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#2 [00:00] <weet> So I host a hamachi server using Bukkit
#3 [00:00] <weet> and for some reason only two people lag on my server
#4 [00:00] <weet> any clues why?
#5 [00:02] <xolotl> weet: Out of how many? Perhaps those peoples' connections are slow
#6 [00:02] <weet> I had them do a speed test, and there speed is fine
#7 [00:02] <weet> could it maybe be me?
#8 [00:02] <weet> considering I only have like 1MB up speed
#9 [00:03] <xolotl> weet: Well again, how many users total?
#10 [00:03] <xolotl> 1MB up would be fine for a few folks, though I gather that the newer protocol versions are chattier than the old ones
#11 [00:03] <weet> I'm literally hosting about 2-3 people
#12 [00:04] <weet> most of the time is 1 person
#13 [00:04] <xolotl> So you're saying basically that *everyone* lags? :)
#14 [00:04] <weet> well I've had 2 others that dont lag
#15 [00:05] <xolotl> You're not doing a great job of pinpointing the problem. Basically: is there a correlation between lag and the number of people connected at one time?
#16 [00:06] <weet> To be honest I can't even describe the problem myself
#17 [00:06] <xolotl> Each connection will take a certain amount of bandwidth. If you get no lag when one person's connected, some lag when there's two, and even more when there's three, then your bandwidth wouldn't appear to be sufficient at the moment
#18 [00:07] <weet> The thing is, I don't lag. The others lag.
#19 [00:07] <xolotl> There *have* been widespread reports of lagginess in general; I think the protocol is kind of touchy at the moment.
#20 [00:07] <xolotl> weet: Are you on your local network?
#21 [00:07] <xolotl> weet: The same network as the server?
#22 [00:07] <weet> yea. well I'm using the hamachi method
#23 [00:07] <weet> if that changes anything
#24 [00:07] <xolotl> I've never used hamachi
#25 [00:08] <weet> it's pretty much a program
#26 [00:08] <weet> so you dont have to port forward
#27 [00:08] <weet> and all this random shii
#28 [00:08] <xolotl> But regardless: are you on the same network as the server?
#29 [00:08] <weet> yea
#30 [00:08] <xolotl> Okay, well then of course you won't get lag
#31 [00:08] <xolotl> :)
#32 [00:09] <xolotl> So: if you get lag even when there's only one person connected, then it's pretty likely to be the protocol-touchiness.
#33 [00:09] <xolotl> 'cause 1MB up should be more than sufficient for a single connection
#34 [00:09] <weet> maybe I'll have my friend host
#35 [00:09] <weet> who knows
#36 [00:09] <weet> he has FIOS. upload speed up the ass
#37 [00:09] <xolotl> If you have a really extensive Minecart system, that can cause lagginess
#38 [00:09] <xolotl> Or some extreme numbers of mobs, etc
#39 [00:10] <weet> its just a basic server
#40 [00:10] <weet> basic SMP
#41 [00:10] <xolotl> But again, recent protocol versions do appear to be touchier than they used to be
#42 [00:10] <weet> meh
#43 [00:10] <weet> notch needs to make stuff
#44 [00:11] <xolotl> I was helping someone diagnose a laggy connection on their end, while watching the actual traffic, and it was clearly not actually a bandwidth-limiting issue
#45 [00:11] <xolotl> (in that case, anyway)
#46 [00:11] <weet> wow I just read what I said
#47 [00:11] <weet> "notch needs to make stuff"
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#50 [00:41] <Captain-Lightning> Does anyone know if multiple instances of the same account are able to play at the same time when offline?
#51 [00:41] <Captain-Lightning> It seems like it would be a yes
#52 [00:41] <Captain-Lightning> Because in my two main abodes I have two different saves and I'd like to be able to VNC to my machine and let my farm grow
#53 [00:41] <Captain-Lightning> Because yes, I am that damn lazy
#54 [00:43] <xolotl> Captain-Lightning: I think that's possible, yes
#55 [00:43] <Captain-Lightning> Now...
#56 [00:43] <xolotl> Captain-Lightning: The only problem would be if you were trying to connect to the same SMP server with two clients at the same time... I think one of those would be denied.
#57 [00:43] <Captain-Lightning> Now if only I could transfer resources between saves :(
#58 [00:44] <Captain-Lightning> I've been sort of rationalizing with myself that if I make x resources on one save
#59 [00:44] <xolotl> There's always invedit
#60 [00:44] <xolotl> :)
#61 [00:44] <Captain-Lightning> I can invedit and delete them
#62 [00:44] <Captain-Lightning> and then invedit and add them to the other.
#63 [00:44] <Captain-Lightning> >_>
#64 [00:44] <xolotl> If you're willing to use mods, I seem to think that there's a mod that does sort of in-game invediting
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#69 [01:14] <Null> how do i reload minecraft from inside debian?
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#72 [01:16] <xales> Null: "reload"?
#73 [01:16] <Null> what do i need to be in though?
#74 [01:16] <Null> like what folder?
#75 [01:16] <xales> If my previous statement wasn't obvious enough, I don't understand what you are talking about.
#76 [01:17] <Null> ..
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#78 [01:17] <Null> i want to reload the plugins basically... but im not sure how to do it
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#80 [01:18] <xales> If it's Bukkit-related, #bukkit can help much more than we can.
#81 [01:18] <Null> ok
#82 [01:18] <luckybunny> I'm having a problem
#83 [01:18] <Null> thanks
#84 [01:18] <luckybunny> every time I try to break a block, the game disappears
#85 [01:18] <xales> luckybunny: "disappears"?
#86 [01:18] <luckybunny> this is both the client version and the online version
#87 [01:19] <xales> Does it close entirely, or does the screen turn black?
#88 [01:19] <xales> "disappears" is not a descriptive word.
#89 [01:19] <luckybunny> the client disappears completely as in no longer visible, the browser applet goes blank
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#91 [01:20] <luckybunny> it closes
#92 [01:20] <xales> Has it just started doing this, or has it always done it?
#93 [01:20] <luckybunny> it has done so ever since I started playing, which was around an hour ago
#94 [01:20] <luckybunny> :P
#95 [01:20] <xales> ??> luckybunny win/dxdiag
#96 [01:21] <VoxelHead> luckybunny: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#97 [01:21] <VoxelHead> luckybunny: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#98 [01:22] <luckybunny> hmmm... how about linux?
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#100 [01:22] <xales> luckybunny: What distro?
#101 [01:22] <xales> Ubuntu?
#102 [01:22] <luckybunny> yup
#103 [01:23] <xales> Open a Terminal window, run `sudo lshw` and pastebin the output
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#105 [01:24] <luckybunny> http://pastebin.com/tfNHH6xW
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#107 [01:25] <xales> Holy crap...
#108 [01:26] <xales> Your computer has an NV15DDR [GeForce2 Ti]...
#109 [01:26] <luckybunny> yup
#110 [01:26] <xales> that won't run Minecraft...not even close
#111 [01:26] <xales> it's over _ten years_ old
#112 [01:27] <luckybunny> it does ok right up until block breaking
#113 [01:27] <xales> The card is definately the issue here
#114 [01:28] <luckybunny> I could probably switch out compiz for something a little less taxing and see if that helps
#115 [01:28] <xales> It's not a utilization issue
#116 [01:28] <luckybunny> ah
#117 [01:28] <xales> The card literally doesn't support modern technologies
#118 [01:28] <xales> (which Minecraft makes use of)
#119 [01:30] <luckybunny> ok
#120 [01:30] <luckybunny> Time for a new one?
#121 [01:30] <xales> For sure
#122 [01:31] <luckybunny> okido
#123 [01:31] <luckybunny> thanks :)
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#132 [02:03] <Salty_> anyone familiar with MineOS?
#133 [02:04] <Salty_> specifically, the linux command to force a RAMDISK to commit its info the the HDD
#134 [02:05] <Salty_> *to the HDD
#135 [02:07] <Salty_> nvm i think it was filetool.sh
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#144 [02:38] <Rustywolf> GUys
#145 [02:38] <Rustywolf> Can a minecraft run on 512 mb?
#146 [02:39] <Rustywolf> i mean minecraft server...
#147 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> It's possible, but you're not going to be able to run many off that
#148 [02:40] <Rustywolf> i might go 728 than
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#160 [03:11] <The> Hello
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#166 [03:36] <Silent_Samurai> How do I actually access the files in my Public folder?
#167 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#168 [03:37] <Silent_Samurai> Do I just go to myip:8080/Public/fileIwant.to.see
#169 [03:37] <Silent_Samurai> ?
#170 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> Have no idea what public folder you're talking about, using what?
#171 [03:38] <Silent_Samurai> Oh fuck are you kidding me
#172 [03:38] <Silent_Samurai> I'm talking in the wrong channel
#173 [03:38] <Silent_Samurai> FUck me
#174 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#175 [03:38] <Silent_Samurai> I thought I was in #McMyAdmin
#176 [03:38] <Silent_Samurai> Sorry!
#177 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> Aaah..
#178 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> No worries
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#180 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#181 [03:41] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.671 seconds.
#182 [03:42] <xales> !pong
#183 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#184 [03:42] <xales> <.<
#185 [03:44] <NotiCon> >.>
#186 [03:44] <xales> v.v
#187 [03:44] <NotiCon> ^.^
#188 [03:44] <NotiCon> why is qt and pipes so retarded together?
#189 [03:44] <xales> what?
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#191 [03:46] <NotiCon> qt and pipes doesnt work very well together :/
#192 [03:47] <xales> How so?
#193 [03:47] <NotiCon> but could be cause the other end of the pipe havent been connected yet
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#205 [04:26] <Bloodngore> hi.
#206 [04:26] <Bloodngore> can i get some help plx? :]
#207 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> With?
#208 [04:26] <Bloodngore> Getting Failed to connect to port
#209 [04:26] <Bloodngore> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.5_02 [INFO] Loading properties [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 192.168.0.1:25565 [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT! [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#210 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#211 [04:26] <Bloodngore> port is forwarded
#212 [04:26] <Bloodngore> i mean open
#213 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> Remove the ip from server-ip in server.properties
#214 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> save, and restart the server
#215 [04:27] <Bloodngore> ok gonna try it now. connecting via localhost:25565
#216 [04:27] <Bloodngore> works :)
#217 [04:28] <Bloodngore> (y)
#218 [04:28] <Bloodngore> you rock :d
#219 [04:28] <Bloodngore> many many thanks
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#223 [04:39] <Morrolan> Notch really should put a warning to that property. :/
#224 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> Meh, yeah
#225 [04:42] <NotiCon> someone should make a guide to that server.properties file
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#228 [04:46] <IamSam> Anybody know the trick for sticking pressure plates onto fences?
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#230 [04:52] <Morrolan> IamSam: Hmm, nope.
#231 [04:53] <IamSam> Well, balls.
#232 [04:53] <IamSam> Thanks anyways.
#233 [04:53] <Morrolan> Do you have a screenshot or something?
#234 [04:54] <IamSam> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrCJSkyIQS4
#235 [04:54] <IamSam> Around 0:30
#236 [04:54] <Morrolan> Also, did you already try to place the pressure plate on a nearby sign or something?
#237 [04:55] <Morrolan> There you go:
#238 [04:55] <Morrolan> http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/g3fyn/minecraft_table_cannot_figure_out_how_to_create/
#239 [04:55] <IamSam> Thanks a ton!
#240 [04:55] <IamSam> May I ask what you googled for to get that?
#241 [04:56] <IamSam> I thought I'd tried everything to search for it.
#242 [04:56] <Morrolan> "Minecraft pressure plate fence"
#243 [04:56] <IamSam> :/
#244 [04:56] <Morrolan> Third result for me. :D
#245 [04:56] <IamSam> Whelp, I feel stupid, thanks a ton
#246 [04:56] <Morrolan> No problem. :)
#247 [04:59] <Morrolan> Yea, just confirmed that it works. Use the num keys to switch though, else you won't be fast enough. :)
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#249 [05:02] <mib_okc55g> hello?
#250 [05:03] <Morrolan> Hey
#251 [05:03] <mib_okc55g> Help thingy right ? XD
#252 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> For minecraft, yes
#253 [05:04] <Morrolan> Yep
#254 [05:04] <mib_okc55g> It wont run _-_
#255 [05:04] <mib_okc55g> sucks
#256 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
#257 [05:04] <mib_okc55g> sorry yes
#258 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you running? How are you trying to launch it?
#259 [05:05] <Morrolan> What happens if you try to run it?
#260 [05:05] <mib_okc55g> I have the Minecraft_Server and i set it up and everything it works well comes up with Done and the world never shows. Im using windows XP professional
#261 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> When you run the minecraft_server, you'll need to launch the client as well to connect to it
#262 [05:06] <mib_okc55g> hmm....
#263 [05:06] <mib_okc55g> excuse me for being dumb btw _-_
#264 [05:06] <Morrolan> Ok, so when the server is running start up Minecraft, choose Multiplayer and type in "localhost"
#265 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> ^
#266 [05:06] <Morrolan> (without the ""s)
#267 [05:07] <mib_okc55g> Browser or exe?
#268 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Either
#269 [05:07] <mib_okc55g> ok..
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#272 [05:10] <mib_okc55g> I cant log in do i need to pre order the game first?
#273 [05:11] <IamSam> Yeah, you do.
#274 [05:11] <mib_okc55g> oh i see
#275 [05:11] <mib_okc55g> Ill have to wait a bit then :)
#276 [05:11] <mib_okc55g> thankyou
#277 [05:11] <IamSam> No problem :)
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#292 [06:27] <asnoehu> is there like a latest status report on v 1.6?
#293 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> http://notch.tumblr.com/
#294 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> "1.6 officially has a release date of “not soon”"
#295 [06:30] <asnoehu> yes, I did see that
#296 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> Other than that, there's no new ETA
#297 [06:30] <asnoehu> but maybe some more specific inside info or something :P
#298 [06:30] <SlashLife> That's still better than a release date of "DNF"
#299 [06:31] <SlashLife> A development status would be interesting, but it still would be inaccurate and most people would only be pissed off at all the "But THAT item did only take one day to fix. This other one is faaaaaar easier, why do you claim it takes two weeks?"
#300 [06:32] <SlashLife> Btw.: I don't think that the 1.6 announced will really be the 1.6 we'll get. ;)
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#302 [06:33] <SlashLife> I'm quite certain that the feature set announced for 1.6 will actually be 1.7 or 1.8 and that there'll be one or two releases befoer the goal set.
#303 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Why's that?
#304 [06:33] <SlashLife> But if you have a goal set, you can start walking ... and it keeps a lot of people nagging for new features away.
#305 [06:34] <SlashLife> Experience as a developer.
#306 [06:34] <SlashLife> And a little experience in politics.
#307 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> I mean, 1.5, only has wolves and weather promised, but notch experienced feature creep, and then some
#308 [06:34] <SlashLife> You can't just switch your release scheme from one day to another to something that most people feel starveed to death with.
#309 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Notch has been pretty good lately with promising features prior to version announcements
#310 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> So far, nether support in SMP for 1.6, and maps.
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#312 [06:38] <asnoehu> I am looking forward to nether in smp
#313 [06:38] <asnoehu> never been in nether
#314 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Definitely
#315 [06:38] <asnoehu> never did sp anyway :P
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#317 [06:40] <BlackMoon> Still havent found a 3rd diamond to get to nether -_-;
#318 [06:40] <BlackMoon> Found 2!
#319 [06:41] <BlackMoon> I mean I guess I could cast a gate in place, but thats cheating..
#320 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> nothing wrong with that
#321 [06:42] <BlackMoon> yea but it also takes a lot of lava, heh.
#322 [06:42] <asnoehu> why need diamont to go to nether?
#323 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> Need diamond to mine obsidian
#324 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Need obsidian to build portal
#325 [06:43] <asnoehu> you can also make it with bucket and cobblestone
#326 [06:43] <asnoehu> an lava
#327 [06:43] <asnoehu> you make the shape with cobblestone
#328 [06:43] <asnoehu> en make obsydian with water
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#331 [06:46] <BlackMoon> asnoehu: yea, though then you have no way in hell at removing the damn thing
#332 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> And if your obsidian portal in the nether takes a hit, you have no way of getting back, without having obsidian stocked in your inventory
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#334 [06:51] <_303> GreyVulpine: ghast fireballs can also reignite portals if you direct ghast towards a portal
#335 [06:51] <asnoehu> ?
#336 [06:51] <asnoehu> why remove it?
#337 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> Sure.
#338 [06:51] <asnoehu> and how it can break?
#339 [06:51] <asnoehu> obsydian is indestructable right?
#340 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> No, it's just really really hard to destroy
#341 [06:53] <asnoehu> I havnt a clue actually how the nether works :O
#342 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Basically, it's a seperate world, for each block you travel in the nether, it corresponds horizontally to 8 blocks in the overworld
#343 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Has its own special blocks, water can't exist naturally in it
#344 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Has lava everywhere
#345 [06:54] <BlackMoon> GreyVulpine: takes a hit from what? a thermonuclear creeper?
#346 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#347 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#348 [06:54] <BlackMoon> oh never knew the nether was scaled, thats awsome.
#349 [06:55] <BlackMoon> so I could make little safe wormholes in the nether?
#350 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> Sure, at least in SP
#351 [06:55] <BlackMoon> nifty.
#352 [06:55] <BlackMoon> man im allways amazed at the shit people make in minecraft.
#353 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> And what I meant to say was, if the ground around the portal got hit, or you got overrun with monsters, with no way of getting back to the portal.. you're sorta screwed
#354 [06:56] <BlackMoon> like a fully automated mob killing machine that funnels all the drops, then turns on an indicator light to tell you theres drops, And then you just get into a minecart, it takes you down there, swings you by to pick em up, then takes ya back
#355 [06:56] <BlackMoon> GreyVulpine: oh
#356 [06:56] <BlackMoon> I guess you could also end up opening a portal into lava?
#357 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> No, the portal algorithm at least tries to find safe ground on the opposite side
#358 [06:57] <BlackMoon> yea I seem to recall you could exploit that to find dungeons/cavrens
#359 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> Notch's definition of "safe", can sometimes be...
#360 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> Well.. yeah
#361 [06:58] <BlackMoon> lol
#362 [06:58] <BlackMoon> "lets see.. Cavren.. Contents: 6 creepers, 3 zombies, 5 skeletons and... No lava, Yep its safe open the portal!'
#363 [07:00] <BlackMoon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maUCujSC588&feature=related Awsome map!
#364 [07:00] <BlackMoon> (I think it was more or less naturaly created)
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#369 [07:05] <fenster> hello
#370 [07:05] <fenster> can enyone help me plizz
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#372 [07:06] <Captain-Lightning> What do you need?
#373 [07:06] <fenster> i just bought minecraft but i cant play online ;/
#374 [07:06] <Captain-Lightning> How long ago?
#375 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you?
#376 [07:06] <fenster> about 30minutes
#377 [07:07] <Captain-Lightning> If you've just recently purchased minecraft, it can take some time to go through the verification process.
#378 [07:07] <fenster> oh
#379 [07:07] <fenster> thank u
#380 [07:07] <fenster> :)
#381 [07:07] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Do you get an error message on trying to connect?
#382 [07:07] <fenster> ill wait
#383 [07:07] <Captain-Lightning> You'll need to wait a few hours, in most cases.
#384 [07:07] <Captain-Lightning> No problem.
#385 [07:07] <GreyVulpine> Captain-Lightning - Sometimes, it can be immediate.
#386 [07:07] <Captain-Lightning> Yeah, mine was.
#387 [07:08] <fenster> well i just get a message connection timed out but ill wait and see
#388 [07:08] <asnoehu> bought like 5 accounts, al played absolutely instant :O
#389 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Try this ip for multiplayer, smp.shadow-craft.net
#390 [07:09] <fenster> what is that thging
#391 [07:09] <fenster> it just says succes!
#392 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#393 [07:09] <fenster> never mind
#394 [07:10] <fenster> ill wait an hour or so and see
#395 [07:10] <fenster> thx all
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#403 [07:42] <McSilver> hi
#404 [07:42] <McSilver> when I'm dead, how long do the things from my inventory stay there, were I died
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#408 [07:54] <Compodulator> i have a weird problem with my house
#409 [07:54] <Compodulator> can monsters get through a 1x1x1 hole into a completely lit house?
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#412 [08:00] <BlackMoon> Compodulator: Spiders yes
#413 [08:01] <BlackMoon> Compodulator: Use glass (Sand + foundry)
#414 [08:01] <BlackMoon> or doors.
#415 [08:01] <BlackMoon> Or build into an unclimbable cliff like I do.
#416 [08:01] <BlackMoon> then light the hell outta the top.
#417 [08:02] <BlackMoon> then pour lava down the sides
#418 [08:02] <Compodulator> lol
#419 [08:02] <Compodulator> quite an overkill
#420 [08:02] <BlackMoon> and make a moat of lava. and then another of acid, pouring onto the lava
#421 [08:02] <Compodulator> besides, i don't know how to make a skull shaped house xD
#422 [08:02] <BlackMoon> so you have acid, pouring on lava, Sorta like exploding lemons that will burn your house down!
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#431 [08:46] <OmegaII> Hey I was wondering. Dropped blocks, in what file are they stored ?
#432 [08:49] <_303> in the world, in the chunk files. they are entities. why?
#433 [08:49] <OmegaII> I have a cactus farm that has gone haywire. There are too many cactus drops, and it's lagging the server like crazy. Searching for a quick way to get rid of them. The cactussen themselves are allready deleted.
#434 [08:50] <OmegaII> -n+s
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#437 [08:53] <_303> is your server modded or vanilla?
#438 [08:55] <OmegaII> It's a bukkit server. But I presume the file structure remains the same. Since you can copy them around. But if it's in the chunks I have no idea how to remove the data from them. So that's a nogo.
#439 [08:55] <OmegaII> I'll have to find another way then.
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#441 [08:57] <_303> I'd know how to do it on single player with Singleplayer commands mod: /killall Item
#442 [08:57] <_303> worldedit's //butcher only kills mobs, not entities afaict from the docs
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#444 [08:59] <OmegaII> I could give that a try, thx
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#450 [09:17] <shapeshifter_ex> hey guys
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#453 [09:20] <shapeshifter_ex> what is a yak shaveing service? o.o
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#465 [10:07] <chaoticoz> hello, is it possible to view a chests content with MCedit?
#466 [10:08] <chaoticoz> or is there an other way to view a chests content without minecraft?
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#477 [10:52] <Morrolan> Chaoticoz: MCEdit can't view chest data, but I think MineEdit allows you to view chest data.
#478 [10:53] <Morrolan> Oh, and gratz for not leaving after your question didn't get answered within a minute. .D
#479 [10:53] <Morrolan> :D*
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#482 [10:58] <Morrolan> Chaoticoz: Actually, watch out, it seems that app wasn't updated in a long time. The map editing part is definitely broken, not sure about the chest editing one.
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#486 [11:06] <xolotl> chaoticoz: If there aren't any GUI tools and you feel like doing some programming in Python, pymclevel would certainly be able to look inside chests, btw
#487 [11:06] <xolotl> (pymclevel being the library that MCEdit's built on)
#488 [11:06] <chaoticoz> i solved it
#489 [11:06] <_303> why did you want to look at the chest contents anyway?
#490 [11:06] <chaoticoz> by putting the map on a mp server
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#492 [11:06] <chaoticoz> well
#493 [11:06] <chaoticoz> it was a backup
#494 [11:06] <chaoticoz> and i wanted to reset some chests from back then
#495 [11:06] <chaoticoz> because of some griefers
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#497 [11:11] <ellisgeek> can some one help test my server i have a backup script and i think it is stopping the server somewhere along the line
#498 [11:11] <ellisgeek> Heloooooo
#499 [11:13] <Morrolan> Hmm?
#500 [11:13] <Morrolan> Migh want to ask the creator of that scrip then.
#501 [11:13] <Morrolan> script*
#502 [11:14] <ellisgeek> all i need is some one to connect to my server and see if they get kicked. i would do it my self but my comp is shit so all i can do is ssh to my server box
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#504 [11:15] <ellisgeek> btw i have looked the scrip over but dont see why it would be stopping the server
#505 [11:16] <Morrolan> You could use !check iphere then. :)
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#513 [11:43] <Hunter_Hunt_Hendrix> REGISTER HELP//
#514 [11:43] <Hunter_Hunt_Hendrix> /HELP
#515 [11:44] <aetherian> ...
#516 [11:44] <Oerg866__> LOL
#517 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Wow
#518 [11:45] <Morrolan> Hmm, there must have been someone threatening to kill him if he didn't register in the next few seconds. :/
#519 [11:46] <aetherian> killing... with a knife :o
#520 [11:47] <xolotl> Probably #police only lets you chat if you're registered
#521 [11:48] <ellisgeek> ok
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#523 [11:50] <ellisgeek> !check s0urc3.dyndns-server.com
#524 [11:51] <ellisgeek> !check s0urc3.dyndns-server.com
#525 [11:52] <ellisgeek> !paste
#526 [11:52] <cognificent> Does anyone know if there's a way I can recover an alpha saved world if I have all the chunk files but not the level.dat?
#527 [11:52] <Morrolan> Cognificent: Uhm, not sure.
#528 [11:53] <Morrolan> Problem is that the seed is missing.
#529 [11:53] <Morrolan> Which you can't restore from the map data itself.
#530 [11:53] <xolotl> cognificent: What Morrolan said. You *can* just slap in any other level.dat in place and it'll work, though newly-generated terrain won't match the old stuff
#531 [11:53] <xolotl> cognificent: (and you may have to reset your spawn point, etc)
#532 [11:54] <xolotl> cognificent: Also if it's a singleplayer world, you'd lose whatever was in your inventory, and your current player position
#533 [11:54] <cognificent> hrrm
#534 [11:55] <cognificent> well, what happened is I tried to import a alpha world into multiverse but it created a new beta world in that folder instead, overwriting the common files
#535 [11:56] <cognificent> so I tried deleting the region folder and moving it to my single player saves folder so I could convert it
#536 [11:56] <cognificent> but it just keeps making a new world
#537 [11:56] <xolotl> cognificent: And actually if the old world was from Alpha, the terrain generation functions probably don't match anymore anyway
#538 [11:56] <xolotl> cognificent: So even if you did have the same seed, you'd probably have mismatched terrain for the newly-generated chunks
#539 [11:56] <xolotl> Ah, hm
#540 [11:56] <cognificent> i don't really care if the new terrain is weird, i just want to see if I can get what was there again
#541 [11:56] <xolotl> cognificent: You *would* need a level.dat from Alpha, not a newer one
#542 [11:57] <cognificent> oh, okay
#543 [11:57] <xolotl> cognificent: Sec, I'll upload an old level.dat for you
#544 [11:57] <xolotl> (unless you have one handy)
#545 [11:57] <cognificent> i think i have one somewhere
#546 [11:57] <cognificent> i'll try it
#547 [11:57] <xolotl> The Beta level.dat files include some extra data which say "the chunks have already been converted"
#548 [11:57] <xolotl> Which is why it wasn't attempting to convert your old stuff
#549 [11:58] <cognificent> ... maybe i don't. If you could upload one that'd be awesome
#550 [11:58] <xolotl> Heh, sure
#551 [11:59] <xolotl> cognificent: http://apocalyptech.com/level.dat
#552 [12:03] <cognificent> thanks... it converted stuff... but I'm nowhere I recognize so I'll have to try and map it
#553 [12:04] <xolotl> heh, good luck
#554 [12:05] <xolotl> It would have set your user position to the coordinates of the save I pulled that from
#555 [12:05] <xolotl> So not surprising that it's not recognizable
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#558 [12:10] <cognificent> haha, it worked. thanks for your help
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#562 [12:24] <xolotl> cognificent: Cool, np
#563 [12:25] <Bloodngore> quick question
#564 [12:25] <Bloodngore> adding OP-s to ops.txt how would i add them there? seperated with a coma or under eachother?
#565 [12:26] <NotiCon> Bloodngore: using /op ingame
#566 [12:26] <Bloodngore> so command would be /op [name]
#567 [12:26] <NotiCon> yup
#568 [12:26] <Bloodngore> thanks
#569 [12:31] <oldtopman> !check 87.201.184.90
#570 [12:32] <xolotl> Bloodngore: They'd be one per line
#571 [12:33] <xolotl> (and you *can* just add them manually to the file, fwiw, though I suppose it's probably safest to use "/op")
#572 [12:35] <ellisgeek> but you need to be op first to /op people
#573 [12:36] <Morrolan> So the question is, what was first? the /op command or the op?
#574 [12:36] <ellisgeek> the op
#575 [12:37] <ellisgeek> :D
#576 [12:37] <Morrolan> I'd go for the server console. :p
#577 [12:37] <QW> *test*
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#579 [12:37] <Morrolan> **Critical error** could not send to channel
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#583 [12:40] <QW> What causes the "cannot send to channel" business?
#584 [12:40] <Morrolan> Hmm? In #Minecraft you mean?
#585 [12:41] <Morrolan> You'll have to register your nickname to talk there.
#586 [12:41] <oldtopman> ??> QW irc
#587 [12:41] <VoxelHead> QW: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#588 [12:41] <VoxelHead> QW: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#589 [12:41] * QW bows
#589 [12:41] <oldtopman> np
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#591 [12:42] <Morrolan> I mean, it's not as if the channel topic of #Minecraft would actually say what the problem is. :D
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#594 [12:44] <QuantumWork> No doubt. I thought I'd registered - so many darn networks...
#595 [12:46] <Morrolan> Fair enough.
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#604 [13:09] <oldtopman> !check 87.201.184.90
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#609 [13:21] <Nordin> Hi
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#611 [13:21] <Nordin> Anyone here know how to setup a beta survival server?
#612 [13:21] <Nordin> cause around 5 people tried to help me
#613 [13:22] <Nordin> none of the worked
#614 [13:22] <oldtopman> Even I
#615 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, just download the minecraft_server, port forward as necessary
#616 [13:22] <oldtopman> failed -_-
#617 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't be too hard
#618 [13:22] <Nordin> i got the server dled
#619 [13:22] <oldtopman> GreyVulpine: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Sitecom/WL-153/eMule.htm was fail set to 25565 and his local IP
#620 [13:22] <oldtopman> GreyVulpine: I just spent the last 20 min doing it right
#621 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Sec, taking a look.
#622 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Alright.
#623 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Could I get some screenshots?
#624 [13:24] <Nordin> of what
#625 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Namely, the internal ip address of the computer running the server, the port forwarding page of the router, the Home -> System Status - > Internet page
#626 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Also, any software security/firewall software configuration on the computer
#627 [13:25] <Nordin> here is portforwarding
#628 [13:25] <Nordin> http://i.imgur.com/XJccS.png
#629 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> There's.. nothing set there.
#630 [13:26] <Nordin> all ips
#631 [13:26] <Nordin> http://i.imgur.com/noYlX.png
#632 [13:26] <Nordin> ok what should i set
#633 [13:26] <Nordin> 3 people told me 3 different things
#634 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> 192.168.0.150 is the internal IP of the computer
#635 [13:26] <xolotl> "We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas!"
#636 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> That's what should be in the "Local IP" field of the router
#637 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> setting 25565-25565 as the range
#638 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Type, "Both" is fine.
#639 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> (though minecraft currently only uses TCP
#640 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> )
#641 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Don't forget to check the "Enable Port Forwarding" checkbox, obviously
#642 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Could I get a screenshot of Home -> Internet in your router as well?
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#644 [13:28] <Nordin> yeah
#645 [13:29] <Nordin> http://i.imgur.com/cLm6h.png
#646 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> That looks right
#647 [13:29] <Nordin> soo now is the portforwarding done?
#648 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> Could I get a screenshot of Home -> Internet in your router as well?
#649 [13:30] <NotiCon> if .150 is the one computer your server is at
#650 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> Just want to make sure that router is getting a public ip as well.
#651 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> NotiCon - It is
#652 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/noYlX.png
#653 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> Which is why I asked for a screenshot of it
#654 [13:30] <NotiCon> oh
#655 [13:31] <Nordin> wait home -> internet?
#656 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, "Home", the link at the top of the router page.
#657 [13:31] <Nordin> ohh
#658 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Then "Internet", the tab at the top
#659 [13:32] <Nordin> http://i.imgur.com/iD269.png
#660 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> That looks good, your public ip is 80.201.184.90
#661 [13:32] <Nordin> yeah
#662 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Could you try launching the server now, and using that ip to connect?
#663 [13:33] <Nordin> wait before that
#664 [13:33] <Nordin> someone told me to change something
#665 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> change.. what?
#666 [13:33] <Nordin> in control panel -> network and sharing center
#667 [13:33] <Nordin> view status -> properties
#668 [13:34] <Nordin> then under internet protocol verison 4
#669 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> They might be getting you to set a static IP address
#670 [13:34] <Nordin> http://i.imgur.com/oub8S.png
#671 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> It's really not necessary right now.
#672 [13:34] <Nordin> should i leave it to obtain ip automatically?
#673 [13:34] <Nordin> or keep it at that
#674 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> But if you already set it, just leave it
#675 [13:34] <Nordin> idk if he told me correct stuff
#676 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Basically, your computer, when you left it to "obtain ip address automatically", gets an ip address from the router
#677 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes, the router doesn't always give the computer the same ip address when you reboot the computer
#678 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> The port forwarding you set, would be wrong, if the ip address changed.
#679 [13:35] <Nordin> ok well connection refused
#680 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Again, not really necessary, but a good practice if you plan on running a server via port forwarding
#681 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Nordin - Alright, no worries. Could you try connecting with 127.0.0.1
#682 [13:36] <Nordin> failed to connnect
#683 [13:36] <Nordin> umm
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#685 [13:36] <Nordin> nope
#686 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Do you run any sort of security software on your computer?
#687 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Anything that has a firewall/network protection component
#688 [13:37] <NotiCon> what is the server gui saying Nordin ?
#689 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, it's not getting through to the server at all
#690 [13:37] <Nordin> http://i.imgur.com/Dncru.png
#691 [13:37] <Nordin> and firewall is diabled
#692 [13:37] <Nordin> disabled*
#693 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> What firewall?
#694 [13:37] <Nordin> but i could join 127.0.01 like 4 mins ago
#695 [13:38] <Nordin> http://i.imgur.com/e3VhW.png
#696 [13:38] <Nordin> on the site ^
#697 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Oh, no, on your computer
#698 [13:38] <Nordin> how do i check that
#699 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Do you run any sort of antivirus software, or perhaps windows firewall
#700 [13:38] <Nordin> nope says its off
#701 [13:39] <Nordin> windows firewall is off
#702 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> What is off?
#703 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> You're sure?
#704 [13:39] <Nordin> thast what it says...
#705 [13:39] <Nordin> http://i.imgur.com/Eg555.png
#706 [13:39] <Nordin> thats*
#707 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any security software? Most likely an Antivirus suite with some sort of network protection on it?
#708 [13:40] <Nordin> i got norton
#709 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> Could you check in Norton to see if there's a firewall or network security component to it?
#710 [13:41] <Nordin> yeah norton internet secutriy
#711 [13:41] <Nordin> secutriy*
#712 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> That would most likely do it
#713 [13:42] <Nordin> yeah but no option to turn it off
#714 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> Erm.. should have an option..
#715 [13:43] <Nordin> well i cant find it
#716 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> If you can give me a screenshot, or let me on your computer.. I could direct you where to go.
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#718 [13:43] <Nordin> you got teamviewer?
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#720 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#721 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> PM me your info.
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#726 [13:46] <bobd0le> are "jumps" in minecraft possible?
#727 [13:46] <bobd0le> like can you boost someone then end the track and have track lower down with a xyz gap?
#728 [13:46] <xales> "Jumps"?
#729 [13:46] <xales> No, carts lose momentum as soon as they leave the track
#730 [13:46] <xales> (to my knowledge)
#731 [13:47] <Morrolan> Yeah, I think so too.
#732 [13:47] <bobd0le> damn
#733 [13:47] <Morrolan> Only height gaps are possible.
#734 [13:47] <bobd0le> hmm
#735 [13:47] <bobd0le> not even like 6 height for two block gaps?
#736 [13:47] <Morrolan> Well, theoretically you could use TNT, but that's not really suitable.
#737 [13:47] <bobd0le> lmao, not really :p
#738 [13:47] <Morrolan> bobd0le: I can only adivse you to try it out, maybe it works.
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#740 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> I think I froze nordin's computer, opening up Norton's firewall log
#741 [13:55] * GreyVulpine blehs
#741 [13:57] <aikaramba> is there a way to combine classic and beta servers?
#742 [13:57] <aikaramba> something like beta server where classic users could come
#743 [13:57] <aikaramba> or two servers mirroring content/map
#744 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#745 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> They're two entirely different servers, with basically nothing in common.
#746 [13:58] <aikaramba> hmm
#747 [13:58] <aikaramba> they got blocks
#748 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Don't use the same network code, underlying infrastructure's different, classic doesn't have any of the new features of beta, monsters, water/lava..
#749 [13:59] <aikaramba> it is like a basic renderer
#750 [13:59] <aikaramba> it could simply display the content (it can)
#751 [13:59] <aikaramba> from beta
#752 [14:00] <aikaramba> and allow blocks to be placed, removed
#753 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> It's like saying, Everything on the internet's the same, because it's all made up of packets being sent over a network.
#754 [14:00] <aikaramba> :D
#755 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> It isn't.
#756 [14:00] <aikaramba> i know
#757 [14:00] <aikaramba> i was just wondering
#758 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Simple answer, no.
#759 [14:00] <aikaramba> it could be usefull in some cases
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#761 [14:00] <aikaramba> lol, i think the long answer would essentially mean no aswell
#762 [14:00] <aikaramba> just explained why
#763 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Map's saved differently, the network code is different, the blocks have different data/metadata associated with them
#764 [14:01] <aikaramba> well there are lots of mods out there
#765 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> The whole beta code doesn't resemble anything like classic anymore
#766 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Oh sure.
#767 [14:01] <aikaramba> i was just thingking if there is some sort of translator
#768 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> There isn't.
#769 [14:01] <aikaramba> or interface
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#771 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> You're either running classic, or SMP.
#772 [14:01] <aikaramba> hmm
#773 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> There's no hybrid.
#774 [14:01] <aikaramba> sad
#775 [14:02] <aikaramba> such capability would be nice to give a "read only" link
#776 [14:02] <aikaramba> to someone who dosnt own minecraft
#777 [14:02] <aikaramba> so he can just have a look at whats been created
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#779 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Classic is free, always have been.
#780 [14:02] * aikaramba wonders how hard it would be to write such tool
#780 [14:03] <aikaramba> there are map editors
#781 [14:03] <aikaramba> for classic and beta
#782 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> if you want to see what's created in beta, there's tons of map renderers out there
#783 [14:03] <aikaramba> if combined ...
#784 [14:03] <aikaramba> ;)
#785 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> I mean, just take a look at tectonicus
#786 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> http://www.java-gaming.org/index.php?topic=23329.0
#787 [14:03] <aikaramba> well, for someone who hasnt played MC, screenshots and similar ar just ugly blocks
#788 [14:03] <vcordie> If combined you have a map editor that could owkr on both classic and beta, with over hundreds of thousands of lines of code.
#789 [14:04] <vcordie> Aikaramba: make a zoomed out gif of it then
#790 [14:04] <aikaramba> exploring is a whole different thing
#791 [14:04] <vcordie> If you;ve ever watched Yogcast, whenever they come to a new place they do that so you know what I mean.
#792 [14:04] <aikaramba> Yogcast
#793 [14:04] <vcordie> Show them some lets plays, humerous ones are best.
#794 [14:04] <aikaramba> lets see
#795 [14:04] <vcordie> Stuff like Seananners, Coe, etc.
#796 [14:04] <vcordie> Some people just can't get past graphics
#797 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> If people wanted to play minecraft, or try it out, there's a demo available.
#798 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#799 [14:05] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survivial, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#800 [14:05] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#801 [14:05] <bobd0le> hmm - do you get any extra bonus from putting 2x powered rails instead of 1?
#802 [14:05] <vcordie> Those are the people you see playing gears of war 3 and not fathmoning how someone could look at graphics like that without vomitting.
#803 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> bobd0le - No.
#804 [14:05] <bobd0le> ty grey
#805 [14:06] <vcordie> the people who play minecraft are those who play the nintendo ds and the like, and see screenshots of games like gears of war and say there are three colours: Grey, Brown, and Muzzle flash.
#806 [14:06] <aikaramba> :D
#807 [14:06] <aikaramba> indeed
#808 [14:06] <vcordie> People have forgotten what hardcore means
#809 [14:06] <aikaramba> burning a wood
#810 [14:06] <aikaramba> :D
#811 [14:06] <vcordie> hardcore doesnt mean dystopic world of grey brown and muzzle flash
#812 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> And if people bitch and moan about "crappy graphics", on minecraft, they haven't looked at some of the mods out for it
#813 [14:06] <aikaramba> forest*
#814 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=73861
#815 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Case in point: ^
#816 [14:06] <vcordie> hardcore means extremely hared
#817 [14:06] <vcordie> If you want hardcore, go play the original super mario bros. You couldn't even save!
#818 [14:07] <vcordie> The gameoverthinker makes this point rather well
#819 [14:07] <vcordie> .g game overthinker
#820 [14:07] <vcordie> bleh
#821 [14:07] <vcordie> forgot crow doesn;t exist here.
#822 [14:07] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: I think all the shaders and stuff are even more impressive than the HD texture packs.
#823 [14:07] <Morrolan> Use !google if that's what you want.
#824 [14:07] <vcordie> http://gameoverthinker.blogspot.com/
#825 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, I don't think we have !google here
#826 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> At least, it isn't enabled on greybot, because of all the spam
#827 [14:08] <vcordie> not sure what hes posted in a while.
#828 [14:08] * xolotl prays that !google remains nonactive
#828 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Don't plan on enabling it here
#829 [14:08] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: it must have been disabled recently then though.
#830 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Even !wiki is pushing it
#831 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> !google test
#832 [14:08] <vcordie> I
#833 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's disabled
#834 [14:08] <vcordie> 'm talking about the stuff from last year or so.
#835 [14:08] <Morrolan> Hmm, maybe it was a different channel then. Anyway.
#836 [14:08] <NotiCon> silly googl seach spam?
#837 [14:08] <xales> GreyVulpine: Couldn't you just have it check for voice or op?
#838 [14:09] <NotiCon> +e
#839 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> I could, sure..
#840 [14:09] <xales> There are a few times I find !wiki helpful
#841 [14:09] <aetherian> but then I'd spam it too much
#842 [14:09] <aetherian> :>
#843 [14:09] <xales> (It's not common, so if you don't want to, that's okay)
#844 [14:09] <NotiCon> just dont forget to not let aetherian use them
#845 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> I'd have to kill aetherian though
#846 [14:09] <Morrolan> Make it check for voice, OP and NOT aetherian then. :p
#847 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> But !wiki is available to everybody right now
#848 [14:09] <aikaramba> hmm
#849 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> If people spam, I kick
#850 [14:09] * aikaramba thinks he should focus on classic
#850 [14:10] <vcordie> what the fuck
#851 [14:10] <aikaramba> if im to have some fun with friends
#852 [14:10] <vcordie> the gameoverthinker went from ranting about video games to some sort of storyline
#853 [14:11] <aetherian> :O
#854 [14:11] <xales> O:
#855 [14:11] <aetherian> ..
#856 [14:11] <aetherian> O
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#858 [14:11] <NotiCon> D:!
#859 [14:11] <aetherian> argh, that failed
#860 [14:11] <vcordie> okay, i think i may of figured it out
#861 [14:11] <NotiCon> Ö
#862 [14:11] <aetherian> . .
#863 [14:11] <xales> May have*
#864 [14:11] <aetherian> O
#865 [14:11] <vcordie> may of been in his response to robert ebert
#866 [14:11] <aetherian> agh xales
#867 [14:11] <NotiCon> HARHAR
#868 [14:11] <vcordie> nvm
#869 [14:11] <NotiCon> good one xales
#870 [14:11] <vcordie> I definitely remember where it was
#871 [14:11] <vcordie> http://gameoverthinker.blogspot.com/2010/04/episode-34-waggle-war.html right here.
#872 [14:12] <vcordie> Watch that >.>
#873 [14:12] <vcordie> I think.
#874 [14:13] <vcordie> nope, thats it.
#875 [14:13] <bobd0le> so
#876 [14:13] <bobd0le> ive sort of made some jumps
#877 [14:13] * DopeGhoti looks up
#877 [14:13] <bobd0le> you can jump 2 blocks using boosters
#878 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> Hardcore gaming was playing (and beating) Contra. Without the Konami Code.
#879 [14:14] <aikaramba> hardcore gaming was pong
#880 [14:14] <aetherian> ^
#881 [14:14] <aetherian> wait no
#882 [14:14] <aikaramba> :D
#883 [14:14] <aetherian> hardcore gaming was Zork
#884 [14:14] <aetherian> >:
#885 [14:14] <vcordie> Hardcore gaming is definitely not what it is considered now
#886 [14:14] <vcordie> Colour scheme doesnt make the fucking game hardcore.
#887 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> "Hard core gaming was Laser Tag with guns modified to sear human flesh."
#888 [14:14] <aetherian> xD
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#890 [14:17] <bobd0le> portals / the nether doesnt work in multiplayer does it?
#891 [14:18] <bobd0le> cause im watching a video of people playing multiplayer in the nether
#892 [14:18] <NotiCon> in 1.6 it does
#893 [14:18] <vcordie> bod0le, you used to be able to enable it, i believe
#894 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> There's mods out that let people do multiworlds
#895 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> But vanilla, there's only either-or.
#896 [14:18] <bobd0le> ahh fair enough
#897 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> You can run the overworld, or the nether, but not both
#898 [14:18] <vcordie> It was simple a matter of adding something to the config file.. I believe that it was disabled because it was bugging.
#899 [14:18] <vcordie> buggy*
#900 [14:19] <xales> GreyVulpine: Actually, running nether in SMP is very broken at the moment
#901 [14:19] <xales> (Clients deadlock when you respawn)
#902 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> Oh fun
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#904 [14:19] <esper_qmuwdl> hi
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#906 [14:19] <Nordin> Hi again
#907 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> Your computer locked up Nordin
#908 [14:19] <xales> Hello.
#909 [14:19] <Nordin> yeah i know lol
#910 [14:20] <vcordie> ?nick | esper_qmuwdl
#911 [14:20] <vcordie> ugh, so used to being in #risucraft with crow.
#912 [14:20] <esper_qmuwdl> Can you send me please the minecraft_server.exe Version 1.4?
#913 [14:20] <vcordie> (the residant bot)
#914 [14:20] <xales> esper_qmuwdl: No
#915 [14:20] <esper_qmuwdl> And why?
#916 [14:20] <xales> ?? tos
#917 [14:20] <VoxelHead> tos: http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp - The one major rule: Do not distribute anything I've made. This includes the client and the server software for the game.
#918 [14:20] <VoxelHead> tos: This also includes modified versions of anything I've made. In order to maintain control of the project, I need all game downloads to come from a single central source. I hope you understand.
#919 [14:20] <esper_qmuwdl> I only want to make a 1.4 Server?
#920 [14:21] <xales> It doesn't matter
#921 [14:21] <esper_qmuwdl> -.-
#922 [14:21] <xales> It is against the game's license to distribute it
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#925 [14:24] <Morrolan> xales: Huh, why didn't you just give him the link to the server at minecraft.net ?
#926 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> Because that's the 1.5_02 server?
#927 [14:24] <Morrolan> Oh, nvm.
#928 [14:24] <Nordin> GreyVulpine
#929 [14:25] <Morrolan> Sorry xales.
#930 [14:25] <xales> Not a problem
#931 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> also, to whomever added the tos keyword, good idea; goes well with ?? distribution
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#940 [14:54] <mib_87gm5v> is anyone here?
#941 [14:54] <genshou> lol.
#942 [14:55] <genshou> When I join a channel with over 100 people, I just ask my question =_=
#943 [14:55] <genshou> and it's never 'is anyone here' o_O
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#945 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> also
#946 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#947 [14:58] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#948 [14:58] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#949 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> (the other neat thing about IRC is, when you type something, it'll still be there when anyone who is AFK returns)
#950 [14:59] <aikaramba> the bad?
#951 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> the what?
#952 [15:02] <aikaramba> if there is a good thing
#953 [15:02] <aikaramba> there must be something bad as well
#954 [15:02] <aikaramba> what is the bad thing about IRC
#955 [15:03] <Tanjoodo> That would be me.
#956 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> all the unwashed masses of troglodytes?
#957 [15:04] <Tanjoodo> No, all the people who dont have a clue about what you just said.
#958 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> to-may-toe; to-mah-toe
#959 [15:05] <Tanjoodo> That, I understand.
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#969 [15:47] <sgiratch> Anyone got a suggestion for XMBC-skin?
#970 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> other than project mayhem?
#971 [15:49] <sgiratch> Havent tried that one.
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#974 [15:59] <Aundhe1m> Good evening gents, anyone here familiar with a crash in MineCraft that makes the whole screen black, but still continue to play the background music? It aways happening 2-3min after i've joined a online server.
#975 [16:00] <oldtopmanserver> SSP?
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#977 [16:00] <Morrolan> "online server" -> SSP? :D
#978 [16:01] <Aundhe1m> Oh, the problem is not happening in the singleplayer, only in multi
#979 [16:01] <oldtopman> Let me clarify. Does it happen in SSP?
#980 [16:01] <oldtopman> Thanks
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#982 [16:01] <oldtopman> Aundhe1m: Have you tried any other servers?
#983 [16:02] <Aundhe1m> oldtopman, I have not, let me try that for a while
#984 [16:06] <Aundhe1m> Still good this far, the odds seems to be the server then..
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#986 [16:14] <Aundhe1m> It would seem it's a problem with the mod that is being used on the server, I gonna ask the Admin later for some info on the server, and maybe find a soulusion to the problem. It really don't seem like it's the client that is the problem.
#987 [16:15] <Pockyt> hi, i'm having some problems setting up a server on my mac. can someone help me?
#988 [16:15] <Aundhe1m> Thank you indeed oldtopman, it was a wonderfull answer to my problem
#989 [16:15] <oldtopman> Aundhe1m: So that was the issue?
#990 [16:16] <Aundhe1m> It would seem that way, im playing without problems on another server
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#993 [16:18] <Pockyt> It seems my start.command file doesn't want to launch minecraft.jar. Unable to access jarfile minecraft_server.jar. How can i fix this?
#994 [16:19] <NotiCon> err you are trying to launch minecraft_server.jar and not minecraft.jar?
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#996 [16:20] <oldtopman> Pockyt: Use "java -jar <path to server jar>"
#997 [16:20] <oldtopman> you forgot the -jar
#998 [16:23] <Pockyt> thanks, that fixed it!
#999 [16:23] <ALT3RNAT1V3> is there anyway to stop health auto restoring?
#1000 [16:25] <xolotl> ALT3RNAT1V3: Sure, don't play in Peaceful mode
#1001 [16:26] <chaoticoz> any redstone professionals here?
#1002 [16:26] <chaoticoz> if yes, any idea how to build a counter
#1003 [16:27] <chaoticoz> background: ive build a door lock using 4 buttons and 4 rs gates
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#1005 [16:27] <chaoticoz> oh
#1006 [16:27] <chaoticoz> i just got a simpler idea
#1007 [16:27] <chaoticoz> blind buttons reset the gates
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#1011 [16:36] <PacityOchamps> help
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#1017 [16:49] <NotiCon> D:?
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#1019 [16:50] <shapeshifter_ex> afternoon guys
#1020 [16:50] <shapeshifter_ex> it seems that i have a problem
#1021 [16:51] <shapeshifter_ex> \i have a project due tommrow and i havent even started on it =[
#1022 [16:51] <chaoticoz> which kind of project?
#1023 [16:51] <shapeshifter_ex> echonomics
#1024 [16:51] <chaoticoz> you mean like for school
#1025 [16:51] <shapeshifter_ex> yuh
#1026 [16:51] <chaoticoz> then this is probably the wrong channel
#1027 [16:52] <shapeshifter_ex> probably but its ok kealper is a genius he can help me
#1028 [16:52] <chaoticoz> ah ok :)
#1029 [16:52] <chaoticoz> well im just an average user so i cant help you :)
#1030 [16:53] <shapeshifter_ex> you could =P
#1031 [16:53] <chaoticoz> how? :)
#1032 [16:53] <shapeshifter_ex> welllllll you could help me think of 2 occupations =D
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#1035 [16:54] <GCore> Minecraft Mods channel?
#1036 [16:55] <shapeshifter_ex> huh?
#1037 [16:55] <GCore> Anyone know where i can find one to discuss a potential new mod with coders?
#1038 [16:55] <shapeshifter_ex> try #minecraft
#1039 [16:55] <aetherian> or #risucraft, if I do so recall correctly.
#1040 [16:55] <GCore> I haven't a Esper-Net Registerd nick.
#1041 [16:56] <GCore> I do though have a Rizon one.
#1042 [16:56] <GCore> But:/
#1043 [16:57] <relsqui> so ... register your nick?
#1044 [16:57] <shapeshifter_ex> chaoticoz
#1045 [17:02] <Pockyt> whenever i use my start.command file to start my server, none of the server.properties are loaded. what do?
#1046 [17:03] <xales> Pockyt: It's loading them from somewhere else, then
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#1048 [17:07] <Pockyt> like from where? i don't have another server.properties file on my computer
#1049 [17:08] <xales> That depends on how you are running it in the start.command file. It loads the server.properties from the current working directory, whatever that may be
#1050 [17:08] <Hamster> hi
#1051 [17:08] <Hamster> so whats going on?
#1052 [17:09] <Hamster> hello?
#1053 [17:09] <xales> Hi
#1054 [17:09] <xales> Do you need help with something?
#1055 [17:09] <Hamster> no
#1056 [17:09] <Hamster> im here to help others
#1057 [17:10] <Hamster> our servers down due to the host being down
#1058 [17:10] <xales> Okay then. Don't expect much idle chatter though, most people take that to #minecraft :)
#1059 [17:10] <Hamster> in the mean time i got bored
#1060 [17:10] <Hamster> k
#1061 [17:10] <Hamster> were inbetween atm lol
#1062 [17:10] <Hamster> just bought a new server
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#1064 [17:13] <Pockyt> now i get unable to access jarfile when trying to run start.command
#1065 [17:13] <ellisgeek> any one want to help me with a php script for starting/stopping/updateing/restarting/backing up a minecraft server via a init.d script? http://imm.io/5ySo <- flowchart
#1066 [17:14] <xales> Pockyt: Then you are running it in the wrong directory
#1067 [17:14] <xales> ellisgeek: Using php in an init.d script is a Wrong(TM)
#1068 [17:14] <xales> s/a//
#1069 [17:15] <xales> ellisgeek: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html Scroll down a bit
#1070 [17:16] <ellisgeek> no php calls init.d script
#1071 [17:16] <aikaramba> :D
#1072 [17:16] <xales> oh
#1073 [17:16] <xales> that's easy then
#1074 [17:16] <Hamster> wait what os?
#1075 [17:17] <xales> just allow the webserver user to use sudo with no password for /etc/init.d/(whatever) (run visudo to change that) and use a system() call
#1076 [17:17] <xales> Hamster: init.d scripts are used by the Debian family distributions
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#1078 [17:19] <pwnus> hey guys little help needed here
#1079 [17:19] <Hamster> hey xales
#1080 [17:20] <Hamster> yea pwn?
#1081 [17:20] <aetherian> hey pwnus
#1082 [17:20] <pwnus> i just downloaded the WOM client but cant figure out how to hook it into my own server
#1083 [17:20] <pwnus> i type my IP but it says invalid protocol
#1084 [17:20] <xales> Are you trying to use it with a beta server?
#1085 [17:20] <pwnus> any experience with the WOM user client?
#1086 [17:20] <Hamster> nope
#1087 [17:20] <pwnus> its a server that it got directly from minecraft.net
#1088 [17:20] <Hamster> xales you know of a bukkit plugin called civilians?
#1089 [17:21] <pwnus> 1.5
#1090 [17:21] <xales> Hamster: No, but you might try asking #bukkit
#1091 [17:21] <pwnus> address is 70.65.240.110
#1092 [17:21] <xales> pwnus: That's the beta server then. The WOM client is for classic servers
#1093 [17:21] <Hamster> k just wondering
#1094 [17:21] <pwnus> darnit
#1095 [17:22] <pwnus> ok, heres another thing then. how do i fly on my beta server now that ive turned it to "true"
#1096 [17:22] <pwnus> there is no "fly" button
#1097 [17:22] <xales> You have to install a mod, which is outside the scope of what we can help with
#1098 [17:23] <pwnus> darn
#1099 [17:23] <pwnus> i thought it would be as simple as getting the WOM client
#1100 [17:23] <pwnus> oh well, thanks anyways
#1101 [17:26] <ellisgeek> need help with the init script i was talking about the backup function keeps stoping my server and i have know idea why?
#1102 [17:26] <ellisgeek> here is a pastebin
#1103 [17:26] <ellisgeek> I added ia workaround but was wondering at the actual cause
#1104 [17:26] <ellisgeek> http://pastebin.com/yPyZEv5L
#1105 [17:27] <ellisgeek> the workaround is the hilighted line under backup
#1106 [17:27] <ellisgeek> at the very bottom
#1107 [17:29] <ellisgeek> no other linux ppl here?
#1108 [17:29] <ellisgeek> damn
#1109 [17:30] <GCore> I know this isn't the place but do you know if there's a Vanila Texture Pack but 64x64 bit or something higher/little lower?
#1110 [17:31] <ellisgeek> ccore: what would be the point it wouldn't look any better
#1111 [17:31] <xales> ellisgeek: I don't see anything obviously wrong with that
#1112 [17:31] <ellisgeek> ok
#1113 [17:32] <ellisgeek> just didn't want it to drop my players when it went for a backup
#1114 [17:33] <ellisgeek> i think it might be in the save_off block
#1115 [17:35] <xales> ellisgeek: Try removing the sync
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#1117 [17:35] <xales> (it's not needed)
#1118 [17:36] <ellisgeek> ok
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#1120 [17:37] <ellisgeek> brb
#1121 [17:38] <mib_min8ju> im using the server djrorok has videos about, and i was wondering if you can turn the zombie spawns back on after you start a world? because its not working for me.
#1122 [17:39] <xales> mib_min8ju: Are you playing on a server, or running one?
#1123 [17:39] <mib_min8ju> i am running one
#1124 [17:40] <xales> We can't help with anything but the official server from minecraft.net
#1125 [17:40] <mib_min8ju> ok, thanks
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#1131 [17:54] * Kealper rawrs
#1131 [17:54] <Kealper> i don't think i'll be doing that again
#1132 [17:55] <Kealper> found some nighttime cold medicine that said it helps runny noses (my allergies have been killing me lately)....
#1133 [17:55] <Kealper> that stuff put me out like a light lol
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#1135 [18:04] <ellisgeek> xales nope still stops the server
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#1137 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Denis Leary said it right. "On the box, it says 'May cause drowsiness.' It should say 'Don't make any fucking plans'."
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#1139 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> <3 NyQuil.
#1140 [18:06] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i wholely agree lol
#1141 [18:07] <Wug> eew
#1142 [18:07] <Wug> druuuugs
#1143 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: medication, druuuugs.
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#1145 [18:07] <Kealper> if they consider "drowsiness" as knocking someone out for a few hours...what do they consider sleeping meds? lol
#1146 [18:09] <Wug> ever wonder why you arent supposed to take sleeping meds and booze?
#1147 [18:09] <Wug> if you fall too asleep YOU DIIIIE
#1148 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> !isdown
#1149 [18:12] <GreyBot> DopeGhoti: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1150 [18:13] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: I already told you that.
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#1152 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: was testing
#1153 [18:15] <oldtopman> suuuure you were...
#1154 [18:15] <chaoticoz> MC down only for me?
#1155 [18:15] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: That is the first one. Are you going to edit the topic?
#1156 [18:15] * DopeGhoti points up
#1156 [18:16] <chaoticoz> MC.NET is indeed down. oic
#1157 [18:16] <oldtopman> derp
#1158 [18:16] <Kealper> .set motd Minecraft.net seems to be down right now, sorry! | Read the channel rules at: http://www.minecraftirc.net/rules/minecrafthelp
#1159 [18:17] <chaoticoz> is this a planned downtime?
#1160 [18:17] <Kealper> probably not
#1161 [18:17] <chaoticoz> ok
#1162 [18:18] <chaoticoz> it isnt possible to bypass mc.net login servers is it
#1163 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> Not legitimately, no.
#1164 [18:19] <chaoticoz> nice answer
#1165 [18:19] <chaoticoz> thanks
#1166 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> pleased to be of service.
#1167 [18:20] <oldtopman> There is a legitimate way, althought it has to be done server-side
#1168 [18:20] <chaoticoz> its my server
#1169 [18:20] <Kealper> and then only one person can connect to that server at any given time
#1170 [18:20] <chaoticoz> oh ok
#1171 [18:20] <oldtopman> no.
#1172 [18:21] <oldtopman> You can change online-mode to false
#1173 [18:21] <oldtopman> And then the server doesn't check mc.net to see if you paid
#1174 [18:21] <oldtopman> Thus, it works when mc.net is down!
#1175 [18:21] <chaoticoz> but then not-legit clients can connect and steal my nick?
#1176 [18:22] <Kealper> right
#1177 [18:22] <chaoticoz> ok
#1178 [18:22] <chaoticoz> well
#1179 [18:22] <chaoticoz> for downtime ill set it to false
#1180 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> Happy getting-griefed-as-a-result!
#1181 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> hope you have a backup
#1182 [18:22] <chaoticoz> have
#1183 [18:23] <chaoticoz> pretty unknown server anyway
#1184 [18:24] <chaoticoz> i just wanted to say i have whitelist anyway
#1185 [18:25] <chaoticoz> but then i thought about it again
#1186 [18:26] <Kealper> genzilla....lol
#1187 [18:27] <oldtopman> !isdown
#1188 [18:27] <GreyBot> oldtopman: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1189 [18:28] <oldtopman> Tis up!
#1190 [18:28] * Kealper CBA'd to change AuBot's motd atm
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#1191 [18:28] <oldtopman> Kealper: * #minecrafthelp :You're not a channel operator
#1192 [18:28] <chaoticoz> paste: .set motd | | The Official MineCraft help channel! For all your questions about the core-game made by Mojang! || Channel Rules: http://www.minecraftirc.net/rules/minecrafthelp || Bug Tracker: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang || We reserve the right to deny support to anyone, for any reason || We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues.
#1193 [18:29] <Kealper> oldtopman: lol
#1194 [18:29] <oldtopman> Fix the topic!
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#1198 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> will do
#1199 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> chanserv lacks a topicunprepend; gimme a sec
#1200 [18:46] <p3s301> my server runs laggy what should i do?
#1201 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> .set motd Read the channel rules at: http://www.minecraftirc.net/rules/minecrafthelp
#1202 [18:46] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: ^ I no can worky
#1203 [18:47] <Kealper> .auth DopeGhoti 1
#1204 [18:47] <Kealper> thought i already did that >.>
#1205 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> .set motd Read the channel rules at: http://www.minecraftirc.net/rules/minecrafthelp
#1206 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> Danke.
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#1209 [18:49] <Shuuji> hiho
#1210 [18:49] <Shuuji> got a question ^^
#1211 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#1212 [18:49] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1213 [18:49] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1214 [18:50] <Shuuji> im hosting a server and suddenly my inet crashes and server was shut down noch i cant reopen it
#1215 [18:50] <Shuuji> he always shows that message
#1216 [18:50] <Shuuji> **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#1217 [18:50] <Shuuji> [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind
#1218 [18:50] <Shuuji> [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#1219 [18:50] <Shuuji> what can i do?
#1220 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> are you running any mods on the server?
#1221 [18:50] <Shuuji> no
#1222 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> what OS is the system running?
#1223 [18:51] <Shuuji> win7
#1224 [18:51] <Wug> open tack manager
#1225 [18:51] <Wug> sk*
#1226 [18:51] <Shuuji> k
#1227 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> could you pastebin the contents of your server.properties files?
#1228 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> (after doing what I think Wug is about to have you do)
#1229 [18:51] <Shuuji> k mom
#1230 [18:51] <Shuuji> #Minecraft server properties
#1231 [18:51] <Shuuji> #Mon May 09 20:20:20 CEST 2011
#1232 [18:51] <Shuuji> level-name=
#1233 [18:51] <Shuuji> hellworld=false
#1234 [18:51] <Shuuji> spawn-monsters=true
#1235 [18:51] <Shuuji> online-mode=true
#1236 [18:51] <Shuuji> spawn-animals=true
#1237 [18:51] <Shuuji> cant send ^^
#1238 [18:51] <Shuuji> too much
#1239 [18:51] <DopeGhoti> bin. pastebin. (:
#1240 [18:51] <Wug> safely close all java things you have running
#1241 [18:51] <Wug> minecraft, servers, whatever
#1242 [18:52] <Wug> use /stop
#1243 [18:52] <Wug> then look in the tack manager for any instances of java or javaw that are still running
#1244 [18:52] <Shuuji> i already rebooted the computer
#1245 [18:52] <Wug> well then
#1246 [18:52] <Wug> do you have limited user rights?
#1247 [18:52] <Shuuji> there are non
#1248 [18:52] <Shuuji> where?
#1249 [18:52] <Wug> ok
#1250 [18:53] <Shuuji> at the game or pc?
#1251 [18:53] <Wug> pc
#1252 [18:53] <Shuuji> i got admin rights ^^
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#1254 [18:53] <Wug> ok, so its probably not that
#1255 [18:53] <Shuuji> mh
#1256 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> please go to pastebin.com and pate the contents of your server.properties there, and give us the URL.
#1257 [18:53] <Wug> its probably what dopeghoti suspects
#1258 [18:53] <Shift_> Hello, what does minebot do?
#1259 [18:53] <Wug> stuff.
#1260 [18:53] <Shift_> what kinda stuff? is there a help?
#1261 [18:53] <Wug> minebot and espercorn are the same thing
#1262 [18:54] <Wug> its a services bot for channel protection
#1263 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> it's an alias for ChanServ basically.
#1264 [18:54] * Wug notes that minebot isnt in this channel
#1264 [18:54] <Wug> you should probably go to somewhere with minebot to ask about it
#1265 [18:54] <Shuuji> http://pastebin.com/RTxqUzG2
#1266 [18:54] <Shuuji> there
#1267 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> danke. Ein Moment.
#1268 [18:54] <Wug> clear the server ip line
#1269 [18:55] <Wug> to just server-ip=
#1270 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> doch, remove the IP from the server-ip line; leave it blank
#1271 [18:55] <Wug> that will probably fix it
#1272 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> ??< index
#1273 [18:55] <Shift_> I first asked in #bukkit, no reply. Then I asked in #help and was sent here. I guess it's a secret. D=
#1274 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/server-ip
#1275 [18:55] <VoxelHead> smp/server-ip: Do not enter anything on the server-ip= line of the server.properties file. In nearly ALL cases, you want to leave it blank.
#1276 [18:55] <Wug> shift_, ask in #risucraft
#1277 [18:56] <Wug> or ask in #minecraft, because espercorn is the same thing
#1278 [18:56] <Wug> that line has very specific use cases, the majority of which do not apply to regular consumers
#1279 [18:56] <Shift_> thanks, Wug .
#1280 [18:56] <Wug> and the server will attempt to auto-detect settings if none are provided, so the best option is usually to leave it blank
#1281 [18:57] <Shuuji> @DopeGhoti ???
#1282 [18:57] <Shuuji> was nu? ^^
#1283 [18:57] <Wug> ^ that's not a sentence?
#1284 [18:58] <Shuuji> sure ^^
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#1286 [18:58] <Shuuji> thats german xDD
#1287 [18:58] * Wug isn't german :(
#1287 [18:58] <Shuuji> sry ^^
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#1290 [18:58] <Shuuji> can someone say me what ive got to do now??
#1291 [18:59] <Shuuji> pls ^^
#1292 [18:59] <Wug> <Wug> clear the server ip line
#1293 [18:59] <Wug> <Wug> to just server-ip=
#1294 [18:59] <Kealper> Shuuji: take the IP out of your server.properties
#1295 [18:59] <Wug> We already said it
#1296 [18:59] <Kealper> to say server-ip=
#1297 [18:59] <Shuuji> oh sry xD
#1298 [19:00] <Shuuji> ok it runs thx ^^
#1299 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> Shuuji: Bitte schoen.
#1300 [19:01] <Shuuji> ok now my friends cant join
#1301 [19:02] <Shuuji> why?
#1302 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> Shuuji: what happens when they try?
#1303 [19:02] <Shuuji> fail to connect to server
#1304 [19:02] <Shuuji> connection timed out
#1305 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> Have you got the ports properly forwarded on your router?
#1306 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> have you given your friends the correct IP?
#1307 [19:02] <Shuuji> jep
#1308 [19:02] <Shuuji> ja hab ich ^
#1309 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> you said you had rebooted; its internal IP may have changed.
#1310 [19:03] <Shuuji> ???
#1311 [19:03] <Shuuji> wie meinst das @DopeGhoti
#1312 [19:03] <Shuuji> ?
#1313 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> Sein IP Addresse ist veilleicht neu; Machen Sie 'ipconfig' im cmd.exe.
#1314 [19:04] <Shuuji> ja hat sich geändert von 50 auf 51 am ende ^^
#1315 [19:04] <Shuuji> was muss ich jetzt machen ^
#1316 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> (Mein Deutschsprache ist nicht so gut; ein moment bitte, dass ich can mitt Google ubersetzen)
#1317 [19:05] <Shuuji> no i can speak in english too sry ^^
#1318 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> even better.
#1319 [19:05] <Shuuji> the intern ip adress changed from 50 to 51 at the end
#1320 [19:06] <Shuuji> what do i have to do now? ^^
#1321 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> Okay, what you need to do now is go into your router's settings
#1322 [19:06] <Shuuji> yeah
#1323 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> and forward the Mincecraft port to the new IP address
#1324 [19:06] <Shuuji> i am ^^
#1325 [19:06] <Shuuji> ???
#1326 [19:06] <Shuuji> ah ok
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#1329 [19:16] <JDubb9> hey when i play minecraft it shuts down after a few mins and this error pops up saying an error with java runtime enviroment has occured wat do i do?
#1330 [19:17] <aetherian> pastebin (pastebin.com) the entire error message
#1331 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> ?? specific
#1332 [19:18] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1333 [19:18] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#1334 [19:18] <aetherian> whatever
#1335 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> (was informing as to why we want the whole thing)
#1336 [19:18] <Shuuji> ok i port-forwarded
#1337 [19:19] <Shuuji> and now?
#1338 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> !check g224141047.adsl.alicedsl.de
#1339 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> is the server running?
#1340 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> and is it running from the machine you're on IRC from?
#1341 [19:19] <Shuuji> yeah
#1342 [19:19] <Shuuji> but they cant join it
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#1344 [19:19] <Shuuji> yeah
#1345 [19:19] <JDubb9> do i paste the entire message in it
#1346 [19:20] <Kealper> JDubb9: yes, everything into the pastebin site
#1347 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> then it should be working, but something is wrong with the port-forwarding itself
#1348 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> verify that port and that it's being forwarded to your new internal IP
#1349 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> also, what IP are your friends using to connect?
#1350 [19:20] <Shuuji> me external ip
#1351 [19:21] <Shuuji> *my
#1352 [19:21] <Omini> I have a problem where I try to run the .exe downloaded from the minecraft server, but my pc wont run it (it just pings as if an error message should appear, but nothing happens.) I'm running a Windows XP machine, anyone able to suggest how to fix it?
#1353 [19:21] <Omini> minecraft server = minecraft website*
#1354 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> Omini: do you hvae Java installed?
#1355 [19:22] <Shuuji> still time out
#1356 [19:22] <Omini> DopeGhoti, I updated my java, the browser version runs fine to an extent
#1357 [19:22] <Shuuji> i port forwarded to the new internal ip adress
#1358 [19:22] <Shuuji> but still it wont work
#1359 [19:23] <Shuuji> why
#1360 [19:23] <JDubb9> so i paste the message in the box then wat?
#1361 [19:23] <Omini> just tried the browser version again, it seems to work but tends to get large lag spikes
#1362 [19:24] <Omini> (I'm using Google Chrome)
#1363 [19:25] <Shuuji> @DopeGhoti: what shoul i do now?
#1364 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> Omini: try running the .exe at the commandline and see what error if any that it give syou
#1365 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> Shuuji: The first thing I would do is verify your internla IP , external IP, and all your port forwarding settings, including removing and re-entering them in your router.
#1366 [19:26] <Shuuji> ??
#1367 [19:26] <Omini> DopeGhoti, is the commandline accessed by going to Start > Run?
#1368 [19:26] <Shuuji> what do u mean with "verifying"?
#1369 [19:26] <Omini> verifying means to make sure, or to confirm
#1370 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> Shuuji ip/external
#1371 [19:26] <VoxelHead> Shuuji: (ip/external) Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#1372 [19:27] <Shuuji> im using whatsmyip.com
#1373 [19:27] <Kealper> faster to just type !myip in here...lol
#1374 [19:27] <Shuuji> it says my ip adress is 92.224.141.47
#1375 [19:27] <Shuuji> but my friends cant connect to that ip
#1376 [19:28] <Shuuji> mom im rebooting my poc
#1377 [19:28] <Shuuji> pc*
#1378 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: yes, but I like hearing/seeing peoples' reactions to the second link.
#1379 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> shuuji: I'm not your mother.
#1380 [19:29] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: didn't even catch that...i'm totally going to it lol
#1381 [19:29] <Kealper> LOL
#1382 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> was it all you'd hoped for?
#1383 [19:30] <Omini> hahahahaha
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#1385 [19:30] <Kealper> better, it even looks like a porn site lol
#1386 [19:30] <wilma> Hey, can anyone help me with sever plugins?
#1387 [19:31] <Omini> DopeGhoti, how do I access the commandline?
#1388 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Omini: start -> run -> 'cmd'
#1389 [19:32] <Omini> and then the command is what? run <insert Minecraft.exe file path here>?
#1390 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> indeed, without the 'run'
#1391 [19:33] <Omini> ah so just the file path
#1392 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> C:\Path\To\The\Stuff\minecraft_server.exe
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#1394 [19:33] <Linarish> .. Guess not.
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#1396 [19:33] <Kealper> Linarish: hmm?
#1397 [19:34] <Linarish> I asked, can anyone help me with sever plugins.
#1398 [19:34] <Omini> minecraft_server.exe??
#1399 [19:34] <Omini> I only have minecraft.exe
#1400 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> ah, well, that then (:
#1401 [19:34] <Linarish> Course, what else would I use?
#1402 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> Linarish: to a small extent, we can advise.
#1403 [19:34] <Linarish> How-so I don't even know HOW to put them in the sever.
#1404 [19:35] <Linarish> I also don't know how to get them, the hey0 form is down to my computer, and I don't know any other place.
#1405 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#1406 [19:35] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#1407 [19:35] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1408 [19:35] <Omini> DopeGhoti, So I typed in C:\"Documents and Settings"\Ebayer\"My Documents"\Downloads\Minecraft.exe and it plays the error sound but doesn't give any information on it within the cmd
#1409 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> might be a corrupt download
#1410 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> erase it, and redownload.
#1411 [19:36] <Omini> I've downloaded it about 5 times
#1412 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> any security software on your computer at all?
#1413 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> ??> Omini win/profile
#1414 [19:36] <VoxelHead> Omini: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1415 [19:36] <VoxelHead> Omini: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1416 [19:37] <Omini> Voxel, I can tell you already the something amiss with my system as a whole is that it's a heap of %*"£ that runs on Windows XP.
#1417 [19:37] <Omini> But I'll give that a shot
#1418 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
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#1420 [19:41] <Shuuji> @DopeGhoti???
#1421 [19:41] <Shuuji> ive got a new prob
#1422 [19:41] <Shuuji> i returned my internal ip adress back to the old one it was before
#1423 [19:41] <Shuuji> and now when my friends want to join it says connection refused why???
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#1425 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> Shuuji: did you update the port forwarding settings to reflect your new internal IP?
#1426 [19:42] <Shuuji> no i got my old internal ip adress back
#1427 [19:42] <Shuuji> port-forwardings are still there for that ip
#1428 [19:43] <Shuuji> but why it says connection refused??
#1429 [19:43] <linarish> Can anyone tell me why I'm possibly not able to see my Meta~inf files in my minecraft.jar?
#1430 [19:43] <linarish> All I see is photos and class files.
#1431 [19:43] <linarish> No folders.
#1432 [19:44] <Shuuji> @DopeGhoti??
#1433 [19:44] <Omini> No that didn't seem to work either.
#1434 [19:44] <Omini> Gonna have to go through all my opened programs to make sure there are no other firewalls present.
#1435 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> Shuuji: and you are certain that you have the server running?
#1436 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> Shuuji: when I get home from work I will try to assist you via TamViewer if you are amenable.
#1437 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> linarish - Are you looking at the right minecraft.jar?
#1438 [19:46] <linarish> I don't have two .jars
#1439 [19:46] <linarish> Only one.
#1440 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> What is the location of minecraft.jar that you're looking at?
#1441 [19:47] <linarish> In my bin of course.
#1442 [19:47] <Shuuji> i am sure cause i can join the server?
#1443 [19:48] <Shuuji> !
#1444 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> linarish - There should be at least a dozen folders in minecraft.jar in your /.minecraft/bin folder
#1445 [19:48] <linarish> I don't have any of em in there.
#1446 [19:48] <linarish> All I see is one big pile of folders.
#1447 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#1448 [19:49] <linarish> I mean one big pile of class files.
#1449 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> And minecraft launches fine?
#1450 [19:49] <linarish> Yeah..
#1451 [19:50] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1451 [19:50] <Omini> So Minecraft runs fine on my Laptop. Seems my PC is at fault... wonderful stuff.
#1452 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Could you delete the /bin/ folder, and relaunch minecraft so that it'll download a fresh copy of minecraft.jar
#1453 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Then look again
#1454 [19:51] <linarish> I've done that.
#1455 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> What in the... there should be quite a few folders.
#1456 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> What are you opening it in?
#1457 [19:52] <linarish> Winrar.
#1458 [19:52] <linarish> It used to show folders before.
#1459 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Yeah...
#1460 [19:52] <Omini> Are the folders in minecraft.jar ever flagged as hidden?
#1461 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't be
#1462 [19:52] <linarish> Shouldn't be at all.
#1463 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> I'm using winrar, and can see the folders just fine
#1464 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> I'm a little confused..
#1465 [19:53] <linarish> Shows the path.
#1466 [19:53] <linarish> But.
#1467 [19:53] <linarish> Not the folders.
#1468 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Screenshot?
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#1471 [19:57] <linarish> K uploadin.
#1472 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> don't use winrar. Use a non-piece-of-tripe program, like 7Zip
#1473 [19:58] <linarish> http://s297.photobucket.com/albums/mm201/TeenSasuke_2008/?action=view¤t=Minecraftscreen.png
#1474 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Nothing wrong with winrar...
#1475 [19:58] * GreyVulpine coughs
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#1476 [20:01] <linarish> Lol.
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#1478 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Wait a sec...
#1479 [20:03] <linarish> Hmm?
#1480 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Go up to options -> flat folder view
#1481 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> uncheck it
#1482 [20:04] <Omini> How do you grow trees?
#1483 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Omini - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Sapling
#1484 [20:04] <Omini> Ah right ^-^
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#1486 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> linarish - Got it?
#1487 [20:16] <Omini> Thanks for all the help
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#1494 [20:43] <implord> hi all
#1495 [20:43] <implord> question about lava, why cant i pick up lave with a bucket?
#1496 [20:44] <implord> lava*
#1497 [20:45] <xolotl> implord: You can only pick up lava "source" blocks, btw; you can't pick up running lava
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#1499 [20:48] <implord> oh well thats not good.. lol.. was just trying to make a few things, guess i can work around that though :) thanks
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#1511 [21:26] <TheNytangel> !check 65.19.250.8
#1512 [21:26] <TheNytangel> >.>
#1513 [21:26] <TheNytangel> damn you, bukkit
#1514 [21:26] <TheNytangel> everything worked before
#1515 [21:27] <TheNytangel> Hey DopeGhoti..
#1516 [21:28] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine
#1517 [21:28] <TheNytangel> My command prompt has stopped working..
#1518 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1519 [21:29] <TheNytangel> I try to do ipconfig, and it says..
#1520 [21:29] <TheNytangel> ' ipconfig' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
#1521 [21:29] <TheNytangel> and I also tried shutdown -s -t 10
#1522 [21:30] <TheNytangel> nothing works >.>
#1523 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> ...
#1524 [21:42] <linarish> Can anyone help me set up like a bukkit sever?
#1525 [21:43] <linarish> Kinda confused on set paths part.
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#1530 [21:51] <outsomnia> ergh
#1531 [21:52] <outsomnia> is it normal to not be able to connect to minecraft.net on the launcher right now?
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#1533 [21:58] <outsomnia> helloooo?
#1534 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> No, it's not normal.
#1535 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft should be up right now
#1536 [22:01] <outsomnia> so are there any stock fixes for that?
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#1539 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> outsomnia - You get "Cannot connect to minecraft.net" as an error?
#1540 [22:05] <outsomnia> Aye
#1541 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> First thought is that your system date/time is incorrectr
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#1549 [22:58] <InfectedSoul> Hello i need hekp
#1550 [22:59] <InfectedSoul> help*
#1551 [22:59] <InfectedSoul> my java keeps giving me connection abort and i reinstalled it and all and even deleted the server files
#1552 [23:04] <Captain-Lightning> Grey will ninja it anyway.
#1553 [23:04] <Captain-Lightning> Just wait for him.
#1554 [23:05] <InfectedSoul> i have no patients as i wanna play now :(
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#1558 [23:21] <slimer> whats the best way to backup your minecraft server?
#1559 [23:21] <DopeGhoti> slimer: cron, rsync, and tar
#1560 [23:22] <DopeGhoti> InfectedSoul: if you have no patients, treat yourself so that you will no longer be infected.
#1561 [23:22] <slimer> i run it off my windows, which one is best
#1562 [23:23] <DopeGhoti> in that case
#1563 [23:23] <InfectedSoul> i just want this issue fixed :(
#1564 [23:23] <DopeGhoti> cygwin cron, rsync, and tar
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#1569 [23:36] <Kealper> bleh...my chat program i'm working on is now like 2k lines of code
#1570 [23:37] <xales> Kealper: Should have used a real language
#1571 [23:37] <xales> At least an object-oriented one
#1572 [23:37] <xales> ._.
#1573 [23:37] <xales> I would probably use C# over AutoIt, TBH
#1574 [23:37] <xales> If only for the lack of object-orientedness
#1575 [23:37] <Kealper> OO is....not needed :/
#1576 [23:38] <xales> You'd be surprised how helpful it can be
#1577 [23:38] <InfectedSoul> so what i do with my error?
#1578 [23:38] <Kealper> there have been a few times durring this that i would have liked au3 to be fully OO...but it was nothing major
#1579 [23:38] <xales> Kealper: Have you actually used extensively an OO language? ._.
#1580 [23:38] <xales> InfectedSoul: What error?
#1581 [23:39] <InfectedSoul> my java keeps giving me connection abort and i reinstalled it and all and even deleted the server files
#1582 [23:39] <Kealper> xales: not really, so i don't have much to base my opinion on... :/
#1583 [23:39] <xales> :P
#1584 [23:39] <xales> InfectedSoul: What, exactly, is the error it gives you?
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#1586 [23:41] <InfectedSoul> internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: socket write
#1587 [23:41] <InfectedSoul> thats all i can
#1588 [23:41] <InfectedSoul> see
#1589 [23:41] <xales> Do you have a firewall running?
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#1591 [23:42] <InfectedSoul> i have avast running and i killed that and same shit
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#1594 [23:44] * Kealper is working on CTCP-like features for his chat client
#1594 [23:44] <xales> InfectedSoul: Anything else?
#1595 [23:44] <Captain-Lightning> o/
#1596 [23:44] <InfectedSoul> no thats all
#1597 [23:45] <InfectedSoul> it worked when i had avg and then i installed avast and went to play yesterday and it fails
#1598 [23:46] <InfectedSoul> so im gonna try and uninstall it
#1599 [23:46] <InfectedSoul> brb need a reboot then ill let u know
#1600 [23:50] <Kealper> xales: as you have more experience with OO languages....what sorts of headaches could i get myself into if i were using one? lol
#1601 [23:50] <xales> s/get myself into/save myself from/
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#1603 [23:50] <InfectedSoul> now its timing out
#1604 [23:51] <xales> What IP are you trying to connect to?
#1605 [23:51] <InfectedSoul> my server's but im using a random server to test atm
#1606 [23:51] <InfectedSoul> mcfaction.net
#1607 [23:51] <Kealper> !check mcfaction.net
#1608 [23:52] <InfectedSoul> now im getting the old error
#1609 [23:53] <InfectedSoul> turned off the windows firewall
#1610 [23:53] <xales> Have you tried reinstalling Minecraft?
#1611 [23:53] <InfectedSoul> billions of times
#1612 [23:53] <xales> Do you have another computer on the same Internet connection you could try it on?
#1613 [23:54] <xales> Kealper: Ever played FreeSpace 2?
#1614 [23:54] <InfectedSoul> my laptop but minecraft wont work :(
#1615 [23:54] <InfectedSoul> my buddy can play on my server just fine
#1616 [23:54] <Kealper> xales: nope
#1617 [23:55] <xales> Create a new user account on your computer (a system accoint; not a Minecraft account) and see if it works there
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