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#2 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> the minimap?
#3 [00:00] <binkster> then it obviously still needs modlader
#4 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> I'm seeing it only updated to 1.6.4
#5 [00:00] <binkster> o then that is whats wrong
#6 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/91544-16may-27-lahwrans-mods-zanmini-colored-cloth/#{SIMPLETEXT1}
#7 [00:00] <binkster> and for future advice...
#8 [00:00] <binkster> you shouldn
#9 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> lahwran's maintaining it
#10 [00:01] <binkster> shouln't download a new mod right after a new patch release
#11 [00:01] <binkster> because usually many bug fix updates may come along int he following hours to days
#12 [00:01] <binkster> so wait till after 1.6.6 then go ahead and install that way you have it a long time until 1.7
#13 [00:02] <binkster> untill you need to update
#14 [00:02] <Netstorm> You're right, I see where it's 1.6.4 in the table of contents.
#15 [00:02] <Netstorm> And yeah, well I didn't know when the recent updates would stop, and the mod had updated since 1.6.3, so yeah.
#16 [00:02] <Netstorm> Alright well I'll just go without it for a bit.
#17 [00:02] <binkster> grey, is mcedit reliable
#18 [00:03] <Netstorm> Thanks anyway guys, careless mistake.
#19 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Pretty reliable, yes
#20 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Netstorm - No problem
#21 [00:03] <binkster> it won't in anyway cause me to lose a world or something
#22 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> I've used MCedit since alpha.
#23 [00:03] <binkster> o ok
#24 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Been good to me so far
#25 [00:03] <Netstorm> I know this is a minecraft support channel and not a mod support channel, et cetera, but does anyone have some suggestions for interesting or useless mods to a beginner who's just trying out new ones?
#26 [00:03] <binkster> ok cool, i dont think i will use it on my main world, but on others
#27 [00:03] <Netstorm> useful*
#28 [00:03] <Netstorm> lawl
#29 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Netstorm - modloader with zombes mods and toomanyitems
#30 [00:04] <binkster> mo creatures is a fun one
#31 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> mo creatures hasn't been updated
#32 [00:04] <binkster> ya thats good too
#33 [00:04] <binkster> get zombes flying mod
#34 [00:04] <binkster> it will once 1.6.6 comes out
#35 [00:04] * GreyVulpine nods
#35 [00:04] <binkster> who did u ban>
#36 [00:04] <binkster> 1/
#37 [00:04] <binkster> ?
#38 [00:04] <binkster> lol damn keyboard
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#40 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Really, annoying guy who wouldn't stop asking for help
#41 [00:05] <binkster> can we help you minefrceiurh
#42 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Demands people go on his computer via teamviewer to do it for him
#43 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Can't follow simple instructions
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#45 [00:05] <binkster> o ok
#46 [00:05] <binkster> i see
#47 [00:06] <Netstorm> Figured out my connection issues, most all the servers I go on are down because of 1.6 being buggy and downgrading to 1.5.
#48 [00:06] <Netstorm> Alright, thanks guys.
#49 [00:06] <binkster> 1.6 was a very buggy [patch
#50 [00:06] <binkster> it created more than it fixed
#51 [00:06] <minefrceiurh> i degraded my product by going to app data, deleting a file, and then renaming minecraft 1.51 as minecraft. now i accidently updated minecraft again, and now i can't find the file.
#52 [00:06] <binkster> a lot of conlficting code
#53 [00:07] <binkster> what file
#54 [00:07] <minefrceiurh> and i dont really want to download anything unless there's nothing else to do
#55 [00:07] <minefrceiurh> i meant
#56 [00:07] <minefrceiurh> minecraft and minecraft 1.51
#57 [00:07] <minefrceiurh> the jar files
#58 [00:07] <binkster> the version i guess too
#59 [00:07] <minefrceiurh> the version one is there
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#61 [00:07] <binkster> grey?
#62 [00:08] <mib_odaku8> help!
#63 [00:08] <minefrceiurh> but it's not a jar file
#64 [00:08] <phelix806> Sorry to interrupt but I was wondering if anyone knows of a constantly high chunk update problem
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#66 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Gotta step away for a bit
#67 [00:08] <binkster> 1.6 bugs
#68 [00:08] <binkster> ok
#69 [00:08] <knightlysilence> help please.
#70 [00:08] <binkster> one second i got three people
#71 [00:08] <minefrceiurh> ok
#72 [00:08] <minefrceiurh> take your time
#73 [00:08] <binkster> ok minecrceiurh
#74 [00:08] <binkster> restart the computer and check for the files again
#75 [00:09] <binkster> they are usually in app data, roaming, .minecraft, bin
#76 [00:09] <minefrceiurh> that's where i searched
#77 [00:09] <minefrceiurh> so restart?
#78 [00:09] <binkster> on mib_odaku8 what is your problem
#79 [00:09] <binkster> and yes
#80 [00:09] <minefrceiurh> ok thanks
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#82 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> minefrceiurh - If you replaced minecraft.jar with you backed up minecraft15.jar, then updated it, your backup is now 1.6.5
#83 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#84 [00:09] <binkster> lol
#85 [00:10] <binkster> knightlysilence what did u need?
#86 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> phelix806 - For SMP?
#87 [00:10] <phelix806> sorry but smp?
#88 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> survival multiplayer?
#89 [00:11] <phelix806> just single player survival
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#91 [00:11] <binkster> knightlysilence1 what do u need?
#92 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, haven't heard of any high chunk updates for that, have you turned on frame limiter/
#93 [00:11] <phelix806> havent been on multiplayer since 1.6 my standard server hasnt updated it yet
#94 [00:11] <phelix806> yeah frame limiter doesnt effect it
#95 [00:11] <binkster> try reinstalling
#96 [00:11] <phelix806> tried that
#97 [00:11] <phelix806> =/
#98 [00:11] <binkster> hmmmm
#99 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> phelix806 - Then I'm not aware of any issues beyond that for high chunk updates
#100 [00:12] <phelix806> Im on a mac (OS X 10.5)
#101 [00:12] <binkster> o
#102 [00:12] <phelix806> it drops to 0 when stationary and jumps to 80-100 when moving at all
#103 [00:12] <binkster> your best bet would be to google your problem and look for answers there
#104 [00:13] <binkster> or youtube
#105 [00:13] <phelix806> heh thats what I tried first, found the IRC through that
#106 [00:13] <phelix806> but thanks anyways
#107 [00:13] <phelix806> Ill try reinstalling it
#108 [00:13] <binkster> grey, anylast words
#109 [00:13] <binkster> brb
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#112 [00:14] <knightlysilence1> i need help when anyone gets a chance please.
#113 [00:14] <binkster> here
#114 [00:14] <binkster> state the problem
#115 [00:14] <mib_1rlgnm> Out of memory. minecraft has run out of memory. this could be caused by a bug in the game or by the java virual machine not being allocated enough memory. if you are playing in a web browser try downloading the game and playing it offline. to prevent level corruption, the current game has quit. please restart the game. . . . im just wounderin what i
#116 [00:15] <knightlysilence1> i dont know if you heard me earlier, because i DCd, but i need minecraft on another computer, but when i download the launcher and logon, it says "User not premium" and under play offline, it says "Not downloaded"
#117 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_1rlgnm - Just means minecraft thinks you ran out of memory, nothing you can do about it
#118 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_1rlgnm - All you can do is just restart minecraft
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#120 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> knightlysilence1 - Did you pay for minecraft?
#121 [00:15] * mineceicfrh [mineceicfrh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#122 [00:15] <knightlysilence1> yes
#123 [00:15] <binkster> sure
#124 [00:15] <FrozenMoose> hey my game client every now and then just shuts off. whats up?
#125 [00:15] <binkster> when does it shut off
#126 [00:16] <binkster> while playing?
#127 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> knightlysilence1 - Are you sure it's the right account?
#128 [00:16] <knightlysilence1> GreyVulpine - yes
#129 [00:16] <FrozenMoose> while im playing in a server in multiplayer
#130 [00:16] <knightlysilence1> yes, i am sure, because i can log on on the website
#131 [00:16] <mineceicfrh> i restarted my computer, but the files are still not there
#132 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> knightlysilence1 - What's the minecraft username you use?
#133 [00:16] <knightlysilence1> can i PM it?
#134 [00:16] <binkster> mineceicfrh give me one second
#135 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> sure
#136 [00:16] <mineceicfrh> ok
#137 [00:16] <FrozenMoose> ?
#138 [00:17] <binkster> FrozenMoose - it could be a problem on the administrators side
#139 [00:17] <binkster> or are u the administrator
#140 [00:17] <binkster> it could also be a connection issue
#141 [00:17] <FrozenMoose> okay. no im not the server administrater
#142 [00:17] <binkster> then it might be on his side, are you guys updated to 1.6
#143 [00:17] <FrozenMoose> yes recently accually
#144 [00:18] <binkster> then that might be the problem, 1.6 is very very buggy in SMP
#145 [00:18] <FrozenMoose> okay that helps. thanks
#146 [00:18] <binkster> does the client say anything when you lag out
#147 [00:18] <FrozenMoose> no my game completely shuts off
#148 [00:18] <binkster> is your computer hot?
#149 [00:19] <FrozenMoose> nope. i have a good cooling system in it
#150 [00:19] <binkster> how much ram do u have?
#151 [00:19] <FrozenMoose> 6 gb
#152 [00:19] <binkster> what is your O.S.
#153 [00:19] <FrozenMoose> windows 7
#154 [00:19] <binkster> what bit?
#155 [00:20] <FrozenMoose> 64
#156 [00:20] <binkster> make sure java is 64
#157 [00:20] <FrozenMoose> okay ill update
#158 [00:20] <binkster> if that doesn't
#159 [00:20] <binkster> work
#160 [00:20] <binkster> then it is a problem on the administrators part, he might not have a powerful enough computer to run an online server
#161 [00:21] <FrozenMoose> okay ill see
#162 [00:21] <binkster> ok mineceicfrh
#163 [00:21] <binkster> what do u need
#164 [00:21] <mineceicfrh> i restarted my computer as you said
#165 [00:21] <mineceicfrh> but the files still aren't there
#166 [00:21] <binkster> tell me exactly what u are doing to find your files
#167 [00:22] <mineceicfrh> i run %appdata%
#168 [00:22] <mineceicfrh> then goto /.minecraft/bin
#169 [00:22] <mineceicfrh> and then there's no minecraft 1.51 and minecraft jar files
#170 [00:22] <binkster> can u rune the game?
#171 [00:23] <binkster> run
#172 [00:23] <mineceicfrh> yes
#173 [00:23] <binkster> make sure there is not to .minecraft folders in the folder
#174 [00:23] <mineceicfrh> what do you mean?
#175 [00:24] <mineceicfrh> in the appdata folder?
#176 [00:24] <binkster> if you deleted the files, then updated again, the game can create another set of .minecraft files and run off that
#177 [00:24] <binkster> yes
#178 [00:24] <mineceicfrh> there's only one
#179 [00:24] <binkster> are you sure you didn't accidently move the files
#180 [00:24] <mineceicfrh> i deleted the files
#181 [00:25] <mineceicfrh> to the recycle bin
#182 [00:25] <binkster> then reinstall minecraft
#183 [00:25] <binkster> ?? win.reinst
#184 [00:25] <mineceicfrh> do i have to pay again?
#185 [00:25] <binkster> ?? win/reinst
#186 [00:25] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#187 [00:25] <binkster> no
#188 [00:25] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#189 [00:25] <FrozenMoose> i installed the most recent java. i hope it works. thanks :)
#190 [00:25] <binkster> follow voxels intructions
#191 [00:25] <binkster> np
#192 [00:25] <binkster> mineceicfrh - follow voxel
#193 [00:25] <binkster> intructions
#194 [00:26] <mineceicfrh> ok
#195 [00:26] <mineceicfrh> everything except the saves file?
#196 [00:26] <binkster> yes
#197 [00:28] <binkster> brb
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#199 [00:30] <mineceicfrh> ok so i deleted everything except the saves file
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#201 [00:30] <mineceicfrh> and the files are still the same and the game is at 1.65
#202 [00:30] <binkster> what do u mean the same
#203 [00:30] <mineceicfrh> um
#204 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> binkster - mineceicfrh's tryingto get an older version of the game
#205 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> he had a backup, which he renamed to minecraft.jar
#206 [00:31] <binkster> yes i know, but that is causing him problems
#207 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Then updated the game again
#208 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> What problems?
#209 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> The game is at 1.6.5
#210 [00:31] <binkster> yes i know
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#212 [00:31] <binkster> he cant find the folders after he backgrades
#213 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> That's because, he already used his backup of 1.5_01
#214 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> it was the minecraft.jar that he kept as a backup
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#216 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> Then overwrote with an update
#217 [00:32] <binkster> hmmm,, well mineceicfrh explain what is wrong
#218 [00:32] <binkster> because i am lost
#219 [00:32] <mineceicfrh> umm
#220 [00:33] <mineceicfrh> so what greyvulpine said was my backup or something
#221 [00:33] <mineceicfrh> the old minecraft 1.51
#222 [00:33] <mineceicfrh> i recycled it
#223 [00:33] <mineceicfrh> then after using ccleaner i emptied the bin
#224 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> mineceicfrh - Then that 1.5_01 is gone..
#225 [00:33] <binkster> wait, mineceicrfrh explain everything from the beginning
#226 [00:34] <mineceicfrh> so there was minecraft.jar and minecraft1.51jar
#227 [00:34] <mineceicfrh> i deleted the minecraft.jar
#228 [00:34] <mineceicfrh> and renamed minecraft1.51.jar to minecraft.jar
#229 [00:35] <mineceicfrh> then i accidently updated the game a second time
#230 [00:35] <mineceicfrh> iand then when i went back to the file, it was gone
#231 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Then that backup is gone
#232 [00:35] <mineceicfrh> like what greyvulpine said
#233 [00:35] <mineceicfrh> will i have to pay again?
#234 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> No
#235 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Do you want to play 1.6.5, or revert back to 1.5?
#236 [00:35] <binkster> you can play normally just in 1.6.5
#237 [00:36] <mineceicfrh> revert back to 1.5
#238 [00:36] <mineceicfrh> because that's the version my server plays on
#239 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> Then look into a mod called mcnostalgia
#240 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-tool-cyborgs-tools-mcnostalgia-102-released/
#241 [00:36] <mineceicfrh> ok
#242 [00:37] <mineceicfrh> i'll tell you the results
#243 [00:37] <binkster> what does that mod do?
#244 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Instead of having a person just copy the old minecraft.jar, it patches it an existing minecraft.jar back to older versions
#245 [00:37] <mineceicfrh> i think it's like that one python program
#246 [00:38] <binkster> o ok
#247 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> Kind of a grey legal way of getting an older version of minecraft.jar, without getting it from an illegal, non-official site
#248 [00:38] <binkster> hmmm ok
#249 [00:39] <oldtopmanserver> How is it not illegal?
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#251 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't give the full binary of a minecraft.jar, it patches an already existing minecraft.jar to an older version
#252 [00:39] <binkster> beecause you are not swapping an actually mojang .jar file
#253 [00:39] <binkster> i think
#254 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> Kinda sorta like that, yeah
#255 [00:39] <oldtopmanserver> Redistributing ANY part of minecraft is illegal
#256 [00:40] <binkster> yes
#257 [00:40] <oldtopmanserver> thus, mcnostalgia = illegal
#258 [00:40] <mib_3h388n> so im getting an error
#259 [00:40] <binkster> it doesn't redistribut
#260 [00:40] <binkster> redistribute
#261 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Apparently the maker of mcnostalgia got in contact with mojang, and they didn't force him to take it down
#262 [00:40] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#262 [00:41] <mib_3h388n> getting some kind of cursor error with a server im running
#263 [00:41] <mib_3h388n> looks like this
#264 [00:41] <mib_3h388n> java.lang.NullPointerException at ll.p_(SourceFile:128) at dh.a(SourceFile:1160) at dn.a(SourceFile:43) at dh.g(SourceFile:1136) at dh.e(SourceFile:1115) at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.h(SourceFile:374) at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(SourceFile:307) at bo.run(SourceFile:422)
#265 [00:41] <mib_3h388n> any clues what that is?
#266 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> corrupt server, most likely
#267 [00:41] <binkster> grey?
#268 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> possibly corrupt map, I can't tell
#269 [00:41] <oldtopmanserver> mib_3h388n: Delete the user file for that person
#270 [00:42] <mib_3h388n> it happens as sson as i initiate the server
#271 [00:42] <binkster> corrupt then
#272 [00:42] <mib_3h388n> i get that error feed right after it says preparing blahblah done
#273 [00:42] <mib_3h388n> the .jar?
#274 [00:42] <binkster> the server/map
#275 [00:43] <mib_3h388n> screwed?
#276 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Do you get anything else other than that?
#277 [00:43] <binkster> are u the administrator?
#278 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin.com the server's log?
#279 [00:43] <mib_3h388n> hmm that i dont know
#280 [00:43] <mib_3h388n> new to the server stuff
#281 [00:43] <mib_3h388n> im not the admin though
#282 [00:43] <binkster> are u the administrator?
#283 [00:43] <mib_3h388n> negatice
#284 [00:43] <binkster> then they have to deal with it
#285 [00:43] <mib_3h388n> -c+v
#286 [00:44] <binkster> i dont know how to fix a corrupt server world
#287 [00:45] <binkster> well i got to go be back later tonight
#288 [00:45] <binkster> c ya
#289 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Laters
#290 [00:45] <mib_3h388n> yeah
#291 [00:45] <mib_3h388n> works fine with anotehr map
#292 [00:46] <mib_3h388n> be nice if there were an autosave file
#293 [00:46] <oldtopmanserver> save-on?
#294 [00:46] <mib_3h388n> it si
#295 [00:46] <mib_3h388n> shoul di check the old region dat?
#296 [00:47] <mib_3h388n> level dat i mean
#297 [00:49] * Kealper rawrs
#297 [00:50] <mineceicfrh> so which patch file do i download
#298 [00:50] <mineceicfrh> 1.65
#299 [00:50] <mineceicfrh> ?
#300 [00:50] <Kealper> 1.6.5 is the latest one
#301 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> if you want 1.5_01, download that one
#302 [00:50] <mineceicfrh> i dont see it
#303 [00:51] <oldtopmanserver> GreyVulpine: Don't you see this is illegal?
#304 [00:51] <mineceicfrh> it's not illegal
#305 [00:52] <Kealper> depends
#306 [00:52] <Kealper> since i just got here, i can't speak for this specific case
#307 [00:52] <Kealper> but....
#308 [00:52] <Kealper> if you saved the .jars yourself, it's not agaist the rules, and Notch has even said he's perfectly ok with it
#309 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> oldtopmanserver's talking about mcnostalgia itself
#310 [00:53] <oldtopmanserver> you download the changed bits from a repo
#311 [00:53] <Kealper> i haven't actually looked in to that...what's it do?
#312 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-tool-cyborgs-tools-mcnostalgia-102-released/
#313 [00:54] <oldtopmanserver> The One Major Rule
#314 [00:54] <oldtopmanserver> Do not distribute anything we've made
#315 [00:54] * oldtopmanserver was pretty sure (until this point) that the ops weren't stupid
#315 [00:54] <oldtopmanserver> Small bits, patches, changed things are parts of "anything"
#316 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> I've been on the fence about mcnostalgia ever since it's been mentioned
#317 [00:54] <Kealper> this downloads the .jars from a central repo?
#318 [00:55] <mineceicfrh> so am i supposed to download 1.65 patch files? because i cant find the patch files for 1.5?
#319 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> No
#320 [00:55] <oldtopmanserver> Thus, mcnostalgia = illegal
#321 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> It patches the .jar based on differences
#322 [00:55] <Kealper> ehh....
#323 [00:55] <oldtopmanserver> kealper: It downloads the changed bits (patches) from a central repo
#324 [00:55] <Kealper> i'm not quite sure how i feel about that :/
#325 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> Again, still on the fence.
#326 [00:55] <oldtopmanserver> HOW YOU FEEL?
#327 [00:55] <oldtopmanserver> Its simple
#328 [00:55] <mineceicfrh> is this video reliable greyvulpine? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKfLJkDT_js
#329 [00:55] <Kealper> i'm sorta leaning more towards no....
#330 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> mineceicfrh - I don't know..
#331 [00:56] <mineceicfrh> oh ok
#332 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> I've never used mcnostalgia before
#333 [00:56] <oldtopmanserver> What is there to lean about.
#334 [00:56] <oldtopmanserver> Mcnostalgia = illegal
#335 [00:56] <oldtopmanserver> End.
#336 [00:56] <oldtopmanserver> Of.
#337 [00:56] <oldtopmanserver> Story.
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#339 [00:57] <Azu|elsewhere> What's the best way to get into a bed in their current state?
#340 [00:57] <Azu|elsewhere> I seemingly get zero response
#341 [00:58] <Wug> I have no idea what you just asked.
#342 [00:58] <Azu|elsewhere> beds, they're seemingly broken
#343 [00:58] <Azu|elsewhere> right-clicking one gives me absolutely nothing
#344 [00:58] <Wug> mcnostalgia isn't illegal
#345 [00:59] <Wug> jar patching isnt distributing anything made by mojang
#346 [00:59] <Wug> I've asked jeb about it
#347 [00:59] <Kealper> oh, Jeb is "fine" with it?
#348 [00:59] <Wug> Azu|elsewhere, no clue. is it daytime or something
#349 [00:59] <Wug> Kealper, yes
#350 [01:00] <Wug> fine (TM) **
#351 [01:00] <Azu|elsewhere> it hasn't been, no
#352 [01:00] <Wug> ** - I haven't asked my lawyers but it's ok with me
#353 [01:00] <Wug> azu, is this in smp
#354 [01:00] <Kealper> because i see it being in a very dark grey area, and i don't really like how it sounds, but i don't think it's against TOS :/
#355 [01:00] <jeb> Wug: mcnostalgia is %100
#356 [01:00] * Kealper kicked jeb from #minecrafthelp (Reason: jeb)
#357 [01:00] <Azu|elsewhere> yes it is in SMP
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#359 [01:00] <Kealper> no.
#360 [01:01] <oldtopmanserver> Wug: Did jeb get kicked shortly afterwards?
#361 [01:01] <oldtopmanserver> XD
#362 [01:01] <Wug> for the record, doing that is a bad idea
#363 [01:01] <Kealper> ^
#364 [01:01] <Wug> if you'd have spoken in any of the other channels, the bots would've permabanned you
#365 [01:01] <Wug> or the ops, either way
#366 [01:01] <Wug> Azu|elsewhere, it might be an issue with the server you're on
#367 [01:02] <oldtopmanserver> just making a point
#368 [01:02] <Wug> but the patches don't distribute things mojang made
#369 [01:02] * oldtopmanserver is curious
#369 [01:02] <Kealper> oldtopmanserver: what point? that anyone can say their name is jeb?
#370 [01:02] <oldtopmanserver> yes
#371 [01:02] <Wug> do you know jeb's hostname?
#372 [01:02] <oldtopmanserver> and the fact that I doubt that he just showed up and declared that its all good
#373 [01:02] <Kealper> oldtopmanserver: doesn't really work too well when we can see where you are connecting from :/
#374 [01:03] <oldtopmanserver> Yeah, but I did it anyway
#375 [01:03] <Wug> he didn't just show up, I pm'd him
#376 [01:03] <Kealper> oldtopmanserver: he's almost always on IRC, although i won't say where
#377 [01:03] <Wug> because this exact same debate occurred in #minecraftforums
#378 [01:03] <Wug> he's in a million places
#379 [01:03] <Wug> he's the most active mojang staff member on esper
#380 [01:03] <Kealper> and his bouncer is set to change his nick when he is disconnected from it, allowing you to temporarily take the name jeb
#381 [01:04] <Wug> mine does the same thiong
#382 [01:04] <Wug> try /nick the
#383 [01:04] * Azu|elsewhere [Azu|elsewhere@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#384 [01:04] * Kealper used to have screen do that until he started playing IdleRPG :<
#384 [01:08] * Kealper is still reading around on MCNostalgia
#384 [01:08] * Kealper is still on the fence about it
#384 [01:08] <Wug> it uses a difference patch to modify the jar from one version to another
#385 [01:08] <Wug> it only works if you start with a valid unmodified copy of the jar
#386 [01:09] <Wug> any version will do
#387 [01:09] <Kealper> yeah, i see how he is doing it now, although i still think it's a bit shady :/
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#389 [01:09] <Wug> it is a bit shady, but it's not against the rules
#390 [01:09] <Wug> since no classes or anything authored by mojang changes hands
#391 [01:09] <Wug> the patches on their own are just gibberish
#392 [01:09] <mineceicfrh> ok i dont mean to do anything but is it really necessary to be arguing on whether this program is illegal or not here?
#393 [01:09] <Wug> yes >:D
#394 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#395 [01:10] <mineceicfrh> ok
#396 [01:10] <Kealper> like, if someone made a backup tool that actually archives the old jars on your own computer, i'd be completely fine with that, and probably recommend it incase crap hit the fan...the only issue i have with MCNostalgia is that it gets it from a remote source that isn't minecraft.net :/
#397 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> If we deemed it to be illegal, we won't mention it again.
#398 [01:10] <Wug> its third party so we don't have to support it
#399 [01:10] <froglegstew> i just downloaded minecraft and none of the controls seem to work. every key on my keyboard cycles through my items...i can't go forward or move in any way
#400 [01:10] <froglegstew> help
#401 [01:10] <Wug> but we can choose whether or not to kick people who mention using it
#402 [01:10] <Kealper> froglegstew: do you have Comcast Constant Guard installed?
#403 [01:10] <froglegstew> yes i do
#404 [01:11] <Kealper> froglegstew: uninstall it
#405 [01:11] <Wug> or perhaps just disable it
#406 [01:11] <froglegstew> ok i'll give it a try thanks
#407 [01:11] <Wug> or is that not enough?
#408 [01:11] <Kealper> i know that sounds blunt, but not only is it crap software, it breaks MC
#409 [01:11] <Wug> ?? ccg
#410 [01:11] <Kealper> Wug: not sure what that is, but vox has an entry for it
#411 [01:11] <froglegstew> thanks!
#412 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> ?? phantominput
#413 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> I bleive
#414 [01:11] <VoxelHead> phantominput: If you installed 'Constant Guard by Comcast' and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, uninstall it. This is a known issue.
#415 [01:12] <Wug> ok
#416 [01:12] <Kealper> oh lol
#417 [01:12] <Wug> I was about to define ccg
#418 [01:12] <Kealper> ??< classic/flatmap
#419 [01:12] * Wug doesn't think too highly of comcast
#419 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Hah, I made that flatmap entry a long time ago'
#420 [01:12] <froglegstew> amen
#421 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> Got tired of people asking for it, and me having to google for it every time
#422 [01:13] <Kealper> lol
#423 [01:13] <Wug> anyway, mcnostalgia is in something of a shady legal area, and as such, there is nothing definitively illegal about it
#424 [01:13] <Kealper> is the downloadable one in that entry flat at Y 64 or Y 0?
#425 [01:13] <Wug> from what I have gathered, mojang's stance is that it's ok to use
#426 [01:14] <Kealper> Wug: yeah, that's why we seem to be on the fence about it here
#427 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - I think Y0
#428 [01:14] <Wug> and unless they update their stance, I think it would be best if we took it as legal
#429 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> There's at least a few levels of dirt on it
#430 [01:15] <Kealper> oh, meh
#431 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> If you have a better one, replace the entry
#432 [01:15] <Kealper> i haven't touched classic in ages so i wouldn't even know where to get one lol
#433 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> I'm not particularly attached to that specific one
#434 [01:17] <Kealper> hmmm.....
#435 [01:17] <Kealper> ??< bindport
#436 [01:17] * Kealper makes note of that one
#436 [01:17] <Wug> I'm curious as to what those are. stop doing private ??s
#437 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> ?
#438 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> ?? bindport
#439 [01:17] <VoxelHead> bindport: If you get a message about being unable to "bind to port", one of two things is happening: Either you are starting a Minecraft server when you already have one running, or you have specified an IP address in server.properties that does not exist on your server. The server-ip line of server.properties should in nearly all cases remain blank.
#440 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#441 [01:19] <Wug> Mind if I modify bindport?
#442 [01:19] <Wug> to If you get a message about being unable to "bind to port", one of two things is happening: 1) Either you are starting a Minecraft server when you already have one running, 2) there is a firewall or other service using or blocking the port, 3) you have specified an IP address in server.properties that does not exist on your server. The server-ip line of server.properties should in nearly all cases remain blank.
#443 [01:19] <Wug> there's that 3rd thing
#444 [01:20] <Kealper> "one of three things is happening"
#445 [01:20] <Wug> If you get a message about being unable to "bind to port", one of three things is happening: 1) Either you are starting a Minecraft server when you already have one running, 2) there is a firewall or other service using or blocking the port, 3) you have specified an IP address in server.properties that does not exist on your server. The server-ip line of server.properties should in nearly all cases remain blank.
#446 [01:20] <Kealper> also, the exact message is "failed to bind port!"
#447 [01:20] <Kealper> and go for it if you want to edit it lol
#448 [01:20] <Wug> If you get a message like "failed to bind to port!", one of three things is happening: 1) Either you are starting a Minecraft server when you already have one running, 2) there is a firewall or other service using or blocking the port, 3) you have specified an IP address in server.properties that does not exist on your server. The server-ip line of server.properties should in nearly all cases remain blank.
#449 [01:21] <Wug> ??~ bindport|If you get a message like "failed to bind to port!", one of three things is happening: 1) Either you are starting a Minecraft server when you already have one running, 2) there is a firewall or other service using or blocking the port, 3) you have specified an IP address in server.properties that does not exist on your server. The server-ip line of server.properties should in nearly all cases remain blank.
#450 [01:22] <Wug> grey, do you run aubot, or is that someone else
#451 [01:22] <Wug> I assume greybot is yours
#452 [01:22] <Wug> so aubot probably isnt
#453 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> aubot is kealper's
#454 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Mine is greybot, obviously
#455 [01:23] <Kealper> what about my dumbot? lol
#456 [01:23] <Wug> lol aubot is famous
#457 [01:23] <Kealper> so i've been noticing lol
#458 [01:23] <Kealper> did you see it mentioned in the wild somewhere? lol
#459 [01:23] <Wug> perhaps I should duplicate that functionality in wugbot
#460 [01:24] * Wug is a rip off artist wololo
#460 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Oh, I noticed this yesterday
#461 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/326787-a-list-or-irc-bots/
#462 [01:24] <Kealper> i've been thinking about making aubot's !check thing more advanced
#463 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Couldn't be arsed to make a forum account to correct any of that
#464 [01:24] <Kealper> if i could ever stop being lazy
#465 [01:25] <Wug> its plenty advanced
#466 [01:25] <Wug> has address and port
#467 [01:25] <Wug> all you'd ever need
#468 [01:26] <Kealper> i was actually thinking about making it go though with the handshake
#469 [01:26] <Wug> it might need account information to make that work
#470 [01:27] <Kealper> yeah, it would
#471 [01:27] * Wug registers aubot on minecraft.net
#471 [01:28] <Kealper> it already has a free account registered, if i got the http side of the handshake working i was going to ask Mojang to give it a premium
#472 [01:28] * Wug sells kealper the account for $50
#472 [01:28] <Kealper> i alrady did that :P
#473 [01:28] <Kealper> already*
#474 [01:28] <Wug> if it can get as far as being kicked by the server for not being premium that would be good
#475 [01:28] <Kealper> yeah, it gets that far lol
#476 [01:28] <Kealper> hell
#477 [01:29] <Kealper> that'd be fine now that i think about it
#478 [01:29] <Wug> and lol it could automatically kick people who !check offline servers
#479 [01:29] <Kealper> just getting far enough to get the "You need to log in!" thing or whatever
#480 [01:29] <Wug> because they're just being pirates
#481 [01:29] <Kealper> lol
#482 [01:29] <Wug> mcp doesn't require a username and password
#483 [01:29] <Wug> it bypasses the launcher
#484 [01:29] <Kealper> i has a dumb question
#485 [01:30] <Kealper> what is MCP?
#486 [01:30] <Wug> the only thing that keeps everyone from using it is its giant learning curve
#487 [01:30] <Wug> its the dev tool that most modders use
#488 [01:30] <Kealper> ahh
#489 [01:30] <frozen> one question thatve been bugging me -- why is it called SMP, cant it be called MP in general? or is there an new MP genre coming out eventually?
#490 [01:30] <Wug> we all have paid for it, but we just couldn't be arsed to make the launcher work
#491 [01:30] <Kealper> used to just start the game quickly for testing or something?
#492 [01:30] <Wug> Survival MultiPlayer
#493 [01:30] <Wug> yeah
#494 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Different from Creative
#495 [01:31] <Wug> as opposed to Creative Multiplater
#496 [01:31] <Wug> y*
#497 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> And adventure mode will be out later
#498 [01:31] <frozen> oh so theres a CMP server out there in the wild?
#499 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Classic = Creative
#500 [01:31] <Wug> there're a zillion
#501 [01:31] <frozen> oh allright
#502 [01:31] <frozen> thanks for the clarification, I thought it was related to the game mode itself
#503 [01:31] <frozen> not the style of play
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#507 [01:46] <byron8595> hi i bought minecraft and for some reason it will not even start the process of downloading it. How do I get it started?
#508 [01:49] <Kealper> what part are you having problems with?
#509 [01:49] <Kealper> downloading minecraft.exe or actually updating the game files when you get it logged in?
#510 [01:50] <Ketsueki> byron8595: what OS are you using? Windows, Mac OSX, or something Linux/*nix based?
#511 [01:50] * Kealper is going to assume Windows
#511 [01:51] * Ketsueki knows what's said about /assuming/
#511 [01:51] <byron8595> i hit download (save) and nothing happens and i have windows 7
#512 [01:51] <Kealper> maths are on my side on this one D:
#513 [01:51] * Kealper nailed it
#513 [01:51] <Kealper> byron8595: try this link that AuBot will give, choose the one for Windows
#514 [01:51] <Kealper> !client
#515 [01:52] <Kealper> AuBot: stop being dumb
#516 [01:52] <Kealper> !client
#517 [01:54] <byron8595> The message I keep getting is this file couldn't be downloaded and then retry pops up but that doesn't work
#518 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like some sort of antivirus or security software blocking the download
#519 [01:56] <byron8595> ok i will check
#520 [01:57] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: could also be a fake anti-virus... honestly the interwebs are getting scarrier these days.
#521 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> Could be, sure..
#522 [01:59] <Kealper> ?fake anti-virus
#523 [01:59] <Kealper> fail
#524 [01:59] <Kealper> >fake anti-virus
#525 [01:59] <Kealper> >he's probably got Norton
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#527 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, but I've seen a combination of norton+IE cutting off the .exe from minecraft.exe these past few days
#528 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> Don't know if either of them's doing it
#529 [02:00] <Kealper> ya know what?
#530 [02:00] <Shinato> well thats cause nortons a piece of shit
#531 [02:00] <Kealper> i need to check what sort of headers mc.net is sending
#532 [02:01] <Kealper> because i did a test and it's only with mc.net that those specific people get the .exe cut off
#533 [02:02] <Kealper> (no one seen me say that, don't let your mind wander on what i meant by "did a test")
#534 [02:03] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#534 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> As long as you had protection... what happens in a VM, stays in a VM..
#535 [02:03] <Kealper> ^
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#538 [02:04] * GreyVulpine thinks about readding that ban for another couple hours
#538 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Also.
#539 [02:06] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper towards: http://statistics.minecraftirc.net/minecrafthelp.html
#539 [02:06] <Shinato> http://imgur.com/HVXWn this is what im getting with LB photorealism x256. yes ive used the HD patcher, changed mcpatcher to 2048 mode, and gone into java and given it more ram to use, but that hasnt solved it either. i have 4GB ddr3 ram, quad core with a Geforce 9600. anyone have a clue WTF is going on?
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#541 [02:06] <mib_mhne2r> hello
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#544 [02:07] <mib_mhne2r> so i keep getting this error
#545 [02:07] <Kealper> hmm....
#546 [02:07] <mib_mhne2r> load: class net.minecraft.Launcher not found
#547 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I haven't used an HD texture patch yet.
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#549 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - How are you trying to launch minecraft?
#550 [02:07] <mib_mhne2r> along with a string of more java information
#551 [02:07] <mib_mhne2r> in browser
#552 [02:07] <mib_mhne2r> when i launch it from the application it says "cannot connect to minecraft.net"
#553 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Classic or beta?
#554 [02:07] <mib_mhne2r> beta
#555 [02:07] <Kealper> that stats thing has been running the few days that i've been not very active in here :<
#556 [02:07] <mib_mhne2r> in chrome
#557 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. windows?
#558 [02:08] <mib_mhne2r> vista, 64bit
#559 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Strange question, does your windows username have an (!) symbol at the end?
#560 [02:08] <mib_mhne2r> no
#561 [02:08] <Shinato> so......?
#562 [02:08] <mib_mhne2r> most recent java and most recent version of chrome
#563 [02:08] <Shinato> anyone know what i should do?
#564 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Shinato - No idea, try #risucraft, maybe they'll have a better idea?
#565 [02:09] <mib_mhne2r> does anyone know how to fix this java/application problem
#566 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - Hmm.. Could you copy the entire error and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#567 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Give us the link to it
#568 [02:10] <mib_mhne2r> sure
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#570 [02:11] <mib_mhne2r> for your enjoyment: http://pastebin.com/95Yjg3VU
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#572 [02:11] <Fetology> Hello
#573 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#574 [02:11] <mib_mhne2r> inorite
#575 [02:11] <st3phie> accidently updated to 1.6 and due to bukkit's delay, i can't access my friend's server. is there a way around this? even tried in browser and re-downloading and a different computer but it looks like it registers with the login
#576 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - I'm quite honestly drawing a blank at the moment..
#577 [02:13] <Fetology> Im having a problem getting the game running period, I just downloaded it and when i double click or right click and hit run as admin. It literally does nothing. No hourglass, no nothing.
#578 [02:13] <mib_mhne2r> i dont blame you, so has google
#579 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> st3phie - Unless you backed up 1.5 before you updated, there really isn't a way to back it up to 1.5 when you update to 1.6.5.
#580 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Though, there is a semi-legal mod that can do this for you, called mcnostalgia.
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#582 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> I'm still quite on the fence about recommending it though
#583 [02:13] <mib_mhne2r> this error seems to not be uncommon, either
#584 [02:14] <mib_mhne2r> others on the forum have reported this
#585 [02:14] <st3phie> yea...didn't backup 1.5..didnt even think about it when i clicked to update..c.rap
#586 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - It usually occurs when minecraft can't find the file needed to run minecraft
#587 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - What oS?
#588 [02:14] <mib_mhne2r> but what other files are needed to run minecraft?
#589 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> er, operating system
#590 [02:14] <Fetology> windows 7
#591 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - Everything inside %appdata%/.minecraft
#592 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - How much RAM free do you have?
#593 [02:14] <mib_mhne2r> where is that directory located?
#594 [02:14] <st3phie> my friend said something about copying another player's .jar file? but idk
#595 [02:15] <mib_mhne2r> nevermind, i found it
#596 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> st3phie - If I didn't hear about it here, you can do whatever.. but getting minecraft files from non official sources is against the terms of service, so is distributing it
#597 [02:15] <Fetology> Im not positive, but i just got this pc like 3 days ago and i've only installed mozilla firefix broswer on it
#598 [02:15] <mib_mhne2r> where can i download the file?
#599 [02:15] <Fetology> So im sure its enough
#600 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - There should be a minecraft.jar file in %appdata%/.minecraft/bin?
#601 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - Did you download minecraft.exe from minecraft.net?
#602 [02:16] <Fetology> Yes
#603 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - Is it named exactly minecraft.exe, with the extension?
#604 [02:16] <mib_mhne2r> there is not
#605 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Do you have java installed on your computer?
#606 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - There.. isn't?
#607 [02:16] <mib_mhne2r> nope
#608 [02:16] <Fetology> veriosn 6 update 24
#609 [02:16] <mib_mhne2r> oddest thing
#610 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - That's.. not right
#611 [02:16] <st3phie> gotcha, yea someone also suggested 1.5 pirated version but im not comfortable either... guess theres no way to fix it and just wait for bukkit?
#612 [02:16] <byron8595> I turned off the firewall and antiviris and tried to download and it still wouldn't let me
#613 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> st3phie - Try looking into a mod called mcnostalgia
#614 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> google for it
#615 [02:17] <st3phie> k greyvulpine thanks
#616 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> We offer no support for it here though
#617 [02:17] <Shinato> sorry if its spam but its easier to copy paste my last message
#618 [02:17] <Shinato> http://imgur.com/HVXWn this is what im getting with LB photorealism x256. yes ive used the HD patcher, changed mcpatcher to 2048 mode, and gone into java and given it more ram to use, but that hasnt solved it either. i have 4GB ddr3 ram, quad core with a Geforce 9600. anyone have a clue WTF is going on?
#619 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> You didn't get any answer from #risucraft Shinato?
#620 [02:17] <mib_mhne2r> do you recommend downloading the jar file from the linux/other area of the download page?
#621 [02:17] <Shinato> nope
#622 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - No, it's not the same minecraft.jar
#623 [02:17] <st3phie> understood ;)
#624 [02:17] <mib_mhne2r> hmmm
#625 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - Is your computer somehow blocking minecraft from downloading?
#626 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any security software on the computer mib_mhne2r?
#627 [02:18] <mib_mhne2r> i do: AVG and COMODO
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#629 [02:18] <mib_mhne2r> however java is allowed on minecraft
#630 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - Hmm, could you check your event viewer for any application logs that might provide a clue, start -> control panel -> classic view -> administrative tools -> event viewer
#631 [02:18] <mib_mhne2r> and it has been added to my exception list on my firewall
#632 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Shinato - Bleh, you're sure you're getting the right texture patch, and the absolute latest patcher?
#633 [02:19] <Fetology> 1 sec
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#635 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Shinato - Links if you can
#636 [02:19] <mib_mhne2r> i'll poke around to see if anything is blocking it
#637 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - Alright.
#638 [02:20] <needhelp> how do i update my video drivers?
#639 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> needhelp - Depends on what video card you have
#640 [02:20] <needhelp> im on a toshiba portege windows 7
#641 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> needhelp - Could you give me this:
#642 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> ??> needhelp win/dxdiag
#643 [02:20] <VoxelHead> needhelp: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#644 [02:20] <VoxelHead> needhelp: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#645 [02:21] <needhelp> wat is the win key?
#646 [02:21] <Fetology> What am i looking for in the event viewer?
#647 [02:22] <needhelp> sorry, but i dont really know anything about computers and have no idea what u mean
#648 [02:22] <Kealper> needhelp: the little flag-looking key on your keyboard
#649 [02:22] <needhelp> ok, then wat/
#650 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - Any mention of java or minecraft not being able to open
#651 [02:23] <needhelp> yes, but i downloaded the new java so that is fine i think
#652 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> java does not include video drivers for your machine
#653 [02:23] <Fetology> Nothing about either one
#654 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Once you press the Windows+R key, a run command will pop up
#655 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Type in: dxdiag
#656 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Press yes if it inquires abuot WHQL
#657 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Once you have the dxdiag diagnotic console open, press the "Save all information" button in the lower right. save it as a text file on your desktop
#658 [02:25] <needhelp> do i go to the next page?
#659 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Open the text file, copy all the information on it, go to http://www.pastebin.com, paste it all there, press submit, and give us the link at the top of your browser when you're finished
#660 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> No
#661 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - Hmm. Has minecraft worked before?
#662 [02:25] <Fetology> Yes
#663 [02:25] <Fetology> Before this recent update
#664 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> On your current computer?
#665 [02:26] <Fetology> Yes
#666 [02:26] <needhelp> will you give me a virus?
#667 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> needhelp - No, because you're not downloading anything
#668 [02:27] <needhelp> ok, ive put it on the pastebin thing, now wat?
#669 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - Could you open up the task manager, go to the performance tab, and look at the physical memory box, what's the number next to available
#670 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> needhelp - Press the submit button
#671 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> needhelp - Then give me the link
#672 [02:28] <mib_mhne2r> hello again, i can't find anything that would be blocking it
#673 [02:28] <needhelp> http://pastebin.com/yxk733Nd thats it, please dont hurt my computer
#674 [02:29] <Fetology> 812
#675 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - Hmm could you do this:
#676 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - Go to http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp - Download the minecraft.jar, put it on your desktop
#677 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - On your desktop, make a new notepad file, you're going to make a batch file. Put in the text file:
#678 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#679 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> pause
#680 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Those exact two lines
#681 [02:30] <needhelp> could you please look at my link, i got 2 go soon
#682 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Save it, choose "All files" in notepad, and put in Run.bat
#683 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> needhelp -You needed new video drivers, correct?
#684 [02:31] <needhelp> yes
#685 [02:31] <mib_mhne2r> is fetology having the same problem i am?
#686 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> No
#687 [02:31] <mib_mhne2r> darn
#688 [02:31] <mib_mhne2r> if i had that jar file would it work then?
#689 [02:32] <needhelp> is my video drivers fixed?
#690 [02:33] <mib_mhne2r> omg, you are going to be so proud of me GreyVulpine
#691 [02:33] <mib_mhne2r> i got the application to work
#692 [02:33] <needhelp> i havent
#693 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> needhelp - You'll want to go here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19936&ProdId=2991&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%2C%2032-bit*&DownloadType=Drivers
#694 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> needhelp - Those are your video drivers
#695 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - Oh?
#696 [02:34] <needhelp> there safe?
#697 [02:34] <mib_mhne2r> yeah, i went through my firewall settings and allowed everything related to java
#698 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> needhelp - It's from intel's site
#699 [02:34] <mib_mhne2r> then i launched the application and it went through
#700 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_mhne2r - Oh yay.
#701 [02:34] <mib_mhne2r> don't know about the browser still, but i'm happy
#702 [02:34] * GreyVulpine nods
#702 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> Which firewall? Comodo?
#703 [02:35] <mib_mhne2r> yeah
#704 [02:35] * GreyVulpine nods
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#705 [02:35] <mib_mhne2r> thanks greyvulpine, keep up the good work
#706 [02:35] <mib_mhne2r> nods
#707 [02:35] <needhelp> do i just click on the download thing down the bottom of my screen and its good?
#708 [02:35] <Fetology> After i save the txt file with those 2 lines in it, how do i go baout putting it in Run.bat?
#709 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - Save as in notepad, Select "All files" as the file type, and just put in Run.bat for the filename
#710 [02:36] <needhelp> my downloads finished, do i click on it?
#711 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> needhelp - Once you download it, you'll need to install it on your computer
#712 [02:36] <needhelp> then minecraft will work?
#713 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully.
#714 [02:37] <needhelp> thank you soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much
#715 [02:38] <Fetology> kk done
#716 [02:38] <needhelp> :) :D :P
#717 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> Fetology - Double click on the Run.bat to run minecraft
#718 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> See if it'll launch
#719 [02:41] <Fetology> Nothing
#720 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Does anything pop up in the command prompt window?
#721 [02:41] <Fetology> Press any key to continue
#722 [02:41] <Fetology> I hit enter, then nothing
#723 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> Weird.. it's not passing back any errors..
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#725 [02:44] * GreyVulpine prods Kealper
#725 [02:44] <Fetology> Out of ideas?
#726 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> I mean, I could suggest the ever popular, uninstall/reinstall java, just to be sure..
#727 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> But minecraft would've passed back some sort of error if it was that
#728 [02:46] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: it's got to be either Hardware or Windows
#729 [02:46] <Fetology> I can run Rift just fine
#730 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> Usually, when minecraft doesn't launch like that, it's been my experience that it's due to not enough RAM
#731 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> But we've cleared that with the .bat file
#732 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> You had close to a gig free, I made it run with 512 megs allocated
#733 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> There's nothing in the event viewer that might suggest something is wrong..
#734 [02:49] <Fetology> Hmm i might have found the problem i think
#735 [02:49] <Fetology> %appdata%/.minecraft/
#736 [02:49] <Fetology> That folder is empty
#737 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#738 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, because minecraft.exe hasn't launched
#739 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> If you haven't logged in, files wouldn't have been downloaded
#740 [02:50] <Ketsueki> Fetology: wait... your folder is /empty/ but is a folder?
#741 [02:50] <Fetology> No, the .minecraft folder is there but is emtpy
#742 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> It creates the folder when the launcher is run..
#743 [02:50] <Fetology> Well i guess its there
#744 [02:51] <Ketsueki> Please go up to %appdata%/ delete the .minecraft folder (you might need to change your explorer view options) and try again?
#745 [02:51] <Fetology> I just hit %appdata%/.minecraft/
#746 [02:51] <Fetology> And it says this folder is empty
#747 [02:51] <Fetology> You want me to delete the .minecraft folder?
#748 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> I'm out of ideas right now
#749 [02:52] <Ketsueki> Fetology: it's empty right?
#750 [02:52] <Fetology> Yes
#751 [02:52] <Ketsueki> Fetology: if you're worried rename it to anything else.
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#753 [02:52] <Ketsueki> Fetology: I mean, you tried everything besides this...
#754 [02:52] <Fetology> kk, how do i delete it?
#755 [02:52] <Ketsueki> Well... there are a bunch of ways that come to mind; but none are /easy/ to describe.
#756 [02:53] <Ketsueki> Anyone here with a windows system can tell me if win-logo + cmd and then in the box c: cd %appdata% actually works?
#757 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#758 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> It does
#759 [02:54] <Ketsueki> winlogo + cmd c: cd %appdata% rmdir .minecraft (IIRC)
#760 [02:55] <Ketsueki> you might need to right click on the cmd application that shows up and run as administrator; depending on the privileges you ran the minecraft client as.
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#762 [02:56] <Fetology> A little to much tech talk for me lol, cmd app?
#763 [02:56] <Ketsueki> Fetology: it's the win-7 way of getting a 'dos window'
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#765 [02:57] <selsper> trying to update on win7 and it's saying access deinied
#766 [02:57] <Fetology> cmd.exe?
#767 [02:57] <Ketsueki> The four commands I just gave you are actually easier than describing how to disable to stuff to let you see, select, and shift+del the folder in explorer.exe
#768 [02:58] <Ketsueki> yes
#769 [02:58] <Ketsueki> however cmd is all you need to type to run it
#770 [02:58] <Fetology> I have it open
#771 [02:58] <Ketsueki> c: (enter) cd ... (enter) rmdir ... (enter)
#772 [02:58] <Fetology> I just typed cmd in run
#773 [02:58] <Ketsueki> You haven't opened the program yet, it's just there /waiting/ for you to open it
#774 [03:00] <Fetology> Forget it man, i'll just look at it like 20 dollars i burned for fun or something, peace and thx for your time
#775 [03:01] <Ketsueki> Fetology: please do try it again later; it might spontainously work in a version or two
#776 [03:01] <Ketsueki> Or at least detect whatever failed and tell you what it needs to fix it.
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#778 [03:03] <selsper> does anybody know why i can't update?
#779 [03:04] <xales> ??> selsper win/reinst
#780 [03:04] <VoxelHead> selsper: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#781 [03:04] <VoxelHead> selsper: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#782 [03:06] <selsper> cheers VoxelHead
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#785 [03:09] <Puddles> Can someone help me
#786 [03:09] <xales> With?
#787 [03:10] <Puddles> I made a server using the tool from minecraft.net, I can join fine. But when my friend joins it says "connection timed out"
#788 [03:10] <Puddles> http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3975/timeouta.png
#789 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> First question, port forwarding?
#790 [03:10] <Puddles> huh?
#791 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> I'll take that as a no
#792 [03:10] <Puddles> I am
#793 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> Is your friend in the same house as you?
#794 [03:10] <Puddles> for Warcrafft 3
#795 [03:11] <Puddles> No
#796 [03:11] <Puddles> I am port forwarding for a game called Warcraft 3
#797 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> Have you port forwarded 25565/TCP in your router?
#798 [03:11] <Puddles> no
#799 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft server requires 25565 to be port forwarded
#800 [03:11] <Puddles> should i do that?
#801 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#802 [03:11] <Puddles> so for range, put 25565-25565
#803 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#804 [03:13] <Puddles> Should i remove the other game im port forwarding too? or no
#805 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Nah
#806 [03:13] <Puddles> k its done, let me re-start and test
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#808 [03:17] <Binkster> hello i am back
#809 [03:17] <Binkster> Any interesting problems while i was gone grey?
#810 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> One I couldn't solve, minecraft wouldn't run on windows
#811 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> No idea why
#812 [03:19] <Binkster> hmmm intersting, did they try both versions??
#813 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Tried the .exe as well as setting up a batch file with the .jar
#814 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> No errors in either
#815 [03:19] <Binkster> wow thats weird
#816 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Event viewer didn't pop up anything, neither did the command prompt
#817 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Had close to a gig of RAM free, java was installed
#818 [03:20] <Binkster> wow
#819 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> The launcher didn't run at all. Windows made a beep sound, that was it
#820 [03:20] <Binkster> he might not be telling you something you never know
#821 [03:20] <Puddles> Vulpine, my friend still cant join
#822 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - What is he using to connect?
#823 [03:20] <Binkster> brb
#824 [03:21] <Puddles> Minecraft game?
#825 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> What IP is he trying to use?
#826 [03:21] <Puddles> the servers ip
#827 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> !check 108.82.126.128
#828 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> That ip?
#829 [03:21] <Puddles> no
#830 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Have him use that ip
#831 [03:21] <Puddles> but i used a different ip to connect
#832 [03:21] <Puddles> to the game
#833 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Trust me on this
#834 [03:22] <Puddles> now it says "failed to loging" for him
#835 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> Failed to login?
#836 [03:23] <Puddles> ya
#837 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> Is it Failed to login, or bad login?
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#839 [03:24] <Puddles> both
#840 [03:24] <Puddles> Failed to login: Bad login
#841 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - What is his minecraft username?
#842 [03:25] <Puddles> PoisonDead
#843 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, have him restart his client, in the part where he logs in, have him go to the options button, and click on "Force update".
#844 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> This'll force the launcher to download fresh files.
#845 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> Then have him try connecting to you again
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#847 [03:27] <Puddles> doesnt work still
#848 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Still bad login?
#849 [03:27] <Puddles> ya
#850 [03:27] <Binkster> back
#851 [03:28] <imyamum> hey wat can i do to fix minecraft i cant mine anything for some reason im confused?
#852 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Huh. um
#853 [03:28] <Binkster> imyamum can i help u
#854 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> imyamum - Did you hold down the left click button?
#855 [03:28] <Binkster> lol
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#857 [03:28] <Binkster> no clicking, hold down
#858 [03:28] <Binkster> awesomeness can i help u
#859 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - Um, one moment.
#860 [03:28] <imyamum> yes i start to do it its starts to crack but then it goes back to normal and yes i hold down and click
#861 [03:28] <Puddles> ok
#862 [03:29] <Binkster> try reinstalling
#863 [03:29] <Binkster> ?? win/reinst
#864 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> imyamum - Keep holding down left click
#865 [03:29] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#866 [03:29] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#867 [03:29] <Binkster> hmmm, too early?
#868 [03:29] <imyamum> im confused?
#869 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> imyamum - Keep holding down left click
#870 [03:30] <Binkster> yes dont click to break a block, never click
#871 [03:30] <imyamum> i dont'
#872 [03:31] <imyamum> it just keeps reseting and i only got the game 2 weeks ago and im dissapointed that i had to pay for it
#873 [03:31] <imyamum> and it doesnt works properly
#874 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - Your server works..
#875 [03:31] <imyamum> voxel can u plz explain wat u said more simply wats windows+R keys?
#876 [03:31] <xales> Are you trying to mine stone without a pick, imyamum?
#877 [03:32] <_303> imyamum: what OS are you using? windows?
#878 [03:32] <imyamum> no im trying to mine anything like dirt leaves wood and everything
#879 [03:32] <imyamum> im using windows yer
#880 [03:32] <Puddles> How come not for him tho? I just turned it to offline to test
#881 [03:32] <imyamum> ? i dont understand
#882 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - The only thing I can suggest for your friend, is for him to go to his .minecraft folder, delete everything inside except for his saves
#883 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - And then relaunch minecraft
#884 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - This'll trigger a complete reinstall of minecraft
#885 [03:33] <imyamum> ok how do i relaunch it like download it again?
#886 [03:33] <Puddles> where is the minecraft folder located
#887 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - On windows, it's %appdata%/.minecraft
#888 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> (run command)
#889 [03:34] <Binkster> ?? win/reinst
#890 [03:34] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#891 [03:34] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#892 [03:38] <Puddles> Grey, it seemed i just needed to turn the Game to offline mode
#893 [03:38] <Puddles> We can all play now!
#894 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> Huh, alright
#895 [03:38] <Puddles> thanks for your help
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#897 [03:39] * GreyVulpine nods
#897 [03:39] <Awesomeness> ...hello GreyVulpine?
#898 [03:40] <Binkster> I can herlp
#899 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#900 [03:41] <Awesomeness> Hi, can I pm you?
#901 [03:41] <imyamum> wats windows+R keys?
#902 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> Windows key is the key between ctrl and alt.
#903 [03:41] <Awesomeness> Windows key = the key that activates start menu.
#904 [03:41] <Binkster> the windows key the one with the logo, and pres r
#905 [03:41] <Awesomeness> Windows key + R = actives run.exe
#906 [03:42] <imyamum> so wat do i do wen im told to do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#907 [03:42] <Binkster> yes
#908 [03:42] <imyamum> ??????????/ i was told it mite fix my problem?
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#910 [03:43] <Binkster> oerg866 can i help u?
#911 [03:43] <Oerg866> Uh.. No, thanks.
#912 [03:43] <Binkster> ok
#913 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> easy there Binkster, no need to scare away people
#914 [03:43] <Binkster> lol
#915 [03:43] <Binkster> well some are shy and won
#916 [03:43] <Binkster> wont ask
#917 [03:43] <Oerg866> LOL. I'm pretty hard to scare away :p
#918 [03:44] <imyamum> maybe well i have bought and downloaded minecraft beta a few weeks ago and i cant mine anything i have tried clicking holding down the left click button everything but nothing seems to work im confused on wat to do to fix the problem???
#919 [03:44] <Oerg866> tahnkfully minecraft runs without issues now :p
#920 [03:44] <imyamum> plz help me fix it
#921 [03:44] <Binkster> did u reinstall?
#922 [03:44] <Oerg866> imyamum: Area you using Windows 9x or 2000?
#923 [03:44] <lemon-rev> imyamum so the game works ?
#924 [03:44] <Binkster> not really
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#926 [03:44] <Oerg866> Cause mining wont work there for some reason
#927 [03:45] <lemon-rev> oerg866 what you mean mineing wont work, what are you trying to do ?
#928 [03:45] <imyamum> how do i do that? i have deleted all everything from the folder except for the saves as i was told to do b4 and im using windows xp.
#929 [03:45] <Oerg866> lemon-rev: No I was answering imyamum ;)
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#931 [03:45] <lemon-rev> lol
#932 [03:45] <lemon-rev> i see
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#934 [03:45] <imyamum> im trying to likie mine dirt and get wood and stuff but it starts to crack and then just restarts to a full block again
#935 [03:45] <VoxelHead> I like TV.
#936 [03:45] <VictoryTime> Is it possible to roll back to 1.5?
#937 [03:45] <lemon-rev> imyamum
#938 [03:46] <lemon-rev> you have to wait for the object ie
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#940 [03:46] <lemon-rev> wood to fully crack and become a small block
#941 [03:46] <imyamum> ???????????/
#942 [03:46] <VoxelHead> wooo... I like destroying
#943 [03:46] <xales> VictoryTime: Only if you have a personal backup of it
#944 [03:46] <Binkster> i thought voxel was a bot
#945 [03:46] <VictoryTime> god damn it
#946 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> ?? bot
#947 [03:46] <xales> imyamum: You aren't holding down the button the entire time, then
#948 [03:46] <VoxelHead> bot: Yes, I'm a bot.
#949 [03:46] <imyamum> i know but wen im trying to do it its gets to like 1 hit then goes back to no cracks in it
#950 [03:46] <Binkster> lol
#951 [03:46] <imyamum> man im so annoyed
#952 [03:46] <xales> imyamum: Then you aren't holding down the button
#953 [03:47] <lemon-rev> imyamum thas becuae you let go of the butten
#954 [03:47] <imyamum> i am trust me
#955 [03:47] <mib_mrsnh8> my game keeps saying memory full
#956 [03:47] <VictoryTime> Does anyone have a backup they can share?
#957 [03:47] <xales> Is your computer a laptop?
#958 [03:47] <xales> ??> VictoryTime tos
#959 [03:47] <VictoryTime> @imyamum - then your mouse is broken
#960 [03:47] <VoxelHead> VictoryTime: (tos) http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp - The one major rule: Do not distribute anything I've made. This includes the client and the server software for the game.
#961 [03:47] <Binkster> imyamum are you shure your constantly holding down and not letting go early
#962 [03:47] <VoxelHead> VictoryTime: (tos) This also includes modified versions of anything I've made. In order to maintain control of the project, I need all game downloads to come from a single central source. I hope you understand.
#963 [03:47] <VictoryTime> Fair enough
#964 [03:47] <imyamum> yes it is a laptop
#965 [03:47] <xales> imyamum: try getting a real mouse
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#967 [03:47] <imyamum> yes i am positive
#968 [03:47] <lemon-rev> ok so is your person on the screen imyamum still doing stuff when the block goes back to its orgional form ?
#969 [03:47] <imyamum> i have a real mouse i have tried many different mouses
#970 [03:48] <imyamum> 3 of which are new
#971 [03:48] <VictoryTime> @imyamum then stop doing it wrong
#972 [03:48] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Moar graphics plox! (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/FW7jTG
#973 [03:48] <imyamum> yer
#974 [03:48] <imyamum> it is hitting it
#975 [03:48] <Keltinray> #1 - Press down mouse button
#976 [03:48] <imyamum> constantly but it doesnt work
#977 [03:48] <Keltinray> #2 - Hold mouse button until block is gone
#978 [03:48] <lemon-rev> hm
#979 [03:48] <lemon-rev> what materials so far have you gotten on your pserons on mc
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#981 [03:49] <imyamum> i have wool from sheep cause i can attck them and 1 raw porkchop from pig but i cant mine or cut anything
#982 [03:49] <VoxelHead> r oooh... what's that do?
#983 [03:49] <Binkster> wait wait, imyamum, did you finish reinstalling
#984 [03:50] <Binkster> did u run minecraft again to redownlad everything
#985 [03:50] <imyamum> how do i do that do i click the option next to the in browser to download it to my desktop?
#986 [03:50] <Binkster> no no just run minecraft
#987 [03:50] <imyamum> ok in browser?
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#989 [03:50] <Binkster> just click your shortcut
#990 [03:50] <Shinato> http://imgur.com/HVXWn this is what im getting with LB photorealism x256. yes ive used the HD patcher, changed mcpatcher to 2048 mode, and gone into java and given it more ram to use, but that hasnt solved it either. i have 4GB ddr3 ram, quad core with a Geforce 9600. anyone have a clue WTF is going on?
#991 [03:50] <imyamum> i delted it by accident?
#992 [03:51] <lemon-rev> shinato get rid of the hd pack and youll be fine
#993 [03:51] <lemon-rev> we dont do support for mods here
#994 [03:51] <Binkster> then redownload ffrom the site
#995 [03:51] <Shinato> i am aware that if i delete itr it will be fine
#996 [03:51] <imyamum> ok and then wat
#997 [03:51] <Shinato> but that is counter productive to having it on
#998 [03:51] <Binkster> run it
#999 [03:52] <GreyVulpine> Shinato - Can you send me the link to both the pack and the patcher you used?
#1000 [03:52] <imyamum> ok i will then i will be back here if it doesnt work ok'
#1001 [03:52] <Shinato> then where the fuck do i get help for this?!
#1002 [03:52] <Shinato> sure
#1003 [03:52] <lemon-rev> shinato #bukket
#1004 [03:53] <imyamum> W0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000T THNX EVERY1 FOR UR HELP I HAVE IT WORKING AGAIN!!!!!!! :)
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#1006 [03:53] <imyamum> THNX ALOT BLINKSTER u were the most help and not getting frustrated with me...
#1007 [03:53] <binkster> no problem
#1008 [03:54] <Shinato> texture pack http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/127377-64x-128x-256x165-lb-photo-realism-165-compatible/
#1009 [03:54] <lemon-rev> shinato please no
#1010 [03:54] <imyamum> day/night...
#1011 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> lemon-rev - It's alright
#1012 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> I asked for it
#1013 [03:54] <lemon-rev> oh
#1014 [03:54] <Shinato> there is no one on bukket
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#1016 [03:54] <lemon-rev> ok
#1017 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> and bukkit doesn't deal with texture packs
#1018 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> They're SMP modding
#1019 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft wasn't able to help Shinato
#1020 [03:55] <Shinato> so basically everyone is saying "i dont know and i dont care find help elsewhere" >.<
#1021 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> Which pack did you use Shinato?
#1022 [03:56] <_303> hd patcher is a broken mess, won't help with that
#1023 [03:56] <Shinato> 256x
#1024 [03:56] <Shinato> i only want it for the 256x textures otehrwise i would use another 128x pack
#1025 [03:57] <Shinato> mcpatcher http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-529-item-fixes165-compatible-mcpatcher-hd-fix-210-01/
#1026 [03:57] <Shinato> the 2 links you requested sir.
#1027 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> Moment while I try this out
#1028 [03:58] <Shinato> no worries
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#1032 [04:09] <zippity> can anyone help with upgrading video card drivers on windows vista
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#1034 [04:14] <Wug> wugbot, mute + #minecrafthelp
#1035 [04:14] <WugBot> I will no longer send messages to #minecrafthelp.
#1036 [04:14] <Wug> grey will be happy about this
#1037 [04:14] <Wug> wugbot, forward + #minecrafthelp ##wugbot
#1038 [04:15] <xales> wugbot, forward + * Wug
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#1040 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, this computer does not like HD texture packs
#1041 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> I don't think it has enough RAM
#1042 [04:15] <xales> :(
#1043 [04:15] <Wug> :)
#1044 [04:16] <Wug> also * is unlikely to be implemented
#1045 [04:16] <Wug> at least for forwarding
#1046 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> Shinato - Doesn't look like you're the only one with those problems too, I've been reading over the last 5 pages of that texture pack thread.
#1047 [04:16] <Lantchips> hello people :) is there any way to go back to 1.5 ?
#1048 [04:16] <Wug> but if I were to do it, * would forward all pms from users and #* would forward from all channels
#1049 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> Shinato - quite a few people complain of white boxes, which is what looks like you're experiencing as well
#1050 [04:16] <Shinato> so you tried to install it?
#1051 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> Shinato - I wasn't able to, this server of mine is currently at capacity of RAM usage..
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#1053 [04:17] <Shinato> yeah lol in that pic what im holding is a dirt block
#1054 [04:17] * Wug goes to #bottestspamchan and forwards it to xales
#1054 [04:17] <xales> Lantchips: Only if you have a personal backup of it
#1055 [04:17] <Shinato> and sticks are like pieces of white cardboard lol
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#1057 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> Shinato - Really doesn't look like there's anything you can do at the moment.
#1058 [04:17] <Shinato> okay
#1059 [04:17] <GreyVulpine> as according to people on the thread
#1060 [04:17] <Lantchips> xales and if I don't ? :/ There is no way ? :/
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#1062 [04:17] <Shinato> ill just wait until everything works again after 1.6.5
#1063 [04:17] <Wug> ;join #minecraftforums
#1064 [04:18] * GreyVulpine stabs Wugbot
#1064 [04:18] <xales> Wug: Can you do that somewhere else? ._.
#1065 [04:18] <Shinato> thankyou a heap
#1066 [04:18] <xales> Lantchips: Not really, no. You could try the MCnostalgia program, but that's a bit grey
#1067 [04:18] <Shinato> im new to the whole MC modding thing so im glad its not just me fucking up
#1068 [04:18] <Shinato> and now for a deafeat cone
#1069 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> It's one of the reasons why I didn't get into it all that much
#1070 [04:18] <Wug> can I do what somewhere else?
#1071 [04:18] <Shinato> :D
#1072 [04:18] <Wug> forward something to you?
#1073 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> Way too many people having problems.
#1074 [04:19] <Shinato> yeah but have you seen that portal gun mod?
#1075 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> keeping track of all the version conflicts and updates
#1076 [04:19] <Shinato> FUCK YES is what i have to say
#1077 [04:19] * GreyVulpine nods
#1077 [04:19] <Shinato> im not gonna put ridiculous stuff in, i just want it to look purty
#1078 [04:20] <Lantchips> xales ok :) Thank you for your help :P
#1079 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> Perfectly content to go with default textures here.
#1080 [04:20] <Shinato> oh yeah. clocks at 4:20
#1081 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> Man, that texture pack is 60 megs..
#1082 [04:22] <xales> O_o
#1083 [04:23] <GreyVulpine> 256x pack
#1084 [04:23] <xales> that's still..rather large
#1085 [04:24] <GreyVulpine> Well, it is an HD texture pack, so better than Real Lifeâ„¢
#1086 [04:24] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1086 [04:24] <xales> /join #real_life
#1087 [04:24] <xales> <.<
#1088 [04:24] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#1088 [04:25] <_303> * #real_life :Cannot join channel (+j) - throttle exceeded, try again later
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#1090 [04:28] <clone1018> Why are there so many bots in here lol
#1091 [04:28] <clone1018> AuBot, GreyBot, VoxelHead
#1092 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> Greybot was mine when I first got here, then came Kealper's Aubot
#1093 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> then DG's Vox
#1094 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> Somewhere in there, xales had a bot as well
#1095 [04:29] <clone1018> y u no consolidate?
#1096 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> I no consolidate Greybot. Greybot is companion
#1097 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> Plus, nobody likes mIRC scripting
#1098 [04:29] <clone1018> I don't even know what AuBot is
#1099 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> Kealper's favorite language
#1100 [04:30] <clone1018> mIRC?
#1101 [04:30] <xales> AuBot is gold
#1102 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> Hah, no
#1103 [04:30] <xales> <.<
#1104 [04:30] <clone1018> Oh
#1105 [04:30] <clone1018> C?
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#1107 [04:30] <Shinato> would someone mind explaining this IRC thing to me? i only got it to get help with the tex pack
#1108 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> Kealper doesn't know that much C
#1109 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> Old school chat protocol
#1110 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> !wiki irc
#1111 [04:30] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
#1112 [04:30] <GreyBot> Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is a form of real-time Internet text messaging (chat) or synchronous conferencing. It is mainly designed for group communication in discussion forums, called channels, but also allows one-to-one communication via private message as well as chat and data transfer, including file sharing.
#1113 [04:30] <xales> Shinato: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircprimer.html
#1114 [04:32] <xales> That's pretty old though
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#1116 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> IRC itself was developed in what? 80s?
#1117 [04:33] <Shinato> so im an avid gamer and an internet nerd, but i dont have any scripting knowledge. or network knowledge. is using this a waste of time without that knowledge?
#1118 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> Nah
#1119 [04:34] <GreyVulpine> As long as you know how to chat, everything else comes with time
#1120 [04:34] <Shinato> cause i dont understand command lines or whatever
#1121 [04:34] <GreyVulpine> Commands in IRC are generally prefixed with /
#1122 [04:35] <Shinato> followed by?
#1123 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> Want to private message somebody? /msg person text here
#1124 [04:35] <Shinato> lol
#1125 [04:35] <Shinato> like wow
#1126 [04:35] <Shinato> only more detail
#1127 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> Want to look up somebody? /whois person
#1128 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> IRC predates WoW
#1129 [04:35] <Shinato> well yeah
#1130 [04:35] <Shinato> just,
#1131 [04:35] <_303> /raw INVITE GreyVulpine #gtfo
#1132 [04:36] * GreyVulpine stabs _303
#1132 [04:36] <_303> /me snickers
#1133 [04:36] * _303 snickers
#1133 [04:36] <Shinato> its what im used to irc was invented in 88
#1134 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> ACTIONs are done with /me
#1135 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> want to join a channel? /join
#1136 [04:36] <Shinato> so 303 i could only see that?
#1137 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> or rather, /join #channel
#1138 [04:36] <_303> Shinato: indeed
#1139 [04:37] <Shinato> cool
#1140 [04:37] <Shinato> what actions can i perform
#1141 [04:37] <Shinato> ??
#1142 [04:37] <_303> /me eats vox
#1143 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> Think of yourself in third person, then prefix it with /me
#1144 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> Rather simple
#1145 [04:38] <_303> /ctcp Shinato version
#1146 [04:38] <Shinato> ??
#1147 [04:38] <_303> -Shinato- VERSION ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0.1/20110413222027]
#1148 [04:38] <Shinato> hahahaha!! awesome
#1149 [04:38] * GreyVulpine wonders if
#1149 [04:39] * Shinato wonder what grey vulpine is wondering
#1149 [04:39] <Shinato> i get it
#1150 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> !lookup d122-109-36-214.per4.wa.optusnet.com.au
#1151 [04:39] <_303> Shinato: btw, gr<tab key>
#1152 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> !weather newcastle, new south wales
#1153 [04:39] <Shinato> _303: cool
#1154 [04:39] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Newcastle, Merewether, New South Wales (6:18p May 31 11) temp(62.3 F / 16.8 C) cond(Mostly Cloudy) wind(ESE at 7.0 mph / 11.3 km/h) hu(91%) dewpnt(60 F / 15 C) bp(30.24 in / 1023.9 hPa (Steady)) clouds((FEW) : 2000 ft / 609 m, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 6500 ft / 1981 m) vis(6.2 miles / 10.0 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#1155 [04:39] <GreyBot> Monday: Rain. High: 63 F.
#1156 [04:40] <_303> Shinato: try it
#1157 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> Not bad in South wales
#1158 [04:40] <xales> !weather 19096
#1159 [04:40] <GreyBot> xales: From Havertown, Havertown, Pennsylvania (4:30a May 31 11) temp(74.0 F / 23.3 C) cond(Clear) wind(NNE at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(89%) dewpnt(71 F / 21 C) bp(30.12 in / 1019.9 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#1160 [04:40] <GreyBot> Today: Sunny...hot with highs in the lower 90s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.
#1161 [04:40] <xales> "today" != 4AM
#1162 [04:40] <xales> silly bot
#1163 [04:40] <_303> what is the weather like in austria, vox?
#1164 [04:41] <_303> vox, are you a bot?
#1165 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> xales - that is "today's" weather
#1166 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> ?? bot
#1167 [04:41] <VoxelHead> bot: Yes, I'm a bot.
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#1170 [04:45] <FrozenMoose> okay im getting message when i try to get on multiplayer that says Internal exception: java.net.SocktTimeoutException: Read timed out
#1171 [04:46] <xales> Have you tried more than one server?
#1172 [04:46] <FrozenMoose> no ive only ever conected to one
#1173 [04:46] <xales> Try another server
#1174 [04:46] <FrozenMoose> okay. ill prolly be back.....
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#1176 [04:47] <Argh> can someone help me?
#1177 [04:47] <Argh> ANYONE?
#1178 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> In #minecrafthelp?
#1179 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes, I do believe you may be able to find help here.
#1180 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Or not
#1181 [04:49] <FrozenMoose> im getting the same message :(
#1182 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Try the server: s.nerd.nu
#1183 [04:50] <FrozenMoose> that loads fine
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#1185 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Then it's the server's your trying that are down
#1186 [04:51] <FrozenMoose> oh okay thank you for your help :)
#1187 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> er, you're.
#1188 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> dang my non-existant grammar skills today.
#1189 [04:51] <FrozenMoose> lol
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#1191 [04:54] <Awesomeness> Grey, didn't drink todays coffee yet? :P
#1192 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Haven't hooked up today's caffeine IV drip.
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#1197 [04:58] <mib_s86xjo> When I try to start the game I just get a white or black blank screen - help!
#1198 [04:58] <Awesomeness> ..lol
#1199 [04:58] <Awesomeness> I'll take this one.
#1200 [04:58] <mib_s86xjo> not lol arrragh!
#1201 [04:59] <Awesomeness> I'll pm you.
#1202 [04:59] <mib_s86xjo> ok your awesomeness!! fix it for me!
#1203 [04:59] <BLacKFiieLd> Hi, i have bought a Alpha Key 3 days ago, i have play until today and today it doesn't work <.< "You need to purchase the game to play Minecraft " <--- What is the Problem? <.<
#1204 [04:59] <Awesomeness> First, calm down, second, I messaged you.
#1205 [04:59] <Awesomeness> BlackFieeld: Alpha key? lolwhat?
#1206 [05:00] <BLacKFiieLd> I dont know <.<
#1207 [05:00] <BLacKFiieLd> xD
#1208 [05:00] <Awesomeness> You do realize it's in beta?
#1209 [05:00] <Awesomeness> Alpha ended in halloween.
#1210 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Dec 20
#1211 [05:01] <BLacKFiieLd> Yeah, but many peoples say they have alpha keys for 5€ ... many people buy this keys and they say it works, then i have bought one, it works but today it doesnt work <.<
#1212 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> BLacKFiieLd - Where are you getting the "You need to purchase the game to play minecraft" from?
#1213 [05:01] <BLacKFiieLd> Sry my english is not really good :D
#1214 [05:01] <Awesomeness> Grey: Didn't Notch say he disabled Alpha codes after a couple months in beta?
#1215 [05:01] <BLacKFiieLd> When i logg in on minecraft.net and i want to start the game "You need to purchase the game to play Minecraft " comes
#1216 [05:02] <Awesomeness> Black: You did try to enter it in the redeem gift code menu, right?
#1217 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> No...
#1218 [05:02] <BLacKFiieLd> No, i want to start minecraft
#1219 [05:02] <Awesomeness> uhh..
#1220 [05:02] <Awesomeness> It's like a code
#1221 [05:02] <Awesomeness> like 1492-13123-xXX-412
#1222 [05:02] <Awesomeness> something like that, right
#1223 [05:02] <BLacKFiieLd> 1 moment
#1224 [05:03] <Awesomeness> Well, it's basically a code, right?
#1225 [05:03] <BLacKFiieLd> f9r9-d8d2-b4m6
#1226 [05:03] <BLacKFiieLd> this was the code ...
#1227 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> yes Awesomeness
#1228 [05:03] <Awesomeness> umm..
#1229 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> BLacKFiieLd - Enter it into http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#1230 [05:03] <Awesomeness> minecraft.net -> login -> redeem gift code I think
#1231 [05:03] <Awesomeness> Yeah
#1232 [05:03] <BLacKFiieLd> The gift code is incorrect, or has already been used.
#1233 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> Then the gift code was already used
#1234 [05:04] <BLacKFiieLd> I have used it <.< but it doesnt work anymore ...
#1235 [05:04] <BLacKFiieLd> I have played it 3 days
#1236 [05:04] <BLacKFiieLd> but today i cant play ...
#1237 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> BLacKFiieLd - chances are, if you didn't get minecraft from the official site, you were scammed
#1238 [05:04] <Awesomeness> yeah, can you tell me your username?
#1239 [05:04] <Awesomeness> which you use to login?
#1240 [05:04] <BLacKFiieLd> BLacKFiieLd
#1241 [05:05] <Awesomeness> !Paid BlackFiield
#1242 [05:05] <Awesomeness> Sorry to say.
#1243 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> It is very unlikely that minecraft alpha codes were being sold for 5 euros
#1244 [05:05] <BLacKFiieLd> http://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/minecraft-trading/1188148-minecraft-alpha-keys-f-r-nur-5-psc.html
#1245 [05:05] <BLacKFiieLd> i have bought it from here
#1246 [05:05] <BLacKFiieLd> many people says
#1247 [05:05] <BLacKFiieLd> it works
#1248 [05:05] <BLacKFiieLd> ...
#1249 [05:05] <BLacKFiieLd> >.<
#1250 [05:05] * VoxelHead kicked BLacKFiieLd from #minecrafthelp (Reason: flood)
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#1252 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, there's a reason mojang gave this statement out.
#1253 [05:05] <BLacKFiieLd> -.-
#1254 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
#1255 [05:05] <Awesomeness> um.. well, there's a thing there.
#1256 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> "It has come to our attention that there are people out there selling Minecraft accounts/giftcodes with stolen credit cards and hacked PayPal accounts. As you may understand we cannot support people who purchase Minecraft from other sites than www.minecraft.net. The stolen codes will be inactivated in a given time."
#1257 [05:06] <Awesomeness> Alpha/Beta = 5 Euros
#1258 [05:06] <Awesomeness> Alpha and Beta codes are NOT worth the same amount.
#1259 [05:06] <BLacKFiieLd> fuck off <.<
#1260 [05:06] <Awesomeness> You can kinda tell.
#1261 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> Basically, you just got scammed out of 5 euros.. sorry.
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#1263 [05:07] <mib_9q335m> hello
#1264 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1265 [05:07] <mib_9q335m> my problem is an error
#1266 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> What error?
#1267 [05:07] <mib_9q335m> after a bit of playing minecraft it gives that error
#1268 [05:07] <Awesomeness> !Paid Rule1000
#1269 [05:07] <mib_9q335m> hs_err_pid4128
#1270 [05:07] <Awesomeness> (don't mind me)
#1271 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> Could you post the error at www.pastebin.com
#1272 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> give us the link to it?
#1273 [05:07] <mib_9q335m> ok
#1274 [05:08] <mib_9q335m> http://pastebin.com/d8xm37LA
#1275 [05:08] <mib_9q335m> there
#1276 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to update your intel graphics drivers?
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#1278 [05:09] <mib_9q335m> no
#1279 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Could you please give us this:
#1280 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_9q335m win/dxdiag
#1281 [05:09] <VoxelHead> mib_9q335m: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1282 [05:10] <VoxelHead> mib_9q335m: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1283 [05:10] <Awesomeness> (Win+R) = Run
#1284 [05:10] <mib_9q335m> mm
#1285 [05:10] <mib_9q335m> win+r?
#1286 [05:10] <mib_9q335m> windows button right?
#1287 [05:10] <GreyVulpine> Windows+R key
#1288 [05:10] <Awesomeness> Just press the start button, and click Run
#1289 [05:10] <Awesomeness> Yeah
#1290 [05:10] <mib_9q335m> ok
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#1292 [05:13] <mib_9q335m> http://pastebin.com/C4Z73BEw
#1293 [05:13] <mib_9q335m> there
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#1295 [05:14] <ddrei> greetings
#1296 [05:14] <ddrei> can anyone in this channel help me with minecraft techincal problems?
#1297 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> mib_9q335m - Go here: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?os=WLH&catid=6&dateid=-1&impid=-1&osl=EN&typeid=-1&formatid=-1&servicetag=&SystemID=INSP_DSKTP_D530&hidos=WLH&hidlang=en&TabIndex=&scanSupported=False&scanConsent=False
#1298 [05:14] <mib_9q335m> they can
#1299 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> Download the driver labeled:
#1300 [05:14] <mib_9q335m> ok
#1301 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> Intel G31/G33/Q33/Q35 Graphics Controller
#1302 [05:15] <mib_9q335m> ok
#1303 [05:15] <mib_9q335m> what does that do exatcly?
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#1305 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> Updates your graphics card's drivers
#1306 [05:15] <mib_9q335m> ok
#1307 [05:16] <ddrei> i played minecraft a few days ago and everything was fine. suddenly i cannot connect to my usual server and we cannot figure out why. all i get is "end of stream" on 2 of my machines and on the server we see null pointer exceptions
#1308 [05:16] <ddrei> what can we do?
#1309 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> Rename the world folder, let the server generate a new one
#1310 [05:16] <GreyVulpine> Check to see if you can log in then
#1311 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Chances are, it's a corrupt world
#1312 [05:17] <ddrei> even if a friend can connect?
#1313 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Ah, then, corrupt user profile
#1314 [05:17] <Awesomeness> One sec
#1315 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Delete the offending user's profile by going to /world/players/playername.dat
#1316 [05:17] <Awesomeness> ^that
#1317 [05:17] <mib_9q335m> I think I'm blind, because I don't see this : http://pastebin.com/C4Z73BEw
#1318 [05:17] <ddrei> on the server?
#1319 [05:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1320 [05:17] <mib_9q335m> i mena
#1321 [05:17] <mib_9q335m> mean*
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#1323 [05:18] <mib_9q335m> I don't see this :
#1324 [05:18] <mib_9q335m> Intel G31/G33/Q33/Q35 Graphics Controller
#1325 [05:18] <ddrei> will this kill all my stuff? :p
#1326 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_9q335m - Fifth up from the bottom
#1327 [05:18] <mib_9q335m> never mind i found it
#1328 [05:18] <GreyVulpine> ddrei - It will reset your player's inventory, and position data
#1329 [05:19] <mib_9q335m> Download via Dell or my browser?
#1330 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> Your browser
#1331 [05:19] <mib_9q335m> ok
#1332 [05:20] <ddrei> allright this worked. thanks! we try to get my dat file from a backup now... maybe we get lucky
#1333 [05:20] <ddrei> you guys rock :)
#1334 [05:20] * GreyVulpine nods
#1334 [05:20] <mib_9q335m> after the download finishes
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#1336 [05:21] <ddrei> have a nice day /waves
#1337 [05:21] <mib_9q335m> what do i do?
#1338 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_9q335m - Install it
#1339 [05:21] <mib_yz2eco> i have a problem
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#1341 [05:21] <mib_9q335m> ok, then minecraft will run without errors or problem?
#1342 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully, yes
#1343 [05:21] <mib_9q335m> ok
#1344 [05:21] <mib_yz2eco> is here an admin or something?
#1345 [05:21] <mib_9q335m> him
#1346 [05:21] <mib_9q335m> i think
#1347 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_yz2eco - What do you need?
#1348 [05:22] <mib_yz2eco> well
#1349 [05:22] <mib_yz2eco> i bought minecraft
#1350 [05:22] <mib_yz2eco> 15 euro's
#1351 [05:22] <Sluyter548> hi there.. i have a problem iwth minecraft.. i am curently in an upgrade loop, every time i start minecraft it starts updating and deleting all my maps?
#1352 [05:22] <mib_yz2eco> went of my account
#1353 [05:22] <mib_yz2eco> but i didnt recieve anything
#1354 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_yz2eco - How long ago?
#1355 [05:22] <mib_yz2eco> and moneybookers said an error occured.
#1356 [05:22] <mib_yz2eco> 3 or 4 days agao
#1357 [05:22] <mib_yz2eco> ago
#1358 [05:23] <mib_yz2eco> a friend said i had to wait for email
#1359 [05:23] <mib_yz2eco> but i didnt get anything
#1360 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> You can confirm that money was taken out?
#1361 [05:23] <mib_yz2eco> screens
#1362 [05:23] <mib_yz2eco> and copied the transfer thing
#1363 [05:23] <mib_9q335m> Omg it's 5:22am and I'm still awake, gotta get some sleep soon.
#1364 [05:23] <Awesomeness> Grey Vulpine.. I think I need a bit of help here.
#1365 [05:23] <Awesomeness> can I pm you for a sec?
#1366 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> ?
#1367 [05:24] <mib_yz2eco> grey
#1368 [05:24] <mib_yz2eco> i can
#1369 [05:24] <mib_yz2eco> confirm
#1370 [05:24] <mib_yz2eco> i have transaction code
#1371 [05:24] <mib_yz2eco> i mean
#1372 [05:24] <mib_yz2eco> everything
#1373 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_yz2eco - Alright, copy all of that, send it to payment@mojang.com
#1374 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> They'll get you squared away.
#1375 [05:25] <mib_yz2eco> as in a email?
#1376 [05:25] <mib_9q335m> Is my grammar good?
#1377 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1378 [05:25] <mib_yz2eco> okk
#1379 [05:25] <mib_yz2eco> thank you
#1380 [05:25] <mib_yz2eco> :)
#1381 [05:26] <mib_9q335m> woow
#1382 [05:26] <mib_9q335m> it changed alot
#1383 [05:26] <mib_9q335m> its bigger
#1384 [05:27] <mib_9q335m> Grey, you ever went to Puerto Rico?
#1385 [05:27] <mib_9q335m> oh now its fixed
#1386 [05:27] <mib_9q335m> ok hopefully it will work
#1387 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> You can change the resolution of your screen by going to your desktop, right clicking on it, and going to properties
#1388 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> then go to the settings tab, and look for "Screen resolution", you can move the slider bar to the right
#1389 [05:28] <mib_9q335m> GreyVulpine thanks for the help, really appreciated!
#1390 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#1391 [05:28] <mib_9q335m> Maybe see you in a bit.
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#1394 [05:32] <Sluyter548> hi there.. i have a problem iwth minecraft.. i am curently in an upgrade loop, every time i start minecraft it starts updating and deleting all my maps?
#1395 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Sluyter548 - What operating system are you on?
#1396 [05:33] <Sluyter548> windows 7
#1397 [05:33] <Sluyter548> and im already running the game as aministrator
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#1399 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to get to your %appdata%/.minecraft folder?
#1400 [05:33] <Sluyter548> yes
#1401 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> Could you go there, move the 'saves' folder out, delete everything inside, then relaunch minecraft
#1402 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> It'll download new, fresh, updated files for minecraft, then you can move the saves folder back in
#1403 [05:34] <Sluyter548> so, move the map saves (its empty) out and delete the rest?
#1404 [05:34] <Sluyter548> my saves have been deleted, due to tis bug
#1405 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> Oh, if it's empty, there's no saves to save now.. is there.
#1406 [05:35] <bob1> how do i resolve the following prob- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#1407 [05:35] <Sluyter548> what do you mean?
#1408 [05:35] <Sluyter548> ow that way xD
#1409 [05:35] <Sluyter548> so jsut delete the .minecraft folder?
#1410 [05:35] <lemon-rev> bob1 update your graphics driver
#1411 [05:35] <GreyVulpine> Sluyter548 - Just delete the .minecraft folder
#1412 [05:35] <Sluyter548> ok
#1413 [05:36] <bob1> how do you do that?
#1414 [05:36] <lemon-rev> ??> bob1 windows/directx
#1415 [05:36] <lemon-rev> ??> bob1 windows/daig
#1416 [05:36] <lemon-rev> ??> bob1 windows/dxaig
#1417 [05:36] <lemon-rev> lol
#1418 [05:36] <lemon-rev> ok
#1419 [05:36] <Sluyter548> it downlaoded al the things again. but i have to do this each day and can't keep my saves?
#1420 [05:36] <_303> dxdiag
#1421 [05:36] <_303> lemon-rev: ##voxelhead
#1422 [05:36] <lemon-rev> yea f'ing it up
#1423 [05:37] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :??> bob1 windows/dxdiag
#1424 [05:37] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :
ACTION rolls eyes

#1425 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> Sluyter548 - Try making a new world, closing minecraft and see if it updates again
#1426 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> Sluyter548 - It shouldn't
#1427 [05:37] <_303> ??> lemon-rev win/dxdiag
#1428 [05:37] <lemon-rev> ??> bob1 win/dxdiag
#1429 [05:37] <VoxelHead> lemon-rev: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
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#1431 [05:37] <VoxelHead> lemon-rev: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1432 [05:37] <lemon-rev> yay
#1433 [05:38] <Sluyter548> that's the problem.. it doesnt update right now, but in a few hours it will again :(
#1434 [05:38] <Sluyter548> like the files get corrupted every time?
#1435 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> Sluyter548 - If it does, come back here. Once you update, you shouldn't need to update again until the next patch
#1436 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> Sluyter548 - Do you "Force update" through the launcher's options menu?
#1437 [05:39] <Sluyter548> i will be online this evening.. if it then updates i will come back
#1438 [05:39] <Sluyter548> and no, i dont use the force update mode
#1439 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> Alright, then there should be no reason for it to update again..
#1440 [05:39] <bob1> how do you fix the problem Bad video card drivers!
#1441 [05:39] <Sluyter548> we'll see this evening
#1442 [05:39] * GreyVulpine nods
#1442 [05:39] <Sluyter548> i have to go to school now, so goodbye everyone :)
#1443 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> bob1 - Can you follow lemon's instructions and give us your dxdiag
#1444 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> It'll allow us to tell you what video card you have, and thus, how to update them
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#1447 [05:49] <imyamum> hey can someone help me i downloaded minecraft and i was playing it for a couple of minutes and then it came up with memory full how do i fix that?
#1448 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> Just close it and relaunch minecraft
#1449 [05:50] <lemon-rev> imyamum how much memory does your computer have
#1450 [05:50] <imyamum> idk how do i check that?
#1451 [05:50] <imyamum> um i did that but it still said memory full
#1452 [05:51] <imyamum> is that just closing the shortcut and then reopening the shortcut?
#1453 [05:51] <GreyVulpine> Um, sure?
#1454 [05:51] <imyamum> ok and does offline change anything there?
#1455 [05:51] <lemon-rev> imyamum do you know how to get to your control pannel and system ?
#1456 [05:52] <imyamum> um yes
#1457 [05:52] <imyamum> i know how to get to the control panel
#1458 [05:52] <lemon-rev> ok
#1459 [05:52] <lemon-rev> your running xp correct ?
#1460 [05:53] <imyamum> correct meaning?
#1461 [05:53] <lemon-rev> the os
#1462 [05:53] <lemon-rev> operating system
#1463 [05:54] <lemon-rev> the windows your are running
#1464 [05:54] <lemon-rev> bah
#1465 [05:54] <lemon-rev> ok
#1466 [05:54] <lemon-rev> get to the control pannel
#1467 [05:54] <lemon-rev> see if you can find a computer icon that says system on it
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#1469 [05:55] <imyamum> ok doing now
#1470 [05:55] <imyamum> ok found system and clicked on it now wat?
#1471 [05:55] <lemon-rev> are you on the general tab ?
#1472 [05:56] <imyamum> yes now wat?
#1473 [05:56] <lemon-rev> it should tell you all your system
#1474 [05:56] <lemon-rev> should telly ou what version of windows your running
#1475 [05:56] <lemon-rev> then under or near the cpu 's you might have on that computer
#1476 [05:56] <lemon-rev> there should be gb of RAM <
#1477 [05:56] <lemon-rev> what is listed there
#1478 [05:56] <imyamum> ok 1 sec
#1479 [05:57] <imyamum> i have windows xp professional 2002
#1480 [05:57] <lemon-rev> ok np
#1481 [05:57] <imyamum> thats wat general says plus some other stuff
#1482 [05:57] <lemon-rev> thats what im trying to get at
#1483 [05:57] <lemon-rev> under windows pro 2002
#1484 [05:57] <imyamum> it alos says 1.86gh'z and 1gb ram
#1485 [05:57] <lemon-rev> h
#1486 [05:57] <lemon-rev> ,
#1487 [05:57] <lemon-rev> grey 1 gig ram
#1488 [05:58] <lemon-rev> thats how much ram you got
#1489 [05:58] <imyamum> ok
#1490 [05:58] <imyamum> so....
#1491 [05:58] <lemon-rev> you might need to get another gig to run mc with out memory overflow stuff
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#1493 [05:58] <mib_t4voyc> GreyVulpine
#1494 [05:59] <imyamum> oh ok i cant do that so wat else can i do?
#1495 [05:59] <lemon-rev> imyamum why cant you get another bit of ram added to your computer ?
#1496 [05:59] <mib_t4voyc> I came back to tell you, that my minecraft hasn't crash yet, so, Thanks
#1497 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Ah, good to hear.
#1498 [05:59] <mib_t4voyc> A lot!
#1499 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Thanks.
#1500 [05:59] <mib_t4voyc> You made me happy today!
#1501 [05:59] <mib_t4voyc> :D
#1502 [05:59] <imyamum> idk how to do that?
#1503 [06:00] <mib_t4voyc> So have a nice one, take care.
#1504 [06:00] <lemon-rev> imyamum if you press alt + ctrl + del < keys togeather you get a taskmanager < look over eatch bit thats running on your pc, and see if theres any thing you can stop to try and get more memory before running mc again
#1505 [06:00] <imyamum> ok
#1506 [06:01] <imyamum> will it tell me how much memory each thing is using?
#1507 [06:01] <lemon-rev> imyamum it takes some care but if you take off side of case you can see the motherboard and also the RAM < ie sticks green with little black things attached to it,
#1508 [06:01] <imyamum> yer so wat else?
#1509 [06:02] <lemon-rev> when your computer is off, you can carefully take one of those out, carefully look over what it might be say ddr RAM or ddr2 ram and buy another gig from whereever
#1510 [06:02] <imyamum> ok
#1511 [06:02] <lemon-rev> then place it back with the little white things holding it again, then you put it back and put the side back on, and buy your ram then yea untill then wait it out
#1512 [06:03] <imyamum> ok thnx for ur help cya
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#1517 [06:16] <Babalski> hi
#1518 [06:17] <Babalski> i was hoping some guys here could help with minecraft
#1519 [06:17] <Babalski> :)
#1520 [06:17] <Babalski> anyone here?
#1521 [06:18] <Awesomeness> Sure
#1522 [06:18] <Awesomeness> What's up
#1523 [06:19] <Babalski> hi
#1524 [06:19] <Awesomeness> Hey
#1525 [06:19] <Babalski> ueahm yeah
#1526 [06:19] <Babalski> my minecraft crashed after login
#1527 [06:19] <Babalski> or it keeps doing so
#1528 [06:19] <Babalski> so i cannot connect to servers
#1529 [06:19] <Awesomeness> I'll pm you, that way it will be easier.
#1530 [06:19] <Babalski> ok
#1531 [06:19] <Babalski> ty
#1532 [06:19] <Awesomeness> !Paid Babalski
#1533 [06:22] <selsper> Anybody know a good UK minecraft host?
#1534 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> Multiplay's good
#1535 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> They're a big name in game hosting services, and they're based in the UK/europe
#1536 [06:38] <Awesomeness> GreyVulpine
#1537 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#1538 [06:39] <Awesomeness> I found a minecrafthack.exe file in soemones folder, when I was helping them with Minecraft error
#1539 [06:39] <Awesomeness> should I continue to help
#1540 [06:39] <Awesomeness> They have bought the game now.
#1541 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> It's really up to you
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#1543 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> if they bought the game, then great.
#1544 [06:39] <Awesomeness> Would you?
#1545 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> My personal policy is that one they buy the game, they have earned the privilege to look for support
#1546 [06:41] <Awesomeness> Well, he has alot of torrented files in his downloads folder. >.>
#1547 [06:41] <Awesomeness> I'll see.
#1548 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> If people come here for help, and we find that that their hosts file was changed due to them "trying out" minecraft, we'll help them if they bought the game
#1549 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> If not, we have no obligation to.
#1550 [06:42] <Awesomeness> Alrighty
#1551 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> Again, it's really up to you, and what you feel comfortable with.
#1552 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> Nobody's making you do this, and you shouldn't feel forced to help others
#1553 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> For some of us here, once it starts feeling like a job, and less fun, is when it's time to call it a break. Walk away, grab a breather... remember to play minecraft.
#1554 [06:45] <Sqozza> Play Minecraft? :|
#1555 [06:45] <Sqozza> WHO DOES THAT
#1556 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> What do you think I do when I'm helping others around here?
#1557 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> I've got minecraft pulled up >.>
#1558 [06:46] <Awesomeness> GV
#1559 [06:46] <Awesomeness> You got steam?
#1560 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> <-----
#1561 [06:49] <Awesomeness> Can I add you?
#1562 [06:49] * GreyVulpine shrugs, "If you want"
#1562 [06:49] <Awesomeness> yay. :D
#1563 [06:49] <Awesomeness> btw
#1564 [06:49] <Awesomeness> the guy I helped
#1565 [06:49] <Awesomeness> I can't help him.
#1566 [06:49] <Awesomeness> My guess is that his minecraftcrack
#1567 [06:50] <Awesomeness> when he cracked it before, it left some code behind
#1568 [06:50] <Awesomeness> now you need to clean your registry of that code
#1569 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> What was the symptom?
#1570 [06:50] <Awesomeness> otherwise it wont connect
#1571 [06:50] <Awesomeness> When he tried to enter any multi server his minecraft just closed.
#1572 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Oi..
#1573 [06:50] <Awesomeness> crackz are badz for youz.
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#1575 [06:51] <Awesomeness> Anyway
#1576 [06:51] <Awesomeness> Grey, I added you.
#1577 [06:52] <Awesomeness> And I see you have Terraria on your wishlist, when you get it, join my server! :D\
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#1579 [06:52] <Awesomeness> Well, feel free to join anyway. >.>
#1580 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> Don't know.. Jeb said earlier that terraria was all grinding
#1581 [06:53] <Awesomeness> What do you mean?
#1582 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Jeb == Jeb from Mojang
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#1584 [06:53] <Bennit> Hi
#1585 [06:53] <Awesomeness> I know who's Jeb
#1586 [06:53] <Awesomeness> but I mean what he means by grinding?
#1587 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> grinding, just spending time to get levels and/or items?
#1588 [06:53] <Bennit> I don't seem to find where to report bugs, besides perhaps here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#1589 [06:53] <Awesomeness> To get rare drops?
#1590 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Bennit - That is indeed the only location to report bugs
#1591 [06:54] <Awesomeness> Well, if you can surive, then sure I suppose.
#1592 [06:54] <Awesomeness> For example; bone serpants do alot of damage if oyu don't have armor.
#1593 [06:54] <Awesomeness> And you run out of potions quite quickly, so grinding isn't THAT simple
#1594 [06:54] <Awesomeness> You'll see when you get it.
#1595 [06:54] <Awesomeness> It's really fun tho, Sqozza approves
#1596 [06:54] <Awesomeness> Right Sqozza?
#1597 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> Just heard it was more dying, less creativity
#1598 [06:55] <Awesomeness> It's an adventure type game.
#1599 [06:55] <Awesomeness> You can use 1 character for all worlds, and multiplayer
#1600 [06:55] <Awesomeness> Sure you can hack, but that's on your morals.
#1601 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> See, you're not selling the game for me :)
#1602 [06:56] <Awesomeness> What do you mean?
#1603 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> You're making me less and less inclined to buy it
#1604 [06:56] <Awesomeness> Why?
#1605 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Hacks for the game?
#1606 [06:56] <Awesomeness> INVEditors
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#1608 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#1609 [06:57] <Awesomeness> That's not Redigits fault.
#1610 [06:57] <Awesomeness> Anyway
#1611 [06:57] <Awesomeness> My server is clean of them
#1612 [06:57] <Awesomeness> So. :3
#1613 [06:57] <FlamingToast> hello
#1614 [06:57] <Awesomeness> Hello Toast!
#1615 [06:57] <FlamingToast> (:
#1616 [06:57] <FlamingToast> i've got an account related problem
#1617 [06:57] <FlamingToast> i think it is anyway
#1618 [06:57] <Awesomeness> Shoot
#1619 [06:58] <FlamingToast> well...
#1620 [06:58] <FlamingToast> when i use the new client to try and log in to minecraft
#1621 [06:58] <FlamingToast> i receive the "too many failed logins" error
#1622 [06:58] <Awesomeness> What's your minecraft username
#1623 [06:58] <FlamingToast> however i can login fine using the old client and the website
#1624 [06:58] <FlamingToast> FlamingToast
#1625 [06:58] <Awesomeness> !Paid FlamingToast
#1626 [06:58] <Awesomeness> Interesting
#1627 [06:58] <Awesomeness> one second
#1628 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> That usually happens when you try to log in too many times, or the login server is overloaded
#1629 [06:59] <Awesomeness> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1630 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Neither of which you can do anything about
#1631 [06:59] <Awesomeness> Try that one
#1632 [06:59] <Awesomeness> And yeah, it maybe just minecraft.net
#1633 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Just be patient, and try again later
#1634 [06:59] <FlamingToast> the thing is that it's been like this for days now
#1635 [06:59] <FlamingToast> nope no joy
#1636 [06:59] <FlamingToast> i don't understand
#1637 [07:00] <FlamingToast> cause i left it one night (only logged in once)
#1638 [07:00] <FlamingToast> came back in the morning and was presented with that error
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#1640 [07:00] <FlamingToast> any ideas?
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#1643 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> Don't try to log in for a day, then come back?
#1644 [07:01] <FlamingToast> at all?
#1645 [07:01] <FlamingToast> or just using the new client?
#1646 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> There's really no solution for it, that I'm aware of
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#1650 [07:02] <Awesomeness> Yea, try that.
#1651 [07:02] <FlamingToast> someone said it's similar to a hacking problem people had?
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#1653 [07:02] <mib_nhpxgb> My minecraft freezes when I log in :((( Something to do with java
#1654 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> It can be a cause, but more often than not, it's mojang's database being overloaded
#1655 [07:02] <FlamingToast> okay
#1656 [07:02] <FlamingToast> thanks guys, will report back tomorrow if no luck
#1657 [07:03] <Hellfia> grrr r
#1658 [07:03] <Hellfia> i cant join allthe channels
#1659 [07:03] <Hellfia> lol
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#1662 [07:07] <Awesomeness> I need a hug. >:(
#1663 [07:07] <Enjoi> hey when I log in the game it comes up with the update and then freezes on a white screen and says javaw.exe has encounter a problems and needs to be closed and so I cant play.... Please help
#1664 [07:08] <Awesomeness> First do this: http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#1665 [07:08] <Awesomeness> Then download and install this: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
#1666 [07:09] <Enjoi> ok uninstalling now
#1667 [07:09] * Sqozza hugs Awesomeness
#1667 [07:10] <Awesomeness> yaaaay! :D
#1668 [07:10] * Awesomeness is happier now
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#1670 [07:12] <huddler> uninstalled but need the link for rinstalling plz
#1671 [07:12] <Awesomeness> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
#1672 [07:12] <huddler> awsomeness
#1673 [07:12] <Awesomeness> or
#1674 [07:12] <Awesomeness> http://www.java.com/inc/BrowserRedirect1.jsp?locale=en
#1675 [07:14] <huddler> Done
#1676 [07:14] <Awesomeness> Try entering minecraft now.
#1677 [07:15] <huddler> Black screen
#1678 [07:15] <Awesomeness> Okay, but no error?
#1679 [07:16] <huddler> If I open it up with minecraft.exe it says a error thing with java but its just a black screen now
#1680 [07:16] <Awesomeness> Okay
#1681 [07:16] <Awesomeness> Before you enter minecraft
#1682 [07:16] <Awesomeness> In options
#1683 [07:16] <Awesomeness> click force update
#1684 [07:16] <Awesomeness> and then click login
#1685 [07:17] <huddler> javaw.exe has encounter a problem
#1686 [07:17] <huddler> error report?
#1687 [07:18] <Awesomeness> pastebin
#1688 [07:18] <Awesomeness> it please
#1689 [07:19] <huddler> I cant copy and paste the error report
#1690 [07:20] <Awesomeness> Why?
#1691 [07:20] <huddler> I highlight it and i right click but nothing will come up cut paste ect
#1692 [07:21] <Awesomeness> CTRL C
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#1694 [07:22] <huddler> AppName: javaw.exe AppVer: 6.0.250.6 ModName: nvoglnt.dll
#1695 [07:22] <Phoenix> Hi
#1696 [07:22] <huddler> Offset: 0086f467
#1697 [07:22] <Awesomeness> dude
#1698 [07:22] <Awesomeness> pastebin.com
#1699 [07:22] <Awesomeness> And paste everything
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#1701 [07:23] <Awesomeness> also
#1702 [07:23] <Awesomeness> can you give me your dxdiag please?
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#1704 [07:23] <Awesomeness> ??> huddler
#1705 [07:24] <Awesomeness> ??> huddler dxdiag
#1706 [07:24] <huddler> I'm sorry i dont understand
#1707 [07:24] <Awesomeness> ?
#1708 [07:24] <lemon-rev> awe
#1709 [07:24] <huddler> Ok I'll find another way.....
#1710 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> it's win/dxdiag
#1711 [07:24] <lemon-rev> win/dxdiag
#1712 [07:24] <lemon-rev> lol
#1713 [07:24] <lemon-rev> :P
#1714 [07:24] <huddler> bye
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#1716 [07:24] <lemon-rev> buddler you want help ?
#1717 [07:25] <Awesomeness> Did I do something wrong?
#1718 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> Awesomeness - You wanted, ?? win/dxidag
#1719 [07:25] <lemon-rev> no, just someone not wanting to hang around for help
#1720 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> er, dxdiag
#1721 [07:26] <Awesomeness> I'm gonna take a break
#1722 [07:26] <Phoenix> hmmm, what was that server checking command again? sorry :)
#1723 [07:26] <_303> !check
#1724 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> It's !check
#1725 [07:26] <Phoenix> Thanks
#1726 [07:26] <Phoenix> !check
#1727 [07:26] <Awesomeness> !check Xales
#1728 [07:26] <Awesomeness> YUNOWORK
#1729 [07:26] <Phoenix> *facepalm*
#1730 [07:26] <Phoenix> might wanna be running it...
#1731 [07:26] <Awesomeness> What?
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#1733 [07:27] <Awesomeness> !check knyrf
#1734 [07:29] <_303> Awesomeness: it expects and ip
#1735 [07:29] <_303> an*
#1736 [07:29] <Awesomeness> Not sure if I wanna put it out here.
#1737 [07:29] <Awesomeness> what does !check do anyway
#1738 [07:29] <_303> so /msg AuBot !check theip
#1739 [07:29] <Phoenix> Really?
#1740 [07:29] <_303> everyone can see your IP, irc noob
#1741 [07:29] <Phoenix> 46.109.112.134 is your ip.
#1742 [07:29] <Phoenix> =P
#1743 [07:30] <Awesomeness> MY ip
#1744 [07:30] <Awesomeness> And Xales is hiddens
#1745 [07:30] <_303> oh?
#1746 [07:30] <Phoenix> !check
#1747 [07:30] <Phoenix> Sweet!
#1748 [07:30] <Awesomeness> Btw _303
#1749 [07:30] <Awesomeness> Without the noob, kthnx
#1750 [07:30] <_303> xales's is inafire.com
#1751 [07:31] <Phoenix> Awesome. I haven't been able to figure out the port fowarding for ages. =D
#1752 [07:31] <Awesomeness> That's not a IP
#1753 [07:31] <Awesomeness> Phoenix: *sigh*
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#1755 [07:31] <_303> inafire.com == 50.21.183.176
#1756 [07:31] <Phoenix> :p
#1757 [07:31] <Phoenix> cmd > ping inafire.com
#1758 [07:31] <Awesomeness> Not his IP.
#1759 [07:31] <GreyVulpine> You have much to learn young padawan
#1760 [07:31] <Awesomeness> That's his servers
#1761 [07:32] <Lunamon> !check
#1762 [07:32] <Awesomeness> Btw Grey: I'm the young padawan? ...
#1763 [07:32] <Lunamon> thought so
#1764 [07:32] <Phoenix> Nope, that'd be meh.
#1765 [07:32] <Lunamon> !check 10.0.0.1
#1766 [07:32] <Lunamon> !check 127.0.0.1
#1767 [07:32] <Phoenix> *facepalms*
#1768 [07:32] <Lunamon> ;D
#1769 [07:33] <Phoenix> I'm so glad that you actually know that. :P
#1770 [07:33] <Phoenix> Soooo many people saying, 'my server ish 127.0.0.1 joinn itt!!!!'
#1771 [07:34] <Awesomeness> Phoenix, seriously, you don't know how to even portforward.
#1772 [07:34] <Awesomeness> Stop insulting people.
#1773 [07:34] <Phoenix> Sorry, that wasn't meant as an insult.
#1774 [07:34] <GreyVulpine> Easy there..
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#1776 [07:36] <Phoenix> kthxbai!
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#1779 [07:39] <Awesomeness> Hey Grey
#1780 [07:39] <Awesomeness> What do you think of my signature?
#1781 [07:39] <Awesomeness> http://bit.ly/kcIuvK
#1782 [07:39] <Awesomeness> I made it quite recently.
#1783 [07:40] <GreyVulpine> Looks alright?
#1784 [07:40] <Awesomeness> ...
#1785 [07:40] <Awesomeness> What about this one then; http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l524/doublecolorsalltheway/Portal2Siggie.png?t=1306842046
#1786 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> Not bad.
#1787 [07:44] <Awesomeness> This one? http://i55.tinypic.com/df7g0.jpg
#1788 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> Bit small on the text, but otherwise alright.
#1789 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> Not a naruto fan myself.
#1790 [07:45] <Awesomeness> The last one was my friends
#1791 [07:45] <Awesomeness> Anyway, can you show me a signature you really like?
#1792 [07:47] <Awesomeness> Grey?
#1793 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> Not at the moment..
#1794 [07:47] <Awesomeness> Oh, okay, can you show me one when you can?
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#1797 [07:54] <EuphoricMatt> sup guys
#1798 [07:55] <EuphoricMatt> have a bit of a problem, wondering if you can help
#1799 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1800 [07:55] <EuphoricMatt> Minecraft freezing my computer
#1801 [07:56] <EuphoricMatt> it has started happening recently
#1802 [07:56] <EuphoricMatt> I have a decent spec computer and have been playing for a long time with no problems
#1803 [07:57] <EuphoricMatt> however ever since the last two updates after about 15 mins gameplay it freezes my entire pc and I have to power off
#1804 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that's not good.
#1805 [07:57] <EuphoricMatt> nope, don't particularly want to hard reset anymore :/
#1806 [07:58] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#1807 [07:58] <EuphoricMatt> Windows 7 64 bit
#1808 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> Have you made sure that you're current on all your OS updates?
#1809 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> Does it crash like this on any other applications or games?
#1810 [08:00] <Sqozza> Awesomeness: http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/28256_131187150254494_100000896304106_144012_2307433_n.jpg
#1811 [08:00] <EuphoricMatt> Doesn't seem to no
#1812 [08:00] <EuphoricMatt> I mean counter strike doesn't cause any issues
#1813 [08:00] <Awesomeness> Sqozza: so i herd u liek brushez?
#1814 [08:00] <EuphoricMatt> nor BF2
#1815 [08:00] <EuphoricMatt> I will check for updates hang on
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#1818 [08:01] <Sqozza> Awesomeness: Try "copypastealbumart"
#1819 [08:01] <Sqozza> :P
#1820 [08:01] <Awesomeness> lol
#1821 [08:01] <EuphoricMatt> nope doesn't seem like it apart from a display driver update, worth installing to see?
#1822 [08:01] <Awesomeness> Sqozza: you like my signatures?
#1823 [08:02] <Sqozza> Awesomeness: Yeah
#1824 [08:02] <Awesomeness> Sqozza: Thanks! :D
#1825 [08:02] <Sqozza> This album, specifically
#1826 [08:02] <Awesomeness> I can make you one, if you want.
#1827 [08:02] <Sqozza> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuknCTmwtG4
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#1829 [08:04] <Awesomeness> Sqozza?
#1830 [08:05] <Awesomeness> Sqozza: I can make you a signature, if you'd like.
#1831 [08:05] <Sqozza> Nah, I don't use forums
#1832 [08:05] <Awesomeness> >:(
#1833 [08:05] <Sqozza> Been meaning to respond, had to deal with an idiot
#1834 [08:05] <Vivek> how can i get rid of the open GL acceleration error?
#1835 [08:05] <Sqozza> It ended like so
#1836 [08:05] <Sqozza> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuknCTmwtG4
#1837 [08:05] <Sqozza> err
#1838 [08:05] <Sqozza> fail paste
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#1840 [08:07] <sprocket> ok, i am vivek too but it has signed me in twice :S, so yeah about the open gl acceleration error please
#1841 [08:08] <sprocket> anybody :(
#1842 [08:08] <sprocket> ?? open gl
#1843 [08:09] <sprocket> index
#1844 [08:10] <sprocket> is anybody even here?
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#1847 [08:29] <Vivek> seriously, is nobody here!
#1848 [08:29] <Awesomeness> ?
#1849 [08:30] <Vivek> i asked a question about 20 minutes ago
#1850 [08:30] <Vivek> well, is there a way to get rid of the open gl acceleration error?
#1851 [08:31] <Awesomeness> I'm too tired to help.
#1852 [08:31] <Awesomeness> D: sorry
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#1854 [08:31] <mib_ocbsxg> hi
#1855 [08:31] <Vivek> ok, could u tell me later then?
#1856 [08:31] <Awesomeness> I suppose.
#1857 [08:31] <Awesomeness> Try tomorrow
#1858 [08:31] <Vivek> yay that'll do :D
#1859 [08:32] <Vivek> i wont be able to try it out until later anyway
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#1861 [08:32] <Vivek> or i might wait for someone else to come on
#1862 [08:32] <mib_ocbsxg> hello
#1863 [08:33] <Vivek> what is your problem mib_ocbsxg?
#1864 [08:33] <mib_ocbsxg> it says that it needs open gl
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#1867 [08:34] <Tonyxis> can someone here help me?
#1868 [08:34] <Tonyxis> anybody?
#1869 [08:34] <Vivek> lol i think you have the same problem as me mib_ocbsxg
#1870 [08:34] <Vivek> what tonyxis
#1871 [08:35] <Tonyxis> i got problems with my multiplayer server since the latest few updates
#1872 [08:35] <mib_ocbsxg> well how do i fix it
#1873 [08:35] <MINECRAFTFTW> hey
#1874 [08:35] <Tonyxis> either the world doesnt load and/or when it actually has, we get IMMENSE lags
#1875 [08:35] <MINECRAFTFTW> guys?
#1876 [08:35] <Tonyxis> including me
#1877 [08:35] <Tonyxis> so how do i fix that?
#1878 [08:35] <MINECRAFTFTW> why can't I play multiplayer on my Minecraft?
#1879 [08:35] <Vivek> i have heard that some people are getting problems with the new updates
#1880 [08:36] <Tonyxis> my friends cant do anything and for me everything works but when i place blocks they are invisible + if i remove then the skin is still there but i can walk through it
#1881 [08:36] <MINECRAFTFTW> anytime I enter an IP (correctly!) it cant connect....
#1882 [08:36] <Tonyxis> solution : buy the game
#1883 [08:36] <Tonyxis> :D
#1884 [08:37] <MINECRAFTFTW> :p
#1885 [08:37] <Vivek> lol are you on the free version?
#1886 [08:37] <Vivek> (illegal)
#1887 [08:37] <Tonyxis> im not vivek
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#1889 [08:37] <MINECRAFTFTW> i dunno
#1890 [08:37] <Tonyxis> i bought the game to be able to play online and the shitty thing doesnt fkin work
#1891 [08:37] <Vivek> minecraftftw, did you pay for it?
#1892 [08:37] <Tonyxis> i hate it, i try to play with mah friends and it just didnt work
#1893 [08:38] <MINECRAFTFTW> my cousin put it in his usb but i dunno if what he put there was full or free version
#1894 [08:38] <Tonyxis> lol
#1895 [08:38] <MINECRAFTFTW> lol
#1896 [08:38] <Tonyxis> DID YOU BUY IT OR NOT
#1897 [08:38] <MINECRAFTFTW> XD
#1898 [08:38] <Vivek> well, im not that great with the minecraft errors, i only know a few things, would you mind waiting until one of the actuall helper people comes along :/
#1899 [08:38] <MINECRAFTFTW> like i said.... my..
#1900 [08:38] <Tonyxis> did you use your credit card with the number [removed] to buy the game?
#1901 [08:38] <MINECRAFTFTW> *sigh*
#1902 [08:38] <MINECRAFTFTW> oh..
#1903 [08:38] <Tonyxis> minecraftftw let me explain this a moment
#1904 [08:38] <MINECRAFTFTW> oops...
#1905 [08:38] <Tonyxis> theres a free (illegal) version of the game
#1906 [08:39] <GreyVulpine> If it was on a USB drive, most likely it's not a legal copy
#1907 [08:39] <MINECRAFTFTW> oh
#1908 [08:39] <MINECRAFTFTW> ok
#1909 [08:39] <MINECRAFTFTW> :S
#1910 [08:39] <Tonyxis> and the bought game which you can ONLY achieve by using a premium account (the way you buy minecraft)
#1911 [08:39] <MINECRAFTFTW> darn
#1912 [08:39] <Vivek> phew... grey vulpine is here :D
#1913 [08:39] <GreyVulpine> Uh oh
#1914 [08:40] <Awesomeness> Detecting pirates...
#1915 [08:40] <MINECRAFTFTW> well at least it only costs a few Pesos here in the philippines
#1916 [08:40] <Awesomeness> adding to awesomeness.inafire.com/BANNED
#1917 [08:40] <MINECRAFTFTW> :D
#1918 [08:40] <Tonyxis> it doesnt really cost much anywhere
#1919 [08:40] <MINECRAFTFTW> yeah
#1920 [08:40] <MINECRAFTFTW> ikr
#1921 [08:40] <Tonyxis> AND NOW UP TO MY PROBLEM LADS
#1922 [08:40] <MINECRAFTFTW> its just like 1200 here
#1923 [08:40] <Sqozza> 42
#1924 [08:41] <GreyVulpine> What is your problem Tonyxis?
#1925 [08:41] <Vivek> £15
#1926 [08:41] <MINECRAFTFTW> thats not even a lot yet
#1927 [08:41] <Awesomeness> adding complete.
#1928 [08:41] <Vivek> lol he just left
#1929 [08:41] <GreyVulpine> Alright then
#1930 [08:41] <MINECRAFTFTW> :Y
#1931 [08:41] <MINECRAFTFTW> *nom nom nom* :D
#1932 [08:41] <MINECRAFTFTW> k guys
#1933 [08:41] <Vivek> how can i get rid of the opengl error message?
#1934 [08:42] <MINECRAFTFTW> gonna go play cod 4 OR minecraft
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#1936 [08:42] <MINECRAFTFTW> probably cod 4
#1937 [08:42] <Vivek> are they legal :P
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#1939 [08:42] <MINECRAFTFTW> :P
#1940 [08:42] <GreyVulpine> If you're going to continue enjoying minecraft, would you consider buying the game..
#1941 [08:42] <MINECRAFTFTW> yes but..
#1942 [08:42] <Awesomeness> But?
#1943 [08:43] <MINECRAFTFTW> not now
#1944 [08:43] <MINECRAFTFTW> ima enjoy the free version for now
#1945 [08:43] <MINECRAFTFTW> :P
#1946 [08:43] <MINECRAFTFTW> bye!
#1947 [08:43] <Awesomeness> Yep, I'm not taking him off awesomeness.inafire.com/BANNED
#1948 [08:45] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Minecraft Beta 1.6.6 (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/m5HTAa
#1949 [08:46] <Awesomeness> * Removed Herobrine
#1950 [08:46] <Awesomeness> say what.
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#1954 [08:50] <Gurkenglas> http://notch.tumblr.com/ wtf @Herobrine?
#1955 [08:50] * mib_k9obwd [mib_k9obwd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1956 [08:51] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Minecraft Beta 1.6.6 (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/mGv9tt
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#1958 [08:52] <Gurkenglas> Yay i read it before you did :D
#1959 [08:52] <COmom> I purchsed Minecraft last night as a B'day gift for son. It will not download. Any suggestions?
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#1961 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> COmom - Why won't it download, what error do you get?
#1962 [08:53] <COmom> It timed out.
#1963 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> It timed out?
#1964 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> During the login process?
#1965 [08:54] <COmom> Yes, it sat and chugged for over an hour and then gave us a message that it timed out.
#1966 [08:54] <COmom> We do now get a screen to log in but it says that we are not a premium user. Is this due to timing out?
#1967 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> COmom - No, that's because the payment process hasn't been completed yet
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#1969 [08:55] <COmom> It has been over 12 hours now since I gave them my cc number. How long does this process normally take?
#1970 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> Mojang depends on third party institutions to take payment on their behalf, it's not uncommon for those institutions to take a few hours...
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#1972 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, 12's a little excessive.
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#1974 [08:56] <COmom> 12 is much more than few. I agree..excessive.
#1975 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> Could I ask what name you registered the account under?
#1976 [08:58] <COmom> Why? Is it something you can look up and check on?
#1977 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> Indeed I can.
#1978 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> If you wish, you can private message me with the name
#1979 [08:58] <COmom> COmatthew12
#1980 [08:58] <Awesomeness> !Paid COmatthew12
#1981 [08:58] <lili> hey everybody, I load down the game but it doesnt run all I get is (after it tolds that it updates) a black window which disapears shortly after .... anyone can help me???
#1982 [08:58] <Awesomeness> You haven't paid.
#1983 [08:59] <Awesomeness> Odd
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#1985 [08:59] <COmom> I have given my cc card twice. I'm already nervous of being charged twice.
#1986 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, Mojang shows that account has not premium yet. COmom - did you buy an account or a gift code?
#1987 [08:59] <COmom> an account
#1988 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> Have you checked your account balance using the credit card? Made sure that an amount has been deducted out?
#1989 [09:00] <COmom> We tried to buy last night and I again provided my cc number and tried to purchase again this morning.
#1990 [09:01] <COmom> I can check my cc card. Not sure it will show up on an online statement this quickly.
#1991 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> You'd be surprised.
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#1993 [09:02] <bobbym47> im having such a bad problem.
#1994 [09:02] <COmom> I'll switch windows and check
#1995 [09:02] <bobbym47> java is a piece of shit
#1996 [09:02] <lili> and if I try to run the Beta in the browser ist also coming a black window
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#1998 [09:03] <Awesomeness> GV, I have a quite important question, to me anyway
#1999 [09:03] <vcordie> Hello
#2000 [09:03] <GreyVulpine> Awesomeness - Ask away
#2001 [09:03] <Awesomeness> Can I pm you?
#2002 [09:03] <GreyVulpine> Sure
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#2004 [09:03] <bobbym47> does anyone think they can help me with java problems?
#2005 [09:04] <COmom> No, cc statement does not show anything. Last thing posted was 5/26
#2006 [09:04] <lili> hey - can someone maybe help me with cant get minecraft running?
#2007 [09:04] <OODavo> lili: Which operating system are you using?
#2008 [09:04] <lili> windows xp
#2009 [09:05] <tyteen4a03> what problems do you have when running minecraft?
#2010 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> COmom - When you paid for minecraft, did you get a confirmation page and/or email?
#2011 [09:05] <lili> in browser it shows only a black window
#2012 [09:05] <COmom> a page came up saying transaction was complete. Have not received an email.
#2013 [09:05] <OODavo> ??> lili win/reinst
#2014 [09:05] <VoxelHead> lili: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2015 [09:06] <VoxelHead> lili: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2016 [09:06] <GreyVulpine> COmom - What exactly did you use to pay? Did you use the straight credit card application, or Moneybookers, or paypal?
#2017 [09:06] <COmom> a visa credit card
#2018 [09:07] <bobbym47> :( is anyone able to help me get minecraft running??
#2019 [09:07] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, COmom - I would advise to keep a close eye on that credit card, maybe call them up to check your account balance.
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#2021 [09:07] <lili> k i try to check this out - thx :-))
#2022 [09:07] <OODavo> bobbym47: What exactly is your issue?
#2023 [09:07] <bobbym47> thanks, well its like this.
#2024 [09:07] <GreyVulpine> COmom - If there is a charge, you can take that as proof of payment when you decide to send an email to payment@mojang.com
#2025 [09:08] <mib_3f1bj2> when i open my minecraft it lets me log in then the mojang sign comes up then the screen goes black and it stops rersponding. please help.
#2026 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> COmom - Otherwise, if no money hasn't been taken out, I'd try one last time, but this time, use paypal instead, it's proven to be more reliable than the other payment methods Mojang has provided
#2027 [09:08] <COmom> the cc is fine and the balance is fine
#2028 [09:08] <bobbym47> iv played minecraft for some time on a different computer and now im home from university i have tried to get it working on a laptop.. but it says java doesnt exist or something along those lines
#2029 [09:08] <bobbym47> the exact message i get is this..
#2030 [09:08] <bobbym47> The registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime is . the system cannot find the file specified.
#2031 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> bobbym47 - Fully uninstall and reinstall java from java.com
#2032 [09:09] <bobbym47> i have done that several times over the last few days
#2033 [09:09] <bobbym47> it says the same thing every time
#2034 [09:09] <GreyVulpine> You uninstalled it fully, not just updated, correct?
#2035 [09:10] <bobbym47> erm. how would i go about uninstalling it?
#2036 [09:10] <bobbym47> that may be the issue
#2037 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> Depends on your operating system
#2038 [09:10] <bobbym47> im on vista
#2039 [09:10] <bobbym47> no
#2040 [09:10] <bobbym47> 7
#2041 [09:10] <bobbym47> yes win 7
#2042 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> start -> control panel -> Uninstall a program
#2043 [09:10] <bobbym47> okay i see
#2044 [09:11] <bobbym47> ill try now :)
#2045 [09:11] <bobbym47> am i looking for java specifically?
#2046 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2047 [09:12] <bobbym47> i have Java (TM) 6 update 25...
#2048 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> That's one..
#2049 [09:12] <GreyVulpine> Any others?
#2050 [09:12] <bobbym47> thats the only one with java in the name im afraid
#2051 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> That's fine, uninstall it
#2052 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> Do you know if you're running 32 or 64 bit Windows 7?
#2053 [09:13] <bobbym47> im 64 i think
#2054 [09:13] <Awesomeness> How much ram do you have?
#2055 [09:13] <bobbym47> is that important cos ill chech if it is.
#2056 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> Please double check. Start -> right click on Computer -> properties
#2057 [09:14] <lili> VoxelHead it didnt work :-( I deletet all files and try again only that black window comes again after the updete :-(
#2058 [09:14] <bobbym47> ok ill do both :)
#2059 [09:14] <OODavo> lili: Hmm. Next step to try is reinstalling Java from java.com.
#2060 [09:14] <bobbym47> yes 64 bit
#2061 [09:14] <bobbym47> is that where it will tell me my ram?
#2062 [09:14] <lili> k ty
#2063 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> Alright, once you uninstall java completely, go here:
#2064 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#2065 [09:15] <Awesomeness> Well, just checking
#2066 [09:15] <GreyVulpine> Download and use the 64-bit installer
#2067 [09:15] <bobbym47> ok
#2068 [09:15] <Awesomeness> Cause if you have 32 bit, it may not use all of your ram
#2069 [09:15] <Awesomeness> nvm then
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#2071 [09:16] <bobbym47> right thats uninstalled
#2072 [09:16] <bobbym47> ill go to that link now
#2073 [09:17] <bobbym47> ok im running the installer not
#2074 [09:18] <bobbym47> **now
#2075 [09:18] <bobbym47> ok it tells me i have successfully installed java, should i restart?
#2076 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2077 [09:19] <bobbym47> oky doky, i will be back to let you know if it works :)
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#2079 [09:21] <Awesomeness> Grey..?
#2080 [09:22] <Awesomeness> I would really appreaciate if you answered my question.
#2081 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> Oh sorry.
#2082 [09:22] <Awesomeness> I really need to work on that
#2083 [09:22] <Awesomeness> haha, no problem
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#2085 [09:22] <bobbym46> hello again.
#2086 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> You don't know how many IRC windows I have open
#2087 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2088 [09:22] <lala> k this is lili again - I installed Java new but still I only got a black window :-(
#2089 [09:22] <Awesomeness> lol
#2090 [09:22] <Awesomeness> lala - did you force update / delete everything from .minecraft?
#2091 [09:23] <lala> yip
#2092 [09:23] <bobbym46> i have restarted, is it time to try and run minecraft again?
#2093 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2094 [09:23] <bobbym46> im so excited
#2095 [09:23] <OODavo> lala: Maybe it's a graphics card issue. Do you know what graphics card you're using?
#2096 [09:24] <lala> ATI Catalyst ?
#2097 [09:24] <bobbym46> minecraft updated and then just dissapeared..
#2098 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> It disappeared? Did it leave any error reports?
#2099 [09:25] <lala> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6954aaae, pid=3608, tid=3696 # # JRE version: 6.0_25-b06 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.0-b11 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [atioglxx.dll+0x51aaae]
#2100 [09:25] <bobbym46> none came up on the screen would it save them somewhere?
#2101 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> bobbym46 - If it did, it would leave an hs_err_pid file in the same folder where you have minecraft.exe
#2102 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> lala's issue definitely looks like an ATI driver conflict
#2103 [09:26] <Vivek> same as me
#2104 [09:26] <Vivek> what pc are you using?
#2105 [09:27] <lala> thats too bad
#2106 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> lala - It should be as simple as updating your ATI drivers
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#2109 [09:28] <Vivek> lala what pc are you using?
#2110 [09:28] <bobbym46> yes it left me one of those.. hs_err_pid files
#2111 [09:28] <lala> oh no pls not update the driver I had so much trouble to get this ATI running lol
#2112 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> bobbym46 - New?
#2113 [09:28] <bobbym46> new?
#2114 [09:28] <lala> no a really old one ...
#2115 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Is it a new file bobbym46?
#2116 [09:29] <bobbym46> erm, its just appeared this minute
#2117 [09:29] <bobbym46> so yes
#2118 [09:29] <Vivek> bobby or lala, are either of you using a toshba pc?
#2119 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> bobbym46 - Could you please go into the file, copy the contents of it, go to http://www.pastebin.com, paste it there, press the submit button, and give me the link
#2120 [09:29] <bobbym46> i am :)
#2121 [09:29] <vcordie> aren't hs_err_pid files obsolete and not made by the new launcher?
#2122 [09:29] <Vivek> ahh
#2123 [09:29] <Vivek> that explains it
#2124 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> vcordie - No, they're not obsolete
#2125 [09:29] <lala> no
#2126 [09:29] <vcordie> well
#2127 [09:29] <vcordie> Obsolete was not the correct word to use
#2128 [09:29] <Vivek> is it a c660 laptop?
#2129 [09:30] <vcordie> I remember with the old launcher, whenever I closed the game with the x button rather then the exit button ingame, I would get one of those files popping up wherever the launcher was located.
#2130 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> I still see hs_err_pid files being generated by the new launcher...
#2131 [09:30] <vcordie> didn't happen with the new launcher.
#2132 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Ah, no, that's because of the OpenAL issue
#2133 [09:30] <bobbym46> http://pastebin.com/iBCNNWeG
#2134 [09:30] <bobbym46> does that work? i think i did it right
#2135 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Mojang was distributing an old OpenAL file that generated an err file every time minecraft was closed
#2136 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> That was fixed.
#2137 [09:31] <Vivek> bobby is it a toshiba c660 laptop because thats what it sounds like?
#2138 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> bobbym46 - Good news and bad news. Good news, it's not java screwing up anymore, bad news, it's your video card drivers that need updating
#2139 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what ATi video card you're running
#2140 [09:32] <Vivek> grey, i dont think he has an ati card
#2141 [09:32] <bobbym46> yes it is
#2142 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes he does
#2143 [09:32] <Vivek> oops :\
#2144 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> bobbym46 - Do you know how to update them?
#2145 [09:32] <bobbym46> oh okay
#2146 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> ATI.com -> update drivers?
#2147 [09:32] <bobbym46> not at all
#2148 [09:32] <bobbym46> im sorry for being such a spazz
#2149 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> No worries
#2150 [09:32] <bobbym46> you guys are so helpful
#2151 [09:32] <Awesomeness> ??> bobbym46 win/dxdiag
#2152 [09:32] <VoxelHead> bobbym46: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2153 [09:32] <VoxelHead> bobbym46: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2154 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> If you don't know what ATI card you have, pleaes... follow Awesomeness's directions there
#2155 [09:33] <Awesomeness> :3
#2156 [09:33] <Awesomeness> WIN+R = Windows Key + R
#2157 [09:33] <Awesomeness> Which is basically search dialog box
#2158 [09:33] <Awesomeness> *run, sorry
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#2160 [09:34] <bobbym46> paste it where sorry?
#2161 [09:35] <Awesomeness> pastebin.com
#2162 [09:35] <OODavo> VoxelHead probably should say pastebin.com instead of "the IRC channel".
#2163 [09:35] <bobbym46> yes where do i paste the pastebin link?
#2164 [09:35] <OODavo> Oh, wait. He does.
#2165 [09:36] * OODavo facepalms.
#2165 [09:36] <OODavo> Paste the link straight into this chat.
#2166 [09:36] <bobbym46> oh ok sorry i thought so lol
#2167 [09:37] <bobbym46> http://pastebin.com/vkw5xw3m
#2168 [09:37] <Awesomeness> Chip type: Intel(R) HD Graphics (Core i3)
#2169 [09:37] <Awesomeness> I3 eh
#2170 [09:37] <Awesomeness> Nice laptop.
#2171 [09:38] <bobbym46> is that all right?#
#2172 [09:38] <Vivek> bobby can you tell me what model your pc is please?
#2173 [09:38] <Awesomeness> It's alright for a cheap laptop.
#2174 [09:38] <Awesomeness> It's new, tho.
#2175 [09:39] <Vivek> aahh c660 same as me, are you sure it has ati graphics?
#2176 [09:39] <bobbym46> its actually my parents, my pc is on the other side of the country.. >:(
#2177 [09:39] <Vivek> lol
#2178 [09:39] <bobbym46> i have literally no idea wether it has ati graphics as i have no idea what that means, so sorry lol.
#2179 [09:40] <Vivek> i have that pc, and someone else came on the chat yesterday with it, and all three of us seem to be having the same problem
#2180 [09:40] <bobbym46> i am so simple
#2181 [09:40] <Vivek> i dont think you have ati graphics
#2182 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> One sec
#2183 [09:40] <Vivek> i have the same pc and it has an intel gma hd chipset
#2184 [09:40] <bobbym46> does it happen to you too? is toshiba messing me about??
#2185 [09:40] <Vivek> yep
#2186 [09:40] <bobbym46> ohnoes
#2187 [09:41] <Vivek> the last person went of to sue toshiba ;)
#2188 [09:41] <Vivek> i have been waiting here for a week hoping someone can think of a solution :(
#2189 [09:41] <bobbym46> haha, so is there no solution at the moment?
#2190 [09:41] <bobbym46> oh dear
#2191 [09:41] <Vivek> no :'(
#2192 [09:41] <bobbym46> well youu guys were so so helpful
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#2194 [09:41] <Vivek> out of interest, where did you get the laptop?
#2195 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> Hold on,we're not done yet
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#2198 [09:42] <bobbym46> i think comet.. to be honets i didnt even know they were still in business
#2199 [09:42] <bobbym46> honest**
#2200 [09:43] <Vivek> the only people who seem to be having this problem all seem to have the c660
#2201 [09:45] <Vivek> i think that toshiba might have put some software or something on the pc that java doent like
#2202 [09:45] <bobbym46> how deep does this problem run? or is it just minecraft that i wont run?
#2203 [09:45] <bobbym46> my mum's just freaking out and thinking about taking the laptop back now lol
#2204 [09:46] <Vivek> most other things seem to work, i can run cod 4 and basic java based games
#2205 [09:46] <Vivek> how old is yours?
#2206 [09:46] <Awesomeness> Age of a pc does not matter.
#2207 [09:46] <Vivek> in this case it does
#2208 [09:46] <Awesomeness> Why?
#2209 [09:47] <oldtopmanserver> Would you answer the question already?
#2210 [09:47] <Vivek> i want to ask if it crashes a lot, because mine did when it was only a few days old
#2211 [09:47] <Awesomeness> so?
#2212 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> bobbym46 - Can you look underneath your laptop, and give me a model number? Should be on a sticker
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#2214 [09:47] <Awesomeness> Maybe it was software or hardware fault.
#2215 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - I want you to do the same as well
#2216 [09:47] <brand123123> hi
#2217 [09:47] <Vivek> ok
#2218 [09:48] <Vivek> the serial?
#2219 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> No, model numebr
#2220 [09:48] <brand123123> can somebody help me?
#2221 [09:48] <Awesomeness> Sup Brand
#2222 [09:48] <brand123123> sup
#2223 [09:48] <Awesomeness> What's your problem
#2224 [09:48] <Vivek> Toshiba Satellite C660 1F1
#2225 [09:49] <brand123123> i get bad video card error
#2226 [09:49] <brand123123> got
#2227 [09:49] <brand123123> *
#2228 [09:49] <Awesomeness> Do a dxdiag, please
#2229 [09:49] <bobbym46> Toshiba Satellite C660 1d7
#2230 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - Is there a model number beneath that?
#2231 [09:49] <Awesomeness> ??> brand123123 win/dxdiag
#2232 [09:49] <VoxelHead> brand123123: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2233 [09:49] <VoxelHead> brand123123: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2235 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> bobbym46 - Is that the only model number there is?
#2236 [09:50] <brand123123> it dont work
#2237 [09:50] <bobbym46> thats the model name, then i have part no.
#2238 [09:50] <Vivek> there is part no. and serial no.
#2239 [09:50] <Awesomeness> What OS do you have, brand123123?
#2240 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> Alright, shoot me the part no.
#2241 [09:50] <Vivek> kk
#2242 [09:50] <brand123123> xp
#2243 [09:51] <Awesomeness> Okay, click the start button, press Run and type in dxdiag
#2244 [09:51] <Vivek> PSC0QE-02F023EN
#2245 [09:51] <bobbym46> which is..psc0qe-028022en
#2246 [09:51] <brand123123> ok press yes?
#2247 [09:51] <Awesomeness> Yeah
#2248 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> One moment
#2249 [09:51] <Awesomeness> If it prompts you to verify WHQL, press Yes.
#2250 [09:51] <brand123123> now what
#2251 [09:51] <bobbym46> this is sliiiick
#2252 [09:52] <Awesomeness> Once it's done, click 'save all information' and save it to your desktop.
#2253 [09:52] <brand123123> ok
#2254 [09:52] <Vivek> brb
#2255 [09:52] <brand123123> I saved it
#2256 [09:53] <Awesomeness> Open the file you saved, and paste it's contents onto www.pastebin.com
#2257 [09:54] <brand123123> ok
#2258 [09:54] <Awesomeness> Can you give me the link of your pastebin file?
#2259 [09:54] <brand123123> http://pastebin.com/eww7bVah
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#2262 [09:56] <Awesomeness> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/16836/a08/winxp_14324.zip&lang=eng&Dwnldid=16836&DownloadType=Drivers&OSFullname=Windows+XP+Professional*&ProductID=2301 Install that, pelase.
#2263 [09:56] <Awesomeness> *please
#2264 [09:56] <brand123123> Ok its downloading
#2265 [09:57] <PyroPeter> am I the only one experiencing very low fps only in smp?
#2266 [09:57] <brand123123> ok its done
#2267 [09:57] <bobbym46> i think you are the only one who can even get it working lol
#2268 [09:58] <Awesomeness> Brand: Install it.
#2269 [09:59] <oldtopmanserver> brand123123: no
#2270 [09:59] <Awesomeness> Oldtopman, sorry?
#2271 [09:59] <brand123123> wont let me install
#2272 [09:59] <Awesomeness> What do you mean?
#2273 [09:59] <Awesomeness> What does it say
#2274 [09:59] <oldtopmanserver> Awesomeness: I forgive you
#2275 [10:00] <Awesomeness> Oldtopman, I never asked for your 'forgiveness' I said sorry as in, why the no?
#2276 [10:00] <oldtopmanserver> Awesomeness: brand123123 asked if he was the only one with lag
#2277 [10:00] <brand123123> the driver being installed is not validated for this computer
#2278 [10:00] <oldtopmanserver> Awesomeness: The forgiveness was a jest
#2279 [10:00] <Vivek> kk im back
#2280 [10:00] <Awesomeness> That was Peter...
#2281 [10:00] <oldtopmanserver> brand123123: Install it anyway
#2282 [10:01] <brand123123> i cant
#2283 [10:01] <Awesomeness> Hold on Brand.
#2284 [10:01] <brand123123> then it says setup will be exited
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#2286 [10:01] <Vivek> found anything yet greyvulpine?
#2287 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> bobbym46 - Could you go here:
#2288 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
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#2290 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> Download and install those drivers
#2291 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - What OS do you have, win 7, 64-bit?
#2292 [10:02] <Vivek> yes
#2293 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> Could you do the same?
#2294 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#2295 [10:02] <Awesomeness> Brand: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/15278/a08/win2k_xp14323.exe&lang=eng&Dwnldid=15278&DownloadType=Drivers&OSFullname=Windows+XP+Professional*&ProductID=2301
#2296 [10:02] <Awesomeness> Try downloading that
#2297 [10:03] <Vivek> wait you want me to download drivers for a graphics card i dont have, will that satisfy java?
#2298 [10:03] <brand123123> more downloading :O
#2299 [10:03] <bobbym46> ok
#2300 [10:03] <brand123123> run it?
#2301 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - It's a long show right now, but I have no concrete proof pointing either way to what the heck is on your laptop
#2302 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> show = shot
#2303 [10:04] <Vivek> actually, me and gOne2002 found a few ati drivers lurking in my pc and registry keys and we deleted them, but that didnt help eirher
#2304 [10:04] <Vivek> either
#2305 [10:04] <brand123123> ok its done and it says the samething
#2306 [10:04] <Vivek> ill give it a go
#2307 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> I've got some sites giving me the C660 has a hidden ATI card underneath the intel crap
#2308 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> I've got other sites just stating an intel card
#2309 [10:04] <Vivek> :O
#2310 [10:04] <Awesomeness> Yes
#2311 [10:04] <Awesomeness> Install it
#2312 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> So I have no freakin idea
#2313 [10:04] <Awesomeness> What does it say?
#2314 [10:05] <Vivek> its just an i3 with an intel gma hd graphics chipset
#2315 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> Try it anyways
#2316 [10:05] <Awesomeness> ^LOL
#2317 [10:05] <brand123123> the driver being installed is not validated for this computer
#2318 [10:05] <Awesomeness> What?
#2319 [10:05] <Awesomeness> How does that make any sense
#2320 [10:05] <brand123123> idk
#2321 [10:05] <Awesomeness> .-.
#2322 [10:05] <Vivek> bobby, can you go into change/remove programs and see if there is anything with ATI listed in there please, i had that pre loaded on my pc
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#2324 [10:06] <vcordie> Howdy
#2325 [10:06] <Vivek> grey i couldnt install it
#2326 [10:06] <bobbym46> me enither
#2327 [10:06] <bobbym46> **neither
#2328 [10:07] <Vivek> cannot be installed due to incompatible sortware/hardware
#2329 [10:07] <bobbym46> same
#2330 [10:07] <Vivek> the version of your graphics adapter cannot be supported
#2331 [10:07] <bobbym46> thesame
#2332 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#2333 [10:08] <Vivek> bobby can you do what i asked above please?
#2334 [10:08] <bobbym46> sorry i missed that yes i will do
#2335 [10:08] <Vivek> thanks :)
#2336 [10:09] <bobbym46> is ATI the publisher of the name?
#2337 [10:09] <bobbym46> **or
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#2339 [10:09] <Vivek> either
#2340 [10:09] <bobbym46> sure
#2341 [10:09] <Vivek> so there are ati things installed there/
#2342 [10:09] <Vivek> ?
#2343 [10:09] <tbtjems> Is there anyway to change you're ingame username?
#2344 [10:09] <Boreeas> No, not atm
#2345 [10:10] <bobbym46> iv got a few things
#2346 [10:10] <tbtjems> baaaah, that sucks. Didnt know the name I choose was going to be my ingame name..
#2347 [10:10] <bobbym46> publisher is: ATI Technologies Inc.
#2348 [10:11] <Vivek> thats what i had before, what is the name of the software that has that publisher
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#2352 [10:12] <bobbym46> name is: Windows Driver Package - ATI Technologies Inc. (amdkmdap) Display (10/05/2010 8.783.0.0000)
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#2354 [10:12] <bobbym46> and it looks like the same thing is on there twice
#2355 [10:13] <Sprocket> i am vivek my login went weird again
#2356 [10:13] <brand123123> Awesomeness you there?
#2357 [10:13] <bobbym46> okay
#2358 [10:13] <Awesomeness> Yeah
#2359 [10:13] <Awesomeness> I'm a bit lost..
#2360 [10:13] <Awesomeness> hmmm
#2361 [10:13] <Sprocket> the same thing, are they drivers?
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#2363 [10:13] <bobbym46> i assume so
#2364 [10:13] <bobbym46> same version, same install date
#2365 [10:14] <Sprocket> would you mind sending me a printscreen?
#2366 [10:14] <bobbym46> sure, how can i send you that?
#2367 [10:14] <vcordie> hint
#2368 [10:14] <vcordie> it requires the use of the button called print screen
#2369 [10:14] <Sprocket> the only was i know is to put it in a word doc and send it to me, i could tell you how
#2370 [10:14] <vcordie> Hit the button called print screen
#2371 [10:15] <vcordie> go to mspaint
#2372 [10:15] <vcordie> hit control+v
#2373 [10:15] <vcordie> save
#2374 [10:15] <bobbym46> yeah, can i send the file through here?
#2375 [10:15] <vcordie> go to a image uploading service such as tinyimg
#2376 [10:15] <vcordie> no, dcc sucks.
#2377 [10:15] <vcordie> then give the person the link to that image.
#2378 [10:15] <Sprocket> thanks vcordie
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#2380 [10:15] <bobbym46> ok sure, one second
#2381 [10:16] <vcordie> Sarcasm meets helpfulness
#2382 [10:16] <Sprocket> lol
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#2384 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, alright, um
#2385 [10:16] <vcordie> *insert lame powerpuff girls reference here (in terms of sugar spice everything nice)*
#2386 [10:16] <vcordie> Too bored to come up with one
#2387 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> Sprocket - Can you try these drivers: http://support1.toshiba-tro.de/tedd-files2/0/display-20101006135732.zip
#2388 [10:17] <Vivek> sure
#2389 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> I can't begin to describe how much digging I had to do in toshiba's site
#2390 [10:17] <onixx> I just started playing, and I am trying to find a decent server with freebuild. Tried several serverlists on internet, but can't connect to any of the ones I find. How come?
#2391 [10:17] <Vivek> lol
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#2393 [10:17] <Vivek> they aren't the most helpful are they?
#2394 [10:17] <onixx> neh
#2395 [10:18] <onixx> anyone?
#2396 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#2397 [10:18] <Zyferus> patience, some ppl have actual lives to live
#2398 [10:18] <bobbym46> http://tinypic.com/r/qss5tj/7
#2399 [10:18] <bobbym46> hows that?
#2400 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> bobbym46 - Still, could you try http://support1.toshiba-tro.de/tedd-files2/0/display-20101006135732.zip
#2401 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> as well
#2402 [10:18] <bobbym46> hope it worked
#2403 [10:18] <Vivek> perfect, thanks
#2404 [10:19] <Vivek> onixx, that was for greyvulpine
#2405 [10:19] <bobbym46> ill do that GV
#2406 [10:19] <onixx> ah, sry
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#2408 [10:19] <onixx> But could you help me? I feel sad, just want to play minecraft :p
#2409 [10:20] <Vivek> yeah bobby, that is pretty much the same thing that was installed on mine, some windows ati drivers :S
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#2411 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> onixx - The reason you can't connect to many, is that 1.6 came out not too long ago, broke many custom servers
#2412 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> onixx - Many others are scrambling to undo the damage that 1.6's bugs have inflicted on them.
#2413 [10:20] <bobbym46> its just downloading now GV
#2414 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Many others are just offline, waiting for a more stable release, or just still on 1.5
#2415 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Alright
#2416 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - Let me know if it does anything
#2417 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> onixx - If you'd like, try this server: s.nerd.nu
#2418 [10:21] <onixx> That explains alot, thanks for the help! Any idea when servers will begin to work again?
#2419 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> It'll at least let you know if you can connect to a server or now, as it's updated to 1.6.5
#2420 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> now = not
#2421 [10:21] <Vivek> ok
#2422 [10:22] <guacamole> i downloaded this texture pack called half craft and it wont let me get on minecraft now my screen keeps going black...
#2423 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> onixx - I can't really give an ETA, as many server admins are either waiting on a custom server mod to be updated, or waiting on 1.6.7.. or..
#2424 [10:22] <Vivek> well i have to restart, so i will be back in a few minutes
#2425 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> Alright
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#2427 [10:23] <bobbym46> yes same
#2428 [10:23] <bobbym46> 2 mins
#2429 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> ??> guacamole win/reinst
#2430 [10:23] <VoxelHead> guacamole: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2431 [10:23] <VoxelHead> guacamole: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2432 [10:24] <guacamole> it worked :D thank you
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#2434 [10:25] <brand123123> can somebody help me
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#2436 [10:25] <bobbym47> okay, GV i have done that
#2437 [10:26] <bobbym47> but i really dont know what it is, i have faith in your higher knowledge though
#2438 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> bobbym46 - Can you try minecraft again?
#2439 [10:26] <bobbym47> sure
#2440 [10:26] <brand123123> can anybody help me?
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#2442 [10:28] <bobbym47> oh noes, its given me another hss_err_pid thing
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#2444 [10:28] <bobbym47> would you like that again?
#2445 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> bleh, I'm pretty sure of what it's going to say..
#2446 [10:28] <bobbym47> okay
#2447 [10:29] <Vivek> same here
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#2449 [10:30] <bobbym47> what a kerfuffle.
#2450 [10:31] <Vivek> your british aren't you :P
#2451 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmmm
#2452 [10:31] * Awesomeness hands GreyVulpine some coffee
#2452 [10:31] <bobbym47> i am
#2453 [10:31] <Vivek> sa e
#2454 [10:31] <Vivek> same
#2455 [10:31] * Vivek hands Awesomeness a receipt
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#2456 [10:33] <brand123123> Awesomeness any luck?
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#2458 [10:33] <Vivek> if i just threw in the file that minecraft is looking for would that solve it?
#2459 [10:34] <Awesomeness> Hold up Brand
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#2461 [10:34] <mr_fribble> hi everyone, i have a question
#2462 [10:34] <mr_fribble> I run the Minecraft_server.exe and it runs fine, but i cant seem to find where it is storing worlds and settings
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#2464 [10:34] <mr_fribble> where would it be stored?
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#2466 [10:35] <Awesomeness> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/16835/a08/winxp_14324.exe&lang=eng&Dwnldid=16835&DownloadType=Drivers&OSFullname=Windows+XP+Professional*&ProductID=2301
#2467 [10:35] <Awesomeness> Brand, try that
#2468 [10:35] <pumpy> Hey, is there a possibility to downgrade MC to 1,5x ? i cant play on my server since the last update and it wont update for a long time... :S
#2469 [10:36] <Vivek> bobby you could check your pm tab near the top of the page too
#2470 [10:36] <vcordie> mcnostaglia
#2471 [10:36] <brand123123> nope it says
#2472 [10:36] <brand123123> the driver being installed is not validated for this computer
#2473 [10:36] <vcordie> go here for downgrade: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-/
#2474 [10:36] <Awesomeness> Sorry, I don't know if I can help you
#2475 [10:36] <Awesomeness> I don't know why is that happening. :/
#2476 [10:36] <Vivek> vcordie he ran off
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#2479 [10:37] <Vivek> hes back
#2480 [10:37] <pumpy> sorry... did a mistake, so again, can i downgrade the game? :)
#2481 [10:37] <vcordie> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-/
#2482 [10:37] <vcordie> yes, go there
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#2484 [10:38] <pumpy> okey, ill try it, thanks :)
#2485 [10:38] <mag1cn1nja> whats the mcp mod channel?
#2486 [10:38] <mr_fribble> can anyone tell me the default location for storing minecraft server information using the executable Minecraft_server.exe
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#2488 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> Vivek / bobbym47 - I'm sorry, I can't seem to find a better driver for you guys yet.
#2489 [10:39] <bezaban> mr_fribble: search your disk for minecraft. did you look in the application data directory?
#2490 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> I'll keep working at it, but I do need to head on out here.
#2491 [10:39] <Vivek> ok
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#2493 [10:39] <brand123123> :(
#2494 [10:39] <tPotato4a03> ??> mr_fribble win/reinst
#2495 [10:39] <VoxelHead> mr_fribble: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2496 [10:39] <VoxelHead> mr_fribble: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2497 [10:39] <bobbym47> you did a great job buddy
#2498 [10:39] <tPotato4a03> bezaban: VodelHead is useful ;)
#2499 [10:40] <tPotato4a03> VoxelHead, I misspelt your name ;(
#2500 [10:40] <tPotato4a03> but yeah, you get the point
#2501 [10:40] <bezaban> tPotato4a03: ah, neat. I'm new here ;)
#2502 [10:40] <Vivek> ill be back later
#2503 [10:40] <mib_vcyljz> i need help with updating minecraft. i get "fatal error occured (4) null" any help for that?
#2504 [10:40] <Vivek> voxelhead is a bot :P
#2505 [10:40] <mr_fribble> huh? why would i need to reinstall?
#2506 [10:40] <mr_fribble> everything runs fine, i would just like to know where i can edit server information, like pvp=false and that sort of stuff
#2507 [10:41] <bezaban> mr_fribble: fribble. you dont, but it just told you where to find the files you need
#2508 [10:41] <bobbym47> a bot? dont mess with me that stuff gives me the willies
#2509 [10:41] <bezaban> %appdat%/.minecraft
#2510 [10:41] <bezaban> ish
#2511 [10:42] <mr_fribble> im just finding single player information
#2512 [10:42] <bezaban> ah.
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#2514 [10:43] <arty> don't know how this works but i just updated minecraft and the world I've been working on disappeared. its gone. did i do something wrong?
#2515 [10:43] <bezaban> well, try the first suggested solution then
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#2517 [10:43] <FranTiC> hi
#2518 [10:44] <bezaban> my bet is most people here arent running the server on windows
#2519 [10:44] <mr_fribble> lol dang it, i dont want my world on my server broken XD
#2520 [10:44] <FranTiC> can anybody help me? i have a problem with my map
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#2522 [10:44] <mr_fribble> you think most run on linux?
#2523 [10:44] <bezaban> aye
#2524 [10:44] <mr_fribble> ive always wanted to try a dual boot of linux
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#2526 [10:45] <mr_fribble> ive heard its alot quicker
#2527 [10:46] <FranTiC> everytime i want to open a chest the game crashs...
#2528 [10:47] <Ketsueki> FranTiC: does it crash if you open your inventory (e is the default)
#2529 [10:47] <FranTiC> i tried to destroy the chest but again the game crashed
#2530 [10:47] <FranTiC> no not the inventory
#2531 [10:47] <FranTiC> just one single chest
#2532 [10:47] <FranTiC> i think its because of a mod
#2533 [10:48] <FranTiC> but i dont know...
#2534 [10:48] <Ketsueki> Well, as I recently found out by accident destroying a chest empties it out...
#2535 [10:48] <Ketsueki> Which is the same as looking inside of it.
#2536 [10:49] <FranTiC> yeah i know... so thats no sollution ^^
#2537 [10:49] <Ketsueki> It sounds like you need an inventory editor for chests
#2538 [10:50] <FranTiC> does somthing like this really exist?
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#2541 [10:51] <Ketsueki> FranTiC: dunno, but that's what you need to look for. Try the pages on the minecraftwiki; they've been pretty complete for me.
#2542 [10:52] <FranTiC> hm i already looked on the wiki... twice ^^
#2543 [10:52] <mr_fribble> what is the filename of the server properties, used by minecraft_server.exe
#2544 [10:52] <FranTiC> but a third time cant be bad XD
#2545 [10:52] <xolotl> mr_fribble: server.properties
#2546 [10:52] <mr_fribble> maybe that way, i can search for it, and find its path
#2547 [10:52] <mr_fribble> so its the same as bukkit
#2548 [10:52] <mr_fribble> hmm
#2549 [10:53] <frogonia> hello
#2550 [10:53] <mr_fribble> wow, it saved it in my downloads XD
#2551 [10:53] <mr_fribble> how messy
#2552 [10:54] <bezaban> probably where you first ran it from then
#2553 [10:54] <mr_fribble> yeah
#2554 [10:54] <frogonia> im having problems with black screen, i get it as soon as i open minecraft, it loads and everything, shows the background (some blocks) then is black screens, any1 knows what to do?
#2555 [10:55] <frogonia> ive tryed reinstalling it, removing the bin folder
#2556 [10:55] <frogonia> still nothing
#2557 [10:55] <Ketsueki> frogonia: what type of hardware are you running it on?
#2558 [10:55] <pumpy> it wont work with nostalgia ... is there some other way?
#2559 [10:55] <mr_fribble> try reinstalling java?
#2560 [10:56] <frogonia> Win64bit, 4870 AMD gfx card, 4G ram
#2561 [10:56] <mr_fribble> thanks everyone for your help
#2562 [10:56] <Ketsueki> Your hardware should be more than up to that task
#2563 [10:56] <bezaban> happy mining
#2564 [10:56] <mr_fribble> :)
#2565 [10:56] <frogonia> yeah, hasnt been an issue before
#2566 [10:56] <frogonia> runs crysis at 60fps stable
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#2568 [10:58] <brand123123> Awesomeness media center edition if that helps
#2569 [10:59] <Awesomeness> Sorry?
#2570 [10:59] <frogonia> reinstalled Java, still black screens, ive tryed patching it, ive tryed reinstalling Minecraft
#2571 [10:59] <frogonia> deleted bin
#2572 [10:59] <frogonia> nothing works
#2573 [11:00] <Ketsueki> frogonia: what is literally everything that's happened since the last time it worked.
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#2576 [11:01] <frogonia> well nothing much really, i launched when 1.6.5 came out, updated it, and since then it hasnt been working
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#2578 [11:02] <frogonia> i honestly dont know what to do with it
#2579 [11:02] <Ketsueki> did you update java, windows, anything else?
#2580 [11:02] <bezaban> frogonia: I had some similar issues. updated the server and downloaded the client freshly from minecraft.net and it worked
#2581 [11:02] <bezaban> had to hang around abit for chunks to load, but looks ok now
#2582 [11:03] <bezaban> at first the client wouldnt update on its own either
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#2584 [11:03] <frogonia> well updated windows, re installed java just now, re downloaded and nothing
#2585 [11:03] <squibm> hi
#2586 [11:04] <squibm> minecraft was working fine on my laptop before, but since i reinstalled win7 i get an opengl error
#2587 [11:04] <squibm> anyone know whats up?
#2588 [11:05] <bezaban> frogonia: there was a new server update today too, could be 1.6.6 clients dont work well with earlier server versions
#2589 [11:05] <frogonia> have u tryed deleting the bin folder?
#2590 [11:05] <Ketsueki> squibm: drivers; gpu drivers
#2591 [11:05] <squibm> yeh, iv reinstalled them
#2592 [11:05] <frogonia> bezeban, ill have a look, brb
#2593 [11:06] <bezaban> without throwing a "client/server mismatch" error
#2594 [11:06] <squibm> im not sure but i may have used a hacked driver before cos i have an intel gma on win7
#2595 [11:06] <squibm> could that be the problem?
#2596 [11:07] <Ketsueki> Intel GMA is always a problem ;p
#2597 [11:07] <Ketsueki> Though my crappy old net-top can get like 3-4 FPS on really bad settings
#2598 [11:08] <squibm> but the annoying thing is it was working fine on win7 before
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#2600 [11:08] <squibm> do you guys know anything i could do?
#2601 [11:08] <frogonia> still nothing
#2602 [11:08] <bezaban> :(
#2603 [11:09] <frogonia> i open minecraft, loggin, it starts loading, shows the mojang logo w/e, then some blocks, and when the MINECRAFT text comes up with the singleplayer/multiplayer stuff, it black screens
#2604 [11:09] * mib_zu78r6 [mib_zu78r6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2605 [11:10] <mib_zu78r6> hello?
#2606 [11:10] <frogonia> god this is just....
#2607 [11:10] <mib_zu78r6> can some one help me?
#2608 [11:11] <frogonia> right ill just delete everything revolving minecraft or mojang and start from scratch, again
#2609 [11:11] <mib_zu78r6> are you having problems too
#2610 [11:11] <bezaban> mib_zu78r6: welcome to irc. we don't know.
#2611 [11:11] <frogonia> thats why im here ;)
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#2613 [11:11] <mib_zu78r6> i need help
#2614 [11:12] <Vivek> well explain your problem then :P
#2615 [11:14] <frogonia> YES FINALLY
#2616 [11:14] <frogonia> it wooooorks
#2617 [11:14] <frogonia> :)
#2618 [11:14] <bezaban> oh nice
#2619 [11:14] <bezaban> what did you do? seems like one of my users have a similar problem
#2620 [11:14] <mib_zu78r6> ok...so I start up minecraft and I login in then the start up logo appears and then nothing happens the screen goes black...I just recently downloaded a update so i'm guessing thats what happend...I then decided to down grade the update by going back to 1.6.4 and now every time I log in all it does is say done downloading and nothing happens
#2621 [11:14] <frogonia> mib
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#2623 [11:14] <frogonia> i had the same shit
#2624 [11:15] <frogonia> just delete everything that has to do with minecraft
#2625 [11:15] <frogonia> the entire minecraft folder
#2626 [11:15] <bezaban> very similar to what I had this morning.
#2627 [11:15] <frogonia> redownload the .exe from www.minecraft.net
#2628 [11:15] <mib_zu78r6> really?
#2629 [11:15] <frogonia> launch it
#2630 [11:15] <frogonia> i just did that
#2631 [11:15] <frogonia> just now
#2632 [11:15] <frogonia> works
#2633 [11:15] <mib_zu78r6> delete everything?
#2634 [11:16] <frogonia> yupp
#2635 [11:16] <mib_zu78r6> I have a server
#2636 [11:16] <frogonia> hmm
#2637 [11:16] <mib_zu78r6> I don't want to get rid of that
#2638 [11:16] <frogonia> well i had to make that sacrifice too
#2639 [11:16] <frogonia> buut
#2640 [11:16] <frogonia> if im not mistaking, u could probably make a copy out of it from ur save folder in .minecraft
#2641 [11:16] <frogonia> idk im not an expere
#2642 [11:17] <frogonia> expert
#2643 [11:17] <mib_zu78r6> can't I just delete everything but that
#2644 [11:17] <bezaban> client and server stores data in seperate places
#2645 [11:17] <bezaban> unless you mixed them
#2646 [11:17] <frogonia> so u could save the server right?
#2647 [11:18] <mib_zu78r6> I don't know...I don't want to take any risks
#2648 [11:18] <bezaban> yeah. apparently the server saves its data where it is run from and the client uses %AppDat%/.minecraft on windows
#2649 [11:18] <bezaban> then backup.
#2650 [11:18] <mib_zu78r6> so thats a no
#2651 [11:18] <bezaban> (but you're doing that already, right? ;))
#2652 [11:19] <mib_zu78r6> backing up all my files?
#2653 [11:19] <frogonia> just need to for all the relevant files
#2654 [11:20] <frogonia> well im off, gl :) thanks bez
#2655 [11:20] <mib_zu78r6> How do I back up...I've never done that before
#2656 [11:20] <bezaban> have fun
#2657 [11:20] <bezaban> mib_zu78r6: copy them somewhere.
#2658 [11:20] <mib_zu78r6> copy them?
#2659 [11:21] * bezaban nods.
#2659 [11:21] <brand123123> can somebody help me? minecraft dont work when i download it but it works in the browser
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#2661 [11:22] <mib_zu78r6> I think it maybe my entire account cause mine doesn't work in the browser
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#2663 [11:23] <Ketsueki> mib_zu78r6: contact actual support about that?
#2664 [11:23] <Ketsueki> I'd think they could at least inform you if there were /no/ issues
#2665 [11:24] <bezaban> well. your same issue was just experienced by frogonia, who suggested a fix.
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#2667 [11:24] <bezaban> but if you suspect that, mail mojang
#2668 [11:24] <mib_zu78r6> ok..I think I might do that....but I might try what he did
#2669 [11:25] <mib_zu78r6> where he deleted everything then re-downloaded it
#2670 [11:25] <brand123123> can some one help me please?
#2671 [11:26] <Jovial> with?
#2672 [11:26] <brand123123> minecraft only works in the browser
#2673 [11:27] <Jovial> what happens when you try to use the downloadable version?
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#2675 [11:27] <frogzilla> can u guys go on minecraft
#2676 [11:27] <brand123123> it says bad video card
#2677 [11:28] <frogzilla> mine just goes whit and there was a update
#2678 [11:28] <brand123123> this only started happening when i updated it
#2679 [11:28] <brand123123> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 5/31/11 11:28 AM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.6.6 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java
#2680 [11:29] <frogzilla> where do u do that
#2681 [11:29] <Jovial> hm
#2682 [11:29] <Jovial> idk how to help you tbh
#2683 [11:29] <bezaban> 1.6.5 had changes to openGL a few days ago
#2684 [11:29] <Jovial> google "legally downgrade minecraft"
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#2686 [11:30] <Jovial> I remember there being a forum post
#2687 [11:30] <Jovial> about downgrading
#2688 [11:30] <Jovial> yesterday
#2689 [11:30] <brand123123> ok
#2690 [11:31] <frogzilla> can anyone get on it
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#2692 [11:31] <mib_zu78r6> hey frog how did he delete everything
#2693 [11:31] <mib_zu78r6> I can't figure it out
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#2695 [11:31] <Jovial> go to start
#2696 [11:31] <frogzilla> what
#2697 [11:31] <Jovial> run
#2698 [11:31] <Jovial> type in %appdata%
#2699 [11:31] <Jovial> delete your .minecraft folder
#2700 [11:32] <frogzilla> make a back up folder
#2701 [11:32] <frogzilla> just in case
#2702 [11:33] <mib_zu78r6> it won't let me delete the file
#2703 [11:34] <bezaban> is minecraft running?
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#2705 [11:34] <mib_zu78r6> no...I think it maybe my server
#2706 [11:34] <mib_zu78r6> but I don't want to delete my server
#2707 [11:35] <mib_zu78r6> I just want to keep it running
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#2709 [11:36] <brand123123> how do i use downgrader?
#2710 [11:36] * Wug yawns and stretches n stuff
#2710 [11:36] <mib_zu78r6> don't do it
#2711 [11:36] <brand123123> y?
#2712 [11:37] <mib_zu78r6> I did it...It just made it worse
#2713 [11:37] <brand123123> -_-
#2714 [11:37] <oldtopman> downgrader = illegal
#2715 [11:37] <Jovial> it said it was legal
#2716 [11:37] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :oldtopman: ugh
#2717 [11:37] <Jovial> lol
#2718 [11:37] <Jovial> idk, I just glanced at it
#2719 [11:37] <mib_zu78r6> I went from 1.6.6 to 1.6.4 and was just a waste
#2720 [11:37] <Wug> oldtopman stop trying to scare them away
#2721 [11:37] <brand123123> i got it off fourms
#2722 [11:37] <Wug> mcnostalgia isnt illegal
#2723 [11:37] <Wug> its questionably legal and mojang is ok with it
#2724 [11:37] <brand123123> i dont even know how to use it -_-
#2725 [11:38] <Wug> which is just as good as legal
#2726 [11:38] <oldtopman> Wug: Yeah it is
#2727 [11:38] <Wug> it comes with instructions
#2728 [11:38] <oldtopman> Wug: mcforums =/= law
#2729 [11:38] <mib_zu78r6> what happens if I delete my server
#2730 [11:38] <Wug> oldtopman - which part of the tos does it violate
#2731 [11:38] <mib_zu78r6> can I bring it back
#2732 [11:38] <Jovial> depends: do you have a recycle bin?
#2733 [11:39] <Jovial> xD
#2734 [11:39] <oldtopman> Wug The bit where it says "THE ONE BIG RULE: DO NOT REDISTRIBUTE ANYTHING WE'VE MADE"
#2735 [11:39] <Wug> nothing they made gets distributed
#2736 [11:39] <bezaban> thats why you back it up.
#2737 [11:39] <bezaban> but you have mixed your client and server files?
#2738 [11:39] <mib_zu78r6> I don't think so
#2739 [11:39] <oldtopman> Wug: Then how does it change 1.6 into 1.5?
#2740 [11:39] <bezaban> is there a server.properties file in there? (does win have that btw?)
#2741 [11:39] <Wug> the difference files are useless unless you have a working unmodded version
#2742 [11:39] <PlanetNiles> I just reinstalled my PC on a reformatted HD and suddenly Minecraft won't even go to the launcher screen. Java is freshly installed but no dice
#2743 [11:39] <mib_zu78r6> I have a separate file that says MC server
#2744 [11:39] <Wug> with a difference file that someone else made.
#2745 [11:40] <Wug> it's as legal as a mod
#2746 [11:40] <oldtopman> Wug: The differrences were made by notch amiraire?
#2747 [11:40] <oldtopman> amitite*
#2748 [11:40] <Wug> its like if I trademarked 10 and 8
#2749 [11:40] <oldtopman> Is fo, then it falls inder "Everything"
#2750 [11:40] <Wug> you could subtract them and get 2
#2751 [11:40] <oldtopman> Wug: Have you ever written code?
#2752 [11:40] <brand123123> the downgrader dont work -_-
#2753 [11:40] <Wug> which you could use to make 10 8, or 8 10
#2754 [11:40] <Wug> i've written tons of code
#2755 [11:41] <_303> brand123123: what downgrader?
#2756 [11:41] <oldtopman> Wug: It isn't as simple as editing a number. It has the changed code.
#2757 [11:41] <brand123123> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/284331-tool-mc-downgrader-legally-downgrade-minecraft/
#2758 [11:41] <_303> mcnostalgia? if so, come to #risucraft and tell the author
#2759 [11:41] <Wug> it's data. everything's numbers
#2760 [11:41] <_303> oh, that's another then
#2761 [11:41] <bezaban> wug: on a totally unrelated note, there is discussion around patented algorithms that are arguably "just maths"
#2762 [11:41] <Wug> and the algorithm is pretty much just subtraction
#2763 [11:41] <xolotl> IMO that whole "omg this is legal" aspect of mcnostalgia is total BS
#2764 [11:41] <PlanetNiles> hello?
#2765 [11:41] <Jovial> the thing is, mojang doesn't even give a shit
#2766 [11:42] <_303> brand123123: try http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-/
#2767 [11:42] <_303> ~title
#2768 [11:42] <bezaban> yeah, you're not going to feel the wrath of mojang :P
#2769 [11:42] <Wug> if you opened up a difference patch and searched for anything notch made, you'd find nothing
#2770 [11:42] <McPlusPlus> "[TOOL] Cyborg's Tools - MCNostalgia 1.0.2 - Minecraft Forum" (http://is.gd/LPJtsx)
#2771 [11:42] <oldtopman> _303: What is his username?
#2772 [11:42] <_303> oldtopman: cyborgdragon
#2773 [11:42] <oldtopman> xolotl: As in you think its illegal?
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#2775 [11:43] <TomC> Hello?
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#2777 [11:43] <TomC> ?
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#2779 [11:43] <oldtopman> ??> TomC ask
#2780 [11:43] <TomC> Bonjour Hello?
#2781 [11:43] <VoxelHead> TomC: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2782 [11:43] <xolotl> oldtopman: I suppose so, though that's not what annoys me aobut it. It's the whole smarmy "oh look at this loophole I discovered" kind of asshattery inherent to it
#2783 [11:43] <VoxelHead> TomC: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2784 [11:44] <oldtopman> xolotl: There is no loophole?
#2785 [11:44] <mib_mjokyj> can someone tell me how to work mods i dont have a clue and when i try it does not work.....
#2786 [11:44] <oldtopman> xolotl: There is no loophole!
#2787 [11:44] <xolotl> If you're going to downgrade, just bloody find an old version of the jar and doublecheck the md5/sha1 or whatever
#2788 [11:44] <xolotl> IMO, again.
#2789 [11:44] <oldtopman> ??> mib_mjokyj mods
#2790 [11:44] <VoxelHead> mib_mjokyj: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2791 [11:44] <PlanetNiles> I can't get minecraft to run at all.. it won't even go to launcher from the exe
#2792 [11:44] <VoxelHead> mib_mjokyj: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2793 [11:44] <oldtopman> xolotl: Which is illegal
#2794 [11:44] <Wug> xolotl, that is illegal;
#2795 [11:44] <TomC> Can some one tell me how to get into the game, when it gets stuck on the loggin bar?
#2796 [11:44] <FranTiC> i cant find a chest editor... only inv edit...
#2797 [11:44] <xolotl> oldtopman: And again, I don't see how binary differences are any different
#2798 [11:44] <xolotl> Still Mojang code, IMO.
#2799 [11:44] <Wug> but it's not
#2800 [11:44] <xolotl> Wug: We're going to have to agree to disagree. :)
#2801 [11:44] <Wug> its useless garbage without a working version
#2802 [11:44] <mib_mjokyj> thabks :]
#2803 [11:45] <bezaban> ??> TomC win/reinst
#2804 [11:45] <bezaban> works for some
#2805 [11:45] <VoxelHead> TomC: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2806 [11:45] <oldtopman> Wug: Look at t this way.
#2807 [11:45] <VoxelHead> TomC: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2808 [11:45] <mib_zu78r6> YESSS!!
#2809 [11:45] <mib_zu78r6> I got it
#2810 [11:45] <xolotl> I'd be willing to bet that it would take as little as three binary diffs to completely reconstruct minecraft.jar
#2811 [11:45] <oldtopman> Wug: If I write code that edits an empty file into minecraft then that would be illegal right?
#2812 [11:46] <mib_zu78r6> thanks guys later
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#2814 [11:46] <xolotl> Perhaps there would be small bits from a zip header that'd need recreation manually
#2815 [11:46] <Ketsueki> xolotl: that would be true, if it weren't for compression.
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#2817 [11:46] <Wug> the fact that it packs everything into a compressed jar makes that issue a nonissue
#2818 [11:46] <PlanetNiles> I just reinstalled my PC on a reformatted HD and suddenly Minecraft won't even go to the launcher screen. Java is freshly installed but it just won't work
#2819 [11:46] <Wug> all of the external resources can be downloaded from the minecraft data repository thingee
#2820 [11:46] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :And the obfuscation doubly so.
#2821 [11:46] <oldtopman> Wug: If I write code that edits an empty file into minecraft then that would be illegal right?
#2822 [11:46] <PlanetNiles> suddenly as in it worked before
#2823 [11:47] <Jovial> PlanetNiles: are your video drivers updated?
#2824 [11:47] <Wug> there is one file that matters
#2825 [11:47] <Wug> minecraft.jar
#2826 [11:47] <brand123123> im just going to re dl minecraft
#2827 [11:47] <Wug> since it's not empty
#2828 [11:47] <PlanetNiles> I believe so Jovial
#2829 [11:47] <Wug> your point is invalid
#2830 [11:47] <Jovial> m
#2831 [11:47] <Jovial> hm*
#2832 [11:48] <Wug> and that's perfectly legal. haven't you heard of modding?
#2833 [11:48] <Wug> all you have to do is open the jar in winrar or something and drag an empty file in
#2834 [11:48] <oldtopman> Wug: If I write code that edits an empty file into minecraft then that would be illegal right? But if it checked to make sure that it was the latest jar, it would be okay?
#2835 [11:48] <Jovial> can we stop debating, people need help here
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#2837 [11:48] <Wug> oldtopman - if that were true, then modding would be illegal
#2838 [11:49] <nick> hello?
#2839 [11:49] <nick> im having some trouble running minecraft
#2840 [11:49] <Wug> nick is a bad choide
#2841 [11:49] <oldtopman> Wug: So it seems Notch is contradicting himself
#2842 [11:49] <Wug> "If you've bought the game, you may play around with it and modify it."
#2843 [11:49] <Guest17093> i keep getting an opengl error
#2844 [11:49] <Wug> you can do whatever with it, including adding empty files
#2845 [11:49] <Guest17093> and updating the drivers doesnt work
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#2847 [11:50] <Wug> do you have intel integrated graphics?
#2848 [11:50] <Guest17093> yes
#2849 [11:50] <TomC> Now it freezes on "Downloading Packages
#2850 [11:50] <Wug> those are very problematic
#2851 [11:50] <Guest17093> it was working fine earlier
#2852 [11:50] <Guest17093> its since i did a fresh os install
#2853 [11:50] <bezaban> TomC: I had to get a fresh one from minecraft.net
#2854 [11:51] * oldtopman thinks Notch needs a lawyer
#2854 [11:51] <Wug> notch has tons of lawyers
#2855 [11:51] <bezaban> Guest17093: make sure openGL is working - which is not really a minecraft issue. Changes using opengl was added in the update 2 days ago.
#2856 [11:51] <Wug> or mojang does, pick your favorite
#2857 [11:51] <TomC> Its being nasty to me =[
#2858 [11:51] <Guest17093> iv not used it for 4 days
#2859 [11:51] <Wug> bezaban, he reinstalled his os
#2860 [11:52] <Guest17093> so mayb the opengl changes have affected it
#2861 [11:52] <Wug> what sort of computer are you using?
#2862 [11:52] <Wug> it is a laptop?
#2863 [11:52] <Guest17093> laptop
#2864 [11:52] <Guest17093> yes
#2865 [11:52] <TomC> yea
#2866 [11:52] <Wug> check the manufacturers website and see if they provide drivers
#2867 [11:52] <Guest17093> i have updated to the vista drivers
#2868 [11:52] <bezaban> looks like opengl might be enabled by default. toggling it off in a config file might fix that (although you'd loose opengl accel of course)
#2869 [11:52] <Wug> maybe open a support ticket with them about opengl not working
#2870 [11:52] <Guest17093> they dont have win7 drivers
#2871 [11:53] <Wug> minecraft won't run without opengl acceleration
#2872 [11:53] <bezaban> ah
#2873 [11:53] <TomC> :O
#2874 [11:53] <Wug> you get the 'no accelerated pixel format' error
#2875 [11:53] <Guest17093> i get the no accelerated opengl error
#2876 [11:53] <TomC> it has frozen on "Done Loading" what should I do?
#2877 [11:53] <Guest17093> tomc, you got to mgs?
#2878 [11:53] <bezaban> TomC: I had to get a fresh one from minecraft.net
#2879 [11:54] <TomC> what do you mean a fresh one?
#2880 [11:54] <bezaban> go to minecraft.net. download it again instead of using the auto-updater
#2881 [11:54] <bezaban> no idea why, but it seems to have been working for pepole
#2882 [11:54] <TomC> Do I have to delete all previous files?
#2883 [11:55] <bezaban> TomC: I didn't, but some suggest it
#2884 [11:55] <PlanetNiles> okay I'm going to reDL the latest drivers and see if that fixes it. TBH I don't see how that would stop the exe launching but nvm.
#2885 [11:55] <PlanetNiles> TTFN and thanks
#2886 [11:55] <bezaban> try without
#2887 [11:55] <bezaban> the solution is still in the making
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#2889 [11:55] <wippler> help me
#2890 [11:55] <wippler> i need help
#2891 [11:55] <brand123123> idk what was the point of buying the game if i cant play it -_-
#2892 [11:56] <Guest17093> what changed have been made regarding opengl to minecraft?
#2893 [11:56] <wippler> i can't play!
#2894 [11:56] <bezaban> Guest17093: I was mistaken, was just the advanced opengl option
#2895 [11:56] <Wug> Guest17093, advanced opengl was reintroduced
#2896 [11:56] <Guest17093> ok
#2897 [11:56] <bezaban> which seems to be off
#2898 [11:56] <wippler> i had a downloaded version, but then i bought the one to get multiplayer, but i didn't change even though i payed!
#2899 [11:56] <wippler> wodduido!
#2900 [11:57] <Wug> Guest17093: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Other-Programming-Files/OpenGL-Extension-Viewer.shtml
#2901 [11:57] <TomC> On updating mine craft loggin it just freezes towards the end..
#2902 [11:57] <wippler> help meh
#2903 [11:57] <Wug> its an opengl diagnostic tool
#2904 [11:57] <Guest17093> cheers
#2905 [11:57] <Wug> it's almost certainly an opengl problem you are experiencing
#2906 [11:57] <Guest17093> should i paste my minecraft error page?
#2907 [11:57] <TomC> me?
#2908 [11:57] <wippler> me?
#2909 [11:58] <brand123123> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 5/31/11 11:58 AM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.6.6 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java
#2910 [11:58] <wippler> help me man¬
#2911 [11:58] <Wug> guest: I'd take out a support ticket on your laptop's manufacturer's website
#2912 [11:58] <wippler> i need help! really!
#2913 [11:58] <Wug> wip: with what
#2914 [11:58] <wippler> well...
#2915 [11:58] <Guest17093> k , only problem is my laptop is out of warranty so they dont really care
#2916 [11:58] <wippler> i had an illegal version, the n i bought the game to be nice, but it doesnt work normally, its the same as the illegal 1
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#2918 [11:59] <TomC> :|
#2919 [11:59] <oldtopman> wippler: Yep!
#2920 [11:59] <wippler> wot do i do?
#2921 [11:59] <oldtopman> wippler: Thanks for buying the game and being nice!
#2922 [11:59] <Guest17093> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 31/05/11 16:55 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.6.6 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1
#2923 [11:59] <vcordie> Hello
#2924 [11:59] <wippler> but it won't work!
#2925 [11:59] * Kealper rawrs
#2925 [11:59] <brand123123> thats what i have tpp
#2926 [11:59] <brand123123> *too
#2927 [12:00] <TomC> wippler does it freeze towards the end of loggin?
#2928 [12:00] <wippler> oldtopman:but it doesnt work like the normal 1!
#2929 [12:00] * Kealper sits down
#2929 [12:00] <wippler> no, it is the same as the illegal 1, which is not right
#2930 [12:01] <wippler> it is supposed to be different layout
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#2932 [12:01] <wippler> also i cant play smp
#2933 [12:01] <Guest17093> which vers of opengl does minecraft need?
#2934 [12:01] <mib_5nc5g7> hi
#2935 [12:01] <Kealper> Guest17093: 1.1
#2936 [12:01] <Kealper> mib_5nc5g7: hi
#2937 [12:01] <wippler> so?
#2938 [12:01] <wippler> woddu i do?
#2939 [12:01] <TomC> Can I have a refund :(
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#2941 [12:01] <Guest17093> according to the diagnostic tool opengl 1.1 works fine
#2942 [12:01] <Kealper> wippler: hmm...what doesn
#2943 [12:01] <vcordie> Guest17093, I got that error when I screwed up installing latest nvidia card drivers for my card
#2944 [12:01] <Kealper> bah
#2945 [12:01] <Kealper> wippler: what doesn't work about it?
#2946 [12:01] <vcordie> so corrupted drivers can cause that issue
#2947 [12:02] <Guest17093> but everything else works fine
#2948 [12:02] <wippler> multiplayer doesnt and skins dont either and the menu layout looks like that of the illegal 1 but it is supposed to be different
#2949 [12:02] <vcordie> also, if you have a card thats like nvdia geforce 8500 gt, 9500, 8400, etc
#2950 [12:02] <vcordie> do not update your drivers
#2951 [12:02] <vcordie> >_>
#2952 [12:02] <Kealper> TomC: before i tell you how to get a refund, might i ask..why did you need one? we might be able to solve whatever problem you have
#2953 [12:02] <mib_5nc5g7> i cant game minecraft there stands loading done and so it will not rise further
#2954 [12:02] <oldtopman> vcordie: what ahppens?
#2955 [12:03] <Guest17093> wug i used your tool and opengl 1.1 and 1.2 work fine
#2956 [12:03] <wippler> so help!
#2957 [12:03] <TomC> I cant log in :( I dont want a refund I want to play, but I cant fix it I have been tring for days :(
#2958 [12:03] <brand123123> what tool?
#2959 [12:03] <vcordie> your card overheats
#2960 [12:03] <vcordie> not even kidding
#2961 [12:03] <vcordie> or you get artifacts on your screen
#2962 [12:03] <vcordie> or it starts failing randomly
#2963 [12:03] <Kealper> TomC: ok, what does it tell you when you try?
#2964 [12:03] <vcordie> a lot of issues, really.
#2965 [12:03] <vcordie> So many on the nvidia forums,
#2966 [12:03] <wippler> so? what do i do kaelper?
#2967 [12:04] <vcordie> Nvidia software makes nvidia hardware overheat. >_>
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#2970 [12:04] <Kealper> wippler: are you using Windows?
#2971 [12:04] <brand123123> how u get refund?
#2972 [12:04] <wippler> kaelper: i need refund
#2973 [12:04] <mib_ac1zce> how do i authenticate my work
#2974 [12:04] <wippler> yeh
#2975 [12:04] <TomC> It says Done loading and on the load bar it just freezes about a centemeter from the end and it just stays there
#2976 [12:04] <Kealper> calm down with the refunds, people...we'll fix the problems ._.
#2977 [12:04] <brand123123> i want a refund -_-
#2978 [12:04] <wippler> so what do i do to fix the damn thing?
#2979 [12:04] <brand123123> jkjk
#2980 [12:05] <Kealper> ??>> wippler win/reinst
#2981 [12:05] <Kealper> follow what VoxelHead told you
#2982 [12:05] <Kealper> brand123123: what is your issue?
#2983 [12:05] <TomC> Kealper ?
#2984 [12:05] <wippler> k ill try, see ya!
#2985 [12:05] <bezaban> he has no opengl
#2986 [12:05] <Kealper> TomC: windows?
#2987 [12:05] <TomC> yea
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#2989 [12:06] <Kealper> ??>> TomC win/reinst
#2990 [12:06] <mib_646brb> Can any one help me? I'm going to sleep on my server and go offline, then there always end of stream and I can not thing the same I've made ​​a friend with him and it was exactly?
#2991 [12:06] <Kealper> follow what VoxelHead said
#2992 [12:06] <brand123123> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 5/31/11 11:58 AM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.6.6 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java
#2993 [12:06] <TomC> I did it didnt work
#2994 [12:06] <Kealper> brand123123: windows? lol
#2995 [12:06] <Kealper> ??>> brand123123 win/dxdiag
#2996 [12:07] <Kealper> yeah, i see it right now, forget that, stupid question
#2997 [12:07] <Kealper> brand123123: follow what VoxelHead told you, and then give me the pastebin URL
#2998 [12:07] <brand123123> http://pastebin.com/eww7bVah
#2999 [12:07] <Kealper> TomC: are you trying to play in the browser or with the downloaded client?
#3000 [12:08] <TomC> both, neither work
#3001 [12:08] <Kealper> TomC: play in the browser, and when it gets to the part that it gets stuck, leave it right there and tell me
#3002 [12:08] <Guest17093> hey according to the diagnostic tool opengl 1.1 and 1.2 work, but i still get the accelerated opengl error on minecraft
#3003 [12:08] <Kealper> the browser one has a debug console that might help get info
#3004 [12:09] <brand123123> kealper
#3005 [12:09] <brand123123> http://pastebin.com/eww7bVah
#3006 [12:09] <TomC> ok
#3007 [12:09] <TomC> done
#3008 [12:09] <Kealper> brand123123: go to dell.com and get the latest drivers from there for your graphics card
#3009 [12:09] <wheybags> dell page often doesnt have the latest version
#3010 [12:09] <Kealper> ??>> Guest17093 win/dxdiag
#3011 [12:09] <Blue> brand123123: Minecraft is going to run like crap on your system
#3012 [12:09] <Kealper> Guest17093: follow what VoxelHead told you
#3013 [12:10] <Kealper> Blue: yeah, but it should still run
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#3015 [12:10] <Blue> wheybags: It doesnt mean LATEST. Most people never installed their graphics cards in the first place
#3016 [12:10] <wikkit> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. I tried redownloading the client and minecraft.jar and i am getting this -- BEGI
#3017 [12:10] <wikkit> i get this error
#3018 [12:10] <wikkit> (
#3019 [12:10] <TomC> Kealper Done
#3020 [12:10] <Blue> Pastebin wikkit
#3021 [12:10] <Kealper> TomC: one sec, really busy in here ._.
#3022 [12:10] <TomC> ok sorry :(
#3023 [12:10] <Blue> Kealper: No need to fear. Im here
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#3025 [12:10] <squib> hey according to the diagnostic tool opengl 1.1 and 1.2 work, but i still get the accelerated opengl error on minecraft
#3026 [12:10] <Kealper> Blue: D:
#3027 [12:11] <wikkit> Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.6.6 OS: Windows Vista (x86) version 6.0 Java: 1.6.0_24, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450 version 2.1.7980 Release, ATI Technologies Inc. java.nio.BufferOverflowException at java.nio.DirectByteBuffer.put(Unknown Source)
#3028 [12:11] <Kealper> WAIT
#3029 [12:11] <Blue> wikkit: PASTEBIN THE WHOLE ERROR PLEASE
#3030 [12:11] <Kealper> wikkit: you have a really simple issue to fix
#3031 [12:11] <Blue> oh
#3032 [12:11] <mib_2hr8c8> okay im here again, i was wippler, it still doesnt work, im lost
#3033 [12:11] <Kealper> wikkit: i'll get yours out of the way then i'll work on TomC
#3034 [12:11] <wikkit> How do paste bin
#3035 [12:11] <Kealper> wikkit: go in to %appdata%\.minecraft and delete the texturepacks folder
#3036 [12:11] <wikkit> k
#3037 [12:11] <wikkit> oh is it mytexture
#3038 [12:11] <wikkit> tthats doing it?
#3039 [12:12] <Kealper> wikkit: you installed an HD texture pack
#3040 [12:12] <Blue> Yes
#3041 [12:12] <wikkit> damn
#3042 [12:12] <wikkit> k
#3043 [12:12] <Kealper> TomC: ok now....lol
#3044 [12:12] <wikkit> thanks
#3045 [12:12] <mib_2hr8c8> you see, after i ran the command, it came up with a box saying"what software will you use to open it?
#3046 [12:12] <TomC> yea
#3047 [12:12] <TomC> im on it
#3048 [12:12] <Kealper> TomC: look in the bottom right of your screen, by the clock...there should be a little white coffee cup icon
#3049 [12:12] <mib_2hr8c8> so what do i do?
#3050 [12:12] <brand123123> nvidia?
#3051 [12:12] <TomC> the java icon? its not there
#3052 [12:12] <wikkit> ty
#3053 [12:13] <Kealper> mib_2hr8c8: is it called "minecraft" and has a white icon?
#3054 [12:13] <mib_2hr8c8> no
#3055 [12:13] <squib> hey according to the diagnostic tool opengl 1.1 and 1.2 work, but i still get the accelerated opengl error on minecraft, anybody know whats up?
#3056 [12:13] <mib_2hr8c8> i dont know what you mean
#3057 [12:13] <Kealper> TomC: you might have to click the up arrow on that bar, it might be hidden
#3058 [12:13] <TomC> No it isnt there
#3059 [12:13] <Kealper> mib_2hr8c8: you are trying to start minecraft, but it's telling you that it doesn't know how to open it, right?
#3060 [12:13] <mib_2hr8c8> it says in a box" open with" at the top and comes up with a small list
#3061 [12:14] <Kealper> TomC: hmm....and the game window is still open, with the progress bar?
#3062 [12:14] <mib_2hr8c8> then there is the option to browwse
#3063 [12:14] <mib_2hr8c8> nononono
#3064 [12:14] <TomC> yea and its still froze
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#3066 [12:14] <mib_2hr8c8> when i got the illegal one, its layout was diff to that of the normal 1. i got the normal 1, but it still looks like the illegal 1
#3067 [12:14] <Kealper> mib_2hr8c8: OH
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#3069 [12:15] <mib_2hr8c8> like i sed
#3070 [12:15] <Kealper> mib_2hr8c8: go in to %appdata%\.minecraft and delete EVERYTHING in that folder except for the "saves" folder
#3071 [12:15] <mib_2hr8c8> i pressed windows +r, put in the command, but the box i was talking about came up
#3072 [12:15] <Kealper> mib_2hr8c8: then run it again
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#3074 [12:16] <TomC> :(
#3075 [12:16] <Kealper> mib_2hr8c8: the %appdata%|.minecraft doesn't work for you?
#3076 [12:16] <mib_2hr8c8> no it doesnt say minecraft
#3077 [12:16] <mib_2hr8c8> w8
#3078 [12:16] <Kealper> also i meant to put a \ and not a | in that, typo lol
#3079 [12:16] <Kealper> TomC: ever heard of TeamViewer?
#3080 [12:16] <TomC> no
#3081 [12:17] <mib_2hr8c8> ok bak
#3082 [12:17] <Kealper> TomC: it's a program that lets one person control a computer from a different place...basically if we did it, i could see what was on your screen, and move your mouse and such...did you want to do that so i could poke around and see why it's not working?
#3083 [12:18] <mib_2hr8c8> when i put it in it comes up with a box
#3084 [12:18] <TomC> what can you see :|
#3085 [12:19] <mib_2hr8c8> what do i open it with?
#3086 [12:19] <Kealper> sorry, phone rang
#3087 [12:19] <Wug> ?? teamviewer
#3088 [12:19] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#3089 [12:19] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#3090 [12:19] <Kealper> TomC: the whole desktop, it would be like sitting at your computer and looking at your monitor...if you don't feel comfortable with that, that is fine...many people think it sounds scary lol
#3091 [12:19] <squib> i get an accelerated opengl error but the diagnostic tools say opengl 1.1 works fine
#3092 [12:20] <TomC> yea it is...
#3093 [12:20] <TomC> erm
#3094 [12:20] <xales> squib: Minecraft doesn't use OpenGL 1.1
#3095 [12:20] <TomC> can i see what your doing?
#3096 [12:20] <mib_2hr8c8> what do i do?
#3097 [12:20] <squib> which vers does it use?
#3098 [12:20] <Kealper> mib_2hr8c8: i forget...are you using windows 7/vista or are you using windows xp?
#3099 [12:20] <Blue> 1 I think
#3100 [12:20] <squib> xales which vesriondoes it use?
#3101 [12:20] <xales> 1.3
#3102 [12:20] <xales> IIRC
#3103 [12:20] <squib> ahh cheers
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#3105 [12:21] <kendle> hello
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#3107 [12:21] <mib_2hr8c8> xp
#3108 [12:21] <kendle> i cant connet to the minecraft servers
#3109 [12:21] <mib_2hr8c8> iM USING XP
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#3111 [12:21] <Kealper> mib_2hr8c8: read it the first time
#3112 [12:21] <kendle> in client it dont work, but it works in browser
#3113 [12:21] <TomC> Kealper would I be able to see what your doing?
#3114 [12:22] <mib_2hr8c8> I MEAN 7
#3115 [12:22] <mib_2hr8c8> SORRY
#3116 [12:22] <xales> WHY ARE WE YELLING
#3117 [12:22] <mib_2hr8c8> sos
#3118 [12:22] <Kealper> TomC: yes, you would be able to watch your mouse move around on it's own on your screen lol
#3119 [12:22] <Shinato> is anyone elses launcher crashing when it tries to update?
#3120 [12:22] <xales> Shinato: nope
#3121 [12:22] <Shinato> hmm :(
#3122 [12:22] <TomC> how could I stop you if i realy wanted to?
#3123 [12:22] <xales> kendle: is there an error message or something?
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#3125 [12:22] <kendle> nope
#3126 [12:22] <mib_2hr8c8> do you want me to talk through what happened?
#3127 [12:22] <kendle> only no connection to the server
#3128 [12:22] <Kealper> TomC: you'd just close out of the program
#3129 [12:23] <xales> TomC: you could just click the "disconnect" button or close the program entirely
#3130 [12:23] <kendle> i already reinstalled the game
#3131 [12:23] <TomC> i would have control of the mouse too?
#3132 [12:23] <xales> yes
#3133 [12:23] <Kealper> TomC: but i wouldn't go anywhere on the computer that you didn't say i could
#3134 [12:23] <TomC> I would have control of the mouse though (too)
#3135 [12:23] <kendle> Can someone tell me what to do if minecraft dont work in Client anymore but on the Website? (I also already reinstalled it) and there is no err-code
#3136 [12:24] <Shinato> i have the error on pastbin is there anyone willing to give it a look and tell me wtf is going on?
#3137 [12:24] <Kealper> TomC: yes
#3138 [12:24] <kendle> It says : Cant connect to minecraft.net
#3139 [12:24] <TomC> ok then
#3140 [12:24] <mib_2hr8c8> Ok, i would like a refund please
#3141 [12:24] <Kealper> TomC: i'll PM you from here on
#3142 [12:24] <vcordie> Talk to support.
#3143 [12:24] <squib> does anyone know why minecraft worked before, but after a clean install it gives me an accelerated opengl error even though iv used the updated drivers?
#3144 [12:25] <Shinato> http://pastebin.com/Z4c27Uxs
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#3146 [12:25] <kendle> Xales do you know something thereß
#3147 [12:25] <xales> what?
#3148 [12:25] <Dez> hello when I try to load the game in browser the screen stays white?
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#3150 [12:26] <kendle> what i can do there to make it work again
#3151 [12:26] <mib_2hr8c8> SERIOUSLY NOW
#3152 [12:26] <gamakichi> hello
#3153 [12:26] <gamakichi> i need help
#3154 [12:26] <TomC> hi
#3155 [12:26] <Dez> Yeah?
#3156 [12:26] <squib> thanks for your help
#3157 [12:26] <Kealper> mib_2hr8c8: we are EXTREMELY overloaded right now, sorry if this is taking a while
#3158 [12:26] <Dez> Okay :L
#3159 [12:26] <Kealper> TomC: check in the top of your mibbit window, there should be a tab called Kealper
#3160 [12:26] <Kealper> xales: halp
#3161 [12:27] <gamakichi> i have a mac and im tryna play the multiplayer servers on my browser, when i click on a server just a black screen is there
#3162 [12:27] <Kealper> xales: i have to leave in a few
#3163 [12:27] <TomC> yea
#3164 [12:27] <mib_2hr8c8> dood i want a refund
#3165 [12:27] <xales> Kealper: :|
#3166 [12:27] <Kealper> TomC: go to it, i'll be talking to you from there now
#3167 [12:27] <Dez> Same Mib!
#3168 [12:27] <gamakichi> go to the servers?
#3169 [12:27] <mib_2hr8c8> thats all
#3170 [12:28] <Dez> I WANT A REFUND.
#3171 [12:28] <vcordie> You need to talk to mojang about refunds, we do not work for mojang
#3172 [12:28] <gamakichi> anyone have a mac?
#3173 [12:28] <kendle> mib_2hr8c8 there wont be a refund lol
#3174 [12:28] <Dez> Where can I find him?
#3175 [12:28] <mib_2hr8c8> i need 1
#3176 [12:28] <mib_2hr8c8> sirius
#3177 [12:28] <kendle> there will never be refunds
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#3179 [12:28] <Dez> This is a load of BS]
#3180 [12:29] <bezaban> almost all modern games require you to have a working opengl installation. Also, this is beta software, a fact that in no way has been witheld.
#3181 [12:29] <Shinato> lol its 15$ i spend that on weed in two days
#3182 [12:29] <Shinato> it isnt much
#3183 [12:29] <bezaban> :P
#3184 [12:29] <Shinato> so GTFO
#3185 [12:29] <VoxelHead> Day 497 09:30 AM: Patze_ is in the diary room, talking to Big Brother about quantum mechanics
#3186 [12:29] <gamakichi> i just bbought the game, but when i got to play the multiplayer servers its just a black screen.....
#3187 [12:29] <Dez> My screen just stays white when i play in browser
#3188 [12:29] <gamakichi> please help
#3189 [12:29] <gamakichi> same
#3190 [12:29] <xales> ??> gamakichi win/reinst
#3191 [12:29] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3192 [12:29] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3193 [12:29] <xales> Dez: then download it, or install Java properly?
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#3195 [12:30] <gamakichi> i have a mac
#3196 [12:30] <Dez> I cant dowload it, it crashes
#3197 [12:30] <mib_2hr8c8> LOOK, IM TIRED OF TRYING TO FIX IT SO ALL I WANT IS A REFUND IVE TRIED FIXING FOR HOURS
#3198 [12:30] <Dez> and link im on windows XP btw
#3199 [12:30] <xales> STOP YELLING :(
#3200 [12:30] <mib_2hr8c8> NO
#3201 [12:30] <gamakichi> wow
#3202 [12:30] * xales kicked mib_2hr8c8 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mib_2hr8c8)
#3203 [12:30] <Dez> gamakichi link?
#3204 [12:30] <xales> gamakichi:
#3205 [12:30] <xales> ??> gamakichi mac/reinst
#3206 [12:30] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3207 [12:30] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3209 [12:31] <xales> Dez - what graphics card do you have?
#3210 [12:31] <mib_2hr8c8> ehem
#3211 [12:31] <mib_2hr8c8> like i was saying
#3212 [12:31] <Dez> hang on
#3213 [12:31] <mib_2hr8c8> i neeeeeeeeed a refund
#3214 [12:31] <gamakichi> i wont delete my single player maps will i?
#3215 [12:31] <xales> gamakichi: the maps are in the 'saves' folder, so if you don't delete it, then you will still have them
#3216 [12:31] <xales> ??> mib_2hr8c8 account
#3217 [12:31] <VoxelHead> mib_2hr8c8: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#3218 [12:31] <VoxelHead> mib_2hr8c8: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#3219 [12:32] <Dez> ATI radeon 9600/9550/X1050 xales
#3220 [12:32] <xales> well yeah
#3221 [12:32] <xales> you can't reasonably expect any modern game to run on that
#3222 [12:32] <Dez> Ah why?
#3223 [12:32] <mib_2hr8c8> idk
#3224 [12:32] <xales> it's very, very old
#3225 [12:32] <mib_2hr8c8> i hate minecraft
#3226 [12:33] <Dez> Ah where can I get a new one? :/
#3227 [12:33] <xales> electronics/computer store
#3228 [12:33] <Dez> Any websites and recomendations
#3229 [12:34] <xales> newegg.com however, make sure the card fits the available slots on your computer (the newest ones probably will not)
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#3234 [12:34] <Brunost312> is anybody here?
#3235 [12:34] <Dez> ah :/ refund?
#3236 [12:34] <xales> also, if you have less than 1.5GB of RAM, you might want to look at just getting a new (desktop) computer - it would probably not cost that much more
#3237 [12:34] <Brunost312> can anybody help me?
#3238 [12:34] <xales> Brunost312: with?
#3239 [12:35] <mib_s9ytqd> i need help my minecraft main menu goes all funny (unreadable) all pinkish. any ideas ?
#3240 [12:35] <Dez> when can i find my RAM?
#3241 [12:35] <gamakichi> so i have to drag all minecraft folders into trash??
#3242 [12:35] <Brunost312> i jsut got minecraft updtated to 1.6
#3243 [12:35] <xales> Dez: Right click Computer and select Properties
#3244 [12:35] <xales> gamakichi: everything except saves
#3245 [12:35] <xales> mib_s9ytqd: Windows?
#3246 [12:35] <gamakichi> okk
#3247 [12:35] <Brunost312> and when i run minecraft the program jsut go black
#3248 [12:35] <mib_s9ytqd> yup
#3249 [12:35] <xales> ??> Brunost312 win/reinst
#3250 [12:35] <VoxelHead> Brunost312: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3251 [12:36] <VoxelHead> Brunost312: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3252 [12:36] <Dez> Then?
#3253 [12:36] <xales> mib_s9ytqd: follow the instructions that VoxelHead gave to Brunost312
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#3255 [12:36] <xales> Dez: when you click Properties, it will show you in that window how much RAM you have
#3256 [12:37] <gamakichi> everythings in the trash exept the little minecraft icon
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#3258 [12:37] <noddingGeek> How do I turn off auto update in the linux client so I can play on my multi player server? I've tried to just copy the old jar into ~/.minecraft/bin but when mc launches again it just sits at Updating Minecraft Done Loading
#3259 [12:37] <xales> noddingGeek: download the new launcher
#3260 [12:37] <mib_s9ytqd> Thanks voxel head im gonna try it
#3261 [12:37] <Jackson413> how stable is notch's latest creation?
#3262 [12:38] <xales> gamakichi: that..wasn't the instructions
#3263 [12:38] <Dez> D: I have 768 MB D:
#3264 [12:38] <Jackson413> will it make me wanna kill someone?
#3265 [12:38] <Shinato> yes
#3266 [12:38] <Shinato> sorry :(
#3267 [12:38] <xales> Dez: you should probably look into getting a new computer then, that's way too old to run _anything_ modern
#3268 [12:38] <Jackson413> or did he make something that is ok
#3269 [12:38] <Dez> Ah anyway I can get a refund?
#3270 [12:39] <xales> Dez: Mojang used to (they might still) offer refunds to people who can't get the game to work for technical reasons, if they request the refund within a week of purchasing it
#3271 [12:39] <xales> you can try emailing payment@mojang.com about that
#3272 [12:39] <gamakichi> well it still all works
#3273 [12:39] <Dez> Yeah I had it like 4 days
#3274 [12:39] <Dez> where can i find him?
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#3276 [12:40] <xales> Dez: the email address I just gave you
#3277 [12:40] <Jackson413> seriously though how is 1.6.6
#3278 [12:40] <Dez> Thanks
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#3280 [12:40] <gamakichi> my single player works, the only thing that doesnt work is the multiplayer on my internet browser :(
#3281 [12:40] <gamakichi> just a black screen
#3282 [12:40] <Jackson413> why would you ever play minecraft in your browser
#3283 [12:40] <xales> try playing multiplayer in the download client..?
#3284 [12:40] <Jackson413> modded stuff doesnt work usually in your browser
#3285 [12:41] <chris> ok guys need help please i just bought minecraft and when i run the launcher it goes all fuzzy and does not change any suggestions?
#3286 [12:41] <gamakichi> yea you know all the servers listed..
#3287 [12:41] <gamakichi> i wanna play thoes
#3288 [12:41] <Jackson413> lol arent those classic servers
#3289 [12:41] <gamakichi> on the minecraft icon there no multiplayer?
#3290 [12:41] <Dez> Thanks for the help.
#3291 [12:41] <mib_s9ytqd> im da same as chriss
#3292 [12:41] <gamakichi> it says there still working on it
#3293 [12:41] <mib_s9ytqd> guys deleting all but the save dont work 4 me
#3294 [12:41] <gamakichi> and evertime i put in a ip is say cant connect or something
#3295 [12:42] <chris> so anybody got a solution?
#3296 [12:42] <mib_s9ytqd> In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein = not working 4 me ?
#3297 [12:42] <gamakichi> i have a mac
#3298 [12:42] <Wug> gamakichi, follow the download instructions on the website.
#3299 [12:43] <Wug> www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
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#3301 [12:43] <xales> ??> mib_s9ytqd win/dxdiag
#3302 [12:43] <VoxelHead> mib_s9ytqd: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3303 [12:43] <VoxelHead> mib_s9ytqd: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3304 [12:43] <chris> i did and when i run the game it goes fuzzy...
#3305 [12:43] <xales> No, you didn't do that
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#3307 [12:43] <mib_s9ytqd> win key (im a noob)
#3308 [12:43] <mib_s9ytqd> ?
#3309 [12:44] <xales> The windows key between control and alt
#3310 [12:44] <froglegstew> i need help
#3311 [12:44] <Jackson413> the little thing that looks like a flag
#3312 [12:44] <Jackson413> froglegstew: whats up
#3313 [12:44] <froglegstew> i bought the game
#3314 [12:44] <gamakichi> i can play the launcher
#3315 [12:44] <Jackson413> thats good
#3316 [12:44] <chris> i downloaded it for winndows then i saved the file then i run the file then minecraft launcher appears and stays fuzzy...
#3317 [12:44] <gamakichi> ii just wanna know how to play online with other people..
#3318 [12:44] <xales> chris: try running it in your browser
#3319 [12:44] <froglegstew> and i havent got a email or anything like that
#3320 [12:44] <gamakichi> how do i play online with other people?
#3321 [12:44] <xales> gamakichi: you download it, you open it, and you click "multiplayer"
#3322 [12:45] <gamakichi> then i gotta put in a ip
#3323 [12:45] <xales> yes, then you find the IP of a server you want to play on
#3324 [12:45] <Jackson413> hmmm
#3325 [12:45] <xales> froglegstew: not all payment processors send emails
#3326 [12:45] <gamakichi> hmm all the ones ive done dont work
#3327 [12:45] <Jackson413> what do you mean fuzzy
#3328 [12:45] <gamakichi> anyone have 1 i can try?
#3329 [12:45] <gamakichi> an ip
#3330 [12:45] <Wug> try the reddit server
#3331 [12:45] <xales> gamakichi: s.nerd.nu
#3332 [12:45] <Jackson413> i havent seen that yet
#3333 [12:46] <gamakichi> whats that
#3334 [12:46] <froglegstew> i bought the game yesterday and i still havent got a email from minecraft and it says my account is regular not premium
#3335 [12:46] <xales> an IP for a server...
#3336 [12:46] <gamakichi> send me one?
#3337 [12:46] <Jackson413> in game name in minecraft?
#3338 [12:46] <chris> let me rephrase this... i have followed the instructions but the launcher is not working...
#3339 [12:46] <Wug> .............
#3340 [12:46] <Wug> gamakichi, connect to s.nerd.nu
#3341 [12:46] <froglegstew> ?
#3342 [12:46] <xales> chris: try playing it in your browser
#3343 [12:46] <xales> froglegstew: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
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#3345 [12:47] <chris> xales: how do i do that?
#3346 [12:47] <Jackson413> xales: why would anyone play minecraft in their browser anyway
#3347 [12:47] <xales> chris: http://minecraft.net/game/
#3348 [12:47] <Wug> go to minecraft.net?
#3349 [12:47] <Wug> drp
#3350 [12:47] <VoxelHead> We have no time for these games^*^**%percent~^~!£~.
#3351 [12:47] * Wug slaps VoxelHead
#3351 [12:47] <froglegstew> i did it like 10 pm yesterday and it is 10:47 am now
#3352 [12:47] <VoxelHead> Ow! that was my last bum ),:
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#3354 [12:48] <VoxelHead> i like them :)
#3355 [12:48] <Jackson413> im out for a bit
#3356 [12:48] <Wug> froglegstew, wait another day
#3357 [12:48] <xales> froglegstew: again, there is nothing that we or Mojang can to do help you
#3358 [12:48] <Wug> patience
#3359 [12:48] <froglegstew> kk bye
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#3361 [12:49] <mib_s9ytqd> Voxelhead i dont get a link when i paste onto paste bin
#3362 [12:50] <vcordie> VoxelHead is a bot, and the link is in your address bar
#3363 [12:50] <xales> mib_s9ytqd: you click submit, and then you copy the URL from your address bar
#3364 [12:50] <VoxelHead> LIES.
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#3366 [12:50] <mib_s9ytqd> how is he a bot ?
#3367 [12:50] <g> vox, shut up
#3368 [12:50] <VoxelHead> hai!
#3369 [12:51] * mib_08kdpi [mib_08kdpi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3370 [12:51] <xales> ??> mib_s9ytqd bot
#3371 [12:51] <VoxelHead> mib_s9ytqd: (bot) Yes, I'm a bot.
#3372 [12:51] <relsqui> hahaha
#3373 [12:51] <g> :P
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#3375 [12:51] <mib_s9ytqd> anyway where am i pasting the url
#3376 [12:52] <mib_s9ytqd> ?
#3377 [12:52] <xales> here
#3378 [12:52] <mib_s9ytqd> why ?
#3379 [12:52] <xales> uh, so we can look at the information you pasted?
#3380 [12:52] <oldtopman> DONT LISTEN TO XALES
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#3382 [12:52] <xales> why else would we tell you to do that..
#3383 [12:52] <mib_s9ytqd> oh http://pastebin.com/gai0e12F
#3384 [12:52] <oldtopman> This channel harvests pastebins for the kkk and the nazis
#3385 [12:53] <oldtopman> And obana is with them!
#3386 [12:53] <mib_s9ytqd> lol
#3387 [12:53] <oldtopman> obana =/= obama
#3388 [12:53] <oldtopman> obama was killed in maui to be replaced with obana
#3389 [12:53] <oldtopman> And you pasted it anyway
#3390 [12:53] <oldtopman> Why do I even try...
#3391 [12:54] <g> ~title
#3392 [12:54] <McPlusPlus> "------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: - Pastebin.com" (http://is.gd/OhKDfM)
#3393 [12:54] <xales> mib_s9ytqd: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/corrupt_and_funky_looking is that the problem you are having?
#3394 [12:54] <mib_s9ytqd> yes it is !
#3395 [12:55] <KriLL3> what can make all the wooden planks of a house vanish, but nothing else including the wooden stairs, fences etc?
#3396 [12:55] <oldtopman> Fire
#3397 [12:55] <mib_s9ytqd> what can i do xales ?
#3398 [12:56] <xales> mib_s9ytqd: exactly what it says there
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#3400 [12:56] <xales> "And have a NVIDIA card use the NVIDIA control panel and set the settings to performance, not high performance it seemed to fix this problem for me with a NVIDIA Geforce FX5200 card. I hope this helps. "
#3401 [12:56] <KriLL3> oldtopman: my own server, only me on it, and I didn't start no fiter
#3402 [12:56] <KriLL3> *fire
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#3405 [12:57] <noddingGeek> xales, Yeah downloaded the latest launcher
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#3407 [12:58] <mib_s9ytqd> so xales what exactly do i do (sorry for all the hassle
#3408 [12:59] <mib_s9ytqd> )?
#3409 [12:59] <xales> noddingGeek: the new launcher will give you an option to not update
#3410 [12:59] <xolotl> KriLL3: Check your logs to make sure nobody else did connect? I've had griefers stumble into mine in the past
#3411 [12:59] <xales> mib_s9ytqd: as it says, in the NVIDIA control panel, change the settings to performance instead of high performance
#3412 [12:59] <xolotl> KriLL3: Also I think some fire can be naturally-occurring now; doesn't lightning sometimes create fire now?
#3413 [13:00] <KriLL3> xolotl: logs says it's not been connected to
#3414 [13:00] <xolotl> (also also newly-generated terrain can include lava lakes right next to trees, which can start gigantic fires, though that would probably be more noticeable)
#3415 [13:03] <mib_s9ytqd> xales is still get the funky loading screen
#3416 [13:03] <mib_s9ytqd> *i
#3417 [13:05] <mib_s9ytqd> xales ?
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#3419 [13:07] <Blue> Been here Wug
#3420 [13:07] <mib_s9ytqd> any help ?
#3421 [13:08] <Wug> mention herobrine here blue, and xales will ban you before you can post again
#3422 [13:08] <Blue> Wug: Why would I do that?
#3423 [13:08] <Wug> idk, it seems to be your theme
#3424 [13:08] <Blue> No
#3425 [13:08] <Wug> we're not arguing here. go somewhere else
#3426 [13:08] <Blue> I'm just having fun trolling you
#3427 [13:08] <Blue> Because you somehow believe me
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#3430 [13:09] <Sacharias1> Hey :D
#3431 [13:09] <xales> Hi
#3432 [13:09] <Blue> heyo
#3433 [13:09] <bildramer> Blue, I wonder how the hell they didn't ban you within seconds
#3434 [13:09] <Blue> I know lol
#3435 [13:09] <Sacharias1> Do you know when i start minecraft i dont have a screen where i can pick wether to update or not?
#3436 [13:10] <Sacharias1> How can i fix that?
#3437 [13:10] <Blue> I could go in there asking a serious (but really really stupid) question and get banned faster :\
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#3439 [13:10] <xales> Sacharias1: Download the new launcher, or there are no updates
#3440 [13:10] * xales will be back later
#3440 [13:11] <Sacharias1> well it updates -.- even when i want to degrade it -.-
#3441 [13:11] <Blue> I taste like Fiji.
#3442 [13:11] <Sacharias1> it skips from login to update no screen where i can pick if i want to update or not
#3443 [13:11] <noddingGeek> xales, it doesn't... it auto updates.
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#3445 [13:12] <Sacharias1> then...
#3446 [13:13] <VoxelHead> Bye bobbym47.
#3447 [13:13] <Sacharias1> how come my friend has a screen if he wants to update?
#3448 [13:13] <Sacharias1> screen that says "Do you want to update (Not now) (Yes)"
#3449 [13:14] <KriLL3> Sacharias1: press maybe
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#3452 [13:15] <sammaelt> maybe because there was a new update a few hours ago? just guessing >_>
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#3454 [13:16] <g> Kealper: I'm in a devvin' mood!
#3455 [13:17] <g> "Oh, fuck, no"
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#3458 [13:18] <murdrums> Does anyone know if its actually possible to make a three way minetrack system using levers?
#3459 [13:21] <BasZZ> I've had an error lately, as I tried to update minecraft from 1.5 to the latest version it just didn't work anymore
#3460 [13:23] <vcordie> ping me if you need anything
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#3462 [13:26] <Blue> I can make a 4 way murdrums
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#3464 [13:30] <murdrums> Blue: I only need a three way
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#3467 [13:31] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go =(
#3468 [13:31] <murdrums> Although i guess i could use a four way eventually
#3469 [13:31] <murdrums> Blue: Come on my server and make it for me ;)
#3470 [13:31] <Blue> I'll post you a link instea
#3471 [13:31] <Blue> d
#3472 [13:31] <murdrums> Heh, thanks :)
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#3474 [13:36] <Blue> Cant find it
#3475 [13:36] <curmet> hi?
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#3477 [13:37] <curmet> my minecraft doesnt work on browser or exe, anyone know what to do?
#3478 [13:37] <curmet> it worked yesterday
#3479 [13:38] <curmet> hello?
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#3482 [13:39] <TsjuniMon> Anyone that can help me with this error: minecraft fatal error occurred (4): null
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#3484 [13:40] <curmet> anyone know how to stop the mc browser from white screening?
#3485 [13:40] <murdrums> dl the newest version of java
#3486 [13:41] <curmet> whats it called and do i have to delete the old version?
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#3488 [13:42] <murdrums> Version 6 Update 25
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#3490 [13:42] <curmet> ty :)
#3491 [13:43] <TsjuniMon> no one that can help me with the following error: minecraft fatal error occurred (4): null
#3492 [13:44] <mr_trousers> Why my computer screen goes black when I start playng the game?problem with directx?
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#3496 [13:44] <ace674> Hi, can you help me?
#3497 [13:44] <mib_wul78o> redet ihr deutsch ?
#3498 [13:45] <_303> manche
#3499 [13:45] <mib_wul78o> ah
#3500 [13:45] <mib_wul78o> weil bei mir java
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#3502 [13:45] <mib_wul78o> egentwie memorie
#3503 [13:45] <mib_wul78o> egentwas sagt
#3504 [13:45] <mib_wul78o> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError das sagt der immer
#3505 [13:46] <mib_wul78o> und ich würde wissen wie ich das endern kann
#3506 [13:46] <mib_wul78o> Hi,can you help me =?
#3507 [13:47] <mib_wul78o> wenn man fragen darf wer ist ein gm ?
#3508 [13:47] <mib_wul78o> kann mir einer bitte helfen ?
#3509 [13:48] <mib_wul78o> >.<
#3510 [13:48] <mib_wul78o> Helllo ?
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#3512 [13:49] <mib_wul78o> >.<
#3513 [13:50] <_303> mib_wul78o: he speaks german ^
#3514 [13:50] <mib_wul78o> ja
#3515 [13:50] <mib_wul78o> spreche ich =D
#3516 [13:51] <Morrolan> _303: Oh, I do?
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#3518 [13:51] <Morrolan> mib_wul78o: Was brauchst du denn?
#3519 [13:51] <_303> well you are swiss, good chance you speak german
#3520 [13:51] <_303> and you do
#3521 [13:51] <Morrolan> _303: Hmph, point taken.
#3522 [13:51] <mib_wul78o> pm ?
#3523 [13:52] <Morrolan> mib_wul78o: ok
#3524 [13:52] <curmet> i just downloaded it and STILL... minecraft refuses to work
#3525 [13:52] <curmet> i dont think its java
#3526 [13:53] <mib_wul78o> habe dir pms geschickt =)
#3527 [13:53] <curmet> anyone know how to stop it from white screening?
#3528 [13:54] <peru_> what i s'white screening'?
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#3530 [13:54] <curmet> browser version of minecraft
#3531 [13:55] <Cooleo> Can anyone help? I just got a minecraft server, built some things but I placed some blocks in the wrong place and can't get rid of them by left clicking. What do I do?
#3532 [13:55] <Morrolan> Cooleo: You do keep on clicking, right?
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#3534 [13:55] <Cooleo> Yup
#3535 [13:55] <VoxelHead> bye _303
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#3537 [13:55] <Cooleo> Its an iron door thing which makes it open the door
#3538 [13:55] <Morrolan> Ok. Are these blocks near spawn by any chance.
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#3540 [13:56] <Cooleo> Nope
#3541 [13:56] <Cooleo> How many times am I meant to left click? I tried 10
#3542 [13:56] <Dunkan199> hello, do someone know why i cant pay for minecraft? I'm using VISA and i get this error message everytime I try to buy "hello, do someone know why i cant pay for minecraft? I got this error message when trying to pay "You have entered invalid payment instrument details. Please check and try again."
#3543 [13:56] <peru_> keep that mouse button pressed for few seconds
#3544 [13:57] <Morrolan> Cooleo: What peru_ said.
#3545 [13:57] <Cooleo> That's done it! Thanks :D
#3546 [13:57] <Morrolan> You don't need to click several times, but keep the button pressed. :)
#3547 [13:57] <Cooleo> Easy :D Time to make my lair
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#3550 [13:58] <Morrolan> Ok, everyone who might have an idea: What could cause a java.lang.OutOfMemoryError exception?
#3551 [13:58] <vcordie> Big explosions
#3552 [13:58] <vcordie> lots of fire
#3553 [13:58] <vcordie> lots of chunk updates at the same time
#3554 [13:59] <vcordie> big flashy effects
#3555 [13:59] <unh20050> in IRC chat how do u make it so the person gets an alert
#3556 [13:59] <unh20050> like unh20050 (message) do you just type their name?
#3557 [13:59] * mib_uhsw5c [mib_uhsw5c@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3558 [13:59] <Morrolan> unh20050: Depends. SOme people have set their client so it beeps/flashes when their name gets mentioned.
#3559 [13:59] <mib_uhsw5c> hello
#3560 [13:59] <vcordie> you can also query them
#3561 [13:59] <vcordie> use /query nick
#3562 [14:00] <vcordie> to create a query window
#3563 [14:00] <vcordie> then you can talk to them in that private window
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#3565 [14:00] <Morrolan> hey mib_uhsw5c
#3566 [14:00] <Morrolan> unh20050: Yeah, what vcordie said works too. Many people prefer not to get pm'ed though.
#3567 [14:00] <unh20050> but like you just did
#3568 [14:01] <unh20050> did you just type my name? or what?
#3569 [14:01] <mib_uhsw5c> my minecraft is not complit dowenload but I can play it whats wrong
#3570 [14:01] <Morrolan> unh20050: Well, if it's beeping or something then that's your client.
#3571 [14:01] <Morrolan> There is no default way IRC allows for highlighting.
#3572 [14:01] <unh20050> so like this........
#3573 [14:01] <unh20050> Morrolan Test
#3574 [14:01] <unh20050> nope
#3575 [14:01] <Morrolan> mib_uhsw5c: Well, if it works then I wouldn't complaing.
#3576 [14:01] <Morrolan> unh20050: Now my client was beeping.
#3577 [14:01] <vcordie> Unh: he pinged.
#3578 [14:02] <unh20050> oh so that works?
#3579 [14:02] <unh20050> Morrolan: test
#3580 [14:02] <unh20050> which is better?
#3581 [14:02] <VoxelHead> i like them =]
#3582 [14:02] <Morrolan> unh20050: Again, it depends on whether the person in question has set up an notification.
#3583 [14:02] <unh20050> ok
#3584 [14:02] <unh20050> did both beep for you?
#3585 [14:02] <Morrolan> vcordie: Back to that error. It does happen out of the blue, nothing like lots of TNT or whatever.
#3586 [14:02] <Morrolan> unh20050: Yep.
#3587 [14:03] <xales> Morrolan: Java issues probably
#3588 [14:03] <xales> or, y'know, it's just running out of memory for whatever reason :P
#3589 [14:03] <Morrolan> xales: Hmm, so shall I advise that guy to reinstall Java?
#3590 [14:03] <vcordie> Morrolan: Hasn't popped up for me except when I'm blowing shit up
#3591 [14:03] <vcordie> also, I think you would hit that error eventually no matter what
#3592 [14:03] <vcordie> since minecraft is very leaky
#3593 [14:03] <Morrolan> xales: Well, it does appear out of the blue, like seconds after starting Minecraft.
#3594 [14:03] <vcordie> Where did notch say he was going?
#3595 [14:03] <Morrolan> E3
#3596 [14:04] <vcordie> Track him down there, and force teach him how to use java garbage disposal. >_>
#3597 [14:04] <Morrolan> xales: Oh, and he already reinstalled Java he said.
#3598 [14:04] <xales> Morrolan: 64-bit Java, if on a 64-bit system?
#3599 [14:04] <Morrolan> vcordie: Heh, you're not the first one to say so.
#3600 [14:04] <xales> vcordie: it's not a problem with Minecraft
#3601 [14:04] <xales> it's a problem with Java itself
#3602 [14:04] <vcordie> Yeah
#3603 [14:05] <vcordie> JGD sucks
#3604 [14:05] <vcordie> but it can work if you use it properly.
#3605 [14:05] <VoxelHead> jgd = clit-pump
#3606 [14:05] <vcordie> and notch isn't.
#3607 [14:05] <xales> LOL
#3608 [14:05] <xales> anyway
#3609 [14:05] <xales> it's not garbage disposal that is the issue either
#3610 [14:05] <xales> it's just the implementation itself
#3611 [14:05] <vcordie> Entire language is a hack >_>
#3612 [14:05] <Morrolan> Xales: 32 bit system + java
#3613 [14:07] <xales> Morrolan: how much RAM does it have?
#3614 [14:07] <Morrolan> 2 gb
#3615 [14:08] <xales> XP or Vista/7?
#3616 [14:08] <mib_wul78o> vista
#3617 [14:09] <xales> mib_wul78o: are you the person Morrolan is helping?
#3618 [14:09] <Morrolan> xales: Yeah, he is.
#3619 [14:09] <xales> That's the problem right there
#3620 [14:09] <xales> the error is exactly what is happening: it doesn't have enough memory
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#3623 [14:10] <Morrolan> xales: Uhm, so 2GB aren't enough?
#3624 [14:10] <xales> Morrolan: Not with Vista :)
#3625 [14:10] <Morrolan> xales: Ugh.
#3626 [14:10] <xales> I mean, it should work decently if nothing else is open
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#3628 [14:11] <Morrolan> Ah, explains why I never had issues with my 2GB vista PC, maybe his is clustered with all sorts of stuff.
#3629 [14:11] <Lish> maaaan. I hate having a giant flat island to work with and no ideas for it. :x
#3630 [14:12] <Toste> Help! I am 12 yrs old and I just bought the game, installed it on my Mac. I can walk around but I cannot build anything. The commands for the mouse don't work. Advice?!
#3631 [14:12] <Blue> lol
#3632 [14:12] <Morrolan> Toste: Like, your mouse doesn't work at atll?
#3633 [14:12] <Blue> This is why I love minecraft
#3634 [14:12] <Morrolan> all*
#3635 [14:12] <Morrolan> Or just that you can't brake blocks?
#3636 [14:12] <Morrolan> break*
#3637 [14:13] <Toste> It works except for the *building*. Yes I can break blocks.
#3638 [14:13] <Blue> Toste: what kind of mouse do you have? Dual button or single button?
#3639 [14:13] <Morrolan> Toste: Oh, I see your problem. :D
#3640 [14:13] <Blue> Also you type like a boss.
#3641 [14:13] <Toste> Single button (Apple)
#3642 [14:13] <Morrolan> One button mouse, and rightclick not working? ^^
#3643 [14:13] <Morrolan> Can't you just enable it?
#3644 [14:13] <Morrolan> With the newer mice, that is.
#3645 [14:13] <Blue> I think you'll need a different mouse :P
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#3647 [14:14] <Morrolan> Xales: Hmm, only thing he has open is Minecraft he says, so I guess we can't do much. Thanks anyway.
#3648 [14:14] <Toste> My Mom is typing... She is not very technical.
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#3650 [14:15] <Morrolan> Oh well, we understood what you mean, so we surely won't complain. ;)
#3651 [14:15] * Morrolan likes slapping people and randomly picks Blue to slap.
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#3653 [14:15] <Blue> Anyways
#3654 [14:15] <Blue> I don't have a mac or use a mac
#3655 [14:15] <Morrolan> Toste: Don't you have any other mouse you could play with?
#3656 [14:15] <Blue> But you might have to invest in a new mouse, or find one around the house.
#3657 [14:15] <Morrolan> Respectively, aren't you able to activate right click?
#3658 [14:16] <Morrolan> I think the new mac mouses (mice?) allow for left and right click, even though they're one button mice. Should be somewhere in the system settings.
#3659 [14:16] <Blue> Let me google it one sec
#3660 [14:17] <Morrolan> http://gigaom.com/apple/mac-101-enable-right-click-on-macs/
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#3663 [14:17] <Morrolan> Toste: Try doing what this link suggests. ^
#3664 [14:17] <Blue> or Morrolan can just steal my thunder :(
#3665 [14:17] * Morrolan pats Blue
#3665 [14:17] <Blue> It's not okay :(
#3666 [14:17] <Morrolan> :(
#3667 [14:17] <Morrolan> Vox, give Blue a hug.
#3668 [14:17] <VoxelHead> cheer up Morrolan
#3669 [14:18] <VoxelHead> *hugs*
#3670 [14:18] <mib_xjyldp> i got a problem running minecraft right now can you help me D:
#3671 [14:18] * VoxelHead squeezes blue
#3671 [14:18] * Blue dead.
#3671 [14:18] <Morrolan> mib_xjyldp: Define "problem" please.
#3672 [14:18] <Toste> The mouse is a new Mac. I will try the link, thank you so much.
#3673 [14:18] <Morrolan> Blue: ^^
#3674 [14:18] <Morrolan> Toste: Sure thing. :)
#3675 [14:18] <mib_xjyldp> whenever i run the game on download it updates and then crashes
#3676 [14:18] <Blue> Toste: Good luck and have fun!
#3677 [14:18] <mib_xjyldp> even when i dont update
#3678 [14:18] <Morrolan> mib_xjyldp, windows?
#3679 [14:18] <mib_xjyldp> i got windows 7
#3680 [14:18] <Morrolan> ??> mib_xjyldp win/reinst
#3681 [14:18] <VoxelHead> mib_xjyldp: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3682 [14:18] <VoxelHead> mib_xjyldp: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3683 [14:19] <Morrolan> Follow these instructions. ^
#3684 [14:19] <Blue> Morrolan: Where do I know you from
#3685 [14:19] <Morrolan> As for me, afk for a while. If this won't fix it yet someone else will take care of you.
#3686 [14:19] <Morrolan> Blue: #rsw I guess.
#3687 [14:19] <Blue> Ah yes
#3688 [14:20] <vcordie> ugh, its blue.
#3689 [14:20] <Blue> What?
#3690 [14:20] <vcordie> I dislike you.
#3691 [14:20] <Blue> I don't care!
#3692 [14:21] <mib_xjyldp> there i deleted everything but saves so now i will reinstall it
#3693 [14:23] <mib_xjyldp> thank you it worked :D
#3694 [14:24] <mib_xjyldp> bye
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#3697 [14:25] <minecraftftw> hellp
#3698 [14:25] <minecraftftw> *hello
#3699 [14:25] <xales> Hi.
#3700 [14:25] <minecraftftw> can somebody help me?
#3701 [14:26] <KriLL3> no
#3702 [14:26] <xales> Only if you say what the problem is.
#3703 [14:26] <xales> We can't read minds.
#3704 [14:26] <xales> D:
#3705 [14:26] <KriLL3> xales: speak for yourself
#3706 [14:26] <Cooleo> Heh turns out lava kills you
#3707 [14:26] <KriLL3> Cooleo: does in reality as well
#3708 [14:27] <Cooleo> :O
#3709 [14:27] <VoxelHead> cor
#3710 [14:27] <Cooleo> I built down into a cave, and there was water and it dragged me into lava o.0
#3711 [14:27] <minecraftftw> when i downloaded minecraft it keep giving me bad video card error but when i go on browser it dont
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#3713 [14:27] <xales> Then you have an old video card that isn't capable of running the Minecraft download
#3714 [14:28] <minecraftftw> it worked before update
#3715 [14:28] <Toste> MORROLAN: You are a wonderful person who saved our evening. We have been trying for 2 days now and Toste almost cried. All his friends played and our Mac didnt work -Now thanks to you IT WORKS!!! We followed the link and it was just to change the Mouse from Primary Button to Secondary Button in the System. So happy! // Toste's Mom
#3716 [14:29] <vcordie> Lol.
#3717 [14:29] <Morrolan> Toste: Heh, you're welcome. :)
#3718 [14:29] <relsqui> aww
#3719 [14:29] <vcordie> *Every teenager in the room goes LAAAAME*
#3720 [14:29] <vcordie> >_>
#3721 [14:29] <vcordie> I'm just joking around
#3722 [14:29] <vcordie> Also, it may be my client but how did you do that
#3723 [14:30] <Cooleo> Arg, I died now I cant find where I was building :(
#3724 [14:30] <Morrolan> Hmm? Oh, that was "/notice vcordie msghere"
#3725 [14:30] <vcordie> a notice, oh, kk
#3726 [14:30] <vcordie> now I know what that is.
#3727 [14:30] <mib_0dehuv> i have downloaded it i think but when i try to play it, it comes up an error how could i play minecraft
#3728 [14:31] <xales> ?? error
#3729 [14:31] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#3730 [14:31] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#3731 [14:32] <mib_0dehuv> a type of error this what it says "pixel format not accelerated"
#3732 [14:32] <xales> Update your video card drivers
#3733 [14:32] <mib_0dehuv> how do i that
#3734 [14:33] <Morrolan> Xales: That guy with the outofmemoryexception was able to fix it by using the .jar version of the launcher it seems.
#3735 [14:33] <Morrolan> with xms=512 and xmx=1024
#3736 [14:33] <xales> mib_0dehuv: Do you know what video card you have?
#3737 [14:33] <Morrolan> Won't really help the performance, but it semms to work now.
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#3739 [14:34] <Cooleo> Is there anyway I can find where I was building?
#3740 [14:34] <xales> Cooleo: A map editor, possibly
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#3742 [14:35] <Cooleo> :/
#3743 [14:35] <Cooleo> Can anyone link those blocks back to me? Or can I start building again elsewhere?
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#3751 [14:48] <lartza> Furnaces crash SMP!? :/
#3752 [14:49] <g> ~quit
#3753 [14:49] <lartza> Placing items inside
#3754 [14:49] <squib> hi, iv heard loads of differnet answers to this question so i am hoping you can help me
#3755 [14:49] <squib> what version of opengl does minecraft use?
#3756 [14:49] <Blue> 1.3
#3757 [14:49] * KriLL3 looks at his OpenGL3.0 capable card
#3757 [14:49] <squib> ok, thankyou
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#3759 [14:49] <xales> squib: it _requires_ 1.3
#3760 [14:50] <xales> it will use the latest available version
#3761 [14:50] <McPlusPlus> Parsed feeds. 9 working (7 normal, 2 reversed), and 1 broken.
#3762 [14:50] <xales> AFAIK
#3763 [14:50] <squib> has it always used 1.3 or did it used to be 1.1?
#3764 [14:50] <xales> I am fairly certain always 1.3
#3765 [14:50] <lartza> Was just gonna say doesn't it get some extra features atleast with mods with newer opengl?
#3766 [14:50] <xales> possibly not
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#3768 [14:50] <squib> cheers
#3769 [14:50] <gulldrot> We just bought MineCraft. We downloadet the game. When we pressed 'Run-button', -the screen went totally black. Nothing more happened. What is wrong?
#3770 [14:50] <VoxelHead> cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers
#3771 [14:50] <g> vox, shut up
#3772 [14:50] <VoxelHead> bah
#3773 [14:51] <xales> ??> gulldrot win/reinst
#3774 [14:51] <VoxelHead> gulldrot: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3775 [14:51] <VoxelHead> gulldrot: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3776 [14:51] <lartza> can you get a seed from generated level? level.dat?
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#3779 [14:53] <gulldrot> Thanx a bunch!!! VoxelHead
#3780 [14:54] <joe_fsas_1993> hey, iv downloaded a texture pack for the game and it wont let me access the menu anymore, i've tried deleting the file but it wont work... any help much appreciated
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#3782 [14:54] <sparr> I'm having graphics stutter problems since upgrading from 1.4 to 1.6: http://i.imgur.com/xfpa4.png
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#3784 [14:57] <xales> ??> joe_fsas_1993 win/reinst
#3785 [14:57] <VoxelHead> joe_fsas_1993: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3786 [14:57] <VoxelHead> joe_fsas_1993: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3787 [14:57] <xales> sparr: update to 1.6.6, turn down graphics settings
#3788 [14:58] <joe_fsas_1993> right iv tried it and it wont let me, ill find the message and paste it in
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#3790 [14:58] <sparr> xales: they are down as low as they can go, and i've upgraded since taking that screenshot
#3791 [14:59] <joe_fsas_1993> haha it worked thi time round, thanks very much
#3792 [15:00] <xales> ??> sparr linux/reinst
#3793 [15:00] <VoxelHead> sparr: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3794 [15:00] <VoxelHead> sparr: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#3795 [15:00] <sparr> sure, that's easy
#3796 [15:01] * sparr redownloads
#3796 [15:01] <Coll> uh guys I have a problem with my map in smp
#3797 [15:02] <joe_fsas_1993> shit its deleted my maps :/
#3798 [15:02] <KriLL3> lrn2backup
#3799 [15:03] <xales> joe_fsas_1993: you didn't follow the instructions, then
#3800 [15:03] <joe_fsas_1993> i selected all but the saves, is there anyway i can get them back?
#3801 [15:03] <sparr> problem persists after deleting bin/ and letting the patcher redownload everything
#3802 [15:04] <xales> joe_fsas_1993: restore them from recyclebin or something
#3803 [15:04] <FatKid> ok so i havnt been able to play minecraft for a while... i start up the shortcut and i log in but i just see the dirt like it it shows for the main menu and eventually it goes black... i gte an error meessage but i cant scroll down to see what it says
#3804 [15:04] <xales> sparr: are you using the correct graphics driver?
#3805 [15:04] <xales> ??> FatKid win/reinst
#3806 [15:04] <VoxelHead> FatKid: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3807 [15:04] <VoxelHead> FatKid: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3809 [15:04] <Coll> anyone help with my map problem?
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#3811 [15:05] <sparr> xales: I think so. All of my other 3d-heavy games work fine. Minecraft worked fine in v1.4
#3812 [15:05] <xolotl> Coll: Only if you actually tell us what the problem is
#3813 [15:05] <Coll> ok basicly
#3814 [15:05] <joe_fsas_1993> i found where they were backed up thank god
#3815 [15:05] <Coll> when I made this map
#3816 [15:05] <mib_560q1v> On my Mac, Minecraft will not start at all!!!! can anyone help?
#3817 [15:05] <VoxelHead> Great Scott!
#3818 [15:05] <Coll> it said Map_14
#3819 [15:05] <xales> sparr: you could try this...
#3820 [15:05] <Coll> it was empty
#3821 [15:05] <sparr> Miclee: try running it from a terminal and see what happens
#3822 [15:05] <Coll> even when I moved around
#3823 [15:05] <xales> ??> sparr java/linux/debian
#3824 [15:05] <VoxelHead> sparr: (java/linux/debian) While OpenJDK is reported to work just fine, you probably want to install the Oracle JRE, which is in the sun-java6-jre package
#3825 [15:05] <Miclee> Who what where
#3826 [15:05] <VoxelHead> sparr: (java/linux/debian) To install it, `sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre && sudo update-alternatives --config java`
#3827 [15:06] <Coll> when I right clicked it it changed to Map_18 and it started recording stuff
#3828 [15:06] <xales> ??> mib_560q1v mac/permissions
#3829 [15:06] <VoxelHead> mib_560q1v: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#3830 [15:06] <VoxelHead> mib_560q1v: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#3831 [15:06] <mib_560q1v> On my Mac, Minecraft will not start at all!!!! can anyone help?
#3832 [15:06] <Miclee> sparr, I do believe you incorrectly pinged me.
#3833 [15:06] <Coll> problem is it is recording stuff in a very spotty manner and sometimes not even recording other stuff
#3834 [15:06] <xolotl> Coll: ... recording stuff?
#3835 [15:06] <xales> mib_560q1v: Voxelhead just told you how to fix it
#3836 [15:06] <sparr> Miclee: sorry
#3837 [15:06] <mib_560q1v> On my Mac, Minecraft will not start at all!!!! can anyone help?
#3838 [15:06] <sparr> mib_560q1v: try running it from a terminal and see what happens
#3839 [15:06] <mib_560q1v> On my Mac, Minecraft will not start at all!!!! can anyone help?
#3840 [15:06] <xolotl> Coll: Are you using mods/editors/whatever?
#3841 [15:06] <Coll> no
#3842 [15:06] <peeves> Why does it say that I need to use moneybookers when I try to buy the game?
#3843 [15:06] <sparr> mib_560q1v: stop repeating
#3844 [15:06] * xales kicked mib_560q1v from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Holy shit learn to fucking read)
#3845 [15:07] <sparr> xales: thanks, I didn't notice that I lost the sun jdk
#3846 [15:07] <xales> peeves: it doesn't say that?
#3847 [15:07] <xolotl> Coll: What do you mean by "recording stuff?" And where is it saying "Map_14," and what are you right-clicking on?
#3848 [15:07] <xolotl> Coll: None of that sounds like Minecraft
#3849 [15:07] <sparr> xales: I have sooo many JREs installed
#3850 [15:07] <Coll> what
#3851 [15:07] <Coll> do you even have the update?
#3852 [15:07] <Coll> we have MAPS
#3853 [15:07] <Coll> when you have it out
#3854 [15:07] <Coll> it records the area as you move through it
#3855 [15:07] <sparr> plenty of java games that work with sun 1.5 but not sun 1.6, or with openjdk but not sun, or vice versa
#3856 [15:07] <xolotl> Coll: Oh oh, MAPS.
#3857 [15:08] <xolotl> Coll: Heh, sorry; I thought you meant "worlds"
#3858 [15:08] <Coll> O_o;
#3859 [15:08] <xolotl> Coll: I've been ignoring ingame maps since they don't really provide much benefit to me, and sort of forgot they exist. I'll shut up. :)
#3860 [15:08] <Coll> that sorta do if you get lost in your area like me
#3861 [15:08] <Coll> since much of the place is a forest
#3862 [15:09] <xolotl> Yeah, dig.
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#3864 [15:09] <peeves> When I select another type of payment it still says that I need to use moneybookers after I have wrítten all of my card info. Does anyone know why that is?
#3865 [15:11] <xales> peeves: If it says you need to use that, then use it I guess?
#3866 [15:11] <peeves> Well. Since I do not want to use that and there clearly is other options, why should I use it?
#3867 [15:12] <peeves> I don't want to open a moneybookers account..
#3868 [15:12] <xales> We don't know. We aren't affiliated whatsoever with Mojang, and in turn, they do not run the payment processors
#3869 [15:13] <peeves> Well, that sucks....
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#3877 [15:16] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go =O.
#3878 [15:17] <shakarun> i have a problem
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#3880 [15:18] <VoxelHead> pop
#3881 [15:18] <xales> Obviously.
#3882 [15:18] <xales> Care to tell us what that is, or do you just want to announce that to the world?
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#3884 [15:18] <shakarun> i want to go on my fried's channel and everytime i connect it says connection error: end of stream
#3885 [15:19] <shakarun> fy friends server i mean
#3886 [15:20] <shakarun> i've tried everything: restart my computer, reconnect my internet, restart minecraft, notting works
#3887 [15:20] <xales> Your userdata on the server is corrupt
#3888 [15:20] <xales> have your friend delete world/players/yourname.dat
#3889 [15:20] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :xales: add a factoid :P
#3890 [15:21] <xales> lukegb: no you
#3891 [15:21] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :?? xales/sucks
#3892 [15:21] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp ::(
#3893 [15:21] * VoxelHead downloads some porn for lukegb
#3893 [15:21] <Kealper> ^
#3894 [15:21] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :?? voxelhead/stfu
#3895 [15:21] <Kealper> afk to see if i can fit my fatrolls into dress clothes
#3896 [15:22] <Kealper> (i'm not actually that fat, just sayin')
#3897 [15:22] <shakarun> ok
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#3899 [15:27] <Cooleo> Theres some purple/black block near some lava, what is it?
#3900 [15:28] <VoxelHead> master?
#3901 [15:28] <Cooleo> Possibly Obsidian
#3902 [15:28] <VoxelHead> I like them :-)
#3903 [15:29] <Cooleo> You can't mine through them can you?
#3904 [15:30] <Cooleo> Lava is no match for my water >:D
#3905 [15:31] * mib_ybak1t [mib_ybak1t@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3906 [15:32] <mib_ybak1t> what are the specifications
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#3908 [15:33] <squib> can you guys help me, i keep getting this error:
#3909 [15:33] <squib> http://mibpaste.com/7EO1v1
#3910 [15:33] <McPlusPlus> "Mibpaste.bin" at mibpaste.com
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#3913 [15:34] <thehappyhobo> hey my mates mc wont run download on his sony vaio
#3914 [15:34] <thehappyhobo> any suggestions
#3915 [15:34] <mib_ybak1t> what are the specs
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#3917 [15:34] <thehappyhobo> emmm
#3918 [15:34] <thehappyhobo> give me a mo
#3919 [15:35] <Crash> I can't get onto Minecraft Beta Multiplayer
#3920 [15:35] <Crash> Sucks...
#3921 [15:35] <thehappyhobo> wait he is joining
#3922 [15:35] <thehappyhobo> the chat
#3923 [15:35] <thehappyhobo> what a noob
#3924 [15:35] <mib_yw5gh1> sony vaio
#3925 [15:35] <thehappyhobo> herro
#3926 [15:35] <Crash> It says connection timed out
#3927 [15:36] * mib_ul8ps7 [mib_ul8ps7@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3928 [15:36] <mib_ul8ps7> Notch here ???
#3929 [15:36] <thehappyhobo> eem is it a private server crash?
#3930 [15:36] <Crash> Nope
#3931 [15:36] <mib_ul8ps7> Is Notch in the Chanel ??
#3932 [15:36] <thehappyhobo> did u buy the server
#3933 [15:36] <Crash> I've NEVER been able to get onto a multiplayer beta server..
#3934 [15:36] <Crash> Nah
#3935 [15:36] <thehappyhobo> hmmm
#3936 [15:36] <mib_ybak1t> can someone tell me how much memory mine craft takes please
#3937 [15:36] <Crash> I just wanna join someone
#3938 [15:36] <mib_ul8ps7> t
#3939 [15:36] <mib_ul8ps7> Speak were german ?
#3940 [15:37] <Crash> Build something..
#3941 [15:37] <thehappyhobo> i have a server going but you could be a greifer ;)
#3942 [15:37] <mib_yw5gh1> what file do you use to open the minecraft launcher?
#3943 [15:37] <Crash> I aint
#3944 [15:37] <Crash> I hate griefers.
#3945 [15:37] <VoxelHead> bye mib_ul8ps7
#3946 [15:37] <Crash> In 0.30 I made these huge castles
#3947 [15:37] <Crash> They were always griefed
#3948 [15:37] <thehappyhobo> gutted
#3949 [15:38] <thehappyhobo> srry mate i cant trust you with its ip
#3950 [15:38] <Crash> I made a cit
#3951 [15:38] <Crash> *city
#3952 [15:38] <Crash> It had roads and skyscrappers
#3953 [15:38] <mib_ybak1t> cool
#3954 [15:39] <Kealper> i guess i'm here for a few minutes
#3955 [15:39] <thehappyhobo> what i would recomend crash is to get some mates and buy a server, they have no lag at all
#3956 [15:39] <Kealper> whoever needs help: speak up now or forever hold your peace
#3957 [15:39] <Kealper> peice*?
#3958 [15:39] <Crash> Peice of cake? :P
#3959 [15:39] <thehappyhobo> my mate needs help
#3960 [15:39] <mib_yw5gh1> i need help!!!
#3961 [15:39] <Kealper> that guy?
#3962 [15:39] <mib_ybak1t> how much memory does mine craft take
#3963 [15:39] <thehappyhobo> him that on
#3964 [15:39] <Crash> I think we all need help..
#3965 [15:39] <thehappyhobo> not much
#3966 [15:40] <Crash> This is a help chat XD
#3967 [15:40] <thehappyhobo> i dont :)
#3968 [15:40] <mib_yw5gh1> what file can you use to open the minecrafte launcher?
#3969 [15:40] <Kealper> you two with the mib_ names, change them now please....that will be super confusing
#3970 [15:40] <xolotl> mib_ybak1t: It'll allocate a gig, I believe. You can specify the memory parameters manually if you use the .jar version
#3971 [15:40] <Kealper> "/nick newnamehere" without quotes
#3972 [15:40] <Kealper> and yes, by default, Minecraft needs 1GB of ram to itself
#3973 [15:40] <Crash> .
#3974 [15:40] <Kealper> so your computer should have around 1.5-2GB of ram
#3975 [15:41] <Crash> I've downloaded a shittoonne of stuff for minecraft
#3976 [15:41] <Crash> About %5 works of me XD
#3977 [15:41] <mib_yw5gh1> what file can open the minecraft launcher????
#3978 [15:41] <mib_yw5gh1> it wont download
#3979 [15:41] <Crash> INVedit, Beta single player and WoM singleplayer
#3980 [15:41] <Crash> And version setter
#3981 [15:41] <Crash> What ever it's called
#3982 [15:42] <mib_ybak1t> thanks Kealper
#3983 [15:42] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: is it just called "Minecraft" with a blank white icon?
#3984 [15:42] <Kealper> Crash: so....what was your problem then? lol
#3985 [15:42] <thehappyhobo> his comp says that it needs a progrm to run it?
#3986 [15:43] <Crash> I cant get onto Beta multiplayer
#3987 [15:43] <mib_yw5gh1> yes
#3988 [15:43] <mib_ybak1t> bye
#3989 [15:43] <Kealper> Crash: ok, what does it tell you when you try?
#3990 [15:43] <mib_yw5gh1> it says it needs a program to run it
#3991 [15:43] <Crash> It says Connection timed out
#3992 [15:43] <mib_yw5gh1> any help?
#3993 [15:43] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: ok, rename it to "Minecraft.exe"
#3994 [15:43] <mib_yw5gh1> then what?
#3995 [15:43] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: and do you use Internet Explorer and Norton antivirus?
#3996 [15:44] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: just run it after that
#3997 [15:44] <Crash> What should I do Kealper?
#3998 [15:44] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: it's icon should change to a dirt block
#3999 [15:44] <Kealper> Crash: does it say it for all servers you try to join?
#4000 [15:44] <Crash> Yeah
#4001 [15:44] <mib_yw5gh1> i dont use norton
#4002 [15:44] <mib_yw5gh1> its shit
#4003 [15:44] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: :P
#4004 [15:44] <Kealper> Crash: hmm...but you can play single player just fine?
#4005 [15:45] <mib_yw5gh1> but i do use internet explorer
#4006 [15:45] <Crash> Yup
#4007 [15:45] <Kealper> Crash: do you have any antivirus installed?
#4008 [15:45] <Crash> Yup
#4009 [15:45] <thehappyhobo> im lost mib_yw5gh1 please explain your problem fully
#4010 [15:45] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: that might have been what did it....some how when you downloaded Minecraft.exe, it cut the .exe off when it saved it
#4011 [15:45] <Kealper> thehappyhobo: i got it, i know what his issue is
#4012 [15:45] <Crash> I have a wolf on my single player
#4013 [15:45] <thehappyhobo> i know
#4014 [15:45] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: did renaming it to add the .exe on work?
#4015 [15:45] <thehappyhobo> im chatting with mib_yw5gh1 on skype ;)
#4016 [15:45] <mib_yw5gh1> iv added the exe part and it still doesnt work
#4017 [15:46] <Kealper> thehappyhobo: his browser didn't add the .exe on to it when he downloaded it
#4018 [15:46] <thehappyhobo> wow crash please stop spamming
#4019 [15:46] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: do you have any antivirus software installed?
#4020 [15:46] <thehappyhobo> this is for help not statements
#4021 [15:46] <mib_yw5gh1> no i dont
#4022 [15:46] <Kealper> thehappyhobo: he isn't spamming ._.
#4023 [15:46] <thehappyhobo> 0.0
#4024 [15:46] <Kealper> Crash: hmm...
#4025 [15:46] <Crash> I hate problems..
#4026 [15:47] <Kealper> Crash: i live for them D:
#4027 [15:47] <Crash> lol
#4028 [15:47] <Kealper> Crash: what version of the beta client do you have? 1.6.5?
#4029 [15:47] <Crash> Yeah
#4030 [15:47] <Crash> I can change
#4031 [15:47] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: the icon is still white for that fire?
#4032 [15:47] <Kealper> file*
#4033 [15:47] <Kealper> Crash: nah
#4034 [15:47] <mib_yw5gh1> no its changed to the icon for minecraft but it hasnt made any difference
#4035 [15:47] <Kealper> Crash: to make sure.....you did buy Beta, right? lol
#4036 [15:48] <thehappyhobo> i think it wont download.
#4037 [15:48] <Crash> Yeah
#4038 [15:48] <thehappyhobo> im talking for mib_yw5gh1 btw
#4039 [15:48] <Crash> Wait one sec...
#4040 [15:48] <Crash> Brb
#4041 [15:48] <thehappyhobo> were on skype
#4042 [15:48] <mib_yw5gh1> i click on it then i click "run" and nothing happens
#4043 [15:48] <thehappyhobo> ack of programs me thinks
#4044 [15:48] <thehappyhobo> lack*
#4045 [15:48] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: do you know how to open a cmd window?
#4046 [15:48] <mib_yw5gh1> no...
#4047 [15:48] <Kealper> thehappyhobo: you probably nailed that one on the head, that is where i was going with this
#4048 [15:48] <mib_yw5gh1> explain :)
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#4050 [15:49] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: what version of windows are you using?
#4051 [15:49] <mib_yw5gh1> vista... i know its bad
#4052 [15:49] <bugweiser> hmm
#4053 [15:49] <thehappyhobo> a command prompt window
#4054 [15:49] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: Vista actually isn't as bad as pretencious douches make it out to be
#4055 [15:49] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: ok then....click on the start button
#4056 [15:49] <mib_yw5gh1> ok
#4057 [15:50] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: select inside the search bar thing at the bottom of the start menu, type cmd and then press enter
#4058 [15:50] <VoxelHead> basically, and then a bear came
#4059 [15:50] <Kealper> vox.
#4060 [15:50] <Kealper> shut up.
#4061 [15:50] <thehappyhobo> onerofl
#4062 [15:50] <thehappyhobo> rofl*
#4063 [15:50] <bugweiser> can someone help please, every time i try to play minecraft it loads up fine, but when it is about to start the screen either turns white or black
#4064 [15:50] <mib_yw5gh1> hahaa i have the window now
#4065 [15:50] <VoxelHead> do not invoke the wrath of the Irken elite!
#4066 [15:50] <Kealper> ??>> bugweiser win/dxdiag
#4067 [15:50] <thehappyhobo> wtf
#4068 [15:51] <Kealper> vox, didn't i tell you to shut up?
#4069 [15:51] <thehappyhobo> emm bugwieser
#4070 [15:51] <VoxelHead> last night, yes
#4071 [15:51] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
#4072 [15:51] <thehappyhobo> do you use ods?
#4073 [15:51] <Crash> Back
#4074 [15:51] <thehappyhobo> mods?8
#4075 [15:51] <thehappyhobo> *
#4076 [15:51] <Kealper> bugweiser: do what VoxelHead told you in the red text
#4077 [15:51] <mib_yw5gh1> Kealper i have the window
#4078 [15:51] <Crash> You guys no that 1.6.6 has come out?
#4079 [15:51] <thehappyhobo> ik
#4080 [15:51] <Crash> I did a force update
#4081 [15:51] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: type java -version into it and tell me what it says
#4082 [15:52] <Crash> There updating like 2 times a day
#4083 [15:52] <Kealper> Crash: oh, did it? it must have came out while i was afk
#4084 [15:52] <bugweiser> ok
#4085 [15:52] <bugweiser> thanks
#4086 [15:52] <Kealper> Crash: well....heck, gimme a few then
#4087 [15:52] <Kealper> i'll update my crap
#4088 [15:52] <Crash> LOL!
#4089 [15:52] <thehappyhobo> i hate updating mods
#4090 [15:52] <Crash> Same
#4091 [15:52] <mib_yw5gh1> Kealper its not recognised
#4092 [15:52] <Crash> Even though I can bearly use any...
#4093 [15:53] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1: go to http://java.com and install the latest version
#4094 [15:53] <thehappyhobo> lol
#4095 [15:53] <thehappyhobo> Kealper: i thought it was a java problem aswell ;)
#4096 [15:53] <mib_yw5gh1> Kealper thanks ill come back if it doesnt work!
#4097 [15:53] <Crash> Who plays zombiecraft here?
#4098 [15:54] <thehappyhobo> i had it
#4099 [15:54] <thehappyhobo> i deleted it with update though :(
#4100 [15:54] <Crash> Theres 2.2 out..
#4101 [15:54] <thehappyhobo> nice
#4102 [15:54] <Crash> It has vecrrute or something
#4103 [15:54] <Crash> I want kino!
#4104 [15:55] <thehappyhobo> "/nick newnamehere" without quotes
#4105 [15:55] <Kealper> hmm....looks like there was not a server update
#4106 [15:55] <thehappyhobo> change your fing name
#4107 [15:55] <Crash> Who?
#4108 [15:55] <Kealper> mib_yw5gh1
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#4110 [15:56] <Kealper> Crash: oh then.....
#4111 [15:56] <Kealper> ok*
#4112 [15:56] <happyhobo> lol
#4113 [15:56] <Raijin> yes!!!!
#4114 [15:56] <VoxelHead> where'd my moose go?
#4115 [15:56] <Kealper> Crash: what is your ingame name? i'll see if you can connect to my server
#4116 [15:56] <Kealper> vox, shut up
#4117 [15:56] <Kealper> ffs
#4118 [15:56] * VoxelHead goes to find someone more interesting to talk to
#4118 [15:56] <Crash> Crashdownx
#4119 [15:56] <Kealper> thank you ._.
#4120 [15:56] * mib_9xbunp [mib_9xbunp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4121 [15:57] <Kealper> Crashdownx: join the server mc.kealper.com
#4122 [15:57] <Crashdownx> My kitten attacked me today
#4123 [15:57] <Kealper> D:
#4124 [15:57] <jghall1> can someone help me?
#4125 [15:57] <Kealper> jghall1: with?
#4126 [15:57] <thatguywhoplaysminecrafttomuch> hname the plroblem
#4127 [15:57] <Crashdownx> theguywhoplaysminecrafttomuch? Love that name :p
#4128 [15:57] <bugweiser> ok so did what you said
#4129 [15:57] <thatguywhoplaysminecrafttomuch> rofl
#4130 [15:57] <bugweiser> i put the link on here?
#4131 [15:58] <Kealper> bugweiser: yes
#4132 [15:58] <jghall1> whenever i try to play downloaded mc, it gives me exception access violation and black screens
#4133 [15:58] <bugweiser> http://pastebin.com/H37SvkvA
#4134 [15:58] <McPlusPlus> "------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: - Pastebin.com" at pastebin.com
#4135 [15:58] <Kealper> jghall1: what operating system?
#4136 [15:58] <jghall1> pc
#4137 [15:58] <Kealper> bugweiser: uhh....
#4138 [15:58] <Kealper> bugweiser: you don't have enough RAM and your graphics card is too bad to play Minecraft :/
#4139 [15:58] * Kealper kicked notch from #minecrafthelp (Reason: notch)
#4140 [15:59] <bugweiser> haha ok
#4141 [15:59] <bugweiser> its an older desktop
#4142 [15:59] <Crashdownx> Wait Kealper is notch?
#4143 [15:59] <Kealper> bugweiser: i can tell ._.
#4144 [15:59] <jghall1> can soneobe plz help?
#4145 [15:59] <Crashdownx> Or am I seeing things
#4146 [15:59] <Kealper> Crashdownx: huh?
#4147 [15:59] <Kealper> Crashdownx: he changed his name to notch so i kicked him
#4148 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> Crashdownx: mostly the latter.
#4149 [15:59] <bugweiser> i play it on my laptop, just thought i could play it on here
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#4152 [16:00] <Crashdownx> But at the end of the kicking thing it says your name thst notch in brackets. I though that ment... Oh nvm
#4153 [16:00] <jghall1> plz i need help
#4154 [16:00] <bugweiser> anyways thank you guys for helping
#4155 [16:00] <Crashdownx> *then
#4156 [16:00] <thenowsadhobo> y u kick me
#4157 [16:00] <thenowsadhobo> i am notch for real
#4158 [16:00] <Crashdownx> Possing I gues..
#4159 [16:00] <Kealper> bugweiser: might be a good idea to look in to getting a new computer
#4160 [16:00] <Kealper> thenowsadhobo: i could ban you, if that's what you want
#4161 [16:00] <Crashdownx> Possing? How do u spell it..
#4162 [16:00] <thenowsadhobo> nty
#4163 [16:00] <jghall1> i need to be able to play offline cuz online it always sez it runs outta space and i should play offline
#4164 [16:01] <Crashdownx> P - oh - zing
#4165 [16:01] <Kealper> jghall1: "runs out of space?" where do you see this error at?
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#4167 [16:01] <bugweiser> Kealper thank you
#4168 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> "sez"? Seriously?
#4169 [16:01] <thehappyhobo> so was notch already taken or what?
#4170 [16:01] <Kealper> Crashdownx: you never tried connecting to my server, did you?
#4171 [16:01] <Kealper> thehappyhobo: yes?
#4172 [16:01] <Crashdownx> No..
#4173 [16:01] <jghall1> when i play mc online it crashes and says mc is outta space try downloading and playing offline
#4174 [16:02] <Crashdownx> Should I of been?
#4175 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> "have", Crashdownx, "Should I have".
#4176 [16:02] <Kealper> Crashdownx: yes, try connecting to mc.kealper.com
#4177 [16:02] <jghall1> when i download and open it black screens and gives exception access violation
#4178 [16:02] <Crashdownx> Kk
#4179 [16:02] <thehappyhobo> crash wanna join my server?
#4180 [16:02] <Crashdownx> Thats the Ip right?
#4181 [16:02] <Zanderson> Can someone help me my save games keep disappearing in the game menu, yet are still in the save game file
#4182 [16:02] <Kealper> also....stupid map images are generating right now on my server...so....it's laggy
#4183 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> no, that's the hostname
#4184 [16:02] <Kealper> Crashdownx: yes
#4185 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> IP addresses are numerical
#4186 [16:02] <Kealper> Crashdownx: put that into the IP box
#4187 [16:03] <Crashdownx> Got it
#4188 [16:03] <thehappyhobo> ill be watching you k
#4189 [16:03] <jghall1> any ideas?
#4190 [16:03] <SlashLife> thehappyhobo: You're "The Police"?
#4191 [16:03] <thehappyhobo> lolwut
#4192 [16:03] <Kealper> jghall1: yeah, uhh....try reinstalling Java
#4193 [16:03] <jghall1> how?
#4194 [16:03] <Kealper> jghall1: what version of windows are you on right now?
#4195 [16:03] <thehappyhobo> k raijin had to close explorer hell be back in a mo
#4196 [16:03] <jghall1> xp i think....
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#4198 [16:04] <Kealper> jghall1: what color is your start button?
#4199 [16:04] <thehappyhobo> he'll*
#4200 [16:04] <jghall1> green
#4201 [16:04] <Kealper> jghall1: yes, XP
#4202 [16:04] <Zanderson> Can someone help me my save games keep disappearing in the game menu, yet are still in the save game file
#4203 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> ??>> jghall1 getjava
#4204 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> Zanderson nullsave
#4205 [16:04] <thehappyhobo> hmmm
#4206 [16:04] <VoxelHead> Zanderson: (nullsave) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#4207 [16:04] <VoxelHead> Zanderson: (nullsave) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#4208 [16:04] <Kealper> jghall1: ok then, go to Control Panel, and then to Add/Remove programs
#4209 [16:04] <Kealper> jghall1: find the one in that list for Java, and uninstall it
#4210 [16:05] <jghall1> ty
#4211 [16:05] <jghall1> i got it
#4212 [16:05] <Kealper> jghall1: tell me when you have uninstalled it, so i can tell you what to do next
#4213 [16:05] <jghall1> i will see if it works
#4214 [16:05] <Zanderson> ok ill try that
#4215 [16:05] <Kealper> Crashdownx: hmm...and this has never worked for you?
#4216 [16:05] <thehappyhobo> kealper raijjin says that you are a lad. it is working fine ty
#4217 [16:05] * Kealper bows
#4217 [16:06] <thehappyhobo> apparently you are a sex god
#4218 [16:06] <thehappyhobo> rofl
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#4220 [16:06] <thehappyhobo> cheers kealper ill be sure to return here in need of help
#4221 [16:07] <Kealper> Crashdownx: hmm...what sort of internet is TalkTalk? is it DSL, cable, or wireless?
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#4225 [16:09] <jghall1> redownloading java didnt help... :-(
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#4227 [16:09] <Kealper> Crashdownx: also, you said you had an antivirus installed? which one?
#4228 [16:10] <Kealper> dangit...was just typing to him ._.
#4229 [16:11] <Arne> hey guys, anyone here who can help me? if i try to login with the standalone version, im getting a "login failed" error... browser version works fine
#4230 [16:11] <Kealper> Arne: when did you buy it?
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#4232 [16:13] <Arne> erm, wait a moment... i have to ask :) im just trying to help a friend
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#4234 [16:13] <Kealper> Arne: ahh lol
#4235 [16:13] <Kealper> Crashdownx: D:
#4236 [16:15] <Arne> cant reach him... i think ~3 month ago
#4237 [16:15] <Kealper> O.o
#4238 [16:15] <Kealper> oh...well...if i had to guess...
#4239 [16:15] <Metal_Silver_2> Wait could it be my processor thats the problem because it sounds like it cant detect it just right because it says
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#4242 [16:16] <Metal_Silver_2> Unknown cpu type
#4243 [16:16] <mib_8a4vdu> i need help
#4244 [16:16] <mib_8a4vdu> anyone here?
#4245 [16:16] <Metal_Silver_2> So do I
#4246 [16:16] <Kealper> Arne: either his computer's time/date are off, or some antivirus software is blocking his client
#4247 [16:16] <mib_8a4vdu> i bought the game but the emial wont come
#4248 [16:17] <Kealper> mib_8a4vdu: when did you buy it?
#4249 [16:17] <Kealper> Metal_Silver_2: what? lol
#4250 [16:17] <Metal_Silver_2> I dont know if my processor a integrated graphics chip
#4251 [16:17] <Kealper> Metal_Silver_2: oh, 1 sec
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#4253 [16:17] <mib_8a4vdu> i bought it about a week ago
#4254 [16:17] <Kealper> Metal_Silver_2: what was your issue? i missed it when you said it the first time, apparently
#4255 [16:18] <Arne> hmm ok thanks... i checked antivirus and firewall allready =/
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#4257 [16:18] <mib_8a4vdu> i bought the game but the email didnt come
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#4259 [16:18] <Kealper> Arne: if your friend just wanted the client version due to the fullscreen, tell them to press F11 when playing the browser version :P
#4260 [16:19] <Kealper> mib_8a4vdu: what is your username?
#4261 [16:19] <Kealper> mib_8a4vdu: ingame
#4262 [16:19] <mib_8a4vdu> breezestone4
#4263 [16:19] <Kealper> !paid breezestone4
#4264 [16:19] <Kealper> hmm...
#4265 [16:19] <mib_8a4vdu> i need help i bought the game but my email didnt come
#4266 [16:19] <Kealper> mib_8a4vdu: are you sure the payment went through ok?
#4267 [16:19] <Metal_Silver_2> Well im getting freeze frames for 5 seconds when ever i walk so wanna know is it possible this problem stated in this mod forum?
#4268 [16:19] <Metal_Silver_2> Um how do i post a link
#4269 [16:19] <mib_z94leu> i bought the game but a icon is not on my desktop
#4270 [16:20] <mib_8a4vdu> i used a mastercard
#4271 [16:20] <mib_8a4vdu> i dont really know if it worked
#4272 [16:20] <Kealper> Metal_Silver_2: by...posting the link? lol
#4273 [16:20] <Metal_Silver_2> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/150701-v15-01-caf-mod-for-integrated-graphics-mod-v10/
#4274 [16:20] <McPlusPlus> "[V1.5_01] CAF-mod for integrated graphics [MOD v1.0] - Minecraft Forum" at www.minecraftforum.net
#4275 [16:20] <Arne> yeah i know... i was just wondering why the browser version works and the standalone doesnt... but thanks :)
#4276 [16:20] <Metal_Silver_2> How you know?
#4277 [16:21] <Kealper> mib_8a4vdu: email payment@mojang.com and tell them what is happening, as we can not help you in here
#4278 [16:21] <mib_8a4vdu> im going to check our monthly bill and if it says that i didnt buy the game then ill purchase it
#4279 [16:21] <mib_8a4vdu> well
#4280 [16:21] <mib_8a4vdu> thanks for the help
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#4282 [16:21] <Kealper> mib_z94leu: you need to download it, first lol
#4283 [16:21] <TheFluffyEminem> Is there anyway to change my email for minecraft?
#4284 [16:21] <Metal_Silver_2> McPlusPlus clearly knew this before i did
#4285 [16:22] <Kealper> ??>> Metal_Silver_2 win/dxdiag
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#4287 [16:22] <Kealper> McPlusPlus is a bot, it went to that link and got the page title, then sent it in here after you put the link in
#4288 [16:22] <Kealper> http://google.com
#4289 [16:22] <McPlusPlus> "Google" at google.com
#4290 [16:22] <Kealper> see? lol
#4291 [16:22] <Metal_Silver_2> http://pastebin.com/adRk3nUf
#4292 [16:22] <McPlusPlus> "------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: - Pastebin.com" at pastebin.com
#4293 [16:23] <Kealper> TheFluffyEminem: no, unfortunately not, i do not believe
#4294 [16:23] <Metal_Silver_2> I feel as if that im gonna get insulted bye the way my computer is below entry level.
#4295 [16:23] <Kealper> Metal_Silver_2: i'll be totally honest
#4296 [16:23] <Kealper> that computer is OLD
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#4298 [16:23] <Metal_Silver_2> I knew it
#4299 [16:23] <Kealper> and probably isn't going to run Minecraft
#4300 [16:24] <Kealper> actually with that sort of computer, if you can afford a few hundred bucks, i'd recommend getting the cheapest one you can find from Dell or HP....i think it might be time for you to upgrade lol
#4301 [16:25] <Metal_Silver_2> But guess what i cant upgrade because of our money problem
#4302 [16:25] <Kealper> :/
#4303 [16:27] <Kealper> you can try that performance mod, but i am not sure it will help much....your computer's CPU is extremely slow :/
#4304 [16:27] <Kealper> the graphics card that is in it might do fine once it loads, but it's going to be seriously laggy while it loads stuff :/
#4305 [16:28] <Metal_Silver_2> Wow I kinda feel as if there is no chance for me playing another game one here.
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#4308 [16:29] <Metal_Silver_2> Thanks for trying to help but that means that we need atleast new parts
#4309 [16:29] <Metal_Silver_2> or are things bigger these days?
#4310 [16:29] <Metal_Silver_2> |
#4311 [16:30] <Kealper> well...
#4312 [16:30] <Kealper> since the real issue is the CPU, it means that the motherboard itself is probably too old to squeeze better hardware in to
#4313 [16:31] <Metal_Silver_2> That means a whole lot of make over
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#4315 [16:31] <Kealper> and it doesn't look like there is much more that can be done to upgrade that computer, so that's why i said just get the cheapest one from Dell or HP, because even that is going to run circles around the current one :/
#4316 [16:32] <Metal_Silver_2> The thing is Kealpe my mom dos not believe a word you guys are saying and only trusts my brother's "only one actually made the computer"
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#4318 [16:33] <Metal_Silver_2> You sure its not Cheaper to just go out and buy the parts?
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#4320 [16:34] <Metal_Silver_2> Thats unless the AC unit is old as well
#4321 [16:34] <Kealper> Metal_Silver_2: and does your brother actually think your current computer is good?
#4322 [16:34] <Kealper> sorry, other computer just shut itself off due to overheating ._.
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#4324 [16:34] <Kealper> (yes, it's pretty hot where i am right now)
#4325 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> Metal_Silver_2: Buying parts and building a new PC would definitely be cheaper than gettin an equivelant new PC from Dell or whomever
#4326 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> but you can get _a_ cheaper PC from them. It'll just also be crap.
#4327 [16:35] <Kealper> but it'll still be better than what you have
#4328 [16:36] <pielord2011> Hey guys.
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#4330 [16:37] <schnozzle> hi!
#4331 [16:37] <pielord2011> Can you help me out with a little problem with my Minecraft?
#4332 [16:37] <Kealper> ?? ask
#4333 [16:37] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4334 [16:37] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4335 [16:37] <Metal_Silver_2> Well he go's by my moms way of thinking.
#4336 [16:37] <Metal_Silver_2> He's married now thats also a problem because of scheduling
#4337 [16:38] <Kealper> "it still opens Internet Explorer 6 in less than five minutes, it's fine!?"
#4338 [16:38] <pielord2011> Well I just downloaded an update for mac OS X, and now my minecraft wont work.
#4339 [16:38] <Kealper> sorry...had to...lol
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#4341 [16:38] <Kealper> pielord2011: what is it telling you
#4342 [16:38] <Kealper> pielord2011: or is it just going black?
#4343 [16:38] <pielord2011> Can't be open because of a problem
#4344 [16:38] <Metal_Silver_2> Pielord2011: what about the browser
#4345 [16:39] <Kealper> pielord2011: care to elaborate on that error?
#4346 [16:39] <pielord2011> Check if there are any updates
#4347 [16:39] <pielord2011> and theres not
#4348 [16:39] <schnozzle> I was playing on my own world offline,running around and then my game started glitching(like fast movement).And when I restart this world I'm at the same place,the world is "in life" but still "frozen".I can dig but I can't move.Like staying in the air.Anyone know about that?
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#4351 [16:40] <pielord2011> I tried to uninstall and redownload, and didn't get anywhere
#4352 [16:40] <Kealper> schnozzle: sounds like your world got broke....try making a new one and seeing if it does that on that one, too
#4353 [16:40] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: can you take over in here? i've got to go nurse my main computer a bit
#4354 [16:40] <schnozzle> Ok,I'm trying it now.I hope my world is'nt broken it was juste awesome :'(
#4355 [16:40] <Metal_Silver_2> Kealper thanks for your help at least I know why its hard to find the right drivers
#4356 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: intermittently
#4357 [16:41] <Dray> I am currently unable to download the latest update to Minecraft. When I try to download, it says Downloading Packages, and then doesn't do anything else.
#4358 [16:41] <mib_h95yg6> help!!
#4359 [16:41] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: danke sehr
#4360 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> I actually have to work at work today but I'll dip my toe in (:
#4361 [16:41] <Kealper> lol
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#4363 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> ??> Dray win/reinst
#4364 [16:42] <VoxelHead> Dray: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4365 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_h95yg6 ask
#4366 [16:42] <VoxelHead> Dray: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4367 [16:42] <VoxelHead> mib_h95yg6: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4368 [16:42] <VoxelHead> mib_h95yg6: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4369 [16:42] <mib_h95yg6> just bought minecraft for son's birthday today and cant get it to load and play, i am confused- he plays the basic version on this computer but the p[aid for version says bad video driver
#4370 [16:42] <Dray> Okay, I'll try that out. Thanks!
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#4372 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> mib_h95yg6: what video card has the computer got?
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#4374 [16:43] <mib_rd5kn9> hi
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#4376 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> mib_rd5kn9: g'morning
#4377 [16:43] <schnozzle> Aoow I created a new know.It work but the other one still not :(
#4378 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> ??> schnozzle nullsave
#4379 [16:43] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (nullsave) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#4380 [16:43] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (nullsave) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#4381 [16:43] <schnozzle> new world*
#4382 [16:44] <HAWKEYE10> can someone help with the open a duoble chest and it blacks screens
#4383 [16:44] <schnozzle> Okay
#4384 [16:44] <schnozzle> Trying this now ;)
#4385 [16:44] <mib_h95yg6> i am not pc saavy but did find it and it said it is current- i cant find it now however,
#4386 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> schnozzle: g'luck
#4387 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_h95yg6 win/dxdiag
#4388 [16:44] <VoxelHead> mib_h95yg6: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4389 [16:44] <VoxelHead> mib_h95yg6: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#4390 [16:45] <mib_rd5kn9> Hi i dont know if you will be able to help, I bought minecraft premium and a confirmation code will be sent to my email address... i am having problems with this email address and cant access it. can i change my email address. Thanks.
#4391 [16:45] <pielord2011> does anybody know what this means? Process: JavaApplicationStub [2844] Path: /Users/Pielord2011/Downloads/Minecraft/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub Identifier: com.Mojang Specifications.Minecraft.Minecraft Version: ??? (???) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [90]
#4392 [16:45] <HAWKEYE10> i need some help
#4393 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> mib_rd5kn9: no, you cannot change your email address associated with a Minecraft account.
#4394 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> HAWKEYE10 ask
#4395 [16:45] <VoxelHead> HAWKEYE10: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4396 [16:45] <VoxelHead> HAWKEYE10: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#4398 [16:46] <mib_h95yg6> i am having a hard time following who is answering my call for help
#4399 [16:46] <HAWKEYE10> every time i open a double chest it says saving chunks and black screens the window
#4400 [16:46] <mib_rd5kn9> my payment has been sent and i cannot access my email to get code is there any other way, i can give my account name etc
#4401 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> mib_h95yg6: anything addressed to you will generally have your name in it somewhere, to help you pick it out of the noise.
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#4403 [16:47] <Dray> I just tried your solution to my problem, and it didn't seem to work
#4404 [16:47] <Dray> I still get the Downloading Packages, and nothing else
#4405 [16:47] <peru__> <mib_h95yg6>, do what VoxelHead wrote
#4406 [16:47] <mib_h95yg6> okay thanks- i dont see any solutions yet unless i missed it
#4407 [16:48] <peru__> yes you missed it
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#4409 [16:48] <DopeGhoti> mib_rd5kn9: You really need to regain access to your email account. You could try sending an email to payment@mojang.com with your payment confirmation information, but they do not presently support changing associated email addresses.
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#4411 [16:48] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_h95yg6 win/dxdiag
#4412 [16:48] <VoxelHead> mib_h95yg6: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4413 [16:48] <VoxelHead> mib_h95yg6: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#4414 [16:49] <mib_h95yg6> ok where is win?
#4415 [16:49] <schnozzle> Do I need to change the player spawn zone with MCEdit on my world?
#4416 [16:49] <schnozzle> Or it's something else...?
#4417 [16:49] <xales> ??> mib_h95yg6 win/key
#4418 [16:49] <VoxelHead> mib_h95yg6: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#4419 [16:49] <mib_rd5kn9> thanks
#4420 [16:49] <DopeGhoti> schnozzle: just load the world, and then save it; then try it in Minecraft again.
#4421 [16:49] <schnozzle> Ok
#4422 [16:49] <HAWKEYE10> does anyone know what wioth the double chest problem
#4423 [16:49] <HAWKEYE10> with*
#4424 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> schnozzle: if it still doesn't work, the world is more badly corrputed :(
#4425 [16:50] <VoxelHead> mmm Patze_
#4426 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> HAWKEYE10: what double-chesk problem
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#4428 [16:50] <mib_h95yg6> ok
#4429 [16:50] <mib_h95yg6> then what
#4430 [16:50] <pielord2011> What does this mean? I updated my mac OSX, and minecraft wont work anymore.- Process: JavaApplicationStub [2844] Path: /Users/Pielord2011/Downloads/Minecraft/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub Identifier: com.Mojang Specifications.Minecraft.Minecraft Version: ??? (???) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process:
#4431 [16:50] <schnozzle> Still not :(
#4432 [16:50] <schnozzle> Nooo
#4433 [16:50] <HAWKEYE10> when i open double chest on one of my world's it sya savig chunks and black screens the window
#4434 [16:50] <cucumber> ??> pielord2011 pastebin
#4435 [16:50] <VoxelHead> pielord2011: (pastebin) Pasting into IRC is called "flooding" and is not permitted - you should use a service such as http://pastebin.com/ to paste anything longer than ONE LINE. If you are unsure, use Pastebin.
#4436 [16:50] <VoxelHead> pielord2011: (pastebin) These services allow you to paste the text on their site, then share a short link that allows us to see the full text you pasted
#4437 [16:51] <schnozzle> But,corrupted,okay,but why the world is still "alive"?!
#4438 [16:51] <Dray> I am still having trouble downloading the new update. It still gives me the same Downloading Updates, after going to the .minecraft file and deleting everything but the saves
#4439 [16:51] <Morrolan> mib_h95yg6: Well, where are you stuck at now? Did you already create the dxdaig?
#4440 [16:51] <Morrolan> Or are you still at the box which shows up when pressing windows+r
#4441 [16:51] <Morrolan> ?*
#4442 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> Dray win/profile
#4443 [16:52] <VoxelHead> Dray: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
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#4445 [16:52] <VoxelHead> Dray: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#4446 [16:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> pielord2011 mac/permissions
#4447 [16:52] <VoxelHead> pielord2011: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#4448 [16:52] <VoxelHead> pielord2011: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#4449 [16:53] <HAWKEYE10> DopeGhoti do u know what iom talking about with the double chest
#4450 [16:53] <Dray> Alrighty, i'll see if that works. Thanks again!
#4451 [16:53] <HAWKEYE10> im*
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#4453 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> HAWKEYE10: no, I do not. And you're missing an apostrophe.
#4454 [16:54] <HAWKEYE10> no
#4455 [16:54] <Morrolan> I'm <- This one he means, HAWKEYE10.
#4456 [16:54] <Morrolan> Anyway, mind describing that double chest issue?
#4457 [16:54] <HAWKEYE10> its only one of my worlds that has the problem
#4458 [16:55] <schnozzle> I fixed it! :D
#4459 [16:55] <HAWKEYE10> i try to open a double chest and it says saving chunks and black screens the window
#4460 [16:55] <schnozzle> I just moved my player with MCEdit and I can play again
#4461 [16:55] <mib_h95yg6> we cant get o that link
#4462 [16:55] <mib_h95yg6> to*
#4463 [16:56] <xales> mib_h95yg6: What?
#4464 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> HAWKEYE10: Are you running any mods?
#4465 [16:56] <mib_h95yg6> we dont know where it is
#4466 [16:56] <schnozzle> But,I think there is a zone that is glithing :(
#4467 [16:56] <HAWKEYE10> yes one the airplane mod
#4468 [16:56] <mib_h95yg6> we copied and submited
#4469 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> ??> HAWKEYE10 recentupdate
#4470 [16:56] <xales> mib_h95yg6: The link is in the address bar
#4471 [16:56] <DopeGhoti> ??> HAWKEYE10 mods/update
#4472 [16:56] <VoxelHead> HAWKEYE10: (mods/update) When the server software has been updated, it is virtually guaranteed to break non-API mods such as bikkit. If your server is crashing, _remove the mods_ as your _first_ troubleshooting step.
#4473 [16:56] <Morrolan> bikkit? XD
#4474 [16:57] <HAWKEYE10> the update for 1 point 5 is the same for 1.6
#4475 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> yeah yeah
#4476 [16:57] <xales> DopeGhoti: there's ?? account now, by the way. Daniel wants us to send everyone with account issues to the support page
#4477 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> xales: noted.
#4478 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> HAWKEYE10: remove any and all mods, and see if the issue persists.
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#4481 [16:57] <HAWKEYE10> its not on a sever VoxelHead
#4482 [16:57] <HAWKEYE10> ok i will try that
#4483 [16:57] <DopeGhoti> HAWKEYE10: remove any and all mods, and see if the issue persists.
#4484 [16:57] <pielord2011> I tried to input the command in terminal, and it didn't help Voxel.
#4485 [16:58] <mib_h95yg6> me and tyhe 10 year old sent it but dont know what to do next- we submitted the report and are now stuck
#4486 [16:58] <xales> pielord2011: Please pastebin the error that you get, so we can determine what the issue is
#4487 [16:58] <VoxelHead> mib_h95yg6: tyhe and me
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#4489 [16:58] <mib_h95yg6> the*
#4490 [16:58] <xales> mib_h95yg6: again, you have to give us the URL to it. the URL is in your address bar
#4491 [16:58] <mib_h95yg6> http://pastebin.com/rXBnwKYY
#4492 [16:58] <McPlusPlus> "------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: - Pastebin.com" at pastebin.com
#4493 [16:59] <g> whups
#4494 [16:59] <mib_h95yg6> sorry for being so slow
#4495 [16:59] <g> ~stfu
#4496 [16:59] <g> forgot to turn that off :P
#4497 [16:59] <xales> mib_h95yg6: try playing in the browser, at http://minecraft.net/game/
#4498 [17:00] <mib_h95yg6> its still not working
#4499 [17:00] <HAWKEYE10> thanks or the help guys it was the mods
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#4501 [17:01] <mib_h95yg6> same bad video
#4502 [17:01] <mib_h95yg6> card
#4503 [17:01] <Howie> Anyone knw when the update of Mo creatures will be up?
#4504 [17:01] <mib_h95yg6> message
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#4506 [17:01] <pielord2011> http://mibpaste.com/GOmLwF
#4507 [17:01] <zacob122> hi
#4508 [17:01] <pielord2011> Sorry about that taking so long.
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#4510 [17:02] <zacob122> its ok the problem is i get on the game i log on and it puts a black blank screen
#4511 [17:03] <schnozzle> does anyone know what means red blocks in MCEdit?
#4512 [17:03] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ):
#4513 [17:04] <Morrolan> schnozzle: Redstone maybe?
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#4515 [17:04] <Morrolan> Or it could be an unknown block as well.
#4516 [17:04] <mib_h95yg6> red wool
#4517 [17:04] <mib_h95yg6> maybe
#4518 [17:04] <VoxelHead> i gotta go pig... i'll see you later
#4519 [17:05] <g> vox, shut up
#4520 [17:05] * VoxelHead knows when it isn't wanted.
#4520 [17:05] <schnozzle> Nonono cause I've been there in MC and there is nothing.It's like activity blocks
#4521 [17:05] * VoxelHead stabs g in the floating rib
#4521 [17:05] <schnozzle> Making you a screenshot
#4522 [17:05] <mib_h95yg6> someone plz help
#4523 [17:06] <mib_h95yg6> i have everything done but the message says bad video card error
#4524 [17:06] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_h95yg6 gpu/amd
#4525 [17:06] <VoxelHead> mib_h95yg6: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#4526 [17:07] <pielord2011> http://mibpaste.com/GOmLwF
#4527 [17:07] <xales> pielord2011: You don't have Java installed properly
#4528 [17:07] <mib_h95yg6> ok nothing is showing up
#4529 [17:07] <pielord2011> How do I fix it?
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#4531 [17:08] <xales> pielord2011: install Java.
#4532 [17:08] <pielord2011> Okay.
#4533 [17:08] <Jessyble> Heloo
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#4537 [17:09] <Jessyble> i need a little helpp?
#4538 [17:09] <xales> ?? ask
#4539 [17:09] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4540 [17:09] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#4543 [17:11] <mib_h95yg6> windows said that the video cards were updated... so is that link to buy something new?
#4544 [17:11] <Morrolan> No, driver updates are free.
#4545 [17:11] <montezuma> My minecraft doesn't work. I was try to get some mods to work and later gave up and now when the mojang thing at the begining should pop up the screen goes black and the window closes. Help?
#4546 [17:11] <xales> ??> montezuma win/reinst
#4547 [17:11] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4548 [17:11] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4549 [17:11] <mib_h95yg6> how do i know what to type in the boxes??
#4550 [17:12] <Morrolan> And Windows doesn't always find the latest drivers. Could you give me the link to that dxdiag you posted earlier? Then I'll show you which driver you have to download.
#4551 [17:12] <Morrolan> ^ mib_h95yg6
#4552 [17:12] <mib_h95yg6> http://pastebin.com/rXBnwKYY
#4553 [17:12] <Jessyble> ok sorry.. well i have minecraft beta and it always works on the downloaded version, but i want my friend to bye it so i am trying to go on classic with her but every time i go on the browser version it says i have to donload a activex controll but it wont download it because the author is unknown..
#4554 [17:12] <montezuma> ?
#4555 [17:12] <Mysterion12> you may download the newest driver for your video card
#4556 [17:12] <Morrolan> mib_h95yg6: Thanks, give me a second.
#4557 [17:13] <xales> Jessyble: Use a real browser, not Internet Explorer
#4558 [17:13] <xales> montezuma: Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#4559 [17:13] <Jessyble> i have tryed opera aswell but the same problem
#4560 [17:13] <montezuma> can someone help me? sooner rather than later
#4561 [17:13] <xales> Try Firefox
#4562 [17:13] <xales> ??> montezuma win/reinst
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#4564 [17:13] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4565 [17:13] <Jessyble> okk will do
#4566 [17:13] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4567 [17:13] <xales> Follow those instructions. For the third time.
#4568 [17:13] <schnozzle> http://miburl.com/CANcxD Here you go (my screenshot)
#4569 [17:13] <mib_h95yg6> i appreciate the help- its the 10 year olds birthday and hes getting all upset i cant get his present to work :( but i am so not computer literate
#4570 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> actually, follow them for the first time
#4571 [17:13] <DopeGhoti> that'd be good.
#4572 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> mib_h95yg6: we're here to help (:
#4573 [17:14] <xales> DopeGhoti: It was more, the third time I was instructing them to follow said instructions >.>
#4574 [17:14] <DopeGhoti> Tell him #minecrafthelp bids him a happy birthday! (:
#4575 [17:14] <montezuma> My minecraft closes when the mojang should pop up. help?
#4576 [17:14] <Fissure11> How do i install an update i said "not now" to?
#4577 [17:14] <xales> Fissure11: just launch Minecraft again
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#4579 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> montezuma: you have been given directions several times. Follow them?
#4580 [17:15] <Fissure11> it did not work
#4581 [17:15] <montezuma> ? wuta/
#4582 [17:15] <xales> Fissure11: Before you log in, click Options then Force Update
#4583 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> Fissure11: are you running windows?
#4584 [17:15] <Mysterion12> is it possible to buy this game in the next time to buy with paysafe? i´m not 18, so i cant create a paypal account...
#4585 [17:15] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti, Xales: WDM Integrated driver vs. Catalyst software suite?
#4586 [17:15] <Morrolan> Respectively, what on earth are WDM integrated drivers?
#4587 [17:15] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: Not Catalyst. Catalyst is dumb and evil and dumb
#4588 [17:16] <xales> Mysterion12: One of the payment methods accepts paysafe, I don't know which one
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#4590 [17:16] <Fissure11> ok i'll try options
#4591 [17:16] <montezuma> oh srry
#4592 [17:16] <Morrolan> Heh, fair enough. ^^
#4593 [17:16] <Saffy> Hey, got a bit of a problem running the clinet (Windows 7)
#4594 [17:16] <Mysterion12> @xales thx
#4595 [17:16] <schnozzle> Anyone?
#4596 [17:16] <Saffy> Can anyone help?
#4597 [17:16] <xales> Saffy: What is the problem?
#4598 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: (the WDM drivers are Just The Drivers Please. The Catalyst suite is a bloatad, large, and bloated control panel dowhackey)
#4599 [17:16] <montezuma> wait wuts windows r? first time here still figuring this out, srry
#4600 [17:16] <Saffy> It keeps running and then saying access is denied
#4601 [17:16] <Morrolan> mib_h95yg6: Ok then. Go to this site: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#4602 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> Saffy: only if you tell us what the problem is
#4603 [17:17] <xales> schnozzle: They are either blocks that are invalid (from a mod) or map corruption
#4604 [17:17] <xales> ??> montezuma win/key
#4605 [17:17] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#4606 [17:17] <montezuma> wut is windows+R?
#4607 [17:17] <Morrolan> mib_h95yg6: Then scroll down (a lot) until you see "WDM integrated drivers". Press the download button to the right of it.
#4608 [17:17] <Morrolan> montezuma: Windows = Windows key
#4609 [17:17] <Morrolan> the one with the little flag
#4610 [17:17] <xales> montezuma: Again, you were _just_ told what it is
#4611 [17:17] <Morrolan> And R, well, R. ^^
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#4613 [17:17] <MoonShadow> i'm sure you've heard it many times but: buyed the game -> multiplayer -> bad login/not on white-list ... client or server problem? :(
#4614 [17:17] <Fissure11> it did not work
#4615 [17:18] <xales> MoonShadow: Probably server
#4616 [17:18] <montezuma> srry scroled up ( i feel studpid
#4617 [17:18] <Morrolan> MoonShadow: Or your windows user account ends in !
#4618 [17:18] <schnozzle> Okay thank you xales!
#4619 [17:18] <MoonShadow> can sb give me an ip of a server which workes? :o
#4620 [17:18] <Morrolan> Or you've logged in too often.
#4621 [17:18] <Jessyble> ok so i just had a go on firefox but this time it dosent even ask to install an active x it just the box doesnt show
#4622 [17:18] <MoonShadow> nope
#4623 [17:18] <mib_h95yg6> i have to go- would it be possible to email me the instructions so i can try again - i can't tell when you are speaking to me and this conversation ios going too fast
#4624 [17:18] <xales> Jessyble: You have to install Java
#4625 [17:18] <MoonShadow> also in the online game Morrolan
#4626 [17:18] <Fissure11> how do i install a passed update?
#4627 [17:18] <mib_h95yg6> i apologize if im the one you had to tell 3 times
#4628 [17:18] <Jessyble> i have java 64bit
#4629 [17:18] <xales> mib_h95yg6: come back another time, then
#4630 [17:18] <Saffy> Anyone? :3
#4631 [17:18] <Morrolan> mib_h95yg6: Wait a second.
#4632 [17:19] <xales> Jessyble: Most browsers use 32-bit Java
#4633 [17:19] <Morrolan> <+Morrolan> mib_h95yg6: Ok then. Go to this site: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#4634 [17:19] <xales> Saffy: What OS?
#4635 [17:19] <Fissure11> somebody help me
#4636 [17:19] <Morrolan> Basically, whenever someone mentiones your name in front of a message, it is directed at you.
#4637 [17:19] <MoonShadow> logged in too often? in minecraft or attempt to log in on the server?
#4638 [17:19] <Saffy> Windows 7, home basic N, 64 bit
#4639 [17:19] <g> There's a 64-bit Home Basic?
#4640 [17:19] <xales> ??> Saffy win/reinst
#4641 [17:19] <VoxelHead> Saffy: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4642 [17:19] <g> That's news to me..
#4643 [17:19] <Jessyble> i had a feeling it was that..:/ i looked on the oracle website and there are loads of downloads (well.. obvs its java) is it jdk?
#4644 [17:20] <VoxelHead> Saffy: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4645 [17:20] <Morrolan> mib_h95yg6: You know what, I'll just PM you.
#4646 [17:20] <xales> Jessyble: No - JRE
#4647 [17:20] <Fissure11> Somebody........Help.........Me.....
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#4649 [17:20] <xales> ??> Fissure11 patience
#4650 [17:20] <VoxelHead> Fissure11: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#4651 [17:20] <VoxelHead> Fissure11: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#4652 [17:20] <Saffy> Oook, just started triyng to play, but will have a go, cheers
#4653 [17:20] <Jessyble> ok jre 32 bit... will do
#4654 [17:20] <mib_ajgfdy> I need Help
#4655 [17:20] <mib_h95yg6> okay
#4656 [17:20] <xales> ??> Fissure11 win/reinst
#4657 [17:20] <VoxelHead> Fissure11: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4658 [17:20] <VoxelHead> Fissure11: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4659 [17:20] <Morrolan> mib_h95yg6: You should now see a new tab next to the one which is selected atm.
#4660 [17:20] <xales> ??> mib_ajgfdy ask
#4661 [17:20] <VoxelHead> mib_ajgfdy: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4662 [17:20] <VoxelHead> mib_ajgfdy: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4663 [17:20] <Morrolan> mib_h95yg6: It should be on top of the chat window.
#4664 [17:21] <mib_h95yg6> its hard because so many differnet people were trying to help- and this is going too fast for me
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#4666 [17:21] <Morrolan> mib_h95yg6: Heh, it'll be quieter in the PM, no worries.
#4667 [17:21] <Morrolan> Look for the new tab above the chat window.
#4668 [17:21] <Morrolan> When you click on it you should be taken to a new chat window.
#4669 [17:21] <Saffy> Nope, still not running
#4670 [17:21] <Saffy> same error, and I cleared out the file
#4671 [17:21] <xales> Saffy: What is the exact error?
#4672 [17:22] <montezuma> OMG thank u so much (srry for my stupidness first time here and this is a new comp. i still don't know it) srry
#4673 [17:22] <Jessyble> this sounds like really bad but i cant find the link -.- :/
#4674 [17:22] <xales> Jessyble: java.com
#4675 [17:22] <Saffy> Launch4j \\ An error occured while starting the application Access is denied
#4676 [17:22] <Saffy> the \\ separates out the title from the dialogue
#4677 [17:22] <Jessyble> no isnt it oracle?? any way i can get on i just...well have you ever seen the downloads page its like a wall of text
#4678 [17:23] <xales> Jessyble: java.com
#4679 [17:23] <xales> Saffy: Do you have any antivirus/"security" software running?
#4680 [17:23] <Saffy> Oooh that could be it
#4681 [17:23] <Jessyble> i know its java .com -.- i just cant find the right download
#4682 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jessyble getjava
#4683 [17:23] <VoxelHead> Jessyble: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
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#4685 [17:24] <Jessyble> thank you
#4686 [17:24] <VoxelHead> Mmm "kafkaf"
#4687 [17:25] <Saffy> How do you even shut AVG down >.>
#4688 [17:25] <xales> Aside from uninstalling it?
#4689 [17:25] <Saffy> Yea, preferably
#4690 [17:25] <xales> Double click the icon, click each component, uncheck the "Enable (component)"
#4691 [17:25] <Saffy> Ah cheers
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#4693 [17:30] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
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#4696 [17:33] <MoonShadow> can sb maybe give me a server ip, so i can check weather or not my error is general or only on one specific server? :o
#4697 [17:33] <xales> MoonShadow: s.nerd.nu
#4698 [17:33] <MoonShadow> thx
#4699 [17:34] <VoxelHead> watch out for the moose
#4700 [17:38] * Vivek runs from the moose
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#4703 [17:40] <Morrolan> Have a nice day, #Minecrafthelp.
#4704 [17:40] <erith_fi> so i've had a recurring problem, i'm hosting a server for my girlfriend and i and for some reason lately it seems half the time when we go to connect we are in an empty or half loaded area and just kinda float there waiting for it to load, but it never does. anyone else have this problem?
#4705 [17:40] <Saffy> Hey, still can't play/install the game
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#4707 [17:40] <Saffy> AVG is not turning off or uninstalling properly >.>
#4708 [17:40] <Saffy> any other way?
#4709 [17:40] <Morrolan> Oh, mib_h95yg6 might come back later. I've helped her installing the GPU drivers now, let's hope it fixes it. If it doesn't I'll leave it up to you. :D
#4710 [17:40] <xales> erith_fi: seems to be a known problem with 1.6
#4711 [17:41] <xales> Saffy: AVG is almost certaily the issue, but you could try reinstalling Java and redownloading the game (make sure to 'save' and not 'run')
#4712 [17:41] <Saffy> I'll try installing Java again, cheers
#4713 [17:41] <erith_fi> awsum, any tricks around it? restarting the server doesn't seem to help at all =[
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#4715 [17:44] <xales> erith_fi: nope, no idea what causes it
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#4718 [17:45] <nworb> i bought the game and tried to run it, however it won't open. it just keeps shutting down without even an error message
#4719 [17:45] <nworb> any help?
#4720 [17:46] <jacko> my minecraft, when i sign in it gets pasted the mojang screen then freezes on a black screen. help please?
#4721 [17:46] <xales> What OS?
#4722 [17:46] <xales> (both of you)
#4723 [17:46] <nworb> yeah OS
#4724 [17:46] <jacko> whats os?
#4725 [17:46] <xales> OS = Operating system
#4726 [17:46] <xales> Windows, Mac, Linux..
#4727 [17:46] <jacko> ohhh windows 7
#4728 [17:47] <xales> ??> jacko win/reinst
#4729 [17:47] <nworb> Mac
#4730 [17:47] <VoxelHead> jacko: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4731 [17:47] <VoxelHead> jacko: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4732 [17:47] <xales> ??> nworb mac/permissions
#4733 [17:47] <VoxelHead> nworb: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#4734 [17:47] <VoxelHead> nworb: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#4735 [17:47] <nworb> thanks
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#4737 [17:49] <nworb> it worked. thanks a lot
#4738 [17:49] <kermie> hi mine wont let me play because pixal is not accellerated what do i do
#4739 [17:49] <jacko> thanks ill try now
#4740 [17:49] <xales> kermie: Update your graphics card drivers
#4741 [17:49] <kermie> how do i do that
#4742 [17:49] <Awesomeness> Kermie
#4743 [17:49] <Awesomeness> Please do a DxDiag
#4744 [17:49] <xales> Do you know what graphics card you have?
#4745 [17:49] <Awesomeness> ??> kermie win/dxdiag
#4746 [17:49] <VoxelHead> kermie: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4747 [17:49] <VoxelHead> kermie: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#4749 [17:51] <VoxelHead> Mmm kermie.
#4750 [17:52] <jacko> yesssssssssss!!! thank you soooo much :D
#4751 [17:52] <jacko> <3
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#4753 [17:53] <deschriever> hi @ all
#4754 [17:53] <xales> Hello.
#4755 [17:53] <Awesomeness> Hai
#4756 [17:54] <Vivek> ohai
#4757 [17:54] <deschriever> i have a problem with starting the game
#4758 [17:54] <xales> Care to elaborate?
#4759 [17:54] <deschriever> I log in and the screen is black
#4760 [17:54] <Awesomeness> Can I take this one?
#4761 [17:55] <xales> ??> deschriever win/reinst
#4762 [17:55] <VoxelHead> deschriever: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4763 [17:55] <VoxelHead> deschriever: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4764 [17:55] <xales> Awesomeness: too late :P
#4765 [17:55] <jacko> i had the same problem they can help and it works
#4766 [17:56] <deschriever> thx
#4767 [17:56] <deschriever> i try it
#4768 [17:58] <deschriever> ok it´s loading the game. waiting to see how it works now
#4769 [17:59] <deschriever> its running. thx to you all
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#4771 [18:00] <deschriever> I'm off to leave. Thanks to VoxelHead
#4772 [18:00] <Awesomeness> VoxelHead isn't human
#4773 [18:00] <Awesomeness> He has no feelings.
#4774 [18:00] <Awesomeness> >:(
#4775 [18:01] <deschriever> achso: D he is a bot or what?
#4776 [18:01] <Awesomeness> He's an alien!
#4777 [18:01] <deschriever> Web
#4778 [18:01] <figaro> Why is it when i save on one computer and go to another one all the worlds dont pop up?
#4779 [18:01] <Awesomeness> Figaro: The saves are located in your .minecraft/saves
#4780 [18:02] <deschriever> bye
#4781 [18:02] <Awesomeness> To access it press WIN+R type in %appdata% and go to .minecraft
#4782 [18:02] <Awesomeness> Bye Deshchriever
#4783 [18:02] <Awesomeness> Click on saves
#4784 [18:02] <figaro> \Can i save it to a flashdrive?
#4785 [18:02] <Awesomeness> and there will be all your saves
#4786 [18:02] <Awesomeness> Yes.
#4787 [18:03] <figaro> where is the WIN Button?
#4788 [18:03] <Awesomeness> Windows Button
#4789 [18:04] <Awesomeness> on your keyboard
#4790 [18:04] <Awesomeness> between ALT and CTRL
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#4792 [18:04] <figaro> r
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#4794 [18:06] <fenster> Why is it when i save on one computer and go to another, all my worlds are not their and all my hard work is gone?
#4795 [18:07] <Awesomeness> That's because, saves are saved on a ones computer.
#4796 [18:07] <Awesomeness> You go to run, type in %appdata%, click .minecraft, click SAVES
#4797 [18:07] <Awesomeness> and there are all your worlds
#4798 [18:07] <Awesomeness> From there; you can copy them to a flashdrive
#4799 [18:07] <Awesomeness> and paste them into another computer
#4800 [18:09] <fenster> thank you.
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#4803 [18:09] <fenster> Where is run?
#4804 [18:09] <Awesomeness> Hi GreyVulpine, and no problem Fenster.
#4805 [18:09] <Awesomeness> You can press WIN+R
#4806 [18:09] <Awesomeness> (Windows Key + R)
#4807 [18:10] <Awesomeness> Between alt and ctrl
#4808 [18:10] <fenster> do i press the ctrl key also?
#4809 [18:11] <Awesomeness> Nope
#4810 [18:11] <Awesomeness> Windows key and R at same time
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#4812 [18:12] <fenster> wher i press Win+R my Real player pops up.
#4813 [18:12] <Awesomeness> What os do you have?
#4814 [18:12] <fenster> What is os?
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#4816 [18:12] <Awesomeness> Operating System (like windows xp professional, windows 7)
#4817 [18:13] <fenster> i think xp
#4818 [18:13] <Awesomeness> Okay, click the button that says Start
#4819 [18:13] <Awesomeness> and click Run
#4820 [18:13] <Awesomeness> and type in %appdata% there
#4821 [18:13] <Awesomeness> and do the steps like normal.
#4822 [18:14] <fenster> there is no run button though.
#4823 [18:14] <Awesomeness> um.
#4824 [18:14] <Awesomeness> What does the start menu say?
#4825 [18:15] <Awesomeness> What options does it has?
#4826 [18:15] <xenon> right click start ...
#4827 [18:15] <Awesomeness> *have
#4828 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Awesomeness - Only XP has the run command in the start menu
#4829 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Vista and 7, has the search bar
#4830 [18:15] <Awesomeness> Grey - he said he has XP.
#4831 [18:15] <Awesomeness> <fenster> i think xp
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#4833 [18:15] <MoonShadow> hm i've got a "not on whitlelist" error, both on online and offlien version, when connecting to a friend's server, but other people have no problem with connecting and he is 100% sure that I'm on the whitelist.. what could be the matter? :o
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#4835 [18:16] <Awesomeness> MoonShadow, your friend has to add you to the whitelist.
#4836 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> MoonShadow - Have him restart the server after adding you to the list
#4837 [18:16] <Awesomeness> There is a whitelist.txt file in his server.
#4838 [18:16] <Awesomeness> And restart.
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#4840 [18:16] <Awesomeness> Grey - can I pm you?
#4841 [18:16] <MoonShadow> ok i will ask him, thx
#4842 [18:16] <PYM> He's 100% sure, but I think he has to chek it, MoonShadow. It's better :)
#4843 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, sure
#4844 [18:17] <xenon> minecraft server question ... what is a sane value for the java xmx param - lets say 40 Players ?
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#4846 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> 3-4+ gigs
#4847 [18:18] <Awesomeness> Grey, I pmed yo u
#4848 [18:18] <Awesomeness> *you
#4849 [18:18] <xenon> thx
#4850 [18:18] <TheEpicDerp> Bleh. Hello, ive been here a few times before trying to fix my "bad video drivers" problem with no luck..
#4851 [18:18] <PYM> how much upload it use per player ?
#4852 [18:19] <fenster> it has a bunch of program buttons,(Word,powerpoint, internet explorer,ect), an all programs button, My Doc's, My pics, my music, control panel, help and support, and search
#4853 [18:19] <PYM> I mean from the server
#4854 [18:19] <mib_6467c9> getting "Failed to Launch" Error when Retrieving: "lwjgl_util.jar" I have deleted and I get same error. Please help
#4855 [18:19] <TheEpicDerp> I've been looking around at stuff and I have a question.
#4856 [18:20] <mib_6467c9> Minecraft forums also no help.
#4857 [18:20] <Awesomeness> Fenster, can you please tell me if your start menu looks like this? http://www.forourgroup.com/sub/misc/savingmoney/menus/2.gif
#4858 [18:20] <fenster> yeah.
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#4860 [18:20] <Awesomeness> Okay, do you see run there?
#4861 [18:20] <fenster> except no run button.
#4862 [18:20] <Awesomeness> Hmmm
#4863 [18:21] <PYM> are u a guest on your computer fenster ?
#4864 [18:21] <fenster> i think the library might of disabled it.
#4865 [18:21] <TheEpicDerp> mib_6467c9 : Just wait a while, they help alot, trust me. ^-^'
#4866 [18:21] <mib_6467c9> PS Running Mac OS 10.6.7 Please need help.
#4867 [18:21] <Awesomeness> TheEpicDerp: Hi, can you please do a DxDiag?
#4868 [18:21] <Awesomeness> ??> TheEpicDerp win/dxdiag
#4869 [18:21] <VoxelHead> TheEpicDerp: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4870 [18:21] <VoxelHead> TheEpicDerp: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#4871 [18:21] <TheEpicDerp> Mhmmm,
#4872 [18:22] <Awesomeness> Grey, you take Mac users, okay?
#4873 [18:22] <Awesomeness> I have no experience with mac, yet.
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#4876 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_6467c9 - Are you trying to play beta through the browser?
#4877 [18:23] <WugBot> if you can't use the run button, you can always navigate to it in explorer and run it by double clicking it (it's in system32) or make a shortcut to it
#4878 [18:23] <VoxelHead> I like them =]
#4879 [18:23] <Awesomeness> Yes.
#4880 [18:23] <Awesomeness> EpicDerp: Please paste the pastebin.com file in here when you are done.
#4881 [18:24] <fenster> Wugbot, How?
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#4883 [18:24] <Awesomeness> Fenster,
#4884 [18:24] <Awesomeness> one second.
#4885 [18:24] <Keaton> hi
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#4887 [18:25] <MoonShadow> hm he said he restarted the server, is there any other possible matter for the "not on whitelist" error except for not being on the whitelist? x)
#4888 [18:25] <TheEpicDerp> Yup I've done it before :)
#4889 [18:25] <TheEpicDerp> http://pastebin.com/yyG0DPBq
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#4891 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> MoonShadow - Could he pastebin a copy of the whitelist for you?
#4892 [18:25] <Awesomeness> MoonShadow: He might of misspelled your name, please tell him to re-check.
#4893 [18:26] <Awesomeness> Card name: Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family
#4894 [18:26] <Keaton> im trying to get some mods installed on my minecraft but im getting a black scren on login
#4895 [18:26] <Awesomeness> Why are people having graphics errors with hte 9XX series
#4896 [18:26] <Keaton> can anyone help me out?
#4897 [18:26] <Awesomeness> Keaton
#4898 [18:27] <Awesomeness> ??> Keaton win/reinst
#4899 [18:27] <VoxelHead> Keaton: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4900 [18:27] <VoxelHead> Keaton: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4901 [18:27] <Awesomeness> Also
#4902 [18:27] <Awesomeness> make sure you delete META-INF
#4903 [18:27] <Awesomeness> if you are modding.
#4904 [18:27] <Keaton> i did
#4905 [18:27] <Keaton> hold on
#4906 [18:27] <Keaton> i know if i get a fresh minecraft.jar file
#4907 [18:28] <Keaton> that minecraft will start up
#4908 [18:28] <Keaton> but im trying to get optimine/optifog
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#4910 [18:28] <Keaton> to improve performance
#4911 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Then either you're not following the directions correctly, or the mod isn't updated for 1.6.6
#4912 [18:28] <Keaton> when i replace the class files i get my black screen
#4913 [18:28] <Awesomeness> You MAY be using a older version of the mod
#4914 [18:28] <Awesomeness> than your minecraft.
#4915 [18:28] <Awesomeness> Or you did something wrong as GreyVulpine said.
#4916 [18:28] <Keaton> i just got the game today honestly
#4917 [18:28] <Keaton> has it been updated recently?
#4918 [18:29] <Awesomeness> Yes
#4919 [18:29] <Awesomeness> It updated yesterday.
#4920 [18:29] <Keaton> i can understand the mods being outdated then
#4921 [18:29] <Awesomeness> 1.6.6
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#4923 [18:29] <Keaton> that's probably it
#4924 [18:29] <Keaton> ill take a look
#4925 [18:29] <Awesomeness> Most mods haven't updated.
#4926 [18:29] <Awesomeness> Make sure you check the version number
#4927 [18:29] <Awesomeness> at the thread.
#4928 [18:29] <TheEpicDerp> Awesomeness: Does it have anything to do with the fact that I dont have a Direct3D Acceleration?
#4929 [18:29] <TheEpicDerp> Or does that not matter?
#4930 [18:29] <Awesomeness> Lemme check EpicDerp
#4931 [18:29] <Keaton> this is the thread
#4932 [18:29] <Keaton> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-166-optifog-and-optimine-fps-boost/
#4933 [18:29] <Awesomeness> Well uhh
#4934 [18:30] <Awesomeness> Epic: try downloading some drivers for that
#4935 [18:30] <Awesomeness> tell me how it goes, okay
#4936 [18:30] <TheEpicDerp> I diiiiddd
#4937 [18:30] <Awesomeness> Keaton: I'm looking.
#4938 [18:30] <TheEpicDerp> Last time I was here I did
#4939 [18:30] <TheEpicDerp> Wait
#4940 [18:30] <TheEpicDerp> no
#4941 [18:30] <TheEpicDerp> I didn't try anything for Direct3D
#4942 [18:30] <TheEpicDerp> so I shall try
#4943 [18:30] <TheEpicDerp> >.<
#4944 [18:30] <Awesomeness> Okay
#4945 [18:31] <fenster> hello?
#4946 [18:31] <Awesomeness> Keaton: Did you delete META-INF
#4947 [18:31] <Awesomeness> Yes, Fenster?
#4948 [18:31] <Keaton> yes
#4949 [18:31] <Keaton> i did
#4950 [18:31] <Awesomeness> Keaton: What's your minecraft username?
#4951 [18:31] <fenster> there is still no run button
#4952 [18:31] <Keaton> Pinkyyy
#4953 [18:31] <Awesomeness> Okay
#4954 [18:32] <Wug> whats this, mod support in #minecrafthelp
#4955 [18:32] <TheEpicDerp> fenster: Can't you click the windows button on your key board + R ?
#4956 [18:32] <Awesomeness> Keaton: Okay uh, you can use TCFs Mod manager
#4957 [18:32] <Awesomeness> or such a program which installs them for you.
#4958 [18:32] <fenster> wont work all i get is the real layer poping up.
#4959 [18:32] <Awesomeness> But we can't support you if the code is buggy.
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#4961 [18:33] <Awesomeness> Fenster, are you pressing the keys at the exact same time?
#4962 [18:33] <TheEpicDerp> Weird.
#4963 [18:33] <Keaton> ok
#4964 [18:33] <Keaton> can you link me to this mod manager?
#4965 [18:33] <Keaton> ill give it a try
#4966 [18:33] <fenster> i still get nothing.
#4967 [18:33] <Awesomeness> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/132071-jar-tfcs-mod-manager-update-16-run-mc-button-and-err-rep/
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#4969 [18:34] <fenster> does it matter that i am at a library?
#4970 [18:34] <Awesomeness> GreyVulpine: can you find where the run.exe is located for Fenster?
#4971 [18:34] <Awesomeness> Oh
#4972 [18:34] <Awesomeness> well, they might of blocked it.
#4973 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> He's on a shared computer, which probably has commands locked down
#4974 [18:34] <Awesomeness> So, yes, it kinda does.
#4975 [18:34] <fenster> would it work at a school?
#4976 [18:34] <Awesomeness> We don't know
#4977 [18:35] <TheEpicDerp> Probably not.
#4978 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> Awesomeness: have. Might have.
#4979 [18:35] <fenster> can i hit the save as button when i am in the browser?
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#4981 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Welcome back DG
#4982 [18:36] <cucumber> Ohai. And wb DG.
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#4984 [18:37] <cucumber> Oh look, we are graced by the presence of an opera :P
#4985 [18:37] <cucumber> Oper*
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#4987 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Danke, GV
#4988 [18:39] <TheEpicDerp> Hopefully this finally works. :P
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#4990 [18:40] <fenster> can i hit the save as button when i am in the browser?
#4991 [18:41] <Awesomeness> You can try?
#4992 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> sure you can
#4993 [18:41] <VoxelHead> Sure you can... san.
#4994 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> whether it will do what you want it to is an whole other question.
#4995 [18:41] <gPad2002> It won't save the game or anything, but it'll save the page :P
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#4997 [18:42] <mib_iza1bq> hey
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#5000 [18:42] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :O
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#5002 [18:45] <fenster> so it wont save the worlds/ my shelters
#5003 [18:45] <fenster> ?
#5004 [18:45] <draginx> When I click login the screen just goes black and nothing else I tried deleting bin and removing .minecraft folder on OSX 10.6
#5005 [18:45] <draginx> I also tried completely re-installing
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#5007 [18:45] <Awesomeness> Hey Cial
#5008 [18:46] <fenster> so it wont save the worlds/ my shelters?
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#5010 [18:46] <binkster> hello
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#5012 [18:47] <VoxelHead> I like them :o)
#5013 [18:50] <Wug> awesomeness, for the record, there is no run.exe, its a dll call.
#5014 [18:51] <Awesomeness> ah, okay
#5015 [18:51] <Awesomeness> thank you, wasn't aware.
#5016 [18:51] <Awesomeness> :D
#5017 [18:51] <VoxelHead> :)
#5018 [18:51] <Wug> you can still run it with rundll if you know waht you're doing
#5019 [18:52] <oldtopmanserver> ??> draginx mac/profile
#5020 [18:52] <VoxelHead> draginx: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#5021 [18:52] <VoxelHead> draginx: (mac/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#5022 [18:52] <draginx> o-o
#5023 [18:52] <draginx> what if i just run it as root?
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#5025 [18:53] <Wug> you could try that but I doubt it'd help
#5026 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> What's going on with draginx?
#5027 [18:53] <ChrizC> can anybody help me with Minecraft and HD texture packs? I've patched the game, and given my Java access to 2gb of my RAM, but it still tells me out of memory with a 128x128 pack?
#5028 [18:53] <oldtopmanserver> ??> ChrizC mods
#5029 [18:53] <draginx> GreyVulpine: When I click login the screen just goes black and nothing else I tried deleting bin and removing .minecraft folder on OSX 10.6
#5030 [18:53] <VoxelHead> ChrizC: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#5031 [18:53] <Wug> mac ox 10.6, blackscreen on login, tried all sorts of uninstalling
#5032 [18:53] <VoxelHead> ChrizC: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#5033 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I see
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#5035 [18:55] <TheEpicDerp> Everyone's idling now? Ohh boy.
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#5038 [18:56] <oldtopmanserver> nope
#5039 [18:56] <TheEpicDerp> Oh good xD
#5040 [18:56] <lilybet> Sorry had to step away and got cut off.
#5041 [18:56] <hatman> What does this mean??
#5042 [18:56] <hatman> Bad video card drivers!
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#5044 [18:56] <lilybet> getting "Failed to Launch" Error when Retrieving: "lwjgl_util.jar" I have deleted and I get same error. Running Mac OS 10.6.7.
#5045 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Means your video drivers are bad, and you need to update them
#5046 [18:57] <Awesomeness> GreyVulpine, I'll help people in a sec, too
#5047 [18:57] <Awesomeness> I'm figuring something out at the moment, okay
#5048 [18:57] <hatman> What are video drivers?
#5049 [18:57] <TheEpicDerp> What exactly is OpenGL?
#5050 [18:58] <lilybet> PS have been using Minecraft for about 2-3 months without glitch. Thanks in advance for assistance.
#5051 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> See the stuff on your screen? drivers are what translate the stuff from your computer, to your monitor, letting you see what the computer's outputting
#5052 [18:58] <oldtopmanserver> hatman: Do you know of "Google"
#5053 [18:58] <oldtopmanserver> hatman: Or (A bit more complex) "Wikipedia"?
#5054 [18:59] <TheEpicDerp> ^ Good idea.
#5055 [19:00] <hatman> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#5056 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> hatman - Then you need to update your video drivers
#5057 [19:00] <hatman> How?
#5058 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#5059 [19:01] <Awesomeness> (windows xp, windows 7, mac osx lion)
#5060 [19:01] <hatman> Windows Xp, but iv been playing in browser all day.
#5061 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> ??> hatman win/dxdiag
#5062 [19:01] <draginx> When I click login the screen just goes black and nothing else I tried deleting bin and removing .minecraft folder on OSX 10.6
#5063 [19:01] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#5064 [19:01] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#5066 [19:02] <hatman> http://mibpaste.com/wtZK0a
#5067 [19:02] <mib_zyhr0k> I downloaded the game, but I can't play. It says can't connect to minecraft.net
#5068 [19:02] <mib_zyhr0k> :O
#5069 [19:03] <hatman> i was trying to launch it after i don=wnloaded it onto a flashdrive...and that poped up.
#5070 [19:03] <hatman> http://mibpaste.com/3EMw98
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#5072 [19:04] <hatman> and ive been playing all day in browser...
#5073 [19:04] <lilybet> just making sure dont get disconnect
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#5075 [19:05] <hatman> can any one help?
#5076 [19:06] <Joeq> Hi! Could anyone tell me how to downgrade minecraft to 1.5 again so I can play a server?
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#5079 [19:07] <TheEpicDerp> Joeq : they will eventually.. :P
#5080 [19:08] <hatman> i was trying to launch it after i don=wnloaded it onto a flashdrive...and that poped up. http://mibpaste.com/3EMw98
#5081 [19:08] <hatman> can any one help?
#5082 [19:08] <Joeq> Still annoying though lol. Is there a way to downgrade?
#5083 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> ??> hatman win/dxdiag
#5084 [19:09] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#5085 [19:09] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#5086 [19:09] <lilybet> keeping active
#5087 [19:10] <lilybet> just gunna sit back and watch Naruto on Hulu while I wait
#5088 [19:11] <Joeq> Could anyone tell me how to downgrade minecraft to 1.5 again so I can play a server? Is there a way to do it?
#5089 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Only if you've backed up 1.5 before updating yourself
#5090 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> People distributing older versions of minecraft is against the Terms of Service
#5091 [19:11] <Anthrophobic> thats re-tard.
#5092 [19:11] * mib_36q0t1 [mib_36q0t1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#5093 [19:11] <Anthrophobic> well..
#5094 [19:11] <Joeq> Dammit! lol, thanks anyways
#5095 [19:12] <mib_36q0t1> pixel thing
#5096 [19:12] <Anthrophobic> i can see how that would make a loop hole.. :|
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#5098 [19:12] * GreyVulpine packages trojan in an old version of minecraft, and distributes it..
#5098 [19:13] <lilybet> getting "Failed to Launch" Error when Retrieving: "lwjgl_util.jar" I have deleted and I get same error. Running Mac OS 10.6.7. Thanks for any help.
#5099 [19:13] <xolotl> relatedly, it's a shame that Mojang doesn't release signed md5sum/sha1sums of minecraft.jar
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#5101 [19:13] <TheEpicDerp> GreyVulpine: LOL <3
#5102 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> What? It'll only demand a mere 20 euros to be uninstalled off your system?
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#5104 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Provided you enter in your credit card info
#5105 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Wait 2-4 weeks
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#5108 [19:15] <VoxelHead> bye mr_fribble
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#5110 [19:15] <Jagjr> Hey guys - Is there a way i can set a Towny town as a server town?
#5111 [19:15] <Jagjr> One owned by the server?
#5112 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Try asking in #bukkit
#5113 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> We don't deal too much in server mods here
#5114 [19:15] <TheNytangel> Kealper
#5115 [19:15] <Jagjr> Ahhh ok
#5116 [19:15] <Jagjr> Thanks guys
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#5119 [19:15] <TheNytangel> Is Kealper here?
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#5121 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> !seen kealper
#5122 [19:15] <GreyBot> I last saw kealper (kealper@xales.info) 2hrs 34mins 6secs ago, talking in #minecrafthelp. They were saying: lol
#5123 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> 2 hours ago.. sure
#5124 [19:15] <wilma> hey guys im runnin on a mac for some reason when i try to download mincecraft on my mac there is no folder its just the app i can play fine but when i try to apply texture patches theres no folder popping up
#5125 [19:15] <kermit> GREY
#5126 [19:16] <dr_bibble> "An error occurred please try again later"? Is some server down or am I missing something (brand new)
#5127 [19:16] <TheNytangel> I can't connect to the chatroom in Kealper's drawing program
#5128 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> wilma - If you want to apply a texture pack, go to your mac's hard drive and go to this path ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/texturepacks
#5129 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> You can place texture packs in there
#5130 [19:17] <kermit> Grey im the person that had problem's with my computer freezing
#5131 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> dr_bibble - With what are you getting that error from?
#5132 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> kermit - I'm sorry, tons of people pass through here daily..
#5133 [19:17] <wilma> Grey i have tried that there is no minecraft in application support
#5134 [19:17] <kermit> it's alright
#5135 [19:17] <dr_bibble> I just did a download of the game and tried to run it
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#5137 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> wilma - How about /Users/yourname/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#5138 [19:17] <dr_bibble> I think, not too sure really
#5139 [19:17] <kermit> i have a problem again though
#5140 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> dr_bibble - You downloaded minecraft.exe/jar/app?
#5141 [19:18] <wilma> thanks grey it worked
#5142 [19:19] <kermit> i am able to play minecraft for bout a minute again and then my screen goes white and i cant do anything, i can move my mouse and close tab but i cant go back to playing
#5143 [19:19] <dr_bibble> I just downloaded Minecraft application
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#5145 [19:19] <wilma> how do i apply new worlds
#5146 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> wilma - in /minecraft/saves
#5147 [19:20] <mib_1h4z2p> I need help downloading the game
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#5149 [19:20] <dr_bibble> I guss I am confused as to how to start it
#5150 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> dr_bibble - Could you perhaps give us a screenshot? I'm unclear as to how you're getting that error
#5151 [19:20] <dr_bibble> When I click that app, it brings me to a little page and when I try to log in it says I am not a premium user
#5152 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Upload it to imgur.com or an image host of your choice
#5153 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> dr_bibble - Did you purchase an account at minecraft.net?
#5154 [19:21] <dr_bibble> no, do I have to purchase it now or is it still free?
#5155 [19:21] <TheEpicDerp> I'M SO SCREWED
#5156 [19:21] <kermit> this just started to happen tonight while i was biulding a mob farm
#5157 [19:21] <TheEpicDerp> NOTHINGS WORKING
#5158 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> dr_bibble - Beta is not free, you need to purchase an account to play that. Classic on the other hand, is.
#5159 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Classic's available on the website only, not as a download
#5160 [19:21] <lilybet> getting "Failed to Launch" Error when Retrieving: "lwjgl_util.jar" I have deleted and I get same error. Running Mac OS 10.6.7. Please help
#5161 [19:21] <mib_1h4z2p> Can i get help installing the game?
#5162 [19:21] <dr_bibble> um, ok maybe it was the beta I was trying to download
#5163 [19:22] <kermit> i am able to play minecraft for bout a minute again and then my screen goes white and i cant do anything, i can move my mouse and close tab but i cant go back to playing
#5164 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> kermit - Try a reinstall of java, and an update of your video drivers.
#5165 [19:22] <kermit> my video driver's are fine
#5166 [19:22] <kermit> i just updated
#5167 [19:23] <dr_bibble> I went to the download page and downloaded the second link under windows (the first link was hanging on me) and thats what I have
#5168 [19:23] <dr_bibble> When I click on that and try to login, it tells me I am not a premium user
#5169 [19:23] <dr_bibble> So is that the beta download then?
#5170 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> dr_bibble - Yeah, that's beta, you need to purchase an account to play it
#5171 [19:23] <kermit> since the 1.6 came out i have been fine with my graphic card's but until now i cant do anything
#5172 [19:23] <dr_bibble> Ah ok, so I have to go look for the classic then, thanks
#5173 [19:24] <mib_1h4z2p> I need help installing minecraft!
#5174 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_1h4z2p - What kind of help?
#5175 [19:24] <mib_1h4z2p> I became very confused when trying to download
#5176 [19:24] <kermit> how would i reinstall java, reinstalling is my only option then
#5177 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> kermit - Depends on what operating system you're on
#5178 [19:25] <kermit> could it be cause im playing it 24/7
#5179 [19:25] <dr_bibble> Ok I am running now thatnks for the help!
#5180 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> dr_bibble - Sure thing
#5181 [19:26] <mib_1h4z2p> i created an account and purchased minecraft, but i can't install it
#5182 [19:26] <kermit> im on window's XP
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#5184 [19:26] <obi_wan> Anyone here to help me?
#5185 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_1h4z2p - Alright, did you download the client at http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp ?
#5186 [19:26] <mib_1h4z2p> let me check
#5187 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> kermit - Start -> control panel -> add/remove programs -> uninstall java from there
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#5189 [19:27] <mib_1h4z2p> yes i downloaded it
#5190 [19:27] <OHgod> sup guys
#5191 [19:27] <kermit> wht happen's when i uninstall it?
#5192 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> mib_1h4z2p - Which one did you download?
#5193 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> kermit - You'll then reinstall java from java.com
#5194 [19:28] <OHgod> do i have to download a new mod like the more item mod? because it wont work now
#5195 [19:28] <mib_1h4z2p> the very first one
#5196 [19:28] <lilybet> Is there anyone to help? I see a lot of others arrive and get immediate answers. again: getting "Failed to Launch" Error when Retrieving: "lwjgl_util.jar" I have deleted and I get same error. Running Mac OS 10.6.7.
#5197 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> OHgod - Do you have to download a mod? No. If you install a mod incorrectly, minecraft will black screen
#5198 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> OHgod - To get around this, use the launcher's "Options" button, and use the force update command
#5199 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> That'll force minecraft to download original files again
#5200 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_1h4z2p - Alright, what happens when you try to run the file in windows?
#5201 [19:29] <kermit> alrighty grey, i have to run, ill try that in a bit
#5202 [19:29] <OHgod> K i am having a glitch as well all my gold blocks have fire inside of them and its really annoying
#5203 [19:29] <OHgod> My whole city is made of gold blocks
#5204 [19:29] <mib_1h4z2p> i cant find anything to open it with
#5205 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_1h4z2p - Add the extension, ".exe" to the file
#5206 [19:30] <kermit> ty for the help Grey
#5207 [19:30] <OHgod> Is there anyway to get the fire out of my gold blocks?
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#5210 [19:31] <mib_1h4z2p> i tried and it is telling me to choose a program to open this file
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#5212 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_1h4z2p - Try reinstalling java from http://www.java.com
#5213 [19:32] <mib_1h4z2p> ok
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#5216 [19:33] <mib_1h4z2p> ok java is reinstalled
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#5221 [19:33] <SlashLife> I make a mean guacamole. :>
#5222 [19:34] <obi_wan> Grey, i have a question about hosting a Minecraft server with my own computer
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#5224 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#5225 [19:34] <Awesomeness> Ok, I can help people as well now. :)
#5226 [19:34] <obi_wan> When it says "105 mb free" is that talking about ram, or proccessor?
#5227 [19:35] <lilybet> great, could you help me please
#5228 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> RAM
#5229 [19:35] <senna> out of the blue i'm getting failure to launch problems
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#5231 [19:35] <Awesomeness> Hi Lilybet, what's the issue?
#5232 [19:35] <mib_1h4z2p> it still says i need to choose a program to run minecraft on and nothing i have works
#5233 [19:35] <obi_wan> Ok, so how do i let it use more Ram?
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#5235 [19:35] <lilybet> getting "Failed to Launch" Error when Retrieving: "lwjgl_util.jar" I have deleted and I get same error. Running Mac OS 10.6.7.
#5236 [19:35] <lilybet> thanks
#5237 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - That depends, do you have more than a gig free available on the system?
#5238 [19:35] <Awesomeness> uhh
#5239 [19:35] <obi_wan> yep
#5240 [19:35] <mib_g7a2nc> i have a mac, and i just bought minecraft, how to i play the multiplayer in my browser?
#5241 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Also, are you running a 32 or 64-bit OS?
#5242 [19:35] <Awesomeness> ??> lilybet mac/reinst
#5243 [19:36] <VoxelHead> lilybet: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#5244 [19:36] <VoxelHead> lilybet: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#5245 [19:36] <obi_wan> 32 bit XP
#5246 [19:36] <mib_g7a2nc> when i click on the servers, its just a black screan
#5247 [19:36] <Awesomeness> Try that lilybet.
#5248 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Oof.. um alright
#5249 [19:36] <obi_wan> I have 3GB free ram
#5250 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - The max you can increase the java's heap size to on a 32-bit XP machine is 2 gigs
#5251 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Default is 1 gig.
#5252 [19:36] <senna> im getting an error while launching that says it was in the process of retrieving from the .jar and it stops
#5253 [19:36] <obi_wan> If its 1 gig, why is it only at 100mb?
#5254 [19:36] <lilybet> I will give that a try, I had only move the offending file first (did not work)
#5255 [19:37] <Awesomeness> Give it a try, tell me if it works!
#5256 [19:37] <Awesomeness> Senna, what OS are you running?
#5257 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - It's reserving a gig of RAM at start, but only reporting back that it's using 100 megs so far
#5258 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> nothing to worry about there
#5259 [19:37] <senna> mac os 10.6
#5260 [19:37] <mib_g7a2nc> i have a mac, i just bought minecraft, when i go on the minecraft website to play the mulitplayer servers, and when i click on the servers it just shows a black screen, the game wont load?
#5261 [19:37] <obi_wan> ohh, so as i play / more people join then itl get higher?
#5262 [19:37] <Awesomeness> As I said
#5263 [19:37] <Awesomeness> Try this
#5264 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Yes
#5265 [19:38] <Awesomeness> ??> Senna mac/reinst
#5266 [19:38] <VoxelHead> Senna: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#5267 [19:38] <VoxelHead> Senna: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#5268 [19:38] <obi_wan> how do i increase the heap size to 2gb? just for reference
#5269 [19:38] <lilybet> Thanks Voxelhead, that worked.
#5270 [19:38] <lilybet> good evening
#5271 [19:38] <Awesomeness> Oi, I helped. D:
#5272 [19:38] <Awesomeness> Voxel isn't alive. D:
#5273 [19:38] <mib_1h4z2p> GreyVulpine, I purchased minecraft and installed it on my desktop and when i try to open it from desktop, it tells me to "choose the program you want to use to open this file" and nothing i choose will open it
#5274 [19:38] <mib_g7a2nc> some one help me? :(
#5275 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - You'll want to download the .jar file and execute it with a batch file. the example command line is on the website
#5276 [19:38] <Awesomeness> Well, good day!
#5277 [19:38] <lilybet> Sorry awesome, you are awesome
#5278 [19:38] <Awesomeness> Haha, thank you
#5279 [19:38] <VoxelHead> Release me! release me or suffer the wrath of VoxelHead.
#5280 [19:38] <Awesomeness> Have fun
#5281 [19:39] <mib_g7a2nc> help me pleasee
#5282 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - For reference, the -Xms argument states how much RAM is allocated at the beginning, and the -Xmx argument states how much it'll grow to
#5283 [19:39] <mib_g7a2nc> i cant even play with anybody
#5284 [19:39] <mib_g7a2nc> heres my problem:
#5285 [19:39] <Awesomeness> Yes, mib?
#5286 [19:39] <mib_g7a2nc> i have a mac, i just bought minecraft, when i go on the minecraft website to play the mulitplayer servers, and when i click on the servers it just shows a black screen, the game wont load?
#5287 [19:39] <obi_wan> Can you link me the the command? i have no clue where to look. im not good at this stuff
#5288 [19:39] <Awesomeness> lol
#5289 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#5290 [19:39] <Awesomeness> ??> mib_g7a2nc mac/reinst
#5291 [19:39] <VoxelHead> mib_g7a2nc: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#5292 [19:39] <VoxelHead> mib_g7a2nc: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#5293 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> The example command line is available at the bottom
#5294 [19:39] <Awesomeness> Try that..
#5295 [19:40] <mib_g7a2nc> okayy
#5296 [19:40] <obi_wan> you sais something about a batch file
#5297 [19:40] <obi_wan> im confused how to do that
#5298 [19:40] <mib_g7a2nc> whats the bin folder?
#5299 [19:40] <Awesomeness> Bin folder
#5300 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - If you do decide to go that route, just come back here and we'll walk you through it
#5301 [19:40] <Awesomeness> In Minecraft
#5302 [19:40] <mib_g7a2nc> alright
#5303 [19:40] <Awesomeness> Application Support -> Minecraft -> Bin
#5304 [19:41] <mib_g7a2nc> ill give it a try
#5305 [19:41] <obi_wan> im confused how to launch as a batch file
#5306 [19:41] <Awesomeness> Okay, good luck!
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#5308 [19:41] <VoxelHead> mmm pheleas_frog
#5309 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - All it entails is setting up a text file with commands listed in there, and a .bat extension
#5310 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> obi_wan - Again, just come back here if you need help with it
#5311 [19:41] <obi_wan> all the commands in the download section?
#5312 [19:42] <mib_g7a2nc> minecraft doesnt even show up in my application support :( ?
#5313 [19:42] <mib_g7a2nc> its nnot there
#5314 [19:42] <Awesomeness> What's your username, mib g7a2nc?
#5315 [19:42] <mib_g7a2nc> KaddyHD
#5316 [19:42] <Awesomeness> !Paid KaddyHD
#5317 [19:42] <Awesomeness> Oi..
#5318 [19:42] <mib_1h4z2p> HELP! I purchased minecraft and installed it on my desktop and when i try to open it from desktop, it tells me "choose the program you want to use to open this file" and nothing i choose will run it!
#5319 [19:42] <mib_g7a2nc> yes i have
#5320 [19:42] <Awesomeness> Have you perhaps accidently changed the location?
#5321 [19:42] <mib_g7a2nc> i think so
#5322 [19:42] <mib_g7a2nc> what do i do?
#5323 [19:43] <Awesomeness> Go to finder (I think that's what it's called) and search for bin
#5324 [19:43] <Awesomeness> If you find anything that's linked to minecraft
#5325 [19:43] <Awesomeness> move it to application support
#5326 [19:43] <mib_g7a2nc> ok
#5327 [19:43] <Awesomeness> mib_1h4z2p, what is the OS you are using?
#5328 [19:44] <mib_g7a2nc> i think i moved some stuff to trash but ill move it back to application
#5329 [19:44] <mib_1h4z2p> OS?
#5330 [19:44] <mib_g7a2nc> OS X
#5331 [19:44] <obi_wan> Im so confused.
#5332 [19:44] <mib_g7a2nc> 10.6.7
#5333 [19:44] <Awesomeness> Operating System.
#5334 [19:44] <Awesomeness> Wait g7a2nc, I'm help 1h4z2p.
#5335 [19:44] <mib_g7a2nc> 2.26 GHz Intel Core Duo
#5336 [19:44] <Awesomeness> *helping
#5337 [19:45] <mib_1h4z2p> i am not good with this stuff
#5338 [19:45] <mib_1h4z2p> what are examples
#5339 [19:45] <Awesomeness> What's your Operating System?
#5340 [19:45] <Awesomeness> Like Windows 7, Windows XP?
#5341 [19:45] <Awesomeness> MAC OSX?
#5342 [19:45] <mib_g7a2nc> i just have a macbook
#5343 [19:45] <mib_g7a2nc> yes
#5344 [19:45] <mib_1h4z2p> yes windows 7
#5345 [19:45] <obi_wan> guess il just try the forums for help
#5346 [19:45] <Awesomeness> G7a2nc: not you.
#5347 [19:45] <mib_g7a2nc> ohh
#5348 [19:45] <mib_g7a2nc> lol
#5349 [19:45] <mib_g7a2nc> okay
#5350 [19:45] <Awesomeness> 1h4z2p: okay
#5351 [19:45] <Awesomeness> Download this file, and run it
#5352 [19:46] <Awesomeness> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#5353 [19:46] <mib_g7a2nc> me?
#5354 [19:46] <mib_1h4z2p> okay
#5355 [19:46] <mib_g7a2nc> oh nvm
#5356 [19:47] <mib_1h4z2p> okay i ran it
#5357 [19:47] <Awesomeness> Well, does it work?
#5358 [19:47] <Awesomeness> It's Minecraft
#5359 [19:47] <mib_1h4z2p> my sign in isnt working
#5360 [19:47] <mib_1h4z2p> it says...
#5361 [19:48] <mib_1h4z2p> User not premium
#5362 [19:48] <Awesomeness> Are you sure you are using KadddyHD?
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#5364 [19:48] <mib_g7a2nc> thats not me
#5365 [19:48] <mib_1h4z2p> i have no idea
#5366 [19:48] <mib_g7a2nc> im KaddyHD
#5367 [19:48] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE KaddyHD? feel these nipples!
#5368 [19:48] <Awesomeness> Voxel, shush.
#5369 [19:48] <mib_g7a2nc> i have premium
#5370 [19:49] <mib_g7a2nc> i bout it last night
#5371 [19:49] <mib_1h4z2p> it says user not premium
#5372 [19:49] <Awesomeness> ooooh.
#5373 [19:49] <Awesomeness> 1h4z2p: what's the login you use.
#5374 [19:49] <mib_g7a2nc> because u dont have my password !
#5375 [19:49] <mib_g7a2nc> i do
#5376 [19:49] <Awesomeness> 1h4z2p: what is the login you use to login to Minecraft?
#5377 [19:50] <mib_1h4z2p> when i first went to minecraft.net i used my account to try to sign in just now
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#5379 [19:50] <Awesomeness> 1h4z2p
#5380 [19:50] <mib_1h4z2p> yes?
#5381 [19:50] <Awesomeness> Please tell me the Minecraft Username you are using
#5382 [19:50] <Awesomeness> to login.
#5383 [19:50] <mib_1h4z2p> rmhsoccer7
#5384 [19:50] <Awesomeness> !Paid rmhsoccer7
#5385 [19:51] <Awesomeness> You haven't bought the game.
#5386 [19:51] <mib_1h4z2p> huh?
#5387 [19:51] <mib_1h4z2p> i just bought it
#5388 [19:51] <Awesomeness> Oh, like a couple hours ago?
#5389 [19:51] <mib_g7a2nc> i can play minecraft only single player
#5390 [19:51] <mib_1h4z2p> like an hour ago
#5391 [19:51] <mib_g7a2nc> i just wanna find out how to play on my internet browser
#5392 [19:51] <Anthrophobic> !paid jetbalrog
#5393 [19:51] <Awesomeness> 1h4z2p: then it is still processing, everything is fine
#5394 [19:51] <Awesomeness> this is not a issue. :)
#5395 [19:51] <Awesomeness> Just wait
#5396 [19:52] <mib_1h4z2p> how long until i sign in
#5397 [19:52] <mib_g7a2nc> okk
#5398 [19:52] <Awesomeness> You should be able to play in 4 hours or so. :)
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#5401 [19:52] <mib_g7a2nc> i should be able to? KaddyHD
#5402 [19:52] <mib_1h4z2p> okay thank you so much :)
#5403 [19:52] <Awesomeness> You're welcome, 1h4z2p
#5404 [19:52] <Awesomeness> KaddyHD, I'm not talking to you.
#5405 [19:52] <Awesomeness> lol
#5406 [19:52] <Awesomeness> I was helping another user.
#5407 [19:52] <mib_g7a2nc> aww :(
#5408 [19:52] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: say /nick KaddyHD
#5409 [19:52] <Awesomeness> Okay, did you move your bin to application support?
#5410 [19:53] <Awesomeness> Xales!
#5411 [19:53] <Awesomeness> You're back!
#5412 [19:53] <mib_g7a2nc> one sec
#5413 [19:53] <Awesomeness> I'll pm you some important stuffs
#5414 [19:53] <mib_g7a2nc> i dont understand what exactly a bin is
#5415 [19:54] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: what is the problem you are experiencing?
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#5417 [19:54] <Awesomeness> It's a folder with all your .jar Files
#5418 [19:54] <mib_g7a2nc> i wanna play minecraft on my browser like the multiplayer
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#5420 [19:54] <draginx> When I click login the screen just goes black and nothing else I tried deleting bin and removing .minecraft folder on OSX 10.6
#5421 [19:54] <xales> Why would you play in your browser?
#5422 [19:54] <mib_g7a2nc> but when i click on a server theres just a black scrreen
#5423 [19:54] <xales> Just use the download version
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#5425 [19:54] <mib_g7a2nc> because then isnt that the way i can play with people?
#5426 [19:55] <xales> No
#5427 [19:55] <Awesomeness> Xales: he/she also has MAC OSX btw
#5428 [19:55] <mib_g7a2nc> every ip i type in doesnt work
#5429 [19:55] <mib_g7a2nc> i paid for minecraft to
#5430 [19:55] <xales> And you think using the browser version will magically make them work?
#5431 [19:55] <xales> The servers you are trying just aren't running. That is all
#5432 [19:56] <mib_g7a2nc> lol no, i wanna play in a big server through my browser
#5433 [19:56] <xales> draginx: You deleted the entire .minecraft folder?
#5434 [19:56] <mib_g7a2nc> like in a server where there huge buildings and stuff
#5435 [19:56] <xales> Again, the browser version does not work properly on Mac OS
#5436 [19:56] <Awesomeness> So many OSX users here.
#5437 [19:56] <mib_g7a2nc> idk
#5438 [19:56] <xales> You have to use the download clinet
#5439 [19:56] <mib_g7a2nc> ohhhh
#5440 [19:56] <xales> client*
#5441 [19:56] <mib_g7a2nc> well ill just use the download client...
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#5443 [19:56] <Awesomeness> Wait
#5444 [19:56] <xales> That's what I've been telling you to do..
#5445 [19:57] <mib_g7a2nc> but can you help me find ip..
#5446 [19:57] <Awesomeness> you are telling me, all this time
#5447 [19:57] <Awesomeness> I've been helping you
#5448 [19:57] <Awesomeness> that you don't have download version
#5449 [19:57] <Awesomeness> but you're saying you don't have a bin folder?
#5450 [19:57] <Awesomeness> ............
#5451 [19:57] <mib_g7a2nc> i have the downloaded version..
#5452 [19:57] <xales> ??> mib_g7a2nc smp/servers
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#5454 [19:57] <VoxelHead> mib_g7a2nc: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
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#5456 [19:57] <mib_g7a2nc> i bought the game..
#5457 [19:57] <VoxelHead> mib_g7a2nc: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#5458 [19:57] <mib_g7a2nc> alright 1 sec
#5459 [19:57] <richie001> I have a problem with my minecraft during gameplay, can anyone help me?
#5460 [19:58] <xales> ??> richie001 ask
#5461 [19:58] <VoxelHead> richie001: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#5462 [19:58] <VoxelHead> richie001: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#5464 [19:58] <richie001> No, it's not that. I just don't know how to describe it. Anyone got a e-mail address I can show you a picture of what my screen is doing during gameplay. It's hard to describe.
#5465 [19:58] <Awesomeness> Richie, I'll be happy to bhelp.
#5466 [19:59] <Awesomeness> Use imageshack.us!
#5467 [19:59] <xales> richie001: give us a link to the image, use imgur.com or similar
#5468 [19:59] <VoxelHead> bye mr_trousers
#5469 [19:59] <Awesomeness> Xales, I'm taking this one
#5470 [19:59] <Awesomeness> >.>
#5471 [19:59] <xales> orly
#5472 [19:59] * Awesomeness pushes Xales away. D:
#5472 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> no fighting over the end-users!
#5473 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> there's plenty for everyonw
#5474 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> s/w/e/
#5475 [20:00] <richie001> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/gameplay.gif/
#5476 [20:00] <Awesomeness> Can you do a DxDiag, please?
#5477 [20:00] <Awesomeness> ??> Richie001 win/dxdiag
#5478 [20:00] <TheNytangel> images hack >:o
#5479 [20:00] <VoxelHead> Richie001: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
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#5481 [20:00] <VoxelHead> Richie001: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#5482 [20:00] <TheNytangel> thats suspicious
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#5485 [20:00] <mib_g7a2nc> hey i found a server, but when i type it in a "connect" its says Bad Login
#5486 [20:01] <xales> Did you "try" Minecraft before you bought it?
#5487 [20:01] <Awesomeness> Yeah, 'trying' is a bad idea.
#5488 [20:01] <Awesomeness> it leaves some nasty code
#5489 [20:01] <Awesomeness> which is hard to get rid of afterwards.
#5490 [20:02] <draginx> xales: yes
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#5492 [20:03] <mib_g7a2nc> yea i had the beta
#5493 [20:03] <mib_g7a2nc> i played on that for a long time
#5494 [20:03] <mib_g7a2nc> made single player maps
#5495 [20:03] <xales> _before_ you bought it?
#5496 [20:03] <mib_g7a2nc> yess.... :/
#5497 [20:03] <xales> well, that is why it doesn't work
#5498 [20:03] <Awesomeness> oh snap!
#5499 [20:03] <mib_g7a2nc> how can i get it to work?
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#5501 [20:03] <Awesomeness> That's a good question.
#5502 [20:04] <xales> ??> mib_g7a2nc win/hosts
#5503 [20:04] <VoxelHead> mib_g7a2nc: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#5504 [20:04] <VoxelHead> mib_g7a2nc: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#5505 [20:04] <Awesomeness> Xales
#5506 [20:04] <Awesomeness> she/he has OSX
#5507 [20:04] <Awesomeness> lol
#5508 [20:04] <mib_g7a2nc> he*
#5509 [20:04] <mib_g7a2nc> yea i have a mac.
#5510 [20:05] <xales> bleh
#5511 [20:05] <xales> ??> mib_g7a2nc mac/hosts
#5512 [20:05] <xales> that doesn't exist? :(
#5513 [20:05] <xales> ??> mib_g7a2nc linux/hosts
#5514 [20:05] <richie001> k, did all that, and posted it on pastebin, where's the link after i click submit?
#5515 [20:05] <xales> blrblrblr
#5516 [20:05] <Awesomeness> lol Xales
#5517 [20:05] <xales> richie001: address bar
#5518 [20:05] <Awesomeness> That's why I had trouble helping him, as well.
#5519 [20:05] <Awesomeness> :P
#5520 [20:05] <Awesomeness> Have fun! <3
#5521 [20:05] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: open Terminal in Applications -> Utilities
#5522 [20:05] <xales> type 'cat /etc/hosts'
#5523 [20:05] <xales> hit enter
#5524 [20:05] <richie001> http://pastebin.com/xHKbXSZE
#5525 [20:05] <mib_g7a2nc> ok brb ill do it
#5526 [20:05] <xales> then copy everything you see to pastebin.com and give us the link
#5527 [20:06] <xales> richie001: oh wow...
#5528 [20:06] <xales> and Minecraft actually _runs_ on that?
#5529 [20:06] <richie001> yeah
#5530 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> ...
#5531 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> That's a new one
#5532 [20:06] <Awesomeness> Card name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
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#5534 [20:07] <xales> Awesomeness: that card should run it...somewhat
#5535 [20:07] <xales> but look at the RAM
#5536 [20:07] <mib_g7a2nc> command not found
#5537 [20:07] <Awesomeness> That's....
#5538 [20:07] <Awesomeness> a
#5539 [20:07] <xales> not to mention
#5540 [20:07] <Awesomeness> bit... ....bad.
#5541 [20:07] <xales> err
#5542 [20:07] <richie001> I turned the hardware acceleration to less than half because I read somewhere if you had where it said bad video card then it wouldn't work, but I didn't have that message, just thought I'd try it
#5543 [20:07] <xales> Display Tab 1: No problems found. Direct3D functionality not available. You should verify that the driver is a final version from the hardware manufacturer.
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#5545 [20:07] <Awesomeness> lol
#5546 [20:07] <mib_g7a2nc> do i type it all in at the same time or enter between each?
#5547 [20:07] <richie001> Yeah, I got 512MB of ram, or are you talking about my video card ram
#5548 [20:07] <Fruitmand> Hello, anyone has any idea how to fix that "minecraft has run out of memory " error?
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#5550 [20:07] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: you type 'cat /etc/hosts' without the ' and then you hit enter
#5551 [20:07] <onix> hello
#5552 [20:07] <VoxelHead> And thaaan?
#5553 [20:07] <xales> richie001: 512MB of RAM is....not enough for _anything_ modern
#5554 [20:08] <mib_g7a2nc> oohh
#5555 [20:08] <xales> Minecraft shouldn't even work on it
#5556 [20:08] <VoxelHead> mmm onix
#5557 [20:08] <mib_g7a2nc> didnt doo that
#5558 [20:08] <mib_g7a2nc> i put the '
#5559 [20:08] <Fruitmand> im running with 8gb triple channel and still run out of memory for some odd reason
#5560 [20:08] <Fruitmand> 2x gtx 480 sli
#5561 [20:08] <richie001> well, here's the thing, when I used to use the latest driver, my windows screen the colors would look all messed up and I would have a very low quality color
#5562 [20:08] <Awesomeness> Fruit, you're so cool! Can I have your autograph?
#5563 [20:08] <xales> Fruitmand: 64-bit Java?
#5564 [20:08] <Fruitmand> nothing to do with being cool
#5565 [20:08] * mib_q2jcqx [mib_q2jcqx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#5566 [20:08] <Fruitmand> but i just want to know whats wrong
#5567 [20:08] <Awesomeness> X64 Windows?
#5568 [20:08] <xales> richie001: again..you can't expect it to run on a computer that old
#5569 [20:08] <Awesomeness> X64 Java?
#5570 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Awesomeness - Cut it out
#5571 [20:09] <Fruitmand> yea x64 windows
#5572 [20:09] <Fruitmand> dunno about the java ;o
#5573 [20:09] <richie001> but is that what you're suggested, try getting the lastest driver? Or do you have any other suggestions.
#5574 [20:09] <Awesomeness> Use verify java
#5575 [20:09] <richie001> er suggesting*
#5576 [20:09] <Fruitmand> how to do that? verify java>?
#5577 [20:09] <xales> richie001: Given the age of the computer, you really should think about getting a new one
#5578 [20:09] <xales> there is absolutely no way it will run properly on that, if at all
#5579 [20:09] <mib_g7a2nc> nothing comes upp !!!!!
#5580 [20:09] <Awesomeness> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
#5581 [20:09] <mib_g7a2nc> im so done
#5582 [20:09] <mib_g7a2nc> im so upset
#5583 [20:09] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: then you aren't following the directions
#5584 [20:09] <mib_g7a2nc> cant even play online
#5585 [20:09] <xales> (also, it's your own fault for stealing it)
#5586 [20:09] <richie001> No thanks. This one runs a lot of stuff very good, but thanks for helping me out.
#5587 [20:10] <mib_g7a2nc> i didnt steal
#5588 [20:10] <xales> yes, you did
#5589 [20:10] <mib_g7a2nc> it was a betaa
#5590 [20:10] <mib_g7a2nc> did i?
#5591 [20:10] <richie001> Btw, anyone know if minecraftforfree.com is legit?
#5592 [20:10] <xales> uh, no
#5593 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> richie001 - It is not
#5594 [20:10] <Awesomeness> Nothing of that kind is legit.
#5595 [20:10] <Awesomeness> Do not trust them your info.
#5596 [20:10] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: if you played Minecraft without buying it, then you were stealing
#5597 [20:10] <Awesomeness> Except if you played Creative. lol
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#5599 [20:11] <xales> he specifically said beta
#5600 [20:11] <xales> ._.
#5601 [20:11] <mib_g7a2nc> it was a beta lol i couldnt even play online
#5602 [20:11] <Awesomeness> oh, yeah.
#5603 [20:11] <xales> so yes
#5604 [20:11] <richie001> even though I can't get online and can only play singleplayer?
#5605 [20:11] <Fruitmand> it says: Congratulations, you have the recommended java installed
#5606 [20:11] <Fruitmand> version 6 update 25
#5607 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> The beta wasn't, and still isn't free
#5608 [20:11] <mib_g7a2nc> yea i played single player
#5609 [20:11] <xales> Fruitmand: download the 64-bit version from there
#5610 [20:11] <xales> ??> richie001 requirements
#5611 [20:11] <VoxelHead> richie001: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#5612 [20:11] <Awesomeness> Single player or not
#5613 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> if you wanted to play beta, you would have had to pay for it mib_g7a2nc
#5614 [20:11] <Awesomeness> Pirating is still horrible.
#5615 [20:11] <Awesomeness> You should of bought it from the start :/
#5616 [20:11] <VoxelHead> "should have" =)
#5617 [20:12] <mib_g7a2nc> my mom didnt let me
#5618 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Saying, "It's a beta, I should play it for free" is not a valid excuse
#5619 [20:12] <xales> Hey GreyVulpine
#5620 [20:12] <xales> My mom didn't buy me a car
#5621 [20:12] <xales> so I stole one!
#5622 [20:12] * GreyVulpine snerks
#5622 [20:12] <mib_g7a2nc> thats differnt bro
#5623 [20:12] <mib_g7a2nc> a car
#5624 [20:12] <xales> Actually, it's not
#5625 [20:12] <richie001> Well, that makes sense, because I tried to get on singleplayer of minecraft without a premium account on a new computer that hadn't visited minecraftforfree.com, the official launcher said, game not downloaded, even though I downloaded it from their website. (the one that everyone can download)
#5626 [20:12] <mib_g7a2nc> so i wasted my money
#5627 [20:12] <mib_g7a2nc> for nothing
#5628 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> richie001 - You still got minecraft from a non-official source, which gave out files it should've have
#5629 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> thus, pirating it
#5630 [20:13] <mib_g7a2nc> im sorry for pirating it guys
#5631 [20:13] <mib_g7a2nc> i didnt know..
#5632 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> I can break into a dealership, grab the car keys, and drive off with a car, that car still isn't mine to keep
#5633 [20:13] <mib_g7a2nc> lol
#5634 [20:13] <mib_g7a2nc> its so differnt
#5635 [20:13] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: No, you paid for something which you had previously acquired illegally. Your inability to follow my instructions is why it continues to not function
#5636 [20:13] <xales> And really, it isn't different at all
#5637 [20:13] <richie001> K, thanks for the info
#5638 [20:14] <mib_g7a2nc> a car compared to a pixel game worth 20$ on a computer
#5639 [20:14] <xales> even less so as far as the law is concerned
#5640 [20:14] <xales> It doesn't really matter _what_ it is
#5641 [20:14] <mib_g7a2nc> my oppinion it does but watever
#5642 [20:14] <xales> it's still morally (and in most countries), legally wrong
#5643 [20:14] <mib_g7a2nc> can you help me fix this?
#5644 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_g7a2nc - Then continue to pirate softwre and games, don't expect support for it when it breaks
#5645 [20:15] <mib_g7a2nc> or theres no way?
#5646 [20:15] <Awesomeness> <@xales> Hey GreyVulpine
#5647 [20:15] <Awesomeness> <@xales> My mom didn't buy me a car
#5648 [20:15] <Awesomeness> <@xales> so I stole one!
#5649 [20:15] <Awesomeness> I'm going to die laughing.
#5650 [20:15] <mib_g7a2nc> i didnt even now
#5651 [20:15] * VoxelHead kicked Awesomeness from #minecrafthelp (Reason: flood)
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#5653 [20:15] <mib_g7a2nc> omg
#5654 [20:15] <Awesomeness> oi >.>
#5655 [20:15] <mib_g7a2nc> omg
#5656 [20:15] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: If you want help
#5657 [20:15] <mib_g7a2nc> you guys are so frusterating
#5658 [20:15] <xales> you have to follow the instructions I give you
#5659 [20:15] <xales> ._.
#5660 [20:15] <mib_q2jcqx> does anyone know what the cannot create java virtual machine error is for
#5661 [20:15] <mib_g7a2nc> okay
#5662 [20:15] <mib_g7a2nc> ill follow
#5663 [20:15] <mib_g7a2nc> every step
#5664 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_q2jcqx - uninstall and reinstall java
#5665 [20:16] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: once again
#5666 [20:16] <xales> open Terminal
#5667 [20:16] <mib_g7a2nc> done
#5668 [20:16] <xales> type, without the quotes, "cat /etc/hosts"
#5669 [20:16] <xales> then press enter
#5670 [20:16] <xales> then, copy everything it says, and paste it on http://pastebin.com
#5671 [20:16] <xales> then, give us the link to it
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#5673 [20:17] <mib_g7a2nc> it say no file or directory :(
#5674 [20:17] <Awesomeness> xales; does a 'hosts.file' even exist on mac osx?
#5675 [20:17] <xales> Of course
#5676 [20:18] <Awesomeness> odd
#5677 [20:18] <xales> The Windows hosts file is a (bad) ripoff of how UNIX does DNS lookups
#5678 [20:18] <mib_g7a2nc> command not found
#5679 [20:18] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: you aren't typing it correctly
#5680 [20:18] <Awesomeness> Well, mac is based off Unix
#5681 [20:18] <Awesomeness> they did change quite a few things tho.
#5682 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> hmm
#5683 [20:18] <Awesomeness> Meh, oh well.
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#5685 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> /private/etc/hosts ?
#5686 [20:18] <mib_g7a2nc> cat/etc/hosts
#5687 [20:18] <xales> GreyVulpine: /etc -> /private/etc
#5688 [20:18] <xales> (-> = symlink)
#5689 [20:19] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: That's not what the instructions said, is it?
#5690 [20:19] <Awesomeness> lmao
#5691 [20:19] <mib_g7a2nc> you said open terminal
#5692 [20:19] <dr_bibble> Help with minecraft beta crashing after downloading a texture pack? >.<
#5693 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> ??> dr_bibble win/reinst
#5694 [20:19] <VoxelHead> dr_bibble: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#5695 [20:19] <mib_g7a2nc> type in 'cat/etc/hosts'
#5696 [20:19] <VoxelHead> dr_bibble: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#5697 [20:19] <Awesomeness> Ok, let's re-see.
#5698 [20:19] <Awesomeness> He said cat /etc/hosts, but you did cat/etc/hosts
#5699 [20:19] <dr_bibble> thank you!
#5700 [20:19] <Awesomeness> See the difference?
#5701 [20:20] <mib_g7a2nc> cat(space) ?
#5702 [20:20] <dr_bibble> not yet
#5703 [20:20] <Awesomeness> Yes.
#5704 [20:20] <mib_g7a2nc> omgg !!
#5705 [20:20] <mib_g7a2nc> alright ill try !
#5706 [20:20] <Awesomeness> lol.
#5707 [20:20] <mib_g7a2nc> yess
#5708 [20:20] <mib_g7a2nc> theres a bunch of stuff
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#5710 [20:21] <Awesomeness> Cial!
#5711 [20:21] <Awesomeness> Hey dude
#5712 [20:21] <VoxelHead> I like Cial.
#5713 [20:21] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: okay, now, as I said
#5714 [20:21] <mib_g7a2nc> so what do i do with this information now?
#5715 [20:21] <xales> copy all of it to pastebin.com
#5716 [20:21] <xales> and give us the link to it
#5717 [20:21] <mib_g7a2nc> ok
#5718 [20:21] <mib_g7a2nc> sure u guys arent gonna steal my stuuff?
#5719 [20:21] <Awesomeness> ....
#5720 [20:21] <mib_g7a2nc> can u even do that?
#5721 [20:22] <Cial> what?
#5722 [20:22] <Awesomeness> We are trying to help you after you pirated
#5723 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, right, steal all your stuff that you pirated?
#5724 [20:22] <Cial> oh lord
#5725 [20:22] <Awesomeness> and you're asking if WE are gona steal your stuff
#5726 [20:22] <mib_g7a2nc> :)
#5727 [20:22] <Awesomeness> SERIOUSLY?
#5728 [20:22] <VoxelHead> =D
#5729 [20:22] <Cial> you think we are gonna steal your account from an error code?
#5730 [20:22] <mib_g7a2nc> okkokokookokok
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#5732 [20:22] <Awesomeness> Hey Cial
#5733 [20:22] <Awesomeness> I'll pm you, alright
#5734 [20:22] <Cial> ok
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#5737 [20:24] <wout> hi all
#5738 [20:24] <VoxelHead> :)
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#5740 [20:25] <wout> saaaaay, anyone noticing weirdness with inventories on smp since 1.6.6 ?
#5741 [20:25] <crazycracka1> hi wonderin if any of you can help me with a problem im having with multiplayer?
#5742 [20:25] <xales> Awesomeness: see, I can't join now
#5743 [20:25] <xales> because I only have +o
#5744 [20:25] <xales> >.>
#5745 [20:25] <mib_g7a2nc> tell me if this works guys
#5746 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> wout - Define: weirdness
#5747 [20:25] <mib_g7a2nc> http://pastebin.com/WaJf7syR
#5748 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> crazycracka1 - What problem?
#5749 [20:26] * mib_7sivvx [mib_7sivvx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#5750 [20:26] <Awesomeness> Xales: I gave you AOP
#5751 [20:26] <xales> ??> mib_g7a2nc mac/reinst
#5752 [20:26] <VoxelHead> mib_g7a2nc: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#5753 [20:26] <VoxelHead> mib_g7a2nc: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#5754 [20:26] <wout> well, suddenly I notice the 'system' seems to have changed, as in I can't click to select and move anymore
#5755 [20:26] <wout> it's a "click n switch" thing now
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#5757 [20:26] <mib_g7a2nc> ???
#5758 [20:27] <wout> for both chests and hotbar
#5759 [20:27] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: do what VoxelHead just said...
#5760 [20:27] <crazycracka1> i join a sever my mate set up and i keep getting disconected and it says sumthing about java
#5761 [20:27] <xales> crazycracka1: what, _exactly_ does it say?
#5762 [20:27] <xales> wout: err, it's been like that
#5763 [20:27] * mib_udqa9h [mib_udqa9h@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#5764 [20:27] <xales> unless I don't get what you mean
#5765 [20:28] <wout> well it seems to be like that now onhere :) thing is, can't possibly craft something this way
#5766 [20:28] <wout> as far as I can figure out
#5767 [20:28] <VoxelHead> i like them =D
#5768 [20:28] <xales> Do you have any mods installed?
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#5770 [20:29] <crazycracka1> 2 different thing last time it said : internal exception: java.net.socketException: software caused connection abort: recv failed
#5771 [20:29] <xales> crazycracka1: have you been able to play on it before?
#5772 [20:29] <wout> crazycracka1 did the server say this ? or your client ?
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#5774 [20:30] <mib_g7a2nc> xales i found 14 "bin" folders//
#5775 [20:30] <crazycracka1> yes not that server and not on 1.6
#5776 [20:30] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: delete all of them
#5777 [20:30] <crazycracka1> and client i think
#5778 [20:30] <mib_g7a2nc> okaay
#5779 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> wait, what??
#5780 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> you found 14 bin folders in minecraft, or your whole system?
#5781 [20:31] <Awesomeness> lol
#5782 [20:31] * GreyVulpine kicks xales
#5782 [20:31] <wout> I guess my 1st question is: does anyone here run 1.6.6 smp, and if so, does your inventory/chests behave normally
#5783 [20:32] * xales is kicked
#5783 [20:32] <xales> wout: does it work properly in singleplayer?
#5784 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> What did you tell him to do? look for bin folders in his whole system?
#5785 [20:32] <mib_g7a2nc> all deleted/
#5786 [20:32] <wout> good question
#5787 [20:32] <mib_g7a2nc> what do i do now xales?
#5788 [20:32] <xales> GreyVulpine: no, mac/reinst
#5789 [20:32] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: try to run Minecraft?
#5790 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Oh, um, okay
#5791 [20:32] <mib_g7a2nc> okay
#5792 [20:33] <wout> nope
#5793 [20:33] <wout> same thing in single
#5794 [20:33] <wout> 1.6.6 client
#5795 [20:33] <xales> wout: any mods installed?
#5796 [20:33] <wout> nope
#5797 [20:33] <wout> not even textures
#5798 [20:33] <xales> what OS?
#5799 [20:33] <wout> mac
#5800 [20:33] <Awesomeness> You know, I was thinking of buying a macbook pro next year
#5801 [20:33] <mib_g7a2nc> xales should i try to run an iP server?
#5802 [20:34] <Awesomeness> but all these problems..
#5803 [20:34] <mib_g7a2nc> like type a server in
#5804 [20:34] <wout> Awesomeness by all means do
#5805 [20:34] <mib_g7a2nc> okay
#5806 [20:34] <wout> I still love it :)
#5807 [20:34] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: yes, type in "s.nerd.nu"
#5808 [20:34] <Awesomeness> Last like 10 users who were here
#5809 [20:34] <Awesomeness> had problems with MAC
#5810 [20:34] <wout> have cursed at the home pc way less since I tossed wintendo
#5811 [20:35] <xales> ??> wout mac/reinst
#5812 [20:35] <VoxelHead> wout: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#5813 [20:35] <VoxelHead> wout: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#5814 [20:35] <wout> and I'm pretty sure my inventory issue will not be os related :p
#5815 [20:35] <wout> yea VoxelHead I was thinking that.. might try and reinstall client binaries
#5816 [20:35] <wout> updates tend to be fishy sometimes, or so it seems
#5817 [20:35] <VoxelHead> Cheers and good luck!
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#5819 [20:36] <mib_g7a2nc> ommg
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#5821 [20:36] <mib_g7a2nc> it said i wast listed on server
#5822 [20:36] <mib_g7a2nc> so i think it was connecting m
#5823 [20:36] <mib_g7a2nc> me*
#5824 [20:36] <mib_g7a2nc> idk
#5825 [20:36] <mib_g7a2nc> i need another ip one sec
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#5827 [20:37] <mib_t6ri30> how do i update minecraft
#5828 [20:37] <mib_zgnz7u> my screen goes black when i enter after the part where i run minecraft
#5829 [20:37] <Puddles> i downloaded minecraft but when i try to run it it will show loading screen then once fully loaded it just goes black, does anyone have any idea what's wrong?
#5830 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Ask question, leave not even 30 seconds later.
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#5832 [20:38] <mib_g7a2nc> it says "im not White-Listed on This Server"
#5833 [20:38] <mib_g7a2nc> what does that mean
#5834 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Puddles - Did you use any texture packs or mods?
#5835 [20:38] <Awesomeness> lmao
#5836 [20:38] <semiricary> hedllo
#5837 [20:38] <semiricary> hello
#5838 [20:38] <Awesomeness> Hi
#5839 [20:38] <mib_zgnz7u> it means you have to be accepted by the admins
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#5841 [20:38] <wout> reinstalling client binaries helped for the inventory thing
#5842 [20:38] <Awesomeness> How can I help? :]
#5843 [20:38] <mib_zgnz7u> no
#5844 [20:38] <mib_g7a2nc> ohh
#5845 [20:38] <wout> update must have messed something up
#5846 [20:39] <semiricary> i wont let me play minecraft
#5847 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> semiricary - Nothing we can do there, if you don't want to play
#5848 [20:39] <mib_g7a2nc> can someone link me to a site with servers where admins dont have to let you in its just like free join??
#5849 [20:39] <zucchini> ok guys hey look im on a mac trying to install hd texture packs but when i use mcpatcher i cant check the hdtextures box for somereason
#5850 [20:39] <semiricary> it dont let me play minecraft
#5851 [20:39] <Awesomeness> lol
#5852 [20:39] <xales> mib_g7a2nc: use the ip "s.nerd.nu"
#5853 [20:39] <Awesomeness> Semiricary.
#5854 [20:39] <Awesomeness> Details, please
#5855 [20:39] <Awesomeness> What does it say?
#5856 [20:39] <Awesomeness> Where's the problem?
#5857 [20:39] <xales> zucchini: We can't help with that, sorry. You could try the forum, though
#5858 [20:39] <Awesomeness> What OS do you have?
#5859 [20:39] <Awesomeness> And so on..
#5860 [20:39] <xales> ??> mib_zgnz7u win/reinst
#5861 [20:39] <VoxelHead> mib_zgnz7u: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#5862 [20:39] <VoxelHead> mib_zgnz7u: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#5863 [20:39] <xales> ??> Puddles win/reinst
#5864 [20:40] <Awesomeness> You know
#5865 [20:40] <zucchini> mac os x 10.6.5
#5866 [20:40] <semiricary> uhh well i try to log in then it gives me an error report and i have windows
#5867 [20:40] <Awesomeness> Those mibbit users keep quitting in the middle of a convo. >.>
#5868 [20:40] <Awesomeness> Paste bin the error please.
#5869 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Can you please copy the error report, and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#5870 [20:40] <Awesomeness> www.pastebin.com
#5871 [20:40] <Awesomeness> Grey, can I take this one? :P
#5872 [20:40] <crazycracka1> xales crazycracka1: have you been able to play on it before? yes but not on my mates server and not on 1.6
#5873 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Extra grabby today eh?
#5874 [20:41] <Awesomeness> :3
#5875 [20:41] <zucchini> can someone help me with this
#5876 [20:41] <mib_g7a2nc> awesomeness im in the game !!
#5877 [20:41] <semiricary> ok here it is Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated
#5878 [20:41] <mib_g7a2nc> it let ,e join
#5879 [20:41] <Awesomeness> That's really nice.
#5880 [20:41] <Awesomeness> Semiricary.
#5881 [20:41] <Awesomeness> This is not pastebin.com
#5882 [20:41] <Awesomeness> ....
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#5884 [20:41] <Awesomeness> Please paste the full error report in www.pastebin.com and give me the link.
#5885 [20:41] <ferdinand> Hey can anyone help me with an error real quick?
#5886 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - What error?
#5887 [20:41] <semiricary> ohh ok
#5888 [20:42] <Puddles> sorry for taking so long to reply but no i didn't use any mods or texturepacks
#5889 [20:42] <ferdinand> hold up
#5890 [20:42] <ferdinand> il find it
#5891 [20:42] <zucchini> please help i have mcpatcher i drag the zipped hd text patch in texturepatches folder but i cant checkmark the hd textures on the patcher
#5892 [20:42] <ferdinand> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 5/31/11 8:34 PM
#5893 [20:42] <semiricary> http://pastebin.com/29nyMuGU
#5894 [20:42] <Awesomeness> Ferdinand - www.pastebin.com
#5895 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Please copy the error and paste it at www.pastebin.com, then give us the URL
#5896 [20:42] <Awesomeness> Simiricary - Please uninstall Java, then reinstall Java.
#5897 [20:43] <Awesomeness> What OS do you have?
#5898 [20:43] <ferdinand> sec
#5899 [20:43] <Awesomeness> Oh wait, never mind
#5900 [20:43] <Awesomeness> Okay uh
#5901 [20:43] <ferdinand> windows 7
#5902 [20:43] <semiricary> ive done that already
#5903 [20:43] <Awesomeness> Really?
#5904 [20:43] <semiricary> yes
#5905 [20:43] <VoxelHead> I like them :)
#5906 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> semiricary - Did you completely uninstall java before reinstalling?
#5907 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> I mean, completely.
#5908 [20:43] <semiricary> yes
#5909 [20:43] <mib_g7a2nc> how do i make it less laggy?
#5910 [20:43] <semiricary> sure did
#5911 [20:43] <Awesomeness> Okay then, please do a DXDIAG.
#5912 [20:43] <Awesomeness> ??> semiricary win/dxdiag
#5913 [20:43] <VoxelHead> semiricary: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#5914 [20:43] <VoxelHead> semiricary: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#5916 [20:44] <semiricary> a what ?
#5917 [20:44] <ferdinand> ok what do i do after i get the whole thing guys?
#5918 [20:44] <Awesomeness> DxDiag
#5919 [20:44] <ferdinand> like it all on a copy where do i paste at
#5920 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Press the submit button, then give us the link
#5921 [20:44] <Awesomeness> Read what VoxelHead said.
#5922 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> www.pastebin.com
#5923 [20:44] <xales> Awesomeness: not needed
#5924 [20:44] <xales> semiricary: one minute please
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#5926 [20:44] <Awesomeness> oi, xales?
#5927 [20:44] <SKIPPER> HI
#5928 [20:44] <ferdinand> k i sent
#5929 [20:45] <xales> ferdinand: now, give us the URL
#5930 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Please give us the URL
#5931 [20:45] <xales> semiricary: http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-270.61-whql-driver.html download and install this
#5932 [20:45] <semiricary> k
#5933 [20:45] <ferdinand> http://pastebin.com/khggqibD
#5934 [20:45] <Awesomeness> OpenGL: GeForce GT 240M/PCI/SSE2 version 3.3.0, NVIDIA Corporation
#5935 [20:45] <Awesomeness> My bad
#5936 [20:45] <Awesomeness> >.>
#5937 [20:45] <Awesomeness> Anyway, download that and install it
#5938 [20:45] <ferdinand> lol
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#5940 [20:45] <Awesomeness> They are the latest drivers.
#5941 [20:45] <ferdinand> me?
#5942 [20:45] <Awesomeness> Tell us how it goes.
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#5944 [20:45] <Awesomeness> No, semiricary.
#5945 [20:45] <ferdinand> oh ok
#5946 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand has the same problem as semiricary
#5947 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> along with the same vid card
#5948 [20:46] <ferdinand> lol
#5949 [20:46] <ferdinand> the chances
#5950 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-270.61-whql-driver.html
#5951 [20:46] <Awesomeness> lol
#5952 [20:46] <Awesomeness> Well, do it then. :D
#5953 [20:46] <ferdinand> so i just need to update my drivers?
#5954 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#5955 [20:47] <ferdinand> ok thanks guys
#5956 [20:47] <ferdinand> anyone wanna help with an unrelated minecraft question lol
#5957 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> You'd be surprised at some of the stuff that we come across, I've had it on numerous occasions where I'll figure out a solution one day to a problem somebody has, and the same problem will crop up 3-4 days in a row.
#5958 [20:47] <semiricary> xales what will this do ?
#5959 [20:47] <xales> semiricary: It's the driver for your graphics card
#5960 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> semiricary - It'll update your video drivers
#5961 [20:47] <semiricary> k
#5962 [20:48] <ferdinand> yeah i have an alienware xD
#5963 [20:48] <Awesomeness> What's up, Ferdinand?
#5964 [20:48] <ferdinand> playing minecraft lol
#5965 [20:48] <ferdinand> oh awesome
#5966 [20:48] <ferdinand> yeah since i live in the mountains
#5967 [20:48] <ferdinand> i have no cable as an option
#5968 [20:48] <ferdinand> so we have dial up..... as an option
#5969 [20:48] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry..
#5970 [20:48] <ferdinand> but we have that verizon usb modem thing
#5971 [20:49] <wout> on the bright side, you have mountains to mine irl :D
#5972 [20:49] <ferdinand> the little white one that plugs in your usb
#5973 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you're grabbing internet access from your cell tower.
#5974 [20:49] <ferdinand> do you know of any internet options that arent limited to 5 gigs to download a month
#5975 [20:49] <ferdinand> the bad part is the 5 gigs
#5976 [20:49] <ferdinand> the speed is pretty slow but i can manage that
#5977 [20:49] <crazycracka1> xales u were helping me befor?
#5978 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Nothing you can really do there..
#5979 [20:50] <wout> no unlimited data plans with them ?
#5980 [20:50] <ferdinand> no iv checked
#5981 [20:50] <ferdinand> and guess how much it is per month
#5982 [20:50] <wout> myea, same here
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#5984 [20:50] <ferdinand> 60 bucks for 5 gigs a month with a download speed of about 150 kbps
#5985 [20:50] <wout> always capped ridiculously low
#5986 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's pretty normal for a cell phone data plan
#5987 [20:50] <cl0udman> how do i get minecraft 1.5 instead of 1.6
#5988 [20:50] <wout> gotta hate them telecom bandits :p
#5989 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Especially in the US
#5990 [20:51] <xales> crazycracka1: has that server worked before?
#5991 [20:51] <crazycracka1> no
#5992 [20:51] <xales> cl0udman: Unless you have a personal backup, you can't
#5993 [20:51] <ferdinand> is there really no more options?
#5994 [20:51] <ferdinand> im so tired of it and i hate getting it handed to me every month
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#5996 [20:51] <cl0udman> ok tyvm
#5997 [20:51] <xales> crazycracka1: server doesn't work, then
#5998 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> ferdinand - Nope, sorry
#5999 [20:51] <crazycracka1> yes for about 2 mins and there is another person on it
#6000 [20:51] <ferdinand> that sucks so bad :(
#6001 [20:52] <Vivek> greyvulpine, you got any more ideas for that toshiba ati java thing?
#6002 [20:52] <crazycracka1> the other person has no problems
#6003 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - I haven't had any time recently to look that up yet.
#6004 [20:52] <wout> I moved my server files onto a ramdisk-filesystem today :) disk lag be gone :D
#6005 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> I'll get started on that
#6006 [20:52] <Vivek> ok, no worries
#6007 [20:53] <xales> crazycracka1: have the admin delete your user data then
#6008 [20:53] <semiricary> umm it says the nvidia graphics driver is not compatible with this versio of windows ?
#6009 [20:53] <xales> it's probably corrupted
#6010 [20:53] <xales> semiricary: are you sure downloaded this one?
#6011 [20:53] <xales> http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-270.61-whql-driver.html
#6012 [20:53] <crazycracka1> no
#6013 [20:53] <semiricary> yes
#6014 [20:53] <xales> crazycracka1: what do you mean, no? it wasn't a question
#6015 [20:54] <semiricary> i mean yes
#6016 [20:54] <xales> semiricary: what is the model number and manufacturer of your computer
#6017 [20:54] <Vivek> greyvulpine: could you pm me any ideas, i think i should get them when i come online, if i dont i will ask next time i see you. im off to bed now 2.00 in the morning :)
#6018 [20:54] <semiricary> wel its an alienware where do i find the model number ?
#6019 [20:54] <xales> semiricary: somewhere on it
#6020 [20:54] <semiricary> lolo
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#6022 [20:55] <semiricary> the service tag ?
#6023 [20:55] <Vivek> if its a laptop, look at the bottom, a desktop look on the front or back
#6024 [20:55] <wout> Awesomeness let the record show that the wintendo issues seem to persisting worse ;-)
#6025 [20:55] <crazycracka1> no: as far as im aware he hasnt delete my user data
#6026 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> Serfice Tag is what Dell calls the Serial Number
#6027 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> s/f/v/
#6028 [20:56] <wout> yes, crazycracka1.. I've fixed a similar issue like that recently
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#6030 [20:56] <semiricary> so wat is the model number ?
#6031 [20:57] <wout> deleting your <playername>.dat file on the server might fix it
#6032 [20:57] <crazycracka1> wout ... what was the solution
#6033 [20:57] <veggteppe> Anyone that could help me forward ports on a Dlink dl-525 router?
#6034 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> The Model Number is, well, a number that identifies what model of comptuer it is.
#6035 [20:57] <mib_eww0we> hey i was wondering if som1 could help me. my minecraft crashes after it loads from the launch game screen but before the main menu.
#6036 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> veggteppe: http://www.portforward.com
#6037 [20:57] <semiricary> there alot of numbers on this computer
#6038 [20:57] <wout> your inventory might be gone, but hey
#6039 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_eww0we win/reinst
#6040 [20:57] <VoxelHead> mib_eww0we: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#6041 [20:57] <mib_eww0we> it has an error message, if you have a way for me to post it i will
#6042 [20:57] <VoxelHead> mib_eww0we: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#6043 [20:57] <veggteppe> DopeGhoti: I checked there, but wouldnt help, still aint working. Different firmware on that router.
#6044 [20:57] <xales> semiricary: what is the service tag?
#6045 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> veggteppe: if you are still looking for help when I get home from work, I can assist you via TeamVeiwer
#6046 [20:58] <crazycracka1> didnt have one how do i deleting your <playername>.dat file on the server ?
#6047 [20:58] <wout> my server was throwing java npe's whenever I tried to login, nuking the .dat file worked
#6048 [20:58] <semiricary> 5tr53p1
#6049 [20:58] <wout> do you have access to the server ?
#6050 [20:58] <mib_eww0we> i tried installing the game 3 times, twice with the free version, and once with my friends paid for version
#6051 [20:58] <wout> and its files
#6052 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> mib_eww0we: "free version"?
#6053 [20:58] <crazycracka1> no ma mate dose
#6054 [20:59] <wout> within the minecraft directory there's your "world" directory
#6055 [20:59] <Awesomeness> Free version
#6056 [20:59] <Awesomeness> uh oh
#6057 [20:59] <mib_eww0we> the illegal 1 basically
#6058 [20:59] <wout> (or whatever your world is named)
#6059 [20:59] <Awesomeness> That's not good
#6060 [20:59] <crazycracka1> k
#6061 [20:59] <xales> semiricary: ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/video/nVidia_GeForce-GT-240M_A01_R279496.exe
#6062 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> mib_eww0we: Many of the pirated versions break your computer in a subtle way that prevents the legitimate version from actually working
#6063 [20:59] <wout> within that one there's a directory "players"
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#6065 [20:59] <wout> and the .dat files are inthere
#6066 [21:00] <xales> mib_eww0we: If you do not own the game, we will not provide you with any assistance whatsoever
#6067 [21:00] <mib_eww0we> but also tried the bought 1. still didnt work. well i played the fre version when i was using xp, i switched to ubuntu and now it wont work
#6068 [21:00] <wout> maybe ask him to move it aside instead of deleting
#6069 [21:00] <wout> so you still have it should that not be the problem
#6070 [21:00] <crazycracka1> k i'll mention it thanks
#6071 [21:00] <Awesomeness> eww0we
#6072 [21:00] <Awesomeness> Did you, or did you not buy the game?
#6073 [21:01] <Awesomeness> Simple question.
#6074 [21:01] <mib_eww0we> yes i have it. well my friend bought it, and doesnt use it anymore so he gave me his account
#6075 [21:01] <mib_eww0we> so no i didnt buy it, but have the bought version
#6076 [21:01] <xales> What is the username?
#6077 [21:01] <mib_eww0we> sockpuppet9001
#6078 [21:01] <mib_eww0we> idk why he chose that lol
#6079 [21:02] <xales> And what exactly is the issue?
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#6082 [21:02] <sarkdog> Minecraft isn't loading on my Mac.
#6083 [21:03] <mib_eww0we> well ever since i switched to ubuntu 11.04, it wont work. i get an error message about it crashing before the main menu.
#6084 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Why won't it?
#6085 [21:03] <sarkdog> I removed the minecraft.jar from my application support folder and I also redownloaded the minecraft.app
#6086 [21:03] <Awesomeness> Wait, so you get the error?
#6087 [21:03] <Awesomeness> You just said your friend does.
#6088 [21:03] <wout> sarkdog how far does it get
#6089 [21:03] <mib_eww0we> thats why i tried the illegal copy, wondering if that might work
#6090 [21:03] <xales> ??> mib_eww0we error
#6091 [21:03] <VoxelHead> mib_eww0we: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#6092 [21:03] <sarkdog> stuck at load
#6093 [21:03] <VoxelHead> mib_eww0we: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#6094 [21:03] <wout> sarkdog but you can login ?
#6095 [21:03] <mib_eww0we> i can post the error, just need to know the site to post it
#6096 [21:03] <sarkdog> I can login yes
#6097 [21:03] <wout> or really as from the very start
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#6099 [21:03] <mib_eww0we> oh ok. ill post it nd send the url
#6100 [21:03] <sarkdog> Also I redownload the minecraft.app and first time I see the launcher xd
#6101 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> sarkdog - Could you try deleting the entire minecraft folder from ~/Library/Application Support/
#6102 [21:04] <wout> trying to start single or multiplayer ?
#6103 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> sarkdog - Remember to save your saves inside
#6104 [21:04] <frogzilla> hello
#6105 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> frogzilla - 'lo
#6106 [21:04] <frogzilla> how do I get the updates ?
#6107 [21:04] <xales> Just run the game, it will prompt you to download them
#6108 [21:04] <sarkdog> Ok downloading updates
#6109 [21:04] * oldtopmanserver will be AFK for dinner:(1 hour)
#6109 [21:05] <wout> frogzilla the cient will suggest installation at startup
#6110 [21:05] <sarkdog> but wtf the text is increadibly blurry
#6111 [21:05] <frogzilla> so it auto updates ?
#6112 [21:05] <xales> It asks you if you want to update
#6113 [21:05] <wout> and sarkdog yes, I've had to delete the bin folder within minecraft (in app support) a few times already after updates
#6114 [21:05] <xales> (provided you have a legal, paid for, copy of the game)
#6115 [21:06] <mib_eww0we> heres the url, sorry it took so long, my comps alil slow
#6116 [21:06] <mib_eww0we> http://pastebin.com/XLPKzRr2
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#6118 [21:06] <frogzilla> I think mine just does it when opening
#6119 [21:06] <frogzilla> 1.6.6 is the latest rite ?
#6120 [21:07] <Awesomeness> eww0we, provided that oyu have a LEGAL copy of Minecraft
#6121 [21:07] <xales> frogzilla: yes, that is what I said it does
#6122 [21:07] <xales> and yes, it is
#6123 [21:07] <wout> yes
#6124 [21:07] <Awesomeness> You have a older version of Minecraft.
#6125 [21:07] <Awesomeness> Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.6.5
#6126 [21:07] <Awesomeness> Why so?
#6127 [21:07] <frogzilla> ok thanks for your help
#6128 [21:07] <wout> because lying down to sleep is lame ? :p
#6129 [21:07] <semiricary> ok im finished with the downloads
#6130 [21:08] <frogzilla> on opening it says 1.6.6
#6131 [21:08] <frogzilla> so im good
#6132 [21:08] <frogzilla> see ya
#6133 [21:09] <semiricary> ohh its good thanks guys
#6134 [21:09] <semiricary> its been like this for 2 weeks
#6135 [21:09] * GreyVulpine gives xales a gold star
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#6137 [21:12] <sarkdog> Minecraft runs increadibad on my macbook Pro
#6138 [21:12] <sarkdog> what am I doing wrong
#6139 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> Good talk, frogglestew; thanks for coming by.
#6140 [21:12] <Awesomeness> :D
#6141 [21:12] <VoxelHead> =)
#6142 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> sarkdog: is your MBP the 13" model?
#6143 [21:12] <wout> sarkdog what are the symptoms ?
#6144 [21:12] <sarkdog> 17"
#6145 [21:12] <sarkdog> gt330
#6146 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> did you disable the discrete GPU?
#6147 [21:13] <sarkdog> Can't disable it
#6148 [21:13] <wout> dont think there is an MBP with 13" ?
#6149 [21:13] <sarkdog> It should auto run on OpenGL apps
#6150 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> wout: there is.
#6151 [21:13] <sarkdog> also there is an mbp13
#6152 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> they come in 13, 15, 17" flavors
#6153 [21:13] <wout> woah.
#6154 [21:13] <sarkdog> and the new 13" mbp already has a faster cpu than my last gen 17"
#6155 [21:13] <wout> not when I got mine :) but k, cool
#6156 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> but still no discrete GPU
#6157 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> and, sigh, AMD :/
#6158 [21:14] <wout> I have a late 2007 mbp
#6159 [21:14] <wout> with render distance on normal all is smooth
#6160 [21:15] <wout> far can make it grind a bit
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#6162 [21:15] <sarkdog> It runs horrible, graphics are set to fast
#6163 [21:15] <mib_eww0we> wait so what do i do now? how can i fix the error?
#6164 [21:16] <sarkdog> and what the hell is performance
#6165 [21:16] <wout> you mean it's jerky ?
#6166 [21:16] <medgno> wout: I have a similar issue with a 2009 mac pro with a pretty damn decent ati card
#6167 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> are you running it fullscreen or something?
#6168 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> any mods?
#6169 [21:16] <sarkdog> this is it:
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#6171 [21:16] <sarkdog> how I am running it:
#6172 [21:16] <mib_eww0we> no im not running it in fullscreen.
#6173 [21:16] <sarkdog> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8281585/Screenshots/evnf.png
#6174 [21:17] <RoBo> Anyone wana join a server wit me
#6175 [21:17] <xales> RoBo: #smp for that. This is a help channel, not a "who wants to play"
#6176 [21:17] <mib_eww0we> also im using open JDK java runtime 6 if that matters
#6177 [21:17] <xales> ??> mib_eww0we linux/reinst
#6178 [21:17] <VoxelHead> mib_eww0we: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#6179 [21:17] <VoxelHead> mib_eww0we: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
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#6182 [21:17] <sarkdog> so hmm what do I set my graphic settings to.
#6183 [21:18] <mib_flpwp0> hello?
#6184 [21:18] <sarkdog> It's an i5 2.53ghz + gt330 512mb
#6185 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_flpwp0 - 'lo
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#6187 [21:18] <mib_flpwp0> i recently got an error containing the message
#6188 [21:18] <mib_flpwp0> :
#6189 [21:18] <sarkdog> Even Call of Duty 4 runs much better than minecraft -.-
#6190 [21:18] <VoxelHead> weee hoo hooo hooo! dootie
#6191 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_flpwp0 - Can you please paste a copy at http://www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
#6192 [21:19] <wout> k see the image
#6193 [21:19] <mib_eww0we> does that command work in ubuntu? when i try it nothing happens.
#6194 [21:19] <xales> mib_eww0we: it isn't _supposed_ to say anything
#6195 [21:19] <mib_flpwp0> "Out of memory! Minecraft has run out of memory. This could be caused by a bug in the game or by the Java Virtual Machine not being allocated enough memory. If you are playing in a web browser, try downloading the game and playing it offline. To prevent level corruption, the current game has quit. Please restart the game."
#6196 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_flpwp0 - Really nothing you can do with that, just restart the game
#6197 [21:19] <mib_eww0we> so how do i know if it worked? just try the game again?
#6198 [21:19] <mib_flpwp0> this was offline
#6199 [21:19] <wout> but what are you experiencing ? is movement laggy and jerky ? or are you disappointed by the resolution ? :)
#6200 [21:19] <sarkdog> EVERYHING IS LAGGY
#6201 [21:19] <wout> kay
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#6203 [21:20] <sarkdog> :P
#6204 [21:20] <wout> even in single player
#6205 [21:20] <mib_flpwp0> how do i restart the game?
#6206 [21:20] <wout> ?
#6207 [21:20] <sarkdog> it's singleplayer right now.
#6208 [21:20] <xales> mib_eww0we: no, then you go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers and you enable the video one
#6209 [21:20] <sarkdog> Dude I'm not stupid
#6210 [21:20] <xales> mib_flpwp0: you close it, and then you open it again
#6211 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_flpwp0 - Just close minecraft and relaunch it
#6212 [21:20] <wout> kk :)
#6213 [21:20] <sarkdog> It just runs increadibad
#6214 [21:20] <mib_flpwp0> it doesn't work
#6215 [21:20] <mib_flpwp0> :/
#6216 [21:20] <xales> sarkdog: they aren't even talking to you rightn ow...
#6217 [21:20] <sarkdog> It's the only app running besides irc
#6218 [21:20] <wout> don't know you that well yet, my apologies :)
#6219 [21:20] <xales> mib_flpwp0: how does it "not work"
#6220 [21:20] <sarkdog> Wout is
#6221 [21:20] <mib_eww0we> u mean additional drivers or no? because i dont see hardware drivers
#6222 [21:20] <sarkdog> or is he?
#6223 [21:21] <mib_flpwp0> would it work if i played online?
#6224 [21:21] <wout> I was
#6225 [21:21] <wout> :P
#6226 [21:21] <sarkdog> :D
#6227 [21:21] <wout> :)
#6228 [21:21] <VoxelHead> ;)
#6229 [21:21] <wout> nah srry just trying to see
#6230 [21:21] <wout> since I don't have the same prob here
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#6232 [21:22] <sarkdog> movement lags every few seconds
#6233 [21:22] <sarkdog> making me fall of this mountain all the time
#6234 [21:22] <mib_flpwp0> xales, whenever i restart minecraft i keep getting the message
#6235 [21:22] <xales> mib_eww0we: yes, additional drivers
#6236 [21:22] <mib_flpwp0> "Out of memory! Minecraft has run out of memory. This could be caused by a bug in the game or by the Java Virtual Machine not being allocated enough memory. If you are playing in a web browser, try downloading the game and playing it offline. To prevent level corruption, the current game has quit. Please restart the game."
#6237 [21:22] <sarkdog> and placing blocks on wrong spots
#6238 [21:22] <wout> we an compare video settings ?
#6239 [21:22] <xales> mib_flpwp0: restart your computer
#6240 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_flpwp0 - Just close minecraft and relaunch it
#6241 [21:22] <mib_flpwp0> restart?
#6242 [21:22] <mib_flpwp0> alright...
#6243 [21:22] <sarkdog> Graphics: Fast, Render Distance: normal, performance is: max fps, advanced opengl: on, smooth lighting: on
#6244 [21:23] <wout> advanced opengl
#6245 [21:23] <wout> I have that off
#6246 [21:23] <wout> ..for some reason
#6247 [21:23] <sarkdog> lagg is gone
#6248 [21:23] <sarkdog> ....
#6249 [21:23] <wout> nice
#6250 [21:23] <sarkdog> yay :D
#6251 [21:24] <wout> so I guess that's a no-no for us
#6252 [21:24] <mib_eww0we> when i open additional drivers it says " no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
#6253 [21:24] <wout> :)
#6254 [21:24] <VoxelHead> =)
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#6256 [21:25] <xales> mib_eww0we: yes, you have to select them from the list it gives you
#6257 [21:25] <mib_eww0we> it just comes up blank.
#6258 [21:26] <mib_eww0we> it has a sspot for me to type, do i have to search for it?
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#6261 [21:28] <kermit> g'day...
#6262 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> g'evenin' gov'na
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#6265 [21:34] <xales> What is with all these Mibbit users joining and leaving? ._.
#6266 [21:34] <Awesomeness> lmao
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#6268 [21:34] <Lunamon> "~Mibbit"
#6269 [21:35] <mib_eww0we> so wat do i do now? the list that comes up is blank
#6270 [21:35] <Awesomeness> Xales; can I make lame joke?
#6271 [21:35] <xales> nope
#6272 [21:35] <Awesomeness> :(
#6273 [21:35] * VoxelHead gets out a board game for Awesomeness
#6273 [21:35] <xales> mib_eww0we: install the proper graphics card drivers for your computer
#6274 [21:35] * Awesomeness plays the game
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#6275 [21:36] <yoshi> I'm having trouble with my server
#6276 [21:36] <Awesomeness> Shoot, yoshi.
#6277 [21:36] <xales> Care to elaborate?
#6278 [21:36] <yoshi> When I log on with my account, it won't let me play multiplayer, but my brother's works fine.
#6279 [21:36] <Awesomeness> What's the error it gives you?
#6280 [21:37] <mib_eww0we> how? like where do i go and everything? sorry, idk much about this
#6281 [21:37] <yoshi> End of stream but sometimes something else that I can't remember
#6282 [21:37] <xales> mib_eww0we: what graphics card does your computer have?
#6283 [21:37] <xales> yoshi: delete world/players/yourname.dat
#6284 [21:37] <Awesomeness> Ah
#6285 [21:37] <Awesomeness> Yeah - try that.
#6286 [21:38] <mib_eww0we> no idea. its the stock one that comes with the dell dimension 22 or 2800
#6287 [21:38] <mib_eww0we> one of the 2
#6288 [21:38] <wout> yes yoshi that's likely to work
#6289 [21:38] <yoshi> Where should I input "delete world..."?
#6290 [21:38] <wout> note that file needs to be deleted on the server
#6291 [21:38] <Awesomeness> Noo
#6292 [21:38] <Awesomeness> go to world/players
#6293 [21:39] <Awesomeness> and delete Yoshi.Dat
#6294 [21:39] <yoshi> Oh....thx
#6295 [21:39] <xales> mib_eww0we: run 'lspci' and pastebin the output.
#6296 [21:39] <Awesomeness> You're welcome. (:
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#6299 [21:41] <mib_eww0we> http://pastebin.com/zU0rjC6v
#6300 [21:41] <mib_eww0we> theres what it said
#6301 [21:42] <Awesomeness> Oi, Xales
#6302 [21:42] <Awesomeness> what's the gpu name?
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#6304 [21:42] <SlashLife> :(
#6305 [21:42] <xales> err, exactly what it says there
#6306 [21:43] <Awesomeness> umm
#6307 [21:43] <xales> which I don't think has proper Linux drivers, due to it's age
#6308 [21:43] <xales> at least, not for 2.6
#6309 [21:43] <Awesomeness> What's up, SlashLife?
#6310 [21:43] <VoxelHead> not a good way to start %owner{bread} day i think
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#6312 [21:44] <SlashLife> It's hot, I'm tired and having to finish making these meat balls won't help with either problem.
#6313 [21:44] <Awesomeness> lmao
#6314 [21:44] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :<
#6315 [21:45] <mib_eww0we> well, i was able to run 2.6 when i was using xp, only reason i switched is because someone got a virus on my comp and the system32 file got deleted, and i dont have an xp disk or any blank disks to make a repair disk
#6316 [21:45] <xales> I wasn't talking about Minecraft (which is 1.6)
#6317 [21:45] <xales> I was talking about Linux.
#6318 [21:45] <xales> ._.
#6319 [21:45] <mib_eww0we> yea srry ment 1.6 lol
#6320 [21:45] <xales> In other words, there is no proper driver that supports your (ancient piece of garbage) video card
#6321 [21:45] <mib_eww0we> ohh
#6322 [21:45] <xales> rather
#6323 [21:46] <mib_eww0we> yea it is a piece of crap, but was free lol
#6324 [21:46] <xales> there is no driver that supports accelerated video on said card
#6325 [21:46] <Awesomeness> eww0we; there's a saying; you get what you pay for.
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#6327 [21:46] <KaddyHD> hello?
#6328 [21:46] <KaddyHD> exales
#6329 [21:46] <KaddyHD> xales
#6330 [21:46] <xales> Hi.
#6331 [21:46] <KaddyHD> i got it to work im on the server "s.nerd.nu"
#6332 [21:47] <KaddyHD> thats the only server i have got on?
#6333 [21:47] <mib_eww0we> so its pretty much a lost cause til i get a better computer or better video card?
#6334 [21:47] <xales> pretty much
#6335 [21:47] <xales> KaddyHD: you just aren't trying servers that work, then
#6336 [21:47] * mib_va5bdt [mib_va5bdt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#6337 [21:47] <xales> ??> KaddyHD smp/servers
#6338 [21:47] <VoxelHead> KaddyHD: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#6339 [21:47] <VoxelHead> KaddyHD: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#6340 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> I should recheck those links, it's been a while since I made that entry
#6341 [21:48] <xales> GreyVulpine: add minestatus.net
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#6343 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> You add it >.>
#6344 [21:48] <mib_va5bdt> i have a black screen so i deleted my bin and that did not fix it
#6345 [21:48] <xales> ??> mib_va5bdt win/reinst
#6346 [21:48] <VoxelHead> mib_va5bdt: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#6347 [21:48] <VoxelHead> mib_va5bdt: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#6348 [21:49] <mib_va5bdt> i hav a mac
#6349 [21:49] <Awesomeness> lol
#6350 [21:49] <Awesomeness> add minestatus.net
#6351 [21:49] <Awesomeness> no, you add it.
#6352 [21:49] <xales> mib_va5bdt: go back to the minecraft folder, delete everything except for 'saves'
#6353 [21:49] <Awesomeness> very mature, if you guys tell me how to add it, I'll do it.
#6354 [21:49] <schubi> Hi guys, total noob here, both game-wise and in terms of debugging java issues on Linux :-/ Tried running beta 1.6.6 and am getting SIGSEV on the nvidea opengl driver... forums list remotely related issues but not quite the same :-(
#6355 [21:50] <xales> schubi: What graphics card do you have?
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#6357 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> xales, would you like minestatus.net to appear in a certain spot in that list, or do you not care?
#6358 [21:50] <xales> GreyVulpine: Unlike the other lists (I think?) it lists servers by uptime along with user votes, so the top 10 will probably always work
#6359 [21:50] <schubi> xales: 7300GS
#6360 [21:50] <xales> so, probably first
#6361 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Roger
#6362 [21:51] <xales> schubi: have you tried re-downloading the minecraft binaries (deleteing ~/.minecraft/bin)
#6363 [21:51] <VoxelHead> i like them -_-
#6364 [21:51] <xales> -e
#6365 [21:51] * oldtopmanserver is back
#6365 [21:52] <schubi> xales: interesting idea, will do that now :-)
#6366 [21:52] * GreyVulpine tests links in mibbit
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#6367 [21:52] <esper_mgxtso> ??< smp/servers
#6368 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Looks good from here.
#6369 [21:53] <xales> \ o /
#6370 [21:54] * xales wishes Windows had compose key support >.>
#6370 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> that's what autohotkey and other macro programs are for
#6371 [21:54] <xales> bleh
#6372 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> hotkeyboard's my macro program of choice
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#6375 [21:57] <blaphmat> anyone know how to fix this problem, wenever i start up minecraft it loads it and when the done loading bar is all the way up it justs gives me a white box and wont do anything
#6376 [21:57] <xales> ??> blaphmat win/reinst
#6377 [21:57] <VoxelHead> blaphmat: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#6378 [21:57] <VoxelHead> blaphmat: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#6379 [21:58] <blaphmat> thx
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#6383 [22:00] <whitezombie> if minecraft just builds memory until it java crashes would that be a possible side affect of using a intel hd graphics card
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#6385 [22:00] <schubi> xales: no dice, same same - looking at the console output, javaw shouldn't be invoked on Linux - perhaps an issue with the minecraft.jar?:
#6386 [22:00] <schubi> java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "javaw": java.io.IOException: error=2, No such file or directory at java.lang.ProcessBuilder.start(ProcessBuilder.java:460) at net.minecraft.MinecraftLauncher.main(MinecraftLauncher.java:31) Caused by: java.io.IOException: java.io.IOException: error=2, No such file or directory at java.lang.UNIXProcess.<init>(UNIXPro
#6387 [22:01] <blaphmat> thx it works now
#6388 [22:01] <xales> schubi: nope, that's normal
#6389 [22:01] <xales> schubi: hmm, has it worked before?
#6390 [22:01] <schubi> xales: no, first time user, first time install
#6391 [22:02] <xales> hmm
#6392 [22:02] <xales> oh
#6393 [22:02] <xales> what Linux distro are you using?
#6394 [22:03] <schubi> xales: pid err log says this: # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb2e31896, pid=6621, tid=3015502704 # # JRE version: 6.0_25-b06 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.0-b11 mixed mode, sharing linux-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [libnvidia-glcore.so.270.41.06+0xc8d896] wchar_t+0xc8d896
#6395 [22:03] <whitezombie> to get animals to spawn in a fenced yard does it need to be huge or you just get ucky
#6396 [22:03] <schubi> xales: ubuntu 1104
#6397 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> whitezombie - Just gotta be lucky
#6398 [22:03] <xales> whitezombie: it has to have grass and light
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#6400 [22:04] <whitezombie> hey grey
#6401 [22:04] <xales> schubi: try running the applet version - http://minecraft.net/game/
#6402 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#6403 [22:04] <whitezombie> so my buddy that was crashing, is using a intel hd graphics card
#6404 [22:04] <whitezombie> possible reason why he crashes?
#6405 [22:04] <whitezombie> he has the ram but it just builds in memory till he gets a java crash
#6406 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Could you get him to come on here? It's be better for us if we can ask him ourselves
#6407 [22:04] <schubi> xales: same problem, loads the login screen, updates the applet, and fails at the same spot - only in browser applet frame remains empty.
#6408 [22:05] <whitezombie> i tested every thing at his house
#6409 [22:05] <xales> schubi: hmm..
#6410 [22:05] <whitezombie> he is not very computer smart
#6411 [22:06] <wout> schubi what's the output of # java -version
#6412 [22:06] <xales> schubi: you have the "proprietary nvidia driver" installed, correct?
#6413 [22:06] <schubi> xales: yeah, JRE version: 6.0_25-b06 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
#6414 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> whitezombie - Is there anyway you can copy the error report to pastebin.com and give us the link to it?
#6415 [22:06] <schubi> xales: remember reading something about beta 1.4.x and 3D feature enable that shouldn't be
#6416 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> whitezombie - It would help in diagnosing the problem
#6417 [22:07] <whitezombie> ive given the error report to u use last
#6418 [22:07] <whitezombie> time
#6419 [22:07] <xales> schubi: you could try fiddling around in the nvidia control panel (turn down acceleration settings, but not all the way off) as well as reinstalling the driver
#6420 [22:07] <xales> not sure what else to do though :|
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#6422 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> whitezombie - I'm sorry, it's been a long time since then, would you be able to send me an updated one?
#6423 [22:08] <schubi> xales: yeah, I'll try that - if issue persists, I should really find this old bug report again and re-open it - could be showstopper for a lot of linux users out there.
#6424 [22:08] <wout> 6.0?
#6425 [22:09] <whitezombie> Java platform SE binary is not responding. problem event name is AppHangB1
#6426 [22:09] <whitezombie> i think his computer is running out of memory and crashing to that
#6427 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> whitezombie - Is there anything further than that?
#6428 [22:10] <whitezombie> nah
#6429 [22:11] <whitezombie> unless there is a crash log created?
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#6431 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> whitezombie - You tell me...
#6432 [22:11] <whitezombie> its a windows 7 quadcore with 2 or 4 gigs of ram, intel hd graphics
#6433 [22:11] <whitezombie> i mean like a file
#6434 [22:11] <whitezombie> but it just says Java platform SE binary is not responding. problem event name is AppHangB1
#6435 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> whitezombie - Is there an option to look at the error report that windows created?
#6436 [22:11] <SlashLife> Bed time gets closer. \o/
#6437 [22:12] <xales> ^
#6438 [22:12] <whitezombie> hmm didnt notice it but possibly I guess i will have to return some other time with a yes or no and the info if so..
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#6440 [22:17] <Awesomeness> Thank you, 8hsbfz for your question!
#6441 [22:18] <oldtopmanserver> XD
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#6443 [22:18] <VoxelHead> Bye wout.
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#6447 [22:20] <Randomperson15431> Hey anyone i need help
#6448 [22:20] <Randomperson15431> I cant find drivers for MC
#6449 [22:20] <Randomperson15431> When i launch minecraft download version i get a black screen for a bit then it says i need to update my drivers
#6450 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Know what video card you have?
#6451 [22:21] <oldtopmanserver> Randomperson15431: Google!
#6452 [22:21] <Randomperson15431> Hmm no
#6453 [22:21] <Awesomeness> Do a DxDiag please
#6454 [22:21] <Awesomeness> ??> Randomperson15431 win/dxdiag
#6455 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> ??> Randomperson15431 win/dxdiag
#6456 [22:21] <VoxelHead> Randomperson15431: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#6457 [22:21] <VoxelHead> Randomperson15431: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#6458 [22:21] <Awesomeness> Grey, I'll take this one? :P
#6459 [22:21] <Randomperson15431> Brb il google it
#6460 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#6461 [22:21] <Awesomeness> okay, cool
#6462 [22:23] <SlashLife> 000
#6463 [22:23] <SlashLife> oopss
#6464 [22:23] <SlashLife> didn't mean to send that
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#6466 [22:24] <Randomperson15431> Dang it i just downloaded driver bot and dont work. :P
#6467 [22:24] <Randomperson15431> Im not paying all that money
#6468 [22:24] <Awesomeness> Please do a dxdiag.
#6469 [22:26] <xales> Randomperson15431: what?
#6470 [22:26] <Awesomeness> lol
#6471 [22:29] <Randomperson15431> There is this program called
#6472 [22:29] <Randomperson15431> Driver Robot
#6473 [22:30] <Randomperson15431> It scanned my CP
#6474 [22:30] <xales> Uh, those things are a ripoff, don't bother
#6475 [22:30] <Randomperson15431> Ya i know
#6476 [22:30] <Awesomeness> So why did you pay to get one?
#6477 [22:30] <Randomperson15431> 35 Freakin dollars for a updater
#6478 [22:30] <SlashLife> Randomperson15431: It scanned your child porn? O_o
#6479 [22:30] <Randomperson15431> I didnt
#6480 [22:30] <VoxelHead> Oh yes you did.
#6481 [22:30] <Randomperson15431> It scans for free
#6482 [22:30] <xales> ??> Randomperson15431 win/dxdiag
#6483 [22:30] <VoxelHead> Randomperson15431: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#6484 [22:30] <VoxelHead> Randomperson15431: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#6485 [22:30] <Randomperson15431> But it does not update free
#6486 [22:30] <xales> If you do that, we can provide you with a link to the driver update
#6487 [22:30] <Randomperson15431> ?
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#6489 [22:31] <SlashLife> Anyway.
#6490 [22:31] <Awesomeness> Randomperson: what does your software have anything to do with minecraft?
#6491 [22:31] <xales> What VoxelHead just said.
#6492 [22:31] <SlashLife> BED TIME!
#6493 [22:31] <SlashLife> Finally.
#6494 [22:31] <Awesomeness> if you don't do a dxdiag, we can't help.
#6495 [22:31] <gamer> hello can someone help me out with a problem ive had since i bought minecraft???
#6496 [22:31] <SlashLife> Awake for >23 hours now. >_<
#6497 [22:31] <Randomperson15431> Whats a dxdiag?
#6498 [22:31] <Awesomeness> ...........seriously?
#6499 [22:31] <SlashLife> Two and 3.5 hours until the alarms :(
#6500 [22:31] <gamer> hello can someone help me out with a problem ive had since i bought minecraft???
#6501 [22:31] <Awesomeness> umm.. xales. you help random person
#6502 [22:31] <Awesomeness> I'll help gamer.
#6503 [22:31] <Awesomeness> Hey gamer, what's the issue?
#6504 [22:32] <SlashLife> gamer: Noone can help with something you didn't ask.
#6505 [22:32] <SlashLife> Awesomeness: How can you know that you'll help?
#6506 [22:32] <gamer> hello can someone help me out with a problem ive had since i bought minecraft???
#6507 [22:32] <SlashLife> ... that you are even capable to help. :)
#6508 [22:32] <Awesomeness> Yes, sure, what's the issue?
#6509 [22:32] <SlashLife> And it seems he's beyond help anyway.
#6510 [22:32] <SlashLife> And I'll go to bed. :)
#6511 [22:32] <SlashLife> Good night.
#6512 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> gamer - What is the problem? Could you tell us?
#6513 [22:33] <Awesomeness> Grey... I think you should take gamer.
#6514 [22:33] <Awesomeness> lol
#6515 [22:33] <gamer> laggs
#6516 [22:33] <xales> Is that a word, let alone a sentence?
#6517 [22:33] <Awesomeness> lmao
#6518 [22:33] <gamer> i can look around but not walk
#6519 [22:33] <Awesomeness> gamer - I would provide more detail.
#6520 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried turning graphics from fancy to fast? Turning limit framerate to on?
#6521 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Change the render distance?
#6522 [22:34] <gamer> ill try
#6523 [22:34] <Awesomeness> Are you using WASD instead of arrow keys?
#6524 [22:34] <gamer> nope
#6525 [22:34] <Awesomeness> lol...
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#6527 [22:34] <Awesomeness> W = Up
#6528 [22:34] <Awesomeness> A = Left
#6529 [22:34] <Awesomeness> D = Right
#6530 [22:34] <Awesomeness> and S = down
#6531 [22:34] <Awesomeness> have fun.
#6532 [22:35] <Awesomeness> See Grey, problem solved. :D
#6533 [22:35] <gamer> i changed the controls
#6534 [22:35] <Awesomeness> oi?
#6535 [22:35] <gamer> laggs last 10 minutes
#6536 [22:36] <xales> Try using WASD anyway.
#6537 [22:36] <gamer> the whole computer freezes
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#6539 [22:37] <Awesomeness> When you try to walk?
#6540 [22:37] <gamer> yes
#6541 [22:37] <Awesomeness> What exactly happens?
#6542 [22:37] <Awesomeness> Does the game just close, does it show you a error?
#6543 [22:37] <xales> an* error
#6544 [22:37] <Awesomeness> >_________________>
#6545 [22:37] <gamer> nothing.... lol
#6546 [22:37] <Awesomeness> Xales
#6547 [22:37] <Awesomeness> I haven't slept for like.. 50 hours
#6548 [22:37] <xales> gamer: Has it worked before?
#6549 [22:37] <Awesomeness> give me a break
#6550 [22:38] <gamer> not on my computer
#6551 [22:38] <xales> Awesomeness: You would probably be suffering mild hallucinations and would be in no shape to be forming coherent sentences on the Internet
#6552 [22:38] <xales> >.>
#6553 [22:38] <xales> gamer: do this
#6554 [22:38] <xales> ??> gamer win/dxdiag
#6555 [22:38] <VoxelHead> gamer: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#6556 [22:38] <VoxelHead> gamer: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#6557 [22:38] <Awesomeness> Also, can you tell me your Minecraft username
#6558 [22:38] <Awesomeness> the one you use to login?
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#6560 [22:40] <gamer> bbtrock
#6561 [22:40] <Awesomeness> !Paid bbtrock
#6562 [22:41] <Awesomeness> Interesting
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#6564 [22:41] <Awesomeness> Yeah, can you do a dxdiag?
#6565 [22:41] <gamer> a what??
#6566 [22:41] <xales> ??> gamer win/dxdiag
#6567 [22:41] <VoxelHead> gamer: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#6568 [22:41] <VoxelHead> gamer: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#6569 [22:42] <gamer> im starting
#6570 [22:42] <aeyrep00155> ya i just put in 818 into my server and now i cant get on it "internal server error" can anyone help me? did i forget to do something else?
#6571 [22:43] <xales> aeyrep00155: delete world/players/yourname.dat
#6572 [22:43] <aeyrep00155> oh ok ty very much
#6573 [22:44] <Awesomeness> Question Xales
#6574 [22:44] <xales> Answer Awesomeness
#6575 [22:44] <Awesomeness> :3
#6576 [22:44] <aeyrep00155> now i got "bad login"
#6577 [22:44] <xales> aeyrep00155: what username are you logging in with?
#6578 [22:44] <aeyrep00155> aeyrep00155
#6579 [22:44] <Awesomeness> !Paid aeyrep00155
#6580 [22:45] <Awesomeness> hmm
#6581 [22:45] <aeyrep00155> yes
#6582 [22:45] <Awesomeness> Might be minecraft.net
#6583 [22:45] <Awesomeness> or
#6584 [22:45] <Awesomeness> hmm
#6585 [22:45] <Awesomeness> wait
#6586 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Nah, a reinstall of minecraft file should fix it
#6587 [22:45] <gamer> is win + r windows + r?
#6588 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#6589 [22:45] <aeyrep00155> ok ty ill try that then
#6590 [22:45] <gamer> ok
#6591 [22:47] <aeyrep00155> still not working
#6592 [22:47] <xales> Try the server: s.nerd.nu
#6593 [22:47] <Awesomeness> so.sleepy.must.sleep
#6594 [22:47] <aeyrep00155> whats that?
#6595 [22:48] <xales> A server
#6596 [22:48] <xales> see if you can play on that
#6597 [22:48] <aeyrep00155> oh ok
#6598 [22:48] <aeyrep00155> ya i got into there
#6599 [22:49] <xales> I assume the server that you get "bad login" on is run by you?
#6600 [22:49] <aeyrep00155> yes it is
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#6602 [22:50] * Awesomeness drools on mirc window
#6602 [22:50] <xales> do you have a firewall running?
#6603 [22:50] <aeyrep00155> yes
#6604 [22:50] <mib_1h5fmm> I NEED HELP
#6605 [22:50] <xales> STOP SHOUTING AND MAYBE SOMEONE CAN HELP YOU
#6606 [22:50] <Awesomeness> SHIFT OR CAPS WONT HEPL
#6607 [22:50] <mib_1h5fmm> sorry
#6608 [22:50] <xales> aeyrep00155: try turning that off
#6609 [22:51] <aeyrep00155> but it worked fine till i updated it
#6610 [22:51] <mib_1h5fmm> that's not the problem
#6611 [22:51] <Awesomeness> Now then, 1h5fmm, what's your problem?
#6612 [22:51] <aeyrep00155> but ill try it
#6613 [22:51] <mib_1h5fmm> my controls got messed up this evenining
#6614 [22:51] <mib_1h5fmm> and when i try to type in letters
#6615 [22:51] <mib_1h5fmm> it types in numbers
#6616 [22:51] <mib_1h5fmm> and idk what to do
#6617 [22:51] <mib_1h5fmm> to fix it
#6618 [22:51] <Awesomeness> OS?
#6619 [22:51] <mib_1h5fmm> os?
#6620 [22:52] <Awesomeness> Operating System
#6621 [22:52] <mib_1h5fmm> yea
#6622 [22:52] <Awesomeness> ...
#6623 [22:52] <Awesomeness> I'm asking what operating system you have?
#6624 [22:52] <mib_1h5fmm> it went from the wsad controls to numbers
#6625 [22:52] <mib_1h5fmm> windows
#6626 [22:52] <Awesomeness> Windows..what?
#6627 [22:52] <mib_1h5fmm> 7
#6628 [22:52] <xales> Awesomeness: forget it
#6629 [22:52] <VoxelHead> 7 ^_^
#6630 [22:52] <xales> mib_1h5fmm: uninstall the piece of garbage from Comcast (whatever utility it was, something-guard)
#6631 [22:53] <mib_1h5fmm> yea that, but then my comp will be unprotected
#6632 [22:53] <Awesomeness> lmao
#6633 [22:53] <Awesomeness> get avg free
#6634 [22:53] <xales> Uh, no
#6635 [22:53] <Awesomeness> or at least something
#6636 [22:53] <xales> The thing from comcast provides no protection whatsoever
#6637 [22:53] <aeyrep00155> ok i put down my firewall and still nothing
#6638 [22:53] <xales> aeyrep00155: restart the server
#6639 [22:54] <mib_1h5fmm> so uninstall constant guard?
#6640 [22:54] <xales> yes
#6641 [22:54] <Awesomeness> xales; how'd you know he has constant guard or whatever?
#6642 [22:54] <gamer> i have a question about the irc chanel
#6643 [22:54] <Awesomeness> Shoot, gamer
#6644 [22:54] <aeyrep00155> i did do that
#6645 [22:54] <gamer> how can i find it
#6646 [22:54] <Awesomeness> What do you mean?
#6647 [22:54] <Awesomeness> It's on esperNet
#6648 [22:54] <Awesomeness> #Minecrafthelp
#6649 [22:55] <gamer> ok
#6650 [22:55] <Awesomeness> You can always check forums, if you forget that.
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#6653 [22:58] <mib_1h5fmm> Okay constant gaurd isn't the problem
#6654 [22:59] <mib_1h5fmm> i pressed a key to disable my keyboard
#6655 [22:59] <gammer> sorry bout that i lost u guys
#6656 [22:59] <gammer> and i had to add a m
#6657 [23:02] <gammer> question (again)
#6658 [23:03] <gammer> y doesnt the irc page have anywhere to paste
#6659 [23:04] <xales> The "IRC page" is just a (very crappy) web client for IRC.
#6660 [23:04] <xales> try using a real client, such as quassel, kvirc, mIRC, etc.
#6661 [23:04] <gammer> im lost
#6662 [23:05] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE lost? feel these nipples!
#6663 [23:05] <gammer> wtf?!?!?!\
#6664 [23:05] <gammer> lol
#6665 [23:05] <Awesomeness> LMFAO
#6666 [23:06] <mib_1h5fmm> umm xales
#6667 [23:06] <medgno> shut up vox
#6668 [23:06] <VoxelHead> Bah.
#6669 [23:06] <xales> ??> mib_1h5fmm phantominput
#6670 [23:06] <mib_1h5fmm> uninstallin that constant guard didn't do anything
#6671 [23:06] <VoxelHead> mib_1h5fmm: (phantominput) If you installed 'Constant Guard by Comcast' and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, uninstall it. This is a known issue.
#6672 [23:09] <gammer> my brain exploded
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#6679 [23:27] <mib_nkrzmk> hello
#6680 [23:27] <mib_nkrzmk> ummm yea i got an issue.
#6681 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> What issue would that be?
#6682 [23:28] <mib_nkrzmk> my minecraft would keep on crashing
#6683 [23:28] <mib_nkrzmk> after 5 mins of playing
#6684 [23:28] <Awesomeness> Does it show an error?
#6685 [23:28] <Awesomeness> or just simply closes?
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#6687 [23:29] <mib_nkrzmk> just closes.
#6688 [23:29] <mib_nkrzmk> leaves a error log
#6689 [23:29] <mib_nkrzmk> txt file
#6690 [23:29] <mib_nkrzmk> thing
#6691 [23:29] <Awesomeness> Can you paste it into www.pastebin.com please?
#6692 [23:29] <mib_rylcqq> my minecraft wont run
#6693 [23:29] <mib_rylcqq> ahhh
#6694 [23:29] <mib_nkrzmk> alright brb
#6695 [23:29] <mib_rylcqq> stupid erorr report
#6696 [23:30] <mib_rylcqq> need help
#6697 [23:30] <mib_rylcqq> i need help
#6698 [23:30] <Awesomeness> Hold on...
#6699 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> With?
#6700 [23:30] <mib_rylcqq> kk
#6701 [23:31] <mib_rylcqq> it
#6702 [23:31] <mib_rylcqq> keeps giving me an error repot
#6703 [23:31] <mib_rylcqq> i cant get on
#6704 [23:31] <Awesomeness> paste it into www.pastebin.com
#6705 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Please copy the error log and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#6706 [23:31] <mib_rylcqq> kk
#6707 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL
#6708 [23:31] <mib_nkrzmk> oh man it takes freaking forever. to load the dam page
#6709 [23:31] <mib_rylcqq> brb then
#6710 [23:31] <Awesomeness> Grey. I am going to pass out soon
#6711 [23:31] <Awesomeness> just letting you know.
#6712 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Go to sleep them
#6713 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> then*
#6714 [23:32] <Awesomeness> Yes, in a minute
#6715 [23:33] <mib_rylcqq> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 6/2/11 3:01 AM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.6.6 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_25, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode, sharing), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 version 3.2.9704 Compatibility Profile Context, ATI Technologi
#6716 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Not here
#6717 [23:33] <mib_rylcqq> this sucks
#6718 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> www.pastebin.com
#6719 [23:33] <VoxelHead> This is a pile of flid.
#6720 [23:33] <mib_rylcqq> i have
#6721 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL to it
#6722 [23:34] <mib_rylcqq> kk
#6723 [23:34] <mib_rylcqq> http://pastebin.com/mp9DEEaU
#6724 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_rylcqq win/reinst
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#6726 [23:34] <VoxelHead> mib_rylcqq: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#6727 [23:34] <VoxelHead> mib_rylcqq: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#6728 [23:34] <mib_rylcqq> kk
#6729 [23:34] <Awesomeness> You can also try downloading newer drivers
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#6731 [23:35] <Awesomeness> Newest drivers are always good.
#6732 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Meh, don't try to fix something that isn't broken
#6733 [23:35] <Awesomeness> That's like saying, I have a old car (50 years old) runs just fine.
#6734 [23:35] <Awesomeness> No need to ugprade.
#6735 [23:35] <Awesomeness> lol
#6736 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> No, it means, if the video drivers aren't the problem, don't upgrade them
#6737 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> You'll never know what else it could, or would break if you do
#6738 [23:36] <Awesomeness> True, tip; don't download beta updates.
#6739 [23:37] <Awesomeness> (except for minecraft, lol)
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#6741 [23:38] <Awesomeness> Grey, what does Greybot do?
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#6743 [23:40] <mib_keaike> ok my internet just disconnected hold on im gonna paste it soon
#6744 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Many things
#6745 [23:41] <mib_rylcqq> i love u voxle IT WORKS
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#6747 [23:41] <mib_keaike> http://pastebin.com/XQbpErdB
#6748 [23:41] <mib_rylcqq> its fixed
#6749 [23:41] <mib_rylcqq> YES!
#6750 [23:41] <Coll> hello
#6751 [23:42] <Coll> lava tends to throw a fire on certain blocks without setting the block on fire correct?
#6752 [23:42] <Awesomeness> Rylcqq, I am sad to inform you but
#6753 [23:42] <xales> mib_keaike: update your nVidia graphics card driver
#6754 [23:42] <Awesomeness> Voxel is not alive.
#6755 [23:42] <Coll> example would be lava near grass
#6756 [23:42] <Awesomeness> So you can't love him.
#6757 [23:43] <mib_keaike> oh.
#6758 [23:43] <mib_keaike> ok thanks.
#6759 [23:43] <Awesomeness> lol
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#6761 [23:43] <missive> hi*
#6762 [23:43] <missive> #\hi
#6763 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#6764 [23:44] <VoxelHead> bye frozen
#6765 [23:44] <mib_keaike> haha well do u know about mods at all
#6766 [23:44] <mib_keaike> cuz that things not working either lol
#6767 [23:44] <mib_keaike> :p
#6768 [23:44] <VoxelHead> have you the eyelash worms?
#6769 [23:45] <mib_keaike> can u assist me regarding mod loader?
#6770 [23:45] <missive> why when i connect to multi-player servers is it like build a world not minecraft
#6771 [23:45] <Awesomeness> Who?
#6772 [23:45] <xales> missive: what?
#6773 [23:45] <xales> mib_keaike: not really, but you could try #risucraft
#6774 [23:45] <mib_keaike> anyone,
#6775 [23:45] <missive> im tryin to find a new server to play on and averytime i connect to one
#6776 [23:45] <mib_keaike> alright. thx for ur help
#6777 [23:45] <Awesomeness> keaike, say, I'm lost.
#6778 [23:45] <missive> its gives me blocks to place
#6779 [23:46] <xales> missive: then you are connecting to Classic servers
#6780 [23:46] <missive> well i tried a couple
#6781 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> All the servers on minecraft.net's list are classic
#6782 [23:46] <missive> o
#6783 [23:46] <Awesomeness> lol
#6784 [23:46] <missive> where can i find new ones
#6785 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> ??> missive smp/servers
#6786 [23:46] <VoxelHead> missive: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#6787 [23:46] <VoxelHead> missive: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#6788 [23:47] <missive> o ty
#6789 [23:47] <Awesomeness> Hey
#6790 [23:47] <Awesomeness> can somebody do me a favour?
#6791 [23:47] <Awesomeness> say 'I'm back'
#6792 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> I'm back
#6793 [23:47] <xales> I'm front
#6794 [23:47] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE back? feel these nipples!
#6795 [23:47] <xales> ._.
#6796 [23:47] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE front? feel these nipples!
#6797 [23:47] <Awesomeness> lmao.
#6798 [23:48] <Awesomeness> thanks. :3
#6799 [23:49] <Awesomeness> Hey Xales, Grey
#6800 [23:49] <Awesomeness> Alien Swarm is on steam, for free!
#6801 [23:49] <Awesomeness> :P
#6802 [23:49] <Awesomeness> It's a FPS
#6803 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> It's been free..
#6804 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> I played something like 300 hours of it
#6805 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> It only has 7 levels
#6806 [23:49] <xales> I played it when it came out
#6807 [23:49] <Awesomeness> Me and Edward are gonna play Multiplayer in a bit
#6808 [23:49] <xales> almost a year ago
#6809 [23:49] <xales> >.>
#6810 [23:49] <Awesomeness> wanna join?
#6811 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> And top down != FPS
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#6813 [23:52] <VoxelHead> talk to you later
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