#MinecraftHelp > 2011-05-06
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#2 [00:24] <Athy> How do you go about finding/generating an error log? My minecraft is crashing due to a bug in one of my mods but I can't seem to figure out how to get the error log afterwards and Google has been less than helpful
#3 [00:24] <Kealper> what OS do you run?
#4 [00:24] <Athy> sorry forgot about that, win 7 ultimate 64-bit
#5 [00:25] <xales> Athy: #risucraft can probably help you better
#6 [00:25] <Kealper> by using the .jar launcher instead of the .exe one, and using a batch file to launch it
#7 [00:25] <xales> (they have specific instructions on how to do that)
#8 [00:25] <Athy> Oh, ok thanks
#9 [00:25] <Kealper> but yeah, #risucraft will give you more detailed answers
#10 [00:25] <Athy> excellent,. thank you for the help!
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#16 [01:14] <Kealper> blasted!
#17 [01:14] <Kealper> i was just about to throw a new topic up but got side-tracked by a song >.>
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#19 [01:15] <Kealper> oh well, i'll accept that, it was so much of a ninja'd moment it wasn't even ninja'd....it was just hiveminded
#20 [01:15] * Cinnamon stares blankly
#20 [01:16] <Kealper> wait, dope sucked and didn't update it
#21 [01:16] <Kealper> wait...i might have been talking to myself
#22 [01:16] * Kealper slowly walks off into a different channel
#22 [01:16] <Kealper> disregard me
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#38 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Hey xales, you around?
#39 [03:17] <xales> Somewhat
#40 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Got a pretty neat little cave system while doing Dope's underground system
#41 [03:18] <xales> If you don't seal it off, I'll look for it tomorrow. It's too hard to play on this laptop :|
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#43 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> crap!
#44 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> I dug down, hit lava
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#46 [03:23] <ScribbleJR> quick question: do mosnters spawn on webs?
#47 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Webs aren't implemented yet..
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#50 [03:30] <Keltinray> GreyVulpine, you broke the first rule of MineClub D:
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#52 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I thought I was on the edge of the adjoining block
#53 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> instead of on top of that block
#54 [03:36] <ScribbleJR> webs r implemented
#55 [03:36] <ScribbleJR> tin 1.5
#56 [03:36] <ScribbleJR> in 1.5
#57 [03:36] <ScribbleJR> says so on minecraft wiki
#58 [03:36] <ScribbleJR> they just arent officially part of game yet
#59 [03:36] <ScribbleJR> they work tho
#60 [03:36] <ScribbleJR> u move slowly in them
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#62 [03:37] <ScribbleJR> making a spiderwb maze on my server
#63 [03:37] <syddraf> Can anyone give me a hand installing a minecraft server on Ubuntu? I've followed the instructions on the website, but I'm getting these errors: http://pastebin.com/cxXin0zM
#64 [03:37] <xales> syddraf: You are trying to run the client, not the server
#65 [03:37] <ScribbleJR> why dont u use bukkit?
#66 [03:37] <ScribbleJR> bukkit FTW
#67 [03:37] <syddraf> xales: X_X
#68 [03:37] <AG_Scott> syddraf, are you sure that's the server or the client?
#69 [03:37] <AG_Scott> I've /never/ seen that error before.
#70 [03:38] <xales> AG_Scott: It's the client
#71 [03:38] <AG_Scott> okay
#72 [03:38] <xales> hence
#73 [03:38] <xales> at net.minecraft.LauncherFrame.main(LauncherFrame.java:158)
#74 [03:38] <xales> at net.minecraft.MinecraftLauncher.main(MinecraftLauncher.java:13)
#75 [03:38] <AG_Scott> ye lol
#76 [03:38] <AG_Scott> syddraf, run this: wget http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar
#77 [03:38] <syddraf> It's probably the client. I just bought the game and I am apparently blind.
#78 [03:38] <AG_Scott> in the directory with your stuff
#79 [03:38] <AG_Scott> err
#80 [03:38] <AG_Scott> in a new directory for the server
#81 [03:38] <xales> !tutorial
#82 [03:39] <AG_Scott> and replace mc.jar with minecraft_server.jar in that java ... command
#83 [03:39] <syddraf> Yea. I'm just stupid. Thanks guys I appreciate it.
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#89 [04:00] <Ensuey> hallo!
#90 [04:00] <AG_Elias[CR]> Hello. How may we assist you today?
#91 [04:00] <Ensuey> have you ever experienced a lever glitch in MC
#92 [04:01] <Morrolan> The one with placement you mean?
#93 [04:01] <Ensuey> when you place it on a block ith snow
#94 [04:01] <Ensuey> with**
#95 [04:02] <Morrolan> I've heard of it, but never tried it myself.
#96 [04:02] <_303> yes
#97 [04:03] <Ensuey> http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/225232_217559934923543_100000086157372_865200_4931118_n.jpg
#98 [04:03] <Ensuey> here is one pic i took
#99 [04:04] <Morrolan> Yeah, just tried it, it looks strange.
#100 [04:04] <Morrolan> It seems the lever isn't placed on the correct location.
#101 [04:04] <Ensuey> i think it placed it on the snow not on the block below
#102 [04:04] <Morrolan> It's like on one side of the stoneblock, but turned.
#103 [04:05] <Morrolan> Oh, that might be as well.
#104 [04:12] <Morrolan> Ensuey: Seems levers are really bugged currently: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bugs#Levers
#105 [04:13] <Ensuey> yea
#106 [04:18] <Ensuey> i think you should report this
#107 [04:18] <Ensuey> <---- only playung with his friend's account
#108 [04:18] <Morrolan> I guess Mojang already knows about this, most likely it will be fixed in 1.6
#109 [04:18] <Ensuey> kk
#110 [04:18] <Ensuey> gtg
#111 [04:18] <Ensuey> thnx
#112 [04:18] <Morrolan> Cya
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#125 [05:19] <Robertx32> does someone knows how to make a code door?
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#128 [05:26] <peru> im sure theres youtube vid for that
#129 [05:26] <Robertx32> im searching but all are so complicated..
#130 [05:27] <peru> of course it going to be complicated!
#131 [05:27] <Robertx32> :( i hate redstone xD
#132 [05:28] <Robertx32> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbr4O-Bkzbs&feature=related is this good vid?
#133 [05:28] <Robertx32> it looks kinda big
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#138 [05:29] <Chetic> is it possible to get timestamps in the server log window?
#139 [05:29] <peru> yep thats right vid
#140 [05:30] <Robertx32> :O
#141 [05:30] <Robertx32> OMFG
#142 [05:30] <Robertx32> ok
#143 [05:30] <Robertx32> i will need some time to copy all this xD
#144 [05:30] <Schnilchmitte> I cannot join our SMP server anymore, even though it's online. "logging in..." for ~30s then i get "connection lost; end of stream"... any ideas?
#145 [05:31] <Robertx32> is ur server on ur comp?
#146 [05:31] <Schnilchmitte> nope :(
#147 [05:31] <Robertx32> idk then :s
#148 [05:31] <AG_Scott> Have you tried restarting the server?
#149 [05:32] <Schnilchmitte> not yet, admin can't be reached atm
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#151 [05:39] <AG_Scott> You should probably try that
#152 [05:42] <Vin> is others able to connect?
#153 [05:43] <Vin> i'ma just assume no one else is online this time of night to test
#154 [05:43] <AlphaDetisMegas> Timezones
#155 [05:43] <AlphaDetisMegas> please keep that in mind
#156 [05:43] <Vin> right
#157 [05:43] <Vin> i'm american*
#158 [05:43] <Vin> we dont normaly consider anyone elses timezones
#159 [05:43] <AlphaDetisMegas> >_<
#160 [05:43] * GreyVulpine pffts
#160 [05:43] <AlphaDetisMegas> that's so shallow
#161 [05:43] <Vin> lol
#162 [05:44] <AlphaDetisMegas> I ARE AMERICUH, I R SUP SO I NO NEED OTHA TIMEZONE
#163 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> Damn Americans..
#164 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#165 [05:44] <Vin> aint i steriotypical
#166 [05:44] <AlphaDetisMegas> that is what it screams to me
#167 [05:44] <AlphaDetisMegas> very much so, yes
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#169 [05:45] <Schnilchmitte> i think others can, because the daily auto map capture worked
#170 [05:47] <AG_Scott> GreyVulpine: http://minecraftirc.net/ any suggestions?
#171 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> One sec
#172 [05:50] <Vin> i got some
#173 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> AG_Scott - Primer to IRC? Services, how to register? Commands? cmodes available?
#174 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> Maybe some links to some clients
#175 [05:50] <AG_Scott> Information page has clients
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#177 [05:50] <AG_Scott> The other stuff is on Esper's site I think
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#179 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> forums link is wrong, should be .net instead of .com
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#181 [05:55] <Vin> n recommended irc clients is missing kvirc!
#182 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> Never heard of it
#183 [05:57] <Vin> thats one of the great things about life, is that it takes human interaction to inform you of new things, much like people must have sex in order to make new dna strains thus evolving our species
#184 [05:58] <thunwind> would someone mind trying to connect to my server and see if it's working? (firewall rules/etc. :)
#185 [05:58] <AG_Scott> kfixed
#186 [05:58] <AG_Scott> !check yourIP
#187 [05:58] <_303> !check zebracraft.co.nz
#188 [06:02] <thunwind> !check 222.154.224.27
#189 [06:06] <AlphaDetisMegas> !check minecraft.sweetcraft.me
#190 [06:06] <AlphaDetisMegas> >_< not from here, it doesn't
#191 [06:06] <thunwind> !check 222.154.224.27
#192 [06:07] <thunwind> !check 222.154.224.27
#193 [06:08] <Vin> lol
#194 [06:09] <Vin> perhaps this bot that checks the servers needs some extra code that attempts to log into the server being tested
#195 [06:09] <thunwind> I assume it only did a tcp connection check, :-/
#196 [06:09] * GreyVulpine nods
#196 [06:10] <thunwind> Is there any chance I could trouble someone for a few minutes of their time to actually login?
#197 [06:11] <lemon-rev> give me tick
#198 [06:11] <Vin> dont own mc :\
#199 [06:11] <AlphaDetisMegas> lol
#200 [06:11] <Vin> or i would
#201 [06:11] <lemon-rev> im getting failed
#202 [06:11] <lemon-rev> to connect
#203 [06:11] <AlphaDetisMegas> I'm connected
#204 [06:12] <Vin> srsly?
#205 [06:12] <thunwind> ah that's great, cheers mate
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#207 [06:26] <AlphaDetisMegas> cheerios
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#213 [07:07] <thunwind> lemon-rev, server is back up if you're up for more testing. :)
#214 [07:08] <lemon-rev> sure thing
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#218 [07:19] <Mirandda> Ein Teamler da ?
#219 [07:19] <Mirandda> keiner da ?-.-
#220 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Nein, leider nicht. Nicht viele sind hier.
#221 [07:22] <AlphaDetisMegas> ich verstehe kein deutsch :3
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#229 [07:57] <Morrolan> <Mirandda> Ein Teamler da ? <- "Teamler"?
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#248 [08:56] <bobd0le> anyway to make a booster that boosts a cart infinitely?
#249 [08:57] <bobd0le> that works with 1.5 :p
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#253 [09:01] <Sp3ct3r> hmm... could i ask something? If i buy minecraft from beta, what will i get at the release of minecraft?
#254 [09:01] <DreadLindwyrm> Minecraft
#255 [09:01] <oldtopmanserver> bobd0le: Look up Powered Rails on mcwiki
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#257 [09:01] <Sp3ct3r> no i mean will i get the full version of minecraft?
#258 [09:02] <oldtopmanserver> Sp3ct3r, What were you expecting?
#259 [09:02] <bobd0le> oldman, ive seen them, but they are very gold heavy, and gold is rather rare :/
#260 [09:02] <Sp3ct3r> i heard some rumors that i would need to pay 5 more euros
#261 [09:02] <oldtopmanserver> Sp3ct3r, That is only if you were buying it again when it goes to final
#262 [09:02] <Sp3ct3r> and that the ones that get beta will have some things cut off from those who bought alpha
#263 [09:03] <Sp3ct3r> ah ok.
#264 [09:03] <oldtopmanserver> bobd0le, Would it be that hard to look at the wiki rather than to come here whining about the rumors?
#265 [09:04] <bobd0le> oldman, surely you mean specter? :p
#266 [09:04] <bobd0le> and if thats at me, ive checked the wiki, but also the wiki's been wrong before
#267 [09:04] <oldtopmanserver> Sp3ct3r, The alpha users are saying that there was a clause saying "All future versions of minecraft will be free" That isn't what he meant to say. He meant to say that the final would be free but now Minecraft 2 will be free for the alphaers
#268 [09:05] <Sp3ct3r> ahh ok
#269 [09:05] <oldtopmanserver> bobd0le, I was post-mashing. Sorry.
#270 [09:05] <Sp3ct3r> wait... there's a Minecraft 2? o.o
#271 [09:05] <DreadLindwyrm> Eventually
#272 [09:05] <DreadLindwyrm> Possibly
#273 [09:05] <Sp3ct3r> ahh ok.
#274 [09:06] <bobd0le> s'okay oldtop, i forgive :p
#275 [09:06] <oldtopmanserver> Sp3ct3r, Have you ever played roller coaster tycoon?
#276 [09:06] <Sp3ct3r> yyes... why?
#277 [09:07] <oldtopmanserver> Pretend that minecraft is RCT1. What he meant to do was give out the fianl of RCT1 to the alphaers. What he actually did was Give them RCT2, RCT3, and all further versions free
#278 [09:07] <oldtopmanserver> Do you see?
#279 [09:08] <Sp3ct3r> ahh ok
#280 [09:08] <bobd0le> also, will dynamite takeout materials like iron etc?
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#282 [09:08] <oldtopmanserver> ??> bobd0le mcwiki
#283 [09:08] <Sp3ct3r> aww dang... then i will miss out a lot :(
#284 [09:08] <Sp3ct3r> thanks for the help :D
#285 [09:09] <oldtopmanserver> VoxelHead, y u no answer
#286 [09:09] <oldtopmanserver> Sp3ct3r, You don't miss anything!
#287 [09:09] <oldtopmanserver> pfft
#288 [09:09] <oldtopmanserver> bobd0le, Search this stuff on mcwiki
#289 [09:13] <Morrolan> bod0le: Minecart booster? Either use booster rails or the boosters we used before the last update.
#290 [09:13] * Morrolan gives Vox a cup of coffee
#290 [09:13] <Morrolan> Hmm, seems he isn't here.
#291 [09:13] <oldtopmanserver> I wonder why?
#292 [09:14] <oldtopmanserver> xales!
#293 [09:14] <oldtopmanserver> Where did vox go?
#294 [09:14] <Morrolan> Hmm, the complot against Vox must have been successful then.
#295 [09:14] <oldtopmanserver> I liked him :(
#296 [09:15] <Morrolan> Yeah, he was funny. I guess he just crashed though.
#297 [09:15] <Morrolan> Euh, he was USEFUL I mean.
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#302 [09:25] <mib_39u5sk> hi people.I havent played mcfor some time and wanted today but I cannot update.I tryed remowing folder,updated java and new client,checked ports but still it wont download,can anyone help?
#303 [09:26] <Vin> replant it before remowing it
#304 [09:26] <DreadLindwyrm> Can you play it on line ?
#305 [09:26] <Tanjoodo> Vin: XD
#306 [09:27] <mib_39u5sk> same thing is when I do online,if i like click on ''no'' for update say done loading but it stops on 95%
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#308 [09:28] <mib_39u5sk> oh you mean is it original game,yes it is i purchased it sme week when it gone to alpha
#309 [09:29] <Morrolan> Does it work from a different PC on the same network?
#310 [09:30] <mib_39u5sk> it worked before
#311 [09:30] <Morrolan> Yes, but does it work from a different PC?
#312 [09:31] <Vin> alwase test from a lan seconadry pc before making pressumptions online doesnt work
#313 [09:31] <Vin> my c cp
#314 [09:31] <Vin> 2cp* lol
#315 [09:31] <mib_39u5sk> I dont have 2 pcs
#316 [09:31] <Vin> perhaps a neighbor
#317 [09:32] <Vin> come on
#318 [09:32] <Morrolan> Well, neighbour won't be the same network anymore.
#319 [09:32] <mib_39u5sk> I live in croatia,not like I have neighbour to check it for me
#320 [09:32] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok mib. ./
#321 [09:32] <Vin> but mabey they can carry pc over
#322 [09:32] <Vin> anyway yeah i see the burden
#323 [09:32] <Morrolan> Huh, that's a lot of work though. :D
#324 [09:33] <Morrolan> So if you try to update it just gets stuck?
#325 [09:33] <mib_39u5sk> yes stucks at 5% and thats it
#326 [09:34] <Vin> oh shoot entirely dif problem than i thought
#327 [09:35] <mib_39u5sk> I can log in game and on web no problem with that
#328 [09:35] <mib_39u5sk> if I runupdate stucks on 5%,if i say no on update it stops on 90% and says done loading but it dont load
#329 [09:38] <DreadLindwyrm> If you force an update?
#330 [09:38] <mib_39u5sk> same thing
#331 [09:41] <DreadLindwyrm> Stupid thought here - are you running as administrator?
#332 [09:42] <bobd0le> how close do you have to be to a cactus to take damage? if i put them either side of my minecart track, will riders take damage?
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#334 [09:45] <mib_39u5sk> ok about runing as admin,I have question here,I tryed now but problem is i turned off password for admin and now it asks me even do i dont have it
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#341 [10:09] <bobd0le> anyway to bind mouse4 to walk?
#342 [10:10] <Morrolan> Makro.
#343 [10:10] <Morrolan> But not directly through Minecraft, nope.
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#345 [10:13] <bobd0le> but have it so mouse4 is walk only in minecraft
#346 [10:13] <bobd0le> and "w" would sitll work?
#347 [10:15] <[z]> Use AHK or something to make your mouse4 send W
#348 [10:15] <bobd0le> kk, ty
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#351 [10:22] <bobd0le> hmm
#352 [10:22] <bobd0le> i have AHK
#353 [10:23] <bobd0le> ive got the minecraft remap program
#354 [10:23] <bobd0le> and im having a look at the code
#355 [10:23] <bobd0le> ; Remaps button 4 to left-click
#356 [10:23] <bobd0le> XButton1::LButton
#357 [10:23] <bobd0le> how do i findout what "w" is represented by / what "mouse4" is represented by
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#359 [10:23] <bobd0le> so i can just do like, Mouse4::WKey
#360 [10:24] <[z]> W Is just w I think
#361 [10:24] <[z]> And erm, read the docs or whatever..
#362 [10:24] <[z]> I think there's a list of special keys/mousebuttons somewhere
#363 [10:25] <bobd0le> :D
#364 [10:25] <[z]> And erm, isn't the "button 4" it already uses the "mouse4" you want?
#365 [10:25] <bobd0le> it works
#366 [10:25] <bobd0le> so much love for that :D <3
#367 [10:27] <bobd0le> woohoo
#368 [10:27] <bobd0le> got mouse4 to go forwards
#369 [10:27] <bobd0le> mouse5 to go backwards :D
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#385 [11:20] <MrCrashdummy> Hiho
#386 [11:21] <bobd0le> how close do you have to be to a cactus to take damage? if i put them either side of my minecart track, will riders take damage?
#387 [11:22] <DreadLindwyrm> I think you have to touch them
#388 [11:24] <bobd0le> kk, ty
#389 [11:24] <bobd0le> same with lava?
#390 [11:24] * Kealper rawrs
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#391 [11:25] <Chip> Hey guys where can I find a new server with new players
#392 [11:25] <Kealper> ?? smp/servers
#393 [11:25] <Kealper> dang...
#394 [11:25] <Kealper> well.... http://mcserverlist.net
#395 [11:26] <NotiCon> someone killed vox ?!?
#396 [11:26] <NotiCon> aetherian: WAS IT YOU?!?
#397 [11:26] <Kealper> nah, i think that was just the wrong command
#398 [11:26] <Chip> thx
#399 [11:26] <Kealper> ??< index
#400 [11:26] <NotiCon> ?? ask
#401 [11:26] <Kealper> wait...it's not in here
#402 [11:26] <NotiCon> as said
#403 [11:26] <Kealper> nor is dope....
#404 [11:27] <Kealper> >.>
#405 [11:29] <Morrolan> Isn't it Xales' bot?
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#407 [11:29] <Kealper> no, that's M
#408 [11:29] <Morrolan> M?
#409 [11:29] <NotiCon> is m even a bot
#410 [11:30] <Kealper> yes
#411 [11:30] <Kealper> it's the same type of bot as vox
#412 [11:30] <Morrolan> Ah, ok.
#413 [11:30] <Kealper> and when they are both online, they are linked together so they act as one redundant bot
#414 [11:30] <NotiCon> just without the speaking?
#415 [11:30] <Kealper> vox won't be doing that anymore, either
#416 [11:31] <NotiCon> :(
#417 [11:31] <g> Oh, good
#418 [11:31] <g> less spam
#419 [11:31] <g> :P
#420 [11:31] <Kealper> bah...it's so crappy outside right now
#421 [11:32] <g> I'm emulating FFXII
#422 [11:32] <Kealper> cold and rainy :/
#423 [11:32] <g> it's running beautifully:P
#424 [11:32] <Kealper> lol
#425 [11:33] <g> Emulating PS2
#426 [11:33] <g> and playing with a PS3 controller
#427 [11:33] <g> so much win
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#433 [12:09] <Oerg866> Dang
#434 [12:10] <Oerg866> I have a problem
#435 [12:10] <Oerg866> because some people had lag issues
#436 [12:10] <Oerg866> i moved my SMP server from my main server which has too less RAM onto a dedicated box at my home
#437 [12:10] <Oerg866> The Minecraft server is started but i cannot connect to it, it says "Bad Login"
#438 [12:11] <Oerg866> a friend of mine can join though without problem
#439 [12:11] <Oerg866> ...nevermind, it works now all of a sudden
#440 [12:11] <NotiCon> it was cause you asked
#441 [12:12] <Oerg866> lol
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#447 [12:53] <Alle> Hi dose anybody know if there is an singel player command that gives you an "thors hammer"
#448 [12:53] <xolotl> Alle: I assume you mean something that would let you destroy any block with one hit? Without mods there is no such thing
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#452 [12:58] <Alle> xoloti: YEs i think is is a mod thing ... but im quite new playing this .. and iv herard och singel player commans and that you should be able to get an hammer called that .. i think it vas supposed to send ligthnings ...
#453 [12:59] <xolotl> Alle: Probably? I don't use mods, so I don't know. Try in #risucraft
#454 [13:00] <Alle> Okey .. thanks !
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#460 [13:19] <DannyNash> Hello?
#461 [13:20] <SPaRT> hi
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#469 [13:47] <bokaholic> Can't wear jack-o-lanters on your head anymore in 1.5
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#477 [14:08] <Vulcan> hello
#478 [14:08] <Vulcan> how much is MineCraft in pounds
#479 [14:08] <Vulcan> and if i loose the game how do i get it back
#480 [14:08] <bokaholic> I would suggest google. :o
#481 [14:08] <bokaholic> You would just redown load it.
#482 [14:09] <bokaholic> It's a simple .exe :)
#483 [14:09] <Vulcan> ok thanks
#484 [14:09] <bokaholic> Or you can play it straight from the site.
#485 [14:09] <Vulcan> olk
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#487 [14:13] <dopeghoti> Vulcan: regarding your other question, 15 euros = 13.2482 British pounds sterling
#488 [14:13] <Vulcan> ok thanks
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#490 [14:19] <frozen> do you think theres a help channel for minecart mania plugin?
#491 [14:19] <frozen> i know this isnt the right place to ask about plugins
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#493 [14:32] <Kealper> dopeghoti: could you locate a proper google search thing for vox, and have it so only +/@ can use the !google thing?
#494 [14:33] <Kealper> and when i say proper, i mean so we can do like !google 14.95 eur to gbp and get the google calculator result instead of like 5 search results
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#496 [14:34] <dopeghoti> Kealper: Yes.
#497 [14:34] <dopeghoti> I was actually thinking of specifically doing a currency calculator
#498 [14:35] <Kealper> even that would be nice, because there have been a few times when it would have been easier to just issue a command in here for things
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#500 [14:50] <Vhozard> hey guys
#501 [14:50] <Vhozard> so im running a server, but the terminal crashed
#502 [14:50] <Vhozard> the server is still running
#503 [14:50] <Vhozard> I can control it howver
#504 [14:50] <Vhozard> however*
#505 [14:51] <Vhozard> any help ?
#506 [14:51] <Kealper> uhh
#507 [14:51] <Vhozard> I cant*
#508 [14:51] <NotiCon> oh
#509 [14:51] <Kealper> crashed...
#510 [14:51] <NotiCon> open new terminal
#511 [14:51] <NotiCon> and kill it
#512 [14:51] <NotiCon> with fire
#513 [14:51] <Vhozard> 20:47:33 [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#514 [14:51] <Vhozard> 20:47:33 [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Address already in use
#515 [14:51] <Vhozard> can I make it bind to the already running process ?
#516 [14:51] <Kealper> can you connect to the server?
#517 [14:51] <Kealper> (the mc server)
#518 [14:52] <Vhozard> yes
#519 [14:52] <Kealper> because just killing it is not exactly reccomended
#520 [14:52] <xales> Were you using screen to run it?
#521 [14:52] <Vhozard> no :(
#522 [14:52] <dopeghoti> what I would do is killall -TERM java to (relatively sanely) stop the server, and then restart it.
#523 [14:52] <Vhozard> I wish I had
#524 [14:53] <Kealper> wait
#525 [14:53] <dopeghoti> or log into the server as an op
#526 [14:53] <relsqui> if you can connect, can't you kill it from the--yeah
#527 [14:53] <Kealper> Vhozard: before you go off killing stuff
#528 [14:53] <dopeghoti> and use the /stop command
#529 [14:53] <Kealper> yeah
#530 [14:53] <dopeghoti> (that would be better)
#531 [14:53] <Vhozard> yeah ok
#532 [14:53] <Kealper> what dopeghoti ninja'd me on
#533 [14:53] <dopeghoti> Kealper: By our powers combined!
#534 [14:53] <Vhozard> screen -dmS minecraft java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#535 [14:53] <Vhozard> this I should do ?
#536 [14:54] <dopeghoti> that, you should do
#537 [14:54] <Vhozard> when I restart it I mean
#538 [14:54] <dopeghoti> then you can use screen -x to get to your server
#539 [14:54] <Kealper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpXM9bj-WPU
#540 [14:54] <dopeghoti> ctrl-a, d to put it away again
#541 [14:54] <Vhozard> ol
#542 [14:54] <Vhozard> lol
#543 [14:54] <Kealper> aubot, give us the title to that link :P
#544 [14:54] <Vhozard> /stop doesnt work
#545 [14:54] <Kealper> i hate you AuBot
#546 [14:54] <dopeghoti> Kealper: please tell me that's not a youtube primer on screen.
#547 [14:54] <_303> ~title
#548 [14:54] <McPlusPlus> "YouTube - Captain Planet Intro" (http://is.gd/VosWEc)
#549 [14:54] <dopeghoti> Vhozard: are you an op on the server?
#550 [14:54] <dopeghoti> you kinda of have to be.
#551 [14:55] <Vhozard> im admin
#552 [14:55] <Vhozard> I can run any command
#553 [14:55] <Vhozard> but now it wont shutdown :(
#554 [14:55] <Vhozard> ill go kill it
#555 [14:55] <Kealper> i need to figure out why aubot fails with youtube links....
#556 [14:56] <xales> dopeghoti: Also, I believe SIGHUP will cause the server to shut down in a sane manner
#557 [14:56] <xales> (I'm not sure how it handles SIGTERM)
#558 [14:56] <Kealper> i've heard of some complaining of corrupt maps after getting DCed from an ssh session without having the server screen'd :/
#559 [14:57] <Kealper> reddit....y u in read-only mode right now
#560 [14:57] <dopeghoti> xales: I meant SIGINT anyhow :p
#561 [14:58] <dopeghoti> Kealper: anonymous problems witn EC2 again?
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#563 [14:58] <Kealper> probably
#564 [14:58] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/kQTFI.jpg
#565 [14:58] <Robertx32> is someone a good puzzle maker? i need help :p
#566 [14:59] <Vhozard> oh lol
#567 [14:59] <Vhozard> it doesnot handle sudo killall java
#568 [14:59] <Vhozard> I lost my world
#569 [14:59] <Kealper> .....i told you not to just kill it
#570 [15:00] <Vhozard> I tried /stop
#571 [15:00] <Vhozard> but it didnt work
#572 [15:01] <Vhozard> oh
#573 [15:01] <Vhozard> wait a minute
#574 [15:02] <Vhozard> its running in ~ now
#575 [15:02] <Vhozard> instead of ~/programs/minecraft_server
#576 [15:03] <Vhozard> cool
#577 [15:03] <Vhozard> I didnt lose anything :D
#578 [15:03] <Kealper> oh....you got lucky then lol...
#579 [15:04] <Kealper> unless....doing /stop first made it partially stop....so it got all the file handles closed before you killed it
#580 [15:04] <Robertx32> nobody?
#581 [15:04] <xales> Robertx32: what exactly is the question?
#582 [15:04] <Vhozard> Kealper, I have simplesave
#583 [15:04] <Robertx32> i need help with puzzle making
#584 [15:04] <Vhozard> so that one thing :P
#585 [15:04] <Kealper> i would but i've only got about an hour to mess around in The Powder Toy before i go off to no-internet-land
#586 [15:05] <dopeghoti> the.. poweder toy?
#587 [15:05] <Kealper> Vhozard: it can't save it in a way that would prevent what i was saying could happen
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#589 [15:05] <Kealper> dopeghoti: a particle/pressure simulator
#590 [15:06] <Kealper> written in... Python :o
#591 [15:06] <xales> Robertx32: You'd probably be better off asking in #smp, this channel is mostly for game questions/tech support
#592 [15:06] <xales> ??> Robertx32 irc/dontpm
#593 [15:06] <VoxelHead> Robertx32: (irc/dontpm) We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#594 [15:06] <Robertx32> oh
#595 [15:06] <Robertx32> sry im new here
#596 [15:06] <Vhozard> Kealper, yeah I know
#597 [15:06] <dopeghoti> Welcome. Collaborate and listen! (:
#598 [15:06] <Vhozard> but its something atleast
#599 [15:07] <Robertx32> usually i pm people not to disturbe the chan..
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#602 [15:20] <Vulcan> How do you sue multyplayer
#603 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> first, hire an attorney
#604 [15:21] <Kealper> and then work out at the gym
#605 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> then, mumblemumblemuttercough
#606 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> then, PROFIT!
#607 [15:22] <Kealper> guess he didn't like our antics
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#609 [15:26] <Morrolan> I wonder what he wanted to ask though. Is there any language where "play" is similar to "sue" ?
#610 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> could have, on reflection, been 'use'.
#611 [15:27] <Morrolan> Hmm, might be.
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#613 [15:30] <Jackson413> say i have this server host provider who allows users to have sql databases for their server, but does not provide phpmyadmin in order to access it. is there someway i can connect to a database remotely?
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#615 [15:33] <Thoatt> *sigh* sup peeps
#616 [15:33] * Kealper waves _o/
#616 [15:33] <Thoatt> You gonna be ready in about an hour? lol
#617 [15:33] <Kealper> are you going to pick me up for that thing?
#618 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> sup? I just had breakfast; it's not remotely time for supper.
#619 [15:33] <Thoatt> yep kealper
#620 [15:33] <Kealper> k
#621 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: yes, using the standard SQL client
#622 [15:34] <Thoatt> I was considering bringing the new tenna, but it won't fit in the blazer :/
#623 [15:34] <Kealper> stick it on the blazer lol
#624 [15:34] <Thoatt> lol... that'd look super dumb xD
#625 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> please tell me you're not planning on grafting a wing onto the trunk of your car
#626 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> those look so foolish
#627 [15:35] <Thoatt> So what's everyone been up to? I've been gone for a bit, busy with other things etc. :/
#628 [15:35] <Thoatt> no dope lol
#629 [15:36] <Thoatt> 1.) it's a 146/440mhz antenna for a handheld transeiver B.) It's not my car
#630 [15:36] <Thoatt> xD
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#632 [15:38] <Thoatt> I think I have to burn a new copy of 8... I tried installing the one I burned last night, but I think it has an error on it :/
#633 [15:38] <Thoatt> well... 2012, not 8
#634 [15:38] <genshou> what in the...
#635 [15:38] <Thoatt> windows... lol
#636 [15:38] <genshou> I was in the middle of branch mining
#637 [15:38] <genshou> turned around to cut at some redstone
#638 [15:39] <genshou> just in time to see a creeper pop out of one of my branches :O
#639 [15:39] <genshou> (lucky)
#640 [15:39] <genshou> My only question is how the creeper got in there? I have torches on the floor every 7 spaces
#641 [15:39] <genshou> :\
#642 [15:39] <Thoatt> hmmm... any dark spots at all?
#643 [15:39] <genshou> none
#644 [15:39] <Thoatt> interesting...
#645 [15:40] <genshou> Torches every 6-7 spaces in the branches, every 11 spaces in the main tunnel (it's 3 wide)
#646 [15:40] <relsqui> and those are on the floor, yeah?
#647 [15:40] <relsqui> not the walls?
#648 [15:40] <genshou> Yes.
#649 [15:41] <genshou> spawning seems to be wonky since 1.5
#650 [15:41] <xolotl> I've heard folks saying that the spawning code will sometimes glitch a bit, and if there's a dark cave right next to your lit passageway, there's a small chance that something'll spawn in the hallway instead of the cave, where it belongs
#651 [15:41] <xolotl> Dunno if that's true or not
#652 [15:41] <genshou> every once in a while I get a zombie/skeleton spawning in broad daylight and immediately catching fire. :\
#653 [15:41] * xolotl spreads rumors
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#654 [15:42] <relsqui> genshou: not near a large tree or anything?
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#656 [15:42] <genshou> nope, out in the middle of the plains on the Satan seed one spawned
#657 [15:42] <relsqui> weird
#658 [15:42] <relsqui> also I haven't tried that seed, how is it?
#659 [15:43] <Brenostar11> hi
#660 [15:43] <genshou> It's nice for testing purposes since there's a lot of flat land
#661 [15:43] <genshou> I used it to play with the Ruins mod templates
#662 [15:43] <Thoatt> Hello Brenostar11.
#663 [15:43] <Brenostar11> I have a question?
#664 [15:43] <genshou> (easy to spawn the ruins when there are large flat spaces)
#665 [15:43] <Thoatt> ??> Brenostar11 ask
#666 [15:43] <VoxelHead> Brenostar11: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#667 [15:43] <VoxelHead> Brenostar11: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#668 [15:43] <Jackson413> vsay i have this server host provider who allows users to have sql databases for their server, but does not provide phpmyadmin in order to access it. is there someway i can connect to a database remotely?
#669 [15:43] <Brenostar11> ok
#670 [15:44] <Jackson413> regarding that
#671 [15:44] <Thoatt> I need a linux server to derp on... I dislike XChat very much so...
#672 [15:44] <relsqui> genshou: oh, neat
#673 [15:44] <Jackson413> what is the standard sql client'
#674 [15:44] <Brenostar11> do I need a special router to forward ports for a server?
#675 [15:44] <Thoatt> yes Jackson413. There are many remote sql utilities.
#676 [15:44] <genshou> Personally I prefer the seed '303'
#677 [15:44] <Thoatt> No Brenostar11, most standard home routers can forward ports.
#678 [15:44] <relsqui> genshou: what's that one like?
#679 [15:45] <genshou> There's a MASSIVE cave system NNE of 0,0
#680 [15:45] <Brenostar11> ok have any idea how to forward then?
#681 [15:45] <genshou> and everything SW of 0,0 is just absolutely epic.
#682 [15:45] <relsqui> heh cool
#683 [15:45] <Thoatt> Brenostar11, http://portforward.com/
#684 [15:45] <genshou> massive cliffs, massive overhangs, waterfalls...
#685 [15:45] <relsqui> so a cross between 404 and Gargamel? :P
#686 [15:45] <genshou> there are even a few taiga biomes up on the cliffs
#687 [15:45] <Thoatt> Wait...
#688 [15:45] <genshou> Well, you don't start in the cave like on Gargamel
#689 [15:45] <Thoatt> That's not the site I wanted I don't think...
#690 [15:46] <Brenostar11> thanks I tried that before though?
#691 [15:46] <genshou> and it's got several natural entrances on the surface (unlike 404)
#692 [15:46] <Brenostar11> sorry for the?
#693 [15:46] <Brenostar11> thanks
#694 [15:46] <genshou> I explored the 303 cavern on Peaceful with handheld torch mod and got lost for half an hour :D
#695 [15:46] <Thoatt> I've been away too long I think... I can't remember the site I'm thinking of...
#696 [15:47] <genshou> the seed I play with is, naturally, 'Genshou' :D
#697 [15:47] <genshou> It is a nice mix of terrain overall
#698 [15:47] <Thoatt> I'd play on 'Thoatt' but it's really crappy...
#699 [15:47] <Thoatt> lol
#700 [15:47] <genshou> Have to create the world a dozen times to get spawn near 0,0 though
#701 [15:47] <Thoatt> MUCH LIKE ME! /rimshot
#702 [15:48] <genshou> half the time I end up over half a kilometre from there
#703 [15:49] <genshou> 0,0 is in the ocean with two 4-tall sugar canes and a forest nearby, a wooded island to the NW, and a small cave to the SE with exposed coal and iron in the sunlight
#704 [15:51] <genshou> also if you dig straight down from the sugar canes you fall into a lava pit below the lava layer where water is floating on top of the lava without obsidianizing it :)
#705 [15:52] <relsqui> neat!
#706 [15:52] <Jackson413> what is a nice open source remote sql facility
#707 [15:52] <Jackson413> utility (derp)
#708 [15:53] <Thoatt> Jackson413, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_database_tools
#709 [15:53] <Jackson413> <3
#710 [15:53] <Thoatt> SQLyog is good.
#711 [15:53] * xolotl adds "derp" to the list of Memes Sekhmet Hopes Will Die Soon
#711 [15:53] <xolotl> er, also xolotl
#712 [15:53] <xolotl> Whatever the hell my nick is on here
#713 [15:53] * xolotl looks around shiftily
#713 [15:54] <Jackson413> trolol
#714 [15:54] <Thoatt> If.... if derp dies... how will I express my feelings of derp and herp?! I'll be lost! I'll have to go back to the days of 'duh'... I shalln't have it.
#715 [15:55] * xolotl has never had "days of 'duh'" Sounds horrible!
#715 [15:55] <Thoatt> Days of duh. I have them every other day.
#716 [15:56] <Thoatt> All day errday.
#717 [15:56] <Thoatt> (+,)
#718 [15:56] <genshou> http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e106/genshou/Minecraft/2011-05-06_135355.png <--- world gen physics fail has become a decoration in my mine's resource room :)
#719 [15:57] <genshou> That lava pool is in the layer above highest adminium, too
#720 [15:57] <Thoatt> I don't mean to sound... mean... But that texture pack doesn't look too great. "/
#721 [15:57] <Thoatt> :/*
#722 [15:57] <genshou> Hmm.
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#724 [15:57] <genshou> I had to lower my standards to 64x64 when 1.5 came out
#725 [15:57] <Thoatt> xD
#726 [15:57] <genshou> I used to use 128x128 photo realism
#727 [15:57] <genshou> same textures but more detailed
#728 [15:57] <MrReaper> I've got a question about the website.
#729 [15:58] <Thoatt> Ouch... I always found those to be a tad bit too.... harsh(?) around the edges...
#730 [15:58] <Thoatt> MrReaper, go on... http://i.imgur.com/UU34H.gif
#731 [15:58] <genshou> but then
#732 [15:58] <genshou> idk
#733 [15:59] <genshou> I switched to some other 64x64
#734 [15:59] <MrReaper> Alright then. Seriously.
#735 [15:59] <_303> genshou: you highlighted me?
#736 [15:59] <Thoatt> rofl.
#737 [15:59] <Morrolan> Haha. :D
#738 [15:59] <Morrolan> We were talking about the map seed 303. :D
#739 [15:59] <genshou> ^
#740 [15:59] <Morrolan> Or rather, they were talking. :p
#741 [15:59] <_303> oh well. carry on
#742 [16:00] <genshou> Actually, not sure if I switched back to photo realism or if I'm still using whatever the other one was.
#743 [16:00] <Thoatt> Nono! We were talking about you... Aparently you have a pretty big cave system below your 0,0. Female I take it?
#744 [16:00] <MrReaper> Nevermind.
#745 [16:00] <genshou> Nah, it's NNE of 0,0 Thoatt
#746 [16:00] <Morrolan> And well, someone said that your "lava" sometimes fails.
#747 [16:00] <Thoatt> Oh... I pay great attention.
#748 [16:00] <genshou> Morrolan, the lava is in the Genshou seed.
#749 [16:00] <genshou> 303 just has epic cliffs everywhere to the SW
#750 [16:00] <Morrolan> Hmph, okay then.
#751 [16:00] <Thoatt> you people jump around too much.
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#753 [16:01] <Thoatt> Let's just agree that that 'Thoatt' seed blows.
#754 [16:01] <genshou> :P
#755 [16:01] <genshou> why is that?
#756 [16:01] <Thoatt> (If you catch what I'm saying)
#757 [16:01] <Thoatt> Go ahead and try it out and see lol
#758 [16:01] * genshou generates Thoatt, ends up in big ice desert? o_O
#758 [16:02] <Thoatt> eh?
#759 [16:02] <Thoatt> lemme look.... might have been 'thoatt'
#760 [16:02] <genshou> I don't see any trees >_>
#761 [16:02] <genshou> oh wait, there are some way in the distance in a taiga :)
#762 [16:03] <genshou> ...and a really deep pit right next to spawn D:
#763 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> I still find the 404 key _fascinating_
#764 [16:04] <genshou> found sugar canes very close to spawn, but no cacti in sight
#765 [16:04] <genshou> DopeGhoti, I found the 404 seed boring outside of the cave. :<
#766 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> Caves are the most fun though
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#768 [16:05] <xolotl> genshou: Perhaps, though the fun in 404 isn't above ground. :)
#769 [16:05] <genshou> indeed :D
#770 [16:05] <xolotl> That little pumpkin patch helps, though
#771 [16:05] <genshou> I play 404 with more hardcore rules re: what items I can bring down
#772 [16:05] <xolotl> (unless they changed the rules to disallow Jack-o-lanterns)
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#774 [16:06] <genshou> 1 pumpkin, 1 sugar cane, as many seeds as I can gather with 2 wooden hoes, 1 sapling, 1 cactus, 1 sand
#775 [16:06] <genshou> everything else is considered to have washed away during the descent or gotten soaked and become useless :D
#776 [16:07] <genshou> Also I don't let myself break smooth stone with anything but a diamond pickaxe, so it's more like an adventure map
#777 [16:07] <Thoatt> Okay well...
#778 [16:07] <genshou> Needless to say it's a slow start and I have a hard time getting very far =_=
#779 [16:07] <Thoatt> I'm gonna get ready to go now...
#780 [16:07] <genshou> kay :v
#781 [16:07] <Thoatt> volunteering! yay!
#782 [16:07] <genshou> I should get ready for work so I don't have to go OHSHI- at the last minute
#783 [16:07] <Thoatt> kealper, I'll be at your house in about half an hour
#784 [16:08] <Kealper> k
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#787 [16:18] <Jackson413> anyone know a nice open source remove sql utility?
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#790 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: what do you mean by 'remove SQL utility'?
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#796 [16:32] <MrCrashdummy> Anu one here?
#797 [16:32] <genshou> Silly question.
#798 [16:32] <Vhozard> no one
#799 [16:33] <MrCrashdummy> What IRC client are you guys using
#800 [16:33] <Kealper> Irssi
#801 [16:33] <Vhozard> irssi here
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#804 [16:37] <Crashdummy> So...
#805 [16:41] <genshou> ugh, random crashing of Minecraft ever since 1.5 =_=
#806 [16:41] <Morrolan> genshou: Only thing I've seen so far are random end of stream errors.
#807 [16:41] <Morrolan> Apart from that it's quite stable for me.
#808 [16:44] <Crashdummy> Morrolan Yeah, what's up with those errors?
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#810 [16:45] <Morrolan> No idea. As soon as I'm afk for an hour or so I can be quite sure that my client will have crashed with this error when I'm back.
#811 [16:45] <Morrolan> It's no big deal though, since nothing is lost normally.
#812 [16:46] <Superbongo> hi all
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#815 [16:46] <Morrolan> Hey Superbongo
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#818 [16:48] <Morrolan> "A message longer than 119 characters will cause the Beta (=1.5) server and client to crash." <-- Uhm, so you can just crash any server by sending a string which is too long?
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#821 [16:56] <Crashdummy> cya guys
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#827 [17:23] <Wahrheit> SO GUYS WHAT'S GOING ON
#828 [17:25] <Morrolan> Uhm, are you sure you typed that in the appropriate channel? :p
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#831 [17:34] <Wrongwaybro> hi
#832 [17:34] <Wrongwaybro> i have a question
#833 [17:34] <lemon-rev> yes ?
#834 [17:34] <Wrongwaybro> um
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#836 [17:35] <Wrongwaybro> i was watching some newbie minecraft videos
#837 [17:35] <lemon-rev> ok?
#838 [17:35] <Wrongwaybro> and i noticed they were playing alpha, and had 9 boxes to craft with
#839 [17:35] <Wrongwaybro> i just purchased and downloaded the latest version, and there's only 4 boxes to craft with?
#840 [17:35] <lemon-rev> ok, thats because thats your own crafting space, the 9 space is what is your crafting box
#841 [17:36] <lemon-rev> which you make out of wooden planks which yuo get when you put a tree stump in your crafting space
#842 [17:36] <Wrongwaybro> o.o
#843 [17:36] <lemon-rev> you get 4 of those, you put 4 in your crafting space, and you get a crafting table
#844 [17:36] <Wrongwaybro> yeah ive got that
#845 [17:36] <Wrongwaybro> now what o.o
#846 [17:37] <lemon-rev> put it down in like slot 1 of your hand slot, and right click on the ground, and it should appear
#847 [17:37] <lemon-rev> then you can click on it, again and make things in it
#848 [17:37] <Wrongwaybro> awesome!
#849 [17:37] <Wrongwaybro> thanks a bunch man
#850 [17:37] <lemon-rev> well theres soo much more
#851 [17:38] <lemon-rev> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#852 [17:38] <Wrongwaybro> im sure D:!
#853 [17:38] <Wrongwaybro> thanks! im sure a wiki will help a bunch
#854 [17:38] <lemon-rev> it should do, ask anything else yea
#855 [17:38] <Wrongwaybro> have a good day :)
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#863 [18:01] <Zozlae> Hello?
#864 [18:01] <lemon-rev> hi
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#866 [18:02] <Zozlae> Could someone help me with a Beta server problem
#867 [18:02] <Zozlae> ?
#868 [18:02] <lemon-rev> what trouble you having
#869 [18:02] <Zozlae> No one can connect to my server and I have portforwarded correctly and I do give my external IP but still nothing
#870 [18:03] <lemon-rev> hm,
#871 [18:03] <Zozlae> I honestly don't know what to do about it
#872 [18:03] <lemon-rev> type in !check zozlae
#873 [18:03] <Zozlae> !check zozlae
#874 [18:03] <lemon-rev> hm
#875 [18:03] <lemon-rev> just type check
#876 [18:03] <lemon-rev> not anything after
#877 [18:03] <Zozlae> !check
#878 [18:03] <lemon-rev> see if that comes
#879 [18:04] <lemon-rev> ok, that ip the bot just said is that the one your giving away ?
#880 [18:04] <Zozlae> nope
#881 [18:04] <lemon-rev> well it needs to be,
#882 [18:04] <lemon-rev> :)
#883 [18:04] <Zozlae> lol
#884 [18:04] <lemon-rev> unless there on the same network
#885 [18:04] <Zozlae> i used
#886 [18:04] <Zozlae> whatsmyip.org or w/e it is
#887 [18:04] <Zozlae> gave me something similar to thgat
#888 [18:04] <Zozlae> that* let me check that one now
#889 [18:04] <lemon-rev> hm, well whats my ip should be giving you that 184 thing
#890 [18:05] <lemon-rev> k
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#894 [18:09] <Zozlae> still no sucess :
#895 [18:09] <Zozlae> :|
#896 [18:09] <lemon-rev> what ip did you use to portforward
#897 [18:09] <Zozlae> my local computer
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#899 [18:10] <lemon-rev> which is ?
#900 [18:10] <Zozlae> 192.168.0.7
#901 [18:10] <Zozlae> sometimes .6 depending but i forwarded both
#902 [18:10] <lemon-rev> ok, did u use the standered port which for mc is 25565
#903 [18:10] <lemon-rev> ?
#904 [18:11] <Zozlae> yes
#905 [18:11] <lemon-rev> have you restarted your router ? could be the trouble ?
#906 [18:11] <Zozlae> i have i might try again
#907 [18:11] <lemon-rev> so you have done so before
#908 [18:11] <Zozlae> yes
#909 [18:12] <lemon-rev> i see, does your ip change or do you have a static ip ?
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#911 [18:12] <Zozlae> well it changed from a day ago
#912 [18:12] <Zozlae> idk why
#913 [18:12] <Robertx32> u got adsl maybe?
#914 [18:12] <lemon-rev> well if you reboot your router, does that change your ip , and possibly yes
#915 [18:12] <Zozlae> adsl?
#916 [18:13] <lemon-rev> adsl :)
#917 [18:13] <lemon-rev> yes i know wha you mean
#918 [18:13] <Robertx32> nvm ^^ i got that and its a changable ip router
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#920 [18:13] <lemon-rev> ok, well just make sure your giving the correct ip away when your server is, up as far as i can tell it should be working
#921 [18:14] <lemon-rev> if i am wrong then stick about, someone else could help
#922 [18:14] <Zozlae> anyway i can make it have a static IP with screwing everything up?
#923 [18:15] <lemon-rev> no
#924 [18:15] <lemon-rev> thats bad, you dont want to do that :)
#925 [18:15] <Zozlae> I won't then
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#927 [18:18] <Zozlae> feel free to try and connect using 184.96.245.90 I doubt it will work
#928 [18:18] <Morrolan> !check 184.96.245.90
#929 [18:18] <Morrolan> You're right, it won't. ;)
#930 [18:19] <Zozlae> >.>
#931 [18:19] <Zozlae> lovely
#932 [18:19] <lemon-rev> can you take screen shot of your router in portforward page ?
#933 [18:19] <Morrolan> ^
#934 [18:20] <Zozlae> do you just want the name of it, or the things I have portforwarded?
#935 [18:20] <Morrolan> Anyway, I really should go to bed, have a nice day.
#936 [18:20] <lemon-rev> the things yuo have portforwarded, like the page you have when you port forward
#937 [18:20] <lemon-rev> night morrolan
#938 [18:20] <Zozlae> okay
#939 [18:21] <Wahrheit> Unreleased album (Turtleneck and Chain) by The Lonely Island on #sxr-radio for the next hour! (don't hate me xales)
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#941 [18:22] <Zozlae> http://imgur.com/S2psO
#942 [18:23] <lemon-rev> why you got it port forwarded so many times
#943 [18:23] <Zozlae> idk
#944 [18:23] <lemon-rev> lol
#945 [18:23] <lemon-rev> its prob confuseing the shit out of it
#946 [18:23] <lemon-rev> lol
#947 [18:25] <Zozlae> Btw I have checked many times and the 25565 is open, so I have no idea why it doesn't work
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#949 [18:26] <lemon-rev> how long ago did you down load the server from minecraft.net
#950 [18:27] <Zozlae> I have craftbukkit installed and a ton of plugins aswell
#951 [18:28] <lemon-rev> well i know mods can f'it up something cronic, so they could be stopping you
#952 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Zozlae - Has this worked before?
#953 [18:28] <Zozlae> First time trying
#954 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Ah, and you're already trying bukkit with plugins?
#955 [18:29] <Zozlae> I heard good things about it
#956 [18:29] <Wahrheit> Do one part at a time.
#957 [18:29] <Wahrheit> Trust me.
#958 [18:29] <Wahrheit> Works a lot better.
#959 [18:29] <Zozlae> I even have permissions working and stuff
#960 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Well, alright. Could you go to your router's setup or status page, and give us the WAN or internet or public IP address/
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#962 [18:30] <lemon-rev> grey
#963 [18:30] <lemon-rev> 184.96.245.90, a
#964 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Hold on lemon-rev
#965 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> I want to hear that from Zozlae.
#966 [18:30] <lemon-rev> tthats hes from !zozlawe
#967 [18:30] <lemon-rev> oh ok
#968 [18:30] <lemon-rev> np
#969 [18:31] <Zozlae> My WAN setting show no IPs, just stuff about setting up ips
#970 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Um, no, your router's status page.
#971 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Should have an entry for Public/Internet/WAN ip address
#972 [18:33] <ienjoycheese> do minecraft accounts get de-premiumed if left alone for a few months?
#973 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> No
#974 [18:33] <ienjoycheese> interesting - i've still got my reciept from forever ago when i bought minecraft
#975 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> You sure you're using the right account?
#976 [18:33] <ienjoycheese> but i suddenly can't play after not playing for maybe 3 months or so
#977 [18:33] <ienjoycheese> positive, it's my only account
#978 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, may want to send an email to support@mojang.com, include your account name, transaction id/receipt.
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#980 [18:36] <ienjoycheese> word. doing so, thank you
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#982 [18:39] <Zozlae> Modem IP Address: 184.96.245.90
#983 [18:39] <Zozlae> Directly from the modem
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#985 [18:39] <Erickarkos> is there a way to rebind my f3 key to Q?
#986 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> No
#987 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Zozlae - Alright, have you deleted the duplicate port forwarding entries?
#988 [18:39] <Erickarkos> there is no way whatsoever?
#989 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope
#990 [18:40] <Erickarkos> ugh
#991 [18:40] <Zozlae> I will delete all the forwards to 25565 port
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#1011 [19:30] <Jackson413> lolwut
#1012 [19:30] <Shadow386> There a reason you posted that Jackson413?
#1013 [19:30] <relsqui> long paste -> bot sees spam -> bot mutes
#1014 [19:30] <Jackson413> found it funny
#1015 [19:30] <Shadow386> dont need to repost it
#1016 [19:30] <Shadow386> we all saw it
#1017 [19:30] <Jackson413> my bad
#1018 [19:31] <Jackson413> :S
#1019 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> you know what's funnier? Actually being funny instead of flooding a channel with IRC logs of nickspam.
#1020 [19:31] <Jackson413> sorry
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#1022 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> cheers. (:
#1023 [19:31] <Jackson413> lol
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#1025 [19:32] <m|kael> hello, ive just set up a mc server for me and my wife, i wonder is there a way to make a template with stuff for /give instead of writing a /give for everything?
#1026 [19:33] <Jackson413> bukkit
#1027 [19:33] <Jackson413> and lol u play with ur wife?
#1028 [19:33] <relsqui> wth is wrong with that?
#1029 [19:33] <m|kael> whats bukkit? and yeah we play together =)
#1030 [19:33] <Jackson413> dang i could never get any of my gfs play with it
#1031 [19:33] <Jackson413> pm me cause mod talk isnt here
#1032 [19:34] <oldtopman> m|kael: Not on vanilla, which I reccomend. But otherwise try #bukkit
#1033 [19:35] <m|kael> ok, thanks :)
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#1035 [19:39] <semaphore> i have a question
#1036 [19:39] <semaphore> what's the ideal sequence of cart accelerators for a vertical climb
#1037 [19:44] <ellisgeek> powered minecart track or old skool boosters
#1038 [19:44] <semaphore> powered track
#1039 [19:44] <ellisgeek> um one sec
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#1042 [19:47] <ellisgeek> every 5 or so blocks
#1043 [19:47] <ellisgeek> with some loss of speed
#1044 [19:48] <semaphore> so up four, powered, up four, powered, etc ?
#1045 [19:48] <ellisgeek> powered, up 4, powered, up 4,...
#1046 [19:49] <ellisgeek> just to be safe
#1047 [19:49] <semaphore> ok; that won't send up an empty cart
#1048 [19:49] <semaphore> but that's fine
#1049 [19:49] <ellisgeek> it may check here for more http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Powered_Rail#Optimal_use
#1050 [19:49] <ellisgeek> bie
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#1052 [19:50] <semaphore> thanks
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#1054 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> semaphore: this is the ratio we use on our server: http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/?x=-760&y=64&z=911&zoom=max
#1055 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> 3 on/4 off
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#1057 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> (yes, it needs a lot of gold)
#1058 [19:57] <semaphore> i didn't know you could build them on a ramp?
#1059 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> you can put powered rail anywhere a regular rail would go
#1060 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> it's rail, but powered.
#1061 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1062 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> But it doesn't do bends
#1063 [19:58] <semaphore> what's the mod for that map thingy?
#1064 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> Also, within two days of 1.5 coming out, we have managed to exhaust our gold supply and have renewed our mining efforts (:
#1065 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft Overviewer
#1066 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> I've got a few more gold blocks for you Dope
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#1068 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: excellent!
#1069 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> I've also extended two tunnel down quite a ways
#1070 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> tunnels*
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#1072 [20:09] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Feed is empty!
#1073 [20:09] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: Yeah, I love how gold is actually quite valuable now
#1074 [20:09] <xolotl> Instead of just rare. :)
#1075 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> no kidding
#1076 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> we used to ignore gold when we saw it unless it was in our way. "Meh. Just gold"
#1077 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> Now were all reexploring caves looking for thencetofor-ignored gold
#1078 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> it went instantly from "Pff, whatever" to "It's all used up already?!"
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#1080 [20:12] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: ikr
#1081 [20:12] <oldtopman> LeaderGir (on my server) always needs some for his roller-coaster
#1082 [20:12] <oldtopman> +s
#1083 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: I'll need at least three stacks of booster rails to finish the departure booster at just one of our main light rail terminals
#1084 [20:14] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: We already finished our subway. What kind of server are you on?
#1085 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com/?x=1165&y=64&z=235&zoom=-1 That building contains a departure and arrival helix that goes six stories underground
#1086 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> that'a a lot of boosting
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#1088 [20:14] <oldtopman> D:
#1089 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> the skyway is just below the world ceilng
#1090 [20:15] <oldtopman> D:
#1091 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> what kind of server? Vanilla
#1092 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> with no /givesies
#1093 [20:15] <oldtopman> :D
#1094 [20:15] <oldtopman> Those are the best!
#1095 [20:15] <oldtopman> (Because its like mine)
#1096 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> :D
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#1102 [20:32] <Smil3e> !check
#1103 [20:33] <Smil3e> !check 192.168.0.193
#1104 [20:34] <Smil3e> !!check 91.100.47.163
#1105 [20:34] <Smil3e> !check 91.100.47.163
#1106 [20:34] <Smil3e> !!check 192.168.0.1
#1107 [20:35] <Smil3e> !check 192.168.0.1
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#1110 [20:36] <hadcraft> Hello
#1111 [20:37] <oldtopmanserver> ??> hadcraft ask
#1112 [20:37] <VoxelHead> hadcraft: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1113 [20:37] <VoxelHead> hadcraft: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1114 [20:37] * oldtopmanserver ran out of patiance at work today
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#1115 [20:40] <hadcraft> I have a lan server at my house, I can connect just fine but my friend has connection issues. When he is able to connect it will be very laggy and he will get dc'd.
#1116 [20:41] <hadcraft> His computer can run it in single player without any lag issues, and he's able to connect to the internet just fine through the same wifi network.
#1117 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> Wifi. there's your problem right there.
#1118 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> try it using ethernet, just as an experiment
#1119 [20:43] <hadcraft> ok i will try that
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#1122 [20:48] <rand_> Hello all, I was wondering if all mobs drown
#1123 [20:48] <rand_> or are thier some that will live?
#1124 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> All mobs will drown
#1125 [20:49] <rand_> Thank you for the help
#1126 [20:49] <oldtopmanserver> Even dogs!
#1127 [20:49] <oldtopmanserver> And YOU!
#1128 [20:49] <rand_> user == mob?
#1129 [20:49] <rand_> lies
#1130 [20:49] <oldtopmanserver> User = Drownable!
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#1132 [20:54] <rand_> Another quick question. From the time a block is harvested (let's say cactus), how long until it disappears?
#1133 [20:55] <oldtopmanserver> 5 mins
#1134 [20:55] <rand_> awesome, thanks
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#1136 [21:06] <oldtopmanserver> np
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#1138 [21:06] <FireRat> Hello
#1139 [21:07] <FireRat> I'm trying to connect to my friends server, I can't connect but his friend can. Any ideas? There is no whitelist.
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#1143 [21:16] <weet> Is there any mod where I can open a shop where you can sell and buy items for $$$
#1144 [21:16] <weet> like in game $$$
#1145 [21:16] <FireRat> yes
#1146 [21:16] <weet> whats the mod?
#1147 [21:17] <FireRat> but I don't think we can help you with mods
#1148 [21:17] <weet> i just need to know the name of the mod
#1149 [21:18] <weet> whats the name of the mod?
#1150 [21:18] <FireRat> google it, prob something about minecraft shops and currency would get you something
#1151 [21:18] <FireRat> or try the forums
#1152 [21:18] <weet> why would you tell me yes, but if you don't know
#1153 [21:19] <FireRat> I do know. But i don't know how much I'm aloud to help you with mods in here since this is Game Help.
#1154 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> If you are able to help, please do
#1155 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> We've got nothing against mods here
#1156 [21:22] <FireRat> *shrug* I've been told before not to help with mods here, has that changed recently?
#1157 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Has never changed
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#1159 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> The thing is, many helpers here, aren't able to assist with every combination of mods available out there.
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#1161 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> We say that mods aren't officially supported here, because that's the stance of mojang, and it lets helpers off the hook with third party mods.
#1162 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> But look, I invite anybody who's able to help, to please feel free
#1163 [21:23] <FireRat> Alright
#1164 [21:24] <FireRat> Can you help me now then :) I want to join my friends server, someone else can join but I can't. Why? Also there is no whitelist
#1165 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Define, "Somebody else"
#1166 [21:25] <FireRat> our other friend
#1167 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Is he connecting from outside the house that the server is hosted on?
#1168 [21:28] <FireRat> hes in the house
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#1170 [21:34] <FireRat> He is on his server in our friends house
#1171 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay, so they're both in the same house?
#1172 [21:36] <hadcraft> Just to pass this on: I was able to get my friend to connect, I'm not sure what fixed it but I reset his firewall settings to default, reforwarded the port and updated java and windows.
#1173 [21:36] <FireRat> yes
#1174 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, it's the port forwarding
#1175 [21:37] <FireRat> hmm..
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#1178 [21:58] <omni-axiom> hey everyone
#1179 [21:58] <omni-axiom> Anybody active?
#1180 [21:58] <omni-axiom> Preferably anyone with lots of experience in redstone wiring?
#1181 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> A few of us are, but I gotta run off for a bit
#1182 [22:01] <omni-axiom> Alright, that's fine.
#1183 [22:01] <oldtopmanserver> What up?
#1184 [22:01] <omni-axiom> Well, I think I just found out what I need to do, but here's the gist of my problem:
#1185 [22:02] <omni-axiom> I've made it so that from my home base, all you have to do is flip a switch and further down the line a minecart track changes
#1186 [22:02] <omni-axiom> Also down the line is a launch mechanism to send me back to my base
#1187 [22:02] <omni-axiom> Unfortunately, once I trigger the switch and get down the line, my ability to get back to base is obstructed.
#1188 [22:02] <oldtopmanserver> Question: What is your view distance, and is this SMP
#1189 [22:02] <omni-axiom> I think what I need to do is make an XOR logic gate
#1190 [22:03] <omni-axiom> View distance?
#1191 [22:03] <omni-axiom> It's just single player
#1192 [22:03] <omni-axiom> And my view distance is max...?
#1193 [22:03] <omni-axiom> I think I'll tinker a little more and come back if I can't figure it out. Sorry to bother you.
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#1195 [22:04] <oldtopmanserver> ...
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#1198 [22:15] <m|kael> is it possible to make kits for minecraft server that admin can give to players?
#1199 [22:17] <SinZ> With mods, yes
#1200 [22:17] <m|kael> is it complicated to add such mod?
#1201 [22:21] <SinZ> this isn't the place for server mods
#1202 [22:21] <SinZ> go to #bukkit to ask
#1203 [22:22] <m|kael> i tried bukkit already but it hijack all sockets and make system crash once someone from another ip try connect, i wanna use the real server
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#1205 [22:22] <SinZ> then it'll be hell
#1206 [22:22] <m|kael> ok :(
#1207 [22:22] <m|kael> i guess i have to make a windows macro for alot of /give then
#1208 [22:23] <m|kael> thanks
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#1211 [22:37] <xales> GreyVulpine: I'm also going to take a food break. I made a checkpoint with a double chest, workbench, and furnace near the end of the rooms. There's some supplies in the chests (lots of cobble, some wood+sticks)
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#1217 [23:27] <SenorC> hello, is anyone awake?
#1218 [23:27] <Robo-Knight> hya
#1219 [23:27] <SenorC> hey robo
#1220 [23:27] <Robo-Knight> hya Senor
#1221 [23:27] <Robo-Knight> so is there a way to get rid of the lag/freezing on a Minecraft Map?
#1222 [23:28] <SenorC> Besides black magic, I don't know.
#1223 [23:28] <Robo-Knight> I've made mine very big/detailed & I can't make it smaller
#1224 [23:28] <Robo-Knight> heh, right then, thanks anyway
#1225 [23:28] <SenorC> but then, I'm not entirely knowledgable
#1226 [23:31] <Robo-Knight> hmmm... if it wasn't for the lag, I would be fine
#1227 [23:31] <SenorC> hey, so... is there any way to e-mail notch directly about account problems?
#1228 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes, support@mojang.com
#1229 [23:32] <SenorC> hmm... I opened a ticket with them 2 days ago and still haven't recieved any responses
#1230 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Just be patient then, they get a ton of emails daily
#1231 [23:33] <SenorC> hmm, ok
#1232 [23:35] <Robo-Knight> hey Grey?
#1233 [23:35] <Robo-Knight> any ideas on how to reduce Lag on a Minecraft Map besides making it smaller?
#1234 [23:38] <Wahrheit> Use SSDs
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#1236 [23:40] <Robo-Knight> SSD's?
#1237 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Robo-Knight - Depends on the type of lag
#1238 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Is your computer overloaded? Are there too many people on it?
#1239 [23:41] <Robo-Knight> it's not that
#1240 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Is this a utilization issue? A graphics issue? A network issue?
#1241 [23:41] <Robo-Knight> the thing is, I have alot of stuff on the map, IE, a very big building
#1242 [23:41] <Robo-Knight> and there are times when the game will freeze on me for a few seconds, maybe up to a minute if it's really bad
#1243 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that doesn't sound like normal lag..
#1244 [23:43] <Robo-Knight> :(
#1245 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> This in single player or SMP?
#1246 [23:43] <Robo-Knight> single player
#1247 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> What are your system's specs?
#1248 [23:44] <Robo-Knight> this is an HP Pavilion dv6700 Laptop, the OS is Vista
#1249 [23:45] <Robo-Knight> and my Memory is 500 GB
#1250 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> That's hard drive space, how about RAM?
#1251 [23:45] <Robo-Knight> 3 GB I think
#1252 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Weird, it shouldn't be doing that then
#1253 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> What else do you have running on the machine?
#1254 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Any antivirus? Defragmenting utilities?
#1255 [23:47] <Robo-Knight> the thing is, it's a very big building with alot inside of it
#1256 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't really matter
#1257 [23:47] <Robo-Knight> I'll try that when I go to sleep
#1258 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> No, I mean, are any of those running at the same time?
#1259 [23:47] <Robo-Knight> oh
#1260 [23:48] <Robo-Knight> I have Fire Fox, Ventrillo & possibly Steam, but I paused the games that were downloading & closed Steam afterwards
#1261 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> I assume this is on windows?
#1262 [23:48] <Robo-Knight> yes
#1263 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Could you check your Task Manager, look at the CPU and memory utilization when minecraft is running... see if there's anything strange going on there
#1264 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Maybe another process which is leeching resources at the same time
#1265 [23:50] <Robo-Knight> sure, I just need a minute
#1266 [23:51] <Robo-Knight> going in-game now
#1267 [23:51] <Robo-Knight> lets see, I need to remember how to check
#1268 [23:52] <Robo-Knight> let's*
#1269 [23:52] <Robo-Knight> dumb question, but how do I check that again?
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#1271 [23:52] <_Rix> does anyone know how i can install modloader on ubuntu
#1272 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> ctrl-shift-esc, or right click on the start menu below Robo-Knight
#1273 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Then "Task manager"
#1274 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> _Rix - You might want to ask about modloader related questions in #risucraft
#1275 [23:53] <_Rix> thank you
#1276 [23:54] <Robo-Knight> ah, that's another thing I was gonna ask about, thanks for that too
#1277 [23:55] <Robo-Knight> CPU Usage is 87% - 94% & Memory is 1.83 GB
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#1279 [23:57] <Robo-Knight> hmmm...
#1280 [23:57] <Robo-Knight> I've never even been to this window before
#1281 [23:57] <Robo-Knight> I'm in Resource Monitor btw