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#12 [01:00] <Awesomeslayerg> hi
#13 [01:00] <Awesomeslayerg> ?
#14 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#15 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> What's up?
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#18 [01:02] <J0ndice> I bought minecraft in alpha, but recently while trying to play I'm told that I'm not a premium user
#19 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> We can't really do anything with account issues. You'll want to send an email to support@mojang.com
#20 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Be sure to include your transaction ID
#21 [01:03] <J0ndice> ok, thanks
#22 [01:04] <J0ndice> heard of other people having similar problems?
#23 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> A few, yes
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#36 [01:47] * xales pokes Kealper
#36 [01:47] <Kealper> rawr
#37 [01:47] <xales> I got the mail to work \o/
#38 [01:47] <Kealper> \o/
#39 [01:47] <xales> even forwarding \o/
#40 [01:47] <Kealper> \o/
#41 [01:48] <xales> what address(es) do you want? :)
#42 [01:48] <xales> [they will forward mail to your gmail]
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#44 [01:50] * xales pokes Kealper
#44 [01:52] <Kealper> uhh
#45 [01:52] <Kealper> goburn@inafire.com
#46 [01:53] <aetherian> xD
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#50 [02:07] <genshou> aw crud, what's the link to that google doc containing world seeds again? does one of the bots show it on command? :x
#51 [02:09] <Morrolan> Uhm, no idea.
#52 [02:09] <Morrolan> ??< index
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#54 [02:10] <_303> genshou: http://bit.ly/lDqgb3 ?
#55 [02:10] <_303> that's from #minecraft-maps
#56 [02:11] <genshou> nvm, answered in #risucraft <3
#57 [02:11] <Morrolan> Oh, and what is the link?
#58 [02:12] <_303> http://is.gd/MCSeed
#59 [02:12] <Morrolan> Thanks.
#60 [02:14] <Morrolan> ??< phantominput
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#63 [02:15] <coz> hey, after a sudden reboot i get some errors .. currently it lets me connect on localhost but I want to see if it's still working for others
#64 [02:16] <xales> Just say "!check (ip)"
#65 [02:16] <Kealper> yeah, if you run it from your house just say !check
#66 [02:16] <Kealper> it'll guess your IP automagically
#67 [02:16] <coz> !check
#68 [02:16] <xales> Kealper: "guess"
#69 [02:16] <xales> :P
#70 [02:17] <Kealper> it's only got a 1 in 4.2 billion chance of getting it righ the first time!
#71 [02:17] <Kealper> right*
#72 [02:17] <coz> well ok, but thats basically just a port check ;p
#73 [02:18] <Kealper> basically
#74 [02:18] <xales> No, it's not
#75 [02:18] <xales> It actually connected to your server
#76 [02:18] <coz> 08:16:39 [INFO] /67.177.131.104:53872 lost connection
#77 [02:18] <coz> ;p
#78 [02:18] <Kealper> yeah, if you look in your server console you will see that something connected and disconnected real fast
#79 [02:18] <Kealper> but it doesn't try to log in
#80 [02:18] <Kealper> since i don't have a paid beta account for it to use, i just didn't both
#81 [02:18] <Kealper> bother
#82 [02:18] <coz> so its still not much more as a port check ;p
#83 [02:19] <xales> coz: If it got that far, then it works fine
#84 [02:19] <Morrolan> It's establishing a TCP connection on the specified port, what do you want moer? ;)
#85 [02:19] <Morrolan> more*
#86 [02:19] <Kealper> which btw xales i was messing around and i can get a program to log in to a server if it's not using online mode
#87 [02:20] <coz> well preferably to have the server not say [SEVERE] java.util.zip.ZipException: Not in GZIP format (and then a whoole lot more warnings) when it starts
#88 [02:20] <Kealper> working in big endian binary is weird though...because i'm used to stuff like 0x010700 instead of 0x010007 though
#89 [02:21] <Kealper> coz: server address? i'll be nice >.>
#90 [02:21] <coz> 82.73.169.16 :)
#91 [02:22] <Kealper> nothing....you world is probably corrupted
#92 [02:23] <coz> the spawn moved as well it seems, im on a diff spot as i expected when i saw you join and did /tp
#93 [02:24] <Kealper> yeah, that map is definately shot then
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#95 [02:25] <coz> well the map is still working fine if i log in so the content isnt lost yet..thank god ;p
#96 [02:26] <coz> what file would it complain about thats not in gzip format ?
#97 [02:26] <coz> level dat?
#98 [02:26] <Kealper> the map data itself
#99 [02:27] <Kealper> level.dat must be semi-fine if it starts up, but one of those mcr files in the region folder is actually corrupted
#100 [02:29] <coz> hmm.could one of you try again, i retrieved level dat from earlier backup and at least its not giving errors now
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#102 [02:29] <Kealper> [02:28:15] Announcement: [MC] AuBot has joined the chat! <-- \o/
#103 [02:32] <coz> cheers
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#105 [02:32] <Kealper> well, that worked that time
#106 [02:33] <Kealper> now back to working on making a program to connect to my mc server
#107 [02:33] <coz> *quickly makes a new backup* ;D
#108 [02:33] <Kealper> and probably have it type out Still Alive on a sign or something
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#110 [02:33] <Kealper> after i implement pings so it doesn't DC
#111 [02:34] <xales> Kealper: Want you gone > Still alive
#112 [02:34] <xales> :)
#113 [02:35] <Kealper> well no, i'd rather a newfound minebot be singing that it's still alive rather than being gone
#114 [02:36] <Morrolan> Kealper: You got it working? Nice. I'm still stuck with the Handshake - Response - Authentication - Response - Login - ... stuff.
#115 [02:36] <Kealper> i wish minecraft's packets had their length right inside them so i could just ignore most packets easily and parse only what i cared about
#116 [02:37] <xales> Kealper: They...do, don't they?
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#118 [02:37] <Kealper> Morrolan: i'm not using online-mode on my server, but online-mode isn't much more difficult, just an https post before the handshake to get your crap in the system
#119 [02:37] <Kealper> xales: no
#120 [02:38] <Morrolan> Kealper: Oh, my problem is just my inexperience when it comes to anything more complicated than a HTTP post I guess. But I'll get it working someday! :p
#121 [02:39] <Kealper> it has lengths for strings and stuff, or anything that will be a variable length...but there is nothing marking the size of that whole packet's payload :/
#122 [02:39] <Kealper> Morrolan: oh lol
#123 [02:39] <Kealper> Morrolan: yeah, this is all working with binary data, not even text data like irc lol
#124 [02:40] <Blackthorne> Anyone have any ideas how to make a program stop making my window inactive?
#125 [02:41] <Kealper> Blackthorne: uhh...what? lol
#126 [02:41] <Morrolan> Kealper: Yea, who needs that low level stuff anyway. :p Seriously though, I'm reading through Kreate's source atm, to see how this all works.
#127 [02:41] <Blackthorne> I have a wireless usb adapter.
#128 [02:41] <Blackthorne> The program that lets me connect to my router keeps making my window inactive.
#129 [02:41] <Blackthorne> It gets damn annoying.
#130 [02:42] <xales> Kill it?
#131 [02:42] <Kealper> Morrolan: when i was first learning how to work with binary data, i found it quite fun.... AuBot's channel log module is actually a product of that lol...all the #minecrafthelp logs are stored in a binary format instead of just text files
#132 [02:42] <xales> It's very unlikely it needs to actually be running after the connection is actually established
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#134 [02:43] <Kealper> uhh....
#135 [02:43] <Kealper> it'll probably kill his internet if he kills it
#136 [02:43] <xales> Nope
#137 [02:43] <xales> Those programs are usually just branded interfaces
#138 [02:43] <Kealper> a lot of usb wireless adapters have shitty software they run that disables the windows wireless networking shit and they do their own interacting
#139 [02:43] <xales> Exactly
#140 [02:44] <xales> It doesn't need to be active to keep the interface up
#141 [02:44] <xales> It's not the driver itself; it only pushes changes to the driver
#142 [02:44] <Kealper> the one i had for my laptop stopped the driver when i stopped it
#143 [02:45] <Kealper> needless to say, that program was out the window quicker than you could bat an eye lol
#144 [02:45] <xales> Stopped, or killed? :D
#145 [02:45] <Kealper> killed, it gave no way to sanely stop it...probably because of that reason >.>
#146 [02:46] <Kealper> i find the windows manager does it's job fine, anyways
#147 [02:46] <xales> not on Windows XP
#148 [02:46] <xales> it _only_ supported WEP
#149 [02:47] <xales> Didn't support WPA-PSK
#150 [02:47] <Kealper> oh, XP....don't remind me of that garbage os (yeah, i said it)
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#152 [02:47] <xales> The only thing that Microsoft could make that wouldn't suck is a vacuum cleaner
#153 [02:48] <Kealper> XD
#154 [02:48] <AG_Scott> xales, WPA2 was added in an update.
#155 [02:49] <xales> AG_Scott: O RLY
#156 [02:49] <AG_Scott> yarly
#157 [02:49] <xales> Because I still have XP on this comptuer
#158 [02:49] <xales> and it still doesn't work
#159 [02:49] <xales> :)
#160 [02:49] <AG_Scott> Then you don't have the patch installed.
#161 [02:49] <Kealper> pirate.
#162 [02:49] <xales> AG_Scott: I'm fairly certain I do
#163 [02:49] <AG_Scott> Also, you fail for having XP.
#164 [02:49] <Kealper> time to go in to my server and see AuBot standing there
#165 [02:50] <xales> I don't use it :)
#166 [02:50] <Kealper> even though it's not actually AuBot, it's a separate program...
#167 [02:50] <AG_Scott> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/networking/windows-xp-service-pack-3-provides-updated-wpa2-support/502
#168 [02:50] <AG_Scott> kthx
#169 [02:52] <Kealper> holy crap i wish you people could see just how much data is being sent to this program.....
#170 [02:53] <Morrolan> Yeah, already saw some people saying that the Minecraft server is sending a lot of data.
#171 [02:53] <Kealper> i knew it was a lot already from other tests and such....
#172 [02:53] <Kealper> but man, actually seeing all the raw data being shown as it's recieved...it's intense
#173 [02:53] <Morrolan> Oh, if you have chat working, try sending a string longer than 119 characters, think I've read somewhere that it will crash the server.
#174 [02:53] <Kealper> yeah, it will
#175 [02:53] <Morrolan> It really does?
#176 [02:54] <Morrolan> So you can crash any server you're connected to?
#177 [02:54] <xales> Kealper: I think it's actually like that because the server is just dumb
#178 [02:54] <Kealper> well
#179 [02:54] <xales> The client should work fine without the packet spam
#180 [02:54] <xales> I actually have been meaning to try it
#181 [02:54] <Kealper> if the client GETS a string longer than that it will crash, the server probably truncates it
#182 [02:55] <Kealper> the server has much more error-handling code in it than the client does, as it should
#183 [02:55] <NotBlackthorne> <xales> It's very unlikely it needs to actually be running after the connection is actually established
#184 [02:55] <NotBlackthorne> You'd think so, but you'd be wrong.
#185 [02:55] <xales> NotBlackthorne: You can probably disable it then, and just use Wireless Zero
#186 [02:56] <Kealper> ninja'd
#187 [02:56] <xales> (Window's built-in wireless management)
#188 [02:56] <xales> Windows'*
#189 [02:56] <NotBlackthorne> How would I do that>
#190 [02:56] <NotBlackthorne> ?
#191 [02:56] <xales> It should be a preference in the software
#192 [02:56] <xales> To disable it, or use Windows to configure networking
#193 [02:56] <NotBlackthorne> It isn't.
#194 [02:56] <xales> There should be a setting on the adapter itself then
#195 [02:57] <Kealper> kill that program with fire, use msconfig to prevent it from starting up, then use services to enable the Wireless Zero Configuration service (methinks)
#196 [02:57] <xales> Nope
#197 [02:57] <xales> Go to the adapter preferences
#198 [02:57] <xales> you can tell it to use Wireless Zero somewhere in there
#199 [02:57] <Kealper> but yeah, follow mine only if what xales says fails, because my way you can break stuff bad if you don't know what you are doing
#200 [02:58] <NotBlackthorne> No options like that.
#201 [02:58] <xales> It's there
#202 [02:58] <Blackthorne> It really isn't.
#203 [02:58] <xales> Did you go to the _connection_ properties or the _adapter_ properties?
#204 [02:58] <Blackthorne> Neither.
#205 [02:58] <xales> Then how do you know it isn't there?
#206 [02:59] <Blackthorne> Because there are no properties.
#207 [02:59] <xales> Yes, there are
#208 [02:59] <xales> Go to Device Manager -> Network Adapters
#209 [02:59] <xales> Right click -> Properties
#210 [03:04] <Blackthorne> ok then
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#214 [03:08] <Kealper> 2011-05-08 03:07:26 [INFO] AuBot lost connection: disconnect.quitting <-- leaving servers works right now \o/
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#216 [03:10] <Kealper> A message longer than 119 characters will cause the Beta (≥1.5) server and client to crash. <-- really?
#217 [03:10] <Kealper> the server seriously does not truncate that? i don't believe...i'm trying it
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#219 [03:12] <Kharne> Hi.. I have a couple problems. :|
#220 [03:13] <xales> What, specifically?
#221 [03:13] <Kharne> Well for one, when I click to play in browser, the window doesn't even show up.
#222 [03:13] <xales> Do you have Java installed?
#223 [03:13] <Kharne> It goes to a blank minecraft screen with the menu up at the top.
#224 [03:13] <Kharne> Yes.. reinstalled it even.
#225 [03:14] <xales> What OS, what browser?
#226 [03:14] <Kharne> Firefox, Vista Service Pack 2?
#227 [03:15] <xales> Did it prompt you to trust the Java applet?
#228 [03:15] <Kharne> It's opening nothing about java..
#229 [03:15] <Kharne> And I have no way to open java itself in the files
#230 [03:15] <Kharne> But in my addons/plug ins, it says Java is enabled.
#231 [03:16] <xales> Are you trying to play Classic or Beta?
#232 [03:16] <Kharne> beta
#233 [03:16] <xales> Try the download client
#234 [03:16] <Kharne> That's my second problem
#235 [03:16] <Kharne> It downloads it, fine
#236 [03:16] <Kharne> But when I try to use the exe, it asks me if I wanna use it.. I hit yes
#237 [03:16] <Kharne> Then it does nothing..
#238 [03:16] <Kharne> Opens nothing.
#239 [03:17] <xales> Copy the EXE to your desktop
#240 [03:17] <Kharne> It's there.
#241 [03:17] <xales> Open a command prompt (Go to the Start menu, search for 'cmd')
#242 [03:17] <xales> Type "java -jar Desktop\Minecraft.exe"
#243 [03:17] <Kharne> Java is not recognizable
#244 [03:18] <Kharne> recognized*
#245 [03:18] <xales> Bleh, okay
#246 [03:18] <xales> Do you have 32-bit or 64-bit Vista?
#247 [03:18] <Kharne> 64
#248 [03:18] <xales> Type, in the command prompt
#249 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Do you know if you have 32 or 64 bit java installed?
#250 [03:19] <xales> C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe -jar Desktop\Minecraft.jar
#251 [03:19] <xales> (you can copy+paste it)
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#253 [03:19] <Silent_Samurai> You should have your PATH set anyway.
#254 [03:20] <Kharne> c:\program is not recognized..
#255 [03:20] <Silent_Samurai> "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -jar Desktop\Minecraft.jar
#256 [03:20] <Silent_Samurai> Fixed
#257 [03:20] <xales> ^
#258 [03:20] <xales> Windows is silly :|
#259 [03:20] <Kharne> Unable to access Jarfile
#260 [03:20] <xales> Oh, sorry
#261 [03:20] <xales> Make it Minecraft.exe, not .jar
#262 [03:21] <Kharne> ..did it.. did nothing.
#263 [03:21] <Silent_Samurai> Or you can just download the .jar version.
#264 [03:21] <xales> Kharne: Did it just immediately return to the prompt?
#265 [03:21] <Kharne> Yea.. just a space, then another blinking text box
#266 [03:22] <xales> Okay, completely uninstall any and all versions of Java listed in Programs and Features
#267 [03:22] <xales> Then, download and install 64-bit Java
#268 [03:25] <Kharne> Said I had two.. update 7 and update 25
#269 [03:25] <Kharne> Removing 25 now
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#271 [03:27] <Kharne> Or I would be, if it wasn't stuck preparing to remove it...
#272 [03:28] <xales> It might take a while
#273 [03:28] <xales> (if it takes more than 30 minutes, something is horribly wrong)
#274 [03:28] <Kharne> I honestly hope I don't have to wait that long..
#275 [03:28] <xales> It's not likely that you will
#276 [03:28] <Kharne> The update 7 went quicker.. it asked me for permission after a bit of waiting, then did it.
#277 [03:28] <Kharne> There we go
#278 [03:29] <Kharne> just asked for permission.. lol
#279 [03:33] <Kharne> We have detected you may be viewing this page in a 32-bit browser. If you use 32-bit and 64-bit browsers interchangeably, you will need to install both 32-bit and 64-bit Java in order to have the Java plug-in for both browsers.
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#281 [03:33] <Kharne> When I went to look at versions..
#282 [03:33] <xales> Install the 64-bit version
#283 [03:34] <xales> You don't actually need the 32-bit version
#284 [03:35] <Kharne> Is firefox always 32-bit?
#285 [03:35] <xales> No
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#290 [03:37] <Kharne> ..windows installer has stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly.
#291 [03:37] <xales> O_o
#292 [03:37] * xales pokes Kealper
#292 [03:37] <Kharne> ..but the java install window kept going.
#293 [03:37] <Kharne> After I said close program
#294 [03:37] <xales> That's..interesting
#295 [03:37] <Kharne> Yea, it's still going. Lmao
#296 [03:37] <Kealper> wut
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#300 [03:43] <Kharne> so..
#301 [03:44] <Kharne> Computer bluescreened. IRQL not less or equal
#302 [03:44] <xales> You have...a pretty serious problem then
#303 [03:45] <Kharne> Sigh..
#304 [03:45] <Silent_Samurai> Your Java is screwed XD
#305 [03:46] <Kharne> Well it was installing java..
#306 [03:46] <Kharne> When it bluescreened
#307 [03:46] <Kharne> So what is the serious problem and how do I fix it?
#308 [03:46] <xales> You'd probably be better off just reinstalling Windows
#309 [03:47] <xales> IRQL not less or equal is either a driver or hardware issue, and it's less likely to be the latter
#310 [03:47] <Kharne> Yea, that doesn't sound like fine..
#311 [03:47] <Kharne> fun*
#312 [03:47] <Kharne> I play Rift and WoW just fine on this computer.. and minecraft is what's breaking it. :P Sigh.
#313 [03:49] <Kharne> so I have to reinstall windows to play Minecraft?
#314 [03:49] <Kealper> ehh....probably not, but if it's bluescreening just trying to uninstall a program...that's definately not a good sign
#315 [03:50] <Kharne> No, it had already uninstalled Java
#316 [03:50] <Kharne> I was installing the new java.
#317 [03:50] <Kealper> then take the "un" out from what i said, because it's still valid :/
#318 [03:51] <Kharne> Meh. I didn't know if it made a difference, sorry.
#319 [03:51] <Kealper> a bluescreen on any time usually means something is seriously amis :/
#320 [03:52] <Kealper> idk, want to try best two out of three? (try installing it again)
#321 [03:53] <Kharne> Lol..
#322 [03:53] <Kharne> Guess I could.
#323 [03:54] <Kharne> ..this software has already been installed on your computer
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#325 [03:55] <Kealper> hell, try Minecraft again
#326 [03:56] <Kharne> Nope. blank screen
#327 [03:56] <Kharne> No java pop up
#328 [03:56] <Kharne> nuffin
#329 [03:57] <Kealper> :/
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#331 [03:57] <Kharne> just tried the minecraft.exe
#332 [03:57] <Kharne> Launch4j window
#333 [03:58] <Kharne> this application requires Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0
#334 [03:58] <Kealper> well, guess it didn't install right then
#335 [03:58] <Kealper> (figured it probably didn't_
#336 [03:58] <Kealper> bah, )&
#337 [03:58] <Kealper> bah! *
#338 [03:59] <Kharne> Telling it to reinstall
#339 [03:59] <Kharne> If I disappear, I probably won't come back, seeing as how this is.. kinda shot.
#340 [03:59] <Kharne> :P
#341 [03:59] <Kharne> I appreciate the help though.
#342 [04:01] <Kharne> Zomg
#343 [04:01] <Kharne> I'm alive
#344 [04:01] <Kealper> reinstalled?
#345 [04:01] <Kharne> Seems that way.
#346 [04:01] <Kharne> Trying the inbrowser
#347 [04:02] <Kharne> lololol.. *headdeskheaddesk*
#348 [04:02] <Kharne> Still blank screen.
#349 [04:02] <Kealper> ._.
#350 [04:02] <Kealper> wiat
#351 [04:02] <Kealper> wait*
#352 [04:03] <Kealper> you are in the browser still, right?
#353 [04:03] <Kharne> Yes?
#354 [04:03] <Kealper> see the java cup icon in the bottom right of your screen?
#355 [04:03] <Kharne> No.
#356 [04:03] <Kealper> are you still on the play minecraft page?
#357 [04:03] <Kharne> Yea. /game/
#358 [04:03] <Kealper> what browser do you use.....
#359 [04:04] <Kharne> firefox
#360 [04:04] <Kharne> On my other compu, firefox worked fine..
#361 [04:04] <Kealper> is the background of that page just the stone texture without any sort of game window embedded at all?
#362 [04:04] <Kharne> Yes.
#363 [04:04] <Kealper> java isn't starting
#364 [04:04] <Kharne> I noticed.
#365 [04:04] <Kealper> lol
#366 [04:04] <Kharne> How do I fix that?
#367 [04:05] <Kealper> depends on why it didn't start
#368 [04:05] <Kealper> open a cmd window
#369 [04:05] <Kharne> Is there a 64-bit version of firefox that I don't have?
#370 [04:05] <Kharne> Lol
#371 [04:05] * Sqozza slaps AuBot
#371 [04:05] <Sqozza> Bad AuBot.
#372 [04:05] <Kharne> cmd open
#373 [04:05] <Sqozza> BAAD.
#374 [04:05] <Kealper> waaaaaaaaait
#375 [04:06] <Kealper> you installed 64 bit java?
#376 [04:06] <Kharne> ...yes?
#377 [04:06] <Kharne> I was told to.
#378 [04:06] <Kealper> hmm...
#379 [04:06] <Kealper> yeah, with cmd, type java -version
#380 [04:06] <Kealper> press enter
#381 [04:06] <Kealper> does that spit out a version?
#382 [04:06] <Kharne> Yea.
#383 [04:07] <Kharne> 1.6.0_25
#384 [04:07] <Kealper> try using the 64 bit version of IE real fast
#385 [04:07] <Silent_Samurai> Try running MC in IE, with the version eg IE 64 bit for 64 bit Java.
#386 [04:07] <Silent_Samurai> Oh ninja'd
#387 [04:07] <Kharne> Lemme find it..
#388 [04:07] <Kealper> how ironic that your name is Silent_Samurai
#389 [04:07] <Kealper> lol
#390 [04:07] <Kharne> y u so slow, ie
#391 [04:07] <Silent_Samurai> What
#392 [04:08] <Kealper> samurai..ninja...etc
#393 [04:08] <Silent_Samurai> Lol wut
#394 [04:08] * Kealper sighs
#394 [04:08] <Kharne> IE's not opening...
#395 [04:08] <Silent_Samurai> I was going to change my nick to Silent_Ninja just to piss people off, but I couldn't.
#396 [04:08] <Kealper> lol
#397 [04:08] <Silent_Samurai> Silent_Ninja #minecraft :Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
#398 [04:08] <Kharne> Wait
#399 [04:08] <Kharne> There it goes.
#400 [04:09] <Kealper> Internet Explorer: The worlds best browser...
#401 [04:09] <Kealper> ...For downloading a better browser.
#402 [04:09] <NotiCon> Silent_Samurai: you either need to leave the channel or register with nickserv
#403 [04:09] <Kharne> ...sunuva b-.
#404 [04:09] <Silent_Samurai> NotiCon, right.
#405 [04:09] <Morrolan> Silent_Samurai: Must be because #Minecraft requires, bah.
#406 [04:09] <Silent_Samurai> Im ok.
#407 [04:09] <Kharne> Java started up.
#408 [04:09] <Kealper> Kharne: worked fine in IE?
#409 [04:09] <Kharne> It's updating minecraft
#410 [04:10] <Kharne> yea
#411 [04:10] <Kharne> It's open... so I should download different firefox/
#412 [04:10] <Kharne> ?
#413 [04:10] <Kealper> not just yet
#414 [04:10] <Kealper> lemme comprehend something first
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#416 [04:10] <Kealper> because i was not here when you came in
#417 [04:11] <Kealper> you had already reinstalled java 32bit, right?
#418 [04:11] <Kealper> and it didn't work?
#419 [04:11] <Kharne> I guess?
#420 [04:11] <Kealper> that wasn't very promising....lol
#421 [04:11] <Kharne> I don't get it. X.x
#422 [04:12] <Silent_Samurai> I do hope you weren't using a 64 bit browser before...
#423 [04:12] <Kealper> when it wasn't working before (i assume the reason as to why you are here), did you already try to reinstall Java without sucess?
#424 [04:12] <Silent_Samurai> When you had 32 bit...
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#426 [04:12] <Kealper> Silent_Samurai: no, that wasn't the case
#427 [04:12] <Silent_Samurai> Right.
#428 [04:12] <Kharne> No, I just downloaded the update and installed it.
#429 [04:12] <Kharne> Hence why I guess I had 2 different versions.
#430 [04:12] <Kealper> ok so you never even did the full reinstall....
#431 [04:12] <Kharne> Guess not.
#432 [04:13] <Kealper> go back to http://java.com and install the 32 bit one (yes, both ones like that can be installed side-by-side)
#433 [04:13] <Kharne> ...
#434 [04:13] <Kharne> But it's scary.
#435 [04:13] <Kharne> I might bluescreen again.
#436 [04:13] <Kealper> you won't have to do any of the stuff you had to last time because the broken java is already uninstalled
#437 [04:14] <Kealper> all you basically have to do now is just make it so 32 bit programs can use java
#438 [04:14] <Kharne> Alright, downloading 32bit..
#439 [04:15] <Kealper> because if you downloaded a 64 bit firefox, stuff like Flash and such won't work without lots of headaches, so it's best to just stick with a 32 bit browser because software companies like Adobe (makes Flash) suck
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#441 [04:15] <Kharne> Lol, oh. Okay.
#442 [04:15] <abdel> can soem one help me i was told to come here for it
#443 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> abdel - With?
#444 [04:16] <Kealper> which although it is easier to go without Flash than it was a few years ago...i still like my 720p youtube videos :<
#445 [04:16] <Kharne> I do like me some youtube.
#446 [04:16] <abdel> ] lost connection10:30:27 [INFO] lost connection10:30:56 [INFO] lost connection10:31:16 [INFO] lost connectionand so on some people can joien others can't
#447 [04:16] <Kealper> anywho, brb cold pizza
#448 [04:16] <abdel> that is what i get when people joine my server
#449 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> abdel - Do you have any more information than that? How are people joining? How do you have it hosted?
#450 [04:17] <abdel> yes
#451 [04:17] <abdel> i can give u the ip if you whant to test it
#452 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any security software on the computer that might be blocking it?
#453 [04:17] <abdel> nope
#454 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> What operating system is it running?
#455 [04:18] <abdel> its vps hosted i ahve 2 server on the vps and thay are on 2 ip but my server started doign it yester day
#456 [04:18] <abdel> and the os is cent os 5.5
#457 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried testing it with a fresh server? Fresh map?
#458 [04:18] <abdel> yep
#459 [04:19] <abdel> i get the same
#460 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> Server modded in any way?
#461 [04:19] <abdel> but my bros server is fine i tested the my server with his files
#462 [04:19] <Kealper> i go out to the kitchen for cold pizza and come back with Swiss Rolls....how does that work >.>
#463 [04:19] <abdel> and get the same connection lost
#464 [04:20] <Kealper> huh.
#465 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> abdel - Then you'll need to take it up with your VPS provider
#466 [04:20] <Kealper> i guess Kharne got another bsod ._.
#467 [04:20] <abdel> ok what should i say
#468 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> You get connection problems hosting a minecraft server off of port 25565, you want to know if there's any issues with your provider blocking or filtering connections on that port
#469 [04:22] <abdel> should i try it on a diffrent port number
#470 [04:22] <abdel> ok ty
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#472 [04:22] <Kharne> Yay bluescreen!
#473 [04:22] <Kharne> A different one this time
#474 [04:22] <Kharne> Memory_management
#475 [04:22] <Kealper> Kharne: oh?
#476 [04:22] <Kealper> uhh...
#477 [04:23] <Kealper> that is probably not good...
#478 [04:23] <Kharne> Well I would assume no bluescreens are.
#479 [04:23] <Morrolan> Do you have some spare RAM lying around somewhere?
#480 [04:23] <Kealper> ^
#481 [04:23] <abdel> yer
#482 [04:23] <Kharne> ..no? Lul
#483 [04:24] <Morrolan> Cause if you get a lot of different bluescreens it's probably your RAM.
#484 [04:24] <Morrolan> Might be worth a shot stresstesting it.
#485 [04:24] <Kharne> Well I don't have any, so.
#486 [04:24] <Kharne> Should I just try installing again?
#487 [04:24] <Kealper> couldn't hurt
#488 [04:24] <Kealper> well
#489 [04:25] <Kharne> It could..
#490 [04:25] <Kharne> my time, namely.
#491 [04:25] <Kealper> as long as you don't have any open files
#492 [04:25] <Kharne> :P
#493 [04:25] <Morrolan> Well, if you have the time then download a tool like Memtest, and let it run for a few hours.
#494 [04:25] <Kealper> what Morrolan is actually a good suggestion, maybe do that before you go to sleep and leave it running overnight
#495 [04:25] <Kharne> What does that do exactly?
#496 [04:26] <Kealper> because something is causing those BSODs, and if it's a hardware failure like bad ram, then that's definately not a good thing
#497 [04:26] <Kharne> Might disappear again
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#499 [04:26] <Kealper> Memtest does just what it's name implies, tests your memory for badness
#500 [04:26] <Morrolan> !wiki Memtest
#501 [04:27] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memtest86
#502 [04:27] <Kharne> I love your techy lingo..
#503 [04:27] <GreyBot> Memtest86 and Memtest86+ are open source memory test software programs designed to test and stress test an x86 architecture computer's random access memory (RAM) for errors. Each tries to verify that the RAM will accept and correctly retain arbitrary patterns of data written to it, and that there are no errors where different bits of memory interact, and there are no
#504 [04:27] <GreyBot> conflicts between memory addresses.
#505 [04:27] <Kealper> it's not lingo, it's an actual program name :P
#506 [04:27] <Kharne> Hmm. Said it installed.
#507 [04:27] <Kharne> Nah, I meant your "Badness"
#508 [04:27] <Kealper> oh xD
#509 [04:27] <Kharne> Oh hey, it's fine now.
#510 [04:27] <Kealper> plays minecraft in firefox and such now?
#511 [04:27] <Kharne> Yup.
#512 [04:27] <Kharne> You're a cool dude. :P
#513 [04:28] <Kealper> \o/
#514 [04:28] <Kealper> now...about those BSODs.....
#515 [04:28] <Kealper> have they ever happened before this that you know of?
#516 [04:28] <Kharne> A couple times in the past week
#517 [04:28] <Kharne> I didn't look at what they were though
#518 [04:28] <Kealper> that's DEFINATELY not good
#519 [04:28] <Kealper> definitely*
#520 [04:28] <Morrolan> I adivse you to backup everything important on your PC. ;)
#521 [04:28] <Kharne> One was when my WoW was frozen.. namely cause Recount is a stupid addon.
#522 [04:29] <Kharne> And the other was directly after I closed WoW
#523 [04:29] <Kharne> also, what's the port for minecraft?
#524 [04:29] <Kealper> yeah, you are going to have to have Memtest running, because all those things that you are saying are when the memory is under heavy use that it's crashing
#525 [04:29] <Kealper> 25565 is default
#526 [04:29] <Kealper> on TCP
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#528 [04:30] <Kealper> anywho, i've got some packet dumps to be sifting though, so....i'll be semi-afk....if i'm needed just say my name
#529 [04:31] <Kharne> Thank you for the help! I'll get the memtest thingy
#530 [04:32] <Lunamon> VoxelHead, cloak
#531 [04:33] <Morrolan> Lunamon: VoxelHead as we know him died some days ago. :(
#532 [04:37] <GLaDOS> XALES
#533 [04:37] <NotiCon> is sleeping i guess?
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#537 [04:41] <Kealper> dang....it's like almost 5am right now....i guess i can stop working with this and go to bed now :/
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#539 [04:44] <Morrolan> Oh, did you already verify wheter the server crashes when it receives a string which is too long?
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#544 [05:46] <World> good mroeing :)
#545 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> cout << "Hello world" << endl;
#546 [05:50] <World> ^ that's why I registered this nick
#547 [05:50] <World> I sometimes greet people who join channels with Hello X!
#548 [05:50] <World> to which they cusomarily respond Hello World!
#549 [05:50] <World> and this is why I'm a nerd
#550 [05:52] <NotiCon> silly reason
#551 [05:53] <NotiCon> printf("Hello world\n");
#552 [05:53] <World> ^ this works too
#553 [05:54] <World> I've used and appreciate both
#554 [05:54] <World> though I grew up with printf myself
#555 [05:57] <NotiCon> printk("Hello world\n"); ?
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#557 [05:57] <RATzombie> hi
#558 [05:57] <RATzombie> i need help
#559 [05:57] <RATzombie> anyone here?
#560 [05:58] <RATzombie> fags
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#562 [05:58] <NotiCon> ol
#563 [05:58] <World> y u need helo
#564 [05:58] <World> owait
#565 [05:59] <Morrolan> Oh, that guy can be soooo happy that I'm no OP.
#566 [05:59] <Vin> judging from his nick i'm gonna assume hes a skript kiddie
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#571 [06:12] <Fetes> can anyone help me out?
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#573 [06:12] <World> maybe...
#574 [06:12] <World> ...
#575 [06:12] <World> unless you leave
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#577 [06:13] <Fetes> yeah sorry,..
#578 [06:13] <Fetes> can someone help me out with minecraft?
#579 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell us what's wrong?
#580 [06:17] <Fetes> I open up minecraft.eXe and it says the following:
#581 [06:18] <Fetes> Bad video card drivers!
#582 [06:18] <Fetes> -----------------------
#583 [06:18] <Fetes> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#584 [06:18] <Fetes> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#585 [06:18] <Fetes> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 --------
#586 [06:18] <Fetes> Generated 8/05/11 8:18 PM
#587 [06:18] <Fetes> Minecraft: Minecraft Alpha v1.1.0
#588 [06:18] <Morrolan> Paste it on pastebin.com
#589 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> It's just another video driver issue
#590 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> Update your video drivers.
#591 [06:18] <Morrolan> Yeah, seems so, but it won't help if he gets muted by AuBot. :D
#592 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Eh, it only does that when AuBot detects a flood.
#593 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> He's fine
#594 [06:19] <Fetes> how do you update them? via download or buy a new one>?
#595 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Download
#596 [06:19] <Fetes> what site, sorry totla n00b?
#597 [06:19] <Fetes> *total
#598 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what video card you have
#599 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> Can you tell me anything about your computer?
#600 [06:20] <Fetes> ok ill get some specs
#601 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> If you don't know it right offhand, just give us this:
#602 [06:22] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#603 [06:22] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#604 [06:22] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#605 [06:23] <Fetes> ok
#606 [06:24] <Fetes> http://pastebin.com/qtvSwakG
#607 [06:24] <Fetes> should help you out
#608 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Thanks, dell computer running an integrated intel graphics card
#609 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> One sec while I pull it up
#610 [06:26] <Fetes> ok
#611 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> Try here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#612 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> Try using the driver update utility
#613 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, look for graphics/video drivers from there
#614 [06:27] <Fetes> ok ill try that now, thanks
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#616 [06:35] <Fetes> it said contact you nearest computer manufacturer for a new graphics card?
#617 [06:35] <Fetes> **latest driver
#618 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#619 [06:36] <Fetes> wait no
#620 [06:36] <Fetes> just download an update
#621 [06:37] <Fetes> in a ZIP
#622 [06:37] <Fetes> and it has some auto config things?
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#643 [08:53] <LuciferZ> Hey guys how's it going?
#644 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> If your question is about HD armor textures, the answer is yes
#645 [08:53] <TheNytangel> wut
#646 [08:54] <LuciferZ> Woooo thanks GV
#647 [08:54] <syddraf> Are you a psychic!? O_O
#648 [08:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#649 [08:54] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, read my mind
#650 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> LuciferZ - Take a look at misa's texture pack as an example
#651 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> LuciferZ - http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=73861
#652 [08:55] <LuciferZ> Haha thanks, I was picking through threads looking for examples like that. Missed Misa's though.
#653 [08:57] <LuciferZ> Okay thanks again GreyVulpine. See ya.
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#656 [08:59] <Oerg866_> A dutchman!
#657 [08:59] <_303> or woman (~Miranda)
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#660 [09:07] <Oerg866_> <_303> or woman (~Miranda)
#661 [09:07] <Oerg866_> thats the client name :)
#662 [09:07] <Oerg866_> miranda IM
#663 [09:08] <_303> indeed
#664 [09:08] <_303> VERSION Miranda IM 0.9.19.0
#665 [09:08] <TheNytangel> YChat FTW
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#675 [10:11] <SPaRT> cheers
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#678 [10:21] <World> good mroeing... again
#679 [10:21] <oldtopman> Whats up?
#680 [10:21] <oldtopman> I've been up for a while now
#681 [10:22] * World is working on an assembly language program
#681 [10:22] <World> or rather trying to work. irc is very distracting
#682 [10:22] <syddraf> What are you working on that requires asm?
#683 [10:25] <World> school proj
#684 [10:25] <World> its a peg solitaire game
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#686 [10:29] <ghostless> Hello all =)
#687 [10:29] <ghostless> Just using mIRC for the first time here can someone confirm they can see me typing please? =)
#688 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#690 [10:31] <ghostless> Thank you very much, I thought I would just pop on to see if i could get some advice about running a little minecraft server just for my lan.
#691 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#692 [10:31] <def> help me please. ERROR "java.net.SocketException: Connection reset by peer: socket write error"
#693 [10:31] <ghostless> Already got it set up and everything it's working perfectly, I'm using Bukkit. but from what i've heard it only supports plugins and not mods?
#694 [10:32] <ghostless> now there are some awesome looking mods out there that i would love to play with. is there a certain server i should be running that you can install mods on as easy as plugins on bukkit?
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#696 [10:33] <def> help me please. ERROR "java.net.SocketException: Connection reset by peer: socket write error"
#697 [10:34] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Looks like Lupus to me.
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#699 [10:35] <ghostless> def, i'm not sure what your problem is but this is apparantly the cause of it: This exception occurs when a client made a request, and before receiving the full response, either of the following happened:
#700 [10:35] <ghostless> 1: client's browser has been closed.
#701 [10:35] <ghostless> 2: client's connection has been disconnected.
#702 [10:35] <ghostless> 3: client presses the stop button.
#703 [10:35] <ghostless> Not sure if that'll help you in anyway I hope it will ^^
#704 [10:36] <ghostless> So does anyone have any info for me? I've been looking around and everyone has such different views on servers it's hard to find one to use.
#705 [10:37] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Info on ?
#706 [10:37] <ghostless> Just looking for some stable server software that supports mods
#707 [10:37] <Morrolan> ghostless: Uhm, you want mods for a server? Use bukkit then.
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#709 [10:37] <ghostless> I am using bukkit, but apparantly it only supports plugins?
#710 [10:37] <Morrolan> Well, plugins = mods in that case.
#711 [10:38] <Morrolan> There is no server which supports modloader or something like Mo' creatures.
#712 [10:38] <ghostless> well i've been looking around and saw some awesome looking mods like the compass mod. i was wondering if there is a way to implement that into my bukkit server?
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#714 [10:38] <ghostless> not compass sorry the minimap mod
#715 [10:38] <_303> well there is SMP modloader, and the SMP gun and planes mod that use it, among others
#716 [10:38] <Morrolan> Ghostless: As soon as a mod requires modifying the client it gets kinda impractical.
#717 [10:38] <_303> and someone is working on making more creatures mod server side too
#718 [10:39] <Morrolan> Oh, good to know.
#719 [10:39] <Morrolan> But apart from that you might want to talk to 303, I'm not really that informed about server mods besides bukkit.
#720 [10:40] <ghostless> modifying the client shouldn't be too bad for me, I don't play with anyone outside of my reach, it's just me and my girlfriend so i can reach her computer to change things very easily
#721 [10:40] <_303> compass mod? what's that
#722 [10:40] <ghostless> minimap i meant ^^
#723 [10:40] <ghostless> it places an awesome looking minimap in the top right of the screen
#724 [10:40] <_303> that one doesn't need to be installed on the server, all clientside
#725 [10:40] <Morrolan> Hmm, for a minimap mod you won't need to modify the server I guess.
#726 [10:41] <ghostless> so i just need to better educate myself from the look of things ^^ I thought the mods worked the same way as the plugins
#727 [10:41] <ghostless> place them in the server folder and load the server again sort of thing
#728 [10:41] <_303> minimap author is lahwran in #risucraft if you want to annoy him
#729 [10:42] <ghostless> has his own mirc channel?
#730 [10:42] <_303> well he has his OWN channel too, #lahwran
#731 [10:43] <ghostless> ahh! i see thank you kindly =) little bit confusing but i'm in there now =) first time using mirc
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#741 [11:28] <TacoBellic> oh hi
#742 [11:28] <TacoBellic> i need help
#743 [11:29] <TacoBellic> halp
#744 [11:29] <Captain-Lightning> Holp?
#745 [11:29] <oldtopman> ??> TacoBellic ask
#746 [11:29] <VoxelHead> TacoBellic: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#747 [11:29] <VoxelHead> TacoBellic: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#748 [11:29] <Captain-Lightning> This is #minecrafthelp, not #minecrafthalp
#749 [11:29] <Captain-Lightning> Perhaps you are looking for a different channel
#750 [11:30] <TacoBellic> when i try to upload my skin i cant
#751 [11:30] <TacoBellic> i press upload and nothing happens but my age refresh
#752 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you?
#753 [11:30] <Captain-Lightning> ?haspaid TacoBellic
#754 [11:30] <TacoBellic> i dont know
#755 [11:30] <Captain-Lightning> Anyone want to fix my typo?
#756 [11:30] <TacoBellic> i bought the game yesterday
#757 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> TacoBellic - Even though you don't get a confirmation page, it still works
#758 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Restart the client after you do it
#759 [11:31] <oldtopman> TacoBellic: What is your in game name?
#760 [11:31] <TacoBellic> the same
#761 [11:31] <TacoBellic> TacoBellic
#762 [11:31] <oldtopman> !paid TacoBellic
#763 [11:31] <Captain-Lightning> There we go.
#764 [11:31] <oldtopman> Captain-Lightning: That is the syntax
#765 [11:32] <TacoBellic> like i said before i paid my game :(
#766 [11:32] <oldtopman> We know, I was just fixing Captain-Lightning's error
#767 [11:33] <oldtopman> But yeah, what GreyVulpine said. There is no confirmation page. Just press e/i to see if you have the skin applied
#768 [11:34] <TacoBellic> letme see
#769 [11:34] <Captain-Lightning> http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=TacoBellic
#770 [11:34] <Captain-Lightning> He doesn't
#771 [11:34] <Captain-Lightning> Erm
#772 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> Um
#773 [11:34] <Captain-Lightning> It doesn't work anymore?
#774 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> The preview page has been down since December
#775 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> The skin upload has still worked since
#776 [11:34] <Captain-Lightning> This is madness!
#777 [11:34] <TacoBellic> yay
#778 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> There's just no confirmation page, or preview
#779 [11:35] <TacoBellic> it appears in my game :)
#780 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it does
#781 [11:35] <TacoBellic> wow guys thank you
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#783 [11:35] <micsen> can i get some help ?
#784 [11:35] <TacoBellic> dont ask for help
#785 [11:35] <TacoBellic> lol
#786 [11:35] <TacoBellic> they telled me that heh
#787 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> micsen - With?
#788 [11:36] <micsen> whit getting minecraft to wor in ubuntu
#789 [11:36] <TacoBellic> bye :D
#790 [11:36] <micsen> *work
#791 [11:36] <TacoBellic> youtube
#792 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> micsen - Can you tell us specifically, what's wrong?
#793 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to launch minecraft? Do you get any error messages?
#794 [11:36] <micsen> ok i will write itt down
#795 [11:37] <micsen> the file /michael/skrivebord/minecraft.jar is not marked as an execytable
#796 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> then chmod +x /michael/skrivebored/minecraft.jar
#797 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> er, sudo chmod +x /michael/skrivebored/minecraft.jar
#798 [11:38] <Captain-Lightning> Open terminal, cd to dir, sudo ch
#799 [11:38] <Captain-Lightning> You know what
#800 [11:38] <Captain-Lightning> I am tired of being ninja'd by you GreyVulpine
#801 [11:38] <Captain-Lightning> DUEL!
#802 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> :)
#803 [11:38] * Captain-Lightning takes off his gloves
#803 [11:38] * GreyVulpine pffts
#803 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Real Ninjas don't give duels.
#804 [11:38] <micsen> ah ty
#805 [11:38] <Captain-Lightning> :(
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#812 [12:05] <xDylan> anyone there?
#813 [12:06] <xDylan> HELLO??
#814 [12:07] <_303> HI!
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#818 [12:14] <xDylan> can you help with my problem?
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#820 [12:16] <Tanjoodo_iPod> What's your problem?
#821 [12:17] <xDylan> on my gift card it says i have purchased minecrat twice, but then says one of them is just a hold. is this going to dissappear or did it charge me twice?
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#824 [12:21] <DennisDeWengel> Can i use Mods . Texture pacs etc etc with mac ?
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#826 [12:25] <seguso> i see no reason why not
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#828 [12:27] <Morrolan> xDylan: Not sure what you mean with "one of them is just a hold", but if you get charged twice you can just ask for a refund, that won't be a problem.
#829 [12:27] <Morrolan> DennisDeWengel: Sure.
#830 [12:31] <Tanjoodo_iPod> xDylan: OR you can give me the gift code :D
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#832 [12:34] <xDylan> how do i get ta refund? how do i get to that on the website?
#833 [12:39] <Morrolan> You'd have to send an e-mail to payment@mojang.com
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#846 [13:09] <Avenkal> Why would minecraft not allow me to play offline even though i have bought it
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#849 [13:13] <NinjaKirby> I asked the same thing when I couldn't play HL2 Episode Two without spending £50 on Mobile Broadband bandwidth, because I couldn't play without patching it. It's fundamentally an offline game for christ sake.
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#851 [13:13] <NinjaKirby> He's as frustrated as me I guess, "ARRGH Fukken' PART JUST /PART!"
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#853 [13:14] <DennisDeWengel> Hi there
#854 [13:14] <NinjaKirby> Eventually when I got it to run as well, it just crashed everyime I jumped to the bottom of the initial Train crash at the start. So I never played it.
#855 [13:15] <NinjaKirby> Hey there Dennis
#856 [13:15] <DennisDeWengel> How can i Instal texture pacs and modds for mac ? i put the Texture pac of jolicraft in the right folder but it doesnt work
#857 [13:15] * NinjaKirby runs away! (as NinjaKirby doesn't know)
#857 [13:15] <DennisDeWengel> hmm
#858 [13:16] <DennisDeWengel> Rather frustrating
#859 [13:16] <DennisDeWengel> i know some people did
#860 [13:16] <NinjaKirby> Bunch of smart people in here though, when they appear they'll be able to speak
#861 [13:16] <DennisDeWengel> uhu
#862 [13:17] <NinjaKirby> Without being (too) biased, DopeGhoti is my favourite fountain of knowledge here, pray he comes to XD
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#866 [13:25] <Morrolan> DennisDeWengel: Texturepacks? Put them into the Texturepack folder, select them in the ingame menu, done.
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#868 [13:27] <budRich> hello I just made a portal of obsidian. I lit it and it becomes cool annd strange sound is coming from in. But I doesn't get teleportet...
#869 [13:28] * NinjaKirby giggles
#869 [13:29] <NinjaKirby> You on a server budRich? Nether isn't accessible on Servers yet
#870 [13:29] <budRich> aha. ok
#871 [13:29] <NinjaKirby> Although I think the last blog entry said it's on it's way :)
#872 [13:29] <Morrolan> Yep.
#873 [13:29] <Morrolan> Should work with 1.6 in SMP as well. Right now it's single palyer only though.
#874 [13:29] <Morrolan> player*
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#876 [13:31] <Morrolan> Hmm, I guess http://www.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp has some sort of DDOS protection which only allows you to query it every 10 seconds or so? Can anyone confirm?
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#879 [13:34] <NinjaKirby> Why is it when I click that link Morrolan, do I get an IP Address unresolved O_o
#880 [13:34] <NinjaKirby> Unless it's because I'm not logged into the website
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#882 [13:35] <NinjaKirby> Nope, either way it's buggered, intreaguing
#883 [13:35] <Morrolan> IP unresolved? Well, you should get a Bad login message, because you'd need to pass additonal parameters, but IP unresolved?
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#885 [13:35] <Morrolan> Cause this is the script the client uses for the name verification.
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#887 [13:37] <NinjaKirby> Ah, maybe my terminology or usage is bad, the website address turns into an IP Address for some reason. But I do get Bad Login message.
#888 [13:38] <Morrolan> Yeah, then everything is as it ought to be. :)
#889 [13:38] <DennisDeWengel> Morrolan i did but ingame i cant sellect it
#890 [13:38] <Morrolan> DennisDeWengel: So, it doesn't appear in the list?
#891 [13:39] <DennisDeWengel> nope
#892 [13:39] <Morrolan> And you did leave it as a .zip folder? You don't need to unzip it.
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#894 [13:39] <DennisDeWengel> i unzipped it
#895 [13:39] <Morrolan> That's your problem then. :)
#896 [13:39] <DennisDeWengel> Srsly ? xD
#897 [13:40] <DennisDeWengel> lol no need to unzip xD :P
#898 [13:40] <Morrolan> Yep.
#899 [13:40] <Morrolan> It HAS to stay a zip file.
#900 [13:40] <DennisDeWengel> and how about mods ?
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#902 [13:40] <Morrolan> Mods, hmm, you'll have to use some software like winrar or whatever to put the modified class files into the .jar.
#903 [13:41] <DennisDeWengel> ( It worked got texture pack working )
#904 [13:41] <Morrolan> Cause a .jar file is nothing more than an archive.
#905 [13:41] <Morrolan> Ah, nice.
#906 [13:41] <DennisDeWengel> How to you mean
#907 [13:41] <DennisDeWengel> i got a mod
#908 [13:41] <DennisDeWengel> if i unzip i get loads of .jar files
#909 [13:41] <Morrolan> Hmm, which mod is it?
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#911 [13:41] <stomper> I have a MAC and my esc key is not working. Help?
#912 [13:42] <Morrolan> stomper: Uuh, buy a new keyboard?
#913 [13:42] <Morrolan> Or is it only in Minecraft?
#914 [13:42] <stomper> only minecraft
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#916 [13:42] <Morrolan> ?? phantominput
#917 [13:42] <VoxelHead> phantominput: If you installed some utility from Comcast, and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, emancipate it.
#918 [13:42] <Morrolan> Could it be this?
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#920 [13:42] <stomper> nope
#921 [13:42] <DennisDeWengel> stomper i use mac aswell dont have anny problem
#922 [13:42] <stomper> just esc
#923 [13:42] <Kristina> Hey guys
#924 [13:42] <Morrolan> Hmm, that's strange then, never seen this before stomper.
#925 [13:42] <Kristina> I'm having an issue with the esc key on my mac
#926 [13:42] <Morrolan> Hey Kristina.
#927 [13:42] <Morrolan> Wait, that's two of you then.
#928 [13:42] <Kristina> I'm not the only one?
#929 [13:43] <Morrolan> Yep, stomper just joined with the same issue.
#930 [13:43] <syddraf> stomper as well
#931 [13:43] <Kristina> Lol well that makes me feel better in a way
#932 [13:43] <Morrolan> Funny, since I haven't seen this before, and now suddendly two in a row.
#933 [13:43] <Kristina> Hm..
#934 [13:43] <Morrolan> Was there any update or something?
#935 [13:43] <Kristina> Weird O.o
#936 [13:43] <stomper> i can't play single player since i can't play
#937 [13:43] <Kristina> Well when I signed on yesterday there was, but I was not on for awhile so idk.
#938 [13:44] <Morrolan> Nah, I mean for your Mac.
#939 [13:44] <DennisDeWengel> morrolan so if i downlaoded a mod what should i do next to make it work on mac ?
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#941 [13:44] <Kristina> uh, not that I know of
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#943 [13:44] <Morrolan> DennisDeWengel: It really depends. There are some mods which have files you need to throw into the .jar , and there are mods who have installers.
#944 [13:44] <Kristina> I uninstalled & reinstalled too, didn't work
#945 [13:44] <Morrolan> Kristina / stomper: Does anyone of you have an external keyboard to try it with?
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#947 [13:45] <Kristina> Idk if macs have external keyboards?
#948 [13:45] <Morrolan> Hmm? Well, you could just connect any external keyboard if you had one I guess. Don't own a mac though, so don't know.
#949 [13:45] <Kristina> Oh lol
#950 [13:45] <Kristina> I thought you meant internal sorry
#951 [13:46] <Kristina> Well I tried my esc key on WoW and other games, and it worked
#952 [13:46] <Morrolan> Strange.
#953 [13:46] <Kristina> so I think it's just minecraft
#954 [13:46] <Morrolan> Yea. :/
#955 [13:46] <Kristina> :(
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#957 [13:46] <Kristina> Stinks
#958 [13:46] <Morrolan> Never seen that before, might want to hang around a bit, there are mac guys in here as well, they might be able to help you.
#959 [13:46] <Kristina> Did an update like change the control for the menu?
#960 [13:47] <Morrolan> Nope.
#961 [13:47] <Kristina> Okay, thank you.
#962 [13:47] <Morrolan> DennisDeWengel: Now as I said, it depends on the mod you want to install, which is it?
#963 [13:49] <KRD> Hey there. Is this the place to ask for help regarding the so called MCPatcher?
#964 [13:49] <KRD> Nothing detailed, I just can't figure out which version is the latest and why the one I tried isn't working.
#965 [13:50] <Morrolan> KRD: MCPatcher?
#966 [13:50] <DennisDeWengel> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=80246
#967 [13:50] <DennisDeWengel> the last mod
#968 [13:50] <DennisDeWengel> Biospherse
#969 [13:50] <KRD> This thing: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=252531
#970 [13:50] <ellisgeek> i haven't tried biosphere
#971 [13:51] <ellisgeek> liiks interesting
#972 [13:51] <Morrolan> KRD: Ah, the HD texture thingy. Might want to ask in #risucraft for this.
#973 [13:51] <ellisgeek> looks*
#974 [13:51] <KRD> Oh, okay.
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#976 [13:52] <ellisgeek> and i have always gotten a black screen when i used mods that modify the terrain generator.
#977 [13:52] <_303> DennisDeWengel: #risucraft for mod support. biosphere author is there (risugami)
#978 [13:52] <ellisgeek> for example ssp virsion of the Biome terain mod always crashed my minecraft.
#979 [13:53] <_303> is that mod even updated for 1.5_01 ?
#980 [13:53] <ellisgeek> Biome mod
#981 [13:53] <ellisgeek> ?
#982 [13:53] <Morrolan> Yeah, what 303 said. Basically you just need to open minecraft.jar in a software like winrar or 7zip and throw the downloaded files in there.
#983 [13:53] <_303> ellisgeek: the biome terrain mod
#984 [13:53] <ellisgeek> havant used it lately
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#986 [13:54] <ellisgeek> i think i tried it around beta 2
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#988 [13:54] <Mods> hey
#989 [13:54] <Mods> Whow ants to help me?
#990 [13:54] <ellisgeek> i can try
#991 [13:54] <Mods> Who wants to help me?
#992 [13:54] <Morrolan> Depends, what dod you need. ;)
#993 [13:54] <Morrolan> do*
#994 [13:55] <Mods> I'm new to the whole mincraft screne, how do I install a custom map so i can play it?
#995 [13:55] <mib_dh6id9> Hey umm, for some reason whenever i open my minecraft from my computer it opens up with this:Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#996 [13:55] <Morrolan> Mib: Well, update your video card driver I guess?
#997 [13:55] <Mods> I can't play any of custom maps or figure out how to work them
#998 [13:55] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Then update your video card drivers
#999 [13:55] <Morrolan> Mods: Did you already download the map?
#1000 [13:55] <ellisgeek> are you on mac pc or linux
#1001 [13:56] <Morrolan> If yes, then yea, on what OS are you?
#1002 [13:56] <ellisgeek> mods
#1003 [13:56] <Mods> I think I did
#1004 [13:56] <Mods> ye
#1005 [13:56] <mib_dh6id9> Well I'm not really sure what it means by that
#1006 [13:56] <Morrolan> Ok, Windows, mac, Linux?
#1007 [13:56] <Mods> can someone help me over team veiwier?
#1008 [13:56] <Mods> Windows
#1009 [13:56] <Morrolan> Mods: It's really easy.
#1010 [13:56] <ellisgeek> ya
#1011 [13:56] <Mods> If you say so.
#1012 [13:56] <Morrolan> ?? win/.minecraft
#1013 [13:56] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#1014 [13:56] <ellisgeek> we will teach you to fish not do it for u
#1015 [13:57] <Mods> Okay.
#1016 [13:57] <ellisgeek> :D
#1017 [13:57] <Mods> But if I see you doing it I would learn just saying :D
#1018 [13:57] <Morrolan> In this .minecraft folder is a folder called "saves", put the downloaded world in there.
#1019 [13:57] <Mods> I can't find my minecraft folder
#1020 [13:57] <Mods> my origianl one lol
#1021 [13:57] <Tanjoodo_iPod> %appdata%
#1022 [13:57] <Morrolan> Yea, look what Voxelhead said.
#1023 [13:57] <Morrolan> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#1024 [13:58] <Mods> Wtf is WIN+R?
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#1026 [13:58] <Morrolan> The windows key and R?
#1027 [13:58] <ellisgeek> better yet press CTRL +R type "%appdata%/.minecraft/saves" in the box and drag the "EXTRACTED" world in there
#1028 [13:58] <Morrolan> Like, the one with the little flag, lower left?
#1029 [13:58] <ellisgeek> oops WIN + R
#1030 [13:58] <Mods> Wait hold on.
#1031 [13:58] <Mods> I can't find my minecraft folder
#1032 [13:58] <Mods> I think thats a problem.
#1033 [13:59] <ellisgeek> no
#1034 [13:59] <ellisgeek> you arent showing hidden files
#1035 [13:59] <ellisgeek> press WIN +R type "%appdata%/.minecraft/saves" in the box and drag the "EXTRACTED" world in there
#1036 [13:59] <Kristina> Did any other Mac users bring up the esc issue other than stomper?
#1037 [13:59] <Morrolan> Yeah, good idea, saves us from the hassle of unhiding hidden folders.
#1038 [14:00] <ellisgeek> "%appdata%/.minecraft/saves"
#1039 [14:00] <Mods> I dont have a WIN key...
#1040 [14:00] <ellisgeek> ok
#1041 [14:00] <ellisgeek> press start
#1042 [14:00] <Mods> k
#1043 [14:00] <ellisgeek> click on run
#1044 [14:00] <Mods> k
#1045 [14:00] <ellisgeek> then do as above without the WIN + R part
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#1047 [14:01] <Mods> K i'm in the folder
#1048 [14:01] <ellisgeek> also what format is the map in does it have a region folder
#1049 [14:01] <Morrolan> Mods: For future reference, your win key looks like this: http://cope-et-al.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/windows_key.jpg
#1050 [14:01] <ellisgeek> or a lot of .dat files
#1051 [14:01] <Mods> Thats the start key silly!
#1052 [14:01] <Morrolan> Sigh.
#1053 [14:02] <Morrolan> Start key = Win key ;)
#1054 [14:02] <Morrolan> Anyway. ;)
#1055 [14:02] <syddraf> = Super Key
#1056 [14:02] * ellisgeek face palms
#1056 [14:02] <Mods> It doesn't make me win anything why the Win key :P
#1057 [14:02] <Morrolan> Win(dows) :D
#1058 [14:02] <Mods> oh,....
#1059 [14:02] <Morrolan> Hehe. :F
#1060 [14:02] <Mods> Face palms.
#1061 [14:02] <Morrolan> :D*
#1062 [14:02] <budRich> I made a boat on afriends server. And when I tried it, the game freaked out. I finally got out of the boat. But the game hangs and give me the message: "end of stream"
#1063 [14:02] <Mods> :p
#1064 [14:02] * ellisgeek face palms
#1064 [14:02] <Mods> Okay now what
#1065 [14:03] <Mods> Im in the folder callled .minecraft
#1066 [14:03] <Morrolan> budRich: Hmm, boats ARE kinda fucked up, but they shouldn't crash your client.
#1067 [14:03] <Morrolan> Mods: Now open the "saves" folder.
#1068 [14:03] <ellisgeek> drag the map into the saves folder
#1069 [14:03] <Morrolan> And put the downloaded map in there
#1070 [14:03] <ellisgeek> ya ^
#1071 [14:03] <Mods> It was like
#1072 [14:03] <Mods> 100 folders.
#1073 [14:04] <Mods> Called A A1 B B 1
#1074 [14:04] <ellisgeek> ok it is a old style map and that is ok
#1075 [14:04] <ellisgeek> the game will convert the map
#1076 [14:04] <ellisgeek> when you try to play it
#1077 [14:04] <Mods> oh.
#1078 [14:04] <Mods> Cool thanks.
#1079 [14:04] <Mods> Can I add you on msn?
#1080 [14:04] <ellisgeek> pn
#1081 [14:04] <ellisgeek> np
#1082 [14:04] <Mods> Nope it's not there
#1083 [14:04] <Mods> i ran minecraft
#1084 [14:04] <Mods> and it's not there
#1085 [14:04] <Morrolan> Well, you did put them in there in a common folder though?
#1086 [14:05] <Morrolan> Not directly into saves?
#1087 [14:05] <Mods> Uhh yah?
#1088 [14:05] <Mods> No..
#1089 [14:05] <Mods> I put them direclty into saves
#1090 [14:05] <Morrolan> They have to be in a folder of their own, so it's like saves -> my downloaded world -> all these little folders
#1091 [14:05] <Mods> Okay, now i'm really cofnsued
#1092 [14:05] <Mods> Can you team view me
#1093 [14:06] <ellisgeek> dont drag the 100+ floders in put them in a folder with their world.dat file no
#1094 [14:06] <ellisgeek> lets start over
#1095 [14:07] <ellisgeek> do you have the archive that has the map?
#1096 [14:07] <ellisgeek> mods
#1097 [14:07] <Mods> Im in the saves folder
#1098 [14:07] <Mods> and i have 100 folders in tehere
#1099 [14:07] <Mods> Now what do I do
#1100 [14:07] <ellisgeek> remove the folders with 2 letter name
#1101 [14:07] <KRD> [19:59:30] <Kristina> Did any other Mac users bring up the esc issue other than stomper?
#1102 [14:07] <KRD> I stumbled upon this on the forum: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=287589
#1103 [14:07] <ellisgeek> names
#1104 [14:07] <Mods> there all 2 letter
#1105 [14:08] <ellisgeek> ya
#1106 [14:08] <Mods> 1 or 2 letters
#1107 [14:08] <Mods> or numbers
#1108 [14:08] <ellisgeek> here lets do this in a private chat
#1109 [14:08] <ellisgeek> less distraction
#1110 [14:08] <Mods> kk
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#1116 [14:22] <KRD> [19:50:45] <Morrolan> KRD: Ah, the HD texture thingy. Might want to ask in #risucraft for this.
#1117 [14:23] <KRD> They've proven useless.
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#1120 [14:23] <Morrolan> KRD: ^^
#1121 [14:23] <Morrolan> You're not the first to say that.
#1122 [14:23] <Morrolan> Oh well, I have absolutely no experience with this, but what do you need?
#1123 [14:23] <KRD> Heh.
#1124 [14:24] <KRD> Well, I'm trying to keep water and lava from animating to hopefully gain some performance.
#1125 [14:24] <Morrolan> Hmm, already asked on the forum thread?
#1126 [14:24] <KRD> But even when I'm using the patcher with the default texture pack, fire blocks keep insultung me.
#1127 [14:24] <KRD> That's the thing, I'd first like to figure out which forum thread to ask in.
#1128 [14:25] <ellisgeek> try the optimine mod
#1129 [14:25] <ellisgeek> gave me a bit of a fps boost
#1130 [14:26] <Mods> Ellis
#1131 [14:26] <Mods> How would I play this map co op?
#1132 [14:26] <KRD> I'll give that a try, thanks.
#1133 [14:26] <Morrolan> KRD: Hmm, IIRC xau isn't updating it anymore? So you'll have to ask in the thread from where you have the updated version
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#1135 [14:28] <KRD> Morrolan: I think I'll just go with the Optimine mod for starters and give the patcher maintainer some more time to get their shit together.
#1136 [14:29] <KRD> Maintainers. Whatever.
#1137 [14:29] <Morrolan> Ok.
#1138 [14:29] <KRD> As far as I can tell, it's Kahr who's watching over it now.
#1139 [14:36] <Mods> hey guys.
#1140 [14:36] <Mods> How do you get into a minecraft cart...
#1141 [14:36] <Mods> Can anyone tell me pelase
#1142 [14:38] * Kealper rawrs
#1142 [14:38] <Kealper> Mods: just right click the cart you want to get in to
#1143 [14:39] <Mods> how do I go forward then
#1144 [14:39] <Mods> aww scre itw!
#1145 [14:39] <Kealper> .....
#1146 [14:39] <Morrolan> He isn't happy it seems. :p
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#1148 [14:39] <syddraf> He has been my entertainment for the day.
#1149 [14:39] <Kealper> so...apparently i'm supposed to answer him within 3 seconds or he loses interest
#1150 [14:39] <Morrolan> Btw Kealper, ever saw people on macs having issues with their esc- key not working?
#1151 [14:40] <Kealper> kids these days ._.
#1152 [14:40] <Kealper> Morrolan: can't say i hae
#1153 [14:40] <Kealper> have*
#1154 [14:40] <syddraf> Although, just for interest. Is there a way to make the carts go without using a complicated launching system like my friend has?
#1155 [14:40] <Morrolan> Hmm, strange. I haven't seen this issue before either.
#1156 [14:40] <Kealper> syddraf: yes
#1157 [14:41] <Morrolan> But half an hour ago two guys joined straight after each other, complaining that their esc key isn't working.
#1158 [14:41] <Morrolan> syddraf: Booster rails?
#1159 [14:41] <Morrolan> If you have the metal, that is. ;)
#1160 [14:41] <Kealper> Morrolan: my guess is something was screwy with their java
#1161 [14:41] <syddraf> Morrolan: He has some complicated thing involving a second adjacent minecart, a door, and a switch.
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#1163 [14:42] <Morrolan> Yeah, that looks like a "classic" booster. The last update introduced booster arils though.
#1164 [14:42] <Morrolan> rails*
#1165 [14:42] <Kealper> syddraf: what's your ingame name? i'll whitelist you on my server and you can come in it so i can show you a painfully simple booster that starts the cart going
#1166 [14:42] <Morrolan> Kealper: Yea, maybe.
#1167 [14:43] <syddraf> syddrafcray
#1168 [14:43] <Kealper> address is mc.kealper.com
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#1171 [14:48] <nvm> hey guys, getting access violations on a friend's computer when trying to join, google says it might be a registry error. question: how does one erase minecraft from the registry
#1172 [14:48] <LordTrevor> Minecraft is java based
#1173 [14:49] <LordTrevor> There is nothing in the registry
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#1177 [14:54] <Kristina> Hey did anyone figure out the Mac esc key issue?
#1178 [14:55] <Kealper> Kristina: it's probably something with your install of Java, which is kind of unfortunate because that can't be fixed
#1179 [14:55] <Morrolan> Kristina: Kealper thought it could be Java being messed up somehow.
#1180 [14:55] <KRD> This thread suggests it isn't a new issue: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=287589
#1181 [14:55] <Kristina> Damn
#1182 [14:56] <Kristina> Hm.. thank you
#1183 [14:56] <Kristina> hopefully it gets fixed
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#1186 [15:06] <KidHoe> anyone know some i.p's for minecraft classic multiplayer servers?
#1187 [15:06] <Sooi11> anyone that can help me?
#1188 [15:06] <Sooi11> i port forwarded my ip and my server doesnt wrok
#1189 [15:06] <Sooi11> *work
#1190 [15:07] <Morrolan> Kidhoe: http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#1191 [15:08] <Morrolan> There's your list of every public classic server.
#1192 [15:08] <Morrolan> Sooi11: Oh, nvm
#1193 [15:08] <KidHoe> But no ips.
#1194 [15:08] <Morrolan> You don't need IP's for classic, just click on these names.
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#1196 [15:09] <Morrolan> KidHoe: Well, you need to be logged in for it to work, might be that it's because of this.
#1197 [15:10] <Morrolan> Kealper: Does http://www.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp have some sort of DDOS protection which only allows you to verify your name with it every x seconds?
#1198 [15:10] <Kealper> idk, it might
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#1200 [15:10] <Kealper> still working on doing a valid handshake? lol
#1201 [15:10] <Morrolan> Ok, that might explain why I'm getting bad login sometimes while debugging.
#1202 [15:10] <Morrolan> Nope, works now. .)
#1203 [15:10] <Kealper> lol
#1204 [15:10] <Morrolan> Handshake, Verification and LoginRequest work. :p
#1205 [15:11] <Kealper> i went the lazy route and just messed around with it when my server was on offline mode
#1206 [15:12] <Morrolan> Oh well, the authentication was actually the easiest part, once I found out that you had to pass the username case sensitive...
#1207 [15:12] <Morrolan> Anyway, it's a nice exercise.. )
#1208 [15:12] <Morrolan> :)*
#1209 [15:12] <Kealper> lol
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#1212 [15:27] <LordTrevor> Actually for once I have a problem.
#1213 [15:28] <LordTrevor> On my good computer I can't move stuff in my inventory unless I'm in full screen.
#1214 [15:29] <Morrolan> Happens if you switch from fullscreen back to windowed mode.
#1215 [15:30] <LordTrevor> Nope.
#1216 [15:30] <Morrolan> Or does it happen even if you never were in fullscreen?
#1217 [15:30] <LordTrevor> Already tried restarting
#1218 [15:30] <Morrolan> Oh. :/
#1219 [15:30] <LordTrevor> This^
#1220 [15:32] <LordTrevor> Every time I do have a problem no one has any idea ho to fix it :(
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#1222 [15:35] <TheNytangel> Ok, so fire works in the town next to spawn, but not really far away from spawn.
#1223 [15:35] <TheNytangel> Why?
#1224 [15:38] <LordTrevor> How far?
#1225 [15:38] <LordTrevor> Coords
#1226 [15:38] <Kealper> ok now that i'm past my junction to get on the really REALLY long railway....i can talk lol
#1227 [15:38] <TheNytangel> >.>
#1228 [15:39] <LordTrevor> In extreme distances things start getting weird
#1229 [15:39] <Kealper> but yeah...what is happening? fire isn't burning?
#1230 [15:39] <TheNytangel> I dun wanna give coord
#1231 [15:39] <LordTrevor> Give me an about
#1232 [15:39] <LordTrevor> Over 500k?
#1233 [15:40] <TheNytangel> Gosh no
#1234 [15:40] <TheNytangel> It's just a little ways past my dam
#1235 [15:40] <LordTrevor> I don't know then
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#1237 [15:41] <Kealper> any mods?
#1238 [15:41] <TheNytangel> Yeah, but why would it work near spawn, but not farther away from it?
#1239 [15:42] <Kealper> what mods?
#1240 [15:42] <Kealper> any block protection ones?
#1241 [15:42] <TheNytangel> WorldGuard
#1242 [15:42] <TheNytangel> Fire is allowed with that, though
#1243 [15:42] <Kealper> then iono
#1244 [15:42] <TheNytangel> iZone, but even when I removed that, still didn't work
#1245 [15:42] <Morrolan> What about WorldGuard protection zones?
#1246 [15:43] <TheNytangel> ?
#1247 [15:43] <Morrolan> Ah, nevermind, you were using iZone.
#1248 [15:43] <TheNytangel> Haven't used iZone yet, accept to clear spaces
#1249 [15:46] <Kealper> does anyone else just absolutely hate HydraIRC's default quit messages?
#1250 [15:50] <Morrolan> Well, it's the same as with most clients, isn't it?
#1251 [15:51] <Morrolan> They all advertise for themselves.
#1252 [15:51] <AndrewPH> No they don't...
#1253 [15:51] <AndrewPH> Very few do.
#1254 [15:51] <Kealper> most just go like "DerpIRC http://derpirc.com" but HydraIRC's quit messages try to make it out to be something huge and great and viral...and....pompous
#1255 [15:52] <Kealper> speaking of which
#1256 [15:52] <Morrolan> Uh, I guess you can look at it like that.
#1257 [15:52] <Kealper> i'm totally going to make an irc client called DerpIRC
#1258 [15:52] <Morrolan> It'll have to be pretty good to convice me to switch from HydraIRC though. :p
#1259 [15:53] <LordTrevor> Kealper: I will use this
#1260 [15:53] <LordTrevor> Unless it sucks
#1261 [15:53] <Kealper> the whole point of it would be to suck lol
#1262 [15:53] <Morrolan> Make it spit out binary numbers...
#1263 [15:53] <Kealper> lol
#1264 [15:54] * Kealper looks around for one of his failed IRC clients to rename
#1264 [15:55] <Kealper> hmm.....date modified... 2009....that's nice and dead
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#1266 [15:59] <oddvin1> hi
#1267 [15:59] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Feed is empty!
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#1269 [16:00] <oddvin1> hello !
#1270 [16:00] <Derp_532> hmm....
#1271 [16:00] <Morrolan> Hey dovin
#1272 [16:00] <Morrolan> oddvin*
#1273 [16:00] <syddraf> Kealper, you make DerpIRC and I will test it.
#1274 [16:00] <Kealper> what do you think that was? lol
#1275 [16:00] <Morrolan> Kealper: I'm actually getting closer, Keep alive packets work now. XD
#1276 [16:01] <Kealper> Morrolan: i've noticed that the client sends 0x0A01 a LOT...but i've found just sending 0x00 every second or so keeps it connected
#1277 [16:01] <oddvin1> i have the problem minecraft not answare after 10 min of playing
#1278 [16:02] <oddvin1> can i fix it ?
#1279 [16:03] <Morrolan> Kealper: Hmm, good to know.
#1280 [16:03] <Morrolan> oddvin: How much RAM does your PC have?
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#1282 [16:03] <oddvin1> 4 gb
#1283 [16:03] <Morrolan> Ok, that's not the cause then.
#1284 [16:04] <Derp_729> this is so bad with this Aero Glass effect on lol
#1285 [16:04] <Morrolan> Oddvin: So it just doesn't respond anymore, no error, nothing?
#1286 [16:05] <oddvin1> it doesn't respond
#1287 [16:05] <oddvin1> i dont get a error
#1288 [16:06] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/iz9lB.png <-- you can never have too much Aero Glass effect on DerpIRC! \o/
#1289 [16:07] <Kealper> (no i didn't make that entire thing THAT fast....it was a support irc client i was working on a few years back and i just renamed it and put on that gaudy glass effect :P)
#1290 [16:09] * AG_Scott stabs Kealper in the face.
#1290 [16:09] <oddvin1> how i stop my minecraft server lagging i have added 2gb ram to the srver and it still lagging
#1291 [16:10] <Kealper> AG_Scott: you know you love that horrid glass effect lol
#1292 [16:10] <NotiCon> did you allocate those rams to the minecraft aswell?
#1293 [16:10] <AG_Scott> My eyes don't.
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#1295 [16:10] <oddvin1> yes
#1296 [16:11] * Kealper takes off the glass effect and fixes the userlist
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#1297 [16:14] <Kealper> ugh, the entirety of this code sucks so bad...if i had a time machine i'd use it to go back in time and slap myself for writing something THIS bad ._.
#1298 [16:14] * Kealper abandons that project for a second time
#1298 [16:16] <Captain-Lightning> ¬_¬
#1299 [16:17] <Kristina> Stupid escape key still wont work
#1300 [16:18] <Captain-Lightning> Kealper, are you using the windows API?
#1301 [16:18] <Captain-Lightning> For the window itself?
#1302 [16:24] * TheNytangel does the command /lightning Captain-Lightning
#1302 [16:24] * Captain-Lightning gains +100 health
#1302 [16:25] <Kealper> ok back
#1303 [16:25] <Kealper> Captain-Lightning: yeah that was just an API call though dwmapi.dll
#1304 [16:26] <Captain-Lightning> QT > All others
#1305 [16:26] <Kealper> lol
#1306 [16:27] <Kealper> it actually kinda funny, because in that call you supply the window handle you want to put the effect on...
#1307 [16:27] <Kealper> so you can glass any window you like
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#1309 [16:30] <TheNytangel> Kealper
#1310 [16:31] <Kealper> TheNytangel:
#1311 [16:31] <TheNytangel> No.
#1312 [16:31] <Kealper> yes.
#1313 [16:31] <TheNytangel> No.
#1314 [16:31] <TheNytangel> Maybe. But. No.
#1315 [16:31] <Kealper> combobreaker.
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#1320 [16:45] <Kealper> mixing breaded fish into this nacho cheese was....
#1321 [16:45] <Kealper> well it wasn
#1322 [16:45] <Kealper> wasn't the best idea
#1323 [16:46] <lemon-rev> hm, fish and cheese hm, you are a strange one lol
#1324 [16:46] <Kealper> not just that, i'm eating the fishcheese with nacho chips.....
#1325 [16:46] <Kealper> it's...interesing..lol
#1326 [16:46] <lemon-rev> hahahahahah
#1327 [16:47] <lemon-rev> well tell us the results , im almost off for work so yea np :)
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#1329 [16:47] <lemon-rev> enjoy
#1330 [16:47] <Kealper> i mean...it's not bad, it tastes ok, but it's one hell of a weird flavor
#1331 [16:47] <lemon-rev> hm, so long as you can keep eating it, it must be eatable :)
#1332 [16:48] <Kealper> i'm almost done with it lol
#1333 [16:48] <lemon-rev> doh!!!
#1334 [16:48] <lemon-rev> i bet the after tast will be ever last ing :P
#1335 [16:48] <Kealper> probably lol
#1336 [16:48] <lemon-rev> ok later :P
#1337 [16:49] * Kealper waves _o/
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#1340 [16:59] <Keltinray> Kealper, what kind of breaded fish?
#1341 [16:59] <Kealper> hell if i know, it's leftovers from a bar that said "breaded fish"
#1342 [17:00] <Keltinray> Fish fingers works well when fried on a pan, and then about a minute before it's done, you toss a couple of slices of cheese on top.
#1343 [17:00] <Keltinray> Serve with mashed potatoes and a decent remoulade
#1344 [17:00] <Kealper> yeah, this didn't taste bad, but it was interesting eating it in nachos...lol
#1345 [17:00] <Keltinray> Suddenly, fish fingers become edible :p
#1346 [17:00] <Keltinray> Well, yeah, nachos... not so sure about those
#1347 [17:00] <Keltinray> could work
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#1350 [17:13] <syddraf> Does anyone know of a way to get boats to not break when something looks at them funny?
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#1352 [17:13] <Kealper> cloth padding on shores
#1353 [17:13] <syddraf> O_O
#1354 [17:13] <syddraf> GENIUS
#1355 [17:13] <syddraf> I'm trying to build an aqueduct-based transport system
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#1357 [17:15] <syddraf> Is string the only way to build a cloth block?
#1358 [17:16] <relsqui> you can cut them off sheep
#1359 [17:20] <SlashLife> http://img217.imageshack.us/g/20110508230600.png/ =)
#1360 [17:20] <Kealper> :o
#1361 [17:24] <xales> Kealper: LOL
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#1363 [17:30] <SlashLife> syddraf: I've been told that soul sand is supposedly the best material for docks.
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#1372 [17:47] <Rebel> Yo!
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#1383 [18:43] <Blockblender> Have U gotten to the Minecraft help channel? :S
#1384 [18:43] <Blockblender> Anyone here?
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#1387 [18:47] <Ixam> Hello, is this the minecraft help irc?
#1388 [18:48] <Blockblender> Think so but no one answers
#1389 [18:48] <Ixam> >><
#1390 [18:48] <Blockblender> mhm
#1391 [18:49] <Blockblender> got a HUGE explotion I wana erase from me server..
#1392 [18:49] <Blockblender> Or wana save me house.. no one here it seems
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#1394 [18:50] <Ixam> I got an issue where anything that I open only shows the general inventory slot. I have has the server restarted. My character deleted, tested to see if it worked (it didn't). Deleted my .minecraft folder and reinstalled and it still has the same bug. I don't understand how this is still a problem after everything i've done..
#1395 [18:54] <Blockblender> hmm tryed deleting the minecraft folder?
#1396 [18:54] <Blockblender> the entire thingy
#1397 [18:54] <Blockblender> just save the saves
#1398 [18:55] <Blockblender> ???
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#1400 [18:58] <coz> !check
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#1402 [19:00] <Black_Metal_Fan_666> stfu bot
#1403 [19:03] <Lunamon> wat
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#1406 [19:03] <xales> Derp.
#1407 [19:03] <LordTrevor> Herpa
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#1417 [20:39] <Vector> Voxel, make me a sandwich
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#1419 [20:43] <Vector> VOXEL!
#1420 [20:43] <Vector> ARE YOU ALIVE
#1421 [20:57] * GreyVulpine pokes xales
#1421 [20:57] <xales> Hi
#1422 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Hey, you busy?
#1423 [20:58] <xales> Not particularly
#1424 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> I'm in a little need of rescue in Dope's server
#1425 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Idled here, and there's freakin spiders everywhere
#1426 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> I can't get out
#1427 [20:59] <xales> Sure, I'll see what I can do
#1428 [20:59] <xales> GreyVulpine: Where are you?
#1429 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Near my automated farm
#1430 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> I built a TALL cactus farm nearby
#1431 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> There's a small storage shed attached to that cactus farm
#1432 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> I'm inside
#1433 [21:00] <xales> I'm on my way, it'll be a minute though
#1434 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> No rush
#1435 [21:00] <xales> I was at Vortex Tower ._.
#1436 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, I should've brought more supplies
#1437 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Only have a bow with about a dozen arrows.
#1438 [21:04] <syddraf> Hey guys. I'm getting a "Failed to login: Bad login" error when I attempt to log into my server. What would be causing this?
#1439 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Restart/reinstall your client?
#1440 [21:06] <syddraf> Tried restarting. I'll try reinstalling it.
#1441 [21:08] <syddraf> Magically started working.
#1442 [21:08] <syddraf> Thanks.
#1443 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#1444 [21:10] <xales> GreyVulpine: I'm here. And that's one large farm
#1445 [21:13] <xales> GreyVulpine: Spiders are dead
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#1447 [21:13] <xales> That's an impressive farm...I gave you some arrows, too
#1448 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Hey thanks
#1449 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> I gotta ferry back a chest and a half of cactus back to the ECC
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#1457 [22:35] <|Matt|> Just wondering, would anyone know why my credit card keeps getting declined when trying to buy the game? It keeps declining it. Its a prepaid credit card with 25$ on it.
#1458 [22:35] <Kealper> that's why
#1459 [22:35] <xales> ?? prepaid
#1460 [22:35] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#1461 [22:35] <Kealper> most prepaid cards can't be used for international transactions
#1462 [22:35] <Kealper> bah
#1463 [22:35] <|Matt|> Meh =\
#1464 [22:35] <xales> Also, DRD.
#1465 [22:36] <|Matt|> This sucks. I have no other means of buying the game. :\
#1466 [22:36] <xales> Get a credit card or bank account?
#1467 [22:36] <|Matt|> Don't have a credit card, not old enough to have one yet.
#1468 [22:37] <xales> Ask parents?
#1469 [22:37] <xales> (To buy it for you)
#1470 [22:37] <vapor> too funny
#1471 [22:37] <|Matt|> My moms too scared to put her credit card on the computer, she freaks out thinking someones gonna steal it. Lol
#1472 [22:38] <xales> ._.
#1473 [22:38] <vapor> Matt, use paypal plugin it can give you temporary credit card
#1474 [22:38] <vapor> paypal plugin 4tw
#1475 [22:38] <xales> vapor: That doesn't exist any more
#1476 [22:40] <|Matt|> Looks like i'm screwed then..
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#1481 [23:10] <ah> question
#1482 [23:10] <ah> any mod creators here?
#1483 [23:12] <ah> im looking to get mods made for money
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