#1 [00:00] <Kealper> it integrates with the os quite well, and it is actually pretty good at catching stuff...and it's free for legit windows :/
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#4 [00:01] <xales> Kealper: It's free for non-legit windows as well? :P
#5 [00:02] <Kealper> yeah but it tends to yell about the windows cracks lol
#6 [00:03] <xales> you must not have good ones then :P
#7 [00:03] <Kealper> no, the one i have is pretty garbage
#8 [00:03] <Kealper> i have to redo it on my server so i can get 7 sp1, but that would require me to restart my server twice
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#10 [00:06] <blaze02> didnt work either
#11 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Same error?
#12 [00:06] <blaze02> yea
#13 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin it again?
#14 [00:07] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com/98ehjcfj
#15 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> Not the old one
#16 [00:07] <blaze02> they all say the same thing
#17 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us the latest one you get?
#18 [00:08] <Kealper> well...i'm off to bed :/
#19 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> laters
#20 [00:09] <blaze02> http://pastebin.com/NFrxV6Da
#21 [00:09] <blaze02> thanks for the help
#22 [00:11] <xales> Have you tried reinstalling Minecraft?
#23 [00:13] <blaze02> yea
#24 [00:13] <blaze02> i have delete the one and installed the new
#25 [00:13] <xales> Try reinstalling Java.
#26 [00:14] <blaze02> yea
#27 [00:14] <Wug> do you have up to date graphics drivers?
#28 [00:14] <xales> Wug: So it would seem
#29 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> blaze02 - Can you give us another copy of your dxdiag, let us see if the computer's got the latest drivers installed?
#30 [00:16] <blaze02> http://pastebin.com/pQp46JWm
#31 [00:17] <xales> That's not the correct driver...
#32 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Looks like the drivers are the same
#33 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Didn't update
#34 [00:17] <dopeghoti> which vendor?
#35 [00:17] <blaze02> how do i run that
#36 [00:17] <dopeghoti> also hi?
#37 [00:17] <dopeghoti> (:
#38 [00:17] <blaze02> again
#39 [00:18] <blaze02> i did update
#40 [00:18] <xales> dopeghoti: ATI
#41 [00:18] <xales> (aka AMD)
#42 [00:18] <dopeghoti> ?? blaze02 gpu/amd
#43 [00:18] <Wug> its a 5470
#44 [00:18] <dopeghoti> ??> blaze02 gpu/amd
#45 [00:18] <xales> blaze02: Did you install what I told you to?
#46 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Hold on dope
#47 [00:18] <VoxelHead> blaze02: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#48 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> blaze is running a dell laptop
#49 [00:18] <dopeghoti> oh frell
#50 [00:18] <blaze02> yea
#51 [00:19] <blaze02> yea
#52 [00:19] <xales> http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&ServiceTag=&SystemID=STUDIO1558&os=W764&osl=en&catid=&impid=
#53 [00:19] <xales> Go to Video, select the first one
#54 [00:19] <xales> and the "use browser to download"
#55 [00:20] <blaze02> download that
#56 [00:20] <xales> Yes, and install it
#57 [00:20] <blaze02> i did
#58 [00:21] <xales> That was fast...
#59 [00:21] <xales> You double clicked on it, and it installed?
#60 [00:21] <blaze02> fast internet
#61 [00:21] <blaze02> :
#62 [00:21] <blaze02> )
#63 [00:21] <xales> Doesn't matter...the driver itself usually takes a minute to install
#64 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> And usually requires a computer restart
#65 [00:21] <InfectedSoul> OMG THIS IS STUPID
#66 [00:22] <blaze02> well i installed it already
#67 [00:22] <InfectedSoul> was playing on a local host server
#68 [00:22] <blaze02> i went to that website before hand
#69 [00:22] <InfectedSoul> and now i can play on my dedi lol
#70 [00:22] <dopeghoti> no need to shout, InfectedSoul. The acoustics in here are _great_
#71 [00:22] <blaze02> but i do have fast internet
#72 [00:22] <InfectedSoul> sorry hit the cap key lol
#73 [00:22] <xales> blaze02: Can you tell us what you did to "install" it?
#74 [00:23] <blaze02> went to minecraft.net
#75 [00:23] <dopeghoti> ah. In other words, "Not what you were told."
#76 [00:24] <xales> ...
#77 [00:24] <xales> blaze02: So, you were just ignoring the links we gave you?
#78 [00:25] <Wug> we can't help if you won't do anything we suggest
#79 [00:25] <blaze02> okay
#80 [00:25] <blaze02> i have
#81 [00:25] <xales> You have what?
#82 [00:25] <Wug> you clearly have not restarted your computer
#83 [00:26] <blaze02> i have gone gone through all these steps before
#84 [00:26] <dopeghoti> (it could be a different computer, in the interest of the benefit of the doubt)
#85 [00:26] <xales> blaze02: I am going to give you the instructions again, because you seem to need it
#86 [00:27] <xales> Go to THIS LINK, NOT minecraft.net - http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&ServiceTag=&SystemID=STUDIO1558&os=W764&osl=en&catid=&impid=
#87 [00:27] <xales> Click "Video" and then the "Download" button for the first option
#88 [00:27] <xales> Then click "Download in my Internet Browser"
#89 [00:27] <xales> Once the file is downloaded, double click it and install it
#90 [00:27] <xales> If it asks you to restart your computer, select _yes_
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#97 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> Netsplit incoming?
#98 [00:30] <blaze02> says i have to install items setup
#99 [00:30] <xales> blaze02: Then do so?
#100 [00:30] <dopeghoti> Also, if an extradimensional being asks you if you are a god, you say 'yes'.
#101 [00:31] <blaze02> okay
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#104 [00:37] <blaze02> Xales sorry if i got on your nerves
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#118 [01:08] <dontpanic> Hey Hey gang
#119 [01:08] <xales> Hi
#120 [01:08] <dontpanic> how are we?
#121 [01:09] <xales> Being but one of many, I would not know.
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#129 [01:39] <mib_48dk59> minecraft on 64bit W7. java by default dl's 32bit, right? any advantage on getting 64bit java instead. stability etc?
#130 [01:39] <Wug> it does tend to be better.
#131 [01:39] <xales> It might be faster, but it would not be a large difference
#132 [01:39] <xales> It's still better to use 64bit
#133 [01:39] <Wug> 64 bit java runs more efficiently on 64 bit systems
#134 [01:39] <Wug> no emulation, etc
#135 [01:40] <xales> Wug: There is no emulation with 32-bit programs
#136 [01:40] <xales> at least, not on x86_64
#137 [01:40] <Wug> minecraft can sometimes benefit from the increased address space, but for the most part you'll be fine even with less then 4GB
#138 [01:41] <Wug> xales, do you know what wow64 is
#139 [01:41] <Wug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOW64
#140 [01:41] <Wug> trust me, it is emulated to a degree
#141 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> !wiki wow64
#142 [01:41] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64
#143 [01:41] <GreyBot> WoW64 (Windows 32-bit On Windows 64-bit) is a subsystem of the Windows operating system that is capable of running 32-bit applications and is included on all 64-bit versions of Windows — including Windows 2000 Limited Edition, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, IA-64 and x64 versions of Windows Server 2003, as well as 64-bit versions of Windows Vista, Windows
#144 [01:41] <GreyBot> Server 2008, and Windows 7. In Windows Server 2008 R2 Server Core, it is an optional component. WoW64 is designed to take care of many of the differences between 32-bit Windows and 64-bit Windows, particularly involving structural changes to Windows itself.
#145 [01:42] <xales> Wug: On Itanium, yes
#146 [01:42] <xales> Not on amd64 :)
#147 [01:42] <xales> !wiki amd64
#148 [01:42] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
#149 [01:42] <GreyBot> x86-64 is an extension of the x86 instruction set. It supports vastly larger virtual and physical address spaces than are possible on x86, thereby allowing programmers to conveniently work with much larger data sets. x86-64 also provides 64-bit general purpose registers and numerous other enhancements. The original specification was created by AMD, and has been
#150 [01:42] <GreyBot> implemented by AMD, Intel, VIA, and others. It is fully backwards compatible with 32-bit code.(p13) Because the full 32-bit instruction set remains implemented in hardware without any intervening emulation, existing 32-bit x86 executables run with no compatibility or performance penalties, although existing applications that are recoded to take advantage of new features
#151 [01:42] <GreyBot> of the processor design may see significant performance increases.
#152 [01:42] <Wug> then how come java x86 runs so much slower than java x64 on the same machine
#153 [01:42] <Wug> I've done benchmarks
#154 [01:42] <xales> "It is fully backwards compatible with 32-bit code"
#155 [01:42] <xales> derp.
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#157 [01:42] <xales> and because Java sucks?
#158 [01:43] <Wug> any and all system calls must be translated to 32 bit
#159 [01:43] <Wug> which incurs some overhead
#160 [01:44] <Wug> also, 32 bit programs expect 32 bit memory addresses, all of these must be translated to run with 64 bit addresses
#161 [01:44] <Wug> * in a 64 bit address space*
#162 [01:45] <xales> As far as addresses, no
#163 [01:45] <xales> They are just truncated
#164 [01:45] <xales> :)
#165 [01:45] <VoxelHead> =)
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#167 [01:45] <Wug> well, sort of
#168 [01:45] <mib_48dk59> sp, put simle and square. the time to get it updated is worth it
#169 [01:45] <Wug> but java only works with heap space
#170 [01:45] <Wug> everything is addresses in java
#171 [01:45] <mib_48dk59> thx for a lot of good answers
#172 [01:45] <Wug> so you get a little bit of overhead for literally everything
#173 [01:46] <xales> You'd get the same overhead with the stack
#174 [01:46] <Wug> java uses mostly heap, not stack
#175 [01:46] <Wug> it might even store the a virtual stack on the heap
#176 [01:46] <xales> I know; who cares?
#177 [01:47] <xales> On 64-bit systems, the call stack uses 64-bit addresses as well.
#178 [01:47] <xales> Derp.
#179 [01:47] <Wug> yep
#180 [01:47] <xales> So, there's no difference?
#181 [01:47] <Wug> but java's call stack is emulated
#182 [01:47] <Wug> because java
#183 [01:48] <Wug> sure. theres no difference
#184 [01:48] <xales> :P
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#186 [01:52] <blaze02> hello
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#188 [01:52] <xales> Hi
#189 [01:52] <Wug> so is it working better?
#190 [01:52] <Wug> ello _303
#191 [01:52] <blaze02> sorry Xales, while i was talking to you i was on the phone with a dell tech support person
#192 [01:53] <blaze02> I reported the problem to java and they said it was a bug
#193 [01:53] <blaze02> though the problem is still going on
#194 [01:53] <Wug> because god knows java doesn't have any bugs :P
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#195 [01:54] <blaze02> lol
#196 [01:54] <Wug> are you in a position to try linux?
#197 [01:54] <xales> blaze02: Only, it's not a bug
#198 [01:54] <xales> It's a problem with your graphics card
#199 [01:54] <blaze02> i had the tech check it out
#200 [01:54] <xales> Which you fix by using the latest driver...which you aren't
#201 [01:54] <xales> The "techs" don't know shit
#202 [01:54] <blaze02> he unstalled it and then restainlled it
#203 [01:54] <blaze02> true that
#204 [01:54] <Wug> they sometimes do
#205 [01:55] <Wug> shibboleet
#206 [01:55] <xales> Yeah, he probably reinstalled the same driver
#207 [01:55] <blaze02> no he sat there and unstalled it then restailled it about 3 times
#208 [01:55] <blaze02> got the same problem
#209 [01:55] <blaze02> i need a new one
#210 [01:55] <RainbowDash> I wanna be a tech
#211 [01:55] <blaze02> lol
#212 [01:55] <RainbowDash> it sounds like fun, easy work
#213 [01:55] <Wug> LOL
#214 [01:55] <RainbowDash> owait
#215 [01:55] <xales> blaze02: Do me a favor - go to http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&ServiceTag=&SystemID=STUDIO1558&os=W764&osl=en&catid=&impid=
#216 [01:55] <xales> download the Video driver
#217 [01:55] <RainbowDash> I have to work with people
#218 [01:55] <xales> install it
#219 [01:55] <xales> ._.
#220 [01:55] <RainbowDash> NOPE.AVI
#221 [01:56] <Wug> you might check to see if you can run minecraft properly from a linux livecd
#222 [01:56] <RainbowDash> Wug: nope.avi
#223 [01:56] <Wug> also xales, if a tech support dude did it, I'd say that's probably good enough'
#224 [01:56] <xales> Wug: "reinstalled"
#225 [01:56] <xales> the guy probably reinstalled the same driver
#226 [01:56] <xales> they are stupid like that
#227 [01:56] <Wug> it could just be a bug with the oem driver
#228 [01:57] <blaze02> okay hold on
#229 [01:57] <Wug> the newest version is not guaranteed bug free
#230 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> If you look at the driver that blaze is using now, it's a year old, compared to the version available on dell's site
#231 [01:57] <Wug> well, the version that he _had_
#232 [01:57] <blaze02> its saying please go to downloads and i go click on it
#233 [01:58] <blaze02> get the same message again
#234 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> It's also a better laptop than I have, I use a studio 1535
#235 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> And I can run minecraft just fine, uses an older ATI card as well
#236 [01:58] <Wug> i have a latitude with a quadro 110m and it runs minecraft ok
#237 [01:58] <Wug> that model of laptop was discontinued like 3 years ago
#238 [01:59] <blaze02> its just giving me a run around
#239 [01:59] <Wug> do you have teamviewer?
#240 [02:00] <xales> blaze02: Try http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#241 [02:00] <blaze02> i got it to work
#242 [02:00] <blaze02> firefox does not microsoft
#243 [02:00] <blaze02> does not like
#244 [02:00] <blaze02> lol
#245 [02:01] <Wug> I would hope that firefox doesnt microsoft
#246 [02:01] <Wug> that would be all kinds of bad
#247 [02:01] <blaze02> lol
#248 [02:01] <blaze02> not what i meant
#249 [02:01] <Wug> chromium ftw by the way
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#252 [02:02] <blaze02> anyone play warcraft 3?
#253 [02:04] <blaze02> i take that as a know
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#255 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Something's leaking memory on this computer, brb.
#256 [02:10] <Wug> lol
#257 [02:10] <VoxelHead> What a jizz-wizard :<
#258 [02:10] <Wug> VOXELHEAD, IM TELLING GREYVULPINE YOU SAID THAT
#259 [02:10] <xales> ^
#260 [02:10] <xales> VOXELHEAD I'M PREGNANT
#261 [02:11] <xales> :|
#262 [02:11] * Wug thinks vox is operating in write only mode
#262 [02:11] * xales writes all over Wug's face
#262 [02:11] <Wug> who taught him the word jizz-wizard anyway
#263 [02:12] <Wug> I taught him dildo-whomper, that one was me
#264 [02:12] <xales> Nobody, he has a large number of text files each containing a large number of terms in specific catogories
#265 [02:12] <blaze02> says its already installed
#266 [02:12] <xales> Categories* gah I'm tired
#267 [02:12] <Wug> who put jizz-wizard in one
#268 [02:12] <xales> Wug: the creators of it, probably
#269 [02:12] <xales> I don't think it saves new stuff to the files
#270 [02:13] <Wug> blaze, you have probably got it up to date then
#271 [02:13] <Wug> maybe give that ubuntu livecd a shot
#272 [02:13] <Wug> make sure you don't end up like me though
#273 [02:13] <Wug> I have accidentally switched to linux as a primary os
#274 [02:14] <xales> I did it intentionally
#275 [02:14] <xales> ._.
#276 [02:14] <Wug> I rather like it
#277 [02:14] <blaze02> i honestly think i need a new graphics card in here. its why i called dell. i just have to send it in, but they have to say that they have to replace it. so i think after tonight they will
#278 [02:14] <_303> Wug: helo
#279 [02:14] <Wug> though I should probably fix the broken graphical themes sometimes
#280 [02:14] <Wug> hi _303 :3
#281 [02:15] <xales> Wug: Ubuntu? :|
#282 [02:15] <Wug> yeah, what about it
#283 [02:15] <xales> I strongly dislike it for a multitide of reasons :|
#284 [02:15] <Wug> to be fair, it is ubuntu server, and its not supposed to have graphical themes period
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#286 [02:15] <Wug> but I like my graphical applications
#287 [02:16] <xales> ._.
#288 [02:16] <Wug> well, when apt shits itself, I'll send you a memo
#289 [02:16] <xales> Linux distros aren't meant to "have stuff"
#290 [02:16] <Wug> and you can have a little laugh about it
#291 [02:16] <xales> they are just a base set of packages
#292 [02:16] <xales> which you can install anything else on top of
#293 [02:16] <Wug> typically, server installations of any sort aren't meant to have advanced guis
#294 [02:17] <Wug> because they waste time and space
#295 [02:17] <xales> "Ubuntu Server" really means "Ubuntu without a graphical installer and less default packages"
#296 [02:18] <Wug> windows server is pretty much the same
#297 [02:18] <Wug> less graphical stuff, more basic utilities
#298 [02:18] <Wug> every server install is
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#303 [02:20] <xales> GreyVulpine: I think VoxelHead likes you ._.
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#305 [02:20] <xales> 02:10:15 <@VoxelHead> What a jizz-wizard :<
#306 [02:20] <Wug> grey, you missed it
#307 [02:20] <Wug> ^
#308 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> >.>
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#318 [02:36] <OnlyStrife2> i have a question
#319 [02:36] <OnlyStrife2> anyone active?
#320 [02:38] <Wug> sort of
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#325 [02:50] <VoxelHead> i like them ^_^
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#328 [02:52] <OnlyStrife2> ok so would you be up for helping me diagnose a problem i'm having? anyone?
#329 [02:52] <VoxelHead> bye EmpiresBane
#330 [02:54] <outsomnia> http://i51.tinypic.com/2193pg2.jpg
#331 [02:54] <outsomnia> why craft hate me?
#332 [02:55] <lemon-rev> outsomnia the web site is down if you have already downloaded minecraft you should beable to hit login and play offline
#333 [02:56] <outsomnia> wait, the website is down right now?
#334 [02:56] <lemon-rev> hagn
#335 [02:56] <outsomnia> I've been getting this all week, I'm suspecting it might have to do with my current network.
#336 [02:56] <lemon-rev> hm, site is up
#337 [02:56] <lemon-rev> checking login
#338 [02:57] <lemon-rev> hm, well i just logged in , so yea has to be
#339 [02:59] <outsomnia> :X
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#347 [03:43] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :~(
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#349 [03:48] <zaaKun^mc> can someone tell me why my win7 firewall is blocking 25565 even though i've added this port to be allowed? if I turn off the firewall it works fine
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#351 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> zaaKun - Is it just windows firewall?
#352 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any other security software?
#353 [03:55] <zaaKun> yes, but if I turn off the windows firewall the port isn't blocked anymore, so it has to be something related to the firewall
#354 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> And you set an inbound rule for the win firewall?
#355 [03:55] <zaaKun> yes
#356 [03:55] <zaaKun> TCP 25565, tried UDP as well, but it's the same
#357 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> TCP protocol?
#358 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, could you take a screenshot of the rule?
#359 [03:56] <zaaKun> sure
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#362 [04:03] <zaaKun> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/portnr.png/ - it's in german, but you can see it's port 25565
#363 [04:05] <VoxelHead> Is that the time? i need to be in bed.
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#365 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that looks right..
#366 [04:12] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] The lost Steve heads are found (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/Pu5Toz
#367 [04:12] <zaaKun> I guess I'll just have to turn if off while playing MC
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#371 [04:31] <Darkedge> hi - I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 and appear to have no sound... the terminal reports nothing unusal... ideas?
#372 [04:33] <_303> check is sound is turned on using gnome-volume-control or alsamixer. sometimes minecraft turns sound off for no reason
#373 [04:34] <_303> also make sure sound is turned on in minecraft. options -> whatever
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#377 [05:08] <ScribbleJR> i know this is probly common question, but is there anyway to stop the end of stream/bad login?
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#379 [05:27] <zaaKun> there isn't any way to do some on/off switchable light without redstone torch huh?
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#381 [05:33] <NotiCon> no
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#391 [06:15] <coreAIM> servus
#392 [06:16] <coreAIM> sachmal muss man ihrgendein command benutzen um jemanden zum builder zu machen ?
#393 [06:17] <Darkedge> coreAIM: We're sorta an English speaking channel ;P
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#396 [06:49] <SinZ> can lightning set off tnt?
#397 [06:50] <lemon-rev> hm, i would belive so if it ever hit, it but it can change pigs into pigmen so i suppose it can set it off :P
#398 [06:50] <Darkedge> it can
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#405 [07:16] <KriLL3> anyone knows whats happening if on a multiplayer server an area can't be affected by one player, but can by another?
#406 [07:16] <lemon-rev> it means that person hasnt got say an op to allow him to build in say spawn area
#407 [07:16] <KriLL3> he can build near the spawn, but he can't mine deep in a cave
#408 [07:16] <KriLL3> but I can
#409 [07:17] <lemon-rev> has it got a mod that is stoping him rom doing hes mineing
#410 [07:17] <KriLL3> no mods
#411 [07:17] <KriLL3> weird, works when I op him
#412 [07:18] <lemon-rev> hm, try op'ing him in the world and see if that helps, other from that i dont know
#413 [07:18] <lemon-rev> yea matter of the server level, requirement, i suppose
#414 [07:22] <KriLL3> anyone knows how to fix this without oping everyone?
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#416 [07:22] <KriLL3> I run 2 servers, one with monsters, animals, pvp, no ops etc and one with all ops, no monsters, animals etc
#417 [07:23] <chaoticoz> hello, is it possible to make worldedits /undo history larger?
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#419 [07:24] <[z]> chaoticoz: Yes, check the config file
#420 [07:24] <chaoticoz> i cannot find it in worldedits config
#421 [07:24] <chaoticoz> oh
#422 [07:24] <chaoticoz> omg
#423 [07:25] * chaoticoz is applying desk to face
#423 [07:25] * lemon-rev injoy the fab way the disk slides over face :P
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#424 [07:28] <chaoticoz> been playing with brushes building mountains and stuff
#425 [07:28] <chaoticoz> history of 15 wasnt enough :S
#426 [07:28] <NotiCon> just do it right the first time? o:
#427 [07:29] <chaoticoz> im new to it
#428 [07:29] <chaoticoz> glad i have backups lol
#429 [07:34] <zaaKun> why isnt it working if redstone wire is placed under a block with powered rail? isn't it the same as if it were a switch on that block?
#430 [07:35] <lemon-rev> i beliv e the redstone wire has to be attached to the block, if its underneath it then its just leading to earth or something else
#431 [07:35] <lemon-rev> i think
#432 [07:36] <zaaKun> oh yeah, true, could've thought of that myself, lol
#433 [07:36] <lemon-rev> lol, so you connected it correctly now ?
#434 [07:37] <zaaKun> yeah, just placed another block so the wire is connecting directly to the rails block
#435 [07:37] <lemon-rev> uh
#436 [07:37] <lemon-rev> k
#437 [07:37] <zaaKun> trying to mess with automated circuits for minecart
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#449 [09:11] <bezaban> zaaKun: if you want to power it from underneath you can place a torch under the block with the rail
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#455 [09:28] <zaaKun> bezaban i have a switch to activate all of the powered rails, so another torch wasn't the best solution;)
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#457 [09:29] <vcordie> If you use switchs to change directions on a minecart rail system: I hate you. It is impossible for me to hit the switchs in time.
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#459 [09:30] <NotiCon> make a station ?
#460 [09:30] <zaaKun> yeah hitting the switch while driving is kinda tricky
#461 [09:31] <vcordie> Yeah, usually you have hit a swtich in order to stop at the destination
#462 [09:31] <vcordie> Make a station. If you get out, a minecart takes the cart away. If you hit a switch, a minecart boosts you to the next station
#463 [09:31] <vcordie> Easy enough to do
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#467 [09:33] <bezaban> zaaKun: yeah, but you can invert that torch and still run redstone from it. Just if you wanted to access it from directly below :)
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#469 [09:38] <zaaKun> i know, but that would take more space than just adding a block+wire;)
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#476 [09:56] <mib_xzash2> what channel is for talking to mods about issues on the minecraft forums. I am having trouble finding it
#477 [09:57] <_303> #minecraftforums ?
#478 [09:58] <mib_xzash2> thanks 303, this is shawn by the way
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#484 [10:05] <MagicHereos> hello
#485 [10:06] <MagicHereos> I've got problem
#486 [10:06] <MagicHereos> when I place 2 minecarts near themselves, they disapear both
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#488 [10:06] <MagicHereos> I wanna do booster but I cant;/
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#490 [10:06] <MagicHereos> is there anybody??
#491 [10:08] <NotiCon> MagicHereos: use powered rails?
#492 [10:08] <MagicHereos> i cant
#493 [10:08] <NotiCon> why not?
#494 [10:10] <MagicHereos> hmmm... I need have a lot of minecarts in one place
#495 [10:10] <MagicHereos> im doing automatic train station
#496 [10:10] <vcordie> MagicHeroes: until you can be more accurate, we cannot help you
#497 [10:10] <Morrolan> MagicHereos: I thought that was fixed a long time ago. :/
#498 [10:11] <Morrolan> Could you make a screenshot of your setup?
#499 [10:11] <MagicHereos> i've just started doing this train station ;p
#500 [10:12] <vcordie> having 2 minecarts in the same place? I distictly remember playing broville in 1.5_01 and having a powered minecart accidentally push a regular minecart into another one making a double minecart
#501 [10:13] <MagicHereos> hmm
#502 [10:13] <MagicHereos> I need to store all minecarts
#503 [10:14] <vcordie> Stack them on top of each other
#504 [10:14] <MagicHereos> and when player use redstone button one of it will run
#505 [10:14] <MagicHereos> but just one
#506 [10:14] <vcordie> This is what you do
#507 [10:14] <vcordie> place a half block down
#508 [10:14] <vcordie> have minecarts land on top of this half block, thsi will store them
#509 [10:14] <vcordie> have the rail in front of the half block and one to the side
#510 [10:15] <vcordie> haf a booster come on the rail to the side, this will grab one cart and boost it to the track on the front
#511 [10:15] <vcordie> tadaa
#512 [10:17] <MagicHereos> but when first card is near second card, they disapear(but when they are first on second, they dont)
#513 [10:17] <MagicHereos> so I cant make booster
#514 [10:18] <MagicHereos> what should I do now?
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#518 [10:29] <Morrolan> MagicHereos: Again, could you make a screenshot of your setup, so we can try to rebuild it?
#519 [10:29] <Morrolan> Because I haven't seen this error for ages.
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#521 [10:33] <MagicHereos> http://imageshack.us/m/69/8185/beztytuuadr.png
#522 [10:34] <MagicHereos> when I place minecard there, they disapears
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#528 [10:44] <wheybags> anyone else getting AWFUL framerate after most recent update
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#530 [10:46] <vcordie> umwhat?
#531 [10:47] <vcordie> The 1.5_01 update increased fps and optimized
#532 [10:47] <wheybags> guess it's just me
#533 [10:47] <vcordie> with optimine with nosky, optifog, and the 1.5_01 update I get 150fps from 10 fps
#534 [10:47] <zaaKun> http://imageshack.us/m/69/8185/beztytuuadr.png < this looks kinda cool, is that a texture package?
#535 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes\
#536 [10:52] <zaaKun> what's the name of that package?
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#538 [10:54] <xolotl> zaaKun: Maybe John Smith?
#539 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Man, I don't know, maybe dokucraft?
#540 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=224969
#541 [11:04] <zaaKun> xolotl thanks
#542 [11:13] <wheybags> lol @ grammar nazi wh can't spell
#543 [11:13] <wheybags> *than yes
#544 [11:13] <wheybags> fgt
#545 [11:17] <Kealper> i hope you didn't mean what i think you meant by "fgt" >.>
#546 [11:17] <wheybags> sorry
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#548 [11:18] <wheybags> i guess i'm kinda used to more "caustic" online communities
#549 [11:19] <Kealper> that appology implied yes, so...just know that there are people in here who would get offended with that word (and other words) so we try to keep those out of the channel :/
#550 [11:20] <wheybags> Sorry, I didn't mean anything by it, it's just conditioning
#551 [11:20] <wheybags> now that you point it out, I'm kinda ashamed
#552 [11:21] <Kealper> this feeling of being ashamed pleases the all-mighty Kealper D:<
#553 [11:23] <Kealper> ok but all jokes aside, we just try to keep it clean in this channel, since it usually has a few kids in it, too
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#555 [11:23] <Kealper> the occasional swear word or two is fine, but there are certain things that just offend too many people to have them said :/
#556 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> Notch - "Also, removing creepers, making all blocks spherical, and limiting the map height to 7."
#557 [11:26] * GreyVulpine snickers
#557 [11:26] <Kealper> XD
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#559 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Kinda mixed on the issue of boosters going away though
#560 [11:27] <Kealper> wut
#561 [11:27] <Morrolan> Hm?
#562 [11:27] <Morrolan> Minecart boosters?
#563 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/68693850062995456
#564 [11:27] <Kealper> you mean he is fixing the booster bug?
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#566 [11:27] <wheybags> GreyVulpine: they were kinda silly
#567 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> "From my changelist: "* Fixed minecarts next to each other causing extreme velocities (sorry!)""
#568 [11:28] <Morrolan> Shame
#569 [11:28] <Kealper> i'm....
#570 [11:28] <Morrolan> disappointed
#571 [11:28] <Kealper> actually not sure how i feel about that
#572 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> I dunno..
#573 [11:28] <jabwd> Hello, having some problems with minecraft. About 5 times a minute when building stuff or mining things in minecraft my keys tend to get "stuck". So minecraft thinks that the key is still being pressed while it is not. I died about 5 times becaues of it. Is there any way to fix this?
#574 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes, don't hold down a key when you go into a menu
#575 [11:29] <jabwd> i didn't go into a menu
#576 [11:29] <jabwd> it just happens
#577 [11:29] <Morrolan> jabwd: Press that key and release it again.
#578 [11:29] <wheybags> that always ahppens on my laptop
#579 [11:29] <jabwd> yeah, and then 5 seconds later it happens again
#580 [11:29] <wheybags> i think it's because of my crappy touchpad
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#582 [11:30] <jabwd> i have tried updating to the latest version of lwjgl
#583 [11:31] <xales> jabwd: Do you have any mods installed?
#584 [11:32] <jabwd> none. i'm on a mac though, i had it a while ago in version 1.2.. i think and then it was fixed in an update, however for some reason it started happening again, in 1.5
#585 [11:32] <xales> jabwd: What version of OS X?
#586 [11:32] <jabwd> 10.6.7
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#588 [11:33] <xales> ??> jabwd mac/reinst
#589 [11:33] <VoxelHead> jabwd: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#590 [11:33] <VoxelHead> jabwd: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#591 [11:34] <jabwd> i think i tried that, but lemme do that again
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#598 [11:50] <Upsolution> hello
#599 [11:50] <Upsolution> i have a problem... and i hope some1 can help me
#600 [11:50] <Upsolution> :P
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#602 [11:51] <Kealper> ?? ask
#603 [11:51] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#604 [11:51] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#605 [11:51] <Upsolution> i'm kinda stuck in my minecraft world, i can log in and enter the world
#606 [11:51] <Upsolution> i'm busy :P
#607 [11:51] <Upsolution> not very good at english sorry so it takes a while
#608 [11:52] <Kealper> oh, sorry lol, we get a lot of people in here who just say "HELP PLS!!!!" and then don't go in to detail
#609 [11:52] <Upsolution> but as soon i enter the world it's hanging and kicks me out after 4 secs
#610 [11:52] <Kealper> xales: GreyVulpine: ping!
#611 [11:52] <Upsolution> and my last backup is from days ago
#612 [11:52] <xales> Kealper: hi
#613 [11:52] <Kealper> i'm going afk so i can't help, hopefully one of those two people i hilighted come back and help :/
#614 [11:53] <Upsolution> is there any kind of respawn option outside the game?
#615 [11:54] <Upsolution> so that's kinda it :"P
#616 [11:54] <xales> Upsolution: If you delete your playername.dat file, it will put you back at spawn (and also delete your personal inventory)
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#618 [11:55] <Upsolution> wel i'l have to try that, what do you think will happen if i put the playername.dat file back afterwards?
#619 [11:55] <g> If that was the problem
#620 [11:55] <g> then you'll break it again
#621 [11:55] <g> :P
#622 [11:55] <Upsolution> damn :P
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#624 [11:56] <zaaKun> is there a way to keep minecraft from making me change the direction im looking to while riding in the minecart?
#625 [11:57] <Upsolution> xales or g: is that the file in the stats map?
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#627 [11:58] <xales> Upsolution: No - it's in the world folder
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#629 [12:03] <Upsolution> thanks
#630 [12:03] <Upsolution> i think i've got it :P
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#637 [12:42] <xolotl> Oh nooooooo @ nerfing of boat/water elevators
#638 [12:42] <xolotl> alas
#639 [12:42] * xolotl weeps for his hollowed-out-mountain Boatvelator
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#640 [12:59] <Morrolan> Xolotl: Wait, he didn't only remove minecart boosters, but water elevators as well? :(
#641 [12:59] <xolotl> Morrolan: He didn't remove 'em, they're just nerfed, I guess
#642 [12:59] <xolotl> Morrolan: So they'll be slower
#643 [12:59] <Morrolan> Hmm, oh well, better than no water elevators at all I guess.
#644 [12:59] <xolotl> Yeah
#645 [13:00] <xolotl> I can't really complain since that was a fairly egregious violation of physics in the first place. :)
#646 [13:00] <xolotl> Not that I think Minecraft has to strive for realism
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#651 [13:09] <VoxelHead> bye Isanity
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#671 [14:24] <dopeghoti> King: Kindly disable your away/back announcement scripts in this channel.
#672 [14:32] * Kealper yawns
#672 [14:34] <Kealper> that was an annoyingly long quit message
#673 [14:34] <g> ^
#674 [14:34] <aetherian> <
#675 [14:35] <g> . o O ( What an annoying thing to do.. )
#676 [14:35] <g> :P
#677 [14:35] <aetherian> (o.O)
#678 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> well
#679 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> that's one way to disable the away script.
#680 [14:35] <Captain-Lightning> heheh
#681 [14:35] <VoxelHead> :)
#682 [14:36] <Captain-Lightning> VoxelHead, you mocking me?
#683 [14:36] <VoxelHead> lemmie go look that up
#684 [14:36] * Captain-Lightning kicks VoxelHead
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#685 [14:36] <Captain-Lightning> I think I may have killed VoxelHead.
#686 [14:37] <_303> VoxelHead: are you dead? :o
#687 [14:37] * DopeGhoti gives vox some coffee
#687 [14:37] <VoxelHead> thankie
#688 [14:37] <VoxelHead> mmmmm...
#689 [14:37] * VoxelHead drinks the coffee ;)
#689 [14:38] <Captain-Lightning> What
#690 [14:38] <g> I thought someone said we were losing the AI?
#691 [14:38] * VoxelHead finishes the coffee
#691 [14:38] <VoxelHead> mmmm... thanks :)
#692 [14:38] <Captain-Lightning> DopeGhoti is a necromancer.
#693 [14:38] <Captain-Lightning> VoxelHead is a zombot.
#694 [14:38] <Kealper> g: i thought we were, but i guess i was wrong lol
#695 [14:38] <g> Sigh
#696 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> g: it's not AI; it's GS. And people were asking for it to come back, so it sometimes is.
#697 [14:39] <g> It should need to be activated, rather than deactivated
#698 [14:39] <g> well
#699 [14:39] <g> I suppose it is
#700 [14:39] <DopeGhoti> It does, hence my allusion to having temporarily reactivated it.
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#702 [14:40] <g> Ahk
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#708 [15:02] <Precastwig> Hello?
#709 [15:02] <Kealper> ello
#710 [15:03] <Precastwig> Can anyone help me with ma mincrift problem?
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#712 [15:04] <Precastwig> Anyone?
#713 [15:04] <Shadow386> Help, with minecraft, in #minecrafthelp?
#714 [15:04] <Shadow386> You crazy?
#715 [15:04] <Precastwig> ^_^
#716 [15:04] <VoxelHead> ;)
#717 [15:05] <Shadow386> Whatcha need help with
#718 [15:05] <Precastwig> Well
#719 [15:05] <Precastwig> Im on mac
#720 [15:05] <Kealper> can't help if you don't say what it is :/
#721 [15:05] <Shadow386> Go away VoxelHead
#722 [15:05] <Shadow386> lol
#723 [15:05] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#723 [15:05] <Shadow386> cant help then
#724 [15:05] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#725 [15:05] <Precastwig> =(
#726 [15:05] <Precastwig> No mac users?
#727 [15:05] <Shadow386> idk how to work with macs
#728 [15:05] <Shadow386> too annoying
#729 [15:05] <Precastwig> Its a weird problem
#730 [15:05] <Precastwig> Yeah ino
#731 [15:05] <Precastwig> Changing soon
#732 [15:05] <Precastwig> If i get money
#733 [15:05] <Shadow386> Sell your mac
#734 [15:05] <Shadow386> ;D
#735 [15:05] <Precastwig> Haha
#736 [15:05] <Precastwig> Its broken
#737 [15:05] <Shadow386> be able to buy two PCs for that
#738 [15:06] <Precastwig> It has a graphical issue
#739 [15:06] <Precastwig> and its old
#740 [15:06] <Precastwig> and i bought it for like £200
#741 [15:06] <Shadow386> Well Minecraft is tricky on macs
#742 [15:06] <Shadow386> one reason I've heard it java and mac dont go too well
#743 [15:06] <Precastwig> Its worked perfectly for me from 0.5 to 1.5
#744 [15:06] <Shadow386> something about java not doing any more updates for macs?
#745 [15:06] <Precastwig> Soemthing like that
#746 [15:07] <Precastwig> It just wont reinstall
#747 [15:07] <Precastwig> At all
#748 [15:07] <Precastwig> no matter what
#749 [15:07] <Shadow386> I wouldn't doubt its something about apple wanting more money
#750 [15:07] <Precastwig> Probably
#751 [15:07] <Shadow386> java wont reinstall?
#752 [15:07] <Precastwig> No minecraft
#753 [15:07] <Shadow386> how so?
#754 [15:07] <Precastwig> Well all data is in application supper>minecraft
#755 [15:07] <Precastwig> *support
#756 [15:08] <Precastwig> and to re install
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#758 [15:08] <Precastwig> you delete the data apart from your saves
#759 [15:08] <Shadow386> When you start the client, click the options and click force update
#760 [15:08] <Precastwig> i did
#761 [15:08] <Shadow386> try that
#762 [15:08] <Kealper> Shadow386: you actually can't reinstall Java on a mac
#763 [15:08] <Aconitin> hello. is here anyone who knows how to mod/use java commands?
#764 [15:08] <Precastwig> doesn't work
#765 [15:08] <Shadow386> Kealper does it cost $50?
#766 [15:08] <Precastwig> it comes with same error
#767 [15:08] <xolotl> Aconitin: If you're looking for mod help, #risucraft or #bukkit
#768 [15:08] <Shadow386> Precastwig pastebin the error?
#769 [15:08] <Kealper> Shadow386: no i mean you literally can't lol...
#770 [15:08] <Aconitin> thanks you
#771 [15:08] <Shadow386> xolotl: Or #canary if you use Canary
#772 [15:09] <Kealper> you'd have to reinstall the os to reinstall java
#773 [15:09] <Shadow386> Kealper: So $50 to send to apple to tell you that you need to reinstall the OS?
#774 [15:09] <xolotl> Shadow386: Aha, hadn't known about that.
#775 [15:09] <Precastwig> Error (Not downloaded)
#776 [15:09] <xolotl> Shadow386: thanks
#777 [15:09] <Kealper> Shadow386: basically
#778 [15:09] <Shadow386> :P
#779 [15:09] <Shadow386> Precastwig that's a strange error
#780 [15:09] <Precastwig> Mhm thats what i thought
#781 [15:09] <Shadow386> Kealper: or is it $500?
#782 [15:09] <Kealper> lol
#783 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> okay, now that I have a moment
#784 [15:10] <Shadow386> Precastwig I'm not sure if I'm allowed to, but I can try to send a copy of my .minecraft/bin
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#786 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> would you like someone who actually knows what he's talking about to offer Mac advice?
#787 [15:10] <Shadow386> ^
#788 [15:10] <Precastwig> =) that would be awesome
#789 [15:10] <Precastwig> Haha
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#791 [15:10] <Precastwig> Ok
#792 [15:10] <Shadow386> Listen to him, he prob owns a mac
#793 [15:10] <Shadow386> or two, if he has a second job
#794 [15:10] <Shadow386> ;D
#795 [15:10] <Precastwig> lawl
#796 [15:11] <xolotl> Shadow386: Such things should probably happen outside the channel itself, fwiw
#797 [15:11] <Shadow386> Which things?
#798 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> would you mind summarising the problem so I don't have to read six screenfuls of whinging about not liking macs?
#799 [15:11] <Precastwig> lolk
#800 [15:11] <xolotl> Shadow386: The sending-of-files
#801 [15:11] <Shadow386> :3
#802 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> thanks.
#803 [15:11] <Shadow386> Ah
#804 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> xolotl: such tihngs should not be encouraged by anyone in this channel. "wink-wink-nudge-look-over-ther" counts as encouragement.
#805 [15:13] <Precastwig> Basically i deleted all data in application support>minecraft except the saves like it says to do in the wiki for a re install, i load up minecraft and get the error "Error(Not Downloaded)" Force updating does jack shit, what do
#806 [15:13] <xales> Precastwig: What username are you using to sign into the launcher?
#807 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> Precastwig: try this:
#808 [15:13] <Precastwig> My minecraft username
#809 [15:13] <xales> Precastwig: Which is...? ._.
#810 [15:13] <Precastwig> Precastwig
#811 [15:13] <Precastwig> ^_^
#812 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> copy your saves elsewhere, and remove the minecraft directory entirely from Lib/App Support/
#813 [15:14] <VoxelHead> =]
#814 [15:14] <Precastwig> I've tried that dope ghoti
#815 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> then rerun the launcher and re-'force update'
#816 [15:14] <Precastwig> oh i haven't forced while like that
#817 [15:14] <Precastwig> i will try
#818 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> also, are you looking in /Library/Application\ Support/ or /Users/YOURNAMEHERE/Library/Application\ Support/ ?
#819 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> (should be the latter)
#820 [15:15] <xales> DopeGhoti: Yay spaces in filenames. >:|
#821 [15:15] <Precastwig> Users/yournamehere
#822 [15:15] * DopeGhoti nods
#822 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> !paid Precastwig
#823 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> (just checking)
#824 [15:16] <Precastwig> didn't work
#825 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> ?? mac/profile
#826 [15:16] <VoxelHead> mac/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#827 [15:16] <VoxelHead> mac/profile: Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#828 [15:16] <Precastwig> Create a new user?
#829 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
#830 [15:16] <Precastwig> Surely they wouldn't have paid for minecraft so i wouldn't be able to do it anyway
#831 [15:17] <xales> Not a Minecraft user
#832 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> not a new minecraft account, a new account on the computer itself
#833 [15:17] <xales> a user account on your computer
#834 [15:17] <Precastwig> Ohhh
#835 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> System Preferences -> Accounts
#836 [15:17] <Precastwig> Yeah i know how
#837 [15:17] <Precastwig> =P
#838 [15:17] <Precastwig> Not sure why it would though
#839 [15:18] <Precastwig> It has worked from alpha 0.5 to 1.5
#840 [15:18] <Precastwig> Without problems
#841 [15:18] <Precastwig> :/ i have to create a entirely new user
#842 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> For testing purposes
#843 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> if it works there, then we know we need to look at something on your regular account
#844 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> and as a bonus, while you sort that out, you can still play (:
#845 [15:21] <Precastwig> Nope didn't work
#846 [15:21] <Precastwig> =(
#847 [15:22] <Precastwig> So what is wrong?
#848 [15:25] <Precastwig> Urm, anyone?
#849 [15:25] <Precastwig> Or just lag
#850 [15:26] <xales> Precastwig: Has it worked before?
#851 [15:26] <Precastwig> Minecraft? Yes
#852 [15:26] <Precastwig> From tha alpha
#853 [15:26] <Precastwig> To now
#854 [15:26] <xales> What version of OS X?
#855 [15:27] <Precastwig> 10.6.7
#856 [15:27] <Precastwig> It was literally working earlier today
#857 [15:27] <xales> What does it say when you try to play it normally?
#858 [15:28] <Precastwig> Error(Not Dowloaded)
#859 [15:28] <Precastwig> Next to the sign in thing once it has started up
#860 [15:29] * Kealper has never seen this error before
#860 [15:29] <Precastwig> *Is scared that he cant finish his minecraft map*
#861 [15:29] <Precastwig> **Ever**
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#863 [15:29] <Kealper> /me action goes here :P
#864 [15:30] <Precastwig> *So do thoughts*
#865 [15:30] <Precastwig> ^_^
#866 [15:30] <VoxelHead> :-)
#867 [15:30] <Kealper> bah
#868 [15:30] <Precastwig> So anyone got any soloution?
#869 [15:30] <Precastwig> Or am i fucked
#870 [15:31] <Kealper> i wouldn't even know where to start, as i have never used a mac, and i've never heard of that error, so i would not even know why it's saying that
#871 [15:31] <xales> Precastwig: Have you tried playing it in the browser?
#872 [15:31] <Precastwig> i will try
#873 [15:31] <Precastwig> but it never worked for me before
#874 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Precastwig: Idea:
#875 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> open a terminal window
#876 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> and run the following two commands:
#877 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> mv ~/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft/saves ~/minecraft-saves
#878 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> rm -rf ~/Library\Application\ Support/minecraft
#879 [15:33] <VoxelHead> try the other window
#880 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> then, delete the launcher, and redownload it
#881 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> from:
#882 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> !client
#883 [15:33] <Precastwig> No such file or directory
#884 [15:34] <Precastwig> i've had problems with terminal before
#885 [15:34] <Precastwig> with minecraft servers
#886 [15:34] <Precastwig> it refuses to see anything related to minecraft for no particular reason O_o
#887 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> Precastwig: in response to which fommand?
#888 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> er, command?
#889 [15:35] <Precastwig> The first one
#890 [15:37] <Precastwig> *A wild .bin appears*
#891 [15:37] <Precastwig> Whats this?
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#893 [15:37] <Precastwig> Ok
#894 [15:37] <Precastwig> i didn't have saves in that folder
#895 [15:37] <Precastwig> put it in
#896 [15:37] <Precastwig> both work
#897 [15:37] <Precastwig> reinstall client?
#898 [15:39] <Precastwig> didn't work
#899 [15:39] <Precastwig> Same error
#900 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> pastebin the output of java -version?
#901 [15:39] <DopeGhoti> also, what flavor of OSX have you?
#902 [15:40] <Precastwig> Urm where did my saves go
#903 [15:40] <Precastwig> =/
#904 [15:40] <DopeGhoti> into ~/minecraft-saves
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#906 [15:41] <Precastwig> And where would one find that
#907 [15:41] <Precastwig> oh
#908 [15:41] <Precastwig> Found it
#909 [15:41] <Precastwig> =P
#910 [15:41] <Precastwig> Also
#911 [15:41] <Precastwig> I have 10.6.7
#912 [15:42] <Precastwig> and i have no idea what the other question is
#913 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> run the following command, also on Terminal:
#914 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> java -version
#915 [15:43] <DopeGhoti> copy the output, and put it up on pastebin
#916 [15:43] <Precastwig> java version "1.6.0_24"
#917 [15:43] <Precastwig> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07-334-10M3326)
#918 [15:43] <Precastwig> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.1-b02-334, mixed mode)
#919 [15:43] <Precastwig> Felixs-iMac:~ chikincheng$
#920 [15:43] <Precastwig> (Shows name)
#921 [15:43] <Precastwig> lol oops
#922 [15:43] <Morrolan> Pastebin.com ;)
#923 [15:43] <Precastwig> Oh well
#924 [15:43] <Morrolan> Believe us. :p
#925 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> well, that's what I wanted to see anyhow
#926 [15:44] <Precastwig> lolk
#927 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> so you have a good version of Java
#928 [15:44] <Precastwig> Umhum
#929 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> and the smae version of OS X that I do
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#931 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> and MC works just fine on my Mac.
#932 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> and you're removed the binaries entirely, re-updated, and it still doesn't work?
#933 [15:44] <Precastwig> It did this morning on mine too
#934 [15:44] <Precastwig> Yes
#935 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> I'm totally stymied
#936 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> other than to suggest that I really hope 1.6 works for you :/
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#938 [15:45] <Precastwig> lawl =(
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#941 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> sorry ):
#942 [15:49] <Precastwig> Aweh, its cool, i'll just play starcraft 2
#943 [15:49] <Precastwig> ^_^
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#950 [16:03] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Hey guys. Using a stock 1.5_01 and I was wondering something about the "Peaceful" difficulty.
#951 [16:03] <Morrolan> Yea?
#952 [16:04] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> I mined my way into a dungeon and every so often, I see puffs of white smoke, as if I killed something. Does Peaceful disable the appearance of monsters, or set all monsters to 0 hearts, spawn and disappear?
#953 [16:04] <Morrolan> I think if peaceful is set it just removes any monster as soon as it spawns.
#954 [16:04] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> (Actually, mined my way into a goal. I laughed)
#955 [16:04] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Ah. And it just spawns the death animation/
#956 [16:05] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Still, it's freaky. :P
#957 [16:05] <Morrolan> Hmm, tbh I've never noticed it, but it could be, yea.
#958 [16:05] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> I have to keep the game on peaceful because of lag on a Linux system.
#959 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> It's kind of cool actually, that Peaceful can retain that level of creepy (:
#960 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> I think those may be instantly-despawning slimes.
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#962 [16:06] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Maybe.
#963 [16:08] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> If I were able to use propritary, Windows-only drivers on my Linux system, that might optimize the graphics enough to make it somewhat playable beyond simple mining and building, but I don't really want to mess with it too much.
#964 [16:09] <xolotl> ThereIsOnlyXUL: What graphics card do you have?
#965 [16:10] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> SImple onboard graphics.
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#967 [16:10] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Onboard graphics, single-core CPU. Not too cheap a laptop, Cheap laptop, workhorse.
#968 [16:11] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Whoops, lol.
#969 [16:11] <VoxelHead> Yes, my master.
#970 [16:11] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> I meant to say it's a cheap laptop, and basically a workstation. Not really made for gaming too much.
#971 [16:11] <xolotl> Ah, yeah, those can be problematic
#972 [16:11] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Hang on, gonna remind myself how to spit out a log with lshw.
#973 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> Biz laptops usually have pretty crummy GPUs ):
#974 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> ThereIsOnlyXUL: `sudo lshw | pastebinit`
#975 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> (assuming you have pastebinit installed)
#976 [16:15] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Nah, I'll put it in a paste somewhere.
#977 [16:18] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Provided I can figure out where the **** it is. I run the command, but it outputs no log. Oh well, just make a term profile for unlimited scroll I guess. :P
#978 [16:21] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> http://pastebin.com/GJHReeZS
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#980 [16:22] <Precastwig> Ok so minecraft is just plain not working, i think its time to resort to some objectional methods
#981 [16:23] <Precastwig> Anyone with a mac willing to help me with some 'unorthodox' fixes? =P
#982 [16:24] <Tanjoodo_iPod> 1- take off your pants
#983 [16:24] <Precastwig> Hmmm
#984 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> Precastwig: well, you could try dual-booting Linux
#985 [16:24] <Tanjoodo_iPod> :P
#986 [16:24] <Precastwig> Hahaha
#987 [16:24] <VoxelHead> prepare yourselves for destruction
#988 [16:24] <Precastwig> linux
#989 [16:24] <Precastwig> lol
#990 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> ..?
#991 [16:25] <Precastwig> I could dual boot windows
#992 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> you do realise that you are already running BSD, which is just as POSIX as Linux, right?
#993 [16:25] <Precastwig> because thats already set up
#994 [16:25] <Precastwig> no i didn't
#995 [16:25] <Precastwig> i have no clue about linux
#996 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> OS X is BSD (:
#997 [16:25] <Kealper> ^
#998 [16:25] <Precastwig> BSD is?
#999 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> it just has a candy shell around it
#1000 [16:26] <Precastwig> I see
#1001 [16:26] <Kealper> Unix
#1002 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> BSD is a POSIX implementation
#1003 [16:26] <Precastwig> Oh
#1004 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> as is Linux
#1005 [16:26] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> DopeGhoti: I know some fellows in #ubuntu-offtopic@irc.freenode.net that would object to Mac being as POSIX as any form of Linux.
#1006 [16:26] <Precastwig> How would one do this
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#1008 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> ThereIsOnlyXUL: Linux != BSD, but BSD and Linux are both POSIX
#1009 [16:27] <Precastwig> If it takes longer than 20 minutes then i cant be bothered
#1010 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> Precastwig: installing an OS usually does take more than ~20m, yes.
#1011 [16:27] <Precastwig> Aweh
#1012 [16:27] <Kealper> Ubuntu 11.04 installs in less than 15 min, iirc
#1013 [16:28] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Well, the ultimate alternative would be to back up your saves, your minecraft gar and other non-stock folders and format your Mac. Aside from that I can't help.
#1014 [16:28] <Precastwig> Well i was thinking that another mac user could send me the .bin and resource files
#1015 [16:28] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Ahem...
#1016 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> ThereIsOnlyXUL: I wasn't even aware that there was an irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu-offtopic
#1017 [16:28] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> minecraft.jar, excuse me.
#1018 [16:28] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> DopeGhoti: Learn something new every day.
#1019 [16:28] <Precastwig> Those files don;t exist
#1020 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
#1021 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> I try to
#1022 [16:28] <Precastwig> Don't*
#1023 [16:28] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> irc.ubuntu.com is just a redirect to irc.freenode.net.
#1024 [16:29] <Kealper> TIL!
#1025 [16:29] <Precastwig> TLO
#1026 [16:29] <Precastwig> What are we doing?
#1027 [16:29] <Kealper> i was under the impression Ubuntu ran their own network
#1028 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> ThereIsOnlyXUL: this I knew (:
#1029 [16:31] <Precastwig> So no one wants to send me minecraft files?
#1030 [16:31] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Precastwig: Well, depends on whether you bought it legally or pirated it. And we're not going into that discussion.
#1031 [16:31] <Precastwig> I bought it legally
#1032 [16:32] <Kealper> actually we're not supposed to either way
#1033 [16:32] <Precastwig> ;-;
#1034 [16:32] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Also, we all follow the golden rule of Notch: Do not distribute.
#1035 [16:32] <Precastwig> BUT
#1036 [16:32] <Precastwig> ;-;
#1037 [16:32] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> No!
#1038 [16:32] <Precastwig> ;(
#1039 [16:32] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Lol, I'm sorry!
#1040 [16:32] * VoxelHead gets out a board game for Precastwig
#1040 [16:32] <Precastwig> Haha
#1041 [16:32] <Precastwig> *cries*
#1042 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> ??> Precastwig distribution
#1043 [16:33] <VoxelHead> Precastwig: (distribution) Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#1044 [16:33] <VoxelHead> Precastwig: (distribution) This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#1045 [16:34] <Precastwig> ;-;
#1046 [16:34] <Precastwig> Fuck minecraft
#1047 [16:34] <Precastwig> Its starcraft time
#1048 [16:35] * Kealper waves
#1048 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> I don't even want to know about the topolical implications of that directive.
#1049 [16:35] <Precastwig> *waves back*
#1050 [16:35] <Kealper> /me waves <-- bleh
#1051 [16:36] <Precastwig> *cries*
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#1053 [16:38] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Aww why is Precastwig crying?
#1054 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> because we were unable to fix his persistent problem and will not violate Mojang's stated distribution policies.
#1055 [16:39] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Uh, because we won't help him fix his copy of minecraft under the no distribution rule.
#1056 [16:39] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Oh, thanks Dope.
#1057 [16:39] <Precastwig> Yeah
#1058 [16:39] <Precastwig> Pretty much
#1059 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> (and ey is not willing to try the dual-boot option)
#1060 [16:39] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> lol
#1061 [16:39] <Precastwig> HEY
#1062 [16:39] <Precastwig> IM LAZY
#1063 [16:39] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE LAZY? feel these nipples!
#1064 [16:40] <Precastwig> *Grab*
#1065 [16:40] <Kealper> most appropriate time for vox to do that
#1066 [16:40] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#1067 [16:40] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Go buy the game again. :P
#1068 [16:40] <Precastwig> lawl
#1069 [16:40] <Precastwig> no
#1070 [16:40] <Precastwig> I have no money
#1071 [16:41] <Precastwig> and im saving for new PC
#1072 [16:41] * ThereIsOnlyXUL nods
#1072 [16:41] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Whenever you can, buy the game and support MOjang.
#1073 [16:41] <Kealper> didn't he already say he bought it legally?
#1074 [16:41] <Precastwig> But it no worky
#1075 [16:42] <Precastwig> Even with re DL
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#1077 [16:43] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> Anybody can say they bought it, lol
#1078 [16:44] <Kealper> !paid Precastwig
#1079 [16:44] <Kealper> ^
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#1081 [16:44] <Precastwig> =P
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#1083 [16:45] <Kealper> i wonder if it's something with permissions?
#1084 [16:45] <Precastwig> Nope
#1085 [16:45] <Precastwig> Worked this morning
#1086 [16:45] <Kealper> did you install anything since it stopped working?
#1087 [16:46] <Precastwig> Nope
#1088 [16:46] <Precastwig> I just reinstalled it
#1089 [16:46] <Kealper> did the software center do any updating?
#1090 [16:46] <Precastwig> (mac)
#1091 [16:47] <Precastwig> So no
#1092 [16:47] <Kealper> if i thought you were on windows, i would have said Windows Update >.>
#1093 [16:47] <Precastwig> Olol
#1094 [16:47] <Precastwig> I dont call it that
#1095 [16:47] <Precastwig> so i was confused
#1096 [16:47] <Precastwig> But no
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#1098 [16:48] <Kealper> so it just spontaneously stopped working without any change to your computer?
#1099 [16:48] <Precastwig> I re installed it
#1100 [16:48] <Precastwig> then it stopped working
#1101 [16:48] <Precastwig> which doesn't make sense
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#1103 [16:48] <Kealper> indeed
#1104 [16:49] <Kealper> and you can get on minecraft.net just fine?
#1105 [16:49] <Precastwig> yep
#1106 [16:49] <Precastwig> What do
#1107 [16:49] * Kealper has no idea
#1107 [16:50] <Precastwig> *plays starcraft instead because overall its a much better game*
#1108 [16:50] <Kealper> now now, bashing a game just because your computer hates it isn't civil >.>
#1109 [16:51] <Precastwig> =P fiine
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#1111 [16:52] <shapeshifter_ex> hey friends this isnt nessarly minecraft related.... but whats a good irc client i could use?
#1112 [16:52] <AkiTensai> VoxelHead: How long until 1.6 is released?
#1113 [16:52] <VoxelHead> as long as I can hold my breath
#1114 [16:52] <Kealper> depends, what OS?
#1115 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> "when it's done"
#1116 [16:52] <Precastwig> Adium works for IRC for some reason
#1117 [16:52] <shapeshifter_ex> xp
#1118 [16:52] <AkiTensai> Ouch. Bots can hold their breath for a long time.
#1119 [16:52] <shapeshifter_ex> and akitensai apparently 186 daYSA
#1120 [16:52] <shapeshifter_ex> days*
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#1122 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_ex: that's not 1.6; that's departure from Beta.
#1123 [16:53] <shapeshifter_ex> ahh
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#1125 [16:54] <AkiTensai> Minecraft 2.0 in 186 days ^.^ *version number pending.
#1126 [16:55] <shapeshifter_ex> qustion number 2 anyone know any online chatrooms thats mainly for roleplaying?
#1127 [16:55] <AkiTensai> shapeshifter_ex: First, you'll need to define a subject of intrest, second you will need to find a google search engine. :P
#1128 [16:56] <oldtopman> shapeshifter_ex: #idle
#1129 [16:56] <shapeshifter_ex> ZOMG where can i find a google search engine
#1130 [16:56] <AkiTensai> shapeshifter_ex: I've been searching for years, but have not found the holy grail.
#1131 [16:57] <shapeshifter_ex> D=
#1132 [16:57] <shapeshifter_ex> and thanks oldtopman
#1133 [16:57] <shapeshifter_ex> youve always been there for me =P
#1134 [16:57] <oldtopman> I suppose so...
#1135 [16:57] <Kealper> #idle isn't really....
#1136 [16:58] <Kealper> i doubt that is what he is looking for lol
#1137 [16:58] <AkiTensai> >D
#1138 [16:58] <shapeshifter_ex> lulz
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#1140 [16:58] <oldtopman> Kealper: I wasn't going to tell him that.
#1141 [16:59] <shapeshifter_ex> i need a semi active rp room with a few members
#1142 [16:59] <shapeshifter_ex> lolz
#1143 [16:59] <Kealper> #idle has loads of people in it...but as the channel name says, the purpose is to remain idle lol
#1144 [16:59] <shapeshifter_ex> lulz
#1145 [16:59] <shapeshifter_ex> and i cant send messages T.T
#1146 [17:00] <shapeshifter_ex> and akitensai my subject of intrest is anything T.T
#1147 [17:01] <shapeshifter_ex> i could careless what the rp is about,...
#1148 [17:01] <VoxelHead> Whatless care.
#1149 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_ex: you can find a pretty good Google search engine here: http://www.google.com
#1150 [17:01] <shapeshifter_ex> i hate bots T.T
#1151 [17:01] <Kealper> proper English would be that you couldn't care less...saying you could care less means there are subjects you actually could care less than the target about
#1152 [17:01] <shapeshifter_ex> no i tried that one gave me a virus =\
#1153 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_ex: that only happens if you use it improperly
#1154 [17:02] <shapeshifter_ex> well kealper i dont speak english
#1155 [17:02] <shapeshifter_ex> i speak american =P
#1156 [17:02] <Kealper> shapeshifter_ex: fair enough
#1157 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> the same rule applies to American english.
#1158 [17:02] * Tanjoodo_iPod [Tanjoodo_iPod@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1159 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> 'not' still means 'not'.
#1160 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> as does 'less', 'less'.
#1161 [17:03] <shapeshifter_ex> tell that to the majority of america
#1162 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> I don't have that much of a media footprint.
#1163 [17:03] <shapeshifter_ex> i think you do
#1164 [17:03] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Yes you do, you just don't know it.
#1165 [17:03] <shapeshifter_ex> my jaw hurts =\
#1166 [17:03] <DopeGhoti> I tried sending an email to *@* once. It bounced.
#1167 [17:04] <shapeshifter_ex> i have no idea why...
#1168 [17:04] <Kealper> :<
#1169 [17:04] <shapeshifter_ex> one sec gonna grab some green tea
#1170 [17:05] <DopeGhoti> mmm, tea
#1171 [17:06] <shapeshifter_ex> mhm its sooo good =3
#1172 [17:06] <shapeshifter_ex> fresh brewed
#1173 [17:06] <DopeGhoti> swanky
#1174 [17:07] <shapeshifter_ex> ohh and to give you an idea of the stupidness of the people where i live they spell fresh freash
#1175 [17:07] <AkiTensai> I still haven't meet this majority of Americans.
#1176 [17:07] <Kealper> AkiTensai: consider yourself lucky
#1177 [17:07] <shapeshifter_ex> ikr
#1178 [17:07] * AkiTensai does a happy dance.
#1178 [17:08] * DopeGhoti does Balki's Dance of Joy.
#1178 [17:08] * shapeshifter_ex smacks a tree*
#1178 [17:08] * Kealper goes back to playing an MMO
#1178 [17:08] <shapeshifter_ex> play runescape >:O
#1179 [17:08] <Kealper> that was cool when i was in 7th grade.....
#1180 [17:09] <shapeshifter_ex> well since ive been playing since beta T.T
#1181 [17:09] * Kealper has to kill 300 Sand Raiders
#1181 [17:09] <shapeshifter_ex> gayyy
#1182 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> Please don't misuse that word in that manner here.
#1183 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> This is your second warning on this.
#1184 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> Future infractions will be dealt wtih in a less cordial manner.
#1185 [17:10] <shapeshifter_ex> i do not mean it as a derogatory meaning =\
#1186 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> actually, you did, by equating 'gay' with some form of 'bad'.
#1187 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> Do don't.
#1188 [17:11] <DopeGhoti> So don't, rather.
#1189 [17:12] <shapeshifter_ex> alright i am sorry ill try to controll it better
#1190 [17:12] <DopeGhoti> We'd appreciate it.
#1191 [17:12] <shapeshifter_ex> my jaw still hurts =\
#1192 [17:13] <Precastwig> I have the munchies
#1193 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> vox, give shapeshifter_ex some asprin
#1194 [17:13] <Precastwig> just sayin'
#1195 [17:13] * VoxelHead gives shapeshifter_ex some asprin
#1195 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> vox, make Precastwig a sandwich
#1196 [17:13] * VoxelHead replicates a sandwich and hands it to Precastwig
#1196 [17:13] <Kealper> i have a giant Sand Raider
#1197 [17:13] <Precastwig> *Eats sandwich*
#1198 [17:13] <Precastwig> Mmm
#1199 [17:13] <Precastwig> Tasty
#1200 [17:13] <shapeshifter_ex> sorry bout that
#1201 [17:13] <shapeshifter_ex> accadently refreshed T.T
#1202 [17:13] <Precastwig> Its ok
#1203 [17:14] <Precastwig> We didn't miss you
#1204 [17:14] <shapeshifter_ex> owch
#1205 [17:14] <Precastwig> loljk
#1206 [17:14] <Precastwig> =P
#1207 [17:14] <shapeshifter_ex> ima go cry now
#1208 [17:14] <shapeshifter_ex> thanks
#1209 [17:14] <shapeshifter_ex> =[
#1210 [17:14] <Precastwig> Sorry
#1211 [17:14] <Precastwig> ^_^
#1212 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> no one shot at you either, so don't feel bad about not being missed.
#1213 [17:14] <Precastwig> <3
#1214 [17:14] <VoxelHead> ;)
#1215 [17:14] <Precastwig> Nohomo
#1216 [17:14] <Kealper> >.>
#1217 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> *facepalm*
#1218 [17:14] <Precastwig> lol
#1219 [17:15] <shapeshifter_ex> may i say something about the phrase "nohomo"?
#1220 [17:15] <Precastwig> go ahead
#1221 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> you can even type if if you wish.
#1222 [17:15] <Precastwig> im just saying im not homosexual
#1223 [17:15] <shapeshifter_ex> well im my experiance most of the people who say no homo actualy are closet homosexuals
#1224 [17:16] <Precastwig> O_O
#1225 [17:16] <Precastwig> I'VE BEEN FOUND OUT
#1226 [17:16] <Kealper> ugh... 87 out of 300 Sand Raiders
#1227 [17:16] <Precastwig> AHHHH
#1228 [17:16] <shapeshifter_ex> D=\
#1229 [17:16] <Precastwig> GET IN ANOTHER CLOSET
#1230 [17:16] <Precastwig> QUICK
#1231 [17:16] <Precastwig> QUICK
#1232 [17:16] <Precastwig> ^_^
#1233 [17:16] <VoxelHead> -_-
#1234 [17:16] <Kealper> the key that's about 1/4 inch to the left of your "A" key
#1235 [17:16] <Precastwig> Yeah i'll tell my girlfriend that when she gets home
#1236 [17:17] <Precastwig> Didn't press that shift
#1237 [17:17] <shapeshifter_ex> im bored
#1238 [17:17] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE bored? feel these nipples!
#1239 [17:17] <Precastwig> Play minecraft
#1240 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> read a book
#1241 [17:17] <Precastwig> Play starcraft2
#1242 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> refine your lexicon
#1243 [17:17] <Kealper> oh crap....i died
#1244 [17:17] <shapeshifter_ex> ive read all my books
#1245 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> ressurect Kealper
#1246 [17:17] <shapeshifter_ex> =\
#1247 [17:17] <Precastwig> Watch porn
#1248 [17:18] * Kealper buys more potions and heads back out
#1248 [17:18] <shapeshifter_ex> ill do that later
#1249 [17:18] <Precastwig> Kealper what are you playing?
#1250 [17:18] <Kealper> Silkroad >.>
#1251 [17:18] <Precastwig> I have no clue what that is
#1252 [17:18] <Precastwig> lol
#1253 [17:18] * shapeshifter_ex gives kealper godmode*
#1253 [17:19] <Kealper> Silkroad is one of the more popular free-to-play MMOs
#1254 [17:20] <shapeshifter_ex> i think they need to make glass armor in minecraft
#1255 [17:20] <Kealper> that'd be useless >.>
#1256 [17:20] <shapeshifter_ex> NO IT WOULDNT
#1257 [17:20] <Tanjoodo_iPod> shapeshifter_ex: What would that do?
#1258 [17:20] <Precastwig> MMO's are annoying and silly
#1259 [17:20] <shapeshifter_ex> protect you from lava =D
#1260 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> protect you totally from exactly one hit?
#1261 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> a la FF's glass swords?
#1262 [17:20] <Precastwig> play strategy games
#1263 [17:20] <Kealper> ^
#1264 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> (which do a lot of damage.. once)
#1265 [17:20] <Tanjoodo_iPod> We need underwater equipment in Minecradr
#1266 [17:21] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Minecraft*
#1267 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> SCUBA gear has been announced
#1268 [17:21] <Kealper> Tanjoodo_iPod: already been suggested by Notch himself
#1269 [17:21] <shapeshifter_ex> we do nhave underwater equipment
#1270 [17:21] <Precastwig> We need better minecraft in minecraft
#1271 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> in the meantime, just put a door on the ocean floor
#1272 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> instant air pocket
#1273 [17:21] <Tanjoodo_iPod> DopeGhoti: I do that ;3
#1274 [17:21] <shapeshifter_ex> lolz
#1275 [17:22] <VoxelHead> i like them :-)
#1276 [17:22] <shapeshifter_ex> I_eat_plastic you in here?'
#1277 [17:22] * Kealper continues the slaughter of many a Sand Raider
#1277 [17:22] <Precastwig> Anyone who watches X on youtube hes live on justin.tv
#1278 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> but I don't watch him on juston.tv; I watch him on Youtube.
#1279 [17:23] <Precastwig> He doesn't show all the stuff he does on youtube
#1280 [17:23] <Precastwig> + This is live
#1281 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> + I am at work, with one of the owners of the company in the room
#1282 [17:24] <shapeshifter_ex> CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!
#1283 [17:24] <Precastwig> Haha ok
#1284 [17:24] <VoxelHead> LEAVE NO EVIDENCE~*£#£~!%percent@%percent£.
#1285 [17:24] <Precastwig> Where do you work?
#1286 [17:24] <DopeGhoti> capslock is cool for "I need to be told to stop shouting."
#1287 [17:24] <Kealper> anyone think i'd be funny if i made AuBot kick for excessive caps?
#1288 [17:24] <Kealper> it'd*
#1289 [17:24] <shapeshifter_ex> why was i given owner
#1290 [17:25] <shapeshifter_ex> lulz
#1291 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: +q would be more reasonable.
#1292 [17:25] <Kealper> +q isn't owner
#1293 [17:25] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: +q, owner.
#1294 [17:25] <Kealper> +q is quiet
#1295 [17:26] * shapeshifter_ex starts playing on my psp in the corrner*
#1295 [17:26] <shapeshifter_ex> i have a qustion for everyone
#1296 [17:26] <Precastwig> Go ahead
#1297 [17:26] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#1298 [17:26] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1299 [17:26] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1300 [17:27] <shapeshifter_ex> if playstation gose bankrupt will it still be illeagle to download there games?
#1301 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#1302 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> If by that you meant 'illegal'.
#1303 [17:27] <shapeshifter_ex> yes
#1304 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> and 'goes'
#1305 [17:27] <shapeshifter_ex> i am a horrid speller T.T
#1306 [17:27] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go T_T
#1307 [17:27] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :And if by 'gose' you meant 'goose', then that sentence makes no sense. If you meant 'goes', however...
#1308 [17:27] <DopeGhoti> (how can you spell 'bankrupt' correctly, but not 'goes'?!)
#1309 [17:28] <shapeshifter_ex> beacuse
#1310 [17:28] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Lol
#1311 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> also.. 'their'.
#1312 [17:28] <shapeshifter_ex> i can spell certin words right
#1313 [17:28] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :shapeshifter_ex: darp! Spellcheck before you press enter before I murder myself.
#1314 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> tell you what: why not reform your question in the form of a question?
#1315 [17:28] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Spelling Nazi
#1316 [17:28] <VoxelHead> basically, Spelling Nazi... Spazi
#1317 [17:28] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Use an IRC client with a spellchecker if you need to! :P
#1318 [17:28] <Kealper> xchat?
#1319 [17:28] <shapeshifter_ex> or
#1320 [17:28] <aetherian> xD
#1321 [17:28] <shapeshifter_ex> i couldnot XD
#1322 [17:28] <aetherian> spazi
#1323 [17:29] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper: yes :P
#1324 [17:29] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :T'was what I had in mind.
#1325 [17:29] <shapeshifter_ex> wtf is xchat?
#1326 [17:29] <Kealper> irc client for windows
#1327 [17:29] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :shapeshifter_ex: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xchat
#1328 [17:29] <aetherian> and others
#1329 [17:29] <shapeshifter_ex> luke
#1330 [17:29] <shapeshifter_ex> i dont like you now
#1331 [17:29] <aetherian> lukegb, +1
#1332 [17:29] <shapeshifter_ex> T.T
#1333 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> lukegb: o/
#1334 [17:30] <aetherian> but
#1335 [17:30] <aetherian> it's better done with bit.ly
#1336 [17:30] * DopeGhoti prefers is.gd
#1336 [17:30] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :aetherian: I typed that out.
#1337 [17:30] <aetherian> well
#1338 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> (it's even shorterer!)
#1339 [17:30] <aetherian> anything but tinyURL
#1340 [17:30] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :aetherian: I didn't go on the site. That'd be ghey.
#1341 [17:30] <shapeshifter_ex> is it wrong that im ingoreing my girlfriend?
#1342 [17:30] <aetherian> morally or fiscally?
#1343 [17:30] <DopeGhoti> Seriously: Don't.
#1344 [17:31] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp ::(
#1345 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> we just had this discussion in here.
#1346 [17:31] * Kealper slaps lukegb
#1346 [17:31] <Tanjoodo_iPod> No, but ignoring could be a problem.
#1347 [17:31] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :What discussion?
#1348 [17:31] <aetherian> what
#1349 [17:31] <shapeshifter_ex> thanks tanjoodo
#1350 [17:31] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :aetherian: s/tinyurl/makeashorterlink/
#1351 [17:31] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Fixed for you.
#1352 [17:31] <DopeGhoti> adding an aitch to the word does not make hurtful, bigoted misusages of words acceptable.
#1353 [17:31] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Okay.
#1354 [17:31] <shapeshifter_ex> btw
#1355 [17:32] <aetherian> ohh
#1356 [17:32] <shapeshifter_ex> what will i have to do to get voice? o.o
#1357 [17:32] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :That'd be 'retarded' (no offense meant towards actual retards)
#1358 [17:32] <shapeshifter_ex> it would be turned around?
#1359 [17:32] * DopeGhoti sighs
#1359 [17:32] <Kealper> retarded actually means to be slow
#1360 [17:32] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper: it would be slow.
#1361 [17:32] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Hence my usage was correct.
#1362 [17:32] <Kealper> ._.
#1363 [17:33] <shapeshifter_ex> and hatewords only carry the power you let them carry
#1364 [17:33] <aetherian> but why let them be carried at all
#1365 [17:34] <shapeshifter_ex> personaly i dont find any words to be offencive... but thats just me
#1366 [17:34] <Kealper> but others might
#1367 [17:35] * aetherian changes the topic
#1367 [17:35] <aetherian> hey look guys chocolate cake
#1368 [17:35] * Kealper has grinders waiting for him
#1368 [17:35] <Tanjoodo_iPod> Omnomnom
#1369 [17:35] * shapeshifter_ex *jumps on the cake*
#1369 [17:36] <Tanjoodo_iPod> HEY! I WAS EATING THAT!
#1370 [17:36] <aetherian> um
#1371 [17:36] <shapeshifter_ex> *rolls all over the cake*
#1372 [17:36] <aetherian> asterisks aren't necessary in conjunction with /me ...
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#1374 [17:36] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Kealper: also, I can use retarded freely now, so long as I avoid referring to MR. Whoop.
#1375 [17:36] <VoxelHead> yay... i'm gonna be sick
#1376 [17:36] <aetherian> vox ate all the cake
#1377 [17:36] <fizyplankton> im running ubuntu 10.04. if i install both the sun java and the open jdk java, will the 2 conflict? will minecraft still work fine with sun, and everything else still work fine with open jdk?
#1378 [17:37] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Anyway.
#1379 [17:37] <aetherian> it'll just use one of the other, fizy
#1380 [17:37] <shapeshifter_ex> try it and see
#1381 [17:37] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :fizyplankton: ubuntu has an alternatives system
#1382 [17:37] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :That allows choice between two systems that implement the same executables.
#1383 [17:37] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :And/or libraries.
#1384 [17:38] <Kealper> 238/300
#1385 [17:38] <shapeshifter_ex> anyone wana watch me cook calbasa?
#1386 [17:38] <shapeshifter_ex> o.o
#1387 [17:38] <Kealper> kielbasa
#1388 [17:38] <shapeshifter_ex> heilbasa for the grammer nazis
#1389 [17:39] <aetherian> ...
#1390 [17:39] <fizyplankton> ok. im currently using sun java, but alot of webpages arent working properly, and after looking through the source code, my limited knowledge of HTML tells me that its a javascript issue
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#1392 [17:39] <aetherian> javascript!=java
#1393 [17:39] <fizyplankton> the source code of the web bages that arent eworking, that it
#1394 [17:39] <fizyplankton> is*
#1395 [17:39] <Kealper> javascript .......damnit aetherian
#1396 [17:39] <fizyplankton> aetherian: i know
#1397 [17:39] <aetherian> so zetta slow, Kealper
#1398 [17:39] <Kealper> i'm eating >.>
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#1400 [17:39] <aetherian> odd
#1401 [17:39] <aetherian> I'm typing
#1402 [17:39] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE typing? feel these nipples!
#1403 [17:40] <aetherian> wat
#1404 [17:40] <Kealper> ^
#1405 [17:40] <aetherian> besides
#1406 [17:40] <aetherian> I'm playing a game right besides this
#1407 [17:40] <fizyplankton> can someone please shova a radio tower up voxel's ass please?
#1408 [17:40] <Kealper> like seriously.... a 6" Mancino's grinder = win
#1409 [17:40] <aetherian> I mean writing a paper.
#1410 [17:40] <aetherian> I cooked myself eggs for lunch
#1411 [17:41] <aetherian> there was nothing els
#1412 [17:41] <aetherian> *else
#1413 [17:41] <shapeshifter_ex> lolwut
#1414 [17:41] <Kealper> vox, activate FM transmissions
#1415 [17:41] <VoxelHead> FM transmissions engaged#~^£!~%percent$@
#1416 [17:42] <aetherian> VoxelHead: what station?
#1417 [17:42] <shapeshifter_ex> why is vox a bot T.T
#1418 [17:42] <VoxelHead> french fries of course!
#1419 [17:42] <VoxelHead> No.
#1420 [17:42] <shapeshifter_ex> yes vox you are a bot
#1421 [17:42] * aetherian tunes into french fries
#1421 [17:46] <shapeshifter_ex> *ackward silence*
#1422 [17:46] <Kealper> 260/300
#1423 [17:47] <Kealper> so close...yet so far ._.
#1424 [17:48] * shapeshifter_ex licks kealpers sandpeople*
#1424 [17:48] <Kealper> o.o
#1425 [17:48] <shapeshifter_ex> they taste good
#1426 [17:49] <Kealper> man these things suck....they keep killing me
#1427 [17:49] <shapeshifter_ex> HEY
#1428 [17:49] <shapeshifter_ex> dont say suck
#1429 [17:49] <VoxelHead> Say = sausage-cannon.
#1430 [17:49] <shapeshifter_ex> XD
#1431 [17:49] <Kealper> >.>
#1432 [17:50] <shapeshifter_ex> i love voxel
#1433 [17:50] <VoxelHead> Hehe, want to go out on a date someplace? :)
#1434 [17:50] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :VoxelBoxel
#1435 [17:50] <shapeshifter_ex> as long as you buy voxy
#1436 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> vox, do you like shapeshifter_ex?
#1437 [17:50] <shapeshifter_ex> dooopppsss
#1438 [17:50] <shapeshifter_ex> vox is pming me naughty messages
#1439 [17:51] * Tanjoodo_iPod_ [Tanjoodo_iPod_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1440 [17:52] <shapeshifter_ex> T.T
#1441 [17:54] <shapeshifter_ex> Dopeghoti i think voxel is cheating on you
#1442 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> explain.
#1443 [17:54] <shapeshifter_ex> just a hunch
#1444 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> I am not in a relationshop (other than ownership) with VoxelHead.
#1445 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> Vox can boff whomever it wishes to.
#1446 [17:54] <shapeshifter_ex> thats not what he told me =\
#1447 [17:55] <Kealper> do you mean to say vox is cheating on EllieG? :O
#1448 [17:55] <shapeshifter_ex> nope
#1449 [17:55] <shapeshifter_ex> I_eat_plastic!!!!
#1450 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> shapeshifter_ex: that's bad for you.
#1451 [17:56] <shapeshifter_ex> >.> im trying to get his attention
#1452 [17:56] <shapeshifter_ex> i need to ask him if he has bukkit installed in our server yet
#1453 [17:57] <Tanjoodo_iPod> But really, you should lay off the plastic.
#1454 [17:57] <shapeshifter_ex> thanks for that T.T
#1455 [17:57] <shapeshifter_ex> i think ill keep eating it
#1456 [17:57] <Tanjoodo_iPod> >.>
#1457 [17:58] * Kealper is off to kill 500 Wenegs now
#1457 [18:08] <outsomnia> ugh
#1458 [18:08] <outsomnia> tried minecraft on home network
#1459 [18:08] <outsomnia> still getting failed to connect error
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#1467 [18:40] <ThereIsOnlyXUL> SHould I feel good or bad about trapping a sheep in a 2x2 area behind glass?
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#1470 [18:48] <VoxelHead> we have no time for these games#£~#$$*$$£$
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#1472 [19:02] <Precastwig> Bye
#1473 [19:02] <Precastwig> Thanks for the help =)
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#1475 [19:04] <VoxelHead> mmm wurtz
#1476 [19:07] <Kaito> is there a channel for multicraft help on here?
#1477 [19:07] <[L]> Multicraft?
#1478 [19:07] <Kaito> I got a server with minecrafthost.ca, and they are having me download multicraft to run the server
#1479 [19:07] <Kaito> or something
#1480 [19:08] <[L]> UH>>
#1481 [19:08] <[L]> What is multicraft?
#1482 [19:08] <[L]> Custom server or a plugin or what?
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#1484 [19:08] <Kaito> Multi-server management tool
#1485 [19:08] <Kealper> multicraft is probably a Bukkit plugin
#1486 [19:08] <Kealper> o
#1487 [19:08] <Kealper> oh*
#1488 [19:09] <Kaito> and im trying to follow the directions, but it's not working
#1489 [19:09] <Kaito> D:
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#1491 [19:12] <Mysfit> Does anyone know the average verification time after purchasing beta?
#1492 [19:12] <Kaito> is'nt it like 24 hours?
#1493 [19:12] <Kealper> should be just a few minutes
#1494 [19:12] <Kaito> oh
#1495 [19:12] <Kaito> lol
#1496 [19:13] <Kealper> but it can take longer if you purchased with a credit card instead of Paypal
#1497 [19:13] <Mysfit> so far it has been about 23mins
#1498 [19:13] <Mysfit> bingo
#1499 [19:13] <VoxelHead> you just sunk my battleship
#1500 [19:13] <Kaito> I bought mine in alpha :P (less than a month before it switched to beta)
#1501 [19:14] <Mysfit> so what everyone is saying is, I'm technically screwed
#1502 [19:14] <VoxelHead> The best kind of screwed
#1503 [19:14] <Mysfit> ah good
#1504 [19:14] <Kealper> Mysfit: yeah, i'd say wait another 30 min or so, if the payment still hasn't gone though, then check to make sure your card issuer allowed the payment
#1505 [19:15] <Mysfit> gotcha
#1506 [19:15] <Kealper> and if everything seems fine on your card's end after that 30 min are up....fire an email off to payment@mojang.com and explain your situation
#1507 [19:15] <Mysfit> thanks for the help and the simpsons referrence
#1508 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> was it by any chance a prepaid or gift card that happened to have an MC or Visa logo?
#1509 [19:16] <Mysfit> debit and visa, so maybe
#1510 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> ?? prepaid
#1511 [19:16] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#1512 [19:16] <Kealper> it's a debit not a prepaid :/
#1513 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: some gift cards work as debit cards
#1514 [19:17] <Kealper> oh..hmm...
#1515 [19:17] <Mysfit> secondarily screwed?
#1516 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> like the $30 Mastercard I bought three months ago for the express purpose of using for PSN, that would not work for PSN
#1517 [19:18] <Mysfit> was PSN down at the time?
#1518 [19:18] <Kealper> you'd trust PSN? >.>
#1519 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> No
#1520 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> (again: three months ago.)
#1521 [19:18] <Kealper> oh, true
#1522 [19:18] <Mysfit> I don't keep track of PSN, isn't it always down :P
#1523 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> and would I trust them now, with a prepaid card obtained with the express purpose? Probably.
#1524 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> Mysfit: generally not, no
#1525 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> the last couple weeks notwithstanding
#1526 [19:19] <Mysfit> heard sony payed up for it with free things
#1527 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> not yet, but they will
#1528 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> including credit protection services, which is nice.
#1529 [19:20] <Mysfit> i wonder why they are giving you them, they said the credit card info was safe, oh wells
#1530 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> other than the whole weeks-of-downtime thing, I'd say Sony's handling their current ball of crap pretty well
#1531 [19:20] <Mysfit> true
#1532 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> Mysfit: it's a feel-good thing that Sony can do for good PR
#1533 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> "Oh, you're worried? Have some credit monitoring, on us!"
#1534 [19:21] * Tails_155[^w^] [Tails_155[^w^]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1535 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> Also, well, better safe than unexpectedly buying jewlery in Israel or something.
#1536 [19:21] <Tails_155[^w^]> DopeFish, I know you
#1537 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> do you?
#1538 [19:21] <Tails_155[^w^]> or rather of you
#1539 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> do you?
#1540 [19:22] <Mysfit> uh oh
#1541 [19:22] <Tails_155[^w^]> mhm, you like Commander Keen
#1542 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> Among other games.
#1543 [19:22] * Kealper kicked Tails_155[^w^] from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Tails_155[^w^])
#1544 [19:22] <Kealper> was that a bot?
#1545 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> not that I know of
#1546 [19:22] <Kealper> that really looked like a bot
#1547 [19:22] * Tails_155[^w^] [Tails_155[^w^]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1548 [19:22] <Mysfit> kicked him just in case?
#1549 [19:22] <Tails_155[^w^]> ?
#1550 [19:22] <Kealper> oh, so you're not a bot?
#1551 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> uh, hi again?
#1552 [19:23] <Tails_155[^w^]> I am not a bot...
#1553 [19:23] <Mysfit> yeah, he'll admit to it now
#1554 [19:23] <Kealper> well then, carry on
#1555 [19:23] <Tails_155[^w^]> lol
#1556 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I doubt a bot would have put ghoti -> fish together
#1557 [19:23] <Tails_155[^w^]> it's a word game :D
#1558 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> at least, not one that'd waste its time on IRC (:
#1559 [19:23] <Kealper> i just seen random spam that was making no sense and was like "oh hell no!"
#1560 [19:24] <aetherian> wow Kealper
#1561 [19:24] <Mysfit> better safe than bogged down in text
#1562 [19:24] <Tails_155[^w^]> a bot /could/ be programmed to recognize ghoti/fish
#1563 [19:24] <aetherian> just wow
#1564 [19:24] <VoxelHead> Just wow... jow.
#1565 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> so anyhow, person-who-has-heard-of-me; how can #minecrafthelp be of assistance?
#1566 [19:24] <aetherian> hehe
#1567 [19:24] <Tails_155[^w^]> I dunno, I just saw your name when I logged back on
#1568 [19:24] <Tails_155[^w^]> I had trouble with HD textures the other day, thoguh :S
#1569 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> Ah. Well, er, hi then.
#1570 [19:25] * DopeGhoti goes back to work (:
#1570 [19:25] <aetherian> "work"
#1571 [19:26] <Mysfit> I had another question, all i need is the brainpower to remember what it was...
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#1573 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> I think I know what it was.
#1574 [19:27] <Mysfit> oh, do I need to be online and on the verification page during the entire verification
#1575 [19:27] <Mysfit> or can i pass out and land my head on the comp's off button
#1576 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> you mean the purchase process?
#1577 [19:27] <Mysfit> yes
#1578 [19:27] <Mysfit> says verifying
#1579 [19:28] <Mysfit> also says processing so I guess yes
#1580 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> yeah, you'll probably want to leave that tab open to be sure it goes through
#1581 [19:28] <Mysfit> okee, thanks
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#1584 [19:34] <Mysfit> well, thats the 30mins mark, time to yell at bank
#1585 [19:35] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :(
#1586 [19:37] <Mysfit> as you should, and the payment apparantly hasnt been done, should I attempt to set up a paypal account?
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#1588 [19:37] <Tarridon> Hai...
#1589 [19:38] <Mysfit> hi
#1590 [19:38] <Tarridon> I need some help...
#1591 [19:38] <Tarridon> With my server:P
#1592 [19:38] <Mysfit> good place to come for it
#1593 [19:38] <Tarridon> Alright lets get started i guess..
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#1595 [19:39] <Tarridon> Phew, ok i just started it today and forwarded 25565 and checked it, its open fo' sho'.
#1596 [19:39] <Tarridon> and i can't log in to local host or my external ip
#1597 [19:39] <Tarridon> localhost*
#1598 [19:40] <Tarridon> Suggestions/ideas?
#1599 [19:41] <Mysfit> I'm so not the one to ask, but the rules say wait for the helpers to get to it, someone should be able to help
#1600 [19:41] <Tarridon> Are they on or are they afk?
#1601 [19:42] <Mysfit> both, one is chatting but essentially AFK
#1602 [19:42] <Tarridon> Ah.. know when they'll be back?
#1603 [19:43] <Mysfit> no idea, best to wait a little while, my problems got sorted pretty quick
#1604 [19:43] <Tarridon> Alright, thanks:)
#1605 [19:43] <Mysfit> no problem, I'm here to... be helped
#1606 [19:44] <Tarridon> Ha ok
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#1608 [19:49] <JakeTheDog> My computer only has 1gb of ram and I heard there's a way to lower the amount of ram minecraft allocates, how would I do that?
#1609 [19:51] <peru__> download Minecraft.jar from minecraft.net, make mc.bat file with this content: java -Xmx880M -Xms500M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1610 [19:52] <peru__> and then run that bat file ... Xmx is maximum ram Xms is minimum
#1611 [19:52] <VoxelHead> and thaaan?
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#1613 [19:55] <VoxelHead> bye slartie
#1614 [19:56] <JakeTheDog> peru__: ty , it seems to be running better now
#1615 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> Tarridon: what happens when you attempt to connect?
#1616 [19:58] <Tarridon> Oh hi.
#1617 [19:58] <Tarridon> sorry was on youtube...
#1618 [19:59] <Tarridon> Well it connects but when i try to log in i get the java connection refused:connect error.
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#1620 [19:59] <Tarridon> Wehn it starts to log in*
#1621 [19:59] <Tarridon> when*
#1622 [19:59] <The> would somebody be able to help me?
#1623 [20:02] <Guest69660> everytime i try to connect to a server it says fail to connect....to connect to a server do i have to unblock the port 25565 on my router?
#1624 [20:02] <JakeTheDog> No
#1625 [20:02] <Tarridon> Im not a helper but, with my computer it does the same sometimes..
#1626 [20:02] <Guest69660> so what would be the other problem?
#1627 [20:02] <Tarridon> It connects to some servers and connects to others
#1628 [20:02] <JakeTheDog> But server that you cannot connect to are common
#1629 [20:02] <JakeTheDog> Severs*
#1630 [20:02] <JakeTheDog> Its their fault not yours
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#1632 [20:03] <Guest69660> even if its on the public server list?
#1633 [20:03] <JakeTheDog> Yes
#1634 [20:03] <Guest69660> so can some join and not others?
#1635 [20:03] <JakeTheDog> Doubly so in that case
#1636 [20:03] <pachuco> Hey I havearandom question
#1637 [20:03] <JakeTheDog> No, I'm pretty sure not
#1638 [20:03] <JakeTheDog> Just keep looking
#1639 [20:04] <Guest69660> hmm k
#1640 [20:04] <Guest69660> so if one person fails to connect that means everyone else would to right haha?
#1641 [20:04] <Guest69660> sorry for being a pain
#1642 [20:04] <Guest69660> just double checking
#1643 [20:04] <JakeTheDog> Glad to be of service
#1644 [20:05] <JakeTheDog> And yes
#1645 [20:05] <pachuco> I just got minecraft working on Linux but every time I try to join are server it says bad login
#1646 [20:05] <Guest69660> would there be any other reasons that i fail to connecT?
#1647 [20:05] <Tarridon> Not at all, it's the servers fault.
#1648 [20:05] <JakeTheDog> Unless somone has manually blocked mincraft, no
#1649 [20:05] <Tarridon> like Jake said
#1650 [20:06] <Guest69660> hmmm i guess all i can do is keep looking then
#1651 [20:06] <Guest69660> is it a common problem? coz when i look on google it just brings up port forwarding but im sure thats just for when you create one
#1652 [20:06] <JakeTheDog> It is common
#1653 [20:06] <Guest69660> cheers jake
#1654 [20:07] <Guest69660> also i had another problem XD coz im a pain.
#1655 [20:07] <JakeTheDog> And the serverlist can't tell because its a server mod that reports the the list
#1656 [20:07] <Guest69660> erm when i try to create a server
#1657 [20:07] <Guest69660> it cnt create the server properties file...
#1658 [20:07] <JakeTheDog> What os?
#1659 [20:07] <coz> i appreciate you giving me a heads up on that
#1660 [20:07] <Guest69660> vista
#1661 [20:07] <JakeTheDog> Run it as an administrator
#1662 [20:08] <Guest69660> aaaa sweet man
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#1666 [20:09] <Guest69660> holy shit it worked
#1667 [20:09] <Guest69660> hahaha
#1668 [20:09] <Guest69660> rites
#1669 [20:09] <Guest69660> thanks
#1670 [20:09] <Guest69660> in a bit lads
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#1672 [20:09] <Tarridon> Dopeghoti...?
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#1674 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> Tarridon: oh, hi. Sorry, was doing some work at work for once (:
#1675 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> Tarridon: do you see anything on the server log when connection attempts are made?
#1676 [20:18] <Tarridon> Yes, hold on
#1677 [20:18] <Tarridon> ,/192.168.1.66:2926 lost connection
#1678 [20:19] <Tarridon> Lol crumbs to bread
#1679 [20:19] <bread> >:D
#1680 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Hm.
#1681 [20:24] <Tarridon> :(
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#1686 [20:47] <Skellington> Is this minecraft help?
#1687 [20:48] <Lunamon> yes
#1688 [20:48] <Skellington> I need some help.
#1689 [20:48] <Captain-Lightning> hahahahaa
#1690 [20:48] <VoxelHead> who *are* you people
#1691 [20:48] <Skellington> the website won't let me buy the fucking game.
#1692 [20:48] <Captain-Lightning> How so?
#1693 [20:49] <Skellington> Tried going through everything. I even bought another game about five minutes before. Try using it on minecrafts website and it just says authentication denied.
#1694 [20:49] <Skellington> Way more than enough money on there.
#1695 [20:49] <Skellington> All info triple checked. entered correctly.
#1696 [20:50] <Lunamon> What are you using to purchase?
#1697 [20:50] <Skellington> visa debit card
#1698 [20:50] <Skellington> Tried paypal too.
#1699 [20:51] <Lunamon> Debit cards don't work properly with Minecraft
#1700 [20:51] <Skellington> Then why does the website say you can use your visa card...
#1701 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> Skellington: did you try buying Minecraft instead?
#1702 [20:52] <Skellington> What do you mean?
#1703 [20:52] <Skellington> I tried it on their website.
#1704 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> they don't sell any "fucking game" on minecraft.net; only Minecraft.
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#1706 [20:58] <Tarridon> Do you have any solutions Dope?
#1707 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> are there any mods at all on the server?
#1708 [21:02] <Tarridon> Only in the minecraft.jar...
#1709 [21:03] <vapor> I used paypa
#1710 [21:03] <vapor> +l
#1711 [21:03] <vapor> worked fine
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#1713 [21:10] <Tarridon> ?
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#1723 [21:32] <Tarridon> Just got through looking at minecraft forums for solutions, got nothing):
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#1725 [21:32] <lemon-rev> whats up tarridon, i havent seen what you have said before, sorry but whats up ?
#1726 [21:34] <Tarridon> Haha whew.
#1727 [21:34] <VoxelHead> More power... give me MORE POWER£~^**@~~$@~#!^.
#1728 [21:35] <Tarridon> Alright i jus created a server earlier today, and i have port: 25565 opened on my computer, i checked it.
#1729 [21:35] <Tarridon> Ive tried to connect plenty of times and its not doing anythin, even on localhost
#1730 [21:36] <Tarridon> O the server log though it says i've connected.
#1731 [21:36] * Lunamon gives Voxel more power
#1731 [21:37] <VoxelHead> Just what i've always wanted =D.
#1732 [21:37] <Tarridon> It actually connnects, just doesn't log in
#1733 [21:37] <Tarridon> connects*
#1734 [21:38] <xales> Tarridon: What do you mean?
#1735 [21:44] <Tarridon> It says Connectiong to server...
#1736 [21:44] <Tarridon> conecting*
#1737 [21:44] <Tarridon> -.- connecting.
#1738 [21:45] <Tarridon> Logging in..
#1739 [21:45] <Tarridon> So im that far..
#1740 [21:45] <xales> Tarridon: Do you have a firewall running?
#1741 [21:46] <Tarridon> I do, but i have minecraft.exe accepted.
#1742 [21:46] <Tarridon> Should i allow minecraftserver?
#1743 [21:46] <xales> Try with it completely disabled.
#1744 [21:46] <Tarridon> Disabled o.O
#1745 [21:48] <Wug> lol derp
#1746 [21:48] <Wug> you wont have much luck hosting a server if you don't allow it through the firewall
#1747 [21:49] <Tarridon> Phew.
#1748 [21:49] <Tarridon> Didnt think of it til' now.
#1749 [21:49] <xales> That's a pretty stupid firewall, if it allows inbound traffic but not outbound ._.
#1750 [21:51] <Wug> most stupid indeed
#1751 [21:51] <Tarridon> eh?
#1752 [21:51] * Wug sips tea
#1752 [21:52] <Wug> well seeing as the purpose of a firewall is to prevent unauthorized external access and other malicious activity coming from outside
#1753 [21:52] <Wug> it does make sense not to stop outgoing traffic, but to stop incoming
#1754 [21:57] <Tarridon> Still not connecting/logging in "Internal client error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect"
#1755 [21:58] <Tarridon> ,/192.168.1.66:4744
#1756 [21:58] <Tarridon> lost connection
#1757 [21:58] <VoxelHead> Lost connection... lonnection.
#1758 [21:58] <xales> Tarridon: And the firewall is _disabled_?
#1759 [21:59] <Tarridon> Not yet was trying to allow minecraftserver in to see if it worked.
#1760 [22:01] <Tarridon> Still same thing as above, with firewall disabled.
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#1762 [22:02] <Tarridon> Any more suggestions?
#1763 [22:03] <xales> Are you sure you have completely disabled it?
#1764 [22:03] <xales> Actually. What specifically is it?
#1765 [22:03] <Tarridon> Windows firewall: Off.
#1766 [22:03] <xales> Just Windows Firewall?
#1767 [22:03] <Tarridon> What others do i allow?
#1768 [22:03] <Tarridon> or disable.
#1769 [22:03] <Tarridon> My bad
#1770 [22:04] <xales> Do you have any other firewall/"Internet security" software?
#1771 [22:04] <Tarridon> McaFee
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#1773 [22:04] <Tarridon> disable it also?
#1774 [22:04] <xales> Well, there's the problem
#1775 [22:04] <xales> Yes, disable it
#1776 [22:04] <Tarridon> Well if i do that it might allow trojans etc in
#1777 [22:05] <xales> No, it doesn't work like that
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#1779 [22:05] <xales> McAfee is garbage anyway
#1780 [22:05] <Tarridon> >.>
#1781 [22:05] <xales> There are _far_ better (and free) antivirus programs
#1782 [22:05] <Tarridon> Ok....
#1783 [22:05] <Tarridon> Lol
#1784 [22:05] <Tarridon> Norton beteR?
#1785 [22:05] <Tarridon> beter*
#1786 [22:05] <Tarridon> better*
#1787 [22:05] <xales> No Norton is probably worse
#1788 [22:05] <xales> (and not free)
#1789 [22:05] <xales> http://www.avira.com/en/avira-free-antivirus
#1790 [22:06] <Tarridon> Wow, norton seems so organized.
#1791 [22:06] <Tarridon> and well put-out
#1792 [22:06] <xales> Norton is a massive waste of system resources; same with McAfee
#1793 [22:06] <xales> It will slow your computer to a crawl
#1794 [22:07] <Tarridon> What does a firewall do exactly?
#1795 [22:07] <Tarridon> Thoguht it bloacked viruses
#1796 [22:07] <xales> In most cases? Nothing.
#1797 [22:07] <Tarridon> wow terrible typing there
#1798 [22:07] <Tarridon> Oh..
#1799 [22:07] <xales> It prevents incoming connections to your computer, but so does your router
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#1801 [22:07] <xales> Routers don't allow any connections you didn't initiate
#1802 [22:07] <Tarridon> ohh..
#1803 [22:07] <xales> So if you have a router, you don't even _need_ a firewall
#1804 [22:08] <Tarridon> oh..
#1805 [22:08] <Tarridon> DDDDD:::: Not workinnggg
#1806 [22:09] <Tarridon> Wow.
#1807 [22:09] <xales> You disabled McAfee (entirely?)
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#1809 [22:09] <Tarridon> All firewalls are disabled.
#1810 [22:10] <xales> Is McAfee completely disabled, or just partially?
#1811 [22:10] <Tarridon> What do you mean?
#1812 [22:10] <Tarridon> I only turned firewall off..
#1813 [22:10] <xales> Turn it all the way off.
#1814 [22:10] <Tarridon> ...ok
#1815 [22:11] <Tarridon> How do i do that exactly?
#1816 [22:11] <Tarridon> brb gonna take a shower
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#1818 [22:20] <Tarridon> Back.
#1819 [22:21] <Kealper> 8 minute shower....impressive
#1820 [22:21] <Tarridon> Tried to hurry..
#1821 [22:21] <Tarridon> Really counted eh?
#1822 [22:21] <Kealper> no, i just looked at the timestamps on the messages lol
#1823 [22:22] <Tarridon> Ohh...
#1824 [22:22] <Tarridon> Alright back on track... (I have teamviewer btw, if it is needed*
#1825 [22:23] <xales> Tarridon: Based on the error you got, there's definately something still blocking it.
#1826 [22:24] <Tarridon> How do i turn mcAfee all the way off?
#1827 [22:24] <xales> Uninstalling it
#1828 [22:25] <Tarridon> Not on my computer atm, is broken.
#1829 [22:25] <Tarridon> And my parents bough mcafee for $30
#1830 [22:25] <Tarridon> and yeah, i see they were ripped.
#1831 [22:25] <xales> They wasted their money then. ._.
#1832 [22:25] <Tarridon> brb
#1833 [22:26] <xales> bah, wrong window
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#1836 [22:26] <Kealper> lol
#1837 [22:26] <Kealper> thought you were in #minecraft? lol
#1838 [22:26] <xales> Pretty much
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#1840 [22:27] <Wug> lolololololo
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#1843 [22:40] <Tarridon> Bakc.
#1844 [22:40] <Tarridon> back*
#1845 [22:42] <Tarridon> ...
#1846 [22:42] <Tarridon> It's Friday, Friday..
#1847 [22:42] <Tarridon> Partyn', partyn'
#1848 [22:42] <Kealper> actually it's only Thor's Day
#1849 [22:43] <Tarridon> Lol
#1850 [22:44] <Tarridon> Lol
#1851 [22:44] <Kealper> YOU'RE A WIZARD 'ARRY
#1852 [22:44] <Captain-Lightning> NO
#1853 [22:45] <Captain-Lightning> I'M JUST HARRY
#1854 [22:45] <xales> HARRY.
#1855 [22:45] <xales> YOU ARE A WIZARD.
#1856 [22:45] <Tarridon> POTTA?
#1857 [22:45] <VoxelHead> crumbs
#1858 [22:45] <Tarridon> bread*
#1859 [22:45] <harry> A WIZARD?
#1860 [22:45] <harry> I'M JUST HARRY
#1861 [22:45] <VoxelHead> ow my eyes :(
#1862 [22:45] <xales> YES HARRY.
#1863 [22:45] <Captain-Lightning> NO YOU FAT LOUSY OAF
#1864 [22:45] <xales> YOU ARE A _WIZARD_!!!
#1865 [22:45] <Captain-Lightning> I'M JUST HARRY
#1866 [22:45] <Captain-Lightning> Eh?
#1867 [22:45] <Harryhy> the heck do you want
#1868 [22:45] <Captain-Lightning> Who is that?
#1869 [22:46] <bread> wot
#1870 [22:46] <Tarridon> Lol
#1871 [22:46] <xales> Hi guys.
#1872 [22:46] <[L]> No one you need to worry about
#1873 [22:46] <xales> How do I use /who?
#1874 [22:46] <xales> 22:46:09 [espernet] -!- * Hasaosan H 0 ~hasaosan@c-98-201-33-8.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [...]
#1875 [22:46] <Captain-Lightning> F-Fa...Father?!
#1876 [22:46] <bread> /xales
#1877 [22:46] <Captain-Lightning> Why the random ban?
#1878 [22:47] <xales> [L]: ^
#1879 [22:47] <xales> Probably not random..but..why? :P
#1880 [22:48] <Tarridon> xales, is there a way i can uninstall McAfee but be able to re-install it?
#1881 [22:48] <xales> Tarridon: Probably? I wouldn't know.
#1882 [22:49] <Tarridon> Hmph.
#1883 [22:50] <Tarridon> I dunnot like McAfee anymore..
#1884 [22:51] <Tarridon> Atleast it removes viruses..
#1885 [22:51] <xales> Even that, not so much.
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#1887 [22:51] <xales> (You shouldn't have those in the first place. Right?)
#1888 [22:51] <Tarridon> I'll ask my dad tomorrow.
#1889 [22:51] <Tarridon> Well my parents chose it, i didnt know much about anti-virus programs
#1890 [22:52] <Tarridon> I thought you got what you payed for..
#1891 [22:52] <xales> Not with software, sadly.
#1892 [22:52] <Tarridon> aaaaaaaaaphew.
#1893 [22:52] <Tarridon> sorry about a's lol
#1894 [22:53] <xales> Also, I highly recommend http://www.avira.com/en/avira-free-antivirus - it's free, does the same stuff as McAfee, but it's faster, and doesn't conflict with 95% of programs.
#1895 [22:53] <Kealper> ^
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#1897 [22:53] <Tarridon> Wonder if my parents ould notice....
#1898 [22:53] <Tarridon> >:)
#1899 [22:53] <Tarridon> (:<
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#1901 [22:53] <xales> In all honesty? Probably not. I wouldn't recommend it though, on the off chance that they _do_.
#1902 [22:54] <Kealper> probably....you'll get a popup thing saying why you should stop using the free version and get the full version every few days when it does updates to itself :/
#1903 [22:54] <xales> Some parents are...obsessed with "computer security" yet know nothing about it or even what the threats are
#1904 [22:54] <Tarridon> Lol
#1905 [22:54] <xales> Kealper: That's extremely easy to disable
#1906 [22:54] <Kealper> xales: yeah, but i mean with just a blank install
#1907 [22:54] <Kealper> well, fresh install
#1908 [22:54] <Tarridon> I dont wanna waste their money though...
#1909 [22:55] <Tarridon> Stupid conscience...
#1910 [22:55] <Tarridon> lol
#1911 [22:55] <xales> Tarridon: You wouldn't be wasting it
#1912 [22:55] <xales> They paid for McAfee; in return, they learned that it's a piece of garbage.
#1913 [22:55] <Tarridon> How so?
#1914 [22:55] <Tarridon> Lol.
#1915 [22:55] <Tarridon> Alright here i go.
#1916 [22:55] <Tarridon> to de-install it
#1917 [22:57] <Kealper> uninstall* :P
#1918 [22:57] <Tarridon> If they do find out, i'l tell hem i helped them.
#1919 [22:57] <xales> The truth never hurts...
#1920 [22:57] <Tarridon> and got thema better program?
#1921 [22:58] <Tarridon> Lol
#1922 [22:58] <Tarridon> Brb gotta close ALL browser windows.
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#1924 [23:01] <Tarridon> Alright uninstalled, yet the icon is still there.
#1925 [23:02] <Tarridon> dont tihnk its active tohugh.
#1926 [23:02] <xales> You have to restart your computer
#1927 [23:02] <Kealper> ^
#1928 [23:02] <Tarridon> >.>
#1929 [23:02] <Kealper> lol
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#1934 [23:09] <Tarridon> Icon is still there....
#1935 [23:10] <xales> There might be more than one entry for it.
#1936 [23:10] <Tarridon> But it doesnt have the checks beside the links on google.
#1937 [23:10] <Tarridon> idk
#1938 [23:10] <xales> Did you install _all_ of them?
#1939 [23:10] <Tarridon> security scan
#1940 [23:10] <Tarridon> and uhh..
#1941 [23:11] <Tarridon> Thats it.
#1942 [23:11] <xales> Where did you uninstall them from? Control Panel?
#1943 [23:12] <Tarridon> Program files.
#1944 [23:12] <Tarridon> uninstalled security scan just now.
#1945 [23:12] <Tarridon> Restart again?
#1946 [23:12] <xales> No.
#1947 [23:12] <Tarridon> Whew.
#1948 [23:12] <xales> Go to Control Panel and look through the list there.
#1949 [23:12] <xales> (Under "Programs and Features")
#1950 [23:13] <Tarridon> List of what?
#1951 [23:13] <Tarridon> Ok
#1952 [23:13] <xales> Make sure every entry is removed.
#1953 [23:13] <Tarridon> Add or remove programs?
#1954 [23:14] <xales> Yes.
#1955 [23:14] <Tarridon> But i still want ot be able to install if my parents stomp on me for uninstalling it.
#1956 [23:15] <Tarridon> But its gone though(:
#1957 [23:15] <xales> So?
#1958 [23:15] <xales> You have to use Add/Remove programs to uninstall it completely
#1959 [23:15] <Tarridon> It wasn't listed.
#1960 [23:15] <xales> Reboot the computer again, then ._.
#1961 [23:15] <Tarridon> D:<
#1962 [23:15] <Tarridon> ..
#1963 [23:15] <Kealper> "Did you restart it three times like i told you?"
#1964 [23:16] * GreyVulpine snrks
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#1965 [23:20] <Tarridon> Once more...
#1966 [23:20] <xales> Is the icon still there?
#1967 [23:20] <Tarridon> Now try to run minecraft etc
#1968 [23:20] <Tarridon> on my toolbar at bottom right
#1969 [23:21] <Tarridon> I dont tihnk itll do anything
#1970 [23:21] <xales> Probably not.
#1971 [23:23] <Tarridon> Connection refused: connect.
#1972 [23:23] <Tarridon> ...
#1973 [23:23] <xales> Tarridon: The server is running, correct?
#1974 [23:24] <Tarridon> It is.
#1975 [23:24] <xales> Did you put an IP in the server.properties file?
#1976 [23:24] <Tarridon> I was told not to as i was trying to get help o minecraft forums..
#1977 [23:25] <xales> That is correct; you shouldn't.
#1978 [23:25] <xales> What IP are you typing in the box?
#1979 [23:25] <Tarridon> Ok.
#1980 [23:25] <Tarridon> My internal, 192.168.1.66
#1981 [23:26] <xales> Try "127.0.0.1"
#1982 [23:26] <Tarridon> or localhost?
#1983 [23:26] <xales> Yes, or localhost.
#1984 [23:26] <Tarridon> Same error.
#1985 [23:26] <xales> Do you see anything in the server console, regarding the connection?
#1986 [23:27] <Tarridon> [INFO] /127.0.0.1:1117 lost connection
#1987 [23:27] <xales> Hmm. Are you able to connect to _other_ servers?
#1988 [23:28] <Tarridon> Yes.
#1989 [23:28] <xales> Hmm..
#1990 [23:28] * xales pokes GreyVulpine
#1990 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> ?
#1991 [23:28] <xales> I am mystified.
#1992 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> What's up?
#1993 [23:29] <xales> Tarridon here gets a connection reset to his server, even using the loopback
#1994 [23:29] <xales> Rather, connection refused
#1995 [23:29] <xales> However, the server console shows a disconnect.
#1996 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Huh... okay.
#1997 [23:29] <Tarridon> Although the McAfee still says the firewall and everything is still on.
#1998 [23:29] <xales> ._.
#1999 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> You've checked all the usual suspects? Firewall, security software?
#2000 [23:29] <Tarridon> In the tollbar, bottom right.
#2001 [23:29] <xales> You need to go back and uninstall then then.
#2002 [23:29] <xales> (again)
#2003 [23:30] <Tarridon> They're uninstalled?
#2004 [23:30] <xales> If it's still saying the firewall is on, and it's still in the tray, then no, it's not.
#2005 [23:30] <Tarridon> .......
#2006 [23:31] <Tarridon> Should i just delete the folder?
#2007 [23:31] <xales> No.
#2008 [23:32] <xales> You need to properly uninstall it. Go back to "Add and Remove programs" and look again.
#2009 [23:32] <Tarridon> ok
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#2011 [23:33] <Tarridon> How did i not see it..?
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#2014 [23:42] <Tarridon> Alrighty.
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#2016 [23:45] <Tarridon> And guess what?
#2017 [23:45] <xales> It works? :P
#2018 [23:45] <Tarridon> Not.. at .. all
#2019 [23:45] <Tarridon> ):
#2020 [23:45] <xales> That's...interesting
#2021 [23:46] <xales> And it's entirely gone now? ._.
#2022 [23:46] <Tarridon> Maybe for you...
#2023 [23:46] <Tarridon> It is no longe ron my toolbar.
#2024 [23:46] <xales> Is Windows Firewall also off?
#2025 [23:47] <Tarridon> It is now/
#2026 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Tarridon - You're running a non-modded server, with fresh client files of minecraft?
#2027 [23:47] <Tarridon> umm..
#2028 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> ie, Did you get the server directly from minecraft.net, and did you mod your client at all?\
#2029 [23:48] <Tarridon> It's clean now:D
#2030 [23:49] <Tarridon> and yes, i got it from minecraft.net... this computer doesnt conect to it so i had to put it on a zip drive.
#2031 [23:49] <aetherian> ...a zip drive...
#2032 [23:49] <xales> ._.
#2033 [23:50] <Tarridon> ?
#2034 [23:50] <xales> What do you mean it doesn't connect to minecraft.net... :|
#2035 [23:50] <Tarridon> I had to get it from someone elses computer.
#2036 [23:50] <Tarridon> It alway says the server refuses to take connection...
#2037 [23:50] <Tarridon> ive tried on IE and Google chrome
#2038 [23:50] <xales> Well, I think I know why that is.
#2039 [23:50] <VoxelHead> I like them =)
#2040 [23:51] <xales> And what the problem is here.
#2041 [23:51] <Tarridon> ?
#2042 [23:51] <xales> Go to Start -> Run
#2043 [23:51] <Tarridon> o
#2044 [23:51] <xales> Type "cmd" and hit Run.
#2045 [23:51] <Tarridon> k
#2046 [23:51] <xales> Then, type "ping minecraft.net"
#2047 [23:51] <xales> It will say "Pinging minecraft.net [xx.xx.xx.xx]"
#2048 [23:51] <xales> Can you write here the [xx.xx.xx.xx] part?
#2049 [23:52] <Tarridon> 127.0.0.1
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#2051 [23:52] <aetherian> that's odd
#2052 [23:52] <xales> As I thought.
#2053 [23:52] <xales> The problem is that you were/are playing a pirated version of Minecraft.
#2054 [23:52] <Tarridon> O>O!
#2055 [23:52] * GreyVulpine coughs
#2055 [23:52] <Tarridon> How?
#2056 [23:52] <xales> How what?
#2057 [23:52] <Tarridon> am i playing a pirated version?
#2058 [23:52] * Captain-Lightning uber coughs
#2058 [23:53] * aetherian uber duber coughs
#2058 [23:53] <xales> I wouldn't know. You would be the one who used it.
#2059 [23:53] <xales> Or someone else on that computer.
#2060 [23:53] <Tarridon> BUT I!
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#2062 [23:53] <Tarridon> Sat there and watched my parents buy minecraft for me.
#2063 [23:53] <Tarridon> and payed the 20 dollars -.-
#2064 [23:54] <xales> Did you play it _before_ they bought it, or someone else did, on that computer? ._.
#2065 [23:54] <Tarridon> No i was the one who brought it up..
#2066 [23:55] <xales> Well, the fact remains that someone has played a pirated version of the game on that computer.
#2067 [23:55] <xales> You would need to fix that.
#2068 [23:55] <xales> Open C:\Windows
#2069 [23:55] <xales> err
#2070 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/hosts
#2071 [23:55] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2072 [23:55] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2073 [23:55] <Tarridon> Wait i did play a cracked version
#2074 [23:55] * GreyVulpine points
#2074 [23:55] <xales> Bah
#2075 [23:55] <Tarridon> It didnt have multiplayer tho :/
#2076 [23:55] <xales> That got added? ._
#2077 [23:56] <xales> Tarridon: Why did you say you didn't, then? ._.
#2078 [23:56] <Tarridon> Thought you meat as i bought the game..
#2079 [23:56] <Tarridon> meant*
#2080 [23:56] <Captain-Lightning> !haspaid tarridon
#2081 [23:56] <Captain-Lightning> :(
#2082 [23:56] <Tarridon> Awkward silence..
#2083 [23:56] <Captain-Lightning> I can never remember the command
#2084 [23:57] <Captain-Lightning> !paid tarridon
#2085 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Tarridon - Follow Vox's instructions
#2086 [23:57] <Tarridon> Ok
#2087 [23:58] <Tarridon> ##Hosts file edit
#2088 [23:58] <xales> GreyVulpine: Off-topic. Have you ever actually seen a SystemRoot that wasn't C:, with the exclusion of trying (incorrectly) to dual-boot different versions of Windows
#2089 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, not personally, no.
#2090 [23:59] <xales> Tarridon: Paste the entire file on http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link.
#2091 [23:59] <Tarridon> I have no clue what you're talking about (: