#1 [00:00] <mib_4z1pp1> created the paste how do i transfer it to this channel?
#2 [00:00] <doppel> you paste the link to it in the channel
#3 [00:02] <mib_4z1pp1> http://pastebin.com/JkgZVSeF
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#5 [00:02] <VoxelHead> mmm charmander
#6 [00:02] <xales> ??> mib_4z1pp1 win/reinst
#7 [00:02] <VoxelHead> mib_4z1pp1: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#8 [00:02] <VoxelHead> mib_4z1pp1: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#9 [00:03] <mib_4z1pp1> thanks gonna try it
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#11 [00:07] <mib_4z1pp1> haha IT WORKED! thanks man!
#12 [00:07] <VoxelHead> ALERT! Something is happening at the front door! Something... horrible!
#13 [00:07] <xales> mhmm
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#15 [00:09] <blinky> Having a problem with my server, something along the lines of internal java error, anyone know how to fix it?
#16 [00:09] <xales> ?? error
#17 [00:09] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#18 [00:10] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#19 [00:11] <blinky> connection lost. internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
#20 [00:11] <xales> Any mods on the server?
#21 [00:11] <blinky> No, I just started it today.
#22 [00:11] <xales> Do you have a firewall running?
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#24 [00:12] <blinky> I', not sure, I'd have to go check my other computer. (The one it"s running on)
#25 [00:12] <blinky> *I'm
#26 [00:12] <wippler> So I have a quick question for you guys
#27 [00:13] <xales> wippler: I have an answer for you
#28 [00:13] <wippler> I run a six core with an HD 5770. But after the 1.5 update The game is almost unplayable.
#29 [00:13] <xales> Update to 1.6?
#30 [00:14] <wippler> I get steady framerate but then it just tanks for a few seconds then it's normal again. But it tanks more often than it is stable
#31 [00:14] <wippler> and it's the same for 1.6
#32 [00:14] <xales> ??> wippler win/reinst
#33 [00:14] <VoxelHead> wippler: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#34 [00:14] <VoxelHead> wippler: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#35 [00:16] <blinky> Ok I'm back.
#36 [00:16] <blinky> The firewall seems to be off.
#37 [00:16] <xales> When do you get the error? Immediately upon connecting?
#38 [00:17] <wippler> thank you I am in the process of trying it right now
#39 [00:17] <blinky> I connect, the map loads, I may have 30 seconds to a minute, then I disconnect.
#40 [00:17] <xales> Are you able to connect to other servers?
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#42 [00:18] <blinky> Well, I did earlier today, but when I died I lagged out, I think it was an unrelated erroe though.
#43 [00:18] <blinky> error*
#44 [00:18] <xales> See if you are able to
#45 [00:18] <wippler> Sorry Voxel same problem
#46 [00:18] <VoxelHead> i forgive you "wippler"
#47 [00:18] <wippler> :)
#48 [00:18] <VoxelHead> =)
#49 [00:19] <blinky> Able to what?
#50 [00:19] <xales> Able to connect to othe servers
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#52 [00:19] <blinky> Oh, ok
#53 [00:19] <xales> wippler: Try making a new map. Does it happen there?
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#56 [00:20] <wippler> Yes it still happens
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#58 [00:21] <xales> Do you have the "Advanced OpenGL" option turned on?
#59 [00:21] <blinky> Hmm, same error.
#60 [00:21] <wippler> I tried it on and off but I will do that once again. Note I have it off right now
#61 [00:22] <wippler> it's the same either way
#62 [00:22] <xales> wippler: try turning down other graphic options - does it maky any difference?
#63 [00:22] <xales> blinky: Is there a firewall running on >your< computer?
#64 [00:22] <blinky> I'll check on the firewall, how would I find OpenGL?
#65 [00:24] <xales> That was for someone else
#66 [00:24] <wippler> If I turn everything to absolutely bare minimum and with fog maxed I can play barely.
#67 [00:24] <blinky> Oh, ok sorry. I am running Charter Security Suite.
#68 [00:25] <xales> That's probably the issue
#69 [00:26] <xales> Try completely disabling it, if not uninstalling it
#70 [00:27] <blinky> Well, the thing is, I was able to log on to Multiplayer servers before this, maybe it's the update?
#71 [00:31] <blinky> I'm not really sure I want to uninstall it..
#72 [00:31] <xales> Did you disable it?
#73 [00:31] <blinky> But I can't find a way to disable..
#74 [00:32] <xales> If you can't even disable it...
#75 [00:32] <xales> it's probably garbage that you don't want anyway, you should probably just uninstall it and replace it with something better (and free)
#76 [00:33] <blinky> You think I'm protected enough with Google Chrome?
#77 [00:33] <xales> I recommend installing Avira AntiVir Free
#78 [00:33] <xales> (it's very nice except the annoying advertisements, but it is easy to disable them)
#79 [00:34] <xales> however, having two antivirus programs installed at the same time is extremely bad, possibly make the computer unbootable
#80 [00:34] <xales> make sure to remove the other thing first >.>
#81 [00:34] <blinky> So you think the firewall didn't work well to the update or something like that?
#82 [00:35] <xales> With the off-brand garbage, you never really know
#83 [00:35] <blinky> Well it's Charter, it;s not exactly off brand..
#84 [00:36] <xales> It is
#85 [00:36] <xales> The stuff the ISPs give you is off-brand
#86 [00:36] <blinky> Hmm..
#87 [00:36] <xales> The only reason they give it to you is they make absurd amounts of money doing it, because the companies that make that stuff know they can't sell it any other way
#88 [00:37] <blinky> I didn't pay for the Security Suite Directly anyway, I have everything bundled with Charter..
#89 [00:38] <xales> Anyway, I'd recommend uninstalling it and replacing it with real software, which is almost certainly the issue
#90 [00:39] <blinky> Ok so Avira AntiVir?
#91 [00:40] <blinky> Taking an oddly long time to uninstall.. Probably stealing my identity as we speak.
#92 [00:41] <blinky> And I just bought a pontoon boat in Iowa..
#93 [00:41] <blinky> No lols?
#94 [00:41] <xales> sorry, was AFK ._.
#95 [00:42] <xales> but yeah. lol
#96 [00:43] <blinky> Oh, I have to restart..
#97 [00:43] <xales> hmm, really?
#98 [00:43] <xales> I don't remember restarting to install that
#99 [00:43] <blinky> No for charter.. uninstall.
#100 [00:44] <xales> oh
#101 [00:44] <blinky> I guess I'll be back in a bit,=.
#102 [00:44] <blinky> Backspace fail..
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#105 [00:56] <mib_h9eh0p> when at the launcher, and after logging in it says in red text that my account isnt premium. ive paid for the game and it confirmed my purchase and have waited a couple days. further more, it says i avent eveen downloaded the game itself when ive done so numerous times.
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#109 [01:01] <VoxelHead> What time do you call this?
#110 [01:02] <mib_h9eh0p> ???
#111 [01:03] <xales> ??> mib_h9eh0p account
#112 [01:03] <VoxelHead> mib_h9eh0p: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#113 [01:03] <VoxelHead> mib_h9eh0p: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
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#116 [01:07] <Triggerdusk> so i still cant find the server plugins folder
#117 [01:07] <Triggerdusk> wait do i need to dounload something to install mods to my server?
#118 [01:07] <xales> If you are running a vanilla server, there is no plugins folder
#119 [01:08] <Triggerdusk> ahhhh ok thats what im doing
#120 [01:08] <xales> If it is a Bukkit mod, then you have to use the CraftBukkit server
#121 [01:08] <Triggerdusk> i dont belive it is
#122 [01:09] <Triggerdusk> wait how do i know if it is or not?
#123 [01:09] <xales> It probably is, depends on where you got it from
#124 [01:10] <Triggerdusk> its Pchan3's airship mod
#125 [01:10] <xales> It's probably a Bukkit mod then
#126 [01:11] <Triggerdusk> the thing is it works great in sp and in mp i can craft the items needed to make the airship but i cant drag them to my inventory
#127 [01:11] <Triggerdusk> then where can i get the craftbukkit server?
#128 [01:11] <xales> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=craftbukkit
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#131 [01:12] <Triggerdusk> uhhh which link do i click?
#132 [01:12] <xales> The first one
#133 [01:12] <Triggerdusk> thanks
#134 [01:13] <Triggerdusk> now wil l i still have my world that use on my vianilla server?
#135 [01:13] <blake> xales, This is the guy from earlier I had the same error.
#136 [01:13] <xales> Triggerdusk: If you install it in the same place, yes
#137 [01:13] <xales> blake: try to connect to this server: s.nerd.nu
#138 [01:14] <Triggerdusk> and if that one doesnt work try cultofskaro-dyndns.ip
#139 [01:14] <blake> This time I didn't even connect..
#140 [01:15] <xales> blake: what, exactly, did it say?
#141 [01:15] <blake> Same error code though..
#142 [01:16] <Kealper> gah....stupid router
#143 [01:16] <blake> Internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: read timed out
#144 [01:17] <blake> Word for word, space for space.
#145 [01:17] <xales> blake: It did that on s.nerd.nu?
#146 [01:17] <Kealper> got some family over my house and they were torrenting over wireless with everything balls-to-the-wall uncapped, and allowed like a bajillion connections....they were practically DoSing my router from inside the network ._.
#147 [01:17] <VoxelHead> withless wire
#148 [01:17] * Kealper stabs VoxelHead
#148 [01:17] <blake> Yes
#149 [01:17] <VoxelHead> i do love a good stabsing
#150 [01:17] <blake> I'll try again.
#151 [01:18] <xales> blake: Have you ever played on that server before?
#152 [01:18] <Triggerdusk> xales. this is what im s upposed to download right? craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar
#153 [01:19] <xales> I don't know
#154 [01:19] <xales> ask #bukkit
#155 [01:19] <Triggerdusk> ok
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#157 [01:22] <blake> Oi, now I can't even connect to this.
#158 [01:22] <xales> :|
#159 [01:23] <blake> So umm.
#160 [01:23] <xales> ?
#161 [01:23] <Triggerdusk> why not try wiping all minecraft related data from your computer? then do a fresh fresh install?
#162 [01:23] <blake> Same error code but this time the part after the colon was something or another about a peer changing the connection
#163 [01:24] <blake> Internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException:
#164 [01:24] <xales> Hmm
#165 [01:24] <SinZ> it was a timeout
#166 [01:24] <xales> Are you connected via wifi?
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#168 [01:25] <blake> Yeah.
#169 [01:25] <xales> Try plugging the computer in directly
#170 [01:25] <xales> or, at least, moving closer to the WAP
#171 [01:25] <blake> That would require me losing Netflix -.-
#172 [01:26] <blake> I could move closer to the WAP..
#173 [01:28] <blake> I was on for a little closer to two minutes this time..
#174 [01:28] <xales> hmm
#175 [01:29] <xales> http://speedtest.net
#176 [01:29] <xales> run the test, give me the results
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#178 [01:32] <blake> Overall: C Download: 4.85Mb/s Upload: 0.94Mb/s Ping: 18ms
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#183 [01:37] <blake> ???
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#185 [01:43] <blake> Well, MineCraft has defeated for tonight.
#186 [01:43] <blake> I'm giving up at this point, maybe another day.
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#190 [02:00] <AkiTensai> GreyVulpine: It has been pointed out to me that overworld portals within 1km are likely to link together. Mods in Bukkit have skewed my understanding of the nether.
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#192 [02:11] <needhelp> hey, my minecraft is really laggy, how do i fix this?
#193 [02:13] <needhelp> anybody????
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#195 [02:26] <xales> needhelp: Turn down the graphics settings or get a better computer
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#197 [02:34] <stomper> do u know how i can remove moded blocks in a save file?
#198 [02:49] <Wug> portals on the overworld as far apart as 3.2k can link to one nether portal
#199 [02:49] <Wug> in an extreme case, you could have portals 5k apart
#200 [02:49] <Kealper> yeah, those fail a bit some times
#201 [02:49] <Wug> (diagonally)
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#205 [03:01] <Ketsueki> Wug: reminds me of having to go build a third door to properly link the second portal in the correct spot... some fun math there.
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#209 [03:04] <a> i cant get the game to run on my computer! i always get this error: An error occured while loading the applet. Please contact support to resolve this issue, Fatal error occured (1): Unable to load logo and progressbar images
#210 [03:05] <xales> Do you have a firewall or antivirus program running?
#211 [03:05] <a> ... yes, do you think it would block the game?
#212 [03:05] <xales> That is probably the issue
#213 [03:06] <a> :) quick question: how would i work around that problem??
#214 [03:07] <a> btw i dont like the emoticon things
#215 [03:07] <xales> Disable it, uninstall it, add an exception for Minecraft
#216 [03:07] <xales> any of those
#217 [03:07] <xales> and if you don't like the emoticons, then don't use Mibbit
#218 [03:07] <xales> there are far, far better clients out there ._.
#219 [03:08] <a> well i will try to make an exception for minecraft because i dont want to disable it
#220 [03:08] <xales> Disabling it doesn't hurt anything. It is a valuable debugging tool. Antivirus software isn't a "magical barrier" that stops malicious programs constantly trying to get in
#221 [03:09] <xales> The most common use of it is preventing the _user_ from running something they downloaded, which was malicious
#222 [03:11] <a> haha... well my mom being protective and all made an administrator account and i need her password to disable it ._. plus i shouldnt be playing because im grounded...... ohh and shes asleep cause its like 2:15 am
#223 [03:11] <VoxelHead> Are we going to have trouble, soldier?
#224 [03:11] <_303> ??> a mibbit
#225 [03:11] <VoxelHead> a: (mibbit) Mibbit is a particularly bad excuse for an IRC client. It is slow, and doesn't show you many important things. It doesn't follow the IRC standards, and has numerous other problems.
#226 [03:11] <VoxelHead> a: (mibbit) There are much better alternatives, such as PChat and mIRC for Windows, XChat-Aqua for Mac, irssi and XChat for Linux
#227 [03:12] <a> i found colors
#228 [03:12] <a> im gonna go to sleep now
#229 [03:13] <a> bye
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#231 [03:18] <panitaliemom> I need help
#232 [03:18] <panitaliemom> When ever i try to play multiplayer it say connection timed out
#233 [03:19] <xales> Server is not running, then
#234 [03:19] <xales> or you are entering an incorrect IP
#235 [03:19] <panitaliemom> does that mean the server is brocken or no one is on it
#236 [03:19] <Thoatt> or the ports are not forwarded correctly to the server.
#237 [03:19] <xales> As I said, it is not running or you are not entering a correct IP
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#239 [03:20] <panitaliemom> i entered it correctly i checked its just saying the same thing over and over again
#240 [03:20] <Thoatt> Then the server is not running.
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#242 [03:20] <Thoatt> ._.
#243 [03:20] <panitaliemom> what does that mean?
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#245 [03:21] <xales> It means exactly what we said
#246 [03:21] <xales> Whoever runs the server, is not currently runnning it
#247 [03:21] <Steamtrain13> i cant join my mates server
#248 [03:22] <xales> Steamtrain13: Why can't you?
#249 [03:22] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =O
#250 [03:22] <Steamtrain13> it says java net socket timeout exception read timed out
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#253 [03:24] <Steamtrain13> dw it was his server
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#256 [03:33] <mib_kq6p7a> foxwolf
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#259 [03:39] <Danny> hi??
#260 [03:39] <Danny> anyone?
#261 [03:40] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
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#266 [03:53] <mib_z5t7a1> brondan
#267 [03:54] <mib_z5t7a1> I have just purchased minecraft but am having trouble knowing where to go to play it
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#272 [03:58] <FallOut_eX> hi
#273 [03:59] <_303> gello
#274 [03:59] <_303> hello*
#275 [03:59] <FallOut_eX> i'm new and looking for help, any1 able to help with noob questions? :D
#276 [03:59] <_303> just ask your questions
#277 [03:59] <FallOut_eX> is it possible to host a server without paying?
#278 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#280 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp - Beta server software is at the bottom of the list
#281 [04:00] <FallOut_eX> is that thru minecraft classic and server software?
#282 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> Running a server does not depend on an account, you can run either classic or beta servers for free.
#283 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> Playing beta, does require an account though
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#285 [04:02] <FallOut_eX> i haven't purchased an account/game yet
#286 [04:02] <FallOut_eX> i'd like to play classic on a server for free with friends to trial b4 i buy
#287 [04:02] <FallOut_eX> i downloaded the classic server software
#288 [04:02] <FallOut_eX> i can run that fine
#289 [04:03] <FallOut_eX> but i can't connect to it
#290 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, you'll need to port forward through your router if you're on a home connection, as well as set up any security software running on your machine to let in Port 25565/TCP traffic
#291 [04:03] <FallOut_eX> when i click "Play Minecraft Classic (Outdated, but free): Single player" nothing happens
#292 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> Got java installed on your machine? http://www.java.com
#293 [04:04] <FallOut_eX> it takes me to a page where i think it's ment to load on java, i have 1.6
#294 [04:04] <FallOut_eX> but nothing opens up
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#296 [04:04] <FallOut_eX> ya
#297 [04:04] <FallOut_eX> i installed about a week ago
#298 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any sort of java certificate popping up, asking you to accept it?
#299 [04:04] <FallOut_eX> nope
#300 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> If you don't, it's possible either your browser, or your security software is blocking java
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#302 [04:05] <FallOut_eX> mmm i disable addblocker
#303 [04:05] <FallOut_eX> and still nothing
#304 [04:05] <VoxelHead> =D
#305 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> Try a different browser or try looking at your browser's security settings
#306 [04:05] <FallOut_eX> i don't see a msg from mozilla firefox saying it blocked something
#307 [04:06] <FallOut_eX> is 1.6.5 the version of classic minecraft? or is that the current beta purchased game?
#308 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> 1.6.6 is the current beta version
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#310 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> .30 is the classic version
#311 [04:07] <FallOut_eX> oh k
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#314 [04:12] <FallOut_eX> when i type commands in run eg; java -version
#315 [04:12] <FallOut_eX> it pops up then disappears, is there a way to make it persist?
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#317 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> I assume you're on a windows machine?
#318 [04:12] <FallOut_eX> yes, XP
#319 [04:13] <FallOut_eX> windows XP
#320 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> In the run command, type in: cmd
#321 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> That'll bring up the command prompt
#322 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> Do java -version there
#323 [04:13] <FallOut_eX> tyvm
#324 [04:13] <FallOut_eX> 1.6.0_11-b03
#325 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> That sounds like a very old version of java there.
#326 [04:14] <mib_ixfos3> Hi i have moded blocks on a save but i cant play it now it has updated is there anywhay to remove the blocks without destorying the save?
#327 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> mib_ixfos3 - Not really, no.
#328 [04:14] <mib_ixfos3> You sure?
#329 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> FallOut_eX - Try a complete uninstall of java through your control panel's add/remove programs, then reinstall it from java.com
#330 [04:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_ixfos3 - You could try MCedit, but I have no idea if it'll be able to read those custom blocks
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#332 [04:15] <mib_ixfos3> what if i got updated version of the moded blocks would that work?
#333 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> Possibly
#334 [04:16] <mib_ixfos3> ok thanks
#335 [04:19] <Lexe> made a compass, how can i use it ? :(
#336 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> Put it in your bar at the bottom, pull it out.
#337 [04:20] <OODavo> Or just look at it in said bar. Doesn't actually need to be equipped to work.
#338 [04:21] <Lexe> ok silly me, didnt notice it was already working
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#340 [04:25] <It> mcedit has placeholders for custom blocks
#341 [04:25] <It> at the very least you will be able to remove the block
#342 [04:25] * GreyVulpine did not know that
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#343 [04:28] <SlashLife> Lexe: Actually, you wouldn't even need to craft it, it also works in the product slot of the workbench.
#344 [04:28] <SlashLife> Can anyone suggest a server? =)
#345 [04:28] <SlashLife> Oh, wait.
#346 [04:28] <SlashLife> You already gave me that page.
#347 [04:28] <SlashLife> I'll just continue browsing it.
#348 [04:28] <SlashLife> Thanks. :)
#349 [04:29] <Space_Core> xales r doop
#350 [04:29] * VoxelHead kicked SlashLife from #minecrafthelp (Reason: flood)
#351 [04:29] <Space_Core> why would this channel be +s
#352 [04:29] <_303> Space_Core: so spam bots don't come here as often
#353 [04:29] <_303> I guess
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#355 [04:29] <Space_Core> -_-
#356 [04:30] <Space_Core> it's listed all over the internet, and in the #minecraft topic
#357 [04:30] * Space_Core slaps GreyVulpine around a bit with a large useless mode preventing spamfilters from working properly
#357 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea why +s is set
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#362 [04:38] <SlashLife> O_o
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#366 [04:45] <tkoenig234> Hi, I've got a question about purchasing...
#367 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> Ask away.
#368 [04:46] <tkoenig234> I don't want to give away credit card information over the internet, and Paypal has its issues too. Now I noticed gift certificates for auction on ebay, but that makes me a little bit suspicious.
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#370 [04:46] <tkoenig234> (especially since they are cheaper than the original)
#371 [04:46] <GreyVulpine> I wouldn't buy minecraft over ebay, or any third party sites
#372 [04:46] <GreyVulpine> People have been known to get scammed over them
#373 [04:47] <tkoenig234> So I probably won't be able to buy it, then... not until it goes out of beta stage. Bumer.
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#375 [04:47] <tkoenig234> (bummer, I mean)
#376 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Why do you want to wait till it's out of beta?
#377 [04:47] <tkoenig234> None of the payment options offered are acceptable.
#378 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is, and will most likely be, purchased online only.
#379 [04:48] <FallOut_eX> GreyVulpine, uninstall and re-install java lets me run classic in browser now. tyvm ^_^
#380 [04:48] <GreyVulpine> FallOut_eX - Good to hear.
#381 [04:49] <tkoenig234> greyvulpine: By the way, the conditions of use are a joke. Change them retroactively?
#382 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> I do not work for Mojang, there's nobody here that works for mojang.
#383 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> We're community run support.
#384 [04:49] <tkoenig234> oh well.. it's a pity that you won't see me (or rather my son) in the community.
#385 [04:49] <GreyVulpine> Sorry to hear that.
#386 [04:50] <FallOut_eX> what do u mean conditions are a joke?
#387 [04:50] <tkoenig234> Is there any way to reach these guys directly? I could not find anything on the website.
#388 [04:50] <tkoenig234> fallout_ex: Just a sec...
#389 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Either through twitter, or email
#390 [04:51] <tkoenig234> We reserve the right to change this agreement at any time with or without notice, with immediate and/or retroactive effect.
#391 [04:51] <FallOut_eX> everything says that tho?
#392 [04:51] <tkoenig234> fallout_ex: This has to be a joke.
#393 [04:51] <FallOut_eX> World of Warcraft says that and billions of ppl play.
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#395 [04:51] <FallOut_eX> well millions*
#396 [04:51] <tkoenig234> ... like, we reserve the right to retroactively charge you 100000 Euro?
#397 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> tkoenig234 - 2 million people have paid for minecraft. All of them, online purchases
#398 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> Um, no?
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#400 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> They're not an evil company, they're a bunch of guys from sweden, just developing a game that people like.
#401 [04:52] <FallOut_eX> i don't think laws in any country would work that way
#402 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> If you don't want to chance paying online in this day and age, or don't care for their licensing agreement, that's your choice.
#403 [04:53] <tkoenig234> greyvulpine: I'm not disputing that. They just should clear up their terms of use a little :-)
#404 [04:53] <FallOut_eX> is minecraft once only purchase or pay per play?
#405 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> One time only
#406 [04:53] <GreyVulpine> There is no subscription fee.
#407 [04:53] <FallOut_eX> kk
#408 [04:53] <tkoenig234> gery: Yes, that's of course true.
#409 [04:54] <FallOut_eX> tkoenig i don't kno the laws in ur country or sweden, but at a guess, if minecraft charged u money without ur request/concent, i think they'd b in a lot of trouble
#410 [04:54] <FallOut_eX> i don't think retroactively charge you for 100,000 euro should b a concern
#411 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> tkoenig234 - If you're worried about online purchases, many credit card issers can and do offer a one-time use number that you can hand out to retailers, and not have to worry.
#412 [04:54] <FallOut_eX> good idea :)
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#414 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> On top of that, there are quite a number of prepaid cards, like green dot in the US, that would work online.
#415 [04:55] <mib_i5645m> hi
#416 [04:55] <mib_i5645m> hi
#417 [04:55] <FallOut_eX> hi
#418 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#419 [04:55] <tkoenig234> fallout_ex: yep. It's simply such an obvious blooper.
#420 [04:55] <mib_i5645m> minecraft doesnt sart
#421 [04:55] <GreyVulpine> tkoenig234 - Really no blooper.
#422 [04:55] <mib_i5645m> =(
#423 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Before Mojang was conceived, it was a one man show.
#424 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Notch was the only developer, working from home.
#425 [04:56] <mib_i5645m> can someone help me?
#426 [04:56] <tkoenig234> Greyvulpine: I know the history.
#427 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Since setting up Mojang as a business, he hired a lawyer, who insisted he change a few policies, which he followed
#428 [04:56] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll know what policies had to be changed.
#429 [04:57] <mib_i5645m> heii houuu?
#430 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> That clause is still there, in case he needs to change it again.
#431 [04:57] <GreyVulpine> Any company worth their salt, has a "This agreement can change" clause in it.
#432 [04:57] <FallOut_eX> mib_i5645m, are u trying to play through your browser, or downloaded program?
#433 [04:57] <tkoenig234> anyway... looks like I'm out of luck. Maybe I can find somebody with lower security concerns who can send me a gift code that I can use.
#434 [04:57] <tkoenig234> greyvulpine: Yes: but not retroactively. That's silly.
#435 [04:58] <mib_i5645m> downloaded
#436 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> tkoenig234 - Sure, but looks like I'm not going to change your mind about it.
#437 [04:58] <tkoenig234> gery: No... but thanks anyway!
#438 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Enjoy minecraft, if you do decide to get it.
#439 [04:58] <tkoenig234> bye!
#440 [04:58] <mib_i5645m> ?
#441 [04:59] <mib_i5645m> i ve got minecrfat
#442 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> Internet-phobic person, thinks buying online isn't safe.
#443 [04:59] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#443 [04:59] <FallOut_eX> *nods*
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#446 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_i5645m - And?
#447 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> What is the exact problem you're dealing with currently?
#448 [04:59] <FallOut_eX> "minecraft doesn't start"
#449 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't tell me much
#450 [05:00] <FallOut_eX> "playing from downloaded, not from browser"
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#452 [05:00] <mib_i5645m> after mojang there t is balck
#453 [05:00] <FallOut_eX> sometimes mine takes a long time to load
#454 [05:00] <GreyVulpine> Has minecraft worked before?
#455 [05:00] <mib_i5645m> in version 1.5.1
#456 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> Then most likely, you had an old texture pack, or mod installed on your minecraft, follow these directions.
#457 [05:01] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_i5645m win/reinst
#458 [05:01] <VoxelHead> mib_i5645m: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#459 [05:01] <VoxelHead> mib_i5645m: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#460 [05:02] <mib_i5645m> i should delete my texture packs?
#461 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#462 [05:02] <kendle> I Have a fast computer with 4 gigs of ram, but minecraft is always really slow
#463 [05:02] <mib_i5645m> can i downgrade minecrfat again?
#464 [05:02] <GreyVulpine> If you save minecraft.jar from /.minecraft/bin/ yes
#465 [05:03] <mib_i5645m> how can do that?
#466 [05:03] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to get to your .minecraft folde?
#467 [05:04] <mib_i5645m> yes
#468 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> folder even
#469 [05:04] <mib_i5645m> ?
#470 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> Then just copy the minecraft.jar file out from .minecraft/bin
#471 [05:04] <GreyVulpine> Put it back in if you want to downgrade
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#473 [05:04] <mib_i5645m> where should i put it?
#474 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> Same place, /.minecraft/bin
#475 [05:05] <mib_i5645m> i should put mincraft.jar in the bin folder?
#476 [05:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#477 [05:07] <mib_i5645m> i havent got a file wahts got the name minecraft.jar
#478 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> If you're in .minecraft/bin and do not see minecraft.jar, chances are you do not have file extensions turned on in windows
#479 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Go to Tools -> folder options -> view tab -> uncheck the "hide file extensions for known file types" checkbox
#480 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Then check the bin folder again
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#482 [05:10] <mib_i5645m> sorry i dont understand u i cant speak enlish very well
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#485 [05:14] <FallOut_eX> my friend says he was playing multiplayer minecraft on v1.6.5, he said 1 person had purchased the server, and every1 else who hadn't paid was able to connect and play together with him. does this sound right, or is some1 confused?
#486 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> It sounds right, because he's got name verification turned off, and those people that haven't paid, pirated the game
#487 [05:14] <GreyVulpine> It happens.
#488 [05:15] <FallOut_eX> i see
#489 [05:15] <FallOut_eX> :S
#490 [05:15] <FallOut_eX> i like the sound of paying and then my friends get to play with me, but i don't like the sound of pirate :(
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#494 [05:20] <mib_i5645m> thanks it works
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#500 [05:28] <FallOut_eX> greyvulpine, when u were talking about the minecraft.jar. does replacing the minecraft.jar with a newer version completely upgrade minecraft?
#501 [05:28] <bhuf> One of my single player worlds has randomly disappeared.
#502 [05:29] <OODavo> The minecraft.jar is just the launcher.
#503 [05:29] <OODavo> Oh, wait.
#504 [05:29] <OODavo> Depends on which minecraft.jar we're referencing.
#505 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> FallOut_eX - The minecraft.jar in .minecraft/bin is the actual game.
#506 [05:29] <FallOut_eX> kk
#507 [05:29] <FallOut_eX> that interesting
#508 [05:29] <GreyVulpine> If you replace that with whatever version of minecraft, then yes.
#509 [05:30] <FallOut_eX> most games require multiple file downloads and whatever, i like that this is soo small, simple and fast
#510 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> OODavo's thinking of the minecraft.jar from the website, which is yes, the launcher
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#512 [05:30] <bhuf> One of my single player worlds has randomly disappeared.
#513 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> ??> bhuf nullsave
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#515 [05:30] <VoxelHead> bhuf: (nullsave) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#516 [05:30] <VoxelHead> bhuf: (nullsave) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#517 [05:30] <bhuf> whats nullsave?
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#519 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> just the title of the faq entry of the bot
#520 [05:31] <Flokkes> I got a problem
#521 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> We have answers
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#523 [05:32] <Flokkes> my computer has some problems with the pixels
#524 [05:32] <GreyVulpine> Pixel format not accelerated?
#525 [05:32] <Flokkes> yes
#526 [05:32] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you running?
#527 [05:33] <Flokkes> what do you mean??
#528 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Windows? Mac? Linux?
#529 [05:33] <Flokkes> windows
#530 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Could you please give me this:
#531 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> ??> Flokkes win/dxdiag
#532 [05:33] <VoxelHead> Flokkes: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#533 [05:33] <VoxelHead> Flokkes: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#534 [05:33] <bhuf> Because i lost 1 of my single player worlds can i get it back or not?
#535 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> bhuf - Yes, if you follow VoxelHead's directions
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#537 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> ??> bhuf nullsave
#538 [05:34] <VoxelHead> bhuf: (nullsave) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#539 [05:34] <VoxelHead> bhuf: (nullsave) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#540 [05:34] <Binkster> Or use my method
#541 [05:34] <Binkster> Shall I explain
#542 [05:36] <bhuf> its dowloading now however will it mess the laptop or my head around?
#543 [05:36] <Binkster> Bhuf
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#545 [05:36] <Binkster> I have another method that can help without downloading anything
#546 [05:37] <bhuf> i have the MCEdit but what do i do with it?
#547 [05:38] <Binkster> Kay dude, I just wait, bhuf you should also consider this method, what you can do is create a new world, save it, and then quit Minecraft. Go into your .minecraft/saves/ folder, then go into the folder for the new world. Ctrl-C (copy) the level.dat, level.dat_OLD, and session.lock files. Then go to your corrupted world.
#548 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> Open up MCedit, load your world, press the CTRL+S keys to save it, press Alt-F4 to close MCedit
#549 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft
#550 [05:38] <Binkster> Or that
#551 [05:38] <Binkster> Do greys thing first
#552 [05:39] <Binkster> Grey
#553 [05:39] <bhuf> that sounds complicated and im not a computer wizzzzzzzz
#554 [05:39] <Binkster> Who's?h
#555 [05:40] <Binkster> Ok someone needs to start typin
#556 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#557 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> bhuf - Open up MCedit, load your world, press the CTRL+S keys to save it, press Alt-F4 to close MCedit
#558 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> then relaunch minecraft
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#561 [05:43] <Binkster> Grey do u know approximately when the new mo creatures is coming out, for 1.6.6
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#563 [05:43] <Binkster> Blynky can we help u with anything?
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#566 [05:44] <Anduril> Hello
#567 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> Binkster - I do not know, sorry.
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#569 [05:45] <Binkster> It's cool
#570 [05:45] <Anduril> I have a problem running Minecraft
#571 [05:45] <Binkster> Anduril what is it exactly
#572 [05:46] <Anduril> When i open it it says could not create java virtual machine
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#575 [05:47] <Anduril> When i open it it says could not create java virtual machine
#576 [05:47] <Binkster> Lol my bad
#577 [05:47] <Binkster> Grey dont u have a video for this
#578 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> Usually is fixed by completely uninstalling and reinstalling java.
#579 [05:48] <Anduril> I already tried that
#580 [05:48] <Binkster> Is ti compatible with your O.S.
#581 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have?
#582 [05:48] <Binkster> I.e 32, 64 bit
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#584 [05:49] <Anduril> 32 bit
#585 [05:49] <Binkster> Is java 32 bit?
#586 [05:49] <claude> when i try to update it says fatal error (4):null
#587 [05:50] <Anduril> How can i check?
#588 [05:50] <Binkster> Claude u should try completely reinstalling minecraft
#589 [05:50] <claude> how do I do that
#590 [05:50] <Binkster> Andu
#591 [05:50] <Anduril> Meaning?
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#593 [05:51] <Binkster> ?? win/reinst
#594 [05:51] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#595 [05:51] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#596 [05:51] <Binkster> Follow voxels interactions
#597 [05:51] <claude> thanks
#598 [05:51] <Anduril> Thanks
#599 [05:53] <Binkster> Not u anduril
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#601 [05:53] <Anduril> Didnt work Damn
#602 [05:53] <Binkster> Lol sorry
#603 [05:53] <Binkster> Grey u want to handle this one
#604 [05:53] <Anduril> Anyway how do i check what java?
#605 [05:53] <Binkster> It is mor your area
#606 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on Anduril?
#607 [05:54] <Anduril> Xp 32-bit
#608 [05:54] <Anduril> Windows
#609 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, go to the run command, there, type in: cmd
#610 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt window that pops up, type in: java -version
#611 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Give us the output of that command here
#612 [05:55] <Binkster> That is an older system, he might have inadequate ram
#613 [05:55] <Binkster> Or even graphics card
#614 [05:55] <Anduril> How?
#615 [05:55] <Binkster> How what?
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#617 [05:55] <Anduril> Its been working fine up until now
#618 [05:56] <Binkster> Than do what greyvulpine is tell u
#619 [05:56] <mib_pfsxol> when I log on it says fatal error ocurred (4): null
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#621 [05:56] <Binkster> Try reinstalling minecraft mob_pfsxol
#622 [05:57] <mib_pfsxol> OK
#623 [05:57] <Binkster> Mob_pfsxol
#624 [05:57] <Binkster> Dang it!
#625 [05:57] <Binkster> Lol good luck
#626 [05:57] <Anduril> Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Keuken> C:\Documents and Settings\Keuken>java -version java version "1.6.0_25" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_25-b06) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode, sharing) C:\Documents and Settings\Keuken> C:\Documents and Setti
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#628 [05:58] <Anduril> Thats the output
#629 [05:59] <Binkster> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm *breathes* hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
#630 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, right click on My Computer, go to properties.
#631 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Tell me how much Memory is listed there
#632 [05:59] <Binkster> Ram memory
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#635 [06:01] <Anduril> 1.43 gb
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#637 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, and you're sure you've completely removed all traces of java before installing it again?
#638 [06:02] <Anduril> Yes!
#639 [06:03] <Anduril> It said on the site i reinstalled it from (Java.com)
#640 [06:03] <Binkster> How well was it working before it didn't work
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#642 [06:03] <Anduril> Quite well it was a little bit laggy at some times But thats all
#643 [06:04] <Binkster> Got anything grey?
#644 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Thinking's it's RAM
#645 [06:04] <Binkster> Same
#646 [06:04] <Anduril> Ok
#647 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried running minecraft after a fresh reboot?
#648 [06:04] <Anduril> Yes
#649 [06:05] <Anduril> It seemed to happen after 1.6 update
#650 [06:05] <Binkster> Is a system that old upgradable?
#651 [06:05] <Anduril> And its only the exe. thats not working
#652 [06:05] <GreyVulpine> Could you right click on your taskbar, go to "Task Manager", head up to the performace tab
#653 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> Under the Physical Memory box, what's the number next to available?
#654 [06:06] <Anduril> Im there
#655 [06:07] <Anduril> 924176 ish
#656 [06:07] <Binkster> Kb, mb?
#657 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> usually is listed in KB
#658 [06:07] <Anduril> It doesnt say
#659 [06:07] <Binkster> O ok
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#661 [06:08] <Binkster> Then a bit less then a gig
#662 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> That should still be plenty for minecraft to at least start with..
#663 [06:08] <Binkster> Well that's is for the entire computer
#664 [06:08] <Binkster> Not all of that is Jed for java
#665 [06:09] <Binkster> Used, not Jed
#666 [06:09] <Anduril> And i only have about one otther program open
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#668 [06:09] <Binkster> Which program
#669 [06:09] <Anduril> Microsoft outlook
#670 [06:10] <Anduril> and sometimes mozzila
#671 [06:10] <Binkster> Hmmm
#672 [06:11] <Binkster> Grey?
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#674 [06:11] <GreyVulpine> I don't know..
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#676 [06:11] <Binkster> Same
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#678 [06:13] <mib_493tbu> Is anyone else having trouble connecting to minecraft servers?
#679 [06:13] <Anduril> Yes
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#681 [06:13] <mib_jju8ax> ummmm guys can someone help me i have tryed to download a texture pack called bordercraft but when i got it on my profile it said ther was a proplem with minecraft and now i dont know what to do plz help
#682 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_jju8ax win/reinst
#683 [06:13] <VoxelHead> mib_jju8ax: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#684 [06:13] <VoxelHead> mib_jju8ax: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#685 [06:13] <Binkster> Anduril yours is not a vconnection problem
#686 [06:14] <Anduril> On the internet
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#688 [06:15] <Binkster> Well it is 5 in the morning here and I have to go to bed good luck anduril see ya all
#689 [06:16] <Anduril> See ya
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#692 [06:18] <mib_493tbu> Can anyone help me figure out why I can't connect to minecraft servers
#693 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_493tbu - What happens when you try to connect?
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#695 [06:18] <mib_493tbu> It tells me Connection Refuesed:Connected at the the top its says Connection failed
#696 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_493tbu - Is this for beta?
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#698 [06:19] <mib_493tbu> yup
#699 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_493tbu - Try the server: s.nerd.nu in the multiplayer field
#700 [06:20] <mib_493tbu> yeah it wants the IP address to a server
#701 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> Try "s.nerd.nu" in the field
#702 [06:20] <GreyVulpine> without the quotes
#703 [06:21] <mib_493tbu> son of a gun
#704 [06:21] <mib_493tbu> thanks
#705 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> That's a known working, updated server
#706 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> Looks like all the servers you've tried so far, are down
#707 [06:21] <mib_493tbu> how do you get a list servers
#708 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_493tbu smp/servers
#709 [06:21] <VoxelHead> mib_493tbu: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#710 [06:21] <VoxelHead> mib_493tbu: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#712 [06:22] <FallOut_eX> :S
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#715 [06:24] <mib_jju8ax> thank you my proplem is solved
#716 [06:24] <leaper> hello?
#717 [06:24] <leaper> i've a problem
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#719 [06:25] <figaro> hello, i've a problem with minecraft launcher
#720 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
#721 [06:26] <figaro> when i strat it, it appears a message saying
#722 [06:27] <figaro> Driver component mis-match. exit is the only option
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#724 [06:27] <figaro> what can i do?
#725 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> figaro - Update your video drivers
#726 [06:27] <figaro> how i do that?
#727 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what video card you have?
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#729 [06:28] <figaro> emmm i think that is an nvidia video card, but i don't remember it well
#730 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows?
#731 [06:29] <figaro> yes, windows vista
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#733 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, right click on "Computer" and go to properties
#734 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> There, tell me the Windows edition.
#735 [06:30] <mib_sgo5on> why can't i open chests or other things when im playing multiplayer ??
#736 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> After that, go to Device manager on the left side, go to display adapters
#737 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_sgo5on - The server may have some sort of plugin preventing people from stealing from chests, try making your own
#738 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> figaro - After going to display adapters, tell me what's listed there
#739 [06:31] <figaro> is a windows vista home premium
#740 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> What's listed next to System type, further down the page?
#741 [06:32] <mib_sgo5on> and i also got other problems with it. like im over 10 seconds delay
#742 [06:32] <figaro> operative system of 32 bits
#743 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> figaro - Alright, could you go to Device manager now
#744 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> Look for display adapters
#745 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> What's listed there?
#746 [06:33] <figaro> wait a second, it goes a little bit slow
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#748 [06:35] <figaro> ok, its NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GS
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#750 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Gotcha, one moment
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#752 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> figaro - You'll want to download and install the updated video driver from here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-275.33-whql-driver.html
#753 [06:37] <figaro> is there an spanish version?
#754 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> http://la.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-275.33-whql-driver-la.html
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#765 [06:50] <figaro> Greyvulpine, now y run it?
#766 [06:51] <figaro> I supose yes
#767 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#784 [07:15] <eaglefate> can some one help me out with a problem
#785 [07:15] <eaglefate> ?
#786 [07:15] <_303> what problem?
#787 [07:18] <eaglefate> well iim haveing a problem that when i log on to my online minecraft server, all i see is my avatars outline, which is totaly black, the sreen is solid grey, but my tool bar is normal,
#788 [07:18] <eaglefate> i am useing a mac
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#790 [07:20] <eaglefate> any help would be appricated
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#796 [07:30] <mib_k86oi7> minecraft is giving me a black screen only..
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#802 [07:41] <mib_gu91gb> Can someone help me. Everytime I start minecraft It stops after the Mojang screen. Should I update something or what can I do?
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#806 [07:42] <nomnomnom> I can't play minecraft!
#807 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_gu91gb win/reinst
#808 [07:42] <VoxelHead> mib_gu91gb: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#809 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> nomnomnom - Why is that?
#810 [07:42] <VoxelHead> mib_gu91gb: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#814 [07:46] <mib_gu91gb> I can't delete the bin and texture pack directory
#815 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> Close down minecraft, then try again
#816 [07:47] <mib_gu91gb> I have
#817 [07:47] <mib_gu91gb> but it doesn't work
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#819 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> Check your task manager, go to processes, end any process that has Java in it
#820 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> Then try deleting it again
#821 [07:47] <pilzeey> can some1 help me with my minecraft?
#822 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
#823 [07:48] <pilzeey> i was already here
#824 [07:48] <pilzeey> log in...
#825 [07:48] <pilzeey> window black..
#826 [07:48] <pilzeey> closes itself...
#827 [07:48] <pilzeey> problem
#828 [07:48] <pilzeey> just on my computer
#829 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> Has it worked before?
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#831 [07:48] <pilzeey> no
#832 [07:48] <pilzeey> never
#833 [07:48] <mib_mg50gf> I can't play minecraft
#834 [07:49] <GreyVulpine> have you tried uninstalling java completely and reinstalling it?
#835 [07:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_mg50gf - Why can't you?
#836 [07:49] <pilzeey> yes but ill try it again later
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#838 [07:49] <mib_mg50gf> If I update it it don't go further than 23 procent
#839 [07:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_mg50gf - Disable any firewall or security software you have, then try again
#840 [07:50] <mib_mg50gf> Thanks
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#843 [07:52] <pilzeey> im reinstalling java now
#844 [07:52] <pilzeey> which version?
#845 [07:53] <pilzeey> newest?
#846 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> That depends, what operating system do you have? Is it 32bit or 64 bit?
#847 [07:53] <pilzeey> i think its 32 bit
#848 [07:53] <pilzeey> this computer is a little older
#849 [07:53] <pilzeey> 4 or 5 years old
#850 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> Are you running windows?
#851 [07:54] <pilzeey> yes
#852 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Right click on your Computer, go to properties
#853 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> It'll tell you there
#854 [07:54] <pilzeey> it wont show if its 32 or 64 bit
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#856 [07:54] <pilzeey> ill tried it already
#857 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Sure it will
#858 [07:54] <pilzeey> its a bit f*cked up
#859 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> Then 32bit
#860 [07:55] <pilzeey> kay
#861 [07:55] <pilzeey> now which version of java
#862 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#863 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> Go there, download the 32 bit version for windows
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#866 [07:56] <mib_ypcdoy> hi all
#867 [07:56] <pilzeey> it doesnt stand there which link is for which bit version
#868 [07:56] <murdrums> Is there any setting i can change on minecart mania to use powered minetracks as default, as if minecart mania wasnt on the server?
#869 [07:56] <pilzeey> first or second link?
#870 [07:56] <mib_ypcdoy> Just looking for some help for our server - we're struggling with 'chuck errors' or 'map holes' whatever you want to call them
#871 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> murdrums - We don't really support mods here, ask in #risucraft
#872 [07:56] <mib_ypcdoy> I've found alot of people with the same issues but no fix?
#873 [07:57] <murdrums> Ok, thanks Grey
#874 [07:57] <GreyVulpine> pilzeey - The first link is for 32 bit, the second is for 64
#875 [07:57] <pilzeey> ty
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#877 [07:58] <mib_ypcdoy> Can anyone help with this? It's driving us nuts!
#878 [07:58] <pilzeey> okay it finished
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#880 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_ypcdoy - Map holes are usually caused by the server not being able to keep up with all the processing and/or network traffic
#881 [07:59] <pilzeey> what to do now?
#882 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> All you can do there, is upgrade the server
#883 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> pilzeey - Try minecraft again
#884 [07:59] <pilzeey> ok
#885 [07:59] <neobenedict> lol map holes. Where a chunk is missing?
#886 [07:59] <mib_ypcdoy> yep
#887 [07:59] <neobenedict> What about when a chunk is actually missing?
#888 [08:00] <neobenedict> And lava/water from the previous chunks flow into the void?
#889 [08:00] <GreyVulpine> That's map corruption, that's different
#890 [08:00] <neobenedict> had that, hat to regenerate the chunks
#891 [08:00] <neobenedict> does it stay?
#892 [08:00] <neobenedict> had*
#893 [08:00] <pilzeey> doesnt work
#894 [08:00] <GreyVulpine> No, just either remove the chunk yourself, like you did, or revert back to a previous backup
#895 [08:00] <pilzeey> im afk for like 10 - 15 minutes
#896 [08:00] <mib_ypcdoy> I've read so many pages that claim that it isn't server performance? We have 2GB RAM (which isn't being used fully) and a 100mb line
#897 [08:00] <neobenedict> Is when a chunk goes missing like that like the plauge?
#898 [08:00] <neobenedict> spreads
#899 [08:00] <neobenedict> to new chunks
#900 [08:01] <GreyVulpine> neobenedict - Usually not
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#902 [08:01] <neobenedict> well our map had a section of chunks which didn't generate in a line
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#904 [08:01] <neobenedict> And also
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#906 [08:01] <neobenedict> Light goes weird in water. new chunks have weird lines of light in water
#907 [08:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_ypcdoy - I usually see server performance as a reason for that behavior very frequently.
#908 [08:01] <neobenedict> need to put a torch in the water to fix it
#909 [08:01] <mib_nmce6q> thanks for the help it works now
#910 [08:02] <neobenedict> which is annoying
#911 [08:02] <neobenedict> is that normal?
#912 [08:02] <GreyVulpine> pilzeey - Then, the next thing to try, is updating your video drivers.\
#913 [08:02] <GreyVulpine> neobenedict - Is what normal?
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#915 [08:02] <mib_ypcdoy> OK, in your opinion what do the server specs need to be to reduce or resolve the chunk issues?
#916 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how many people are usually on it, how modded it is, and what the server load is like
#917 [08:03] <mib_ypcdoy> The server owner upgraded the CPU which did not help the issue, although Im not sure what hardware hes actually using at the moment
#918 [08:04] <mib_ypcdoy> load is only usually no more than 10 players online at once, and we only have around 4 mods (bukkit - such as essentials, lockette)
#919 [08:04] <GreyVulpine> If you're using a budget hosting service, they could oversell the hardware that they're virtualizing on as well, impacting performance.
#920 [08:04] <GreyVulpine> There's quite a number of variables to really look at here.
#921 [08:05] <mib_ypcdoy> from what I know it's a dedicated server - and not a cheap one. I'm afraid I don't know much more.
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#924 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> Without knowing the server's specs, I couldn't begin to know where to start
#925 [08:07] <mib_ypcdoy> do you know the minimum recommended specs off the top of your head?
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#927 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> It changes with the number of people you have, how much they're taxing the system (load increases if more exploration is done, vs all standing in one place), how it's modded, with what version of the server mod, and how many plugins there are. Also can't forget to factor in network performance, how much upload bandwith the server has.
#928 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> CPU specs are fairly important, but RAM usage is even more so.
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#931 [08:11] <mib_ypcdoy> I'll try and answer these - I think it's running a dual core (2GB) has 2GB of RAM - there are only ever up to 10 people online and we are all within a reasonable space of each other - we have not been to any ends of the map at all. The server is patched to the latest release and has the latest version of bukkit and the 4 plugings that we have running.
#932 [08:11] <mib_ypcdoy> server also has a 10mb upload bandwidth
#933 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Know what plugins are running on it?
#934 [08:12] <mib_ypcdoy> let me get the exact list - one sec.
#935 [08:13] <mib_ypcdoy> nChat, Essentials, PlgSetspawn, GroupManager, EssentialsProtect, Lockette, mxTimedDoors - believe mxtimeddoors may have been removed though.
#936 [08:13] <mib_ypcdoy> didn't realise we had that many xD
#937 [08:14] <pilzeey> Grey i already updates my video drivers last week
#938 [08:14] <pilzeey> theres something with my computer
#939 [08:14] <GreyVulpine> That's actually fairly small, I've seen server admins with bukkit list plugins numbering a few dozen.
#940 [08:14] <pilzeey> some settungs but i dont know what is it
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#942 [08:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_ypcdoy - I'm leaning towards network performance, since the server itself sounds like it should be able to handle that load fine. I'm not familiar with some of those plugins, but it doesn't sound like anything too processing-intensive
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#944 [08:16] <GreyVulpine> pilzeey - Sometimes, black screens can't be explained, it's one of the most prevalent errors we get, and there could be a ton of reasons why it does it
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#946 [08:17] <mib_ypcdoy> they aren't, they are only minor mods - for things such as anti-grief and permissions. It very well could be network performance, but I think a 10mb upload should handle a minecraft server easily.
#947 [08:18] <mib_ypcdoy> the server is in America, and most of us are from the UK but we have US based people that experience the same issues on our server..
#948 [08:18] <GreyVulpine> You'd be surprised at the network usage of a typical minecraft server. 50-150K/sec per player was what I was seeing back in 1.5
#949 [08:18] <GreyVulpine> Don't know how much that's changed with the server code updates in 1.6
#950 [08:19] <mib_ypcdoy> I suppose, but the maths suggest 10mb should be able to handle all we need.
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#952 [08:19] * GreyVulpine shrugs and nods
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#953 [08:20] <dissentience> Hi there, I've noticed after not playing Minecraft for a while that I'm having weird bugs, even in SP and after deleting my .minecraft folder and redownloading... some blocks don't disappear, while others don't show up at all. Some parts of the map stay dark even during the day. Is this normal? If so, is there a way to fix it?
#954 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> dissentience - Used any texture packs?
#955 [08:21] <dissentience> In the past, but as I said I totally deleted my .minecraft folder and it's back at default now
#956 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> Well, actually, that would go away witha .minecraft delete..
#957 [08:21] <dissentience> I read the patch notes and apparently the disappearing block/lighting issues were fixed
#958 [08:21] <dissentience> But not for me, seemingly
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#960 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> A couple of them are still around, but not as frequent as before
#961 [08:22] <dissentience> The game actually crashed due to "running out of memory" a few minutes ago... is there a way to avoid that?
#962 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> Are you experiencing weather at all?
#963 [08:22] <dissentience> Not that I saw in the short time I was playing
#964 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> dissentience - Increasing the heap size of java helps somewhat
#965 [08:22] <dissentience> Would you mind telling/linking me how to do that?
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#967 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> Easiest way, go to: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#968 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> Download the linux .jar
#969 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> Example command line is also listed there, 512 allocated at start, 1024 allocated as max heap
#970 [08:24] <dissentience> I'll give that a shot, thanks
#971 [08:25] <mib_ypcdoy> would that perhaps work for our server Grey?
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#973 [08:26] <GreyVulpine> If your server was already allocating the full 2 gigs, there's not much else you can do with that.
#974 [08:26] <GreyVulpine> 2 gigs should be plenty for 10 people.
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#976 [08:28] <[TNT]> Hello.
#977 [08:28] <[TNT]> I got a little question.
#978 [08:28] <GreyVulpine> We've got little answers.
#979 [08:28] <[TNT]> Is griefing only one accuse for global ban?
#980 [08:29] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
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#983 [08:30] <GreyVulpine> There is no official means of maintaining a global ban list. Server admins are responsible for maintaining their server's ban list. There is a fan-made banlist called MCbans that many server owners like to use, to collaborate certain types of bans, but you'll need to check out their site to understand it.
#984 [08:31] <GreyVulpine> They're located at http://mcbans.com/
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#986 [08:34] <dissentience> GreyVulpine, whatever issue i was having, your fix seems to have solved it. Thanks a lot.
#987 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
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#990 [08:36] <Brammm> Hi everyone
#991 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#993 [08:37] <Brammm> I'm having a bit of an issue in SP :/ I made this BEAUTIFUL house with an AWESOME bedroom
#994 [08:37] <Brammm> but mobs keep spawning when I go to sleep :(
#995 [08:38] <Brammm> I've been searching the wiki and the bugtracker, but haven't read anything
#996 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> Check out http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bed
#997 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> And read the "How to safely place a bed" illustration
#998 [08:38] <Brammm> The beds are 3 blocks away from every wall and are on the second floor of the house
#999 [08:39] <Brammm> Wait, I have a screenshot, just a sec
#1000 [08:39] <GreyVulpine> How about the doors?
#1001 [08:39] <Brammm> They're closed :p
#1002 [08:39] <Morrolan> Brammm: Also I've heard that it helps to make sure that there are no unlit caves below the house.
#1003 [08:39] <Morrolan> And hello GreyVulpine.
#1004 [08:39] <Brammm> http://www.bramme.net/uploads/2011-06-01_23.51.15.png
#1005 [08:40] <Brammm> Morrolan: crap. I just started this map and spent some time digging. The map is FULL of caves :' )
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#1008 [08:40] <ReverendD> Also, try putting your light sources closer to the floor.
#1009 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> Brammm - I mean, which way do the doors open?
#1010 [08:41] <Brammm> oh
#1011 [08:41] <Brammm> ehm, let's take another screesnhot
#1012 [08:41] <Brammm> :p
#1013 [08:41] <GreyVulpine> Doors that have it hinged on a certain side, also are considered "in" or "out"
#1014 [08:41] <Morrolan> "Beds placed in the Nether will explode when the player tries to sleep."<-- God thanks I've read that before trying to sleep in the nether. XD
#1015 [08:41] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1016 [08:41] <Brammm> lol
#1017 [08:42] <[TNT]> GreyVulpine
#1018 [08:42] <[TNT]> Do You have a link for more ores mod?
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#1020 [08:42] <[TNT]> But a mod with MORE ores, not that with only 3 new ores.
#1021 [08:42] <Morrolan> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=site:minecraftforum.net+more+ores
#1022 [08:43] <[TNT]> It is in forums.
#1023 [08:43] <[TNT]> But I saw more ores mod with more ores.
#1024 [08:43] <[TNT]> Fake emerald, emerald, lava stone, grass stone, etc
#1025 [08:43] <Brammm> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/813/20110602144404.png/
#1026 [08:43] <GreyVulpine> I'm sorry, I don't really do mods.
#1027 [08:43] <Brammm> My hinges :p
#1028 [08:43] <Morrolan> [TNT]: Again, the first hit when you use google... http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/176557-15-01-more-ores-v06-05-fixed-bugs/
#1029 [08:43] <Brammm> Should I try putting the hinges the other way around?
#1030 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> Do those open in or out?
#1031 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> I can't really tell
#1032 [08:44] <Brammm> they open in
#1033 [08:44] <Brammm> i've placed them looking into the bedroom
#1034 [08:44] <mib_ypcdoy> Thanks for your help Grey, not sure where to go from here then! I'll ask the server owner to run some network diagnostics I guess. About out of ideas here :(
#1035 [08:45] <GreyVulpine> Sure, g'luck mib_ypcdoy, sorry I couldn't be more help
#1036 [08:45] <GreyVulpine> Brammm - Hmm, that should be the right way then
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#1038 [08:45] <[TNT]> Thank You Morrolan.
#1039 [08:45] <GreyVulpine> Anything underneath Brammm?
#1040 [08:45] <Brammm> Hmm, just placed them the other way around and slept: no mobs. it seems very random
#1041 [08:45] <Morrolan> [TNT]: You're welcome.
#1042 [08:46] <Brammm> Yeah, an empty room, but pretty well lit
#1043 [08:46] <Brammm> I'm also occasionally getting the "this bed is occupied" error message
#1044 [08:46] <GreyVulpine> That happens
#1045 [08:46] <ReverendD> If you are standing on the bed that can happen.
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#1047 [08:47] <Brammm> ah
#1048 [08:48] <Morrolan> And I thought that Notch actually fixed this bug.
#1049 [08:49] <Brammm> Silly Notch
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#1054 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#1055 [08:59] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.25 seconds.
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#1059 [09:01] <Jeffcake> Hello. I've got question about installation which i can't seem to find a work around for
#1060 [09:02] <oldtopmanserver> ??> Jeffcake ask
#1061 [09:02] <VoxelHead> Jeffcake: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1062 [09:02] <VoxelHead> Jeffcake: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1063 [09:03] <Brammm> Goddamnit. GreyVulpine mobs spawned again >_> uploading more screenshots
#1064 [09:03] <Jeffcake> I've downloaded the .exe from the minecraft site. I'm trying to install and I'm getting stuck at 36% while trying to obtain "lwjgl_util.jar". I've tried clearing the bin and trying again, but it's still not working
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#1066 [09:04] <GreyVulpine> Jeffcake - Check your security software/firewall. Make absolutely sure nothing's blocking java from communicating
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#1069 [09:05] <Jeffcake> Had a feeling it might be that. Is there any work around, i.e. downloading the .jar packages?
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#1071 [09:05] <GreyVulpine> Not really...
#1072 [09:05] <Jeffcake> Fatal Error Occured (4):Null was the error
#1073 [09:05] <Jeffcake> But alas, I think I'm stuck. Thank you for the help :)
#1074 [09:06] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that's because the launcher can't download the files
#1075 [09:06] <oldtopmanserver> Why can't you disable antivirus?
#1076 [09:06] <oldtopmanserver> And if you thought that that was the case, why didn't you try it?
#1077 [09:06] <Jeffcake> I'm not an admin on this network I'm afraid
#1078 [09:07] <Jeffcake> I was hoping there was a possibility of downloading the .jar's and manually trying to add them in
#1079 [09:07] <oldtopmanserver> Here is what you can do though.
#1080 [09:07] <Brammm> Once more the room: http://i51.tinypic.com/2ymhqxj.png Outside the bedroom: http://postimage.org/image/35rajmpok/ The room below the bedroom http://postimage.org/image/35qdgvrt0/
#1081 [09:07] <oldtopmanserver> Go home and download the jar
#1082 [09:07] <oldtopmanserver> Get the hidden minecraft folder
#1083 [09:07] <oldtopmanserver> And put that folder into place over at work
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#1085 [09:08] <oldtopmanserver> Jeffcake: Got it?
#1086 [09:08] <Jeffcake> Sounds a plan, Thank you!
#1087 [09:08] <oldtopmanserver> oyeah
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#1089 [09:08] <oldtopmanserver> I assume you want to know where the hidden folder is
#1090 [09:08] <oldtopmanserver> ??> Jeffcake win/reinst
#1091 [09:08] <VoxelHead> Jeffcake: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1092 [09:08] <VoxelHead> Jeffcake: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1093 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> Could just do:
#1094 [09:08] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/.minecraft
#1095 [09:09] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#1096 [09:09] <oldtopmanserver> Jeffcake: Instead of deleting the directory, move the folder
#1097 [09:09] <Jeffcake> Yep, I've got that folder open
#1098 [09:09] <oldtopmanserver> No
#1099 [09:09] <oldtopmanserver> You need to do it on a computer where it CAN download the packages
#1100 [09:10] <oldtopmanserver> Then move that computer's folder to the computer that can't download
#1101 [09:10] <Jeffcake> So I download it on a computer where it isn't blocked. Save it onto a pen drive/zip, open on this computer, and drag the filed into the .minecraft bin folder?
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#1103 [09:11] <adanUMCmaster> can you help me ?
#1104 [09:12] <adanUMCmaster> I have a problem with MC Multiplayer,
#1105 [09:12] <adanUMCmaster> when I connect at the beginning I am falling and falling ,
#1106 [09:13] <adanUMCmaster> and when the world is generated after 5-10 minutes I cant change there anything
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#1108 [09:13] <adanUMCmaster> It´s all just since the 1.6 update
#1109 [09:13] <adanUMCmaster> before that all went right
#1110 [09:13] <adanUMCmaster> can u help me ?
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#1117 [09:23] <weirdo> I can't play Minecraft beta online? If I update it it won't go any further than 23 procent, and if I don't update it it won't go any further than uploading done! What do i need to do now?
#1118 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> ??> weirdo win/reinst
#1119 [09:24] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1120 [09:24] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1124 [09:25] <Lexe> geh, i creeper pushed me in lava , lost everything lol
#1125 [09:26] <wheybags> hromium
#1126 [09:26] <wheybags> chromium
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#1128 [09:27] <wheybags> sorry, nvm
#1129 [09:28] <[L]> ?
#1130 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> 'lo L
#1131 [09:29] <[L]> Someone greeting me that isn't stupid? A miracle.
#1132 [09:29] <Boreeas> Hello L: ヽ( ｡ ヮﾟ)ノ
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#1136 [09:30] <weirdo> I can't play Minecraft beta online? It won't go any further than the uploading screen.
#1137 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Did you go into .minecraft and delete everything but your saves?
#1138 [09:31] <Balek91> Hi, I've bought a gift code and used it. For 2 weeks everything was ok, but now it tells me that I'm not a premium user. What can I do now?
#1139 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Also, check to see that you don't have any sort of security software that's blocking your java from connecting
#1140 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Balek91 - Where did you buy the gift code from?
#1141 [09:32] <Balek91> Allegro.pl
#1142 [09:32] <weirdo> Yes
#1143 [09:32] <Balek91> It worked and everything
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#1145 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Balek91 - http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
#1146 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, by the sounds of it, you got scammed.
#1147 [09:33] <Balek91> Oh, cool, so I've bought it from a thief.
#1148 [09:33] * GreyVulpine nods
#1148 [09:34] <Balek91> Also, gave positive feedback
#1149 [09:34] <Balek91> ;(
#1150 [09:34] <weirdo> too bad
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#1152 [09:35] <Balek91> Ok... Thank you anyway, at least I know what happened...
#1153 [09:35] <wheybags> [L]: my girlfriend was trying to launch chromium...
#1154 [09:35] <[L]> Chromium?
#1155 [09:35] <Balek91> Bye
#1156 [09:35] <wheybags> google chrome
#1157 [09:35] <[L]> And?
#1158 [09:36] <wheybags> sh has seen me just type it
#1159 [09:36] <wheybags> im on linux, so..
#1160 [09:36] <[L]> Why are you telling me this?
#1161 [09:36] <Boreeas> haha
#1162 [09:36] <weirdo> ???
#1163 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> weirdo - If you've deleted .minecraft, try looking into your security software, make a rule to allow java through if you can't figure out whether or not it's blocking java/minecraft
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#1170 [09:43] <Sassafrass> I can't connect to the server after downloading the game
#1171 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> Try the server: s.nerd.nu
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#1173 [09:44] <Sassafrass> No, i can't login or run the game :S
#1174 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> Oh, you can't run the game?
#1175 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try?
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#1177 [09:46] <Sassafrass> I can get the launcher but when i try to login it says cannot connect to server, and when i tried it in the browser it says that the game is almost done updating but then freezes
#1178 [09:46] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you using?
#1179 [09:47] <Sassafrass> Windows 7
#1180 [09:48] <oldtopmanserver> Do you have antivirus?
#1181 [09:48] <Sassafrass> yeah but the firewall is down
#1182 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Strange question, but does your windows username have an ! mark at the end?
#1183 [09:48] <Sassafrass> Yeah
#1184 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> That would do it
#1185 [09:49] <Sassafrass> I'll change that so and see if that works
#1186 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> Unforunately, renaming the account won't work
#1187 [09:49] <Sassafrass> Oh...
#1188 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> Try creating an entirely new windows account, one without !
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#1190 [09:49] <Sassafrass> OK
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#1195 [09:54] <Vivek> GreyVulpine, do you have any more suggestions for my driver problem?
#1196 [09:56] <Vivek> and could someone translate the error message into english so that i know what it is asking for?
#1197 [09:56] <TheNytangel> www.translate.google.com
#1198 [09:57] <McPlusPlus> [Mojang-blog] Minecraft activities on E3 (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/dzbeej
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#1200 [09:57] <Vivek> not like that :|
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#1202 [09:58] <TheNytangel> Lol
#1203 [09:58] <TheNytangel> You said you wanted it translated to english
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#1205 [09:58] <Vivek> http://mibpaste.com/4KENTB to english pls :)
#1206 [10:00] <Morrolan> Uhm, this IS english?
#1207 [10:00] <TheNytangel> Yeah..
#1208 [10:00] <TheNytangel> But
#1209 [10:00] <TheNytangel> It seems you have an error
#1210 [10:00] <TheNytangel> And it is in java
#1211 [10:00] <TheNytangel> And they use HTML coding :o
#1212 [10:01] <TheNytangel> Lol jk
#1213 [10:01] <Vivek> simple english ;)
#1214 [10:02] <Vivek> about 5 people here are/were trying to fix my problem(including you morrolan), i was just wondering what the error message is actually saying
#1215 [10:02] <Morrolan> No idea, really. :o
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#1217 [10:04] <Vivek> oh well, greyvulpine, g and kealper are all trying to solve it :D
#1218 [10:04] <Morrolan> It's a frequent error, but there's no real solution to it. Some people were able to fix it by reinstalling Java, other's weren't. :/
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#1220 [10:06] <mib_y2kosf> hello
#1221 [10:07] <mib_y2kosf> i have a problem
#1222 [10:07] <mib_y2kosf> can you help me?
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#1227 [10:11] <LiquiDs> alright
#1228 [10:11] <LiquiDs> why cant i sent messages in main chat ...i am registered and logged in
#1229 [10:12] <RSA_Homer> i need help...
#1230 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> ??> LiquiDs irc
#1231 [10:12] <VoxelHead> LiquiDs: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1232 [10:12] <VoxelHead> LiquiDs: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1233 [10:12] <LiquiDs> arg
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#1236 [10:16] <Vivek> i don't think its a frequent error, i have traced the source to the specific laptop i am using
#1237 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - Alright, try this:
#1238 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20036/a08/Win7Vista_15221.zip
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#1240 [10:16] <Vivek> yay, thanks :D
#1241 [10:16] <GreyVulpine> You're going to download that, extract it to a folder. Remember where you extracted it to
#1242 [10:17] <Vivek> ok
#1243 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> You're going to go into your start menu, right click on Computer, go to properties, go to the device manager
#1244 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Look for Display adapters.
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#1246 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> Right click on the Intel HD graphics entry, go to properties
#1247 [10:18] <GreyVulpine> Go to the drivers tab and select Update drivers.
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#1249 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> From there, "Browse to a location", where you're going to go to the folder where you extracted those drivers you downloaded earlier
#1250 [10:19] <GreyVulpine> You're going to select, um, Let me pick from a list of drivers, then press the "have disk" button.
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#1254 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> In the folder where you extracted the driver, there should be a folder for "Graphics", you'll want the file named...
#1255 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> igdlh.INF
#1256 [10:20] <mib_otbp61> Hi, I'm trying to play Minecraft on both of my computers with little succses on neither. Problem Nr1: "Can't connect to minecraft.net" appears in both launchers. Problem Nr2: Offline mode only gives me a black screen
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#1258 [10:21] <mib_otbp61> Been crusing the web for about 4 hours for a fix
#1259 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> What operating system, and can you connect to minecraft.net via those computers' browsers?
#1260 [10:21] <mib_otbp61> but nothing is working
#1261 [10:21] <mib_otbp61> Windows 7
#1262 [10:22] <mib_otbp61> using both explorer and firefox
#1263 [10:22] <cjtoscano> we recently bought MindCraft and my son is trying to log on, but the log in is constantly throttled
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#1265 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to pull up minecraft.net using a browser?
#1266 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> cjtoscano - Nothing you can really do but wait. Sometimes the minecraft authentication server's DB is overloaded
#1267 [10:23] <mib_otbp61> the webpage yes
#1268 [10:23] <Vivek> right i get what you mean
#1269 [10:23] <mib_otbp61> but i can't play the game in it either
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#1271 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> mib_otbp61 - Do you happen to have a windows username that has a ! mark in it?
#1272 [10:23] <cjtoscano> In 5 days he has only been able to play once after trying to log in repeatedly
#1273 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> cjtoscano - Tell him to stop trying constantly, it can trigger the throttling.
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#1275 [10:24] <mib_otbp61> Using firefox and start the game in the brower, but it stuck on loading the last part
#1276 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_otbp61 win/reinst
#1277 [10:25] <VoxelHead> mib_otbp61: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1278 [10:25] <VoxelHead> mib_otbp61: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1279 [10:25] <mib_otbp61> I do have a "!" in my windows user name yes
#1280 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> mib_otbp61 - That would be why
#1281 [10:25] <cjtoscano> he isn't trying constantly...he simply tries to log in twice per day....it doesn't seem reasonable to pay for a game and then never be able to play it
#1282 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_otbp61 - Try creating an entirely new windows account, that doesn't have an "!" in it
#1283 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_otbp61 - Simply renaming your current windows account won't do anything
#1284 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> cjtoscano - It happens, just give it a day before having him log back in. You're not the only person to experience this.
#1285 [10:27] <mib_otbp61> Will do that then, if it works, thanks alot, otherwise i'll be back ;)
#1286 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> I look forward to not having you back, in a good way.
#1287 [10:27] <Vivek> um i get the message: the folder you specified does not contain a compatible softaware driver for your device. If the folder contains a driver, make sure it is designed to work with windows for x64 based systems
#1288 [10:27] <cjtoscano> he's tried four days in a row, we'll try for a few more days
#1289 [10:28] <Vivek> who me?
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#1291 [10:29] <Vivek> oh i see what you mean, forget that :/
#1292 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - When does that error pop up?
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#1295 [10:30] <Vivek> when i click ok after have disk
#1296 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> After selecting igdlh.inf ?
#1297 [10:30] <Vivek> yeah
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#1299 [10:30] <Vivek> is it x64 based?
#1300 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> You know what, I screwed up, it's the 32-bit one I gave you
#1301 [10:31] <Vivek> lol
#1302 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> You want this: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20038/a08/Win7Vista_64_15221.zip
#1303 [10:31] <Vivek> when it searches for drivers it finds a VGA and HD driver, could i try the VGA or wouldd it not make a difference
#1304 [10:31] <Vivek> ill try that now
#1305 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Getting very irked at your Toshiba C660 laptop.
#1306 [10:32] <pwnus> pop quiz miners. does the new 1.6.6 update require a server update as well as a client update?
#1307 [10:32] * GreyVulpine shakes fist
#1307 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1308 [10:32] <Vivek> lol, im going to give it back for repairs in the summer
#1309 [10:32] <Vivek> holidays
#1310 [10:32] <pwnus> GreyVulpine: was that in response to me?
#1311 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> pwnus - yes
#1312 [10:32] <pwnus> GreyVulpine:
#1313 [10:33] <pwnus> GreyVulpine: thank you! im off to update my server
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#1320 [10:38] <Awesomeness> Holy crap, I'm sick. :/
#1321 [10:39] * Vivek rubs Awesomeness on the back
#1321 [10:39] <Vivek> ok, my screen just reset itself
#1322 [10:39] <Vivek> (the update installed)
#1323 [10:39] * GreyVulpine gasps
#1323 [10:40] <Vivek> it worked ! :O
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#1325 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> You're joking
#1326 [10:40] <Vivek> ill have to restart it and see if it lets minecraft run
#1327 [10:40] <Vivek> no, the driver definitely installed :D
#1328 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Well, reboot!
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#1330 [10:41] <Vivek> i guess all your efforts finally paid off :D, ill reboot now fingers crossed and lucky chinese charm in hand ;)
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#1339 [10:47] <nick> hello i need help my minecraft keeps randomly crashing!?
#1340 [10:47] <Guest15794> hello?
#1341 [10:48] <Guest15794> my minecraft keeps randomly crashing!!
#1342 [10:48] <Vivek> um i get the: could not find main class: net.minecraft.launcherframe.program will exit message
#1343 [10:48] <Vivek> i think restarting again might help
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#1346 [10:51] <sprocket> OMFG GREYVULPINE I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1347 [10:51] <sprocket> it worked :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
#1348 [10:51] <Boreeas> -.-
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#1352 [10:53] <fuogo> hi i bought minecraft 2days ago and it still hasn't reached me
#1353 [10:53] <fuogo> what's going on?
#1354 [10:54] <Snowdog> hello
#1355 [10:54] <Snowdog> can somebody help me with LoadLibrary failed with error 998 ??
#1356 [10:54] <Boreeas> fuogo, it sometimes takes a few days
#1357 [10:55] <Boreeas> fuogo, if wait a few more days, and if it then still doens't work, write an e-mail to mojang
#1358 [10:55] <Boreeas> we saly can't help you here
#1359 [10:55] <fuogo> but what happens if it still hasn't reached in a weeks time? Can i get a refund?
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#1361 [10:57] <Boreeas> If mojang can't help you, yes
#1362 [10:57] <Boreeas> (probably)
#1363 [10:57] <Boreeas> But as I said, we can't help you here
#1364 [10:57] <fuogo> so i can get a refund then?
#1365 [10:57] <Boreeas> We do not officially represent mojang
#1366 [10:57] <fuogo> by law i can get a refund
#1367 [10:57] <Boreeas> We do not officially represent mojang
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#1370 [10:59] <fuogo> what is mojang e-mail?
#1371 [11:01] <ellisgeek> support@mojang.com
#1372 [11:02] <fuogo> thanks
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#1377 [11:12] <ellisgeek> SLOW!!!!!
#1378 [11:12] <ellisgeek> WHY!!!!!!
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#1382 [11:15] <SpartanHedgey> can someone help me?
#1383 [11:15] <SpartanHedgey> i have the pixel format not accelerated error
#1384 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> update your video drivers
#1385 [11:15] <SpartanHedgey> how
#1386 [11:15] <SpartanHedgey> whats the path to the windows update
#1387 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what video card you have?
#1388 [11:15] <SpartanHedgey> no
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#1390 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> Don't use windows update for video drivers, it'll never have the latest, or the one you want
#1391 [11:15] <SpartanHedgey> i think its intel
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#1393 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> Please give me this:
#1394 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> ??> SpartanHedgey win/dxdiag
#1395 [11:16] <VoxelHead> SpartanHedgey: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1396 [11:16] <VoxelHead> SpartanHedgey: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1397 [11:16] <SpartanHedgey> k hold on a sec
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#1399 [11:17] <mib_wrphrr> someone for help?
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#1401 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1402 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> Or just leave.
#1403 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> That's gotta be a record.
#1404 [11:18] <dandan555> Hi, when I try to log in, minecraft says after few seconds "done loading", and nothing more happends
#1405 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> ??> dandan555 win/reinst
#1406 [11:19] <VoxelHead> dandan555: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1407 [11:19] <VoxelHead> dandan555: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1408 [11:19] <dandan555> thanks
#1409 [11:19] <mr_sticky> Lost resources twice. Yesterday I was moving my chest and lost all resources. Today I was breaking obsidian when lava rushed in on me and I died; I lost everything when that happened. I canceled the game without saving but apparently, it saved automatically, so I can't go back to an older version to reclaim my resources. ????
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#1412 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - Nope
#1413 [11:20] <mr_sticky> what does "Nope" mean?
#1414 [11:21] <progme> no
#1415 [11:21] <Jovial> it means "no."
#1416 [11:21] <Jovial> lol
#1417 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> No, you cannot go back to an older version, minecraft saves automatically.
#1418 [11:21] <SpartanHedgey> Voxelhead heres the link
#1419 [11:21] <SpartanHedgey> http://pastebin.com/1LWHSHvM
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#1421 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> SpartanHedgey - I'm sorry, but that computer looks to be way too old to handle minecraft
#1422 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> It's got barely a half gig of RAM on it, and what looks to be absolutely no video drivers at all installed.
#1423 [11:22] <commander> hallo is one of the supporter Here
#1424 [11:22] <SpartanHedgey> but i was playing yesterday, then i had to rebuild it because i got some viruses and now its not working
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#1426 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> SpartanHedgey - You may want to check out your computer manufacturer's website then, to grab video drivers for it.
#1427 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> There doesn't seem to be any installed currently
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#1429 [11:23] <mr_sticky> I am on "Peaceful" mode. Can Minecraft put my resources back into my account. I had two 64's of iron. Two beds. Picks. 64 bars of iron. 64 wood. 30 wood. 61 coal. 120 torches. Three 64s and a 27 of bedrock.
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#1431 [11:23] <zucchini> hey guys, is there any set way to solve the black screen?
#1432 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - Try a program called "Invedit"
#1433 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> It's a third party inventory editor you can use
#1434 [11:24] <zucchini> ?
#1435 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't directed at you zucchini
#1436 [11:24] <SpartanHedgey> okay well thanks for the help anyway guys
#1437 [11:24] <zucchini> so guys.. black screen
#1438 [11:24] <zucchini> any solutions?
#1439 [11:25] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :zucchini: can you play in browser?
#1440 [11:25] <zucchini> uhhh...
#1441 [11:25] <zucchini> one sec
#1442 [11:25] <montezuma> hey guys , i have a question whhen i want to upgrate minecraft 1.5.01 to 1.6.5 download it and then black screem :/ what can i do?
#1443 [11:25] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :montezuma: can you try playing in browser too?
#1444 [11:25] <mr_sticky> What is Invedit?
#1445 [11:26] <montezuma> yes than it says minecraft is crahing
#1446 [11:26] <montezuma> crashing
#1447 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> Invedit is a third party inventory editor for minecraft
#1448 [11:26] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :montezuma: does it give you an error report?
#1449 [11:26] <montezuma> yes
#1450 [11:26] <montezuma> but i cant copy it
#1451 [11:26] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :You can't
#1452 [11:26] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Okay
#1453 [11:26] <montezuma> yes
#1454 [11:27] <Jovial> screenshot?
#1455 [11:27] <zucchini> i get a blank white screen in browser
#1456 [11:27] <zucchini> it was black
#1457 [11:27] <montezuma> but i write an email to supportQmojang.com and i tell them my problem now they say i have to go to this forum and ask you guys
#1458 [11:28] <zucchini> lukegb, i cant run it in browser
#1459 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - Was it working before the patch?
#1460 [11:28] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :zucchini: black screen, or error report?
#1461 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - What operating system are you on?
#1462 [11:28] <montezuma> yes it was working
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#1464 [11:28] <zucchini> black screen
#1465 [11:29] <zucchini> i get a big white blank screen now
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#1467 [11:29] <montezuma> it was working on version 1.5.01 the version i buy it!
#1468 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> ??> montezuma win/reinst
#1469 [11:29] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1470 [11:29] <mr_sticky> Will Invedit allow me to add to my inventory or just make changes to what I already have?
#1471 [11:29] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1473 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - It'll allow you to add whatever you want to your inventory
#1474 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> How you choose to use it, is up to you
#1475 [11:30] <zucchini> :/
#1476 [11:30] <zucchini> i just wanna play mc lol
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#1479 [11:33] <krebbit> How do I update my video card drivers?
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#1481 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> krebbit - Depends on what video card you have
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#1483 [11:34] <krebbit> Don't have a clue, i just had a message saying bad video card drivers when i tried to load the game
#1484 [11:34] <montezuma> lukegb: thanks buddy it worked
#1485 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> krebbit - What operating system are you on?
#1486 [11:35] <krebbit> windows 7
#1487 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> Can you please give me a dxdiag, using these directions:
#1488 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> ??> krebbit win/dxdiag
#1489 [11:35] <VoxelHead> krebbit: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1490 [11:35] <VoxelHead> krebbit: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#1492 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I've had voxelhead take credit for solutions I give people, but now lukegb? Bah.
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#1494 [11:38] <krebbit> here's the url:http://pastebin.com/L43h3DSx
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#1496 [11:40] <krebbit> So can you help GreyVulpine?
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#1498 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> krebbit - Yeah, you'll want to use the drivers found here: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19940/a08/Win7Vista_64_151716.zip
#1499 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> er wait
#1500 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> That's the zip, let me find the .exe
#1501 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> krebbit - http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19939/a08/Win7Vista_64_151716.exe
#1502 [11:41] <SGTCB> i keep gettting an error saying java runtime envirment does not exist or the file is corrupt help?
#1503 [11:41] <krebbit> Thanks man, i'll come back on if it doesn't work :)
#1504 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> SGTCB - Completely uninstall and reinstall java
#1505 [11:42] <SGTCB> thx i try tht
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#1507 [11:43] <[TNT]> Grey, do You use MCNostalgia?
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#1509 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1510 [11:44] <[TNT]> Do You know what's MCNostalgia?
#1511 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#1512 [11:45] <[TNT]> Ok.
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#1514 [11:46] <PlanetNiles> hello everyone
#1515 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1516 [11:46] <mr_sticky> Worked. Thanks! Saved hours of work I'd already done.
#1517 [11:46] <PlanetNiles> I'm still having my weird "minecraft won't install" thing
#1518 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> PlanetNiles - Can you elaborate?
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#1520 [11:47] <PlanetNiles> I can play MC in a browser but not install it on my PC
#1521 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try to use the downloaded client?
#1522 [11:48] <PlanetNiles> nonthing
#1523 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> Nothing?
#1524 [11:48] <PlanetNiles> I just get an error tone and nothing happens
#1525 [11:49] <PlanetNiles> I have Java up to date and almost all my drivers are up to date
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#1528 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> Okay, how much RAM do you have on the system?
#1529 [11:50] <PlanetNiles> 2 gigs
#1530 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried executing the minecraft.jar file through command line, or a batch file?
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#1532 [11:51] <PlanetNiles> no
#1533 [11:52] <PlanetNiles> I have no idea how to do that
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#1535 [11:52] <Vivek> um, now it has started working but it keeps crashing :(
#1536 [11:53] <Vivek> http://mibpaste.com/NiW2ra and i got this
#1537 [11:53] <Kealper> Vivek: you've tried reinstalling your graphics drivers, right?
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#1539 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Good god has he tried reinstalling video drivers..
#1540 [11:54] <Vivek> lol
#1541 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> You're joking, it's crashing still?
#1542 [11:54] <Vivek> kealper, greyvulpine has actually got the game to start
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#1544 [11:55] <Vivek> no, it opens for the first time ever, thats an improvement but it keeps freezing
#1545 [11:55] <Kealper> ugh....stupid twitter bots
#1546 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> PlanetNiles - http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#1547 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Try those instructions
#1548 [11:56] <SGTCB> still says system cannot verify path greyvulpine
#1549 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> SGTCB - Did you completely wipe java from your system before installing java?
#1550 [11:57] <SGTCB> Yessir
#1551 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, Did you use the correct installer for java, depending on whether you have a 32 or 64bit OS?
#1552 [11:58] <SGTCB> I have windows vista so im pretty sure i have 64 bit
#1553 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> SGTCB - Try removing java again, and using the 64 bit installer from:
#1554 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#1555 [11:59] <SGTCB> alrighty then i try it
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#1558 [11:59] <Kealper> my parents' computer has a 32 bit vista install....
#1559 [11:59] <Kealper> just sayin'
#1560 [12:00] * GreyVulpine goes back to rereading Vivek's error.
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#1561 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> This was Vivek's original error log: http://mibpaste.com/4KENTB
#1562 [12:00] <Kealper> yeah, the ati stuff on an intel thing?
#1563 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, yeah
#1564 [12:00] * Kealper remembers that one
#1564 [12:01] <Vivek> thought so
#1565 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> Finally forced intel's drivers to install on it.
#1566 [12:01] <Vivek> ahhh so that was the problem
#1567 [12:01] <mib_v645em> minecraft isn't working. it simply does the loading sybol for about 3 secs then nothing happens
#1568 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Gah, I don't want to have to look for older drivers if the latest one didn't work.
#1569 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Did minecraft work at all once you updated vivek?
#1570 [12:02] <Vivek> now it gets to simulating world for a bit, freezes for a few seconds and crashes
#1571 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> How about when you try to generate an entirely new world?
#1572 [12:03] <Vivek> before, it never worked. now it worked, so this is my first time playing
#1573 [12:03] <Vivek> ill try that
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#1575 [12:04] <PlanetNiles> okay I get: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame
#1576 [12:04] <mib_v645em> i dunno wat happened to my minecraft,ive had it for at least 5 months without a problem
#1577 [12:04] <Vivek> generates the terrain the crashes at simulating world for a bit.
#1578 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> PlanetNiles - You need to have the .bat file in the same directory where you downloaded the minecraft.jar file to
#1579 [12:04] <PlanetNiles> then a long list of causes
#1580 [12:04] <PlanetNiles> ah okay
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#1582 [12:05] <PlanetNiles> I but it in the same folder as the minecraft.exe
#1583 [12:05] <PlanetNiles> *put it
#1584 [12:05] <Kealper> rawr
#1585 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> PlanetNiles - No, you need to download the minecraft.jar, and put it in the folder where you have that
#1586 [12:05] <lilybet> Is the alpha version released?
#1587 [12:05] <Kealper> he isn't launching it correctly or something
#1588 [12:05] <Vivek> lol
#1589 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> There is no more alpha version, it's beta now
#1590 [12:05] <Kealper> lilybet: "alpha"?
#1591 [12:06] <mib_v645em> can some1 plz help me?
#1592 [12:06] <lilybet> We saw the version "Aplha 1.10" on Youtube!
#1593 [12:07] <Vivek> must have been an old video
#1594 [12:07] <PlanetNiles> okay that works
#1595 [12:07] <Kealper> lilybet: yeah, that video must be like almost a year old :P
#1596 [12:07] * PlanetNiles Yays
#1596 [12:07] <xolotl> lilybet: There were many Alpha versions released, yes. The current versions are Beta, though.
#1597 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - Before I go searching through intel's site for old(er) video drivers... could you try uninstalling and reinstalling java?
#1598 [12:07] <Vivek> ok
#1599 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> I don't want to drudge through intel's crap site again for drivers if I don't have to
#1600 [12:08] <Vivek> that might help ^_^
#1601 [12:08] <Vivek> lol
#1602 [12:08] <mib_v645em> can any1 take my case?
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#1604 [12:08] <PlanetNiles> so I can shortcut to that .bat file instead of the .exe and that will work?
#1605 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> PlanetNiles - Yes
#1606 [12:08] <SGTCB> GreyVulpine, i cant uninstall java, it goes through the process but doesnt remove from the list
#1607 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> I'm betting it's because you don't have enough RAM free to launch minecraft
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#1609 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> with the .bat file, I've allocated 256 megs of RAM, instead of the normal 512
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#1611 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> A more permanent fix would be to look into upgrading the RAM on your system PlanetNiles.
#1612 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> SGTCB - I think that's why java's screwing up then.
#1613 [12:10] <minecraftfc> hi
#1614 [12:10] <Kealper> hi
#1615 [12:10] <minecraftfc> can some1 help my case?
#1616 [12:10] <lilybet> how do u play oline:s
#1617 [12:10] <Kealper> minecraftfc: that depends on what your issue is
#1618 [12:10] <minecraftfc> minecraft isn't working...
#1619 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Do you have a minecraft account that you paid for?
#1620 [12:11] <lilybet> of course
#1621 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Then download the client that's available at: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#1622 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> After that, use one of these server lists to put in the multiplayer field
#1623 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> ??> lilybet smp/servers
#1624 [12:11] <minecraftfc> i click on the minecraft application on my desktop and it has the loading sign for 3 seconds then nothing happens
#1625 [12:11] <VoxelHead> lilybet: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1626 [12:11] <VoxelHead> lilybet: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1627 [12:11] <lilybet> do some1 no no any ip :<
#1628 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Try this server to test: s.nerd.nu
#1629 [12:12] <SGTCB> What shouldi do then
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#1631 [12:12] <lilybet> fart fart fart rules
#1632 [12:12] <Kealper> minecraftfc: has it ever worked before? or has it always done this?
#1633 [12:12] <SGTCB> sry i took long to respond my keyboard died
#1634 [12:12] <Kealper> SGTCB: D:
#1635 [12:12] <minecraftfc> ive had it for roughly 5 months without a problem
#1636 [12:12] <SGTCB> lol
#1637 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> SGTCB - I'd look into why your computer can't uninstall java, perhaps try looking for a utility that will remove java for you
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#1640 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> SGTCB - Barring that, delete the java folder, and all its registry entries, and start from there
#1641 [12:13] <lilybet> sweden rules sweden rules
#1642 [12:13] <Kealper> minecraftfc: can you think of anything that has changed on your computer? (hardware, software, etc)
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#1644 [12:13] <lilybet> do some1 like ssweden
#1645 [12:13] <minecraftfc> well on the same day i plugged my mp3 in my laptop, i hadn't done tht before on this laptop
#1646 [12:14] <Vivek> reinstalling java didn't help, could restarting my pc help
#1647 [12:14] <Kealper> minecraftfc: ok, that's probably not the issue then
#1648 [12:14] <Kealper> minecraftfc: did you try installing a texture pack on your minecraft?
#1649 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - This is a minecraft help channel, please refrain from posting inane chatter. That's what #minecraft is for
#1650 [12:14] <minecraftfc> umm nope
#1651 [12:15] <Vivek> i actually managed to get playing, but it crashed and i opened it again. this happened about 10 times until it finally decided not to open at all and crash at the simulating world for a bit screen instead
#1652 [12:15] <lilybet> how do u play online plz help me thx
#1653 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - Hmm, no. I'll have to look for an older version of the video drivers..
#1654 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> lilybet - Try the server, s.nerd.nu
#1655 [12:15] <Vivek> ok
#1656 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#1657 [12:15] <Kealper> minecraftfc: hmm...what operating system do you have?
#1658 [12:15] <Vivek> how come the new one isnt helping
#1659 [12:15] <PlanetNiles> Thanks for the help everyone :)
#1660 [12:15] <minecraftfc> vista home premium
#1661 [12:16] <Kealper> ??>> minecraftfc win/reinst
#1662 [12:16] <Kealper> minecraftfc: follow what VoxelHead just told you
#1663 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - I couldn't tell you, Many computer manufacturers modify default drivers to suit their needs.
#1664 [12:17] <minecraftfc> ok ill try tht thanx!
#1665 [12:17] <Vivek> i think i might have a fix
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#1667 [12:17] <Vivek> i turned up the distance to far, ill turn it down to short and see what happen
#1668 [12:17] <Vivek> s
#1669 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Vivek - Try these drivers if that doesn't work: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19982/a08/Win7Vista_64_152113.zip
#1670 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> You remember my previous instructions, correct?
#1671 [12:18] <Vivek> hehe that worked
#1672 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> It.. did?
#1673 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Well then
#1674 [12:18] <Vivek> not the driver, the um... rendering
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#1676 [12:18] * GreyVulpine nods
#1676 [12:18] <Vivek> :D
#1677 [12:19] * GreyVulpine makes a note of that then
#1677 [12:19] <Vivek> i also changed the performance to balanced so it utilizes a bit more of my pc
#1678 [12:21] <minecraftfc> it seems i don't hav a minecraft directory...
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#1680 [12:22] <Kealper> minecraftfc: uhh....you were trying to play minecraft beta, right?
#1681 [12:22] <minecraftfc> hang on, is the directory .minecraft?
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#1683 [12:22] <minecraftfc> yes
#1684 [12:22] <Jackson413> !isdown
#1685 [12:22] <GreyBot> Jackson413: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
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#1687 [12:22] <Jackson413> uhoh
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#1689 [12:23] <Jackson413> owait nm
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#1691 [12:23] <minecraftfc> if this helps: if i try to play minecraft off my browser, that doesnt work either
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#1695 [12:29] <Kealper> minecraftfc: sorry, had to go afk for a few
#1696 [12:29] <Boreeas> nvm
#1697 [12:29] <minecraftfc> hey umm voxel heads method didn't work
#1698 [12:29] <Boreeas> wrong channel <.<
#1699 [12:30] <Boreeas> minecraftfc: did someone told him to shut up
#1700 [12:30] <Kealper> minecraftfc: what did it do when you tried to do "%appdata%\.minecraft:?
#1701 [12:30] <Kealper> "*
#1702 [12:30] <minecraftfc> it came onto roaming
#1703 [12:30] <Kealper> Boreeas: that only turns off bMotion, not the FAQ stuff
#1704 [12:30] <Boreeas> I see
#1705 [12:31] <Kealper> minecraftfc: and you were unable to find a .minecraft folder?
#1706 [12:31] <minecraftfc> no i found it-eventually
#1707 [12:31] <Kealper> (note the . in there)
#1708 [12:31] <Kealper> ok, do you have it open?
#1709 [12:31] <minecraftfc> then i clicked on it and deleted everything except for saves
#1710 [12:31] <minecraftfc> yes i do
#1711 [12:32] <Kealper> you deleted the texturepacks folder, too>
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#1713 [12:32] <Kealper> ?*
#1714 [12:32] <minecraftfc> yes]
#1715 [12:32] <Kealper> hmm...and it still didn't work?
#1716 [12:32] <minecraftfc> yes
#1717 [12:33] <Kealper> what exactly happens when you try to start it? does it let you log in?
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#1719 [12:33] <minecraftfc> no, it literally just does the loading sign for about 3 secs and then just stays in the computers current state
#1720 [12:33] <Kealper> hmm....
#1721 [12:34] <minecraftfc> there is no login screen watsover
#1722 [12:34] <Kealper> go to Programs and Features in the control panel and uninstall Java completely
#1723 [12:34] <Kealper> after that, tell me so i can tell you how to install Java again
#1724 [12:37] <minecraftfc> hmmm ive got java updates, it that good
#1725 [12:37] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#1726 [12:37] <Kealper> uninstall anything that says Java
#1727 [12:37] <minecraftfc> OK
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#1732 [12:39] <minecraftfc> K deleted java
#1733 [12:39] <mib_hvz7by> OMGBI
#1734 [12:39] <Kealper> minecraftfc: http://java.com
#1735 [12:39] <mib_hvz7by> nick username
#1736 [12:40] <VoxelHead> Where'd my moose go?
#1737 [12:41] <minecraftfc> do i install it normaly?
#1738 [12:41] <Kealper> ??> Jambii dontpm
#1739 [12:41] <Kealper> gah
#1740 [12:41] <Kealper> Jambii: talk in here, don't PM me
#1741 [12:41] <Jambii> SOMEBODY HELP!!!
#1742 [12:41] <Kealper> minecraftfc: yes
#1743 [12:41] <Jambii> lol
#1744 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Jambii - With?
#1745 [12:42] <Jambii> i cant play the game it keeps saying it crashed
#1746 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you an error report? If it does, please copy it and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#1747 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL
#1748 [12:42] <Jambii> i cant copy and paste it
#1749 [12:42] <Jambii> i cant even touch the message or scroll down
#1750 [12:43] <minecraftfc> kk it's installed
#1751 [12:43] <Kealper> minecraftfc: ok, give it a shot again
#1752 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Then, Jambii, try uninstalling and reinstalling java.
#1753 [12:43] <minecraftfc> OK
#1754 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, look into updating your video drivers.
#1755 [12:44] <minecraftfc> works!
#1756 [12:44] <minecraftfc> thanx u guys
#1757 [12:44] <Kealper> minecraftfc: np :P
#1758 [12:44] <Jambii> same thing it just says Mine Craft has Crashed! and then all these messages
#1759 [12:44] <Jambii> k
#1760 [12:45] <Jambii> it was working yesterday but when I installed a new texture pack it stopped
#1761 [12:45] <Kealper> why did i just know that
#1762 [12:45] <Kealper> i literally was just typing to ask him
#1763 [12:45] <Kealper> Jambii: go in to %appdata%\.minecraft and delete the texturepacks folder
#1764 [12:47] <Jambii> IT WORKS!!!!!
#1765 [12:47] <Jambii> how do i install a texture pack tho
#1766 [12:47] <Jambii> i want one
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#1769 [12:52] <rpmmatt> anyone here who can me with my game?
#1770 [12:52] <VoxelHead> Nada.
#1771 [12:52] <Boreeas> ??> rpmmatt ask
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#1773 [12:52] <VoxelHead> rpmmatt: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1774 [12:52] <VoxelHead> rpmmatt: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1775 [12:54] <rpmmatt> When ever I connect to a server I suffer massive lag, blocks I have dug just reappear or move at random, and if i move more than a few blocks I lag back to where I started, it is NOT my connection as other games do not suffer
#1776 [12:54] <rpmmatt> it is not the server either
#1777 [12:54] <rpmmatt> have tried to reinstall several times, including java, and even done a system restore
#1778 [12:55] <Jambii> so i cant install a texture pack?]
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#1780 [12:55] <ellisgeek> rpmmatt: are you running this server on the same computer you are playing on
#1781 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> Jambii - You can, just watch out for HD packs, they need an HD patcher to work.
#1782 [12:55] <rpmmatt> happens on multiple servers
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#1784 [12:55] <fenster> need help
#1785 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, just place the normal texture pack .zip files in the texturepacks folder
#1786 [12:55] <Jambii> does an HD patcher cost money
#1787 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> No
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#1789 [12:55] <Jambii> do u guys work for MOjanng
#1790 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> We do not.
#1791 [12:56] <ellisgeek> nope
#1792 [12:56] <Jambii> So u just do this to help ppl
#1793 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> We're community-run support.
#1794 [12:56] <ellisgeek> mhm
#1795 [12:56] <Jambii> thats sweet
#1796 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> We're not in any way affiliated with Mojang, we do not get paid by them
#1797 [12:56] <mib_9fmri3> please can you help me ? (i'm french)
#1798 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> They do send work our way though.
#1799 [12:56] <Jambii> where can i download an HD pacther
#1800 [12:57] <ellisgeek> ??> mib_9fmri3 ask
#1801 [12:57] <VoxelHead> mib_9fmri3: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1802 [12:57] <VoxelHead> mib_9fmri3: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1803 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Jambii - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-529-item-fixes166-compatible-mcpatcher-hd-fix-210-01/
#1804 [12:57] <mib_9fmri3> i ve got problem with the begin
#1805 [12:57] <mib_9fmri3> i can start minecrat
#1806 [12:57] <fenster> EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS i need help i want to play classic minecraft singleplayer it loads for a bit then comes up with a black screen or something like this (numbers and letters) pixels to accelerated
#1807 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Update your video drivers
#1808 [12:58] <fenster> how?
#1809 [12:58] <fenster> im on xp btw
#1810 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Happen to know what video card you have?
#1811 [12:58] <fenster> no
#1812 [12:58] <mib_9fmri3> when i i've lunch mine craft a window appear and say mine craft has crashed
#1813 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> fenster - please give us this:
#1814 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> ??> fenster win/dxdiag
#1815 [12:58] <VoxelHead> fenster: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1816 [12:58] <VoxelHead> fenster: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1817 [12:59] <ellisgeek> ??> mib_9fmri3 win/dxdiag
#1818 [12:59] <VoxelHead> mib_9fmri3: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1819 [12:59] <VoxelHead> mib_9fmri3: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1820 [12:59] <kermie> hello all, I just purchased the the beta, now when I go to load the game I get a message that minecraft has crashed, and the screen is froze, whats going on?
#1821 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> kermie - Do you get any sort of error report?
#1822 [12:59] <ellisgeek> prolly your drivers
#1823 [12:59] <fenster> how do i see what video card i have???? and how do i update it?????????
#1824 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Please give us your dxdiag, follow VoxelHead's instructions
#1825 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Your dxdiag contains the info we need to determine what video card you have
#1826 [13:00] <kermie> yes, but i cant read it because it freezes and I can't scroll
#1827 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> kermie - Has minecraft worked before?
#1828 [13:00] <rpmmatt> so, no one has any suggestions?
#1829 [13:00] <ellisgeek> no sorry
#1830 [13:00] <kermie> the free version worked just fine
#1831 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> kermie - Has beta worked before
#1832 [13:01] <fenster> what are Win+Rkeys??
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#1834 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> rpmmatt - Are you sure it isn't spawn protection?
#1835 [13:01] <rpmmatt> wow, right, who di i contact for a refund then? as now i cant play the game I have paid for
#1836 [13:01] <mib_ctis1c> hello
#1837 [13:01] <mib_9fmri3> just the window say "minecraft has crach" what can i do ?
#1838 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Your windows key, is right between ctrl and alt.
#1839 [13:01] <kermie> just now purchased it, so it is my first time trying
#1840 [13:01] <fenster> kk thanks
#1841 [13:01] <ellisgeek> ??> rpmmatt win/key
#1842 [13:01] <VoxelHead> rpmmatt: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1843 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> rpmmatt - Do all blocks in multiplayer not break? Have you moved away from a server's spawn and tried?
#1844 [13:02] <mib_ctis1c> I cannot play mulltiplayer
#1845 [13:02] <rpmmatt> its not that
#1846 [13:02] <rpmmatt> its not a server issue as others are on teh server fine
#1847 [13:02] <rpmmatt> it happens on ANY server
#1848 [13:02] <fenster> i have xp so i have no box to type "dxdiag"
#1849 [13:02] <rpmmatt> have reinstalled
#1850 [13:02] <rpmmatt> have updated java
#1851 [13:03] <mib_ctis1c> I cannot connect to multiplayer servers
#1852 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Go to your start menu, go to Run, then type dxdiag in the run command
#1853 [13:03] <rpmmatt> drivers all up to date
#1854 [13:03] <ellisgeek> ??> mib_ctis1c ask
#1855 [13:03] <VoxelHead> mib_ctis1c: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1856 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> rpmmatt - Does it work in single player?
#1857 [13:03] <VoxelHead> mib_ctis1c: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1858 [13:03] <mib_ctis1c> ok
#1859 [13:03] <ellisgeek> ??> mib_ctis1c ask/howto
#1860 [13:03] <VoxelHead> mib_ctis1c: (ask/howto) Please read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before
#1861 [13:03] <VoxelHead> mib_ctis1c: (ask/howto) Yes, it's long. That's because it's packed chock-full of information, explained clearly.
#1862 [13:03] <mib_ctis1c> Well, I always get the error message : Failed to connect to server connection timed out: connect.
#1863 [13:03] <mib_ctis1c> I'm able to play the single player game
#1864 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_ctis1c - Try the MP server, s.nerd.nu
#1865 [13:04] <rpmmatt> works fine in multiplayer
#1866 [13:04] <mib_ctis1c> k
#1867 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> rpmmatt - single player you mean
#1868 [13:04] <mib_ctis1c> yes
#1869 [13:04] <rpmmatt> doh yes
#1870 [13:04] <VoxelHead> Incompetence.
#1871 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> vox, shut up
#1872 [13:04] * VoxelHead knows when it isn't wanted.
#1872 [13:04] <mib_ctis1c> no it's not connected
#1873 [13:04] <ellisgeek> mib_ctis1c means that you or the server need a better internet connection or the server is running in a shitty machine
#1874 [13:04] <mib_ctis1c> but it's on every server that I use
#1875 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_ctis1c - Then you probably have some sort of security software or firewall blocking minecraft from connecting
#1876 [13:05] <mib_ctis1c> or try to
#1877 [13:05] <mib_ctis1c> i think it is my router
#1878 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> "S.nerd.nu" is a known good server that's running
#1879 [13:05] <mib_ctis1c> it's not connecting on mine
#1880 [13:05] <rpmmatt> I can't understant why only Minecraft is affected by this problem, everything else is fine, only Minecraft multiplayer
#1881 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> rpmmatt - You're absolutely sure it's not spawn protection?
#1882 [13:05] <rpmmatt> yes!
#1883 [13:06] <rpmmatt> i am no where near spwan, and it happens on any server!
#1884 [13:06] <rpmmatt> its not just blocks
#1885 [13:06] <rpmmatt> its movement as well
#1886 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> rpmmatt - What do you mean exactly?
#1887 [13:06] <rpmmatt> if i dig a block, it disappears, then reappears, then finally goes about 30 seconds later
#1888 [13:07] <rpmmatt> same with movement, if i run for about 10 seconds, i just lag back to where i started
#1889 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like network lag
#1890 [13:07] <rpmmatt> but how can it affect only minecraft and nothing else?
#1891 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft's got some pretty high network utilization compared to other games
#1892 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> What type of connection are you on? How is your computer hooked up?
#1893 [13:08] <rpmmatt> ADSL with 8Mbps D/L and 1.5Mbps U/L, connected via ethernet cable
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#1895 [13:08] <rpmmatt> all other games are fine and lag free
#1896 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> That sounds fine to me, hmm.
#1897 [13:09] <rpmmatt> firewall is set correctly
#1898 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Got any antivirus software that's running on your computer that's perhaps adding some unneeded overhead?
#1899 [13:09] <rpmmatt> disabled everything already to test
#1900 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Is it continuously scanning..
#1901 [13:10] <mib_9fmri3> Voxelhead that finish i copy the information what in do now ?
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#1903 [13:10] <mib_ca6udw> hi
#1904 [13:10] <rpmmatt> was working fine last night, so not sure what could have changed
#1905 [13:10] <rpmmatt> have reset my router several times
#1906 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> Was going to be my next suggestion
#1907 [13:10] <Jambii> i downloaded an HD patcher but when i put test minecraft it is laggy as hell and i cant even move
#1908 [13:11] <Jambii> and all i see is dirt looking down
#1909 [13:11] <mib_9fmri3> What is the IRC chanel?
#1910 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> Some machines can't handle an HD texture pack Jambii
#1911 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> mib_9fmri3 - #minecrafthelp on irc.esper.net
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#1913 [13:11] <Agent> hi
#1914 [13:11] <Jambii> so i cant download bordercraft
#1915 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> rpmmatt - I don't know... minecraft works on your machine, so you can't request a refund.
#1916 [13:12] <Agent> minecraft doesnt work for me..
#1917 [13:12] <rpmmatt> but it doesnt work, thats the point
#1918 [13:12] <rpmmatt> its unplayable
#1919 [13:12] <Jambii> well that blows
#1920 [13:12] <Agent> i get some open gl error, wbu rpmmatt?
#1921 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> rpmmatt - Single player works, it's just your network connection which is somehow contributing to network lag
#1922 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> rpmmatt - Not the basis which you can demand a refund with
#1923 [13:13] <rpmmatt> which only affects a single application?
#1924 [13:13] <Agent> network lagg is caused by your own internet speed as in ythe company your with, (up right company lower rank company) slower speeds and higher speed
#1925 [13:13] <fenster> it wont let me paste in paste bin
#1926 [13:13] <mib_ca6udw> I have a problem with registration at the registration minecraft.net already typed tokenna 50 times and still says that it is bad it's not possible I typed wrong so many times how to deal with this problem?
#1927 [13:13] <rpmmatt> but why is it ONLY lagging minecraft???
#1928 [13:14] <rpmmatt> if it was my network, everythign would be laggy
#1929 [13:14] <Agent> nope
#1930 [13:14] <Agent> not laggy on single..
#1931 [13:14] <Agent> only minecraft?>
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#1933 [13:14] <fenster> anyone help me wont let me paste in the pastebin website
#1934 [13:14] <xolotl> Minecraft's protocol is somewhat unforgiving of network gremlins
#1935 [13:15] <mib_ca6udw> I have a problem with registration at the registration minecraft.net already typed tokenna 50 times and still says that it is bad it's not possible I typed wrong so many times how to deal with this problem?
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#1937 [13:15] <fenster> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR IT WONT LET ME PASTE ON PASTEBIN WEBSITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1938 [13:15] <Agent> if your lagging while opening Minecraft your computer cant handle it , its a pretty big java file when you run it uses about 500k memmory...., buddy calm down ^
#1939 [13:15] <Agent> mib- minecraft account were being hacked a lilttle bit ago
#1940 [13:16] <Agent> recover your account.
#1941 [13:16] <xolotl> Agent: s/500k/500M/ :)
#1942 [13:16] <xolotl> (also by default -Xmx is 1G, though it may not allocate that all at once)
#1943 [13:16] <Agent> what? xD
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#1945 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> you wanted to swap 500k for 500 megs
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#1948 [13:17] <Jambii> grey vulpine can u help me again
#1949 [13:17] <calatalee> hi can anyone help me ibought the game over paypal from a friend and everything worked fine, but now if i want to play online, it says that i´m not a premium user and that i should buy the game :(
#1950 [13:17] <Agent> what do you need help with?
#1951 [13:17] * xolotl should write a Minecraft clone in z-code which would fit in 500k
#1951 [13:17] <VoxelHead> Bye Smarag.
#1952 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> calatalee - We don't support people who buy minecraft from third-party sources
#1953 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> There's been more than one case of people getting scammed.
#1954 [13:17] <Agent> D E A D^
#1955 [13:17] <fenster> V
#1956 [13:18] <calatalee> is there anything i can do?
#1957 [13:18] <xolotl> You are facing an open plain. Exits are North, South, East, and West
#1958 [13:18] <xolotl> > place dirt block
#1959 [13:18] <fenster> GreyVulpine i need your help
#1960 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> The only legitimate source of buying minecraft, is from minecraf.tnet
#1961 [13:18] <xolotl> Place it where?
#1962 [13:18] <xolotl> > in front of me
#1963 [13:18] <Jambii> i downloaded an HD patcher but when i test my texture pack it is laggy as hell
#1964 [13:18] <xolotl> Done!
#1965 [13:18] <mib_9fmri3> Please after i've copy the information and copy it on pastebin what i do ?
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#1967 [13:18] <Agent> nope.. Contact the person who sold you it, or send a refund via paypal.
#1968 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Er, minecraft.net
#1969 [13:18] <calatalee> ok, i try
#1970 [13:18] <Agent> k k lol
#1971 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> ??> Jambii win/reinst
#1972 [13:19] <VoxelHead> Jambii: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1973 [13:19] <VoxelHead> Jambii: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1975 [13:19] <fenster> GreyVulpine it wont let me paste the dxdiag file on Paste bin
#1976 [13:19] <Jambii> thats gunna b a bitch to do lol
#1977 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Why won't it?
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#1979 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Did you open up the dxdiag text file and copy all of it
#1980 [13:20] <rpmmatt> right, if no one can help, i am off to play a game without bullshit netcoding
#1981 [13:20] <mib_9fmri3> Voxelhead hi sorry, I do what you say to me. but i don't understand "Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel." Can you explian more please?
#1982 [13:21] <VoxelHead> Well you asked the right guy, i'm a whale biologist.
#1983 [13:21] <Agent> rpm whats your promlem?
#1984 [13:21] <Agent> problem*
#1985 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_9fmri3 - Did you save the dxdiag file to your desktop?
#1986 [13:21] <fenster> http://pastebin.com/5q6sg3tn heres the link i was sent to can you help me now?
#1987 [13:21] <mib_9fmri3> yes but i don't what i do after that
#1988 [13:21] <Jambii> bi guys thnk alot!!
#1989 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_9fmri3 - Did you open up the dxdiag text file, copy all the contents.
#1990 [13:22] <mib_9fmri3> yes
#1991 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_9fmri3 - After you do that, go to http://www.pastebin.com
#1992 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Paste it in the text box, and press submit
#1993 [13:22] <mib_9fmri3> yes and now what i do ?
#1994 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the link at the top of your browser
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#1997 [13:23] <fenster> http://pastebin.com/5q6sg3tn heres the link GreyVulpine please help
#1998 [13:23] <[TNT]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5rAeUaij7Q They are already making good Minecraft YTPMV's
#1999 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> One moment fenster
#2000 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Give me a minute to look up what you need
#2001 [13:23] <fenster> thank you
#2002 [13:24] <vasut> Hello, when I try to run minecraft this error pops up: org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#2003 [13:24] <mib_9fmri3> Here the link : http://pastebin.com/Rsxbn4GH
#2004 [13:24] <fenster> finally i get some help ive been looking at forums all day thank you very much
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#2006 [13:25] <fenster> mib_9fmri3 you'll have to wait a moment i gave GreyVulpine my link and he/she is looking into it
#2007 [13:25] <vasut> What can I do with it?
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#2009 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Could you try doing this: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#2010 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> vasut - You need to update your video drivers
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#2012 [13:27] <mib_rwo6t9> Hi,I updated my video drivers but it still dont run
#2013 [13:27] <mib_9fmri3> GreyVulpine Don't forget mine !! =)
#2014 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> mib_9fmri3 - Yeah, just getting to you, you need these drivers
#2015 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-275.33-whql-driver.html
#2016 [13:28] <Docmcninja> I cannot connect to multiplayer.
#2017 [13:28] <mib_rwo6t9> okay, thanks
#2018 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Docmcninja - Connect to this server using your client: s.nerd.nu
#2019 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_rwo6t9 - How did you update?
#2020 [13:28] <Docmcninja> I'm actually not using the client
#2021 [13:28] <Docmcninja> I'm in the browser.
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#2023 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Classic?
#2024 [13:29] <Docmcninja> No, beta.
#2025 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Then you can use: s.nerd.nu in the multiplayer field
#2026 [13:29] <Docmcninja> i'm trying to now
#2027 [13:29] <mib_9fmri3> GreyVulpine thank i try and i telle if it's good
#2028 [13:29] <Docmcninja> It's staying on connecting to server
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#2030 [13:29] <Docmcninja> but if past experience is anything to go on, it'll just time out
#2031 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> s.nerd.nu is a known good server
#2032 [13:30] <Docmcninja> It's not connecting...
#2033 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> If you can't connect to it, it's because something on your end is blocking java from connecting
#2034 [13:30] <Docmcninja> what would be blocking java, and how can I stop it from doing so?
#2035 [13:30] <mib_ma15hf> hello, i have my own minecraft server with bukking, im having trouble with iconomy, i want to have 10 as a income every 10 minute, but all i can get is 1% of what you have every 10 min, and that can either ruin someone or make someone Very rich when they get alot of money..
#2036 [13:30] <mib_ma15hf> Anyone know how to configure this?
#2037 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Docmcninja - Got any security software running on your machine?
#2038 [13:31] <Docmcninja> I can't use client, my computer doesn't have the right System requirements
#2039 [13:31] <Docmcninja> AVG
#2040 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_ma15hf - We don't support bukkit here, try #bukkit
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#2042 [13:31] <mib_rwo6t9> well, i asked my brother if he could help me, he knows a lot about computers. i think he did it the right way.. but how he did it .. i dont know
#2043 [13:31] <mib_ma15hf> thank you
#2044 [13:32] <Docmcninja> could AVG be blocking?
#2045 [13:32] <Docmcninja> yeah, the error message just came up
#2046 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Certainly possible
#2047 [13:32] <Docmcninja> Failed to connect to server, Connection timed out:connect
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#2049 [13:32] <tmaguire> does anyone know what to do if Minecraft isn't updating?
#2050 [13:33] <fenster> how do i update video drivers i dont want to download minecraft i just want to play classic to see if i like it.
#2051 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Your computer, by the looks of it, would be too old to run minecraft beta, even if you could run classic
#2052 [13:34] <fenster> i hate my computer its so slow and can barely do anything
#2053 [13:34] <tmaguire> can someone please help me
#2054 [13:34] <mib_ma15hf> i got a bukkit server with the plugin iConomy, im having trouble configuring the interest, i want it to be 10 Gold Coins every 10 minute, but right now it is 1% of what you have every 10 min, and that can either ruin someone if they have very little money, or make someone very rich if they have enough money!
#2055 [13:34] <mib_ma15hf> anyone know how to configure this?
#2056 [13:34] <fenster> so theres no way of playing minecraft then????
#2057 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_ma15hf - Again, this isn't the channel to get help with that
#2058 [13:34] <mib_ma15hf> well
#2059 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Not without upgrading your computer
#2060 [13:35] <mib_ma15hf> no one answered on bukkit so
#2061 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_ma15hf - We don't do bukkit here
#2062 [13:35] <mib_ma15hf> well anyone who know how to do it then?
#2063 [13:35] <oldtopmanserver> You could try #bukkit
#2064 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> The people at #bukkit do
#2065 [13:35] <Docmcninja> anyway
#2066 [13:35] <mib_ma15hf> i where there just 2 sec ago and no one answered
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#2068 [13:35] <Docmcninja> so AVG is blocking java?
#2069 [13:36] <fenster> what do you mean by upgrading my computer do you mean getting a new one or getting vista,7
#2070 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> It's certainly possible, if you have the avg suite
#2071 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Getting a new one would work.
#2072 [13:36] <Docmcninja> no it's the free edition
#2073 [13:36] <fenster> great
#2074 [13:36] <tmaguire> can i please have someone help me
#2075 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> tmaguire - With?
#2076 [13:36] <tmaguire> my Minecraft won't update
#2077 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Docmcninja - Hmm, then no, the free version of avg's just the AV
#2078 [13:36] <tmaguire> its in 1.5_01 right now
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#2080 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> ??> tmaguire win/reinst
#2081 [13:37] <VoxelHead> tmaguire: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2082 [13:37] <VoxelHead> tmaguire: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2083 [13:37] <Jonnynorway> Hello?
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#2085 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Hi
#2086 [13:37] <Jonnynorway> I need help
#2087 [13:37] <tmaguire> thanks
#2088 [13:37] <fenster> i have AVG too
#2089 [13:37] <DocMcninja> sorry i accidentally shut down
#2090 [13:37] <DocMcninja> I have AVG free edition
#2091 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Docmcninja - Hmm, then no, the free version of avg's just the AV, it wouldn't affect minecraft
#2092 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> ??> Jonnynorway ask
#2093 [13:38] <DocMcninja> Would it be windows firewall?
#2094 [13:38] <VoxelHead> Jonnynorway: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2095 [13:38] <VoxelHead> Jonnynorway: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2096 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> DocMcninja - No, it would not
#2097 [13:38] <DocMcninja> so what is it? the router?
#2098 [13:38] <tmaguire> Thanks it worked! :)
#2099 [13:38] <Jonnynorway> I buyed minecraft but when i Login it says i have not bought premium when i did!, and i have tried most of the things i need help with on the Supportpage but didnt help me, Please help!
#2100 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> DocMcninja - Are you running any sort of firewall on your computer at all, besides windows firewall
#2101 [13:39] <DocMcninja> I don't think so
#2102 [13:39] <DocMcninja> hang on, I'll check
#2103 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Jonnynorway - When did you buy it?
#2104 [13:39] <Jonnynorway> Earlier today
#2105 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
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#2107 [13:40] <Jonnynorway> But my friend says he was able to play it straight away
#2108 [13:40] <DocMcninja> No
#2109 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Some people's accounts do get credited right away
#2110 [13:40] <DocMcninja> I have no other firewalls
#2111 [13:40] <Jonnynorway> Ok Thanks!
#2112 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Some have been known to take several hours
#2113 [13:41] <DocMcninja> So is it the router?
#2114 [13:41] <fenster> minecraft seems to have not amazing graphics and is a basic but really fun game why cant my computer use minecraft i have a Dell vostro 1000 laptop
#2115 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> DocMcninja - I do not know
#2116 [13:41] <DocMcninja> That seems to be the only other thing
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#2120 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Because even with its retro graphics, it still taxes a system as much as most modern games
#2121 [13:42] <DocMcninja> It has to be the router
#2122 [13:42] <DocMcninja> Is there anything i can do?
#2123 [13:42] <DocMcninja> I have a Billion bipac 7402vgp
#2124 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> DocMcninja - Does your router have any sort of firewall that may block certain programs on it?
#2125 [13:42] <fenster> i wish i could get minecraft for my ps3
#2126 [13:43] <DocMcninja> I actually have no idea...
#2127 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> I haven't heard of that particular brand at all
#2128 [13:43] <DocMcninja> It's what it says on the base label
#2129 [13:44] <DocMcninja> How can I find out what to do?
#2130 [13:44] <fenster> are there any other games where you build stuff and fight monsters????
#2131 [13:44] <DocMcninja> I mean, I've trawled the internet and I can't find a solution
#2132 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> DocMcninja - Got another computer you can try this on?
#2133 [13:44] <DocMcninja> A laptop
#2134 [13:45] <DocMcninja> however, it runs Ubuntu
#2135 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> minecraft is available on *nix
#2136 [13:45] <DocMcninja> hmmm
#2137 [13:45] <fenster> Are there any other games where you build stuff and fight monsters????
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#2139 [13:45] <DocMcninja> I can't run it on the browser either, because it doesn't have the newest java
#2140 [13:45] <DocMcninja> I'll try that
#2141 [13:45] <fenster> then get the newest java
#2142 [13:46] <fenster> GreyVulpine are there any other games where u build stuff and fight monsters??
#2143 [13:46] <DocMcninja> Yeah, it's not so simple on a linux machine
#2144 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Tons
#2145 [13:47] <fenster> Could you name some??
#2146 [13:47] <mrexplorer57> hi, i got a problem. A friend of mine bought me the game and everything worked fine. But today i wanted to log in and it said that i´m not a premium user. Heeeeeeeeeeelp
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#2148 [13:47] <DocMcninja> you need to buy the game
#2149 [13:47] <mib_v85d62> hay im trying to download the update but it keeps gettin stuck on at 14% lwjgl.jar any advice?
#2150 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> mrexplorer57 - Make sure you're logging in with the right account
#2151 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_v85d62 - Check your security/firewall, make sure java is allowed through
#2152 [13:48] <fenster> mrexplorer it takes and while to become a premium, give it time
#2153 [13:48] <mrexplorer57> i worked fine yesterday i even played online :(
#2154 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> mrexplorer57 - What is your minecraft username?
#2155 [13:48] <VoxelHead> hey
#2156 [13:48] <mrexplorer57> mrexplorer57 tha same as now
#2157 [13:49] <xolotl> mrexplorer57: Had your friend given you a gift code?
#2158 [13:49] <fenster> GreyVulpine could you name the next closest game to minecraft
#2159 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> !paid mrexplorer57
#2160 [13:49] <mrexplorer57> yes he has
#2161 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> mrexplorer57 - Doesn't look like your friend bought you an account
#2162 [13:49] <xolotl> mrexplorer57: Could be some weird glitch @ Mojang, then. I'd have your friend contact payment@mojang.com to see what's up
#2163 [13:49] <mrexplorer57> he has
#2164 [13:49] <mrexplorer57> i played on it
#2165 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Terraria on Steam, or Ace of spades on PC, or what's that minecraft ripoff on xboxlive..
#2166 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> fortresscraft
#2167 [13:50] <mrexplorer57> it worked i even changed my skin :8
#2168 [13:50] <fenster> whats the next best game thats like minecraft?
#2169 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> mrexplorer57 - Make absolutely sure this is the account your friend bought you an account under
#2170 [13:50] <mib_v85d62> re: lwjgl.jar i turned off my firewall and it has not helped any other advice
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#2172 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> mrexplorer57 - If you're not sure, use the password recovery tool at minecraft.net
#2173 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> It'll give you your username associated with an email address you give it
#2174 [13:52] <mrexplorer57> i am 100% sure but i´ll try
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#2177 [13:55] <DocMcninja> I can't update the java on my laptop, so i can't play minecraft there
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#2179 [13:55] <DocMcninja> and for some reason I can't download the client onto it
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#2181 [13:56] <dr_bibble> how do you play minecraft after you buy it and download it?
#2182 [13:56] <stevy> i need help with texture pac can anyone help
#2183 [13:56] <mrexplorer57> i reseted the password and created a new one but i doesn´t work either :(
#2184 [13:57] <stevy> i just downloaded a new text pak nd i cnt open minecraft. after loading the stuff it goes to a blank black screen.
#2185 [13:58] <stevy> can anyone help?!?!?!?!?!
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#2187 [13:58] <dr_bibble> how do you play minecraft after you download it and buy it and exit and wana play again?
#2188 [13:58] <DocMcninja> So, how can I fix my problem with the router?
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#2190 [13:58] <DocMcninja> How can I configure it, or something?
#2191 [13:58] <frogmella> Hi
#2192 [13:58] <frogmella> can anybody hem pe?
#2193 [13:58] <dr_bibble> thats it peace
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#2195 [13:59] <frogmella> I have a problem on minecraft
#2196 [13:59] <stevy> grats
#2197 [13:59] <ReverendD> @stevy, did you download and use the most updated HP patcher?
#2198 [13:59] <mrexplorer57> the launcher starts, i type in the password and it skips to the ho
#2199 [13:59] <stevy> .. i dnt no. no i dnt
#2200 [13:59] <mrexplorer57> mescreen
#2201 [14:00] <stevy> how do u do it rev?
#2202 [14:00] <ReverendD> @stevy, to get HD texture packs to work you have to use the most updated HD patcher. Is it an HD pack or a regular pack?
#2203 [14:00] <stevy> regular i think
#2204 [14:00] <xolotl> mrexplorer57: So you're at the home screen now?
#2205 [14:01] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go T_T.
#2206 [14:01] <ReverendD> @stevy, if you downloaded a 16x16 then you dont need the HP patcher. Only if the pack you d/l was a 62x or higher.
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#2208 [14:01] <ReverendD> @stevy, if everything is black though the pack may be outdate. which pack was it?
#2209 [14:01] <stevy> yh it was a 62 x 62
#2210 [14:02] <stevy> i cant remember
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#2212 [14:02] <xolotl> s/62/64/ ?
#2213 [14:02] <ReverendD> @stevy, if its a 64x then you need to run this - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-529-item-fixes166-compatible-mcpatcher-hd-fix-210-01/
#2214 [14:03] <mrexplorer57> no, now its telling me that i´m no premium user (i can chose if i want to play offline or try again) but it worked yesterday
#2215 [14:03] <ReverendD> d/l the version for your OS, run it and click on patch.
#2216 [14:03] <frogmella> Who can help me?
#2217 [14:03] <stevy> thank you very muchly.
#2218 [14:03] <stevy> u may have saved my marriage with minecraft
#2219 [14:03] <frogmella> Can anybody help me?
#2220 [14:03] <ReverendD> @stevy. lol
#2221 [14:04] <ReverendD> @frog, whats going on?
#2222 [14:04] <frogmella> Who can help me?
#2223 [14:04] <ReverendD> whats your problim?
#2224 [14:05] <frogmella> I need some help with my minecraft single player
#2225 [14:05] <frogmella> whe I load the map
#2226 [14:05] <stevy> the website says alot of stuff i dnt understand
#2227 [14:05] <frogmella> it is going slow on 'building'
#2228 [14:05] <frogmella> an when it is loaded after a long time... you can do nothing
#2229 [14:05] <ReverendD> @stevy, if your running windows use the first github link. that shoudl be the one you need.
#2230 [14:05] <xolotl> mrexplorer57: k, well you should probably have your friend contact payment@mojang.com to find out what happened to the gift code, etc (after checking bank accounts to make sure that the payment did actually go through)
#2231 [14:05] <ReverendD> @frog, which map? you mean when you log into the game?
#2232 [14:06] <frogmella> no, I can log in
#2233 [14:06] <stevy> thhank you!
#2234 [14:06] <frogmella> then I choose single player
#2235 [14:06] <stevy> you is major legend!
#2236 [14:06] <frogmella> and I click on my world and play
#2237 [14:06] <frogmella> when the world is loading
#2238 [14:06] <frogmella> I have that problems
#2239 [14:07] <ReverendD> @frog, and exactly what happens when you log in? it loads slow?
#2240 [14:07] <frogmella> no, nothing
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#2242 [14:07] <VoxelHead> I like them =]
#2243 [14:07] <frogmella> it runs slow when the world is loading
#2244 [14:07] <ReverendD> @frog, black screen, nothignshows up, blocks are transpanrent, you attacked by frogs?
#2245 [14:08] <ReverendD> @frog, what are you running the game on? CPU and RAM?
#2246 [14:08] <mrexplorer57> well, before today i could play and do everything,so it went through but today, that happend
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#2248 [14:08] <frogmella> mmh, I will see
#2249 [14:09] <xolotl> mrexplorer57: Yes, so you've said. My advice still stands
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#2252 [14:09] <mrexplorer57> ok, i try, thanx
#2253 [14:09] <frogmella> mmh, I don't understand you
#2254 [14:10] <Suburashi> I have a problem with minecraft when I play Survival Single Player, the game keeps displaying a message claiming I am either playing a pirated version or logged in on another computer- which is impossible as my last computer was damaged beyond repair .
#2255 [14:10] <ReverendD> @frog, is your PC old and dilapidated or is it a newer system that can run games? If it is old it may run slow.
#2256 [14:10] <stevy> ReverendD. you r the bestest operson in the world(apart from my mum.) nevertheless you r still mega awesome.
#2257 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Suburashi - If you have paid for minecraft, just ignore it
#2258 [14:10] <VoxelHead> youless neverthe
#2259 [14:10] <ReverendD> @stevy, lol thanks stevy.
#2260 [14:11] <frogmella> It is new from this year
#2261 [14:11] <Suburashi> GreyVulpine - I have and thank you
#2262 [14:11] <frogmella> and a good pc
#2263 [14:11] <dr_bibble> I keep getting black screens and I tried everything but it won't fix.......??????????
#2264 [14:11] <ReverendD> @frog, try going into video options and change graphics to fast, distance to normal, and make sure OpenGL is off.
#2265 [14:11] <ReverendD> @dr_bibble, you running a texture pack?
#2266 [14:12] <frogmella> what is open gl?
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#2268 [14:13] <ReverendD> @frog, a graphics setting to help take advantage of certain aspects of video cards.
#2269 [14:13] <mib_6adhh6> i cannot download minecraft for some reason
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#2271 [14:13] <mib_6adhh6> i tryed to download it but it didnt work
#2272 [14:13] <frogmella> no, it's still from that
#2273 [14:13] <mib_6adhh6> i have windows vista
#2274 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Define, "Didn't work"
#2275 [14:14] <xolotl> ReverendD: the "@nick" method of attribution is a bit weird in IRC. Does you client not just tab-complete if you start typing someone's nick?
#2276 [14:14] <mib_6adhh6> it said FIND or SAVE or CANCEL
#2277 [14:14] <frogmella> I created this world in the morning
#2278 [14:14] <frogmella> I played some hours (2)
#2279 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - On what operating system?
#2280 [14:14] <mib_6adhh6> sorry?
#2281 [14:14] <frogmella> and now I have this
#2282 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> windows? mac?
#2283 [14:14] <mib_6adhh6> windows
#2284 [14:14] <xolotl> (well, it wouldn't "just" do it; you'd have to hit tab yourself. :) (http://xkcd.com/541/)
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#2286 [14:15] <ReverendD> xolotl: ah, it does. havent used IRC regularing in about 10 years so... have to recall the commands and what not.
#2287 [14:15] <mib_vokyzx> hey
#2288 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - Did you get minecraft.exe from the website?
#2289 [14:15] <mib_vokyzx> i need help!
#2290 [14:15] <xolotl> ReverendD: np. :) Just a bit weird to see twitterisms in here.
#2291 [14:15] <mib_6adhh6> yeh
#2292 [14:15] <mib_vokyzx> i cant uppload the game
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#2294 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - What happens when you try to run it?
#2295 [14:15] <frogmella> Yeah, I got it from the website
#2296 [14:15] <ReverendD> xolotl: lol forgot that is used on twitter. lol dont even use twitter.
#2297 [14:15] <xolotl> ReverendD: The @nick syntax might trip up some people's notification settings too.
#2298 [14:15] <mib_6adhh6> it says FIND SAVE CANCEL
#2299 [14:15] <xolotl> Anyway, that was all offtopic. :)
#2300 [14:15] <mib_vokyzx> it says lanche faild
#2301 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - Try renaming the file, and adding .exe to the end of it
#2302 [14:16] <mib_6adhh6> should i save the file
#2303 [14:16] <mib_vokyzx> erm
#2304 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - Yes, save the file
#2305 [14:16] <mib_vokyzx> what u meam?
#2306 [14:16] <mib_vokyzx> mean
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#2308 [14:16] <ReverendD> xolotl: i think i used @ in IRC back in 94 with large active rooms. probably why i defaulted to it here too.
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#2310 [14:16] <mib_6adhh6> ohh o mean i have the file but i dont know how to launch it
#2311 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - Just double click on it
#2312 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - If it doesn't open, make sure it has the .exe extension at the end
#2313 [14:17] <frogmella> who is busy with me?
#2314 [14:17] <frogmella> I can't follow at the moment :D
#2315 [14:17] <Jonnynorway> I was here earlier today and somebody told me it takes a few hours before i get changed to Premium, is there any chance something else has happend??
#2316 [14:18] <ReverendD> frogmella: I was trying to help you but I cannot really understand your issue.
#2317 [14:18] <mib_6adhh6> its my programs but it just comes up bin recources saves ect
#2318 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - That's because that's a shortcut to your .minecraft folder
#2319 [14:18] <frogmella> I have to start again?
#2320 [14:18] <frogmella> my story?
#2321 [14:18] <mib_6adhh6> so what do i do?
#2322 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - try downloading minecraft.exe again from the website
#2323 [14:18] <mib_6adhh6> ok
#2324 [14:18] <xales> Jonnynorway: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#2325 [14:19] <xales> frogmella: What exactly is the problem?
#2326 [14:19] * VoxelHead waves
#2326 [14:20] <frogmella> I start the game, click on single player, click on my world and play. When my world is loading it is going realy slow on bluilding, when it is loaded, you can't move. (like your pc is to slow for it)
#2327 [14:20] <frogmella> But I have a strong pc
#2328 [14:21] <xales> ??> frogmella nullsave
#2329 [14:21] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (nullsave) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#2330 [14:21] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (nullsave) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#2331 [14:21] <mib_6adhh6> where do i find it when i save it?
#2332 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - Try your documents/downloads
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#2334 [14:24] <mib_6adhh6> could not find the main class: launcherframe. program will exit.... java virtual machine
#2335 [14:24] <frogmella> I downloaded MCEdit
#2336 [14:24] <frogmella> but how I can handle this program?
#2337 [14:24] <frogmella> How it works?
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#2339 [14:25] <xales> frogmella: open it, open your world, press ctrl+s then close it
#2340 [14:25] <It> theres more that mcedit can do now
#2341 [14:25] <mib_6adhh6> could not find the main class: launcherframe. program will exit.... java virtual machine
#2342 [14:25] <xales> GreyVulpine: ^
#2343 [14:26] <It> while its open, go to world info, click repair chunks
#2344 [14:26] <It> might take a while for large worlds
#2345 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - Try uninstalling and reinstalling java
#2346 [14:26] <mib_6adhh6> ?
#2347 [14:26] <mib_6adhh6> how?
#2348 [14:27] <xales> Well, first you uninstall it
#2349 [14:27] <xales> And then you install it again...
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#2351 [14:27] <mib_6adhh6> and how do i uninstall?
#2352 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> What version of windows do you have?
#2353 [14:27] <xales> Just like any other program...
#2354 [14:27] <mib_6adhh6> vista
#2355 [14:27] <frogmella> Euhm, there is only, open world and create world
#2356 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu -> control panel -> should be an option for uninstalling programs in there
#2357 [14:27] <frogmella> in MCEdit
#2358 [14:27] <It> just for the record, mib_6adhh6 you are trying to use the launcher, right?
#2359 [14:28] <xales> frogmella: yes, you open your world
#2360 [14:28] <mib_6adhh6> yes
#2361 [14:28] <frogmella> with what file?
#2362 [14:28] <mib_6adhh6> sorry?
#2363 [14:28] <xales> frogmella: open your world in MCEdit...
#2364 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - Go to your start menu -> control panel -> should be an option for uninstalling programs in there
#2365 [14:29] <frogmella> Yeah, when I click on open...
#2366 [14:29] <frogmella> I have to select something
#2367 [14:29] <frogmella> But what I have to select
#2368 [14:29] <It> find the worlds level.dat
#2369 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_6adhh6 - Look for java in there, uninstall it. After doing that, you can go to http://www.java.com to reinstall java
#2370 [14:29] <It> its in the world folder
#2371 [14:29] <frogmella> Found it
#2372 [14:31] <frogmella> Now I opend that world...
#2373 [14:31] <frogmella> One screen is black with white digits, and the other is in my world
#2374 [14:31] <xales> Press ctrl+s to save it, then close mcedit
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#2376 [14:32] <It> ognore the black screen with white digits.
#2377 [14:32] <It> xales, remember about repair regions
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#2379 [14:32] <xales> uh, no
#2380 [14:32] <It> it's most useful
#2381 [14:32] <xales> well, you explain it to them then
#2382 [14:33] <It> if its just level.dat thats broken (and sometimes that's all it is) then just saving and closing will usually be ok
#2383 [14:33] <It> repair regions makes a stab at fixing broken regions and chunks
#2384 [14:33] <frogmella> mmh... I saved it...
#2385 [14:34] <frogmella> but it is still bugged I think
#2386 [14:34] <It> xales!!!1
#2387 [14:34] <It> M just unbanned visiiri!is.anoob
#2388 [14:34] <It> or whatever
#2389 [14:34] <It> quick, rebanxor, no time to lose!!!1
#2390 [14:35] <Verva> I noticed it says Vanilla help on the header... Can I still ask a question regarding bukkit?
#2391 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> That's a question for #bukkit
#2392 [14:36] <Verva> Ok, Thanks. :)
#2393 [14:36] <frogmella> no, it don't work
#2394 [14:37] <frogmella> btw... that MCEdit, it is slow too
#2395 [14:37] <frogmella> is that normal?
#2396 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> I don't think anybody here understand your original problem frogmella.
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#2399 [14:37] <frogmella> what are chunks?
#2400 [14:37] <oldtopmanserver> frogmella: wiki
#2401 [14:37] <frogmella> INFO: Saved 0 chunks
#2402 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> chunks are 16x16x128 pieces of land
#2403 [14:38] <mib_yszv7t> ok uninstalled what web site do i go to now??#
#2404 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> www.java.com
#2405 [14:38] <frogmella> When I save it that comes in the white digits
#2406 [14:39] <Wug> forg, minimize the qhite digite
#2407 [14:39] <Wug> white digits*
#2408 [14:39] <progme> i liked qhite digite better.
#2409 [14:39] <Wug> just ignore them, you cant interact with mcedit through that window
#2410 [14:39] * Wug slaps progme
#2410 [14:39] <frogmella> ok
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#2412 [14:39] <frogmella> I min it
#2413 [14:40] <mib_yszv7t> ok nearly done
#2414 [14:40] <frogmella> what now?
#2415 [14:41] <zucchini> okay, Hi, I have a problem running minecraf, it just randomly closes after a minute or so each time I run it... Anybody has an idea why or how to fix it? (BTW, I have windows 7)
#2416 [14:41] <xales> ??> zucchini win/reinst
#2417 [14:41] <VoxelHead> zucchini: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2418 [14:41] <VoxelHead> zucchini: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2420 [14:41] <xales> frogmella: make a new map in Minecraft
#2421 [14:41] <xales> is it also slow?
#2422 [14:41] <frogmella> not in the beginning
#2423 [14:42] <frogmella> I had a map before...
#2424 [14:42] <frogmella> I played
#2425 [14:42] <zucchini> no, it's not slow
#2426 [14:42] <mib_yszv7t> still said the same thing
#2427 [14:42] <mib_yszv7t> damn
#2428 [14:42] <frogmella> and after a lot of hours I had this
#2429 [14:42] <xales> zucchini: I was not talking to you
#2430 [14:42] <frogmella> But the map was 108 mb, so I thought it was to big
#2431 [14:42] <frogmella> and deleted it
#2432 [14:42] <frogmella> but this one is only 8mb
#2433 [14:42] <It> no such thing as a too big map
#2434 [14:42] <xales> frogmella: is the game slow on a new map
#2435 [14:42] <xales> or not?
#2436 [14:42] <It> my server's level is like 1.4GB
#2437 [14:42] <frogmella> no
#2438 [14:43] <It> something's wrong with the old one
#2439 [14:43] <xales> frogmella: okay then, follow what It says to do
#2440 [14:43] <It> I made a thread for corrupted saves, you could post it there
#2441 [14:43] <mib_yszv7t> still aint workign
#2442 [14:43] <frogmella> ok
#2443 [14:44] <xales> mib_yszv7t: how much RAM does your computer have?
#2444 [14:44] <mib_yszv7t> i have no idea what that is
#2445 [14:44] <mib_yszv7t> its a laptop
#2446 [14:44] <It> myself and a few others regularly visit that thread and do everything we can for broken saves
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#2448 [14:44] <frogmella> What I have to follow?
#2449 [14:45] <xales> It: well, give them the thread then
#2450 [14:45] <xales> mib_yszv7t: Right click on "Computer" and select Properties
#2451 [14:45] <xales> it will say there how much RAM you have
#2452 [14:45] <xales> please tell us
#2453 [14:45] <mib_yszv7t> 4:00gb
#2454 [14:46] <It> ??+ corruptedsaverecovery|Apocalypse_r has a thread in which he and others fix corrupted saves. The thread is: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/137381-official-corrupted-save-recovery-thread/
#2455 [14:46] <frogmella> xales, you said that I have to follow you
#2456 [14:46] <zucchini> VoxelHead > I tried the %appdata% trick, but it only open minecraft, not the directory
#2457 [14:46] <xales> frogmella: no, I said do what the use "it" says
#2458 [14:46] <It> it == me
#2459 [14:46] <It> capital I it
#2460 [14:47] <frogmella> ooh, ok
#2461 [14:47] <mib_yszv7t> is 4.00gb too small?
#2462 [14:47] <frogmella> can you start again? :)
#2463 [14:47] <It> ?? corruptedsaverecovery
#2464 [14:47] <VoxelHead> corruptedsaverecovery: Apocalypse_r has a thread in which he and others fix corrupted saves. The thread is: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/137381-official-corrupted-save-recovery-thread/
#2465 [14:47] <It> upload your save, post a link in that thread
#2466 [14:47] <zucchini> I'll check it out, thanks
#2467 [14:47] * xales pokes GreyVulpine
#2467 [14:47] <frogmella> ok, moment
#2468 [14:48] <xales> zucchini: All of this stuff is for someone else...
#2469 [14:48] <frogmella> How I can upload it?
#2470 [14:48] <xales> zucchini: You have to follow the instructions that VoxelHead gave you
#2471 [14:48] <mib_yszv7t> iis 4.00gb too small to run minecraft?
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#2473 [14:49] <xales> No
#2474 [14:49] <xales> Reinstall Java.
#2475 [14:49] <tomg246> can some1 help me on minecraft plzz
#2476 [14:49] <mib_yszv7t> i did it still didnt work
#2477 [14:49] <xales> ??> tomg246 ask
#2478 [14:49] <VoxelHead> tomg246: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2479 [14:49] <VoxelHead> tomg246: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2480 [14:49] <xales> ??>> mib_yszv7t win/reinst
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#2482 [14:49] <mib_yszv7t> what?
#2483 [14:50] <xales> Follow the instructions that VoxelHead just send you
#2484 [14:50] <mib_yszv7t> ohh ok
#2485 [14:50] <frogmella> ok, it, it's uploading
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#2487 [14:50] <VoxelHead> i hope they don't come back
#2488 [14:50] <frogmella> it: http://www.2shared.com/file/AwQmh7VX/World_of_Minecraft.html
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#2490 [14:51] <mib_yszv7t> ok now what/.
#2491 [14:51] <It> that's not the thread, but ok
#2492 [14:51] <mib_4uxzuf> when i load a world if i right click to place a block minecraft closes
#2493 [14:51] <tomg246> when i start up minecraft it says would you like to update i click yes and it says fatel error etc ( access is denied) what do i need to do ???
#2494 [14:52] <frogmella> what do you mean with 'that's not the thread'?
#2495 [14:52] <xales> ??> tomg246 win/reinst
#2496 [14:52] <VoxelHead> tomg246: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2497 [14:52] <VoxelHead> tomg246: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2498 [14:52] <xales> ??> mib_4uxzuf win/reinst
#2499 [14:52] <xales> :(
#2500 [14:52] <frogzilla> Same guy from last night, redownloaded Minecraft but now when I try to get on to any server it tells me I can't connect because it is an unknown host..
#2501 [14:52] <tomg246> okia thank you :)
#2502 [14:52] <mib_yszv7t> how do i run it?
#2503 [14:52] <xales> frogzilla: Try this server: s.nerd.nu
#2504 [14:53] <mib_yszv7t> i deleted the stuff now what?
#2505 [14:53] <xales> mib_yszv7t: Download the file from minecraft.net, place it on your desktop, then double click it
#2506 [14:53] <frogzilla> I did.
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#2508 [14:53] <xales> frogzilla: and?
#2509 [14:53] <VoxelHead> Bye mib_a9n8oq.
#2510 [14:53] <mib_yszv7t> download minecraft.exe?
#2511 [14:53] <frogmella> it: is it ok?
#2512 [14:53] <xales> mib_yszv7t: yes, that is what I just said
#2513 [14:54] <frogzilla> Well I just tried again and it worked this time..
#2514 [14:54] <mib_4uxzuf> right clicking closes m,inecraft how do i solve this?
#2515 [14:54] <xales> ??> mib_4uxzuf win/reinst
#2516 [14:54] <VoxelHead> mib_4uxzuf: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2517 [14:54] <VoxelHead> mib_4uxzuf: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2518 [14:55] <frogzilla> Same error as last night..
#2519 [14:55] <mib_yszv7t> do i want too replace the minecraft file already in place?
#2520 [14:55] <xales> mib_yszv7t: yes
#2521 [14:55] <xales> frogzilla: which is?
#2522 [14:56] <frogzilla> Internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: read timed out
#2523 [14:56] <frogmella> it? You found something?
#2524 [14:56] <It> hang on
#2525 [14:56] <frogmella> ok
#2526 [14:56] <xales> frogzilla: are you on wifi?
#2527 [14:56] <mib_4uxzuf> VoxelHead: when i ran minecraft it said i minecraft want downloaded
#2528 [14:57] <mib_4uxzuf> * wasnt downloaded
#2529 [14:57] <xales> mib_4uxzuf: Did you buy minecraft?
#2530 [14:57] <mib_4uxzuf> no
#2531 [14:57] <xales> The game is not free
#2532 [14:57] <mib_yszv7t> lol
#2533 [14:57] <xales> you have to buy it to play it
#2534 [14:57] <mib_4uxzuf> the beta is
#2535 [14:57] <xales> No, it isn't
#2536 [14:58] <xales> Classic is free
#2537 [14:58] <xales> Beta is not
#2538 [14:58] <frogzilla> The Alpha is..
#2539 [14:58] <tomg246> VoxIHead, erm it worked fine and thank you But i click on m old world and it doesent work, doesent even work, Help plzz ?
#2540 [14:58] <xales> Alpha does not exist any more
#2541 [14:58] <mib_4uxzuf> when you download it it is check the site
#2542 [14:58] <VoxelHead> and thaaan?
#2543 [14:58] <xales> mib_4uxzuf: Again, you have to buy the game to play it
#2544 [14:58] <mib_4uxzuf> i hve had beta for wo months for free
#2545 [14:58] <mib_yszv7t> where do i lauch it from my documents?
#2546 [14:58] <xales> Then you downloaded it illegally from another site
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#2548 [14:58] <xales> mib_yszv7t: no. put the minecraft.exe on your desktop and run it from there
#2549 [14:59] <xales> ??> tomg246 nullsave
#2550 [14:59] <VoxelHead> tomg246: (nullsave) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#2551 [14:59] <VoxelHead> tomg246: (nullsave) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#2552 [14:59] <mib_4uxzuf> then how come i have played it for 2 months then
#2553 [14:59] <frogzilla> And you are a pirate.
#2554 [14:59] <xales> mib_4uxzuf: Then you downloaded an illegal version from an unofficial website
#2555 [14:59] <nets> hi
#2556 [14:59] <xales> Hello
#2557 [14:59] <frogzilla> Arg matey.
#2558 [14:59] <tomg246> ok thank you :D
#2559 [14:59] <It> maybe he just has been playing classic
#2560 [14:59] <It> and doesnt know it
#2561 [14:59] <nets> anyone can help me with "Too many failed logins" error?
#2562 [15:00] <mib_4uxzuf> xales http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2563 [15:00] <xales> nets: you will just have to be patient with that, it will go away after a minute
#2564 [15:00] <tomg246> sorry to bother you again but do i just download it
#2565 [15:00] <frogzilla> mib_4uxzuf: Are there monsters in your game?
#2566 [15:00] <mib_yszv7t> erm says my computer is not compataible for this version ect
#2567 [15:00] <xales> mib_yszv7t: What are you trying to run...
#2568 [15:01] <xales> tomg246: Yes, you download MCEdit, then you open the world, and then you save it
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#2570 [15:01] <mib_yszv7t> minecraft.exe
#2571 [15:01] <tomg246> ok thankzz
#2572 [15:01] <nets> xales: wait don't work :(
#2573 [15:01] <xales> mib_yszv7t: and what, EXACTLY, does it say?
#2574 [15:01] <frogzilla> Anyway, anyone know anything about my problem?
#2575 [15:01] <xales> frogzilla: Are you on wifi?
#2576 [15:02] <frogzilla> Yeah..
#2577 [15:02] <xales> Can you try plugging the computer in?
#2578 [15:03] <frogmella> it, you still on my problem?
#2579 [15:03] <frogzilla> Umm, I'm gonna try disabling Avira..
#2580 [15:03] <frogzilla> Then I'll go do that..
#2581 [15:03] <It> working on it
#2582 [15:03] <It> there's a few corrupted chunks
#2583 [15:03] <Lexe> how do you use the minecarts :(
#2584 [15:04] <It> right click to get in them
#2585 [15:04] <It> right click again to get out
#2586 [15:04] <mib_yszv7t> the version of this file is not compatible with the version of windows youre running.check you computers system info to see wheter you need a x86932bit0 or x64 964bit0 version of the program,then contact the software pubilsher .
#2587 [15:05] <It> dowload the .jar and try running that
#2588 [15:05] <frogzilla> Still d/c'd with firewall off..
#2589 [15:05] <It> !client
#2590 [15:05] <It> frog, try a different server?
#2591 [15:05] <It> mine's woogly.dnsdojo.net
#2592 [15:05] <VoxelHead> I'm gonna sing the doom song now... dooom doom doom.
#2593 [15:06] <frogzilla> I've tried 3 already, but I guess it's worth a shot.
#2594 [15:06] <tomg246> ive downloaded the MCedit thingy but where do i save my world etc
#2595 [15:06] <xales> tomg246: open your world, then press ctrl+s
#2596 [15:06] <frogmella> to upload that map?
#2597 [15:06] <nets> too many failed logins yet :(
#2598 [15:06] <tomg246> with the MCedit open aswell ?
#2599 [15:07] <xales> tomg246: Yes, you open your world in MCEdit, and then, in MCEdit, you press ctrl+s
#2600 [15:07] <xales> ...
#2601 [15:07] <frogmella> it... what do you mean?
#2602 [15:07] <tomg246> ok thank you
#2603 [15:08] <It> i was talking to frogzilla
#2604 [15:08] <frogmella> ok
#2605 [15:09] <tomg246> i clicked ctrl + s but is hasent worked
#2606 [15:09] <frogzilla> Well, I made it longer than usual..
#2607 [15:09] <xales> tomg246: was your world open in MCEdit?
#2608 [15:09] <frogzilla> Like, at least 2 minutes..
#2609 [15:09] <xales> It: What did the console show when frogzilla disconnected?
#2610 [15:10] <tomg246> yes i went on MCedit opened my world in there ( i could see my house ) and clicked ctrl+s but hasent worked
#2611 [15:10] <xales> then close MCEdit and try to play it again
#2612 [15:10] <frogzilla> Internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: read timed out
#2613 [15:11] <xales> ooh, I know
#2614 [15:11] <xales> one second
#2615 [15:11] <tomg246> Ooo the world made the clicky noise but screen just went black :s
#2616 [15:11] <It> hang on, i'm running the server in a tty to protect it from x instabilities
#2617 [15:11] <It> lemme move it somewhre I can scroll the output
#2618 [15:12] <It> *le restart server*
#2619 [15:12] <xales> ??> tomg246 corruptsaverecovery
#2620 [15:12] <frogzilla> My sound on MC also hasn't been working if that gives you guys any clues..
#2621 [15:12] <xales> oh, derp
#2622 [15:12] <xales> ??> tomg246 corruptedsaverecovery
#2623 [15:12] <nets> damn, I can't install, I can't play...
#2624 [15:12] <VoxelHead> tomg246: (corruptedsaverecovery) Apocalypse_r has a thread in which he and others fix corrupted saves. The thread is: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/137381-official-corrupted-save-recovery-thread/
#2625 [15:12] <frogmella> it, are you still busy?
#2626 [15:12] <It> yeah, i'm working on it
#2627 [15:12] <nets> thanks for trying to help anyway
#2628 [15:12] <xales> nets: Email support@mojang.com - we can't help with account/login issues
#2629 [15:12] <It> mcedit's taking its sweet time
#2630 [15:12] <frogmella> oké :)
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#2633 [15:13] <nets> xales: thanks
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#2636 [15:13] <Main9162> Hey
#2637 [15:13] <xales> Hi.
#2638 [15:13] <tomg246> tht link what do i do when im on it
#2639 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> tomg246: read?
#2640 [15:13] <tomg246> kk
#2641 [15:14] <kermie> hay i keep gettin stuck a lwjgl.jar now ive turned off my firewall and my java is fully updated any advice????
#2642 [15:14] <VoxelHead> Is fully, got it.
#2643 [15:14] <mib_8oxc6i> everytime we try to play the game it says it has crashed i'v tried reinstalling it but nothing works
#2644 [15:14] <kermie> 14%
#2645 [15:14] <frogzilla> Perhaps I should email them too since I've been talking to you guys for close to 4 hours total on this issue?
#2646 [15:15] <Main9162> 1.6 version of the game is better than 1.5? (Sorry for my bad english)
#2647 [15:15] <xales> ??> kermie win/reinst
#2648 [15:15] <VoxelHead> kermie: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2649 [15:15] <VoxelHead> kermie: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2650 [15:15] <xales> Main9162: Yes.
#2651 [15:15] <xales> mib_8oxc6i: How did you reinstall it?
#2652 [15:16] <Main9162> need to update the server? And what is new, but grass and manholes?
#2653 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> Main9162: maps. SMP nether. Cobwebs.
#2654 [15:16] <xolotl> Main9162: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#2655 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> Fewer bedbugs. More lighting bugs.
#2656 [15:16] <mib_8oxc6i> i went into my programs and deleted everything related to it than went to the web site
#2657 [15:17] <xales> ??> mib_8oxc6i win/reinst
#2658 [15:17] <VoxelHead> mib_8oxc6i: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2659 [15:17] <VoxelHead> mib_8oxc6i: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2660 [15:17] <mib_8oxc6i> ok thanks
#2661 [15:17] <kermie> i tried that just then it did not work
#2662 [15:18] <kermie> still stuck on 14% downloaded
#2663 [15:18] <tomg246> ok i sort of get the thing apocalypse is asking, but where/how do i send my info
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#2665 [15:19] <Main9162> oh no, everything is in English. Sorry, I'm from Russia badly know English.
#2666 [15:19] <xales> tomg246: You post it in the thread...
#2667 [15:19] <xolotl> Main9162: This channel is almost entirely English as well
#2668 [15:19] <VoxelHead> where'd my moose go?
#2669 [15:19] <xales> kermie: Are you sure that your firewall is off?
#2670 [15:20] <g> vox, shup up
#2671 [15:20] <tomg246> but it say's i cannot reply to it
#2672 [15:21] <Main9162> Clearly, you are unlikely to have access to the Russian sites. Thank you and on this one.
#2673 [15:21] <kermie> ye im sure
#2674 [15:21] <xales> tomg246: do you have an account on the forum...?
#2675 [15:21] <xales> kermie: Try playing it in your browser
#2676 [15:21] <It> frogmella, it's not looking too good
#2677 [15:21] <tomg246> the forum, the main website >?
#2678 [15:22] <It> if it was 1 or 2 chunks, it would be better, but it looks like as many as dozens
#2679 [15:22] <kermie> thats what im trying to do :( it just keeps getin stuck on 14% when trying to download the update
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#2681 [15:23] <kermie> it wont play even if i dont install the update
#2682 [15:23] <Main9162> google.ru
#2683 [15:23] <frogmella> what do you mean?
#2684 [15:23] <xales> kermie: and did you delete the 'bin' folder?
#2685 [15:23] <Main9162> There is anyone out there?
#2686 [15:24] <ostrichboy> whenever i go on to play it says that minecraft has crashed and that i should contact mojang
#2687 [15:24] <kermie> ye
#2688 [15:24] <frogmella> it, what do you mean?
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#2690 [15:24] <ostrichboy> whenever i go on to play it says that minecraft has crashed and that i should contact mojang?
#2691 [15:24] <xales> ostrichboy: We saw you the first time.
#2692 [15:25] <ostrichboy> well noone answered
#2693 [15:25] <xales> Is there an error report?
#2694 [15:25] <ostrichboy> yeah
#2695 [15:25] <xales> And it might take more than 60 seconds for someone to answer...
#2696 [15:25] <xales> anyway
#2697 [15:25] <xales> copy the error report to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link to it
#2698 [15:25] <ostrichboy> it wont let me copy it
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#2700 [15:26] <xales> Are you playing in your browser?
#2701 [15:26] <ostrichboy> yes
#2702 [15:26] <xales> Use the download version
#2703 [15:26] <kermie> so ye im not sure where to go with this
#2704 [15:26] <ostrichboy> alright thanks
#2705 [15:26] <frogmella> It, what do you mean?
#2706 [15:27] <Main9162> Do you all so confusing to minecraft, we have in Tomsk servers 20-30 and many free versions is perfect. Have you paid all the server? Most?
#2707 [15:27] <xales> kermie: Reinstall Java
#2708 [15:27] <It> I mean your level is very badly damaged, theres not much I can do
#2709 [15:27] <It> it would be easier to start over
#2710 [15:27] <xales> Main9162: You should try asking on the forum. http://minecraftforum.net
#2711 [15:27] <frogmella> Mmmh, and if it happens again...
#2712 [15:28] <frogmella> I mean, I did nothing wrong...
#2713 [15:28] <frogmella> I think
#2714 [15:28] <It> did minecraft crash>
#2715 [15:28] <It> ?
#2716 [15:28] <It> that sometimes causes stuff like this
#2717 [15:28] <frogmella> no
#2718 [15:28] <frogmella> btw...
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#2720 [15:28] <frogmella> after every time I played
#2721 [15:28] <frogmella> I copied the savefile
#2722 [15:28] <Main9162> Thank you, good night
#2723 [15:28] <It> meanwhile I think I just discovered why my server keeps crashing
#2724 [15:28] <frogmella> and when I died, I copied it back
#2725 [15:28] <It> frog, it could've been that
#2726 [15:29] <It> don't do stuff like that
#2727 [15:29] <frogmella> start new ...
#2728 [15:29] <It> you don't have to start new when you die
#2729 [15:29] <tomg246> Replying to Official Corrupted Save Recovery Thread << how do i put my world on it
#2730 [15:29] <It> you can just go pick up your items
#2731 [15:29] <frogmella> ok
#2732 [15:29] <It> tomg, there's instructions in the first post, read them
#2733 [15:29] <frogmella> ty
#2734 [15:29] <frogmella> cya
#2735 [15:29] <It> bye
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#2738 [15:31] <It> something didnt reobfuscate correctly
#2739 [15:31] <ostrichboy> xales: i just downloaded it but it comes up with a black screen, i tried to download a texture pack 5 minutes before this all happened could that be the reason?
#2740 [15:31] <xales> Yes, that is the reason
#2741 [15:31] <xales> Delete the texture pack
#2742 [15:32] <ostrichboy> i cant delete it from the folder in the game, i deleted it from my documents but the error code still shows
#2743 [15:32] <xales> ??> ostrichboy win/reinst
#2744 [15:32] <VoxelHead> ostrichboy: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2745 [15:32] <VoxelHead> ostrichboy: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2746 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> "Just after I stuck this thing in my eye, suddenly I have this headache. Do you think maybe I should take it out?"
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#2748 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> ??+ causality|If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.;;Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
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#2750 [15:38] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: I predict a lot of "I don't understand what this means" :p
#2751 [15:38] <xales> An excellent way to learn
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#2754 [15:40] <lifeismusic> hi i need help with a multiplayer server error
#2755 [15:40] <mib_yszv7t> dude i am back it worked then it crashed
#2756 [15:41] <ostrichboy> windows+R keys? im not good with computers
#2757 [15:41] <ostrichboy> as you can probably tell! ;)
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#2759 [15:41] <zelda> hello?
#2760 [15:41] <Morrolan> The windows key is the one on the lower left, with the little flag on it.
#2761 [15:41] <Morrolan> hey zelda
#2762 [15:41] <VoxelHead> Hey zelda... helda.
#2763 [15:42] <lifeismusic> how can i fix an error report that says java.net.sockettimeutexception: read timed out
#2764 [15:42] <zelda> hi r u guys able to help me
#2765 [15:42] <Morrolan> ostrichboy: This one: http://cope-et-al.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/windows_key.jpg
#2766 [15:42] <Morrolan> ostrichboy: Now press this key and R at the same time.
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#2768 [15:42] <Morrolan> zelda: If you tell us your problem.
#2769 [15:42] <ostrichboy> oh that was simple!
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#2771 [15:42] <zelda> my game says that it fails to launch whenever i try to update it
#2772 [15:42] <lifeismusic> plz can someone help me
#2773 [15:42] <Cyaankali> good evening :)
#2774 [15:42] <Morrolan> lifeismusic: Patience please. ;)
#2775 [15:42] <Morrolan> Hey Cyaankali
#2776 [15:43] <Cyaankali> hey Morrolan :)
#2777 [15:43] <lifeismusic> well wat does it even mean
#2778 [15:43] <Morrolan> Zelda: "fails to launch"? Could you give us the eror.
#2779 [15:43] <Morrolan> error*
#2780 [15:43] <zelda> sure one moment
#2781 [15:43] <Cyaankali> could you help me with a little bug problem in MC pls?
#2782 [15:43] <Morrolan> lifeismusic: Haven't seen this error before. I'd say that the server somehow closes the connection. :/
#2783 [15:43] <Morrolan> Sure Cyaankali, what exactly?
#2784 [15:44] <Morrolan> lifeismusic: Suggest you wait a bit more, could very well be that one of the others has an idae.
#2785 [15:44] <zelda> this is exactly what it says: fatal error occured (4)
#2786 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: what ever do you mean?
#2787 [15:44] <xales> lifeismusic: Try a different server
#2788 [15:44] <xales> zelda: What OS>?
#2789 [15:45] <lifeismusic> ok
#2790 [15:45] <Cyaankali> playing on a server of a friend of mine and once in a while i get this error "not enough memory"... with a text message "maybe it's a bug etc... pls restart the client :s
#2791 [15:45] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Sorry?
#2792 [15:45] <zelda> i hav a mac
#2793 [15:45] <xales> ??> zelda mac/reinst
#2794 [15:45] <Morrolan> ??> zelda mac/reinst
#2795 [15:45] <VoxelHead> zelda: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2796 [15:45] <VoxelHead> zelda: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2797 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> 12:39 <+Morrolan> DopeGhoti: I predict a lot of "I don't understand what this means" :p
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#2799 [15:45] <xales> Cyaankali: That is a fairly common problem with 1.6, unfortunately
#2800 [15:45] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Ah, that new FAQ entry I meant. ;)
#2801 [15:46] <Cyaankali> aha
#2802 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: given that it will be the answer to "If I pull this knife out of my eye, will that help my headache?" questions, you may have a going theory there
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#2804 [15:46] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Exactly.
#2805 [15:46] <lifeismusic> how does one update their server
#2806 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> we'll see.
#2807 [15:46] <Morrolan> !server
#2808 [15:47] <Cyaankali> mmm hopefully it will be fixed soon in 1.7 or so :)
#2809 [15:47] <Morrolan> lifeismusic: ^
#2810 [15:47] <DopeGhoti> lifeismusic: download new server .jar. Run new .jar. Enjoy.
#2811 [15:47] <lifeismusic> jk i mean how do you try another server i dont know of one
#2812 [15:47] <Morrolan> Cyaankali: Yep. :)
#2813 [15:47] <Morrolan> ??> lifeismusic smp/servesr
#2814 [15:47] <xales> ??> lifeismusic smp/servers
#2815 [15:47] <VoxelHead> lifeismusic: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2816 [15:47] <VoxelHead> lifeismusic: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2817 [15:48] <Morrolan> Ugh, the one time where xales isn't faster than me I mistyped the keyword. ^^
#2818 [15:48] <Nitorin> uh hello
#2819 [15:48] <VoxelHead> i like them :o)
#2820 [15:48] <Morrolan> Hey Nitorin
#2821 [15:48] <Nitorin> I have a lil issue
#2822 [15:48] <Cyaankali> tnx for the quick response Morrolan & xales :)
#2823 [15:48] <Morrolan> Could you give us a little explanation, Nitorin? ;)
#2824 [15:48] <Morrolan> You're welcome, Cyaankali.
#2825 [15:49] <Nitorin> http://gyazo.com/afe1fa29be32917bf6cb6c88ea6e71fa.png This, can you see that lines?
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#2827 [15:49] <zelda> guys bad news that didnt help
#2828 [15:49] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: xales _was_ faster than you, at least to my perspective.
#2829 [15:49] <Morrolan> Nitorin: Uhm, yea. Strange.
#2830 [15:49] <xales> zelda: What, exactly, does the error say?
#2831 [15:49] <Nitorin> it might be my graphic card?
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#2833 [15:49] <xales> Nitorin: Possibly - you could try updating the drivers
#2834 [15:50] <Nitorin> I will check the options, udated the drivers last week. Maybe there is a filter on
#2835 [15:50] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Really? So in IRC chat messages don't arrive the way they've been sent by the server?
#2836 [15:50] <Morrolan> arrive in the order they've...*
#2837 [15:50] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go =[
#2838 [15:51] <xales> Morrolan: Your client will see messages it sends before it propogates across the network
#2839 [15:51] <zelda> it says fatal error occured (4): /Users/sharonmillard/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#2840 [15:51] <xales> zelda: And did you delete the `bin` folder as the instructions said?
#2841 [15:51] <zelda> yes
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#2843 [15:52] <zelda> then i downloaded a new one
#2844 [15:52] <Morrolan> Xales: Oh, ok.
#2845 [15:52] <xales> How did you download a new one?
#2846 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: in IRC, one's client displays the messages in the order in which they are received from the server
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#2848 [15:52] <zelda> or sorry i downloaded a new minecraft game
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#2850 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> zelda: from whence?
#2851 [15:53] <zelda> minecraft.net
#2852 [15:53] <Nitorin> good news, I solved it! If anyone else have that issue...its the Anisotropic filtering :>
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#2854 [15:53] <lifeismusic> java.net.sockettimeutexception: read timed out
#2855 [15:53] <Morrolan> Nitorin: Heh, good to know.
#2856 [15:53] <sprog> when i play classic single player it says an error occured while loading the applet
#2857 [15:54] <Morrolan> Xales: Ah, ok. Wouldn't have thought that it's handled this way.
#2858 [15:54] <sprog> please contact support to reslove the prblem
#2859 [15:54] <zelda> sorry but r people still helping me
#2860 [15:54] <xales> sprog: Has it worked before?
#2861 [15:54] <xales> ??> zelda patience
#2862 [15:54] <VoxelHead> zelda: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#2863 [15:54] <VoxelHead> zelda: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#2864 [15:54] <sprog> no first time
#2865 [15:54] <zelda> ok sorry
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#2867 [15:54] <xales> sprog: Reinstall Java
#2868 [15:55] <sprog> kk
#2869 [15:55] <xales> zelda: Has Minecraft worked before?
#2870 [15:55] <zelda> yes i hav had it for a few months this was rather sudden
#2871 [15:56] <xales> ??> zelda mac/profile
#2872 [15:56] <VoxelHead> zelda: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2873 [15:56] <VoxelHead> zelda: (mac/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2874 [15:56] <xales> NOT a Minecraft account
#2875 [15:56] <xales> A user account on your computer
#2876 [15:56] <zelda> i am unsure ow to do that
#2877 [15:56] <zelda> how*
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#2879 [15:57] <lifeismusic> so the error java.net.sockettimeutexception: read timed out thing is also happening for my brother we have two separate accounts we are using two different computers could it possibly be the servers fault not ours
#2880 [15:57] <xales> Go to System Preferences
#2881 [15:57] <xales> click Users
#2882 [15:57] <xales> Make a new account
#2883 [15:57] <xales> lifeismusic: Again, try a different server
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#2885 [15:57] <lifeismusic> again i still dont know how to do it sorry
#2886 [15:58] <zelda> ok thnks ill b on again if it doesnt work
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#2888 [15:58] <sprog> works now ty
#2889 [15:59] <xales> ??> lifeismusic smp/servers
#2890 [15:59] <VoxelHead> lifeismusic: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2891 [15:59] <VoxelHead> lifeismusic: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2892 [15:59] <xales> Find a server from that list, and try to connect to it...
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#2895 [16:00] <BTLOTM> I can't get a server to work unless everyone's connected to my connection :(
#2896 [16:00] <Morrolan> BTLOTM: most likely you didn't forward the ports then.
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#2898 [16:00] <xales> Or using the wrong IP
#2899 [16:01] <BTLOTM> Yes, I don't get....how to do that. I don't have a traditional router.
#2900 [16:01] <Morrolan> Ok, let's first try xales' idea.
#2901 [16:01] <BTLOTM> So portforward.com was no help to me.
#2902 [16:01] <Morrolan> With what IP are they trying to connect when not connected to your network?
#2903 [16:01] <xales> What do you mean by, not a traditional router?
#2904 [16:01] <Morrolan> let's try xales' idea first*
#2905 [16:01] <BTLOTM> Let me find out
#2906 [16:02] <BTLOTM> my iPv4 address
#2907 [16:02] <g> http://whatismyip.net
#2908 [16:02] <g> ^
#2909 [16:02] <g> ~title
#2910 [16:02] <McPlusPlus> "What is my IP , shows you your current IP number" (http://is.gd/wfwx5c)
#2911 [16:02] <BTLOTM> Also doesn't work.
#2912 [16:02] <BTLOTM> But that's the one I should be hosting on?
#2913 [16:02] <xales> That won't work unless you port forward
#2914 [16:03] <BTLOTM> Okay.
#2915 [16:03] <xales> in addition, you must not enter any IP whatsoever in the server.properties file
#2916 [16:04] <BTLOTM> Okay, I can fix that, but I'm still not sure what port forwarding exactly is.
#2917 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> Port forwarding is dynamic network address translation
#2918 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> or reverse IP masquerading
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#2921 [16:05] <mib_h3968v> Does anyone know how to install texture packs?
#2922 [16:05] <Morrolan> mib_h3968v, HD or default?
#2923 [16:05] <mib_h3968v> hd
#2924 [16:06] <Morrolan> mib_h3968v: You'll need to use the HD texture patcher then.
#2925 [16:06] <Morrolan> BTLOTM: Port forwarding basically allows people to connect to your PC through that port. Think of it as some sort of door which you unlock.
#2926 [16:07] <BTLOTM> Okay. What type of...application is minecraft? Besides .exe.
#2927 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> Java.
#2928 [16:09] <Morrolan> Oh, I guess now I have a question as well. :D
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#2930 [16:09] <Morrolan> On my server people who are in the Nether seem to be flying around in the normal world, and vice-versa. Is this a vanilla bug, or one caused by bukkit?
#2931 [16:09] <BTLOTM> FTP, HTTP, HTTPS, DNS, SMTP, POP3, TELNET, IPSec, PPTP, DCS-1000, DCS-5300, DCS-2000, i2eye, DCS-3120, would be my options
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#2934 [16:10] <xales> BTLOTM: You would have to specify a custom port
#2935 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: probably a Bukkit bug
#2936 [16:10] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Ok.
#2937 [16:10] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: testable by seeing if running vanilla stops that behavior (:
#2938 [16:10] <mib_mnmwcg> i downloaded a texture pack and it wont let me open it on the text pack screen any help would be nice thanks.
#2939 [16:11] <xales> Did you place it in the correct folder?
#2940 [16:11] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Hmm, tbh I haven't even tried it on my local server. Shame on me. ^^
#2941 [16:11] <BTLOTM> ...Its not where its asking for a port number, its asking for an application.
#2942 [16:11] <mib_mnmwcg> what folder do i download it to?
#2943 [16:11] <xales> mib_mnmwcg: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Texture_Packs#Windows
#2944 [16:11] <Morrolan> mib_mnmwcg: Did you leave it as a zip?
#2945 [16:12] <mib_mnmwcg> yea i did
#2946 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> BTLOTM: Oh frell. This isn't a 2Wire router, is it?
#2947 [16:12] <BTLOTM> ...No.
#2948 [16:12] <ellisgeek> ?? bots
#2949 [16:12] <Morrolan> Ok, so that's not the issue. And did you put it into the "texturepacks" folder in .minecraft?
#2950 [16:12] <xales> BTLOTM: If you can't specify anything except for those, you will either have to run Minecraft on a port used by one of them, use some sort of VPN, or just not run a Minecraft server
#2951 [16:13] <ellisgeek> ??> ellisgeek bots
#2952 [16:13] <Morrolan> ??> ellisgeek irc/bots
#2953 [16:13] <VoxelHead> ellisgeek: (irc/bots) The bots in this channel are meant to be used for assisting users in need of help
#2954 [16:13] <VoxelHead> ellisgeek: (irc/bots) Abuse of the bots will have you removed from the channel. If you aren't using the bot for it's intended purpose, you ARE abusing it
#2955 [16:13] <Morrolan> I guess that's the one you want?
#2956 [16:14] <Morrolan> Or rather this one:
#2957 [16:14] <Morrolan> ??> ellisgeek bot
#2958 [16:14] <VoxelHead> ellisgeek: (bot) Yes, I'm a bot.
#2959 [16:14] <lifeismusic> unfortunate;y everytime i try and join a server it is either whitelisted or needs to be updated
#2960 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> VoxelHead, ARE you a bot?
#2961 [16:14] <VoxelHead> CruelNoise made me
#2962 [16:14] <Morrolan> lifeismusic: Try minecraft.lethal-zone.eu
#2963 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> ??> lifeismusic smp/servers
#2964 [16:14] <lifeismusic> ok
#2965 [16:15] <BTLOTM> This has to be possible.
#2966 [16:15] <VoxelHead> lifeismusic: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2967 [16:15] <VoxelHead> lifeismusic: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2968 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> BTLOTM: I would be astounded if your router did not offer you the option to define a custom application or port.
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#2970 [16:15] <BTLOTM> I have no idea how to. I'm looking in the manual right now.
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#2973 [16:16] <Morrolan> BTLOTM: If you want you could give us a screenshot of your router's main menu as well, we might be able to spot it.
#2974 [16:16] <BTLOTM> In the last row of the table, click the Application field, and select the application type from the list. The values for Start and End ports are automatically filled in. If necessary, change the range of port numbers associated with the application. Traffic will be allowed (not blocked) if its destination port number is in the specified range.
#2975 [16:16] <kittymadcow> i need some help :(
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#2977 [16:16] <Morrolan> BTLOTM: Oh, doesn't look too bad.
#2978 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> ??> kittymadcow ask
#2979 [16:16] <VoxelHead> kittymadcow: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2980 [16:16] <VoxelHead> kittymadcow: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2981 [16:16] <kittymadcow> basically, when i try to install mc.exe i get fatal error
#2982 [16:16] <BTLOTM> Yes, but I don't get what I should put in the application field.
#2983 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> there is no mc.ece
#2984 [16:16] <kittymadcow> tried compat modes and run admin :(
#2985 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> or mc.exe
#2986 [16:17] <kittymadcow> i mean minecraft.exe ofc
#2987 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> from whnce are you obtaining your download, kittymadcow?
#2988 [16:17] <ellisgeek> just a question is there a way to ether get aubot in my channel or a place that i can download it so when i get my IRC server up and running i can use aubot
#2989 [16:17] <kittymadcow> the minecraft.net downloads page
#2990 [16:17] <Morrolan> ellisgeek: You'd have to contact, uuh.
#2991 [16:17] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Is it GreyVulpine's bot?
#2992 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> kittymadcow: there's nothing to install; you just run it.
#2993 [16:17] <Morrolan> Oh, sorry for the highlight.
#2994 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: I think it's Kealper's.
#2995 [16:18] <Morrolan> DopeGhoti: Ok.
#2996 [16:18] <kittymadcow> well running it then, it says fatal error and quits
#2997 [16:18] <xales> kittymadcow: What, exactly, is the error?
#2998 [16:18] <Morrolan> ellisgeek: I suggest you contact "Kealper" then.
#2999 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> kittymadcow: we need the exact error message, verbatim
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#3001 [16:18] <mib_hd404e> right i have a problem i have bought the game fully updated my java ran %AppData% deleted everything but my save file turned off my fire wall and i am still gettin stuck at 14% on lwjgl.jar....advice????
#3002 [16:18] <ellisgeek> email or just pm him?
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#3004 [16:18] <Morrolan> BTLOTM: Basically you should be able to select any application then, and just change the ports I guess.
#3005 [16:18] <kittymadcow> java virtual machine laucher: fatal exception occured. program will exit.
#3006 [16:19] <Morrolan> ellisgeek: PM I guess.
#3007 [16:19] <neil> hi!, if i pay for the beta, do i need to pay again when the full game is done?
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#3009 [16:19] <Morrolan> Unless you know his mail. ;)
#3010 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> kittymadcow: you may need to reinstall java
#3011 [16:19] <Morrolan> neil: No.
#3012 [16:19] <kittymadcow> possibly, it failed to update to update 24
#3013 [16:19] <neil> so buying the game now, is the only time i need to pay?
#3014 [16:19] <Morrolan> You will get any version until it reaches the final verson for free.
#3015 [16:19] <Morrolan> Neil: Yes.
#3016 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> kittymadcow: that's almost definitely the problem then.
#3017 [16:19] <Morrolan> Well, if there will be an addon then you will have to pay.
#3018 [16:19] <neil> so does that include the final version or?
#3019 [16:19] <Morrolan> It does.
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#3021 [16:19] <mib_hd404e> right i have a problem i have bought the game fully updated my java ran %AppData% deleted everything but my save file turned off my fire wall and i am still gettin stuck at 14% on lwjgl.jar....advice????
#3022 [16:19] <DopeGhoti> neil: yes.
#3023 [16:20] <BTLOTM> See, that's what I was thinking Morrolan, but the only options it'll let me put are application types it seems like, which I previously listed.
#3024 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_hd404e win/profile
#3025 [16:20] <VoxelHead> mib_hd404e: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3026 [16:20] <Morrolan> BTLOTM: And when you select one of these application types, and choose "continue" or whatever it's called?
#3027 [16:20] <VoxelHead> mib_hd404e: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3028 [16:20] <neil> cool. sorry just so i am 100% clear, if i buy the game now, although its a beta, when the final game is out... i will not need to pay again. correct?
#3029 [16:20] <xales> BTLOTM: Just don't put an application at all. Only fill out the start/end ports
#3030 [16:20] <xales> neil: Again, yes
#3031 [16:20] <BTLOTM> Okay.
#3032 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> Nitorin: that is correct.
#3033 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> er, neil.
#3034 [16:20] <BTLOTM> What ports would you suggest?
#3035 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> (sorry, Nitorin; mistab)
#3036 [16:21] <kittymadcow> ill brb and let you know if it works :)
#3037 [16:21] <mib_pdpj5l> ive been playing minecraft for ages now and all of a sudden it desides to crash and when i restart i lose all my items
#3038 [16:21] <xales> BTLOTM: Minecraft runs on port 25565 by default.
#3039 [16:21] <Nitorin> no prob
#3040 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> ??> BTLOTM smp/port
#3041 [16:21] <VoxelHead> BTLOTM: (smp/port) TCP port 25565
#3042 [16:21] <neil> thanks, sorry :)
#3043 [16:21] <xales> ??> mib_pdpj5l win/reinst
#3044 [16:21] <VoxelHead> mib_pdpj5l: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3045 [16:21] <VoxelHead> mib_pdpj5l: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3046 [16:21] <BTLOTM> So that should be both the start and end?
#3047 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> neil: no problem buddy; never hurts to ask again if you want to be certain of something involving money.
#3048 [16:21] <xales> BTLOTM: Yes.
#3049 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> BTLOTM: yes
#3050 [16:21] <BTLOTM> Okay.
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#3052 [16:22] <BTLOTM> It wants an IP Adress after that, should that be the extenral IP?
#3053 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> . o O { Dial-up? in 2011? }
#3054 [16:22] <Faxelight> hey i've got a question considering the multiplayer
#3055 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> BTLOTM: no, the internal IP probably
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#3057 [16:22] <Faxelight> i want to connect and it sais end of stream
#3058 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> Faxelight: we've got answers and often trade with a fabulous exchange rate!
#3059 [16:22] <xales> Faxelight: Try a different server
#3060 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> Faxelight: have you tried any other servers?
#3061 [16:22] <Faxelight> not yet
#3062 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> Faxelight smp/servers/specific
#3063 [16:22] <VoxelHead> Faxelight: (smp/servers/specific) Kealper would suggest smp.shadow-craft.net. Enjoy!
#3064 [16:22] <VoxelHead> not yet... net
#3065 [16:23] <Faxelight> ok i'll try
#3066 [16:23] <BTLOTM> Okay.
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#3068 [16:23] <neil> so what kind of changes are likely to be made by the final game
#3069 [16:23] <BTLOTM> I think I got it set up. Maybe
#3070 [16:24] <Kealper> ellisgeek: rawr?
#3071 [16:24] <xales> neil: We have absolutely no idea
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#3074 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> neil: Presumably more pression-based content, but the developer is playing with their cards pretty close to the vest.
#3075 [16:24] <neil> haha, do you think graphics will stay the same or not? TBH as it is, makes it unique
#3076 [16:24] <VoxelHead> I was curious to see when you'd shut up on your own... but it's been three hours now, Wug... THREE HOURS$#~£^!~£
#3077 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> neil: I don't imagine the pastiche will be changing anytime soon
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#3079 [16:25] <Morrolan> Kealper: Is AuBot your bot?
#3080 [16:25] <Faxelight> ok this one works so it might really be the server
#3081 [16:25] <BTLOTM> Okay, I'm still getting connection refused: connect.
#3082 [16:25] <kittymadcow> well,, this is embarssing
#3083 [16:25] <Morrolan> If yes, then ellisgeek was asking whether he could download it somewhere.
#3084 [16:25] <neil> whats multiplayer like? is it just the same except other players
#3085 [16:25] <DopeGhoti> pretty much, yes
#3086 [16:25] <Morrolan> And some more bugs, neil. :D
#3087 [16:25] <neil> cool!
#3088 [16:25] <VoxelHead> Coooool!
#3089 [16:25] <neil> haha
#3090 [16:26] <Kealper> Morrolan: yes, and he doesn't want it...it's extremely....not easy to run, and it's windows-only
#3091 [16:26] <Morrolan> ellisgeek: Oh, AutoIT?
#3092 [16:26] <Morrolan> Uuuh
#3093 [16:26] <Faxelight> anyone some ideas how i can fix this cause i really want to play on that specific server
#3094 [16:26] <Morrolan> Kealper I meant.
#3095 [16:26] <DopeGhoti> xales: seriously? 500 is the default buffer length? Madness! *fixes*
#3096 [16:26] <sprocket> right i have now tried everything and im gettin pissed off with mojang :( i have fully updated my java turned off my firewall created a new computer user profile ran %AppData% deleted everything but the saves and still gettin stuck on 14% while downloading the updat
#3097 [16:26] <Kealper> lowercase t, and yes :P
#3098 [16:26] <Morrolan> Kealper: Hehe. :D
#3099 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: you're tempting me to start calling it aUTOiT now.
#3100 [16:27] <kittymadcow> getting java errors when trying to update to update 25 >.>
#3101 [16:27] * Kealper keels over at the sight of that
#3101 [16:27] <BTLOTM> I've tried the port forward on both the external and internal IP, and it still seems not to work :(
#3102 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> kittymadcow: completely uninstall any old versions of Java, Reboot, and then download the lastest and do a fresh install
#3103 [16:28] <DopeGhoti> sprocket: any security or firewall software?
#3104 [16:28] <kittymadcow> narf >< this is a completely fresh install of w7 today as well its not my day
#3105 [16:28] <sprocket> got windows security and spybot but both dissabled
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#3107 [16:29] <Morrolan> BTLOTM: Could you make a screenshot of the port forwarding screen and upload it to imgur.com ?
#3108 [16:29] <udon4brkfst> last night, i did dxdiag and AGP texture acceleration was not available
#3109 [16:29] <BTLOTM> Alright, give me a moment
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#3111 [16:30] <udon4brkfst> does that mean i can't do minecraft?
#3112 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> udon4brkfst: if your GPU is on an AGP bus, you might be in trouble.
#3113 [16:31] <sprocket> any other advice then?
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#3115 [16:31] <BTLOTM> Alright, here it is Morrolan: http://imgur.com/xtTY9
#3116 [16:32] <Morrolan> BTLOTM: Put your internal IP there, not your external.
#3117 [16:32] <kittymadcow> brb again
#3118 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> sprocket: what version of Java have you got installed?
#3119 [16:32] <BTLOTM> Alright
#3120 [16:33] <sprocket> the latest one java 6 service pack 25
#3121 [16:33] <BTLOTM> Now, when the computer tries to connect, it should use the external IP?
#3122 [16:33] <udon4brkfst> how can i tell if my GPU is on a AGP bus
#3123 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> sprocket: what OS?
#3124 [16:34] <sprocket> windows 7
#3125 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> sprocket: what bit width?
#3126 [16:34] <Awesomeness> 32 or 64
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#3128 [16:34] <Awesomeness> You may have 32x Java
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#3130 [16:35] <Morrolan> BTLOTM: Yes.
#3131 [16:35] <Morrolan> Well, when other people want to connect to your server then they have to use the external IP.
#3132 [16:35] <BTLOTM> ...Holy crap.
#3133 [16:36] <BTLOTM> I think it may actually be....working.
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#3135 [16:36] <Morrolan> BTLOTM: :)
#3136 [16:36] <VoxelHead> crumbs
#3137 [16:36] <BTLOTM> Thank you so much
#3138 [16:38] <Morrolan> You're welcome, BTLOTM. :)
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#3140 [16:41] <udon4brkfst> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 6/2/2011, 16:32:19 Machine name: D-85BB8C309A2B4 Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.101209-1647) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System
#3141 [16:41] <udon4brkfst> --------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Manufacturer: Intel Corporation Chip type: Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset DAC type: Internal Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2582&SUBSYS_01C41028&REV_04 Display Memory: 128.0 MB Current Mode: 1024
#3142 [16:41] <udon4brkfst> will it work?
#3143 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> with that CPU? I'd be iffy.
#3144 [16:42] <Awesomeness> omgchipsetexpress.:(
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#3147 [16:44] <kittymadcow> yays, after much fighting with the java... everything is working again :D
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#3150 [16:45] <udon4brkfst> so, i need AGP TExture acceleration?
#3151 [16:46] <VoxelHead> mmm kittymadcow
#3152 [16:48] <Awesomeness> I'm front
#3153 [16:48] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE front? feel these nipples!
#3154 [16:48] <Awesomeness> I won't feel your nipples, voxel
#3155 [16:48] <Awesomeness> :3
#3156 [16:49] * VoxelHead whimpers
#3156 [16:49] <ellisgeek> Morrolan ya dont know autoit
#3157 [16:50] <Morrolan> ellisgeek: Well, I never did any work with it.
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#3167 [16:59] <mib_shhm5q> its says java vitual machine launcher cant work?
#3168 [17:00] <Saand> Hey there i could really use some help. I purchased minecraft yesterday and when i went to run it in browser and on my desktop i get the black window of death. I have tried all the methods mentioned on the get satisfaction forum and i have tried installing and re-installing every version of java. If anyone could help that would be awesome
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#3170 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> ??> Saand win/reinst
#3171 [17:02] <VoxelHead> Saand: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3172 [17:02] <VoxelHead> Saand: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3174 [17:03] <Saand> I have all ready done this and it does not help. I have no mods or anything, i have never even been able to start the game once.
#3175 [17:03] <mib_shhm5q> it says couldnt create java virtual machine? what do i do?
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#3177 [17:03] <semiricary> hi i need help with minecraft
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#3179 [17:03] <the_bokononist> Is there anyone out there that can help me out with buying gift codes?
#3180 [17:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> Saand win/profile
#3181 [17:04] <VoxelHead> Saand: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3182 [17:04] <VoxelHead> Saand: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3183 [17:05] <semiricary> my minecraft keep saying java(tm) platform se binary has stopped working wat does this mean help someone
#3184 [17:06] <mib_shhm5q> it says couldnt create java virtual machine? what do i do?
#3185 [17:06] <DopeGhoti> semiricary: mib_shhm5q: sounds like both of you guys need to reinstall Java possibly.
#3186 [17:07] <semiricary> k
#3187 [17:07] <semiricary> do i uninstall it
#3188 [17:07] <mib_shhm5q> i tried and i hit run on java and nothing happened.. did it work?
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#3190 [17:11] <Saand> DopeGhoti: It worked when i logged onto the other account! Do you know of a way to finagle java to work on my current account?
#3191 [17:12] <mib_shhm5q> DopeGhoti:i tried and i hit run on java and nothing happened.. did it work?
#3192 [17:12] <mib_bfjc1t> I try to run Minecraft EXE and a screen with a pattern of jumbled colors comes up. It shows a distinguishable picture when run in 256 colors, but still looks like crap. can anyone help or relate?
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#3195 [17:17] <soadkombucha> Can help me with an error occurring on both Windows and Linux when using 1.6.6 and no mods but modloader installed?
#3196 [17:18] <DopeGhoti> yes: remove the mods, including modloader, which is itself a mod.
#3197 [17:18] <soadkombucha> It runs fine without the mod.
#3198 [17:18] <soadkombucha> However, the mods I use on SMP (namely minimap) require the use of modloader.
#3199 [17:18] <soadkombucha> And I had no problems with any of the same mods on 1.5_01. I just want to know what could be causing it to crash as soon as the mod is installed.
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#3201 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> soadkombucha: Obviously, the mod is crashing it
#3202 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> ?? causality
#3203 [17:19] <VoxelHead> causality: If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#3204 [17:19] <VoxelHead> causality: Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#3205 [17:19] <soadkombucha> Well obviously.
#3206 [17:19] <soadkombucha> However, there should be a way to fix it so it no longer breaks it.
#3207 [17:20] <soadkombucha> Especially given that it's apparently only me having this issue, because otherwise Risu wouldn't have released modloader 1.6.6
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#3209 [17:20] <OrganicEvil> Hello. I've got a connection issue. I've tried to connect both wirelessly and through a wired port. Both yielded an error message stating that the game couldn't connect to minecraft.net. I've modified my firewall settings to allow Minecraft full access, and allowed the correct port. I'm running Windows Vista. If anyone has any ideas, I'd be grateful.
#3210 [17:21] <oldtopmanserver> Have you tried disabling your antivirus?
#3211 [17:21] <DopeGhoti> OrganicEvil: what is the date that your computer thinks it is?
#3212 [17:22] <OrganicEvil> June 2nd.
#3213 [17:22] <DopeGhoti> of what year?
#3214 [17:22] <OrganicEvil> 2011.
#3215 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> OrganicEvil: okay. Sometimes the date can be out-of-whack and cause that issue.
#3216 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> hmm
#3217 [17:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> OrganicEvil win/profile
#3218 [17:23] <VoxelHead> OrganicEvil: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3219 [17:23] <OrganicEvil> As for the antivirus, I believe my workarounds on that have eliminated that as the issue.
#3220 [17:23] <VoxelHead> OrganicEvil: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3221 [17:24] <OrganicEvil> Trying that now.
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#3234 [17:42] <Dunerunner> So, minecraft was working perfectly, ran really well, then I installed a few mods and it started lagging like crazy. No matter how many times I've uninstalled the mods AND minecraft, or even cleared the minecraft.jar files, the game still lags, then becomes nonresponsive and closes down
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#3237 [17:45] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Ohhai peeps
#3238 [17:46] <Dunerunner> hello :P
#3239 [17:46] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Well, I'm actually looking for a decent Map Generator, which could let you choose the size of the biomes and continents generated on the map
#3240 [17:47] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Because you don't find real oceans or real continents in vanilla Minecraft
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#3242 [17:47] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :And well, deserts and forests are quite small
#3243 [17:47] <aikaramba> and its scary to hear noises outsied
#3244 [17:48] <aikaramba> while watching utube creeper video
#3245 [17:48] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :There used to be a tool which could do that, but it seems it haven't been updated in a while
#3246 [17:48] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Sooo, any help with that would be neat !
#3247 [17:49] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Or else, if you have some decent seeds for deserts or an oceanic world
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#3249 [17:50] <Rafuros> Hey anyone know what this is : 23:47:57 [SEVERE] while parsing a block mapping in "<reader>", line 1, column 1: Users: ^ expected <block end>, but found Scalar in "<reader>", line 12, column 2: Admins ^
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#3251 [17:51] <Dunerunner> Sorry, but I don't. Everytime I use a seed I get giant lush forest worlds, but you can try using the seed , Pandora, that gave me a large ocean and some pretty neat cliffs and such.
#3252 [17:52] <VoxelHead> bye rafuros
#3253 [17:52] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Aye, thanks
#3254 [17:53] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Ideally I'd love more water than ground, if I generate an oceanic world
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#3256 [17:54] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Just some archipelagos here and there, rarely a medium sized island
#3257 [17:54] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp ::p
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#3259 [17:55] <VoxelHead> so, like, mmm kevinsweijen
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#3263 [18:02] <Morrolan> BlackGyver: Hmm, there was a mod which modified the terrain generation once, let me try to find it. :/
#3264 [18:02] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :BiomeTerrainMod, right ?
#3265 [18:03] <Morrolan> Hmm, sounds about right, yes.
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#3268 [18:03] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :(And later on, PhoenixTerrainMod)
#3269 [18:03] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :It stopped at 1.5 :c
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#3271 [18:04] <asdf79> hi
#3272 [18:04] <Morrolan> hey asdf79
#3273 [18:04] <asdf79> Does anyone know if its possible to change my minecraft username?
#3274 [18:04] <Morrolan> Yes, you can't at the moment.
#3275 [18:04] <asdf79> that sucks
#3276 [18:04] <Morrolan> BlackGyver: Hmm, shame.
#3277 [18:05] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Yeah well, you're not alone asdf79 ;p
#3278 [18:05] <asdf79> I used my RL name, not thinking that it would make a difference.
#3279 [18:05] <Morrolan> asdf79: Many people do so, there should be a warning somewhere. :/
#3280 [18:05] <asdf79> kinda ruins my plans to join a server
#3281 [18:05] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Morrolan, yeah, this mod has been abandoned and then brought back to life 2 or 3 times
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#3283 [18:05] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :And now it's being abandoned again
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#3285 [18:06] <asdf79> ah well, thanks letting me now.
#3286 [18:06] <Morrolan> BlackGyver: Hmm, does the guy who has been maintaining it until now say that he won't update it anymore?
#3287 [18:06] <Morrolan> did*
#3288 [18:07] <Morrolan> Apart from that, you could ask in #risucraft . Maybe one of them is interested in taking over the mod, or they know of an alternate one.
#3289 [18:08] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Well, don't know, the last time I checked, some random guy payed a programmer to bring BTM back to life, so the dude was taking that pretty seriously, and keeping it up to date
#3290 [18:08] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok.
#3291 [18:08] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :And it seems it died again, and another one brought it back to life
#3292 [18:09] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :And now it just stopped at 1.5, without any visible explanation
#3293 [18:09] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Thanks for the advice, I'll ask em
#3294 [18:09] <Morrolan> Sure thing. :)
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#3296 [18:17] <Morrolan> BlackGyver: Also, you might have to ask several times, it's quite hectic in there most of the time. :D
#3297 [18:17] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Yeah, see that
#3298 [18:17] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I'll be lucky if someone even looks at my question
#3299 [18:17] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:50e0:5eb4:88b5:f4e5 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp ::p
#3300 [18:18] <Morrolan> ^^
#3301 [18:18] <VoxelHead> :-)
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#3303 [18:23] <Jonnynorway> i bought minecraft like 5-6 hours ago and i never got premium status thing, and i came here and someone told me i needed to wait but i waited for a long time.. please help is it really that i have to wait beacause my friends got it straight away.
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#3306 [18:24] <Morrolan> Jonnynorway: It can take up to 24 hours for the payment to get processed.
#3307 [18:24] <Jonnynorway> ohh :(
#3308 [18:24] <Jonnynorway> i wanted to play it so bad lol
#3309 [18:24] <Morrolan> ^^
#3310 [18:24] <VoxelHead> :o)
#3311 [18:25] <WildcardZer0> hello
#3312 [18:26] <WildcardZer0> i've got a problem with my 1.6 update and was hoping someone could help
#3313 [18:26] <Morrolan> WildcardZer0: Could you explain a bit?
#3314 [18:27] <Jonnynorway> i dont think the support for minecraft.net was that good didnt help me at all, but thanks for the help here guys!
#3315 [18:27] <WildcardZer0> yes when i tried updating it said it could not access the appdata/.minecraft/bin/version folder
#3316 [18:27] <Morrolan> Jonnynorway: If it still won't work after 24 hours you can use the support page at minecraft.net/support
#3317 [18:27] <Morrolan> WildcardZer0: Windows?
#3318 [18:28] <WildcardZer0> i couldnt find anything there either, yes vista
#3319 [18:28] <Morrolan> ??> WildcardZer0 win/reinst
#3320 [18:28] <VoxelHead> WildcardZer0: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3321 [18:28] <WildcardZer0> i even uncheck the hidden box if that had anything to do with it
#3322 [18:28] <VoxelHead> WildcardZer0: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3323 [18:28] <Morrolan> WildcardZer0: The thing with the support page was directed at another guy. ;)
#3324 [18:29] <Morrolan> Follow the instructions Vox gave you for now. :)
#3325 [18:29] <WildcardZer0> lol i meant i looked in the folder i mentioned
#3326 [18:29] <Morrolan> Ah. :D
#3327 [18:29] <WildcardZer0> yeah ill give it a try thank you
#3328 [18:29] <Morrolan> Sure thing, just tell us if it didn't work. :)
#3329 [18:30] <VoxelHead> i like them -_-
#3330 [18:32] <WildcardZer0> ok, uhm just one more thing. im kind of computer illiterate... but basically i go into the .minecraft folder and delete everything but my saves?
#3331 [18:32] <Morrolan> Yep
#3332 [18:32] <WildcardZer0> ok ty
#3333 [18:32] <Morrolan> Everything but the saves folder.
#3334 [18:33] <WildcardZer0> am i able to keep my screenshots too? or do those need to be deleted as well
#3335 [18:33] <ellisgeek> ya but if you cant find .minecraft substitute %appdata% for %appdata%\.minecraft
#3336 [18:33] <Morrolan> WildcardZer0: Yep, you can keep these as well.
#3337 [18:34] <WildcardZer0> i unhid my minecraft stuff to be able to download texture packs so i already know where the folder is and can access it just by going through my start bar
#3338 [18:35] <WildcardZer0> ok clearing out the folder now, thanks all ill let you know what happens
#3339 [18:35] <Morrolan> Ok. :)
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#3341 [18:39] <WildcardZer0> ok good it worked, looks like it reset all my achievements and settings though
#3342 [18:40] <WildcardZer0> thank you guys i appreciate the help
#3343 [18:40] <Morrolan> You're welcome. :)
#3344 [18:40] <WildcardZer0> have a good one alright
#3345 [18:40] <Morrolan> And yea, sorry about the achievements. Sadly they're only stored locally at the moment.
#3346 [18:40] <Morrolan> You too. :)
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#3350 [18:44] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go =O.
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#3352 [18:46] <mib_z44p22> hello
#3353 [18:47] <nastala> i need some help
#3354 [18:47] <oldtopmanserver> no kidding
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#3356 [18:47] <claude> hello
#3357 [18:48] <nastala> i bought the game but it wont send an email to me or even let me play
#3358 [18:48] <nastala> wats the problam
#3359 [18:49] <claude> i played the old ver and i saved a world but then the screen went black and i cant access it
#3360 [18:50] <nastala> have u tryed restarting the computure
#3361 [18:50] <claude> yup
#3362 [18:50] <nastala> hmmm
#3363 [18:51] <nastala> try loging out and play it
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#3365 [18:52] <claude> hello
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#3369 [18:55] <mudpit> i bought minecraft and i waited like an hour and i still cant play
#3370 [18:55] <mudpit> it says user not premium
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#3372 [18:57] <darthscofield> hey
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#3374 [18:58] <mr_sticky> hello
#3375 [18:58] <darthscofield> hows it going?
#3376 [18:59] <mr_sticky> bad i cant access the old game i saved a world and it crashed i cant get back in
#3377 [18:59] <darthscofield> ahh i see
#3378 [18:59] <darthscofield> i cant even download it
#3379 [18:59] <darthscofield> pretty sad
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#3381 [19:01] <mib_zm2yop> hello?
#3382 [19:02] <darthscofield> sup
#3383 [19:02] <mib_zm2yop> how are you?
#3384 [19:02] <darthscofield> pretty good
#3385 [19:02] <darthscofield> tryin to get minecraft to work but its all good
#3386 [19:02] <mib_zm2yop> yeah me 2
#3387 [19:03] <mib_zm2yop> what is wrong with yours?
#3388 [19:03] <darthscofield> can't download on this laptop
#3389 [19:03] <mib_zm2yop> oh, well if it doeasnt work you might want to try downloading the jar. version
#3390 [19:04] <darthscofield> how would you do that?
#3391 [19:04] <darthscofield> sorry.. im blonde
#3392 [19:04] <darthscofield> all it really says it that the publisher couldnt be found
#3393 [19:05] <mib_zm2yop> haha, well usualy when it says that you have to just click run
#3394 [19:05] <VoxelHead> Well, thankfully I was able to reprogram those cyborgs at the last minute, and send them off to do HORRIBLE THINGS to the humans.
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#3397 [19:06] <sluggo> hello
#3398 [19:07] <sluggo> can you help me?
#3399 [19:08] <sluggo> hello?
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#3402 [19:09] <kalexanderr> hello?
#3403 [19:09] <VoxelHead> SNAP!
#3404 [19:09] <kalexanderr> what?
#3405 [19:10] <kalexanderr> can someone help me?
#3406 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> not if you don't tell us what the matter is.
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#3409 [19:12] <kalexanderr> well i got a minecraft texture pack and put it in the texture pack folder but now it isnt working like when i try and go on it says "Minecraft has Crashed" then the screen goes black
#3410 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> kalexanderr causality
#3411 [19:12] <VoxelHead> kalexanderr: (causality) If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#3412 [19:12] <VoxelHead> kalexanderr: (causality) Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
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#3414 [19:14] <kalexanderr> i am on Windows XP, and i dont know how to undo things on it
#3415 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> ??> kalexanderr win/reinst
#3416 [19:14] <VoxelHead> kalexanderr: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3417 [19:14] <VoxelHead> kalexanderr: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3418 [19:15] <kalexanderr> okay thanks but how do i get the Windows+R key thing open?
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#3421 [19:16] <Triggerdusk> hey how do i find my ip address that will let someone play on my server?
#3422 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> ??> Triggerdusk ip/external
#3423 [19:16] <VoxelHead> Triggerdusk: (ip/external) Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#3424 [19:17] <mib_sm2adw> i try to play the free in brawser game untill i get the real game tomorow and it tells me eror pixel format not exelarated
#3425 [19:18] <Triggerdusk> thanks voxel
#3426 [19:18] <kalexanderr> VoxelHead: what are the Windows+R keys?
#3427 [19:18] <Triggerdusk> lol moanmyip
#3428 [19:18] <VoxelHead> No biggie.
#3429 [19:18] <VoxelHead> Cold.
#3430 [19:18] <mib_sm2adw> i try to play the free in brawser game untill i get the real game tomorow and it tells me eror pixel format not exelarated
#3431 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> ??> kalexanderr win/key
#3432 [19:20] <VoxelHead> kalexanderr: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#3433 [19:20] <mib_sm2adw> i try to play the free in brawser game untill i get the real game tomorow and it tells me eror pixel format not exelarated
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#3435 [19:20] <kalexanderr> oh okay thanks!
#3436 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_sm2adw gpu/update
#3437 [19:20] <bugweiser> hello?
#3438 [19:20] <bugweiser> hi?
#3439 [19:20] <VoxelHead> mib_sm2adw: (gpu/update) You probably need to update your video drivers. See gpu/amd, gpu/intel, or gpu/nvidia for links to their respective driver download pages.
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#3441 [19:20] <Lightningnose> is anyone here that is a staff member of minecraft?
#3442 [19:21] <madmatmax> Hello !
#3443 [19:21] <Lightningnose> HELLO ANYONE
#3444 [19:21] <Lightningnose> I NEED HELP
#3445 [19:21] <mib_sm2adw> k
#3446 [19:21] <madmatmax> I'm looking for an expert in redstone circuit theory :p
#3447 [19:21] <Lightningnose> so, over an hour ago, i purchased the premium account
#3448 [19:21] <Lightningnose> cuz i got an american express gift card
#3449 [19:21] <Lightningnose> it kept rejecting it
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#3451 [19:21] <Lightningnose> then it rejected it, but it randomly changed to 'transaction complete!'
#3452 [19:22] <Lightningnose> it's been over an hour
#3453 [19:22] <Lightningnose> but it hasn't upgraded my status to premium
#3454 [19:22] <Lightningnose> so i don't know what to do
#3455 [19:22] <Lightningnose> anyone
#3456 [19:22] <Lightningnose> ???
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#3458 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> Lightningnose prepaid
#3459 [19:23] <VoxelHead> Lightningnose: (prepaid) Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
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#3461 [19:23] <Lightningnose> what?
#3462 [19:23] <Lightningnose> i just paid for it, and i should be able to login on the app
#3463 [19:23] <Lightningnose> but it own't let me
#3464 [19:23] <mib_glxtrt> can you help me with a problem?
#3465 [19:23] <Lightningnose> it keeps saying 'user not premium'
#3466 [19:23] <Lightningnose> prob not
#3467 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> Check your card's balance
#3468 [19:23] <Lightningnose> i'm not good at minecraft
#3469 [19:23] <mcpenpal> i just got minecraft today and i go to play and it wont let me break anything
#3470 [19:23] <Lightningnose> my card is a gift card
#3471 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> you probably do not have the monies withdrawn.
#3472 [19:23] <Lightningnose> hmm
#3473 [19:23] <Lightningnose> where do i check the card balance?
#3474 [19:24] <mcpenpal> it weird
#3475 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> call the number on the back of the card.
#3476 [19:24] <Lightningnose> ummmm
#3477 [19:24] <Lightningnose> ok
#3478 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> ??> mcpenpal smp/spawnzone
#3479 [19:24] <mib_glxtrt> can anyone help?
#3480 [19:24] <VoxelHead> mcpenpal: (smp/spawnzone) The spawn zone is, as a way to avoid griefing, protected from any changes by any users who are not administrators. Try moving away from the spawn area.
#3481 [19:24] <VoxelHead> mcpenpal: (smp/spawnzone) If you are the server admin, see smp/opyourself
#3482 [19:24] <Lightningnose> lemme go check
#3483 [19:24] <Lightningnose> brb
#3484 [19:24] <mcpenpal> k
#3485 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> mib_glxtrt: not if you don't tell us what the problem is.
#3486 [19:24] <Lightningnose> my mom's calling right now
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#3488 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> wait, mcpenpal: is this single-player?
#3489 [19:25] <mcpenpal> yes
#3490 [19:25] <kalexanderr> hey voxel im back
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#3492 [19:25] <Lightningnose> wait what does the star next to the username in the chatlist mean?
#3493 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> ??> mcpenpal dontclick
#3494 [19:25] <VoxelHead> mcpenpal: (dontclick) You will have better luck holding down the mouse button. Clicking is for instant interactions like placing blocks and flipping switches. To mine, chop wood, or dig; hold down the mouse button.
#3495 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> Lightningnose: channel operator.
#3496 [19:25] <madmatmax> Ok, if I build a hypothetical infinite redstone wire (with repeater every 15 block), I put my self at the begining and push the button. Where does the signal stop ?
#3497 [19:25] <pudgetta> does anyone know how to install the game after u bought it
#3498 [19:25] <Lightningnose> oh k thanks dopeghoti
#3499 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> madmatmax: IIRC, about 200 blocks from you
#3500 [19:25] <mib_sm2adw> gpu/update) You probably need to update your video drivers. See gpu/amd, gpu/intel, or gpu/nvidia for links to their respective driver download pages.
#3501 [19:25] <mib_sm2adw> but i alredy updated
#3502 [19:25] <mib_sm2adw> i try to play the free in brawser game untill i get the real game tomorow and it tells me eror pixel format not exelarated
#3503 [19:25] <mcpenpal> ill try it
#3504 [19:26] <mib_glxtrt> haha ok, i bought minecraft about a month ago. i havent played for a little while. so i went on to minecraft, tried to sighn in and it said cant connect to minecraft server and at the bottom in parentheses it said (not downloaded)
#3505 [19:26] <Lightningnose> WHY DOES 'it' keep going faded
#3506 [19:26] <kalexanderr> VoxelHead: what you said didnt work, i held down the windows button and typed %appdata% and it did nothing
#3507 [19:26] <Lightningnose> it's annoying meeee
#3508 [19:26] <Lightningnose> OOOH it didn't withdrawl
#3509 [19:26] <Lightningnose> oooh alright
#3510 [19:26] <madmatmax> DopeGhoti: Then, If I walk along this line, is it gonna be going on or is it lost ?
#3511 [19:26] <Lightningnose> DopeGhoti: should I try again? because it wasn't going for a few times
#3512 [19:27] <Lightningnose> ahh i'll try with a different one
#3513 [19:27] <Lightningnose> thanks bye
#3514 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> madmatmax: I think it'll keep going.
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#3516 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> Lightningnose: don't use a prepaid card
#3517 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> they generally can't do international transactions
#3518 [19:27] <mib_glxtrt> haha ok, i bought minecraft about a month ago. i havent played for a little while. so i went on to minecraft, tried to sighn in and it said cant connect to minecraft server and at the bottom in parentheses it said (not downloaded)
#3519 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> mib_glxtrt: Try playing once in-browser
#3520 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> rather than the downloaded client.
#3521 [19:28] <mib_glxtrt> when i try in browser firefox crashes. im on a mac btw
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#3523 [19:28] <madmatmax> I'd like to send an information from a main station to others stations along my railway so I could choose where I want my cart stops
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#3525 [19:28] <Lightningnose> DopeGhoti: my mom wants to know if it'll withdraw twice if I do it again
#3526 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> Lightningnose: it should not. If it does, you can get one of the charges reversed.
#3527 [19:29] <Lightningnose> but the thing said there was no refunds
#3528 [19:29] <Lightningnose> and i shouldn't use a gift card?
#3529 [19:29] <mib_sm2adw> i did yesterday
#3530 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> ?? prepaid
#3531 [19:29] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#3532 [19:29] * DopeGhoti points up
#3532 [19:29] <Lightningnose> oooooooo ok
#3533 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_glxtrt mac/reinst
#3534 [19:30] <VoxelHead> mib_glxtrt: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3535 [19:30] <VoxelHead> mib_glxtrt: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3536 [19:30] <Lightningnose> YAY my mom's gonna get her credit card then
#3537 [19:30] <Lightningnose> thanks guys
#3538 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> cheers, Lightningnose
#3539 [19:30] <Lightningnose> PS for any atmosphir guys, i'm Soccerstar! :P
#3540 [19:30] <Lightningnose> kbai
#3541 [19:30] <madmatmax> Soccerstar...
#3542 [19:30] <mib_sm2adw> i try to play the free in brawser game untill i get the real game tomorow and it tells me eror pixel format not exelarated
#3543 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Update. Your. Video. Drivers.
#3544 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> and not from WindowsUpdate
#3545 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> from the GPU's chipset's site.
#3546 [19:31] <mib_sm2adw> i did
#3547 [19:32] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go ),:
#3548 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_sm2adw win/dxdiag
#3549 [19:32] <VoxelHead> mib_sm2adw: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3550 [19:32] <VoxelHead> mib_sm2adw: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3551 [19:34] <mib_glxtrt> i deleted everything in the minecraft folder. everything. i try to run it and it doesnt work
#3552 [19:37] <mib_glxtrt> i deleted everything in the minecraft folder. everything. i try to run it and it doesnt work
#3553 [19:37] <mib_glxtrt> the same problem
#3554 [19:38] <mib_sm2adw> here it is
#3555 [19:38] <mib_sm2adw> http://pastebin.com/Lk0dDKUJ
#3556 [19:41] <mib_glxtrt> can anyone help
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#3561 [19:51] <mib_n919el> i have a pproblem
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#3563 [19:52] <mib_q5cbzn> every time i try to open mine craft it crashes right after the mojang title, it started happening after i installed a realism texture pack, please help
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#3565 [19:53] <K4> hello can someone help me with an installation problem im new
#3566 [19:53] <mib_n919el> haha i try to login to minecraft on mac. it says cant connect to minecraft.net at the bottom in parentheses it says not downloaded. ive tried playing in browser and it crashes for fire fox. i deleted everything in the minecraft folder. i bought the game. how do i fix this?
#3567 [19:53] <VoxelHead> evaluation: PATHETIC#**£%percent#
#3568 [19:54] <K4> for me it keeps saying CANNOT CREATE JAVA VIRTUAL MACHINE and i installed it like 7 times
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#3570 [19:55] <justin> haha i try to login to minecraft on mac. it says cant connect to minecraft.net at the bottom in parentheses it says not downloaded. ive tried playing in browser and it crashes for fire fox. i deleted everything in the minecraft folder. i bought the game. how do i fix this?
#3571 [19:55] <VoxelHead> i have already stuffed my normal human belly with delicious human filth that i could not eat another bite
#3572 [19:55] <mib_q5cbzn> ok?
#3573 [19:56] <K4> what the ****
#3574 [19:57] <mib_q5cbzn> so how do we get our problems fixed
#3575 [19:57] <K4> can yo mib can you help me with the java virtual machine?
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#3577 [20:00] <justin> haha i try to login to minecraft on mac. it says cant connect to minecraft.net at the bottom in parentheses it says not downloaded. ive tried playing in browser and it crashes for fire fox. i deleted everything in the minecraft folder. i bought the game. how do i fix this?
#3578 [20:00] <VoxelHead> Stay right there... we're sending someone over to beat you up for playing jokes on the FBI!
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#3581 [20:02] <Eugene> Vox, i missed you
#3582 [20:02] <justin> haha i try to login to minecraft on mac. it says cant connect to minecraft.net at the bottom in parentheses it says not downloaded. ive tried playing in browser and it crashes for fire fox. i deleted everything in the minecraft folder. i bought the game. how do i fix this?
#3583 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> justin mac/profile
#3584 [20:04] <VoxelHead> justin: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3585 [20:04] <VoxelHead> justin: (mac/profile) Please create a new user profile, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#3589 [20:06] <supertux> hei
#3590 [20:07] <justin> i tried to create an account and launch minecraft. same problem. but ive played minecraft before! same account. same computer. it just stopped working
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#3592 [20:07] <calatalee> hello?
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#3594 [20:08] <calatalee> i need help
#3595 [20:08] <supertux> i need help 2
#3596 [20:08] <calatalee> my minecraft crashed and support sent me here
#3597 [20:09] <calatalee> is anyone there that can help me
#3598 [20:09] <calatalee> ???
#3599 [20:11] <supertux> when I try to download minecraft i need to log in but i only get "can`t connect to minecraft.net"
#3600 [20:11] <supertux> and I bought it today :(
#3601 [20:12] <Hellfia1993> super
#3602 [20:12] <Hellfia1993> redowload client.
#3603 [20:13] <supertux> have tried to download it many times but the same error same time
#3604 [20:14] <xales> supertux: Try playing at minecraft.net
#3605 [20:15] <supertux> the download`s freezes when I try it on minecraft.net
#3606 [20:16] <xales> ??> supertux win/reinst
#3607 [20:16] <VoxelHead> supertux: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3608 [20:16] <VoxelHead> supertux: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3610 [20:18] <Boreeas> Say, why are the payment methods oher than PayPal so expensive?
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#3612 [20:20] <M00Nbarker> So how do I get help?
#3613 [20:20] <xales> Uh, you say what the problem is and we attempt to fix it?
#3614 [20:20] <M00Nbarker> Ok when I open Minecraft I don't get anything on the menu, just the dirt backround
#3615 [20:21] <xales> What OS? Windows?
#3616 [20:21] <M00Nbarker> windows
#3617 [20:21] <xales> ??> M00Nbarker win/reinst
#3618 [20:21] <VoxelHead> M00Nbarker: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3619 [20:21] <VoxelHead> M00Nbarker: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3622 [20:23] <M00Nbarker> That worked, thanks a bunch!
#3623 [20:23] <xales> np
#3624 [20:25] <supertux> done loading but nothing happens on minecraft.net
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#3627 [20:28] <xales> supertux: Did you purchase Minecraft?
#3628 [20:29] <curmet> i just bought minecraft on my mac and downloaded it when i try to log in, it says its not downloaded what do i do?
#3629 [20:29] <xales> curmet: Your account has either not been marked premium yet or you are entering your username or password incorrectly
#3630 [20:30] <curmet> so if it hasnt been marked yet do i just wait?
#3631 [20:30] <oldtopman> yes
#3632 [20:30] <xales> Yes
#3633 [20:30] <curmet> how long does it usually take
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#3635 [20:31] <Vert> So, I can't craft Glowstone blocks in SMP.
#3636 [20:31] <xales> The recipe changed
#3637 [20:32] <Vert> to 2x2 I know.
#3638 [20:32] <xales> Is the server running 1.6.6?
#3639 [20:32] <Vert> I think so. How do I check server version?
#3640 [20:33] <xales> It will say when you start it
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#3643 [20:33] <mib_br9to1> Hello?
#3644 [20:34] <mib_br9to1> I need help!
#3645 [20:34] <supertux> purchase it today
#3646 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_br9to1 ask
#3647 [20:34] <VoxelHead> mib_br9to1: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3648 [20:34] <VoxelHead> mib_br9to1: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3649 [20:34] <xales> supertux: Did you "try" Minecraft for free before you bought it? (And not the free Classic version on minecraft.net)
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#3651 [20:35] <mib_br9to1> Okay, I bought Minecraft and tried to run it, but it says all this stuff about "ALLOW ACCESS"
#3652 [20:35] <mib_br9to1> i DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!
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#3654 [20:35] <xales> Well, you could stop shouting and using excessive punctuation
#3655 [20:36] <supertux> yess
#3656 [20:36] <mib_br9to1> im 14 and frustrated
#3657 [20:36] <xales> And then you could try running Minecraft, and it asks you to allow access, then you say "yes"
#3658 [20:36] <mib_br9to1> okay?!?!?
#3659 [20:36] <Vert> xales: Yea, server was on 1.6.5 i've updated and it works now. Thanks!
#3660 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> Vert: \o/
#3661 [20:37] <mib_br9to1> I SAY YES! BUT THEN IT GOES TO A WHITE SCREEN WHERE THE GAME SHOULD BE!!! HELP ME PLEEEASE!!
#3662 [20:37] <xales> Nobody here will help you if you type like that
#3663 [20:37] <mib_br9to1> My friend works for the site
#3664 [20:38] <xales> Um, what?
#3665 [20:38] <mib_br9to1> i'm sorry I typed like that. Okay?
#3666 [20:38] <xales> Anyway
#3667 [20:38] <xales> Are you trying to download it, or trying to play in your browser?
#3668 [20:38] <mib_br9to1> I tried both,
#3669 [20:38] <xales> And what happens when you try to run the download?
#3670 [20:39] <mib_br9to1> but the download just takes me to Microsoft entourage
#3671 [20:39] <xales> So I take it you are using a Mac, then?
#3672 [20:39] <mib_br9to1> Yes! Sorry that I left that part out!
#3673 [20:40] <madalynn> is a supporter present ?
#3674 [20:40] <mib_br9to1> xales???
#3675 [20:40] <mib_br9to1> Helloooo?
#3676 [20:40] <xales> madalynn: It is community run support. Everyone is a "supporter"
#3677 [20:40] <xales> ??> mib_br9to1 patience
#3678 [20:40] <VoxelHead> mib_br9to1: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
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#3680 [20:40] <VoxelHead> mib_br9to1: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#3681 [20:41] <madalynn> aso
#3682 [20:41] <mib_br9to1> What should I do?
#3683 [20:41] <xales> mib_br9to1: Anyway. Please download the client from this link:
#3684 [20:41] <xales> !client
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#3686 [20:41] <madalynn> yes because I bought mine Craft spieln but I can not!
#3687 [20:42] <mib_br9to1> IT WORKED!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
#3688 [20:42] <mib_br9to1> YOU GUYS FRICKEN ROCK!
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#3692 [20:54] <noshame42> i just paid for my son to play the minecraft game yet when he goes to sign on it says not a premium we need some help here people,,
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#3695 [20:54] <mr_boo> i neeed help
#3696 [20:55] <mr_boo> i keep getting hs err
#3697 [20:56] <oldtopman> noshame42: First, you come on as a bit demandy. Second, how long has it been since you purchesed
#3698 [20:57] <noshame42> about an hour and dont take it as demandy look at it as a case of confusion
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#3700 [20:57] <Mash> GreyVulpine
#3701 [20:58] <mr_boo> oh sorry i got a new computer and tried redownloading it
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#3703 [20:58] <mr_boo> but everytime i click play offlune it crashes
#3704 [20:59] <oldtopman> noshame42: Did they charge your card?
#3705 [21:00] <noshame42> yes they did .
#3706 [21:00] <Coll> hey I need a trap schematic so i can collect monster drops
#3707 [21:02] <noshame42> is there a phone number that i can call and speak to a rep ?
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#3709 [21:03] <Shrmn> Having some black screen issues in xp. Tried everything I can find on forums. Any ideas?
#3710 [21:04] <mr_boo> can someone ssit me?
#3711 [21:06] <lemon-rev> mr_boo have yuo gotten minecraft to download files from minecraft.net on your first attempt or can you force an update
#3712 [21:06] <lemon-rev> ?
#3713 [21:07] <Shrmn> Ive tried force update, hasnt fixed anything
#3714 [21:07] <lemon-rev> shrmn redownload java java.com
#3715 [21:07] <Shrmn> Also tried deleting bin and .minecraft folder, uninstalling java, restarting, then reinstalling
#3716 [21:07] <Shrmn> Nothing seems to work
#3717 [21:07] <mr_boo> i cant update it almost finishes and then ccloses
#3718 [21:08] <lemon-rev> shrmn have you deleted your java directory and reinstalled it that way ?
#3719 [21:08] <Shrmn> I used remove programs
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#3721 [21:08] <lemon-rev> hm
#3722 [21:08] <Shrmn> add/remove*
#3723 [21:09] <lemon-rev> ok
#3724 [21:09] <lemon-rev> give me tick
#3725 [21:09] <lemon-rev> trying to check with my sys so i can tell you just drives not kicking in lol
#3726 [21:10] <Shrmn> If it helps, I actually just reinstalled my os due to some glitchy problems I was having so all drivers are fresh installed as well as windows updates
#3727 [21:10] <Coll> anyone?
#3728 [21:10] <Shrmn> ?
#3729 [21:10] <lemon-rev> shrmn are your grpahics up todate and if so can you do
#3730 [21:11] <lemon-rev> ??> shrmn win/dxdiag
#3731 [21:11] <VoxelHead> shrmn: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3732 [21:11] <VoxelHead> shrmn: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3733 [21:11] <mib_bnibpl> it said "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers". how do I do that?
#3734 [21:11] <lemon-rev> coll try another channel we not into mods here sorry
#3735 [21:11] <Shrmn> Mib, drivers are updated by going to your video manufacturers website
#3736 [21:12] <Coll> it isnt a mod lemon
#3737 [21:12] <Coll> -_-
#3738 [21:12] <Shrmn> Ok lemon, give me sec
#3739 [21:12] <VoxelHead> :)
#3740 [21:12] <Coll> it is a building you build in minecraft to collect monsters and kill them so you can collect their drops
#3741 [21:12] <lemon-rev> your talking about traps and mob spawners
#3742 [21:12] <lemon-rev> hm
#3743 [21:12] <Coll> not a mob spanwer as I want all monsters not a certain kind
#3744 [21:13] <lemon-rev> coll only thing i would surgest is goto minecraft fourms and seeing if they have something your looking for
#3745 [21:13] <Coll> I want too but it is large
#3746 [21:13] <Coll> and for some reason search still doesnt work
#3747 [21:13] <lemon-rev> hm,
#3748 [21:13] <lemon-rev> well cant help
#3749 [21:13] <Coll> or maybe not
#3750 [21:13] <Coll> hold on
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#3753 [21:14] <Shrmn> Ok here we are dxdiag http://pastebin.com/wiKkcAtv
#3754 [21:15] <ubergknight> having problem, windows 7, got kicked from community minecraft server. Multiple Errors: Lost stream, connection fail, bad login, etc. Cannot log back into server. Tried reinstalling, clearing files, running in browser, nothing helped. Ideas?
#3755 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> ubergknight: did you try any other servers?
#3756 [21:15] <lemon-rev> shrmn Realtek HD Audio see if theres a recent update other from 2005 yea,
#3757 [21:15] <ubergknight> no I tried starting up single player game which worked, but I couldn't connect with my firewall and virus turned off
#3758 [21:16] <Shrmn> Ok will do. Thats just the driver windows dled in updates
#3759 [21:17] <lemon-rev> i see
#3760 [21:18] <Shrmn> Being that its onboard audio, what would be the easiest way to find drivers specific to mine?
#3761 [21:18] <ubergknight> dopeGhoti: yes I can connect to other servers.
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#3763 [21:20] <DopeGhoti> ubergknight: then it's a problem with hte server.
#3764 [21:20] <lemon-rev> shrmn http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/ < you could try that
#3765 [21:21] <Coll> I cant find it
#3766 [21:21] <ubergknight> DopeGhoti: I understand what you are saying, but it seems like other people can still connect to it, but I guess we'll try troubleshooting that way.
#3767 [21:21] <Coll> there was one good one of the forums but I cant find it now
#3768 [21:22] <oldtopman> ubergknight: What is the IP?
#3769 [21:22] * oldtopman i swilling to check
#3769 [21:22] <oldtopman> is*
#3770 [21:24] <ubergknight> 69.197.190.118:25565 lol don't destroy anything
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#3774 [21:26] <SweetCheeks> hey guys
#3775 [21:26] <SweetCheeks> Anyone there?
#3776 [21:26] <xales> Nope. We are all robots
#3777 [21:27] <SweetCheeks> don't have to be sarcastiv
#3778 [21:27] <SweetCheeks> *sarcastic
#3779 [21:27] <SweetCheeks> can some one help me with this modloader stuff
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#3781 [21:28] <xales> As the topic suggests, we are not able to help you with mods
#3782 [21:28] <xales> Try #risucraft for that
#3783 [21:28] <SweetCheeks> k ty
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#3785 [21:29] <Shrmn2> Ok updated sound drivers, here is new dxdiag http://pastebin.com/LM0F6HQi
#3786 [21:29] <Shrmn2> Still no luck
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#3788 [21:32] <Shrmn2> Any other ideas Lemon-rev or Voxel?
#3789 [21:32] <VoxelHead> You can lead a horse to water, but you are the one asking all the stupid questions!
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#3791 [21:33] <Guest10910> it ses my password is wrong i no its not so i did the email thing and it ses it sent it to my account but i got know emaill
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#3793 [21:34] <gary01> it wont let me instal minecraft says the publisher is unknown so it dosnt install
#3794 [21:34] <Guest10910> ?
#3795 [21:34] <xales> gary01: Are you trying to run it in your browser?
#3796 [21:34] <xales> Guest10910: Your command of the English language is abhorrent
#3797 [21:34] <gary01> no
#3798 [21:34] <gary01> i brought the game and im trying to download i
#3799 [21:34] <gary01> it*
#3800 [21:34] <Guest10910> hello?
#3801 [21:34] <xales> Are you using Internet Explorer?
#3802 [21:35] <xales> ??> Guest10910 account
#3803 [21:35] <VoxelHead> Guest10910: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#3804 [21:35] <VoxelHead> Guest10910: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#3805 [21:35] <gary01> yer i am using interntet explorer
#3806 [21:35] <Guest10910> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????
#3807 [21:35] * xales kicked Guest10910 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: The stupidity of some blows my mind)
#3808 [21:36] <xales> gary01: That is likely the issue
#3809 [21:36] <xales> try using a real browser (aka, not Internet Explorer)
#3810 [21:36] <gary01> ok what should i use
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#3812 [21:36] <gary01> chrome>
#3813 [21:36] <xales> Firefox, Chromium....
#3814 [21:36] <xales> anything else
#3815 [21:36] <gary01> ok
#3816 [21:37] <Shrmn2> xales any ideas on a black screen issue?
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#3818 [21:38] <xales> ??> Shrmn2 win/reinst
#3819 [21:38] <VoxelHead> Shrmn2: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3820 [21:38] <VoxelHead> Shrmn2: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3821 [21:39] <Shrmn2> Thanks Voxel, but have tried that multiple ways
#3822 [21:39] <xales> ?? bot
#3823 [21:39] <VoxelHead> bot: Yes, I'm a bot.
#3824 [21:39] <Shrmn2> from deleting select files to entire .minecraft folder
#3825 [21:39] <Shrmn2> Hmm
#3826 [21:39] <xales> Try making a new user account on your computer
#3827 [21:39] <xales> (not a Minecraft account, but a system user)
#3828 [21:39] <xales> and playing under that
#3829 [21:40] <Shrmn2> Hmm.....worth a shot but not sure how that would change anything
#3830 [21:40] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =[
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#3832 [21:42] <mib_vudmtg> hi?
#3833 [21:42] <xales> Hello.
#3834 [21:43] <mib_vudmtg> I have a problem with minecraft
#3835 [21:43] <xales> Care to elaborate?
#3836 [21:43] <mib_vudmtg> when im playing online
#3837 [21:44] <mib_vudmtg> the conection whit the server stay 5 seconds
#3838 [21:44] <mib_vudmtg> and
#3839 [21:44] <mib_vudmtg> sadi
#3840 [21:44] <mib_vudmtg> said
#3841 [21:44] <mib_vudmtg> conecction lost
#3842 [21:44] <xales> Have you tried more than one server?
#3843 [21:45] <mib_vudmtg> internal exception: java.net.socket Timeoutexception: read time out
#3844 [21:45] <mib_vudmtg> that said
#3845 [21:45] <mib_vudmtg> yes
#3846 [21:45] <mib_vudmtg> it's for all server
#3847 [21:45] <xales> http://speedtest.net/ please run the test and give me the results
#3848 [21:45] <mib_vudmtg> i try with a lot
#3849 [21:45] <mib_vudmtg> ok
#3850 [21:45] <mib_vudmtg> 1 second
#3851 [21:46] <mib_vudmtg> sorry by mi english
#3852 [21:46] <mib_vudmtg> i'm from chile xD
#3853 [21:46] <mib_vudmtg> I speack spanish
#3854 [21:47] <mib_vudmtg> ping 78; download speed 6.32 mbps; up speed 0.46 mbps
#3855 [21:47] <xales> try connecting to this server: s.nerd.nu
#3856 [21:47] <mib_vudmtg> ok
#3857 [21:48] <mib_vudmtg> again the same problem
#3858 [21:48] <mib_vudmtg> internal exception: java.net.socket Timeoutexception: read time out
#3859 [21:49] <xales> Were you able to play before? Or have you always had this issue?
#3860 [21:49] <mib_vudmtg> no
#3861 [21:49] <mib_vudmtg> last niight
#3862 [21:49] <mib_vudmtg> i bought the game
#3863 [21:49] <mib_vudmtg> yesterday
#3864 [21:49] <mib_vudmtg> and i play
#3865 [21:49] <mib_vudmtg> without problems
#3866 [21:49] <mib_vudmtg> but
#3867 [21:49] <It> speak in complete sentences. sheesh
#3868 [21:49] <mib_vudmtg> ttoday
#3869 [21:49] <mib_vudmtg> i try to connect
#3870 [21:49] <VoxelHead> Bye Diablodoct0r.
#3871 [21:50] <mib_vudmtg> with the same server
#3872 [21:50] <xales> Do not use enter as a comma
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#3875 [21:50] <mib_vudmtg> and the game has this errr
#3876 [21:50] <mib_vudmtg> internal exception: java.net.socket Timeoutexception: read time out
#3877 [21:50] <xales> Yes, I saw the error the first time
#3878 [21:50] <mib_vudmtg> xD
#3879 [21:50] <xales> Do you have a firewall running on your computer?
#3880 [21:50] <mib_vudmtg> no
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#3882 [21:51] <mib_vudmtg> it's the first time i have problems playing online
#3883 [21:51] <xales> Are you on wifi?
#3884 [21:51] <mib_vudmtg> yes
#3885 [21:52] <It> try a wired connection
#3886 [21:52] <mib_4sivqf> um when ever i try to buy it it says the transaction failed and i am using visa
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#3888 [21:52] <mib_vudmtg> ok wait a minute please
#3889 [21:52] <xales> mib_4sivqf: Is it a prepaid or gift card?
#3890 [21:52] <mib_4sivqf> ?
#3891 [21:53] <xales> Are you attempting to use a prepaid or gift card
#3892 [21:53] <mib_4sivqf> i'm trying to pay for it for the first time so prepaid
#3893 [21:54] <xales> Um, that is not what prepaid means
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#3895 [21:54] <mib_4sivqf> oh
#3896 [21:54] <mib_ij1jeb> Hello?
#3897 [21:55] <xales> Hi.
#3898 [21:55] <mib_4sivqf> what does prepaid meen then
#3899 [21:55] <mib_vudmtg> xales
#3900 [21:55] <mib_ij1jeb> It seems that when i try to install minecraft, I get this Box that says "Fatal Exception Has Occured" Please Help!
#3901 [21:56] <mib_vudmtg> its the same with wired connection
#3902 [21:56] <mib_4sivqf> me to
#3903 [21:56] <mib_ij1jeb> ?
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#3905 [21:56] <xales> mib_ij1jeb: What does it say _in_ the box?
#3906 [21:56] <mib_ij1jeb> Yep
#3907 [21:56] <xales> mib_4sivqf: Ask your parents for help
#3908 [21:56] <mib_ij1jeb> It says
#3909 [21:56] <mib_ij1jeb> lol
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#3912 [21:56] <waspattack> Hello, first time user. Have just bought Minecraft an hour ago but get"Login failed" message on both online and offline versions. What can I do to fix this?
#3913 [21:56] <xales> (that was for someone else, not you >.>)
#3914 [21:57] <mib_ij1jeb> oh!
#3915 [21:57] <mib_ij1jeb> .....
#3916 [21:57] <xales> waspattack: Login Failed means you are entering your username or password incorrectly
#3917 [21:57] <waspattack> for my son.
#3918 [21:57] <mib_4sivqf> my mom was the one paying
#3919 [21:57] <xales> mib_4sivqf: yes, ask her for help
#3920 [21:57] <mib_ij1jeb> What About Me?
#3921 [21:58] <Wug> /kick DRUNKMAN you're clearly intoxicated
#3922 [21:58] <mib_ij1jeb> lol
#3923 [21:58] <mib_4sivqf> she was the one to put all the information in she doesn't know
#3924 [21:58] <xales> mib_ij1jeb: Tell me what it says in the box..?
#3925 [21:58] <DRUNKMAN> what
#3926 [21:58] <DRUNKMAN> lol
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#3928 [21:58] <mib_ij1jeb> It says "Fatal Exception Has Occured"
#3929 [21:59] <TheNytangel> erm..
#3930 [21:59] <TheNytangel> !k drunkman
#3931 [21:59] <TheNytangel> :D
#3932 [21:59] <xales> Is that all it says?
#3933 [21:59] <VoxelHead> :-)
#3934 [21:59] <mib_ij1jeb> Let me check
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#3936 [21:59] <waspattack> "Login failed" in this case is happening despite correct udername and password entered. Many people on the forums have the same problem. Any ideas? Thx.
#3937 [21:59] <mib_ij1jeb> It says "Program Will Exit" right after that
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#3939 [21:59] <xales> mib_ij1jeb: Reinstall Java
#3940 [21:59] <mib_ij1jeb> I tryed
#3941 [21:59] <DRUNKMAN> hey, what is the link that gives me a picture of how to make every thing on minecraft survivle or building any thing on your crafting table
#3942 [21:59] <mib_ij1jeb> Epic fail
#3943 [22:00] <mib_ij1jeb> i think ill have to uninstall java, then reinstall
#3944 [22:00] <xales> waspattack: Completely erase everything in the username and password boxes, and re-enter it. Also, make sure there is not a firewall blocking Minecraft.
#3945 [22:00] <xales> mib_ij1jeb: That is what reinstalling _is_...
#3946 [22:00] <mib_ij1jeb> ok.....
#3947 [22:00] <mib_ij1jeb> ty for your assistance
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#3949 [22:01] <DRUNKMAN> or where can i find sometihng that will give a picture of everything that i can build on minecraft for a crafting table
#3950 [22:01] <It> waspattack, I wept at the completeness of your query
#3951 [22:01] <It> more liek dis
#3952 [22:01] <DRUNKMAN> any body know
#3953 [22:01] <waspattack> Thx, have done a complete erase a number of times. Will disable firewall and try that.
#3954 [22:01] <It> minecraftwiki.net
#3955 [22:01] <DRUNKMAN> ok but not the codes
#3956 [22:01] <It> does logging online work?
#3957 [22:01] <It> drunkman, minecraftwiki has everything
#3958 [22:01] <DRUNKMAN> ok
#3959 [22:02] <mib_4sivqf> i have tried to download it more then once but at the end it keeps saying [transaction failed]
#3960 [22:02] <mib_vudmtg> xales: I try with wired connection and i have the same problem
#3961 [22:02] <It> mib_4sivqf, stop using internet explorer
#3962 [22:02] <It> ?? ie
#3963 [22:03] <It> ?? internetexplorer
#3964 [22:03] <waspattack> Will take it as a compliment, Drunkman. Spelling and grammar are sexy. If only more people knew that.
#3965 [22:04] <waspattack> Sorry, you're not Drunkman. You're It. Any further suggestions on why login fails are appreciated.
#3966 [22:04] <mib_vudmtg> xales???
#3967 [22:05] <It> ??+ ie|Internet explorer has serious issues. When someone comes to us asking for help with the browser version or a download,;;they are almost always using internet explorer and their problem is almost always fixed by trying a different browser.;;Here are some alternatives: Firefox - http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/new/ Google Chrome - http://www.google.com/chrome/
#3968 [22:05] <mib_vudmtg> anyone can help me ¬¬?
#3969 [22:05] <It> mib_vudmtg, change your nickname so you're easier to mention
#3970 [22:06] <mib_vudmtg> ok
#3971 [22:06] <mib_4sivqf> Here is the exact error message, Transaction not allowed You have entered invalid payment instrument details. Please check and try again.
#3972 [22:06] <xales> mib_4sivqf: It means you entered the wrong payment information, then
#3973 [22:07] <xales> Which is not something we can help with
#3974 [22:07] <Shrmn> Alright, still having black screen issues. Seems you guys are being blasted with help questions at the moment though
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#3976 [22:07] <mib_4sivqf> It is not wrong I have the card in hand and have entered it more than several times. Perhaps something is wrong with your payment system?
#3977 [22:08] <Ciceron> now
#3978 [22:09] <Shrmn> mib_4sivqf It isnt It 's payment method, but could it be possible you chose the wrong card type
#3979 [22:10] <xales> mib_4sivqf: First, it's not "our" payment system. We are community support, and have nothing to with Mojang
#3980 [22:10] <Ciceron> when i'm playing online, I stay online for 5 second and game said: Conecction Lost
#3981 [22:10] <Ciceron> internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeOutException: Read Time out
#3982 [22:10] <xales> Furthermore, Mojang doesn't even process the payments, it is handled by a third party.
#3983 [22:10] <xales> Your financial institution is denying the transaction.
#3984 [22:10] <xales> Ciceron: Reinstall Java
#3985 [22:10] <Ciceron> ok
#3986 [22:12] <Shrmn> Xales: Have any other ideas for black screen fix?
#3987 [22:12] <xales> Shrmn: You tried running it on a new user account?
#3988 [22:12] <Shrmn> Yes, no luck
#3989 [22:13] <mib_4sivqf> How do we then contact someone who knows something and is able to support the payment system? I assure you my financial institution is not denying the transaction ...
#3990 [22:13] <Shrmn> mib_4sivqf: Are you sure you chose the right card type (ex: visa, mastercard)
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#3992 [22:14] <xales> mib_4sivqf: Try using Paypal. And the error you get means, specifically, that your financial institution is denying the charge
#3993 [22:15] <mib_4sivqf> Yes of course, I've made payment by credit card many times before. Something is obviously wrong with the system as I am not even asked my 'verified by visa' password before the error is given. Perhaps you could share who is able to provide support for this payment system.
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#3995 [22:16] <xales> I do not believe that the direct credit card gateway supports extended verification (the "verified by visa" password)
#3996 [22:16] <xales> you would have to try using Paypal, which likely does support it
#3997 [22:17] <xales> beyond that, we do not have any contact with the payment processing company and do not know what support they provide, or how to contact them
#3998 [22:19] <Shrmn> Xales: I found a random fix that says to download "Modmanager" and try a random mod as a black screen fix. Not sure as to where the modmanager is downloaded to try
#3999 [22:20] <mib_4sivqf> They certainly do because the first time I was asked for the password before getting a different error message. Now I am not asked for the password and get this error message. So basically you are saying no one can help ... is this not the help section?
#4000 [22:20] <xales> Shrmn: You could try asking #risucraft regarding installing a mod, but I have never heard of "modmanager" and so you should be very cautious. (unless you happen to mean ModLoader)
#4001 [22:21] <Shrmn> Xales: There is one supported by Mojang correct?
#4002 [22:26] <Ciceron> xales
#4003 [22:26] <Ciceron> ty very much
#4004 [22:27] <Ciceron> with th java reinstall the game works
#4005 [22:27] <Ciceron> =)
#4006 [22:27] <VoxelHead> =]
#4007 [22:27] <Ciceron> good work
#4008 [22:27] <Ciceron> im happy now xD
#4009 [22:27] <Ciceron> yjaja bye
#4010 [22:27] <mib_4sivqf> Used Paypal and it worked just fine ... thanks for the ... 'help'
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#4013 [22:28] <needshelp> hey can some 1 halp me
#4014 [22:29] <ellisgeek> ??> needshelp ask
#4015 [22:29] <VoxelHead> needshelp: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4016 [22:29] <VoxelHead> needshelp: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4017 [22:29] <ellisgeek> ??> needshelp ask/howto
#4018 [22:30] <VoxelHead> needshelp: (ask/howto) Please read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before
#4019 [22:30] <VoxelHead> needshelp: (ask/howto) Yes, it's long. That's because it's packed chock-full of information, explained clearly.
#4020 [22:31] <needshelp> when i go to open minecraf it lets me log in but i cant play the game it stops at done loading iv allready tryd deleting the .minecrft file on my cpu but nothing seems to worj
#4021 [22:31] <ellisgeek> so what can we do you for?
#4022 [22:31] <ellisgeek> ??> needshelp win/reinst
#4023 [22:31] <VoxelHead> needshelp: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4024 [22:31] <VoxelHead> needshelp: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything but the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4025 [22:31] <needshelp> how do i do that
#4026 [22:32] <needshelp> ok
#4027 [22:32] <ellisgeek> and also update your graphics card drivers and reinstall java
#4028 [22:32] <needshelp> iv done the appdata thing allready no help for me ther
#4029 [22:33] <ellisgeek> first reinstall java (http://java.com)
#4030 [22:33] <needshelp> how can i update the graphics card and ok
#4031 [22:34] <ellisgeek> what kind of computer do you have (dell, asus etc.)
#4032 [22:34] <needshelp> hp
#4033 [22:34] <needshelp> it a laptop
#4034 [22:36] <needshelp> what is graphic card
#4035 [22:36] <ellisgeek> ok go to: http://www8.hp.com/us/en/support-drivers.html and click the detect button
#4036 [22:36] <needshelp> ok
#4037 [22:37] <ellisgeek> graphics card/gpu is what lets you play games and have a screen
#4038 [22:38] <needshelp> ok um what do i go to once on the web site
#4039 [22:38] <needshelp> im guessing drivers and soft wear
#4040 [22:39] * mib_jvux8m [mib_jvux8m@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4041 [22:39] <mib_jvux8m> hey...i need help
#4042 [22:39] <needshelp> lol u to
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#4044 [22:39] <mib_jvux8m> yes
#4045 [22:39] <needshelp> me 2
#4046 [22:40] <mib_jvux8m> i bought the game over a hour ago and theres no play button
#4047 [22:40] <needshelp> check out the convosation befor u came in and it might help
#4048 [22:40] <needshelp> click in browser
#4049 [22:40] <mib_jvux8m> i did
#4050 [22:41] <VoxelHead> where'd my moose go?
#4051 [22:41] <mib_jvux8m> browser on home pg.?
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#4053 [22:41] <sprocket> Hey
#4054 [22:42] <VoxelHead> I like them ^_^
#4055 [22:42] <sprocket> I need help please
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#4057 [22:42] <needshelp> when the minecraft comes up in the bottom right will take u to it if it ask for a update say yes the click single plyer and name your world then type anthing u want in the seed
#4058 [22:42] <sprocket> for some reason I can't start minecraft on this computer
#4059 [22:42] <needshelp> me either
#4060 [22:43] <sprocket> wat type of computer do u have
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#4062 [22:43] <sprocket> I got windows 7 on PC
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#4064 [22:44] <needshelp> i think i do to im bout to update windows myself u should do so to
#4065 [22:44] <xales> needshelp: Uh, so what exactly is the problem?
#4066 [22:44] <xales> sprocket: Why can't you?
#4067 [22:44] <sprocket> I dont know how
#4068 [22:44] <sprocket> idk
#4069 [22:45] <xales> sprocket: Then how do you know it doesn't work?
#4070 [22:45] <sprocket> it loads and then theres an error
#4071 [22:45] <needshelp> same
#4072 [22:46] <xales> ?? error
#4073 [22:46] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#4074 [22:46] <sprocket> I tryed on my other computer and it works
#4075 [22:46] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
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#4077 [22:46] <sprocket> something pops up sayong tht it failed or something
#4078 [22:47] <xales> Again, I can not help you if I do not know what the problem is
#4079 [22:47] <xales> Imagine this:
#4080 [22:47] <xales> I take my car to the mechanic and I tell him, "it doesn't work"
#4081 [22:47] <sprocket> k wait Ima tell u wat it exactly says
#4082 [22:48] <xales> what are they going to do? Spend hours checking every single part of the complicated car? Nope
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#4084 [22:48] <corinanth> #voidkingdom
#4085 [22:48] <corinanth> sorrey forgot .join
#4086 [22:49] <sprocket> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException:Pixelformat not accelerated
#4087 [22:50] <xales> Update your graphics card driver (exactly like the error says)
#4088 [22:50] <sprocket> Exception: Pixel/
#4089 [22:50] <sprocket> how do i do that
#4090 [22:50] <xales> Do you know what graphics card you have?
#4091 [22:50] <sprocket> no
#4092 [22:51] <sprocket> is there a way to find it
#4093 [22:51] <xales> ??> sprocket win/dxdiag
#4094 [22:51] <VoxelHead> sprocket: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4095 [22:51] <VoxelHead> sprocket: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#4096 [22:52] <sprocket> k
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#4098 [22:54] <Happehwalrus> xales: Pardon me, but if you take your car to a mechanic he'd pop the engine open, start the car/try to, then inspect it and find out what's wrong. Then he would also find a few other things that are "wrong" so he has to replace those things then increasing the amount of money you pay, ripping you off!
#4099 [22:55] <xales> Heh, that's probably more accurate
#4100 [22:55] <Happehwalrus> oops
#4101 [22:55] <VoxelHead> moron
#4102 [22:55] <Happehwalrus> *Pop the hood open
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#4104 [22:56] <NinjaWarrior> How do i know if i have a premium account???
#4105 [22:56] <sprocket> http://pastebin.com/nZnHh6Qj
#4106 [22:56] <Happehwalrus> What are you calling me a moron for?
#4107 [22:56] <sprocket> k then wat
#4108 [22:56] <Happehwalrus> NinjaWarrior: You know if you bought the game or not.
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#4110 [22:57] <Happehwalrus> If you bought the game, then you have a premium account.
#4111 [22:57] <NinjaWarrior> my card went through but it still says buy game
#4112 [22:58] <sprocket> I still dont know what to do now
#4113 [22:59] <Bacu> MY PEOPLE
#4114 [22:59] <Bacu> WHO WANTS TO HELP
#4115 [22:59] <NinjaWarrior> me
#4116 [22:59] <Bacu> doubtful, but okay.
#4117 [22:59] <Bacu> PROBLEM: how to make the game stop running like crap.
#4118 [23:00] <sprocket> the problem is still happening
#4119 [23:00] <Bacu> every few seconds the thing hangs.
#4120 [23:00] <Bacu> practically unplayable
#4121 [23:00] <Bacu> started with 1.6
#4122 [23:00] <Happehwalrus> Bacu: lower your graphics settings
#4123 [23:00] <Bacu> but i've never had-
#4124 [23:00] <Bacu> ffFFFFFF
#4125 [23:00] <Bacu> let me finish
#4126 [23:00] <Bacu> I've never had good performance
#4127 [23:00] <Happehwalrus> and then possibly get a newer computer.
#4128 [23:00] <Bacu> I have an OC'd
#4129 [23:00] <Bacu> SHUT UP LET ME FINISH
#4130 [23:00] <Bacu> AN OC'D 6950
#4131 [23:00] <Happehwalrus> YOU LET ME FINISH
#4132 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Easy there guys
#4133 [23:00] <Bacu> I can run better games at 1080 without a hitch
#4134 [23:01] <Happehwalrus> FOO'
#4135 [23:01] <Bacu> but this heap is unplayable.
#4136 [23:01] <Bacu> what do I do here.
#4137 [23:01] <Happehwalrus> GreyVulpine, I was simply kidding.
#4138 [23:01] <sprocket> I still need help with my problem about minecraft
#4139 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Happehwalrus had the right suggestion, try lowering your graphics settings inside minecraft
#4140 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Turn down your render distance, toggle the frame limiter, change the quality from fancy to fast
#4141 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> If any of those help, it's your graphics
#4142 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Also the openGL advanced options as well
#4143 [23:02] <Bacu> I HAVE
#4144 [23:02] <Happehwalrus> And if any of those don't help, you should probably get a better computer.
#4145 [23:02] <Bacu> you want my damned computer specs?
#4146 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Could you pull up F3 while you do all that, and look at the FPS?
#4147 [23:03] <Bacu> yes
#4148 [23:03] <Bacu> hold on.
#4149 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Maybe pull up your task manager (I assume you're on a windows box)
#4150 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Check the RAM usage, check your page file, check your CPU
#4151 [23:03] <Bacu> http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9125/66451239.png
#4152 [23:03] <Bacu> that.
#4153 [23:03] <Bacu> is what it's doing to me.
#4154 [23:03] <Bacu> for some reason in the past it's never gone above 30fps
#4155 [23:03] <Bacu> but see those huge damned spikes
#4156 [23:03] <Bacu> yeah
#4157 [23:03] <Bacu> they're a problem.
#4158 [23:04] <xales> Make a new map
#4159 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Having an OCed processor has been known to cause problems in minecraft as well
#4160 [23:04] <Bacu> I have.
#4161 [23:04] <Bacu> and I've turned off the OC.
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#4163 [23:04] <Bacu> no help.
#4164 [23:04] <Shrmn> Ok so finally got java to display the error I am having
#4165 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Have you messed with any of the timing in your BIOS
#4166 [23:04] <Bacu> no.
#4167 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Have you messed with power usage, or any advanced options
#4168 [23:04] <Shrmn> http://mibpaste.com/miq1eo
#4169 [23:04] <Bacu> nein.
#4170 [23:05] <Happehwalrus> If you are on Windows you could go on task manager, find java.exe then make the priority higher. That helps me a bit when Minecraft is lagging for me on Windows.
#4171 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> How about forcing options in your video settings, control panel
#4172 [23:05] <Bacu> I did.
#4173 [23:05] <Bacu> turned it up as high as it would go
#4174 [23:05] <Bacu> changed affinity to one core to rule out threading issues
#4175 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Are you setting it to certain values, like v-sync?
#4176 [23:05] <needshelp> what and where is the irc channel
#4177 [23:05] <xales> Shrmn: Run a full Windows Update
#4178 [23:06] <Bacu> nop.
#4179 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Instead of having the application choose the value, you're forcing it from the video card's control panel?
#4180 [23:06] <xales> needshelp: This is the IRC channel..
#4181 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Check your video card's control panel
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#4183 [23:06] <Shrmn> Should be up to date but will try
#4184 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Try setting stuff back to default
#4185 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> I've got a feeling you've got a setting hardcoded to a value there, instead of having minecraft choose it for you
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#4187 [23:08] <Bacu> could be.
#4188 [23:10] <sprocket> this is no help
#4189 [23:10] <xales> sprocket: Did you gibe us the pastebin link?
#4190 [23:10] <xales> ._.
#4191 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, he did
#4192 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/nZnHh6Qj
#4193 [23:11] <xales> Bah, I didn't see it between the spam
#4194 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Meh, it happens
#4195 [23:11] <Happehwalrus> I have a suggestion
#4196 [23:11] <needshelp> what is sh irc chenell
#4197 [23:11] <Happehwalrus> get Linux.
#4198 [23:11] <needshelp> chanell
#4199 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> needshelp - An IRC channel is what you're in now
#4200 [23:11] <Happehwalrus> Preferably Ubuntu or something Ubuntu-derived.
#4201 [23:11] <needshelp> uh u no
#4202 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> It's a chat room, in layman's terms
#4203 [23:11] <Moonmon> Arch*
#4204 [23:12] <needshelp> ok
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#4206 [23:12] <needshelp> 1.------------------
#4207 [23:12] <xales> GreyVulpine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ
#4208 [23:12] <Happehwalrus> Moonmon, I suggested an Ubuntu derivative. Arch is one, is it not?
#4209 [23:12] <xales> (I know you have seen it, just randomly bringing it up)
#4210 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Bah, i hated that episode
#4211 [23:13] * GreyVulpine stabs numbers
#4211 [23:13] <xales> Happehwalrus: It's not. Ubuntu is, in fact, a Debian derivitive itself
#4212 [23:13] <Bacu> well.
#4213 [23:13] <Bacu> that's weird.
#4214 [23:13] <Happehwalrus> xales: that I know
#4215 [23:13] <Bacu> rons fine now.
#4216 [23:13] <needshelp> ------------------
#4217 [23:13] <Bacu> I reset my graphics settings to default
#4218 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> needshelp - Please stop spamming that
#4219 [23:13] <Bacu> and then when I set them back to what they were.
#4220 [23:13] <Bacu> it worked fine.
#4221 [23:13] <Bacu> weird.
#4222 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Bacu - Well then.
#4223 [23:14] <Bacu> SHRUG.
#4224 [23:14] <Happehwalrus> Arch Linux is a Debian derivative, then? I knew it was either an Debian or Ubuntu, I just took a shot and said Ubuntu.
#4225 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> !wiki arch linux
#4226 [23:14] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arch_Linux
#4227 [23:14] <GreyBot> Arch Linux (or Arch, pronounced /ˈɑrtʃ/) is a Linux distribution intended to be lightweight and simple. The design approach of the development team focuses on simplicity, elegance, code correctness and minimalism. "Simplicity", according to Arch, is defined as "...without unnecessary additions, modifications, or complications.." and is defined from a
#4228 [23:14] <GreyBot> developer standpoint, rather than a user standpoint.
#4229 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Meh
#4230 [23:15] <Happehwalrus> It didn't say anything about what it was derived from. :(
#4231 [23:15] <Happehwalrus> Bad bot, bad.
#4232 [23:15] <xales> Whereas Ubuntu the rest of the Debian family use semistale (old) packages, Arch is a bleeding edge distribution
#4233 [23:15] <xales> It's not "derived" from anything
#4234 [23:15] <xales> It's is it's own distribution
#4235 [23:16] <Happehwalrus> Hm. Must have been thinking about something else then, thanks for telling me.
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#4237 [23:18] <Shrmn> Xales: Turns out I was missing 7 windows updates. Installed now, restarted and still getting same java error
#4238 [23:18] <Shrmn> http://mibpaste.com/YgsbK8
#4239 [23:19] <xales> ??> Shrmn win/dxdiag
#4240 [23:19] <VoxelHead> Shrmn: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4241 [23:19] <VoxelHead> Shrmn: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#4242 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> Shrmn - Did you mess with the lwjgl files at all?
#4243 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> I seen this happen when people try to upgrade lwjgl manually, but not giving it all the needed files
#4244 [23:20] <Shrmn> http://pastebin.com/Y04sXiyy
#4245 [23:20] <Shrmn> No I havent, also tried deleting .minecraft folder again
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#4247 [23:23] <Shrmn> Grey: any reason the files might not be complete from minecraft updater?
#4248 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, no..
#4249 [23:23] <xales> Well
#4250 [23:23] <xales> Possibly an overeager firewall or antivirus that is like
#4251 [23:23] <xales> "DOWNLOAD BINARIES? NOOOOOO"
#4252 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> ^ could be a reason
#4253 [23:24] * mib_na9935 [mib_na9935@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4254 [23:24] <mib_na9935> I need help
#4255 [23:24] <Shrmn> Only firewall running on my side is my linksys router
#4256 [23:24] <xales> mib_na9935: With..?
#4257 [23:24] <mib_na9935> How do I update my computer
#4258 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> I mean, you can try downloading lwjgl yourself. it's available from lwjgl.org
#4259 [23:24] <Shrmn> ok will do
#4260 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Just a matter of knowing what to extract, where
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#4262 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> yeesh, it's up to 2.7.1
#4263 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Notch is still distributing minecraft with 2.4.2
#4264 [23:25] * mib_tyzn3k [mib_tyzn3k@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4265 [23:26] <Shrmn> Grey: Ill try it but seems like there are multiple file downloads, which would be the one I need?
#4266 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> If you choose Latest stable build, it'll be "lwjgl-2.7.1.zip "
#4267 [23:26] <VoxelHead> Choose a fucking big television
#4268 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> vox, shut up
#4269 [23:26] * VoxelHead knows when it isn't wanted.
#4269 [23:26] <Shrmn> Grey: Ok thats what I thought
#4270 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Let me match this up on my side..
#4271 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> From the jar folder on the .zip file, you want to put these files in .minecraft/bin/
#4272 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> jinput.jar, lwjgl.jar, and lwjgl_util.jar
#4273 [23:28] <Shrmn> Grey: I just moved them all. Dont figure unused files will hurt it
#4274 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Then from the native folder on the zip file, you'll want to put in these files in .minecraft/bin/natives
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#4276 [23:29] <xales> GreyVulpine: I might make a small utility to upgrade Minecraft's lwjgl at some point (just downloads the archive from lwjgl's site, extracts it to the proper location)
#4277 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Looks like everything
#4278 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> xales - Might be a good idea
#4279 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> updating lwjgl can solve many problems, it used to be one of my frequently used troubleshooting steps
#4280 [23:29] <Shrmn> Well, thats done and got a new error for yah :) http://mibpaste.com/PTzyk2
#4281 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Looks like.. the java cert isn't being accepted?
#4282 [23:30] <Shrmn> Seems my files are not downloading complete with update
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#4284 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Can you try clearing your browser's cache and closing/reopening
#4285 [23:30] <DopeGhoti> date/SSL issue?
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#4287 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> ^ also could be
#4288 [23:31] <Shrmn> Should I try a different browser? Using chrome
#4289 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Make sure your system time is correct
#4290 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> After that, try clearing your browser's cache
#4291 [23:32] <Shrmn> K
#4292 [23:35] <Shrmn> Same error
#4293 [23:35] <Shrmn> Ill try firefox see what it says
#4294 [23:37] <Shrmn> Firefox gets same error message and its a fresh install
#4295 [23:37] <xales> Hmm
#4296 [23:37] <xales> ??> Shrmn win/hosts
#4297 [23:37] <VoxelHead> Shrmn: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#4298 [23:37] <VoxelHead> Shrmn: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
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#4300 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any other security software running on that machine?
#4301 [23:38] <Shrmn> At the moment there shouldnt be anything. Fresh XP install
#4302 [23:38] <Shrmn> XP firewall is uninstalled
#4303 [23:38] <Shrmn> sorry turned off
#4304 [23:38] <xales> Are you running Service Pack 3?
#4305 [23:38] <Shrmn> Yes
#4306 [23:39] <Shrmn> What port does minecraft use, I could try forwarding it past router friewall
#4307 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> shouldn't need to port forward anything
#4308 [23:40] <Shrmn> Well only firewall I have running at the moment is my routers SPI firewall
#4309 [23:43] <Shrmn> http://mibpaste.com/2LUVio Here is my host info
#4310 [23:45] <xales> hmm, that's normal..
#4311 [23:45] <Blynky_> i forward 25565
#4312 [23:46] <Shrmn> Thats for server hosting
#4313 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Possibly try a complete java uninstall/reinstall?
#4314 [23:46] <Blynky_> ah nvm.. didn't read back far enough :)
#4315 [23:47] <Shrmn> Been there done that but havent tried it after those windows updates
#4316 [23:47] <Shrmn> Guess I could try again
#4317 [23:47] <Shrmn> I just dont understand why minecraft worked before I reinstalled windows but now its bugging out
#4318 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Out of date (insert computer software here)
#4319 [23:48] <Shrmn> Alright let me restart and Ill reinstall
#4320 [23:48] <Shrmn> Java that is
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#4323 [23:51] <Shrmn> And of course it still does not work
#4324 [23:52] <Shrmn> You said it might be an ssl issue? How could I check or fix that?
#4325 [23:53] <xales> Check the date on your computer
#4326 [23:53] <xales> pay close attention to the year, as well
#4327 [23:53] <Shrmn> Date and time are correct
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#4329 [23:54] <Shrmn> Went ahead and synced with time.windows.com just in case and its still the same
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#4331 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps some sort of internet security setting on windows?
#4332 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> I don't remember what's default when windows is installed.
#4333 [23:58] <Shrmn> That should only effect ie though correct?
#4334 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Java, by default, uses those connection settings, I believe.
#4335 [23:59] <Shrmn> Hmm