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#3 [00:25] <aetherian> holy smokes
#4 [00:25] <aetherian> everywhere is dead
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#13 [01:04] <Rafaello_Romano> Hello
#14 [01:05] <Divingwind> I'm having trouble joining a multiplayer server and was wondering if I could get some help with that
#15 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> What kind of trouble?
#16 [01:07] <Divingwind> well i noticed some of the servers require whitelisting, i wasn't able to figure out who to talk to about joining a particular one. then when i go to join a server that is open to anyone I think it says login failure or something
#17 [01:10] <xales> Divingwind: What is your Minecraft username?
#18 [01:10] <Divingwind> Divingwind
#19 [01:11] <xales> Well, there's the problem.
#20 [01:11] <xales> Minecraft isn't free
#21 [01:11] <xales> You have to buy it to play it
#22 [01:11] <xales> You won't be able to play multiplayer, because you haven't bought it
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#24 [01:12] <Divingwind> oh ok
#25 [01:13] <xales> If you want to play it, you should probably uninstall your (illegal) pirated version, then buy it
#26 [01:13] <Divingwind> or at least I think cause my friend owns it and I started playing it on their computer
#27 [01:13] <xales> Ah.
#28 [01:14] <xales> Well, if you downloaded an illegal copy, shame on you. If you just logged into someone elses account, and are playing offline, just buy it :)
#29 [01:14] <Divingwind> ok
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#31 [01:14] <Divingwind> buying does what exactly since I noticed there is a browser version and download version
#32 [01:15] <xales> The free version is a much older and very different game, and can only be played in the browser
#33 [01:15] <xales> The full "beta" version of the game can be played in the browser (not recommended) or downloaded
#34 [01:16] <Divingwind> ok and once bought i don't have to pay anything in the future it updates I guess if right now there is only a beta version
#35 [01:16] <xales> If you buy it now, you get the final release and any bugfixes after that
#36 [01:16] <xales> (For a reduced price)
#37 [01:17] <Divingwind> ok
#38 [01:18] <Divingwind> so the 14.95 price is for the actually game but since its not officially out its discounted right now?
#39 [01:18] <xales> Yes.
#40 [01:18] <Divingwind> ok
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#42 [01:20] <Divingwind> where can I go to find information more about the current version and what is available?
#43 [01:21] <xales> Well, there's the demo: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/
#44 [01:21] <xales> But if you've already played it, then you know exactly what is in it
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#46 [01:22] <Divingwind> i have a sandbox sort of idea what it entails
#47 [01:23] * mib_nq8zxv [mib_nq8zxv@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#48 [01:23] <xales> There's also http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
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#50 [01:24] <Divingwind> k
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#52 [01:25] <mib_2kauci> hi
#53 [01:25] <xales> Hello
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#55 [01:26] <mib_nq8zxv> Hey, anyone here familiar with Fenixin's Minecraft Region Fixer?
#56 [01:26] <xales> Not I, sorry.
#57 [01:26] <mib_2kauci> Hand finance might be the game?
#58 [01:26] <mib_2kauci> or only pay ?
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#60 [01:27] <mib_nq8zxv> And you wouldn't have any other leads as of how to fix corrupted chunks?
#61 [01:28] <xales> mib_nq8zxv: If it's truly corrupted, you could try deleting it
#62 [01:28] <xales> mib_2kauci: Ön nem tud fizetni személyesen
#63 [01:28] <mib_2kauci> kösz
#64 [01:28] <mib_nq8zxv> that just left a giant hole in my world
#65 [01:28] <xales> mib_nq8zxv: You could try opening the map in MCEdit, and regenerating parts of the map
#66 [01:29] <xales> MCEdit would be able to regenerate the chunk
#67 [01:29] <mib_nq8zxv> i couldn't find that option
#68 [01:29] <xales> (back to it's initial state)
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#70 [01:29] <mib_nq8zxv> ok i can look into it
#71 [01:29] <xales> I believe it's in "chunk control"
#72 [01:29] <mib_nq8zxv> thank you
#73 [01:29] <frogzilla> SO.... My minecraft crashes to desktop after login
#74 [01:29] <frogzilla> and i can't fucking get it to work
#75 [01:29] <xales> frogzilla: Is there an error? Are you using any mods?
#76 [01:29] <frogzilla> and this godam log pops up
#77 [01:30] <frogzilla> i cant even load it on minectaft.net
#78 [01:30] <xales> Copy the log to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link.
#79 [01:30] <xales> Also...chill out..it's not the end of the world
#80 [01:30] <frogzilla> i'm mad bro
#81 [01:30] <frogzilla> im about to slit my wrists
#82 [01:30] <frogzilla> LOL
#83 [01:30] <xales> Well, if you aren't going to answer my questions or do what I'm asking, I'm not going to help you
#84 [01:31] <frogzilla> don't worry i'm going
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#86 [01:31] <frogzilla> http://pastebin.com/xgyjLd9s
#87 [01:31] <frogzilla> there u go
#88 [01:32] <xales> ??> frogzilla win/reinst
#89 [01:32] <VoxelHead> frogzilla: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#90 [01:32] <VoxelHead> frogzilla: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#91 [01:32] <frogzilla> I clocked on the link in the forum, there was a fix for ati drivers, but it just takes me to this sheit.
#92 [01:32] <frogzilla> Lol, i have already tried appdata
#93 [01:32] <frogzilla> doesn't work
#94 [01:33] <ArashiDragon> does anyone know why I would be banned on #mcchatter (unles the web interface I'm using (mibbit) has it's host generally banned?
#95 [01:33] <xales> ArashiDragon: Mibbit is banned from there
#96 [01:33] <xales> frogzilla: What OS are you on?
#97 [01:33] <ArashiDragon> dag nabit.. I don't want to install an IRC client.. I am on win7 I usually use xchat
#98 [01:33] <frogzilla> Windows 7 x64
#99 [01:33] <frogzilla> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=333482
#100 [01:33] <ArashiDragon> but IRC is my bane (wastes a lot of my time)
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#102 [01:34] <frogzilla> I've tried every os in compatablility mode, reinstalled jave to previous versions, and it doen't fix it...
#103 [01:34] <ArashiDragon> oh.. got your question mixed up ith someone else
#104 [01:34] <xales> frogzilla: Completely uninstall Java
#105 [01:34] <ArashiDragon> you answered it.. mibbit is banned.. oh ell
#106 [01:34] <xales> Then, install the latest 64-bit Java
#107 [01:34] <frogzilla> Yup.
#108 [01:35] <xales> (and nothing else)
#109 [01:35] <frogzilla> I tried that dude.
#110 [01:35] <frogzilla> My installation of windows is relatively new as well.
#111 [01:35] <frogzilla> But my fonts are kind of screwy
#112 [01:36] <ArashiDragon> I actually had to install 64 bit java THEN 32 bit java.. I didn't have frogzilla's exact error, but was getting a java exception
#113 [01:37] <xales> frogzilla: That's not the latest version of Java :)
#114 [01:37] <frogzilla> I know, I downgraded java...
#115 [01:37] <frogzilla> I had the latest version installed, and it did the same thing.
#116 [01:37] <xales> As I've said, install the _latest_ version.
#117 [01:38] <xales> Was the log identical?
#118 [01:38] <frogzilla> Yes.
#119 [01:38] <ArashiDragon> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp <-- java manual download links.. (shows ALL versions, instead of trying to detect)
#120 [01:38] <frogzilla> It says windows vista i dunno why
#121 [01:38] <xales> ??> frogzilla win/dxdiag
#122 [01:38] <VoxelHead> frogzilla: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#123 [01:38] <VoxelHead> frogzilla: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#124 [01:40] <frogzilla> Why would you need my direct x log?>
#125 [01:40] <xales> It contains system information and diagnostics?
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#127 [01:42] <haitiIP> hi guys
#128 [01:42] <haitiIP> anyone know how to make infinite water
#129 [01:42] <haitiIP> i have bucket
#130 [01:43] <xales> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Water
#131 [01:44] <haitiIP> k thanks
#132 [01:44] <frogzilla> @VoxelHead http://pastebin.com/riDejyNN
#133 [01:44] <xales> frogzilla: VoxelHead is a bot, not a person.
#134 [01:45] <frogzilla> lol, idc
#135 [01:45] <xales> Update your video card driver
#136 [01:46] <frogzilla> K
#137 [01:46] <ArashiDragon> oh speaking of water.. isn't it supposed to refreeze when it's being snowed on?
#138 [01:46] <haitiIP> yea i think so
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#140 [01:47] <ArashiDragon> you have any idea how long it's supposed to take.. I was testing today.. I dug snow away by the water.. and then broke some ice.. all the ground got covered with snow (twice: dug it out again) and the water still didn't refreeze
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#142 [01:53] <ArashiDragon> Is there any consolidated location of suggestions? I have a few idea's. but I'm getting tired of reading forums trying to find out if it was already suggested
#143 [01:53] <xales> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
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#145 [01:55] <ThorSve33> hey guys
#146 [01:55] <ThorSve33> i need help setting up bigbrother on a mac
#147 [01:55] <ThorSve33> their IRC is dead
#148 [01:56] <xales> As the topic suggests, we don't provide support for mods
#149 [01:56] <frogzilla> LOL, it works! <3 no homo
#150 [01:56] <xales> It's not possible for all of us to be familiar with every mod out there
#151 [01:57] <ThorSve33> ah
#152 [01:57] <ThorSve33> didn't see that :/
#153 [01:57] <ThorSve33> sorry!
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#156 [02:04] <Lunamon> haitiIP, fuck off
#157 [02:04] <haitiIP> :(
#158 [02:07] <Kealper> Lunamon: :/
#159 [02:07] <Lunamon> [haitiIP PING]
#160 [02:07] <haitiIP> hmm it seems Lunamon is in Melbourne,AU, internet speed is DSL with TELESTRA INTERNET
#161 [02:07] <Lunamon> ..a lot
#162 [02:08] <Kealper> a talking bot....
#163 [02:08] <haitiIP> am not
#164 [02:08] <Kealper> [haitiIP PING]
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#166 [02:08] <Kealper> >.>
#167 [02:08] <NotiCon> Kealper: you found a talking bot that isnt an ai?
#168 [02:09] <Kealper> NotiCon: i know right?
#169 [02:09] <haitiIP> lol
#170 [02:09] <haitiIP> i am no bot
#171 [02:09] <NotiCon> crazy stuff
#172 [02:09] <haitiIP> who bot
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#174 [02:09] <haitiIP> hmm
#175 [02:10] <haitiIP> NotiCon you are located in Berlin, Germany, you also have DSL but with Hetznet online AG
#176 [02:10] <Kealper> i'm reading more about this Bitcoin stuff...some of these people really take Bitcoin seriously >.>
#177 [02:11] <Kealper> (not saying it's a joke, but i'm saying they are spending thousands of dollars on computers to mine the coins with)
#178 [02:11] <haitiIP> lulz
#179 [02:11] <NotiCon> haitiIP: no im not my connection however is
#180 [02:11] <Kealper> NotiCon: your server is in Germany? weird
#181 [02:11] <NotiCon> how so?
#182 [02:12] <NotiCon> also itsnt my server
#183 [02:12] <NotiCon> im just using it
#184 [02:12] <haitiIP> yea he uses dsl
#185 [02:12] <Kealper> oh, not weird then
#186 [02:12] <NotiCon> also why would it be weird?
#187 [02:12] <haitiIP> he has dsl with hetzner
#188 [02:12] <Kealper> because Germans are weird :o
#189 [02:12] <NotiCon> oh true
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#191 [02:12] <NotiCon> maybe haitiIP is one
#192 [02:12] <Kealper> could be
#193 [02:13] <haitiIP> no
#194 [02:13] <Kealper> or he could be Haitian lol
#195 [02:13] <haitiIP> i am swiss
#196 [02:13] <NotiCon> oh
#197 [02:13] <Kealper> didn't see that one coming
#198 [02:13] <haitiIP> switzerland is awesome
#199 [02:13] <haitiIP> no wars :D
#200 [02:13] <Kealper> and multitools
#201 [02:13] <NotiCon> new idea: lets invade switzerland
#202 [02:13] <haitiIP> no
#203 [02:13] <haitiIP> new idea, take off firewall
#204 [02:14] <NotiCon> done
#205 [02:14] <Kealper> man, some of these people are getting like 300 megahashes per second with these Bitcoin rigs...my machine is getting... 1.2... ._.
#206 [02:15] <NotiCon> aww
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#208 [02:15] <Kealper> i think i might have to go get my gaming computer in on this....lol
#209 [02:15] <xales> I think Kealper is also taking it a bit seriously
#210 [02:15] <xales> lol
#211 [02:15] <NotiCon> i think i agreed with xales
#212 [02:16] <NotiCon> -d
#213 [02:16] <Kealper> xales: don't hate
#214 [02:16] <xales> :P
#215 [02:16] <NotiCon> haters gonna hate?
#216 [02:16] <Kealper> ^
#217 [02:16] <haitiIP> hmm
#218 [02:17] <haitiIP> for dsl your pretty good, pingin 65500 bytes to you and around 300ms
#219 [02:17] <Kealper> xales: i guess they make a Python (i know right?) Bitcoin mining program that uses OpenCL
#220 [02:17] <haitiIP> with occasional 2400ms spike
#221 [02:18] <Kealper> 300ms ping is garbage
#222 [02:18] <NotiCon> im wondering who haitiIP is pinging?
#223 [02:18] <Kealper> i get that sort of ping to Korea
#224 [02:18] <haitiIP> yea im in america lol
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#226 [02:18] <haitiIP> how am i pinging?
#227 [02:18] <NotiCon> who
#228 [02:18] <NotiCon> not how
#229 [02:18] <haitiIP> im just awesome like that
#230 [02:18] <NotiCon> ._.
#231 [02:18] <haitiIP> you
#232 [02:18] <NotiCon> aetherian: is he your friend?
#233 [02:18] <Kealper> haitiIP: you do realize you are in a channel full of computer programmers, right?
#234 [02:19] <haitiIP> hmm ur spikes have gone down to 1900ms
#235 [02:19] <aetherian> huh buh wha
#236 [02:19] <aetherian> whozzere
#237 [02:19] <haitiIP> hey its not illegal
#238 [02:19] <aetherian> NotiCon: what?
#239 [02:19] <haitiIP> im not sending over 65500
#240 [02:19] <haitiIP> and im not pinging via irc
#241 [02:19] <haitiIP> its cmd
#242 [02:19] <Kealper> you mean ICMP
#243 [02:20] <haitiIP> idk im using cmd to ping him
#244 [02:20] <Kealper> and since you said "cmd" it implies that you are not using anything spectacular, just windows and it's ping program
#245 [02:20] <haitiIP> yup
#246 [02:20] <haitiIP> i could use net tools 5
#247 [02:20] <aetherian> I get a 175-200ms average pinging xales's server :D
#248 [02:20] <aetherian> this is better than normal...
#249 [02:20] <Kealper> as i said, you are in a channel full of computer programmers, you'll have to step up your game if you wish to impress
#250 [02:20] <NotiCon> haitiIP: who is it you are pinging?
#251 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Wow, haitiIP's such a leet hax0rs
#252 [02:20] <xales> Poor aetherian
#253 [02:20] <xales> ping -f
#254 [02:20] <xales> :P
#255 [02:20] <aetherian> NUUUUU
#256 [02:20] <xales> totally rape your connection
#257 [02:20] <Kealper> xales: UDP flood
#258 [02:21] <aetherian> lool
#259 [02:21] <NotiCon> Kealper: udp flood him i dare you D:
#260 [02:21] <aetherian> xales: cha cha cha roll
#261 [02:21] <xales> I think people might care more about a UDP flood
#262 [02:21] <xales> ping flood is nothing :P
#263 [02:21] <haitiIP> i was pinging you NotiCon
#264 [02:21] <NotiCon> no you werent
#265 [02:21] <haitiIP> hey wtf im not flooding anyone
#266 [02:21] <NotiCon> you were pinging my connection
#267 [02:21] <NotiCon> my connection != me
#268 [02:21] <Kealper> NotiCon: i can't, when i was messing around with making my own UDP flooder, i locked my router up and vowed never to tuoch tha source again
#269 [02:21] <haitiIP> i was pinging your ip
#270 [02:21] <haitiIP> ha
#271 [02:21] <NotiCon> Kealper: aww :/
#272 [02:21] <haitiIP> ur isp has keen eyes
#273 [02:22] <NotiCon> also my connection ip isnt mine
#274 [02:22] <Kealper> NotiCon: apparently my router doesn't like me pushing like 150MB/s of nulls at it :/
#275 [02:22] <haitiIP> whos is it?
#276 [02:22] <NotiCon> aww Kealper
#277 [02:22] <NotiCon> irccloud.com's ?
#278 [02:22] <haitiIP> that sucks
#279 [02:22] * Kealper rages at his crappy router
#279 [02:23] <haitiIP> who is that
#280 [02:23] <haitiIP> but i located u and ur in berlin
#281 [02:23] <haitiIP> 88.198.6.68 is your ip
#282 [02:23] <NotiCon> ._.
#283 [02:23] <xales> Wow, you can use a geoip tool
#284 [02:23] <xales> Hey, guess what. I can too
#285 [02:23] <Kealper> !lookup pool-71-180-150-10.tampfl.fios.verizon.net
#286 [02:23] <NotiCon> haitiIP: that ip isnt mine
#287 [02:23] <Kealper> stupid bot
#288 [02:23] <haitiIP> wtf
#289 [02:24] <haitiIP> why u do that
#290 [02:24] <Kealper> AuBot: get out of here, you're useless ._.
#291 [02:24] <haitiIP> now they kno im in tampa
#292 [02:24] <haitiIP> home of the bucs
#293 [02:24] <Kealper> haitiIP: technically to anyone who was not aware of how Verizon does their rDNS'....
#294 [02:25] <Kealper> you just told everyone where you were, as the irc bot failed at getting your state/city
#295 [02:25] <haitiIP> nah read my ip it says tampfl
#296 [02:25] <haitiIP> somewhere in there
#297 [02:25] <Kealper> as i said, to anyone who does not know how Verizon does their rDNS....
#298 [02:25] <Kealper> although...i am slightly jealous of you having fios
#299 [02:26] <xales> I don't ever max out my connection unless I'm torrenting sometihng
#300 [02:26] <Kealper> you should go to http://speedtest.net and throw the result image in here
#301 [02:26] <aetherian> DNS D:
#302 [02:26] <xales> however...Kealper is about to shit himself
#303 [02:26] * xales gets a picture
#303 [02:26] <aetherian> xales: rich basta-
#304 [02:26] <aetherian> err, I mean
#305 [02:26] <Kealper> fios is not really all that expensive
#306 [02:26] <haitiIP> lol im running wifi plus my fios is only 15/5
#307 [02:27] <Kealper> it's just not common
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#309 [02:27] <Kealper> and only exists in big cities, of which i do not live in
#310 [02:27] <haitiIP> yea tampa is pretty big iguess
#311 [02:27] <Kealper> (if fios was offered here, you could bet i'd have the fastest package they offered >:( )
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#313 [02:28] <haitiIP> i think 50/? is the fastest available where i live
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#315 [02:29] <aetherian> I think that dns is the fastest sort of thing I'll ever get in this house
#316 [02:29] <Kealper> let me see if the internet gods will bless me with nice speed tonight on this test
#317 [02:29] <Kealper> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1287730116.png good enough >.>
#318 [02:30] <haitiIP> bout to give link to my results
#319 [02:30] * aetherian kills Kealper
#319 [02:30] <haitiIP> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1287730683.png
#320 [02:30] <Kealper> i do love my ping though, it's really decent for cable
#321 [02:30] <haitiIP> 15 dl and 2 ul
#322 [02:30] <haitiIP> not too good ul :(
#323 [02:30] <aetherian> asdf
#324 [02:30] <Kealper> wow, my cable internet curbstomped your fios
#325 [02:30] <NotiCon> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1287730996.png
#326 [02:30] * aetherian kills haitiIP
#326 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> haitiIP - Do you have any reason to be here?
#327 [02:31] <haitiIP> yea
#328 [02:31] * NotiCon awaits responses
#328 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Are you just trying to show off that you know how to use "ping"?
#329 [02:31] <haitiIP> because im bored
#330 [02:31] <xales> Kealper: This isn't my computer...but...I win. http://xales.info/~xales/dlspeed.png
#331 [02:31] <Kealper> NotiCon: i'm jelly of that upload
#332 [02:31] <aetherian> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1287731261.png and this is when everyone else is asleep and not using internet
#333 [02:31] <haitiIP> lol yea thats it
#334 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Then I'm asking you to knock it off, and leave.
#335 [02:31] <Kealper> xales: :<
#336 [02:31] <NotiCon> Kealper: i wouldnt be if i had to share it with around 1k-2k ppl
#337 [02:31] <haitiIP> sorry u didnt catch my sarcasm
#338 [02:31] <haitiIP> im not pinging people anymore
#339 [02:32] <Kealper> NotiCon: o.o
#340 [02:32] <xales> Kealper: I don't think I did a speedtest there :|
#341 [02:32] <NotiCon> Kealper: uni \o/
#342 [02:32] <Kealper> xales: was that on like a 50mbit fios package or something? lol
#343 [02:33] <Kealper> oh xD
#344 [02:33] <xales> Kealper: Nope, residential lines can't do that
#345 [02:33] <NotiCon> of some sort
#346 [02:33] <haitiIP> yea we can
#347 [02:33] <xales> mm...no
#348 [02:33] <haitiIP> atleast here in tampa i can
#349 [02:33] <Kealper> i need an extra $400 a month
#350 [02:33] <xales> Downloading at 8.0MB/s? Sure, yeah, I bet you can
#351 [02:33] <xales> Kealper: That's also at a university :)
#352 [02:34] <Kealper> so i can feed Comcast that and get 100mbit internet at my house
#353 [02:34] <xales> lol
#354 [02:34] <haitiIP> no not comcast
#355 [02:34] <haitiIP> but i can get veriozon 50/? at my house
#356 [02:34] <aetherian> never ever ever get at&t
#357 [02:34] <Kealper> my mom has a business that she runs from home so my house can get business internet :>
#358 [02:35] <haitiIP> cool story bro
#359 [02:35] <xales> Kealper - That's the first time in quite a while I've gotten on a wired connection there \o/
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#361 [02:35] <Kealper> xales: lol
#362 [02:35] <aetherian> I wish I didn't have crummy innernets
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#365 [02:36] <Kealper> xales: so..back to Bitcoin...how many khashs/sec were/are you getting?
#366 [02:37] <haitiIP> is bitcoin like paypal or something
#367 [02:37] <Kealper> haitiIP: no
#368 [02:37] <Kealper> it's like the dollar
#369 [02:37] <haitiIP> sorry im a noob
#370 [02:37] <Kealper> or the euro
#371 [02:37] <haitiIP> i still dont get it :/
#372 [02:37] <relsqui> it's not a service. it's a currency.
#373 [02:37] <Kealper> ^
#374 [02:37] <haitiIP> soo
#375 [02:38] <aetherian> feh, bitcoin was too confusing
#376 [02:38] <haitiIP> how does this work
#377 [02:38] <haitiIP> ?
#378 [02:38] <Kealper> 1376khashs/sec \o/
#379 [02:38] <xales> Kealper: I don't remember. I had the daemon running on my server for a long time, but I don't remember how fast it was going
#380 [02:38] <xales> haven't set it up since I remembered that it existed at all ._.
#381 [02:38] <Kealper> lol
#382 [02:38] <haitiIP> how does bitcoin work
#383 [02:38] <xales> Why don't you read the plethora of documentation on it
#384 [02:39] <haitiIP> omg there are 66000 possible ports?
#385 [02:39] <aetherian> xales: tl;dr is why
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#387 [02:39] <Kealper> i'm tempted to set up the OpenCL one on my main computer and have it add to this instance running on my server and see how fast i can get it...just because
#388 [02:39] <Kealper> haitiIP: 65535
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#390 [02:39] <haitiIP> lol notin is tl for mwe
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#392 [02:40] <Kealper> 65535 total ports, that is
#393 [02:40] <xales> ....Was that English?
#394 [02:40] <haitiIP> wtf why my scanner says 1-66000
#395 [02:40] <haitiIP> bootleg ass scanner
#396 [02:41] <xales> Wow, you have a "scanner." You must be a really cool "hacker."
#397 [02:41] <Kealper> keep the harsh language to a minimum, please
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#399 [02:41] <haitiIP> not really
#400 [02:41] <xales> That's what you seem to be implying
#401 [02:41] <haitiIP> nah lol i just started lernin 2 day ago
#402 [02:41] <aetherian> okay, BOFHs can stop insulting lusers here :|
#403 [02:41] <haitiIP> all i want to do is DoS
#404 [02:41] <Uz3r> Hello I got a prawblum.
#405 [02:41] * aetherian facepalms
#405 [02:42] <aetherian> at both of them.
#406 [02:42] <Uz3r> Haow do I change ze nick?
#407 [02:42] <Kealper> you can't really deny much service on that sort of internet, haitiIP :/
#408 [02:42] <Kealper> Uz3r: in IRC or Minecraft?
#409 [02:42] <haitiIP> use /nick whateveruwanthere
#410 [02:42] <Uz3r> In MC of course!
#411 [02:42] <aetherian> you can't
#412 [02:42] <Kealper> Uz3r: you can't, right now :/
#413 [02:42] <Uz3r> VERY BAD!
#414 [02:42] <haitiIP> hit f10
#415 [02:42] <Kealper> indeed
#416 [02:42] <aetherian> minecraft nicks can't be changed
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#418 [02:42] <Kealper> ehh...
#419 [02:42] <Uz3r> It's not because I was dick and stuff.
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#421 [02:42] <haitiIP> if that doesnt work hit alt + f4
#422 [02:42] <Uz3r> Haiti
#423 [02:42] * GreyVulpine kicked haitiIP from #minecrafthelp (Reason: haitiIP)
#424 [02:42] <xales> gah
#425 [02:42] <Uz3r> Delete system32 and GTFO
#426 [02:42] * GreyVulpine yawns
#426 [02:42] <xales> you beat me
#427 [02:42] <xales> >:|
#428 [02:42] <aetherian> :D
#429 [02:43] <Kealper> bah! ninja!
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#431 [02:43] <Uz3r> Guys.
#432 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#433 [02:43] <xales> I bet he's going to come right back with a different name ._.
#434 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> I didn't set a ban
#435 [02:43] <Uz3r> Did You hear that Notch said those who bought beta after 20 dec will need to pay for updates after official release?
#436 [02:43] <Kealper> if he comes back, we can have some fun with him
#437 [02:44] <Steve> cool story bro
#438 [02:44] <Kealper> Uz3r: yes, we know this
#439 [02:44] <Uz3r> Do You think he will RLY do that?
#440 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#441 [02:44] <Uz3r> Because I think he'll get fined for sudden license change
#442 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> The license was clearly stated, and the changes were announced
#443 [02:44] <Kealper> his lawyer was the one that told him that he had to do that
#444 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> I don't think he'll get fined
#445 [02:44] <Uz3r> This is bullshit RLY
#446 [02:45] <Uz3r> I buy game and I still need to pay
#447 [02:45] <Kealper> i don't see how it changes anything, you still get the full version
#448 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> ^
#449 [02:45] <xales> It's just like every other game. You pay for content after it's released
#450 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> Alpha and beta users will still get updates, bug fixes, as well as the final version for free
#451 [02:45] <xales> (Also commonly called "expansion packs" or "downloadable content")
#452 [02:45] <Uz3r> Back then he said Alpha and Beta users will get FREE full version and updates after official release too
#453 [02:45] <Uz3r> Then ge fukken changed it
#454 [02:45] <Kealper> no, no....you don't understand
#455 [02:46] <Kealper> you still get the final version of the game for free
#456 [02:46] <Kealper> nothing has changed in that respect
#457 [02:46] <Uz3r> Also Alpha users paid 50% less so it's kinda unfair
#458 [02:46] <Uz3r> They get all shit
#459 [02:46] <Keltinray> how is that unfair?
#460 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> Early adopters get a discount.
#461 [02:46] <Kealper> what beta users do not get for free is expantion packs for the game after it's released
#462 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> Not unfair at all
#463 [02:46] <Kealper> ^
#464 [02:46] <Keltinray> They bought it at an earlier phase of development
#465 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> I remember when multiplayer was an unplayable piece of crap
#466 [02:47] <Kealper> ^
#467 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> I still got alpha because it was cheaper back then
#468 [02:47] <Keltinray> I bought it after beta was out. My loss.
#469 [02:47] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :All notch would have to do is claim an expansion pack is Minecraft 2 :P
#470 [02:47] <Kealper> lol
#471 [02:47] <Uz3r> For me this is really gay
#472 [02:48] <Uz3r> It's like what people that bought MC in early stage have done? Nothing
#473 [02:48] <Keltinray> They made Notch continue development by actually buying it
#474 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> Shaped the way minecraft has developed?
#475 [02:48] <Keltinray> They contributed with feedback
#476 [02:48] <Uz3r> Just poked all the bugs that were huge and everyone could be able to see the,
#477 [02:48] <m0nk> look at what stands at the top of the page on this page
#478 [02:48] <m0nk> http://www.topicvine.org/?page_id=318
#479 [02:48] <Uz3r> Beta users support Notch too
#480 [02:48] <Uz3r> EVen with moar money
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#482 [02:49] <Kealper> Uz3r: well if you are complaining, you should have bought it when it was in Alpha, and $5 cheaper
#483 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Alpha users was what got him started in the beginning, and he rewarded them for it.
#484 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> I don't see anything wrong with it.
#485 [02:49] <Uz3r> I don't buy alpha bullshit
#486 [02:49] <Kealper> Uz3r: your loss
#487 [02:49] <Keltinray> So there you go
#488 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Then you have no reason to complain
#489 [02:49] <Uz3r> I have reason
#490 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> <Uz3r> I don't buy alpha bullshit
#491 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> We can see that
#492 [02:49] <Uz3r> But now seriously
#493 [02:49] <xales> This is a help channel, not a complaint center
#494 [02:50] <xales> I heard the #jiuuaffaw channel was where complains should go
#495 [02:50] <Uz3r> If people could stop buying MC he would reward people who buy beta too
#496 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Seriously, we honestly don't care.
#497 [02:50] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Who thinks this was an irresponsible thing to make: http://minecraft-check-login.appspot.com
#498 [02:50] <Keltinray> No, he really wouldn't.
#499 [02:50] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Note: it logs usernames and passwords, don't use yours :P
#500 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> lukegb - What in the world...
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#502 [02:50] <m0nk> lukegb does it work? and if. how?
#503 [02:50] <Uz3r> Then he would GTFO and trash the game
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#505 [02:51] <xales> Uz3r: Really, we don't care. As I've said, this isn't the complaint center. I'm not going to ask you again to stop
#506 [02:51] <Uz3r> Dis sux
#507 [02:51] <Kealper> Uz3r: ok, if you do not need technical help, you don't need to be here
#508 [02:51] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :GreyVulpine: after a series of leaks, like the most recent one, I sorta needed a way to check a large number of usernames/passwords against minecraft.net to see if they were valid.
#509 [02:51] <Uz3r> I need technical help
#510 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Uz3r - With?
#511 [02:51] <Uz3r> Haow do I hax
#512 [02:51] * Kealper kicked Uz3r from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Uz3r)
#513 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> dangit
#514 [02:51] * GreyVulpine shakes fist at Kealper.
#514 [02:51] <Kealper> i had that one ready :P
#515 [02:52] <xales> I was about to clipboard it too :|
#516 [02:52] <m0nk> is there a way to see ping in-game in mc?
#517 [02:52] <xales> Nope
#518 [02:52] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :GreyVulpine: I might lock it down though, could be a tool for bad :P
#519 [02:52] <m0nk> so the f3 does nothing other than fps?`
#520 [02:52] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :m0nk: try /version, count response time, divide by 2
#521 [02:52] <Kealper> lukegb: what.....is this and why did i just enter my bank info into it?
#522 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> f3 gives chunk updates, position, utilization
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#526 [02:53] <Kealper> figuring how he went silent, he's probably searching though that site's logs checking for anything lol
#527 [02:54] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper: I don't need to :P
#528 [02:54] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper: it logs everything nice and neatly. I can look up successful logins via GQL, and send them off to be ignored by Mojang.
#529 [02:54] <xales> lukegb: So I heard you like Portal 2 countdown timers
#530 [02:54] <Kealper> lukegb: ok but seriously, what is this? does it just test try to log in an see if an account is real or not?
#531 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> lukegb didn't need to, he's used his nslookup hack command to find Kealper's bank info, credit card numbers, and passport info
#532 [02:55] <Kealper> ^
#533 [02:55] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :yeah, it tries to log in. If that fails due to Too many failed logins, it tells google to use a different outbound IP and try again
#534 [02:55] <xales> Kealper!
#535 [02:55] <Kealper> and then tracked my IP address with a GUI in Visual Basic
#536 [02:55] <xales> Your PIN number is the same number I use on my luggage! How could you!
#537 [02:55] * GreyVulpine snickers
#537 [02:55] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper: oh dear lord not that thing again
#538 [02:55] <Kealper> xales: 12345? amazing!
#539 [02:55] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I'll just write a quick GUI in visual basic!
#540 [02:56] <xales> lukegb: While crossing the ocean in your IRC ship
#541 [02:56] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I'll just do a quick paintjob on my car!
#542 [02:56] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :xales: yar har har
#543 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> Can you make it all Hackers-like, with the flying and the digital skyscrapers?
#544 [02:56] <Kealper> so...many...memes...in so little time....
#545 [02:56] <xales> Kealper: So I heard you like memes...
#546 [02:56] <xales> :P
#547 [02:56] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper: 'The Game', 'The Cake Is A Lie'
#548 [02:56] <Kealper> yo dawg, i heard you like memes, so i...
#549 [02:57] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper: 'nyannyannyan', 'spaaaaaaaaace'
#550 [02:57] <Kealper> breathing manually
#551 [02:57] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper: 'trolololololo', 'Never gonna give you up'
#552 [02:58] <Keltinray> I'm never gonna trololololo you in spaaaaaaace?
#553 [02:58] <Kealper> lol
#554 [02:58] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Never gonna lose the game.
#555 [02:58] <Kealper> ROFL
#556 [02:58] <Keltinray> lukegb, but you just did
#557 [02:58] <Kealper> this statement is false.
#558 [02:58] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :No. I never lose the game.
#559 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> True
#560 [02:59] <xales> GreyVulpine: This following statement is false; The previous statement is true
#561 [02:59] <xales> :)
#562 [02:59] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :GreyVulpine: I'll go...... True! Though I may have heard that one before.
#563 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> True.
#564 [03:00] <xales> lukegb: How much bandwidth did that site suck? :P
#565 [03:00] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :xales: hp2ly?
#566 [03:00] <xales> Yeah
#567 [03:00] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Dunno, didn't bother checking :P
#568 [03:00] <xales> ._.
#569 [03:00] <NotiCon> ._.
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#571 [03:00] <NotiCon> if you like tennis look in the top right left corner
#572 [03:00] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :It was an entirely static webpage, so it wasn't really important.
#573 [03:00] <Kealper> wow, setting Bitcoin to highest priority was a semi-bad idea
#574 [03:00] <xales> Kealper: Highest, or realtime?
#575 [03:01] <Kealper> highest, i ain't suicidal lol
#576 [03:01] <NotiCon> you sure?
#577 [03:01] <xales> You could lock it to one core and make it realtime, works quite well with some things :)
#578 [03:01] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :What would be fun: sneaking a bitcoin generator into my custom MC launcher so all my friends generate me bitcoins.
#579 [03:01] <Kealper> lol
#580 [03:01] <Kealper> lukegb: XD
#581 [03:01] <relsqui> haha
#582 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Make bukkit ad-supported with bitcoin
#583 [03:01] <Kealper> anywho....doubled the speed Bitcoin was working at, but ffs...
#584 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Donations welcome to get the premium version
#585 [03:01] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :GreyVulpine: download bukkit: please generate 5 bitcoins
#586 [03:02] <xales> Kealper: Is it taking advantage of multiple CPUs?
#587 [03:02] <Kealper> xales: idk, lemme check
#588 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> Good thing I don't use bukkit (yet)
#589 [03:02] <aetherian> Kealper: set it to use all everything
#590 [03:02] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Ehe
#591 [03:02] <Kealper> xales: yep...all cores are maxed
#592 [03:02] <NotiCon> set it to use aetherian
#593 [03:02] <xales> hehe
#594 [03:02] <xales> I wonder what it'll do on mine
#595 [03:02] <Kealper> which probably explains why that hurt so much when it was in highest lol
#596 [03:02] <xales> lukegb: http://xales.info/~xales/cpu.txt :3
#597 [03:03] <NotiCon> need bigger cache
#598 [03:04] <Kealper> that's probably the one downside with AMD, their CPUs don't have as much cache as Intel ones...but...they are a quarter of the price so, it works out lol
#599 [03:04] <aetherian> the upside to intel cpu for me is
#600 [03:04] <aetherian> it came in my laptop :D
#601 [03:04] <Kealper> lol
#602 [03:05] <NotiCon> aetherian: did you break it?
#603 [03:05] <aetherian> uh
#604 [03:05] <aetherian> no?
#605 [03:05] <NotiCon> good
#606 [03:05] <xales> I think my CPU has more RAM than this laptop has usable RAM
#607 [03:05] <xales> err, more cache
#608 [03:05] <NotiCon> how so
#609 [03:05] <Kealper> xales: 6MB? lol
#610 [03:05] <xales> Pretty much
#611 [03:05] <Kealper> ._.
#612 [03:05] <NotiCon> ._.
#613 [03:05] <xales> I'm at 100% memory utilization even with NOTHING open
#614 [03:05] <xales> ...
#615 [03:05] <aetherian> lewl
#616 [03:05] <xales> Fuck you Apple
#617 [03:05] <NotiCon> kewl
#618 [03:05] <Kealper> damn that laptop sucks lol
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#620 [03:06] <aetherian> wait what
#621 [03:06] <aetherian> xales: apple?!
#622 [03:06] <Kealper> speaking of crappy laptops
#623 [03:06] <Kealper> i fixed mine
#624 [03:06] <aetherian> :O
#625 [03:06] <xales> /o\
#626 [03:06] <Kealper> but now i have to reinstall windows because the hdd is full of failure
#627 [03:06] <aetherian> >reinstall windows
#628 [03:06] <Kealper> actually
#629 [03:06] <Kealper> hell
#630 [03:06] <aetherian> also, I am going to be right back
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#632 [03:06] <Kealper> Arch!
#633 [03:06] <aetherian> because I'm going to get some DELICIOUS CHOCOLATE CAKE
#634 [03:07] <Kealper> i never threw linux on it because Ubuntu/Mint were always too heavy for it...but Arch!
#635 [03:07] <NotiCon> aetherian: do a barrel roll
#636 [03:08] <Kealper> although....i need a surrogate laptop with a cd drive....because this laptop is too slow and old to support usb boot and it's too small to have a cd drive
#637 [03:08] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Ooh
#638 [03:08] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :There's a Java bitcoin generator
#639 [03:08] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :
ACTION embeds into bukkit.org

#640 [03:08] <Kealper> distributed computing say what?
#641 [03:09] <Kealper> lukegb: XD
#642 [03:09] <NotiCon> Kealper: does not compile?
#643 [03:09] <Kealper> NotiCon: wut?
#644 [03:09] <NotiCon> Kealper> distributed computing say what? <-
#645 [03:09] <Kealper> i meant for the java Bitcoin thingy
#646 [03:09] <NotiCon> oh
#647 [03:10] <Kealper> java + lots of servers = \o/
#648 [03:10] <xales> Kealper: ._. http://xales.info/~xales/damnmac.png
#649 [03:10] <aetherian> back
#650 [03:10] <Kealper> xales: omg lol
#651 [03:10] <NotiCon> \o/ <- is no longer a head with two arms up but instead a man being looked at from above
#652 [03:11] <aetherian> xales: >1GBram
#653 [03:11] <aetherian> lewl
#654 [03:11] <Kealper> aetherian: it's his craptop not his main lol
#655 [03:11] <aetherian> heh
#656 [03:11] <NotiCon> i thought it was his mactop?
#657 [03:11] <Kealper> ^
#658 [03:11] <aetherian> I managed to gain possession of a crappy desktop that was lying around
#659 [03:11] <aetherian> also
#660 [03:11] <aetherian> xales
#661 [03:12] <aetherian> why do you even have a mac
#662 [03:12] <NotiCon> aetherian: i have many of those
#663 [03:12] <aetherian> Y
#664 [03:12] <xales> It was cheaper at the time
#665 [03:12] <Kealper> i have a crappy desktop sitting at my feet right now lol
#666 [03:12] <NotiCon> cause i bought them?
#667 [03:12] <NotiCon> when they were crappy
#668 [03:12] <Kealper> i got mine because someone said "if you can fix it, you can have it...but no one i have taken it to so far has been able to fix it"
#669 [03:12] <aetherian> Kealper: how crappy
#670 [03:12] <NotiCon> werent*
#671 [03:13] <Kealper> i now have a working crappy computer lol
#672 [03:13] <xales> Derp.
#673 [03:13] <NotiCon> herp
#674 [03:13] <aetherian> berp
#675 [03:13] <xales> Dherp.
#676 [03:13] <NotiCon> lerp?
#677 [03:13] <aetherian> LARP
#678 [03:13] <Kealper> aetherian: 1.3Ghz single core Celeron with 384MB of DIMM
#679 [03:13] <Kealper> durp
#680 [03:13] <NotiCon> noes
#681 [03:13] <NotiCon> burp
#682 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Oi
#683 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> That's crap
#684 [03:13] <Kealper> yes, yes it is
#685 [03:13] <aetherian> nice
#686 [03:13] <aetherian> niiice
#687 [03:14] <Kealper> my laptop is worse though
#688 [03:14] <aetherian> mine's better :D
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#690 [03:14] <NotiCon> my laptop is awesome
#691 [03:14] <xales> Kealper: I had a 800MHz Celeron with 512MB of RAM :P
#692 [03:14] * GreyVulpine pffts
#692 [03:14] <Kealper> 700Mhz P3 with 256MB of pc-100 SO-DIMM
#693 [03:14] * GreyVulpine still has a working 133Mhz with 40 megs of RAMA
#693 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> RAM
#694 [03:14] <xales> Okay, that I can't beat
#695 [03:14] <xales> :P
#696 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> or wait, 166Mhz
#697 [03:14] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: ya beat me....i threw mine out lol
#698 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> :P
#699 [03:14] <NotiCon> imma stick with what Kealper said
#700 [03:15] <aetherian> this desktop is...
#701 [03:15] <Kealper> i had a 166Mhz one, but it was upgraded with 2 16MB sticks shortly before it was abandoned for a newer computer
#702 [03:15] <NotiCon> failing apart?
#703 [03:15] <Kealper> so it had 64MB of ram \o/
#704 [03:15] <aetherian> it has an Intel pentium \o/
#705 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> I used it to run Red Hat..
#706 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> FTP server, back in my napster days
#707 [03:15] <NotiCon> i has intel core 2 vpro D:
#708 [03:15] <Kealper> mine ran windows 95 and Doom :>
#709 [03:16] <aetherian> DOOM
#710 [03:16] <Kealper> back in....like 1996...lol
#711 [03:16] <NotiCon> mine ran raptor
#712 [03:16] <aetherian> dooooooom
#713 [03:16] * Kealper misses his first computer
#713 [03:16] <aetherian> this desktop actually has a 128MB graphics card \o/
#714 [03:16] <NotiCon> nothing like those good old games
#715 [03:16] * GreyVulpine doesn't miss the turbo button
#715 [03:16] * NotiCon adds some turbo to aetherian
#715 [03:16] <Kealper> aetherian: speaking of which, that crappy computer i said i had....oh man...the video card in it is almost as good as the computer itself lol
#716 [03:17] <aetherian> haha
#717 [03:17] <aetherian> this computer though
#718 [03:17] <xales> Kealper: But the question is, can it run Minecraft?
#719 [03:17] <aetherian> if it's booted into XP
#720 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> No really, you could slow down your computer intentionally with a button on the front of the chassis
#721 [03:17] <Kealper> i had a GF 8400GS laying around so i threw it in there lol
#722 [03:17] <xales> :P
#723 [03:17] <Kealper> xales: yes, yes it does
#724 [03:17] <aetherian> it's so slow D:
#725 [03:17] <aetherian> Kealper: at a whole fps?
#726 [03:17] <Kealper> it takes FOREVER to load, but once it gets everything into memory it runs it at like 30fps
#727 [03:17] <aetherian> WAT
#728 [03:18] <xales> ^
#729 [03:18] <aetherian> ^
#730 [03:18] <aetherian> ^
#731 [03:18] <Kealper> as i said...the video card...it's kinda nice lol
#732 [03:18] * GreyVulpine remembers screwing around with the LED display of school computers, showed some insane Mhz when you pressed the turbo button
#732 [03:18] <Kealper> framerate slows down to like 5fps when it needs to load more chunks though :/
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#734 [03:19] <aetherian> still, Kealper
#735 [03:19] <aetherian> dubya tee eff
#736 [03:19] <Kealper> lol
#737 [03:19] <aetherian> everyone
#738 [03:19] <aetherian> Kealper has sparked it again
#739 [03:19] <aetherian> it's compare minecraft FPS time :D
#740 [03:20] <xales> I have over 400 FPS.
#741 [03:20] <xales> Don't bother
#742 [03:20] <xales> :P
#743 [03:20] <Kealper> 80-120 with the game maxed :/
#744 [03:20] <aetherian> :D
#745 [03:20] <Kealper> ~300 with it on lowest :<
#746 [03:20] <aetherian> I get ~150-200 with everything maxed
#747 [03:20] <aetherian> although
#748 [03:20] <xales> Kealper: That's actually not bad, but I think the last update broke FPS
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#750 [03:20] <aetherian> when I say maxed
#751 [03:20] <aetherian> it may be on fast graphics
#752 [03:20] <xales> So I don't know what mine actually is. It shows around 400 though
#753 [03:21] <aetherian> haha
#754 [03:21] <Kealper> aetherian: yeah when i say maxed...i mean everything set to highest, and using smooth lighting lol
#755 [03:21] <xales> (I believe it's showing chunk updates)
#756 [03:21] <aetherian> it's actually 50
#757 [03:21] <aetherian> :>
#758 [03:21] <aetherian> still
#759 [03:21] <Kealper> my server gets like 40-50 fps lol
#760 [03:21] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Use fraps, then.
#761 [03:21] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Poof, magic, you'll get your fps rate
#762 [03:21] <aetherian> I think that 150-200 on max graphics on a laptop is quite fine :|
#763 [03:21] <xales> Fraps doesn't run on my computer (:
#764 [03:21] <aetherian> :)
#765 [03:22] <Kealper> xales: wine doesn't do it?
#766 [03:22] <xales> Extrmely unlikely
#767 [03:22] <Kealper> :/
#768 [03:22] <xales> As the Windows API doesn't provide access to the X Windows System or OpenGl, does it? :)
#769 [03:22] <Kealper> true....
#770 [03:22] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Bah bah bah
#771 [03:22] <Kealper> although, wine does run DirectX games
#772 [03:22] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :As a linuxian, you should take that as a challenge, and find a way to make it work
#773 [03:22] <aetherian> ^
#774 [03:23] <aetherian> Linuxian isn't the right word...
#775 [03:23] <xales> Kealper: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3437
#776 [03:23] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Not be all hipster with your obsure OS and be all like "It's awesome, but nah, nothing will work on it"
#777 [03:23] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :+c
#778 [03:23] <xales> BlackGyver: It's hardly obscure
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#780 [03:23] <aetherian> lol
#781 [03:23] <aetherian> >linux
#782 [03:23] <aetherian> >hipster
#783 [03:23] <xales> ^
#784 [03:23] <Kealper> ^
#785 [03:23] <aetherian> I thought that hipsters used macs...?
#786 [03:23] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Nah
#787 [03:24] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Macs are too mainstream now
#788 [03:24] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Linux is the new hip
#789 [03:24] <aetherian> nonono
#790 [03:24] <aetherian> like
#791 [03:24] <Kealper> speaking of which....brb getting laptop and a surrogate laptop that i just happen to have laying around that i can use to install Arch
#792 [03:24] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :The UNDERGROUD HIP
#793 [03:24] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :IMAGINE
#794 [03:24] <aetherian> they still think they're all "different"
#795 [03:24] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :That's like a double dose of hip
#796 [03:24] <xales> I wouldn't be surprised if Ubuntu became "cool" sometime soon
#797 [03:24] <xales> ._.
#798 [03:24] <aetherian> mac users are depressing
#799 [03:24] <aetherian> ^
#800 [03:24] <aetherian> what with unity and some other things
#801 [03:25] <aetherian> there was a slashdot story about that...
#802 [03:25] <xales> (If it's not already. I don't follow that garbage)
#803 [03:25] <aetherian> it's more mainstream than others
#804 [03:25] <aetherian> I'm still waiting for windows to come so that I can install arch >.>
#805 [03:26] <xales> Why do you even need Windows?
#806 [03:26] <xales> Everything I want works just fine
#807 [03:26] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I'm dumb.
#808 [03:26] <xales> (including Windows-only games :>)
#809 [03:26] <aetherian> xales: because of school
#810 [03:26] <aetherian> :/
#811 [03:26] <aetherian> otherwise, I _would_ just have Linux
#812 [03:27] <xales> aetherian: Why do you need it for school?
#813 [03:27] <xales> I haven't tried it myself, but AG_Scott tells me that Office 2010 works fine as well
#814 [03:27] <Kealper> OpenOffice :/
#815 [03:27] <aetherian> I still plan on using libreoffice
#816 [03:27] <xales> OpenOffice is a steaming pile of Oracle catfeces now
#817 [03:27] <xales> LibreOffice > OpenOffice
#818 [03:27] <aetherian> ^
#819 [03:28] <xales> aetherian: So...why _do_ you need Windows then?
#820 [03:28] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :What's with these "^" ?
#821 [03:28] <xales> An arrow
#822 [03:28] <aetherian> xales: I had a list of reasons before, and I'm too tired to think them up again >..
#823 [03:28] <xales> Pointing to the previous message, "quoting" it
#824 [03:28] <aetherian> *>.>
#825 [03:28] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Why won't you just say "Agree", then ?
#826 [03:28] <aetherian> BlackGyver: too lazy
#827 [03:28] <xales> And less specific
#828 [03:29] <aetherian> actually, that's one of my reasons for getting windows
#829 [03:29] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:503e:b6b1:3a94:4a6b PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Hahahah
#830 [03:29] <aetherian> I dun' wanna mess with WINE D:
#831 [03:29] <aetherian> actually xales
#832 [03:29] <AG_Scott> Nonono
#833 [03:29] <AG_Scott> Office 2010 does not work
#834 [03:29] <AG_Scott> 2007 does
#835 [03:29] <xales> Ah
#836 [03:29] <aetherian> I wrote an application essay for honors club about using Linux just this last week
#837 [03:29] <aetherian> :D
#838 [03:30] <aetherian> bore them with talk about guis and kernels
#839 [03:30] <aetherian> :>
#840 [03:30] <AG_Scott> There's always LibreOffice though.
#841 [03:30] <Kealper> s/gui/cui/
#842 [03:30] <AG_Scott> I prefer Office though.
#843 [03:30] <aetherian> <3 LibreOffice
#844 [03:31] <aetherian> Kealper: concept user interface?
#845 [03:31] <aetherian> :o
#846 [03:31] <xales> AG_Scott: I prefer Office versions that don't have the stupid ribbon thing
#847 [03:31] <xales> >:|
#848 [03:31] <Kealper> console user interface?
#849 [03:31] <aetherian> paperclip everyone :D
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#851 [03:32] <Paper> Are you guys able to help with a texture problem or is there another channel best used for it?
#852 [03:32] <xales> What's the issue?
#853 [03:32] <AG_Scott> xales, i love the ribbon
#854 [03:32] <AG_Scott> you'll hate windows 8
#855 [03:32] <AG_Scott> its apparently throughout the entire OS
#856 [03:33] <Paper> I was placing some fencing, everything was fine.. suddenly the texture stops appearing. They appear on blocks surrounding but there's just a section (whose end I haven't determined) where fencing won't show up as anything but a clear block.
#857 [03:33] <Paper> I can screenshot if necessary.
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#859 [03:35] <xales> Paper: Have you tried restarting the game?
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#861 [03:36] <Paper> Yes.
#862 [03:36] <xales> Are you using any mods or texture packs?
#863 [03:37] <NotiCon> xales: what ribbons?
#864 [03:37] <Kealper> ok Arch over pxe seems like a total PITA...i'll just wait until tomorrow to do this...then i can steal my parents' computer and dissect this other laptop i have to use that as a surrogate machine....
#865 [03:39] <Paper> Yes. http://i.imgur.com/bUiIf.jpg
#866 [03:39] <Paper> Problem isn't that it never works.. just suddenly has no texture.. doesn't matter what block I place underneath it.
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#869 [03:40] <Kealper> Paper: is that on single player or multi?
#870 [03:40] <Paper> Single
#871 [03:40] <Kealper> oh..that's....weird
#872 [03:40] <Paper> Yeah.. <_<
#873 [03:40] <xales> Paper: Try using the default texture pack - same issue?
#874 [03:41] <Paper> I'll check.. probably should have first, but was hoping someone might know something I missed.. lol. Brb.
#875 [03:41] <Paper> Just updating removes all texture packs, correct?
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#877 [03:42] <xales> I'm not sure
#878 [03:43] <xales> You could just switch to the default in the menu
#879 [03:43] <Paper> I didn't apply it through there, that's why I asked. It did restore to default. Still the same problem.
#880 [03:43] <Kealper> oh so it's a mod....
#881 [03:44] <Kealper> yeah force update in the launcher options, that will remove it
#882 [03:44] <Paper> Yeah, still have the same problem.
#883 [03:45] <xales> Paper: Press F3 - are the coordinates 1000? Weird stuff is known to happen there
#884 [03:46] <Paper> -48 66 -22
#885 [03:46] <Paper> ish
#886 [03:46] <Paper> Unless you're looking for numbers not xyz
#887 [03:46] <Paper> There are a lot of numbers there.. so.. lol
#888 [03:46] <Paper> Want the C number maybe.. ?
#889 [03:47] <xales> Try removing the fence behind it
#890 [03:47] <Paper> I put that there to see if there was actually fencing placed where I thought I put it. Fence still doesn't appear.
#891 [03:48] <xales> Dig out the ground under the fence and re-place it, maybe?
#892 [03:48] <Paper> Yep, did that, too. Tried a different block. Fencing works in the space above where I'm trying to put it, though.
#893 [03:49] <N> Invisible fences?
#894 [03:49] <xales> That's very weird...
#895 [03:49] <N> Put a block next to or on top of the fence, it should appear
#896 [03:49] <Paper> Yep.. sure did.
#897 [03:49] <Paper> Awesome.
#898 [03:49] <Paper> Thank you. :D
#899 [03:50] * Kealper makes note of that
#899 [03:50] <Paper> Ah.. it didn't go down all the way though.
#900 [03:51] <Paper> Still mostly invisible. Guess I'm putting grass around my fencing... <.<
#901 [03:54] <aetherian> Kealper: with what
#902 [03:54] <aetherian> oh god don't say notepad
#903 [03:54] <Kealper> my mind D:
#904 [03:54] <aetherian> whew
#905 [03:55] <xales> aetherian: Notepad
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#907 [03:55] <xales> ...you asked me not to tell you that.
#908 [03:55] <Kealper> my laptop has an onboard IR port!
#909 [03:55] <xales> Find a way to beam Arch onto it
#910 [03:55] <aetherian> xales: you run notepad through wine somehow :O
#911 [03:55] <xales> :P
#912 [03:55] <xales> aetherian: Easily.
#913 [03:56] <Kealper> xales: oh gosh that would be so slow lol
#914 [03:56] <xales> `wine notepad`
#915 [03:56] <xales> :>
#916 [03:56] <aetherian> :D
#917 [03:56] <Kealper> i think those things can only go at like 4mbit/s
#918 [03:56] <xales> Kealper: Fun fact:
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#920 [03:56] <aetherian> ooh ooh
#921 [03:56] <aetherian> fun fact time
#922 [03:56] <xales> Wine's IE6 emulator/fake browser/whatever it is, is more secure and standards compliant then Internet Explorer
#923 [03:56] <xales> ....wat
#924 [03:56] <xales> oh, it's faster and smaller too
#925 [03:57] <Paper> Is the invisible fence thing in this area something I should bug report on the forums or does it not matter?
#926 [03:57] <xales> Paper: Forums aren't the place for bug reports
#927 [03:57] <GreyVulpine> It's already a known issue
#928 [03:57] <Paper> Well then. :P
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#930 [03:59] <Paper> I lied about it working on the next one up.. only worked cause there was another block to make it appear.. lol. Awesome.
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#932 [04:00] * Kealper can't wait to get bread's WM on his laptop
#932 [04:01] <xales> Kealper: I can probably help with that, but bread is more available than I :P
#933 [04:01] <Kealper> xales: about how much ram would you say Arch with that WM takes up when it just starts?
#934 [04:01] <xales> 200MB?
#935 [04:01] <Kealper> hmm...and what with xfce? more or less? :/
#936 [04:01] <xales> Hard to get a good figure, because disk caching and the startup applications immediately run :P
#937 [04:01] <xales> XFCE would be _much_ more
#938 [04:02] <Kealper> figured as much
#939 [04:02] <Kealper> so it would be using about as much ram as windows xp....drat...lol
#940 [04:03] <xales> During the WM startup process, it rsync's my Firefox profile into RAM, caches ~/.wine, and launches several terminal windows
#941 [04:03] <xales> All before the WM is actually brough up
#942 [04:03] <aetherian> wait wat
#943 [04:03] <Kealper> oh so it's probably far less than 200MB on the setup i'll be having then lol
#944 [04:03] <aetherian> xales: what would be 200MB?
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#946 [04:04] <xales> Not to mention the numerous other applications that also start, such as a pager and panel, compositor, xscreensaver....
#947 [04:04] <aetherian> what would be 200MB?
#948 [04:04] <Kealper> breadsexy i think it's called....lol
#949 [04:04] <xales> lol
#950 [04:04] <aetherian> ah
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#952 [04:05] <aetherian> you could use something lighter
#953 [04:05] <Kealper> ehh....lighter usually means can't do crap
#954 [04:05] <xales> Kealper: Why not install Arch onto your gaming computer? :<
#955 [04:05] <Kealper> xales: because i game with my gaming computer :/
#956 [04:05] <Kealper> and going though wine is not how i want to game
#957 [04:05] <xales> Most games work on Wine, and if they don't, there's always dualbooting
#958 [04:06] <aetherian> lolbooting
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#960 [04:06] <aetherian> :D
#961 [04:06] <Kealper> but my laptop on the other hand...now that would make a perfect candidate for Arch
#962 [04:06] <xales> Let me rephrase then, Kealper ._.
#963 [04:06] <xales> Why not dual-boot your gaming computer with Arch?
#964 [04:06] <aetherian> the archbang live CD is nice for my desktop
#965 [04:06] <aetherian> it uses ~60-80MB ram idling
#966 [04:07] <Kealper> because i don't have the space for a second OS ._.
#967 [04:07] <aetherian> Kealper: how much space on the drive?
#968 [04:07] <xales> You went on a deleting spree and free up 60+GB, last I asked you :P
#969 [04:07] <Kealper> i've only got a 250 gig hdd...and that is consistantly at like 20gb or less
#970 [04:07] <Kealper> xales: not anymore lol
#971 [04:07] <aetherian> wat
#972 [04:07] <aetherian> how...
#973 [04:07] <Kealper> hell
#974 [04:08] <aetherian> I never fill up much of my hdd
#975 [04:08] <Kealper> what is taking up that much space....
#976 [04:08] <xales> You don't need more than 10GB for Arch, if you don't plan on gaming on it
#977 [04:08] <xales> Kealper: This again? ._.
#978 [04:08] <aetherian> uh oh
#979 [04:08] <Kealper> i really gotta clean out my computer and uninstall all the games i don't play anymore
#980 [04:09] <xales> Kealper: Yes, why not do that, then install Arch? :)
#981 [04:09] <Kealper> omg lol
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#983 [04:09] <xales> Kealper: y/n?
#984 [04:10] <Kealper> i can't be the resident windows fanboy if my main computer isn't running windows >.>
#985 [04:10] <xales> Kealper: Dualboot.
#986 [04:11] <Kealper> one of these days....i'll dualboot it....but for now, my laptop will have to suffice for my linuxing
#987 [04:11] <xales> Plus...A Windows server is all you need
#988 [04:11] <xales> ._.
#989 [04:11] <Kealper> lol
#990 [04:11] <xales> Why not just try it on a real computer, with breadsexy, for a short while?
#991 [04:11] <xales> It won't hurt anything, you can easily reclaim the disk space
#992 [04:11] <xales> <.<
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#994 [04:12] * Kealper sighs
#994 [04:12] <aetherian> or rather
#995 [04:12] * xales Kealpers Kealper with a mighty Kealper
#995 [04:12] <aetherian> does your computer support USB booting?
#996 [04:12] <xales> What a terrible idea
#997 [04:12] <xales> Don't do it.
#998 [04:12] <aetherian> DO IT
#999 [04:12] <Kealper> if i can get my laptop working tomorrow without a major hitch, i'll clean up my main's hdd and dual boot Arch on it ._.
#1000 [04:13] <aetherian> ooh
#1001 [04:13] <Kealper> aetherian: that'd be dumb and slow
#1002 [04:13] <aetherian> can we bet money on this?
#1003 [04:13] <xales> Kealper: If you want breadsexy to work on it....well....
#1004 [04:13] <xales> it will have lots of hitches
#1005 [04:13] <xales> <.<
#1006 [04:13] <xales> especially if 200MB is an issue
#1007 [04:13] <xales> (also, breadsexy is a PITA to setup, you _really_ only want to do this once =/)
#1008 [04:13] <Kealper> XD
#1009 [04:13] <aetherian> also, goodnight, guys.
#1010 [04:14] <aetherian> pita bread :D
#1011 [04:14] <Kealper> why don't you or bread make a python installer script for it :/
#1012 [04:15] <Kealper> and then distribute it...because...it looks smexy
#1013 [04:15] <xales> Kealper: Not that simple
#1014 [04:15] <Kealper> :/
#1015 [04:15] <xales> It has to be done by hand, because some of the programs are stupid
#1016 [04:16] <Kealper> this sounds like an all day project...lol
#1017 [04:16] <xales> It's more of a 2 hour project, really
#1018 [04:16] <xales> well...most likely
#1019 [04:17] <xales> Anyway...what's the harm in putting it on your desktop?
#1020 [04:17] <Kealper> can i insert my windows fanboyism in right now?
#1021 [04:17] <Kealper> of course i can
#1022 [04:17] <xales> If you use the Win7's install disk to partition it, you won't have any issues with data loss on the Windows end
#1023 [04:17] <Kealper> windows 7 takes about 30 min to set up :>
#1024 [04:17] <xales> What about installing antivirus/browser/disabling UAC/updates? :>
#1025 [04:18] <Kealper> psh....antivirus....
#1026 [04:18] <xales> Anyway, Kealper, I think if you are going to bother with breadsexy, just do it on your desktop
#1027 [04:19] <xales> It's not worth the effort to put it on a crappy laptop where you can't even take advantage of it
#1028 [04:19] <Kealper> well..now you're making me not want to do it lol....
#1029 [04:19] <Paper> Hm.. still regarding the invisible fencing.. is anybody familiar with MCEdit?
#1030 [04:19] <xales> Put Fluxbox or something else dumb on your laptop
#1031 [04:19] <xales> :)
#1032 [04:19] <Kealper> ._.
#1033 [04:19] <xales> Paper: Only vaguely
#1034 [04:19] <Kealper> i didn't like Fluxbox at all :/
#1035 [04:19] <Kealper> it was ugly and dumb :/
#1036 [04:20] <Paper> Do you know what the transparent red boxes mean?
#1037 [04:20] * Kealper doesn't
#1037 [04:20] <Paper> :'(
#1038 [04:21] <Paper> I just see in that program there are a bunch of red boxes in a line somewhere below where I was putting the fencing that was invisible. Likely related.. just not sure what it means. Off to Google. ;P
#1039 [04:21] <xales> Kealper: Openbox is ugly and dumb until you spend hours configuring it
#1040 [04:21] <xales> bread has done that work for us
#1041 [04:21] <Kealper> i might just throw xfce on it...i doubt it'll use more ram than windows xp....and it's fast and painless to install :/
#1042 [04:21] <Google> For that, we love him
#1043 [04:22] <xales> "we"
#1044 [04:22] <xales> You don't even _use_ Linux
#1045 [04:22] <xales> Derp.
#1046 [04:22] <Kealper> lol
#1047 [04:22] <Google> I want to :<
#1048 [04:22] <xales> Then do so?
#1049 [04:22] * World applies Kealper to xales
#1049 [04:22] <World> and hello
#1050 [04:22] <Kealper> wut
#1051 [04:22] <xales> Hi Wug
#1052 [04:22] <Google> tl;dr when I get a 2nd laptop the primary one will run linux
#1053 [04:23] <xales> Kealper: Arch y/n Desktop y/n?
#1054 [04:23] <World> anyone care to give me a rundown on vnc?
#1055 [04:23] <World> is it pretty much the same as remote desktop?
#1056 [04:23] <Kealper> Arch y Desktop maybe
#1057 [04:23] <Google> y y
#1058 [04:23] <xales> (It's quite a different experience when it works; just a word of warning. It will probably be dumb running on a shitty laptop :|)
#1059 [04:23] <xales> World: It's not the same whatsoever
#1060 [04:23] <Google> y lolmaybe
#1061 [04:23] <xales> It's very different. Similar in purpose, but very different
#1062 [04:23] <xales> Read the documentation :)
#1063 [04:23] <Kealper> ^
#1064 [04:24] * World types www.google.com/search?q=vnc then clicks on it
#1064 [04:24] <Google> laptop is portable
#1065 [04:24] <Kealper> vnc is more for remote controlling a current session of a computer, RDP is for opening a new session (or using an inactive one) instead of just remote controlling a session that is currently being used
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#1067 [04:24] <Kealper> vnc is more like teamviewer than it is to RDP
#1068 [04:25] <World> aha
#1069 [04:25] <World> is there something along the lines of rdp for linux?
#1070 [04:25] <World> ssh is new instance only
#1071 [04:25] <World> which is a problem
#1072 [04:25] <Kealper> hmm....not sure
#1073 [04:25] <Kealper> although that would be useful...i really like RDP
#1074 [04:25] <World> ^
#1075 [04:26] * World also hates man pages
#1075 [04:26] <World> because they are fugly and incomplete
#1076 [04:26] <World> seriously, man ps is the most useless document ever
#1077 [04:26] <World> half of the options arent even there
#1078 [04:26] <Kealper> lol
#1079 [04:27] <World> ps [-aAcdefjlLPyZ] [-g grplist] [-n namelist] [-o format]...
#1080 [04:27] <World> [-p proclist] [-s sidlist] [-t term] [-u uidlist] [-U uidlist]
#1081 [04:27] <World> [-G gidlist] [-z zonelist]
#1082 [04:27] <World> <------- this is the usage according to man ps
#1083 [04:28] <World> it doesnt bother to tell me what any of -aAcdefjlLPyZ do
#1084 [04:28] <World> I shudder to think what man rm looks like
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#1086 [04:29] <World> "oh, ill just figure it out with trial and error. what could go wrong?" *deletes entire filesystem*
#1087 [04:31] <Kealper> XD
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#1090 [04:46] <BlackMoon> Hi everyone.
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#1092 [04:47] * BlackMoon reads rules... finds 'You can ask to be forwarded to a place for support with mods'
#1092 [04:47] <BlackMoon> Wheres that? hopefuly its not the void.
#1093 [04:47] <BlackMoon> (Just need help resolveing a block ID conflict beween two mods that don't have configs. I assume this will mean decompiling and recompiling the mods
#1094 [04:48] <BlackMoon> Can't decide beween pistons and shelfs.. Gotta have both!
#1095 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> Check out #risucraft
#1096 [04:50] <BlackMoon> Cool thanks. Actualy found my awnser after searching 'minecraft piston conflict', Piston DOES have a config file.. its just not made for you. And im blind.
#1097 [04:52] <BlackMoon> Sorry for not googleing more first.
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#1106 [05:42] <m0nk> i think i did something wrong somewhere
#1107 [05:42] <m0nk> i can't place anything without it dissapearing
#1108 [05:43] <m0nk> i /(mynick) op then i did deop. then i found out i couldnt use /give commands then i re wrote my name in ops txt but it still didnt work
#1109 [05:44] <m0nk> nvm. used server side to op me
#1110 [05:44] <Wug> restart server
#1111 [05:45] <m0nk> or that
#1112 [05:45] <m0nk> ,,
#1113 [05:45] <m0nk> ..
#1114 [05:45] <m0nk> *
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#1116 [05:45] <Wug> you have to restart when you change those files, with the exception of the whitelist, which can be reloaded in game
#1117 [05:45] <Landstreet> can i talk to the creators of Essentials?
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#1119 [05:46] <Landstreet> or does anybody know where ican find them?
#1120 [05:47] <Necrodoom> landstreet: what?
#1121 [05:47] <Necrodoom> find what
#1122 [05:47] <Landstreet> the ones who made the "Essentials" plugin
#1123 [05:47] <Necrodoom> you already came on #essentials
#1124 [05:48] <Necrodoom> why didnt you just asked there
#1125 [05:49] <Landstreet> don't know... but can i find the people who made Essentials there?
#1126 [05:49] <Necrodoom> why do you need the essentials devs anyway
#1127 [05:50] <Landstreet> i wanted to ask if they could help me with my plugin error thingy
#1128 [05:50] <Necrodoom> #essentials is the help IRC
#1129 [05:51] <Necrodoom> say what the problem is there
#1130 [05:51] <Necrodoom> and dont ask to ask, just ask
#1131 [05:51] <Landstreet> ok thx
#1132 [05:53] <BlackMoon> Necrodoom: I hate that. its like way to waste a line just to wait for a human to respond when he could of allready been awnsering your question by now
#1133 [05:53] <Landstreet> am in the "#essentials" irc now?
#1134 [05:53] <BlackMoon> Not to mention most people won't reply to those can I question questions, even if they likey could awnser the real question.
#1135 [05:54] <BlackMoon> Landstreet: no this is #minecrafthelp
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#1140 [06:16] <mib_a9ya5m> Ooouu..kkkaay..
#1141 [06:16] <mib_a9ya5m> This sorta works I guess..
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#1143 [06:17] <RunForYour> hello?
#1144 [06:17] <mib_a9ya5m> Hi ...
#1145 [06:17] <mib_a9ya5m> Wanted to ask where can I get the minecraft.jar that's the previous version - 1.4
#1146 [06:17] <RunForYour> hmmm
#1147 [06:18] <RunForYour> i have one that is modded :(
#1148 [06:18] <mib_a9ya5m> There's this mod Industrialcraft I want to try, but the maker is sort of.... Not updating it, and the current link there is for 1.4, not 1.5..
#1149 [06:18] <mib_a9ya5m> Which mods are on there?
#1150 [06:18] <mib_a9ya5m> Notch should really add some options to switch inbetween version jars... D:
#1151 [06:19] <RunForYour> Blackmodule and the mini map
#1152 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> If he did that, there wouldn't be a point to selling minecraft, as anybody could just download the .jar and run minecraft without paying for it
#1153 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> For now, back it up for your own personal use
#1154 [06:19] <mib_a9ya5m> Here's the catch. It'd be on the website or something when you log in..
#1155 [06:19] <mib_a9ya5m> There's lots of ways to make it work without any fancy stuff.
#1156 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, nothing stopping people from downloading and distributing it
#1157 [06:20] <mib_a9ya5m> Well, it's pretty distributable right now..
#1158 [06:20] <RunForYour> im supprised there isn't a hacked version yet xD
#1159 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> There is
#1160 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> Quite a few actually
#1161 [06:20] <mib_a9ya5m> There's no need to hack. Just download and play offline, lol..
#1162 [06:20] <mib_a9ya5m> I miss the old generator though and the old version.
#1163 [06:20] <mib_a9ya5m> Grab a sword, run underground, fight enemies and eat shrooms...
#1164 [06:20] <mib_a9ya5m> In the old epic caves. D:
#1165 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, no reason for notch to develop new version then either
#1166 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> if everybody's just playing with older legacy versions
#1167 [06:21] <RunForYour> oh well....back to why i got on here.....When i start the game in a browser it loads up all fine, but after it loads i just get a white box.
#1168 [06:21] <mib_a9ya5m> Go generate a map on the classic, see what I mean.
#1169 [06:21] <mib_a9ya5m> ... White box?
#1170 [06:21] <mib_a9ya5m> sounds like java didn't load...
#1171 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> Usually happens when java or the video card drivers are screwed up
#1172 [06:21] <mib_a9ya5m> What browser you with?
#1173 [06:22] <RunForYour> firefox
#1174 [06:22] <mib_a9ya5m> Which version?
#1175 [06:22] <RunForYour> newest....4 i think
#1176 [06:22] <mib_a9ya5m> Lemme see, Im with it too
#1177 [06:22] <RunForYour> yep, 4.0.1
#1178 [06:22] <mib_a9ya5m> with that too
#1179 [06:22] <mib_a9ya5m> WHITE SCREEN OF DEATH
#1180 [06:22] <mib_a9ya5m> GUUAAAH
#1181 [06:23] <mib_a9ya5m> Demote mozilla to a older version. xD
#1182 [06:23] * mib_a9ya5m can do that too, He guesses.
#1182 [06:23] <RunForYour> i can play via download fine, so your probibly right
#1183 [06:23] <mib_a9ya5m> ff-no.
#1184 [06:23] <mib_a9ya5m> I just tested, lol.
#1185 [06:23] <mib_a9ya5m> Mozilla 4.0.1 (LATEST)
#1186 [06:23] <mib_a9ya5m> And there's just a while screen...
#1187 [06:23] <mib_a9ya5m> Didn't see java loading so I'm guessing mozilla fails at loading java.
#1188 [06:24] <mib_a9ya5m> .. Why does the chat underline eVERY each of my words. D:
#1189 [06:24] <mib_a9ya5m> Evil mibbit.. should get IRC
#1190 [06:24] <RunForYour> i managed to run around on the clasic server fine though
#1191 [06:24] <mib_a9ya5m> I love the classic's world generator..
#1192 [06:24] <mib_a9ya5m> Maps were simple.. And the freedom of busting blocks .
#1193 [06:25] <mib_a9ya5m> No tight caves obstructing your path.
#1194 [06:25] <RunForYour> i assume you mean mIRC, because IRC is more like a standard xD
#1195 [06:25] <mib_a9ya5m> IRC/MIRC whatever.
#1196 [06:25] <mib_a9ya5m> Mibbit.com is where I'm at right now.
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#1198 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Totally diffferent things
#1199 [06:25] <mib_a9ya5m> I still need a 1.4 jar lol
#1200 [06:25] <RunForYour> IRC is like HTTP, both protocals
#1201 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> ?? distribution
#1202 [06:25] <VoxelHead> distribution: Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#1203 [06:25] <VoxelHead> distribution: This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#1204 [06:26] <mib_a9ya5m> Even if I show proof that I own an account? ._.
#1205 [06:26] * GreyVulpine nods
#1205 [06:26] <mib_a9ya5m> D:
#1206 [06:26] <mib_a9ya5m> Then how do I make the darn mod be compatible with the new version..
#1207 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> Learn how to program, or contact the mod's maker
#1208 [06:26] <mib_a9ya5m> ... What does notch even change to make it incompatible..
#1209 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> To update minecraft.
#1210 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> The mod makers are the ones who lag behind
#1211 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Go yell at them
#1212 [06:27] <mib_a9ya5m> I know that... The modmaker's dead or something.
#1213 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> I'd rather have minecraft continuously update, than stagnate..
#1214 [06:27] <mib_a9ya5m> There should be a way to force the mod to run on newest patch, being not for it..
#1215 [06:27] <RunForYour> guess you will just have to not update next time, till then, just wait
#1216 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> That's up to the mod
#1217 [06:29] <mib_a9ya5m> Doees anyone on here know why mods break upon update.... I don't see any sense in them breaking, unless notch edits everything .
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#1219 [06:29] <RunForYour> gn
#1220 [06:30] <mib_a9ya5m> every .class is a object on its own... Some are linked.
#1221 [06:30] <mib_a9ya5m> And all of them point how to get loaded into minecraft.
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#1223 [06:31] <mib_a9ya5m> Nnghh What do I open .class files with
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#1225 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> .class files are compiled java files
#1226 [06:32] <mib_a9ya5m> Is there a way to decompile them 100% ?
#1227 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> There's a way to decompile it, sure, but if the file is obfuscated...
#1228 [06:33] <mib_a9ya5m> Shouldn't be.
#1229 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> You'll have fun trying to make heads or tails of it
#1230 [06:33] <mib_a9ya5m> But seriously though... It's a simple script. Take this, do that. It should work on all versions that have same pointers.
#1231 [06:33] <mib_a9ya5m> and functions.
#1232 [06:34] <mib_a9ya5m> Unless there's some safety that prevents minecraft from loading .classess that are outdated.
#1233 [06:34] <mib_a9ya5m> Like some sort of verification against corruption or some stuff
#1234 [06:35] <mib_a9ya5m> And how do I decompile it?
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#1236 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> Really depends on what you're decompiling
#1237 [06:37] <mib_a9ya5m> I found that myself..
#1238 [06:37] <mib_a9ya5m> Decompiled and the code seems very simple.
#1239 [06:37] <mib_a9ya5m> there's nothing really special..
#1240 [06:37] <mib_a9ya5m> Like a version indicator or something.
#1241 [06:37] <mib_a9ya5m> Minecraft should load it without a problem.. Unless its the modloader conflicting..........
#1242 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Ah, you're using modloader
#1243 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> modloader needs to be updated each time minecraft updates, new hooks, new functions.
#1244 [06:38] <mib_a9ya5m> I know, but modloader is up to date.
#1245 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Mods written against modloader have to be compiled against those new functions
#1246 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Then you gotta figure out what changed
#1247 [06:39] <mib_a9ya5m> Well, unless notch changes names of hooks and everything each update
#1248 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Great channel for it, #risucraft
#1249 [06:39] <mib_a9ya5m> Mod should work.
#1250 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Those are the ones that maintain modloader
#1251 [06:39] <mib_a9ya5m> Risugamis' Modloader - hence Risu-Craft xD
#1252 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Notch didn't write any hooks
#1253 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> None.
#1254 [06:39] <mib_a9ya5m> well Idk...
#1255 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Modloader and the modding community decompile the source, and write them in themselves
#1256 [06:39] <mib_a9ya5m> It wouldn't make sense if they change the hooks each version, would it ?
#1257 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Ask the people in #risucraft
#1258 [06:40] <mib_a9ya5m> If I just knew how to see what the minecraft error is..
#1259 [06:40] <mib_a9ya5m> *sigh* Fine I'll try
#1260 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Use /nick newnick
#1261 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> to change your nickname
#1262 [06:40] <mib_a9ya5m> I just noticed.
#1263 [06:40] <mib_a9ya5m> It clearly said *Kicked and BanneD* : CHANGZ YE NICK
#1264 [06:40] <[AlucardFH]> Jeez
#1265 [06:42] <[AlucardFH]> Well thanks, bye!
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#1267 [06:43] <m0nk> why is the compass so fucked up. i remember that i didnt spawn in water
#1268 [06:43] <m0nk> as the compass show
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#1271 [06:52] <m0nk> is there a use for the portal?
#1272 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> to travel to the nether
#1273 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Works in SP, isn't implemented in SMP, yet
#1274 [06:53] <m0nk> so thats why i made the portal - stopped server - changed hellworld true - restarted the server - ended up in the nether?
#1275 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> No, making the portal does nothing in SMP, yet.
#1276 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> You, changing the flag of hellworld to true, does
#1277 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Right now, you can either have the overworld, or the nether running on your server, not both
#1278 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> (modding aside)
#1279 [06:57] <m0nk> i made a chest and put all my stuff in it before turning on hellworld. and now i turned hellworld off and it made a new save point and i dont know where i can find it
#1280 [06:57] <m0nk> time for hide 'n seek server?
#1281 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, g'luck with that now
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#1284 [07:04] <DiffrentManB> Got banned off risucraft...
#1285 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> Yes you did
#1286 [07:04] <DiffrentManB> And what for :l
#1287 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> Because you kept asking the same question over and over, when people already answered you.
#1288 [07:05] <m0nk> and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over ????????
#1289 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> They have a low tolerance for "Why is my mod not working anymore"
#1290 [07:05] <DiffrentManB> I asked the same question 4 times, answer was !because // Bot: Because Notch.
#1291 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> <BlackMoon> He removed it because he did'nt wanna tick everyone off with a mod that was more buggy then it was worth. people have reps.
#1292 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> <@lahwran> he renamed pb.Y to rj.ab
#1293 [07:05] <DiffrentManB> ... I KNEW that LONG before he thought of telling me.
#1294 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> <@_303> ModLoader being a mod, it breaks too.
#1295 [07:05] <DiffrentManB> Thats the thing that answered my first question
#1296 [07:05] <DiffrentManB> Hence why I stopped asking about it
#1297 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> <[AlucardFH]> WHATS WITH ALL THE LINKS, AAAAAAH
#1298 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> ^ that's what pushed them over the edge
#1299 [07:06] <m0nk> whats ip to risucraft?
#1300 [07:06] <DiffrentManB> The links, they didn't open for me D:
#1301 [07:06] <DiffrentManB> uum #risucraft? xD
#1302 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft is another channel on this network
#1303 [07:06] <DiffrentManB> without the ?
#1304 [07:06] <BlackMoon> lol ip
#1305 [07:07] <DiffrentManB> So basicly, I asked WHY mods go incompatible... After 6-7 times asking, they told me about that pb.Y to rj.ab
#1306 [07:07] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1307 [07:07] <DiffrentManB> Then asked if someone has IC 1.5
#1308 [07:07] <DiffrentManB> Someone told me I should get MC 1.4 and then I got banned before hearing out where from.
#1309 [07:07] <GreyVulpine> Google for it, you should find it
#1310 [07:08] <DiffrentManB> Been there, Done that
#1311 [07:08] <DiffrentManB> Didn't find a thing
#1312 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> I highly doubt that
#1313 [07:08] <DiffrentManB> Hence why I'm asking on the IRC
#1314 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> Distributing older versions is against the Terms of Service set by Notch
#1315 [07:08] <BlackMoon> http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/01/minecraft-1-4-has-landed-minecraft-item-store-is-live/ hahahhaha.
#1316 [07:09] <BlackMoon> people reporting on the item store like it was real.
#1317 [07:09] <BlackMoon> Im so glad he did'nt do that. Hearing about that lame stuff in TFC was bad enough.
#1318 [07:09] <DiffrentManB> lol..
#1319 [07:09] <DiffrentManB> Blackmoon, Notch isn't Gabe Newell.
#1320 [07:09] <DiffrentManB> D:
#1321 [07:09] <BlackMoon> its like wtf pay money to flip a boolan?
#1322 [07:10] <DiffrentManB> Yeah seriously...
#1323 [07:10] <DiffrentManB> Why cant you FIND keys too?
#1324 [07:10] <BlackMoon> DiffrentManB: or get them for headshoting 20 people in a row or something.
#1325 [07:10] <DiffrentManB> You have to buy keys... Money hungry company is hungry.
#1326 [07:10] <BlackMoon> in midair no less!
#1327 [07:10] <DiffrentManB> I swear HL3 / EP3 is going to cost 1000$ Or something at this rate.
#1328 [07:10] <BlackMoon> DiffrentManB: per pixel
#1329 [07:11] <DiffrentManB> Yeah.
#1330 [07:11] <BlackMoon> Maybe you can get a bulk rate if you buy by the frame.
#1331 [07:11] <DiffrentManB> TO unlock the next pixel of this frame, pay 1000$ !
#1332 [07:11] <DiffrentManB> No wait
#1333 [07:11] <BlackMoon> 'Too much, I'll just play with the 7 pixels I allready bought'
#1334 [07:11] <DiffrentManB> you have to buy the next chapter, unlock it
#1335 [07:11] <DiffrentManB> and complete all 3000 bullshit achievements!
#1336 [07:11] <BlackMoon> hahah.
#1337 [07:11] <BlackMoon> Ride a bullsquid for the entire game and don't shoot anyone!
#1338 [07:11] <BlackMoon> 15 points.
#1339 [07:11] <DiffrentManB> lol..
#1340 [07:12] <DiffrentManB> Or
#1341 [07:12] <DiffrentManB> Play HL and complete it without pressing a button or using a lever!
#1342 [07:12] <BlackMoon> Complete the entire game at 50fps or higher on highest quality settings.
#1343 [07:12] <BlackMoon> 9 points
#1344 [07:12] <DiffrentManB> lol.
#1345 [07:12] <DiffrentManB> fuckit, 0.01 points / achievement
#1346 [07:12] <BlackMoon> <PS: Nvidia! the way its meant to be delayed for 5 seconds while we show this ad!>
#1347 [07:12] <DiffrentManB> Unlock costs 300000000 points
#1348 [07:12] <DiffrentManB> lol.
#1349 [07:13] <DiffrentManB> People here are more friendly than risucraft.
#1350 [07:13] <DiffrentManB> ._.
#1351 [07:13] <BlackMoon> Half life 2 could do so much more for video card sales if it wasent so bloody well optimised.
#1352 [07:13] <DiffrentManB> lol indeed
#1353 [07:13] <BlackMoon> Ever play vampire bloodlines?
#1354 [07:13] <DiffrentManB> It can run on my NvidiaGeForce2 MX/MX 400
#1355 [07:13] <DiffrentManB> Nope.
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#1357 [07:14] <BlackMoon> HL2 engine game, requires 4gigs of ram, or it takes 30+ seconds per level load.
#1358 [07:14] <BlackMoon> And I mean like 1gig ram = 2~3 min level load
#1359 [07:14] <DiffrentManB> HL2 ?
#1360 [07:14] <DiffrentManB> Runs just fine max settings
#1361 [07:14] <BlackMoon> .. And did I mention a level load is EVERY SINGLE BUILDING? reguardless if the building is just ONE ROOM.
#1362 [07:14] <DiffrentManB> on my 2 GB Ram pc
#1363 [07:14] <DiffrentManB> and yeah.
#1364 [07:14] <BlackMoon> then its another 2 mins to enter the building and 3 to leave (city is a bigger load!)
#1365 [07:14] <DiffrentManB> Engine isnt of the most optimised.
#1366 [07:14] <BlackMoon> No this was just vampire bloodlines
#1367 [07:15] <BlackMoon> Also it crashed a LOT. usally on the physics dll.. that was only used for one thing of worth: Breast bounce.
#1368 [07:15] <DiffrentManB> ...
#1369 [07:15] <DiffrentManB> LOL
#1370 [07:15] <Morrolan> But that was worth it!
#1371 [07:15] <BlackMoon> the only other use was debrie in your way that you had to move for no real reason, and never added anything to the gameplay in the 5 sections it was used in
#1372 [07:15] <DiffrentManB> This is like making a physics engine (3D) for a mario game
#1373 [07:15] <DiffrentManB> just for a screensaver..
#1374 [07:15] <BlackMoon> Morrolan: .. yea kinda :P
#1375 [07:16] <BlackMoon> And the graphics... holy crap, I have no idea what it was spending all day loading
#1376 [07:16] <DiffrentManB> Pretty much like having 50000000$
#1377 [07:16] <BlackMoon> it sure wasent textures
#1378 [07:16] <DiffrentManB> and buy a pixel with it.
#1379 [07:16] <DiffrentManB> Which is covered by other cheap ones anyways
#1380 [07:16] <DiffrentManB> Hmmm
#1381 [07:16] <BlackMoon> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mpxZs6fC3B8/R1TOrswiXWI/AAAAAAAAAhk/SHYJTjMHv3c/s1600-R/vampire+2007-12-03+22-05-38-74.jpg
#1382 [07:17] <DiffrentManB> that looks like the Gunz Engine
#1383 [07:17] <BlackMoon> Looks more like HL1 then HL2.
#1384 [07:17] <DiffrentManB> yeah
#1385 [07:17] <DiffrentManB> HL1 HD
#1386 [07:17] <BlackMoon> Exactly. HL1 with a texture pack
#1387 [07:17] <DiffrentManB> exactly.
#1388 [07:17] <BlackMoon> and thats a 3 min loadtime
#1389 [07:17] <DiffrentManB> the buildings dont have that much detail
#1390 [07:17] <BlackMoon> even on an EPIC pc, 30+ seconds.
#1391 [07:17] <DiffrentManB> lol..
#1392 [07:17] <DiffrentManB> must be loading all those invisible ghosts
#1393 [07:18] <DiffrentManB> that are mute
#1394 [07:18] <DiffrentManB> and cant touch anything
#1395 [07:18] <DiffrentManB> or be touched.
#1396 [07:18] <BlackMoon> Minecraft takes about 10 seconds to fully generate a level and load
#1397 [07:18] <DiffrentManB> without smell and stuff
#1398 [07:18] <DiffrentManB> Minecraft runs on my 256 MB Ram, 1.1 GHz PC jsut fine
#1399 [07:18] <DiffrentManB> on tiyn fog... 8 fps .-.
#1400 [07:18] <BlackMoon> Fallout took seconds..
#1401 [07:18] <DiffrentManB> then again that game isnt a valve game
#1402 [07:18] <DiffrentManB> I Love how valve made their maps
#1403 [07:19] <DiffrentManB> strictly ... uh
#1404 [07:19] <DiffrentManB> strictly limited by the engine's optimisations.
#1405 [07:19] <DiffrentManB> they'd make the street 3 meters long
#1406 [07:19] <DiffrentManB> instead of 10 meters
#1407 [07:19] <DiffrentManB> just cuz their engine.
#1408 [07:19] <BlackMoon> lol.
#1409 [07:19] <DiffrentManB> Some random door rendering things.
#1410 [07:19] <DiffrentManB> When door's closed
#1411 [07:19] <DiffrentManB> it cuts off everything behidn it from rendering
#1412 [07:20] <BlackMoon> Yea, see we wanna port to a XBOX, so we'r only gonna have load zones about 20' by 20' because the xbox only has about 60 megs of ram as opposed to the 6gigs that PC's have.
#1413 [07:20] <DiffrentManB> el
#1414 [07:20] <DiffrentManB> oh el
#1415 [07:20] <BlackMoon> Cough, HL2, Cough vampire bloodlines, Cough THIEF 3 GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
#1416 [07:20] <DiffrentManB> there's a seecriit file
#1417 [07:20] <DiffrentManB> that says
#1418 [07:20] <BlackMoon> I want to murder every console owner on the face of the planet for what happened to thief3
#1419 [07:20] <DiffrentManB> "FORCE.THE.PLAYER.TO.USE.GBRAM=6"
#1420 [07:20] <DiffrentManB> xD
#1421 [07:21] <DiffrentManB> ... wats thief3
#1422 [07:21] <DiffrentManB> D:
#1423 [07:21] <BlackMoon> Sequal to the AWSOME game thief 1 and 2.
#1424 [07:21] <Morrolan> !wiki Thief 3
#1425 [07:21] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thief:_Deadly_Shadows
#1426 [07:21] <DiffrentManB> I dont have consoles...
#1427 [07:21] <GreyBot> Thief: Deadly Shadows is a stealth video game in which the player takes the role of Garrett, a master thief. It is set in a fantasy/steampunk world resembling a cross between the Late Middle Ages and the Victorian era, with more advanced technologies interspersed. It is the third entry in the Thief series of video games.
#1428 [07:21] <Morrolan> Just, well, part three. :D
#1429 [07:21] <BlackMoon> Except thief 3 SUCKED ASS, because its levels where TINY (About 1/4 the size of a thief1 or 2 level beween load zones, back when 64megs was HUGE for a pc)
#1430 [07:21] <BlackMoon> the graphics where meh, And the diffaculty.... wasent even there.
#1431 [07:21] <DiffrentManB> reminds me of assasin's creed
#1432 [07:22] <BlackMoon> thief3 on hardest was like thief1 or 2 on ultra easy.
#1433 [07:22] <DiffrentManB> hey blackmoon
#1434 [07:22] <DiffrentManB> I got a idea
#1435 [07:22] <DiffrentManB> Do you have the oldest minecraft survival? xD
#1436 [07:22] <BlackMoon> thief3, if you crouched, you would'nt even make ANY SOUND at all.
#1437 [07:22] <DiffrentManB> the one that came just after classic
#1438 [07:22] <BlackMoon> DiffrentManB: nope.
#1439 [07:22] <DiffrentManB> aw
#1440 [07:22] <DiffrentManB> host on the classic then
#1441 [07:22] <DiffrentManB> with some generated map
#1442 [07:22] <DiffrentManB> :D
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#1444 [07:22] <BlackMoon> thief2 if you where on tile, you had to crouch, 'creep' (super slow walk), and just TAP the movement button
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#1446 [07:22] <DiffrentManB> wait
#1447 [07:22] <BlackMoon> of people like 10' away would hear you and chop your ass in half with 2 sword strikes before you knew what happened.
#1448 [07:25] <DiffrentManB> lol
#1449 [07:25] <DiffrentManB> atleast it isnt like most games
#1450 [07:25] <BlackMoon> Thief2 was like, Dances with guards in the dark!
#1451 [07:25] <DiffrentManB> Grenades kill you THROUGH fat walls
#1452 [07:25] <BlackMoon> thief3 was: Would someone ask the guards to put away thier ipods on guard duty?
#1453 [07:25] <DiffrentManB> lol.
#1454 [07:26] <DiffrentManB> Basicly
#1455 [07:26] <DiffrentManB> Most games' npcs are like
#1456 [07:26] <DiffrentManB> Silent kill on a guard
#1457 [07:26] <DiffrentManB> 2 mins later
#1458 [07:26] <DiffrentManB> the place is swarming with guards
#1459 [07:26] <DiffrentManB> Just use a wallhack
#1460 [07:26] <BlackMoon> Dude thief3 did'nt even do that.
#1461 [07:26] <DiffrentManB> Kill someone and everyone SEES you
#1462 [07:26] <DiffrentManB> they turn around
#1463 [07:26] <DiffrentManB> and start pathfinding
#1464 [07:26] <BlackMoon> kill a guard in the street, 100 witnesses all go running to get guards
#1465 [07:26] <DiffrentManB> lol.
#1466 [07:26] <BlackMoon> you hide 5' away off the main path in a bush
#1467 [07:27] <DiffrentManB> and guards have a lucky guess
#1468 [07:27] <DiffrentManB> xD
#1469 [07:27] <BlackMoon> guard comes by.. walks around for 30 seconds '...well, he must be gone now', puts away his sword, walks back to where he came from
#1470 [07:27] <DiffrentManB> lol.
#1471 [07:27] <BlackMoon> and acts like nothing ever happened.
#1472 [07:27] <DiffrentManB> that..
#1473 [07:27] <DiffrentManB> is awesome
#1474 [07:27] <BlackMoon> not even any more alert
#1475 [07:27] <DiffrentManB> I want to be like that dude
#1476 [07:27] <DiffrentManB> getting paid to do that XD
#1477 [07:27] <BlackMoon> thief2 once you alerted someone they would never calm down completely
#1478 [07:27] <DiffrentManB> makes sense.
#1479 [07:27] <DiffrentManB> btw.
#1480 [07:28] <DiffrentManB> anyway, blackmoon....
#1481 [07:28] <DiffrentManB> Get hamachi?
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#1483 [07:28] <DiffrentManB> And then host/join minecraft classic server? :D
#1484 [07:28] <BlackMoon> like they might go back to thier route after 5 mins of searching EVERYWHERE (not just up and down the LIT PATH), but they will keep thier sword out
#1485 [07:28] <BlackMoon> Don't have minecraft classic, just 1.5
#1486 [07:28] <BlackMoon> Just got into minecraft..
#1487 [07:28] <DiffrentManB> classic is on the website...
#1488 [07:28] <DiffrentManB> waiting to be used.
#1489 [07:28] <DiffrentManB> notch restored it
#1490 [07:28] <DiffrentManB> yaaaaay
#1491 [07:28] <BlackMoon> oh.
#1492 [07:28] <DiffrentManB> LOL
#1493 [07:28] <DiffrentManB> 206 seconds timeout
#1494 [07:29] <DiffrentManB> that is...
#1495 [07:29] <DiffrentManB> timeouty
#1496 [07:29] <DiffrentManB> Did you know the classic minecraft
#1497 [07:29] <DiffrentManB> is 50 times more optimised than survival sp
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#1499 [07:29] <DiffrentManB> adn mp that is latest right now
#1500 [07:29] <BlackMoon> Doesnt really matter to me on my PC
#1501 [07:29] <DiffrentManB> Short fog: 50 FPS on 256 MB ram, 1.1 GHz, NvidiaGeForce2 MX/MX 400 (Pc from 2000th)
#1502 [07:29] <DiffrentManB> on SP
#1503 [07:29] <DiffrentManB> Tiny Fog: 1 fps
#1504 [07:30] <DiffrentManB> like
#1505 [07:30] <DiffrentManB> srsly ._.
#1506 [07:30] <DiffrentManB> blackmoon, get hamachi? :D
#1507 [07:31] <BlackMoon> your gonna hate me.
#1508 [07:31] <DiffrentManB> why?
#1509 [07:31] <BlackMoon> longest range fog.. 1920x1080 fullscreen... 8x FSAA forced (I think its working) and 8x aniso
#1510 [07:31] <BlackMoon> 120fps
#1511 [07:31] <DiffrentManB> lol ok
#1512 [07:31] <DiffrentManB> 25565 is the port
#1513 [07:31] <BlackMoon> outside looking over hills.
#1514 [07:31] <DiffrentManB> apparently.
#1515 [07:32] <DiffrentManB> play.jsp?server=IP:25565 I think
#1516 [07:32] <BlackMoon> using 1.5 and a HD texture pack..
#1517 [07:32] <DiffrentManB> Faithful? :D
#1518 [07:32] <BlackMoon> Hu?
#1519 [07:32] <DiffrentManB> I use faithful 64x64)
#1520 [07:32] <DiffrentManB> smooth shading
#1521 [07:32] <DiffrentManB> farthest fog
#1522 [07:32] <DiffrentManB> a big screen too
#1523 [07:32] <DiffrentManB> fullscreen
#1524 [07:32] <DiffrentManB> and get 500 fps
#1525 [07:32] <DiffrentManB> lmao
#1526 [07:32] <BlackMoon> Iv got HD Infinity.
#1527 [07:33] <DiffrentManB> anyway
#1528 [07:33] <DiffrentManB> I hosted
#1529 [07:33] <DiffrentManB> get hamachi?
#1530 [07:33] <BlackMoon> no idea what that is
#1531 [07:33] <DiffrentManB> nnghh
#1532 [07:33] <DiffrentManB> brb
#1533 [07:33] <BlackMoon> Not too intrested in embarrassing myself in MP yet :P
#1534 [07:33] <DiffrentManB> http://hamachi.brothersoft.com/hamachi1.0.1.5 Leclique here
#1535 [07:33] <BlackMoon> or worse, getting chased by a creeper into someones base
#1536 [07:33] <DiffrentManB> um
#1537 [07:33] <DiffrentManB> This is CLASSIC
#1538 [07:33] <DiffrentManB> doesnt have mobs
#1539 [07:33] <DiffrentManB> its just building with infinite blocks
#1540 [07:34] <DiffrentManB> it isnt survival
#1541 [07:34] <DiffrentManB> its the one where you just build..
#1542 [07:34] <DiffrentManB> with just one song
#1543 [07:34] <DiffrentManB> xD
#1544 [07:34] <BlackMoon> Ok I don't wanna embarrass myself by not even knowing wtf classic is.
#1545 [07:34] <DiffrentManB> ..
#1546 [07:34] <DiffrentManB> You'll see
#1547 [07:34] <DiffrentManB> xD
#1548 [07:34] <DiffrentManB> Coem ooon
#1549 [07:34] <DiffrentManB> get hamachi
#1550 [07:34] <DiffrentManB> install it
#1551 [07:34] <DiffrentManB> D:
#1552 [07:34] <DiffrentManB> Hamachi is a tool that makes Lan-tunnels inbetween the users on one network.
#1553 [07:35] <DiffrentManB> It's basicly giving us IP's and letting us connect to eachother with them
#1554 [07:35] <DiffrentManB> through other applications such as minecraft, hl, garrysmod whatnot requrires IP
#1555 [07:35] <DiffrentManB> Requires *
#1556 [07:35] <DiffrentManB> *banned for spam**
#1557 [07:35] <DiffrentManB> BlackMoon, please.
#1558 [07:35] <BlackMoon> ... I allready have an IP
#1559 [07:35] <DiffrentManB> You won't embarass yourself.
#1560 [07:35] <DiffrentManB> It gives you a IP
#1561 [07:36] <DiffrentManB> a New one
#1562 [07:36] <DiffrentManB> Which is valid only inside the network on hamachi
#1563 [07:36] <DiffrentManB> Just incase your IP isnt static/real
#1564 [07:36] <DiffrentManB> Just Get hamachi D:
#1565 [07:37] <DiffrentManB> I'm waiting for you to install it so I can give you next steps.
#1566 [07:37] <DiffrentManB> You're gonna like it :)
#1567 [07:38] <DiffrentManB> blackmoon? D:
#1568 [07:38] <DiffrentManB> Lc
#1569 [07:38] <BlackMoon> Sorry just not intrested atm.
#1570 [07:38] <DiffrentManB> :c
#1571 [07:38] <DiffrentManB> Awww, whyyy..
#1572 [07:39] <DiffrentManB> It's fun and stuff.
#1573 [07:39] <BlackMoon> because im doing other stuff atm, and its like 4:30am
#1574 [07:39] <DiffrentManB> ...
#1575 [07:39] <DiffrentManB> Just a few minutes 3:
#1576 [07:39] <DiffrentManB> it's 2:39 PM here lol
#1577 [07:40] <DiffrentManB> Blackmoon, whatchu doing.. 3:
#1578 [07:41] <BlackMoon> looking at mods..
#1579 [07:42] <DiffrentManB> :(
#1580 [07:42] <BlackMoon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R-_vaPaKCM&feature=player_embedded lol minecraft with parallax mapping.
#1581 [07:43] <DiffrentManB> wats paralaxx mapping
#1582 [07:43] <DiffrentManB> very hd-ish
#1583 [07:44] <DiffrentManB> lol @ dirt
#1584 [07:44] <DiffrentManB> and chicken too
#1585 [07:44] <DiffrentManB> lol cacti
#1586 [07:44] <DiffrentManB> pumpkin too..
#1587 [07:44] <DiffrentManB> song is ftw
#1588 [07:44] <DiffrentManB> wood planks..
#1589 [07:44] <DiffrentManB> SO HL2 Like
#1590 [07:44] <DiffrentManB> birchwood...
#1591 [07:44] <DiffrentManB> wood.
#1592 [07:45] <BlackMoon> yea, lols.
#1593 [07:45] <DiffrentManB> lapis lazulis block.
#1594 [07:45] <DiffrentManB> gravel.
#1595 [07:45] <DiffrentManB> Iron block... Oh my
#1596 [07:45] <DiffrentManB> Leaves <3
#1597 [07:45] <BlackMoon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=301512&sid=091700bb22846b04d368dd363d7a14d4 I SERIOUSLY hope thats done via script
#1598 [07:45] <DiffrentManB> spawner ... Cannot unsee HL2
#1599 [07:45] <BlackMoon> else this dude has WAYYY too much time on his hands.
#1600 [07:46] <DiffrentManB> later one is true
#1601 [07:46] <DiffrentManB> lol..
#1602 [07:46] <BlackMoon> 'its comming right for us!* KABOOM* http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=301512&sid=091700bb22846b04d368dd363d7a14d4
#1603 [07:46] <DiffrentManB> the cd player cube
#1604 [07:46] <BlackMoon> err, http://img825.imageshack.us/i/linkn.png/
#1605 [07:46] <DiffrentManB> redstone?.. no.. what is that
#1606 [07:46] <DiffrentManB> OMGHSPONGE
#1607 [07:46] <DiffrentManB> Bricks..
#1608 [07:47] <DiffrentManB> CNANOT UNSEE HL2 BRICKS
#1609 [07:47] <DiffrentManB> Im getting thatm od... WHERE
#1610 [07:47] <DiffrentManB> mod.. I need.. that mega HD Mod..
#1611 [07:47] <DiffrentManB> lol wool.
#1612 [07:47] <DiffrentManB> glass is also <3
#1613 [07:47] <BlackMoon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=207996 it was in the discription
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#1615 [07:48] <DiffrentManB> THE QUALITY
#1616 [07:48] <DiffrentManB> IT BUUUURNNSS
#1617 [07:48] <DiffrentManB> dispencer is also <3
#1618 [07:48] <DiffrentManB> slabs... oh my
#1619 [07:48] <DiffrentManB> gold caches.. also <3
#1620 [07:48] <DiffrentManB> lapis lazulis ore
#1621 [07:48] <DiffrentManB> reedstoone ore <3
#1622 [07:48] <DiffrentManB> ..... Wow so HD
#1623 [07:49] <DiffrentManB> notch is SO including that :D
#1624 [07:49] <BlackMoon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0_TMBirmWU&NR=1&feature=fvwp Nice stress test.
#1625 [07:49] <DiffrentManB> .. the bookcase.
#1626 [07:49] <DiffrentManB> mobs 384
#1627 [07:49] <DiffrentManB> LOL
#1628 [07:49] <BlackMoon> Even for sprites thats impressive.
#1629 [07:49] <BlackMoon> no thats not the test.
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#1631 [07:49] <DiffrentManB> so many .. sprites
#1632 [07:49] <DiffrentManB> 16k mobs woah
#1633 [07:49] <DiffrentManB> MY GOD SO MANY
#1634 [07:50] <DiffrentManB> the skybox..
#1635 [07:50] <DiffrentManB> This is gmod with that minecraft addon right?
#1636 [07:50] <DiffrentManB> ... What is that metal grate.
#1637 [07:50] <DiffrentManB> cobblestone and mossy cobblestone.
#1638 [07:50] <DiffrentManB> I want this mod.
#1639 [07:50] <DiffrentManB> o,o
#1640 [07:51] <DiffrentManB> THIS IS SO LIKE HL2 D:
#1641 [07:51] <BlackMoon> DiffrentManB: eh?
#1642 [07:51] <BlackMoon> the first youtube video was GLSL for minecraft
#1643 [07:51] <DiffrentManB> some mega HD Mod
#1644 [07:51] <DiffrentManB> o-o
#1645 [07:51] <BlackMoon> the second was some other game.
#1646 [07:51] <DiffrentManB> THE GLSL
#1647 [07:51] <DiffrentManB> FOR MINECRAFt
#1648 [07:51] <DiffrentManB> GUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwait
#1649 [07:51] <DiffrentManB> what was the other game with the lots of
#1650 [07:52] <DiffrentManB> ...
#1651 [07:52] <DiffrentManB> what?
#1652 [07:52] <DiffrentManB> the sprites?
#1653 [07:52] <DiffrentManB> the mobs thing?
#1654 [07:52] <DiffrentManB> what game was that then
#1655 [07:52] <DiffrentManB> WHERE DO IGET THAT GLSL FOR MC
#1656 [07:52] <DiffrentManB> D:
#1657 [07:52] <DiffrentManB> IS IT 1.5?! D:
#1658 [07:52] <DiffrentManB> woops caps
#1659 [07:52] <DiffrentManB> I never imagined.... minecraft
#1660 [07:52] <DiffrentManB> could have glsl o,o
#1661 [07:52] <BlackMoon> yes
#1662 [07:52] <BlackMoon> I allready gave you the url for it.
#1663 [07:53] <BlackMoon> mobs was from forrestcraft
#1664 [07:53] <BlackMoon> appears to be a minecraft ripoff that isent nearly as advanced yet
#1665 [07:53] <DiffrentManB> lol..
#1666 [07:53] <DiffrentManB> you did? WHERE D:
#1667 [07:53] <BlackMoon> but has a few things it does better graphics
#1668 [07:53] <BlackMoon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=207996 it was in the discription
#1669 [07:53] <Morrolan> Hey, don't start the Fortresscraft discussion again please, saw that too often. ;)
#1670 [07:53] <BlackMoon> mainly the water.
#1671 [07:53] <BlackMoon> Morrolan: well tell the GLSL dude to get started on shiny wavy water :)
#1672 [07:54] <DiffrentManB> wuts forestcraft.
#1673 [07:54] <BlackMoon> oh no wait thats the wrong url.
#1674 [07:54] <DiffrentManB> i found it
#1675 [07:54] <DiffrentManB> anyways
#1676 [07:54] <Morrolan> DiffrentManB: A game inspired by Minecraft for Xbob 360
#1677 [07:54] <Morrolan> Xbox*
#1678 [07:54] <DiffrentManB> OH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
#1679 [07:54] <DiffrentManB> How do I install this
#1680 [07:54] <DiffrentManB> Why is it exploded into so many links
#1681 [07:54] <BlackMoon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=128043 minecraft GLSL
#1682 [07:55] <BlackMoon> lol at rapidpro trying to sign me up for FASTER DOWNLOADS.. of a 5k file
#1683 [07:55] <DiffrentManB> i know
#1684 [07:55] <DiffrentManB> llol
#1685 [07:55] <DiffrentManB> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/screenshot20110108at101.png/
#1686 [07:55] <DiffrentManB> .... Cannot unsee cube2: sauerbraten
#1687 [07:56] <BlackMoon> ?
#1688 [07:57] <DiffrentManB> many bricks
#1689 [07:57] <DiffrentManB> were shat
#1690 [07:57] <BlackMoon> Don't get it?
#1691 [07:57] <DiffrentManB> I do
#1692 [07:57] <BlackMoon> wtf am I even downloading lol its 23megs.
#1693 [07:58] <DiffrentManB> DISTORTION MINECRAFt
#1694 [07:58] <DiffrentManB> OH GOD
#1695 [07:58] <BlackMoon> distortion?
#1696 [07:58] <DiffrentManB> in the link you gave me
#1697 [07:58] <DiffrentManB> switch to end
#1698 [07:58] <DiffrentManB> look for a video called Distortion minecraft
#1699 [07:58] <DiffrentManB> thingy
#1700 [07:58] <DiffrentManB> oh god.
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#1702 [07:58] <DiffrentManB> so trippy
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#1704 [07:58] <DiffrentManB> http://www.youtube.cohttp://www.youtube.com/v/IUIEkDwws7w
#1705 [07:59] <DiffrentManB> <object width="640" height="390"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/IUIEkDwws7w&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/IUIEkDwws7w&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3" type="applica
#1706 [07:59] <DiffrentManB> fuckit
#1707 [07:59] <BlackMoon> ahahaha awsome
#1708 [07:59] <DiffrentManB> Trippy
#1709 [07:59] <DiffrentManB> xD
#1710 [07:59] <BlackMoon> thats what should happen after eating shrooms you find on the ground. :)
#1711 [07:59] <DiffrentManB> xD
#1712 [07:59] <DiffrentManB> yeah\
#1713 [07:59] <DiffrentManB> notch should add that too
#1714 [08:00] <DiffrentManB> heals 1/2 heart
#1715 [08:00] <DiffrentManB> does that after 2-5 shrooms
#1716 [08:00] <DiffrentManB> xD
#1717 [08:00] <DiffrentManB> XD
#1718 [08:00] <DiffrentManB> Theres just so many possibilities
#1719 [08:00] <DiffrentManB> with this new stuff I found
#1720 [08:00] <DiffrentManB> I thoght minecraft is updated as much as it can be.
#1721 [08:01] <DiffrentManB> This means we can make a engine
#1722 [08:01] <BlackMoon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bir9qbJJXg&feature=related not a mod but ideas..
#1723 [08:01] <DiffrentManB> Like hl2
#1724 [08:01] <DiffrentManB> REMAKE HL2
#1725 [08:01] <DiffrentManB> WITH DESTRUCTABLE TERRAIN @_@
#1726 [08:01] <BlackMoon> hehe
#1727 [08:01] <DiffrentManB> woah nice island.
#1728 [08:01] <BlackMoon> ever played red faction?
#1729 [08:01] <DiffrentManB> i dont see anything special so far.
#1730 [08:01] <DiffrentManB> Uhh no
#1731 [08:01] <DiffrentManB> the blocks... THEY LOOK SO SHINY
#1732 [08:01] <DiffrentManB> and cuby
#1733 [08:01] <BlackMoon> You can pick apart every single last building with your sledge hammer, or explosives.. cars, etc.
#1734 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> lol..
#1735 [08:02] <BlackMoon> Companion cubes!
#1736 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> the ore...
#1737 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> is awesome.
#1738 [08:02] <BlackMoon> You have seen the portal mod right?
#1739 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> oh god lava
#1740 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> Seen yes
#1741 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> makes portals and teleports
#1742 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> just like in portal
#1743 [08:02] <BlackMoon> WTF
#1744 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> lol
#1745 [08:02] <BlackMoon> god (#)*()&#)&)@@#
#1746 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> ?
#1747 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> what what what
#1748 [08:02] <BlackMoon> rapidshare is making me wait 4:30 for a 5k file
#1749 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> L O L
#1750 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> the one for that HD Mod? XD
#1751 [08:02] <BlackMoon> its wasted 20x this bandwidth in the images its displaying on this waste of bandwidth it calls a waiting page.
#1752 [08:02] <DiffrentManB> Made me wait 50 seconds
#1753 [08:02] <BlackMoon> part of it I think.
#1754 [08:03] <DiffrentManB> lol
#1755 [08:03] <DiffrentManB> ah fuck
#1756 [08:03] <DiffrentManB> do you hear me ?
#1757 [08:03] <BlackMoon> ...?
#1758 [08:03] <DiffrentManB> nvm
#1759 [08:03] <DiffrentManB> internet poofed..
#1760 [08:03] <DiffrentManB> Affects only browser stuff..
#1761 [08:03] <DiffrentManB> This isnt based that way I guess
#1762 [08:03] <DiffrentManB> ok..
#1763 [08:04] <DiffrentManB> Patcher..
#1764 [08:04] <DiffrentManB> shadeers..
#1765 [08:04] <BlackMoon> maintains a connection, so failures like DNS won't affect current sessions
#1766 [08:04] <DiffrentManB> balea..
#1767 [08:04] <DiffrentManB> It's all here C:
#1768 [08:04] <BlackMoon> Im allways amazed when I throw like 20 mods at a game, and it doesnt just blow up
#1769 [08:04] <BlackMoon> and its like, actualy stable and somewhat cohearant
#1770 [08:04] <DiffrentManB> lol.
#1771 [08:04] <DiffrentManB> XD
#1772 [08:04] <BlackMoon> Morrowind/oblivion/fallout was great for that.
#1773 [08:04] <DiffrentManB> XDD
#1774 [08:05] <DiffrentManB> gmod
#1775 [08:05] <DiffrentManB> isnt great for that
#1776 [08:05] <BlackMoon> I think Iv had like, 30+ mods on each of those games running at once before
#1777 [08:05] <DiffrentManB> one addon is enough to fuck it
#1778 [08:05] <DiffrentManB> Gmod! PHX Pack!
#1779 [08:05] <BlackMoon> You really have to be built for modding.
#1780 [08:05] <DiffrentManB> 2 days later: Crashes every 2th hour
#1781 [08:05] <BlackMoon> (the game that is)
#1782 [08:05] <DiffrentManB> 2nd *
#1783 [08:05] <DiffrentManB> lol 2th
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#1785 [08:05] <DiffrentManB> i kno
#1786 [08:05] <DiffrentManB> lol
#1787 [08:05] <DiffrentManB> HELLO EVERYSTAT
#1788 [08:06] <everystat> hi
#1789 [08:06] <DiffrentManB> he is chatting? Impossi--
#1790 [08:06] <DiffrentManB> Hi
#1791 [08:06] <BlackMoon> less caps/lines please.
#1792 [08:06] <everystat> :P
#1793 [08:06] <DiffrentManB> FINe :C
#1794 [08:06] <DiffrentManB> It's just two words anyway..
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#1796 [08:06] <BlackMoon> the scroll is hard to keep up with.
#1797 [08:06] <DiffrentManB> wait...
#1798 [08:06] <DiffrentManB> fffff..
#1799 [08:06] <DiffrentManB> there are 4 Files
#1800 [08:06] <DiffrentManB> Shaders - Balea's shaders
#1801 [08:06] <DiffrentManB> MCPatcher - HiRes Textures
#1802 [08:06] <DiffrentManB> I have 3
#1803 [08:07] <DiffrentManB> where's the 4th one fffuuu
#1804 [08:07] <everystat> Can someone help me with a problem?
#1805 [08:07] <DiffrentManB> Sure
#1806 [08:07] <DiffrentManB> Bring it :B
#1807 [08:08] <everystat> When I try logging on to a server it just says "Connecting.." and nothing further happens, what to do?
#1808 [08:08] <DiffrentManB> It's probably down.
#1809 [08:08] <DiffrentManB> Or you cannot connect to it due to your ISP
#1810 [08:08] <everystat> No it isn't
#1811 [08:08] <everystat> ISP?
#1812 [08:08] <DiffrentManB> Internet Service Provider.
#1813 [08:08] <DiffrentManB> The one giving you internet.
#1814 [08:08] <DiffrentManB> Have you entered it before?
#1815 [08:08] <everystat> But I was always able to connect to the server
#1816 [08:08] <everystat> Yes
#1817 [08:08] <DiffrentManB> And have you experienced this some time ago?
#1818 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't mean the admin can't shut it down
#1819 [08:08] <everystat> Never before.
#1820 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> everystat - Try smp.shadow-craft.net
#1821 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> If you can connect to that, it's not your client
#1822 [08:09] <DiffrentManB> It's either down right now, or your ISP is having technical difficulties / or their server has ones.
#1823 [08:09] <everystat> But now Im not talking about Beta but Classic sorry for the misunderstanding =P
#1824 [08:09] <DiffrentManB> even worse
#1825 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> everystat - Ah, then is the server listed in the server list?
#1826 [08:09] <everystat> Yes
#1827 [08:10] <DiffrentManB> It could be down
#1828 [08:10] <DiffrentManB> the list lies
#1829 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> Right now everystat?
#1830 [08:10] <everystat> It isnt there are 22 ppl in it
#1831 [08:10] <DiffrentManB> or your ISP hates their country
#1832 [08:10] <BlackMoon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=282152 More fun.
#1833 [08:10] <everystat> :P
#1834 [08:10] <DiffrentManB> servers can have 1337/2 players
#1835 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> everystat - What's the classic server's name
#1836 [08:10] <everystat> WoM: Realms
#1837 [08:11] <everystat> This server can have 1024 ppl :3
#1838 [08:11] <DiffrentManB> that mod is ftw
#1839 [08:11] <DiffrentManB> Also that dude is ftw
#1840 [08:11] <DiffrentManB> He rode the wave
#1841 [08:11] <DiffrentManB> put a boat
#1842 [08:11] <DiffrentManB> and rode it
#1843 [08:11] <DiffrentManB> so fast and slick... Liek a boss.
#1844 [08:12] <everystat> :P
#1845 [08:12] <everystat> whaha
#1846 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, the server works for me
#1847 [08:12] <everystat> Strange
#1848 [08:12] <everystat> Ill try re-connecting
#1849 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> everystat - Try http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=f5cfd6551819e9ee2cf1cd84d28377df ?
#1850 [08:12] <everystat> Ok it works =)
#1851 [08:13] <BlackMoon> holy wave
#1852 [08:13] <everystat> I like the WoM client =)
#1853 [08:13] <BlackMoon> I wonder if you can get a flood from making a 1 wide hole now.. or if you could before
#1854 [08:14] <DiffrentManB> you can
#1855 [08:14] <DiffrentManB> sorta
#1856 [08:14] <DiffrentManB> lol
#1857 [08:14] <DiffrentManB> it allways spreaded down, and sideways
#1858 [08:14] <DiffrentManB> +
#1859 [08:14] <DiffrentManB> ok
#1860 [08:14] <DiffrentManB> FiniteLiquid V2
#1861 [08:14] <DiffrentManB> and theese Balea and shaders
#1862 [08:14] <DiffrentManB> @_@
#1863 [08:15] <BlackMoon> yea by time your done talking to me you'll be soo busy installing and figuring out what mods conflict with what other mods you'll have no time to play at all.
#1864 [08:16] <BlackMoon> By time you get it working you'll have no intrest in playing and will have to consider the 4 hours spent to get it to work as the gameplay itself.
#1865 [08:17] <DiffrentManB> lol.
#1866 [08:17] <DiffrentManB> lies.
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#1869 [08:21] <BlackMoon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=294921&sid=091700bb22846b04d368dd363d7a14d4 mmm glasscraft. that could be good.
#1870 [08:22] <TheNytangel> I didn't know ghasts dropped gunpowder..
#1871 [08:23] <BlackMoon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Ud9esotDU&feature=player_embedded Gotta love that portal demo still :)
#1872 [08:23] <Morrolan> He's using caps on every word, geez. :D
#1873 [08:23] <BlackMoon> skip to :25 for awsomeness.
#1874 [08:24] <Morrolan> Apart from that it looks neat.
#1875 [08:24] <Morrolan> Glass biome. :D
#1876 [08:24] <BlackMoon> yea I thought the glass biome was a bit much.
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#1878 [08:25] <BlackMoon> mmmm theres an intresting thought.. to bad it would'nt really work
#1879 [08:25] <BlackMoon> Portal world generator!
#1880 [08:25] <BlackMoon> Just thousands and thousands of endless test chambers, minecraft/portal hybrid style.
#1881 [08:25] <Necrodoom> portal world editor pretty much
#1882 [08:26] <BlackMoon> nah I was thinking proceeduraly generated
#1883 [08:26] <BlackMoon> you can download user made test chambers for portal1 btw, map editor for portal 2 is nodoubt on the way
#1884 [08:26] <BlackMoon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAxHxpm2K4g&feature=related hahaha nice.
#1885 [08:31] <DiffrentManB> gbaii\
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#1887 [08:42] <BlackMoon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=106950 I vote this WTF mod of the year.
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#1890 [08:46] <Glitch> hi all, just bought the game, downloaded the .exe and when I run it, nothing happens
#1891 [08:48] <Glitch> can anyone help me please?
#1892 [08:49] <Morrolan> Glitch: Which OS are you on?
#1893 [08:50] <Glitch> Windows 7
#1894 [08:50] <Morrolan> Uh, I've seen this happen before, but I can't seem to remember what caused this. :/
#1895 [08:50] <Morrolan> You do have Java installed?
#1896 [08:50] <Glitch> yeah
#1897 [08:51] <Glitch> I can play it through my browser
#1898 [08:51] <Morrolan> Bah, I advise you to hang around a bit here, one of the others will most likely know the solution, sorry.
#1899 [08:51] <Glitch> wait its loaded
#1900 [08:52] <Morrolan> Loaded? In the browser, or did the exe work now?
#1901 [08:52] <Glitch> the .exe just loaded lolz
#1902 [08:52] <Morrolan> Haha. XD
#1903 [08:52] <Glitch> madness
#1904 [08:52] <Glitch> I watched a youtube vid b4 that said u can explore content other people have made
#1905 [08:53] <Glitch> like one giant world
#1906 [08:53] <Glitch> is that in singleplayer?
#1907 [08:53] <Morrolan> Well, if you download a wordl from somewhere then you can play it in Singleplayer, yes.
#1908 [08:53] <Morrolan> world*
#1909 [08:53] <Glitch> what would you recommend?
#1910 [08:53] <Morrolan> Hmm?
#1911 [08:53] <BlackMoon> Glitch: Its not automagicly linked
#1912 [08:54] <Morrolan> Like, some nice stuff others have made?
#1913 [08:54] <BlackMoon> Only online games do you actualy explore what other people are activly making
#1914 [08:54] <BlackMoon> (or abanonded)
#1915 [08:54] <Glitch> what servers you guys using?
#1916 [08:54] <Morrolan> A little private one.
#1917 [08:54] <Glitch> i'd rather use a decent one with no idiots there
#1918 [08:54] <BlackMoon> I havent played online yet... more just learning and going modcrazy.
#1919 [08:54] <Glitch> sweet
#1920 [08:54] <Morrolan> If you need a server you could check one of the available serverlists:
#1921 [08:55] <Morrolan> ?? smp/servers
#1922 [08:55] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1923 [08:55] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1924 [08:55] <Morrolan> It can be hard to find a decent one at first though. :/
#1925 [08:55] <Glitch> Blackmoon, can u PM me any mods you recommend?
#1926 [08:55] <BlackMoon> heh, No gamespy for minecraft yet? :P
#1927 [08:55] <Morrolan> Lol, if it had GameSpy I'd throw Minecraft in the nearest bin.
#1928 [08:56] <BlackMoon> Glitch: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods I started here.
#1929 [08:56] <BlackMoon> Iv got.. pistons, recipe book, shelf, toggleblocks, grapple hook, elemental arrows 4.0, floodgate...
#1930 [08:57] <BlackMoon> Audiomod, guiapi, modloader (for supporting those and other mods), and the HD texture enabler...
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#1932 [08:57] <BlackMoon> Sign tags, more stackables.. magic chest...
#1933 [08:57] <BlackMoon> some of these need theres settings adjusted to work togethor.
#1934 [08:57] <BlackMoon> And iv got about a dozen more mods iv downloaded and need to sort through and see how they interact..
#1935 [08:58] <BlackMoon> No idea if all those mods listed are truely compatable either, but minecraft seems to still run with em all.
#1936 [08:58] <Glitch> sweet
#1937 [08:58] <Andy-chan> I wish I could use modloader on SMP...
#1938 [08:58] <Andy-chan> There are a few mods there that I would like to have in my SMP.
#1939 [08:58] <BlackMoon> Then theres like a few dozen weirdo mods that I havent tryed yet because they are rather complex and incompatable with other stuff (I suspect)
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#1941 [08:59] <BlackMoon> Tryed to get steamcraft working.. it did'nt want to.
#1942 [08:59] <BlackMoon> plasmacraft worked...
#1943 [08:59] <BlackMoon> then theres graphics upgrade mods (texture packs, glsl mod), elevators, sponges, PORTAL GUN FROM PORTAL!, guns, etc.
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#1945 [09:01] <Glitch> omg its slow when running it on my PC
#1946 [09:02] <BlackMoon> yea im not one to ask about that.
#1947 [09:02] <BlackMoon> GTX295's don't run ANYTHING slow. Not even the fan!
#1948 [09:02] <BlackMoon> Especialy not the fan...
#1949 [09:02] <BlackMoon> Anyone want to buy a small turbojet engine that doubles as a GPU cooler?
#1950 [09:02] <Glitch> lols
#1951 [09:02] <GreyVulpine> Heh
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#1954 [09:05] <Bloodngore> is anyone here who can offer support=?
#1955 [09:05] <Bloodngore> having a problem connecting to any server
#1956 [09:06] <Morrolan> Sure, what exatly do you get?
#1957 [09:07] <Bloodngore> well
#1958 [09:07] <Bloodngore> whenever i try to connect to a server
#1959 [09:07] <Bloodngore> it gives me the error java exception: yadayadayada - connection reset
#1960 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> Bloodngore - Try smp.shadow-craft.net
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#1962 [09:09] <shapeshifter_ex> KEALPER!
#1963 [09:09] <shapeshifter_ex> help me im stuck D=
#1964 [09:09] <Morrolan> Uh, I guess he's sleeping atm?
#1965 [09:09] <shapeshifter_ex> aww =[
#1966 [09:09] <NotiCon> shapeshifter_ex: ask Morrolan
#1967 [09:10] <Morrolan> If he's the only one who can help you you'll have to try it again in like, three or four hours or so.
#1968 [09:10] <Morrolan> NotiCon: Oh, thanks... :p
#1969 [09:10] <NotiCon> xD
#1970 [09:10] <Bloodngore> smp.shadow-craft.net is the IP?
#1971 [09:10] <shapeshifter_ex> lol i just has a problem getting an error message when i try and connect to my server
#1972 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> Bloodngore - yes
#1973 [09:10] <Morrolan> Bloorngore: Yep.
#1974 [09:10] <Bloodngore> well still connection reset
#1975 [09:10] <BlackMoon> So what kind of minecraft homes do you guys like to make?
#1976 [09:11] <Glitch> i wanna guild a castle
#1977 [09:11] <Glitch> with dungeons etc
#1978 [09:11] <Bloodngore> Internal exception: java.net.Socketexception: Connection reset
#1979 [09:11] <BlackMoon> I like to dig into the top of mountians, leaving as much natural blocks as I can (even if my roof ends up being dirt because I did'nt start deep enough)
#1980 [09:11] <shapeshifter_ex> morrolan any ideas...?
#1981 [09:11] <Bloodngore> any1 got any idias?
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#1983 [09:11] <Morrolan> shapeshifter_ex: Euhm, what exactly is your problem?
#1984 [09:11] <Glitch> Blood, we should play together
#1985 [09:12] <Bloodngore> well once i get to join ANY online server then sure
#1986 [09:12] <shapeshifter_ex> giveing me an error when i try to connect
#1987 [09:12] <Glitch> hmm
#1988 [09:12] <Bloodngore> but thats why i'm here. Anyone can help?
#1989 [09:12] <Glitch> ill try and create one
#1990 [09:12] <Morrolan> shapeshifter: And what error?
#1991 [09:12] <shapeshifter_ex> one sec
#1992 [09:12] <Morrolan> Bloodngore: GreyVulpine will take care of you, no worries. ;)
#1993 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> Bloodngore - Hmm, most likely, you have a firewall or something that is blocking java/minecraft from connecting
#1994 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure that server is up
#1995 [09:14] <Bloodngore> i'll turn firewall of and try then
#1996 [09:14] <Bloodngore> and antivirus
#1997 [09:14] <shapeshifter_ex> login:<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
#1998 [09:14] <Morrolan> Shapeshifter: And this happens when you connect to a server?
#1999 [09:14] <shapeshifter_ex> thats all i can see atm
#2000 [09:14] <shapeshifter_ex> yes
#2001 [09:14] <Morrolan> But login works fine?
#2002 [09:14] <Bloodngore> GreyVulpine: my firewall was off when i tried allready
#2003 [09:15] <Morrolan> shapeshifter: That's strange.
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#2005 [09:15] <shapeshifter_ex> yea when i regulaRLY logg in it dosnent do anything but when i connect
#2006 [09:15] <shapeshifter_ex> well im also trying to play at school
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#2008 [09:16] <shapeshifter_ex> afk
#2009 [09:16] <Bloodngore> Greyvulpine: Would you be willing to try to work out the problem yourself via Team viewer? it would be much much apreciated
#2010 [09:16] <Morrolan> shapeshifter: Does this happen only with your server, or with any?
#2011 [09:17] <Morrolan> And if it happens with any sever, could it be that something is blocking Java?
#2012 [09:17] <shapeshifter_ex> any
#2013 [09:17] <shapeshifter_ex> its my own computewr
#2014 [09:17] <shapeshifter_ex> and i gotta go right now i will be bak soon
#2015 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> Bloodngore - Sorry, I'm about to head off right now..
#2016 [09:17] <Bloodngore> Okay np. Morrolan maybe?
#2017 [09:18] <Morrolan> Uhm, my experience with errors like this is really limited.
#2018 [09:18] <Bloodngore> understandable
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#2020 [09:18] <Morrolan> Might want to stay in this channel for a bit, could be that somenoe else has an idea.
#2021 [09:18] <Morrolan> someone"
#2022 [09:19] <Bloodngore> i will stay on
#2023 [09:19] <Bloodngore> fyi i get the same error trying to connect to my own server made with minecraft server.exe and using localhost:25565
#2024 [09:20] <Morrolan> :/
#2025 [09:21] <Bloodngore> So for everyone to read: Upon trying to connect to any server (even confirmed online servers) i get the error Internal exception: java.net.Socketexception: Connection reset
#2026 [09:22] <Bloodngore> Windows firewall is turned off
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#2029 [09:25] <BlackMoon> Bloodngore: tryed rebooting?
#2030 [09:25] <BlackMoon> yea, it doesnt fix stuff very often, but you sure feel better wasteing a reboot then wasteing 5 hours trying everything, riping your system apart, only to realise it just needed a reboot.
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#2047 [10:21] <Steve[cug]> morning everyone
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#2054 [10:43] <everystat> Hi all
#2055 [10:46] <everystat> I have a problem
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#2057 [10:46] <everystat> Can anyone help me?
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#2063 [10:55] <everystat13> I need help =(
#2064 [10:56] <everystat13> I cant connect to any Classic server =(
#2065 [10:57] <Morrolan> What happens if you try to conenct?
#2066 [10:58] <everystat13> It says 'Connecting..' and it just freezes
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#2068 [11:00] <everystat13> What do I do =(
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#2070 [11:02] <Morrolan> Hmm. ./
#2071 [11:02] <Morrolan> Could it be that your security software or firewall is blocking Minecraft?
#2072 [11:03] <everystat13> I'm very sure it isn't
#2073 [11:03] <Morrolan> Ok.
#2074 [11:03] <NotiCon> everystat13: when did it last work?
#2075 [11:03] <Morrolan> I assume it happens with every server? And did it, oh.
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#2077 [11:03] <Tetyys> Hello
#2078 [11:03] <Morrolan> Hey Tetyys
#2079 [11:03] <everystat13> The last time it worked was 2 hrs ago.
#2080 [11:04] <NotiCon> what changed since then?
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#2082 [11:04] <everystat13> It freezes when trying to connect
#2083 [11:04] <Morrolan> NotiCon: Does the classic client download files as well? If yes, where are they?
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#2085 [11:05] <everystat13> What do I do I have an appointment :(
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#2087 [11:07] <Morrolan> everystart: How about answering the questions first? a) Does it happen on ever server? b) Did you install anything since it worked for the last time?
#2088 [11:07] <everystat13> a) Yes. b) No.
#2089 [11:08] <Morrolan> Ok.
#2090 [11:08] <everystat13> Oh now not anymore on every server.
#2091 [11:09] <Morrolan> Oh.
#2092 [11:09] <Morrolan> It could be that some servers are just overloaded or too far away then, so it times out.. :/
#2093 [11:09] <everystat13> But on the one server I want to play it doesn't work =(
#2094 [11:10] <everystat13> It can handle 1024 people :/
#2095 [11:10] <Morrolan> Whoa.
#2096 [11:10] <everystat13> Yes.
#2097 [11:10] <everystat13> And it has liek 15 in it i believe.
#2098 [11:11] <everystat13> 8 -.-
#2099 [11:11] <everystat13> maybe more ppl have the problem
#2100 [11:11] <Morrolan> the WOM server?
#2101 [11:11] <NotiCon> Morrolan: no idea never played classic
#2102 [11:11] <everystat13> WoM: Realms yes
#2103 [11:11] <Morrolan> NotiCon: Ok.
#2104 [11:12] <everystat13> Now I gtg
#2105 [11:12] <Morrolan> everystat: I can't connect either.
#2106 [11:12] <everystat13> I'll e-mail the guy we meet up tomorrow
#2107 [11:12] <everystat13> Oh then it's not me =)
#2108 [11:12] <everystat13> They said they would remove some oversized worlds today... maybe that includes chat realm :D
#2109 [11:12] <everystat13> Ty for helping!
#2110 [11:13] <everystat13> bye!
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#2113 [11:19] <Morrolan> Yeah, they seem to have messed up: http://www.worldofminecraft.com/node/18083
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#2116 [11:23] <Valdred> I need help with setting up a server
#2117 [11:23] <Valdred> via ssh
#2118 [11:23] <Valdred> I am using wget
#2119 [11:24] <Valdred> but it gives me a weird error
#2120 [11:24] <Valdred> it says it cant be verified locally
#2121 [11:24] <Valdred> or something
#2122 [11:24] <Morrolan> Sorry, can't help you with that, you'll have to wait for a Linux guy.
#2123 [11:24] <Valdred> There are no linux people in here?
#2124 [11:24] <Morrolan> Yes, there are.
#2125 [11:24] <Morrolan> But I'm not one of them.
#2126 [11:24] <Valdred> I could switch to another OS though
#2127 [11:24] <Valdred> centos?
#2128 [11:25] <Valdred> fedora?
#2129 [11:25] <Valdred> debian
#2130 [11:25] <Valdred> gentoo
#2131 [11:25] <Valdred> opensuse
#2132 [11:25] <Valdred> slackware
#2133 [11:25] <Valdred> ubuntu
#2134 [11:25] <Morrolan> Heh, that won't work, I'm not familiar with anything using a Linux kernel.
#2135 [11:25] <Valdred> none?
#2136 [11:25] <Valdred> ok then
#2137 [11:25] <Valdred> Anyone else?
#2138 [11:25] <Morrolan> But just wait some minutes, someone will be able to help you. ;)
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#2140 [11:26] * Kealper rawrs
#2140 [11:27] <Valdred> wapy?
#2141 [11:27] <Valdred> you can help?
#2142 [11:27] <Valdred> Kealper?
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#2144 [11:27] <Kealper> uhh...wut?
#2145 [11:27] <Kealper> i just woke up
#2146 [11:27] <Valdred> Could you help me with a minecraft server installment?
#2147 [11:27] <Valdred> ssh linux
#2148 [11:27] <Valdred> wget produces an error
#2149 [11:28] <Kealper> what error?
#2150 [11:28] <Valdred> "Can't be verified locally"
#2151 [11:28] <Valdred> and a bunch of stuff
#2152 [11:28] <Valdred> one sec
#2153 [11:28] <Kealper> O.o
#2154 [11:28] <Morrolan> Use pastebin.com
#2155 [11:28] <Kealper> ^
#2156 [11:28] <Morrolan> If you paste it here you'll get muted by AuBot. :D
#2157 [11:28] <Valdred> hmm ok
#2158 [11:29] <Valdred> http://pastebin.com/uLmu2xSV
#2159 [11:29] <Kealper> Valdred: your server's time is probably off
#2160 [11:30] <Valdred> huh?
#2161 [11:30] <Kealper> it's system clock
#2162 [11:30] <Valdred> oh
#2163 [11:30] <Valdred> how do I fix that?
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#2165 [11:30] <Kealper> uhh....what distro is it? because you can probably just install "ntpd" and that'll fix it :/
#2166 [11:31] <Valdred> Archlinux 2010.05 x86_64 (64bit)
#2167 [11:31] <Kealper> Arch \o/
#2168 [11:31] <Valdred> What would I write, 1 @|\/| @ |\|00|8 (I am a noob)
#2169 [11:32] <Kealper> pacman -S ntp
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#2171 [11:32] <Valdred> error, pastebin upcoming
#2172 [11:32] <Kealper> you did that as root, right?
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#2174 [11:32] <Valdred> yeah
#2175 [11:33] <Valdred> http://pastebin.com/tYUHscFS
#2176 [11:34] <Kealper> hmm...
#2177 [11:34] <Kealper> type hwclock in and see if i knows what that command is
#2178 [11:35] <Valdred> Cannot access the Hardware Clock via any known method.
#2179 [11:35] <Valdred> Use the --debug option to see the details of our search for an access method.
#2180 [11:35] <Kealper> the heck...
#2181 [11:36] <Kealper> is this your server or someone else's?
#2182 [11:36] <Valdred> mine
#2183 [11:36] <Valdred> my vps
#2184 [11:36] <Valdred> bought it friday got it today
#2185 [11:37] <Kealper> well...what address were you using to wget that file?
#2186 [11:37] <Kealper> it was an https:// one, right?
#2187 [11:37] <Valdred> nope
#2188 [11:37] <Valdred> :P
#2189 [11:37] <Valdred> that made me wonder too
#2190 [11:37] <Kealper> really? well.what the heck
#2191 [11:37] <Valdred> http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar?v=1304951216896
#2192 [11:37] <Kealper> bah.....hold on
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#2194 [11:38] <Kealper> take this next bit to PM
#2195 [11:38] <Valdred> personal message?
#2196 [11:38] <Kealper> yeah
#2197 [11:38] <Valdred> ok
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#2201 [11:39] <implord> hello
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#2203 [11:39] <Morrolan> Hey implord
#2204 [11:39] <ellisgeek> hi
#2205 [11:40] <implord> i have a small problem and dont know how to fix, if i can. i built a house, fully enclosed, and when i sleep at night in the bed, baddies spawn and attack me in the house.. lol
#2206 [11:40] <Morrolan> And hey ellisgeek as well ^^
#2207 [11:40] <Morrolan> implord: Yea, beds are bugged. There are some things you can do to make it less annoying though:
#2208 [11:41] <Sooi11> !check 178.117.84.199
#2209 [11:41] <implord> AHh okay.. lol.. here i thought they really didnt like me
#2210 [11:41] <ellisgeek> remove all grass and light your house also make walls 2 blocks thick
#2211 [11:41] <Morrolan> a) Make sure that the bed is i) Not right next to a wall, or, if it is, make sure that the walls are two thick, as ellis said.
#2212 [11:41] <Morrolan> Oh, and you could light the caves below your house, I heard that this helps as well.
#2213 [11:41] <implord> okay.. makes sense.. i usually make my home in a mountain deep inside, not out in the open
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#2215 [11:42] <Sooi11> Any ideas why my server doesnt work, I did everything right i know that for sure still doesnt work
#2216 [11:43] <implord> whats it doing?
#2217 [11:43] <Morrolan> Sooi11: Oh, you were here yesterday already?
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#2219 [11:43] <Kealper> right then, afk i go
#2220 [11:43] <Sooi11> im here everyday :p
#2221 [11:43] <Morrolan> ^^
#2222 [11:43] <implord> so define not working
#2223 [11:43] <Sooi11> The server is starting
#2224 [11:44] <Sooi11> cant join
#2225 [11:44] <implord> you cant or someone else
#2226 [11:44] <Sooi11> Nobody can
#2227 [11:44] <ellisgeek> does it work when you connect to localhost
#2228 [11:44] <implord> for you i would use 127.0.0.1
#2229 [11:44] <ellisgeek> same thing
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#2231 [11:44] <implord> but if you have a router, then you have same issue i do for hosting games
#2232 [11:45] <Sooi11> I have a router
#2233 [11:45] <implord> i have to use a noip program
#2234 [11:45] <ellisgeek> first things first cna you connect to 127.0.0.1
#2235 [11:45] <implord> for port forwarding or something liek that
#2236 [11:45] <ellisgeek> can*
#2237 [11:45] <Sooi11> i cant connect with 127.0.0.1
#2238 [11:45] <ellisgeek> check now
#2239 [11:45] <ellisgeek> what is the error
#2240 [11:45] <Sooi11> Connection refused: connect
#2241 [11:46] <ellisgeek> ok
#2242 [11:46] <Sooi11> But it worked fine before till i got a new modem
#2243 [11:46] <ellisgeek> get the latest server then try agaun
#2244 [11:46] <ellisgeek> again
#2245 [11:46] <Sooi11> i have the latest server
#2246 [11:46] <ellisgeek> 1.5_02
#2247 [11:46] <Bloodngore> Internal exception: java.net.Socketexception: Connection reset I get this error when trying connect to any server
#2248 [11:46] <Sooi11> Yes
#2249 [11:46] <Bloodngore> please provide support :)
#2250 [11:46] <implord> i used to run an UO free server. no one could join untill i for a program to point to my server
#2251 [11:47] <ellisgeek> blood your computer cant take the load i get that on my g4
#2252 [11:48] <Bloodngore> hmm... what do you mean my computer can't take it... i could connect with the same PC a while ago
#2253 [11:48] <ellisgeek> sooi11 i dont know what is wrong sorry
#2254 [11:48] <Sooi11> yeah no problem
#2255 [11:48] <Sooi11> But do you know something about internet and router stuff
#2256 [11:48] <ellisgeek> strange do you have a slow isp
#2257 [11:48] <Bloodngore> where can i check that?
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#2260 [11:49] <ellisgeek> speedtest.net
#2261 [11:49] <kANkROOOO> hi
#2262 [11:49] <kANkROOOO> :)
#2263 [11:49] <Sooi11> When i try to change my router to factory default i have no internet connection
#2264 [11:49] <kANkROOOO> i need help
#2265 [11:49] <kANkROOOO> how can i download minecraft
#2266 [11:49] <kANkROOOO> ?
#2267 [11:49] <implord> whats up kank
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#2269 [11:49] <ellisgeek> did you buy the game?
#2270 [11:49] <kANkROOOO> no
#2271 [11:50] <ellisgeek> BUY IT FIRST
#2272 [11:50] <Bloodngore> download speed is 42.73
#2273 [11:50] <Bloodngore> upload is 5.92
#2274 [11:50] <kANkROOOO> but i saw someguys play without download
#2275 [11:50] <Mloeven> you know notch could get more people to buy the game if there was a 5day grace period to test the full version without piracy
#2276 [11:50] <ellisgeek> we will NOT help people pirate minecraft
#2277 [11:50] <kANkROOOO> *buy
#2278 [11:50] <xolotl> kANkROOOO: The only version of Minecraft you can play for free is Classic
#2279 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#2280 [11:50] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survivial, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#2281 [11:50] <Mloeven> yeah
#2282 [11:50] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#2283 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2284 [11:50] <xolotl> kANkROOOO: Well actually I think there is a demo now
#2285 [11:50] <kANkROOOO> but i saw someguys play without buy
#2286 [11:51] * GreyVulpine points
#2286 [11:51] <Mloeven> oh thats new
#2287 [11:51] * xolotl lags behind
#2287 [11:51] <xolotl> Only for Windows, but whatever.
#2288 [11:51] <kANkROOOO> its true
#2289 [11:51] <kANkROOOO> ;)
#2290 [11:51] <implord> yah you can play threw the main site
#2291 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> kANkROOOO - Either they're playing on classic, or they pirated it
#2292 [11:51] <Mloeven> 90 minutes .... you need at least a day or so
#2293 [11:51] <Mloeven> to demo minecraft
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#2295 [11:51] <Sooi11> Just buy it its just €15
#2296 [11:51] <Bloodngore> ellisgeek: posted the speedtest results above. any idias?
#2297 [11:51] <Mloeven> speaking of which i think i encountered a bug in the way combat is calculated
#2298 [11:52] <kANkROOOO> i saw played multiplayer
#2299 [11:52] <kANkROOOO> with hamachi
#2300 [11:52] <kANkROOOO> i think
#2301 [11:52] <ellisgeek> member:identifier:kankroooo ether stop trolling or buck up nad pay the $22 to get the game
#2302 [11:52] <Bloodngore> kankroo the point is you can't get help here for yuor pirated game.
#2303 [11:52] <kANkROOOO> --' fu and hw
#2304 [11:52] <kANkROOOO> ok thanks for the help
#2305 [11:52] <ellisgeek> will some one kick him please
#2306 [11:52] <kANkROOOO> bye
#2307 [11:52] <Mloeven> votekick kankroooo +1
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#2309 [11:53] <Valdred> Hey again
#2310 [11:53] <ellisgeek> hi
#2311 [11:53] <Mloeven> so back to real issues
#2312 [11:53] <ellisgeek> yay :D
#2313 [11:53] <Valdred> I'm getting a FATAL: Kernel too old whenever I try to install mc server :P
#2314 [11:53] <Mloeven> i have been having some issues with combat in minecraft
#2315 [11:53] <Mloeven> i was digging a tunnel and a creeper fell down into my hole
#2316 [11:53] <ellisgeek> u on *nix
#2317 [11:53] <ellisgeek> vald
#2318 [11:53] <Valdred> yep
#2319 [11:53] <Mloeven> the opening was only 1X1 and all that was visable were the creepers feet
#2320 [11:53] <ellisgeek> distro
#2321 [11:53] <implord> umm valdred, you fully updated on your java, ect
#2322 [11:54] <Valdred> I took the one on archunix wiki :P
#2323 [11:54] <Valdred> the command
#2324 [11:54] <Mloeven> the creeper didn;t expload because it had no line of sight but at the same time i could do no damage despite having a clear line of sight of it's entire lower body
#2325 [11:54] <Mloeven> any idea why this happens
#2326 [11:54] <Valdred> because the creeper is a baws
#2327 [11:54] <Mloeven> it seems a bit unballanced
#2328 [11:54] <ellisgeek> does archlinus have sun java in their distro
#2329 [11:54] <Mloeven> that i have a clear line of sight
#2330 [11:54] <Mloeven> but i cant damage it unless it can see me
#2331 [11:54] <Sooi11> Is there no way for me to host a server?
#2332 [11:54] <Valdred> I have no idea :P
#2333 [11:54] <Bloodngore> Could i please have a few minutes of someones atention to help me solve the issue i'm having with connecting to any server?
#2334 [11:54] <Mloeven> that is completely bs
#2335 [11:55] <implord> later all, thanks for the help :D
#2336 [11:55] <ellisgeek> Bloodngore: Could i please have a few minutes of someones atention to help me solve the issue i'm having with connecting to any server? ok
#2337 [11:55] <Mloeven> but does anyone know why this happenes to me
#2338 [11:55] <ellisgeek> np
#2339 [11:55] <Bloodngore> well you asked my isp
#2340 [11:55] <Mloeven> is it a bug or intended behavior
#2341 [11:55] <Bloodngore> ellis
#2342 [11:55] <implord> ellisgeek, i will
#2343 [11:55] <ellisgeek> 45 kbps
#2344 [11:55] <ellisgeek> blood
#2345 [11:56] <Bloodngore> download speed is 42.73 18:50 Bloodngore upload is 5.92
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#2347 [11:56] <Bloodngore> so any idia why i'm getting the error ellis?
#2348 [11:57] <ellisgeek> 42 what mbps, kbps
#2349 [11:57] <ellisgeek> need moar info
#2350 [11:57] <Bloodngore> 42 mbps
#2351 [11:57] <ellisgeek> also link to your results
#2352 [11:58] <ellisgeek> helpful
#2353 [11:58] <ellisgeek> ok
#2354 [11:58] <ellisgeek> that should be fine
#2355 [11:58] <Bloodngore> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1288303894.png
#2356 [11:58] <ellisgeek> hmm
#2357 [11:59] <ellisgeek> could be that the servers are too far away
#2358 [11:59] <ellisgeek> anything in you country
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#2361 [12:00] <Bloodngore> i got the same error when trying to connect to localhost:25565 (made server with official minecraft server.exe)
#2362 [12:00] <Mloeven> so ellisgeek can someone confirm wether or not my issue is a bug or intended behavior
#2363 [12:00] <ellisgeek> not shure
#2364 [12:00] <ellisgeek> the creeper thing right
#2365 [12:01] <Mloeven> if a creeper falls in a hole and you can only see the lower half you cant hit it for some reason
#2366 [12:01] <Mloeven> you clearly have a line of sight
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#2368 [12:01] <Mloeven> at this situation for all intents and purposes you should have a legitimate advantage
#2369 [12:01] <ellisgeek> try digging down 1 block so that the creepers feet are at eye level then try
#2370 [12:02] <ellisgeek> i know nothing of how hit boxes are setup in MC
#2371 [12:02] <Mloeven> meh that happens so rarley
#2372 [12:02] <Bloodngore> ellis are you out of idias to my problem? :]
#2373 [12:02] <ellisgeek> ya
#2374 [12:02] <ellisgeek> sry man
#2375 [12:02] <Mloeven> i think you need mutual line of sight to hit anything
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#2377 [12:02] <Mloeven> dont know why
#2378 [12:02] <ellisgeek> no
#2379 [12:02] <Mloeven> but this bug happens with zombies too
#2380 [12:02] <Bloodngore> would you consider invadeing my computer to try hosting joining a server ? via team viewer
#2381 [12:02] <ellisgeek> iok
#2382 [12:03] <Bloodngore> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2383 [12:03] <ellisgeek> sorry man idk
#2384 [12:03] <Bloodngore> heres the link if you don't have it
#2385 [12:03] <ellisgeek> i have it
#2386 [12:03] <Bloodngore> ellis how do i PM here?
#2387 [12:03] <Bloodngore> just incase :P
#2388 [12:04] <ellisgeek> : /msg ellisgeek message
#2389 [12:04] <Bloodngore> ID : 506 229 916
#2390 [12:04] <ellisgeek> noo
#2391 [12:04] <ellisgeek> not in a pub chan
#2392 [12:04] <Bloodngore> pass is in priv
#2393 [12:05] <Bloodngore> as soon as i figure out how to priv
#2394 [12:05] <ellisgeek> ok
#2395 [12:05] <Bloodngore> :/msg ellisgeek pass 9770
#2396 [12:05] <Bloodngore> erm
#2397 [12:05] <Bloodngore> fail?
#2398 [12:05] <Bloodngore> YES
#2399 [12:05] <ellisgeek> y
#2400 [12:05] <ellisgeek> a
#2401 [12:05] <ellisgeek> no :
#2402 [12:05] <ellisgeek> just /
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#2404 [12:06] <Bloodngore> nothing happens when i /msg [message]
#2405 [12:07] <ellisgeek> ya but i got it
#2406 [12:07] <Bloodngore> oh ok
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#2408 [12:07] <implord> hello again.. lol
#2409 [12:07] <ellisgeek> also try dbl clicking my username in the user list
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#2411 [12:08] <Sooi11> is there a way to change your ip?
#2412 [12:08] <implord> i forgot to ask, is there a way to find the seed on a single player saved game, i like this map and dont wanna loss it
#2413 [12:08] <Bloodngore> :)
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#2415 [12:08] <ellisgeek> sooi did u bind mc server to a ip?
#2416 [12:08] <Valdred> Can anybody help me with installing java on archlinux ssh?
#2417 [12:08] <ellisgeek> ya
#2418 [12:08] <Bloodngore> so ellis you got the information ye?
#2419 [12:08] <Sooi11> What do you mean Ellisgeek?
#2420 [12:08] <Valdred> Please, anybody?
#2421 [12:09] <ellisgeek> vald what package manager does arch use
#2422 [12:09] <ellisgeek> ya blood
#2423 [12:09] <Valdred> I have no idea, I am a noob
#2424 [12:09] <ellisgeek> when you installed ssh what did u type
#2425 [12:09] <Valdred> I use putty :P
#2426 [12:09] <Valdred> I didn't install anything
#2427 [12:10] <Valdred> it might be preinstalled
#2428 [12:10] <ellisgeek> ok
#2429 [12:10] <Bloodngore> heyyo
#2430 [12:10] <Valdred> I tried installing it
#2431 [12:10] <Valdred> but now I get a FATAL: Kernel too old
#2432 [12:10] <Valdred> whenever I try to run the minecraft_server.jar
#2433 [12:11] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Valdred: pacman -Syu
#2434 [12:11] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp ::D
#2435 [12:11] <Valdred> ok :P
#2436 [12:11] <Valdred> :O
#2437 [12:11] <Valdred> I get that error again
#2438 [12:11] <Valdred> FATAL: kernel too old
#2439 [12:11] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kernel too old?
#2440 [12:12] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Are you on a VPS?
#2441 [12:12] <Valdred> yeah
#2442 [12:12] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Yeah. That's not a good thing.
#2443 [12:12] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :It means that you updated glibc, but the kernel hasn't updated.
#2444 [12:12] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :What type of VPS'
#2445 [12:12] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :*VPS??
#2446 [12:12] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Argh, *VPS?
#2447 [12:12] <Valdred> Dunno :P
#2448 [12:12] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :uname -a
#2449 [12:12] <Valdred> I bought it from hazenet
#2450 [12:13] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :What does that give?
#2451 [12:13] <Valdred> ;_;
#2452 [12:13] <Valdred> FATAL: Kernel too old
#2453 [12:13] <Valdred> should I just reinstall the OS?
#2454 [12:13] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Yeah. Something other than arch is a good choice.
#2455 [12:13] <ellisgeek> if you can install debian
#2456 [12:13] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Arch is terrible on VPS'.
#2457 [12:13] <Valdred> ok
#2458 [12:14] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Well, where you can't update the kernel.
#2459 [12:14] <ellisgeek> very well maintaied distro
#2460 [12:14] <ellisgeek> and rock sollid
#2461 [12:14] <Valdred> debian 32 or 64 bit?
#2462 [12:14] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Hmm. how much ram do you have?
#2463 [12:14] <ellisgeek> do u have a 64 bit cpu?
#2464 [12:14] <ellisgeek> also kinda lightweight
#2465 [12:14] <Valdred> lemme check
#2466 [12:15] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Valdred: how much ram've you bt
#2467 [12:15] <Valdred> checking
#2468 [12:16] <Valdred> disk space = 80 gb
#2469 [12:16] <Valdred> dedic RAM 2gb
#2470 [12:16] <Valdred> burst ram 4gb
#2471 [12:16] <Valdred> cpu
#2472 [12:16] <Valdred> quad-core unmatched
#2473 [12:16] <Valdred> x2
#2474 [12:16] <Valdred> 4 cores
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#2476 [12:16] <Valdred> 64 or 32 bit os then?
#2477 [12:16] <Valdred> It will only run an mc server
#2478 [12:17] <ellisgeek> 64
#2479 [12:17] <ellisgeek> might want some more stuff on their if all it's doing is mc cus that is a sick box
#2480 [12:18] <Valdred> huh?
#2481 [12:18] <Valdred> oh
#2482 [12:18] <Valdred> I see
#2483 [12:18] <Valdred> but can't I make the mc really really fast?
#2484 [12:18] <Valdred> let it use the whole RAM
#2485 [12:20] <ellisgeek> ya but 1-2 gb ram is all it should need
#2486 [12:20] <ellisgeek> are you going to move to debian
#2487 [12:20] <Valdred> Yep
#2488 [12:20] <Valdred> doing it now
#2489 [12:20] <ellisgeek> back up ypur world
#2490 [12:21] <Valdred> what?
#2491 [12:21] <Bloodngore> ellis is there anything more you can try?
#2492 [12:21] <Sooi11> Is there a free minecraft server hosting thing?
#2493 [12:21] <ellisgeek> also head to irc.debian.org and connect to the chan #debian
#2494 [12:21] <ellisgeek> no
#2495 [12:21] <ellisgeek> sooi
#2496 [12:21] <ellisgeek> all are payed
#2497 [12:21] <ellisgeek> for offsite hosting
#2498 [12:21] <Valdred> btw
#2499 [12:21] <Valdred> I have two dedicated IPs
#2500 [12:22] <Valdred> what does that mean exactly?
#2501 [12:22] <ellisgeek> ok
#2502 [12:22] <ellisgeek> from your ISP
#2503 [12:22] <ellisgeek> ?
#2504 [12:22] <Valdred> From the people selling me the VPS
#2505 [12:22] <Valdred> for the VPS
#2506 [12:22] <ellisgeek> ok
#2507 [12:22] <Valdred> What can I use that for?
#2508 [12:22] <Valdred> the second
#2509 [12:22] <ellisgeek> that means that you have 2 connections to the internet
#2510 [12:23] <Valdred> So I can host two minecraft servers? :P
#2511 [12:23] <Sooi11> #townofminecraft
#2512 [12:23] <ellisgeek> or just change th port
#2513 [12:24] <Valdred> now what do I do?
#2514 [12:24] <Valdred> I am on a fresh debian
#2515 [12:24] <Valdred> I want to install a server
#2516 [12:24] <Valdred> can you guide me?
#2517 [12:24] <ellisgeek> ok
#2518 [12:24] <ellisgeek> ssh?
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#2520 [12:24] <Valdred> yea
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#2522 [12:24] <ellisgeek> can you setup a 2nd account and i can setup
#2523 [12:24] <Sooi11> Does anyone know a good server hosting thingy?
#2524 [12:25] * mib_wp886s [mib_wp886s@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2525 [12:25] <ellisgeek> self run or on someone elses server
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#2527 [12:25] <Sooi11> self run
#2528 [12:26] <Valdred> :P
#2529 [12:26] <Valdred> ok
#2530 [12:26] <ellisgeek> try this http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minecraftwiki.net%2Fwiki%2FMcMyAdmin&rct=j&q=minecraft%20server%20webui&ei=nRXITf22BtK1tgei1Pm4BA&usg=AFQjCNEVZo5Ni1Mhr4u7dHVP7Zj5ia_4DQ&sig2=iZMGKaS3akB6mDIcP_bBaA&cad=rja
#2531 [12:26] <Valdred> how do I do that? ^_^
#2532 [12:27] <ellisgeek> idk
#2533 [12:27] <Valdred> make a new user :P
#2534 [12:27] <Valdred> I can google it
#2535 [12:27] <ellisgeek> umm do you have a hosting pannel
#2536 [12:27] <Valdred> yeah
#2537 [12:27] <ellisgeek> look there
#2538 [12:27] <ellisgeek> make username minecraft
#2539 [12:27] <ellisgeek> home dir /var/minecraft
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#2541 [12:28] <ellisgeek> brb need food
#2542 [12:28] <Valdred> It isn't there ;_;
#2543 [12:28] <ellisgeek> valdred do you have skype
#2544 [12:28] <ellisgeek> ?
#2545 [12:28] <Valdred> nope :P I can download though
#2546 [12:29] <ellisgeek> or gmail
#2547 [12:29] <Valdred> I have gmail
#2548 [12:29] <ellisgeek> or live messanger
#2549 [12:29] <Valdred> bjrnskagen@gmail.com
#2550 [12:29] <Bloodngore> ellis did you get the PM-s?
#2551 [12:29] <mib_wp886s> Hello
#2552 [12:29] <Bloodngore> me and my friend are now connected to the server. but the blocks keep re-apearing
#2553 [12:29] <Bloodngore> any block i or he destroys reapears
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#2555 [12:33] <NotiCon> did you try moving away from the place you spawned?
#2556 [12:34] <Bloodngore> yes that worked thanks
#2557 [12:34] <Bloodngore> anyone know if minecraft server maps save automaticly? and how freqwently?
#2558 [12:34] <mib_wp886s> It saves when you hit esc
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#2560 [12:35] <Sooi11> ok how does mcmyadmin work rlly?
#2561 [12:35] <peru> you need to hit it or just press it gently?
#2562 [12:36] <mib_wp886s> Press it ever so tenderly
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#2565 [12:37] <xolotl> That's false, btw
#2566 [12:37] <xolotl> The server doesn't know that a user's hit ESC
#2567 [12:37] <xolotl> The server does save periodically; I'm not sure exactly how often though
#2568 [12:38] <xolotl> Singleplayer games probably do save when you hit ESC though
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#2570 [12:39] <dopeghoti> xolotl: SMP changes are written to the HD within 30 seconds of being made.
#2571 [12:40] <mib_wp886s> My MC crashes right when I try to login and leaves a java error report, anyone know how to fix it? I've tried all the obvious stuff like reboot/reinstall MC and Java/disable addons
#2572 [12:41] <dopeghoti> ??+ smp/spawnzone|The spawn zone is, as a way to avoid griefing, protected from any changes by any users who are not administrators. Try moving away from the spawn area.;;If you are the server admin, see smp/opyourself
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#2574 [12:49] <Sooi11_> !check 178.117.84.199
#2575 [12:52] <Sooi11> I someone can help me, i port forwarded my ip but it doesn't work.
#2576 [12:53] <Sooi11> *can someone
#2577 [12:53] <Sooi11> *if
#2578 [12:53] <Sooi11> lol xP
#2579 [12:56] <Wug> I just finished my assembly language project whoooo!
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#2586 [13:11] <ellisgeek> !check Usage: /etc/init.d/minecraft {start|stop|update|backup|status|restart}
#2587 [13:12] <ellisgeek> !check 64.37.51.125
#2588 [13:13] <ellisgeek> !check 64.37.51.125
#2589 [13:14] <ellisgeek> QUICK EVERYONE JOIN VALDREDS SERVER @ 64.37.51.125
#2590 [13:14] <ellisgeek> :D
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#2595 [13:26] <Tooz> MC crashes right after login and leaves a JRE error report
#2596 [13:27] <Morrolan> Pastebin.com that report please.
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#2598 [13:31] <aetherian> hm
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#2602 [13:33] <kendle> h
#2603 [13:33] <aetherian> i
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#2605 [13:35] <Tooz> http://pastebin.com/uLTHLcnv
#2606 [13:35] <Tryer> deutsche auch da ?
#2607 [13:35] <Morrolan> Tryer: Ja
#2608 [13:36] <Tryer> aaa
#2609 [13:36] <Morrolan> Tooz: Did you already update your video drivers?
#2610 [13:36] <Tryer> kann man bei MC auch sowas wie eine Füll option verwenden der gewisse steine nicht überschreibt ?
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#2612 [13:36] <Tooz> Yes I've tried everything from drivers to reinstalling java
#2613 [13:37] <Tuomasd> Can someone test 192.168.0.101:25565 and tell if it works
#2614 [13:37] <Morrolan> Tuomasd: That's your internal IP.
#2615 [13:37] <Tuomasd> D:
#2616 [13:37] <Morrolan> Tryer: Also in einem bestimmten Gebiet Holz durch Gold ersetzen oder so?
#2617 [13:37] <Tuomasd> K
#2618 [13:37] <Tryer> zB
#2619 [13:37] <Morrolan> ??> Tomasd ip/external
#2620 [13:37] <VoxelHead> Tomasd: (ip/external) Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#2621 [13:37] <Morrolan> Tuomasd*
#2622 [13:38] <Tuomasd> I have tried to open 25565 the whole evening
#2623 [13:38] <Tryer> ich hab da grade n labyrint in arbeit und mach mir denn weg per stein. so der rest is noch leer und soll durch holz ersetzt werden
#2624 [13:38] <Tryer> willste ma kucken ?
#2625 [13:38] <Tryer> dann kann ichs besser erklären ;)
#2626 [13:38] <Morrolan> Tryer: Dazu musst du ein externes Tool (z.B. MCEdit) verwenden, Minecraft hat keine eingebauten M�glichkeiten f�r so etwas.
#2627 [13:39] <Morrolan> Tuomasd: Yea, most likely you've already done it correctly, but the check failed because it was your internal ip. :D
#2628 [13:39] <Tryer> MC is ja der editor mit dem ich net zurecht komme ;)
#2629 [13:39] <Tryer> hab grade ma WorldEdit ;)
#2630 [13:39] <Morrolan> WorldEdit? Geht auch, Ist dann glaub "//replace id1 id2" oder so etwas.
#2631 [13:40] <Morrolan> Tooz: Sorry, I'm afk for dinner, but someone else will be able to help you I hope, just wait a bit.
#2632 [13:40] <Tryer> ja aber ich kann nicht 0 durch 5 erseten
#2633 [13:40] <Tryer> ersetzen
#2634 [13:40] <Tryer> da is dann ALLES holz
#2635 [13:40] <Morrolan> Tryer: Hmm, ok, ich versuchs mal nach dem Essen.
#2636 [13:40] <Tryer> ^^
#2637 [13:41] <Tuomasd> Too many different IPs
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#2639 [13:46] <Tuomasd> To be honest, PFPort Checker says that the port is closed
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#2642 [13:48] <shapeshifter_ex> afternoon friends
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#2644 [13:49] <aetherian> g'mornin'
#2645 [13:49] <shapeshifter_ex> dose anyone know how to make the alotted memory for minecraft more then 50%?
#2646 [13:49] <shapeshifter_ex> im hopeing my favorite mod is awake and can help o.o
#2647 [13:50] <shapeshifter_ex> :D
#2648 [13:50] <aetherian> uh
#2649 [13:50] <aetherian> more than %50 of what
#2650 [13:51] <Xeross> Ah yes my name is stone in german so germans talking about stones highlights me, splendid
#2651 [13:51] <shapeshifter_ex> the alotted memory basicly give minecraft more power i already know to do the priority and change it to high
#2652 [13:51] <shapeshifter_ex> thankyou for that random comment xeross o.o
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#2654 [13:52] <aetherian> uh, I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, but you could start it from the command line with memory arguments...?
#2655 [13:53] <shapeshifter_ex> i might i have no clue T.T
#2656 [13:53] <shapeshifter_ex> i dont script at all sadly =[
#2657 [13:53] <aetherian> well, what exactly are you asking?
#2658 [13:53] <aetherian> do you just want it to allocate more memory at startup?
#2659 [13:54] <shapeshifter_ex> making minecraft use more memory so i wont lag as bad
#2660 [13:54] <shapeshifter_ex> sure
#2661 [13:54] <aetherian> um
#2662 [13:54] <aetherian> if the regular startup lags heaps bunches
#2663 [13:54] <aetherian> allocating more memory won't do much
#2664 [13:54] <aetherian> how much memory does your computer have?
#2665 [13:54] <shapeshifter_ex> no its not the startup its the gameplay
#2666 [13:55] <shapeshifter_ex> RAM or regualr memory?
#2667 [13:55] <aetherian> that's what I...
#2668 [13:55] <aetherian> RAM. sure.
#2669 [13:55] <shapeshifter_ex> dont laugh but 1.12
#2670 [13:55] <shapeshifter_ex> gigs
#2671 [13:56] <aetherian> one point... one-two?
#2672 [13:56] <knyrf> Allocating more memory to Minecraft won't make it faster
#2673 [13:56] <aetherian> peculiar, but oaky.
#2674 [13:56] <shapeshifter_ex> yea 1.12
#2675 [13:56] <aetherian> what knyrf/xales said
#2676 [13:56] <aetherian> (which is what I said before :D)
#2677 [13:56] <shapeshifter_ex> then xales how would i go about makeing it faster?
#2678 [13:56] <xales> If you only have 1.12GB, you don't have enough memory to even be running Minecraft at all
#2679 [13:56] <shapeshifter_ex> why didnt you just say that then T.T
#2680 [13:56] <aetherian> noooo
#2681 [13:56] <xales> Get a better computer
#2682 [13:56] <aetherian> xales, people can run it on less, and still play.
#2683 [13:56] <shapeshifter_ex> xales i can and do runminecraft...
#2684 [13:56] <aetherian> :D
#2685 [13:57] <xales> You can _run_ it sure
#2686 [13:57] <xales> not well
#2687 [13:57] <xales> :)
#2688 [13:57] <shapeshifter_ex> and xales getting a new computer isnt in the qustion right now..
#2689 [13:57] <shapeshifter_ex> if you wana buy me one ill take it lol'
#2690 [13:57] <xales> There's no magical way to make it faster
#2691 [13:57] <xales> It's not a software problem. It's a hardware problem.
#2692 [13:57] <aetherian> well
#2693 [13:57] <shapeshifter_ex> bleh
#2694 [13:58] <shapeshifter_ex> so theres no way to like
#2695 [13:58] <shapeshifter_ex> shut down everything thats not needed but still play?
#2696 [13:58] <aetherian> no, but if you must play, be sure to set all graphics to the very minimum.
#2697 [13:58] <shapeshifter_ex> i do
#2698 [13:59] <shapeshifter_ex> blah i r bore
#2699 [13:59] <shapeshifter_ex> bored
#2700 [14:00] <Tuomasd> I hate routers. And ports and port forwarding
#2701 [14:01] <shapeshifter_ex> dosent everyone
#2702 [14:01] <Tuomasd> So much IPs
#2703 [14:02] <shapeshifter_ex> ohh well i have to do a full report thats due in 12 hours T.T
#2704 [14:02] <shapeshifter_ex> not that much but i gotta reserch like 20 things
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#2709 [14:15] <Shuuji> hi
#2710 [14:15] <Shuuji> can someone pls help me with a prob?? ^^
#2711 [14:15] <shapeshifter_ex> hello
#2712 [14:15] <shapeshifter_ex> and depends
#2713 [14:15] <Kealper> Shuuji: what sort of problem?
#2714 [14:16] <Shuuji> i want to host my own minecraft server
#2715 [14:16] <Shuuji> but i cant connect to it -.-
#2716 [14:16] <Xeross> shapeshifter_ex: I feel obliged to say something when a channel is coloured blue (means a highlight occured) dunno why really >.<
#2717 [14:16] <dopeghoti> what happens when you try?
#2718 [14:16] <Shuuji> ähm mom have to look ^^
#2719 [14:16] <dopeghoti> Shuuji: that's kind of important information.
#2720 [14:17] <Shuuji> it says: Interlnal exception: java.io.IOEexception: Bad Packet id 14
#2721 [14:17] <Morrolan> Kealper: Uuh, is there a packet with the ID 0xFD ?
#2722 [14:17] <dopeghoti> out-of date server or client.
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#2724 [14:17] <dopeghoti> make sure you have the latest version of both.
#2725 [14:18] <Shuuji> how do i host my own server?
#2726 [14:18] <dopeghoti> !server
#2727 [14:18] <dopeghoti> !client
#2728 [14:18] <dopeghoti> !client
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#2731 [14:18] <smithy212000> hi
#2732 [14:18] <Kealper> should i just remove the spam limitation if it was an important person who issued the command?
#2733 [14:18] <Morrolan> Hey smithy
#2734 [14:19] <Shuuji> i cant load the site for the server
#2735 [14:19] <smithy212000> i love minecraft
#2736 [14:19] <Morrolan> Shuuji: What does it say?
#2737 [14:19] <dopeghoti> Kealper: I can wait.
#2738 [14:19] <Shuuji> http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft_Server.exe cant load
#2739 [14:19] <Morrolan> smithy: Heh, most of us do.
#2740 [14:19] <smithy212000> Obviously XD
#2741 [14:19] <Morrolan> Modified host files, anyone?
#2742 [14:19] <Shuuji> oh sry
#2743 [14:19] <Shuuji> now it worked ^^
#2744 [14:20] <Morrolan> Oh, ok.
#2745 [14:20] <Shuuji> ok ill try it now
#2746 [14:20] <smithy212000> hi
#2747 [14:20] <Morrolan> Hey smithy, again.
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#2752 [14:22] <mr_sticky> why wont my minecraft work/log in fine load screen fine/mojang/screen of death....
#2753 [14:22] <Morrolan> Did you install any mods?
#2754 [14:22] <Morrolan> And did you already try to reinstall Minecraft?
#2755 [14:23] <shapeshifter_ex> is your computer pluged in?
#2756 [14:23] <mr_sticky> have a few mods
#2757 [14:23] <Shuuji> ohhh cool thx it works
#2758 [14:23] <Shuuji> i can log in ^^
#2759 [14:23] <Morrolan> mr_sticky: Most likely one of them is for an old version, or fucked something up.
#2760 [14:23] <Shuuji> thx alot ^^
#2761 [14:23] <Morrolan> Try to reinstall Minecraft.
#2762 [14:23] <Morrolan> Which OS are you on?
#2763 [14:24] <mr_sticky> win 7
#2764 [14:24] <mr_sticky> 64 bit
#2765 [14:24] <Morrolan> ??> mr_sticky win/reinst
#2766 [14:24] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2767 [14:24] <VoxelHead> mr_sticky: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2769 [14:24] <Morrolan> You'll have to reinstall any mods afterwards, but it should fix your issue.
#2770 [14:25] <Morrolan> Oh, and your Windows key is the one on the lower left, which you use to open the start menu, with the flag on it.
#2771 [14:25] <mr_sticky> thanks ...minecraft is 2 cool 2 live without
#2772 [14:25] <Morrolan> Hehe. D:
#2773 [14:25] <Morrolan> :D*
#2774 [14:25] <shapeshifter_ex> morrolan your very detailed o.o
#2775 [14:25] <shapeshifter_ex> and you sound like an I.T. guy
#2776 [14:26] <Morrolan> Oh, I'm around here for quite some time now, so I have seen a lot of different issues and their solution.
#2777 [14:27] <shapeshifter_ex> and why are so many people logged in but not talking? o.o
#2778 [14:27] <Morrolan> There are still things where I have to say "No idea, you'll have to wait for someone else" though.
#2779 [14:27] <Morrolan> Oh, that's normal for IRC.
#2780 [14:27] <shapeshifter_ex> thats dumb lolz
#2781 [14:27] <shapeshifter_ex> the irc thing not you
#2782 [14:27] <shapeshifter_ex> =P
#2783 [14:27] <Morrolan> Most of them are either working, afk or asleep, but prefer to stay here, so they can be reached if something happens.
#2784 [14:28] <shapeshifter_ex> ahh
#2785 [14:28] <shapeshifter_ex> and morrolan i dont think you where here but is there any way to make my minecraft run faser?
#2786 [14:28] <dopeghoti> Morrolan: for future reference and less typing, there's a FAQ for that: ?? win/key (:
#2787 [14:28] <Morrolan> Dope: Oh, nice. :D
#2788 [14:28] <dopeghoti> Morrolan: see also ?? index
#2789 [14:29] <shapeshifter_ex> and morrolan why am i banned from#mcchatter
#2790 [14:29] <Morrolan> Shapeshifter: YOu'll have to register your nickname.
#2791 [14:29] <shapeshifter_ex> ive never been there in my intire irc life
#2792 [14:29] <shapeshifter_ex> my nick is registered
#2793 [14:29] <xales> Morrolan: #mcchatter doesn't allow Mibbit users, now
#2794 [14:29] <Morrolan> Oh, that's it then, shapeshifter.
#2795 [14:30] <Morrolan> xales: Did they get spammed or something?
#2796 [14:30] <shapeshifter_ex> alrighty then haha
#2797 [14:30] <xales> Pretty much every Mibbit user that goes there is there for something stupid, spamming or trolling or advertising
#2798 [14:30] <Morrolan> shapeshifter: And for making it running faster: Well, you could always disable smooth lightning, setting graphics to fast and install Optimine, but apart from that, no idea.
#2799 [14:30] <xales> Morrolan: His computer has 1GB..it's really not going to go "fast" :P
#2800 [14:30] <xales> (of RAM, of course)
#2801 [14:30] <shapeshifter_ex> ive done that lol
#2802 [14:31] <Morrolan> xales: Hmm, yea, makes sense in a channel which is for, well, spam only.
#2803 [14:31] <shapeshifter_ex> and yes im aware my computer sucks balls >.>
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#2805 [14:31] <Morrolan> I guess why can be kinda lucky, since people come here for help.
#2806 [14:31] <Morrolan> we*
#2807 [14:31] <Morrolan> No idea where that "why" came from.
#2808 [14:32] <Morrolan> ??< win/key
#2809 [14:32] <Tooz> Morrolan - were you able to help me
#2810 [14:33] <Tanjoodo_iPod> shapeshifter_ex: Your computer can suck balls? AWESOME!
#2811 [14:33] <shapeshifter_ex> yes it can its very pleasent
#2812 [14:33] <Morrolan> Tooz: Exception access violation, updated Java and GPU drivers, riht?
#2813 [14:33] <Morrolan> right*
#2814 [14:33] <Tooz> Yeah
#2815 [14:33] <xales> Tooz: What's the full error?
#2816 [14:33] <Morrolan> I have no idea, but there are some other people here now, who might have a clue
#2817 [14:33] <Morrolan> Xales: Second
#2818 [14:33] <Morrolan> http://pastebin.com/uLTHLcnv
#2819 [14:33] <Tooz> http://pastebin.com/uLTHLcnv
#2820 [14:34] <Tanjoodo_iPod> And Morrolan wins
#2821 [14:34] <xales> ??> Tooz win/dxdiag
#2822 [14:34] <VoxelHead> Tooz: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2823 [14:34] <VoxelHead> Tooz: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2824 [14:34] <Morrolan> Tanjoodo: Quite close though. ^^
#2825 [14:35] <Tooz> http://pastebin.com/2jhGDQ5w
#2826 [14:36] <Shuuji> ^^
#2827 [14:36] <Shuuji> can someone pls help me with another prob? ^^
#2828 [14:36] <xales> Shuuji: Just say what it is
#2829 [14:36] <shapeshifter_ex> sure =o
#2830 [14:36] <Shuuji> i want to run minecraft but everytime i login it crashes
#2831 [14:37] <Shuuji> no error
#2832 [14:37] <xales> Tooz: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx
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#2834 [14:37] <xales> ??> Shuuji win/reinst
#2835 [14:37] <VoxelHead> Shuuji: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2836 [14:37] <VoxelHead> Shuuji: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2837 [14:37] <xales> Tooz: Install that, reboot, and it should work
#2838 [14:37] <Tooz> I have CCC
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#2841 [14:38] <xales> Tooz: But not the latest version :)
#2842 [14:38] <Metamorphosis> Anyone fancy assisting me please?
#2843 [14:39] <Shuuji> why should i install a graficdriver?
#2844 [14:39] <shapeshifter_ex> this kid
#2845 [14:39] <xales> Metamorphosis: WIth?
#2846 [14:39] <BarryCarlyon> Advice on minecraft throwing a black screen on a fresh ubuntu install?
#2847 [14:39] <Tooz> Oh okay, looks like it just came out today
#2848 [14:39] <xales> Shuuji: I wasn't telling you to install that
#2849 [14:39] <xales> BarryCarlyon: Graphics driver
#2850 [14:39] <Shuuji> i just downloaded mionecraft from the official hp and tryed to run under win xp
#2851 [14:39] <shapeshifter_ex> minecraft has a new version?
#2852 [14:39] <shapeshifter_ex> >:O
#2853 [14:39] <BarryCarlyon> xales, time for hunt :-D Twas my thoughts but thought I'd check first.
#2854 [14:39] <xales> Shuuji: Follow the instructions Voxelhead said
#2855 [14:39] <xales> BarryCarlyon: System->Administration->Additional Drivers
#2856 [14:40] <xales> (might be Hardware Drivers)
#2857 [14:40] <xales> just tick the box :)
#2858 [14:40] <shapeshifter_ex> say it isnt sooo were already ar 1.6? o.o
#2859 [14:40] <Shuuji> when i type in %appdata% ann error occures
#2860 [14:40] <Morrolan> shapeshifter: No?
#2861 [14:40] <Morrolan> Unless I've missed something. D:
#2862 [14:40] <shapeshifter_ex> o.o
#2863 [14:40] <Metamorphosis> Basically, I've really purchased a second minecraft account. When playing online my original seems to work like a charm, no problems, however when I attempt to use the second, the game is impossible to play due to chunks not loading and very bad lag.
#2864 [14:40] <Morrolan> Ah, he was talking about graphics driver. ;)
#2865 [14:40] <xales> Shuuji: What exactly does it say?
#2866 [14:41] <oldtopmanserver> Metamorphosis, Have you tried it on a different server?
#2867 [14:41] <shapeshifter_ex> oldtopman =D
#2868 [14:41] <Shuuji> oh sry it works with %appdata% xD
#2869 [14:41] <Shuuji> my fault sry
#2870 [14:41] <oldtopmanserver> shapeshifter_ex, Hiw goes your server hunt?
#2871 [14:41] <Shuuji> so then deleting bin folder?
#2872 [14:41] <Metamorphosis> Yes, same problem sadly, I've also attempted completely removing minecraft and re running it
#2873 [14:41] <shapeshifter_ex> it was great the i_eat_plastic dude has a amazeing server
#2874 [14:42] <oldtopmanserver> shapeshifter_ex, No lag for you?
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#2876 [14:42] <xales> Metamorphosis: I have no idea why it would do that...you might want to file a bug report
#2877 [14:42] <shapeshifter_ex> basicly none haha but i do lag occasionaly
#2878 [14:42] <I_Eat_Plastic> o_O
#2879 [14:42] <shapeshifter_ex> lulz =P
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#2881 [14:42] <Shuuji> ok now minecraft is downloading the updates
#2882 [14:42] <oldtopmanserver> shapeshifter_ex, Glad to see you found a non-laggy one.
#2883 [14:42] <Metamorphosis> Sounds good, cheers bro
#2884 [14:42] <Shuuji> and when it finishes it crashes again -.-
#2885 [14:42] <oldtopmanserver> xales: There is a new version out?
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#2887 [14:43] <shapeshifter_ex> mhm i made a huge treehouse so far and im thinking of makeing a curch
#2888 [14:43] <Shuuji> why?
#2889 [14:43] <shapeshifter_ex> church*
#2890 [14:43] <BarryCarlyon> xales, hardware drivers throws nothing. And a no propritery drivers are in use.
#2891 [14:43] * oldtopmanserver remembers
#2891 [14:43] <oldtopmanserver> I have to make a church!
#2892 [14:43] <oldtopmanserver> I;m the priest!
#2893 [14:43] <xales> BarryCarlyon: Look on the Ubuntu wiki for how to install the proprietary drivers for your graphics card
#2894 [14:43] <oldtopmanserver> (In a fake mc wedding)
#2895 [14:44] <xales> ??> Shuuji win/dxdiag
#2896 [14:44] <VoxelHead> Shuuji: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2897 [14:44] <VoxelHead> Shuuji: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2898 [14:44] <oldtopmanserver> BarryCarlon: Run the command "jockey-gtk"
#2899 [14:44] <shapeshifter_ex> lolz i just wana make a curch beacuse im bored XD
#2900 [14:44] <shapeshifter_ex> church*
#2901 [14:45] <shapeshifter_ex> it will go nicely with the overall theme of the town
#2902 [14:45] <shapeshifter_ex> wich i have no clue what it is
#2903 [14:45] <oldtopmanserver> XD
#2904 [14:45] <BarryCarlyon> oldtopmanserver,opens the same window I was in before -> off to the wiki
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#2906 [14:46] <Tooz> Hey I installed the latest CCC and rebooted but MC still doesn't work
#2907 [14:46] <shapeshifter_ex> Notch needs to hurry up and make an update T.T
#2908 [14:46] <shapeshifter_ex> i want pistons damnit
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#2910 [14:47] <shapeshifter_ex> but shapes dont you know theres a mod for pistons?
#2911 [14:47] <shapeshifter_ex> yes i do now hush
#2912 [14:47] <dopeghoti> Tooz: "CCC"?
#2913 [14:47] <Tooz> Catalyst Control Center
#2914 [14:47] <Shuuji> http://pastebin.com/iXPhdaGA
#2915 [14:47] <dopeghoti> ugh
#2916 [14:48] <dopeghoti> Tooz: remove that cruft and just install the bare drivers.
#2917 [14:48] <Shuuji> did it worked?
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#2919 [14:49] <xales> Shuuji: No, it didn't, because you didn't paste anything
#2920 [14:49] <shapeshifter_ex> lulz
#2921 [14:50] <Shuuji> http://pastebin.com/iXPhdaGa
#2922 [14:50] <Tooz> Hey xales: still not working : /
#2923 [14:50] <Shuuji> sry
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#2925 [14:50] <Shuuji> now
#2926 [14:50] <shapeshifter_ex> did you delete meta-inf?
#2927 [14:50] <Shuuji> did it work now?
#2928 [14:50] <xales> Tooz: As DopeGhoti suggested, uninstall CCC and install just the drivers
#2929 [14:50] <shapeshifter_ex> T.T
#2930 [14:50] <xales> Shuuji: Yes, and the problem is that your computer won't be able to run it
#2931 [14:50] <Shuuji> why?
#2932 [14:50] <shapeshifter_ex> beacuse it sucks more balls then mine
#2933 [14:50] <shapeshifter_ex> =D
#2934 [14:51] <Shuuji> xD
#2935 [14:51] <xales> Shuuji: You can install the latest graphics driver, but it still may not run
#2936 [14:51] <Shuuji> its too bad right? ^^
#2937 [14:51] <Shuuji> damn
#2938 [14:51] <Tooz> Do you know where I can find just the drivers?
#2939 [14:51] <shapeshifter_ex> ebay
#2940 [14:51] <xales> Shuuji: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/radeon-prer300-xp.aspx
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#2942 [14:51] <xales> Tooz: On the same page I linked you to earlier
#2943 [14:52] <shapeshifter_ex> xales your smart right?
#2944 [14:52] <Shuuji> i installed the driver already
#2945 [14:52] <xales> Shuuji: No, you haven't
#2946 [14:52] <Shuuji> ok ill try
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#2948 [14:52] <dopeghoti> Shuuji: go into the driver's advanced setting, and set all options to application-controlled.
#2949 [14:52] <xales> Oh, nevermind, I guesss that _is_ the latest
#2950 [14:53] <shapeshifter_ex> its a virus >:O
#2951 [14:53] <dopeghoti> rather than overridden to high-quality or whatever
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#2953 [14:53] <dopeghoti> CCC is pretty much undistilled evil, yes
#2954 [14:53] <shapeshifter_ex> just like C++
#2955 [14:53] <shapeshifter_ex> those bastards
#2956 [14:53] <dopeghoti> C++ is more.. distilled. (:
#2957 [14:53] <Morrolan> C++ is just Pacman eating some points, completly harmless!
#2958 [14:54] * Morrolan goes back to his cave
#2958 [14:54] <shapeshifter_ex> anything with C at the begining is evil
#2959 [14:54] <shapeshifter_ex> =[
#2960 [14:54] <shapeshifter_ex> Computers? evil
#2961 [14:54] <shapeshifter_ex> Credit Cards? evil!
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#2963 [14:54] <Kealper> ^
#2964 [14:54] <shapeshifter_ex> CAMMELS!!!?!?!?!
#2965 [14:54] <shapeshifter_ex> EVIL!
#2966 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> Custard?
#2967 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> Cheese?
#2968 [14:55] <shapeshifter_ex> EVAIL!!!!
#2969 [14:55] <xales> Cake
#2970 [14:55] <Morrolan> condom?
#2971 [14:55] <shapeshifter_ex> is a lie
#2972 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> Carrots
#2973 [14:55] <shapeshifter_ex> condoms are evil
#2974 [14:55] <Morrolan> So the pope was right!
#2975 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> Only if you are Catholic
#2976 [14:55] <shapeshifter_ex> they fail 100% of the time
#2977 [14:56] <shapeshifter_ex> catolicisim?
#2978 [14:56] <shapeshifter_ex> EVIL haha just kidding
#2979 [14:56] <shapeshifter_ex> or am i
#2980 [14:56] <shapeshifter_ex> im not
#2981 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> no, that was right on the money
#2982 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> no pun intended
#2983 [14:56] <Morrolan> Problem is, if the Evil says that something is evil, what then?
#2984 [14:56] <shapeshifter_ex> lulz
#2985 [14:56] <Morrolan> So if the catholics say condoms are evil, we're doomed.
#2986 [14:56] <shapeshifter_ex> if the evil says something is evil
#2987 [14:56] <DopeGhoti> Catholicism distilled: "If you believe in god, it's because of the devil."
#2988 [14:56] <shapeshifter_ex> then it is super evil and should be avoided at all costs
#2989 [14:57] <Morrolan> shapeshifter: Ah, ok, so everything is fine. ^^
#2990 [14:57] <shapeshifter_ex> and condoms are evil
#2991 [14:57] <shapeshifter_ex> why do you think im here?\
#2992 [14:57] <shapeshifter_ex> =3
#2993 [14:58] * Tanjoodo_iPod [Tanjoodo_iPod@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2994 [14:58] <shapeshifter_ex> but i digress
#2995 [14:59] <shapeshifter_ex> anyone wana tell me a buncha mods that would normaly ruin the game?
#2996 [14:59] <Morrolan> Brb
#2997 [14:59] <shapeshifter_ex> but if used right wont?
#2998 [14:59] <Kealper> shapeshifter_ex: all of them
#2999 [14:59] <shapeshifter_ex> lulz
#3000 [14:59] <shapeshifter_ex> kealper!
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#3002 [14:59] * Kealper is a Mincraft puritan
#3002 [14:59] <shapeshifter_ex> my favoritest of healpers
#3003 [14:59] <Kealper> o.o
#3004 [14:59] * Tanjoodo_iPod_ [Tanjoodo_iPod_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3005 [15:00] <shapeshifter_ex> hes
#3006 [15:00] <shapeshifter_ex> yes
#3007 [15:00] <shapeshifter_ex> i spelled helpers healpers
#3008 [15:00] <shapeshifter_ex> i know my grammitical error
#3009 [15:00] <Kealper> ...lol
#3010 [15:00] <shapeshifter_ex> i needed you earlyer kealper D=
#3011 [15:00] <Kealper> so i read
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#3013 [15:01] <shapeshifter_ex> but ohh well got it fixed lulz
#3014 [15:01] <Kealper> lol
#3015 [15:01] <Tryer> deutscher da ?
#3016 [15:01] <shapeshifter_ex> and btw why isnt morrlan a mod yet?
#3017 [15:01] <Tryer> hab wieder n prob
#3018 [15:02] <Kealper> Tryer: do you know English?
#3019 [15:02] <shapeshifter_ex> ich bien ine fishfinger
#3020 [15:02] <Tryer> not really ;)
#3021 [15:02] <Tryer> bad english
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#3023 [15:02] <shapeshifter_ex> http://translate.google.com/#
#3024 [15:02] <shapeshifter_ex> go there
#3025 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Ich kann ein bischien.
#3026 [15:03] <Wug> good mroeing
#3027 [15:03] <Kealper> oh, dope is here, how convienient
#3028 [15:03] <shapeshifter_ex> DONOT SPEAK IT BACK AT HIM
#3029 [15:03] <shapeshifter_ex> lol just kidding
#3030 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_ex: Halts Maul.
#3031 [15:03] <Tryer> dope
#3032 [15:03] <shapeshifter_ex> stop what now?
#3033 [15:03] <Tryer> kennst du dich mit WE aus ?
#3034 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> Was ist "WE"?
#3035 [15:04] <Shuuji> ok i installed the gaphic driver but how do i change the options to application-controlled?
#3036 [15:04] <Tryer> worldedit ;)
#3037 [15:04] <shapeshifter_ex> oh haha dope T.T
#3038 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> ah; ich kann kein vin WorldEdit; tut mir Leid.
#3039 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> sonder, "von"
#3040 [15:05] <Tryer> a kk
#3041 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> Mein Tippenkraft sind schect heute. :p
#3042 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> ..schlect.
#3043 [15:05] <Shuuji> lol wie jetzt hier lungern auch deutsche rum xD
#3044 [15:05] <Shuuji> sag das doch makl einer vorher ^^#
#3045 [15:05] <shapeshifter_ex> My tip force today schecter is what dope said occording to google translate
#3046 [15:06] <_303> shapeshifter_ex: my typing skills are bad today~
#3047 [15:06] <shapeshifter_ex> thats convient
#3048 [15:06] <_303> that's the translation...
#3049 [15:06] <shapeshifter_ex> but thats not what google told me it was D=
#3050 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> _303: gets a gold star.
#3051 [15:07] <shapeshifter_ex> and google has never lied to me
#3052 [15:07] <shapeshifter_ex> ever
#3053 [15:07] <Shuuji> can someone help me?? question is up there ^^
#3054 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> Google Translate is not so good with idiom
#3055 [15:07] <Tryer> Shuuji
#3056 [15:07] <Shuuji> about application-controlled ^^
#3057 [15:07] <Tryer> kennst du dich mit Worldedit aus ?
#3058 [15:07] <Shuuji> yeah?
#3059 [15:07] <_303> ~Meine Tippk�nste lassen heute zu W�nschen ubrig?
#3060 [15:07] <Shuuji> ne wasn das ^^
#3061 [15:07] <Kealper> Shuuji: in CCC?
#3062 [15:07] <_303> �brig*
#3063 [15:07] <Tryer> löl
#3064 [15:07] <Shuuji> yeah
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#3066 [15:07] <Kealper> Shuuji: gimme a sec, i have an ati card too, i'll check
#3067 [15:07] <Shuuji> thx ^^
#3068 [15:08] <shapeshifter_ex> Я так скучал я могу съесть корову
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#3071 [15:08] <shapeshifter_ex> russian > all other languages
#3072 [15:09] <Kealper> Shuuji: ok, do you have CCC open?
#3073 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_ex: Эй! Ничего подобного здесь, сэр или мэм или других.
#3074 [15:09] <shapeshifter_ex> =.=
#3075 [15:09] <Kealper> all i know is Het
#3076 [15:10] <Kealper> and i can't even type that right because of my english keyboard lol
#3077 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: that's what the Compose key is for.
#3078 [15:10] <shapeshifter_ex> Поэтому дозу никто не говорят на русском здесь?
#3079 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> oh, wait, you use Windows.
#3080 [15:10] <_303> нет
#3081 [15:10] <Kealper> ^
#3082 [15:11] <genshou> Glowstone blocks emit a light of 15. Does that mean the block itself is 15, and the adjacent blocks are 14?
#3083 [15:11] <Kealper> Shuuji: ok, i'll just assume you do: drop down the Gaming thing on the left side, select 3D Application Settings
#3084 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> the extent of my Russian: "Vokda. Вода."
#3085 [15:11] <shapeshifter_ex> lolz
#3086 [15:11] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: nice.
#3087 [15:11] <aikaramba> LFD
#3088 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> "LFD"?
#3089 [15:12] <aikaramba> typo
#3090 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> Is that like acid, but less fun?
#3091 [15:12] <aikaramba> :D
#3092 [15:12] <Kealper> i think he meant LFDP
#3093 [15:12] <aikaramba> ":D"
#3094 [15:12] <Shuuji> @Kealper yeah ^^
#3095 [15:12] <Kealper> and to anyone who knows what LFDP means....you are a nerd.
#3096 [15:12] <shapeshifter_ex> so did german guy get helped?
#3097 [15:12] * DopeGhoti can't wait for someone with the nick of 'D' to pop in here so he can get pinged when anyone does the ':D' emoticon
#3097 [15:12] <Shuuji> @Kealperand now?
#3098 [15:12] <Morrolan> shapeshifter: Yep.
#3099 [15:13] <Kealper> Shuuji: just check all the boxes that say "Use application settings"
#3100 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_ex: Ich glaube, nicht, denn er hat Worldedithilfe gesucht.
#3101 [15:13] <Kealper> and then hit Apply once you do that
#3102 [15:13] <Shuuji> already are klicked ^^
#3103 [15:13] <Wug> dopeghoti - ns info says that D has been registered to the account 'D' for mre than 2 and a half years
#3104 [15:13] <Wug> also he's online now.
#3105 [15:13] <Kealper> Shuuji: then it's already using the application settings :/
#3106 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> but not in here, so we can't grin at em.
#3107 [15:13] <Shuuji> ok thex
#3108 [15:14] <shapeshifter_ex> I think not, because he has Worldedithilfe gesuc
#3109 [15:14] <_303> [d] @#pokebattles
#3110 [15:14] <shapeshifter_ex> o.o
#3111 [15:14] <Wug> /cs invite D
#3112 [15:14] <Morrolan> In #pokebattles , obviously. :D
#3113 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: D, [D].
#3114 [15:14] <Morrolan> He's even an OP there. ^^
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#3116 [15:15] <shapeshifter_ex> im bored
#3117 [15:15] <Kealper> i'm Kealper, nice to meet you bored
#3118 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_ex: did you get the wound inspected for infection?
#3119 [15:16] <Kealper> wut
#3120 [15:16] <shapeshifter_ex> well kealper i have a problem you see when ever i wake up in the morning i always crash and sometimes i blue screen
#3121 [15:16] <shapeshifter_ex> can you help me out?
#3122 [15:16] <shapeshifter_ex> no i didnt
#3123 [15:17] <Kealper> not sure if sarcasm....
#3124 [15:17] <Wug> ?
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#3126 [15:17] <micsen> help me
#3127 [15:17] <Kealper> ?? ask
#3128 [15:17] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3129 [15:17] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#3131 [15:17] <micsen> can anyone look at a bug i found ?
#3132 [15:17] * PcJamesy [PcJamesy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3133 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> Not if you don't show us.
#3134 [15:17] <Kealper> what sort of bug?
#3135 [15:18] <micsen> come on my server i will show you
#3136 [15:18] <micsen> smp.mixrp.co.cc
#3137 [15:18] <Kealper> anyone else want to check that out? i'm rather busy feeding my MMO addiction right now
#3138 [15:18] <xales> Can you take a screenshot of the bug?
#3139 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> micsen: many of us are at work and cannot jump into games willy-nilly
#3140 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> is it the 1k bug?
#3141 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> or the stair-light bug?
#3142 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> or the "I have a mod installed that's breaking things" bug?
#3143 [15:19] <xales> DopeGhoti: I like that last one
#3144 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> xales: that one happens a lot
#3145 [15:19] <micsen> its that if i remove a block all the stairs in that row when i place it they reapearce
#3146 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> pity Mojang can't fix it
#3147 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> micsen: is this near the spawn area?
#3148 [15:20] <micsen> nope miles away
#3149 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Any mods on the server?
#3150 [15:20] <micsen> yea
#3151 [15:21] <shapeshifter_ex> yup
#3152 [15:21] <shapeshifter_ex> knewit
#3153 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> Try running the server without mods and seeing if the problem goes away
#3154 [15:21] <micsen> ok
#3155 [15:23] <shapeshifter_ex> guessing it worked
#3156 [15:23] <shapeshifter_ex> morrolan!
#3157 [15:23] <shapeshifter_ex> front and center!
#3158 [15:24] <shapeshifter_ex> why arnt you a mod yet?
#3159 [15:24] <Sooi11> Need help, i port forwarded my ip, and my ports are still not open.
#3160 [15:24] <Kealper> shapeshifter_ex: technically he is
#3161 [15:24] <Kealper> that's sorta what the + by his name means....lol
#3162 [15:24] <shapeshifter_ex> i ment why he isnt a star lolz
#3163 [15:25] <Kealper> >star
#3164 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: @, *
#3165 [15:25] <Kealper> >mibbit
#3166 [15:25] * genzilla [genzilla@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3167 [15:25] <Kealper> and he's not a channel operator because we have enough of those already
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#3169 [15:25] <xales> Sooi11: "Port checker" tools can't check unless the server is running when you run the check. Is it?
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#3171 [15:27] <micsen> nope it dident worked
#3172 [15:27] <Sooi11> No but it just does'nt work
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#3174 [15:27] <aikaramba> any idea when something like creative mode might come to BETA?
#3175 [15:27] <Wug> theres no such thing as too many ops
#3176 [15:27] <xales> Sooi11: Then you haven't port forwarded correctly, or the port checker you as using is garbage (or you have a firewall blocking it) :)
#3177 [15:27] <micsen> Can i get help here again
#3178 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> aikaramba: entirely up to Notch. No idea; sorry
#3179 [15:27] <xales> aikaramba: Eventually?
#3180 [15:27] <xales> Possibly
#3181 [15:28] <aikaramba> hmm
#3182 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Wug: there really is.
#3183 [15:28] <Sooi11> !check 178.117.84.199
#3184 [15:28] <Wug> hah nope
#3185 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> micsen: so even running the server with no mods, the same problem is extant?
#3186 [15:28] <micsen> can anyone look at the bug ?
#3187 [15:28] <Wug> I can maybe look
#3188 [15:28] <Wug> address?
#3189 [15:28] <micsen> smp.mixrp.co.cc
#3190 [15:29] <micsen> just installed bukkit again
#3191 [15:29] <Wug> .
#3192 [15:29] * aikaramba was quite confised after he purchased minecraft and realized that he cannot simply build anymore
#3192 [15:29] <Wug> ....
#3193 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> aikaramba: you can; just play on Peaceful
#3194 [15:29] <aikaramba> yes
#3195 [15:29] <Wug> you know, there is a bukkit channel for bukkit help and bukkit issues called #bukkit
#3196 [15:29] <aikaramba> but its slow
#3197 [15:30] <aikaramba> i want to lay tracks
#3198 [15:30] <aikaramba> not mine iron and craft tools
#3199 [15:30] <micsen> but this is a normal minecraft bug
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#3201 [15:30] <Wug> and if its a bukkit specific issue I will not be able to fix it
#3202 [15:30] <xales> aikaramba: You can use programs/mods to give yourself resources
#3203 [15:30] <aikaramba> nope
#3204 [15:30] <aikaramba> im on linux
#3205 [15:30] <xales> Doesn't matter :)
#3206 [15:30] <Wug> logging in
#3207 [15:30] <micsen> because it diddent worked when i removed bukkit
#3208 [15:30] <aikaramba> and invGrid is only for ubuntu 10.10
#3209 [15:30] <xales> There are other programs
#3210 [15:30] <xales> like TooManyItems, which is platform-independant
#3211 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> aikaramba: if it works in 10.10 it will almost definitely still work in 11.04
#3212 [15:31] <xales> ^
#3213 [15:31] <aikaramba> im on older
#3214 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> or 10.04
#3215 [15:31] <xales> compile it from source then
#3216 [15:31] <aikaramba> like i knew how
#3217 [15:31] <xales> same as anything else
#3218 [15:31] <xales> ./configure; make && sudo make install
#3219 [15:31] <aikaramba> like i knew how
#3220 [15:31] <aikaramba> that works 1 in 100 times
#3221 [15:32] <xales> if it doesn't work, then you are missing a dependancy, and the error it gives you will tell you what :)
#3222 [15:32] <aikaramba> most likely i'd got some (insert a ton of swearing) error
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#3224 [15:32] <xales> anyway, just use TooManyItems
#3225 [15:32] <aikaramba> and thats what i have to pay for?
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#3227 [15:32] <aikaramba> just to place blocks
#3228 [15:32] <aikaramba> pff
#3229 [15:32] <xales> err, what?
#3230 [15:33] <xales> TooManyItems is free
#3231 [15:33] <aikaramba> minecraft beta wasnt
#3232 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> xales: ey's upset that there's no Creative mode in Beta yet, is all
#3233 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> which is, honestly, a reasonable complaint
#3234 [15:33] <xales> indeed, but with TMI, it's almost the same
#3235 [15:33] <xales> (press I, click block, have block)
#3236 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> given that that's what the "free" classic version that's usually considered the 'demo' consissts of
#3237 [15:34] <aikaramba> there is no indication
#3238 [15:34] <aikaramba> that the purchased game
#3239 [15:34] <aikaramba> will not have classic mode
#3240 [15:34] <aikaramba> only when you see that there is none
#3241 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> ^ This is a reasonable complaint.
#3242 [15:34] <BarryCarlyon> The alternative, is you play minecraft how my gf does, I gave her admin, she just gives herself everything.
#3243 [15:34] <aikaramba> and go looking after it
#3244 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> And I understand it
#3245 [15:34] <aikaramba> you find that its different type of game
#3246 [15:34] <aikaramba> but in the minecraft.net
#3247 [15:34] <aikaramba> nothing says that
#3248 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> Notch has said that he does in fact plan in adding a Classic mode to the newer codebase
#3249 [15:34] <xales> aikaramba: As I've said, if you want it to be like Classic, just install TooManyItems
#3250 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> it just hasn't happened yet.
#3251 [15:35] <aikaramba> isnt that illegal
#3252 [15:35] <aikaramba> like hack?
#3253 [15:35] <xales> No
#3254 [15:35] <xales> It doesn't work on multiplayer, and you are free to play your own single-player game however you want
#3255 [15:35] <aikaramba> but if i want to play on my local server
#3256 [15:36] <xales> You can use TMI on servers where you are an op; it uses the /give command
#3257 [15:36] <aikaramba> (not doing it yet, but planing on)
#3258 [15:36] <xales> (you have to configure it to do that, however0
#3259 [15:36] <xales> )*
#3260 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> or, if it's your server, you can just use the /give command and turn off monsters
#3261 [15:38] <aikaramba> TMI link seems down
#3262 [15:38] <aikaramba> aa got it
#3263 [15:38] <aikaramba> :)
#3264 [15:38] <aikaramba> should i backup my saves?
#3265 [15:38] <aikaramba> it seems to be messing with original jar file
#3266 [15:39] <xales> aikaramba: TMI isn't capable of corrupting save
#3267 [15:39] <xales> saves*
#3268 [15:39] <xales> but it never hurts to back them up :)
#3269 [15:39] <aikaramba> this all seems very cheesy
#3270 [15:43] <aikaramba> what happens when i update?
#3271 [15:44] <Morrolan> You'll need to reinstall any mods then.
#3272 [15:44] <aikaramba> or enter public SMC server
#3273 [15:44] <aikaramba> wont i get banned?
#3274 [15:44] <Morrolan> That won't matter.
#3275 [15:44] <Morrolan> You will not be able to use it, but they won't know that it's installed either.
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#3277 [15:45] <aikaramba> milk
#3278 [15:45] <aikaramba> what the hell
#3279 [15:45] <aikaramba> if i build something with this mod
#3280 [15:46] <aikaramba> can i send the saves to someone with unmodified game?
#3281 [15:47] <aikaramba> Thank you xales and Morrolan
#3282 [15:48] <aikaramba> looks like this is exactly what i was looking for
#3283 [15:48] <xales> aikaramba: You can, yes
#3284 [15:48] <aikaramba> :)
#3285 [15:48] <xales> And you are quite welcome
#3286 [15:48] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#3287 [15:48] <BarryCarlyon> xales,whats the mod called again? GOnna look it up fro the wife unit.
#3288 [15:48] <xales> TooManyItems
#3289 [15:48] <BarryCarlyon> Thanks.
#3290 [15:51] <aikaramba> TNT
#3291 [15:51] <aikaramba> :D
#3292 [15:51] <aikaramba> yeehaa
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#3294 [15:52] <shapeshifter_ex> and back
#3295 [15:53] * Kealper is happy now that he is feeding his MMO addiction once more
#3295 [15:53] * shapeshifter_ex slaps the mouse away from kealper*
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#3296 [15:53] <shapeshifter_ex> no!
#3297 [15:53] <Kealper> bah
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#3299 [15:54] <Wug> brb
#3300 [15:54] <shapeshifter_ex> what game kealper?
#3301 [15:54] <Kealper> Silkroad >.>
#3302 [15:54] <shapeshifter_ex> link? i might try it
#3303 [15:54] <Kealper> ehh....it's other pet name is Botroad Offline
#3304 [15:55] <shapeshifter_ex> liinnnkkk
#3305 [15:55] <Kealper> so...unless you use a bot it's not worth playing
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#3307 [15:55] <shapeshifter_ex> i do bot in every game i play lolz
#3308 [15:55] <Gatling> hi
#3309 [15:55] <Kealper> Gatling: hi
#3310 [15:57] <Kealper> shapeshifter_ex: http://silkroadonline.net but i'm telling you, it's a horrible game
#3311 [15:58] <Kealper> if you like WoW, you are going to hate SRO
#3312 [15:58] <shapeshifter_ex> i hate wow lol
#3313 [15:58] <Kealper> it's just too vastly different in every way
#3314 [15:58] <xales> Kealper: Derp ._.
#3315 [15:58] <xales> May 9 15:57:19 localhost postfix/smtpd[6470]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail3.account16.rent.com[64.14.254.45]: 450 4.1.1 <pleasegodie@inafire.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table; from=<returned-mail@rent.com> to=<pleasegodie@inafire.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<mail3.account16.rent.com>
#3316 [15:58] <Gatling> hm how can i get voice in the main chan(#minecraft)? My nick is registered :)
#3317 [15:58] <Kealper> xales: XD
#3318 [15:58] <xales> Gatling: You don't need voice to talk
#3319 [15:58] <xales> If your nick is registered, then you can talk
#3320 [15:58] <xales> (you have to "identify" for it)
#3321 [15:58] <Kealper> ?? irc
#3322 [15:59] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#3323 [15:59] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#3324 [15:59] <Gatling> i have ident myself
#3325 [15:59] <Gatling> i have add the command into de mirc perform and it works: [21:53:04] -NickServ- You are now identified for Gatling.
#3326 [15:59] <xales> 15:59:02 -NickServ(NickServ@services.esper.net)- Gatling has NOT COMPLETED registration verification
#3327 [15:59] <xales> No, you haven't
#3328 [15:59] <xales> You have to check your email, as the original instructions said
#3329 [15:59] <shapeshifter_ex> you need to activate the email
#3330 [15:59] <shapeshifter_ex> u nless you use aol
#3331 [16:00] <shapeshifter_ex> then your fucked
#3332 [16:00] <Gatling> ... oh sry
#3333 [16:00] <shapeshifter_ex> its fine =D
#3334 [16:00] <Gatling> k thx
#3335 [16:00] <Kealper> what's wrong with aol?
#3336 [16:00] <shapeshifter_ex> it blocks all emails from here
#3337 [16:00] <Gatling> The most irc server i need no email verification :)
#3338 [16:00] <xales> Kealper: You really need to ask that? :P
#3339 [16:00] <Kealper> (in regards to irc, not how crappy they are in general)
#3340 [16:01] <xales> AOL users don't recieve mail from Services
#3341 [16:01] <Kealper> huh...weird
#3342 [16:01] <xales> because they check something that the RFC says explicitly NOT TO CHECK
#3343 [16:01] <xales> "Mail servers MUST NOT check..."
#3344 [16:01] <Gatling> Can i idle here or is this chan only for helping people? ^^
#3345 [16:01] <xales> Gatling: You are welcome to idle
#3346 [16:01] <Gatling> thx
#3347 [16:01] <shapeshifter_ex> you can idle
#3348 [16:02] <Kealper> i idle all the time \o/
#3349 [16:02] <Gatling> ^^
#3350 [16:02] <shapeshifter_ex> dont thnk these 186 people here actualy help do ya?
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#3352 [16:02] <Gatling> hm
#3353 [16:02] <Gatling> :)
#3354 [16:02] <Gatling> i dont think so
#3355 [16:02] <shapeshifter_ex> =P
#3356 [16:03] <shapeshifter_ex> btw kealper
#3357 [16:03] <shapeshifter_ex> i dont think google chrome can do silkroad beacuse its not loading a page
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#3359 [16:03] <shapeshifter_ex> Web page of Silkroad Online is optimized under below condition. Windows Operation Systems ( Microsoft Windows 98/2000/XP/Vista ) Mozilla Firefox / Opera / Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0 and above.
#3360 [16:04] <xales> Kealper: I have almost 100 tabs open in Firefox :)
#3361 [16:04] <shapeshifter_ex> thats the only text on the screen
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#3363 [16:04] <xales> It opens in under four seconds
#3364 [16:04] <xales> \o/
#3365 [16:04] <Kealper> no, their webmasters suck major [censored] and their site only allows firefox/ie
#3366 [16:04] <shapeshifter_ex> lucky you
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#3368 [16:04] <shapeshifter_ex> wow thats gay
#3369 [16:04] <Kealper> xales: isn't Fx 4 awesome? lol
#3370 [16:04] <xales> nah, SSD + my CPU is :3
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#3372 [16:04] <Kealper> you forgot to * that by Fx4
#3373 [16:05] <xales> wut
#3374 [16:05] <HongKong> HELP PLEASE
#3375 [16:05] <Kealper> ?? ask
#3376 [16:05] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3377 [16:05] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3378 [16:05] <shapeshifter_ex> hongkon theres no caps allowed
#3379 [16:05] <Gatling> ssd is realy cool but very expensiv at the moment
#3380 [16:05] <shapeshifter_ex> kong*
#3381 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_ex: We don't take kindly to using 'gay' as an invective 'round these parts.
#3382 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_ex: please refrain from such bigoted terminology.
#3383 [16:06] <Kealper> oh, yeah, ^
#3384 [16:06] <shapeshifter_ex> i am sorry but i was mealy refering to the anagram gay
#3385 [16:06] <Kealper> didn't catch it :o
#3386 [16:06] <shapeshifter_ex> Get Away You
#3387 [16:06] <shapeshifter_ex> i.e. g.a.y.
#3388 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> Yeah.. no.
#3389 [16:06] <HongKong> it says "swithcing applet" when i start midcraft bu then turns off... what can i do?
#3390 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> Read the rules, this has been your warning.
#3391 [16:07] <shapeshifter_ex> gottcha
#3392 [16:07] <xales> HongKong: Update Java.
#3393 [16:07] <HongKong> it is
#3394 [16:07] <shapeshifter_ex> uninstall and re install
#3395 [16:07] <xales> ^
#3396 [16:07] <HongKong> what, Java?
#3397 [16:07] <shapeshifter_ex> both
#3398 [16:08] <shapeshifter_ex> minecraft 1st
#3399 [16:08] <shapeshifter_ex> then if that dosent work java
#3400 [16:08] <xales> HongKong: Yes, Java
#3401 [16:08] <HongKong> k... brb
#3402 [16:09] <xales> Hmm...
#3403 [16:09] <xales> goatse
#3404 [16:09] * AuBot kicked xales from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please keep it civil.)
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#3406 [16:09] <xales> yeah, I thought so
#3407 [16:09] <shapeshifter_ex> lulz
#3408 [16:09] <shapeshifter_ex> amazeing
#3409 [16:10] <BarryCarlyon> xales, goatse is disgusting!
#3410 [16:10] * AuBot kicked BarryCarlyon from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please keep it civil.)
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#3412 [16:10] <shapeshifter_ex> XD
#3413 [16:10] <Kealper> it makes no attempt to check context, or if the person is above it's pay grade
#3414 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> it's also.. down.
#3415 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: it should not; ops should not be immune from sanction
#3416 [16:11] <HongKong> no let me try java
#3417 [16:11] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: that was my exact thought process
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#3419 [16:11] <shapeshifter_ex> who is supreame mod here btw?
#3420 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> ChanServ
#3421 [16:11] <BarryCarlyon> The lord!
#3422 [16:11] <shapeshifter_ex> or admin i should say
#3423 [16:11] <BarryCarlyon> ALL HAIL CHANSERV! WE ARE NOT WORTHY!
#3424 [16:12] <Kealper> uhh...technically we're all basically on equal footing, but if you want to go with who has more channel flags, that'd be GreyVulpine
#3425 [16:12] <shapeshifter_ex> hmm ive never spoken with him
#3426 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> We're a communist democracy!
#3427 [16:12] <Kealper> ^
#3428 [16:12] <xales> ^
#3429 [16:12] <shapeshifter_ex> lulz
#3430 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> We share everything with everyone, and vote on policy. So yeah, that's actually rather apt.
#3431 [16:13] <shapeshifter_ex> is there a wrote list of words im not allowed to say?
#3432 [16:13] <xales> s/wrote//
#3433 [16:14] <shapeshifter_ex> written*
#3434 [16:14] <shapeshifter_ex> sorry brains off today T.T
#3435 [16:14] <xales> Common sense :)
#3436 [16:14] <xales> If you don't think you should say it, then don't
#3437 [16:15] <Kealper> pretty much, if you'd get fired for saying it to your boss, you'd probably be autokicked for saying it here
#3438 [16:15] <shapeshifter_ex> ehe i just wanted to read through it so i can laugh immaturely
#3439 [16:16] <shapeshifter_ex> btw any english people in here i have a qustion
#3440 [16:16] <shapeshifter_ex> hell or anyone that knows it
#3441 [16:16] <shapeshifter_ex> what time is "high tea"?
#3442 [16:16] <Kealper> noon?
#3443 [16:17] <shapeshifter_ex> thought so...
#3444 [16:17] <xales> com
#3445 [16:17] <xales> err
#3446 [16:17] <xales> what
#3447 [16:17] <xales> silly firefox
#3448 [16:17] <xales> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=high+tea
#3449 [16:17] <shapeshifter_ex> =.=
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#3451 [16:17] <BarryCarlyon> surely High Tea is all the time!
#3452 [16:18] <Skiz> guys can i ask you something
#3453 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_ex: IIRC, 1600 or 1630
#3454 [16:18] <shapeshifter_ex> gofor it
#3455 [16:18] <shapeshifter_ex> \thank you shost
#3456 [16:18] <HongKong> it says "swithcing applet" when i start midcraft bu then turns off... what can i do?
#3457 [16:18] <shapeshifter_ex> ghost*
#3458 [16:18] <shapeshifter_ex> ghoti*
#3459 [16:18] <shapeshifter_ex> o.o
#3460 [16:18] <Skiz> I was playing this server ragnacraft, great server had the Iconomy mods and whatever and no pvp, but it was located in the US and made me lagg like crazy
#3461 [16:19] <Skiz> now i've been looking for EU servers for the past hour to play now, but all of them are pvp are there any non pvp good ones
#3462 [16:19] <shapeshifter_ex> nothing you can do dont think but here what the pros saay about it
#3463 [16:19] <Skiz> with more than 20 players?
#3464 [16:19] <HongKong> it says "switching applet" when i start minecraft but then turns off... what can i do?
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#3466 [16:20] <peeves> how much is 14.95 in us currency?
#3467 [16:20] <shapeshifter_ex> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=EU+nonpvp+minecraft
#3468 [16:20] <Kealper> around $20
#3469 [16:20] <shapeshifter_ex> 22 dollars
#3470 [16:20] <Skiz> 14.95 euro?
#3471 [16:20] <shapeshifter_ex> boughtg the game friday
#3472 [16:20] <peeves> so minecrafts not 15 bucks ? D:
#3473 [16:20] <shapeshifter_ex> not for americans
#3474 [16:20] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#3475 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> $21.45
#3476 [16:21] <peeves> v.v why am i american
#3477 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> no, it's 15 Euro
#3478 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> hence the Euro symbol
#3479 [16:21] <shapeshifter_ex> its beause your mom decided to spit you out?
#3480 [16:21] <shapeshifter_ex> in america
#3481 [16:21] <peeves> dang it mom your the blame for everything
#3482 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: Childbirth, hocking a lugie.
#3483 [16:22] <shapeshifter_ex> wtf is TTANTS
#3484 [16:22] <shapeshifter_ex> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=TTANTS
#3485 [16:22] <Skiz> so does anyone know a good EU server without too much lagg with more than 20-30 players?
#3486 [16:22] <shapeshifter_ex> fuck you self
#3487 [16:22] <Kealper> language, please
#3488 [16:22] <shapeshifter_ex> sorry
#3489 [16:22] <Kealper> Skiz: http://mcserverlist.net
#3490 [16:23] <Skiz> to be honest these server lists are really poor have been sifting through them for the last 5 hours
#3491 [16:23] <shapeshifter_ex> ok
#3492 [16:23] <shapeshifter_ex> try to get one through the irc
#3493 [16:23] <Skiz> there should be a filter for pvp xD
#3494 [16:23] <shapeshifter_ex> i know a good server for
#3495 [16:23] <shapeshifter_ex> EU
#3496 [16:24] <Skiz> is it fast and can you play with more than 20 people?
#3497 [16:24] <Kealper> yeah, you could try checking in #smp to see if anyone there runs a server that meets what you want
#3498 [16:24] <shapeshifter_ex> no clue
#3499 [16:24] <shapeshifter_ex> ask oldtopmanserver
#3500 [16:24] <Skiz> ok
#3501 [16:24] <Skiz> ill go ask there ty
#3502 [16:25] <shapeshifter_ex> no one ever follows my advice =[
#3503 [16:25] <Skiz> lol noone there
#3504 [16:25] <Skiz> who is oldtopmanserver?
#3505 [16:25] <Kealper> lol.... wankercraft....that HAS to be a UK server lol
#3506 [16:25] <shapeshifter_ex> a friend
#3507 [16:25] <Skiz> obviously :P
#3508 [16:25] <Skiz> ok
#3509 [16:25] <shapeshifter_ex> hes a pretty cool guy XD
#3510 [16:25] <Skiz> is he online?
#3511 [16:26] <shapeshifter_ex> yea think hes gone though
#3512 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> My server is pretty cool
#3513 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> but it's because I only let pretty cool people play there.
#3514 [16:26] <Skiz> So can your server support more than 20 people and is it fast?
#3515 [16:26] <Skiz> for EU players (esp. NL)
#3516 [16:26] <shapeshifter_ex> he said only cool people.. >.>
#3517 [16:26] <shapeshifter_ex> ie his mod buddys
#3518 [16:27] <Kealper> it probably won't be for someone in NL
#3519 [16:27] <Kealper> dope's server is in the USA :/
#3520 [16:27] <Skiz> xD
#3521 [16:27] <shapeshifter_ex> =[
#3522 [16:27] <Skiz> ok
#3523 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> my mod buddies? My pals may be pretty mod, but the server is vanilla.
#3524 [16:27] <shapeshifter_ex> oldtopmanserver is from EU lol
#3525 [16:27] <Skiz> yeah I mean i was playing on this ragna whatever and it was pretty neat
#3526 [16:27] <Skiz> just that it was in the US
#3527 [16:28] <shapeshifter_ex> and i ment as in moderator not modifyer
#3528 [16:28] <shapeshifter_ex> modifier*
#3529 [16:28] <Skiz> lol I would basically mine and the block would come back the second after it disappeared than after 10 seconds it disappeared again
#3530 [16:28] <shapeshifter_ex> were you near the spawn?
#3531 [16:28] <shapeshifter_ex> that was prolly why XD
#3532 [16:28] <Skiz> nope
#3533 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> Skiz: yep, that's definitely either a lag issue or a mod-processing-delay issue
#3534 [16:28] <Kealper> wow, that's pretty laggy lol
#3535 [16:29] <Skiz> yes
#3536 [16:29] <Skiz> Actually i was playing on serenity
#3537 [16:29] <shapeshifter_ex> i want a creeper as a pet mod
#3538 [16:29] <shapeshifter_ex> =\
#3539 [16:29] <Skiz> which is a great server, but i realized im a bit too noob still
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#3541 [16:29] <Skiz> just want to have wilderness and experiment more, eso. nice if you can do it with more people
#3542 [16:30] <Skiz> (*esp)
#3543 [16:30] <Skiz> sorry for hijacking the channel btw xD
#3544 [16:30] <shapeshifter_ex> its fine
#3545 [16:30] <Kealper> not like anything else was going on
#3546 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> Skiz: s'long as it's not getting in the way of helping people, 'tis fine
#3547 [16:30] <Skiz> lol
#3548 [16:30] <shapeshifter_ex> they were getting onto me about curseing lol
#3549 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> (all together now)
#3550 [16:30] <shapeshifter_ex> do do do dooo
#3551 [16:32] <Skiz> tbh normally dutch servers are filled with kids
#3552 [16:32] <Skiz> so try to avoid them too :P
#3553 [16:32] <Kealper> lol
#3554 [16:32] <shapeshifter_ex> lol
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#3556 [16:32] <shapeshifter_ex> morrolan!
#3557 [16:33] <Morrolan> Hey
#3558 [16:33] <shapeshifter_ex> my friend
#3559 [16:33] <lemon-rev> mc update from shell isnt up, ?
#3560 [16:33] <Skiz> hi morrolan
#3561 [16:33] <Morrolan> Hey Skiz
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#3563 [16:34] <Skiz> trying another EU server
#3564 [16:35] <Skiz> again for those that have just joined if you know a good EU based server that's fast and can handle 20+ players please tell me :D
#3565 [16:35] <Morrolan> minecraft.lethal-zone.eu
#3566 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> ??> Skiz smp/servers
#3567 [16:35] <VoxelHead> Skiz: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3568 [16:35] <VoxelHead> Skiz: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3569 [16:35] <Morrolan> Server of lethal-zone.eu , a TF2, CSS, L4D community.
#3570 [16:35] <Skiz> oh and my german sucks
#3571 [16:35] <Skiz> although i can understand some of it
#3572 [16:35] <Morrolan> Dope: The problem is that these lists don't show the location I think.
#3573 [16:35] <Morrolan> Skiz: Most european servers have english as main language anyway.
#3574 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: that's what /sbin/traceroute is for
#3575 [16:36] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Not really suitable for your average user. ;)
#3576 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> Average is overrated (:
#3577 [16:36] <Skiz> lol
#3578 [16:37] <Skiz> hadnt seen reddit yet i think
#3579 [16:37] <Skiz> lol did you g15 that :)
#3580 [16:37] <Morrolan> g15?
#3581 [16:37] <Skiz> it's a keyboard with macro keys
#3582 [16:38] <Skiz> (18 macro keys, the logic is clear...)
#3583 [16:38] <Morrolan> Ah, so you WERE talking about the keyboard. I didn't really understood what the connection might be. ^^
#3584 [16:38] <Skiz> because voxelhead pasted some stuff right :)
#3585 [16:38] <Morrolan> If you're talking about what VoxelHead said, he is a FAQ bot.
#3586 [16:38] <Skiz> thanks though
#3587 [16:39] <ellisgeek> how do you use voxel
#3588 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> ??> ellisgeek help
#3589 [16:39] <VoxelHead> ellisgeek: (help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#3590 [16:39] <VoxelHead> ellisgeek: (help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#3591 [16:39] <Morrolan> So, for example, as Dope used: ??> Skiz smp/servers
#3592 [16:40] <Skiz> i see
#3593 [16:40] <Morrolan> AS Dope used or LIKE Dope used?
#3594 [16:40] <ellisgeek> ok
#3595 [16:40] <Skiz> i'm such a noob with IRC tbh
#3596 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> Skiz: we all were, once
#3597 [16:40] <ellisgeek> ??< index
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#3599 [16:40] <Morrolan> As it is, it seems.
#3600 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: depends on if you're making a metaphor or a simile
#3601 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> s/if/whether/
#3602 [16:41] <Morrolan> A simile it is.
#3603 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> "Life is a placebo masquerading as a simile."
#3604 [16:42] <Morrolan> Well, I've just googled "as vs like" and found this: "Like means "same form, appearance, kind, character" and is followed by a noun or noun phrase." and "As means "in the manner" and is followed by a clause (subj + verb)."
#3605 [16:42] <Skiz> ((went to a bilingual high school but forgot all the rules just apply them now..))
#3606 [16:43] <shapeshifter_ex> btw in the as vs. Like fight id give it to as
#3607 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> as -> "in the same manner"; like -> "in a similar manner"
#3608 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> so as is like like, but not.
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#3610 [16:48] <Skiz> *slaps self in the face* must find good servers
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#3617 [17:10] <Shuuji> need help pls again -.- xD
#3618 [17:10] <Shuuji> i hosted a server and i can connect to it
#3619 [17:10] <Shuuji> but a friend wants to connect too and it always say time out
#3620 [17:10] <Shuuji> why?
#3621 [17:10] <Shuuji> pls help ^^
#3622 [17:11] <xales> He is using the wrong IP, or you didn't port forward correctly
#3623 [17:11] <Kealper> what IP are you giving him?
#3624 [17:11] <aikaramba> 127.0.0.1
#3625 [17:11] <xales> really?
#3626 [17:11] <xales> ._.
#3627 [17:11] <Shuuji> 192.168.1.50
#3628 [17:11] <aikaramba> >_<
#3629 [17:11] <Kealper> Shuuji: type !myip
#3630 [17:12] <aikaramba> almost quessed
#3631 [17:12] <aikaramba> guessed*
#3632 [17:12] <aikaramba> :D
#3633 [17:12] <Shuuji> !myip
#3634 [17:12] <xales> Shuuji: That is a local address...that's why it doesn't work
#3635 [17:12] <Kealper> give your friend that ip
#3636 [17:12] <Shuuji> i have given that ip to him too
#3637 [17:12] <xales> it will only wokr if he is on the same connection as you.
#3638 [17:12] <xales> You need to port forward, then
#3639 [17:12] <aikaramba> yeah
#3640 [17:12] <aikaramba> :)
#3641 [17:12] <Shuuji> how do i do that?
#3642 [17:12] <aikaramba> you need to log into your router
#3643 [17:12] <aikaramba> and configure it under NAT
#3644 [17:13] <aikaramba> (network address translation)
#3645 [17:13] <aikaramba> or similar section
#3646 [17:13] <xales> Go to http://portforward.com and find the instructions for your router, and select Minecraft Server. If it asks you to download or buy something, don't.
#3647 [17:14] <Shuuji> ok i try
#3648 [17:17] <Skiz> does the message bad login or unkown host also appear if you're not on a white list?
#3649 [17:17] <xales> No
#3650 [17:17] <Kealper> no
#3651 [17:17] <Kealper> it will say "Not on white-list" if you are not whitelisted
#3652 [17:17] <Skiz> the top 10 of minecraft.dk all display that message
#3653 [17:18] <Skiz> except for maybe the US one's i'm skipping those
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#3655 [17:22] <umbridge> can anyone help me? im having trouble replacing my minecraft.jar file
#3656 [17:22] <xales> What do you mean, "replacing"?
#3657 [17:23] <umbridge> well i was told to delete it if i wanted to remove a texture pack. i was also told it would replace itself when i ran the game again
#3658 [17:23] <xales> That's correct...so what's the issue?
#3659 [17:23] <xales> Just delete it then re-run the game
#3660 [17:23] <umbridge> its not coming back, and the game just gets stuck at the loading screen
#3661 [17:23] <xales> ??> umbridge win/reinst
#3662 [17:23] <VoxelHead> umbridge: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3663 [17:23] <VoxelHead> umbridge: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3665 [17:24] <Shuuji> ...
#3666 [17:24] <umbridge> ok thank you very much
#3667 [17:25] <oldtopman> What happenned here?
#3668 [17:25] <Kealper> ?
#3669 [17:25] <oldtopman> <Shuuji> ...
#3670 [17:25] <oldtopman> <umbridge> ok thank you very much
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#3672 [17:25] <Skiz> toldtop?
#3673 [17:25] <Skiz> man
#3674 [17:25] <oldtopman> Yessir
#3675 [17:26] <Kealper> OH....
#3676 [17:26] <Skiz> your friend told me you hosted an EU server?
#3677 [17:26] <Kealper> i see, you just joined
#3678 [17:26] <oldtopman> :/
#3679 [17:26] <oldtopman> Umm, I have a US one.
#3680 [17:26] <Kealper> it was someone asking about how to reinstall minecraft
#3681 [17:26] <Skiz> lol
#3682 [17:26] <oldtopman> Colorado in fact
#3683 [17:26] <Skiz> facepalm
#3684 [17:26] <Skiz> self
#3685 [17:26] <Skiz> *to
#3686 [17:26] <Kealper> booo! Colorado sucks! Michigan is cooler! :P
#3687 [17:26] <Skiz> ok thanks
#3688 [17:26] <xales> I like Colorado :<
#3689 [17:27] <Skiz> I like zuid holland
#3690 [17:27] <Kealper> i don't actually like Michigan :>
#3691 [17:27] <oldtopman> We built a football stadium that didn't implode
#3692 [17:27] <oldtopman> Skiz: Are you looking for an EU server?
#3693 [17:27] <Skiz> yes :)
#3694 [17:28] <Skiz> and i fail time after time to find one
#3695 [17:28] <Skiz> i've tried to connect to all of them
#3696 [17:28] <xales> Skiz: What happens when you try to connect?
#3697 [17:28] <oldtopman> Skiz: You can try mine, no promises on performance though
#3698 [17:29] <Skiz> i just keep getting messages 'connection timed out: connect' bad login or the other one i said earlier
#3699 [17:29] <oldtopman> Skiz: Can I PM you?
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#3701 [17:29] <Skiz> sure
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#3703 [17:29] <xales> Skiz: What username are you trying to connect with?
#3704 [17:33] <Skiz> EU_Skizo
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#3707 [17:35] <xales> Skiz: Make sure you aren't clicking "play offline"
#3708 [17:35] <Skiz> lol you mean singleplayer?
#3709 [17:36] <xales> no, I mean, when you login to the game, don't click "Play Offline"
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#3711 [17:36] <Skiz> dont think so i just logged into a US server
#3712 [17:36] <Skiz> and have been playing on others
#3713 [17:36] <xales> oh, Kealper
#3714 [17:36] <xales> 12505khash/sec
#3715 [17:36] <xales> :3
#3716 [17:36] <Kealper> :<
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#3718 [17:37] <xales> and that's only using 75% of CPU
#3719 [17:37] <xales> :>
#3720 [17:37] <Kealper> i should try that on my computer lol
#3721 [17:37] <Blaher> hello
#3722 [17:37] <xales> Hi
#3723 [17:37] <Blaher> i could use a lil help
#3724 [17:37] <xales> With?
#3725 [17:37] <Blaher> i have tried to open the game several times
#3726 [17:37] <Blaher> and it just gives me a pop up and says there was a fatal exception
#3727 [17:38] <xales> What, exactly, does it say?
#3728 [17:38] <Blaher> a fatat exception occured. program will exit
#3729 [17:39] <Blaher> and the header is java virtual machine launcher
#3730 [17:39] <aikaramba> btw, can i play minecraft on different computers legally? As long as only i am playing and on one computer at a time?
#3731 [17:39] <xales> aikaramba: Yes
#3732 [17:39] <xales> Blaher: Re-install Java.
#3733 [17:39] <Blaher> k
#3734 [17:40] <aikaramba> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Nipples.jpg
#3735 [17:40] <aikaramba> ups
#3736 [17:40] <aikaramba> sorry
#3737 [17:40] <aikaramba> wrong chan
#3738 [17:46] <aikaramba> can i get the seed of currently generated world?
#3739 [17:46] <BarryCarlyon> aikaramba, its in level.dat
#3740 [17:46] <xales> Open level.dat with NBTEdit
#3741 [17:47] <BarryCarlyon> If you can decode it. There are several tools.
#3742 [17:47] <aikaramba> hmm
#3743 [17:47] <aikaramba> i just generated a world
#3744 [17:47] <aikaramba> and there was like 10 pumpkins
#3745 [17:47] <aikaramba> at the spawn
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#3747 [17:47] <I_Eat_Plastic> aikaramba, are you going to punch them?
#3748 [17:47] <aikaramba> DYNAMITE! >D
#3749 [17:48] <tehjagjr> Anyone here good redstone?
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#3751 [17:48] <aikaramba> 12 pumpkins
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#3753 [17:50] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> Ok is anyone else having this problem?
#3754 [17:50] <Morrolan> Yes!
#3755 [17:50] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> any time i try to connect to a server i get the same error message
#3756 [17:50] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> connection lost <html>
#3757 [17:50] <Morrolan> Oh, well, then maybe not. :p
#3758 [17:50] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> ??
#3759 [17:50] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> ive opened my ports and still
#3760 [17:50] <tehjagjr> Is anyone here good with Redstone?
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#3762 [17:50] <xales> Are you using any sort of parental controls on your computer?
#3763 [17:50] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> no
#3764 [17:50] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> im Admin
#3765 [17:51] <xales> Go to http://minecraft.net/ in your browser
#3766 [17:51] <xales> Does that work normally?
#3767 [17:51] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> yes
#3768 [17:51] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> i play off of that
#3769 [17:51] <xales> Try a different server?
#3770 [17:52] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> Every server ive tryed has the same results..
#3771 [17:52] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> tried**
#3772 [17:52] <xales> Do you have any sort of "antivirus/Internet security" software running
#3773 [17:53] <Morrolan> Did it ever work before?
#3774 [17:53] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> no it didn't and im running norton.
#3775 [17:53] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> yeah i know.
#3776 [17:53] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> norton=fail
#3777 [17:53] <xales> Then remove it? :P
#3778 [17:53] <Morrolan> Hmm? I prefer it over McAfee tbh.
#3779 [17:54] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> yeah.
#3780 [17:54] <xales> I'd use Norton over McAfee, but both still suck horribly :P
#3781 [17:54] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> yeah taproot any good?
#3782 [17:54] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> webroot** lol
#3783 [17:54] <xales> Use Avira
#3784 [17:54] <Morrolan> xales: Kinda ot, but which security software are you preferring then?
#3785 [17:54] <Morrolan> Oh, too slow.
#3786 [17:54] <xales> Avira, slow?
#3787 [17:55] <xales> It's far faster than Norton
#3788 [17:55] <Morrolan> Me
#3789 [17:55] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> yeah well ok firewall is down and same issue
#3790 [17:55] <Morrolan> I was too slow.
#3791 [17:55] <xales> ah
#3792 [17:55] <xales> MIEKFAUSTEAR: Completely disable Norton, not just the firewall component
#3793 [17:55] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> ahh ok
#3794 [17:56] <xales> Also, Avira is free
#3795 [17:56] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> same issue
#3796 [17:56] <xales> don't bother with the paid version :)
#3797 [17:56] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> wtf man
#3798 [17:56] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> ahh yeah
#3799 [17:56] <xales> Try going to https://minecraft.net
#3800 [17:56] <MIEKFAUSTEAR> im just gonna mess around on free version
#3801 [17:56] <xales> ...
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#3803 [17:58] <Morrolan> Hmm, is the title of an image somewhere displayed ingame?
#3804 [17:58] <Morrolan> picture*
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#3845 [18:13] <Morrolan> Oh well, was too long since the last one I guess.
#3846 [18:13] <Shuuji> hey again ^^
#3847 [18:13] <Shuuji> can someone explain me how i can port-forward for minecraft? ^^
#3848 [18:14] <Morrolan> Do you know how to get to the page of your router?
#3849 [18:14] <Shuuji> yeah im already at it ^^
#3850 [18:14] <Morrolan> Ok then, log in, and there should be a page called port forwarding or whatever. Found it?
#3851 [18:14] <Shuuji> yerah
#3852 [18:14] <Shuuji> im at
#3853 [18:15] <Shuuji> i activated it
#3854 [18:15] <Morrolan> Ok, now, you'll have to forward port 25565 TCP
#3855 [18:15] <Morrolan> And you'll have to enter the internal IP of your server somewhere.
#3856 [18:15] <Shuuji> extern or intern?
#3857 [18:15] <Shuuji> start or end?
#3858 [18:15] <Morrolan> Intern
#3859 [18:15] <Shuuji> start and end?
#3860 [18:16] <Morrolan> 25565 goes into both, start and end.
#3861 [18:16] <Morrolan> Or the IP?
#3862 [18:16] <Shuuji> 25565 - 25565?
#3863 [18:16] <Morrolan> Yep
#3864 [18:16] <Shuuji> ok i got ^^
#3865 [18:17] <Morrolan> Ok. Now you can check wheter you've done it correctly by using !check externalipofseverhere
#3866 [18:17] <Morrolan> While the server is running, that is.
#3867 [18:19] <Shuuji> opk it works thx alot!!!!
#3868 [18:21] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
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#3872 [18:25] <eShogun> :<
#3873 [18:25] <eShogun> Minecraft crashed during a 30-minute crop growing test
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#3876 [18:27] <implord> hello again everyone
#3877 [18:28] <implord> is there a way to get the seed of a local single player game so i can start the map over??
#3878 [18:28] <Morrolan> Yep, it's stored in the level.dat file. Use NBTEdit to open it.
#3879 [18:29] <implord> what is nbtedit?? sorry i dont know :(
#3880 [18:29] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=7868
#3881 [18:29] <implord> ty >:D<
#3882 [18:32] <Morrolan> Hmm, was it this channel where one of the bots had a lmgtfy command?
#3883 [18:32] <Morrolan> !lmgtfy test
#3884 [18:32] <Morrolan> Hmm. :/
#3885 [18:32] <Morrolan> !letme Test
#3886 [18:32] <Morrolan> Oh well, anyway.
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#3888 [18:34] <Morrolan> !help
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#3894 [18:47] <registerhelpneeded> #help
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#3896 [18:47] <registerhelpneeded> hello
#3897 [18:48] <registerhelpneeded> I need help when ever i got to register it dont do anything only send me back to the registrationscreen to fill out me name and email and such again'
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#3906 [18:57] <Marcusvon10> Hello?
#3907 [18:57] <Marcusvon10> I need help, you guys remember "Bad Login", and "End of Stream" right?
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#3909 [18:57] <Tenus> Hello
#3910 [18:58] <Marcusvon10> WEll that happens every single time I try to join any server.
#3911 [18:58] <Tenus> I have a Centos 5 server. Could anyone please tell me what is the fastest way to back-up the whole server?
#3912 [18:59] <Marcusvon10> No one is answering. Sorry
#3913 [18:59] <Tenus> I've thought of compressing all the data into a file via SSH... But I'm not sure if that is the fastest way.
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#3915 [18:59] <BlackMoon> Tenus: im not fimilar with that mod, but im sure theres some block related solution to your problem.
#3916 [18:59] <Marcusvon10> Can anyone help me?
#3917 [18:59] <Tenus> lol
#3918 [19:00] <BlackMoon> Hmmm theres an idea for a mod
#3919 [19:00] <BlackMoon> world backup/raid.
#3920 [19:00] <Tenus> damn it
#3921 [19:00] <BlackMoon> Copys your current area into a new area in the world.
#3922 [19:00] <Marcusvon10> I can't connect to any SMP server out there, please help.
#3923 [19:00] <BlackMoon> So you have a copy to blow up, or restore from
#3924 [19:00] <BlackMoon> Raid would be multiple copys that self correct peroditicly. :P
#3925 [19:01] <BlackMoon> Raid5 antigreifer world FTW!
#3926 [19:01] <Marcusvon10> No one is helping, I'm out!
#3927 [19:01] <BlackMoon> To get anything done two people need to make the exact same changes at once! :P
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#3932 [19:12] <drezi> i need help with bettershop
#3933 [19:12] <drezi> it keeps saying missing a dependency
#3934 [19:12] <drezi> when iconomy is installed
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#3938 [19:30] <Captain-Lightning[2]> PcJamesy, I have come for your soul.
#3939 [19:30] <PcJamesy> ok
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#3947 [19:35] <Marcusvon10> Anyone here to help me?
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#3950 [19:37] <Marcusvon10> I need help, you guys remember "Bad Login", and "End of Stream" right? Well that is what happens every time I try to connect to a server
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#3960 [19:40] <Marcusvon10> Anyone?
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#3962 [19:42] <Marcusvon10> *Yawn*
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#3966 [19:43] <AWildbliWA> PENIS
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#3968 [19:43] <Marcusvon10> I need help, you guys remember "Bad Login", and "End of Stream" right?
#3969 [19:43] <Marcusvon10> Well that is what happens every time I try to connect to a server
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#3973 [19:44] <Marcusvon10> Wow...
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#3975 [19:45] <Lunamon> Marcusvon10: You've asked that question at least three times now
#3976 [19:45] <Marcusvon10> Well no one was answering and I thought it dissapeared.
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#3978 [19:46] <Marcusvon10> Does that mean no one knows the answer?
#3979 [19:46] <Marcusvon10> I really don't like paying for something I can't use.
#3980 [19:46] <Blackthorne> You could try deleting your .minecraft folder and redownloading the game.
#3981 [19:47] <Marcusvon10> Allright I will try that.
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#3983 [19:48] <Marcusvon10> Well no luck.
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#3985 [19:48] <Marcusvon10> Does this happen to a lot of people, or just me?
#3986 [19:49] <Blackthorne> Did you actualy try it?
#3987 [19:49] <Blackthorne> Because you weren't gone long.
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#3989 [19:49] <Marcusvon10> Yeah, I got good internet :P
#3990 [19:49] <Blackthorne> Can you use singleplayer?
#3991 [19:49] <Marcusvon10> It doesn't take that long anways.
#3992 [19:49] <Marcusvon10> Yes I can.
#3993 [19:50] <Blackthorne> Is it just 1 server you can't connect to?
#3994 [19:50] <Blackthorne> Or is it all of them?
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#3996 [19:50] <Marcusvon10> I've been having this problem for awhile, I just was playing Singleplayer a lot.
#3997 [19:50] <Blackthorne> So it's all servers?
#3998 [19:50] <Marcusvon10> Well I tryed several and can't connect to any of them.
#3999 [19:50] <Blackthorne> Must be your connection then.
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#4001 [19:51] <Marcusvon10> No, it just says bad connection.
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#4004 [19:51] <Marcusvon10> It is deffintly not my connection.
#4005 [19:51] <Marcusvon10> bad login** sorry lol.
#4006 [19:51] <Blackthorne> Do you share the account with anyone?
#4007 [19:52] <Marcusvon10> I used too, now he's been gone for quite some time.
#4008 [19:52] <Marcusvon10> Haven't seen him since err start of the beta maybe?
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#4010 [19:52] <Blackthorne> If the account is logged in in another area it will give you that.
#4011 [19:52] <Marcusvon10> We've been in different timezones so it's not a problem
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#4014 [19:55] <Marcusvon10> I think he stopped playing, so it's pretty much my account.
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#4016 [19:55] <Blackthorne> Closing the game and logging in again usually fixes that.
#4017 [19:55] <Blackthorne> Wait
#4018 [19:55] <Marcusvon10> I've done that like 50 times, I'm telling you this happens every day.
#4019 [19:55] <Blackthorne> When I said delete your .minecraft folder did you delete the program or the actual .minecraft server?
#4020 [19:56] <Blackthorne> folder*
#4021 [19:56] <Blackthorne> Not server.
#4022 [19:56] <Marcusvon10> The whole .minecraft folder.
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#4024 [19:56] <Blackthorne> Is it your account or his?
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#4026 [19:56] <Marcusvon10> Well it's mine now
#4027 [19:56] <Blackthorne> Chances are he's logged in and it's knocked you out.
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#4029 [19:57] <Marcusvon10> I gave him half the money we used his paypal, i don't know his information so I havve no proof :(
#4030 [19:57] <Marcusvon10> Every single day I open Minecraft?
#4031 [19:57] <Blackthorne> Possibly.
#4032 [19:57] <Marcusvon10> And me and him where playing at the same time on two different servers.
#4033 [19:57] <Blackthorne> Yes.
#4034 [19:58] <Blackthorne> Wait.
#4035 [19:58] <Marcusvon10> The same account can go on different servers.
#4036 [19:58] <Blackthorne> That shouldn't be possible.
#4037 [19:58] <Marcusvon10> WEll we did it...
#4038 [19:58] <Marcusvon10> IMaybe it was a bug or something, it was awhile ago.
#4039 [19:59] <Wug> same account on different servers works
#4040 [19:59] <Wug> same account on same server is derpy
#4041 [19:59] <Marcusvon10> We didn't do same account same server. We play on different servers.
#4042 [20:00] <Wug> that should work fine then
#4043 [20:00] <Blackthorne> I have let my friends try minecraft with my account, and when they logged in I would get the bad login message.
#4044 [20:00] <Marcusvon10> Is there a way I can change the email to mine?
#4045 [20:00] <Wug> afaik you can't change the email address associated w/ accts
#4046 [20:00] <Marcusvon10> Well he is not online right now, and when I try to get on a serrver it says bad login.
#4047 [20:02] <Marcusvon10> I'm sorry but I'm really frustrated with this.
#4048 [20:06] <Marcusvon10> So no more theories on how this isn't working?
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#4054 [20:12] <Marcusvon10> Well I appriciate you trying to help, but nothing worked.
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#4057 [20:14] <Marcusvon10> Wow, I'll try again tommorow bye
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#4065 [20:19] <ayelikecawk> :D
#4066 [20:19] <ayelikecawk> how do i get diamond
#4067 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> ayelikecawk: dig for it
#4068 [20:20] <ayelikecawk> 911 never happend
#4069 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> I'm pretty sure people dial that number pretty regularly
#4070 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> There was even a TV show about it for a while.
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#4075 [21:00] <DSiGameMaster> I made a server, And i'm woundering, How do i use "compile" for the custom Commands? I read /help compiler but i don't get it.
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#4089 [21:44] <Masna> Hey, can anyone help me with some troubleshooting?
#4090 [21:44] <oldtopman> ??> Masna ask
#4091 [21:44] <VoxelHead> Masna: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#4092 [21:44] <VoxelHead> Masna: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4093 [21:45] <Masna> oh okay sorry :p
#4094 [21:45] <Masna> I just bought Minecraft for mac and when I fullscreen the game my inventory does not open
#4095 [21:45] <Masna> is the control for inventory 'I
#4096 [21:46] <Masna> for mac aswell?
#4097 [21:46] <oldtopman> They changed the default key to "E"
#4098 [21:46] <xolotl> Masna: No it's E
#4099 [21:46] <oldtopman> As of 1.5
#4100 [21:47] * xolotl shakes a fist at oldtopman
#4100 [21:47] <Masna> oh, okay, thanks for the help :)
#4101 [21:47] <oldtopman> xolotl: Ninja'd
#4102 [21:47] <xolotl> Masna: Though you should be able to change it in the options
#4103 [21:47] <xolotl> oldtopman: ha HA!
#4104 [21:47] * xolotl provides MORE information
#4104 [21:47] <Masna> haha, thanks have a good day :)
#4105 [21:47] <oldtopman> Masna: Whose answer has the most info?
#4106 [21:47] <oldtopman> had*
#4107 [21:48] * xolotl still hasn't played enough in 1.5 to break the habit of using "I"
#4107 [21:49] <xolotl> I'm sure I'll find it more natural eventually, but for now it's always a <tap>, <tap>, <look down at keyboard>, <tap>, "oh bugger."
#4108 [21:49] <oldtopman> xolotl: I changed my key back to I
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#4111 [21:59] <kermit> hey there
#4112 [22:01] <kermit> Does anybody know how you can change your name on your minecraft account?
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#4115 [22:17] <kermit> anybody alive in here?
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