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#2 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Also not possible
#3 [19:31] <progme> GreyVulpine: to test if the latest lwjgl works, i will have to launch the jvm and point it to the folder in which the native libraries are located?
#4 [19:31] <progme> and do this every time i launch....
#5 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> No, just replace the lwjgl files in .minecraft/bin and .minecraft/bin/natives
#6 [19:31] <ZeroK> but can't you just email notch and they can change it?
#7 [19:31] <progme> ok
#8 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> ZeroK - It can't be changed right now
#9 [19:31] * Kealper hugs AuBot
#9 [19:32] <ZeroK> oh u mean like, theres a problem on their side?
#10 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> I mean, it isn't currently a function that they can do right now, it's something they'll look into implementing in the future.
#11 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> ZeroK: changing your account's email address is not a service Mojang offers.
#12 [19:32] <ZeroK> ohhh alright then thank you
#13 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> They used to, but too many people set their passwords to '12345' and 'password' and got their accounts stolen.
#14 [19:33] <ZeroK> lol
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#17 [19:33] <Karinth> Oi
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#19 [19:34] <Karinth> Anyonw know when the forums will get back online?
#20 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#21 [19:34] <progme> GreyVulpine: worked. thanks man
#22 [19:34] <Karinth> Ok, anyone know why they moved them again?
#23 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> they have the attention span of a squirrel?
#24 [19:34] <xales> #minecraftforums
#25 [19:35] <xales> We have absolutely no relation with the forum, and I don't think any of us even use it.
#26 [19:35] <Karinth> I agree, but I do hope they fix the "View your posts"
#27 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> I might have linked there once or thrice.
#28 [19:35] <Karinth> Ahh ok I will go there
#29 [19:36] <Karinth> Im connecting but it says the irc for it is down
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#32 [19:39] <austinallen> Hello my name is having trouble logging in to Minecraft lancher can someone help me
#33 [19:39] <Kealper> what is it telling you when you try?
#34 [19:40] <Karinth> Just keeps saying connection closed then tries to connect again
#35 [19:40] <Kealper> has it ever worked before?
#36 [19:40] <Karinth> Not for me
#37 [19:41] <Kealper> austinallen: same question goes to you; what does it say, and has it ever worked before?
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#39 [19:41] <austinallen> I extracted the files from my mac and my offline does not work because It says I do not have the download files
#40 [19:41] <Kealper> Karinth: have you ever played a pirated copy of minecraft on your computer before?
#41 [19:41] <austinallen> no
#42 [19:42] <Karinth> No, but what does that have to do with the Minecraft Forums IRC?
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#44 [19:42] <Kealper> Karinth: oh....well you spoke up right as austinallen said something and i asked a question, i assumed you had the same problem as him/her >.>
#45 [19:42] <Kealper> can't help with the forums, we arn't associated with it
#46 [19:43] <Karinth> Oh sorry lol, I was responding to being told to go to that irc lol
#47 [19:43] <Karinth> Apparently no one is lol
#48 [19:43] <austinallen> i did not say anything about the forums
#49 [19:43] <Karinth> Pay attention aus
#50 [19:44] <nettechxiii> Hi-ho, so is anyone having trouble logging in to the official minecraft.net page? I keep getting "Login throttled, too many attempts. Try again in a couple of minutes."
#51 [19:44] <austinallen> what do you mean
#52 [19:44] <Kealper> a note to both of you: i'll have the name of the person i am talking to at the start of what i say
#53 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> nettechxiii: logging in works fine for me
#54 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> nettechxiii: if you're getting that message, follow its directions: Stop trying to log in for a few minutes.
#55 [19:44] <Karinth> austinallen: He was speaking to me nettechxii: Just keep trying, people are trying to figure out about the forums and looking for answers there.
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#57 [19:45] <nettechxiii> tried yesterday a couple times, then decided to wait longer, still the same after giving it all night
#58 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> hm.
#59 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> that implies someone else is attempting to log into your account
#60 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> or someone else on your IP or range of IPs is hammering the MC auth server
#61 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> what is your account name?
#62 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Either that, or the login server is overloaded for some reason
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#65 [19:46] <nettechxiii> thought of that and saw about the account hacking, checked my name against the php page they had up, said mine wasn't compromised
#66 [19:46] <bibsch_> hi, do u have the problem with minecraftserver crashes too?
#67 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: ISTR mollstam tweeting something to the effect of that message being account-specific
#68 [19:46] <nettechxiii> same as here
#69 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> bibsch_: couls you be more specific?
#70 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> nettechxiii: what is your account name?
#71 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - I've been getting mixed answers with that specific issue.
#72 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: indeed.
#73 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> that's why I'm starting to thing it's both account- and IP- or IP-range-specific
#74 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> it makes sense to throttle both
#75 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> one to protect accounts, and the other to inconvenience crackers
#76 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#77 [19:48] <nettechxiii> odd about the IP range, I could try proxying through another area, but that seems like a pain
#78 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> True, but you could try once to see whether that's the issue
#79 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> or just install Tor
#80 [19:51] <nettechxiii> is the minecraft.net and client auth server/db the same?
#81 [19:51] <nettechxiii> are*
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#84 [19:51] <Sintel> is anyone here a modder who can help me out with some very basic code?
#85 [19:52] <Sintel> no?
#86 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> May want to head to #risucraft
#87 [19:53] <Sintel> thanks
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#90 [20:10] <Kealper> so anyways
#91 [20:11] <Kealper> while i was internetless
#92 [20:12] <Kealper> actually...just last night....i made a program that makes shapes that bounce to a song
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#95 [20:15] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper
#95 [20:15] <Truexile> hey guys nooby here with a problem
#96 [20:15] * Kealper rawrs
#96 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Have you taken a look at terraria yet?
#97 [20:15] <Kealper> whowhat?
#98 [20:15] <Truexile> socket write error everyime i try to play minecraft
#99 [20:15] * GreyVulpine points to 2d minecraft
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#100 [20:16] <Kealper> Truexile: has it ever worked before?
#101 [20:16] * GreyVulpine prods Kealper towards: http://store.steampowered.com/app/105600/
#101 [20:16] <Truexile> yes last night
#102 [20:16] <Truexile> i reset my router and still nothing
#103 [20:16] <Kealper> have you tried other servers?
#104 [20:16] <Truexile> yea everyone drops me
#105 [20:17] <Kealper> hmm... try smp.shadow-craft.net and see if that does it too
#106 [20:17] <Truexile> i have a brodcom netlink ethernet card too
#107 [20:17] <Truexile> kk
#108 [20:18] <Truexile> hmm wtf is that place?
#109 [20:18] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: :o
#110 [20:20] <Kealper> Truexile: hmm?
#111 [20:20] <Kealper> sorry for taking so long to respond, was watching a video lol
#112 [20:21] <Truexile> sry nvm i thought you were phishing my bad
#113 [20:21] <Truexile> <---noob
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#115 [20:23] <Truexile> it said Success
#116 [20:23] <Truexile> i wonder what the problem is :(
#117 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Success?
#118 [20:24] <Truexile> at smp.shadow-craft.net
#119 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Did you put that in the multiplayer field of your minecraft client?
#120 [20:25] <Truexile> no i went to the site and put in my username/email and it said success
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#122 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Could you try "smp.shadow-craft.net" in the mulitplayer field of your client?
#123 [20:26] <Truexile> k in there now
#124 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> So you connected to the MC server sucessfully?
#125 [20:26] <Truexile> it just droped me
#126 [20:26] <Truexile> yes
#127 [20:26] <Truexile> for about 20 seconds
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#129 [20:27] <mib_hmuofu> Applet error (7) - Minecraft? Ok. Recently I've experienced a error whenever I try to go play Minecraft. It comes up as: "An error occured while loading the applet." "Please contact support to resolve this issue." "Fatal error occured (7): com.mojang.minecraft.MinecraftApplet" I've uninstalled-reinstalled Java, but to no avail. How do I fix this? I'm als
#130 [20:27] <mib_hmuofu> im also playing offline
#131 [20:28] <xales> mib_hmuofu: Are you trying to play Classic, or Beta?
#132 [20:28] <mib_hmuofu> classic. it also will not let me buy the game off of paypal from my visa. i think its my bank blocking an overseas payment.
#133 [20:32] <mib_hmuofu> well??
#134 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried deleting the temp files off the browser? Search for minecraft.net and www.minecraft.net
#135 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Delete those temp folders, then try minecraft again
#136 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> As for the payment issue, you might want to contact your bank, we can't really do anything to help you there.
#137 [20:35] <Truexile> anything else i should try to fix this socket write error?
#138 [20:35] <Kealper> Truexile: did it work on that smp.shadow-craft.net server?
#139 [20:35] <Truexile> ya i could connect for about 20 seconds
#140 [20:36] <Truexile> then same thing, socket write error
#141 [20:37] <Kealper> hmm....and it worked last night?
#142 [20:38] <Truexile> yea i know thats whats weird
#143 [20:38] <Kealper> and nothing changed?
#144 [20:39] <Truexile> nope
#145 [20:39] <Kealper> got any antivirus software or firewall software installed?
#146 [20:39] <Truexile> i even tried to delete and reinstall
#147 [20:39] <mib_hmuofu> how do i delete the temp files from my browser?
#148 [20:39] <Truexile> yea norton360 but its not that
#149 [20:40] <Kealper> mib_hmuofu: depends on what browser you use
#150 [20:40] <Truexile> i even tryed to add it to the "Allow" list manually and still get kicked
#151 [20:40] <Kealper> Truexile: have you tried totally disabling it for a few minutes to test it?
#152 [20:40] <Truexile> ill try that now
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#154 [20:42] <Truexile> yea still nothing :(
#155 [20:43] <Kealper> are you using wireless or wired for networking?
#156 [20:43] <Truexile> wired
#157 [20:43] <Kealper> hmm........
#158 [20:44] <Kealper> ?? win/profile
#159 [20:44] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
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#161 [20:44] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#162 [20:44] <Truexile> even when i try to run it in the browser same thing
#163 [20:46] <Truexile> its not that
#164 [20:46] <Truexile> im the only user of this pc, just formated not to long ago
#165 [20:47] <Kealper> well yes, but that was actually asking you to make a new, blank profile on your computer to see if your main computer profile is messing it up for some reason
#166 [20:49] <Truexile> brb
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#169 [20:56] <Ecchi> Any fix for black screen after login?
#170 [20:56] <Kealper> depends...black screens happen for loads of stuff
#171 [20:56] <Kealper> are you trying in the browser or the downloaded client?
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#173 [20:56] <Ecchi> both
#174 [20:56] <Ecchi> downloaded just turns black
#175 [20:56] <Ecchi> sec
#176 [20:57] <Truexile> made a new Guest act, re dl the game, and still socket write error
#177 [20:57] <Kealper> ok, try in the browser, and when it goes black, leave it there and tell me, i'll show you how to get debug info for it
#178 [20:57] <Ecchi> browser one just stops at done loading and nothing happens
#179 [20:57] <Kealper> Truexile: well...this is unfortunate...i'm not sure what could be wrong then :/
#180 [20:58] <Kealper> Ecchi: well, it should still give debug info that can help identify the problem
#181 [20:58] <Truexile> what should my next step be, anyone else i can contact?
#182 [20:58] <Kealper> Ecchi: also, has it ever worked before?
#183 [20:58] <Kealper> Truexile: well..do you have any other way of connecting your computer to the internet? (wireless adapter, etc)
#184 [20:59] <Ecchi> Nope, just bought it
#185 [20:59] <Ecchi> Tell me how to get debug info then:)
#186 [20:59] <Kealper> Ecchi: just go try to play the browser version and when it gets to where it stops, tell me
#187 [20:59] <Kealper> unless you meant you were already there
#188 [20:59] <Ecchi> Its there
#189 [21:00] <Kealper> see a little white coffee cup in your system tray by the clock in the bottom right?
#190 [21:00] <Kealper> (of your screen, thatis)
#191 [21:00] <Ecchi> yesh
#192 [21:00] <Kealper> right click it and select Open java console
#193 [21:01] <Truexile> hmm i can try it on my laptop but thats a different computer
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#195 [21:02] <Ecchi> I PM'ed you the stuff but think it got stopped by flood control:P
#196 [21:02] <Kealper> Ecchi: you have a ! in your computer username
#197 [21:02] <Kealper> and there is no way to change that, unless you create a new windows user profile :/
#198 [21:02] <Ecchi> Thats the reason the game does not work?
#199 [21:02] <Kealper> Java absolutely hates special characters in paths
#200 [21:03] <Kealper> Ecchi: sadly
#201 [21:03] <Ecchi> I just changed it now
#202 [21:03] <Kealper> so just make a new computer user called Minecraft or whatever (as long as it has no special characters)
#203 [21:04] <Kealper> that won't change the actual path
#204 [21:04] <Ecchi> Hmm, I'll try that
#205 [21:04] <Kealper> your profile's folder name can't be changed :/
#206 [21:04] <Truexile> so i guess im SOL
#207 [21:05] <Kealper> Truexile: you've stumped me, might be better to wait for others, or come back some other time :/
#208 [21:05] <Kealper> but i can't think of what it could be that would suddenly cause that (although i have a sneaking suspicion that Norton has something to do with it)
#209 [21:06] <Truexile> hmm
#210 [21:06] <Truexile> ill see if i get the smae problem on my laptop, has the same antivirus program
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#215 [21:15] <Truexile> ya it gives me the same error on the laptop too
#216 [21:15] <Truexile> so thinking its the antivirus?
#217 [21:15] <Kealper> then it's definately either an issue with your internet or Norton (which has been known to cause issues before)
#218 [21:16] <Truexile> which Norton?
#219 [21:16] <Kealper> uhh.....whatever their full security suite is called
#220 [21:16] <Truexile> yea the norton 360
#221 [21:16] <Truexile> hmmm
#222 [21:17] <Kealper> did you pay for it or are you getting it free from your ISP?
#223 [21:17] <Kealper> because there are better, free alternatives out there :/
#224 [21:18] <Truexile> no its paid for and i like it
#225 [21:18] <Kealper> oh :/
#226 [21:19] <Truexile> whats better about the other antivirus program?
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#228 [21:20] <Kealper> to be honest...you can probably just uninstall (or totally remove) the firewall part of Norton without touching the rest of it
#229 [21:21] <Truexile> minecraft is the only program that has an issue so i dont wanna go that far
#230 [21:21] <Kealper> because it's most likely the firewall that is not able to keep up with Minecraft's packetspam and ends up clipping off part of a packet and then Minecraft gets all huffy and DCes
#231 [21:21] <Truexile> i got a monster machine
#232 [21:21] <Kealper> well that's why i said just the firewall, since those are completely useless if you have a router anyways
#233 [21:22] <Kealper> it's not the machine that is the problem, it's the software
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#235 [21:22] <Kealper> and Norton is not particularly being known for being the best
#236 [21:22] * GreyVulpine coughs
#236 [21:22] <Truexile> i hear mixed opinions on that
#237 [21:23] <Kealper> the general consensus in here is that Norton is....not the best, to put it nicely :/
#238 [21:23] * GreyVulpine agrees
#238 [21:23] <brienza> Norton D:
#239 [21:23] <Truexile> lol
#240 [21:23] <Truexile> are you guys programmers?
#241 [21:23] <Kealper> and i'm not asking you to get rid of it if you like it, just get rid of the (totally useless) part that is the most likely culprit
#242 [21:23] <Kealper> actually
#243 [21:23] <Kealper> yes
#244 [21:23] <Kealper> lol
#245 [21:24] <Kealper> most of the people in here do IT for a living :P
#246 [21:24] <Truexile> http://www.chromespherestudios.com/ my buddie wrote the 3d engine and the level editor
#247 [21:24] <Truexile> and he uses norton and i trust him lol
#248 [21:24] <Kealper> well does he play Minecraft?
#249 [21:25] <Truexile> yea
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#251 [21:26] <Kealper> Minecraft has...special needs when it comes to networking... (and not in a good way), so if a firewall program is not made correctly, it will fill up it's recieve buffer and then data gets to the Minecraft client in messed up fragments, or not all the data gets to it at all
#252 [21:26] <Kealper> which is what causes those sorts of problems
#253 [21:27] <Truexile> so when i turned it off why doesnt it work?
#254 [21:27] <Truexile> and it worked last night lol
#255 [21:27] <Kealper> that's why i'm sort of confused >.>
#256 [21:28] <Kealper> and i'm not saying for sure that it is even Norton, but signs are pointing strongly to yes
#257 [21:29] <Kealper> it's either Norton's firewall, your internet, or your router that is the issue, as both of your computers have the same issue, and both have the same firewall installed :/
#258 [21:30] <Truexile> hmm
#259 [21:30] <Kealper> if it's Norton, the only thing i can recommend is uninstalling the firewall portion (not the whole thing, just killing the firewall part of it)
#260 [21:31] <Kealper> if it's your internet, then you should call your ISP and yell at them
#261 [21:31] <Kealper> if it's your router: i can recommend a few things, but if those don't work then yelling at your ISP is the way to go for that, too
#262 [21:32] <Truexile> i reset my router already, what would my isp be doing to cause it?
#263 [21:33] <Kealper> that's why i said you would have to call them (if it's not Norton), because i'd have no idea
#264 [21:34] <Kealper> the easiest way to test is to just uninstall Norton for a few minutes
#265 [21:35] <Anthrophobic> 08:33:56] <Anthrophobic> Anyone ever had trouble installing these two mods?
#266 [21:35] <Anthrophobic> [08:33:56] <Anthrophobic> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/184263-15-01-industrialcraft-v704/
#267 [21:35] <Anthrophobic> [08:34:00] * EdGruberman (~EdGruberm@166.205.9.236) Quit (Ping timeout: 195 seconds)
#268 [21:35] <Anthrophobic> [08:34:02] <Anthrophobic> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/86765-14-01sdks-guns-atv-grappling-hook-and-utilitiesv3/#Download
#269 [21:35] <Anthrophobic> [08:34:21] <Anthrophobic> Seeing as how the industrial needs the modloaderMP from the SDK I thougth both of them installed at once would work.
#270 [21:35] <Anthrophobic> [08:34:39] <Anthrophobic> But as soon as I installed SDK Gun pack I tried to test it and clicked login and got a black screen.
#271 [21:35] <Anthrophobic> didn't feel like retyping it..
#272 [21:36] <Kealper> what's up with vox un+q'ing people?
#273 [21:36] <Anthrophobic> hmm
#274 [21:36] <Anthrophobic> I just didn't feel like retyping all that.
#275 [21:36] <Kealper> Anthrophobic: also you got muted
#276 [21:36] <Anthrophobic> Anyone ever had trouble installing these two mods?
#277 [21:36] <Anthrophobic> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/184263-15-01-industrialcraft-v704/
#278 [21:36] <Anthrophobic> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/86765-14-01sdks-guns-atv-grappling-hook-and-utilitiesv3/
#279 [21:36] <Anthrophobic> Seeing as how the industrial needs the modloaderMP from the SDK I thougth both of them installed at once would work. But as soon as I installed SDK Gun pack I tried to test it and clicked login and got a black screen.
#280 [21:37] <Kealper> mods are not this channel's forte, but you could check #risucraft
#281 [21:39] <Truexile> k im gonna uninstall norton, reboot and try again, wish me luck
#282 [21:39] <Kealper> if Norton isn't his problem, then i'll have AuBot kick me from the channel
#283 [21:41] <Anthrophobic> Thanks Kealper they helped me out.
#284 [21:41] <Kealper> they often do lol
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#286 [21:44] <Truexile> any other ideas? Norton is fully UNinstalled and SAME problem
#287 [21:44] <Kealper> you restarted your computer, too?
#288 [21:44] <Truexile> yes it made me
#289 [21:45] <Truexile> i have no antivirus software at all atm
#290 [21:45] <Kealper> well, then i am obliged to paste in here what i said after you left, after saying this: i'm totally out of ideas then, it's got to be something with your internet connection....try going to http://speedtest.net and putting the share result image in here when you are done
#291 [21:46] <Kealper> 21:39:30 <@Kealper> if Norton isn't his problem, then i'll have AuBot kick me from the channel
#292 [21:46] <Kealper> .kick Kealper
#293 [21:46] <Kealper> bah
#294 [21:46] <Kealper> !load mod_bot
#295 [21:46] <Kealper> .kick Kealper
#296 [21:46] * AuBot kicked Kealper from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Kealper)
#297 [21:46] <Truexile> lol
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#299 [21:47] <Kealper> right then
#300 [21:47] <Truexile> lol
#301 [21:48] <Kealper> also...you can reinstall Norton now (or later) since that wasn't the issue
#302 [21:48] <Truexile> good idea
#303 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Try an update of NIC drivers?
#304 [21:48] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: happens on both of his computers
#305 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#306 [21:49] <Kealper> and they both had Norton installed, so i was saying it was either Norton or it's his internet :/
#307 [21:49] <Kealper> and he's already restarted his router, so...
#308 [21:49] <Kealper> and it worked last night without issue
#309 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#310 [21:50] <Kealper> only thing i can think of now is that something is messed up with his internet for some reason
#311 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> How is it connected? wired? wireless?
#312 [21:51] <Kealper> wired on his main, and i would assume wireless on his laptop
#313 [21:51] <Truexile> yes
#314 [21:51] <Truexile> i got rogers bussiness internet if that means anything to you
#315 [21:53] <Kealper> well...still run a speed test from http://speedtest.net and link the share result image in here
#316 [21:53] <Truexile> k
#317 [21:53] <Kealper> that is probably not the issue, but i'm out of ideas :/
#318 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Have you done the obvious and reinstalled minecraft?
#319 [21:54] <Kealper> he's done that, too
#320 [21:54] <Truexile> yea even made a guest act and reinstalled and nothin
#321 [21:54] <Kealper> but then, there is that it does it on two separate computers...same issue, and the issue was not there yesterday :/
#322 [21:55] <Truexile> well i shouldnt say that, it worked maybe %75 yesterday
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#325 [21:57] <Truexile> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1302441610.png
#326 [21:57] <Kealper> yeah that's definitely not the issue
#327 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Brand of NIC?
#328 [21:58] <Truexile> is that my network card?
#329 [21:58] * GreyVulpine nods
#329 [21:59] <xales> Kealper: I am going to be restarting tonight for a kernel downgrade
#330 [21:59] <Truexile> Brodcom Netlink Gigabit Ethernet is what it says
#331 [21:59] <xales> (to lts, because I hate kernel upgrades)
#332 [21:59] <Kealper> xales: first time i've been off this irc in like over a month \o/
#333 [21:59] <xales> you timed out while you were away, actually
#334 [21:59] <Kealper> but ok, fine by me, your server lol
#335 [21:59] <xales> I'm not quite sure how though...none of the other 6 users on the same IRC server did
#336 [22:00] <Kealper> oh, i figured as much....i was out of #CHANNEL when i reconnected to ssh today
#337 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Could you try looking for driver updates for that?
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#339 [22:00] <Truexile> sure
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#342 [22:04] <Truexile> there up to date
#343 [22:06] <t3a> Is anyone here good with redstone?
#344 [22:06] <Boreeas> Kinda
#345 [22:06] <t3a> how does one make a program counter?
#346 [22:07] <Boreeas> you mean a clock?
#347 [22:07] <t3a> well this video calls it a program counter
#348 [22:07] <Boreeas> What is it supposed to do?
#349 [22:07] <t3a> http://www.youtube.com/user/Salajapaju#p/u/3/OXPsKCeK9Hc
#350 [22:07] <t3a> go to 5:34
#351 [22:07] <t3a> *5:23
#352 [22:08] * Jethr0Paladin [Jethr0Paladin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#353 [22:08] <Jethr0Paladin> How do I speak in the minecraft channel? I registered my user name.
#354 [22:08] <Boreeas> Nope, that's over my head
#355 [22:09] <Kealper> ?? irc
#356 [22:09] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#357 [22:09] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#358 [22:09] <Jethr0Paladin> That's not useful, Voxelhead.
#359 [22:09] <Jethr0Paladin> I registered my name.
#360 [22:09] <xales> Jethr0Paladin: Then IDENTIFY for it
#361 [22:10] <Kealper> /msg nickserv identify password
#362 [22:10] <xales> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY (password)
#363 [22:10] <xales> bah
#364 [22:10] * Kealper karate chopped that answer
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#365 [22:10] <Jethr0Paladin> That's dumb. Old school irc auto idented back in the day.
#366 [22:10] <Jethr0Paladin> Thanks though.
#367 [22:10] <xolotl> Well, that's when people actually ran identd servers, yeah?
#368 [22:11] <xolotl> Which is a pretty outdated concept now that everyone's on their own host
#369 [22:11] <Jethr0Paladin> ./shrug
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#371 [22:11] <xales> Services != identd
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#373 [22:11] <xales> Also, you are using Mibbit
#374 [22:11] <Jethr0Paladin> So?
#375 [22:11] <xolotl> Heh
#376 [22:11] <xales> so there is no ident check involved anyway :)
#377 [22:11] <Jethr0Paladin> mirc's too much work to download now.
#378 [22:11] <xolotl> Hardly oldschool then, eh? :)
#379 [22:12] <Jethr0Paladin> I do miss my mirc .7 release.
#380 [22:12] * Kealper does not miss mirc one bit >.>
#380 [22:12] <Jethr0Paladin> With Winamp linking addon
#381 [22:12] <Truexile> lol winamp
#382 [22:12] <Truexile> ya thats bnack when it was good
#383 [22:13] <Jethr0Paladin> Correct.
#384 [22:13] <Kealper> i actually sort of like the latest Winamp
#385 [22:14] <Kealper> it seems the fastest for handling my music library
#386 [22:14] <Jethr0Paladin> Can it read your iPod though?
#387 [22:14] <Truexile> didnt it same something about whipping the llamas ass?
#388 [22:14] <Truexile> does it still do that?
#389 [22:14] <Kealper> i would never taint my computer via an ipod
#390 [22:14] <Jethr0Paladin> It's a better mp3 player than a Zune
#391 [22:14] <Jethr0Paladin> Or a generic pos one
#392 [22:15] <Truexile> wait its giving me a new error
#393 [22:15] <Truexile> read time out
#394 [22:15] * Kealper has a Sony Walkman ._.
#394 [22:16] <Jethr0Paladin> So, is it possible to find out when you purchased Minecraft, for sake of arguing with someone?
#395 [22:16] <Kealper> yes, if you know the right people
#396 [22:16] <Jethr0Paladin> Are those people around?
#397 [22:17] <xolotl> generic pos mp3 player > (zune|ipod)
#398 [22:17] <Kealper> nope, it's way late in Seden
#399 [22:17] <Kealper> Sweden*
#400 [22:17] <Jethr0Paladin> D:
#401 [22:17] <Truexile> is there a difference between a Socket Write Error and a Read Time Out?
#402 [22:17] <Jethr0Paladin> I wonder if there's an IndyCraft channel around here somewhere.
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#405 [22:22] <Yetanotherx> How do you start minecraft.jar from the command line with a username and password?
#406 [22:22] <Yetanotherx> (not the launcher)
#407 [22:23] <xales> You can't start minecraft.jar without using the launcher
#408 [22:23] <Anthro> hey all im back
#409 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/post/3427294253/welcome-to-the-new-minecraft-launcher
#410 [22:23] <Anthro> xales i need help :(
#411 [22:23] * GreyVulpine points
#411 [22:23] <xales> Anthro: With?
#412 [22:23] <Anthro> so i downloaded my server
#413 [22:23] <Anthro> but my freind cant connect but i can
#414 [22:24] <xales> What IP are they trying to connect to?
#415 [22:24] <Anthro> 192.168.1.5
#416 [22:24] <xales> That is an internal IP. It only works if they are on the same network as you
#417 [22:24] <xales> They have to connect to your external IP
#418 [22:24] <Anthro> how do i find it?
#419 [22:25] <xales> You can go to a site like http://whatismyip.com/ or just say !myip here
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#421 [22:25] <xales> If you are behind a router, you need to port forward for them to be able to connect
#422 [22:25] <Yetanotherx> Sorry, computer crashed. Did anyoen try to answer my question?
#423 [22:26] <xales> You can't start minecraft.jar itself, you still have to use the launcher executable
#424 [22:26] <xales> You can, however, specify argumetns for that
#425 [22:26] <xales> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/post/3427294253/welcome-to-the-new-minecraft-launcher
#426 [22:27] <Yetanotherx> Sigh
#427 [22:27] <Anthro> how can give a name to my server?
#428 [22:27] <xales> Anthro: Do you mean typing something like asdf.com instead of an IP?
#429 [22:27] <Anthro> yesh
#430 [22:28] <xales> You could either user a free service such as DynDns (easy) or buy a domain (costs money, very complicated if you don't have experience with it)
#431 [22:28] <xales> s/user/use/
#432 [22:28] <Anthro> ooo where can i go to do the free one?
#433 [22:29] <xales> As I said, DynDns :)
#434 [22:29] <Anthro> .com?
#435 [22:29] <xales> http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/
#436 [22:29] <Anthro> >w<
#437 [22:29] <xales> Also, Google. ._.
#438 [22:31] <mib_hmuofu> hey xales how do i clear my cache or what was it you wanted me to do if your emember? sorry.
#439 [22:31] <Anthro> thanks man
#440 [22:31] <Anthro> now she is getting timed out when trying to connect
#441 [22:31] <xales> Anthro: You need to port forward
#442 [22:32] <Anthro> how do i do that?
#443 [22:32] <xales> mib_hmuofu: Clear your cache in..what?
#444 [22:32] <xales> Anthro: Go to http://portfoward.com/ and find the model of your router, skip the advertisement, and click "Minecraft Server" then follow the instructions
#445 [22:32] <xales> ignore all the ads asking you to download something
#446 [22:32] <Anthro> thanks
#447 [22:33] <mib_hmuofu> firefox. i had this problem; Applet error (7) - Recently I've experienced a error whenever I try to go play Minecraft. It comes up as: "An error occured while loading the applet." "Please contact support to resolve this issue." "Fatal error occured (7): com.mojang.minecraft.MinecraftApplet" I've uninstalled-reinstalled Java, but to no avail
#448 [22:33] <xales> mib_hmuofu: Are you trying to play Classic, or Beta?
#449 [22:33] <mib_hmuofu> classic, in browser
#450 [22:34] <xales> What OS?
#451 [22:34] <mib_hmuofu> windows 7
#452 [22:34] <Anthro> that site just brings me to a ganeric search site
#453 [22:35] <xales> Anthro: Sorry, I typo'd the name
#454 [22:35] <xales> it's http://portforward.com/
#455 [22:35] <xales> mib_hmuofu: When Minecraft loads, does a Java icon appear in the notification area (bottom right)?
#456 [22:35] <mib_hmuofu> one second ill see
#457 [22:36] <mib_hmuofu> yes it does
#458 [22:37] <xales> Okay, actually, try this
#459 [22:37] <xales> Press the Windows key and R, and in the box, type %APPDATA% and click Run
#460 [22:38] <xales> Open the folder `Temp` and delete the folder named minecraft.net
#461 [22:38] <mib_hmuofu> .minecraft?
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#464 [22:40] <morton> sorry its me again different name. so i deleted the file, now what?
#465 [22:40] <jDodson99> Is anyone here good with redstone?
#466 [22:41] <jDodson99> I need to make an automatic double door (pressure plates and the like) that can also lock
#467 [22:41] <NinjaKirby> Flick a Lever to disable/enable both pressure plates?
#468 [22:41] <jDodson99> Er, I think yeah
#469 [22:41] <morton> xales?
#470 [22:42] <Anthro> o.o my router isnt on there
#471 [22:43] <NinjaKirby> jDodson99, implement the usual XOR gate, and I think just run the Master Lever into the final blocks. I'll check though.
#472 [22:43] <Anthro> like the list for netgear m i ne isnt listed
#473 [22:44] <jDodson99> Usual...
#474 [22:44] <jDodson99> XOR gate...?
#475 [22:44] <jDodson99> I only know how to make automatic doors.
#476 [22:44] <jDodson99> That's honest-to-god the only thing I can make.
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#478 [22:44] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, I wonder if it's worth me running a server, and we could build it together? :D
#479 [22:45] <jDodson99> I'm actually building it ON a sever
#480 [22:45] <jDodson99> *server
#481 [22:45] <jDodson99> 50.22.36.134:25629
#482 [22:45] <NinjaKirby> Oh, awesome, thanks, I'll pop on
#483 [22:45] <jDodson99> Say /warp adventure
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#485 [22:47] <xales> Anthro: Is that the actual model number of it?
#486 [22:47] <xales> morton: see if it works now
#487 [22:47] <Anthro> is what?
#488 [22:48] <morton> Applet error (7) - Minecraft? Ok. Recently I've experienced a error whenever I try to go play Minecraft. It comes up as: "An error occured while loading the applet." "Please contact support to resolve this issue." "Fatal error occured (7): com.mojang.minecraft.MinecraftApplet" I've uninstalled-reinstalled Java, but to no avail. How do I fix this? I'm als
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#490 [22:48] <xales> Anthro: Whatever you looked for
#491 [22:49] <xales> morton: Does it work after deleting that file?
#492 [22:49] <morton> no it does not
#493 [22:49] <Anthro> WPN824N
#494 [22:49] <xales> morton: What file did you delete?
#495 [22:49] <morton> .minecraft
#496 [22:49] <spmedia> Nyan cat skin ;D http://minecraft-skins.com/2011/05/nyan-cat-skin/
#497 [22:49] <morton> i couldnt find a 'temp' file
#498 [22:49] <xales> morton: Wrong one
#499 [22:50] <xales> spmedia: Please don't advertise here
#500 [22:50] <spmedia> is there a chat to share player skins
#501 [22:50] <xales> No
#502 [22:50] <spmedia> :\
#503 [22:50] <xales> morton: Try the Windows+R again, type %TEMP% this time
#504 [22:50] <xales> look for minecraft.net and delete that
#505 [22:50] <xales> spmedia: That's what the forum is for.
#506 [22:50] <morton> okay ill try again
#507 [22:50] <Anthro> -pokes xales-
#508 [22:50] <xales> Anthro: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WPN824/WPN824index.htm
#509 [22:51] <Anthro> woot
#510 [22:51] <spmedia> ah its back up
#511 [22:52] <spmedia> didnt notice :)
#512 [22:52] <Anthro> should i download the PFconfig?
#513 [22:52] <xales> Anthro: No
#514 [22:53] <xales> Follow the instructions it gives, don't click the advertisements
#515 [22:54] <Anthro> kk
#516 [22:56] <morton> ok thankyou so much it works but i dont have the level i saved! oh well im glad it works now thankyou
#517 [22:57] <xales> morton: It's gone because you deleted the wrong folder ._.
#518 [22:57] <Anthro> what the hell i put my ip in the address bar but it doesnt work
#519 [22:57] <xales> Anthro: You have to put exactly what it says. 192.168.1.1
#520 [22:58] <Anthro> ._.
#521 [23:02] <Anthro> how will i know it worked
#522 [23:02] <Anthro> ?
#523 [23:04] <Anthro> xales?
#524 [23:04] <morton> i would lol
#525 [23:04] <xales> Anthro: If other people can connect
#526 [23:04] <Anthro> ok
#527 [23:06] <Anthro> woot thanks man
#528 [23:06] <Anthro> now how do i give myself items?
#529 [23:07] <xales> Anthro: If you are an op, you can use the /give command
#530 [23:07] <Anthro> ooooo
#531 [23:07] <Anthro> what do i type?
#532 [23:08] <xales> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands
#533 [23:13] <Anthro> ok how do i teleport a player the command it gave me doesnt work
#534 [23:14] <xales> Just like it says
#535 [23:14] <xales> /tp player1 player2
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#538 [23:36] <NinjaKirby> Xales, irc noob question, how did you write that without mIRC interpretting it as an attempted command?
#539 [23:36] <xales> I don't know how to use mIRC
#540 [23:36] <xales> I think it's two slashes
#541 [23:36] <xales> on mIRC
#542 [23:37] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, I'm on mIRC, I just tried "/derp ssdg" and it tried to take it as command.
#543 [23:37] <NinjaKirby> I guess it's client dependant
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#545 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Try ctrl-enter
#546 [23:37] <Lunamon> Ctrl+Enter
#547 [23:37] <NinjaKirby> /derp aight then
#548 [23:37] <NinjaKirby> Ah, epic win my friends, nice
#549 [23:38] <NinjaKirby> Well, that's years of curiosity satiated, time for bed XD Night
#550 [23:38] <xales> hmm
#551 [23:39] <xales> /derp
#552 [23:39] <NinjaKirby> lol...
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#554 [23:41] <twist> lol so i am in a pickle here and could use some assistance...
#555 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> What's up?
#556 [23:43] <twist> i just reformatted my laptop but forgot to back up my minecraft jar lol (fail)
#557 [23:43] <spmedia> so re DL ?
#558 [23:43] <twist> where? lol
#559 [23:43] <twist> and how
#560 [23:43] <twist> i r newb
#561 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#562 [23:44] <twist> ahhh yes forgot hat there was a simple download link on there lol
#563 [23:44] <twist> sorry im so used to complicated crap when i forget to back something up
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#565 [23:45] <twist> ok well thanks for the help sir :)
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#567 [23:46] <t3a> Is anyone here good with redstone?
#568 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> A few of us are.
#569 [23:47] <Wug> i'm ok
#570 [23:47] <Wug> nothing big, but I can hide an xor under a double door with 2 levers and make it look pretty
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#576 [23:55] <Wug> what, everyone else was doing it
#577 [23:56] <Wug> also, how does one stab anything with a danish
#578 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Because I can.
#579 [23:56] <Wug> xp
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