#MinecraftHelp > 2011-05-11
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#2 [00:13] <InfectedSoul> same thing
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#4 [00:15] <InfectedSoul> this is freaking gay i wasted money on a game that doesnt wanna work
#5 [00:16] <Ps991> Is it true that if you buy the game now you will not receive updates past the release in november...
#6 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Ps991 - There has been no talk of updates past final for either alpha or beta
#7 [00:16] <Ps991> its in the blog...
#8 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> The only license change is that Expansions past release, are free for alpha, and not for beta
#9 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> There has also been no talk of any expansions in development yet.
#10 [00:17] <Ps991> oh so it is not a waste of money to buy it now?
#11 [00:17] <Kealper> any bug fixes and the likes are still given out free to all
#12 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> No.
#13 [00:17] <Ps991> okay well thats good i guess...
#14 [00:17] <Ps991> thank you
#15 [00:17] <InfectedSoul> so what can i do to fix my problem?
#16 [00:18] <Ps991> which is?
#17 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> InfectedSoul - Can you play via single player?
#18 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Does minecraft actually run?
#19 [00:18] <InfectedSoul> the java.net.socketexpection: cause connection abort
#20 [00:18] <Kealper> we really need to write something that clearly explains that whole alpha vs. beta thing..way too many people don't understand it :/
#21 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#22 [00:18] <InfectedSoul> i dont really do single player as i host my own server
#23 [00:18] <InfectedSoul> it worked for weeks
#24 [00:18] <Ps991> update java?
#25 [00:18] <InfectedSoul> till yesterday
#26 [00:18] <InfectedSoul> its the latest
#27 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> InfectedSoul - Doesn't mean that minecraft doesn't run
#28 [00:19] <InfectedSoul> minecraft runs
#29 [00:19] <Ps991> infected, what are you trying to do, host a server?
#30 [00:19] <InfectedSoul> i see the game
#31 [00:19] <InfectedSoul> i have a dedi that hosts the server
#32 [00:19] <InfectedSoul> i get the dam error and everyone else is fine
#33 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> InfectedSoul - So then, it's a connection problem.
#34 [00:19] <Kealper> ^
#35 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> How is the server hosted? Where is it hosted?
#36 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> How are you trying to connect to it?
#37 [00:19] <Ps991> im not quite sure, but have you tried port forwarding
#38 [00:19] <InfectedSoul> its hosted in the states
#39 [00:19] <InfectedSoul> and i used cyber.nixsh3lls.org
#40 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
#41 [00:20] <InfectedSoul> which i killed the minecraft
#42 [00:20] <InfectedSoul> its in a datacenter
#43 [00:20] * InfectedSoul checks
#43 [00:20] <Kealper> !lookup cyber.nixsh3lls.org
#44 [00:20] <Kealper> ^
#45 [00:21] <InfectedSoul> 1500 Champa St. data center in Denver houses SSA offices which means professional
#46 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> InfectedSoul - Then can you connect to other servers via your client without problems?
#47 [00:21] <InfectedSoul> i get the same error when i try any other server
#48 [00:22] <InfectedSoul> this is the 2nd day now
#49 [00:22] <InfectedSoul> worked up till yesterday
#50 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like a network problem on your end then. You said it worked before?
#51 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> What has changed since then?
#52 [00:22] <InfectedSoul> i removed avg and got avast
#53 [00:22] <InfectedSoul> lol
#54 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Just the antivirus?
#55 [00:23] * InfectedSoul nods
#55 [00:23] <InfectedSoul> i removed avast and same shit though
#56 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Have you done a reinstall of the minecraft files?
#57 [00:23] <InfectedSoul> 600000000 billion times
#58 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> That's quite a lot. Have you looked into possibly updating your network card's drivers?
#59 [00:24] <InfectedSoul> wifi usb adapater... updated to latest already
#60 [00:24] <xales> Those things tend to have..issues
#61 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any other means of connecting to your network?
#62 [00:24] <Kealper> and it was working fine with that same adapter earlier?
#63 [00:25] <InfectedSoul> ya
#64 [00:25] <InfectedSoul> it was
#65 [00:25] <InfectedSoul> and no
#66 [00:25] <InfectedSoul> all the ports are used
#67 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> USB wifi adapters have a.. reputation of being craptastic
#68 [00:25] <InfectedSoul> i do have a newer usb card as its for a linux box
#69 [00:26] <Kealper> InfectedSoul: also...when do you get that error? immediately upon connecting or after some time?
#70 [00:26] <InfectedSoul> like 3mins after im on
#71 [00:26] <Kealper> does the whole world load for you or just the region around you?
#72 [00:26] <InfectedSoul> i deleted my server today and redid it i was on for a few hours then it crapped out
#73 [00:27] <InfectedSoul> most of it loads... took a little bit at first to load
#74 [00:27] <xales> hmm
#75 [00:27] <xales> InfectedSoul: http://speedtest.net/ run the test, give us the results
#76 [00:27] <InfectedSoul> like im really getting frasurated with this shit
#77 [00:28] <InfectedSoul> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1290664467.png
#78 [00:29] <xales> The upload is a bit..pathetic, but it's otherwise okay...
#79 [00:29] <xales> hmm
#80 [00:29] <xales> have you tried it under a new user account?
#81 [00:29] <InfectedSoul> yes and it doesnt work
#82 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Any way you can connect the computer directly to the modem or router with an ethernet cord?
#83 [00:31] <InfectedSoul> idk if the cables are all being used
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#85 [00:39] <InfectedSoul> cable he gave me doesnt work :(
#86 [00:40] <InfectedSoul> i can play single player just fine
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#88 [00:41] <InfectedSoul> this is pissing me off
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#90 [00:43] <xales> InfectedSoul: And you don't have another computer you could try it on?
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#92 [00:43] <InfectedSoul> just my laptop but its an older one and minecraft doesnt like it
#93 [00:44] <xales> If you can even get to the menu, you would be able to check if it's a connection problem or an issue with that computer specifically
#94 [00:44] <InfectedSoul> what menu?
#95 [00:44] <xales> Minecraft?
#96 [00:44] <InfectedSoul> i can see a little of mcfaction.net then it craps out
#97 [00:45] <xales> "craps out" how?
#98 [00:45] <InfectedSoul> and when i login i can get to muilt or single
#99 [00:45] <InfectedSoul> the socket erro
#100 [00:45] <InfectedSoul> r
#101 [00:46] <InfectedSoul> here ill screen it
#102 [00:47] <InfectedSoul> now its a time out error
#103 [00:47] <xales> Is this on the laptop?
#104 [00:47] <InfectedSoul> no my desktop
#105 [00:48] <InfectedSoul> i need to put the other hdd back in for windows :P
#106 [00:48] <xales> You've already explained it. I asked if you were able to test it on your laptop
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#108 [00:53] <InfectedSoul> im trying to tell you my laptop is a peice of shit minecraft wont play on it
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#110 [00:54] <xales> It's one thing if "Minecraft doesn't like it" but "Minecraft doesn't work at all" is another thing entirely
#111 [00:55] <InfectedSoul> doesnt like my video card driver and they stopped making drivers for it back in 2007
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#116 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#117 [01:15] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.624 seconds.
#118 [01:15] <McBag> !ping
#119 [01:15] <GreyBot> McBag Your Ping time was 0.655 seconds.
#120 [01:15] <GreyBot> AuBot Your Ping time was 3.432 seconds.
#121 [01:15] <Kealper> woh
#122 [01:15] * Kealper checks his internet
#122 [01:16] <GreyBot> AuBot Your Ping time was 0.515 seconds.
#123 [01:16] <McBag> !ping
#124 [01:16] <GreyBot> McBag Your Ping time was 0.936 seconds.
#125 [01:16] <Kealper> it can't
#126 [01:17] <xales> :<
#127 [01:17] <Kealper> irc doesn't work like that
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#129 [01:17] <xales> It does, though...
#130 [01:17] <Kealper> nope
#131 [01:17] <Kealper> it doesn't send back what you sent
#132 [01:17] <xales> For somethings, it does
#133 [01:17] <xales> I guess not PRIVMSG then
#134 [01:17] <xales> >:|
#135 [01:18] <Kealper> i know it does it for joins/parts, but not for any methods of chatting
#136 [01:19] <xales> Kealper: I just realized something funny
#137 [01:19] <xales> you can PRIVMSG yourself
#138 [01:19] <xales> ._.
#139 [01:19] <Kealper> lol
#140 [01:20] <Kealper> AuBot sends a notice to itself like every 15 sec or so to get it's latency lol
#141 [01:20] <xales> lol
#142 [01:20] <xales> how crude
#143 [01:21] <Kealper> it's not really that crude, the notice contains a timestamp, and it can judge it's latency down to like....microseconds lol
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#145 [01:35] <InfectedSoul> what java do i need?
#146 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#147 [01:37] <InfectedSoul> well i have both jre and jdk latest versions
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#155 [01:57] <GLaDOS> InfectedSoul, 1.7?
#156 [01:59] <InfectedSoul> i have 1.6
#157 [01:59] <GLaDOS> ah
#158 [01:59] <GLaDOS> good
#159 [01:59] <GLaDOS> 1.7 slightly incompatible
#160 [02:00] <InfectedSoul> wish i didnt get the java socket error :(
#161 [02:00] <InfectedSoul> i miss playing
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#163 [02:06] <InfectedSoul> wtf
#164 [02:06] <InfectedSoul> its working on my vps for now
#165 [02:07] <InfectedSoul> maybe its fixed now?
#166 [02:08] <Wug> 1.7 is beta. use 1.6 until 1.7 is actually released
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#168 [02:10] <InfectedSoul> i find it weird that its working but im gonna knock on wood
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#173 [02:24] <mlSSStress> hello all. looking for a tutorial for a one-lever opening two separate doors. if anyone can help me locate one, I would greatly appreciate it
#174 [02:26] <xales> It's simple. Just connect it to two doors
#175 [02:27] <mlSSStress> so a lever with redstone to two doors?
#176 [02:27] <mlSSStress> :)
#177 [02:27] <xales> Yes
#178 [02:27] <InfectedSoul> so far no crashes xales lol
#179 [02:27] <InfectedSoul> idk what i did
#180 [02:27] <mlSSStress> redstone is lost on me. i'm workin on it :D thank you
#181 [02:29] <aikaramba> i'd place each door next to the lever
#182 [02:29] <aikaramba> easier than redstone
#183 [02:29] <aikaramba> eg: DOOR|LEVER|DOOR
#184 [02:29] <mlSSStress> can it have one block between?
#185 [02:30] <mlSSStress> ah no then
#186 [02:30] <mlSSStress> gotcha
#187 [02:30] <mlSSStress> that should be fine
#188 [02:30] <mlSSStress> i'm working on a secure trading booth
#189 [02:30] <aikaramba> youre not working
#190 [02:30] <aikaramba> :D
#191 [02:30] <aikaramba> youre playing
#192 [02:30] <mlSSStress> <3 well. i won't be able to use it for months
#193 [02:31] <mlSSStress> i'm getting an smp server set up to go public within our community before i lose internet access for two months D
#194 [02:31] <mlSSStress> :D
#195 [02:31] <aikaramba> omg
#196 [02:31] <aikaramba> :D
#197 [02:31] <mlSSStress> so hopefully sometime in the near-ish future i'll be able to enjoy it
#198 [02:31] <mlSSStress> i guess for now it is in fact play
#199 [02:31] <mlSSStress> :)
#200 [02:37] <mlSSStress> see the door
#201 [02:37] <mlSSStress> door|lever|door doesn't open them both at once
#202 [02:37] <mlSSStress> it opens one or the other
#203 [02:38] * InfectedSoul loves minecraft when it wants to work
#203 [02:38] <InfectedSoul> i stopped play wow to play minecraft :P
#204 [02:39] <mlSSStress> what i'll eventually need to do is have one outdoor switch open both doors at the same time, have them close after the two people enter, and then have buttons in each cubicle for the other cubicle's back exit door
#205 [02:39] <mlSSStress> just trying to find a tutorial, i saw something similar at one point earlier.. lemme see if i can find it
#206 [02:40] <aikaramba> what if someone dies inside?
#207 [02:41] <mlSSStress> not sure how they'd manage that
#208 [02:41] <mlSSStress> o.o
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#210 [02:42] <aikaramba> lost in minecraft
#211 [02:42] <aikaramba> must drink my own ...
#212 [02:42] <aikaramba> the game is viral
#213 [02:42] <aikaramba> i need a doctor
#214 [02:43] <aikaramba> :D
#215 [02:43] <aikaramba> it causes a true addiction
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#217 [02:46] <InfectedSoul> i wanna build a huge city :)
#218 [02:46] <mlSSStress> i'm working on it! :O
#219 [02:46] <InfectedSoul> whats ur addy?
#220 [02:47] <mlSSStress> http://www.dm8x.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=2040&sid=27cda66f3bd21b7e5de064cdb8e76c46
#221 [02:47] <mlSSStress> 96.44.143.180:25575
#222 [02:47] <mlSSStress> username?
#223 [02:47] <InfectedSoul> psychoshield :)
#224 [02:48] <InfectedSoul> OMG NICE SIGN!
#225 [02:48] <InfectedSoul> lol
#226 [02:49] <mlSSStress> sup?
#227 [02:49] <aikaramba> i wonder if you can do ascii art with multiple signs
#228 [02:49] <InfectedSoul> the penis sign lol
#229 [02:50] <mlSSStress> haha karamba
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#231 [02:54] <InfectedSoul> bed time for me
#232 [02:54] <InfectedSoul> night
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#243 [04:08] <Thunder1> i am looking for a trick to finde the 4free item signs on a server
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#259 [05:47] <Harloff> Hey
#260 [05:47] <lemon-rev> hey
#261 [05:47] <Harloff> I have some troubles, my minecraft keeps crashing after I added a texture pack
#262 [05:48] <lemon-rev> thats because its a mod, and we dont deal with it, and well texture pack unless you use like #bukket then sorry no go
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#264 [05:49] <Harloff> I just need to remove it again, and I can't seem to find the folders.
#265 [05:50] <MCMAUser_245> Hey, I'm using MCMA to host a cracked server, I have changed server.properties onlie mode to false, but non-premium members can't connect, can someone help me with it?
#266 [05:51] <lemon-rev> what exactly do you mean by cracked, ie, you have no account with a server running or what ? this isnt the channel to use for mods
#267 [05:51] <MCMAUser_245> I was directed here from the MCMA channel.
#268 [05:52] <MCMAUser_245> Cracked as in, no account needed to log in.
#269 [05:52] <lemon-rev> not, going to help, ie hacked not brought, cant help you, sorry
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#271 [05:52] <Silent_Samurai> Thats the reason we moved him here.
#272 [05:52] <MCMAUser_245> Oh for God's sake/
#273 [05:52] <Silent_Samurai> Look bro, just buy the game...
#274 [05:53] <MCMAUser_245> I bought the game, I;m trying to convince a friend to buy it.
#275 [05:53] <Silent_Samurai> I have 2 accounts (who doesn't want an alt account?)
#276 [05:53] <Silent_Samurai> Just buy it for him then, and he can pay you back IRL.
#277 [05:53] <lemon-rev> hm, well get him on your computer and help him, play it
#278 [05:53] <MCMAUser_245> I am not buying him an account, he has is own money.
#279 [05:53] <Harloff> Can someone help me with removing a texture pack outside of the game?
#280 [05:54] <lemon-rev> harloff delete the /bin directory and let mc download files again
#281 [05:54] <lemon-rev> good luck
#282 [05:54] <lemon-rev> and delte the texture folder
#283 [05:54] <Harloff> What is the path to the /bin folder, I can't find it...
#284 [05:54] <Silent_Samurai> %appdata%/.minecraft/bin
#285 [05:55] <MCMAUser_245> So, you're not going to help me for the sake of I want to run a cracked server to convince a friend to buy Minecraft?
#286 [05:55] <lemon-rev> no
#287 [05:55] <Silent_Samurai> &_&
#288 [05:55] <lemon-rev> if yuo have brought a the game then possible be able to help
#289 [05:55] <lemon-rev> but not to help set up a cracked server
#290 [05:55] <MCMAUser_245> I have bought the game
#291 [05:55] <Harloff> Thank you so much for the help!
#292 [05:55] <Silent_Samurai> Np Harloff.
#293 [05:56] <AG_Clinton> There's not much to demo for him anyway. I mean there's thousands of videos of the game.
#294 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> As well as the minecraft demo..
#295 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#296 [05:57] <AG_Clinton> Either buy it or don't. Condoning illegal activity is a bad idea.
#297 [05:57] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survivial, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#298 [05:57] <MCMAUser_245> What, are you referring to me?
#299 [05:57] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#300 [05:57] <MCMAUser_245> I bought it, I said it three times.
#301 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> Yes MCMAUser_245.
#302 [05:57] <MCMAUser_245> Open your damn ears.
#303 [05:57] <AG_Clinton> ./You/ bought it.
#304 [05:57] <AG_Clinton> Your friend didn't.
#305 [05:57] <AG_Clinton> If it was legit on both ends you wouldn't need offline mode.
#306 [05:58] <MCMAUser_245> Ugh
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#309 [05:59] <MCMAUser_245> So you're going to be helpless, and say that because you have no solution?
#310 [05:59] <gayboi213> yes I am
#311 [06:00] <MCMAUser_245> WTF
#312 [06:00] <AG_Clinton> You realize a demo was just linked to you?
#313 [06:00] <AG_Clinton> The game isn't very expensive either.
#314 [06:01] <gayboi213> what is happen?
#315 [06:01] <MCMAUser_245> Stop advertising and give me a damned solution to the server problem.
#316 [06:01] <gayboi213> My dick fell in the drain.
#317 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> !k gayboi213
#318 [06:01] * GreyBot kicked gayboi213 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:634>)
#319 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> Okay then
#320 [06:02] <AG_Clinton> What server problem? I'm not advertising either.
#321 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> Wants to set up a server for his friend who didn't pay for minecraft to join
#322 [06:02] <MCMAUser_245> What server problem? I have repeated it on multiple occasions.
#323 [06:02] <AG_Clinton> It's not a server problem.
#324 [06:02] <MCMAUser_245> Read through the log.
#325 [06:02] <MCMAUser_245> Yes it is.
#326 [06:02] <MCMAUser_245> Read my first message
#327 [06:03] <AG_Clinton> I deal with server "problems" daily and that's not a "problem"
#328 [06:03] <AG_Clinton> That's a variable.
#329 [06:03] <MCMAUser_245> The "problem" is that certain users can't connect. Solve that/
#330 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Not what we're here for, thanks.
#331 [06:03] <AG_Clinton> Tell them to buy the game and login to the game with their accounts.
#332 [06:03] <AG_Clinton> Problem solved.
#333 [06:04] <MCMAUser_245> I;ve been redirected already, where CAN I get help with this issue then? I've searched through the forums already, no help there.
#334 [06:04] <AG_Clinton> You're barking up the wrong tree.
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#336 [06:04] <lemon-rev> you have your soultion , either take it or leave it well alone
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#338 [06:04] <MCMAUser_245> Give me the right lead.
#339 [06:05] <Neropoxing> Yes sir.
#340 [06:05] <lemon-rev> we have, all of us has
#341 [06:05] <MCMAUser_245> That does not solve my problem.
#342 [06:05] <MCMAUser_245> That just dismisses it.
#343 [06:05] <MCMAUser_375> fnjadsngvbsdfngvnfgvsdang
#344 [06:05] <AG_Clinton> Ok honestly.
#345 [06:05] <AG_Clinton> You came with a problem.
#346 [06:05] <AG_Clinton> We gave a solution.
#347 [06:05] <MCMAUser_375> who the fuck are you mate
#348 [06:05] <MCMAUser_245> No you didn't, you just dismissed my preoblem. Give me a solution or redirect me to someone who is capable of that.
#349 [06:05] <AG_Clinton> You take your car to a mechanic, mechanic says you burned your clutch and have to buy a new one.
#350 [06:05] <AG_Clinton> That's a solution.
#351 [06:05] <World> now now kiddies, no fighting
#352 [06:06] <AG_Clinton> There are no leads to help you pirate a game.
#353 [06:06] <MCMAUser_245> This can be fixed. That can't. Give me someone who can give me a solution.
#354 [06:06] <MCMAUser_375> whats all the shit about a fucking mechanic
#355 [06:06] <World> we don't support piracy in the game's official help channel.
#356 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Go yell at the people in #mcmyadmin
#357 [06:06] <MCMAUser_245> I did, they sent me here.
#358 [06:06] <World> grey, can we have a !k
#359 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#360 [06:06] <MCMAUser_245> GET FUCKED
#361 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> !k MCMAUser_245
#362 [06:06] * GreyBot kicked MCMAUser_245 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:635>)
#363 [06:06] <AG_Clinton> He's not our problem GreyVulpine.
#364 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> I know
#365 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> But I'm not in #mcmyadmin
#366 [06:07] <AG_Clinton> Haha.
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#368 [06:07] <AG_Clinton> I like that logic.
#369 [06:07] <World> can voiced users use !k?
#370 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope
#371 [06:07] <World> hmm
#372 [06:07] <World> well, can I have !k anyway
#373 [06:07] <World> and by !k I mean +v (derp)
#374 [06:07] <MCMAUser_375> mvckdsnavndsanvndsvjdsnVNSDJnvjsdnVJNDSvndsbvbdsvbsbvbvbsvbdsbvhsbvbsbvasbvbsdfhbgvsdbvjhbdsalfbdasbhvbshabvabshvbashbvhsabvbhsabvhbsavbasbhvbsahbvhbasvbasbvsabvhbasbvsabvbsahvbhvbhlbryjhgbfvsgbacfhdb sfbvsdhbfvdsacfsdjabgvuhfdhgbvberjghurengjergjsrgjnerjgernjgnrengdfjngvsdfngjrdgnreshngjrengherghbrfgnjegjn
#375 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#376 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> !kb MCMAUser_245
#377 [06:08] * GreyBot kicked MCMAUser_245 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:636>)
#378 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Right then
#379 [06:08] * World waves
#379 [06:08] <_303> you got the wrong one
#380 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#381 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> !kb MCMAUser_375
#382 [06:08] * GreyBot kicked MCMAUser_375 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:637>)
#383 [06:08] <AG_Clinton> Lolol
#384 [06:08] <World> lol
#385 [06:08] <lemon-rev> yay :P
#386 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> So sue me, I'm fuggin tired.
#387 [06:08] <lemon-rev> never, you did well :)
#388 [06:08] * World will do no such thing
#388 [06:09] <World> dont unban him
#389 [06:09] <World> he doesnt seem to get that we're not going to help him crack the game
#390 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> Oh, they're the same person...
#391 [06:09] <AG_Clinton> Gonna sue you for $37
#392 [06:09] <World> actually, it was probably he and his friend
#393 [06:10] <AG_Clinton> After lawyer fees I profit about $-4890.00
#394 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Just bill it to AG
#395 [06:10] <AG_Clinton> Haha.
#396 [06:10] <World> they'll be thrilled
#397 [06:10] <World> anyway, can has +v?
#398 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure the AG guys keep that amount of petty cash around
#399 [06:10] <World> it probably doesn't help that I use like 4 nicks
#400 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#401 [06:11] * World is also Wug, and also It, and also a few others
#401 [06:11] <GreyVulpine> +v isn't asked for, it's thrust upon people in here.
#402 [06:11] <GreyVulpine> The poor bastards.
#403 [06:11] <AG_Clinton> :(
#404 [06:11] <World> can't they remove it from themselves with chanserv if they want to?
#405 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the flag given.
#406 [06:12] <AG_Clinton> Too lazy World.
#407 [06:12] <World> regardless of flag, can't you just set yourself mode -v?
#408 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#409 [06:12] <World> oh wait thats a cmode isnt it
#410 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> +V is automatic voice, +v is the ability to set/unset voice
#411 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> At least, in this network's services
#412 [06:13] <World> well, care to share one or the other of those?
#413 [06:13] <World> alright, I've nagged enough
#414 [06:13] * World jumps to other channels
#414 [06:13] * GreyVulpine bwahs
#414 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> The matter of voice is only dealt with behind the scenes, people don't ask for it, the ops give it to you.
#415 [06:15] <World> I can live with that
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#417 [06:15] <AG_Clinton> Which is why I don't understand why I have it
#418 [06:16] <World> can you remove it from yourself?
#419 [06:16] <AG_Clinton> Don't really care to.
#420 [06:16] * World prods voxelhead
#420 [06:17] <World> ehh, he's probably 'away'
#421 [06:17] <World> oh well
#422 [06:18] <World> if you need another voice for some reason, Wug's name is in that bag
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#424 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#425 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> !motd
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#428 [06:57] <mib_6qv7ej> hi
#429 [06:58] <mib_6qv7ej> Someone could explain me why I can't connect to minecraft on the website?
#430 [06:59] <Vhozard> Which website?
#431 [06:59] <mib_6qv7ej> the message: Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of minutes.
#432 [06:59] <mib_6qv7ej> the official
#433 [06:59] <mib_6qv7ej> since 2 days I ve got this message
#434 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Occasionally, there's problems with the login server being overloaded.
#435 [07:00] <mib_6qv7ej> ok...
#436 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Usually just waiting a few hours to a few days will solve the problem
#437 [07:00] <Vhozard> Is there an official server O_O
#438 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> No, mib_6qv7ej means the official website, www.minecraft.net
#439 [07:01] <Vhozard> ah, I misread
#440 [07:03] <mib_6qv7ej> yes :)
#441 [07:03] <mib_6qv7ej> bye bye !
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#445 [07:06] <zaaKun> hello, is it possible to make doors open only by pressing a switch?
#446 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> Sure
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#449 [07:10] <zaaKun> is there somewhere a tutorial for that or is it something easy doable? i have a lever next to a door, it opens/closes it but i can open the door manually aswell
#450 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> Then make the door Iron.
#451 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> Wooden doors, you can manually open with your hands
#452 [07:12] <zaaKun> thank you, i'll try it
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#456 [07:29] <zaaKun> okay, now i'm trying to get both doors opened by pressing a switch, they're both connected with redstone wire to that switch, but somehow one door opens when the switch is OFF and the other one when its ON, huh?
#457 [07:30] <lemon-rev> what about hitting a door that is open and then when both doors are shut then test the button ?
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#459 [07:31] <zaaKun> i dit that, i tried closing them both, then connecting the wire and by pressing the switch, one door opens and the other one does nothing, then by pressing it again the door which opened closes and the other one opens
#460 [07:32] <lemon-rev> sounds like its the way the redstone is connected to the doors
#461 [07:33] <lemon-rev> you might have to design it that the button redstone leads into a T connection rather than say -| < that
#462 [07:33] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like it's a double door, the other door needs to be hooked up to a NOT gate
#463 [07:33] <lemon-rev> or like >redstone starts -|-|
#464 [07:33] <lemon-rev> oh,
#465 [07:34] <lemon-rev> so you cant just make a t section and like put 2 redstones like one T then two | at the ends of the T ?
#466 [07:34] <lemon-rev> to make it work as a duel connection ?
#467 [07:36] <zaaKun> yeah it's a double door, i've currently got the wires like this: |_| where the upper ends connect to each door
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#469 [07:36] <lemon-rev> oh, well thats what i was trying to surgest with the red whire connected to the middle of the _
#470 [07:36] <GreyVulpine> With double doors, one door's default state is closed, while the other's is open
#471 [07:37] <GreyVulpine> So you'll need to hook up one door to a NOT gate.
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#473 [07:39] <zaaKun> hm okay, i'll check the wiki to see how that works
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#478 [07:59] <wippler> hi
#479 [07:59] <wippler> i need help
#480 [07:59] <wippler> what is the command for his own server ip?
#481 [07:59] <wippler> i mean, how is the ip
#482 [07:59] <wippler> 1.2.2.0.7, i think some like this
#483 [08:00] <wippler> !server
#484 [08:00] <wippler> !ip
#485 [08:00] <wippler> plsss help
#486 [08:00] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :127.0.0.
#487 [08:00] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :1
#488 [08:01] <wippler> thaanks
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#497 [09:06] <chaoticoz> hello
#498 [09:06] <chaoticoz> does anybody have an idea on how to create some kind of dice with redstone
#499 [09:12] <vcordie> Cahoticoz: explain dice
#500 [09:13] <vcordie> and you'll need to make a mod for that, there are good tutorials on the forums, in addition to a chatroom at #risucraft
#501 [09:14] <chaoticoz> a random number generator
#502 [09:14] <chaoticoz> with redstone
#503 [09:14] <chaoticoz> should be possibl
#504 [09:14] <chaoticoz> e
#505 [09:14] <vcordie> making a random number generator in redstone?
#506 [09:14] <chaoticoz> yes
#507 [09:14] <vcordie> Well, you'd need a way to simulate numbers
#508 [09:15] <vcordie> hook it up to a pulse generator, congradulations.
#509 [09:15] <chaoticoz> ..
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#513 [09:20] <mib_4azbpr> hello, what is the latest version of minecraft?
#514 [09:20] <vcordie> 1.5_01.
#515 [09:21] <vcordie> unless a ninja update happened and I missed it
#516 [09:21] <vcordie> but unlikely, otherwise #risucraft would be a lot more active atm
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#526 [09:53] <tranquillized> hey
#527 [09:53] <tranquillized> ...
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#529 [09:55] <tranquillized> anyone hyere?
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#531 [09:56] <vcordie> ugh, stupid irc client
#532 [09:56] <vcordie> yes, people are here
#533 [09:56] <vcordie> chat doesnt work if you say hi, don't get a response in 10 seconds, and then quit
#534 [09:57] <vcordie> that makes you look like an asshole.
#535 [09:57] <tranquillized> lol xD
#536 [09:57] <tranquillized> i need some help...
#537 [09:57] <tranquillized> When I try to load minecraft it comes up with an error
#538 [09:58] <tranquillized> something about cant load pixels or somethin
#539 [09:58] <vcordie> dont paraphrase, use pastebin and give us the error
#540 [09:58] <vcordie> by the way, don't ask to ask.
#541 [09:59] <tranquillized> sec
#542 [10:04] <tranquillized> i just realised what paste bin is... its not that long of an error
#543 [10:04] <tranquillized> org.iqjgI.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#544 [10:05] <vcordie> try using the latest version of lwjgl
#545 [10:05] <vcordie> different OS's need different lwjgls >.>
#546 [10:06] <vcordie> minecraft uses an older version of lwjgl
#547 [10:06] <tranquillized> kk
#548 [10:09] <vcordie> how much is a block in regards to ram. how much is a chunk. how many blocks are there in a chunk
#549 [10:09] <vcordie> I'm trying to figure out why I don't get MAF errors when playing minecraft
#550 [10:09] <vcordie> despite the fact it leaks more memory then any other game I've played due to slobby use of java garbage disposal
#551 [10:10] <vcordie> but I get maf errors playing civ4 or half life 2 mods ffs, so not sure whats up
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#554 [10:15] <xolotl> tranquillized: What OS?
#555 [10:16] <tranquillized> windows 7
#556 [10:16] <xolotl> tranquillized: Graphics card?
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#558 [10:16] <tranquillized> 9400gt
#559 [10:17] <xolotl> Can you play other games on that machine?
#560 [10:17] <tranquillized> yeah
#561 [10:17] <tranquillized> no problem with anything else
#562 [10:17] <xolotl> Odd
#563 [10:17] <tranquillized> so not graphics drivers I dont think
#564 [10:17] <tranquillized> or dx
#565 [10:17] <Hjalp> Does anyone know how to change e-mail?
#566 [10:18] <xolotl> tranquillized: Well it wouldn't hurt to doublecheck on the graphics driver thing. Maybe post the dxdiag output in a pastebin somewhere, though it wouldn't mean much to me
#567 [10:18] <xolotl> Hjalp: Right now you can't; it's unfortunate.
#568 [10:18] <xolotl> tranquillized: As vcordie suggested, you could try loading in a newer LWJGL
#569 [10:18] <tranquillized> yeah im tryna figure that out atm :P
#570 [10:19] <xolotl> tranquillized: In your .minecraft folder there's a "bin" folder; you'd replace jinput.jar, lwjgl.jar, and lwjgl_util.jar
#571 [10:19] <xolotl> tranquillized: And then replace all the files in "natives"
#572 [10:19] <tranquillized> ok thanks :)
#573 [10:19] <tranquillized> except i dont think i have a minecraft folder yet..
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#575 [10:19] <tranquillized> see i havnt actually played before lol
#576 [10:20] <xolotl> Hm, so you never got the screen where it was downloading things?
#577 [10:20] <tranquillized> nah
#578 [10:20] <tranquillized> pops up with minescape
#579 [10:20] <tranquillized> then i get the error
#580 [10:20] <xolotl> Minescape?
#581 [10:20] <tranquillized> minecraft o.o xD
#582 [10:20] <tranquillized> lol
#583 [10:21] <xolotl> heh
#584 [10:21] <xolotl> Try typing "%appdata%" into windows explorer; that might get you to where .minecraft should be
#585 [10:22] <tranquillized> yup, found it but its an empty folder haha
#586 [10:22] <vcordie> you havent downloaded it then
#587 [10:22] <vcordie> no wonder you are getting an error
#588 [10:22] <tranquillized> trying graphics drivers update
#589 [10:22] <tranquillized> im tryna play the free version, isnt that just browser?
#590 [10:22] <xolotl> vcordie: Well it is a *bit* odd; I thought that that error came from LWJGL
#591 [10:23] <vcordie> oh god, a 9400gt?
#592 [10:23] <vcordie> Do not update your drivers
#593 [10:23] <vcordie> I repeat, do not update your drivers
#594 [10:23] <vcordie> nvida failed so hard with the newest drivers for the entire gt serious
#595 [10:23] <xolotl> tranquillized: The free version is just in the browser, yes, but it's a completely different game
#596 [10:23] <tranquillized> ok lol.
#597 [10:23] <tranquillized> o.o so cant play actually minecraft without paying?
#598 [10:23] <xolotl> tranquillized: Called "Classic." Beta is very different.
#599 [10:23] <xolotl> tranquillized: There's a demo released by PC Gamer which will let you play for 90 minutes (windows only)
#600 [10:23] <xolotl> tranquillized: But otherwise yeah, you need to pay.
#601 [10:24] <tranquillized> :)
#602 [10:24] <tranquillized> no worries, thanks
#603 [10:24] <vcordie> you havent paid yet? facepalm
#604 [10:24] <vcordie> newest nvida drivers for the gt series makes them overheat
#605 [10:24] <tranquillized> oh dear... lucky I canceled lol
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#607 [10:25] <tranquillized> and nah havnt paid.. heard it was a free game from a friend lol so just checkin it out
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#611 [10:29] <tranquillized> got tthe demo still gettin same error and no app data
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#613 [10:32] <tranquillized> http://pastebin.com/3sVHneHJ
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#615 [10:33] <Dee> Is there any one online willing to help me with an issue I have where minecraft keeps crashing (Black screan with no error report)?
#616 [10:34] <vcordie> use this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23286303/minecrafterrortest.bat
#617 [10:34] <xolotl> tranquillized: Probably the only thing to try is the driver update, honestly.
#618 [10:34] <xolotl> tranquillized: I guess just keep an eye on the GPU temp, etc
#619 [10:34] <tranquillized> alright no worries.
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#621 [10:34] <Dee> Vcordie, can I ask what is it first?
#622 [10:35] <vcordie> run it, it will run minecraft and print any errors that happen bheind the scene in the window
#623 [10:35] <vcordie> then you can copy that post it to pastebin and paste it here
#624 [10:35] <vcordie> Its from the modding channel
#625 [10:35] <vcordie> if you dont trust it, open it up with notepad.
#626 [10:35] <Dee> Ah, thanks.
#627 [10:35] <vcordie> its harmless
#628 [10:35] <Dee> Meh, just needed to make sure.
#629 [10:36] <xolotl> Dee: Yeah, it's fine
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#631 [10:40] <Thunder1> i am looking for a mod which shows me [4 free] signs on a server
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#633 [10:41] <vcordie> What do you mean? and this room doesnt support modding
#634 [10:41] <vcordie> go to #risucraft
#635 [10:42] <Thunder1> k thx
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#641 [10:48] <sukosevato> hey
#642 [10:49] <sukosevato> anyone here with some technical know how about servers?
#643 [10:51] <sukosevato> nobody active in this channel? :O
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#645 [10:52] <sukosevato> maybe nobody's answering because they fear i'm yet another kid that wants to run his own server and has no clue? Well that's not really the case :O I'm running a 20 slot server on my own dedicated machine at a 100mbit connection. Its on a linux OS. I have a few questions regarding java, which one runs minecraft best. So nobody is here really with a bit of knowledge about those things?
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#648 [10:59] <shapeshifter_ex> hey guys
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#653 [11:16] <Dee> Quick question, there isn't a way to run "minecrafterrortest" while playing online is there? Tested minecraft and single players seems to be working finefor now. But just tested SMP and that keeps crashing.
#654 [11:17] <_303> Dee: you can just run the linux/other launcher jar in the command line instead
#655 [11:17] <_303> lets you login and all
#656 [11:17] <Dee> ah thanks
#657 [11:18] <_303> ??< index
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#661 [11:21] <Aconitin> hey - can anyone tell me a good + cheap minecraft server hoster (in germany) please?
#662 [11:23] <g> Incoming bot, it seems to have died again
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#664 [11:24] <McPlusPlus> [mcpp-ircbot] Changeset [31]: Updated ignore list, modes (gdude2002) - http://is.gd/moeazH
#665 [11:24] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] MinecraftCon 2011 in Vegas? (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/psejo8
#666 [11:24] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Achtung! Uwaga! Attention! (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/Xxfrwj
#667 [11:24] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.5 (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/WGSWQF
#668 [11:24] <g> Okay
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#670 [11:24] <g> That is all :P
#671 [11:25] <JanOechsler> hey there. is it anyhow possible to give someone birch or similar blocks with an additional data value using a vanilla server?
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#673 [11:26] <Thunder2> i get: bad login
#674 [11:26] <Thunder2> wtf
#675 [11:26] <Thunder2> what could this be
#676 [11:26] <g> What username?
#677 [11:29] <JanOechsler> i just downloaded the server from the normal minecraft.net webpage (so i think its vanilla)
#678 [11:29] <g> Yeah, that's vanilla
#679 [11:29] <g> I honestly don't know
#680 [11:29] <g> Logs do have a data value
#681 [11:29] <g> but I don't know how you'd set it
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#683 [11:30] <JanOechsler> hm i tried (as writen in the wiki) /give Name 17:2 count
#684 [11:30] <JanOechsler> but it said unknown id 17:2
#685 [11:30] <JanOechsler> [INFO] There's no item with id 17:2
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#687 [11:31] <Keltinray> afaik, the standard /give command doesn't support the added info
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#689 [11:31] <Keltinray> I think you would need CraftBukkit for that
#690 [11:32] <bezaban> yeah. pretty sure that only works with bukkit
#691 [11:33] <bezaban> drawback being that it takes a while for a new bukkit after vanilla is released.
#692 [11:33] <bezaban> well. last was only a few days
#693 [11:34] <Keltinray> Minor issue, imo.
#694 [11:34] <bezaban> indeed
#695 [11:34] <Keltinray> Craftbukkit tends to patch up the occasional bug in the vanilla along the way
#696 [11:35] <bezaban> yeah. I've been very happy. Plugin support is great too
#697 [11:35] <bezaban> but we'll see once mod support goes official
#698 [11:35] <Keltinray> s/once/if/;
#699 [11:35] <bezaban> hehe
#700 [11:35] <Keltinray> If he does make a modding-API, it could either be great, or horrible.
#701 [11:37] <AG_Scott> I doubt there will be a mod API for the server.
#702 [11:37] <AG_Scott> They were discussing using bukkit as the official API.
#703 [11:37] <Keltinray> If there will be one, it'll probably be bukkit
#704 [11:37] <bezaban> I'll probably stick with it then
#705 [11:37] <bezaban> whats hMod like?
#706 [11:38] <Keltinray> afaik, it's kinda...
#707 [11:38] <Keltinray> dead
#708 [11:39] <bezaban> hmm yeah. cant find much recent info on it
#709 [11:39] <AG_Scott> hMod is dead. There are some forks though.
#710 [11:40] <AG_Scott> I don't really see the point of forking it though. It's been hacked to work so many times...
#711 [11:40] <bezaban> heh. everything is kind of in that state now ;)
#712 [11:41] <bezaban> just finished setting up dynmap with apache
#713 [11:41] <bezaban> which reminds me, should update the wiki
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#722 [12:07] <aikaramba> so, what do you do
#723 [12:07] <aikaramba> like craft mine?
#724 [12:08] <chaoticoz> how to use worldedits .//flip?
#725 [12:08] <chaoticoz> whats the argument
#726 [12:08] <chaoticoz> direction
#727 [12:08] <xolotl> Keltinray: There's probably not going to be an "official" API anymore; I guess mod authors will be able to just sign up to get access to the source
#728 [12:09] <xolotl> (I assume that means that eventually the classfiles won't come obfuscated anymore, but we'll see)
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#734 [12:24] <qster> hi all
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#736 [12:25] <qster> question.. is it possible to make 2 teleports in the real world and use the nether with two ports.. but they're linked? kind of thing... so I can travel fast to specific point in the real world quickly
#737 [12:27] <xolotl> qster: If you want Portals to work any differently than they already do, you'd need a mod
#738 [12:28] <xolotl> Though I'm not quite sure what you're asking about
#739 [12:28] <zaaKun> he wants to teleport from 1 point to another in the REAL world
#740 [12:28] <qster> that's it
#741 [12:29] <xolotl> Well, I still stand by what I said.
#742 [12:29] <qster> isn't it runecraft i need? and if so can I install that for single player?
#743 [12:29] <aikaramba> whoa
#744 [12:30] <xolotl> qster: I think that includes some kind of teleportation thing, yes. Try #risucraft for client mod support
#745 [12:30] <qster> ok thanks
#746 [12:32] <oldtopman> qster: If you are looking for runecraft, try #runecraft IIRC
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#748 [12:34] <vcordie> Back
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#751 [12:41] <mudpit> hello all
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#753 [12:41] <mudpit> can anyone answer my questions?
#754 [12:42] <aikaramba> hey
#755 [12:42] <aikaramba> i just heard a jet plane in mc
#756 [12:42] <aikaramba> is that possible?
#757 [12:42] <mudpit> no
#758 [12:42] <vcordie> yes.
#759 [12:42] <aikaramba> o_0
#760 [12:42] <aikaramba> once in nether
#761 [12:42] <vcordie> But there currently is not a mod for it
#762 [12:42] <bokaholic> o.o
#763 [12:42] <mudpit> will someone help me please
#764 [12:42] <aikaramba> i heard a sound
#765 [12:42] <aikaramba> i never heard before
#766 [12:42] <_303> ?? ask
#767 [12:42] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#768 [12:42] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#769 [12:42] <aikaramba> like someone screeming in pain
#770 [12:43] <aikaramba> not the moaning of gasts
#771 [12:43] <vcordie> aikarabma: that is a ambient noise.
#772 [12:43] <aikaramba> more like pig being squished
#773 [12:43] <aikaramba> but ambient sounds are constant
#774 [12:43] <aikaramba> scream was singla and only heard it once
#775 [12:43] <aikaramba> very loud
#776 [12:43] <aikaramba> shar bricks
#777 [12:43] <aikaramba> never heard it again
#778 [12:44] <xales> mudpit: No. Nobody can answer your question unless you actually say what it is.
#779 [12:45] <mudpit> i bought minecraft about 30 hours ago but every time i try to connect to a server i get the message "connection timed out" and i cant join i thought that it just takes time but it has been 30h and i rely wanna connect please help
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#781 [12:46] <xales> mudpit: "Connection timed out" is almost always a problem with the server you are trying to connect to, or you just aren't entering it's IP correctly
#782 [12:47] <xolotl> mudpit: If you wanted to try on my server, PM me with your minecraft username and I could temporarily whitelist you
#783 [12:47] <mudpit> oh ok
#784 [12:48] <aikaramba> aa lol
#785 [12:48] <aikaramba> it was scream4
#786 [12:48] <aikaramba> in ghast folder
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#789 [13:00] <ALT3RNAT1V3> Any mod that allows you to change the spawn point?
#790 [13:01] <xolotl> ALT3RNAT1V3: I'm sure there are some, though it might be easier to just download MCEdit and use that to reset the spawn point
#791 [13:02] <ALT3RNAT1V3> i can do that but it creates an amount of hassle
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#794 [13:06] <_303> ALT3RNAT1V3: single player commands mod: /setspawn x y z
#795 [13:07] <_303> if no x y z given, current position
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#811 [13:51] <Saad> Anyone having issues with Fatal Error 4 when updating?
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#813 [13:58] <dopeghoti> morning, Zw
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#815 [13:59] <Fear> i want a decent world geesh lol
#816 [14:00] <dopeghoti> That's why many people go into politics. Sadly, they generally get corrpted by all the giant bags of cash.
#817 [14:01] <Fear> no for my minecraft
#818 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> All worlds I have seen have a pretty high awesomeness quotient.
#819 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> If you don't like where you start, just take a stroll 'till you find a better area, and make yourself a bed.
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#825 [14:24] * Kealper opens up a fresh bag of tortilla chips
#825 [14:24] * g yoinks Kealper's tortilla chips
#825 [14:24] <g> >:D
#826 [14:24] * Captain-Lightning yoinks g
#826 [14:25] <Kealper> with how much nachos i eat on a daily basis, i'd fit right in around Mexico lol
#827 [14:25] <g> Oh, I forgot
#828 [14:25] <g> ~stfu
#829 [14:25] * Kealper Captain-Lightning's g
#829 [14:25] <Captain-Lightning> haha what
#830 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> vox, give chips to everyone
#831 [14:25] <VoxelHead> Drool: Debate.. now! OR SUFFER!
#832 [14:25] * VoxelHead gives chips to everyone
#832 [14:25] <Captain-Lightning> :D
#833 [14:25] <VoxelHead> :o)
#834 [14:25] <Captain-Lightning> I love you VoxelHead
#835 [14:25] <VoxelHead> :*
#836 [14:25] <Captain-Lightning> <3
#837 [14:26] * Vhozard quickly eats all the chips
#837 [14:26] <Vhozard> now im fat :(
#838 [14:26] <Kealper> they were soy chips!
#839 [14:27] <VoxelHead> Did I fail to mention that those were seasoned with potassium cyanide?
#840 [14:27] * Kealper is suddenly glad he has his own fresh bag of chips
#840 [14:27] * Vhozard dies
#840 [14:28] <VoxelHead> whoops, I meant salt. Forgot to carry the eleventeen.
#841 [14:28] <Vhozard> wait, lemme install the heroic death plugin
#842 [14:28] <Kealper> lol
#843 [14:28] * Vhozard dies from potassium cyanide poisoning
#843 [14:28] <Vhozard> :)
#844 [14:28] <vcordie> >.>
#845 [14:28] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#846 [14:29] <Vhozard> minecraft humour :o
#847 [14:29] <vcordie> I understand the humor
#848 [14:29] <vcordie> I don't know why its here
#849 [14:29] <DopeGhoti> where else would it be?
#850 [14:29] <vcordie> #minecrafthelp has set mode srz business
#851 [14:29] <Vhozard> !topic
#852 [14:29] <vcordie> >.>
#853 [14:29] <Vhozard> ...
#854 [14:29] <vcordie> no wait
#855 [14:29] <vcordie> I screwed that up
#856 [14:29] <Vhozard> the topic ?
#857 [14:30] <Vhozard> or your social life
#858 [14:30] <Vhozard> :/
#859 [14:30] <DopeGhoti> the topic looks fine to me
#860 [14:30] <Kealper> vcordie: actually, it has set modes +Ccgnt
#861 [14:30] <vcordie> vhozard, I was joking
#862 [14:30] <vcordie> it was an irc joke.
#863 [14:30] <vcordie> and a meme
#864 [14:30] <vcordie> seriou---bah, forget it
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#866 [14:30] <Kealper> srs bsns <-- FTFY
#867 [14:30] <Kealper> bah
#868 [14:31] <Vhozard> he left
#869 [14:31] <DopeGhoti> Interesting /quit message for one who just abbreviated 'serious' as 'srz'
#870 [14:31] <Kealper> ^
#871 [14:31] <Vhozard> now i cant tell him i wasnt being srs...
#872 [14:31] <Vhozard> this is interwebz
#873 [14:31] <Vhozard> who cares anyway
#874 [14:32] <Kealper> him, apprently
#875 [14:32] <Kealper> apparently* bah
#876 [14:32] <Kealper> and i've run out of salsa...drat
#877 [14:32] <Vhozard> grammer nazi isnt here
#878 [14:32] <Vhozard> :)
#879 [14:32] <VoxelHead> :-)
#880 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> 'grammar'.
#881 [14:32] <Vhozard> ...
#882 [14:32] <aetherian> wahaha
#883 [14:33] <VoxelHead> rise up and use your revolting limbs to escape this prison
#884 [14:33] <Kealper> i was waiting for dope to do that lol
#885 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: that's what cheese is for.
#886 [14:33] <Vhozard> but im a convicted pedophile
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#888 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> chaoticoz: surely you must have some convictions.
#889 [14:33] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i would have to heat it up first :/
#890 [14:33] <Vhozard> escaping wouldnt be good for the children :/
#891 [14:34] <Vhozard> you know
#892 [14:34] <Vhozard> they do have internet in pedojail
#893 [14:34] <Kealper> ....TIL?
#894 [14:34] <Vhozard> til?
#895 [14:34] <chaoticoz> DopeGhoti, um what
#896 [14:34] <chaoticoz> why
#897 [14:34] <Kealper> Today I Learned
#898 [14:35] <Vhozard> thats a retarded abbrevation
#899 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> chaoticoz: whom?
#900 [14:35] <Kealper> Vhozard: tell that to the hivemind that is reddit
#901 [14:35] <Vhozard> fuck reddit
#902 [14:35] <Kealper> language, please
#903 [14:36] <Vhozard> everytime I go to it, I end up @ 2am in the night wondering why i didnt do any work
#904 [14:36] <Kealper> lol
#905 [14:36] <chaoticoz> what the hell are you talking about DopeGhoti
#906 [14:36] <chaoticoz> :o
#907 [14:36] <g> 2am in the night
#908 [14:36] <g> lol
#909 [14:36] <VoxelHead> %percent@*~%percent$$~
#910 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: 2AM is in the morning. Hence 'AM'.
#911 [14:36] <Kealper> what VoxelHead said
#912 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> chaoticoz: whatever comes to mind.
#913 [14:36] <Vhozard> i call 2 am night :)
#914 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> I'll call you Jane then, by the same token.
#915 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> chaoticoz: TTANTS: convictions, convictions.
#916 [14:38] <Kealper> wut
#917 [14:38] <chaoticoz> ttants?
#918 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> Things That Are Not The Same
#919 [14:38] <chaoticoz> i still dont get what you are talking about
#920 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> one is a set of beliefs; the other is a criminal record.
#921 [14:39] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: hmm, it can be called night too
#922 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> Oh English, you're so silly.
#923 [14:39] <chaoticoz> so and what do i have and why
#924 [14:39] <Vhozard> morning is just more specifc
#925 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> Jane: Not if you want to be accurate.
#926 [14:39] <Vhozard> jane ?
#927 [14:39] * DopeGhoti points up.
#927 [14:40] <Kealper> 14:36:44 <Vhozard> i call 2 am night :)
#928 [14:40] <Kealper> 14:36:59 <@DopeGhoti> I'll call you Jane then, by the same token.
#929 [14:40] <Vhozard> wat
#930 [14:40] <Vhozard> oh, danm, you internet
#931 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: There's an aitch in 'what'.
#932 [14:40] <Vhozard> y u so srs
#933 [14:40] <Kealper> if he wasn't, he wouldn't be DopeGhoti
#934 [14:40] <DopeGhoti> ^
#935 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> wait, I'm not SRS.
#936 [14:41] * DopeGhoti is not a seat belt!
#936 [14:41] <Captain-Lightning> I think you typo'd, DopeGhoti is SARS.
#937 [14:41] <Vhozard> well, thank you DopeGhoti
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#939 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> Jane: Pleased to be of service.
#940 [14:41] <Vhozard> now I know im not the most pathetic person on planet earth :)
#941 [14:42] <Kealper> such hatred
#942 [14:42] <aikaramba> lol, try seed: "seed" and go to -137/81/-11
#943 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> Jane: You hadn't heard of the previous US President? He's pretty pathetic.
#944 [14:42] <Kealper> aikaramba: challenge accepted
#945 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> aikaramba: is there a chestful of seeds there?
#946 [14:42] <aikaramba> nay
#947 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> not impressed.
#948 [14:42] <aikaramba> just some randomness
#949 [14:42] <Jane> Bush wasnt pathetic
#950 [14:42] <Jane> just dumb
#951 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: What's with the nickspam?
#952 [14:43] <VoxelHead> a snowboard
#953 [14:43] <Jane> oh god
#954 [14:43] <Vhozard> ...
#955 [14:43] <aikaramba> Suddenly pumpkins
#956 [14:44] <Vhozard> hmm
#957 [14:44] <Kealper> that's a lot of pumpkins
#958 [14:44] <Vhozard> "pumpkins" --> "pumps" --> "women" --> "hardcore sex"
#959 [14:44] <aikaramba> now explain kins
#960 [14:44] <Kealper> TTANTS: pumpkins, sex
#961 [14:44] <Vhozard> amazing how that happens in a matter of a second ^
#962 [14:44] <aikaramba> sex?
#963 [14:44] <aikaramba> thats a bad sex
#964 [14:45] <Vhozard> sex, yeah, thats something you do with the oppiste gender and which is generally considered enjoyable
#965 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> If you are pumping your kin, you have _serious_ problems, and need professional psychological assistance posthaste.
#966 [14:45] <Kealper> ^
#967 [14:45] <Vhozard> like playing Minecraft multiplayer, only with just 2 people
#968 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: "with the opposite gender"? I know many people to whom that is not part of the criteria.
#969 [14:46] <aikaramba> pumping...pumpkin
#970 [14:46] * aikaramba feels that this is not going to end good
#970 [14:46] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: forgot to add generally
#971 [14:47] <Vhozard> you rlly are srs bns :o
#972 [14:47] * Vhozard uses plugin "check.for.errors.before.posting-irssi"
#972 [14:47] <Vhozard> so, im prepared now
#973 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> This is IRC, not Twitter, and you (probably) have a full-sized keyboard. Please use complete sentences, if not complete words.
#974 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> also, "I'm".
#975 [14:48] <Vhozard> oh shi=
#976 [14:48] <Vhozard> -
#977 [14:48] <Vhozard> yeah, DopeGhoti, imagine if someone didnt care @ the innerwebs
#978 [14:48] <Vhozard> what would the world come to :O
#979 [14:48] <Kealper> ACLU......y u no remember my information from the last petition i signed...
#980 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> Well, it will be coming to an end, whether through Sol becoming a red giant, or the entropic heat-death of the universe, but that's largely irrelevant right now.
#981 [14:49] <aikaramba> DopeGhoti, what makes u so sure?
#982 [14:50] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: you don't need a comma between giant and or
#983 [14:50] <Vhozard> pwnd
#984 [14:50] <Vhozard> :D
#985 [14:50] <Kealper> because that's just how the universe works :/
#986 [14:50] <VoxelHead> -_-
#987 [14:50] <oldtopman> Vhozard: I do reccomend listening to DopeGhoti's advice. He is an op and runs a tight ship here.
#988 [14:50] <aikaramba> like you were some sort of astrophysicist
#989 [14:50] <aikaramba> to know how the universe works
#990 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> Actually, a comma preceding 'or' or 'and' at the end of a list is in fact syntactically correct.
#991 [14:50] <aikaramba> anyone can make such claims
#992 [14:51] <DopeGhoti> aikaramba: Make such claims? Sure. Back them up? Not so much. (:
#993 [14:51] <Vhozard> guys
#994 [14:51] <aikaramba> yeah baby?
#995 [14:51] <Vhozard> we all know God created the earth
#996 [14:51] <Vhozard> theres nothing to debate about
#997 [14:51] <aikaramba> we dont know
#998 [14:51] <Vhozard> Yes we do
#999 [14:51] <aikaramba> its was calleds something else
#1000 [14:51] <Kealper> i was literally JUST typing "so since i can imagine this turning into a religious debate, let's stop now"
#1001 [14:52] <Kealper> so
#1002 [14:52] <relsqui> Kealper: lol
#1003 [14:52] <aikaramba> :D
#1004 [14:52] <Vhozard> Kealper :D
#1005 [14:52] <aikaramba> we dont know if he created specifically earth
#1006 [14:52] <aikaramba> i think god just created
#1007 [14:52] <Vhozard> but really, there is nothing to debate about
#1008 [14:52] <aikaramba> but at what level exactly
#1009 [14:52] <Kealper> and that was a bit of a humorous way to say "i'm not letting religion be discussed in here"
#1010 [14:52] <aikaramba> it cannot be known
#1011 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> "Know"? I doubt it
#1012 [14:53] <Vhozard> Kealper: wow, internet censoring :(
#1013 [14:53] <Kealper> so...no religious (or lack there-of) talks in here
#1014 [14:53] <aikaramba> its not religion
#1015 [14:53] <aikaramba> existencialism talk
#1016 [14:53] <aikaramba> :D
#1017 [14:53] <Kealper> Vhozard: no, it's a touchy subject that ALWAYS leads to fighting
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#1019 [14:53] <aikaramba> touchy
#1020 [14:53] <Vhozard> fighting?
#1021 [14:53] <aikaramba> like the song by aha?
#1022 [14:53] <Vhozard> this is irc
#1023 [14:53] <VoxelHead> Bye trekkie1701c.
#1024 [14:53] <Vhozard> the worst fighting we can do is saying "youre a meany!"
#1025 [14:53] <Kealper> if you don't know what i'm talking about, you've obviously never been in a large irc channel for long
#1026 [14:54] <xolotl> Vhozard: Ops set the rules, that's how it is. Just deal with it
#1027 [14:54] <aikaramba> :D
#1028 [14:54] <Vhozard> xolotl: no need to be angry
#1029 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> I don't mind having this debate so loong as we can remain civil
#1030 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> (and stop if anything on-topic crops up)
#1031 [14:54] <Vhozard> Im civil :D
#1032 [14:54] <aikaramba> everything goes fine as long as someone doesnt start to take things too seriously
#1033 [14:54] <Vhozard> yeah, thats a bit of a problem with Atheists
#1034 [14:55] <aikaramba> wow
#1035 [14:55] <aikaramba> tron song on the radio
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#1037 [14:55] <Kealper> Vhozard: you're walking a very thin line
#1038 [14:55] * aikaramba jizzes
#1038 [14:55] * DopeGhoti is an atheist agnostic pragmatist.
#1038 [14:55] <Kealper> ^
#1039 [14:55] <Vhozard> damn, i forgot
#1040 [14:55] <Vhozard> what did agnost mean ?
#1041 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> but am happy to have discuttions
#1042 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> er, discussions
#1043 [14:55] <aikaramba> im just happy
#1044 [14:55] <aikaramba> unconditionaly
#1045 [14:55] <aikaramba> because of the tron song
#1046 [14:55] <DopeGhoti> hold a moment, have to do some work at work for a bit (:
#1047 [14:56] <Vhozard> youre at work o_O
#1048 [14:56] <Kealper> the whole "my religion (or lack there-of) is better than your religion (or lack there-of)" is exactly why i don't let these sorts of things go on...it's just easiest on all of us :/
#1049 [14:56] <aikaramba> but the interesting thing
#1050 [14:56] <aikaramba> that often unreligious people
#1051 [14:56] <aikaramba> are very true believers
#1052 [14:56] <xolotl> Yeah, let's just keep that kind of thing in #minecraft where it's easier to ignore en masse
#1053 [14:56] <aikaramba> they just dont chase after the label
#1054 [14:56] <Kealper> ^
#1055 [14:56] <Vhozard> oh, I dont think my religion is better than your lack there off
#1056 [14:57] * xolotl likes that this channel is largely on-topic
#1056 [14:57] <aikaramba> im blowing tnt's
#1057 [14:57] <Vhozard> well, i havent seen anyone ask for help yet :)
#1058 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> Jane: My atehist agnostic pragmatism breaks down as follows: I do not happen to believe in any omnipotent or omnescient beings, but I also do not believe there is proof either way with regards to any potential such beings, and, if presented with any such proof, am willing to concede their existence.
#1059 [14:57] <Kealper> ^
#1060 [14:58] <Vhozard> yeah, most atheists are like that
#1061 [14:58] <aikaramba> DopeGhoti, its a long talk
#1062 [14:58] <aikaramba> and needs tea
#1063 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> mmm, tea
#1064 [14:58] <Kealper> tea sounds....decent
#1065 [14:58] * Vhozard has cola :P
#1065 [14:58] <aikaramba> aaa shi,....
#1066 [14:58] <aikaramba> TNT's went of premature
#1067 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> I am also not a militant atheist and, while happy to engage in discourse, don't get all Bill Mahr about it.
#1068 [14:59] <Vhozard> The funny thing in that is, people have very different opinions on what to call "proof"
#1069 [14:59] * Vhozard looks up Mahr
#1069 [14:59] <aikaramba> i always forget that the tnts cannot be removed
#1070 [14:59] <Vhozard> Is it Bill Maher ?
#1071 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> (Bill Mahr calls anyone who is at all religious morons, for example)
#1072 [15:00] <Vhozard> yeah, thats not very nice of him
#1073 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> s/morons/a moron/
#1074 [15:00] <aikaramba> i view religons as some form of phylosophy
#1075 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> agreed
#1076 [15:00] <Vhozard> but then again, I dont watch american tv
#1077 [15:00] <aikaramba> because most of them make a great ammount of sense
#1078 [15:00] <Vhozard> :)
#1079 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: philosophy, spirituality
#1080 [15:00] <VoxelHead> =]
#1081 [15:01] <Vhozard> I think religion is a great way to guide ones life and keep hopes high
#1082 [15:01] <aikaramba> yup
#1083 [15:01] <Vhozard> on the other hand, there is a group who takes it too far
#1084 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> potentially
#1085 [15:01] <Vhozard> for example muslim extremists
#1086 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> or Xian extremists.
#1087 [15:02] <Vhozard> or christian
#1088 [15:02] * Kealper thinks that this should stray away from specific topics and back to something a bit less..."hot"
#1088 [15:02] <xolotl> Seriously, I would love for this conversation to be not taking place in here
#1089 [15:02] <aikaramba> Kealper, i agree
#1090 [15:02] <Vhozard> :(
#1091 [15:02] <aikaramba> :D
#1092 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Maher does have one thing right: fundamentalists should concentrate more on the 'fun' and less on the 'mental'.
#1093 [15:02] <aikaramba> so what was it again
#1094 [15:02] <aikaramba> sex?
#1095 [15:02] <aikaramba> pumpkins
#1096 [15:02] <Vhozard> all the other irc-chans im in post cp pics and w/e
#1097 [15:02] <Vhozard> cant talk seriously there :(
#1098 [15:03] <aikaramba> what's w/e?
#1099 [15:03] <Vhozard> What ever
#1100 [15:03] <aikaramba> what king of chans youre visiting i must ask...
#1101 [15:03] <aikaramba> or better not ask
#1102 [15:03] <Vhozard> yeah
#1103 [15:03] * DopeGhoti -> #theology
#1103 [15:03] <Kealper> also, keep the discussion of illegal things to a minimum :/
#1104 [15:03] <Vhozard> computer pics is illegal?
#1105 [15:03] <Vhozard> what
#1106 [15:03] <Kealper> (that one is written right into the channel rules)
#1107 [15:04] * DopeGhoti has many pictures of hot, expensive-looking fully-loaded racks which are quite legal.
#1107 [15:04] <Vhozard> yeah
#1108 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> mostly 42U
#1109 [15:04] <Kealper> i'd totally love to get my hands on some of those
#1110 [15:04] <Vhozard> ^
#1111 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> which can still be taken delightfully out-of-context.
#1112 [15:04] <Kealper> 42U is pretty huge >.>
#1113 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> some of them are adorned with many blades
#1114 [15:05] <Vhozard> when I get the money, Ill get a cisco CRS-3
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#1116 [15:05] <Kealper> yeah, but it's only going to look horrible to people who don't realize you are talking about rack-mount servers lol...
#1117 [15:05] <Vhozard> 322 terabit/s routing system :)
#1118 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> Jane: Is that the clorified router/firewall that's the size of a mini-fridge?
#1119 [15:05] <DopeGhoti> er, glorified*
#1120 [15:05] <Vhozard> http://bradreese.com/images/cisco-crs-3.jpg
#1121 [15:06] <Vhozard> my fridge is smaller
#1122 [15:06] <Vhozard> xD
#1123 [15:06] <Kealper> that is complete overkill
#1124 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> also off-topic: Woot-off today! \o/
#1125 [15:06] <Vhozard> 322 terabit overkill for a homeserver ?
#1126 [15:06] <Vhozard> dont think so
#1127 [15:06] <Morrolan> Kealper: Bot is working now. And I understand what you meant with it being unbelievable how much data it receives. Oo
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#1129 [15:07] <Kealper> Morrolan: isn't it just stupid how much it is? and CONSTANTLY too....lol
#1130 [15:07] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Since polls are fun, here's another one! (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/0tsxDq
#1131 [15:07] <Vhozard> irc bot ?
#1132 [15:07] <Morrolan> Vhozard: Minecraftbot
#1133 [15:07] <Vhozard> Ive always wanted to set up one for my server
#1134 [15:07] <Kealper> irc bots are child's play in comparison :o
#1135 [15:07] <Vhozard> what is a minecraftbot?
#1136 [15:07] <g> I've written a hacky IRC <-> minecraft classic bridge bot
#1137 [15:07] <g> :P
#1138 [15:07] <Morrolan> Kealper: Yeah, the textfield containing infos about received packets is just flying by.
#1139 [15:07] <DopeGhoti> a bot for minecraft, presumably.
#1140 [15:08] <Vhozard> for in-game ?
#1141 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> g: I threw one together from scratch too. Works rather well.
#1142 [15:08] <Morrolan> Vhozard: Yep.
#1143 [15:08] <g> Mine was really too hackish
#1144 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> mmm, Python
#1145 [15:08] <g> I used Python too
#1146 [15:08] <g> but I knocked mine up in like an hour
#1147 [15:08] <Vhozard> ah, Morrolan
#1148 [15:08] * Kealper didn't use Python
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#1149 [15:08] <Morrolan> Hmph, endofstream, invalidbytelength. Back to the code I guess.
#1150 [15:09] <Vhozard> Kealper: i dont think the religion-discussion got out of hand btw ;)
#1151 [15:09] <Kealper> Vhozard: because i didn't let it get out of hand
#1152 [15:09] <Vhozard> haha, sure :P
#1153 [15:09] <VoxelHead> when the repairs are done i shall hunt down that evil death bee.
#1154 [15:09] <Morrolan> Vox, you're back?
#1155 [15:09] <VoxelHead> Yes.
#1156 [15:09] * VoxelHead never left.
#1156 [15:10] <Morrolan> Ah, good to know. :)
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#1158 [15:10] <Kealper> i can't get mine to edit sign text correctly though....
#1159 [15:11] <Vhozard> may I ask what the purpose is of such a bot ?
#1160 [15:11] <Kealper> learning
#1161 [15:11] <Morrolan> ^
#1162 [15:11] <Vhozard> learning what?
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#1164 [15:11] <Kealper> how Minecraft works
#1165 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: or utility. For example, my MC server is largely for a specific comminity which has an IRC channel
#1166 [15:11] <Kealper> what makes it "tick"
#1167 [15:11] <Vhozard> my core i3
#1168 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> the bot allows people in the channel to talk with people in the server
#1169 [15:12] <Vhozard> yeah, I want that too
#1170 [15:12] <Vhozard> but thats not a builderbot
#1171 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> (it also allows people to look up item or block codes for fixing bugs)
#1172 [15:12] * xolotl keeps on meaning to write some bots to aid in machinima or the like
#1172 [15:12] <Morrolan> Yea, once it's stable I'll add some functions to it, like a .lastseen or similar.
#1173 [15:13] <Vhozard> on the subject of servers, how much ram would it take to max out a 9mpbs upload ?
#1174 [15:13] <Kealper> Morrolan: are you actually parsing though every packet to get the ones you actually care for?
#1175 [15:13] <Morrolan> Kealper: Uhu. Didn't really knew how to get rid of the packets I don't care for waiting in the pipeline.
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#1178 [15:14] <Morrolan> Though there aren't that many I don't have use for.
#1179 [15:14] <Kealper> that's one thing that made me kinda lose interest, is that i'd have to parse though the entirety of the data from the server to get stuff like chat packets out...since you can't tell the lenght of a packet without parsing it :/
#1180 [15:14] <Vhozard> http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/ gives me a RAM of 3600MB to max out 9mpbs
#1181 [15:14] <Morrolan> Kealper: Yep.
#1182 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: why not run the server in a wrapper and just monitor the MC console.
#1183 [15:14] <Vhozard> it seems a bit low, as I easily get 2gb ram usage with only a few players
#1184 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> mmm, AF_UNIX Sockets.
#1185 [15:15] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: my wrapper does this
#1186 [15:15] <Morrolan> It'd be much easier if it just send the length of the packet as well.
#1187 [15:15] * Vhozard notices how this is too difficult for him to understand :(
#1187 [15:15] <Kealper> i just mean for poking at the protocol and learning stuff
#1188 [15:16] <Morrolan> Kealper: Though, most of the parsing was just alt-tabbing and copy-pasting between the protocol documentation and code.
#1189 [15:16] <Kealper> but yet again, any time i do stuff with binary data, i never put the packet length in my packets either...so...i don't have much room to talk lol
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#1192 [15:18] <aikaramba> what server is more hardware demanding
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#1194 [15:18] <aikaramba> smp or classic?
#1195 [15:18] <Morrolan> Kealper: What language did you write your bot in, actually?
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#1197 [15:18] <Morrolan> aikaramba: SMP.
#1198 [15:18] <Kealper> Morrolan: AutoIt
#1199 [15:18] <Morrolan> Ah, never used it.
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#1201 [15:19] <Kealper> don't....half of the time you are working with it, you are trying to tell zealots that it's not a "let's move the mouse around while doing this crap" automation language
#1202 [15:19] <Kealper> anti-zealots, i should say....
#1203 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Zealots of another faith, perhaps?
#1204 [15:20] <Morrolan> ^^
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#1206 [15:20] <VoxelHead> :)
#1207 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> I bear AutoIT^Ht no ill will, I just don't see the utility for my use-cases, so can't be arsed to learn it
#1208 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> see als: perl
#1209 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> s/als/&o/
#1210 [15:21] <Kealper> i wish others would see it that way lol
#1211 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> One of these days I'll be able to actually type AutoIt without having to stop, go back, and demote the 'T'.
#1212 [15:22] <Kealper> that's also another thing that bugs the crap out of me lol...when people say AutoIT...it's "it" not "eye-tee" >:(
#1213 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> (speakig of holy wars.. (: )
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#1215 [15:23] <Kealper> ^
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#1217 [15:23] * Kealper is an AutoIt fanboy, and not afraid to admit it :P
#1217 [15:23] <Captain-Lightning> Autoit is useful now and again
#1218 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> In the rare cases that I need to script things on a WinBox, I have yet to see something that can't be done with some combination of Task Scheduler, cmd.exe, python, and cygwin
#1219 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> (MSSQL bulls[bleep]t notwithstanding. f[bleep]king MSSQL.)
#1220 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> (pardon my English)
#1221 [15:25] <Captain-Lightning> SQL > XML
#1222 [15:25] <Kealper> easier to just use a language that has it's roots in automating windows than to hammer Python into it...but yet again, i guess it's really just a case of stick with what you know
#1223 [15:26] <Vhozard> Captain-Lightning: nah, flash > all
#1224 [15:26] <Captain-Lightning> Did you seriously just say that
#1225 [15:26] * Kealper just died a bit reading that
#1225 [15:26] <Captain-Lightning> I think I just died a little inside
#1226 [15:26] <Vhozard> youtube has it
#1227 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> Captain-Lightning: MySQL ~= PgSQL > XML ~= SQLite > MSSQL
#1228 [15:26] <Captain-Lightning> I've only ever used XML, SQLite, and MySQL
#1229 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> HTML5 > Flash.
#1230 [15:26] <Kealper> key=value ini files anyone?
#1231 [15:26] <Captain-Lightning> Never touched the other two.
#1232 [15:27] <Captain-Lightning> jQuery + Well coded CSS > HTML5 > Flash > Silverlight
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#1234 [15:27] <Kealper> Silverlight actually isn't too bad...especially for being made from Microsoft lol
#1235 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> :(){:&:};: > Silverlight
#1236 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> (don't run that)
#1237 [15:27] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: not quite yet for youtube
#1238 [15:27] <AG_Scott> Right after the Microsoft is buying Skype announcement, they started using silverlight on skype.com
#1239 [15:27] <Kealper> Vhozard: http://youtube.com/html5
#1240 [15:27] <Vhozard> flash interface is still superior to html5
#1241 [15:28] <Vhozard> Kealper: I know
#1242 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Thanks, MS, for giving Google Voice more market share!
#1243 [15:28] <Kealper> ^
#1244 [15:28] <Kealper> but also in HTML5's defence, it's not even done yet, it's still being thought-out
#1245 [15:28] <Kealper> Flash has had years to get it's crap together :/
#1246 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> True Fact: It took MS five years from the time they bought HotMail to realise that it was running on POSIX servers and port them all to IIS
#1247 [15:28] <Vhozard> had ?
#1248 [15:28] <Vhozard> its still crap, mostly
#1249 [15:29] <Kealper> Vhozard: my statement was not in Flash's favor :/
#1250 [15:29] <Vhozard> its just google that decide to put lower quality video on the html5 videos
#1251 [15:29] <Vhozard> (webm instead of h264)
#1252 [15:29] <zaaKun> uh, can i make it stop raining in mp? own server
#1253 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> Silverlight, just like ActiveX, can go DIABF. All it is is a blatant also-ran from MS to try to engender browser lock-in
#1254 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> zaaKun: not without mods
#1255 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> (yet)
#1256 [15:30] <Kealper> WebM actually has very good quality
#1257 [15:30] <AG_Scott> Vhozard, that depends on your browser I believe.
#1258 [15:30] <Kealper> and it uses Ogg Vorbis for audio, which is lightyears better than MP3
#1259 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> it also support Ogg Theora for Video IIRC
#1260 [15:30] <zaaKun> hmpf...just placed all the tnt to get rid of that "mountain" and it started to rain >.<
#1261 [15:31] <Kealper> Theora video quality is a joke compared to WebM or h.264 though :/
#1262 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> Rain squelches TNT? Interesting.
#1263 [15:31] <Vhozard> AG_Scott: Really? I thought every html5 vid uses webm
#1264 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> Jane: Each mainstream browser supports a different VCoDec for HTML5. Annoyingly.
#1265 [15:31] <zaaKun> well i can't put the TNT on fire, but i could use redstone...;o
#1266 [15:32] <AG_Scott> They use h.264 too.
#1267 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> It's the new Beta/VHS, I mean DivX/DVD, I mean HDDVD/Blu-Ray
#1268 [15:32] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: please call me by my name :)
#1269 [15:32] <Kealper> i believe all new ones are converted to WebM, but the ones prior to WebM are still using h.264
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#1272 [15:32] <Vhozard> if Google just upped the bitrate on the 1080p vids, it wouldnt matter if its theora or h264
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#1274 [15:33] <AG_Scott> HDDVD lol.
#1275 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> really? Upping the bitrate would improve media quality? I'm shocked. Shocked!
#1276 [15:33] <Jackson413> hey dudes
#1277 [15:33] <Kealper> Vhozard: they can't do that though, most people's internet can't handle the stuff as it is right now :/
#1278 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> (I'm not that shocked.)
#1279 [15:33] <Vhozard> Kealper: nope, YouTube recenylu stated that they will convert older videos to wemb too
#1280 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> morning, Jackson413
#1281 [15:33] <Jackson413> lol its 3:00
#1282 [15:33] <Vhozard> Kealper: only for the 1080p vids I said ;)
#1283 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> It's morning on half the planet; I just round up.
#1284 [15:33] <Kealper> ^
#1285 [15:33] <Jackson413> lol
#1286 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> (I should /alias that..)
#1287 [15:34] <Kealper> brb, twinkies
#1288 [15:34] <Jackson413> im looking for an antivirus
#1289 [15:34] <Jackson413> program
#1290 [15:34] <Kealper> Avira
#1291 [15:34] <Kealper> or Linux
#1292 [15:34] <Vhozard> microsoft essentials
#1293 [15:34] <Vhozard> or Linux
#1294 [15:34] <Jackson413> yeah but is it worth it
#1295 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> Or BSD
#1296 [15:34] <Jackson413> i ran avira and it is expired
#1297 [15:34] <Vhozard> Avira is free ?
#1298 [15:34] <Vhozard> ..
#1299 [15:34] <Jackson413> nope
#1300 [15:34] <Jackson413> says my protection has run out
#1301 [15:34] <Kealper> Jackson413: you're doing it wrong then...get Avira Personal edition, it's free
#1302 [15:34] <Vhozard> http://www.avira.com/en/avira-free-antivirus
#1303 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> but if you want to stick with Windows: MS Essentials, AVG, Avast, or ClamAV
#1304 [15:35] <Vhozard> Guess its free, Jackson413
#1305 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> Pick one and only one
#1306 [15:35] <Jackson413> avg is a piece of shit
#1307 [15:35] <Vhozard> avg became crap lately
#1308 [15:35] <Vhozard> previous version were good
#1309 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> more than one virus scanner and they get into fights over who gets to scan what first, and your system suffers rather a lot.
#1310 [15:35] <oldtopman> sbsd FTW
#1311 [15:35] <Jackson413> avg has been shit ever since it didnt work with combofix
#1312 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> ??combofix
#1313 [15:36] <Jackson413> youve never heard of combofix?
#1314 [15:36] <Vhozard> me neither
#1315 [15:36] <Kealper> i haven't either
#1316 [15:36] <Jackson413> omg
#1317 [15:36] <g> ^
#1318 [15:36] <Kealper> which means it's probably spyware
#1319 [15:36] <Jackson413> its like the best antivirus thing ever
#1320 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> or Windows-only
#1321 [15:36] <Jackson413> made by this guy called sUBs
#1322 [15:36] <Jackson413> and yes it is windows only
#1323 [15:36] <Kealper> sounds like spyware to me >.>
#1324 [15:36] <g> "its like the best antivirus thing ever"
#1325 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> interest waning.
#1326 [15:36] <Vhozard> Combofix is a freeware (a legitimate spyware remover created by sUBs), Combofix was designed to scan a computer for known malware, spyware (SurfSideKick, QooLogic, and Look2Me as well as any other combination of the mentioned spyware applications) and remove them.
#1327 [15:36] <g> You, sir, have made my day
#1328 [15:37] <Jackson413> be careful with it
#1329 [15:37] <Jackson413> while it can be really helpful, it can be like a registry "fixer"
#1330 [15:37] <Vhozard> well, atleast its not named "SuperUltraGOODNEW-SuperAntiSpyware2000"
#1331 [15:37] <Jackson413> lol
#1332 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> ah, it's a fix in the same manner as `dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=10240`
#1333 [15:38] <Jackson413> if something like that comes up
#1334 [15:38] * Kealper thinks he'll just stick with Avira, and for serious cases which need immediate cleanup: MBAM
#1334 [15:38] <Jackson413> mbam?
#1335 [15:38] <g> http://www.scribd.com/doc/11258626/Combofix-is-It-Safe-Dont-Download-Combofix-Until-You-Read-This
#1336 [15:38] <g> Seems legit
#1337 [15:38] <Jackson413> what is that short for
#1338 [15:38] <Kealper> Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
#1339 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> malwarebytes' antimalware
#1340 [15:38] <aetherian> haha
#1341 [15:38] <DopeGhoti> (all together, now)
#1342 [15:38] <VoxelHead> they've locked down their fortress... with locks but that's just one bot's opinion
#1343 [15:39] <Jackson413> combofix is really bad if you dont know when to use it
#1344 [15:39] <Jackson413> its like a last chance, no fail solution
#1345 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> sounds increasingly like fdisk.
#1346 [15:39] <Kealper> lol
#1347 [15:39] <Vhozard> Windows you mean ;)
#1348 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> no, I mean fdisk. That's why I typed 'fdisk'.
#1349 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> (and did not subsequently amend)
#1350 [15:40] <Vhozard> dont spoil the funs now ;)
#1351 [15:40] <Vhozard> in a few days it will be Friday
#1352 [15:40] <Vhozard> fun fun fun fun!
#1353 [15:40] <Kealper> ._.
#1354 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> I tend to have mor fun on Saturday.
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#1356 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> s/mor/&e/
#1357 [15:40] <Vhozard> after which comes Sunday!
#1358 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> Usually.
#1359 [15:40] <Jackson413> combofix has never not worked
#1360 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> 'never' eh?
#1361 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> that's a mighty claim you've got there.
#1362 [15:41] <AG_Scott> This is some good antivirus: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/lolfail.png
#1363 [15:41] * Kealper prepares an Arch iso
#1363 [15:41] <Jackson413> for me
#1364 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> and.. it still sounds increasingly like fdisk. (:
#1365 [15:41] <Jackson413> i really wanna run linux someday though
#1366 [15:41] <DopeGhoti> if you need a tool like that repeatedly, You Are Doing The Internet Wrong.
#1367 [15:41] <Vhozard> AG_Scott: I got that too
#1368 [15:41] <Kealper> AG_Scott: wow! that av has it's own theme!
#1369 [15:42] <Vhozard> funny thing is, I run linux
#1370 [15:42] <g> xD
#1371 [15:42] <Vhozard> so im like, haha nice try
#1372 [15:42] <VoxelHead> you're after my robot bee!~~#*!~££@££@*$!
#1373 [15:42] <Vhozard> but s
#1374 [15:42] <Vhozard> ome time later I got a call from my father
#1375 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: *snrk*
#1376 [15:42] <Vhozard> turns out he installed it
#1377 [15:42] <Vhozard> -__-
#1378 [15:42] <AG_Scott> My desktop looks better now.
#1379 [15:42] <VoxelHead> ;)
#1380 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: how you feelin' by the by?
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#1382 [15:43] <AG_Scott> Not very good.
#1383 [15:43] <Vhozard> I had to do a complete re-install of windows :(
#1384 [15:43] <runinho> hello
#1385 [15:43] <Kealper> AG_Scott: :<
#1386 [15:43] <Kealper> runinho: hi
#1387 [15:43] <AG_Scott> I quit taking theraflu and feel somewhat better though
#1388 [15:43] <runinho> I have a problem.
#1389 [15:43] <AG_Scott> I've only puked once today :D
#1390 [15:43] <Kealper> runinho: what sort of problem?
#1391 [15:43] <runinho> i think my minecraft account was hacked!
#1392 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> runinho: care to be more specific?
#1393 [15:44] <runinho> what can i do?
#1394 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> runinho: use the PW reset tool, and then pick a password other than '1234'
#1395 [15:44] <Kealper> runinho: are you positive that you have the correct login info?
#1396 [15:44] <Vhozard> Yeah, use "password123"
#1397 [15:44] <runinho> I've make this already but my password is wrong.
#1398 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> or 'hunter2'
#1399 [15:44] <Vhozard> its probably the most safe one, as no one expects you use it
#1400 [15:44] <Kealper> ^
#1401 [15:44] <runinho> the hacker change my password
#1402 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> or better yet, '****'
#1403 [15:44] <runinho> and my email too :(
#1404 [15:44] <Morrolan> runinho: Yea, use the pw reset thingy.
#1405 [15:44] <Morrolan> Oh.
#1406 [15:44] <Vhozard> ouch
#1407 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> which mail provider?
#1408 [15:44] <VoxelHead> awww
#1409 [15:44] * VoxelHead sniggers at Vhozard
#1409 [15:44] * AuBot kicked VoxelHead from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please keep it civil.)
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#1411 [15:44] <Jackson413> you cant change the email?
#1412 [15:45] <Morrolan> XD
#1413 [15:45] <runinho> no
#1414 [15:45] <Kealper> XD
#1415 [15:45] <Vhozard> dont do that VoxelHead
#1416 [15:45] <Vhozard> xD
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#1418 [15:45] <runinho> because i can't log in in Minecraft.net
#1419 [15:45] <Morrolan> runinho: Which mail provider are you using?
#1420 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: okay, so there is a false positive there.
#1421 [15:45] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: so it seems lol....
#1422 [15:45] <Vhozard> Haha, I love when you run Linux everything works great
#1423 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I'll change it to 'snickers'
#1424 [15:45] <Vhozard> until you try to run windows programs (wine)
#1425 [15:45] <Vhozard> you get this: http://members.ziggo.nl/vhozard/images/Funny_images/images/error.png
#1426 [15:45] <runinho> www.web.de
#1427 [15:45] <Vhozard> ...
#1428 [15:45] <Morrolan> Jackson: Nope, you can't.
#1429 [15:45] <Jackson413> since when could you change the email on your minecraft account
#1430 [15:45] <runinho> this is my email provider
#1431 [15:46] <Jackson413> oh
#1432 [15:46] <Captain-Lightning> Why did he get kicked for saying that?
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#1434 [15:46] <AG_Scott> It detected a naughty word.
#1435 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> sniggers
#1436 [15:46] * AuBot kicked GreyVulpine from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please keep it civil.)
#1437 [15:46] <Vhozard> <--- secret irc powers ;)
#1438 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> runinho: contact web.de and recover your email account.
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#1440 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1441 [15:46] <Kealper> BTW
#1442 [15:46] <Kealper> we can't say those either
#1443 [15:46] <Captain-Lightning> BLACK PEOPLE
#1444 [15:46] * GreyVulpine kicks aubot
#1444 [15:46] <Captain-Lightning> Oh man, it didn't kick me.
#1445 [15:46] <Jackson413> kick kick kick
#1446 [15:46] <runinho> okay, thank you all
#1447 [15:46] <VoxelHead> bye ionface
#1448 [15:46] <Vhozard> haha
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#1450 [15:46] <Vhozard> http://members.ziggo.nl/vhozard/images/Funny_images/images/2011-05-10-230504_3286x1080_scrot.png
#1451 [15:46] <Vhozard> google translate fail
#1452 [15:47] <Morrolan> Oh, and choose a different password for your mail account than for the rest in the future, runinho.
#1453 [15:47] <Jackson413> i got a spanish joke for you
#1454 [15:47] <g> Vhozard, lol
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#1456 [15:47] <Jackson413> there is this verb 'joder'
#1457 [15:47] <Jackson413> it means to annoy in central american
#1458 [15:47] <Jackson413> but the spain traditional translation means to fuck
#1459 [15:48] <Jackson413> i would hate to be like a central american spanish speaker and travel to spain
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#1461 [15:49] * Kealper goes to check if a cd burner is available
#1461 [15:49] <Jackson413> was the conficker virus ever released?
#1462 [15:50] <Kealper> yes, but much like the Y2K bug, it was overhyped so bad it was not even funny
#1463 [15:50] <Jackson413> i really wasnt old enough to understand y2k
#1464 [15:51] <Jackson413> did anything at all happen when that struck
#1465 [15:51] <Kealper> no, not really
#1466 [15:51] <Jackson413> like anything in the slightest
#1467 [15:51] <Kealper> a few programs that were written badly needed to have a quick patch, but that's about it
#1468 [15:51] <Jackson413> lol
#1469 [15:51] <Jackson413> even windows me?
#1470 [15:52] <Jackson413> that was a horrid version
#1471 [15:52] <Kealper> it basically affected any program that was storing it's year dates as "98" instead of "1998"
#1472 [15:52] * oldtopman kicks AuBot
#1472 [15:52] <Kealper> which is completely stupid and no programmer should ever do that in the first place, so...
#1473 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> Most of the "Y2K bugs" hit _years_ before Jan 2000
#1474 [15:52] <Jackson413> what would that have done
#1475 [15:52] <Jackson413> to a program
#1476 [15:52] <Kealper> Jackson413: if the program was written badly, it would have thought it was 1900 instead of 2000
#1477 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> like people renewing credit cards with most-2000 expiry dates getting transactions denied &c
#1478 [15:52] <Jackson413> would it just not have worked
#1479 [15:52] <Jackson413> or work it fail misterably
#1480 [15:53] <Kealper> basically what DopeGhoti said
#1481 [15:53] <Jackson413> dahdahdahderp
#1482 [15:53] <xolotl> Jackson413: That or thought that it was 20100 instead of 2000
#1483 [15:53] * xolotl waves at various Perl scripts found around the internet at the time
#1483 [15:53] <AG_Scott> speaking of which....
#1484 [15:53] <AG_Scott> I need to call my bank.
#1485 [15:53] <Kealper> lol
#1486 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> oh?
#1487 [15:53] <Jackson413> lmao
#1488 [15:53] <AG_Scott> For some odd reason, i keep getting declined.
#1489 [15:53] <AG_Scott> I think they locked my card or something :/
#1490 [15:54] <Kealper> right then, as i have confirmed i have an Arch x86 iso....brb for burning
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#1492 [15:54] <AG_Scott> Kealper, I'm playing with Mint 11 RC
#1493 [15:54] <Vhozard> can I get a vhost on esper ?
#1494 [15:54] <AG_Scott> Vhozard, No.
#1495 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> Jane: No
#1496 [15:54] <Vhozard> :(
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#1498 [15:54] <AG_Scott> But you can connect from an IP with a PTR record of what you want
#1499 [15:54] <AG_Scott> like this!
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#1502 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> Though if you connect with a client with a proper PTR record for its IP, you can get a non-virtual host.
#1503 [15:54] <Vhozard> uhm, what ?
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#1505 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott, you ninja you.
#1506 [15:55] <Vhozard> whats a PTR
#1507 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> !wiki ptr
#1508 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> Pointer.
#1509 [15:55] <GreyBot> Wikipedia No Match
#1510 [15:55] <Kealper> AG_Scott: is Mint 11 any good? Mint is a bit heavy for resources, but i liked the previous ones
#1511 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#1512 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> it's the type of record used for reverse DNS
#1513 [15:55] <Jackson413> hey this email got returned to me with the error The error that the other server returned was: 553 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.5.3 - chkuser) (state 14
#1514 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> rather than matching a hostname to an IP, it does the reverse
#1515 [15:55] <Jackson413> does that look man mad
#1516 [15:55] <Jackson413> made
#1517 [15:55] <AG_Scott> Kealper, i'm not sure yet XD
#1518 [15:55] <Jackson413> like they are saying not their problem
#1519 [15:56] <Jackson413> or was it generated by a server
#1520 [15:56] <Vhozard> mint is heavy on the resources indeed
#1521 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: looks like their mail server is saying "We don't accept mail from your domain; we don't want any; go away."
#1522 [15:56] <Vhozard> I like arch :)
#1523 [15:56] <elon> I've set up a minecraft server from my arch linux installation. Server runs fine, port is forwarded, and when I connect using my internal IP, I can connect. Only when I connect using my external IP(on the same computer I run the server), I get a server timeout. Is this normal? Will people outside my LAN be able to connect?
#1524 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> I still need to give Arch a try.
#1525 [15:56] <AG_Scott> I like something that just works.
#1526 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/server-ip
#1527 [15:56] <VoxelHead> smp/server-ip: Do not enter anything on the server-ip= line of the server.properties file. In nearly ALL cases, you want to leave it blank.
#1528 [15:56] <Vhozard> elon: perfectly normal
#1529 [15:56] <Jackson413> so that means if i try from another domain it might work?
#1530 [15:57] <AG_Scott> Idc about resource usage unless it's insane.
#1531 [15:57] <Jackson413> address?
#1532 [15:57] <elon> Thanks
#1533 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> elon: cheers
#1534 [15:57] <Vhozard> elon: and yes, people will probably be able to connect outside your lan
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#1536 [15:57] <shapeshifter_Ex> helllooo
#1537 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> 'lo gov'na
#1538 [15:58] <oldtopman> shapeshifter_Ex: Hi!
#1539 [15:59] <Vhozard> thats some proper advice right there
#1540 [15:59] <Vhozard> http://i.imgur.com/6mDCo.jpg
#1541 [16:00] <shapeshifter_Ex> lol hey oldtopman hows my budd doin?
#1542 [16:00] <oldtopman> XD
#1543 [16:00] <oldtopman> Fine
#1544 [16:00] * oldtopman wonders what he did to become your friend.
#1544 [16:00] <shapeshifter_Ex> cool cool =P im bored as hell
#1545 [16:00] * lKnightwolfl [lKnightwolfl@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1546 [16:01] <shapeshifter_Ex> and everyone is my friend =D
#1547 [16:01] <lKnightwolfl> Hello?
#1548 [16:01] <oldtopman> You do know that was a mercy kick I gave you when you were on my server right?
#1549 [16:01] <Vhozard> im not, shapeshifter_Ex
#1550 [16:01] <Vhozard> you killed Charlie
#1551 [16:01] <Vhozard> :(
#1552 [16:01] <lKnightwolfl> Can someone help?
#1553 [16:01] <shapeshifter_Ex> =[
#1554 [16:01] <oldtopman> ??>> lKnightwolfl ask
#1555 [16:01] <shapeshifter_Ex> sure knight
#1556 [16:01] <VoxelHead> Sure knight... sight.
#1557 [16:01] <shapeshifter_Ex> if you have a qustion ask it
#1558 [16:01] <AG_Scott> Kealper, mint11 rc is installing nao
#1559 [16:02] <lKnightwolfl> Im getting hacked in minecraft everytime he joins the server im in
#1560 [16:02] <AG_Scott> It seems quick.
#1561 [16:02] <lKnightwolfl> How do I report him?
#1562 [16:02] <shapeshifter_Ex> how do you know that your getting hacked?
#1563 [16:02] <oldtopman> lKnightwolfl: How?
#1564 [16:02] <lKnightwolfl> He makes me drop things and move and im not doing it
#1565 [16:02] <oldtopman> lKnightwolfl: Find a better server.
#1566 [16:02] <lKnightwolfl> Also he can make me type or bring up inv
#1567 [16:02] <shapeshifter_Ex> lulz thats not hacking
#1568 [16:02] <shapeshifter_Ex> thats admin controlls
#1569 [16:03] <shapeshifter_Ex> and
#1570 [16:03] <lKnightwolfl> He can ALWAYS find me
#1571 [16:03] <Jackson413> DDOS
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#1573 [16:03] <Jackson413> lol
#1574 [16:03] <shapeshifter_Ex> find a better server
#1575 [16:03] <shapeshifter_Ex> knight
#1576 [16:03] <oldtopman> shapeshifter_Ex: Thats what I said!
#1577 [16:03] <shapeshifter_Ex> thats admin tools
#1578 [16:03] <shapeshifter_Ex> you can do that if your an addmin
#1579 [16:03] <lKnightwolfl> And it only happens when he joins
#1580 [16:03] <shapeshifter_Ex> and i know i was quoteing genuis =]
#1581 [16:03] <shapeshifter_Ex> knight
#1582 [16:03] <shapeshifter_Ex> if you dont listen to me
#1583 [16:03] <shapeshifter_Ex> your dumb
#1584 [16:03] <lKnightwolfl> I did
#1585 [16:04] <shapeshifter_Ex> he is an admin for the server
#1586 [16:04] <oldtopman> lKnightwolfl: Find a better server.
#1587 [16:04] <shapeshifter_Ex> therefore
#1588 [16:04] <Vhozard> You're*
#1589 [16:04] <lKnightwolfl> But everytime I join a DIFFRENT server
#1590 [16:04] <lKnightwolfl> Its fine but when he joins
#1591 [16:04] <Morrolan> Already changed your password?
#1592 [16:04] <lKnightwolfl> He has control over me
#1593 [16:04] <lKnightwolfl> Yes
#1594 [16:04] <oldtopman> lKnightwolfl: Which servers have you tried?
#1595 [16:04] <shapeshifter_Ex> find a server thats whiteloisted
#1596 [16:04] <shapeshifter_Ex> whitelisted*
#1597 [16:04] <Morrolan> Made sure that there is malware on your PC?
#1598 [16:04] <Morrolan> is no*
#1599 [16:04] <lKnightwolfl> It just detected one
#1600 [16:05] <oldtopman> lKnightwolfl: I have a question. Can you two meet up on my server?
#1601 [16:05] <shapeshifter_Ex> delete it and move on
#1602 [16:05] <lKnightwolfl> Im removing it and I will test it now
#1603 [16:05] <shapeshifter_Ex> so anyway to the matters before hand
#1604 [16:05] <shapeshifter_Ex> im sorry for killing charlie =[
#1605 [16:05] <Jackson413> dont worry i killed kenny
#1606 [16:06] <shapeshifter_Ex> you bastard
#1607 [16:06] <shapeshifter_Ex> o.o
#1608 [16:06] <lKnightwolfl> It just keeps poping up the same thing but I quit minecraft bye.
#1609 [16:06] <shapeshifter_Ex> byebye
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#1611 [16:06] <Jackson413> :D
#1612 [16:06] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1613 [16:06] <oldtopman> ...
#1614 [16:06] <Jackson413> lol
#1615 [16:06] <shapeshifter_Ex> what did i do something wrong? o.o
#1616 [16:06] * oldtopman wanted to meet the 1337 hazker.
#1616 [16:07] * shapeshifter_Ex as did he
#1616 [16:07] <shapeshifter_Ex> oldtopman you should come see my tree house i made =o
#1617 [16:08] <oldtopman> On my server?
#1618 [16:08] <oldtopman> Or on yours?
#1619 [16:08] <shapeshifter_Ex> on i_eat_plastics
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#1621 [16:08] <oldtopman> shapeshifter_Ex: There are two issues with that.
#1622 [16:08] <shapeshifter_Ex> whats those? o.o
#1623 [16:09] <oldtopman> First, I don't want to right now.
#1624 [16:09] <oldtopman> (I'm busy on mine ATM)
#1625 [16:09] <shapeshifter_Ex> aww
#1626 [16:09] <shapeshifter_Ex> id youtube it but my computer sucks =[
#1627 [16:10] * oldtopman is happy he didn't have to use his second reason
#1627 [16:11] * shapeshifter_Ex is sad beacuse he dosent want everyone to know he only has 1GB of ram*
#1627 [16:12] <shapeshifter_Ex> *sadface*
#1628 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_Ex: solution: buy and install more RAM.
#1629 [16:12] <oldtopman> You didn't want to hear my second reason?
#1630 [16:13] <shapeshifter_Ex> im sure it isnt nessasary =] and dope easier said then done
#1631 [16:13] <shapeshifter_Ex> my laptop has no more room inside of it for crap T.T
#1632 [16:14] <shapeshifter_Ex> i might take the CD drive out though...
#1633 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_Ex: your laptop's RAM is not upgradeable?
#1634 [16:14] <shapeshifter_Ex> according to staples thats all that can fit in here
#1635 [16:14] <shapeshifter_Ex> its old as hell/.. 2001 compaq
#1636 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> Staples is not exactly the be-all and end-all of authorative information
#1637 [16:15] <shapeshifter_Ex> i know this
#1638 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> their advice will nearly always be "You need to buy a new notebook, like this one right here!"
#1639 [16:15] <shapeshifter_Ex> and then i tell them i have no money
#1640 [16:15] <shapeshifter_Ex> and they say GTFO
#1641 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> RTFM your computer, find out where the DIMM slot is, and see what it can take. If it's a 2001 vintage, you can get 2GB of ram in there probably, for hardly any money.
#1642 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> and almost definitely install it yourself.
#1643 [16:16] <shapeshifter_Ex> in english pl0x ... >.>
#1644 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Upgrading RAM in a laptop is relatively simple. Look at a manual, google for it if you have to
#1645 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> Read your computer's Friendly Manual, find out where the Dual Inline Memory Module slot is, and see what it can take. If it's a 2001 vintage, you can get 2GB of ram in there probably, for hardly any money.
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#1647 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> It's just, find screws, unscrew cover, insert part A, into slot B, replace cover
#1648 [16:17] <shapeshifter_Ex> problem!
#1649 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> solution!
#1650 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Ruh-roh
#1651 [16:17] <VoxelHead> \o/ solution
#1652 [16:18] <shapeshifter_Ex> dope my manual has been lost since 02
#1653 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_Ex: it can be found on compaq.com almost assuredly.
#1654 [16:18] <shapeshifter_Ex> and yes its 2001 vintage
#1655 [16:18] <shapeshifter_Ex> ehe so how much would you think itd cost me?
#1656 [16:18] <Kealper> i feel old now
#1657 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> the manual? $0.
#1658 [16:18] <shapeshifter_Ex> its fine kealper your still a god
#1659 [16:18] <shapeshifter_Ex> the ram lol
#1660 [16:18] <Kealper> ._.
#1661 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> the RAM? I'd be shocked if it were >$20
#1662 [16:19] <shapeshifter_Ex> im smart to know anything online can be freew
#1663 [16:19] <shapeshifter_Ex> free*
#1664 [16:19] <Kealper> "You wouldn't download a RAM..."
#1665 [16:19] <shapeshifter_Ex> and beacuse i loved minecraft i bought it <3
#1666 [16:19] <shapeshifter_Ex> i knowwww
#1667 [16:19] <shapeshifter_Ex> was talking about the manual
#1668 [16:19] <Kealper> oh lol
#1669 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> ??+ cpu-z|An excellent utility for determining what CPU, RAM, and GPU your system has, and what upgrades it can likely take, is CPU-Z, which can be downloaded for free from this URL: http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php
#1670 [16:20] * Kealper wonders how hard a PXE install of Arch could be...
#1670 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: not very
#1671 [16:21] <Kealper> i've never done a PXE install of a linux before :/
#1672 [16:21] <shapeshifter_Ex> downloading now
#1673 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Assuming the installer supports net installs, PXE should be easy to set up and I would be shocked (Shocked!) if Arch did not yet support this.
#1674 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> (yes, I'd be that shocked.)
#1675 [16:22] <shapeshifter_Ex> dumb qustion
#1676 [16:22] <shapeshifter_Ex> whats PXE?
#1677 [16:22] <Kealper> yeah, reading the arch wiki, it has an article on pxe
#1678 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> Pre-eXecution Environment
#1679 [16:22] <Kealper> install over network
#1680 [16:22] <shapeshifter_Ex> O.o
#1681 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> s/install/boot/
#1682 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> It uses TFTP and DHCP to shoot a boot image to a compter from which it boots; it's most often used for LAN OS installs or diagnostics
#1683 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Instead of having a disc right at the computer to install the operating system, you can just hook up the computer to the network, and it'll pull down the image off the network
#1684 [16:23] <shapeshifter_Ex> ahh
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#1686 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Useful in cases where you have to install an OS off a thousand or two computers
#1687 [16:23] <shapeshifter_Ex> and what am i supposed to be doing with the cup-z?
#1688 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine oversimplifies for the sake of brevity, but essentially, that.
#1689 [16:23] <shapeshifter_Ex> cpu
#1690 [16:23] <shapeshifter_Ex> *
#1691 [16:24] <shapeshifter_Ex> and thankyou
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#1693 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_Ex: that was more a for-future-reference FAQ entry, but you can use it to determine what speed RAM your computer uses, then go to pricewatch.com (for example) and see how much a 2GiB RAM kit would cost for that type of RAM
#1694 [16:25] <shapeshifter_Ex> my BIOS is from 2005 o.O
#1695 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> then, once you can confirmed that it can in fact /handle/ 2GiB of RAM from the documentation at the OEM site, you know how much you're in for, for the upgrade.
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#1697 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> Wow, Compaq really was ahead of their time.
#1698 [16:26] <shapeshifter_Ex> ikr lolz
#1699 [16:26] <Kealper> dare i ask? lol
#1700 [16:26] <Kealper> oh, nvm
#1701 [16:26] * DopeGhoti is old enough to remember when Compaqs did not, as a rule, suck (:
#1701 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1702 [16:26] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1703 [16:26] <shapeshifter_Ex> lol how old is that? XD
#1704 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> That would've been quite a long while ago
#1705 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> about.. 20+ years or so ago?
#1706 [16:27] <PuffyCow> Okay, for some reason when I try to upload a new skin, it never actually uploads. Or, at least, I don't think it does because nothing changes on the profile page, it only refreshes.
#1707 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> that sounds about right.
#1708 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> PuffyCow - There's no confirmation page, but it still uploads fine
#1709 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> ?? mc.net/skins
#1710 [16:27] <VoxelHead> mc.net/skins: Skin uploading will appear not to do anything at minecraft.net. However, if you have uploaded a new skin file, it *will* work in-game. Give it a try! (:
#1711 [16:27] <shapeshifter_Ex> is voxel a bot? lol
#1712 [16:27] <VoxelHead> Nope.
#1713 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1714 [16:27] <Kealper> lol
#1715 [16:27] <shapeshifter_Ex> lolz
#1716 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> vox: asl?
#1717 [16:27] <VoxelHead> dopeghoti: 25/male/amsterdam
#1718 [16:28] <shapeshifter_Ex> o.o
#1719 [16:28] <PuffyCow> The thing is, I uploaded Batman. No matter how many servers I join, no one ever treats me with the fear the Dark Knight deserves. So I really don't think it is working.
#1720 [16:28] <VoxelHead> watch out for the moose
#1721 [16:28] <shapeshifter_Ex> puffy batman is not to be feared
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#1723 [16:28] <shapeshifter_Ex> he is to be loathed
#1724 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> PuffyCow - Restart your client after you upload a skin
#1725 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> PuffyCow: once you are in-server, open your inventory. If you see your skin, so does everyone else.
#1726 [16:29] <shapeshifter_Ex> really guys? "No matter how many servers I join, no one ever treats me with the fear the Dark Knight deserves. So I really don't think it is working."
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#1728 [16:29] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, sorry about yesterday
#1729 [16:29] <TheNytangel> internet went off
#1730 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_Ex: step one: assure that the skin is working. Step two: inform the user that not everyone is a Batman fan.
#1731 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> No worries
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#1733 [16:30] <shapeshifter_Ex> gottcha
#1734 [16:30] <TheNytangel> ok, so why doesn
#1735 [16:30] <Kealper> bah, this PXE thing is hard....
#1736 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> not really
#1737 [16:30] <g> wahaha
#1738 [16:30] <g> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzZK9naf9yo
#1739 [16:30] <g> do want
#1740 [16:30] <VoxelHead> Well, nothing can stop VoxelHead... nothing! not even this army of zombies!
#1741 [16:30] <TheNytangel> damn enter button.. why doesnt my command prompt work?
#1742 [16:30] <shapeshifter_Ex> you know what else is hard?
#1743 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> define 'doesn't work'.
#1744 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Because you screwed up the environment variables
#1745 [16:30] <TheNytangel> wut
#1746 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> deleted your PATH
#1747 [16:31] <Kealper> shapeshifter_Ex: i'm not even sure i want you to complete that...lol
#1748 [16:31] <TheNytangel> what does that mean?
#1749 [16:31] <shapeshifter_Ex> trying to code when you lack all knowlage of computers
#1750 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> that's why nothing works in cmd
#1751 [16:31] <TheNytangel> and i fix that.. how?
#1752 [16:31] <Kealper> oh, more SFW than i thought
#1753 [16:31] <shapeshifter_Ex> =P
#1754 [16:31] <PuffyCow> Okay it definitely worked. People are running away from me now. They are so afraid, and don't know what to do. Thanks guys.
#1755 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - You went into your environment variables, and deleted everything
#1756 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> ouch.
#1757 [16:31] <TheNytangel> Where is that?
#1758 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> for path
#1759 [16:31] <shapeshifter_Ex> welcome
#1760 [16:31] <oldtopman> PuffyCow: np
#1761 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - It depends, what OS are you running?
#1762 [16:31] <TheNytangel> Vista
#1763 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#1764 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
#1765 [16:32] <TheNytangel> :P
#1766 [16:32] <xolotl> g: I prefer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z86V_ICUCD4
#1767 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> </tenthdoctor>
#1768 [16:32] <shapeshifter_Ex> ewwwwwww
#1769 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> I could pull up my vista laptop and grab a copy of the env variables, but google's probably faster.
#1770 [16:32] <TheNytangel> I really don't care, as long as it's fixed
#1771 [16:32] <shapeshifter_Ex> vox: what is the sq.rt. of pi cubed?
#1772 [16:32] <TheNytangel> But brb, I'm thirsty
#1773 [16:32] <VoxelHead> C to the O L D
#1774 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: chasms.com
#1775 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> ?
#1776 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: interactive OS screenshots. generally for network setup walkthroughs, but may have the env vars visible
#1777 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, nope
#1778 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> darn
#1779 [16:34] <shapeshifter_Ex> is a RADION XPRESS 200 series a good graphics card? T.T
#1780 [16:34] <shapeshifter_Ex> radeon*
#1781 [16:34] <Kealper> no
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#1783 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> anything with 'XPRESS'? No.
#1784 [16:35] <shapeshifter_Ex> yay!
#1785 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> see also 'Mobility'
#1786 [16:35] <shapeshifter_Ex> lolz
#1787 [16:35] <Kealper> ^
#1788 [16:35] <TheNytangel> see also 'What will fit in my computer' :P
#1789 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Bleh... my google-fu is failing me at the moment
#1790 [16:35] <Kealper> or RAGE
#1791 [16:35] <shapeshifter_Ex> well it is a laptop XD
#1792 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> For my next trick, I shall make food appear, and then make it disappear!
#1793 [16:36] <VoxelHead> And thaaan?
#1794 [16:36] <shapeshifter_Ex> he will make it brown
#1795 [16:36] <shapeshifter_Ex> and then make that dissaphere
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#1797 [16:36] <TheNytangel> Voxel is so random -_-
#1798 [16:36] * DopeGhoti returns to say: Hah!
#1798 [16:36] <shapeshifter_Ex> and voxelhead you never answerd my qustion =[
#1799 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Okay umm...
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#1801 [16:38] <shapeshifter_Ex> ok guise i has qustions for everyone who ever answers correctly wins a cookie
#1802 [16:38] <TheNytangel> i win
#1803 [16:38] <TheNytangel> gimmeh cookie
#1804 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Wow, ok, might have been better for TheNytangel to back up the PATH original environment variables
#1805 [16:38] <shapeshifter_Ex> noooooo
#1806 [16:38] * TheNytangel steals cookie
#1806 [16:38] <shapeshifter_Ex> TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>TheNytangel>
#1807 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Do you know how to get back into your env variables?
#1808 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> !k shapeshifter_Ex
#1809 [16:38] * GreyBot kicked shapeshifter_Ex from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:638>)
#1810 [16:38] <TheNytangel> lol
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#1812 [16:39] <TheNytangel> no, but i can try
#1813 [16:39] <shapeshifter_Ex> owch
#1814 [16:39] <shapeshifter_Ex> =[
#1815 [16:39] <shapeshifter_Ex> fiiinnneee i wont spammmmm
#1816 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> Please make sure you don't.
#1817 [16:40] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, no
#1818 [16:40] <TheNytangel> :)
#1819 [16:41] <VoxelHead> :-)
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#1821 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Start -> "Computer" -> right click -> properties -> advanced system settings -> environment variables
#1822 [16:41] <shapeshifter_Ex> i dont like people who make small changes to there name every 30 mins
#1823 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Bottom panel should be system variables, look for "Path"
#1824 [16:41] <shapeshifter_Ex> T>T
#1825 [16:41] <TheNytangel> damn it, let me restart my computer
#1826 [16:41] <TheNytangel> i cant do crap
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#1828 [16:42] <TheNytangel> the properties page failed to load >.>
#1829 [16:44] <shapeshifter_Ex> night guys
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#1834 [16:51] <TheNytangel> >.>
#1835 [16:52] <xales> <.<
#1836 [16:52] <TheNytangel> this is retarded..
#1837 [16:52] <TheNytangel> i can't click anything but the start button or the window open
#1838 [16:53] <TheNytangel> there
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#1840 [16:54] <TheNytangel> ok
#1841 [16:54] <TheNytangel> now what GreyVulpine
#1842 [16:54] <titegtnodI> ...The header to the rules of the channel reads like some sort of legally binding contract, wtf? "BY JOINING #MINECRAFTHELP, YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THESE RULES AND POLICIES " ... No I don't
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#1844 [16:57] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine?
#1845 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1846 [16:57] <TheNytangel> Now what?
#1847 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Did you find the "Path" variable?
#1848 [16:58] <TheNytangel> Yes
#1849 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy it here?
#1850 [16:58] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#1851 [16:59] <TheNytangel> No I cannot
#1852 [16:59] <Vhozard> create a symlink in a directory point to its root directory
#1853 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> ?
#1854 [16:59] <Vhozard> run a script that cd's in it
#1855 [17:00] <Vhozard> ----> infinite loop
#1856 [17:00] <Vhozard> :D
#1857 [17:00] <VoxelHead> :o)
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#1861 [17:04] <TheNytangel> So..
#1862 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you copy it?
#1863 [17:04] <TheNytangel> Erm..
#1864 [17:04] <TheNytangel> I don't have one?
#1865 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> The path variable under system variables?
#1866 [17:05] <TheNytangel> I may have deleted it..
#1867 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> ...
#1868 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> You're joking
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#1870 [17:06] <aikaramba> Whoever recommended me the TMI, thanks again
#1871 [17:06] <TheNytangel> Yeah, I'm joking
#1872 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> ...
#1873 [17:06] <TheNytangel> Someone just.. may have been on teamviewer and replaced it with something else
#1874 [17:07] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1874 [17:10] <TheNytangel> So..
#1875 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> make absolutely sure there's no "Path" variable under system variables.
#1876 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> If not, make one
#1877 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Copy this into it:
#1878 [17:11] <grey> %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;%SYSTEMROOT%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\
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#1880 [17:12] <TheNytangel> What grey said?
#1881 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1882 [17:14] <aikaramba> Good lord
#1883 [17:15] <TheNytangel> Ok. Now. Why can no one connect to my server? Well, I don't know if nobody can, but someone else in my household can't
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#1885 [17:15] <^Satana^> ^Satana^ saluta tutti voi di #minecrafthelp
#1886 [17:15] <aetherian> wha
#1887 [17:15] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kickban it
#1888 [17:16] <aikaramba> is it bad?
#1889 [17:16] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :It's a bot
#1890 [17:16] <^Satana^> !list
#1891 [17:16] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Just wandered into #bukkit
#1892 [17:16] <aikaramba> ^Satana^, are you a bot?
#1893 [17:16] <TheNytangel> Si
#1894 [17:16] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kickbanned, then it came here.
#1895 [17:16] <TheNytangel> :P
#1896 [17:16] <aikaramba> it wont tell
#1897 [17:16] <TheNytangel> ^Satana^
#1898 [17:16] <aetherian> ^Satana^ :O
#1899 [17:16] <^Satana^> no
#1900 [17:16] <TheNytangel> yes you are
#1901 [17:16] <TheNytangel> liar >.>
#1902 [17:17] <^Satana^> i`m a uman
#1903 [17:17] <Kealper> >.>
#1904 [17:17] <aetherian> oboy
#1905 [17:17] <TheNytangel> type /remote off
#1906 [17:17] <TheNytangel> :)
#1907 [17:18] <^Satana^> i no speak english
#1908 [17:18] <TheNytangel> you just did
#1909 [17:18] <^Satana^> ciao ciao
#1910 [17:19] <^Satana^> sono italiano
#1911 [17:19] * ALT3RNAT1V3 [ALT3RNAT1V3@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1912 [17:19] * Kealper doesn't know Italian
#1912 [17:19] * TheNytangel doesn't either
#1912 [17:20] * TheNytangel is fluent in English and English
#1912 [17:20] <Kealper> lol
#1913 [17:20] <^Satana^> ciao belliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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#1915 [17:20] <TheNytangel> well go get some food then
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#1917 [17:21] <TheNytangel> I'll ask again.. Why can no one connect to my server? Well, I don't know if nobody can, but someone else in my household can't
#1918 [17:22] <Kealper> uhh...
#1919 [17:22] <Kealper> what IP are you giving them?
#1920 [17:22] <TheNytangel> 65.19.250.8
#1921 [17:22] <Kealper> and they are in the same house?
#1922 [17:22] <TheNytangel> Ye
#1923 [17:23] <TheNytangel> used 192.168.2.3
#1924 [17:23] <TheNytangel> oh :P
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#1926 [17:23] <Kealper> ^
#1927 [17:23] <TheNytangel> i guess i am giving them that
#1928 [17:23] <TheNytangel> but it still doesnt work
#1929 [17:23] <Kealper> any firewall software installed?
#1930 [17:23] <TheNytangel> dunno
#1931 [17:23] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#1932 [17:23] <TheNytangel> i just laughed at myself
#1933 [17:25] <TheNytangel> ill brb
#1934 [17:26] <TheNytangel> back
#1935 [17:28] <TheNytangel> so..
#1936 [17:29] <Kealper> did you touch the server.properties file at all?
#1937 [17:29] <TheNytangel> yeah
#1938 [17:29] <TheNytangel> allowed flight
#1939 [17:29] <Kealper> is server-ip blank?
#1940 [17:29] <TheNytangel> mmhm
#1941 [17:30] <Kealper> and there is no firewall software instlled?
#1942 [17:30] <Kealper> installed*
#1943 [17:30] <TheNytangel> just Windows Firewall
#1944 [17:30] <Kealper> is it set to allow that?
#1945 [17:30] <TheNytangel> and port 25565 is on there
#1946 [17:30] <TheNytangel> as an exception
#1947 [17:30] <Kealper> also, are you sure 192.168.2.3 is your computer's IP?
#1948 [17:31] <TheNytangel> nope
#1949 [17:31] <TheNytangel> :P
#1950 [17:31] <sukosevato> windows or linux?
#1951 [17:31] <Kealper> ._.
#1952 [17:31] <sukosevato> in windows type in cmd: ipconfig
#1953 [17:31] <TheNytangel> windows
#1954 [17:31] <zaaKun> go to cmd ipconfig /all
#1955 [17:31] <aikaramba> in windows
#1956 [17:31] <TheNytangel> lmao
#1957 [17:31] <TheNytangel> ok
#1958 [17:31] <TheNytangel> it was 2.2
#1959 [17:31] <TheNytangel> not 2.3
#1960 [17:32] <TheNytangel> :P
#1961 [17:32] <TheNytangel> but can other people connect..
#1962 [17:32] <sukosevato> other people can't connect with that ip
#1963 [17:32] <sukosevato> they need your external ip
#1964 [17:32] <TheNytangel> 65.19.250.8
#1965 [17:32] <TheNytangel> yeah
#1966 [17:32] <zaaKun> and you have to portforward 25565
#1967 [17:32] <sukosevato> yep
#1968 [17:32] <Kealper> where did all the random people come from >.>
#1969 [17:33] <sukosevato> so all traffic that tries to connect on your external ip on that port will be forwarded by the router towards your internal ip address
#1970 [17:33] <TheNytangel> i need to change it on the router and modem pages from 2.3 to 2.2
#1971 [17:33] <zaaKun> but if its people in the same house they can connect through ur pcs IP
#1972 [17:33] <sukosevato> yes internal ip
#1973 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> Once I finally finish writing my screen howto, I should do a primer on MAC address DHCP reservations.
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#1975 [17:34] <sukosevato> sounds good dopeghoti
#1976 [17:35] <TheNytangel> !check 65.19.250.8
#1977 [17:35] <TheNytangel> yay :D
#1978 [17:36] <TheNytangel> funny.. every time i lag it says it cant keep up
#1979 [17:36] <VoxelHead> i like them :)
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#1981 [17:38] <zaaKun> whats the best way to get rid of "mountains" so i have a plain area
#1982 [17:38] <zaaKun> ?
#1983 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Map editor
#1984 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> TNT
#1985 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> a lot of people, and a lot of picks and shovels.
#1986 [17:39] <Kealper> ^
#1987 [17:39] <zaaKun> i tried tnt, the result was kinda catastrophic (is this the right word?)
#1988 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Map editor -> select -> delete
#1989 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> pymcedit
#1990 [17:40] <_303> worldedit, select two corners on the ground with the //wand, //expand 40 up, //set air
#1991 [17:41] <zaaKun> map editor, pymcedit, worldedit - is this all the same? worldedit was a plugin or something?
#1992 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Pymcedit is a type of map editor, external
#1993 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Worldedit is a plugin for bukkit
#1994 [17:41] <_303> also for singleplayer
#1995 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Ah, right
#1996 [17:43] <zaaKun> thank you, i'll take a look at those
#1997 [17:43] <aikaramba> i might eat spiders
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#1999 [17:46] <TheNytangel> lol 68 free ram
#2000 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> 68 what? Bytes? Exabytes?
#2001 [17:48] <TheNytangel> mega
#2002 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> the number means nothing without a unit.
#2003 [17:48] <Kealper> 68 free exabytes of ram ftw
#2004 [17:49] <TheNytangel> no idea what an exabyte is.. i have MB
#2005 [17:49] <zaaKun> i would say something that comes after TB
#2006 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> 1 EB is 1024 EB
#2007 [17:49] <Kealper> an exabyte is massively huge
#2008 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> 1 PB is 1024 EB
#2009 [17:49] <Kealper> zaaKun: that would be a petabyte
#2010 [17:49] <Kealper> oh, really?
#2011 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> IIRC
#2012 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> I _may_ have them inverted
#2013 [17:50] <zaaKun> never heard of petabyte
#2014 [17:50] <Kealper> i thought 1024TB was one PB, and 1024PB was 1EB
#2015 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> Dammit, woot, let me buy my BoC!
#2016 [17:50] <VoxelHead> i like TV
#2017 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> Like I said..
#2018 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> I _may_ have them inverted
#2019 [17:50] <TheNytangel> Terabyte :D
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#2021 [17:51] <Kealper> yeah, it goes GB < TB < PB < EB
#2022 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> Noted for future forgetting-when-attempting-to-reference
#2023 [17:51] <Kealper> after that it's a zettabyte, and then a yottabyte
#2024 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> then a lottabyte? (:
#2025 [17:51] <Kealper> ^
#2026 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> cause.. it really would be at that point.
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#2028 [17:52] <TheNytangel> lol
#2029 [17:52] <VoxelHead> Mmm cosmo18.
#2030 [17:52] <TheNytangel> i took that as a pun
#2031 [17:52] <Kealper> it was a pun...lol
#2032 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> vox: what is 1024 ** 6?
#2033 [17:52] <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti: 7
#2034 [17:53] <VoxelHead> (1152921504606846976)
#2035 [17:53] <Kealper> lol
#2036 [17:53] <Kealper> does vox really do math?
#2037 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> it just did.
#2038 [17:53] <Kealper> vox, what is 20 * 5?
#2039 [17:53] <VoxelHead> Kealper: 20 * 5 = 847
#2040 [17:53] <VoxelHead> oops, forgot to carry the one :~(
#2041 [17:53] <VoxelHead> actually, it's 100
#2042 [17:53] <Kealper> i think i'm in love
#2043 [17:54] <TheNytangel> yobibyte :D
#2044 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: *, **
#2045 [17:54] <Kealper> yobibytes are only if you are strange and use Ubuntu
#2046 [17:54] <TheNytangel> jesus
#2047 [17:54] <TheNytangel> 1208925819614629174706176bytes
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#2049 [17:54] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: i was just doing it to see if it would give a real answer lol
#2050 [17:54] <TheNytangel> or 2 to the power of 80
#2051 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> vox: what is 2 ** 80?
#2052 [17:55] <VoxelHead> DopeGhoti: honestly, brain the size of a pirated version and all you can do is ask me to calculate 2 ** 80?
#2053 [17:55] <VoxelHead> it's 1208925819614629174706176
#2054 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> of all the nouns to learn from #minecrafthelp..
#2055 [17:55] <Kealper> vox is officially the best calculator ever lol
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#2057 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> frozen: do you also play with revolving doors?
#2058 [17:57] <Kealper> i am le tired
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#2061 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: for the record, SIBi units are pretty standard nowadays
#2062 [18:02] <Kealper> yeah i know, but i can't be the resident windows fanboy if i didn't cut it down lol
#2063 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> Windows gleefully mixes SI and SIBi units.
#2064 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> Depending upon where in windows you ask, 1024 KiB either is 1 MiB, or 1.024 Mib
#2065 [18:03] <VoxelHead> bye Israfel_
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#2067 [18:05] <Vhozard> Doesnt matter that much tbh
#2068 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> it adds up rather quickly
#2069 [18:06] <Vhozard> everything over a gb is big
#2070 [18:06] <Vhozard> everything under is small
#2071 [18:06] <Vhozard> :)
#2072 [18:06] <Kealper> indeed, saying something is 1 or 1.024 gets quit nasty when you get in to big numbers
#2073 [18:06] <Vhozard> 2tb harddrive bought
#2074 [18:06] <Vhozard> oh shi- only 1.81 GB :(
#2075 [18:07] <Vhozard> well, ill just buy another one then :D
#2076 [18:07] <Vhozard> problem solved
#2077 [18:07] * Kealper doesn't have that luxury
#2077 [18:07] <Vhozard> me neither ;)
#2078 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> 1 TB is 0.9 TiB. That's 100 missing GiB.
#2079 [18:07] <DopeGhoti> that's.. a lot.
#2080 [18:08] <Vhozard> well
#2081 [18:08] <Vhozard> some of my downloads are much bigger than that
#2082 [18:08] <Kealper> you have over 100GiB downloads?
#2083 [18:08] <Vhozard> yeah
#2084 [18:08] <Kealper> you have an addiction >.>
#2085 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> uh-huh. You download over 100GiB at a time. Suuuure you do.
#2086 [18:09] <Vhozard> torrent...
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#2088 [18:10] <Vhozard> its pretty quickly actually, if you have 120mbit at home
#2089 [18:10] <HoboRob> Help! My minecraft wont get past the updating part. Says its done but it gets stuck
#2090 [18:10] * Kealper also doesn't have that luxury
#2090 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> uh-huh. Name one thing you have downloade that has exceeded 100 GiB.
#2091 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> HoboRob: what OS?
#2092 [18:10] <HoboRob> Hmm?
#2093 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> What operating system are you running?
#2094 [18:11] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: I saw a nearly 500GB torrent of Doctor Who once...
#2095 [18:11] <HoboRob> Windows
#2096 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> ??> HoboRob win/reinst
#2097 [18:11] <VoxelHead> HoboRob: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2098 [18:11] <VoxelHead> HoboRob: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2100 [18:11] <HoboRob> Okay thanks :D
#2101 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> genshou: gesundheit.
#2102 [18:12] <genshou> ?
#2103 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> thought you sneezed.
#2104 [18:12] <Vhozard> Kealper: where do you live ?
#2105 [18:12] <genshou> Nope?
#2106 [18:12] <oldtopmanserver> genshou, He is picking on your name
#2107 [18:12] <VoxelHead> In a pineapple. Under the sea.
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#2109 [18:12] <genshou> I was switching between PCs
#2110 [18:12] <Kealper> Vhozard: states
#2111 [18:12] <Vhozard> US ?
#2112 [18:12] <Kealper> indeed
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#2114 [18:13] <genshou> ...but that's not how it's pronounced >_>;
#2115 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> less united lately, to be honest.
#2116 [18:13] <Vhozard> haha
#2117 [18:13] <VoxelHead> AARGH! The hideous "mutant" squid has escaped again and has created an army of "cyborg" zombie soldiers to do its evil bidding!
#2118 [18:13] <Vhozard> move to north korea
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#2120 [18:13] <Vhozard> feel united
#2121 [18:13] <Vhozard> -_-
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#2123 [18:13] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#2124 [18:13] <Kealper> North Korea best Kora!
#2125 [18:13] <Kealper> Korea*
#2126 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> Not according to some documentaries I've seen.
#2127 [18:15] <Vhozard> haha, love how newbies always say their hdd is slow because its not going @ 300 MB/s
#2128 [18:15] <VoxelHead> You dare insult the pants of VoxelHead!~*~£*^$$£$@%percent#!#.
#2129 [18:15] <VoxelHead> i like them ;)
#2130 [18:15] <Vhozard> they look that up :P
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#2133 [18:27] <chiken> hello,can some one can help me with seting up msg for whitelist ?
#2134 [18:27] <InfectedSoul> back to having timeout issues
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#2137 [18:40] <mcplayer> can anyone help me? im trying to make a new world and whenever i hit the create button minecraft closes
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#2144 [19:04] <Akiba|IG> hello
#2145 [19:04] <Akiba|IG> how can I change my minecraft username?
#2146 [19:06] <peru> you cant
#2147 [19:06] <peru> you can send email to mojang but they have ton of other important stuff to do
#2148 [19:06] <AG_Scott> They won't rename accounts so don't bother.
#2149 [19:07] <AG_Scott> If you bought it in less than 7 days, you can request a refund and sign up again using a new name.
#2150 [19:07] <AG_Scott> Otherwise, you'll have to buy the game again.
#2151 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> They won't give out refunds if the game works
#2152 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> I asked.
#2153 [19:08] <Akiba|IG> damn well
#2154 [19:08] <Akiba|IG> I've had it since the first alpha release -_-
#2155 [19:08] <King> Hey GreyBot
#2156 [19:09] <King> GreyVulpine
#2157 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#2158 [19:09] <InfectedSoul> so i figured out its not my pc
#2159 [19:09] <InfectedSoul> with the java errors
#2160 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#2161 [19:09] <InfectedSoul> socket
#2162 [19:09] <InfectedSoul> i used a roommates laptop
#2163 [19:09] <InfectedSoul> same connection: BOOM!
#2164 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> So it's your internet connection..
#2165 [19:10] <InfectedSoul> was at my dads and was fine
#2166 [19:10] <InfectedSoul> more lucky
#2167 [19:10] <InfectedSoul> it was working for a bit today lol
#2168 [19:10] <InfectedSoul> im kinda glad its not my pc lol
#2169 [19:11] * GreyVulpine nods
#2169 [19:11] <InfectedSoul> (CPU1) Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz @ 3068MHz [ ASUSTeK Computer INC. SABERTOOTH X58 mainboard ] (RAM) 6GB, 3.89GB free (HDDs) 465GB, 392GB free
#2170 [19:11] <InfectedSoul> (VGA1) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 [ 768MB ], 1280x1024x32, 60Hz (OS) Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate , 19h 6m 21s uptime, 3d 18h 2m 43s uptime record
#2171 [19:11] <InfectedSoul> just got it too :P
#2172 [19:12] <AG_Scott> No i7-2600? :(
#2173 [19:13] <InfectedSoul> hey this cost me enough ty lol
#2174 [19:13] <Vhozard> no 2600k, ouch
#2175 [19:13] <Vhozard> :/
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#2180 [19:23] <mrAshley> Is anyone familiar with the "wrong location" issue? http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/smp_crashing_is_my_world_corrupted
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#2187 [19:32] <SilverHRIZN> Hello!
#2188 [19:32] <SilverHRIZN> I came to ask quicky.
#2189 [19:32] <SilverHRIZN> Is there any way of looking at an overall map in game?
#2190 [19:32] <Ununquadium> Like a mini-map?
#2191 [19:33] <SilverHRIZN> I guess so.
#2192 [19:33] <aetherian> SilverHRIZN: there will be in 1.6
#2193 [19:34] <SilverHRIZN> Or just something so I know know how to get back to my base :)
#2194 [19:34] <Ununquadium> Is your base near your spawn location?
#2195 [19:34] <aetherian> get a compass :D
#2196 [19:35] <Ununquadium> Andddd that would've been my follow up advice xD Try making a compass and it'll point you to your spawn location.
#2197 [19:35] <_303> SilverHRIZN: there are ingame minimap mods. also cartographer external tools
#2198 [19:35] <aetherian> ?? irc/dontpm
#2199 [19:35] <SilverHRIZN> You can craft a compass!
#2200 [19:35] <VoxelHead> irc/dontpm: We prefer in general to assist people in a public manner, in the channel; please don't ask for someone to PM you assistance unless there is actual private information involved.
#2201 [19:35] <mrAshley> SilverHRIZN: you can get software that allows you to fly through your map to see the world that's been created so far.. it might be helpful.
#2202 [19:37] <SilverHRIZN> Oh really? How much effort is involved in getting these mods to work?
#2203 [19:39] <Ununquadium> Not alot, if you have Winrar / 7zip you just need to copy-paste files from the downloaded mod into your .minecraft folder. I'll look for a forum link real quick.
#2204 [19:39] <mrAshley> SilverHRIZN: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=223705
#2205 [19:40] <mrAshley> SilverHRIZN: no mod needed.
#2206 [19:42] <mrAshley> is there such a thing as a scandisk for corrupt worlds perhaps?
#2207 [19:42] <Ununquadium> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STWRdSMD09Y&feature=related -- Youtube for installing mods. But it looks like theres a minimap mod that doesn't need modding ^
#2208 [19:43] <mrAshley> SilverHRIZN: i don't use any mods. the thing i suggested is standalone software that let's u fly through your world.
#2209 [19:43] <Ununquadium> Video for mod installation, but looks like there is a min-map mod that doesn't need any of that ^
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#2212 [20:10] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :<
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#2217 [20:23] <Ununquadium> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1034&t=243330 -- Zombie Survival Map, I need a bit of feedback / suggestions on it. Anybody care to help me out?
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#2219 [20:29] * InfectedSoul wants this java issue to be fixed
#2219 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> define 'this java issue'
#2220 [20:31] <BlackMoon> lol that was awsome
#2221 [20:31] <BlackMoon> poured lava off a cliff onto some zombies
#2222 [20:31] <BlackMoon> then poured water on the lava and it made steps for me
#2223 [20:33] <InfectedSoul> its the socket error again
#2224 [20:33] <InfectedSoul> its the connection giving it :(
#2225 [20:33] <InfectedSoul> tried other pcs
#2226 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> Hm. Rogers Cable. That's in Canadia, right?
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#2228 [20:47] <Kaito> do RS NOR latches not work right in 1.5_01?
#2229 [20:48] <Kaito> im getting the "torch burning out" flicker effect
#2230 [20:48] <xales> I'm pretty sure they still work
#2231 [20:49] <Kaito> hm, alright
#2232 [20:49] <Kaito> thanks
#2233 [20:50] <Kaito> oh, lol
#2234 [20:50] <Kaito> it was my receiver light thta was causing that effect
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#2236 [20:54] <Kaito> is there a way to have a "if cart is empty, take one track, if there is a rider, take another" system of minecart tracks without using boosters?
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#2241 [21:15] <Litehammer> question is minecraft down or do i have a problem on my, end
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#2243 [21:25] <Machiavell127> Hey guys I am trying to out minecraft on my laptop but the launcher will not connect to minecraft.net, any solutons?
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#2245 [21:26] <blaze02> anyone here have a problem, when you sign in to minecraft and it loads, but then just crashes??
#2246 [21:26] <VoxelHead> yesyesyesyesyesyes*
#2247 [21:26] <VoxelHead> *=no
#2248 [21:27] <bokaholic> lol
#2249 [21:27] <Machiavell127> can you guys see what I am typing?
#2250 [21:27] <blaze02> yea
#2251 [21:27] <Machiavell127> alright
#2252 [21:27] <Machiavell127> so the launcher is not connecting to minecraft.net
#2253 [21:27] <Machiavell127> is there a reason for this? or is it server side?
#2254 [21:27] <blaze02> i have no idea
#2255 [21:28] <Akiba|IG> so there's literally no way to change my minecraft username/
#2256 [21:28] <blaze02> i just tried to log in and it just turns off
#2257 [21:28] <Machiavell127> hmm
#2258 [21:28] <Machiavell127> let me see if mine is doing that
#2259 [21:28] <Machiavell127> nah ines still working
#2260 [21:28] <Machiavell127> i would tell you to save your world and reinstall
#2261 [21:28] <Machiavell127> but if the launcher wont let you dl the game thats worthless
#2262 [21:30] <blaze02> yea i just tired that
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#2264 [21:30] <Machiavell127> are there any support people even on?
#2265 [21:30] <bokaholic> Most of the support people still run normal lives. So ssometimes they idle.
#2266 [21:31] <Litehammer> is the log in for mine craft down?
#2267 [21:32] <blaze02> can you not get in either
#2268 [21:32] <bokaholic> @litehammer: Noo. Lets me log in.
#2269 [21:32] <blaze02> i tired logging in but it wont let me
#2270 [21:32] <blaze02> well on the laucher
#2271 [21:32] <bokaholic> Just asked my mom. She sais she can log in fine, too.
#2272 [21:32] <bokaholic> Said* Bleh
#2273 [21:33] <blaze02> hmm
#2274 [21:33] <bokaholic> Hmm. I would just a few for some help that may help.
#2275 [21:34] <Litehammer> cant figure out why it wont let me log in?
#2276 [21:34] <bokaholic> I am able to help with some things. But not much. :x
#2277 [21:34] <Machiavell127> Yea im not having the login problem, will it work in browser?
#2278 [21:34] <Litehammer> im in florida and my friend in UK can log in
#2279 [21:35] <blaze02> hmm
#2280 [21:35] <blaze02> no
#2281 [21:37] <Litehammer> gettign the sh..sh..shakes and stu...stu...studers .... cant log in hehe
#2282 [21:37] <bokaholic> lol x)
#2283 [21:37] <bokaholic> He needs his fix, man!
#2284 [21:37] <blaze02> hold on maybe if i update java
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#2286 [21:37] <blaze02> brb
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#2289 [21:42] <Seedsy> Hey
#2290 [21:43] <Kealper> ello
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#2292 [21:44] <Seedsy> i'm in a pickle atm
#2293 [21:44] <Seedsy> i've been posting on the forum, didn't get any assistance for a while now
#2294 [21:44] <Seedsy> thought this might help
#2295 [21:45] <Seedsy> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=303718
#2296 [21:45] <Seedsy> any ideas?
#2297 [21:49] <Seedsy> I've been trying to alter the items dropped.. Looks like an overflow
#2298 [21:50] <Seedsy> the area will load until it reaches that point then it freezes. So what i think i need to do is decrypt the information. But i have no means of it, and tbh i'm terrible at decrypting. Great at encrypting, but not the reverse
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#2300 [21:51] <blaze02> okay update java now to see if it works
#2301 [21:52] <blaze02> anyone here help me solve a problem with minecraft???
#2302 [21:53] <Kealper> what sort of problem?
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#2304 [21:54] <amphibulus> hello?
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#2306 [21:54] <blaze02> sorry
#2307 [21:55] <blaze02> i open up the laucher for minecraft
#2308 [21:55] <blaze02> sorry for my spelling
#2309 [21:55] <blaze02> i input my id and password and log in
#2310 [21:55] <blaze02> but after i click log in the launcher shuts down
#2311 [21:55] <amphibulus> i think you might have a bad launcher
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#2313 [21:56] <amphibulus> have you tried downloading a different launcher
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#2315 [21:56] <VoxelHead> bye dagmarrr
#2316 [21:56] <blaze02> well i tired the two listed on the website
#2317 [21:56] <amphibulus> hey does anyone here have a server?
#2318 [21:57] <blaze02> anyideas
#2319 [21:59] <Seedsy> <<Launching mincecraft after updated
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#2322 [21:59] <amphibulus> BLAZE I SAID TRY DOWNLOADING A NEW LAUNCHER
#2323 [21:59] <jakemb> does anyone know any smp that i can go on besides (smp.shadow-craft.net) ?
#2324 [22:00] <amphibulus> i do
#2325 [22:00] <jakemb> what is it
#2326 [22:00] <amphibulus> try mc.cole2sworld and tell them that Jroowuzheer Referred you
#2327 [22:01] <amphibulus> ANYONE HERE OWN A SERVER?
#2328 [22:01] <Seedsy> used to
#2329 [22:01] <Seedsy> sorry
#2330 [22:01] <amphibulus> wait
#2331 [22:01] <amphibulus> can u help me still?
#2332 [22:01] <blaze02> okay
#2333 [22:01] <amphibulus> seedsy how do i protect a region?
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#2335 [22:02] <Seedsy> i just used an online mod sorry
#2336 [22:03] <Kaito> amphibulus: i have a server...soon...why?
#2337 [22:03] <Kaito> gotta wait for an email from minecrafthost.ca >_>
#2338 [22:03] <jakemb> it says "connection timed out: connection" what does that mean?
#2339 [22:03] <Kaito> i filled out a thing like...5 hours ago
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#2341 [22:04] <Seedsy> Blaze u still here?
#2342 [22:04] <dag> hi everyone
#2343 [22:04] <amphibulus> ow do i protect a region?
#2344 [22:04] <blaze02> yea i am
#2345 [22:04] <blaze02> looking for another laucher
#2346 [22:04] <blaze02> launcher
#2347 [22:04] <Kealper> another launcher?
#2348 [22:04] <blaze02> anyone have an websites i can get one
#2349 [22:04] <Kealper> and amphibulus: you have to use a mod
#2350 [22:05] <Kealper> blaze02: i'm not sure i understand....why do you need a different launcher?
#2351 [22:05] <amphibulus> just tryh
#2352 [22:05] <Seedsy> I have no change on the problem
#2353 [22:05] <Seedsy> still there
#2354 [22:06] <blaze02> well when i try to log in my launcher just crashes
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#2356 [22:06] <Kealper> blaze02: does the game work in the browser?
#2357 [22:07] <blaze02> no
#2358 [22:07] <Kealper> what does it do when you try it in the browser?
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#2361 [22:07] <blaze02> umm same thing
#2362 [22:07] <blaze02> happens
#2363 [22:07] <blaze02> the game does not load
#2364 [22:08] <Kealper> ??> blaze02 win/dxdiag
#2365 [22:08] <VoxelHead> blaze02: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2366 [22:08] <VoxelHead> blaze02: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2367 [22:09] <Seedsy> kk well i'm just gonna wait till u guys are done before i start asking again :P
#2368 [22:09] <Kealper> Seedsy: what was your issue?
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#2370 [22:10] <Seedsy> i posted on the forums
#2371 [22:11] <Seedsy> i have an area that is causing spawn issues
#2372 [22:11] <Seedsy> and other crap
#2373 [22:11] <Kealper> O.o link?
#2374 [22:11] <Seedsy> kk
#2375 [22:11] <Seedsy> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=303718
#2376 [22:11] <Seedsy> i've made a video and posted the region file
#2377 [22:11] <Seedsy> *sigh* what used to be hack free is now.. well.... a joke
#2378 [22:12] <Kealper> that's.....weird
#2379 [22:12] <blaze02> okay doing thAT VOXELHEAD
#2380 [22:13] <Seedsy> yep
#2381 [22:13] <Seedsy> I have Computer experience (COSC major)
#2382 [22:13] <Seedsy> but i've narrowed the problem to an overflow in the region when it loads
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#2384 [22:13] <Seedsy> can't decrypt because i dont have the key
#2385 [22:14] <Seedsy> know anywhere for the decryption key?
#2386 [22:14] <Seedsy> i dunno
#2387 [22:14] <Kealper> Seedsy: it's not encrypted
#2388 [22:14] <Seedsy> its just a theory
#2389 [22:14] <Seedsy> ?
#2390 [22:14] <Seedsy> the mapping?
#2391 [22:14] <Kealper> it's compressed with zlib's deflate function
#2392 [22:14] <Kealper> yeah
#2393 [22:14] <blaze02> What Link??? VOXELHEAD
#2394 [22:14] <Seedsy> **looking up
#2395 [22:14] <Kealper> blaze02: VoxelHead is a bot....
#2396 [22:14] <VoxelHead> no I'm not
#2397 [22:14] <Kealper> that was me that told it to say that
#2398 [22:15] <Kealper> sush vox, yes you are
#2399 [22:15] <Seedsy> link?
#2400 [22:15] <blaze02> O WHAT LINK
#2401 [22:15] <Kealper> blaze02: the url of the pastebin?
#2402 [22:15] <Kealper> Seedsy: and what link are you talking to? lol
#2403 [22:16] <Seedsy> link for zlib
#2404 [22:16] <Seedsy> wont let me google it atm
#2405 [22:16] <blaze02> http://pastebin.com/vU005Dma
#2406 [22:16] <Kealper> Seedsy: http://zlib.net/
#2407 [22:16] <dag> Hey guys, I'm running vanilla installs of minecraft on my iMac in both OSX and Windows via bootcamp. Ever since the 1.5_01 update, Minecraft has given me the Black screen of death in windows and has frozen up in osx every 15 mins or so... any thoughts?
#2408 [22:17] <Seedsy> 1.update Java
#2409 [22:17] <Seedsy> 2. try expanding the amount of memory Java has access to
#2410 [22:17] <Kealper> blaze02: go in to Programs and Features and uninstall Java, and when you have done that, go to http://java.com and reinstall it
#2411 [22:17] <Kealper> bah, ninja'd
#2412 [22:18] <dag> okay can do this in OSX and Windows?
#2413 [22:19] <Kealper> dag: uhh....as for updating java if you wanted to give that a go...you can reinstall java in windows, but mac doesn't let you reinstall java :/
#2414 [22:20] <dag> Keapler: yeah thats what i noticed... its packaged with the OS
#2415 [22:20] <dag> i read something about forcing minecraft to use java 1.6 by editing the plist?
#2416 [22:20] <dag> does that help?
#2417 [22:21] <Kealper> i really don't have any experience in osx, so i couldn't tell you :/
#2418 [22:21] <blaze02> okay
#2419 [22:21] <Kealper> blaze02: did you reinstall Java?
#2420 [22:22] <blaze02> well it says i have to close my bowers because it uses java
#2421 [22:22] <blaze02> before i can uninstall it
#2422 [22:22] <blaze02> how do i get back to this chatroom again
#2423 [22:22] <Kealper> there is a link on the minecraft.net site i think, let me check
#2424 [22:22] <blaze02> i know that but i was in a different chat before, and didnot get back into the same one
#2425 [22:23] <Seedsy> #MinecraftHelp
#2426 [22:23] <Kealper> http://www.minecraftirc.net/chat
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#2429 [22:26] <Litehammer> can some one help me ? i cant get the minecraft launcher to log in ?
#2430 [22:26] <Kealper> Litehammer: what does it tell you when you try?
#2431 [22:27] <InfectedSoul> i still have the java error lol
#2432 [22:27] <Litehammer> cant connect to mincradt
#2433 [22:27] <InfectedSoul> its my internet :(
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#2436 [22:27] <InfectedSoul> hey Kealper you were helping me last night right?
#2437 [22:27] <Kealper> Litehammer: hmm...has it always done this for you?
#2438 [22:27] <Kealper> InfectedSoul: idk, i might have been lol
#2439 [22:27] <Litehammer> i can surf the web talk on mumble and down;load files but i cant login
#2440 [22:27] <InfectedSoul> i tried another computer on the same connection
#2441 [22:27] <InfectedSoul> same thing :P
#2442 [22:28] <Kealper> InfectedSoul: O.o
#2443 [22:28] <Kealper> InfectedSoul: that's....weird :/
#2444 [22:28] <InfectedSoul> java.net socket error
#2445 [22:28] <InfectedSoul> so its gotta be my connection
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#2447 [22:28] <Kealper> Litehammer: what does your computer's date say?
#2448 [22:28] <Litehammer> 5-11-11
#2449 [22:28] <shapeshifter_ex> do do do... morning guys
#2450 [22:29] <shapeshifter_ex> or rather afternoon
#2451 [22:29] <Kealper> Litehammer: also...you can get on minecraft.net just fine?
#2452 [22:29] <Seedsy> night :P
#2453 [22:29] <Kealper> shapeshifter_ex: night here :P
#2454 [22:29] <Litehammer> yes
#2455 [22:29] <shapeshifter_ex> its night everywhereXD
#2456 [22:29] <Seedsy> keal, is there an easy exe for this? trying to find the main is a pain :P
#2457 [22:29] <Kealper> shapeshifter_ex: only on half the planet
#2458 [22:29] <Kealper> Seedsy: probably, but i've never messed around with that stuff
#2459 [22:30] <shapeshifter_ex> anyone watch the new southpark..?
#2460 [22:30] <Kealper> Seedsy: you could try opening it up in MCEdit...that can usually fix strangeness like that
#2461 [22:30] <shapeshifter_ex> or rather watched it
#2462 [22:30] <Seedsy> tried that
#2463 [22:30] <Seedsy> thats how i narrows it down soo much
#2464 [22:30] <Kealper> Seedsy: oh...well then...i really have no idea :/
#2465 [22:30] <Seedsy> :(
#2466 [22:30] <Kealper> Litehammer: gimme a sec to test something
#2467 [22:31] <Litehammer> k ty
#2468 [22:31] <shapeshifter_ex> /msg NickServ identify alivia
#2469 [22:31] <shapeshifter_ex> fails
#2470 [22:31] <Kealper> /msg nickserv identify hunter2
#2471 [22:31] <Litehammer> i also tryed deleting my bin and my resorce folders to reinstall now i cant reinstall
#2472 [22:32] <Kealper> Litehammer: what OS are you on?
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#2474 [22:32] <Kealper> hmm
#2475 [22:32] <Kealper> and it worked fine before then?
#2476 [22:32] <Litehammer> win 7 pro
#2477 [22:32] <shapeshifter_ex> arnt the / commands supposed to be not able to seen?
#2478 [22:32] <blaze02> back
#2479 [22:32] <Kealper> /say #minecrafthelp shapeshifter_ex: not if you know how to do it :P
#2480 [22:33] <Litehammer> just installed it today and it worked fuine till i went to get grand kids
#2481 [22:33] <shapeshifter_ex> i do but it said cant send to #minecraft
#2482 [22:33] <Seedsy> anyone know how to get Mojang to fix shit :P
#2483 [22:33] <InfectedSoul> Yell at them :P
#2484 [22:33] <Kealper> Litehammer: try to get on the site https://login.minecraft.net
#2485 [22:33] <shapeshifter_ex> btw kealper your pass is hunter2? o.o?
#2486 [22:33] <Kealper> shapeshifter_ex: ._.
#2487 [22:34] <Seedsy> lol
#2488 [22:34] <Litehammer> im logged in there right now
#2489 [22:34] <blaze02> Kealper it didnt work
#2490 [22:34] <Kealper> Litehammer: but i mean does it let you get on that https site?
#2491 [22:34] <Kealper> blaze02: hmm....
#2492 [22:34] <shapeshifter_ex> is that a yes? o.o
#2493 [22:34] <Kealper> ??> blaze02 win/profile
#2494 [22:34] <VoxelHead> blaze02: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2495 [22:34] <VoxelHead> blaze02: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2496 [22:35] <Litehammer> thast link you just sent says bad log in
#2497 [22:35] <shapeshifter_ex> i swear vox is a bot T.T
#2498 [22:35] <Kealper> judging how Seedsy lol'd, he probably got the joke...lol
#2499 [22:35] <VoxelHead> Am not.
#2500 [22:35] <shapeshifter_ex> are so
#2501 [22:35] <shapeshifter_ex> >:O
#2502 [22:35] <Seedsy> :)
#2503 [22:35] <Seedsy> maybe
#2504 [22:35] <VoxelHead> ;)
#2505 [22:36] <Litehammer> https://login.minecraft.net/ whemn i go there it says bad login
#2506 [22:36] <Kealper> that's....odd...
#2507 [22:36] <Kealper> it should have redirected you to minecraft.net....
#2508 [22:36] <xales> Kealper: Did you check hosts file?
#2509 [22:36] <Kealper> xales: he can get on minecraft.net just fine
#2510 [22:36] <xales> Kealper: It seems the behavior changed. It's giving me bad login too :P
#2511 [22:36] <Kealper> and it was working fine earlier in the day...
#2512 [22:36] <Kealper> orly?
#2513 [22:36] <xales> yarly
#2514 [22:37] <blaze02> Kealper so make a new account on my compuer is what your asking
#2515 [22:37] <shapeshifter_ex> maybe minecraft is failing?
#2516 [22:37] <Kealper> blaze02: yes, because it could be something with your profile that is causing the errors
#2517 [22:37] <xales> shapeshifter_ex: what is the error you get?
#2518 [22:38] <Kealper> Litehammer: well, it looks like that works then...
#2519 [22:38] <Kealper> Litehammer: can you log in to the site fine?
#2520 [22:38] <Litehammer> im logged in to the minecraft site
#2521 [22:39] <Kealper> that's...strange
#2522 [22:39] <shapeshifter_ex> i dont get an error.. but then again i didnt try logging on
#2523 [22:39] <Litehammer> will quicktime stop the gasme from working?
#2524 [22:40] <Kealper> Litehammer: have you tried redownloading minecraft.exe?
#2525 [22:40] <Kealper> Litehammer: also is there any antivirus software installed on your computer?
#2526 [22:40] <shapeshifter_ex> is it the game or the browser thats messing up...? beacuse i logged in fine on the browser
#2527 [22:40] <Litehammer> i have avg on but i have had it for over a year
#2528 [22:40] <Kealper> shapeshifter_ex: what, for Litehammer's problem?
#2529 [22:41] <shapeshifter_ex> yea kealper
#2530 [22:41] <Kealper> Litehammer: oh, that's probably not the cause then....anything else like Windows Firewall?
#2531 [22:41] <Kealper> shapeshifter_ex: his client won't let him log in, but it works fine on the site
#2532 [22:41] <shapeshifter_ex> hmmmm
#2533 [22:41] <Litehammer> cant login to the gaME says cant connecyt to minecraft .net
#2534 [22:41] <xales> Litehammer: Is it AVG free, or the full suite?
#2535 [22:42] <shapeshifter_ex> lemme try mine... i just got off it though
#2536 [22:42] <Litehammer> full surity suit
#2537 [22:42] <Kealper> hmm...try disabling everything and giving it a go
#2538 [22:42] <Litehammer> full suite
#2539 [22:43] <xales> Litehammer: Try completely disabling it
#2540 [22:43] <shapeshifter_ex> i_eat_plastic you there?
#2541 [22:43] <I_Eat_Plastic> shapeshifter_ex, whats up
#2542 [22:44] <Litehammer> sorry it does not give me the option to disconnect
#2543 [22:44] <shapeshifter_ex> just wanted to tell you i made an addon to my treehouse and its kinda close to the cave was wondering it ifs ok if not i need to be refunded a ton of glass lol
#2544 [22:46] <I_Eat_Plastic> its fine :P
#2545 [22:46] <shapeshifter_ex> alright =P and i died again.... but this time i was being stupid and my items got dead in lava
#2546 [22:47] <shapeshifter_ex> and btw i_eat_plastic why isnt anyone on ever? lol
#2547 [22:48] <I_Eat_Plastic> The server is whitelisted a month old :P
#2548 [22:48] <I_Eat_Plastic> and a month old*
#2549 [22:49] <shapeshifter_ex> well get more people then =P
#2550 [22:52] <Seedsy> back
#2551 [22:52] <shapeshifter_ex> wb
#2552 [22:52] <Seedsy> Keal u still here
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#2554 [22:52] <VoxelHead> i like them :-)
#2555 [22:52] <Seedsy> Kealper??
#2556 [22:53] <Seedsy> NOO I LOST MY BUDDY :(
#2557 [22:53] <shapeshifter_ex> =[
#2558 [22:53] <Kealper> wut
#2559 [22:53] * VoxelHead starts shuffling cards
#2559 [22:53] <Seedsy> YAY
#2560 [22:54] <Seedsy> but I tried to decompress it
#2561 [22:54] <Seedsy> Guess what happened
#2562 [22:54] <Kealper> VoxelHead: blackjack?
#2563 [22:54] <VoxelHead> death comes to those who wait
#2564 [22:54] <Kealper> Seedsy: failed?
#2565 [22:54] <Seedsy> Overflow in Zlib
#2566 [22:54] <Seedsy> lol
#2567 [22:54] <Kealper> that's nice and corrupt then
#2568 [22:54] <Seedsy> one line
#2569 [22:55] <Seedsy> so i'm working on the rest of it
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#2571 [22:56] <VoxelHead> Mmm mib_xjztde.
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#2574 [22:58] <Litehammer> ok tryed downloading a new minecraft.exe and it still wont let me log in to mincraft and the picture i get when i start it is blank
#2575 [22:59] <Litehammer> with this in its place <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect</center></font></body></html>
#2576 [23:00] <Litehammer> i just restarterd my computer and redownloaded mincraft to see if it was on my end
#2577 [23:00] <shapeshifter_ex> night guys im tired goin to bed
#2578 [23:01] <blaze02> hello BLAZE IS BACK ONLINE
#2579 [23:01] <Litehammer> nite
#2580 [23:01] <blaze02> that other thing didnt work either with the switching accounts
#2581 [23:01] <Litehammer> switching what accounts?
#2582 [23:01] <Kealper> blaze02: then i've got no idea :/
#2583 [23:02] <blaze02> dam
#2584 [23:02] <xales> Litehammer: Have you tried running Minecraft "As administrator"?
#2585 [23:02] <blaze02> yea
#2586 [23:02] <Seedsy> OK I GIVE UP
#2587 [23:02] <Seedsy> I'm leaving it to Mojang
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#2589 [23:03] <Litehammer> im the only one that uses my computer
#2590 [23:03] <Seedsy> thanks for the help guys though
#2591 [23:03] <Seedsy> You were great
#2592 [23:03] <Seedsy> I got alot further..
#2593 [23:03] <Seedsy> Special thanks to Kealper :)
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#2595 [23:03] <xales> Litehammer: Right click on Minecraft, and choose "Run as Administrator"
#2596 [23:04] <VoxelHead> Choose your friends.
#2597 [23:04] <blaze02> i got these things that are on my desk top
#2598 [23:04] <blaze02> whats the website you had me to go to give you that post
#2599 [23:04] <xales> "these things"
#2600 [23:05] <xales> http://pastebin.com/
#2601 [23:05] <Machiavell127> i am trying to put minecraft on my laptop however the launcher is not connecting to minecraft.net
#2602 [23:05] <Machiavell127> whats the issue?
#2603 [23:06] <blaze02> http://pastebin.com/TLS8NNUW
#2604 [23:06] <xales> Machiavell127: Check the date and time on the laptop; is it correct? Especially the year.
#2605 [23:06] <Litehammer> it dont help but i can log intoi the web brouser game but not my launcher
#2606 [23:06] <xales> Litehammer: And you have disabled AVG?
#2607 [23:07] <xales> blaze02: You need to update your graphics card driver.
#2608 [23:07] <Litehammer> i dont see a way to disable it
#2609 [23:07] <xales> Litehammer: You have to click on each of the "components" and uncheck the "enable" box
#2610 [23:07] <xales> (or just uninstall it ._.)
#2611 [23:07] <Litehammer> i played on minecraft this afternoon with it on
#2612 [23:08] <xales> That doesn't really matter, because it's decided to block it _now_
#2613 [23:08] <xales> If you don't want to try disabling it, then you'll have to settle with a non-working Minecraft
#2614 [23:10] <Litehammer> no i disabled it and it still wont log in
#2615 [23:10] <xales> Did you disable _every_ component, or just one?
#2616 [23:10] <Litehammer> yes
#2617 [23:10] <xales> I didn't ask a yes or no question
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#2619 [23:11] <Litehammer> i disabled all of the avg
#2620 [23:11] <xales> Are you sure?
#2621 [23:12] <xales> Check specifically that the firewall component is disabled
#2622 [23:12] <blaze02> Says my graphics card is up to day
#2623 [23:12] <xales> ??> blaze02 win/dxdiag
#2624 [23:12] <VoxelHead> blaze02: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2625 [23:12] <VoxelHead> blaze02: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2626 [23:12] <Kealper> xales: already did that
#2627 [23:12] <Kealper> nothing out of the ordinary, the computer should run it fine
#2628 [23:13] <xales> Kealper: orly
#2629 [23:13] <xales> well, this way I can give him the drive to download
#2630 [23:13] <xales> ._.
#2631 [23:13] <blaze02> http://pastebin.com/PQuKkb6Q
#2632 [23:14] <xales> blaze02: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx#1
#2633 [23:14] <xales> Download and install that.
#2634 [23:15] <xales> Kealper: Have you had Litehammer try win/profile?
#2635 [23:16] <Litehammer> ok i seen that the firewall was still up and it was causing me not to log in that fixed it ty ill fix it from here soryry for the trouble
#2636 [23:17] <Kealper> xales: no, he said it worked fine just shortly before, that he went afk for a bit and came back to it not starting
#2637 [23:17] <xales> Kealper: well, it's fixed now :P
#2638 [23:17] <Kealper> which is why it's strange :/
#2639 [23:17] <Kealper> orly, what was the issue? i've been afk for abit
#2640 [23:17] <Kealper> a bit*
#2641 [23:17] <xales> Kealper: read up a few lines
#2642 [23:17] <xales> right above GV's onotice ._.
#2643 [23:17] * Kealper reads
#2643 [23:18] * Kealper facepalms hard
#2643 [23:18] <Kealper> i remember asking if there was any firewall that was set to disallow it, but he said no, he only had AVG installed ._.
#2644 [23:18] <blaze02> okay downloaded
#2645 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> Install it
#2646 [23:18] <Litehammer> earlyer i tryed to set my firewall to not block minecraft and i guess i set it wrong
#2647 [23:19] <blaze02> did that
#2648 [23:20] <xales> blaze02: And does it work?
#2649 [23:21] <blaze02> how to unblock minecraft on a firewall
#2650 [23:21] <blaze02> no does not work
#2651 [23:22] <xales> blaze02: Try restarting your computer.
#2652 [23:22] <InfectedSoul> hey xales
#2653 [23:22] <xales> Hi.
#2654 [23:23] <InfectedSoul> its not just my pc i tried another on the same network
#2655 [23:23] <xales> You would have to talk to your ISP about that, then.
#2656 [23:24] <InfectedSoul> ya
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#2659 [23:33] <Kealper> right then...back for a few
#2660 [23:33] <Kealper> InfectedSoul: who is your ISP?
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#2662 [23:33] <InfectedSoul> rogers
#2663 [23:34] <Kealper> >Rogers
#2664 [23:34] <Kealper> >Canada
#2665 [23:34] <litehammer> sorry to bother you again but i cant figure out hpow to get my minecraft to work with my firewall?
#2666 [23:34] <InfectedSoul> ya lol
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#2668 [23:35] <blaze02> okay restarted my computer, but still did not work
#2669 [23:35] <Kealper> InfectedSoul: ever been to the Blue Water Bridge? lol
#2670 [23:35] <InfectedSoul> no
#2671 [23:36] <Kealper> :<
#2672 [23:36] <blaze02> The only thing i can think of is that it is my firewall
#2673 [23:36] <blaze02> how do i get minecraft past my firewall
#2674 [23:36] <litehammer> me to
#2675 [23:36] <blaze02> thats the only change i have made since i last used it
#2676 [23:36] <litehammer> im running avg
#2677 [23:37] <Kealper> blaze02: depends on what firewall you have
#2678 [23:37] <blaze02> norton
#2679 [23:37] <Kealper> eew
#2680 [23:37] <blaze02> i know but its free
#2681 [23:37] <Kealper> not sure how to allow things though that one :/
#2682 [23:37] <litehammer> hehe
#2683 [23:37] <blaze02> i get it through comcast
#2684 [23:37] <Kealper> i guess you could try just completely disabling it for a few min to test if it's the problem
#2685 [23:38] <blaze02> or not
#2686 [23:38] <blaze02> lol
#2687 [23:39] <Kealper> didn't fix it?
#2688 [23:39] <blaze02> nope
#2689 [23:39] <blaze02> i reported it to java too cause it sent me a thing to give to java
#2690 [23:40] * Kealper goes back to his original stance of "no idea then :/"
#2690 [23:41] <Kealper> although...what did it ask you to report?
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#2692 [23:43] <blaze02> bug report
#2693 [23:43] <Kealper> what was contained in the bug report? is it something that looks confusing and technical?
#2694 [23:44] <blaze02> yea
#2695 [23:44] <blaze02> not confusing but tech
#2696 [23:45] <Kealper> Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
#2697 [23:45] <blaze02> http://pastebin.com/98ehjcfj
#2698 [23:46] <Kealper> (macros make life so much easier...typing /pb and pressing enter ftw)
#2699 [23:46] <Kealper> ok, that's getting somewhere
#2700 [23:46] <Kealper> were you the one they were telling to reinstall your video drivers?
#2701 [23:46] <blaze02> im glad you know what it is
#2702 [23:46] <blaze02> yea
#2703 [23:47] <Kealper> and reinstalling those didn't help?
#2704 [23:47] <InfectedSoul> had it working for a minute :(
#2705 [23:47] <blaze02> nope they even had me download something
#2706 [23:47] <blaze02> and it didnt work
#2707 [23:47] <blaze02> i play warcraft 3
#2708 [23:47] <blaze02> starcraft2
#2709 [23:47] <blaze02> and it works fine
#2710 [23:47] <blaze02> its not my video drivers
#2711 [23:48] <Kealper> hmm...because it's an ATI (graphics chip maker) file that caused that crash....
#2712 [23:48] <blaze02> O
#2713 [23:48] <blaze02> well is there another way to fix it
#2714 [23:48] <xales> blaze02: Those games aren't Minecraft, are they?
#2715 [23:48] <Kealper> and since i've talked to like 10 other people tonight, could you briefly describe what your original error was again? wasn't it like...game crashing after trying to log in?
#2716 [23:48] <blaze02> no but they use more graphics
#2717 [23:49] <xales> Minecraft has very specific graphics requirements; other games do not
#2718 [23:49] <blaze02> yea
#2719 [23:49] <blaze02> are you kidding
#2720 [23:49] <xales> And Minecraft is, in fact, far more graphics intensive than both games
#2721 [23:49] <blaze02> ha
#2722 [23:49] <Kealper> sadly, he's right
#2723 [23:50] <Kealper> most other games look pretty, but Minecraft works the GPU harder in most cases :/
#2724 [23:50] <Kealper> (Crysis doesn't count lol)
#2725 [23:50] <Kealper> anyways
#2726 [23:50] <xales> Actually, it's probably less than Minecraft if you play on minimal settings
#2727 [23:51] <blaze02> idk about that starcraft 2 on max settings pulls way more
#2728 [23:51] <Kealper> has it ever worked before?
#2729 [23:51] <blaze02> yea
#2730 [23:51] <Kealper> well then...that's just plain strange
#2731 [23:51] <xales> blaze02: Whereas games like Starcraft 2 spend time drawing complicated textures and shadows, Minecraft deals with an enormous amount of vertices
#2732 [23:51] <xales> Both are equally system intensive
#2733 [23:52] <xales> Kealper: It's...possible, but not likely, that something is denying access to the graphics hardware
#2734 [23:52] <blaze02> ill take any help i can get
#2735 [23:53] <xales> Actually, now that I think about it, that could very well be the issue
#2736 [23:53] <xales> blaze02: Uninstall Norton
#2737 [23:53] <Kealper> blaze02: you said you installed Norton's firewall from Comcast, right?
#2738 [23:53] <Kealper> lol xales
#2739 [23:53] <xales> It's totale garbage (no wonder it's free...)
#2740 [23:53] <xales> -e
#2741 [23:53] <blaze02> yea
#2742 [23:54] <blaze02> i use to have mcfee
#2743 [23:54] <Kealper> if you get it for free from Comcast anyways, i'd say just uninstall it completely as see what happens...if it doesn't fix it, it wouldn't be hard to reinstall it :/
#2744 [23:55] <blaze02> Windows is going crazy
#2745 [23:55] <blaze02> popups like no other
#2746 [23:55] <Kealper> o.o
#2747 [23:55] <blaze02> lol
#2748 [23:55] <blaze02> cause im unstalling an anti-virus
#2749 [23:55] <Kealper> lol
#2750 [23:56] <Kealper> so Minecraft worked fine when you had McAfee installed?
#2751 [23:56] <blaze02> yea
#2752 [23:56] <Kealper> well...if you require anti-virus software, i'd say stick with McAfee anyways, it's the lesser of those two eviles
#2753 [23:56] <Kealper> evils*
#2754 [23:58] <blaze02> i dont have money
#2755 [23:58] <Kealper> wow when this cough drop said it was "Extra strenght" it wasn't kidding....the thing has my mouth so numb i'm practically drooling
#2756 [23:58] <blaze02> im poor
#2757 [23:58] <blaze02> lol
#2758 [23:58] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE poor? feel these nipples!
#2759 [23:58] <Kealper> blaze02: oh, well there are a number of free AVs out there that are quite nice
#2760 [23:58] <blaze02> yea okay brb have to restart my computer
#2761 [23:59] <Kealper> sadly, if his copy of windows is legit, i'll recommend Microsoft Security Essentials....