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#2 [00:04] <Wug> im leaving, back sometime
#3 [00:05] <LordTrevor> bye
#4 [00:08] <genshou> sigh.
#5 [00:09] <genshou> Ironman Challenge + falling into lava = sadface
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#7 [00:23] <VoxelHead> watch out for the moose
#8 [00:24] <LordTrevor> VoxelHead: your mom is a potatoe.
#9 [00:25] <Orbitoid> LordTrevor: :0
#10 [00:26] <bokaholic> :O
#11 [00:26] <VoxelHead> crikey
#12 [00:26] <LordTrevor> What, you wana potate to? You dont wana potate with me.
#13 [00:26] <LordTrevor> Potatos gonna
#14 [00:26] <LordTrevor> potate
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#17 [00:35] <Zhek> Anyone else has trouble login in on minecraft? :o
#18 [00:36] <mignad> Yeah :O
#19 [00:36] <mignad> but it maybe a problem on my pc :S
#20 [00:36] <Zhek> tada, it works now
#21 [00:36] <Zhek> try resetting your PW on the website, it's what I did.
#22 [00:39] <sammaelt> i had to do this a few days ago, when i had to check the confirmation mail i realised i also forgot my gmail pass, good thing i had the pass to a second gmail account to reset my first gmail then minecraft duh im felt like a total idiot
#23 [00:40] <sammaelt> -m
#24 [00:40] <Keltinray> sammaelt, good thing you had the password, so you didn't have to go to your third gmail
#25 [00:42] <sammaelt> dont have one :/
#26 [00:42] <Keltinray> D:
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#35 [01:34] <GLaDOS> VoxelHead op me
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#38 [01:45] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Feed is empty!
#39 [01:45] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Feed is empty!
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#46 [02:05] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go =(
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#51 [02:08] <Wug> ugh stupid services migration
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#54 [02:28] <Zemedelphos> Anyone know how far away you can hear a portal from
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#61 [02:49] <MrCrashdummy> Hello w
#62 [02:50] <Wug> lol thats mr crash test dummy to you
#63 [02:50] <MrCrashdummy> Lol
#64 [02:51] <MrCrashdummy> That was my name first, only that was to long for most usernames
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#66 [02:52] <MrCrashdummy> So....
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#69 [03:02] * VoxelHead is away: programming
#69 [03:02] <NotiCon> VoxelHead: what you programming?
#70 [03:03] <Zemedelphos> probably himself
#71 [03:08] <SinZ> Once a programmer drowned in the sea. Many Marines where at that time on the beach, but the programmer was shouting "F1 F1" and nobody understood it.
#72 [03:08] <NotiCon> teehee
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#74 [03:12] <SinZ> Unix is user friendly. It's just very particular about who it's friends are.
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#78 [03:23] <Crashdummy> v
#79 [03:24] <Crashdummy> Am i still in?
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#95 [04:38] <lemon-rev> soo many quits its getting tardy lol
#96 [04:44] <tnb> anyone here?
#97 [04:46] <Wug> no
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#98 [04:51] <tnb> you are funny, mister
#99 [04:52] <tnb> say, in case I have the following error message: "Fatal error occured (7): com.mojang.minecraft.MinecraftApplet"
#100 [04:52] <tnb> what would be your best guess on solving that?
#101 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> How are you launching minecraft? Where are you getting that error?
#102 [04:53] <tnb> ah, hey
#103 [04:53] <tnb> I have no idea, just forwarding a question from a user
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#105 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> It would be best if that user could come here and ask themselves.
#106 [04:54] <tnb> but asking him that was my first intent as well, so I guess I just have to wait for a reply
#107 [04:54] <tnb> don't expect too much
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#109 [04:57] <tnb> GreyVulpine?
#110 [04:57] <tnb> still there?
#111 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#112 [04:58] <tnb> I've written you some stuff via pm
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#122 [05:38] <Trel> Does anyone use MineOs+
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#124 [05:55] <sammaelt> i don't storry but i bet you went there already http://minecraft.codeemo.com/tutorials.html
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#128 [06:05] <suctioncup> Do you get modding help here?
#129 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the mod
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#139 [07:08] <Sooi11> Hello
#140 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#159 [08:08] <lordy> hi
#160 [08:08] <lordy> i have got a question concerning my own minecraft server and a premium account, could anyone help me? :)
#161 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> What's the question?
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#163 [08:09] <lordy> i have an own minecraft server with my friend....now i want to buy a premium account. can my friend (who won't buy it) join then still my server?
#164 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> If your friend wants to play minecraft, he'll have to buy it.
#165 [08:10] <lordy> or will it be like closed for him, because he haven't a premium account? we play the classic version.
#166 [08:12] <lemon-rev> lordy you could pay for minecraft for your friend and get him a gift code, to enter into minecraft but if your friends wants to play other from classic he will have to own it
#167 [08:13] <lordy> okay
#168 [08:13] <lordy> thanks :)
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#184 [09:19] <Sooi11> hello?
#185 [09:19] <Sooi11> I port forwarded my ip but i cant connect to my server
#186 [09:20] <Sooi11> #townofminecraft
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#192 [09:34] <Morrolan> Soooi11: What's the IP?
#193 [09:34] <Morrolan> You can use !check iphere to make sure that everything is set up correctly.
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#215 [10:46] <Ccool> Hello!
#216 [10:46] <bokaholic> Morning.
#217 [10:46] <Ccool> Can i get some help?
#218 [10:47] <Morrolan> Depends on what you need. ;)
#219 [10:47] <bokaholic> :)
#220 [10:47] <Ccool> I have a problem with logging in to my minecraft account.
#221 [10:48] <Morrolan> What happens if you try to log in?
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#226 [10:55] <pwnus> is he going to answer?
#227 [10:57] <bokaholic> :o
#228 [10:57] <bokaholic> The suspence is killing me.
#229 [10:57] <bokaholic> :I
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#232 [11:02] <Morrolan> God, I love these guys. First they don't want to tell us what their issue is, then they don't respond and in the end they leave. ^^
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#241 [11:22] <mib_u21y7w> Hey, can anybody help with my server?
#242 [11:22] <m0nk> nyes?
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#244 [11:23] <relsqui> ?? ask
#245 [11:23] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#246 [11:23] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#247 [11:23] <mib_u21y7w> I have some massive problem I can't figure out
#248 [11:23] <mib_u21y7w> my server keeps stopping with no error
#249 [11:23] <xales> Make a new folder on your desktop
#250 [11:23] <xales> copy the server file there, run it from there
#251 [11:23] <mib_u21y7w> It's running in a screen process on a Linux VPS
#252 [11:24] <Sooi11> I portforwarded my ip and i cant connect to my server
#253 [11:24] <xales> mib_u21y7w: what provider?
#254 [11:24] <m0nk> Sooi11 use the ip from your isp
#255 [11:24] <Sooi11> isp?
#256 [11:24] <xales> Sooi11: you're either using the wrong IP, didn't port forward correctly, or aren't running the server properly
#257 [11:24] <mib_u21y7w> Virpus.com
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#259 [11:25] <Sooi11> My previous server worked and i did it the same way
#260 [11:25] <xales> Make sure that you didn't put an IP in the server.properties file. If you did, remove it
#261 [11:26] <Andy-chan> Well...I guess it's better to start from the base.
#262 [11:27] <Andy-chan> Port forwarded your IP?
#263 [11:27] <mib_u21y7w> Me?
#264 [11:27] <Andy-chan> Define your IP address here, since you talked about Linux VPS.
#265 [11:28] <mib_u21y7w> sorry man I don't know what you mean - the VPS is hosted by another company, IP shoudnt be an issue should it?
#266 [11:28] <Andy-chan> Since technically there are 2 IPs that are "yours". The one given to you by the Linux VPS provider and the one you using at home.
#267 [11:28] <mib_u21y7w> oh right
#268 [11:29] <Andy-chan> So, is "my ip" as in the IP address to your Linux VPS?
#269 [11:29] <Andy-chan> And NOT your home IP?
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#271 [11:30] <mib_u21y7w> sorry man this is two different problems here - @Sooi11 had the port forwarding issues and I have the server stopping by itself (Linux VPS)
#272 [11:30] <Andy-chan> Because if the server is on your VPS side -- you shouldn't need to do anything to your home network. There are of course exceptions, like if you use IDS and SNORT like solutions at home.
#273 [11:30] <Andy-chan> Oh.
#274 [11:30] <Andy-chan> Heh...You are correct.
#275 [11:30] <Sooi11> Ok i just made a new server thingy
#276 [11:30] <mib_u21y7w> :)
#277 [11:30] <Andy-chan> I somehow mistook the sentence said by Sooi11 as by you.
#278 [11:31] <mib_u21y7w> that's cool man.
#279 [11:31] <mib_u21y7w> Sooi11 - are you attempting to connect from the same machine?
#280 [11:31] <Sooi11> the server starts
#281 [11:31] <Sooi11> yea
#282 [11:31] <mib_u21y7w> ok
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#284 [11:31] <mib_u21y7w> so port forwarding shouldnt be a problem.
#285 [11:31] <Sooi11> and when i try to connect it says connection refused: connect
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#287 [11:31] <mib_u21y7w> In minecraft, try entering: 127.0.0.1
#288 [11:32] <Andy-chan> Sooi11: Wait, you are hosting the server on the same machine as the client?
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#290 [11:32] <Sooi11> yes
#291 [11:32] <Sooi11> with the port?
#292 [11:32] <mib_u21y7w> did that connect?
#293 [11:32] <mib_u21y7w> yes
#294 [11:32] <Andy-chan> Sooi11: Hm, do what mib_u21y7w said basically. But that sounds nasty for Minecraft.
#295 [11:32] <Sooi11> it works with 127.0.0.1
#296 [11:32] <Sooi11> but other people cant join that
#297 [11:33] <Andy-chan> Other people must use the IP address that your ISP has given to you.
#298 [11:33] <Sooi11> my public ip?
#299 [11:33] <mib_u21y7w> yes
#300 [11:33] <Andy-chan> And that is assuming you have forwarded the correct port properly if you use something like a router.
#301 [11:33] <mib_u21y7w> and configured your firewall correctly
#302 [11:33] <Sooi11> but i need to be able to join my own server with my public ip right?
#303 [11:34] <Morrolan> Sooi11: You can check wheter you've forwarded the ports correctly with !check iphere
#304 [11:34] <Andy-chan> No.
#305 [11:34] <mib_u21y7w> no - you shouldn;t
#306 [11:34] <Sooi11> well i was able before
#307 [11:34] <Morrolan> Well, you can, obviously.
#308 [11:34] <mib_u21y7w> it's not good to
#309 [11:34] <Morrolan> But it's not necessary.
#310 [11:34] * m0nk checks if NinjaKirby is here.. O-O
#310 [11:34] <Andy-chan> "You can" depends on how your routing works or if it uses RIP related things.
#311 [11:34] <Sooi11> check what?
#312 [11:34] <Andy-chan> It can easily cause loop problems :P
#313 [11:35] <Sooi11> can someone test if my server works?
#314 [11:35] <mib_u21y7w> yep.
#315 [11:35] <Morrolan> use !check iphere
#316 [11:35] <Sooi11> !check iphere
#317 [11:35] <m0nk> ! 88.89.15.191
#318 [11:35] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Morrolan: like this?
#319 [11:35] <Sooi11> like that?
#320 [11:35] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!check iphere
#321 [11:35] <m0nk> !check 88.89.15.191
#322 [11:35] <mib_u21y7w> http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
#323 [11:35] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Sooi11: damn :P
#324 [11:35] <Morrolan> Sooi11: Insert your ip where iphere is, obviously. :p
#325 [11:35] <Morrolan> Lukegb: No trolling for you today. :p
#326 [11:35] <Sooi11> !check 192.168.1.198
#327 [11:36] <Sooi11> oops
#328 [11:36] <mib_u21y7w> lol
#329 [11:36] <Sooi11> !check 178.117.84.199
#330 [11:36] <Morrolan> Use the external address of the server though, mind you.
#331 [11:36] <Sooi11> i doesnt work
#332 [11:36] <m0nk> !check 88.89.15.191
#333 [11:37] <Morrolan> Is 178.117.84.199 the external ip of the server, Sooi11?
#334 [11:37] <Sooi11> yea
#335 [11:37] <Morrolan> Then you haven't forwarded the ports correctly.
#336 [11:37] <Sooi11> i did
#337 [11:37] <Sooi11> i entered my default ip
#338 [11:37] <Sooi11> then i went to port forwarding
#339 [11:37] <Sooi11> entered my ip and the ports
#340 [11:37] <Sooi11> doesnt work
#341 [11:39] <Andy-chan> What did you put for default IP?
#342 [11:40] <Sooi11> 192.168.1.1
#343 [11:40] <Andy-chan> Why did you mention 192.168.1.198 earlier on?
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#348 [11:41] <MrCrashdummy> Hi Morrolan
#349 [11:42] <Andy-chan> Sooi11: You better check and confirm your internal IP / the IP assigned to your computer in your network first. Is it 192.168.1.198 or 192.168.1.1
#350 [11:42] <Sooi11_> no no
#351 [11:42] <Sooi11_> i ment that 192.168.1.1 is my default gateway
#352 [11:43] <m0nk> what ip did you put in portforwarding. it should be the ip that comes from the isp.
#353 [11:43] <Sooi11_> i typed ipconfig in cmd
#354 [11:43] <m0nk> i dont think that's the right one
#355 [11:43] <m0nk> go to www.whatismyip.com
#356 [11:43] <Sooi11> its the one with IPV4 right?
#357 [11:43] <m0nk> and check
#358 [11:43] <m0nk> yes but that still the wrong one
#359 [11:44] <Andy-chan> Whaat?
#360 [11:44] <Sooi11> But thats my public ip right?
#361 [11:44] <Andy-chan> No, for portforwarding you put the IP address of your internal IP, NOT external/public one.
#362 [11:45] <Sooi11> yea i know
#363 [11:45] <Sooi11> i did
#364 [11:45] <m0nk> and it doesn't work then something must be wrong?
#365 [11:45] <MrCrashdummy> For portforwarding you shouldnt use the www.whatsmyip.com IP
#366 [11:45] <Sooi11> but is it from the router or the lan your have to port forward it?
#367 [11:45] <Andy-chan> I was referring to this: <m0nk> what ip did you put in portforwarding. it should be the ip that comes from the isp.
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#370 [11:46] <Andy-chan> Well, define LAN here. Otherwise it would be an incorrect term for sure. Because you don't forward anything using LAN.
#371 [11:46] <Sooi11> well i port forwarded y router ip
#372 [11:46] <Sooi11> *my
#373 [11:46] <Andy-chan> But after typing that, I can assume your question is about port external-internal port mapping?
#374 [11:47] <Sooi11> Im just asking why it doesnt work
#375 [11:47] <Sooi11> i did do everything that you need to do i think
#376 [11:48] <Andy-chan> Technically, you want something like this: SRC_IP:SRC_PORT => DST_IP:DST_PORT . Which means you should have something like *:[minecraft_port] => [your_computer_lan_ip_address]:[minecraft_port]
#377 [11:48] <Sooi11> huh???
#378 [11:48] <Andy-chan> While you don't need to have a port mirroring mapping, let's keep things simple.
#379 [11:49] <g> that's hardly simple
#380 [11:49] <g> walk him through it
#381 [11:49] <Andy-chan> Tell me how the fields you have / you can fill when you try to forward a port.
#382 [11:49] <m0nk> did you write port 25565 - 25565 under and ontop of each other. then Assign a game or application to a local network device on your cmd - ipconfig ip?
#383 [11:50] <Andy-chan> *how -> remove that
#384 [11:50] <Sooi11> k 1 sec
#385 [11:50] <Sooi11> Name
#386 [11:50] <Sooi11> IP Address
#387 [11:50] <Sooi11> TCP
#388 [11:50] <Andy-chan> Name: MinecraftForward
#389 [11:50] <Sooi11> UDP
#390 [11:50] <Sooi11> Schedule
#391 [11:50] <Sooi11> Inbound Filter
#392 [11:50] <Sooi11> I used minecraft
#393 [11:51] <Andy-chan> It's fine
#394 [11:51] <Andy-chan> It's good
#395 [11:51] <Andy-chan> IP_Address: Your computer IP address, not your default gateway, not your public IP
#396 [11:51] <Sooi11> yes i know
#397 [11:51] <Andy-chan> Huh, now I need someone help here. What protocols minecraft uses? Both?
#398 [11:51] <m0nk> and you connect using "localhost" or your public ip..
#399 [11:52] <Sooi11> TCP i think
#400 [11:52] <Sooi11> but you can enter both so i did
#401 [11:52] <Sooi11> public ip
#402 [11:52] <Andy-chan> Well, yeah. You can put both, sure.
#403 [11:52] <Andy-chan> Schedule, I assume you want 24/7 so we don't need to touch it.
#404 [11:53] <Andy-chan> Inbound filter?
#405 [11:53] <Sooi11> i just keep it like it is
#406 [11:53] <Andy-chan> That sounds like a firewall thing.
#407 [11:53] <Sooi11> With inbound filter you can choose
#408 [11:53] <mib_u21y7w> can anyone help with my initial issue?
#409 [11:53] <Sooi11> allow all or deny all
#410 [11:53] <Andy-chan> Oh.
#411 [11:53] <Andy-chan> Allow all.
#412 [11:53] <Sooi11> yeah
#413 [11:53] <m0nk> or just "default"
#414 [11:54] <Andy-chan> Might as well put allow all.
#415 [11:54] <m0nk> default is allo-all
#416 [11:54] <Andy-chan> Funny how it mixes forwarding with filtering.
#417 [11:54] <m0nk> w*
#418 [11:54] <Sooi11> But i didnt do anything wrong there i gues?
#419 [11:54] <Andy-chan> So what IP address you put anyway?
#420 [11:55] <Sooi11> 192.168.1.197
#421 [11:55] <Andy-chan> Waiiiit....It was 192.168.1.168 before.
#422 [11:55] <Andy-chan> Oops
#423 [11:55] <Andy-chan> 192.168.1.198
#424 [11:55] <Sooi11> yeah thats my lan im sorry
#425 [11:55] <m0nk> you typed that really fast
#426 [11:55] <Andy-chan> Your LAN?
#427 [11:55] <Andy-chan> What do you mean with your LAN?
#428 [11:55] <m0nk> dont put your lan. put your internal router "lan" ip
#429 [11:56] <Sooi11> lol
#430 [11:56] <m0nk> the ip that your computer have from the router
#431 [11:56] <m0nk> ,,
#432 [11:56] <Sooi11> when i enter ipconfig in cmd
#433 [11:56] <Sooi11> it says wireless Lan-adapter for wireless network blah blah
#434 [11:56] <Andy-chan> The closest thing you could describe a LAN as a whole is by subnet not a single IP...(Well, I guess if you want to be picky, you can describe using the router bastion of the LAN)
#435 [11:57] <Andy-chan> (But I guess we are not at that stage)
#436 [11:57] <m0nk> did you try with both?
#437 [11:57] <Sooi11> mhm
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#439 [11:57] <m0nk> try this 192.168.1.197
#440 [11:57] <m0nk> if you didn't
#441 [11:57] <Andy-chan> Huh...Do you by any chance have multiple interface cards?
#442 [11:57] <Sooi11> i am using that one now
#443 [11:57] <m0nk> what ip did you portforward?
#444 [11:58] <Sooi11> 192.168.1.197
#445 [11:58] <Andy-chan> Hmm, I let m0nk take over I guess.
#446 [11:58] <Sooi11> my wireless blah thing
#447 [11:58] <m0nk> and it didn't wokr?
#448 [11:58] <m0nk> rk*
#449 [11:58] <Sooi11> nope
#450 [11:58] <Andy-chan> mib_u21y7w: Did you use that Linux VPS before?
#451 [11:58] <m0nk> thent ry the other
#452 [11:58] <Sooi11> well i was trying the other
#453 [11:58] <Sooi11> but it didnt work as well
#454 [11:58] <Andy-chan> mib_u21y7w: Lots of VPS have limit on consumption per [whatever unit] for whatever resource.
#455 [11:59] <m0nk> and in port mapping. you need to select the "all" option then 25565 under and over then add.
#456 [11:59] <m0nk> then portforward the the ip
#457 [11:59] <m0nk> not just tcp
#458 [11:59] <Sooi11> i used 50500
#459 [11:59] <m0nk> thats wrong
#460 [11:59] <Sooi11> but changed that in the server.properties
#461 [11:59] <m0nk> doesnt work that wya
#462 [11:59] <m0nk> way*
#463 [11:59] <Sooi11> it did before
#464 [11:59] <Sooi11> and works for my friend
#465 [12:00] <Andy-chan> If server.properties was changed, it should work fine.
#466 [12:00] <m0nk> k
#467 [12:00] <Andy-chan> mib_u21y7w: So you may need to check with the company if your Minecraft server is triggering something that is cutting you off for start I would say.
#468 [12:00] <m0nk> did you just put it as tcp?
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#471 [12:01] <Sooi11> It asks TCP and UDP so i entered 50500 for them
#472 [12:01] <Sooi11> i can send screenshot to make it easier maybe
#473 [12:01] <m0nk> do that
#474 [12:02] <m0nk> what's wrong with 25565 ?
#475 [12:02] <Andy-chan> Sooi11: Can you pastebin the output of netstat -an |find /i "listening" in your cmd?
#476 [12:02] <Andy-chan> Sooi11: netstat -an |find /i "listening"
#477 [12:02] <Sooi11> huh?
#478 [12:03] <Andy-chan> You know the place where you type ipconfig (cmd / command prompt)
#479 [12:03] <Andy-chan> Type in: netstat -an |find /i "listening"
#480 [12:03] <Sooi11> k
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#483 [12:03] <Andy-chan> It should give you a list of stuff.
#484 [12:03] <Andy-chan> Can you then go there and paste the output to http://pastebin.com/ and give me the link?
#485 [12:04] <Sooi11> i got the list
#486 [12:04] <Sooi11> how can i copy the output?
#487 [12:04] <Andy-chan> Yes, just go the pastebin.com and paste it there and give me the link. You don't want to flood the channel with the content of that list here.
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#490 [12:05] <Sooi11> yes but how can i copy that list in cmd
#491 [12:05] <Morrolan> Sooi11: Right click -> highlight -> select the stuff -> ctrl-c -> ctrl-v
#492 [12:06] <Morrolan> Not sure if it's called highlight, in german it's "markieren", so it could be something like "mark" as well.
#493 [12:06] <Sooi11> Im Dutch
#494 [12:06] <Andy-chan> Or if you want to be fancy: netstat -an |find /i "listening" > netstat_out.txt
#495 [12:06] <Andy-chan> And everything will be in that .txt
#496 [12:06] <Morrolan> Well, when you rightclick in the console window it's the topmost entry.
#497 [12:06] <Morrolan> Or yea, do what Andy-chan says, much easier.
#498 [12:07] <Sooi11> http://pastebin.com/cHK9YEFT
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#500 [12:08] <Andy-chan> Either Minecraft doesn't use TCP...
#501 [12:08] <m0nk> i dont see any 50500
#502 [12:08] <Morrolan> It does.
#503 [12:08] <Andy-chan> Or it was not running when you typed netstat...
#504 [12:08] <Morrolan> The server was running while you did this cmmand?
#505 [12:08] <Sooi11> http://i52.tinypic.com/n4cf1s.jpg
#506 [12:08] <Sooi11> and no :/
#507 [12:08] <Sooi11> i do it again
#508 [12:09] <Andy-chan> Yes, please./
#509 [12:10] <m0nk> put instead of application name. use your ip.
#510 [12:10] <Andy-chan> lol...That sounds random.
#511 [12:10] <m0nk> its what i did
#512 [12:10] <Andy-chan> You may want to remove the disabled forwarding rule for Minecraft2.
#513 [12:11] <Andy-chan> Depending on the implementation of the forwarding system, it can easily cause problem.
#514 [12:11] <Sooi11> it is disabled
#515 [12:11] <Andy-chan> Yes, but remove it.
#516 [12:11] <Andy-chan> The problem is that I don't know if your router has a "DISABLED" rule or just ignore it.
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#519 [12:12] <Andy-chan> What's there is duplicate anyway.
#520 [12:13] <Sooi11> http://pastebin.com/HpcDtFZY
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#522 [12:13] <m0nk> doesn't he need port 25565 to connect to minecraft.net to check his account thing anyway?
#523 [12:13] <Andy-chan> That's outbound anyway.
#524 [12:13] <Andy-chan> And that's client.
#525 [12:13] <Andy-chan> Not server related.
#526 [12:14] <m0nk> thing is. everyone uses a client anyway to connect to a server-
#527 [12:14] <m0nk> .
#528 [12:14] <m0nk> *
#529 [12:14] <Andy-chan> At least we know that your Minecraft is listening to the correct prot.
#530 [12:15] <Sooi11> am i doing something wrong?
#531 [12:15] <Andy-chan> You may want to give me the output of ipconfig /a too
#532 [12:15] <Andy-chan> Do the something with pastebin.
#533 [12:15] <Andy-chan> *same thing
#534 [12:15] <Andy-chan> So far everything you did seems to be spot on.
#535 [12:15] <g> !check 178-117-84-199.access.telenet.be
#536 [12:15] <Sooi11> ipconfig /a?
#537 [12:16] <Andy-chan> Yes.
#538 [12:16] <Sooi11> it gives my some commands
#539 [12:16] <Andy-chan> Heh...My mistake: ipconfig /all
#540 [12:16] <Andy-chan> I somehow hoped it would aliases to /all
#541 [12:17] <Sooi11> its in dutch so..
#542 [12:17] <Andy-chan> Basically: ipconfig /all > ipconfig_out.txt
#543 [12:17] <Andy-chan> It's fine. The addresses are numbers!
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#545 [12:17] <m0nk> how did something come to same thing ? P:
#546 [12:18] <Andy-chan> I don't know. When I type fast I somehow type weird things...It tend to be things that sound like the same but not the same.
#547 [12:18] <m0nk> lol
#548 [12:18] <m0nk> same here :D
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#550 [12:19] <Sooi11> wheres that text file then?
#551 [12:19] <Andy-chan> In the directory you called the command.
#552 [12:20] <Andy-chan> So, possibly, my documents.
#553 [12:20] <Andy-chan> (Or really, anywhere)
#554 [12:20] <Andy-chan> Just check what directory it is listed as in your command prompt. It should be there.
#555 [12:20] <Sooi11> yeah got it
#556 [12:21] <Sooi11> http://pastebin.com/YLhpQh0Z
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#558 [12:21] <Sooi11> cant you break in my pc now :p?
#559 [12:22] <Andy-chan> No.
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#561 [12:22] <Andy-chan> If what you exposed so far can allow someone here to break into your computer. Then all the bots running automatically on the internet would have already done so -- it wouldn't require a human.
#562 [12:23] <JasonBeee> anyone have any idea why i can't place water on a pvp server?
#563 [12:23] <Sooi11> lol
#564 [12:23] <Andy-chan> Anyway, you have multiple interfaces, connecting to the same gateway in the same subnet.
#565 [12:23] <Andy-chan> Why is that?
#566 [12:23] <Sooi11> i have no idea
#567 [12:24] <Andy-chan> Which one you are using anyway?
#568 [12:24] <Andy-chan> The wireless one or the wired one?
#569 [12:24] <Sooi11> Well both
#570 [12:24] <Sooi11> its just
#571 [12:24] <Andy-chan> If you don't need the wireless, might as well disable it.
#572 [12:24] <Sooi11> im connected to the wireless and theres a cable from the router to my pc
#573 [12:25] <JasonBeee> Anyone? When I place water, it hovers for a second then dissapears
#574 [12:25] <Andy-chan> You can easily break the routing table if you have something like that without a aggregation or redundancy mechanism.
#575 [12:25] <JasonBeee> and when i right click with a bucket anyhwere, it fills with water
#576 [12:25] <Andy-chan> *if you DON'T HAVE
#577 [12:25] <Andy-chan> Argh...
#578 [12:25] <Andy-chan> Actually, forget the correction.
#579 [12:25] <Andy-chan> The first sentence was correct and made sense.
#580 [12:26] <Sooi11> So only connect with cable?
#581 [12:26] <Sooi11> not wireless?
#582 [12:26] <Andy-chan> Well, for now...
#583 [12:26] <Andy-chan> You should...
#584 [12:26] <mib_u21y7w> Can anybody help me? My server keeps stopping with no error message, I'm running Ubuntu Server 10.04 and vanilla minecraft server
#585 [12:26] <Sooi11> It worked before they way i did everything now
#586 [12:26] <Andy-chan> Unplug the cable.
#587 [12:26] <Andy-chan> And see if it works.
#588 [12:27] <Andy-chan> But then, do you have someone outside your LAN to test your server anyway?
#589 [12:27] <Andy-chan> Connecting into your local network using external IP address is also dependant on the implementation of the router -- the norm is that it wouldn't work.
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#591 [12:28] <Sooi11_> srry disconected for a sec
#592 [12:28] <Andy-chan> Well, try it now.
#593 [12:28] <Andy-chan> (With the cable unplugged)
#594 [12:29] <Sooi11_> yeah doesnt work
#595 [12:29] <Andy-chan> (And I hope you are not using a non-reserved dynamic IP address)
#596 [12:29] <Andy-chan> How are you trying it anyway?
#597 [12:30] <Sooi11_> But my server worked fine till someone came for new internet thing and now it doesnt
#598 [12:30] <Andy-chan> What is your public IP address?
#599 [12:31] <Sooi11> 178.117.84.199
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#601 [12:32] <Andy-chan> Is your server running?
#602 [12:33] <Sooi11> yes
#603 [12:33] <Andy-chan> When you said, new interent.
#604 [12:34] <Andy-chan> *internet
#605 [12:34] <Andy-chan> Did they replace your router?
#606 [12:34] <Sooi11> no
#607 [12:34] <Sooi11> the adapter i think its called
#608 [12:34] <Andy-chan> And you were running using 50500 all that time too?
#609 [12:34] <Sooi11> like where everything is coming from?
#610 [12:34] <Andy-chan> The modem I guess.
#611 [12:34] <Sooi11> yep
#612 [12:34] <Andy-chan> Hmm...
#613 [12:34] <Andy-chan> Interesting.
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#615 [12:35] <Sooi11> i screwed up my internet alot
#616 [12:35] <Sooi11> trying to fix thi
#617 [12:35] <Sooi11> *this
#618 [12:35] <Sooi11> so my ip changed i couple times
#619 [12:35] <Sooi11> and my public one as well
#620 [12:35] <Andy-chan> Hmm...
#621 [12:35] <Andy-chan> So you using a DHCP server I assume...
#622 [12:36] <Andy-chan> Can you check ipconfig /all again?
#623 [12:36] <Sooi11> k
#624 [12:36] <Andy-chan> Just want to make sure it give you a new internal IP.
#625 [12:36] <Andy-chan> * it didn't
#626 [12:36] <Andy-chan> Otherwise, it looks like your firewall is blocking the port.
#627 [12:37] <Andy-chan> But I thought D-Link automatically puts a firewall rule for everything you forward...
#628 [12:38] <Sooi11> But will minecraft make a better server system or will it always be like this?
#629 [12:39] <Andy-chan> Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
#630 [12:39] <Sooi11> will it always be with port forwading and stuff?
#631 [12:39] <Andy-chan> You really don't want UPnP.
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#633 [12:39] <Sooi11> cant they have there own servers?
#634 [12:40] <Andy-chan> Costly.
#635 [12:40] <Andy-chan> Very costly.
#636 [12:40] <Sooi11> yeah but he earned alot i gues
#637 [12:40] <Andy-chan> Way less than enough, I can assure you that with 100% confidence.
#638 [12:41] <Andy-chan> Not many games host their own servers anyway.
#639 [12:41] <Sooi11> http://pastebin.com/1MMU744w
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#641 [12:42] <Andy-chan> You deleted the third entry in your forwarding too, right?
#642 [12:42] <Sooi11> i didnt
#643 [12:42] <Andy-chan> Not a bad idea to do so, just to minimise the chance of that causing a problem.
#644 [12:43] <Sooi11> k
#645 [12:43] <Andy-chan> Because it's not even that low.
#646 [12:43] <Sooi11> im gonna be disconected for a sec then
#647 [12:44] <Sooi11> is it good i change the port to 25565 now?
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#649 [12:45] <Andy-chan> If you want, but that shouldn't cause a problem.
#650 [12:45] <Andy-chan> Because your forwarding is correct.
#651 [12:45] <Andy-chan> And your minecraft is listening to that port too.
#652 [12:45] <Andy-chan> The next thing you/I would like to check is your filtering rules.
#653 [12:45] <Andy-chan> Basically, your firewall.
#654 [12:46] <Andy-chan> (But the inbound filter should have that covered)
#655 [12:47] <m0nk> failed to connect to the server connection refused:connect
#656 [12:47] <m0nk> i was fixing a keyboard. my friend spilled cola all over his pc and the keyboard stopped working
#657 [12:48] <Andy-chan> But basically, check that and make a rule to allow source from anywhere to connect to your router using the minecraft port basically.
#658 [12:48] <NonStop> My minecraft works but I just can't dismantle any material at all (except for flowers). Can someone help me?
#659 [12:48] <Andy-chan> I am pretty sure that the inbound filter does that already.
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#662 [12:49] <Andy-chan> But so far, when I try to telnet to that port (50500) using the external IP you gave me.
#663 [12:49] <Andy-chan> It seems like a closed port to me.
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#665 [12:51] <m0nk> port 50500 doesnt work. i just tested it port forwared and changed port in server.config
#666 [12:51] <m0nk> try with 25565
#667 [12:51] <Andy-chan> Really? If that is true then it's big enough that requires a bug report.
#668 [12:51] <Andy-chan> To Minecraft.
#669 [12:51] <Andy-chan> But...still doesn't make sense.
#670 [12:52] <Andy-chan> Because netstat shows the port opened.
#671 [12:52] <m0nk> doesnt matter
#672 [12:52] <MrCrashdummy> Not all ports work
#673 [12:52] <m0nk> its either works or doesn't
#674 [12:52] <MrCrashdummy> Some ports are already used by other programs
#675 [12:52] <Andy-chan> MrCrashdummy: Doesn't seem that from the netstat.
#676 [12:53] <m0nk> you try changing to 50500.
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#679 [12:53] <Andy-chan> Well, even IF minecraft doesn't work in a non-default port. Something is still wrong on his side.
#680 [12:53] <MrCrashdummy> Wait 256565 doest work?
#681 [12:53] <m0nk> it needs. (even if it is a server) 25565 to authenticate the account with minecraft.net
#682 [12:53] <Andy-chan> Using his current configuration, I should be able to establish a telnet connection to the port of 50500.
#683 [12:54] <MrCrashdummy> If 25565 doesnt work, no other port will.
#684 [12:54] <m0nk> no 50500 doesn't work. 25565 works
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#686 [12:54] <MrCrashdummy> Why are you guys tring 50500 in the first place?
#687 [12:54] <m0nk> cause mr.oizo thought it might work?
#688 [12:54] <m0nk> just changed back to 25565 and that works :D
#689 [12:54] <Zantetsukan> Could someone test my minecraft server please? IP is 92.7.147.114
#690 [12:54] <MrCrashdummy> Ill test it
#691 [12:54] <Zantetsukan> thanks
#692 [12:55] <Andy-chan> The authentication thing, it is outbound.
#693 [12:55] <Andy-chan> The forwarding is done for inbound.
#694 [12:55] <m0nk> bad login Zantetsukan
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#696 [12:55] <MrCrashdummy> It works Zantetsukan
#697 [12:55] <m0nk> how?
#698 [12:55] <Zantetsukan> awesomne
#699 [12:55] <m0nk> ah nvm
#700 [12:55] <m0nk> works
#701 [12:55] <Zantetsukan> thanks guys
#702 [12:55] <Zantetsukan> big help
#703 [12:56] <Zantetsukan> posted on yahoo answers and no one replied
#704 [12:56] <MrCrashdummy> No problem mate ;)
#705 [12:59] <Andy-chan> Well...I'm heading back home now so, I won't be here. Good luck with your problem -- but like I've said, the next place I would check is your filtering rules / firewall rules.
#706 [12:59] <Andy-chan> And by firewall, it would be both your computer and the router one.
#707 [13:00] <MrCrashdummy> Bye
#708 [13:02] <MrCrashdummy> m0nk does your server work?
#709 [13:02] <m0nk> yes
#710 [13:02] <MrCrashdummy> cool.
#711 [13:02] <m0nk> why do you ask?
#712 [13:03] <MrCrashdummy> You had problems didnt you?
#713 [13:03] <m0nk> no
#714 [13:03] <m0nk> i was testing ports for that other guy but he left and i found out that 50500 didn't work
#715 [13:03] <MrCrashdummy> oh, sorry
#716 [13:04] <m0nk> nvm np
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#719 [13:05] <Sooi11> Hello?
#720 [13:05] <MrCrashdummy> Hello
#721 [13:05] <Sooi11> Andy-chan: im sorry it took so long
#722 [13:05] <MrCrashdummy> Andy-Chan is AFK i think
#723 [13:06] <Sooi11> sh*t
#724 [13:06] <m0nk> that guy.
#725 [13:06] <MrCrashdummy> Ah. Maybe I can help you sooi11?
#726 [13:06] <Sooi11> brb
#727 [13:06] <Sooi11> rebooting my router
#728 [13:06] <MrCrashdummy> kay
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#734 [13:18] <Sooi11> !check 178.117.84.199
#735 [13:19] <Kealper> Sooi11: are you sure you are doing the port forwarding correctly?
#736 [13:19] <Sooi11> I think so
#737 [13:20] <Kealper> are you just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks or are you actually following a guide made for your router?
#738 [13:20] <Sooi11> Im following it
#739 [13:20] <Kealper> from portforward.com?
#740 [13:20] <Vhozard> !check
#741 [13:21] <Vhozard> ^
#742 [13:21] <Vhozard> :D
#743 [13:21] <MrCrashdummy> !check
#744 [13:21] <Sooi11> !check
#745 [13:21] <Sooi11> :(
#746 [13:21] <MrCrashdummy> what does !check even do?
#747 [13:21] <Vhozard> check for minecraft server
#748 [13:21] <Vhozard> see if it can join
#749 [13:21] <Vhozard> if it can, it will part directly
#750 [13:21] <Kealper> makes aubot try to make a connection to your ip on port 25565
#751 [13:21] <MrCrashdummy> haha, okay ;P
#752 [13:21] <Vhozard> or that
#753 [13:21] <Vhozard> :D
#754 [13:22] <Vhozard> anyway, what do I need to get iConomy + bettershop running ?
#755 [13:22] <Vhozard> currently I have:
#756 [13:22] <Vhozard> bukkitcraft
#757 [13:22] <Vhozard> iConomy.jar
#758 [13:22] <Vhozard> what else do I need ?
#759 [13:22] <Kealper> uhh...probably better to ask #Bukkit
#760 [13:22] <Kealper> as i don't use Bukkit, and have no idea how to use it
#761 [13:23] <Vhozard> bukkit is dead
#762 [13:23] <Vhozard> so is #iconomy
#763 [13:23] <Kealper> just ask and wait, eventually someone will answer you :/
#764 [13:23] <Sooi11> And how you mean follow portforwarding.com cant find anything on there
#765 [13:23] <Vhozard> no they wont haha
#766 [13:23] <Vhozard> will try anyway
#767 [13:24] <Kealper> Sooi11: just scroll down on the main page, find your router's model
#768 [13:24] <Sooi11> k
#769 [13:25] <MrCrashdummy> Lol, I am banned from #mcchatter but I ve never been there :S
#770 [13:25] <Kealper> click it, and then you will see an advertisement to buy their crappy program..there is a link in the top-right of the page to skip the advertisemen
#771 [13:25] <MrCrashdummy> Sooi11 what kind of router do you have
#772 [13:25] <SPaRT> hey guyz
#773 [13:25] <Kealper> that channel might have a ban on Mibbit clients
#774 [13:25] <MrCrashdummy> Hi
#775 [13:25] <MrCrashdummy> Why that?
#776 [13:26] <Kealper> no idea
#777 [13:26] <MrCrashdummy> That makes no sense at all...
#778 [13:26] <Kealper> yeah, there is a ban on anyone using Mibbit
#779 [13:26] <Sooi11> DIR-635
#780 [13:26] <MrCrashdummy> and why?
#781 [13:26] <Kealper> no idea, ask bread, he is the one who did it
#782 [13:27] <MrCrashdummy> IS he here?
#783 [13:27] <MrCrashdummy> *is
#784 [13:27] <Sooi11> They say it should be 192.168.0.1 as default but mine is 192.168.1.1 as default
#785 [13:27] <Kealper> idk
#786 [13:27] <Kealper> Sooi11: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DIR-635/Minecraft_Server.htm
#787 [13:27] <Kealper> oh, you found it
#788 [13:27] <Sooi11> is that a problem?
#789 [13:28] <MrCrashdummy> Kealper, I suggest you let him (Sooi11) make a static IP adress
#790 [13:28] <Kealper> probably not
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#792 [13:29] <Kealper> MrCrashdummy: depends if it's already static or not, some routers do static addresses by default :/
#793 [13:29] <sammaelt> Kealper is that your messed up firstname or messed up lastname?
#794 [13:29] <MrCrashdummy> Kealper: Really? Never heard of that before :|
#795 [13:29] <Kealper> sammaelt: my username?
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#797 [13:30] <Kealper> it's a mashup of my full, real name
#798 [13:30] <sammaelt> yea just curious if i could figure it out in case it was the firstname
#799 [13:30] <sammaelt> oh dang
#800 [13:30] <MrCrashdummy> Too bad ;P
#801 [13:30] <MrCrashdummy> Am I the only always googleing every one's name?
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#803 [13:31] <Sooi11> We will list a series of lines here that will show you exactly how to forward the ports you need to forward. Minecraft Server requires you to forward the following ports: 25565. Go ahead and enter the settings shown above into the Port Forwarding Rules menu
#804 [13:31] <Kealper> i usually don't bother, most people use different usernames for everything :/
#805 [13:31] <Sooi11> what do they mean with that?
#806 [13:31] <sammaelt> i do this with my real life friends MrCrash
#807 [13:32] <sammaelt> im already having a hard time using two nicknames and three pwd :/
#808 [13:32] <Kealper> Sooi11: make yours look like the image below that sentence
#809 [13:32] <MrCrashdummy> Sammaelt, I always do that with everyone, is your real name Romi?
#810 [13:32] <Sooi11> with ip right or not?
#811 [13:32] <Kealper> Sooi11: yes, with your computer's IP, not the one shown in the image
#812 [13:32] <Sooi11> i did that already
#813 [13:32] <wheybags_> why can i not send to #minecraft?
#814 [13:33] <m0nk> you can
#815 [13:33] <Kealper> ?? irc
#816 [13:33] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#817 [13:33] <Kealper> i think that is it
#818 [13:33] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#819 [13:33] <Kealper> indeed
#820 [13:33] <sammaelt> /ns register PWD EMAIL
#821 [13:33] <sammaelt> /ns identify PWD
#822 [13:33] <wheybags_> i know how to use nickserv
#823 [13:34] <sammaelt> MrCrash: Romi?
#824 [13:34] <wheybags_> just kinda odd to require it to talk
#825 [13:34] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Not really.
#826 [13:34] <sammaelt> im sorry wheybags
#827 [13:34] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Presents a barrier to spambots.
#828 [13:34] <Kealper> wheybags_: they do that to keep spamming noobs out
#829 [13:34] <Sooi11> !check
#830 [13:34] <xolotl> wheybags_: It's not at all uncommon on busy channels
#831 [13:34] <Kealper> Sooi11: can you connect using the IP that you are forwarding it to?
#832 [13:35] <MrCrashdummy> sammaelt, do you live in Indonesia?
#833 [13:35] <sammaelt> i live in the same country as you
#834 [13:35] <MrCrashdummy> sammaelt, where is that? :S
#835 [13:35] <sammaelt> if you dont use a proxy
#836 [13:35] <Kealper> he's in France
#837 [13:35] <Sooi11> Its saying Loggin in... for a long time
#838 [13:35] <MrCrashdummy> Im on vacation :)
#839 [13:36] <sammaelt> im called Jean
#840 [13:36] <Kealper> definately France...lol
#841 [13:36] <sammaelt> you're on vacation in fr? lol
#842 [13:36] <Kealper> definitely*
#843 [13:36] <MrCrashdummy> I live in the Netherlands
#844 [13:36] <Sooi11> Internal exceptio: java.net.SocketTimeoutEception: Read timed out
#845 [13:36] <Sooi11> *exception
#846 [13:36] <Sooi11> i live in belgium
#847 [13:36] <MrCrashdummy> ;)
#848 [13:36] <MrCrashdummy> French or Dutch part?
#849 [13:36] <sammaelt> i love netherlands, been to maastricht and rotterdam several times
#850 [13:36] <Sooi11> Dutch
#851 [13:36] <MrCrashdummy> Kewl
#852 [13:37] <Sooi11> i went to Amsterdam
#853 [13:37] <MrCrashdummy> I don't like the French internet....
#854 [13:37] <sammaelt> almost all the dutch in netherlands speak french i believe
#855 [13:37] * Kealper has only ever been to Canada and the US :<
#855 [13:37] <Sooi11> I dont speak French
#856 [13:37] <Sooi11> well im learning it
#857 [13:37] <Sooi11> but hate it
#858 [13:37] <sammaelt> french internet is kinda slow :/
#859 [13:37] <Sooi11> but oftopic
#860 [13:37] <MrCrashdummy> @sammaelt, the only thing I can say is: J'mappele Crash ;P)
#861 [13:37] <Sooi11> what am i doing wrong?
#862 [13:38] <MrCrashdummy> and vous le vous couchez avec moi
#863 [13:38] <Kealper> Sooi11: hmm....so it gets to "Logging in..." right?
#864 [13:38] <MrCrashdummy> lol I have no idea how to spell tha
#865 [13:38] <MrCrashdummy> t
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#867 [13:38] <Sooi11> yep
#868 [13:38] <sammaelt> MrCrash: thats because you're not a shop owner, jk
#869 [13:38] <almen> hi
#870 [13:38] <sammaelt> there s a french invasion in NL
#871 [13:38] <MrCrashdummy> ;) What did I say actually?
#872 [13:39] <sammaelt> Im called crash
#873 [13:39] <Sooi11> The half of Blgium is Frensh
#874 [13:39] <Kealper> Sooi11: stop your server, open server.properties, change online-mode to false, save, start server, try connecting again
#875 [13:39] <sammaelt> missing an L
#876 [13:39] <Sooi11> *French
#877 [13:39] <Sooi11> k
#878 [13:39] <MrCrashdummy> No the other sentence
#879 [13:39] <Kealper> almen: hello
#880 [13:40] <MrCrashdummy> Kealper: online mod to false? why that?
#881 [13:40] <MrCrashdummy> *mode
#882 [13:40] <Sooi11> same error
#883 [13:40] <almen> Someone know what to do if my account no longer are premium? :o
#884 [13:40] <Kealper> MrCrashdummy: just a test
#885 [13:40] <Kealper> almen: are you absolutely positive you have the right account?
#886 [13:41] <almen> yes i am
#887 [13:41] <almen> bought during alpha
#888 [13:41] <MrCrashdummy> Kealper,Sooi11, it sounds like the server is not online or not loaded correclty
#889 [13:41] <Kealper> did PayPal ever reverse the payment for whatever reason?
#890 [13:41] <almen> no
#891 [13:41] <almen> i've checked that
#892 [13:41] <Kealper> almen: do you still have proof that you bought the game? (transaction ID, etc)
#893 [13:42] <Kealper> Sooi11: can you connect to other servers just fine?
#894 [13:42] <Sooi11> yeah
#895 [13:42] <MrCrashdummy> almen: did you login to minecraft.net or did you press play ofline?
#896 [13:42] <almen> Kealper: i can look it up in my transactions
#897 [13:42] <Sooi11> my server even worked before fine
#898 [13:42] <Kealper> Sooi11: oh? when did it stop working? randomly or after a specific update?
#899 [13:42] <Sooi11> They came for a better modem now it doesnt work anymore
#900 [13:42] <Kealper> better modem....
#901 [13:43] <Kealper> what does the modem look like?
#902 [13:43] <almen> MrCrashdummy: Tried to log on and play but it didn't work
#903 [13:43] <Sooi11> I mean the place where the internet comes from
#904 [13:43] <Sooi11> im not good with those names
#905 [13:43] <Kealper> Sooi11: does your modem have more than one ethernet port on it?
#906 [13:43] <MrCrashdummy> It already says in the login screen that you are not premium almen?
#907 [13:43] <Sooi11> yes it has
#908 [13:43] <Sooi11> i dont mean my router
#909 [13:44] <almen> yes "user are not premium"
#910 [13:44] <Kealper> almen: i can't actually do anything personally, but email support@mojang.com and tell them your problem, and include your username and proof of purchace
#911 [13:44] <Kealper> purchase*
#912 [13:45] <MrCrashdummy> ^
#913 [13:45] <almen> emailed payment@mojang.com 2 times and still no answer
#914 [13:45] <Kealper> how long ago?
#915 [13:46] <almen> think it was sometime last week, like monday or something
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#917 [13:46] <Kealper> Sooi11: ok, so your modem has multiple ethernet ports, and it is also hooked up to your D-Link router? (and your computer is hooked in to your D-Link router?)
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#919 [13:47] <asnoehu> is there any way to turn of the bed feature completely on multiplayer servers?
#920 [13:47] <MrCrashdummy> asnoehu not on Vanilla servers
#921 [13:47] <Kealper> almen: hmm...well, i can't really do anything for account support, as i'm just a volunteer, i don't work for Mojang :<
#922 [13:48] <asnoehu> vanilla servers are standard servers?
#923 [13:48] <Kealper> yes
#924 [13:48] <MrCrashdummy> yes
#925 [13:48] <MrCrashdummy> the minecraft_server.jar servers
#926 [13:48] <asnoehu> ah, ic :(
#927 [13:49] <asnoehu> will this be possible in the future? or is this info unknown here?
#928 [13:49] <MrCrashdummy> unknown
#929 [13:49] <Kealper> i have not heard anything about disabling beds
#930 [13:49] <asnoehu> ic, thank you for you help people :)
#931 [13:49] <MrCrashdummy> np
#932 [13:49] <Kealper> although if you wanted, you could look around http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang and see if they have suggested it
#933 [13:50] <Kealper> and if no one else has suggested it, you could suggest that feature
#934 [13:50] <MrCrashdummy> probably :P they sugest everything
#935 [13:50] <asnoehu> ok Kealper, I will do
#936 [13:51] <MrCrashdummy> asnoehu, there is no banneditems.txt in a Vanilla server is there?
#937 [13:51] <Kealper> Sooi11: to be honest, i think i know why you are having issues, if you described stuff correctly
#938 [13:51] <MrCrashdummy> Long time since my last vanilla server
#939 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> Morning, kids
#940 [13:51] <MrCrashdummy> Morning? 19:51 :S
#941 [13:51] <Kealper> Sooi11: if i'm understanding this right, you are behind two routers, so you either need to ditch one router, or do port forwarding on the other one (the one acting as a modem)
#942 [13:51] <MrCrashdummy> ;)
#943 [13:51] <Kealper> ello dope
#944 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> McPlusPlus: it's morning on half the planet; I just round up.
#945 [13:52] <asnoehu> MrCrashdummy, I wouldnt know
#946 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> er, MrCrashdummy rather
#947 [13:52] <MrCrashdummy> asnoehu, could you check?
#948 [13:52] * Kealper gives vox some coffee
#948 [13:52] * MrCrashdummy l
#948 [13:53] * MrCrashdummy shows a clock to DopeGhoti
#948 [13:53] <Kealper> bah, is vox away?
#949 [13:53] <MrCrashdummy> Argh, I have to go.
#950 [13:53] <MrCrashdummy> Bye guys/women (I don't want to be a sexist)
#951 [13:53] <MrCrashdummy> !wiki sexist
#952 [13:53] <asnoehu> I am cheking MrCrashdummy
#953 [13:53] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism
#954 [13:53] <GreyBot> Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century, is the belief or attitude that one sex is inherently superior to, more competent than, or more valuable than the other. It can also include this type of discrimination in regards to gender. Sexism primarily involves hatred of, or prejudice towards, either sex as a whole (see misogyny and misandry), or the application
#955 [13:53] <GreyBot> of stereotypes of masculinity in relation to men, or of femininity in relation to women. It is also called male and female chauvinism.
#956 [13:53] <Kealper> >.>
#957 [13:54] <MrCrashdummy> just so you know ;)
#958 [13:54] <Kealper> thanks for that, i don't know any English at all >.>
#959 [13:54] <MrCrashdummy> :)
#960 [13:54] <MrCrashdummy> Nm, I don't have to go ;
#961 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> cat /usr/share/dict/* >> /dev/kealper
#962 [13:55] <Kealper> mv /home/kealper /dev/null
#963 [13:55] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti = Rob?
#964 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> Sometimes. Why?
#965 [13:55] <Kealper> lol
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#967 [13:55] <MrCrashdummy> I googled you ;)
#968 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#969 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> neat, I guess?
#970 [13:56] <Kealper> for some reason i thought your first name was Mike....bleh
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#972 [13:56] <MrCrashdummy> Odd habbit I have
#973 [13:56] <Kealper> /me cares not for people's actual names
#974 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> I'd note have thought that my Wikipedia account and GitHub repos would be my top three STFW results
#975 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> interesting
#976 [13:56] <asnoehu> MrCrashdummy, google does not find any, so I considr it not having it
#977 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> s/note/not/
#978 [13:57] <Morrolan> MrCrashdummy: Oh, so that's where you knew where my nick was from. XD
#979 [13:57] <Morrolan> And I thought you had read the book .;)
#980 [13:57] <MrCrashdummy> Morrolan, actually I have read the book
#981 [13:57] <Kealper> eew....my Digg account shows up in the first page of google for my name
#982 [13:57] <Morrolan> Ok then. :)
#983 [13:57] <MrCrashdummy> asnoehu, google finds everything. It haz a soul!
#984 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> Yay, my digg account does not.
#985 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> though my flickr account, which I've used even less, does.
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#987 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> Google, you're so strange.
#988 [13:58] <MrCrashdummy> It even finds wireless unprotected internet stuff
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#990 [13:58] <MrCrashdummy> so very strange
#991 [13:58] <Kealper> Haxorware....that doesn't look good on the first page of the results >.>
#992 [13:59] <MrCrashdummy> lol try asnoehu, I only get IRC related stuff
#993 [13:59] * Kealper uses this name for everything ._.
#993 [14:00] <Kealper> well...almost everything...
#994 [14:00] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper: is it your sekrit pornstar name?
#995 [14:00] <sammaelt> me too
#996 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> TIL my pseudonym isn't all that pseudo, but at least I seem to be the only one who uses it.
#997 [14:00] <MrCrashdummy> :S there is a MrCrashdummy on Twitter, that isn't me
#998 [14:00] <MrCrashdummy> @lukegb mine is van der Sexxx
#999 [14:00] <Kealper> lukegb: psh, i have a different name for my pornstar persona
#1000 [14:01] <MrCrashdummy> Kealper let me guess, Replaek?
#1001 [14:01] <Kealper> totally
#1002 [14:01] <sammaelt> MrCrashdummy everytime i see your nick i feel like singing "hey Mr Cab driver" by kravitz
#1003 [14:02] * MrCrashdummy feels suicidal
#1003 [14:02] <sammaelt> sorry :P
#1004 [14:02] <MrCrashdummy> ;)
#1005 [14:04] <Kealper> so anyways
#1006 [14:04] <Kealper> i might get contracted to completely redo a school district's networking over the summer
#1007 [14:05] <MrCrashdummy> Morrolan did you read all the books?
#1008 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> neat.
#1009 [14:05] <Kealper> and possibly stay on-board as one of that district's IT staff
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#1012 [14:05] <MrCrashdummy> Kealper neat.
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#1014 [14:05] <Julius7996> Question: When I hit something ingame I get an instant crash :(
#1015 [14:05] <Morrolan> MrCrashdummy: Nah, only a few of them. Though I plan on reading all of them one day.
#1016 [14:05] <Julius7996> How to fix that?
#1017 [14:06] <Kealper> Julius7996: any mods?
#1018 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> what error do you get in said crash?
#1019 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> Are there any mods installed?
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#1021 [14:06] <Julius7996> yea, but after I've seen that I crash I deleted all out of my mc file
#1022 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> did you delete .minecraft/bin ?
#1023 [14:06] <MrCrashdummy> @Julius7996 try a new world
#1024 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> also, try.. ninja'd
#1025 [14:06] <Julius7996> yes
#1026 [14:07] <MrCrashdummy> even better delete the whole .minecraft folder
#1027 [14:07] <Julius7996> ninja'd?
#1028 [14:07] <MrCrashdummy> but back up the saves
#1029 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy stole my thunder
#1030 [14:07] <Kealper> Julius7996: means someone else typed the same answer faster
#1031 [14:07] <Kealper> .....
#1032 [14:07] <Kealper> like that
#1033 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> any texture packs still installed? Remove those too
#1034 [14:07] <MrCrashdummy> Kealper :D
#1035 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> (some texpax rely on mods)
#1036 [14:07] <MrCrashdummy> I haz to eat gus
#1037 [14:07] <MrCrashdummy> *guys
#1038 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> poor Gus.
#1039 [14:07] <Kealper> lol
#1040 [14:07] <MrCrashdummy> ....
#1041 [14:07] <Julius7996> I also deleted bin and texture packs + mods from my mc file
#1042 [14:07] <MrCrashdummy> !gus
#1043 [14:08] <MrCrashdummy> !wiki gus
#1044 [14:08] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUS
#1045 [14:08] <GreyBot> GUS or Gus may refer to one of the following.
#1046 [14:08] <Kealper> Julius7996: was your "yes" to saying that you have tried new worlds?
#1047 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> Julius7996: okay, and what error do you get when it crashes?
#1048 [14:08] <Julius7996> I crash also in mp
#1049 [14:08] <Julius7996> dunno, its too fast
#1050 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> what OS?
#1051 [14:08] <Julius7996> it dissapearsa after 0.5 secs
#1052 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> and what version of Java?
#1053 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> .5 seconds is long enough to screenshot the error (:
#1054 [14:09] <Kealper> or run it though a console/terminal and just get the error like that :/
#1055 [14:10] <Julius7996> if I deleted the whole mc file would I be able to play then though?
#1056 [14:11] <Julius7996> I mean, to get every files back after i run mc again
#1057 [14:11] <Julius7996> like it is when I delete bin + texture packs
#1058 [14:12] <Oerg866_> <MrCrashdummy> !wiki gus
#1059 [14:12] <Oerg866_> Gravis UltraSound
#1060 [14:12] <Oerg866_> Best shit in the world :V
#1061 [14:12] <Kealper> lol...
#1062 [14:13] <Julius7996> somehow I fixed it :o
#1063 [14:13] <Kealper> O.o
#1064 [14:13] <Kealper> what did you do?
#1065 [14:13] <Julius7996> dunno, really :D
#1066 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> "Followed our instructions."
#1067 [14:14] <Julius7996> I did random things :o
#1068 [14:14] <Julius7996> nah :D
#1069 [14:14] <Julius7996> thanks tho :P
#1070 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> you're.. welcome?
#1071 [14:20] * Kealper just finished poking at registry values
#1071 [14:20] <Kealper> having an Open Command Window Here option when i right click on any folder ftw
#1072 [14:23] <MLoeven> does anyone know if there is a way to compensate for player latency when fighting mobs
#1073 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: you.. didn't have that already?
#1074 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> MLoeven: don't play on dial-up?
#1075 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> or.. use archery (:
#1076 [14:23] <MLoeven> i am playing on cable with about 256 up 2meg down
#1077 [14:23] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: for ages i was just doing the hold-shift and then selecting it
#1078 [14:24] <MLoeven> arrows dont hit because the mob moved before my ballisitcs are sent to the server
#1079 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> Lead more.
#1080 [14:24] <Kealper> MLoeven: when you talk in a server, how long does it take to show your message after you pressed enter?
#1081 [14:24] <MLoeven> depends
#1082 [14:25] <MLoeven> sometimes upwards of 10 sec
#1083 [14:25] <Kealper> on average
#1084 [14:25] <MLoeven> my ping is much lower tho
#1085 [14:25] <MLoeven> so i dont know maby the server hardware is old
#1086 [14:25] <Kealper> and for craps and grins... go do a speed test at http://speedtest.net and then give us the "share result" link after it's done
#1087 [14:25] <Kealper> i know you already said it, but....i want to see the hard proof
#1088 [14:25] <MLoeven> my computer is fine it seems to be a server side thing
#1089 [14:26] <MLoeven> all my other games run fine
#1090 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> for fewer craps and more grins, try not playing on a server hosted through TCP over HAM radio hosted in the People's Democratic Republic of Belgistan
#1091 [14:26] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: speaking of which
#1092 [14:26] <MLoeven> but why cant notch design minecraft so when a player encounters a mob the ai and combat is handed off th the client to perform and the client than sends the result of combat to the server
#1093 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> Race conditions
#1094 [14:27] <m0nk> my friend is washing the insides of his keyboard..
#1095 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> Say several players get aggro on a mob simultaneously in that case.
#1096 [14:27] <Kealper> MLoeven: because then hackers could exploit more
#1097 [14:27] <MLoeven> well you could use timestamps to assign priority
#1098 [14:27] <Kealper> the more stuff that is done server-side, the less stuff that hackers can ruin
#1099 [14:28] <MLoeven> for example a creeper targets a player the server would not commit the explosion untill it checket the timestamp on the players combat actions to be sure that the player didn't kill the creeper
#1100 [14:28] <Kealper> also, has it ever worked correctly for you? because your internet (if that is actually the speeds you say it is) is painfully slow
#1101 [14:28] <MLoeven> ....
#1102 [14:28] <MLoeven> 2 megabytes not megabits
#1103 [14:28] <MLoeven> 256 k upload
#1104 [14:29] <MLoeven> thats not slow
#1105 [14:29] <MLoeven> on my end
#1106 [14:29] <MLoeven> i dont know what connection the server uses tho
#1107 [14:29] <Jos-> another problem with it, is, the creeper sees Player A, and will explode there, but there is Player B next to A, who should also get killed?
#1108 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> yes, for ~10 sec latency means the server is taking that long to handle your packets
#1109 [14:29] <Kealper> MLoeven: try on smp.shadow-craft.net and see if you can talk without lag on there
#1110 [14:29] <MLoeven> yeah ok
#1111 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> Try playing on a server that's not transmitting from Chiron Beta Prime
#1112 [14:30] <MLoeven> ...
#1113 [14:30] <MLoeven> the server i play on is in canada and i live in connecticut it its not even transcontinental
#1114 [14:30] <MLoeven> no farther away than california
#1115 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> Yes, but their poutin-powered router may not be up to the task of running a Minecraft server.
#1116 [14:31] <Kealper> did that shadow-craft server work?
#1117 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> the problems you describe are exactly what a server-throughput problem looks like
#1118 [14:31] <MLoeven> i am using irc throught RDP i am not at my house right now
#1119 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> (That, or stop your pr0n torrents before playing Minecraft)
#1120 [14:31] <MLoeven> remoting my computer through cell ptone
#1121 [14:31] <MLoeven> phone
#1122 [14:32] <MLoeven> a cell phone that has a full keyboard
#1123 [14:32] <Jos-> where do I report bugs?
#1124 [14:32] <MLoeven> :)
#1125 [14:32] <MLoeven> to the exterminator
#1126 [14:32] <Kealper> Jos-: depends on what type of bug it is
#1127 [14:33] <Jos-> well, UX: a space in front of the server-address in SMP is a faulty address. I would say: strip the spaces
#1128 [14:33] <Kealper> Jos-: ahh, i've noticed that too
#1129 [14:33] <MLoeven> thats odd i ping the minecraft server and get a ping of 50
#1130 [14:34] <Kealper> Jos-: you could start a getsatisfaction report on it, if someone has not already
#1131 [14:34] <Kealper> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#1132 [14:34] <Jos-> and there is no real cursor, only end, so I had to retype it
#1133 [14:34] <MLoeven> yet still takes a long time to chat
#1134 [14:34] <Kealper> MLoeven: on shadow-craft or the Canadian one?
#1135 [14:34] <MLoeven> both
#1136 [14:35] <MLoeven> around 30 - 50
#1137 [14:35] <MLoeven> no higher than 100
#1138 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> MLoeven: That is _exactly_ how an overloaded server will behave.
#1139 [14:35] <Kealper> shadow-craft is not overloaded :/
#1140 [14:35] <MLoeven> this happens with 3 players
#1141 [14:35] <Kealper> wait.....
#1142 [14:35] <MLoeven> the number of players doesent seem to affect the behavior
#1143 [14:36] <MLoeven> if anything the server runs better with more people
#1144 [14:36] <Kealper> ok so....since i'm sick today and can barely comprehend anything
#1145 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> MLoeven: are you going to try the other server sometime this week, or what?
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#1147 [14:37] <MLoeven> yes but i cant run minecraft through REMOTE DESKTOP
#1148 [14:37] <MLoeven> i have command line ping but thats it
#1149 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> well, get back to us once you've tested through the other server.
#1150 [14:37] <MLoeven> ok
#1151 [14:37] <MLoeven> later
#1152 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> If it is, as we suspect, a serverside issue, the only solution is to play on a server that's not using more bandwidth than it has.
#1153 [14:37] <Kealper> pings mean jack-crap, a ping does like ...32-64 bytes of data, Minecraft uses that every 0.5ms >.>
#1154 [14:38] <Kealper> dangit
#1155 [14:38] <Kealper> i still think it's probably either his internet or his NIC
#1156 [14:39] <Kealper> so anyways.....
#1157 [14:39] <Kealper> the more i think how Minecraft's net code works, the more i cringe
#1158 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> heh. 'works'.
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#1160 [14:39] <Kealper> lol
#1161 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> Once SSP moves to the same server/client infrastructure, we'll see a lot of optimization here, methinks.
#1162 [14:40] <Kealper> like, if it sends off a full packet for each and every little thing like moving your head slightly, or punching a tree....
#1163 [14:40] <Kealper> then that means that there is atleast 20 bytes of overhead for every little 2 byte packet :/
#1164 [14:42] <Kealper> so if one could consolidate all the little packets and just send them off in clumps every like... 25-50ms or so, you could get rid of a ton of that protocol overhead without a noticable delay :/
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#1166 [14:43] <Kealper> OH GOD THE LATEST NIGHTLY OF FIREFOX FINNALLY SUPPORTS THE GREYED OUT URL WITH JUST THE SITE BLACK
#1167 [14:43] <Kealper> only took them....since Chrome came out to implement it
#1168 [14:43] <_303> Kealper: there have been addons for that for ages
#1169 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> Good think Chromium is OSS
#1170 [14:44] <Kealper> _303: i mean natively doing it, without addons
#1171 [14:44] <Kealper> and yeah, before i switched to the nightly builds, i had an addon that did it
#1172 [14:44] <DopeGhoti> (People still use Fx after the advent of Chrome?)
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#1174 [14:44] <Kealper> i've always been a Fx fanboy, i've just never liked Chrome :/
#1175 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> After several point Fx releases not fixing a memory leak causing it to use GiBs of swap space, I grabbed the first alpha of Chrome that I heard about and haven't looked back.
#1176 [14:45] <Kealper> and the nightlies have been stupid-retarded-awesomely fast, and stable...i can count the times it has crashed on one hand since i started using them last year
#1177 [14:46] <Andy-chan> Sooi11: Is your problem fixed yet?
#1178 [14:46] <Kealper> i don't get what everyone is on about with the memory usage...i've never seen Fx use tons of memory unless it was something dumb like a leak in Flash
#1179 [14:47] <Kealper> it's sitting here with three pinned tabs and one normal tab and it's using less than 100mb of ram for me :/
#1180 [14:47] <Andy-chan> Firefox does use a ton of memory but it tends to be related because the user uses tons of plugins.
#1181 [14:47] <Kealper> ^
#1182 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> I gots Chrome, I like Chrome; I keep Fx around but never use it (:
#1183 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> (and since I never use it, I don't have a ton of extensions installed either)
#1184 [14:47] <Kealper> weird
#1185 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> and it still uses empirically more memory
#1186 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> Does Fx sandbox each tab yet?
#1187 [14:48] <Kealper> psh, don't ask that much of Fx lol
#1188 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> also, <3 Chrome's console
#1189 [14:49] <Kealper> but to each their own, i still give people the option of using either Fx or Chrome when i fix their computer...i'll show them each and they pick the one they like the best lol
#1190 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> same here. "Which non-IE browser would you like? Chrome, Fx, Op, or elinks?"
#1191 [14:49] <Kealper> XD
#1192 [14:50] <NotiCon> fx?
#1193 [14:50] <Kealper> i don't usually give people the option of using Opera, it's far too....heavy...
#1194 [14:50] <Kealper> Firefox
#1195 [14:50] <NotiCon> never heard it as being fx
#1196 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> NotiCon: Canonical abbreviation for Fire fox.
#1197 [14:50] <Andy-chan> Of course links and elinks! :D
#1198 [14:50] <Kealper> (Mozilla even said it themselves, Firefox is abbriviated as Fx)
#1199 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> s/e f/ef/
#1200 [14:51] <Julius7996> So: When I wanna install Texture Packs and going ingame then and when I hit then any things - I crash.
#1201 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> easier on the eyes than 'FF', though 'FF' is a more intuitive shorthand, to be frank.
#1202 [14:51] <Kealper> also, this link you gave me could result in AuBot actually checking if it's a MC server
#1203 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> Julius7996: clearly you are using bad texture packs.
#1204 [14:51] <Kealper> not bad texture packs
#1205 [14:52] <Kealper> texture packs that require a mod to be used right, they are not stock-sized ones
#1206 [14:52] <Julius7996> B-b-b-ut I deleted the bin and texture packs folder :<
#1207 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: like I said, bad texture packs.
#1208 [14:52] <Kealper> bah lol
#1209 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> If you need a mod to use your texture pack, You Are Doing It Wrong.
#1210 [14:52] <Julius7996> I've got Misas
#1211 [14:52] <Julius7996> and I used it always
#1212 [14:53] <_303> you need the hd patcher to use hd tex packs
#1213 [14:53] <Julius7996> I do
#1214 [14:53] <Julius7996> have it already
#1215 [14:53] <_303> how does it crash? any other mods?
#1216 [14:53] <Julius7996> no
#1217 [14:53] <Julius7996> I deleted all..
#1218 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> Then clearly that's the mod that's crashing things
#1219 [14:54] <Julius7996> in my .minecraft oder are right now: save, stats and resources
#1220 [14:54] <Andy-chan> Gaaaah...I accidently broke the glass block that stores lava of my lighthouse...
#1221 [14:54] <Andy-chan> And everything just leaked to the first floor.
#1222 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> Andy-chan: put it back! put it back!
#1223 [14:55] <Andy-chan> Sometimes I regret using this Fluid plugin! But it's so much fun!
#1224 [14:55] <Julius7996> Listen, I deleted everything. And joined without mods and without texture packs. - Everything worked fine
#1225 [14:56] <Julius7996> but after I installed the texture pack, It crashes after I hit smth
#1226 [14:56] <Kealper> wait...wait...
#1227 [14:56] <Andy-chan> Then what's wrong with this conclusion: <DopeGhoti> Then clearly that's the mod that's crashing things
#1228 [14:56] <Julius7996> :o
#1229 [14:56] <Kealper> are you using the mcpatcher thing to allow for an hd texture pack?
#1230 [14:56] <Julius7996> yes
#1231 [14:57] <Kealper> then you're doing it wrong
#1232 [14:57] <Kealper> literally
#1233 [14:57] <Julius7996> :o
#1234 [14:57] <Kealper> i have no idea how the latest hd texture fixes work, but the old one would have you select the size of the texture pack you were going to use
#1235 [14:57] <Julius7996> it tells me automaticly
#1236 [14:57] <m0nk> i used the hd mod pack and i couldn't even start mc
#1237 [14:58] <Kealper> then it's wrong, stop using it
#1238 [14:58] <m0nk> deleted it - everything was working
#1239 [14:58] <Julius7996> :o
#1240 [14:58] <Julius7996> but I used it always, it just crashes now
#1241 [14:58] <Kealper> we don't give support for mods in this channel, so if a mod is causing the crash, sorry but you're outta luck
#1242 [14:58] <Julius7996> :(
#1243 [14:59] <Julius7996> k
#1244 [14:59] <Kealper> (if you want support for it, try #risucraft )
#1245 [14:59] <Kealper> now....
#1246 [14:59] * Kealper goes back to working on functions to convert big endian binary to little, and back again
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#1247 [15:02] <MrCrashdummy> Hi fellows
#1248 [15:02] <Kealper> rawr
#1249 [15:04] <MrCrashdummy> Could some one tell me how to make a succesful mob trap?
#1250 [15:04] * Kealper has never bothered with trying that
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#1251 [15:05] * MrCrashdummy sighs
#1251 [15:05] <Oerg866_>
#1252 [15:06] <MrCrashdummy> sorry?
#1253 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> Oerg866_: could you speak up?
#1254 [15:07] <Oerg866_> wtf that actually came through? o_o;
#1255 [15:08] <Oerg866_> i hit space bar and then enter ... XD
#1256 [15:08] <MrCrashdummy> nothin
#1257 [15:08] <MrCrashdummy> ;)
#1258 [15:08] <MrCrashdummy> do you have a question?
#1259 [15:08] <Oerg866_> Not really ...
#1260 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> well, hi
#1261 [15:08] <Oerg866_> Well, there's one question, but i am not sure it goes in this channel:
#1262 [15:08] <Oerg866_> Can I somehow
#1263 [15:08] <MrCrashdummy> we'll see
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#1265 [15:08] <Oerg866_> protect chests
#1266 [15:09] <Oerg866_> like back then I am not sure how it was called
#1267 [15:09] <MrCrashdummy> for a server?
#1268 [15:09] <Oerg866_> but it was something really neat when players aside you could not look inside your chests
#1269 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> well, if you have them near the spawn area, only ops can use them
#1270 [15:09] <Oerg866_> yes for a server
#1271 [15:09] <MrCrashdummy> Vanilla?\
#1272 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> other than that.. hide them well.
#1273 [15:09] <Kealper> it has to be a modded server
#1274 [15:09] <Oerg866_> yes i know
#1275 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> or a server without jerks
#1276 [15:09] <Oerg866_> thats why i wasnt sure whether to asked here
#1277 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1278 [15:09] <MrCrashdummy> if your server uses Bukkit or Canary I suggest LWC
#1279 [15:09] <Oerg866_> Well it does not have jerks (yet)
#1280 [15:10] <Oerg866_> yes it has bukkit 740
#1281 [15:10] <MrCrashdummy> LWC
#1282 [15:10] <MrCrashdummy> for sure
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#1284 [15:10] <Oerg866_> MrCrashDummy: thank you :)
#1285 [15:10] <MrCrashdummy> no problem ;)
#1286 [15:10] <Kealper> there is a different one that i can't remember the name to that i liked more than LWC
#1287 [15:11] <Kealper> it used signs instead of commands, and was just all-around easier to use
#1288 [15:11] <MrCrashdummy> No, signs commands dont work any more
#1289 [15:11] <Kealper> this was just working in a 1.5_02 server
#1290 [15:11] <Kealper> but it was not my server, so i don't know what it was called
#1291 [15:11] <MrCrashdummy> Really? That's cool. I was in the #canary channel an hour ago and they said that Notch changed how signs work
#1292 [15:12] <MrCrashdummy> For instance sign trade doesn't work any more
#1293 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> not in any releases that I have seen
#1294 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> that means the mod is broken, not that signs have changes.
#1295 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> er, changed.
#1296 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> (for example, mapping tools have not had to change sign parsing in a _long_ time)
#1297 [15:13] <MrCrashdummy> I'm quite sure they said that the whole sign code changed
#1298 [15:13] <MrCrashdummy> Dope: are you a modder?
#1299 [15:13] <MrCrashdummy> You don't mind me calling you Dope do you?
#1300 [15:13] <Kealper> Oerg866_: http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/sec-lockette-v1-3-7-simple-chest-and-door-lock-no-databases-561-740.4336/
#1301 [15:14] <xolotl> MrCrashdummy: Use your tab-completion
#1302 [15:14] <Kealper> Lockette was the name of it
#1303 [15:14] <MrCrashdummy> no, dont use lockete
#1304 [15:14] <MrCrashdummy> no no no
#1305 [15:14] <Oerg866_> Kealper: I watched that and it locks it for the owner too which is what i dont want
#1306 [15:14] <Kealper> no it doesn't
#1307 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> No, and no, but I do use tools to create http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com
#1308 [15:14] <MrCrashdummy> xolotl: could you please say that again, I have no idea what you are talking about
#1309 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> among other things
#1310 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> but my server is strictly vanilla
#1311 [15:14] <Kealper> i was playing around with it like last week on someone else's server, and it was quite nice....
#1312 [15:15] <xolotl> MrCrashdummy: Type dope<tab>, or probably even just d<tab>
#1313 [15:15] <Oerg866_> ok
#1314 [15:15] <xolotl> MrCrashdummy: It'll autofill the rest of the nick for you
#1315 [15:15] <Oerg866_> i'll take a look at both then
#1316 [15:15] <Oerg866_> thanks for the suggestoin :D
#1317 [15:15] <MrCrashdummy> xolotl: thanks :D
#1318 [15:15] <Kealper> place sign in front of thing you want locked, type only [Private] in the first line of the sign, and boom, only you can open it
#1319 [15:15] <MrCrashdummy> Kealper, with LWC you can even make it public, set a password
#1320 [15:15] <Kealper> add other usernames to the sign to allow specific other people (or group names) to have access to it :/
#1321 [15:15] <MrCrashdummy> or even that only one group may open it
#1322 [15:16] <MrCrashdummy> ow shit: DopeGhoti did you make that? I really need a tool like that ;D
#1323 [15:16] <Feranis> I don't suppose anyone is familiar with a bug that would make groups of placed bookshelves vanish a while later?
#1324 [15:16] <MrCrashdummy> Feranis: on a server?
#1325 [15:16] <Feranis> Yeah.
#1326 [15:17] <MrCrashdummy> are you an OP?
#1327 [15:17] <Kealper> arn't bookshelves flamable?
#1328 [15:17] <Feranis> I am.
#1329 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> Feranis: I had some bookshelves just disappear on 1.2 and 1.3, but not on 1.5
#1330 [15:17] <MrCrashdummy> Feranis: hm... is it within the 16 block spawn protection?
#1331 [15:18] <Feranis> It's only in one location, as well. And it seems to take as many as are touching one another out from that area.
#1332 [15:18] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: could you explain to me how to use your tool?
#1333 [15:18] <Feranis> Not close to spawn.
#1334 [15:18] <MrCrashdummy> Feranis: I have no idea, sorry...
#1335 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: you run a script that analyzes the map and optionally extrapolated biome info, and it renders google-map-API-compatible tiles
#1336 [15:19] <MrCrashdummy> Feranis: maybe just lag?
#1337 [15:19] <Feranis> I was thinking of tossing some screenshots up on the forum.
#1338 [15:19] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: w
#1339 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> copy resultant output to web host, enjoy
#1340 [15:19] <MrCrashdummy> Where can iI download it?
#1341 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> a moment..
#1342 [15:19] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: And also, do I need a website then?
#1343 [15:19] <Feranis> They disappear something like an hour or two later. Never when I'm nearby, so it might be some kind of chunk loading issue.
#1344 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: primary repo is here: https://github.com/brownan/Minecraft-Overviewer
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#1346 [15:20] <MrCrashdummy> Feranis: isnt it just some one burning them?
#1347 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> and yes, you'll ned a webhost to host the files, and a server with some CPU time to kill to render the map
#1348 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> incremental updates are (relatively) quick
#1349 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> but the first render takes forever
#1350 [15:20] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: Hm.. never mind then, I don't have a website
#1351 [15:21] <Feranis> No one else on the server at the time it happens, it's a small one. There's some lava not far away but it's entirely encased in glass and I've not had issues with similar arrangements elsewhere.
#1352 [15:21] <Kealper> there is something called the south-west rule, with Minecraft
#1353 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: well, it makes the site for you; you just need the hosting.
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#1355 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: yes, there is.
#1356 [15:22] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: erm... I dont get it.
#1357 [15:22] <MrCrashdummy> Kealper: not for book thing right?
#1358 [15:22] <Kealper> said rule is basically that there is a bug and one of the effects of said bug is lava can burn though the south-west side of an encasement
#1359 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: the program creates the site. You copy the files it spits out onto your web hosting's filespace
#1360 [15:22] <Feranis> The lava isn't adjacent. It's like, four blocks away from any shelves I've placed. Would that be too close?
#1361 [15:22] <MrCrashdummy> Kealper: Only for stairs and minecarrail
#1362 [15:23] <Kealper> MrCrashdummy: it affects every block
#1363 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: that's a different S/W rule; Kealper is technically talking about the N/E rule (:
#1364 [15:23] <Kealper> oh
#1365 [15:23] <Kealper> whatever
#1366 [15:23] <MrCrashdummy> ookshelf Bookshelves contain North-South striations like planks, as well as 9 additional dark spots. Of these 5 are on the South side and create an "arrow" pointing North.
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#1368 [15:24] <Cessecool> hello!
#1369 [15:24] <Kealper> i'm sick, so crap i say should be taken with a grain of salt right now >.>
#1370 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> morning, Cessecool
#1371 [15:24] <Cessecool> I need some help.
#1372 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#1373 [15:24] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1374 [15:24] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1375 [15:24] <MrCrashdummy> Ah the N/e rule
#1376 [15:24] <Cessecool> My minecraft says im not premium
#1377 [15:24] <Cessecool> but i have bought the game
#1378 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> what is your account name?
#1379 [15:24] <MrCrashdummy> d
#1380 [15:24] <Cessecool> Cessecool
#1381 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> !paid Cessecool
#1382 [15:24] <Cessecool> what?
#1383 [15:24] <Kealper> how long ago did you buy it?
#1384 [15:24] <Cessecool> >.<
#1385 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> how long ago did you make the purchase?
#1386 [15:24] <Cessecool> i have payed for it
#1387 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> and with what means?
#1388 [15:24] <Cessecool> eeeh just after it went to beta
#1389 [15:25] <Cessecool> so i had to pay more
#1390 [15:25] <MrCrashdummy> !MrCrashdummy
#1391 [15:25] <MrCrashdummy> !paid MrCrashdummy
#1392 [15:25] <MrCrashdummy> <3
#1393 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> okay.. you should still have the payment confirmation from PayPal or your bank?
#1394 [15:25] <MrCrashdummy> d
#1395 [15:25] <MrCrashdummy> Argh
#1396 [15:25] <MrCrashdummy> I have this lag...
#1397 [15:25] <Cessecool> eeeh...i guess
#1398 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> email payment@mojang.com with your account name and that confirmation
#1399 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> also, log into minecraft.net and look on the profile page
#1400 [15:25] <Cessecool> i probably have the mail from mojang somewhere
#1401 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> if you don't have the mail from Mojang, you should be able to get a confirmnation number from PayPal or from your bank.
#1402 [15:26] <Cessecool> !paid ccool
#1403 [15:26] <Cessecool> derp
#1404 [15:26] <Cessecool> problem solved
#1405 [15:26] <Cessecool> thanks alot
#1406 [15:26] <Kealper> ._.
#1407 [15:27] <MrCrashdummy> O.o
#1408 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> helps to use the right account name (:
#1409 [15:27] <MrCrashdummy> :D
#1410 [15:27] <MrCrashdummy> !wiki fail
#1411 [15:27] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failure
#1412 [15:27] <GreyBot> Failure refers to the state or condition of not meeting a desirable or intended objective, and may be viewed as the opposite of success. Product failure ranges from failure to sell the product to fracture of the product, in the worst cases leading to personal injury, the province of forensic engineering.
#1413 [15:27] <Cessecool> oh well
#1414 [15:27] <Cessecool> thanks anyways
#1415 [15:27] <Cessecool> jesus
#1416 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> that'll be $8 (:
#1417 [15:27] * Feranis titters.
#1417 [15:27] <Steve[cug]> Demon https://github.com/SteveMcGrath/bukget/blob/master/bukget.py
#1418 [15:27] <Kealper> ..... !wiki i'll kick you if you keep doing that
#1419 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> ??>> MrCrashdummy irc/bots
#1420 [15:27] <MrCrashdummy> Soz, why did they make the !wiki thing?
#1421 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> you'd have to ask Jimmy Wales
#1422 [15:28] <MrCrashdummy> It's too tempting ;)
#1423 [15:28] <Steve[cug]> anyway....2:30 and I havent eaten yet today...i need a break
#1424 [15:28] <Steve[cug]> :-p
#1425 [15:28] <MrCrashdummy> ciao
#1426 [15:29] <MrCrashdummy> h
#1427 [15:29] <MrCrashdummy> where can I see the commands?
#1428 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> ??>> MrCrashdummy help
#1429 [15:29] <MrCrashdummy> I used /help
#1430 [15:29] <Kealper> "A message longer than 119 characters will cause the Beta (≥1.5) server and client to crash. " :/
#1431 [15:29] <MrCrashdummy> xD
#1432 [15:29] <MrCrashdummy> really?
#1433 [15:29] <MrCrashdummy> Hm... some sort of TwitteR?
#1434 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: that from the protocol spec?
#1435 [15:30] <Kealper> yeah
#1436 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> the client should not send a message that long
#1437 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> hence the message cutoff
#1438 [15:30] <Kealper> explains why the server truncates a say command with a ton of text now
#1439 [15:30] <Kealper> yeah, the client can only send like 100 chars
#1440 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> it should split it into several lines IMO
#1441 [15:31] <Kealper> nope, completely cuts off the end of a large say command and only sends the first part
#1442 [15:31] <MrCrashdummy> ...
#1443 [15:32] <Kealper> used to send the whole thing, so i assume they switched chat message length to like... one byte instead of two
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#1445 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> like I said, should, not does. As in, feature request.
#1446 [15:33] <Kealper> oh lol
#1447 [15:34] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: Could you explain to me what the difference is between a website and web hosting filespace?
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#1450 [15:34] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: I'm kind of a noob at that topic ;)
#1451 [15:34] <Kealper> the login and handshake packets are documented in a very crappy way, but meh, time to start experimenting
#1452 [15:36] <MrCrashdummy> k
#1453 [15:37] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: ?
#1454 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: A web site is simply a bunch of files. A web host is where those files live, and is the server to which an IP address, and hopefully a domain name, will point
#1455 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> the webhost's file spece is where the files that comprise the web site will be put.
#1456 [15:37] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: ah okay, so actually every one can make a website but for other people to be able to see it I need to have a web host?
#1457 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> The site is a book; the file space is a bookshelf, and the host is a library.
#1458 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> exactly
#1459 [15:38] <MrCrashdummy> Too bad..
#1460 [15:38] <Steve[cug]> mmm....chili
#1461 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> how's that? There are plenty of free web hosts out there
#1462 [15:38] <MrCrashdummy> I really liked your tool tho ;)
#1463 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> not many will give you 5GiB of space though
#1464 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> (that's how large my map is presently)
#1465 [15:38] <MrCrashdummy> ;)
#1466 [15:39] <MrCrashdummy> Hm... my map is not that big yet
#1467 [15:39] <MrCrashdummy> Any suggestions of a free web host?
#1468 [15:39] <NotiCon> DopeGhoti: the rendered version of your map is 5g?
#1469 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> Yes, including all the tiles for all zoom levels
#1470 [15:40] <MrCrashdummy> Any suggestions of a free web host?
#1471 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> well..
#1472 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> 6.8G total
#1473 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> as of today (:
#1474 [15:40] <Kealper> lol
#1475 [15:40] <NotiCon> D:
#1476 [15:40] <Kealper> what zoom level does yours go to?
#1477 [15:40] <Steve[cug]> MrCrashdummy: sorry man, no one that I would put my name behind :-p
#1478 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: look for yourself
#1479 [15:40] <Kealper> bah
#1480 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/
#1481 [15:41] <Steve[cug]> DopeGhoti: using overviewer?
#1482 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> (protop: actually looking at my map to get the answer for you with the VP of Operations in the same room as me would probably be a Bad Idea.)
#1483 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> Steve[cug]: yes, as mentioned upchannel (:
#1484 [15:41] <MrCrashdummy> did you guys know this: herobrine.co
#1485 [15:41] <MrCrashdummy> www.herobrine.co
#1486 [15:42] <Kealper> that is the stupidest thing i've seen all day
#1487 [15:42] <Andy-chan> Daaamnit...First the lava and now I killed myself by jumping off the lighthouse because I was trying to catch a block resource...
#1488 [15:42] <MrCrashdummy> the herobrine thing?
#1489 [15:42] <Kealper> yes
#1490 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> Andy-chan: the good news is that gravity still works.
#1491 [15:43] <MrCrashdummy> Any suggestions of a free web host?
#1492 [15:43] <Kealper> no free web host is going to let you do what you need to
#1493 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: well, with hosts, you get what you pay for, but I can recommend an inexpensive one.
#1494 [15:43] <Kealper> those types of maps suck up bandwidth and storage space
#1495 [15:43] <MrCrashdummy> ok which one?
#1496 [15:43] <Steve[cug]> ive just been using dynmap
#1497 [15:43] <Steve[cug]> http://minecraft.cugnet.net:8123/
#1498 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: https://allgamer.net/clients/aff.php?aff=061
#1499 [15:44] <MrCrashdummy> thanks
#1500 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: cheers
#1501 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> (use that link and we both get discounts)
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#1503 [15:45] <MrCrashdummy> I need the webhosting thing right?
#1504 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> That's what I'd reccomend
#1505 [15:48] <MrCrashdummy> Hm... how much Gig?
#1506 [15:48] <m0nk> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/361022/290649780.jpg
#1507 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> well, how large is your map savefile?
#1508 [15:49] <MrCrashdummy> m0nk xD lmao
#1509 [15:49] <m0nk> :D
#1510 [15:49] <m0nk> notice the likes..
#1511 [15:50] <MrCrashdummy> :D
#1512 [15:50] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: 7.1 mb
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#1514 [15:51] <m0nk> how much is 2 stacks of wheat worth in glass?
#1515 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> m0nk: what.
#1516 [15:51] <m0nk> i'm trading
#1517 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> wheat is free, glass costs sand.
#1518 [15:51] <m0nk> wheat for glass
#1519 [15:51] <MrCrashdummy> wheat costs a hoe
#1520 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> one is infinitely renewable with nearly zero effort
#1521 [15:51] <MrCrashdummy> hm.
#1522 [15:51] <MrCrashdummy> true
#1523 [15:52] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: 7.1 mb
#1524 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: I'd start with at least a half-GiB or so
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#1526 [15:52] <Steve[cug]> DopeGhoti: I agree.
#1527 [15:52] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: since 1 is the least
#1528 [15:53] <MrCrashdummy> I want AllGamer, LLC to register a new domain for me. I want to transfer my domain to AllGamer, LLC I will update my nameservers on an existing domain Or I will register a new domain.
#1529 [15:54] <MrCrashdummy> what
#1530 [15:54] <MrCrashdummy> should i take?
#1531 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> do you already have a domain name?
#1532 [15:54] <MrCrashdummy> no
#1533 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> then you need one. You can buy it yourself elsewhere, or have AG handle it for you
#1534 [15:55] <MrCrashdummy> What do you think is best?
#1535 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> I'd buy it myself, but I know what I'm doing
#1536 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> I cannot make this decision for you.
#1537 [15:56] <MrCrashdummy> What is the easiest? The best for a lazy dude
#1538 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> that'd be having AG buy it for you
#1539 [15:57] <MrCrashdummy> wait, that will cost me extra? buying a domain?
#1540 [15:58] <MrCrashdummy> above the 2,50
#1541 [15:58] <Steve[cug]> it would just be a pain in the ass down the road if you leave AG to get it moved
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#1543 [15:58] <Steve[cug]> MrCrashdummy: yessir
#1544 [15:58] <Steve[cug]> domains arent free :-p
#1545 [15:58] <DopeGhoti> Buying things usually does mean costing money.
#1546 [15:58] <MrCrashdummy> yes, but I mean above the 2,50?
#1547 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: yes, you buy a domain typically for a duration measured in years
#1548 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> for example; I just renewed hfbgaming.com last night.
#1549 [16:00] <Steve[cug]> yeah and I picked up cugnet.net and bukget.org for 10yrs
#1550 [16:00] <MrCrashdummy> how much will the domain cost me, and will i then also have a regular website?
#1551 [16:01] <MrCrashdummy> or is it just that map
#1552 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> Steve[cug]: I have to say, dynmap looks kind of.. spare. Though I bet it renders more quickly and with less HD usage (:
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#1554 [16:02] <Steve[cug]> DopeGhoti: yeah it's realtime
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#1556 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> Steve[cug]: Neat. Plugin-y?
#1557 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> or will it run on a vanilla server?
#1558 [16:02] <Steve[cug]> DopeGhoti: its a bukkit plugin
#1559 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> I wouldn't mind having the 'clock' you have
#1560 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> ah
#1561 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> phooey
#1562 [16:02] <Steve[cug]> :-p
#1563 [16:03] <MrCrashdummy> that clock is awesome
#1564 [16:03] <Steve[cug]> yeah
#1565 [16:03] <MrCrashdummy> how much will the domain cost me, and will i then also have a regular website?
#1566 [16:03] <Steve[cug]> MrCrashdummy: domain cost depends on the type of domain and where you get it
#1567 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> I don't know what AG charges for domain registration
#1568 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> if you shop around, depending on the domain, they can be had pretty cheaply
#1569 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> particularly obscure CCTLDs
#1570 [16:04] <Kealper> the .info TLD is usually quite cheap
#1571 [16:04] <linarish> ..
#1572 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> indeed, I got a .info domain for $3 or so
#1573 [16:04] <linarish> I am sooo bad.
#1574 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> "How bad are you?"
#1575 [16:04] * Kealper headtilts
#1575 [16:05] <Steve[cug]> yeah. i typically just stick with godaddy cause it's where all my other domains are
#1576 [16:05] <linarish> ..
#1577 [16:05] <MrCrashdummy> 1 year costs me 15 euros
#1578 [16:05] <Steve[cug]> makes it nice to have everything in 1 place
#1579 [16:05] <linarish> So bad I make hitler seem good.
#1580 [16:05] <MrCrashdummy> dollars soz
#1581 [16:06] <MrCrashdummy> that looks kind of expensive to me
#1582 [16:06] <Kealper> it all depends on the TLD you get
#1583 [16:06] <MrCrashdummy> !wiki TLD
#1584 [16:06] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-level_domain
#1585 [16:06] <GreyBot> A top-level domain (TLD) is one of the domains at the highest level in the hierarchical Domain Name System of the Internet. The top-level domain names are installed in the root zone of the name space. For all domains in lower levels, it is the last part of the domain name, that is, the last label of a fully qualified domain name. For example, in the domain name
#1586 [16:06] <GreyBot> www.example.com, the top-level domain is .com, or .COM, as domain names are not case-sensitive. Management of most top-level domains is delegated to responsible organizations by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), which operates the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) and is in charge of maintaining the DNS root zone.
#1587 [16:06] <Kealper> and a TLD is the things like .com, .net, .org, .me,,, etc
#1588 [16:06] <Kealper> ...................
#1589 [16:06] <MrCrashdummy> that wasnt abuse...
#1590 [16:06] <Kealper> if someone types !wiki again i'm kicking them
#1591 [16:06] <MrCrashdummy> ...
#1592 [16:06] <Steve[cug]> MrCrashdummy: http://www.godaddy.com/domains/search.aspx?ci=8990
#1593 [16:07] <Steve[cug]> .info == $1.99
#1594 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: for once it was genuinely relevant if ey did not know what 'TLD' meant.
#1595 [16:07] <Kealper> yeah but it still annoys the crap out of me >.>
#1596 [16:07] <Steve[cug]> I would just pick up a 10yr for $15, but thats just me
#1597 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: what are the odds we can have GreyBot give the !wiki output via PM to the queruer by default?
#1598 [16:08] <Kealper> lol if you bought a domain name for 10 years, you'd better be sure you picked a name you won't hate for a long time
#1599 [16:08] <MrCrashdummy> to go back to my other question, will i als o have a regular webistie with it
#1600 [16:08] <MrCrashdummy> or just that map?
#1601 [16:08] <Kealper> it would be a webserver, so you could put anything on it
#1602 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: you can certainly have a regular site on the same host.
#1603 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> that's what directories and subdomains are for (:
#1604 [16:08] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: awesome!
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#1606 [16:10] <MrCrashdummy> I think I'm going to buy one saterday
#1607 [16:10] <MrCrashdummy> *satur
#1608 [16:11] <MrCrashdummy> But im off guys
#1609 [16:12] <MrCrashdummy> thanks for the sweet goodbe
#1610 [16:12] <MrCrashdummy> *bye
#1611 [16:12] <MrCrashdummy> ;)
#1612 [16:12] <Kealper> wow...uhh...maybe having that write all the data it recieved from the server to the console was a bad idea
#1613 [16:12] <MrCrashdummy> adios
#1614 [16:12] <Kealper> i just filled the console up with a bunch of random binary dataspam :/
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#1616 [16:15] <NotiCon> mmm random binary dataspam
#1617 [16:15] <NotiCon> nothing quite like it
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#1619 [16:18] <ClassiestMedic> Hi! Just a question about a huge screenie
#1620 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: mmm, tcpdump
#1621 [16:19] <ClassiestMedic> I took one of those big-ass Shift+F2 screenshots, which takes a two gigabyte .tga screenie, but I want to make it into a .png and upload it, but no image editing program I have can handle it. Help?
#1622 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> imagemagick.
#1623 [16:20] <ClassiestMedic> Thanks!
#1624 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> Cheers!
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#1626 [16:21] <Kealper> does imagemagick actually not die trying to handle that massive of a screenshot? lol
#1627 [16:21] <ClassiestMedic> We'll see!
#1628 [16:21] <Kealper> lol
#1629 [16:22] <ClassiestMedic> Dowwwwwnloading
#1630 [16:22] <Oerg866_> oops
#1631 [16:22] <Kealper> the only program i have been able to open one of those in is Paint.NET, but it is so slow with that size of an image that it's almost unusable
#1632 [16:22] <Oerg866_> i'm in a bit of need of help
#1633 [16:22] <ClassiestMedic> I tried Paint.NET
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#1635 [16:22] <Oerg866_> Ever since today i cannot use TNT on my server anymore
#1636 [16:22] <ClassiestMedic> What did you do?
#1637 [16:22] <Kealper> what happens when you do?
#1638 [16:22] <Oerg866_> changes just get reverted for some reason
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#1640 [16:23] <Kealper> running any mods?
#1641 [16:23] <Oerg866_> Yes
#1642 [16:23] <Oerg866_> but only thing i did is setting up groups correctly
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#1644 [16:23] <Kealper> are you running one that protects from TNT? lol
#1645 [16:23] <Oerg866_> Yes i did but i disabled that and it still happens
#1646 [16:23] <Oerg866_> well its not really that
#1647 [16:23] <Kealper> then it's not disabled :/
#1648 [16:23] <ClassiestMedic> Check your settings again
#1649 [16:23] <Oerg866_> Kealper: I DELETED it :P
#1650 [16:23] <armalite> anyone else have problem with the sound?
#1651 [16:23] <Kealper> oh, fair enough
#1652 [16:23] <Oerg866_> it's "Big Brother", which lets you undo griefs
#1653 [16:24] <Kealper> armalite: what sort of problem?
#1654 [16:24] <armalite> it was working last night now no minecraft sounds are working
#1655 [16:24] <Kealper> OS?
#1656 [16:24] <ClassiestMedic> MC sounds work for me
#1657 [16:24] <ClassiestMedic> Unless there's an update, armalite, it's your computer's fault
#1658 [16:25] <Kealper> armalite: what operating system are you using?
#1659 [16:25] <armalite> so should i force update
#1660 [16:25] <armalite> ?
#1661 [16:25] <ClassiestMedic> Probably you don't need to
#1662 [16:26] <ClassiestMedic> About to open my huge screenie! Wish me luck!
#1663 [16:26] <armalite> well i eman ive rebooted andall others sounds are fine its jsut minecraft
#1664 [16:26] <Kealper> it's probably muted in the sound settings, but i can't tell you how to unmute it if i don't know what operating system you are using....
#1665 [16:26] <ClassiestMedic> Annnnnd crash
#1666 [16:26] <Oerg866_> I think i know what the problem is Kealper with my TNT... It only seems to reverted when it is near rails
#1667 [16:26] <Kealper> ClassiestMedic: there is a reason why Notch gave up on that lol
#1668 [16:27] <ClassiestMedic> e_e
#1669 [16:27] <Oerg866_> but thats exactly want to blow up (my old subway)
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#1671 [16:27] <ClassiestMedic> I knowwww but it's so COOL
#1672 [16:27] <armalite> acer apire 4720Z
#1673 [16:27] <Kealper> not...what i meant
#1674 [16:27] <armalite> 32 bit operating
#1675 [16:27] <Kealper> what version of windows?
#1676 [16:27] <armalite> vista
#1677 [16:27] <Oerg866_> ^ theres your problem
#1678 [16:27] <Kealper> that's the operating system lol
#1679 [16:27] <ClassiestMedic> xD
#1680 [16:28] <Kealper> ok then, see the little speaker in the bottom right of your screen? it will be next to the time
#1681 [16:28] <armalite> yup nothing is mutedthere
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#1683 [16:28] <armalite> already checked that
#1684 [16:28] <Kealper> have you checked in your minecraft settings to make sure that the game is not muted from there?
#1685 [16:29] <armalite> yup
#1686 [16:29] <Kealper> hmm...
#1687 [16:29] <Kealper> try the Force Update option then
#1688 [16:30] <Oerg866_> Kealper so.... the rails are the problem :(
#1689 [16:30] <armalite> got it, just needed to reupdate java
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#1694 [16:36] <Mly> I've found a way to supposedly get minecraft premium accounts for free. Is this legitimate and legal?: http://www.minecraft-wiki.com/free/
#1695 [16:36] <AG_Scott> More than likely no.
#1696 [16:37] <Blackthorne> What would cause grass to change colour in minecraft?
#1697 [16:37] <Mly> Apparently the biome is related to that, from what I've heard.
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#1699 [16:38] <Mly> Unless it's some wacky color like red or purple, in which case your game is glitched.
#1700 [16:38] <muffins558> help please
#1701 [16:38] <muffins558> i have a craftbukkit server and my bro cant join it but before i made it he could join my normal minecraft server how come he cant join my craft bukkit one?
#1702 [16:39] <relsqui> sorry, we don't support mods in here--try #bukkit or #risucraft
#1703 [16:39] <Blackthorne> It was a forest biome then I burned all the trees down.
#1704 [16:39] <Blackthorne> And now the grass has gone to the same colour as a snow biome.
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#1706 [16:40] <linarish> ..
#1707 [16:40] <linarish> Dead grass prob.
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#1709 [16:40] <Polymorphic> Is this mchelp?
#1710 [16:40] <linarish> mhm
#1711 [16:40] <Polymorphic> oh yep, neverminds
#1712 [16:40] <linarish> Tell us your problem and we'll help.
#1713 [16:40] <linarish> Why?
#1714 [16:40] <linarish> #minecraft for the chat.
#1715 [16:40] <linarish> But its mostly dead.
#1716 [16:40] <linarish> 637, but not most talk.
#1717 [16:40] <Polymorphic> I have a graphics question :)
#1718 [16:41] <linarish> Mhm?
#1719 [16:41] <JasonBeee> hey
#1720 [16:41] <linarish> If you do not like the graphics of the game, you can personally change with texture packs.
#1721 [16:41] <JasonBeee> on this server, liquids don't place unless 3 blocks above
#1722 [16:41] <JasonBeee> anyone ever heard of that glitch?
#1723 [16:41] <linarish> ..
#1724 [16:41] <linarish> Nope.
#1725 [16:41] <Polymorphic> I have a bunch of custom textures but don't want to replace the originals, how do I add a texture pack?
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#1727 [16:41] <linarish> Do you have a texture patcher?
#1728 [16:41] <Polymorphic> so that I can open the textures window and switch it
#1729 [16:41] <Polymorphic> uhm. . .no. . .
#1730 [16:42] <linarish> Thats in texture packs n' that.
#1731 [16:42] <linarish> What bit is your textures?
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#1733 [16:42] <linarish> 8x8 16x15?
#1734 [16:42] <linarish> 16*
#1735 [16:42] <Polymorphic> 16x15
#1736 [16:42] <Polymorphic> lol same typo
#1737 [16:42] <oldtopman> I noticed.
#1738 [16:42] <Polymorphic> I'm new to everything, sorry >_<
#1739 [16:43] <Polymorphic> So get a texture packer?
#1740 [16:43] <linarish> Wait Wait.
#1741 [16:43] <linarish> Whisper me.
#1742 [16:43] <Polymorphic> kk
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#1745 [16:48] <funnykid42> thanks
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#1749 [16:53] <Polymorphic> Xd all of my textures are too big for minecraft
#1750 [16:53] <Polymorphic> back to work!
#1751 [16:54] <funnykid42> ok been looking and searched to keep hitting dead ends
#1752 [16:55] <funnykid42> trying to open minecraft and it just sits with an hiurglass
#1753 [16:55] <funnykid42> hourglass*
#1754 [16:56] <funnykid42> does anyone know of any issues?
#1755 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> What OS/
#1756 [16:59] <funnykid42> xp
#1757 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have on the system?
#1758 [17:01] <funnykid42> 2gb
#1759 [17:01] <funnykid42> it was working fine till today
#1760 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1761 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Could you try downloading the .jar from the website:
#1762 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1763 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> executing it via command line, and see if you get any errors?
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#1765 [17:03] <Tetyys> Hello
#1766 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#1769 [17:06] <funnykid42> command line? sorry not very computer savy.
#1770 [17:07] <Morrolan> Windows I assume?
#1771 [17:07] <funnykid42> yes
#1772 [17:08] <Morrolan> Press Windows+R , then type cmd in the window which comes up
#1773 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/key
#1774 [17:08] <Morrolan> Then you should get a black console
#1775 [17:08] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1776 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1777 [17:08] * GreyVulpine pokes DopeGhoti's email
#1777 [17:08] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: seen it, haven't had time to cook the list @ work today
#1778 [17:08] <funnykid42> question, this is normally run through the minecraft shortcut....there is alot of chat on servers. do i needa server to run this game now?
#1779 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> will do so however
#1780 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Alright.
#1781 [17:09] <Morrolan> funnykid: Euhm, nope.
#1782 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> funnykid42: you only need a server to play multiplayer
#1783 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> single-player is still intact.
#1784 [17:09] <Morrolan> And you can play online without hosting a server as well.
#1785 [17:09] <Morrolan> Unless the authentication is down again?
#1786 [17:10] <Morrolan> ??< win/run
#1787 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> even so, SSP still works
#1788 [17:11] <Morrolan> funnykid: Got that console?
#1789 [17:11] <funnykid42> yes
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#1791 [17:11] <Morrolan> ok. Now did you download the minecraft.jar from the website?
#1792 [17:12] <funnykid42> not the _server.jar?
#1793 [17:12] <Morrolan> Nope.
#1794 [17:12] <funnykid42> ok got it
#1795 [17:13] <Morrolan> Ok, where did you save it?
#1796 [17:13] <funnykid42> desktop
#1797 [17:13] <Morrolan> Ok. Type "cd desktop" in the console, and look if it throws any error.
#1798 [17:14] <Morrolan> Without the ""s
#1799 [17:15] <funnykid42> i may have to move it. the promt begins in my doc/settings
#1800 [17:15] <Morrolan> Ok, then type in "cd .." first
#1801 [17:15] <Morrolan> This will move one folder up in the hierarchy
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#1803 [17:16] <Morrolan> actually you'll even have to do this twice, until you're in your user folder.
#1804 [17:16] <Morrolan> Then you can use "cd desktop"
#1805 [17:16] <TheNytangel> anyone know a good tut for making mods?
#1806 [17:16] <Morrolan> Or just move the minecraft.jar in the folder, yea.
#1807 [17:17] <Morrolan> TheNytangel: Well, do you want to create it with MCP? Or with modloader?
#1808 [17:17] <TheNytangel> i dont care, whichever is easier
#1809 [17:17] <Morrolan> Hmm, might want to ask in #risucraft , they should be able to tell you which one is easier for beginners.
#1810 [17:18] <TheNytangel> i want to make something like a jumbo-jet mod for wolves
#1811 [17:18] <Morrolan> If you want to create on with MCP (I think that's the un-obfuscated source) then you could ask in #Mcp
#1812 [17:18] <TheNytangel> the planes mod you can only take 1 wolf with you
#1813 [17:18] <funnykid42> k moved it, much easier
#1814 [17:18] <Morrolan> Funnykid: Ok.
#1815 [17:20] <Morrolan> Now type "java -jar minecraft.jar net.minecraft.launcherframe" in the console.
#1816 [17:20] <Morrolan> This should start Minecraft. Now when it crashes the error will be in there.
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#1818 [17:21] <_303> Morrolan: I think caps matter, so .LauncherFrame ?
#1819 [17:22] <Morrolan> 303: Just checked it, doesn't make any difference for me.
#1820 [17:23] <funnykid42> still giving me unable to access jarfile mnecraft.jar
#1821 [17:23] <Morrolan> Euhm, and the minecraft.jar IS in the same directory as the current path of the console?
#1822 [17:24] <funnykid42> lol yup i it is
#1823 [17:25] <funnykid42> i just triple checked it again
#1824 [17:25] <Morrolan> That's... strange. Does it work if you just use "java -jar minecraft.jar" ?
#1825 [17:26] <Morrolan> Without the whole net.minecraft.launcheframe thingy?
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#1827 [17:26] <funnykid42> let me delete it and see if i reload it
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#1829 [17:28] <Eaglesoul> so I have no idea why looking for help with an entirely different game pointed me here.
#1830 [17:29] <Morrolan> Hmm?
#1831 [17:29] <Morrolan> With which game, and which issue?
#1832 [17:30] <Eaglesoul> I went to google looking for help with Just Cause 2 and the site for this was right at the top of the list.
#1833 [17:30] <Morrolan> Oo
#1834 [17:30] <funnykid42> k it worked this time
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#1836 [17:31] <funnykid42> still getting the hrglass when i log in though :(
#1837 [17:32] <Morrolan> funnykid: Well, if it crashes now then you should see the error in the console, and then you can throw that at GreyVulpine and see if he knows how to fix it. :p
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#1839 [17:34] <funnykid42> hm, never gives me an error just sits there till i try to do something and it just stays (not responding)
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#1841 [17:35] <Morrolan> Funnykid: That's annoying. :/
#1842 [17:35] <funnykid42> tell me about it
#1843 [17:36] <Morrolan> Never saw the launcher behaving like this .:/
#1844 [17:36] <funnykid42> lol leave it to me to find something odd
#1845 [17:37] <funnykid42> i even have game booster on this lappy to get the game running right
#1846 [17:37] <funnykid42> a few weeks ago i lost the world i spent months on
#1847 [17:37] <funnykid42> now this? ugh
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#1849 [17:38] <Morrolan> Do you have any other PC where you could try it?
#1850 [17:39] <funnykid42> yeah but on each pc u cant access the same world
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#1852 [17:39] <snakedeyes|2> hello
#1853 [17:39] <Morrolan> Well, you can move the world over, that wouldn't be that much of an issue.
#1854 [17:39] <Morrolan> Hey snakedeyes
#1855 [17:40] <funnykid42> lol but um thats mommies pc
#1856 [17:40] <snakedeyes|2> I need help
#1857 [17:40] <Morrolan> funnykid: Hmm, ok. ^^
#1858 [17:40] <snakedeyes|2> I can't seem to disallow creepers to do damage to blocks :(
#1859 [17:40] <Morrolan> snakedeyes: Using any mods? Cause that won't work in Vanilla.
#1860 [17:40] <funnykid42> this is funny's mom.....i have him trying to log into minecraft on the desktop now
#1861 [17:40] <snakedeyes|2> bukkit
#1862 [17:41] <Morrolan> funnykid: Sure thing, let's hope it works. :)
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#1864 [17:41] <Morrolan> snakedeyes: Might want to ask in #bukkit then.
#1865 [17:41] <snakedeyes|2> thx
#1866 [17:41] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
#1867 [17:44] <Morrolan> snakedeyes: Oh, and if you're using WorldGuard for the protection you could ask in #WorldGuard right away.
#1868 [17:44] <funnykid42> k the game works fine on the desktop
#1869 [17:44] <Morrolan> funnykid: Hmm, atleast something. :/
#1870 [17:44] <Morrolan> ¨
#1871 [17:45] <Morrolan> And you say that it did work before, but since yesterday it doesn't anymore?
#1872 [17:45] <funnykid42> i guess this lappy has had enough of minecraft :(
#1873 [17:46] <Morrolan> Did anything change since it worked? Installed any software, new keyboard, or something?
#1874 [17:46] <funnykid42> yeah it was working ok. it would drop at times and would have to reload it
#1875 [17:46] <funnykid42> nothing new
#1876 [17:46] <Morrolan> :/
#1877 [17:46] <Morrolan> Already updated Java?
#1878 [17:47] <funnykid42> yeah should be up to date
#1879 [17:47] <Morrolan> Gah. :/
#1880 [17:48] <funnykid42> hehe have u stumped tooo?
#1881 [17:48] <Morrolan> Sorry, in this case I can only advise you to hang around a bit here, might be that someone has an idea what might be the cause of this.
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#1883 [17:48] <Morrolan> Yeah, I'm rather clueless, can't do much without an error message. :/
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#1885 [17:50] <funnykid42> is there a contact for the makers/coders that may be able to help on this one?
#1886 [17:50] <Morrolan> funnykid: You could write an email to support@mojang.com , yes.
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#1888 [17:50] <Morrolan> Try to give them as much information as possible, maybe include a dxdiag.
#1889 [17:50] <Morrolan> ?? wind/dxdiag
#1890 [17:51] <Morrolan> ?? win/dxdiag
#1891 [17:51] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1892 [17:51] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1893 [17:51] <TheNytangel> !server
#1894 [17:51] <Morrolan> Well, obviously you wouldn't pastebin.com it then, but append it in a file to the mail.
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#1896 [17:52] <funnykid42> ok thanks for all your help
#1897 [17:54] <LordTrevor> VoxelHead, how are you doing today?
#1898 [17:54] <Morrolan> You're welcome, sorry that we couldn't help more.
#1899 [17:54] <Morrolan> LordTrevor: Whoa, you're unleashing the box of Pandora!
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#1901 [17:54] <liljon> guuuuuuuuuuuuuuys
#1902 [17:54] <liljon> i need help
#1903 [17:55] <LordTrevor> But with all the doom somthing good will come out of the box:
#1904 [17:55] <LordTrevor> lulz
#1905 [17:56] <Morrolan> liljon: With?
#1906 [17:56] <Morrolan> LordTrevor: Indeed. :D
#1907 [17:56] <liljon> Who can help? I will give 4 diamonds and one wood for help.
#1908 [17:56] <Morrolan> Depends on what you need. ;)
#1909 [17:57] <liljon> My minecraft runs for like 6 minutes, then freezes. I can't click anything and the window goes unresponsive.
#1910 [17:57] <liljon> And I just updated java.
#1911 [17:58] <liljon> :(
#1912 [17:58] <funnykid42> looks like i am not the only one with this problem now
#1913 [17:58] <liljon> what OS are you on?
#1914 [17:58] <funnykid42> xp
#1915 [17:59] <liljon> im on vista
#1916 [17:59] <liljon> hmmm
#1917 [17:59] <liljon> Morrolan, we're dying over here.
#1918 [17:59] <liljon> Helppppppppppp!
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#1920 [17:59] <liljon> acky came to help us!
#1921 [17:59] <Morrolan> ALreayd reinstalled Minecraft?
#1922 [17:59] <Morrolan> already*
#1923 [17:59] <liljon> yeah, twice
#1924 [17:59] <Morrolan> Hmph.
#1925 [17:59] <liljon> i deleted files and all
#1926 [18:00] <LordTrevor> She probably needs custom memory paremeters
#1927 [18:00] <Morrolan> Ah, might be worth a shot.
#1928 [18:00] <LordTrevor> how much ram do you have?
#1929 [18:00] <liljon> erm, 2 gigs i think? it ran perfectly before i deleted my hard drive and start from a fresh one.
#1930 [18:00] <LordTrevor> ok probably not
#1931 [18:01] <LordTrevor> Is there an error message?
#1932 [18:01] <Morrolan> Look, I'm sorry, I have to go. There are many other people in here who can help you though, so just wait a bit 'till one of them finds the time. :)
#1933 [18:01] <LordTrevor> A random text file on your desktop
#1934 [18:01] <liljon> Alright :C
#1935 [18:01] <liljon> im so sad
#1936 [18:01] <liljon> i want to tame a wolf and build a house
#1937 [18:01] <liljon> things i cant do in real life
#1938 [18:02] <liljon> minecraft is the only place i can fulfill my fantasies.
#1939 [18:02] <liljon> and if i cant even do them in minecraft
#1940 [18:02] <liljon> what do i have to live for?
#1941 [18:02] <funnykid42> tc Morrolan and ty again
#1942 [18:03] <liljon> LordTrevor, theres no text file, or error message.
#1943 [18:03] <liljon> Just freezing.
#1944 [18:03] <funnykid42> nope
#1945 [18:03] <LordTrevor> Hrmm.
#1946 [18:05] <liljon> any idea?
#1947 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> OS? Version of Java?
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#1949 [18:05] <liljon> Vista anddddd
#1950 [18:05] <LordTrevor> linux.
#1951 [18:05] <liljon> let me check
#1952 [18:05] <liljon> how do i check?
#1953 [18:05] <liljon> the latest
#1954 [18:06] <liljon> v6 update 25
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#1956 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> 32- or 64-bit?
#1957 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> When did you last update your GPU drivers?
#1958 [18:07] <liljon> 32 and n/a
#1959 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> okay, well the first think I would advise, then, it updating your GPU drivers.
#1960 [18:07] <liljon> how do i do this
#1961 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> What GPU have you got?
#1962 [18:08] <LordTrevor> Do you have a video card or onboard graphics?
#1963 [18:08] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :O
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#1965 [18:08] <liljon> GTS 450
#1966 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> ?? gpu/nvidia
#1967 [18:08] <VoxelHead> gpu/nvidia: You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#1968 [18:08] <LordTrevor> Voxelhead, me to
#1969 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> ^ go there, update your drivers.
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#1971 [18:08] <liljon> k ill do it
#1972 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> nothing sick about it.
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#1974 [18:13] <liljon> downloading update
#1975 [18:13] <liljon> brb
#1976 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> brh
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#1978 [18:15] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
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#1981 [18:23] <linarish> Hello, can anyone help me on my server I can't bind to port.
#1982 [18:23] <linarish> I just shut it off and back on now it won't go back on.
#1983 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Make sure java isn't running in your processes list?
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#1988 [18:35] <VoxelHead> bye _303
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#1994 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> I'll just leave this here.. 22:54:01 up 60 days, 23:43, 0 users, load average: 983.54, 503.08, 203.69
#1995 [18:58] <Kealper> wait.....
#1996 [18:58] <Kealper> waaaaaaaaaaaait....
#1997 [18:58] <Kealper> wut?
#1998 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> yeah.
#1999 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> one of the servers I monitor here.
#2000 [18:58] <DopeGhoti> *zarks*.
#2001 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> and it successfully recovered from the DoS. Load back down to 4.1
#2002 [18:59] <abysed> nice loads
#2003 [18:59] <VoxelHead> wanna show me what they can do?
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#2006 [19:05] <LordTrevor> Theres this one site I knock off the web when Im in a bad mood
#2007 [19:06] <LordTrevor> some local radio station with a horribly ugly webpage
#2008 [19:06] <LordTrevor> loic rules :3
#2009 [19:08] <aetherian> ._.
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#2011 [19:10] <oldtopman> LordTrevor: How do you do that?
#2012 [19:10] <VoxelHead> i'll need to look that one up oldtopman
#2013 [19:10] <LordTrevor> oldtopman: google loic
#2014 [19:10] <LordTrevor> compile it yourself if you think its viri
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#2018 [19:12] <hatman> i need help
#2019 [19:12] <kaega2> I'm curious on how to find out if my video card supports Occlusion Culling
#2020 [19:12] <xales> With what, hatman?
#2021 [19:12] <hatman> when i purchase minecraft it wont let me buy it it says error
#2022 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> hatman specific
#2023 [19:12] <VoxelHead> hatman: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2024 [19:12] <VoxelHead> hatman: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2025 [19:12] <xales> kaega2: If Minecraft crashes when you turn it on, then it doesn't. If it doesn't crash, then it does
#2026 [19:13] <xales> hatman: Are you using a prepaid card?
#2027 [19:13] <hatman> no master
#2028 [19:14] <xales> Is it a gift card?
#2029 [19:14] <hatman> Transaction error An error occured and your purchase was not completed Message from server: verification denied If you need to contact the shop please use the following reference ID: 118560381
#2030 [19:14] <hatman> thts wat it says
#2031 [19:14] <kaega2> xales: interesting, and you turn on Occlusion Culling by turning on Advanced OpenGL correct?
#2032 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> ?? prepaid
#2033 [19:14] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#2034 [19:14] <xales> kaega2: Correct
#2035 [19:14] <kaega2> xales: thank you
#2036 [19:14] <hatman> i use mastercard
#2037 [19:14] <xales> hatman: You need to contact your bank then. They are denying it.
#2038 [19:15] <hatman> wait y would they deny it?
#2039 [19:15] <xales> I wouldn't know. You might be entering the information incorrectly or the bank may not allow international transactions
#2040 [19:15] <xales> That is why I said to call your bank
#2041 [19:15] <xales> Not being your bank, I cannot help you with your credit card
#2042 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> hatman: international transaction and fraud prevention.
#2043 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> Call the number on the back of the card and tell them you are trying to make a purchase which is being declined
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#2045 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> that's what that phone number is (in part) *for* (:
#2046 [19:17] <hatman> can i use paypal?
#2047 [19:18] <hatman> hello?
#2048 [19:18] <xales> You can try, but again
#2049 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Sure, you can use paypal to purchase minecraft
#2050 [19:18] <hatman> wait but
#2051 [19:18] <xales> you should probably call your bank
#2052 [19:19] <hatman> i dont kno how to get money on paypal
#2053 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Credit cards will also work on paypal
#2054 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Or you can also try linking your bank account to a paypal account, if you do not have access to a credit card
#2055 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> Yes, you can use paypal
#2056 [19:27] <hatman> how do i earn money on pay pal?
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#2058 [19:27] <Brian2one0> Wow
#2059 [19:27] <Brian2one0> T_T
#2060 [19:27] <Brian2one0> I can;t log in again
#2061 [19:27] <Brian2one0> It needs me to login to my ID
#2062 [19:27] <Brian2one0> I do what it says /msg Nickserver <password here> and it says NickServ Not online
#2063 [19:28] <hatman> dopeghoti
#2064 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> yessir (or ma'am or other)?
#2065 [19:29] <hatman> how do i earn money on pay pal
#2066 [19:30] <xales> Brian2one0: That's not what it says.
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#2068 [19:31] <xales> hatman: As we've said, you use your enter your credit card on paypal
#2069 [19:31] <hatman> i did but it wont let me add it
#2070 [19:31] <hatman> i have master and it says i typed my credit number wrong
#2071 [19:31] <hatman> when i did correctly
#2072 [19:31] <xales> Then, as we've said, call the number on the back of the card
#2073 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> is it a prepaid or gift card?
#2074 [19:36] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go o_O.
#2075 [19:36] <hatman> its neither
#2076 [19:36] <hatman> its regular credit card
#2077 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> then, again, call the provider.
#2078 [19:37] <hatman> ok
#2079 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> and good luck (:
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#2082 [19:43] <Shnikies> anyone in here that can help me?
#2083 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#2084 [19:43] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2085 [19:44] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2086 [19:44] <Shnikies> Put in a whitelist application and was wondering when I could get into the super earth server
#2087 [19:44] <LordTrevor> ?? minecraft
#2088 [19:44] <xales> We don't run that server. How would we know?
#2089 [19:44] <Shnikies> yep
#2090 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> uh
#2091 [19:44] <Shnikies> I don't know. I got pointed in this direction.
#2092 [19:44] <LordTrevor> ?? index
#2093 [19:44] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#2094 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> yeah, you'd want to ask the server administrator
#2095 [19:45] <Shnikies> Crap.
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#2097 [19:45] <xales> DopeGhoti: You should idle #help, it's a rather amusing channel ._.
#2098 [19:45] <VoxelHead> watch out for the moose
#2099 [19:46] <xales> VoxelHead: Moose? Where?!?
#2100 [19:46] <VoxelHead> panties
#2101 [19:46] <xales> VoxelHead: There's a moose in my panties? :O
#2102 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> xales: I already have windows 1 through o open regularly :/
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#2104 [19:46] <xales> I have window 1 through U open
#2105 [19:46] <xales> >:|
#2106 [19:47] <xales> U not u :<
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#2109 [19:50] <thatoleserpent> hey guys
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#2111 [19:50] <thatoleserpent> I purchased a prepaid visa card with 22 dollars U.S. on it, and i cannot seem to purchase the game??????
#2112 [19:50] <xales> ?? prepaid
#2113 [19:50] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#2114 [19:51] <thatoleserpent> so thats it, no minecraft for me and anyone else who only has prepaid cards?
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#2116 [19:51] <xales> It's a problem with prepaid cards, nothing could be done about it
#2117 [19:52] <thatoleserpent> oh man that sucks, well i hope they fix it
#2118 [19:52] <xales> It's intentional
#2119 [19:52] <xales> Banks that offer prepaid cards don't allow international use of the cards because of international politics/legalities
#2120 [19:52] <thatoleserpent> even though pay pal
#2121 [19:52] <thatoleserpent> yea
#2122 [19:52] <xales> Yes, even through paypal
#2123 [19:52] <thatoleserpent> yea i tried
#2124 [19:53] <thatoleserpent> well i gotta buddy with a card
#2125 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> thatoleserpent: or just open a bank account
#2126 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> (why does no one think of this?)
#2127 [20:08] <Orbitoid> DopeGhoti: it is usually seen as a difficult task.
#2128 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> I don't know why
#2129 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> walk in, hand over cash, have account.
#2130 [20:08] <xales> "I have to ask mommy for my SSN"
#2131 [20:08] <xales> missing a "But" in the beginning, actually
#2132 [20:10] <xales> DopeGhoti: Finally got my desktop setup nicely http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7950795/DESKTOPS/smilo/Screenshot15.png
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#2134 [20:18] <phox> i need a bit of help setting up my server
#2135 [20:18] <xales> What aspect of setting it up do you require assistance with?
#2136 [20:19] <phox> i got it set up im not sure if it was done right
#2137 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> xales: I apprive
#2138 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> xales: is that terminator?
#2139 [20:19] <xales> DopeGhoti: Indeed
#2140 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> <3
#2141 [20:20] <xales> phox: Then test it?
#2142 [20:20] <phox> im on it now i wanna see if someone else can join it
#2143 [20:21] <xales> Then use the bot to check
#2144 [20:21] <phox> how?
#2145 [20:21] <xales> Say "!check (IP)"
#2146 [20:21] <phox> !check 192.168.2.3:25565
#2147 [20:22] <xales> First, that's a local IP address. It will not work for anyone unless they are on the same network as you. Second, you don't need to put the port at the end
#2148 [20:22] <phox> one problem fixed and another one poped up
#2149 [20:23] <phox> how do i fix failed to bind to port?
#2150 [20:24] <lemon-rev> phox do you have a router
#2151 [20:24] <phox> yes
#2152 [20:24] <lemon-rev> do you know about port forwarding
#2153 [20:25] <phox> yea
#2154 [20:25] <lemon-rev> ok, try port forwarding that 25565 to your 98.247.199.80,
#2155 [20:26] <xales> phox: "Failed to bind port" is most likely because you put an IP address in the server.properties file
#2156 [20:26] <xales> You cannot do this
#2157 [20:26] <xales> Remove it.
#2158 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> s/cannot/should not/
#2159 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> (unless You Know What You Are Doing)
#2160 [20:27] <xales> DopeGhoti: Behind a router, you cannot
#2161 [20:28] <xales> (If you want it to be publicly accessible)\
#2162 [20:28] <xales> -\
#2163 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> you can, if You Know What You Are Doing
#2164 [20:28] <xales> No, I'm pretty sure you can't (rather, behind NAT)
#2165 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> for the sake of not being confusing, I'll not elaborate on a counterexample here
#2166 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> also, I get to go home early, so I'm going to (:
#2167 [20:31] <phox> !check 98.247.199.80
#2168 [20:31] * VoxelHead is away: porn
#2168 [20:32] <lemon-rev> hahahah vox watching porn
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#2170 [20:33] <DarkSkyes> b249:c2b4::b249:c2b4 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :afk making tea
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#2173 [20:36] <phox> what do i do? from the start?
#2174 [20:39] <lemon-rev> hm
#2175 [20:39] <lemon-rev> what type of router is it if you can tell me please
#2176 [20:39] <phox> belkin
#2177 [20:39] <lemon-rev> does it have like a number to go with that or jus the name
#2178 [20:40] <phox> belkin f5d9230-4
#2179 [20:41] <lemon-rev> hm, im
#2180 [20:41] <lemon-rev> http://www.belkin.com/au/networking/
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#2182 [20:42] <phox> http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Wireless-Plus-MIMO-Router/dp/B000WGXF3Q/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1304556110&sr=8-3
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#2184 [20:43] <lemon-rev> http://cache-www.belkin.com/support/dl/f5d9230-4.pdf < thers the manuel for it
#2185 [20:43] <lemon-rev> give me tick
#2186 [20:44] <phox> im on the settings page thing
#2187 [20:44] <lemon-rev> lol 20 meg will take a bit,
#2188 [20:44] <lemon-rev> well i dont know what im looking at till this things up, so just give me time to load page :)
#2189 [20:47] <Brian2one0> Why can't I log into my account >>>
#2190 [20:47] <Brian2one0> >.>
#2191 [20:47] <Brian2one0> I do /msg NickServer passwordhere
#2192 [20:47] <Brian2one0> and it says Nickserv cannot be found
#2193 [20:47] <Brian2one0> Nickserv*
#2194 [20:47] <lemon-rev> cause your adding a r
#2195 [20:47] <lemon-rev> its just nickserv
#2196 [20:47] <lemon-rev> or ns
#2197 [20:48] <mitpatterson> ummm Brian2one0 would also be due to the server issues they are having.......(assuming you are not adding the r)
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#2199 [20:48] <Brian2one0> <NickServ>: Invalid command. Use /msg NickServ help for a command listing.
#2200 [20:48] <mitpatterson> here is the command
#2201 [20:49] <mitpatterson> "/msg NickServ identify <password>"
#2202 [20:49] <Brian2one0> Wow thanks
#2203 [20:49] <Brian2one0> Never said that when I logged in >.>
#2204 [20:49] <mitpatterson> gotta have the identify
#2205 [20:49] <mitpatterson> it should have
#2206 [20:49] <mitpatterson> may have been in "(notices)
#2207 [20:49] <mitpatterson> "
#2208 [20:49] <Brian2one0> I saw it said I needed to log in
#2209 [20:49] <Brian2one0> I think I tried something like that
#2210 [20:49] <lemon-rev> ok just loading up the pdf
#2211 [20:49] <Brian2one0> But it said Nickserv cannot be found.
#2212 [20:49] <lemon-rev> brain it could be down atm
#2213 [20:50] <mitpatterson> like here is what mine said when i joined: "-NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>."
#2214 [20:50] <lemon-rev> it does that sometimes
#2215 [20:50] <mitpatterson> Brian2one0, is it working now that you did the command i showed?
#2216 [20:52] <lemon-rev> phox
#2217 [20:52] <phox> thats my name
#2218 [20:53] <lemon-rev> good stuff
#2219 [20:53] <lemon-rev> ok, you still in that set up screen ?
#2220 [20:53] <lemon-rev> its saying here set your router to work with dhcp server
#2221 [20:53] <lemon-rev> bah
#2222 [20:53] <lemon-rev> forget that
#2223 [20:53] <lemon-rev> im still trying to find this page
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#2226 [20:57] <lemon-rev> phox goto your firewall virtual servers page
#2227 [20:58] <phox> i have port 25565 forwared
#2228 [20:58] <lemon-rev> hum
#2229 [20:58] <lemon-rev> so its in there
#2230 [20:59] <lemon-rev> whats the ip you gave it to port on ? should have 1 box at end with 2 ?
#2231 [20:59] <DarkSkyes> b249:c2b4::b249:c2b4 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :back
#2232 [21:01] <phox> my private ip?
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#2234 [21:01] <lemon-rev> yes
#2235 [21:01] <phox> 192.168.2.3
#2236 [21:01] <m0nk> !check 192.168.2.3
#2237 [21:02] <lemon-rev> yes monk
#2238 [21:02] <m0nk> sry i just awake
#2239 [21:02] <lemon-rev> unelss you http://cache-www.belkin.com/support/dl/f5d9230-4.pdf < wanta help out about half way down
#2240 [21:02] <lemon-rev> its ok, trying to help port forwarding
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#2242 [21:03] <m0nk> halfway down give me router restart?
#2243 [21:04] <lemon-rev> hm looking for setting client ip filters and stuff
#2244 [21:04] <m0nk> on a what? router of firewall?
#2245 [21:04] <phox> there a program i can get that will do this for me?
#2246 [21:04] <lemon-rev> configuring internal forward settings, but hes already set it, im just trying to work out why its not working for him
#2247 [21:05] <lemon-rev> it says on that web page i gave you monk
#2248 [21:05] <m0nk> page?
#2249 [21:05] <lemon-rev> http://cache-www.belkin.com/support/dl/f5d9230-4.pdf
#2250 [21:05] <lemon-rev> belkin / f5d9230-4 < tpe
#2251 [21:05] <lemon-rev> type*
#2252 [21:05] <m0nk> no, what page on that page :P
#2253 [21:05] <lemon-rev> lol
#2254 [21:05] <m0nk> there are pages there you know
#2255 [21:05] <lemon-rev> b56 apparently
#2256 [21:05] <lemon-rev> on sidepannel
#2257 [21:06] <m0nk> there is no sidepanel
#2258 [21:06] <phox> can i change the port?
#2259 [21:07] <lemon-rev> in the pdf vwier
#2260 [21:07] <m0nk> port should be 35565
#2261 [21:07] <m0nk> 25565*
#2262 [21:07] <lemon-rev> its like a double page, thingi should be side pannel on your pdf reader
#2263 [21:07] <phox> i get failed to bind to port error m0nk
#2264 [21:08] <m0nk> then you need to Assign a game or application to a local network device
#2265 [21:08] <phox> how do i do that?
#2266 [21:08] <m0nk> local network device beeing your computers ip
#2267 [21:09] <m0nk> did you look on prtforward.com for your router?
#2268 [21:09] <m0nk> port*
#2269 [21:09] <phox> i got the program from that site
#2270 [21:09] <m0nk> what router is it?
#2271 [21:09] <phox> belkin / f5d9230-4
#2272 [21:09] <m0nk> you dont need that yet
#2273 [21:10] <m0nk> read this
#2274 [21:10] <m0nk> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Belkin/F5D9230-4/Minecraft_Server.htm
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#2276 [21:12] <phox> im gonna try something that could make this alot easyer
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#2278 [21:14] <phox> brb may dissconnect
#2279 [21:15] <inked> can anybody help me with minecraft 1.5 locking up on windows 7 after playing for a few mins?
#2280 [21:15] <phox> hello?
#2281 [21:16] <inked> hi
#2282 [21:17] <xales> ??> inked win/reinst
#2283 [21:17] <VoxelHead> inked: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2284 [21:17] <VoxelHead> inked: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2285 [21:17] <xales> phox: Don't put an IP address in server.properties, as I have said
#2286 [21:18] <inked> thanx'
#2287 [21:19] <phox> ugh
#2288 [21:19] <phox> another problem now
#2289 [21:20] <m0nk> ?
#2290 [21:20] <phox> router firmware wont update now
#2291 [21:21] <m0nk> did you follow the portforward instructions?'
#2292 [21:22] <phox> i cant
#2293 [21:23] <phox> theres no custom server input
#2294 [21:24] <m0nk> is there a dot you need to check that has custom server behind it
#2295 [21:25] <phox> huh
#2296 [21:25] <m0nk> didn't i find your router on portforward?
#2297 [21:28] <phox> when i update my firmware the page switches to "connection was reset" when it starts updating
#2298 [21:30] <phox> will this help http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1796937/servers.png
#2299 [21:30] <phox> ?
#2300 [21:30] <m0nk> change type to all
#2301 [21:30] <phox> huh?
#2302 [21:31] <m0nk> where it says tcp. or wait. save that config then try with port checker tool.
#2303 [21:31] <m0nk> minecraft client and server needs to be closed for it to ork if properly configged
#2304 [21:32] <phox> !check 192.168.2.3:25565
#2305 [21:32] <m0nk> !check 98.247.199.80
#2306 [21:32] <phox> !check 98.247.199.80
#2307 [21:34] <m0nk> where it says type tcp change that to all. or udp
#2308 [21:35] <LordTrevor> !check 127.0.0.1
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#2310 [21:36] <phox2> ok
#2311 [21:36] <phox2> !check 192.168.2.3:25565
#2312 [21:36] <phox2> !check 98.247.199.80
#2313 [21:37] <LordTrevor> !check 174.149.205.189
#2314 [21:37] <phox2> !check 98.247.199.80
#2315 [21:37] <LordTrevor> I dont think check works
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#2317 [21:38] <LordTrevor> !check google.com
#2318 [21:38] <m0nk> !check 88.89.15.191
#2319 [21:38] <phox2> now what do i do?
#2320 [21:38] <m0nk> !check 88.89.15.191
#2321 [21:38] <LordTrevor> its broke, it just said googles down
#2322 [21:38] <m0nk> who broke it
#2323 [21:38] <LordTrevor> !check www.google.com
#2324 [21:38] <phox2> try resetting it
#2325 [21:39] <m0nk> x3 terran conflict huh phox :p
#2326 [21:40] <phox2> was bored waiting for my money to come so i could buy minecraft
#2327 [21:40] <phox2> plust most of my art is sc-fi inspired
#2328 [21:40] <phox2> plus*
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#2330 [21:42] <m0nk> !isup 98.247.199.80,
#2331 [21:42] <GreyBot> m0nk: It's not just you! http://98.247.199.80%2C looks down from here.
#2332 [21:42] <m0nk> !isup 98.247.199.80
#2333 [21:42] <GreyBot> m0nk: It's not just you! http://98.247.199.80 looks down from here.
#2334 [21:44] <m0nk> phox
#2335 [21:45] <m0nk> did you try the portchecker tool?
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#2337 [21:46] <xales> LordTrevor: It's not broken
#2338 [21:46] <xales> Seeing as how there is nothing running on google.com's port 25565, it was unable to make a connection
#2339 [21:46] <LordTrevor> !check google.com
#2340 [21:46] <LordTrevor> ah
#2341 [21:46] <m0nk> !check 88.89.15.191
#2342 [21:46] <LordTrevor> !check google.com:80
#2343 [21:46] <m0nk> !check 88.89.15.191:25565
#2344 [21:48] <m0nk> !check 88.89.15.191:25565
#2345 [21:49] <m0nk> lol. logged in a couple of times and it worked?
#2346 [21:49] <m0nk> it didnt worked before.
#2347 [21:49] <m0nk> check it now
#2348 [21:49] <m0nk> without the :80
#2349 [21:50] <m0nk> !check www.google.com
#2350 [21:50] <m0nk> !check google.com
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#2380 [21:50] <m0nk> hmm
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#2383 [21:55] <phox2> m0nk what do i do now?
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#2386 [21:57] <m0nk> what have you done so far?
#2387 [21:58] <phox2> i used the port checker tool
#2388 [21:58] <m0nk> you need to enter 25565 in there and check tcp and udp
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#2390 [22:00] <phox> i did
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#2392 [22:03] <phox> i got an error
#2393 [22:04] <m0nk> it needs to be portforwarded to your computer ip with tcp and udp protcol
#2394 [22:06] <m0nk> !isup 98.247.199.80
#2395 [22:06] <m0nk> !check 98.247.199.80
#2396 [22:06] <GreyBot> m0nk: It's not just you! http://98.247.199.80 looks down from here.
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#2400 [22:08] <phox> ok i think ive done it
#2401 [22:09] <m0nk> is it working?
#2402 [22:10] <phox> same error
#2403 [22:12] <m0nk> did you add the apllication to your ip?
#2404 [22:12] <m0nk> appli*
#2405 [22:12] <phox> i think so
#2406 [22:14] <m0nk> did you apply changes?
#2407 [22:14] <phox> yea
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#2409 [22:15] <m0nk> your 2 hours ahead of me? what country?
#2410 [22:15] <phox> me?
#2411 [22:15] <m0nk> yes
#2412 [22:15] <Dge> Hi, how i can have the Source Code of minecraft if i want develop a Mod??
#2413 [22:15] <phox> usa
#2414 [22:16] <phox> west coast
#2415 [22:16] <m0nk> did you set your clock? :P
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#2418 [22:17] <LordTrevor> Well, having enough intelligence to use proper grammer may help with deleoping a mod.
#2419 [22:17] <LordTrevor> just saying.
#2420 [22:18] <Dge> Sorry I dont speak english very well
#2421 [22:18] <LordTrevor> Anways you'l need the de obfuscator. I think theres a channel with a link to it.
#2422 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> mcpmodding or some such
#2423 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> or mcp-modding, can't remember, /list will have it
#2424 [22:19] <m0nk> grey. wanna help phox?
#2425 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2426 [22:19] <m0nk> portforwarding 25565
#2427 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> What's the issue with it?
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#2429 [22:20] <phox> i have no idea what im doing
#2430 [22:20] <LordTrevor> ./list kills my client every time >.<
#2431 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Alright, let's start from the beginning phox.
#2432 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> What operating system is the computer running the server on?
#2433 [22:21] <m0nk> i already showed him the portforwarding for his router
#2434 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Does he know the internal IP of the computer running the server?
#2435 [22:21] <phox> win7 64bit (recently upgraded)
#2436 [22:21] <m0nk> yes
#2437 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> What is it?
#2438 [22:21] <m0nk> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1796937/servers.png his router?
#2439 [22:21] <m0nk> -?
#2440 [22:21] <phox> yea thats mine
#2441 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.
#2442 [22:21] <Dge> THX
#2443 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.2.3 is the internal IP address of the computer?
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#2445 [22:22] <phox> im not sure
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#2447 [22:22] <m0nk> i forgot
#2448 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Alright, on the computer running the server, can you go to the start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#2449 [22:23] <m0nk> that
#2450 [22:23] <m0nk> ..
#2451 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> That'll bring up a black command prompt
#2452 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> There, type in: ipconfig
#2453 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Please give me the ipv4 address
#2454 [22:24] <phox> 5.174.48.138
#2455 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> That's a hamachi address
#2456 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> I'm looking for an ipv4 address that'll either be under a wireless or ethernet heading
#2457 [22:24] <m0nk> starts with 10 maybe
#2458 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Nope, would be 192.168.x.y
#2459 [22:25] <phox> 192.168.2.3
#2460 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Okay, that is the correct ip address then.
#2461 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Could you please go to your router's setup page and screenshot that?
#2462 [22:25] <m0nk> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1796937/servers.png
#2463 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> or, system settings
#2464 [22:26] <phox> what m0nk said
#2465 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> There's a "system settings" button on the left side, along the bottom
#2466 [22:27] <phox> ok
#2467 [22:27] <phox> brb
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#2469 [22:28] <phox> ok
#2470 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a WAN/internet/public ip address there? Could you tell us what it is?
#2471 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> We just want to make sure it's giving 98.247.199.80
#2472 [22:31] <phox> i dont see one
#2473 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, could you go to the beginning page of your router, when you first log in?
#2474 [22:32] <phox> WAN ip?
#2475 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2476 [22:32] <phox> 98.247.199.80
#2477 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Alright, the port forwarding stuff looks good then.
#2478 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any sort of security software on the computer? Any firewall(s)?
#2479 [22:33] <phox> just stanard windows stuff
#2480 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> So that would be a yes then, windows firewall.
#2481 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Let's see, pull up your start menu, in the search bar, type in: firewall.cpl
#2482 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Along the left side, you should see "Advanced settings"
#2483 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Click on it, then find "Inbound Rules"
#2484 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> You're going to make a new Inbound rule by clicking on "New Rule" on the right side
#2485 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Go through the wizard, you'll make a new port rule for port 25565/tcp
#2486 [22:36] <phox> ok
#2487 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Done?
#2488 [22:36] <phox> yup
#2489 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Alright, launch the server
#2490 [22:37] <phox> ok
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#2492 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> !check 98.247.199.80
#2493 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Looks like you're good to go.
#2494 [22:37] <phox> what ip do i put in for the server?
#2495 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2496 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> For server-ip in server.properties?
#2497 [22:38] <phox> to join on minecraft
#2498 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#2499 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> If you want to connect yourself, either 127.0.0.1 if you're connecting on the same computer
#2500 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Or you can use your public ip of 98.247.199.80
#2501 [22:38] <LordTrevor> !msg LordTrevor test
#2502 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Everybody else outside your house, can use the public ip
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#2505 [22:39] <phox> !check 98.247.199.80
#2506 [22:39] <phox> GreyVulpine can you join my server to see if it works right?
#2507 [22:40] <LordTrevor> !msg AuBot !msg LordTrevor hello
#2508 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> The bot's able to connect ifne.
#2509 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> fine*
#2510 [22:44] <bokaholic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIvonQOR5Fk&feature=player_embedded
#2511 [22:44] <bokaholic> :O
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#2516 [22:53] <phox> how do i get a pic of this of my server? http://i.imgur.com/2BIjK.jpg
#2517 [22:53] <phox> pic like this*
#2518 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> phox - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_editors
#2519 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Mappers are there.
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#2521 [22:56] <LordTrevor> You know, somtimes static ip's rock.
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#2525 [23:00] <michaelsloan> can somone help me and see if my server is working i cant tell?
#2526 [23:00] <LordTrevor> ip?
#2527 [23:01] <michaelsloan> 173.81.109.136:25565
#2528 [23:01] <LordTrevor> !check 173.81.109.136
#2529 [23:01] <LordTrevor> !check 173.81.109.136:25565
#2530 [23:01] <michaelsloan> ok let me check
#2531 [23:02] <michaelsloan> 192.168.2.150:25565
#2532 [23:02] <michaelsloan> sary lol
#2533 [23:02] <LordTrevor> ...
#2534 [23:02] <LordTrevor> !check 192.168.2.150
#2535 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Um, that's an internal ip address...
#2536 [23:03] <michaelsloan> so how do i find the ip for it
#2537 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> whatismyip.com
#2538 [23:03] <LordTrevor> !check
#2539 [23:04] <michaelsloan> 173.81.109.136
#2540 [23:04] <LordTrevor> hmmm, that was a lot faster
#2541 [23:04] <michaelsloan> is it
#2542 [23:04] <LordTrevor> !check 173.81.109.136
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#2544 [23:04] <LordTrevor> nope
#2545 [23:04] <LordTrevor> did you forward the ports?
#2546 [23:04] <michaelsloan> yes
#2547 [23:05] <michaelsloan> on 25565
#2548 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell us how you port forwarded, what you've done, or provide screenshots?
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#2550 [23:06] <michaelsloan> ok i went to my routers website the whent to port forward i don everything it says on port forward.com
#2551 [23:06] <Dragonbut> Oldtop???
#2552 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> michaelsloan - Can you give us a screenshot of the relavent page?
#2553 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Upload it to imgur.com
#2554 [23:09] <phox> ok how do i install mods on my server
#2555 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/how-to-install-bukkit-newb-friendly.245/
#2556 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server
#2557 [23:09] <m0nk> newb friendly... rofl
#2558 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> http://wiki.bukkit.org/Installing_Plugins
#2559 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Also, list of plugins available here: http://plugins.bukkit.org/#ti=&ta=all&au=
#2560 [23:10] <phox> GreyVulpine your name sounds familier
#2561 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> For more info and help on bukkit, you'll want to hit up #bukkit
#2562 [23:12] <phox> GreyVulpine may i pm?
#2563 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Sure
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#2567 [23:36] <Dragonbut> I'm trying to join a server and it's stuck on logging in
#2568 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> Can you try a different server?
#2569 [23:36] <Dragonbut> Lemme see
#2570 [23:37] <Dragonbut> Works just fine
#2571 [23:37] * VoxelHead is back
#2571 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Most likely a problem with that server then
#2572 [23:38] <Dragonbut> People have been traveling alot
#2573 [23:38] <Dragonbut> A lot*
#2574 [23:38] <Dragonbut> Very far
#2575 [23:38] <Dragonbut> From X: 300 to X: 4000
#2576 [23:39] <Dragonbut> Now it worked
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#2580 [23:42] <VoxelHead> I like them :o)