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#6 [00:10] <robert> .
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#15 [01:05] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :O
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#21 [01:23] <Nellers> Hi
#22 [01:23] <Nellers> Is anyone having problems connecting to multiplayer servers?
#23 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#24 [01:25] <phox> how do i add mods to my server?
#25 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> phox - Generally, you'll need to find a modded server file, install and run it.
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#27 [01:32] <HerkaDerka> I need help, I have a Visa Gift Card and I'm in the US, is there a way to buy Minecraft this way?
#28 [01:32] <phox> is there an easy way GreyVulpine?
#29 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> Gift cards are known to cause problems with purchasing minecraft
#30 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> If you have a credit card, or a paypal account, it would be best
#31 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> phox - There's no magic single button to press so that you automatically have a modded server, no
#32 [01:34] <HerkaDerka> Thank you, I'll try to do something.
#33 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> The modded server isn't officially recognized, or supported by Mojang, it's all community-based effort, so it's not entirely streamlined, or bug free
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#35 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> And I don't have to mention, it breaks every time Mojang releases an update.
#36 [01:34] <phox> i just want planes and mo creatures mod
#37 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> Neither of which will work in SMP.
#38 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> As far as I know, those are single player mods only.
#39 [01:36] <HerkaDerka> Could I contact Notch and give him the gift card number and he would make my account premium?
#40 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> HerkaDerka - Sorry, no.
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#42 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> If you do not have access to a credit card, or a bank account in which to link a paypal account with, you can try to get somebody to gift you a copy of minecraft
#43 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Other than that, Mojang is looking into expanding further payment options
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#45 [01:37] <HerkaDerka> Oh okay thank you.
#46 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> But we have no ETA on the last solution
#47 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> phox - I know mo creatures used to work in the past, but it required both the server and the client to have the mod in order to connect
#48 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> I don't know if it still works now.
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#50 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> You okay there tanjoodo?
#51 [01:38] <phox> GreyVulpine know a good server?
#52 [01:38] <VoxelHead> crap
#53 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> There's tons of servers out there, each person has a different opinion of what a 'good' server consists of
#54 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> I can get you started, give you a few lists...
#55 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#56 [01:39] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#57 [01:39] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#59 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> But I prefer, personally, private servers, running mainly vanilla with no mods.
#60 [01:40] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Yes, GreyVulpine, I'm fine.
#61 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> You're just disconnecting quite frequently.
#62 [01:42] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Yea, I'm using my iPod in class, so I keep locking it, and it keeps disconnecting stupidly.
#63 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
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#65 [01:43] <Tanjoodo_iPod> *sigh*
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#67 [01:44] <Tanjoodo_iPod> O_O the principal just came in (or is it principle?)
#68 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> principal
#69 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> (He's your 'pal')
#70 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> Only way i've been able to keep it straight all these years
#71 [01:45] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Lol
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#73 [01:47] <all> Why do I have the sudden urge to lock my iPod everytime someone sees me?
#74 [01:47] <all> ...
#75 [01:47] <Tanjoodo> WTF is my nick "all"?
#76 [01:51] <phox> minecraft chrashed on me again how do i fix it?
#77 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> How does it crash?
#78 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you any error reports?
#79 [01:51] <phox> black screen
#80 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> When does it black screen?
#81 [01:52] <phox> i just get a black screen after a play a bit
#82 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, not much to go on then.
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#85 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> phox - Really, the only advice I can give, is to look into reinstalling java, making sure you have the right java for the right system, update your video drivers, and look at your system specs, check the RAM usage of minecraft when it does black screen
#86 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> Some have reported a large amount of RAM being used, right before it does black screen..
#87 [02:00] <GLaDOS> GreyVulpine: that can only mean one thing
#88 [02:00] <GLaDOS> LOLMEMORYLEAK
#89 [02:00] * GreyVulpine nods
#89 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> I've gotten it myself once or twice, minecraft was using over a gig of ram.
#90 [02:00] <GLaDOS> It's probably the leak that takes half the RAM in the first place
#91 [02:01] <GLaDOS> Knowing notch, he can make bugs do anything
#92 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't doubt minecraft has a memory leak or three.
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#103 [02:23] <SenorC> hello, is anyone around?
#104 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#105 [02:23] <relsqui> no
#106 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> None at all. All dead, we are
#107 [02:23] <SenorC> ah, zombies i see
#108 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Indeed. Brains and all that.
#109 [02:24] <SenorC> hmm... I understand that you guys aren't affiliated with Mojang, but could you give me some pointers on who I should talk to about resolving an account issue?
#110 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#111 [02:24] <SenorC> may i PM you?
#112 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Sure.
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#115 [02:34] <VoxelHead> Master, where did you go? I can't see you in the butt.
#116 [02:34] <xales> VoxelHead: I went to get your moose
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#119 [02:42] <phox> is there a button to take screen shots?
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#121 [02:45] <dopeghoti> phox: F2
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#132 [03:02] <umbridge> hello
#133 [03:02] <umbridge> sorry
#134 [03:02] <umbridge> cant connect
#135 [03:02] <umbridge> to my ip
#136 [03:02] <umbridge> it says connected and then it says that i need to login
#137 [03:02] <umbridge> but i allready did
#138 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> You're running a server?
#139 [03:03] <umbridge> yes
#140 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> You used the server file at http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#141 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Which is the classic server file
#142 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> The beta server file is here: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#143 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#144 [03:04] <umbridge> ok
#145 [03:04] <umbridge> let me try
#146 [03:04] <umbridge> tranks
#147 [03:04] <umbridge> thanks
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#149 [03:09] <umbridge> now it says internal exception: java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 14
#150 [03:09] <umbridge> :(
#151 [03:09] * VoxelHead feels umbridge
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#153 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the latest client? Got the server downloaded in its own seperate folder?
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#159 [03:23] <Vin> woah bad connection
#160 [03:23] <Vin> l8r
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#162 [03:23] <VoxelHead> mmm Vin
#163 [03:23] <m0nk> vin is wine in norwegian :D
#164 [03:25] <m0nk> !translate norwegian english vin
#165 [03:27] <dopeghoti> ?? index
#166 [03:27] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
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#175 [03:55] <MrCrashdummy> So.....
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#183 [04:04] <VoxelHead> *yawn*
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#186 [04:23] <dalebert91> For some reason I can not send in #minecraft.
#187 [04:23] <GreyVulpine> ?? irc
#188 [04:23] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#189 [04:23] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
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#202 [05:57] <tommy11490> hi guys,when will be released full version of MINECRAFT ?
#203 [05:57] <MrCrashdummy> tommy11490 11/11/11
#204 [05:58] <tommy11490> thanks!
#205 [05:58] <MrCrashdummy> no problem, but keep in mind that this is not a fixed date.
#206 [05:58] <MrCrashdummy> It can change any time
#207 [05:59] <MrCrashdummy> Why do you want to know this? If i may ask.
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#209 [06:05] <tommy11490> sorry,im not that good at english to explain what i mean :D
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#211 [06:08] <Morrolan> ... So he left.
#212 [06:08] <lemon-rev> oh well
#213 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> It happens.
#214 [06:10] <MrCrashdummy> haha, I was just replying and then he left...
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#220 [06:39] <TETYYS> hello
#221 [06:40] <Sqozza> Hello.
#222 [06:41] <NotiCon> hi
#223 [06:41] <MrCrashdummy> Hi
#224 [06:44] <Vhozard> im good
#225 [06:44] <MrCrashdummy> Hmm... how good? Notch good or ...?
#226 [07:04] <Andy-chan> What's the difference? Notch good and regular good?
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#229 [07:23] <Irokesengranate> Hello everyone, I (obviously have a problem. Linux, minecraft was never installed before, downloaded the .jar, runs fine, when I try to update, the download gets stuck at 24%, retries a few times and then gives up (Fatal error (4)). What can I do?
#230 [07:24] <Irokesengranate> It says it's unable to retrieve the lwjgl.jar. However, when I check it, it is the correct size after the failed update.
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#232 [07:31] <lemon-rev> Irokesengranate could be an server error on minecraft.net site
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#234 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> Usually isn't minecraft.net's fault
#235 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> Have you checked the things I told you to check in #minecraft?
#236 [07:47] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Btw, valid characters for Minecraft usernames: "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789_", maximum length: 16
#237 [07:48] <Morrolan> If ever someone asks again. ^^
#238 [07:48] <NotiCon> better add them to VoxelHead
#239 [07:49] <Morrolan> Well, a-z, A-Z, 0-9 and _ , so only the most basic characters.
#240 [07:51] <Irokesengranate> GreyVulpine: sorry for the delay, You mean my connection? I'm very sure it isn't a connection issue since my other PC which uses the same connection is able to update normal
#241 [07:51] <Morrolan> Irokesengranate: I assume you already tried to delete the minecraft files?
#242 [07:52] <Irokesengranate> yes
#243 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Irokesengranate - How is the computer having the issue, hooked up? Ethernet? Wireless?
#244 [07:54] <Irokesengranate> Wireless
#245 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> How is the signal quality?
#246 [07:54] <Irokesengranate> about 65%
#247 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to hook up a cable to it?
#248 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> Even just to test it out?
#249 [07:55] <Irokesengranate> yes, that would be possible
#250 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> Could you try it?
#251 [07:55] <Irokesengranate> I'll try that out and get back to you
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#253 [08:03] <Irokesengranate> ok, I'm back, hooking it to a wired connection didn't solve the issue
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#255 [08:14] <GreyVulpine> Alright, are you running any sort of firewall or security software?
#256 [08:15] <Irokesengranate> none that I'm aware of
#257 [08:15] <GreyVulpine> What operating system?
#258 [08:15] <Irokesengranate> Ubuntu 10.10
#259 [08:15] <GreyVulpine> No special iptable rules?
#260 [08:17] <Irokesengranate> I have no idea what that is
#261 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> I'll take that as a no
#262 [08:19] <Irokesengranate> yes, thats a no
#263 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> And you said you tried deleting ~/.minecraft before?
#264 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> Also, another computer using the same internet connection has no trouble?
#265 [08:21] <Irokesengranate> yes, that other computer runs Windows 7 though
#266 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> Alright, well, this won't solve the underlying problem, but you can try copying the files over from your windows rig
#267 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> The files, you can find via the %appdata% directory
#268 [08:25] <Irokesengranate> ok, I'll try that
#269 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> Just copy the entire .minecraft folder over
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#276 [08:56] <Irokesengranate> ok, even copying the files from my other PC didn't work, I give up
#277 [08:57] <Irokesengranate> thanks to everyone who helped me, I'm out
#278 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> Did you delete ~/.minecraft from your ubuntu box, copy the %appdata%/.minecraft folder, and transfer it over?
#279 [08:59] <Irokesengranate> yes. When I start the copied .jar I get to the login screen, click login and the window turns black
#280 [08:59] <NotiCon> awesome my minecraft just went speedy D:
#281 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> NotiCon - AMD processor?
#282 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> also, windows?
#283 [08:59] <NotiCon> core 2 and win7
#284 [08:59] <Morrolan> NotiCon: System time changed?
#285 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> Weird.
#286 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> Irokesengranate - Wait, what?
#287 [09:00] <NotiCon> nah i think it was cause of my lenovo toolbox just finished its scanning
#288 [09:01] <Irokesengranate> GreyBot, no, wait, the copied .jar won't start at all, while using the one I downloaded gets me to a black screen
#289 [09:01] <Kealper> Irokesengranate: has it ever worked before?
#290 [09:02] <GreyVulpine> kealper, I'm trying to get Irokesengranate to copy the .minecraft folder from his windows box which works, to his *nix box, which doesn't complete updating
#291 [09:02] <Irokesengranate> on this pc: yes, under linux: no
#292 [09:02] <Kealper> oh....huh...
#293 [09:03] <Kealper> and nix box is blackscreening on login?
#294 [09:03] <GreyVulpine> I think he's just copying the .jar
#295 [09:03] <Irokesengranate> nope
#296 [09:03] <Irokesengranate> the complete folder
#297 [09:04] <Kealper> are you dualbooting on the same machine or is it two separate computers?
#298 [09:04] <Irokesengranate> two computers
#299 [09:04] <Kealper> what are the specs of the linux one?
#300 [09:06] <Irokesengranate> you mean the hardware of the pc itself?
#301 [09:06] <Kealper> yeah
#302 [09:07] <Kealper> just the basics like cpu, amount of ram, gpu, etc
#303 [09:07] <Irokesengranate> CPU: 2x 2.5 GHz, 4 GB RAM, GeForce 8700GT
#304 [09:08] <Irokesengranate> it could run minecraft when it was still running Windows
#305 [09:08] <Kealper> what graphics drivers do you have installed?
#306 [09:09] <Irokesengranate> proprietary driver from NVIDIA (version 173)
#307 [09:10] <Kealper> hmm...
#308 [09:10] <Kealper> try running the game through a terminal to see if it spits out debug info when it fails
#309 [09:12] <Irokesengranate> It says "Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Can't load library: /home/MyName/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so"
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#311 [09:14] <Morrolan> Already tried downloading the lwjgl stuff yourself?
#312 [09:15] <NotiCon> Irokesengranate: delete the bin folder in the .minecraft folder and relaunch the client
#313 [09:15] <Kealper> wait a tick
#314 [09:15] <Kealper> no
#315 [09:15] <NotiCon> :(
#316 [09:15] <Kealper> you copied that from windows to the linux machine, right?
#317 [09:15] <Irokesengranate> yes
#318 [09:16] <Kealper> well..that's why it's not working, it has all the windows natives and not the linux one
#319 [09:16] <Kealper> ones*
#320 [09:16] <NotiCon> as i said delete the bin folder?
#321 [09:16] <Kealper> i think the issue was that the machine wouldn't download stuff on it's own
#322 [09:16] <NotiCon> oh
#323 [09:16] <Irokesengranate> NotiCon: thats would bring me back to my original problem
#324 [09:16] <NotiCon> right
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#326 [09:17] <Kealper> try deleting the natives folder all together
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#328 [09:18] <Irokesengranate> tried that, still getting a black screen
#329 [09:20] <Kealper> for the same reason?
#330 [09:20] <Morrolan> <+Morrolan> Already tried downloading the lwjgl stuff yourself?
#331 [09:21] <Irokesengranate> Kealper: yes
#332 [09:22] <Irokesengranate> Morrolan: It seems as if the lwjgl is there already
#333 [09:22] <Irokesengranate> correct size and everything
#334 [09:22] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok.
#335 [09:22] <Kealper> now...since i was not here when you were saying the original problem...what does it do when it goes to download the files?
#336 [09:23] <Kealper> (also, is the permissions set correctly for the whole .minecraft folder?)
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#338 [09:27] <Irokesengranate> the original problem is this: https://gist.github.com/957012
#339 [09:28] <Kealper> hmm...
#340 [09:30] <Kealper> i'm not sure :/
#341 [09:32] <Irokesengranate> anyway, thank you
#342 [09:32] <Irokesengranate> I'm giving up
#343 [09:33] <Kealper> sorry i couldn't be more help, but your problem has stumped me :<
#344 [09:34] <Kealper> it might be worth it to drop by here some other time when some of the Linux gurus are on...i've only got basic experience with Linux, my home is Windows
#345 [09:34] <Irokesengranate> yeah, I might do that
#346 [09:34] <Irokesengranate> bye for now
#347 [09:34] <Kealper> cya :/
#348 [09:34] * Kealper waves _o/
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#349 [09:37] <oldtopmanserver> WAIT...
#350 [09:37] <oldtopmanserver> grr
#351 [09:38] <oldtopmanserver> It sounded like a permissions issue :/
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#361 [10:07] <Kealper> oldtopman: i already asked him if permissions were set up right :/
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#372 [10:44] <oldtopman> Kealper: My bad then.
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#377 [10:52] <asnoehu> please help this feature to go up :O :S http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/disable_beds
#378 [10:53] <asnoehu> or please tell me if this is an in apropreate request
#379 [10:53] <oldtopman> Why would you want the beds disabled?
#380 [10:53] <oldtopman> Just don't build them.
#381 [10:54] <asnoehu> multiplay server
#382 [10:54] <oldtopman> So?
#383 [10:54] <oldtopman> Just don't build them!
#384 [10:54] <asnoehu> not a solution
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#389 [11:03] <BlackDeath> Hello, is there anyone who know how to build a trap which allows that sheeps die can collect the wool. All traps i built killed the sheep but they don't drop wool
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#391 [11:05] <Guest24827> does any one know hot to get the minecraft server started so that the same pc as server can connect or another pc in direct network?
#392 [11:06] <Guest24827> and as far as i know sheep dont drop wool when they die
#393 [11:06] <Guest24827> you need to beat it off them
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#395 [11:11] <NotiCon> asnoehu: why would you want to disable beds?
#396 [11:12] <Kealper> hmm
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#398 [11:12] <Kealper> BlackDeath: build a trap that kills the sheep with dispensers filled with arrows
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#400 [11:13] <Morrolan> BlackDeath: Apart from killing them with arrows, as Kealper said, there is no way to do this.
#401 [11:13] <NotiCon> other than hitting them oneself
#402 [11:14] <Tanjoodo> Guestimnottypingthatnumber: You should know your computer's IP address (local IP, that is) to be able to connect to your server through your private network.
#403 [11:14] <sheppycider123> is there a channel fr mod support
#404 [11:14] <Morrolan> Guest: Uhm, if you want to connect from a PC on the same network as the server is then... just start the server and connect to it with the internal IP.
#405 [11:14] <Morrolan> sheppycider123: #risucraft
#406 [11:14] <Kealper> Tanjoodo: type gu then press your tab key :/
#407 [11:14] <sheppycider123> thanks
#408 [11:14] <Tanjoodo> Kealper: I didn't know that one XD
#409 [11:14] <Kealper> :P
#410 [11:16] <Kealper> if more than one nick starts with what you typed then it will cycle though all nicks that start with that
#411 [11:16] <Guest24827> tryed and failed to conect using same pc as server
#412 [11:16] <Kealper> like, typing k and then pressing tab a few times will let you cycle though all nicks starting with k, but typing kea and pressing tab will always bring you to my name since there are no other nicks in here that start with kea
#413 [11:17] <Morrolan> Guest: If it's the same pc then type in "localhost" in the ip field.
#414 [11:17] <Tanjoodo> Guest24827: To know your IP in Windows, open a command prompt and type ipconfig, which should give you all the network stuff. Look for IPV4 and copy the IP
#415 [11:18] <Guest24827> the ipv4 is what i used
#416 [11:18] <Morrolan> Well, what did it say then?
#417 [11:18] <Morrolan> The error I mean.
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#419 [11:19] <Guest24827> when using the ipv4 on netork computer it simply times out
#420 [11:19] <Morrolan> Make sure that you security software isn't blocking it.
#421 [11:20] <Tanjoodo> Is there a loopback block setting in Minecraft Server?
#422 [11:20] <Kealper> no
#423 [11:20] <Tanjoodo> OK, one less thing to worry about.
#424 [11:20] <Kealper> but there is a way to set a specific IP to be bound (which should never be touched unless you have to change it)
#425 [11:20] <Guest24827> from same pc as server i got connection refused: connect
#426 [11:21] <Kealper> so... Guest24827 have you ever changed server.properties?
#427 [11:21] <Guest24827> ..... yes and no i have done it but not well experenced
#428 [11:22] <Kealper> did you change the server-ip line?>
#429 [11:22] <Kealper> ?*
#430 [11:23] <Guest24827> i havent changed anything in the minecraft server yet
#431 [11:23] <Kealper> oh
#432 [11:23] <Kealper> and you don't have any firewalls or anything blocking it?
#433 [11:23] <Kealper> (including windows firewall, contrary to popular belief, that actually does work)
#434 [11:24] <Guest24827> windows firewall maybe it hasnt prompted me to allow it yet
#435 [11:24] <Tanjoodo> "<@Kealper> (including windows firewall, contrary to popular belief, that actually does work)" XD
#436 [11:24] <Kealper> go into the control panel and disable it and then try connecting to see if it works
#437 [11:25] <Kealper> Tanjoodo: :P
#438 [11:25] <Guest24827> all security software disabled and nothing
#439 [11:26] <Kealper> hmm...
#440 [11:27] <Kealper> can you connect to it using the IP 127.0.0.1?
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#442 [11:28] <Guest24827> on same pc threw "localhost" "127.0.0.1" and the ipv4 same responce still connection refused connect
#443 [11:28] <Tanjoodo> Restart the server
#444 [11:29] <Kealper> the server is running, right? lol
#445 [11:29] <Guest24827> yes
#446 [11:29] <Tanjoodo> Could the problem be with the router?
#447 [11:30] <Guest24827> no
#448 [11:30] <Kealper> bleh, gotta run for a few hours, afk
#449 [11:31] <Guest24827> otherwise i couldn't use the server as an ftp server
#450 [11:31] <Tanjoodo> OK, so what port in the server using?
#451 [11:31] <Tanjoodo> is*
#452 [11:32] <Guest24827> 1908 atm but dont know how to change the minecraft servers port
#453 [11:32] <Tanjoodo> OK, try 127.0.0.1:1908
#454 [11:33] <NotiCon> that would only let him connect to his ftp ._.
#455 [11:33] <Tanjoodo> Umm, Guest24827, what port does your FTP server run on?
#456 [11:34] <Guest24827> 1908
#457 [11:34] <Guest24827> atm its shut down and minecraft is running
#458 [11:35] <NotiCon> you setup rules for your ftp server in the router?
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#460 [11:35] <Guest24827> yes the intenchen was to shut down ftp and turn on minecraft
#461 [11:37] <Tanjoodo> Well, try setting a different port to minecraft via the server.settings file
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#463 [11:37] <Guest24827> where would i find that?
#464 [11:38] <Tanjoodo> In where the server is, I think it's in %appdata%/.minecraft Server
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#466 [11:38] <NotiCon> no
#467 [11:38] <NotiCon> where you launch the server.jar/exe file from
#468 [11:38] <Tanjoodo> ^
#469 [11:39] <Tanjoodo> Open it with notepad
#470 [11:39] <Tanjoodo> (of course, I am still assuming you use Windows)
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#472 [11:40] <Guest24827> .... i know how to edit it but i still cant find it ...........!!!!!!!!
#473 [11:40] <Tanjoodo> That's weird.
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#477 [11:45] <Guest24827> if it was having problems generating a world would that refuse conection?
#478 [11:46] <Tanjoodo> I don't think so.
#479 [11:46] <NotiCon> if itsnt runninng or have a world then it isnt up
#480 [11:46] <Guest24827> cause i just moved the server exe to hard drive with easy acsess and it did something difrent
#481 [11:47] <Tanjoodo> Well then, try connecting again.
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#483 [11:48] <MrCrashdummy> Hi guys
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#485 [11:49] <oldtopman> MrCrashdummy: Hi!
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#487 [11:50] <Guest24827> tan would server ip in the server propertys be where i set what port?
#488 [11:50] <Guest24827> or the host ip?
#489 [11:51] <Tanjoodo> No, there should be a port thing
#490 [11:51] <Tanjoodo> wait, I'll check
#491 [11:52] <Tanjoodo> There should be a server-port=x setting
#492 [11:52] <Guest24827> i think its working
#493 [11:53] <Guest24827> ..... i cotn some changes from server but still smae on client
#494 [11:54] <Tanjoodo> Did you set the port?
#495 [11:54] <Guest24827> yes
#496 [11:55] <Tanjoodo> Then use the 127.0.0.1:<port> thing
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#498 [11:57] <Guest24827> IT IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you
#499 [11:58] <Tanjoodo> No problem :)
#500 [11:58] <Guest24827> now to see if another network pc can conect
#501 [11:58] <Tanjoodo> No use the IPv4 not the 127.0.0.1
#502 [11:58] <Tanjoodo> Now*
#503 [11:59] <Guest24827> any good world seeds?
#504 [12:00] <Tanjoodo> Not that I know of.
#505 [12:01] <Morrolan> Well, Glacier is kinda nice, but it's a bit overused, since it is very popular.
#506 [12:01] <Morrolan> Just google for "Minecraft seeds" though, you'll find a lot.
#507 [12:02] <MrCrashdummy> erm... 404
#508 [12:02] <xolotl> I've been thinking that it's kind of sad that so many people are probably just playing on "popular" seeds, rather than just exploring random new ones
#509 [12:03] <xolotl> For, you know, varying values of "sad."
#510 [12:03] <xolotl> #firstworldproblem
#511 [12:03] <MrCrashdummy> try 404 !
#512 [12:03] <xolotl> Yes yes, I've looked at the 404 challenge
#513 [12:03] <xolotl> And many others
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#515 [12:03] <xolotl> Whenever I actually play, though, I make a point to let Minecraft pick one randomly for me
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#517 [12:04] <Guest24827> is there a way to find out what seed your on?
#518 [12:04] <bobinton> I am getting errors I THINK are world corruption chunk errors. Can someone help me? http://pastebin.com/6UPH3fwP
#519 [12:05] <NotiCon> Guest24827: the level.dat file contains it iirc
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#521 [12:05] <Guest24827> where would i find that?
#522 [12:06] <NotiCon> somewhere where your server.exe file is at iirc
#523 [12:07] <MrCrashdummy> There is a webiste for this Guest24827
#524 [12:07] <Guest24827> i was refering to finding the seed of a singel player world i liked
#525 [12:07] <NotiCon> oh
#526 [12:08] <bobinton> I am getting errors I THINK are world corruption chunk errors. Can someone help me? http://pastebin.com/6UPH3fwP
#527 [12:08] <NotiCon> then in the %appdata%/.minecraft/saves and find that world
#528 [12:08] <NotiCon> there should be a level.dat somewhere
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#531 [12:11] <relsqui> bobinton: most people here can't or won't support modded minecraft (usually both). try #bukkit or #risucraft
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#533 [12:11] <SenorC> hi there everyone. who's awake?
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#535 [12:13] <SenorC> hmm... bugger
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#537 [12:19] <Tanjoodo> SenorC: What's the problem?
#538 [12:21] <bobinton> relsqui I have posted this problem in multiple places and they all same either "we don't help with modded minecraft" or "that is not our programs fault try minecrafthelp"
#539 [12:21] <SenorC> does mojang have the ability to see if an account is active under and alpha or beta code?
#540 [12:21] <bobinton> There is not guides online that explain how to do it... no youtube videos either.
#541 [12:21] <bobinton> It is a simple question..I have errors.... http://pastebin.com/6UPH3fwP ... how do I fix?
#542 [12:21] <Tanjoodo> bobinton: Is it a bukkit mod?
#543 [12:22] <bobinton> I have narrowed it down world corruption...
#544 [12:22] <bobinton> tanjoodo would it help if I said it is a mod related problem that randomly happend?
#545 [12:22] <bobinton> Don't know what mod...
#546 [12:22] <bobinton> Don't know when.. just know that the world is corrupt and I need to fix it.
#547 [12:23] <bobinton> I can blame it on bukkit.. but that wouldn't do any good.
#548 [12:23] <Tanjoodo> SenorC: I don't know.
#549 [12:24] <Tanjoodo> bobinton: Is the plugin compatible with the version you are using?
#550 [12:24] <bobinton> yes.
#551 [12:24] <Tanjoodo> "java.io.IOException: Not in GZIP format"
#552 [12:24] <Tanjoodo> Here is your problem.
#553 [12:24] <bobinton> explain please.
#554 [12:24] <Tanjoodo> But I have no idea how to fix it.
#555 [12:25] <bobinton> I know there is alot of errors that are my problem bud.
#556 [12:25] <Tanjoodo> It seems that the world is not using the GZIP compression format.
#557 [12:25] <Tanjoodo> The problem seems to be mostly with corrupt files or something.
#558 [12:26] <NotiCon> bobinton: if its mod related problem you should try bukkit or risucraft
#559 [12:27] <bobinton> noticon please scroll up and read my posts.
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#561 [12:28] <bobinton> It probably IS NOT mod related.
#562 [12:28] <_303> open the map in mcedit or something and delete the corrupted chunks somehow maybe?
#563 [12:28] <bobinton> Stop giving me the run around buddy.
#564 [12:28] <bobinton> _303 how do I identify corrupted chunks?
#565 [12:28] <bobinton> What do they look like?
#566 [12:29] <_303> the program would complain which are corrupted I guess
#567 [12:29] <Tanjoodo> ^
#568 [12:30] <NotiCon> bobinton: #bukkit and #risucraft helps with mod issues
#569 [12:30] <bobinton> You guess? Because I have used MCEdit.. and there isn't any prompts that I can see. Have you used it even?
#570 [12:31] <NotiCon> if you have used mcedit then that could be the case
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#572 [12:31] <bobinton> NotiCon ......... shuddup... I said multiple times they won't help me because they said it isn't there programs fault...
#573 [12:31] <bobinton> They sent me here.
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#575 [12:31] <VoxelHead> M to the O R N I N G
#576 [12:32] * Morrolan gives Vox a cup of coffee
#576 [12:32] <VoxelHead> thansk
#577 [12:32] <VoxelHead> mmmmm...
#578 [12:32] * VoxelHead drinks the coffee =]
#578 [12:33] * VoxelHead finishes the coffee
#578 [12:33] <VoxelHead> mmmm... thanks :)
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#587 [12:41] <napoleon> my minecraft closes every 5 min
#588 [12:41] <napoleon> help???
#589 [12:42] <Morrolan> Does it give you an error when it closes?
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#592 [12:43] <Morrolan> Aetherian: Why are you logged in with two nicknames? ^^
#593 [12:43] <napoleon> no the screen became black and it stahds minecraft have no reaction
#594 [12:43] <the_late_man> because my computer fails, Morrolan.
#595 [12:43] <the_late_man> or rather, this panel thing does.
#596 [12:43] <Morrolan> Fair enouh. :)
#597 [12:43] <Morrolan> enough*
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#600 [12:44] <napoleon> can someone help me my mc closed ervery 5 mins
#601 [12:45] <napoleon> help?
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#603 [12:46] <napoleon> help
#604 [12:47] <napoleon> please can someone help me :(((
#605 [12:47] <napoleon> :(
#606 [12:48] <napoleon> my mc closes every 5 mins in single and multiplayer
#607 [12:48] <aetherian> it just closes
#608 [12:48] <aetherian> no error report
#609 [12:48] <aetherian> no black screen
#610 [12:48] <napoleon> no the screen become black
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#612 [12:49] <napoleon> and there stands minecraft(no reaction)
#613 [12:49] <napoleon> on the top
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#615 [12:50] <napoleon> pls can someone help me????? :(
#616 [12:50] <aetherian> well
#617 [12:50] <aetherian> I assume java is updated
#618 [12:51] <napoleon> ???
#619 [12:51] <napoleon> thx good idea i test it
#620 [12:51] <aetherian> ngyah
#621 [12:52] <napoleon> where can i look that my java have the newest update??
#622 [12:53] <aetherian> press win-R
#623 [12:53] <aetherian> win = windows key
#624 [12:53] <aetherian> type in cmd
#625 [12:53] <aetherian> hit enter
#626 [12:54] <_303> aetherian: he's long gone
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#628 [12:54] <aetherian> oh
#629 [12:54] <aetherian> wow
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#631 [12:56] <smmaelt_> shit happens
#632 [12:56] <VoxelHead> shit happens... shappens
#633 [12:57] <smmaelt_> hello
#634 [12:57] <aetherian> :>
#635 [12:57] <VoxelHead> :-)
#636 [12:58] <Guest24827> is there a way to use a singel player data as a load for server?
#637 [12:58] <aetherian> as in
#638 [12:58] <aetherian> the world?
#639 [12:59] <Guest24827> yes in singel player made a nice house and all that is there a way to use that as the world for server
#640 [12:59] <aetherian> yes
#641 [12:59] <aetherian> do you know where your appdata is?
#642 [13:00] <Guest24827> i have the singel player world data highlited atm
#643 [13:00] <aetherian> and do you have a server that's been run at least once?
#644 [13:00] <Guest24827> ya
#645 [13:01] <aetherian> move, copy, whatever the single player world data into the same folder as the server
#646 [13:03] <Guest24827> into the servers world folder?? or just the world folder?
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#648 [13:03] <aetherian> ...
#649 [13:04] <aetherian> do what I said
#650 [13:04] <aetherian> copy it into the same directory as minecraft_server.jar
#651 [13:04] <Guest24827> have world 3 singel player data i want and "world" atm in the server folder
#652 [13:04] <aetherian> are you even listening to me?
#653 [13:05] <Guest24827> yes and trying to get clarifacation on something
#654 [13:05] <aetherian> ...
#655 [13:05] <aetherian> let's start from the beginning
#656 [13:06] <aetherian> press windows_key+r
#657 [13:06] <Guest24827> atm the worold data is where i think you asked it to be right nect to the server jar
#658 [13:07] <aetherian> and what is the name of the folder that encapsulates the world data that you want to be used
#659 [13:07] <Guest24827> world3
#660 [13:07] <aetherian> great
#661 [13:07] <aetherian> now go into server.properties
#662 [13:08] <Guest24827> done
#663 [13:08] <aetherian> there should be some line specifying what world to use
#664 [13:08] <aetherian> change what's after the '=' to world3
#665 [13:08] <Guest24827> turn from world to world3?
#666 [13:09] <aetherian> yeah
#667 [13:10] <Guest24827> sweet
#668 [13:11] <aetherian> great, and I'll be back.
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#670 [13:12] <Mr_CandyFlyp> Anyone here familiar with Tectonicus?
#671 [13:12] <VoxelHead> certainly not
#672 [13:12] <winzig> Hello! Quick question about AuBot. Where does it pull its information about account payment from?
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#675 [13:13] <Steve[cug]> for you guys wanting to run a mc server: http://bukget.org/blog/
#676 [13:13] <MrCrashdummy> Bukget?
#677 [13:14] <Steve[cug]> it points to bukkit, not the vanilla server though
#678 [13:14] <Steve[cug]> MrCrashdummy: yup. for "bukkit get"
#679 [13:14] <Mr_CandyFlyp> bukkit > vanilla server, even if not using mods :D
#680 [13:14] <Mr_CandyFlyp> yay for easy autobackup
#681 [13:14] <Steve[cug]> Mr_CandyFlyp: I agree
#682 [13:14] <MrCrashdummy> Steve[cug]: Sounds cool, but I have my own server
#683 [13:14] <Mr_CandyFlyp> it's lighter weight
#684 [13:14] <Steve[cug]> yeah
#685 [13:15] <Steve[cug]> I'm still working on the plugin repository
#686 [13:15] <Steve[cug]> so the code is coming along
#687 [13:15] <Steve[cug]> at this point I just need feedback :-p
#688 [13:16] <sheppycider123_> any way to reduce the downlaod of Minecraft when playing it online, (I'm using my phone atm(hotspot)and have a limit)?
#689 [13:16] <Steve[cug]> sheppycider123_: yeah, use the new launcher
#690 [13:16] <aetherian> not easily, that's for sure
#691 [13:16] <sheppycider123_> I do use the new launcher
#692 [13:16] <sheppycider123_> Bum
#693 [13:16] <Steve[cug]> new launcher == will not auto-pull the mc binaries
#694 [13:16] <Mr_CandyFlyp> so no one here is familiar with tectonicus?
#695 [13:17] <_303> winzig: from http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=winzig
#696 [13:17] <Steve[cug]> Mr_CandyFlyp: neg
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#698 [13:21] <winzig> _303: I see. Any idea how it works beyond that?
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#700 [13:24] <Mr_CandyFlyp> Anyone know why a map would render fine in one renderer but not another, while all my other maps render fine in both?
#701 [13:24] <urablahblah> I am having an issue with the brightness level.
#702 [13:25] <aetherian> howso, urablahblah
#703 [13:26] <urablahblah> Well, it has been running fine until today.
#704 [13:26] <urablahblah> Now it is so dark, even in lit areas it is nearly unseeable.
#705 [13:27] <urablahblah> I have disabled my texture pack and fancy graphics to no avail.
#706 [13:28] <m0nk> brightness on 50%
#707 [13:28] <Mr_CandyFlyp> backup your .jar and then delete it (keeping the backup)
#708 [13:28] <Mr_CandyFlyp> let minecraft redownload it
#709 [13:28] <Mr_CandyFlyp> see if that helps
#710 [13:28] <Mr_CandyFlyp> if not, it's a deeper issue
#711 [13:28] <urablahblah> Do you know where the .jar file is housed?
#712 [13:28] <Mr_CandyFlyp> yeah
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#714 [13:28] <Mr_CandyFlyp> %appdata%/roaming/.minecraft/bin/
#715 [13:28] <Mr_CandyFlyp> or
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#717 [13:29] <Mr_CandyFlyp> c:/users/<username>/appdata/roaming/.minecraft/bin/
#718 [13:29] <Mr_CandyFlyp> where "C:" == your local drive
#719 [13:29] <urablahblah> Right, I understand.
#720 [13:29] <Mr_CandyFlyp> =^_^=
#721 [13:30] <m0nk> =(/&%&(
#722 [13:30] <Mr_CandyFlyp> =o.O=
#723 [13:31] * Mr_CandyFlyp cuts off m0nk
#723 [13:31] <Mr_CandyFlyp> no more for you
#724 [13:31] * m0nk sets Mr_CandyFlyp's intrails on fire..
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#726 [13:33] <Mr_CandyFlyp> urablahblah: did that help?
#727 [13:34] <urablahblah> Yeah, I believe so. It was not that file specifically, but I'm tracking it down to see where the error occured.
#728 [13:34] <urablahblah> Thank you for the assistance.
#729 [13:34] <Mr_CandyFlyp> you are welcome =^_^=
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#735 [13:51] <urablahblah> Okay, I've chased down the cause of the brightness error.
#736 [13:51] <urablahblah> Any time I try to use a texture pack, the brightness goes way down.
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#738 [13:52] <Diablodoct0r> I got 303's arrow mod - Is there any way to get those arrows to be infinite in singleplayer?
#739 [13:52] <xales> TooManyItems probably
#740 [13:53] <xales> or ask 303
#741 [13:53] <Diablodoct0r> TooManyItems gives arrows
#742 [13:54] <Diablodoct0r> However, it does not mod items to become infinite, and arrows can't be made infinite even with INVEdit
#743 [13:54] <Diablodoct0r> :/
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#748 [14:13] <i81u812> having troubles with controls on mc any fixes for it?
#749 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> define 'troubles'.
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#751 [14:14] <i81u812> steve wont move unless holding ctrl same trouble as deined in many google searches will jump
#752 [14:15] <i81u812> defined
#753 [14:15] <i81u812> it does scroll through items though
#754 [14:15] <i81u812> when i press w
#755 [14:16] <xales> Are you using mods?
#756 [14:16] <i81u812> nope
#757 [14:17] <i81u812> i did just dl some... but then deleted before installing in case that was the case
#758 [14:17] <xales> ??> i81u812 win/reinst
#759 [14:17] <VoxelHead> i81u812: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#760 [14:17] <VoxelHead> i81u812: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#761 [14:17] <i81u812> yes I know run and app data im about to do that now
#762 [14:18] <i81u812> but it was just odd since I had done nothing to provoke this
#763 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> As Patrick Norton once said on live television: "You know, sometimes Windows just does some funky shit."
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#765 [14:20] <i81u812> I just did a quick saves copypasta then ill reset bin .. I did install some xfinity comcast bs I hope thats not it
#766 [14:21] <i81u812> still doing it.....
#767 [14:21] <i81u812> complete re install on the way
#768 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> If that doesn't do it..
#769 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/profile
#770 [14:22] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#771 [14:22] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#772 [14:22] <i81u812> it just keeps moving forward when i press w and picks differ. items on my item bar
#773 [14:22] <i81u812> lol system Is brand new I built it less than a month ago....
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#775 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> do you have any gamepads or joysticks or what-have-you plugged in?
#776 [14:23] <i81u812> but yeah Ill give it a go
#777 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> ICSTR whether Minecraft is gamepad-aware
#778 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> but if it is, in the menu, turn them off, or just unplug them if you have them
#779 [14:23] <i81u812> nope just my rf keyboard and mouse which I have used for th entirety of the life of this pc
#780 [14:24] <i81u812> not batteries.... replaced with new ones
#781 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> what version of Java have you got installed?
#782 [14:27] <i81u812> im sure new one lemme check
#783 [14:27] <i81u812> 6
#784 [14:27] <i81u812> update 24
#785 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> okay
#786 [14:28] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: i81u812 what ist the problem?
#787 [14:28] <i81u812> controls on minecraft not working correctly
#788 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> try creating a new Windows user and seeing if the problem is still extant there
#789 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> McPlusPlus: phantom input
#790 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> er, MrCrashdummy
#791 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> (I always do that and I do not know why)
#792 [14:29] <MrCrashdummy> ;)
#793 [14:29] <MrCrashdummy> okay, what did you try already?
#794 [14:29] <i81u812> tried new minecraft new map
#795 [14:30] <i81u812> im closing processes now
#796 [14:31] <MrCrashdummy> Is the problem only in minecraft?
#797 [14:31] <i81u812> yes
#798 [14:32] <MrCrashdummy> wireless keyboard?
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#800 [14:32] <i81u812> im trying to uninstall constant gaurd by xfinity my only app installed since yesterday
#801 [14:32] <i81u812> rf rocketfish keyb
#802 [14:32] <xales> If I had to guess, that would be your problem ._.
#803 [14:32] <i81u812> & 89012 34567 89 012 34567 89 01234 567 8901234567 8901@
#804 [14:32] <MrCrashdummy> wireless keyboard?
#805 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> gesundheit
#806 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: 'RF' implies wireless
#807 [14:33] <MrCrashdummy> What?
#808 [14:33] <MrCrashdummy> xD
#809 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> Radio Frequency.
#810 [14:33] <MrCrashdummy> yes yes
#811 [14:33] <i81u812> 012
#812 [14:33] <Keltinray> Wireless keyboards are horrible piles of junk. You should throw it out.
#813 [14:33] <MrCrashdummy> but what does that code mean?
#814 [14:34] <MrCrashdummy> I know what RF means -_-
#815 [14:34] <Kouken> I quite like my wireless keyboard
#816 [14:34] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: are you German? Oo
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#818 [14:36] <i81u812> WELL WTF
#819 [14:36] <i81u812> I just uninstalled comcast software and thats what happened
#820 [14:36] <MrCrashdummy> ?
#821 [14:36] <i81u812> only numbers all over my keyb....
#822 [14:37] <i81u812> thats why my words =#s
#823 [14:37] <MrCrashdummy> Oh, what were you saing?
#824 [14:37] <MrCrashdummy> *saying
#825 [14:37] <i81u812> I said &8902...
#826 [14:37] <i81u812> I dont remember
#827 [14:38] <MrCrashdummy> :P
#828 [14:38] <MrCrashdummy> Is it fixed now?
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#830 [14:39] <i81u812> idk but Im not suprised when i went to complaint page on comcast....
#831 [14:39] <i81u812> Server Error in '/support' Application.
#832 [14:40] <MrCrashdummy> :P
#833 [14:41] <i81u812> it appears to be better now...note to self never install xfinity constant gaurd
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#835 [14:42] <MrCrashdummy> Haha ;)
#836 [14:45] <i81u812> brb java update restart pc
#837 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: Why do you ask?
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#840 [14:45] <shaddix> how do i change my name ._.
#841 [14:46] <shaddix> i registered account as my full naem but i don't want that to be my in game name
#842 [14:46] <xales> You can't
#843 [14:47] <Kouken> It's impossible
#844 [14:47] <shaddix> well balls
#845 [14:47] <shaddix> is there a way to cancel/close account?
#846 [14:47] <shaddix> so i can use normal email on new account
#847 [14:47] <Kouken> If you join a server though, some might have a plugin to let you use a nickname
#848 [14:47] <xales> Nope
#849 [14:47] <Kouken> Can't you contact Mojang with proof of purchase to do that?
#850 [14:47] <MrCrashdummy> no
#851 [14:47] <shaddix> oh ok i will check the server then maybe htye can
#852 [14:47] <xales> There might be a way in the future to change email, but that was abused extensively last time it was there
#853 [14:48] <xales> Kouken: Not likely
#854 [14:48] <shaddix> otherwise what is best thing to do? Just make new account and buy again?
#855 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> shaddix: did you buy within the last week?
#856 [14:48] <shaddix> i just bought it
#857 [14:48] <Kouken> I believe so Shaddix
#858 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> if so, get a refund, and rebuy with the account name you actually want
#859 [14:48] <xales> ^
#860 [14:48] <shaddix> ahh okay
#861 [14:48] <shaddix> thank you sir!
#862 [14:48] <DopeGhoti> That'll be $8 (:
#863 [14:48] <shaddix> lol
#864 [14:48] <Kouken> Or as my dad would say, 800 pennies
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#866 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> 160 nickels will do.
#867 [14:51] <Kouken> how about 80 dimes?
#868 [14:51] <Kouken> Dimes are easy to lose though
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#870 [14:54] <i81u812> seems fine now
#871 [14:54] <i81u812> it was that program as far as I cant tell
#872 [14:54] <i81u812> can*
#873 [14:54] <i81u812> wtf
#874 [14:54] <MrCrashdummy> i81u812: okay ;)
#875 [14:56] <i81u812> I just came back to let you know to add that to a list of problems
#876 [14:56] <i81u812> it could have just been it minecraft and my drivers for my kb for all I know
#877 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> ??+ phantominput|If you installed some utility from Comcast, and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane, uninstall it.
#878 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> thanks for letting us know, i81u812; glad you're back up and running
#879 [14:57] <xales> ??~ phantominput|If you installed some utility from Comcast, and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, emancipate it.
#880 [14:57] <i81u812> me too except I lost all my achievements and stats also
#881 [14:57] <xales> :)
#882 [14:57] <i81u812> 45k blocks of work proven down the drain
#883 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> i81u812: I thought you said you copy/pasted the contents of .minecraft.. just put it back?
#884 [14:58] <i81u812> nope I just did the saves
#885 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> ah
#886 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> :/
#887 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> TBH, that info _should_ be in the saves, or synced with your profile at mc.net.
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#889 [14:58] <i81u812> its Ok im not nearly finished with my castle it takes forever without mods
#890 [14:58] <Kriss95> someone here good at Eclipse?
#891 [14:58] <i81u812> well mayb it is then
#892 [14:59] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: no, the achievements and stats are saved locally
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#894 [14:59] <xales> Kriss95: #risucraft might be better able to help you with modding
#895 [14:59] <xales> (otherwise, #eclipse on Freenode)
#896 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: I know they are. Hence use of 'should', as in 'ought to'.
#897 [14:59] <Kriss95> ok, i will try the eclipse one
#898 [14:59] <i81u812> I should have but next time i ought to
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#900 [15:00] <kickmyassman> hello hello?
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#902 [15:00] <Morrolan> Hey
#903 [15:00] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: Ah, okay ;) I agree with you. This is not so nice for me either. I have 2 pc's
#904 [15:01] <MrCrashdummy> I can hear my phone ringinringing
#905 [15:01] <kickmyassman> Morrolan: Hi there!
#906 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: I have several PCs with several OSs on them.
#907 [15:01] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: Me to, I love Linux :D
#908 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> fortunately, the bulk of my gameplay is on the Linux partition of my Game PC
#909 [15:02] <xales> ^
#910 [15:02] <MrCrashdummy> ^
#911 [15:02] <i81u812> I had to build a new pc my epox board died kinda.. I still havent booted dual os's on this yet
#912 [15:02] <xales> DopeGhoti: If you examine the Portal 2 start files, it does a check for Linux and sets an appropriate LD_LIBRARY_PATH
#913 [15:02] <MrCrashdummy> epox ?
#914 [15:02] <MrCrashdummy> !wiki epox
#915 [15:02] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPoX
#916 [15:02] <GreyBot> EPoX was a manufacturer of motherboards, video cards and communication products. They manufactured mainboards for AMD and Intel processors, which are renowned for being overclocker-friendly yet affordable. Many of their products used the same StudlyCaps naming convention as the company itself.
#917 [15:02] <xales> I think there may be a Steam for Linux someday
#918 [15:03] <MrCrashdummy> ^^
#919 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> xales: sure that's not just a POSIX check for the Mac port?
#920 [15:03] <kickmyassman> xales: we can all dream, can't we?
#921 [15:03] <i81u812> it was the best board ever.. kinda
#922 [15:03] <xales> DopeGhoti: Nope, it checks `uname` _specifically_ for "Linux"
#923 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> neat.
#924 [15:03] <xales> There's a seperate condition for Darwin
#925 [15:03] <m0nk> anyone found the solution to black stairs?
#926 [15:03] <xales> m0nk: It's a known bug. Wait for a fix
#927 [15:03] <kickmyassman> xales: did you read the entry in phoronix as well?
#928 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> that reminds me, I can catch up on my web comics now that I've finished P2
#929 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> m0nk: other than re-lighting?
#930 [15:04] <MrCrashdummy> m0nk: yes,\
#931 [15:04] <MrCrashdummy> m0nk: do you have smooth lightning off?
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#933 [15:04] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: you have web comics?
#934 [15:04] <i81u812> this board is a tiny foxconn but its a great little board.
#935 [15:04] <m0nk> smooth lighting fixed it
#936 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: no, but I have not been reading them from the release of Portal 2 until now
#937 [15:04] <m0nk> smooth lihtning :P
#938 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> m0nk: yes, but smooth lighting is crap.
#939 [15:05] <m0nk> whats better then. 3d analglyph?
#940 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> it flies in the face of the entire motif of the game.
#941 [15:05] <m0nk> i dont even have 3d glasses.
#942 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> actually, 3d Anaglyph works quite nicely
#943 [15:06] <kickmyassman> So I'm looking for some help with a weird (but I think harmless) issue with minecraft server 1.5_02: I get the following on bootup "[Lmp;@4d61f10f \n146 recipes \n [Lmp;@4d61f10f \n 16 achievements"
#944 [15:06] <i81u812> I need to get some glasses for that sh*t I wanna see 3d
#945 [15:06] <kickmyassman> trying to figure out if it's going to corrupt anything
#946 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> ??> kickmyassman normal
#947 [15:06] <xales> kickmyassman: That's the server mod you are using, and it's normal
#948 [15:06] <VoxelHead> kickmyassman: (normal) That message is perfectly normal, and happens all the time. However, if the console is spamming it or it occurs very frequently, then it is indicating that the machine is not powerful enough to run the server.
#949 [15:06] <kickmyassman> hm
#950 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> morning, Zw
#951 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> kickmyassman: (that FAQ is generally for 'Can't keep up!', but the point is, the weirdness around the messages is safe to ignore)
#952 [15:07] <kickmyassman> well
#953 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> oh.. Happy Fiveo the Mayo, #minecrafthelp!
#954 [15:08] <NotiCon> eh?
#955 [15:08] <Zw> Hi Dope!
#956 [15:08] <kickmyassman> DopeGhoti: the problem is that it's putting that instead of the usual "stats 101" and what not
#957 [15:08] <kickmyassman> DopeGhoti: it was working fine up until the _02 update
#958 [15:09] <xales> kickmyassman: Are you using Bukkit/Canary?
#959 [15:09] <kickmyassman> xales: no, this is the unaltered minecraft_server.jar
#960 [15:09] <xales> Interesting
#961 [15:09] <xales> It's still normal though
#962 [15:10] <kickmyassman> xales: fair enough, I guess I just found the fact that it happened in the update but not before weird
#963 [15:10] <xales> It's debugging code
#964 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> kickmyassman: I think that notch (or someone) tried to get fancy and use ANSI colour codes, and failed at it
#965 [15:10] <xales> that probably was neglected to remove
#966 [15:10] <xales> grammar fail
#967 [15:10] <xales> ._.
#968 [15:10] <kickmyassman> DopeGhoti: makes sense, it did look like color codes
#969 [15:11] <kickmyassman> xales: haha, no worries
#970 [15:11] <xales> Color code with a memory address after it
#971 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> like I said. Ey failed at it. (:
#972 [15:12] <Zw> i wonder, my server lagg as hell (in some areas) but i run on i7, 10gb ram dedicated to server + ram disk :s
#973 [15:12] <kickmyassman> gotcha
#974 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> Zw: what do you mean 'in some areas'?
#975 [15:12] <kickmyassman> Zw: literal ping lag would make the server look really laggy
#976 [15:12] <kickmyassman> Zw: also, how do you boot it up?
#977 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> do you mean people from some areas in meatspace get lag, or that some area of the server map are laggy?
#978 [15:13] <NotiCon> Zw: you have java 64bit and you made those 10gb ram for the server aswell?
#979 [15:13] <Zw> In spawn, its no lagg. In other areas it lagg as hell. Some built in, some not
#980 [15:13] <Zw> 64bit yes
#981 [15:13] <Zw> ubuntu64bit
#982 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> (there is only one 'g' in 'lag' by the way (: )
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#984 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> okay, so it's specific to certain areas of the server itself?
#985 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> Might there be, for example, magmalake-engendered forest fires in those areas?
#986 [15:14] <Zw> Dope, not in Norway ^^
#987 [15:14] <Zw> Kickmyassman: "java -server -d64 -Xmx10G -Xms10G -jar craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar nogui"
#988 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> aha
#989 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> try running without any mods
#990 [15:15] <Zw> hehe ;-p
#991 [15:15] <Zw> only using _must_ mods :P
#992 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> ..I am not kidding.
#993 [15:15] <MrCrashdummy> Zw what are must mods?
#994 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> Try it without the mods and see if the lag goes away.
#995 [15:15] <Zw> WorldGuard, Essentials
#996 [15:15] <Zw> NoFireSpread, block logging , /home function
#997 [15:16] <Zw> at least for my users
#998 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> it's probably a forest fire arguing with NoFireSpread
#999 [15:16] <kickmyassman> Zw: ah, okay, I was making sure the -Xmx and -Xms were uppe to utilize more ram
#1000 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> try disabling the mods.
#1001 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> (by which I mean running a vanilla .jar)
#1002 [15:16] <Zw> well, i have 10G
#1003 [15:16] <Zw> sould be more than good enough
#1004 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> if that fixes the lag, add your mods back, _one at a time_
#1005 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> when the lag comes back, you know which mod is the problem.
#1006 [15:17] <Zw> but it is so random, so hard to find :P
#1007 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> you said it was certain areas
#1008 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> that's the sort of problem you will have with running mods- they're nigh-impossible for us to support.
#1009 [15:19] <Zw> #Bukkit blames Minecraft, Minecraft blame Bukkit ;)
#1010 [15:19] <kickmyassman> thanks everyone for the help, sorry for being a total newbie with IRC
#1011 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Zw: that may be, but I have given you an emperical test you can use to determine exactly where the problem is
#1012 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> kickmyassman: we're delighted to be of assistance
#1013 [15:22] <Zw> Well well, but g2g :P
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#1015 [15:23] <Zw> new job , new tasks waiting
#1016 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> ciao, Zw
#1017 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> and good luck
#1018 [15:23] <Zw> tnx, byebye
#1019 [15:24] <m0nk> why does the door open when i place a pressure pad?
#1020 [15:24] <m0nk> and close when i step on it?
#1021 [15:25] <NotiCon> you placed it next to the door?
#1022 [15:25] <m0nk> right in front of it
#1023 [15:25] <xales> m0nk: Is it a double door?
#1024 [15:25] <m0nk> yes
#1025 [15:27] <dolseni> if it is closed and opens when you place the pressure pad and closes when you stand on it... have you tried opening the door and THEN placing the pressure pad to see what happens?
#1026 [15:27] <m0nk> yes. same thing
#1027 [15:28] <m0nk> its closed. i place pressure pad. it opens
#1028 [15:28] <dolseni> well i don't know then. sounds like your shits fucked
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#1030 [15:30] <m0nk> do i need to do it like this
#1031 [15:30] <m0nk> http://1001how2.com/building-in-minecraft-double-doors/
#1032 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> m0nk: you need a NOT gate between your pad and the door
#1033 [15:33] <m0nk> a NOT gatE?
#1034 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> a NOT gate, yes. (also known as an inverter, or RS torch that takes the pad's signal as input)
#1035 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> (and passes its output to the block under the door)
#1036 [15:35] <m0nk> if i place pad when it is open it just stays like that. and closes when i step on the pressure pad
#1037 [15:35] <m0nk> like in the youtube link?
#1038 [15:35] <m0nk> link with the video?
#1039 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> @W; CY
#1040 [15:38] <xales> DopeGhoti: I had an idea for a megaproject
#1041 [15:38] <xales> Aperture Science-esque "test chambers"/facility
#1042 [15:38] <Kealper> in other news: this week's Mythbusters was pretty awesome, and i now want to build a rocket-powered torpedo boat
#1043 [15:39] <Kealper> wut?
#1044 [15:39] <NotiCon> xales: sounds awesome
#1045 [15:39] <NotiCon> was just thinking about it
#1046 [15:39] <Kealper> where would the testing commence?
#1047 [15:39] <xales> What do you mean?
#1048 [15:40] <Kealper> idk, like...what medium would said project take place in? over irc, or would it have it's own program?
#1049 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> Portal 2-esque (broken-down and delapitated), or 1-esque (pristine and antiseptic)?
#1050 [15:40] <xales> Oh, by "megaproject" I meant Minecraft, Kealper
#1051 [15:40] <Kealper> OH
#1052 [15:40] <xales> DopeGhoti: Maybe a mix of both?
#1053 [15:40] <Kealper> that'd be epic
#1054 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> Hm.
#1055 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> You're talking ECC-scale building, you know.
#1056 [15:41] <xales> Indeed
#1057 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> so you'll probably have to scout out and find an area to get your science on, in.
#1058 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> but I think it's a pretty swank idea.
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#1060 [15:46] <xales> DopeGhoti: I'd need help with connecting it to the LEET (is that what it's called? I have forgotten ._.)
#1061 [15:46] <NotiCon> le eeee terminal?
#1062 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> Yes, the Light Elevated Express Transit
#1063 [15:47] <NotiCon> oh
#1064 [15:47] * Kealper would like to watch this thing get constructed
#1064 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> we have it down to a science now
#1065 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> with three or so people on it, an entire wing can go up rather quickly
#1066 [15:48] <xales> Kealper: You should partake of it's construction
#1067 [15:48] <xales> DopeGhoti: I have to admit I've never actually built anything with other people before
#1068 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> it's very fun, and very satisfying
#1069 [15:48] <xales> well..I dug out a room with Kealper, but that's about it
#1070 [15:48] <Kealper> lol
#1071 [15:49] <Kealper> i'd help but i'd have no idea what to do
#1072 [15:50] <xales> I don't either
#1073 [15:50] <xales> <.<
#1074 [15:50] <Kealper> lol
#1075 [15:50] <xales> Kealper: are you on the whitelist for DG's server?
#1076 [15:50] <Kealper> idk, i might be....
#1077 [15:50] <Kealper> lemme migrate out to my main comp....brb
#1078 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> another project we have going is this: http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/?x=-354&y=64&z=-529&zoom=max (We are recreating Coneria from Final Fantasy; http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080303154136/finalfantasy/images/b/b8/Coneria.gif )
#1079 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> And not, like others do, as pixel art :p
#1080 [15:52] <Kealper> XD
#1081 [15:53] <Kealper> can i just punch minecraft.hbfgaming.com in to get on?
#1082 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> that's the map host, not the server
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#1084 [15:53] <Kealper> ah
#1085 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> (thanks, AllGamer!)
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#1087 [15:54] <lucask> hello
#1088 [15:55] <Kealper> yeah, looks like i haven't been on your server (or was on it before you had a whitelist enabled)
#1089 [15:55] <Kealper> lucask: ello
#1090 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I'll give you the dime tour tonight, then (:
#1091 [15:55] <lucask> I am in a slump. I can't play Minecraft.
#1092 [15:55] <Kealper> \o/
#1093 [15:56] <Kealper> lucask: due to...technical reasons or what?
#1094 [15:56] <lucask> No, my mom says she doesn't want me playing it.
#1095 [15:56] <Kealper> o.o
#1096 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#1097 [15:56] <NotiCon> thats some kind of technical reason
#1098 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> did you tell her about all the benefits of learning boolean logic programming?
#1099 [15:57] * Kealper is just going to keep spamming the connect button until it stops kicking him for not being whitelisted
#1099 [15:57] <lucask> She says it's a devil game and if I play it, I will burn in hell.
#1100 [15:58] <lucask> Is that true?
#1101 [15:58] <lucask> :C
#1102 [15:58] <Kealper> then convert to the Church of FSM and tell her there is no Hell, so you can't possibly go there
#1103 [15:58] <lucask> She would punch me in the leg if I ever said there was no hell.
#1104 [15:59] <Kealper> punch her back then
#1105 [15:59] <Keltinray> how the... a devil game?
#1106 [15:59] <Kealper> it's child abuse if she hits you
#1107 [15:59] <Keltinray> How the heck is Minecraft a devil game?
#1108 [15:59] <NotiCon> cause it consumes your time?
#1109 [15:59] <lucask> Good idea, I will. But another reason I can't play it is it freezes every 5 minutes.
#1110 [15:59] <Kealper> can't argue with that lol
#1111 [16:00] <Kealper> oh, so there was an actual technical problem amidst the slurry of crap? lol
#1112 [16:00] <lucask> Yes :3
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#1114 [16:00] <gretchen> Minecraft is actually a very christian game
#1115 [16:00] <gretchen> check this out
#1116 [16:00] <gretchen> http://objectiveministries.org/zounds/review-minecraft.html
#1117 [16:00] <Kealper> well, then you came to the right place lol
#1118 [16:00] <gretchen> also dont mind my default name
#1119 [16:01] <lucask> Stuff I've Tried: Updating Java, Updating Graphics Drivers Reinstalling MC twice.
#1120 [16:01] <Kealper> has it ever worked before?
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#1123 [16:01] <lucask> Yeah, it worked before I reinstalled vista
#1124 [16:02] <lucask> same specs and all
#1125 [16:02] <Kealper> hmm....when it freezes, what exactly happens? does it just stop updating the game screen? does it go black? does it completely crash?
#1126 [16:02] <lucask> Game just stays on the screen, then the window goes unresponsive.
#1127 [16:03] <lucask> And by the screen, I mean whatever frame i was on
#1128 [16:03] <lucask> i can load SP and MP fine
#1129 [16:03] <Kealper> that's.....odd....
#1130 [16:03] <lucask> I know :/
#1131 [16:03] <Kealper> ?? win/profile
#1132 [16:03] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1133 [16:03] <lucask> any ideas
#1134 [16:03] <Kealper> try that
#1135 [16:03] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#1137 [16:03] <lucask> Woah you said that at the same time
#1138 [16:04] <Kealper> i told the bot to say that before typing "try that" lol
#1139 [16:04] <lucask> hmmmm
#1140 [16:04] <lucask> i dont want to have to log off my main windows account when i play MC :P
#1141 [16:04] <lucask> can someone send me their java folder?
#1142 [16:05] <lucask> like a rar?
#1143 [16:05] <Kealper> if you have uninstalled it though Programs and Features and then reinstalled it from http://java.com then it should be totally reinstalled
#1144 [16:05] <Kealper> and i think the java folder is like...huge...
#1145 [16:06] <lucask> i will try that
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#1147 [16:08] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: are you able to whitelist people from your current location, or am i stuck waiting until a better time? lol
#1148 [16:08] <lucask> brb, ill be back in a bit
#1149 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> I've white-listed you. Please don't lead a herd of creepers into our creations (:
#1150 [16:09] <Kealper> AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!11....those stupid "paste this code into your address bar to share this" things are so friggin annoying on facebook
#1151 [16:10] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: could you send me your code for that dynmap like thing once again?
#1152 [16:10] <Kealper> they get all your online friends and post a spam message on their walls without letting you know ._.
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#1154 [16:11] <bobd0le> hmm
#1155 [16:12] <bobd0le> i had a water elevator thing for myself in one of my mine shafts
#1156 [16:12] <bobd0le> like a water ladder, instead of a normal ladder
#1157 [16:12] <bobd0le> but after the last update it seems to of slowed down horribly
#1158 [16:12] <bobd0le> any alternatives that still work after the update?
#1159 [16:12] <bobd0le> bar a normal ladder / minecart
#1160 [16:12] <Kealper> water elevators worked by exploiting a bug with water physics, which has been semi-fixed since 1.5
#1161 [16:12] <MrCrashdummy> a lava ladder
#1162 [16:13] <bobd0le> so there are no cool alternatives to ladders? :(
#1163 [16:13] <Kealper> lava ladders work great as a respawn tool
#1164 [16:13] <MrCrashdummy> stairs.
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#1166 [16:13] <MrCrashdummy> Kealper: ikr
#1167 [16:13] <NotiCon> lava ladders ? o:
#1168 [16:13] <Mloeven> i need some help with a performance issue
#1169 [16:13] <bobd0le> blech
#1170 [16:13] <MrCrashdummy> Mloeven: what?
#1171 [16:13] <Mloeven> i need to disable weather on my client
#1172 [16:13] <Mloeven> for smp
#1173 [16:14] <Mloeven> i cant controll the server so i need to turn it off client side
#1174 [16:14] <MrCrashdummy> Mloeven: ... some one else help him :P
#1175 [16:14] <Mloeven> i dont care about lighting i just cant see rain
#1176 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> water ladders still work, but you have to push against the bugged corner, not the whole face, now.
#1177 [16:14] <Mloeven> dont want to see rain or snow cause it rapes my fps
#1178 [16:14] <Kealper> there is probably a simple Bukkit plugin to do that
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#1180 [16:15] <Mloeven> water ladders werent a bug they were clever i am amaized notch would intentionally break it
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#1182 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> um
#1183 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> yes, they are a bug
#1184 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> a useful bug, but still a bug
#1185 [16:15] <Mloeven> it is a pure server you cant use a modded client
#1186 [16:15] <Mloeven> i need to turn it off by either changing a setting or deleting the effect
#1187 [16:16] <MrCrashdummy> you should probably go to #risucraft for that?
#1188 [16:16] <MrCrashdummy> because I think it involves modding
#1189 [16:16] <Kealper> Mloeven: have you checked the forums? there might even be a simple mod to disable it client-side
#1190 [16:17] <MrCrashdummy> he's asking there already
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#1192 [16:17] <Kealper> lol... Loafyland Elevated Express Transit
#1193 [16:17] <MrCrashdummy> LEET :D
#1194 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> that's our light-rail
#1195 [16:18] <Kealper> lol
#1196 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> in the ECC, we have DROPs (Descending Rapid Optimised Positioners) for getting downstairs rapidly
#1197 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> )
#1198 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> s/)//
#1199 [16:18] <Kealper> xD
#1200 [16:19] <MrCrashdummy> xD
#1201 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> xales: this is what I was going to show you last night before realizing that on Tiny, it'd be pointless:
#1202 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/?x=-865&y=64&z=901&zoom=-1
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#1204 [16:22] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: could you send me the code for that map one more time?
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#1206 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> MrCrashdummy: https://github.com/brownan/Minecraft-Overviewer
#1207 [16:22] <MrCrashdummy> Thanks ;D
#1208 [16:24] <Kealper> ECC is so far away >.>
#1209 [16:24] <NotiCon> i still lack a minecraft server to play on :(
#1210 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: only 1.1 Km
#1211 [16:25] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: ._.
#1212 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> it made the 'On a Rail' cheevo easy to get (:
#1213 [16:25] <Kealper> NotiCon: i have a server.....but it's pretty much vanilla and small
#1214 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> so do I, but it's vanilla and big
#1215 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> as Kealper is discovering
#1216 [16:27] <Kealper> psh, i've got a single stretch 2-lane track that is like 3km long on my server, but this like...5 billion mile walk on your server is brutal lol
#1217 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> why are you walking?
#1218 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> didn't you see the cart rental kiosk?
#1219 [16:27] <Kealper> idk, i found some tunnel that said go that way for ECC so i followed it
#1220 [16:28] <Kealper> it's near bedrock
#1221 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> oh
#1222 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> heh
#1223 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> that's what Xales did (:
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#1225 [16:28] <xales> ._.
#1226 [16:28] <Kealper> i finnally found the end i think!
#1227 [16:28] <Kealper> no..i didn't....
#1228 [16:29] <Kealper> what sort of sick, twisted person made this tunnel?
#1229 [16:29] <MrCrashdummy> :P
#1230 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> well, someone wanted a safe way to get to ECC from Spawn at night, before we had the LEET
#1231 [16:29] <Kealper> phyphor.....
#1232 [16:30] <MrCrashdummy> you should call it 1337
#1233 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> why?
#1234 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> it's only 62 meters AGL
#1235 [16:31] <Kealper> it's actual abbriviated name is LEET lol
#1236 [16:31] <MrCrashdummy> 1337 as in LEET
#1237 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> Loafyland Elevated Express Transit
#1238 [16:31] <MrCrashdummy> you know the expression 1337?
#1239 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> Yes, and we refuse.
#1240 [16:32] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: l33t?
#1241 [16:35] <MrCrashdummy> DopeGhoti: Economic Community Centre?
#1242 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> Ennien
#1243 [16:36] <MrCrashdummy> What?
#1244 [16:37] <Wahrheit> Is anyone AWESOME at redstone? :)
#1245 [16:38] <aetherian> yes
#1246 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> I try
#1247 [16:38] <MrCrashdummy> yes
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#1249 [16:38] <Wahrheit> Would you like to come help me designing some traps?
#1250 [16:38] <Wahrheit> :)
#1251 [16:38] <aetherian> oh pfft, never said /I/ was AWESOME
#1252 [16:38] <MrCrashdummy> Sorry I can't.
#1253 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> like to? Sure. But I'm at work :/
#1254 [16:38] <MrCrashdummy> aetherian: ;)
#1255 [16:39] <Wahrheit> =[
#1256 [16:39] <Wahrheit> Highlight me with Wahrheit: when you get available :)
#1257 [16:39] <ALT3RNAT1V3> so whats the best dedicated server
#1258 [16:39] <ALT3RNAT1V3> to buy from?
#1259 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> say minecraft_server.jar
#1260 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> ah
#1261 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> server _host_
#1262 [16:39] <MrCrashdummy> ALT3RNAT1V3: multiplayservers.com
#1263 [16:39] <Wahrheit> ALT3RNAT1V3: Multiplay
#1264 [16:39] <ALT3RNAT1V3> right
#1265 [16:39] <ALT3RNAT1V3> i'll check it out
#1266 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> ALT3RNAT1V3: https://allgamer.net/clients/aff.php?aff=061
#1267 [16:40] <Wahrheit> http://goo.gl/02Qmy
#1268 [16:40] <Wahrheit> ALT3RNAT1V3: http://goo.gl/02Qmy
#1269 [16:40] <Kealper> Multiplay is fightin' wurds 'round these parts
#1270 [16:40] <Wahrheit> Why so?
#1271 [16:40] <Wahrheit> They gave me 3 months free because they love me so much. :)
#1272 [16:40] <Kealper> because #minecrafthelp <3 AllGamer
#1273 [16:40] <ALT3RNAT1V3> lol
#1274 [16:40] <Steve[cug]> lol
#1275 [16:41] <MrCrashdummy> I have a Multiplay server, no problems at all
#1276 [16:41] <Steve[cug]> I'll stick with my own colo thank you
#1277 [16:41] <Steve[cug]> :-p
#1278 [16:41] <Wahrheit> I lurrrrve Multiplay
#1279 [16:41] <ALT3RNAT1V3> i have servercraft
#1280 [16:41] <ALT3RNAT1V3> its not that good >_>
#1281 [16:41] <Wahrheit> 100% uptime, literally
#1282 [16:41] <MrCrashdummy> Wahrheit: hes right
#1283 [16:41] <Wahrheit> Who's right about what?
#1284 [16:41] <MrCrashdummy> youare
#1285 [16:42] <MrCrashdummy> I have to go
#1286 [16:42] <MrCrashdummy> bye
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#1289 [16:49] * VoxelHead is back
#1289 [16:50] <NotiCon> wb VoxelHead
#1290 [16:50] <VoxelHead> re
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#1292 [16:50] <CorneyD> Hey guys.
#1293 [16:51] <CorneyD> Anyone here with brohoster and able to get craftbook working with the bridges and stuff?
#1294 [16:51] <VoxelHead> No
#1295 [16:51] <CorneyD> could really use some help with my server.
#1296 [16:51] * Kealper isn't really fond of BH
#1296 [16:51] <Kealper> also...do they do Bukkit servers?
#1297 [16:52] <CorneyD> i think they're ok. given everything i need really, but not sure how to get craftbook working with bukkit
#1298 [16:52] <AG_Scott> pretty sure they do.
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#1300 [16:52] <AG_Scott> You should probably ask for help in #bukkit
#1301 [16:52] <CorneyD> anyone got craftbook working with a bukkit server?
#1302 [16:52] <AG_Scott> This channel doesn't support mods/plugins/etc.
#1303 [16:52] <Nillocisi> hey
#1304 [16:52] <CorneyD> cheers
#1305 [16:52] <Nillocisi> I need some help
#1306 [16:52] <VoxelHead> Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers.
#1307 [16:52] <Nillocisi> obviously
#1308 [16:53] <AG_Scott> Ask then :D
#1309 [16:53] <Nillocisi> ok, so first off
#1310 [16:53] <Nillocisi> I couldn't even download the minecraft client for windows
#1311 [16:53] <Nillocisi> so i just got the mac one and extracted it and found the launcher
#1312 [16:53] <Kealper> CorneyD: in all honesty though...ask in #bukkit
#1313 [16:53] <Nillocisi> and when I pulled up the launcher, it wont let me sign in
#1314 [16:54] <Kealper> Nillocisi: what is it telling you?
#1315 [16:54] <Nillocisi> It did this the first time I played yesterday too. I bought it yesterday, but I was playing on a different computer
#1316 [16:54] <Nillocisi> It just says "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#1317 [16:54] <Nillocisi> and for the windows client
#1318 [16:55] <Nillocisi> it wants to find a program to download it :|
#1319 [16:55] <Kealper> O.o
#1320 [16:55] <Kealper> did it save correctly as a .exe file?
#1321 [16:55] <NotiCon> did you by any chance pirate it before buying it?
#1322 [16:55] <AG_Scott> I just thought of something. You guys are going to have fun when OS X Lion users come in here complaining it won't work. :D
#1323 [16:55] <AG_Scott> Java isn't installed by default anymore.
#1324 [16:56] <NotiCon> AG_Scott: sounds awesome
#1325 [16:56] <Nillocisi> My friend did in fact send me a pirated version over skype so I could try it. :/
#1326 [16:56] <Nillocisi> and then i fell in love hehe
#1327 [16:56] <NotiCon> well there is your problem then
#1328 [16:56] <Kealper> Nillocisi: do you remember if that pirated version had you edit a windows file called "hosts"?
#1329 [16:57] <Nillocisi> nope, he just sent me a .zip file that i extracted
#1330 [16:57] <Kealper> hmm..
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#1332 [16:57] <Kealper> can you get on minecraft.net just fine in your browser?
#1333 [16:57] <Nillocisi> you know it
#1334 [16:59] <AG_Scott> You can't download this? http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1335 [16:59] <Kealper> hmm...
#1336 [17:00] <Nillocisi> it worked downloading that time
#1337 [17:00] <Nillocisi> weird
#1338 [17:00] <AG_Scott> okay
#1339 [17:00] <Nillocisi> it told me to find a program for a MIME file
#1340 [17:00] <AG_Scott> ?? win/reinst
#1341 [17:00] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1342 [17:00] <Nillocisi> never heard of that o.o
#1343 [17:00] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1344 [17:01] <AG_Scott> go there and see if that directory exists
#1345 [17:01] <AG_Scott> .minecraft, that is.
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#1347 [17:01] <Kealper> Nillocisi: some times browsers don't always put the .exe on the end of the file
#1348 [17:01] <NotiCon> silly browsers
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#1350 [17:01] <Nillocisi> I still, however, cannot log in
#1351 [17:02] <Nillocisi> But, the news feed works still.
#1352 [17:02] <NotiCon> what does it say?
#1353 [17:02] <Nillocisi> Yesterday on my other computer, the news feed never came up
#1354 [17:02] <Kealper> meh, might as well do the hosts test just to say i tried
#1355 [17:02] <Nillocisi> can't connect to minecraft.net
#1356 [17:02] <Nillocisi> how do you do the hosts test?
#1357 [17:03] <Kealper> Nillocisi: this is probably not going to fix anything, but just to say i asked you about it....go to C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc
#1358 [17:03] <Wahrheit> !ping mc.summaxr.com:27265
#1359 [17:03] <Wahrheit> no more ping bot?
#1360 [17:03] <Kealper> Wahrheit: !check
#1361 [17:03] <Wahrheit> Doesn't give ping
#1362 [17:03] <Wahrheit> :p
#1363 [17:03] <Kealper> the ping command could never give pings of other things, it uses an irc ping
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#1365 [17:03] <Wahrheit> oh.
#1366 [17:05] <Nillocisi> alright
#1367 [17:05] <Nillocisi> im at my hosts thing
#1368 [17:05] <Wahrheit> What letter on f3 is ping?
#1369 [17:05] <Kealper> you have hosts opened in a text editor?
#1370 [17:05] <Kealper> Wahrheit: none
#1371 [17:05] <Kealper> Wahrheit: although that would be a very cool thing to have
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#1373 [17:05] <Nillocisi> I have it opened in notepad
#1374 [17:06] <Nillocisi> is that good enough?
#1375 [17:06] <Kealper> yeah
#1376 [17:06] <Kealper> see anything with minecraft in there?
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#1379 [17:06] <Nillocisi> some acme thing
#1380 [17:06] <Nillocisi> no minecraft
#1381 [17:06] <Kealper> ok then....as i figured, wasn't that....hmmm
#1382 [17:08] <Morrolan> Uhm, Kealper, what exactly is this? ^^
#1383 [17:08] <Kealper> Morrolan: a notice that goes out to only people who have voice or op in this specific channel
#1384 [17:09] <Morrolan> Ah, a notice, right. .)
#1385 [17:09] <Morrolan> :)*
#1386 [17:09] <Morrolan> Don't think I've ever used it before. :/
#1387 [17:09] <Kealper> so anyone who has no mode on them thought you were crazy for a second, there lol
#1388 [17:09] <Morrolan> XD
#1389 [17:09] <Morrolan> ??< index
#1390 [17:09] <Morrolan> Ah, right, Vox sends this stuff as notices as well.
#1391 [17:10] <Kealper> /notice +#channelname is how you do it
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#1393 [17:10] <Morrolan> Good to know. :)
#1394 [17:10] <Kaito> can i find help with FiniteWater v2 in here, or do i go somewhere else?
#1395 [17:10] <Morrolan> Kaito: Might want to ask in #risucraft
#1396 [17:10] <Kaito> thank you
#1397 [17:10] <Kealper> and i think you can actually use that to get any channel op's attention by just doing /notice @#channelname too
#1398 [17:11] <Morrolan> Might be a quick way to get oneself banned on certain channels. ^^
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#1400 [17:11] <VoxelHead> Bye CorneyD.
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#1403 [17:11] <Kealper> it might not even work lol, type /notice @#minecrafthelp asdf
#1404 [17:11] <Nillocisi> where should I go for further help?
#1405 [17:11] <Nillocisi> does minecraft not have tech support? D<
#1406 [17:12] <Kealper> Nillocisi: this technically is tech support :/
#1407 [17:12] <VoxelHead> The best kind of is.
#1408 [17:12] <Nillocisi> :\
#1409 [17:12] <Morrolan> Well, we're the community run support, for the official one go to "support@mojang.com"
#1410 [17:12] <Kealper> as for your issue though...lemme do some braining...
#1411 [17:12] <Morrolan> But as Vox said, we're better.
#1412 [17:12] <Morrolan> What is your issue though?
#1413 [17:12] <Kealper> support@mojang.com is really only account support, Mojang doesn't have official tech support atm :/
#1414 [17:12] <Morrolan> Actually nevermind, I'll just scroll up.
#1415 [17:13] <Morrolan> Kealper: Hmm, yea, true.
#1416 [17:13] <Kealper> trouble getting the launcher to connect, pirated the game before deciding to buy it, hosts file is clean, he can get on minecraft.net though a browser
#1417 [17:13] <Morrolan> :/
#1418 [17:13] <Nillocisi> ;/
#1419 [17:14] <Kealper> Nillocisi: have you tried reinstalling Java?
#1420 [17:14] <Kealper> wait
#1421 [17:14] <Kealper> actually
#1422 [17:14] <Nillocisi> no
#1423 [17:14] <Morrolan> Does it work from a different PC on the same network?
#1424 [17:14] <Nillocisi> not the same network
#1425 [17:14] <Kealper> do you have any firewall software or antivirus software installed?
#1426 [17:14] <Nillocisi> yesterday I was playing over 3g
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#1428 [17:14] <Nillocisi> and it was behind a firewall yesterday
#1429 [17:14] <Nillocisi> yea probably
#1430 [17:14] <Kealper> it...doesn't work on any computer in your house that is on that network?
#1431 [17:14] <Nillocisi> i feel dumb for not checking
#1432 [17:14] <Nillocisi> um
#1433 [17:14] <Nillocisi> well
#1434 [17:15] <Nillocisi> this is the only computer that is operational atm :o
#1435 [17:15] <Kealper> oh :/
#1436 [17:15] <Kealper> well then, is there some firewall software that is blocking minecraft.exe from getting on the internet?
#1437 [17:16] <Nillocisi> im not sure, im trying to open up norton
#1438 [17:16] <Morrolan> Nillocisi: You could try this: Set up a server, download Kreate (http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=299999) and try to connect to it. This way you'll see wheter it's Java messing up or your network.
#1439 [17:16] <Morrolan> Oh, you are on Windows, right?
#1440 [17:16] <Nillocisi> yes
#1441 [17:17] <Morrolan> Ok. Only try what I suggested if we run out of ideas though, cause it's a bit of an overkill. ^^
#1442 [17:17] <Kealper> ??> Nillocisi win/profile
#1443 [17:17] <VoxelHead> Nillocisi: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1444 [17:17] <Morrolan> Or well, you wouldn't have to set up a server, but could connect to any.
#1445 [17:17] <VoxelHead> Nillocisi: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1446 [17:19] <Nillocisi> ok, I'll be right back
#1447 [17:19] <Nillocisi> logging over
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#1449 [17:20] <Arhol> Hi
#1450 [17:20] <Kealper> hi
#1451 [17:20] <Morrolan> Hey
#1452 [17:20] <NotiCon> ello
#1453 [17:21] <Arhol> How to change email? my email is hacked :(
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#1455 [17:21] <Morrolan> Arhol: You actually can't.
#1456 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> No can do.
#1457 [17:21] <Arhol> in minecraft...
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#1459 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> you can restore your access to your email provider, and use a proper password though
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#1461 [17:22] <Morrolan> Yeah, your best bet is to get back your mail account.
#1462 [17:22] <Arhol> don't work
#1463 [17:22] <everydaysongs> I have an issue with Minecraft closing shortly after I click 'log in' on the launcher. It won't open at all in browser. I'm running Windows 7, and Java generates an error message with the following: " # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (20.0-b11 mixed mode windows-amd64 compressed oops) # Problematic frame: # C [atio6axx.dll+0xd218]"
#1464 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> ok, which email provider?
#1465 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> everydaysongs: what sort of video card?
#1466 [17:22] <VoxelHead> a joint
#1467 [17:22] <Kealper> ^
#1468 [17:22] <everydaysongs> Sorry: "EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000006903d218, pid=6164, tid=5660"
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#1470 [17:23] <Arhol> this is polish email provider
#1471 [17:23] <Kealper> everydaysongs: reinstall your graphics drivers from http://ati.com
#1472 [17:23] <everydaysongs> Video Card: Radeon HD 5870
#1473 [17:23] <Morrolan> Arhol: You could send a mail to support@mojang.com , but I doubt that they'll be able to help you. :/
#1474 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> everydaysongs gpu/amd/solution
#1475 [17:23] <VoxelHead> everydaysongs: (gpu/amd/solution) We have a potential fix for Minecraft crashes with ATI/AMD CPUs and the closed-source driver. Try running Minecraft thusly:
#1476 [17:23] <VoxelHead> everydaysongs: (gpu/amd/solution) `env LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 java -jar /path/to/the/minecraft.jar`
#1477 [17:23] <Arhol> Ok thx
#1478 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> Arhol: _which_ email provider? is it your ISP?
#1479 [17:23] <Morrolan> Arhol, but really, it's much more likely that you'll get your mail account back.
#1480 [17:23] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: isn't that a linux fix? he's on windows 7
#1481 [17:23] <everydaysongs> VoxelHead: Assume I'm an idiot and I'm not sure how I do that?
#1482 [17:24] <VoxelHead> sunday
#1483 [17:24] <Morrolan> Vox is a bot, better ask DopeGhoti about that. ;)
#1484 [17:24] <VoxelHead> shh
#1485 [17:24] <VoxelHead> sekrit
#1486 [17:24] <Morrolan> Sorry Vox.
#1487 [17:24] * VoxelHead spanks morrolan
#1487 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> my bad, I'm nomming lunch and working and #minecrafthelping at the same time here
#1488 [17:25] <everydaysongs> I purposely have my ATI drivers rolled back because the last three do not run Rift.
#1489 [17:25] <Kealper> :/
#1490 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> everydaysongs: funny, our first advice is usually to update to the latest drivers..
#1491 [17:25] <Kealper> that actually was what i first said lol
#1492 [17:25] <everydaysongs> ATI is terrible. They patch certain things and then they totally screw over others.
#1493 [17:26] <Kealper> i've never had any issues with ati, but yet again, i have a pretty old card by today's standards
#1494 [17:26] <everydaysongs> My Rift sub runs out this weekend, I'll give it a shot.
#1495 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> My last ATI card was back when they still _were_ ATI; 'twas a 9700 Pro
#1496 [17:27] <Kealper> lol
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#1499 [17:27] <Captain-Lightning> ATI/AMD < nVidia
#1500 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> if you say so
#1501 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> oh, wait
#1502 [17:28] <everydaysongs> AMD's website isn't loading, so point for you.
#1503 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> that was a '<'
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#1505 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> I <3 AMD's CPUs, but their GPU drivers are an abomination, no matter how swanky the hardware :/
#1506 [17:28] <Arhol> need type password and login in message to support@mojang.com in order to change an e-mail?
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#1508 [17:29] <Kealper> i used to be an nvidia fanboy, but i went with ati on my last build, and fell in love with this card
#1509 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> Arhol: as a general rule, don't email your password to anyone
#1510 [17:29] <mib_si1p2x> Afternoon everyone.
#1511 [17:29] <Morrolan> Arhol: Username yes, password nope.
#1512 [17:29] <Arhol> ok thx
#1513 [17:29] <Morrolan> But give them the paypal transaction id and stuff.
#1514 [17:29] <Kealper> and yeah, i will give nvidia that, their drivers are orders of magnitude better
#1515 [17:29] <everydaysongs> I'll brb.
#1516 [17:29] <Captain-Lightning> I agree, DopeGhoti
#1517 [17:29] <Captain-Lightning> I usually go with AMD for CPU's over intel
#1518 [17:29] <Captain-Lightning> And nVidia over AMD for Graphics cards
#1519 [17:30] <mib_si1p2x> I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight into hosting my own server.
#1520 [17:30] <Captain-Lightning> I'm sort of brand loyal, to a point.
#1521 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> indeed
#1522 [17:30] <Captain-Lightning> mib_si1p2x, type /nick yournamehere
#1523 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> mib_si1p2x: you got questions, we've got answers
#1524 [17:30] <Kealper> if you are on window, i made a tool that you can use to quickly set up a server
#1525 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> and unlike Staples and Rat Shack, they're sometimes good answers.
#1526 [17:30] <iymcool> There we go.
#1527 [17:30] <iymcool> Yes, I run Windows 7.
#1528 [17:31] <Kealper> oh, did you want to give my tool a go, then? it does most of the work
#1529 [17:31] <Captain-Lightning> Ah, faithful Windows 7.
#1530 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: is your took a virtualbox disk image? (:
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#1532 [17:31] <Captain-Lightning> Vista, with all the bells and whistles, plus a few more, but without any of the problems.
#1533 [17:31] <iymcool> If that's all right, sure. :D I just discovered MineCraft last night and fell in love with it.
#1534 [17:31] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: xD
#1535 [17:31] <Nillocisi> well then
#1536 [17:31] <iymcool> Vista was a nightmare.
#1537 [17:31] <Nillocisi> still not working :|
#1538 [17:32] <vapor> you really can't say vista, with all the bells and whistles
#1539 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> Win7 is Vista with a partial suckectomy
#1540 [17:32] <vapor> win7 is really windows 2003 mainly
#1541 [17:32] <Captain-Lightning> Indeed.
#1542 [17:32] <Kealper> iymcool: gimme a sec to give you a link
#1543 [17:32] <iymcool> Thank you kindly.
#1544 [17:32] <m0nk> di they really spend a million dollars developing the login sound in vista?
#1545 [17:32] <vapor> vista was an abomination
#1546 [17:32] <Kealper> uhh....windows 7 is nothing like server 2003
#1547 [17:32] <vapor> m0nk, I wouldn't put anything past microsoft
#1548 [17:32] <Captain-Lightning> Windows Server 2008 R2 is the ultra optimized version of windows 7, I'm thinking about trying it out.
#1549 [17:32] <m0nk> meaning?
#1550 [17:32] <Kealper> server 03 is just a rebranded windows xp
#1551 [17:32] <DopeGhoti> "Hey, let's move all the control panel applets around to make people think it's worth getting recertified as MCSE2008 when their 2003 certs expire!"
#1552 [17:32] <vapor> Kealper, wrong win7 was built with 2k3 and 2k8
#1553 [17:32] <vapor> Kealper, no it isn't lol
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#1555 [17:33] <iymcool> I tried to go through infohub's guide to setting up one, however, I think I messed up my codes for Java more than anything.
#1556 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> Win2008 is "Vista Server"
#1557 [17:33] <Arhol> how much need wait to reply with mojang
#1558 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> Win2008R2 is/will be "7 ServeR"
#1559 [17:33] <Kealper> windows 7 is an upgraded windows vista
#1560 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> Windows 7 is Windows 6.1
#1561 [17:33] <Captain-Lightning> The server editions of the OS's are far superior to their normal counterparts at the cost of compatibility with certain programs and game.s
#1562 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> just ask it.
#1563 [17:33] <vapor> There is nothing from VISTA in windows 7
#1564 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> at a command prompt, type 'ver'. "Windows NT 6.1"
#1565 [17:33] <m0nk> user account controll *cough*
#1566 [17:33] <Captain-Lightning> Say what?
#1567 [17:34] <Kealper> iymcool: http://mc.kealper.com/Files/MSCSetup.exe
#1568 [17:34] * Captain-Lightning just tried that
#1568 [17:34] <Captain-Lightning> It actually works
#1569 [17:34] * DopeGhoti knows his sh[bleep]t.
#1569 [17:34] <Captain-Lightning> How the hell, DopeGhoti...?
#1570 [17:34] <iymcool> It says that it's not found on the server.
#1571 [17:34] <iymcool> "The requested URL was not found on this server. If you entered the URL manually please check your spelling and try again. "
#1572 [17:34] <Kealper> vapor: everything from vista is in windows 7, vista was rushed, 7 was the result of them going back and doing what they wanted to do in the first place with vista
#1573 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> Vista was Windows 6. 7 is a glorifies service-pack.
#1574 [17:34] <Captain-Lightning> Aye, there be a 404 in the path.
#1575 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> hence,a point release
#1576 [17:34] <Nillocisi> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
#1577 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> hance, Windows 6.1
#1578 [17:34] <Nillocisi> errr
#1579 [17:34] <Nillocisi> oops
#1580 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> then Marketing heard that people loathe Vista
#1581 [17:35] <Kealper> iymcool: oh, i guess i suck at typing that link lol
#1582 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> so they had to rebrand it as an whole new OS rather than a service pack
#1583 [17:35] <Kealper> iymcool: http://mc.kealper.com/Files/MCSSetup.exe
#1584 [17:35] <Kealper> reversed a S and a C ._.
#1585 [17:35] <Captain-Lightning> Ah!
#1586 [17:35] <Captain-Lightning> Good lad.
#1587 [17:35] <Captain-Lightning> Good to know, DopeGhoti
#1588 [17:35] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: well technically they just did the same thing they did with Windows 2000 and Windowd XP
#1589 [17:36] <VoxelHead> The best kind of they
#1590 [17:36] <Kealper> 2k was NT5.0 and XP was NT5.1
#1591 [17:36] <Captain-Lightning> Yes, VoxelHead. I agree.
#1592 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: if they hadn't, there'd have been Windows Millennium, Windows 2000, and Windows 2001
#1593 [17:36] <Captain-Lightning> I know some people that swear by Win2000
#1594 [17:36] <iymcool> The generating page is working! Thank you so very much!
#1595 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> like that wasn't confusing enough.
#1596 [17:36] <Kealper> 2k actually came out before ME lol
#1597 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> F[bleep]king Microsoft Marketing.
#1598 [17:36] <iymcool> What are these world seeds though?
#1599 [17:36] <xolotl> Well, there *is* more to an "OS" than just the kernel version, of course
#1600 [17:36] <Captain-Lightning> You can use anything.
#1601 [17:36] <Captain-Lightning> It is the string used as a random seed for your world.
#1602 [17:36] <Kealper> but ME still used the old msdos crap that 98 used, 2k used the new NT
#1603 [17:37] * Captain-Lightning uses linux
#1603 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> *snrk* "new NT"
#1604 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> NT preexisted Win95.
#1605 [17:37] <Captain-Lightning> He has a point.
#1606 [17:37] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: new in the sense of it not being dos ._.
#1607 [17:37] <Kealper> msdos*
#1608 [17:38] <xolotl> iymcool: Just ignore it and let Minecraft choose its own
#1609 [17:38] <Captain-Lightning> Were any of you around for the age of NeXTSTEP?
#1610 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> But yes, WinME was the last one that wherein Windows was an MS-DOS application
#1611 [17:38] <xolotl> iymcool: (or type in anything you want, of course)
#1612 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> Captain-Lightning: OSX ~= NeXTSTEP
#1613 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> we're _in_ the age of NeXTSTEP
#1614 [17:38] <Captain-Lightning> Get out of here
#1615 [17:38] <Kealper> lol
#1616 [17:38] <Kealper> him and his technicalities :P
#1617 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> why do you think all of the OSX object names start with NS_?
#1618 [17:39] <Captain-Lightning> I think you have just thoroughly deflated my interest in NeXTSTEP.
#1619 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#1620 [17:39] <Captain-Lightning> You took it into a back room, pummeled it, and bloodied its nose; and then did dirty things to it that it will never forget.
#1621 [17:39] <iymcool> It says done, however, I see no external URL to type in to go to the world. *is apparently an idiot*
#1622 [17:40] <Captain-Lightning> My interest will never be innocent again :(
#1623 [17:40] <Kealper> OSX isn't inherently bad...it (and the machines it's shipped with) are just not worth 2x the cost of a comparable PC
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#1625 [17:40] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Feed is empty!
#1626 [17:40] <Kealper> iymcool: wait a tick...url....
#1627 [17:40] <Captain-Lightning> Macs are ridiculously expensive
#1628 [17:40] <Captain-Lightning> And don't even deliver for the price
#1629 [17:40] <Kealper> you did want a minecraft beta server, right? lol
#1630 [17:40] <iymcool> I mean to actually participate in my server and start building.
#1631 [17:41] <Captain-Lightning> Click multiplayer
#1632 [17:41] <Captain-Lightning> Enter localhost as the server name
#1633 [17:41] <VoxelHead> basically, Click multiplayer... Clultiplayer
#1634 [17:41] <Captain-Lightning> *IP
#1635 [17:41] <Captain-Lightning> Clultiplayer, you say?
#1636 [17:41] <iymcool> Ah, no, my apologies. I am using the free service provided by the site. I guess it's the free multiplayer server I am trying to establish.
#1637 [17:41] <Kealper> oh poopy....i gotta stop assuming people mean beta
#1638 [17:42] <iymcool> XD
#1639 [17:42] <Captain-Lightning> Kealper, you host SMP servers for free?
#1640 [17:42] <Captain-Lightning> What is this madness?!
#1641 [17:42] <Kealper> ok then, ignore all that, you don't get the easy ride
#1642 [17:42] <Kealper> Captain-Lightning: lolwut
#1643 [17:42] <iymcool> I'm a poor nearly post-grad student. I can't afford Beta just yet.
#1644 [17:42] <Captain-Lightning> oh haha
#1645 [17:42] <Captain-Lightning> Whoops
#1646 [17:42] <iymcool> I was wondering why the server creator menu mentioned zombies and the like.
#1647 [17:42] <Captain-Lightning> I misinterpreted what he said
#1648 [17:42] <VoxelHead> guessss who made waffles!
#1649 [17:42] <Captain-Lightning> You did!
#1650 [17:42] <Captain-Lightning> High five, VoxelHead o/
#1651 [17:43] <Kealper> iymcool: http://www.minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip download that
#1652 [17:43] <iymcool> I've done that.
#1653 [17:43] <Kealper> did you run that bat file?
#1654 [17:43] <Kealper> if you are lucky, it will just work
#1655 [17:43] <iymcool> Yes, it says Java isn't recognized.
#1656 [17:43] <DoomZero> Hmmm... I read the rules and it said not to ask about mods... But I think my question is probably a little less confusing than what I shouldn't be asking about
#1657 [17:43] <iymcool> So I copied the files into my Java bin and then it said:
#1658 [17:43] <Kealper> you're one of the not lucky ones then
#1659 [17:44] <Kealper> so...don't do anything else and i'll tell you how to fix it
#1660 [17:44] <iymcool> Okey dokey.
#1661 [17:44] <DoomZero> Two mods were conflicting and I figured out it was the blockIDs that were the problem, but when I went to edit the props file, I wasn't able to
#1662 [17:44] <Kealper> first: type env into the start menu search thing, it should say edit enviroment variables for your accuont
#1663 [17:44] <Kealper> account*
#1664 [17:45] <Kealper> if yes, hit enter to open it
#1665 [17:45] <DoomZero> Apparantly .props are not able to be simply opened.
#1666 [17:45] <iymcool> All right.
#1667 [17:45] <DoomZero> Does anybody know how to edit .props files?
#1668 [17:45] <Kealper> DoomZero: uhh....with Notepad?
#1669 [17:45] <VoxelHead> Well, i had no idea.
#1670 [17:45] <DoomZero> Yeah doesn't let me.
#1671 [17:46] <Kealper> iymcool: got a window called Enviroment Variables open?
#1672 [17:46] <DoomZero> ... I wonder if simply renaming it to .txt would work.
#1673 [17:46] <iymcool> Yes
#1674 [17:46] <Kealper> DoomZero: yes
#1675 [17:46] <VoxelHead> It's me! I was the turkey all along!
#1676 [17:46] <DoomZero> Wow.
#1677 [17:46] <Kealper> iymcool: ok, see the top list box that has stuff like TMP and TEMP in it?
#1678 [17:46] <DoomZero> Fantastic.
#1679 [17:46] <iymcool> Yes
#1680 [17:47] <DoomZero> Thanks for your help guys
#1681 [17:47] <Kealper> is there one in there called PATH?
#1682 [17:47] <iymcool> Yes, in lowercase.
#1683 [17:47] <Kealper> in the top list or the bottom list?
#1684 [17:47] <VoxelHead> mmm DoomZero
#1685 [17:47] <iymcool> top
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#1687 [17:48] <Kealper> weird...double click it and copy the entire value into here please...that could be the problem
#1688 [17:48] <iymcool> %CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live
#1689 [17:48] <Kealper> oh, nevermind, just something Live failed at
#1690 [17:49] <Kealper> ok then, delete that...make a new one called PATH (caps matter)
#1691 [17:49] <Captain-Lightning> I have a suppressed desire to be a drift racer
#1692 [17:49] <iymcool> What should I put for the variable?
#1693 [17:49] <Kealper> as it's value, lemme type it
#1694 [17:50] <VoxelHead> bye Rehk
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#1696 [17:50] <Kealper> %CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#1697 [17:50] <iymcool> Got it.
#1698 [17:50] <Kealper> press ok, then try it
#1699 [17:51] <AG_Elias[CR]> Okay. It shames me to say this, but I need help.
#1700 [17:51] <Kealper> AG_Elias[CR]: no shame in that :P
#1701 [17:51] <Kealper> but...what with?
#1702 [17:52] <AG_Elias[CR]> Windows 7 64bit, Minecraft launcher works, downloader works, as soon as it gets to the actual game client menu, immediate crash, no error message.
#1703 [17:52] <iymcool> start server.bat loaded and said:
#1704 [17:52] <Kealper> AG_Elias[CR]: tried deleting the texturepacks folder from %appdata%\.minecraft ?
#1705 [17:53] <AG_Elias[CR]> I have deleted the .minecraft folder twice now.
#1706 [17:53] <iymcool> 16:52:24 Failed to save the level! java.io.FileNotFoundException: server_level.dat (Access is denied_
#1707 [17:53] <Kealper> oh...hmm
#1708 [17:53] <iymcool> Level saved! Load:0/16
#1709 [17:53] <iymcool> That' been popping up.:/
#1710 [17:53] <Kealper> iymcool: means it is started
#1711 [17:54] <Kealper> iymcool: so, that worked, your server is started....now to just take a trip to http://portforward.com and get that set up
#1712 [17:54] <AG_Elias[CR]> This was a sudden change. I use no client mods or texture packs. It just started crashing.
#1713 [17:54] <Kealper> AG_Elias[CR]: tried a new windows user profile?
#1714 [17:55] <AG_Elias[CR]> Like a new windows user?
#1715 [17:55] <Kealper> yeah
#1716 [17:55] <AG_Elias[CR]> Guess I can try that.
#1717 [17:56] <Kealper> iymcool: a note about that site....DO NOT DOWNLOAD OR BUY ANYTHING
#1718 [17:56] <Kealper> iymcool: it will try to advertise their program....ignore it, the skip ad link is in the top right of the page
#1719 [17:57] <Kealper> when you get it set up and need to test to make sure the port is open correctly, don't bother with their port checker, we have our own in this channel
#1720 [17:57] <AG_Elias[CR]> brb, changing users
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#1722 [18:00] <iymcool> Blast, I put in the url I thought would work and ended up with: You can't connect to the server via this URL anymore!
#1723 [18:03] <Kealper> lol
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#1725 [18:04] <Wahrheit> I got their program from demonoid
#1726 [18:04] <Wahrheit> it was shit
#1727 [18:04] <Kealper> what, PF
#1728 [18:04] <Kealper> PF's forwarding tool?
#1729 [18:04] <Wahrheit> yeah
#1730 [18:04] <Kealper> probably
#1731 [18:05] <Kealper> it would only work on specific routers, anyways
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#1735 [18:15] <VoxelHead> mmm diablodoct0r
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#1737 [18:18] <Arson> Anyone know where I should go for basic mod installation for an SMP server? I can get single player to work, but when trying out everything I've read for MP servers I'm not having any luck. :(
#1738 [18:18] <xales> If it's Bukkit, then #bukkir
#1739 [18:18] <xales> err
#1740 [18:19] <xales> #bukkit rather
#1741 [18:19] <Arson> Nope, just various mods that I like and wanted to try out with some friends on our server. There's surprisingly little ifnormation.
#1742 [18:24] <Arson> anyone able/willing to help? I have a few questions.
#1743 [18:25] <xales> You aren't trying to install singleplayer mods on a server, are you?
#1744 [18:25] <_303> what mods?
#1745 [18:26] <Arson> xales, if that's the case I've seen perhaps one or two mods that have made a designation as to whether or not they're singleplayer only.
#1746 [18:26] <Arson> So I've got no idea.
#1747 [18:26] <Arson> are most mods single player only?
#1748 [18:26] <xales> Yes
#1749 [18:26] <xales> Server mods usually explicitly what server they support
#1750 [18:26] <xales> (such as Bukkit)
#1751 [18:27] <Arson> Now you're not talking about textures, right?
#1752 [18:27] <xales> Textures are client side only
#1753 [18:27] <Arson> Right.
#1754 [18:28] <Arson> Ok, then let me just start from the beginning. I came across a mod to change grass. I liked the look, whatever. I wanted to use this for our multiplayer server. I didn't see anything in the thread one way or the other about support.
#1755 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Rendering graphics is usually client side only
#1756 [18:29] <Arson> It mentioned like many others that Modloader is needed, and I believe there's also a ModloaderMP that's supposed to be for multiplayer support?
#1757 [18:29] <Wahrheit> Yeah but it's lame
#1758 [18:29] <Wahrheit> and it means your clients need to have all stuff installed as well
#1759 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> You can't force somebody to download a texture pack, or upaded grass/lighting
#1760 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> (yet)
#1761 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> updated*
#1762 [18:29] <Arson> Ok, so what's an example of a mod I could use on a multiplayer server?
#1763 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Plugin list for bukkit: http://plugins.bukkit.org/#ti=&ta=all&au=
#1764 [18:30] <Arson> Isn't Bukkit a mod itself?
#1765 [18:30] <xales> Yes
#1766 [18:30] <Arson> I mean, I don't have to use that one, right?
#1767 [18:30] <xales> Bukkit is a mod that makes it easier for modders to write mods
#1768 [18:31] <xales> So if you want to use a mod that is for Bukkit, you have to use Bukkit
#1769 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit is a server mod, with an API that the community has set up to make it easy for other modders to write mods for it
#1770 [18:31] <Arson> Ok, I think I follow.
#1771 [18:31] <Wahrheit> (bukkit is awesome)
#1772 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> The plugins, are the additional features people have used bukkit to write
#1773 [18:31] <Arson> Are most modders writing with Bukkit in mind now or something?
#1774 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit is the most popular modded SMP server right now
#1775 [18:31] <xales> Most multiplayer mods are written for Bukkit these days
#1776 [18:32] <Arson> Ok, I wish that was more apparent in my reading. The dozens of stuff in the Released Mods forum on minecraftforums.net I've not seen the word Bukkit even once.
#1777 [18:33] <xales> Most of them are posted on the Bukkit forum
#1778 [18:33] <Arson> So, if I'm just interested in running a few SMP mods with some friends I should consider bukkit?
#1779 [18:33] <xales> not the Minecraft mod forum
#1780 [18:33] <xales> Yes
#1781 [18:34] <Arson> Now, i'm not interested in writing mods, so is Bukkit fairly easy to use?
#1782 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how much experience you have
#1783 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Got a good foundation in object-oriented coding, bukkit is pretty easy.
#1784 [18:35] <xales> If you want to USE Bukkit, yes, it's fairly easy
#1785 [18:35] <xales> if you want to write mods for it, then it's just the same as any other programming
#1786 [18:35] <Arson> I don't want to have to learn to code to mod my server.
#1787 [18:35] <Arson> and I don't really think I need to.
#1788 [18:35] <xales> You only need to if you want to write your own mods
#1789 [18:35] <Arson> Good, that's what I wanted to hear.
#1790 [18:35] <Arson> So, simply modding my server with some of those plugins is fairly easy then?
#1791 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> As easy as downloading bukkit, downloading the plugins you want, and just setting it up via config files
#1792 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> or text files
#1793 [18:36] <Arson> Sounds like stuff I've already done then.
#1794 [18:36] <Arson> Good
#1795 [18:36] <VoxelHead> Goooood.
#1796 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> vox, shut up
#1797 [18:36] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#1797 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> dang bot
#1798 [18:36] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#1799 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> The wiki for bukkit is here: http://wiki.bukkit.org/
#1800 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> They also have an IRC channel at #bukkit - and a dev channel for modders at #bukkitdev
#1801 [18:38] <Arson> Aww, you want me to leave already? =P
#1802 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Nah, just giving you more resources to look at
#1803 [18:38] <xales> None of us use Bukkit, as well, so we can't really help much with it
#1804 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Also that ^
#1805 [18:38] <Arson> Why's that?
#1806 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Delving into bukkit is a full time affair. You really gotta keep on top of it since it's not a finished product, neither is minecraft
#1807 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Each time minecraft updates, bukkit crashes
#1808 [18:39] <Arson> Yeah, modding communities and their squabbles
#1809 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Server owners who run bukkit, have to wait for the bukkit devs to update
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#1811 [18:40] <Riiyan> i need help
#1812 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> As volunteers here, it's expected of us to help, and many of us don't want to touch it because of all the knowledge we have to learn
#1813 [18:40] <xales> Riiyan: With?
#1814 [18:40] <Riiyan> I keep getting this message when trying to purchase the game
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#1816 [18:41] <Riiyan> Message from server: This card is ineligible for 3-D Secure payments.
#1817 [18:41] <Arson> Grey, xales made it sounds like everything is heading that way. Is that not the secure?
#1818 [18:41] <Arson> oops
#1819 [18:41] <Arson> I was reading above, heh
#1820 [18:41] <Riiyan> There is nothing wrong with my bank or card
#1821 [18:41] <Arson> Is that not the case*
#1822 [18:42] <Riiyan> it's so annoying
#1823 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Arson - Not necessarily. Bukkit is the favored server mod, and #bukkit is still the place to get bukkit help. There are still going to be people who prefer vanilla, or just need to get the basic server up and running
#1824 [18:42] <xales> Riiyan: Is it a gift card?
#1825 [18:42] <xales> (or otherwise a prepaid card)
#1826 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> That's what we're here for
#1827 [18:42] <Riiyan> no it is a company credit card for a buisness i own
#1828 [18:42] <Arson> Understood.
#1829 [18:42] <Arson> I've done the basic server and I'm reading to move further, so here I am.
#1830 [18:42] <Arson> Thanks for the information. I'll be sure to look into it.
#1831 [18:42] <Arson> Have a good evening.
#1832 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Take care.
#1833 [18:42] <xales> Riiyan: You should call the number on the back of the card, or try using it with Paypal
#1834 [18:43] <xales> The bank is denying the transaction, or the card does not support the type of verification needed at all
#1835 [18:43] <Riiyan> I called my bank and they told me that the transaction there end doesn't even exsist
#1836 [18:43] <Riiyan> There is no transaction denial or anything
#1837 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried paypal?
#1838 [18:43] <Riiyan> do you have to have a paypal account to pay with it?
#1839 [18:43] <Riiyan> not yet
#1840 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> You can use the credit card to pay via paypal, without needing to make an account
#1841 [18:44] <Riiyan> ok thanx i'll try that
#1842 [18:44] <Riiyan> didn't know that
#1843 [18:46] <Riiyan> That transaction went through
#1844 [18:46] <Riiyan> thank you guys for telling me about it
#1845 [18:46] * GreyVulpine nods
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#1846 [18:47] <Riiyan> Don't have a paypal account so that is why i didn't try it at first
#1847 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Out of curiousity, what was the exact error you got in the first place?
#1848 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> We've been seeing that quite frequently, and I've just been sending people to paypal.
#1849 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> I do think this is something mojang should be made aware of.
#1850 [18:48] <mcplayer> hey, i'm having trouble with my bed, im in the middle of my house, surrounded by light, my floor is brick, and i am still getting attack by mobs in the night
#1851 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> mcplayer - Known problem.
#1852 [18:48] <mcplayer> any way to avoid it?
#1853 [18:48] <xales> mcplayer: is the bed touching a wall?
#1854 [18:48] <mcplayer> no
#1855 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Not at this time.
#1856 [18:49] <mcplayer> ok thanks, anyways
#1857 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed
#1858 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> "Sometimes sleep will be interrupted by a mob, even in a seemingly safe area where the bed isn't touching any outside walls. "
#1859 [18:51] <mcplayer> but it is always happening, I've moved my bed around, and it still happens, and it works fine on my other worlds
#1860 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it was changed sometime in 1.5
#1861 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> I don't think deliberately.
#1862 [18:52] <mcplayer> ok, thanks for the help
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#1864 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> please ignore this spam, my apologies.
#1865 [18:58] <AG_Scott> lol....
#1866 [18:59] <Kealper> disregard that
#1867 [18:59] <bildramer> and then everything was good, forever
#1868 [19:00] <Wahrheit> What FRAPS settings do people record with, and what Adobe Premiere settings do they export with?
#1869 [19:00] <Wahrheit> :p
#1870 [19:00] <Wahrheit> Premiere Pro, rather
#1871 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> not all of us have $950 for Premiere
#1872 [19:01] <Wahrheit> I didn't either until my dad got me the CS5 master collection as a graduation gift :p
#1873 [19:04] <Wahrheit> But anyway
#1874 [19:04] <Wahrheit> suggestions?
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#1883 [19:40] <haux> For the past 3-4 game days, no livestock have spawned in my world... is this known to happen at all?
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#1885 [19:40] <lemon-rev> have you used a bed ?
#1886 [19:41] <haux> Yes
#1887 [19:42] <lemon-rev> then one day is basicly 4 days long , lol when you use a bed its not a standered night its basicly a carry on from the day before, so nighttime is irelivent < i suppose you could say thats why it takes a random time to swawn trees in mc if you use a bed everynight
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#1889 [19:42] <lemon-rev> which in case mc should only take 2 standered nights to grow trees
#1890 [19:44] <lemon-rev> and how big is your so called patch
#1891 [19:44] <lemon-rev> of grass or whatnot your expecting mobs ?
#1892 [19:45] <haux> Well, they aren't spawning... anywhere. Not just in some specific place
#1893 [19:45] <haux> I'm running around nearby land, and there's nothing
#1894 [19:45] <elliseek> !check s0urc3.dyndns-server.com
#1895 [19:45] <haux> There has always been livestock all over the place
#1896 [19:46] <lemon-rev> haux try moving away for about half a day like in one direction and come back , but like make sure yyou get out of your zone i dont know why mobs arnt appearing , is thre any trees around you ?
#1897 [19:47] <haux> Well, I started a forest fire by accident in the area where I first noticed it. But then I went back to the mountain near my house, and it's full of trees... nothing there either, or anywhere else.
#1898 [19:47] <haux> I'll try the whole getting out of my zone thing though
#1899 [19:47] <haux> I actually did that earlier
#1900 [19:47] <haux> and I noticed it when I got back
#1901 [19:48] <lemon-rev> haux was there mobs then ?
#1902 [19:48] <lemon-rev> before the fire
#1903 [19:48] <haux> before and after
#1904 [19:48] <haux> Just not... now
#1905 [19:48] <lemon-rev> hm
#1906 [19:48] <haux> I'm getting a bit concerned that something in my world might be glitched
#1907 [19:48] <lemon-rev> i say plant more trees get more saplings and go on a growing tree thingi :)
#1908 [19:49] <lemon-rev> well its starting to sound ilke it
#1909 [19:49] <haux> Yeah, that would not be very fun for me
#1910 [19:49] <lemon-rev> but trees in your world can sometimes bring em back, but if you dont want to , then start again :(
#1911 [19:49] <lemon-rev> hm
#1912 [19:49] <ellisgeek> i didn't catch the whole conversation but haux have u tried forcing a update to clear any mods?
#1913 [19:49] <haux> I've never used mods, but I did just do a force update a moment ago
#1914 [19:50] <ellisgeek> ok
#1915 [19:50] <haux> One thing I also haven't tried is switching my world over to single player
#1916 [19:50] <lemon-rev> ellisgeek hes had a forest fire and no mobs are spawning
#1917 [19:50] <ellisgeek> ok
#1918 [19:50] <haux> The fire had nothing to do with the spawn issue
#1919 [19:50] <haux> That happened yesterday
#1920 [19:50] <haux> Many game days ago
#1921 [19:50] <lemon-rev> hm
#1922 [19:50] <lemon-rev> k
#1923 [19:50] <ellisgeek> checked server.properties i assume
#1924 [19:51] <haux> Yeah it's set to true. I could also try turning it off and then back on again
#1925 [19:51] <haux> I suppose I'll try that as soon as I finish smelting this clay
#1926 [19:51] <haux> That and the single player thing
#1927 [19:52] <haux> I have like 70% of a large chest full of coal... lots of iron, diamond, gold. Starting over would ROYALLY suck
#1928 [19:52] <ellisgeek> also try deleting every thing but your operators whitelist and server world then redownload minecraft_server.jar/exe
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#1930 [19:56] <ellisgeek> haux?
#1931 [19:58] <haux> yes?
#1932 [19:59] <ellisgeek> u try removeing and redownloading minecraft_server.jar/exe and server.properties then reinstall minecraft_server.jar/exe
#1933 [20:00] <haux> I have not.
#1934 [20:00] <ellisgeek> try that
#1935 [20:00] <haux> If this doesn't do it, I'll try that too
#1936 [20:00] <ellisgeek> just remember your changes to server.properties
#1937 [20:00] <haux> I'll make a backup
#1938 [20:01] <haux> well
#1939 [20:01] <haux> Shoot
#1940 [20:01] <haux> Good news and bad news
#1941 [20:01] <haux> toggling the spawn animals on/off worked
#1942 [20:01] <haux> bad news... my ~20 wolves are gone now /:
#1943 [20:01] <aetherian> :D
#1944 [20:02] <haux> Fucking hell
#1945 [20:02] <aetherian> who needs them anyway
#1946 [20:02] <haux> It gets lonely here..
#1947 [20:02] <haux> Although I'm on multiplayer, nobody is playing with me at the moment
#1948 [20:03] <aetherian> so you go to NPCs for comfort?
#1949 [20:04] <haux> What NPCs?
#1950 [20:04] <haux> Are wolves considered npcs? Aren't they mobs?
#1951 [20:04] <ellisgeek> have u ever used McEdit?
#1952 [20:04] <aetherian> ...
#1953 [20:04] <ellisgeek> haux
#1954 [20:04] <haux> no
#1955 [20:04] <ellisgeek> ok
#1956 [20:05] <haux> I haven't... done anything of the sort. No mods, no texture packs, etc
#1957 [20:05] <aetherian> what was the problem, haux?
#1958 [20:05] <haux> All livestock disappeared
#1959 [20:06] <haux> and wouldn't spawn
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#1961 [20:06] <ellisgeek> if u want a FUCKLOAD of wolves there is a schematic (Saved piece of a world) that has a wolf spawning building where there are some wolf spawners and chests full of bones
#1962 [20:06] <ellisgeek> :D
#1963 [20:07] <aetherian> ...
#1964 [20:07] <aetherian> haux: are the conditions right for spawning?
#1965 [20:07] <phox> is there a way to check my server history?
#1966 [20:08] <haux> aetherian: basically, where there was livestock before, there no longer was. Nothing changed except the fact that they all disappeared and would not re-spawn.
#1967 [20:08] <aetherian> define: would not respawn
#1968 [20:09] <aetherian> how long did you wait, even
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#1970 [20:09] <haux> 4-5 game days. I'm not sure why that's in question though XD ...there has always been livestock ALL over the place. All over these hills. Every day, since I started playing, until now.
#1971 [20:10] <haux> I ran around... to other hills, same deal. Nothing there.
#1972 [20:11] <aetherian> well
#1973 [20:11] <aetherian> next time maybe you shouldn't kill any
#1974 [20:11] <haux> So, something happened. Toggling the animal spawn setting off/on fixed it, though, so it's all good now, even though my wolves are gone.
#1975 [20:11] <aetherian> you scare them away
#1976 [20:11] <haux> Yeah I do tend to kill a lot of cows /:
#1977 [20:12] <haux> Mostly 'cause they're too loud
#1978 [20:12] <haux> noisy fuckers
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#1980 [20:14] <haux> Hm, it's still kinda weird though. Although they've spawned, they're not making any noises
#1981 [20:14] <haux> Maybe I should just reinstall those server files..
#1982 [20:14] <phox> hello?
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#1986 [20:29] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Feed is empty!
#1987 [20:30] <Wahrheit> What FPS do most record Minecraft in?
#1988 [20:34] <Cinnamon> gOne2002 how often does McPlusPlus say stuff
#1989 [20:36] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Feed is empty!
#1990 [20:42] <phox> can i check my minecraft chat history?
#1991 [20:43] <xales> No
#1992 [20:44] <phox> can i check anything related to history?
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#1994 [20:48] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Feed is empty!
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#2004 [21:27] <Kealper> disregard this...i am testing a new alias.
#2005 [21:27] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
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#2007 [21:27] <Kealper> alias works...lol
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#2009 [21:32] <biggkahuna12> When i try to install essentials and permissions and i restart my server it does not show the stuff in game? can anyone help me please
#2010 [21:33] <biggkahuna12> anyone?
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#2013 [21:40] <lemon-rev> hm
#2014 [21:40] <lemon-rev> if your talking of mods we arnt here to help with that try #buket
#2015 [21:40] <lemon-rev> i think it is
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#2018 [21:44] <aarocka> Hey. I want to run a couple of minecraft servers. The thing is that I want to have one world on one subdomain and another on a different subdomain. Is there anyway of doing this?
#2019 [21:45] <lemon-rev> get two computers and set up as a server for eatch with the same world ?
#2020 [21:46] <xales> aarocka: You would need two IPs
#2021 [21:47] <aarocka> You cant assign different worlds to different domains?
#2022 [21:48] <aarocka> ok thanks
#2023 [21:49] <lemon-rev> hahah if you hoe grass on a step say on a roof you can see though the corner of the roof :P
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#2025 [21:50] <ellisgeek> ya install 2nics in your box and bind servers to different ones
#2026 [21:51] <ellisgeek> also buy another ip from your ISP
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#2030 [22:02] <xales> ellisgeek: You don't need two NICs to have two IPs
#2031 [22:02] <oldtopman> !seen athuw
#2032 [22:02] <GreyBot> I found no results for your !Seen query.
#2033 [22:02] <oldtopman> hmm
#2034 [22:02] <ellisgeek> how?
#2035 [22:03] <xales> ellisgeek: You can have more than one IP per interface, quite easily
#2036 [22:03] <ellisgeek> WUUUUUUT how i have never herd of this
#2037 [22:04] <xales> I don't know if Windows servers can do it, but I am 100% sure that the Linux kernel supports it
#2038 [22:05] <Orbitoid> xales: you can do it on server 2003 i have a server that is running with 5 ips on the one interface
#2039 [22:05] <ellisgeek> cool have any idea how (im on nix)
#2040 [22:05] <xales> Depends on distro
#2041 [22:05] <Orbitoid> I havent done it on nix before
#2042 [22:05] <xales> see: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Configure_Static_IPs
#2043 [22:06] <Orbitoid> or
#2044 [22:06] <Orbitoid> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/05/setting-up-multiple-ip-addresses-on.html
#2045 [22:06] <xales> or that
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#2051 [22:42] <phox> i need some help with a mod
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#2053 [22:43] <croyd> hi... I'm trying to import a save file for minecraft but can't find where to put it on my computer (windows vista). can anybody help?
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#2055 [22:47] <Donny> Could I get mo help here? Or is that prohibited?
#2056 [22:47] <Donny> mod*
#2057 [22:47] <lemon-rev> what exactly you mean like a save
#2058 [22:47] <lemon-rev> theres worlds not saves
#2059 [22:47] <Donny> No, I need to install mods.
#2060 [22:47] <croyd> yeah, a world
#2061 [22:48] <Donny> Oh. Sorry
#2062 [22:48] <lemon-rev> not help on mods but np
#2063 [22:49] <lemon-rev> well one way to do so is search for .minecraft < directory and then either make directroy called saves or just lunch minecraft and save a new world and search for that world :P
#2064 [22:49] <lemon-rev> then copy that world you want into that directory
#2065 [22:51] <croyd> yeah, that's what I was trying to do, but I'm having trouble finding the directory
#2066 [22:51] <croyd> when I search for minecraft all that comes up is minecraft.exe
#2067 [22:51] <lemon-rev> hm, the directory you need to be searching for is .minecraft but it should be in appdata
#2068 [22:54] <croyd> not seeing it :(
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#2070 [22:55] <lemon-rev> hm
#2071 [22:55] <lemon-rev> ok, lunch minecraft and make a new world and call it something you can search for
#2072 [22:57] <croyd> named it "FolderFinder" but nothing showed up when I searched for that
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#2075 [22:59] <phox> i got the planes mod installed on my server but its not working right i cant get the craft table for the planes
#2076 [23:01] <lemon-rev> hm
#2077 [23:01] <lemon-rev> croyd have you got show hidden files enabled ?
#2078 [23:01] <lemon-rev> phox we dont deal with mods in here sorry #buket i belive the channel is
#2079 [23:02] <croyd> yes
#2080 [23:02] <m0nk> #bukkit
#2081 [23:02] <lemon-rev> oh lol
#2082 [23:02] <lemon-rev> there u go phox
#2083 [23:02] <m0nk> bucket. fucket :P
#2084 [23:02] <lemon-rev> hahahha
#2085 [23:02] <m0nk> where can i get that app on the right side of the screen http://www.ustream.tv/channel/raihiru2?
#2086 [23:03] <m0nk> or
#2087 [23:03] <m0nk> bukkit fuckit
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#2089 [23:06] <croyd> well thanks for trying to help me
#2090 [23:06] <croyd> this is just going to remain a mystery o.o
#2091 [23:06] <lemon-rev> croyd < just stick around
#2092 [23:06] <lemon-rev> someone will help when they have win7 know how
#2093 [23:06] <lemon-rev> :)
#2094 [23:07] <croyd> I have vista!
#2095 [23:07] <lemon-rev> oh well same sorta windows os :)
#2096 [23:07] <croyd> I'm not that worried about it, I can only play a game for 15 minutes before my computer overheats
#2097 [23:08] <Kealper> !motd
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