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#6 [00:53] <amphibulus> I have a problem with my controls in Minecraft 1.5. If I try to map a key, instead of the chosen key being entered, it will be a random number from 0-9. If I tap a single key repeatedly (any key) my character does a repeated chain of movements. I can't play with this problem and any help would be really great.
#7 [00:58] <amphibulus> This channel is useless.
#8 [00:59] <spmedia> lol
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#10 [01:06] <chasbrown> that sounds like a personal problem to me
#11 [01:08] <chasbrown> when you ask questions on irc you gotta stick around, you cant expect everyone to be glaring at the AFK irc channel waiting for a question to be entered
#12 [01:09] <spmedia> :Z
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#17 [01:20] <xolotl> chasbrown: If only he'd have asked half an hour later; my glaring-at-IRC shift almost started!
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#29 [01:29] <Wug> lol at how aubot keeps flooding out when lots of people rejoin
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#40 [02:37] <ss> I get the message; Bad video card drivers and opdating video card drivers don't help. Can I do anything else?
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#57 [03:52] <JasonZero> I have a friend with a problem, we set off quite a bit of TNT in his 128mb server
#58 [03:53] <JasonZero> and now it's crashed and he can't get back in
#59 [03:53] <JasonZero> we've tried restarting, and going through putty but putty crashes when he puts his info in
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#61 [03:54] <xales> JasonZero: Powercycle it
#62 [03:55] <JasonZero> what?
#63 [03:55] <xales> JasonZero: Turn the server off and back on.
#64 [03:56] <JasonZero> alright one sec
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#67 [03:58] <Parent> Ohai
#68 [03:59] <Tylermeme12345678> Ohai guys
#69 [04:00] <xales> Hi
#70 [04:01] <Tylermeme12345678> Does any1 know anything on bukkit permissions
#71 [04:01] <xales> #permissions
#72 [04:01] <Tylermeme12345678> #permissions
#73 [04:01] <Tylermeme12345678> ?
#74 [04:01] <Tylermeme12345678> lol
#75 [04:01] <xales> It's the name of a channel.
#76 [04:02] <xales> /join #permissions
#77 [04:02] <xales> ._.
#78 [04:02] <Tylermeme12345678> Yes iknow i was making shure
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#81 [04:06] <JasonZero> ok so flipping it off, letting it sit, then turning it back on didn't work
#82 [04:06] <JasonZero> still shows end of stream error :/
#83 [04:06] <Psyborg> Win or linux?
#84 [04:07] <xales> JasonZero: Try moving the 'world' folder elsewhere
#85 [04:08] <Tylermeme12345678> Windows
#86 [04:08] <Tylermeme12345678> Im with jason
#87 [04:09] <Psyborg> When you start the server app does the status readout show any errors?
#88 [04:09] <Tylermeme12345678> Let me see
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#90 [04:10] <Tylermeme12345678> Im checking to see if this is a recent backup
#91 [04:10] <Psyborg> If you have a backup of the world folder restoring that should fix it
#92 [04:11] <Tylermeme12345678> Yes but if its not recent cause we just started making spawn
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#94 [04:12] <Tylermeme12345678> Okay thats odd
#95 [04:12] <Tylermeme12345678> It just started letting me login
#96 [04:15] <Psyborg> If it still doesnt let him maybe its a bad player file
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#109 [06:02] <koulchilebaiz> Hi all, I would like to create a script for mc server so that every 10 min, a set time 0 execute
#110 [06:02] <koulchilebaiz> executes
#111 [06:02] <koulchilebaiz> im on mac os 10.6
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#120 [06:30] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Support and New Payment Options! (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/jblvY7
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#124 [06:46] <Theegrim> I have a problem .. Since a couple of updates ago before the launcher thing i can get as far as the mojang splash screen then the program hangs then exits ... Help
#125 [06:48] <Theegrim> Also i tried reinstalling it from a fresh download it didnt help
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#130 [06:59] <Jesse> Hello
#131 [07:00] <Jesse> Anyone there that can help me with minecraft issue?
#132 [07:00] <lemon-rev> tell us all what it might be and we can all try and help
#133 [07:00] <Jesse> Ever since the last update to minecraft, I would be able to play for a few minutes
#134 [07:01] <Jesse> then all of the sudden, my screen goes all black
#135 [07:01] <Jesse> then i get an error saying my display drivers crashed and recovered
#136 [07:01] <lemon-rev> hm,
#137 [07:01] <Jesse> And then minecraft is frozen, so have to close it
#138 [07:01] <lemon-rev> what type of graphics card have you got, plus have you reinstalled java, and possibly deleted the /bin directory < 3 things to check and do
#139 [07:02] <Jesse> uh
#140 [07:02] <Jesse> I think it's called Nvidia?
#141 [07:02] <Jesse> something like that?
#142 [07:03] <Jesse> I'm not quiet sure if i have the recent version of java, but i can go and redownload it
#143 [07:03] <Jesse> where would the /bin directory be by he way?
#144 [07:03] <Jesse> the*
#145 [07:03] <lemon-rev> ok
#146 [07:03] <lemon-rev> the documents and settings folder or %appdata% win 7
#147 [07:03] <lemon-rev> .minecraft folder
#148 [07:04] <lemon-rev> java < java.com
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#150 [07:04] <lemon-rev> and start / run / dxdiag < goto tab display and it should tell you what you have
#151 [07:05] <mib_4ndx2b> hi somebody is french here?
#152 [07:06] <tyteen4a03> probably not, but we will stilll google translate :)
#153 [07:06] <mib_4ndx2b> yes
#154 [07:06] <mib_4ndx2b> but i try with my little english
#155 [07:06] <Jesse> I have "NVIDIA GeForce 960M GS" as my display driver
#156 [07:06] <tyteen4a03> mib_4ndx2b: ok :)
#157 [07:07] <lemon-rev> jesse was that a laptop your trying it on ?
#158 [07:07] <Jesse> yes it is
#159 [07:07] <lemon-rev> ok
#160 [07:07] <mib_4ndx2b> well i have problem, when i launch minecraft.exe i have an error with javawe.exe
#161 [07:08] <tyteen4a03> mib_4ndx2b: http://www.pastebin.com
#162 [07:08] <lemon-rev> jesse have you updated your card at all ?
#163 [07:08] <tyteen4a03> paste the error there then paste the link here
#164 [07:09] <mib_4ndx2b> and when i show detail it concern java.dll
#165 [07:09] <Jesse> uh let me make the error happen again real quick, what link?
#166 [07:09] <tyteen4a03> mib_4ndx2b: you still need to paste it
#167 [07:09] <tyteen4a03> so we can know what exactly the problem is
#168 [07:10] <lemon-rev> hagn
#169 [07:10] <Jesse> I wouldn't know how
#170 [07:10] <lemon-rev> jesse what os ?
#171 [07:11] <Jesse> Windows Vista
#172 [07:11] <lemon-rev> k
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#174 [07:11] <lemon-rev> 32 / 64 ?
#175 [07:11] <fenster> hello?
#176 [07:11] <Jesse> 64bit
#177 [07:11] <lemon-rev> yes fenseter
#178 [07:11] <lemon-rev> thanks jesse
#179 [07:11] <lemon-rev> jesse http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-270.61-whql-driver.html
#180 [07:12] <fenster> ok i deleted my texture pack in the archive then replaced it with another now mincraft wont load up
#181 [07:12] <lemon-rev> fenster we can help with vinella mc but not modded /j #bukket
#182 [07:13] <tyteen4a03> #bukkit
#183 [07:13] <Jesse> Okay, i'll download this real quick and see if it works. Thanks again lemon-rev
#184 [07:13] <mib_4ndx2b> i have paste
#185 [07:13] <lemon-rev> np jesse
#186 [07:13] <fenster> i dont have any mods
#187 [07:13] <lemon-rev> fenster texture is a mod
#188 [07:13] <lemon-rev> if you delete the bin and texture and let mc redownload again should run ok again
#189 [07:14] <fenster> o ok ill try thanks
#190 [07:17] <mib_4ndx2b> i have named error javawe.exe
#191 [07:17] <lemon-rev> mib what os, and what version of java you got ?
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#193 [07:18] <mib_4ndx2b> windows xp SP2 i have just downloaded the latest version of java
#194 [07:18] <mib_xvxvwy> i had a couple questions anyone able to help out
#195 [07:19] <mib_xvxvwy> ???
#196 [07:19] <lemon-rev> 4ndx2b thanks, it should be working if java is corectly installed / delte the bin directory and see if tha helps
#197 [07:19] <mib_xvxvwy> hello????
#198 [07:19] <lemon-rev> xyxvwy stop being impatiant , look ask
#199 [07:19] <lemon-rev> and we can see wtf we can do, if your nice
#200 [07:20] <mib_4ndx2b> bin directory in java or in minecraft?
#201 [07:20] <lemon-rev> in minecraft
#202 [07:20] <mib_4ndx2b> oki wait i do
#203 [07:20] <lemon-rev> k
#204 [07:20] <mib_xvxvwy> ok sorry jeez bro just wondering if anyone was still here that could help just had a question about seeds for world generation what are trigger words and how does it work
#205 [07:21] <lemon-rev> depends on what you term trigger worldsd, but theres mods that allow certain terrain to only be built useing a mod, and we dont deal with those
#206 [07:21] <mib_4ndx2b> the same error hapen the windows javaw.exe...
#207 [07:21] <lemon-rev> how ever a seed generation depends on what your really asking about it
#208 [07:21] <lemon-rev> hm,
#209 [07:21] <lemon-rev> mib_4ndx2b when is the error ocuring ?
#210 [07:21] <mib_xvxvwy> ok i was just wondering if when that option was made if there were any specific words and what they were thanks for the help
#211 [07:22] <mib_4ndx2b> when i click on minecraft.exe
#212 [07:22] <lemon-rev> mib_xvxvwy < look in minecraft fourms for links to certain seeds if thats what you wanta try yea
#213 [07:22] <mib_4ndx2b> i try to login but i have a black screen
#214 [07:23] <mib_xvxvwy> ok thanks
#215 [07:23] <lemon-rev> mib_4ndx2b when does the black screen stright after login screen or after the mojang logo
#216 [07:23] <mib_4ndx2b> just after the login
#217 [07:24] <lemon-rev> did mc work on your machine before ?
#218 [07:24] <mib_4ndx2b> no i just buy yesterday
#219 [07:25] <tyteen4a03> can you provide some background info about your computer?
#220 [07:25] <lemon-rev> well if java is updated, then possible update graphics driver then im out of luck from me
#221 [07:25] <tyteen4a03> e.g OS, Display Card, Java version (if you can get it) etc
#222 [07:26] <mib_4ndx2b> i have windows XP SP2, graphic card ati radeon 9600 series and java v 6
#223 [07:28] <tyteen4a03> can you try redownloading java 6 first? this will ensure you have the latest update from sun
#224 [07:29] <mib_4ndx2b> i have redownload java 6 10 min ago
#225 [07:29] <mib_4ndx2b> and i have restarted my computer
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#227 [07:30] <tyteen4a03> still not working?
#228 [07:30] <mib_4ndx2b> no
#229 [07:30] <mib_4ndx2b> but if it's help you i can play in my browser
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#231 [07:34] <mib_4ndx2b> and yesterday i have try to uninstall java and minecraft and redownload
#232 [07:36] <tyteen4a03> can you launch minecraft again, and pastebin the error in the box?
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#234 [07:36] <mib_4ndx2b> AppName: javaw.exe AppVer: 6.0.250.6 ModName: java.dll ModVer: 6.0.250.6 Offset: 00004e2f
#235 [07:37] <tyteen4a03> is that a windows crash error or minecraft one?
#236 [07:37] <mib_4ndx2b> i think windows
#237 [07:39] <tyteen4a03> its your windows then...
#238 [07:40] <mib_4ndx2b> yes?
#239 [07:42] <tyteen4a03> not really sure the error then... you might want to ask others
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#241 [07:43] <mib_9zbthy> Hey guys
#242 [07:43] <mib_9zbthy> I just bought mincraft
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#244 [07:43] <tyteen4a03> mib_9zbthy: yes?
#245 [07:43] <mib_4ndx2b> okay
#246 [07:43] <mib_9zbthy> and everytime I try and play it goes black and freezes
#247 [07:44] <tyteen4a03> any errors?
#248 [07:44] <mib_9zbthy> nope
#249 [07:44] <mib_9zbthy> just black
#250 [07:44] <tyteen4a03> can you tell me your OS, Java version (if you can figure it out), and Display card?
#251 [07:44] <Kad> hey, I have the same problem as mib_9
#252 [07:44] <mib_9zbthy> Windows 7
#253 [07:45] <tyteen4a03> can you also figure out your display card? it helps
#254 [07:45] <mib_9zbthy> how
#255 [07:45] <KriLL3> mib_9zbthy: x64 or x86?
#256 [07:45] <KriLL3> ...
#257 [07:45] <KriLL3> you don't know your GPU?
#258 [07:45] <mib_9zbthy> x32
#259 [07:45] <mib_9zbthy> its 32 bit
#260 [07:46] <tyteen4a03> 32bit = x86 just a tip
#261 [07:46] <Kad> win 7x64 , ati hd 5870, newest java version. Screen goes black and closes every time I try to log in :(
#262 [07:46] <tyteen4a03> by newest you mean?
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#264 [07:46] <mib_9zbthy> mine doesn't close it just goes black
#265 [07:46] <mib_9zbthy> I updated my java today
#266 [07:46] <tyteen4a03> newest java release downloadable or java 7 at all?
#267 [07:47] <Kad> newest 64-bit version they have on their site
#268 [07:47] <Kad> downloaded about an hour ago
#269 [07:47] <tyteen4a03> k
#270 [07:47] <Jesse> lemon-rev are you there still?
#271 [07:47] <lemon-rev> jesse
#272 [07:47] <lemon-rev> yes
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#274 [07:47] <Jesse> I just updated my NVIDIA and java
#275 [07:47] <tyteen4a03> mib_4ndx2b: are your winxp 32bit or 64 bit?
#276 [07:47] <Jesse> and i tried up minecraf
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#278 [07:47] <Jesse> still crashed
#279 [07:47] <Jesse> same error
#280 [07:48] <jamesmcm> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 19/05/11 9:47 PM
#281 [07:48] <jamesmcm> how do i fix?
#282 [07:48] <Kad> by updating your video card drivers?
#283 [07:48] <mib_4ndx2b> wait i go to see (i try)
#284 [07:48] <tyteen4a03> display card please?
#285 [07:48] <lemon-rev> jesse seems a lot of others are having the exact same problem
#286 [07:48] <jamesmcm> intel r g41 express chipset most recent update
#287 [07:48] <jamesmcm> is there any fix
#288 [07:48] <jamesmcm> or did i waste 20 dollars?
#289 [07:48] <tyteen4a03> jamesmcm: there are some problems with the intel drivers at the moment with the launcher
#290 [07:48] <Jesse> I guess i'll just have to wait for an update that fixes the problem
#291 [07:49] <Jesse> Thanks anyways lemon-rev
#292 [07:49] <lemon-rev> jesse do you have another computer yyou could test,and can you log into minecraft.net and see if you can play via the browswer
#293 [07:49] <tyteen4a03> jamesmcm: you can still play online, it only means that the standalone launcher will not be available for you
#294 [07:49] <tyteen4a03> Notch still hasnt fixed this, meh
#295 [07:49] <mib_4ndx2b> i think 32bit
#296 [07:49] <tyteen4a03> k
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#298 [07:50] <Taos> Im running a minecraft server and there is no lag normally but one of my friends joins and he suffers loads of lag, he is on a decent machine and has not many background processes etc etc I have checked all the normal stuff its only minecraft that causes this lag
#299 [07:50] <Jesse> I don't, but a friend of mine was able to play his, on his laptop worked fine
#300 [07:50] <jamesmcm> @tyteen4a03 how can i play?
#301 [07:50] <tyteen4a03> minecraft.net/game
#302 [07:50] <lemon-rev> taos its not hes computer its hes internet
#303 [07:50] <Taos> lemon-rev: thats what I thought but then we play unreal together and it runs at like 22 ping.
#304 [07:51] <tyteen4a03> Depending on his speed, his location compared to yours and other factors, latency will be different for different people
#305 [07:51] <tyteen4a03> Taos: 22ms?
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#307 [07:51] <Taos> to my location aye
#308 [07:51] <lemon-rev> taos minecraft doesnt work like standered games, it uses a lot more bandwith so maybe it still is, but hm sounds a miss sorry to hear your friend lagg is too great
#309 [07:52] <Taos> Hmmmm
#310 [07:52] <Miranae> Is it possible to connect to a mc server from china?
#311 [07:52] <mib_9zbthy> wow, noone seems to help anyone
#312 [07:52] <tyteen4a03> Miranae: depending on the location
#313 [07:52] <mib_9zbthy> too many peopl having problems
#314 [07:52] <tyteen4a03> The GFW might block some servers
#315 [07:52] <mib_9zbthy> I really wanted to just play the game....
#316 [07:52] <Miranae> It's a private server but I'm getting kicked off immediately
#317 [07:52] <tyteen4a03> Miranae: do they have a whitelist?
#318 [07:52] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy < have you tryed all the surgestions in this channel so far
#319 [07:52] <Miranae> It works fine at home, i'm just in china atm
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#321 [07:53] <tyteen4a03> Miranae: can you tell me your server ip?
#322 [07:53] <Miranae> I'm listed on it
#323 [07:53] <mib_9zbthy> I haven't seen any
#324 [07:53] <Miranae> We run it through hamachi if that makes a difference
#325 [07:53] <KriLL3> all the wooden planks vanished from my house at Y 10, but all other parts of it are there, wooden stairs, fences etc, any ideas?
#326 [07:53] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy what about reinstalling java and whatnot have you tryed any of those ?
#327 [07:53] <mib_9zbthy> people are saying go the brower the browers fucks up my internetbrower with the same black screen
#328 [07:54] <lemon-rev> hm
#329 [07:54] <Miranae> I can give the hamachi address but that doesn't seem useful
#330 [07:54] <mib_9zbthy> I'll try reinstalled java now
#331 [07:54] <jamesmcm> so there's no fic.
#332 [07:54] <jamesmcm> ?
#333 [07:54] <tyteen4a03> it might affect
#334 [07:54] <jamesmcm> is there any fix? or not?
#335 [07:54] <lemon-rev> ok mib_9zbthy < delete the complete minecraft folder and all sub incuding the saves, and let mc re download, could be a file that stuffed up
#336 [07:54] <tyteen4a03> jamesmcm: playing through browser doenst work?
#337 [07:55] <tyteen4a03> Miranae: you can try giving the ip to me, but you should also give me the real address of that server
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#339 [07:55] <tyteen4a03> if you feel that the ip should be private, /query tyteen4a03 ip here
#340 [07:55] <mib_9zbthy> okay
#341 [07:56] <Miranae> Well the hamachi address is 5.197.46.214
#342 [07:56] <Miranae> I can't check the IP from here
#343 [07:56] <tyteen4a03> ok
#344 [07:56] <tyteen4a03> I am checking
#345 [07:56] <Miranae> Port forwarding isn't working for us so we did it through hamachi
#346 [07:57] <Miranae> THanks
#347 [07:57] <tyteen4a03> Miranae: it looks like your server is down
#348 [07:58] <tyteen4a03> my home: timeout
#349 [07:58] <jamesmcm> tyteen4a03 it works bbut its shit.
#350 [07:58] <mib_9zbthy> OMFG! now my username and password isn't fucking working
#351 [07:58] <spmedia> YO EVERYONE CALM DOWN
#352 [07:58] <tyteen4a03> miv_9zbthy: typo?
#353 [07:58] <spmedia> its going to be ok
#354 [07:58] <Miranae> It doesn't work unless you're on the hamachi group
#355 [07:58] <mib_9zbthy> I tried it 5 times
#356 [07:58] <tyteen4a03> jamesmcm: sorry but that will be only way to play MC for now for intel users
#357 [07:58] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy stop it and clam down, retype it, and please try again
#358 [07:58] <mib_9zbthy> retyped the whole thing
#359 [07:58] <Miranae> I can connect through a VPN which is what i found strange
#360 [07:58] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy then wait you could have throttled the login
#361 [07:59] <tyteen4a03> type it in a separate space, make sure it is correct then copy it in
#362 [07:59] <tyteen4a03> Miranae: yes, VPN connection are encrypted
#363 [07:59] <tyteen4a03> I am not sure then, you might want to give me the IP
#364 [07:59] <tyteen4a03> I mean
#365 [07:59] <tyteen4a03> whatever hamachi group or something
#366 [08:00] <tyteen4a03> only then I will be able to help
#367 [08:00] <mib_9zbthy> the texture at the bottom isn't working now where it said minecraft and looks like dirt its just black
#368 [08:00] <mib_9zbthy> and it really wont let me log in -.-
#369 [08:00] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy < have you something that is blocking minecraft
#370 [08:00] <tyteen4a03> sounds like a graphics card problem
#371 [08:00] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy < did you manage to get the re download of files minecraft does ?
#372 [08:01] <jamesmcm> do you think there will definatley be a fix in the future?
#373 [08:01] <mib_9zbthy> re download?
#374 [08:01] <mib_9zbthy> oh
#375 [08:01] <mib_9zbthy> yea I redownloaded them
#376 [08:01] <tyteen4a03> jamesmcm: not really sure, this bug existed since Alpha and Notch never fixed it
#377 [08:01] <mib_9zbthy> yea and unstalled the other ones
#378 [08:01] <tyteen4a03> I had to switch computer to play it too
#379 [08:01] <Miranae> Hm, I can't remember the password for it, anyway I was just wondering if you knew there was some kind of issue with foreign connections
#380 [08:01] <Miranae> Thanks
#381 [08:02] <mib_9zbthy> I'm from australia does that affect anything?
#382 [08:02] <koulchilebaiz> hi, whats the wooden slab id ? 44:2 ? its not working on my server ... any idea ? thanks
#383 [08:02] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy < wha you mean uninstalled , you can delete things in .minceaft and whatnot, so all your seeing is black, the back ground doesnt pop up with the version numbers anymore
#384 [08:02] <tyteen4a03> no
#385 [08:02] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy < im from canb erra, so if that helps i knwo
#386 [08:02] <tyteen4a03> it is possible, but if your server is on a home computer it shouldnt be blocks
#387 [08:02] <tyteen4a03> *blocked
#388 [08:02] <mib_9zbthy> yea
#389 [08:02] <mib_9zbthy> no background
#390 [08:02] <tyteen4a03> if you are on a VPS you might want to check with your vps company
#391 [08:02] <mib_9zbthy> I deleted what was in the .minecraft foloder
#392 [08:02] <Miranae> Oh my VPN is down, that's why i'm not connecting through it
#393 [08:03] <mib_9zbthy> the background doesn't work on the login screen and the game just goes black when I try and play
#394 [08:03] <mib_9zbthy> I paid $20 and I can't even play the damn game
#395 [08:03] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy < now you have reinstalled almost can you try the browser again for us
#396 [08:04] <tyteen4a03> Miranae: that explains :P
#397 [08:04] <mib_9zbthy> still black background
#398 [08:04] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy < hm
#399 [08:04] <mib_9zbthy> and wont accept my username and pass
#400 [08:04] <mib_9zbthy> so I can't redownload the game
#401 [08:04] <tyteen4a03> oh yews
#402 [08:05] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy i said you prob throttled it, you have to wait a good 10 to 30 mins for it to re clear
#403 [08:05] <tyteen4a03> mc.net's login system is currently unstable on classic
#404 [08:05] <lemon-rev> i think
#405 [08:05] <tyteen4a03> I think mc.net uses the same account system for classic and beta
#406 [08:05] <mib_9zbthy> but it only stopped accepted my username and pass when the background stopped working
#407 [08:06] <tyteen4a03> when was your last sucessful login attempt?
#408 [08:06] <mib_9zbthy> like before I redownloaded the launcher and before I deleted the .minecraft folder
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#410 [08:06] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy hm
#411 [08:07] <lemon-rev> mib_9zbthy so which luncher are you useing now ?
#412 [08:07] <mib_9zbthy> minecraft
#413 [08:07] <mib_9zbthy> I just redownloaded it then
#414 [08:07] <tyteen4a03> no
#415 [08:07] <tyteen4a03> standalone or web?
#416 [08:07] <mib_9zbthy> standalone
#417 [08:07] <mib_9zbthy> web plays black screen and locks chrome
#418 [08:08] <mib_9zbthy> like keeps a black screen over chrome
#419 [08:08] <mib_9zbthy> I have not successful gone to mainmenu or played game ye
#420 [08:08] <mib_9zbthy> t
#421 [08:08] <mib_9zbthy> just goes black after download
#422 [08:08] <bletch> whtat happends
#423 [08:08] <mib_9zbthy> and now it wont let me download
#424 [08:08] <bletch> whats the error
#425 [08:09] <mib_9zbthy> it just goes black no error
#426 [08:09] <bletch> chorme?
#427 [08:09] <mib_9zbthy> just stays black
#428 [08:09] <mib_9zbthy> yea
#429 [08:09] <mib_9zbthy> both chrome nad standalone
#430 [08:09] <bletch> is it a slow pc
#431 [08:09] <mib_9zbthy> nope
#432 [08:09] <bletch> xram?
#433 [08:09] <mib_9zbthy> 2.94ghz quad core
#434 [08:09] <bletch> ram?
#435 [08:09] <mib_9zbthy> 8gb ram
#436 [08:10] <bletch> weird
#437 [08:10] <mib_9zbthy> but only 4 because of windows 7 32bit
#438 [08:10] <bletch> hve you tried just download with explorer and then switch back
#439 [08:10] <bletch> or firefox?
#440 [08:10] <mib_9zbthy> nope
#441 [08:10] <mib_9zbthy> will that help?
#442 [08:10] <tyteen4a03> try with IE first
#443 [08:10] <bletch> no firefox
#444 [08:10] <bletch> better
#445 [08:10] <tyteen4a03> its only for testing
#446 [08:10] <tyteen4a03> browser doesnt matter
#447 [08:11] <bletch> ok
#448 [08:11] <tyteen4a03> just one that you dont normally use
#449 [08:11] <KriLL3> doesn't online minecraft use java? in that case the browser shouldn't matter, it just launches java
#450 [08:11] <mib_9zbthy> okay
#451 [08:11] <mib_9zbthy> I'll go IE because I dont have firefox
#452 [08:11] <bletch> ok
#453 [08:11] <mib_9zbthy> download from IE or play with broswer?
#454 [08:12] <tyteen4a03> no, play with IE
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#456 [08:12] <tyteen4a03> aka visit minecraft.net/game in IE
#457 [08:12] <mib_9zbthy> going now
#458 [08:12] <mib_9zbthy> okay I'm there
#459 [08:13] <mib_9zbthy> the game windows all white
#460 [08:13] <hhtjo> wait
#461 [08:13] <mib_9zbthy> like just a white box
#462 [08:13] <hhtjo> it helped for me
#463 [08:13] <tyteen4a03> hhtjo, yes?
#464 [08:13] <mib_9zbthy> still hasn't changed
#465 [08:13] <hhtjo> yeh
#466 [08:13] <tyteen4a03> mib_9zbthy: wait 30 sec, keep focus on the window
#467 [08:14] <mib_9zbthy> k
#468 [08:15] <hhtjo> if not try to download
#469 [08:15] <mib_9zbthy> nothing still white
#470 [08:15] <mib_9zbthy> refresh page?
#471 [08:15] <hhtjo> then try to go to http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#472 [08:16] <hhtjo> and download
#473 [08:16] <tyteen4a03> hhtjo, that didnt help
#474 [08:17] <hhtjo> wich link are you trying
#475 [08:17] <hhtjo> try this http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#476 [08:18] <mib_9zbthy> it didn't help
#477 [08:18] <mib_9zbthy> who are you
#478 [08:18] <mib_9zbthy> I dont know you did you hear what I was saying before no
#479 [08:18] <mib_9zbthy> you donno whats going on
#480 [08:18] <hhtjo> what du you mean
#481 [08:18] <tyteen4a03> hhtjo, its not about the downloading
#482 [08:19] <hhtjo> what happends
#483 [08:19] <hhtjo> i dont understand
#484 [08:19] <hhtjo> right?
#485 [08:19] <tyteen4a03> hhtjo: you didnt know the situation
#486 [08:19] <hhtjo> i thught
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#488 [08:19] <tyteen4a03> so I would suggest you help others for now, I am trying to help mib_9zbthy
#489 [08:19] <mib_9zbthy> it must be my java
#490 [08:19] <mib_9zbthy> its the only thing that would affect both
#491 [08:20] <tyteen4a03> when did you last install java?
#492 [08:22] <mib_9zbthy> I went to java and got the install like an hour ago
#493 [08:22] <mib_9zbthy> and reinstalled it well I think thats what it did
#494 [08:23] <mib_9zbthy> I went http://www.java.com/en/
#495 [08:24] <mib_9zbthy> and hit free download
#496 [08:24] <mib_9zbthy> and let it do its thing
#497 [08:24] <tyteen4a03> sec
#498 [08:25] <tyteen4a03> again, x64 or x86?
#499 [08:26] <mib_9zbthy> the java or my computer?
#500 [08:26] <mib_9zbthy> I got a 32bit OS
#501 [08:26] <tyteen4a03> k
#502 [08:26] <tyteen4a03> firstly try
#503 [08:26] <tyteen4a03> http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#504 [08:26] <mib_9zbthy> so someone said I get x84?
#505 [08:26] <tyteen4a03> yes, x86
#506 [08:27] <mib_9zbthy> it said my java was 6
#507 [08:27] <mib_9zbthy> update 25
#508 [08:28] <mib_9zbthy> okay unistalled
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#510 [08:29] <mib_9zbthy> its unistalle
#511 [08:29] <mib_9zbthy> d
#512 [08:30] <mib_9zbthy> do you want me to install again?
#513 [08:31] <tyteen4a03> yes
#514 [08:31] <tyteen4a03> sorry, been missing :P
#515 [08:31] <mib_9zbthy> but it says I'm downloading 6 update 25
#516 [08:31] <mib_9zbthy> and I had that anyways
#517 [08:35] <mib_9zbthy> successfully installed
#518 [08:35] <tyteen4a03> k
#519 [08:35] <tyteen4a03> if that still doesnt work I am out of ideas
#520 [08:36] <mib_9zbthy> so download launcher again?
#521 [08:36] <mib_9zbthy> or do IE
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#523 [08:37] <mib_9zbthy> ????
#524 [08:39] <mib_9zbthy> downloading Packages
#525 [08:39] <mib_9zbthy> thats a good sign
#526 [08:40] <mib_9zbthy> Done loading
#527 [08:40] <mib_9zbthy> this is where is alwayz just goes BLACK
#528 [08:40] <mib_9zbthy> I dont wanna touch it I dont want it to go BLACK :O
#529 [08:41] <mib_9zbthy> I'mma just leave it for a bit
#530 [08:41] <mib_9zbthy> vnfrusdnhiujflsdnvdnsiubngtiuosnbiutndoi v tfrmonq mtb9
#531 [08:41] <mib_9zbthy> it went black -.-
#532 [08:41] <tyteen4a03> mib_9zbthy: sounds like its probably your display card...
#533 [08:41] <tyteen4a03> I really ran out of ideas, sorry :?
#534 [08:41] <tyteen4a03> :/
#535 [08:42] <mib_9zbthy> how do I fix my display card?
#536 [08:42] <mib_9zbthy> I did build this computer
#537 [08:42] <tyteen4a03> update your display card driver I guess... what display card you usin?
#538 [08:43] <mib_9zbthy> Sapphire HD5770 1G GDDR5 Vapor-X 1G 128Bit GDDR5 PCIE 2*DVI HDMI DSP 40nm DX11 Vapor-X
#539 [08:44] <tyteen4a03> is that ATI
#540 [08:45] <mib_9zbthy> its Sapphire
#541 [08:46] <tyteen4a03> no, I mean nvidia core or ati core
#542 [08:46] <tyteen4a03> regardless you should still try updating your driver
#543 [08:46] <mib_9zbthy> ATI
#544 [08:46] <mib_9zbthy> sorry
#545 [08:46] <mib_9zbthy> umm
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#547 [08:47] <mib_9zbthy> I'm not completely sure how to do that
#548 [08:48] <tyteen4a03> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#549 [08:48] <tyteen4a03> I guess :P
#550 [08:49] <mib_9zbthy> LOL that was the exact page I was on
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#554 [08:53] <mib_9zbthy> I have no idea how to fine what product family my graphics card is
#555 [08:54] <tyteen4a03> Radeon 9xxx
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#557 [08:55] <tyteen4a03> np
#558 [08:55] <tyteen4a03> Radeon HD
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#560 [08:55] <tyteen4a03> then select HD 5xxx
#561 [08:55] <Daragon249> O.o
#562 [08:55] <Daragon249> I'm having trouble with my In Browser game
#563 [08:56] <Daragon249> It loads all the way, "Mojang", then goes blank and doesn't respond
#564 [08:56] <Daragon249> This is after I apply a texture pack to my app data
#565 [08:56] <Daragon249> I try to remove it, but it says I 'm using it.
#566 [08:57] <Daragon249> Help O.O
#567 [08:57] <tyteen4a03> try removing everything in .minecraft, make sure you backup your worlds first
#568 [08:57] <tyteen4a03> idk :P
#569 [08:57] <mib_9zbthy> Catalyst Software Suite or ATI Catalyst Application Profiles
#570 [08:57] <Daragon249> I have a backup
#571 [08:58] <Daragon249> Flash drive
#572 [08:58] <Daragon249> XD
#573 [08:58] <Daragon249> BTW, I'm on a school com/network
#574 [08:58] <Daragon249> ;)
#575 [08:58] <tyteen4a03> no cmd?
#576 [08:58] <mib_9zbthy> stop playing games are school noob
#577 [08:58] <Daragon249> Ah crap
#578 [08:59] <Daragon249> It says I can't delete
#579 [08:59] <Daragon249> :|
#580 [08:59] <tyteen4a03> this channel is for help, not for personal opinion towards anybody
#581 [08:59] <mib_9zbthy> okay sorry
#582 [08:59] <Daragon249> Thank you, tyteen
#583 [08:59] <tyteen4a03> hmm
#584 [08:59] <tyteen4a03> not sure
#585 [08:59] <Daragon249> O hwell, I have to go to my next period anyways xD
#586 [08:59] <Daragon249> Math :|
#587 [09:00] <Daragon249> See ya!
#588 [09:00] <tyteen4a03> :P I understand your pain
#589 [09:00] <tyteen4a03> bye
#590 [09:00] <mib_9zbthy> so what one do I get?
#591 [09:00] <mib_9zbthy> Catalyst Software Suite or ATI Catalyst Application Profiles
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#593 [09:01] <mib_9zbthy> tyteen4a03
#594 [09:02] <tyteen4a03> Suite
#595 [09:02] <tyteen4a03> I think
#596 [09:02] <mib_9zbthy> k
#597 [09:03] <SlashLife> Daragon249 has to go through his next period anyway?
#598 [09:03] <mib_9zbthy> hopely this works
#599 [09:03] <mib_9zbthy> what
#600 [09:03] <mib_9zbthy> so?
#601 [09:03] <mib_9zbthy> whats that got to do with ANYTHING
#602 [09:03] <tyteen4a03> ATI Suite or Period joke?
#603 [09:04] <tyteen4a03> ATI suite updates your driver and stuff
#604 [09:04] <tyteen4a03> Period joke... no comment :P
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#606 [09:08] <mib_9zbthy> ohhhhh
#607 [09:08] <mib_9zbthy> :S it doesn't really make sence tho
#608 [09:08] <mib_9zbthy> he didn't say through he said to
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#611 [09:09] <mib_9wumke> Hello, can somebody help me? :)
#612 [09:09] <mib_9zbthy> nope
#613 [09:09] <Moonwolf> wie fragt man nochmal AuBot nach paid?
#614 [09:09] <mib_9zbthy> Yes
#615 [09:10] <Moonwolf> how do you ask Aubot if your acc is paid
#616 [09:10] <tyteen4a03> !Aubot
#617 [09:10] <mib_9zbthy> my account is paid
#618 [09:10] <Moonwolf> !Aubot
#619 [09:10] <tyteen4a03> !Aubot about
#620 [09:10] <tyteen4a03> idk :P
#621 [09:10] <tyteen4a03> ask an op
#622 [09:10] <tyteen4a03> mib_9wumke, yes?
#623 [09:11] <mib_9zbthy> OMG! new DOW OUT!
#624 [09:11] <tyteen4a03> dow?
#625 [09:11] <mib_9wumke> i got a problem on my windows pc with minecraft. When i run it the exe it does not show the dirt background
#626 [09:11] <mib_9wumke> never did
#627 [09:11] <tyteen4a03> dirt background?
#628 [09:12] <tyteen4a03> screenshot please?
#629 [09:12] <mib_9wumke> sec
#630 [09:12] <Moonwolf> !help
#631 [09:12] <tyteen4a03> !reinstall
#632 [09:12] <mib_9wumke> i have explained it in details and screenshots here
#633 [09:12] <tyteen4a03> ah
#634 [09:12] <mib_9wumke> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/black_login_screen_crash-12zwyh
#635 [09:13] <Moonwolf> !paid HadesWalker
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#637 [09:14] <tyteen4a03> mib_9wumke: you tried web launcher?
#638 [09:14] <mib_9wumke> Ye
#639 [09:14] <tyteen4a03> same proble?
#640 [09:15] <mib_9wumke> There the dirt background works, but it freezes at "Loading Done"
#641 [09:15] <tyteen4a03> try unstalling java then install newest java version
#642 [09:15] <tyteen4a03> !uninstall
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#644 [09:15] <tyteen4a03> let me test this bot :P
#645 [09:15] <tyteen4a03> nope not that
#646 [09:15] <tyteen4a03> k
#647 [09:15] <tyteen4a03> http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#648 [09:15] <mib_9wumke> I've tried many times, but i can try again
#649 [09:16] <figaro> back
#650 [09:16] <figaro> just but a blue screen
#651 [09:16] <figaro> :( my nick changed
#652 [09:16] <tyteen4a03> http://www.java.com/en/download
#653 [09:16] <figaro> oi tyteen
#654 [09:16] <mib_9wumke> I know where to find java ;)
#655 [09:16] <tyteen4a03> figaro: who are you?
#656 [09:16] <figaro> I'm that guy
#657 [09:16] <tyteen4a03> do I know you or something :P
#658 [09:16] <tyteen4a03> OH
#659 [09:17] <tyteen4a03> I get it now :P
#660 [09:17] <figaro> the one that told the guy to stop playing games at school
#661 [09:17] <tyteen4a03> ;p
#662 [09:17] <tyteen4a03> ik
#663 [09:17] <figaro> hfdsngjfsngfdsnglfd
#664 [09:17] <figaro> it still black
#665 [09:17] <tyteen4a03> this could be a bug in ATI stuff
#666 [09:17] <mib_9wumke> u want me to uninstall 32 or 64 or both?
#667 [09:18] <tyteen4a03> sec, I found an announcement about ATI drivers
#668 [09:18] <tyteen4a03> okay everybody with ati problems
#669 [09:18] <tyteen4a03> http://www.oldapps.com/ati.php?old_ati_drivers=98
#670 [09:18] <tyteen4a03> try using this driver instead
#671 [09:19] <tyteen4a03> there appears to be some problems with the latest driver
#672 [09:19] <tyteen4a03> uninstall your current driver then install this
#673 [09:19] <figaro> so I have to downgrade my driver to play this game
#674 [09:20] <tyteen4a03> try first
#675 [09:20] <figaro> but I dont wanna downgrade my driverrr
#676 [09:20] <tyteen4a03> idk then :P
#677 [09:21] <figaro> is the game going to update to be about to play on this driver?
#678 [09:21] <figaro> able*
#679 [09:21] <tyteen4a03> not sure
#680 [09:22] <tyteen4a03> Notch never managed to fix these stupid driver problems
#681 [09:22] <figaro> aren't you meant to be one of the people working there?
#682 [09:22] <tyteen4a03> no o.o
#683 [09:22] <tyteen4a03> I am just a volunteer helper here
#684 [09:22] <figaro> then who are u
#685 [09:22] <figaro> :o
#686 [09:22] <tyteen4a03> I mean, he didnt even try, from the look of the intel case
#687 [09:22] <figaro> so you dont get paid
#688 [09:22] <tyteen4a03> of course we dont
#689 [09:22] <NinjaKirby> lol...
#690 [09:23] <figaro> so you sit here everyday helping noobs
#691 [09:23] <figaro> and you get nothing
#692 [09:23] <tyteen4a03> basically, yes
#693 [09:23] <figaro> WTF MAN
#694 [09:23] <figaro> why would you do that
#695 [09:23] <tyteen4a03> yup
#696 [09:23] <tyteen4a03> we have too many free time I guess :P
#697 [09:23] <NinjaKirby> Or we're dealing with a bridge in personality types
#698 [09:24] <tyteen4a03> I could get a job at MC.net maintaining website, but since they are using jsp and my skills are a lot crappier compared to others
#699 [09:24] <tyteen4a03> I would probably break the website first :P
#700 [09:24] <figaro> lol
#701 [09:24] <figaro> I do php or java
#702 [09:25] <tyteen4a03> still trying to learn java
#703 [09:25] <figaro> but recently I've been doing javascript C++ and C# making games
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#705 [09:25] <tyteen4a03> I do PHP and python
#706 [09:25] <mib_9wumke> i installed the older ATI driver and still nothing
#707 [09:25] <figaro> Python's good I make alot of programs with python
#708 [09:25] <tyteen4a03> guess you will need to wait for a later release then...
#709 [09:25] <figaro> good mib_9wumke was my little test
#710 [09:26] <tyteen4a03> orly
#711 [09:26] <figaro> and now I'm not going to downgrade my shit :D
#712 [09:26] <tyteen4a03> Notch will probably never fix these bugs
#713 [09:26] <figaro> fsrbdufbdusia
#714 [09:26] <figaro> but they have tooo
#715 [09:27] <figaro> or I'mma get my money back hmf
#716 [09:27] <tyteen4a03> play classic :)
#717 [09:27] <figaro> hows?
#718 [09:27] <tyteen4a03> personally I am a big classic fan
#719 [09:27] <tyteen4a03> minecraft.net/servers.jsp is for classic multiplayer
#720 [09:27] <tyteen4a03> much more stable
#721 [09:27] <tyteen4a03> and much more custom server dev :P
#722 [09:28] <figaro> meh I'll play later I need play cod
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#724 [09:28] <tyteen4a03> :P
#725 [09:28] <tyteen4a03> bye
#726 [09:28] <figaro> Cya man
#727 [09:29] <mib_9wumke> Anyways, i think im going to drop this for now
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#730 [09:30] <mib_9wumke> thanks for trying tyteen, cya! :)
#731 [09:30] <SeventhSky> hello fellas
#732 [09:30] <SeventhSky> can someone help?
#733 [09:30] <KriLL3> not without being told what the problem is...
#734 [09:30] <KriLL3> we're not psychics
#735 [09:30] <SeventhSky> well , i am trying to start minecraft offline and not up to date
#736 [09:31] <SeventhSky> but i get a java error
#737 [09:31] <tyteen4a03> pastebin tiem
#738 [09:31] <KriLL3> tyteen4a03: bah, much moar fun to paste to IRC...
#739 [09:31] <SeventhSky> one min
#740 [09:31] <tyteen4a03> BUT I DONT WANT HUGE PILE OF JAVA SPAM DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD:
#741 [09:31] <tyteen4a03> BLA BLA BLA [/caps]
#742 [09:32] <KriLL3> tyteen4a03: sucks to be you!
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#744 [09:32] <SeventhSky> Failed to start Minecraft : org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelarated
#745 [09:32] <tyteen4a03> KriLL3: :P
#746 [09:33] <tyteen4a03> SeventhSky: intel display card?
#747 [09:33] <SeventhSky> any idea about this ? :)
#748 [09:33] <SeventhSky> nope
#749 [09:33] <tyteen4a03> what display card then?
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#751 [09:33] <tyteen4a03> A BOT
#752 [09:33] <tyteen4a03> TranslateBot
#753 [09:34] <SeventhSky> ATI Radeon HD 5700
#754 [09:34] <SeventhSky> updated
#755 [09:34] <tyteen4a03> Sapphire HD5770 1G GDDR5 Vapor-X 1G 128Bit GDDR5 PCIE 2*DVI HDMI DSP 40nm DX11 Vapor-X
#756 [09:34] <tyteen4a03> note to self
#757 [09:34] <tyteen4a03> did MC work for you before?
#758 [09:35] <SeventhSky> yes
#759 [09:35] <SeventhSky> but last 4-5 months isn't working
#760 [09:35] <tyteen4a03> could be beta then
#761 [09:35] <tyteen4a03> Notch's fault ;)
#762 [09:35] <SeventhSky> eh
#763 [09:35] <KriLL3> what isn't notch's fault?
#764 [09:36] <SeventhSky> Anyway , i got Windows 7 32 - bit , ATI Radeon HD 5700 , java updated
#765 [09:36] <SeventhSky> all are up to date
#766 [09:36] <SeventhSky> :/
#767 [09:37] <tyteen4a03> I received the same report from another guy with HD 57xx
#768 [09:37] <tyteen4a03> if you want try this driver instead: http://www.oldapps.com/ati.php?old_ati_drivers=98
#769 [09:37] <SeventhSky> so , should i go and cry now? :P I tried with Mozzila Firefox and chrome
#770 [09:38] <SeventhSky> you think that this problem if of newer update of my graphic card?
#771 [09:38] <SeventhSky> strange :P
#772 [09:38] <tyteen4a03> I saw some announcements about it
#773 [09:38] <tyteen4a03> you can ry
#774 [09:38] <tyteen4a03> *try
#775 [09:39] <SeventhSky> ok
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#777 [09:47] <silent> can someone help me when i play minecraft after about a minute of playing it turns off and i get a grey screen then it turns the game off
#778 [09:47] <tyteen4a03> slient: comp spec please?
#779 [09:48] <silent> windows vista 3 gig ram 512 graphics
#780 [09:48] <silent> dual core pro
#781 [09:49] <KriLL3> VRAM is a very pointless number
#782 [09:50] <KriLL3> GPU matters a whole lot more
#783 [09:51] <tyteen4a03> VRAM? I thought they didnt exist :P
#784 [09:51] <KriLL3> video ram
#785 [09:52] <KriLL3> never understood why that's one figure they always put in TV commercials about computers, how much video ram is has...
#786 [09:53] <tyteen4a03> I thought virtual RAM but go on
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#788 [09:57] <SeventhSky> well
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#790 [09:57] <SeventhSky> now it works but my screen is half than it was before lol
#791 [09:58] <SeventhSky> 1920x1080 screen.
#792 [09:58] <SeventhSky> it's full at windows setting ,but i cant see like that...
#793 [09:58] <SeventhSky> around it's just black and in center you can see the other lol
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#795 [10:13] <SlashLife> Radeon HD 6850 w/ 1024 dedicated VRAM and 3 GB HyperMemory =)
#796 [10:13] <SeventhSky> eh?:p
#797 [10:13] <SlashLife> Just wanted to top his VRAM statement. ;)
#798 [10:13] <SlashLife> If you demand a screen shot I'll punch in this configuration just for the lulz of it. =)
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#800 [10:18] <Jochem> Hi
#801 [10:19] <Jochem> Is there anyone that can help me with a redstone circuit problem?
#802 [10:19] <Vhozard> Whats the inverse sinus in matlab?
#803 [10:19] <Vhozard> asind ?
#804 [10:21] <Jochem> Nobody around?
#805 [10:21] <Vhozard> nope
#806 [10:22] <Jochem> aw
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#808 [10:22] <hello> hi o.o
#809 [10:22] <Jochem> hello
#810 [10:22] <Vhozard> hello:
#811 [10:22] <tyteen4a03> hi
#812 [10:22] <hello> I am kind of ehm disapointed D:
#813 [10:22] <tyteen4a03> yes?
#814 [10:22] <Vhozard> I am too
#815 [10:22] <Jochem> that's what she said
#816 [10:23] <Vhozard> life isnt what I expected
#817 [10:23] <Vhozard> :/
#818 [10:23] <hello> i want to buy minecraft D:
#819 [10:23] <Vhozard> so do it
#820 [10:23] <Jochem> lol
#821 [10:24] <SeventhSky> tyteen installed the drivers but now my screen is around black and in center my desktpo
#822 [10:24] <SeventhSky> :/
#823 [10:24] <tyteen4a03> the old 9.9 is still making minecraft black?
#824 [10:24] <Jochem> 7th, did you update your java?
#825 [10:25] <SeventhSky> minecraft working on old drivers
#826 [10:25] <Vhozard> upgrade to 11.5
#827 [10:25] <Vhozard> ...
#828 [10:25] <SeventhSky> but my screen is fcked up
#829 [10:25] <hello> i first was disapointed that there werent other payment methods than paypal and credit card D: now i registered at paypal and chanrged money on it D: now i see other payment methods but no matter which of the methods i click i always land on the moneybookers site D: so i cant use my paypal account to pay it since it links me to moneybookers instead D:
#830 [10:25] <Vhozard> stop those smileys please
#831 [10:25] <Vhozard> you look bi-polar
#832 [10:25] <Jochem> just polar lol
#833 [10:26] <SeventhSky> vhozard is that version working for minecraft?
#834 [10:26] <SeventhSky> i got Radeon HD 5700 series
#835 [10:26] <tyteen4a03> 9.9 is what I heard from Quatroking
#836 [10:26] <Vhozard> no
#837 [10:26] <Vhozard> just get the latest 11.5
#838 [10:27] <Vhozard> or rather the 11.5a
#839 [10:27] <hello> why cant i use paypal to pay for minecraft now ... why i have to use moneybookers ...
#840 [10:27] <Vhozard> everyone uses paypal
#841 [10:27] <Vhozard> it works
#842 [10:27] <Jochem> are you on minecraft.net?
#843 [10:27] <hello> yes it worked until yesterday...
#844 [10:27] <hello> wh
#845 [10:27] <SeventhSky> hm okay
#846 [10:27] <hello> when i didnt had money
#847 [10:27] <hello> but now there are other payment ptions and no matter which one i choose i land on moneybookers
#848 [10:28] <hello> options
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#850 [10:28] <hello> anyone has a suggestion please ?
#851 [10:29] <hello> or could you check please on which site you land if you choose paypal?
#852 [10:29] <tyteen4a03> paypal redirects you to moneybookers?
#853 [10:29] <hello> yes
#854 [10:29] <Jochem> it should land on a redirect page with a paypal transfer part in it
#855 [10:30] <tyteen4a03> hello: you sure you clicked the paypal button?
#856 [10:30] <tyteen4a03> it is at the left of the paypal icon
#857 [10:30] <tyteen4a03> third row, section column
#858 [10:30] <hello> yes i also tried clicking other no matter which icon i click i land on moneybookers
#859 [10:31] <hello> left you say? dont you mean right?
#860 [10:31] <hello> the icon is showed on the right side to me o.o
#861 [10:31] <tyteen4a03> um
#862 [10:31] <tyteen4a03> button ICON button ICON
#863 [10:31] <tyteen4a03> I mean
#864 [10:31] <tyteen4a03> button MONEYBOOK button PAYPAL
#865 [10:31] <tyteen4a03> choose button PAYPAL
#866 [10:32] <hello> i dont see buttons i only see icons o.o and they are a bit messy o.o
#867 [10:32] <Jochem> wht browser are u using
#868 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> use google chome
#869 [10:33] <hello> firefox
#870 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> *chrome
#871 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> or IE
#872 [10:33] <hello> hmm let me try o.o
#873 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> try other browsers first
#874 [10:34] <hello> hmmm if i use IE i also land on moneybookers...
#875 [10:35] <tyteen4a03> hello: are you sure you are click on the paypal icon?
#876 [10:35] <tyteen4a03> *clicking
#877 [10:35] <hello> yes i am sure
#878 [10:35] <hello> i also tired clicking on other icons
#879 [10:35] <hello> tried
#880 [10:36] <hello> but if i just click on them nothing happens i need to click on the proceed to check out button also
#881 [10:37] <tyteen4a03> try google chrome
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#883 [10:37] <Jochem> i can try to help you using teamviewer?
#884 [10:37] <tyteen4a03> or me :P
#885 [10:37] <tyteen4a03> because if every button redirects to moneybooker your browser is f'ed up
#886 [10:37] <hello> ehm ok o.o
#887 [10:37] <hello> oh you think thats it?
#888 [10:38] <Jochem> yes
#889 [10:38] <hello> then i will try to clean my registry this wouldnt take long
#890 [10:38] <hello> one second i try
#891 [10:38] <Jochem> wait ill send you a pm
#892 [10:39] <ckemania> hi, Im having trouble to play minecraft... when I open the game and connect to my account, after the "Mojang" opening screen, the game just crashes and quits.... does anybody know what might be the problem?
#893 [10:39] <Jochem> @ckemania, are you using mods?
#894 [10:39] <ckemania> just skins
#895 [10:40] <ckemania> like shaders4kids
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#902 [10:41] <Jochem_> yes?
#903 [10:44] <hello> jochem o.o?
#904 [10:45] <Jochem> ya
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#914 [11:11] <NinjaKirby> Noobish question, are all SMP Servers inherently Private? There isn't a compilation page like the Classic Servers? (Which presumably carry the "Public=whatever" command in .properties)
#915 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> There is no master list of SMP servers
#916 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#917 [11:11] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#918 [11:11] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#919 [11:11] <NinjaKirby> Ah, enlightening, thanks :)
#920 [11:12] <Jochem> Can someone help me with redstone?
#921 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
#922 [11:13] <Jochem> It's kinda hard to explain
#923 [11:13] <Jochem> but i've got a structure in which i want something to turn on/off
#924 [11:14] <Jochem> which i put a torch underneath
#925 [11:15] <Jochem> but the problem is, the torch underneath seems to be on forever, i cant seem to turn it off
#926 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me a screenshot?
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#928 [11:16] <Jochem> sure
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#930 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Host it at imgur.com
#931 [11:19] <Jochem> ok
#932 [11:20] <Jochem> http://i.imgur.com/5bvtA.png
#933 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> Okay..
#934 [11:21] <Jochem> so i want to power the rail above
#935 [11:21] <Jochem> but it should be able to turn off too
#936 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> If you want to control that torch, you'll need to either place another torch below that block, or you need to attach that torch to the side of a block
#937 [11:22] <Jochem> and if i attach it to a block, will it still 'lighten' the block above?
#938 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#939 [11:22] <Jochem> allright lemme try
#940 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> Then all you gotta do is run a signal wire to the block with the torch attached
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#942 [11:26] <Jochem> allright i got another question
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#944 [11:26] <John4782> Hey
#945 [11:26] <Jochem> so i made a pulser, but i want to slow the pulse down
#946 [11:27] <John4782> Can somebody help me?
#947 [11:27] <Jochem> like it pulses on 15 sec, then off 15 sec
#948 [11:27] <John4782> Can you hear me?
#949 [11:27] <Jochem> John, tell us.
#950 [11:27] <John4782> I cant upload a Skin :(
#951 [11:27] <John4782> Something seems to have gone wrong. We'll have a tinker with it momentarily, please check back again later.
#952 [11:27] <John4782> :/
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#954 [11:29] <John4782> Can nobody help me? :(
#955 [11:29] <Jochem> Server might be busy?
#956 [11:29] <John4782> Hm
#957 [11:29] <John4782> There was an error while saving the skin. java.io.IOException: Posted content type isn't multipart/form-data
#958 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, looks like skin uploading is kapoof for now
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#961 [11:30] <John4782> Poor :( Just bought the game
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#963 [11:30] <Jochem> or you are uploading something with the wrond extension/file size
#964 [11:30] <John4782> Can you call Notch ? xD
#965 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Heh, no
#966 [11:31] <John4782> I have tryed to upload the char
#967 [11:31] <John4782> Same thing
#968 [11:32] <John4782> Huh
#969 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> Jochem - Do you know how to make a bigger pulsar?
#970 [11:33] <Jochem> like the 5clock?
#971 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> Even bigger than that, I'm talking about the old style pulsars
#972 [11:33] <John4782> So, nobody know how I can get a Skin
#973 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> John4782 - It's broken right now, give Mojang some time to fix it
#974 [11:33] <Jochem> like a 13clock? :P
#975 [11:33] <John4782> kk
#976 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> Jochem - You could make a 13-clock, sure
#977 [11:34] <Jochem> and than it'll slow down the time between every pulse?
#978 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> Slow down?
#979 [11:35] <Jochem> i just made a series of repeaters after the pulser, but it gives a random buggy signal
#980 [11:35] <Jochem> *slow down = increase lol
#981 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Alright, um
#982 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Head to this server
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#984 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> 72.9.146.82:25587
#985 [11:37] <Jochem> okay.
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#988 [11:38] <Jochem> no one there?
#989 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> erm
#990 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> 72.9.146.82:25587?
#991 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you've got the right port
#992 [11:39] <Jochem> Connection to irc://72.9.146.82:25587/ (irc://72.9.146.82:25587/) reset. [Help] Reconnecting in 15 seconds. [Cancel]
#993 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> No, I mean, use that ip address for your minecraft client
#994 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> It's an MC server I have set up to help in this channel.
#995 [11:40] <Jochem> oh okay :P
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#997 [11:40] <Schnilchmitte> hello i need some help with my account
#998 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help?
#999 [11:41] <Schnilchmitte> i registered with an email adress, which i lost
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#1001 [11:41] <Schnilchmitte> i already emailed notch, but i fear he hasn't enough time to deal with such issues
#1002 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Have you emailed support@mojang.com?
#1003 [11:42] <Schnilchmitte> not yet, i didn't find any email address except the one of notch :)
#1004 [11:42] <Schnilchmitte> but i will send one there as well, thx
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#1006 [11:50] <_303> hmm http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1007 [11:51] <_303> new automated support for accounts according to the mojang.com blog
#1008 [11:51] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Yeah
#1009 [11:52] <xales> Oh
#1010 [11:52] <xales> That went live?
#1011 [11:52] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Mm
#1012 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> \o/
#1013 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> Sad that Tino didn't include our FAQs
#1014 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> Wonder what happened there.
#1015 [11:54] <xales> GreyVulpine: Might be in-progress and thye just put that version up for now
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#1017 [11:54] * GreyVulpine nodnods
#1017 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Heh, didn't change much from the version that he gave us at the start, except to include our channel.
#1018 [11:55] <mib_7353wt> i can't install it if i press run it does nothing
#1019 [11:55] <xales> Do you have Java installed?
#1020 [11:55] <mib_7353wt> il try
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#1024 [12:01] <mr_boo> i can't install the game when i press run it doesn't do anything and i have java installed
#1025 [12:02] <xales> Can you play it in the browser?
#1026 [12:02] <mr_boo> no
#1027 [12:02] <xales> What browser?
#1028 [12:02] <mr_boo> google chrome
#1029 [12:02] <Kaito> Okay, so my friend wants to play minecraft. She has Windows XP, 2 gigs of ram, and an integrated GPU. She's getting a "Bad Video Card Driver" error, so I googled that, and tried getting her updated drivers. The drivers say she does'nt have the right requirements. Is there any other way to fix that error?
#1030 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> Kaito: Intel?
#1031 [12:03] <xales> Kaito: Wrong driver, then.
#1032 [12:03] <Kaito> tyteen: yes, Intel
#1033 [12:03] <Kaito> Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
#1034 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> Kaito: if you are running intel then no, she cant play minecraft via standalone\
#1035 [12:03] <xales> That..should work
#1036 [12:03] <xales> well, it might
#1037 [12:03] <Kaito> what do you mean "via standalone"?
#1038 [12:03] <xales> get the correct driver for it, if it still doesn't work, then there's no way it will
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#1040 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> standalone downloadable launcher
#1041 [12:03] <Kaito> oh
#1042 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> xales: nope, sorry
#1043 [12:03] <xales> mr_boo: What happens when you try to play in the browser?
#1044 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> no, this bug has been here since alpha and notch never fixed it
#1045 [12:04] <xales> tyteen4a03: Works for mew ith a 950 :)
#1046 [12:04] <xales> me*
#1047 [12:04] <Kaito> that...REALLY sucks
#1048 [12:04] <Kaito> she's been wanting to play minecraft for over a year...
#1049 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> but online stil works
#1050 [12:04] <xales> and it's not really a bug..
#1051 [12:04] <Kaito> thats creative :P
#1052 [12:04] <xales> Kaito: You can "play" in the browser
#1053 [12:04] <Kaito> right
#1054 [12:04] <xales> but it will lag horribly
#1055 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> just not standalone
#1056 [12:04] <xales> and no, you can play Beta in the browser
#1057 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> what I meant is intel users cant play via standalone launcher xD
#1058 [12:05] <xales> I can just fine
#1059 [12:05] <xales> just not on Windows
#1060 [12:05] <xales> ._.
#1061 [12:05] <Kaito> oh
#1062 [12:05] <Kaito> :/
#1063 [12:05] <SeventhSky> tyteen4a.03 ?
#1064 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> but anyways, online still works
#1065 [12:05] <xales> and I'm not even joking about that. It runs perfectly fine standalone on both OS X and Linux :|
#1066 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> SeventhSky: ?
#1067 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> and doesn't work on Windows
#1068 [12:05] <xales> pretty much
#1069 [12:06] <SeventhSky> i updated to 11.5 ( latest graphic drivers ) still playing but i got a big problem
#1070 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> derp, that bothered me for 6 months
#1071 [12:06] <Kaito> well...thank you for helping me
#1072 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> when minecraft.net was unstable
#1073 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> yes?
#1074 [12:06] <Kaito> i'll give her the bad news
#1075 [12:06] <Kaito> :(
#1076 [12:06] <SeventhSky> around my screen is black and i can see in center
#1077 [12:06] <SeventhSky> the whole desktop - start and others
#1078 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> o.o
#1079 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> have you tried auto adjust on your monitor?
#1080 [12:06] <SeventhSky> it's like it got shrinked lol
#1081 [12:07] <SeventhSky> yeah
#1082 [12:07] <xales> Hmm
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#1084 [12:07] <xales> \o/
#1085 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> you might want to check monitor solutions
#1086 [12:07] <SeventhSky> Computer Screen with HDMI
#1087 [12:07] <SeventhSky> full HD
#1088 [12:08] <SeventhSky> i dont use old ports , but HDMI :P
#1089 [12:08] <xales> Can your graphics card handle accelerated video on that? :P
#1090 [12:08] <SeventhSky> oh yeah!
#1091 [12:08] <SeventhSky> but , now it's f*cked up :<
#1092 [12:08] <xales> Windows?
#1093 [12:09] <SeventhSky> Windows 7
#1094 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> updating to latest driver makes it shrink... first time I hear about that o.o
#1095 [12:09] <SeventhSky> me 2
#1096 [12:09] <xales> Are you using multiple monitors/display devices?
#1097 [12:09] <SeventhSky> nope , just one
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#1100 [12:09] <SeventhSky> 23" inches
#1101 [12:09] <SeventhSky> :D
#1102 [12:09] <xales> ??> SeventhSky win/dxdiag
#1103 [12:09] <VoxelHead> SeventhSky: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1104 [12:09] <VoxelHead> SeventhSky: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1105 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> mark as private for extra security that nobody cares :P
#1106 [12:11] <SeventhSky> check pm
#1107 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> received
#1108 [12:12] <SeventhSky> so?
#1109 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> I only see empty lines
#1110 [12:12] <SeventhSky> lol
#1111 [12:12] <SeventhSky> i can see it ok
#1112 [12:13] <SeventhSky> i try again w8
#1113 [12:13] <SeventhSky> too large
#1114 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> pastebin.com
#1115 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> not mibpaste
#1116 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> sucks
#1117 [12:14] <SeventhSky> http://pastebin.com/DYNUELpv
#1118 [12:14] <SeventhSky> now?
#1119 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> k
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#1123 [12:18] <SeventhSky> any solution?
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#1125 [12:18] <xales> SeventhSky: Does the same issue happen with a different monitor (if you can check)
#1126 [12:18] <Luridity> Was wondering if I could save a chunk of a 24/7 server's map and send it to myself as a backup of whatever I'm making?
#1127 [12:19] <xales> Luridity: Not easily. It's pretty much all or nothing
#1128 [12:19] <Luridity> x_X
#1129 [12:19] <Luridity> k
#1130 [12:19] <SeventhSky> nah , my old monitor is packed and stored :<
#1131 [12:19] <Luridity> xales: What if it was necessary?
#1132 [12:19] <Luridity> how would I go about cutting out a piece of a map
#1133 [12:19] <xales> Luridity: You can't, really
#1134 [12:19] <xales> Entire map or no map
#1135 [12:19] <Luridity> hmm
#1136 [12:20] <Luridity> well obviously I can't
#1137 [12:20] <Luridity> lol
#1138 [12:20] <xales> SeventhSky: Try turning down the resolution
#1139 [12:20] <xales> :|
#1140 [12:20] <Luridity> the entire map is huge
#1141 [12:20] <Luridity> <_<
#1142 [12:20] <Luridity> lol
#1143 [12:20] <xolotl> I thought someone had packaged a tool which would read-and-save portions of an SMP world
#1144 [12:20] <Luridity> it IS a 24/7 map
#1145 [12:20] <xales> Luridity: Compress it?
#1146 [12:20] <Luridity> but i wouldn't be able to use it
#1147 [12:20] <Luridity> once compressed
#1148 [12:20] <Luridity> <_<
#1149 [12:20] <Luridity> xolotl: Do you remember the name?
#1150 [12:20] <xales> Well, don't compress it in-place of course
#1151 [12:20] <xolotl> It's not technically hard to do actually; the protocol's quite simple
#1152 [12:20] <xales> bzip2 it into /tmp or something, download it
#1153 [12:21] <xolotl> Luridity: Not off the top of my head; check the forum topics for a few of the map viewers/editors, I seem to think it was linked to from one of them
#1154 [12:21] <xolotl> Luridity: Do you have access to the actual server data files?
#1155 [12:22] <Luridity> xolotl: I could probably get access.
#1156 [12:22] <xolotl> (would be easier in that case; you'd just "save-off", run a util to extract whatever chunks you want, then "save-on")
#1157 [12:22] <SeventhSky> resolution at 800 x 600 xD now it fine loolol
#1158 [12:22] <SeventhSky> but too biiggg
#1159 [12:22] <SeventhSky> xD
#1160 [12:23] <Luridity> Hmm
#1161 [12:23] <Luridity> I've never done anything like this before
#1162 [12:23] <Luridity> I'll look into it.
#1163 [12:23] <SeventhSky> any change that i do over 800x600 is not full screen.
#1164 [12:23] <xolotl> Luridity: Of course in that case, if you wanted to avoid having to copy the entire world dir, you'd have to have a util to do it, and I'm not aware of anything prebuilt to do so)
#1165 [12:23] <xolotl> errant close-paren there.
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#1168 [12:24] <SeventhSky> xales?
#1169 [12:24] <xales> Hi
#1170 [12:24] <SeventhSky> read what i said before
#1171 [12:25] <Luridity> thanks for the help both of you
#1172 [12:25] <Luridity> I'll do a little digging through the forums
#1173 [12:25] <Luridity> maybe I'll find that util or something close
#1174 [12:26] <xales> SeventhSky: It sounds like a bug or something, then... you can report it on http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#1175 [12:27] <SeventhSky> i mean , after graphic card update i got this problem
#1176 [12:27] <SeventhSky> :s
#1177 [12:28] <SeventhSky> but if i didnt do that update , minecraft wouldn't work
#1178 [12:29] <xolotl> Luridity: Ah, the stuff I was thinking about doesn't look to be compatible with 1.5 anyway
#1179 [12:29] <Luridity> Q_Q
#1180 [12:29] <xolotl> Turns out it was a mod, too, which is less than nice: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/258817-14-01-world-recorder-smp-new/
#1181 [12:29] <Luridity> don't say that
#1182 [12:29] * Luridity dies
#1182 [12:29] <Luridity> lol
#1183 [12:30] <xolotl> The other thing I was thinking of turned out to be a bit from MineViewer, but I'd guess that that's not compatible with current releases either: http://xiatek.org/?p=201
#1184 [12:30] <xales> I think you really are better off just compressing the map
#1185 [12:32] <xolotl> also
#1186 [12:32] * xolotl shakes a fist at whoever registered "xolotl" at Curse before he did
#1186 [12:36] <SeventhSky> i dont remember which drivers i had last time
#1187 [12:36] <SeventhSky> lol
#1188 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> "The skin upload didn't like the upgraded version of one of the libs. Will correct this, but first eat some food. TTYL."
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#1191 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1192 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> Notch - "And because PC Gamer made such a big deal of the sky dimension, I guess I'll have to finish it. Consider it confirmed."
#1193 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/71249283520802817
#1194 [12:49] <Boreeas> What "sky dimensions"?
#1195 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> http://imgur.com/a/cvsYW
#1196 [12:50] <Boreeas> Oh, people want to work over the Height limit?
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#1198 [12:50] <Vhozard> thats the dimensions of the sky
#1199 [12:50] <Vhozard> duh
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#1201 [12:54] <chasbrown> lol
#1202 [12:54] <chasbrown> i want more water stuff
#1203 [12:55] <chasbrown> squids...
#1204 [12:55] <chasbrown> its just squids
#1205 [12:55] <chasbrown> we should have a whale and u can make stuff with whale parts
#1206 [12:55] <chasbrown> an endangered whale
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#1212 [13:05] <curmet> Someone who can help me?
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#1214 [13:05] <canberjk> hi
#1215 [13:05] <curmet> hello
#1216 [13:06] <canberjk> how can i fix this
#1217 [13:06] <canberjk> Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit.
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#1219 [13:08] <canberjk> how can i fix Make Minecraft.jar executable (right click>properties>Permissions or use terminal) then in the same directory as the download: java -jar Minecraft.jar
#1220 [13:08] <canberjk> ups sorry
#1221 [13:08] <canberjk> Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit. error
#1222 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Do you have minecraft.jar in the directory where you're attempting to launch it?
#1223 [13:09] <canberjk> im trying to start in desktop launcer
#1224 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
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#1226 [13:11] <Taxus> Someone who can help me with a transfer mistake?
#1227 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> Taxus: yes?
#1228 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> what problems are you having?
#1229 [13:11] <Taxus> I forgot to fill in message to recipient and it never made through even to my money went off :S
#1230 [13:12] <AG_Scott> Taxus, this isn't #paypal.
#1231 [13:13] <Taxus> adn your point is? /wuite noob at this
#1232 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> Unless you are talking about gifting or buying Minecraft
#1233 [13:13] <Taxus> buying
#1234 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> So your have transferred the money to nowhere?
#1235 [13:13] <Taxus> quite*
#1236 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> *you
#1237 [13:14] <Taxus> I filled in everything except message to recipient
#1238 [13:14] <AG_Scott> You sent money instead of paying via the link?
#1239 [13:14] <tyteen4a03> that would not work my dear
#1240 [13:14] <tyteen4a03> better cancel the transfer
#1241 [13:14] <Taxus> It sent me to Swedbank, which is my bank
#1242 [13:15] <Taxus> and i filled in everything there
#1243 [13:15] <Taxus> dont think i can cancel it.....
#1244 [13:15] <AG_Scott> Umm yeah, you have to pay using Paypal.
#1245 [13:15] <Taxus> Actually mastercard is an alternative pay menthod
#1246 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> did you use the official buying form?
#1247 [13:16] <chasbrown> oh that si because you are running it
#1248 [13:16] <chasbrown> without jar
#1249 [13:16] <chasbrown> you hve to do java -jar
#1250 [13:16] <chasbrown> that is why it cant find the main class
#1251 [13:16] <Taxus> i think it was the official one
#1252 [13:16] <chasbrown> bah he left, i am always late
#1253 [13:16] <Taxus> Here is what i did:
#1254 [13:17] <Taxus> Chose buy now!
#1255 [13:17] <Taxus> Mastercard
#1256 [13:17] <Taxus> proceed to checkout
#1257 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> it should automaclly mark your username downb
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#1259 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> if you use the official pay page
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#1261 [13:18] <Taxus> it sends me to mooneybookers and give me the information i need to fill in
#1262 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> so no worries, if you are still worried send an email to Notch stating your transcation ID and stuff
#1263 [13:18] <kevin_309> how do i solve "could nog create java virtual machine"problem???
#1264 [13:18] <Taxus> Notch is?
#1265 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> kevin_309: computer spec please?
#1266 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> Notch = Creator of Minecraft
#1267 [13:18] <kevin_309> windows xp
#1268 [13:18] <Taxus> Alright
#1269 [13:18] <kevin_309> 3,4 ghz 3 gb ram 320 hd
#1270 [13:19] <kevin_309> java updated
#1271 [13:19] <tyteen4a03> how much ram are used when idle?
#1272 [13:19] <kevin_309> idle?
#1273 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> doing nothing
#1274 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> or just running usual programs you use
#1275 [13:20] <kevin_309> i now use 823/3310 mb
#1276 [13:20] <kevin_309> not even 1/3
#1277 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> are you using standalone or web launcher?
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#1280 [13:21] <kevin_309> what do you mean?
#1281 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> standalone = Minecraft.exe
#1282 [13:21] <kevin_309> yeah
#1283 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> web = minecraft.net/game
#1284 [13:21] <kevin_309> standalone
#1285 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> k, sec
#1286 [13:21] <kevin_309> web launcher is fine
#1287 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> do you know how to make a bat file?
#1288 [13:23] <kevin_309> yeah
#1289 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> try this one
#1290 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> java -Xms650m -jar "Minecraft.exe"
#1291 [13:23] <kevin_309> ok
#1292 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> this will allocate more memory for Minecraft
#1293 [13:23] <kevin_309> and
#1294 [13:23] <kevin_309> uhm
#1295 [13:23] <kevin_309> i play free now
#1296 [13:23] <Vhozard> 650 MB to be precise
#1297 [13:23] <kevin_309> but i will buy in a few days
#1298 [13:24] <kevin_309> then i will update
#1299 [13:24] <kevin_309> does bat file still work?
#1300 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> wait
#1301 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> please give me your minecraft username
#1302 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> NOT password, just username
#1303 [13:24] <kevin_309> kevin_309
#1304 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> !paid kevin_309
#1305 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> sorry but the standalone launcher will not work for you until you buy minecraft
#1306 [13:25] <Vhozard> !paid Vhozard
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#1308 [13:25] <Vhozard> lol fail
#1309 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> !paid Notch
#1310 [13:25] * AuBot kicked tyteen4a03 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#1311 [13:25] <kevin_309> wait
#1312 [13:25] * tyteen4a03 [tyteen4a03@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1313 [13:25] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :ROFL
#1314 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> :P
#1315 [13:25] <Phobia> hi please any technic admin?
#1316 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> Phobia: Yes?
#1317 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> I mean, there are many types of helpers and stuff
#1318 [13:25] <kevin_309> minecraft works fine now
#1319 [13:26] <kevin_309> offline!
#1320 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> kevin_309: I am confused about your situation
#1321 [13:26] <Vhozard> !paid aubot
#1322 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> are you playing through Minecraft.exe?
#1323 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> !paid jeb
#1324 [13:26] <kevin_309> yes
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#1326 [13:26] <Vhozard> !paid minecraft
#1327 [13:26] <Vhozard> oh
#1328 [13:26] <Vhozard> i broke it
#1329 [13:26] <NotiCon> ._.
#1330 [13:26] <Phobia> I want to buy minecraft to nick phobia but somebody have it, is any oportunity how to have this nic?
#1331 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> !help
#1332 [13:26] <NotiCon> stop abusing aubot
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#1334 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> Phobia, I am afraid not
#1335 [13:27] <kevin_309> im playing minecraft .exe version 1.015
#1336 [13:27] <kevin_309> when i buy
#1337 [13:27] <Phobia> :-( bad for me
#1338 [13:27] <kevin_309> i ll update
#1339 [13:27] <feldjaeger666> hey all
#1340 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> and you can play offline with your account?
#1341 [13:27] <kevin_309> does bat still work?
#1342 [13:27] <kevin_309> yes i can
#1343 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> kevin_309, where did you get this Minecraft.exe?
#1344 [13:28] <kevin_309> cant remember
#1345 [13:28] <kevin_309> gues minecraft ,net
#1346 [13:28] <Phobia> tyteen4a03 im using this nick everywhere and i dont want leave it :-(
#1347 [13:28] <Phobia> tyteen4a03 theres no way?
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#1349 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> Phobia: sorry, no
#1350 [13:28] <Chaotix> um
#1351 [13:28] <Vhozard> dont chose a dumb nick then
#1352 [13:28] <Chaotix> i cant update my minecraft
#1353 [13:28] <Vhozard> <-- original
#1354 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> time to choose a better nick
#1355 [13:29] <Vhozard> Phobia, not
#1356 [13:29] <Chaotix> everytime i try to update it
#1357 [13:29] <Chaotix> it says FAILED TO LAUNCH
#1358 [13:29] <Chaotix> why?
#1359 [13:29] <Phobia> tyteen4a03 i must choose for example Phobia_CZE or anything else :-(
#1360 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> more info please?
#1361 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> yes
#1362 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> sadly
#1363 [13:29] <SeventhSky> here , still my resolution is fcked up :(
#1364 [13:29] <Phobia> ok thx bb :-(
#1365 [13:29] <Chaotix> Does anyone know what would cause that to happen?
#1366 [13:29] <rikister> Hi! My minecraft guy is lagging :( When i move to some direction, minecraft lags and i move 5-10 seconds to the direction where i was going, and i cant do anything when its moving :( Can someone help me?
#1367 [13:30] <Vhozard> a computer, probably
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#1369 [13:30] <kevin_309> does my bat launcher still work after updating ???
#1370 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> kevin_309: yes, the bat will work
#1371 [13:30] <feldjaeger666> well could someone help me?
#1372 [13:30] <kevin_309> ok thnx
#1373 [13:30] <kevin_309> bye
#1374 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> feld, yes?
#1375 [13:30] <Chaotix> Can anyone help me o rno
#1376 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> Chaotix: we need more information
#1377 [13:30] <Chaotix> like what
#1378 [13:30] * lilomar [lilomar@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1379 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> e.g OS, java version, what are you doing when you are launcher Minecraft, standalone or web
#1380 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> RAM
#1381 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> display card
#1382 [13:31] <vcordie> Why don't we just say FUCK IT and ask for a dxdiag?
#1383 [13:31] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :?? win/dxdiag
#1384 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> vcordie: cant bother pastebining everything I guess :P
#1385 [13:31] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1386 [13:31] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1387 [13:31] <rikister> Hey can you help me? :)
#1388 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> rikister: the lag problem?
#1389 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> ?
#1390 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> ??
#1391 [13:31] <rikister> yeah
#1392 [13:32] <rikister> :(
#1393 [13:32] <SeventhSky> omg
#1394 [13:32] <rikister> Yesterday it worked fine.
#1395 [13:32] <SeventhSky> fcking ATI , newer updates doesnt support 1920 x 1080
#1396 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> rikister: do you see the dxdiag instructions above?
#1397 [13:32] <SeventhSky> -.-
#1398 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> SeventhSky: sad
#1399 [13:32] <rikister> yup
#1400 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> can you do that for us
#1401 [13:32] <SeventhSky> i can't love my HD?
#1402 [13:32] <SeventhSky> :(
#1403 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> :P
#1404 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> try a lower resolution for now or rage at ATI
#1405 [13:33] <SeventhSky> now full resolution
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#1407 [13:33] <SeventhSky> with that setting
#1408 [13:33] <SeventhSky> on ATI catalyst to 1680 x 1050
#1409 [13:33] <SeventhSky> :/
#1410 [13:33] <SeventhSky> i want HD 108000
#1411 [13:33] <SeventhSky> 1080* :P
#1412 [13:33] <Ryuzaki> and hello again
#1413 [13:33] <tyteen4a03> :P
#1414 [13:33] <tyteen4a03> hi
#1415 [13:34] <Ryuzaki> is there a way to pay with a normal money transfer?
#1416 [13:34] <Vhozard> yes
#1417 [13:34] <Vhozard> get paypal
#1418 [13:34] <vcordie> Yeah, everything was working fine, now a few days ago suddenly BAM lag lag lag. Also, I notice when I'm doing a thing in minecraft that takes a bit of work (blowing up a bunch of tnt, updating a bunch of chunks, even generating land rapidly), my wireless suddenly shuts off and cannot get a connection
#1419 [13:34] <Ryuzaki> -.-
#1420 [13:34] <Vhozard> and hook it up to your normal bank
#1421 [13:34] <Vhozard> I can use paypal to pay directly from my bank account
#1422 [13:35] <SeventhSky> any idea , how i can contact ATI and rage them?
#1423 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> SeventhSky: amd.com
#1424 [13:35] <Vhozard> SeventhSky: buy nvidia
#1425 [13:35] <SeventhSky> i didnt buy for free 150 euro for HD graphic card
#1426 [13:35] <Ryuzaki> it's rediculus that i need to make a Paypal Account just for MC
#1427 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> Ryuzaki: paypal is useful in many ways
#1428 [13:36] <SeventhSky> dont be lazy!
#1429 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> but if you dont want to bother moneybooks might be a solution
#1430 [13:36] <vcordie> Ryuzaki: no you dont
#1431 [13:36] <vcordie> You dont need to make a paypal account
#1432 [13:36] <SeventhSky> Actually , with a prepaid card ( not visa , there are some hackers )
#1433 [13:36] <Vhozard> SeventhSky: which card you got?
#1434 [13:36] <SeventhSky> it's safest way to do trades
#1435 [13:36] <vcordie> You can just enter your card details on the site to pay for it, no account needed.
#1436 [13:36] <vcordie> at least, thats what I did.
#1437 [13:36] <SeventhSky> ATI Radeon HD 5700 series
#1438 [13:37] <vcordie> dont ercall how to get to that screen
#1439 [13:37] <Ryuzaki> it would be a great idea to pay with pay-safe cards
#1440 [13:37] <Vhozard> SeventhSky: I asked which card, not which series its in :/
#1441 [13:37] <SeventhSky> Radeon then ?
#1442 [13:37] <Vhozard> thats it
#1443 [13:37] <SeventhSky> or Paypal ?
#1444 [13:37] <SeventhSky> xd
#1445 [13:38] <Vhozard> call AMD and say you dont like their radeon
#1446 [13:38] <Vhozard> good luck :)
#1447 [13:38] <rikister> tyteen4a03: here http://pastebin.com/4Bxfnp7Y
#1448 [13:38] <vcordie> The only time I have an issue with buying a game is if I can ONLY buy it form steam. I refuse to use steam
#1449 [13:38] <SeventhSky> now i realised that ATI is AMD
#1450 [13:38] <Ryuzaki> ...
#1451 [13:38] <SeventhSky> hahahaha for fck shake!!!
#1452 [13:38] <vcordie> so I'm never buying terraria.
#1453 [13:38] <Vhozard> vcordie: there a great channel for that, #care
#1454 [13:39] <vcordie> It was relevant to the conversation.
#1455 [13:39] <SeventhSky> http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst115ReleaseNotes.aspx
#1456 [13:39] <SeventhSky> got at the end of the page
#1457 [13:39] <SeventhSky> which option i should use?
#1458 [13:39] <rikister> Hey can someone help?
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#1460 [13:39] <Hatrix> Hey
#1461 [13:39] <Vhozard> SeventhSky: the first one
#1462 [13:39] <Vhozard> o/ i have no idea :)
#1463 [13:39] <Hatrix> I've a huge problem with minecraft
#1464 [13:40] <Vhozard> vcordie: just kidding :{
#1465 [13:40] <Hatrix> Nothing on internet about my problem
#1466 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> ?? ask
#1467 [13:40] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#1468 [13:40] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1469 [13:40] <vcordie> just ask, damn it.
#1470 [13:40] <Hatrix> During playing, I've a blackscreen
#1471 [13:40] <Hatrix> Not just Minecraft
#1472 [13:40] <Hatrix> The pc
#1473 [13:40] <Hatrix> and i've to reboot
#1474 [13:40] <Hatrix> Everything is updated
#1475 [13:40] <Hatrix> Graphic card, etc...
#1476 [13:41] <Vhozard> open freenode
#1477 [13:41] <Vhozard> go to #hardware
#1478 [13:41] <SeventhSky> dont spam :P :P
#1479 [13:41] <Vhozard> :)
#1480 [13:41] <Hatrix> I'm already on freenode :)
#1481 [13:41] <rikister> Hi! My minecraft guy is lagging When i move to some direction, minecraft lags and i move 5-10 seconds to the direction where i was going, and i cant do anything when its moving Can someone help me?
#1482 [13:41] <vcordie> sounds like either your graphics card is literally crashing and burning or your monitor is screwing up (check for bent pins).
#1483 [13:41] <rikister> here is dxdiag: http://pastebin.com/4Bxfnp7Y
#1484 [13:41] <rikister> Ok could now someone help?
#1485 [13:41] <rikister> :)
#1486 [13:42] <Hatrix> It's really random. It can crash after 10 min or 1h
#1487 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> rikister - Does it lag in single player or multiplayer?
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#1489 [13:42] <rikister> singleplayer
#1490 [13:42] <rikister> yesterday it worked fine
#1491 [13:42] <chasbrown> update your direct X to 10?
#1492 [13:43] <chasbrown> do they have DX10 for XP?
#1493 [13:43] <Hatrix> A really few people have the same problem. But only 2-3 guys.... No solution yet :x
#1494 [13:43] <vcordie> Rikister: optifog, optimine with nosky, get better processer, also, I only did a quick google search but it looks like your graphics card is intergrated, so get the CAF stutter fix.
#1495 [13:43] <chasbrown> u need a better GPU than ATI IMHO
#1496 [13:43] <chasbrown> :P
#1497 [13:43] <vcordie> also, run malwarebytes and hijackthis to find out what is running.
#1498 [13:43] <vcordie> you might want to use gamebooster to shut down unnessecary processes, that can really help.
#1499 [13:44] <vcordie> run pc decrapifer and some other defrag programs
#1500 [13:44] <vcordie> oh, take the cover off your pc, and clean the damn thing, clean the gunk out of it.
#1501 [13:44] <vcordie> using compressed air
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#1503 [13:44] <rikister> I cleaned it 2 weeks ago :)
#1504 [13:44] <Hatrix> I forgot to notice that I'm on a laptop
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#1506 [13:44] <rikister> But i'll try to do something about it.
#1507 [13:45] <chasbrown> back in the day when i had an AMD i used to use this
#1508 [13:45] <chasbrown> http://www.dachshundsoftware.com/hare/index.html
#1509 [13:45] <chasbrown> like way back in the day
#1510 [13:45] <chasbrown> it is prolly the same as gamebooster
#1511 [13:45] <SeventhSky> anyway , at least i can play minecraft
#1512 [13:45] <SeventhSky> :>
#1513 [13:46] <rikister> I think that my RAM doesn't cause this :P
#1514 [13:46] <Hatrix> I can't.
#1515 [13:46] <chasbrown> well i doubt it has to do with the minecraft app in any way :P
#1516 [13:46] <rikister> wrong smiley :<
#1517 [13:46] <chasbrown> T_T
#1518 [13:46] <rikister> vcordie thanks for help :)
#1519 [13:46] <chasbrown> try re-installing java
#1520 [13:46] <chasbrown> maybe
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#1522 [13:47] <vcordie> You be welcome. Try to figure out what changed between today and yesterday
#1523 [13:47] <Hatrix> So, nobody ? :|
#1524 [13:47] <vcordie> and try just shutting off your computer, turning it back on again, and not touching it after startup until it quiets down and the little light that indicates its doing something stops flicking.
#1525 [13:47] <rikister> Yeah
#1526 [13:48] <rikister> Mayby it will work tomorrow :)
#1527 [13:48] <rikister> Ok but thanks and bye :)
#1528 [13:48] <Hatrix> So nothing for me ?
#1529 [13:48] <Hatrix> I'm sad
#1530 [13:49] <chasbrown> that sounds like an issue with your PC
#1531 [13:49] <chasbrown> Hatrix
#1532 [13:49] <vcordie> Whats your issue again, hatrix?
#1533 [13:49] <Hatrix> I know it's not an issue with my toaster
#1534 [13:49] * vcordie is too lazy to scroll up
#1534 [13:49] <chasbrown> So from what i gather, you have everything updated. And your whole screen, not just minecraft, goes blank?
#1535 [13:50] <NinjaKirby> Do Mobs require grass to spawn upon? Or just a light source? ^^;;
#1536 [13:50] <Hatrix> vcordie, black screen when playing. Not just minecraft, but PC
#1537 [13:50] <Hatrix> need to reboot
#1538 [13:50] <vcordie> oh right.
#1539 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> NinjaKirby - Depends on the mob, but usually both
#1540 [13:50] <NinjaKirby> Thanks >_<;;
#1541 [13:50] <vcordie> You're fucked. other then trying a new graphics card and checking for bent pins, I have no fucking idea.
#1542 [13:50] <Hatrix> It's a laptop
#1543 [13:50] <Hatrix> I changed my RAM
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#1545 [13:51] <chasbrown> Sounds like an issue with your toaster.
#1546 [13:51] <chasbrown> :P
#1547 [13:51] <Vhozard> there are several things you can do
#1548 [13:51] <Hatrix> Changed my heatsink
#1549 [13:51] <Vhozard> best thing is to take it to a small computer store
#1550 [13:51] <Hatrix> changed my hard disk
#1551 [13:51] <vcordie> Hatrix: something is fucked up.
#1552 [13:51] <chasbrown> Who is the manufacturer?
#1553 [13:51] <vcordie> Minecraft memory leaks likefuck.
#1554 [13:52] <Hatrix> vcordie, seems to be :x
#1555 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> :P
#1556 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> javaaaaaa
#1557 [13:52] <vcordie> Yeah
#1558 [13:52] <vcordie> its java
#1559 [13:52] <vcordie> and notch
#1560 [13:52] <Hatrix> It's an integrated graphic card
#1561 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> anyways if Intel: no standalone
#1562 [13:52] <Vhozard> its notch
#1563 [13:52] <Hatrix> so, hard to replace
#1564 [13:52] <Vhozard> java can be great
#1565 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> Hatrix: intel?
#1566 [13:52] <Hatrix> tyteen4a03, it's intel
#1567 [13:52] * xolotl has never seen this supposed Minecraft memory leak that other folks mention
#1567 [13:52] <vcordie> If I could go back in time, the first thing I would do is teach Notch how to use java garbage disposal.
#1568 [13:52] <Vhozard> hatrix, take it to the store...
#1569 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> if intel, then you cant play on standalone
#1570 [13:52] <xolotl> In my experience Minecraft will never consume more memory than you've told it to use with -Xmx
#1571 [13:52] <chasbrown> yeah i dont have a memory leak, that sounds like you have a crappy laptop
#1572 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> it is a bug notch hasnt fixed
#1573 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> since like alpha
#1574 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> you will only be able to play in web
#1575 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> minecraft.net/game aka
#1576 [13:53] <chasbrown> maybe in windows
#1577 [13:53] <Hatrix> I've 6GB ram
#1578 [13:53] <Hatrix> It's enough
#1579 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> Hatrix: more than enough ram :P
#1580 [13:53] <xolotl> That's actaully not entirely true re: Intel, btw. Minecraft ran acceptably on my previous integrated-Intel laptop
#1581 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> xolotl: windows?
#1582 [13:53] <chasbrown> yeah i dont think a memory leak is going to black screen your laptop
#1583 [13:53] <xolotl> Ah, no. Linux.
#1584 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> Intel and Linux works fine
#1585 [13:54] <Hatrix> troll's day is tomorow
#1586 [13:54] <xolotl> heh, k.
#1587 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> its only Intel and Winows
#1588 [13:54] * xolotl shuts up then
#1588 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> which is derpy
#1589 [13:54] * tyteen4a03 hugs xolotl
#1589 [13:54] <xolotl> hugs ahoy!
#1590 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> :P
#1591 [13:54] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :What is this
#1592 [13:54] <Hatrix> So, graphic card / screen / intel
#1593 [13:54] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Hug an axolotl day?
#1594 [13:54] <Hatrix> I'll check that
#1595 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> blame intel and notch and opengl
#1596 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> endf
#1597 [13:54] <chasbrown> dude all those things you just mentioned are awesome
#1598 [13:55] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :
ACTION hugs xolotl too

#1599 [13:55] <chasbrown> lol
#1600 [13:55] <xolotl> lukegb: hug an aztec deity, actually
#1601 [13:55] <chasbrown> wow this is silly, i am out
#1602 [13:55] <chasbrown> lol
#1603 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> chasbrown: they cause a problem when being together
#1604 [13:55] <Hatrix> Another question, is there a chan about redstone there ?
#1605 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> for some reason
#1606 [13:55] <xolotl> /topic HUGFEST
#1607 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> #redstone
#1608 [13:55] * Hatrix hugs tyteen4a03
#1608 [13:55] <Hatrix> tyteen4a03, rly?
#1609 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> no
#1610 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> jk
#1611 [13:55] <Hatrix> tyteen4a03, it exists
#1612 [13:55] <Hatrix> win
#1613 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> it leads to something else
#1614 [13:56] <vcordie> xolotl: It uses that memory extremely quickly because it doesnt actually discard previous chunks and other things.
#1615 [13:56] <vcordie> because notch cannot fucking use java garbage dispoal.
#1616 [13:56] <dopeghot1> vox, give #minecrafthelp a huge hug
#1617 [13:56] <VoxelHead> *huggles #minecrafthelp*
#1618 [13:56] <xolotl> vcordie: So? It's still not going to use more than you've limited it to.
#1619 [13:56] <tyteen4a03> it shouldnt really discard previous chunks... for redstones
#1620 [13:57] <tyteen4a03> but for other things, yes
#1621 [13:57] <tyteen4a03> TAKE OUT THE GARBAGE
#1622 [13:57] <vcordie> but going ot hit massive slowdowns, and freeze up.
#1623 [13:57] <xolotl> vcordie: I have never encountered that, though perhaps Linux handles things better than Windows.
#1624 [13:57] <dopeghot1> s/perhaps //#FTFY
#1625 [13:57] <vcordie> definitely.
#1626 [13:57] <dopeghot1> also, good morning!
#1627 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> xolotl: Linux has better opengl support
#1628 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> because Linux is open-sourcy
#1629 [13:58] <Vhozard> opengl sucks
#1630 [13:58] <VoxelHead> Opengl is a pile of vadge.
#1631 [13:58] <Vhozard> and so does linux
#1632 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> but Micro$oft prefers DirectX
#1633 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> http://is.gd/pY4Z1n
#1634 [13:58] <Hatrix> where are you all from ?
#1635 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> Hatrix: Hong Kong
#1636 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: ^ that link is for you.
#1637 [13:58] <Vhozard> the internet
#1638 [13:58] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: no
#1639 [13:59] <chasbrown> yeah vhozard you are retarded
#1640 [13:59] <chasbrown> just sayin
#1641 [13:59] <chasbrown> sitting here thinkin about that
#1642 [13:59] <Hatrix> tyteen4a03, okay
#1643 [13:59] <chasbrown> :P
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#1645 [13:59] <Vhozard> rofl
#1646 [13:59] <Vhozard> that was actually a funny vid
#1647 [13:59] <tyteen4a03> and I actually liked the singing
#1648 [14:00] <chasbrown> linux runs the internet
#1649 [14:00] <chasbrown> if you dont like linux then you are in the wrong place
#1650 [14:00] <Hatrix> chasbrown, texas ?
#1651 [14:00] <Vhozard> lol
#1652 [14:00] <chasbrown> yeah
#1653 [14:00] <chasbrown> texas
#1654 [14:00] <Vhozard> i was talking about games
#1655 [14:00] <Hatrix> New Braunfels ?
#1656 [14:00] <chasbrown> ok so if you want to play games
#1657 [14:00] <tyteen4a03> chasbrown: wrong universe, to be more exact
#1658 [14:00] * Briggsby [Briggsby@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1659 [14:00] <tyteen4a03> try iphone
#1660 [14:00] <xolotl> chasbrown: I've been using Linux for 15 years or so, and I love it, but there are plenty of reasons to not like Linux. :)
#1661 [14:00] <chasbrown> linux is awesome for games
#1662 [14:00] <tyteen4a03> or android
#1663 [14:00] <Vhozard> chasbrown: dont try
#1664 [14:01] <chasbrown> people just dont
#1665 [14:01] <chasbrown> make them for linux
#1666 [14:01] <chasbrown> i will try
#1667 [14:01] <chasbrown> i work at a huge hosting company
#1668 [14:01] <chasbrown> and all i do is work on linux
#1669 [14:01] <chasbrown> it runs your ass
#1670 [14:01] <tyteen4a03> is directx any better, seriously?
#1671 [14:01] <Briggsby> Can anyone help me I bought a gift code for my friend but I didn't get an email and there's no gift codes on my profile page; anyone got any ideas?
#1672 [14:01] <Vhozard> directx is better than opengl
#1673 [14:01] <Vhozard> its just closed-source
#1674 [14:02] <Hatrix> I'm a robot pirate.
#1675 [14:02] <Vhozard> chasbrown: graphics drivers just suck for linux
#1676 [14:02] <Hatrix> nvidia's drivers works cool on linux
#1677 [14:02] <chasbrown> yeah that is true but i dont use linux for the graphics
#1678 [14:02] <chasbrown> nvidia is good at it
#1679 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: short answer: No, DX is not all that much better.
#1680 [14:02] <chasbrown> ATI was horrible
#1681 [14:02] <vcordie> I dont want to use linux, it doesnt support as many things as windows, I dont want to get used to a whole new OS, and its command lined based, correct? I want a gui, damn it.
#1682 [14:02] <Briggsby> anyone got any ideas? please?
#1683 [14:02] <Hatrix> Minecraft woorks fine
#1684 [14:02] <chasbrown> nvidia is dropping off tho
#1685 [14:02] <chasbrown> its something else now
#1686 [14:02] <VoxelHead> Thank you... i love you.
#1687 [14:02] <vcordie> I NEED a UI.
#1688 [14:02] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: yes it is
#1689 [14:03] <tyteen4a03> Linux is for servers, Mac is for Graphics, Windows is for games, IE is for getting a better browser
#1690 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> vcordie: there are many GUI options for Linux, actually
#1691 [14:03] <Vhozard> last time I used nvidia was with a GeForce 2 lol
#1692 [14:03] <Hatrix> Briggsby, sorry I don't know
#1693 [14:03] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :DopeGhoti++
#1694 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> and most desktop distros come with at least one preinstalled
#1695 [14:03] <Briggsby> dammit...
#1696 [14:03] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :LXDE, GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Fluxbox
#1697 [14:03] <Hatrix> Hey guys ! Someone for Briggsby ?
#1698 [14:03] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :The list goes on and on and on
#1699 [14:03] <Briggsby> sorry for just sort of coming on here and instantly asking a question :P
#1700 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> That's what we're here for
#1701 [14:03] <chasbrown> ubuntu is getting rid of gnome and using something called enlightenment
#1702 [14:03] <chasbrown> its lame
#1703 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> Briggsby: no problem, that's actually what we're here for (:
#1704 [14:03] <Vhozard> I installed arch linux some time ago
#1705 [14:03] <chasbrown> in 11.11
#1706 [14:04] <Hatrix> Briggsby, you're not wrong, you have to do it
#1707 [14:04] <Briggsby> lol thanks
#1708 [14:04] <Vhozard> put lxde + openbox on it
#1709 [14:04] <Vhozard> low ram usage
#1710 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> chasbrown: I think you mean Unity, but GNOME will also still be an option
#1711 [14:04] <Hatrix> Just don't be like Hatrix, DATA
#1712 [14:04] <chasbrown> oh yeah
#1713 [14:04] <chasbrown> unity
#1714 [14:04] <chasbrown> its lame
#1715 [14:04] <Briggsby> I chekced on paypal and the transaction went through
#1716 [14:04] <chasbrown> its like a cell phone
#1717 [14:04] <Vhozard> but cant do shit with linux
#1718 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> Briggsby: Did the monet come out of.. okay, it did
#1719 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> Briggsby: what account name did you use?
#1720 [14:04] <xolotl> Vhozard: Aw man. I'll stop using it then.
#1721 [14:04] <Briggsby> briggsby
#1722 [14:04] <xolotl> And here I thought I was doing things on it...
#1723 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> !paid Briggsby
#1724 [14:05] <chasbrown> you can do whatever you want you just need to know how
#1725 [14:05] <Vhozard> xolotl: lol, i meant the things I do ;)
#1726 [14:05] <Hatrix> !paid Hatrix42
#1727 [14:05] <Briggsby> twice :P
#1728 [14:05] <Vhozard> encoding
#1729 [14:05] <Hatrix> \o\
#1730 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> Briggsby: try logging out of, and logging back into, the web site
#1731 [14:05] <Vhozard> cant do that on linux decently
#1732 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> and checking your profile page
#1733 [14:05] <tyteen4a03> !paid paid
#1734 [14:05] <Hatrix> So, has paid the guys who is using my nick ? T_T
#1735 [14:05] <Hatrix> !paid Hatrix
#1736 [14:05] <Briggsby> I tried that a few times because I've been checking every now and again for the last few hours
#1737 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: Please move this discussion to #OS-holy-wars; you are interfering with on-topic discussion now.
#1738 [14:05] <Hatrix> hmm ?
#1739 [14:05] <chasbrown> !paid
#1740 [14:05] <tyteen4a03> !paid minecraft
#1741 [14:05] <Hatrix> !paid Hatrix
#1742 [14:05] <chasbrown> !paid chasbrown
#1743 [14:05] <Hatrix> urf
#1744 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> ?? bots
#1745 [14:06] <Vhozard> aw
#1746 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> ?? irc/bots
#1747 [14:06] <VoxelHead> irc/bots: The bots in this channel are meant to be used for assisting users in need of help
#1748 [14:06] <VoxelHead> irc/bots: Abuse of the bots will have you removed from the channel. If you aren't using the bot for it's intended purpose, you ARE abusing it
#1749 [14:06] <Vhozard> that channel doesnt exist :(
#1750 [14:06] <Hatrix> !paid Worms
#1751 [14:06] <Hatrix> !paid testlfeklogerh
#1752 [14:06] * DopeGhoti kicked Hatrix from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Stop.)
#1753 [14:06] <chasbrown> i guess hatrix is not reading
#1754 [14:06] <chasbrown> lol
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#1756 [14:06] <Briggsby> lol
#1757 [14:06] <Hatrix> Ok. It was a test
#1758 [14:07] <Briggsby> so anyone got any ideas or am I gonna need to see if I can convince my friend that he has to pay double?
#1759 [14:07] <chasbrown> convince him to give you the money
#1760 [14:07] <Briggsby> lol
#1761 [14:07] <chasbrown> then go get some weed and smoke it
#1762 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> Briggsby: the account is live and paid for
#1763 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Briggsby - You bought a gift code?
#1764 [14:07] <Briggsby> yeah
#1765 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> For who
#1766 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> (whom)
#1767 [14:08] * GreyVulpine kicks DG
#1767 [14:08] <Briggsby> friend, doens't even have an account yet but I haven't got any gift codes on my profile
#1768 [14:08] <Vhozard> waot
#1769 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> Briggsby: have you yet tried logging out and clearing your cache, and logging back in?
#1770 [14:08] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: you get paid for doing this?
#1771 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: No.
#1772 [14:08] <Vhozard> LOL
#1773 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> (well. Not usually)
#1774 [14:08] <Vhozard> thats sad :(
#1775 [14:08] <Briggsby> clearing internet cache?
#1776 [14:08] <Briggsby> browser cache*
#1777 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> Briggsby: indeed. It's possible your browser may be displaying old information
#1778 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> just wanted to cover that base
#1779 [14:09] <Briggsby> hmmm, I'll try that, definitley possible as I'm using opera
#1780 [14:09] <Briggsby> k thanks ill be back in a bit then
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#1782 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> good luck!
#1783 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> If no one else actually has support issues, OS jihads may now recommence so long as they stay cordial.
#1784 [14:10] <Vhozard> NOKIA 3310 OS FTW
#1785 [14:10] <Vhozard> this ^ ?
#1786 [14:10] <xolotl> Haiku!!1
#1787 [14:10] <VoxelHead> hurrah
#1788 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> <3 BeOS
#1789 [14:11] <chasbrown> Dude nokia OS was sick
#1790 [14:11] <chasbrown> Too bad its gonna be gone
#1791 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> but then, <3 any POSIX implementation (:
#1792 [14:11] <Vhozard> who didnt play Snake II
#1793 [14:11] <Vhozard> it was the bomb
#1794 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: meh, I preferred the original.
#1795 [14:11] <Vhozard> i could go through the wall \o/
#1796 [14:11] <Vhozard> nowadays all them fanboys with their fancy ps3's :(
#1797 [14:12] * Hatrix [Hatrix@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1798 [14:12] <Hatrix> wow, disconnected
#1799 [14:12] <Hatrix> switch is ok, I thunk my rj45 is bugged
#1800 [14:12] * mib_b57wqx [mib_b57wqx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1801 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> I happen to like my PS3. And my 360. And my PC. And my iPod. And my Android-based phone.
#1802 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> Brand loyalty is overrated.
#1803 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> Quality loyalty, however, is oft-warranted.
#1804 [14:14] <bread> ohey mr DopeGhoti
#1805 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> morning, glutenated one.
#1806 [14:14] <bread> xales had some fun, and instigated a masskick from my channel lol
#1807 [14:15] <Vhozard> quality?
#1808 [14:15] <Vhozard> whats that
#1809 [14:15] <Vhozard> im on a mac
#1810 [14:15] * Captain-Lightning is back (gone 10:52:33)
#1810 [14:15] <VoxelHead> hey
#1811 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> what does instant-messaging on a mac have to do with anything?
#1812 [14:15] * Briggsbi [Briggsbi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1813 [14:15] <Briggsbi> k I tried clearing the cache and refreshing hte page and it didn't work :(
#1814 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> so going to the profile page still shows no gift codes?
#1815 [14:16] <Briggsbi> yeah...
#1816 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> How long ago did you pay, and with what service?
#1817 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> okay, at this point then, I would email payment@mojang.com with the details of what has happened, including the PayPal transaction ID for the gift code purchase.
#1818 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> GV: IIRC PP
#1819 [14:17] <Briggsbi> okay, thanks then :)
#1820 [14:18] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: ugh
#1821 [14:18] <Vhozard> I said "quality, whats that?" and then "im on a mac"
#1822 [14:18] <Vhozard> ...
#1823 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> and then I said:
#1824 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> what does instant-messaging on a mac have to do with anything?
#1825 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> I was here, remember?
#1826 [14:18] <Vhozard> nice
#1827 [14:18] <Vhozard> youre countering it with being random
#1828 [14:19] <Vhozard> I like that
#1829 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> no, I was countering it with asking why you were changing the subject
#1830 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> or did you mean "I'm" when you said 'im'?
#1831 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> Because the two terms are completely different.
#1832 [14:19] <Morrolan> Vhozard: I actually thought that his joke was kidna funny. D:
#1833 [14:19] <Morrolan> :D*
#1834 [14:19] <Morrolan> kinda*
#1835 [14:19] <tyteen4a03> !help
#1836 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: <3
#1837 [14:19] <tyteen4a03> !client
#1838 [14:20] <Kealper> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20062419-38.html Discuss.
#1839 [14:20] <Vhozard> change the subject
#1840 [14:20] <Vhozard> hmm
#1841 [14:20] <Vhozard> oh
#1842 [14:20] <Vhozard> you were referring to ps3/xbox360/android
#1843 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#1844 [14:21] <Kealper> also if AuBot will actually work this time.... you there, failbot...show the title of that url
#1845 [14:21] <Kealper> stupid bot
#1846 [14:21] <Vhozard> lol
#1847 [14:21] * jimmy [jimmy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1848 [14:21] <Vhozard> AuBot: url now please
#1849 [14:21] <Vhozard> L.
#1850 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: I should perhaps have specified PCs; plural: one of my PCs is also a Mac.
#1851 [14:21] <Vhozard> i am listening to taylor swift
#1852 [14:22] <Vhozard> lol
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#1854 [14:22] <Vhozard> i can bash macs as much as i want, those people still have thick wallets
#1855 [14:22] <Vhozard> :/
#1856 [14:22] <tyteen4a03> !paid AuBot
#1857 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> ??>> tyteen4a03 irc/bots
#1858 [14:23] <Briggsbi> okay I sent the email, let's hope it worked :)
#1859 [14:23] <Kealper> no one said it had to be a new mac....used ones are pretty cheap
#1860 [14:23] <tyteen4a03> the owner should pay for you
#1861 [14:23] <Briggsbi> thanks
#1862 [14:23] <Kealper> tyteen4a03: no
#1863 [14:23] <DopeGhoti> Briggsbi: you should hear from them relatively soon.
#1864 [14:23] <Vhozard> 2nd hand macs
#1865 [14:23] <Vhozard> hmm, never heard of that before
#1866 [14:23] <Kealper> and they arn't bad for what their intended purpose is
#1867 [14:24] <DopeGhoti> My mac is a first-gen Mini. Mmmm, it's so RISC-y.
#1868 [14:24] <Kealper> RISC, the best kind of ISC
#1869 [14:24] <Vhozard> im still kinda amazed at new cpu's
#1870 [14:24] <Vhozard> it all sucks
#1871 [14:24] <Vhozard> till you get into math
#1872 [14:24] <Vhozard> and see how fast a cpu can do stuff
#1873 [14:25] <Kealper> GPUs are faster :3
#1874 [14:25] <Vhozard> no
#1875 [14:25] <Kealper> at math? they are unbelievibly faster
#1876 [14:25] <Vhozard> no
#1877 [14:25] <Kealper> (spelling, i know)
#1878 [14:25] * Hatrix [Hatrix@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1879 [14:25] <Vhozard> not on single threaded things
#1880 [14:25] * dr_bibble [dr_bibble@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1881 [14:25] <Vhozard> parallel data processing, yes they are
#1882 [14:26] <Hatrix> disjoncted
#1883 [14:26] <Kealper> well i didn't mean for single threads, if you're going to use a GPU, it'd be dumb not to have multiple threads >.>
#1884 [14:26] <dr_bibble> i have a litle problem :(
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#1886 [14:26] <Wug> well I have to leave. final and all
#1887 [14:26] * Kealper waves to Wug _o/
#1887 [14:26] <Kealper> dr_bibble: what sort of problem?
#1888 [14:26] * Wug waves to Kealper
#1888 [14:26] <dr_bibble> i started a normal minecraft server
#1889 [14:26] <Vhozard> its just very hard to make things multithreaded
#1890 [14:26] <Vhozard> thats why cpu's are still vital
#1891 [14:26] <dr_bibble> runned hamatchi,
#1892 [14:27] <Wug> eew hamachi
#1893 [14:27] <Wug> theres your problem
#1894 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> that'd be the problem right there.
#1895 [14:27] <DopeGhoti> ?? fubar/hamachi
#1896 [14:27] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1897 [14:27] <Vhozard> ^
#1898 [14:27] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1899 [14:27] <dr_bibble> and me and a guy conected on a hamatchi network
#1900 [14:27] <xolotl> I only run Minecraft on Unagi; it's much tastier
#1901 [14:27] <Vhozard> dont use hamachi
#1902 [14:27] <dr_bibble> and played on the server.... and it worked
#1903 [14:28] <dr_bibble> we played a while but later when we shoud logg on it diddent work.. well , it worked for me but not him
#1904 [14:28] <DopeGhoti> MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1905 [14:28] <Vhozard> just use your wan ip :/
#1906 [14:29] <dr_bibble> i see but this is minecraft we are talking here :O
#1907 [14:29] <Kealper> dr_bibble: is he using the correct IP?
#1908 [14:29] <dr_bibble> ye i got on whatsmyip.org and copied it for him
#1909 [14:29] <dr_bibble> he used that and it diddent work
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#1911 [14:30] <Vhozard> you have to forward port 25565 in your router
#1912 [14:30] <dr_bibble> yes
#1913 [14:30] <dr_bibble> ..
#1914 [14:30] <dr_bibble> i'll just do that... then..
#1915 [14:30] <Vhozard> then you didnt do that properly
#1916 [14:30] <Kealper> did you touch server.properties in any way at any time?
#1917 [14:30] <dr_bibble> yes ofc i did
#1918 [14:30] <dr_bibble> i changed the ipv4 addres to mine
#1919 [14:30] <Kealper> did you touch server-ip?
#1920 [14:31] <Kealper> bad!
#1921 [14:31] <tzar88ivan> i just bougth the game 5 min ago... but i keeps chrashing to a black screen. what should i do?
#1922 [14:31] <dr_bibble> ?
#1923 [14:31] <Kealper> make server-ip be blank
#1924 [14:31] <Kealper> that setting is not what you think it is
#1925 [14:31] <dr_bibble> ohh
#1926 [14:31] <dr_bibble> i'll try :)
#1927 [14:31] <Vhozard> tzar88ivan: youre on windows or linux?
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#1929 [14:32] <tzar88ivan> win
#1930 [14:32] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: we need a ?? server-ip entry....so many people get that wrong :/
#1931 [14:32] <tzar88ivan> win 7
#1932 [14:32] <Vhozard> nvm then
#1933 [14:32] <tzar88ivan> nvm ?
#1934 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/server-ip
#1935 [14:32] <VoxelHead> smp/server-ip: Do not enter anything on the server-ip= line of the server.properties file. In nearly ALL cases, you want to leave it blank.
#1936 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> like that one?
#1937 [14:32] <Kealper> TIL
#1938 [14:32] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1939 [14:32] <gronoth> how does one add my name to ops.txt
#1940 [14:33] <Kealper> "op username" inside the server console
#1941 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> gronoth: on the server console, 'op YOURNAME'
#1942 [14:33] <dr_bibble> that diddent work at all. now i cant get inn... i coud before..
#1943 [14:33] <DopeGhoti> or just open the file in your favourite text editor
#1944 [14:33] <dr_bibble> om using local ip
#1945 [14:33] <dr_bibble> :(
#1946 [14:33] <Kealper> dr_bibble: the line says "server-ip=" without quotes now, right?
#1947 [14:33] <dr_bibble> yes
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#1949 [14:34] <dr_bibble> server-ip=
#1950 [14:34] <Kealper> try connecting to 127.0.0.1
#1951 [14:34] <dr_bibble> on minecraft ?
#1952 [14:34] <Kealper> yes
#1953 [14:34] <tzar88ivan> so what should i do?
#1954 [14:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> tzar88ivan win/reinst
#1955 [14:34] <VoxelHead> tzar88ivan: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1956 [14:34] <VoxelHead> tzar88ivan: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1957 [14:35] <dr_bibble> failed to connect to server
#1958 [14:35] <Kealper> dr_bibble: your server is running on the same computer you are trying to play on, right?
#1959 [14:35] <Vhozard> Kealper: that actually doesnt always work on windows
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#1961 [14:35] <dr_bibble> yes
#1962 [14:36] <Vhozard> I cant connect to my own server either
#1963 [14:36] <Hatrix> ahahahah.... A chunk regenerated itself on my redstone circuit -_-
#1964 [14:36] <Kealper> Hatrix: ouch
#1965 [14:36] <Hatrix> A stupid mountain, cubic mountain
#1966 [14:36] <dr_bibble> but i have always before when i had a server, i had my ipv4 in the server ip
#1967 [14:36] <Kealper> dr_bibble: any firewall software (windows firewall, included) installed?
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#1969 [14:36] <Vhozard> lets build a pc in redstone and have servers run on it
#1970 [14:36] <dr_bibble> hmm
#1971 [14:36] <Vhozard> most efficient way ever
#1972 [14:36] <dr_bibble> 2 sec :)
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#1974 [14:37] <dr_bibble> does i need to take off my fierwall ???
#1975 [14:37] <gronoth> how does one type into the server consol so i can type op my name
#1976 [14:37] <Kealper> Vhozard: as for what you said...i've never had a problem on any computers with localhost :/
#1977 [14:38] <Hatrix> Kealper, not a hard circuit, never mind
#1978 [14:38] <Hatrix> just a calculator
#1979 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> gronoth - op yourname
#1980 [14:38] <Vhozard> Kealper: I have, lol
#1981 [14:38] <gronoth> yea
#1982 [14:38] <gronoth> how do i get toi consol
#1983 [14:38] <Vhozard> I could use linux and connect to localhost
#1984 [14:38] <Kealper> dr_bibble: uhh, try taking it off totally for a sec to just test
#1985 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> gronoth - Wherever you have your server running
#1986 [14:38] <Vhozard> I could run the server in vmware in windows and connect
#1987 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a windows server running with minecraft_server.exe?
#1988 [14:39] <Vhozard> but just running the server and connecting, doesnt work
#1989 [14:39] <gronoth> im usiong a brohoster
#1990 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> It'll be the window that pops up when you run your server
#1991 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> gronoth - Then, go into the brohoster file manager, edit ops.txt
#1992 [14:39] <Kealper> dr_bibble: if it works, then you will have to dig around to find a way to add an exception for it, if it still doesn't work...then...bleh
#1993 [14:39] <gronoth> i c
#1994 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> Put your name in it, and restart the server
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#1996 [14:41] <sdgdysgd> bread has dicks in his but
#1997 [14:42] * Kealper kicked sdgdysgd from #minecrafthelp (Reason: sdgdysgd)
#1998 [14:42] <bread> lol he mad
#1999 [14:42] <xales> I banned that range a while ago
#2000 [14:42] <xales> ._.
#2001 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> What in the..
#2002 [14:42] <Kealper> >washoe.k12.nv.us
#2003 [14:42] <Kealper> >k12
#2004 [14:42] <dr_bibble> that did notwork :(, but maby i chal open tha port on my internett. instedd of using hamatchi
#2005 [14:42] <Kealper> stupid highschoolers >.>
#2006 [14:42] <bread> I think I shall report him to dragonweyr for harrasment, as he pm'd me with shit like that as well.
#2007 [14:42] <Vhozard> well
#2008 [14:43] <Vhozard> I guess bread doesnt has dics in his but
#2009 [14:43] <tzar88ivan> didn't help
#2010 [14:44] <dr_bibble> but are you shure i chal just leave my server ip blank. i have always used my ipv4
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#2012 [14:45] <DopeGhoti> Ban put in place on the bot so that the reason is there.
#2013 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, interesting.
#2014 [14:46] <Kealper> figured someone put it in the bot lol
#2015 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> "Sending emails to the regular payment/support mail will give an automated reply and link to the support system. I do really hope this will work, if not, we will figure out something new to help you out."
#2016 [14:46] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I just did.
#2017 [14:46] * GreyVulpine sends an email to support@mojang to test that out
#2017 [14:47] <Kealper> hmm....why does GDI+ have to be so slow on Windows 7
#2018 [14:47] * Lykkepillen [Lykkepillen@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2019 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> Because it's dividing its time between the GUI and its ongoing wars with the Brotherhood of Nod?
#2020 [14:47] <Kealper> sadly, i have to agree
#2021 [14:48] <Kealper> but it kinda sucks...because drawing the frames to the GUI takes ages....
#2022 [14:48] <Lykkepillen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89lSin6PGFk 0:53 - Can anyone tell me how this inventory pop-up thing is done?
#2023 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, their ticket system is still working at support@mojang.com
#2024 [14:49] <Lykkepillen> Oh it cutout my text..
#2025 [14:49] <Lykkepillen> 0:53 - Can anyone tell me how this inventory pop-up thing is done?
#2026 [14:49] <Morrolan> Lykkepillen: Too many items
#2027 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Lykkepillen - in-game inventory editor
#2028 [14:49] <Morrolan> ^, called "too many items"
#2029 [14:50] <Lykkepillen> Can it be used on multiplayer servers?
#2030 [14:50] * Kealper looks at code to see where he can try to ease some slowness
#2030 [14:50] <Morrolan> Lykkepillen, only if you're OP, obviously.
#2031 [14:50] <Kealper> Lykkepillen: if that is that is the mod i'm thinking of, yes
#2032 [14:50] <Lykkepillen> Well.. I only need the server admins to be able to use it obviously
#2033 [14:50] <Morrolan> Yep, in this case it works.
#2034 [14:50] <Lykkepillen> .. Or maybe just me..
#2035 [14:51] <Lykkepillen> Thanks! =)
#2036 [14:51] <Morrolan> It'll just try to use the /give command in SMP.
#2037 [14:51] <Lykkepillen> Aaah
#2038 [14:51] <Lykkepillen> Brilliant.. Thanks guys!
#2039 [14:51] <Morrolan> You're welcome.
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#2044 [14:55] <odds> hi
#2045 [14:55] <dr_bibble> hmm. i checked the ports and they where wrong, i fixed them. and i coud logg on but my friend coud not.
#2046 [14:56] <Kealper> dr_bibble: type !check in here
#2047 [14:56] <Morrolan> dr_bibble: He is connecting with your external ip, right?
#2048 [14:56] <Morrolan> odds: Hey.
#2049 [14:56] <odds> i just wanted to ask if it is ok to run a server in offline mode? i got the game, but a lot of my friends don't want to pay...
#2050 [14:56] <xales> odds: They have to pay to play the game, it's not free.
#2051 [14:57] <odds> i know, i already did that
#2052 [14:57] <Kealper> offline mode wouldn't do what you wanted it to anyways
#2053 [14:57] <Morrolan> You'll have troubles getting it to work with non-payed accounts, but, well, your choice. ;)
#2054 [14:58] <odds> but the question is if it i can get trouble for setting up a offline mode server
#2055 [14:58] <Morrolan> No.
#2056 [14:58] <Morrolan> It's completely up to you.
#2057 [14:58] <xales> But it also won't work, so there you go :)
#2058 [14:59] <odds> there are plugins to make it work
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#2060 [14:59] <odds> like xauth and stuff like that, so users have to register with the server...
#2061 [14:59] <Kealper> which go against the game's TOS, so....
#2062 [14:59] <xales> Using those, you _could_ get in trouble for
#2063 [14:59] <xales> :)
#2064 [15:00] <odds> ok so i can run the server in offline mode but i can't use such plugins?
#2065 [15:00] <xales> Pretty much
#2066 [15:00] <Morrolan> Yea, basically.
#2067 [15:00] <Morrolan> You know, it's like downloading games from the internet.
#2068 [15:00] <Morrolan> Most likely you won't get any trouble, but there's always the slight chance that you do.
#2069 [15:00] <Morrolan> And if you do, then they're pretty big.
#2070 [15:01] <odds> Ok, i don't want any trouble, so that's why i am asking
#2071 [15:01] <Kealper> ugh....i found the culprit of slow-ness
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#2073 [15:02] <xales> Windows?
#2074 [15:02] <Kealper> Windows 7 GDI+ image handling, specifically.....
#2075 [15:02] <odds> does anone of you have the link to the TOS? so i can look this stuff up?
#2076 [15:02] <Morrolan> ?? tos
#2077 [15:02] <VoxelHead> tos: http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp - The one major rule: Do not distribute anything I've made. This includes the client and the server software for the game.
#2078 [15:02] <VoxelHead> tos: This also includes modified versions of anything I've made. In order to maintain control of the project, I need all game downloads to come from a single central source. I hope you understand.
#2079 [15:03] <odds> so it's not even legal to use bukkit?
#2080 [15:03] <Kealper> it's taking 5-8ms each frame to draw the fadeable controls UI window, and it's because of the way i made it fade...
#2081 [15:03] <xales> It is, somewhat
#2082 [15:03] <Morrolan> odds: That's a borderline case.
#2083 [15:03] <xales> Mojang approves of Bukkit..
#2084 [15:04] <Kealper> odds: it is ok to use Bukkit, just not a Bukkit plugin that circumvents security
#2085 [15:05] <Kealper> stupid useless GDI+....it can't handle working with a 2800x100px image in a timely fashion >.>
#2086 [15:06] <Kealper> ugh....this means i have to split that up into a bunch of different frames ._.
#2087 [15:06] <odds> ok thanks guys, i just set the game to online mode and tell everyone to buy the game...
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#2089 [15:08] <Periclitor> hello
#2090 [15:08] <xales> Hi.
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#2092 [15:08] <Periclitor> Is there someone that might be able to help me with a Problem regarding my Account ?
#2093 [15:09] <xales> As the topic suggests, we aren't official support and so can't help with account issues
#2094 [15:09] <xales> However, see http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#2095 [15:09] <Periclitor> damn
#2096 [15:10] <Periclitor> thing is i purchased a giftcode for my brother and it won't showunder my profile the support page tells me it schould be there instantly
#2097 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> If you just bought the gift code, it may take some time for the payment to go through
#2098 [15:11] <Periclitor> how long ?
#2099 [15:12] <Periclitor> support page tells me it should work instantly
#2100 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Often, it's instant, but sometimes could take a few hours.
#2101 [15:12] <Periclitor> its been 45 mins
#2102 [15:12] <Periclitor> damn
#2103 [15:12] <Periclitor> ok
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#2105 [15:12] <Periclitor> ok different topic
#2106 [15:12] <Periclitor> lets assume my code arives in the near future
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#2108 [15:13] <Periclitor> i want to play with my brother on my own little server thats only up when we need it
#2109 [15:13] <Periclitor> what do i have to do for that ?
#2110 [15:13] <Kealper> is he on the same network as you?
#2111 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Server file is here: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2112 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Bottom of the page
#2113 [15:13] <Periclitor> nope we live in different cities
#2114 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> ??> Periclitor smp/serversetup
#2115 [15:15] <VoxelHead> Periclitor: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#2116 [15:15] <VoxelHead> Periclitor: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2117 [15:15] <Periclitor> thank you
#2118 [15:16] <Luridity> anyone here use redstone?
#2119 [15:16] <Luridity> For gates and such?
#2120 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2121 [15:16] <Luridity> Have you experienced any problems with XOR gates?
#2122 [15:16] <Luridity> like lag
#2123 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Can't say I have..
#2124 [15:16] <Luridity> hmm
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#2126 [15:17] <Luridity> I'm having a problem with some XOR gates in my ALU
#2127 [15:17] <Luridity> they're sometimes getting "stuck"
#2128 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like the redstone bug popping up
#2129 [15:17] <Luridity> and redstone wire is getting "stuck" as well
#2130 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> I assume this is on a server?
#2131 [15:17] <Luridity> yup
#2132 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Try restarting the server
#2133 [15:17] <Luridity> 24/7 server
#2134 [15:17] <Luridity> they're relocating it anyway
#2135 [15:17] <Luridity> in about 2 hours
#2136 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Ah, well, this bug's been around since 1.3, redstone will somtimes get 'stuck'
#2137 [15:19] <Luridity> hmm
#2138 [15:19] <Luridity> that's annoying
#2139 [15:19] <Luridity> how do you deal with it?
#2140 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Restart server whenever it crops up
#2141 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> No real fix for it right now
#2142 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully 1.6 will fix it, when it comes out next week
#2143 [15:20] <Kealper> (\o/)
#2144 [15:20] <Luridity> k
#2145 [15:20] <xales> >\o/<
#2146 [15:20] <xales> / \
#2147 [15:21] <Kealper> //\\ should be used for legs lol
#2148 [15:21] <Luridity> x_X
#2149 [15:21] <Luridity> ._.
#2150 [15:21] <xales> >\o/<
#2151 [15:21] <Luridity> .-.
#2152 [15:21] <xales> //\\
#2153 [15:21] <xales> meh
#2154 [15:21] <xales> not quite
#2155 [15:21] <Kealper> agreed. it doesn't look as good as i thought lol
#2156 [15:21] * Kealper has finished splitting that massive image up into individual frames
#2156 [15:22] <Kealper> time to throw code at it until it works faster
#2157 [15:22] <xales> Kealper: mind re-adding me to AuBot? :P
#2158 [15:22] <xales> it doesn't recognize the @inafire.com
#2159 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> I am lierally about to add a "multi-line emoticons will get you kicked" rule.
#2160 [15:22] <bread> xD
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#2163 [15:24] <Kealper> xales=die@inafire.com
#2164 [15:24] <Kealper> \o/
#2165 [15:25] <xales> lol
#2166 [15:25] <lol> bread!toastin@inafire.com
#2167 [15:25] <Kealper> really?
#2168 [15:25] <lol> :>
#2169 [15:25] <Kealper> win
#2170 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> chestnuts!roastin@inafire.com
#2171 [15:26] <Kealper> someone must.
#2172 [15:26] <lol> oh that's brilliant
#2173 [15:27] <Kealper> xales: you run znc, yes?
#2174 [15:27] <xales> Indeed
#2175 [15:27] <lol> I do. xales just does screen + irss afaik
#2176 [15:27] <lol> irssi*
#2177 [15:27] <xales> I don't have a connection exemption on inafire.com though
#2178 [15:27] <Kealper> is it using the inafire.com name?
#2179 [15:27] <lol> well, I guess I don't 'run' it, I just use it
#2180 [15:27] <lol> lol
#2181 [15:27] <xales> the bindhost is set per-user, Kealper :)
#2182 [15:28] <Kealper> oh...i was going to change AuBot's nick to Chestnuts and connect it to that lol
#2183 [15:28] <lol> NickServ (NickServ@services.esper.net): chestnuts is not registered.
#2184 [15:28] <xales> I don't think it would handle a bouncer too well...
#2185 [15:28] <xales> it's a bit funny with /who and /whois
#2186 [15:28] <Kealper> :/
#2187 [15:28] <xales> I only have two more connections for @inafire.com
#2188 [15:28] <xales> so you can use it, or AuBot can use it
#2189 [15:28] <xales> your choise. ._.
#2190 [15:29] <xales> choice*
#2191 [15:29] <Kealper> meh, i guess i'll just leave aubot where it is lol
#2192 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> I just thought it was witty, I can't be arsed to relearn my IRC habits to use a bouncer.
#2193 [15:30] <lol> It's no different than normal connections :o
#2194 [15:30] <xales> ^
#2195 [15:30] <lol> just instead of connecting to espernet you connect to the bouncer, and the bouncer is connected to espernet
#2196 [15:31] <Kealper> transparent proxies ftw
#2197 [15:31] <xales> Kealper: Do you want to use an @inafire.com address?
#2198 [15:31] <Kealper> that'd require me to reconnect, would it not?
#2199 [15:31] <xales> Pretty much
#2200 [15:32] <Kealper> bleh
#2201 [15:32] <lol> lol
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#2203 [15:32] <xales> Kealper: It's not that bad
#2204 [15:33] <xales> Kealper: Just set up /channel lists
#2205 [15:33] <xales> :)
#2206 [15:33] <Kealper> i have a few channels on autojoin, but meh
#2207 [15:33] <xales> So add em all. It's quite fast with a script :)
#2208 [15:34] <Kealper> kealper!kealper@inafire.com doesn't have a ring to it :<
#2209 [15:34] <xales> You can change the ident
#2210 [15:34] <xales> to anything you want, provided it's not taken by another user on the system
#2211 [15:34] <xales> (you can't be xales, or znc, or root, or ftp...)
#2212 [15:34] <Kealper> ftp lol
#2213 [15:35] <lol> you can't be bread either!
#2214 [15:35] <NotiCon> but i wanna be ftp :(
#2215 [15:35] <lol> cause that's me!
#2216 [15:35] <Kealper> ori@inafire.com amidoinitrite?
#2217 [15:35] <xales> lol
#2218 [15:36] <Kealper> ....Hallowed are the Ori....
#2219 [15:37] * xales kicked Kealper from #minecrafthelp (Reason: GTFO back to prostration, or be burned alive.)
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#2221 [15:37] <Kealper> don't hate
#2222 [15:37] <lol> lol
#2223 [15:37] <Kealper> bread you can just say " " and get that across right now lol
#2224 [15:37] * lol !
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#2225 [15:37] <Kealper> lol
#2226 [15:38] * xales *
#2226 [15:38] <lol> I think this is the best nick I've ever registered
#2227 [15:38] * lol
#2227 [15:38] <Kealper> ^
#2228 [15:38] <Kealper> i can't use the other nick i registered :<
#2229 [15:38] <lol> :o
#2230 [15:38] <Kealper> well....i can, but it would be bad
#2231 [15:38] <xales> Kealper: So, inafire.com y/n? ._.
#2232 [15:38] <lol> lol what is it, Kealper?
#2233 [15:38] <xales> You can at least set it up so when you do reconnect in the future for whatever reason, it will use inafire.com
#2234 [15:39] <xales> also, some hardcore thunder here :|
#2235 [15:39] * xales is expecting power loss
#2235 [15:39] <Kealper> :/
#2236 [15:39] <xales> and unlike Kealper, I have no fun UPS stuff
#2237 [15:39] <Kealper> lol: xnotch
#2238 [15:39] <xales> my router in my basement is on a UPS for some reason
#2239 [15:39] <xales> but..not anything else
#2240 [15:39] <xales> ._.
#2241 [15:39] <lol> Evil_notch
#2242 [15:39] <lol> lolo
#2243 [15:40] <xales> Kealper: For some reason, Verizon installs a UPS
#2244 [15:40] <xales> for the main router
#2245 [15:40] <xales> :|
#2246 [15:40] <Kealper> lol
#2247 [15:40] <xales> anyway
#2248 [15:40] <xales> to change your ident
#2249 [15:40] <xales> make a file in your home directory, called .oidentd.conf
#2250 [15:41] <xales> make sure it's o+r
#2251 [15:41] <xales> and that your home folder is o+x
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#2253 [15:41] <xales> in the file, put "global { reply "IDENT" }
#2254 [15:41] <xales> replace IDENT with what you want, of course
#2255 [15:41] <lol> I don't have one of those lol
#2256 [15:42] <lol> or is it in ZNC ~
#2257 [15:42] <lol> :o
#2258 [15:42] <xales> lol: you don't have one, you are using ZNC
#2259 [15:42] <xales> not irssi
#2260 [15:42] <lol> so I thought!
#2261 [15:42] <xales> it's the Ident option in the web thing.
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#2263 [15:42] <B52JOE> can some 1 help
#2264 [15:42] <xales> With?
#2265 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> with?
#2266 [15:43] <B52JOE> every time i press any but, it switches my stuff
#2267 [15:43] <lol> any butt?
#2268 [15:43] <xales> B52JOE: Uh, what?
#2269 [15:43] <Morrolan> Button I guess. :D
#2270 [15:44] <Morrolan> You guys clearly speak english too well. :D
#2271 [15:44] <lol> So it would seem!
#2272 [15:44] <xales> I prefer lolcat.
#2273 [15:44] <xales> ._.
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#2275 [15:45] <B52JOE> button*
#2276 [15:45] <B52JOE> BUTTON >:O
#2277 [15:45] <xales> Define "switches my stuff"
#2278 [15:45] <B52JOE> when i press a button, it just switches wut im holding :?
#2279 [15:45] <B52JOE> can i haz some help
#2280 [15:45] <B52JOE> ?
#2281 [15:45] <B52JOE> ???????
#2282 [15:45] <B52JOE> can i have help?
#2283 [15:45] <lol> :D
#2284 [15:46] <B52JOE> wut im holding will randomly switch to sumtin else in my hotbar
#2285 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Are you pressing a number key?
#2286 [15:46] <Morrolan> Hmm, that's strange.
#2287 [15:46] <B52JOE> nope
#2288 [15:46] <xales> Are you on a laptop?
#2289 [15:46] <Morrolan> Did you try a different mouse?
#2290 [15:46] <B52JOE> like: qwertyuiop[]assfghjkl;'zxvxbn and the rest
#2291 [15:46] <_303> my left mouse button is broken, so it randomly sends the middle mouse button, which triggers the "switch to currently mined block" mode
#2292 [15:46] <xales> Are you on a laptop?
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#2294 [15:46] <_303> maybe it's like that ^
#2295 [15:47] <B52JOE> YES!!!
#2296 [15:47] <B52JOE> laptop
#2297 [15:47] <xales> Are you accidentally using the scroll function? ._.
#2298 [15:47] <B52JOE> Hmmmmm
#2299 [15:47] <Morrolan> B52JOE, did you try to use a mouse?
#2300 [15:47] <B52JOE> were can i change that?
#2301 [15:47] <B52JOE> yup i use mouse
#2302 [15:47] <xales> Are you using a mouse or a trackpad, rather
#2303 [15:48] <Morrolan> Ok, did you try to use a different mouse?
#2304 [15:48] <B52JOE> i will
#2305 [15:48] <B52JOE> thnx guys
#2306 [15:48] <B52JOE> BYE!!!
#2307 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Interesting fellow.
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#2311 [15:50] <Kealper> finnally...
#2312 [15:51] <Kealper> got the UI stuff down to ~1ms to draw....when it was like 5-8ms to draw
#2313 [15:52] <weejimmy> please can you tell me how my son can play minecraft the one that has lifes and zombies in it
#2314 [15:53] <xales> Buy it, download it, run it
#2315 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> That would be survivial/beta, you need to pay for an account to play that
#2316 [15:53] <weejimmy> i have already puchased mincraft. do i have to purchase it again
#2317 [15:53] <xales> No. You just download it and log in with the account
#2318 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Nope, then you need to download the client http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2319 [15:55] <weejimmy> we have account and we can still access minecraft with the unlimited blocks. please can you advise us what to do now. sorry
#2320 [15:56] <xales> You download the game, and run it.
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#2322 [15:56] <xales> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2323 [15:56] <xales> Go there, download the game, and run it
#2324 [15:56] <hawk7998> hey
#2325 [15:56] <xales> Hi.
#2326 [15:56] <Kealper> hawk7998: hello
#2327 [15:56] <hawk7998> my minecraft wont work
#2328 [15:56] <hawk7998> it wont even load
#2329 [15:56] <Kealper> hawk7998: could you be a bit more specific?
#2330 [15:56] <weejimmy> thank you just going to try it now. we appreciate your help
#2331 [15:57] <hawk7998> it jsut sits there with a red x in the top left corner
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#2333 [15:57] <xales> hawk7998: Do you have Java installed?
#2334 [15:57] <hawk7998> yes i just updated it
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#2336 [15:58] <xales> Are you trying to play Classic or beta?
#2337 [15:58] <hawk7998> beta
#2338 [15:59] <xales> Try downloading it
#2339 [15:59] <hawk7998> but it was working fine yesterday thats why im confused
#2340 [15:59] <hawk7998> this is the first time this has happened
#2341 [15:59] <xales> Try downloading it
#2342 [15:59] <hawk7998> k
#2343 [16:00] <hawk7998> it says its a MIME file and windows doesnt recognise it
#2344 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Rename the file, add .exe to the end
#2345 [16:01] <hawk7998> i dnt know how to do that
#2346 [16:01] <hawk7998> :l
#2347 [16:02] <hawk7998> ugh i also got to go :l
#2348 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Right click on the file.
#2349 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Choose "Rename"
#2350 [16:02] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Most likely extensions are hidden for him.
#2351 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Had the Mime issue once before, turned out the file didn't even have the .exe extension
#2352 [16:02] <Morrolan> Oh well, he doesn't need help tehn I guess.
#2353 [16:03] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Well, yea.
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#2355 [16:03] <Morrolan> But I don't think you can add the .exe extension when they are hidden? Won't it just add it to the filename then
#2356 [16:03] <Morrolan> ?*
#2357 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> yes; if extensions are hidden and you add .foo to a file in Explorer, it will change its name to filename.foo.origianext
#2358 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> Because Windows is annoying like that.
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#2361 [16:04] <Morrolan> Yep, which is why we would have had to walk him through showing file extensions first.
#2362 [16:04] <Morrolan> And fuck netsplit
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#2378 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> If there is no original extension in the first place, it will likely work.
#2379 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> bleh
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#2381 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: true
#2382 [16:05] * VoxelHead kicked Vin from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: requested)
#2383 [16:05] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Could be.
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#2387 [16:05] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Oh, I would have just given him a link.
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#2389 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: no, I meant I'd rather not copulate with a netsplit
#2390 [16:06] <Morrolan> Ah. ^^
#2391 [16:06] <DopeGhoti> (even if I knew how)
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#2393 [16:06] <Morrolan> Well, you know about rule 34, right? Sooo.
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#2395 [16:07] <Morrolan> Though I have to admit that this netsplit was over fast.
#2396 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> Just because Rule 34 states that porn of it exists does not mean I have, or wish to have, seen such.
#2397 [16:09] <Morrolan> Sure, just meant that, according to that rule, there has to be a way of doing such.
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#2399 [16:09] <Morrolan> Anyway, let's change subject. ;)
#2400 [16:09] <Morrolan> Nice weather outside, eh?
#2401 [16:09] <xales> Not here :(
#2402 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> Indeed; I hope it might rain again today.
#2403 [16:09] <Morrolan> tbh it's night here.
#2404 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> that'd be nifty.
#2405 [16:10] <xales> !w 19096
#2406 [16:10] <xales> bleh
#2407 [16:10] <KukkiYuki> Doe anyone know why i can not change my skin?
#2408 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> !weather 19096
#2409 [16:10] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Havertown, Havertown, Pennsylvania (4:00p May 19 11) temp(64.5 F / 18.1 C) cond(Light Thunderstorms and Rain) wind(SE at 3.0 mph / 4.8 km/h) hu(86%) dewpnt(60 F / 16 C) bp(29.97 in / 1014.8 hPa (Rising)) clouds((FEW) : 3000 ft / 914 m, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 4000 ft / 1219 m, Overcast (OVC) : 7500 ft / 2286 m) vis(8.0 miles / 12.9 kilometers) uv(2 out of 16)
#2410 [16:10] <GreyBot> Tonight: Cloudy. Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms this evening...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds and small hail this evening. Lows in the mid 50s. West winds around 5 mph this evening...becoming light and variable. Chance of rain 60 percent.
#2411 [16:10] <GreyBot> Alert: Severe Thunderstorm Watch 307 in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening...
#2412 [16:10] <KukkiYuki> *does
#2413 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> ??> KukkiYuki smp/skins
#2414 [16:10] <xales> KukkiYuki: It works fine. The previewer doesn't however.
#2415 [16:10] <Morrolan> KukkiYuki: The skin preview doesn't work.
#2416 [16:10] <VoxelHead> KukkiYuki: (smp/skins) Not seeing your skin on the profile page is normal; uploading your site will work and your skin will show normally in-game. Check there.
#2417 [16:10] * w stabs xales
#2417 [16:10] <xales> Yeah
#2418 [16:10] <xales> "light thunderstorms" my ass
#2419 [16:10] <xales> it sounds like the sky is falling apart
#2420 [16:10] <xales> ._.
#2421 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> w: you're the one with a one-character nick. Your own fault, sir or ma'am or other.
#2422 [16:10] * DopeGhoti envies xales' weather
#2422 [16:11] * xales shares some noise with DopeGhoti
#2422 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> \o>
#2423 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> <o/
#2424 [16:11] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I want some exciting weather.
#2425 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> \o/
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#2427 [16:11] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :DopeGhoti: > = chicken arm?
#2428 [16:11] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :90 degree arm angles ftw!
#2429 [16:11] <hawk7998> downloading minecraft didnt help
#2430 [16:11] <KukkiYuki> Woah! Something seems to have gone wrong. We'll have a tinker with it momentarily, please check back again later. what does this mean?
#2431 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> "The skin upload didn't like the upgraded version of one of the libs. Will correct this, but first eat some food. TTYL."
#2432 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> From mollstam's twitter
#2433 [16:12] <hawk7998> grey
#2434 [16:12] <hawk7998> u told me to rename the fiels to sumthing
#2435 [16:12] <hawk7998> what was it again?
#2436 [16:13] <KukkiYuki> That mean just sit back and drink tea?
#2437 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Add ".exe" to the end hawk7998.
#2438 [16:13] <hawk7998> i did that and it didnt work
#2439 [16:13] <xales> What happens?
#2440 [16:13] <hawk7998> a loud noise
#2441 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> hawk7998 specific
#2442 [16:13] <hawk7998> hard to explain it
#2443 [16:13] <VoxelHead> hawk7998: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2444 [16:13] <VoxelHead> hawk7998: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2445 [16:13] <hawk7998> when i double click it
#2446 [16:13] <hawk7998> its not an error message
#2447 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> hawk7998 - How much RAM do you have on the system?
#2448 [16:13] <hawk7998> it wont even load the main page
#2449 [16:13] <KukkiYuki> i hope i can soon change my skin i buyed it today:3
#2450 [16:14] <hawk7998> i dnt know '
#2451 [16:14] <xales> ??> KukkiYuki smp/skins
#2452 [16:14] <VoxelHead> KukkiYuki: (smp/skins) Not seeing your skin on the profile page is normal; uploading your site will work and your skin will show normally in-game. Check there.
#2453 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> xales, the skin upload is borked right now
#2454 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> KukkiYuki: once the site is fixed, yes, you will be able to update your skin
#2455 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> mollstam's working on it
#2456 [16:14] <xales> Oh, it is? ._.
#2457 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> xales: pay attention buddy
#2458 [16:14] <hawk7998> voxelhead i dont get an error message because its not crashing it wont even load
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#2460 [16:14] <xales> hawk7998: Voxelhead is a bot, not a person
#2461 [16:14] <VoxelHead> hey!
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#2463 [16:14] <KukkiYuki> that is what i´am talking about dope
#2464 [16:14] <xales> ??> hawk7998 win/dxdiag
#2465 [16:14] <VoxelHead> hawk7998: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2466 [16:15] <VoxelHead> hawk7998: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#2470 [16:15] <KukkiYuki> is there any information how long they need to fix?
#2471 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> KukkiYuki: after the web guy has a tasty meal apparently
#2472 [16:15] <hawk7998> umm im kinda paranoid about doing all this because its my moms computer
#2473 [16:16] <hawk7998> she needs it for work
#2474 [16:16] <xales> hawk7998: It's just displaying information. It doesn't actually do anything.
#2475 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> who is kinda paranoid and why are you IMing them?
#2476 [16:16] <DJComet> Erm, anyone able to tell me why I was banned from #minecraft?
#2477 [16:16] <DJComet> [7:49:11pm] * You were kicked from #minecraft by xales (I like mass advertising too. So I'm just going to ban you.)
#2478 [16:16] <DJComet> I haven't even talked on there in months.
#2479 [16:16] <hawk7998> haha
#2480 [16:16] <xales> DJComet: A large number of people with names very similar to yours were mass-advertising
#2481 [16:16] <xales> I banned everyone with DJ*
#2482 [16:16] <xales> ._.
#2483 [16:16] <DJComet> :(
#2484 [16:16] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :...
#2485 [16:16] <xales> I can unban you, though
#2486 [16:16] <DJComet> Yeah, I mostly just lurk.
#2487 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> xales: I'll add an except
#2488 [16:16] <Morrolan> xales: His problem is that the file is missing the .exe extension
#2489 [16:16] <DJComet> They're all poser DJs.
#2490 [16:17] <Morrolan> So no need for a dxdiag I think. ;)
#2491 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - It's now just windows error beeping
#2492 [16:17] <Kealper> DJComet: are you the real deal? :o
#2493 [16:17] <KukkiYuki> When did he said that he is going to have a tasty meal?
#2494 [16:17] <hawk7998> so i click save all information right
#2495 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes hawk7998
#2496 [16:17] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Oh, ok. Sorry xales.
#2497 [16:17] <DJComet> Kealper: Yeah, I'm a real DJ, funny enough.
#2498 [16:17] <xales> DopeGhoti: no need, I just removed the ban
#2499 [16:17] <hawk7998> now what
#2500 [16:17] <DJComet> Most people who use the title DJ online don't even know how to, it's odd.
#2501 [16:17] <xales> DJComet: You can join now
#2502 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> exemption in place in case DJSpamster advertises again.
#2503 [16:17] <Morrolan> hawk: Upload it to pastebin.com
#2504 [16:18] <DJComet> xales: #mcchatter as well?
#2505 [16:18] <xales> DJComet: Sure
#2506 [16:18] <DJComet> Ah, great. Thank you. :)
#2507 [16:18] <xales> DJComet: You aren't banned from #mcchatter, or at least not that I see
#2508 [16:18] <DJComet> I'll have to look through my logs and see what went down around that time.
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#2510 [16:19] <xales> DJComet: https://gist.github.com/7e7e17bfd0cf4822f9eb
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#2512 [16:20] <DJComet> That's convenient. Thanks.
#2513 [16:20] <hawk7998> it wont paste
#2514 [16:20] <Kealper> LOL
#2515 [16:20] <Kealper> <@IdleRPG> Kealper stopped using dial-up! This wondrous godsend has accelerated them 0 days, 00:32:31 towards
#2516 [16:20] <Kealper> level 51.
#2517 [16:20] <Kealper> ugh, irssi
#2518 [16:21] <hawk7998> i right clicked on the pastebin and paste isnt one of the options
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#2520 [16:21] <xales> hawk7998: You go to http://pastebin.com/
#2521 [16:21] <hawk7998> yeah i did
#2522 [16:21] <xales> Then you paste it in the box
#2523 [16:21] <xales> and click the button
#2524 [16:21] <xales> then you give us the URL
#2525 [16:21] <hawk7998> it wont paste and there is no button
#2526 [16:21] <hawk7998> never mind\
#2527 [16:21] * lol Kealper.
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#2528 [16:22] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
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#2530 [16:22] <hawk7998> somebody could have told me the box was at the bottom of the screen
#2531 [16:22] <figaro> Uhhh i need some assistant
#2532 [16:22] <hawk7998> ok now what
#2533 [16:22] <figaro> s
#2534 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> figaro ask
#2535 [16:22] <VoxelHead> figaro: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#2536 [16:22] <VoxelHead> figaro: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2537 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> hawk7998 - Press the "Submit" button, and give us the URL
#2538 [16:22] <Morrolan> hawk: Now give us the link.
#2539 [16:22] <hawk7998> what url
#2540 [16:23] <mib_2vk7g2> my game looks like it is up too close. how do i fix it?
#2541 [16:23] <hawk7998> http://pastebin.com/LunspdT6 this one?
#2542 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2543 [16:23] <hawk7998> well there ya go
#2544 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> mib_2vk7g2: what do you mean exactly?
#2545 [16:23] <figaro> Oh okay i just got the minecraft game 4 days ago and when i dowloaded it i dont think i got the minecraft.jar file and im not sure what to do
#2546 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> figaro: what OS are you running?
#2547 [16:23] <mib_2vk7g2> like the screen size is the wrong size.
#2548 [16:23] <xales> mib_2vk7g2: Press F11
#2549 [16:24] <xales> hawk7998: That computer won't be able to run Minecraft
#2550 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> mib_2vk7g2: you can resize the Minecraft window just like any other window
#2551 [16:24] <hawk7998> its been running minecraft for over 6 months though
#2552 [16:24] <figaro> Umm what does OS mean? O.o
#2553 [16:24] <xales> figaro: Are you using Windows?
#2554 [16:24] <mib_2vk7g2> yes
#2555 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> figaro: operating system. Windows, for example, or Linux
#2556 [16:24] <hawk7998> figaro operating system is OS
#2557 [16:24] <figaro> Yes.
#2558 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> okay
#2559 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> !client
#2560 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> you have the wrong client; get the one ending in .exe
#2561 [16:24] <hawk7998> xales
#2562 [16:25] <hawk7998> ive been playing minecraft for awhile
#2563 [16:25] <xales> hawk7998: The browser one may work, the standalone one will not.
#2564 [16:25] <hawk7998> this is the first time that it hasnt worked
#2565 [16:25] <hawk7998> hte browser one wont work either
#2566 [16:25] <hawk7998> none of my minecraft things will work
#2567 [16:25] <xales> Try a different browser
#2568 [16:25] <hawk7998> i have the darrows minecraft share files as well and they wont work
#2569 [16:25] <Morrolan> hawk: Did you already reinstall Minecraft?
#2570 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> hawk7998: the what now?
#2571 [16:25] <hawk7998> how do u reinstall minecraft
#2572 [16:25] <hawk7998> what do u mean
#2573 [16:25] <xales> Ah, that
#2574 [16:26] <Morrolan> Windows?
#2575 [16:26] <xales> That's a pirated version
#2576 [16:26] <xales> hawk7998: Darrow's minecraft is an illegal version that lets you play without buying it
#2577 [16:26] <hawk7998> yeah i have the pirated and the legal
#2578 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> Step one: Buy the actual game.
#2579 [16:26] <hawk7998> i play hte legal one more
#2580 [16:26] <hawk7998> :D
#2581 [16:26] <Morrolan> ??> hawk7998 win/reinst
#2582 [16:26] <VoxelHead> hawk7998: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2583 [16:26] <VoxelHead> hawk7998: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2584 [16:26] <xales> We will not help you play it unless you demonstrate to us that you have bought it
#2585 [16:26] * mib_aj3os3 [mib_aj3os3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2586 [16:26] <hawk7998> dopeghoti i already have it bought
#2587 [16:26] <xales> hawk7998: With what username?
#2588 [16:26] <mib_aj3os3> hey
#2589 [16:26] <Morrolan> hey mib
#2590 [16:26] <xales> Hi.
#2591 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> then why would you want the pirated one still?
#2592 [16:27] <mib_aj3os3> :)
#2593 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> morning, mib_aj3os3
#2594 [16:27] <mib_aj3os3> moring :)
#2595 [16:27] <Morrolan> mib_aj3os3, mind changing your nickname? Cause you're alraedy the second mib_ in here now. :D
#2596 [16:27] <Morrolan> already*
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#2598 [16:27] <hawk7998> cuz
#2599 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> I am not your cousin.
#2600 [16:27] <xales> hawk7998: With what username did you buy Minecraft?
#2601 [16:27] <mib_aj3os3> ermm im haveing trouble with my minecraft launcher
#2602 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> mib_2vk7g2 - What problem/
#2603 [16:27] <hawk7998> it still ownt work
#2604 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_aj3os3 specific
#2605 [16:27] <VoxelHead> mib_aj3os3: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2606 [16:28] <VoxelHead> mib_aj3os3: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2607 [16:28] <xales> hawk7998: With what username did you buy Minecraft?
#2608 [16:28] <hawk7998> i didnt buy it my friend did
#2609 [16:28] <hawk7998> hawk7998 is the username
#2610 [16:28] <mib_aj3os3> when i load it up it says minecraft crashed and i cant play
#2611 [16:28] <hawk7998> when i load it it doesnt load at all
#2612 [16:28] <xales> mib_aj3os3: Is there an error message?
#2613 [16:28] <xales> hawk7998: That is because you are using a pirated version
#2614 [16:28] <mib_aj3os3> yep
#2615 [16:28] <mib_aj3os3> :(
#2616 [16:28] <hawk7998> it just sits there with a wite box surrounding tha page and im talkin about the browser one
#2617 [16:28] <xales> mib_aj3os3: Copy the error to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link
#2618 [16:28] <mib_aj3os3> i have a paid account
#2619 [16:28] <hawk7998> i already did taht xales
#2620 [16:29] <xales> hawk7998: As I've said, it's because you are using the pirated version
#2621 [16:29] <xales> You have to remove it.
#2622 [16:29] <hawk7998> NO IM NOT LISTEN'
#2623 [16:29] <hawk7998> jesus
#2624 [16:29] <hawk7998> 'why would i have to remove it?
#2625 [16:29] <xales> If it's even installed on your computer, then it will break Minecraft
#2626 [16:29] <oldtopman> hawk7998: WHat is your username?
#2627 [16:29] <xales> and...because it's illegal
#2628 [16:29] <hawk7998> ahawk7998 is the username
#2629 [16:29] <hawk7998> hawk7998*
#2630 [16:29] <mib_aj3os3> where can i just get the reall version guys
#2631 [16:29] <oldtopman> !paid hawk7998
#2632 [16:29] <mib_2vk7g2> what is the default screen resolution for minecraft?
#2633 [16:29] <hawk7998> i gtg guys
#2634 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> mib_aj3os3: www.minecraft.net/purchase.jsp
#2635 [16:30] <oldtopman> ??> mib_aj3os3 download
#2636 [16:30] <Morrolan> mib_2vk7g2, Don't think there is one. The GUI just scales up, and the rest, don't know.
#2637 [16:30] <oldtopman> ??> mib_aj3os3 mc/download
#2638 [16:30] <oldtopman> ...
#2639 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> oldtopman: I think you are looking for win/client
#2640 [16:30] <oldtopman> ??> mib_aj3os3 win/client
#2641 [16:30] <VoxelHead> mib_aj3os3: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#2642 [16:31] <oldtopman> DopeGhoti: Thanks.
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#2644 [16:31] <mib_2vk7g2> Ok... my problem is that i can only see half of the item im using
#2645 [16:31] <mib_aj3os3> www.minecraft.net/purchase.jsp does not work for me
#2646 [16:31] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraft.net/prepurchase.jsp
#2647 [16:31] <Morrolan> it is
#2648 [16:32] <Morrolan> When not logged in atleast.
#2649 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: they should 301 that or something (:
#2650 [16:32] <xales> mib_aj3os3: What do you mean "real version?"
#2651 [16:32] <Morrolan> Yea.
#2652 [16:33] <mib_aj3os3> i have fake version and real account
#2653 [16:33] <Morrolan> So, you want to buy it?
#2654 [16:33] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :He has a cracked version and a legit version.
#2655 [16:33] <Morrolan> In this case go to the URL I posted some lines above.
#2656 [16:33] <mib_2vk7g2> I can only see half of the item i am using. is there a way to fix this?
#2657 [16:33] <xales> mib_aj3os3: What account?
#2658 [16:33] <Morrolan> mib_2vk7g2, Never seen that before.
#2659 [16:33] <mib_aj3os3> im sure i have the real version but im just haveing a bad isssion
#2660 [16:33] <mib_2vk7g2> :(
#2661 [16:34] <mib_aj3os3> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 5/19/11 9:
#2662 [16:34] <mib_aj3os3> :P lol
#2663 [16:34] <Morrolan> Paste the whole error on pastebin.com
#2664 [16:34] <xales> mib_2vk7g2: Does it look like this? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7950795/DESKTOPS/smilo/Screenshot13.png
#2665 [16:35] <mib_2vk7g2> no. i know what it is supposed to look like
#2666 [16:35] <mib_2vk7g2> i can only see half of the boxes
#2667 [16:35] <xales> Care to take a screenshot?
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#2669 [16:35] <mib_2vk7g2> like the inventory boxes
#2670 [16:36] <xales> Can you take a screenshot?
#2671 [16:36] <mib_aj3os3> my username is mrwamster
#2672 [16:36] <mib_2vk7g2> K HOLD ON.
#2673 [16:36] <mib_aj3os3> it aint working for me
#2674 [16:36] <mib_2vk7g2> sorry caps
#2675 [16:36] <mib_2vk7g2> lol
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#2678 [16:36] <xales> mib_aj3os3: Please copy the error to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link.
#2679 [16:37] <mib_aj3os3> i dont have a accoutn on it
#2680 [16:37] <mib_2vk7g2> how do i post the pic?
#2681 [16:37] <Morrolan> mib_2vk7g2, upload it to imgur.com or similar
#2682 [16:37] <xales> mib_aj3os3: You don't need an account. Just paste into the box and click the buttom...
#2683 [16:38] <Morrolan> Oh, can't one of you change his nick? It's getting really confusing. ^^
#2684 [16:38] <Yatzee> lol
#2685 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: just filter out the mib_ part; aj30s3 is quite different from 2xk7g2. (:
#2686 [16:38] <mib_aj3os3> i put it in the massive box now what ?
#2687 [16:39] <xales> mib_aj3os3: Click the button, and give us the link it sends you to
#2688 [16:39] <figaro> i opened the thing (http://Minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip) Now What?
#2689 [16:39] <xales> figaro: That is the wrong file.
#2690 [16:39] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: I'm not a computer. :p
#2691 [16:39] <xales> ??> figaro win/client
#2692 [16:39] <VoxelHead> figaro: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#2693 [16:39] <mib_aj3os3> what button theres no button dude
#2694 [16:39] <mib_aj3os3> :O
#2695 [16:39] <Morrolan> mib_aj3os3, scroll down, there's a button called "submit"
#2696 [16:39] <xales> mib_aj3os3: The giant button that says SUBMIT...
#2697 [16:40] <mib_2vk7g2> xales how did you send that pic?
#2698 [16:40] <xales> mib_2vk7g2: As Morrolan said, with imgur.com or similar
#2699 [16:40] <mib_aj3os3> done
#2700 [16:40] <Morrolan> mib_2vk7g2, upload it to www.imgur.com , still
#2701 [16:40] <xales> mib_aj3os3: Now, give us the link it sends you to
#2702 [16:40] <Morrolan> The one you see in the address bar of your browser.
#2703 [16:41] <mib_aj3os3> it just has to boxes full of the same thing i typed
#2704 [16:41] <Yatzee> remote desktop would be faster i think....
#2705 [16:41] <Morrolan> mib_aj3os3, yea, give us the LINK which is in tha ADRESS BAR of your BROWSER. ;)
#2706 [16:42] <figaro> Okay Thanks! and also if i wanted to dowload a texture pack what should i save it as? (Like it said to try under the app paint)
#2707 [16:43] <Morrolan> figaro: Just keep it as a .zip and put it in the folder.
#2708 [16:43] <Morrolan> in the texture pack folder*
#2709 [16:43] <figaro> K thanks.
#2710 [16:43] <mib_aj3os3> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 5/19/11 9:32 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.5_01 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_24, Sun
#2711 [16:43] <mib_aj3os3> is all it says
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#2713 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 5/19/11 9:32 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.5_01 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_24, Sun
#2714 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Is all we see
#2715 [16:44] <Kealper> Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
#2716 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> It is obviously not all of the error log
#2717 [16:44] <mib_aj3os3> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 5/19/11
#2718 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Please use http://www.pastebin.com
#2719 [16:45] <xales> mib_aj3os3: You have to give us the link
#2720 [16:45] <xales> from pastebin
#2721 [16:45] <Morrolan> mib: mib_aj3os3: This is the link you have to give us: http://i.imgur.com/7xIbz.jpg
#2722 [16:45] * xales introduces Morrolan to AdBlock
#2722 [16:46] <mib_aj3os3> i have due
#2723 [16:46] <mib_aj3os3> dude
#2724 [16:46] <Morrolan> Xales: Why should I block ads? They're what keep these sites alive.
#2725 [16:46] <xales> No, you havven't
#2726 [16:46] <xales> Morrolan: As far as the sites care, you still see the ads :)
#2727 [16:46] <Kealper> Morrolan: that's why i whitelist websites that i like :3
#2728 [16:46] <Kealper> (reddit.com, etc)
#2729 [16:46] <Morrolan> Xales: You know, as long as they don't pop up or play sounds I'm fine with them. :)
#2730 [16:47] <DopeGhoti> Sadly, that is getting increasingly common
#2731 [16:47] <Morrolan> Yea.
#2732 [16:47] <Kealper> tell that to news sites...those have more ads than they do content without an adblocker ._.
#2733 [16:47] <xales> mib_aj3os3: No, you haven't
#2734 [16:47] <DopeGhoti> Also, I am not a fan of how pop-up ads are suddenly okay again just because they don't spawn a new actual browser window
#2735 [16:47] <DopeGhoti> </rant>
#2736 [16:47] <xales> You pasted the error, NOT the link to it
#2737 [16:48] * mib_g4eidz [mib_g4eidz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2738 [16:48] <mib_aj3os3> what link
#2739 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> The link to the page
#2740 [16:48] <xales> mib_aj3os3: ...the link from Pastebin
#2741 [16:48] <DopeGhoti> I'm even okay with some interstitial ads, but goddammit, don't frelling oberlay the content with a frelling ad I have to manually dismiss.
#2742 [16:48] <Morrolan> mib_aj3os3, take a look at this image: http://i.imgur.com/7xIbz.jpg
#2743 [16:48] <DopeGhoti> okay, really </rant> now.
#2744 [16:48] <Morrolan> This is the link we'd like to see, just from your paste.
#2745 [16:49] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: +1
#2746 [16:49] <mib_g4eidz> why cant my launcher connect t ominecraft.net
#2747 [16:49] <xales> mib_g4eidz: Make sure the time and date on your computer are correct. Especially the year.
#2748 [16:49] <Morrolan> mib_g4eidz, can you visit www.minecraft.net in your browser?
#2749 [16:49] <mib_g4eidz> why are?
#2750 [16:49] <mib_g4eidz> nope
#2751 [16:49] <xales> Why what?
#2752 [16:49] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: the year is part of the date.
#2753 [16:49] <xales> Oh, nevermind
#2754 [16:50] <xales> DopeGhoti: Who said it wasn't? :)
#2755 [16:50] <Morrolan> mib_g4eidz, so you can't visit it in your browser?
#2756 [16:50] <mib_g4eidz> i no i cant it wont load in the brower
#2757 [16:50] <Morrolan> Do you have bought the game?
#2758 [16:50] <mib_g4eidz> i have. but cuold never get on it from the launcher
#2759 [16:51] <mib_aj3os3> http://pastebin.com/27bPar0v
#2760 [16:51] <figaro> The texture pack i am trying to get is atomatically saving as a 'paint' file. How can i stop that?
#2761 [16:51] <xales> figaro: Can you give us a link to it?
#2762 [16:51] <Kealper> ...
#2763 [16:51] <Morrolan> mib_g4eidz, Ok, what is your Minecraft username?
#2764 [16:51] <mib_aj3os3> mine
#2765 [16:51] <mib_g4eidz> PangaMan
#2766 [16:51] <figaro> http://www.mediafire.com/file/5qqxry7kr ... LOWERS.rar
#2767 [16:51] <Kealper> mib_aj3os3: that just says testepaste
#2768 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> !paid PangaMan
#2769 [16:51] <xales> mib_aj3os3: We want that link from when YOU pasted it
#2770 [16:51] <Morrolan> Ok then, mib_g4eidz, are you on windows?
#2771 [16:52] <mib_g4eidz> yes
#2772 [16:52] <mib_g4eidz> windows 7
#2773 [16:52] <xales> figaro: Can you link us to where you found it?
#2774 [16:52] <xales> ??> mib_g4eidz win/hosts
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#2776 [16:52] <VoxelHead> mib_g4eidz: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2777 [16:52] <Morrolan> ??> mib_g4eidz win/hosts
#2778 [16:52] <VoxelHead> mib_g4eidz: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2779 [16:52] <Morrolan> xales, you ninja. :(
#2780 [16:52] <figaro> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/23465-dokus-rpg-texture-pack-v12-released-0909/\
#2781 [16:52] <Kealper> ok i have a serious request right now, so listen up!
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#2783 [16:52] <xales> figaro: That's far too old...it won't work with newer Minecraft versiosn
#2784 [16:53] <Kealper> if you are using mibbit right now, type /nick MibUser
#2785 [16:53] <Kealper> and then press enter
#2786 [16:53] <mib_aj3os3> /nick MibUser
#2787 [16:53] <figaro> Oh okay well then il try something else :)
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#2789 [16:53] <xales> mib_aj3os3: Without a space in front of it...
#2790 [16:53] <Morrolan> mib_aj3os3, without the space in front
#2791 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> without the space. All together now!
#2792 [16:53] <hawk7998> i deleted the darrows minecraft version and it still wont work
#2793 [16:53] <mib_aj3os3> /nickMibUser
#2794 [16:53] * Kealper kicked mib_aj3os3 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mib_aj3os3)
#2795 [16:53] <Morrolan> Xales, you are doing this deliberately, yea?
#2796 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> hawk7998 - You're on windows, correct?
#2797 [16:54] <xales> Doing what deliberately...? ._.
#2798 [16:54] <hawk7998> windows xp
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#2800 [16:54] <Morrolan> Ninjaing me all the time. :D
#2801 [16:54] <xales> Of course!
#2802 [16:54] <mib_g4eidz> where will i paste the info from the notepad doc?? in ther?
#2803 [16:54] <xales> I practice every morning
#2804 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> hawk7998 - Could you head to your start menu, go to the run command, and type in: %appdata%
#2805 [16:54] <xales> mib_g4eidz: http://pastebin.com/
#2806 [16:54] <Morrolan> Yeah, I thought so. :(
#2807 [16:54] <DopeGhoti> well, I took the day off, so someone had to fill the ninja role.
#2808 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Delete the ".minecraft" folder from there hawk7998
#2809 [16:54] <hawk7998> yeah then what
#2810 [16:54] <hawk7998> delete it entirely?
#2811 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Then redowload the minecraft client, and redownload it, fresh from the minecraft.net site
#2812 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes hawk7998
#2813 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> er, delete and redownload*
#2814 [16:55] <hawk7998> do i have to delete it from recycleing bin
#2815 [16:55] <Morrolan> Nope.
#2816 [16:55] <mib_g4eidz> i dont hav an account for paste bin
#2817 [16:55] <Morrolan> mib_g4eidz, you don't need one.
#2818 [16:55] <Morrolan> You can paste things as a guest jus as well.
#2819 [16:55] <xales> mib_g4eidz: You do not need an account for pastebin. Just paste it in the box and click submit
#2820 [16:55] <Morrolan> just*
#2821 [16:55] <Morrolan> haha!
#2822 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> hawk7998 - No
#2823 [16:55] <hawk7998> ok
#2824 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> hawk7998 - Just delete the .minecraft folder from %appdata%
#2825 [16:56] <hawk7998> i did
#2826 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Did you download a fresh minecraft.exe from minecraft.net?
#2827 [16:56] <hawk7998> i also deleted (2).minecraft
#2828 [16:56] <hawk7998> im doin taht now
#2829 [16:56] <mib_g4eidz> ok tanx. heres the info http://pastebin.com/Tvvh2Ri1
#2830 [16:56] <figaro> http://www.mediafire.com/?3juvp8l6fj8g2d3 Is this texture pack up to date. And what should i click to save it.
#2831 [16:56] <mib_g4eidz> what is it?
#2832 [16:56] <xales> figaro: Give us the forum link, please
#2833 [16:57] <xales> mib_g4eidz: Is there more than one file called hosts there?
#2834 [16:57] <figaro> [url=http://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/jadecraft/][img]http://www.planetminecraft.com/files/resource_media/screenshot/1120/jadecraft_53713_thumb.jpg[/img] [b]View JADE-Craft (OVER 600 DOWNLOADS!!!)[/b][/url]\
#2835 [16:57] <hawk7998> grey its stuck on 0% but halfway loaded in the loading bar
#2836 [16:57] <mib_g4eidz> theres one calld imhots?
#2837 [16:58] <xales> mib_g4eidz: Give us that too
#2838 [16:58] <xales> figaro: That should work. Open Minecraft, and click the texture packs option, then the open folder button
#2839 [16:58] <xales> put the .zip file there
#2840 [16:58] <xales> ??> hawk7998 win/hosts
#2841 [16:58] <VoxelHead> hawk7998: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2842 [16:58] <VoxelHead> hawk7998: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2843 [16:59] <figaro> I know how to do that. but i dont know how to save it to that file. :(
#2844 [16:59] <xales> figaro: Click the link, and click "save file"
#2845 [16:59] <xales> then go to your downloads folder and drag it there
#2846 [16:59] <mib_g4eidz> what is th info im giving u ? why do u need it ?
#2847 [16:59] <xales> mib_g4eidz: It is information about how your computer looks up IP addresses, and it tells us what the problem is
#2848 [17:00] <hawk7998> ok its done downloading
#2849 [17:00] <hawk7998> AND STILL
#2850 [17:00] <hawk7998> WONT
#2851 [17:00] <hawk7998> WORK
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#2853 [17:00] <xales> Follow the instructions that Voxelhead gave you.
#2854 [17:01] <hawk7998> rawr
#2855 [17:01] <Kealper> wordstealer
#2856 [17:01] <mib_g4eidz> ok . heres the link http://pastebin.com/Js0CLk4a
#2857 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> That's LMHOSTS.
#2858 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> We're asking for HOSTS
#2859 [17:01] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: He already posted it, empty
#2860 [17:02] <Morrolan> mib_g4eidz> ok tanx. heres the info http://pastebin.com/Tvvh2Ri1
#2861 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#2862 [17:02] <figaro> AHHH JOLLY GOOD THANK YOU!!!
#2863 [17:02] <xales> mib_g4eidz: Is that the only other hosts fils there?
#2864 [17:02] <mib_g4eidz> yes
#2865 [17:02] <xales> Okay.
#2866 [17:02] <Morrolan> mib_g4eidz, what exactly do you get when trying to connect to minecraft.net in your browser? What error I mean?
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#2868 [17:03] <mib_g4eidz> i try connect thu the lancher and i get the error Cant connect to minecraft.net
#2869 [17:04] <Morrolan> Well, I'm off for today, have a nice day everyone.
#2870 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> mib_g4eidz: what is the date on your computer
#2871 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> ciao, Morrolan
#2872 [17:04] <mib_g4eidz> 19/05/2011
#2873 [17:04] <mib_g4eidz> todays date?
#2874 [17:04] <Kealper> yes
#2875 [17:05] <xales> mib_g4eidz: Press the windows key and the R key
#2876 [17:05] <xales> type "cmd"
#2877 [17:05] <xales> and click run
#2878 [17:05] <xales> then type "ping minecraft.net" and hit enter
#2879 [17:05] <xales> it will say "pinging Minecraft.net [xx.xx.xx.xx]"
#2880 [17:05] <xales> can you write here the xx.xx.xx.xx
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#2882 [17:08] <mib_g4eidz> [50.16.203.217]
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#2884 [17:09] <xales> Do you have any firewall programs running?
#2885 [17:09] <mib_h25r3b> Whenever I am playing and i look away then back again everything has to render again. Is this a problem with the game or my video card?
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#2887 [17:09] <xales> mib_h25r3b: That's normal, I think.
#2888 [17:10] <mib_q94skh> i am having trouble starting the game...
#2889 [17:10] <xales> ?? specific
#2890 [17:10] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2891 [17:10] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2892 [17:10] <mib_q94skh> i got the game up and it wont complete oading
#2893 [17:10] <mib_q94skh> its been up for 10 mins
#2894 [17:10] <mib_g4eidz> im not sure
#2895 [17:11] <xales> ??> mib_q94skh win/reinst
#2896 [17:11] <VoxelHead> mib_q94skh: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2897 [17:11] <mib_q94skh> its stuck at like 98% and not moving
#2898 [17:11] <VoxelHead> mib_q94skh: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2899 [17:11] <mib_h25r3b> No i mean EVERYTHING has to load. even the things right next to me
#2900 [17:11] <xales> mib_g4eidz: Can you check?
#2901 [17:11] <xales> mib_h25r3b: Are you using any mods?
#2902 [17:11] <mib_g4eidz> how do i check?
#2903 [17:11] <mib_q94skh> thanx
#2904 [17:11] <mib_h25r3b> Nope
#2905 [17:12] <xales> Look at the icons in the notification area (bottom right_
#2906 [17:12] <xales> mib_h25r3b: What version of Minecraft?
#2907 [17:12] <mib_h25r3b> beta 1.5_01
#2908 [17:13] <mib_g4eidz> how can i Check my firewall
#2909 [17:13] <xales> As I said
#2910 [17:13] <xales> 17:11:51 <@xales> Look at the icons in the notification area (bottom right_
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#2912 [17:14] <mib_g4eidz> the only thing i can find is my norton icon
#2913 [17:14] <xales> Norton is a firewall.
#2914 [17:15] <xales> Open it, and disable the firewall.
#2915 [17:15] <mib_g4eidz> it has a ton of firewall setings
#2916 [17:15] <mib_g4eidz> there is no real off botton ?
#2917 [17:16] <mib_g4eidz> just so much crap?
#2918 [17:17] <mib_g4eidz> there is a smart firewall on off thimg. could that be it??
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#2920 [17:17] <Kealper> mib_g4eidz: could be, try turning it off
#2921 [17:18] <mib_g4eidz> turn it off and try the minecraft again?
#2922 [17:18] <Kealper> yes
#2923 [17:19] <mib_h25r3b> is this problem normal or no?
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#2925 [17:19] <mib_g4eidz> if that doesnt work is there anything i can try
#2926 [17:19] <xales> mib_h25r3b: How much RAM does your computer have?
#2927 [17:19] <xales> mib_g4eidz: Completely disabling Norton, uninstalling Norton...
#2928 [17:20] <mib_h25r3b> How do I check?
#2929 [17:20] <mib_g4eidz> fml... so if it not that?
#2930 [17:20] <mib_h25r3b> Wait hold on i think i know
#2931 [17:20] <xales> mib_g4eidz: It's that.
#2932 [17:21] <Kealper> 90% of the time, if Norton is involved, it's that
#2933 [17:21] <mib_q94skh> when i try to download the microsoft folder... a security warning pops up
#2934 [17:21] <mib_h25r3b> 3701MB RAM
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#2937 [17:21] <mib_g4eidz> tanx for all the help guys. i g2g. il giv it a try later. tanx agn
#2938 [17:21] <xales> mib_gmu43h: Microsoft folder?
#2939 [17:22] <mib_q94skh> the minecraft.exe
#2940 [17:22] <Adraen> If you have windows XP try to telnet to the server see if it goes through else if you have vista/7 download netcat and test with it
#2941 [17:22] <xales> ??> mib_h25r3b win/reinst
#2942 [17:22] <VoxelHead> mib_h25r3b: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2943 [17:22] <mib_h25r3b> sorry 3072MB RAM
#2944 [17:22] <VoxelHead> mib_h25r3b: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2945 [17:22] <mib_q94skh> to dwnload
#2946 [17:22] <xales> mib_g4eidz: Where are you downloading minecraft.exe from?
#2947 [17:22] <mib_h25r3b> I did that before
#2948 [17:22] * mib_zp5vdf [mib_zp5vdf@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2949 [17:22] <mib_q94skh> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2950 [17:22] <mib_g4eidz> minecraft.mte
#2951 [17:22] <mib_g4eidz> 8.net
#2952 [17:23] <xales> sorry, wrong one
#2953 [17:23] <mib_g4eidz> argh .net :)
#2954 [17:23] <xales> mib_q94skh: What program showed the security warning?
#2955 [17:23] <mib_zp5vdf> Can anyone help me out?
#2956 [17:23] <mib_gmu43h> when i install the game and play it loads for half a sec then the screen goes black. any ideas?
#2957 [17:23] <xales> mib_zp5vdf: With?
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#2959 [17:23] <xales> ??> mib_gmu43h win/reinst
#2960 [17:23] <VoxelHead> mib_gmu43h: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2961 [17:23] <VoxelHead> mib_gmu43h: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2963 [17:24] <mib_zp5vdf> I just bought the game and im trying to play it on the browser, but it says my computer has a bad video card, I tried to update but it didnt do anything
#2964 [17:24] <mib_q94skh> it asks if i want to find a file to opn it or save it
#2965 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_zp5vdf - How are you trying to update it?
#2966 [17:24] <xales> mib_q94skh: Save it
#2967 [17:24] <mib_reej4o> is MineCraft crashed right now?
#2968 [17:24] <mib_q94skh> where
#2969 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_reej4o Nope
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#2971 [17:24] <mib_zp5vdf> through control panel then I go to my cards section click on the video one and check for update
#2972 [17:25] <alexwjones77> I just downloaded the game and when I click on the download and click "run" the error message "Could not create java virtual machine" pops up.
#2973 [17:25] <xales> mib_zp5vdf: That's not the correct way to check for updates
#2974 [17:25] <xales> alexwjones77: How much RAM does your computer have?
#2975 [17:25] <mib_zp5vdf> how do I do it then?
#2976 [17:25] <xales> mib_zp5vdf: What video card do you have?
#2977 [17:25] <alexwjones77> how do I find out how much RAM it has?
#2978 [17:25] <mib_zp5vdf> uhh how do I check that (just wanna be sure)
#2979 [17:25] <xales> alexwjones77: Right-click on Comptuer, and go to properties. I twill tell you there
#2980 [17:25] <mib_reej4o> ... Mine says it is?
#2981 [17:26] <xales> mib_reej4o: What, exactly, does it say?
#2982 [17:26] <xales> ??> mib_zp5vdf win/reinst
#2983 [17:26] <xales> err
#2984 [17:26] <VoxelHead> mib_zp5vdf: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2985 [17:26] <xales> sorry
#2986 [17:26] <xales> ignore that
#2987 [17:26] <VoxelHead> mib_zp5vdf: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2988 [17:26] <xales> ._.
#2989 [17:26] <xales> ??> mib_zp5vdf win/dxdiag
#2990 [17:26] <VoxelHead> mib_zp5vdf: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#2991 [17:26] <xales> The second one. .___.
#2992 [17:26] <VoxelHead> mib_zp5vdf: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#2993 [17:26] <alexwjones77> 2.99GB of RAM
#2994 [17:26] <xales> alexwjones77: Reinstall Java
#2995 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> alexwjones77 - I'd look into uninstalling and reinstalling java
#2996 [17:26] <mib_q94skh> ok file is saved on my computer now what?
#2997 [17:26] <alexwjones77> Okay i'll give it a shot
#2998 [17:27] <xales> mib_q94skh: Double click on it
#2999 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Can you people using mibbit, use the /nick command to change to a different nickname?
#3000 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> It would be a lot more helpful to distinguish between you all
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#3002 [17:28] <mib_q94skh> DUSTIN- now it asks what program i want to open it with
#3003 [17:28] <mib_reej4o> After the MOJANG sign a messege comes up saying "MineCraft has crashed! Error a1dec578" it wont let me copy the entire thing
#3004 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_reej4o - Could you screenshot it? Upload it to imgur.com
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#3006 [17:30] <mib_reej4o> After i click to go back to this tab and then back to in the box where the game whould be showing is the image from here... If that makes sense
#3007 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_reej4o - Could you give us a screenshot of the error if you can't copy it?
#3008 [17:31] <xales> mib_q94skh: You downloaded the wrong file then
#3009 [17:31] <xales> ??> mib_q94skh win/client
#3010 [17:31] <VoxelHead> mib_q94skh: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#3011 [17:31] <Pix> Does anyone know why i keep getting a -"console" is unidentified - error on the ~/prepurchase.jsp page ?
#3012 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Pix - Can't say what we've seen or heard of that, could you give us a screenshot of it?
#3013 [17:32] <mib_q94skh> ok thanx voxelhead
#3014 [17:32] <alexwjones77> okay, uninstalling and reinstalling java did not work
#3015 [17:32] <Pix> GreyVulpine payment options should be selectable right?
#3016 [17:33] <Pix> methods*
#3017 [17:33] <mib_q94skh> now i am at the launcher
#3018 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Yes Pix
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#3020 [17:33] <mib_q94skh> do i jsut sign and and play
#3021 [17:33] <xales> alexwjones77: Do you have any antivirus/other "security" software installed?
#3022 [17:33] <xales> mib_q94skh: Yes.
#3023 [17:33] <Pix> Well that error makes them unable to be selected.
#3024 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> mib_q94skh - Yes
#3025 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Pix - Strange, try a different browser?
#3026 [17:33] <Pix> First thing i did was that
#3027 [17:34] <Pix> tried it on ie/ff/gc
#3028 [17:34] <alexwjones77> I think I have Avast! on my computer but it's not on the bar at the bottom so i don't think it's active at the moment
#3029 [17:34] <Pix> same effect everywhere
#3030 [17:34] <mib_q94skh> downloading packages...
#3031 [17:34] <xales> Pix: Can you give us a screenshot?
#3032 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Pix - I'm not getting that at all, hmm.
#3033 [17:35] <Pix> Sure, give me a moment
#3034 [17:35] <xales> alexwjones77: Go to Start -> Run -> type cmd and click run
#3035 [17:35] <xales> also, make sure that Minecraft.exe is on your desktop
#3036 [17:35] <xales> then, in the cmd box, type "Desktop/Minecraft.exe"
#3037 [17:35] <xales> and hit enter (don't include the quotes)
#3038 [17:35] <mib_q94skh> i it normal for downloading pakages to take a while when just opened?
#3039 [17:35] <xales> mib_q94skh: Yes
#3040 [17:36] <mib_q94skh> ok, because i am only at about 5%
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#3042 [17:36] <xales> It depends on your internet connection
#3043 [17:36] <alexwjones77> it says "desktop" is not recognized as an internal or external command
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#3045 [17:36] <xales> oh, sorry
#3046 [17:36] <xales> "Desktop\Minecraft.exe"
#3047 [17:36] <xales> I forgot that Windows uses backslashes ._.
#3048 [17:37] <Agbdmj119> I have a major problem with my minecraft may anybody help?
#3049 [17:37] <mib_zp5vdf> ok th redownloading thing didnt work, and I am very lost with the pastebin thing
#3050 [17:37] <xales> Agbdmj119: Only if you tell us what the problem is
#3051 [17:37] <jasper> Hi. i was on there earlyr. tryed turning off my firewall but it didnt work
#3052 [17:37] <Agbdmj119> Xales: :P
#3053 [17:37] <alexwjones77> Darn, it said the same thing even with the backslash...
#3054 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_zp5vdf - If you get an error, copy it, go to http://www.pastebin.com
#3055 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_zp5vdf - Paste it there, then give us the URL to the page
#3056 [17:37] <xales> alexwjones77: Are you on XP or vista/7?
#3057 [17:38] <alexwjones77> XP
#3058 [17:38] <xales> okay
#3059 [17:38] <xales> type "java -Xmx512M -jar Desktop\Minecraft.exe"
#3060 [17:38] <xales> jasper: Has it _ever_ worked>
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#3062 [17:38] <jasper> no
#3063 [17:39] <jasper> i payd for the game and could never sign in
#3064 [17:39] <quibbit> what do i do to increase my pixel format acceleration
#3065 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - Update video drivers
#3066 [17:39] <xales> quibbit: Update your video card driver
#3067 [17:39] <alexwjones77> it said "Unable to access jarfile Desktop\Minecraft.exe
#3068 [17:39] <quibbit> how
#3069 [17:39] <xales> alexwjones77: Did you put Minecraft.exe on your desktop?
#3070 [17:39] <quibbit> how can i do that without paying
#3071 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - Do you know what video card you have?
#3072 [17:39] <xales> ??> quibbit win/dxdiag
#3073 [17:39] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3074 [17:39] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3075 [17:39] <alexwjones77> yes it's there
#3076 [17:40] <xales> quibbit: It doesn't cost money.
#3077 [17:40] <quibbit> how do i update my vidio driver for free?
#3078 [17:40] <xales> We will tell you how. Just follow the instructions that VoxelHead just gave you
#3079 [17:40] <mib_zp5vdf> http://pastebin.com/bgNJzbNA
#3080 [17:40] <Agbdmj119> 1. when im in a server it takes forever for my comments to post 2. when i destroy a block it Appears and then after 5 minutes it disappears 3. when i place a block it disappears and then reappears after 5 minutes 4. when i try to open a chest or workshop it takes 10 minutes but ill be WAY away from it 5. it randomly respawns me back to places
#3081 [17:40] <xales> Agbdmj119: http://speedtest.net/ run the test and give us the results
#3082 [17:41] <quibbit> i have radeon x 1300/ 1500
#3083 [17:41] <Agbdmj119> Xales already did
#3084 [17:41] <xales> mib_zp5vdf: You need to update your video card drivers
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#3086 [17:41] <xales> Agbdmj119: And they were?
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#3088 [17:41] <Agbdmj119> 10Mp 9.5 download speed and like 55ms?
#3089 [17:41] <xales> quibbit: What OS?
#3090 [17:41] <mib_zp5vdf> how do I update them
#3091 [17:41] <xales> ??> mib_zp5vdf win/dxdiag
#3092 [17:41] <VoxelHead> mib_zp5vdf: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3093 [17:41] <VoxelHead> mib_zp5vdf: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3094 [17:41] <quibbit> ok can i have the instruction on more tiem for how to update my vidio card
#3095 [17:41] <xales> Agbdmj119: Try a different server?
#3096 [17:42] <xales> ??>> quibbit win/dxdiag
#3097 [17:42] <Agbdmj119> but xales the weird thing is that it happened right after i downloaded the new Update
#3098 [17:42] <Agbdmj119> xales ive been to ALOT of servers
#3099 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - If you give us your dxdiag, we can tell you what video card you have, and how to update them
#3100 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Just follow the directions vox gives you
#3101 [17:42] <xales> Agbdmj119: Try disabling any firewall/"Internet security" software you have
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#3103 [17:42] <Agbdmj119> Xales ill try that and report back
#3104 [17:43] <jasper> xales do you know what else i can try? turning off the firewall didnt work?
#3105 [17:43] <alexwjones77> xales, minecraft.exe is on my desktop
#3106 [17:43] <mib_zp5vdf> http://pastebin.com/yU2sQHdt
#3107 [17:43] <Pix> GreyVulpine http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l140/pixistyle/checkout.png
#3108 [17:43] <Pix> There, nothing is selectable
#3109 [17:44] <Agbdmj119> Xales, also none of this happens in single player
#3110 [17:44] <xales> mib_zp5vdf: Install this - http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx
#3111 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Pix - Hmm, have you tried clearing your browser's cache, updating your browser.
#3112 [17:44] <quibbit> hoqw do i find my dxdiag
#3113 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> quibbit -
#3114 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#3115 [17:44] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3116 [17:44] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3117 [17:44] <xales> alexwjones77: Make a new user account on your computer, and see if it works there
#3118 [17:44] <Pix> GreyVulpine i have, and it suprised me that it happened in 3 different browsers with exactly the same effect
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#3120 [17:45] <alexwjones77> okay, will do
#3121 [17:45] <xales> ??> jasper win/profile
#3122 [17:45] <VoxelHead> jasper: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3123 [17:45] <VoxelHead> jasper: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3124 [17:45] <quibbit> what box?
#3125 [17:45] <Agbdmj119> Xales, i think it made it worse
#3126 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - What do you mean?
#3127 [17:46] * mib_d6kh37 [mib_d6kh37@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3128 [17:46] <xales> quibbit: The box that appears when you prexx Win + R..
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#3130 [17:46] <mib_d6kh37> My mincecraft installer says Minecraft is crashed!?
#3131 [17:46] <Agbdmj119> Ive tried reinstalling java and minecraft resgistry cleaners etc
#3132 [17:46] <jasper> would useing my guest account i alrdy have work?
#3133 [17:46] <xales> Agbdmj119: If you can wait, it should be fixed next week with 1.6...it's a problem where too many packets are sent to your computer
#3134 [17:46] <xales> ??> mib_d6kh37 specific
#3135 [17:46] <VoxelHead> mib_d6kh37: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#3136 [17:46] <VoxelHead> mib_d6kh37: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#3137 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Pix - Um. There's something wonky with your browser(s) then.
#3138 [17:46] <xales> jasper: Yes
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#3140 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Pix - I'm not getting that error, and nobody's reported that error here.
#3141 [17:47] <jasper> ok thanks.....hope im not back lol. tanx agn
#3142 [17:47] <mib_9ihsaw> when i start up and log in it wont let me and says im not a premium member
#3143 [17:47] <Agbdmj119> Xales, That sucks i was hoping to play it this week ):
#3144 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_9ihsaw - Did you pay for minecraft?
#3145 [17:47] <mib_q94skh> still downloading packages, and hasn't moved
#3146 [17:47] <mib_9ihsaw> i did beta
#3147 [17:47] <mib_q94skh> is this bad?
#3148 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_9ihsaw - Are you sure you're using the right username when you first bought minecraft?
#3149 [17:48] <xales> mib_q94skh: Close it and try again
#3150 [17:48] <mib_d6kh37> after i try to load in browser it gets to the MOJANG screen and then it changes to a message that i cant copy but it says "Minecraft has crashed! Please copy thing entrie text and send it to support @mojang"
#3151 [17:48] <mib_9ihsaw> k
#3152 [17:48] <quibbit> how do i update my vidio card plz give me instructions step for step
#3153 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_d6kh37 - Can you pastebin.com that error and give us the URL to it?
#3154 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - Have you given us your dxdiag?
#3155 [17:49] <quibbit> i dotn no how to get that
#3156 [17:49] <mib_9ihsaw> it didnt work
#3157 [17:49] <xales> quibbit: We told you four times now.
#3158 [17:49] <quibbit> im sorry
#3159 [17:49] <mib_q94skh> if this is my first time paying the game on this computer, should i update?
#3160 [17:49] <xales> Follow these instructions
#3161 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - I'm going to PM you, alright?
#3162 [17:49] <xales> ?? win/dxdiag
#3163 [17:49] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3164 [17:49] <quibbit> ok
#3165 [17:49] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3166 [17:49] <xales> mib_q94skh: Update?
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#3168 [17:49] <xales> mib_9ihsaw: Did you purchase Minecraft?
#3169 [17:49] <mib_9ihsaw> no
#3170 [17:49] <mib_q94skh> ya, it asks if i would like o update, should i just say not now?
#3171 [17:50] <xales> Then you can't play it
#3172 [17:50] <xales> mib_q94skh: You should say yes
#3173 [17:50] <mib_9ihsaw> dang
#3174 [17:50] <Pix> GreyVulpine i'll try looking into java settings too
#3175 [17:50] <xales> Pix: It wouldn't be a Java issue
#3176 [17:50] <mib_d6kh37> Pastebin? and i dont know what url im on http://www.minecraft.net/game/
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#3178 [17:50] <mib_9ihsaw> is there a free version?
#3179 [17:50] <xales> mib_9ihsaw: Yes. http://minecraft.net/play.jsp
#3180 [17:51] <mib_q94skh> what is a good connection speed (MBPS) to run this game
#3181 [17:51] <mib_9ihsaw> thnx
#3182 [17:51] <mib_zp5vdf> Its gonna take a while to download this what do I do after its done?
#3183 [17:51] <xales> mib_d6kh37: What exactly does it say, the error?
#3184 [17:51] <xales> mib_zp5vdf: Download it, install it, then restart your computer
#3185 [17:51] <xales> mib_q94skh: Any higher-speed DSL or cable
#3186 [17:51] <mib_zp5vdf> thnx man your amazing
#3187 [17:51] <alexwilliamjones77> okay I'm on a new account. have downloaded minecraft and have still encountered the java machine error. what was that thing i should run?
#3188 [17:51] <mib_9ihsaw> how do i start it up?
#3189 [17:51] <mib_q94skh> would 2 MBPS be good or no?
#3190 [17:52] <mib_d6kh37> ERROR: a1dce528 ?
#3191 [17:52] <xales> It should be..playable, not really "good"
#3192 [17:52] <xales> mib_d6kh37: Is that the entire error?
#3193 [17:52] <mib_q94skh> o ok
#3194 [17:52] <mib_q94skh> so best bet, get faster web
#3195 [17:52] <xales> You shouldn't need it
#3196 [17:53] <mib_d6kh37> Well i dont know i cant scroll the text but it looks cut off
#3197 [17:53] <xales> mib_d6kh37: Can you take a screenshot?
#3198 [17:53] <mib_q94skh> i only have like 1 MBPS
#3199 [17:53] <mib_q94skh> maybe less
#3200 [17:53] <xales> mib_q94skh: It might work, but you probably would want a better connection
#3201 [17:53] <mib_d6kh37> Yes if you tell me how to.
#3202 [17:53] <mib_9ihsaw> how do i start up free version?
#3203 [17:53] <xales> mib_9ihsaw: Just go to the link I gave you
#3204 [17:53] <xales> mib_d6kh37: http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#3205 [17:54] <mib_q94skh> can you save the files to a smartdisk (jumpdrive)
#3206 [17:54] <mib_q94skh> usb disk
#3207 [17:54] <mib_q94skh> whatever they are called
#3208 [17:54] <Kealper> mib_q94skh: yes, but you can't play it off there
#3209 [17:54] <Kealper> mib_q94skh: you would have to move the files back to the correct place when you wanted to use them :/
#3210 [17:55] <mib_d6kh37> I have a laptop and im not seeing that button
#3211 [17:55] <mib_d6kh37> Never mind...
#3212 [17:55] <mib_q94skh> so if i wanted to place it on laptop i would have to download it again
#3213 [17:55] <xales> Yes
#3214 [17:55] <Kealper> mib_q94skh: right
#3215 [17:55] <mib_q94skh> ok
#3216 [17:56] <mib_q94skh> and it doesnt matter what router i use, say my friends or McDonald's?
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#3218 [17:56] <xales> Correct
#3219 [17:56] <mib_q94skh> ok
#3220 [17:56] <mib_q94skh> well thnx for the help guys
#3221 [17:57] <mib_q94skh> girls...
#3222 [17:57] <mib_q94skh> whatever
#3223 [17:57] <alexwilliamjones77> my game still is not working on my new account
#3224 [17:57] <mib_aq539o> the free version isnt loading how do i start it?
#3225 [17:57] <xales> mib_aq539o: You just go to http://minecraft.net/play.jsp
#3226 [17:57] <mib_d6kh37> I still cant get a screenshot... The button im trying to press is shared with the insert button and i dont think its getting the screen shot
#3227 [17:58] <xales> mib_d6kh37: You might have to press the FN key
#3228 [17:58] <xales> alexwilliamjones77: hmm...
#3229 [17:58] <mib_d6kh37> Okay illl try that
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#3231 [17:58] <alexwilliamjones77> Yeah, i've been searching all day for people with this problem but my case seems pretty unique. different from everything i've seen so far
#3232 [17:58] <xales> alexwilliamjones77: Open Notepad from accessories
#3233 [17:59] <alexwilliamjones77> it's open
#3234 [17:59] <xales> in the file, type "java -Xmx512M -jar minecraft.jar"
#3235 [17:59] <xales> without the quotes
#3236 [17:59] <Sqozza> I like turtles
#3237 [17:59] <xales> then, save it on your desktop as "minecraft.bat" and type "All Files"
#3238 [17:59] <mib_d6kh37> okay if i took a screen shot were would it be saved to?
#3239 [18:00] <xales> mib_d6kh37: If you just pressed print screen, you have to open Paint and paste it there
#3240 [18:00] <alexwilliamjones77> Okay did that
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#3242 [18:00] <alexwilliamjones77> next?
#3243 [18:00] <xales> Download this file...
#3244 [18:00] <xales> ??> alexwilliamjones77 linux/client
#3245 [18:00] <VoxelHead> alexwilliamjones77: (linux/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
#3246 [18:00] <xales> Put that on your desktop
#3247 [18:00] <xales> then double-click the minecraft.bat file
#3248 [18:01] <alexwilliamjones77> when i double click the .bat file the same java message appears? sigh..
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#3250 [18:03] <xales> alexwilliamjones77: Does anything appear in the cmd window?
#3251 [18:04] <alexwilliamjones77> there's a line of text there but it disappears so fast I can't read it
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#3253 [18:04] <xales> Okay, right click the .bat file and select Edit
#3254 [18:04] <xales> add a new line, and put "pause" on it (after the java line)
#3255 [18:04] <xales> then save it and double-click it again
#3256 [18:04] <alexwilliamjones77> okay
#3257 [18:05] <mib_d6kh37> How do i send you the file?
#3258 [18:05] <Kealper> mib_d6kh37: put it on http://imgur.com
#3259 [18:05] <Kealper> and give us the link in here
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#3261 [18:06] <alexwilliamjones77> it just says "C:\Documents and Settings\Alex II\Desktop>java -Xmx512M -jar minecraft.jar"
#3262 [18:06] <mib_d6kh37> Okay I gusse its on there
#3263 [18:06] <mib_d6kh37> *guess
#3264 [18:07] <xales> mib_d6kh37: Now, give us the link
#3265 [18:07] <Kealper> give us the "direct link" to it lol
#3266 [18:07] <xales> alexwilliamjones77: Edit the file, change the 512 to 128
#3267 [18:07] <mib_d6kh37> [URL=http://imgur.com/56ydp][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/56ydp.png[/IMG][/URL]
#3268 [18:07] <xales> mib_d6kh37: Download the game, and run it
#3269 [18:08] <alexwilliamjones77> same error thing popped up and same thing in cmd even with edit
#3270 [18:08] <xales> hmm
#3271 [18:08] * mib_2moqtv [mib_2moqtv@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3272 [18:08] <xales> You're on XP, right?
#3273 [18:08] <alexwilliamjones77> Yeah
#3274 [18:08] <mib_2moqtv> hello??
#3275 [18:08] <xales> Service Pack 3 installed?
#3276 [18:08] <xales> Hello.
#3277 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_d6kh37 - can you scroll down a bit and take another screenshot?
#3278 [18:09] <alexwilliamjones77> SP3 is installed
#3279 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_d6kh37 - And you're sure you can't copy any of that text?
#3280 [18:09] <mib_2moqtv> Hi my friend was being a D**K and deleted my .minecraft and then erased it from recycle bin how do i get it back??
#3281 [18:09] <xales> alexwilliamjones77: Uninstall Java, any and all versions you find, then restart your computer and install it again
#3282 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_2moqtv - Just relaunch minecraft
#3283 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> It'll download .minecraft again when you launch it
#3284 [18:09] <alexwilliamjones77> so should i just search "java" and delete everyt trace of it on my computer?
#3285 [18:10] <xales> No.
#3286 [18:10] <xales> Uninstall every version from Add and Remove Programs
#3287 [18:10] <mib_d6kh37> No it wont let me scroll and more and i run the java thing every time i start up is that what your talking about?
#3288 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> mib_d6kh37 - It would help if we could see more of the error.
#3289 [18:11] <mib_2moqtv> so uninstall java??
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#3291 [18:11] <xales> mib_d6kh37: If you download the game and run it downloaded instead of in the browser, it will give you the whole error
#3292 [18:11] <mib_2moqtv> and install again
#3293 [18:11] <John4782> Hey
#3294 [18:11] <John4782> I habe problems :(
#3295 [18:11] <xales> mib_2moqtv: No. We were talking to someone else. Just re-launch Minecraft.
#3296 [18:11] <xales> John4782: What problems?
#3297 [18:11] <mib_2moqtv> ok
#3298 [18:11] <John4782> I cant Upload a Skin -_-
#3299 [18:11] <xales> It's not working at the moment.
#3300 [18:11] <xales> Just be patient and try again tomorrow.
#3301 [18:11] <mib_d6kh37> No i can not scroll or copy it.
#3302 [18:12] <John4782> Something seems to have gone wrong. We'll have a tinker with it momentarily, please check back again later.
#3303 [18:12] <John4782> ok
#3304 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_d6kh37 - Could you launch it with the downloadable client?
#3305 [18:12] <mib_2moqtv> when i run minecraft it says done loading but stays there do i just wait???
#3306 [18:12] <mib_2moqtv> cause i reinstalled minecraft
#3307 [18:12] <xales> mib_2moqtv: Delete the .minecraft folder again and re-launch it
#3308 [18:12] <mib_2moqtv> kk
#3309 [18:13] <mib_d6kh37> Whats that?
#3310 [18:13] <John4782> So, is it the same if you want to change your skin?
#3311 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> John4782 - If you wait till tomorrow, the skin upload function will work again
#3312 [18:13] <John4782> Press WindowsKey + R
#3313 [18:13] <xales> ??> mib_d6kh37 win/client
#3314 [18:13] <John4782> thx
#3315 [18:13] <VoxelHead> mib_d6kh37: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#3316 [18:13] <John4782> And Type &appdata&
#3317 [18:13] <John4782> Delete the .minecraft folder
#3318 [18:13] <John4782> And relaunch
#3319 [18:13] <xales> John4782: Wrong person, and wrong character
#3320 [18:14] <xales> :P
#3321 [18:14] <John4782> ?
#3322 [18:14] <mib_2moqtv> it says Fatal Error Occured (4): Null.
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#3324 [18:14] <John4782> Huh
#3325 [18:14] <mib_d6kh37> No it just closes itself out.
#3326 [18:14] <xales> mib_2moqtv: Close Minecraft, delete the folder, then run it again
#3327 [18:14] <mib_2moqtv> i did
#3328 [18:14] <xales> mib_d6kh37: Do you see a hs_err file on your desktop?
#3329 [18:15] <xales> mib_2moqtv: Try playing it in the browser
#3330 [18:15] <mib_d6kh37> No i dont see anything on my desktop?
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#3332 [18:15] <xales> mib_d6kh37: Look in the folder where minecraft.exe is
#3333 [18:17] <mib_2moqtv> i cant tell who's talking to who
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#3335 [18:17] <mib_d6kh37> Someone on here gave my another dowload today to give me the .exe file because when i installed mine (and minecraft was working after i got it) i dint see it there so should i look in that folder or the old one
#3336 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> You can change your nick with /nick newnick
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#3338 [18:18] <mib_2moqtv> Can i get some help when somone has 2 minutes
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#3340 [18:18] <WhiteRabbit101> hi
#3341 [18:18] <WhiteRabbit101> anyone know why minecraft would crash when creating a new world in linux
#3342 [18:18] <mib_2moqtv> minecraft crashs alot now..
#3343 [18:18] <WhiteRabbit101> nah but this is everytime
#3344 [18:19] <xales> WhiteRabbit101: Do you see any error?
#3345 [18:19] <WhiteRabbit101> yes theres error reports
#3346 [18:19] <xales> mib_2moqtv: With?
#3347 [18:19] <xales> WhiteRabbit101: http://pastebin.com/ one please
#3348 [18:19] <WhiteRabbit101> np
#3349 [18:20] <mib_2moqtv> xales: I deleted the minecraft folder and deleted it from recycle bin... how do i get it back so i can play??
#3350 [18:20] <WhiteRabbit101> http://pastebin.com/2hY7sAVg
#3351 [18:20] <xales> mib_2moqtv: It will redownload itself when you launch the game again
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#3353 [18:21] <xales> WhiteRabbit101: One moment
#3354 [18:21] <mib_2moqtv> xales:but when i launch it i says done loading but freezes there what do i do?
#3355 [18:21] <mib_2moqtv> just wait?
#3356 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_2moqtv - Are you sure your .minecraft folder is completely deleted?
#3357 [18:21] <mib_d6kh37> ... Okay i guess i'l just figure it out myself then
#3358 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_2moqtv - In the launcher, there's an Options button, next to where you put in your login info, click it and click on "Force Update"
#3359 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_2moqtv - Then try launching minecraft again
#3360 [18:22] <mib_2moqtv> greyvulpine:it was but when i launched the game it downloaded... and i whent to the .minecraft folder and there is only .Bin and Last login
#3361 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Try the last thing I just suggested mib_2moqtv
#3362 [18:23] <xales> mib_d6kh37: You aren't really explaining wht the problem is ._.
#3363 [18:23] <xales> WhiteRabbit101: It's a problem with the fglrx driver..make sure it's up to date
#3364 [18:23] <xales> try also deleting the 'bin' directory from ~/.minecraft
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#3366 [18:23] <WhiteRabbit101> cheers pal, ill give that a go
#3367 [18:23] <mib_d6kh37> My mine craft says it has crashed???
#3368 [18:24] <Jackson413> anyone wanna help me play minecraft?
#3369 [18:24] <mib_2moqtv> greyvulpine:still freezes at Updating minecraft Done loading
#3370 [18:24] <xales> mib_d6kh37: You have to give us the full error
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#3372 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_d6kh37 - Can you please launch minecraft via the downloadable client, then copy the error it gives you
#3373 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> The FULL error
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#3375 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#3376 [18:25] <mib_d6kh37> i cant copy the error scroll to get a better look I posted a pic on that imgur thing and as far as i can the there is no error in my mine craft folder.
#3377 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> mib_d6kh37 - Again, can you launch minecraft via the downloadable client?
#3378 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Use the client download link from here: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3379 [18:26] <mib_d6kh37> No i cant launch that.
#3380 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Once you get the error again, you should be able to copy the error
#3381 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> What can't you?
#3382 [18:26] <mib_d6kh37> Or when i do it just freezes on the MOJANG screen and closes out
#3383 [18:26] <mib_2moqtv> GreyVulpine: It still stops at Updating minecraft Done Loading...
#3384 [18:26] <mib_2moqtv> how do i get by it?
#3385 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> mib_2moqtv - You tried the "Force Update" button?
#3386 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> mib_d6kh37 - I'd try updating your video drivers, and reinstalling java.
#3387 [18:27] <mib_2moqtv> GreyVulpine: yes it says Fatal error (4): null
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#3389 [18:28] <mib_d6kh37> I dont know. It has a scroll bar but i cant click it and i cant highlight it.... okay i'l try the java thing .
#3390 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_2moqtv - Does this happen on both the downloadable client, and the web client?
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#3392 [18:28] <mib_2moqtv> GreyVulpine: yes
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#3394 [18:29] <alexwilliamjones77> Okay sadly removing all versions of Java and reinstalling STILL did not work... so frusturating!
#3395 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_2moqtv - Are you on windows?
#3396 [18:29] <mib_d6kh37> To re install it shoud i remove it first.
#3397 [18:29] <mib_2moqtv> yes
#3398 [18:29] <mib_2moqtv> vista
#3399 [18:30] <mib_2moqtv> GreyVulpine-yes vista
#3400 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_2moqtv - Could you head to your command prompt (start -> cmd in the search bar)
#3401 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> then, ping minecraft.net in the command prompt
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#3403 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Tell me the ip address it gives you
#3404 [18:31] <mib_2moqtv> idk what ping is 0.0
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#3406 [18:31] <mib_2moqtv> lol :(
#3407 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Are you at the black command prompt?
#3408 [18:31] <mib_2moqtv> yes
#3409 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Type in: ping minecraft.net
#3410 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> A series of lines should pop up
#3411 [18:32] <mib_2moqtv> yep
#3412 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> The first line should be Pinging minecraft.net [xx.xx.xx.xx]
#3413 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> What is [xx.xx.xx.xx]
#3414 [18:32] <alexwilliamjones77> anyone have any other ideas?
#3415 [18:32] <xales> alexwilliamjones77: Uninstall any security software running, they tend to cause that error
#3416 [18:32] <xales> that, and lack of RAM, but we eliminated that as a problem
#3417 [18:32] <mib_2moqtv> 50.16.203.217
#3418 [18:32] <alexwilliamjones77> oh alright
#3419 [18:33] <mib_2moqtv> is the ip if ping
#3420 [18:33] <mib_2moqtv> of*
#3421 [18:34] <mib_2moqtv> GreyVulpine: you there??
#3422 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_2moqtv - You did buy a minecraft account, right?
#3423 [18:35] <mib_2moqtv> yes
#3424 [18:35] <mib_2moqtv> GreyVulpine: Yes
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#3426 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> mib_2moqtv - Have you updated to the latest java?
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#3428 [18:36] <WhiteRabbit101> ok xales i got a different error now after updating to the latest graphics driver
#3429 [18:36] <xales> WhiteRabbit101: What error?
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#3431 [18:36] <WhiteRabbit101> http://pastebin.com/4Rf1JehB
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#3435 [18:37] <xales> WhiteRabbit101: Has it worked before?
#3436 [18:37] <WhiteRabbit101> nope
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#3439 [18:37] <WhiteRabbit101> just got it
#3440 [18:37] <xales> WhiteRabbit101: Do you know what graphics card you have?
#3441 [18:37] <WhiteRabbit101> ati HD 5770
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#3444 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> I think i've seen that error before..
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#3446 [18:38] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> hi
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#3449 [18:38] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> :P
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#3451 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Was either video drivers, or lwjgl
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#3453 [18:38] <xales> GreyVulpine: They updated to latest video driver, probably lwjgl
#3454 [18:38] <WhiteRabbit101> idk could be driver
#3455 [18:38] <WhiteRabbit101> ati is shit
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#3457 [18:38] <xales> Yeah, it's a driver issue, the lwjgl that comes with Minecraft doesn't like it I think
#3458 [18:39] <WhiteRabbit101> aye its the driver actually
#3459 [18:39] <WhiteRabbit101> its fucked other shit now i updated lol
#3460 [18:39] <xales> Try downloading the lwjgl binaries and replacing them in ~/.minecraft/bin and ~/.minecraft/bin/natives
#3461 [18:39] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> hi im cookie^^
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#3465 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> yay
#3466 [18:40] <Kealper> !unload mod_bot
#3467 [18:41] <xales> Kealper: derp
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#3471 [18:41] <WhiteRabbit101> cheers for the help lads anyway, probs just play once my laptop gets fixed
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#3474 [18:41] <Kealper> oh, was it one of the casualties?
#3475 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Bad DopeGhoti! That cable isn't for nomming.
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#3477 [18:42] <goobers> liten-kaka-e-le bought a gift code for me, but he is unable to get into his hotmail email for the gift code. it's very wierd circumstance, but he created the hotmail account many years ago. he has tried recovering his hotmail password, but hotmail support didn't believe him after giving away personal information that he probably shouldn't have given away. what does he need to do to
#3478 [18:42] <goobers> recover this gift code, or who does he need to get in touch with to help with this issue?
#3479 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> If he bought the gift code using his minecraft account, it would also show up in his minecraft's profile page
#3480 [18:43] <xales> goobers: They just need to log into their profile page on minecraft.net, and they can see the gift code there
#3481 [18:43] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> no did not show up
#3482 [18:43] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> -.-
#3483 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Did you just buy it not too long ago?
#3484 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Did you check to see if the payment went through on your end
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#3486 [18:43] <goobers> he purchased it today.
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#3489 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes, purchases can take a few hours for the transaction to process. It's not uncommon.
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#3492 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Once it does go through, the gift code will show up on the purchaser's profile page
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#3495 [18:45] <alexwilliamjones77> this is a tricky problem........... why me?
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#3498 [18:45] <xales> alexwilliamjones77: Tried uninstalling security software?
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#3500 [18:45] <goobers> he said, he used paypal to purchase it and it went through.
#3501 [18:45] <alexwilliamjones77> yeah i managed to disable it. it wouldn't let me remove the program though
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#3503 [18:46] <umbridge> Hello??
#3504 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#3507 [18:47] <umbridge> Grey did u find stuff out?
#3508 [18:47] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> yes i did-.-
#3509 [18:47] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> ops
#3510 [18:47] <umbridge> ?
#3511 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> alexwilliamjones77 - And you've checked to see if there's no OS updates available for your system?
#3512 [18:47] <alexwilliamjones77> how do I check that?
#3513 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> What OS are you on?
#3514 [18:48] <alexwilliamjones77> Windows XP Service pack 3
#3515 [18:48] <alexwilliamjones77> correction
#3516 [18:48] <alexwilliamjones77> service pack 2
#3517 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> That.. would do it
#3518 [18:48] <umbridge> GreyVulpine: hey grey the ip the cmd gave me for ping minecraft.net [50.16.203.217]
#3519 [18:48] <goobers> GreyVulpine> He pasted out the information that was on his profile page, and sent a screenshot, there is no gift code under the profile page. So just wait a few days then, maybe paypal doesn't go through immediately?
#3520 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Update to service pack 3
#3521 [18:48] <alexwilliamjones77> where do I update?
#3522 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> goobers - Wait a day, maybe two, and have him contact mojang at payment@mojang.com
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#3524 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> alexwilliamjones77 - http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwindowsupdate.microsoft.com%2F&rct=j&q=windows%20update&ei=bZ7VTfXNL6bm0QHolo3aBw&usg=AFQjCNEug1leQo3NEunhDOU1qyizGL4HYg&cad=rja
#3525 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> er
#3526 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
#3527 [18:50] <umbridge> GreyVulpine:> did you hear me i said the ip ping minecraft,net gave me was [50.16.203.217]
#3528 [18:50] <AG_Scott> I hate those URLs
#3529 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> damn google urls
#3530 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> umbridge - Yeah, uh, sorry. What was the problem again?
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#3532 [18:50] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> goodnight ever 1 Xales take care -.-
#3533 [18:50] <alexwilliamjones77> windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ ... it says page unavailable?
#3534 [18:50] <alexwilliamjones77> wrong link?
#3535 [18:51] <umbridge> i deleted .minecraft and i need it back
#3536 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> http://www.update.microsoft.com/ ?
#3537 [18:51] <Kealper> umbridge: run the game and log in again and it'll redownload it
#3538 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - umbridge has tried
#3539 [18:51] <Kealper> oh
#3540 [18:51] <Kealper> well then
#3541 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Game won't download, deleted .minecraft
#3542 [18:52] <alexwilliamjones77> that didn't work either, and when i googled it and clicked on it, it still says unavailable.... website down?
#3543 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> went to force update throught the launcher
#3544 [18:52] <umbridge> Kealper: when i run it it says Done Loading but freezes
#3545 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> alexwilliamjones77 - That's.. weird.
#3546 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> alexwilliamjones77 - You said you're running windows vista?
#3547 [18:52] <umbridge> i am
#3548 [18:52] <alexwilliamjones77> windows XP
#3549 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#3550 [18:53] <KriLL3> there is no way to light up large outside areas other than an epic amount of torches?
#3551 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> KriLL3 - Pretty much the only way, yeah
#3552 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> alexwilliamjones77 - Go to start -> control panel -> system -> automatic updates
#3553 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Are automatic updates enabled?
#3554 [18:55] <alexwilliamjones77> yes it says every day at 3 a.m.
#3555 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> At the bottom, there should be a link to the Windows Update Website
#3556 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> Click on it, and it should bring you to microsoft's update website
#3557 [18:56] <alexwilliamjones77> okay it opened it even in another browser and it still has a problem with that link. i'll reset my internet connection
#3558 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> bleh.
#3559 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, go here:
#3560 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&displaylang=en
#3561 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> That's the direct link to WinXp SP3
#3562 [18:56] <umbridge> ....
#3563 [18:57] <alexwilliamjones77> okay I am downloading it now approx 30 mins left
#3564 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Once you install that, hopefully the java issue will go away
#3565 [18:57] <alexwilliamjones77> amen to that
#3566 [18:57] <alexwilliamjones77> thanks GreyVulpine
#3567 [18:57] <umbridge> I can under stand your all Very Very busy but can I get some help just for 5 minutes.. i've been in chat an hour..
#3568 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Sorry umbridge.
#3569 [18:58] <KriLL3> does armor help with falling damage? it really shouldn't... should make it worse
#3570 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> umbridge - You're not running any sort of security software that might be blocking minecraft?
#3571 [18:58] <umbridge> GreyVulpine Nope
#3572 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> KriLL3 - Armor does help with falling damage
#3573 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> umbridge - And you've looked into updating java?
#3574 [18:59] <umbridge> GreyVulpine - i can play minecraft classic in browser but not beta 1.5_01
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#3576 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> umbridge - Those two can't be compared with, beta's undergone serious changes to its base code
#3577 [18:59] <umbridge> GreyVulpine - yes java is updated to newest one
#3578 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> So you've deleted .minecraft, did force update, made sure java is updated, and there's nothing blocking minecraft from running?
#3579 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> You're still getting Done Loading?
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#3581 [19:01] <Kealper> ok so it's just umbridge left then?
#3582 [19:01] * GreyVulpine nods
#3582 [19:01] <umbridge> GreyVulpine - i was just playing like an hour ago and when i deleted .minecraft and tryed to reinstall it... it worked but when i lauched it stops loading 98% of the way at the "updating minecraft" screen
#3583 [19:01] <Kealper> has he tried reinstalling java completely?
#3584 [19:02] <umbridge> Kealper - .Minecraft only has a Bin file and Last login in the .Minecraft folder
#3585 [19:02] <umbridge> And in the Bin folder its only md5 or w/e and another thing
#3586 [19:03] <Kealper> well, but have you tried completely uninstalling and reinstalling Java, itself? and do you have any antivirus or firewall software installed?
#3587 [19:03] <umbridge> i have nod 37 or w/e installed
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#3589 [19:04] <Kealper> hmm...have you tried totally disabling that for a few min to test if it works without that running?
#3590 [19:04] <umbridge> Yes..
#3591 [19:04] <Kealper> hmmm......
#3592 [19:05] <umbridge> i think its just cause there's only a Bin folder in my .minecraft folder
#3593 [19:05] <umbridge> and thats it
#3594 [19:05] <umbridge> nothing else
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#3596 [19:05] <umbridge> there no minecraft.jar in the bin or anything
#3597 [19:05] <KriLL3> why does minecraft go into the appdata folder anyway?
#3598 [19:05] <Kealper> well...the launcher should redownload all the files if there is nothing in there
#3599 [19:06] <Kealper> KriLL3: because normally users won't ever need to bother with those files
#3600 [19:06] <umbridge> yeah ik it just downloaded Bin and last login
#3601 [19:06] <Kealper> umbridge: so what happens when you try to update? the launcher just sits there with a progress bar that doesn't move?
#3602 [19:07] <umbridge> No if i update it says " Fatal error" (4) : Null
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#3604 [19:07] <umbridge> if i launch without update it stops at the end of the loading bar but ti says Done Loading
#3605 [19:07] <Kealper> do you have any other computers you can try it on?
#3606 [19:08] <umbridge> i only have my laptop
#3607 [19:08] <Kealper> hmm....
#3608 [19:09] <Kealper> so then, have you tried uninstalling Java though Programs and Features in the control panel and then reistalling it from http://java.com?
#3609 [19:09] <umbridge> No
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#3611 [19:09] <umbridge> will that affect other things??
#3612 [19:09] <Kealper> try that, it might just be something screwy with Java
#3613 [19:09] <Kealper> no
#3614 [19:09] <umbridge> if i uninstall
#3615 [19:09] <Kealper> well, shouldn't
#3616 [19:10] <umbridge> where do i uninstall on Http://www.java.com/
#3617 [19:10] <Kealper> uhh....first go to Control Panel from your start menu, and select Programs and Features, from there, locate Java and uninstall it
#3618 [19:11] <Kealper> once you have it uninstalled, then go to http://java.com and choose to install it again
#3619 [19:11] <umbridge> kk its uninstalled
#3620 [19:11] <umbridge> im installing now
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#3622 [19:12] <umbridge> kk installed and updated
#3623 [19:12] <guacamole> help
#3624 [19:12] <Kealper> ??> guacamole ask
#3625 [19:12] <VoxelHead> guacamole: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3626 [19:12] <VoxelHead> guacamole: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3627 [19:12] <guacamole> lol
#3628 [19:12] <guacamole> why does my minecraft game say its not downloaded when i run it?
#3629 [19:12] <Kealper> umbridge: ok then, give Minecraft a shot again and see if it works?
#3630 [19:13] <guacamole> tryed
#3631 [19:13] <guacamole> o lol
#3632 [19:13] <Kealper> guacamole: did you log in first?
#3633 [19:13] <guacamole> brb
#3634 [19:14] <guacamole> says not premium
#3635 [19:14] <guacamole> and still says not downloaded
#3636 [19:14] <Kealper> you have to buy Minecraft beta to play it
#3637 [19:14] <guacamole> :O
#3638 [19:14] <guacamole> ok
#3639 [19:15] <umbridge> nope
#3640 [19:15] <umbridge> still dont work
#3641 [19:15] <Kealper> hmm....have you tried to see if it works on a new windows user account?
#3642 [19:16] <umbridge> i cant make one cause my mom has a admin account and blocked new users
#3643 [19:16] <umbridge> lmao
#3644 [19:16] <Kealper> ._.
#3645 [19:16] <umbridge> ikr?
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#3647 [19:17] <Kealper> well....i'm actually thinking it might be something either with your computer's user account or your internet....
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#3649 [19:17] <Kealper> if you can: could you try playing it on your mom's windows account?
#3650 [19:18] <umbridge> its password protected lol
#3651 [19:19] <JB> Hey. I was trying to get a mod to get rid of the red bars when you press f3, and the guy told my to erase the META-INF folder, now my game wont work in-browser
#3652 [19:19] <Kealper> i actually meant to get your mom and have her log in to it for a minute so you could test it lol
#3653 [19:19] <Kealper> JB: although this is not really the right place to ask about mods....are you sure the mod was confirmed working for v1.5_01?
#3654 [19:19] <umbridge> she's shopping :(!
#3655 [19:19] <JB> ya
#3656 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> JB - Once you mod minecraft, you can't play it in the browser
#3657 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> It'll only work in the downloadable client
#3658 [19:20] <Kealper> umbridge: well then, that throws a wrench in to things
#3659 [19:20] <umbridge> yes it does
#3660 [19:20] <JB> well my computer works for inbrowser, but it says the video card is bad when i download it
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#3662 [19:24] <quiggle> After i log into the game the screen goes black. Then, when i try to play online the loading screen comes up and then there's a white sceen or black screen
#3663 [19:24] <Kealper> quiggle: has it ever worked before?
#3664 [19:25] <quiggle> yes it did but recently this has been happening
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#3666 [19:26] <Kealper> has your computer been restarted since you noticed it happening?
#3667 [19:26] <quiggle> yes
#3668 [19:26] <Kealper> has anything changed on your computer (new hardware, new software) since this started happening?
#3669 [19:26] <quiggle> i restored my computer
#3670 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> so, "yes".
#3671 [19:27] <Kealper> hmm....i wonder if that might have rolled back graphics drivers or something....are you trying to play it in the browser or in the downloaded client?
#3672 [19:28] <quiggle> i tried both. i tried downloaded first but when that didnt work i tried online but that didnt work either
#3673 [19:28] <Kealper> ok, try playing the online one again, and when it goes black/white/whatever, leave it there and tell me
#3674 [19:29] <Kealper> that can help give some extra info on what is causing this
#3675 [19:29] <Wug> are you getting an error message of any kind?
#3676 [19:29] <Kealper> Wug: that's what i'm about to have him/her check for
#3677 [19:29] <quiggle> i tried it now. the screen went white and there is no error messages
#3678 [19:30] <Kealper> quiggle: ok, look in the bottom right of your monitor, by the computer's clock
#3679 [19:30] <Kealper> do you see a little white coffee cup icon?
#3680 [19:30] <quiggle> yes. thats the java
#3681 [19:31] <Kealper> right click it, and select Open Java Console
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#3683 [19:31] <quiggle> ok
#3684 [19:32] <Kealper> copy all that stuff and then....
#3685 [19:32] <Kealper> Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
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#3687 [19:32] <Kealper> (gotta love "canned" responses)
#3688 [19:32] <quiggle> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(Unknown Source)
#3689 [19:32] <Kealper> not in here
#3690 [19:32] <Kealper> pastebin.com
#3691 [19:32] <quiggle> just did
#3692 [19:33] <Kealper> could you give the URL to that paste? pastebin is a rather big site lol
#3693 [19:33] * lol !
#3693 [19:33] <Kealper> ._.
#3694 [19:34] <quiggle> where is that in java
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#3696 [19:34] <Kealper> uhh...what?
#3697 [19:34] <quiggle> http://pastebin.com/v3RM7Cwq
#3698 [19:35] <Wug> try a force update
#3699 [19:35] <Wug> or have you already
#3700 [19:35] <quiggle> i have
#3701 [19:35] <Wug> it looks like there's something wrong with lwjgl
#3702 [19:35] <Wug> are you trying to use advanced opengl?
#3703 [19:35] <quiggle> no
#3704 [19:36] <Wug> or rather the updated lwjgl libraries
#3705 [19:36] <Kealper> ?? win/dxdiag
#3706 [19:36] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3707 [19:36] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3708 [19:36] <quiggle> i havent used either
#3709 [19:36] <Wug> honestly then, I'm stumped
#3710 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> have we yet tried a new user profile?
#3711 [19:37] <Wug> hmm
#3712 [19:37] <quiggle> not yet
#3713 [19:37] <Wug> does your windows username have special characters in it
#3714 [19:37] <Kealper> havent really tried anything yet, just now got (part) of the error
#3715 [19:37] <Wug> like maybe a '!'
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#3717 [19:37] <quiggle> yes. should i change it
#3718 [19:37] <Wug> yes, thats the problem
#3719 [19:37] <apparatus> yello, all.
#3720 [19:37] <Kealper> aha!
#3721 [19:37] <Wug> its a known bug
#3722 [19:37] <Kealper> quiggle: unfortunately...
#3723 [19:38] <apparatus> my i ask for some help?
#3724 [19:38] <Kealper> that can't be fixed by renaming your windows account....
#3725 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> I remember how I was mocked the first few times I suggested that (:
#3726 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> ??> apparatus ask
#3727 [19:38] <VoxelHead> apparatus: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3728 [19:38] <Wug> every time I see it I kick myself for not seeing it earlier
#3729 [19:38] <VoxelHead> apparatus: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3730 [19:38] <Kealper> quiggle: make a new Windows profile (without using any special characters) and that will fix it
#3731 [19:38] <quiggle> ok thanks
#3732 [19:38] <Kealper> i hate long quit messages
#3733 [19:39] <apparatus> i need help doing something with chunk file at -11, -11 it is in the wrong location
#3734 [19:39] <NotiCon> doesnt this network have a chanmode for shortening down quit/part messages?
#3735 [19:39] <apparatus> my mc dude is stuck now on my world, like i cant walk around or anything now.
#3736 [19:39] <Wug> apparatus - load in mcedit, fix chunks
#3737 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> NotiCon: maybe we should kick people with excessively long quits. Oh, wait.
#3738 [19:40] <NotiCon> wasnt me that was hating them
#3739 [19:40] <NotiCon> was Kealper
#3740 [19:40] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: methinks your joke fell on deaf ears
#3741 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> "Don't Explain the Joke."
#3742 [19:40] <Kealper> deaf eyes, even
#3743 [19:40] <Kealper> (yes, deaf eys)
#3744 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> who knows, maybe ey uses TTS.
#3745 [19:40] <Kealper> eyes* bah
#3746 [19:41] <Wug> apparatus - load world in mcedit, hold ctrl for menu, click world info, click repair regions, save/quit
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#3749 [19:42] <apparatus> i cant even get to the download for mcedit
#3750 [19:43] <mib_uati2e> anyone having trouble with this thing crashing every two or three min?
#3751 [19:43] <apparatus> keeps redirecting me to top of page now
#3752 [19:43] <alexwilliamjones77> mib_uati2e try using a different browser. happened to me earlier on firefox
#3753 [19:44] <mib_uati2e> ? i don't use it browser based
#3754 [19:44] <Wug> http://davidvierra.com/mcedit.html
#3755 [19:45] <Kealper> ugh....i have a headache
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#3757 [19:48] <t3a> Does anyone here know how to make a program counter?
#3758 [19:48] <Kealper> program counter?
#3759 [19:48] <t3a> redstone
#3760 [19:48] <Kealper> oh
#3761 [19:48] <Kealper> have you checked out the wiki page on redstone circuits?
#3762 [19:49] <t3a> yes
#3763 [19:49] <t3a> it seems to just be basic logic gates and storage cells
#3764 [19:49] <Kealper> those are what you combine to get what you need :P
#3765 [19:49] <t3a> yes, I am asking how
#3766 [19:49] <Kealper> what sort of counter were you wanting to make?
#3767 [19:50] <Wug> program counter is a computer component
#3768 [19:50] <Wug> indicating the address of the next instruction to read
#3769 [19:50] <t3a> yes
#3770 [19:50] <Wug> it would just be an adder
#3771 [19:50] <Kealper> oh...wasn't sure he meant that advanced
#3772 [19:50] <t3a> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXPsKCeK9Hc
#3773 [19:50] <Kealper> i thought he was just talking about a timer circuit lol
#3774 [19:50] <t3a> this guy isn't very specific
#3775 [19:50] <t3a> and its the only tut I could find
#3776 [19:50] <Wug> just add to the counter every instruction
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#3778 [19:51] <Wug> how much you have to add depends on how wide your instruction set is
#3779 [19:51] <Wug> and whether you address by bits or ... something else
#3780 [19:51] <Wug> like 4 bit chunks
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#3782 [19:52] <t3a> A program counter would have the length of the instruction memory cells per instruction saved, right?
#3783 [19:53] <t3a> or, to rephrase it n
#3784 [19:53] <Wug> since you're probably using a fixed instructino size
#3785 [19:53] <Wug> you should just hardcode it
#3786 [19:53] <t3a> hardcode what
#3787 [19:53] <Wug> the increment
#3788 [19:53] <Wug> you have a block of memory with instruction in it
#3789 [19:54] <t3a> yes, I figured it would be difficult to not hardcode it and have every instruction line link to the next
#3790 [19:54] <Wug> the program counter basically iterates over each instruction
#3791 [19:54] <t3a> yes
#3792 [19:54] <Wug> so you just have to add the size of the instruction to the pc every cycle
#3793 [19:54] <t3a> how many mutually exclusive outputs would you reccomend for the pc?
#3794 [19:54] <Wug> depends on how much memory you are dedicating to instructions
#3795 [19:55] * Wug just took a course on all this stuff, and applying it to redstone is really neat
#3795 [19:55] <t3a> I thought I would have it seperate from the RAM module
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#3797 [19:55] * Kealper has never even tried building this stuff, so just carry on
#3797 [19:56] <t3a> I was thinking 8 outputs with 8 memory cells each. Does that sound good?
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#3799 [19:56] <t3a> oh my
#3800 [19:56] <t3a> thats an open ended question
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#3803 [19:59] <bellows> What folder or file do i save dowloaded worlds to?
#3804 [20:00] <Kealper> %appdata%\.minecraf\saves
#3805 [20:00] <Wug> ^t
#3806 [20:00] <Kealper> yeah, that
#3807 [20:01] <Wug> well t3a, having it part of main memory would be useful for a few reasons
#3808 [20:01] <Wug> it would be slower, but its a redstone computer, it'll be slow anyway
#3809 [20:01] <bellows> Okay i did that and it still isnt showing up on my world selector
#3810 [20:01] <Wug> is it still zipped?
#3811 [20:01] <bellows> Yeah i belive so.
#3812 [20:01] <Wug> lol are any of the other ones in there zipped?
#3813 [20:02] <Wug> no.
#3814 [20:02] <Wug> so why would that one work?
#3815 [20:02] <bellows> ... Uhh i got it lol Thanks :)
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#3818 [20:08] <t3a> Wug, what is the schematic for a mutually exclusive timer/program counter
#3819 [20:08] <Wug> no idea, i've never built one
#3820 [20:10] <Nickname> It says it is unable to load logo and progressbar images. What do I do?
#3821 [20:11] * mib_cx92hp [mib_cx92hp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3822 [20:12] <mib_cx92hp> hello?
#3823 [20:12] <mib_cx92hp> i have the
#3824 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> you have the?
#3825 [20:13] <mib_cx92hp> bad video driver error
#3826 [20:14] <mib_cx92hp> ATI Technologies Inc. Radeon x 1300/x1550 series (Microsoft) WDDm1.0
#3827 [20:14] <mib_cx92hp> im running windows 7 and looking for help =) thankyou
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#3829 [20:16] <mib_cx92hp> anybody still there?
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#3831 [20:17] <apparatus> THANKS YOU!
#3832 [20:17] <apparatus> it works now
#3833 [20:17] * mib_qfp0ze [mib_qfp0ze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3834 [20:17] <Wug> no problem
#3835 [20:17] <mib_qfp0ze> i have the Bad video card drivers! error and i would apreciate help =)
#3836 [20:18] <mib_qfp0ze> anybody?
#3837 [20:18] <mib_qfp0ze> seeing lots of quits...am i alone
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#3839 [20:19] <Daveed> Hello, is anyone here to help me?
#3840 [20:19] <Daveed> ?
#3841 [20:20] <mib_qfp0ze> doesnt seem like it to me
#3842 [20:20] <Daveed> Darn
#3843 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#3844 [20:20] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help, and be as specific as possible.
#3845 [20:20] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3846 [20:20] <Daveed> Ok
#3847 [20:21] <Daveed> whenever I try t break a block, it automatically heals itself back to full help
#3848 [20:21] <mib_qfp0ze> you i have the bad Bad video card drivers! message coming up when i run minecraft
#3849 [20:21] <Daveed> health
#3850 [20:21] <Daveed> I just bought the game
#3851 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> ??> Daveed smp/spawnzone
#3852 [20:21] <VoxelHead> Daveed: (smp/spawnzone) The spawn zone is, as a way to avoid griefing, protected from any changes by any users who are not administrators. Try moving away from the spawn area.
#3853 [20:21] <VoxelHead> Daveed: (smp/spawnzone) If you are the server admin, see smp/opyourself
#3854 [20:21] <Daveed> How large is the spawn zone?
#3855 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> Daveed: or is this in single-player
#3856 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> it's about 30 blocks square
#3857 [20:22] <mib_qfp0ze> can anyone see my messages?
#3858 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> mib_qfp0ze: have you tried updating your GPU drivers?
#3859 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> oh, Daveed
#3860 [20:22] <Daveed> This is in single plate
#3861 [20:22] <mib_qfp0ze> sorry GPU? graphics....
#3862 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> Daveed donyclick
#3863 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> Daveed dontclick
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#3865 [20:22] <VoxelHead> Daveed: (dontclick) You will have better luck holding down the mouse button. Clicking is for instant interactions like placing blocks and flipping switches. To mine, chop wood, or dig; hold down the mouse button.
#3866 [20:23] <mib_qfp0ze> i updated my video card drivers
#3867 [20:23] <Daveed> Thanks so much! That works great!
#3868 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> sorry, I thought you were adking a different question (: That should get you going, Daveed (:
#3869 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Cheers! \o
#3870 [20:23] <mib_qfp0ze> hmm?
#3871 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> mib_qfp0ze: what video card is it?
#3872 [20:23] <mib_qfp0ze> Radeon x 1300/x1550 series (Microsoft)
#3873 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> from where did you get the new drivers?
#3874 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> Windows Update?
#3875 [20:24] <mib_qfp0ze> yes
#3876 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_qfp0ze gpu/amd
#3877 [20:24] <VoxelHead> mib_qfp0ze: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#3878 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> Go there and get the _real_ drivers.
#3879 [20:25] <mib_qfp0ze> ok thanks trying it
#3880 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> good luck!
#3881 [20:25] <mib_qfp0ze> i already did this looking through the forums
#3882 [20:26] <mib_qfp0ze> did you leave?
#3883 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> No, but I am at work and cannot give #minecrafthelp my undivided attention.
#3884 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> Don't worry, your text won't go anwyhere after you hit Enter; I'll see it eventually.
#3885 [20:27] <mib_qfp0ze> o ok thankyou i apreciate you =) will be more pacient
#3886 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> So you have already gotten the drivers from AMD's site?
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#3888 [20:27] <mib_qfp0ze> yes
#3889 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_qfp0ze win/profile
#3890 [20:27] <VoxelHead> mib_qfp0ze: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3891 [20:27] <VoxelHead> mib_qfp0ze: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3892 [20:28] <alexwilliamjones77> okay not sure if anyone remembers my problem (Could not create java virtual machine error) but installing windows xp Sp3 did not fix it
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#3894 [20:28] <mib_qfp0ze> was the create a new profile to the video card question
#3895 [20:28] <mib_qfp0ze> ?
#3896 [20:29] <alexwilliamjones77> me?
#3897 [20:29] <mib_qfp0ze> no voxelhead said sothing
#3898 [20:30] <mib_qfp0ze> **somthing
#3899 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead was giving you directions to follow, yes.
#3900 [20:30] <mib_qfp0ze> thanks
#3901 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> alexwilliamjones77: now that you have just installed XP SP3, go to Windows Update and make sure you have all of the post-SP3 updates for your system.
#3902 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> Keep going back until it tells you there are no more updates.
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#3904 [20:32] <alexwilliamjones77> how do I get to windows update?
#3905 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
#3906 [20:35] <Jackson413> anyone wanna laugh so hard they cry?
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#3908 [20:35] <Jackson413> http://pastebin.com/PYVVEUJk
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#3910 [20:35] <alexwilliamjones77> DopeGhoti that link is "unavailable" right now for me
#3911 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> o.O
#3912 [20:35] <alexwilliamjones77> yeah, weird
#3913 [20:36] <alexwilliamjones77> "this sight may be temporarily down... etc."
#3914 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> hmm, strange
#3915 [20:36] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti: check out that link
#3916 [20:36] <Jackson413> http://pastebin.com/PYVVEUJk
#3917 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> try www.windowsupdate.com
#3918 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> it goes to the same place
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#3920 [20:37] <mib_kwrk13> i need help
#3921 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_kwrk13 ask
#3922 [20:37] <VoxelHead> mib_kwrk13: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3923 [20:37] <VoxelHead> mib_kwrk13: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3924 [20:37] <alexwilliamjones77> Error 101 (net::ERR_CONNECTION_RESET): The connection was reset.
#3925 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: Yes, and?
#3926 [20:37] <alexwilliamjones77> that's what it says near the botom
#3927 [20:37] <alexwilliamjones77> if that means anything
#3928 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> alexwilliamjones77: oh, let me guess: you're using Chrome?
#3929 [20:37] <mib_kwrk13> i purchased premium and it doesnt work
#3930 [20:37] <alexwilliamjones77> Yes
#3931 [20:38] <mib_kwrk13> what should i do
#3932 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> Because Microsoft is evil and stupid and evil, the WindowsUpdate site only works in IE. :/
#3933 [20:38] <Jackson413> you didnt laugh lol
#3934 [20:38] <Wug> mib: 1) type the following into the chat: "/nick not_from_mibbit" 2) wait a day
#3935 [20:38] <mib_kwrk13> does anyone know what i should dp
#3936 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> mib_kwrk13: how long ago did you make the purchase?
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#3939 [20:39] <mib_qfp0ze> came back from creating a new profile to fix the video card problem i was told this means im sol true?
#3940 [20:39] <mib_kwrk13> more thne two hurs ago
#3941 [20:40] <Wug> this is not a sentence. use punctuation. ^
#3942 [20:40] <mib_kwrk13> more then two hours ago.
#3943 [20:40] <Wug> wait a while
#3944 [20:40] <mib_kwrk13> what do you mean
#3945 [20:40] <mib_kwrk13> i waited more hen an hour
#3946 [20:40] <Wug> wait a few more hours.
#3947 [20:40] <Wug> have a little patience
#3948 [20:41] <mib_kwrk13> ok
#3949 [20:41] <mib_qfp0ze> i have the bad video card problem looking for help
#3950 [20:41] <mib_kwrk13> are you sure
#3951 [20:41] <Wug> yes I'm sure
#3952 [20:41] <mib_kwrk13> thnx guys
#3953 [20:41] <mib_kwrk13> i hope this works
#3954 [20:41] <mib_qfp0ze> i have the Radeon x 1300/x1550 series (Microsoft)
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#3956 [20:42] <Wug> if it hasnt activated in a day, send an email to payment@mojang.com or whatever the address is
#3957 [20:42] * Wug isnt sure
#3957 [20:42] <mib_kwrk13> ok
#3958 [20:42] <Wug> your video card is ancient. it might help if you could upgrade it
#3959 [20:43] <Wug> it wasnt meant to run on hardware that old
#3960 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> mib_kwrk13: with what means did you make the purchase? PayPal? Credit card?
#3961 [20:43] <mib_kwrk13> credit card
#3962 [20:43] <mib_kwrk13> debit****
#3963 [20:43] <mib_qfp0ze> ok so that is my problem?
#3964 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> Those transactions take longer to process, sometimes up to a couple days.
#3965 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> usually just a few hours though.
#3966 [20:43] <mib_qfp0ze> at least part of it?
#3967 [20:44] <Wug> its at least part of it
#3968 [20:44] <mib_qfp0ze> ok thankyou
#3969 [20:44] <Wug> if you know anyone who's technically adept, you could ask them for help
#3970 [20:44] <Wug> we can't do anything without having access to the machine
#3971 [20:44] <Wug> also lol dopeghoti
#3972 [20:45] <Wug> windows update only works from ie because no other browser would ever accept something that is as bad an idea as an activex control
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#3975 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> Wug: Like I said. Evil and stupid and evil
#3976 [20:47] <boblo> um
#3977 [20:47] <boblo> hello
#3978 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> though at least in Windows 6 they _finally_ moved it to a proper control panel
#3979 [20:47] <boblo> i need some help
#3980 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> hi, boblo
#3981 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> ??> boblo ask
#3982 [20:47] <VoxelHead> boblo: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3983 [20:47] <VoxelHead> boblo: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3984 [20:48] <boblo> um... i looked all over the web for how to host a minecraft server with JUST a modem,but i couldnt find any. when i tried the hamachi method, i could log in, but my friend couldnt
#3985 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> well, first off
#3986 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> ?? fubar/hamachi
#3987 [20:49] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#3988 [20:49] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#3989 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> secondly, when you say 'just a modem', you mean as in with no router?
#3990 [20:49] <boblo> but can i port foward with a modem?
#3991 [20:50] <boblo> yes, i mean no router
#3992 [20:51] <Wug> you shouldnt have to pf with no router
#3993 [20:51] <Wug> you might be encountering a firewall issue
#3994 [20:51] <Wug> also make sure you're giving out the correct ip
#3995 [20:51] <boblo> i turned my firewall off though(also antivirus)
#3996 [20:51] <boblo> i gave my friend ip from ipchicken
#3997 [20:52] <boblo> is this correct?
#3998 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> that is indeed all you should have to do
#3999 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> well
#4000 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> that and actually start the server.
#4001 [20:54] <boblo> i started the server too
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#4003 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> Is your server running right now?
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#4006 [20:57] <boblo> no
#4007 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> mind starting it so's we can test?
#4008 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> (fair warning; I'm not going to be here terribly much longer)
#4009 [20:58] <boblo> ok
#4010 [20:58] <boblo> wait
#4011 [20:58] <boblo> (1.5_01)
#4012 [20:58] <Jackson413> [20:56] *** Pymous_ quit (Quit: Federal Agents!!! OPEN UP!!!... Shit!!! *delete* *delete* *delete* *delete* *delete* *delete* *delete*)
#4013 [20:58] <boblo> 208.120.124.120
#4014 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> !check user-387gv3o.cable.mindspring.com
#4015 [20:59] <boblo> ip chicken says so
#4016 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> your computer is running Windows, yes?
#4017 [20:59] <boblo> windows 7
#4018 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> okay
#4019 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> tap the Windows key, type 'cmd' and press Enter.
#4020 [20:59] <boblo> k
#4021 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> you should see a black command prompt window open
#4022 [21:00] <boblo> yea
#4023 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> type the following command: ipconfig -all | find "IP"
#4024 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> let me know what it says for your IPv4 Address.
#4025 [21:01] <boblo> 208.120.124.120(preferred)
#4026 [21:02] <DopeGhoti> Well, if the server is indeed running, something is blocking it
#4027 [21:02] <boblo> what is?
#4028 [21:02] <DopeGhoti> You are certain that there are no firewalls or similar programs running?
#4029 [21:02] <boblo> hmm i think so
#4030 [21:03] <boblo> yes
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#4032 [21:04] <boblo> NOW it is COMPLETELY OFF
#4033 [21:05] <Wug> boblo, click here and verify that the ip you are seeing is the same as the other one: www.whatismyip.com
#4034 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> Well, I see a bunch of open ports, but none of them are Minecraft
#4035 [21:05] <boblo> 208.120.124.120
#4036 [21:05] <Wug> also, if you have anything in the server-ip line in server.properties, clear it
#4037 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> http://pastebin.com/QgUNx9tb
#4038 [21:07] <boblo> how do i open ports
#4039 [21:08] <Wug> did you change your server.properties at all
#4040 [21:09] <boblo> yes, only online mode=false(for my friend) and i did ip, but i erased as u said to do
#4041 [21:09] <Wug> retry
#4042 [21:09] <Wug> run server again
#4043 [21:09] <boblo> k
#4044 [21:09] <boblo> done
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#4046 [21:09] <boblo> working?
#4047 [21:09] <Wug> i can login now
#4048 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> !check 208.120.124.120
#4049 [21:09] <boblo> so its working?
#4050 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> looks that way.
#4051 [21:10] <Wug> it was the server.properties
#4052 [21:10] <boblo> oh
#4053 [21:10] <boblo> so its working right?
#4054 [21:10] <mib_2hwaui> Does minecraft work on the mac?
#4055 [21:10] <Wug> server-ip has a very specific use and should be left blank in most cases
#4056 [21:10] <Wug> yes
#4057 [21:10] <Wug> minecraft is cross platform
#4058 [21:10] <mib_2hwaui> ok thank you
#4059 [21:10] <boblo> TY VERY MUCH IMA SRY ABOUT CAPS BUT THATS HOW TY I AM
#4060 [21:11] <Wug> dopeghoti shame on you
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#4062 [21:11] <mib_zc0t7t> AAAAH i need help
#4063 [21:11] <Wug> not immediately suspecting that it was a server-ip issue
#4064 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> what'd I do?
#4065 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> oh
#4066 [21:11] <boblo> stopping server(is it lagging?)
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#4068 [21:12] <Wug> im not on
#4069 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> that's why we have more than one person in here (:
#4070 [21:12] <boblo> like before
#4071 [21:12] <Wug> i hopped on to check if it worked
#4072 [21:12] <mib_zc0t7t> whenever i try and run minecraft, it works fine until i go and pick my world. It stalls for a big and i just get the backdrop of the menu screen for a bit, then there is a flash of a command prompt on a blue backdrop. Then it just turns black and nothing happens.
#4073 [21:12] <mib_zc0t7t> Wat do?
#4074 [21:12] <boblo> when u were on were u lagging
#4075 [21:12] <Wug> run it from the command line and pastebin the error you get
#4076 [21:13] <Wug> boblo i dont think so
#4077 [21:13] <mib_zc0t7t> me?
#4078 [21:13] <boblo> k
#4079 [21:13] <Wug> yes you
#4080 [21:13] <mib_zc0t7t> how do I run it from the command line?
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#4082 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> Any Python-fu masters herein?
#4083 [21:13] <Wug> command prompt -> drag and drop minecraft.exe onto it -> hit enter
#4084 [21:13] <Wug> i know a little python-fu
#4085 [21:13] <mib_zc0t7t> okey dokey smokey.
#4086 [21:14] <Wug> no deep sorcery, but the basics and a bit more
#4087 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> I am looking for a more elegant way of splitting a long line into Minecraft-chat-sized bites
#4088 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> http://pastebin.com/JR5z3tMZ is what I came up with at 3:00 this morning
#4089 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> but I'm sure there's a more elegant way to do it.
#4090 [21:15] <mib_zc0t7t> it wont let me drag and drop minecraft.exe into command prompt. Any other way I can do it?
#4091 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> mib_zc0t7t: I am 100% certain that that works.
#4092 [21:16] <Wug> it should just enter the name for you
#4093 [21:17] <mib_zc0t7t> I tried typing everything out, and it loaded fine
#4094 [21:17] <Wug> dope, if you mean you want to split it and keep words intact, thats probably the best you'll get
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#4096 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> Wug: The think that's still irking me is the special case for catching the last partial line
#4097 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> er, thing
#4098 [21:18] <mib_zc0t7t> like I said, when I try and load a world, I get the menu backdrop for a bit, then there suddenly it flashes a command prompt on a blue backdrop. In browser at that point it just turns black, in exe it exits
#4099 [21:18] <Wug> is there an error message in the command line?
#4100 [21:18] <mib_zc0t7t> no
#4101 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> Wug: well, thanks for taking a look at it for me (:
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#4105 [21:20] <mib_zc0t7t> hold on I'll try and get a print screen of the command prompt thing that flashes
#4106 [21:20] <Wug> mib_zc0t7t, try running this: javaw -jar <minecraft launcher>
#4107 [21:21] <Wug> replace <minecraft launcher> with the full path of the launcher
#4108 [21:22] <Wug> if you get an error about 'java not recognized as a command blah blah blah', go here and follow instructions: www.google.com/search?q=add+java+to+path
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#4110 [21:23] <dopeghoti> Wug: I think there's a FAQ for that
#4111 [21:23] <dopeghoti> but I'm goin' home. Ciao (:
#4112 [21:23] <mib_zc0t7t> it says unable to access jarfile.
#4113 [21:23] <mr_pants> i run the game and it gos to the mojang screen and turns off i redownloade it to
#4114 [21:23] <mr_pants> still doesnt work
#4115 [21:24] <Wug> you remembered that the launcher is a .exe and not a .jar right?
#4116 [21:24] <mr_pants> yeah
#4117 [21:24] <Wug> mr_pants, what's your mc username
#4118 [21:24] <mr_pants> jjmr213
#4119 [21:24] <Wug> !paid jjmr213
#4120 [21:24] <mib_zc0t7t> I print screened and saw what the screen that flashes for a split second says. It says Minecraft has crashed and to e-mail the full text to Mojang support but it doesn't last long enough for me to copy it or even read it
#4121 [21:25] <Wug> mib_zc0t7t, stop trying and tell me:
#4122 [21:25] <Wug> you remembered that the launcher is a .exe and not a .jar right?
#4123 [21:25] <mr_pants> yeah
#4124 [21:25] <Wug> you spelled everything right?
#4125 [21:25] <mr_pants> yes
#4126 [21:25] <mib_zc0t7t> yup
#4127 [21:25] <Wug> mr_pants, we are not all talking to you
#4128 [21:25] <mr_pants> k
#4129 [21:25] <Wug> one at a time
#4130 [21:25] <mr_pants> lol
#4131 [21:26] <mib_zc0t7t> I didn't put .exe or .jar, just Minecraft. And before that made it load fine.
#4132 [21:26] <Wug> mib, you spelled it wrong
#4133 [21:26] <Wug> when I told you to run it with that command
#4134 [21:26] <Wug> what exactly did you try to run
#4135 [21:26] <Wug> paste the command here
#4136 [21:27] <mib_zc0t7t> ugh why can't you copy in command prompt.
#4137 [21:27] <Wug> right click -> mark
#4138 [21:27] <Wug> press enter to copy to clipboard
#4139 [21:27] <Wug> click and drag to select
#4140 [21:27] <mib_zc0t7t> javaw -jar C:\Users\adam\Documents\Downloads\Minecraft
#4141 [21:27] <Wug> theres no .exe
#4142 [21:28] <Wug> y u lie to me
#4143 [21:28] <Wug> u said you remembered it was a .exe
#4144 [21:28] <mib_zc0t7t> what i meant was, i didn't put it as a jar :p
#4145 [21:28] <mib_zc0t7t> i didn't put like minecraft.jar
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#4147 [21:28] <AG_Scott> GreyVulpine, you there?
#4148 [21:28] <Wug> C:\Users\adam\Documents\Downloads\Minecraft is the minecraft launcher exe?
#4149 [21:28] <AG_Scott> or xales
#4150 [21:29] <AG_Scott> wake up :(
#4151 [21:29] <mib_zc0t7t> yeah
#4152 [21:29] <Wug> theres no .exe on the end?
#4153 [21:29] <mib_zc0t7t> wait
#4154 [21:29] <xales> Hi AG_Scott
#4155 [21:29] <mib_zc0t7t> no
#4156 [21:29] <mib_zc0t7t> no .exe
#4157 [21:29] <Wug> you must have file extensions off
#4158 [21:29] <AG_Scott> xales, cross ban *@c-71-203-167-161.hsd1.fl.comcast.net $a:Danmonkey
#4159 [21:29] <Wug> ag_scott, I think thats a bit unreasonable for an nsfw
#4160 [21:30] <Wug> but whatever
#4161 [21:30] <AG_Scott> No, it's really not
#4162 [21:30] <xales> Wug: It's NSFW with malicious intent
#4163 [21:30] <AG_Scott> Not up for discussion anyways.
#4164 [21:30] <xales> :)
#4165 [21:30] <mib_zc0t7t> I did not mean to lie to you Wug. You are a wonderful human being
#4166 [21:30] <mib_zc0t7t> <3
#4167 [21:30] <Wug> :)
#4168 [21:32] <mib_zc0t7t> i tried using the command prompt javaw -jar C:\Users\adam\Documents\Downloads\Minecraft.exe and it loaded, but same problem
#4169 [21:32] <xales> mib_zc0t7t: What problem are you experiencing?
#4170 [21:32] <Wug> use java instead of javaw *derp derp*
#4171 [21:32] <mib_zc0t7t> o
#4172 [21:32] <Wug> it should display the error on the command prompt
#4173 [21:32] <Wug> then pastebin it
#4174 [21:33] <Wug> that was my fault
#4175 [21:33] <Wug> javaw releases stdout when run, java does not
#4176 [21:34] <xales> Wug: http://bofh.ntk.net/BOFH/index.php
#4177 [21:34] <xales> :>
#4178 [21:34] <mib_zc0t7t> same thing. An error message does pop up when I try and load a world but it doesn't stay long enough for me to read it.
#4179 [21:34] <mib_zc0t7t> and no error in my command prompt
#4180 [21:34] <Wug> hmm
#4181 [21:34] <xales> mib_zc0t7t: Download minecraft.jar and change Minecraft.exe to minecraft.jar
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#4183 [21:36] <mib_zc0t7t> same thing
#4184 [21:37] <xales> No error in the console?
#4185 [21:37] <mib_zc0t7t> console? the command prompt?
#4186 [21:37] <mib_zc0t7t> no
#4187 [21:37] <mib_zc0t7t> is console the window minecraft is in?
#4188 [21:37] <xales> No, console = command prompt
#4189 [21:38] <xales> Hmm.
#4190 [21:38] <mib_zc0t7t> no error there
#4191 [21:38] <xales> When do you get the error?
#4192 [21:38] <mib_zc0t7t> after I try and load a world.
#4193 [21:38] <mib_zc0t7t> And it stays for not even a second
#4194 [21:38] <xales> Does it do it when you make a new world?
#4195 [21:38] <mib_zc0t7t> let me try
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#4197 [21:39] <Wug> is anything printing to the console at all when you run it?
#4198 [21:39] <mib_zc0t7t> nothing at all
#4199 [21:39] <mib_zc0t7t> and no i can create new worlds fine
#4200 [21:39] <xales> Your world is corrupted then.
#4201 [21:39] <Wug> do you have any mods
#4202 [21:39] <xales> Open it with MCEdit, and re-save it\
#4203 [21:40] <mib_zc0t7t> I don't have any mods
#4204 [21:40] <mib_zc0t7t> And where do I get MCEdit? >.>
#4205 [21:40] <mib_zc0t7t> I will google
#4206 [21:40] <mib_zc0t7t> :p
#4207 [21:40] <xales> http://bofh.ntk.net/BOFH/index.php
#4208 [21:40] <xales> bah
#4209 [21:40] <xales> wrong link
#4210 [21:40] <xales> http://tinyurl.com/2cxgm7a
#4211 [21:40] <xales> there
#4212 [21:41] <mib_zc0t7t> :)
#4213 [21:41] <mib_sp0jtj> I tried to update the minecraft game but it said Fatal error occurred (4)
#4214 [21:41] <xales> ??> mib_sp0jtj win/reinst
#4215 [21:41] <VoxelHead> mib_sp0jtj: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4216 [21:41] <VoxelHead> mib_sp0jtj: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4217 [21:42] <mib_sp0jtj> I have a mac
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#4219 [21:42] <xales> ??> mib_sp0jtj mac/reinst
#4220 [21:42] <VoxelHead> mib_sp0jtj: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4221 [21:42] <VoxelHead> mib_sp0jtj: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4222 [21:42] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> Hello all :)
#4223 [21:43] <xales> Hi.
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#4225 [21:45] <mib_zc0t7t> ok new question
#4226 [21:45] <mib_zc0t7t> how do I open my world in MCedit? I have never loaded the world before on my computer- always used browser. Is it possible?
#4227 [21:45] <xales> Yes
#4228 [21:45] <xales> You open it, then you just browse to the AppData folder
#4229 [21:46] <mib_sp0jtj> it still did not work
#4230 [21:46] <mib_zc0t7t> there not showing up. Only the brand new one
#4231 [21:46] <mib_zc0t7t> they're *
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#4233 [21:47] <fuogo> Derp
#4234 [21:48] <xales> mib_sp0jtj: Are you trying to play Classic, or Beta?
#4235 [21:48] <mib_zc0t7t> Beta
#4236 [21:48] <xales> I was asking the other person ._.
#4237 [21:48] <mib_zc0t7t> o
#4238 [21:48] <xales> If they aren't showing up, they are probably corrupted beyond repair.
#4239 [21:48] <mib_sp0jtj> how do u know
#4240 [21:49] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> I'm running the Minecraft server, from the minecraft.net website (I'm registered) on Ubuntu server. I've googled, but haven't come up with an answer as to why I (op) can break and place blocks, but my friend can't place them. Is there a flag I'm missing in my server.properties file? http://pastebin.com/TS7g8WZv
#4241 [21:49] <xales> mib_sp0jtj: Beta is the one with enemies and crafting.
#4242 [21:49] <xales> xX_Spiid3y_Xx: have your friend move away from the spawn
#4243 [21:50] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> they have. I've even TP'd them to me :S
#4244 [21:50] <mib_zc0t7t> What do I do? my saves aren't showing up in MCEdit
#4245 [21:50] <xales> How far away
#4246 [21:50] <xales> mib_zc0t7t: As I said, they are probably completely gone or corrupted beyond the ability to be fixed
#4247 [21:50] <mib_zc0t7t> o
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#4249 [21:51] <mib_zc0t7t> damn
#4250 [21:51] <mib_zc0t7t> ok thanks
#4251 [21:51] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> xales: Hard to say how far from their spawn... Half the world maybe?
#4252 [21:52] <xales> Are they able to break blocks if you op them?
#4253 [21:52] <mib_sp0jtj> ok I am back and Beta
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#4255 [21:53] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> xales: they were able to break them without being OP'd. I just didn't want to hand out OP willy-nilly
#4256 [21:53] <xales> mib_sp0jtj: Are you using the .app or trying to play in the browser?
#4257 [21:54] <mib_sp0jtj> for me the app
#4258 [21:54] <xales> See if it works in the browser.
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#4260 [21:55] <mib_sp0jtj> ok how
#4261 [21:55] * obi_wan [obi_wan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4262 [21:55] <xales> Go to Minecraft.net
#4263 [21:55] <xales> log in
#4264 [21:55] <mib_sp0jtj> ya
#4265 [21:55] <xales> click the play button
#4266 [21:55] <xales> ._.
#4267 [21:55] <mib_4hxwkx> hey i need help with java
#4268 [21:55] <xales> mib_4hxwkx: Care to be more specific?
#4269 [21:55] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> mib_4hxwkx: platform? issue?
#4270 [21:55] <obi_wan> the free version just has a black screen what do i do?
#4271 [21:55] <mib_sp0jtj> no and it did not work
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#4273 [21:56] <xales> obi_wan: Do you have Java installed?
#4274 [21:56] <obi_wan> yeah
#4275 [21:56] <mib_4hxwkx> when i try run MC it says yes
#4276 [21:56] <xales> Re-install it
#4277 [21:56] <xales> Derp.
#4278 [21:56] <mib_sp0jtj> ok
#4279 [21:56] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> roffle
#4280 [21:56] <aetherian> herp
#4281 [21:58] <mib_sp0jtj> ok it is installing
#4282 [21:58] <mib_sp0jtj> ok i did that
#4283 [21:59] <mib_sp0jtj> and it still dose not work
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#4285 [21:59] <xales> mib_sp0jtj: What exactly is the error you are getting?
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#4288 [22:01] <mib_sp0jtj> Fatal error occured (4): /Users/coleschemmel/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin/jinput.jar
#4289 [22:02] <xales> And you deleted the bin folder?
#4290 [22:02] <mib_sp0jtj> ya
#4291 [22:02] <xales> Did it re-download when you did that?
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#4293 [22:03] <mib_sp0jtj> oh one second
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#4295 [22:04] <mib_sp0jtj> ok i did that and it still did not work
#4296 [22:04] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> @mib_sp0jtj: Java's up-to-date on your computer?
#4297 [22:05] * mib_kxbv2a [mib_kxbv2a@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4298 [22:05] <xales> xX_Spiid3y_Xx: It's a mac - it updates with the system
#4299 [22:05] <xales> mib_sp0jtj: What version of OS X?
#4300 [22:05] <mib_sp0jtj> 10.6.7
#4301 [22:06] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> I know - I'm on my MBP right now. Some people just don't update, or miss some
#4302 [22:06] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> ok, so it's snow leopard. Open a terminal and type: java -version
#4303 [22:06] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> please :)
#4304 [22:06] <xales> mib_sp0jtj: Do you have any input devices connected to the computer except for the mouse? A tablet or some such?
#4305 [22:06] <mib_kxbv2a> why cant i run the downloaded minecraft? I'm using windows
#4306 [22:07] <mib_sp0jtj> no
#4307 [22:07] <xales> mib_kxbv2a: Why can't you? What happens when you try?
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#4309 [22:08] <mib_kxbv2a> Well when i try, i get an error message stating the java virtual machine could not be created
#4310 [22:08] <xales> How much RAM does your computer have?
#4311 [22:08] <mib_kxbv2a> I wouldnt know, im not tech savy at all.
#4312 [22:08] <mib_sp0jtj> my java is 1.6.0_24
#4313 [22:08] <xales> ??> mib_kxbv2a win/dxdiag
#4314 [22:08] <VoxelHead> mib_kxbv2a: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
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#4316 [22:08] <VoxelHead> mib_kxbv2a: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#4318 [22:09] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> ok, so java isn't your problem, mib_sp0jtj>
#4319 [22:09] <xales> mib_sp0jtj: Does it work in the browser?
#4320 [22:09] <xales> (Did I already ask that? I forget. D:)
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#4322 [22:10] <mib_sp0jtj> me
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#4325 [22:10] <mib_kxbv2a> i dont have anything that says save log
#4326 [22:10] <xales> What?
#4327 [22:10] <xales> mib_kxbv2a: It's "save all information"
#4328 [22:10] <mib_kxbv2a> oh
#4329 [22:10] <mib_8m3jev> I bought the game how if possible can I move to computer with no internet
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#4331 [22:11] <brennsterr> i downloaded the game on three different macs and none of the files are under application support
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#4333 [22:11] <xales> mib_8m3jev: Play it for a few seconds, then close it. Copy the .minecraft folder to the same location on the offline computer
#4334 [22:11] <Wug> follow the instructions on the website more carefully
#4335 [22:12] <xales> brennsterr: Are you looking in /Library/Application\ Support or /Users/(name)/Library/Application\ Support?
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#4337 [22:12] <brennsterr> library/application support
#4338 [22:12] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> ah.
#4339 [22:12] <brennsterr> from the macintosh hd sidebar
#4340 [22:12] <xales> That is the wrong one.
#4341 [22:12] <claude> hello?
#4342 [22:12] <xales> Hi.
#4343 [22:12] <mib_kxbv2a> ok which link?
#4344 [22:12] <xales> mib_kxbv2a: After you click Submit, it's the one in the address bar
#4345 [22:12] <mib_sp0jtj> Too many people
#4346 [22:13] <mib_kxbv2a> http://pastebin.com/CEr3y9cx
#4347 [22:13] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> it's under ~/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft/ brennsterr
#4348 [22:13] <brennsterr> but when i do a search for 'minecraft' all i get is the download folder and the launcher
#4349 [22:13] <claude> can someone help me with a problem
#4350 [22:13] <xales> brennsterr: It doesn't search in the library folder
#4351 [22:14] <brennsterr> that is where i am looking
#4352 [22:14] <xales> claude: Only if you tell us what the problem is
#4353 [22:14] <xales> brennsterr: There is more than one Library folder. Do this.
#4354 [22:14] <xales> Open Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal
#4355 [22:14] <claude> I'v downloaded mine craft but it isn't working
#4356 [22:14] <xales> Type "open ~/Library/Application\ Support/minecraft" and hit enter
#4357 [22:14] <xales> don't type the quotes
#4358 [22:14] <xales> claude: How is it not working?
#4359 [22:14] <mib_kxbv2a> i posted the link
#4360 [22:14] <xales> mib_kxbv2a: Do you have any "Internet Security" or firewall software installed?
#4361 [22:14] <claude> it used to work but for some reason its not running
#4362 [22:15] <xales> claude: What happens when you try to run it?
#4363 [22:15] <mib_kxbv2a> yes
#4364 [22:15] <xales> mib_kxbv2a: What?
#4365 [22:15] <brennsterr> ok thank you. i may be back soon for help on a mod.
#4366 [22:15] <claude> i click it and it asks me if i want to run it when i say yes nothing happens
#4367 [22:15] <mib_kxbv2a> ive got AVG
#4368 [22:15] <xales> mib_kxbv2a: The free version, or the full (paid) version?
#4369 [22:16] <mib_kxbv2a> free
#4370 [22:16] <xales> ??> claude win/reinst
#4371 [22:16] <VoxelHead> claude: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4372 [22:16] <VoxelHead> claude: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#4375 [22:16] <claude> ok i'll try that thanks
#4376 [22:16] <xales> mib_kxbv2a: Go to Control Panel, and find the uninstall option (It's called Programs and Features on Windows Vista or 7, and Add and Remove Programs on windows XP)
#4377 [22:16] <xales> then uninstall every version of Java that you see, and restart your computer
#4378 [22:16] <xales> After that, install Java again, from the Java website (google it)
#4379 [22:17] <mib_kxbv2a> what about sun? ive read to uninstall that too
#4380 [22:18] <mib_kxbv2a> nevermind that
#4381 [22:18] <mib_kxbv2a> what do i do after i restart
#4382 [22:18] <xales> Go to the Java website and install it
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#4384 [22:20] <claude> it didn't work
#4385 [22:21] <xales> Re-install Java.
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#4387 [22:22] <Timmooo> test
#4388 [22:22] <Timmooo> Ah good :)
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#4393 [22:26] <claude> um can someone else help me
#4394 [22:26] <claude> minecraft still isn't working
#4395 [22:26] <claude> hello?
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#4397 [22:27] <claude> ......
#4398 [22:27] <Supradam> does it show "Updating Minecraft" with "done loading" under it and an almost full bar?
#4399 [22:27] <claude> no
#4400 [22:27] <Supradam> that's my problem
#4401 [22:27] <mib_9ttynj> i have a glitch where my fence is not showing up.
#4402 [22:28] <claude> are u loading it on your computer or from the web broser
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#4404 [22:28] <claude> excuse my spelling
#4405 [22:28] <Supradam> I've tried both with the exact same result
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#4409 [22:28] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> claude, you still around?
#4410 [22:29] <kermi> How do I transfer game to offline computer with harddrive
#4411 [22:29] <mib_7khax2> ok so i was here a little while ago and did all that stuff, now what?
#4412 [22:29] <claude> hm my problem is that mincraft won't run on my coumputer
#4413 [22:29] <mib_9ttynj> im just sort of annoyed at the glitch cuz i keep on trying to walk through invisible fence
#4414 [22:29] <claude> and it crashes when i load it from my web brouser
#4415 [22:30] <claude> yes im still here xX_Spiid3y_Xx
#4416 [22:30] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> claude: did you try reinstalling java like xales asked?
#4417 [22:30] <claude> no
#4418 [22:30] <mib_7khax2> xales you told me to uninstall my java, which i did, and i have restarted, and i have reinstalled it
#4419 [22:30] <Jackson413> can i still do fire everything
#4420 [22:30] <Jackson413> Voxel, fire everything at yo_mama
#4421 [22:30] <claude> but he didn't tell me to do that
#4422 [22:30] <Jackson413> Voxelhead, fire everything at yo_mama
#4423 [22:30] * Jackson413 sadface
#4423 [22:30] <Jackson413> sure what up
#4424 [22:30] <Jackson413> specs?
#4425 [22:30] <Jackson413> >?
#4426 [22:30] <Jackson413> yeah try putting something on top of it
#4427 [22:30] <mib_9ttynj> where do you report a glitch?
#4428 [22:30] <claude> he was talking to someone else
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#4430 [22:31] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> claude: my bad
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#4432 [22:31] <Timmooo> Anyone here able to tell me why I can't seem to talk in #minecraft? =\
#4433 [22:31] <Jackson413> why am i spamming?
#4434 [22:31] <Wug> you probably haven't registered your nickname
#4435 [22:31] <xales> ??> Timmooo irc
#4436 [22:31] <VoxelHead> Timmooo: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#4437 [22:31] <VoxelHead> Timmooo: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#4438 [22:31] <mib_7khax2> xales, what now?
#4439 [22:32] <xales> mib_7khax2: Does it work?
#4440 [22:32] <xales> Supradam: Are you still here?
#4441 [22:32] <mib_7khax2> no
#4442 [22:32] <Jackson413> xales: any reason why AuBot said i spammed"?'
#4443 [22:32] <xales> You sent too many messages
#4444 [22:32] <Supradam> yes, xales, I'm here
#4445 [22:32] <xales> ??> mib_7khax2 win/profile
#4446 [22:32] <VoxelHead> mib_7khax2: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4447 [22:32] <Jackson413> i sent like one
#4448 [22:32] <VoxelHead> mib_7khax2: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#4449 [22:32] <xales> ??> Supradam win/reinst
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#4451 [22:32] <VoxelHead> Supradam: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4452 [22:32] <VoxelHead> Supradam: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4453 [22:32] <claude> my problem is that minecraft isn't running on my computer and i have tried re-instaling it but it still wouldn't run
#4454 [22:32] <xales> ??> claude win/dxdiag
#4455 [22:32] <VoxelHead> claude: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#4456 [22:32] <VoxelHead> claude: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#4457 [22:33] <mib_9ttynj> DOES ANY1 KNOW WHERE TO REPORT GLITCHES????
#4458 [22:33] <xales> mib_9ttynj: Chill out.
#4459 [22:33] <Evil_mollstam> mib_9ttynj, spam@64pixels.org
#4460 [22:33] <Jackson413> I CAN TALK IN CAPS TOO YA KNOW!!!
#4461 [22:33] <xales> http://getstatisfaction.com/mojang That link isonly all over the place
#4462 [22:33] * xales kicked Jackson413 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ...)
#4463 [22:33] <Wug> oo oo kick me too
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#4465 [22:33] <claude> ok
#4466 [22:33] <Evil_mollstam> I seem to be on xales' back
#4467 [22:33] <Evil_mollstam> JOCKEY TIME
#4468 [22:33] <mib_7khax2> ok im gonna try on a new profile
#4469 [22:33] <Jackson413> sorry im just trolling
#4470 [22:34] <Jackson413> sorry xales
#4471 [22:34] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> I had to read that trash too, ya know.
#4472 [22:34] <Jackson413> sorry @ u 2
#4473 [22:34] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> lol
#4474 [22:34] <Jackson413> anyway to block that annoying mibbit spam
#4475 [22:34] <Jackson413> we should make a bot that blocks that
#4476 [22:35] <Timmooo> oh wow
#4477 [22:35] <Timmooo> xales: My bad :p I'm so use to my nick being registered everywhere I must have completely forgotten about that :x
#4478 [22:35] * Evil_mollstam rides xales over to Jackson413 and swings his banhammer
#4478 [22:35] <Timmooo> Jackson413: What mibbit spam? O.o
#4479 [22:35] <Supradam> It seems to be working now, Thanks, xales!
#4480 [22:35] <xales> Supradam, Timmooo: Not a problem
#4481 [22:36] <Evil_mollstam> Jackson413, we do
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#4484 [22:36] <Evil_mollstam> It's just disabled so people can access help easier. If we wanted to not have mibbit, we'd have bread set an AKICK on *!Mibbit@*
#4485 [22:37] <mib_7khax2> it still isnt working
#4486 [22:37] <bread> >:D
#4487 [22:37] <Timmooo> msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Timmooo vfpgzfmirmxr
#4488 [22:37] <Timmooo> Fail D:
#4489 [22:37] <xales> Timmooo: Missed a slash there
#4490 [22:37] <Timmooo> I saw :p
#4491 [22:37] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> lol
#4492 [22:37] <dopeghoti> time to change your password.
#4493 [22:37] <xales> mib_7khax2: It's still saying "could not create Java virtual machine"?
#4494 [22:37] <Timmooo> I'm making myself look like a IRC nublet here D:
#4495 [22:37] <mib_7khax2> yep
#4496 [22:37] * Wug steals all of timmooo's accounts
#4496 [22:37] <Timmooo> dopeghoti: Nah, it was just the confirmation code :p
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#4498 [22:42] <mib_7khax2> microsoft update? I dont see windows update.
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#4500 [22:42] <claude> http://pastebin.com/0bpFer3H
#4501 [22:42] <xales> mib_7khax2: Yes, Microsoft Update
#4502 [22:42] <xales> claude: Ah. There is your issue.
#4503 [22:42] <claude> thats for VoxelHead
#4504 [22:43] <xales> claude: Voxelhead is a bot.
#4505 [22:43] <xales> Anyway, your computer doesn't come close to meeting the minimum requirements for Minecraft
#4506 [22:43] <claude> oh...
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#4508 [22:44] <Wug> well, it could probably run it with a better video card
#4509 [22:44] <Wug> its always the video card
#4510 [22:44] <claude> but my computer ran it fine in the past
#4511 [22:44] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> I have a spare video card here if you'd like.
#4512 [22:44] <claude> um ok
#4513 [22:44] <Wug> it stopped being able to play?
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#4515 [22:44] <xales> claude: As Minecraft updates, the requirements increase
#4516 [22:44] <claude> ya
#4517 [22:45] <claude> oh
#4518 [22:45] <paulrules> Great. So when I connect individually its fine but when I connect with "Autojoin on startup" it starts two different server connections.
#4519 [22:45] <xales> Given the specs of your computer...it's definately time to get a new one...
#4520 [22:45] <xales> especially if you want to be able to play modern games
#4521 [22:45] <claude> well were do i get video cards
#4522 [22:45] <Wug> the 1.5 update actually made it less intensive I think
#4523 [22:45] <Wug> anyway
#4524 [22:46] <Wug> if it was working and stopped, I'd say you could try rolling back your video card drivers
#4525 [22:46] <xales> claude: Given the age of your computer, buying a new one would be cheaper
#4526 [22:46] <xales> (A new computer, that is)
#4527 [22:46] <claude> oh
#4528 [22:46] <mib_7khax2> it says the website has encountered a problem and cannot display the page i am trying to view
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#4530 [22:47] <xales> mib_7khax2: Err...it would seem you have a pretty serious problem with your computer, then
#4531 [22:47] <xales> You should probably contact your tech support
#4532 [22:47] <Wug> could be a virus
#4533 [22:47] <Wug> they target stuff like windows updaet
#4534 [22:47] <xales> ^
#4535 [22:48] <mib_7khax2> would it help if i paste the error code?
#4536 [22:48] <Wug> yes, it very much would
#4537 [22:48] <claude> well i wouldn't be suprised if it was a virus
#4538 [22:48] <Wug> also, change your nick to something that isnt garbage
#4539 [22:48] <claude> idk how
#4540 [22:48] <xales> claude: Not you.
#4541 [22:48] <Wug> claude, yours is fine
#4542 [22:48] <claude> ok
#4543 [22:48] <Wug> im talking to mib_ertqw4tyhaw34uit2ka 4
#4544 [22:49] <Wug> /nick mibbitoid
#4545 [22:49] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> My dxdiag, if anybody was curious: http://pastebin.com/PACrprnR
#4546 [22:49] <mib_7khax2> [Error number: 0x80072EFF] plus im just trying to get help and didnt think it would be important to have a nickname
#4547 [22:50] <xales> xX_Spiid3y_Xx: Our computers are very similar O_o
#4548 [22:50] <needs> damnit
#4549 [22:50] <claude> well my computer
#4550 [22:50] <claude> sucks
#4551 [22:50] <xales> Same GPU, basically same CPU but with two more cores...
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#4554 [22:50] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> xales: nice. I'm a fan of my RAM.
#4555 [22:50] <claude> well thanks for the help
#4556 [22:50] <claude> bye
#4557 [22:51] <claude> or more like bre
#4558 [22:51] <xales> xX_Spiid3y_Xx: I only have 4GB, but I never use that much
#4559 [22:51] <claude> sorry brb
#4560 [22:51] <idc> anyways
#4561 [22:51] <Wug> idc, having a nick is good practice
#4562 [22:51] <jdawg_18> err i just died. bed says: obstructed. is there a mod or some way to teleport to where i was making my house :x
#4563 [22:51] <Wug> nobody likes having to type mib_34ydjfhgbae4kit83ah4 to get someones attention
#4564 [22:51] <xales> jdawg_18: If single-player, MCEdit. If a server, ask a server admin
#4565 [22:51] <Wug> jdawg the game comes with a teleport feature
#4566 [22:52] <idc> well i would still like to figure out the GD problem...
#4567 [22:52] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> xales: this used to be a server. When I converted from console games, I turned my AAO into a server and this into a gaming-ish rig.
#4568 [22:52] <Wug> its activated with the wasd keys
#4569 [22:52] <jdawg_18> yeah its single
#4570 [22:52] <migglepuff> Hello, on my ubuntu (11.04) parition, minecraft crashes as soon as I click single player or join a multiplayer server. It works fine on my windows. Does anyone know what this might be?
#4571 [22:52] <Wug> does it give an error messagE?
#4572 [22:52] <xales> migglepuff: Make sure you have the correct graphics card driver installed
#4573 [22:52] <Wug> probably not
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#4575 [22:52] <Wug> run it from the console with java -jar minecraft.jet
#4576 [22:52] <Wug> jar*
#4577 [22:53] <Wug> no idea where jet came from
#4578 [22:53] <Wug> make sure to cd to correct dir first
#4579 [22:53] <migglepuff> xales: I do
#4580 [22:53] <migglepuff> Wug: I am
#4581 [22:53] <Wug> pastebin the error?
#4582 [22:53] <xales> migglepuff: Does an error show up in the console?
#4583 [22:53] <migglepuff> xales: one sec
#4584 [22:54] <Wug> minecraft should have an option to automatically send stack traces to mojang on crash
#4585 [22:54] <Wug> would make fixing bugs much easier on their end
#4586 [22:55] <idc> how do i enable it to connect, cause im trying to make my security accept the urls it said and i dont know how, btw i have AVG 2011 Free version as stated before
#4587 [22:55] <migglepuff> http://pastebin.com/tWcWQaBi
#4588 [22:55] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> migglepuff
#4589 [22:55] <xX_Spiid3y_Xx> you're using openJDK
#4590 [22:56] <Wug> stop using openjdk, use the sun java package insted
#4591 [22:56] <migglepuff> one, sec Ill run it with sun
#4592 [22:56] <migglepuff> smae thing happens
#4593 [22:56] <Wug> exact same thing?
#4594 [22:57] <Wug> you're quite sure its running with the sun java as well?
#4595 [22:57] <Wug> I had a whale of a time removing openjdk, I had to scrounge most of it out manually because it persisted after the uninstallation
#4596 [22:58] <Wug> so do java -version and verify that it's really using the sun package
#4597 [22:58] <migglepuff> this is the output with sun java: http://pastebin.com/vQAnMBN4
#4598 [22:58] <idc> holy crap why isnt any of this frickin working
#4599 [22:58] <migglepuff> also, java -version gives: java version "1.6.0_25" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_25-b06) Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode)
#4600 [22:59] <Wug> k, have you tried a force update
#4601 [22:59] <Wug> ^ stupid solution but hey
#4602 [23:00] <idc> [Error number: 0x80072EFF]
#4603 [23:01] <idc> thats my error code on the update window
#4604 [23:01] <xales> idc: As I said, you have a serious computer problem and should contact tech support
#4605 [23:01] <migglepuff> Wug: It still seems borken
#4606 [23:02] <Wug> idc, do what xales says
#4607 [23:02] <xales> migglepuff: Can you give us the full error, from /home/matt/games/hs_err_pid4457.log
#4608 [23:03] <migglepuff> xales: one sec, let me read over it to make sure there's nothing personal in it
#4609 [23:03] <Wug> it probably wont be more useful
#4610 [23:03] <migglepuff> its pretty detailed ;)
#4611 [23:03] <Wug> just contents of registers and such
#4612 [23:04] <migglepuff> did you want the openjre or the sun one?
#4613 [23:04] <Wug> sun
#4614 [23:04] <Wug> sun's java tends to perform better at minecraft
#4615 [23:07] <migglepuff> here we are: http://pastebin.com/3btgXyhr
#4616 [23:07] <xales> blrblrblr
#4617 [23:07] <xales> that's what I thought
#4618 [23:07] <xales> ATI's Linux support is...well... []
#4619 [23:07] <migglepuff> :)
#4620 [23:08] <xales> I think you can fix that specific error by updating lwjgl, but it's no simple task
#4621 [23:08] <Wug> he's a proficient linux user, not just any clueless mibbitoid
#4622 [23:08] <migglepuff> is lwjgl provided by my system or somewhere in the minecraft jar?
#4623 [23:08] <Wug> I think he's up for it
#4624 [23:09] <Wug> its provided by minecraft
#4625 [23:09] <Wug> its in the bin directory somewhere
#4626 [23:09] <migglepuff> do i need to do anything besides replacing it?
#4627 [23:09] <Wug> probably not
#4628 [23:09] <xales> Nope, just replace the lwjgl binaries in .minecraft/bin and .minecraft/bin/natives
#4629 [23:09] <Wug> ask xales how to do it, I have no idea
#4630 [23:10] <Wug> also, thank you.
#4631 [23:10] <migglepuff> should I use the latest lwjgl or a specific version?
#4632 [23:10] <Wug> you're the first person who had enough brains to know what I mean when I said 'do a java -version'
#4633 [23:10] <jdawg_18> tried usin mcedit, cant find my old house :x im stuck in the middle of nowheere
#4634 [23:11] <Wug> jdawg. walk
#4635 [23:11] <Wug> its not hard
#4636 [23:11] <Wug> your items wont despawn unless you load the chunk they're in, which pretty much means you'll be close enough to see it
#4637 [23:11] <jdawg_18> im not worried about my items, its just that my house was way far out from the spawn point
#4638 [23:12] <Wug> search more in mcedit then
#4639 [23:12] <Wug> f3 to find your coordinates, it might help to write them down
#4640 [23:12] <Wug> you cant find coordinates in mcedit yet
#4641 [23:13] <Wug> which, imo, is insanely stupid and needs to be addressed
#4642 [23:16] <migglepuff> xales: I updated to 2.7.1 by replacing all of the things in bin/natives and jinput.jar, lwjgl.jar, and lwjgl_util.jar in bin
#4643 [23:16] <migglepuff> xales: it now just crashes at the main menu
#4644 [23:16] <Wug> any luck?
#4645 [23:16] <Wug> oh well
#4646 [23:16] <Wug> try older versions
#4647 [23:17] <migglepuff> k
#4648 [23:17] <xales> See if 2.6.9 works (I have no idea if there is even such a version, that was just what was in the front of my mind)
#4649 [23:17] <Wug> I'd start with the most recent and go backwards
#4650 [23:22] <Wug> grey, will you unmute wugbot if I make it do something useful
#4651 [23:22] <Wug> as pertains to #minecrafthelp
#4652 [23:22] <Wug> this question is also directed at xales
#4653 [23:23] <migglepuff> do either of you happen to know what version of lwjgl minecraft uses by default?
#4654 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> That question applies to whomever muted wugbot
#4655 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> I wasn't it
#4656 [23:24] <Wug> it was xales then
#4657 [23:25] <Wug> xxaaaaalllleeeesssssss
#4658 [23:25] <migglepuff> g2g, thx guys
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#4661 [23:35] <paulrules> Sorry for the spamming before, got it fixed.
#4662 [23:36] <xales> Not a problem...
#4663 [23:36] <xales> sometimes, people do it intentionally though, just making sure you weren't
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#4665 [23:37] <paulrules> Egh, yeah. I still don't know what was wrong, I just installed an earlier version...
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