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#6 [00:15] <JZ> anyone from AllGamer there?
#7 [00:16] <AG_Clinton> What can I do for you?
#8 [00:16] <JZ> hey Clinton, my friend seems to be having trouble with his server one sec
#9 [00:16] <AG_Clinton> Has he submitted a ticket?
#10 [00:17] <JZ> not sure, I'll ask
#11 [00:18] <JZ> guess he didn't...I told him to submit one now
#12 [00:18] <AG_Clinton> Thanks.
#13 [00:19] <JZ> ok now he submitted it
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#18 [00:23] <Tylermeme12345678> Any1 from allgamer on ^^
#19 [00:23] <pachuco> it wont let me use my credit card. it says i have to wait 24hrs before using it. What to do?
#20 [00:24] <JZ> I would assume wait 24 hours?
#21 [00:24] <pachuco> why tho....that doesnt make since
#22 [00:25] <JZ> What are you trying to purchase?
#23 [00:25] <xales> pachuco: If you want to know why, call the number on the back of your card. They can explain it to you. ._.
#24 [00:25] <pachuco> minecraft?
#25 [00:25] <JZ> hmm...I used paypal to buy Minecraft
#26 [00:26] <JZ> I think I ran into the same problem, so did my brother
#27 [00:26] <AG_Scott> Thats likely a paypal restriction.
#28 [00:26] <AG_Scott> You should contact them.
#29 [00:26] <pachuco> it wont give me the option to use paypal. ive searched for paypal but it wont let me choose te option
#30 [00:27] <JZ> no Paypal worked for me Scott
#31 [00:27] <AG_Scott> Ummm, you can't purchase it any other way.
#32 [00:27] <xales> pachuco: http://www.minecraft.net/prepurchase.jsp
#33 [00:27] <AG_Scott> Unless they added more options as of recently
#34 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> They did
#35 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Just recent
#36 [00:27] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: http://www.mojang.com/
#37 [00:27] <xales> AG_Scott: There is a payment gateway...
#38 [00:27] <xales> has been for a while no
#39 [00:27] <AG_Scott> ah
#40 [00:27] <xales> now
#41 [00:28] <pachuco> yeah thats the page i used but still no go. oh well guess ill wait another 24. just thought maybe someone knew why it was like that. thanks
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#75 [01:51] <SinZ> ??< index
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#119 [02:03] <Mecha_Hebikage> hello?
#120 [02:03] <xales> Hi.
#121 [02:03] <Mecha_Hebikage> the skin uploader thinggy is down =(
#122 [02:03] <xales> Yes, try again tomorrow
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#155 [02:04] <Mecha_Hebikage> >.> what causes it to go down if you dont mind me asking?
#156 [02:04] <xales> I don't know
#157 [02:05] <xales> We aren't affiliated with Mojang in any way
#158 [02:05] <Mecha_Hebikage> oh
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#160 [02:06] <Mecha_Hebikage> hmmm. perhapse i should find a way to pester them directly
#161 [02:06] <xales> They know about the issue.
#162 [02:07] <xales> Just be patient and try again tomorrow
#163 [02:08] <Mecha_Hebikage> but im boooored. and i really want to be boba fett right this instant D=
#164 [02:08] <Mecha_Hebikage> ohwell
#165 [02:08] <Mecha_Hebikage> goodnight
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#175 [02:43] <rumpler> hello
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#177 [02:43] <rumpler> I need some help
#178 [02:43] <rumpler> I cant put another skin on my character it keeps saying woah
#179 [02:43] <rumpler> And then nothing help?
#180 [02:44] <rev-lemon> ?
#181 [02:44] <rev-lemon> what you mean saying woah
#182 [02:44] <rev-lemon> ?
#183 [02:44] <rev-lemon> what says something back to you, when you load your skin ?
#184 [02:44] <rev-lemon> or the web site
#185 [02:44] <rumpler> Like i go to a page its says woah there seems to be something wrong. please wait whilst we tinker with it and check back later
#186 [02:45] <rumpler> its been 3days later and still the same thing
#187 [02:45] <rev-lemon> your talking about the upload bit of minecraft.net ?
#188 [02:45] <rev-lemon> wehre you upload your skin
#189 [02:45] <rumpler> Of the skin yes
#190 [02:45] <[L]> :l
#191 [02:45] <rev-lemon> only way is maybe talk to one of the devs and see if they can get it back up and running,
#192 [02:46] <rev-lemon> we cant do stuff here , we dont work for mojang :)
#193 [02:46] <rumpler> help?
#194 [02:46] <rev-lemon> thats the only help we can give since its site related
#195 [02:46] <rumpler> Yeah but surely it must of happend to someone in here
#196 [02:47] <rumpler> So i was wonderin if they could tell me anythin about it
#197 [02:47] <rev-lemon> well jus wait, theres people poping in from time to time , so you might get your answer
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#200 [02:53] <[L]> Probably not premiu,m
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#216 [03:51] <genshou> Interesting.
#217 [03:52] <genshou> So, on flat terrain, placing a powered rail every 26 rail blocks will allow a player-ridden cart to maintain maximum speed indefinitely. But how long does it take to accelerate to maximum speed from a dead stop? :)
#218 [03:52] <genshou> I'm working on getting the timing just right with the unmanned cart on solid powered rails next to me so I can get a more accurate measurement. So far it looks like it takes about 400 metres of straight track.
#219 [03:54] <genshou> in other words, way too far to have one station in loaded chunks while you are standing inside the other, unless it's diagonal, but I'm not testing diagonals yet ;)
#220 [03:54] <genshou> riding 900m across CleanRoom isn't as fun. Maybe next time I'll MCEdit a glass tunnel through a random world seed. :o
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#223 [04:08] <MadeOke> cannot change my skin
#224 [04:08] <genshou> It takes 832m to accelerate to sustainable maximum speed starting from a single powered rail at a dead stop, then repeating one powered rail after 25 intervening standard rails at regular intervals.
#225 [04:08] <genshou> :(
#226 [04:09] <genshou> If you start with 4 powered rails, you attain sustainable maximum speed immediately, of course, but yuck, I don't find that much gold
#227 [04:13] <genshou> Hmm, my second test resulted in sustainable maximum speed 3 rails sooner (78 less blocks)... why must powered rails be so useless and so unpredictable? D:<
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#229 [04:19] <genshou> Average seems to be 806m as of third test. Bleh.
#230 [04:24] <genshou> On my first test, the first time I gained maximum velocity of 8m/s was after 130m (a total of 6 powered rails, including the starting position). The maximum speed didn't last very long, but at least was reached momentarily.
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#232 [04:26] <MadeOke> hello..
#233 [04:26] <knyrf> Hi.
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#235 [04:28] <genshou> it seems background stuff like light level updates during dawn/dusk may affect the total acceleration gained while travelling over a powered rail
#236 [04:28] <mib_ew1uer> apparently the .exe i downloaded has a virus. Malware by the name of Win32/Murofet.A... My antivirus blocks it so I get error "cannot open executable .jar file" or some such.
#237 [04:28] <knyrf> What antivirus software?
#238 [04:29] <mib_ew1uer> Can somebody help me?
#239 [04:29] <mib_ew1uer> Avira
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#241 [04:29] <knyrf> Where did you download it from?
#242 [04:29] <mib_ew1uer> (Thanks!)
#243 [04:29] <mib_ew1uer> Minecraft.exe?
#244 [04:29] <mib_ew1uer> Minecraft.net. I just bought it tonight.
#245 [04:30] <knyrf> Are you on Windows 7/Vista, or XP?
#246 [04:30] <mib_ew1uer> Avira? Umm... Their website, I think. Avast or whatever.
#247 [04:30] <mib_ew1uer> XP
#248 [04:30] <knyrf> Okay
#249 [04:30] <knyrf> Go to Start->Run
#250 [04:30] <knyrf> type "cmd" and click run
#251 [04:30] <knyrf> Then, in that box, type "ping minecraft.net"
#252 [04:30] <mib_ew1uer> done
#253 [04:30] <knyrf> It will reply "Pinging minecraft.net [xx.xx.xx.xx]"
#254 [04:31] <knyrf> Can you give me the [xx.xx.xx.xx] part?
#255 [04:31] <mib_ew1uer> Version 5.1.2600
#256 [04:31] <mib_ew1uer> ?
#257 [04:31] <knyrf> No
#258 [04:32] <knyrf> After you type the "ping minecraft.net"
#259 [04:32] <genshou> Next test... how many spaces between powered rails are necessary for a player-ridden cart pushing along X number of storage carts ;D
#260 [04:32] <mib_ew1uer> could not find host minecraft. Check the name and try again...
#261 [04:33] <knyrf> minecraft.net
#262 [04:33] <knyrf> not minecraft
#263 [04:33] <knyrf> Type exactly "ping minecraft.net" without the quotes
#264 [04:33] <mib_ew1uer> 50.16.203.217
#265 [04:34] <knyrf> I'm guessing it's just a false-positive (it's known to happen...)
#266 [04:34] <knyrf> Tell Avira to add an exception for minecraft.exe
#267 [04:35] <mib_ew1uer> So, i should not allow avira to block it? And give it a red hot aussie go? Thanks for your help. I think you're a very super guy. Bye then.
#268 [04:36] <knyrf> Pretty much :) Good luck!
#269 [04:36] <mib_ew1uer> :)
#270 [04:37] <mib_ew1uer> Awww....
#271 [04:38] <mib_ew1uer> Could not create the Java virtual machine. (+windows sound effect)
#272 [04:40] <mib_ew1uer> After the exception was made, and the file was run, I was given this brand new error message...
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#274 [04:42] <sluggo> I'm sorry my browser just refreshed and I'm not sure what I typed or if anything was replied to. I was given a new error message that says "Could not create Java virtual machine."
#275 [04:42] <sluggo> And I'm a little sad about it.
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#277 [04:45] <sluggo> Hello?
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#279 [04:45] <daniel92> hi
#280 [04:45] <sluggo> Hi! I''m sure having trouble trying to get Minecraft running.
#281 [04:46] <sluggo> Do you think you might be able to help me?
#282 [04:46] <daniel92> i want to buy minecraft via paypal but since yesterday I cant choose paypal as a payment method. The buy screen looks a little bit bugged and if u click on proceed u can only choose moneybookers
#283 [04:47] <sluggo> Oh. Well, I just bought it (through them, moneybookers) and it went down ok. I just can''t run the game I received.
#284 [04:48] <daniel92> But i need paypal and i cant choose it :S
#285 [04:48] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :daniel92: use a different browser.
#286 [04:48] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :sluggo: what's wrong?
#287 [04:48] <daniel92> ok thxm i`ll give it a try :)
#288 [04:48] <Psyborg-> sluggo, do you have java? www.java.com
#289 [04:49] <sluggo> I don't think I can help any more than that... For me? I was given a new error message that says "Could not create Java virtual machine" When I ran Minecraft.exe
#290 [04:50] <sluggo> Well, I''m sure I used to.... It doesn't just delete itself surely.
#291 [04:50] <sluggo> I'll give it a whirl though.
#292 [04:50] <daniel92> internet explorer doesn't work too
#293 [04:51] <daniel92> I think its a bug, yesterday there was an update for the payment methods
#294 [04:51] <Psyborg-> daniel, I know they just implemented more payment options, maybe they are a bit buggy right now
#295 [04:52] <daniel92> yeah i think too, but i want it NOW :D ok i think i have to wait for it till its fixed :S
#296 [04:52] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :sluggo: how much RAM do you have available?
#297 [04:53] <sluggo> Brand new, current issue Java installed, same message.
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#299 [04:53] <genshou> hmm, pushing storage carts is trickier than I thought >.>
#300 [04:53] <sluggo> Am I finding that out in the perfomance tab of my task manager?
#301 [04:53] <Psyborg-> Sluggo what OS?
#302 [04:53] <sluggo> XP
#303 [04:55] <Psyborg-> Ok...hmm...maybe uninstall java and reinstall? I don't know...
#304 [04:55] <sluggo> My available physical memory is 209960K or thereabouts.
#305 [04:55] <sluggo> I just installed the latest one from java.com.
#306 [04:55] <sluggo> As in, 2 minutes ago.
#307 [04:56] <knyrf> O_o
#308 [04:56] <knyrf> ??> sluggo win/dxdiag
#309 [04:56] <VoxelHead> sluggo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#310 [04:56] <VoxelHead> sluggo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#311 [04:56] <sluggo> That''s sorta how I feel.
#312 [04:56] <sluggo> Ok. See you on the other side.
#313 [05:00] <sluggo> http://pastebin.com/Mitvuvkp
#314 [05:00] <knyrf> Okay, one sec
#315 [05:01] <knyrf> err
#316 [05:01] <knyrf> yeah...
#317 [05:01] <knyrf> your computer doesn't really meet the minimum requirements to run Minecraft :|
#318 [05:01] <sluggo> Wow!
#319 [05:01] <sluggo> I'm heartbroken.
#320 [05:01] <knyrf> It..might run, but it wouldn't be easy to get running and it would lag hugely
#321 [05:01] <knyrf> if it ran at all :|
#322 [05:02] <knyrf> sluggo: Do you want to see if it will run?
#323 [05:02] <sluggo> I had an indev version running if i had the draw distance no higher than normal... I just figured this wouldn't be that much more badass.
#324 [05:02] <sluggo> Oh yes, surely yes. I have to, right? How am I gonna sleep otherwise?
#325 [05:03] <knyrf> Okay.
#326 [05:03] <knyrf> First, put the Minecraft.exe on your desktop
#327 [05:03] <knyrf> Then, open Notepad from Accessories
#328 [05:03] <knyrf> In it, type the following:
#329 [05:04] <knyrf> java -Xmx200M -jar Minecraft.exe
#330 [05:04] <knyrf> pause
#331 [05:04] <knyrf> (so, two lines)
#332 [05:04] <knyrf> once you do that, save it, make the name be "minecraft.bat" and the type as "all files" and save it on your desktop
#333 [05:05] <sluggo> Ok, I''m up to date.
#334 [05:05] <sluggo> Now where?
#335 [05:06] <sluggo> Open it I assume?
#336 [05:06] <knyrf> Yeah, double click the .bat
#337 [05:06] <sluggo> Yeah, same error....
#338 [05:06] <sluggo> No virtual machine for me....
#339 [05:07] <knyrf> sluggo: Open the .bat with notepad, change the 200 to 128
#340 [05:08] <sluggo> Okie dokie.
#341 [05:08] <sluggo> Same error. :(
#342 [05:09] <knyrf> Oh.
#343 [05:09] <knyrf> You'r running Service Pack 2
#344 [05:09] <knyrf> that's why
#345 [05:09] <knyrf> Go to Microsoft Update (or Windows Update) in the start menu, and install service pack 3
#346 [05:09] <sluggo> Well that sounds vaguely positive...
#347 [05:10] <sluggo> Ok.
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#350 [05:24] <DylArn> hello
#351 [05:29] <sluggo> Frick bells and pork fat. I can''t run minecraft cos I dont have sp3 and i can''t get that because i dont have iexplore so now i''ve got that and i''m runniong a freak-sanctioned lolly turd 32 bit freakin commodore of an OS that wont handle it.
#352 [05:29] <sluggo> Well, thank you heaps for your help and patience, I''m going to go commit hari-kiri unless someone buys me a new computer tonight.
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#354 [05:33] <DrMuchLove> Can someone help me please?
#355 [05:34] <DrMuchLove> I've just purchased minecraft and downloaded it. I click on it to start it up. It brings up the launcher I click login and the launcher dissapears and nothing happens :(
#356 [05:35] <DrMuchLove> I've just purchased minecraft and downloaded it. I click on it to start it up. It brings up the launcher I click login and the launcher dissapears and nothing happens
#357 [05:35] <DrMuchLove> Can you help me out mate?
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#361 [05:47] <stomper> hi
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#367 [06:11] <genshou> Hmm... accidentally glitching a minecart train into boost-mode when attempting to run tests sans booster glitch isn't helpful. :\
#368 [06:12] * genshou will rest and continue powered rail tests when the dang sun is up xD
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#371 [06:33] <mib_36krsg> Anyone here...?
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#375 [06:42] <Sqozza> derp.
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#377 [06:47] <oOTozaOo> Hey i need some help
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#383 [07:28] <aibe> trying to log in to minecraft and getting a black screen - any ideas what i should do?
#384 [07:30] <aibe> It happens everytime I log in.
#385 [07:31] <Corporal_Dirge> is there an op command to give a colored wool?
#386 [07:32] <aibe> no
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#388 [07:32] <Corporal_Dirge> Damn, how do I change the "damage" value sof wool?
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#391 [07:37] <irakii_kwala> i need hellp
#392 [07:37] <irakii_kwala> after i log in my minecraft crashes?...
#393 [07:38] <Corporal_Dirge> the server? The Client? Linux, Windows?
#394 [07:40] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> guys i have still not get my gife code on my minecraft account i dont have it in my mailbox nether-.-
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#398 [07:48] <Corporal_Dirge> There's a gift code?
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#401 [07:52] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> i dont see gife code on my hotmail or on minecraft side
#402 [07:52] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> -.-
#403 [07:52] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> what is wrong?
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#405 [07:53] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> ??
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#408 [07:58] <sproing> Anyone here?
#409 [07:59] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> no
#410 [08:00] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> dont sems like it is
#411 [08:00] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> -.-
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#413 [08:06] <Identified> yes im Harley and yes ive paid i paid this morning btw does anyone happen to know how to make your minecraft beta less laggy?
#414 [08:06] <Identified> i mean minecraft beta server
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#416 [08:07] <Corporal_Dirge> Identified, Are you running the client and the server on one computer?
#417 [08:07] <Identified> yeah :(
#418 [08:08] <Corporal_Dirge> What I do is run "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui"
#419 [08:08] <Corporal_Dirge> So that it gives more memory.
#420 [08:08] <Identified> ok
#421 [08:08] <Identified> ill try that
#422 [08:08] <Corporal_Dirge> Are you running Linux?
#423 [08:08] <Identified> thanks for your tip :D
#424 [08:09] <Identified> no windows
#425 [08:09] <Identified> xp
#426 [08:09] <Identified> professinal
#427 [08:09] <Corporal_Dirge> I'm sure there's a command for it, probably similar
#428 [08:09] <Identified> yeah its the same command
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#430 [08:14] <Mitleid> Hello, I need the help
#431 [08:16] <_303> with?
#432 [08:18] <Mitleid> At attempt to start MinecraftSP.exe an error: "Could not create the Java virtual machine" is appear. JVM it is established. Yesterday I have successfully updated it from an official site. The error at game start remained the same. What shall I do?
#433 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> MinecraftSP.exe? Did you get this from minecraft.net?
#434 [08:23] <Mitleid> No, but when I download from minecraft.net the same error
#435 [08:23] <Mitleid> OS is Windows XP
#436 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft?
#437 [08:25] <Mitleid> No, I have free version
#438 [08:26] <Mitleid> Offline
#439 [08:26] <GreyVulpine> Then I'm sorry, minecraft isn't free, you need to pay for an account to play it.
#440 [08:27] <Mitleid> But it is possible to play an offline...
#441 [08:30] <Mitleid> OK. I have downloaded the version from minecraft.net. The error at game start the same:"Could not create the Java virtual machine".
#442 [08:34] <Mitleid> Please, see my screenshot http://savepic.net/1190236.jpg
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#444 [08:41] <Corporal_Dirge> if you're playing a "free" version then you're not playing minecraft. Whatever little hacks it uses to get to work are most likely the issue. The error message says it's a JVM issue which is also not Minecraft specific. Tried redownloading java?
#445 [08:42] <Mitleid> OK. I have downloaded the version from minecraft.net. The error at game start the same:"Could not create the Java virtual machine".
#446 [08:43] <Mitleid> Please, see my screenshot http://savepic.net/1190236.jpg
#447 [08:43] <Corporal_Dirge> What version of java are you using?
#448 [08:44] <Mitleid> Yesterday I have successfully updated it from an official site of java.
#449 [08:45] <Corporal_Dirge> Tried running it from command line?
#450 [08:47] <Mitleid> cmd->javaw.exe ?
#451 [08:50] <Mitleid> version of java is 1.6
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#453 [08:54] <Corporal_Dirge> What are you doing to run the jar file?
#454 [08:56] <Mitleid> I start minecraft.exe from minecraft.net and there is this error.
#455 [08:57] <Mitleid> Please, wait. I will depart from the computer.
#456 [08:57] <Corporal_Dirge> I have a different version, but the issue sounds like it's java related.
#457 [08:58] <Corporal_Dirge> If he's trying to run the .exe version, it's most likely windows and not Linux like mine.
#458 [08:59] <Corporal_Dirge> Not to mention, he doesn't sound like a Linux person. lol
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#461 [09:06] <KukkiYuki> Does anyone know when they fix the skin change?
#462 [09:06] <GreyVulpine> We have no ETA on that.
#463 [09:06] <GreyVulpine> They're aware of it.
#464 [09:06] <KukkiYuki> ETA?
#465 [09:07] <NinjaKirby> lol? I arrived just in time
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#468 [09:12] <Mitleid> What shall I do to begin game? "Could not create the JVM..."
#469 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> First, buy the game.
#470 [09:14] <Mitleid> In real life? Can I download from minecraft.net and to pay ecash?
#471 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#473 [09:15] <Mitleid> I would like to do it.
#474 [09:16] <Guest32674> wtf!
#475 [09:16] <Guest32674> Jemand da
#476 [09:17] <Guest32674> someone there? D:
#477 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#478 [09:17] <Guest32674> :(
#479 [09:17] <Guest32674> I need help!
#480 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> With?
#481 [09:18] <Guest32674> Cant upload a Skin""
#482 [09:19] <Guest32674> Why? D:
#483 [09:19] <Guest32674> Woah! Something seems to have gone wrong. We'll have a tinker with it momentarily, please check back again later.
#484 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> Skin upload is currently broken. Mojang is aware of it, and is going to fix it soon™
#485 [09:19] <Mitleid> GreyVulpine, why the game don't start? why java couldn't create?
#486 [09:19] <Guest32674> -_-
#487 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> Mitleid - First thing I'd check, after purchasing an account at minecraft.net, are OS updates for your computer
#488 [09:22] <Mitleid> I have windows xp sp2... what updatings should be for it?
#489 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> Get SP3
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#492 [09:26] <Mitleid> hmm... for one of program the sake at me sp2, but the version of assemblage actually sp3 officially is registered. Understand?
#493 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#494 [09:26] <Corporal_Dirge> java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException lol
#495 [09:29] <Boreeas> try{}catch(ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException){break}
#496 [09:29] <Boreeas> s/break/break;/
#497 [09:29] <Mitleid> I have one program which needs in sp2. Therefore to "my computer" at me it is written sp2. But actually it is established sp3. That there was a visibility sp2 I has changed one value in the register a little.
#498 [09:32] <Mitleid> Now I will replace value in the Windows Registry on sp3 and I will look...
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#501 [09:34] <Rtzoor> i got this error... "Connection Lost Internal Exception java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out"
#502 [09:34] <Rtzoor> any one can help?
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#504 [09:35] <Germanfragger> This is some server error mostly a restart should do it
#505 [09:35] <Corporal_Dirge> Rtzoor, that's usually either lag, or a port not open.
#506 [09:36] <Rtzoor> a restart wont do the trick, should i try to forword the 25565 port and hope for the best?
#507 [09:36] <Corporal_Dirge> Are you running the server locally?
#508 [09:36] <Germanfragger> 25565 is the standart port for smp it should do it but it can be changed by the server
#509 [09:37] <Rtzoor> i am trying to connect to a server, any server really... and i stay logged in for a minute and then this pops up
#510 [09:38] <Germanfragger> Hmm win 7/vista?
#511 [09:38] <Rtzoor> alright fragger ill do that one i find my routers password ><
#512 [09:38] <Rtzoor> 7
#513 [09:38] <Germanfragger> uac on=
#514 [09:38] <Germanfragger> ?
#515 [09:38] <Rtzoor> yup
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#517 [09:39] <Germanfragger> Disable it had same error
#518 [09:39] <kermit> the free version loads nicely then has a black screen what do i do?
#519 [09:40] <Germanfragger> Free version?
#520 [09:40] <Rtzoor> you got the latest java kermit?
#521 [09:40] <kermit> yeah
#522 [09:40] <Rtzoor> and for your proccessors architecture?
#523 [09:40] <Rtzoor> x64?
#524 [09:40] <Rtzoor> or x86?
#525 [09:40] <kermit> no
#526 [09:41] <Rtzoor> i had the same thing until i installed the x64 version of sun-java
#527 [09:41] <kermit> thnx :D
#528 [09:42] <Rtzoor> how the hell did he install it that fast?!
#529 [09:42] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> how do i get my gife code if it not on side or my hotmail?
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#531 [09:42] <Germanfragger> only via mail or what do you mean
#532 [09:42] <Germanfragger> @ Liten
#533 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> LITEN-KAKA-E-LE - Email payment@mojang.com
#534 [09:43] <LITEN-KAKA-E-LE> so i need pm that guy to get my stupid code that i pay for?
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#536 [09:44] <Nils> Hello
#537 [09:44] <Germanfragger> Liten yes if you didn´t enter you Email adress or deleted the mail!
#538 [09:44] <tyteen4a03> hi
#539 [09:45] <Nils> I have some probs, im trying to host via hamachi at my moms but it just says "logging in" but when i do exactly the same things at my dads it works perfectly, except we have bad internet there, thats why i wanna host at moms, can anyone help? :)
#540 [09:45] <Rtzoor> search your inbox first, then the junk mail, then the deleted stuff...
#541 [09:46] <Germanfragger> @Nils ist the standart port open?
#542 [09:47] <Nils> i dont know,but that shouldnt be the problem eh? i mean.... im hosting via hamachi'
#543 [09:47] <Rtzoor> ill be back after this restart of my computer and see if the disabling of UAC solved this, altough i doubt it will work...
#544 [09:47] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :?? win/hamachi
#545 [09:48] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :?? index
#546 [09:48] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#547 [09:48] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :??> Nils fubar/hamachi
#548 [09:48] <VoxelHead> Nils: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#549 [09:48] <VoxelHead> Nils: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#550 [09:50] <Germanfragger> I got a litte problem whit my Save it doesn´t works anymore its still in the save Folder but it isn´t in the Load option of minecraft!
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#552 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> Germanfragger - Were you currently playing that save while your computer experienced a power outage?
#553 [09:53] <Germanfragger> cant tell badly could be since my pc had lots of Blue Deads in this time but i think the save is corruptet!
#554 [09:55] <Germanfragger> think it is a Chunk error put i didn´t finde a way to solve it!
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#556 [09:57] <Germanfragger> hello
#557 [09:57] <Germanfragger> ah im back
#558 [09:57] <Germanfragger> and idea Grey?
#559 [09:57] <Germanfragger> any* sry
#560 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> Try opening the map up in a map editor like MCEdit, resave it, and open it back up in minecraft
#561 [09:58] <xolotl> If it's not showing up in the world list, it's probably the level.dat that's corrupt (other things may be corrupt *too*, but that's what would prevent it from being in the list
#562 [09:58] <xolotl> )
#563 [09:58] <Germanfragger> ok i Try
#564 [09:58] <Germanfragger> @ Xolo what can i do then ? delete it maybe?
#565 [09:59] <xolotl> Germanfragger: The most important things that level.dat contains is: the random seed used for terrain generation, your player location, and your inventory
#566 [09:59] <Nils> ok ty guys
#567 [09:59] <xolotl> Germanfragger: The most problematic is the random seed probably, because any newly-generated terrain won't match up with the previous stuff
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#569 [10:00] <xolotl> Germanfragger: You could try just putting in any other level's "level.dat" file, though, and possibly be able to load the world
#570 [10:00] <xolotl> Germanfragger: But try what GreyVulpine suggested first
#571 [10:00] <Germanfragger> yes
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#573 [10:00] <Germanfragger> installin MCedit now lets see if it works
#574 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> LITEN-KAKA-E-LE - You still there?
#575 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> LITEN-KAKA-E-LE - Here's an update that may apply to your situation.
#576 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/71514374833049601
#577 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> "Everyone who bought a gift code within the last 24 h will get the payments processed this evening when the data from PayPal comes in. Peace."
#578 [10:04] <Germanfragger> @ Grey/xolot does red cubes in MC edit says something like error or?
#579 [10:05] <Germanfragger> i try now (in MC)
#580 [10:05] <Germanfragger> YAY its in the list hope it works!
#581 [10:05] <xolotl> Germanfragger: I think it highlights in red areas that it needs to re-light
#582 [10:05] <Germanfragger> lul but spawned in dirt
#583 [10:05] <Germanfragger> ^^
#584 [10:06] <Germanfragger> need to reset spawn
#585 [10:06] <Nils> will people be able to Access and hack my computer if i set my port forwarding to minecratfs?
#586 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> No.
#587 [10:07] <xolotl> You can do that with MCEdit as well, btw
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#589 [10:09] <aaa> Grey it worked 4 some reason i timed out here and my name ist still in list Thx 4 Help
#590 [10:10] <tyteen4a03> what does F3 do in beta?
#591 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> Shows debug info
#592 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> Coordinates, entity data, fps, etc, etc
#593 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> tyteen4a03 - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Debug_screen
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#595 [10:16] <bayners123> Hello
#596 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#597 [10:17] <bayners123> Could you give me a hand with an error I'm getting?
#598 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the error
#599 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Can you post it on www.pastebin.com?
#600 [10:17] <bayners123> Sure, hang on
#601 [10:18] <bayners123> http://pastebin.com/8ei9Ea2W
#602 [10:19] <bayners123> That's on Ubuntu with the latest Sun Java jre
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#604 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> Have you looked into updating your graphics drivers?
#605 [10:19] <bayners123> I haven't tried that yet
#606 [10:19] <bayners123> Minecraft used to work before, and I'm pretty sure it was on Beta 1.5 as well
#607 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> If the output of "ps aux" shows there's no existing java process that isn't closed properly, then it most likely is a graphics driver problem
#608 [10:22] <bayners123> "Only one LWJGL context may be instantiated at any one time."
#609 [10:22] <bayners123> Does that mean anything to you?
#610 [10:22] * GreyVulpine points to what he just said.
#610 [10:22] <bayners123> Fair enough, I'll see if I can find an update
#611 [10:22] <bayners123> Thanks!
#612 [10:23] <Corporal_Dirge> bayners123, What is the commadn you're using to run it? I'm running 11.04.
#613 [10:23] <bayners123> I launched it with java -Xms1G -jar minecraft.jar
#614 [10:24] <Corporal_Dirge> I use "XMODIFIERS= java -Xmx512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#615 [10:24] <Corporal_Dirge> "
#616 [10:24] <Corporal_Dirge> oops
#617 [10:24] <Corporal_Dirge> There was a carriage return in there.
#618 [10:24] <Corporal_Dirge> XMODIFIERS= java -Xmx512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#619 [10:25] <bayners123> Hmm, java didn't like that
#620 [10:25] <bayners123> "Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#621 [10:25] <Corporal_Dirge> I do that because I have iBus installed.
#622 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Remember, linux is caps-sensitive, "minecraft.jar" is different from "Minecraft.jar"
#623 [10:26] <bayners123> Yep, but my download is Minecraft
#624 [10:26] <bayners123> I get the launcher coming up and can log in
#625 [10:26] <bayners123> the crash happens after I submit my login details
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#627 [10:27] <Corporal_Dirge> that's odd.
#628 [10:28] <bayners123> I'm going to go try and find a graphics update
#629 [10:29] * Nils [Nils@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#630 [10:30] <Nils> hello, im trying to setup a server but when i open the server file nothing happens.
#631 [10:31] <tyteen4a03> classic or beta?
#632 [10:31] <Nils> beta
#633 [10:31] <tyteen4a03> linux or windows?
#634 [10:31] <Nils> windows
#635 [10:32] <tyteen4a03> you don't double-click the minecraft_server.jar
#636 [10:32] <tyteen4a03> sec
#637 [10:32] <Nils> yes i do
#638 [10:32] <tyteen4a03> oh, you downloaded minecraft_server.exe?
#639 [10:32] <Corporal_Dirge> Use "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui"
#640 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> Corporal_Dirge: I think he downloaded the exe version
#641 [10:33] <tyteen4a03> Nils: did you download the exe version of the server?
#642 [10:33] <Nils> hmm, ill check
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#644 [10:34] <freezing> Hey Guys
#645 [10:34] * frogzilla [frogzilla@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#646 [10:34] <freezing> I can't Change my skin
#647 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> freezing - Skin changing is disabled at the moment
#648 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Mojang has been informed, and is working on it
#649 [10:34] <freezing> When will it be back may i ask?
#650 [10:34] <freezing> OIkay
#651 [10:36] <Nils> now when i try to join my minecraft server it just says "logging in"
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#653 [10:36] <Corporal_Dirge> From the same computer?
#654 [10:38] <Nils> hello?
#655 [10:38] <Corporal_Dirge> hello
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#657 [10:39] <Nils> im trying to join from another computer
#658 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> With what IP are you trying to join with?
#659 [10:40] <Corporal_Dirge> Ok, make sure the port for the server is open.
#660 [10:40] <Corporal_Dirge> Default is 25565
#661 [10:40] <Nils> i host via hamachi
#662 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Then are both computers connected on hamachi, on the same network?
#663 [10:41] <Corporal_Dirge> Doesn't mean that the port on the computer is open.
#664 [10:41] <Nils> ive set it to 25565 now
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#666 [10:41] <Corporal_Dirge> Nils, check the windows firewall.
#667 [10:42] <Nils> ive played on another server from that computer'
#668 [10:42] <Nils> do i need to have my firewall open to host?
#669 [10:42] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#670 [10:42] <Corporal_Dirge> yes. It's the port everyone, including yourself, will connect to.
#671 [10:42] <Nils> i can try that
#672 [10:42] <Corporal_Dirge> Only time you don't need to is if the host is also the client
#673 [10:48] <Nils> it still only says logging in
#674 [10:48] <Nils> but a friend of mine is trying from another computer and it works for him
#675 [10:49] <Corporal_Dirge> What are you typing for the location? IP address?
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#677 [10:49] <Nils> my hamachi ip
#678 [10:50] <Corporal_Dirge> the hamachi IP to the server?
#679 [10:51] <Nils> when i press "multiplayer" and type the hamachi ip and press connect it says "logging in
#680 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> You're connecting to a different computer where the server is hosted, correct?
#681 [10:52] <bayners123> Which hamachi ip are you typing: the one for the server or the one for the computer that you're using?
#682 [10:52] <Corporal_Dirge> It should do that for a while if there's lag. And if you can't connect, it'll eventually drop out.
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#684 [10:52] <Nils> im typing the ip for the hamachi ip of the hosting computer
#685 [10:53] <bayners123> Can you ping it ok?
#686 [10:53] <Nils> how do i do that?
#687 [10:53] <bayners123> type "ping 1.2.3.4" into a command prompt
#688 [10:54] <bayners123> where 1.2.3.4 is the hamachi address of your server
#689 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Nils - Are both computers running hamachi?
#690 [10:54] <Rtzoor> hey people i keep getting this error after a minute on any server "Connection Lost Internal exception: java.net.Socket.TimeoutException: Read timed out"
#691 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Both the computer running the server, as well as the computer you're on right now?
#692 [10:54] <Nils> i am hosting from a diffrent computor than i play on
#693 [10:54] <Rtzoor> windows 7, UAC diabled, port 25565 forwarded
#694 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Nils - Are both computers running hamachi?
#695 [10:54] <Nils> yes
#696 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> Are both on the same hamachi network?
#697 [10:55] <Nils> yep
#698 [10:55] <Rtzoor> help me pleaeaeaeaeaeaeseeee
#699 [10:56] <bayners123> Rtzoor: is this after you've logged in to the server successfully?
#700 [10:56] * mib_zvtioj [mib_zvtioj@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#701 [10:56] <mib_zvtioj> ohai
#702 [10:56] <mib_zvtioj> can someone help me here?
#703 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Nils - Do both computers see each other via hamachi? Do you see a green dot next to their IPs?
#704 [10:58] <mib_zvtioj> hello?
#705 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_zvtioj - 'lo
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#707 [10:58] <mib_zvtioj> ohai
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#709 [10:58] <Rtzoor> yes it is, i get the whole welcome to the server massage and just then i keep falling to the sea but i never reach to it and the map does not load
#710 [10:59] <Israfel-Laptop> ok, back, sorry.
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#712 [10:59] <nisse> hello?
#713 [10:59] <Rtzoor> hay?
#714 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#715 [11:00] <Rtzoor> mishehoo po yodea ivrit?
#716 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> Rtzoor - Look into disabling your firewall.
#717 [11:00] <Rtzoor> completly?
#718 [11:00] <Israfel-Laptop> 日本とを話せますか？
#719 [11:00] <Rtzoor> windows and nod32?
#720 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> This is either a connection problem, blocked by a network security software, or your network card.
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#722 [11:03] <Rtzoor> that didn't work either
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#724 [11:03] <Shukie> Is anyone else having trouble changing skins? Whenever i try to change mine i get an error. Is this my fault? or an error gotten by everyone right now?
#725 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> Mojang is aware of that issue, and is working on it
#726 [11:04] <Morrolan> Rtzoor: What network card do you have?
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#728 [11:05] <Rtzoor> good question, wait a sec
#729 [11:05] <Rtzoor> Intel(R) 82578DC Gigabit Network Connection
#730 [11:05] <Alexander> Hey guys, is it me or is the Skin section down ?
#731 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> Mojang is aware of that issue, and is working on it
#732 [11:05] <Rtzoor> oh
#733 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> It's down for everybody currently
#734 [11:06] <Alexander> Because I havent been able to change my skin for 2 days and I am starting to get worried
#735 [11:06] <Alexander> Aight
#736 [11:06] <Alexander> I guess its Notch two cents in the fight against racism
#737 [11:06] <Alexander> Not my way of solving it but..
#738 [11:07] <Rtzoor> so a solution should arrive any time soon from mojang?
#739 [11:07] <Rtzoor> about the server thing?
#740 [11:07] <Rtzoor> "Connection Lost Internal exception: java.net.Socket.TimeoutException: Read timed out"
#741 [11:07] <Shukie> Thanks for Anwsering my question guys. i was worried it was just me and i was doin somethin weong.
#742 [11:07] <Corporal_Dirge> I need to find a good braid maze generator.
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#744 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> Rtzoor - No, your issue has to do with your computer
#745 [11:08] <Rtzoor> darn :P
#746 [11:08] <Corporal_Dirge> Seems like a network issue.
#747 [11:08] <Nils> hello, ive got a problem, im trying to host a server but it just says logging in, i have tried to play from another computer and that works just fine
#748 [11:08] <Corporal_Dirge> Double check that IP you're typing in.
#749 [11:09] <Alexander> "Connection Lost Internal exception: java.net.Socket.TimeoutException: Read timed out" I got that issue all the time
#750 [11:09] <Nils> tried a million timed :D
#751 [11:09] <Rtzoor> should i try to forward my port agian?
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#753 [11:09] <Alexander> It tends to happen when there are a lot of heavy operations going on
#754 [11:09] <Rtzoor> only IE and minecraft
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#756 [11:09] <Alexander> I suspect its simply a lacking of another message to say "HAI, server got overloaded and blew up, BAI"
#757 [11:09] <Corporal_Dirge> Don't try the same things over and over. Double check it to make sure it's the right address.
#758 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Alexander - http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/71505574172434432
#759 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> The skin upload has been fixed but not deployed yet. Waiting for an email to do some magic before throwing it up there. Hang on!
#760 [11:10] <Corporal_Dirge> If you can't connect "locally" then forward the port from the router to the server and connect to the external IP
#761 [11:10] <Alexander> Wow hehe
#762 [11:10] <Nils> heres the situation: ive got 3 computers, i host ,and 2 playing computer. i can join the server from 1 of the 2 omputers i try playing on
#763 [11:10] <Rtzoor> alright ill try that again
#764 [11:11] <Alexander> @ Corporal, if he cant connect locally, I doubt external will do much good. @ Rtzoor, you shouldnt need any port configs for local
#765 [11:11] <bayners123> Corporal_Dirge: I think most routers only do port forwarding for external access..
#766 [11:11] <Corporal_Dirge> Nils, And it's via a VPN?
#767 [11:11] <Nils> i host via hamachi
#768 [11:11] <Alexander> Did you check Windows FireWall?
#769 [11:12] <Corporal_Dirge> bayners123, Yes, but if they use the external IP, it'll bounce back from the DNS.
#770 [11:12] <Nils> the firewall is not active on the hosting computer
#771 [11:12] <bayners123> Corporal_Dirge: Thanks for the tip: a display driver update worked like a charm
#772 [11:12] <Rtzoor> so i am just wasting my time forwarding?
#773 [11:13] <Alexander> Probably yeah
#774 [11:13] <bayners123> Corporal_Dirge: My Netgear resolves it's own external ip to point to itself
#775 [11:13] <Rtzoor> great lol
#776 [11:13] <Alexander> For local access forwarding isnt needed usually
#777 [11:13] <Alexander> Check your on system firewalls
#778 [11:13] <Alexander> Windows FireWall and any antivirus
#779 [11:13] <Corporal_Dirge> bayners123, if it's the same computer I just use "localhost"
#780 [11:13] <bayners123> Corporal_Dirge: though I suppose if you're set up to use an external DNS server then it might work
#781 [11:13] <Alexander> make sure all of them allow Java and your minecraft server
#782 [11:13] <Nils> ok
#783 [11:14] <Rtzoor> allow java? how can i check that?
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#785 [11:14] <Alexander> Let me check
#786 [11:14] <Alexander> You use Windows 7 or ...?
#787 [11:14] <Rtzoor> yeah 7
#788 [11:15] <Alexander> RUn the .exe as administrator to start with
#789 [11:15] <bayners123> Corporal_Dirge: yeah, but I mean if you're on the same LAN as your server: for me, accessing my external ip from within the network has the same affect as accessing the router directly, ie not the same as accessing the router's external ip from another network
#790 [11:15] <Rtzoor> and btw i put an exception in the anti virus firewall and the windows firewall
#791 [11:15] <Alexander> Try to just turn all firewalls off completely, see if it works like that
#792 [11:15] <Alexander> If it does
#793 [11:16] <Alexander> Its your firewall and you need to fix it
#794 [11:16] <senior_hombre> hi can anybody help me? I bought a gift code yesterday (paid with paypal) but did not got any confirmation mail from minecraft (but i got one from paypal) nor i get the code in the profile. How long does one usaly have to wait for the code?
#795 [11:16] <Alexander> if it doesnt, you can just turn it back on
#796 [11:16] <Alexander> Thats odd
#797 [11:16] <Alexander> Did you check your spam box?
#798 [11:16] <Alexander> Or the paypal description thingy?
#799 [11:16] <bayners123> senior_hombre: I think Mojang are having problems with gift codes at the moment
#800 [11:17] <senior_hombre> yes no spam mail from minecraft
#801 [11:17] <Alexander> Dear god, 20 million dollars and... XD
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#803 [11:17] <bayners123> Twitter -> mollstam "Everyone who bought a gift code within the last 24 h will get the payments processed this evening when the data from PayPal comes in. Peace."
#804 [11:18] <Alexander> Thats funny because if they are using paypal's API they should have had the data immediately :P
#805 [11:18] <Rtzoor> well tnx guys i am sure ill work it out some time
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#807 [11:18] <DUD_E> Hey guys got a huge problem... when i start the minecraft.exe and try to login the whole game freez... can anyone help me?
#808 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> Alexander - They're also working on their payment portal, adding new options.
#809 [11:19] <bayners123> Did you get the paypal confirmation? Because that should have come through anyway
#810 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> I'm not surprised if they took down the current stuff to get the rest working
#811 [11:19] <nisse> crap
#812 [11:19] <senior_hombre> but it is strange because me and one of my frieds bought the full version directly (using paypal but did noit bought a gift code) and this work instantly no waiting time
#813 [11:19] <nisse> nothing works....:(
#814 [11:19] <Alexander> It is odd that they have such downtimes on their size
#815 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> It's because Mojang was adding new payment options
#816 [11:19] <senior_hombre> yes the paypal confirmation was there just a few minutes after the payment
#817 [11:20] <Alexander> I mean, they could have ran it on a test server
#818 [11:20] <Alexander> And made it a seamless switch
#819 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> Size? They have less than a dozen staff
#820 [11:20] <Alexander> They had like 20 million profits
#821 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> And still, less than a dozen staff
#822 [11:20] <Alexander> So?
#823 [11:20] <Alexander> Thats not an excuse, they got all resources in the world to get things working right :P
#824 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> What's 20 million if there's not that many people?
#825 [11:20] <bayners123> Minecraft is a big thing, but Mojang still a small company
#826 [11:21] <DUD_E> Hey guys got a huge problem... when i start the minecraft.exe and try to login the whole game freez... can anyone help me? ^^
#827 [11:21] <Corporal_Dirge> DUD_E, Is there an error message?
#828 [11:21] <bayners123> DUD_E: Do you get any error messages?
#829 [11:21] <DUD_E> nope
#830 [11:21] <DUD_E> just freez
#831 [11:22] <DUD_E> all other programms work normaly
#832 [11:22] <Corporal_Dirge> DUD_E, What's your OS, the file (exe, or jar), the command you're using, etc.
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#834 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> Could you be specific? Does it stop working? Does it display anything? Do you get a black screen? Does it freeze with a certain image?
#835 [11:22] <Alexander> @DUD_E, did it ever work for you in the past?
#836 [11:22] <DUD_E> MS XP, .exe, double click xD
#837 [11:23] <Alexander> DUD_E, is it new for you or did it work in the past?
#838 [11:23] <DUD_E> @Alexander yes 30min ago
#839 [11:23] <Alexander> Did anything change in those 30 minutes?
#840 [11:23] <nisse> does anyone know what to do if you are in the same hamachi network, the server is up and running and the firewalls are off and it just says logging in and then "took too long" when i connect to the server
#841 [11:24] <Alexander> Did you try closing a few programs or rebooting? Perhaps its to ram heavy for you
#842 [11:24] <Wug> ?? fubar/hamachi
#843 [11:24] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#844 [11:24] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#845 [11:24] <nisse> VPN?
#846 [11:24] <DUD_E> @GreyVulpine ... the login screen pop up ... i press the login boutton and than freez .. the whole minecraft window is black ...
#847 [11:24] * Wug gestures to google
#847 [11:24] <Alexander> Voxelhead as in from the Voxxel plugins?
#848 [11:25] <Corporal_Dirge> nisse, hamachi is a type is VPN for dummies. (Virtual Private Network)
#849 [11:25] * Wug gestures to google again
#849 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> DUD_E - Have you looked into updating your video drivers, as well as java?
#850 [11:25] <nisse> k
#851 [11:25] <DUD_E> @Alexander i use only 20% of my ram atm
#852 [11:25] <nisse> java is up to date
#853 [11:25] <Corporal_Dirge> nisse, you shouldn't even need a VPN. With a server running and ports properly forwarded.
#854 [11:25] <Alexander> Could you run a DXDiag?
#855 [11:25] <Alexander> Virtual Private Network
#856 [11:25] <DUD_E> @GreyVulpine i reinstalled them :D
#857 [11:25] <Alexander> Basically, if you use Hamachi, you are screwing over the internet
#858 [11:26] <Alexander> Thus this chat doesnt support Hamachi
#859 [11:26] <Alexander> I think thats what he means :P
#860 [11:26] <DUD_E> i don't use hamachi :D lol
#861 [11:26] <Alexander> If it doesnt work
#862 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> DUD_E - Reinstalled.. what?
#863 [11:27] <Alexander> Could you run : dxdiag.exe ?
#864 [11:27] <Alexander> @GreyVulpine, some older drivers do that
#865 [11:27] <DUD_E> @GreyVulpine ... my video drivers
#866 [11:27] <Alexander> Kind of stupid system but it does work..
#867 [11:27] <nisse> will people be able to hack my computer i i forward the ports?
#868 [11:27] <Corporal_Dirge> DUD_E, Try downloading the .jar version and running it using java.
#869 [11:27] <Alexander> No...
#870 [11:28] <Alexander> @Nisse, to be honest, hacking is severely overrated and barely ever happens to people with half a brain :P
#871 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> DUD_E - I'd look into reinstalling java.
#872 [11:28] <DUD_E> @Alexander what is dxdiag.exe?
#873 [11:28] <Alexander> Use the Run tool thing in start
#874 [11:28] <Alexander> and type in dxdiag.exe
#875 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#876 [11:28] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#877 [11:28] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#878 [11:28] <Alexander> Are you a bot...?
#879 [11:28] <DUD_E> @GreyVulpine ... maybe it will work ...
#880 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead is a bot
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#882 [11:28] <Wug> yes, vox is a bot
#883 [11:28] <Wug> lol
#884 [11:29] <Alexander> That explains.
#885 [11:29] <Wug> ?? bot
#886 [11:29] <Wug> well
#887 [11:29] <mr_trousers> i need help D:
#888 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> ??+ bot|Yes, I'm a bot.
#889 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> ?? bot
#890 [11:29] <VoxelHead> bot: Yes, I'm a bot.
#891 [11:29] <Alexander> lol.
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#893 [11:29] <Alexander> Greyvulpine is stealing the bot :O
#894 [11:29] <Wug> grey, can I have command setting privs?
#895 [11:29] <Alexander> Kill him.
#896 [11:30] <Wug> I think of good ones like every day and forget about them
#897 [11:30] <mr_trousers> my minecraft wont work D:
#898 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Wug - PM them to an OP.
#899 [11:30] <Wug> cuz nobodys around to set them
#900 [11:30] <Corporal_Dirge> I, for one, welcome our new bot overlords.
#901 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Wug - I think every op here, has access to vox.
#902 [11:30] <Alexander> SkyNet Tech Support, how can we assist you?
#903 [11:30] <Alexander> Like that?
#904 [11:30] <Wug> vox is dope's, right?
#905 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#906 [11:31] <Wug> i'll ask him for access
#907 [11:31] <Wug> i do pm, it doesnt always work
#908 [11:31] <Corporal_Dirge> Alexander, Microsoft bought Skype... I think they'll call it Microsoft Skype Network.... Or MS Skynet for short.
#909 [11:31] <Alexander> Lmao
#910 [11:31] <Alexander> Ah well, when its bought by MS we dont need to fear it
#911 [11:32] <Alexander> All it'l do is give BSOD's and lag a lot
#912 [11:32] <Alexander> :D
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#914 [11:32] <Wug> <mr_trousers> my minecraft wont work D:
#915 [11:32] <Wug> as much as I'd love spending 2 hours troubleshooting that most vague of issues
#916 [11:32] <Corporal_Dirge> Sun has been up a few hours now. Time for sleep.
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#919 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> Heh, g'nite
#920 [11:33] <Alexander> @Wug, if you aren't up for that, don't start a server XD
#921 [11:33] <Alexander> You wouldn't belief how much time I spend doing stupid things for dumb people
#922 [11:33] <Wug> I run 2 servers
#923 [11:33] <Alexander> Sucks, dont it ?
#924 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> I've been here for months.
#925 [11:34] <Wug> and server rules indicate that begging for items, tps, or time sets is a kickable offense
#926 [11:34] <Wug> and I do kcik
#927 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> Didn't ask for op, was forced on me.
#928 [11:34] <Wug> boy do I
#929 [11:35] <Alexander> Oh, well, one of the things we pride on is having one of the best staff (on advertisements)
#930 [11:35] <Alexander> Basically we gathered a team of very patient people and we pretend to love every single member
#931 [11:35] <Alexander> While on skype we actually mock them and make fun of them in secret
#932 [11:35] <Alexander> Owns D
#933 [11:36] <Wug> ^
#934 [11:36] <Alexander> @GreyVulpine, your lucky. I was forced into paying 60 a month for a server and spending night after night working instead of playing.
#935 [11:36] <Wug> I'm the admin of...
#936 [11:36] <Wug> .....
#937 [11:36] <Wug> the unofficial facebook page's server
#938 [11:37] <Alexander> o.0
#939 [11:37] <Wug> so we get the denizens of facebook
#940 [11:37] <Wug> who are not known for intelligence
#941 [11:37] <Alexander> I need a facebook dev account
#942 [11:37] <Alexander> haha
#943 [11:37] <Alexander> We find members from Reddit
#944 [11:37] <Alexander> Good people
#945 [11:37] <Wug> they're easy to get, you just sign up
#946 [11:37] <Wug> anyway, facebook people being none too smart and all
#947 [11:37] <Alexander> Hehe
#948 [11:38] <Alexander> Im about to affliate 2 servers and pay for advertisements on a few lists etc
#949 [11:38] <Alexander> We're pretty new and I want us to hit the 50 mark already :D
#950 [11:38] <Wug> most will see fit to beg me for literally hours for a tp (literally HOURS, I've kept track) over like 2000 blocks that, because I use vanilla, I can't even give them
#951 [11:38] <Alexander> Oh I use Bukkit
#952 [11:39] <Alexander> Right now we TP anyone but I am going to take away most admin powers soon
#953 [11:39] <Alexander> I am starting to feel admins should have no powers but kick, ban, war and mod check
#954 [11:39] <Wug> its not quite vanilla anymore, I've got a few power-op mods I wrote myself, but for all intents and purposes, its vanilla
#955 [11:39] <Wug> it looks exactly like vanilla unless you have elevated privilages
#956 [11:39] <Alexander> Heh, we're making a bukkit plugin :D
#957 [11:39] <Alexander> For a new game mode
#958 [11:39] <Alexander> anyway
#959 [11:39] <Alexander> I gotta run and eat
#960 [11:40] <Alexander> Ciao
#961 [11:40] <Wug> and that's what I did, the lowest tier of ops has no game-breaking pwoers
#962 [11:40] <Alexander> Thing is right now we are very active in helping things build
#963 [11:40] <Alexander> Supporting new cities
#964 [11:40] <Alexander> Adjusting the terrain to needs
#965 [11:40] <Wug> just kick and ban, with condition that bans must have a reason
#966 [11:40] <Alexander> We use a warning systems, 3 strikes your out
#967 [11:40] <Alexander> But sometimes that happens quick
#968 [11:41] <Alexander> EG a guy used flyhack then begged me to be able to stay in the restricted area and then called me a gay boy for refusing
#969 [11:41] <Alexander> 3 strikes, permanent ban :D
#970 [11:41] <Wug> lol
#971 [11:41] <Alexander> After that we put in a perma ban rule on hacking
#972 [11:41] <Wug> that guy who begged me for 2 hours for a tp
#973 [11:42] <Wug> I eventually got totally fed up
#974 [11:42] <Alexander> We figured most hackers just come to hack, if they really want to play, they'l bloody appeal. If they dont, they're not worth keeping
#975 [11:42] <Wug> and shouted at him through kick messages for like 5 kicks
#976 [11:42] <Alexander> Lmao
#977 [11:42] <Wug> he shut the hell up after that
#978 [11:42] <Alexander> I randomly kick moderators with reasons like
#979 [11:43] <Wug> "is this thing on"
#980 [11:43] <Wug> lol I do too
#981 [11:43] <Alexander> "Where were you last night?! I Was so lonely"
#982 [11:43] <Wug> its mutual
#983 [11:43] <Alexander> :D
#984 [11:43] <Alexander> We also once had 2 total turds
#985 [11:43] <Alexander> Choose Creative instead of survival
#986 [11:43] <Alexander> then started playerkilling by placing sand blocks over them
#987 [11:44] <Alexander> They were like "rules dont say anything about that"
#988 [11:44] <Wug> our first rule is "don't be a dick"
#989 [11:44] <Alexander> Then accused me of admin abuse and griefing when I removed the blocks XD
#990 [11:44] <Wug> lol
#991 [11:44] <Alexander> Our top 3 are : Be Mature Use Common Sense Don't Hack
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#993 [11:45] <Wug> we have autokick for flyhacks
#994 [11:45] <Alexander> We don't, mostly because I fly all the time
#995 [11:45] <Alexander> Makes for quick travel and easy building
#996 [11:45] <Alexander> We block normal members using a simple script tough
#997 [11:45] <Wug> you can tell if someone gets kicked because they'll send like 5 quit messages
#998 [11:45] <Alexander> Ever used EasyFlight? From Bukkit?
#999 [11:45] <Alexander> Its a joy to fly with it, I tell you
#1000 [11:46] <Wug> if someone gets kicked for flying, I ban them for a while
#1001 [11:46] <Wug> I don't particularly like bukkit
#1002 [11:46] <Alexander> Why not?
#1003 [11:46] <Wug> I've tried to use it and was never met with any success
#1004 [11:46] <Alexander> It's basically what I think Notch should have made to start with :P
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#1006 [11:46] <Alexander> Well, thing about Bukkit is you can do whatever what you want with your server nice and easy
#1007 [11:47] <Alexander> Using just bukkit, we got our server to autorestart whenever its slow or crashy and we got some awesome plugins
#1008 [11:47] <Wug> when I was using windows for serving, before I gave up and switched to linux
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#1010 [11:47] <Alexander> Ahhh!
#1011 [11:47] <Alexander> Always use Linux yeah
#1012 [11:47] <Wug> I have now for months
#1013 [11:47] <Alexander> Windows is awesome for PC's but for servers its crap
#1014 [11:47] <Wug> but before that
#1015 [11:47] <Alexander> Linux is SO much more stable XD
#1016 [11:47] <Wug> I was trying to find server software that worked properly
#1017 [11:47] <Wug> none of them did,
#1018 [11:47] <Wug> but vanilla performed best
#1019 [11:47] <Alexander> Well, you must have done something wrong
#1020 [11:48] <Wug> bukkit was unplayable
#1021 [11:48] <Alexander> Bukkit worked straight for me :\
#1022 [11:48] <Alexander> I am running it on a 4GB Dedicated ram VPS, 4GHZ Intel Xeon CPU
#1023 [11:48] <Alexander> Going to upgrade to an 8GB Dedicated Server with a 3GHZ Octocore
#1024 [11:49] <Wug> I'm running it on my desktop, 6GB and a 3.2ghz iz
#1025 [11:49] <Wug> i7*
#1026 [11:49] <Alexander> Nice, I got a 32 bit PC
#1027 [11:49] <Wug> my bottleneck is network speed
#1028 [11:49] <Alexander> 4gb, i7 3.06ghz quad core (w/ht)
#1029 [11:49] <Alexander> HD5760 Graphics I think
#1030 [11:49] <Wug> but I can still play on the computer connected to the local server with ~35 people online
#1031 [11:49] <Alexander> Nice
#1032 [11:50] <Alexander> Yeah, I got 20kbps upload
#1033 [11:50] <Wug> you have a laptop?
#1034 [11:50] <Alexander> So I aint going to try that
#1035 [11:50] <Alexander> lmao
#1036 [11:50] <Alexander> No, normal computer
#1037 [11:50] <Alexander> Radeon Graphics just own
#1038 [11:50] <Wug> hd5760 graphics?
#1039 [11:50] <Wug> ooh radeon
#1040 [11:50] <Wug> derp
#1041 [11:50] <Alexander> Radeon HD5670 I think
#1042 [11:50] <Alexander> ort 60
#1043 [11:50] <Alexander> or 50
#1044 [11:50] <Alexander> XD
#1045 [11:50] <Wug> usually intel calls them HDxyz
#1046 [11:50] <Wug> I was like FFUUUU you have one of those
#1047 [11:51] <Alexander> http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-5000/ati-radeon-hd-5670-overview/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-5670-overview.aspx
#1048 [11:51] <Alexander> XD
#1049 [11:51] <Alexander> Imma go and eat now
#1050 [11:51] <Alexander> ciao
#1051 [11:51] <AG_Scott> I could be wrong but I don't think there is a 4.0Ghz Xeon CPU.
#1052 [11:51] <Wug> lolkbye
#1053 [11:51] <Wug> its probably overclocked
#1054 [11:52] <Alexander> @AG_Scott, probably
#1055 [11:52] <Wug> mine is :P
#1056 [11:52] <AG_Scott> and if you're overclocking, jump off a bridge.
#1057 [11:52] <Alexander> I am not doing a thing
#1058 [11:52] <Wug> no
#1059 [11:52] <Alexander> I use a VPS atm
#1060 [11:52] <Alexander> And overclocking IS suicide
#1061 [11:52] <Alexander> I admit
#1062 [11:52] <Alexander> But I gotta runnn
#1063 [11:52] <Wug> I like gatting more performance for == money
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#1065 [11:52] <AG_Scott> Wug, you don't overclock servers.
#1066 [11:52] <Wug> why not? single thread performance is pretty much the only server bottleneck
#1067 [11:53] <Wug> just make sure it doesnt blow up
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#1070 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Power of entry?
#1071 [11:55] <mr_wibble> sorry ment potency
#1072 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> That still doesn't make sense
#1073 [11:56] <mr_wibble> if you make shop to multiplayer server and add blocks id
#1074 [11:57] <mr_wibble> some of them need potency
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#1077 [11:57] <Kealper> aubot...y u no join #CHANNEL
#1078 [11:58] <Kealper> !load mod_chan
#1079 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> Your translator isn't making any sense mr_wibble.
#1080 [11:58] <Kealper> there we go...disregard me again
#1081 [11:59] <mr_wibble> y² for example
#1082 [11:59] <mr_wibble> how i add the number 2?
#1083 [12:00] <Kealper> is mr_wibble drunk or high or something right now?
#1084 [12:00] <mr_wibble> no
#1085 [12:00] <Kealper> or on an acid trip?
#1086 [12:00] <mr_wibble> no....
#1087 [12:00] <Morrolan> Kealper: Most likely he means the item count for kits and stuff.
#1088 [12:00] <Kealper> granted, i've only been here a few minutes, i have no idea what's going on
#1089 [12:00] <bayners123> I think you mean exponents
#1090 [12:00] <mr_wibble> yea
#1091 [12:00] <Morrolan> OR the "value" of items in an economy plugin.
#1092 [12:01] <Kealper> Morrolan: oh...lol
#1093 [12:01] <Morrolan> Oh, exponents? Like, 2^10=1024?
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#1095 [12:01] <mr_wibble> i try that
#1096 [12:01] <Morrolan> Ugh, no, wait.
#1097 [12:01] <Morrolan> Are you sure that you mean exponents? These numbers you know from maths most likely?
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#1099 [12:02] <mr_wibble> yea but they are on blocks id too
#1100 [12:02] <Morrolan> Could you give us an example?
#1101 [12:03] <Kealper> i think....i might know what he's talkingabout
#1102 [12:03] <mr_wibble> cobbelstone
#1103 [12:03] <Kealper> talking about*
#1104 [12:03] <Kealper> mr_wibble: does it range betwen 2 and 64?
#1105 [12:03] <Morrolan> Damage values?
#1106 [12:03] <mr_wibble> yea
#1107 [12:03] <bayners123> metadata
#1108 [12:03] <Kealper> oh, guess i didn't know what he was talking about lol
#1109 [12:03] <mr_wibble> 43 exponent 3
#1110 [12:04] <mr_wibble> look cobbelstones id/damagevalue minecraft wiki
#1111 [12:04] <bayners123> Yeah, some blocks are represented by the same IDs but with different damage
#1112 [12:04] <Morrolan> Ooooh.
#1113 [12:05] <Morrolan> Well, this really depends on the plugin you're using.
#1114 [12:05] <Kealper> those are like sub-IDs, blocks have their main ID like 43, but they can also have 16 "types" of that block...
#1115 [12:05] <mr_wibble> ok and
#1116 [12:06] <Kealper> those 16 sub-IDs can be used for stuff like block damage, different blocks that are similar (like different colors of wool or different tree trunks)
#1117 [12:06] <bayners123> If you're using bukkit, I think you can /give yourself them by doing /give cloth:1 for example
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#1119 [12:06] <bayners123> or that may have been one of my plugins
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#1122 [12:10] <Sylint> Whenever i play Minecraft, in the first minute my whole screen goes black and i need to turn my computer off. Does anybody know why?
#1123 [12:11] <bayners123> Sounds a bit like a video card problem
#1124 [12:11] <Kealper> Sylint: has it ever worked before?
#1125 [12:11] <bayners123> What OS do you use?
#1126 [12:12] <Sylint> I dont know much about computers
#1127 [12:12] <Kealper> ok then, do what VoxelHead is about to tell you
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#1129 [12:12] <Kealper> ?? win/dxdiag
#1130 [12:12] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1131 [12:12] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1132 [12:12] <Sylint> I just downloaded it an hour ago and it keeps happening
#1133 [12:13] <bayners123> Kealper, can anyone use the bot commands?
#1134 [12:13] <Kealper> bayners123: usually, yes
#1135 [12:13] <bayners123> Is there a list of them somewhere?
#1136 [12:13] <Kealper> bayners123: if you want a list of what VoxelHead has in it's FAQ list, type ??< index
#1137 [12:13] <bayners123> ??< index
#1138 [12:13] <bayners123> Cheers
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#1140 [12:14] <mib_d4gx4o> hi
#1141 [12:14] <xales> Hi.
#1142 [12:14] <mib_d4gx4o> i need some help ?
#1143 [12:14] <Kealper> i'm Ron Burgundy?
#1144 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1145 [12:14] <mib_d4gx4o> with registering
#1146 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> For?
#1147 [12:14] <bayners123> lol
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#1149 [12:15] <mib_d4gx4o> whenever i fill in the relevant info and click register the page just refreshes ?
#1150 [12:16] <mib_d4gx4o> ?
#1151 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> At minecraft.net?
#1152 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried a different browser?
#1153 [12:16] <mib_d4gx4o> yeah ? :(
#1154 [12:17] <xales> Are you entering the captcha properly?
#1155 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Is it giving you any red text at the top of the page?
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#1157 [12:18] <mib_d4gx4o> yea i've tried loads of times but it just keeps refreshing and @ greyvulpine, no
#1158 [12:18] <xales> What browser are you using?
#1159 [12:18] <mib_d4gx4o> im not sure how do i find out
#1160 [12:19] <xales> What program do you use to access the Internet?
#1161 [12:19] * pheleas_frog [pheleas_frog@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1162 [12:19] <xales> "Internet Explorer"?
#1163 [12:19] <mib_d4gx4o> mozzilla firefox
#1164 [12:19] <xales> Press Help -> About Firefox
#1165 [12:19] <xales> Does it say Version 4?
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#1167 [12:20] <mib_d4gx4o> version 3.5.7
#1168 [12:20] <Kealper> oh man i just accientally right clicked into irssi
#1169 [12:20] <pheleas_frog> hey guys i have a problem with my minecraft can anyone help?
#1170 [12:20] * Kealper is so glad he only had one line of code in his clipboard
#1170 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> pheleas_frog; yes?
#1171 [12:20] <xales> You need to download Firefox 4, mib_d4gx4o. http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/fx/
#1172 [12:21] <mib_d4gx4o> no , 3.5.7
#1173 [12:21] <xales> Yes. You have 3.5.7 which is old.
#1174 [12:21] <mib_d4gx4o> k thnx
#1175 [12:21] <xales> You need Firefox version 4.
#1176 [12:21] <xales> You must download it from the link I gave you.
#1177 [12:21] <mib_d4gx4o> then will it work
#1178 [12:21] <xales> Yes.
#1179 [12:21] <mib_d4gx4o> thnx man
#1180 [12:21] <pheleas_frog> i have just installed lbbs 256 bit texture pack then my mincraft crashed
#1181 [12:21] <mib_d4gx4o> :D
#1182 [12:21] <Kealper> pheleas_frog: you need a mod to use big texture packs
#1183 [12:22] <Kealper> pheleas_frog: go in to %appdata%\.minecraft and then delete the texturepacks folder
#1184 [12:22] <pheleas_frog> k ill try thnx
#1185 [12:23] <mib_d4gx4o> btw im from ireland and is minecraft good ?
#1186 [12:23] <pheleas_frog> amazing
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#1188 [12:23] <mib_d4gx4o> addictive ?
#1189 [12:23] <bayners123> Far too much
#1190 [12:24] <Kealper> depends on your personality type
#1191 [12:24] <mib_d4gx4o> yayuh xD
#1192 [12:26] <Kealper> ugh....i can't easily have drag and drop on my music player
#1193 [12:26] <xales> >:D
#1194 [12:26] <Kealper> i have to have the file dragged to a GUI control for it to register and give me the path
#1195 [12:26] <xales> I have mpd set to scan my entire home folder
#1196 [12:27] <xales> \o/
#1197 [12:27] <Kealper> but if i have my entire GUI have a static control behind it....the control consumes the WM_MOUSEMOVE message so then i can't tell what's going on >.>
#1198 [12:28] <pheleas_frog> OMG THNX SO MUCH KEALPER IT WORKS NOW YOUR THE BEST
#1199 [12:28] <Kealper> :P
#1200 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/71604505837445120
#1201 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> "If you can't upload your skin it means you haven't said anything nice to me lately."
#1202 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> We love you mollstam!
#1203 [12:34] <Kealper> XD
#1204 [12:34] <Kealper> mollstam: <3
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#1206 [12:44] <Kealper> XD
#1207 [12:45] <Kealper> from a function in the AutoIt help file:
#1208 [12:45] <Kealper> Failure: Sets @error to 0xDEAD and @extended to 0xBEEF if the function does not exist or invalid number of parameters.
#1209 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#1210 [12:45] <xales> Kealper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_%28programming%29#Magic_debug_values
#1211 [12:46] <tyteen4a03> deadbeef
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#1213 [12:46] <Kealper> xales: yeah but @error being either 1 or 2 depending on what was wrong would have cut it lol
#1214 [12:47] <mib_orb8me> My 1.5 not works, because it said that user not premium
#1215 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> You need to buy minecraft to play it
#1216 [12:47] <mib_orb8me> but i have the beta
#1217 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Beta is not free
#1218 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> what is your username?
#1219 [12:47] <mib_orb8me> oh thanks
#1220 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> in the meantime try creative :P
#1221 [12:48] <mib_orb8me> ok
#1222 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> Meh, not as bad as this morning, had somebody complain their minecraftSP.exe wasn't working.
#1223 [12:48] <Kealper> ._.
#1224 [12:51] <Kealper> i like this music player i'm making...it's actually letting me learn about making my own GUIs (instead of just using win32 ones)
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#1226 [12:52] <Kealper> or rather, i should say custom controls, not GUI....as the GUI is still the same, it's just blank and i'm drawing the controls on to it
#1227 [12:52] <Kealper> anywho, i'm gone for about an hour
#1228 [12:56] * GreyVulpine waves
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#1230 [12:59] <mib_dkfi8y> hello? :]
#1231 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1232 [12:59] <xales> Hi
#1233 [13:00] <mib_dkfi8y> i need help with my Minecraft, I'm assuming this is the right place? ;D
#1234 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1235 [13:00] <mib_dkfi8y> ace
#1236 [13:01] <mib_dkfi8y> I've just got a new laptop which has windows xp on it. Minecraft used to work on my old laptop but it doesn't on this. When I open it instead of the news screen i get a grey screen with the text '<html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: create</center></font></b
#1237 [13:01] <mib_dkfi8y> And when I try to log on, its unsuccesful
#1238 [13:01] <xolotl> mib_dkfi8y: Have an agressive firewall on there?
#1239 [13:01] <mib_dkfi8y> Thats what I was thinking
#1240 [13:02] <mib_dkfi8y> my friend put Comodo on it for me
#1241 [13:02] <mib_dkfi8y> I'll ask them about it
#1242 [13:03] <xales> Yeah...Comodo..
#1243 [13:03] <xales> is _very_ aggressive
#1244 [13:04] <xales> that's your problem right there
#1245 [13:04] <mib_dkfi8y> Yeah, just sorted it :D
#1246 [13:04] <mib_dkfi8y> Thought Comodo would be to blame, just wanted to check
#1247 [13:04] <mib_dkfi8y> Thanks guys!
#1248 [13:04] <xales> No problem
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#1251 [13:09] <mib_aqn6d2> were can i download the full up todate game for free ?
#1252 [13:09] <xales> The game is not free. You have to buy it to play it
#1253 [13:10] <mib_aqn6d2> but isn,t there some sites that you can get it forr free
#1254 [13:10] <xales> No.
#1255 [13:10] <xales> That is illegal.
#1256 [13:10] <mib_aqn6d2> but still ? do u know any sites
#1257 [13:11] <xales> No.
#1258 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> xales: he meant MC-give-away
#1259 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> :P
#1260 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> mib_aqn6d2: you can still play classic
#1261 [13:15] <xales> "Full up to date game"
#1262 [13:15] <xales> I don't think they mean Classic :P
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#1264 [13:16] <tyteen4a03> it is full, it is up to date :P
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#1266 [13:17] <_303> there is the free pcgamer demo
#1267 [13:17] <_303> but it's not uptodate
#1268 [13:17] <mib_aqn6d2> what does classic mean
#1269 [13:18] <Morrolan> ?? classic
#1270 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, we don't have that entry
#1271 [13:18] <Morrolan> Hmm, could have sworng there was one.
#1272 [13:18] <Morrolan> sworn*
#1273 [13:18] <Morrolan> Anyway
#1274 [13:18] <Morrolan> mib_aqn6d2, Classic is the old version of Minecraft, with infinite blocks and stuff.
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#1276 [13:18] <Morrolan> It does not have mobs and other things though.
#1277 [13:19] <Morrolan> mib_aqn6d2, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Classic
#1278 [13:20] <mib_aqn6d2> ic classic still good and can i download it
#1279 [13:20] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Does any of the bots have a command to search in the Minecraftwiki?
#1280 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, nope
#1281 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> classic cannot be downloaded
#1282 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> but you can try WoM client
#1283 [13:20] <Morrolan> mib_aqn6d2, I don't really like it, too boring for me. But it's nice to get a first impression of hwo Minecraft is.
#1284 [13:20] <Morrolan> how*
#1285 [13:20] <mib_aqn6d2> whats the diff with it and the full
#1286 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> I stick to classic because I dont really like surviving :P
#1287 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> mib_aqn6d2: no survival, no new blocks
#1288 [13:21] <Morrolan> crafting, inventory, mubs
#1289 [13:21] <Morrolan> mobs*
#1290 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> classic dont have them
#1291 [13:21] <mib_ux3k4p> help me! it wont let me play minecraft and i even payed for it
#1292 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> username please?
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#1294 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> mib_ux3k4p: username please?
#1295 [13:22] <mib_ux3k4p> lydonboy
#1296 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> !paid lydonboy
#1297 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> ok, what happens when you try to launch it?
#1298 [13:23] <mib_ux3k4p> it says something about the video card or something
#1299 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Update your video card's drivers
#1300 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> what is your OS, RAM and Display Card?
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#1302 [13:24] <mib_ux3k4p> how do i update the video card driver?
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#1304 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what video card you have?
#1305 [13:25] <Vhozard> A red one
#1306 [13:25] <mib_ux3k4p> no :/
#1307 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> ?? win/dxdiag
#1308 [13:25] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1309 [13:25] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1310 [13:25] <mib_aqn6d2> anyone know illegal site for game download ????????
#1311 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> there
#1312 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> !k mib_aqn6d2
#1313 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> !k mib_aqn6d2
#1314 [13:25] * GreyBot kicked mib_aqn6d2 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:640>)
#1315 [13:25] * GreyVulpine blehs
#1315 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> :P
#1316 [13:25] <Vhozard> lol
#1317 [13:26] <Vhozard> I know illegal site
#1318 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> does it support reasons
#1319 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> I know a few
#1320 [13:26] <Vhozard> its just not for game download :O
#1321 [13:26] * Vhozard hides
#1321 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Not with how I scripted that kick command
#1322 [13:26] <xales> I like my /comply alias :)
#1323 [13:26] <xales> 13:26:40 Aliases:
#1324 [13:26] <xales> 13:26:40 comply /kick $0 You do not comply with our vision of a superior IRC user.
#1325 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> All I was interested in, was keeping track of how many kicks Greybot has done.
#1326 [13:27] <mib_ux3k4p> is updating your video card's driver free?
#1327 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1328 [13:27] <mib_ux3k4p> kk, ill try and find out what it is
#1329 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> If you give us your dxdiag, we can tell you how to update it
#1330 [13:28] <Vhozard> theyll probably find ur ip and hax0r you
#1331 [13:28] <Vhozard> I should be careful
#1332 [13:28] * GreyVulpine baps Vhozard
#1332 [13:28] <mib_ux3k4p> whats dxdiag?
#1333 [13:29] <Vhozard> -_-
#1334 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
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#1336 [13:29] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1337 [13:29] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1338 [13:29] <mib_ux3k4p> sorry, im a noob
#1339 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Follow those directions
#1340 [13:29] <Vhozard> those instructions are great
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#1342 [13:29] <mib_ux3k4p> win key?
#1343 [13:29] <Vhozard> too lazy to type --> ??
#1344 [13:29] <Morrolan> ?? win/key
#1345 [13:29] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1346 [13:29] <Vhozard> nice implementation
#1347 [13:30] <Morrolan> The one with the little flag on it.
#1348 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> or just do Start->Run
#1349 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> It's not just "Too lazy to type".. it's "Too arsed to type the same thing over for the 9000²th time
#1350 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> "
#1351 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> who owns VoxelHead?
#1352 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Dope
#1353 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> k
#1354 [13:33] <mib_ux3k4p> what do i do then?
#1355 [13:33] <mib_ux3k4p> soz, im a bit slow
#1356 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Where are you? What have you done?
#1357 [13:33] <mib_ux3k4p> i pressed the windows key and r
#1358 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Did it bring up a run command?
#1359 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> Type in it: dxdiag
#1360 [13:34] <mib_ux3k4p> kk
#1361 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> then apply pressure to Enter key
#1362 [13:34] <mib_ux3k4p> windows could not find dxdiag
#1363 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: does DirectX ship with windows XP by default
#1364 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> cant remember
#1365 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Usually does.
#1366 [13:35] <KriLL3> it does
#1367 [13:35] <mib_ux3k4p> soooo, what can i do?
#1368 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> Mib_ux3k4p: what OS are you using?
#1369 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Alright, let's do this.
#1370 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, go to the control panel
#1371 [13:35] <mib_ux3k4p> OS ?
#1372 [13:35] <mib_ux3k4p> kk
#1373 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> operating system, e.g windows 7
#1374 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a System icon?
#1375 [13:37] <mib_ux3k4p> i think its microsoft windows XP
#1376 [13:37] <mib_ux3k4p> home edition version 2002
#1377 [13:37] <KriLL3> who still uses XP willingly?
#1378 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Go to the System icon in your control panel
#1379 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> KriLL3: me
#1380 [13:37] <KriLL3> tyteen4a03: you're a madman
#1381 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Hey, I still use XP on my main box.
#1382 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> I love XP
#1383 [13:38] <KriLL3> XP can't make use of modern hardware, and it's so awkward to use
#1384 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> like, which?
#1385 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Only thing it doesn't take full use of, are SSDs.
#1386 [13:38] <KriLL3> XP would look at my SSD and way "Wha?"
#1387 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> It handles everything else just fine
#1388 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> exFAT, IPv6, and other stuff
#1389 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> SSDs work fine, they just don't take use of the new TRIM command of SSDs
#1390 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> (leading to increased wear, and decreased lifetime of the SSD drive, but still)
#1391 [13:39] <KriLL3> GreyVulpine: and lower performance
#1392 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> anyways mib_ux3k4p, try Windows + R again
#1393 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> and this time
#1394 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> type in
#1395 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> msinfo32.exe
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#1397 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> (this idea popped up in my mind because of the .nfos shipped with the cracks :P)
#1398 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> mib_ux3k4p: you there?
#1399 [13:41] <mib_ux3k4p> ye
#1400 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> ?? win/r
#1401 [13:41] <KriLL3> hmm, "system model" is that something it detects from the mobo?
#1402 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> mib_ux3k4p: Windows+R, msinfo32.exre
#1403 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> *exe
#1404 [13:41] <KriLL3> winkey + R
#1405 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> yeah, that
#1406 [13:41] <KriLL3> seems to "Rampage Formula" heh
#1407 [13:42] <KriLL3> *so
#1408 [13:42] <mib_ux3k4p> nothing happened
#1409 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> msinfo32.exe
#1410 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> are you typing that into the field?
#1411 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> because I had a typo :3
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#1414 [13:43] <mib_ux3k4p> oh wait system information just popped up
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#1416 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> Click Modules
#1417 [13:43] <mib_ux3k4p> kk
#1418 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> I mean, double-click
#1419 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> Then select Display
#1420 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> tell us the name
#1421 [13:44] <mib_ux3k4p> where is modules
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#1423 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> the third in the index at your left
#1424 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> I have no idea what that is in english derp
#1425 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> ?? index
#1426 [13:45] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#1427 [13:46] <ogreinside> hi all, I bought a gift code yesterday, but have not received the code via email. I see the web help section says it can take 2 days, but says I should be able to see the code on my profile. I do not see a code, but have the receipt that the charge went through via paypal. Any suggestions?
#1428 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> email payment@mojang.com
#1429 [13:46] <ogreinside> tyteen4a03: thank you very much
#1430 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> "Everyone who bought a gift code within the last 24 h will get the payments processed this evening when the data from PayPal comes in. Peace."
#1431 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> np
#1432 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/71514374833049601
#1433 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> now I dont know about that :P
#1434 [13:47] <ogreinside> GreyVulpine: awesome, thanks. I just want to play with my 4 yr old :) Built her a computer, and she can't wait. Been playing portal 2 with her
#1435 [13:47] <ogreinside> and she keeps saying "I want to play minecraft!"
#1436 [13:47] * GreyVulpine nods
#1436 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> is your child gifted
#1437 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> ogreinside: jw, is your child gifted?
#1438 [13:48] <ogreinside> tyteen4a03: she definitely is, doesn't move lightning fast in-game, but she knows how
#1439 [13:48] <ogreinside> tyteen4a03: she's very smart, but never had her tested
#1440 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> I would take her to a test
#1441 [13:48] <mib_ux3k4p> smartness test?
#1442 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> some sort yes
#1443 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> I tested at 11, but it was too late for development
#1444 [13:48] <mib_ux3k4p> gifted kids ftw
#1445 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> and stuff like that
#1446 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> :(
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#1448 [13:48] <ogreinside> I can't believe we just finished section 3 in portal 2 - of course, the game makes it easy to point in-game and I tell her to put a portal there, but she knows WASD, and how to right/left click
#1449 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Wow, that's pretty neat.
#1450 [13:49] <ogreinside> I thikn we'll have some great minecraft times
#1451 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> I am a gifted child too and I cant solve some tests :P
#1452 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> had to look at the walkthrough
#1453 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> mib_ux3k4p: found your display card yet?
#1454 [13:50] <mib_ux3k4p> no :(
#1455 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> k
#1456 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> at the very top
#1457 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> select File -> Export
#1458 [13:50] <ogreinside> tyteen4a03: oh, on the single player I got stumped a couple of times, but I didn't let myself look :)
#1459 [13:51] <mib_ux3k4p> ye...
#1460 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> save it to your desktop
#1461 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> then upload it to http://www.mediafire.com/
#1462 [13:51] <mib_ux3k4p> save what?
#1463 [13:51] <ogreinside> tyteen4a03: I like to bang my head on something over and over until I get it - that's one of the main lessons I've daughter in life - try, try again no matter what
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#1465 [13:51] <ogreinside> *teach her
#1466 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> ogreinside: I just sv_cheats 1 :P
#1467 [13:51] <ogreinside> heh ;)
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#1469 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> mib_ux3k4p: in the System Information
#1470 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> exe
#1471 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> or something
#1472 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> at the top click on Files -> Export
#1473 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Hey ogreinside - Have you finished Portal 2 yet?
#1474 [13:52] <mib_ux3k4p> mhm
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#1476 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> save it to info.txt or something
#1477 [13:53] <ogreinside> GreyVulpine: I sure did, recently. I uploaded my ending the other day (major spoiler warning): youtube.com/ogreinside
#1478 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> make sure you have a .txt extension
#1479 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> ogreinside: I love the ending :P
#1480 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll appreciate this ogreinside - http://rain.nxe7.com
#1481 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> mib_ux3k4p
#1482 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> done?
#1483 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> ogreinside - Also, http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6715/cakenc.jpg
#1484 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> mib_ux3k4p
#1485 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> whatever, I will query you the directions, have to go
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#1488 [13:56] <mib_z00p92> Hello can someone help me?
#1489 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps.
#1490 [13:56] <ogreinside> GreyVulpine: very cool!
#1491 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Ooo.. skin uploads are working again.
#1492 [13:57] <mib_z00p92> When i start up Minecraft everything is doubled in colors side by side
#1493 [13:57] <mib_z00p92> one a greyish color the other a pinkish color
#1494 [13:57] <mib_z00p92> sounds familiar to anyone?
#1495 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> mib_z00p92: sounds like you had alaglyph mode on
#1496 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> go into video options and turn that off.
#1497 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> also, g'morning, #minecrafthelp
#1498 [13:58] <Morrolan> Evenin', Dope.
#1499 [13:58] <mib_z00p92> wow haha thanks
#1500 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Mornin' DG
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#1506 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> mib_z00p92: (also, if one side looked greyish and not bluish, have yourself tested for color-blindness)
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#1508 [14:08] * Kealper is back
#1508 [14:08] * xales is front
#1508 [14:08] <Kealper> oh wait, that didn't look automated enough
#1509 [14:09] * Kealper is back: gone (1 hour, 17 minutes, 31 seconds)
#1509 [14:09] * xales is front (here 666:666:666)
#1509 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> Skin uploads are working again!
#1510 [14:09] <Kealper> speaking of 666
#1511 [14:09] <xales> \o/
#1512 [14:09] <Kealper> end of the world tomorrow, who else is going to join me in pointing and laughing?
#1513 [14:10] <Kealper> (on the 22nd, ofcourse)
#1514 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't that supposed to have come and gone with the Y2k bug?
#1515 [14:10] <Kealper> exactly lol
#1516 [14:10] * xolotl is mostly just looking forward to all that nonsense being over
#1516 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Nuclear winter and all that?
#1517 [14:10] <Kealper> xolotl: don't worry, the crazies will just pick another date when this one fails
#1518 [14:10] <xolotl> Kealper: Yeah, this current one's so damn omnipresent though
#1519 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> 2025, when social security runs out..
#1520 [14:10] <xolotl> Highly annoying
#1521 [14:10] <Kealper> and Family Radio will just claim it was nore "mathmatical errors on their part" again
#1522 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> There will be riots in the street, by people armed with their scooters.
#1523 [14:11] <Kealper> lol
#1524 [14:11] <Kealper> anyways
#1525 [14:11] <Kealper> it's friday, friday, gotta get Deadmau5 playing on friday...
#1526 [14:12] <ogreinside> laters peeps, thanks for the help
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#1528 [14:12] <Kealper> lol at the quit message
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#1530 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: I assume that by now you have seen Stephen Colbert and the Rootz covering that song?
#1531 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> It was epic.
#1532 [14:14] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: sadly, i haven't....should i? lol
#1533 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> you definitely should
#1534 [14:14] <Morrolan> Some guy in #rsw: http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/putz.jpg
#1535 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> comedy frelling gol.d
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#1537 [14:15] <Kealper> gol.d?
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#1539 [14:15] <Kealper> did a . sneak in that? lol
#1540 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> gold.
#1541 [14:15] <Jethr0Paladin> Fuckin' AG_Scott's a faggot.
#1542 [14:15] * AuBot kicked Jethr0Paladin from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please keep it civil.)
#1543 [14:15] <AG_Scott> xales, ^
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#1545 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> AG_Scott: on it.
#1546 [14:15] <Kealper> <3 AuBot
#1547 [14:15] <TrickstA_19> how do you appeal on blocktopia
#1548 [14:15] * xales kicked Jethr0Paladin from #minecrafthelp (Reason: You do not comply with our vision of a superior IRC user.)
#1549 [14:16] <Kealper> AG_Scott: angry customer? lol
#1550 [14:16] <AG_Scott> No
#1551 [14:16] <xales> Kealper: #minecraft
#1552 [14:16] <xales> ._.
#1553 [14:16] <Kealper> oh
#1554 [14:16] <AG_Scott> we just banned him from #minecraft
#1555 [14:16] <Kealper> ._.
#1556 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> Dammit, xales
#1557 [14:16] <Vhozard> why did get banned?
#1558 [14:16] <Kealper> Vhozard: beacuse we're on power trips
#1559 [14:16] <xales> ^
#1560 [14:17] <Vhozard> I wanted to say
#1561 [14:17] <Vhozard> why did I get banned
#1562 [14:17] <Vhozard> :/
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#1564 [14:17] <AG_Scott> Well, he started saying things about Islamists, got kicked, and continued to do it.
#1565 [14:17] <TrickstA_19> cus i was playing zombie survival and then i made this box thing and no-one could find me for 2 rounds so some dude banned me
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#1567 [14:17] <xales> Vhozard: You didn't?
#1568 [14:17] <AG_Scott> Is it Islamics or Islamists?
#1569 [14:17] <AG_Scott> I cannot ever remember.
#1570 [14:17] <Vhozard> Terrorists
#1571 [14:17] <Kealper> in all seriousness though, he was banned because he was being a douche in #minecraft, and then came in here to bash people instead of ask nicely
#1572 [14:17] <xales> AG_Scott: The former, I believe
#1573 [14:17] <fracture7> This is the minecraft help thing right?
#1574 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> fracture7 - Yes
#1575 [14:18] <Vhozard> I think thats the right spelling
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#1577 [14:18] <Kealper> and it's Islamics
#1578 [14:18] <fracture7> Just bought it. Wont work. narrowed it down to an access exception error or something.
#1579 [14:18] <Kealper> technically, it'd be Muslims, but Islamics works :P
#1580 [14:18] <TrickstA_19> how do you appeal then??
#1581 [14:18] <AG_Scott> Vhozard, that's the sort of thing that got him banned.
#1582 [14:18] <fracture7> what do i do
#1583 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> fracture7 - Can you post the error at pastebin.com
#1584 [14:18] <xales> fracture7: Can you pastebin (http://pastebin.com/) the entire error?
#1585 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Give us the URL
#1586 [14:18] <Vhozard> AG_Scott: yeah, I was trying to figure it out
#1587 [14:18] <fracture7> sure, 1 sec
#1588 [14:18] <Vhozard> thanks you responded :)
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#1590 [14:19] <mib_ajavqb> I only play when domoverzi browser so my window nachce not read, write me something that ne
#1591 [14:19] <TrickstA_19> how do you appeal
#1592 [14:19] <TrickstA_19> som1 please tell me
#1593 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> TrickstA_19 - You'll need to contact the server admin
#1594 [14:19] <fracture7> http://pastebin.com/GW3rpiEu
#1595 [14:19] <fracture7> there you are
#1596 [14:19] <GreyVulpine> We have no control over people who run servers here
#1597 [14:20] <TrickstA_19> ok
#1598 [14:20] <xales> fracture7: You need to update your graphics card driver
#1599 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> fracture7 - Update your ATI video drivers
#1600 [14:20] <mib_ajavqb> Oh thank you
#1601 [14:20] <fracture7> Have done. Many guides instructed me to do that
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#1603 [14:21] <Vhozard> Why do people never update those :(
#1604 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> fracture7 - How did you try?
#1605 [14:22] <fracture7> Downloaded the ATI catylist control center thingy. Or atleast thats what popped up on the desktop after i installed everything
#1606 [14:22] <fracture7> I found it hard to actually find a driver for the card i have
#1607 [14:22] <fracture7> (Radeon 1925)
#1608 [14:22] <xales> Let me see
#1609 [14:23] <xales> What version of Windows are you running (assuming Windows)?
#1610 [14:23] <fracture7> Xp
#1611 [14:24] <xales> hmm
#1612 [14:25] <xales> ??> fracture7 win/dxdiag
#1613 [14:25] <VoxelHead> fracture7: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#1614 [14:25] <VoxelHead> fracture7: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#1616 [14:25] <fracture7> Sure, i'll do that now
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#1618 [14:25] <AG_Scott> how did i part? :/
#1619 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> AG_Scott (~scott@allgamer.net) has parted. (Ex-Chat)
#1620 [14:26] <Kealper> with /part? lol
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#1622 [14:26] <AG_Scott> Odd. I was in #minecraft and the channel just disappeared
#1623 [14:26] <Kealper> znc is becoming sentient :o
#1624 [14:29] <fracture7> Couldnt find anything called "save log" but there was a "save all information" button which gave me a text file to save on the desktop
#1625 [14:29] <fracture7> http://pastebin.com/9L7gWW4S
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#1627 [14:29] <fracture7> here it is
#1628 [14:29] <iSwaggy> hello
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#1632 [14:30] <ferdinand> Hello? Anyone mind helping me? :]
#1633 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1634 [14:31] <ferdinand> I'm getting the Bad Video card drivers error, but I definitely have the most recent graphics driver available...
#1635 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> fracture7 - Try a complete uninstall of your video drivers, and a reinstall
#1636 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - How do you know you've got the most recent drivers?
#1637 [14:31] <mib_ajavqb> I have a processor Intel PROSet
#1638 [14:31] <mib_ajavqb> what kind of link I copy
#1639 [14:31] <fracture7> How do i do that?
#1640 [14:31] <xales> fracture7: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/radeon-prer300-xp.aspx
#1641 [14:31] <ferdinand> The Intell thing that checks for you:
#1642 [14:31] <ferdinand> Graphics Driver Product Detected Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family Current Driver Installed 6.14.10.5355 Your driver is current.
#1643 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - How much RAM do you have?
#1644 [14:32] <ferdinand> My laptop says 4GB
#1645 [14:32] <fracture7> right, i'll give that ago
#1646 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - You used http://downloadcenter.intel.com/ ?
#1647 [14:33] <ferdinand> Yeah
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#1649 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> What kind of computer do you have? Desktop? Laptop?
#1650 [14:33] <ferdinand> Laptop
#1651 [14:34] <fracture7> xales: Wait, i already have downloaded that. Installed it, and restarted the computer. I still have the problem though
#1652 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Have you checked your laptop manufacturer's website
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#1654 [14:35] <ferdinand> Yeah, I downloaded the driver they suggested as well and it still didn't work (Then i went on Intel and they said there was a more current one which I then also downloaded but still didn't work)
#1655 [14:35] <iSwaggy> Guys, everytime I start minecraft on my laptop it gives me a min or two of perfect game play and then gives me blue screen of death
#1656 [14:36] <AG_Scott> Don't you just love BSoDs?
#1657 [14:36] <iSwaggy> no
#1658 [14:36] <xales> fracture7: Your graphics card might not support it then, it's rather old
#1659 [14:36] <xales> But try re-installing that anyway
#1660 [14:36] <xales> it may be a newer version
#1661 [14:36] <AG_Scott> I installed Windows 7 Professional on a server a few days ago and it just kept BSoDing.
#1662 [14:36] <xales> iSwaggy: Is it overheating?
#1663 [14:36] <iSwaggy> no
#1664 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Try downloading it again
#1665 [14:36] <Captain-Lightning> They are the best, AG_Scott.
#1666 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Use: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+controllers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+4+Series+Express+Chipset+Family&ProdId=2991&LineId=1101&FamilyId=39
#1667 [14:37] <fracture7> The thing is, i have torrented the game... (yeah, i like to try out games before i buy them) And it works fine on version 1.50_1. For some reason, the paid version doesnt work...
#1668 [14:37] <Captain-Lightning> I only use windows because when I get a BSD I can use my monitor to mood light my room.
#1669 [14:37] <Captain-Lightning> Where the mood is always "BLUE ERROR", of course.
#1670 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - If that doesn't work, try an uninstall/reinstall of the graphics drivers
#1671 [14:38] <iSwaggy> guys, if I defragged my desktop would ram increase?
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#1673 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#1674 [14:38] <iSwaggy> so only solution to more ram is to buy more ram
#1675 [14:40] <AG_Scott> Well, there's a site where you can download more RAM.
#1676 [14:40] <AG_Scott> http://www.downloadmoreram.com/
#1677 [14:40] * AG_Scott laughs.
#1677 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Don't tell me that's a real site..
#1678 [14:40] <Captain-Lightning> Dude, does that work?
#1679 [14:40] <AG_Scott> It is.
#1680 [14:40] <AG_Scott> xD
#1681 [14:40] <Captain-Lightning> CAN I UPGARED MY RAM WITH THIS?1ONE!
#1682 [14:41] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#1682 [14:41] <AG_Scott> go download some GreyVulpine
#1683 [14:41] <Captain-Lightning> Will do.
#1684 [14:41] <Captain-Lightning> Care to share a torrent, friend?
#1685 [14:41] <Captain-Lightning> thepiratebay.org/torrents/GreyVulpine
#1686 [14:42] <Vhozard> lolololol^^^^^^^^^^^
#1687 [14:42] <fracture7> Erm, am i still being helped? lol
#1688 [14:42] <xales> fracture7: Try playing it in your browser
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#1690 [14:43] <ferdinand> Back
#1691 [14:43] <fracture7> Well, thats not exactly a solution to the problem. and i would rather just play it without having the browser hogging any more resourses
#1692 [14:43] <xales> Front
#1693 [14:44] <xales> fracture7: Your computer may not be able to run it outside of the browser
#1694 [14:44] <ferdinand> Yeah that other driver didn't work :/ How do I go about an uninstall/reinstall of drivers
#1695 [14:44] <xales> GreyVulpine: ^
#1696 [14:44] <fracture7> But i know it can... I have had a torrented version working for weeks now
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#1698 [14:45] <fracture7> A torrented version of the newest minecraft update mind you
#1699 [14:45] <iSwaggy> someone buy me a fez
#1700 [14:45] <xales> Does it work in the browser?
#1701 [14:45] <xales> The torrented version likely works the same way the browser one does.
#1702 [14:45] <fracture7> I will give that a go
#1703 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Try looking at Add/remove programs or Programs and features in your windows control panel.
#1704 [14:46] <ferdinand> Coolies :] thanks
#1705 [14:46] <frozen> hey, anyone here have the knowledge with how to deal with station commands in minecraft mania? I dont think they have a plugin IRC chat
#1706 [14:46] <AG_Scott> frozen, try #bukkit
#1707 [14:46] <Wug> dopeghoti, are you ther
#1708 [14:46] <frozen> oh yes
#1709 [14:46] <frozen> tthanks
#1710 [14:46] <Wug> I have limited time
#1711 [14:47] <fracture7> Nope. No dice.
#1712 [14:47] <fracture7> nothing even shows up in firefox or IE
#1713 [14:48] <xales> fracture7: And you installed that driver I linked you to and rebooted?
#1714 [14:48] <fracture7> Yes. I did that prior to coming here
#1715 [14:48] <fracture7> Exact same download
#1716 [14:48] <xales> fracture7: Was it the same name, or from exactly the same page?
#1717 [14:49] <fracture7> Same name, same page
#1718 [14:49] <xales> Try re-installing it anyway...it never hurts
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#1720 [14:50] <fracture7> Ughhhh. this will take a while, since i'll have to restart again. I'll be back
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#1723 [14:55] <fuogo> hello?
#1724 [14:55] <fracture7> Right. Done, hasnt worked.
#1725 [14:55] <fuogo> I need help
#1726 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> ?? ask
#1727 [14:55] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1728 [14:55] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1731 [14:56] <fuogo> I cant seem to play minecraft anymore, i log in and it get to the mojang bit and then this error box quickly appears and disapears so i can't read it and then minecraft closes
#1732 [14:57] <fuogo> ask:I cant seem to play minecraft anymore, i log in and it get to the mojang bit and then this error box quickly appears and disapears so i can't read it and then minecraft closes
#1733 [14:57] <xales> ??> fuogo win/reinst
#1734 [14:57] <VoxelHead> fuogo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1735 [14:57] <VoxelHead> fuogo: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1737 [14:58] <fuogo> i have
#1738 [14:58] <fuogo> oh wait not all of that
#1739 [14:58] <opticgreen> minecraft wonnt work when i download it it just closes after 1 min after i log in also is says minecraft crashed when i try to play it online too
#1740 [14:58] <xales> opticgreen: Is there an error message?
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#1743 [14:59] <opticgreen> yes only online .offline it just closes all by itself
#1744 [14:59] <fracture7> xales: yeah, reinstalling hasnt worked. Is it possible to get a refund on this game?
#1745 [14:59] <xales> Can you copy the error to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the error?
#1746 [14:59] <xales> fracture7: Only if you bought it less than a week ago
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#1748 [15:00] <fracture7> I bought it about 3 hours ago man
#1749 [15:00] <opticgreen> i did buy it less than a week ago
#1750 [15:00] <xales> Email payment@mojang.com then fracture7
#1751 [15:00] <opticgreen> 3 days ago
#1752 [15:00] <xales> opticgreen: I wasn't talking to you
#1753 [15:00] <opticgreen> kk
#1754 [15:00] <fuogo> same but i'm not getting refund, because min ecraft is awesome
#1755 [15:00] <xales> opticgreen: Please copy the errror you get to pastebin, http://pastebin.com and give us the link
#1756 [15:01] <xales> fuogo: Try playing it in the browser
#1757 [15:01] <fracture7> Sorted. Thanks. I'll just keep playing the version i have that workes
#1758 [15:02] <fracture7> xales: Do i need to include any specific information? user name, do i change the subject at all?
#1759 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> fracture7 - Use http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1760 [15:02] <opticgreen> there is no more error message the square box that you play in dissapears
#1761 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Go to payment -> refund
#1762 [15:02] <xales> ??> opticgreen win/reinst
#1763 [15:02] <VoxelHead> opticgreen: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1764 [15:02] <VoxelHead> opticgreen: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1765 [15:02] <fracture7> What the hell, they dont accept refunds apparently??
#1766 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> They do, if the game doesn't work, within the week that you buy the game
#1767 [15:03] <opticgreen> tried that twice it worked awhile then it dont work
#1768 [15:03] <xales> opticgreen: Try it again?
#1769 [15:03] <opticgreen> kk 2 min
#1770 [15:04] <fracture7> greyvulpine: well there is no indication of that. There are no links informing me what to do?
#1771 [15:04] <opticgreen> it didnt work
#1772 [15:05] <fuogo> wait does it help if i tell that this happened after i tried to use a texture pack, because it froze and closed when i selected it?
#1773 [15:05] <xales> fuogo: Delete the texture pack
#1774 [15:05] <fuogo> ok
#1775 [15:05] <xales> opticgreen: Look for a hs_err_pid file in the minecraft folder
#1776 [15:05] <opticgreen> ok
#1777 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> fracture7 - Try sending them an email anyways, include your minecraft username, your transaction/receipt ID.
#1778 [15:06] <fracture7> will do.
#1779 [15:06] <fracture7> I'll be back for you if this doesnt help grey :P
#1780 [15:06] <opticgreen> where is it ?
#1781 [15:07] <xales> opticgreen: Look in the folder where you have the minecraft.exe
#1782 [15:07] <fuogo> Thank you ! You guys are awesome!
#1783 [15:07] <opticgreen> ok
#1784 [15:07] <fuogo> Lots of love fuogo
#1785 [15:08] <opticgreen> when i click it it brings up minecraft
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#1787 [15:10] <xales> opticgreen: No, look in the folder where the minecraft.exe is
#1788 [15:11] <opticgreen> there is no minecraft folder
#1789 [15:11] <opticgreen> that i can find
#1790 [15:12] <mib_qfp0ze> hello i have a video driver question
#1791 [15:12] <xales> Just ask
#1792 [15:12] <xales> opticgreen: It is the folder that you saved Minecraft.exe to
#1793 [15:12] <xales> if it is on your desktop, then look on your desktop
#1794 [15:13] <mib_qfp0ze> i have been told that my Radeon x 1300/x1550 series (Microsoft) driver is too old would a ATI Technologies Inc. RAGE 128 PRO AGP 4X TMDS 6.13.3279 (Windows) be any better?
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#1796 [15:14] <xales> That is for the wrong graphics card, so no
#1797 [15:14] <xales> What OS are you running?
#1798 [15:14] <mib_qfp0ze> windows 7
#1799 [15:15] <xales> Your graphics card doesn't support Windows 7
#1800 [15:15] <mib_qfp0ze> the radeon one?
#1801 [15:16] <mib_qfp0ze> so how is my computer running?
#1802 [15:16] <mib_qfp0ze> o well that was my question thankyou
#1803 [15:17] <xales> The card doesn't need to be supported to run Windows
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#1806 [15:17] <xales> It does, however, for accelerated video
#1807 [15:18] <mib_qfp0ze> so my only option is to buy a new driver right?
#1808 [15:19] <xales> No
#1809 [15:19] <xales> Drivers are software, and they do not cost money
#1810 [15:19] <xales> You would have to get a new computer
#1811 [15:19] <mib_qfp0ze> o... so the computer is the problem?
#1812 [15:19] <xales> Yes.
#1813 [15:20] <mib_qfp0ze> what if i get a different video card
#1814 [15:20] <xales> You can't
#1815 [15:20] <xales> Rather, I suppose you _could_ if it's not a laptop
#1816 [15:20] <mib_qfp0ze> ya it is not
#1817 [15:21] <xales> but it would be cheaper to buy a new computer given the age of the card you would need to replace it with
#1818 [15:21] <mib_qfp0ze> unless i had different card in other computers not being used correct?
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#1820 [15:21] <xales> Only if that card could actually play it, and fit in your computer
#1821 [15:24] <iSwaggy> to run minecraft do I have to have windows 7?
#1822 [15:24] <xales> No.
#1823 [15:24] <Vhozard> No, windows 3.1
#1824 [15:24] <mib_qfp0ze> ya i have more card slots but not better cards i dont think
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#1826 [15:24] <xales> mib_qfp0ze: Then that won't help.
#1827 [15:25] <mib_qfp0ze> if im looking to go get a card what would be the specs i should look for?
#1828 [15:25] <Vhozard> number of pci-e pins
#1829 [15:25] <Vhozard> less is better
#1830 [15:25] <xales> Anything modern.
#1831 [15:26] <mib_qfp0ze> anything? so if i get the cheapest thing there it should work
#1832 [15:26] <mib_qfp0ze> ?
#1833 [15:26] <xales> In other words, newer than an nVidia GeForce 8600 or an ATI 5xxx or 6xxx series card
#1834 [15:26] <xales> and no, the cheapest thing will NOT work
#1835 [15:26] <Vhozard> uhm
#1836 [15:26] <xales> or, not well
#1837 [15:26] <Vhozard> an ATI/AMD 4850 works perfect
#1838 [15:26] <xales> the problem is that modern cards may not fit your computer..
#1839 [15:26] <Vhozard> Does he have agp still?
#1840 [15:26] <xales> which is why I said it would be cheaper to just get a new computer
#1841 [15:26] <mib_qfp0ze> ok
#1842 [15:26] <xales> Vhozard: I'm sure it does, but those aren't really sold any more :P
#1843 [15:27] <Vhozard> they are sold
#1844 [15:27] <mib_qfp0ze> ya ok thanks
#1845 [15:27] <Vhozard> there are some good cards that still use agp
#1846 [15:27] <Vhozard> but its kinda hopeless, just get a new mobo
#1847 [15:27] <xales> Well, not manufactured
#1848 [15:27] <mib_qfp0ze> so im
#1849 [15:27] <mib_qfp0ze> mobo?
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#1851 [15:27] <xales> Yeah, if you don't know what that is, you probably can't reaplce it
#1852 [15:28] <xales> The cheapest option is to probably just get a new desktop
#1853 [15:28] <xales> like $300 or something
#1854 [15:28] <iSwaggy> guys, what would you say the min specs for a pc you need for minecraft are
#1855 [15:28] <xales> iSwaggy: If XP, 2GB RAM, if Vista/7, 4GB, any modern GPU and CPU
#1856 [15:29] <mib_qfp0ze> ya not really worth that much to me
#1857 [15:29] <mib_qfp0ze> thanks for the help
#1858 [15:29] <Vhozard> just get a i7 2600k and evga classified and four GTX580's
#1859 [15:29] <iSwaggy> so Im gna need to get atleast 2gb of ram?
#1860 [15:29] <Vhozard> should be just enough
#1861 [15:29] <iSwaggy> ah ok.
#1862 [15:29] <Vhozard> lol, just kidding :P
#1863 [15:30] <Vhozard> yes, 2gb is the bare minimum
#1864 [15:30] <Vhozard> I should really go for 4gb though
#1865 [15:30] <iSwaggy> i dont k now much about my laptop but the 2 wierd card type slots that come in and out empty can be used for ram?
#1866 [15:30] <iSwaggy> im on xp
#1867 [15:30] <Vhozard> get win 7?
#1868 [15:30] <xales> No.
#1869 [15:30] <xales> If you have a laptop, you most likely cannot install more RAM
#1870 [15:30] <xales> and you can certainly not do it on your own
#1871 [15:30] <iSwaggy> ah ok
#1872 [15:30] <xales> You would probably have to take it to a computer store which has equipment to do that for you
#1873 [15:31] <iSwaggy> how do I find what type of ram i need to buy (on my desktop) I have both.
#1874 [15:31] <xales> Open it up and look at it.
#1875 [15:31] <iSwaggy> ok
#1876 [15:31] <iSwaggy> back in a bit
#1877 [15:32] <Vhozard> xales, thats not true at all
#1878 [15:32] <xales> Vhozard: What?
#1879 [15:32] <Vhozard> for most laptops its just a case of screwing it open and placing it in
#1880 [15:32] <xales> Yes, but I'm not going to recommend that to someone who doesn't even know where the RAM goes.
#1881 [15:32] <Vhozard> RAM usually is the easiest to replace on a laptop
#1882 [15:33] <Vhozard> they could try a tutorial from google :P
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#1884 [15:33] <Vhozard> its how I learned about pc's
#1885 [15:33] <Vhozard> :D
#1886 [15:33] <xales> ._.
#1887 [15:33] <xales> Also, "PCs"
#1888 [15:33] <xales> I think you mean "Computers"
#1889 [15:33] <Vhozard> its the same?
#1890 [15:34] <Vhozard> personal computer / computer
#1891 [15:34] <xales> Building a server is just the same as building a desktop/laptop. Just different components (usually) and a different style of case (usually) and no video card (usually)
#1892 [15:34] <Vhozard> depends
#1893 [15:34] <xales> No, not really.
#1894 [15:34] <Vhozard> if youre going for a home server or a real compact xU type of server
#1895 [15:34] <Vhozard> aka high end
#1896 [15:35] <xales> Most high-end servers are towers or rackmounts
#1897 [15:35] <AG_Scott> I like high end tower servers :)
#1898 [15:35] <xales> which are not compact
#1899 [15:35] <AG_Scott> That's pretty much all we use now days.
#1900 [15:35] <Vhozard> they are compact
#1901 [15:35] <AG_Scott> Dell PowerEdge T-series.
#1902 [15:35] <xales> No, not at _all_
#1903 [15:35] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I like high end supercomputers.
#1904 [15:35] <Vhozard> Yes they are
#1905 [15:35] <Vhozard> number of cpu's+ram per cm height
#1906 [15:36] <xales> The _only_ compact servers I have seen is an array of Blades running a distributed virtual server
#1907 [15:36] <Vhozard> then they are very compact compared to normal cases
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#1909 [15:36] <xales> And then, one of them doesn't do much on it's own
#1910 [15:36] <xales> There were like 10 of them
#1911 [15:36] <xales> ._.
#1912 [15:36] <Vhozard> xales, I meant rackmounts indeed
#1913 [15:36] <AG_Scott> This is is our VPS nodes: http://i.dell.com/images/global/products/root/server-poweredge-t410.jpg
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#1917 [15:37] <mib_log2qw> hello
#1918 [15:37] <xales> Hi.
#1919 [15:37] <boblo> ok, i just started a server yesterday(bukkit) and i wanted to know what plugins are good to start out with
#1920 [15:37] <xales> boblo: #bukkit
#1921 [15:37] <boblo> k ty
#1922 [15:37] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Nooo
#1923 [15:37] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Now we have to support people D:
#1924 [15:37] <xales> lukegb: Yesssss
#1925 [15:37] <xales> :D
#1926 [15:37] <mib_log2qw> can somone help me i just bought minecraft and nothing is working and i want my money back ahhhh this is bull
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#1928 [15:38] <xales> mib_log2qw: "Nothing is working"
#1929 [15:38] <xales> What are you trying to do, and what happens?
#1930 [15:38] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :xales: your true identity as a creeper whas been revealed
#1931 [15:38] <mib_log2qw> im trying to make my own server
#1932 [15:38] <AG_Scott> xales has a creeper suit.
#1933 [15:38] <AG_Scott> he scares children
#1934 [15:38] <xales> mib_log2qw: Okay...and what is not working?
#1935 [15:39] <mib_log2qw> i dont want to play with others yet i jsut want my own world, but aparently you have to be plugged into your router to make a server?
#1936 [15:39] <Vhozard> I have a Bob the Builder suit
#1937 [15:39] <Vhozard> I attract/lure children
#1938 [15:39] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :AG_Scott: you're no better. You have a rebecca black costume :<
#1939 [15:39] <xales> mib_log2qw: If you don't want to play with others, then play Single player
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#1941 [15:39] <AG_Scott> I like her :>
#1942 [15:39] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :RB. Rebecca black.
#1943 [15:39] <mib_log2qw> i want to be able to use commands
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#1945 [15:39] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Friday. Fast lane. Slow lane.
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#1947 [15:39] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Seat. Back seat. Friday.
#1948 [15:39] <AG_Scott> lukegb, change "RB" to "Rebecca Black" all over bukkit.org
#1949 [15:39] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I can rap too! :P
#1950 [15:39] <xales> mib_log2qw: Then install Single Player Commands
#1951 [15:40] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :AG_Scott: but only on Friday.
#1952 [15:40] <mib_log2qw> ok
#1953 [15:40] <AG_Scott> yes
#1954 [15:40] <AG_Scott> today is friday
#1955 [15:40] <AG_Scott> kgo
#1956 [15:40] <mib_log2qw> So there is no way to make a server wirelessly?
#1957 [15:41] <xales> Running a server will make Minecraft very slow unless you have a powerful computer
#1958 [15:41] <xales> Single Player commands is much easier to use
#1959 [15:41] <mib_log2qw> ok thanks for your help
#1960 [15:42] <w3rwrfser> do the commands vary from server to server?
#1961 [15:43] <xales> Some servers have mods which change the commands.
#1962 [15:43] <xales> So yes.
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#1964 [15:43] <w3rwrfser> some or most?
#1965 [15:43] <xales> Probably most public ones.
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#1967 [15:56] <Kealper> there we are
#1968 [15:56] <Kealper> stupid comcast
#1969 [15:56] <Kealper> stupid comcast modem*
#1970 [15:57] <w3rwrfser> anyone know any good minecraft server websites?
#1971 [15:57] <xales> ??> w3rwrfser smp/servers
#1972 [15:57] <VoxelHead> w3rwrfser: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
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#1974 [15:57] <VoxelHead> w3rwrfser: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#1978 [15:59] <mib_2mfdz7> it says cant connect to minecraft.net when i try to sign in
#1979 [16:00] <iSwaggy> oo Im in a rainforest and above the entire thing
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#1981 [16:04] <bread> blimey.
#1982 [16:08] <iSwaggy> how do I make a crafting table thingy? what materials
#1983 [16:09] <bread> iSwaggy, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
#1984 [16:09] <iSwaggy> bread, <3
#1985 [16:09] <bread> \o/
#1986 [16:10] <frozen> cake
#1987 [16:10] <frozen> there is no cake
#1988 [16:10] <bread> lies
#1989 [16:10] <frozen> speaking of, wonder how good that portal plugin for mc is
#1990 [16:10] <frozen> lol
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#1992 [16:13] <iSwaggy> do I want to use a wooden hoe/
#1993 [16:13] <iSwaggy> ?
#1994 [16:14] <frozen> what do you intend to do
#1995 [16:14] <frozen> farm soon or?
#1996 [16:14] <iSwaggy> i was just crafting items
#1997 [16:14] <mib_zvh0vc> i have tried downloading every version of minecraft, and it doesnt work
#1998 [16:14] <Morrolan> mib_zvh0vc, define "doesn't work"
#1999 [16:15] <Kealper> stone is usually the best to use for all tools unless there is a need for something stronger, as stone is strong enough for most things, and you almost never run out of cobblestone to make them with
#2000 [16:15] <mib_zvh0vc> if I even can open it, i get the black window of death. and it crashes a few seconds later
#2001 [16:15] <iSwaggy> whats the colour of cobblestone?
#2002 [16:15] <Kealper> iSwaggy: grey
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#2005 [16:16] <mib_zvh0vc> so, can someone help me?
#2006 [16:16] <frozen> asking again, fully aware i ve asked previously and is going on forums soon, but i hate forums: anyone here got minecart mania?
#2007 [16:16] <iSwaggy> uh-oh
#2008 [16:16] <iSwaggy> first night, iv been mining gone v.far down and is now night time
#2009 [16:16] <Jerk> Not that i'm expecting any help since the forums have given nothing but http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/328192-so-i-cant-launch-the-game-since-the-last-update/
#2010 [16:17] <Kealper> hmm.....
#2011 [16:17] * Kealper puts on his helper hat
#2011 [16:17] <Kealper> gimme a sec, three people at once to sort though
#2012 [16:17] <frozen> i can wait Kealper
#2013 [16:18] <Kealper> frozen: try the channel #Bukkit for multiplayer help with MM, and #risucraft if you need help with the single player MM
#2014 [16:18] <mib_zvh0vc> hey, whenever i try to download any of the minecraft versions, it either cant open, or if it does open, the launcher is screwed up and after i log in it crashes
#2015 [16:18] <frozen> bukkit is stumped/not much of a help right now
#2016 [16:18] <Kealper> mib_zvh0vc: has it ever worked before?
#2017 [16:18] <mib_zvh0vc> nope
#2018 [16:18] <Kealper> frozen: i haven't used MM since it was an actual mod, not just a plugin, so am no help :/
#2019 [16:18] <Morrolan> frozen: There is the #Minecartmania channel, no idea if it's the "official" one though.
#2020 [16:18] <mib_zvh0vc> i have a windows xp
#2021 [16:19] <Kealper> mib_zvh0vc: ok, what specifically is happening? getting a black screen?
#2022 [16:19] <mib_zvh0vc> if it helps
#2023 [16:19] <Morrolan> Jerk: Did you try to reinstall it?
#2024 [16:19] <Morrolan> nvm
#2025 [16:19] <Morrolan> Read the thraed.
#2026 [16:19] <Morrolan> thread*
#2027 [16:19] <Jerk> yeah, look at the video :P
#2028 [16:19] <Kealper> Jerk: have you tried reinstalling your graphics drivers from http://ati.com ?
#2029 [16:19] <Jerk> yep
#2030 [16:20] <iSwaggy> I have to have coal to make fire right
#2031 [16:20] <mib_zvh0vc> yes. the only version i can download is the second windows one. When I open it, the launcher's gui is screwed up, and then when i log in, I get the black screen of death andthe program crashes
#2032 [16:20] <Jerk> I removed my graphics driver all together
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#2034 [16:20] <Jerk> and reinstalled
#2035 [16:20] <Jerk> and updated
#2036 [16:20] <mib_zvh0vc> yes
#2037 [16:20] <mib_zvh0vc> yes
#2038 [16:20] <Kealper> mib_zvh0vc: try playing it in the browser, when it screws up, leave it there and tell me so i can give you further instructions
#2039 [16:20] <mib_zvh0vc> i have already tried that
#2040 [16:21] <Jerk> Until the last update, I was fine.
#2041 [16:21] <iSwaggy> What advice would you give to someone that has digged them selves into a hole and it is now pitch black and at night?
#2042 [16:21] <Kealper> mib_zvh0vc: i figured as much, but the browser version will give some debug info that can help me assess the problem
#2043 [16:21] <Morrolan> Jerk: Not really a fix, but a workaround: Use MCNostalgia to downgrade your version.
#2044 [16:21] <iSwaggy> oh, and I built a roof above me
#2045 [16:21] <Whisperer> Does anyone know why when I'm playing Minecraft, the whole computer freeses and I have to keep shutting it down. Is it because my computer is old an almost no space on it
#2046 [16:21] <Morrolan> iSwaggy: Burn some logs in a furnace for coal, and make some torches then.
#2047 [16:21] <Morrolan> Whisperer: How much RAM does it have?
#2048 [16:21] <iSwaggy> morrolan, i dont have a furnace or many items
#2049 [16:21] <Whisperer> let me chack
#2050 [16:22] <Morrolan> iSwaggy: Do you have some cobble?
#2051 [16:22] <iSwaggy> yes
#2052 [16:22] <iSwaggy> thats what I was collecting
#2053 [16:22] <Whisperer> 1 GB
#2054 [16:22] <Jerk> not looking to downgrade my client, I run a multiplayer server that I would like to partake on
#2055 [16:22] <Jerk> lol
#2056 [16:22] <Morrolan> Ok, you can craft a furnace by placing eight cobble in a square in the crafting bench.
#2057 [16:22] <Morrolan> Jerk: Well, as I said, only a workaround. ;)
#2058 [16:22] <iSwaggy> ffs I dont have 8 cobble
#2059 [16:22] <Morrolan> �
#2060 [16:22] <Morrolan> iSwaggy: Uhm.
#2061 [16:22] <iSwaggy> i need to look down and get 5 more
#2062 [16:23] <mib_zvh0vc> so any idea what my comps problem is?
#2063 [16:23] <Morrolan> Yeah, because being in the dark at night isn't advisable.
#2064 [16:23] <iSwaggy> i have a roof all around me
#2065 [16:23] <iSwaggy> no way in
#2066 [16:23] <Morrolan> Monsters spawn in the dark though.
#2067 [16:23] <Morrolan> So if you're unlucky one will spawn next to you. :D
#2068 [16:23] <iSwaggy> they'll spawn on my head
#2069 [16:23] <iSwaggy> i was planning on digging myself out
#2070 [16:23] <iSwaggy> by making stairs
#2071 [16:23] <Whisperer> Morrolan my computer has a 1 GB RAM
#2072 [16:23] <Morrolan> The outside is even worse at night.
#2073 [16:24] <Kealper> mib_zvh0vc: that is what i would like you to help me find out, but first you have to play it in the browser, wait for it to stop working, leave it there like that, and then tell me
#2074 [16:24] <Morrolan> Whisperer: Oh, sorry. So this shouldn't be the problem.
#2075 [16:24] <mib_zvh0vc> if it helps, i have a windows xp wmedia center edition laptop. It is vista compatible..
#2076 [16:24] <mib_zvh0vc> ok
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#2078 [16:24] <Whisperer> I used to have the Black Screen problem but I fixed it this morning
#2079 [16:25] <Morrolan> Did you already try to reinstall Minecraft?
#2080 [16:25] <Whisperer> I think so
#2081 [16:25] <Morrolan> By removing the bin folder in .minecraft?
#2082 [16:25] <mib_zvh0vc> ok. when i tried the browser version, the tab was recovered every 2 seconds or so
#2083 [16:26] <Whisperer> no
#2084 [16:26] <Morrolan> Ok, Whisperer, which OS are you on? WIndows?
#2085 [16:26] <Whisperer> yea
#2086 [16:27] <Morrolan> ??> Whisperer win/reinst
#2087 [16:27] <VoxelHead> Whisperer: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2088 [16:27] <VoxelHead> Whisperer: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2089 [16:27] <Kealper> mib_zvh0vc: hmm...that isn't normal, do you know how to reinstall Java?
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#2092 [16:27] <wikkit> hey, i was mib_0vc or whatever, but my window crashed
#2093 [16:27] <wikkit> 8(
#2094 [16:28] <wikkit> I had the browser version on in another tab, and it fucked up my ENTIRE system
#2095 [16:28] <Morrolan> Uuuh.
#2096 [16:29] <Morrolan> I really advise you to reinstall your Java then.
#2097 [16:29] <frozen> Kealper: no luck on bukkit, and thanks, i know this isnt a plugin support chat
#2098 [16:29] <wikkit> I play runescape a lot. My java is just fine
#2099 [16:29] <Morrolan> frozen: Doesn't Minecartmania have a wiki or something?
#2100 [16:29] <frozen> Morrolan: #minecartmania is dead, no one is replying and only 2 people in there
#2101 [16:29] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok. :/
#2102 [16:29] <frozen> i did check it out, followed instructions exactly, sitll having that issue
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#2104 [16:30] <frozen> #bukkit has no clue what went wrong
#2105 [16:30] <Morrolan> frozen: Heh, ok then. :/
#2106 [16:30] <frozen> was hoping someone else could help with that, maybe some config i missed somewhere but wiki wasnt that comprhesnive
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#2108 [16:31] <iSwaggy> NOOOOOOOOOOOO
#2109 [16:31] <Morrolan> Sorry, don't use CartMania anymore, switched over to Craftbook's Minecart features, they're good enough for me.
#2110 [16:31] <iSwaggy> MINECRAFT CRASHED :(
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#2112 [16:31] <Morrolan> Just reopen it then, iSwaggy ;)
#2113 [16:31] <wukkit> hey, my browser is seriously crappy right now.
#2114 [16:31] <calatalee> hey my minecraft wont even get passed the loading screen does anyone know wat to do???????????????
#2115 [16:32] <wukkit> Im running a virus scan though. So I was wikkit
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#2117 [16:32] <Morrolan> calatalee: Did you already try to reinstall Minecraft?
#2118 [16:32] <axehead22> i need help
#2119 [16:32] <Morrolan> axehead: With?
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#2121 [16:32] <calatalee> yea id did twice
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#2123 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> ??> calatalee win/reinst
#2124 [16:32] <VoxelHead> calatalee: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2125 [16:32] <VoxelHead> calatalee: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2126 [16:32] <wukkit> Ive reinstalled as many times as the stars
#2127 [16:32] <iSwaggy> brb gna restart
#2128 [16:32] <Morrolan> Ah, just wanted to highlight some of you, getting busy in here.
#2129 [16:32] <Morrolan> Thanks Grey ::)
#2130 [16:32] <axehead22> well i downloaed minecraft.exe and it plays for a while then it doesnt respodi have to exit out and renter
#2131 [16:33] <calatalee> kk one sec.
#2132 [16:33] <axehead22> respond*
#2133 [16:33] <Morrolan> axehead22, how much RAM do you have?
#2134 [16:33] <axehead22> how can i check?
#2135 [16:33] <frozen> oh, i have this weird glitch, i expanded someland into the water and placed fences
#2136 [16:33] <wukkit> what os do you have
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#2138 [16:33] <frozen> in some places the fence are completely invisible visually, but still there physically
#2139 [16:33] <wukkit> axehead, do you have a mac or pc
#2140 [16:33] <frozen> its weird, any idea what it could be
#2141 [16:34] <axehead22> windows 7 laptop
#2142 [16:34] <wukkit> kk. go to My computer, then right click on your hard drive. click properties
#2143 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> frozen - That's a known issue.
#2144 [16:34] <Morrolan> frozen: I thought that was a SMP bug which was fixed ages ago. :/
#2145 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Has been around for a while
#2146 [16:34] <calatalee> ahahahahahahaha omg thanks calatalee it worked for the win thanks peace
#2147 [16:34] <axehead22> k hold on
#2148 [16:34] <Morrolan> So it's not fixed yet? Good to know.
#2149 [16:34] * GreyVulpine shakes
#2149 [16:35] <Morrolan> calatalee: Didn't you say that you've already reinstalled it though? ;)
#2150 [16:35] <axehead22> it says hardrive disks
#2151 [16:35] <frozen> aha, it isnt a big deal, but it took me a second to understand it lol
#2152 [16:35] <wukkit> voxelhead, i jus tried what you told me to, and I dont even have it there
#2153 [16:35] <Whisper> deleting the bin didnt work. When I download minecraft i have to use the second option for windows. I dont get the first one
#2154 [16:36] <leaper> can anyone help me?? (sorry for my bad english i am german) i installed a mod and it doesnt runs i had deinstalled it but now my minecraft doesn`t runs....
#2155 [16:36] <Morrolan> leaper: Windows?
#2156 [16:36] <axehead22> so which one is hardrive?
#2157 [16:36] <leaper> yes
#2158 [16:36] <Morrolan> ??> leaper win/reinst
#2159 [16:36] <VoxelHead> leaper: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2160 [16:36] <VoxelHead> leaper: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2161 [16:37] <leaper> ok one moment..
#2162 [16:37] <frozen> eh,
#2163 [16:37] <wukkit> voxelhead, and it doesnt even have the minecraft direcory
#2164 [16:37] <frozen> is it different in foreign-language windows?
#2165 [16:37] <Morrolan> axehead22, Righ click the "my computer" icon, and select properties
#2166 [16:37] <Morrolan> wukkit: Vox's a bot, waht exactly did it say?
#2167 [16:37] <frozen> just wondering
#2168 [16:37] <axehead22> ok
#2169 [16:37] <Morrolan> axehead22, and then there should be an entry for RAM somewhere.
#2170 [16:38] <frozen> *%appdata% -- is it the same in other foreign language windows?
#2171 [16:38] <wukkit> I run that program, and then i cant find the minecraft directory
#2172 [16:38] <Morrolan> frozen: Yep.
#2173 [16:38] <leaper> no it doesnt run.. ;(
#2174 [16:38] <axehead22> i dont see ram
#2175 [16:38] <Morrolan> axehead22, what exactly do you see?
#2176 [16:38] <frozen> good i remember someweird IRC chat with some german guy getting all angsty over the long german window path names, Morrolan
#2177 [16:39] <Morrolan> leaper: Still not working? Remove the "resources" folder in there as well then.
#2178 [16:39] <frozen> but that was a long time ago
#2179 [16:39] <axehead22> its tells information of my comp
#2180 [16:39] <wukkit> Yes, ram should be in there, axehead
#2181 [16:40] <axehead22> oh installed memory (ram) 3.00 GB
#2182 [16:40] <leaper> "resources" folder and the "bin" folder ???
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#2184 [16:40] <iSwaggy> hey lads, im back
#2185 [16:40] <axehead22> i have 3.00 gb ram
#2186 [16:40] <Morrolan> leaper: Exactly.
#2187 [16:40] <leaper> ok mom
#2188 [16:41] <Morrolan> axehead: Yep, that's the RAM. So this shouldn't be the problem.
#2189 [16:41] <Morrolan> You said that it crashes after a while, right?
#2190 [16:41] <axehead22> so what do i do
#2191 [16:41] <axehead22> well it doesnt responed and screan goes black
#2192 [16:41] <wukkit> When I open the minecraft launcher, the gui is nonexistent. Then, when I log in, i got the bwod, and it crashes a few secs later
#2193 [16:42] <Morrolan> axehead22: Hmm, sorry, you'll have to wait a bit then, until someone else comes back to his PC, can't really help you there.
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#2195 [16:42] <leaper> Morrolan: it doesnt run... ;-(
#2196 [16:42] <Morrolan> Leaper: Uuh.
#2197 [16:42] <axehead22> sooooo.....
#2198 [16:42] <axehead22> i just wait
#2199 [16:42] <leaper> it was this fucking modloader and the planemod
#2200 [16:43] <wukkit> SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! I AM DYING TO PLAY!
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#2202 [16:43] <Morrolan> leaper: That doesn't really make sense though, since if you remove the bin and the resources folder every trace of any mod will be removed.
#2203 [16:43] <Morrolan> wukkit: Hmm?
#2204 [16:43] <Morrolan> leaper: So it has to be something else messing up as well. :/
#2205 [16:43] <iSwaggy> minecraft has started to crash again :(
#2206 [16:44] <leaper> i know i had delet all the folders and the modfolders but it still doesnt runs..
#2207 [16:44] <wukkit> Morrolan, Every time i open he program, the gui is non existent. Then, when I log in, it gives me the bwod and crashes after a few seconds
#2208 [16:44] <Morrolan> wukkit: Reinstalled Minecraft?
#2209 [16:44] <wukkit> Installed? I can only save or run.
#2210 [16:44] <Morrolan> Wukkit: WIndows?
#2211 [16:45] <wukkit> Yup. Xp media center edition
#2212 [16:45] <Morrolan> ??> Wukkit win/reinst
#2213 [16:45] <VoxelHead> Wukkit: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2214 [16:45] <VoxelHead> Wukkit: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2215 [16:45] <wukkit> I tried that
#2216 [16:45] <Morrolan> Ah, ok.
#2217 [16:45] <wukkit> I dont have the minecraft directory
#2218 [16:45] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: The minecraft directory isn't hidden by default, right?
#2219 [16:46] <Morrolan> Wukkit: I guess you already did redownload the launcher from minecraft.net?
#2220 [16:46] <wukkit> Yes
#2221 [16:46] <Morrolan> Ok. It's strange though, that the GUI of it is fucked up. :/
#2222 [16:47] <wukkit> It lists on top what it is supposed to be. I'll list it here. body { font-family: sans-serif; background-color: #222222; background-image: url('http://www.minecraft.net/img/bg.gif'); color: #e0d0d0; } a { color: #aaaaff; } hr { border: 0; color: #111111; background-color: #111111; height: 2px; } h3 { color: #ffffff; font-size: 16px; } img { border:0; margin:0
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#2224 [16:47] <Morrolan> Wukkit: Could it be that some security software is blocking Minecraft?
#2225 [16:47] <wukkit> Does AVG do that?
#2226 [16:47] <Morrolan> Well, don't ask me, suggest you check.
#2227 [16:48] <wukkit> I dont know how to check
#2228 [16:48] <leaper> Morrolan: because it must be .... yes another possibility is there maybe a possibility notch or employees put in by him of knowledge may be able to make something?
#2229 [16:48] <Morrolan> wukkit: Uhm, open the AVG window, and then look for something like "application settings", "firewall" or similar.
#2230 [16:48] <wukkit> ok
#2231 [16:49] <wukkit> could it be called the resident shield?
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#2233 [16:50] <Morrolan> leaper: Well, since some days you can't really send them a mail anymore. :/
#2234 [16:50] <leaper> Morrolan: :( shit
#2235 [16:51] <wukkit> Morrolan, Could it be called resident shield?
#2236 [16:51] <Morrolan> wukkit: Google brought up this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5KtJzaZ67k
#2237 [16:52] <Morrolan> Ugh, I gotta run now, have to catch a train.
#2238 [16:52] <Morrolan> To anyone whose problem isn't solved yet: hang around here a bit, most likely someone who comes back to his PC will be able to help you.
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#2240 [16:53] <Morrolan> Cya, and have a nice evening.
#2241 [16:54] <Burlok> Does anyone know why my game freeses after about a minute. Sometimes I cans till hear the music but the screen is frozen. The only way to get out of it is to shut down the computer.
#2242 [16:54] <rev-lemon> burlok are you playing full screen
#2243 [16:55] <Burlok> no
#2244 [16:55] <rev-lemon> and does taskmanager work / ctrl alt del
#2245 [16:55] <Burlok> no
#2246 [16:55] <rev-lemon> how long has that been happing ?
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#2248 [16:55] <Burlok> i just got the game this morning. i used to have the black screen but i fixed it. now instead of it going black it just freezes
#2249 [16:56] <rev-lemon> ok have you installed or reinstalled java ?
#2250 [16:56] <Burlok> yea
#2251 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> Burlok: does it do the same thing if you try to play in a browser window?
#2252 [16:56] <rev-lemon> ty dopegoti
#2253 [16:56] <Burlok> browser window?
#2254 [16:57] <Burlok> wat do u mean
#2255 [16:57] <rev-lemon> burlok login to minecraft.net < and see if you can run the game in side your browser
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#2258 [17:02] <Burlock> im back. the browser didnt work, my computer froze and i had to shut down
#2259 [17:03] <rev-lemon> dopeghoti ?
#2260 [17:04] <rev-lemon> ok burlok see if you can reinstall java
#2261 [17:04] <rev-lemon> from java.com
#2262 [17:04] <Burlock> k
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#2266 [17:12] <iSwaggy> hello
#2267 [17:12] <Tylermeme12345678> allgamer
#2268 [17:12] <Tylermeme12345678> is
#2269 [17:12] <Tylermeme12345678> nice
#2270 [17:12] <Kealper> yes, yes they are :P
#2271 [17:12] <rev-lemon> burlok after you done that and you try again run it with the task mananger and see if yu can find what is freezing your pc
#2272 [17:13] <iSwaggy> guys I keep running minecraft but its started to just close and give me a notepad file that I do not understand at all.
#2273 [17:13] <Burlok> still didnt work
#2274 [17:13] <rev-lemon> iswaggy can you pastebin it please
#2275 [17:14] <rev-lemon> kealper any surgestions for burlok
#2276 [17:14] <Kealper> uhh.....lemme read up, i haven't been at my computer much since i got home
#2277 [17:14] <rev-lemon> oh i see :)
#2278 [17:14] <iSwaggy> http://mibpaste.com/sRicy8
#2279 [17:14] <Vhozard> I need help
#2280 [17:15] <rev-lemon> unozard that doesnt help, whats your problem
#2281 [17:15] <Kealper> Burlok: did you reinstall your video card drivers? also, has it ever worked before?
#2282 [17:15] <Burlok> hi
#2283 [17:15] <Burlok> k
#2284 [17:16] <Vhozard> I have this problem and I cant figure it out
#2285 [17:16] <Kealper> Vhozard: that isn't giving anyone much to go on....
#2286 [17:16] <rev-lemon> iswaggy open gl, does your graphics card do open gl ? and can you reinstall java for us please
#2287 [17:16] <Vhozard> I keep joining this channel with no specific purpose
#2288 [17:16] <Vhozard> and I end up wondering why Im here
#2289 [17:16] <Vhozard> What to do?
#2290 [17:16] * Kealper slaps Vhozard around a bit with a large trout
#2290 [17:17] <rev-lemon> vhozard what are you trying to do
#2291 [17:17] <iSwaggy> where do i opengl?
#2292 [17:17] <rev-lemon> hahahahha
#2293 [17:17] <rev-lemon> iswaggy its to do with your graphcis card,
#2294 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: that's more of a psychological problem than a Minecraft problem, and is outside our scope of support, sir or ma'am or other.
#2295 [17:17] <Vhozard> :(
#2296 [17:17] <Vhozard> not the trout
#2297 [17:17] <Vhozard> other? is there anything else?
#2298 [17:17] <rev-lemon> iswaggy look up your graphics card and tell us what it is please
#2299 [17:17] <DopeGhoti> In fact.
#2300 [17:18] <Kealper> hmm...
#2301 [17:18] <iSwaggy> rev-lemon, im doin it my laptops just decided to go a bit slowly
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#2303 [17:18] * Kealper slaps AuBot around a bit with an irate sea bass
#2303 [17:19] <Vhozard> !test www.goog.com
#2304 [17:19] <Vhozard> !test www.google.com
#2305 [17:19] <rev-lemon> iswaggy np, laptops also on the other hand might not be best for mc yea
#2306 [17:19] <Kealper> is !test supposed to do something? lol
#2307 [17:19] <Vhozard> yes
#2308 [17:19] <Vhozard> check for open port on 25565 ?
#2309 [17:19] <iSwaggy> I would switch to desktop but its got around 800mb ram and laptop has 1gb
#2310 [17:19] <Kealper> that'd be !check, and no Google does not run a Minecraft server
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#2312 [17:20] <Vhozard> you sure?
#2313 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: that you know of.
#2314 [17:20] <Kealper> touche
#2315 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> True* Fact: Three Google Labs servers run on CPUs implemented with Redstone in Minecraft
#2316 [17:21] <Vhozard> !check goog.gl/3nack
#2317 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> *: By 'true', I mean 'false'.
#2318 [17:21] <Vhozard> !check http://goog.gl/3NACK
#2319 [17:21] <Vhozard> damn
#2320 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> is .le not a CCTLD?
#2321 [17:22] <Kealper> uhh...you know how those url shorteners work, right?
#2322 [17:22] <Burlock> my computer shut down again. i couldnt use the taskmanager because in minecraft your mouse is the cross on the screen. everything frose
#2323 [17:22] <Vhozard> aubot, Y U no url redirect
#2324 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> goog.le would make more sense.
#2325 [17:22] <Kealper> Vhozard: because it's not using HTTP >.>
#2326 [17:22] <iSwaggy> rev-lemon: it says my "display adapter" is mobility radeon 7500 but i cant find opengl
#2327 [17:22] <Vhozard> wait, I mistuped it
#2328 [17:22] <Vhozard> type*
#2329 [17:23] <Vhozard> !check http://goo.gl/3NACK
#2330 [17:23] <rev-lemon> burlock you can alt + tab to change program if your mouse isnt working,
#2331 [17:23] * Vhozard pads AuBot on the back
#2331 [17:23] <Kealper> Vhozard: stop being dumb, that isn't a resolvable domain name
#2332 [17:23] <rev-lemon> burlock does your computer reset everytime it freeses ?
#2333 [17:23] <rev-lemon> i meant with out your permission ?
#2334 [17:23] <Vhozard> I could stop acting dumb
#2335 [17:24] <Vhozard> But being dumb, thats not so easy to stop
#2336 [17:24] <Burlock> wat do u mean reset
#2337 [17:24] <Vhozard> Reset means that it restarts, black screen and boots up again
#2338 [17:24] <rev-lemon> burlock i mean like does your computer reboot everytime minecraft stops ?
#2339 [17:24] <Burlock> o, no it turns completely off
#2340 [17:24] <rev-lemon> burlock what os are you running
#2341 [17:25] <Burlock> im not really sure what OS is but i think its Windows XP
#2342 [17:25] <rev-lemon> ok thats what i was after
#2343 [17:25] <Kealper> Burlock: what color is your start button?
#2344 [17:26] <iSwaggy> OS is operating system so yes windows xp is an answer
#2345 [17:26] <Vhozard> Kealper XDDDD
#2346 [17:26] <Kealper> (that was a serious question ._.)
#2347 [17:26] <Burlock> green
#2348 [17:26] <Vhozard> oh
#2349 [17:26] <Vhozard> LOL
#2350 [17:26] <Kealper> Burlock: windows xp then
#2351 [17:26] <rev-lemon> burlock after you answer that http://pcsupport.about.com/od/tipstricks/ht/disautorestart.htm < can you try that for us
#2352 [17:26] <Vhozard> I cant grasp the fact that people dont know that stuff
#2353 [17:26] <Vhozard> :/
#2354 [17:27] <Kealper> spend a while doing tech support then lol
#2355 [17:27] <Vhozard> I wouldnt last a day
#2356 [17:27] <rev-lemon> vhozard some people just arnt taught that in school, depends on what you study yea
#2357 [17:27] <rev-lemon> haahhaha go kealper
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#2359 [17:27] <Vhozard> lol
#2360 [17:28] <Vhozard> last time i learned ict in school, I helped the teacher out
#2361 [17:28] <Vhozard> -_-
#2362 [17:28] <Kealper> it's just like with cars, most people don't know or care what a radiator is or does, they just know they can turn the key and press a pedal, and away they go; they are happy with that so they don't bother to learn the workings of it
#2363 [17:28] <iSwaggy> cant you fix a leaky radiator with an egg?
#2364 [17:29] <iSwaggy> not a good/long term fix but im sure you can...
#2365 [17:29] <rev-lemon> lol
#2366 [17:29] <Kealper> iSwaggy: yes, although i would not call it a fix
#2367 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> For certain values of 'fix'.
#2368 [17:29] <Kealper> as a short-term "oh crap, time to run to Auto Zone" fix
#2369 [17:29] <Vhozard> Kealper, I guess youre right
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#2371 [17:30] <Vhozard> thats how I would use a car
#2372 [17:30] <Sargonnas> uhh i downloaded a planes mod but i deleted minecraft to get rid of it but everytime i reinstall minecraft so does the mod?
#2373 [17:30] <Kealper> Vhozard: and it's the same with the majority of computer users :P
#2374 [17:30] <Vhozard> Sargonnas, you need to delete your minecraft configuration files
#2375 [17:30] <Sargonnas> uhh what?
#2376 [17:30] <Kealper> Sargonnas: assuming i understood what you meant....
#2377 [17:31] <Vhozard> if youre on windows they are in C;\windows\users\<username>\Appdata\Roaming\minecraft
#2378 [17:31] <Kealper> Sargonnas: when you reinstall Minecraft, all the mods are gone
#2379 [17:31] <Burlock> should i have the automatically restart checked or unchecked
#2380 [17:31] <Vhozard> right?
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#2382 [17:31] <Kealper> Vhozard: %appdata%\.minecraft works better, it is not windows-version specific
#2383 [17:31] <madalynn> hello
#2384 [17:31] <Kealper> madalynn: hi
#2385 [17:31] <Sargonnas> when i reinstalled it it was gone yes. but when it updates my planes mod keeps coming back
#2386 [17:31] <Vhozard> oh, yes
#2387 [17:31] <Vhozard> people still use win xo
#2388 [17:31] <Vhozard> xp
#2389 [17:32] * Vhozard facepalms
#2389 [17:32] <Sargonnas> got win 7 here
#2390 [17:32] <Kealper> Sargonnas: that's....weird....to be honest, i'd recommend asking in the channel #risucraft about that
#2391 [17:32] <Burlock> rev-lemon should i have the automatically restart checked or unchecked
#2392 [17:32] <Sargonnas> k ty
#2393 [17:32] <madalynn> when i try opening my app on my desktop and i logg in it just closes, what do i do
#2394 [17:33] <Vhozard> Kealper: this actually is a pretty good channel. Didnt get banned once
#2395 [17:33] <Kealper> madalynn: did you ever install any texture packs?
#2396 [17:33] <Kealper> Vhozard: ._.
#2397 [17:33] <madalynn> no
#2398 [17:33] <Kealper> madalynn: any mods?
#2399 [17:33] <madalynn> no
#2400 [17:33] <Kealper> hmm...has it ever worked before?
#2401 [17:33] <madalynn> just got the account today
#2402 [17:34] <Vhozard> Do you have java installed ?
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#2404 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> madalynn: Is this on a Mac?
#2405 [17:34] <Tylermeme12345678> hey people
#2406 [17:34] <madalynn> no windaows
#2407 [17:34] <Tylermeme12345678> On my VPS server
#2408 [17:34] <Kealper> Vhozard: the launcher wouldn't run if Java wasn't installed
#2409 [17:34] <Tylermeme12345678> Its saying server already running on a diff port
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#2411 [17:34] <madalynn> windows
#2412 [17:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> Tylermeme12345678 specific
#2413 [17:34] <VoxelHead> Tylermeme12345678: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2414 [17:34] <VoxelHead> Tylermeme12345678: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2415 [17:34] <Kealper> Tylermeme12345678: do you have console access to your VPS? or just a web GUI thing?
#2416 [17:35] <Tylermeme12345678> Its a console
#2417 [17:35] <Tylermeme12345678> ALLGAMER
#2418 [17:35] <tomys> i have a rather dumb problem here
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#2420 [17:35] <Tylermeme12345678> hold on guys
#2421 [17:35] <Tylermeme12345678> im trying to get the error
#2422 [17:35] <Kealper> Tylermeme12345678: type killall java
#2423 [17:35] <shmoo> excuse
#2424 [17:35] <tomys> after i registered my minecraftforum account
#2425 [17:35] <shmoo> meh
#2426 [17:35] <tomys> i made a new email
#2427 [17:35] <Tylermeme12345678> That will fix it?
#2428 [17:35] <shmoo> i need some help
#2429 [17:35] <tomys> and i forgot my old email
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#2431 [17:35] <Tylermeme12345678> Also when i try to connect
#2432 [17:35] <Tylermeme12345678> it just does logging in
#2433 [17:35] <tomys> and then i forgot my password
#2434 [17:36] <Tylermeme12345678> then read out or w/e
#2435 [17:36] <Kealper> Tylermeme12345678: maybe, if it doesn't then we'll need to look in to it more
#2436 [17:36] <tomys> and now i can't log in
#2437 [17:36] <Tylermeme12345678> >16:29:53 [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on
#2438 [17:36] <Tylermeme12345678> >16:29:53 [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#2439 [17:36] <Tylermeme12345678> >16:29:53 [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Address already in use
#2440 [17:36] <Tylermeme12345678> >16:29:53 [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#2441 [17:36] <mib_5zjdvb> from who can i minecraft from the froum downlaod
#2442 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> tomys: Recover the password for your email, and then use the password reset tool on the fora.
#2443 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> ??> Tylermeme12345678 pastebin
#2444 [17:36] <VoxelHead> Tylermeme12345678: (pastebin) Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#2445 [17:36] <VoxelHead> Tylermeme12345678: (pastebin) These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#2446 [17:36] <Kealper> Tylermeme12345678: did you try that command i said?
#2447 [17:36] <madalynn> when i try to open my minecraft on my desktop and after i logg in my app closes on me, what do i do
#2448 [17:37] <Tylermeme12345678> Yes
#2449 [17:37] <Kealper> Tylermeme12345678: did it work?
#2450 [17:37] <Tylermeme12345678> it shows its online let me check
#2451 [17:37] <Tylermeme12345678> Still stuck on logging in
#2452 [17:37] <tomys> dopeghoti: i forgot what was the email i used
#2453 [17:37] <Tylermeme12345678> it just says logging in until redout
#2454 [17:37] <DopeGhoti> tomys: then you need to register a new account.
#2455 [17:37] <tomys> >.<
#2456 [17:37] <Kealper> AG_Scott: rawr
#2457 [17:37] <Tylermeme12345678> Lolwut
#2458 [17:38] <shmoo> i need some help i cant log in for some java reason and yes i downloaded java but their is a error please help i spent 20$!!!!!!!!!!
#2459 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> Tylermeme12345678: please pastebin (bin) the output of `sudo netstat -plnt`
#2460 [17:38] <Tylermeme12345678> Dopeghoti
#2461 [17:38] <Tylermeme12345678> i just posted the error
#2462 [17:38] <DopeGhoti> ??> shmoo specific
#2463 [17:38] <VoxelHead> shmoo: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#2464 [17:38] <VoxelHead> shmoo: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#2465 [17:38] <Tylermeme12345678> >16:29:53 [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 72.9.146.89:25597
#2466 [17:38] <Tylermeme12345678> >16:29:53 [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT!
#2467 [17:38] <Tylermeme12345678> >16:29:53 [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Address already in use
#2468 [17:38] <Tylermeme12345678> >16:29:53 [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#2469 [17:38] <Tylermeme12345678> Thats all it says
#2470 [17:38] <Tylermeme12345678> i got rid of that now its stuck on logging in
#2471 [17:38] <rev-lemon> shmoo < pastebin the error for us please
#2472 [17:38] <Kealper> Tylermeme12345678: you do realize that sends a ton of lines into the chat every time you do that, right?
#2473 [17:39] <Tylermeme12345678> No
#2474 [17:39] <Tylermeme12345678> lol
#2475 [17:39] <Kealper> well, now you do
#2476 [17:39] <Tylermeme12345678> I dont use irc all that much
#2477 [17:39] <shmoo> when is says simulating world for a bit it freezes!!!!!!!!!
#2478 [17:39] <Kealper> shmoo: beta or classic?
#2479 [17:39] <Kealper> wait, stupid question
#2480 [17:39] <shmoo> beta
#2481 [17:39] <Kealper> beta
#2482 [17:40] <Kealper> uhh...i assume it has not worked before?
#2483 [17:40] <tomys> im going to foolishly try and guess my password
#2484 [17:40] <shmoo> it never worked yh
#2485 [17:40] <shmoo> idk y?!!!!!!
#2486 [17:40] <tomys> if i get my password right
#2487 [17:40] <Kealper> shmoo: you said there is an error that it gives?
#2488 [17:40] <tomys> where do i go to set the email up?
#2489 [17:40] <shmoo> yes
#2490 [17:40] <tomys> to my current email?
#2491 [17:41] <AG_Scott> yes?
#2492 [17:41] <Kealper> shmoo: can you copy the full error and put it in to http://pastebin.com and then give us the URL?
#2493 [17:41] <shmoo> kk
#2494 [17:41] <shmoo> 1sec
#2495 [17:41] <Kealper> AG_Scott: Tylermeme12345678 is having trouble with his server being unable to bind the port, he uses AG so he's your issue :P
#2496 [17:41] <Tylermeme12345678> Lol
#2497 [17:42] <AG_Scott> Tylermeme12345678, submit a ticket :P
#2498 [17:42] <Tylermeme12345678> my Server is low ram like really low ram im upgrading to 500mb today
#2499 [17:42] <Tylermeme12345678> But i did
#2500 [17:42] <Tylermeme12345678> Scott ^^
#2501 [17:42] <AG_Scott> Okay then wait on a reply.
#2502 [17:42] <tomys> >.< another 14 minutes of waiting
#2503 [17:42] <Vhozard> ??
#2504 [17:42] <AG_Scott> That isn't my dept.
#2505 [17:42] <Tylermeme12345678> Mmmmmmmmk hey scott
#2506 [17:42] <Vhozard> upgrading TO 500mb
#2507 [17:42] <Tylermeme12345678> im um
#2508 [17:42] <Tylermeme12345678> im adamweb from Van-craft
#2509 [17:42] <Vhozard> I think you meant *from* 500 mb
#2510 [17:42] <Tylermeme12345678> ^^
#2511 [17:42] <Kealper> Vhozard: budget minecraft servers ftw? lol
#2512 [17:43] <Vhozard> LOL
#2513 [17:43] <Tylermeme12345678> Lol
#2514 [17:43] <AG_Scott> They actually work. ;)
#2515 [17:43] <Vhozard> you heard BullDozer has a 32gb memory limit
#2516 [17:43] <AG_Scott> But only because they're on servers with tons of RAM.
#2517 [17:43] <Vhozard> that raises the bar from 16gb to 32gb on normal motherboards
#2518 [17:43] <Kealper> AG_Scott: i still say you should fire up a 128mb budget one and have a bunch of us from #CHANNEL get on it and see just what a 128mb one can do
#2519 [17:44] <AG_Scott> Nag Clinton.
#2520 [17:44] <AG_Scott> I don't touch those.
#2521 [17:44] <Kealper> AG_Clinton:
#2522 [17:44] <Vhozard> boobs?
#2523 [17:44] <AG_Scott> In fact, I don't even know the password to access the server.
#2524 [17:44] <Kealper> well then lol
#2525 [17:44] <shmoo> kealper this is 1 error Your Java configuration is as follows:<br/> <br/>Vendor: <b><a href="http://java.com">Sun Microsystems Inc.</a></b><br/>Version: <b>Java SE 6 Update 25</b><br/>Operating System: <b>Windows XP 5.1</b><br/>Architecture: <b>x86</b> Obj:1.6.0_25 Exit worker loop
#2526 [17:45] <Kealper> O.o
#2527 [17:45] <Tylermeme12345678> 128mb is kinda good
#2528 [17:45] <Tylermeme12345678> its 4people
#2529 [17:45] <Tylermeme12345678> small person server
#2530 [17:46] <AG_Scott> Oh Tylermeme12345678.
#2531 [17:46] <Kealper> yeah i would assume 128mb ones are all you'd need if you just had like yourself and 1-2 friends that you wanted to play with
#2532 [17:46] <Tylermeme12345678> yeah
#2533 [17:46] <AG_Scott> I see your ticket, I'll take care fo it.
#2534 [17:46] <AG_Scott> of*
#2535 [17:46] <Tylermeme12345678> Ohrly now scott
#2536 [17:46] <Tylermeme12345678> Its stuck on logging in
#2537 [17:46] <Tylermeme12345678> when i try to login btw
#2538 [17:46] <AG_Scott> Yes, it was running on an odd port so I assumed it wasn't premium.
#2539 [17:46] <Vhozard> is it actually possible to get a cpu maxed out due to minecraft?
#2540 [17:46] <Tylermeme12345678> Yes im getting 500mb of ram today
#2541 [17:46] <Kealper> Vhozard: quite possible
#2542 [17:46] <Tylermeme12345678> ^^
#2543 [17:47] <Vhozard> with 32gb ram and an 8-core, how many servers would it take?
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#2545 [17:47] <shmoo> kealper is says java plug-in unresponsible
#2546 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> darn irresponsible programs
#2547 [17:47] <Tylermeme12345678> Tell me when i can test logging in AG_Scott
#2548 [17:47] <Kealper> AG_Scott: what sort of hardware is in most of your datacenters for minecraft servers? lol
#2549 [17:48] <AG_Scott> Same as our VPS nodes.
#2550 [17:48] <tomys> dopeghoti
#2551 [17:48] <AG_Scott> Dell PowerEdge T410s, Dual Intel Xeon E5620s, 32GB RAM, and 6x 500GB in RAID10.
#2552 [17:48] <shmoo> kealper read meh message
#2553 [17:48] <tomys> before trying out the passwords i also tried the forgot password thing
#2554 [17:48] <Vhozard> I dont get server processors
#2555 [17:48] <Kealper> shmoo: have you tried reinstalling Java?
#2556 [17:48] <tomys> but forgot i forgot the email
#2557 [17:49] <Vhozard> they are much more expensive and what is the advantage
#2558 [17:49] <tomys> does that mess with the logging in now?
#2559 [17:49] <shmoo> yh just did'
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#2561 [17:49] <AG_Scott> They're actually made for servers?
#2562 [17:49] <Vhozard> RAM ecc?
#2563 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: more cache
#2564 [17:49] <Johanooo> need help with bukkit hosting server
#2565 [17:49] <Johanooo> quick
#2566 [17:49] <Kealper> Vhozard: more cache usually, and they are made to be running literally constantly
#2567 [17:49] <Vhozard> an i7 2600 has enough cache
#2568 [17:49] <AG_Scott> Johanooo, #bukkit
#2569 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> that's the main difference between "consumer" and "server" CPUs.
#2570 [17:49] <Johanooo> imo..
#2571 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> not the _amount_ of cache so much as its _speed_
#2572 [17:49] <Vhozard> no
#2573 [17:49] <Vhozard> not at all
#2574 [17:49] <Vhozard> an i7 is much faster
#2575 [17:49] <Kealper> Vhozard: enough cache for a consumer, but not enough cache to deal with say....minecraft.net's sort of load without being super slow
#2576 [17:50] <Vhozard> LOL
#2577 [17:50] <Vhozard> that trolling would almost be believable
#2578 [17:50] <AG_Scott> Vhozard, compare i7-2600 and E3-1270
#2579 [17:50] <Vhozard> I actually did
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#2581 [17:51] <AG_Scott> Then you know the difference and you know there's not a big price difference.
#2582 [17:51] <Vhozard> oh
#2583 [17:51] <Vhozard> maybe in america
#2584 [17:51] <Vhozard> haha
#2585 [17:51] <AG_Scott> RAM is super expensive for the Dell T110 2. :(
#2586 [17:52] <AG_Scott> $1000/8GB stick
#2587 [17:52] <Kealper> and it's actually worth it to get that sort of ram, too :/
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#2589 [17:52] <Kealper> and wow, a Xeon E5620 is not that expensive
#2590 [17:53] <vapor> dell sucks :)
#2591 [17:53] <Kealper> not for servers :/
#2592 [17:53] <Vhozard> AG_Scott: the E3 is 12% more expensive than the i7 2600k Here
#2593 [17:53] <Vhozard> it has the same amount of cache
#2594 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> again
#2595 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> _amount_ of cache isn't the factor
#2596 [17:53] <Vhozard> lacks turbo, but has eec
#2597 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> it's the _speed_ of the cache
#2598 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> server CPUs have faster L1, L2, and L3 caches
#2599 [17:54] <Kealper> ^
#2600 [17:54] <Vhozard> lolreally
#2601 [17:54] <Vhozard> hmm
#2602 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> yesreally
#2603 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> that's why I have you the same information ten minutes ago
#2604 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> it was still true then also
#2605 [17:54] <Vhozard> you put it those weird colours
#2606 [17:54] <Vhozard> couldnt properly read it
#2607 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> colours?
#2608 [17:54] <NinjaKirby> HURRR
#2609 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> I used no colours.
#2610 [17:54] <Vhozard> my irc does that automatically
#2611 [17:54] <Vhozard> *bold white*
#2612 [17:54] <Vhozard> _green_
#2613 [17:55] <AG_Scott> Installing Fedora 15
#2614 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> "green" is Vhozardese for underscore, eh?
#2615 [17:55] <NinjaKirby> Installing Microsoft Encarta
#2616 [17:55] <Kealper> _doing this underlines things on real irc clients_
#2617 [17:55] <Kealper> well, _this_
#2618 [17:55] <Vhozard> it looks green
#2619 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: the former also if the client is configured properly
#2620 [17:55] <Vhozard> irssi defaults
#2621 [17:55] <Vhozard> lol
#2622 [17:56] <AG_Scott> I thought Encarta was dead?
#2623 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: /set emphasis_multiword = ON
#2624 [17:56] * Kealper does this
#2624 [17:56] <Kealper> _rawr testing_
#2625 [17:57] <Vhozard> no space in there
#2626 [17:57] <Vhozard> _test_
#2627 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: again. your client is doing it wrong.
#2628 [17:58] <Vhozard> no
#2629 [17:59] <Tylermeme12345678> AG_Scott it just keeps saying logging in
#2630 [17:59] <Tylermeme12345678> logging in
#2631 [17:59] <Tylermeme12345678> It says it is on
#2632 [17:59] <AG_Scott> Reply to the ticket please.
#2633 [18:00] <Tylermeme12345678> i havent gotten a response
#2634 [18:00] <AG_Scott> You never replied with what I asked for :P
#2635 [18:00] <Tylermeme12345678> Whats that...?
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#2637 [18:01] <Tylermeme12345678> The console um
#2638 [18:01] <Tylermeme12345678> Log thing
#2639 [18:01] <AG_Scott> I just need the IP and password.
#2640 [18:01] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: I cant anything about that
#2641 [18:01] <AG_Scott> and do not send it on here.
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#2643 [18:02] <Tylermeme12345678> Which password FTP?
#2644 [18:02] <AG_Scott> yep
#2645 [18:02] <Tylermeme12345678> K inc
#2646 [18:02] <Tylermeme12345678> Also do u reccomend any FTP clients
#2647 [18:02] <Kealper> AG_Scott: 192.168.1.129, with the password hunter2 :P
#2648 [18:02] <Tylermeme12345678> im using filezilla now
#2649 [18:03] <Tylermeme12345678> It socks
#2650 [18:03] <Temorse> does anyone know why my whole computer freezes within a minute of joining my world
#2651 [18:03] * Kealper just uses windows explorer, like a boss
#2651 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> Temorse: that can be any number of things
#2652 [18:03] <Temorse> i've tried many things but cant get it to work
#2653 [18:03] <Kealper> (and i was serious about that, you can use windows explorer as an ftp client, it works just like a folder)
#2654 [18:04] <AG_Scott> Kealper, that IP isn't routable on my network.
#2655 [18:04] <Kealper> AG_Scott: oh...uhh...10.16? lol
#2656 [18:04] <AG_Scott> Besides, I couldn't access if it even if it were.
#2657 [18:04] <AG_Scott> My WLAN is isolated.
#2658 [18:04] <Tylermeme12345678> AG_Scott I sent it
#2659 [18:04] <Tylermeme12345678> ^^]
#2660 [18:04] <Tylermeme12345678> do u know the host?
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#2663 [18:05] <Vhozard> Intel data sheets are lol
#2664 [18:05] <AG_Scott> Okay so that's useless.
#2665 [18:05] <Vhozard> The core i7 now supports PCLMULQDQ
#2666 [18:05] <Vhozard> yay
#2667 [18:05] <AG_Scott> You aren't the guy I thought you were lol.
#2668 [18:05] <Graversimen> HI
#2669 [18:05] <AG_Scott> You'll have to wait on Clinton.
#2670 [18:05] <Temorse> what are some of the things that could make it freeze
#2671 [18:05] <AG_Scott> Sorry :(
#2672 [18:05] <Vhozard> sorry I ley you down in bed again, AG_Scott
#2673 [18:05] <Vhozard> let*
#2674 [18:05] <Tylermeme12345678> blah failure :
#2675 [18:06] <Tylermeme12345678> :(
#2676 [18:06] <Graversimen> how do i register an irc ?
#2677 [18:06] <Vhozard> next time ill try to be the man you hoped id be
#2678 [18:06] <Graversimen> an irc channel
#2679 [18:06] <AG_Scott> Graversimen, try #help
#2680 [18:06] <Kealper> ??> Graversimen irc
#2681 [18:06] <VoxelHead> Graversimen: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#2682 [18:06] <VoxelHead> Graversimen: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#2683 [18:06] <Tylermeme12345678> Well anyways AG_Scott thankyou tell eddie i said hi ^^
#2684 [18:06] <Kealper> http://i.imgur.com/nzxHP.jpg lol
#2685 [18:06] <Vhozard> Kealper: NO
#2686 [18:06] <Vhozard> imgur is one step away from 4chan
#2687 [18:07] <Kealper> imgur is an image hosting site not an image board....
#2688 [18:07] <Vhozard> thats what I said
#2689 [18:07] <Kealper> like...tinypic or imageshack >.>
#2690 [18:07] <AG_Scott> or img.4chan.org
#2691 [18:07] <bread> :|
#2692 [18:08] <Kealper> AG_Scott: don't use your science and logic on me! :P
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#2694 [18:08] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: I couldnt find anything to support that
#2695 [18:08] <Vhozard> where did you get that from?
#2696 [18:09] <AG_Scott> b
#2697 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: what, the irssi settings?
#2698 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> I RTFM.
#2699 [18:09] <AG_Scott> oops
#2700 [18:09] <Vhozard> ?
#2701 [18:09] <Vhozard> no
#2702 [18:09] <Vhozard> why l2 and l3 cache should be faster in an E3 than in an i7
#2703 [18:10] * mib_u32x7i [mib_u32x7i@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2704 [18:10] <mib_u32x7i> What is Fatal error (4) null
#2705 [18:11] <Vhozard> thats the fatal error that comes after fatal error (3)
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#2707 [18:11] <Kealper> Vhozard: the faster the CPU's cache, the faster it is able to read and store the data it is currently processing
#2708 [18:11] <mib_u32x7i> No just came up
#2709 [18:12] <Vhozard> Kealper
#2710 [18:12] <Vhozard> great
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#2712 [18:12] <Vhozard> i knew that
#2713 [18:12] <Kealper> OH
#2714 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> I7 are consumer CPUs, ergo their L{1..3} caches are slower.
#2715 [18:12] <Kealper> misread the question
#2716 [18:12] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: thats still not proof
#2717 [18:12] <Vhozard> id like to see some _numbers_
#2718 [18:12] <Vhozard> look, i can use that too ^
#2719 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> when Intel comes out with the Core i7 Pros, they will have faster caches.
#2720 [18:13] <NinjaKirby> I can't believe this discussion about Cache is still going on, exactly the same, I AM going to get the numbers. Christ.
#2721 [18:13] <Kealper> NinjaKirby: wut
#2722 [18:13] <Vhozard> NinjaKirby: thank you
#2723 [18:13] <NinjaKirby> How can you still be talking about CPU Cache speeds after like 15 minutes, lol
#2724 [18:14] <NinjaKirby> I see the exact same lines still XD
#2725 [18:14] <Vhozard> numbers plz
#2726 [18:14] <Kealper> ok but seriously...does anyone know what is up with "Fatal error (4)" on what i would assume to be after logging in on the launcher?
#2727 [18:14] * Blackthorne [Blackthorne@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2728 [18:14] <Kealper> i believe i've heard of it but i don't know what it is
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#2730 [18:15] <Kealper> mib_u32x7i: can you get on minecraft.net from a browser just fine, and what is your computer say for the date today, may 20th, 2011?
#2731 [18:16] <Vhozard> NinjaKirby: still waiting on the numbers
#2732 [18:16] <Kealper> Vhozard: you don't have to be an impatient douche about it
#2733 [18:16] <Vhozard> Yes I do
#2734 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> Core i7 has a 256KiB L2 cache per core
#2735 [18:16] <NinjaKirby> Vhozard, I'm not arguing either way. I'm neither of your "enemy". I'm just trying to stop this argument, lol
#2736 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> E2xxx has 1-2MB per core
#2737 [18:17] * Vhozard attacs Kirby with a beam-attack
#2737 [18:17] <Vhozard> ?
#2738 [18:17] <Vhozard> wat
#2739 [18:17] <NinjaKirby> I'm on Intels site, and compared to what I remember about AMD's website, they aren't as forthcoming about information
#2740 [18:17] <Kealper> Vhozard: just remember, being in this channel is not a right, but a privledge
#2741 [18:17] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: is it really that much more of a difference? lol
#2742 [18:18] * Vhozard demands his privledge
#2742 [18:18] <Vhozard> hmmm
#2743 [18:18] <Vhozard> ?
#2744 [18:18] <NinjaKirby> Y'know, I don't care, it's gonna take a while to find the information
#2745 [18:18] <Vhozard> NinjaKirby: i looked there too lol
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#2747 [18:18] <Vhozard> good luck :D
#2748 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: Yep.
#2749 [18:18] <Kealper> Vhozard: alternatively, you could look yourself, do your own research
#2750 [18:18] <minefan> Good Evening
#2751 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> morning, minefan
#2752 [18:18] <Vhozard> thats what I did
#2753 [18:18] <Vhozard> ...
#2754 [18:18] <Vhozard> plz2read
#2755 [18:18] <minefan> I am looking for information
#2756 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> we are looking for on-topic conversation. Perhaps we can help each other? (:
#2757 [18:19] <minefan> cool :)
#2758 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> how can #minecrafthelp assist you today?
#2759 [18:19] <Vhozard> cross-fapping ?
#2760 [18:19] <minefan> I have bought minecraft, and I have two computers here at home, and is wondering if my son can use my account to play in his computer
#2761 [18:19] * lilomar [lilomar@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2762 [18:19] <minefan> would my ccount be banned?
#2763 [18:19] <Kealper> Vhozard: also, keep it civil, this channel does occasionally have children in it
#2764 [18:19] <Vhozard> oh, ok
#2765 [18:19] <minefan> cool
#2766 [18:19] <Kealper> minefan: that is fine
#2767 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> minefan: one account can be logged in from anywhere, but only from one place at a time.
#2768 [18:19] <Vhozard> I meant cross-flapping :)
#2769 [18:20] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
#2770 [18:20] <minefan> Okey cool, but i have tried to log on, on both computers and its fine....
#2771 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> minefan: if you want to play concurrently with your son, you will need a second account.
#2772 [18:20] <minefan> at least the client alows me
#2773 [18:20] <minefan> ok
#2774 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> (in Multiplayer that is)
#2775 [18:20] <minefan> yeah i mean singleplayer
#2776 [18:20] <minefan> hes just in his world
#2777 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> Strictly speaking, you _should_ have a second account for yourself if you are both playing SP at the same time
#2778 [18:20] <Kealper> minefan: once you buy the game, you are free to do whatever you wanted with it, install it on as many computers as you like, etc
#2779 [18:21] <Kealper> but yeah, showing Mojang some love by throwing cash at them again is always apriciated :P
#2780 [18:21] * mib_2u6gx6 [mib_2u6gx6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2781 [18:21] <Kealper> appriciated*
#2782 [18:22] <minefan> Kealper, yeah I remember reading that :D , so ok, ill take the chance, we are not on servers, just playing in our singleplayers, atm, might get him his own so we can build our own world together
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#2784 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> minefan: happy crafting!
#2785 [18:22] <minefan> thanks!
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#2787 [18:22] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: no the E1270 has the same amount of L2 cache as the i7
#2788 [18:22] <minefan> Love this game
#2789 [18:22] <DopeGhoti> Vhozard: not per core.
#2790 [18:22] <Vhozard> yes, it does
#2791 [18:23] <Vhozard> 256kb per core
#2792 [18:23] <Vhozard> just like the i7
#2793 [18:23] <Kealper> question: does an i* have ECC support?
#2794 [18:23] <Vhozard> no
#2795 [18:23] * Kealper is too lazy to look
#2795 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> Intel Core 2 Exxxx has 1MiB to _12_MiB per core L2 cache
#2796 [18:23] <Vhozard> but I already mention that
#2797 [18:23] <Kealper> then there is your answer
#2798 [18:23] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: thats wrong
#2799 [18:23] <DopeGhoti> (I compared the Exxx earlier, my bad)
#2800 [18:23] <Kealper> server cpus pretty much always have ECC support for ram
#2801 [18:24] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: that's really a motherboard thing
#2802 [18:24] <Vhozard> the E3-1270 has 256kb l2 cache per core
#2803 [18:24] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: also cpu thing, i7 doesnt support eec
#2804 [18:24] <Vhozard> ecc*
#2805 [18:25] <Kealper> and there is also just the fact that the Xeons are made to be running without shutting off for years...i* are not
#2806 [18:25] <mib_uurqrj> are the multiplayer servers shut down for bug fixes or something???
#2807 [18:25] <Kealper> mib_uurqrj: hmm?
#2808 [18:25] <Vhozard> Kealper: sure, but thats just marketing
#2809 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> s/marketing/engineering/#FTFY
#2810 [18:26] <mib_uurqrj> no of my friends can get onto their servers
#2811 [18:26] <Kealper> mib_uurqrj: classic or beta?
#2812 [18:26] <Vhozard> put a decent cooler on an i7 and it will certainly run for a number of years
#2813 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> Server CPUs are engineered with a higher MTBF
#2814 [18:26] <mib_uurqrj> beta
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#2816 [18:26] <kermi> Trying to install; I seem to have downloaded a very small .exe file that tells me this app requires Java Runtime Enviro 1.5.0. I have downloaded the Java file it takes me to when I execute the file it does not load.
#2817 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> mib_uurqrj: what happens when they try?
#2818 [18:26] <Kealper> mib_uurqrj: have their internal or external IPs changed?
#2819 [18:26] <Vhozard> DopeGhoti: even consumer cpu's hardly EVER fail
#2820 [18:27] <Kealper> kermi: what OS are you running?
#2821 [18:27] <mib_uurqrj> it just says that it failed to upload server
#2822 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: also, you want the latest JRE; 1.5 is _very_ old.
#2823 [18:27] <Kealper> >.>
#2824 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> er, that was for kermi
#2825 [18:27] <kermi> My OS is Vista
#2826 [18:27] <Kealper> but i like java 1.4!
#2827 [18:27] <Kealper> kermi: go to http://java.com and make sure you have the latest Java installed
#2828 [18:29] <Johanooo> need help!
#2829 [18:29] <Johanooo> need hepl!
#2830 [18:29] <kermi> I did and it is the same Java file I have - it craps out during install
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#2832 [18:29] <Kealper> ??> Johanooo ask
#2833 [18:29] <Johanooo> look, im hosting a server for a couple of friends
#2834 [18:29] <VoxelHead> Johanooo: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2835 [18:29] <VoxelHead> Johanooo: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2836 [18:29] <Vulcan> Can someone help me on hosting a server
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#2838 [18:30] <xales> Vulcan: What aspect of that do you require assistance with?
#2839 [18:30] <Kealper> Vulcan: we can certainly try, what part are you getting stuck on?
#2840 [18:30] <Kealper> bah
#2841 [18:30] <xales> =3
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#2843 [18:30] <Johanooo> I need help with.. if i have for example 50 iron ingots in my inventory, i stack them in a chest and restart the server
#2844 [18:30] <Johanooo> they are duplicated.. :(
#2845 [18:30] <Johanooo> any idea how to fix it?
#2846 [18:30] <Kealper> that's....weird
#2847 [18:30] <slimer> Umm no clue
#2848 [18:30] <Johanooo> idd
#2849 [18:30] <xales> Are you using any mods?
#2850 [18:30] <Johanooo> bukkit
#2851 [18:31] <smerft> we have the game but this dumb texture pack keeps on crashing it
#2852 [18:31] <xales> smerft: If it's a larger/HD texture pack, you need a mod to use it
#2853 [18:31] <Vulcan> kealper and xalese i have downloaded the MC Server its been loading or doing somthing for ages i know know what to do next
#2854 [18:31] <slimer> I'm extremely annoyed because ever since 2 weeks ago minecraft single-player or multiplayer
#2855 [18:31] <Kealper> Vulcan: just connect to it, if it says it has finished loading
#2856 [18:32] <smerft> what mod??
#2857 [18:32] <Johanooo> HD Texture Fix
#2858 [18:32] <Kealper> smerft: HD texture fix
#2859 [18:32] <Kealper> bah
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#2861 [18:32] <Johanooo> :D
#2862 [18:32] <smerft> thanks
#2863 [18:32] <slimer> When I try to load a world in single, it will build the terrain, but then it'll crash
#2864 [18:32] <Vulcan> Kealper what do you mean how do i connect to it
#2865 [18:32] <slimer> anyone help?
#2866 [18:32] <Kealper> Vulcan: well first..beta or classic?
#2867 [18:32] <Kealper> slimer: what's wrong?
#2868 [18:32] <slimer> Beta
#2869 [18:32] <Johanooo> or nowdays its
#2870 [18:32] <Kealper> oh
#2871 [18:32] <Kealper> sorry
#2872 [18:33] <broom> hello. minecraft.net sent me here. what hardware do i need to run minecraft full
#2873 [18:33] <Vulcan> Kealper beta
#2874 [18:33] <Johanooo> MCPatcher HD Fix
#2875 [18:33] <Johanooo> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-update-51bettergrass-mcpatcher-hd-fix-201/
#2876 [18:33] <Kealper> slimer: got you confused with someone else lol
#2877 [18:33] <slimer> Umm minecraft wont load single or multiplayer
#2878 [18:33] <Kealper> slimer: what happens exactly?
#2879 [18:33] <Kealper> Vulcan: go to the main menu of the game, click Multiplayer, and then enter 127.0.0.1
#2880 [18:33] <xales> broom: If Windows XP, 2GB of RAM, if 7 or Vista, 4GB, any modern GPU or CPU
#2881 [18:34] <broom> id ont know what gpu is
#2882 [18:34] <slimer> When I load a world in single it will build terrain, load for about a minute, then crash.
#2883 [18:34] <Vulcan> Kealper didn't login
#2884 [18:34] <broom> graphic processing unit?
#2885 [18:34] <slimer> in multiplayer the connection will just time out but its been doing that ever since I got the game
#2886 [18:34] <slimer> :P
#2887 [18:34] <Kealper> Vulcan: did you touch the server.properties file?
#2888 [18:35] <slimer> Nope
#2889 [18:35] <Vulcan> Kealper wheres that
#2890 [18:35] <slimer> Not even sure what that is, but
#2891 [18:35] <Kealper> Vulcan: that means no lol...
#2892 [18:35] <slimer> I didnt mess with it
#2893 [18:35] <kermi> Thanks - I give up I am just going to get my $20.00 back and move on
#2894 [18:35] <Kealper> also, i'll say your name if i am directing something at someone
#2895 [18:35] <Vulcan> Kealper yeah
#2896 [18:35] <broom> what sort of settings should i get with 766mb ram and 128mb graphic card ?
#2897 [18:35] <broom> windows 7 64 bit
#2898 [18:36] <slimer> T_T
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#2900 [18:36] <slimer> FORGET IT NO ONE'S LISTENING
#2901 [18:36] <Kealper> wow, way to be patient
#2902 [18:36] <Vulcan> Kealper ok can you help me from the begining
#2903 [18:36] <broom> kealper can you help me please ?
#2904 [18:36] <broom> oh haha
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#2906 [18:37] <broom> your popular guy
#2907 [18:37] <max> help
#2908 [18:37] <Kealper> ugh....it'll take me a sec to answer
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#2910 [18:37] <Toolhead> uhm...hey guys
#2911 [18:37] <Kealper> Vulcan: ok first off, do you have any firewall or antivirus software rulling?
#2912 [18:37] <Kealper> running*
#2913 [18:37] <Kealper> broom: what sort of problem do you have?
#2914 [18:37] <Toolhead> would minecraft run on windows xp?i cant seem to get it to work
#2915 [18:37] <broom> mine is very quick.. what settings should i be able to run minecraft on with 766mb useable ram and a 128mb graphics card on 64-bit windows 7
#2916 [18:37] <Kealper> ??> max ask
#2917 [18:37] <VoxelHead> max: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2918 [18:37] <max> i want to change my skin but it says i need to buy the game and i did
#2919 [18:38] <VoxelHead> max: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2920 [18:38] <Vulcan> Kealper yes
#2921 [18:38] <Kealper> Toolhead: yes it does, what is it saying when you try?
#2922 [18:38] <Toolhead> its on my other computer
#2923 [18:38] <Kealper> Vulcan: add an exception for the server in there
#2924 [18:38] <max> it says your tinkers will fix it
#2925 [18:38] <Toolhead> it says something like a fatal error has occured
#2926 [18:38] <Kealper> Vulcan: Minecraft uses port 25565 on TCP, if your firewall asks
#2927 [18:38] <Vulcan> ok
#2928 [18:38] <max> ya
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#2930 [18:38] <max> ok
#2931 [18:39] <Kealper> max: sounds like minecraft.net is having issues with skin uploads :/
#2932 [18:39] <broom> max are you sure your logged into the paid account an that the payment went through
#2933 [18:39] <Toolhead> IDK IMA JUST PIRATE IT ANYWAY
#2934 [18:39] <Toolhead> NAH JUST JOKES
#2935 [18:39] <max> yes
#2936 [18:39] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
#2937 [18:39] <max> i know
#2938 [18:39] <kermit> my minecraft crashes when i download a texture pack and when i open it it gets a black screen
#2939 [18:39] <broom> can somebody with computer know how please answer mine ?
#2940 [18:39] <broom> what settings should i be able to run minecraft on with 766mb useable ram and a 128mb graphics card on 64-bit windows 7
#2941 [18:40] <Kealper> broom: hmm....it should run fine in the client, although it would be laggy, as it would be using your hard drive for ram
#2942 [18:40] <Kealper> broom: but honestly i would suggest a ram upgrade
#2943 [18:40] <broom> but what settings should i put it on for it to run smooth do you think ?
#2944 [18:40] <SteveG> Brand new to minecraft. Just setup my own server to play SMP with my son. One thing I don't understand is how the Nether works... I get that it isn't available in 1.5 beta SMP, but supposedly it will be in 1.6. But is it simply an additional (deeper) layer of bricks below the main world?
#2945 [18:40] <Kealper> broom: everything on lowest :/
#2946 [18:40] <broom> steve g you need a portal to enter the nether
#2947 [18:40] <Vulcan> Kealper my firewall doesnt ask anything
#2948 [18:40] <broom> minecraftwiki.net/wiki/portal
#2949 [18:40] <broom> thank you kealper
#2950 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> SteveG: it's an whole other dimension basically
#2951 [18:41] <broom> not portal sorry
#2952 [18:41] <Kealper> SteveG: it's actually a seprate dimention that can only be accessed though a portal
#2953 [18:41] <kermit> kealper can u help mwe
#2954 [18:41] <broom> www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/nether
#2955 [18:41] <Kealper> kermit: with? sorry, flooded with people
#2956 [18:41] <broom> ill try to help too jealper
#2957 [18:41] <kermit> k i can wait :D
#2958 [18:41] <broom> kealper
#2959 [18:41] <SteveG> okay thanks.
#2960 [18:41] <NinjaKirby> And you have my axe!
#2961 [18:41] <Kealper> kermit: oh, i see...go in to %appdata%\.minecraft and delete the texturepacks folder
#2962 [18:42] <Kealper> PoorlyTimedNinjaGimly
#2963 [18:42] <Kealper> although...actually that was rather well-timed..
#2964 [18:42] <kermit> i get a black screen or do u mean my downloads
#2965 [18:42] <NinjaKirby> I even had to manipulate the exact quote to fit it, I failed
#2966 [18:42] <Kealper> kermit: no, what version of windows are you running?
#2967 [18:42] <Vulcan> Kealper nothing is asked on my firewall
#2968 [18:43] <Kealper> NinjaKirby: "And my axe!"
#2969 [18:43] <kermit> i dont know:(
#2970 [18:43] <Kealper> kermit: is your start button green or blue?
#2971 [18:43] <kermit> green
#2972 [18:43] <Kealper> kermit: for future reference, you have windows xp
#2973 [18:43] <kermit> ok thanks:)
#2974 [18:43] <Kealper> kermit: press start, go to Run... and type %appdata%\.minecraft
#2975 [18:44] <kermit> on minecraft
#2976 [18:44] <Kealper> kermit: press enter and it will open a folder, look for the texturepacks folder and just delete it
#2977 [18:44] <Kealper> kermit: no, your start button, that start lol
#2978 [18:44] <Kealper> Vulcan: ok now...lol
#2979 [18:44] <Vulcan> Kealper no
#2980 [18:44] <Kealper> Vulcan: try totally disabling your firewall for a sec to see if that is even the problem
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#2982 [18:45] <whidgle> Hey
#2983 [18:45] <whidgle> i need help :(
#2984 [18:45] <whidgle> i installed a texture pack
#2985 [18:45] <Kealper> Vulcan: if it lets you on when it's disabled, then we know it's just your firewall blocking it
#2986 [18:45] <whidgle> now i cant get onto my game
#2987 [18:45] <kermit> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
#2988 [18:45] <NinjaKirby> O_O
#2989 [18:46] <Kealper> whidgle: go to %appdata%\.minecraft and delete the texturepacks folder
#2990 [18:46] <whidgle> i installed a texure pack now i cant get on minecraft and i cant find the texture pack folder
#2991 [18:46] <whidgle> ive tried :(
#2992 [18:46] <kermit> thankssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss:))))))))))))))))))))))
#2993 [18:46] <Kealper> man, that's like atleast 5 people i've helped with that same problem today ._.
#2994 [18:46] <Vulcan> Kealper so i need to run the beta and try the multiplayer ip
#2995 [18:46] <whidgle> thanks
#2996 [18:46] <whidgle> you babes
#2997 [18:46] <whidgle> thanks :D
#2998 [18:46] <Kealper> Vulcan: right, but for testing, try 127.0.0.1
#2999 [18:47] <Kealper> as the multiplayer IP
#3000 [18:48] <Vulcan> i cant get in to that its says refused connected
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#3004 [18:48] <Kealper> Vulcan: and your firewall/antivirus software is disabled right now?
#3005 [18:49] <Vulcan> yes
#3006 [18:49] <Kealper> that's....strange...
#3007 [18:49] <Kealper> Vulcan: open a cmd window and type ping 127.0.0.1
#3008 [18:50] <NinjaKirby> lol, do I exist? I am here?
#3009 [18:50] <NinjaKirby> Failed, *Am I
#3010 [18:50] <Kealper> NinjaKirby: idk, are you?
#3011 [18:50] <NinjaKirby> I know what I mean, and I hope so
#3012 [18:51] <Kealper> man my internet is being really slow right now...
#3013 [18:52] <NinjaKirby> Reminds me of the famous Bash quote, about the guy pinging his laptop. It's somewhere in his room, but can't actually find it.
#3014 [18:52] <Kealper> XD
#3015 [18:52] <Kealper> oh...i guess it's not slow, the websites i was on are just slow
#3016 [18:52] <Kealper> actually, wait, yeah it is being slow
#3017 [18:53] <NinjaKirby> I bet by slow, it's still 4 times faster then my connection at it's best
#3018 [18:53] <Kealper> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1305266064.png
#3019 [18:53] <Vulcan> Kealper it says is ot recognized
#3020 [18:53] <Kealper> my upload is almost as fast as my download >.>
#3021 [18:53] <NinjaKirby> Okay, you are 5 times faster
#3022 [18:53] <Kealper> Vulcan: what, "ping" or it can't find 127.0.0.1?
#3023 [18:53] <NinjaKirby> Is that like SDSL or something?
#3024 [18:53] <Kealper> NinjaKirby: it's normally twice as fast for the download
#3025 [18:53] <Vulcan> Kealper cant find it
#3026 [18:53] <Vulcan> i tyoed it in the cmd
#3027 [18:53] <NinjaKirby> Ah, maybe not then, I see though
#3028 [18:54] <Kealper> Vulcan: that's....
#3029 [18:54] <Kealper> but....
#3030 [18:54] <Vulcan> Kealper thats what
#3031 [18:54] <Kealper> ""ping" is not recognized blah blah" or it can't find 127.0.0.1?
#3032 [18:54] <Kealper> either way, both are bad
#3033 [18:55] <NinjaKirby> Schizophrenic Computer
#3034 [18:55] <Vulcan> Kealper i tipe ping and it works
#3035 [18:55] <Kealper> uhh....try ping google.com
#3036 [18:55] <Vulcan> but when i type 127.0.0.1 it doesnt work
#3037 [18:55] <Kealper> does that ping it fine?
#3038 [18:56] <Kealper> this is...odd...
#3039 [18:56] <xales> Vulcan: Are you typing "ping 127.0.0.1"?
#3040 [18:56] <Vulcan> no
#3041 [18:57] <Kealper> so you are typing "ping 127.0.0.1" without the quotes right?
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#3043 [18:57] <Vulcan> Kealper no i am not i only typed 127.0.0.1
#3044 [18:57] <Kealper> oh, you have to type ping 127.0.0.1
#3045 [18:57] <Vulcan> ok
#3046 [18:58] <Vulcan> ok done what
#3047 [18:58] <Kealper> it did it just fine?
#3048 [18:58] <NinjaKirby> lol
#3049 [18:58] <NinjaKirby> Sorry ^^;;
#3050 [18:58] <Vulcan> Kealper yes
#3051 [18:58] <Kealper> ok then, so 127.0.0.1 isn't broken...
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#3053 [18:59] <Kealper> Vulcan: can you connect to other minecraft servers?
#3054 [18:59] <Vulcan> yes
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#3056 [19:00] <Kealper> and you are sure that any and all firewalls (even Windows Firewall) are not blocking your server?
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#3058 [19:00] <mib_c0t0ri> uh i cant download this game and i already bought this so?
#3059 [19:00] <mib_3rvn0h> when i start minecraft it will just be a white box and not do anything any suggestions on how to fix that i am playin it on a mac by the way
#3060 [19:00] <mib_d9jpb3> could somebody on support for the game please help me
#3061 [19:00] <Vulcan> im sure
#3062 [19:00] <Kealper> mib_c0t0ri: did you visit the download page?
#3063 [19:00] <relsqui> what's with all the mibbit people lately?
#3064 [19:01] <mib_c0t0ri> yes i chose the windows one and it brings me to the downloading manager for msn
#3065 [19:01] <Kealper> relsqui: minecraft.net links to us now
#3066 [19:01] <relsqui> ahh
#3067 [19:01] <relsqui> that'd do it
#3068 [19:01] <Kealper> sadly ._.
#3069 [19:01] <relsqui> yeah
#3070 [19:01] <relsqui> would be nice to, like. also have some official support if they were gonna do that. ;)
#3071 [19:01] <mib_3rvn0h> so anybody wanna help me or what ?
#3072 [19:01] <Kealper> relsqui: i agree :/
#3073 [19:01] <relsqui> (xkcdb.com used to have the server/channel info for #xkcd on it. we learned that was a very bad idea after the first big wave of stumbleupon traffic.)
#3074 [19:02] <Vulcan> Kealper im sure
#3075 [19:02] <mib_3rvn0h> herro ? wouldu rike pork fried rice?
#3076 [19:02] <Kealper> someone halp ._.
#3077 [19:02] <Kealper> too many people
#3078 [19:02] <mib_3rvn0h> this isnt helpful atall
#3079 [19:02] <mib_d9jpb3> I started playing the game but I got a new computer, i've updated everything but then I went to play minecraf, I tried the browser and downloaded version, but, when I play the game, I can't mode, when I try the move keys it just scrolls through my items menu, when I do get to move, it won't let me stop and I only go straight
#3080 [19:02] <mib_d9jpb3> minecraft**
#3081 [19:02] <Kealper> impatient child....
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#3083 [19:03] <mib_d9jpb3> would anyone know what to do about this
#3084 [19:03] <Kealper> if you need help: please hold on, i am swamped right now with people
#3085 [19:03] <mib_c0t0ri> ... also need some help here i havnt even played this game yet
#3086 [19:03] <frogonia> does mine craft work with mac?
#3087 [19:03] <NinjaKirby> Wtf, 3 mibs at once? Whoooa
#3088 [19:03] <Kealper> Vulcan: honestly, i'm not sure then
#3089 [19:03] <Vulcan> noooo ok hmm...
#3090 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> frogonia: yes.
#3091 [19:04] <Vulcan> can you tell me from the begining how to make a server
#3092 [19:04] <Kealper> !client mib_c0t0ri download that
#3093 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> Vulcan smp/serversetup
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#3095 [19:04] <VoxelHead> Vulcan: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#3096 [19:04] <VoxelHead> Vulcan: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#3097 [19:04] <Kealper> mib_d9jpb3: uhh....wait, what is happening? lol
#3098 [19:05] <mib_c0t0ri> uh it did somthing but idk if it downloaded
#3099 [19:05] <relsqui> mib_c0t0ri: in general, are you able to/do you know how to download files from the internet onto your computer?
#3100 [19:05] <mib_c0t0ri> usualy i am but i cant with this file
#3101 [19:05] <mib_d9jpb3> ok
#3102 [19:06] <mib_d9jpb3> can I go now?
#3103 [19:06] <Kealper> mib_d9jpb3: sure lol
#3104 [19:06] <mib_d9jpb3> I started playing the game but I got a new computer, i've updated everything but then I went to play minecraft, I tried the browser and downloaded version, but, when I play the game, I can't mode, when I try the move keys it just scrolls through my items menu, when I do get to move, it won't let me stop and I only go straight
#3105 [19:06] <Vulcan> Kealper ok i know i have java -version but its saying nor reconized
#3106 [19:06] <NinjaKirby> wat XD This channel is freakish tonight
#3107 [19:06] <mib_d9jpb3> I played the game on my old PC just fine but now it's freaky
#3108 [19:06] <NinjaKirby> Vulcan, I think you might need to add it to your Environment Variables, I believe I had that same problem
#3109 [19:07] <Kealper> <rant>ya know, i wouldn't mind Mojang hiring a tech support person for this channel >.></rant>
#3110 [19:07] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby how do i do that
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#3112 [19:07] <mib_d9jpb3> does anyone know what I should do?
#3113 [19:07] <Kealper> woh i just lagged a lot there
#3114 [19:08] <Kealper> just got the last minute of messages all at once
#3115 [19:08] <xales> Kealper: I did too
#3116 [19:08] <xales> ._.
#3117 [19:08] <xales> mib_d9jpb3: Is it a laptop?
#3118 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> Vulcan, you'll want to access it via Right Clicking "My Computer", and going for properties
#3119 [19:08] <mib_d9jpb3> yes
#3120 [19:08] <mib_c0t0ri> sweet i think it might have worked thanks
#3121 [19:08] <xales> Is it a netbook?
#3122 [19:08] <mib_d9jpb3> thinkpad
#3123 [19:09] <mib_d9jpb3> IBM thinkpad
#3124 [19:09] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby ok
#3125 [19:09] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby then what
#3126 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> Sorry Vulcan, are you XP, Vista or 7?
#3127 [19:09] <Vulcan> 7
#3128 [19:09] <xales> mib_d9jpb3: You should call their tech support about it.
#3129 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> Nice, I'm on that as well. On the left panel, click "Advanced System Settings"
#3130 [19:09] <xales> Tell them you are having a problem with the keyboard working or something
#3131 [19:09] <xales> ._.
#3132 [19:09] <mib_d9jpb3> it's not my keyboard
#3133 [19:10] <NinjaKirby> Then the "Advanced" Tab, then Environment variables at the botton, a small button for it
#3134 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> ?? phantominput
#3135 [19:10] <VoxelHead> phantominput: If you installed some utility from Comcast, and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, emancipate it.
#3136 [19:10] <mib_d9jpb3> I've tried other games and it works fine
#3137 [19:10] <mib_d9jpb3> voxelhead was that for me?
#3138 [19:10] <VoxelHead> yes
#3139 [19:11] <mib_d9jpb3> I do have a comcast installed security system, could that be the problem?
#3140 [19:11] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby i clicked Enviroment Variables then what
#3141 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> Yes, it's been known to cause this ussue
#3142 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> er, issue
#3143 [19:11] <xales> And also to be a useless piece of garbage...
#3144 [19:12] <NinjaKirby> Under the bottom panel, System Varibles, there should be a listing called "Path", with several Directories trailing off it
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#3146 [19:12] <mib_d9jpb3> thank you, that may be the problem, and i'll try to see what happens when i changed, again thank you
#3147 [19:12] <NinjaKirby> It'll be selecting "Path", going for Edit, and then adding the directory path for the Java\jre6\bin directory.
#3148 [19:13] <NinjaKirby> If anyone happens to be reading the advice I'm giving, clarification on this would be awesome XD But I had to do this myself, even with a clean install, heh
#3149 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> Be careful when Editing that directory path btw, it can mess things up. So if you think you delete anything, close without saving it
#3150 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> i.e. Cancel button, heh
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#3152 [19:15] <NinjaKirby> Vulcan, my listing for the Java entry is "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin", semi-colon delimited
#3153 [19:15] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby ok well i added the path in
#3154 [19:15] <Vulcan> C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#3155 [19:15] <NinjaKirby> I guess you're 64bit Windows 7?
#3156 [19:16] <Vulcan> yes
#3157 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> And that's the default install directory, so... applying that should allow the CMD prompt window to utilise Java, I believe
#3158 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> Awesome, so... as long as it's semi-colon delimited as well (;), that should do it
#3159 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> Then "java -version" should work fine, then running the Server should presumably be fine as well
#3160 [19:17] <squiggy> how do you get the beta?
#3161 [19:17] <NinjaKirby> Anyone, correct me if I'm wrong.
#3162 [19:17] <xales> squiggy: You buy it and download it from minecraft.net
#3163 [19:17] <NinjaKirby> By relinquishing your hard earned pennies, squiggy
#3164 [19:17] <Vulcan> still not working
#3165 [19:17] <NinjaKirby> java -version isn't working in cmd still?
#3166 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> Vulcan: did you include the quotes?
#3167 [19:18] <NinjaKirby> I wonder if it might require a PC Restart for that to work actually
#3168 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> "C:\[...]\bin"
#3169 [19:18] <xales> NinjaKirby: It doesn't. Just re-opening cmd.exe
#3170 [19:18] <NinjaKirby> Enlightening :)
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#3172 [19:18] <Vulcan> DopeGhoti nope
#3173 [19:18] <xales> Vulcan: Did you re-open the command prompt?
#3174 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> put them in; you need quotes when you have spaces in a directory or file name
#3175 [19:19] <Vulcan> yep
#3176 [19:19] <NinjaKirby> Ah? I copypasta'd my entire PATH entry, no quotes, but aight :P
#3177 [19:20] <NinjaKirby> Look at my entire dog.
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#3180 [19:20] <NinjaKirby> I dunno how you guys do this everyday, croikey.
#3181 [19:20] <Vulcan> i put this right at the end C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin
#3182 [19:21] <squiggy> what do you open it as
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#3184 [19:21] <NinjaKirby> With a semi-colon prefixing the entire path?
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#3186 [19:21] <Vulcan> what you mean
#3187 [19:22] <mib_br9fni> hi all. do you know if the game works with windows7?
#3188 [19:22] <nayrb> how come minecraft closes after i login?
#3189 [19:22] <xales> mib_br9fni: Yes, of course.
#3190 [19:22] <squiggy> what program do you open it with
#3191 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> ;C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin <- The initial character, to seperate it from the other Path entries
#3192 [19:22] <xales> nayrb: Why does it? Does it give you an error?
#3193 [19:22] <xales> squiggy: You downloaded the wrong file
#3194 [19:22] <xales> ??> squiggy win/client
#3195 [19:22] <VoxelHead> squiggy: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
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#3211 [19:22] <nayrb> yeah but it closes to fast for me to see it
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#3218 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> Erm, that's slightly different
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#3220 [19:23] <mib_br9fni> i downloaded the wrong file?
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#3222 [19:23] <xales> nayrb: Are you playing in the browser, or with the standalone launcher?
#3223 [19:23] <nayrb> standalone
#3224 [19:23] <xales> Try in the browser.
#3225 [19:23] <Kealper> oh crap
#3226 [19:23] <nayrb> and i tried the browser too
#3227 [19:23] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby nope thats not at the end ill put it in
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#3231 [19:23] <nayrb> same thing happens
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#3233 [19:23] <xales> nayrb: Has it worked before?
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#3235 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> At the end? You mean at the start ^^;;
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#3279 [19:24] <NinjaKirby> We now have to help all these 170 new joined people. Kealper, enjoy.
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#3282 [19:24] <squiggy> i cant do it
#3283 [19:24] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby at the end but this ;
#3284 [19:24] <xales> squiggy: Can't do...what?
#3285 [19:24] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
#3286 [19:24] <mib_br9fni> I'm getting an error that sames "failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode" when starting the game. can anyone help?
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#3288 [19:24] <nayrb> its worked before
#3289 [19:24] <xales> mib_br9fni: Update your graphics card driver
#3290 [19:25] <xales> mib_br9fni: Update your graphics card driver
#3291 [19:25] <NinjaKirby> lol @ at this activity
#3292 [19:25] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby at the end but this ;
#3293 [19:25] <mib_br9fni> xales: I did that and it said that I have the latest updates.
#3294 [19:25] <squiggy> i cant get the beta to work
#3295 [19:25] <xales> ??> mib_br9fni win/dxdiag
#3296 [19:25] <VoxelHead> mib_br9fni: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3297 [19:25] <VoxelHead> mib_br9fni: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3298 [19:25] <xales> squiggy: What does it say?
#3299 [19:25] <NinjaKirby> Aye, the semi-colons seperate the paths that are in the list. By default, there isn't one located at the very end
#3300 [19:25] <mib_br9fni> xales: thanks I'll try that and let you know.
#3301 [19:26] <Vulcan> ok well there wasn't any semi-colons in there
#3302 [19:26] <xales> mib_br9fni: That is just instructions for what you need to do so we can tell you how to fix the problem
#3303 [19:26] <squiggy> i cant get the betaa to work
#3304 [19:26] <NinjaKirby> Mind meltdown
#3305 [19:26] <xales> squiggy: Yes, I heard you the first time.
#3306 [19:26] <xales> What does it say?
#3307 [19:27] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby can you give me an example becasue im confused
#3308 [19:27] <NinjaKirby> Vulcan, yeah, I will :) Probably be easier
#3309 [19:27] <squiggy> user not premium
#3310 [19:27] <xales> squiggy: You have to buy it. It is not free.
#3311 [19:27] <NinjaKirby> Although example only, to copy the example and paste it in is *not* wise
#3312 [19:28] <squiggy> for FUCK sake
#3313 [19:28] <Vulcan> why is it not wise
#3314 [19:28] <Vulcan> you can make it up
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#3316 [19:29] <nayrb> well its not working in the browser for me or the standalone launcher
#3317 [19:29] <xales> ??> nayrb win/reinst
#3318 [19:29] <VoxelHead> nayrb: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3319 [19:29] <NinjaKirby> Because my directory paths/installed applications could be different to yours, and to introduce foreign/non-existant paths isn't the best thing, I imagine
#3320 [19:29] <VoxelHead> nayrb: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3321 [19:29] <Kealper> nayrb: have you ever played Silkroad Online before?
#3322 [19:29] <Kealper> your name looks familiar....
#3323 [19:29] <juba> I CAN NOT RUN MINECRAFT
#3324 [19:29] <nayrb> nope
#3325 [19:29] <xales> Well, we can help with that if you tell us the problem and chill out.
#3326 [19:30] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby yeah i wont copy and past it i want to see where the semi-colons go
#3327 [19:30] <Vulcan> *past
#3328 [19:30] <Vulcan> ee
#3329 [19:30] <juba> right after i log in it closes
#3330 [19:30] <xales> ??> juba win/reinst
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#3332 [19:30] <VoxelHead> juba: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3333 [19:30] <VoxelHead> juba: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3334 [19:30] <juba> i did
#3335 [19:30] <juba> it didnt work
#3336 [19:30] <Kealper> juba: do it again, but delete the texturepacks folder this time, too
#3337 [19:30] <Kealper> ??< index
#3338 [19:31] <juba> how do i delete texturepacks
#3339 [19:31] <NinjaKirby> Vulcan: http://pastebin.com/BepmFCUC
#3340 [19:31] <xales> juba: Follow the instructions VoxelHead gave you, but also delete the folder 'texturepacks'
#3341 [19:31] <juba> where do i find the folder
#3342 [19:32] <xales> As I _just said_
#3343 [19:32] <xales> Follow the instructions that VoxelHead gave you
#3344 [19:32] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby ok thanks i dont that the semi colons at the end or all address
#3345 [19:33] <NinjaKirby> Erm, okie ^^
#3346 [19:33] <juba> tanks
#3347 [19:33] <NinjaKirby> I mean, hopefully that'll solve the problem. I had the same problem, it's all I had to do to fix things.
#3348 [19:33] <mib_br9fni> xales: here is the link (I think is what you want??) http://pastebin.com/Am8R82es
#3349 [19:34] <xales> mib_br9fni: Yes, that's it
#3350 [19:34] <nayrb> thanks! it works now
#3351 [19:34] <xales> Your graphics card doesn't support Windows 7, so accelerated video (what games use) won't work right...you can try to install the older driver
#3352 [19:34] <xales> but it might not work
#3353 [19:35] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby yay it worked
#3354 [19:35] <xales> mib_br9fni: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#3355 [19:35] <NinjaKirby> Really!? Somehow, I'm still kinda surprised XD But that's great! ^^
#3356 [19:35] <mib_br9fni> thats freakin awesome.. I had a local computer "expert" install windows 7. you'd think he would have mentioned that to me.. any suggestions?
#3357 [19:35] <xales> mib_br9fni: You can try downloading what I just linked, see if that works...
#3358 [19:36] <xales> otherwise, you'd want to get a new graphics card (depending on the age of the computer, it might just be cheaper to buy a new computer |:)
#3359 [19:37] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby thanks now im running the MC server its loading or somthing and its got somthing like at kb.b(SourceFile:37) or 29
#3360 [19:37] <NinjaKirby> Xales, is it only DX9 or something?
#3361 [19:38] <xales> Vulcan: Copy the entire error to http://pastebin.com/
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#3363 [19:38] <xales> NinjaKirby: Note: AMD’s DirectX 9 ATI Radeon graphics accelerators are not officially supported under Windows 7. If the user chooses to, they can install the ATI Catalyst Windows Vista graphics driver under Windows 7. Please be aware that none of the new Windows 7 graphics driver (WDDM 1.1) features are supported (as the Windows Vista level graphics driver is limited to WDDM 1.0 level support). Using the ATI Catalyst Windows Vista driver under Windows
#3364 [19:38] <NinjaKirby> WHOA
#3365 [19:38] <NinjaKirby> So it's one of those bizarre unsupported Hardware problems
#3366 [19:39] <xales> More like "this thing is older than the Earth itself and we have no need to support it"
#3367 [19:39] <NinjaKirby> Hehe, gotcha :P
#3368 [19:39] <Kealper> lol
#3369 [19:39] <Vulcan> thres no error it keeps on blinking [INFO] Gerneration new properties file
#3370 [19:39] <Vulcan> xales ^^
#3371 [19:39] <xales> Vulcan: Make a new folder on your desktop
#3372 [19:39] <xales> and put the server there
#3373 [19:39] <Vulcan> ok
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#3375 [19:40] <NinjaKirby> Permissions issue?
#3376 [19:40] <xales> Probably
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#3378 [19:40] <gretchen> hey
#3379 [19:40] <NinjaKirby> Most times I use CMD I end up requiring Admin privilages ~_~
#3380 [19:41] <NinjaKirby> Greetings gretchen
#3381 [19:41] <Confused> I need help with my purchase.
#3382 [19:41] <xales> Confused: We aren't affiliated with Mojang in any way; we can't help with purchase issues. See http://minecraft.net/support/
#3383 [19:42] <gretchen> whenever i play mincraft, 3 min later the screen goes white and i cant do anything (by the way i use the Java version)
#3384 [19:42] <NinjaKirby> Does Minecraft.exe end up Not Responding and crashing?
#3385 [19:42] <xales> gretchen: Are you playing Beta or Classic?
#3386 [19:42] <gretchen> yes
#3387 [19:42] <gretchen> beta
#3388 [19:42] <gretchen> i also bought it
#3389 [19:43] * NinjaKirby Grins
#3389 [19:43] <gretchen> if that changes anything
#3390 [19:43] <xales> Are you using the download version or the in-browser version?
#3391 [19:43] <gretchen> download
#3392 [19:43] <Vulcan> xales ahh ok thats better this came up and stopped http://pastebin.com/ih6UC2we what do i do next
#3393 [19:43] <xales> ??> gretchen win/reinst
#3394 [19:43] <VoxelHead> gretchen: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3395 [19:43] <VoxelHead> gretchen: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3396 [19:43] <xales> Vulcan: That means it worked
#3397 [19:43] <Vulcan> ok
#3398 [19:43] <Vulcan> but still what do i do next
#3399 [19:43] <NinjaKirby> Yey Vulcan! The Warnings fixed itself straight away, like Xales said
#3400 [19:43] <xales> Vulcan: Connect to it?
#3401 [19:44] <Vulcan> how
#3402 [19:44] <xales> Open Minecraft, click Multiplayer, in the box, type 127.0.0.1
#3403 [19:44] <gretchen> ive reinstalled it a ton of times and it still doesnt work, ive tried the windows type because i use windows vista and it still crashes
#3404 [19:45] <xales> ??> gretchen win/dxdiag
#3405 [19:45] <VoxelHead> gretchen: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3406 [19:45] <VoxelHead> gretchen: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3407 [19:45] <Vulcan> xales yay it works
#3408 [19:45] <NinjaKirby> Vulcan: Open the "Server.properties" in notepad to configure, it's fairly self-explantory
#3409 [19:45] <NinjaKirby> Or leave it default, if you're content
#3410 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/server-ip
#3411 [19:46] <VoxelHead> smp/server-ip: Do not enter anything on the server-ip= line of the server.properties file. In nearly ALL cases, you want to leave it blank.
#3412 [19:46] <NinjaKirby> And that, I did ponder about that option myself
#3413 [19:46] <Vulcan> NinjaKirby ok left it defult how do i get my friends to connect
#3414 [19:47] <mib_br9fni> xales: I installed that old display driver but it still doesnt work...
#3415 [19:47] <xales> mib_br9fni: Not really much you can do, then
#3416 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> time to get a new video card, then
#3417 [19:47] <NinjaKirby> Vulcan: They'll need to know your IP address, the number identidying your computer on the Internet
#3418 [19:47] <xales> ^
#3419 [19:47] <mib_br9fni> thanks for the help anyway!
#3420 [19:48] <NinjaKirby> Vulcan: Google something like "My IP", and go to the website, it should give you an address like "94.1.124.47", something random like that
#3421 [19:48] <Kealper> wait!
#3422 [19:48] <Kealper> type !myip
#3423 [19:48] <Kealper> in here
#3424 [19:48] <Vulcan> how do i find me identidying
#3425 [19:48] <NinjaKirby> Vulcan: That's what you'll want... or that, you own Kealper
#3426 [19:48] <Kealper> AuBot knows everything :o
#3427 [19:48] <NinjaKirby> !myip
#3428 [19:48] <NinjaKirby> Wow, lol
#3429 [19:48] <NinjaKirby> Vulcan, don't use that IP XD
#3430 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> ?? ip/external
#3431 [19:49] <VoxelHead> ip/external: Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#3432 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> I prefer the second of those, for ridiculousness' sake
#3433 [19:49] <NinjaKirby> lol, plural ridiculousness
#3434 [19:49] <Vulcan> so if it type my ip in the multiplayer will it work
#3435 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: not plural, posessive.
#3436 [19:50] <xales> Vulcan: If you are behind a router, you must port forward first.
#3437 [19:50] <NinjaKirby> DopeGhoti: Argh!
#3438 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> (:
#3439 [19:50] <Vulcan> oh thats bad cos i cant dont know the password
#3440 [19:50] <NinjaKirby> I forgot all about that Xales, I'll go... lol
#3441 [19:50] <xales> Vulcan: Do you own the router?
#3442 [19:51] <Vulcan> no
#3443 [19:51] <Vulcan> i mean yes put lost the pass
#3444 [19:51] <Vulcan> word
#3445 [19:51] <xales> Neighbor's wifi?
#3446 [19:51] <xales> If it's your router, just reset the router and the password will be reset
#3447 [19:51] <NinjaKirby> Factory Defaults, time to find a Paperclip
#3448 [19:51] <Kealper> my neighbor's wifi is horribad :<
#3449 [19:52] <xales> Kealper: Wait..were you on neighborwifi before? :o
#3450 [19:52] <Kealper> xales: yeah, like all of last weekend though tuesday lol
#3451 [19:52] <Vulcan> yeah it doesnt work so i will have to call hosts
#3452 [19:52] <Kealper> when my internet was out....stupid crap was like dialup, except more intermittent
#3453 [19:53] <Graversimen> !say test :P
#3454 [19:53] <Graversimen> aww :P
#3455 [19:53] * NinjaKirby raises an eyebrow
#3455 [19:53] <xales> Kealper: I mean, why did it go out in the first place? :o
#3456 [19:54] <Kealper> Comcast decided they didn't want to continue giving me free internet without their consent
#3457 [19:54] <xales> "Free Internet?" :o
#3458 [19:54] <Kealper> you didn't know? lol
#3459 [19:54] <xales> nope
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#3461 [19:55] <gretchen> if i post my dxdiag stuff on pastebin will that mean my computer info will be posted on the website?
#3462 [19:56] <xales> gretchen: None of that information needs to be secret; there is no personal or identifyable information there
#3463 [19:56] <Kealper> gretchen: nothing in it is personally identifiable
#3464 [19:56] <NinjaKirby> Nice to see someone asking that though
#3465 [19:56] <gretchen> k thankyou
#3466 [19:56] <mib_6e6b9d> alright. when i enter my gift code it tells me woah theres something wrong. try again in a little while. what has happened?
#3467 [19:56] <xales> mib_6e6b9d: Then...try again later, I guess?
#3468 [19:56] <Vulcan> hmm oh well i will have to wait until i call the people
#3469 [19:57] <NinjaKirby> Vulcan, at least it's prepared and ready :D Could build something ahead of time to greet them, hehe
#3470 [19:57] <Kealper> ^
#3471 [19:57] <Kealper> think of it as an opportunity to prepare your server lol
#3472 [19:58] <Vulcan> yeah thanks ever so muck but that does this mean http://pastebin.com/MJx4yYwM
#3473 [19:58] <Kealper> maybe build a small greeting hut by the spawn point that has the server rules on a bunch of signs or something lol
#3474 [19:58] <xales> Vulcan: Did you try to open the server twice?
#3475 [19:58] <Vulcan> dont think so
#3476 [19:58] <NinjaKirby> Oh god, and if you ever close the server, don't just hit the Windows Cross button T_T
#3477 [19:59] <gretchen> Now what do i do once i posted the stuff on pastebin?
#3478 [19:59] <xales> Vulcan: Did you change anything in the properties file?
#3479 [19:59] <xales> gretchen: You have to give us the link to it
#3480 [19:59] <Vulcan> no
#3481 [19:59] <gretchen> ok
#3482 [19:59] <gretchen> http://pastebin.com/vpwZUe5E
#3483 [20:00] <NinjaKirby> WHOA, I'm not kidding... both my monitors went black for half a second, then returned... I think Nvidia failed somehow and recovered, lol
#3484 [20:00] <Kealper> NinjaKirby: what were you doing at the time?
#3485 [20:00] <Kealper> also, are you using windows vista/7?
#3486 [20:00] <NinjaKirby> It's not even gaming related, so... maybe I shouldn't be questioned XD
#3487 [20:00] <Vulcan> quick question any one know hamachi?? if so would it work with mine craft
#3488 [20:01] <xales> ??> Vulcan fubar/hamachi
#3489 [20:01] <VoxelHead> Vulcan: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#3490 [20:01] <VoxelHead> Vulcan: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#3491 [20:01] <Kealper> if yes, that is fairly normal if you are starting or stopping a directx or opengl game
#3492 [20:02] <xales> gretchen: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-270.61-whql-driver.html
#3493 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> Holy crap, it just happened again, MSN is screwing up, I think I need to restart ASAP
#3494 [20:02] <Vulcan> no i know it works for other gamesjus want to know if it would work with MC if so what do i need to do
#3495 [20:02] <Kealper> ugh.....i wish GDI+ could have an option to change the opacity of an image for GraphicsDrawImageRect calls ._.
#3496 [20:03] <xales> Vulcan: As the message said, we can't help with that
#3497 [20:03] <xales> Vulcan: It will work, but you are on your own.
#3498 [20:03] <xales> Keep in mind other people who want to connect must also be using Hamachi
#3499 [20:03] <Vulcan> ah ok
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#3502 [20:04] <Kealper> GDI+ reallyt leaves much to be desired....microsoft...y u no make better way of drawing squigglies on windows
#3503 [20:05] <xales> Kealper: use pygame
#3504 [20:05] <xales> :>
#3505 [20:05] <xales> it uses SDL
#3506 [20:05] <Kealper> yeah but that is like, full-on OpenGL
#3507 [20:05] <xales> no
#3508 [20:05] <xales> that's pyopengl
#3509 [20:05] <xales> pygame is just SDL
#3510 [20:05] <Kealper> i think i've got some wiki'ing to do, brb
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#3512 [20:06] <Kealper> weird, it's actually its own thing, not just some OpenGL or DirectX wrappers
#3513 [20:06] <Kealper> TIL
#3514 [20:06] <gretchen> now what after i downloaded http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-270.61-whql-driver.html
#3515 [20:07] <xales> gretchen: Install it and reboot
#3516 [20:07] <gretchen> reboot my computer?
#3517 [20:07] <xales> Yes.
#3518 [20:07] <gretchen> k
#3519 [20:07] <DreadPirateBob> hey does anyone know anything about a random crash in minecraft? i can't get a consistent repro; it seems to happen at random times during gameplay. there's no bwod; it just quits.
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#3521 [20:08] <xales> DreadPirateBob: It's a known issue, not much you can do about it. It may be fixed in the coming update, sometime next week (supposedly)
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#3523 [20:08] <DreadPirateBob> k. well... thx for the info.
#3524 [20:09] <mr_boo> hi
#3525 [20:09] <xales> Hello.
#3526 [20:09] <CharlieB> How can I fix not being able to use any of the controls?
#3527 [20:10] <xales> CharlieB: What do you mean?
#3528 [20:10] <CharlieB> I can only look and jump when I start playing
#3529 [20:10] <xales> What OS?
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#3531 [20:10] <CharlieB> I might sometimes get stuck moving in one direction
#3532 [20:10] <CharlieB> XP
#3533 [20:10] <xales> Ah.
#3534 [20:10] <xales> ??> CharlieB phantominput
#3535 [20:10] <VoxelHead> CharlieB: (phantominput) If you installed some utility from Comcast, and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, emancipate it.
#3536 [20:11] <CharlieB> So...
#3537 [20:11] <xales> Uninstall any garbage software that Comcast may have given you.
#3538 [20:11] <CharlieB> It may have been the security system
#3539 [20:12] <xales> That's what it is
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#3541 [20:12] <xales> The "security" thing is garbage
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#3543 [20:12] <CharlieB> That may leave the computer without antivirus
#3544 [20:13] <CharlieB> We usually use what comcast is providing
#3545 [20:13] <CharlieB> And I don't think Norton works anymore
#3546 [20:13] <gretchen> my internet is getting messed up from NVIDIA Installer, is that normal while it is downloading?
#3547 [20:13] <Starkrun> is this tech help or gameplay help?
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#3549 [20:13] <xales> gretchen: If your connection is slow, yes.
#3550 [20:13] <gretchen> ok
#3551 [20:14] <xales> Or rather, computer.
#3552 [20:14] <gretchen> it is slow
#3553 [20:14] <xales> CharlieB: The shit from Comcast isn't real antivirus software (excuse my language)
#3554 [20:14] <Graversimen> AuBot
#3555 [20:14] <wales909> I've played alone long enough and now I want to join a multiplayer game. How do I find a server
#3556 [20:14] <Graversimen> i have a server :D
#3557 [20:14] <xales> If you want, there are plenty of good (completely free) antivirus programs such as Avira AntiVir
#3558 [20:14] <xales> ??> wales909 smp/servers
#3559 [20:14] <VoxelHead> wales909: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3560 [20:14] <Starkrun> comodo has great free antivirus solutions without constant nags, its a install and forget client
#3561 [20:14] <VoxelHead> wales909: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3562 [20:15] <gretchen> now that the download is complete can i restart my computer and the Minecraft.jar will work?
#3563 [20:15] <Starkrun> avira is also very good
#3564 [20:15] <CharlieB> I'll remove it and see what happens then...
#3565 [20:15] <xales> gretchen: Did you install it? Also, use Minecraft.exe not .jar
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#3568 [20:16] <mib_erlpzp> Hello
#3569 [20:16] <wales909> any tips on how to pick a server without griefers etc?
#3570 [20:16] <Starkrun> ok minecraft help, total newbie question.. playing solo world im worred about mining all the wood there is.. is there regeneration or a set limit? or does the game generate as you move around the world? i would like to have fun and build like crazy
#3571 [20:16] <twow443> i need some help
#3572 [20:16] <xales> twow443: With?
#3573 [20:16] <mib_erlpzp> In eed help with minecraft, can anyone help me?
#3574 [20:16] <xales> Starkrun: You can re-plant trees, but you can always just keep going and finding new forests
#3575 [20:16] <xales> mib_erlpzp: What is the problem?
#3576 [20:17] <twow443> i tried 2 run mincraft in the web browser but it wouldnt regonize the publiser and load
#3577 [20:17] <wales909> stakrun - when you cut down a tree, take out the foliage as well. then little trees will fall out and you can pick them and plant where you want them!
#3578 [20:17] <xales> twow443: Re-install Java
#3579 [20:17] <mib_erlpzp> I just recently bought the game like 2 hours ago, and it said everything has been transacted, etc. but I can't get online, and when I download minecraft from the site, and try to log in, it just says that I haven't downloaded the game
#3580 [20:17] <Starkrun> thank you wales...
#3581 [20:17] <xales> mib_erlpzp: Try playing at http://minecraft.net/game/
#3582 [20:18] <wales909> how do i find yr server Graversimen?
#3583 [20:18] <mib_erlpzp> It says to update my java, but I already have
#3584 [20:18] <xales> mib_erlpzp: What, exactly, does it say?
#3585 [20:18] <twow443> i bought it 5 min ago and windows keeps blocking it!!!
#3586 [20:18] <wales909> noworries
#3587 [20:18] <mib_erlpzp> Like, on minecraft.net/game?
#3588 [20:18] <twow443> what can i do?!
#3589 [20:18] <xales> twow443: Re-install Java.
#3590 [20:18] <xales> mib_erlpzp: Yes.
#3591 [20:19] <twow443> how do i do that
#3592 [20:19] <Kealper> twow443: do you have any antivirus software, by chance?
#3593 [20:19] <xales> twow443: Uninstall Java, then install it again.
#3594 [20:19] <Starkrun> ok next question then is about gameplay difficulty.. does the difficultly setting you pick effect the length of daylight? EG shorter days for hard longer days for easy?
#3595 [20:19] <twow443> windows security essentils
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#3597 [20:19] <mib_erlpzp> It says I need to update my java, and it has that puzzle piece in the middle of where the game should be
#3598 [20:19] <Starkrun> windwos security essentials is decent and runs well
#3599 [20:19] <Kealper> twow443: is that what comes up when you try to play it?
#3600 [20:19] <xales> mib_erlpzp: Try a different browser
#3601 [20:19] <twow443> no
#3602 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> Starkrun: No, Day is 10m and Night is 8m on all difficulties
#3603 [20:19] <Kealper> twow443: also, are you trying to play beta or classic?
#3604 [20:19] <mib_erlpzp> ok, I will try that
#3605 [20:19] <Starkrun> there are alot of redirect viruses that use it though
#3606 [20:19] <twow443> beta
#3607 [20:19] <xales> Starkrun: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Difficulty
#3608 [20:20] <Kealper> twow443: did you want to try the downloaded client instead?
#3609 [20:20] <Starkrun> thanks for the link
#3610 [20:20] <twow443> yes but will i be able 2 download maps
#3611 [20:20] <Kealper> !client
#3612 [20:20] <Kealper> twow443: yes, it works the same as the browser one
#3613 [20:20] <Kealper> twow443: uses all your normal saves and everything
#3614 [20:20] <mib_2timmo> It wont let me on the server while running a mac.Operation Timed out. Help please
#3615 [20:21] <twow443> i havent been able 2 play it yet
#3616 [20:21] <Kealper> twow443: oh, lol, then i guess you wouldn't have any saves yet :P
#3617 [20:21] <xales> mib_2timmo: What IP are you trying to connect to?
#3618 [20:21] <twow443> i have windows how do i download this
#3619 [20:21] <Kealper> twow443: anyways, download the client that AuBot linked, save it anywhere you want, and then run it
#3620 [20:21] <mib_2timmo> does it matter
#3621 [20:21] <xales> mib_2timmo: Yes, it does.
#3622 [20:21] <twow443> thank you
#3623 [20:22] <twow443> i will come back if it doesnt work
#3624 [20:22] <mib_2timmo> ok its 174.52.131.162
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#3626 [20:22] <mib_erlpzp> When I try to log in on a different browser, it takes me back to the homepage without logging me in
#3627 [20:22] <xales> mib_2timmo: Did you port forward?
#3628 [20:22] <mib_2timmo> what does that mean
#3629 [20:23] <xales> mib_2timmo: Try connecting to 127.0.0.1
#3630 [20:23] <mib_2timmo> ok hold on
#3631 [20:23] <xales> mib_erlpzp: Try completely uninstalling Java, then restarting your computer, and installing it again
#3632 [20:23] <mib_erlpzp> Ugh, I hate doing that in case I screw up :P
#3633 [20:23] <mib_erlpzp> Alright, I'll try that
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#3635 [20:23] <mib_2timmo> That did not work
#3636 [20:24] <xales> mib_2timmo: Are you running the server?
#3637 [20:24] <mib_2timmo> No, im trying to join my friends server
#3638 [20:24] <xales> Then they have not set it up properly
#3639 [20:25] <mib_2timmo> what if all my other friends are playing and im the only one who cant
#3640 [20:25] <Kealper> i'll be back in a few min, i need to do some intensely confusing reading on something lol
#3641 [20:26] <xales> mib_2timmo: Try another server?
#3642 [20:26] <mib_2timmo> ok hold on
#3643 [20:26] <NinjaKirby> Xales: Do you get a different report if the server has merely hit maximum capacity? :3
#3644 [20:27] <xales> NinjaKirby: What do you mean?
#3645 [20:27] <NinjaKirby> Xales; I noticed you could specify the maximum server population in .properties. If he's the last friend to try and connect...
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#3647 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> Just wondering XD
#3648 [20:28] <mib_2timmo> That did not work
#3649 [20:28] <xales> mib_2timmo: What other server did you try?
#3650 [20:28] <xales> NinjaKirby: It would say something regarding that
#3651 [20:28] <NinjaKirby> Okie :3 Afk for cereal despite it's 1:30am
#3652 [20:28] <mib_2timmo> I used a community server
#3653 [20:29] <xales> mib_2timmo: What, exactly, was the error it gave?
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#3655 [20:30] <mib_2timmo> Operation Timedout
#3656 [20:30] <xales> Do you have any kind of firewall or "security" software installed?
#3657 [20:31] <mib_2timmo> I really dont know
#3658 [20:31] <xales> Can you check, please?
#3659 [20:31] <mib_2timmo> how?
#3660 [20:32] <xales> Well, did you install any such program? Is it your computer?
#3661 [20:32] <mib_2timmo> no none
#3662 [20:32] <xales> No to which question?
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#3664 [20:33] <mib_2timmo> No firewalls or security
#3665 [20:33] <NinjaKirby> :3
#3666 [20:33] <Whisperer> Does anone know how to download a texture pack. When i have the choice between single or multi there's "texture pack/mod. When i go to texture pack the pack i want is grayed out, why
#3667 [20:35] <xales> Whisperer: It might be for an older version of Minecraft, or it might require a mod to use
#3668 [20:35] <xales> ??> mib_2timmo mac/reinst
#3669 [20:35] <VoxelHead> mib_2timmo: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3670 [20:35] <VoxelHead> mib_2timmo: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3671 [20:36] <xales> Derp.
#3672 [20:36] <NinjaKirby> Herp.
#3673 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> slurp?
#3674 [20:36] <NinjaKirby> If all else fails, restart 3 times.
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#3676 [20:38] <Miranae> Anyone know if there's any issues with connecting to mc from China?
#3677 [20:39] <SinZ> shouldn't be
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#3679 [20:39] <SinZ> there would be no reason why it wouldn't work
#3680 [20:39] <Miranae> I get kicked off on our private server without a VPN
#3681 [20:39] <twow443> how do i load a map
#3682 [20:39] <Captain-Lightning> Does minecraft accept direct card payments yet?
#3683 [20:39] <xales> Miranae: Is there a message?
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#3685 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> Captain-Lightning: it might.
#3686 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> Captain-Lightning: see www.mojang.com
#3687 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> they just added a new host of payment options
#3688 [20:39] <Miranae> It just disconnects after a few seconds
#3689 [20:39] <xales> twow443: Follow the instructions where you found the map
#3690 [20:40] <Miranae> Ping isn't much higher without the VPN
#3691 [20:40] <xales> Miranae: It could be something on your end or on the server filtering it
#3692 [20:40] <Miranae> but servers shouldn't be defaulted to filtering it is it?
#3693 [20:40] <twow443> all i was given was the download link
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#3695 [20:41] <xales> Miranae: It depends on the server host
#3696 [20:41] <xales> It's not Minecraft itself, but whoever is hosting it might be
#3697 [20:42] <xales> twow443: Put the map files in the 'world' folder
#3698 [20:42] <Miranae> Is it possibly the ISP? because it's hosted on my bf's computer
#3699 [20:42] <xales> Yes, it's possible.
#3700 [20:42] <twow443> where it says "seed"?
#3701 [20:42] <xales> It might also be a firewall or something on the computer itself
#3702 [20:42] <xales> twow443: No, in the world folder
#3703 [20:43] <xales> ??> twow443 win/.minecraft
#3704 [20:43] <VoxelHead> twow443: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#3705 [20:46] <NinjaKirby> I wonder if he intentionally put the Fullstop in there to gain footing in the /Roaming/ directory list XD
#3706 [20:46] <xales> NinjaKirby: It's because of all other operating systems
#3707 [20:46] <xales> Folders beginning with a . are "hidden"
#3708 [20:47] <twow443> i did all that now what?
#3709 [20:47] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, intredasting
#3710 [20:47] <xales> twow443: Open the 'world' folder and put the files in there
#3711 [20:47] <xales> as I said ._.
#3712 [20:48] <twow443> i dont seem 2 have a "world" folder
#3713 [20:49] <SinZ> try "saves"
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#3715 [20:50] <twow443> i just drag it in?
#3716 [20:50] <xales> Yes. In the "saves" folder
#3717 [20:50] <SinZ> your new world? yes
#3718 [20:50] <xales> If it is a .zip or .rar, you have to extract it first.
#3719 [20:53] <twow443> i dragged it in how exactly do i extract it?
#3720 [20:53] <twow443> wait
#3721 [20:54] <twow443> never mind
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#3723 [20:55] <twow443> how do i do skins
#3724 [20:56] <xales> Find a skin you want, upload it at minecraft.net
#3725 [20:58] <twow443> where are skins
#3726 [20:58] <xales> Look on the forum, or Google for "minecraft skins" ._.
#3727 [20:59] <twow443> once again thank you
#3728 [20:59] <xales> ?? google
#3729 [20:59] <VoxelHead> google: http://google.com/ is your friend. Do not expect us to find things for you, when you are just as capable of using Google on your own. We aren't your personal Internet guide.
#3730 [20:59] <xales> twow443: Not a problem, but all of this you can find on Google. ._.
#3731 [20:59] <twow443> thats not what i meant im new to this and i want to do it right
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#3734 [21:13] <NinjaKirby> Ugh, I've reached one of those cavernous area's with what seems like never-ending Mobs
#3735 [21:14] <NinjaKirby> Too scared to go in T_T
#3736 [21:14] <mib_7isopq> how do you become an apprentice
#3737 [21:14] <NinjaKirby> Nani?
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#3743 [21:21] <twow443> is it possible 2 spawn anything on Beta
#3744 [21:22] <xales> If you use mods.
#3745 [21:22] <twow443> any mods specificly or does it not matter?
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#3747 [21:23] <xales> Ones that allow spawning things...
#3748 [21:23] <xales> Such as TooManyItems.
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#3751 [21:25] <pou> hi there i just bought the game this morn i cant get it to run can someone help me please?
#3752 [21:25] <xales> What happens when you try to run it?
#3753 [21:25] <pou> it just a black screen
#3754 [21:25] <xales> Try downloading it.
#3755 [21:26] <pou> yes i have three times i cant get it to work can it play on vista
#3756 [21:26] <pou> i cant even plAY OFF LINE
#3757 [21:26] <xales> You downloaded minecraft.exe?
#3758 [21:26] <pou> grrrrr
#3759 [21:26] <pou> yes
#3760 [21:26] <xales> And when you run that?
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#3762 [21:27] <pou> it comes up with a little black screen says mine craft launcher with writing in it
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#3764 [21:28] <xales> And does it have a username/password box in the bottom right?
#3765 [21:28] <pou> yes
#3766 [21:28] <xales> Put in your username and password then...
#3767 [21:29] <pou> cant connect to minecraft net
#3768 [21:29] <pou> then i click play offline and no wont work
#3769 [21:29] <xales> Is the time and date on your computer set correctly?
#3770 [21:30] <pou> oh ill check
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#3772 [21:30] <pou> yes its 21stmay 2011, 130pm
#3773 [21:31] <xales> ??> pou win/hosts
#3774 [21:31] <pou> frustrating
#3775 [21:31] <VoxelHead> pou: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#3776 [21:31] <VoxelHead> pou: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
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#3779 [21:33] <frogzilla> how do i download and use modloader
#3780 [21:33] <xales> We do not provide support for mods. Ask #risucraft
#3781 [21:33] <frogzilla> ok
#3782 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> !calc 1106-1070
#3783 [21:34] <GreyBot> Answer: 36
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#3786 [21:34] <NinjaKirby> ...
#3787 [21:34] <NinjaKirby> !calc 10%3
#3788 [21:34] <GreyBot> Answer: 0
#3789 [21:34] <NinjaKirby> o rly?
#3790 [21:35] <pou> i have done all what is paste bin??
#3791 [21:35] <sirdig> Hello all. Has anybody heard of this happeneing before. Whenever I go to press A-Z, in inputs randomly between 0-9.
#3792 [21:35] <sirdig> numlock is not on.
#3793 [21:35] <xales> pou: http://pastebin.com/
#3794 [21:35] <xales> ??> sirdig phantominput
#3795 [21:35] <VoxelHead> sirdig: (phantominput) If you installed some utility from Comcast, and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, emancipate it.
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#3797 [21:36] <sirdig> how do i go about doing that. I installed the free norton anti virus from it
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#3799 [21:37] <xales> sirdig: Just uninstall it.
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#3801 [21:37] <pou> i have paste bin now what do i do
#3802 [21:37] <xales> pou: After you paste it, give us the link it sends you to.
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#3804 [21:38] <mib_5lbcup> i downloaded a mod on the game and it worked perfectly before but now it wont what can i do
#3805 [21:38] <mib_j9sbtb> Hey I have a problem. Whenever I try to log on, it says "FAILED" and says "Not Installed" on the launcher
#3806 [21:38] <xales> mib_j9sbtb: The username or password is incorrect
#3807 [21:38] <xales> ??> mib_5lbcup win/reinst
#3808 [21:38] <VoxelHead> mib_5lbcup: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3809 [21:38] <VoxelHead> mib_5lbcup: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3811 [21:38] * xales stabs GreyVulpine
#3811 [21:38] <pou> I cant find a link do i JUST PASTE IT THEN WHAT DO I PUSH
#3812 [21:39] <xales> pou: Paste it in the box on pastebin.com and click the "submit" button
#3813 [21:39] <xales> then, give us the link it sends you to, in your address bar
#3814 [21:40] <mib_j9sbtb> Thank you :)
#3815 [21:40] <mib_5lbcup> will my mod still be there
#3816 [21:40] <xales> No.
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#3818 [21:40] <pou> IS THIS RIGHT OR HAVE I GOT IT WRONG??
#3819 [21:40] <xales> We can not provide support for fixing the game if you have mods installed. They are not supported, and are always the reason that the game doesn't work
#3820 [21:41] <xales> pou: You didn't give us a link. Also, stop with the caps.
#3821 [21:41] <pou> http://pastebin.com/iye8RX0W
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#3823 [21:41] <pou> oops sorry i am not a good typer
#3824 [21:41] <xales> pou: Was that the only file called "hosts"?
#3825 [21:42] <pou> imhosts.sam?
#3826 [21:42] <xales> No.
#3827 [21:42] <xales> Are there any others, something like "hosts.ist"?
#3828 [21:42] <pou> yes there is only one hosts
#3829 [21:42] <sirdig> xales: I love you man! It worked! thank you.
#3830 [21:43] <xales> sirdig: Not a problem.
#3831 [21:43] <xales> pou: Try to go to https://minecraft.net/ does it work?
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#3834 [21:44] <pou> shall i satrt again??
#3835 [21:44] <pou> so sorry
#3836 [21:44] <pou> start
#3837 [21:44] <xales> Does going to https://minecraft.net/ work?
#3838 [21:44] <xales> Does a page appear?
#3839 [21:45] <pou> yes the same page
#3840 [21:45] <xales> Do you have any antivirus or firewall software installed?
#3841 [21:45] <pou> yes avast
#3842 [21:45] <pou> shall i turn it off
#3843 [21:45] <xales> Try that.
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#3845 [21:50] <pou> i have turned all off and it still says cant connect to minecraftnet
#3846 [21:51] <xales> ??> pou win/dxdiag
#3847 [21:51] <VoxelHead> pou: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "save log" file and save it to your desktop.
#3848 [21:51] <VoxelHead> pou: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3849 [21:52] <mib_5lbcup> is there any other way to do it because i still want the mod
#3850 [21:52] <pou> grrrr how frustrating
#3851 [21:52] <xales> mib_5lbcup: No. As I said, we do not support mods, and the mod is the problem.
#3852 [21:52] <xales> Having the mod is why it does not work.
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#3854 [21:53] <mib_5lbcup> is there any other site that i can go to
#3855 [21:53] <xales> Once again
#3856 [21:53] <xales> The problem is that the mod is breaking Minecraft.
#3857 [21:53] <xales> You cannot use it.
#3858 [21:53] <xales> Wait for the person who makes the mod to correct the problem.
#3859 [21:54] <NinjaKirby> Xales, you are blessed with infinite... patience, and understanding. Are you a samaritan? :P
#3860 [21:54] <xales> No, I'm a BOFH.
#3861 [21:54] <pou> http://pastebin.com/Bv5cmZfG
#3862 [21:54] <xales> D:
#3863 [21:54] <pou> is that what i do ?
#3864 [21:55] <xales> pou: That is not all of the information
#3865 [21:55] <xales> You must paste all of the information it gives
#3866 [21:55] <NinjaKirby> Xales: lol, I won't lie, I had to google to break down that acronym :P Nice
#3867 [21:55] <xolotl> heh
#3868 [21:55] <pou> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 5/21/2011, 13:52:10 Machine name: KAUFUSIWHANA-PC Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.101014-0432) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Ac
#3869 [21:55] <xales> pou: Don't paste it here.
#3870 [21:55] * xolotl is pleased that his bofh.sh script is still in ~/bin
#3870 [21:55] <xales> You must use pastebin
#3871 [21:55] <pou> where ?
#3872 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> http://www.pastebin.com
#3873 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Use that website to paste your error log
#3874 [21:56] <pou> error log ?
#3875 [21:56] <xales> The dxdiag
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#3877 [21:57] <pou> when i paste it in dxdiag , what else do i have to do ?
#3878 [21:57] <xales> You have to copy ALL of the information from dxdiag
#3879 [21:57] <xales> then paste it to pastebin.com
#3880 [21:57] <xales> and give us the link to it
#3881 [22:01] <pou> its taking a while for the submit button to appear
#3882 [22:01] <xales> Click the refresh button.
#3883 [22:03] <pou> http://pastebin.com/3rqfjjiq
#3884 [22:03] <pou> thats the link
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#3886 [22:04] <pou> is that right xales ?
#3887 [22:04] <mr_pants> the free version is black after it loads, what do i do?
#3888 [22:04] <xales> pou: Yes. Install this and reboot your computer. http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_vista-32.aspx
#3889 [22:04] <xales> mr_pants: Install Java.
#3890 [22:04] <mr_pants> what version?
#3891 [22:05] <xales> The latest.
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#3893 [22:05] <mr_pants> thnx xales
#3894 [22:07] <pou> which one do i install ?Catalyst softwae suite or ATI catalyst application profiles ? xales ?
#3895 [22:07] <xales> The first one. software suite.
#3896 [22:08] <pou> and is that the final process ?
#3897 [22:08] <xales> Install it. Then restart your computer
#3898 [22:08] <xales> See if it works then.
#3899 [22:08] <pou> thanks alot for your patience
#3900 [22:12] <NinjaKirby> Y'know what I've yet to see? A Micro Bluetooth reciever to make wireless Earphones/Headphones of choice, maybe even dual socketed for Mich transmission as well.
#3901 [22:13] <NinjaKirby> Lithium powered, like the Wireless Earphones
#3902 [22:13] <NinjaKirby> If it exists, I am pur-chasing it.
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#3904 [22:13] <NinjaKirby> If not, I will make it and be rich
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#3907 [22:15] <zelda> zelda >.>
#3908 [22:15] <xales> What?
#3909 [22:15] <zelda> <-- Kealper
#3910 [22:15] <xales> oh
#3911 [22:15] <zelda> this was a random name mibbit gave me
#3912 [22:15] <zelda> man that is so dumb
#3913 [22:15] <xales> Indeed.
#3914 [22:15] <xales> I actually think it gives a random nick all the time
#3915 [22:15] <NinjaKirby> lol, Antoine Dodson, "You are really dumb"
#3916 [22:16] <xales> and mib_stupid is when it collides
#3917 [22:16] <xales> ._.
#3918 [22:16] <eggy> heh
#3919 [22:16] <zelda> this just adds to the confusion...as some random person could get the name "zelda" one time, and if someone else gets it in the future and we happen to remember the last person with that name (which does not seem random at all)....
#3920 [22:16] <zelda> then we get confused as to if this is a new person or what
#3921 [22:17] <zelda> mibbit literally tries to make support channels' lives suck
#3922 [22:18] <Kealper> i wonder how it shows kicks....
#3923 [22:18] * Kealper kicked zelda from #minecrafthelp (Reason: zelda)
#3924 [22:18] <Kealper> yeah, that's kinda noticable lol
#3925 [22:18] <xolotl> I suppose requiring registrations to chat is a solution
#3926 [22:18] <xolotl> Though nonideal for a help channel
#3927 [22:18] <Kealper> yeah, that's the problem we're having in here
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#3929 [22:19] <Kealper> that sort of thing works for like.... #minecraft or #mcchatter, but it would be bass ackwards for a support channel :/
#3930 [22:19] <Kealper> and would only end up hurting legitimate users
#3931 [22:20] <xales> Well.
#3932 [22:20] <rockin> anyone have an issue with their server recently giving people connecting a took too long to log in issue with server side having a java.net.NoRouteToHostException?
#3933 [22:20] <xales> People who need help with something legitimate could probably figure that out
#3934 [22:20] <xales> rockin: Some servers appear to be experiencing that. It's probably on minecraft.net's side. Just be patient
#3935 [22:21] <xales> Kealper: Most of the problems people have, like the black screen or "hao do i port foward lol" can be solved with some Googling
#3936 [22:21] <Kealper> true :/
#3937 [22:21] <rockin> ic, checked another server that I also play on and I'm seeing no issues =/
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#3939 [22:21] <rockin> and it's not port forwarding unless the hoster just had issues
#3940 [22:22] <xales> rockin: Not all the servers seem to be having the issue
#3941 [22:22] <Kealper> although black screens are a bit more in-depth than a google search, since many things can cause them...but i agree, there are a lot of things that can be solved easily if people just googled it
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#3943 [22:22] <rockin> this is the first one i've seen w/o decent knowledge, lol
#3944 [22:23] <xales> Kealper: It's generally something they did _wrong_ in the first place, or something that they could solve if they paid attention to other things
#3945 [22:23] <goobers> is it normal for mobs to be so jittery on a smp server?
#3946 [22:23] <xales> goobers: Depends on your connection to the server
#3947 [22:23] <Kealper> goobers: can you kill them or do they act like they are not there?
#3948 [22:23] <xales> and if the server is lagging at all
#3949 [22:23] <rockin> if they get stuck, and upload rate isn't up to snuff
#3950 [22:24] <goobers> i can kill them, but they are really hard to kill because they sort of glitch about when walking towards you.
#3951 [22:24] <Kealper> sounds like just a laggy server then
#3952 [22:24] <xales> Anyway, Kealper...I'm going to take a short break
#3953 [22:24] <xales> D:
#3954 [22:24] <Kealper> how long does it take for your messages to show up after you press enter to send it (for talking to people)
#3955 [22:25] <Kealper> xales: ok, cya for now
#3956 [22:25] <goobers> i'm running the server, and playing on the same machine. i5 750 w/ 4gb of ram.
#3957 [22:25] <Kealper> oh, well then
#3958 [22:25] <rockin> you using bukkit or something similar?
#3959 [22:25] <Kealper> does it happen on all servers or just yours?
#3960 [22:25] <rockin> some plugins can really break play
#3961 [22:26] <goobers> no just the default server application that is avaiable for download on the minecraft site.
#3962 [22:26] <goobers> not sure kealper, i haven't played on another server.
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#3964 [22:26] <rockin> and just you connecting? or others also on?
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#3966 [22:27] <goobers> just me on the server right now.
#3967 [22:27] <dr_bibble> i was here earlier and it worked but i dont remember how i got there it was on a link gave to me by one of these people
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#3969 [22:29] <dr_bibble> i just cant download this game to play out side the browser
#3970 [22:29] <goobers> is this just normal behavior for beta servers? i'm new so i don't know if this might be normal or not.
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#3972 [22:29] <Kealper> ok back....someone whom i know had a stroke earlier today D:
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#3974 [22:30] <Kealper> goobers: you could test it out on my server if you wanted to
#3975 [22:30] <Kealper> but no, that does not sound normal
#3976 [22:31] <Kealper> dr_bibble: what was it that you needed?
#3977 [22:31] <goobers> my cpu does not have hyperthreading would that cause it?
#3978 [22:31] <Boreeas> ??< help
#3979 [22:31] <Kealper> goobers: hyperthreading is all lies and propaganda, so no it does not cause it :P
#3980 [22:31] <Boreeas> ??< index
#3981 [22:31] <goobers> lul i know kealper i was kinda being sarcastic when i said that ;P
#3982 [22:31] <Kealper> oh xD
#3983 [22:31] <dr_bibble> i was here earlier and given a link and it worked but i dont remember how i got there basicly i cant find a place to download the game
#3984 [22:32] <Kealper> (with the people who have been in here just today, i take nothing for granted D:)
#3985 [22:32] <Kealper> !client
#3986 [22:32] <rockin> haha, hyperthreading
#3987 [22:33] <dr_bibble> the aubot had that link
#3988 [22:33] <Kealper> goobers: anywho, did you want to give my server a shot? if so, i'll need your ingame name because i run a whitelist on my server
#3989 [22:33] <goobers> whats the ip for your server kealper, yes i do.
#3990 [22:33] <goobers> goonies1632
#3991 [22:33] <Kealper> goobers: mc.kealper.com
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#3993 [22:34] <goobers> i'm kinda thinking it might just be the way beta multiplayer server functions. it's not that much of a glitch, but it is harder to kill creeps at night cause of it. otherwise when the normal daytime animals walk about it appears smooth only during the attack animations does it jitter in a sense, if you get what i mean. XD
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#3996 [22:36] <Kealper> what's up with TranslateBot and what does it translate to/from?
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#3999 [22:40] <BOB> it says that it cant upload Applet
#4000 [22:40] <BOB> Hello
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#4005 [22:46] <Kealper> finnally
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#4007 [22:47] <onix> what is fatal error 4
#4008 [22:47] <Kealper> that again? man i wish that was more specific
#4009 [22:48] <Kealper> onix: does your computer say it's the 20th of May, 2011?
#4010 [22:48] <Captain-Lightning> <Kealper> that again? man i wish that was more specific
#4011 [22:48] <NinjaKirby> lol, it's like IRC's 10053 error
#4012 [22:48] <Captain-Lightning> Repeat ad infinitum for every error ever in Minecraft.
#4013 [22:48] <Kealper> also, can you get on http://minecraft.net
#4014 [22:48] <onix> yes,
#4015 [22:48] <Kealper> Captain-Lightning: i wish it wern't true ._.
#4016 [22:49] <Captain-Lightning> ;D
#4017 [22:49] <Kealper> Captain-Lightning: although, the crash errors are usually way more specific than they need to be lol
#4018 [22:49] <Kealper> dangit
#4019 [22:49] <Kealper> creeper just blew up by me
#4020 [22:50] <Captain-Lightning> How bad are charged creepers?
#4021 [22:50] <Captain-Lightning> And what do they look like?
#4022 [22:50] <Kealper> uhh....wut? lol
#4023 [22:50] <onix> when I open minecraft it says, Fatal Error Occoured (4_):nul
#4024 [22:51] <Kealper> onix: when is it saying that?
#4025 [22:51] <Kealper> bah
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#4030 [22:56] <zelda> could any1 help me?
#4031 [22:57] <Kealper> zelda: with?
#4032 [22:57] <zelda> my game keeps crashing when i login to a server
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#4034 [22:57] <Kealper> zelda: have you tried it with different servers?
#4035 [22:57] <zelda> or when i load a game
#4036 [22:57] <zelda> yup
#4037 [22:57] <zelda> and singleplayer
#4038 [22:58] <Kealper> hmm...are you playing it in the browser or the client?
#4039 [22:58] <Kealper> also, has it ever worked fine before?
#4040 [22:58] <zelda> client
#4041 [22:58] <zelda> yeah for a good month or 2\
#4042 [22:58] <Kealper> do you have any mods installed?
#4043 [22:58] <zelda> nope
#4044 [22:58] <zelda> only a texture pack
#4045 [22:58] <Kealper> did you have the same texture pack when it was working before?
#4046 [22:59] <zelda> for a bit
#4047 [22:59] <zelda> and browser doesnt work either
#4048 [22:59] <Kealper> hmm....just as a test, try using the default texture pack
#4049 [22:59] <Kealper> also
#4050 [22:59] <Kealper> before you do that
#4051 [22:59] <zelda> i am
#4052 [22:59] <zelda> k
#4053 [22:59] <zelda> ill try again
#4054 [22:59] <Kealper> play it in the browser, and when it crashes, leave it like it is and tell me
#4055 [22:59] <Kealper> i will then say how to get information on what is causing the crash
#4056 [23:01] <zelda> i tried on client it just flashes a game grash page for a .5 of a second then closes
#4057 [23:01] <zelda> crash*
#4058 [23:02] <zelda> and browser doesnt work
#4059 [23:02] <zelda> when i go 2 it it just sais loading for a sec then it goes blank
#4060 [23:02] <zelda> u here?
#4061 [23:02] <Kealper> yeah
#4062 [23:02] <zelda> k
#4063 [23:02] <zelda> sooo...
#4064 [23:02] <Kealper> ok so it's sitting there on a blan kscreen right now?
#4065 [23:02] <Kealper> blank screen*
#4066 [23:03] <zelda> sometimes black
#4067 [23:03] <Kealper> see the little white coffee cup icon in the bottom right of your monitor, by the computer's clock?
#4068 [23:03] <Kealper> right click that and select Open Java Console
#4069 [23:03] <zelda> k
#4070 [23:04] <zelda> im on control panel
#4071 [23:04] <Kealper> uhh, the console, not the control panel :/
#4072 [23:04] <zelda> ?
#4073 [23:04] <zelda> oh
#4074 [23:04] <zelda> nvm
#4075 [23:04] <zelda> kk
#4076 [23:04] <zelda> wat now
#4077 [23:05] <Kealper> see a button that says to copy the stuff in the console?
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#4079 [23:05] <zelda> yeah
#4080 [23:05] <zelda> ill copy it
#4081 [23:05] <Kealper> click that, and then do...
#4082 [23:05] <Kealper> Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
#4083 [23:06] <Kealper> (canned responses by typing a quick /pb \o/)
#4084 [23:06] <zelda> its not working
#4085 [23:06] <zelda> its not copying
#4086 [23:07] <Kealper> then click inside the console itself (where all the text is) and then hold your Ctrl button, press the "a" key, and release both
#4087 [23:07] <zelda> what do i do on paste bin?
#4088 [23:07] <Kealper> oh, did you get it copied?
#4089 [23:07] <zelda> oh
#4090 [23:07] <zelda> no
#4091 [23:07] <Kealper> yeah, do that ctrl+a thing to select all the text, and then do ctrl+c to copy it all
#4092 [23:07] <zelda> Java Plug-in 1.6.0_25
#4093 [23:08] <Kealper> don't paste it in here lol, that is what pastebin is for :P
#4094 [23:08] <zelda> do i have to make an account?
#4095 [23:08] <Kealper> anyways, paste it into the pastebin.com site, and then submit it..once you submitted it, copy the URL that it took you to, and give that to me
#4096 [23:08] <Kealper> no
#4097 [23:09] <zelda> w8
#4098 [23:09] <zelda> whats ur e mail?
#4099 [23:09] <Kealper> you don't need to email it
#4100 [23:09] <zelda> itll be easier
#4101 [23:09] <Kealper> it's easiest to just use pastebin ._.
#4102 [23:09] <zelda> k
#4103 [23:09] <zelda> its there
#4104 [23:09] <Kealper> you just paste it in to the site, press submit, and then give the url in here
#4105 [23:10] <Kealper> well, i won't be able to find it unless you gave me the URL of it
#4106 [23:10] <zelda> how do i give url
#4107 [23:10] <zelda> oh
#4108 [23:10] <Kealper> just copy that frrom your browser's address bar
#4109 [23:10] <Kealper> from*
#4110 [23:10] <zelda> hockeyguy08
#4111 [23:10] <Kealper> O.o
#4112 [23:11] <zelda> brb
#4113 [23:11] <Kealper> ok.....? lol
#4114 [23:11] <zelda> gotta eat dinner real quik
#4115 [23:13] <Kealper> zelda: also for when you get back, run it as administrator (if you don't know how, i can tell you)
#4116 [23:15] <zelda> k
#4117 [23:15] <zelda> how?
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#4119 [23:16] <zelda> u here?
#4120 [23:16] <xales> Right click on it
#4121 [23:16] <xales> and click "Run ad Administrator"
#4122 [23:16] <zelda> on icon?
#4123 [23:16] <xales> Yes.
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#4125 [23:16] <zelda> well its not an option
#4126 [23:16] <xales> Are you using Windows XP?
#4127 [23:16] <Kealper> hold the shift button down and then right click it
#4128 [23:17] <zelda> it only shows about java technology
#4129 [23:17] <zelda> go to java.com
#4130 [23:17] <Naffyboi> how the hell do i connect to a server online?
#4131 [23:17] <Naffyboi> thats a survival mode server?
#4132 [23:17] <Kealper> are you trying to right click the coffee cup icon or the minecraft icon?
#4133 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#4134 [23:17] <xales> Naffyboi: You click the Multiplayer button, and the the IP for it
#4135 [23:17] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#4136 [23:17] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#4137 [23:17] <zelda> look up an IP on google
#4138 [23:18] <zelda> so its not showing kealper
#4139 [23:18] <Naffyboi> i just bought the game
#4140 [23:18] <Naffyboi> that allows me to join those servers, ye?
#4141 [23:18] <xales> Yes.
#4142 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> Naffyboi, yes
#4143 [23:18] <xales> zelda: What icon are you right clicking on?
#4144 [23:18] <zelda> kealer?
#4145 [23:18] <zelda> u here?
#4146 [23:19] * xales pokes Kealper
#4146 [23:19] <Kealper> rawr
#4147 [23:19] <Kealper> sorry, was looking elsewhere lol
#4148 [23:19] <zelda> k
#4149 [23:19] <zelda> well its not showing up
#4150 [23:19] <Kealper> you are right clicking on the minecraft.exe right?
#4151 [23:19] <zelda> no
#4152 [23:19] <Kealper> right click that one
#4153 [23:20] <zelda> i found it
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#4155 [23:20] <zelda> yay!
#4156 [23:20] <zelda> it crashed again
#4157 [23:21] <Kealper> where do you have it running from?
#4158 [23:21] <Kealper> your desktop?
#4159 [23:21] <zelda> yeah
#4160 [23:21] <Kealper> (where is minecraft.exe at)
#4161 [23:21] <zelda> desktop
#4162 [23:21] <Kealper> that's really weird then....
#4163 [23:21] <zelda> I put it there
#4164 [23:21] <xales> Kealper: What error are they getting?
#4165 [23:21] <Kealper> i mean it's wierd that it is crashing for that error
#4166 [23:21] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com/ksKQwbsB
#4167 [23:22] <zelda> lemme try somwhere else
#4168 [23:22] <xales> uh, Kealper?
#4169 [23:22] <xales> Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError at com.pclewis.mcpatcher.mod.TextureUtils.<clinit>(TextureUtils.java:43)
#4170 [23:22] <xales> mcpatcher
#4171 [23:22] <xales> derp.
#4172 [23:22] <Kealper> oh, derp
#4173 [23:22] <Kealper> i was seeing the first part lol
#4174 [23:23] <Kealper> the security access denied one ._.
#4175 [23:23] <Naffyboi> so what exactlly did buying the game get me
#4176 [23:23] <Naffyboi> ?
#4177 [23:23] <zelda> free multiplayer
#4178 [23:23] <Kealper> Naffyboi: the game
#4179 [23:23] <Kealper> zelda: run the launcher, click the Options button
#4180 [23:23] <zelda> k
#4181 [23:24] <Kealper> check the thing that says force update, hit ok, run the game again
#4182 [23:24] <zelda> k
#4183 [23:24] <Kealper> if it crashes right as soon as you log in afterwards (probably will) tell me, and i'll say what to do to fix it
#4184 [23:24] <zelda> wow it worked!
#4185 [23:24] <zelda> thx
#4186 [23:25] <Kealper> oh, i guess it does reset the config file
#4187 [23:25] <zelda> if i could id give u 100$
#4188 [23:25] <zelda> thx thx thx
#4189 [23:25] <Kealper> zelda: for future reference so you don't do it again, you tried to install a bad copy of the HD texture fix
#4190 [23:25] <zelda> its been working on my other computer that suck
#4191 [23:25] <zelda> s
#4192 [23:26] <zelda> thx
#4193 [23:26] <zelda> i love u
#4194 [23:26] <Kealper> lol
#4195 [23:26] <zelda> i would kiss u
#4196 [23:26] <zelda> lol
#4197 [23:26] <Kealper> ...lol
#4198 [23:26] <zelda> what am i smiking?
#4199 [23:27] <zelda> smoking*
#4200 [23:27] <zelda> bye
#4201 [23:27] * Kealper goes back to undoing the failure he has written
#4201 [23:27] <xales> So Kealper
#4202 [23:27] <xales> pygame? :D
#4203 [23:27] <Kealper> trying to mix windows DCs with GDI+ is not working out like i had hoped
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#4205 [23:28] <Kealper> i don't know python so i'd just sit there stairing at pygame examples with my head going boom
#4206 [23:28] <xales> It's fairly similar to C
#4207 [23:28] <xales> time to learn
#4208 [23:28] <xales> :>
#4209 [23:28] <Kealper> but i have seen some pretty spiffy stuff done with pygame
#4210 [23:28] <Kealper> heck, i think mcedit even uses it
#4211 [23:30] <AndrewPH|AFK> I don't think mcedit uses pygame :>
#4212 [23:30] <xales> It does.
#4213 [23:30] <AndrewPH|AFK> I thought it used something else, my mistake :p
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#4215 [23:31] <Kealper> i think the window title actually starts off as "PyGame" or something before mcedit fully starts up and changes it
#4216 [23:32] <Kealper> but i is two dumb fer somethin' like pygame
#4217 [23:32] <xales> pygame is easy
#4218 [23:32] <xales> lol
#4219 [23:32] <Kealper> yeah if you know python like the back of your hand >.>
#4220 [23:32] <xales> I don't
#4221 [23:32] <xales> and it's still easy
#4222 [23:32] <xales> try it :)
#4223 [23:32] <Kealper> this is going to be a very dumb question
#4224 [23:33] <Kealper> how hard is it to interface with win32 dlls with python?
#4225 [23:33] <xales> Very, very easy
#4226 [23:33] <xales> http://cython.org/
#4227 [23:33] <Kealper> like AutoIt easy or what?
#4228 [23:33] <AndrewPH|AFK> I found pygame fairly easy, and I spent like 5 minutes with it.
#4229 [23:34] <AndrewPH|AFK> most of the time, the issue is understanding something and knowing how things work.
#4230 [23:35] <AndrewPH|AFK> the rest of the time is not knowing enough about *language*
#4231 [23:35] <AndrewPH|AFK> (by the former i mean not understanding/knowing)
#4232 [23:35] <Kealper> so with Cython, it would be easy to get BASS audio stuff working in python?
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#4235 [23:37] * Kealper will consider it, but for now, it is time to make overlay menus in his music player
#4235 [23:37] <xales> Kealper: Just use pygame's music playing :)
#4236 [23:37] <Kealper> but BASS is really epic :/
#4237 [23:37] <xales> but pygame's music does everything BASS does
#4238 [23:37] <Kealper> and painfully easy
#4239 [23:37] <xales> :P
#4240 [23:37] <xales> and easier
#4241 [23:38] <Kealper> and nothing can be as awesome as BASS D:
#4242 [23:38] <Kealper> (AudioSurf uses it!)
#4243 [23:40] <Kealper> but in all seriousness, it is stupid easy...you just call one function to initialize the stuff, one function to tell it what file you want to play, with a few parameters on how it should play it, and then the function to play the audio
#4244 [23:40] <xales> look at pygame's audio
#4245 [23:40] <xales> :)
#4246 [23:42] <Kealper> with pygame...can you draw png images on to the gui?
#4247 [23:42] <Kealper> and with it's audio thing, can you get the audio levels of the current thing? if so....it would be fun to recreate this media player in it
#4248 [23:43] <Kealper> wut
#4249 [23:44] <Kealper> must. find. functions for this.... "The DirectDraw® API provides support for hardware-accelerated 2-D graphics. It offers fast access to display hardware while retaining compatibility with the Windows graphics device interface (GDI)."
#4250 [23:44] <Kealper> DirectDraw supports bit-block transfers D:
#4251 [23:44] <Kealper> sorry pygame, but i think i'm going to go poke at DirectDraw :P
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#4256 [23:49] <xales> Kealper: you can.
#4257 [23:49] <xales> both of those
#4258 [23:49] <xales> :)
#4259 [23:49] <Kealper> probably...but i'm stubborn
#4260 [23:49] <Kealper> and don't want to learn python :/
#4261 [23:49] <Kealper> although i should....
#4262 [23:50] <xales> it's a much better language
#4263 [23:50] <xales> lol
#4264 [23:50] <xales> Kealper: also look up py2exe :)
#4265 [23:50] <mib_x3581m> Hi. Um. I was wondering if anyone had been having this problem. I just bought Minecraft today and all I get after I log in is a black screen and it won't play in browser either. My java is updated, I've restarted my computer several times, and redowloaded the folder. If anyone else has these problems or, better yet, has a solution, that would be awesome.
#4266 [23:51] <Kealper> is that just packed python code with the interpreter or does it convert it to like C or something and then compile it?
#4267 [23:51] <Kealper> mib_x3581m: open it in the browser, wait for it to fail, keep it there, and then tell us in here for further instruction
#4268 [23:52] <mib_x3581m> Cool. Okay.
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#4270 [23:53] <Kealper> it's at the black screen in the browser right now?
#4271 [23:53] <mib_x3581m> It's a box with a little box in the corner with an x in it.
#4272 [23:53] <kulor> 'Sup guys?
#4273 [23:53] <mib_x3581m> Like when you
#4274 [23:53] <mib_x3581m> can't see a picture online
#4275 [23:54] <Kealper> mib_x3581m: uhh...is there a white coffee cup icon in the bottom right of your screen, by the computer clock?
#4276 [23:54] <kulor> So I'm dabbling in texture pack editing and having some problems...
#4277 [23:54] <Kealper> kulor: although this isn't the best channel to ask, if we can't help you, we can redirect you to some place who probably can
#4278 [23:54] <kulor> Ah, that would be cool
#4279 [23:54] <mib_x3581m> No, but that's java right?
#4280 [23:55] <Kealper> mib_x3581m: yes
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#4283 [23:55] <kulor> Basically, when I unzip a texture pack and then re-zip it, it won't work at all
#4284 [23:55] <Kealper> kulor: make sure you are zipping it correctly
#4285 [23:55] <Kealper> the directory structure in the zip has to be exactly the same
#4286 [23:55] <kulor> I've been searching for tutorials for how to do a texture pack properly, but haven't found any
#4287 [23:55] <mib_x3581m> I updated it to the most recent version after I was experiencing issues and restarted my computer.
#4288 [23:56] <mib_x3581m> Is there anything else that I should do with that?
#4289 [23:56] <kulor> Yeah...I use Windows XP's compression functionality
#4290 [23:56] <kulor> Basically, I download the texture pack
#4291 [23:56] <kulor> Unzip it by right-clicking and hitting "Extract here" or whatever
#4292 [23:57] <kulor> Then right-click the folder and hit "Compress to archive" or whatever
#4293 [23:57] <kulor> And through that process, it breaks
#4294 [23:57] <Kealper> kulor: that's why
#4295 [23:57] <Kealper> kulor: it's compressing the folder in that, too
#4296 [23:57] <kulor> Hah, is it really that simple?
#4297 [23:57] <Kealper> kulor: open the folder, highlight everything in it, and then compress that into one file
#4298 [23:57] <kulor> Hang on, I'll check
#4299 [23:57] <kulor> It's possible I never even noticed that
#4300 [23:57] <Kealper> mib_x3581m: anyways, back to you
#4301 [23:57] <Kealper> kulor: many people end up doing that on accident lol
#4302 [23:58] <Pou> Can someone please help I bought the game this morn I cannot open the game at all it says cant connect to minecraft.net can someone please help
#4303 [23:58] <Kealper> mib_x3581m: so the browser version doesn't even load?
#4304 [23:58] <Kealper> mib_x3581m: completely uninstall Java and reinstall it :/
#4305 [23:58] <mib_x3581m> Yup. Okay, will do.
#4306 [23:58] <Kealper> Pou: can you get on it with your browser?