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#8 [00:53] <Jay_p> #help
#9 [00:54] <Jay_p> Anyone on that can help me?
#10 [00:54] <N> Yes/No/Maybe
#11 [00:54] <relsqui> ?? ask
#12 [00:55] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#13 [00:55] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#15 [00:56] <Jay_p> I'm having issues with Minecraft, it crashes with a Java .txt error, anyone that can help?
#16 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Could you paste a copy at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
#17 [00:57] <Jay_p> http://pastebin.com/9yBHSFq2
#18 [00:58] <Jay_p> Much appreciated
#19 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> Looks like a problem with your ATI video drivers, can you update them?
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#21 [00:58] <Orbitoid> Oh hai guys
#22 [00:58] <Orbitoid> just wanted to give you an update on the issue i have been having
#23 [00:59] <Orbitoid> the issue was that i couldnt get my minecraft server to stay running for more than a few mins
#24 [00:59] <aetherian> what makes it stop
#25 [00:59] <Orbitoid> it turns out that Virpus (the VPS host i am using) has Java disabled unless you pay an extra $3 a month for it
#26 [00:59] <aetherian> hehe
#27 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> Aaah.. that explains it then
#28 [00:59] <aetherian> then you better cough up the money
#29 [00:59] <Orbitoid> so no minecraft on Virpus unless you pay an extra $4 a month
#30 [00:59] <Orbitoid> :(
#31 [00:59] <Orbitoid> wait $3
#32 [00:59] <Orbitoid> *
#33 [01:00] <Jay_p> Grey Im downloading the latest ones
#34 [01:00] <Jay_p> Give me a min to install them
#35 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> Alright
#36 [01:00] <Orbitoid> I'm pretty pissed off. but not much i can do about it. I'm pleased that it wasnt anything i was doing wrong. oh and thanks for all your help in here
#37 [01:07] <Jay_p> One I hate about ccc
#38 [01:07] <Jay_p> one thing*
#39 [01:07] <Jay_p> Takes FOREVER to install
#40 [01:09] <Jay_p> Still crashed Grey
#41 [01:09] <Jay_p> Let me restart to see if that fixes anything
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#43 [01:14] <DopeGhoti> can't you just.. install your own damn Java?
#44 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Apparently they disabled java from running.
#45 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't it you and xales that tried to help Orbitoid install java/reinstall the OS?
#46 [01:15] <DopeGhoti> "just rename it to kava
#47 [01:15] <DopeGhoti> "
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#57 [01:43] <Jay_p> Grey you there still?
#58 [01:44] <Jay_p> Anyone on that can help me with a Java error that I'm getting?
#59 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I'm here
#60 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> Still getting the same error?
#61 [01:44] <Jay_p> Ah
#62 [01:44] <Jay_p> http://mibpaste.com/o1ApKt
#63 [01:44] <Jay_p> Think so
#64 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing at that address.
#65 [01:45] <Jay_p> http://mibpaste.com/zXdvAd
#66 [01:45] <Jay_p> Sorry
#67 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, it still says it's an ATI driver issue...
#68 [01:50] <Jay_p> I downloaded the latest ones from ati
#69 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Could you provide a dxdiag?
#70 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#71 [01:50] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#72 [01:50] <Jay_p> Sure
#73 [01:50] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#74 [01:53] <Jay_p> http://pastebin.com/mt16UC7D
#75 [01:53] <Jay_p> There you go Grey
#76 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Jay_p - You got the drivers from: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx
#77 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> ?
#78 [01:57] <Jay_p> Yes
#79 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> Jay_p - I think it'd be best if you try to uninstall the previous drivers completely and try again
#80 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> I can recommend Guru3d's driver sweeper, if you need some utility to wipe a graphics driver
#81 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1655
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#95 [02:55] <NotiCon> wb VoxelHead
#96 [02:55] <VoxelHead> re
#97 [02:58] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :(
#98 [03:00] <Tanjoodo> VoxelHead: but everybody has to go sometime, sometimes even bots, like you.
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#113 [04:52] <Tetyys> Hello
#114 [04:53] <Tetyys> Some1?
#115 [04:53] <NotiCon> ?? ask
#116 [04:53] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#117 [04:53] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#118 [04:54] <NotiCon> \o/
#119 [04:57] <Sqozza> Anyone alive?
#120 [04:57] <Sqozza> My friend is having issues with his wolfies.
#121 [04:57] <NotiCon> they killing him?
#122 [04:57] <Sqozza> Whenever he closes the client and reopens for whatever reason, the wolf becomes unresponsive.
#123 [04:57] <Sqozza> Won't change position, won't take food, etc.
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#126 [04:59] <Sqozza> But yeah, I can't figure it out for the life of me.
#127 [04:59] <Sqozza> So I figured I'd annoy you lads instead
#128 [04:59] <Sqozza> :P
#129 [04:59] <Sqozza> (I personally haven't had problems with em, due to not even finding any. :|)
#130 [04:59] <NotiCon> they dont like you
#131 [04:59] <NotiCon> i saw one wolf
#132 [05:00] <Sqozza> That's most likely the cause, lol.
#133 [05:00] <NotiCon> but not able to tame it due to no bones
#134 [05:00] <Sqozza> They follow him fine, but when he relogs, they break.
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#143 [06:24] <Morrolan> ??< attitude
#144 [06:24] <Morrolan> ??< dontclick
#145 [06:25] <Morrolan> ??< normal
#146 [06:26] <Morrolan> ??< vanilla
#147 [06:27] <Morrolan> Ok, spam is over. ;)
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#150 [06:36] <mib_1iycgs> hey guys, any good ideas of a server provider that supports ftp and mod support?
#151 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Allgamer does it
#152 [06:36] <Morrolan> Multiplay too IIRC.
#153 [06:37] <Morrolan> Clanforge has mod support, not sure about ftp.
#154 [06:37] <SinZ> if it has SSH access, it has sftp access too 99% of the time
#155 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> I believe xenonservers has mod support as well, can also vouch for multiplay
#156 [06:37] <mib_1iycgs> man that is about 500 euro a month for only 2gb
#157 [06:38] <mib_1iycgs> clanforge was my first provider, worst ive ever tried
#158 [06:38] * GreyVulpine prods AG_Scott
#158 [06:38] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: The welcome message of AuBot is linking to http://mchelp.darksigns.net/rules.html , which is down for me. Additionally it's not the same link as in the channel topic. Might want to fix this. ;)
#159 [06:38] <AG_Scott> o:
#160 [06:39] <AG_Scott> ohai
#161 [06:39] <NotiCon> !isdown darksigns.net
#162 [06:39] <GreyBot> NotiCon: It's not just you! http://darksigns.net looks down from here.
#163 [06:39] <AG_Scott> mib_1iycgs: I work at AG if you have any questions.
#164 [06:39] <NotiCon> could be that reason
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#166 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Bleh.
#167 [06:39] <mib_1iycgs> ok im looking a xenonservers, seems nice, but i can only have 1gb and 20 slots it seems like xD
#168 [06:40] * AG_Scott tries to remember who that is.
#168 [06:40] <Morrolan> I assure you, that's more than enough for a start.
#169 [06:40] <NotiCon> !isdown xales.info
#170 [06:40] <GreyBot> NotiCon: It's just you. http://xales.info is up.
#171 [06:40] <AG_Scott> GreyVulpine: he got rid of that domain i think?
#172 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> I don't know
#173 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> What do I need to change?
#174 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> http://faq.xales.info/rules.html works..
#175 [06:40] <mib_1iycgs> Morrolan: its not a start, im changing the provider cause i canceled the one i have now
#176 [06:40] <Morrolan> mib: Oh, ok.
#177 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_1iycgs - What exactly are you looking for?
#178 [06:41] <NotiCon> well if darksigns.net rules.html thingy was the same as the one in the topic then just replace the one in the notice from AuBot with the one in the topic
#179 [06:41] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: registration for darksigns.net expires may the 28th
#180 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#181 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> !help
#182 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> !motd
#183 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Now.. how do I change that..
#184 [06:42] <Morrolan> Mayybe !motd newmotd here
#185 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> !motd test?
#186 [06:42] <Morrolan> Or it could be hardcoded. :p
#187 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, of course it wouldn't be that easy
#188 [06:42] <m0nk> what's motd?
#189 [06:42] <Morrolan> message of the da
#190 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> message of the day
#191 [06:42] <Morrolan> day*
#192 [06:42] <mib_1iycgs> greyvulpine: something with ftp support and not so mutch downtime
#193 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> And how much are you willing to spend?
#194 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> What are your requirements?
#195 [06:44] * GreyVulpine prods Kealper in his sleep to update aubot's motd to have "http://faq.xales.info/rules.html"
#195 [06:44] <mib_1iycgs> right now i pay 38$ i think for 2gb ram
#196 [06:44] <mib_1iycgs> ftp support, mod support if some plugins fail to work or something like that, and good uptime of the server
#197 [06:45] <Tris> mib: brohost?
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#199 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> I've heard and read nothing but poor reviews for that hosting company..
#200 [06:47] <mib_1iycgs> WTF???
#201 [06:47] <mib_1iycgs> Brohoster - We treat you like a bro, not screw you like a ho
#202 [06:48] <mib_1iycgs> thats their line in google lol
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#204 [06:48] <NotiCon> cause its ment to be for bros
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#207 [06:50] <mib_1iycgs> im gonna try http://www.roxservers.com .. any negative stuff about them?
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#210 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Haven't heard of them
#211 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Don't exactly trust their pricing scheme, a gig of ram supporting 6-20 people?
#212 [06:56] <NotiCon> seems french
#213 [06:59] <mib_1iycgs> greyvulpine: that is recommended for 1 gb of ram, you can turn it up to 300 if you want
#214 [06:59] <NotiCon> 300 gigs of ram?
#215 [06:59] <NotiCon> that seems overkill
#216 [06:59] <mib_1iycgs> no slots lol
#217 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, right... I'd like to see you run more than 15 people on 1 gig of ram
#218 [07:00] <mib_1iycgs> if anyone knows a better provider please let me know :)
#219 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Hell, give me 10 people on a gig of ram, and I'll be impressed
#220 [07:00] <mib_1iycgs> without plugins you can greyvulpine
#221 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Also, they're offering Dynmap
#222 [07:00] <mib_1iycgs> ya
#223 [07:00] <mib_1iycgs> so should i go for it'*? :D
#224 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> I honestly don't think they fully tested minecraft's demand with that.
#225 [07:01] <NotiCon> ^
#226 [07:01] <mib_1iycgs> how you mean?
#227 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> Dynmap is a RAM hog.
#228 [07:01] <mib_1iycgs> ya i know :/
#229 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> G'luck getting even half of the slots you are promised
#230 [07:02] <mib_1iycgs> i will get about 20-25 slots with 2gb of ram
#231 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> With no plugins, sure.
#232 [07:02] <mib_1iycgs> no with plugins
#233 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> They're promising 20-40 with 2 gigs of ram
#234 [07:02] <mib_1iycgs> yes
#235 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> Alright then. your money.
#236 [07:02] <mib_1iycgs> i didnt have a problem with 20 players with plugins and dynmap running
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#238 [07:03] <mib_1iycgs> well if you got a better idea please let me know
#239 [07:03] <mib_1iycgs> aslong as its ftp and dynmap i will be happy :)
#240 [07:05] <mib_1iycgs> btw how many players do you guys think i could run on a 4gb dual channel memory and amd phenom ll x6 2.8ghz? :)
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#242 [07:05] <mib_1iycgs> will the cpu be enough?
#243 [07:06] <mib_1iycgs> or do i need fast memory and ssd?
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#245 [07:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_1iycgs - Honestly, the SSD is just a non-issue. It looks good on a hoster's pricing chart, nothing more.
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#247 [07:08] <mib_1iycgs> well its good when making backups to make it faster so players dont lagg for to long
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#249 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> You're talking differences measured in milliseconds.
#250 [07:09] <mib_1iycgs> noo
#251 [07:09] <mib_1iycgs> lets say u got a 300mb world
#252 [07:10] <mib_1iycgs> thats much bigger difference if you got a ssd then a 7200rpm harddrive
#253 [07:10] <mib_1iycgs> but ya not much difference xD
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#256 [07:24] <CSI> Hi
#257 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#258 [07:25] <CSI> I'm having an error whilst playing minecraft
#259 [07:25] <CSI> "java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Comparison method violates its general contract!"
#260 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> Is that the full error you get?
#261 [07:25] <CSI> That's what displays on the screen
#262 [07:26] <CSI> I can pastebin the route if you'd like
#263 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> Do you get a full error report?
#264 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, sure.
#265 [07:26] <CSI> One second.. I'll just get it
#266 [07:27] <_303> oh I had that too several times. looks like notch messed up his comparison method for sorting entities for rendering. not return 0 if two entities have the same distance or so
#267 [07:27] <_303> happens rarely and without apparent cause
#268 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> Is it a corrupt map issue, or a client issue?
#269 [07:28] <_303> client issue
#270 [07:28] <CSI> http://pastebin.com/duCqjhh9
#271 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#272 [07:30] <_303> CSI: did this happen several times or just once?
#273 [07:30] <CSI> It happens often, but not on survival
#274 [07:30] <CSI> it's on creative
#275 [07:31] <_303> was already wondering about com.mojang.minecraft.l.run part
#276 [07:31] <CSI> It's really frustrating :\
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#279 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> This is the first I've seen of this error...
#280 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> Seems like others have reported this because of block+player entity collisions, but that's in beta
#281 [07:32] <CSI> Yeh
#282 [07:32] <CSI> I google'd it before coming here
#283 [07:32] <CSI> Noticed a few others had the same problems
#284 [07:33] <CSI> but the threads had no soloution, rather just a "Problem solved, closed." post.
#285 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> I guess, have you tried a new map? looked at the spawn points, made sure there's nothing blocking it?
#286 [07:34] <CSI> I think it's something to do with the size of the maps, and that I move before they're entirely loaded
#287 [07:34] <CSI> I can go to a map, stand still, watch it load, then move and it'll crash
#288 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> It's possible... are you using a map that's greater than the "huge" 512x512 size?
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#291 [07:37] <CSI> Not always
#292 [07:37] <CSI> It can sometimes crash in 256x256, sometimes smaller
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#294 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I haven't heard of that error at all since I've been in this channel..
#295 [07:41] <CSI> okay thanks for your time
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#297 [07:49] <CSI> I downloaded a new version of java, hopefully this will change something
#298 [07:49] <CSI> :\
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#302 [08:11] <SinZ> I used to do creative all the time and have never seen any errors anything near it
#303 [08:11] <SinZ> i get null pointer exeptions all the time, but that??
#304 [08:13] <CSI> :\
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#312 [09:05] <SinZ> Night people.
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#314 [09:06] <aaronsuratos> hello
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#317 [09:12] <doomboy00> Hey guys, i'm new to this IRC mlarkey, but is this the right channel to get help on minecraft modding or should I be looking for a different channel?
#318 [09:14] <Morrolan> doomboy: For modding you want to go to #risucraft
#319 [09:16] <doomboy00> Thanks
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#322 [09:20] <Ryan_> okay, it says i'm banned on the channel
#323 [09:20] <Ryan_> how to I start speaking to people?
#324 [09:29] <Morrolan> Ryan: Which channel? Minecraft?
#325 [09:29] <oldtopmanserver> Ryan_"What did you do to get banned?
#326 [09:29] <Morrolan> And does it say you're banned, or does it only say that it "could not send to the channel"?
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#328 [09:42] <Ryan_> Could not send to channel.
#329 [09:42] <Ryan_> Nope, i'm not banned.
#330 [09:42] <Ryan_> I've only just brought minecraft! haha!
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#332 [09:46] <smmaelt_> congrats
#333 [09:46] <smmaelt_> :)
#334 [09:48] <Ryan_> Thank you. :)
#335 [09:48] <Ryan_> I just need to know how to speak to others who play it!
#336 [09:49] <oldtopman> Did you read the topic in there?
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#338 [09:50] <mib_10esp2> hey all I need some help with a friend of mine getting minecraft going
#339 [09:50] <mib_10esp2> she's having some sort of a java error when she tries to update...
#340 [09:50] <Ryan_> I didn't, no.
#341 [09:51] <smmaelt_> update java or minecraft.
#342 [09:51] <smmaelt_> ?*
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#344 [09:51] <mib_10esp2> updating minecraft for the first time she just bought the game
#345 [09:51] <mib_10esp2> her error reads
#346 [09:51] <smmaelt_> ryan he meant you need to register your nickname to talk on #minecraft
#347 [09:51] <mib_10esp2> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#348 [09:52] <smmaelt_> then she might think about updating java before
#349 [09:52] <Ryan_> How do I do that?
#350 [09:53] <smmaelt_> i got a similar error when i tried to run it on win7 64bit with a 32bit java installation i think, not sure
#351 [09:53] <Ryan_> I saw the message about <password><email>
#352 [09:53] <mib_10esp2> mmmk should she uninstall java first? or some such
#353 [09:53] <Ryan_> But didn't quite understand it..
#354 [09:53] <smmaelt_> /ns register <PASSWORD> <EMAIL>
#355 [09:54] <smmaelt_> you need to type this with a pass and your mail to register your nick
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#357 [09:54] <smmaelt_> no just try the java website there s an auto updater
#358 [09:54] <smmaelt_> i think
#359 [09:55] <mib_10esp2> yep im having her do that now :)
#360 [09:55] <mib_10esp2> hopefully it works
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#363 [10:00] <CSI> Eh
#364 [10:00] <CSI> Updating java did nothing
#365 [10:00] <CSI> Oh well, I'll live with it
#366 [10:00] <sammaelt> whats the error message
#367 [10:01] <sammaelt> might be an opengl problem
#368 [10:01] <CSI> http://pastebin.com/duCqjhh9
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#370 [10:04] <sammaelt> sorry firefox was crashing
#371 [10:04] <sammaelt> i dunno, you might think about asking on the forum you should get quicker answers
#372 [10:04] <CSI> ?
#373 [10:05] <CSI> Maybe
#374 [10:06] <sammaelt> an illegal argument happen when two java object are in conflict or something, did you try reinstalling a clean vanilla minecraft after updating java
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#377 [10:07] <CSI> Eh, it isn't that
#378 [10:07] <CSI> I don't know what it is, but I know it's not that
#379 [10:07] <sammaelt> deleting the .mincraft folder after copying your saves and redownloading it from minecraft.net
#380 [10:07] <CSI> it's cool don't worry :)
#381 [10:07] <CSI> Thanks anyway
#382 [10:07] <sammaelt> i want the whole world to play minecraft :/
#383 [10:08] <CSI> Lol
#384 [10:08] <CSI> I can play
#385 [10:08] <CSI> just not on big maps
#386 [10:08] <sammaelt> i think a clean installation would work
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#388 [10:08] <sammaelt> well have a nice day :)
#389 [10:08] <CSI> ;p
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#400 [10:36] <bellows> hey all back again my friend updated her java....and even had her delete all minecraft and redo it from fresh but its still done the java error
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#416 [11:29] <Dragonbut> Hai
#417 [11:29] <Oerg866> Dang
#418 [11:29] <Oerg866> I need to fix my MC server
#419 [11:30] <Oerg866> at the startup i get a few messages like this
#420 [11:30] <Oerg866> 12:44:31 [INFO] Chunk file at -28,30 is in the wrong location; relocating. (Expe
#421 [11:30] <Oerg866> cted -28, 30, got -18, 19)
#422 [11:31] <Oerg866> I had power outage a while ago, some chunks went broken
#423 [11:31] <Oerg866> And MinecartMania stopped working :<
#424 [11:31] <Oerg866> it says "Enabled" but it's not boosting, for example
#425 [11:33] <Oerg866> If anyone has any advice, please do share :)
#426 [11:33] <World> well we don't officially support anything but vanilla here
#427 [11:33] <World> try #bukkit
#428 [11:33] <World> we can maybe help with the map damage
#429 [11:34] <World> it should relocate the chunks just once, the first time it finds them
#430 [11:34] <World> so if it does it more than once, something may be more broken than it can fix
#431 [11:34] <World> try stopping and restarting to see if it warns about mislocated chunks again
#432 [11:35] <World> if it does, you might have to have it looked at by a "professional map fixer"
#433 [11:36] <Oerg866> World: Yes it does
#434 [11:36] <Oerg866> and what is a "professional map fixer" ? :)
#435 [11:38] <GLaDOS> bread voice me
#436 [11:39] <World> omg bread!!1
#437 [11:39] <World> anyway, I could look at it
#438 [11:39] <GLaDOS> gtfo
#439 [11:39] <GLaDOS> hm
#440 [11:40] <World> not now, I'm rather busy, but if you leave me a memo (/msg memoserv help) I'll do it later
#441 [11:40] <GLaDOS> Oerg866: someone who has too much time on their hands
#442 [11:40] <GLaDOS> *cough*\
#443 [11:40] <Oerg866> :P
#444 [11:40] <bread> lolwut
#445 [11:40] <World> ^ lol that's anyone but me
#446 [11:40] <bread> i r not op
#447 [11:40] <World> bread!!!!!! *nom*
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#449 [11:40] <World> *munch munch*
#450 [11:40] <Oerg866> NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM
#451 [11:40] <bread> -_-
#452 [11:40] <Oerg866> ha :D
#453 [11:41] * World luvs bread
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#454 [11:41] <GLaDOS> bread: Use the chanserv, luke
#455 [11:42] <Oerg866> World I found out which file it is
#456 [11:42] <Oerg866> it's quite a big file
#457 [11:42] <Oerg866> and it's modified ve3ry recently
#458 [11:42] <Oerg866> so it's probably important
#459 [11:43] <Oerg866> I should probably just ignore the error?
#460 [11:43] <World> can you afford having the server offline for a few hours?
#461 [11:43] <Oerg866> Sure
#462 [11:43] <World> I have class in 2 hours for 2 hours and then I can look at it
#463 [11:44] <Oerg866> That would be so nice, thanks very much man :)
#464 [11:44] <World> well
#465 [11:44] <World> you can leave me a memo or you can join #wugnet and leave a link and any instructions and other relevant info
#466 [11:45] * World coordinates all of his sessions with #wugnet
#466 [11:45] <Oerg866> I'll leave you a memo ;)
#467 [11:45] <World> ok
#468 [11:45] <Oerg866> thanks for the offer :)
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#479 [12:32] <VoxelHead> i had a nice dream about an alive, chocolate body paint covered rainbow and a million hundred million chocolate covered guinea pigs stroking each other
#480 [12:34] <_303> o_O
#481 [12:35] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: you ever heard about ellieg?
#482 [12:35] <VoxelHead> Omg no.
#483 [12:35] <NotiCon> fair enough
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#485 [12:35] * _303 asks ellieg now
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#486 [12:35] <_303> <EllieG> _303: I heard of a minecraft server ever.
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#489 [12:49] <Jay_p> Hey Grey you there?
#490 [12:50] <Jay_p> or is there anyone on that can help me with a ATI Driver conflict with Java
#491 [12:51] <Morrolan> Linux?
#492 [12:51] <Jay_p> No windows
#493 [12:51] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok. Cause someone posted a workaround for Linux some days ago IIRC.
#494 [12:52] <Jay_p> Yea unfortunately one of the latest updates broke minecraft for me
#495 [12:52] <Morrolan> ??< gpu/amd
#496 [12:52] <Morrolan> ?? gpu/amd/solution
#497 [12:52] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd/solution: We have a potential fix for Minecraft crashes with ATI/AMD CPUs and the closed-source driver. Try running Minecraft thusly:
#498 [12:52] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd/solution: `env LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 java -jar /path/to/the/minecraft.jar`
#499 [12:52] <Morrolan> oh, sorry for the spam.
#500 [12:53] <Morrolan> Already tried this though?
#501 [12:53] <Morrolan> Wait, why is it listed under GPU/amd, but the entry speaks of CPUs. :/
#502 [12:53] <Morrolan> And seems that was the solution for Linux I've been talking about, sorry.
#503 [12:53] <Wug> hmm
#504 [12:53] <Jay_p> heh it's fine
#505 [12:54] <Wug> good question about the cpu thing
#506 [12:54] <Jay_p> Need the paste bin of the Java error?
#507 [12:54] <Wug> it should at least be syntactically correct on windows, you might give it a try
#508 [12:54] <Wug> might not work though
#509 [12:54] <Jay_p> http://mibpaste.com/PldAyo
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#511 [12:54] <Jay_p> Just in case
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#513 [12:55] <Wug> are you using 32 bit java on an x64 system?
#514 [12:56] <Morrolan> You did update your drivers I guess?
#515 [12:56] <Jay_p> yea I did update my drivers
#516 [12:57] <Morrolan> Oh well, there goes the easiest solution. ^^
#517 [12:57] <Jay_p> I even uninstalled and re-installed them
#518 [12:57] <Jay_p> BRB
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#521 [12:58] <Jay_p> I think there may be a simple solution
#522 [13:01] <oldtopman> !check
#523 [13:01] <VoxelHead> I like them :)
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#527 [13:03] <Jay_p> No dice on the Java update
#528 [13:03] <Jay_p> I still get the same ATI driver crash
#529 [13:04] <Morrolan> :/
#530 [13:05] <Morrolan> Might want to wait a bit, could be that someone knows how to fix this. I don't sorry.
#531 [13:05] <Jay_p> Does it matter that the Java installed is 32 Bit
#532 [13:05] <Jay_p> ?
#533 [13:05] <NotiCon> shouldnt
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#535 [13:08] <Jay_p> I'll shoot Java an e-mail see what they say
#536 [13:08] <Jay_p> =P
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#540 [13:10] <DopeGhoti> Jay_p: there was a recent update to the AMD video driver for Linux, as I recall; have you impleented it?
#541 [13:11] <NotiCon> he is using windows i think?
#542 [13:11] <DopeGhoti> ...oh; I saw the env trick upchannel
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#544 [13:12] <Jay_p> Yea I'm using windows
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#546 [13:17] <Jay_p> Le-sigh
#547 [13:17] <oldtopmanserver> !check
#548 [13:23] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Speaking of that entry, it says "We have a potential fix for Minecraft crashes with ATI/AMD CPUs...", but I guess it should be "... with ATI/AMD GPUs...". Mind fixing it?
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#550 [13:31] <Jay_p> So Installing 64 Bit java gave me a new error
#551 [13:31] <Jay_p> http://mibpaste.com/u7Kb5p
#552 [13:31] <Jay_p> Any ideas?
#553 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> bildramer
#554 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> 10:12 <@DopeGhoti> Jay_p: there was a recent update to the AMD video driver for Linux, as I recall; have you impleented it? blip2
#555 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> 10:13 < NotiCon> he is using windows i think? bokaholic
#556 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> 10:13 <@DopeGhoti> ...oh; I saw the env trick upchannel Chocolat
#557 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> 1..oops
#558 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> CLASSPATH=.;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\lib\ext\QTJava.zip <-- Looks like it's still the 32-bit Java
#559 [13:33] <NotiCon> Jay_p: try making it run using the 64bit
#560 [13:33] <Jay_p> How do I do that?
#561 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> delete all of C:\program files (x86)\Java after uninstalling the 32-bit version
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#563 [13:36] <Jay_p> brb
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#565 [13:40] <VoxelHead> bye Urughak
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#692 [13:50] <g> there we go
#693 [13:50] <g> lol
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#695 [13:50] <oldtopmanserver> What happenned?
#696 [13:50] * g slaps AuBot and Kealper around a bit with an unreasonably massive trout.
#696 [13:50] <Morrolan> Netsplit.
#697 [13:50] <Morrolan> And seems AuBot tried to send everyone the MOTD again.
#698 [13:50] <oldtopmanserver> oh, there are all the ns's up there
#699 [13:50] <oldtopmanserver> XD
#700 [13:50] <Morrolan> And got kicked for that. ^^
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#702 [13:51] <NotiCon> AuBot didnt get kicked it got thrown off the network for spamming it
#703 [13:52] <Jay_p> No dice on the Java 32 bit uninstall
#704 [13:52] <Jay_p> Still get the error
#705 [13:53] <Jay_p> Why did notch have to break minecraft with the ATI cards
#706 [13:53] <Jay_p> -_-
#707 [13:53] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#708 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> more like AMD broke their GPUs' compatibility with Minecraft
#709 [13:54] <Jay_p> Or Java for that matter
#710 [13:54] <Morrolan> NotiCon: Yeah, taht's waht I meant. ;)
#711 [13:54] <NotiCon> more like java is being silly
#712 [13:54] <Morrolan> that's*
#713 [13:54] <NotiCon> java is cruel
#714 [13:55] <NotiCon> might be easy to program in
#715 [13:55] <NotiCon> but hell to make it work proper
#716 [13:55] <Jay_p> Well
#717 [13:55] <Jay_p> I guess I spoke too soon
#718 [13:56] <NotiCon> its working?
#719 [13:56] <Jay_p> Unisntalling the JDK kit that came along with 64 Bit Java fixed my issue
#720 [13:56] <Jay_p> Huzzah
#721 [13:56] <Jay_p> Uninstalling
#722 [13:56] <Jay_p> Yea
#723 [13:56] <Jay_p> It works
#724 [13:56] <Jay_p> Hurray I found a work around!
#725 [13:56] <NotiCon> great
#726 [13:57] <Jay_p> Might be good to add it on the Bot data base
#727 [13:58] <Wug> its not easy to program in either
#728 [13:58] <Wug> there is nothing easy about writing 'System.out.println'
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#730 [14:00] <Jay_p> So
#731 [14:00] <Jay_p> Thats it for me
#732 [14:00] <Jay_p> Thanks for your input guys
#733 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> glad you're up and running
#734 [14:01] <Jay_p> If some poor bloke comes in with ATI driver issues remember upgrade to 64 bit java'
#735 [14:01] <Jay_p> Cya!
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#737 [14:07] <NotiCon> aww
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#741 [14:17] <ALT3RNAT1V3> Who broke it this time?
#742 [14:18] <mr_flea> The internet.
#743 [14:18] <ALT3RNAT1V3> mr or mrs?
#744 [14:18] <DarkSkyes> afk
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#751 [14:31] <chaoticoz> mc down?
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#753 [14:37] <Null> http://gyazo.com/328631f3543176652b676e6248d049e0.png <---- what does this error message mean?
#754 [14:37] <Null> i can't join any servers.
#755 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> Error code 503 usually means minecraft's server is down
#756 [14:39] <Null> oh.. lol
#757 [14:39] <[z]> Which it is.. Yet again.
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#759 [14:39] <Desparil> mc down?
#760 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#761 [14:39] <Null> i seem to get alot of errors ... rather often
#762 [14:39] <Desparil> alrighty
#763 [14:39] <[z]> /topic #minecrafthelp Yes, minecraft.net is still down ;)
#764 [14:40] <Desparil> :p
#765 [14:40] <Null> does this happen alot?
#766 [14:40] <Desparil> nah
#767 [14:40] <Desparil> I was hoping for update
#768 [14:40] <Null> im amazed at how much money they have made for a game in beta lol :\
#769 [14:41] <Desparil> you would be even more so if you looked at big budget games then :p
#770 [14:42] <Null> and i like the novelty of the block graphics , it's only my second day playing lol
#771 [14:43] <Null> you heard about that new game terraria?
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#773 [14:46] <Desparil> nus
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#779 [14:47] <onix> Is minecraft down?
#780 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#781 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> !isdown www.minecraft.net
#782 [14:47] <GreyBot> DopeGhoti: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#783 [14:47] <onix> sh*t.
#784 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> not here, use the #latrine
#785 [14:50] <JasonBeee> someone make minecraft ho up :O
#786 [14:50] <JasonBeee> go up
#787 [14:51] <JasonBeee> !isdown www.minecraft.net
#788 [14:51] <GreyBot> JasonBeee: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#789 [14:51] <JasonBeee> :x
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#792 [14:53] <PH0ENIX> hello all
#793 [14:53] <VoxelHead> ;)
#794 [14:53] <Null> hmmm
#795 [14:53] <PH0ENIX> heu Null
#796 [14:54] <PH0ENIX> does anyone have any idea when minecraft will be up again?
#797 [14:54] <PH0ENIX> and if i can connect to my own server without it?
#798 [14:54] <Morrolan> No, why should we?
#799 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Soon™
#800 [14:54] <PH0ENIX> hey grey :-)
#801 [14:54] <Morrolan> Ph0enik: Use online-mode=false
#802 [14:54] <Desparil> ^
#803 [14:54] <sammaelt> what's the unicode for trademark
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#806 [14:54] <PH0ENIX> in the server settings, or client settings?
#807 [14:55] <Morrolan> server
#808 [14:55] <MrCrashdummy> Hello
#809 [14:55] <Morrolan> Hey Crashdummy
#810 [14:55] <PH0ENIX> hmm
#811 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is down
#812 [14:55] <Noobicious> Google Alt Codes Sammaelt
#813 [14:55] <sammaelt> hi MrCrashdummy
#814 [14:55] <sammaelt> i was lazy Noob :/
#815 [14:55] <MrCrashdummy> Any one available to help me?
#816 [14:55] <PH0ENIX> whats the file name for the server settings file?
#817 [14:55] <Noobicious> Me too :/
#818 [14:55] <PH0ENIX> its not where its supposed to be
#819 [14:55] <Morrolan> Depends on what you need. ;)
#820 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> MrCrashdummy - With?
#821 [14:55] <MrCrashdummy> I need help with modding, making tools
#822 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft will be able to help you there
#823 [14:56] <Morrolan> #risucraft might be better for you then.
#824 [14:56] <sammaelt> too bad i cant help you i speak your native language :/
#825 [14:56] <sammaelt> fast answer
#826 [14:56] <MrCrashdummy> Well never mind then, I tried #risucraft but all the do is making jokes and talking to bots ;S
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#828 [14:56] <Morrolan> ^^
#829 [14:57] <VoxelHead> :)
#830 [14:57] <_303> MrCrashdummy: I'll +m for you
#831 [14:57] <Morrolan> Slap some of them, either you'll get kicked, or you'll get an answer I guess.
#832 [14:57] <Morrolan> Or well, better go with 303's idea. :D
#833 [14:57] <Ponti> hey
#834 [14:57] <Morrolan> Hey Ponti
#835 [14:57] <MrCrashdummy> Erm.. I'm new to the whole irc thing. What is +m?
#836 [14:57] <MrCrashdummy> Hi Ponti
#837 [14:58] <Morrolan> Ponti: Yes, minecraft.net is down, if that's what you want to ask. :D
#838 [14:58] <MrCrashdummy> haha xD
#839 [14:58] <VoxelHead> SON! THERE BETTER NOT BE ANY WALKING DEAD UP THERE!
#840 [14:58] <_303> VoxelHead: shut up
#841 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> vox, shut up
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#843 [14:58] <VoxelHead> bah
#844 [14:58] <Morrolan> MrCrashdummy: Means that random (non-voiced) people can't speak in that channel anymore.
#845 [14:58] <Ponti> no not really
#846 [14:58] <Ponti> i've got another problem :-)
#847 [14:58] <Morrolan> Ponti: Ok then. :)
#848 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> By all means, shoot.
#849 [14:59] <MrCrashdummy> I always love to go to minecraftforum.net when minecraft.net is down, everyone freaks out xD
#850 [14:59] <Ponti> well
#851 [14:59] <Ponti> I'd like to try industrialcraft
#852 [14:59] <PH0ENIX> can i enable the nether without setting it as spawn?
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#854 [14:59] <Ponti> but alkaba has taken v6.50 down because it's buggy
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#856 [14:59] <Ponti> so i'd like to play v6.37
#857 [14:59] <Morrolan> Ph0enix: Uhm, no idea, not in Vanilla I guess.
#858 [14:59] <_303> Ponti: look up mcnostalgia
#859 [14:59] <Morrolan> You'll have to use bukkit for that.
#860 [14:59] <Ponti> but that only works on minecraft 1.4_01.jar
#861 [15:00] <MrCrashdummy> Ponti look for mcnostalgia 0.7
#862 [15:00] <PH0ENIX> thats annoying, can i still travel between the nether and regular world?
#863 [15:00] <Morrolan> PH0ENIX: Not in vanilla, no.
#864 [15:00] <Morrolan> It's either Nether or normal world.
#865 [15:00] <MrCrashdummy> Morrolan are you familiar with servers?
#866 [15:00] <PH0ENIX> ah
#867 [15:00] <Morrolan> MrCrashdummy: Not really. :/
#868 [15:00] <PH0ENIX> well then
#869 [15:00] <Proffni> hm has anyone an idea why i cant connect to any server?
#870 [15:00] <PH0ENIX> thats rather annoying
#871 [15:00] <Morrolan> Proffni: Minecraft.net is down atm.
#872 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Proffni - MC's login server is down
#873 [15:01] <sammaelt> site back up
#874 [15:01] <Desparil> PH0ENIX it will be possible in 1.6
#875 [15:01] <Ponti> incredible
#876 [15:01] <PH0ENIX> awesome
#877 [15:01] <MrCrashdummy> So you wouldn't know any good Canary mods then?
#878 [15:01] <Proffni> hm kk
#879 [15:01] <Ponti> noone was able to tell me that yesterday :-)
#880 [15:01] <Proffni> when will it be on again?
#881 [15:01] <Ponti> thx i'll try right away
#882 [15:01] <_303> MrCrashdummy: #canary
#883 [15:01] <PH0ENIX> Desparil any idea of when that release is coming?
#884 [15:01] <Proffni> or is it not planned?
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#886 [15:01] <MrCrashdummy> Ow thanks
#887 [15:01] <Morrolan> Phoenix: Nope.
#888 [15:01] <Morrolan> No release data set so far.
#889 [15:01] <PH0ENIX> fair enough
#890 [15:01] <Desparil> "not soon" according to the almighty Notch
#891 [15:01] <PH0ENIX> thanks
#892 [15:02] <Morrolan> Proffni: Soon we hope, we don't know though.
#893 [15:02] <Proffni> ah ok
#894 [15:02] <PH0ENIX> i wonder why, it works in single player...
#895 [15:02] <Noobicious> Minecraft.net Is up again so everybady knows.
#896 [15:02] <MrCrashdummy> is _303 a bot?
#897 [15:02] <Morrolan> Nope.
#898 [15:02] <_303> :V
#899 [15:02] <Proffni> yeah then ill be offline for today :D good night :)
#900 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#901 [15:02] <Morrolan> The last time I checked that is. :D
#902 [15:02] <MrCrashdummy> Hmm... I guess i have spend to much time at #risucraft
#903 [15:02] <Morrolan> Noobivious: Ah, nice.
#904 [15:02] <Morrolan> Noobicious*
#905 [15:02] <Noobicious> ^^
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#907 [15:03] <MrCrashdummy> wait a minute, _303 are you that modmaker?
#908 [15:03] <_303> yes
#909 [15:03] <Morrolan> Oh, THEY found out, quick, hide, 303. :p
#910 [15:03] <sammaelt> burn!!
#911 [15:03] <Morrolan> Sorry, 303 not found.
#912 [15:03] <MrCrashdummy> xD I haz a 404 fault...
#913 [15:04] <MrCrashdummy> Now everybody thinks your a hacker dude
#914 [15:05] <MrCrashdummy> As\i said before, I'm new to the whole IRC thing. Is it possible for me to be in 2 rooms at the same time?
#915 [15:05] <Morrolan> Sure.
#916 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#917 [15:05] <[z]> /join #whatever
#918 [15:05] <Noobicious> Yes
#919 [15:05] <MrCrashdummy> And how?
#920 [15:06] <Morrolan> what z said.
#921 [15:06] <MrCrashdummy> A thanks
#922 [15:06] <Desparil> use Opera for irc :)
#923 [15:06] <Noobicious> (Opera Yea! I use)
#924 [15:06] <Morrolan> Or use the irc client of your preference. :)
#925 [15:07] <MrCrashdummy> Im using irc.esper atm
#926 [15:07] <Desparil> 0_o
#927 [15:07] <Morrolan> That's a network, client is something like Mibbit (*cough*), mIRC, HydraIRC or similar.
#928 [15:07] <MrCrashdummy> irc.esper uses Mibbit.
#929 [15:07] <Noobicious> Its cool you got here though.
#930 [15:08] <Desparil> haha yea for a first timer :p
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#932 [15:09] <SilverHRIZN> Hello?
#933 [15:09] <Morrolan> hey
#934 [15:09] <MrCrashdummy> Well, not that hard, I just went to minecraft.net/community and there it says that I should use irc.esper
#935 [15:09] <MrCrashdummy> Hi
#936 [15:09] <SilverHRIZN> Hello, I know that you're not really here for anything else but minecraft.
#937 [15:09] <MrCrashdummy> But?
#938 [15:09] <MrCrashdummy> ;)
#939 [15:10] <Morrolan> Ok then?
#940 [15:10] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#941 [15:10] <SilverHRIZN> But i'm having a bit of trouble connecting to the other minecraft channel.
#942 [15:10] <Morrolan> #Minecraft ?
#943 [15:10] <SilverHRIZN> I'm getting some sort of error message?
#944 [15:10] <Morrolan> You'll need to register you nickname to speek there.
#945 [15:10] <SilverHRIZN> Yeah, that one.
#946 [15:10] <Morrolan> ./msg nickserv help
#947 [15:10] <Morrolan> for more info.
#948 [15:10] <xales> ?? irc
#949 [15:10] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#950 [15:11] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#951 [15:11] <Morrolan> speak*
#952 [15:11] <SilverHRIZN> I've already registered.
#953 [15:11] <SilverHRIZN> And was talking earlier on.
#954 [15:12] <Morrolan> Did you close your client since then?
#955 [15:12] <SilverHRIZN> And now i'm getting "=== #minecraft Cannot send to channel"
#956 [15:12] <MrCrashdummy> Morrolan, ever heard of the last name e'Drien?
#957 [15:12] <SilverHRIZN> I think i did, yeah.
#958 [15:12] <Morrolan> MrCrashdummy: Yep
#959 [15:12] <Morrolan> Silver: use /msg nickserv identify password
#960 [15:13] <Morrolan> with password=your password, obviously. ;)
#961 [15:13] <Morrolan> You'll have to do this everytime you join this network, in order to verify your nick.
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#963 [15:14] <MrCrashdummy> Hello LRWerewolf
#964 [15:14] <xales> You can set your client to automatically do that for you, with the vast majority of them
#965 [15:14] <Morrolan> ^
#966 [15:14] <SilverHRIZN> I'm using Chatzilla.
#967 [15:14] <SilverHRIZN> And i've found out the problem.
#968 [15:14] <SilverHRIZN> I've been banned. :/
#969 [15:14] <MrCrashdummy> I want to use that too! That sounds awesome!
#970 [15:15] <SilverHRIZN> I haven't even talked that much.
#971 [15:15] <MrCrashdummy> Sorry, kind of of topic
#972 [15:15] <xales> SilverHRIZN: No, you haven't
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#974 [15:15] <xales> It says you are "banned" because of the utility that stops people from talking if they aren't registered
#975 [15:15] <xales> ??> SilverHRIZN irc/dontpm
#976 [15:15] <VoxelHead> SilverHRIZN: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#977 [15:16] <xales> Anyway, you aren't banned
#978 [15:16] <xales> If you were banned, you wouldn't be able to join the channel
#979 [15:16] <MrCrashdummy> How do you guys to those commands?\
#980 [15:16] <oldtopman> ??> SilverHRIZN irc
#981 [15:16] <VoxelHead> SilverHRIZN: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#982 [15:16] <VoxelHead> SilverHRIZN: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#983 [15:17] <oldtopman> ??>> MrCrashdummy index
#984 [15:17] <Morrolan> MrCrashdummy: Oh, and to come back to it, yes, my nickname is "inspired" by that book in question. :)
#985 [15:17] <SilverHRIZN> I've already registered!
#986 [15:17] <MrCrashdummy> Haha, I knew it!
#987 [15:17] <Morrolan> Silver: yes, but you NEED TO LOG IN
#988 [15:17] <VoxelHead> The child shrieks like a fruitbat!
#989 [15:17] <Morrolan> Silver: /msg nickserv identify passwordhere
#990 [15:18] <MrCrashdummy> is PHOENIX still here?
#991 [15:18] <Morrolan> MrCrashdummy: I've been around the internet for quite some time now, but you're the first who seemed to recognise that name. :)
#992 [15:18] <MrCrashdummy> guess not
#993 [15:18] <MrCrashdummy> Woo! #1
#994 [15:18] <VoxelHead> wee... do that again
#995 [15:19] <Jos-> I am on ice, there is water below me, I hear snoring very very loud and clearly]
#996 [15:19] <Jos-> and I cant find the mob
#997 [15:19] <Noobicious> Use F3
#998 [15:19] <Morrolan> Maybe a cave below the water?
#999 [15:19] <Jos-> what type of mob snores and whats the distance from where I can hear it?
#1000 [15:19] <Morrolan> Snore? Uh. :/
#1001 [15:19] <Jos-> water is matybe 4 deep, or 5 where I best here it
#1002 [15:19] <Jos-> yeh, sleep
#1003 [15:19] <MrCrashdummy> Could you describe the sound?
#1004 [15:19] <Keltinray> probably the zombie-groaning
#1005 [15:19] <Morrolan> Zombies maybe?
#1006 [15:19] <MrCrashdummy> Sleep?
#1007 [15:19] <MrCrashdummy> xD
#1008 [15:19] <VoxelHead> Sleeeeeeeeeeeeep?
#1009 [15:19] <Noobicious> Use F3 to check for a Mob Number
#1010 [15:19] <MrCrashdummy> Maybe a tired man?
#1011 [15:20] <Keltinray> VoxelHead, are you a hat?
#1012 [15:20] <VoxelHead> yeah want a go? :)
#1013 [15:20] <MrCrashdummy> O.o
#1014 [15:21] <Jos-> zombie-roaning, but its like snoring... breath-in and outtttt
#1015 [15:21] <oldtopman> Jos-:Zombies
#1016 [15:21] <MrCrashdummy> Probably in a cave below the water
#1017 [15:21] <Noobicious> "Its your breath in a mic"
#1018 [15:21] <MrCrashdummy> xD
#1019 [15:21] <Noobicious> No srsly; Check with F3 as I said
#1020 [15:22] <MrCrashdummy> Indeed, except when you are using an old and bad pc.
#1021 [15:22] <MrCrashdummy> Then the only thing you will see is a huge red wall
#1022 [15:22] <Noobicious> (I know; I have a netbook ye know)
#1023 [15:22] <Noobicious> IT CONSUMES THE SCREEN!xP
#1024 [15:23] <MrCrashdummy> Noobicious Im using a 6 year old laptop atm... It's awfull
#1025 [15:23] <Noobicious> Im using a Brand new Desktop Computer , and Im having an older Desktop computer thats quite good and I got a netbook. Quite funny seeing differences in games.
#1026 [15:23] <MrCrashdummy> Xales do you know that there is a shop with the same name that sells furniture for outdoors?
#1027 [15:25] <Jos-> okk...
#1028 [15:25] <Jos-> I see stuff
#1029 [15:25] <Jos-> but sound is gone
#1030 [15:25] <MrCrashdummy> Do you see numbers?\
#1031 [15:25] <Jos-> i see rectangles small one
#1032 [15:25] <Jos-> I guess mobs are below the surface fo sand etc
#1033 [15:25] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: for future reference: .set motd This is the MOTD that you want to set. All formatting like this (including colors) is retained and will be sent
#1034 [15:25] <Noobicious> Well yes
#1035 [15:25] <Jos-> not numbers, too smallto read :P
#1036 [15:25] <Jos-> scary...
#1037 [15:25] <Noobicious> It is numbers, the numbers are a mob
#1038 [15:25] <Jos-> Ah
#1039 [15:25] <MrCrashdummy> There should be numbers, you dont have to be able to read them, but the numbers are the mob
#1040 [15:26] <Jos-> I can see a number right below me
#1041 [15:26] <Jos-> and snoring too
#1042 [15:26] <MrCrashdummy> like 12345
#1043 [15:26] <Noobicious> If it is hard to read the mob is far away
#1044 [15:26] <MrCrashdummy> That's probably a zombie then, I don't think the numbesr mean anything really.
#1045 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - Ah, thanks.
#1046 [15:26] <MrCrashdummy> *numbers
#1047 [15:26] <Noobicious> The number (AFAIK) is somewhat of spawnnumbers
#1048 [15:27] <MrCrashdummy> Noobicious Probably, yes
#1049 [15:27] <Jos-> probably object ID
#1050 [15:27] <Kealper> those numbers displayed above everything in the F3 mode are the entity's ID
#1051 [15:27] <Noobicious> ^
#1052 [15:27] <Kealper> anything that moves is an entity, monsters, wolves, pigs, players, etc are all entities, and so the game knows what is what, each have their own unique ID
#1053 [15:28] <MrCrashdummy> But you can't see what kind of mob it is, only looking at the ID right? Some one once told me that you could.
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#1055 [15:28] <Kealper> no, you can't
#1056 [15:28] <Noobicious> @Kealper; Now that you mention it, I have read it somewhere, Wiki prob.
#1057 [15:28] <Kealper> IDs are issued in sequential order
#1058 [15:29] <MrCrashdummy> I think Notch should make it so that when you press F3, you can't see those numbers. I use them right now, but it makes me feel like I'm cheating...
#1059 [15:29] <MrCrashdummy> *them=it
#1060 [15:29] <Noobicious> Well it is a Dev-Function
#1061 [15:29] <Morrolan> He mentioned that he'll remove them later on.
#1062 [15:29] <MrCrashdummy> *it=pressing F3
#1063 [15:29] <Kealper> those were added in for Beta 1.3
#1064 [15:30] <Kealper> and yeah, F3 is more just debug info for when they are making the game
#1065 [15:30] <Noobicious> (It was able to use before 1.3, just that you had to hold the key)
#1066 [15:30] <Kealper> they just allow players to use it because it also tells about performance things
#1067 [15:30] <MrCrashdummy> @Noobicous, @Kealper, I know they have to be there, (or at least are handy to have) but it's kind of ease spotting caves right now.
#1068 [15:30] <MrCrashdummy> *noobicious
#1069 [15:31] <MrCrashdummy> *easy
#1070 [15:31] <Kealper> so look at the sky before you press it :P
#1071 [15:31] <MrCrashdummy> I'd rather see it dissapear, but I have to say I do like the whole F3 thing. The performance bar etc.
#1072 [15:31] <Noobicious> Yea , I know. Many uses it on my Server to find Natural Caverns...
#1073 [15:32] <MrCrashdummy> Noobicious, facing the same problem here.
#1074 [15:32] <MrCrashdummy> What kind of server mod are you using?
#1075 [15:32] <Noobicious> I want Latency and Fps showing options manually!
#1076 [15:32] <me-mark-b> How can i contact Notch ?
#1077 [15:32] <VoxelHead> I already have one of those.
#1078 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> me-mark-b - What about?
#1079 [15:32] <Noobicious> satisfaction.com I believe
#1080 [15:32] <me-mark-b> my mark_b account got stolen
#1081 [15:32] <MrCrashdummy> me-mark-b ^
#1082 [15:32] <Noobicious> (I aint using Mods, Immah Vanilla Server keeper .)
#1083 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> me-mark-b - You'll want to use support@mojang.com
#1084 [15:33] <Kealper> no, don't go to that site....
#1085 [15:33] <MrCrashdummy> ^
#1086 [15:33] <me-mark-b> ok thanks
#1087 [15:33] <Kealper> not only is that link wrong, it is for technical support and not account support
#1088 [15:33] <MrCrashdummy> Good luck retrieving your account! I hope you''ll get it back.
#1089 [15:33] <Noobicious> Yea, know. Quick writing and general not-knowing the specified question
#1090 [15:33] <Kealper> for future reference about that site: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#1091 [15:33] <Noobicious> Sry for that.
#1092 [15:33] <xolotl> Ha, satisfaction.com is awesome
#1093 [15:33] <me-mark-b> :3
#1094 [15:34] <Kealper> xolotl: is it actually SFW? lol
#1095 [15:34] <xolotl> Kealper: Yeah, it's just way lame
#1096 [15:34] <Kealper> oh lol
#1097 [15:34] <Kealper> wow, it is
#1098 [15:34] <xolotl> I can't find an easy way to share my "Minecraft is Awesome" glitter-text bar.
#1099 [15:35] <Kealper> XD
#1100 [15:35] <xolotl> (at least, outside of Facebook)
#1101 [15:36] <MrCrashdummy> An xolotl is that scary fish like animal right?
#1102 [15:36] <MrCrashdummy> *a
#1103 [15:36] <MrCrashdummy> Why does everybody here uses cool names, except for me....
#1104 [15:36] <xolotl> MrCrashdummy: "axolotl" is a kind of salamander, I think. Xolotl is actually an Aztec god
#1105 [15:36] <NotiCon> cause you are not cool?
#1106 [15:37] <xolotl> (yes, I know, how presumptuous)
#1107 [15:37] <MrCrashdummy> xolotl, soz
#1108 [15:37] <Kealper> my name is just a mashup of my real name :P
#1109 [15:37] <MrCrashdummy> xD
#1110 [15:37] <xolotl> Also I guess there's something similarly-named in Pokemon?
#1111 [15:37] <Kealper> how is xolotl even pronnounced....
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#1113 [15:37] <MrCrashdummy> Is there?
#1114 [15:37] * GreyVulpine wonders if..
#1114 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> !wiki xolotl
#1115 [15:37] <xolotl> Kealper: sho-lottle is the official way
#1116 [15:37] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xolotl
#1117 [15:37] <GreyBot> In Aztec mythology, Xolotl (Nahuatl pronunciation: [ˈʃolotɬ]) was the god with associations to both lightning and death.
#1118 [15:37] <MrCrashdummy> Exolotol
#1119 [15:38] <xolotl> Kealper: I really enjoy saying "ecks-olotl" though
#1120 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Hey, it has a wiki entry
#1121 [15:38] <xolotl> Indeed!
#1122 [15:38] <Kealper> oh, i was calling it zoh-lottle lol
#1123 [15:38] <VoxelHead> \o/ Indeed
#1124 [15:38] <MrCrashdummy> O.o
#1125 [15:38] <MrCrashdummy> I want one too!
#1126 [15:38] <MrCrashdummy> can i do that ! wiki command too?
#1127 [15:38] <Kealper> idk
#1128 [15:38] <MrCrashdummy> !wiki Pokemon
#1129 [15:38] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon
#1130 [15:39] <GreyBot> Pokémon (ポケモン, Pokemon?, English pronunciation: /ˈpoʊkeɪmɒn/ POH-kay-mon) is a media franchise published and owned by the video game company Nintendo and created by Satoshi Tajiri in 1996. Originally released as a pair of interlinkable Game Boy role-playing video games developed by Game Freak, Pokémon has since become the second most successful
#1131 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> As long as it doesn't spam..
#1132 [15:39] <GreyBot> and lucrative video game-based media franchise in the world, behind only Nintendo's own Mario series. Pokémon properties have since been merchandised into anime, manga, trading cards, toys, books, and other media. The franchise celebrated its tenth anniversary in 2006, and as of 28 May 2010 (2010 -05-28)[update], cumulative sales of the video games
#1133 [15:39] <GreyBot> (including home console versions, such as the "Pikachu" Nintendo 64) have reached more than 200 million copies.
#1134 [15:39] <MrCrashdummy> :D
#1135 [15:39] <Kealper> oh god
#1136 [15:39] <me-mark-b> How do i cantact someone that can help me ?
#1137 [15:39] <VoxelHead> =D
#1138 [15:39] <MrCrashdummy> Haha xD
#1139 [15:39] <VoxelHead> Take me to the meat.
#1140 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> me-mark-b - With account issues, support@mojang.com will take care of you
#1141 [15:39] <Kealper> bah, ninja'd
#1142 [15:39] <MrCrashdummy> !wiki Markus Persson
#1143 [15:39] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Persson
#1144 [15:39] <GreyBot> Markus Alexej Persson (commonly known as "Notch") is a Swedish C++, ActionScript, and Java programmer, and is also the founder of Mojang AB. He is currently developing the popular video game Minecraft.
#1145 [15:39] <MrCrashdummy> <3
#1146 [15:39] <me-mark-b> yes but what do i do there ?
#1147 [15:39] <Kealper> that was a short first sentence
#1148 [15:40] <MrCrashdummy> !wiki Rick Roll
#1149 [15:40] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickrolling
#1150 [15:40] <GreyBot> Rickrolling is an Internet meme that involves the music video for the 1987 Rick Astley song "Never Gonna Give You Up". The meme is a bait and switch: a person provides a hyperlink that they claim is relevant to the topic at hand, but the link actually takes the user to the Astley video. The link can be masked or obfuscated in some manner so that the user cannot
#1151 [15:40] <GreyBot> determine the true destination of the link without clicking. When a person clicks on the link and is led to the web page, he or she is said to have been "rickrolled". Rickrolling has extended beyond web links to playing the video or song disruptively in other situations, including public places; this culminated when Astley and the song made a surprise appearance
#1152 [15:40] <GreyBot> in the 2008 Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, a televised event with tens of millions of viewers.
#1153 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> !part
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#1155 [15:40] <Morrolan> me-mark-b: You send them a mail?
#1156 [15:40] <Kealper> me-mark-b: just say what happened, what your account name is, and provide proof of purchase
#1157 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Please don't spam with !wiki
#1158 [15:40] <MrCrashdummy> From now:
#1159 [15:40] <Kealper> and yeah, it's right in the rules not to abuse the bot commands
#1160 [15:40] <MrCrashdummy> Never will i dothat again
#1161 [15:40] <MrCrashdummy> Gonna stop doing it ;P
#1162 [15:41] <MrCrashdummy> Give me questions....
#1163 [15:41] <MrCrashdummy> You know you want that
#1164 [15:41] <Kealper> uhh...wut
#1165 [15:41] <MrCrashdummy> Up there...
#1166 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1167 [15:41] <MrCrashdummy> Never going there again
#1168 [15:41] <MrCrashdummy> Let me out!
#1169 [15:41] * Kealper is so confused
#1169 [15:42] <MrCrashdummy> oops i ruined it.... dmn
#1170 [15:42] <MrCrashdummy> Again:
#1171 [15:42] <MrCrashdummy> Never will i do that again
#1172 [15:42] <MrCrashdummy> Gonna stop nw
#1173 [15:42] <MrCrashdummy> Give me questions\
#1174 [15:42] <MrCrashdummy> You know you want that
#1175 [15:42] <MrCrashdummy> Up there....
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#1177 [15:42] <Kealper> i have no idea what you are on about...but stop
#1178 [15:42] <MrCrashdummy> Never going here again
#1179 [15:43] <MrCrashdummy> Going to be mad? Please no! This will be awesome
#1180 [15:43] <MrCrashdummy> let me be free plz
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#1183 [15:43] <Kealper> what i said was a formal warning
#1184 [15:43] <MrCrashdummy> C'mon guys,...
#1185 [15:43] <MrCrashdummy> Look at the first word of my messages, I was singing a song...
#1186 [15:44] <Kealper> and i told you to stop
#1187 [15:44] <MrCrashdummy> I was trying to finish it... soz
#1188 [15:44] <MrCrashdummy> Won't do it again
#1189 [15:45] <Kealper> anyways.... GreyVulpine: you, dope, and xales can do the stuff like .set motd and such, feel free to change it whenever you want
#1190 [15:45] <Kealper> and if you want it to not send it, just do .set motd [disable]
#1191 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Did you change AuBot's motd to match the (working) rules link?
#1192 [15:46] <Kealper> oh, no....lemme do that right quick
#1193 [15:46] <Jos-> I committed suicide
#1194 [15:46] <Kealper> what's the new link? too lazy to /topic
#1195 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> bleh.
#1196 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> /topic #minecrafthelp
#1197 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> http://faq.xales.info/rules.html
#1198 [15:47] <Kealper> updated
#1199 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Thanks Kealper.
#1200 [15:49] <Morrolan> ??< gpu/amd/solution
#1201 [15:49] <MrCrashdummy> Did you people hear about the maps?
#1202 [15:50] <Morrolan> Ah, could someone please update that entry? It still says "We have a potential fix for Minecraft crashes with ATI/AMD CPUs" instead of "... with ATI/AMD GPU's"
#1203 [15:51] <Morrolan> Unless it's really about CPU's, but then the category it is in is wrong.
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#1205 [15:51] <Proffni> hi all
#1206 [15:51] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1207 [15:51] <Morrolan> hey Proffni.
#1208 [15:51] <MrCrashdummy> Hi Proffni
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#1210 [15:52] <Proffni> how r u?
#1211 [15:52] <Morrolan> Can't complain.
#1212 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> ??< gpu/amd/solution
#1213 [15:55] <oldtopman> Proffni: DId you need some help?
#1214 [15:57] <Proffni> i thought i do, but i think the prob is on the server not on me :P
#1215 [15:57] <NotiCon> :(
#1216 [15:57] <NotiCon> ¨then you are not able to being helped
#1217 [15:59] <Proffni> yeah i see ;)
#1218 [15:59] <me-mark-b> what is Notches e-mail for me to send him a message ?
#1219 [15:59] <me-mark-b> *Notch's
#1220 [16:00] <me-mark-b> anyone
#1221 [16:00] <NotiCon> why you want to send him a message?
#1222 [16:00] <me-mark-b> my mark_b account got stolen
#1223 [16:00] <me-mark-b> i dont ned his e-mail
#1224 [16:00] <NotiCon> support@mojang.com
#1225 [16:00] <me-mark-b> i need an e-mail or some sort to contact any of the mojang team
#1226 [16:01] <me-mark-b> ok thanks
#1227 [16:01] <Morrolan> Didn't you ask already? Anyway, the mail NotiCon gave you is the place to go. ;)
#1228 [16:01] <NotiCon> Morrolan: he did
#1229 [16:01] <me-mark-b> yeah
#1230 [16:01] <NotiCon> i looked up and found it
#1231 [16:01] <me-mark-b> :)
#1232 [16:03] <MrCrashdummy> I'm off guys
#1233 [16:03] <MrCrashdummy> Cheers
#1234 [16:03] <VoxelHead> Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers
#1235 [16:03] <Noobicious> Im off to , Cya all
#1236 [16:04] <MrCrashdummy> Ciao
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#1241 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> http://www.homedsgn.com/2011/04/10/safe-house-by-kwk-promes/
#1242 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Now that, is an awesome safe house. #zombiedefense
#1243 [16:14] <NotiCon> yup
#1244 [16:18] <Morrolan> So basically it's a normal house put into a giant concrete box?
#1245 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#1246 [16:18] <NotiCon> something like that
#1247 [16:18] <NotiCon> only one entrance aswell
#1248 [16:18] <NotiCon> which is on 2nd floor
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#1250 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Well, you can lock the entire thing down, and only have the drawbridge on the 2nd floor
#1251 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> But the whole house can open up
#1252 [16:19] <NotiCon> yup
#1253 [16:19] <Morrolan> When those walls are opened it doesn't look that ugly, but as long as it's closed it's not reallyn nice to look at. ^^
#1254 [16:20] <NotiCon> when its closed its just one huge brick
#1255 [16:20] <Morrolan> Yea.
#1256 [16:21] <xolotl> I think that guy's clients' money would have been better spent on therapy
#1257 [16:21] <NotiCon> nah
#1258 [16:21] <NotiCon> in case of zombies he wins
#1259 [16:21] <xolotl> NotiCon: I'd like to see how well all that works once the power grid's down
#1260 [16:21] <xolotl> NotiCon: They'll run out of gas eventually
#1261 [16:21] <xolotl> If we're talking zombie-scenario here
#1262 [16:21] <NotiCon> backup power?
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#1264 [16:22] <xolotl> But anyway, I'm thinking real life
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#1266 [16:22] <VoxelHead> I like them :o)
#1267 [16:22] <xolotl> All that stuff about "and no children can wander off into the street!" or whatever.
#1268 [16:22] <xolotl> Overprotective much?
#1269 [16:22] <VoxelHead> why the hell not
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#1271 [16:23] <xolotl> I guess overreactions in terms of "safety" just bother me in general. :)
#1272 [16:23] <NotiCon> ^ what VoxelHead said
#1273 [16:23] <Morrolan> Vox, do you have children?
#1274 [16:23] <VoxelHead> nein
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#1278 [16:25] <xolotl> NotiCon: I've got VoxelHead on /ignore
#1279 [16:25] <NotiCon> xolotl: poor you
#1280 [16:25] <NotiCon> i like what it writes
#1281 [16:25] <xolotl> NotiCon: I find it annoying in the extreme
#1282 [16:25] <xolotl> s/find/found/
#1283 [16:25] <xolotl> Doesn't bother me now that I can't see him. :)
#1284 [16:25] <NotiCon> well i dont mind it
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#1286 [16:28] <GiLGiJ> Haha! Great game!
#1287 [16:28] <GiLGiJ> Is anyone around?
#1288 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1289 [16:28] <GiLGiJ> :)
#1290 [16:28] <NotiCon> nop
#1291 [16:28] <VoxelHead> =]
#1292 [16:28] <oldtopman> no
#1293 [16:29] <oldtopman> ??>GILGiJ ask
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#1295 [16:29] <GiLGiJ> I'm having a Java issue running minecraft.exe
#1296 [16:29] <oldtopman> oops
#1297 [16:29] <GiLGiJ> it just crashes
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#1299 [16:29] <GiLGiJ> anyone see this?
#1300 [16:29] <oldtopman> Yeah.
#1301 [16:29] <GiLGiJ> <nod>
#1302 [16:29] <oldtopman> Are you running mcedit at the same time?
#1303 [16:30] <GiLGiJ> I've reinstalled Java which doesn't always help - the problem actually comes and goes.
#1304 [16:30] <GiLGiJ> No mcedit
#1305 [16:30] <Wug> run the following from the command line and pastebin error messages as needed:
#1306 [16:30] <Wug> java -jar minecraft.exe
#1307 [16:30] <GiLGiJ> a sec..
#1308 [16:30] <Shar> Does the mail from purchasing a giftcode take long time before it hits my inbox?
#1309 [16:31] <GiLGiJ> no help - Java platform SE Binary has stopped working
#1310 [16:32] <xales> Shar: it can take up to 24 hours
#1311 [16:32] <xales> ??> GiLGiJ win/reinst
#1312 [16:32] <VoxelHead> GiLGiJ: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1313 [16:32] <VoxelHead> GiLGiJ: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1314 [16:33] <Shar> Xales, after purchasing my giftcode I got the: "Purchase complete! Thank you for purchasing Minecraft! Your status should update within the hour." even though I already owned MineCraft from before, is that normal? haha
#1315 [16:33] <VoxelHead> inferior human organs!
#1316 [16:33] <GiLGiJ> That did it! I'm all teeth, thanks ppl.
#1317 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Shar - Try looking at your profile page on minecraft.net
#1318 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> If the transaction went through, you'll see your gift code there
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#1320 [16:33] <Shar> I already did, and there are no codes there <<
#1321 [16:34] <sammaelt> god i shouldnt have read earlier convo now im having the "never give you up" song yelling in my head :<
#1322 [16:34] <Shar> nvm
#1323 [16:34] <Shar> I got it, Im just to impatient
#1324 [16:34] <NotiCon> sammaelt: thats cause he is never gonna give you up
#1325 [16:34] <NotiCon> never gonna let you down
#1326 [16:34] <sammaelt> scary
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#1329 [16:43] <MertenNor> how do i set up a map on my server ?
#1330 [16:44] <xales> Do you mean copy one from singleplayer to it?
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#1332 [16:48] <MertenNor> no make a map that I can view from a website
#1333 [16:49] <Blackthorne> Has anyone noticed a problem with shadows and stairs?
#1334 [16:49] <Blackthorne> For some reason the top step is blacked out when I make stairs.
#1335 [16:49] <xolotl> Blackthorne: yeah, lots of folks
#1336 [16:49] <xolotl> Blackthorne: Right now the only fix is to turn on smooth lighting
#1337 [16:49] <Blackthorne> Damn.
#1338 [16:50] <xolotl> Blackthorne: Yeah, I know; I've hardly played 1.5 at all 'cause I don't like smooth lighting
#1339 [16:50] <xolotl> But then I realized I could probably just do some shortcuts to have my monitor brightness turn up when launching MC, and I probably wouldn't mind smoothlighting so much then
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#1341 [16:52] <firewire> Hey
#1342 [16:52] <xolotl> (well that plus I really haven't had any time for gaming at all)
#1343 [16:52] <firewire> Can someone help me please? I think i have found a bug
#1344 [16:53] <xolotl> firewire: We can only help if you ask a question
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#1346 [16:53] <firewire> Well i put 2 pressure pads together but 1 door opens and 1 closes
#1347 [16:54] <firewire> I cannot seem to get them to both open when stepped on
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#1349 [16:54] <firewire> I think it's because 1 pressure pad controls the other as well
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#1351 [16:54] <xolotl> firewire: You're trying to open a double-door with one pressure pad?
#1352 [16:55] <firewire> No
#1353 [16:55] <firewire> I am using 2 pressure pads with 2 doors
#1354 [16:55] <firewire> *double doors
#1355 [16:55] <firewire> next to each other
#1356 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> That's the issue. With double doors, one's default state is open
#1357 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> while the other is closed
#1358 [16:55] <xolotl> firewire: Doors interact a little oddly depending on various things
#1359 [16:55] <Morrolan> firewire: You'll need to do some redstonewiring to achieve what you want.
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#1361 [16:55] <xolotl> firewire: If you're fine with using just a single pressure pad that opens both, there's a real simple way to do it; sec
#1362 [16:56] <firewire> GreyVulpine is it a bug that needs fixing?
#1363 [16:56] <xolotl> firewire: Probably not; it's just sort of How Things Are
#1364 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> It's been like that since I've joined minecraft
#1365 [16:56] <firewire> Ah ok, sucks a bit
#1366 [16:56] <Morrolan> firewire: Check out this tutorial for instance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5g3JYSssnc&feature=player_embedded
#1367 [16:59] <xolotl> firewire: http://imgur.com/EIX79
#1368 [16:59] <firewire> Ok thanks
#1369 [16:59] <firewire> long way of doing it XD
#1370 [16:59] <xolotl> firewire: used a wooden pressure plate so that it's a bit more clear, but it only requires one redstone dust (or two if you have a plate on both sides) and one redstone torch
#1371 [16:59] <VoxelHead> Aw... i wanted to explode.
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#1373 [17:00] <firewire> Might give it a miss atm :p
#1374 [17:00] <firewire> Just found diamonds o.O
#1375 [17:00] <firewire> Only just started so still getting the hang of it
#1376 [17:00] <firewire> I am playing offline now, does playing online make that mch difference?
#1377 [17:01] <Keltinray> firewire, I do hope you brought your iron pickaxe
#1378 [17:01] <firewire> Yeh
#1379 [17:01] <firewire> First time i found it it just disappeared
#1380 [17:01] <firewire> so i thought hmm iron it must be :p
#1381 [17:01] <firewire> found gold and stuff as well
#1382 [17:01] <xolotl> firewire: Online is nice just to be able to play with friends
#1383 [17:02] <firewire> Can your offline transfer to online?
#1384 [17:02] <xolotl> firewire: No
#1385 [17:02] <Keltinray> you can copy the map with the stuff you built onto a minecraft-server if that's what you mean
#1386 [17:02] <xolotl> firewire: Or at least, not without munging with the data files directly
#1387 [17:02] <xolotl> (so, yes, if that's what you meant. :)
#1388 [17:02] <firewire> Ah ok :(
#1389 [17:03] <Keltinray> munging? Copying a folder from one place to another is "munging with the data files"? :p
#1390 [17:03] <xolotl> firewire: As Keltinray said, you can certainly start a new SMP server using your singleplayer world, and all your stuff will be there
#1391 [17:03] <firewire> SMP?
#1392 [17:03] <xolotl> firewire: You'd lose your inventory, but just make sure to shove it in a crate
#1393 [17:03] <xolotl> Keltinray: Well I had been thinking of inventory primarily, I guess. :) Or MCEditing singleplayer structures into a new SMP world.
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#1395 [17:04] <xolotl> firewire: SMP == Survival Multiplayer == Multiplayer
#1396 [17:04] <xolotl> ( == online)
#1397 [17:04] <firewire> So my friends can join my world?
#1398 [17:04] <xolotl> firewire: As opposed to SSP which is Survival Singleplayer which is what you're doing now
#1399 [17:04] <firewire> ok
#1400 [17:04] <Keltinray> If they have minecraft, and they can access your SMP server, yes.
#1401 [17:04] <xolotl> firewire: If you start a server, yes. You should be aware that running your own server isn't an entirely trivial thing, though, if you're not used to doing that sort of thing
#1402 [17:05] <firewire> I have run several servers before.
#1403 [17:05] <firewire> Just not minecraft
#1404 [17:05] <firewire> I guess i will start online
#1405 [17:05] <firewire> Offline is just good practise i guess
#1406 [17:06] <Keltinray> Offline is fine if you want a world only to yourself
#1407 [17:06] <xolotl> Personally, I like doing singleplayer with hostile mobs and SMP on Peaceful
#1408 [17:07] <xolotl> I still find fighting mobs in SMP to be painful, with even a tiny bit of lag
#1409 [17:07] <xolotl> Unless you have a bow, but I hate having to keep arrow stocks up. Damn gravel->flint conversion!
#1410 [17:07] <xolotl> s/mobs and/mobs, and/ <- clarity!
#1411 [17:07] <firewire> Hmm, it lags of my laptop now unless render is tiny
#1412 [17:07] <firewire> i am running 1.2 though
#1413 [17:07] <Keltinray> but isn't it great to sit there for hours punching the same block over and over in hopes that it will turn into flint? :D
#1414 [17:08] <sammaelt> but you can pick up your own arrows
#1415 [17:08] <Keltinray> Not if they're embedded in the stomach of a creeper :p
#1416 [17:08] <xolotl> sammaelt: Only if they've missed
#1417 [17:08] <NotiCon> also if they hit a block?
#1418 [17:08] <firewire> I was reading the patch notes and i believe 1.3 said performance was upgraded
#1419 [17:08] <sammaelt> oh yeah true
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#1421 [17:08] <sammaelt> if they hot a block you can pick it up
#1422 [17:08] <xolotl> Keltinray: Ah, many's a day I've spent down at the ol' gravel mines!
#1423 [17:08] <sammaelt> hit*
#1424 [17:09] <firewire> How much has it got better?
#1425 [17:09] <Keltinray> I actually sat there with one block of gravel, punching it over and over for like, 5 minutes
#1426 [17:09] <frozen> question-- every server i have tried to get on since getting 1.5 i have a incredible lag, like chat will be a minute late
#1427 [17:09] <frozen> or so
#1428 [17:09] <frozen> is that the server, or me?
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#1431 [17:10] <Morrolan> firewire: Some people say that they got like +20 fps
#1432 [17:10] <frozen> and where do I find help in that? rendering distance is set to minimal even though i dont like that
#1433 [17:10] <sammaelt> by the way, can you get flint out of a gravel block which is under another gravel block? it seems it never happened to me
#1434 [17:10] <xolotl> frozen: PM me with your minecraft username and you could try it on mine, if you like
#1435 [17:10] <PH0ENIX> frozen time for a new computer
#1436 [17:10] <firewire> Well i have 2GB ram 1.9Ghz and it lags and i am running v1.1.2_01
#1437 [17:10] <xolotl> frozen: (would have to whitelist you)
#1438 [17:10] <frozen> sent you, xolotl
#1439 [17:11] <NotiCon> 1.1.2_01? that seems classic?
#1440 [17:11] <PH0ENIX> then get a new computer firewire, i went up a good 15fps with the update, my buddy is rocking almost 200fps
#1441 [17:11] <sammaelt> maybe server
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#1443 [17:11] <firewire> Yeh found it online, i wanted to try before i buy
#1444 [17:11] <firewire> Because my lappy is crappy
#1445 [17:12] * GreyVulpine coughspiratedcoughs
#1445 [17:12] <sammaelt> oh ok
#1446 [17:12] <firewire> Minecraft.net isn't loading for me :/
#1447 [17:12] <sammaelt> booo
#1448 [17:12] <NotiCon> GreyVulpine: it would seems so
#1449 [17:12] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: That was clear as soon as he mentioned that he's still on 1.2 though. ;)
#1450 [17:13] <xales> firewire: It's not loading because you are playing a pirated version (illegal), which disables access to the site
#1451 [17:13] <sammaelt> indeed its not server: Minecraft_Server.exe?v=1304457133291
#1452 [17:13] <NotiCon> Morrolan: he said 1.1.2
#1453 [17:13] * GreyVulpine nods
#1453 [17:13] <Morrolan> <firewire> i am running 1.2 though
#1454 [17:13] <firewire> O
#1455 [17:13] <NotiCon> firewire> Well i have 2GB ram 1.9Ghz and it lags and i am running v1.1.2_01
#1456 [17:13] <Morrolan> Anyway. ;)
#1457 [17:13] <firewire> So if i buy it will it speed it up then?
#1458 [17:13] <VoxelHead> Mmm chaoticoz.
#1459 [17:14] <Morrolan> firewire: Well, some people said that 1.3 helped them a lot, others didn't gain anything at all.
#1460 [17:14] <Wug> lol coughspiratedcoughs
#1461 [17:14] <relsqui> didn't they do some optimization in 1.5 also?
#1462 [17:14] <Morrolan> You'll get updates though, if you buy it, so it's worth it. ;)
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#1464 [17:14] <sammaelt> it should speed it up, its taking at least 1gb of ram though
#1465 [17:14] <Wug> :D
#1466 [17:14] <VoxelHead> :)
#1467 [17:14] <Wug> vox, meet wugbot
#1468 [17:14] <Keltinray> I love how it eats a gig of ram, and then minecraft sits there and says "I'm currently using 200MB of ram!" in the debug-thingy
#1469 [17:14] <firewire> Maybe over time notch will optimize it more :p
#1470 [17:15] <NotiCon> WugBot: what are you?
#1471 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Oh god, ANOTHER bot?
#1472 [17:15] <Wug> wugbot, say to #minecrafthelp hello voxelhead!
#1473 [17:15] <WugBot> hello voxelhead!
#1474 [17:15] <VoxelHead> =)
#1475 [17:15] <xales> Keltinray: That's a problem with Java, not Minecraft.
#1476 [17:15] <NotiCon> a silly bot :(
#1477 [17:15] * GreyVulpine stabs Wug
#1477 [17:15] <Wug> its an experiment of mine
#1478 [17:15] <Keltinray> xales, didn't say it was either's fault
#1479 [17:15] <sammaelt> maybe it's talking about physical memory
#1480 [17:15] <Keltinray> I still find it facepalm
#1481 [17:15] <Morrolan> Watch out Wug, the last time he stabbed me I got kicked straight after. :D
#1482 [17:15] <Wug> it won't be here often
#1483 [17:15] <xales> s/often/ever/ #FTFY
#1484 [17:15] <NotiCon> you couldnt make another channel for it to play with?
#1485 [17:16] <Wug> well, it might be here sometimes, but in that case it will only be acting as a proxy for me
#1486 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Hey, I had good reason to Morrolan >.>
#1487 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Plus it was fun
#1488 [17:16] <Wug> ^
#1489 [17:16] <Morrolan> True. :D
#1490 [17:16] <NotiCon> its always fun to kick Morrolan ?
#1491 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1492 [17:16] <Morrolan> :(
#1493 [17:16] <Wug> xales, do -q wugbot
#1494 [17:16] <xales> Why?
#1495 [17:16] <Wug> I won't use it to spam
#1496 [17:16] <Wug> and nobody else can use it at all
#1497 [17:16] <xales> Ask GV
#1498 [17:17] <xales> ._.
#1499 [17:17] <Wug> you +q'd it
#1500 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Give me one good reason
#1501 [17:17] <sammaelt> what's the q mode?
#1502 [17:17] <Morrolan> muted
#1503 [17:17] <Wug> quiet, means it can
#1504 [17:17] <sammaelt> oh
#1505 [17:17] <Wug> 't talk
#1506 [17:17] <sammaelt> thank
#1507 [17:17] * Wug promises not to use it for spam
#1507 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> What does it currently do?
#1508 [17:18] <Wug> at this time, pretty much nothing
#1509 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1510 [17:18] <Wug> I can make it join/part, talk, and quit
#1511 [17:18] <Wug> it will have functionality later
#1512 [17:18] <Wug> (I wrote it from scratch like sunday night)
#1513 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Then we'll consider -q it later.
#1514 [17:19] <Wug> ok then
#1515 [17:19] <Wug> for the record, it does have its own channel
#1516 [17:19] <Morrolan> Wug: From scratch? Like, no IRC library used?
#1517 [17:19] <Wug> #wugnet is where I do all of my account coordination
#1518 [17:19] <Wug> no libraries, from scratch. stl only (it was c++. boy was figuring out sockets a load of fun)
#1519 [17:20] <firewire> Minecraft still isn't loading
#1520 [17:20] <Morrolan> firewire: What does it show?
#1521 [17:20] * Morrolan thinks modified hosts file
#1521 [17:20] <firewire> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.minecraft.net.
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#1523 [17:20] <firewire> Host file?
#1524 [17:20] <Morrolan> Nevermind then I guess.
#1525 [17:21] <firewire> ##Hosts file edit 127.0.0.1 www.minecraft.net 127.0.0.1 minecraft.net 127.0.0.1 194.28.157.42
#1526 [17:21] <Morrolan> Oh yea, this.
#1527 [17:21] <firewire> That's whats in it
#1528 [17:21] <firewire> :s
#1529 [17:21] <Morrolan> Might want to remove the file containing minecraft.net
#1530 [17:21] <Morrolan> It's cause of your, euhm, "special" minecraft edition.
#1531 [17:21] <sammaelt> yea i was going to say this
#1532 [17:21] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1532 [17:21] <firewire> Deleted the host file and it loads :/
#1533 [17:22] * Wug coughs too
#1533 [17:22] <NotiCon> YOU DID WHAT?!?
#1534 [17:22] <VoxelHead> :o
#1535 [17:22] <Wug> wugbot, leave #minecrafthelp
#1536 [17:22] * WugBot [WugBot@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1537 [17:22] <NotiCon> you just deleted a system file :(
#1538 [17:22] <NotiCon> you just killed a kitten
#1539 [17:22] <Morrolan> Deleting the lines containing minecraft.net would have been enough as well. ;)
#1540 [17:22] <firewire> I deleted the contents yeh
#1541 [17:22] <Wug> hosts isn't that important
#1542 [17:22] <Morrolan> But yea, you could do worse.
#1543 [17:22] <NotiCon> shh Wug
#1544 [17:22] <NotiCon> he still killed a kitten :(
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#1546 [17:23] <NotiCon> just ask aetherian
#1547 [17:23] <firewire> Now to actually buy minecraft
#1548 [17:23] <Wug> it was a lopsided retarded kitten
#1549 [17:23] <aetherian> wat
#1550 [17:23] <aetherian> ooh kittens
#1551 [17:23] <NotiCon> didnt firewire kill a kitten cause he deleted hosts?
#1552 [17:23] <Morrolan> Well, but he just gave birth to a new one because he bought minecraft. .)
#1553 [17:23] <Morrolan> :)*
#1554 [17:23] <Morrolan> And no, not in the 100% literal sense!
#1555 [17:23] <NotiCon> he havent bought it yet
#1556 [17:23] <firewire> XD
#1557 [17:24] <sammaelt> i got one peeing everywhere :(
#1558 [17:24] <firewire> Thank you for your payment
#1559 [17:24] <firewire> Now what do i do?
#1560 [17:24] <Morrolan> Wait a bit.
#1561 [17:24] <aetherian> every time someone asks about mods in here a nethack player eats a kitten :)
#1562 [17:25] <xolotl> aetherian: They're tasty, and full of protein!
#1563 [17:25] <Morrolan> After the payment has been processed you can download it from here: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1564 [17:25] <firewire> Ok
#1565 [17:25] <sammaelt> you can try the "!check firewire" command
#1566 [17:25] <firewire> !check iimpex
#1567 [17:25] <sammaelt> to get payment confirmation
#1568 [17:25] <xales> It's !paid
#1569 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> I think you mean !paid
#1570 [17:25] <sammaelt> oh sorry
#1571 [17:25] <sammaelt> paid yea
#1572 [17:25] <sammaelt> silly me
#1573 [17:26] <firewire> !paid iimpex
#1574 [17:26] <firewire> apparently not paid yet
#1575 [17:26] <Morrolan> Yea, can take up to a day if using PayPal.
#1576 [17:26] <firewire> :(
#1577 [17:26] <Morrolan> Normally it's some minutes though.
#1578 [17:26] <firewire> got school tomorrow anyway
#1579 [17:26] <firewire> for 2 hours XD
#1580 [17:26] <sammaelt> with a credit card it takes a few seconds
#1581 [17:26] <firewire> Then get some coding done
#1582 [17:27] <Morrolan> sammaelt: Actually I'm not even sure wheter the bottleneck is PayPal or Mojang.
#1583 [17:27] <sammaelt> my bank is telling me "Mojang" in the transations page
#1584 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> That's correct
#1585 [17:27] <firewire> Payment To Mojang AB
#1586 [17:28] <firewire> So i downloaded it, so is that the latest version or do i need to update?
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#1588 [17:28] <sammaelt> straight to sweden :P
#1589 [17:28] <Morrolan> Run the launcher, it'll update it for you.
#1590 [17:29] <firewire> ok i have run it
#1591 [17:29] <Morrolan> Now you'll have to enter your login details.
#1592 [17:29] <firewire> user not premium
#1593 [17:29] <sammaelt> gotta be patient :/
#1594 [17:30] <Morrolan> !paid iimpex
#1595 [17:30] <Morrolan> Strange, how could you download it even though the payment hasn't been processed yet. :/
#1596 [17:30] <firewire> It says in paypal completed
#1597 [17:30] <sammaelt> because he can log it on the site
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#1599 [17:30] <mib_miot6r> Hello guys, i purchase the game a few minute ago and the game tell me " User Not prenium" ? Should i wait ?
#1600 [17:30] <sammaelt> you can register only to play free classic
#1601 [17:31] <firewire> Logged in as iimpex | Log out
#1602 [17:31] <Morrolan> Oh, nevermind.
#1603 [17:31] <MrCrashdummy> You should whait yes
#1604 [17:31] <MrCrashdummy> *wait
#1605 [17:31] <Morrolan> I thought it won't show the launcher download if you haven't payed, but it does, sorry.
#1606 [17:31] <Morrolan> And mib, yes, you'll have to wait a bit.
#1607 [17:31] <Morrolan> It can take up to a day for the payment to arrive.
#1608 [17:31] <mib_miot6r> How much time about ?
#1609 [17:31] <mib_miot6r> okay =)
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#1611 [17:32] <Morrolan> Most likely it'll go faster though. :)
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#1613 [17:32] <Folklore> hello, who do I speak to , to get some help?
#1614 [17:32] <Morrolan> Depends on what you need.
#1615 [17:32] <MrCrashdummy> Ask your question
#1616 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> We've seen it take a few minutes, to a few hours for payment to go through
#1617 [17:32] <MrCrashdummy> We will try to anwser it
#1618 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Very rarely, will it take a day or more
#1619 [17:33] <Morrolan> We've even heard... that some payments NEVER arrived, these poor souls will have to stumble through the internet FOREVER!
#1620 [17:33] <Folklore> ah ok,
#1621 [17:33] <MrCrashdummy> Don't scare him!
#1622 [17:33] <sammaelt> lol
#1623 [17:33] <Morrolan> Sorry. :(
#1624 [17:34] <Folklore> But the confirmation email did not arrive either, is that normal?
#1625 [17:34] <Wug> so if I was to add useful features to wugbot what would they be?
#1626 [17:34] <MrCrashdummy> I didn't get a confirmation email at all.
#1627 [17:34] <Wug> aubot already has haspaid
#1628 [17:34] <Folklore> Normaly you should get it with your transaction ID
#1629 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Wug - The reason why there's bots in here, is because their creators came up with stuff the channel needed on their own.
#1630 [17:35] <Wug> i have a few ideas
#1631 [17:35] <Wug> im just checking if anyone else has any
#1632 [17:35] <MrCrashdummy> @Folklore I think you just have to wait it out
#1633 [17:35] <Wug> tis good practice and whatnot
#1634 [17:35] <Folklore> Ok :)
#1635 [17:35] <Folklore> well, it dosnt solve the problem, but thanks anyway for having tried :)
#1636 [17:36] <Folklore> Good night everybody ! :D
#1637 [17:36] <MrCrashdummy> @Folklore Nothing more we can do, I'm afraid
#1638 [17:36] <Morrolan> Night.
#1639 [17:36] <MrCrashdummy> Night
#1640 [17:36] <VoxelHead> bye Folklore
#1641 [17:36] <Morrolan> Vox, you're too slow.
#1642 [17:36] <frozen> would anyone kindly direct me to the location of the minecraft server folder? when I download it directly from the site, it just opens the porgram-- no config file, and not in %appdata%
#1643 [17:37] <Morrolan> frozen: It will automatically generate its files when you launch it.
#1644 [17:37] <Morrolan> In the same folder where it is.
#1645 [17:37] <MrCrashdummy> put it in a folder
#1646 [17:37] <frozen> where would it generate it? oh
#1647 [17:37] <frozen> ok
#1648 [17:37] <frozen> thanks
#1649 [17:37] <Morrolan> So most likely they're on your desktop or download folder now. :p
#1650 [17:37] <frozen> download folder, yes lol
#1651 [17:37] <frozen> thanks
#1652 [17:37] <MrCrashdummy> put it in a folder, for instance ''server'' and then run it.
#1653 [17:38] <MrCrashdummy> My battery is running quite low, I will be going in 10
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#1656 [17:42] <sammaelt> you're waiting for it to shut down the computer brutally? aint that harmfull?
#1657 [17:43] <oldtopman> WOO!
#1658 [17:43] <VoxelHead> yay... i'm gonna be sick
#1659 [17:43] <sammaelt> or maybe there's a protection that shut down the computer the good way a few seconds before on laptops?
#1660 [17:43] <oldtopman> Dude. CRASH FTW!!
#1661 [17:43] <NotiCon> aww VoxelHead sad to hear that :(
#1662 [17:43] <Morrolan> Vox, want some tea?
#1663 [17:44] <VoxelHead> more fun tha bucket of redhat
#1664 [17:44] <NotiCon> that be a yes
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#1666 [17:45] <Jackson413> hey I got a question about seeds: is there anyway to calculate one?
#1667 [17:45] <NotiCon> just put in random numbers
#1668 [17:45] <xolotl> Jackson413: calculate one?
#1669 [17:45] <xolotl> Jackson413: Or just leave it blank; Minecraft will just pick one at random
#1670 [17:46] <Jackson413> like is there anyway to determine what numbers do what?
#1671 [17:46] <xolotl> I really wish Mojang had buried the seed selection in some kind of "advanced" tab or something
#1672 [17:46] <NotiCon> xolotl: awesome
#1673 [17:46] <sammaelt> you need to open your level.dat file to find the seed of your world if you left it to random
#1674 [17:46] <sammaelt> if that's what you meant
#1675 [17:47] <Morrolan> Jackson: Noe, you can't.
#1676 [17:47] <Morrolan> No*
#1677 [17:47] <sammaelt> xolotl: why?
#1678 [17:47] <Morrolan> There is no way of telling which seed does what. 12345 will generate a completely different world than 12346
#1679 [17:47] <xolotl> sammaelt: Because of all the people we get asking about it in here who clearly don't really understand what it does
#1680 [17:47] <Morrolan> ^
#1681 [17:47] <Morrolan> (No offense ;) )
#1682 [17:48] <xolotl> sammaelt: And would be just as happy letting it be randomly-picked like it always had been, before there was a text box
#1683 [17:48] <xolotl> Don't get me wrong, I love that we can easily inject seeds into a new world. After having been in here for awhile I'd just prefer to have it hidden away somewhere. :)
#1684 [17:49] <sammaelt> i hear ya
#1685 [17:49] <Wug> there should be something that stores them automatically
#1686 [17:49] <Wug> corrupted worlds happen so often
#1687 [17:50] <Wug> they should be stored inside each chunk in singleplayer worlds
#1688 [17:50] <Wug> and nulled out for downloaded chunks
#1689 [17:51] <xolotl> Wug: Downloaded chunks?
#1690 [17:51] <Wug> like smp stuff
#1691 [17:51] <sammaelt> i always put a seed with a real word or name, and name my world the same way, this way i always know the seed of each of my worlds
#1692 [17:52] <xolotl> Wug: The client doesn't store SMP chunks on-disk anywhere
#1693 [17:52] <Wug> there is some concern over whether or not the seed should be sent over multiplayer worlds
#1694 [17:52] <Wug> you can still capture the world with a modded client
#1695 [17:53] <Wug> and the seed is sent, in the first packet.
#1696 [17:53] <xolotl> Yes, I am aware of that. :)
#1697 [17:54] <frozen> anyone have any suggestion to help my situation? joining other servers I get lag, like actions takes 20-40 seconds to complete (including chat), and while testing a hypothesis joining my own server lags. Any suggestion or fixes?
#1698 [17:55] <Wug> you have a common problem
#1699 [17:55] <Wug> are you on wireless?
#1700 [17:55] <frozen> nope
#1701 [17:55] <frozen> direct wired
#1702 [17:55] <oldtopman> frozen: #1 Find a localer server #2 server and client cause lag when on teh same computer
#1703 [17:55] <Wug> 2 is not true
#1704 [17:55] <frozen> I tested with a server here (xolotl's) and still lags even if im on thre alone
#1705 [17:56] <xolotl> frozen *did* connect to my SMP server, and there was negligible network traffic
#1706 [17:56] <xolotl> It did spike up near my uplink limit once but was minimal otherwise
#1707 [17:56] <xales> frozen: Does it lag in singleplayer?
#1708 [17:56] <frozen> I used to connect in 1.3, no problem
#1709 [17:56] <frozen> and no, no lag in SP
#1710 [17:56] <frozen> i jumped directly from 1.3 to 1.5 and expericing this problem
#1711 [17:57] <Wug> I've never had issues connecting on a local network, even on my pos-top which can barely even run the server without having 'server time change blah blah blah'
#1712 [17:57] <frozen> I AM having that
#1713 [17:57] <Wug> uuh
#1714 [17:57] <frozen> on my local server
#1715 [17:57] <frozen> not constant
#1716 [17:57] <frozen> but it s there
#1717 [17:57] <Wug> older computer?
#1718 [17:57] <frozen> no, 2.01 ghz, 2gb ram
#1719 [17:57] <Wug> thats plenty old
#1720 [17:57] <frozen> well yes its "older" but not anicent
#1721 [17:58] <Wug> that in itself is unrelated to the lag
#1722 [17:58] <frozen> yea
#1723 [17:58] <Wug> lots of research has been done, but nobody's really sure what causes it
#1724 [17:58] <xolotl> (which would be plenty specs on a Linux host, at least; I'd think Windows would be able to cope with that as well but I have no experience with that)
#1725 [17:58] <frozen> its windows after all xolotl lol
#1726 [17:58] <Wug> my windows laptop with lesser specs can run client and server for a while
#1727 [17:59] <frozen> ok
#1728 [17:59] <Wug> I don't get lag either
#1729 [17:59] <frozen> i think its client side though
#1730 [17:59] <frozen> i just did something
#1731 [17:59] <frozen> in client, i typed in Test in chat
#1732 [17:59] <xales> xolotl: http://xales.info/~xales/cpu.txt :3
#1733 [17:59] <Wug> do me a favor and download wireshark
#1734 [17:59] <frozen> in server side, I get it quick
#1735 [17:59] <Wug> ?? wireshark
#1736 [17:59] <frozen> but on client, it takes a while to show up
#1737 [17:59] <frozen> going to get wireshark
#1738 [18:00] <xales> That's probably client lag then
#1739 [18:00] <Wug> dopeghoti
#1740 [18:00] <frozen> any suggestion regarding it
#1741 [18:00] <Wug> connect to a remote (it won't catch any packets if you connect to a local) server and tell me if you're getting like multiple thousand packets per second
#1742 [18:02] <frozen> ok
#1743 [18:05] <frozen> hrm
#1744 [18:06] <frozen> wish MC added connection history
#1745 [18:06] <frozen> finding a remote, hold
#1746 [18:07] <Wug> use 129.21.137.252
#1747 [18:07] <Wug> if you can't find one frozen
#1748 [18:09] <frozen> eh
#1749 [18:09] <frozen> wug
#1750 [18:09] <frozen> yeah, over 500 in the 5 seconds
#1751 [18:09] <Wug> thats not too unusua;
#1752 [18:09] <frozen> yeah
#1753 [18:09] <sammaelt> http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers
#1754 [18:09] <Wug> you are getting chat lag, right?
#1755 [18:09] <frozen> anything i should keep
#1756 [18:09] <Wug> doesn't seem that way
#1757 [18:09] <frozen> and sometimes when I break blocks, it disappears for a few sconds, appears, then disappears
#1758 [18:10] <Wug> I had a lag issue at one point, I was getting about 1500 packets/s over the connection
#1759 [18:10] <Wug> most of them were just acks
#1760 [18:10] <Wug> with no payload
#1761 [18:11] <frozen> I see alot of TCP ZeroWindow
#1762 [18:11] <frozen> not sure what that is but its colored in a way it could be interpreted as a evil thing lol
#1763 [18:11] <Wug> hmm
#1764 [18:11] <Wug> can you send the capture file to me?
#1765 [18:12] <Wug> that might possibly have something to do with it
#1766 [18:12] <frozen> ok
#1767 [18:12] <frozen> um
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#1775 [18:54] <Wug> bbl
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#1781 [19:09] <Vhozard> hai guys
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#1784 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> Wug: done
#1785 [19:17] <Wug> ?? wireshark
#1786 [19:17] <VoxelHead> wireshark: Wireshark is a network traffic analysis program which may be helpful in troubleshooting problems with SMP server or client connections.
#1787 [19:17] <VoxelHead> wireshark: It can be obtained at http://www.wireshark.org
#1788 [19:17] <Wug> awesom
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#1790 [19:23] <Vhozard> so I got this shitload of plugins
#1791 [19:23] <Vhozard> all work, except when I try to load a plugin that depends on iConomy
#1792 [19:23] <Vhozard> (using craftbukkit)
#1793 [19:23] <Vhozard> it gives me a:
#1794 [19:23] <Vhozard> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/nijiko/coelho/iConomy/iConomy
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#1796 [19:26] <Vhozard> anyone has an idea ?
#1797 [19:26] <Vhozard> I got the latest version
#1798 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> You'll get better help in #bukkit
#1799 [19:26] <Vhozard> ok
#1800 [19:35] <Vhozard> hmm
#1801 [19:35] <Vhozard> Anyone in here knows how to change plugin loading order ?
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#1803 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Not many of us here are familiar with/use bukkit
#1804 [19:37] <Vhozard> guys in #bukkit neither
#1805 [19:37] <Vhozard> haha
#1806 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> from what little I know about Java, it looks like a typo somwehere that should be dots rather than strokes
#1807 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Nah, that's a rather standard error message for java
#1808 [19:37] <Vhozard> yeah
#1809 [19:38] <Vhozard> it basically says that plugin y cant find shit from plugin X
#1810 [19:38] <Vhozard> because plugin X isnt loaded yet
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#1812 [19:38] <Mly> Hello. I'm trying to buy Minecraft, and it's been stuck on the page that says "Verifying" for at least an hour. What do I do?
#1813 [19:39] <Mly> Hello?
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#1815 [19:39] <Vhozard> Buy it again
#1816 [19:39] <Vhozard> ;)
#1817 [19:40] * VoxelHead is back
#1817 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Quit out, make sure your account hasn't been charged, try paypal
#1818 [19:40] <dolseni> i've seen screenshots of servers with minimaps and such. Are these mods client/side or serverside? I'm having trouble finding anything that is strictly client-side
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#1820 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> minimaps are client-side
#1821 [19:40] <Vhozard> Mly, what he said :)
#1822 [19:40] <VoxelHead> mmm desparil
#1823 [19:40] <Mly> Okay. Thanks.
#1824 [19:40] <dolseni> know where I can find a list of the client-side maps?
#1825 [19:40] <dolseni> err mods
#1826 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> dolseni - Use: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1039&t=322883
#1827 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Most, if not all of those mods should be SP
#1828 [19:42] <dolseni> which is exactly what i'm not looking for
#1829 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> You said you're looking for client-side mods...
#1830 [19:43] <dolseni> client-side mods that work on smp
#1831 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Some of those do work on SMP
#1832 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Minimap is one such example
#1833 [19:43] <dolseni> know of a list that is purely smp related?
#1834 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Many client-side mods are SP only, only a few can be used in SP/SMP
#1835 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> They're more the exception than the rule
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#1837 [19:44] <Mly> Also, what is a CVC code? I don't know where that is on the card.
#1838 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> CVC code is the 3/4 digit code on the back of the card
#1839 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Usually to the right of the signature line
#1840 [19:45] <Mly> Okay. Then I entered the right thing the first time.
#1841 [19:48] <dolseni> so the minimap works on smp servers, not finding any others
#1842 [19:48] <dolseni> just looking for things that improve the functionality of the game. not game-breaking stuff
#1843 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Really, the only two I'm aware of, are the minimap one, and the fly-mod.
#1844 [19:49] <dolseni> don't care about the fly-mod
#1845 [19:49] <Mly> How long does it typically take to verify?
#1846 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Mly - Usually doesn't take that long
#1847 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> dolseni - What exactly are you looking for?
#1848 [19:50] <Mly> Define "that long."
#1849 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Mly - Usually immediate, seconds.
#1850 [19:51] <Mly> Hm.
#1851 [19:51] <Mly> I'm using a Walmart MoneyCard under Visa. Could that be the problem?
#1852 [19:51] <dolseni> thats just it, greyvulpine, i'm not sure whats available in smp (client side)
#1853 [19:51] <VoxelHead> eek, not Walmart
#1854 [19:52] <dolseni> like, an improved chat would be nice
#1855 [19:52] <dolseni> minimap wo uld be nice, but i know thats available now
#1856 [19:52] <dolseni> um lets see
#1857 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> dolseni - Beyond custom texture packs, a texture patcher that gives higher-def texture packs/skins, there's not really much client-side you can do
#1858 [19:53] <dolseni> a way to bind additional keys
#1859 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> dolseni - Like a macro program?
#1860 [19:53] <dolseni> like set it up so if i hit a key it inputs a certain command in game
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#1862 [19:53] <dolseni> yeah, i suppose
#1863 [19:53] <Vhozard> how can I install the higher def tex packs ?
#1864 [19:53] <dolseni> since a lot of the shop mods are text based, gets really anoying
#1865 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Alright, that's a utility you can use dolseni
#1866 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Go here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_editors
#1867 [19:54] <dolseni> to type '/shop list buy' and stuff
#1868 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Look for "Minecraft QuickTyper "
#1869 [19:55] <Mly> *copypaste* I'm using a Walmart MoneyCard under Visa. Could that be the problem?
#1870 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Vhozard - Look up here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=252531
#1871 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Mly - It could be possible, some prepaid cards are known to cause issues.
#1872 [19:55] <Mly> Hm. What if I registered the card through paypal and did it there? I think it said I could do that.
#1873 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> That might work
#1874 [19:56] <Vhozard> damn
#1875 [19:56] <Mly> Okay. I'll try that, then.
#1876 [19:56] <Vhozard> there are really THAT many tex packs
#1877 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Vhozard - There are a TON of texture packs
#1878 [19:56] <Vhozard> yeah, indeed
#1879 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> I mean, check out this list alone
#1880 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=12352
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#1882 [19:57] <Vhozard> I just did
#1883 [19:57] <Vhozard> :P
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#1885 [20:13] <bokaholic> So.. Server looks as if it's working perfect but wont connect..?
#1886 [20:13] <LordTrevor> did you forward the ports?
#1887 [20:14] <bokaholic> Uhm. Why would any port have suddenly closed? o.o
#1888 [20:14] <bokaholic> It's been working for months
#1889 [20:14] <LordTrevor> I didnt know this
#1890 [20:14] <LordTrevor> Hrmm have you tried restarting it?
#1891 [20:14] <bokaholic> Yeah. Tried restarting the exe.
#1892 [20:15] <bokaholic> I'll restart the computer.
#1893 [20:15] <LordTrevor> Has anything changed since the last tim it worked?
#1894 [20:15] <LordTrevor> time*
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#1896 [20:20] <bokaholic> No.. We've been at work. lol
#1897 [20:21] <bokaholic> Says 'connecting to the server..' then after a few minutes says 'connection timed out'
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#1899 [20:22] <LordTrevor> Have you tried reseting the router?
#1900 [20:22] <VoxelHead> take one little step left
#1901 [20:24] <bokaholic> Hmm. No.. I'm not thinking that'll work..
#1902 [20:24] * bokaholic pokes Kealper.
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#1903 [20:30] <bokaholic> It's just weird. it's jumping open just fine.. Loading up like it does every time I load it..
#1904 [20:31] <bokaholic> No errors, anything different.
#1905 [20:31] <bokaholic> It's just not connecting..
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#1907 [20:32] <linarish> Hmm.
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#1909 [20:33] <linarish> Can..
#1910 [20:34] <linarish> Anyone help m on my sever?
#1911 [20:34] <bokaholic> Oh, there we go.
#1912 [20:34] <linarish> K nevermind..
#1913 [20:34] <linarish> Or wait.
#1914 [20:34] <bokaholic> my dyndns address isn't working correctly.
#1915 [20:34] <linarish> My everythings working.
#1916 [20:34] <linarish> Its just.
#1917 [20:34] <linarish> I can't connect.
#1918 [20:35] <linarish> I start my Sever and I put in my external IP and It says I can't connect, I even add the port to the end which is 25565.
#1919 [20:40] <LordTrevor> linarish: have you forwarded the ports?
#1920 [20:40] <[z]> Use your local address
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#1922 [20:44] <linarish> ..
#1923 [20:44] <linarish> Can I have help?
#1924 [20:44] <oldtopman> ??> linarish ask
#1925 [20:44] <VoxelHead> linarish: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1926 [20:44] <VoxelHead> linarish: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1927 [20:45] <linarish> Well, can I ask if anyone knows the problem with my Sever?
#1928 [20:45] <[z]> Use your local address
#1929 [20:45] <oldtopman> Yeah, I saw.
#1930 [20:45] <linarish> I was playing a custom sever, and after me and my friend had beat it it wouldn't connect anymore.
#1931 [20:45] <oldtopman> 0.0
#1932 [20:45] <linarish> Why do you want me to use my local address?
#1933 [20:45] <[z]> Your.. "sever"?
#1934 [20:45] <dolseni> GreyVulpine: for future reference, this is basically everything I was looking for http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=131580 read the 'improved chat' section
#1935 [20:46] <frozen> sigh
#1936 [20:46] <dolseni> it looks amazing to me, just improves the functionality of the chat and allows you to bind keys
#1937 [20:46] <frozen> here again, im on a server
#1938 [20:46] <[z]> If you are trying to connect to your local server, use your local address, not your external one...
#1939 [20:46] <frozen> and its getting to my nerves
#1940 [20:46] <oldtopman> linarish: WHat did you change after that?
#1941 [20:46] <frozen> does anyone have any idea how to handle client-side lag?
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#1943 [20:46] <oldtopman> frozen: Do you have any mods installed?
#1944 [20:46] <frozen> 2ghz, 2 gb computer
#1945 [20:46] <[z]> reduce draw distance?
#1946 [20:46] <frozen> vanilla 1.5
#1947 [20:46] <frozen> it worked fine before
#1948 [20:46] <frozen> [z] minimal but this worked flawlessly in 1.3
#1949 [20:47] <[z]> Change the setting of advanced opengl
#1950 [20:47] <frozen> its on off
#1951 [20:47] <[z]> Try on then
#1952 [20:47] <frozen> nope
#1953 [20:47] <frozen> for example
#1954 [20:47] <gkx> Hey, guys. I just updated ubuntu to Natty Narwhal (the OS isn't functioning flawlessly, but all applications appear fine, except for Minecraft), and I'm getting a really funky error message within the minecraft client.
#1955 [20:47] <frozen> i type in test in talk
#1956 [20:48] <frozen> and it wont show up for a good minute
#1957 [20:48] <linarish> We didn't change anything.
#1958 [20:48] <[z]> Erm.. There isn't any talk in single player?
#1959 [20:48] <oldtopman> gkx: Try #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
#1960 [20:48] <linarish> Nope?..
#1961 [20:48] <oldtopman> linarish: did you have any mods?
#1962 [20:48] <linarish> No, we did not have any mods.
#1963 [20:48] <[z]> linarish: Did you try my suggestion?
#1964 [20:48] <linarish> My connection screwed up and then on its been doing this.
#1965 [20:48] <gkx> oldtopman: I'm working on ubuntu separately. Everything is working flawlessly except Minecraft.
#1966 [20:49] <oldtopman> gkx: Thats my point
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#1968 [20:49] <LordTrevor> oldtopman: I seriously doubt ubuntu is his problem
#1969 [20:49] <gkx> oldtopman: It's a java error message. Minecraft itself starts up, but the game is having problems running
#1970 [20:49] <linarish> Yes, I put in my local adress.
#1971 [20:50] <linarish> Is that my IP/
#1972 [20:50] <LordTrevor> are you using oracle java or that open source bullshit?
#1973 [20:50] <[z]> If server is on same PC as client, 127.0.0.1
#1974 [20:50] <linarish> Me?
#1975 [20:50] <LordTrevor> no
#1976 [20:50] <oldtopman> LordTrrevor: Ubuntu likely broke java after the update. Ubuntu tends to do that IMO.
#1977 [20:51] <LordTrevor> install oracle(may possibly still be called sun in the package lists) java
#1978 [20:51] <linarish> I know that.
#1979 [20:51] <LordTrevor> I feel sad that sun java is oracle java now :(
#1980 [20:51] <linarish> But, I want my custom map to load.
#1981 [20:51] <linarish> I can connect, and I can use the map on my sever starter.
#1982 [20:51] <linarish> But, no one else can connect.
#1983 [20:51] <[z]> *server
#1984 [20:52] <[z]> A minute ago you said you couldn't connect
#1985 [20:52] <linarish> Yes.
#1986 [20:52] <linarish> I couldn't connect unless I did some stuff.
#1987 [20:52] <gkx> LordTrevor: Were you talking to me when telling me to get java?
#1988 [20:52] <[z]> And, just rename the world folder and put the other world folder there instead
#1989 [20:52] <linarish> But then it was only me.
#1990 [20:52] <VoxelHead> Who knows.
#1991 [20:52] <oldtopman> VoxelHead: ikr
#1992 [20:52] <LordTrevor> gkx: was talking to oldtopman
#1993 [20:53] <linarish> Sigh..
#1994 [20:53] <gkx> LordTrevor: Alright, thanks, sorry. :P
#1995 [20:53] <linarish> Nope that didn't work.
#1996 [20:54] <linarish> I only have one map so.
#1997 [20:54] <LordTrevor> voxelhead is a bot btw
#1998 [20:54] <[z]> You only have one map.. And it's not the map you want..?
#1999 [20:54] <linarish> ..
#2000 [20:54] <linarish> Its the map I HAVE.
#2001 [20:54] <linarish> And.
#2002 [20:54] <linarish> I know it is THAT map.
#2003 [20:54] <linarish> Because.
#2004 [20:54] <linarish> I've played it on Single.
#2005 [20:54] <oldtopman> LordTrevor: I know that, but its fin talking to him anyway.
#2006 [20:54] <linarish> It won't load in multiplayer.
#2007 [20:54] <LordTrevor> ah
#2008 [20:55] <[z]> So, rename world folder in server folder, copy world folder from .minecraft/saves
#2009 [20:55] <linarish> .. What do you think I did?
#2010 [20:56] <[z]> Something else, if it didn't work..
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#2012 [20:57] <linarish> z.
#2013 [20:57] <linarish> Allow me to hug you.
#2014 [20:57] <linarish> Now, I need to see if my friend can connect.
#2015 [20:57] * linarish Anime hugs Z
#2015 [20:57] <[z]> Heh
#2016 [20:57] <VoxelHead> ;)
#2017 [20:57] <linarish> Creeper face.
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#2019 [20:58] <Desparil> hi do animals disappear if trapped ?
#2020 [20:58] <linarish> Yes.
#2021 [20:58] <linarish> THey despawn.
#2022 [20:59] <linarish> But Z.
#2023 [20:59] <linarish> How does my friend connect then?
#2024 [20:59] <LordTrevor> VoxelHead hello
#2025 [20:59] <VoxelHead> VoxelHead hello... Vello
#2026 [20:59] <[z]> Your external I{
#2027 [20:59] <[z]> *IP
#2028 [20:59] <linarish> .
#2029 [20:59] <linarish> K.
#2030 [20:59] <linarish> I told him it.
#2031 [21:00] <linarish> Now it isn't connecting for him.
#2032 [21:00] <linarish> does he have to add :25565 to the end?
#2033 [21:00] <[z]> No
#2034 [21:00] <[z]> Port forwarding not right, probably
#2035 [21:01] <linarish> Hmm.
#2036 [21:01] <linarish> This makes no sense.
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#2040 [21:04] <frozen> [z]: this is a mp problem. Same prblem on every server, and had verification that the outgoing speds of server is fine. its client-side lag
#2041 [21:07] <[z]> Strange
#2042 [21:07] <[z]> No lag for other players?
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#2044 [21:08] <frozen> none
#2045 [21:08] <frozen> it s all me
#2046 [21:09] <frozen> SP works as it should
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#2051 [21:13] <thedude> need some good help some one there?
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#2053 [21:19] <thedude> anyone there too help
#2054 [21:19] <frozen> just forwarded all ports thru the firewall
#2055 [21:19] <frozen> thinking it was the problem
#2056 [21:19] <frozen> nope
#2057 [21:19] <frozen> same result, still laggy
#2058 [21:22] <frozen> whats that program that shows network speeds on mc itself?
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#2060 [21:30] <thedude> everyone still afk?
#2061 [21:30] <VoxelHead> over there
#2062 [21:30] <thedude> hey vox
#2063 [21:30] <VoxelHead> =)
#2064 [21:31] <thedude> can you help me
#2065 [21:31] <thedude> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 5/3/11 8:15 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.5_01 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.6.
#2066 [21:32] <thedude> voxelhead
#2067 [21:32] <LordTrevor> Upgrade your video card drivers
#2068 [21:33] <LordTrevor> oh hey it says it in the error report
#2069 [21:33] <thedude> i beentrying for like the past 6 days ...
#2070 [21:33] <thedude> not working can you help me with it with tv
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#2072 [21:33] <LordTrevor> Are you using onboard graphics?
#2073 [21:34] <thedude> no idea its an old comp
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#2075 [21:34] <LordTrevor> How old?
#2076 [21:34] <thedude> like toshiba running windows xp less then a gig of ram
#2077 [21:34] <LordTrevor> It could be that there are no open gl drivers for your laptop.
#2078 [21:35] <LordTrevor> Install ubuntu, although minecrafy will be a pain on less than a gig of ram
#2079 [21:35] <thedude> well i got this game booster software and it shows you like all you divers that are out dated
#2080 [21:35] <relsqui> thedude: do you have some reason to believe minecraft will run on that at all? :P
#2081 [21:35] <thedude> it will even bring you to the site to download them but
#2082 [21:35] <LordTrevor> and your probably gonna have to use custum memory parameters
#2083 [21:35] <LordTrevor> custom*
#2084 [21:35] <thedude> i tryed both the zip and the exe and they dont work
#2085 [21:36] <thedude> yes
#2086 [21:36] <LordTrevor> Its gonna gonna suck.
#2087 [21:36] <LordTrevor> Your gonna be playing on short and its still gonna run kind of slow.
#2088 [21:37] <thedude> iknow thats why i plan to only really play single player
#2089 [21:37] <thedude> can you link me to it or con you tv it
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#2091 [21:38] <LordTrevor> link you to what?
#2092 [21:38] <thedude> ubuntu
#2093 [21:39] <LordTrevor> Oh god whatve I done....
#2094 [21:39] <thedude> what?
#2095 [21:39] <LordTrevor> Ehm, do you have a flash drive
#2096 [21:39] <LordTrevor> or a cd burner?
#2097 [21:39] <thedude> yea
#2098 [21:40] <thedude> got like a 4 gig flash d
#2099 [21:40] <LordTrevor> ok let me go get a link for the easiest way
#2100 [21:40] <thedude> tv would be better if you dont mine
#2101 [21:40] <LordTrevor> tv?
#2102 [21:40] <thedude> because its not on this comp
#2103 [21:40] <VoxelHead> ask jeeves, he is smarter than average VoxelHead
#2104 [21:40] <thedude> teamveiwer
#2105 [21:41] <LordTrevor> ubuntu is another operating system
#2106 [21:41] <LordTrevor> it replaces windows
#2107 [21:41] <thedude> wait i cant loose the info on this comp
#2108 [21:41] <LordTrevor> yah
#2109 [21:42] <thedude> so you have no other way?
#2110 [21:42] <thedude> voelhead whos jeeves?
#2111 [21:42] <VoxelHead> www.google.com
#2112 [21:43] <LordTrevor> There are ways to resize ntfs partitions but thats...advaanced
#2113 [21:43] <thedude> ntfs?
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#2115 [21:43] <LordTrevor> you could dual boot it but go to a #linux or #ubuntu channel for that(on another irc network)
#2116 [21:44] <LordTrevor> I dont trust in my ability to walk you through the process
#2117 [21:45] <thedude> well are you familar with tv
#2118 [21:45] <LordTrevor> windows will have to be off during the process
#2119 [21:45] <LordTrevor> during most of it in fact
#2120 [21:47] <thedude> canyou at least take a look at the driver for me and maby point me in a better direction
#2121 [21:49] <LordTrevor> !msg thedude your moms still a potatoe though.
#2122 [21:49] <LordTrevor> ?
#2123 [21:49] <LordTrevor> donfound these ponies
#2124 [21:49] <LordTrevor> they drive me to insomnia
#2125 [21:50] <thedude> voxelhead
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#2132 [21:59] <Sockem_tremmer> i need help: in minecraft, whenever i click, my menu pops up. i use ubuntu, my and my browser is firefox
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#2135 [22:02] <Sockem_tremmer> helloe?
#2136 [22:03] <oldtopman> Hellow.
#2137 [22:03] <Sockem_tremmer> can u help?
#2138 [22:03] <oldtopman> Have you tried the downloadable client?
#2139 [22:03] <VoxelHead> no.
#2140 [22:03] <oldtopman> stfu vox
#2141 [22:04] <Sockem_tremmer> i tried using minecraft.jar, but java 6 runtime says: couldn't fine cautious--launcher\
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#2143 [22:04] <LordTrevor> I lol'd so hard
#2144 [22:04] <oldtopman> Sockem_tremmer: Have you tried the downloadable client?
#2145 [22:04] <LordTrevor> I love voxelhead
#2146 [22:04] <VoxelHead> hehe, want to go out on a date someplace? :)
#2147 [22:04] <LordTrevor> Sure, pick me up at seven?
#2148 [22:05] <LordTrevor> awww
#2149 [22:05] <Sockem_tremmer> i'll try googling the WoM client?
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#2152 [22:08] <Sockem_tremmer> trevor and vox are a match: GAYWAD JERKS
#2153 [22:08] <Sockem_tremmer> haha
#2154 [22:08] <VoxelHead> the dogs! they're after my meat body of juicy bologna meats.
#2155 [22:08] <Sockem_tremmer> :D
#2156 [22:10] <relsqui> Sockem_tremmer: gay people are cooler than you are.
#2157 [22:10] <relsqui> on average, anyway
#2158 [22:10] <Sockem_tremmer> oh and couples LOVE to play minecraft together ;D
#2159 [22:10] <Sockem_tremmer> ;)
#2160 [22:11] <Sockem_tremmer> *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*
#2161 [22:11] <Captain-Lightning> I'd like to play minecraft with my cat.
#2162 [22:11] <Captain-Lightning> I have a feeling it would just wander around
#2163 [22:11] <Captain-Lightning> punching trees
#2164 [22:11] <Captain-Lightning> forever
#2165 [22:11] <VoxelHead> Punching trees... pees.
#2166 [22:11] <Sockem_tremmer> 12 year olds, *sigh*
#2167 [22:11] <relsqui> Sockem_tremmer: says the guy who just called someone a gaywad
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#2169 [22:12] <relsqui> you're not doing much for your credibility by implying you're older than 12
#2170 [22:12] <relsqui> asshole.
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#2172 [22:15] <frozen> is it possible that this lag issue client-side only is related to squids?
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#2174 [22:15] <frozen> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=244333&start=450
#2175 [22:15] <OMGbot> Title: Mysterious lag problem! (Read before posting about lag!) - Minecraft Forums (at http://www.minecraftforum.net)
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#2182 [22:29] <Ghil> hey, I need a wee bit of help: in SMP, I'm trying to make a destination selector by using a XOR gate with three destinations. it keeps inverting the tracks, and when I brake them to correct it, it just stops working.
#2183 [22:30] <Ghil> *break
#2184 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Redstone circuits do have a tendancy to break in SMP for no reason whatsoever. It's been like this since 1.3
#2185 [22:35] <VoxelHead> I like them ;)
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#2195 [23:27] <LordTrevor> Ill bet you do
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#2201 [23:47] <LordTrevor> !up minecraft.net
#2202 [23:47] <GreyBot> LordTrevor: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#2203 [23:47] <LordTrevor> !up e621.net
#2204 [23:47] <GreyBot> LordTrevor: It's not just you! http://e621.net looks down from here.
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#2206 [23:53] <Wug> LOL E621
#2207 [23:54] <Wug> whoops caps
#2208 [23:54] <VoxelHead> i had no idea.
#2209 [23:54] <Wug> vox, pray you continue having no idea
#2210 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#2211 [23:54] <Wug> I can tell what that is from #minecraft (posting anything on it is an nsfw ban)
#2212 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> o.O
#2213 [23:56] * o . 0