#1 [00:01] <Jackson413> aetherian: you there?
#2 [00:02] <aetherian> no sir.
#3 [00:02] <Jackson413> did you read what i said
#4 [00:02] <aetherian> no I did not.
#5 [00:02] <Jackson413> cn u
#6 [00:02] <Jackson413> i just busted myh hand and am tyhpi ng eith one
#7 [00:04] <Jackson413> aetherian: so can you teamview jme?
#8 [00:05] <aetherian> wha
#9 [00:05] <aetherian> uh
#10 [00:05] <Jackson413> can you teamviewer me
#11 [00:05] <Jackson413> and see what is wrong
#12 [00:05] <aetherian> sure, just a minute.
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#14 [00:08] <weet> anyon ehome?
#15 [00:08] <lemon-rev> ?
#16 [00:08] <weet> Anyone know a mod for SMP where I can easily construct a tall, long wall?
#17 [00:08] <Jackson413> worldedit
#18 [00:09] <weet> does it work with Bukkit
#19 [00:09] <aetherian> ._.
#20 [00:09] <Jackson413> its a bukkit plugin
#21 [00:09] <Jackson413> now i suggest
#22 [00:09] <weet> kk thanks <3
#23 [00:09] <Jackson413> that you go fornicate yourself with a long iron pole for not knowing what worldedit is lol
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#25 [00:10] <weet> I haven't played MC in months
#26 [00:10] <weet> got fed up with waiting for updates
#27 [00:10] <Jackson413> :D
#28 [00:10] <aetherian> I haven't played MC in a while
#29 [00:10] <VoxelHead> :)
#30 [00:10] <aetherian> too busy
#31 [00:10] <Jackson413> just a troll
#32 [00:10] <weet> Not even trolling.
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#34 [00:11] <weet> so waddup...
#35 [00:12] <aetherian> the topic.
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#37 [00:12] <weet> whats the topic
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#39 [00:13] <aetherian> up
#40 [00:13] <aetherian> the topic is up
#41 [00:13] <aetherian> it's a joke
#42 [00:13] <aetherian> ._.
#43 [00:14] <aetherian> Jackson413: ready
#44 [00:14] <aetherian> just gimme the info
#45 [00:17] <Jackson413> imma make something to eat
#46 [00:18] <Jackson413> ill leave you alone
#47 [00:18] <Jackson413> dont fuck me too bad :D
#48 [00:18] <aetherian> okay then
#49 [00:18] <aetherian> I'll only format a drive or two :D
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#54 [00:35] <Jackson413> xales: you here man?
#55 [00:35] <aetherian> he isn't
#56 [00:35] <xales> O RLY?
#57 [00:35] <Jackson413> D:
#58 [00:35] <aetherian> he wasn't
#59 [00:35] <Jackson413> xales my minecraft is on its period
#60 [00:35] <xales> Then reinstall it
#61 [00:35] <Jackson413> can you be its tampon?
#62 [00:35] <Jackson413> i did
#63 [00:35] <aetherian> xales: done that
#64 [00:35] <aetherian> and upgraded java
#65 [00:35] <Jackson413> and java
#66 [00:35] <Jackson413> and deleted bin
#67 [00:36] <aetherian> which does the reinstalling...
#68 [00:36] <aetherian> but there're a crapload of things in the .minecraft folder
#69 [00:36] <Jackson413> we need the tampax xales edition :D
#70 [00:36] <Jackson413> wow i am just slaphappy
#71 [00:36] <Jackson413> sorry bout that
#72 [00:36] <Jackson413> would you teamviewer me
#73 [00:36] <Jackson413> and see what the hell is wrong with this
#74 [00:36] <xales> I am incapable of that
#75 [00:36] <xales> At the moment, anyway
#76 [00:37] <xales> It's 12:30
#77 [00:37] <xales> :|
#78 [00:37] <Jackson413> it is 1:30 here
#79 [00:37] <Jackson413> trlololo
#80 [00:37] <Jackson413> Kealper: you here man?
#81 [00:37] <aetherian> he isn't
#82 [00:37] <aetherian> VoxelHead: help Jackson413
#83 [00:37] <Jackson413> well my query of him says he isnt
#84 [00:38] <Jackson413> what will asking a bot do?
#85 [00:38] <Jackson413> Voxel, fire everything at mike rotch
#86 [00:38] * VoxelHead swoops in on mike rotch, decloaking on the way...
#86 [00:38] <VoxelHead> *shoots a little stick with a flag reading 'BANG' on it out from the forward torpedo launchers*
#87 [00:38] <VoxelHead> *recloaks*
#88 [00:38] <Jackson413> :DDDDD
#89 [00:38] <aetherian> vox, courtmartial Jackson413
#90 [00:38] * VoxelHead throws Jackson413 in the brig to await charges
#90 [00:39] <Jackson413> voxel, pardon Jackson413
#91 [00:39] <Jackson413> voxel, fire everything at York_Hunt
#92 [00:39] <VoxelHead> jackson413, you are charged with having sex with the EMH, and existing
#93 [00:39] <VoxelHead> You have been found innocent, have a nice day.
#94 [00:39] * VoxelHead swoops in on York_Hunt, decloaking on the way...
#94 [00:39] <VoxelHead> *lobs General Darian at york_hunt*
#95 [00:39] * VoxelHead recloaks
#95 [00:39] <Jackson413> wwoww
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#99 [00:47] <carll> I keep getting: Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of minutes.
#100 [00:47] <carll> No matter how long i wait, same message.
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#102 [00:49] <sammaelt> how many days it takes for planted sapplings to grow?
#103 [00:49] <sammaelt> as in minecraft days
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#113 [01:29] <xolotl> sammaelt: It varies, though the wiki might have rough estimates
#114 [01:29] <xolotl> sammaelt: The sapling growth counter gets incremented at random intervals; when it reaches the maximum value it turns into a tree
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#121 [02:00] <sammaelt> i tried the wiki with no luck, i've read it takes only a day on a blog and that it makes bigger trees with a 2square deep hole but even after several days it wont grow :/ its still like a little cross taking the place of a single block
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#123 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> sammaelt - It also needs light
#124 [02:02] <sammaelt> its getting full sunlight :/ well i dunno maybe i did something wrong
#125 [02:02] <sammaelt> also on the wiki it says that glass is not a natural block, and is never generated as part of the terrain, but i ve got a lot of natural glass block generated by the game itself in my world
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#127 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not right
#128 [02:04] <sammaelt> there s like hundreds of naturally generated block, several big areas, its always just above water
#129 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure it's glass?
#130 [02:09] <sammaelt> well im only playing since a few days and never crafted glass yet but i really think so
#131 [02:09] <sammaelt> http://i54.tinypic.com/14uc6ea.png
#132 [02:09] <sammaelt> http://i51.tinypic.com/33peo1s.png
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#134 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> That's ice
#135 [02:10] <sammaelt> oh sorry
#136 [02:11] <sammaelt> i feel bad for wasting your time, i'll ponder quietly next time
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#141 [02:37] <xolotl> sammaelt: Sometimes a tree can take a long time to grow
#142 [02:37] <xolotl> It's all down to the random number generator, in the end
#143 [02:38] <xolotl> (well that and having enough space)
#144 [02:38] <xolotl> You can always use bonemeal to speed it up, of course.
#145 [02:38] <lemon-rev> trees should take min 2 days mc days to grow
#146 [02:39] <lemon-rev> unless you keep sleeping on bed
#147 [03:00] <Tris> if you try to bonemeal a tree and it doesnt grow, then it has a space issue
#148 [03:00] <Tris> I was dealing with that eariler until I read that pine requires 10 high, even though regular needs 6
#149 [03:01] <Tris> had to do a bit of digging
#150 [03:06] <relsqui> iirc it's a little more complicated than that
#151 [03:06] <relsqui> when you bonemeal a tree it generates a random tree and then checks if it fits in that space
#152 [03:06] <relsqui> so it's possible for bonemeal not to work the first time, but it will the second or third time
#153 [03:06] <relsqui> if it's got a medium-sized space that would fit some trees but not others
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#158 [03:36] <PlopDS> hi
#159 [03:36] <xales> Hello
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#161 [03:44] <sammaelt> by space issue you mean the blocks around or the blocks right under?
#162 [03:45] <sammaelt> i think i may have found the problem there was only two blocks of dirt under my trees, then stone
#163 [03:45] <sammaelt> planted sappling i mean
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#176 [04:45] * Wug is officially a modder with an actual working non-trivial mod
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#177 [04:50] <relsqui> Wug: grats! what is it?
#178 [04:50] <Wug> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=321525&p=4444254#p4444254
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#180 [04:55] <Wug> ag_scott, are you actually there?
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#184 [05:23] <Needbuilders> Hi
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#187 [05:34] <JustHayden> hey is there a way to check every server you have ever been on?
#188 [05:34] <lemon-rev> what sort of check
#189 [05:34] <JustHayden> like every server you have ever been or or top 50 most recent
#190 [05:35] <lemon-rev> not yet, maybe in a newer version to come out
#191 [05:35] <JustHayden> fuk there was a server i was on last week but i forgot what it was called and didnt save it anywhere
#192 [05:36] <JustHayden> there should be some sorta database somewhere that logs the ip's you've entered...
#193 [05:37] <lemon-rev> no,
#194 [05:37] <lemon-rev> if your not whitelisted on the server you should be able to join it again but you have to know it :)
#195 [05:41] <relsqui> JustHayden: how did you find it the first time?
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#202 [06:21] <Vhozard> !check 83.84.129.134
#203 [06:21] <Vhozard> :D
#204 [06:21] <Vhozard> thanks
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#206 [06:22] <g> oh shit
#207 [06:22] <g> http://www.limera1n.cc/2011/04/psn-database-22-million-credit-cards.html
#208 [06:22] <g> "we know that database containing around 2.2 million sets of credit card details and they are up to sale to the highest bidder, this really horrible."
#209 [06:23] <g> "these details actually include the CCV security code that until now was believed to be safe"
#210 [06:25] <Tris> grats PSN
#211 [06:25] <g> Time to cancel the card..
#212 [06:26] <Tris> brother went to the bank today and closed account/reopened a new one
#213 [06:26] <Tris> might be time to do the same :o
#214 [06:26] <g> makes sense
#215 [06:26] <g> I'll brb anyway
#216 [06:28] <g> Well that's that one sorted out
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#218 [06:39] <Smil3> Hello
#219 [06:39] <Tanjoodo> olleH
#220 [06:41] <Smil3> !check 192.168.0.122
#221 [06:41] <Smil3> !check 91.100.47.163
#222 [06:42] <Smil3> Ty AuBot
#223 [06:43] * mib_jzhun4 [mib_jzhun4@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#224 [06:44] <mib_jzhun4> yooo
#225 [06:44] <mib_jzhun4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY3v3ReWnuE
#226 [06:44] <mib_jzhun4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY3v3ReWnuE
#227 [06:44] <mib_jzhun4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY3v3ReWnuE
#228 [06:44] <Kealper> stop spamming
#229 [06:44] * mib_jir66v [mib_jir66v@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#230 [06:44] <mib_jir66v> Hey!
#231 [06:44] <mib_jzhun4> sup
#232 [06:44] <Kealper> AuBot: title to that link please
#233 [06:45] <mib_jir66v> Im trying to install DYMAP
#234 [06:45] <Kealper> AuBot: gimme the dang link title >.>
#235 [06:45] <Kealper> stupid useless bot
#236 [06:45] <mib_jir66v> But i'm kinda in trouble
#237 [06:45] <mib_jzhun4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY3v3ReWnuE
#238 [06:45] <Kealper> dymap?
#239 [06:45] <mib_jir66v> Yep
#240 [06:45] <mib_jir66v> Dynmap
#241 [06:45] <mib_jir66v> sry
#242 [06:45] <Kealper> mib_jzhun4: spam that link once more and i'm kickbanning you
#243 [06:45] <mib_jzhun4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY3v3ReWnuE
#244 [06:45] <mib_jzhun4> :D
#245 [06:46] <mib_jzhun4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY3v3ReWnuE
#246 [06:46] <mib_jzhun4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY3v3ReWnuE
#247 [06:46] <mib_jzhun4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY3v3ReWnuE
#248 [06:46] <Kealper> mccheat....
#249 [06:46] * Kealper kicked mib_jzhun4 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mib_jzhun4)
#250 [06:46] <Smil3> lol
#251 [06:46] * VoxelHead kicked mib_jir66v from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned)
#252 [06:46] <Kealper> damnit
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#254 [06:47] <g> ~title
#255 [06:47] <McPlusPlus> "YouTube - MCCHEAT 3.4 alpha [DOWNLOAD]" (http://is.gd/aeAeAB)
#256 [06:47] <g> Bah
#257 [06:47] <Smil3> lol
#258 [06:48] <g> Everyone flag it as fraud :P
#259 [06:48] * Aska990 [Aska990@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#260 [06:49] <g> wait
#261 [06:49] <g> Everyone DO flag it as fraud
#262 [06:49] <g> :P
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#264 [06:50] * Kealper already flagged it
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#265 [06:54] * Kealper is also not in the mood to remove that ban on mibbit's default name
#265 [06:56] * g agrees
#265 [06:56] <g> although
#266 [06:56] <g> I'd set it +q
#267 [06:56] <g> not +b
#268 [06:57] * Kealper is completely not in the mood to deal with fucktards right now
#268 [06:57] <g> What are bots for? :P
#269 [06:58] <Kealper> bots can't pick and choose who to ban automatically :/
#270 [07:00] <g> Atually they can
#271 [07:00] <g> actually*
#272 [07:00] <g> You just need to write a really smart algorythm
#273 [07:00] <Kealper> let me rephrase: the half-ass ones in here can't ._.
#274 [07:01] <lemon-rev> kealper you write the code to be smart half the people would be kicked lol
#275 [07:01] <Kealper> lol
#276 [07:01] <g> :P
#277 [07:02] <g> <urlopen error [Errno 110] Connection timed out>
#278 [07:02] * g pokes minecraft.net
#278 [07:02] <g> !isdown minecraft.net
#279 [07:02] <GreyBot> g: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#280 [07:02] <g> hm
#281 [07:03] * g slaps his-VPS around a bit with a large trout.
#281 [07:03] <Kealper> lol
#282 [07:03] <g> It's just timing out
#283 [07:03] <g> that's no good
#284 [07:03] <g> I need my bridge to work :P
#285 [07:04] <g> urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 110] Connection timed out>
#286 [07:04] * g scratches his head
#286 [07:05] <Kealper> O.o
#287 [07:05] <g> I'll try it locally
#288 [07:06] * g waits for python to byte-compile everything
#288 [07:06] <g> Nope, that times out to
#289 [07:06] <g> too*
#290 [07:06] <Kealper> byte-compile?
#291 [07:06] <g> yeah
#292 [07:06] <Kealper> python can compile to bytecode?
#293 [07:06] <g> it compiles everything to bytecode automatically
#294 [07:06] <Kealper> oh, less cool than i thought
#295 [07:06] <g> albeit, python-bytecode
#296 [07:07] <Kealper> i thought you meant like compile to bytecode executable lol
#297 [07:07] <g> lol no
#298 [07:07] <g> urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 10060] A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond>
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#300 [07:07] <g> hm.
#301 [07:08] <g> Did all of that send?
#302 [07:08] <Kealper> are you sure you're doing the code right? because mc.net works for me
#303 [07:08] <Kealper> and yeah, it all sent
#304 [07:08] <g> hm
#305 [07:09] <g> server has a new hash
#306 [07:09] <g> I'll try it now
#307 [07:09] <g> okay, it /seems/ to be working
#308 [07:09] <g> but I don't see it..
#309 [07:10] <g> It connected to a netxlpit server
#310 [07:10] <Kealper> lol
#311 [07:10] <g> netsplit*
#312 [07:10] * g tries aperture
#312 [07:10] * g waits for the bot to connect
#312 [07:11] <Kealper> what server did it try connecting to? i think all the leaf servers are working right
#313 [07:11] <g> lol, no no on
#314 [07:11] <g> no no on*
#315 [07:11] <g> it's a bridge with Classic
#316 [07:11] <g> no no no* fuck
#317 [07:11] <Kealper> lol
#318 [07:11] <g> IRC didn't conect at all
#319 [07:12] <g> okay
#320 [07:12] <g> it says it connected
#321 [07:12] <g> I just don't see
#322 [07:12] <g> it*
#323 [07:12] <g> gBot2002 on @#hollow_hils
#324 [07:12] <g> it should not have op!
#325 [07:12] <Kealper> o.o
#326 [07:12] <g> oh
#327 [07:12] <g> hils
#328 [07:12] <g> derp
#329 [07:13] <g> not the first time I typoe'd hills
#330 [07:13] <g> :P
#331 [07:13] <g> there, now it works
#332 [07:13] <g> :D
#333 [07:14] <Kealper> XD
#334 [07:14] <g> Do yuo have a classic server, Kealper?
#335 [07:14] <g> you*
#336 [07:14] <Kealper> no, i stopped running one of those ages ago
#337 [07:14] <g> brb dog's howling
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#340 [07:17] <Hieu> Any Supporters there ?
#341 [07:17] <Kealper> supporters of?
#342 [07:17] <Hieu> Minecraft
#343 [07:17] <Kealper> oh, yes lol
#344 [07:18] <Hieu> my E-mail seems to be invalid cause i tipped a , instead of .
#345 [07:18] <Hieu> what should i do ?
#346 [07:18] <Kealper> hmm...
#347 [07:19] <Kealper> email support@mojang.com and tell them your account username and give them proof that you paid for the account (a paypal transaction ID works), and tell them in the email what is wrong and they can fix it
#348 [07:19] <Hieu> k thx ^^
#349 [07:20] * Kealper goes afk for a bit
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#351 [07:28] <g> Kealper: Wow, that video is down already
#352 [07:44] <Kealper> ok back
#353 [07:44] <Kealper> and wow lol
#354 [07:45] <g> lol
#355 [07:45] * Kealper may have thrown that video link into the super top-secret channel who's name shall not be typed
#355 [07:46] <g> lol
#356 [07:46] <g> you could copypaste it :P
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#358 [07:47] <Kealper> i could, but then that would defeat the "top-secret" part if everyone knew about it lol
#359 [07:47] <g> Nah :P
#360 [07:47] <Kealper> although other people in said channel have been retarded and said it's name in here before
#361 [07:47] * Kealper looks at grey
#361 [07:47] <g> lol
#362 [07:47] * g opens logs
#362 [07:48] <Kealper> not sure if you'll find it...grey says a ton of channels per day lol
#363 [07:48] <Kealper> and it's not named something that will stand out from the crowd :P
#364 [07:48] <g> I only have four or five lol
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#366 [07:49] <Kealper> and on the off-chance that you do think you found it, don't say it in the channel, it would be unfortunate if it happened to be correct (which i have my doubts on)
#367 [07:50] <g> :P
#368 [07:50] <g> 'kay
#369 [07:50] <g> I'd need some kind of advanced regex anyway
#370 [07:50] <g> and I suck at regex :P
#371 [07:52] <Kealper> advanced regex would not be needed if you were using AutoIt :P
#372 [07:52] <Kealper> actually....
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#374 [07:52] * Kealper downloads #minecrafthelp's logs and sees how quickly he can find where grey said the channel
#374 [07:52] <g> lol
#375 [07:52] <g> well I could do it in python without regex
#376 [07:53] <g> but I can't be fucked :P
#377 [07:53] <Kealper> lol
#378 [07:53] <g> Dude, you should learn C++
#379 [07:53] <g> :P
#380 [07:53] <Kealper> the channel is invite-only anyways, so even if someone did find it's name, they couldn't join :/
#381 [07:53] <g> Then you can help us :D
#382 [07:53] <g> lol
#383 [07:53] <g> Why so secretive :P
#384 [07:54] <Kealper> because it deals with official crap :o
#385 [07:54] <g> lol
#386 [07:54] <g> so?
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#388 [07:54] * Kealper won't say official to what though
#388 [07:54] <g> :P
#389 [07:54] <g> anon?
#390 [07:55] <Kealper> nothing illegal
#391 [07:55] <g> Anon is hardly illegal
#392 [07:55] <g> or rather, it shouldn't be
#393 [07:55] <Kealper> ^
#394 [07:57] <g> Now then
#395 [07:57] <g> In my URL tools, I think I'm going to include..
#396 [07:57] <g> is.gd shortening and lookups,
#397 [07:57] <g> page titles
#398 [07:57] <g> web of trust ratings
#399 [07:58] <Kealper> O.o
#400 [07:58] <g> If it has an API, I can use it
#401 [07:58] <g> and it does :P
#402 [07:58] <g> ingb4commitmessage
#403 [07:58] <g> inb4*
#404 [07:58] * Kealper waits
#404 [07:58] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [16]: Beginning URL tools (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/vJJBTJ
#405 [07:58] <g> :P
#406 [07:59] * Kealper was not disappoint
#406 [07:59] <g> The link is the changeset for the commit
#407 [07:59] <g> I wish I had a build server lol
#408 [07:59] <g> but I don't
#409 [07:59] <g> so
#410 [07:59] <Kealper> lol
#411 [07:59] <g> :P
#412 [08:00] <g> Jenkins is a build server
#413 [08:00] <g> but it's made for Java
#414 [08:00] <g> :P
#415 [08:00] <g> (And it's written in Java so screw that)
#416 [08:00] <AG_Scott> Bamboo ftw
#417 [08:01] <g> I was wondering about bamboo
#418 [08:01] <g> is it heavy though?
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#420 [08:01] <AG_Scott> Not really.
#421 [08:01] <AG_Scott> We run the entire Atlassian suite.
#422 [08:01] * g looks into it
#422 [08:02] <g> It's not free though
#423 [08:02] <g> and I have no monies :P
#424 [08:02] <AG_Scott> We got unlimited everything for free :>
#425 [08:03] <g> You're allgamers, you get these nice things :P
#426 [08:03] <g> oh
#427 [08:03] <g> I can get an open source license for free
#428 [08:03] <g> yay
#429 [08:03] <AG_Scott> yeah, that's what we have lol
#430 [08:03] <AG_Scott> One of the AG community projects etc.
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#432 [08:04] * Kealper yawns
#432 [08:04] <AG_Scott> If you're incredibly lazy, get this: http://www.atlassian.com/hosted/studio/
#433 [08:04] <g> this could be very good for kickstarting mcplusplus.net
#434 [08:05] <g> I can actually get that with an open source license? :P
#435 [08:05] <AG_Scott> Apparently.
#436 [08:05] <g> I'd rather host it myself
#437 [08:05] <g> though
#438 [08:05] <AG_Scott> More work.
#439 [08:05] <g> I suppose
#440 [08:06] <AG_Scott> Paypal pisses me off every morning at 7~ AM.
#441 [08:06] <AG_Scott> They process payments then and my phone never stops beeping :(
#442 [08:06] <Morrolan> Disable notifications?
#443 [08:06] <g> lol
#444 [08:06] <AG_Scott> Never.
#445 [08:06] * AG_Scott cuddles his blackberry.
#445 [08:06] <Morrolan> Actually, come to think of it, there are worse things making your handy beep than incoming payments. :D
#446 [08:07] <g> To complete your trial signup, we require your billing information, including credit card. You will not be charged until one month after signup.
#447 [08:07] <g> Nergh
#448 [08:07] <AG_Scott> NMS never fails to annoy me too.
#449 [08:07] <_303> Morrolan: handy = german, it's called cell phone/mobile phone etc in english
#450 [08:07] <Morrolan> 303: Oh right, shit.
#451 [08:07] <Morrolan> Actually I should know it, but I always stumble across that mistake.
#452 [08:08] <g> AG_Scott: Does this h ave its own web server?
#453 [08:08] <g> have*
#454 [08:08] <g> bamboo, that is
#455 [08:08] <AG_Scott> I believe so. We proxy it via nginx though.
#456 [08:08] <AG_Scott> It just runs on tomcat etc i think
#457 [08:08] <g> hmm
#458 [08:08] <Kealper> Morrolan: i still got what you meant by handy :P
#459 [08:08] <g> 'kay
#460 [08:08] <Morrolan> Kealper: Hehe, thanks. :D
#461 [08:08] <AG_Scott> I assumed you meant cell phone.
#462 [08:08] <Morrolan> Yep
#463 [08:09] <g> lololol 92mv in 10s
#464 [08:09] <g> mb*
#465 [08:09] <g> bamboo.sh
#466 [08:09] <g> yay
#467 [08:11] <Smil3> !check 192.168.0.122
#468 [08:11] <Smil3> !check 91.100.47.163
#469 [08:12] <AG_Scott> Kealper, didnt completely fix that :(
#470 [08:12] <Kealper> i went and fixed that weird case with certain IPs
#471 [08:13] <AG_Scott> Pretty sure it doesn't follow RFC completely :(
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#473 [08:13] <Kealper> not at all lol
#474 [08:13] <AG_Scott> !check 172.25.242.134
#475 [08:13] <AG_Scott> see
#476 [08:14] <Kealper> it's just looking at 172.16, i couldn't figure out how to make it match 16-31
#477 [08:14] <AG_Scott> Use proper CIDR? :D
#478 [08:14] <Kealper> bah
#479 [08:14] * Kealper is trying to keep that check for internal IPs down to one line of regex
#479 [08:15] <AG_Scott> It lacks ipv6, yes?
#480 [08:15] <Kealper> indeed
#481 [08:15] <AG_Scott> :/
#482 [08:15] <Kealper> but it doesn't really matter, since MC lacks v6, too
#483 [08:15] <AG_Scott> does it?
#484 [08:15] <Kealper> it does
#485 [08:15] <AG_Scott> bleh
#486 [08:15] <Kealper> it tries to resolve v6 addresses into a name
#487 [08:16] <g> "Please wait while Bamboo sets up your instance."
#488 [08:16] <g> :D
#489 [08:16] <AG_Scott> They better fix that. :/
#490 [08:16] <Kealper> yeah, to atleast say that it's a v6 address and it doesn't support it lol
#491 [08:16] <AG_Scott> I guess I'm going back to sleep.
#492 [08:16] * Kealper waves _o/
#492 [08:16] <AG_Scott> Stupid NMS woke me up
#493 [08:16] <Kealper> lol
#494 [08:16] <g> lol
#495 [08:16] <AG_Scott> "Hey! I'm a retarded server and I'm going to reboot for no reason and act like nothing happen! :D!"
#496 [08:17] <Kealper> XD
#497 [08:17] <g> lol
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#500 [08:21] <AG_Scott> afk
#501 [08:21] * Kealper waves _o/
#501 [08:25] * oldtopmanserver rawrs
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#502 [08:36] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [18]: Attempt to fix build script (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/oRaeST
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#505 [08:42] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [19]: Another attempt to fix the build script (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/G9rv0t
#506 [08:42] <g> It can't process the .pro file
#507 [08:42] <g> hm
#508 [08:43] <g> qmake
#509 [08:43] <g> wups
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#513 [08:49] <VGFreak97> hi
#514 [08:50] <g> N: Why did you just TIME me?
#515 [08:51] <N> g: That was like, an hour ago
#516 [08:51] <g> so?
#517 [08:51] <g> :P
#518 [08:52] * N stalks g
#518 [08:52] <g> lol
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#521 [09:01] <m0nk> to minecraft or not to minecraft
#522 [09:01] <skope> that's not a question
#523 [09:01] <m0nk> did i say that?
#524 [09:01] <skope> ofc to minecraft
#525 [09:02] <m0nk> it's atleast 15 or 20 celcius out there and i'm hot
#526 [09:02] <skope> it's like +6 here
#527 [09:02] <skope> last night was -1
#528 [09:04] <Smil3> best website to look for minecraft recipes?
#529 [09:04] <m0nk> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting#Basic_Recipes
#530 [09:04] <sammaelt> about 30celcius here :)
#531 [09:04] <sammaelt> sweet april
#532 [09:04] <skope> this is finland
#533 [09:04] <skope> our summer is cold and short
#534 [09:04] <m0nk> PERKELE
#535 [09:04] <m0nk> hahaha
#536 [09:04] <skope> :D
#537 [09:05] <m0nk> what was the name for grand father of satan?
#538 [09:05] <sammaelt> belzebuth?
#539 [09:05] <m0nk> i saw the dudesons once. and they said what it was called but i fogrgot
#540 [09:06] <skope> hmm
#541 [09:06] <skope> no idea what you mean
#542 [09:07] <m0nk> Perkele = The great grandfather of Satan, also used as a curse word in Finland
#543 [09:07] <m0nk> found it on google
#544 [09:09] <oldtopman> Can anyone hear me?
#545 [09:09] <g> we can hear you
#546 [09:09] <g> Hmm, src/ircsession.cpp:29:28: error: unicode/ucsdet.h: No such file or directory
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#553 [09:17] <excedere> Hey all, trying to get minecraft installed on this computer and it exits with a jvm error (heap size too large)
#554 [09:17] <g> Well, that's a new one
#555 [09:18] <g> Can you poastebin the entire crash log?
#556 [09:18] <g> pastebin*
#557 [09:18] <excedere> if you can tell me where it would have dumped it
#558 [09:18] <g> Wherevr you got that error from
#559 [09:18] <excedere> just a window that pops up when I run minecraft.exe
#560 [09:19] <g> that should be it
#561 [09:19] <excedere> its a dialog box
#562 [09:19] <g> screenshot it
#563 [09:21] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [20]: Trying to fix the build script AGAIN... (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/lZzPAk
#564 [09:22] <excedere> http://excedere.us/error.jpg
#565 [09:22] <excedere> a/v and firewall are off
#566 [09:22] <excedere> windows 7, freshly updated java
#567 [09:23] <g> How much RAM do you have?
#568 [09:23] <excedere> 3gb
#569 [09:24] <g> hrm
#570 [09:24] <g> Kealper: What do you make of this?
#571 [09:24] <g> excedere: You're not running anything that eats ram are you?
#572 [09:24] <excedere> lemme check
#573 [09:25] <excedere> firefox is sucking up a mighty ~95MB, but overall windows reports 44% usage.. too much you think?
#574 [09:25] <g> hm
#575 [09:25] <g> You need around 1.5GB free
#576 [09:25] <g> for MC to run smoothly
#577 [09:26] <g> It automatically allocates 1G
#578 [09:26] <g> but.. you have more than that
#579 [09:26] <g> hm
#580 [09:26] <g> try the launcher .jar
#581 [09:29] <excedere> seems to be working
#582 [09:29] <g> Blargh, bamboo is much harder to use than I thought it would be
#583 [09:29] <g> http://i.imgur.com/lB8QM.png
#584 [09:29] <g> lo
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#586 [09:29] <g> Alright, excedere
#587 [09:29] * Kealper reads
#587 [09:29] <g> Kealper: I think he's got it :P
#588 [09:30] <oldtopman> I need some help.
#589 [09:31] <oldtopman> My server got glitched and I;m in a ceve not to far off from my mineshaft
#590 [09:31] <oldtopman> Does anyone here have xraymod that can help me with this?
#591 [09:32] * Kealper doesn't
#591 [09:32] <Kealper> i can help you in a few sec though, by seeing where your name is lol
#592 [09:33] <oldtopman> My mineshaft is 1100m long
#593 [09:34] <Kealper> oh...oh dang...you're on your own on that one :P
#594 [09:38] <g> grr
#595 [09:38] <g> /home/bamboo/xml-data/build-dir/SUPPORTIRCBOT-SUPPORTIRCBOT-JOB1/trunk/build.sh: 1: Syntax error: redirection unexpected
#596 [09:38] <g> but, what?
#597 [09:38] <g> http://i.imgur.com/quMd8.png
#598 [09:39] * g is confused
#598 [09:39] <g> huh
#599 [09:39] <g> it modified it
#600 [09:39] <g> http://i.imgur.com/I9X7a.png
#601 [09:40] <TeamFluff> I just got a new Alienware laptop and Minecraft runs like crap on it. Meanwhile, my desktop (which isn't nearly as powerful as this new laptop) can run Minecraft without any problems on Fancy/Far. Any suggestions on how to whip my laptop into shape?
#602 [09:40] <g> workign directory
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#604 [09:41] <g> TeamFluff: Just because it's alienware doesn't mean it's good
#605 [09:41] <g> specs?
#606 [09:41] <g> have you installed drivers?
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#608 [09:41] <m0nk> do you really have to check 867 blocks on lvl 18 to have 50% chance of finding diamond?
#609 [09:42] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [21]: Guess. (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/7UYkRG
#610 [09:42] <g> Argh
#611 [09:42] <TeamFluff> i7 2.3 Ghz quad, 16 GB RAM, Win7 x64. My drivers are up to date and I've installed Java x64.
#612 [09:42] <g> Kealper: I'm gonna start screaming soon xD
#613 [09:42] <g> http://pastebin.com/BV5nx6sr
#614 [09:42] <g> TeamFluff: Alienware is dell,
#615 [09:43] <g> and dells often come with the preinstall messed up
#616 [09:43] <skope> nice error list
#617 [09:43] <g> so I advise you reinstall first
#618 [09:43] <TeamFluff> Fair enough, but I repartitioned and reinstalled the first day I had it.
#619 [09:43] <g> skope: That error list is annoying the hell out of me
#620 [09:43] <g> TeamFluff: hmm
#621 [09:43] <skope> i bet it is
#622 [09:43] <g> skope: It shouldn't exist at all
#623 [09:43] <g> the code is perfectly correct
#624 [09:43] <g> :/
#625 [09:43] <skope> :D
#626 [09:44] <skope> i say that too often
#627 [09:44] <g> hm
#628 [09:44] * g checks his .profile entry
#628 [09:44] <TeamFluff> Of course, other games run perfectly fine. It's just Minecraft that runs like balls. I get between 5 and 10 fps.
#629 [09:44] <g> TeamFluff: Honestly, I'm not sure
#630 [09:44] <g> I have similar specs to you and it runs fine
#631 [09:44] <g> but
#632 [09:44] <g> what's the gfx card like?
#633 [09:45] <TeamFluff> nVidia 460M 1.5GB
#634 [09:45] <skope> TeamFluff: does that do it in single player too?
#635 [09:45] <g> TeamFluff: GeForce or what?
#636 [09:45] <TeamFluff> Ha, I haven't played single player in forever. I'll test it.
#637 [09:45] <TeamFluff> GeForce GTX
#638 [09:45] <g> Hm, I'm getting there..
#639 [09:45] <g> http://pastebin.com/eKcbMtVb
#640 [09:47] <m0nk> AAAAAAAAAAAH JALAPENO. IT BUUUURNS
#641 [09:47] * g slaps m0nk around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout.
#641 [09:47] <m0nk> WATER
#642 [09:47] <m0nk> geeshus
#643 [09:47] <sammaelt> i run it fair enough decently without lag with an integrated chipset only (gforce 6150 se it sucks), using normal render distance graphic fast limit framerate off
#644 [09:48] <sammaelt> but it eats 1gb-1,5gb of ram alone out of 4gb
#645 [09:48] <sammaelt> although i only get 30-50 fps
#646 [09:48] <m0nk> i get 200
#647 [09:48] <m0nk> +
#648 [09:48] <TeamFluff> Single player gave me 6 fps.
#649 [09:48] <sammaelt> with a good card some people get 200
#650 [09:48] <sammaelt> yeah
#651 [09:49] <g> I get around 200 too
#652 [09:49] <g> Used to be around 500, then I installed stuff :P
#653 [09:49] <g> http://i.imgur.com/2Yml4.png
#654 [09:50] * g slaps bamboo
#654 [09:50] <g> although the problem is no longer bamboo
#655 [09:50] <m0nk> found le diamond
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#657 [09:51] <m0nk> fell in lava lost all my stuff
#658 [09:51] <g> fail
#659 [09:51] <g> :P
#660 [09:51] <m0nk> didnt pick up the diamond but i lost my diamond pick
#661 [09:53] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [22]: build.sh works now - Just need to fix my build server! (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/L3gB7a
#662 [09:53] <NotiCon> g: what is it going to run on?
#663 [09:54] <g> Nix and windows
#664 [09:54] <skope> let the drinking start
#665 [09:54] <skope> bought some booze
#666 [09:55] <m0nk> what is the multiplayer / for tp to spawn point. smp
#667 [09:57] <oldtopmanserver> m0nk :/kill
#668 [09:57] <oldtopmanserver> m0nk: /kill
#669 [09:58] <m0nk> i dont get it. i moved the spawn point in mcedit. i didnt build anywhere near my spawn point so i have to walk a mile or 2 to get there. and i have no fucking clue where it is
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#672 [10:02] <g> where's AG_Scott when you need him? :P
#673 [10:02] <g> m0nk: Make a compass
#674 [10:03] <NotiCon> hiding
#675 [10:03] <g> Lol I could really use his help about now :P
#676 [10:04] <m0nk> why would i make a compass when my house isnt even near the spawn point?
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#678 [10:05] <g> Because you wanted to know how to get to the spawn point.
#679 [10:05] <m0nk> since i moved the spawn point in mcedit. but i spawn somewhere completely different then that
#680 [10:05] <g> Generally
#681 [10:05] <g> you don't move the spawn in mcedit
#682 [10:06] <g> you sleep in a bed instead
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#685 [10:18] <oldtopman> Does anyone in here have xraymod and can help me?
#686 [10:19] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [23]: Changing to LGPL (Forgot about Qt's license) (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/0G5WLn
#687 [10:19] <g> No mod support here
#688 [10:19] <g> try #risucraft or #mcmods
#689 [10:19] <oldtopman> I got lost though.
#690 [10:19] <oldtopman> And my cave is about 50 away from me :(
#691 [10:19] <oldtopman> But, I am sure I can find it eventually.
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#693 [10:24] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [24]: Trying to fix include bugs on the build server (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/zyWTuw
#694 [10:25] <skope> why so silent
#695 [10:26] <skope> booze and some wc ice hockey
#696 [10:26] <skope> perfect
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#701 [10:34] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [25]: Fixed build.sh for the last time. (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/NTqWXW
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#705 [10:39] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [26]: Fixing build directories (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/KOSs6O
#706 [10:44] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [27]: Line endings! (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/WslsB9
#707 [10:46] <g> WOOOOOOT
#708 [10:46] <g> It works!
#709 [10:46] <g> http://irc.pearsoncoles.com:8085/browse/SUPPORTIRCBOT-SUPPORTIRCBOT-45
#710 [10:46] <g> On the 45th build, we have liftoff
#711 [10:46] <g> :D
#712 [10:48] <NotiCon> great o:
#713 [10:49] <g> hm, wait
#714 [10:49] <g> it doesn't work
#715 [10:49] <g> lol
#716 [10:49] <NotiCon> aww
#717 [10:50] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [28]: Finally, setting build directory in the project file. (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/E6lcgC
#718 [10:50] <g> http://i.imgur.com/VYmyU.png
#719 [10:51] <g> ok
#720 [10:51] <g> Now it works
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#722 [10:51] <g> http://irc.pearsoncoles.com:8085/browse/SUPPORTIRCBOT-SUPPORTIRCBOT/
#723 [10:51] <g> :P
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#725 [10:53] <SC2FR|DarkO> I'm trying to buy minecraft but i get an error '118033820' could you help me ? pm me if u can.
#726 [10:54] <g> SC2FR|DarkOL Nobody's going to pm you
#727 [10:54] <g> but
#728 [10:54] <g> explain more about this error please
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#730 [10:54] <SC2FR|DarkO> Thats an error when i'm trying to buy the game. i get an authentication error & this eror code.
#731 [10:55] <g> Where exactly do you get it?
#732 [10:55] <SC2FR|DarkO> After the payment process
#733 [10:55] <g> Which provider?
#734 [10:55] <g> Paypal or the other one?
#735 [10:55] <SC2FR|DarkO> The other one
#736 [10:55] <g> hm
#737 [10:55] <g> Anything in your email?
#738 [10:56] <SC2FR|DarkO> no nothing
#739 [10:56] <g> hmm
#740 [10:56] <g> Email payments@mojang.com for help
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#742 [10:56] <SC2FR|DarkO> and i don't know if that pay the 15euros or not
#743 [10:56] <g> Provide them with as much detail as possible with your request
#744 [10:57] <Morrolan> If possible use Paypal, there are quite a few people who have issues with the other provider I think.
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#747 [11:02] <g> Alright
#748 [11:03] <g> I submitted my request for an open source license
#749 [11:03] <skope> for the bot?
#750 [11:03] <g> For bamboo
#751 [11:03] <g> http://i.imgur.com/ifsfc.png
#752 [11:04] <skope> oh ok
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#754 [11:05] <optik584> hi
#755 [11:05] <optik584> may somebody help me?
#756 [11:05] <skope> ask the question
#757 [11:05] <skope> someone will
#758 [11:06] <optik584> i havent a credit card and don´t know how to get the game! i only have a "giro konto".
#759 [11:06] <optik584> so how do i get the game?
#760 [11:07] <g> Germany?
#761 [11:07] <optik584> yes
#762 [11:07] <g> One second
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#764 [11:08] <optik584> k
#765 [11:08] <g> So, that's like, uh
#766 [11:08] <g> a laser card?
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#768 [11:08] <optik584> ?
#769 [11:09] <g> this girokonto
#770 [11:09] <optik584> yeea?
#771 [11:09] <g> what.. is it? :p
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#773 [11:09] <Morrolan> Optik: You can create a paypal account and send money to it from your bank account.
#774 [11:09] <skope> g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giro
#775 [11:09] <g> oh right
#776 [11:09] <thiefys> Hello
#777 [11:09] <Morrolan> Hey thiefys
#778 [11:09] <g> Yeah, you need a paypal account, optik584
#779 [11:09] <thiefys> i created a new server and i want to advertise it, where is a good place to find people?
#780 [11:10] <Morrolan> ?? smp/servers
#781 [11:10] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#782 [11:10] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#783 [11:10] <Morrolan> One of these lists or the #smp channel.
#784 [11:10] <thiefys> aaaah gthank you !
#785 [11:10] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
#786 [11:10] <optik584> so if i go to the bank i can open a paypal account?
#787 [11:10] <g> No
#788 [11:10] <SPaRT> optik584: geht nur mit paypal oder kreditkarte... mit deinem girokonto kannst du nen paypal account anlegen
#789 [11:10] <g> go to paypal.com
#790 [11:10] <skope> online
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#792 [11:11] <optik584> okay
#793 [11:11] <SPaRT> optik584 => pm
#794 [11:11] <optik584> und wo?? syr ich habe von sowas einfach garkeine ahungn
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#797 [11:12] <Morrolan> Your best bet is to ask your parents to buy it for you I guess, easier and faster.
#798 [11:12] <skope> yeah
#799 [11:12] <skope> international bank transfer takes like three days
#800 [11:12] <optik584> okay thank yo for your help :)
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#802 [11:14] <thiefys> wow i have joined the SMP channel but only 95 idle people are there!
#803 [11:14] <Morrolan> That's a rather big channel. ;)
#804 [11:15] <thiefys> strange that all of them are idle
#805 [11:15] <Morrolan> Oh, that's rather normal for IRC.
#806 [11:15] <g> :P
#807 [11:15] <Morrolan> Take a look at this channel for instance. :D
#808 [11:15] <thiefys> oh
#809 [11:15] <thiefys> This many people chat
#810 [11:15] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [29]: Fixing artifacts (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/bXZxAJ
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#812 [11:15] <Morrolan> But yea, your best bet is to add your server to these serverslists I guess.
#813 [11:16] <thiefys> i added my server in minestatus.net and i also got lots of votes but i dont get new people
#814 [11:16] <Morrolan> Hmm. :/
#815 [11:16] <Morrolan> The problem is that there are actually far too many servers around.
#816 [11:16] <thiefys> yes but at least some servers have at least 10-20 people
#817 [11:16] <thiefys> for now i dont need many
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#819 [11:16] <thiefys> and i want some moderators as well
#820 [11:17] <Morrolan> Yep, and many have 1-2. :/
#821 [11:17] <Morrolan> players*
#822 [11:17] <thiefys> oh
#823 [11:17] <thiefys> hmmm
#824 [11:18] <thiefys> i paid lots of money for 1 year hosting of this VPS xen server
#825 [11:18] <thiefys> and in the end will be useless :(
#826 [11:18] <skope> hehe
#827 [11:19] <skope> use irc from there and share shells to your friends
#828 [11:19] <Morrolan> Your best bet is to get some friends who play Minecraft I guess.
#829 [11:19] <skope> and get some payments back
#830 [11:19] <skope> that's what i do
#831 [11:19] <thiefys> \what do you mean get payments back
#832 [11:19] <Morrolan> Or you could advise it on forums.
#833 [11:19] <SC2FR|DarkO> You can make vip status
#834 [11:19] <skope> thiefys: get some money from ircshells
#835 [11:19] <skope> from your friends
#836 [11:20] <thiefys> hmmm no idea what is IRCshells
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#838 [11:20] <skope> or website hosting
#839 [11:20] <thiefys> last time i used IRC was 10 years ago
#840 [11:20] <skope> well then nevermind :)
#841 [11:20] <SC2FR|DarkO> or selling seedbox :o
#842 [11:20] <thiefys> wow you guys talk about things i never heard of
#843 [11:20] <skope> SC2FR|DarkO: well depends if there's traffic limit and how wide the connection is
#844 [11:20] <SC2FR|DarkO> Yeah
#845 [11:20] <skope> i have 5TB traffic limit per month
#846 [11:20] <SC2FR|DarkO> That ok
#847 [11:21] <skope> and one of my hosted sites takes about 2TB
#848 [11:21] <thiefys> my Server is hosted in 200 MBit link
#849 [11:21] <skope> per month i mean
#850 [11:21] <SC2FR|DarkO> i mean one seedbox take 3-4 tb per month
#851 [11:21] <skope> about
#852 [11:21] <thiefys> what is a seedbox
#853 [11:21] <skope> thiefys: torrent things
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#855 [11:21] <SC2FR|DarkO> ya
#856 [11:21] <SC2FR|DarkO> you can earn money
#857 [11:21] <SC2FR|DarkO> with that
#858 [11:21] <thiefys> aaaah its a server where you put your seeds?
#859 [11:22] <SC2FR|DarkO> and that easy to make
#860 [11:22] <SC2FR|DarkO> ^^
#861 [11:22] <skope> thiefys: correct
#862 [11:22] <thiefys> but seeds arent illegal if people download pirated stuff
#863 [11:22] <skope> they are
#864 [11:22] <skope> but so am i
#865 [11:22] <thiefys> then not good idea for someone to do it and get in jail
#866 [11:22] <SC2FR|DarkO> you can't go in jail for that
#867 [11:22] <SC2FR|DarkO> xD
#868 [11:22] <skope> yeah
#869 [11:22] <SPaRT> jail is cool for who have no sex
#870 [11:22] <g> For pirating?
#871 [11:22] <skope> but i don't encourage anyone to illegal stuff
#872 [11:23] <g> You can go to jail for that
#873 [11:23] <skope> so don't do it
#874 [11:23] <g> but it's unlikely
#875 [11:23] <thiefys> well if you are from US or european then you can get to jaul
#876 [11:23] <skope> g: not in finland
#877 [11:23] <SC2FR|DarkO> ^^
#878 [11:23] <g> skope: Yeah, there's like two countries where it isn't illegal
#879 [11:23] <thiefys> aah ok
#880 [11:23] <skope> g: it is illegal here too, but you just get damn big ticket from it
#881 [11:24] <Morrolan> Thiefys: Or just ask your server hoster for a refund I guess.
#882 [11:24] <g> And what happens if you don't pay that, skope?
#883 [11:24] <g> You go to jail :P
#884 [11:24] <skope> nope
#885 [11:24] <skope> if you don't have any income, you don't have to pay anything
#886 [11:24] <thiefys> best way to do it i guess is to host servers in Ukraine russia etc
#887 [11:24] <skope> but rest of the life is ruined although
#888 [11:24] <g> Wait
#889 [11:25] <g> why are we discussing piracy?
#890 [11:25] <g> It's against the IRC server's ToS
#891 [11:25] <SC2FR|DarkO> xD
#892 [11:25] <thiefys> oops
#893 [11:25] <SC2FR|DarkO> Anywayz
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#895 [11:25] <skope> okay
#896 [11:25] <SC2FR|DarkO> Seedbox arnt illegal
#897 [11:25] <SC2FR|DarkO> if you share legal files
#898 [11:25] <SC2FR|DarkO> ^^
#899 [11:25] <g> Well yeah
#900 [11:25] <g> obviously
#901 [11:25] <thiefys> and what is an ircshell
#902 [11:25] <g> He means
#903 [11:25] <g> selling bouncer accounts
#904 [11:25] <SC2FR|DarkO> ya
#905 [11:25] <g> or console accounts
#906 [11:25] <skope> bouncers sucks :P
#907 [11:26] <SC2FR|DarkO> console accounts
#908 [11:26] <SC2FR|DarkO> :)
#909 [11:26] <skope> haven't ever got why people use them
#910 [11:26] <thiefys> and what is an ircshell
#911 [11:26] <skope> irssi+screen is so much better
#912 [11:26] <g> skope: I use them
#913 [11:26] <g> irssi and screen, lol
#914 [11:26] <skope> why not?
#915 [11:26] <Morrolan> Skope: Or, you know, just SHUT DOWN your client from time to time? :D
#916 [11:26] <g> That's good for people who can't be bothered to set one up
#917 [11:26] <g> but
#918 [11:26] <g> If you're like me,
#919 [11:26] <skope> set what up?
#920 [11:26] <g> you like to use a native client
#921 [11:26] <g> a bouncer derp
#922 [11:27] <skope> i hate all fancypancy graphical clients
#923 [11:27] <skope> so i just download ssh client
#924 [11:27] <g> And you can't use SSH everywhere
#925 [11:27] <skope> why i can't?
#926 [11:27] <SC2FR|DarkO> anywayz
#927 [11:27] <g> particularly through firewalls
#928 [11:27] <g> :P
#929 [11:27] <SC2FR|DarkO> SSH
#930 [11:27] <skope> opened port 443 from my server
#931 [11:27] <SC2FR|DarkO> works will all server
#932 [11:27] <skope> works about anywhere
#933 [11:27] <g> Not talking about server firewalls
#934 [11:27] <skope> if not, i have my mobile internet with me always
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#936 [11:28] <skope> g: me neither, but for example schools have blocked port 22, but 443 is almost always open
#937 [11:28] <skope> because of https
#938 [11:28] <g> 443 is blocked here
#939 [11:28] <skope> okay
#940 [11:28] <g> unless for certain hosts
#941 [11:28] <g> the only way to use irc, is, shock horror, mibbit
#942 [11:28] <skope> well, phone+mobile internet <3
#943 [11:28] <skope> works like a charm
#944 [11:28] <g> I use my iPad
#945 [11:28] <g> so
#946 [11:29] <g> colloquy and 3G
#947 [11:29] <skope> how's ipads virtual kb?
#948 [11:29] <skope> haven't tried it
#949 [11:29] <g> It's very good
#950 [11:29] <g> Sure beats the iPhoneone
#951 [11:29] <g> iPhone one*
#952 [11:29] <skope> okay
#953 [11:29] <skope> i'm not the fan of apples work, but i'm still curious
#954 [11:29] <skope> haven't ever owned any apple product
#955 [11:29] <g> I'm not either
#956 [11:29] <g> but I will say
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#958 [11:30] <g> my iPad is probably the most useful device I've bought
#959 [11:30] <skope> i don't have use for it
#960 [11:30] <Morrolan> ^
#961 [11:30] <skope> would be only toy for me :)
#962 [11:30] <g> I use it for server administration
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#964 [11:30] <g> And it keeps me in contact, pretty much everywhere
#965 [11:30] <skope> i use my phone for server administration
#966 [11:31] <skope> i have to be available 24/7
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#968 [11:31] <g> Everything like that feels small
#969 [11:31] <g> since I got an iPad
#970 [11:31] <g> it's weird
#971 [11:31] <skope> hehe, i bet
#972 [11:31] <skope> i have qwerty, so administration isn't so hard
#973 [11:31] <skope> i've been coding c with it too :)
#974 [11:31] <g> Used to have a massive touchscreen phone
#975 [11:31] <g> I was like "lol that's huge"
#976 [11:31] <g> Now I have iPad, and it's like "wtf, that's tiny"
#977 [11:31] <skope> :D
#978 [11:31] <skope> logical
#979 [11:32] <g> Unexpected though
#980 [11:32] <g> you can code C on these if you jailbreak
#981 [11:32] <g> and compile it too :P
#982 [11:32] <skope> hehe yeah
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#984 [11:32] <skope> i did my codings via ssh tho
#985 [11:32] <skope> and compiled in the server
#986 [11:32] <g> Mm.
#987 [11:32] <g> I have a nice SSH client too
#988 [11:32] <g> iSSH, lol
#989 [11:33] <skope> isn't it included in the os?
#990 [11:33] <g> No
#991 [11:33] <skope> weird
#992 [11:33] <g> The OS is, by default, very locked down
#993 [11:33] <g> then you jailbreak it
#994 [11:33] <skope> i've been expecting integrated ssh in windows
#995 [11:33] <g> It doesn't run windows :P:
#996 [11:33] <g> :P*
#997 [11:33] <g> It runs iOS, I thought you'd know that xD
#998 [11:33] <skope> i know, but i'm running it in my desktop
#999 [11:33] <g> Windows doesn't like SSHds
#1000 [11:33] <skope> yeah, and it sucks so much
#1001 [11:33] <g> You're supposed to use Terminal Services
#1002 [11:33] <g> or RDP
#1003 [11:34] <g> RDP is actually really fast
#1004 [11:34] <g> I have a nice RDP client too :P
#1005 [11:34] <skope> putty tray is nice, i've used it for a while
#1006 [11:34] <g> I always use putty
#1007 [11:34] <g> Primary ssh client
#1008 [11:34] <skope> yeah
#1009 [11:35] <skope> putty was my choice for ages, but putty tray has more features
#1010 [11:35] <skope> nutty sucked, cause it's been built around damn old putty
#1011 [11:35] <SinZ> PuTTy is epic
#1012 [11:36] <g> I have the extended Putty thing
#1013 [11:36] <g> whatever it's called
#1014 [11:36] <skope> no idea
#1015 [11:36] <skope> bah, i should code
#1016 [11:36] <skope> but i'm drunk soon
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#1018 [11:36] <skope> and then it's useless
#1019 [11:36] <g> lol
#1020 [11:36] <g> I just got my build server working
#1021 [11:36] <g> http://irc.pearsoncoles.com:8085/browse/SUPPORTIRCBOT-SUPPORTIRCBOT
#1022 [11:37] * g is pleased with his work
#1022 [11:37] <skope> nice
#1023 [11:37] <skope> well done
#1024 [11:37] <g> It took like
#1025 [11:37] <g> hm
#1026 [11:37] <g> five hours maybe?
#1027 [11:37] <skope> i just started damn big project with my friends
#1028 [11:37] <skope> web stuff
#1029 [11:37] <g> oic
#1030 [11:37] <skope> weird to code with real professionals
#1031 [11:38] <skope> but damn good practise
#1032 [11:38] <g> Yeah
#1033 [11:38] <g> I had a summer job working with a company
#1034 [11:38] <g> Felt so surreal
#1035 [11:38] <skope> and alone :D
#1036 [11:38] <skope> "damn i can't do anything really"
#1037 [11:38] <g> lol
#1038 [11:39] <g> Yeah, I came to them with no C++ experience at all
#1039 [11:39] <g> By the end of it, I was almost fluent in C++/Qt
#1040 [11:39] <skope> what?
#1041 [11:39] <skope> how long contract?
#1042 [11:39] <g> couple of months
#1043 [11:39] <skope> you've been coding before?
#1044 [11:39] <g> That was the first time I used C++
#1045 [11:40] <g> Before that, it was Python
#1046 [11:40] <skope> but coding experience still
#1047 [11:40] <skope> easier to start with new language
#1048 [11:40] <g> true
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#1050 [11:40] <skope> i've been doing perl and php for few years now
#1051 [11:40] <skope> and about nothing else
#1052 [11:41] <g> I'm not a fan of either of those
#1053 [11:41] <g> but then, I don't do web dev
#1054 [11:41] <g> so
#1055 [11:41] <skope> yeah, i haven't been doing anything else with those
#1056 [11:41] <skope> and php is useless for anything else than web dev
#1057 [11:41] <g> PHP is too damn slow to do anything else
#1058 [11:41] <g> yeah
#1059 [11:41] <skope> i think i got ja web dev job
#1060 [11:41] <skope> but it's ASP
#1061 [11:42] <skope> i said fuck off people
#1062 [11:42] <g> xD
#1063 [11:42] <g> ASP is disgusting
#1064 [11:42] <g> I don't see why anyone bothers with it
#1065 [11:42] <skope> yeah
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#1069 [11:51] <qster> my friend who makes websites still uses Microsoft Frontpage :P
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#1071 [11:54] <skope> qster: eh :D
#1072 [11:55] <Captain-Lightning> qster, your friend does this professionally?
#1073 [11:55] <skope> i hope not
#1074 [11:56] <Captain-Lightning> If so, that is disappointing.
#1075 [11:56] <qster> well.. it's his profession but I wouldn't say professionally :)
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#1077 [11:56] <skope> me neither, if he uses frontpage
#1078 [11:56] <skope> i don't like any wysiwyg-software
#1079 [12:07] <skope> oh and btw, maps are coming to mc?
#1080 [12:08] <skope> i read something from somewhere
#1081 [12:09] <relsqui> yeah, the dev blog
#1082 [12:09] <relsqui> generally a pretty reliable source about such things
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#1091 [12:25] <Lewandowski> Hi! I have a small question. Does the site http://kontagier.pl/product/58/minecraft.html selling legally a gift codes at a lower price? (44,90zł = 11,41€)
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#1093 [12:26] <Replayed> Hi all.
#1094 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> The only legit place to buy gift codes is from minecraft.net
#1095 [12:26] <Replayed> I have a minecraft classic server.
#1096 [12:26] <Replayed> HaxCraft.
#1097 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Lewandowski - See mojang's blog: http://mojang.com/
#1098 [12:26] <Replayed> it's 12/12 and running on my pc.
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#1100 [12:26] <Replayed> I want to connect it to a webserver.
#1101 [12:26] <Replayed> To make it 24/7
#1102 [12:26] <Replayed> anyone has any idea ?
#1103 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> You want to pay somebody else to host it for you?
#1104 [12:27] <Replayed> Yes.
#1105 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> There's quite a few hosting providers that can do that for you
#1106 [12:27] <Replayed> Yeah, I saw some 20$ a month.
#1107 [12:27] <Replayed> But they are mostly for beta servers.
#1108 [12:27] <skope> http://www.server4you.com/
#1109 [12:28] <skope> around 100 euros per year
#1110 [12:28] <Replayed> Is there anyway I can use
#1111 [12:28] <Replayed> 000webhost
#1112 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1113 [12:28] <Replayed> Yeah thank you skope :)
#1114 [12:28] <Replayed> Oh.
#1115 [12:28] <Replayed> Connect it with MySl
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#1117 [12:29] <Replayed> Ok.
#1118 [12:29] <Replayed> Thank you guys.
#1119 [12:29] <skope> np
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#1134 [12:58] <Morrolan> Whoa, what happened here?
#1135 [12:59] <skope> howso?
#1136 [12:59] <Morrolan> Like, half a millioin disconnects and reconnects? ^^
#1137 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> I blame Kealper
#1138 [12:59] <skope> i blame internet
#1139 [12:59] <skope> it made me like this
#1140 [12:59] <Morrolan> Sue it!
#1141 [13:00] <skope> i thought of it
#1142 [13:00] <skope> but nah, i'll drink more booze
#1143 [13:00] <skope> i'm getting pretty drunk
#1144 [13:00] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok.
#1145 [13:00] <skope> this is the finnish way to handle things
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#1148 [13:01] <skope> only bad thing about this, that i'm getting chatty
#1149 [13:01] <skope> and when i get chatty, i become damn annoying
#1150 [13:02] <Morrolan> Oh, we have our "tools" to make people less chatty. :D
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#1152 [13:02] <Morrolan> Actually, why are you getting drunk though?
#1153 [13:02] <skope> i know that you do ;)
#1154 [13:03] <skope> well, it's finnish workers celebration day today
#1155 [13:03] <Morrolan> Oh, ok. ^^
#1156 [13:03] <skope> it's called vappu
#1157 [13:03] <skope> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walpurgis_Night#Finland
#1158 [13:04] <Morrolan> Ah, it's on the 30. April or on the 1. May.
#1159 [13:04] <skope> yeah, it's 1st may this year
#1160 [13:04] <skope> but since it's sunday, people get drunk today
#1161 [13:05] <skope> about whole finland is drunk now
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#1163 [13:05] <Morrolan> ^^
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#1165 [13:06] <Morrolan> I guess there are worse things you could do than getting drunk. Here some people go out, trying to fuck up everything.
#1166 [13:06] <skope> hehe
#1167 [13:06] <skope> in finland people do that often too
#1168 [13:06] <skope> stab people and fight with each other
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#1170 [13:07] <skope> Morrolan: where are you from?
#1171 [13:07] <qster> I had a fantastic drunk argument with the wife last night, nearly threw her computer off of the balcony
#1172 [13:07] <Morrolan> Skope: Switzerland
#1173 [13:07] <qster> she is also from Finland
#1174 [13:07] <skope> qster: nice
#1175 [13:08] <skope> Morrolan: heh, thought you're from china according to your host :)
#1176 [13:08] <Morrolan> Wut? XD
#1177 [13:08] <skope> cust.static.84-253-56-154.cybernet.ch
#1178 [13:08] <Morrolan> cust.static.84-253-56-154.cybernet.ch
#1179 [13:08] <skope> ;)
#1180 [13:08] <Smil3> Morrolan, hey
#1181 [13:08] <Morrolan> ah, the "ch" XD
#1182 [13:08] <Smil3> the guy i wanted to ask
#1183 [13:08] <skope> haha, damn!
#1184 [13:08] <Morrolan> Hey Smil3
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#1186 [13:09] <skope> didn't know that .ch is for switzerland
#1187 [13:09] <Morrolan> China has .cn
#1188 [13:09] <skope> stupid me
#1189 [13:09] <Morrolan> :D
#1190 [13:09] <skope> they look so alike!
#1191 [13:09] <Smil3> my freind and i have been playing since you helped, me (nolife i know ey), and we are wondering now, how do we save, does it save, and how do we check if it did?
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#1193 [13:09] <Morrolan> Smil3: It saves automatically from time to time.
#1194 [13:10] <Morrolan> If you want to force a save you can type save-all in the console.
#1195 [13:10] <Smil3> k
#1196 [13:10] <skope> don't it work with /save-all?
#1197 [13:10] <Morrolan> skope: That's if you do it ingame.
#1198 [13:10] <skope> yeah
#1199 [13:10] <Morrolan> In the console you don't need the dash.
#1200 [13:10] <skope> that's what i meant
#1201 [13:11] <Smil3> ty
#1202 [13:11] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
#1203 [13:11] <skope> but have you noticed, that if you get drunk, you'll listen to 90's eurotrance hits?
#1204 [13:11] <skope> or is it just me
#1205 [13:12] <Morrolan> Euh, don't know. I'm not drunk too often, and I actually never thought about what music I listen to when I'm drunk. ^^
#1206 [13:12] <skope> nice :)
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#1208 [13:12] <skope> i'm drunk damn often
#1209 [13:12] <skope> too often
#1210 [13:13] <qster> same.. every night pretty much
#1211 [13:13] <qster> Fins love their drink
#1212 [13:13] <skope> qster: where are you from?
#1213 [13:14] <qster> I'm from England, wife Finland (pori)
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#1215 [13:14] <Smil3> if i hit my freinds dog, how do i get it to stop attacking me?
#1216 [13:14] <skope> why do you want to hit a dog?
#1217 [13:14] <Smil3> he looked at me funny
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#1219 [13:14] <skope> i wouldn't hit a dog still
#1220 [13:15] <skope> it's pretty stupid
#1221 [13:15] <Smil3> so?
#1222 [13:15] <Smil3> how do i stp it?
#1223 [13:15] <Smil3> kill it?
#1224 [13:15] <qster> give it a squeeky toy
#1225 [13:15] <NotiCon> you mean wolf?
#1226 [13:16] <Smil3> yer
#1227 [13:16] <NotiCon> you dont
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#1229 [13:16] <qster> omg.. was thinking in real life.. :/
#1230 [13:17] <qster> they're like zombiepigs... they never forget
#1231 [13:17] <NotiCon> qster: D:
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#1233 [13:18] <skope> oh
#1234 [13:18] <skope> i was thinking about irl too
#1235 [13:18] <skope> :DD
#1236 [13:18] <NotiCon> same
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#1239 [13:22] <SPaRT> lol
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#1241 [13:22] <SPaRT> i just set my wooden house on fire with lava
#1242 [13:22] <genshou> lol
#1243 [13:22] <qster> oops
#1244 [13:22] <genshou> I've done that.
#1245 [13:22] <NotiCon> SPaRT: been there done that
#1246 [13:22] <genshou> Actually, it was the entire outer wall of my base camp :<
#1247 [13:22] <genshou> along with every tent along the outside
#1248 [13:22] <qster> think most of us have done that at one point
#1249 [13:22] <genshou> :D
#1250 [13:23] <genshou> and several Humans+ settlers and wanderers died painful, flaming deaths :D
#1251 [13:23] <SPaRT> but the worst thing about it is that it did that because i had that lava in my hands while getting of the "train" -.-
#1252 [13:24] <SPaRT> 88.75.149.26
#1253 [13:24] <genshou> Well, I hope you learned your lesson
#1254 [13:24] <genshou> don't hold lava while right-clicking :(
#1255 [13:24] <SPaRT> now i've got to get the water outta my ouse
#1256 [13:26] <genshou> muahaha... speaking of lava, I finally cleared out the massive lava pit that was in the way of my underground construction :D
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#1258 [13:28] <genshou> Now I can try out this automated wheat farm thingy... never bothered before because of the lack of seeds :D
#1259 [13:30] <Morrolan> genshou: The one where you flood the farm to harves the wheat?
#1260 [13:30] <genshou> yes
#1261 [13:30] <Morrolan> Problem is that you won't get any seeds then. :/
#1262 [13:30] <qster> don't have the patience for wheat
#1263 [13:30] <genshou> that changed in 1.5 beta :D
#1264 [13:30] <Morrolan> But it certainly saves a lot of time.
#1265 [13:30] <Morrolan> genshou: Really?
#1266 [13:30] <Morrolan> Nice. :)
#1267 [13:30] <genshou> Yep.
#1268 [13:31] <genshou> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y226Lr7m5L8 <--- this, dual-sided and underground :D
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#1273 [13:40] <weet> In SMP how can I construct a wall that begins at bedrock but goes really high
#1274 [13:40] <relsqui> one block at a time
#1275 [13:40] <relsqui> just like anywhere else
#1276 [13:40] <relsqui> I mean. you'll have to dig down to bedrock first.
#1277 [13:41] <weet> well I mean if its my server, is there mods I can use
#1278 [13:41] <_303> worldedit
#1279 [13:41] <genshou> You could use flight if you enable it in your server config
#1280 [13:42] <_303> select two points on the ground using the wand, //expand 127 up, then //set cobble or whatever
#1281 [13:42] <genshou> worldedit works too :3
#1282 [13:42] <weet> but that will construct it from the points
#1283 [13:42] <weet> it wont go down
#1284 [13:42] <_303> that's where you'd use //expand
#1285 [13:42] <weet> ahh
#1286 [13:42] <weet> lemme try
#1287 [13:42] <_303> the wiki knows more
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#1289 [13:46] <Morrolan> 303: //Expand vert expands from top to bottom
#1290 [13:46] <Morrolan> If that's what you're looking for.
#1291 [13:46] <_303> aha
#1292 [13:46] <weet> so that way it goes down? yeah pretty much. thank you
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#1294 [13:47] <SPaRT> will glass keep the lava inside?
#1295 [13:48] <SPaRT> before i set my house on fire again....
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#1297 [13:48] <qster> yep
#1298 [13:49] <SPaRT> ok
#1299 [13:49] <SPaRT> thx
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#1303 [13:52] <Morrolan> Spart: Lava can set things on fire through walls up to three blocks or so though.
#1304 [13:52] <SPaRT> ok
#1305 [13:52] <SPaRT> i have to get some cans of lava again first
#1306 [13:53] <skope> can you store lava in buckets?
#1307 [13:53] <NotiCon> yup
#1308 [13:53] <skope> nice
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#1310 [13:58] <Jackson413> anyone here
#1311 [13:58] <skope> yes
#1312 [13:58] <Jackson413> my minecraft is not working
#1313 [13:58] <Jackson413> i have tried restarting my computer
#1314 [13:58] <skope> how it isn't working?
#1315 [13:58] <Jackson413> deleteing the bin folder
#1316 [13:58] <Jackson413> i log in
#1317 [13:58] <Kealper> could you be a bit more specific? what is not working about it?
#1318 [13:58] <Jackson413> then the Mojang screen comes up
#1319 [13:58] <Kealper> and when did it stop working? randomly or after a specific update?
#1320 [13:58] <Jackson413> and then it crashes
#1321 [13:59] <Jackson413> randomly
#1322 [13:59] <Kealper> crashes? completely?
#1323 [13:59] <Jackson413> yeah
#1324 [13:59] <Jackson413> like an error flashes for a second
#1325 [13:59] <Kealper> like closes out kind of crash or just doesn't show anything
#1326 [13:59] <Jackson413> but i cant see it
#1327 [13:59] <Jackson413> it crashes
#1328 [13:59] <Jackson413> the task literally ends
#1329 [13:59] <Kealper> delete the texturepacks folder in %appdata%\.minecraft
#1330 [13:59] <Jackson413> i even have upgraded java
#1331 [13:59] <Jackson413> ok hold on
#1332 [14:00] <Jackson413> son of a bitch
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#1334 [14:00] <Jackson413> i worked 2 hours on that
#1335 [14:00] <Jackson413> dammit kealper lol
#1336 [14:00] <Kealper> did it work after that though?
#1337 [14:00] <Jackson413> yes
#1338 [14:00] <skope> :D
#1339 [14:00] * Kealper bows
#1339 [14:00] <r42xer> My Minecraft keeps on crashing, I re-downloaded the folders everything...
#1340 [14:00] <skope> frustrating, isn't it?
#1341 [14:00] * Jackson413 kicks himself
#1341 [14:01] <Kealper> Jackson413: want to know what you did wrong?
#1342 [14:01] <Jackson413> sure
#1343 [14:01] <Kealper> Jackson413: your texture pack was using images that were larger than stock size without having the mcpatcher mod installed
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#1345 [14:01] <Jackson413> well
#1346 [14:01] <Jackson413> dammit
#1347 [14:01] <Jackson413> i didnt path
#1348 [14:02] <r42xer> Halp?
#1349 [14:02] <Kealper> r42xer: could you be a bit more specific with how it crashes?
#1350 [14:02] <Jackson413> patch
#1351 [14:02] <Kealper> r42xer: does it show any errors? or just close?
#1352 [14:02] <skope> and when it crashes
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#1354 [14:02] <supervoltage> Hello
#1355 [14:03] <skope> lo
#1356 [14:03] <r42xer> Kealper: IIt closes too fast to read, but I got this from the console. http://pastebin.com/CBfLXxJj
#1357 [14:03] <supervoltage> Can anyone help me with HD patcher and a 256x256 texture pack?
#1358 [14:03] <Kealper> r42xer: have you installed any mods?
#1359 [14:03] <r42xer> Nope.
#1360 [14:04] <r42xer> Fresh vanilla copy.
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#1362 [14:04] <Kealper> supervoltage: this is a tech support channel, not a modding help channel :/
#1363 [14:04] <Kealper> supervoltage: try #risucraft for general modding help
#1364 [14:04] <supervoltage> Kealper: aw, snap
#1365 [14:04] <supervoltage> ok, will try
#1366 [14:04] <supervoltage> thank you
#1367 [14:04] <r42xer> I literally deleted all the folders and it redownloaded everything
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#1369 [14:04] <r42xer> But it crashes after "Simulating world for a bit"
#1370 [14:04] <Kealper> r42xer: have you deleted everything in the %appdata%\.minecraft folder (aside from the saves folder)
#1371 [14:05] <r42xer> after creating a new world.
#1372 [14:05] <r42xer> yes.
#1373 [14:05] <Kealper> hmm...
#1374 [14:05] <Kealper> have you tried downloading a fresh copy of minecraft.exe from minecraft.net?
#1375 [14:05] <r42xer> no...
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#1377 [14:05] <r42xer> let me try that.
#1378 [14:06] <r42xer> still not working.
#1379 [14:08] <Kealper> hmm...
#1380 [14:08] <Kealper> has it ever worked before?
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#1382 [14:08] <r42xer> yeah.
#1383 [14:08] <r42xer> I was playing last night.
#1384 [14:08] <Jackson413> my download speed just hit 1200kbs
#1385 [14:09] * Kealper scratches his head
#1385 [14:09] <Jackson413> can i try an idea?
#1386 [14:10] <Kealper> go for it lol, i'm at a loss
#1387 [14:10] <Jackson413> r42xer, open your command prompt, type java
#1388 [14:10] <Jackson413> hit enter
#1389 [14:10] <r42xer> yeah
#1390 [14:10] <Jackson413> what comes up
#1391 [14:10] <r42xer> a bunch of crap about how to use it
#1392 [14:10] <Kealper> java -version
#1393 [14:10] <r42xer> java version "1.6.0_24"
#1394 [14:10] <r42xer> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07-334-10M3326)
#1395 [14:10] <r42xer> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.1-b02-334, mixed mode)
#1396 [14:11] <Kealper> i figured it wouldn't be that...since it worked fine just recently...
#1397 [14:11] <Jackson413> ok
#1398 [14:11] <skope> 25 is newest afaik
#1399 [14:11] <Kealper> does it crash like that on any map?
#1400 [14:11] <Jackson413> well im just checking if it got screwed up or something
#1401 [14:11] <r42xer> yes.
#1402 [14:11] <r42xer> Im on a mac btw.
#1403 [14:11] <Jackson413> oh gawd
#1404 [14:12] <r42xer> lol
#1405 [14:12] <Kealper> hmm...
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#1407 [14:12] <r42xer> perhaps I should try a restart.
#1408 [14:12] <Jackson413> mebbe
#1409 [14:12] <Jackson413> kealper
#1410 [14:13] <Kealper> ?
#1411 [14:13] <Jackson413> have you ever installed an hd pack?
#1412 [14:13] <Kealper> no
#1413 [14:13] <Jackson413> dammit
#1414 [14:13] <Kealper> i just use my own texture pack :3
#1415 [14:13] <Jackson413> would you know how?
#1416 [14:13] <_303> Kealper: got a thread for it?
#1417 [14:13] <_303> Jackson413: need the hd texture patcher by xau
#1418 [14:13] <Jackson413> i did
#1419 [14:13] <Wahrheit> xales: poke
#1420 [14:13] <Kealper> no, it's just one that i make and keep updated for me and a few friends
#1421 [14:14] <Jackson413> im trying to use LB Photo Realism
#1422 [14:14] * r42xer [r42xer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1423 [14:14] <Jackson413> and im stuck on the mojang screen
#1424 [14:14] <r42xer> back
#1425 [14:14] <Jackson413> not responding
#1426 [14:14] <Kealper> mostly since i didn't make a lot of it, i've taken Quandary and Painterly and used those as bases, and have just been touching/mixing them up and adding stuff where i see fit
#1427 [14:14] <_303> painterly <3
#1428 [14:15] <_303> modders' choice
#1429 [14:15] <r42xer> I feel like MCP messed my java up.
#1430 [14:15] <r42xer> :C
#1431 [14:15] <Jackson413> _303: have you run lb photo realism
#1432 [14:15] <Jackson413> r42xer: reinstall/upgrade java?
#1433 [14:15] <r42xer> Can't on mac.
#1434 [14:15] <_303> Jackson413: can barely run minecraft as is, don't want to dare 128x tex packs or what it is
#1435 [14:15] <Jackson413> dammit
#1436 [14:15] <Kealper> lol
#1437 [14:15] <Jackson413> i spent $300 on a video card
#1438 [14:16] * Kealper finds screenshots of his texture pack laying around
#1438 [14:16] <Jackson413> and am trying to make good use of it
#1439 [14:16] <r42xer> Ill just wait until my Windows comes back from the shop.
#1440 [14:16] <_303> Jackson413: checked the hd patcher thread for a faq or so?
#1441 [14:16] <r42xer> sigh only 2 more weeks.
#1442 [14:17] <Jackson413> i just tried the default settings for the patcher
#1443 [14:17] <Jackson413> there were no other settings specified in the thread
#1444 [14:18] <_303> r42xer: http://pastebin.com/CBfLXxJj that your error?
#1445 [14:18] <r42xer> yes.
#1446 [14:19] <_303> you sure your jar is clean? doubt it's an error with your java install
#1447 [14:20] <Kealper> he says he completely whiped the minecraft folder clean...which is why that has me stumped :/
#1448 [14:20] <Kealper> beacuse that is a crash i would expect from a bad mod
#1449 [14:20] <xales> Kealper: are you sure he wiped the correct minecraft folder? :P
#1450 [14:20] <Kealper> xales: that is indeed a good question
#1451 [14:20] <_303> Kealper: it's NoClassDefFoundError, so he'd have to somehow have deleted a class from his jar
#1452 [14:20] <_303> mods don't delete notchclasses
#1453 [14:21] <Kealper> notchclasses lol
#1454 [14:21] * Kealper uploads Kwandary screenshots
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#1455 [14:23] <Kealper> http://imgur.com/a/S3AH8#S8xLg
#1456 [14:24] <r42xer> I'm pretty sure I deleted the right folder.
#1457 [14:25] <Kealper> where was said folder?
#1458 [14:25] <r42xer> Users/admin/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#1459 [14:26] <r42xer> deleted everything, including my saved worlds :C
#1460 [14:26] * Kealper thinks that sounds about right
#1460 [14:26] <_303> http://tiny.cc/modinstall might help you find the right folder
#1461 [14:27] <r42xer> It is the right folder.
#1462 [14:27] <_303> does your minecraft.jar contain that class?
#1463 [14:28] <r42xer> let me check.
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#1465 [14:28] <r42xer> yes.
#1466 [14:28] <r42xer> ?
#1467 [14:28] <r42xer> wtf
#1468 [14:29] <Kealper> is it 243 bytes?
#1469 [14:29] <Kealper> in size
#1470 [14:29] <r42xer> AHAHA no.
#1471 [14:29] <Kealper> hmm....
#1472 [14:29] <r42xer> it doesnt even define itself.
#1473 [14:29] <Kealper> delete minecraft.jar and run your game again then
#1474 [14:29] <Kealper> it downloaded corrupt or something
#1475 [14:29] <r42xer> i did that like 5 times.
#1476 [14:29] <r42xer> can someone upload their la.class?
#1477 [14:30] <r42xer> or is that against the rules.
#1478 [14:30] <Kealper> i'm actually...not sure if that would be against the rules..
#1479 [14:30] <r42xer> i dont think so...
#1480 [14:30] <Kealper> i know whole files are..but a few obfuscated bytes of class file...
#1481 [14:31] <Kealper> screw it, gimme a sec...
#1482 [14:31] <_303> r42xer: crow has sent you a notice
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#1484 [14:31] <Kealper> oh, i just threw it on my server for him
#1485 [14:31] * Kealper deletes that file then
#1485 [14:32] <r42xer> http://pastebin.com/P5skTHn0 is all that is in there
#1486 [14:32] <_303> yeah, that is correct
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#1488 [14:33] <r42xer> but it doesnt even...
#1489 [14:33] <r42xer> how is it compiled?
#1490 [14:33] <Kealper> O.o
#1491 [14:33] <_303> what?
#1492 [14:33] <Kealper> that isn't what mine looks like
#1493 [14:34] <_303> abstract interface -- redundancy much?
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#1495 [14:34] <r42xer> How is it compiled into a class file without defining that it is one?
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#1497 [14:35] <_303> please restate your question, I don't understand
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#1499 [14:35] <_303> your confusion confuses me
#1500 [14:35] <Samiy> Hey, is there anyway to change my e-mail adress?
#1501 [14:36] <skope> weird if there is not
#1502 [14:36] <r42xer> it doesnt have a class definition
#1503 [14:36] <r42xer> i didnt know they could be compiled.
#1504 [14:36] <_303> well it's an interface implemented by other classes
#1505 [14:36] <_303> which is the point of interfaces
#1506 [14:36] <r42xer> oh
#1507 [14:37] <_303> like InventoryPlayer implements IInventory, TileEntityChest implements IInventory etc
#1508 [14:37] <r42xer> oh
#1509 [14:37] <r42xer> that makes sense
#1510 [14:37] <Jackson413> say i wanted to raise my java heap size
#1511 [14:37] <Jackson413> to 2 gb
#1512 [14:37] <Jackson413> how do i do that
#1513 [14:37] <r42xer> perhaps I will just recompile all my sources and try to run that.
#1514 [14:37] <_303> so you can make your class extend whatever parent class, but still provide a given reliable set of methods
#1515 [14:37] <Jackson413> i just need the parameters
#1516 [14:38] <Kealper> Jackson413: on what, server or client?
#1517 [14:38] <_303> -Xmx2048M ?
#1518 [14:38] <Jackson413> client
#1519 [14:38] <r42xer> use 2g instead of 1g in the parameters.
#1520 [14:38] <r42xer> or what 303 said
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#1522 [14:38] <Kealper> Jackson413: java -Xms2048M -Xmx2048M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1523 [14:38] <r42xer> -Xmx2G will work too
#1524 [14:39] * Kealper just does it in M out of habbit
#1524 [14:39] * r42xer is like a boss
#1524 [14:39] <Kealper> r42xer: check your PMs
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#1526 [14:41] <r42xer> I feel as if this new hybrid drive i installed is causing more problems than necessary
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#1528 [14:43] <Kealper> :/
#1529 [14:44] <r42xer> ?
#1530 [14:45] <Kealper> :/ at your situation
#1531 [14:45] <r42xer> oh yes.
#1532 [14:46] <r42xer> maybe this is a sign I should do my homework instead of playing minecraft.
#1533 [14:46] <skope> hell no
#1534 [14:46] <skope> homework sucks
#1535 [14:46] <r42xer> lol
#1536 [14:46] <r42xer> yes it does.
#1537 [14:47] <skope> i haven't done those in like 10 years
#1538 [14:47] <skope> and i've become damn awesome
#1539 [14:47] * Kealper remembers that stuff from years past
#1539 [14:47] * Kealper feels old now ._.
#1539 [14:48] <skope> how old are you?
#1540 [14:48] <skope> if i may ask
#1541 [14:48] <r42xer> me?
#1542 [14:48] * r42xer wishes his computer would come back.
#1542 [14:48] <Kealper> not as old as i sometimes make myself sound lol
#1543 [14:48] * noobidoo [noobidoo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1544 [14:48] <Kealper> i'll be 21 in a few months :/
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#1546 [14:48] <r42xer> woo bars time
#1547 [14:48] <SniperXPX> How do I specify an amount of items in kit.txt for Canary/hMod?
#1548 [14:48] <skope> hehe
#1549 [14:49] <Kealper> \o/
#1550 [14:49] <SniperXPX> Syntax in the comments: #NAME:IDs:DELAY:GROUP
#1551 [14:49] <skope> you're young man ;)
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#1553 [14:49] <r42xer> that sounds really creepy
#1554 [14:49] <r42xer> coming from someone on the internet
#1555 [14:49] <Kealper> sadly, older than much of Minecraft's community ._.
#1556 [14:49] * r42xer shudders
#1556 [14:49] <SniperXPX> Anybody?
#1557 [14:49] <skope> well i'm just 23
#1558 [14:50] <skope> so young too
#1559 [14:50] <Kealper> SniperXPX: this is a channel more for core tech support, not for mods
#1560 [14:50] <Kealper> you could try #risucraft and see if they know
#1561 [14:50] <SniperXPX> Well, I classified it as common server-admin knowledge. Where would I go?
#1562 [14:50] <SniperXPX> Ahh, okay thanks
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#1565 [14:53] <r42xer> Well, I just wait until I get my PC back. :C
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#1567 [14:53] <Smil3> whats a slime ball for?
#1568 [14:54] <xales> They don't do anything currently
#1569 [14:54] <Smil3> k thanks
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#1573 [14:58] <VDub> hello guys
#1574 [14:58] <VDub> can any of you help me with a minecraft issue ?:)
#1575 [14:58] <NotiCon> if you tell it we might
#1576 [14:58] <VDub> so ..
#1577 [14:59] <VDub> i have a minecraft server .. and i want to modify inventories
#1578 [14:59] * Oerg866__ [Oerg866__@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1579 [14:59] <VDub> how can i do that ?
#1580 [14:59] <xales> NBTEdit, if you are running it on Windows
#1581 [15:00] <VDub> ok ill try :-? thank you sir
#1582 [15:02] <VDub> but .. i think is better for me to install that plugin where i type in chat
#1583 [15:02] <VDub> what plugin is that ?:D
#1584 [15:02] <VDub> ./give item id etc
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#1586 [15:04] <veffect_minecraf> hey
#1587 [15:04] <VDub> .. NotiCon ?
#1588 [15:04] <veffect_minecraf> me?
#1589 [15:05] <VDub> not u ..
#1590 [15:05] <VDub> noticon
#1591 [15:05] <veffect_minecraf> will somone please help me :s
#1592 [15:05] <_303> (SniperXPX never actuallly showed up in risucraft)
#1593 [15:06] <veffect_minecraf> as i cant login to my account
#1594 [15:06] <xales> veffect_minecraf: Use the password recovery feature, otherwise, as the topic states, we can't help with account issues
#1595 [15:06] <veffect_minecraf> not like that
#1596 [15:07] <xales> Then what is the issue?
#1597 [15:07] <veffect_minecraf> im un able to press the login button
#1598 [15:07] <veffect_minecraf> it highlights
#1599 [15:07] <xales> Re download the launcher then
#1600 [15:07] <veffect_minecraf> i have
#1601 [15:07] <veffect_minecraf> :/
#1602 [15:07] <xales> What OS?
#1603 [15:07] <veffect_minecraf> windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
#1604 [15:07] <VDub> xales how can i install that plugin that allows me to use ./give command ?:-?
#1605 [15:07] <xales> VDub: It would be explained quite clearly in the plugin's topic on the forum
#1606 [15:07] <NotiCon> VDub: if you are running it as a server it already have /give command
#1607 [15:08] <skope> VDub: it works if you're op on the server
#1608 [15:08] <xales> veffect_minecraf: http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1609 [15:08] <NotiCon> use the servers console interface and write /op <yourplayernick>
#1610 [15:08] <VDub> thank you guys
#1611 [15:08] <veffect_minecraf> i downloaded both
#1612 [15:08] <veffect_minecraf> both do the same
#1613 [15:09] <xales> Has it always done that?
#1614 [15:09] <xales> Also, try playing in the browser, rather than using the downloaded version
#1615 [15:10] <veffect_minecraf> i did
#1616 [15:10] <xales> And?
#1617 [15:10] <veffect_minecraf> i cant press any buttons :/
#1618 [15:10] <xales> Reinstall Java
#1619 [15:10] <veffect_minecraf> kk
#1620 [15:11] <VDub> is there a command to stop creeps coming at night ? make peacefull ? :D
#1621 [15:12] <xales> On the server?
#1622 [15:12] <VDub> yes
#1623 [15:12] <xales> server.properties
#1624 [15:12] <xales> edit it, restart server
#1625 [15:12] <VDub> oh i didnt hink at that lol :))
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#1627 [15:20] <veffect_minecraf> i have just re downloaded java and JDK
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#1629 [15:21] <xales> uninstall it
#1630 [15:21] <xales> then re-install it
#1631 [15:21] <xales> then restart your computer
#1632 [15:21] <veffect_minecraf> will do
#1633 [15:22] <Zw> Hi!
#1634 [15:22] <Zw> My server lagg in some areas
#1635 [15:22] <Zw> why is that?
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#1637 [15:22] <Zw> its nothing special there (redstone light etc)
#1638 [15:22] <Zw> just a random area lagg when you enter it
#1639 [15:22] <veffect_minecraf> brb going to restart
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#1641 [15:22] <xales> Zw: It's probably loading the area, and nothing can fix that but getting a better computer to run it on
#1642 [15:23] <Zw> xales, i just got a new computer
#1643 [15:23] <xales> okay, and?
#1644 [15:23] <Zw> i7 with 10 gb ram 200mb up / down
#1645 [15:23] <Zw> 12*gb ram
#1646 [15:23] <xales> it's probably HDD then
#1647 [15:23] <Zw> dedicated to server
#1648 [15:23] <Zw> ram disk
#1649 [15:23] <Zw> sata ram disk
#1650 [15:23] <xales> err, what?
#1651 [15:23] <xales> sata...ramdisk?
#1652 [15:24] <Zw> ye, dedicated ram to the disk
#1653 [15:24] <Zw> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM_disk
#1654 [15:25] <Zw> so tweeked the server much to peform the best on the freaking java game :P
#1655 [15:26] <xales> I know what a ramdisk is, but...sata doesn't apply to that?
#1656 [15:27] <Zw> wel, it worked
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#1658 [15:27] <Replayed> Hi all.
#1659 [15:28] <skope> hjia
#1660 [15:28] <Replayed> I would like to ask if there is any way to make a minecraft classic server 24/7
#1661 [15:28] <Replayed> I have already one.
#1662 [15:28] <Replayed> Hey skope.
#1663 [15:28] * veffect_minecraft [veffect_minecraft@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1664 [15:28] <veffect_minecraft> im back
#1665 [15:28] <veffect_minecraft> and i still have same issue
#1666 [15:28] <veffect_minecraft> :(
#1667 [15:28] <Replayed> Welcome back.
#1668 [15:28] <Replayed> I want to make my MC Classic 24/7
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#1670 [15:29] <skope> Replayed: you have a server?
#1671 [15:29] <Replayed> Yes.
#1672 [15:29] <Replayed> HaxCraft.
#1673 [15:29] <Replayed> But it's running on my pc.
#1674 [15:29] <Replayed> I want to make it 24/7
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#1676 [15:29] <skope> well you need a serfver
#1677 [15:29] <skope> server*
#1678 [15:29] <veffect_minecraft> leave ur pc on 24/7 then
#1679 [15:29] <skope> or that
#1680 [15:29] <Replayed> I can't do it.
#1681 [15:29] <veffect_minecraft> ooh
#1682 [15:30] <Replayed> The Ram will explode from heat.
#1683 [15:30] <skope> you can't do it then
#1684 [15:30] <Captain-Lightning> what
#1685 [15:30] <Captain-Lightning> Bullshit
#1686 [15:30] <Captain-Lightning> Your ram does not explode.
#1687 [15:30] <veffect_minecraft> i could XD
#1688 [15:30] <Captain-Lightning> Your RAM can't even overheat.
#1689 [15:30] <veffect_minecraft> 8gb ram
#1690 [15:30] <Replayed> Also I don't want to have a lot of bandwith.
#1691 [15:30] <veffect_minecraft> LD
#1692 [15:30] <Replayed> I know..
#1693 [15:30] <Replayed> But
#1694 [15:30] <Replayed> look
#1695 [15:30] <skope> Replayed: well, you still need a server for that :)
#1696 [15:30] <Replayed> I use a proxy to open ports.
#1697 [15:30] <veffect_minecraft> i have 8gb ram quad core cpu
#1698 [15:30] <skope> try some cheap virtual server hosting company
#1699 [15:30] <skope> it's about 100e per year
#1700 [15:30] <Replayed> I use proxy to open ports and that makes my internet supper sloww.
#1701 [15:30] <Replayed> Yes.
#1702 [15:30] <Captain-Lightning> If you don't want high traffic, don't run a server. You will need to find someone to host it for you.
#1703 [15:31] <Replayed> Like ?
#1704 [15:31] <skope> and usually home internets sucks ass
#1705 [15:31] <skope> Replayed: server4you.com
#1706 [15:31] <Replayed> Yes.
#1707 [15:31] <Replayed> I did go there.
#1708 [15:31] <Replayed> I'am waiting for live chat support.
#1709 [15:31] <Replayed> But can they host a MCLawl server ?
#1710 [15:31] <skope> i have unlimited traffic in my internet connection
#1711 [15:31] <skope> actually i have three
#1712 [15:31] <skope> two 3G and one cable
#1713 [15:31] <Captain-Lightning> How much money are you willing to spend?
#1714 [15:32] <Captain-Lightning> Per month?
#1715 [15:32] <xales> Replayed: I'd suggest http://allgamer.com/ (either VPS or Game Servers - VPS if you know how to run a Linux server on your own)
#1716 [15:32] <Captain-Lightning> Because servers are quite expensive.
#1717 [15:32] <xales> ^
#1718 [15:32] <skope> linux servers aren't so hard
#1719 [15:32] <Replayed> Yes.
#1720 [15:32] <Replayed> They are ;)
#1721 [15:32] <skope> just use debian and google
#1722 [15:32] <veffect_minecraft> http://brohost.com
#1723 [15:32] <veffect_minecraft> :)
#1724 [15:32] <xales> wow, no
#1725 [15:32] <xales> no brohost
#1726 [15:32] <xales> :P
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#1728 [15:32] <Replayed> They host MClawl ?
#1729 [15:32] <veffect_minecraft> i use brohost
#1730 [15:32] <Replayed> Because I have to start .exe to startup.
#1731 [15:32] <skope> server4you.de is nice if you don't do anything bigger
#1732 [15:33] <Replayed> But do they host a classic Mclawl server ?
#1733 [15:33] <Captain-Lightning> brohost.com...redirects to a domain squatter.
#1734 [15:33] <skope> i have damn much problems with open files in the system
#1735 [15:33] <veffect_minecraft> i know
#1736 [15:33] <Captain-Lightning> Replayed, you'll need a VPS.
#1737 [15:33] <Replayed> Yeah.
#1738 [15:33] <Replayed> Howmuch does it cost me ?
#1739 [15:33] <Replayed> the cheapest ?
#1740 [15:33] <xales> How many people do you want on it?
#1741 [15:33] <veffect_minecraft> about $16 a month
#1742 [15:33] <veffect_minecraft> for windows
#1743 [15:33] <Replayed> 12
#1744 [15:33] <Replayed> 10 or 12.
#1745 [15:33] <skope> bah, windows servers
#1746 [15:34] <xales> veffect_minecraft: Running Windows on a server is NOT okay
#1747 [15:34] <Replayed> Hmm ok.
#1748 [15:34] <skope> it's like taking it from some hairy faggot
#1749 [15:34] <xales> you cannot do that
#1750 [15:34] <Captain-Lightning> Linux servers > Windows servers
#1751 [15:34] <Replayed> Yeah that's why.
#1752 [15:34] <xales> Replayed: Probably around $40-$60/month, actually
#1753 [15:34] <Replayed> Why ?
#1754 [15:34] <Replayed> Wow.
#1755 [15:34] <xales> That's how much servers cost
#1756 [15:34] <Captain-Lightning> You'll get less overhead, but I'm not sure if MCLawls has a mono version.
#1757 [15:34] <skope> i've done a lot of work with windows servers
#1758 [15:34] <skope> and i damn hate them
#1759 [15:34] <Replayed> But www.hostgator.com = 15$ a month
#1760 [15:34] <Captain-Lightning> *MCLawl
#1761 [15:34] <xales> Replayed: The cheapest option will not work
#1762 [15:34] <veffect_minecraft> can sum1 help me
#1763 [15:34] <Replayed> Why ?
#1764 [15:34] <veffect_minecraft> :s
#1765 [15:34] <Replayed> I can't do it ?
#1766 [15:34] <Replayed> with mclawl ?
#1767 [15:34] <xales> Replayed: For that many people, you need a powerful server
#1768 [15:34] <xales> That costs a lot of money
#1769 [15:35] <skope> what?
#1770 [15:35] <veffect_minecraft> i could host it for a while i spose?
#1771 [15:35] <Captain-Lightning> <xales> Replayed: For that many people, with decent performance, you need a powerful server
#1772 [15:35] <Captain-Lightning> Fixed that for you.
#1773 [15:35] <Replayed> Oh.
#1774 [15:35] <skope> 12 people isn't nothing
#1775 [15:35] <skope> :P
#1776 [15:35] <skope> even for mc server
#1777 [15:35] <xales> Captain-Lightning: With 1GB of RAM, the box would shit itself with less :P
#1778 [15:35] <Replayed> Mclawl transfares like 120kb a second.
#1779 [15:35] <Replayed> if it's 12/12
#1780 [15:35] <xales> rather, with that many eople
#1781 [15:35] <Captain-Lightning> Wait a minute
#1782 [15:35] <xales> Replayed: The internet connection isnt' the issue
#1783 [15:35] <Captain-Lightning> MCLawl
#1784 [15:35] <xales> the RAM is
#1785 [15:35] <Captain-Lightning> Classic.
#1786 [15:35] <xales> and yeah, that
#1787 [15:35] <Captain-Lightning> People still play classic?
#1788 [15:35] <Replayed> Yeah
#1789 [15:35] <Replayed> Mclawl.
#1790 [15:35] <Replayed> Yes me.
#1791 [15:35] <Captain-Lightning> >_>
#1792 [15:35] <Replayed> I have premium but I love classic.
#1793 [15:35] <veffect_minecraft> stfu about mclawl ffs
#1794 [15:36] <veffect_minecraft> lol
#1795 [15:36] <Replayed> xD.
#1796 [15:36] <Replayed> But 1 thing.
#1797 [15:36] <Replayed> I have to open .exe
#1798 [15:36] <Replayed> on Mclawl.
#1799 [15:36] <Replayed> to run server.
#1800 [15:36] <Replayed> Mclawl.exe
#1801 [15:36] <xales> You could probably run it with mono
#1802 [15:36] <Replayed> if I don't open it server won't run.
#1803 [15:36] <Replayed> Mono ?
#1804 [15:36] <xales> Otherwise you'd end up spending $100+/month on a Windows server
#1805 [15:36] <Replayed> That's linux ?
#1806 [15:36] <Replayed> Oh
#1807 [15:36] <xales> Mono lets you run .NET framework applications on Linux
#1808 [15:36] <Replayed> What is a Mono ?
#1809 [15:36] <xales> ...sort of
#1810 [15:36] <veffect_minecraft> can somone help me with my issues?
#1811 [15:36] <Captain-Lightning> Argh
#1812 [15:36] <Replayed> Oooh
#1813 [15:37] <Captain-Lightning> xales beat me to the explanation.
#1814 [15:37] <Replayed> I don't have linux.
#1815 [15:37] <Replayed> Is there any Mono hosting ?
#1816 [15:37] <xales> Replayed: But the server would run Linux
#1817 [15:37] <Replayed> Hmm
#1818 [15:37] <xales> Replayed: You would buy a server, to run it on, which is just another computer
#1819 [15:37] * Captain-Lightning retreats back into his code cavern
#1819 [15:37] <Replayed> Oh ok.
#1820 [15:37] <Captain-Lightning> I think you guys have this handled.
#1821 [15:37] <skope> code cavern is nice
#1822 [15:37] <Replayed> Do you know a good Mono hosting server ?
#1823 [15:37] <skope> i have 5 months of free time now
#1824 [15:37] <xales> Replayed: What you want is a Linux server
#1825 [15:37] <skope> it means so damn much coding, that i gotta buy three more keyboards
#1826 [15:38] <xales> which you have to install Mono on
#1827 [15:38] <Replayed> Linux server.
#1828 [15:38] <Replayed> How do I get one ?
#1829 [15:38] <Captain-Lightning> MCLawl is mono compatible
#1830 [15:38] <xales> but if you don't have experience with Linux servers, I recommend finding a friend who knows what to do to set it up for you
#1831 [15:38] <Captain-Lightning> Just checked
#1832 [15:38] <veffect_minecraft> ok you lot are arsholes XD
#1833 [15:38] <Replayed> Are there any hosting companies ?
#1834 [15:38] <Replayed> For Mono Servers.
#1835 [15:38] <Replayed> I'll google it.
#1836 [15:38] <xales> Once again, you do not want "Mono server"
#1837 [15:38] <Captain-Lightning> There is no such thing as a mono server.
#1838 [15:38] <xales> A server is just a computer
#1839 [15:38] <xales> that you have access to
#1840 [15:38] <skope> yeah
#1841 [15:38] <xales> Mono is a program you install on the server
#1842 [15:39] <Replayed> Linux server.
#1843 [15:39] <skope> i prefer debian
#1844 [15:39] <Replayed> Yeah. .NET framework.
#1845 [15:39] <skope> use it
#1846 [15:39] <xales> Replayed: http://allgamer.net/
#1847 [15:39] <Captain-Lightning> Arch > Debian
#1848 [15:39] <Captain-Lightning> >:D
#1849 [15:39] <Replayed> Ok.
#1850 [15:39] <skope> arch is nice too
#1851 [15:39] <skope> but not in server ;)
#1852 [15:39] <Replayed> Howmuch per month ?
#1853 [15:39] <Captain-Lightning> Point taken.
#1854 [15:39] <veffect_minecraft> Minecraft > porn
#1855 [15:39] <veffect_minecraft> XD
#1856 [15:39] <skope> veffect_minecraft: well said
#1857 [15:39] <Captain-Lightning> Minecraft Porn > Minecraft
#1858 [15:39] <xales> Replayed: How many people do you want on it?
#1859 [15:39] <skope> i wank always when playing mc
#1860 [15:40] <Replayed> 10
#1861 [15:40] <Replayed> Around 10 or 12.
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#1863 [15:40] <veffect_minecraft> can sum1 help me ?
#1864 [15:40] <xales> Around $40/$60-month
#1865 [15:40] <Replayed> Woww.
#1866 [15:40] <veffect_minecraft> i cant hit that fking login button :(
#1867 [15:40] <veffect_minecraft> or type anything :S
#1868 [15:40] <xales> veffect_minecraft: You have a fucked up Windows install, which is a bit outside of the scope of what we can help with
#1869 [15:40] <Replayed> But I saw some VPS
#1870 [15:40] <Replayed> 15$ a month.
#1871 [15:40] <Replayed> On hostgator.com
#1872 [15:40] <xales> Replayed: Again, it would not be powerful enough
#1873 [15:40] <Replayed> are they good ?
#1874 [15:40] <Replayed> Oh ok.
#1875 [15:40] <Replayed> But look remember
#1876 [15:40] <veffect_minecraft> its windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
#1877 [15:40] <veffect_minecraft> :s
#1878 [15:40] <Replayed> it's a classic server.
#1879 [15:40] <xales> The problem is that you need a powerful server for that many people
#1880 [15:41] <xales> it doesn't matter
#1881 [15:41] <Captain-Lightning> skope, are you suggesting that the rest of us don't?
#1882 [15:41] <skope> i don't know about others wanking habits
#1883 [15:41] <Replayed> My computer isn't powerful and I handle them with Windows + using proxy to open ports.
#1884 [15:41] <skope> but it's always nice to hear
#1885 [15:41] <veffect_minecraft> XD
#1886 [15:41] <veffect_minecraft> replayed
#1887 [15:41] <Replayed> Yes
#1888 [15:41] <Captain-Lightning> Always nice to hear about other people's masturbation schedules?
#1889 [15:41] <veffect_minecraft> if you really need to i can host it
#1890 [15:42] <Replayed> Howmuch a month ?
#1891 [15:42] <veffect_minecraft> free
#1892 [15:42] <Replayed> 12/12 classic server.
#1893 [15:42] <veffect_minecraft> for like a week
#1894 [15:42] <Replayed> 24/7 ? :)
#1895 [15:42] <veffect_minecraft> cos my mum is cancling my internet
#1896 [15:42] <veffect_minecraft> yes
#1897 [15:42] <veffect_minecraft> i should imagine so
#1898 [15:42] <Replayed> Wow, I would love that.
#1899 [15:42] <Replayed> But you need Mys(kiu)L files, etc ?
#1900 [15:42] <veffect_minecraft> i have a powerfull comp
#1901 [15:42] <Replayed> Nice.
#1902 [15:43] <veffect_minecraft> 8gb ddr3 ram amd athlon || x4
#1903 [15:43] <Replayed> How can I find the MyS(KIU)L files in my pc.
#1904 [15:43] <veffect_minecraft> 3ghz
#1905 [15:43] <Replayed> I'am using 5.5 version.
#1906 [15:43] <Replayed> Wow coolveff.
#1907 [15:43] <veffect_minecraft> only cost me £270
#1908 [15:43] <veffect_minecraft> XD
#1909 [15:43] <Replayed> How can I make it that more then 1 computer is hosting my server.
#1910 [15:43] <skope> i had 2,8GHz P4, 2G memory, radeon 9600XT last month
#1911 [15:44] <skope> now i have little bit better
#1912 [15:44] <Replayed> For example I have a friend, he wants to help me hosting on his pc.
#1913 [15:44] <veffect_minecraft> skope you need to be shot
#1914 [15:44] <Replayed> How can I let him host it also ?
#1915 [15:44] <xales> Replayed: It's not possible to do that
#1916 [15:44] <Captain-Lightning> Is there a reason you keep doing that?
#1917 [15:44] <veffect_minecraft> a p4!?!?!?
#1918 [15:44] <Captain-Lightning> *MySQL
#1919 [15:45] <Replayed> Yes.
#1920 [15:45] <veffect_minecraft> a single core cpu and 2gb ram
#1921 [15:45] <Replayed> My Q doesn't work.
#1922 [15:45] <skope> veffect_minecraft: howso :(
#1923 [15:45] <veffect_minecraft> man thats stupid
#1924 [15:45] <Replayed> that's why I say kiu
#1925 [15:45] <skope> p4 is oldschool
#1926 [15:45] <veffect_minecraft> i know
#1927 [15:45] <Replayed> I'am using MySQL 5.5
#1928 [15:45] <skope> it was from 2003 or so
#1929 [15:45] <Replayed> But I can't see files on my pc.
#1930 [15:45] <skope> mysql sucks ass in bigger development
#1931 [15:45] <skope> use mongodb
#1932 [15:45] <Replayed> Can I also host it on 000webhost ?
#1933 [15:45] <xales> Replayed: No
#1934 [15:45] <Captain-Lightning> No.
#1935 [15:45] <Replayed> they have MySQL
#1936 [15:45] <Replayed> Why ?
#1937 [15:45] <veffect_minecraft> i can get mysql
#1938 [15:45] <xales> That is not a server
#1939 [15:45] <veffect_minecraft> i use xamPP
#1940 [15:45] <Captain-Lightning> They cannot run applications in the background.
#1941 [15:45] <Replayed> Oh.
#1942 [15:46] <Replayed> So I need a VPS
#1943 [15:46] <Captain-Lightning> Yes.
#1944 [15:46] <xales> Or a dedicated server, yes
#1945 [15:46] <Replayed> http://www.server4you.com/ free vps 6 month.
#1946 [15:46] <Replayed> Is that good ? for a classic server.
#1947 [15:46] <Captain-Lightning> If you think a pentium 4 is impressive
#1948 [15:46] <Captain-Lightning> Then you should worship me ;D
#1949 [15:47] <xales> Replayed: Can you give me a direct link?
#1950 [15:47] <Replayed> Sure.
#1951 [15:47] * Captain-Lightning lifts his Phenom II x6 to the light
#1951 [15:47] <Replayed> http://www.server4you.com/vserver/
#1952 [15:47] <Replayed> Free 6 month hosting.
#1953 [15:47] <Replayed> VPS.
#1954 [15:47] <veffect_minecraft> captin
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#1956 [15:47] <skope> i have hosting from there
#1957 [15:47] <veffect_minecraft> you mean
#1958 [15:47] <veffect_minecraft> WE
#1959 [15:47] <xales> Replayed: No, that's a cloud server
#1960 [15:47] <xales> which will not work well for Minecraft
#1961 [15:47] <veffect_minecraft> as i have a phenom :)
#1962 [15:47] <Replayed> Oh.
#1963 [15:47] <skope> Replayed: but you need to order 1 year
#1964 [15:48] <xales> veffect_minecraft: x6 > x4 :P
#1965 [15:48] <skope> and it's ~50 euros
#1966 [15:48] <Replayed> Yeah.
#1967 [15:48] <Replayed> :(
#1968 [15:48] <Replayed> Cloud server isn't good ?
#1969 [15:48] <xales> Captain-Lightning: 1100t?
#1970 [15:48] <xales> Replayed: Not for Minecraft, it's not
#1971 [15:48] <Replayed> Oh ok.
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#1973 [15:48] <Replayed> Thank you.
#1974 [15:48] <xales> Replayed: https://allgamer.net/virtualservers/
#1975 [15:48] <veffect_minecraft> x6 < x4
#1976 [15:48] <veffect_minecraft> for 1 reason
#1977 [15:48] <veffect_minecraft> lol
#1978 [15:48] <xales> veffect_minecraft: Actually, no, lol
#1979 [15:48] <Replayed> Look
#1980 [15:48] <Replayed> https://allgamer.net/gameservers/
#1981 [15:49] <Captain-Lightning> 1090, xales.
#1982 [15:49] <Replayed> Game servers Minecraft.
#1983 [15:49] <Replayed> But it's out of stock.
#1984 [15:49] <xales> veffect_minecraft: the Phenom x6 is on a different core than the x4s and it has a faster clock speed and the vcore thing...so...
#1985 [15:49] <xales> :P
#1986 [15:49] <xales> Replayed: They don't do Classic hosting any more
#1987 [15:49] <Replayed> Oh
#1988 [15:49] <xales> You would have to get a VPS and do it yourself
#1989 [15:49] <Replayed> Ok.,
#1990 [15:49] <Replayed> They do the setup for me ?
#1991 [15:49] <xales> And again, if you don't know how to run a Linux server, find someone who does _before_ you buy it
#1992 [15:49] <xales> no, they dont'
#1993 [15:49] <xales> You have to do all setup
#1994 [15:49] <skope> they install the os
#1995 [15:50] <skope> and that's it
#1996 [15:50] <Replayed> Oh ok.
#1997 [15:50] <Captain-Lightning> Honestly, Replayed, I think setting up and managing a server may be out of your league.
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#1999 [15:50] <skope> well if you want to install mc server
#2000 [15:50] <veffect_minecraf> gahh
#2001 [15:50] <Captain-Lightning> Look for a specifically minecraft server hosting providor.
#2002 [15:50] <xales> ^
#2003 [15:50] <skope> i forgot what i had to say
#2004 [15:50] <veffect_minecraf> ill brb
#2005 [15:50] <veffect_minecraf> gtg restart
#2006 [15:50] <Replayed> Ok.
#2007 [15:51] <Replayed> What package is good ?
#2008 [15:51] <Replayed> for 10 people.
#2009 [15:51] <Replayed> Classic server.
#2010 [15:51] <Replayed> Basic ?
#2011 [15:51] <xales> Replayed: You should find something else
#2012 [15:51] <xales> not a VPS
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#2014 [15:51] <Flamechains> hey
#2015 [15:51] <xales> because you will have to do setup yourself
#2016 [15:51] <xales> Hello Flamechains
#2017 [15:51] <Replayed> Yes :(
#2018 [15:51] <xales> Replayed: Find a "Mclawl host"
#2019 [15:51] <Flamechains> i need some serius help
#2020 [15:51] <xales> Flamechains: With?
#2021 [15:51] <Replayed> Ok.
#2022 [15:51] <skope> it's not that hard to learn to do some basic linux administration
#2023 [15:51] <Flamechains> i just saw herobrine
#2024 [15:51] <Replayed> I will search for that.
#2025 [15:51] <skope> :P
#2026 [15:51] * xales kicked Flamechains from #minecrafthelp (Reason: No, you didn't)
#2027 [15:51] <bildramer> no you didn't
#2028 [15:52] <bildramer> fuck.
#2029 [15:52] <skope> what's up with that line?
#2030 [15:52] <bildramer> now that was a quality ninja
#2031 [15:52] <Captain-Lightning> http://www.minecraftvps.net/
#2032 [15:52] <skope> does it get me kicked?
#2033 [15:52] <Captain-Lightning> http://www.servercraft.co/pricing/
#2034 [15:52] <Replayed> I'll check them.
#2035 [15:52] <Captain-Lightning> You may have to ask specifically for MCLawl, if you want it.
#2036 [15:53] <Replayed> Minecraftvps has no classic.
#2037 [15:53] <Replayed> :(
#2038 [15:53] <Replayed> Yeah.
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#2040 [15:53] <Replayed> But there are no Mclawl hosting servers.
#2041 [15:53] <Flamechains> kick me?
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#2043 [15:53] <xales> Flamechains: Trolling?
#2044 [15:53] <Flamechains> i can prove i took a print screen
#2045 [15:53] <skope> i should start some minecraft vps selling company
#2046 [15:53] <Replayed> Even MCLawl is a .tk domain which is free.
#2047 [15:53] <skope> would anyone buy it?
#2048 [15:53] <Replayed> Yeah, if it's classic.
#2049 [15:53] * xales kicked Flamechains from #minecrafthelp (Reason: That's nice, go away.)
#2050 [15:53] <skope> ban him
#2051 [15:54] <xales> I am having fun
#2052 [15:54] <xales> >:|
#2053 [15:54] <skope> kick is not an invite
#2054 [15:54] <skope> noob-ball <3
#2055 [15:54] <xales> next time will be a ban though
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#2057 [15:54] <xales> I need time to come up with witty ban message
#2058 [15:54] <Replayed> Like Team9000 is 24/7 with 150 slots.
#2059 [15:54] <Replayed> Howmuch they pay ?
#2060 [15:55] <NotiCon> xales: his face?
#2061 [15:55] <xales> Replayed: Probably several hundred dollars a month
#2062 [15:55] <Captain-Lightning> It specifically says in the first paragraph that they will host either smp or classic servers, Replayed.
#2063 [15:55] <Replayed> Wow.
#2064 [15:55] <Replayed> http://www.minecraftvps.net/
#2065 [15:55] <Replayed> Yeah
#2066 [15:55] <Replayed> Thank you captain.
#2067 [15:55] <Replayed> I'am searching that site.
#2068 [15:56] <Replayed> Runecraft ? and bukkitcraft
#2069 [15:56] <Replayed> Those are like Mclawl ?
#2070 [15:56] <xales> No
#2071 [15:56] <Replayed> What are they exactly ?
#2072 [15:57] <xales> They are mods for beta
#2073 [15:57] <Replayed> Oh
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#2075 [15:57] <Replayed> I understand, thank you.
#2076 [15:57] <veffect_minecraft> back
#2077 [15:57] <veffect_minecraft> :)
#2078 [15:57] <veffect_minecraft> i think i know why no
#2079 [15:57] <veffect_minecraft> w
#2080 [15:57] <w> hm?
#2081 [15:57] <veffect_minecraft> i dont have netframework 4 :(
#2082 [15:57] <xales> Minecraft doesn't use the .NET framework
#2083 [15:58] <veffect_minecraft> ? :S
#2084 [15:58] <NotiCon> minecraft uses JAVA
#2085 [15:58] <NotiCon> :(
#2086 [15:58] <veffect_minecraft> are you taking the piss?
#2087 [15:58] <NotiCon> wnba
#2088 [15:58] <NotiCon> what piss*
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#2090 [15:59] <veffect_minecraft> ...
#2091 [15:59] <w> Minecraft is written in Java, one of the most popular programming languages in use, released in 1995 by Sun Microsystems.
#2092 [15:59] <Replayed> Ok, I have sent them a message.
#2093 [15:59] <xales> w: Most popular? lol
#2094 [16:00] <Replayed> Thank you guys.
#2095 [16:00] <w> xales: I'm just reading off enwp
#2096 [16:00] <Replayed> For your awesome support.
#2097 [16:00] <veffect_minecraft> when i open minecraft
#2098 [16:00] <veffect_minecraft> it like crashed
#2099 [16:00] <veffect_minecraft> crashes
#2100 [16:00] <veffect_minecraft> i cant click anything
#2101 [16:00] <Captain-Lightning> I really hate Java.
#2102 [16:00] <w> xales: Wikipedia's source says second, C → Java → C++ → PHP
#2103 [16:00] <Captain-Lightning> I think I may be forced into learning it at some point though.
#2104 [16:01] <xales> veffect_minecraft: Again, that's outside the scope of what we can help with. It's a screwed up windows install
#2105 [16:01] <veffect_minecraft> no its not
#2106 [16:01] <veffect_minecraft> -.-
#2107 [16:01] <Captain-Lightning> Bullshit, C is more popular than C++?!
#2108 [16:01] <w> http://www.langpop.com/
#2109 [16:01] <Captain-Lightning> Oh right, all the old timers haven't died off yet.
#2110 [16:01] <xales> Captain-Lightning: For low-level things
#2111 [16:01] <xales> Windows itself, etc
#2112 [16:01] <Captain-Lightning> Juuuuuust kidding.
#2113 [16:01] <w> And this source says #1 http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
#2114 [16:01] <veffect_minecraft> i know for a fact windows install isnt fucked
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#2116 [16:02] <xales> veffect_minecraft: It is, in fact
#2117 [16:02] <Captain-Lightning> I have never heard of Rexx.
#2118 [16:02] <veffect_minecraft> i only installed it 4 hours ago
#2119 [16:02] <Drebraxas> Can someone tell me why i havent gotten premium when i have payd for it?
#2120 [16:02] <xales> veffect_minecraft: you are probably missing a driver then
#2121 [16:02] <xales> Drebraxas: How long ago did you pay for it?
#2122 [16:02] <Captain-Lightning> How long ago, Drebraxas?
#2123 [16:02] <Captain-Lightning> Why, xales, why?
#2124 [16:02] <veffect_minecraft> driver for what??
#2125 [16:02] <Drebraxas> around a hour
#2126 [16:02] <Captain-Lightning> Third time today!
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#2128 [16:03] <xales> veffect_minecraft: Anything on your computer? :P
#2129 [16:03] <Captain-Lightning> It takes some time, if you haven't gotten it by tomorrow come back.
#2130 [16:03] <veffect_minecraft> i have install all drives
#2131 [16:03] <w> Well, if it's a new install, you won't have the Java runtime environment, surely
#2132 [16:03] <veffect_minecraft> that i was given
#2133 [16:03] <Captain-Lightning> Ocaml, Forth, Rexx, and Scala are all new to me
#2134 [16:03] <veffect_minecraft> and w i installed it
#2135 [16:03] <xales> veffect_minecraft: Then you have something that is missing
#2136 [16:03] <Drebraxas> My friends did get in 5-10 minutes and ill have to wait... what about my money?
#2137 [16:04] <w> veffect_minecraft: could you check? https://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
#2138 [16:04] <xales> Drebraxas: You just have to wait, sometimes it takes longer
#2139 [16:04] <Drebraxas> kk and what if i do not get it by tomorrow?
#2140 [16:04] <xales> come back here
#2141 [16:04] <Drebraxas> kk
#2142 [16:05] <w> (as I side note, does anyone know the ubuntu package for java?)
#2143 [16:05] <veffect_minecraft> java has uninstalled it self -.-
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#2145 [16:06] <w> veffect_minecraft: https://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp
#2146 [16:06] <Replayed> I want to ask
#2147 [16:06] <veffect_minecraft> i know -.-
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#2149 [16:07] <veffect_minecraft> wow!
#2150 [16:08] <veffect_minecraft> i just installed it
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#2155 [16:11] <Kealper> just got back from the hock shop....
#2156 [16:11] <skope> hock?
#2157 [16:11] <Kealper> they had a .22 sniper rifle....
#2158 [16:12] <Kealper> i want it...lol
#2159 [16:12] <Kealper> uh...more commonly known as a pawn shop
#2160 [16:12] <xales> lol
#2161 [16:12] <xales> Kealper: .22?
#2162 [16:13] <xales> that's not big enough!
#2163 [16:13] <xales> :P
#2164 [16:13] <skope> .22 sniper?
#2165 [16:13] <skope> :D
#2166 [16:13] <skope> it's like throwing rocks to enemies
#2167 [16:13] <Kealper> as my dad put it "man, you could plink squirrels a few blocks down with that thing!"
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#2171 [16:14] * Kealper will admit that he comes from a long line of technology-literate rednecks
#2171 [16:14] <veffect_minecraft> hey
#2172 [16:14] <Kealper> rednerds?...lol
#2173 [16:14] <Kealper> hi
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#2175 [16:15] <xales> Kealper: In the words of Woody Harrelson, "Thank god for rednecks!"
#2176 [16:15] <Kealper> lol
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#2178 [16:17] <Kealper> man, i wish i checked who made the thing....it totally looked like it was going to be like a .50 caliber...but when i looked at the end of the barrel i was like "...wut?"
#2179 [16:19] <xales> Kealper: bread is helping me set up Arch linux with bread-sexy 1.1
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#2181 [16:19] * g slaps Kealper around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout.
#2181 [16:19] <g> Kealper: http://obsidian.pearsoncoles.com
#2182 [16:19] <g> wait no
#2183 [16:19] <bread> \o/
#2184 [16:19] <skope> why unreasonably?
#2185 [16:20] <g> Kealper: http://obsidian.pearsoncoles.com:8085
#2186 [16:20] <Kealper> dare i ask what bread-sexy 1.1 is? lol
#2187 [16:20] <bread> YES
#2188 [16:20] <g> go to that
#2189 [16:20] <xales> Kealper: bread's epic theming skill
#2190 [16:20] <g> shit bricks
#2191 [16:20] <Kealper> g: protocol?
#2192 [16:20] <g> http
#2193 [16:20] <Kealper> http?
#2194 [16:20] <bread> Kealper: this is bread-sexy 1.1 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21802312/DESKTOPS/space1/Screenshot00.png
#2195 [16:20] <aetherian> uh oh
#2196 [16:20] <bread> 8D
#2197 [16:20] <skope> holy shit
#2198 [16:20] <skope> do you got that as 1900x1200?
#2199 [16:20] <bread> the wallpaper?
#2200 [16:21] <bread> er lemme see what it is lol
#2201 [16:21] <Kealper> that's.....minimalistic....lol
#2202 [16:21] <Kealper> bread: did you make that yourself?
#2203 [16:21] <xales> Kealper: It's surprisingly not though
#2204 [16:21] <xales> it's _clean_
#2205 [16:21] <xales> lol
#2206 [16:21] <xales> not minimalistic
#2207 [16:21] <Kealper> can it has icons?
#2208 [16:21] <bread> skope: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21802312/space.jpg
#2209 [16:21] <xales> Kealper: that's another application, and it's a waste of valuable sexy background
#2210 [16:21] <xales> :P
#2211 [16:21] <Kealper> lol
#2212 [16:22] <skope> bread: i love you man
#2213 [16:22] <skope> thanks
#2214 [16:22] <aetherian> bread: did you make it from scratch?
#2215 [16:22] <xales> bread: show him the rightclick
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#2217 [16:22] <skope> that goes to my background, is that ok?
#2218 [16:22] <bread> I didn't make it lol
#2219 [16:22] <bread> aetherian: not entirely. Both GTK+ and Openbox theme I heavily modified
#2220 [16:22] <xales> Kealper: you launch applications in a way Windows users can't even concieve, it's taht awesome :P
#2221 [16:22] <bread> but the 'panel' is my own creation
#2222 [16:22] <bread> Kealper: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21802312/DESKTOPS/space1/Screenshot01.png
#2223 [16:22] <aetherian> make one from scratch :D
#2224 [16:23] <bread> too lazy
#2225 [16:23] <bread> lol
#2226 [16:23] <aetherian> bum
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#2228 [16:23] <bread> This took me like a whole day
#2229 [16:23] <Kealper> lol
#2230 [16:23] <aetherian> only one day :o
#2231 [16:23] <bread> but the _whole_ day
#2232 [16:23] <bread> like from the time I woke up, until evening
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#2234 [16:24] <Kealper> all those windows are getting in the way of that background :<
#2235 [16:24] <bread> lol
#2236 [16:24] <bread> gotta have a clean and dirty screenshot
#2237 [16:25] <aetherian> I was never a fan of a "panel" being on the top
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#2239 [16:26] <Kealper> is that music player a CLI app? lol
#2240 [16:26] <bread> yeah lol
#2241 [16:26] <bread> ncmpcpp
#2242 [16:26] <bread> (horrible name!
#2243 [16:26] <bread> )
#2244 [16:27] <Kealper> lol
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#2246 [16:27] <Tetyys> Hello
#2247 [16:27] <Kealper> hi
#2248 [16:27] * Kealper has no idea how to make a CLI program like that....
#2248 [16:28] * Kealper doesn't know how to clear individual lines or the whole screen in a console window
#2248 [16:28] <bread> oh I didn't write that
#2249 [16:28] <Tetyys> Cli?
#2250 [16:28] <bread> lol
#2251 [16:28] <_303> ncmpcpp <3
#2252 [16:28] <Kealper> i figured you didn't write it lol
#2253 [16:28] * bread is no programmer lol
#2253 [16:28] <bread> I just maek themes
#2254 [16:28] <Kealper> because if any sane person made that, they would have picked a human-readable name >.>
#2255 [16:28] <aetherian> I s'pose bread is more of an artist :o
#2256 [16:29] <bread> well Kealper
#2257 [16:29] <Kealper> and Tetyys CLI is Command Line Interface....nerd stuff, disregard me
#2258 [16:29] <bread> it's an improved version of ncmpc
#2259 [16:29] * Kealper dies a bit inside
#2259 [16:29] <bread> which is ncurses mpc
#2260 [16:29] * Tetyys is vb.net progrmmer
#2260 [16:29] <bread> media player client
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#2262 [16:29] <aetherian> hehehe, vb
#2263 [16:30] <Kealper> ncurses media player client ++? lol
#2264 [16:30] <bread> basically lol
#2265 [16:30] <Kealper> fair enough
#2266 [16:30] <Kealper> still a horrible name :P
#2267 [16:30] * Tetyys hates c++ because its hard
#2267 [16:30] <bread> oh yes it is a horrible name still
#2268 [16:30] * Kealper lines C and C++ because they are fast as crap
#2268 [16:30] <bread> I have it aliased to 'nc' lol
#2269 [16:30] <Kealper> likes*
#2270 [16:31] <Kealper> but alas.... /me doesn't know them hardly at all
#2271 [16:31] <bread> heh
#2272 [16:31] <bread> all I know is bash
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#2274 [16:31] <Kealper> i can make advanced Hello Worlds in C :o
#2275 [16:31] <aetherian> like
#2276 [16:31] <aetherian> generates 3d models of worlds and says in audio "hello"
#2277 [16:31] <aetherian> :O
#2278 [16:32] <bread> lol
#2279 [16:32] * Tetyys hacks hungarian pages
#2279 [16:33] <Kealper> no...like...my knowledge is basically...CLI only...and can read input, and display output..and do some simple math....lol
#2280 [16:33] <Kealper> oh, and make functions that accept stuff from parameters... \o/
#2281 [16:33] <xales> Kealper: what about n parameters?
#2282 [16:33] <bread> aw yeah
#2283 [16:33] <xales> using the ... operator?
#2284 [16:33] <xales> lol
#2285 [16:33] * Kealper hangs his head and goes back to AutoIt
#2285 [16:33] <xales> (protip: DO NOT EVER DO THIS)
#2286 [16:33] <Kealper> xales: C can do n parameters?
#2287 [16:34] <xales> yes
#2288 [16:34] <Kealper> o.o
#2289 [16:34] <xales> but it's a hack
#2290 [16:34] <xales> and you should never do it
#2291 [16:34] <Kealper> oh lol
#2292 [16:34] <xales> (hint: printf)
#2293 [16:34] <aetherian> AutoIt, AI, /artificial/ intelligence
#2294 [16:34] <bread> haxx0r
#2295 [16:34] * Tetyys thinks that maths sux spam forum whole 4 h rulz
#2295 [16:34] <aetherian> :D
#2296 [16:34] <Kealper> anywho
#2297 [16:35] <Kealper> time to hit up the MSDN library documentation to figure out how to clear a console window
#2298 [16:35] <Tetyys> "cls"
#2299 [16:35] <aetherian> documentation
#2300 [16:35] <aetherian> people actually rtfm nowadays?
#2301 [16:35] <Tetyys> "cls"?
#2302 [16:35] <Kealper> Tetyys: i mean programatically, not through command prompt
#2303 [16:36] <Tetyys> Oh
#2304 [16:36] <Kealper> aetherian: i've always RTFM'd
#2305 [16:36] <aetherian> Kealper: 'twas a joke
#2306 [16:36] <aetherian> a dry joke
#2307 [16:36] <aetherian> but a joke nonetheless
#2308 [16:36] <xales> Kealper: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/99261
#2309 [16:36] <Kealper> very rarely do i ask a stupid question before RTFMing lol
#2310 [16:36] <xales> also, NEVER use system()
#2311 [16:36] <xales> EVER NEVER EVER IF YOU DO IT YOU WILL DIE
#2312 [16:36] <xales> kind of never use
#2313 [16:36] <xales> :|
#2314 [16:36] <bread> system(derp)
#2315 [16:36] <Tetyys> Console.beep makes you rich
#2316 [16:36] <Kealper> yeah, i was going to pull a system("PAUSE"); and found on forums that people HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE that
#2317 [16:37] <Kealper> Console.beep is VB-only :/
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#2319 [16:37] <aetherian> system(whatever) :D
#2320 [16:37] <xales> Kealper: printf("\b"); :)
#2321 [16:37] <Kealper> and is probably a wrapper function for a low level WinAPI call
#2322 [16:37] <Kealper> like...what xales probably just aid
#2323 [16:37] <Kealper> said*
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#2325 [16:37] <Kealper> i couldn't get \b to work :/
#2326 [16:37] * Kealper tries
#2326 [16:38] <Kealper> again, that is
#2327 [16:38] <Tetyys> Del c:/windows/system32
#2328 [16:38] <aetherian> ...
#2329 [16:38] <Kealper> that also only works...in command prompt....which is a program
#2330 [16:38] <xales> del is a program
#2331 [16:38] <xales> :P
#2332 [16:38] <Tetyys> Ikno
#2333 [16:39] <Kealper> will the beep stop if the program exits?
#2334 [16:40] <Tetyys> Process.start("shutdown -s")
#2335 [16:40] <Kealper> i was just going to do int main(){ printf("\b"); return 0; }
#2336 [16:40] <Tetyys> Console.beep?
#2337 [16:40] <xales> Kealper: by the way, guess what function exits windows
#2338 [16:40] <xales> lolol
#2339 [16:40] <xales> err I mean
#2340 [16:40] <xales> what function to shut down the computer
#2341 [16:41] <bread> system(POOP)
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#2343 [16:41] <aetherian> xD
#2344 [16:41] <xales> ExitWindowsEx
#2345 [16:41] <xales> back from 3.1 days
#2346 [16:41] <xales> DERP
#2347 [16:41] <Kealper> probably something dumb like system("SHUTDOWN"); or something
#2348 [16:41] <xales> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa376868%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
#2349 [16:41] <bread> lol windows
#2350 [16:41] <Kealper> really? lol
#2351 [16:41] <xales> Kealper: yes
#2352 [16:41] <xales> :|
#2353 [16:41] <Kealper> lo
#2354 [16:41] <Kealper> lol*
#2355 [16:41] <aetherian> high
#2356 [16:41] <aetherian> lo hi
#2357 [16:41] <bread> lo-fi!
#2358 [16:41] <bread> :D
#2359 [16:42] <xales> also bread
#2360 [16:42] <bread> also me
#2361 [16:42] <Kealper> xales: it didn't beep :|
#2362 [16:43] <xales> Kealper: do you have a pc speaker enabled? :P
#2363 [16:43] <Kealper> yeah
#2364 [16:43] <Kealper> i think it's closing too fast....
#2365 [16:43] <Kealper> because it just sends the \b and then exits :/
#2366 [16:44] * Music sounds better with tetyys
#2366 [16:45] * Kealper puts in a system("PAUSE"); >:D
#2366 [16:45] <Kealper> aaaaannnd....nope, nothin'
#2367 [16:46] <bread> BEEP
#2368 [16:46] <Kealper> laggy beep was laggy
#2369 [16:46] <bread> pacman -S beep
#2370 [16:46] <bread> I made arpeggios with beep
#2371 [16:46] <bread> it was amazing
#2372 [16:46] <skope> arpeggios <3
#2373 [16:46] <Kealper> 'pacman' is not recognized as an internal or external command
#2374 [16:46] <Kealper> :<
#2375 [16:47] <Kealper> (yes, i know, Arch package manager)
#2376 [16:47] <bread> :D
#2377 [16:47] <bread> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21802312/beepsong.sh
#2378 [16:47] <bread> :>
#2379 [16:47] <skope> arch is for people who want packages right now
#2380 [16:47] <skope> ;)
#2381 [16:47] <bread> and I want them right now
#2382 [16:47] <Tetyys> Dir
#2383 [16:47] <skope> that's correct
#2384 [16:47] <bread> I almost started using testing because I wanted new kernel NOW
#2385 [16:47] <bread> not in two days
#2386 [16:47] <skope> i'm more like debian fag
#2387 [16:47] <bread> 8D
#2388 [16:48] <skope> i use stable and backports
#2389 [16:48] <xales> lol bread
#2390 [16:48] <bread> \o/
#2391 [16:49] <Kealper> actually...i think i'm going to figure out how to do console trickery in C instead of AutoIt
#2392 [16:49] <bread> how about E
#2393 [16:49] <Tetyys> |*-*|
#2394 [16:50] <Kealper> >.>
#2395 [16:50] <bread> F
#2396 [16:50] <bread> P++
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#2398 [16:50] <sarvan> hello
#2399 [16:50] <Kealper> hi
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#2401 [16:50] <skope> sup mate
#2402 [16:50] <Tetyys> P++?
#2403 [16:50] <sarvan> mkay i need help
#2404 [16:50] <Tetyys> F#.
#2405 [16:50] <Kealper> with>
#2406 [16:50] <Kealper> ?*
#2407 [16:50] <sarvan> i want to play with my friend, but he keeps getting this error:
#2408 [16:50] <sarvan> ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 30.04.11 22:38 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.5_01 OS: Windows Vista (x86) version 6.0 Java: 1.6.0_24, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM
#2409 [16:51] <Kealper> has it ever worked before?
#2410 [16:51] <sarvan> Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.5_01 OS: Windows Vista (x86) version 6.0 Java: 1.6.0_24, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)] org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.nChoosePixelFor
#2411 [16:51] <sarvan> damnit
#2412 [16:51] <Tetyys> Update your drivers
#2413 [16:51] <sarvan> yes
#2414 [16:51] <Kealper> lol
#2415 [16:51] <Kealper> well, drivers might not be it...
#2416 [16:51] <sarvan> but he goes on dxdiag and it doesnt say anything on drivers
#2417 [16:51] <sarvan> only "Name:"
#2418 [16:51] <Kealper> how old is his computer?
#2419 [16:51] <skope> vista <3
#2420 [16:51] <sarvan> --- END ERROR REPORT 6e5f3715 ----------
#2421 [16:51] <sarvan> he has vista
#2422 [16:51] <aetherian> lool, skope
#2423 [16:51] <Tetyys> Dx - directx
#2424 [16:52] <skope> aetherian: it was a joke ;)
#2425 [16:52] <Tetyys> Update dx
#2426 [16:52] <sarvan> how?
#2427 [16:52] <xales> That's not it
#2428 [16:52] <xales> It's drivers
#2429 [16:52] <Kealper> derp... Minecraft doesn't use DirectX
#2430 [16:52] <xales> or, the cmomputer doesn't support it
#2431 [16:52] <skope> vista is like getting a blowjob from a girl with mouth herpes
#2432 [16:52] <skope> fun at the time, but gets fucked up later
#2433 [16:53] <Kealper> sarvan: can you have your friend come in here?
#2434 [16:53] <sarvan> lol
#2435 [16:53] <Tetyys> Stop playin mc and create real business
#2436 [16:54] <Tetyys> Does mirc on pc haves chat macro?
#2437 [16:54] <Kealper> no idea, i haven't touched mirc in years
#2438 [16:54] <g> Yes it does
#2439 [16:54] <g> aliases
#2440 [16:55] * Tetyys likes spamin forums while playin cs.
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#2441 [16:55] <Jackson413> what is the best software for hosting a minecraft server?
#2442 [16:55] <Jackson413> operating system
#2443 [16:55] <oldtopman> skope: WinSauce
#2444 [16:55] <Kealper> Linux
#2445 [16:55] <Tetyys> Linux
#2446 [16:55] <skope> isn't ther minecraft os?
#2447 [16:56] <Smil3> how to i turn mobs of through "minecraft server programm
#2448 [16:56] <Jackson413> what kind of linus
#2449 [16:56] <Jackson413> linux
#2450 [16:56] <xales> Linux = linux
#2451 [16:56] <bokshead> hi
#2452 [16:56] <bread> arch \o/
#2453 [16:56] <skope> oldtopman: haha thanks
#2454 [16:56] <Kealper> Mine OS is just a stripped down Linux
#2455 [16:56] <xales> Hello bokshead
#2456 [16:56] <sarvan> ok uhm
#2457 [16:56] <sarvan> xales?
#2458 [16:56] <xales> ?
#2459 [16:56] <sarvan> My friend has come here
#2460 [16:56] <sarvan> that one with problems
#2461 [16:56] <Jackson413> can you link me for the Mine OS
#2462 [16:56] <skope> let's fight about debian vs arch
#2463 [16:56] <sarvan> "bokshead"
#2464 [16:56] <skope> in a server
#2465 [16:56] <xales> Jackson413: Can you google?
#2466 [16:56] <Tetyys> Just damn linux...
#2467 [16:56] <xales> bokshead:
#2468 [16:56] <xales> ??> bokshead win/dxdiag
#2469 [16:56] <VoxelHead> bokshead: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2470 [16:56] <bokshead> yeah
#2471 [16:56] <VoxelHead> bokshead: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2472 [16:57] <bokshead> il try
#2473 [16:57] <Tetyys> Fast typying
#2474 [16:58] <Tetyys> Sux
#2475 [16:58] <Tetyys> Cox
#2476 [16:58] <aetherian> ...
#2477 [16:58] <Kealper> less vulgar language please :/
#2478 [16:58] <Smil3> how do u disable monster without editing the server props, for a multiplayer server?
#2479 [16:58] <Kealper> a bit is fine, but there are still occasionally children here
#2480 [16:58] <skope> like me
#2481 [16:58] <Tetyys> Vulgar?
#2482 [16:59] <Kealper> Smil3: you have to edit it
#2483 [16:59] <Smil3> dam
#2484 [16:59] <Kealper> Tetyys: swearing, or other unsavory words....if you wouldn't say it to your boss (or mother) it shouldn't be said in here
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#2486 [16:59] <Smil3> Kealper, do u have to shut down the server?
#2487 [17:00] <Kealper> Smil3: yeah :/
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#2489 [17:00] <Tetyys> I say it to my brother
#2490 [17:00] <Kealper> ok xales....how can i set up a variable in C to get it ready to hold a string?
#2491 [17:00] <bread> string poopfist = "";
#2492 [17:00] <bread> ?
#2493 [17:01] <xales> Kealper:
#2494 [17:01] <xales> string length is defined at compile time
#2495 [17:01] <xales> unless you malloc() it
#2496 [17:01] <xales> string = array
#2497 [17:01] <Jackson413> noob question: is unix an OS?
#2498 [17:01] <xales> array length = static
#2499 [17:01] <xales> Jackson413: sort of
#2500 [17:01] <bread> Jackson413: lol. Yes.
#2501 [17:01] <xales> it's not one _you_ can use, though
#2502 [17:01] <Jackson413> what do you mean sort of
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#2504 [17:01] <bread> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
#2505 [17:01] <Jackson413> why cant _I_ use it?
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#2507 [17:02] <xales> it's not available to the general public/consumers
#2508 [17:02] <bread> because it's older than shit
#2509 [17:02] <bread> and what xales said
#2510 [17:02] <xales> huge companies like AT&T pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in license fees
#2511 [17:02] <xales> which is a bit dumb
#2512 [17:02] <xales> because ATT sort of pays itself
#2513 [17:02] <xales> :|
#2514 [17:02] <bread> lol
#2515 [17:02] <Kealper> lol
#2516 [17:02] <bread> Linux all da way
#2517 [17:02] <aetherian> <3
#2518 [17:02] <Tetyys> Better download it from tpb
#2519 [17:03] <Jackson413> thats what i usually do lol
#2520 [17:03] <Kealper> ehh...useless
#2521 [17:03] <skope> i just drink booze
#2522 [17:03] <skope> and be calm
#2523 [17:03] <Tetyys> Why?
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#2525 [17:03] <Kealper> if you want unix, just get FreeBSD or something
#2526 [17:03] <Underverket> Hi!
#2527 [17:03] <Kealper> if you want better than unix but still sorta like it, get Linux
#2528 [17:03] <Tetyys> Suw
#2529 [17:03] <aetherian> bonjour M. Underverket
#2530 [17:03] <Tetyys> Sup
#2531 [17:04] <skope> linux is ok
#2532 [17:04] <skope> can't find the reason not to use it
#2533 [17:04] <Tetyys> No
#2534 [17:04] <Underverket> I've been playing this game for the whole day, and I have one question. Why does the Gold-pick-axe durability suck?
#2535 [17:04] <aetherian> because it's gold
#2536 [17:04] <skope> cause it's gold
#2537 [17:04] * Kealper uses Windows, but is completely behind what Linux stands for
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#2538 [17:04] <aetherian> gold is not a tough thing
#2539 [17:04] <aetherian> it's... malleable
#2540 [17:04] <Underverket> God Damn
#2541 [17:04] <aetherian> or something
#2542 [17:04] <skope> i use windows in desktop too, cause i need it for music recording
#2543 [17:04] <Tetyys> Couse better sell it
#2544 [17:04] <Underverket> So, why can i use it at the pick axe?
#2545 [17:04] <Kealper> Underverket: it breaks stuff FAST though
#2546 [17:05] <skope> linux doesn't support my interface, and i'm too lazy to code my own
#2547 [17:05] <aetherian> wat
#2548 [17:05] <Tetyys> Wat?
#2549 [17:05] <Kealper> and OSX is probably better at recording stuff than Windows
#2550 [17:05] <Kealper> Windows is really...only good for gaming lol
#2551 [17:06] <aetherian> OSX: the hardest to use unix based OS, amirite?
#2552 [17:06] <xales> it's not good
#2553 [17:06] <xales> games just aren't on any other platform
#2554 [17:06] <xales> >:|
#2555 [17:06] <aetherian> some are
#2556 [17:06] <aetherian> :o
#2557 [17:06] <Kealper> but the majority arn't
#2558 [17:06] <aetherian> dosbox: and what more do you need
#2559 [17:06] <aetherian> :D
#2560 [17:06] <Kealper> which makes it the "best" by default
#2561 [17:07] <Tetyys> Dosbox sux
#2562 [17:07] <Tetyys> On pc.
#2563 [17:07] * aetherian kills Tetyys, not bothering to dispose of the body
#2563 [17:07] <bread> waitwut
#2564 [17:07] * Tetyys dies
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#2565 [17:07] <bread> Kealper: recording, as in audio recording?
#2566 [17:07] <Kealper> anywho... xales...how do i declare one of those char array things...i know the string i will be putting in it will be less than 256 chars long, so a static size is fine
#2567 [17:08] <Kealper> bread: yeah, OSX does quite well at pretty much anything multimedia :/
#2568 [17:08] <xales> Kealper: "char str[256];"
#2569 [17:08] <Tetyys> Virtual box rulz
#2570 [17:08] <Underverket> q#2: I cant open my new Iron door, why? :(
#2571 [17:08] <bread> meh
#2572 [17:08] <bread> I beg to differ, Kealper
#2573 [17:08] <bread> I use 99% FOSS for all my audio production needs
#2574 [17:08] <aetherian> \o/ bread
#2575 [17:08] <bread> also,
#2576 [17:08] <Tetyys> You need those plates on ground
#2577 [17:08] <Kealper> bread: well, i never said it was good with all software :P
#2578 [17:08] <bread> jackd is better than any audio server on OS X
#2579 [17:08] <Kealper> xales: danke sehr
#2580 [17:08] <Underverket> Tetyys: ty
#2581 [17:08] <aetherian> plus, Linux is the best distribution for a dentistry office.
#2582 [17:08] <Tetyys> :)
#2583 [17:09] <Kealper> that bokshead person never did the dxdiag thing, did they?
#2584 [17:09] <bread> lol aetherian
#2585 [17:09] <aetherian> bread: you got it \o/
#2586 [17:09] <Tetyys> Dosbox rulz on symbian
#2587 [17:09] <Kealper> AuBot: give me the title of the last url
#2588 [17:10] <Kealper> nope, he didn't....
#2589 [17:10] <bread> woah
#2590 [17:10] <bread> AuBot: give me a sandwich
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#2592 [17:10] <bread> >:|
#2593 [17:10] <Kealper> lol
#2594 [17:10] <Tetyys> OMG MIDNIGHT AGAIN
#2595 [17:10] * bread eats AuBot
#2595 [17:10] <bread> :D
#2596 [17:10] <aetherian> :O
#2597 [17:10] <Kealper> lol
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#2599 [17:12] <Tetyys> Who lieks spam?
#2600 [17:12] <bread> NOM
#2601 [17:12] <Tetyys> U nom spam?
#2602 [17:13] * Kealper thinks he has this program right
#2602 [17:13] <skope> damn
#2603 [17:13] <skope> i like spam
#2604 [17:13] <xales> Kealper: the compiler will tell you
#2605 [17:13] <skope> give me spam
#2606 [17:13] <xales> also pastebin
#2607 [17:13] <xales> >:|
#2608 [17:13] <Kealper> woohoo! built without errors!
#2609 [17:13] <skope> can i post all of my email addresses here?
#2610 [17:13] <Tetyys> Gmail
#2611 [17:13] <Kealper> xales: no, it's simple and useless and dumb :<
#2612 [17:13] <xales> pastebin
#2613 [17:13] <xales> nao
#2614 [17:13] <xales> lolcat tiem
#2615 [17:13] <xales> >:|
#2616 [17:14] <Tetyys> DAYUM.
#2617 [17:14] <xales> or lolcat tiem*
#2618 [17:14] <Kealper> ugh, fine
#2619 [17:14] <xales> <3
#2620 [17:14] <Tetyys> :3
#2621 [17:14] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com/RcGFkiZa :/
#2622 [17:15] <Tetyys> Is "Extreme neggro" is swearing?
#2623 [17:15] <Kealper> i'm just going through the windows console functions in the MSDN library and messing with them
#2624 [17:15] <xales> Kealper: just one tiny thing
#2625 [17:15] <xales> that doesn't _really_ matter
#2626 [17:15] <xales> but it can really be annoying later
#2627 [17:15] <Kealper> and Tetyys: if you have to ask...then...probably
#2628 [17:15] <xales> API functions, you usually (almost always) tell them, in regards to string length, how much they can fill with string data
#2629 [17:16] <xales> if they use all 256, it is no longer a string
#2630 [17:16] <xales> a string is null-terminated
#2631 [17:16] <xales> and it needs room for the null at the end
#2632 [17:16] <xales> so the string is 256
#2633 [17:16] <Kealper> so it should be 255?
#2634 [17:16] <xales> tell the API 255
#2635 [17:16] <xales> yes
#2636 [17:16] <Kealper> i was wondering about that, but figured for testing it wouldn't matter, as the console's name was not long enough to blow stuff up
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#2638 [17:17] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com/Z9t5ywzs :3
#2639 [17:17] <Tetyys> Is "Extreme neggro" swearing?
#2640 [17:17] <skope> nah
#2641 [17:17] <Kealper> 17:15:43 <@Kealper> and Tetyys: if you have to ask...then...probably
#2642 [17:18] <Tetyys> Woohoo
#2643 [17:18] <Kealper> and you had to ask..so...
#2644 [17:18] <skope> Kealper pastes some serious c
#2645 [17:18] <Kealper> skope: i know right? a whole 10 lines
#2646 [17:18] <xales> skope: want to see some? ._.
#2647 [17:18] <xales> my IRC bot is absurd
#2648 [17:18] <skope> i couldn't ever do anything like that
#2649 [17:18] <skope> xales: give me sources
#2650 [17:18] <xales> it's only 10% protocol 90% scripting
#2651 [17:18] <skope> i'll wank to them
#2652 [17:18] <xales> lol
#2653 [17:18] <Kealper> your head will blow up :/
#2654 [17:18] <xales> xalesbot.sf.net if it still exists
#2655 [17:19] <xales> and that version is only a few months older than my local version
#2656 [17:19] <xales> :P
#2657 [17:19] <bread> no you guys want to see some srs coding
#2658 [17:19] <bread> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21802312/house.sh
#2659 [17:19] <bread> right there
#2660 [17:19] <Kealper> RAAAAAAGE
#2661 [17:19] <skope> where's my editor
#2662 [17:19] <Kealper> dropbox isn't saying it's text/plain for the header :/
#2663 [17:19] <skope> nice to look up things with notepad
#2664 [17:20] <skope> not a single \n
#2665 [17:20] <xales> skope: it has lots of \n
#2666 [17:20] <xales> not \r\n though
#2667 [17:20] <xales> stupid notepad!
#2668 [17:20] * Kealper hates \r\n
#2668 [17:20] <xales> ^
#2669 [17:20] <skope> true
#2670 [17:20] <Tetyys> Use wordpad
#2671 [17:20] <skope> i made a mistake :(
#2672 [17:20] <g> \r\n messes up bamboo bash scripts
#2673 [17:20] <skope> i use notepad++ in windows
#2674 [17:20] <g> it NEEDS to be \n
#2675 [17:20] <skope> real users use vim
#2676 [17:20] <Tetyys> Wordpad rulz
#2677 [17:21] <Kealper> ^
#2678 [17:21] <g> LOL
#2679 [17:21] <g> vim
#2680 [17:21] <skope> but not me, i configure with nano
#2681 [17:21] <g> pssh
#2682 [17:21] <skope> :\
#2683 [17:21] <Kealper> wait, the ^ was for vim
#2684 [17:21] <g> I use nano
#2685 [17:21] <skope> g: word mate
#2686 [17:21] <xales> g: Noob
#2687 [17:21] * Kealper uses vim like a boss
#2687 [17:21] * Tetyys never heard vim
#2687 [17:21] <xales> bread: nano noobs!
#2688 [17:21] <xales> help me!
#2689 [17:21] <xales> :P
#2690 [17:21] * xales uses vim of course
#2690 [17:21] <xales> I don't care about nano
#2691 [17:21] <Kealper> \o/
#2692 [17:21] <xales> as long as you don't use...
#2693 [17:21] <xales> emacs
#2694 [17:21] <xales> :|
#2695 [17:21] <bread> loool
#2696 [17:21] <bread> yay vim
#2697 [17:21] <Tetyys> Ktssss
#2698 [17:22] <Kealper> CodeLite? anyone?
#2699 [17:22] <skope> emacs..
#2700 [17:22] <xales> Kealper: lolno
#2701 [17:22] <Kealper> :<
#2702 [17:22] <xales> GUI editors are
#2703 [17:22] <xales> :|
#2704 [17:22] <bread> lolmacs
#2705 [17:22] <xales> emacs is :<
#2706 [17:22] <Kealper> well i'm on windows so i can't not use a GUI editor
#2707 [17:22] <aetherian> Kealper: NANO
#2708 [17:22] <aetherian> :D
#2709 [17:22] <bread> "Emacs has over 1,000 commands."
#2710 [17:22] <bread> lololoool
#2711 [17:22] <bread> WHY
#2712 [17:22] <Kealper> and i don't want to jack your server's cpu to 120% if i screw something up...so i', not using that lol
#2713 [17:23] <Kealper> i'm*
#2714 [17:23] <skope> i like coding with gui :P
#2715 [17:23] <aetherian> :|
#2716 [17:23] <xales> Kealper: You couldn't hurt it that bad, actually
#2717 [17:23] <xales> I have PAM limits applied to your account
#2718 [17:23] <xales> I think
#2719 [17:23] <bread> \o/
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#2721 [17:23] * Kealper makes a blank while loop
#2721 [17:23] <xales> so you couldn't forkbomb (it would cap at 50 processes) BUT DON'T TRY IT >:|
#2722 [17:23] <Kealper> oh
#2723 [17:24] <xales> or set a process to execute in realtime
#2724 [17:24] <Kealper> yeah, that too...i'd much rather rape my own computer than rape your server
#2725 [17:24] * Tetyys haves 20 ram left
#2725 [17:24] <xales> oh btw bread
#2726 [17:24] <xales> one sec
#2727 [17:24] * Kealper haves 3881 rams left
#2727 [17:24] <skope> damn everyone's coder here
#2728 [17:24] <skope> i'm not used to this
#2729 [17:24] * bread haves 2624 rams left
#2729 [17:25] <skope> i want some support
#2730 [17:25] * Kealper uses a lot of rams :<
#2730 [17:25] <skope> isn't this the support channel?
#2731 [17:25] <bread> lol
#2732 [17:25] <Kealper> skope: indeed it is
#2733 [17:25] <skope> support me, i feel threatened
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#2735 [17:25] <Kealper> skope: learn C! i am!
#2736 [17:25] * Tetyys haves 20 ram left on phone
#2736 [17:25] <skope> i already know it
#2737 [17:25] <skope> like a boss
#2738 [17:25] <Kealper> oh
#2739 [17:25] <Kealper> well then
#2740 [17:25] <skope> well i don't, but wanted to fit ;<
#2741 [17:26] <skope> but i do know it somehow
#2742 [17:26] <Kealper> oh, well then...learn C!
#2743 [17:26] <Kealper> it's easy :o
#2744 [17:26] <skope> i know
#2745 [17:26] <skope> i know the syntax and everything
#2746 [17:26] <Tetyys> C is extreme neggro
#2747 [17:26] <skope> but i'm too drunk to even read irc
#2748 [17:26] <skope> and i'm still awake
#2749 [17:26] <skope> but that's just me
#2750 [17:26] <Kealper> Tetyys: :/
#2751 [17:27] <skope> and i type foreign language fluently
#2752 [17:27] <skope> it's very weird
#2753 [17:27] <Kealper> skope: impressive
#2754 [17:27] <skope> it's not
#2755 [17:27] <skope> i just drink too much
#2756 [17:27] <Kealper> no, i mean that you can speak a second language fluently while drunk
#2757 [17:27] <Tetyys> Limonade?
#2758 [17:27] <skope> :D
#2759 [17:27] <skope> yeah
#2760 [17:27] <Kealper> lol
#2761 [17:27] <skope> but i tend to get too chatty while wasted as h*ll
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#2763 [17:27] <Kealper> lol
#2764 [17:28] <skope> and people are "SHUT THE F*CK UP"
#2765 [17:28] <bread> loool
#2766 [17:28] <Kealper> PeekConsoleInput :o
#2767 [17:28] <skope> see me censoring my own speech
#2768 [17:28] <skope> i don't do it often
#2769 [17:28] <skope> but since there's minors in here, i do it
#2770 [17:28] <skope> i'm a good person ;)
#2771 [17:28] <Kealper> omg...there are so many console functions that can make life easy for console apps
#2772 [17:28] <Tetyys> OMG ITS MIDNIGHT AGAIN AGAIN
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#2774 [17:28] <aetherian> midnight
#2775 [17:28] <Kealper> midnight?
#2776 [17:29] <Tetyys> Yes?
#2777 [17:29] <skope> way over it
#2778 [17:29] <skope> 00:29
#2779 [17:29] <Tetyys> Gmt +2
#2780 [17:29] <xales> Kealper: ever heard of ncurses?
#2781 [17:29] <skope> Tetyys: what country?
#2782 [17:29] <xales> too bad it's support for windows is shittier than shit
#2783 [17:29] <xales> :3
#2784 [17:29] <Kealper> lol
#2785 [17:29] <Tetyys> Lithuania
#2786 [17:29] <bread> ncurses is teh awesome
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#2788 [17:30] <skope> Tetyys: close :)
#2789 [17:30] <Tetyys> Where
#2790 [17:30] <_303> bread: indeed it is
#2791 [17:31] <skope> Tetyys: fin
#2792 [17:31] <Tetyys> Omg
#2793 [17:31] <bread> \o/
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#2795 [17:31] <skope> now i feel like to switching off from windows again
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#2797 [17:32] <skope> i have ubuntu installed tho, but it sucks so much ass
#2798 [17:32] <bread> lolbuntu
#2799 [17:32] <skope> yeah
#2800 [17:32] <skope> exactly
#2801 [17:32] <Kealper> Noobuntu :/
#2802 [17:33] <Tetyys> Lithuania is famous because of suicides.
#2803 [17:33] <xales> "Remember kids, Ubuntu is the African word for 'Can't configure Debian'"
#2804 [17:33] <xales> <3 TD
#2805 [17:33] * Kealper knows of Lithuania by a friend who he played MMOs with
#2805 [17:33] <bread> 8D
#2806 [17:34] <skope> well
#2807 [17:34] <skope> if i may say, it's weird that people don't know countries
#2808 [17:34] * bread installs GNOME3 for shits and giggles
#2808 [17:34] * Tetyys knows finland because of geography lessons
#2808 [17:34] <skope> Tetyys: tell me some
#2809 [17:35] <Tetyys> What
#2810 [17:35] <skope> finnish
#2811 [17:35] <skope> oh
#2812 [17:35] <skope> :DD
#2813 [17:35] <skope> sorry
#2814 [17:35] <skope> my bad man
#2815 [17:35] <Tetyys> ?
#2816 [17:35] <skope> i really should read my lines two times now :)
#2817 [17:35] <skope> i thought you know finnish, not finland
#2818 [17:36] <Tetyys> I can tell you some lihuanian
#2819 [17:36] <Kealper> brb
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#2821 [17:37] <skope> Tetyys: hit me
#2822 [17:37] * Tetyys hits skope
#2822 [17:38] <skope> thanks <3
#2823 [17:38] <Tetyys> Labas, vi
ta means hello, chicken.
#2824 [17:38] <Tetyys> Vista*
#2825 [17:38] <skope> vista
#2826 [17:38] <skope> so chicken = vista?
#2827 [17:38] <Tetyys> Yeah
#2828 [17:39] <Kealper> Windows Chicken....lol
#2829 [17:39] <Tetyys> S with ^
#2830 [17:39] <Tetyys> :D
#2831 [17:39] <LargePrime> I have a bug in SMP, where redstone tourches are not relighting
#2832 [17:39] <LargePrime> is this known?
#2833 [17:39] <Kealper> yes
#2834 [17:40] <Kealper> it started with 1.3, and should be fixed in 1.6
#2835 [17:40] <LargePrime> I thank you. where should i up vote or check status
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#2837 [17:40] <skope> but hmm
#2838 [17:40] <Kealper> well, i'm sure you can find some GetSatisfaction posts on it, but Mojang is aware of the issue
#2839 [17:40] <skope> maps, are those coming in which version?
#2840 [17:41] <Kealper> 1.6
#2841 [17:41] <skope> okay
#2842 [17:41] <LargePrime> ok then. i thanks you
#2843 [17:41] <skope> is there a deadline?
#2844 [17:41] <Kealper> no, 1.6's release date is "when it's done"
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#2846 [17:41] <skope> okay, good to know
#2847 [17:41] <skope> that i don't ask it anymore
#2848 [17:41] <Kealper> it's going to have loads of bugs fixed
#2849 [17:41] <Kealper> Notch is pretty much just going down buglists and fixing them
#2850 [17:41] <skope> yeah
#2851 [17:42] <skope> so i've read
#2852 [17:42] <Tetyys> Did you know that "Bieber" in lithuanian means "di**er"
#2853 [17:42] <genshou> yay, my new world's first wheat farm is started ^^
#2854 [17:43] <genshou> a giant field with setup for floodgate control later, currently mostly empty as I only had 12 seeds <.<
#2855 [17:43] <genshou> I'll try to finish it up after work so I can turn it on :3
#2856 [17:43] <Tetyys> Wbb
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#2858 [17:43] <Kealper> genshou: lol
#2859 [17:44] <bread> <@EllieG> │ I'd be in a lot of trouble if I was allergic to semen.
#2860 [17:44] <bread> 8D
#2861 [17:44] <genshou> note: I've never tried automated farming before, considering it was kinda pointless before 1.5 :P
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#2863 [17:44] <Kealper> bread: oh my
#2864 [17:44] <genshou> byebye :3
#2865 [17:44] <bread> loloolol
#2866 [17:44] <Kealper> genshou: what changed to make it not pointless in 1.5? O.o
#2867 [17:45] <Kealper> RAAAGE
#2868 [17:45] <Kealper> ._.
#2869 [17:48] <Morrolan> Kealper: Prior to 1.5 you didn't got seeds when harvesting wheat with water. Now you do I think.
#2870 [17:48] <Morrolan> Atleast he said that two hours ago or so, didn't try it yet.
#2871 [17:48] <Kealper> oh, fair enough
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#2874 [17:53] <Morrolan> "Cake is slightly less than half a block tall (7/16 of a block), and does not make for a very good staircase"
#2875 [17:53] <Morrolan> ^^
#2876 [17:54] <Kealper> no, no it does not lol
#2877 [17:54] <Kealper> also, people can eat your staircase if you did that :/
#2878 [17:54] <Morrolan> True, would kidna suck. :D
#2879 [17:54] <Morrolan> kinda*
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#2881 [17:55] <Morrolan> Like "Hey, you were mean to me, remember? Guess what? I ate your staircase!" :p
#2882 [17:55] <Kealper> xD
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#2884 [17:59] <Jackson413> does this look legit?
#2885 [17:59] <Jackson413> http://www.invasionservers.com/index.php
#2886 [18:00] <Morrolan> If they have a postal address somewhere then it most likely is.
#2887 [18:00] <Kealper> they spelled a word wrong
#2888 [18:00] <Kealper> they said "if you incounter" when they want "if you encounter"
#2889 [18:01] <Morrolan> "Currently hosting 30 Minecraft servers."
#2890 [18:01] <Morrolan> Well, I guess every hosting company is small in their beginning, but still. ^^
#2891 [18:01] <Morrolan> Might be a bit risky, in case they go, euhm, wait a second
#2892 [18:01] <Kealper> will that place work for a small server? yeah....will it lag if you start to push it? probably...
#2893 [18:02] <Morrolan> In case they go bankrupt.*
#2894 [18:02] <Morrolan> Anyway, they're cheap, so why not.
#2895 [18:02] <Morrolan> Though, 512 mb RAM -> 12 slots?
#2896 [18:03] <Morrolan> Not sure if that's enough. :/
#2897 [18:03] <Morrolan> Jackson: Oh, and I assume you're in Europe?
#2898 [18:04] <Kealper> 12 slots....would LAAAAAAAAAAG on 512MB of ram
#2899 [18:04] <Morrolan> Yep, I guess so.
#2900 [18:04] <Jackson413> nope
#2901 [18:04] <Jackson413> they have an option for US
#2902 [18:04] <Morrolan> Jackson: Their servers are hosted in Europe.
#2903 [18:04] <Kealper> unless they are doing some serious java garbage collection magic
#2904 [18:04] <Morrolan> "e house all of our servers in Europe's most eco-friendly datacenter, Datadock."
#2905 [18:05] <Morrolan> we*
#2906 [18:05] <Jackson413> yeah but there is an option for St.Louis
#2907 [18:05] <Morrolan> Ah, might be a partnership or something similar then.
#2908 [18:05] <Kealper> https://allgamer.net/clients/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=0
#2909 [18:05] * Kealper coughs at the shameless plug
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#2910 [18:06] <Jackson413> $70 for 2gb ram??
#2911 [18:06] <Jackson413> that is horrid
#2912 [18:06] <Kealper> when it comes to hosting...you get what you pay for
#2913 [18:07] <skope> you get what people want you to pay :P
#2914 [18:07] <Kealper> if you pay more, you'll be happy you did if stuff starts to get a lot of track :/
#2915 [18:07] <skope> if you know people, you'll get them cheaper
#2916 [18:07] <Jackson413> damn that is a bit too much
#2917 [18:07] <gPad2002> skope clearly doesn't understand the amount of work that goes into these things
#2918 [18:08] <skope> i've been there
#2919 [18:08] <skope> so i know
#2920 [18:08] <skope> it's still bullshit
#2921 [18:08] <gPad2002> Not to mention the price of electricity :P
#2922 [18:08] <Morrolan> Electricity?
#2923 [18:08] <Kealper> also i just noticed that i said track instead of traffic...i really gotta stop reading something while typing
#2924 [18:09] <gPad2002> Morrolan: That stuff that comes through wires
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#2926 [18:09] <gPad2002> That powers the server
#2927 [18:09] <Kealper> lol...
#2928 [18:09] <gPad2002> :P
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#2930 [18:11] <Shimmer> Can someone help me? If i was to buy a gift code off ebay for Minecraft, is there any way the seller could revoke it in the future?
#2931 [18:11] <Kealper> ehh
#2932 [18:11] <xales> Shimmer: You really can't trust them from anywhere but minecraft.net
#2933 [18:11] <gPad2002> ^
#2934 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Certainly possible.
#2935 [18:11] <Kealper> buying gift codes off ebay is....not recommoneded
#2936 [18:11] <Kealper> bleh, recommended*
#2937 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> http://mojang.com/
#2938 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> "As you may understand we cannot support people who purchase Minecraft from other sites than www.minecraft.net."
#2939 [18:11] <gPad2002> Lol, recommoneded
#2940 [18:12] <Kealper> gPad2002: as i said, i gotta stop reading other things and trying to type lol...it's killing my spelling :/
#2941 [18:12] <gPad2002> :P
#2942 [18:12] <Kealper> and then since i'm not paying attention to what i'm typing, i just press enter without giving it a quick proof read
#2943 [18:12] <Shimmer> alright. thanks. Is there any benefit from buying the game right this second from minecraft.net instead of waiting for the final gold release besides i can play right now?
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#2945 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Shimmer - It's cheaper right now
#2946 [18:12] <Kealper> you get it for 5 euros cheaper
#2947 [18:12] <Shimmer> the $5 saved doesnt really matter to me
#2948 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Then no, there really is no difference.
#2949 [18:13] <Kealper> which is like... ~7 USD, and you get to play it now instead of later this year
#2950 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> You'll have to wait till at least november for the final release
#2951 [18:13] <Shimmer> Ok thanks everyone
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#2958 [18:19] <mib_9cersa> hello guys
#2959 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2960 [18:19] <VDub> what admin mod should i put on my server?
#2961 [18:19] <VDub> an easy one .. is my first server
#2962 [18:19] <Morrolan> VDub: Admin mod?
#2963 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Classic? Beta?
#2964 [18:20] <VDub> beta
#2965 [18:20] <Morrolan> Like, with kick and ban and stuff?
#2966 [18:20] <VDub> yeah ..
#2967 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Would recommend bukkit with either permissions or essentials
#2968 [18:20] <Morrolan> If the default isn't enough you'll have to use bukkit.
#2969 [18:20] <VDub> pssh i dunno how to install bukkit -.-''
#2970 [18:21] <VDub> anyone have team viewer ? and want to help me ?
#2971 [18:21] <Morrolan> VDub: Uh, that's not that hard.
#2972 [18:21] <Morrolan> Gah, textbox is too small again, brb
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#2974 [18:21] <VDub> i tried but .. cant figure it out how to install it
#2975 [18:22] <Morrolan> One day I'll go and look for another IRC client. -.-
#2976 [18:22] <Morrolan> VDub: Where are you stuck at?
#2977 [18:22] <VDub> i think that was an old version .. it ownt even work ..
#2978 [18:23] <Morrolan> http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server
#2979 [18:23] <Morrolan> Did you follow that guide?
#2980 [18:23] <VDub> no :D
#2981 [18:23] <Morrolan> Might want to try it again. ;)
#2982 [18:23] <VDub> i will ^^
#2983 [18:23] <VDub> ill brb .. thank you sir :D
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#2985 [18:26] <SPaRT> can i change the spawnpoint for new players?
#2986 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> With a map editor, sure.
#2987 [18:26] <VDub> good .. now is installed ..
#2988 [18:27] <Morrolan> SPaRT: Depending on which mod and plugins you use you can use ingame commands as well.
#2989 [18:27] <Morrolan> VDub: Okay, now to check that it works. ^^
#2990 [18:27] <SPaRT> ingame without mods?
#2991 [18:28] <Morrolan> SPaRT: You ARE talking about SMP, right?
#2992 [18:28] <VDub> now Morrolan what plugins should i use for a creative server ? its just in lan .. me and a friend of mine
#2993 [18:28] <SPaRT> yep
#2994 [18:28] <Morrolan> VDub: Suggest you ask in #bukkit , I'm not that familiar with their plugins.
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#2996 [18:29] <Morrolan> SPaRT: Well, you'd need bukkit, and a plugin like Essentials or so.
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#2998 [18:29] <SPaRT> :-/
#2999 [18:29] <Morrolan> But if you only need to change it once then a mapeditor is probably easier.
#3000 [18:29] <SPaRT> ok, i thought i've read something about a command but looks like i dreamed that
#3001 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> No vanilla command do change spawn points
#3002 [18:29] <Morrolan> In Vanilla Minecraft is no command for that, sorry.
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#3008 [18:38] <Morrolan> Oerg: How many times do you plan on timing out and connecting again? :D
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#3010 [18:40] <Kealper> yes.
#3011 [18:40] <Kealper> lol
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#3014 [18:43] <Morrolan> Jesus, stop it already. XD
#3015 [18:44] <aetherian> it's just like me back in the day :o
#3016 [18:44] <Kealper> oh god
#3017 [18:44] <aetherian> what
#3018 [18:44] <Kealper> if you thought Oerg866_ was bad.....lol
#3019 [18:44] <aetherian> :D
#3020 [18:45] <Morrolan> Heh, I guess I'm glad aetherian managed to fix this BEFORE I joined this community here. :D
#3021 [18:45] <aetherian> I fixed it
#3022 [18:45] <aetherian> on christmas
#3023 [18:45] <aetherian> when I got a new computer :D
#3024 [18:45] <Morrolan> So it was your computer messing up? How so?
#3025 [18:45] <Oerg866_> I'm so sorry
#3026 [18:46] <Morrolan> No problem. ;)
#3027 [18:46] <aetherian> it was an old breaking laptop
#3028 [18:46] <Oerg866_> but I cant do anyhting about it :<
#3029 [18:46] <Morrolan> Oerg: Does your client crash? Or is your internet connection unstable?
#3030 [18:47] <Kealper> probably just unstable wireless connection or something
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#3036 [19:03] <ALT3RNAT1V3> Would anyone know how to set up Bukkit Esstenials with McMyAdmin?
#3037 [19:03] <ALT3RNAT1V3> I just want to know how to manage the groups
#3038 [19:03] <Morrolan> Might want to ask in #bukkit or #mcmyadmin
#3039 [19:03] <Morrolan> (that's a "sorry, I don't know") :D
#3040 [19:04] <ALT3RNAT1V3> k thanks :)
#3041 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, that's about the best answer we can give.
#3042 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> One of these days, I will install bukkit..
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#3045 [19:12] <Kealper> !check fluffyfro.dyndns.org
#3046 [19:12] <Kealper> disregard that
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#3050 [19:18] <gPad2002> :P
#3051 [19:18] <Govani> :P
#3052 [19:18] <gPad2002> Kealper: So. Build server!
#3053 [19:18] <skope> holy god
#3054 [19:18] <skope> i am wasted as hell
#3055 [19:18] * gPad2002 rubs hands together
#3055 [19:18] <Kealper> gPad2002: wut
#3056 [19:18] <gPad2002> You never went to the link did you :P
#3057 [19:19] <Kealper> the mcpp thing?
#3058 [19:19] <gPad2002> http://obsidian.pearsoncoles.com:8085
#3059 [19:19] <gPad2002> Yeah
#3060 [19:19] <Kealper> yeah
#3061 [19:19] <gPad2002> I had to write q build.sh
#3062 [19:19] <gPad2002> A*
#3063 [19:19] <gPad2002> And I couldn't get it to work
#3064 [19:19] <Kealper> lol
#3065 [19:19] <gPad2002> Then I realised
#3066 [19:19] <gPad2002> Line endings
#3067 [19:19] * gPad2002 fasedesked
#3067 [19:19] <gPad2002> Facedesked*
#3068 [19:20] <gPad2002> I'll work out how to make it do self-tests at some point
#3069 [19:20] <gPad2002> (somehow)
#3070 [19:20] <skope> damn women
#3071 [19:20] <skope> you know guys
#3072 [19:20] <gPad2002> Hmm?
#3073 [19:21] <Kealper> oh boy....
#3074 [19:21] <skope> i don't even start ;)
#3075 [19:21] <skope> i just teased
#3076 [19:21] <Kealper> inb4 "i really love you all"
#3077 [19:21] <Kealper> oh lol
#3078 [19:21] <gPad2002> Lol.
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#3080 [19:21] <skope> everyone was like "/k skope"
#3081 [19:21] <Kealper> lol
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#3083 [19:23] <Morrolan> Skope: So you can't be that drunk yet. :D
#3084 [19:23] <_303> Kealper: please just ban Oerg866, he's not going to fix his internet anytime soon
#3085 [19:23] <Morrolan> 303: Just ignore the blinking client. ;)
#3086 [19:23] <Kealper> _303: yeah, i might for the time being if he keeps DCing :/
#3087 [19:24] <Kealper> but i can't just ban him and wait for him to DC to remove the ban, because then vox will kick him and i won't know when he DCes :/
#3088 [19:25] <gPad2002> Lol
#3089 [19:25] <gPad2002> The bots again
#3090 [19:26] * Kealper really hates eggdrop sometimes
#3090 [19:26] <gPad2002> Lol, eggdrop
#3091 [19:26] <gPad2002> I still think nothing compares to a self-written bot
#3092 [19:26] <gPad2002> I mean
#3093 [19:26] <gPad2002> It does /exactly/ what you need it to
#3094 [19:26] <gPad2002> (usually)
#3095 [19:26] <Kealper> ^
#3096 [19:27] * Kealper waits for him to rejoin in #minecraft
#3096 [19:27] <oldtopman> XD
#3097 [19:27] <gPad2002> :P
#3098 [19:27] * gPad2002 tests /music
#3098 [19:27] * gPad2002 is not currently listening to music.
#3098 [19:28] <oldtopman> He joined
#3099 [19:28] <gPad2002> Colloquy, you fail.
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#3101 [19:28] <gPad2002> Lol.
#3102 [19:28] * Kealper dies a little inside
#3102 [19:28] <gPad2002> That isn't going to work :P
#3103 [19:29] <gPad2002> You'll need to ban until he notices
#3104 [19:29] <Kealper> i really don't want to do that :/
#3105 [19:29] <gPad2002> Why?
#3106 [19:29] <gPad2002> He'll notice, and then he can have it lifted
#3107 [19:30] <Kealper> mhe
#3108 [19:30] <Kealper> meh
#3109 [19:30] <gPad2002> Someone else will end up doing it anyway :P
#3110 [19:30] <Kealper> Oerg866: if you notice this before my PM...check your PMs
#3111 [19:31] * VoxelHead kicked Oerg866 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned)
#3112 [19:31] * Kealper sighs
#3112 [19:31] <gPad2002> Sometimes its the best way
#3113 [19:32] <Kealper> i hate banning people that were not a total douche, but whatever, he went afk after knowing his net sucked :/
#3114 [19:32] <gPad2002> Mm.
#3115 [19:36] <skope> [5~
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#3117 [19:36] <Curt``> Hello.
#3118 [19:36] <skope> Morrolan: i am ;)
#3119 [19:37] <skope> i am damn wasted
#3120 [19:37] <Kealper> hi Curt``
#3121 [19:37] <skope> 0,7l booze drank
#3122 [19:37] <skope> i have few beers
#3123 [19:38] <Curt``> I was wondering if somebody could help. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=212139#p3327475 -- basically on multiplayer, I often times (but not 100% of the time) get extremely horrible lag (sometimes more than two minutes) (tested by saying a message, and timing it by stopwatch or equivalent). Internet is fine, as other games that use the int
#3124 [19:38] <Morrolan> Oh, you're still dry enough to NOT tell us things we don't care about. ;)
#3125 [19:38] <Curt``> internet work perfectly fine. Wondering if anybody had this issue before, and can help me; or if theres a way to fix it, or what
#3126 [19:38] <Morrolan> Curt: Only chatlag or lag everywhere?
#3127 [19:38] <Kealper> Curt``: it's more common than we'd like to admit
#3128 [19:38] <Kealper> BUT
#3129 [19:38] <Morrolan> And yea, what Kealper said. ^^
#3130 [19:39] <Curt``> everywhere. if i try to destroy a block, it'll take a while to dissapear and drop the item. it'll take a while to pick up an item. etc.
#3131 [19:39] <Kealper> Curt``: i have been wondering something lately about it....could you go to http://speedtest.net and run a test, then give us the "Share result" link?
#3132 [19:40] <Curt``> my internet is pretty poor, but not horrible bad. 320 KBps dl, 30 KBps up afai remember
#3133 [19:40] <Curt``> ill double check that for ya.
#3134 [19:40] <gPad2002> Just a little under mine
#3135 [19:40] <gPad2002> Which is fine
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#3138 [19:41] <Kealper> gPad2002: could you run one, too? i'd like to start collecting results so i can get a general idea of what sort of internet speed it takes to play minecraft
#3139 [19:41] <gPad2002> Not right now
#3140 [19:41] <gPad2002> On my iPad
#3141 [19:41] <Kealper> oh yeah..forgot...no flash ._.
#3142 [19:42] <Curt``> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1275918309.png
#3143 [19:42] <Oerg866> _303: Wow. Again I see people requesting bans for people which are not as blessed as you with your 1337Mbit 25/7 internet connections, just to be a dick to people. You know what? No u.
#3144 [19:42] <Kealper> hmm... Curt`` i actually think your internet might be too slow, my brother has the same issues as you speak of and he has around the same internet speed
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#3146 [19:43] <skope> my internet is 100/5
#3147 [19:43] <skope> sucks that upload is 5mbps
#3148 [19:43] <Kealper> Oerg866: it was not just 303 that requested
#3149 [19:43] <Curt``> Hehe minecraft network isn't the mosts efficient thing in the world? i know other games i played before ran perfectly fine xD i hope it'll be improved in the future :/
#3150 [19:44] <Curt``> pretty much the only reason why i don't play online anymore, kuz its unbearable
#3151 [19:44] <Kealper> yeah, minecraft is horrible for internet usage :/
#3152 [19:44] <Kealper> also
#3153 [19:44] <oldtopman> mine is 1.5/1
#3154 [19:44] <Kealper> i seen your test was from Detroit....what part of Michigan are you from?
#3155 [19:44] <Curt``> Ohio; it auto selected that one xD
#3156 [19:45] <Kealper> oh lol, was wondering because i'm about 60 miles northeast of Detroit lol
#3157 [19:45] <Curt``> ah i see xD
#3158 [19:45] <skope> how
#3159 [19:45] <skope> sry
#3160 [19:45] <skope> how's the internet in usa?
#3161 [19:45] <skope> i've been wondering it
#3162 [19:45] <Kealper> garbage compared to european countries
#3163 [19:45] <skope> cause i don't see much people in irc from usa
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#3165 [19:46] <Curt``> i think it varies a lot.
#3166 [19:46] <Kealper> most people have internet in the USA, but most of it is painfully slow and expensive when compared with other countries
#3167 [19:46] <Curt``> im pretty below average i think (iirc); but thers some ppl worse off than i am. afaik non-US ppl can get tons better internet for cheaper
#3168 [19:47] <Curt``> yeah so i've heard
#3169 [19:47] <Kealper> Curt's internet is pretty average for the USA, and if you are lucky, you can get 16-24mbit/s down and 2-5mbit/s up
#3170 [19:47] <skope> sucks ass, that people don't have decent internet connection
#3171 [19:47] <skope> i think it's a human right ;)
#3172 [19:47] <Kealper> ^
#3173 [19:47] <Curt``> i've been deprived pretty much my whole life xD im used to it lol
#3174 [19:48] <Curt``> although no internet is just... torture xD
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#3176 [19:48] <Kealper> indeed
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#3178 [19:48] <Curt``> i wonder. does windows 7 have a network 'observer' thing checking what applications use what internet usage?
#3179 [19:49] <skope> i've had internet since 2003
#3180 [19:49] <skope> well i had dialup before it
#3181 [19:49] <skope> but adsl after that
#3182 [19:49] <Kealper> ok back
#3183 [19:49] <Kealper> Curt``: yes
#3184 [19:50] <Kealper> called Resource Monitor, in the Network tab
#3185 [19:50] <Curt``> i found resorce monitor gonna see if it can show me how much it uses
#3186 [19:50] <Curt``> thx
#3187 [19:52] <skope> how about guys
#3188 [19:52] <skope> i'll buy you berr
#3189 [19:52] <skope> beer*
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#3191 [19:52] <skope> now i start typoing :/
#3192 [19:52] <skope> maybe i should sleep soon
#3193 [19:52] <Morrolan> What do you mean with "how about guys"? :D
#3194 [19:52] <Kealper> Morrolan: he's getting closer!
#3195 [19:52] <Morrolan> Kealper: Yep.
#3196 [19:52] <Morrolan> Skope: Yea, going to bed might be a good idea.
#3197 [19:52] <Morrolan> Before you start to, you know...
#3198 [19:53] <skope> what? ;)
#3199 [19:53] <Kealper> "i really love you guys!"
#3200 [19:53] <Morrolan> ^
#3201 [19:53] <skope> i never say that!
#3202 [19:53] <skope> i've been here for few days
#3203 [19:53] <skope> i can't say that i love you guys
#3204 [19:53] <skope> i'm a bit attracted to you tho
#3205 [19:53] <Morrolan> Wait... so you don't remember?
#3206 [19:54] <Kealper> usually by the time you get to that point, that night is giong to be a blur :P
#3207 [19:54] <skope> and do you want to go out sometimes?
#3208 [19:54] <skope> i'll pay
#3209 [19:54] <Morrolan> Kealper: Still got the log from yesterday evening?
#3210 [19:54] <skope> and nice
#3211 [19:54] <skope> four rows starting with "i"
#3212 [19:54] <skope> self-centered <3
#3213 [19:54] <Morrolan> ^^
#3214 [19:54] <Kealper> Morrolan: http://kealper.com/irclogs :P
#3215 [19:55] <skope> grepper works nicely
#3216 [19:55] <Morrolan> :D
#3217 [19:55] <Morrolan> Grepper?
#3218 [19:55] <skope> line grep
#3219 [19:59] <Morrolan> Hmm, if I'd stay up for two or three more hours I could actually eat breakfast again, after like a week without it. :/
#3220 [20:01] <skope> hehe
#3221 [20:01] <Morrolan> Oh well, that's not worth it, I'll go and take a nap now. Have a nice day.
#3222 [20:01] <skope> i haven't ate breakfast for like 10 years
#3223 [20:01] <skope> he left :(
#3224 [20:01] <skope> so i drink more booze
#3225 [20:01] <skope> to ease the pain
#3226 [20:01] <Curt``> interesting, my upload wasnt maxed out but still a 20-30 sec lag for a bit there. (i think its more likely to get large / larger spikes with more ppl in the server)
#3227 [20:02] <skope> holy cow, maybe this isn't the right channel to speak when wasted :)
#3228 [20:02] <skope> cause i have no idea what you're talking about
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#3230 [20:02] <mib_1wr2od> .
#3231 [20:02] <Kealper> skope: the alocohol is really starting to work it's magic now
#3232 [20:03] <Kealper> i suggest some cold pizza, and then some sleep :P
#3233 [20:03] <skope> Kealper: true, but i have no idea about things when sober :)
#3234 [20:03] <skope> good suggestion
#3235 [20:03] <skope> or i would be quiet :)
#3236 [20:03] <skope> cause i'm not sleepy at all :P
#3237 [20:03] <Kealper> Curt``: hmm...
#3238 [20:04] <Kealper> i wish i could figure out why people lag :/
#3239 [20:04] <Kealper> because i have found a fix that works most of the time, but it's not a good fix by far
#3240 [20:04] <Curt``> uhh, im listening :P
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#3242 [20:05] <Kealper> well, that's the thing....you would have to be playing on specific servers, because i made a program that helps alieviate much of the lag (most of the time, tends to cause random DCes after a while of being connected)
#3243 [20:06] <Curt``> Ah a server-side fix hm.
#3244 [20:07] <Kealper> it basically proxies your client connection at the server's end, and then holds the data that the server tries to send to you, and sends it off in big collections of packets instead of a very fast stream of little ones
#3245 [20:07] <Curt``> Ooohhhh
#3246 [20:07] <Curt``> i can see that being useful i've heard tons of small packets == very bad for networking something
#3247 [20:08] <Kealper> yeah, that's part of Minecraft's problem with networking :/
#3248 [20:09] <Curt``> can a small buffer and sending packets even every 1ms or 3 or something drastically improve it? doesnt sound hard either
#3249 [20:09] <Kealper> oh, didn't realize what your technical understanding was
#3250 [20:10] <Kealper> my program actually buffers the packets and sends them off every 200ms
#3251 [20:10] <Kealper> so you still get a tad bit of lag, but it's playable
#3252 [20:10] <oldtopman> Kealper: Where can I get your program?
#3253 [20:11] <Kealper> windows only, and it's not that great...it an only accomodate one person per time
#3254 [20:11] <oldtopman> :(
#3255 [20:11] <Kealper> it was just really a thing i was using to test the concept
#3256 [20:11] <oldtopman> Someone wrote another one, but I am having trouble getting it to compile :/
#3257 [20:11] <Curt``> well i don't have a ton of experience, but im barely familiar but still partially familiar xD
#3258 [20:12] <Kealper> let me see if i still have it running on my server
#3259 [20:12] <Kealper> you could use it to test
#3260 [20:13] <Kealper> poopy....brb
#3261 [20:13] <skope> that's gross man!
#3262 [20:13] <skope> maybe i should take a dump too
#3263 [20:14] <Kealper> you horrible person
#3264 [20:15] <Kealper> i meant "shit, it isn't started, brb i'll start it up"
#3265 [20:15] <Kealper> >.>
#3266 [20:16] <Kealper> ok
#3267 [20:16] <Kealper> started and working
#3268 [20:16] <Kealper> Curt``: what's your ingame username? i run a whitelist on my server
#3269 [20:16] <Curt``> cool :
#3270 [20:16] <Curt``> DorkeyDear
#3271 [20:16] <Curt``> i cant join right this second though i need to save somebody from being stuck in a hole or osmething xD iuuno
#3272 [20:16] <Kealper> oh lol
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#3274 [20:16] <Kealper> tell me when you're ready to test
#3275 [20:17] <Kealper> because if the proof of concept works, then it merits rewriting it in a faster language that can do multiple threads
#3276 [20:18] <[ICE]Beginning> Hey, is anyone familiar with a way to keybind things like WorldEdit commands on a Bukkit SMP server?
#3277 [20:18] <Kealper> you can't without a mod or a 3rd party program to type it in really fast on a keypress
#3278 [20:19] <[ICE]Beginning> I thought as much, but no ammount of Googling seems to help me find such a thing... At least one that isn't only for single player
#3279 [20:20] <[ICE]Beginning> Are you aware of a keybinding mod for multiplayer?
#3280 [20:20] <Kealper> any mod like that would be a client mod
#3281 [20:20] <Kealper> but i have not heard of any
#3282 [20:20] <[ICE]Beginning> Sadface...
#3283 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Besides this:
#3284 [20:21] <Kealper> (if i knew Java, i'd make one...now that i think about it, it seems like a good idea)
#3285 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_editors
#3286 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> Use
#3287 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft QuickTyper
#3288 [20:21] * Kealper look
#3288 [20:21] <Kealper> looks*
#3289 [20:22] <Kealper> looks like someone already made a 3rd party program to just type it into the client lol
#3290 [20:22] <[ICE]Beginning> :O
#3291 [20:22] <[ICE]Beginning> Glorious!
#3292 [20:22] <[ICE]Beginning> Thank you so much! I was really getting sick of monotonusly typing out server commands over and over...
#3293 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#3294 [20:22] <[ICE]Beginning> This is such a life saver
#3295 [20:22] <Curt``> Kealper: I'm ready.
#3296 [20:23] <Kealper> Curt``: first: the control test, without the program to see if you lag on my server
#3297 [20:23] <Curt``> okay.
#3298 [20:23] <Kealper> Curt``: address is mc.kealper.com
#3299 [20:23] <Curt``> no guarentee ill lag right away either, so i may need to wait a bit while in there
#3300 [20:24] * oldtopman writes down Kealpers mc address
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#3301 [20:28] <skope> whats up man
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#3309 [21:04] <JDigital> Does ice freeze?
#3310 [21:05] <JDigital> Or rather, does water freeze
#3311 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3312 [21:06] <JDigital> How come it won't happen for me
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#3314 [21:07] <Guest40208> Can I talk to someone about setting up a server with mods? I seem to be having trouble getting the mods to work
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#3317 [21:11] <dickyb0b> hi
#3318 [21:11] <Kealper> hi
#3319 [21:12] <dickyb0b> i dont need help or anythign but wanted to ask are they going to add tornados in to minecraft ?
#3320 [21:12] <oldtopman> Not as far as I have heard.
#3321 [21:13] <dickyb0b> well havent they added weather effects
#3322 [21:13] <Kealper> lightning
#3323 [21:14] <Kealper> which you don't want to be on the wrong end of...lol
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#3325 [21:14] <oldtopman> Kealper: ikr
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#3327 [21:25] * GreyVulpine pokes lukegb, "You're immortalized in a screencap for the valve ARG.
#3327 [21:25] <VoxelHead> thankie
#3328 [21:25] <oldtopman> ARG?
#3329 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> alternative reality game for portal
#3330 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> http://thesteamcast.com/promo/portal2party/
#3331 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> It's what everybody was doing leading up to the portal 2 launch.
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#3333 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> in-game clues, spread across 12-13 indie games, as well as out-of-game clues
#3334 [21:27] <houze> what indie games?
#3335 [21:27] <houze> example of such a clue?
#3336 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Wiki for the event here:
#3337 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> http://valvearg.com/wiki/Valve_PotatoFoolsDay_ARG_Wiki
#3338 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> They used everything from cyphers, to glyphs, to using the ham radio standard for transmitting images
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#3340 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> and qr codes
#3341 [21:31] <Kealper> <3 ham radio
#3342 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Ah, the SSTV encoding, that was it
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#3344 [21:34] * Kealper has not messed with any SSTV sort of stuff
#3344 [21:34] <Kealper> i'd need a better ham radio for that, mine is just a little hand held
#3345 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> http://hamradionation.com/browse_vidfeeders.php?tag=portal&keyword=SSTV
#3346 [21:34] * GreyVulpine points
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#3347 [21:34] <Kealper> yeah, i know what SSTV is, Slow-Scan TV
#3348 [21:35] * GreyVulpine nods.
#3348 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> You gotta listen to it though, almost reminds me of very early modem sounds
#3349 [21:39] <Kealper> those SSTV sounds are weird lol....never heard what it sounds like before
#3350 [21:40] <Kealper> since...i'm ghetto and don't have any awesome ham :/
#3351 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> For those that have beaten portal 2... http://rain.nxe7.com/
#3352 [21:42] <Kealper> hmm...these are being done with a program on a computer that can decode SSTV stuff..... /me wonders if his radio can be used just for recieving the sounds and having his computer decode it
#3353 [21:43] <oldtopman> Kealper: I'm sure you can do that.
#3354 [21:43] <Kealper> lol at the link
#3355 [21:43] <Kealper> i'd have to botch an audio cable together though....
#3356 [21:43] * Kealper looks around for some spare jacks and some speaker wire
#3356 [21:44] <aetherian> the place in our house that houses too many wires and things needs a ctrl-F
#3357 [21:45] <skope> bah, it's 4:40AM
#3358 [21:45] <skope> an i'm still awake
#3359 [21:45] <skope> this is normal or very extraordinary
#3360 [21:45] <aetherian> the night's young
#3361 [21:45] <skope> so am i
#3362 [21:45] <skope> want to hang out?
#3363 [21:45] <skope> ;)
#3364 [21:45] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#3365 [21:46] <skope> last drink of booze going :)
#3366 [21:46] <skope> 0,7l 39% gone
#3367 [21:46] <skope> i still have beer, maybe i gotta open few :)
#3368 [21:47] <Kealper> getting drunk and spending the night in IRC....*foreveralone.jpg*
#3369 [21:48] <skope> sure
#3370 [21:48] <skope> i do it all the time
#3371 [21:48] <skope> and i'm not alone
#3372 [21:48] <skope> :\
#3373 [21:48] <skope> i keep saying that to myself
#3374 [21:49] <skope> well i could've got a ride to megaparty tonight, but i didn't bother
#3375 [21:49] <skope> free ride
#3376 [21:50] <skope> tried to code too
#3377 [21:50] <skope> i broke the release so bad, that people will kill me tomorrow
#3378 [21:50] <skope> so maybe it was good
#3379 [21:50] <Kealper> wut
#3380 [21:51] <skope> i committed files like "hahaImDrunk.php" etc
#3381 [21:51] <VoxelHead> SON! THERE BETTER NOT BE ANY WALKING DEAD UP THERE!
#3382 [21:51] <skope> maybe it's not so fun tomorrow
#3383 [21:51] <skope> but felt like it now!
#3384 [21:51] <Kealper> lol
#3385 [21:52] <skope> i am so good coder partner
#3386 [21:52] <oldtopman> VoxelHead: Invader Zim FTW!
#3387 [21:52] <skope> want me to code something with you?
#3388 [21:52] <skope> i will fuck up your code and make fun of you afterwards
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#3390 [21:53] <Kealper> "HAHA YOUR CODE LOOKS LIKE SHI-- oh...wait.."
#3391 [21:53] <VoxelHead> mitpatterson... analysis: moron!
#3392 [21:53] <Kealper> owned
#3393 [21:53] <mitpatterson> what was i mentioned?
#3394 [21:53] <mitpatterson> why*
#3395 [21:53] <Kealper> vox randomly picked you lol
#3396 [21:53] <mitpatterson> for what?
#3397 [21:53] <mitpatterson> lmao
#3398 [21:54] <skope> Kealper: yeah :(
#3399 [21:54] <Kealper> no idea lol, it just raondomly did that
#3400 [21:54] <mitpatterson> VoxelHead court mashial your self
#3401 [21:54] <mitpatterson> spelling fail
#3402 [21:54] <mitpatterson> lol
#3403 [21:54] <skope> but usually my irc hilight log looks like this "YOU F*CKING MORON, I WILL KILL YOU SO HARD THAT YOU MOTHER CAN'T FIND YOU ANYMORE"
#3404 [21:54] <mitpatterson> VoxelHead court marshal your self
#3405 [21:54] <Kealper> lol
#3406 [21:54] <skope> and i just lol
#3407 [21:55] <Kealper> vox, courtmartial everyone
#3408 [21:55] <VoxelHead> Who?
#3409 [21:55] <skope> i still have booze, so it's alright
#3410 [21:55] <Kealper> oh, it needs a real username
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#3412 [21:55] <mitpatterson> vox, courmartial Kealper
#3413 [21:55] <yoshi> Im having a lag issue with connecting to a local server in USA while im in italy. anyone have any way to help with that?
#3414 [21:56] <xales> yoshi: It's probably geographic, no solution. Depends on connection speed, and being far away doesn't help
#3415 [21:56] <yoshi> well heres basically what is physically happening
#3416 [21:56] <mitpatterson> vox, courtmartial Kealper
#3417 [21:56] <yoshi> ill mine a block... anything.. it will go away.. then come back like.. 2 seconds later.
#3418 [21:56] * VoxelHead throws Kealper in the brig to await charges
#3418 [21:57] <xales> yoshi: Yes, that's lag
#3419 [21:57] <xales> Kealper: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7950795/DESKTOPS/smilo/Screenshot07.png
#3420 [21:57] <xales> :3
#3421 [21:57] <yoshi> how do i work around that?
#3422 [21:57] <yoshi> because its unplayable that way
#3423 [21:57] <yoshi> :\
#3424 [21:57] <skope> that background
#3425 [21:57] <skope> i got the same
#3426 [21:57] <VoxelHead> Kealper, you are charged with gross incompetence, and writing a character development episode
#3427 [21:57] <VoxelHead> You have been found guilty, and are sentenced to find Geordi a date. And may God have mercy on your soul.
#3428 [21:57] <Kealper> :<
#3429 [21:57] <skope> but those terminals
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#3431 [21:57] <xales> yoshi: There's really no solution
#3432 [21:57] <skope> i think i love you man
#3433 [21:57] <xales> lol
#3434 [21:58] <yoshi> So the game is deemed unplayable for me?
#3435 [21:58] <skope> what distro?
#3436 [21:58] <xales> yoshi: Find a different server or play single-player
#3437 [21:58] <xales> skope: look at the screenshot, it says there :P
#3438 [21:58] <xales> though the distro doesn't come with any of this stuff preinstalled, or anything really, for that matter
#3439 [21:58] <yoshi> its family that wants me to play, i buy the game and unfortunally im expriencing a lag issue
#3440 [21:58] <xales> it's all preinstalled
#3441 [21:58] <xales> err
#3442 [21:58] <xales> all custom
#3443 [21:58] <xales> derp
#3444 [21:59] <yoshi> what im wondering is, is there anyway i can forward a port range or something?
#3445 [21:59] <Kealper> xales: he's had more than his fair share of drink for the night, he won't be the quickest nail in the woodshed
#3446 [21:59] <VoxelHead> that's my favourite show
#3447 [21:59] <skope> xales: yeah, sry
#3448 [21:59] <xales> yoshi: If you are connecting to a server on practically on the other side of the world from you, you can't without lag
#3449 [21:59] <skope> and i apologize
#3450 [21:59] <skope> of my slowliness
#3451 [21:59] <xales> lol, it's not a problem :P
#3452 [21:59] <yoshi> awesome.
#3453 [21:59] <yoshi> waste of money
#3454 [21:59] <Kealper> skope: btw, you just said you loved us....i think it's time for you to sleep that off so i can tease you about it tomorrow
#3455 [22:00] <xales> Kealper: It's amazing how convienient key combinations are, now that the windows/super key doesn't do anything and can be used for whatever I want :3
#3456 [22:00] <xales> yoshi: Play single-player or find a different server? ._.
#3457 [22:00] <skope> Kealper: i just said, i love on of you. it's not all :(
#3458 [22:00] <skope> but you're still right
#3459 [22:00] <skope> i am so wasted still
#3460 [22:00] <skope> one*
#3461 [22:00] <oldtopman> yoshi: You need to find a server in italy
#3462 [22:00] <skope> hehe, point taken
#3463 [22:00] <Blackthorne`> When did it become possible to get apples from trees?
#3464 [22:01] <Kealper> where do you think apples came from? lol
#3465 [22:02] <VoxelHead> mmm Samiy
#3466 [22:02] <skope> but hmm. i've been thinking about the reason that notch coded mc with java?
#3467 [22:03] <skope> i bet it's been gone through in here various times
#3468 [22:03] <skope> but i just want to know
#3469 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> First, Notch knows only Java.
#3470 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Second, java allows for multi-platform capabilities
#3471 [22:03] <Kealper> without recompiling headaches
#3472 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Install java, run minecraft on any OS that also has java
#3473 [22:04] <dickyb0b> when is notch going to make a server browser
#3474 [22:04] <skope> great that people still answer that
#3475 [22:04] <skope> thank you
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#3477 [22:06] <xales> Kealper: did you see my irssi screenshot?
#3478 [22:06] <xales> it looks amazing running how it's supposed to run :P
#3479 [22:06] <Kealper> what do you mean "supposed to run"?
#3480 [22:06] <Kealper> like, not running through screen kind of thing?
#3481 [22:06] <xales> in a linux terminal emulator, rather than PuTTY
#3482 [22:07] <Kealper> oh, though a proper ssh client? lol
#3483 [22:07] <xales> sort of
#3484 [22:07] <xales> I'll take another screenshot
#3485 [22:07] <Kealper> or are you actually running it local?
#3486 [22:07] <VoxelHead> I like them :-)
#3487 [22:09] <dickyb0b> give me a server ip that works
#3488 [22:09] <dickyb0b> cause alot dont work
#3489 [22:09] <xales> dickyb0b: smp.shadow-craft.net
#3490 [22:10] <dickyb0b> when is notch going to make a server browser
#3491 [22:10] <dickyb0b> so we can see a list of online servers
#3492 [22:10] <skope> is there a steady server network?
#3493 [22:10] <skope> i bet not
#3494 [22:11] <AG_Scott> There are lists of servers dickyb0b
#3495 [22:11] <AG_Scott> ?? servers
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#3497 [22:11] <AG_Scott> ?? smp/servers
#3498 [22:11] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3499 [22:11] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3500 [22:13] <Kealper> xales: how'd you get your irssi to use windows past "o"?
#3501 [22:13] <xales> Kealper: I bound more keys
#3502 [22:13] <xales> lol
#3503 [22:13] <Kealper> oh..... how2irssilikethat
#3504 [22:13] <xales> "/bind meta-(letter) change_window (number)"
#3505 [22:13] <Kealper> ahh, fair enough
#3506 [22:13] <xales> so /bind meta-p change_window 20
#3507 [22:13] <xales> and for capital letters, meta-P
#3508 [22:14] <xales> symbols, meta-!
#3509 [22:14] <xales> etc
#3510 [22:14] <xales> anyway, stargate time, bbl
#3511 [22:14] <skope> oh damn
#3512 [22:14] <skope> i shouldn't say if i'm not sure :)
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#3514 [22:16] <RaianBlackwing> Anyone know of any reason that Minecraft would crash if you opened a custom in-game menu for a mod, like Floodgates or Plasticcraft's microwaves?
#3515 [22:16] <skope> what does the crash log say?
#3516 [22:16] <Kealper> the mods are probably not compatible with the latest version of minecraft, or multiple mods are clashing with eachother
#3517 [22:17] <RaianBlackwing> I tested it with only Risugami's Floodgate, on 1.5.01, which is the version is mod is updated to. It still crashed.
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#3519 [22:18] <skope> what's the channel for modding purposes?
#3520 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the mod
#3521 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Generally, single player mods, you can find help at #risucraft.
#3522 [22:20] <skope> yeah, that's what i searched
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#3524 [22:26] <LoneBlackfang> Hey can I get someone to test my server link silverfang.servequake.com:25565
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#3527 [22:28] <xales> !check silverfang.servequake.com:25565
#3528 [22:28] <xales> LoneBlackfang: Doesn't work
#3529 [22:29] <LoneBlackfang> any suggestions
#3530 [22:31] <xales> Did you port forward?
#3531 [22:31] <LoneBlackfang> try going to 67.3.153.133:25565
#3532 [22:31] <LoneBlackfang> ya]
#3533 [22:31] <xales> That's what it went to
#3534 [22:31] <xales> Either you have a firewall blocking it or you didn't port forward properly
#3535 [22:31] <xales> (or you aren't running the server properly)
#3536 [22:32] <LoneBlackfang> one sec
#3537 [22:32] <LoneBlackfang> brb
#3538 [22:33] <jimmybrite> ah that port forwarding, it's such a mystery to like *everyone* who has basic knowledge
#3539 [22:33] <jimmybrite> portforward.com is your friend
#3540 [22:35] <LoneBlackfang> try this one silverfang.dyndns-ip.com:25565
#3541 [22:35] <xales> !check silverfang.dyndns-ip.com:25565
#3542 [22:35] <xales> That worked.
#3543 [22:36] <LoneBlackfang> it is the no-ip one doesnt work with my router
#3544 [22:39] <LoneBlackfang> it working now
#3545 [22:40] <LoneBlackfang> thanks xales
#3546 [22:40] <xales> no problem
#3547 [22:48] <VoxelHead> So, like, bye mloeven.
#3548 [22:49] <skope> what happens
#3549 [22:49] <skope> well, i took a hit
#3550 [22:49] <skope> and took another beer
#3551 [22:49] <skope> i will drop soon :)
#3552 [22:51] <skope> hit from the umm, cigarette!
#3553 [22:51] <skope> nicotine and alcohol does it for me
#3554 [22:53] <skope> now drop ->
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#3560 [23:09] <VoxelHead> Mmm captain-lightning.
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#3563 [23:11] <Attemptedhippo> i need help with server related problems, can someone help me?
#3564 [23:12] <Kealper> depends, what problems?
#3565 [23:12] <Attemptedhippo> i created a server with hamacii and my friend cant connect, it says unknown host
#3566 [23:12] <xales> ??> Attemptedhippo fubar/hamachi
#3567 [23:12] <VoxelHead> Attemptedhippo: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#3568 [23:12] <VoxelHead> Attemptedhippo: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#3569 [23:14] <Attemptedhippo> ok ty can anyone sugest a better program for hosting a server?
#3570 [23:14] * Kealper is remaking AutoIt's string functions in C
#3570 [23:15] <xales> Attemptedhippo: As the message stated, just port-forward
#3571 [23:15] <Kealper> attempting*
#3572 [23:15] <xales> there is no "program" to use
#3573 [23:15] <Kealper> http://portforward.com helps
#3574 [23:15] <Kealper> don't buy or download anything from there
#3575 [23:15] <Kealper> skip the ad, the skip button is in the top-right
#3576 [23:15] <Kealper> you'll know what i mean when you see it
#3577 [23:15] <Attemptedhippo> ok ty again
#3578 [23:20] <Kealper> oh crap
#3579 [23:20] <Kealper> xales: halp
#3580 [23:20] <Kealper> oh, i know what i did
#3581 [23:20] <Kealper> nvm
#3582 [23:22] <xales> Kealper: lol
#3583 [23:22] <xales> what did you do?
#3584 [23:22] <Kealper> loooooots of errors/warnings trying to build this >.>
#3585 [23:22] <xales> pastebin plz
#3586 [23:23] <Kealper> lemme poke at it for a bit more before i give up and have you look lol
#3587 [23:23] <Kealper> trying to make this all completely by myself
#3588 [23:23] <xales> Kealper: I wanna see
#3589 [23:23] <xales> >:|
#3590 [23:23] <xales> before you fix it
#3591 [23:23] <xales> I won't tell you what you are doing wrong unless you really want
#3592 [23:23] <Kealper> which means it's going to look like garbage, and work like garbage
#3593 [23:24] <xales> pastebin
#3594 [23:24] <xales> :|
#3595 [23:24] <Kealper> ok, lemme pastebin the function i'm working on that i'm fairly certain is the cause of the errors
#3596 [23:24] <xales> whole program please
#3597 [23:24] <xales> >:|
#3598 [23:24] <Kealper> the whole program is not much atm :/
#3599 [23:25] <xales> so
#3600 [23:25] <Kealper> it's just a simple command prompt that has a few commands that are totally useless
#3601 [23:25] <xales> pastebin it please
#3602 [23:25] <xales> :|
#3603 [23:25] <xales> control-a control-c alt-tab control-v <click>
#3604 [23:25] <xales> how hard is that? >:|
#3605 [23:25] <Kealper> ugh..fine....but it's got some crap in it from when i was testing the function that was causing errors
#3606 [23:25] <xales> that's fine
#3607 [23:26] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com/fRWu68mS
#3608 [23:26] <Captain-Lightning> What am I looking at, Kealper?
#3609 [23:27] <Kealper> garbage
#3610 [23:27] <Captain-Lightning> C, or C++?
#3611 [23:27] <Kealper> and i think i'm using strlen wrong
#3612 [23:27] <Kealper> C
#3613 [23:27] <Kealper> i'm learning it :/
#3614 [23:27] <xales> Kealper: you are doing a lot wrong
#3615 [23:27] <xales> lol
#3616 [23:27] <Captain-Lightning> int iLen = strlen(sStr.c_str());
#3617 [23:27] <xales> first of all
#3618 [23:27] <xales> char sInput[len] = StringLeft(input, 3);
#3619 [23:28] <Kealper> yeah
#3620 [23:28] <xales> that will overflow the array
#3621 [23:28] <xales> and segfault
#3622 [23:28] <Kealper> that is the part i was saying disregard
#3623 [23:28] <xales> ...main()? lol
#3624 [23:28] <Captain-Lightning> your first while loop should be a for loop for consistency's sake as well.
#3625 [23:28] <Kealper> literally....just learning...crawl before you can walk sort of thing....
#3626 [23:28] <Captain-Lightning> for (iCurrent=0; iCurrent<= iCount; i++)
#3627 [23:28] <Kealper> i'd like to make a program do something, i'll make it pretty afterwards
#3628 [23:29] <Captain-Lightning> *iCount++
#3629 [23:29] <xales> Kealper: also, remember
#3630 [23:29] <Kealper> and yeah i poked around with for loops last night
#3631 [23:29] <xales> ++var
#3632 [23:29] <xales> not var++
#3633 [23:29] <xales> lol
#3634 [23:29] <Captain-Lightning> How long have you been learning?
#3635 [23:29] <xales> also, Kealper
#3636 [23:29] <xales> char = one character
#3637 [23:29] <xales> to pass an array, you pass a char*
#3638 [23:29] <Kealper> hardly....xales has been trying to get me to do stuff but i just really bothered to learn it like....not that long ago
#3639 [23:29] <Kealper> oh
#3640 [23:30] <Captain-Lightning> I really hope you don't plan on diving into the windows API.
#3641 [23:30] <Kealper> char StringLeft(char* sStr, int iCount){ <-- like that?
#3642 [23:30] <Captain-Lightning> It's scary stuff.
#3643 [23:30] <xales> not quite
#3644 [23:30] <xales> "char *sStr"
#3645 [23:30] * Kealper rages
#3645 [23:30] <Kealper> oh
#3646 [23:30] <xales> is the _correct_ way to format it
#3647 [23:30] <xales> it gets confusing if you don't do it like that, later on
#3648 [23:30] <Captain-Lightning> I'm already starting to see some MSProgrammerlol'
#3649 [23:30] <xales> (function pointers, multiple declaration)
#3650 [23:30] <Kealper> this char crap is throwing me off so bad
#3651 [23:30] <xales> Captain-Lightning: indeed >:|
#3652 [23:30] <xales> Kealper: it's just pointers
#3653 [23:30] <Captain-Lightning> I'm already starting to see some 'MSProgrammerlol' tendencies**
#3654 [23:30] <xales> they suck massively until you figure them out
#3655 [23:31] <Captain-Lightning> oh goddamn
#3656 [23:31] <xales> and then it's like, "why the fuck does nothing else do this? it's epic >:|"
#3657 [23:31] <VoxelHead> And then a bear came.
#3658 [23:31] <Captain-Lightning> You know you've typod bad when you put the stars on the wrong end.
#3659 [23:31] <xales> haha
#3660 [23:31] <VoxelHead> stay right there... we're sending someone over to beat you up for playing jokes on the FBI!
#3661 [23:31] <xales> fun fact
#3662 [23:31] <xales> DirectX internally
#3663 [23:31] <xales> uses void ****
#3664 [23:31] <xales> ... :|
#3665 [23:31] * Kealper dies inside
#3665 [23:31] <Captain-Lightning> >Press a button, see what happens
#3666 [23:31] <Captain-Lightning> >It works, lets go with it.
#3667 [23:32] <xales> ^
#3668 [23:32] <xales> Kealper: also, if you want to get part of a string, you don't need to loop over it
#3669 [23:32] <Kealper> throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks is fine when i'm just learning >.>
#3670 [23:32] <xales> actually, wait no nevermind, copy-on-write is really hard to do in C
#3671 [23:32] <xales> so just wait until C++ for that
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#3673 [23:32] <Kealper> remember...baby steps...no complicated crap...lol
#3674 [23:32] <Attemptedhippo> ok i found my router and what not, and the web site says that im supposed to steup a static IP address and enter it into the box bellow, should i really put the IP in there... i know that is a big risk
#3675 [23:33] <xales> because stl can do it for you
#3676 [23:33] <Captain-Lightning> That's how I learned.
#3677 [23:33] <Kealper> this is why i didn't want to paste the whole thing >.>
#3678 [23:33] <xales> Attemptedhippo: It doesn't send it anywhere, and it's asking for an internal IP, not external
#3679 [23:33] <Captain-Lightning> I learned C++ from cplusplus.com, and from just doing the craziest, most random things I could think of.
#3680 [23:33] <xales> ..and visiting a website gives them your IP anyway
#3681 [23:33] <Captain-Lightning> First program I made generated garbage files to submit to teachers online in order to extend your due date.
#3682 [23:33] <xales> Captain-Lightning: I did that too, pretty much
#3683 [23:33] <xales> :P
#3684 [23:33] <Captain-Lightning> Best way to learn, xales :D
#3685 [23:34] <Captain-Lightning> o/
#3686 [23:34] <xales> o\
#3687 [23:34] <xales> err
#3688 [23:34] <Captain-Lightning> haha
#3689 [23:34] <Kealper> i did that with AutoIt and it worked well
#3690 [23:34] <xales> \o
#3691 [23:34] <VoxelHead> Be quiet.
#3692 [23:34] <Captain-Lightning> Fine, Vox.
#3693 [23:34] <Attemptedhippo> do i need to enter it though, and why does it need it?
#3694 [23:34] <Captain-Lightning> Jerk.
#3695 [23:34] <Kealper> i was planning to do that with this but y'all just dashed my hopes ;_;
#3696 [23:34] <Captain-Lightning> Does Vox just say random things at a preset interval?
#3697 [23:34] <Captain-Lightning> Or is he ever relevant to the situation?
#3698 [23:34] <xales> Attemptedhippo: It uses it for the guide, to show you how to do it for your setup. You find the IP from ipconfig (start -> run -> cmd -> ipconfig -> "IPv4 Address")
#3699 [23:34] <Kealper> not in the least
#3700 [23:35] <Kealper> random things at random intervals
#3701 [23:35] <xales> Captain-Lightning: Occasionally relevant
#3702 [23:35] <xales> but it literally has a...
#3703 [23:35] <Captain-Lightning> But only by chance, amirite?
#3704 [23:35] <Kealper> ^
#3705 [23:35] <xales> 23:35:11 <VoxelHead> I AM VOXELHEAD! I'm powered by bMotion 0.1.0+svn. I'm male and this week I have mostly been bi.
#3706 [23:35] <xales> 23:35:11 <VoxelHead> My botnicks are currently /(VoxelHead|v|vox|voxel|voxie|voxxy|vh) ?/.
#3707 [23:35] <xales> 23:35:11 <VoxelHead> I'm currently awake and my next bedtime is Sun May 01 01:05:00 MST 2011.
#3708 [23:35] <Captain-Lightning> Hahaha
#3709 [23:35] <xales> 23:35:11 <VoxelHead> Random stuff happens at least every 35min, at most every 240min, and not if channel quiet for more than 120min. Active channels have a line in the last 300sec.
#3710 [23:35] <VoxelHead> when will the lies end?!
#3711 [23:35] <Captain-Lightning> Oh you.
#3712 [23:35] <Kealper> XD
#3713 [23:36] <Captain-Lightning> I really wish I knew a Ruby programmer.
#3714 [23:36] <Attemptedhippo> ok and another question when i have the ports and whatnot open, do i just give that friend my internal IP for him to connect to?
#3715 [23:36] <xales> eew, Ruby
#3716 [23:36] <xales> Attemptedhippo: No, you give him the external IP
#3717 [23:36] <Captain-Lightning> After learning all the decent programming languages
#3718 [23:36] <Captain-Lightning> I tried going for the off the radar badass language
#3719 [23:36] <xales> which is the one from whatismyip.com
#3720 [23:36] <Captain-Lightning> Used only by cavemen and graybeards
#3721 [23:36] <Captain-Lightning> And it is really kicking my ass.
#3722 [23:36] <Captain-Lightning> Ruby is a mindfuck at its best.
#3723 [23:36] <Captain-Lightning> besides brainfuck itself
#3724 [23:36] <xales> lol
#3725 [23:37] <Kealper> remember everyone: type !myip in here to get your external IP
#3726 [23:37] <Captain-Lightning> !myip
#3727 [23:37] <xales> o rly
#3728 [23:37] <xales> !myip
#3729 [23:37] <Captain-Lightning> I didn't know about that.
#3730 [23:37] <xales> >:|
#3731 [23:37] <xales> !myip
#3732 [23:37] <Captain-Lightning> That's pretty cool.
#3733 [23:37] <Kealper> still affected by the spam limiter
#3734 [23:37] <xales> ohey
#3735 [23:37] <xales> that's not my ip
#3736 [23:37] <xales> :3
#3737 [23:37] <Kealper> xales: lol
#3738 [23:37] <yoshi> !myip
#3739 [23:37] <xales> !location 74.208.227.185
#3740 [23:37] <yoshi> :O
#3741 [23:37] <xales> err
#3742 [23:37] <xales> !lookup 74.208.227.185
#3743 [23:37] <VoxelHead> well slap my ass and call me VoxelHead
#3744 [23:37] <xales> oh, is that fixed?
#3745 [23:37] <xales> O_O
#3746 [23:37] <Kealper> ehh.....might not have been a good idea to show people that command
#3747 [23:37] <xales> !location 178.76.134.171
#3748 [23:37] <xales> Kealper: :P
#3749 [23:38] <yoshi> !lookup 178.76.134.171
#3750 [23:38] <Captain-Lightning> I sort of half assed my way through python. I might quit my studies with Ruby to learn that properly.
#3751 [23:38] <yoshi> :O
#3752 [23:38] <yoshi> LMFAO
#3753 [23:38] <VoxelHead> wtf
#3754 [23:38] <Kealper> ...and that's why....now it'll be abused
#3755 [23:38] <xales> Captain-Lightning: python is a great language
#3756 [23:38] <xales> it's nearly as fast as C and very powerful
#3757 [23:38] <yoshi> kealper i knew it worked i was showin wher i am
#3758 [23:38] <yoshi> lol
#3759 [23:38] <Kealper> oh
#3760 [23:39] <Captain-Lightning> I sort of learned it
#3761 [23:39] <Captain-Lightning> It's an awesome language, but I never put enough time into it to actually memorize any of it.
#3762 [23:39] <yoshi> is c or c++ hard to learn
#3763 [23:39] <yoshi> ??
#3764 [23:39] <Kealper> seems pretty easy to me
#3765 [23:39] <Captain-Lightning> C++ was my third language
#3766 [23:39] <Captain-Lightning> I should have started with it.
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#3768 [23:39] <Captain-Lightning> C++ is definitely the easiest language I have ever learned.
#3769 [23:39] <Kealper> although i was just cut down off my "this is easy" horse by those two
#3770 [23:39] <Captain-Lightning> People that say you should start with Java either hate you, are assholes, or hate you.
#3771 [23:40] <Kealper> ^^^^^^
#3772 [23:40] <yoshi> hahha
#3773 [23:40] <yoshi> is java hard?
#3774 [23:40] <xales> No
#3775 [23:40] <VoxelHead> !@~$%#@%$%##^@!^
#3776 [23:40] <xales> Java is stupid
#3777 [23:40] <Kealper> no, but it's dumb
#3778 [23:40] <Kealper> lol
#3779 [23:40] <Captain-Lightning> Not hard, just not good to start with.
#3780 [23:40] <yoshi> not vast?
#3781 [23:40] <xales> It's not that it's not vast, it's that it's shittey
#3782 [23:40] <Kealper> it's big and heavy
#3783 [23:40] <Captain-Lightning> If you go on learning other coding languages with a Java background, you're pretty much crippled for life.
#3784 [23:40] <xales> It's literally one of the worst programming languages/environments at the moment
#3785 [23:40] <xales> Captain-Lightning: Same with .NET
#3786 [23:40] <xales> >:|
#3787 [23:40] <Kealper> xales: VB
#3788 [23:40] <yoshi> so is it a long process to write a program?
#3789 [23:40] <Captain-Lightning> What xales said.
#3790 [23:40] <xales> yoshi: Very
#3791 [23:40] <Kealper> oh
#3792 [23:40] <xales> Big programs are written over many years
#3793 [23:41] <yoshi> like what can i make with it?
#3794 [23:41] <xales> by many people
#3795 [23:41] <Kealper> damnit you ninja'd me with the .NET
#3796 [23:41] <yoshi> like a basic program
#3797 [23:41] <xales> yoshi: Java? Nothing.
#3798 [23:41] <yoshi> no
#3799 [23:41] <xales> Make nothing with Java
#3800 [23:41] <yoshi> c++
#3801 [23:41] <xales> lol
#3802 [23:41] <xales> c++? anything
#3803 [23:41] <xales> lol
#3804 [23:41] <yoshi> like example
#3805 [23:41] <aetherian> that guy shoulda studied more
#3806 [23:41] <Kealper> yoshi: you know that OS you are using right now to talk to us on?
#3807 [23:41] <xales> I mean, literally, anything
#3808 [23:41] <aetherian> he may have gotten a b
#3809 [23:41] <Kealper> yoshi: that's done in mostly C++
#3810 [23:41] <yoshi> no i understand that..
#3811 [23:41] <yoshi> I just never did it before
#3812 [23:41] <Captain-Lightning> I halfassed Java the same way I did with Python, just because I hated it coming from C++. I only really know proficiently SQL/PHP, Javascript/Jquery, C++, HTML/CSS(Doesn't even count), and Shell/Bash.
#3813 [23:42] <xales> if you need to ask a question like that, you need to learn programming concepts before you even try starting to learn
#3814 [23:42] <yoshi> so ide like an example of something you have created
#3815 [23:42] <Captain-Lightning> Alright everyone
#3816 [23:42] <xales> yoshi: Anything means anything
#3817 [23:42] <Captain-Lightning> Languages you've learned and can code in proficiently. GO!
#3818 [23:42] <LordTrevor> Byond
#3819 [23:42] <xales> Captain-Lightning: Too many to list? lol
#3820 [23:42] <aetherian> xales: learn FORTRAN next :D
#3821 [23:42] <yoshi> well good thing im just asking for one
#3822 [23:43] <xales> Captain-Lightning: C C++ Python PHP Java *.NET x86-ASM Perl...
#3823 [23:43] <Kealper> aetherian: you masochist
#3824 [23:43] <xales> the list goes on
#3825 [23:43] <aetherian> hehe
#3826 [23:43] <Captain-Lightning> Assembly is for elitists >_>
#3827 [23:43] <LordTrevor> And im learning jscript right now(so I can write for my sony reader)
#3828 [23:43] <xales> Captain-Lightning: There are a small number of legit uses for it
#3829 [23:43] <xales> but I learned it because it's a school requirement
#3830 [23:43] <aetherian> :O
#3831 [23:43] <xales> rather, a prerequisite course for one I want to take
#3832 [23:43] <VoxelHead> Well i'll be a monkey's uncle.
#3833 [23:43] <xales> ^
#3834 [23:43] <aetherian> ^
#3835 [23:43] <Kealper> i looked at MASM...but then lost interest :/
#3836 [23:43] <outsomnia> does anyone know the URL for showing your minecraft skin to someone?
#3837 [23:43] <outsomnia> *url format
#3838 [23:44] * Kealper forgets it offhand
#3838 [23:44] <Kealper> although
#3839 [23:44] <Kealper> you can't properly show it to someone atm
#3840 [23:44] <outsomnia> oh notch~
#3841 [23:44] <LordTrevor> Does voxelhead even give bad advice anymore? All he seems to do these days is spout nonsense
#3842 [23:44] <Kealper> you can only show them the skin file itself :/
#3843 [23:44] <outsomnia> when will he stop breaking stuff~
#3844 [23:44] <Captain-Lightning> http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=yourusername
#3845 [23:44] <Kealper> LordTrevor: vox never gave advice lol
#3846 [23:44] <outsomnia> oh thanks
#3847 [23:44] <Kealper> does that work again?
#3848 [23:44] <xales> VoxelHead: What should I do now!?!?!
#3849 [23:45] <xales> ?? linux/dontdothis
#3850 [23:45] <VoxelHead> linux/dontdothis: :():{:&:};:
#3851 [23:45] <outsomnia> oh ew
#3852 [23:45] <xales> :|
#3853 [23:45] <Captain-Lightning> What?
#3854 [23:45] <xales> see, bad advice!
#3855 [23:45] <LordTrevor> I remember somone coming in the channel and saying "I have a question" and voxel chewed him out
#3856 [23:45] <xales> He does that....very rarely
#3857 [23:45] <Kealper> lol
#3858 [23:45] <xales> only when he is in a bad mood
#3859 [23:45] <xales> (the bot has "moods")
#3860 [23:46] <Kealper> even sexual preferences
#3861 [23:46] <Captain-Lightning> If I learn python it will only be to run an IRC bot, and to put a notch in my belt.
#3862 [23:46] <Kealper> which vary
#3863 [23:46] <xales> lol:
#3864 [23:46] <xales> 23:45:44 <VoxelHead> Current mood status:
#3865 [23:46] <xales> 23:45:44 <VoxelHead> happy: 0
#3866 [23:46] <xales> 23:45:44 <VoxelHead> horny: 0
#3867 [23:46] <xales> 23:45:44 <VoxelHead> lonely: 5
#3868 [23:46] <xales> 23:45:44 <VoxelHead> electricity: 2
#3869 [23:46] <xales> 23:45:44 <VoxelHead> stoned: 0
#3870 [23:46] <xales> >:|
#3871 [23:46] <Captain-Lightning> My goal is a language per year, for every year until I graduate.
#3872 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#3873 [23:46] <LordTrevor> wat?
#3874 [23:46] <xales> hmm
#3875 [23:46] <xales> !bmotion mood
#3876 [23:46] <Captain-Lightning> horny: 0
#3877 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Spam much?
#3878 [23:46] <xales> guess not
#3879 [23:47] <xales> GreyVulpine: I'm adjusting to a new font, it looked like 3 lines or so >.>
#3880 [23:47] <VoxelHead> woah cool, let me try that!
#3881 [23:47] <GreyBot> AuBot Your Ping time was 0.172 seconds.
#3882 [23:47] <Captain-Lightning> I will never understand why people are kicked and banned for posting something more than three lines that was relevant to a conversation that the op wasn't part of.
#3883 [23:48] <Kealper> most people hate it
#3884 [23:48] <Kealper> and normally...i dislike it too, to an extent
#3885 [23:48] <Captain-Lightning> Hate which end?
#3886 [23:48] <xales> Probably both :P
#3887 [23:48] <VoxelHead> Probably both... Proth.
#3888 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> So, how about them yankees?
#3889 [23:48] <Captain-Lightning> Vox is nuts.
#3890 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> They were awesome.
#3891 [23:49] <Captain-Lightning> What
#3892 [23:49] <Kealper> wait....
#3893 [23:49] <Kealper> wut?
#3894 [23:49] <Captain-Lightning> How dare you bring sports into a channel full of nerds.
#3895 [23:49] <VoxelHead> You're after my robot bee$*#$*@.
#3896 [23:49] * Captain-Lightning takes off his gloves
#3896 [23:49] <Captain-Lightning> Cubs fan myself though, in all seriousness.
#3897 [23:51] <Kealper> ok then...back to working on this failprogram
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#3899 [23:52] * Kealper RTFMs strlen()
#3899 [23:52] <xales> Kealper: This is why developing on (!Windows) is better
#3900 [23:52] <xales> just `man strlen`
#3901 [23:52] <xales> :)
#3902 [23:52] <VoxelHead> =]
#3903 [23:52] <xales> SYNOPSIS #include <string.h>
#3904 [23:52] <xales> size_t strlen(const char *s);
#3905 [23:52] <xales> DESCRIPTION The strlen() function calculates the length of the string s, not including the terminating '\0' character.
#3906 [23:53] <Kealper> yeah, i see that now
#3907 [23:53] <Kealper> ok now....another stupid pointer question
#3908 [23:53] <xales> ?
#3909 [23:53] <Kealper> if str is a char, "str" would be the pointer, right?
#3910 [23:54] <xales> no
#3911 [23:54] <Kealper> this whole dereferencing crap is still confusing
#3912 [23:54] <xales> if str is a char, then str is a char
#3913 [23:54] <xales> if str is a char *
#3914 [23:54] <xales> then str is a pointer
#3915 [23:54] <Kealper> *str is the pointer?
#3916 [23:54] <xales> no
#3917 [23:54] <Kealper> fuck this * damnit
#3918 [23:54] <xales> "char *str" = str is a pointer
#3919 [23:55] <xales> it means str is of type "char *"
#3920 [23:55] <xales> which is a poiter
#3921 [23:55] <xales> if you have a char
#3922 [23:55] <xales> a single har
#3923 [23:55] <xales> char*
#3924 [23:55] <xales> like, "char a = 'a';"
#3925 [23:55] <xales> then "&a" is a char *, which points to 'a'
#3926 [23:55] <xales> so, "char *derp = &a;"
#3927 [23:55] <xales> derp is now a pointer to 'a'
#3928 [23:56] <xales> and the variable a IS 'a'
#3929 [23:56] <Kealper> would make it a pointer to a's value?
#3930 [23:56] <Attemptedhippo> hey sorry to bother you guys so much tonight but from what im reading im supposed to set up a static IP and use that for the ports, then i give that IP to the friend who i want to play with right?
#3931 [23:56] <xales> Attemptedhippo: Once again, no
#3932 [23:56] <LordTrevor> my hacked reader on standby mode ^_^ http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii171/bretboy6/IMG_20110430_225148.jpg
#3933 [23:56] <xales> You have to give your friend your external IP
#3934 [23:56] <xales> you set up the port forward to your internal IP
#3935 [23:56] <xales> (ignore the static IP instructions on taht website)
#3936 [23:56] <Kealper> LordTrevor: lol
#3937 [23:57] <xales> Kealper: If the type contains * at the end, it's a pointer
#3938 [23:57] <xales> & and * are operators like + and -
#3939 [23:57] <xales> except when they are used in a type name
#3940 [23:57] <xales> (& is not valid in a type name, or if it is, it means nothing)
#3941 [23:57] <Attemptedhippo> the internal IP is that of the router itself and the external is my pesonal computer's connection IP right?
#3942 [23:58] <xales> Attemptedhippo: No, the internal IP is the IP of your computer (likely 192.168.x.x but not 192.168.x.1)
#3943 [23:58] <xales> your external IP is the one that looks significantly different, from whatismyip.com
#3944 [23:58] <Kealper> Attemptedhippo: type !myip
#3945 [23:58] <Kealper> in here
#3946 [23:59] <Attemptedhippo> ... id rather not, i know both ips and im opnly being carful because i know how easy it is to get hacked if you give out the wrong info
#3947 [23:59] <xales> Attemptedhippo: Giving out your IP doens't mean anything
#3948 [23:59] <xales> in fact, connecting anywhere tells what you are connecting to what your IP is
#3949 [23:59] <xales> I could just use a command here to find your IP ._.
#3950 [23:59] <Kealper> what he said
#3951 [23:59] <Kealper> i just told you to do it because i'm too lazy to tell you what your IP is