#1 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> bread has a bot?
#2 [00:00] <xales> Yeah, it's not here though
#3 [00:00] <xales> 23:46:10 <@EllieG> All right, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons? Don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! 'I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these?'
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#5 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#6 [00:00] <xales> 23:46:19 <@bread> LOL
#7 [00:00] <Kealper> bread: that...is so much win
#8 [00:00] <Orbitoid> Kealper: i approve of your idea. we need something like this for the lan that i go to often
#9 [00:01] <xales> Kealper: It's in #mcchatter
#10 [00:01] <xales> going nuts
#11 [00:01] <tws311> ahrg... his is miner311 from a min ago i seem to have made a ghost of me,,,
#12 [00:01] <tws311> this is i mean
#13 [00:01] <Kealper> there it goes lol
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#15 [00:01] <tws311> and it did not work in the other profile, it locked up the computer again
#16 [00:02] <xales> tws311: Do you have any antivirus software installed?
#17 [00:02] <tws311> spybot s&d and AVG
#18 [00:02] <Kealper> Orbitoid: O.o how would what i suggested be good for a lan party? unless..said server suffers from the same issue mine does...
#19 [00:03] <xales> tws311: AVG free or the full suite?
#20 [00:03] <tws311> full suite
#21 [00:04] <bread> lol
#22 [00:04] <bread> Ellie has turned into GLaDOS
#23 [00:04] <bread> .___.
#24 [00:04] <xales> tws311: I'd try disabling all of it, then see if it still works
#25 [00:05] <tws311> yah? fire walls and all, okay , its frustrateing cuz every try ends up with a full restart of the computer ill be back if it works or not
#26 [00:06] <Orbitoid> quick update on my issue: tried without screen - crashed after a few mins, tried with only 512mb of ram outside of screen -crashed after a few mins
#27 [00:06] <Orbitoid> checked server.log nothing in there telling me what happened
#28 [00:07] <xales> Orbitoid: Vanilla server, or is it running any mods?
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#30 [00:09] <Orbitoid> vanilla
#31 [00:09] <Orbitoid> i have also tried with bukkit
#32 [00:09] <Orbitoid> same issue
#33 [00:09] <xales> what kind of server is this running on?
#34 [00:09] <Orbitoid> vps
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#36 [00:10] <Orbitoid> ubuntu 2.5GB ram not sure of the cpu, good net connection (yet to test the speed of it though), hosted in the US somewhere
#37 [00:10] <xales> what provider?
#38 [00:11] <miner311> sigh yah that didnt help froze up as soon as the green bar hit the end
#39 [00:11] <xales> miner311: It sounds like something might be...seriously wrong with your computer
#40 [00:11] <Orbitoid> http://virpus.com/budget-vps/
#41 [00:11] <Orbitoid> elite vps
#42 [00:11] <VoxelHead> purple dildos
#43 [00:12] <miner311> eve, Leauge of ledgends... hmm solitare... netflix all work, so i dont know what that could be
#44 [00:12] <xales> miner311: Try playing Minecraft classic, http://minecraft.net/play.jsp
#45 [00:12] <miner311> what other stuff uses java that i could try ? maybe thats it
#46 [00:12] <miner311> yup tried that it locks up too
#47 [00:13] <xales> Orbitoid: Can you give me the output of `cat /proc/user_beancounters`?
#48 [00:13] <xales> (pastebin it)
#49 [00:13] <xales> miner311: It sounds like a Java issue then
#50 [00:13] <xales> miner311: Uninstall Java, then download and run CCleaner (both cleanup and registry scan, run the registry scan until it has no errors or a single error), then reboot, then install Java
#51 [00:14] <miner311> "CCleaner" ?
#52 [00:14] <xales> It's a program
#53 [00:15] <xales> It removed garbage left behind by programs
#54 [00:15] <miner311> yah i found it okay java is going away be back in a few min
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#58 [00:21] <Orbitoid> xales: http://pastebin.com/bVU71JgT
#59 [00:22] <xales> Orbitoid: That's...really weird
#60 [00:22] * VoxelHead is away: code
#60 [00:22] <xales> I have no idea what it would do that...
#61 [00:22] <xales> if there's nothing else on the server, I'd suggest completely reimaging it and trying again
#62 [00:22] <xales> oh, however
#63 [00:22] <xales> double-check the permissions of the server binary, and the folder it's in
#64 [00:22] <xales> it might be permission-related
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#66 [00:23] <Orbitoid> i thought that so i made everyone have full rwx access to the folder
#67 [00:23] <Orbitoid> re-imaging the box might not be an option :(
#68 [00:23] <miner311> okay ran cc cleaner shoudl i try re down loading the client again or just run the broser version ?
#69 [00:23] <miner311> browser
#70 [00:23] <arcanis> is there a way to prevent race conditions ?
#71 [00:23] <arcanis> (by switching a lever to quickly)
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#73 [00:27] <Orbitoid> ok so i'll start this vps from scratch
#74 [00:27] <Orbitoid> what is the best way to install java (so that i dont stuff that up from the start)
#75 [00:28] <xales> Orbitoid
#76 [00:28] <xales> ?? java/linux/debian
#77 [00:28] <VoxelHead> java/linux/debian: While OpenJDK is reported to work just fine, you probably want to install the Oracle JRE, which is in the sun-java6-jre package
#78 [00:28] <VoxelHead> java/linux/debian: To install it, `sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java`
#79 [00:28] <xales> ^
#80 [00:29] <Orbitoid> ok cool thanks (again) xales
#81 [00:29] <Orbitoid> i'll try all that and let you know how i get on
#82 [00:29] <AG_Scott> Kealper, /mode +b *!*@pool-71-126-62-172.bstnma.east.verizon.net
#83 [00:29] <AG_Scott> kgo
#84 [00:30] <xales> AG_Scott: wuzzat
#85 [00:30] <Kealper> ok, now why did i just do that? lol
#86 [00:30] <AG_Scott> You know who...
#87 [00:30] <xales> AG_Scott: I don't remember
#88 [00:30] <AG_Scott> His name starts with A.
#89 [00:30] <xales> I do recognize the IP though
#90 [00:30] <xales> Oh, right
#91 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Who is that?
#92 [00:31] <AG_Scott> I just said in #omgthisisnotreal
#93 [00:31] * GreyVulpine blinks
#93 [00:31] * Kealper waits for people to actually join that channel
#93 [00:31] <AG_Scott> lol ikr
#94 [00:32] <Kealper> surprizingly...no one
#95 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> So... who's pool-71-126-62-172.bstnma.east.verizon.net
#96 [00:33] <xales> GreyVulpine: Someone banned via VoxelHead already anyway, I think
#97 [00:33] <Orbitoid> ok what is a good linux distro to go with if i just want minecraft to run on it (and i cant use a custom one like mineos)
#98 [00:33] <xales> Orbitoid: I'd try Ubuntu, probably
#99 [00:34] <AG_Scott> Please don't use desktop edition.
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#101 [00:34] <Orbitoid> xales: good. I'm going with: Ubuntu 10.04 x86 64 bit
#102 [00:34] <Orbitoid> is that good?
#103 [00:34] <xales> Sure
#104 [00:34] <KennethClark> help! How do i register my name?
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#106 [00:34] <KennethClark> how do i register my name
#107 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#108 [00:34] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#109 [00:34] <miner311> okay none of that worked any other ideas
#110 [00:34] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#111 [00:35] <KennethClark> ok
#112 [00:35] <KennethClark> thanks
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#115 [00:39] <miner311> erm,,, should i try useing somthing other than firefox could that be my problem ?
#116 [00:40] <xales> No, if the downloaded one also breaks
#117 [00:40] <xales> It sounds like something is very wrong with your computer. I'd suggest reformatting it
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#119 [00:41] <Orbitoid> xales: i tried apt-get install sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java and it told me:
#120 [00:41] <Orbitoid> Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
#121 [00:41] <Orbitoid> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
#122 [00:41] <Orbitoid> is only available from another source
#123 [00:41] <Orbitoid> E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate
#124 [00:42] <xales> Orbitoid: You need to enable it in the repository
#125 [00:42] <xales> I don't know how to do that, ask AG_Scott
#126 [00:42] <Orbitoid> ah i think i did this before
#127 [00:43] <Orbitoid> I'm not going to try it myself without instruction just incase i stuffed it up last time
#128 [00:44] <AG_Scott> Did you enable the partners repo?
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#130 [00:44] <Orbitoid> AG_Scott: i dont think so
#131 [00:44] <Orbitoid> i'm not sure how
#132 [00:45] <tws311> ...dmt okay xales any other ideas .... ?
#133 [00:45] <xales> tws311: Beyond reformatting, not really
#134 [00:45] <tws311> if not how do i get a refund for this game
#135 [00:46] <xales> Email support@mojang.com
#136 [00:46] <xales> and tell them it doesn't work
#137 [00:46] <tws311> hmm think not on the reformat i upgraded my HD's about 3 months ago i cant see this being the only thing wrong if its somthign that needs a reformat
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#139 [00:46] <xales> The entire computer locking up is a serious problem that you should probably fix, as it might lead to other problems later
#140 [00:47] <tws311> okay thanks for your time then, yah i know that but how to fix it, i guess i could do the windows 7 upgrade
#141 [00:47] <Orbitoid> AG_Scott: how do i do what you suggested above?
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#143 [00:48] <AG_Scott> Is this server edition?
#144 [00:49] <Orbitoid> yeah
#145 [00:50] <AG_Scott> are you root?
#146 [00:50] <Orbitoid> yup
#147 [00:50] <Orbitoid> for now
#148 [00:50] <AG_Scott> nano /etc/apt/sources.list
#149 [00:51] <AG_Scott> uncomment the canonical partners repo
#150 [00:51] <AG_Scott> apt-get update and apt-get install sun-java6-jre/jdk
#151 [00:51] <Orbitoid> It doesnt have anything commented out
#152 [00:52] <AG_Scott> then add it
#153 [00:52] <Orbitoid> maybe it isnt server?
#154 [00:53] <Orbitoid> so to do that i just add: deb http://archive.cannonical.com/ubuntu ?
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#156 [00:55] <Orbitoid> AG_Scott: or should i add: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner
#157 [00:55] <AG_Scott> Are you using lucid?
#158 [00:56] <Orbitoid> no i dont think so
#159 [00:57] <Orbitoid> so just that without the lucid partner bit?
#160 [01:00] <xales> Orbitoid: No, you have to find the one for your version
#161 [01:00] <xales> AG_Scott: 10.04 = lucid?
#162 [01:00] <Orbitoid> ah ok
#163 [01:00] <AG_Scott> yes
#164 [01:01] <AG_Scott> 10.10 = maverick
#165 [01:01] <AG_Scott> 11.04 = natty
#166 [01:01] <xales> Orbitoid: that is the line you should use, then
#167 [01:01] <Orbitoid> i think i am running 10.04
#168 [01:01] <xales> including the "lucid partner" bit
#169 [01:01] <Orbitoid> yeah
#170 [01:01] <Orbitoid> ok all done and installed now just to run the server again and see how i go
#171 [01:02] <Orbitoid> ok its running now with 1Gb of RAM. within screen all fresh and new. I'll see how long it lasts for
#172 [01:02] <Orbitoid> anyway thanks again for all your help
#173 [01:02] <Orbitoid> i'll see you later
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#174 [01:06] * xales is VoxelHead
#174 [01:06] <VoxelHead> merki
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#178 [01:19] <Ahimoth> Anyone albe to give me a bit of help with an 'End of Stream' error ?
#179 [01:20] <xales> Do you get the error on one server, or all of them?
#180 [01:20] <Ahimoth> One server that I have been playing on for a few weeks.
#181 [01:21] <xales> Try another server, see if you can connect there
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#183 [01:21] <Ahimoth> I have, and I can just fine.
#184 [01:22] <Ahimoth> It just seems to be the one particular server that I decided to spend the most time and effort on >.<
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#186 [01:24] <xales> Ahimoth: It's a problem the server admin needs to fix
#187 [01:24] <xales> your player data got corrupted, and they need to delete it
#188 [01:24] <Ahimoth> Awesome =[
#189 [01:25] <xales> you should probably contact them about that
#190 [01:25] <Ahimoth> That I will. Thanks for the help =D
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#207 [02:05] <Orbitoid> ok back
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#209 [02:05] <Orbitoid> i just tried running the server again
#210 [02:05] <Orbitoid> still crashed after a few mins
#211 [02:06] <Orbitoid> i have just fully re-installed linux (ubuntu 10.04) and installed java and redownloaded the server.jar file
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#213 [02:06] <Orbitoid> I'm really not sure whats happening
#214 [02:06] <xales> Orbitoid: I think it might be an issue with either how you are running the server (try running it as root, maybe?)
#215 [02:06] <xales> or with the VPS itself not liking that
#216 [02:07] <Orbitoid> should i maybe try a different distro?
#217 [02:08] <Orbitoid> debian or something?
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#219 [02:08] <Orbitoid> i'll try it as root
#220 [02:09] <xales> I doubt it's an issue with the distro, or it would be more common
#221 [02:09] <xales> I'd try it as root, otherwise contact the support for it I guess
#222 [02:09] <Orbitoid> support for the vps or minecraft?
#223 [02:09] <xales> VPS
#224 [02:10] <xales> Minecraft has no official support for anything but account issues
#225 [02:10] <xales> we're it
#226 [02:10] <Orbitoid> thats what i thought
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#246 [03:06] <Nomeru> was told you guys might be more apt to assisting me, if there is such a way. I'm working on an idea but been struggling with it just a bit. my idea: a city, with a large portion underground, after clearing out said portion, a 183 radius circle (or there abouts) is what I want
#247 [03:06] <Bizzi> hi i have problem i don't remember my password and my email what can i do ?
#248 [03:07] <Nomeru> should probably go to #help
#249 [03:07] <Bizzi> thx
#250 [03:07] <Nomeru> yep
#251 [03:07] <Nomeru> I've seen several tools out there that are very good at removing large squares.
#252 [03:08] <Nomeru> I'm wondering if there's something similar to say, MCedit, that can remove a cylinder?
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#254 [03:11] <Ehrehin> every time i forget the command to ident my nick
#255 [03:11] <xales> Nomeru: #help is only for IRC issues, and I don't think they were talking about an IRC problem
#256 [03:12] <Nomeru> just remember /ns identify <password>
#257 [03:12] <Ehrehin> ok
#258 [03:12] <Nomeru> xales my first thought is he meant for irc, but sorry after you say that I see he could have meant something else
#259 [03:12] <xales> Ehrehin: If you get a better client, you can have it do it automatically for you
#260 [03:13] <xales> Mibbit is a iece of shit
#261 [03:13] <xales> piece*
#262 [03:13] <Ehrehin> lol
#263 [03:14] <Ehrehin> name one and i'll use it\
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#265 [03:15] <NotiCon> os?
#266 [03:15] <xales> Ehrehin: What OS?
#267 [03:16] <Ehrehin> win 7
#268 [03:16] <Ehrehin> homepremium
#269 [03:16] <xales> Ehrehin: There's PChat, mIRC, Quassel, kvirc...
#270 [03:16] <xales> there are quite a few
#271 [03:16] <xales> mIRC is not totally "free"
#272 [03:16] <xales> all the others are
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#274 [03:16] <xales> (mIRC just nags you to buy it)
#275 [03:16] <NotiCon> think there is irssi aswell at least i saw it had a windows version of it
#276 [03:17] <xales> NotiCon: It does "work" on Windows, but it's definately not for the beginner, and it works like shit
#277 [03:17] <Nomeru> mirc has workarounds, or ... you can just buy it.
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#279 [03:18] <xales> Nomeru: You can just wait at the nag screens
#280 [03:18] <xales> or crack it or buy it
#281 [03:18] <xales> :P
#282 [03:18] <Nomeru> I'm well aware
#283 [03:18] <xales> I thought by "workarounds" you just meant cracks :|
#284 [03:18] <Nomeru> after 2 years of use, I decided to buy it, but kinda lost my info, so been cracking it since then
#285 [03:19] <Ehrehin> well I doubt anyhere can get me unbanned for nuts Antigrief freebuils
#286 [03:19] <Ehrehin> from*U
#287 [03:19] <Ehrehin> .... fail
#288 [03:20] <xales> Ehrehin: Why would we be able to unban you from a server we don't run?
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#290 [03:20] <Ehrehin> thats what i meant
#291 [03:21] <Ehrehin> I doubt you could
#292 [03:22] <Ehrehin> quetion I am trying to set up a classic server yet my routers ports are open and yet no one can connect to it?
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#294 [03:22] <xales> Ehrehin: I can't really help with Classic, but either you didn't port forward correctly or you aren't running it correctly
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#298 [03:24] <Ehrehin> i set it up the way the read me told me to
#299 [03:24] <Ehrehin> and yet nothing
#300 [03:24] <xales> Doesn't mean you are running it properly
#301 [03:24] <xales> The readme describes how to run it on a server
#302 [03:25] <xales> you probably aren't doing that, since you mentioned a router
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#304 [03:26] <Ehrehin> wait so it donesn't tell me how to set my router so other people can get on? i am so lost
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#306 [03:26] <xales> The readme wouldn't tell you how to, no
#307 [03:27] <lemon-rev> ehrehin look up your router on the net and then look for portforwarding
#308 [03:27] <xales> because that's quite specific to people hosting off of home connections, which the server wasn't designed for, as well as specifically what router you have
#309 [03:27] <VoxelHead> and thaaan?
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#311 [03:28] <Ehrehin> it's a at&t Router and all ports a open
#312 [03:28] <Ehrehin> but idk my brain is fryed
#313 [03:29] <lemon-rev> ehrehin you might have to port forward to a particular address on a port instead of just leaving it open but if its still not working can you get past your router or is it part of the internet as well ?
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#316 [03:30] <Ehrehin> well her is the thing i can connet to it yet no one else can
#317 [03:30] <Ehrehin> here*
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#319 [03:30] <xales> You are probably giving them the wrong IP then, or you haven't port forwarded correctly (you do not need to, to connect to your own server)
#320 [03:31] <Trel> I'm running a server (up to date) and on stairs, it's not doing the lighting correctly on stairs, mainly it's going black whenever light changes after placing it
#321 [03:31] <xales> Trel: There's some weird bug with stair lighting, at the moment
#322 [03:31] <xales> Not sure what causes it
#323 [03:31] <lemon-rev> sorry xales for butting in when you where helping ehrehin
#324 [03:31] <xales> lemon-rev: Not an issue
#325 [03:32] <lemon-rev> :)
#326 [03:32] <VoxelHead> ;)
#327 [03:32] <Ehrehin> I have so many ip addresses it's confusing
#328 [03:32] <lemon-rev> what you mean ?
#329 [03:32] <xales> Ehrehin: No, you actually have two
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#331 [03:32] <xales> your router has an internal and external address, and your computer has an internal address
#332 [03:32] <Ehrehin> I have att u-verse and each box has it's own ip
#333 [03:33] <Ehrehin> two boxes plus the router
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#335 [03:33] <xales> "boxes"?
#336 [03:34] <lemon-rev> xales i think he needs to show us what hes looking at xales
#337 [03:35] <Trel> xales: so it's not something specific I've done then
#338 [03:36] <lemon-rev> Trel i belive thats correct
#339 [03:38] <Nomeru> ... who unpluged that server?
#340 [03:38] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: did it, right vox?
#341 [03:38] <VoxelHead> Www.aj.com.
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#344 [03:46] <lemon-rev> is there something you can build over crops that will stop animals from walking over them ?
#345 [03:47] <NotiCon> fence?
#346 [03:47] <lemon-rev> thought fence only keept them in
#347 [03:47] <NotiCon> or just make a glass house?
#348 [03:47] <lemon-rev> its a high rise platform
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#350 [03:48] <NotiCon> D:
#351 [03:48] <lemon-rev> and i was thinking put glass over the mounds that i want to grow wheat on and just make a platform of windows
#352 [03:49] <Nomeru> Hey gots a question-do you guys know of a mod or tool that, in a similar fashon to say MCedit, would allow me to select/remove blocks in a cylinder/circular pattern rather than a square?
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#426 [04:54] <lemon-rev> i wonder if when it rains its possible to have like droplets run down the screen to say that your dripping wet:P
#427 [04:54] <NotiCon> not with java
#428 [04:55] <lemon-rev> doh
#429 [04:55] <lemon-rev> havent they like tryed changing the code from java to something else ?
#430 [04:55] <dopeghoti> short version: no
#431 [04:55] <lemon-rev> lol
#432 [04:55] <lemon-rev> ok
#433 [04:55] <NotiCon> long version noooooooooo?
#434 [04:56] <lemon-rev> hahahahha
#435 [04:56] <dopeghoti> long version, "hell no".
#436 [04:56] <NotiCon> oh
#437 [04:56] <lemon-rev> dopeghoti they mentioned they where going to redo the code though, so hm, oh well good luck wich either they choose
#438 [04:57] <dopeghoti> [citation needed]
#439 [04:57] <NotiCon> redoing the code could just be making the code better
#440 [04:57] <NotiCon> not redoing it in another language
#441 [04:57] <lemon-rev> well thats true in it self
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#463 [06:30] <alphie> (7:59:53 PM) alphie: I am recently tried playing minecraft connecting to a server in texas. My current internet connection is satellite. I am experiencing repeated "Connection Lost. End of Stream."
#464 [06:30] <alphie> (7:59:53 PM) alphie: I am making the assumption that the server is disconnecting me because of the latency on my connection. Is there a server setting which can be increased to reduce the timeout disconnect I appear to be experiencing ?
#465 [06:32] <[z]> Try other servers..
#466 [06:35] <NotiCon> alphie: it could be cause there is too much loss in the data you get and recieve from the server so that the client and server just agrees to throw you off
#467 [06:37] <m0nk> guess who's dead?
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#469 [06:37] <NotiCon> m0nk: uh uh some random guy down the hallway?
#470 [06:38] <m0nk> bin laden
#471 [06:38] <NotiCon> :/
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#473 [06:39] <m0nk> connection lost end of stream isnt that different version of the server?
#474 [06:40] <NotiCon> could also be
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#476 [06:42] <alphie> does anyone have a list of publicly accessible servers ?
#477 [06:43] <NotiCon> ?? smp
#478 [06:43] <VoxelHead> smp: Survival Multi-Player
#479 [06:43] <NotiCon> ?? smp/servers
#480 [06:43] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#481 [06:43] <m0nk> http://mcserverlist.net/servers/
#482 [06:43] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#483 [06:43] <alphie> thank you
#484 [06:45] <m0nk> http://nyheter.no.msn.com/utenriks/artikkel.aspx?cp-documentid=157250846
#485 [06:47] <NotiCon> could you link it in english instead? D:
#486 [06:47] <m0nk> k
#487 [06:48] <m0nk> http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnyheter.no.msn.com%2Futenriks%2Fartikkel.aspx%3Fcp-documentid%3D157250846&act=url
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#489 [06:57] <m0nk> here's a speech
#490 [06:57] <m0nk> http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2011/05/01/president-obama-death-osama-bin-laden
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#517 [09:21] <Sinistrahd> Has anyone heard any reports of issues with minecraft's credit card payment site? I've tried to pay for the game twice, triple-checked everything was entered properly, and ensured things like caps lock weren't on, all to no avail, keep getting transaction errors.
#518 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> Sinistrahd - Yes, we have heard of some complaints of the DIBS credit card system. Try Paypal
#519 [09:23] <Sinistrahd> the paypal site doesn't allow direct-from-bank transfers
#520 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> Hmm? Paypal can link to bank accounts.
#521 [09:23] <Sinistrahd> was hoping not to have to wait 1-3 days for money to transfer from my bank to paypal and then pay from the paypal balance if possible
#522 [09:24] <Sinistrahd> yeah and I have it linked
#523 [09:24] <Morrolan> You can pay with your credit card via PayPal.
#524 [09:24] <Morrolan> So no need to wait 1-
#525 [09:24] <Sinistrahd> but on the payment page it says echecks not allowed and there is nowhere for me to select my bank account other than there
#526 [09:24] <Morrolan> 1-3 days, should be instant*
#527 [09:24] <Sinistrahd> I haven't done a balance transfer with paypal since I was an active ebay user back around 2003 so I guess it might be faster now :P
#528 [09:25] <Morrolan> No, it's not. But you can pay with your credit card via Paypal.
#529 [09:25] <Sinistrahd> Well my CC is actually a debit card but I haven't linked this one up yet. Guess I'll do that
#530 [09:26] <Morrolan> Simply use the "Pay with PayPal" option, and instead of entering your account credentials you can enter your card information on the left.
#531 [09:26] <Sinistrahd> thanks for the suggestions
#532 [09:26] <Morrolan> Euhm, you're welcome.
#533 [09:27] <Morrolan> Sinistrahd: Can't you just enter your card stuff here: http://i.imgur.com/ObfuO.jpg ?
#534 [09:28] <Morrolan> Oh, debit card, lemme google.
#535 [09:28] <Sinistrahd> I'm attempting to enter it now
#536 [09:28] <Morrolan> Ok.
#537 [09:28] <Sinistrahd> My page looks a little different (aside from the language)
#538 [09:29] <Morrolan> Well, when did you get that page? YOu don't need to login to your paypal account.
#539 [09:29] <Morrolan> By simply using the "pay with PayPal" option on minecraft.net I got there. :/
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#541 [09:29] <Sinistrahd> I had to click a couple links to get to that here
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#543 [09:30] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok.
#544 [09:30] <Sinistrahd> they might have different pages based on ip localization since different statesa and countries have different laws about how online transactions occur
#545 [09:30] <Sinistrahd> looks like I am good to go now though
#546 [09:31] <Morrolan> Yea, could be that it depends on your country. Anyway, glad it works though.
#547 [09:31] <Sinistrahd> I'm glad I finally got my wife to let me get MC :P been watching friends comment about it and people play it on youtube and foaming at the mouth
#548 [09:31] <Morrolan> Heh, might be that your wife wants to buy it in some days as well. :p
#549 [09:32] <Sinistrahd> perhaps, but her time is taken up with her job. She's a veterinarian, which means tons of hours dealing with the aftermath of owners who think they know how to keep their pets healthy without taking her advice
#550 [09:33] <Sinistrahd> hmm it disallowed using that card but on the "it's not allowed" screen it gave me the instant transfer option
#551 [09:34] <Sinistrahd> paypal is like a maze here :P
#552 [09:34] <Sinistrahd> finally, that worked
#553 [09:35] <Sinistrahd> thanks again. adios
#554 [09:35] <Morrolan> Cya
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#564 [10:11] <sabindark> hello
#565 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#567 [10:12] <sabindark> i just had a question about lanning on mc without an internet connection
#568 [10:12] <Morrolan> Yea?
#569 [10:12] <sabindark> is it posible
#570 [10:12] <Morrolan> Uh yep, sort of.
#571 [10:12] <Morrolan> You'll have to set online-mode=false in server.properties
#572 [10:12] <sabindark> with out useing a mem editor
#573 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> An internet connection is needed for minecraft to authenticate usernames in MP.
#574 [10:13] <Morrolan> However, you have to sign in with your clients online before, else you won't have proper usernames.
#575 [10:13] <sabindark> ya i know
#576 [10:13] <sabindark> so i have the double player problem
#577 [10:13] <sabindark> but i do have 2 registered accounts
#578 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, there's no legal way of doing that.
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#580 [10:14] <sabindark> ... sigh so ur saying its imposible
#581 [10:14] <Morrolan> Well, if you'd sign in with your clients while you HAVE internet connection, move to the LAN and connect to the server then, it should work.
#582 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> ^
#583 [10:14] <Morrolan> Is not the most practical solution though. ^^
#584 [10:14] <sabindark> i dont have an internet conection there
#585 [10:15] <GreyVulpine> Then there's really no way of doing a true LAN session without an internet connection for the minecraft server to authenticate with
#586 [10:15] <sabindark> i have to leave my house right now to use the internet
#587 [10:15] <sabindark> i know about the trick where u use the quick mem editor but its never a sure thing
#588 [10:17] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/64744695552675840 <- Think it was you who was here when some guy had this as well? If this is really caused by a pirated client (which would make sense), then this guy who tweeted him is quite stupid. ^^
#589 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Oh bleh, really?
#590 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's a result of a modified hosts file.
#591 [10:17] <Morrolan> Though Mollstam seems to think it's because of a Mod.
#592 [10:17] * GreyVulpine has seen that page before
#592 [10:18] <Morrolan> Yea, must have been you then. Was like four days ago or so I think.
#593 [10:18] <sabindark> i havent looked at the tweet but i did see the forum posts
#594 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> Might have been, I've lost count of how many times I've had to fix modified hosts
#595 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> I remember the first time I diagnosed that here, couldn't believe it.
#596 [10:19] <sabindark> well then short of modding host files im sol
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#598 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> (thought it was a screwed up DNS, did /flushdns, did different dns solution)
#599 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't until I had that person ping that I noticed the IP address didn't exactly match up with what I had for it, wasn't localhost..
#600 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Was some weird 99. address
#601 [10:23] <Morrolan> Hmm yea, the more popular hacked clients get the more often we'll see this I guess.
#602 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Yeah..
#603 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> I kept seeing stuff like this at the start:
#604 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/TQ1wR3Pf
#605 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Now it's just localhost.
#606 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> They're are slowly transitioning to modified clients now though, no hosts modification needed
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#608 [10:26] <Morrolan> Oh well, sooner or later most of them will want to play SMP though, and then they end up here. ''
#609 [10:26] <Morrolan> ^^*
#610 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Good indicator of that, Title of the minecraft client will say something like "Minecraft n00b edition"...
#611 [10:26] <Morrolan> Haha, good to know.
#612 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Some of those are MP capable, all they need to get are lists of servers without authentication.
#613 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Back when Hamachi was first mentioned in here, we all naturally assumed it was for pirated copies, because of that.
#614 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> .. and some were.
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#616 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, here's a screenshot of the cracked MC window: http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/dnovosard1/5555555.jpg?t=1304222509
#617 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> Also note the, no password field
#618 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb442/dnovosard1/Capture-2.jpg?t=1304222510
#619 [10:30] <sabindark> do yall know if notch will ever implement a way to play on lan without internet? or is it to likely to promote pirating
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#621 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> sabindark - We don't know.
#622 [10:31] <sabindark> i was just askin for yalls opions
#623 [10:31] <Morrolan> Yall? What do you think?
#624 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Personally, I don't think he will, for the reason you specified.
#625 [10:32] <sabindark> ya dam
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#627 [10:32] <sabindark> kinda what i figured
#628 [10:33] * GreyVulpine pokes Morrolan - http://twitter.com/#!/godgodgodgo/status/64805015793041408
#628 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> The guy replied back, was his friend...
#629 [10:33] <Morrolan> Ah, there we go.
#630 [10:33] <Morrolan> And yea, using the most common "response". :D
#631 [10:33] * GreyVulpine shrugs.
#631 [10:33] <Morrolan> I still want to see someone claiming it was hist mother.
#632 [10:33] <Morrolan> his*
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#634 [10:33] <NotiCon> was his "friend"
#635 [10:34] <Morrolan> Oh well, guess he's fine now. :)
#636 [10:34] <themen10> hi i have a problem looking into my mc account can any1 help please? D:
#637 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> themen10 - What problem?
#638 [10:34] <themen10> it says login failed
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#640 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> themen10 - And you're sure you're using the right login info? Can you log into the website with the same info?
#641 [10:35] <themen10> i know i have the right password and account name cause i have it all rememberd on the launcher and in notepad
#642 [10:35] <themen10> same on the website
#643 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> themen10 - Try typing it manually into both the website and the launcher
#644 [10:35] <themen10> tride it :(
#645 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't work for either?
#646 [10:35] <themen10> nope
#647 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> Then your only recourse is to use the account recovery option here: http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#648 [10:36] <themen10> i cant use that because my account was given to me from a friend over vent
#649 [10:36] <themen10> i changed pass when i got it tho so he cant know it
#650 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to contact him, because he can change it back
#651 [10:37] <themen10> ok i need to wait for him to get on :(
#652 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> All it takes is access to the email address registered under the account
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#654 [10:37] <themen10> ty anyways
#655 [10:37] <themen10> is there anyway to change the e-mail?
#656 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#657 [10:37] <themen10> :/
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#659 [10:39] <It> anyone in need of helping?
#660 [10:39] <It> <.< >.>
#661 [10:41] <sabindark> yes but you cant help me
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#663 [10:43] <It> youre sure about that?
#664 [10:43] <It> I can't fix hardware problems
#665 [10:44] <sabindark> its not hardware i have a midy fine computer
#666 [10:44] <sabindark> i have to hoast a 2 player lan server without internet
#667 [10:44] <It> lan server?
#668 [10:44] <It> thats cake
#669 [10:44] <It> just install and run, and connect to lan ips
#670 [10:44] <sabindark> with no internet is the problem
#671 [10:45] <It> do you have the server?
#672 [10:45] <It> just get it and install it like normal
#673 [10:45] <sabindark> ya im hoasting it but i dont have internet at my house
#674 [10:45] <sabindark> so i cant have 2 people log on at the same time
#675 [10:45] <It> youre trying to do this over lan correct?
#676 [10:45] <sabindark> yes
#677 [10:46] <It> I think you can
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#679 [10:46] <It> as long as they're not the same user
#680 [10:46] <sabindark> it logs you both in as player and boots the first one
#681 [10:46] <It> which you cant do anyway
#682 [10:46] <It> mm in that case
#683 [10:47] <It> I can still help you, i'm just not sure I should
#684 [10:47] <It> whats your minecraft username
#685 [10:47] <sabindark> lol i have 2
#686 [10:47] <It> pick one
#687 [10:47] <sabindark> sabindark and mythdranel
#688 [10:47] <It> !haspaid sabindrak
#689 [10:47] <It> !haspaid sabindark
#690 [10:48] <It> ?haspaid sabindark
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#692 [10:48] <It> vox are you sleeping
#693 [10:48] <It> ...
#694 [10:48] <It> oh, well, crow works
#695 [10:48] <It> come to #risucraft
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#697 [10:48] <sabindark> who
#698 [10:48] <Morrolan> it's !paid, IT
#699 [10:49] <Morrolan> !paid sabindark
#700 [10:49] <It> too many bots, can't remember all of them
#701 [10:49] <sabindark> i need one sec
#702 [10:49] <sabindark> brb
#703 [10:49] <It> anywho, I believe the mcp client can allow you to spoof a name on an offline multiplayer server
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#705 [10:50] <sabindark> how so
#706 [10:50] <sabindark> and whats mcp?
#707 [10:51] <It> theres a channel for that too
#708 [10:51] <It> #mcp
#709 [10:51] <It> mcp is rather complex stuff and installing it might be difficult
#710 [10:51] <sabindark> what is it though
#711 [10:52] <It> its short for minecraft coder pack
#712 [10:52] <It> its modding related, and as such, you will get no official support here for it
#713 [10:52] <It> you don't have to install any mods to use it (though you do have to decompile minecraft)
#714 [10:53] <sabindark> lol well im just reaching right now
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#716 [10:53] <It> its a quick easy process if you know what you're doing, otherwise it could take a while
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#718 [10:53] <sabindark> nethin will work
#719 [10:53] <sabindark> can i do it offline after i dl what ever
#720 [10:54] <It> anyway, if youre interested, join #mcp, read the topic, follow the download links, get it set up, and there should be a note somewhere on how to spoof a name on a multiplayer server
#721 [10:54] <It> if there isnt I bet one of the people there can tell you how to do it
#722 [10:55] <sabindark> ok well thx for your help i never would have gotten this far
#723 [10:55] <It> np
#724 [10:55] <It> told you i could help
#725 [10:55] * It 's wizardry is great and It's kung fu is strong
#725 [10:55] <sabindark> lol well guess i should give you credit
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#727 [10:56] <It> I'm here a lot, even if im idle most of the time
#728 [10:56] <It> _303, you can use mcp to spoof a name on a multiplayer server right?
#729 [10:56] <_303> It: don't need mcp for that
#730 [10:56] <It> sabindark is trying to play on a lan w/o internet connection
#731 [10:57] <It> i know, but its debatably the easiest seeing as it doesnt require a mod
#732 [10:57] <sabindark> i can do a mod ive been modding all week
#733 [10:57] <It> anyway, as is, vanilla forces online nick 'player' with no connection
#734 [10:57] <It> _303 can probably help you better than I can
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#737 [10:58] <bobd0le> is there anyway to bind walk to mouse4? the ingame controls doesnt recognise the mouse
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#739 [10:58] <sabindark> so _303 how would u do it
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#741 [10:59] <It> crow should've just sent you a pm with a minecraft testing script that has name spoofing capabilities
#742 [11:00] <It> read and follow the instructions
#743 [11:00] <It> the last sentence deals with how to spoof a name
#744 [11:00] <sabindark> ok thx
#745 [11:01] <It> (that was _303, not me, I haven't been around long enough to memorize all of the crow commands yet)
#746 [11:01] <It> so thank him too
#747 [11:01] <bobd0le> anyone? :o
#748 [11:01] <It> no clue
#749 [11:01] <sabindark> ya thx _303
#750 [11:02] <It> probably not bobd0le, at least not yet
#751 [11:02] <Morrolan> bobd0le: Using a makro I guess.
#752 [11:02] <It> that would always work
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#754 [11:03] <bobd0le> how would i make a macro so that mouse4 was walk?
#755 [11:04] <Morrolan> Use any sort of software which allows you to bind mouse4 to w.
#756 [11:04] * w blinks.
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#757 [11:04] <Morrolan> XD
#758 [11:04] <bobd0le> haha
#759 [11:05] <bobd0le> but wouldnt that messup my mouse4 outside minecraft too?
#760 [11:05] <Morrolan> Euhm, depends on the software you'd use for that.
#761 [11:06] <Morrolan> If it's intelligent enough it'll allow you to only be active while Minecraft is running.
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#763 [11:08] <sabindark> ok i have it now thx for yalls help ill have to take this home and test it
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#770 [11:30] <Kealper> the hell...
#771 [11:30] <Kealper> my brother sent me a package in the mail...
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#773 [11:31] <Kealper> and it's packaged with duct tape instead of packaging tape...lol
#774 [11:32] <NotiCon> awesome
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#790 [12:21] <sith> im a terorist
#791 [12:22] <oldtopman> Are you anti-obama?
#792 [12:22] <osama_bin_laden> im gonna blow u all up
#793 [12:22] <oldtopman> Are you anti-obama?
#794 [12:22] * sammaelt patpats sith
#794 [12:22] <bobd0le> a terrorist with bad spelling is no threat at all
#795 [12:22] <osama_bin_laden> suck my dick
#796 [12:22] <oldtopman> osama_bin_laden: Are you anti-obama though?
#797 [12:23] <osama_bin_laden> obama sucks my dick evry night
#798 [12:23] <vapor> probably some idiot kid at school
#799 [12:23] <sammaelt> dont feet the troll
#800 [12:23] <vapor> hence the k-12
#801 [12:23] <sammaelt> d*
#802 [12:23] <osama_bin_laden> it feels good
#803 [12:23] * oldtopman joins osama_bin_laden
#803 [12:23] <vapor> washoe county is where reno 911 was based on
#804 [12:23] <vapor> :)
#805 [12:23] <osama_bin_laden> lul
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#807 [12:24] <osama_bin_laden> bread
#808 [12:25] <osama_bin_laden> is going to get blown up
#809 [12:25] <bread> :o
#810 [12:25] <bread> He's the ultimate ban invader!
#811 [12:26] <bread> and yes
#812 [12:26] <bread> he is some idiot kid at school
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#814 [12:26] <bobd0le> is there such a thing as a minecraft wallhack? like to see caves and stuff easily?
#815 [12:27] <bread> There's map viewers and things.
#816 [12:27] <bobd0le> but from an ingame point of view
#817 [12:27] <_303> there are xray mods if you mean that
#818 [12:27] <bobd0le> like, ive seen caves and stuff through the floor when the game was loading, anyway to recreate that?
#819 [12:27] <_303> or just halfsuffocate yourself in sand/gravel
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#821 [12:28] <bobd0le> wat? suffocate myself?
#822 [12:29] <Morrolan> Yep. While suffocating you can see through walls while in third person mode.
#823 [12:29] <Morrolan> But I advise you to use an x-ray mod instead. ;)
#824 [12:30] <_303> I mean, stand on a block, but not quite on the center. put two gravel blocks above you so they fall and cover you. this way half of your vision is inside of a block but you are not considered suffocating and don't take damage. now look around in first person and you see caves
#825 [12:30] <sammaelt> it's here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=119356&sid=e5213b5e39fec928d5ac1bf01b87116a
#826 [12:31] <_303> cjb also has an xray mod
#827 [12:31] <sammaelt> and hit f5 before suffocating
#828 [12:31] <Morrolan> sammaelt: That's an external tool.
#829 [12:31] <_303> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=261317
#830 [12:31] <Morrolan> There are mods as well.
#831 [12:31] <_303> ~title
#832 [12:31] <McPlusPlus> "[V1.5_01] CJB Mods v3.2.4 - Minimap changes - Minecraft Forums" (http://is.gd/qjXigs)
#833 [12:32] <sammaelt> well i didnt try touching at the jar file yet, playing since only 3 weeks, taking the time :)
#834 [12:33] <bobd0le> surely i couldnt use those on a multiplayer server that im not the mod of?
#835 [12:34] <_303> bobd0le: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=272846 ?
#836 [12:35] <bobd0le> ahh, so i need that modloader first?
#837 [12:36] <_303> sure
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#840 [12:48] <bobd0le> ja ty sam
#841 [12:48] <bobd0le> using that link _303 sent me
#842 [12:48] <bobd0le> but it keeps crashing my game, heh
#843 [12:49] <sammaelt> alright you're welcome :)
#844 [12:49] <sammaelt> then maybe try a clean installation, anyway ,always read the full post :)
#845 [12:49] <bobd0le> if i try to cycle down further than golden rail my game dies, badtimes
#846 [12:53] <VoxelHead> r i like them ^_^
#847 [12:57] <NinjaKirby> !server
#848 [12:57] <NinjaKirby> Ew, don't want .exe
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#850 [12:58] <xENO_> Does the EXE work with 64-bit Java? It doesn't seem like it would, unless it's basically a compiled batch file or something.
#851 [12:58] <xales> xENO_: It's pretty much just a wrapper around a .JAR
#852 [12:58] <xales> it just invokes the JVM
#853 [12:58] <xales> so if you have a 64-bit JVM then it would run it in 64-bit
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#857 [13:02] <Grimbul> Hi
#858 [13:02] <progme> iH
#859 [13:04] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =[
#860 [13:08] * g slaps progme around a bit with a large trout.
#860 [13:08] <g> you scared him off D:
#861 [13:08] <progme> I said Hi backwards :(
#862 [13:09] <progme> being nice, with a twist ;)
#863 [13:09] <g> :P
#864 [13:22] <NinjaKirby> How do I request a Server access check from the Bot?
#865 [13:22] <NinjaKirby> !check blerg
#866 [13:22] <xales> Just say "!check (ip)"
#867 [13:22] <NinjaKirby> That's the one
#868 [13:23] <xales> !check my_self_esteem
#869 [13:23] <Morrolan> !check AuBot
#870 [13:23] <xales> haha
#871 [13:23] <NinjaKirby> lol
#872 [13:23] <Morrolan> Oh well, could have been that it had a special response for certain "ip's"
#873 [13:23] <NinjaKirby> How does the Bot know which Port to look out for?
#874 [13:23] <Morrolan> It doesn't?
#875 [13:23] <xales> It's the default
#876 [13:23] <xales> It checks 25565 by default
#877 [13:23] <Morrolan> ^
#878 [13:24] <Morrolan> You can specify one though I guess.
#879 [13:24] <Morrolan> Got a server running on a non-default port?
#880 [13:24] <NinjaKirby> !check ninjakirby.no-ip.org:42048
#881 [13:24] <Morrolan> Yep, seems you can just append it. :)
#882 [13:24] <NinjaKirby> Awesome... although, it produced an error in my Server log
#883 [13:24] <Morrolan> Hmm, I think it establishes a TCP connection on that specific port?
#884 [13:24] <NinjaKirby> Ah right, I see, normal response XD Ya
#885 [13:27] <NinjaKirby> lol, so Arrows still shoot all mangled in server mode, glorious
#886 [13:27] <m0nk> when you shoot (note) 1 arrow. and the server laggs it making it seem like a shroud of arrows. especially if you shoot from above. wtf is up with that?
#887 [13:29] <m0nk> there's ad runk band outside
#888 [13:29] <m0nk> wtf is up with that?
#889 [13:29] <m0nk> drum*
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#891 [13:30] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [31]: Updated ignore list, modes (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/moeazH
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#897 [13:49] <zephyrkinetic> Ok. Who's available to help a minecraft noob with a crash issue?
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#899 [13:51] <xales> zephyrkinetic: Can you be more specific about the issue?
#900 [13:51] <zephyrkinetic> Absolutely. I was just waiting for a response.
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#902 [13:52] <Null> is the server down
#903 [13:52] <Null> i can't login via the client :\
#904 [13:52] <NotiCon> !isdown minecraft.net
#905 [13:52] <GreyBot> NotiCon: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#906 [13:52] <Null> :(
#907 [13:52] <Null> the website is working
#908 [13:52] <Null> but i cna't login via the game to play on mah server
#909 [13:52] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!isdown https://login.minecraft.net
#910 [13:52] <Null> cant*
#911 [13:52] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!isdown login.minecraft.net
#912 [13:52] <GreyBot> lukegb: It's just you. http://login.minecraft.net is up.
#913 [13:53] <zephyrkinetic> In one of my worlds, I was unable to move past a certain area. I was just running along, and the game froze, eventually forcing me to kill it in Task Manager.
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#915 [13:53] <Null> lukegb : http://gyazo.com/e746eda3034868052a6bd00dcce4edc5.png
#916 [13:53] <Null> that's the error i get over and over
#917 [13:53] <xales> zephyrkinetic: Any mods?
#918 [13:53] <zephyrkinetic> Reloading the game puts me back in the same spot, but still unable to move.
#919 [13:53] <zephyrkinetic> None.
#920 [13:54] <zephyrkinetic> I've since updated java and deleted the bin folder, and now the game hangs up (only when loading that world) while Building Terrain.
#921 [13:54] <zephyrkinetic> And then crashes.
#922 [13:54] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Null: I see nothing on that link
#923 [13:54] <zephyrkinetic> I've come to like that particular world. I want to play it.
#924 [13:55] <Null> lukegb sorry try this one http://gyazo.com/f4f660576cb2397ca665fee98bf456d0.png
#925 [13:55] <Null> i linked the wrong one
#926 [13:55] <Null> mah bad
#927 [13:55] <sammaelt> you can try to recreate it reentering the seed in a new world
#928 [13:56] <zephyrkinetic> I'm more fond of the extensive mines and huge tower I have.
#929 [13:56] <Null> did it load for u that time lukegb
#930 [13:56] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :yeah
#931 [13:56] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :hmm
#932 [13:56] <sammaelt> are you using vanilla
#933 [13:56] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :interesting error :P
#934 [13:57] <Null> i get it all the time :\
#935 [13:57] <zephyrkinetic> Presuming Vanilla means an unmodified game, yes.
#936 [13:57] <zephyrkinetic> I've downloaded a skin.
#937 [13:57] <zephyrkinetic> And that's it.
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#939 [13:57] <sammaelt> how big is your map?
#940 [13:57] <Null> maybe ill restart my computer, although i dn't see how that could be the problem
#941 [13:57] <zephyrkinetic> Uh? File size?
#942 [13:57] <sammaelt> yea im just curious maybe a ram problem?
#943 [13:58] <zephyrkinetic> 6.83 MB
#944 [13:58] * Null restarts
#944 [13:58] <sammaelt> hmm weird
#945 [13:59] <zephyrkinetic> My RAM should be sufficient. The first world I made is almost twice that size, and it never did this.
#946 [13:59] <xales> zephyrkinetic: Download MCEdit, and open the map with it
#947 [13:59] <xales> then change something insignificant, and re-save the map
#948 [13:59] <zephyrkinetic> I've downloaded that, but can't figure out how to install it or run it.
#949 [14:01] <zephyrkinetic> Oh, wait.
#950 [14:01] <zephyrkinetic> I found it.
#951 [14:01] * zephyrkinetic is dumb
#951 [14:02] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Fixing bugs, enabling nether. (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/Y8DipH
#952 [14:02] <g> 1.6 officially has a release date of “not soon”. The main features will be the maps, bug fixes, and now a functioning Nether in multiplayer.
#953 [14:02] <g> lol
#954 [14:03] <zephyrkinetic> Ok. Want to walk me through this program? I'm not interested in creating anything crazy in MCEdit, I just want my level to work again.
#955 [14:04] <xales> zephyrkinetic: I have no idea how to use it, sorry
#956 [14:04] <zephyrkinetic> Bollocks.
#957 [14:04] <xales> You might be able to just press ctrl+s to save it
#958 [14:05] <zephyrkinetic> Nope. It still shit itself.
#959 [14:07] <xales> Map is corrupt beyond repair then...you might be able to find the specific part that's causing the problem and delete it
#960 [14:08] <zephyrkinetic> I'd be happy to do that, if someone can tell me how.
#961 [14:08] <xales> You'd have to figure out the coordinates of the chunk based on nearby ones that you can get to
#962 [14:08] <xales> then convert those coordinates into the filename, and then delete that file
#963 [14:08] <xales> as for how to convert it, I don't know, as I don't know details of the save format, but that information is on the wiki
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#965 [14:13] <zephyrkinetic> Hrm. Doesn't look like that'll work; I can't find the chunk's coordinated unless I can get into the game. Since the map crashes during the building terrain portion, looks like I'm just effed.
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#967 [14:15] <zephyrkinetic> Thanks for your help, though, xales.
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#969 [14:19] <osama_bin_laden> hello
#970 [14:19] <osama_bin_laden> i want to blow up the white house
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#975 [14:21] <sammaelt> you need to remember the last thing you did before dieing and loop spawning zephyr
#976 [14:21] <sammaelt> oops he s gone
#977 [14:23] <NotiCon> silly guy
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#979 [14:23] <ALT3RNAT1V3> how long is a day in mc?
#980 [14:25] <xales> ALT3RNAT1V3: About 10 minutes
#981 [14:29] <ALT3RNAT1V3> kk
#982 [14:29] <ALT3RNAT1V3> thanks
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#985 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> ALT3RNAT1V3: Day, 10m; dusk 90s; night 8m; dawn 90s
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#993 [15:06] <m0nk> i'm lost in NinjaKirby's cavern. i was building something but then the lava died me
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#996 [15:11] <m0nk> he's got it signed all over the place. but i can't find where i'm supposed to be building.
#997 [15:13] <sammaelt> isnt night 7min instead?
#998 [15:18] <m0nk> lol. twin spiders cavern (fully secure) lol NinjaKirby
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#1000 [15:24] <NinjaKirby> Hey XD Didn't get a response from you in-game, guess you're afk m0nk?
#1001 [15:24] <m0nk> im coming in again
#1002 [15:24] <NinjaKirby> Wow, lots of glass installed, and okay XD
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#1005 [15:37] <mib_cekv84> hello
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#1007 [15:38] <mib_cekv84> can some1 help me, i get an error saying bad packet 114
#1008 [15:38] <oldtopmanserver> Did you downoad minecraft from minecraft.net?
#1009 [15:38] <mib_cekv84> yes but this was about 4 months ago
#1010 [15:38] <mib_cekv84> and i dont wanna lose my world xD
#1011 [15:39] <g> you don't lose it by updating
#1012 [15:39] <oldtopmanserver> Might want to redownload the client.
#1013 [15:39] <g> what gave you that idea?
#1014 [15:39] <mib_cekv84> dunno
#1015 [15:39] <mib_cekv84> thought id hade to reaplace map or somthin
#1016 [15:39] <g> nu
#1017 [15:39] <g> that'd be stupid
#1018 [15:39] <g> even Notch isn't that bad
#1019 [15:39] <g> :P
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#1021 [15:40] <mib_cekv84> hahah xD
#1022 [15:40] <VoxelHead> Gir... help me... there isn't much time!
#1023 [15:40] <AkiTensai> zom, wb VoxelHead
#1024 [15:40] <peeves> it appears im having a silly issue with installing craftbukkit if anyone cares to help.. somehow my computer made winRAR the program to open .jar files.. which program do i need to run bukkit properly?
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#1030 [15:47] <relsqui> peeves: we don't really support mods here; try #bukkit.
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#1032 [15:49] <Sockem_tremmer> hello
#1033 [15:49] <Sockem_tremmer> i need some help
#1034 [15:49] <Sockem_tremmer> with building and mining
#1035 [15:49] <Sockem_tremmer> whenever i click, my ingame menu pops up
#1036 [15:49] <Sockem_tremmer> and that slows down building and mining a lot
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#1038 [15:50] <Jos-> Hi
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#1040 [15:50] <Jos-> My compass gets me to a point in the middle of the sea (I dont have a bed and I gave me the compass using the server: give NAME 345 1)
#1041 [15:50] <Jos-> Whats going on?
#1042 [15:51] <Sockem_tremmer> doesn anybody know how to help me? i use the website to launch minecraft, not minecraft.jar, and that might be the problem, but it's slow when u have to close menu every time I click.
#1043 [15:52] <Sockem_tremmer> because whenever i click, i repeat, my menu pops up
#1044 [15:54] <Sockem_tremmer> i dont think anybody's listening
#1045 [15:54] <xales> Sockem_tremmer: Try using the download versioN?
#1046 [15:54] <xolotl> Jos-: Is your spawn point somewhere in the middle of the sea?
#1047 [15:54] <Jos-> yes
#1048 [15:55] <Jos-> and i just discovered 3 holes in the sea
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#1050 [15:55] <Jos-> i think they are 20x20
#1051 [15:55] <Jos-> and the walls are seen through the water cuz they have light (I guess magma)
#1052 [15:55] <Jos-> As ive turned off spawning of enimies
#1053 [15:55] <xolotl> Jos-: More likely they're 16x16, 'cause that's the size of chunks
#1054 [15:56] <Jos-> i was quite releax, but now I am just terrified xD
#1055 [15:56] <xolotl> Jos-: Anyway, the compass will always point to your spawn point, so it sounds like it's doing the right thing?
#1056 [15:56] <Jos-> ow, ok
#1057 [15:56] <xales> ??> Sockem_tremmer irc/dontpm
#1058 [15:56] <Jos-> i ddint count them
#1059 [15:56] <VoxelHead> Sockem_tremmer: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
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#1061 [15:56] <xales> Sockem_tremmer: Are you using Windows?
#1062 [15:56] <xolotl> The missing chunks would certainly be an issue, of course
#1063 [15:56] <Jos-> spawn point = what? the point I got the compass?
#1064 [15:56] <Jos-> theyre 16 indeed
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#1066 [15:57] <Jos-> so there isnt lava at the bottom, but there is light?
#1067 [15:57] <Sockem_tremmer> anybody know how to make the menu stop popping up whenever i click?
#1068 [15:57] <xales> Sockem_tremmer: As I have said, try the download version.
#1069 [15:58] <Sockem_tremmer> i'll try, but i dont have alpha, i have classic
#1070 [15:58] <Jos-> i found my way back home, the holes seem very close to my house
#1071 [15:59] <xolotl> Jos-: What's happening with the 16x16 missing areas is that for some reason your client just isn't loading those chunks
#1072 [15:59] <Jos-> odd, cuzz i havent seen them before
#1073 [15:59] <xales> Sockem_tremmer: Then there is not a download version
#1074 [15:59] <xolotl> Jos-: Are you on SMP or singleplayer?
#1075 [15:59] <Jos-> smp
#1076 [15:59] <xolotl> Jos-: Ah, I'd guess SMP since you used /give
#1077 [15:59] <xolotl> Jos-: Just try disconnecting and reconnecting
#1078 [15:59] <Sockem_tremmer> oh and im not using windows, im using linux
#1079 [15:59] <xolotl> Jos-: Sometimes the communication between client/server gets a little munged and the client just doesn't get chunks sent to it
#1080 [15:59] <xales> Sockem_tremmer: Try a different browser, or a different version of Java
#1081 [16:00] <Jos-> OMG, that chunk xDDD it even has no bedrock./... its odd and very very scary
#1082 [16:00] <xolotl> Jos-: Right; your client simply doesn't have the chunk
#1083 [16:00] <xolotl> Jos-: Disconnecting and reconnecting should clear it up
#1084 [16:00] <Jos-> I can see redstone ore and blue laze (or whatever) ore from ehre
#1085 [16:00] <Jos-> could I somehow get them? :P
#1086 [16:00] <xolotl> Jos-: Your client will glitch out if you try to walk into the missing chunk; I wouldn't recommend it
#1087 [16:01] <Sockem_tremmer> i have java version 6 update 24 and i cant use browser, i use website, because linux is very very hard to work with whenit comes to games, my friend
#1088 [16:01] <Jos-> like fall in the empty chunk, and move forward into the holes the walls have? :P
#1089 [16:01] <xolotl> s/whenit comes to games/in general, at first, but becomes very pleasant with time/
#1090 [16:01] <Jos-> yeh, I dropped a Dirt in it, its crazy :P
#1091 [16:01] <xales> Sockem_tremmer: A web browser is the program you use to visit web pages
#1092 [16:01] <xales> and Linux works just fine with games
#1093 [16:02] <xales> I'm playing a game right now.
#1094 [16:02] <Sockem_tremmer> i know, but firefox is the only browser that has java, the other is google chrome
#1095 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> ah
#1096 [16:02] <Sockem_tremmer> and gc cant use java
#1097 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> clearly one of the new meanings of 'the only' with which I am not familiar
#1098 [16:03] <xales> Do you have Sun Java, or some other version of Java
#1099 [16:03] <xales> and Chrome can use Java just fine
#1100 [16:03] <xales> s/version/implementation/
#1101 [16:03] <Sockem_tremmer> oh and xales, what game are u playing? tremulous is the best :D
#1102 [16:03] <VoxelHead> only with spud
#1103 [16:03] <xales> Well, I'm not using Ubuntu, so I'm not playing any of it's games
#1104 [16:03] * xolotl could never get enough friends together who were interested in tremulous
#1104 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> s/it's/its/#FTFY, xales
#1105 [16:03] <Sockem_tremmer> oh...
#1106 [16:04] <xales> DopeGhoti: Bleh
#1107 [16:04] <xales> I don't think that game is in the repository for my distro
#1108 [16:04] <Sockem_tremmer> xales how do i get java on chrome?
#1109 [16:04] <Jos-> A sheep walked in it :P
#1110 [16:04] <Sockem_tremmer> haha
#1111 [16:04] <xales> I don't know, with Ubuntu. I'm sure there's a package for it.
#1112 [16:05] <Sockem_tremmer> ok i'll google it
#1113 [16:06] <Sockem_tremmer> im gonna install another browser
#1114 [16:07] <Jos-> xolo" I put a Torch next to the chunk and the chunk recovered :(
#1115 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> ??tremulous
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#1117 [16:07] <Jos-> the part where the light comes
#1118 [16:08] <xales> DopeGhoti:
#1119 [16:08] <xales> community/tremulous 1.1.0-7 A completely free online team based FPS/RTS hybrid game based on the ioquake3 engine.
#1120 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> ah
#1121 [16:08] <Jos-> and the water only i see :P
#1122 [16:09] <xolotl> Jos-: That can sometimes fix things temporarily, but you're likely to just continue having more problems
#1123 [16:09] <xolotl> Jos-: Just disconnect and then reconnect and you'll be much happier
#1124 [16:10] <Sockem_tremmer> im gonna get emac web browser
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#1126 [16:11] <Sockem_tremmer> i dont know how to do this
#1127 [16:11] <Sockem_tremmer> i just unpacked it, and it's a whole bunch of files.
#1128 [16:11] <Jos-> yeh yeh, i know
#1129 [16:11] <Sockem_tremmer> and no launcher
#1130 [16:11] <Sockem_tremmer> it's like it is tooken apart
#1131 [16:12] <Sockem_tremmer> and they expect us to put it together or something
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#1133 [16:15] <Sockem_tremmer> like a gicantic puzzle
#1134 [16:16] <Sockem_tremmer> im gonna have to keep working slowly, having to close menu every time i click, because it doesnt work properly
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#1142 [16:34] <Jos-> Flint and Steel: stacvkable:no
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#1144 [16:34] <Jos-> Inventory: Flint and Steel, Flint And Steel,9
#1145 [16:43] <Jos-> more rpoblems: tnt hangs
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#1147 [16:43] <m0nk> yes it does
#1148 [16:44] <m0nk> you place it - smash it with you'r 2 by 4 hand:P then it starts glitching then it blows up then it glitchs some more
#1149 [16:45] <Jos-> i placed multiple tnts and burned down 1
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#1153 [17:03] <EighTaZ> Hello, I have a quick question
#1154 [17:04] <EighTaZ> Does anyone know how does BlueXephos or deadworkersparty (On youtube) make the minecraft characters move freely?
#1155 [17:04] <EighTaZ> Like the part in the "In search for diamonds" music video
#1156 [17:04] <EighTaZ> They make the character fly
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#1161 [17:15] <peru_> is this an error? i get "Logging in..." and then Connection Lost End of stream
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#1165 [17:18] <peru_> or do i need to ask about this in #smp?
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#1168 [17:25] <peru_> do anyone has any idea?
#1169 [17:28] <peru_> xales, GreyVulpine
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#1171 [17:35] <relsqui> peru_: is it only on the one server?
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#1173 [17:35] <relsqui> or in general
#1174 [17:35] <Brian2one0> Umm
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#1177 [17:35] <Brian2one0> Why cant I talk in the regular Minecraft IRC?
#1178 [17:35] <Brian2one0> O.o
#1179 [17:36] <relsqui> Brian2one0: did you read its topic?
#1180 [17:36] <Brian2one0> Yes.
#1181 [17:36] <relsqui> did you see something about nick registration?
#1182 [17:36] <Brian2one0> I did ./msg (someones name) HELP REGISTER
#1183 [17:36] <Brian2one0> Yes.
#1184 [17:36] <relsqui> er, was that name nickserv?
#1185 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#1186 [17:36] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1187 [17:36] <peru_> i successfully connected to other server
#1188 [17:36] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1189 [17:36] <Brian2one0> Yes.
#1190 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1191 [17:36] <relsqui> ... what voxel said :)
#1192 [17:37] <Brian2one0> Alright
#1193 [17:37] <peru_> guess its server's fault then
#1194 [17:37] <Brian2one0> So NickServ is the IRC server name?
#1195 [17:37] <relsqui> it's a service provided on this irc network
#1196 [17:37] <relsqui> to do things like nick registration
#1197 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> NickServ is the name of a service on this network, for the purpose of nicks
#1198 [17:38] <Brian2one0> This is confusing T_T
#1199 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Basically, just do:
#1200 [17:38] <relsqui> :) there's no hurry. just take it a step at a time.
#1201 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
#1202 [17:38] <Brian2one0> So I would do ./msg Brian2one0 REGISTERS (pass) (email)
#1203 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> No
#1204 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> /msg NickServ REGISTER password email
#1205 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Replace ONLY password and email
#1206 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> with yours
#1207 [17:38] <Brian2one0> Alright.
#1208 [17:38] <Brian2one0> Let's try this.
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#1210 [17:39] <relsqui> Brian2one0: the /msg command in general sends a message to the nick which follows it. so /msg Brian2one0 would send a message to yourself. :P
#1211 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Brian2one0 - After you do that command, it should tell you to check your email to complete the registration
#1212 [17:40] <Brian2one0> Alright.
#1213 [17:40] <Brian2one0> Now I get it.
#1214 [17:40] <Brian2one0> so If I want to private message someone what do I do?
#1215 [17:40] <Brian2one0> ./msg (Name) Message?
#1216 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> /msg personsname message
#1217 [17:40] <relsqui> yup
#1218 [17:40] <Brian2one0> Mmkay.
#1219 [17:40] <Brian2one0> Thanks ^.^
#1220 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
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#1225 [18:01] <Guest30335> Hello is anyone out there able to help me set up a server
#1226 [18:03] <relsqui> probably. I am not it. but if you hang around a bit someone else might turn up who can.
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#1229 [18:11] <lemursrule111> Greetings
#1230 [18:11] <lemursrule111> Grey
#1231 [18:11] <lemursrule111> Yo, Grey.
#1232 [18:12] <lemursrule111> Grey!
#1233 [18:13] <lemursrule111> Anyone here?
#1234 [18:13] <lemursrule111> Anyone...
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#1236 [18:14] <lemursrule111> Forget about it... Bye
#1237 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> ciao
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#1240 [18:28] <Ponti> hello
#1241 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1242 [18:29] <Ponti> can you help me please
#1243 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#1244 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> For old versions, unless you've backed it up yourself, we cannot give you links to older versions since those are not from official sites
#1245 [18:29] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1246 [18:29] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1247 [18:29] <Ponti> i'm looking for the old 1.4_01 jar files to use with industrialcraft, where can i find them?
#1248 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> For old versions, unless you've backed it up yourself, we cannot give you links to older versions since those are not from official sites
#1249 [18:30] <Ponti> ah ok
#1250 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> hopefully, 'in a backup on your hard drive'
#1251 [18:30] <Ponti> nope, i'm afraid not
#1252 [18:30] <Ponti> but why doesn't notch keep an official site with the old jar files available?
#1253 [18:32] <Ponti> ok well, thx anyway
#1254 [18:32] <Ponti> i'll just wait till industrialcraft works again
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#1258 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Heh, Notch tweets a link to a website selling fedoras that he's interested in, minutes later, site goes down.
#1259 [18:41] <oldtopman> XD
#1260 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Oooo.
#1261 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Notch - We'll add Nether support to SMP in 1.6. I have no idea when 1.6 is getting released, so you might as well get used to 1.5 for a while. ;)
#1262 [18:42] <oldtopman> YES
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#1265 [18:50] <Morrolan> Hey, and he learned from his mistakes. :)
#1266 [18:51] <Morrolan> He's not giving any "promises" on a release date anymore. :)
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#1268 [18:57] * VoxelHead is back
#1268 [18:57] <oldtopman> wb voxelhead
#1269 [19:07] <LordTrevor> Hey VoxelHead , how you doing today?
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#1271 [19:10] <oldtopman> VoxelHead, fire everything at LordTrevor
#1272 [19:10] <oldtopman> VoxelHead, fire all weapons at LordTrevor
#1273 [19:10] <oldtopman> :(
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#1278 [19:20] <AkiTensai> VoxelHead: When is version 1.6 coming out?
#1279 [19:20] <VoxelHead> 6:21
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#1281 [19:23] <aetherian> lool
#1282 [19:23] <VoxelHead> Loooooooooooooooooool.
#1283 [19:26] <LordTrevor> VoxelHead: Why do I hate you so much?
#1284 [19:26] <VoxelHead> For fun.
#1285 [19:26] <LordTrevor> I accept this answer.
#1286 [19:30] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: Yeah, 1.6 should be awesome
#1287 [19:31] <xolotl> I wish there'd be a hotfix for the black-stairs issue though. Perhaps someone's taken the time to mod it; I might actually use a mod in that case
#1288 [19:31] <xolotl> Haven't really played 1.5 much, 'cause I don't like the smooth lighting, and many of my stairs look horrible otherwise
#1289 [19:32] <xolotl> Though admittedly that's just me being picky. :)
#1290 [19:32] <m0nk> 6:21 minutes from now. or 6:21 in the morning?
#1291 [19:34] <oldtopman> xolotl: Dudu!
#1292 [19:34] <oldtopman> There is an option to turn smooth lighting off!
#1293 [19:34] <oldtopman> And the black stairs = bad texpacks
#1294 [19:35] <xolotl> oldtopman: I'm just using the default
#1295 [19:35] <oldtopman> xolotl: Don'n!
#1296 [19:35] <xolotl> oldtopman: And the black-stair bug only occurs when smooth lighting is off
#1297 [19:35] <oldtopman> ...
#1298 [19:35] <xolotl> oldtopman: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/blackness_on_stairs
#1299 [19:36] <N> Don't me!
#1300 [19:36] <N> ヽ( ｡ ヮﾟ)ノ
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#1303 [19:47] <rf`> is this a bug?: pressureplates on a reversed door works exactly the opposite as on a non-reversed door?
#1304 [19:48] <Morrolan> reversed door?
#1305 [19:48] <VoxelHead> what do you think?
#1306 [19:48] <Morrolan> Like, placed the other way round?
#1307 [19:48] <Morrolan> Vox: The cake is a lie.
#1308 [19:48] <rf`> a door gets reversed if you put it alongside another door to create a double door
#1309 [19:49] <rf`> if you put the touchplate on the right one, the right door works fine. if you put it on the left door, it starts open and pressing the plate closes it
#1310 [19:49] <rf`> I think this only works for wooden doors
#1311 [19:49] <oldtopman> its for both
#1312 [19:49] <oldtopman> notch cheated
#1313 [19:49] <rf`> ahh, I kinda figured
#1314 [19:49] <oldtopman> the left door is just flipped
#1315 [19:49] <rf`> has he any thoughts about fixing it?
#1316 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Not really considered a bug
#1317 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> It just rotates the other way, so the natural default state is open
#1318 [19:50] <rf`> but it shouldn't be?
#1319 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> It's been like that since forever.
#1320 [19:51] <rf`> and yet nobody has pointed out that it ought to be fixed?
#1321 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> People have worked around it?
#1322 [19:51] <rf`> so a bug people don't care to fix is not still a bug?
#1323 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> People don't consider it a bug.
#1324 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> It's just how doors work in minecraft.
#1325 [19:52] <rf`> it still seems wrong :P
#1326 [19:54] <VoxelHead> Bye h.
#1327 [19:54] <Morrolan> Oh, I think he once mentioned that he'll fix them someday, cause atm it's only possible to open a doubledoor at the same moment with a special glitch I think.
#1328 [19:55] <rf`> even with a pressureplate?
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#1330 [19:56] <rf`> I tried running a redstone line to it with an inverter and it didn't do anything different
#1331 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
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#1334 [20:01] <Morrolan> rf: No idea if this tutorial is good, but someone posted it on planetminecraft.com three hours ago or so.
#1335 [20:01] <Morrolan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5g3JYSssnc
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#1337 [20:02] <Guest79722> Hello
#1338 [20:02] <Guest79722> Anyone here that can help me?
#1339 [20:02] <Morrolan> Well, depends on what you need. ;)
#1340 [20:03] <Guest79722> I keep getting Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of minutes.
#1341 [20:03] <Guest79722> I have been for hours
#1342 [20:03] <Guest79722> And my client hasnt been working for months
#1343 [20:03] <Guest79722> My client just says "Cant connect to minecraft.net"
#1344 [20:04] <Guest79722> And I get Login throttled on the browser
#1345 [20:04] <xales> Check the time and date set on your computer
#1346 [20:04] <xales> Make sure it's correct, especially the year
#1347 [20:04] <Guest79722> Ok , that may be the reason I just re-installed my OS
#1348 [20:04] <Guest79722> So its 2009 xD
#1349 [20:06] <Guest79722> Ok its all set , this will fix my client or the login?
#1350 [20:06] <xales> I don't know what was wrong with your client
#1351 [20:06] <Guest79722> Browser login*
#1352 [20:06] <xales> It should fix both
#1353 [20:07] <Guest79722> Ok
#1354 [20:07] <Guest79722> My god , thank you so much. I finally have my client back.
#1355 [20:08] <Morrolan> Xales: I doubt I would ever have had the idea that it's because of the system time. Oo
#1356 [20:08] <Guest79722> Yeah , why was that?
#1357 [20:08] <xales> Morrolan: It's because it uses SSL for authentication now
#1358 [20:08] <Morrolan> Oh
#1359 [20:08] <xales> and the time on the computer is set before the certificate was issued
#1360 [20:08] <Morrolan> So an invalid certificate?
#1361 [20:08] <Morrolan> Yea.
#1362 [20:08] <xales> yup
#1363 [20:09] <Guest79722> Ah , dont know what that means but k :D
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#1367 [20:26] <MisterDrow> Hopefully someone can help… I wanted to give MC Classic a try before I bought the Beta and while it ran on my work PC, my new MacBook Pro here at home doesn't work. The loading screen starts and then goes black and then the browser locks up after about 3 minutes.
#1368 [20:27] <MisterDrow> Tried in FF and Chrome
#1369 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> MisterDrow: sorry, that was unclear: is it Classic, or the Beta, that is locking up?
#1370 [20:30] <MisterDrow> Classic
#1371 [20:31] <MisterDrow> Perhaps I need to adjust a browser setting or something somewhere… very odd as other Java applets work just fine
#1372 [20:31] <VoxelHead> i like them :o)
#1373 [20:36] <MisterDrow> No ideas, anyone?
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#1375 [20:39] <MisterDrow> quit
#1376 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> patience of a saint, that one.
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#1380 [20:48] <iamweirdie> hey how do u check if server is online again?
#1381 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> with the !check command
#1382 [20:49] <iamweirdie> !check thevoxelbox.com
#1383 [20:49] <iamweirdie> craaaaap...
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#1386 [20:54] <quaddle> If I buy minecraft, and I make a server, can my friend who didn't buy the game play on it?
#1387 [20:54] <jakemb> can someone tell me how to get an acount back when someone hacked your acount? my friend had that happen
#1388 [20:54] <jakemb> quaddle: no, both of you have to have minecraft
#1389 [20:54] <quaddle> ty
#1390 [20:55] <xales> jakemb: Have them use the password recovery feature
#1391 [20:55] <jakemb> can i do it for him? ive got his user and old pass>
#1392 [20:56] <iamweirdie> !check thevoxelbox.com
#1393 [20:56] <iamweirdie> cmon big money...
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#1395 [20:58] <jakemb> and wheres that feature, i didnt see it, or do u need 2 send an email
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#1397 [20:59] <mcs|afk> hello
#1398 [21:00] <jakemb> do u need to send an email to recover password?
#1399 [21:00] <mcs|afk> I am having touble setting up my server actually
#1400 [21:00] <mcs|afk> I've already been through a lot
#1401 [21:00] <jakemb> an smp?
#1402 [21:00] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
#1403 [21:00] <mcs|afk> everytime I seem to move on another problem arrives
#1404 [21:00] <mcs|afk> Lets see..
#1405 [21:01] <mcs|afk> I've already port forwarded
#1406 [21:01] <mcs|afk> I finally got enough mb to run the server on my desktop
#1407 [21:01] <mcs|afk> and whenever I try to join
#1408 [21:01] <mcs|afk> (or a friend)
#1409 [21:01] <mcs|afk> it rejects
#1410 [21:01] <mcs|afk> exact error message is
#1411 [21:02] <mcs|afk> "Connection refused: connection"
#1412 [21:02] <mcs|afk> connect*
#1413 [21:02] <mcs|afk> any ideas?
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#1415 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Usually means the server can't be reached, or is down
#1416 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Recheck the IP, recheck port forwarding, check firewall settings
#1417 [21:04] <memzy> okay I will
#1418 [21:04] <VoxelHead> Bye BarryCarlyon.
#1419 [21:04] <memzy> Does the fact that I have two computers (laptop & desktop) contribute?
#1420 [21:05] <memzy> I really am new to all this
#1421 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate on how you're hosting the server, and how you're connecting?
#1422 [21:05] <memzy> I'm hosting via my desktop
#1423 [21:05] <memzy> wich is connected directly to my modem
#1424 [21:06] <memzy> while my laptop is on wifi
#1425 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Alright, what IP address are you using to connect to your server?
#1426 [21:06] <memzy> Should we go into query?
#1427 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> ?? irc/dontpm
#1428 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1429 [21:06] <VoxelHead> irc/dontpm: We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#1430 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Ninja'd
#1431 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Thanks Dope >.>
#1432 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> cheers
#1433 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> o/
#1434 [21:07] <VoxelHead> cheeeeers
#1435 [21:07] <memzy> hiveminds :D
#1436 [21:07] <memzy> anywho
#1437 [21:07] <memzy> its the same for both pcs
#1438 [21:07] <memzy> do you need it?
#1439 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Are you using your public IP to connect?
#1440 [21:07] <memzy> yes
#1441 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried using the desktop's internal IP?
#1442 [21:08] <VoxelHead> yes, but only on the third wednesday of every month
#1443 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> The one it gets from the router
#1444 [21:08] <memzy> Honestly I do not know
#1445 [21:09] <memzy> whichever one whatsmyip gave me
#1446 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> What operating system is the desktop computer running?
#1447 [21:09] <memzy> Windows xp
#1448 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> On that computer, can you hit up the start menu, choose "Run", and type in cmd
#1449 [21:09] <memzy> mhm
#1450 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Press enter, a black command prompt should pop up. Type ipconfig
#1451 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> What is the ip address listed there?
#1452 [21:10] <memzy> I am somewhat familiar with cmd
#1453 [21:10] <memzy> okay
#1454 [21:11] <memzy> A list came up
#1455 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Should have a row that begins with IP address:
#1456 [21:11] <memzy> yes
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#1458 [21:11] <memzy> much different than the one I was using
#1459 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> What's after it?
#1460 [21:11] <memzy> Subnet Mask
#1461 [21:11] <memzy> Default Gateway
#1462 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> I mean, what's the ip address listed there?
#1463 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> This is your computer's private, internal NAT ip address.
#1464 [21:12] <memzy> 192.168.0.100
#1465 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Also the ip address you should have port forwarded to in your router
#1466 [21:12] <memzy> I see
#1467 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Try using 192.168.0.100 when connecting with your laptop
#1468 [21:12] <AG_Scott> Won't it be so much easier when IPv6 is standard? No NAT.
#1469 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Then people would actually need to buy more lines from their ISP
#1470 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> $$$
#1471 [21:13] <AG_Scott> Nope :P
#1472 [21:13] <VoxelHead> #Greyvulpine^*~!*!
#1473 [21:13] <AG_Scott> ISPs give out /64's
#1474 [21:13] <vapor> /1
#1475 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Oh.
#1476 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> Didn't know that
#1477 [21:13] <AG_Scott> at minimum.
#1478 [21:13] <Mario8236> I need hel installing mods here....
#1479 [21:13] <Mario8236> help*
#1480 [21:14] <Mario8236> :/
#1481 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Mario8236 - What kind of help?
#1482 [21:14] <Mario8236> Like
#1483 [21:14] <Mario8236> when i install them i get a black screen
#1484 [21:14] <Mario8236> :|
#1485 [21:14] <Mario8236> I know I installed them correctly...
#1486 [21:14] <Mario8236> and everything
#1487 [21:14] <Mario8236> D:
#1488 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> Did you install them correctly? Did you follow the instructions? Is the mod updated for the version of minecraft you're running?
#1489 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> Did you delete the META-INF folder?
#1490 [21:15] <Mario8236> yes.
#1491 [21:15] <memzy> haha
#1492 [21:15] <VoxelHead> don't come any closer or i will lay eggs in your stomach
#1493 [21:15] <memzy> Greyvulpine: thank you very much
#1494 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> memzy - Sure thing.
#1495 [21:16] <memzy> Not that its of any importance to you
#1496 [21:16] <memzy> but
#1497 [21:16] <memzy> I will be proudly hosting this server for me and 4 other friends
#1498 [21:16] <memzy> :D
#1499 [21:16] <VoxelHead> =)
#1500 [21:16] <memzy> thanks again
#1501 [21:16] <Mario8236> GreyVulpine: So, what do I do??
#1502 [21:16] <VoxelHead> a processor
#1503 [21:16] * GreyVulpine nods at memzy
#1503 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Mario8236 - What mod are you running?
#1504 [21:16] <Mario8236> it's zan's minimap
#1505 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Did you install modloader?
#1506 [21:18] <Mario8236> Yes.
#1507 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> And you got the download from here:
#1508 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=97332&p=1456935#ZansMini
#1509 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Correct?
#1510 [21:18] <Mario8236> Lemme see.
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#1512 [21:19] <Mario8236> Yes.
#1513 [21:19] <Mario8236> That's it.
#1514 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Well, um. The only thing I can suggest is to go to your .minecraft folder, delete the /bin folder so that the launcher will download fresh files for you
#1515 [21:20] <Mario8236> Do you think I did anything wrong?
#1516 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Reinstall modloader, make sure minecraft still runs and doesn't blackscreen, then install the minimap
#1517 [21:20] <Mario8236> ok.
#1518 [21:21] <VoxelHead> We have no time for these games%percent^*�~!#.
#1519 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Somedays, I question VoxelHead's sanity.
#1520 [21:22] <N> DopeGhoti: What is VoxelHead?
#1521 [21:22] <VoxelHead> Some string.
#1522 [21:24] <Mario8236> Actually, when I install mod loader first, it STILL doesn't work. D:
#1523 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Got the latest version of modloader?
#1524 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=80246
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#1526 [21:25] <Mario8236Alt> sorry about that O_
#1527 [21:25] <Mario8236Alt> O-o
#1528 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> Got the latest version of modloader?
#1529 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=80246
#1530 [21:26] <VoxelHead> yes
#1531 [21:26] <Mario8236Alt> Yes, Grey.
#1532 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> You've followed those directions to the letter, and aren't using the browser client..
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#1534 [21:28] <ron> * Ronjoe #minecraft :Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
#1535 [21:28] <ron> holyshitwat
#1536 [21:29] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: how can you question what isn't there? (:
#1537 [21:30] <eggy> wow ;)
#1538 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Bwah?
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#1541 [21:44] <Mario8236Alt> GreyVulpine: My launcher's broken. I have to use the web client.
#1542 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> That's why... the web client doesn't work with modloader
#1543 [21:47] <Mario8236Alt> ohhhhhhhh
#1544 [21:47] <Mario8236Alt> :|
#1545 [21:47] <Mario8236Alt> ok
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#1547 [21:48] <Protheum> Alriiiiight...
#1548 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1549 [21:49] <Protheum> I got this Eno's Texture Pack and tried to install it using a a patcher... it seemed to work, but every time I try to place a block, Minecraft crashes.
#1550 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a crash report?
#1551 [21:50] <Protheum> I uninstalled it and deleted everything. Even tried redownloading Minecraft, but nothing has fixed it.
#1552 [21:50] <Protheum> Negative.
#1553 [21:50] <xales> How did you re-download Minecraft?
#1554 [21:50] <Protheum> By going to the site and downloading it again.
#1555 [21:51] <xales> That only downloads the launcher, which is a program that downloads the game and stores it elsewhere on your computer
#1556 [21:51] <xales> If you want to reinstall it, you have to go to the Options screen before clicking Login, clicking "Force Update," then clicking Login
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#1558 [21:51] <Protheum> Ahhhh... interesting. I'll try that. Thank ya, sir.
#1559 [21:53] <Protheum> That did it. Have a good day.
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#1562 [22:00] <Mario8236Alt> How do I downgrade an intel driver? I think that's what the problem is with my launcher.
#1563 [22:00] <Mario8236Alt> A video card driver, that is.
#1564 [22:03] <Mario8236Alt> ...
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#1566 [22:03] <aetherian> I do so believe that http://downloadcenter.intel.com/ may well be what you are looking for, Mario.
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#1569 [22:05] <Mario8236Alt> This is a retarded question, but what section is the video card section? xD
#1570 [22:06] <Mario8236Alt> It doesn
#1571 [22:06] <Mario8236Alt> t
#1572 [22:06] <Mario8236Alt> say it
#1573 [22:06] <Mario8236Alt> :/
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#1575 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Try http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect/
#1576 [22:06] <carthelan> can anybody help me with bukkit esentials?
#1577 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> carthelan - Try #bukkit
#1578 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> or #essentials
#1579 [22:07] <Mario8236Alt> I did that.
#1580 [22:07] <Mario8236Alt> :\
#1581 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> !check 72.9.146.82:25587
#1582 [22:07] <ClashMaxx> My wife and I just purchased minecraft. Is there a tutorial on how to set up multiplayer?
#1583 [22:07] <Mario8236Alt> ClashMaxx:
#1584 [22:07] <Mario8236Alt> Hold on.
#1585 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> ClashMaxx - Quite a few, but the multiplayer beta file is at http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1586 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#1587 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Usually uses port 25565
#1588 [22:08] <ClashMaxx> Thanks Grey!
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#1590 [22:10] <Wahrheit> ClashMaxx: Are you looking to play multiplayer or host multiplayer?
#1591 [22:10] <Mario8236> GreyVulpine: What did you say? Sorry, my mIRC is suckish.
#1592 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Mario8236 - Try Try http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect/
#1593 [22:10] <Mario8236> GreyVulpine: I did that already. :
#1594 [22:10] <Mario8236> :|
#1595 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Did you click on the "Check your system for the latest updates"
#1596 [22:11] <Mario8236> ClashMaxx: Go to http://minecraft.net/
#1597 [22:11] <Mario8236> GreyVulpine: Yes.
#1598 [22:11] <ClashMaxx> Windows doesn't know what to do with MIME type file.
#1599 [22:11] <Wahrheit> ClashMaxx: Are you looking to play multiplayer or host multiplayer?
#1600 [22:12] <ClashMaxx> I just want my wife and I to play together in our own little world. :)
#1601 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> ClashMaxx - Did you get the Minecraft_server.exe file?
#1602 [22:12] <Wahrheit> Go to the download page, download Minecraft_Server.exe
#1603 [22:12] <ClashMaxx> I've got it
#1604 [22:13] <Wahrheit> ClashMaxx: Run it, then run your client and connect to whateverip
#1605 [22:13] <Wahrheit> you'll need to forward the port on your router
#1606 [22:13] <ClashMaxx> I can't run it
#1607 [22:13] <Wahrheit> why not?
#1608 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> It should be just as simple as putting it in its own folder, runninng it..
#1609 [22:13] <Wahrheit> it's an exe
#1610 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> ClashMaxx - Are you on windows?
#1611 [22:13] <ClashMaxx> yes
#1612 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Then it should work...
#1613 [22:13] <Wahrheit> Do you have Java installed?
#1614 [22:13] <ClashMaxx> Yes
#1615 [22:13] <ClashMaxx> I've been playing single player just fine
#1616 [22:14] <Wahrheit> And you run Minecraft
#1617 [22:14] <Wahrheit> *_Server.exe and you get an error?
#1618 [22:14] <VoxelHead> have you asked chabby?
#1619 [22:15] <ClashMaxx> Windows does not recognize this MIME type.
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#1621 [22:16] <Wahrheit> afk
#1622 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> ClashMaxx - Put it in its own folder, and make sure you can see the file extension
#1623 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Make sure it ends with a .exe
#1624 [22:16] <ClashMaxx> I just figured that out
#1625 [22:16] <ClashMaxx> It was missing the extention
#1626 [22:16] <ClashMaxx> I'm running it now
#1627 [22:16] <ClashMaxx> Does my wife need to do the same on her puter?
#1628 [22:17] <oldtopman> !check 67.217.161.215
#1629 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> No, the file is only for running the server
#1630 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> !check 72.9.146.82:25587
#1631 [22:18] <ClashMaxx> Now that I have it running, what does she type?
#1632 [22:18] <ClashMaxx> ie: how do I find my own ip address?
#1633 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> What operating system exactly are you running for the server?
#1634 [22:20] <ClashMaxx> Windows 7
#1635 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Start -> type in the search bar: cmd
#1636 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> At the command prompt, type: ipconfig
#1637 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Use the ipv4 address to connect
#1638 [22:23] <ClashMaxx> It Worked!
#1639 [22:23] <ClashMaxx> Thanks so much for your help
#1640 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing.
#1641 [22:23] <ClashMaxx> Laters!
#1642 [22:23] <Mario8236> !check 76.233.98.162:25565
#1643 [22:23] <Mario8236> :D
#1644 [22:24] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1645 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> !check 72.9.146.82:25587
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#1647 [22:32] <dragos240> Hey, just wondering, not really sure if this is the right place, but: does shiftedIndex control the number of items dropped?
#1648 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Not sure in what context you're referring to..
#1649 [22:34] <dragos240> Ah "If you need help with modding, you shouldn't be doing it". Seems this isn't the right place...
#1650 [22:34] <dragos240> Nevermind
#1651 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> If you're looking for bukkit help, try #bukkitdev
#1652 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> If you're looking for SP help, try #risucraft
#1653 [22:34] <dragos240> Hm. SP?
#1654 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Single player modding
#1655 [22:34] <dragos240> Ah
#1656 [22:35] <dragos240> Thanks :)
#1657 [22:35] * GreyVulpine nods
#1657 [22:35] <dragos240> I assume that both are on esper
#1658 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1659 [22:35] <dragos240> Makes it convinient
#1660 [22:35] <dragos240> Thanks again
#1661 [22:35] <VoxelHead> Thanks again... Thagain.
#1662 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> vox, shut up
#1663 [22:35] <VoxelHead> Nnk.
#1664 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> dragos240 - Possibly something to do with fuel efficiency?
#1665 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> http://minecraftmodding.wikia.com/wiki/Base_structure_of_a_Mod_Loader_mod
#1666 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Search for shiftedindex there
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#1668 [22:42] <dragos240> Hm
#1669 [22:42] <dragos240> It *seemed* to specify the number of items dropped, but I need to confirm that
#1670 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, sorry, I don't know, try asking again in #risucraft. They're the ones in charge of maintaining modloader
#1671 [22:47] <dragos240> Unfortunately they're discussing other matters such as life and other idiots on the channel
#1672 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it happens.
#1673 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> I guess that's your answer then..
#1674 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Also there's a little tutorial here:
#1675 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1036&t=282338
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#1677 [22:51] <cvinion1> Hello, anyone here?
#1678 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1679 [22:51] <cvinion1> Heya grey, This is a quite problomatic issue I have with payment
#1680 [22:52] <cvinion1> And since Im a bull headed moron Ide rather risk $24 than wait three days =)
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#1682 [22:52] <cvinion1> I recently got a prepaid mastercard to buy mine craft with US $24 on it, however because im a moron I read that the card cant be used for overseas online purchases
#1683 [22:53] <cvinion1> Would you be interested in trading a minecraft account for my prepaid debit card info?
#1684 [22:54] <oldtopman> XD
#1685 [22:54] <oldtopman> no.
#1686 [22:54] <vapor> cvinion, I cant say that seems appropriate for a help channel
#1687 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Hmm... Not many of us here are willing to do that
#1688 [22:54] <cvinion1> Heh I figured i needed help and was hoping someone would be helpful =)
#1689 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> cvinion1 - Is there a website listed on that card where you can register it?
#1690 [22:54] <vapor> cvinion, you would be better to have a friend in real life use the card and have them purchase it
#1691 [22:54] <VoxelHead> If i tell you, i will have to kill you.
#1692 [22:55] <cvinion1> I know not the most upstanding question in the eyes of the internet, however was hoping that Ide meet someone whom wasnt as jaded as just about everyone else =P
#1693 [22:55] <cvinion1> Yeah GreyVulpine, however it cant be used for overseas online purchases
#1694 [22:55] <xolotl> cvinion1: Can you pump the money from the card into Paypal?
#1695 [22:55] <VoxelHead> sunday
#1696 [22:55] <xolotl> cvinion1: 'cause then you could just buy MC via Paypale
#1697 [22:56] <xolotl> s/e$//
#1698 [22:56] <cvinion1> I dont mean to sound shady in any means, and Ide even be up for a chat over the phone or giving any information you want, I just dont want to wait the 3-5 days to get my bank account linked to paypal
#1699 [22:56] <cvinion1> I thought you had to use a bank account and not a CC
#1700 [22:56] <N> <@VoxelHead> If i tell you, i will have to kill you.
#1701 [22:56] <N> :D
#1702 [22:56] <VoxelHead> -_-
#1703 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Paypal also accepts credit cards as well
#1704 [22:56] * N pokes DopeGhoti some more
#1704 [22:56] <xolotl> cvinion1: I don't *think* you have to deal with bank account stuff; just, like, send yourself the money as if it were a credit card
#1705 [22:56] <cvinion1> Woot ill try it right now
#1706 [22:56] <xolotl> cvinion1: The balance will remain in Paypal
#1707 [22:56] <VoxelHead> it's me! I was the turkey all along!
#1708 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> vox, shut up
#1709 [22:56] * VoxelHead goes to find someone more interesting to talk to
#1709 [22:57] <cvinion1> I linked it with paypal, just didnt know I could transfer funds from CC to paypal
#1710 [22:57] <xales> You can't, AFAIK
#1711 [22:57] <cvinion1> yeah theres the problem xales
#1712 [22:58] <xolotl> cvinion1: Have you actually tried paying for MC with Paypal, using that card information?
#1713 [22:59] <cvinion1> yup
#1714 [22:59] <cvinion1> and my regular Woodforest bank account with has the same restrictions because its a student account
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#1716 [23:00] <cvinion1> Or does anyone else know of a way to transfer the funds from this CC to my paypal account?
#1717 [23:00] <xales> There's a way, but you need TWO credit cards to do it
#1718 [23:01] <xales> You have to make a second paypal account, using a second credit card on it
#1719 [23:01] <cvinion1> I do have two CC's but both linked on one paypal
#1720 [23:01] <cvinion1> Oh lordie
#1721 [23:01] <xales> then "send money" to the second account from the first
#1722 [23:01] <cvinion1> haha this is so complex
#1723 [23:01] <xales> then use the second account to buy it
#1724 [23:01] <xales> but if you already linked the card...I don't think it will work
#1725 [23:04] <cvinion1> Hey xales
#1726 [23:06] <xales> Hi
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#1729 [23:41] <xales> VoxelHead: courtmartial DopeGhoti with banzai
#1730 [23:41] <VoxelHead> The DopeGhoti Being In Brig Bet!
#1731 [23:41] <VoxelHead> Rules simple. Simply decide if you think I'll find DopeGhoti innocent.
#1732 [23:41] <VoxelHead> "Place" bets now! (!bet innocent and !bet guilty, one bet per person)
#1733 [23:41] * VoxelHead throws Dopeghoti in the brig to await charges
#1733 [23:41] <xales> !bet guilty
#1734 [23:42] <VoxelHead> What you waiting for? bet now!
#1735 [23:42] <aetherian> !bet innocent
#1736 [23:42] <aetherian> !bribe judge
#1737 [23:42] <VoxelHead> !bribe judge... !brudge
#1738 [23:42] <aetherian> ._.
#1739 [23:42] <VoxelHead> Betting ends!
#1740 [23:42] <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti, you are charged with having sex with Tasha Yar, and putting the holodeck into suspended animation
#1741 [23:42] <VoxelHead> You have been found guilty, and are sentenced to polish Captain Picard's head. And may God have mercy on your soul.
#1742 [23:42] <VoxelHead> Congraturation go to big winner who are xales. Well done! Riches beyond your wildest dreams are yours to taking!
#1743 [23:42] <aetherian> damn.
#1744 [23:42] <xales> \o/
#1745 [23:42] <aetherian> I want my bribe money back.
#1746 [23:43] <aetherian> !kill xales
#1747 [23:43] <aetherian> D:
#1748 [23:43] <Orbitoid> that is a cool betting system
#1749 [23:43] <xales> :<
#1750 [23:43] <aetherian> !mug xales
#1751 [23:43] <aetherian> :/
#1752 [23:46] <xales> ??>> mandypoo smp/servers
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