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#5 [00:22] <ShortGhost> Can anyone help me with a minecraft crashing problem?
#6 [00:22] <xales> Sure.
#7 [00:23] <xales> What are the circumstances of the crash, and is there an error message?
#8 [00:23] <ShortGhost> Hi, my minecraft has been crashing recently
#9 [00:23] <ShortGhost> it's been saying that my
#10 [00:23] <ShortGhost> Display drivers are crashing
#11 [00:23] <xales> What's the exact error? If it's more than a line long, use http://pastebin.com/
#12 [00:23] <ShortGhost> "Your display driver has crashed and recovered"
#13 [00:24] <ShortGhost> that's all it says to me
#14 [00:24] <xales> Do you know what graphics card you have?
#15 [00:24] <ShortGhost> I have a NVIDIA graphics card
#16 [00:24] <ShortGhost> i was here the other day, I updated my NVIDIA drivers, and Java
#17 [00:24] <ShortGhost> but it crashes even worst now
#18 [00:24] <ShortGhost> my PC will stay frozen for 5-10mins
#19 [00:26] <xales> Do you know the exact model of the card?
#20 [00:26] <xales> Also, are you using any mods or texture packs?
#21 [00:27] <ShortGhost> NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GS is the model
#22 [00:27] <ShortGhost> and I dont use any mods or texture packs
#23 [00:27] <xales> You have laptop, correct?
#24 [00:27] <ShortGhost> My minecraft was working for the last couple months, but ever since the last update, it keeps crashing
#25 [00:27] <ShortGhost> Yes i do have a laptop
#26 [00:28] <xales> Is the laptop very hot, especially on the bottom?
#27 [00:28] <ShortGhost> not at all
#28 [00:29] <ShortGhost> the only time my laptop get near hot is if i'm playing an online game
#29 [00:29] <xales> Rather, is it after/during a crash
#30 [00:29] <ShortGhost> I didn't notice any heat before/after/during the crash
#31 [00:30] <xales> hmm
#32 [00:30] <xales> try reinstalling the drivers, I guess
#33 [00:30] <xales> what version of Windows do you have?
#34 [00:30] <ShortGhost> Vista
#35 [00:31] <xales> 32 or 64-bit?
#36 [00:31] <ShortGhost> 64 bit
#37 [00:31] <xales> okay
#38 [00:32] <xales> install this, then restart your computer
#39 [00:32] <xales> http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-270.61-whql-driver.html
#40 [00:34] <ShortGhost> I was @ this website the other day, I think I downloaded a different one. Is this one any different?
#41 [00:34] <xales> Yes, it's the one designed specifically for your card
#42 [00:35] <ShortGhost> oh ok, i'll try it ou
#43 [00:35] <ShortGhost> out*
#44 [00:47] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :<
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#49 [01:06] <ShortGhost> xales, are you still there?
#50 [01:06] <xales> Indeed
#51 [01:06] <ShortGhost> I installed the update, restarted, tried up minecraft, and it still crashed
#52 [01:06] <xales> Hmm...
#53 [01:07] <xales> Actually, wait. It's a laptop, correct?
#54 [01:07] <ShortGhost> yeah
#55 [01:07] <xales> What's the model number/manufacturer?
#56 [01:07] <ShortGhost> I'm not quiet sure
#57 [01:07] <ShortGhost> it's an Asus
#58 [01:07] <ShortGhost> i'm not sure about model number
#59 [01:08] <xales> Look on the case, it should say it somewhere
#60 [01:08] <ShortGhost> Asus x83v
#61 [01:08] <ShortGhost> I think that's it
#62 [01:09] <xales> One minut
#63 [01:09] <xales> minute*
#64 [01:09] <ShortGhost> allright
#65 [01:09] <xales> Is it an x83vb or x83vm?
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#67 [01:10] <ShortGhost> I only see x83v
#68 [01:10] <ShortGhost> nothing else
#69 [01:11] <xales> Okay, go to http://support.asus.com/Download/Options.aspx?SLanguage=en&type=1
#70 [01:11] <xales> click "Start" under "Option 1"
#71 [01:11] <mr_pants> failed to find accellerated open gl mode on dell inspiron mini
#72 [01:11] <mr_pants> ??
#73 [01:12] <xales> mr_pants: You have to update your graphics card driver
#74 [01:12] <mr_pants> been there done that like 6 times
#75 [01:12] <xales> Where did you update it from?
#76 [01:12] <mr_pants> windows website
#77 [01:13] <xales> There's your problem
#78 [01:13] <mr_pants> so where do i go?
#79 [01:13] <xales> Depends on what card you have. Do you happen to know?
#80 [01:13] <mr_pants> 1 sec
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#82 [01:14] <mr_pants> intel graphics media accellerator 500
#83 [01:14] <ShortGhost> What do i do on this website xales?
#84 [01:14] <xales> bleh
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#86 [01:14] <mr_pants> bleh?
#87 [01:15] <xales> ShortGhost: It should detect your computer..then find the graphics driver and download it. it has a more specific version
#88 [01:15] <ShortGhost> Oh i see
#89 [01:15] <xales> mr_pants: Intel cards are absolute garbage...it may not run at all for you, but we can try
#90 [01:15] <xales> mr_pants: what is the model number of your computer?
#91 [01:15] <mr_pants> well if it doesnt imma be pissed cause i bought the game
#92 [01:15] <xales> Well, there is a demo...
#93 [01:15] <mr_pants> its a dell inspiron mini
#94 [01:16] <mr_pants> dunno the mod num
#95 [01:16] <xales> It should say on it
#96 [01:16] <mr_pants> pp19s
#97 [01:17] <xales> okay, one minute
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#99 [01:17] <xales> err, that doesn't sound right
#100 [01:18] <xales> mr_pants: look at the labels on the bottom of the computer
#101 [01:18] <xales> find the "service tag"
#102 [01:18] <mr_pants> exactly what it says on the back of the computer
#103 [01:18] <xales> and give me that
#104 [01:18] <mr_pants> hztzqk1
#105 [01:19] <xales> okay
#106 [01:19] <xales> do you have Windows XP, Vista, or 7?
#107 [01:19] <mr_pants> xp i think.........
#108 [01:19] <dopeghoti> what colour is your Start Button? (usually in the lower left)
#109 [01:20] <xales> A better question, is it an orb or a bar?
#110 [01:20] <mr_pants> blue
#111 [01:20] <mr_pants> circle
#112 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Then vista or 7
#113 [01:20] <mr_pants> oh....
#114 [01:20] <dopeghoti> we've narrowed it down to Windows 6.
#115 [01:21] <xales> mr_pants: ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/video/R244278.exe
#116 [01:21] <xales> download and install that
#117 [01:23] <mr_pants> .....
#118 [01:23] <mr_pants> waiting........
#119 [01:24] <mr_pants> error message: this OS is not supported
#120 [01:24] <xales> ._.
#121 [01:25] <xales> mr_pants: ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/video/R238726.exe
#122 [01:26] <mr_pants> waiting........
#123 [01:26] <mr_pants> how do i tell what OS i am running?
#124 [01:26] <dopeghoti> press Win+Pause
#125 [01:26] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
#126 [01:27] <mr_pants> huh?
#127 [01:27] <dopeghoti> ??> mr_pants win/key
#128 [01:27] <VoxelHead> mr_pants: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#129 [01:27] <dopeghoti> if you press Win+Pause, a window will appear that will tell you, among other things, which version of Windows you are running
#130 [01:28] <mr_pants> pause? sorry, im not smart
#131 [01:28] <xales> The key in the upper left that says "Pause/Break" on it
#132 [01:28] <xales> upper right, rather
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#134 [01:29] <mr_pants> i seriously dont see it
#135 [01:29] <mr_pants> does it make a dif that i am on a laptop keyboard?
#136 [01:29] <xales> Err..a laptop might not have it
#137 [01:29] <mr_pants> ah
#138 [01:29] <xales> Right click Computer and select Properties
#139 [01:30] <mr_pants> aha! 7 home premium
#140 [01:30] <xales> Did you try the second one I linked to you?
#141 [01:30] <mr_pants> in prog.
#142 [01:31] <mr_pants> it said that this driver is older than the one i had installed
#143 [01:31] <xales> Install it anyway
#144 [01:31] <mr_pants> waiting..........
#145 [01:32] <mr_pants> have to restart now
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#147 [01:36] <mib_qvqg1a> uh, anyone there?
#148 [01:37] <xales> Sure
#149 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#150 [01:37] <mib_qvqg1a> :l
#151 [01:37] <xales> "anyone" is here
#152 [01:37] <xales> Nobody else is
#153 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> !seen anyone
#154 [01:37] <GreyBot> I found 1 results for your LastSeen query. Here are the results, starting with the newest result: AnyOne7992
#155 [01:37] <GreyBot> I last saw AnyOne7992 (Mibbit@84.120.13.113.dyn.user.ono.com) 4wks 12hrs 31mins 55secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client
#156 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> There was "Anyone" 4 weeks ago
#157 [01:37] <mib_qvqg1a> has minecraft ever crashed for anyone here
#158 [01:37] <xales> Do you get an error message?
#159 [01:37] <mib_qvqg1a> yea
#160 [01:38] <xales> ?? error
#161 [01:38] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#162 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy and paste it at www.pastebin.com, then give us the URL for it
#163 [01:38] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#164 [01:38] <mib_qvqg1a> and i try to open it up, but it wont
#165 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Why won't it?
#166 [01:38] <mib_qvqg1a> idk, thats what im trying to figure out
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#168 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Is it a file?
#169 [01:38] <mr_pants> ok, lets try this
#170 [01:39] <xales> mib_qvqg1a: The error won't open?
#171 [01:39] <mib_qvqg1a> the game just goes to a white page right after the Mojang, and it wont go away
#172 [01:40] <mib_qvqg1a> you can see the error page for a literal, split second before it goes to the white page
#173 [01:40] <xales> Has it worked before?
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#175 [01:40] <mib_qvqg1a> yea, just crashed tonight, 10:08
#176 [01:41] <xales> Have you tried to install a texturepack/mod at the time?
#177 [01:41] <mib_qvqg1a> i tried to delete one, but aparently i was USING it at the same time, so it crashed
#178 [01:41] <xales> ??> mib_qvqg1a win/reinst
#179 [01:41] <VoxelHead> mib_qvqg1a: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#180 [01:41] <VoxelHead> mib_qvqg1a: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#181 [01:42] <mib_qvqg1a> texture
#182 [01:42] <xales> Actually
#183 [01:42] <xales> don't delete just the 'bin' folder
#184 [01:42] <xales> delete every folder, except 'saves'
#185 [01:42] <mib_qvqg1a> uh....
#186 [01:42] <xales> (if you delete 'saves', all your worlds will be gone)
#187 [01:42] <mr_pants> didnt work, still the same error message
#188 [01:42] <mib_qvqg1a> no, im lost :l
#189 [01:43] <Vector> I would re-install java.
#190 [01:43] <xales> mr_pants: You can try playing in the browser...
#191 [01:43] <mib_qvqg1a> it crashed in browser
#192 [01:43] <mr_pants> still get the error message
#193 [01:43] <xales> mib_qvqg1a: just follow VoxelHead's instructions
#194 [01:43] <xales> mr_pants: Playing at minecraft.net?
#195 [01:43] <mr_pants> yep
#196 [01:43] <mib_qvqg1a> yea, in browser
#197 [01:43] <xales> not much you can do then..
#198 [01:43] <xales> mib_qvqg1a: I wasn't talking to you >:|
#199 [01:43] <xales> mib_qvqg1a: please follow VoxelHead's instructions
#200 [01:43] <mr_pants> get a refund for starters
#201 [01:43] <mib_qvqg1a> ok
#202 [01:44] <xales> mr_pants: http://minecraft.net/support/
#203 [01:44] <mib_qvqg1a> tried it, didnt help
#204 [01:44] <mr_pants> if i had another computer it wouldnt be an issue but this is my one and only
#205 [01:44] <mib_qvqg1a> tried it
#206 [01:44] <xales> mib_qvqg1a: you deleted the bin folder?
#207 [01:44] <mib_qvqg1a> what bin
#208 [01:45] <xales> mib_qvqg1a: you need to follow VoxelHead's instructions
#209 [01:45] <xales> as I have said
#210 [01:45] <mib_qvqg1a> k, ill try to anyway :l
#211 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - Do you have any questions about VoxelHead's instructions?
#212 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - Is there anything you don't understand?
#213 [01:45] <mib_qvqg1a> windows+R keys?????
#214 [01:46] <mib_qvqg1a> everything...
#215 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - The windows key is between the ctrl and alt key, on your keyboard
#216 [01:46] <mib_qvqg1a> found it
#217 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> Press it, and the R key at the same time to bring up the run command
#218 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> There, please type in: %appdata%
#219 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> Press enter.
#220 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the .minecraft folder?
#221 [01:46] <mib_qvqg1a> or you could press the icon on you screen
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#224 [01:47] <mib_qvqg1a> do i put in the % to?
#225 [01:47] <mr_pants> thanks xales, dunno if they can fix it but its worth a shot.
#226 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - Yes
#227 [01:47] <mib_qvqg1a> ok
#228 [01:47] <mib_qvqg1a> says roaming
#229 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - Go into the roaming folder.
#230 [01:47] <mr_pants> also, i am ms. pants, not mr. pants
#231 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - Do you see the folder named ".minecraft"?
#232 [01:48] <mib_qvqg1a> .minecraft, yes
#233 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - Go into the .minecraft folder. Delete everything but the "Saves" folder inside
#234 [01:48] <mib_qvqg1a> k
#235 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - Then launch minecraft again when you finish that
#236 [01:49] <mib_qvqg1a> uh...
#237 [01:49] <mib_qvqg1a> says i have it open, but i dont
#238 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - Close minecraft?
#239 [01:49] <mib_qvqg1a> i did
#240 [01:49] <mib_qvqg1a> delet bin right?
#241 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - Delete everything but the 'saves' folder
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#243 [01:50] <mib_qvqg1a> wont let me delete the bin
#244 [01:50] <xales> Why won't it?
#245 [01:50] <mib_qvqg1a> wont let me delete ANYTHING
#246 [01:50] <xales> What does it say
#247 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - are you sure minecraft isn't open
#248 [01:50] <mib_qvqg1a> i have no idea...
#249 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> probably a java process still running
#250 [01:50] <mr_pants> goodnite everyone
#251 [01:50] <mib_qvqg1a> it says that the folder is open in another program
#252 [01:51] <xales> mib_qvqg1a: Make sure Minecraft is completely closed
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#254 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - Can you right click on your start menu, choose "Open task manager"
#255 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> In the task manager, go to the "Processes" tab
#256 [01:51] <mib_qvqg1a> all that is open is the .minecraft folder, and this page here
#257 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - Do you have the processes tab open in the task manager?
#258 [01:52] <mib_qvqg1a> have it open now
#259 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_qvqg1a - Look for a java or javaw process
#260 [01:52] <mib_qvqg1a> java.exe?
#261 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> If you find it, click on it and choose "End Process"
#262 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#263 [01:53] <mib_qvqg1a> got it
#264 [01:53] <mib_qvqg1a> delete?
#265 [01:53] <mib_qvqg1a> end process
#266 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#267 [01:53] <mib_qvqg1a> ended
#268 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Now go back to the .minecraft folder
#269 [01:53] <mib_qvqg1a> NOW try and delete?
#270 [01:53] <mib_qvqg1a> k
#271 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> And yes, try deleting everything but the 'saves' folder
#272 [01:53] <mib_qvqg1a> yes! =D
#273 [01:54] <mib_qvqg1a> worked
#274 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Great, launch minecraft again
#275 [01:54] <mib_qvqg1a> options to?
#276 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#277 [01:54] <mib_qvqg1a> if this works, you some kind of mega genius
#278 [01:54] <mib_qvqg1a> delete options to?
#279 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything but the 'saves' folder
#280 [01:55] <mib_qvqg1a> ok
#281 [01:55] <mib_qvqg1a> all deleted exepte saves
#282 [01:55] <mib_qvqg1a> try to open now?
#283 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Then launch minecraft
#284 [01:55] <mib_qvqg1a> working so far
#285 [01:56] <mib_qvqg1a> its downloading the stuff
#286 [01:56] <mib_qvqg1a> genius
#287 [01:56] <mib_qvqg1a> thanks =D
#288 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> It's what we're here for.
#289 [01:56] <mib_qvqg1a> lawl
#290 [01:57] <mib_qvqg1a> i would have gotten lost
#291 [01:57] <mib_qvqg1a> now, how do you put this into favs...
#292 [01:57] <xales> Ideally, by downloading a proper IRC client
#293 [01:57] <mib_qvqg1a> xP
#294 [01:57] <mib_qvqg1a> faved
#295 [01:57] <mib_qvqg1a> thanks again
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#299 [02:10] <sprog> hello?
#300 [02:10] <sprog> anyone here?
#301 [02:10] * VoxelHead shakes head
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#302 [02:11] <mib_qvqg1a> hai
#303 [02:18] <VoxelHead> Watch out for the moose.
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#324 [03:06] <mib_b5mefg> I have a problem with a mod. Where do I have do post my problem?
#325 [03:06] <xales> #risucraft if it's a single-player mod, #bukkit if it's for Bukkit
#326 [03:06] <mib_b5mefg> thanks
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#328 [03:07] <mib_b5mefg> How do I join risucraft?
#329 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> /join #risucraft
#330 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> Or not
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#332 [03:09] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =[
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#341 [03:31] <john_doh> I just bought a license and ran minecraft last week; sunday my Dell machine decided to stop running both browser & local versions. I only get white screen after it starts to load landscape. Dell Specs: Dell Studio 1458, i7, 6GB, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5450 Win 7 Home Premium, 64 bit; just rolled back drivers, removed & reinstalled Java 64 bit; no help.
#342 [03:32] <xales> ??> john_doh win/reinst
#343 [03:32] <VoxelHead> john_doh: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#344 [03:32] <VoxelHead> john_doh: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#346 [03:33] <ShortGhost> xales are you still there?
#347 [03:33] <xales> indeed
#348 [03:33] <ShortGhost> I downloaded the new driver, still crashes
#349 [03:33] <john_doh> thanks - will try that.
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#351 [03:34] <xales> ShortGhost: Sorry, my memory fails me - can you describe the crash again?
#352 [03:35] <ShortGhost> I start up Minecraft, it will be allright for a few seconds. Then my screen will turn off, then turn on, Minecraft crashes, and i get an error saying that my display driver has crashed and recovered
#353 [03:35] <ShortGhost> Then you showed me the drivers to download @ NVIDIA and Asus website
#354 [03:35] <ShortGhost> still nothing works
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#356 [03:35] <xales> hm..
#357 [03:36] <xales> there is supposed to be an update Wednesday (tomorrow, depending on timezone)
#358 [03:36] <ShortGhost> When I was here the other day, someone mentioned something about deleting a "bin" folder, i don't know if that helps
#359 [03:36] <ShortGhost> Oh yeah, I just read that
#360 [03:36] <xales> which has a massive list of bug fixes..it may help with your issue
#361 [03:36] <xales> you could try deleting it, it probably won't help though..
#362 [03:36] <xales> ??> ShortGhost win/reinst
#363 [03:36] <VoxelHead> ShortGhost: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#364 [03:36] <VoxelHead> ShortGhost: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#365 [03:37] <ShortGhost> with the % signs?
#366 [03:37] <xales> yes
#367 [03:38] <ShortGhost> Okay, i'm going to try running it again now
#368 [03:39] <mr_flea> oh shit, hatches? hell yeah
#369 [03:40] <ShortGhost> Nope, didn't work
#370 [03:40] <ShortGhost> minecraft still crashed
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#414 [03:53] <VoxelHead> i like them =]
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#416 [03:57] <Identified> hey i need
#417 [03:57] <xales> You need?
#418 [03:58] <Identified> help i reinstalled minecraft beta
#419 [03:58] <Identified> and now i have no sound
#420 [03:58] <Identified> how do i fix it
#421 [03:58] <xales> Is it..muted?
#422 [03:58] <Identified> no
#423 [03:58] <xales> Does sound in _other_ things work?
#424 [03:58] <Identified> yeah
#425 [03:59] <xales> And Minecraft is not muted?
#426 [03:59] <Identified> no
#427 [03:59] <xales> Is that "no Minecraft is not muted" or "yes it is"
#428 [03:59] <Identified> no its not muted
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#430 [04:01] <Identified> i tried to install to many items mod
#431 [04:01] <xales> ._.
#432 [04:01] <xales> ??> Identified win/reinst
#433 [04:01] <VoxelHead> Identified: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#434 [04:01] <VoxelHead> Identified: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#436 [04:02] <Identified> ill have a shot
#437 [04:02] <VoxelHead> Mmm squiggy.
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#439 [04:04] <Identified> thankyou it worked
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#441 [04:04] <Identified> can you tell me how to install to many items mod
#442 [04:05] <xales> Follow the instructions?
#443 [04:05] <Identified> where are they
#444 [04:06] <Identified> can i please have the link
#445 [04:06] <xales> it's in the same place you find the download...
#446 [04:06] <xales> just google "minecraft toomanyitems"
#447 [04:06] <xales> ._.
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#458 [04:38] <john_doh> deleting the bin, resources & texture packs directories from the .minecraft directory worked (just deleting the bin directory didn't). Thanks!
#459 [04:39] <xales> no problem
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#466 [04:57] <caaksocker> is there an irc channel where you can discuss minecraft?
#467 [04:58] <xales> #minecraft usually ._.
#468 [04:59] <caaksocker> I tried it, it was completely silent, then I started talking about minecraft, then I got kicked... Is there somewhere else?
#469 [04:59] <xales> not really...why did you get kicked? ._.
#470 [04:59] <xales> oh
#471 [04:59] <caaksocker> some moderator didn't like my idea
#472 [05:00] <xales> no, I don't think that was it
#473 [05:00] <caaksocker> and nobody apparently want's to discuss it
#474 [05:00] <xales> then respect that and don't?
#475 [05:01] <caaksocker> well I really would love to talk to people about it. On forums I get 2 "great idea!" and then nothing... I feel this is an awesome idea but noone lets me explain...
#476 [05:02] <xales> if people in #minecraft don't want to talk about it, there is nothing you can do about that
#477 [05:03] <caaksocker> that's sad :(
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#480 [05:04] <garblesplee> ello?
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#489 [05:26] <frozen> how does one keep a redstone current running for, say, 30 to a minute?
#490 [05:26] <frozen> and for it to be turned off with a lever
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#494 [05:28] <bazkarfa> how long does it take for the minecraft taem to activate your account?
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#519 [07:55] <mib_66kzil> i need help
#520 [07:55] <_303> with what?
#521 [07:55] <mib_66kzil> when i log on my minecraft wont start
#522 [07:56] <mib_66kzil> i log on and it goes black then crashes
#523 [07:57] <mib_66kzil> can anybody help me?
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#525 [08:03] <SPaRT> daytime!
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#527 [08:05] <lemon-rev> mib_66kzil <
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#529 [08:07] <finefin> hi there
#530 [08:07] <lemon-rev> hi
#531 [08:09] <finefin> i know, the guys at mojang are very busy... but I'm really frustrated that the support is sooo slow... :(
#532 [08:09] <lemon-rev> hm
#533 [08:09] <lemon-rev> ok
#534 [08:09] <lemon-rev> anyways
#535 [08:09] <lemon-rev> whats the trouble
#536 [08:10] <finefin> I redeemed a gift-code some months ago and played a lot in multiplayer. but since saturday my status is "not premium"
#537 [08:11] <lemon-rev> hum
#538 [08:11] <finefin> dont know what to do. i twittered them, wrote on their facebook wall, opened a ticket on getSatisfaction and wrote a bunch of mails
#539 [08:11] <lemon-rev> ok, the gift code redeemed, did you buy your orgional code from mojang ?
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#541 [08:11] <Gurkenglas> How much will the powered rails boost in 1.6?
#542 [08:12] <finefin> someone bought it for me
#543 [08:12] <lemon-rev> gurkenglas dont ask stupid questions we dont work for mojang and i dont belive anyone here does
#544 [08:12] <finefin> its a gift code -> it was a gift
#545 [08:12] <Gurkenglas> well i think other people here asked this too and it could be that notch said it to one of them
#546 [08:12] <lemon-rev> finefin do you know where they brought it, from apparently there was other sites on the net attempting to do what minecraft.net was doing
#547 [08:13] <lemon-rev> so please make sure he payed on the propper site
#548 [08:13] <lemon-rev> first
#549 [08:13] <Gurkenglas> it appears btw that some people on the minecraft wiki get to chat with notch. is here somewhere on irc or what is it?
#550 [08:13] <finefin> well, yeah. i'm pretty sure it was purchased on minecraft.net
#551 [08:13] <lemon-rev> gurk look, i dont care presently wtf notch said , what ever comes in the next patch will be said via the wiki or via notch / dev's in twitter just keep to tabs with them
#552 [08:14] <Gurkenglas> "keep to tabs"?
#553 [08:14] <finefin> Gurkenglas: yeah, follow notch on twitter
#554 [08:14] <Gurkenglas> can i do that without a twitter account? :D
#555 [08:14] <lemon-rev> finefin , then all you can do is hope for the best, also try loggin into minecraft.net and just look at your account and see if theres still a code there or not
#556 [08:14] <lemon-rev> hm, gurk , give me tick
#557 [08:15] <lemon-rev> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam < try that
#558 [08:15] <lemon-rev> if you care
#559 [08:15] <lemon-rev> and no you dont need to log in, but its all out of kilter,
#560 [08:15] <lemon-rev> like i care
#561 [08:15] <Gurkenglas> kilter?
#562 [08:15] <lemon-rev> lol
#563 [08:15] <lemon-rev> a word i use quite a bit
#564 [08:16] <lemon-rev> means not in order
#565 [08:16] <Gurkenglas> out of not in order x)
#566 [08:16] <lemon-rev> from tweet to tweet
#567 [08:16] <finefin> my minecraft account says: "Are you one of the few who still haven't bought Minecraft?"
#568 [08:16] <lemon-rev> hm
#569 [08:16] <Gurkenglas> also, <Gurkenglas> it appears btw that some people on the minecraft wiki get to chat with notch. is here somewhere on irc or what is it?
#570 [08:16] <finefin> but I was able to change my skin and stuff. really frustrating...
#571 [08:17] <lemon-rev> ok, well sorry finefin but we in here cant do anymore than what you have already done, also maybe make a qury in minecraft.net fourms about it
#572 [08:17] <lemon-rev> gurk dude, notch i belive used to come here and chat
#573 [08:17] <lemon-rev> but no longer does
#574 [08:18] <finefin> and hey, as there are new payment methods available, i would even buy a new license. but who guarantees that it will be active for the rest of my life and NOT get "not premium" some day again?
#575 [08:19] <Gurkenglas> just to be sure, are all of us mad about minecarts no longer boosting each other?
#576 [08:20] <finefin> oh right. the minecraft forum. my last hope ;)
#577 [08:20] <finefin> gurke: not at all. I always thought that was an unlogical glitch
#578 [08:20] <lemon-rev> gurk i dont know or care for booster carts yet, in mc, please stop at it, when 1.6 comes out you will know what is in it, ok,
#579 [08:21] <Gurkenglas> on which servers do you play?
#580 [08:21] <lemon-rev> finefin, as it stands if you buy an account in beta now, you will get all updates and everything for free appart from your first purchase and will be premium for life, unless there database somehow gets currupted which i verry much hoep never happens
#581 [08:22] <lemon-rev> gurk theres millions of servers, you could make your own,
#582 [08:22] <lemon-rev> gurk mc fourms, look there for muliplayer server and see the great lists
#583 [08:22] <lemon-rev> but theres no offical servers for mc
#584 [08:22] <Gurkenglas> i know there are many servers, i asked on which ones you guys play on
#585 [08:23] <lemon-rev> i play on one ocaionally when i have free time atm, on a guy in nz thats asked me to join hes, but thats just me
#586 [08:25] <finefin> lemon: but the same would take effect when a gift code was redeemed, right?
#587 [08:25] <SPaRT> hey Gurkenglas , wir spielen auf nem 4-6 mann server zur zeit
#588 [08:25] <SPaRT> kollege hostet und wir joinen nach ^^
#589 [08:25] <lemon-rev> correct finefin, how long has this troubled you though,
#590 [08:25] <lemon-rev> ?
#591 [08:25] <Gurkenglas> link?
#592 [08:26] <SPaRT> zur zeit nicht up
#593 [08:26] <SPaRT> später ^^
#594 [08:26] <Gurkenglas> kk
#595 [08:26] <SPaRT> pm?
#596 [08:26] <finefin> lemon: like an eternity - 4 days :D
#597 [08:26] <Gurkenglas> "pm"?
#598 [08:26] <SPaRT> private message
#599 [08:27] <SPaRT> hab n privatchat aufgemacht
#600 [08:27] <SPaRT> so we can speak german over there ;)
#601 [08:27] <lemon-rev> hm, finefin, < could provide some alternative like terreria :P
#602 [08:27] <finefin> thats the 2D clone, is it?
#603 [08:27] <lemon-rev> lol if you say so
#604 [08:27] <lemon-rev> yes
#605 [08:28] <finefin> not an option, haha
#606 [08:28] <lemon-rev> whatnot
#607 [08:28] <lemon-rev> fine
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#615 [09:07] <Taz605> How do i find out my sever i.p for ppl to use?
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#617 [09:08] <finefin> it's *your* IP, taz
#618 [09:08] <finefin> (if you're hosting)
#619 [09:08] <Taz605> my ipv4 address?
#620 [09:08] <Taz605> what i would use to get into my router?
#621 [09:08] <finefin> yeah
#622 [09:09] <finefin> erm.. no
#623 [09:09] <Taz605> right thanks mate
#624 [09:09] <Taz605> i see what one i'm on about
#625 [09:10] <finefin> http://whatismyipaddress.com
#626 [09:10] <finefin> that one ;)
#627 [09:10] <Taz605> ahhh
#628 [09:10] <Taz605> thanks
#629 [09:14] <Taz605> My friend got this when he tryed to connect "connection timed out: connect" that his side or my side?
#630 [09:14] <_303> what's the ip?
#631 [09:14] <_303> say !check the.ip.address
#632 [09:15] <Taz605> with port?
#633 [09:15] <_303> I guess
#634 [09:15] <Taz605> !check 82.32.177.116:25565
#635 [09:15] <_303> ports forwarded etc?
#636 [09:16] <Taz605> checking that now
#637 [09:18] <Taz605> fixxed it
#638 [09:18] <Taz605> was using an old i.p
#639 [09:18] <_303> try !check again
#640 [09:18] <Taz605> !check 82.32.177.116:25565
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#642 [09:27] <helpme> hey any1 in here feel generous and helpful?
#643 [09:27] <xales> ?? ask
#644 [09:27] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#645 [09:27] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#646 [09:29] <helpme> ok well i have minecraft downloaded and i have played it for about 15 hours so far, i did a system back up recently, now it removed minecraft, so i downloaded it again, it lets me log in then it goes to a black screen and wont load from then
#647 [09:29] <xales> ??> helpme win/reinst
#648 [09:29] <VoxelHead> helpme: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#649 [09:29] <VoxelHead> helpme: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#650 [09:29] <helpme> sweet cheers for that ill give it a go
#651 [09:33] <frozen> anyone here a redstone whiz
#652 [09:34] <helpme> thanks got it going =)
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#658 [09:48] <kermit> hi
#659 [09:48] <xales> Hello.
#660 [09:49] <kermit> tell me, how can I play minecraft.. because I've installed the game and it doesn't work ; /
#661 [09:49] <xales> How does it "not work"
#662 [09:50] <kermit> i need accout yeah? so, I created one. and the text is: you're not premium
#663 [09:50] <kermit> and that's it
#664 [09:50] <xales> You have to buy it
#665 [09:50] <kermit> hah nice
#666 [09:51] <kermit> ok i thought it's free
#667 [09:51] <kermit> thanks, bye! :D
#668 [09:51] <xales> Classic is free, beta is now
#669 [09:51] <xales> not*
#670 [09:51] <kermit> how do I get classic?
#671 [09:51] <xales> right underneath the link to beta
#672 [09:51] <kermit> i don't know were download that ; (
#673 [09:51] <xales> "Play Minecraft Classic (Outdated, but free):"
#674 [09:51] <xales> you don't download it
#675 [09:52] <xales> you have to play it in the browser
#676 [09:52] <xales> http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp
#677 [09:52] <kermit> aaaa okk thank you very much
#678 [09:52] <kermit> bye
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#686 [10:35] <xarcus> hej
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#689 [10:36] <rdococ> Hi.
#690 [10:36] <xarcus> hi
#691 [10:36] <rdococ> I need your notice; Minecraft is actually made by Notch, not Mojang.
#692 [10:38] <oldtopmanserver> nope!
#693 [10:38] <oldtopmanserver> Take a look at the credits.
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#695 [10:39] <Kealper> rdococ: Notch has done most of the work, but recently he has had Jeb (Jens) help with things, and he is also using some freely-available libraries for some things
#696 [10:40] <rdococ> But, it was first started by Notch. End of story.
#697 [10:41] <rdococ> End of story.
#698 [10:41] <Kealper> rdococ: that still doesn't account for all the external libraries Minecraft is using
#699 [10:41] <rdococ> Wait, ain't Jens a man who created something who made BYOB?
#700 [10:41] <rdococ> Oops... wrong wording.
#701 [10:42] <rdococ> I mean: Wait, isn't Jens a man who created BYOB?
#702 [10:42] <Kealper> BYOB?
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#705 [10:42] <Kealper> rdococ: he's the guy doing a lot of work on a game called Cobalt (i think?)
#706 [10:43] <rdococ> No...
#707 [10:44] * Kealper looks it up
#707 [10:45] <amphibulus> will not download
#708 [10:45] <Kealper> Jens works at both Mojang and Oxeye Games, and works on Scrolls (at Mojang, used to do work on Minecraft) and Cobalt (at Oxeye Games)
#709 [10:46] <amphibulus> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe - this will not work
#710 [10:46] <Kealper> amphibulus: what does it do when you try to run it?
#711 [10:48] <amphibulus> asks if i want to save - i click yes and it then states it can not be downloaded
#712 [10:48] <Kealper> amphibulus: do you have any other computers in your house that you can try it on? (to see if it's a problem with your computer or your internet)
#713 [10:49] <amphibulus> I will try another and get back on
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#720 [10:59] <Glycan> How do you mke it run on linux?
#721 [10:59] <Glycan> (mint)
#722 [10:59] <Kealper> run minecraft.jar
#723 [10:59] <Kealper> !client
#724 [10:59] <Glycan> Doesn't work.
#725 [10:59] <Kealper> what does it do?
#726 [10:59] <Kealper> (or lack thereof)
#727 [11:00] <Glycan> Hang on.
#728 [11:00] <Glycan> Oh, wait.
#729 [11:00] <Glycan> Yup.
#730 [11:00] <Kealper> O.o?
#731 [11:00] <Glycan> It doesn't work.
#732 [11:00] <Glycan> :p
#733 [11:00] <Kealper> ?? specific
#734 [11:00] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#735 [11:00] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#736 [11:01] <Glycan> I know.
#737 [11:01] <Glycan> I joke.
#738 [11:01] <Glycan> Wait, this is voxel? Cool.
#739 [11:01] <Glycan> I log in (or play offline, makes no diffrence), and get a black screen of death.
#740 [11:01] <Glycan> Death optionnal.
#741 [11:02] <Glycan> Oh, and the scren flikers a bit.
#742 [11:02] <Kealper> ok, start it in a terminal window, that will output debug info detailing the crash
#743 [11:02] <Glycan> Yes.
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#745 [11:02] <Kealper> just cd to minecraft.jar's dir and do java -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#746 [11:03] <Glycan> I tryed the command they gave, it sayd somethi=g about not having something.
#747 [11:03] <Glycan> I'll check.
#748 [11:03] <Glycan> Oh, yeah, it said it doesn't have launcher frame.
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#750 [11:03] <Kealper> what minecraft.jar are you running?
#751 [11:03] <Glycan> Er...?
#752 [11:03] <Glycan> How am I supposed to know?
#753 [11:03] <Kealper> the one in ~/.minecraft/bin or the one you downloaded?
#754 [11:03] <Glycan> I downlaoded it yesterday.
#755 [11:03] <Glycan> The one I downlaoded.
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#757 [11:03] <Kealper> ok, carry on
#758 [11:04] <Glycan> Wait, there's a minecraft respo?
#759 [11:04] <Glycan> cool.
#760 [11:04] <Kealper> eh? no
#761 [11:04] <Glycan> Aww.
#762 [11:04] <Glycan> That'd be cool.
#763 [11:04] <Kealper> well...yes, but for the sake of this channel, no >.>
#764 [11:04] <Glycan> ?
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#766 [11:05] <Glycan> It pauses....
#767 [11:05] <Glycan> And makes the login window.
#768 [11:05] <Kealper> yeah, that's what it's supposed to do...log in
#769 [11:05] <Glycan> Hang on.
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#771 [11:05] <Glycan> Black screen.
#772 [11:05] <Kealper> when it gets to the game it will throw crap into the terminal window
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#774 [11:05] <Glycan> Terminal says...
#775 [11:05] <Glycan> Hang on.
#776 [11:05] <Kealper> wait!
#777 [11:05] <Kealper> Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
#778 [11:06] <Glycan> I'm not stupid. What do you think I was doing?
#779 [11:07] <Kealper> i have low expectations for this channel
#780 [11:07] <Glycan> Oh.
#781 [11:07] <Glycan> Hang on.
#782 [11:07] <Glycan> This is on another computer, I have to get xchat to espernet.
#783 [11:07] <Glycan> It's irc.espernet.org, yes?
#784 [11:07] <Kealper> irc.esper.net
#785 [11:07] <johndoe> hi, my system is running on ubuntu 10.10 and i have the open java jre installed but when i log into minecraft it crashes with a black screen. any suggestions?
#786 [11:07] <Glycan> Cool.
#787 [11:08] <Kealper> johndoe: has it ever worked before?
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#789 [11:08] <johndoe> nope :(
#790 [11:08] <glycan_> http://pastebin.com/m1dVgW1P
#791 [11:08] <Glycan> Here we go.
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#793 [11:09] <johndoe> but on my laptop with ubuntu 10.10 it works. -.-
#794 [11:09] <Kealper> johndoe: run minecraft.jar though a terminal window with java -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#795 [11:09] <Kealper> Glycan: do you have an ati card?
#796 [11:10] <Glycan> ?
#797 [11:10] <Kealper> Glycan: is your graphics card made by ATI?
#798 [11:10] <johndoe> thanks! brb
#799 [11:10] <Glycan> I don't know.
#800 [11:10] <Glycan> Hang on...
#801 [11:11] <Glycan> I hate new OSes.
#802 [11:11] <Kealper> Mint isn't new ._.
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#804 [11:11] <Kealper> unless you mean new to you lol
#805 [11:11] <Glycan> Duh.
#806 [11:11] <adamkex> hey, i know how to create a normal SMP server, but i can't find instructions on how to build a creative server?
#807 [11:11] <Glycan> Of course that's what I ment.
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#809 [11:12] <Kealper> adamkex: you have to use different server software to make a creative server
#810 [11:12] <Glycan> I give up. Where is it
#811 [11:12] <Glycan> ?
#812 [11:12] <Kealper> Glycan: what's the model of computer you have?
#813 [11:13] <Glycan> Toshbia satellite
#814 [11:13] <adamkex> Kealper: where can i find that?
#815 [11:13] <Glycan> bukkit?
#816 [11:13] <Kealper> adamkex: give me a sec, i'll get it for you
#817 [11:13] <Kealper> Glycan: i need the exact model, not just satellite
#818 [11:13] <Shayd> eh minecraft isn't fun as on beginning
#819 [11:13] <adamkex> Kealper: okay thanks
#820 [11:14] <Glycan> Um.
#821 [11:14] <Shayd> Creeper wait at the entrance, one explosion blows up whole underground shelter
#822 [11:14] <Kealper> adamkex: http://www.minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip
#823 [11:14] <ellisgeek> i am modifing the minecraft server startup script from the wiki to add say functionality but i am running in to problems with a bash if statment the moded script can be found here: http://pastebin.com/Cv6k4UDU
#824 [11:14] <adamkex> Kealper: thanks :)
#825 [11:14] <Kealper> adamkex: place that in a completely separate folder from your beta server, as they are not compatible with eachother
#826 [11:15] <Glycan> I h ave no idea.
#827 [11:15] <glycan_> Where would that be?
#828 [11:15] <Kealper> Glycan: it'll probably be on the bottom, somewhere near the "Genuine Windows blah blah" sticker
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#830 [11:15] <glycan_> Geniune? Why would I have anythign geniune?
#831 [11:15] <Kealper> alternatively
#832 [11:15] <glycan_> :p
#833 [11:16] <glycan_> Han gon
#834 [11:16] <Kealper> does your computer have an AMD or Intel CPU?
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#836 [11:16] <glycan_> AMD, yes.
#837 [11:16] <glycan_> Oh, wait, ATI grafics.
#838 [11:16] <Kealper> then it's probably ati
#839 [11:16] <Kealper> yeah..lol
#840 [11:16] <Glycan> It said so on top the whole time!
#841 [11:16] <glycan_> :p
#842 [11:17] <adamkex> Kealper: thanks :)
#843 [11:17] <Kealper> ??> glycan_ gpu/amd/solution
#844 [11:17] <VoxelHead> glycan_: (gpu/amd/solution) We have a potential fix for Minecraft crashes with ATI/AMD CPUs and the closed-source driver. Try running Minecraft thusly:
#845 [11:17] <VoxelHead> glycan_: (gpu/amd/solution) `env LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 java -jar /path/to/the/minecraft.jar`
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#847 [11:17] <ellisgeek> i am modifing the minecraft server startup script from the wiki to add say functionality but i am running in to problems with a bash if statment the moded script can be found here: http://pastebin.com/Cv6k4UDU
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#849 [11:18] <Kealper> ellisgeek: which line is throwing the error?
#850 [11:19] <ellisgeek> line 167 always thrwos the please type a message string that i have
#851 [11:19] <ellisgeek> not the actual say line
#852 [11:19] <glycan_> That give the follwoing: env LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 java -jar /path/to/the/minecraft.jar
#853 [11:19] <glycan_> Opps.
#854 [11:19] <glycan_> http://pastebin.com/RNS4EJ6z
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#856 [11:20] <Kealper> ellisgeek: you are doing "say sometext" and not just "sometext" right?
#857 [11:21] <ellisgeek> no it should only need to accept the text that needs saying not the command it self
#858 [11:21] <Kealper> bleh...i don't know bash so i can only help with general debugging....
#859 [11:22] <ellisgeek> ok
#860 [11:22] <Glycan> ..er?
#861 [11:22] <Kealper> what is $2 supposed to be? the second CLI param? or the whole raw CLI string?
#862 [11:23] <Kealper> because on line 207 it says the usage is "say message" and not just "message" :/
#863 [11:23] <Kealper> Glycan: i'm not sure then....the AMD (ATI) drivers for Linux are notoriously bad for 3d graphics
#864 [11:24] <Glycan> Really?
#865 [11:24] <Glycan> Oh well.
#866 [11:24] <Glycan> Can I run the server of linux well?
#867 [11:24] <ellisgeek> i copied the actual say line (it's the one under else) from the same script and addes the magic bash variable $2 (secont input ex cp file1 **file2** < thats $2) for the text to say
#868 [11:24] <Glycan> bukkit server
#869 [11:24] <Kealper> Glycan: yeah, the server runs great on linux
#870 [11:24] <Glycan> Okay.
#871 [11:24] <Glycan> Thanks.
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#873 [11:25] <Kealper> ellisgeek: oh, then i guess i can't be of help on this....it looks fine to my limited knowledge of bash :/
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#875 [11:26] <Shayd> Anyone knows site with maps to download?
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#877 [11:26] <ellisgeek> the script is called as /etc/init.d/minecraft say(first input $1 used for case statement) message(second input $2 message to say)
#878 [11:26] <Shayd> Im too lazy to learn by....learning
#879 [11:26] <Kealper> ._.
#880 [11:26] <Kealper> Shayd: google knows
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#882 [11:26] <Shayd> nope
#883 [11:26] <Shayd> Google has no idea
#884 [11:27] <adamkex> glycan_: what do you need help with?
#885 [11:27] <Kealper> Shayd: i'm not even going to try and hide the url on this http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minecraft+map+downloads
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#887 [11:28] <Shayd> curse you straight to hell
#888 [11:28] <_303> http://bit.ly/kiSIiq
#889 [11:28] <_303> ~title
#890 [11:28] <_303> anyway, master map list on the forums
#891 [11:29] <adamkex> ellisgeek: write your own script :D
#892 [11:29] <Kealper> aubot, tell me the title of that url, or i will delete this feature from your code
#893 [11:29] <Kealper> that's it, i'm deleteing it >.>
#894 [11:29] <ellisgeek> loooool but someone alredy did all the work 4 me :D
#895 [11:31] <adamkex> ellisgeek: just add minecraft in a screen session in some local script
#896 [11:31] <adamkex> ellisgeek: then you can access it whenever you want to
#897 [11:31] <Shayd> Whoever posted that link is retard
#898 [11:32] <adamkex> ellisgeek: that init script is overkill, it might not even work on all distros
#899 [11:32] <Kealper> Shayd: i'd prefer if you refrained from such language :/
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#902 [11:34] <ellisgeek> this was the script that is on the minecraft wiki and read the pastebin
#903 [11:35] <ellisgeek> it is in a screen
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#907 [11:38] <falalala> hello
#908 [11:38] <falalala> ?
#909 [11:39] <Kealper> deck the halls with boughs of holly
#910 [11:39] <falalala> any1 know why i got a black screen when i log in at mc ?
#911 [11:39] <Kealper> falalala:
#912 [11:39] <Kealper> uhh, that can be caused by numerous things
#913 [11:39] <falalala> thinks uts java
#914 [11:39] <falalala> its*
#915 [11:39] <Shayd> Wow! Minecraft so sucks!
#916 [11:40] <Kealper> Shayd: this is not #MinecraftComplaintDepartment
#917 [11:40] <Kealper> Shayd: if you don't need help, and don't have anything constructive to say, please leave
#918 [11:40] <Kealper> falalala: has it worked before?
#919 [11:40] <falalala> well when i log in its loads but the every thing just gets black
#920 [11:40] <falalala> yeah
#921 [11:41] <falalala> but after 1.3-1.5 i havent been avabile to play
#922 [11:42] <Kealper> falalala: are you trying to play in the browser or the downloaded client?
#923 [11:42] <falalala> doesent work
#924 [11:43] <Kealper> falalala: i'll assume you meant you tried both
#925 [11:43] <falalala> yes
#926 [11:43] <falalala> and its just black.
#927 [11:43] <Kealper> ok then, try playing it in the browser...when it goes black and stops working, leave it on that screen and tell me
#928 [11:43] <Kealper> i will tell you what to do to get info about why it's not wokring
#929 [11:43] <Kealper> working*
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#931 [11:44] <falalala> sec
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#933 [11:44] <falalala> nothing happends its just black
#934 [11:45] <Kealper> falalala: but you still have the browser open on that page, right?
#935 [11:45] <falalala> yes
#936 [11:45] <Kealper> look in the bottom right of your screen, near the computer clock...do you see a little white coffee cup icon?
#937 [11:45] <falalala> java ? yes
#938 [11:45] <Kealper> right click that and select to open the console
#939 [11:46] <Kealper> (not the control panel, the console)
#940 [11:46] <falalala> ok?
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#942 [11:46] <Kealper> got the console open?
#943 [11:47] <falalala> yeah
#944 [11:47] <Kealper> press the "Copy" button
#945 [11:47] <Kealper> Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
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#947 [11:47] <Kealper> paste it into that site that i just spammed lol
#948 [11:47] <falalala> ok
#949 [11:48] <Kealper> and then give the URL to that paste in here
#950 [11:48] <falalala> i dont got it :S
#951 [11:48] <Kealper> it is in the address bar at the top of the browser
#952 [11:49] <Kealper> just copy it out of there and put it in here
#953 [11:49] <falalala> http://pastebin.com/nsCxQucJ
#954 [11:49] <falalala> ?
#955 [11:49] <falalala> or
#956 [11:49] <Kealper> that was correct
#957 [11:50] <Kealper> hmm...is that all that was in the java console?
#958 [11:50] <falalala> yes
#959 [11:50] <Kealper> there is no error showing ._.
#960 [11:50] <Kealper> meh...
#961 [11:51] <Kealper> have you tried deleting everything out of %appdata%\.minecraft except the "saves" folder?
#962 [11:51] <falalala> yes
#963 [11:51] <falalala> same with java
#964 [11:51] <Kealper> and it has worked before on that exact same computer?
#965 [11:52] <Kealper> also brb real fast
#966 [11:52] <falalala> yes
#967 [11:53] <Kealper> ok back
#968 [11:54] <falalala> welcome back
#969 [11:54] <Kealper> do you have any antivirus software installed?
#970 [11:54] <falalala> Telia
#971 [11:54] <Kealper> that's an ISP, isn't it ._.
#972 [11:55] <falalala> no idea:S
#973 [11:55] <Kealper> yeah, that's your ISP, not your antivirus software lol
#974 [11:55] <Kealper> well...can you think of anything that might have changed when it started not working?
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#976 [11:57] <falalala> i got no idead tbh
#977 [11:57] <Kealper> hmm....
#978 [11:57] <Kealper> ?? win/profile
#979 [11:57] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#980 [11:57] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#981 [11:58] <falalala> ok
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#983 [11:59] <mib_su9pg3> hello
#984 [11:59] <mib_su9pg3> is there someone who could help me?
#985 [11:59] <finefin> ask and you should know
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#987 [12:00] <mib_su9pg3> i just found this game, i want to test the classic version
#988 [12:00] <mib_su9pg3> i registered already
#989 [12:00] <mib_su9pg3> but i cant start a game in single player mode
#990 [12:01] <mib_su9pg3> cuzz it said that i do not have Java, but i already installed it
#991 [12:01] <julianbtje> hi everybody i bought minecraft a few hours ago but in my banking acc it says that its a reserved transaction ?? can someone help me with that
#992 [12:01] <finefin> you want to play in your browser, mib?
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#994 [12:02] <mib_su9pg3> yes thats right, i just wanna test first, if i like it i would buy it
#995 [12:02] <mib_su9pg3> i read that the browser classic version is free
#996 [12:02] <mib_cbroxb> upgraded our pc now can't run minecraft
#997 [12:02] <finefin> have you enabled java in your browser?
#998 [12:02] <Kealper> julianbtje: the transaction has probably not cleared on Mojang's end yet
#999 [12:02] <mib_su9pg3> how do i do that? i got mozilla firefox
#1000 [12:03] <julianbtje> ok i'l wait
#1001 [12:03] <julianbtje> tnx kealper :P
#1002 [12:04] <mib_cbroxb> have enabled java but won't log in sent new password etc, any ideas thanks
#1003 [12:04] <Kealper> julianbtje: if it has been more than a day and it is still doing that, come back in here and either me or other regulars in here can advise you on what to do
#1004 [12:05] <julianbtje> ok tnx i hope its up and running tommorow
#1005 [12:06] <julianbtje> oh wait i forgot something
#1006 [12:06] * Kealper has to go, and will be back in a few hours :/
#1006 [12:06] <mib_su9pg3> ok i actived java
#1007 [12:06] <mib_su9pg3> but i still got the same problem
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#1009 [12:07] <julianbtje> when i was at moneybookers its says i had an error or some ??
#1010 [12:09] <finefin> su9pg3: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Using%20the%20Java%20plugin%20with%20Firefox?s=java&as=s
#1011 [12:09] <finefin> take a look at the troubleshooting section
#1012 [12:10] <mib_su9pg3> thx
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#1014 [12:14] <sarahg> I have just bought minecraft on this computer...didnt realise download. Thought was buying a disc!!! Can I transfer to our bigger and faster computer instead of this slow laptop ?
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#1016 [12:14] <SPaRT> you can play on every computer you want to and download it a million times if you wanna ;)
#1017 [12:14] <sarahg> oh ok thanks
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#1019 [12:16] <MagicHereos> hello
#1020 [12:16] <MagicHereos> I gotta error in my server.log
#1021 [12:16] <MagicHereos> java.net.SocketException: Broken pipe
#1022 [12:16] <MagicHereos> and then server crashs
#1023 [12:16] <MagicHereos> why?
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#1027 [12:18] <SPaRT> hmmm
#1028 [12:18] <SPaRT> good question
#1029 [12:18] <SPaRT> did u update your java?
#1030 [12:18] <SPaRT> i mean, did u install it properly?
#1031 [12:19] <MagicHereos> I think I did
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#1033 [12:20] <SPaRT> tbh i have no idea what's the problem though :-/
#1034 [12:21] <hENdrick> Hi I need your help, I'm coming with all the payment methods of Minecraft not clear
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#1036 [12:21] <hENdrick> sry for the bad english
#1037 [12:21] <hENdrick> ^^
#1038 [12:21] <SPaRT> german?
#1039 [12:21] <SPaRT> :P
#1040 [12:22] <hENdrick> yes
#1041 [12:22] <SPaRT> womit hast du probleme?
#1042 [12:22] <hENdrick> ich verstehe das mit dem bezahlen nicht und wenn ich das nicht verstehen dann meine eltern auch nit ^^
#1043 [12:23] <SPaRT> hast du n paypal account?
#1044 [12:24] <hENdrick> habe klappt aber auch nit wie ich will bin ers 15 ne ^^ :P
#1045 [12:24] <SPaRT> das war jetzt unklar, hast du paypal oder nicht?
#1046 [12:24] <hENdrick> ja habe
#1047 [12:24] <SPaRT> na dann ist es doch saueinfach
#1048 [12:25] <SPaRT> wählst als zahlungsmethode paypal aus und klickst dich durch
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#1052 [12:29] <SPaRT> klappt?
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#1054 [12:29] * VoxelHead awakens
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#1055 [12:31] <Wammus> Hey, I bought Minecraft via iDeal (Moneybookers) yesterday, but I'm still not premium. The money is charged, what's the average delay?
#1056 [12:31] <hENdrick> ne mom ich muss erst sowas machen
#1057 [12:32] <hENdrick> Aktivieren Sie Ihr Bankkonto jetzt für Lastschriftzahlungen. Bestätigen Sie uns dafür kurz, dass Sie der rechtmäßige Inhaber des unten angegebenen Bankkontos sind. (Warum?) Wir haben Ihnen dafür bereits zwei Beträge auf Ihr Bankkonto überwiesen. Geben Sie diese bitte hier ein:
#1058 [12:32] <hENdrick> aber hab kb jerz zur bank
#1059 [12:32] <Wammus> Uhmm, I'm dutch, not German, sorry...
#1060 [12:32] <hENdrick> ^^ iam speak with SPaRT
#1061 [12:33] <Wammus> Ahh, sorry :P
#1062 [12:33] <hENdrick> np
#1063 [12:33] <SPaRT> yeah ok, d.h. du musst auf deinen kontoauszug gucken, die haben dir 2 beträge überiwesen, da steht was dabei, das musst du jetzt bei paypal eingeben
#1064 [12:33] <SPaRT> sonst können die nicht abbuchen
#1065 [12:33] <hENdrick> ok
#1066 [12:35] <hENdrick> aber dann muss ich mir est alteren kontoauszug holen ^^
#1067 [12:35] <hENdrick> Ãœberweisung anVolksbank Baumberge (xxxx ) am 1. Januar 2011
#1068 [12:35] <hENdrick> xD
#1069 [12:37] <SPaRT> ^^
#1070 [12:37] <VoxelHead> :-)
#1071 [12:37] <SPaRT> keine details hier bitte ^^
#1072 [12:39] <hENdrick> ist ja xxxx :P
#1073 [12:39] <hENdrick> man sieht nur meien bank
#1074 [12:39] <hENdrick> ^^
#1075 [12:39] <VoxelHead> -_-
#1076 [12:40] <Wammus> VoxelHead. do you know how long you must wait until premium is activated?
#1077 [12:40] <VoxelHead> Only on Wednesdays.
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#1079 [12:41] <mib_qqypyy> I need assistance with running the game in my browser
#1080 [12:42] <Wammus> I mean, I bought it, but I still ain't got premium status. i bought it yesterday with iDeal (moneybookers).
#1081 [12:43] <mib_qqypyy> I decided to buy Minecraft and not I get a Java signature not verified message then it goes straight to a white screen. Any fixes?
#1082 [12:43] <Wammus> Could you post a screenshot ?
#1083 [12:43] <Wammus> Or give*
#1084 [12:43] <finefin> Wammus: it takes some days sometimes. there are users in the forum who say that they wait for months...
#1085 [12:43] <mib_qqypyy> one moment
#1086 [12:44] <Wammus> Ouch, thanks fineffin.
#1087 [12:44] <finefin> mojang really need to sort out their payment issues. it's a pain in the ass, if you ask me
#1088 [12:45] <Wammus> Indeed, I bought the game because I wanted to play it, waiting sucks :p
#1089 [12:46] <finefin> some say, the fastest way is to buy a gift code and use it on your own account
#1090 [12:46] <mib_qqypyy> this happens first
#1091 [12:46] <mib_qqypyy> http://www.flickr.com/photos/twisted_sith/5755536982/in/photostream
#1092 [12:46] <Wammus> Yeah, but, I already bought it :P I have filled in a form on the Support page on the official site, hope that will help.
#1093 [12:46] <mib_qqypyy> then this
#1094 [12:46] <mib_qqypyy> http://www.flickr.com/photos/twisted_sith/5755538058/in/photostream/
#1095 [12:47] <mib_qqypyy> And it is frustrating.
#1096 [12:47] <Wammus> You clicked allow?
#1097 [12:47] <mib_qqypyy> indeed
#1098 [12:47] <Wammus> You updated Java?
#1099 [12:47] <finefin> knock on wood, wammus
#1100 [12:47] <VoxelHead> i don't wanna.... ok
#1101 [12:47] <mib_qqypyy> yes I did
#1102 [12:47] <Wammus> Knock on wood?
#1103 [12:47] <VoxelHead> hi floor... make me a sandwich
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#1105 [12:48] <finefin> means "good luck" ;)
#1106 [12:48] <Wammus> Delete the .minecraft folder and try again.
#1107 [12:48] <Wammus> Ahh, thanks, finefin :P
#1108 [12:48] <weirdo> help
#1109 [12:48] <mib_qqypyy> trying now
#1110 [12:49] <weirdo> can you help if it says bad video when all updates are the best possible?
#1111 [12:49] <weirdo> bad video car
#1112 [12:49] <weirdo> d
#1113 [12:49] <Wammus> You've got an OpenGL video card?
#1114 [12:49] <weirdo> i dont know
#1115 [12:49] <Wammus> Look it up ;-)
#1116 [12:50] <weirdo> how?
#1117 [12:50] <Wammus> What OS do you have?
#1118 [12:50] <finefin> youre on a mac, right?
#1119 [12:50] <weirdo> no windows
#1120 [12:50] <weirdo> 7
#1121 [12:50] <Wammus> Ahhh
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#1123 [12:50] <Glycan> Hello.
#1124 [12:50] <mib_qqypyy> Not even going to pretend I know where to find the minecraft folder. This is all in my browser and I have never even played it.
#1125 [12:51] <Wammus> Uhmmm
#1126 [12:51] <Glycan> How do I set up a hamchii server on mint?
#1127 [12:51] <Wammus> Wait a second, mib
#1128 [12:51] <mib_qqypyy> Alright.
#1129 [12:51] <Glycan> linuxmint
#1130 [12:51] <weirdo> so what do i do cause i looked all over youtube and nothing works
#1131 [12:52] <weirdo> for my video card problem
#1132 [12:52] <Wammus> Mib, users>myaccount>library>appsupport
#1133 [12:52] <Glycan> Kealper?
#1134 [12:52] <Wammus> There you will find a .minecraft folder.
#1135 [12:52] <finefin> have you the latest video drivers installed, weirdo?
#1136 [12:52] <weirdo> yeah
#1137 [12:53] <weirdo> i got my laptop sunday
#1138 [12:53] <Wammus> Glycan, have you opened the port 25565?
#1139 [12:53] <weirdo> :how do i tell im new to laptops
#1140 [12:54] <finefin> that your laptop is new doesnt mean that your drivers are up-to-date
#1141 [12:54] <Wammus> weirdo, Right click on desktop select Properties >> Settings >> Advanced >> Adapter and you will see what type of graphics card the computer has.
#1142 [12:54] <weirdo> i cant on windows 7
#1143 [12:54] <mib_qqypyy> I have deleted, Should I attempt to run the game again?
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#1145 [12:54] <Wammus> Yes
#1146 [12:54] <Wammus> But, why don't you download the launcher?
#1147 [12:55] <weirdo> me?
#1148 [12:55] <Wammus> No, mib
#1149 [12:55] <weirdo> kk
#1150 [12:56] <mib_qqypyy> damn. It looked like it was going to work then white screen'd me again
#1151 [12:57] <weirdo> same what happens to me-->
#1152 [12:57] <weirdo> :/
#1153 [12:57] <mib_qqypyy> I was under the impression the only way to play multiplayer was through the browser, but I could be wrong
#1154 [12:57] <Wammus> Also in the launcher.
#1155 [12:57] <Wammus> Just press multiplayer when logged in ;-)
#1156 [12:57] <mib_qqypyy> Hold on
#1157 [12:58] <weirdo> wammus i dont know how to fix the poblem
#1158 [12:58] <mib_qqypyy> Well I feel like less of an intellectual now. Thank you Wammus, you have been of great assistance.
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#1160 [12:59] <Wammus> You welcome ;-)
#1161 [12:59] <weirdo> wammus what do i do with the video card
#1162 [13:00] <weirdo> it just comes up with errors
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#1164 [13:02] <Jbuch> Hi
#1165 [13:03] <Wammus> Hi
#1166 [13:03] <Jbuch> Hello?
#1167 [13:03] <Jbuch> oh hi
#1168 [13:03] <Jbuch> i got a problem
#1169 [13:03] <Jbuch> its about a bad video card
#1170 [13:03] <Jbuch> can u help?
#1171 [13:04] <Jbuch> ...
#1172 [13:04] <Wammus> Maybe
#1173 [13:04] <Wammus> Uhmm, what's the name of your driver card?
#1174 [13:04] <Jbuch> cause every time i go on it a white screen goes white
#1175 [13:04] <Jbuch> how do i tell
#1176 [13:05] <Wammus> What OS do you have?
#1177 [13:05] <Jbuch> win7 premium
#1178 [13:05] <Wammus> Right click on desktop select Properties >> Settings >> Advanced >> Adapter and you will see what type of graphics card the computer has.
#1179 [13:06] <Jbuch> it dont have a properties
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#1181 [13:07] <bread> Win Key -> Right click My Computer -> Device Manager -> Look for 'Display Adapter'
#1182 [13:07] <Wammus> What language do you have installed?
#1183 [13:07] <Glycan> Sorry.
#1184 [13:08] <Glycan> So how do you make bukkit servers work?
#1185 [13:08] <bread> Glycan, #bukkit
#1186 [13:08] <Glycan> On linux.
#1187 [13:08] <bread> #bukkit
#1188 [13:08] <bread> i.e. we don't deal with Bukkit issues
#1189 [13:08] <Glycan> I understand.
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#1191 [13:09] <Jbuch> english
#1192 [13:09] <Morrolan> Jbuch: Right click My computer, and in the popup menu should be a properties entry.
#1193 [13:10] <Jbuch> im on display
#1194 [13:10] <Jbuch> is that any good
#1195 [13:10] <Jbuch> i know what i got 1 sec
#1196 [13:11] <Jbuch> sis mirage 3 graphics
#1197 [13:13] <Jbuch> im on prpoerties
#1198 [13:13] <Jbuch> now what
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#1200 [13:14] <Wammus> Then click on Device Manager on the left
#1201 [13:15] <Jbuch> done
#1202 [13:15] <Wammus> Then the first one is your video card.
#1203 [13:16] <Jbuch> what do u mean
#1204 [13:16] <Wammus> You have the list, right?
#1205 [13:17] <Jbuch> yes
#1206 [13:17] <Wammus> The upper one, double click it, and you see the name of your video card driver.
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#1209 [13:18] <Jbuch> my graphics is SiS Mirage 3 graphics
#1210 [13:18] <lolowia4> I got this error
#1211 [13:18] <lolowia4> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 24/05/11 19:10 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.5_01 OS: Linux (i386) version 2.6.38-8-generic Java: 1.6.0_24, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode, sharing), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)] java.lang.IllegalStateEx
#1212 [13:19] <lolowia4> can someone help?
#1213 [13:19] <Jbuch> soz thats my problem
#1214 [13:19] <Jbuch> :L
#1215 [13:19] <asnoehu> willl laterns be on-off switchable?
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#1217 [13:20] <Wammus> Jbuch, do you have updated your drivers?
#1218 [13:20] <Jbuch> there fully updated
#1219 [13:20] <Jbuch> it says
#1220 [13:21] <Wammus> SiS Mirage 3 is not good enough to run Minecraft, it doesn't support OpenGL
#1221 [13:21] <Jbuch> oh
#1222 [13:21] <Jbuch> :(
#1223 [13:22] <Jbuch> how can i get a better one
#1224 [13:22] <Wammus> It's a laptop, right?
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#1227 [13:22] <Jbuch> yes
#1228 [13:22] <Wammus> Then you don't, you'd have to buy a new laptop for that :S
#1229 [13:22] <Jbuch> :(:(
#1230 [13:23] <Jbuch> :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
#1231 [13:23] <Jbuch> :(
#1232 [13:23] <Jbuch> :(
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#1234 [13:23] <Jbuch> thanks
#1235 [13:23] <Wammus> Your welcome, and, I'm sorry for you.
#1236 [13:23] <Jbuch> dw
#1237 [13:24] <lolowia5> can anyone help me?
#1238 [13:24] <Jbuch> its fine i got 2
#1239 [13:24] <Jbuch> one works but its slow
#1240 [13:24] <Wammus> What's the problem, lolowia5?
#1241 [13:24] <Jbuch> ill just restore
#1242 [13:24] <lolowia5> I get an error when i open minecraft
#1243 [13:24] <Jbuch> :):):):):)
#1244 [13:24] <Jbuch> ty bye
#1245 [13:24] <lolowia5> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 24/05/11 19:22
#1246 [13:24] <xales> ??> lolowia5 error
#1247 [13:24] <VoxelHead> lolowia5: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#1248 [13:24] <VoxelHead> lolowia5: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#1249 [13:25] <Wammus> You get a white screen or what?
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#1251 [13:26] <lolowia5> no a long text
#1252 [13:26] <lolowia5> what do I do with pastebin?
#1253 [13:26] <Wammus> When running via the site or the launcher?
#1254 [13:26] <lolowia5> site
#1255 [13:26] <xales> lolowia5: Copy the text on pastebin.com and give us the link to it
#1256 [13:26] <Wammus> Does the launcher work for you?
#1257 [13:26] <lolowia5> http://pastebin.com/iG2KKm8Q
#1258 [13:27] <lolowia5> I dont tried it, I am working on Ubuntu linux for the first time
#1259 [13:27] <xales> lolowia5: you have to install the proper display drivers
#1260 [13:27] <lolowia5> and I dont get how to download it and place it on my computer correctly
#1261 [13:27] <xales> there will be an option to enable them in System -> Additional Drivers or System -> Hardware Drivers
#1262 [13:28] <lolowia5> ok
#1263 [13:28] <Wammus> Xales, do you know the average waiting time till you get premium, I've payed with iDeal (Moneybookers) yesterday but I'm still not premium.
#1264 [13:28] <lolowia5> day three of my java-minecraft-ubuntu adventure
#1265 [13:28] <dopeghoti> Wammus: Not sure about the new payment methods, sometimes it takes a day or three for some CCvendors though
#1266 [13:28] <xales> ^
#1267 [13:29] <dopeghoti> Morning, #minecrafthelp
#1268 [13:29] <xales> o/
#1269 [13:29] <Wammus> My bank says it's payed though, it could be it hasn't arrived at Mojang yet...
#1270 [13:30] <xales> Payments are usually instant once Mojang's system actually gets it
#1271 [13:30] <xales> not sure how quickly Moneybookers tells the seller about transactions though
#1272 [13:30] <Wammus> I got an error between after the payment, but it was withdrawn from my bank account.
#1273 [13:31] <Wammus> Many users have problems with iDeal I see on the forum.
#1274 [13:31] <xales> DopeGhoti: Do you know where Ubuntu's proprietary driver options are under Unity?
#1275 [13:31] <xales> Wammus: You might try contacting them then :|
#1276 [13:31] <DopeGhoti> just search Unity's app "Lens" for Hardware
#1277 [13:32] <lolowia5> I dont find "Additional Drivers or System" xales
#1278 [13:32] <Wammus> Ok, I will, xales, ty.
#1279 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> Wammus: if you still don't have Mojang's blessing in a day or two, send an email to:
#1280 [13:32] <xales> lolowia5: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
#1281 [13:32] <DopeGhoti> payment@mojang.com with your confirmation of payment and account name
#1282 [13:32] <lolowia5> ubuntu 11.04
#1283 [13:33] <DopeGhoti> lolowia5: "hardware drivers" IIRC in 10.x and 11.x
#1284 [13:33] <Wammus> I already filled in a form at the Support page.
#1285 [13:34] <lolowia5> I am running it in Dutch, I think that is the problem
#1286 [13:34] <xales> lolowia5: Look under System -> Administration
#1287 [13:35] <finefin> bye all, may your problems all be solved...
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#1289 [13:36] <AG_Scott> Unity makes everything so retarded.
#1290 [13:37] <lolowia5> what am I to do exactly?
#1291 [13:37] <xales> lolowia5: you have to find the "hardware drivers" option and enable the one for video
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#1294 [13:41] <Bill> can anyone help me i downloaded a texture pack and now the game wont load up it has an error message which i should copy and paste but it closes down before i can do anything
#1295 [13:41] <xales> Bill: delete the texture pack
#1296 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> xales, I see my ninja skills are finally rubbing off on you.
#1297 [13:42] <xales> :>
#1298 [13:42] <VoxelHead> ;)
#1299 [13:42] <Bill> where from icve looked everywhere but i cant find the texture pack folder
#1300 [13:42] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/.minecraft
#1301 [13:42] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#1302 [13:42] <mib_tqd2td> Hi there! Since I reinstalled my MacOSX 10.6 from a time machine backup, Minecraft won't start anymore. I tried downloaded the Minecraft.zip once more, but that does not help. I have the feeling that there might a folder of settings or something hidden somewhere. What is it called on MacOSx, where can I find it - any hints?
#1303 [13:42] <lolowia5> am I somethign with enabeling NVIDIA (version 173)?
#1304 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_tqd2td mac/.minecraft
#1305 [13:43] <VoxelHead> mib_tqd2td: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#1306 [13:43] <mib_tqd2td> Wow, seriously? Damn ....
#1307 [13:43] <mib_tqd2td> ;-)
#1308 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> lolowia5: that sounds like what you want, yes
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#1310 [13:43] <Bill> was that win.minecraft supposed to open a web page?
#1311 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> Bill: no, it was supposed to have VoxelHead give you directions to follow.
#1312 [13:44] <lolowia5> I feel like today minecraft will work
#1313 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> lolowia5: that'd be swanke indeed, sir or ma'am or other.
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#1315 [13:46] <lolowia5> if I try to translate that sentance, it gives me weird things (in dutch)
#1316 [13:46] <Bill> omg thx sooooooo much u dont know how long this has been annoying me for
#1317 [13:46] <mib_tqd2td> @VoxelHead - Thanks for the help! I found the folder and deleted it. Unfortunately that didn't solve the problem
#1318 [13:46] <DopeGhoti> mib_tqd2td: what happens when you try to start Minecraft?
#1319 [13:47] <lolowia5> rebooting the computer now, I hope I will not have to use lolowia 6
#1320 [13:47] <mib_tqd2td> The Minecraft icon will only jump up and down two or three times and then close again.
#1321 [13:47] <mib_tqd2td> Nothing else
#1322 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> ah, okay
#1323 [13:47] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_tqd2td mac/permissions
#1324 [13:47] <VoxelHead> mib_tqd2td: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1325 [13:47] <VoxelHead> mib_tqd2td: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1326 [13:47] <mib_tqd2td> Alright, I'll try that, hold on a sec
#1327 [13:49] <Bill> YES it loaded
#1328 [13:49] <Bill> thx Voxelhead
#1329 [13:49] <VoxelHead> No biggie.
#1330 [13:49] <Bill> see u starside
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#1333 [13:50] <Ard> Hi
#1334 [13:50] <Ard> Can someone help me?
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#1336 [13:51] <Ard> ?
#1337 [13:51] <lloyd> does anyone know why my minecraft wont load on my pc browser but it does with my laptop one ??
#1338 [13:51] <Ard> Nope,
#1339 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> lloyd: you may need to install Java
#1340 [13:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> Ard ask
#1341 [13:51] <VoxelHead> Ard: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1342 [13:51] <VoxelHead> Ard: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1343 [13:52] <mib_tqd2td> Damn, that still didn't solve the problem
#1344 [13:52] <mib_tqd2td> Same problem
#1345 [13:52] <Ard> aha.
#1346 [13:52] <lloyd> i have installed java unless theres a new update but the pc normally says if there is one ?
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#1348 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> mib_tqd2td: when you ran the chmod command, did you get any response?
#1349 [13:52] <mib_tqd2td> As I said - I reinstalled from a time machine backup
#1350 [13:52] <lolowia6> I AM ON MINECRAFT, YAY
#1351 [13:52] <mib_tqd2td> No, no response
#1352 [13:52] <lolowia6> thank you so much
#1353 [13:52] <mib_tqd2td> Do I need to run the chmod as su or something?
#1354 [13:52] <DopeGhoti> mib_tqd2td: did you put the Minecraft app into /Applications, or into /Users/YOURNAME/Applications/?
#1355 [13:53] <Ard> Uhm, i can run minecraft in browser, but not with the download, when i download it it says Update your graphic drivers, something like that, but i already did a lot of times..
#1356 [13:53] <DopeGhoti> you could try prefixing the chmod command with sudo; that _may_ help.
#1357 [13:53] <mib_tqd2td> ummmmm At least I found it in /Applications let see ....
#1358 [13:53] <VoxelHead> =)
#1359 [13:53] <mib_tqd2td> I haven't got /Users/YOURNAME/Applications/?
#1360 [13:54] <mib_tqd2td> Yes, I replace "yourname"
#1361 [13:54] <mib_tqd2td> :-)
#1362 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> replace YOURNAME with your.. ah, okay
#1363 [13:54] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1364 [13:54] <mib_tqd2td> lol
#1365 [13:54] <Ard> Uhm, i can run minecraft in browser, but not with the download, when i download it it says Update your graphic drivers, something like that, but i already did a lot of times..
#1366 [13:54] <lolowia6> will you please do me another favor, and thanks "GreyVulpine" and "it" from me if you see them, they helped me the last two days
#1367 [13:54] <mib_tqd2td> Yeah, btw it also does not start from the browser
#1368 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> lolowia6: \o/
#1369 [13:54] <mib_tqd2td> The browser will crash if I try
#1370 [13:55] <xales> Ard: yes, we saw the first time. The problem is almost always that your computer cannot handle the slightly higher system usage that the standalone version incurs
#1371 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> mib_tqd2td: what I would do at this point is rm -rf /Applications/Minecraft.app and reinstall it from scratch
#1372 [13:55] * AuBot kicked DopeGhoti from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please do not try tricking people with that.)
#1373 [13:55] <Ard> :P
#1374 [13:55] <lolowia6> I spend the last two evenings on installing java for minecraft, and thy were so worth it
#1375 [13:55] <mib_tqd2td> System update says I'm up2date
#1376 [13:55] <lolowia6> thank you so much
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#1378 [13:55] <mib_tqd2td> Ok, I'll try that
#1379 [13:55] <Ard> Oh that sux xales :$
#1380 [13:55] <Ard> thanks :)
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#1382 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> mib_tqd2td: that was not a trick, just to __NOT__ put a space after that /
#1383 [13:56] <MacKnight> Can someone here answer me a question?
#1384 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> MacKnight: Yes. Next?
#1385 [13:56] <mib_tqd2td> Nope, didn't work
#1386 [13:56] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_tqd2td mac/profile
#1387 [13:56] <VoxelHead> mib_tqd2td: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1388 [13:57] <VoxelHead> mib_tqd2td: (mac/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1389 [13:57] <MacKnight> notch said this on the 1.6 update:
#1390 [13:57] <MacKnight> * It’s no longer possible to build solid blocks on the top layer of the maps (sorry!)
#1391 [13:57] <MacKnight> what does he mean?
#1392 [13:57] <mib_tqd2td> With "reinstall from scratch" you DO mean download again and drag it to the Applications, right? I never unzipped anything
#1393 [13:57] <xales> MacKnight: We don't have any more information than you.
#1394 [13:57] <MacKnight> :(
#1395 [13:57] <xales> mib_tqd2td: you are downloading it from minecraft.net, right?
#1396 [13:57] <mib_tqd2td> Yupp
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#1398 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> mib_tqd2td: after deleting the files that are already there; yes.
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#1403 [14:00] <Creeptastic> hi
#1404 [14:00] <lloyd> ok could anyone possiably help me haha im totally confused now why minecraft plays on my laptop browser and not my pc one it doesn't make any sense haha
#1405 [14:00] <xales> Hi.
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#1407 [14:00] <VoxelHead> im totally, got it.
#1408 [14:00] <Creeptastic> How long to the support guys take to respond?
#1409 [14:00] <mib_tqd2td> Ummmm, another stupid question - I set up a new account. Buuut, I cannot play now without paying, right?
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#1411 [14:01] <xales> Creeptastic: http://minecraft.net/support/
#1412 [14:01] <xales> mib_tqd2td: Not a Minecraft account, an account on your computer
#1413 [14:01] <mib_tqd2td> ouch
#1414 [14:01] <mib_tqd2td> Alright
#1415 [14:01] <VoxelHead> Awww
#1416 [14:01] * VoxelHead rubs mib_tqd2td better.
#1416 [14:01] <Creeptastic> Because they said my account is being played.
#1417 [14:01] <mib_tqd2td> :-)
#1418 [14:01] <Creeptastic> And i can't login
#1419 [14:01] <Creeptastic> :D
#1420 [14:01] <xales> lloyd: Why doesn't it work on your PC? Does it give you an error?
#1421 [14:01] <supermax1221> Minecraft keeps crashing on me any ideas on how to fix
#1422 [14:01] <mib_tqd2td> Hold on a sec
#1423 [14:01] <Creeptastic> Apparantly a hacker.
#1424 [14:01] <xales> Creeptastic: We can't help with account issues, we are unofficial support.
#1425 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> mib_tqd2td: I meand setting up a new account on the _computer_ not a new Minecraft account.
#1426 [14:01] <Creeptastic> ok
#1427 [14:01] <mib_tqd2td> Yeah, got it now
#1428 [14:02] <lloyd> it loads the java bit then says downloading with the minecraft section of the screen then turns black if that makes any sense haha
#1429 [14:02] <Creeptastic> But do you know how long the support guys usually take?
#1430 [14:02] <xales> supermax1221: Is there any error? When does it crash? Have you installed any mods or texture packs?
#1431 [14:02] <xales> Creeptastic: It depends
#1432 [14:02] <Creeptastic> Alright
#1433 [14:02] <xales> lloyd: Are you trying to play Beta or Classic?
#1434 [14:02] <lloyd> beta
#1435 [14:03] <Creeptastic> Bad feeling...some hacker is playing with my name and i can't do s***
#1436 [14:03] <Creeptastic> :(
#1437 [14:03] <xales> lloyd: try the download client
#1438 [14:03] <mib_tqd2td> I feel bad for asking, but what the heck - can I change users on mac without logging off?
#1439 [14:03] <lloyd> that on the help bit on minecraft site or ?? :S
#1440 [14:03] <supermax1221> xales: I have several texture packs using custom painterly and no mods
#1441 [14:03] <xales> mib_tqd2td: yes, if you enable fast user switching in system preferences
#1442 [14:04] <xales> lloyd: http://minecraft.net/download.jsp it's the download link right on the front pag
#1443 [14:04] <xales> page*
#1444 [14:04] <xales> ??> supermax1221 win/reinst
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#1446 [14:04] <VoxelHead> supermax1221: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1447 [14:04] <mib_tqd2td> You guys rock, really
#1448 [14:04] <VoxelHead> supermax1221: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1449 [14:04] <DopeGhoti> Creeptastic: recover your password, change it to something other than 12345 or hunter2, and enjoy your game.
#1450 [14:04] <Bodomite> Hey, can someone help me with my minecraft installation ? :P
#1451 [14:04] <xales> supermax1221: a correction to those instructions, delete _everything_ inside of .minecraft except for 'saves'
#1452 [14:05] <xales> Bodomite: Only if you tell us what the problem is
#1453 [14:05] <supermax1221> even the texture packs?
#1454 [14:05] <Bodomite> I have this problem, when i open my inventory the game shuts down after a few seconds
#1455 [14:05] <xales> supermax1221: yes
#1456 [14:05] <supermax1221> :( ok
#1457 [14:05] <xales> Bodomite: do you have any mods installed?
#1458 [14:05] <Bodomite> not at all
#1459 [14:05] <xales> ??> Bodomite win/reinst
#1460 [14:05] <VoxelHead> Bodomite: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1461 [14:05] <VoxelHead> Bodomite: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1462 [14:06] <Bodomite> ive reinstalled the game several times, but it doesnt work
#1463 [14:06] <lloyd> XALES: thank you very much it works through that section now
#1464 [14:06] <Bodomite> and yes, i delete the files in %appdata%
#1465 [14:06] <xales> Bodomite: Try deleting, in addition to the bin folder, everything in the folder except for 'saves'
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#1467 [14:07] <Bodomite> but the funny thing is, that its only on my friends servere the problem exists,
#1468 [14:07] <Bodomite> when offline or on another server, it works fine
#1469 [14:07] <xales> ah
#1470 [14:08] <xales> your player data on that server is corrupted then; your friend will need to delete it
#1471 [14:08] <Bodomite> we have done that too, and the problem still exists
#1472 [14:08] <xales> they deleted the playername.dat?
#1473 [14:08] * Kealper rawrs
#1473 [14:08] <Bodomite> yep
#1474 [14:09] * xales tags Kealper in
#1474 [14:09] <Kealper> wut? i just got home lol
#1475 [14:09] <xales> Kealper: game crashes when loading inventory, but only on one server
#1476 [14:09] <xales> player.dat was deleted
#1477 [14:09] <Kealper> that's......unfortunate
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#1479 [14:10] <xales> Bodomite: are there any mods on the server?
#1480 [14:10] <Kealper> there is no way to recover a lost player.dat on a multiplayer server, unless the server owner did backups :/
#1481 [14:11] <mib_tqd2td> Soooo, didn't help. I created a new Mac account, before that I made sure to remove the Minecraft.app folder from the Applications folder, then I switched to the new account, downloaded Minecraft.zip once more, dragged it to the Applications, started - same problem.
#1482 [14:11] <mib_tqd2td> It seems to be a system problem then
#1483 [14:11] <xales> mib_tqd2td: have you done...
#1484 [14:11] <xales> ??> mib_tqd2td mac/permissions
#1485 [14:11] <VoxelHead> mib_tqd2td: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1486 [14:11] <VoxelHead> mib_tqd2td: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1487 [14:11] <mib_tqd2td> Jupp
#1488 [14:11] <Bodomite> Xales: I dont know,,
#1489 [14:11] <mib_tqd2td> Or ---- hold on
#1490 [14:12] <Bodomite> Everyone on the server is mods
#1491 [14:12] <mib_tqd2td> Yes I did. No it didn't help
#1492 [14:12] <xales> Bodomite: I mean modifications, not moderators
#1493 [14:12] <mib_tqd2td> I really appreciate your help guys.
#1494 [14:12] <Bodomite> of
#1495 [14:12] <Bodomite> oh*
#1496 [14:13] <xales> mib_tqd2td: What version of OS X are you running?
#1497 [14:13] <Bodomite> Bukkit, Multiverse, ehm cant remember the rest
#1498 [14:13] <mib_tqd2td> 10.6.7
#1499 [14:13] <mib_tqd2td> I ran nicely before I recovered form time machine
#1500 [14:13] <xales> Bodomite: one of those is probably the issue then
#1501 [14:13] <mib_tqd2td> I installed a bigger hard drive
#1502 [14:13] <mib_tqd2td> And then it didn't work anymore
#1503 [14:13] <xales> mib_tqd2td: just to clarify..it still just bounces once then doesn't launch?
#1504 [14:13] <mib_tqd2td> It's actually the only thing that does not work anymore
#1505 [14:13] <mib_tqd2td> Exactly
#1506 [14:14] <mib_tqd2td> Bounce very, very shortly, close again
#1507 [14:14] <xales> try this, in Terminal
#1508 [14:14] <xales> `sudo chmod -R 777 /Applications/Minecraft.app`
#1509 [14:14] <Bodomite> Xales: so if my friends/the owner deletes the mods one after one and re-install them, i might resolve the problem?
#1510 [14:14] <xales> Bodomite: yes
#1511 [14:14] <Bodomite> cool ^^ I'll try that :) thanks for your help :D
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#1513 [14:15] <Ikaruga> hi
#1514 [14:15] <xales> Hi.
#1515 [14:15] <VoxelHead> Bye pwnus.
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#1517 [14:16] <mib_epv4vt> Hello
#1518 [14:16] <xales> Hi.
#1519 [14:16] <mib_epv4vt> Of course i´ve got a question, but do someone know about mods?
#1520 [14:17] <xales> We can't really help with mods. If it's a single player mod, try #risucraft if it's for Bukkit try #bukkit
#1521 [14:17] <xales> if you want to join #risucraft you have to change your nick with "/nick newnick"
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#1523 [14:17] <mib_tqd2td> Nope, didn't help
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#1525 [14:18] <ferdinand> Okay... i was there but i was kicked...
#1526 [14:18] <ferdinand> or banned
#1527 [14:18] <xales> As I said
#1528 [14:18] <xales> you have to change your nick with "/nick newnick"
#1529 [14:18] * Kealper is confused
#1529 [14:18] <xales> replace newnick with the name you want to use
#1530 [14:18] <ferdinand> You didn´t said that but thanks
#1531 [14:18] <xales> 14:17:36 <@xales> if you want to join #risucraft you have to change your nick with "/nick newnick"
#1532 [14:19] <mib_tqd2td> I didn't get any response from the sudo chmod command
#1533 [14:19] <mib_tqd2td> So I guess it worked
#1534 [14:19] <xales> mib_tqd2td: yeah, it did...not really sure what to tell you
#1535 [14:19] <xales> does the game work in the browser?
#1536 [14:19] <mib_tqd2td> Nope
#1537 [14:19] <mib_tqd2td> I'll try once more, hold on ....
#1538 [14:19] <supermax1221> it just crashed a gain
#1539 [14:19] <supermax1221> *again
#1540 [14:20] <xales> supermax1221: was there an error?
#1541 [14:20] <supermax1221> no it just went unresponsive
#1542 [14:20] <xales> that could just be normal...some people get inexplicable periodic crashes
#1543 [14:20] <xales> it may be fixed in 1.6
#1544 [14:20] <supermax1221> hmmm
#1545 [14:20] <supermax1221> i hope so
#1546 [14:20] <Ikaruga> My friend got a sis661fx onboard thingy (opengl:1.2.1), and Minecraft only gives him a black screen but nothing else. Will it run for sure if he buys a dedicated video card? Any help would be greatly appreciated:)
#1547 [14:21] <supermax1221> I was playing smp
#1548 [14:21] <mib_tqd2td> Nope, it crashes Safari
#1549 [14:21] <mib_tqd2td> First it shows the coffee cup (guess it's loading some Java), and then Safari crashes
#1550 [14:21] <supermax1221> doubt that make a difference
#1551 [14:21] <supermax1221> *makes
#1552 [14:21] <xales> mib_tqd2td: you could probably get Apple to help with that, it sounds like Java is corrupted by time machine some how
#1553 [14:21] <xales> supermax1221: yeah, it doesn't
#1554 [14:21] <supermax1221> thought so
#1555 [14:21] <mib_tqd2td> Alrighty ....
#1556 [14:21] <xales> Ikaruga: Yes, it would, but if the computer is old enough to have that graphics card...
#1557 [14:21] <xales> it might still not have a fast enough CPU or enough RAM
#1558 [14:22] <xales> because damn, that card is _old_
#1559 [14:22] <mib_tqd2td> I'll see whether I can reinstall the Java installatation
#1560 [14:22] <Ikaruga> Xales: yea its an agp wreck and I told him not to spend any money on that rig, but he is 10 years old and he doesn't have money for a new system:)
#1561 [14:23] <mib_tqd2td> Thanks so far guys - even though I couldn't fix it so far you still were a great help in taking out other possible options
#1562 [14:23] <xales> Ikaruga: just..be prepared for it to not run even with a dedicated card. Minecraft needs at least 1GB of RAM to itself to run well
#1563 [14:23] <xales> mib_tqd2td: not a problem, sorry we couldn't be of more help
#1564 [14:24] <Ikaruga> Xales: yea, thats why I ask, if the black screen is not enough opengl powa for sure:)
#1565 [14:25] <Ikaruga> Xales: he got 2 gig ram and a p4 cpu, that should run it somehow imo
#1566 [14:26] <xales> It...might "run" it, whether it is very playable is another thing entirely :|
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#1568 [14:27] <Ikaruga> yea, but I got a ionitx htpc here, (oc-ed to 2.1Ghz) and that slow atom thing runs it pretty well since 1.5x about 30-50fps@1360x768
#1569 [14:27] <Ikaruga> so he could play at least
#1570 [14:27] <Ikaruga> he loves the game
#1571 [14:28] <Ikaruga> so he doesnt care about if its only 20 fps as he said
#1572 [14:28] <Ikaruga> but he will kill me if it wont run:D
#1573 [14:28] <xales> 20fps might be a bit of an overestimate, depending on the graphics card you get
#1574 [14:29] <Ikaruga> 3850 as I recommended
#1575 [14:29] <Ikaruga> little overkill for that cpu, but there is a cheap one available
#1576 [14:30] <xales> does the computer even have a slot for that? :|
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#1578 [14:30] <Ikaruga> yea it does, 1 8xagp slot
#1579 [14:31] <Ikaruga> so, is the black screen without any crash means no required opengl functions available?
#1580 [14:31] <Ikaruga> or is there a way to force logcreation?
#1581 [14:31] <xales> that, plus the card wasn't able to allocate enough video memory (minecraft uses a _lot_)
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#1583 [14:32] <Ikaruga> ok thanx
#1584 [14:32] <ferminter> hey, i jst downloaded the game and hit play and got this error; unable to start as failed to find accelerated open GL mode. This can be fixed by updating the video card drivers. Does anyone know how i can do that?!
#1585 [14:33] <xales> ferminter: Do you know what vide ocard you have?
#1586 [14:33] <mib_r1in2l> hey, i had the same problem although all checks show my video car drivers are up to date
#1587 [14:33] <ferminter> im not sure im not on my laptop atm...
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#1589 [14:33] <Stan> Hello
#1590 [14:33] <Stan> I have a Question
#1591 [14:33] <Ikaruga> bb, thank you again for your time
#1592 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> We have answers
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#1594 [14:34] <xales> mib_r1in2l: where are you checking?
#1595 [14:34] <xales> ??> ferminter win/dxdiag
#1596 [14:34] <VoxelHead> ferminter: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1597 [14:34] <VoxelHead> ferminter: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1598 [14:34] <Stan> I would like to buy minecraft, (With my dutch bank account)
#1599 [14:34] <supermax1221> if it goes unresponsive will it go back to being responsive?
#1600 [14:34] <xales> supermax1221: not likely
#1601 [14:34] <Stan> Afther i buy it
#1602 [14:34] <supermax1221> :|
#1603 [14:34] <Stan> i got the Primium direct ?
#1604 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Stan - Yes
#1605 [14:35] <mib_r1in2l> I did a windows check and then i went to HP's site and that said m video card drivers is the latest
#1606 [14:35] <Stan> Okay.
#1607 [14:35] <xales> mib_r1in2l: what video card do you have?
#1608 [14:36] <Stan> And another question :$ , I got lagg if i play online on minecraft (cracked servers) how to fix it.
#1609 [14:36] <Stan> Got an good internet contection
#1610 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> Stan - We do not provideo help on cracked versions of minecraft
#1611 [14:36] <supermax1221> thanks for the help guys
#1612 [14:36] <supermax1221> cant wait for 1.6 cya
#1613 [14:36] <Stan> I mean i got lag online.
#1614 [14:37] <ferminter> xales - thanks a mil, i'll be back on later with that info
#1615 [14:37] <Stan> Maybe 1.6 its fixed
#1616 [14:37] <Kealper> Stan: what is your ingame username?
#1617 [14:37] <Stan> DeNi3D
#1618 [14:37] <Kealper> !paid DeNi3D
#1619 [14:38] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
#1620 [14:38] <Stan> Im gone do it now rofl
#1621 [14:39] <Kealper> (that emote is called the Look of Disapproval, for anyone who wonders why i do it so much, fyi)
#1622 [14:39] <mib_r1in2l> sorry mobile intel (R) 945 express chipset family
#1623 [14:40] <Stan> Lol If i translate this : Added Nether support to multiplayer, It says : Suport netherlands in muliplayer.
#1624 [14:40] <Kealper> will a GMA 945 even play Minecraft?
#1625 [14:40] <Stan> What they mean with Nether ?
#1626 [14:40] <Kealper> Stan: hellish second dimention
#1627 [14:40] <Stan> Oh.
#1628 [14:40] <Kealper> dimension*
#1629 [14:41] <Stan> Oh. Cool
#1630 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> you know what's cooler? Buying the game.
#1631 [14:41] <Kealper> ^
#1632 [14:41] <Stan> Should i ask my mom, Or just do it ? :p
#1633 [14:42] <Kealper> if you are using your mother's money, it'd probably best to ask
#1634 [14:42] <DopeGhoti> should you ask your mom if you want that game from Gamestop, or just shove it in your pocket and walk back into the mall?
#1635 [14:42] <Stan> Its not my moms money XD
#1636 [14:42] * Kealper goes to get the popcorn shrimp out of the oven
#1636 [14:42] <Kealper> it's smelling done now
#1637 [14:42] <Stan> I'll do it :D
#1638 [14:43] <DopeGhoti> if by 'do it' you mean buy the game, than I approve of your decision and welcome you closer to Enlightenment
#1639 [14:44] <Kealper> nope...still not done yet...
#1640 [14:44] * Kealper waits a few more minute s:<
#1640 [14:44] <Kealper> minutes*
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#1642 [14:46] <Stan> thank you guys, I'll buy the game soon
#1643 [14:46] <Stan> Laterz.
#1644 [14:46] * Kealper waves
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#1645 [14:51] <Kealper> mmmm....popcorn shrimp
#1646 [14:52] <xales> D:
#1647 [14:52] * xales takes Kealper's popcorn shrimp via FTP/IP
#1647 [14:52] <Kealper> D:
#1648 [14:52] <xales> (food tranfer protocol over Internet protocol)
#1649 [14:52] <xales> :>
#1650 [14:52] <VoxelHead> ;)
#1651 [14:52] <Kealper> lol
#1652 [14:52] <Kealper> Food Theft Protocol sounds funnier :P
#1653 [14:53] <xales> ._.
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#1656 [14:57] * bread hugs vox
#1656 [14:57] <VoxelHead> ~oef~
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#1658 [15:00] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go T_T.
#1659 [15:00] <xales> I don't
#1660 [15:00] <xales> D:
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#1662 [15:00] <Kealper> lol
#1663 [15:01] <julianbtje> kealper
#1664 [15:01] <Kealper> D:
#1665 [15:01] * Kealper waves
#1665 [15:01] <julianbtje> i see its transferd (my money
#1666 [15:01] <Kealper> julianbtje: did the payment go though on Mojang's side now?
#1667 [15:01] <julianbtje> but nope nothing happened that means im vip
#1668 [15:01] <Kealper> hmm....
#1669 [15:02] <julianbtje> or member
#1670 [15:02] <Kealper> what is your ingame username?
#1671 [15:02] <julianbtje> julianbtje
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#1673 [15:02] <Kealper> !paid julianbtje
#1674 [15:02] <Kealper> hmm...
#1675 [15:02] <Kealper> well...about how long has it been now?
#1676 [15:02] <julianbtje> but at moneybooker there was an error
#1677 [15:03] <VoxelHead> mmm mib_oe59gm
#1678 [15:03] <Kealper> what'd it say?
#1679 [15:03] <xales> A lot of people have been having that issue
#1680 [15:03] <Kealper> xales: with MB?
#1681 [15:03] <xales> yeah
#1682 [15:03] <Kealper> :/
#1683 [15:03] <julianbtje> something with my id
#1684 [15:04] <julianbtje> unicqe identifier
#1685 [15:04] <julianbtje> or some
#1686 [15:04] <xales> you should contact moneybookers
#1687 [15:04] <julianbtje> yeah i googled my error but i didnt find something useful
#1688 [15:05] <julianbtje> oh it was at 16:14
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#1690 [15:06] <julianbtje> but im in europe so its a little time differnce
#1691 [15:07] <xales> We can't really help you with that..we are community support, as the topic says.
#1692 [15:07] <xales> You should probably contact Moneybookers
#1693 [15:09] <julianbtje> ok i shal try
#1694 [15:09] <julianbtje> but the site said something about a email
#1695 [15:10] <julianbtje> not moneybookers but minecraft
#1696 [15:10] <xales> if there was an error, then Mojang (Minecraft) probably has not gotten your payment
#1697 [15:10] <xales> you need to contect Moneybookers
#1698 [15:10] <julianbtje> ok ill do that
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#1700 [15:15] <VoxelHead> we have no time for these games@%percent£$$^%percent@^%percent%percent!!@£$
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#1705 [15:35] <mib_y80duc> help i bought mine craft yesterday and it still says im not premium
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#1707 [15:37] <[L]> Did you use the support on the site?
#1708 [15:37] <mib_y80duc> yes
#1709 [15:37] <[L]> Which one?
#1710 [15:37] <mib_y80duc> but i dont now where to find transaction receipt id
#1711 [15:38] <[L]> Usually thats around in your paypal account somewhere, i've never used paypal so i don't know how it works
#1712 [15:38] <[L]> Justl ook around for your payment history
#1713 [15:38] <[L]> Or look it up
#1714 [15:38] <mib_y80duc> cant used credit card
#1715 [15:38] <xales> Did the payment say it was successful?
#1716 [15:38] <mib_y80duc> yes
#1717 [15:39] <xales> You don't need to include a transaction ID if you paid via credit car
#1718 [15:39] <xales> d
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#1720 [15:40] <mib_y80duc> it says i do when i do the support thing
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#1722 [15:41] <xales> Again, if you paid via credit card, there is no transaction ID
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#1724 [15:42] <mib_y80duc> well it is asking for one or a receipt id
#1725 [15:42] <jkt333> Can you advise on the java.access denied error message please
#1726 [15:42] <xales> Then leave it blank...
#1727 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> jkt333 - That'll happen when you deny the java certificate
#1728 [15:43] <xales> jkt333: What is the full error. If it's longer than one line, use http://pastebin.com/
#1729 [15:43] <xales> Or that
#1730 [15:43] <mib_y80duc> so what do i do/
#1731 [15:43] <mib_y80duc> ?
#1732 [15:44] <xales> 15:42:48 <@xales> Then leave it blank...
#1733 [15:44] <mr_trousers> I have a problem, I just bought the game, and I can not play ay, I have no idea or can be if the game is by some!
#1734 [15:45] <mib_y80duc> i did it said please provide all neccary info
#1735 [15:45] <xales> mib_y80duc: did you get a receipt in your email?
#1736 [15:45] * mib_ut64e0 [mib_ut64e0@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1737 [15:46] <mib_y80duc> nope
#1738 [15:46] <xales> mr_trousers: Why can't you play? What happens when you try?
#1739 [15:46] <xales> mib_y80duc: then just put "none" ...
#1740 [15:48] <Morrolan> mib_y80duc, or, better yet, put "credit card" in that field.
#1741 [15:48] <mr_trousers> xales:I can not try these because I do not, or is the game, as soon as I finished paying I had no connection or another to play.
#1742 [15:48] <jkt333> sorry for the delay when launching the beta in the web browser the error message is cut off but reads - fatal error occurred(2):access denied (java.util. property permission user home re ?
#1743 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> jkt333 - Try clearing your browser's cache and temporary files
#1744 [15:48] <mib_y80duc> i put none it went through should i submit another with credit card?
#1745 [15:48] <xales> mib_y80duc: No
#1746 [15:50] <mr_trousers> xales:I can not try these because I do not, or is the game, as soon as I finished paying I had no connection or another to play.
#1747 [15:50] <mib_y80duc> k thank u just got a email that there reviewing it you were a lot of help and if i ever have trouble ill be back
#1748 [15:50] <xales> mr_trousers: I don't understand the problem
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#1750 [15:51] <Evan010> Hello, can somebody help me?
#1751 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps.
#1752 [15:51] <Evan010> Okay, do you remember me from yesterday?
#1753 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, we get a ton of people who come through here daily.
#1754 [15:51] <[L]> mr_trousers: Rephrase your sentence
#1755 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Could you refresh our memories.
#1756 [15:52] <Evan010> Okay, well i bought the game with ideal.
#1757 [15:52] <Evan010> everything was going ok.
#1758 [15:52] <VoxelHead> mmm Urughak
#1759 [15:52] <Evan010> but after the buy, there was an error.
#1760 [15:52] <Evan010> may friend have the same problem.
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#1763 [15:52] <Evan010> Okay so i was going to the internet site of my bank
#1764 [15:53] <Evan010> to see if there was any money written off..
#1765 [15:53] <Evan010> and yea there was 14,95.
#1766 [15:53] <Evan010> so i thought! i have the game now!
#1767 [15:53] <Evan010> but no i dont have it..
#1768 [15:53] <xales> Evan010: Many people have had this issue
#1769 [15:53] <Evan010> and i also do not get any email ore something
#1770 [15:53] <mib_3gtex7> i have saved a texture pack on minecraft, and from now on, everytime i got on mine craftm it instantly crashes, can someone tell me where i can find the testure pack folder on my ducuments
#1771 [15:53] <xales> you have to contact the service you used to pay
#1772 [15:53] <andrewluvr> how come my minecraft wont show up!
#1773 [15:54] <xales> ??> mib_3gtex7 win/.minecraft
#1774 [15:54] <VoxelHead> mib_3gtex7: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
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#1776 [15:54] <Evan010> but i have already emailed : Mojang..
#1777 [15:54] <Evan010> No answer..
#1778 [15:54] <xales> Evan010: Mojang cannot help you, if they had gotten your payment then you account would be active
#1779 [15:54] <Evan010> And i tried to contact "Notch" ..
#1780 [15:54] <xales> you have to contact the service you used to pay
#1781 [15:54] <mib_y80duc> how long will it take to review a email that i sent in they said its being reviewed but i want to play tonight
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#1783 [15:54] <xales> mib_y80duc: We don't know
#1784 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Evan010 - You need to send an email to payment@mojang.com
#1785 [15:54] <ka> my game isnt running something about applets can u help
#1786 [15:54] <[L]> Makes me wish Mollstamm still hanged around here
#1787 [15:54] <Glycan_> MC runs on 25565, yes?
#1788 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes Glycan_
#1789 [15:55] <xales> Glycan_: yes, by default
#1790 [15:55] <xales> ka: Only if you can be more specific
#1791 [15:55] <Evan010> GreyVulpine i did, but i dont get any answer of them.
#1792 [15:55] <ka> my game isnt running something about applets can u help
#1793 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Evan010 - It can take a few days for them to reply. They do get a LOT of emails
#1794 [15:55] <Evan010> oh damn..
#1795 [15:55] <xales> ka: Again, if you want us to help you, you have to be more specific, not repeat what you just said
#1796 [15:56] <Evan010> well, but my friend have the same thing.
#1797 [15:56] <Evan010> i paid with "ideal" .
#1798 [15:56] <mib_3gtex7> voxelhead, do i then delete minecraft folder?
#1799 [15:56] <Evan010> and i heard something is wrong with it.
#1800 [15:56] <VoxelHead> what do you think this is? Who Wants to be a Millionaire
#1801 [15:56] <xales> mib_3gtex7: No. Also, VoxelHead is a bot.
#1802 [15:56] <Evan010> beacause verry mutch people have this issue
#1803 [15:56] <VoxelHead> *smacks xales*
#1804 [15:56] <VoxelHead> shut up
#1805 [15:56] <xales> mib_3gtex7: Inside the minecraft folder, delete bin and texturepacks
#1806 [15:56] <xales> NOTHING else
#1807 [15:57] <xales> Evan010: you have to contact "iDeal"
#1808 [15:57] <xales> not Mojang
#1809 [15:57] <Glycan_> The port forwarding, it should forward from your external IP, yes?
#1810 [15:57] <xales> Glycan_: Yes
#1811 [15:57] <mib_3gtex7> vixelhead: after i find the minecraft folder by pressing win+r, i delete the minecraft folder?
#1812 [15:57] <mr_trousers> [l]: Ok, I buy the game to play I Can not, Could you tell me where I can play?
#1813 [15:57] <[L]> xales: You guys really do need more help
#1814 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> [L] - It'd be nice if we can clone xales a few times
#1815 [15:57] <[L]> mr_trousers: You bought the game, is your account premium?
#1816 [15:57] <xales> mib_3gtex7: I just told you
#1817 [15:58] <xales> VoxelHead is a bot. He will not answer you
#1818 [15:58] <xales> You have to delete the 'bin' folder and the 'texturepack' folder inside the minecraft folder
#1819 [15:58] <xales> if you delete the minecraft folder or any other folder in it, you will lose your saves
#1820 [15:58] <mr_trousers> [l] Yes
#1821 [15:59] <Evan010> i hate this..
#1822 [15:59] <[L]> mr_trousers: Why can't you play? Please be specific, does it say you're not premium?
#1823 [15:59] <Evan010> i just want to play.. but i have to wait..
#1824 [15:59] <[L]> Evan010: We all did
#1825 [15:59] <Evan010> on my free days of school :(
#1826 [15:59] <xales> Evan010: Again, you need to contact "iDeal"
#1827 [15:59] <Evan010> well actually not, because ideal said : you have to contact the game seller.
#1828 [15:59] <Evan010> so witch one ?
#1829 [16:00] <[L]> Xales:
#1830 [16:00] <xales> If it is a payment problem, you must contact them
#1831 [16:00] <VoxelHead> I do too answer!
#1832 [16:00] <[L]> It sounds like Mojang is taking its time if he has money withdrawn
#1833 [16:00] <VoxelHead> Just kidding! No I don't!
#1834 [16:00] <VoxelHead> only, I do
#1835 [16:00] <xales> [L]: The payment processor threw up an error, so Mojang probably has no idea there _was_ a payment
#1836 [16:00] <VoxelHead> But actually, I don't
#1837 [16:00] <[L]> Hm.
#1838 [16:00] <[L]> Interesyting
#1839 [16:00] <[L]> Then he DOES need to contact Payment
#1840 [16:01] <Evan010> yea kind off..
#1841 [16:01] <[L]> @Mojang anyways
#1842 [16:01] <Evan010> but you know..
#1843 [16:01] <[L]> With proof of buying the game
#1844 [16:01] <mib_3gtex7> xales: thanks, i got it working, voxelhead was no help
#1845 [16:01] <VoxelHead> I don't not fail to provide a lack of an absense of a nonreply.
#1846 [16:01] <Evan010> i just want to buy the game, and i have now really mutch to doo for it..
#1847 [16:01] <xales> mib_3gtex7: as I said, VoxelHead is a computer program
#1848 [16:01] <xales> NOT a person
#1849 [16:01] <xales> ._.
#1850 [16:01] <[L]> Evan010: Worth it
#1851 [16:01] <NinjaKirby> lol...
#1852 [16:01] <mib_3gtex7> lol
#1853 [16:01] <Jckf> What's the preferred mod for flying in multiplayer?
#1854 [16:01] <VoxelHead> aren't we all?
#1855 [16:01] <[L]> We don't support modding
#1856 [16:01] <[L]> Ask in #risucraft
#1857 [16:01] <Evan010> yeah i know... but i just want to play now.
#1858 [16:01] <mib_3gtex7> xales: you have xbox live?
#1859 [16:02] <xales> Evan010: There is a demo
#1860 [16:02] <Evan010> i bought a server with my friends..
#1861 [16:02] <[L]> Evan010: Always creativer
#1862 [16:02] <xales> mib_3gtex7: Hell no
#1863 [16:02] <xales> what a piece of garbage
#1864 [16:02] <xales> waste of money, crappy console...
#1865 [16:02] <Evan010> and i want to play on it, but i cant now..
#1866 [16:02] <mib_3gtex7> xales: what about skype?
#1867 [16:02] <xales> Microsoft products in general...
#1868 [16:02] <[L]> Evan010: If you are feeling VERY adventerous... Terraria
#1869 [16:02] <xales> and nope
#1870 [16:02] <mr_trousers> [L]: Ok, I just bought the game and "minecraft" does not give any explanation for my play so I do not how to play these! Oh sorry I'm french so I do not speak very good English!
#1871 [16:02] <ka> apparently xales i have a missing applet perameter called al_main
#1872 [16:02] <mib_3gtex7> xales: what do u do, play minecraft all day?
#1873 [16:02] <xales> ka: Reinstall Java
#1874 [16:02] <xales> mib_3gtex7: I'm not playing it now, am I?
#1875 [16:02] <Evan010> if i could, i will play minecraft the whole day..
#1876 [16:02] <Morrolan> mr_trousers: Suggest yuo take a look at these videos: http://www.minecraft.net/help.jsp
#1877 [16:02] <xales> I do schoolwork all day, and I have a job
#1878 [16:02] <mib_3gtex7> xales: idk, brb
#1879 [16:02] <xales> sort of
#1880 [16:03] <Morrolan> mr_trousers, Or you could check out www.minecraftwiki.net
#1881 [16:03] <[L]> mr_trousers: I'm having a hard time understand, 'explaniation for my play' ? Are you saying you don't know how to play the game as in play it, or in-game play it wise?
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#1883 [16:03] <ka> kk
#1884 [16:03] <oobis> hey
#1885 [16:03] <[L]> mr_trousers: I will assume you downloaded the client, and it worked?
#1886 [16:04] <xales> oobis: Hello.
#1887 [16:05] <jkt333> heventually managed to copy the whole error message to the pastebin link you supplied thanks - http://pastebin.com/QMpnmBs6
#1888 [16:05] <[L]> :l
#1889 [16:05] <[L]> Join channel, leave minute later
#1890 [16:05] <xales> jkt333: Again, as GreyVulpine said, you need to click "allow" when it prompts you for permission to run
#1891 [16:06] <jkt333> sorry what prompt - from Java?
#1892 [16:06] <xales> Yes, Java will open up a dialog asking for permission to run
#1893 [16:07] <xales> the reason you get that error is you clicked "Deny"
#1894 [16:07] <mib_y80duc> im starting to think i wasted money cuse i cant get my account to work
#1895 [16:07] <jkt333> thanks I'll try again
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#1899 [16:08] <xales> mib_y80duc: you just have to be patient...
#1900 [16:08] <mib_y80duc> see but ive wait 24 hrs
#1901 [16:08] <mr_trousers> [L] : Ha no, I did not download client. Or is that client ?
#1902 [16:08] <mib_li3pga> i accidently clicked deny when minecraft asked permission to run and checked always do this for the server, how do i undo this?
#1903 [16:09] <mib_li3pga> my browser is Safari
#1904 [16:09] <cow> do they have a mod for help you find diamond?
#1905 [16:10] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :O
#1906 [16:10] <xales> mib_li3pga: Clear the cache, or try a different browser
#1907 [16:10] <mr_trousers> [L] : Ha no, I did not download client. Or is that client ?
#1908 [16:10] <[L]> Cow: Don't ask for mods here, please ask in #risucraft
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#1910 [16:11] <[L]> mr_trousers: Minecraft has a client at: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1911 [16:11] <mib_li3pga> i tried clearing the cache, i even reset the browser, nothing
#1912 [16:12] <[L]> Permission to use it sounds like an issue with the browser or java
#1913 [16:12] <hatman> hello, my minecraft game just stopped working randomly. i have been playing it fine for a while but now when i log in yo play it it will shut down after ''mojang'' loading screen. does anyone hae any advise
#1914 [16:12] <[L]> hatman: Corrupt .jar file
#1915 [16:13] <hatman> what is that?
#1916 [16:13] <[L]> It means the files for minecraft may of glitched/corrupted themselves and require to be deleted.
#1917 [16:13] <[L]> Do you know how to get to them?
#1918 [16:14] <mr_trousers> [L] /Oh thank you thank you thank you thank you!
#1919 [16:14] <hatman> i have deleted all minecraft files and re-downloaded them but it still doesnt work if that is what you are reffering too?
#1920 [16:14] <xales> mib_li3pga: Try a differnt browser, then
#1921 [16:14] <[L]> mr_trousers: Quite
#1922 [16:14] <xales> ??> hatman win/reinst
#1923 [16:14] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1924 [16:14] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1925 [16:14] <[L]> hatman: By Minecraft files, you mean the ones over at ^?
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#1927 [16:15] <Myst> hi guys
#1928 [16:15] <xales> Hi.
#1929 [16:15] <Evan010> i cant contact ideal
#1930 [16:15] <Evan010> i tried so mutch thing
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#1932 [16:15] <Myst> got a bit of a problem with the minecraft display
#1933 [16:15] <[L]> Display?..
#1934 [16:16] <Myst> I got reccurent micro freeze
#1935 [16:16] <Myst> in the game
#1936 [16:16] <[L]> Micro freeze?
#1937 [16:16] <xales> Try turning down the graphics settings
#1938 [16:16] <Myst> i did
#1939 [16:16] <Myst> and it's not that
#1940 [16:16] <Myst> i got a really expensive PC and I've been playing for like 1 year
#1941 [16:16] <xales> You set it to "fast" graphics and "advanced opengl" to off?
#1942 [16:16] <Myst> it just tarted to happen a week ago
#1943 [16:17] <Myst> yup
#1944 [16:17] <xales> Do you have any mods installed?
#1945 [16:17] <Myst> nope
#1946 [16:17] <xales> ??> Myst win/reinst
#1947 [16:17] <VoxelHead> Myst: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1948 [16:17] <VoxelHead> Myst: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1949 [16:17] <NinjaKirby> lol
#1950 [16:17] <[L]> Slowdown may be caused due to faulty hardware or for other programs beginning to interfere, hm..
#1951 [16:17] <hatman> it worked!! thank you very much!
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#1953 [16:17] <Myst> its not a slow down
#1954 [16:17] <[L]> hatman: Happens
#1955 [16:17] <[L]> Or random freezing at any rate
#1956 [16:17] <NinjaKirby> "I have a proble-", "Reinstall Java, Drivers, Mincebeef & Win7"
#1957 [16:17] <Myst> ok
#1958 [16:18] <[L]> Mincebeef?
#1959 [16:18] <Myst> did for java and drivers 10 min ago
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#1961 [16:18] <Myst> ill try this %%%%&&&@@appdata!!!%%%$$$ thingy
#1962 [16:18] <NinjaKirby> Engage the Ovens, Mincebeef isn't getting enough heat to cook properly
#1963 [16:18] <_303> rage at new non random mibbit default nicks
#1964 [16:18] <[L]> No really.
#1965 [16:18] <[L]> Mincebeef?
#1966 [16:18] <NinjaKirby> Affirmative
#1967 [16:19] <Evan010> i think i buy it again
#1968 [16:19] <[L]> Evan010: You're better off waiting and buying Terraria
#1969 [16:19] <Evan010> it cost so mutch time to find it out
#1970 [16:19] <NinjaKirby> lol? You are seriously advising that?
#1971 [16:19] <[L]> I'm saying his money can go into something else in the meantime instead of wasting it and buying the game again
#1972 [16:20] <[L]> Terraria isn't that bad
#1973 [16:20] <[L]> People just shit on it just because it looks and plays like Minecraft
#1974 [16:20] <[L]> (Even though notch linked it.)_
#1975 [16:20] <Myst> arg
#1976 [16:20] <Myst> still freezing
#1977 [16:20] <[L]> Derp
#1978 [16:20] <Myst> the commands go through though
#1979 [16:20] <[L]> Through through.
#1980 [16:20] <Myst> during the freeze I can drop items
#1981 [16:21] <NinjaKirby> I have nothing against Terraria for the record.
#1982 [16:21] <Kealper> isn't Terraria 2d though?
#1983 [16:21] <[L]> So?
#1984 [16:21] <Myst> 2D through
#1985 [16:21] <[L]> By plays like, i mean: Mine blocks, get blocks, place blocks.
#1986 [16:21] <NinjaKirby> inb4 sheeyartstorm
#1987 [16:21] <Kealper> then it'd be like a flat Minecraft :P
#1988 [16:21] <Kealper> Myst: wut
#1989 [16:21] <Myst> nvm
#1990 [16:22] <mib_y80duc> some one help i bought the game it said it worked i waited 24 hours emails support and keep trying to log in help me how long will this take
#1991 [16:22] <Morrolan> [L]: Oh, it's actually kinda different from Minecraft. Sure, the idea is the same, but you don't complain that Halo and CoD are both shooters, right?
#1992 [16:22] <xales> Myst: Is this singleplayer, or multiplayer?
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#1994 [16:22] <Myst> it's both
#1995 [16:22] <xales> mib_y80duc: again, be patient
#1996 [16:22] <[L]> Morrolan: Mine blocks, get blocks >:(
#1997 [16:22] <Kealper> Never a miscommunication.
#1998 [16:22] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Morrolan: was worried you'd say MoH and CoD :P
#1999 [16:22] <Morrolan> [L]: Aim, shoot, kill <- Shooter ;)
#2000 [16:22] <[L]> Morrolan: Night time = Monsters >:(
#2001 [16:22] <NinjaKirby> CaptainSparklez probably says it best.
#2002 [16:23] <Myst> i even get this while in achievments panel when moving the mouse around
#2003 [16:23] <[L]> No wait, i know another game that does the nightime thing :l
#2004 [16:23] <Myst> nightime?
#2005 [16:23] <Myst> dotA!
#2006 [16:23] <[L]> But basically: Many many many people call it Minecraft 2D
#2007 [16:23] <Morrolan> [L]: Yeah. CAn't really understand it though.
#2008 [16:23] <[L]> It's surprisingly.. Really fun with friends.
#2009 [16:23] <Morrolan> I prefer Minecraft for various reasons, but it's kinda neat to play from time to time.
#2010 [16:24] <[L]> But the problem is if you look it up, you'll end up finding spoilers about things you don't want to know.
#2011 [16:24] <mib_y80duc> some one help i bought the game it said it worked i waited 24 hours emails support and keep trying to log in help me how long will this take
#2012 [16:24] <[L]> mib_y80duc: Stop spamming
#2013 [16:24] <xales> mib_y80duc: We heard you the first time. We can't help you. You just have to be patient.
#2014 [16:24] <Morrolan> mib_y80duc, you'll have to be patient, still.
#2015 [16:24] <Morrolan> Wait another day, and if it then doesn't work, come back.
#2016 [16:24] <[L]> Xales: The sad part is?
#2017 [16:25] <[L]> I'm so bored of Minecraft and wanting to get this update for 1.6, i'm considering Combat Arms
#2018 [16:25] <Evan010> ok guys, g2g to sleep.
#2019 [16:25] <Evan010> cya.
#2020 [16:25] <Morrolan> Cya
#2021 [16:25] <Morrolan> [L]: Hmm, funny thing is that I never really get bored of Minecraft. I mean, I don't play it for hours anymore, but I never completely stopped playing it.
#2022 [16:25] <Morrolan> I guess it really depends on the communtiy you're playing with.
#2023 [16:26] <[L]> I don't play online anymore
#2024 [16:26] <Morrolan> Oh.
#2025 [16:26] <Myst> ok i'm gonna uninstall everything 1 by 1
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#2027 [16:26] <Morrolan> Bad experience?
#2028 [16:26] <[L]> I spent my share of online time
#2029 [16:26] <[L]> Not really, i just got sick of it.
#2030 [16:26] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok.
#2031 [16:26] <Myst> what's the advantage of solo?
#2032 [16:26] <[L]> If you've played during the creative days, you know me.
#2033 [16:26] <Myst> I don't get it
#2034 [16:26] <[L]> Myst: no lag.
#2035 [16:26] <Myst> oh
#2036 [16:26] <NinjaKirby> I live in Solo
#2037 [16:26] <Myst> wtf
#2038 [16:27] <Myst> lag isn't that bad
#2039 [16:27] <Kealper> i don't get lag on my server >:D
#2040 [16:27] <[L]> Varies on who you're hosting
#2041 [16:27] <[L]> Some people get massive delay
#2042 [16:27] <[L]> Or short delay
#2043 [16:27] <Myst> I'm in France and my server is un USA and no problem whatsoever
#2044 [16:27] <[L]> Or no delay
#2045 [16:27] <Morrolan> Oh well, I'm afk again, physics is (are?) waiting.
#2046 [16:27] <[L]> It all varies on the internet connection of the server is running on. (That and the specs.)
#2047 [16:28] <Myst> k, it doesnt call for any argument anyway, just comparing opinions :)
#2048 [16:28] <[L]> I didn't know we were argueing.
#2049 [16:28] <Kealper> ^
#2050 [16:28] <Myst> i didn't feel that way either
#2051 [16:28] <Myst> just saying that pushing this further would be pointless
#2052 [16:28] <[L]> Oh ahem
#2053 [16:28] <[L]> Let me continue then
#2054 [16:29] <Myst> :D
#2055 [16:29] <[L]> FUCK YOU I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
#2056 [16:29] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#2057 [16:29] <[L]> Anyways
#2058 [16:29] <Kealper> lol
#2059 [16:29] <Myst> ^^
#2060 [16:29] <[L]> But yes, i spent my share of online. I'm done with Minecraft for now besides the private servers i visit.
#2061 [16:29] <[L]> Already did my forum thing, already created the official steam group.
#2062 [16:30] <[L]> No point but to stay here now
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#2064 [16:30] <Myst> well passions do come and go
#2065 [16:30] <[L]> Guess so.
#2066 [16:30] <Myst> wow, i'm getting really upset at my computer right now
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#2068 [16:30] <Myst> question:
#2069 [16:30] <[L]> :l
#2070 [16:30] <Myst> what resources does minecraft use?
#2071 [16:31] <Myst> like java, opengl
#2072 [16:31] <Myst> etc
#2073 [16:31] <[L]> Lag that bad shouldn't happen
#2074 [16:31] <[L]> Have you considered restarting?
#2075 [16:31] <Myst> u___u
#2076 [16:31] <Myst> yup
#2077 [16:31] <Myst> i did
#2078 [16:31] <[L]> Hm..
#2079 [16:31] <Myst> I'm a clean guy
#2080 [16:31] <Myst> no unprotected download
#2081 [16:31] <[L]> Minecraft slowdown and nothing else? A bit odd.
#2082 [16:31] <Myst> always put a condom on my usb key
#2083 [16:31] <Myst> yeah
#2084 [16:31] <[L]> Might be the world
#2085 [16:31] <[L]> Choose a new world.
#2086 [16:31] <Kealper> hmm...and what are your specs?
#2087 [16:31] <Myst> I play witcher 2 with full graphics
#2088 [16:32] <Myst> so are my specs :)
#2089 [16:32] <Myst> i7 2600K
#2090 [16:32] <Myst> DDR3 8GB
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#2092 [16:32] <Myst> ATI 6950
#2093 [16:32] <Myst> etc etc
#2094 [16:32] <Kealper> .......and you are getting less than 500FPS? lol
#2095 [16:32] <Myst> its not about fps
#2096 [16:32] <Myst> my fps are fine
#2097 [16:32] <Myst> just freezing for 1 sec periodicaly
#2098 [16:33] <xales> Myst: If it's not stuttering, that's probably normal
#2099 [16:33] <Myst> what does stuttering mean
#2100 [16:33] <xales> like freeze unfreeze freeze unfreeze
#2101 [16:33] <Myst> yeah
#2102 [16:33] <Kealper> freezing for like half a sec while you are generating new map is normal
#2103 [16:33] <Myst> it does stutter, with more unfreeze than freeze
#2104 [16:33] <Myst> but yeah
#2105 [16:33] <[L]> That uh..
#2106 [16:34] <[L]> That sounds like a hardware issue, but you claim it works with any other program.
#2107 [16:34] <Kealper> so it will do that while it's making new map, but it should only do it when you are exploring new areas
#2108 [16:34] <Myst> yeah
#2109 [16:34] <xales> Kealper: I haven't had any lag _whatsoever_ with the SSD :>
#2110 [16:34] <Kealper> >.>
#2111 [16:34] <xales> 350+FPS, no lag
#2112 [16:34] <xales> even world saving/loading is nearly instant
#2113 [16:34] <xales> :>
#2114 [16:34] <VoxelHead> :-)
#2115 [16:34] <Myst> me too
#2116 [16:34] <Myst> until a few days ago
#2117 [16:34] <Kealper> i need to get one :<
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#2119 [16:35] <xales> Kealper: if you do, you better put Arch on it
#2120 [16:35] <Myst> I realize this is a tough one, but maybe you know some programs that arent compatible with MC?
#2121 [16:35] <xales> ;_;
#2122 [16:35] <Myst> like, I dunno, the new .net redistributable
#2123 [16:35] <Myst> gosh i don't know
#2124 [16:35] <Kealper> Myst: try a new windows user profile
#2125 [16:35] <xales> Myst: if you have any antivirus or otherwise "computer security" software, try disabling it
#2126 [16:35] <Kealper> also, that
#2127 [16:36] <Myst> I just unsinstalled my windows security bullshit
#2128 [16:36] <Myst> It was like problem was fixed
#2129 [16:36] <Myst> but freezes occur just less often
#2130 [16:36] <Myst> (apparently)
#2131 [16:36] <NinjaKirby> All thats left is Zone Alarm
#2132 [16:36] <Myst> lol
#2133 [16:36] * Kealper shudders
#2133 [16:37] <NinjaKirby> Installed a decade ago, thinking it was a great idea!
#2134 [16:37] <zippity> hey i have a Radeon Xpress 200m and ive updated my drivers, ive dont everything to try and not get that bad drivers error but i continue to get it
#2135 [16:37] <Kealper> i've always hated ZA, even when it was cool back in 2000
#2136 [16:37] <xales> zippity: That card is...very, very old
#2137 [16:37] <xales> It won't be able to run Minecraft...sorry :(
#2138 [16:37] <Myst> zippity, maybe sell it in an antique store
#2139 [16:37] <zippity> so buy a new video card?
#2140 [16:37] <Kealper> yeah...uhh...an xpress 200m isn't going to cut it
#2141 [16:37] <Myst> could make money out of it
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#2143 [16:38] <xales> If your computer came with a 200m..
#2144 [16:38] <xales> you probably will need a new computer, it probably doesn't have enough RAM for a fast enough CPU
#2145 [16:38] <Kealper> it's probably a dell dimension lol
#2146 [16:38] <zippity> well it works for world of warcraft
#2147 [16:38] <xales> World of Warcraft isn't Minecraft, is it?
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#2149 [16:39] <xales> World of Warcraft is also designed to run on anything, but be able to look nice on good computers as well
#2150 [16:39] <Myst> they both fullfill the *craft regular expression
#2151 [16:39] <xales> anyway, back later
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#2153 [16:40] <zippity> how much is a new graffics card?
#2154 [16:40] <[L]> Graffics
#2155 [16:40] <mib_tpojvn> I am having problems with my log in. Is there a tech support phone number? The message says not a premium member
#2156 [16:40] <zippity> idc if i spelled it wrong
#2157 [16:40] <[L]> mib_tpojvn: You're obviously not premium
#2158 [16:41] <mib_tpojvn> We purchased it yesterday for $15. Never recall seeing anything asking about premium membership
#2159 [16:41] <[L]> Oh.
#2160 [16:41] <[L]> So let me get this straight
#2161 [16:41] <[L]> Buy minecraft, can play fine, but can't now?
#2162 [16:42] <zippity> how much is a desent grffics card
#2163 [16:42] <Myst> 150$
#2164 [16:42] <Morrolan> less
#2165 [16:42] <[L]> Varies
#2166 [16:42] <Myst> depend on "decent"
#2167 [16:43] <Morrolan> Oh, and depends on the current value of the dollar I guess. ^^
#2168 [16:43] <Myst> :D
#2169 [16:43] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2170 [16:43] <[L]> mib_tpojvn: If you can't play minecraft now, then it sounds like a glitch
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#2172 [16:43] <[L]> Unless all you did was play Creative
#2173 [16:43] <zippity> like one that will pay minecraft first of all and one that i can play lots of online games such as wow too
#2174 [16:43] <[L]> Sounds like you need a 256/512 card
#2175 [16:43] <Morrolan> [L]: Since he said that he purchased it though taht's unlikely.
#2176 [16:43] <Morrolan> that's*
#2177 [16:44] <[L]> Morrolan: True.
#2178 [16:44] <zippity> how much are 256/512 cards?
#2179 [16:44] <[L]> It varies
#2180 [16:44] <[L]> On where you get it, and the brand.
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#2182 [16:45] <zippity> k
#2183 [16:45] <[L]> I think AVG is slowing down my computer
#2184 [16:45] <zippity> so say i get it at a good place and its a alright brand can u gimme jus like a estimate?
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#2186 [16:46] <[L]> Don't ask me
#2187 [16:47] <Kealper> [L]: i've found AVG to not be very nice to computer speed on all setups i've seen with it on :/
#2188 [16:47] <Morrolan> zippity: Rough guess, 50-80 € maybe
#2189 [16:47] <Kealper> i think it's scans are just super inefficient or something
#2190 [16:47] <Morrolan> Would be like 80+ $
#2191 [16:47] <Morrolan> Maybe even cheaper if you're lucky.
#2192 [16:48] <[L]> Kealper: Give me a gooder anti virus
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#2194 [16:48] <Kealper> [L]: i like Avira, it doesn't rape resources
#2195 [16:48] <Morrolan> I'd go for Norton, but I don't want to start a flamewar, so I'll shut up. :p
#2196 [16:48] <[L]> Avira corrupted itself
#2197 [16:48] <[L]> But i'll try again
#2198 [16:49] <Kealper> weird, i've never had any issues with it :/
#2199 [16:49] <Kealper> well..one time when it's heuristic scanner called a program i was making a trojan and then deleted it as soon as i would try and compile it ._.
#2200 [16:50] <[L]> The setup never downloaded right
#2201 [16:52] <[L]> THREAT DETECTED, PLAYCLAW. Yeah uh.. No
#2202 [16:55] <Kealper> lol
#2203 [16:55] <[L]> Hell during the scan it called Avira out as a virus or something
#2204 [16:55] <Kealper> wait, AVG did? lol
#2205 [16:56] <[L]> Yes
#2206 [16:58] <Kealper> lol
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#2208 [16:59] <[L]> ...
#2209 [16:59] <[L]> WHY IS AVG TRYING TO UPDATE?
#2210 [16:59] <[L]> I'm trying to uninstall it
#2211 [16:59] <Kealper> lol.....
#2212 [16:59] <Kealper> AVG really doesn't like to be uninstalled :/
#2213 [17:00] <[L]> Yes
#2214 [17:00] <[L]> It takes longer to uninstall the damn thing than to install it
#2215 [17:00] <[L]> NO WAIT LET ME THINK ABOUT UNINSTALLING THAT
#2216 [17:00] <Kealper> XD
#2217 [17:01] <Jckf> You should try uninstalling Norton
#2218 [17:01] <Kealper> "I'll give you some extra time tp think about this, I want to make sure you are serious about uninstalling..."
#2219 [17:01] <Kealper> oh man
#2220 [17:01] <Kealper> Norton practically doesn't even uninstall
#2221 [17:01] <Jckf> It uses an hour to pretend so
#2222 [17:02] <Kealper> there is a good reason why you always see ISPs giving out Norton in their "free security suite"......
#2223 [17:02] <Jckf> Security Essentials <3
#2224 [17:02] <Kealper> that....is actually not that bad lol
#2225 [17:03] <[L]> So apparently
#2226 [17:03] <[L]> AVG needs to be restarted
#2227 [17:03] <Kealper> yes, yes it does
#2228 [17:03] <[L]> Er
#2229 [17:03] <[L]> I need to.
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#2234 [17:12] <[L]> Now then
#2235 [17:12] <Kealper> is AVG killed now? lol
#2236 [17:13] <[L]> Yep
#2237 [17:13] * Kealper can smell the freed-up CPU cycles from here
#2237 [17:14] <[L]> Well
#2238 [17:14] <[L]> Things seem to be back to normal, that is without the slow loading times and all that
#2239 [17:14] <Morrolan> If your CPU starts smelling it might be a good idea to buy a new noe. :p
#2240 [17:14] <Morrolan> one*
#2241 [17:14] <Kealper> [L]: if you trust yourself, you could just go without any antivirus installed
#2242 [17:15] <[L]> I have
#2243 [17:15] <[L]> But i figured i had to get one eventually
#2244 [17:15] <Kealper> i used to do it for years, but i just installed Avira when i got windows 7 when it came out, and never uninstalled it lol
#2245 [17:15] <[L]> Yes, i used this back in... What? '06?
#2246 [17:15] <Kealper> lol
#2247 [17:16] <[L]> I stopped using it cause it bogged up my slow pc back then
#2248 [17:19] <[L]> And now it's being updated
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#2250 [17:23] <VoxelHead> mmm trekkie1701c
#2251 [17:24] <g> bah
#2252 [17:24] <g> I wish it was summer
#2253 [17:25] <g> and I had no exams to worry about
#2254 [17:25] <g> ^ or to get in the way of coding
#2255 [17:25] <Kealper> lol
#2256 [17:25] <g> I'll be teaching my gf C++, lulz
#2257 [17:26] <Hatrix> e34:ee51:4670:34be:79c6:d809:6332 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :'nght
#2258 [17:26] <Kealper> that....does not sound fun lol
#2259 [17:26] * Kealper waves
#2259 [17:26] <Morrolan> And this, my dear, is my, euh, a pointer... Like this? :D
#2260 [17:27] <Kealper> lol
#2261 [17:29] <g> Kealper: You'd be surprised
#2262 [17:29] <g> She's a lot more computer literate than most people I knwo
#2263 [17:29] <g> know*
#2264 [17:30] <g> It shouldn't be too much trouble to get her started
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#2268 [17:38] <mib_ftj4me> hello?
#2269 [17:38] <Kealper> hi
#2270 [17:38] <[L]> Hey
#2271 [17:40] <mib_ftj4me> I am trying to play minecraft. when i click on single player, it won't let me play unless i install some ActiveX program. My computer refuses to download it. any help?
#2272 [17:41] <[L]> ActiveX?
#2273 [17:41] <[L]> Why does it refuse to download it?
#2274 [17:41] <[L]> Also, are you using Creative or Beta?
#2275 [17:43] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
#2276 [17:43] <mib_ftj4me> i am using the "classic" version right now to try out the game. It refuses to download because it says that the ActiveX program has no publisher
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#2279 [17:44] <m3gaman27> i'm in the help channel correct?
#2280 [17:44] <mib_dms7z0> Hello?
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#2282 [17:44] <m3gaman27> are you an admin of some sort?
#2283 [17:44] <SPaRT> hello
#2284 [17:44] <m3gaman27> Anybody an admin of some sore?
#2285 [17:44] <m3gaman27> sort?
#2286 [17:45] <SPaRT> we build a room fully of obsidian to get a zombie spawn room over there
#2287 [17:45] <SPaRT> no zombie is spawning there though... but why?
#2288 [17:45] <m3gaman27> you are speaking in the wrong channel
#2289 [17:46] <SPaRT> y?
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#2291 [17:46] <mib_ftj4me> can i get an answer to my question?
#2292 [17:48] <mib_dms7z0> i need help,every time i try to start playing a server on minecraft classic it always keeps saying org.lwjgl.LWJGLExeption:pixel forman not accelerated can someone help i really want to play but it wont let me
#2293 [17:48] <mib_dms7z0> :
#2294 [17:48] <mib_dms7z0> can anyone help me?
#2295 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_dms7z0 - Update your video drivers
#2296 [17:49] <mib_dms7z0> how?
#2297 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_dms7z0 - Do you know what video card you have?
#2298 [17:49] <m3gaman27> can anybody help me?
#2299 [17:49] <mib_dms7z0> no
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#2301 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_dms7z0 - What operating system are you using?
#2302 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> m3gaman27 - With what?
#2303 [17:49] <mib_ftj4me> what about me?
#2304 [17:49] <mib_dms7z0> uh Windows XP?
#2305 [17:50] <implord> hi all
#2306 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_dms7z0 - Please give me this, it'll let me help you
#2307 [17:50] <VoxelHead> Hiya implord.
#2308 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_dms7z0 win/dxdiag
#2309 [17:50] <VoxelHead> mib_dms7z0: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2310 [17:50] <VoxelHead> mib_dms7z0: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2311 [17:50] <m3gaman27> i need an admin to help me merge my minecraft forum accout with CurseID
#2312 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> m3gaman27 - We're not affiliated with the minecraft forums, try #minecraftforums
#2313 [17:50] <mib_ftj4me> I am trying to play minecraft. when i click on single player, it won't let me play unless i install some ActiveX program. My computer refuses to download it.
#2314 [17:50] * mib_m7khsy [mib_m7khsy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2315 [17:50] <implord> anyone know how to install mods to the server side of minecraft? i was trying to add the train_mod_server
#2316 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> implord - Try #bukkit
#2317 [17:51] <m3gaman27> but ain't this the help section?
#2318 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> m3gaman27 - Yes, for the core minecraft game.
#2319 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> m3gaman27 - The minecraft forums are part of the core game
#2320 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> aren't
#2321 [17:51] <implord> #bukkit
#2322 [17:51] <m3gaman27> thanks for clearifying it to me. Thank you
#2323 [17:51] <implord> i dont get it :(
#2324 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> implord - The #bukkit is another channel on this network
#2325 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> try: /join #bukkit
#2326 [17:52] <implord> oh.. lol sorry.. still new to irc
#2327 [17:53] <mib_ftj4me> I am trying to play minecraft. when i click on single player, it won't let me play unless i install some ActiveX program. My computer refuses to download it.
#2328 [17:53] <mib_ftj4me> help?
#2329 [17:54] <implord> there should be a thing at the top you can right click on to download that. if not i dont know ;(
#2330 [17:54] <mib_m7khsy> um i can no longer run the game it works untill i get to the mojang part then it exits out last thing i did that could mess it up is i had a 232-bit or some 200 number texture pack and switched to it with out changing it back to the default i also cant even play on the web site my screen freezes can some one help with that
#2331 [17:55] <implord> did you do the patch for the texture packs
#2332 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_m7khsy - Do you know how to remove the texture pack?
#2333 [17:55] * mib_09mnu8 [mib_09mnu8@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2334 [17:55] <mib_m7khsy> not with out starting it
#2335 [17:55] <mib_m7khsy> minecraft i mean
#2336 [17:55] <VoxelHead> i like them ;)
#2337 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> mib_m7khsy - What operating system are you on?
#2338 [17:56] <mib_m7khsy> windows
#2339 [17:56] <mib_m7khsy> 7
#2340 [17:56] <implord> its %app(something)%
#2341 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#2342 [17:56] <implord> %appdata%
#2343 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder
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#2345 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Delete the texturepacks folder inside, then start minecraft up again
#2346 [17:56] <mib_m7khsy> kk
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#2348 [17:57] <mib_tqd2td> VoxelHead, Xales, you still here?
#2349 [17:57] <VoxelHead> let me consult a fortune cookie
#2350 [17:57] * genshou has been consulted?
#2350 [17:57] <mib_tqd2td> I was here earlier, the guy with the recovered time machine backup and the bouncing minecraft which didn't wanna launch
#2351 [17:57] <mib_tqd2td> Thought you guys might be interested in the solution
#2352 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_tqd2td - chmod the .app?
#2353 [17:58] <mib_tqd2td> In fact the time machine recovery destroyed my java app
#2354 [17:58] <mib_tqd2td> Just like you said
#2355 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Ah, ouch
#2356 [17:58] <mib_tqd2td> Not a single applet would run
#2357 [17:58] <mib_tqd2td> I tried this and that, tried to remove and replace the Java installation
#2358 [17:58] <mib_dms7z0> wheres the IRC channel?
#2359 [17:58] <mib_tqd2td> Which I learned is rather tedious in MAC OSx
#2360 [17:58] <mib_m7khsy> ty it worked
#2361 [17:58] <mib_tqd2td> So after having killed the Java inst completely to the point where Java was gone
#2362 [17:59] <mib_dms7z0> Where is the IRC Channel!?
#2363 [17:59] <mib_tqd2td> I reinstalled OS x over my current installation
#2364 [17:59] <mib_tqd2td> And now it works like a charm
#2365 [17:59] <mib_dms7z0> :(
#2366 [17:59] <mib_tqd2td> Old settings are still here
#2367 [17:59] <mib_tqd2td> Nothing lost
#2368 [17:59] <mib_tqd2td> Minecraft is up and running again
#2369 [17:59] <mib_tqd2td> Thanks for the help guys
#2370 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_tqd2td - Good to hear
#2371 [17:59] <mib_dms7z0> Someone tell me where the IRC channel is!:(
#2372 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> What IRC channel?
#2373 [18:00] <[L]> You're in #minecrafthelp
#2374 [18:00] <[L]> Where are you looking to go to?
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#2376 [18:00] <mib_tqd2td> So just for you as an information - restoring OSX from time machine _can_ corrupt the java installation. Reinstalling OSX helps, doesn't seem to overwrite any old settings.
#2377 [18:00] <mib_dms7z0> Someone told me to go to some IRC channel but i dont know where or wha it is
#2378 [18:00] <mib_tqd2td> Nighty night
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#2380 [18:01] <mib_dms7z0> :/
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#2382 [18:01] <vex> can not create java virtual machine
#2383 [18:01] <[L]> mib_dms7z0: For what?
#2384 [18:01] <vex> any help?
#2385 [18:01] <AndrewPH|AFK> mib_dms7z0: We can all read that person's mind and know exactly what you're talking about
#2386 [18:01] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :~(
#2387 [18:01] <vex> installation
#2388 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_dms7z0 - I wanted you to give us a dxdiag
#2389 [18:01] <Guest54546> I bought the game and downloaded it but I can't open the file.
#2390 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> So we could determine what video card you had
#2391 [18:02] <mib_dms7z0> oh
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#2393 [18:02] <mib_dms7z0> where is the IRC channel then?
#2394 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> IRC channel for what?
#2395 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> You're currently in an IRC channel, #minecrafthelp
#2396 [18:03] <Guest54546> Does anybody know why I can't open the file?
#2397 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Guest54546 - What happens?
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#2399 [18:03] <vex> Hi, so im trying to instal minecraft and i get "Could not create java virtual machine" anybody know what to do?
#2400 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> vex - Reinstall java.
#2401 [18:03] <vex> okie dokie
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#2403 [18:05] <mib_dms7z0> ooc GreyVulpine
#2404 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Guest54546 - What happens when you try to open minecraft?
#2405 [18:05] <mib_dms7z0> here it is
#2406 [18:05] <mib_dms7z0> http://pastebin.com/huAZU0cU
#2407 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Holy crap.
#2408 [18:05] <Guest54546> I bought the game, downloaded it, attempted to open it, and got nothin'. I couldn't login.
#2409 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> That machine's not going to be able to run minecraft mib_dms7z0
#2410 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> It's very, very old
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#2412 [18:06] <mib_dms7z0> so how do i make it able to run minecraft?
#2413 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_dms7z0 - Buy a new computer
#2414 [18:06] <mib_dms7z0> :(
#2415 [18:07] <mib_dms7z0> do you just need a good video card driver to be able to run minecraft?
#2416 [18:07] <Guest54546> I've got the same question.
#2417 [18:07] <vex> ok i reinstalled java and i get the same thing
#2418 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_dms7z0 - You need a better computer in general
#2419 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> vex - What operating system are you on?
#2420 [18:07] <mib_dms7z0> how much better?
#2421 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_dms7z0 - Any computer from this decade
#2422 [18:07] <vex> window 7 x64
#2423 [18:07] <Guest54546> It's trying to make me buy something else the will allow me to run it.
#2424 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> vex - Do you have the latest service pack for it?
#2425 [18:08] <vex> hmm lemme check
#2426 [18:08] <Guest54546> English?
#2427 [18:08] <mib_dms7z0> well...thanks for the help:) kinda...
#2428 [18:09] <mib_dms7z0> i have another computer harddrive here but idk if it could also run minecraft
#2429 [18:09] <mib_dms7z0> it has a better video card driver
#2430 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_dms7z0 - A new hard drive won't work
#2431 [18:09] <mib_dms7z0> why?
#2432 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_dms7z0 - You need an entirely new computer, more RAM, better video card
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#2434 [18:10] <mib_dms7z0> RAM?
#2435 [18:10] <vex> i think he is a troll
#2436 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes, RAM
#2437 [18:10] <AndrewPH> A better hard drive won't help because you're not smart and you should feel bad. Have a nice day.
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#2439 [18:10] <Kealper> ....lol
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#2446 [18:23] <Blackstar> I need help .-.
#2447 [18:23] <guacamole> hello i have a problem every time i try to load my hd minecraft pack my minecraft crashes
#2448 [18:24] <Carnivoris> i just downloaded the server executable and I can't connect to it. Lost connection in the server console, the game reports it as a Bad login. any solution to this?
#2449 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - Then you didn't install the hd texture patch right
#2450 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Carnivoris - Can you connect to any other servers?
#2451 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> ??> Blackstar ask
#2452 [18:24] <VoxelHead> Blackstar: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2453 [18:24] <VoxelHead> Blackstar: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2454 [18:24] <guacamole> i did i followed instructions and it does not work
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#2456 [18:24] <Blackstar> I can log in fine, start a world, but after 5 seconds it crashes
#2457 [18:24] <Carnivoris> GreyVulpine: yes, i can connect to all the other servers i've tried
#2458 [18:24] <guacamole> and also if i do it normal with out hd it wont work on lb photorealism
#2459 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Carnivoris - Try a Force Update in your launcher's options menu
#2460 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Running any mods?
#2461 [18:25] <guacamole> nope
#2462 [18:25] <corruptdarkstar> im trying to download minecraft classic but i dont know how!
#2463 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> corruptdarkstar - You can't download minecraft classic
#2464 [18:25] <Carnivoris> what? i dont see where that is
#2465 [18:25] <corruptdarkstar> why?
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#2467 [18:25] <Blackstar> no sir
#2468 [18:25] <mr_boo> hi
#2469 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> corruptdarkstar - There is a classic World of Minecraft client, but that's a third party client, and we don't support it
#2470 [18:25] <Carnivoris> nm, found it
#2471 [18:26] <corruptdarkstar> darn
#2472 [18:26] <mr_boo> I run a server and got an error today
#2473 [18:26] <corruptdarkstar> so creative is classic right
#2474 [18:26] <mr_boo> here is the irl to imgur http://imgur.com/8syW8
#2475 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - Try a Force Update through your launcher's options menu
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#2477 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> And try the HD texture patcher again
#2478 [18:26] <mr_boo> i have no clue what is wrong
#2479 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> corruptdarkstar Yes
#2480 [18:26] <guacamole> okay ill try again
#2481 [18:26] <corruptdarkstar> well ok thanks
#2482 [18:26] <Blackstar> I'm not running any mods
#2483 [18:27] <guacamole> what is the download link in case i got it wrong
#2484 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - For? The hd texture patch?
#2485 [18:27] <guacamole> yeah
#2486 [18:28] <Carnivoris> i did a force update now the game crashes just after the Mojang logo :/
#2487 [18:28] <corruptdarkstar> is the piston mod free for beta
#2488 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-update-51bettergrass-mcpatcher-hd-fix-201/
#2489 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> corruptdarkstar - Yes
#2490 [18:28] <guacamole> thanks and how do i intall it
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#2492 [18:28] <corruptdarkstar> how do i get it?
#2493 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - Read the thread
#2494 [18:29] <guacamole> yeah i did it like that and it didnot work
#2495 [18:29] <guacamole> let me try again
#2496 [18:29] <Blackstar> I can only play the browser version without it crashing, but I would much much rather play the downloadable version, but it crashes
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#2498 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Do you get a crash report?
#2499 [18:30] <Blackstar> no
#2500 [18:30] <Blackstar> however
#2501 [18:31] <corruptdarkstar> how do i get the piston mod on beta 1.5?
#2502 [18:31] <Blackstar> i get a notepad icon on the desktop that sais fatal error has occured
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#2504 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> corruptdarkstar - You'd need to look it up
#2505 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> corruptdarkstar - Try #risucraft, they'll be able to help you with mods there
#2506 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Can you open up that notepad?
#2507 [18:32] <Carnivoris> i didnt have any troubles until i ran the server executable. now i can't even open the game without it crashing. what's the deal here?
#2508 [18:32] <Blackstar> one moment
#2509 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Carnivoris - Try deleting the /world/ folder of the server and relaunching it
#2510 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Carnivoris - The Server and client are two seperate entities
#2511 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Carnivoris - You can't use the client to host a server, and you can't use the server to play minecraft, they're seperate
#2512 [18:33] <guacamole> my minecraft is frozen now
#2513 [18:33] <Carnivoris> so.. you can't run the server on the same machine you're running the client on? that's lame
#2514 [18:33] <mr_boo> im not sure if the world just crashed, and if do i just redownload the server? http://imgur.com/8syW8
#2515 [18:33] <Carnivoris> and, no, that didn't fix it
#2516 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Carnivoris - No, you can
#2517 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - Did it freeze when you tried a "Force Update", or when you tried to install the mod
#2518 [18:33] <guacamole> and now it quit on me
#2519 [18:34] <guacamole> install the texure packet
#2520 [18:34] <guacamole> idraged it to my texture packet and it froze
#2521 [18:34] <Carnivoris> i know how server/client architecture works, you're not talking to someone who doesn't know what those words mean :)
#2522 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - Then remove it
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#2524 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Carnivoris - Sorry, we get all kinds of people here
#2525 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Carnivoris - Force update didn't fix it?
#2526 [18:34] <Carnivoris> im a network engineer and programmer, just to give you an idea of my knowledge level
#2527 [18:34] <Carnivoris> no, it didnt
#2528 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Carnivoris - Can you tell me what OS you're on?
#2529 [18:34] <guacamole> okay did it
#2530 [18:34] <Carnivoris> windows 7
#2531 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Carnivoris - Start -> %appdata% in your search bar
#2532 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Look for the .minecraft folder
#2533 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything but the saves folder
#2534 [18:35] <Carnivoris> java version 6, update 25
#2535 [18:35] <Carnivoris> ok
#2536 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Restart minecraft
#2537 [18:35] <corruptdarkstar> oh my god there is so many awesome mods!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2538 [18:36] <Carnivoris> er... now its not liking my login credentials
#2539 [18:36] <ElliotH100995> minecraft has suddenly stopped working when i launch the game it will close the game a few seconds later, it automatically closes again, just before this i was using adventurecraft mod/program and this happened to it aswell
#2540 [18:36] <guacamole> i removed the texure packet
#2541 [18:36] <Carnivoris> nevermind, there we go
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#2543 [18:37] <Blackstar> Im not getting the notepad anymore
#2544 [18:37] <Blackstar> but it keeps on crashing
#2545 [18:38] <ElliotH100995> any advice?
#2546 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> ElliotH100995 - Can you try removing the mod?
#2547 [18:39] <guacamole> i did
#2548 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Can you try reinstalling minecraft?
#2549 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - Does it work?
#2550 [18:39] <Blackstar> have done many times
#2551 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - How?
#2552 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Did you delete .minecraft?
#2553 [18:40] <Blackstar> deleting the minecraft client and the .minecraft folder and restarting the installation
#2554 [18:40] <ElliotH100995> no it dosn't actually have anything to do with minecraft.jar etc it;s a different application based on minecraft
#2555 [18:40] <guacamole> my minecraft works but the texture packet doesnot and the regular one from lb photolealism doesnot work either with out hd
#2556 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> ElliotH100995 - Sorry, we mainly only deal with the core minecraft game here.
#2557 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> I don't know much about other clients.
#2558 [18:40] <Carnivoris> that got it, i'm working again, thanks :)
#2559 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Carnivoris - Good to know, thanks.
#2560 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Glad you got it working
#2561 [18:41] <ElliotH100995> i know but now minecraft stopped working too :(
#2562 [18:41] <Blackstar> any suggestions on what else i can do?
#2563 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - You deleted the entire .minecraft folder as well as the launcher and started fresh?
#2564 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - And it still doesn't work?
#2565 [18:42] <Blackstar> yes.
#2566 [18:42] <Blackstar> no sir =/
#2567 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Then, I'd look into completely uninstalling and reinstalling java.
#2568 [18:42] <Blackstar> okay i will try that
#2569 [18:42] <ElliotH100995> any tips 4 me?
#2570 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - The HD texture packs require the hd texture patch to work. Otherwise minecraft will crash like yours is doing
#2571 [18:43] <guacamole> yeah but on lb photo realism there are 3 texture packets 2 normal and 1 HD
#2572 [18:44] <Blackstar> may i ask how to uninstall java?
#2573 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Depends on your OS
#2574 [18:44] <Blackstar> running windows XP home edition
#2575 [18:45] <corruptdarkstar> ok i have tried to download the portal gun mod but its not doing anything
#2576 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> corruptdarkstar - You'll need to contact #risucraft for support on mods
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#2578 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Start -> control panel -> add/remove programs -> look for anything related to java
#2579 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - You can then reinstall java from java.com
#2580 [18:46] <corruptdarkstar> i clicked on that and it did nothing
#2581 [18:46] <Blackstar> okay thankyou =3
#2582 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> corruptdarkstar - Type in your client: /join #risucraft
#2583 [18:46] <corruptdarkstar> oh
#2584 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - And which one were you trying to use?
#2585 [18:47] <Blackstar> i will be gone temporarily as i must close all browser windows
#2586 [18:47] <guacamole> any one i can use but perfarably hd
#2587 [18:47] <guacamole> but niether will work
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#2589 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - One moment, lemme look it up
#2590 [18:48] <ElliotH100995> So what can i do to fix minecraft ive redownloaded, restrored .minecraft folder and updated my java?
#2591 [18:48] <mib_y80duc> some one help i bought the game it said it worked i waited 24 hours emails support and keep trying to log in help me how long will this take
#2592 [18:48] <zucchini> i need some directions to set up my server
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#2594 [18:49] <zucchini> please
#2595 [18:49] <Kealper> ??> zucchini smp/serversetup
#2596 [18:49] <VoxelHead> zucchini: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#2597 [18:49] <VoxelHead> zucchini: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2598 [18:49] <VoxelHead> i like them :o)
#2599 [18:49] <zucchini> thx
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#2604 [18:51] <mib_y80duc> hello?
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#2607 [18:51] <ElliotH100995> minecraft has suddenly stopped working when i launch the game it will close the game a few seconds later, it automatically closes again, just before this i was using adventurecraft mod/program and this happened to it aswell
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#2610 [18:51] <Redstar> blackstar here
#2611 [18:51] <mib_2xde3y> what to do if controls dont work?
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#2615 [18:55] <Redstar> GreyVulpine - would u recommend i reinstall minecraft aswell?
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#2620 [18:58] <mib_k9h482> help?
#2621 [18:58] <mib_r0lf6w> Yes
#2622 [18:58] <mib_k9h482> what if the controls for moving or anything else dont work but, the mouse makes ur pointer move uncontrollably
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#2624 [19:00] <mib_k9h482> ?
#2625 [19:00] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_k9h482 phantominput
#2626 [19:00] <VoxelHead> mib_k9h482: (phantominput) If you installed some utility from Comcast, and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, emancipate it.
#2627 [19:00] <guacamole> did you get it?
#2628 [19:00] <mib_k9h482> how do u do that?
#2629 [19:01] <mib_k9h482> i only have the alpha verison
#2630 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> mib_k9h482: add/remove programs.
#2631 [19:01] <mib_k9h482> haha alright thanks
#2632 [19:01] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: "some utility from Comcast" should be renamed to "Constant Guard by Comcast" or something, as that's its full name
#2633 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: thanks, I was looking for its name.
#2634 [19:01] <Kealper> found this out on my recent internet purchase lol
#2635 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> ??~ phantominput|If you installed 'Constant Guard by Comcast' and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, uninstall it. This is a known issue.
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#2638 [19:03] <fuogo> when i run minecraft, i try to open up the texture pack and mods option on the main screen, but the game freezes, then quits
#2639 [19:03] <Richie001> Can someone help me to get minecraft work on my computer? The game loads, but it looks messed up like when a NES game messed up and all you see are weird colors.
#2640 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> Richie001: go into options, and turn off 3D Anaglyph mode
#2641 [19:03] <Richie001> On Minecraft or on my computer?
#2642 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> fuogo: did you recently try to install some mods or texture packs?
#2643 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> Richie001: in Minecraft itself
#2644 [19:04] <Richie001> Ok, thank you.
#2645 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> \o
#2646 [19:04] <fuogo> yeah not more then 5 minutes ago. i got a texture pack
#2647 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> fuogo: what OS are you running? Windows?
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#2649 [19:04] <fuogo> what do you mean
#2650 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> fuogo: is your computer running windows? or some other operating system?
#2651 [19:05] <fuogo> Dell, windows
#2652 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> ??> fuogo win/.minecraft
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#2654 [19:05] <VoxelHead> fuogo: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#2655 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> In that directory, delete 'bin' and 'texturepacks'
#2656 [19:06] <fuogo> ok then i derleted everything, now what
#2657 [19:06] <fuogo> deleted*
#2658 [19:06] <fuogo> will it work now?
#2659 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> go go gadget attention span
#2660 [19:08] <ElliotH100995> minecraft has suddenly stopped working when i launch the game it will close the game a few seconds later, it automatically closes again
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#2663 [19:10] <ElliotH100995> any advice?
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#2665 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> Sure I have advice: wait more than 90 seconds for an answer. Oh wait, you're gone.
#2666 [19:13] <Kealper> lo
#2667 [19:13] <Kealper> lol*
#2668 [19:13] <Kealper> http://www.dealextreme.com/p/stylish-re-useable-plastic-frame-and-lens-red-cyan-3d-glasses-37090 ooo....fancy, and 2 cents cheaper
#2669 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> Hm.
#2670 [19:14] <Kealper> actually, wait....
#2671 [19:14] <Kealper> some of the comments on that one are saying that the color is a tad off...lol
#2672 [19:15] * Kealper looks at the bit more expensive ones again
#2672 [19:16] <mib_y80duc> some one help i bought the game it said it worked i waited 24 hours emails support and keep trying to log in help me how long will this take
#2673 [19:16] <Kealper> mib_y80duc: when did you email support?
#2674 [19:17] <mib_y80duc> 3-4 hours ago
#2675 [19:17] <Kealper> hmm....it might take a while to get an email back then
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#2677 [19:18] <Kealper> it was already around 7-8 at night where Mojang is located when you emailed them :/
#2678 [19:18] <Kealper> so they will probably get to your email when they go in to work tomorrow :/
#2679 [19:18] <mib_y80duc> ugh have any estimation they said it was being reviewed but i bet a bot sends that out saying they got it
#2680 [19:18] <Blackstar> Is GreyVulpine active currently?
#2681 [19:19] <Kealper> mib_y80duc: i'd say probably 12-16 hours...unfortunately
#2682 [19:19] <Kealper> Blackstar: if he didn't respond from that, probably not
#2683 [19:19] <Blackstar> okay
#2684 [19:19] <mib_y80duc> dang lots like another day i need to wait
#2685 [19:20] <Blackstar> well i need help because my minecraft crashes everytime it loads my worlds
#2686 [19:20] <Kealper> Blackstar: all worlds? or current ones?
#2687 [19:20] <Kealper> (have you tried making a new world?)
#2688 [19:20] <Blackstar> any world i create
#2689 [19:20] <Blackstar> and yes i have tried
#2690 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I'm back, hate it when this network explodes
#2691 [19:21] <Kealper> D:
#2692 [19:21] <Blackstar> GreyVulpine i reinstalled java
#2693 [19:21] <Blackstar> no luck
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#2695 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Hmm, what was the original problem again?
#2696 [19:21] <Blackstar> yes
#2697 [19:21] <Blackstar> oh XD
#2698 [19:21] <Blackstar> my bad
#2699 [19:21] <Blackstar> i can log in and get into my world fine
#2700 [19:22] <Blackstar> but
#2701 [19:22] <Blackstar> after about 5 seconds minecraft just exits
#2702 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Ah, right, and you reinstalling minecraft didn't do anything.
#2703 [19:22] <Blackstar> no
#2704 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> You said you weren't running any mods
#2705 [19:22] <Blackstar> correct
#2706 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> And you couldn't get at the text file of the error.
#2707 [19:23] <Blackstar> correct again
#2708 [19:23] <Blackstar> my father deleted the previous ones out of frustration =/
#2709 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> It would help if we were able to see that error.
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#2711 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#2712 [19:23] <Kealper> wait!
#2713 [19:23] <Blackstar> i could keep trying...
#2714 [19:23] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: browser plugin java console
#2715 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps. sure.
#2716 [19:24] <Kealper> or is java actually crashing?
#2717 [19:24] <WackoTrogladite> i need some help with my serveer
#2718 [19:24] <Kealper> WackoTrogladite: what sort of help?
#2719 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Can you try playing minecraft using the in-browser version at minecraft.net
#2720 [19:24] <Blackstar> yes
#2721 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> When minecraft loads, there should be a coffee cup icon in the lower right of your task bar, near the clock
#2722 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Does minecraft run in the browser? Does it crash?
#2723 [19:24] <WackoTrogladite> ok. i open minecraft up, and when it gets to the majong screen, it closes
#2724 [19:24] <Blackstar> only on occasion
#2725 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Bah, we're looking for it to crash again, so you can get at that error
#2726 [19:25] <Blackstar> okay
#2727 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Could you try the downloaded client again, see if it crashes?
#2728 [19:25] <Blackstar> yup
#2729 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> If you are able to get at the error, it would help to pastebin.com it, give us the URL so we can see the error it generates
#2730 [19:25] <Kealper> WackoTrogladite: uhh...i thought you said you needed server help lol
#2731 [19:26] <Kealper> WackoTrogladite: did you install any mods?
#2732 [19:26] <WackoTrogladite> not server sorry haha. i meant my actual game. i installed a texture pack
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#2734 [19:27] <Kealper> WackoTrogladite: go in to %appdata%\.minecraft
#2735 [19:27] <Kealper> WackoTrogladite: delete the texturepacks folder, restart minecraft
#2736 [19:27] <WackoTrogladite> how do i get to the app data thing
#2737 [19:27] <Blackstar> cant get the error again
#2738 [19:28] <Kealper> WackoTrogladite: what version of windows are you running?
#2739 [19:28] <Blackstar> is there a way to recover a deleted file?
#2740 [19:28] <WackoTrogladite> windows 7
#2741 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Depends on how it was deleted, check your recycle bin?
#2742 [19:28] <Blackstar> my dad deleted that too
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#2744 [19:29] <Kealper> WackoTrogladite: click on your start button, and type into the search thing %appdata%\.minecraft and press enter
#2745 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Does this happen all the time, or only sometimes/
#2746 [19:29] <calatalee> how do you accept the dialog thingy if u denied it the first time
#2747 [19:29] <Blackstar> crashing?
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#2749 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - yes
#2750 [19:29] <Blackstar> all the time
#2751 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> calatalee - Clear your browser's cache and history
#2752 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Does it generate an error each time?
#2753 [19:30] <Vex> Hi, i was here earlier i am trying to instal minecraft, when i click the .exe i get this message "Could not create Java virtual machine" i am running window 7 x64 with the updated service pack. Please help
#2754 [19:30] <Blackstar> not as yet today
#2755 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Vex - Have you completely uninstalled and reinstalled java?
#2756 [19:30] <Vex> i just reinstalled
#2757 [19:30] <Vex> i will do that now
#2758 [19:30] <WackoTrogladite> it worked! thank you sooo much!
#2759 [19:31] <Kealper> WackoTrogladite: np lol
#2760 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - The only other solution I can suggest is try looking into updating your video card drivers.
#2761 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Without an error report, I really don't have a specific solution for you.
#2762 [19:31] <Blackstar> umm
#2763 [19:31] <Blackstar> if it helps
#2764 [19:31] <Blackstar> my father did some troubleshooting here the other day
#2765 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Could you tell us what he did?
#2766 [19:31] <Blackstar> and someone led him to pastebin and everything
#2767 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Alright.
#2768 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Can you share any of that with us?
#2769 [19:32] <Blackstar> and we ended up with a DxDiag NotePad thing
#2770 [19:32] * Kealper buys some reusable plastic 3d glasses
#2770 [19:32] <Blackstar> want me to just copy and paste?
#2771 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Can you copy and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#2772 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL to it.. prevents flooding the channel
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#2774 [19:33] <Blackstar> okay
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#2776 [19:33] <Iconic255> can i get some help with creating a server?
#2777 [19:34] <Blackstar> http://pastebin.com/0y7VqmJP
#2778 [19:34] <mib_0bigb1> how do i accept the dialog permissins applet thing if i denied it the first time
#2779 [19:35] <mib_0bigb1> ???
#2780 [19:36] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :(
#2781 [19:36] <Blackstar> =/
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#2783 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Hmm, yeah, I'd start with your video drivers
#2784 [19:37] <Vex> Hi, i was here earlier i am trying to instal minecraft, when i click the .exe i get this message "Could not create Java virtual machine" i am running window 7 x64 with the updated service pack, i also uninstalled java and reinstalled it. Please Help
#2785 [19:37] <mib_8cndfw> hi can someone help me with running minecraft?
#2786 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - You've got a RADEON X600 256MB HyperMemory, with drivers from 2005
#2787 [19:37] <Blackstar> what do i have to do with my video drivers?
#2788 [19:37] <Blackstar> so... buy new video drivers?
#2789 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Nope, the video drivers for you are at: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#2790 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Use the Full software suite
#2791 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> (Drivers are usually free to update)
#2792 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_8cndfw - If you tell us what's wrong, possibly
#2793 [19:38] <mib_8cndfw> Can anyone help me with running minecraft?
#2794 [19:39] <Blackstar> catalyst software suite?
#2795 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Vex - Could you give me a dxdiag?
#2796 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Yes
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#2798 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> ??> Vex win/dxdiag
#2799 [19:39] <VoxelHead> Vex: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2800 [19:39] <implord> join #bukkit
#2801 [19:39] <VoxelHead> Vex: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2802 [19:39] <mib_8cndfw> um, when i try to run minecraft it keeps freezing when ti gets to the mojang and soon automatically closes itself
#2803 [19:39] <implord> mib, did you change the textures?
#2804 [19:40] <mib_8cndfw> yes, i tried to
#2805 [19:40] <implord> then you have to use the patcher
#2806 [19:40] <mib_8cndfw> where can i find the patcher?
#2807 [19:40] <Blackstar> the catalyst software suite GreyVulpine?
#2808 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-update-51bettergrass-mcpatcher-hd-fix-201/
#2809 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Yes
#2810 [19:40] <Blackstar> okay
#2811 [19:40] <implord> TY grey
#2812 [19:40] <mib_8cndfw> thanks =]
#2813 [19:40] <Blackstar> run... save?
#2814 [19:41] <implord> run
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#2816 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Save it to your computer, then run it to install it
#2817 [19:41] <implord> sorry, thought he ment something else
#2818 [19:42] <Blackstar> wont let me save it in My Computer
#2819 [19:43] <Blackstar> saved it in C: drive
#2820 [19:44] <implord> sorry to ask here, but no one is taling on the #bukkit channel. can anyone give me a helping hand adding airship to server side
#2821 [19:45] <Iconic255> i need help setting up a server
#2822 [19:45] <Blackstar> just wondering, GreyVulpine but how did u know where to find updates for my driver?
#2823 [19:45] <Blackstar> google it? xD
#2824 [19:45] <implord> thats was kinda easy. what you having issues with
#2825 [19:45] <implord> black, i have googled it :(
#2826 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Basically, yes
#2827 [19:46] <Blackstar> l00l
#2828 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - After you gave me your dxdiag, it contained what video card you have
#2829 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> It's an ati video card, so I went to ATI.com
#2830 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Drivers are easy to find from there, using their wizard.
#2831 [19:46] <implord> sorry black, miss read
#2832 [19:47] <Blackstar> has not passed Windows Logo testing to verify its compatibility with Windows XP
#2833 [19:47] <mib_8cndfw> thanks its working now
#2834 [19:47] <Blackstar> run anyway?
#2835 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> yes.
#2836 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Yes
#2837 [19:47] <Blackstar> okie doke =3
#2838 [19:48] <Blackstar> if this messes up my dads comp im sooooo screwed xDD
#2839 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - It generally won't
#2840 [19:48] <Blackstar> if it works
#2841 [19:49] <Blackstar> i owe you my gratitude (what does gratitude mean? xD)
#2842 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> !def gratitude
#2843 [19:49] <GreyBot> Word cannot be found.
#2844 [19:49] <Blackstar> aww
#2845 [19:49] <Iconic255> can i get help?
#2846 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Iconic255 - With?
#2847 [19:49] <Iconic255> Server
#2848 [19:49] <Iconic255> creating one
#2849 [19:49] <Blackstar> !def hunger
#2850 [19:49] <GreyBot> Word cannot be found.
#2851 [19:50] <Iconic255> i tried port forwarding reset my world and everything but it wont connect
#2852 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#2853 [19:50] <Iconic255> i dont know what im doing wrong
#2854 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Iconic255 - What IP are you connecting with?
#2855 [19:50] <Blackstar> i have to restart my computer
#2856 [19:50] <Blackstar> be right back GrayVulpine
#2857 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Alright
#2858 [19:51] <Blackstar> GreyVulpine *
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#2861 [19:51] <Iconic255> my ip? do i need to connect with the gateway or ipv4?
#2862 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Iconic255 - The IPv4 of the computer running the server?
#2863 [19:51] <mib_45ij9k> i have tried to download a mod but the mod folder it describes is not there
#2864 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - Try #risucraft, they'll be able to help you with mods better
#2865 [19:52] <Iconic255> GOT IT :D
#2866 [19:52] <Iconic255> thanks lol
#2867 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Iconic255 - Sure.
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#2869 [19:53] <mib_45ij9k> i tried going to him but i got stuck with a computer helper that wouldnt anwser me
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#2871 [19:54] <mib_45ij9k> so what do i do?
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#2873 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - I guess, describe your problem. What mod are you trying to install?
#2874 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Where are you getting stuck?
#2875 [19:55] <Vex> I cannot get my Dxdiag info because the program's progess bar is not finished, its been a long time, this has been quick in the past
#2876 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> What don't you understand?
#2877 [19:55] <Vex> nvm scratch my last
#2878 [19:55] <mib_45ij9k> portal gunv3
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#2881 [19:56] <Blackstar> okay
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#2883 [19:57] <Blackstar> so my video drivers are now up to date
#2884 [19:57] <Blackstar> so im going to try minecraft -o
#2885 [19:57] <Blackstar> =o*
#2886 [19:57] <Blackstar> GreyVulpine why is it the drivers when i can play it in browser
#2887 [19:57] <Blackstar> im a noob with computers
#2888 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - There could be any number of reasons.
#2889 [19:58] <mib_45ij9k> so do you know what to do?
#2890 [19:58] <Blackstar> name a few? xD
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#2893 [19:59] <Blackstar> grevulpine
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#2895 [19:59] <Vex> Hi, i was here earlier. I am trying to instal minecraft but when i click the .exe i get this message "Could not create Java virtual machine". I have uninstalled and reinstalled Java, updated my Windows 7 x64 to the up to date service pack and this is my Dxdiag: http://pastebin.com/viiDZ38e
#2896 [19:59] <Blackstar> ur the best =O
#2897 [19:59] <mib_4ms75y> i need help, who can help me?
#2898 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - ?
#2899 [20:00] <Blackstar> it woooorks!
#2900 [20:00] <implord> i need help too :( cant get the airship in mp.. lol
#2901 [20:00] <VoxelHead> I like you -_-
#2902 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Neat, glad to hear it
#2903 [20:00] <Blackstar> ur the best! *highfives GreyVulpine*
#2904 [20:00] <mib_45ij9k> oh i didnt know it said when i got off when ever i changed tabs
#2905 [20:00] <mib_4ms75y> helo
#2906 [20:00] <mib_45ij9k> so help?
#2907 [20:00] <mib_4ms75y> who can help me?
#2908 [20:00] <implord> whats wrong
#2909 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> So.. many mib users.
#2910 [20:01] <mib_45ij9k> lol
#2911 [20:01] <Blackstar> i use mib >=D
#2912 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> At least I can distinguish you from the rest.. >.>
#2913 [20:01] <Denzei> Hello people, I've run into a problem when hosting a server. For some reason I have no problems connecting to the server while it's set to public = true in the server settings (since then I can connect through the server list on the minecraft page). But when I try to connect to the server after making it private, I get the message:
#2914 [20:01] <Denzei> "You can't connect to the server via this URL anymore!"
#2915 [20:01] <implord> are you useing the 127.0.0.1?
#2916 [20:02] <Blackstar> hehe
#2917 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - Try changing the public back to true, see if the URL has changed in the server list
#2918 [20:02] <Denzei> using my external IP
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#2920 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - Wait.. are you using the classic server?
#2921 [20:02] <mib_4ms75y> everytime i run minecraft, i can play for bout a minute and then it freeze's, ive tried many thing's to resolve this and dont knw wht to do now, an help?
#2922 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - You need to use the classic URL, the URL with your IP doesn't work anymore
#2923 [20:02] <Denzei> classic server? I just downloaded the "multiplayer beta"
#2924 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - There's two server files. Classic/creative and survival/beta
#2925 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - The one at the multiplayer link is the classic server
#2926 [20:03] <mib_45ij9k> my mod folder is gone what do i do?
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#2928 [20:03] <Denzei> hmm
#2929 [20:03] <mib_4ms75y> everytime i run minecraft, i can play for bout a minute and then it freeze's, ive tried many thing's to resolve this and dont knw wht to do now, i end up restarting my computer everytime, anyone that can help?
#2930 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - Are you trying to make a survival/beta server, or a classic/creative server?
#2931 [20:04] <implord> mib, my mom gets the same things from time to time, dont know what to tell her :(
#2932 [20:04] <Denzei> well I've tried to run both the classic one and the survival/beta one I guess then (downloaded both)
#2933 [20:04] <Vex> I am trying to instal minecraft but when i click the .exe i get this message "Could not create Java virtual machine". I have uninstalled and reinstalled Java, updated my Windows 7 x64 to the up to date service pack and this is my Dxdiag: http://pastebin.com/viiDZ38e Please Help.
#2934 [20:04] <Denzei> but neither would let me in using the url which was found in the readme file
#2935 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - The survival/beta one is available here: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2936 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> It's at the bottom of the page
#2937 [20:04] <Denzei> aye, that's the one I'm running at the moment.
#2938 [20:05] <mib_4ms75y> everytime i run minecraft, i can play for bout a minute and then it freeze's, ive tried many thing's to resolve this and dont knw wht to do now, i end up restarting my computer everytime, anyone that can help
#2939 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - Alright, Then you can use the downloaded client to connect to it.
#2940 [20:05] <implord> all i wanna do is add the airship to mp :((
#2941 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - If you're running the minecraft client on the same computer, you can use 127.0.0.1 to connect ot it
#2942 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> to*
#2943 [20:05] <Denzei> the client from the same page?
#2944 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Denzei -Yes
#2945 [20:05] <mib_45ij9k> help
#2946 [20:05] <Denzei> isn't that the standalone one? the one which cost money?
#2947 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - Yes
#2948 [20:06] <Denzei> basicly I've never played minecraft before. so I would like to try it out first :p
#2949 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> implord - Is the airship mod compatible with MP?
#2950 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> implord - Many mods aren't
#2951 [20:06] <mib_4ms75y> everytime i run minecraft, i can play for bout a minute and then it freeze's, ive tried many thing's to resolve this and dont knw wht to do now, i end up restarting my computer everytime, anyone that can help
#2952 [20:07] <mib_45ij9k> help
#2953 [20:07] <mib_4ms75y> everytime i run minecraft, i can play for bout a minute and then it freeze's, ive tried many thing's to resolve this and dont knw wht to do now, i end up restarting my computer everytime, anyone that can help
#2954 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - What have you tried?
#2955 [20:07] <Denzei> so if you use the classic one then, is it possible to play on it to try the game out first?
#2956 [20:07] <mib_4ms75y> deleting the bin box
#2957 [20:07] <mib_4ms75y> redownloading it
#2958 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - It's not the same type of gameplay
#2959 [20:07] <mib_4ms75y> taking of all my mods
#2960 [20:08] <Blackstar> how do i do first person commands?
#2961 [20:08] <mib_45ij9k> i have tried to download a mod but it says the mod folder is gone
#2962 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - The classic gameplay is with infinite blocks, and no mobs/monsters
#2963 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - You need to create one, by installing modloader
#2964 [20:08] <Denzei> ahh, but that should be good for trying the game out I guess ^^
#2965 [20:08] <Blackstar> any help grey? =D
#2966 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - With a mod, "Single player commands"
#2967 [20:09] <Blackstar> D'OH
#2968 [20:09] <Blackstar> xD
#2969 [20:09] <Blackstar> also
#2970 [20:09] <Blackstar> um
#2971 [20:09] <Blackstar> do i need to download winrar for that? <_<
#2972 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Some sort of compression program, sure
#2973 [20:09] <mib_45ij9k> thelp
#2974 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> A free one is 7zip
#2975 [20:09] <mib_45ij9k> help
#2976 [20:09] <mib_4ms75y> GeyVulpine, can u answer my question? i knw there is alot of people asking question's but i rlly just want to play minecraft again
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#2978 [20:10] <Vex> GreyVulpine can i reserve you next lol?
#2979 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - If you want to run a mod, you need to follow the directions of that mod
#2980 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - Many mods generally need modloader installed
#2981 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, it's been hella busy since mojang put this chat in their support system
#2982 [20:10] * GreyVulpine shakes fist at mojang
#2982 [20:10] <mib_4ms75y> it's alright, ill wait patently
#2983 [20:10] <mib_45ij9k> i know but the folder said to drag it into another folder which wasnt on my computer
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#2985 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - Did you install modloader?
#2986 [20:11] <mib_45ij9k> ill try
#2987 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - Once you install modloader, it'll generate the mod folder you need to use
#2988 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Alright, um.
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#2990 [20:12] <mib_r2e6iv> i need help because everytime i try to play a server i get an error saying: Fatal Error Occured (1): Unable to load logo and progressbar images
#2991 [20:12] <mib_45ij9k> this is hard because im a kid
#2992 [20:12] <mib_4ms75y> im next in line
#2993 [20:13] <mib_4ms75y> been waiting patently
#2994 [20:13] <Vex> i was here first :(
#2995 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_r2e6iv - delete "minecraft.net" and "www.minecraft.net" from your browser's temporary files, and try minecraft again
#2996 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - Can you give me a dxdiag?
#2997 [20:13] <mib_4ms75y> alright, if Vex was next then he goes next
#2998 [20:13] <mib_r2e6iv> kthx
#2999 [20:13] <Vex> Hi, i was here earlier. I am trying to instal minecraft but when i click the .exe i get this message "Could not create Java virtual machine". I have uninstalled and reinstalled Java, updated my Windows 7 x64 to the up to date service pack and this is my Dxdiag: http://pastebin.com/viiDZ38e
#3000 [20:13] <mib_4ms75y> what's that Grey
#3001 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_4ms75y win/dxdiag
#3002 [20:13] <VoxelHead> mib_4ms75y: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3003 [20:13] <VoxelHead> mib_4ms75y: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3004 [20:13] <Blackstar> thankyou so much for your help GreyVulpine
#3005 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Blackstar - Glad I could help.
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#3007 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Vex - One sec
#3008 [20:14] <mib_4ms75y> Voxel, that made no sence to me
#3009 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Vex - 8 gigs of RAM, win7 64bit, did you install the 64bit version of java?
#3010 [20:15] <Denzei> hmmm ok... so now I've got the classic multiplayer server up and running, the public variable is set to true and isPublic = false (as said in the readme). Using the url: http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=<myexternalip>&port=25565 still gives me an error message.
#3011 [20:15] <mib_45ij9k> ok i have mod loader but i dont know how to fully install it or do i not need to
#3012 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - That URL no longer works
#3013 [20:15] <Denzei> oh
#3014 [20:15] <Vex> http://www.java.com/en/download/chrome.jsp?locale=en
#3015 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - You need to use the URL that the server page gives you
#3016 [20:15] <Vex> i downloaded that
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#3018 [20:16] <Denzei> hmm I see. but will it show even though the server is set to private?
#3019 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - Yes
#3020 [20:16] <mib_45ij9k> ok i have mod loader but i dont know how to fully install it or do i not need to
#3021 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - Er, it'll work, even after setting public = false
#3022 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - All public does, is list it in the server page
#3023 [20:17] <Denzei> ahh ok
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#3025 [20:17] <mib_45ij9k> ok i have mod loader but i dont know how to fully install it or do i not need to
#3026 [20:17] <mib_45ij9k> help
#3027 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Vex - You're going to need to download and install the 64-bit java from...
#3028 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Vex http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#3029 [20:17] <Denzei> and that url that I have to go through using the server page, is that static?
#3030 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Vex - use: Windows 7, XP Offline (64-bit)
#3031 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - Usually yes, but not always
#3032 [20:17] <Vex> one step ahead of you grey im trying now
#3033 [20:17] <Denzei> as in, can I get the url from there, and then set public = false to keep it hidden.
#3034 [20:17] <zippity> I just purchased minecraft and can't get it to downlowd properly. I have updated Java. Any help?
#3035 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Denzei - Yes
#3036 [20:17] <Denzei> ok, cool
#3037 [20:17] <Denzei> cheers
#3038 [20:17] <VoxelHead> "cheeeeeeeeers"
#3039 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Vox, shut up
#3040 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Dang bot.
#3041 [20:18] * VoxelHead talks to Daxar instead
#3041 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - The install directions should be on the same page where you got modloader from
#3042 [20:18] <Daxar> wut
#3043 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> It's the bot, ignore it
#3044 [20:18] <Daxar> luls
#3045 [20:18] <Daxar> Out of all the nicks, he randomly picked mine?
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#3047 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Yup, you should feel so lucky
#3048 [20:19] <zippity> We followed the instructions and just have a white rectangle with minecraft below it.
#3049 [20:20] <mib_4ms75y> VoxelHead i did wht u did, but after i submited it, it didnt send me to a anew site
#3050 [20:20] <mib_4ms75y> a new*
#3051 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - Can you give us the URL to it after you pressed submit?
#3052 [20:20] <mib_4ms75y> i dont understand wht URL mean's
#3053 [20:20] <mib_45ij9k> it said nothing i could use
#3054 [20:21] <Vex> greyvulpine - thanks i didnt instal the right java >.< lol
#3055 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - The address, at the top of your browser
#3056 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> Vex - Did it work?
#3057 [20:21] <mib_4ms75y> okay, u want me to put that on here?
#3058 [20:21] <Vex> yes i got to the login screen
#3059 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - Please
#3060 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> Vex - Awesome.
#3061 [20:21] <Vex> but my account is bugged
#3062 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> Vex - Bugged?
#3063 [20:21] <mib_4ms75y> http://pastebin.com/H76c4U9D
#3064 [20:21] <Vex> Failed to log in. Wrong username and/or password
#3065 [20:22] <Vex> Woah! Something seems to have gone wrong. We'll have a tinker with it momentarily, please check back again later.
#3066 [20:22] <Vex> first is when i log in
#3067 [20:22] <mib_45ij9k> help
#3068 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Vex - Using the password recovery..
#3069 [20:22] <Vex> second when i try to reset psw
#3070 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Vex - Dangit, mollstam broke the password recovery.. again
#3071 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Vex - Um, happen to have a twitter account >.>
#3072 [20:23] <Vex> but i know the psw i had made it 2 seconds before
#3073 [20:23] <zippity> should we keep waiting for an answer?
#3074 [20:23] <Vex> and no
#3075 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Vex - mollstam is mojang's web administrator, in charge of the backend web stuff
#3076 [20:23] <mib_45ij9k> so it doesnt say how to make the mod loader work
#3077 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Vex - You may need to wait a day or two for the password recovery thing to get back up
#3078 [20:23] <mib_4ms75y> Grey i put up the URL
#3079 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Vex - Sorry, I don't have anything else for you.
#3080 [20:23] <Vex> would having a twitter help that?
#3081 [20:23] <mib_4ms75y> wht to do now?
#3082 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Vex - If you had a twitter account, you could poke him at @mollstam
#3083 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Let him know the password recovery is down
#3084 [20:24] <Vex> ill try thank you
#3085 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> zippity - What's the exact problem you get? Just a white screen?
#3086 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - Do you have winrar?
#3087 [20:24] <zippity> no a black screen with nothing
#3088 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - Or a compression program that's able to open .jar files
#3089 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> zippity - How are you launching minecraft?
#3090 [20:25] <zippity> using Java
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#3092 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Through the browser? Through the downloadable client?
#3093 [20:25] <mib_45ij9k> i think so
#3094 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> zippity - What version of minecraft are you trying to run? classic? beta?
#3095 [20:25] <zippity> browser
#3096 [20:25] <zippity> beta
#3097 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Can you try it through the downloadable client?
#3098 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - Do you know where the .minecraft folder is?
#3099 [20:26] <mib_45ij9k> yes
#3100 [20:26] <zippity> computer asks "what do you wish to run with" and we choose Java
#3101 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - Can you go to the .minecraft folder
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#3103 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Do you have java installed on your computer? Updated?
#3104 [20:26] <mib_45ij9k> all it has in it is the minecraft install
#3105 [20:26] <mib_4ms75y> GREY, can u plz look at the file or tell me when so i dont have to keep yelling at u, lol
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#3107 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - I'm sorry, I'm a wee bit swamped, I'll get to you in a sec
#3108 [20:26] <zippity> Yes
#3109 [20:27] <mib_45ij9k> done
#3110 [20:27] <mib_4ms75y> alright, gonna go grab a snack
#3111 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - Alright, go into the /bin folder of the .minecraft folder
#3112 [20:27] <mib_45ij9k> k
#3113 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Right click on the minecraft.jar and open it with winrar or a compression program of your choice
#3114 [20:28] <zippity> after we try and download, we just have a white icon on the desktop with minecraft below it.
#3115 [20:28] <mib_45ij9k> thats the problem there is no jar
#3116 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> zippity - What exactly did you download?
#3117 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - There isn't?
#3118 [20:28] <lordsion007> ok Im runnen mac osx, I got the free game to play once but never again
#3119 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - What is in the folder?
#3120 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - Did you pay for minecraft?
#3121 [20:28] <lordsion007> not yet
#3122 [20:28] <xales> lordsion007: What happens when you try to run it?
#3123 [20:29] <mib_45ij9k> no and yes
#3124 [20:29] <lordsion007> it just go's black
#3125 [20:29] <xales> lordsion007: Also GreyVulpine is not talking to you. Which is why someone elses name is before what he said
#3126 [20:29] <zippity> minecraft homepage, windows option - there are two options. One says "if the other did not work, try this one." We tried both.
#3127 [20:29] <mib_45ij9k> minecraft is the only thing in the folder
#3128 [20:29] <lordsion007> dig it
#3129 [20:29] <xales> lordsion007: Try running it in another browser
#3130 [20:29] <lordsion007> will do
#3131 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - Can you press the alt key on your keyboard, go up to tools -> folder options, there, go to the view tab, and uncheck the checkbox for "Hide extensions for known file types"
#3132 [20:30] <zippity> We did receive confirmation that we paid for it.
#3133 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Could you uninstall and reinstall java from your machine
#3134 [20:31] <lordsion007> you might be on to somthn, I recently started using firefox instead of sofari
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#3136 [20:31] <zippity> We just installed it before trying this. Do we need to do it again?
#3137 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Try a full uninstall before you install java again
#3138 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> lordsion007 - Nothing I've been saying has been for you, what problem do you get?
#3139 [20:31] <zippity> How do you unistall - in a nutshell
#3140 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Depends on the operating system, what are you running?
#3141 [20:32] <lordsion007> I get a warning saying my computer cant recognize the digital signerature
#3142 [20:32] <zippity> Well, I am helping my son and it is a gateway pc with windows
#3143 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> lordsion007 - And did you accept it?
#3144 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> lordsion007 - You need to accept it to play it
#3145 [20:33] <mib_45ij9k> where is tools?
#3146 [20:33] <lordsion007> yes I told it to run any way but then I get the BSOD
#3147 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - When you press the alt key, "tools" will pop up in the toolbar at the top
#3148 [20:33] <mib_45ij9k> it doesnt show it when im at the folder
#3149 [20:33] <kermi> i need help with playing minecraft
#3150 [20:34] <mib_45ij9k> well it didnt
#3151 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> lordsion007 - That's not good, Can you tell us what the BSOD said?
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#3153 [20:34] <lordsion007> Black Screen Of Death
#3154 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> zippity - Alright, to uninstall something on windows, you need to go to your start menu, go to the control panel, head to add/remove programs
#3155 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> lordsion007 - Ah, BSOD usually means the blue screen of death.
#3156 [20:35] <lordsion007> I see
#3157 [20:35] <mib_45ij9k> well i have to go to bed and ill try tommorow do you work here almost every day?
#3158 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> lordsion007 - Basic general solutions for that include uninstalling/reinstalling java, as well as updating your video card.
#3159 [20:35] <zippity> Ok, then just do it all over again and then try and redownload from the mc homepage?
#3160 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_45ij9k - Basically, yes
#3161 [20:35] <mib_45ij9k> k
#3162 [20:35] <mib_45ij9k> bye
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#3164 [20:36] <lordsion007> mac has an auto update, it does not let you pick a specific java down load
#3165 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> zippity - You can redownload java from java.com
#3166 [20:36] <kermi> i cant play minecraft it just keeps saying bad video card drivers
#3167 [20:36] <mib_4ms75y> im still here!!!
#3168 [20:36] * mib_wi4a0e [mib_wi4a0e@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3169 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> kermi - You'll need to update your video card drivers then
#3170 [20:36] <zippity> right,. should we then try and download minecraft from the homepage?
#3171 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - I think I know your problem, your computer only has a gig of RAM
#3172 [20:36] <mib_wi4a0e> having trouble running minecraft -- downloaded minecraft.exe, java is most current version. I get an error on startup
#3173 [20:37] <mib_4ms75y> wht's that?
#3174 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - Minecraft usually requires at least that much free, I'm not suprised minecraft goes black after a time
#3175 [20:37] <lordsion007> youre right, it could verry well be my vid card
#3176 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_wi4a0e - What error? Could you paste it at www.pastebin.com?
#3177 [20:37] <kermi> i went onto NVIDIA and got the latest for my video card
#3178 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> zippity - After uninstalling/reinstalling java, try minecraft again, yes.
#3179 [20:37] <mib_wi4a0e> one sec, I will paste the error
#3180 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_wi4a0e - Please paste it at www.pastebin.com
#3181 [20:37] <lordsion007> its just odd that it was running fine the first couple times I tryed it
#3182 [20:37] <mib_4ms75y> so how can i fix this Grey
#3183 [20:38] <mib_4ms75y> am i gonna have to get my money back from paypal
#3184 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - I'd wait for 1.6, see if that fixes any of the memory leak issues.
#3185 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - And there's no refund available for minecraft, check minecraft.net/support
#3186 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - OTher than that, try upgrading your ram.
#3187 [20:38] <xales> kermi: What graphics card do you have?
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#3189 [20:39] <mib_4ms75y> ya, it say's that if the game dosent work for ur computer then within a week of buying it u can get ur money back
#3190 [20:39] <zippity> ok. thanks we will give it a try. A 'friend" of my sons said he "blocked" him from playing. Is that even a possible reason he is not able to access his own new account?
#3191 [20:39] <lordsion007> well thanx of the advice, as far as I can see the only thing I havnt tryed is running it with sofari indtead of firefox
#3192 [20:39] <kermi> NVIDIA GeForce MX 440
#3193 [20:39] <xales> zippity: It depends on what "blocked" means
#3194 [20:39] * mib_vxlkj8 [mib_vxlkj8@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3195 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> wow, that's. old
#3196 [20:39] <xales> ^
#3197 [20:39] <mib_4ms75y> how would i update my RAM card, ussally i knw how to do this stuff
#3198 [20:39] <mib_4ms75y> my brain aint workinh well
#3199 [20:40] <mib_wi4a0e> ok I pasted my error at pastebin.com title mib_wi4a0e mincraft error
#3200 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - You can't. RAM is bought
#3201 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> It's a physical component of your computer
#3202 [20:40] * mib_c3vzlc [mib_c3vzlc@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3203 [20:40] <xales> mib_wi4a0e: You need to give us the link to it
#3204 [20:40] <mib_c3vzlc> hello
#3205 [20:40] <mib_wi4a0e> sorry, I'm new to pastebin, let me get the link
#3206 [20:40] <zippity> we don't really know since this is our first time to purchase an account. We can try to reload if there is no way to know.
#3207 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez, I don't think the mx series supports the minimum required for minecraft
#3208 [20:40] <mib_c3vzlc> umm i need a little advice on minecraft bug that i got
#3209 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - What bug?
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#3211 [20:41] <mib_4ms75y> GreyVulpine- when do u think 1.6 is coming out?
#3212 [20:41] <mib_c3vzlc> i have a texture bug
#3213 [20:41] <mib_c3vzlc> tand i cant find a person anywhere who knows about it
#3214 [20:41] <xales> mib_c3vzlc: We can't read your mind - please be as specific as you can
#3215 [20:41] <mib_4ms75y> lol
#3216 [20:41] <mib_c3vzlc> ok np
#3217 [20:41] <mib_wi4a0e> try this: http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=X7ktwAaD
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#3219 [20:42] <mib_4ms75y> mib_c3vzlc type %appdata% in ur serch bin
#3220 [20:42] <zippity> any response before we go and reinstall?
#3221 [20:42] <mib_c3vzlc> every time i press on the mods and textures button on the main menu it crashes and ive tryed the %appdata% thing it wont come up
#3222 [20:43] <kermi> i used to be able to play it perfectly
#3223 [20:43] <mib_4ms75y> mib_c3vzlc u need to go in the bin and completly delete ur texture pack's inside the bimn
#3224 [20:44] <mib_c3vzlc> thats the thing i cant find the textures or anything to do with minecraft except the shortcut
#3225 [20:44] <mib_4ms75y> mib_c3vzlc ive had the same thing happen to me with the HD texture pack's
#3226 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - What operating system are you on?
#3227 [20:44] <mib_wi4a0e> also I cannot run the program from the browser either -- I downloaded both version of the minecraft.exe posted on the site. Next, my son convinced me to try downloading the beta server and seeing if he can play that way. It doesn't work either
#3228 [20:45] <mib_c3vzlc> what is operating system im not a real big compter guy
#3229 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Are you running windows? Mac? Linux?
#3230 [20:45] <Daxar> Windows, Linux, Mac
#3231 [20:45] <mib_c3vzlc> windows
#3232 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - What version of windows?
#3233 [20:45] <mib_wi4a0e> seems like maybe a java problem or firewall or connection -- I'm not totally sure but I have not explicity blocked the game in firewall (windows firewall, running AVG antivirus)
#3234 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - XP? vista? windows 7?
#3235 [20:46] <mib_c3vzlc> xp
#3236 [20:46] <mib_4ms75y> he might have the same thing as me Grey
#3237 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Alright, go to your start menu, go to the run command
#3238 [20:46] <mib_wi4a0e> and this is the link to my error from minecraft.exe (when trying to run it) http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=X7ktwAaD
#3239 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - In the run command, type in: %appdata%
#3240 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Go find the ".minecraft" folder there.
#3241 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Inside, delete everything but the 'saves' folder
#3242 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Once you launch minecraft again, it'll redownload everything
#3243 [20:47] <mib_c3vzlc> found it
#3244 [20:48] <mib_c3vzlc> it wont let me delete bin folder
#3245 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> Close minecraft
#3246 [20:48] <mib_4ms75y> GREY when do u think 1.6 version is coming out?
#3247 [20:48] <mib_c3vzlc> its not running
#3248 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> "this week sometime", mib_4ms75y
#3249 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_4ms75y - This week, either wed or thurs
#3250 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Alright, right click on your taskbar at the bottom, open up task manager
#3251 [20:49] <mib_4ms75y> alright, let's hope it work's then, ty for all of u poeple's help
#3252 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - At the task manager, go to the processes tab
#3253 [20:49] <kermi> im still a little confused on what the problem is with mine
#3254 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Look for any processes that are named java or javaw.exe
#3255 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - "End process" them
#3256 [20:49] <mib_c3vzlc> kk
#3257 [20:49] <mib_4ms75y> have a good night Grey and ty for ur help
#3258 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Then try deleting the folders again
#3259 [20:50] <mib_wi4a0e> kermi - what is going on? I can't fix it I'm sure but I wonder if I have teh same problem as you? Minecraft won't run for me.
#3260 [20:50] <mib_c3vzlc> ok it worked do i delete last login
#3261 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Shouldn't need to
#3262 [20:50] <kermi> well it keeps saying bad video driver and cannot find accelerateed open gl mode
#3263 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Try launching minecraft again
#3264 [20:51] <mib_wi4a0e> and honestly, its not even FOR me. Its for my son....and he's not happy that he spent his allowance on a game that won't run.
#3265 [20:51] <mib_c3vzlc> how do i launch it
#3266 [20:51] <mib_wi4a0e> Oh...maybe your video card is too old to have open gl mode?
#3267 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Run minecraft.exe again
#3268 [20:51] <mib_c3vzlc> i dont have the shorcut anymore
#3269 [20:51] <mib_wi4a0e> that was for kermi
#3270 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Then redownload it from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3271 [20:51] <kermi> it has worked in the past
#3272 [20:52] <mib_wi4a0e> did you have any windows updates run lately? if you are on windows
#3273 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_wi4a0e - You're running windows, right?
#3274 [20:52] <kermi> ya i went through all the manditory updates
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#3276 [20:53] <mib_c3vzlc> ok its downloading
#3277 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_wi4a0e - Still there?
#3278 [20:53] <mib_c3vzlc> its done
#3279 [20:53] <mib_wi4a0e> kermi -- so there is a chance that a windows update broke the video needed. I'm new to this game so i really don't know but I do know that I've had windows updates break things on rare occasions
#3280 [20:53] <mib_wi4a0e> yes Grey, still here.
#3281 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_wi4a0e - Windows XP?
#3282 [20:53] <mib_c3vzlc> yayayay it worked man ty tytytytytyty ur awesome dude
#3283 [20:53] <mib_wi4a0e> Yes, SP3
#3284 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Glad to hear it
#3285 [20:54] <mib_c3vzlc> yes xp
#3286 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#3287 [20:54] <mib_c3vzlc> man ur awesome
#3288 [20:54] <mjhasbach> If someone with some OpenVZ/Ubuntu experience would check my MCForums thread out, I'd greatly appreciate it http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/337841-read-timed-out-ubuntu-1104-openvz/
#3289 [20:54] <mib_c3vzlc> ty soo much
#3290 [20:54] <mib_c3vzlc> bb
#3291 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_wi4a0e - Could you go to your start menu, go to your Run command, there, type in: %appdata%
#3292 [20:54] <mib_c3vzlc> me
#3293 [20:54] <mjhasbach> Server times out immediately after preparing spawn area.
#3294 [20:54] <kermi> actually it quit working and then i reinstalled
#3295 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_c3vzlc - Nope, you're done
#3296 [20:54] <mib_wi4a0e> done
#3297 [20:54] <mib_c3vzlc> kk ty
#3298 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_wi4a0e - Go find the .minecraft folder, and delete everything inside but the saves folder
#3299 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_wi4a0e - Then try launching minecraft again
#3300 [20:55] <mib_wi4a0e> 'c:\documents' is not recongized.....is what I got when I typed that in the command prompt
#3301 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_wi4a0e - That's what you get when you typed in "%appdata%?
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#3303 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> er, "%appdata", without the quotes
#3304 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> bah
#3305 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> %appdata%
#3306 [20:56] <mib_wi4a0e> never mind, I typed in in cmd prompt not run
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#3308 [20:56] <mib_wi4a0e> I didn't see a saves folder. I deleted all.
#3309 [20:57] <whidgle> why does the free game say 'pixel format not accelarated'?
#3310 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Alright, relaunch minecraft.
#3311 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Usually means your video drivers are out of date
#3312 [20:57] <mib_wi4a0e> ok, doing that now
#3313 [20:57] <whidgle> how do i update em?
#3314 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Depends on what video card you have
#3315 [20:57] <kermi> well that sort of explains my problem
#3316 [20:57] <mib_wi4a0e> its redownloading....
#3317 [20:57] <austinpower> hey plzzz help me
#3318 [20:57] <whidgle> then what? when i know
#3319 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> austinpower - If we knew what problem you're having, sure
#3320 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Then you find the drivers for it and install it.
#3321 [20:58] <mib_wi4a0e> crashed again with same result as what I pasted in pastebin
#3322 [20:58] <whidgle> where
#3323 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Do you know what operating system you're running?
#3324 [20:58] <austinpower> ok so i downloaded a texture pack and the game is not runnung any more
#3325 [20:58] <mib_wi4a0e> and now I have someone at my front door so I will be back.
#3326 [20:58] <whidgle> XP
#3327 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> austinpower - Then remove the texture pack
#3328 [20:58] <whidgle> Service Pack 3
#3329 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Can you give us a dxdiag, follow these directions
#3330 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> ??> whidgle win/dxdiag
#3331 [20:58] <VoxelHead> whidgle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3332 [20:58] <VoxelHead> whidgle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#3334 [20:59] <whidgle> what is dxdiag
#3335 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> it's a directx diagnostic tool
#3336 [20:59] <austinpower> i did .minecraft i deleted it all but it is still not doing it is there a way you can go on my computer and do it for me
#3337 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> Gives us information on your system, including what video card you have
#3338 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> austinpower - Did you delete the texturepack folder as well?
#3339 [20:59] <austinpower> idk
#3340 [20:59] <austinpower> is there a way you can connect to my computer and do it for me
#3341 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> austinpower - Got teamviewer?
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#3343 [21:00] <austinpower> i think i can tell you my stuuf i know of it
#3344 [21:00] <AG_Scott> mjhasbach, hi
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#3346 [21:00] <mjhasbach> heyy AG_Scott
#3347 [21:01] <AG_Scott> I wish to attempt to help you.
#3348 [21:01] <AG_Scott> Can you grab some info for me?
#3349 [21:01] <mjhasbach> sure
#3350 [21:01] <mjhasbach> and thanks
#3351 [21:01] <AG_Scott> Okay, type this please: cat /proc/user_beancounters in your terminal
#3352 [21:01] <AG_Scott> It should spit out some stuffs, I need you to copy and paste into pastebin.com and send me the link
#3353 [21:02] <mjhasbach> alright
#3354 [21:02] <austinpower> waitdude you havea facebook
#3355 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> austinpower - Nope.
#3356 [21:02] <AG_Scott> GreyVulpine, http://join.me/ is cool.
#3357 [21:02] <austinpower> well can you get on ma com;puter if i tell you my stuff for team viewer
#3358 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3359 [21:02] <austinpower> ok hold on
#3360 [21:02] <mjhasbach> AG_Scott http://pastebin.com/E7qSC2QJ
#3361 [21:02] <AG_Scott> You might want to send that info in private.
#3362 [21:03] <mib_pu61xy> hello all i have come across this site in my search of getting my wom off the ground on my new laptop. it works on my pc but i get the done loading and thats is in the browser and just black window when I dl it. any advice?
#3363 [21:03] <AG_Scott> mjhasbach, okay one second
#3364 [21:03] <mjhasbach> whoops
#3365 [21:03] <VoxelHead> i need tacos... i need them or i explode. that happens sometimes
#3366 [21:03] <AG_Scott> mjhasbach, that has nothing private in it, was talking about the guys teamviewer stuff
#3367 [21:03] <austinpower> ready for it
#3368 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_pu61xy - We don't really provide support for third party clients, including WoM
#3369 [21:03] <austinpower> yo ready
#3370 [21:03] <mib_pu61xy> did the bin folder thing but no help there
#3371 [21:04] <mjhasbach> Yea, I was wondering when private information snuck into BeanCounters lol
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#3373 [21:04] <whidgle> what is IRC channel
#3374 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> austinpower - PM me your info
#3375 [21:04] <AG_Scott> mjhasbach, have you restarted the container recently?
#3376 [21:04] <mib_pu61xy> but what ever u can give me besides that be great
#3377 [21:04] * dopeghoti gestures around. you're in one, whidgle
#3377 [21:04] <austinpower> what is apm
#3378 [21:04] <mjhasbach> it's been a few hours, AG_Scott
#3379 [21:04] <AG_Scott> Have you tried running minecraft since then?
#3380 [21:04] <mjhasbach> yes, with the same result
#3381 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> austinpower - Use the /msg command
#3382 [21:04] <AG_Scott> I see.
#3383 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> austinpower - /msg greyvulpine your private teamviewer details
#3384 [21:05] <austinpower> idk how
#3385 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Just use that command
#3386 [21:06] <AG_Scott> mjhasbach, did the "can't keep up errors" happen before?
#3387 [21:06] <mib_pu61xy> done loading and freeze advice for my new laptop? bin change doesn't work anyone know?
#3388 [21:07] <dopeghoti> ??> mib_pu61xy win/profile
#3389 [21:07] <VoxelHead> mib_pu61xy: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3390 [21:07] <VoxelHead> mib_pu61xy: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3391 [21:07] <mjhasbach> Any idea what might be causing the problem, AG_Scott?
#3392 [21:07] <AG_Scott> (and by before I mean CentOS+OpenVZ)
#3393 [21:07] <mib_pu61xy> windows 7
#3394 [21:08] <mjhasbach> oh whoops, i missed your last message
#3395 [21:08] <VoxelHead> Guessssss who made waffles!
#3396 [21:08] <mib_pu61xy> cool vox i'll mess with that
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#3398 [21:08] <mjhasbach> I don't think the "can't keep up errors" happened when I was using CentOS, although I'm not certain. I only tested the MC sever briefly.
#3399 [21:09] <mjhasbach> On CentOS that is.
#3400 [21:09] <AG_Scott> I need to look at it further, Could you PM me IP, username, password, etc?
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#3402 [21:09] <AG_Scott> SSH over teamviewer/join.me is horrid
#3403 [21:10] <austinpower> get it grey
#3404 [21:10] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ):
#3405 [21:10] <mjhasbach> alright, give me a minute.
#3406 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> austinpower - Nope
#3407 [21:10] <austinpower> here ill tell you hurry up though
#3408 [21:11] <austinpower> 619 101 038 pass 6488
#3409 [21:11] <austinpower> hurry
#3410 [21:12] <dopeghoti> huh
#3411 [21:12] <dopeghoti> TIL TeamViewer has an Android app
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#3413 [21:16] <mjhasbach> Did you get that message AG_Scott? I don't think it went through...
#3414 [21:17] <TheNytangel> anyone wanna play portal 2 co-op with me? :)
#3415 [21:17] <VoxelHead> You know, they sell recycled food at co-op
#3416 [21:17] <TheNytangel> um.. ok..
#3417 [21:17] <mjhasbach> I sent via /msg AG_Scott and there wasn't any output
#3418 [21:17] <AG_Scott> oh yes it did
#3419 [21:17] <AG_Scott> sorry was getting something to drink
#3420 [21:18] <AG_Scott> What port?
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#3422 [21:18] <mjhasbach> It's rebooting right now, give it a minute
#3423 [21:18] <mjhasbach> Port 22
#3424 [21:19] <AG_Scott> I have no write access.
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#3427 [21:20] <mjhasbach> Your account is an admin account. Are you prefixing your commands with sudo?
#3428 [21:21] <doug> i need someone to join my server to see if a plugin worked anyone up for it?
#3429 [21:22] <AG_Scott> then i'll just become root
#3430 [21:22] <doug> root?
#3431 [21:22] <AG_Scott> or not
#3432 [21:22] <AG_Scott> AG_Scott is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
#3433 [21:22] <VoxelHead> rooooooooooooot?
#3434 [21:22] <[L]> Please remember that we do not support mods here
#3435 [21:23] <mjhasbach> alright, one second Scott
#3436 [21:23] <doug> oh ma bad l did not know
#3437 [21:23] <AG_Scott> Try #bukkit
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#3440 [21:27] * AG_Scott waits.
#3440 [21:28] <mjhasbach> AG_Scott. I don't feel like dealing with all that sudoers stuff. Just login under root. Same pass
#3441 [21:28] <AG_Scott> wrong password.
#3442 [21:29] <mjhasbach> I'll pull a reboot
#3443 [21:29] <AG_Scott> You don't need to reboot.
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#3445 [21:29] <quibbit> I need help
#3446 [21:29] <xales> With?
#3447 [21:29] <quibbit> Buying the game
#3448 [21:30] <AG_Scott> About the only reason you need to reboot in linux is to change kernels.
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#3450 [21:30] <xales> Can you be more specific?
#3451 [21:30] <mjhasbach> ah damn. I changed the root pass on the wrong VM -_-
#3452 [21:30] <mjhasbach> one second
#3453 [21:31] <pachuco> when i select to play minecraft in the browser, it switches pages, but the game itself isnt loading
#3454 [21:31] <mjhasbach> Try now
#3455 [21:31] <xales> pachuco: Are you trying to play Beta, or Classic?
#3456 [21:31] <pachuco> beta
#3457 [21:32] <xales> Try the download version
#3458 [21:32] <pachuco> okay
#3459 [21:32] <quibbit> It says that the credit card is invalid then when i click try again it skips to the page that says you have succecfuly bought it *please excuse the spelling*
#3460 [21:32] <xales> quibbit: Are you trying to use a prepaid or gift card?
#3461 [21:33] <quibbit> It says that the credit card is invalid then when i click try again it skips to the page that says you have succecfuly bought it *please excuse the spelling*
#3462 [21:33] <quibbit> gift card
#3463 [21:33] <xales> That's why
#3464 [21:33] <AG_Scott> okay
#3465 [21:33] <AG_Scott> testing stuff now mjhasbach
#3466 [21:33] <xales> You can't use gift cards or prepaid cards to purchase Minecraft
#3467 [21:33] <xales> ?? prepaid
#3468 [21:33] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#3469 [21:33] <quibbit> thats stupid
#3470 [21:33] <xales> Not really, they aren't meant for use for international transactions
#3471 [21:33] <mjhasbach> Thanks, AG_Scott
#3472 [21:33] <xales> or really, for online use at all
#3473 [21:34] <quibbit> can you possible send me a gift code then ill send the money to you
#3474 [21:34] <xales> Sorry, no
#3475 [21:34] <AG_Scott> You can possibly buy a giftcode from a US merchant. there are some legit businesses selling them.
#3476 [21:35] <AG_Scott> Make sure you do research on the company first though.
#3477 [21:35] <quibbit> and why not
#3478 [21:35] <xales> Why would I? I have no guarantee that you would pay me back.
#3479 [21:36] <pachuco> ty xales
#3480 [21:36] <pachuco> my game is working
#3481 [21:37] <quibbit> what if i send the the money ahead
#3482 [21:37] <xales> Again, it's not something I can do. Sorry
#3483 [21:37] <AG_Scott> You could always do a charge back...
#3484 [21:38] <xales> AG_Scott: With Paypal? Yeah, no thanks
#3485 [21:38] <AG_Scott> mjhasbach, I don't know if this is the problem but it's definitely a concern.
#3486 [21:38] <quibbit> whats a charge back
#3487 [21:38] <AG_Scott> You have a write speed of 30MB/s
#3488 [21:38] <xales> quibbit: Why don't you ask your parents to buy it for you?
#3489 [21:39] <mjhasbach> That is rather troubling. That shouldn't be causing the Read Timeout though...right?
#3490 [21:39] <quibbit> They wont use their credit card on the computer
#3491 [21:39] <AG_Scott> quibbit, It's relatively safe :P
#3492 [21:39] <mjhasbach> If it was like 1 MB/s, then I would believe that was the culprit
#3493 [21:40] <mjhasbach> 30 MB/s should be able to sustain the server and a small handful of players, no?
#3494 [21:40] <AG_Scott> Probably not. The server just seems sluggish.
#3495 [21:40] <xales> mjhasbach: What's the exact error you are getting?
#3496 [21:40] <AG_Scott> It took several seconds for 'java -version' to even respond.
#3497 [21:41] <quibbit> i know theyre just stuburn
#3498 [21:41] <mjhasbach> xales, http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/337841-read-timed-out-ubuntu-1104-openvz/
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#3500 [21:41] <xales> Well, that's the issue
#3501 [21:41] <xales> OpenVZ
#3502 [21:41] <xales> ._.
#3503 [21:41] <AG_Scott> I ran the server (a new copy in /root/temp/) and it won't even stop now.
#3504 [21:41] <AG_Scott> its like hung.
#3505 [21:41] <AG_Scott> :/
#3506 [21:42] <xales> hey AG_Scott
#3507 [21:42] <mjhasbach> I'm well aware OpenVZ isn't the best, but I've heard of several severs running it fine
#3508 [21:42] <AG_Scott> Yes?
#3509 [21:42] <xales> mjhasbach: It really depends on the host
#3510 [21:42] <quibbit> do you know anyone who would do it for free
#3511 [21:42] * AG_Scott waits on it to start responding.
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#3512 [21:42] <xales> almost all of the OpenVZ hosts oversell
#3513 [21:42] <anadrom> hmmm suddenly my login won't work
#3514 [21:42] <xales> quibbit: People tend to not give out things for free...
#3515 [21:43] <xales> anadrom: "won't work" how?
#3516 [21:43] <anadrom> "Login failed"
#3517 [21:43] <mjhasbach> AG_Scott, I'm not sure why it's hanging. I've never had that happen before
#3518 [21:43] <anadrom> in red text
#3519 [21:43] <anadrom> after I click login
#3520 [21:43] <xales> anadrom: username or password is incorrect, then
#3521 [21:43] <anadrom> it can't be
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#3523 [21:43] <anadrom> because i just went to minecraft.net and copied/pasted it
#3524 [21:43] <AG_Scott> Can you just reboot it?
#3525 [21:43] <xales> if it was correct, you would not get that error
#3526 [21:43] <anadrom> that's what I assumed as well
#3527 [21:43] <anadrom> but I was wrong
#3528 [21:44] <mib_ei5w9j> my minecraft wont open anymore
#3529 [21:44] <quibbit> well theres always that really nice really rich guy *cough*bill gates* cough*
#3530 [21:44] <mjhasbach> Reboot the whole server?
#3531 [21:44] <AG_Scott> Yep
#3532 [21:44] <anadrom> I went to minecraft.net, pasted my PW three times (same pw in all three fields) and it said "your password has been changed"
#3533 [21:44] <AG_Scott> Lol, I got the broadcast message
#3534 [21:44] <mjhasbach> done, it'll be back up in a minute
#3535 [21:44] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: We can't read your mind. Why won't it? Is there an error message? Were you trying to install a mod or texture pack?
#3536 [21:44] <anadrom> yet when i paste the PW into minecraft client, "login failed"
#3537 [21:44] <mjhasbach> ha
#3538 [21:44] <mib_ei5w9j> i installed a texture p0ack and now my minecraft program will not open and play
#3539 [21:44] <xales> anadrom: Completely clear out the username and password fields, and re-enter it by hand
#3540 [21:45] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: Delete the texture pack
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#3542 [21:45] <mib_ei5w9j> i did
#3543 [21:45] <anadrom> good idea
#3544 [21:45] <lmc> Having an issue with MC locking up, then have to reboot. Running on win xp (sp2), with current Java version installed. any suggestions?
#3545 [21:45] <xales> ??> mib_ei5w9j win/reinst
#3546 [21:45] <VoxelHead> mib_ei5w9j: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3547 [21:45] <VoxelHead> mib_ei5w9j: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3548 [21:45] <xales> lmc: Upgrade to SP3
#3549 [21:45] <mjhasbach> xales, I'm aware of the overselling issue, but VolumeDrive has pretty good reviews. They also throw freebies around like crazy...they gave me 8GB of RAM instead of the 4GB I paid for. I've heard of them doing that for other people as well. I don't really think they're hurting for resources/
#3550 [21:45] <anadrom> ah ok i was getting an invisible character in there... thanks
#3551 [21:46] <lmc> xales - SP3 will really fix the issue?
#3552 [21:46] <xales> lmc: Of course - SP2 isn't even supported by Microsoft any more
#3553 [21:46] <mjhasbach> according to cat /proc/meminfo anyway
#3554 [21:46] <xales> it's been EOL'd
#3555 [21:46] <xales> mjhasbach: I wouldn
#3556 [21:46] <xales> bah, damn ' key
#3557 [21:46] <mjhasbach> AG_Scott...damn it took forever to shut down...
#3558 [21:47] <xales> mjhasbach: I wouldn't trust meminfo on an OpenVZ node
#3559 [21:47] <xales> check /proc/user_beancounters
#3560 [21:47] <mjhasbach> my beancounters from earlier: http://pastebin.com/E7qSC2QJ
#3561 [21:48] <AG_Scott> I already checked it
#3562 [21:48] <xales> Actually.
#3563 [21:48] <xales> I think that 1.6 will fix the issue
#3564 [21:48] <xales> because of the unbuffered IO "bug"
#3565 [21:48] <mjhasbach> AG_Scott, I was reposing it for xales
#3566 [21:49] <xales> more like "complete oversight" but whatever
#3567 [21:49] <mjhasbach> Wait, you mean Minecraft 1.6 o_o is that even out yet?
#3568 [21:49] <xales> Supposedly tomorrow
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#3570 [21:49] <xales> the change list has been posted though
#3571 [21:50] <AG_Scott> mjhasbach, the sluggishness and slow disk speed is rather concerning.
#3572 [21:50] * AG_Scott is testing it
#3572 [21:50] <xales> ^
#3573 [21:50] <mjhasbach> Thanks AG_Scott
#3574 [21:50] <mjhasbach> I'm gonna take a look at that changelog
#3575 [21:50] <AG_Scott> connect to the server now
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#3577 [21:51] <mib_tfxv4s> can anybody help me with a lag problem
#3578 [21:51] <mib_ei5w9j> i tried your idea and it didnt work
#3579 [21:51] <mib_tfxv4s> ?
#3580 [21:51] <mjhasbach> AG_Scott connect to the MCServer or via ssh?
#3581 [21:51] <mib_ei5w9j> i needs help
#3582 [21:51] <AG_Scott> OMG
#3583 [21:51] <xales> mib_tfxv4s: If you explain the problem, yes
#3584 [21:51] <AG_Scott> the lag.
#3585 [21:51] <AG_Scott> MC
#3586 [21:51] <mib_ei5w9j> i needs help
#3587 [21:51] <AG_Scott> well nevermind
#3588 [21:51] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: Go back, and delete not just the bin folder, but every folder except 'saves'
#3589 [21:51] <AG_Scott> locked up
#3590 [21:52] <AG_Scott> in SSH: pkill -9 java
#3591 [21:52] <mib_ei5w9j> but that will delete my mods
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#3593 [21:52] <mjhasbach> Done.
#3594 [21:52] <AG_Scott> thx
#3595 [21:52] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: Do it anyway
#3596 [21:52] <mib_ei5w9j> and i need my mods
#3597 [21:52] <mjhasbach> When I tried to connect I was getting "Logging in..." anyway
#3598 [21:52] <mib_tfxv4s> xales: i can play for a few seconds than it freezes than i can play again for a few seconds, and so on and so forth
#3599 [21:52] <mjhasbach> for a long ass time.
#3600 [21:52] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: If you don't do it, Minecraft won't work
#3601 [21:52] <VoxelHead> long ass-time
#3602 [21:53] <mjhasbach> ?
#3603 [21:53] <xales> mib_tfxv4s: Try turning down the graphics settings
#3604 [21:53] <mib_ei5w9j> are you 150% positive it will work
#3605 [21:53] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: Yes
#3606 [21:53] <mib_tfxv4s> which ones t
#3607 [21:53] <xales> mib_tfxv4s: Set render distance to "small," graphics to "fast" and smooth lighting to "off"
#3608 [21:53] <mib_ei5w9j> how can i get the folders back
#3609 [21:53] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: The whole point is that you _don't_ get them back
#3610 [21:53] <mib_ei5w9j> y
#3611 [21:53] <xales> you have to delete them, or Minecraft will not work
#3612 [21:54] <mib_tfxv4s> xales: i can only change the render distance because im on classic
#3613 [21:54] <mib_ei5w9j> i need them for mods texture packs and such
#3614 [21:54] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: Well, if you don't delete them, then Minecraft will not work
#3615 [21:54] <xales> if you want it to work, you have to delete them.
#3616 [21:54] <xales> mib_tfxv4s: What are your computer's specs?
#3617 [21:54] <mib_ei5w9j> buttttttttttttttttttttttt
#3618 [21:55] <AG_Scott> mjhasbach, well, not sure what is going on. If 1.6 doesn't fix it, I would think it's the VPS.
#3619 [21:55] <mib_tfxv4s> xales: im not sure
#3620 [21:55] <mib_ei5w9j> i want a texture pack and i need mods
#3621 [21:55] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: Again, if you do not delete it, you CAN NEVER PLAY MINECRAFT
#3622 [21:55] <xales> ??> mib_tfxv4s win/dxdiag
#3623 [21:55] <VoxelHead> mib_tfxv4s: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3624 [21:55] <VoxelHead> mib_tfxv4s: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3625 [21:56] <mib_ei5w9j> are you positive there isnt another way
#3626 [21:56] <mib_tfxv4s> ok
#3627 [21:56] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: Again, yes. I am not going to continue to repeat myself to you
#3628 [21:56] <AG_Scott> mjhasbach, "1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 318.347 s, 3.4 MB/s"
#3629 [21:56] <xales> bottom line is, IF you want it to work, you MUST delete it
#3630 [21:56] <mib_ei5w9j> fine
#3631 [21:57] <mjhasbach> That's pretty horrid
#3632 [21:57] <mjhasbach> -_-
#3633 [21:57] <VoxelHead> ;)
#3634 [21:57] <mib_ei5w9j> can i still get mods and texture packs after i delete the folders
#3635 [21:57] <mib_tfxv4s> voxelhead: should i save as text or xml file?
#3636 [21:57] <VoxelHead> Mib_tfxv4s: none of the above.
#3637 [21:57] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: As I have already said, yes.
#3638 [21:57] <mjhasbach> I wonder why this problem didn't exist in CentOS? Perhaps the node is just under more load now...idk.
#3639 [21:57] <xales> mib_tfxv4s: text
#3640 [21:57] <xales> mib_tfxv4s: VoxelHead is a bot, ignore it ._.
#3641 [21:57] <mib_ei5w9j> how do i get them
#3642 [21:57] <VoxelHead> Am not :(
#3643 [21:58] <AG_Scott> XD
#3644 [21:58] <mjhasbach> I may have to contact VolumeDrive about I/O performance...
#3645 [21:58] <AG_Scott> mjhasbach, I suspect you got a VPS on a new node
#3646 [21:58] <AG_Scott> and it's now filling up
#3647 [21:58] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: We can't help you with that. If you want the game to work, you have to delete it
#3648 [21:59] <AG_Scott> I'm running the test multiple times, it's very inconsistent.
#3649 [21:59] <AG_Scott> It even said "Infinity B/s" once
#3650 [21:59] <xales> AG_Scott: ya OpenVZ
#3651 [21:59] <mjhasbach> HAHA
#3652 [21:59] <xales> yay*
#3653 [21:59] <VoxelHead> i will rule you all with an iron fist
#3654 [21:59] <mjhasbach> I wish I has infinity B/s
#3655 [21:59] <VoxelHead> especially my darling AG_Scott
#3656 [21:59] <AG_Scott> VoxelHead, you shush.
#3657 [22:00] <mib_tfxv4s> xales: heres the link to pastebin: http://pastebin.com/4zCm1nWf
#3658 [22:00] <VoxelHead> I do love a good shushing
#3659 [22:00] <xales> mib_tfxv4s: Yeah...it shouldn't be _that_ laggy, but it isn't entirely out of the question...
#3660 [22:00] <AG_Scott> VoxelHead, shut up
#3661 [22:01] * VoxelHead talks to Popz instead
#3661 [22:01] <xales> your computer just barely meets the requirements to run it
#3662 [22:01] <xales> and it wouldn't be able to run Beta at all
#3663 [22:01] <AG_Eddie> AG_Eddie shut up
#3664 [22:01] <mib_tfxv4s> that sucks
#3665 [22:01] <xales> the biggest thing that would make a difference, I think
#3666 [22:01] <mib_tfxv4s> yeah...
#3667 [22:01] <xales> is turning off any other programs you have open, as well as disabling any antivirus/firewall software
#3668 [22:01] <xales> (they tend to use enormous amounts of memory)
#3669 [22:02] <Kealper> xales: how much would you hate me if i started learning Delphi? lol
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#3671 [22:02] * GreyVulpine saves xales the trouble and stabs Kealper with a rusty spork
#3671 [22:02] <xales> Kealper: I would shoot you
#3672 [22:02] <Kealper> XD
#3673 [22:02] <xales> GreyVulpine: Well..I always wanted a gun...
#3674 [22:02] <Kealper> i'm so tempted to atleast try it lol
#3675 [22:02] <xales> especially to shoot Kealper with
#3676 [22:02] <xales> =3
#3677 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, fine.
#3678 [22:02] <Kealper> :<
#3679 [22:03] * xales fires some "warning" shots into Kealper's au3 compiler
#3679 [22:03] <xales> ahem, "compiler"
#3680 [22:03] <mib_tfxv4s> xales: i dont have any programs open, are there any other settings i should change besides
#3681 [22:03] * GreyVulpine rejoices
#3681 [22:03] <Kealper> it techincally compiles....
#3682 [22:03] <mib_tfxv4s> besides render distance
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#3684 [22:03] <xales> to derpcode
#3685 [22:03] <Kealper> it compiles au3 files into some failbytecode that the interpreter can read lol
#3686 [22:03] <xales> mib_tfxv4s: not in the game itself; you can try playing in another browser (Firefox or Google Chrome)
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#3688 [22:03] <xales> but especially disabling antivirus
#3689 [22:04] <xales> could potentially make a huge difference
#3690 [22:04] <mib_tfxv4s> im playing in chrome already and ok
#3691 [22:04] <mib_tfxv4s> thanks for your help
#3692 [22:04] <xales> well, you could try Firefox
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#3694 [22:04] * Kealper would recommend Firefox, the latest versions are quite nice
#3694 [22:05] <mib_tfxv4s> ill try... bye thanks!:)
#3695 [22:07] <figaro> Just got a Java error msg while trying to open Mods and Texture Packs: Java (TM) Platform SE 6 U24 is unresponsive. Any suggestions to fix this?
#3696 [22:07] <xales> ??> figaro win/reinst
#3697 [22:07] <VoxelHead> figaro: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3698 [22:07] <VoxelHead> figaro: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3699 [22:07] <xales> Delete, in addition to 'bin,' every folder you find there, but DO NOT delete 'saves'
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#3701 [22:08] <figaro> I play Minecraft off the web site...does it matter?
#3702 [22:08] <xales> No
#3703 [22:09] <xales> It tends to run better if you download it as well, but that doens't matter in this case
#3704 [22:09] <figaro> ok..Thanks!
#3705 [22:10] <figaro> one more question, where do i find those files
#3706 [22:10] <figaro> I have Windows XP...
#3707 [22:10] <xales> Follow VoxelHead's instructions
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#3709 [22:11] <mib_ei5w9j> i did what u said and i still cant play minecraft
#3710 [22:11] <weirdo> can anyone tell me if servers are down? Apparently my connection is getting refused and I don't know why
#3711 [22:12] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: You deleted _everything_ in the .minecraft folder, except saves?
#3712 [22:12] <xales> weirdo: It means the server you are trying to connect to it down, or a firewall could be blocking Minecraft on your end
#3713 [22:12] <mib_ei5w9j> yeps
#3714 [22:12] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: and what happens when you try to run it?
#3715 [22:12] <mjhasbach> AG_Scott, do you think I'm pretty much SOL, or do you have any other suggestions? When you're done testing, let me know so I can change the root p/w back please.
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#3719 [22:13] <mib_ei5w9j> error report
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#3722 [22:13] <VoxelHead> bye mr_pants33
#3723 [22:13] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: Copy the entire error message to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link
#3724 [22:13] <AG_Scott> mjhasbach, i'm done. not much i can suggest/do
#3725 [22:13] <mib_ei5w9j> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 5/24/11
#3726 [22:13] <figaro> It worked thanks alot (:
#3727 [22:14] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: I just said, do not paste it here
#3728 [22:14] <xales> you have to use http://pastebin.com/
#3729 [22:14] <Kealper> Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
#3730 [22:14] <mjhasbach> Alright AG_Scott. Thanks for the help. If you don't mind, can you tell me which Linux command you used to produce that poor I/O result (3.4MB/s IIRC)
#3731 [22:15] <mjhasbach> I would like to use that to test from time to time so I can quantify a support ticket with VolumeDrive
#3732 [22:15] <AG_Scott> look in the history
#3733 [22:15] <mib_ei5w9j> http://pastebin.com/vNCL3vJW
#3734 [22:16] <xales> mib_ei5w9j: You did not delete all of the folders, then
#3735 [22:16] <mib_ei5w9j> but i did
#3736 [22:17] <xales> if you get that error, then no, you have not deleted every folder
#3737 [22:17] <xales> you must go into the .minecraft folder
#3738 [22:17] <xales> and delete EVERYTHING
#3739 [22:17] <xales> except 'saves'
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#3741 [22:19] <mib_ei5w9j> yay it worke
#3742 [22:19] <mib_ei5w9j> d
#3743 [22:19] <mib_ei5w9j> worked
#3744 [22:19] <Mack> Somehow my toggle keys to move my player got changed. I am unable to change it back to the original settings of D,W,S,A? Any ideas how to fix?
#3745 [22:20] * mib_ei5w9j [mib_ei5w9j@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3746 [22:20] <xales> Mack: Did you install a "comcast guard" utility?
#3747 [22:20] <Mack> Yes!
#3748 [22:20] <xales> (or, for that matter, any garbage software from Comcast)
#3749 [22:20] <xales> That's the problem
#3750 [22:21] <xales> that software, while doing nothing good for you, also does lots of bad
#3751 [22:21] <xales> like breaking Minecraft
#3752 [22:21] <xales> if you uninstall it, it will go back to working normally
#3753 [22:22] <AG_Scott> Is that some sort of fail anti-keylog crap?
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#3755 [22:22] <xales> AG_Scott: I think it's just "fail"
#3756 [22:22] <Mack> Thanx!!
#3757 [22:22] <NEED> hey i really need some help with some errors
#3758 [22:22] <NEED> just bought mine craft and wont start
#3759 [22:22] <xales> You take "security software" which tends to be fail, and "Comcast" which is the worst company in America, according to polls..it doen'd end well
#3760 [22:23] <xales> Guest94757: First of all, change your name
#3761 [22:23] <Guest94757> can anybody help me?:o
#3762 [22:23] <xales> "/nick (namename)"
#3763 [22:23] <AG_Scott> Guess what my security software is?
#3764 [22:23] <xales> AG_Scott: nothing!
#3765 [22:23] <AG_Scott> No.
#3766 [22:23] <AG_Scott> sudo!
#3767 [22:23] <Guest94757> :/
#3768 [22:23] <xales> lol
#3769 [22:23] <xales> Guest94757: I just said
#3770 [22:23] <xales> you need to change your nick
#3771 [22:23] <xales> /nick (newnick)
#3772 [22:24] <Guest94757> how about now
#3773 [22:24] <Guest94757> fuk
#3774 [22:24] <xales> uh, you haven't changed it
#3775 [22:24] <AG_Scott> I'm going to clean my desk with disinfectant. brb.
#3776 [22:24] <Guest94757> idk how
#3777 [22:24] <mjhasbach> It's funny, a buddy of mine pays for Comcast crap-level cable internet and gets like 2.5MB/s download
#3778 [22:24] <xales> Guest94757: I just said
#3779 [22:24] <xales> You "say" /nick newName
#3780 [22:24] <Guest94757> ok
#3781 [22:24] <hai> ok
#3782 [22:24] <xales> ._.
#3783 [22:24] <hai> hbn
#3784 [22:24] <xales> okay
#3785 [22:24] <xales> anyway
#3786 [22:25] <xales> copy the error message you get to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link to it
#3787 [22:25] <hai> ok
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#3789 [22:26] <hai> http://pastebin.com/nRB60ZWM
#3790 [22:26] <minecraftnoob> hello
#3791 [22:26] <hai> does that work?
#3792 [22:26] <xales> minecraftnoob: hello
#3793 [22:27] <xales> hai: one second
#3794 [22:27] <minecraftnoob> how do you get rails to work
#3795 [22:27] <xales> minecraftnoob: http://minecraftwiki.net/
#3796 [22:27] <minecraftnoob> kk. thanks
#3797 [22:27] <xales> hai: you need to update your video card drivers - do you know what video card you have?
#3798 [22:27] <hai> not sure, how would i find out?
#3799 [22:27] <xales> ??> hai win/dxdiag
#3800 [22:27] <VoxelHead> hai: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3801 [22:27] <VoxelHead> hai: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3802 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> And I'm back
#3803 [22:29] <xales> re
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#3805 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> Was away, TVing a person to help them install a mod.. >.>
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#3807 [22:31] <xales> ._.
#3808 [22:31] <hai> ok there http://pastebin.com/hr8bVqrU
#3809 [22:31] <xboxftw> why can i start the classic game
#3810 [22:31] <xales> xboxftw: You mean why "can't" you?
#3811 [22:31] <xboxftw> o yes sorry
#3812 [22:31] <xales> hai: one minute
#3813 [22:32] <xales> xboxftw: What happens when you try to, that prevents you from doing so?
#3814 [22:33] <xboxftw> first i downloades java and then it apears an icon in the corner then i click there and it says that there is an error
#3815 [22:33] <xales> xboxftw: Please copy the entire error message to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link
#3816 [22:33] <xales> hai: does your computer
#3817 [22:33] <xales> look like this? http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/images/support/productInfo/SupportProductImage/c00139499/c00139499.gif
#3818 [22:34] <xboxftw> nop
#3819 [22:34] <hai> no
#3820 [22:34] <xales> hai: it doesn't?
#3821 [22:34] <xboxftw> its like a paper whith a !
#3822 [22:34] <hai> ill upload a picture
#3823 [22:34] <mjhasbach> erm, to anyone still here who payed attention to my issue earlier...what do you think about throwing portions of the MC server on a ramdisk? That might work if HDD I/O is in fact the problem...
#3824 [22:35] <xales> xboxftw: I was not talking to you. If you noticed, I did not say your name before it, I said someone elses name
#3825 [22:35] <xales> xboxftw: You need to copy the error message to pastebin.com and provide us with a link
#3826 [22:35] <xales> hai: sorry, a bad link... http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=uk&prodNameId=316715&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=316713&swLang=13&taskId=135&swEnvOID=1093#11360
#3827 [22:35] <xales> the image at the top there
#3828 [22:35] <xales> mjhasbach: It's...possible to try
#3829 [22:35] <xales> but ramdisk performance on an OpenVZ node would be abysmal
#3830 [22:37] <hai> this is what mine looks like http://hardverapro.hu/dl/uad/2010-12/1217972pic.jpg
#3831 [22:37] <AG_Scott> chances are it will just be swap xD
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#3833 [22:38] <hai> balls my bad heres mines http://www.buscomputer.co.th/main/images/articles/Case_GLite.jpg
#3834 [22:38] <xales> hai: Is there a model number on it?
#3835 [22:38] <mjhasbach> xales and/or AG_Scott, if VolumeDrive cannot/will not fix this issue for me, what type of host do you think I should seek out? A XenServer host? That's what I was on last time and the performance was ok...not spectacular or anything. Any specific host recommendations?
#3836 [22:38] <xales> mjhasbach: Definately Xen (not "xenserver," just Xen in general)
#3837 [22:39] <minecraftnoob> byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
#3838 [22:39] <xales> Xen, is, by nature, not possible to oversell
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#3840 [22:39] <mib_9igvrx> it just keeps saying loading and says done loading without it complete how do i fix this
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#3842 [22:39] <xales> ??> mib_9igvrx win/reinst
#3843 [22:39] <VoxelHead> mib_9igvrx: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3844 [22:39] <VoxelHead> mib_9igvrx: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3845 [22:39] <mib_9igvrx> i tried that
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#3847 [22:39] <xales> Do it again.
#3848 [22:40] <bernard> Hi
#3849 [22:40] <hai> xales you still looking at my stuff?
#3850 [22:40] <hai> jw
#3851 [22:40] <xales> hello bernard
#3852 [22:40] <xales> 22:38:08 <@xales> hai: Is there a model number on it?
#3853 [22:40] <hai> lemme look
#3854 [22:40] <VoxelHead> I like them =)
#3855 [22:40] <bernard> My computer crashes every time a start a game, have any ideas
#3856 [22:41] <xales> bernard: Every time you start the game, or every time you load a world?
#3857 [22:42] <mib_bgcl36> I'm in need of help.
#3858 [22:42] <xales> With?
#3859 [22:42] <bernard> When I load a world
#3860 [22:42] <hai> xales i see no model number except for some number on the front "1333 1394
#3861 [22:42] <hai> "1333 1394"
#3862 [22:42] <xales> hai: Do you know about how old the computer is?
#3863 [22:42] <hai> i do not:/
#3864 [22:42] <xales> bernard: Try creating a new world - does it crash then?
#3865 [22:42] <xales> hai: Can you find out?
#3866 [22:42] <hai> i got a year ago if that helps
#3867 [22:42] <bernard> When I start the world
#3868 [22:43] <xales> ...
#3869 [22:43] <mib_bgcl36> Well, I bought the game, and the place that was charging my credit card said the payment failed. Then I returned to Minecraft site, and it said it was successful, and it charged my card, but I can't access the game.
#3870 [22:43] <hai> how mould i find out how old it is
#3871 [22:43] <hai> would*
#3872 [22:44] <xales> mib_bgcl36: Several people have had this issue - the best thing to do would be to email payment@mojang.com with your username and proof of purchase
#3873 [22:44] <xales> hai: You'd need to find a model number on it...it thinks that it is a "DC578AV" which does not look similar to what you gave me a picture of
#3874 [22:44] <xales> but, if it is a "DC578AV" then it is far, far too old to be able to run Minecraft
#3875 [22:44] <AG_Scott> xales, to correct you, you can actually oversell using Xen but no one does it
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#3877 [22:45] <hai> is the model number on the inside?:/
#3878 [22:45] <xales> hai: No
#3879 [22:45] <xales> AG_Scott: Technically, no
#3880 [22:45] <hai> ok ill look again but i see nothing of a model number
#3881 [22:45] <xales> each VPS has to be guaranteed CPU time
#3882 [22:45] <mib_bgcl36> What proof can I show? :s
#3883 [22:45] <xales> if it's a fair scheduler or not, that's one thing
#3884 [22:46] <xales> mib_bgcl36: Not sure..just try emailing them with your username and tell them what payment method you used, when you purchased it, and what happened
#3885 [22:46] <xales> include details of the error
#3886 [22:46] <mib_bgcl36> Will do. Thank you.
#3887 [22:46] <AG_Scott> xales, Memory ballooning.
#3888 [22:46] <AG_Scott> You need drivers for it so it's quite obvious.
#3889 [22:47] <xales> AG_Scott: fine, yes, if you do that
#3890 [22:47] <mib_641juy> i am trying to use the classic version online and get only a black screen. I updated my graphics drivers and it worked for a little while. using ie9
#3891 [22:47] <xales> mib_641juy: That's probably the issue..Internet Explorer is a useless piece of junk
#3892 [22:47] <xales> try Firefox or Google Chrome
#3893 [22:47] <mib_641juy> same result on chrome and firefox
#3894 [22:47] <xales> Re-install Java
#3895 [22:48] <mib_641juy> also tried 32 vs 64 versions
#3896 [22:48] <xales> Re-install Java
#3897 [22:48] <hai> xales i found some grooves with letter and number,t his is all i could make out they were upside down
#3898 [22:48] <hai> "115/230V 1/05A
#3899 [22:48] <mib_641juy> i updated java. should i just uninstall it and reinstall it?
#3900 [22:48] <xales> mib_641juy: Yes
#3901 [22:48] <xales> hai: Where did you get the computer from?
#3902 [22:48] <mib_641juy> thankx for the info
#3903 [22:49] <xales> mhmm
#3904 [22:49] <hai> my uncle, i have no idea where from before that
#3905 [22:49] <hai> hes big on hacking stuff with computers so god knows what is inside this thing
#3906 [22:50] <xales> You need to ask him what graphics card it has
#3907 [22:50] <xales> and install the drivers for it
#3908 [22:50] <hai> ok brb
#3909 [22:51] <hai> we just put a new one in but idk what kind it is, if i take a picture and put it on here would that help?
#3910 [22:51] <xales> Not really
#3911 [22:51] <xales> I mean, unless it has the model number on it
#3912 [22:51] <xales> most don't though, or not easy to find
#3913 [22:52] <xales> (you'll probably end up breaking it in the process)
#3914 [22:52] <xales> those things are very fragile :(
#3915 [22:52] <hai> :/ so what do i dooo
#3916 [22:52] <hai> i tried installing openGL drivers but it said it doesnt work
#3917 [22:52] <hai> or maybe the link was bad but idk
#3918 [22:54] <hai> ill try again with the drivers
#3919 [22:55] <hai> looks like it working :O
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#3921 [22:57] <xboxftw> humm i dun know how to explain my problem
#3922 [22:57] <xboxftw> :(
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#3924 [22:58] <xales> xboxftw: Again, you have to give us the error message
#3925 [22:58] <hai> ok nvm it was too good to be true
#3926 [22:58] <hai> idk how to do this, what a waste of 20 buck LOL
#3927 [22:59] <xales> hai: You have to determine what graphics card you have
#3928 [22:59] <xales> and install the driver for it
#3929 [23:00] <hai> is there a program that can determine what graphics card i have?
#3930 [23:00] <xales> No, dxdiag would have been able to detect it if the computer had any idea
#3931 [23:01] <xales> it doesn't, so it's not possible
#3932 [23:01] <xales> and given that it's not propely OEM tagged, its probably a custom build
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#3936 [23:04] <xboxftw> when i try to start playing it appears like a java error that says the application was unnable to run. and a details option, when i press there it opens the java console
#3937 [23:04] <hai> so where does tht leave me. fucked?
#3938 [23:04] <austinpowers> hey grey
#3939 [23:05] <xales> xboxftw: Again,
#3940 [23:05] <austinpowers> grey you there
#3941 [23:05] <xales> we can NOT help you with your Java error unless you tell us what the error is
#3942 [23:05] <xboxftw> :(
#3943 [23:05] <xales> austinpowers: he won't notice unless you say his full name
#3944 [23:05] <xales> xboxftw: So, again, just give us the error and we can try to help you
#3945 [23:06] <austinpowers> hey greyvulpine
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#3947 [23:07] <austinpowers> HEY GreyVulpine
#3948 [23:07] <xales> austinpowers: Just be patient
#3949 [23:07] <austinpowers> sry
#3950 [23:07] <Guest24190> damn it stupid nickname thing
#3951 [23:07] <austinpowers> stop cursing
#3952 [23:08] <Anthro> shit how do i id my nickname ?
#3953 [23:08] <AG_Scott> /ns identify passwordhere
#3954 [23:08] <Guest21899> what do i put as a password?
#3955 [23:09] <AG_Scott> What your password is?
#3956 [23:09] <AG_Scott> If you didn't register that name, it isn't yours.
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#3958 [23:11] <xolotl> (or, put another way, first you would "/ns register <password> <emailaddress>", then follow the instructions in the email, then run that "/ns ident" command
#3959 [23:11] <xolotl> )
#3960 [23:11] <Guest21899> but its the one i use liek everytime i come on here
#3961 [23:11] <xboxFTW> Excepción: java.lang.SecurityException: attempted to open sandboxed jar https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/classic/lwjgl_util_applet.jar?v=15 as a Trusted-Library
#3962 [23:11] <Guest21899> oooh
#3963 [23:11] <xboxFTW> that helps??
#3964 [23:11] <Shayd> Any ideas how to buy minecraft without credit card?
#3965 [23:11] <xolotl> One of these days I will successfully remember whether or not I opened a paren at the beginning of a line
#3966 [23:11] <hai> xales are you on here often? i can come back tomarrow with graphics card info
#3967 [23:12] <xales> hai: Me, or someone else, are here all the time
#3968 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#3969 [23:12] <xolotl> WE ARE LEGION
#3970 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Us poor fools
#3971 [23:12] * VoxelHead o|My ears!
#3971 [23:12] <hai> ok, and what do i do exactly? just fin outwhat kind of card it is or a model number?
#3972 [23:12] <xales> xboxFTW: Did you click "Allow" when it prompted you?
#3973 [23:12] * xolotl damns Anonymous for co-opting that phrase
#3973 [23:12] <xales> hai: Model number, exact model number
#3974 [23:13] <hai> does this help at all?"R128P73108"
#3975 [23:13] <hai> im not sure which model number is the right one
#3976 [23:13] <hai> or which number is the model number
#3977 [23:14] <xales> hai: Nope, that's not a model number of anything
#3978 [23:14] <xales> or, not the graphics card anyway
#3979 [23:14] <xboxFTW> yes i press allow
#3980 [23:14] <hai> theres so many number on here :[[
#3981 [23:14] <xolotl> xales: Actually, a Google for that implies that it's an ATI RAGE ULTRA OTHER THINGS IN CAPS
#3982 [23:15] <xales> xboxFTW: try a different browser
#3983 [23:15] <xales> xolotl: orly
#3984 [23:15] <xolotl> Yeah
#3985 [23:15] <hai> what is S/N or P/N, are those other naems for a model nujber?
#3986 [23:15] <hai> because theres number next to those
#3987 [23:15] <xolotl> Looks like canonically there'd be a space inbetween the P and 7
#3988 [23:15] <xales> hai: Does it look like this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-RAGE-ULTRA-R128P-73108-SVGA-/320596391379
#3989 [23:16] <hai> exactly
#3990 [23:16] <xales> Oh dear.
#3991 [23:16] <hai> does that help anything?
#3992 [23:16] <hai> L
#3993 [23:16] <hai> :o
#3994 [23:17] <VoxelHead> I say
#3995 [23:17] <VoxelHead> I say, er...
#3996 [23:17] <xales> uh, that thing
#3997 [23:17] <VoxelHead> mmmmm breasts.
#3998 [23:17] <xales> is very, VERY, old
#3999 [23:17] <Shayd> -0
#4000 [23:17] <xales> it is much too old to run Minecraft...it probably belongs in a museum
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#4002 [23:17] <hai> LOL
#4003 [23:17] <hai> well
#4004 [23:17] <hai> i just replaced it, as we were on the thingy here with a new one
#4005 [23:18] <hai> or
#4006 [23:18] <hai> attempting to
#4007 [23:18] <xales> well, what is the model number of the replacement? <.<
#4008 [23:18] <hai> if i can find the driving info on here can that help?
#4009 [23:18] <booklas> my minecraft keeps freezing at the last stage while loading and then it shuts down... any one know how to fix it?
#4010 [23:18] <hai> ok lemme loook
#4011 [23:18] <xales> ??> booklas win/reinst
#4012 [23:18] <VoxelHead> booklas: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4013 [23:18] <VoxelHead> booklas: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete the bin directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4014 [23:19] <hai> xales would the info be under device manager on control panel?
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#4016 [23:19] <xales> No, if it was, dxdiag would have shown it
#4017 [23:19] <hai> ugh
#4018 [23:20] <hai> so your saying to fin out what it is, i would break it in the process?
#4019 [23:20] <hai> but dxdaig wont show it
#4020 [23:20] <hai> sooooo
#4021 [23:20] <booklas> Thank You very much!
#4022 [23:20] <xales> booklas: not a problem
#4023 [23:20] <xales> hai: no, you just need to find the model number of it
#4024 [23:20] <booklas> do you know any great seed codes?
#4025 [23:20] <xales> ask whomever you got the card from for the model number
#4026 [23:20] <hai> go abck inside it?
#4027 [23:21] <xales> booklas: try Google
#4028 [23:21] <hai> gahh ok ill look but tbh, idk where the mdoel number is
#4029 [23:21] <booklas> ok i was seeing if anybody had a personal favorite
#4030 [23:21] <xales> hai: It would be better not to look on the card itself
#4031 [23:21] <xales> booklas: 404
#4032 [23:21] <hai> so how would i find it 0_o
#4033 [23:21] <xales> hai: it will be on the packaging of the card, receipt from when it was purchased...
#4034 [23:22] <hai> my uncle sent it in bubble wrap and nothing more
#4035 [23:22] <triggerdusk> hey xales
#4036 [23:22] <xales> Hi.
#4037 [23:22] <xboxFTW> java.lang.SecurityException: attempted to open sandboxed jar https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/classic/lwjgl_util_applet.jar?v=15 as a Trusted-Library at com.sun.deploy.security.CPCallbackHandler$ParentElement.checkResource(Unknown Source) at com.sun.deploy.security.DeployURLClassPath$JarLoader.checkResource(Unknown Source) at com.sun.deploy.secur
#4038 [23:22] <xales> hai: then ask him what it is
#4039 [23:22] <triggerdusk> ^^ i have a probelm
#4040 [23:22] <xboxFTW> this helps??
#4041 [23:22] <hai> okk
#4042 [23:22] <xales> triggerdusk: Well, I don't read minds, what is the problem?
#4043 [23:22] <xales> xboxFTW: Re-install Java
#4044 [23:23] <xboxFTW> ok
#4045 [23:23] <hai> hes asleep, damn.
#4046 [23:23] <hai> ok well hopefully ill see you on here tomarrow when i call him
#4047 [23:23] <xales> hai: good luck
#4048 [23:24] <triggerdusk> lol when ever i turn my server on my whole screen kinda inverts all color
#4049 [23:24] <triggerdusk> this only happend recently too
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#4051 [23:25] <xales> triggerdusk: How much RAM does your computer have?
#4052 [23:25] <triggerdusk> about 3 gigs
#4053 [23:25] <xales> and when you..run the server it does that?
#4054 [23:25] <triggerdusk> i re downloaded it from the site and ran it again and yea it did
#4055 [23:26] <xales> does it go away when you close the server?
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#4057 [23:28] <triggerdusk> yes it does
#4058 [23:29] <xales> immediately after?
#4059 [23:29] <triggerdusk> pretty much
#4060 [23:29] <xales> try reinstalling Java
#4061 [23:30] <triggerdusk> hmm there is an update for it one sec
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#4063 [23:32] <XboxFTW> im using this version of java versión JRE 1.6.0_25-b06 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
#4064 [23:33] <xales> Did you try using a different browser?
#4065 [23:33] <XboxFTW> yep
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#4067 [23:33] <XboxFTW> and a different computer
#4068 [23:34] <xales> And are you sure that you are clicking "allow"?
#4069 [23:34] <triggerdusk> anyone know if theres a way to manualy update java?
#4070 [23:34] <xales> triggerdusk: uninstall it, reinstall it
#4071 [23:34] <triggerdusk> ok
#4072 [23:34] <XboxFTW> yes
#4073 [23:35] <XboxFTW> im going to reinstall it again
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#4077 [23:43] <mib_o5fch6> hey just bought the game and having some problems doing any multiplayer
#4078 [23:44] <xales> What exactly is the problem?
#4079 [23:44] <mib_o5fch6> tried some ips and nothing will connect
#4080 [23:44] <mib_o5fch6> so maybe my verison?
#4081 [23:44] <xales> What, exactly, does it say when you try?
#4082 [23:44] <mib_o5fch6> connection refused:connect
#4083 [23:44] <mib_o5fch6> on 4 seperate ones
#4084 [23:45] <xales> The server is not running, then
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#4087 [23:46] <mib_o5fch6> ye i figured that might be the case but i went down the list and tried multiple ips from the servers listed on the main site, each with the same error
#4088 [23:47] <xales> Err, if you are trying ips listed on http://minecraft.net then those are classic servers
#4089 [23:47] <xales> and you cannot connect to them with Beta
#4090 [23:48] <mib_o5fch6> so what servers do i use then?
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#4092 [23:49] <xales> Try the list at http://minestatus.net/
#4093 [23:49] <mib_o5fch6> alright thanks
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#4095 [23:50] <XboxFTW> i reinstalled and pressed allow
#4096 [23:51] <mib_o5fch6> ye tried the list and the new error I am getting is " bad login"
#4097 [23:51] <XboxFTW> it could be a firewall problem or somthing like that??
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#4099 [23:52] <xales> XboxFTW: yes, try disabling your antivirus software
#4100 [23:52] <xales> mib_o5fch6: what username are you connecting with?
#4101 [23:53] <mib_o5fch6> the one i registered with, tried running the game again seeing different reactions other than the error msg earlier, just a sec gonna try another server
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#4103 [23:54] <xales> mib_o5fch6: and what is the name you registered with?
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#4105 [23:56] <mib_o5fch6> umadibet, got it running
#4106 [23:56] <XboxFTW> nothing, it could be my location??
#4107 [23:57] <VoxelHead> Mmm Risky.
#4108 [23:57] <xales> XboxFTW: Probably not
#4109 [23:57] <xales> try posting on the forum
#4110 [23:57] <XboxFTW> hmmm
#4111 [23:57] <XboxFTW> ok
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