#1 [00:00] <hotpocket45> bordercraft
#2 [00:00] <hotpocket45> cause i like borderlands
#3 [00:01] <zchr> BIG RED TEXT
#4 [00:01] <zchr> INSTALL THE PATCHER
#5 [00:01] <almostroot> hotpocket45: Reinstall Minecraft, then follow the instructions for that texturepack
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#8 [00:01] <NaruY_Lucky> excuse,
#9 [00:01] <zchr> ??> NaruY_Lucky ask
#10 [00:01] <VoxelHead> NaruY_Lucky: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#11 [00:01] <VoxelHead> NaruY_Lucky: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#12 [00:02] <hotpocket45> just ask the nice people your question
#13 [00:02] <hotpocket45> and they answer it
#14 [00:03] <almostroot> hotpocket45: lilybet would disagree with you.
#15 [00:03] <hotpocket45> sorry
#16 [00:03] <almostroot> Was a joke. ;P
#17 [00:03] <NaruY_Lucky> sorry,
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#19 [00:04] <zchr> excuse, sorry.
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#22 [00:04] <Product> Hi all.
#23 [00:04] <Eddie> Hello.
#24 [00:04] <Eddie> Do you not fear for your life?
#25 [00:04] <hotpocket45> okay my single player is exelent but if i play on my minecraft online server i have so much frame rate lag i quit in rage
#26 [00:04] <Product> I have a Minecraft Classic Server.
#27 [00:05] <Product> I host it on my computer.
#28 [00:05] <almostroot> hotpocket45: It's probably the server then.
#29 [00:05] <zchr> framerate lag?
#30 [00:05] <hotpocket45> okay
#31 [00:05] <Product> But I want to make it 24/7, by hosting it on something else.
#32 [00:05] <Product> Like a comany, or VPS or something like that.
#33 [00:05] <Product> What do you recomend me guys ?
#34 [00:05] <hotpocket45> like lag when i move i move 2 seconds later
#35 [00:05] <hotpocket45> sucks when im near lava
#36 [00:05] <almostroot> Product: No idea. I have a real server. Try the forums.
#37 [00:06] <hotpocket45> heheh
#38 [00:06] <hotpocket45> k
#39 [00:06] <almostroot> hotpocket45: Try a different server.
#40 [00:06] <Product> Ok
#41 [00:06] <Product> Thanks.
#42 [00:06] <zchr> Product, you could just keep your computer on
#43 [00:06] <almostroot> Product: Good luck.
#44 [00:06] <Product> Thank you very much guys :)
#45 [00:07] <Product> Thanks almostroot. :)
#46 [00:07] * Consumer chases Product
#46 [00:07] <hotpocket45> HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
#47 [00:07] <hotpocket45> okay next question
#48 [00:08] <almostroot> Product: Looks like there's a whole sub-forum on it: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/46-minecraft-server-hosting/
#49 [00:08] <zchr> If anyone has an outstanding question, please ask it.
#50 [00:08] <hotpocket45> is there a online server for multiplayer survival single player is lonely
#51 [00:08] <zchr> whoops
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#53 [00:08] <zchr> not outstanding
#54 [00:08] <zchr> hurr
#55 [00:08] <zchr> aww
#56 [00:08] <zchr> what.
#57 [00:09] <zchr> VoxelHead just muted me, then unmuted me.
#58 [00:09] <almostroot> Too many messages in a set time period.
#59 [00:09] <zchr> ah, that's why it happened last time.
#60 [00:10] <almostroot> hotpocket45: Check the forums. I'm sure there are tons.
#61 [00:10] <hotpocket45> k
#62 [00:10] <zchr> multiplayer surivial single player?
#63 [00:10] <zchr> woah, i've never tried that
#64 [00:10] <zchr> if you need one to test, s.nerd.nu is a good example of a proper minecraft server
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#66 [00:11] <zchr> ??> zchr
#67 [00:12] <almostroot> zchr: http://faq.xales.info/
#68 [00:12] <zchr> i know, i accidentally pasted something
#69 [00:12] <zchr> i forgot how to open the menu in puTTY full screen
#70 [00:13] * almostroot cringes.
#70 [00:13] <zchr> what's your problem with putty, man?
#71 [00:14] <almostroot> *NIX emulation on Windows makes me cringe.
#72 [00:14] <zchr> it's not emulation, i'm just ssh-ing into a remote server.
#73 [00:14] <titegtnodI> ^
#74 [00:14] <zchr> it's like a serial terminal
#75 [00:14] <zchr> not emulating anything
#76 [00:15] <hotpocket45> thanks zchr i think ill be on this server if u wana talk to me there im screaminediott cause screaminediot is tooken looks like lag isnt bad so most of the important questions are answerfd so ill need help later my last question before im off is is there an easy way to get back to this helpfull site
#77 [00:15] <almostroot> ??> hotpocket45 mibbit
#78 [00:15] <VoxelHead> hotpocket45: (mibbit) Mibbit is a particularly bad excuse for an IRC client. It is slow, and doesn't show you many important things. It doesn't follow the IRC standards, and has numerous other problems.
#79 [00:15] <VoxelHead> hotpocket45: (mibbit) There are much better alternatives, such as PChat and mIRC for Windows, XChat-Aqua for Mac, irssi and XChat for Linux
#80 [00:15] <almostroot> Server is irc.esper.net channel is #minecrafthelp
#81 [00:16] <hotpocket45> nvm thanks guys ill be on that nerd server zchr was talkn bout as screaminediott if u wana play see u later
#82 [00:16] <zchr> http://www.minecraftirc.net/info
#83 [00:16] <titegtnodI> Oh mah gawd VoxelHead hates Mibbit too
#84 [00:16] <titegtnodI> I love you VoxelHead
#85 [00:17] <hotpocket45> bye
#86 [00:17] <zchr> bye.
#87 [00:17] <zchr> i <3 this shell account i've been using, 41 days of uptime
#88 [00:18] <zchr> $0.50/mo, too
#89 [00:18] <almostroot> I run ZNC on my server and connect via LimeChat.
#90 [00:18] <zchr> i usually use... mirc.
#91 [00:19] <zchr> jk, xchat2
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#94 [00:21] <xales> almostroot_mibbittest: Join #help and look at that on-join message
#95 [00:21] <xales> ._.
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#97 [00:21] * VoxelHead kicked dr_bibble from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: Ban evasion (austinpowers))
#98 [00:21] <xales> (we still get people in there asking for Minecraft help, as well!)
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#100 [00:22] <almostroot> The helpgame link is awwwwesome.
#101 [00:22] <xales> haha
#102 [00:23] <almostroot> "justhelping provides the page without the condescending header" That makes me sad. It should /never/ be an option.
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#104 [00:24] <mib_47l6lc> i got an problem
#105 [00:24] <almostroot> ??> mib_47l6lc ask
#106 [00:24] <VoxelHead> mib_47l6lc: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#107 [00:24] <VoxelHead> mib_47l6lc: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#108 [00:24] <almostroot> I may need to start linking the gift one often....
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#111 [00:25] <mib_o1uxaf> Anybody here with a Mac? I need some help...
#112 [00:25] <zchr> ??> mib_o1uxaf ask
#113 [00:25] <VoxelHead> mib_o1uxaf: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#114 [00:25] <almostroot> mib_o1uxaf: Speak.
#115 [00:25] <mib_47l6lc> it says that my pixel format is not accerlated how do i accerate it?
#116 [00:25] <VoxelHead> mib_o1uxaf: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#117 [00:26] <almostroot> mib_47l6lc: What says that?
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#119 [00:26] <zchr> no graphics card drivers for mac 0_o
#120 [00:27] <mib_o1uxaf> Ok, well I am trying to play Minecraft for the first time and when I try to join an online sever I am having trouble playing because I can't use my mouse or anything
#121 [00:27] <zchr> i guess you could run system update
#122 [00:27] <mib_o1uxaf> Pressing B and ESC does not work to release my mouse
#123 [00:27] <raisin> I cant play the free minecraft classic when i click on single player and multiplayer it says unable to load logo and progress bar images can you help please?
#124 [00:27] <almostroot> mib_o1uxaf: Try downloading it, not playing te browser version. (assuming you've paid)
#125 [00:27] <zchr> ??> raisin getjava
#126 [00:27] <mib_o1uxaf> I haven't played before.
#127 [00:27] <VoxelHead> raisin: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#128 [00:27] <almostroot> raisin: Check your Java version.
#129 [00:28] <almostroot> ??> raisin java/version
#130 [00:28] <VoxelHead> raisin: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#131 [00:28] <VoxelHead> raisin: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
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#133 [00:28] <raisin> i never paid for full version im new and just wanted the free version to try it to see if i liked it or not.
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#135 [00:29] <zchr> follow his instructions.
#136 [00:29] <almostroot> raisin: Check your java version, update if need be.
#137 [00:30] <mib_o1uxaf> Any suggestions on how to make Minecraft playable via freeing my mouse? I have to shut down every time I want to play because I am no longer able to use my mouse because the in-browser Minecraft makes it derp.
#138 [00:30] <almostroot> mib_o1uxaf: Never had that issue. Are you playing Classic or Beta?
#139 [00:30] <mib_o1uxaf> Classic
#140 [00:31] <almostroot> mib_o1uxaf: Try playing in Safari if you aren;t already.
#141 [00:31] <zchr> or a browser that's not what you're using
#142 [00:31] <mib_47l6lc> it says org.lwigl.LWJGIException: Pixel format not accelerated
#143 [00:31] <mib_o1uxaf> Ok. Is Firefox an unacceptable browser to try to play with?
#144 [00:32] <zchr> mib_47l6lc: make sure all mac os updates are installed.
#145 [00:32] <almostroot> mib_o1uxaf: I've only had luck with Safari on my Mac.
#146 [00:32] <mib_o1uxaf> Alright. I'll run Safari and see what happens.
#147 [00:32] <almostroot> zchr: mib_47l6lc never said they have a Mac.
#148 [00:32] <zchr> i thought they did
#149 [00:32] <zchr> whoops, i'm getting all these mibs mixed up
#150 [00:33] <almostroot> mib_47l6lc: Please check your version of java using the following link.
#151 [00:33] <almostroot> ??> mib_47l6lc java/version
#152 [00:33] <VoxelHead> mib_47l6lc: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#153 [00:33] <VoxelHead> mib_47l6lc: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#154 [00:34] <mib_o1uxaf> Safari works!
#155 [00:34] <almostroot> mib_o1uxaf: Awesome.
#156 [00:34] <mib_o1uxaf> Thank you for the help Minecraft Help IRC. Another question...
#157 [00:35] <almostroot> mib_o1uxaf: If you end up buying the game, the downloadable client works very well.
#158 [00:35] <almostroot> Yes?
#159 [00:35] <mib_o1uxaf> Has anybody ever come into here asking about Battletoads?
#160 [00:35] <almostroot> No.
#161 [00:35] <mib_o1uxaf> Just curious.
#162 [00:35] <almostroot> Try #battletoads
#163 [00:36] <mib_o1uxaf> If I were to buy the game, what should I expect?
#164 [00:36] <zchr> mib_o1uxaf: look at some youtube videos, you'll see how much more there is to the paid game.
#165 [00:37] <mib_o1uxaf> Cool. How does it run? Like do I need to use a browser to play or does it run on my computer like a normal PC game would?
#166 [00:37] <zchr> It runs in both.
#167 [00:37] <zchr> almostroot mentioned that
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#169 [00:38] <mib_o1uxaf> Ok, my mistake I must have missed that. I appreciate the help. Now I have to figure out what I actually need to do. Right now my screen in Safari went black.
#170 [00:39] <raisin> what version of java should i have if i want to play minecraft classic?
#171 [00:40] <xales> The latest.
#172 [00:40] <mib_o1uxaf> Now none of the online servers work...
#173 [00:41] <raisin> ya but what should it be
#174 [00:41] <zchr> it should tell you if there's a newer version.
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#176 [00:41] <Kdizzl3> im having a force close issue. i start up minecraft and it just closes then i get a notepad error on my desktop that looks like this http://pastebin.com/cehGAJ2E
#177 [00:41] <SunBhie> I'm having difficulties buying the game.
#178 [00:42] <SunBhie> I choose VISA option, fill my info, then it asks for my moneybookers (why?) then it asks for my VISA info yet again (why?)
#179 [00:42] <zchr> Try using paypal
#180 [00:43] <SunBhie> my paypal acct is inactive and i have no intention of activating it in near future
#181 [00:43] <Kdizzl3> voxelhead i think you helped me last time.
#182 [00:43] <xales> SunBhie: You don't need a PayPal account to use PayPal
#183 [00:43] <xales> Kdizzl3: VoxelHead is not a person
#184 [00:43] <SunBhie> Why does the site ask for my moneybookers acct when I have filled the sufficient info required to make the payment possible.
#185 [00:43] <mib_o1uxaf> Any help on making the servers work? All I get is a black screen and nothing is loading? I have the latest version on Java.
#186 [00:44] <zchr> mib_o1uxaf: try another server
#187 [00:44] <mib_o1uxaf> I have, none of them seem to work.
#188 [00:44] <Kdizzl3> anyone help me with a force close issure
#189 [00:44] <Kdizzl3> hs_err_pid3212
#190 [00:45] <zchr> it looks like your video card driver crashed
#191 [00:45] <zchr> try updating or reinstalling them
#192 [00:45] <almostroot> ??> Kdizzl3 gpu/amd
#193 [00:45] <VoxelHead> Kdizzl3: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#194 [00:45] <Kdizzl3> wierd i run killing floor on it all the time. think its the open GL?
#195 [00:45] <SunBhie> Alright thanks, I did pay through paypal -> visa.. that was weird.
#196 [00:46] <almostroot> SunBhie: Will take a bit to process.
#197 [00:46] <almostroot> mib_o1uxaf: You have version 6 update 26 of Java?
#198 [00:47] <zchr> Kdizzl3, maybe, most games would probably run with old video card drivers. update/reinstall them anyway
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#200 [00:51] <Kdizzl3> zchr this information makes the most sense so far. i just bought the PC. its older. a 2003 AMD motherboard with hardly any drivers
#201 [00:53] <zchr> yeah, i'm guessing it's running drivers from windows update. those are usually out of date.
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#203 [00:55] <Kdizzl3> i used uniblue driver scanner to repair my audio driver. the radeon is the only driver update that it gives me a"driver did not update sucessfully" alert
#204 [00:55] <almostroot> ??> Kdizzl3
#205 [00:55] <zchr> ??> Kdizzl3 gpu/amd
#206 [00:55] <VoxelHead> Kdizzl3: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#207 [00:55] <almostroot> ??> Kdizzl3 win/dxdiag
#208 [00:55] <VoxelHead> Kdizzl3: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#209 [00:55] <VoxelHead> Kdizzl3: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#211 [00:57] <Kdizzl3> about to post dxdaig one second
#212 [00:58] <mib_h8zumu> Hey VoxelHead; I went to "search" and typed in "minecraft" and moved .minecraft to desktop in hopes to add a save file from a friend. Once I added the save file to .minecraft on my desktop I tried to play minecraft and it wouldn't run period. P.S. the .minecraft that I moved was not a shortcut
#213 [00:58] <zchr> ahaha you chose the right time, xales
#214 [00:59] <zchr> where'd you get the idea to move it to the ekstop?
#215 [00:59] <zchr> *desktop?
#216 [00:59] <Fantleas> D:
#217 [00:59] <mib_h8zumu> because I was trying to create a shortcut but it wouldn't let me
#218 [01:00] <Kdizzl3> http://pastebin.com/LK5GcqiN here are the resutls of the dxdaig
#219 [01:00] <zchr> mib_h8zumu: you have to use the minecraft launcher to use minecraft
#220 [01:01] <mib_h8zumu> ....I know I opened the launcher and logged into my account; but it wouldn't connect to minecraft.net
#221 [01:01] <mib_h8zumu> It wouldn't even let me play locally...
#222 [01:01] <zchr> Kdizzl3: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx
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#224 [01:02] <zchr> mib_h8zumu: move .minecraft back to the appdata folder
#225 [01:02] <mib_h8zumu> where is default location for .minecraft
#226 [01:02] <mib_h8zumu> Win7
#227 [01:02] <zchr> ??> mib_h8zumu win/reinst
#228 [01:03] <VoxelHead> mib_h8zumu: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#229 [01:03] <VoxelHead> mib_h8zumu: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#230 [01:03] <zchr> follow the directions to get to the application data folder
#231 [01:04] <mib_h8zumu> hold on let me try that
#232 [01:04] <zchr> disregard the deleting stuff, it won't be there
#233 [01:06] <mib_h8zumu> Thanks it works locally, but still can not connect to minecraft.net
#234 [01:06] <zchr> try re-downloading the launcher.
#235 [01:07] <zchr> !up minecraft.net
#236 [01:07] <GreyBot> zchr: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#237 [01:07] <zchr> !up www.minecraft.net
#238 [01:07] <GreyBot> zchr: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#239 [01:07] <zchr> It might be a network issue. I have no advice to give on that, it could be multiple problems.
#240 [01:08] <mib_h8zumu> hold on a sec; looking something up
#241 [01:08] <almostroot> ??> mib_h8zumu win/dns
#242 [01:08] <VoxelHead> mib_h8zumu: (win/dns) To clear your DNS cache on Windows, you need to open a Command Prompt(cmd) window as Administrator (if using 7/Vista)
#243 [01:08] <VoxelHead> mib_h8zumu: (win/dns) In this window, you type "ipconfig /flushdns" (without the quotes) and press enter.
#244 [01:08] <zchr> heh, i was going to suggest that, but it could be so many other things...
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#247 [01:15] <mib_h8zumu> flushed my DNS cache; restarting now
#248 [01:16] <mib_h8zumu> if I log in again as random name I will tell you
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#251 [01:21] <mib_6zcwq4> I have black screen can someone help
#252 [01:22] <zchr> What operating system are you running?
#253 [01:22] <mib_6zcwq4> windows XP
#254 [01:22] <zchr> ??> mib_6zcwq4 win/reinst
#255 [01:22] <VoxelHead> mib_6zcwq4: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#256 [01:22] <VoxelHead> mib_6zcwq4: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#257 [01:23] <mib_6zcwq4> Thank you soo much i will do it no
#258 [01:23] <mib_6zcwq4> now
#259 [01:23] <zchr> good luck
#260 [01:25] <mib_6zcwq4> it works thank you soo much my little bro will stop bugging me now
#261 [01:25] <zchr> haha, no problem
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#263 [01:26] <zchr> welcome back
#264 [01:26] <mib_6zcwq4> bye-bye
#265 [01:27] <mib_qnw28k> This is mib_h8zumu from before; I flushed my DNS and it still will not let me connect to Minecraft.net on the client
#266 [01:32] <almostroot> mib_qnw28k: What is the exact error?
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#271 [01:55] <Zomg> hey whats the mod that like.. u can get any item while in game?
#272 [01:55] <Zomg> idk how to explain it.
#273 [01:55] <Zomg> hopefully someone understands..?
#274 [01:59] <hmw> Zomg: there is some InvEdit, but you need to close the game before accessing your inventory with it. You could use the server, copy your world into the server's directory and then use the /give command. See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Items for codes.
#275 [01:59] <Dextl> theres an in game ability to do it
#276 [01:59] <Dextl> using the /give command
#277 [01:59] <Dextl> it might be built into bukkit
#278 [01:59] <Dextl> but I forget
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#280 [02:00] <almostroot> ?? mods
#281 [02:00] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#282 [02:00] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#283 [02:00] <Ugh> Can someone tell me how to download for offline play?
#284 [02:00] <almostroot> !client
#285 [02:00] <Dextl> www.minecraft.net
#286 [02:00] <hmw> using the server would have the benefit of not needing any patches to the game.
#287 [02:01] <Ugh> I do this but then I get an error screen saying that "Could not create the Java virtual machine"
#288 [02:01] <almostroot> ??> Zomg commands
#289 [02:01] <VoxelHead> Zomg: (commands) See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries
#290 [02:02] <almostroot> ??> Ugh getjava
#291 [02:02] <VoxelHead> Ugh: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#292 [02:02] <hmw> Ugh: Playing offline works with the normal client (there is no "offline version") - if your MC can't access the MC server, it will offer a button "play offline" - you need to have logged in once before, though.
#293 [02:02] <Ugh> I have Java -__-
#294 [02:02] <Ugh> Just updated it.
#295 [02:02] <almostroot> Ugh: Please check the version to make sure it installed correctnly.
#296 [02:02] <almostroot> ??> Ugh java/version
#297 [02:02] <VoxelHead> Ugh: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#298 [02:02] <VoxelHead> Ugh: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
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#300 [02:04] <almostroot> Zomg: I apologize. Wrong link.
#301 [02:04] <mib_ds5kyw> j
#302 [02:04] <almostroot> Zomg: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands
#303 [02:04] <mib_ds5kyw> any1 there
#304 [02:04] <almostroot> ??> mib_ds5kyw ask
#305 [02:04] <VoxelHead> mib_ds5kyw: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#306 [02:04] <mib_ds5kyw> hello?
#307 [02:04] <mib_ds5kyw> tokay
#308 [02:04] <VoxelHead> mib_ds5kyw: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#309 [02:05] <mib_ds5kyw> I logged into Minecraft and it goes black 4 a couple seconds then says minecraft has crashed
#310 [02:05] <Dextl> how long has it been doing this?
#311 [02:05] <almostroot> What exactly does it say? Does it produce a file?
#312 [02:05] <mib_ds5kyw> just 2day
#313 [02:06] <almostroot> mib_ds5kyw: What exactly does it say? Does it produce a file?
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#315 [02:06] <mib_ds5kyw> it says it encountered a problem and to email support@mojang.com and copy all sum at orgs flies under it and email it
#316 [02:07] <almostroot> Can you put the information on pastern please?
#317 [02:07] <almostroot> ??> mib_ds5kyw pastebin
#318 [02:07] <VoxelHead> mib_ds5kyw: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you do, and we can see what you have pasted.
#319 [02:07] <mib_ds5kyw> um okay
#320 [02:07] <almostroot> I hate autocorrect sometimes.
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#322 [02:08] <dr_bibble> hello
#323 [02:08] <almostroot> 'ello.
#324 [02:08] <dr_bibble> i have BSOD problem
#325 [02:08] <mib_ds5kyw> okay i heve
#326 [02:08] <mib_ds5kyw> thave
#327 [02:08] <mib_ds5kyw> thave
#328 [02:08] <almostroot> mib_ds5kyw: Can you please provide the link?
#329 [02:08] <dr_bibble> i've been on the help page and tried every solution and nothing worked
#330 [02:09] <almostroot> dr_bibble: BSOD is an operating system issue, not Minecraft.
#331 [02:09] <mib_ds5kyw> what link
#332 [02:09] <dr_bibble> how do i solve it ?
#333 [02:09] <almostroot> mib_ds5kyw: The link to the pastern page.
#334 [02:10] <Dextl> dr_bibble the problem could be literally anything in your computer
#335 [02:10] <dr_bibble> cause it's only doing it from my account
#336 [02:10] <almostroot> dr_bibble: Update your graphics card drivers and Java. Otherwise, there is no way we could diagnose the issue.
#337 [02:10] <dr_bibble> if i start the game from my sister's account it works fine
#338 [02:10] <almostroot> dr_bibble: From her minecraft account or her account on the computer?
#339 [02:10] <dr_bibble> graphics card is ok and java is already at the latest
#340 [02:11] <dr_bibble> on the computer
#341 [02:11] <almostroot> It's a computer issue, not a minecraft one. Take it to someone to get looked at, or create a new account and delete your current one.
#342 [02:12] <dr_bibble> ...... wow this sounds just like the ring of death on the Xbox......
#343 [02:13] <dr_bibble> -_-......
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#345 [02:14] <dr_bibble> there is still one thing i don't get, why would it work on my syster's account. and why did it start only since beta?
#346 [02:14] <almostroot> dr_bibble: It's an issue with your computer, NOT Minecraft.
#347 [02:14] <dr_bibble> i know
#348 [02:15] <dr_bibble> i just think that more heads is better than one
#349 [02:15] <almostroot> This is #minecrafthelp and you're not paying me to fix your computer.
#350 [02:16] <mib_4r61g4> This is mib_h8zumu VoxelHead; the guys who was in here bout an hour ago and you said to flush my DNS cache to be able to connect to minecraft.net on the client, but it didn't work. Any more suggestions?
#351 [02:16] <dr_bibble> well excuse me princess!
#352 [02:16] <almostroot> mib_4r61g4: VoxelHead is a bot.
#353 [02:16] <almostroot> mib_4r61g4: Does www.minecraft.net work when you go to it in a web browser?
#354 [02:16] <mib_4r61g4> well then can anyone else care to help :(
#355 [02:17] <mib_4r61g4> Yes I can log in to minecraft.net on the browser but not the client
#356 [02:17] <mib_4r61g4> (launcher)
#357 [02:17] <almostroot> Have you been able to log in before?
#358 [02:17] <mib_4r61g4> Yes but not since right after Alpha
#359 [02:18] <almostroot> You know the current release is at the beta stage, correct? Alpha was a while ago.What operating system are you using?
#360 [02:18] <mib_4r61g4> Win7
#361 [02:18] <almostroot> Delete the current launcher and download a new one from here
#362 [02:18] <almostroot> !client
#363 [02:18] <mib_4r61g4> Yeah I know; my launcher is stuck at 1.5.5 too
#364 [02:19] <almostroot> Then perform these steps and try the new launcher.
#365 [02:19] <almostroot> ??> mib_4r61g4 win/reinst
#366 [02:19] <VoxelHead> mib_4r61g4: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#367 [02:19] <VoxelHead> mib_4r61g4: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#368 [02:22] <mib_4r61g4> Tried deleting everything but the saves, and not I can't play locally anymore *sigh*
#369 [02:22] <mib_4r61g4> now*
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#372 [02:22] <lyanor> hello
#373 [02:23] <almostroot> mib_4r61g4: Did you download and run the new client?
#374 [02:23] <lyanor> almosttroot i found my problem... my BSOD was due to a texturepack problem
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#376 [02:24] <lyanor> thats why it would break after teh mojang screen after login
#377 [02:24] <almostroot> Thought I was a princess.
#378 [02:24] <mib_4r61g4> Yes it's the 4th time I've done it, and now I can't connect + I can't play locally anymore :(
#379 [02:24] <lyanor> sorry about that to much zelda animated series in the past fiew days
#380 [02:25] <almostroot> mib_4r61g4: Is it connecting and downloading though?
#381 [02:25] <mib_4r61g4> ???
#382 [02:25] <almostroot> mib_4r61g4: Is the client connecting and downloading the new files after you deleted everything but saves in the minecraft folder?
#383 [02:26] <mib_4r61g4> No it will not connect to minecraft.net
#384 [02:26] <almostroot> And you're using the new-style launcher, NOT the old one?
#385 [02:26] <lyanor> so if ever some one has a BSOD you can tell them to hit option (right on top of login on the main screen) and go check the minecraft folder and delete all texture pack
#386 [02:27] <mib_4r61g4> Old Style? Does the new launcher have the log in info on the bottom of the screen?
#387 [02:27] <Dextl> lyanor are you sure you know what BSOD means? because usually if your texturpack is outdated its just a black screen....
#388 [02:27] <almostroot> mib_4r61g4: It does, and there's a page displaying the most recent changes in a larger area above that.
#389 [02:28] <mib_4r61g4> The log in info is on the bottom but the minecraft updates your talking about the images always appear broken; I always see some XHTML <body> tags and such
#390 [02:28] <mib_4r61g4> I can screenshot if if you want
#391 [02:29] <almostroot> mib_4r61g4: Do you have/know what teamviewer is?
#392 [02:29] <mib_4r61g4> nope
#393 [02:29] <almostroot> ??> mib_4r61g4 teamviewer
#394 [02:29] <VoxelHead> mib_4r61g4: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#395 [02:29] <VoxelHead> mib_4r61g4: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#396 [02:29] <mib_4r61g4> remote desktop
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#398 [02:30] <mib_4r61g4> I'll be honest; that sort of thing creeps me the hell out though
#399 [02:30] <almostroot> If you download that and PM me your ID and password, I'll attempt to fix your issue. OTherwise, I need sleep. :/
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#401 [02:30] <Dextl> so my minecraft crashes. It been going on since the Halloween update. I come in here every so often to see if anyone has a new idea on to fix it. It will crash in one of a few ways. My computer will lock up. Minecraft will just stop responding and ill have to kill it in task manager. Or Minecraft will just turn to a black screen.
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#403 [02:31] <mib_4r61g4> as long as you tell me what your doing while your using my computer as a zombie and keep this IRC channel open, or PM me in another
#404 [02:31] <almostroot> Dextl: Latest java version and graphics card drivers?
#405 [02:31] <Dextl> yes
#406 [02:31] <mib_0hg7ot> hello i got some problem that i cant run minecraft can anyone help me pls
#407 [02:32] <almostroot> Dextl: The halloween update made a lot of changes. :/ Including some "optimizations".
#408 [02:32] <Dextl> yeah, I know
#409 [02:32] <almostroot> mib_4r61g4: Whatever makes you feel comfortable.
#410 [02:32] <Dextl> I just dont know how to fix it
#411 [02:32] <almostroot> Dextl: Try a complete reinstall?
#412 [02:32] <Dextl> I have
#413 [02:32] <almostroot> mib_0hg7ot: Be more specific please.
#414 [02:32] <mib_0hg7ot> yes
#415 [02:32] <mib_0hg7ot> its about minecraft.jar
#416 [02:33] <almostroot> mib_0hg7ot: Be more specific please.
#417 [02:33] <mib_0hg7ot> when im clicking mine craft winrar is opening
#418 [02:34] <almostroot> mib_0hg7ot: Then what happens?
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#420 [02:34] <mib_4r61g4> almostroot: hold on I'm downloading teamviewer now
#421 [02:34] <mib_0hg7ot> then im stuck there i cant open minecraft
#422 [02:34] <almostroot> mib_4r61g4: Alrighty.
#423 [02:35] <almostroot> mib_0hg7ot: What does the screen look like? Does it crash? Give you an error? stall?
#424 [02:35] <mib_4r61g4> almost root: PM me so I can tell you my ID and Password
#425 [02:35] <kendle> Fatal error occured[1] Unable to load logo and progressbar images. Can anyone help?
#426 [02:36] <mib_0hg7ot> it open winrar and the all of the contents of minecraft in it
#427 [02:36] <almostroot> kendle: When does that error happen, and does it create a text file?
#428 [02:36] <almostroot> mib_0hg7ot: What operating system are you using?
#429 [02:36] <mib_0hg7ot> windows 7
#430 [02:37] <kendle> when i try to play single player outdated version for free
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#433 [02:37] <kendle> its in red writing
#434 [02:37] <Dextl> kendle: do you own a minecraft account?
#435 [02:37] <kendle> yes
#436 [02:38] <mib_0hg7ot> winrar opens minecraft XD
#437 [02:38] <Dextl> kendle: why dont you use the most recent version of minecraft?
#438 [02:38] <kendle> it dont want to pay
#439 [02:38] <Dextl> kendle: so you don't own a minecraft account
#440 [02:38] <Dextl> kendle: or rather, I should say
#441 [02:39] <Dextl> kendle: you don't own minecraft
#442 [02:39] <kendle> i do but i play the version in small letters on bottom of scennish
#443 [02:39] <Dextl> kendle: are you referring to the timed demo?
#444 [02:40] <kendle> maybe
#445 [02:40] <almostroot> kendle: Classic is only available online now.
#446 [02:40] <kendle> i started playing yesterday avo
#447 [02:40] <kendle> what do you mean?
#448 [02:41] <Dextl> kendle: you should purchase a copy of minecraft if you are interested in playing the current verstion of the game
#449 [02:41] <kendle> how?
#450 [02:41] <kendle> much does it cost
#451 [02:41] <Dextl> it costs 20 euros
#452 [02:41] <Dextl> http://www.minecraft.net/prepurchase.jsp
#453 [02:41] <kendle> in australian?
#454 [02:42] <kendle> anyway, thanks for your help guys:D
#455 [02:42] <kendle> see ya
#456 [02:42] <Dextl> $27.12 right now
#457 [02:42] <almostroot> ??> mib_0hg7ot win/client
#458 [02:42] <VoxelHead> mib_0hg7ot: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#459 [02:43] <almostroot> Use that version if you're running Windows.
#460 [02:43] <Dextl> almostroot: whenever I come in this channel someone seems to be trying to get support for minecraft without owning it
#461 [02:43] <Dextl> almostroot: how often does it usually happen?
#462 [02:44] <almostroot> Dextl: Bad timing.
#463 [02:45] <Dextl> I see
#464 [02:45] <Dextl> almostroot do you happen to have any ideas on how to get my minecraft working?
#465 [02:45] <Dextl> almostroot everything is up to date
#466 [02:46] <almostroot> Dextl: Running Windows?
#467 [02:46] <Dextl> Windows 7 64bit ultimate edition
#468 [02:46] <almostroot> Have you tried using the jar with a .bat file?
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#470 [02:47] <mib_0hg7ot> ty ill try these later at home
#471 [02:48] <Dextl> I don't think so
#472 [02:48] <almostroot> Dextl: Try these steps:
#473 [02:48] <almostroot> Make a folder called Minecraft somewhere on your computer. Download the following and move it to that directory: http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
#474 [02:48] <almostroot> Open Notepad, and in there add this line without quotes: "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft.jar" Then, save the file in the Minecraft folder, naming it minecraft.bat and change the File type to All files. Double-click minecraft.bat to try and run the game.
#475 [02:48] <almostroot> mib_0hg7ot: Good luck.
#476 [02:48] <almostroot> You don't scare me VoxelHead!
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#478 [02:50] <Dextl> almostroot: in the folder .minecraft/bin?
#479 [02:50] <Dextl> oh
#480 [02:50] <Dextl> wait
#481 [02:50] <Dextl> I misread
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#483 [02:52] <Dextl> almostroot: didnt work
#484 [02:52] <almostroot> Dextl: What happened?
#485 [02:53] <Dextl> I got an error message from the quick tray
#486 [02:53] <almostroot> What message?
#487 [02:53] <Dextl> the video drivers have stopped responding and ahve recovered
#488 [02:53] <almostroot> Mind giving me a dxdiag report?
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#490 [02:53] <almostroot> ??> Dextl win/dxdiag
#491 [02:53] <VoxelHead> Dextl: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#492 [02:53] <VoxelHead> Dextl: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#494 [02:54] <Dextl> http://pastebin.com/q6P7g5BQ
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#496 [02:55] * goninan_bl00d|X201| pokes around
#496 [02:55] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> Anyone here running a server/has run a server before?
#497 [02:56] <almostroot> Dextl: Mind a teamviewer session?
#498 [02:56] <Dextl> sure
#499 [02:56] <almostroot> goninan_bl00d|X201|: What's the issue?
#500 [02:56] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> I just want to know whether the server app supports more than one thread
#501 [02:57] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> I've been told they like having access to copious amounts of RAM
#502 [02:57] <almostroot> goninan_bl00d|X201|: Not minecraft itself, but Java does garbage collection that supports multiple threads.
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#504 [02:57] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> nothing about whether it'd appreciate more than one core, though.
#505 [02:57] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> almostroot, assuming I give the JVM access to two cores it should be able to make use of 'em?
#506 [02:58] <almostroot> I have eight cores in my server so I run garbage collection on 4, allocate it 10GB of memory to start, and run it from a 6GB ramdisk,.
#507 [02:58] <Dextl> almostroot: I'm using mibbit and can't figure out how to get pming to work if you don't mind?
#508 [02:58] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> Dextl, right click the user's name and a menu should pop up
#509 [02:58] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> or just /msg nick message
#510 [02:58] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> where nick is their nick and message is what you wanna say
#511 [02:58] <Dextl> thanks
#512 [02:58] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> almostroot, ah. Similar to what I'm running so it should be fine.
#513 [02:59] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> 6GB of RAM should be enough for a 6-slot server, I'm assuming?
#514 [02:59] <almostroot> I think most people run it with less than a gig for less than 12 users.
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#516 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> Gah...
#517 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> Figure about 100-150K of RAM per user.
#518 [02:59] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> o_o
#519 [03:00] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> So 6GB should be plenty. Even 4GB or so.
#520 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Less if you do copious amounts of garbage collection
#521 [03:00] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> Ah.
#522 [03:00] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> And the JVM takes care of that?
#523 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> With the right arguments, yes
#524 [03:00] <almostroot> I've kind of said screw it to GC jsut to get the CPU power.
#525 [03:02] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> Ah, so GCing helps.
#526 [03:02] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> Well, I've got plenty of RAM to spare so I'll give it 4 and see how it goes.
#527 [03:02] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> If need be I can give that node up to 8
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#530 [03:04] <almostroot> Dextl: You're ready to go.
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#533 [03:05] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> Anyway, thanks guys for the heads-up. I'll give it a shot and see how it goes.
#534 [03:05] <goninan_bl00d|X201|> Fingers crossed it doesn't break.
#535 [03:07] <Dextl> almostroot: it has crashed
#536 [03:13] <almostroot> Dextl: Still working?
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#538 [03:17] <Dextl> Almostroot: it crashed 15seconds after
#539 [03:17] <Dextl> almostroot: also, I really do appreciate your help
#540 [03:17] <Dextl> almostroot: minecraft has been very frustrating for me
#541 [03:18] <almostroot> Dextl: O.o You have ridiculously new drivers, and I just updated Java. Running it form the .jar with two gigs of memory. Is that it's normal behavoir?
#542 [03:18] <Dextl> it crashing?
#543 [03:18] <Dextl> it always crashes
#544 [03:18] <Dextl> it didn't used to
#545 [03:19] <Dextl> sometimes I will get lucky and I can play for ten minutes
#546 [03:19] <almostroot> Did anything change between it working and not?
#547 [03:19] <Dextl> the halloween update
#548 [03:19] <almostroot> Hmmm. Let me try one more time.
#549 [03:19] <Dextl> alright
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#551 [03:26] <Scix> Hello? I just got my own copy of MC (been trying out on a friend's acct) verified e-mail and all, logged in, but when I run the game I get the little didn't buy/different location text, and cannot seem to connect to a multiplayer server. What can I do?
#552 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Try a fresh install of minecraft. What operating system are you on?
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#554 [03:32] <MCG7> Hey! I'm experiencing some pretty low FPS since I updated to 1.6.6.
#555 [03:32] <MCG7> Anyone know any fixes?
#556 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> Turn down graphics inside minecraft? Try the optimine and optifog mods if that doesn’t work.
#557 [03:33] <MCG7> I'm pretty sure it doesn't have too much to do with my PC. 2.8 Ghz i7, 8 gigs of RAM, ATI Radeon HD 5850...I ran all the high settings and even custom graphic packs before the update.
#558 [03:33] <MCG7> How does on install optifog and optimine?
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#560 [03:34] <forrest> can i as something?
#561 [03:34] <MCG7> Sure.
#562 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> Could you try wiping all the custom files from the minecraft folder before trying again?
#563 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> Let minecraft download fresh files for you.
#564 [03:35] <forrest> if i join my friends server with hamachi, i fall donw the ground
#565 [03:36] <Scix> Sorry, stepped away. Windows. Should I just download and install it again fresh from Minecraft.net?
#566 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> Scix - Do you know where the .minecraft folder is?
#567 [03:36] <forrest> the first time i joined there weren't problems
#568 [03:36] <MCG7> I deleted my entire Minecraft folder and forced the update. Backed up my saves naturally, but still no luck. :-(
#569 [03:36] <Scix> I can backup the map I've been playing on for a few minutes, no big loss.
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#571 [03:37] <Scix> @GreyVulpine
#572 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> Scix - Try deleting the .minecraft folder (saving saves) and redownloading everything.
#573 [03:37] <Scix> I do
#574 [03:37] <Scix> okay, will do. Cross fingers.
#575 [03:37] <forrest> if i join my friends server with hamachi, i fall down the ground, the first time i joined there weren't problems
#576 [03:37] <MCG7> Back up the save, and then delete the folder. Minecraft will redownload itself in a matter of seconds. Sadly, that didn't fix my problem. I'm still geting around 12 FPS. Turned the settings all the way down, same problem.
#577 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> MCG7 - Doing anything special with your ATI control panel, are you forcing any settings in there?
#578 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> forrest - We don’t really support hamachi-run servers here. It adds an unneeded layer of crap that can and does cause problems.
#579 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> forrest - Tell your friend to look at port forwarding, then we can talk
#580 [03:39] <MCG7> Everything under the Gaming Tab (Anti aliasing and etc.) all say "use application settings. So I don't believe I am.
#581 [03:39] <almostroot> GreyVulpine: Seen an issue with an nVidia card crashing with a "Too many errors" issue? Heat is good, java/minecraft golden. Just the GFX card which runs fine in other games.
#582 [03:40] <Dextl> almostroot: I havent seen that one before, by the way
#583 [03:40] <MCG7> I have over 120 hours logged in this game, it has played just fine in the past. I'm not entirely sure what the difference would be here if not the update.
#584 [03:40] <Dextl> almostroot: it also crashed a lot cleaner then it typically does
#585 [03:40] <MCG7> Unless it is clashing with a recent driver update for my gpu.
#586 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> almostroot - “Too many errors”?
#587 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> almostroot - Got a screenshot or something I can have a look at?
#588 [03:40] <forrest> he forwarded his ports...
#589 [03:41] <almostroot> Dextl: Think you can get it to reproduce again?
#590 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> forrest - Then there’s no reason to use hamachi
#591 [03:41] <Dextl> almostroot: I can just run around and see what happens
#592 [03:41] <almostroot> Dextl: The only time I've seen something similar was with a workstation card, an nVidia Quadro 5600 that was sold to us "new" but was used. Pissed me off to drop a grand on that. Reversed the charges.
#593 [03:41] <Scix> seems to have worked, thanks!
#594 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> Scix - Glad to help
#595 [03:41] <forrest> otherwise, i couldn't log in to his server...
#596 [03:41] <almostroot> ??> forrest hamachi
#597 [03:41] <almostroot> ??> forrest /fubarhamachi
#598 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> MCG7 - Could you try turning down the graphics inside minecraft, just hit the performance tab and set it from balanced to power saver
#599 [03:42] <Dextl> almostroot: I did RMA this card once. the one I got back was def refurbished...
#600 [03:42] <almostroot> ??> forrest fubar/hamachi
#601 [03:42] <VoxelHead> forrest: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#602 [03:42] <VoxelHead> forrest: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#603 [03:42] <MCG7> I've tried turning that as well as the draw distance down, and I still get 12 to 14 fps.
#604 [03:42] <forrest> ok ty,
#605 [03:42] <GreyVulpine> MCG7 - Strange, hmm.
#606 [03:43] <MCG7> Would using the 64 bit version of Java make a difference?
#607 [03:43] <almostroot> Dextl: If it is still in warranty, may want to consider it. Should have looked in the error log before dismissing it, but I was in the "Windows so I click buttons" mode, lol.
#608 [03:43] <GreyVulpine> MCG7 - Sometimes it does, but not in the case of FPS.
#609 [03:43] <MCG7> Another note to be made, my "chunk updates" when I hit F3 is also locked at 12 -14
#610 [03:44] <Dextl> almostroot: its two months out, unfortuantly
#611 [03:45] <Dextl> I enjoy that line "As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet"
#612 [03:45] <MCG7> Well, I just updated to the 64bit version of Java and boom, no more FPS issues.
#613 [03:45] <almostroot> Dextl: Did you grab it on NewEgg or a different decent vendor? nVidia may cover it since you have to RMA it once already.
#614 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> Interesting.
#615 [03:45] <MCG7> Add that to your list of things that might help people one day...hopefully this fix isn't temporary.
#616 [03:45] <GreyVulpine> Thanks for letting us know
#617 [03:46] <MCG7> Not sure if it was because reinstalling Java just cleared some memory and cache settings or what, but I'm not complaining.
#618 [03:46] <m0nk> "windows so i click button mode" lol gotta add that to my lulz txt file
#619 [03:46] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, there’s a reason why “Reinstall java” and “Update video drivers” is one of our first steps in correcting minecraft problems around here
#620 [03:46] * almostroot wishes Apple would stop developing their own version of Java so he could run the altest to resovle some of his issues.
#620 [03:47] <Dextl> Almostroot: Its from newegg, yes
#621 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> almostroot - They did..
#622 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> They’re no longer producing java on their own
#623 [03:47] <almostroot> GreyVulpine: Oracle hasn't picked it up fully. Still running update 24
#624 [03:47] * GreyVulpine nods
#624 [03:47] <GreyVulpine> Back in oct or so, they made the announcement
#625 [03:48] <Dextl> Almostroot, GreyVulpine: http://imgur.com/mSsKD
#626 [03:48] <almostroot> m0nk: It's a common syndrome when we convert the Windows users to Linux. I know I've really won when I see them realize they have to use the mouse and scoff.
#627 [03:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#628 [03:49] <almostroot> Dextl: So, I think I can explain that error from anecdotal evidence....
#629 [03:50] <Dextl> almostroot: it has only happened on your server
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#631 [03:50] <Dextl> almostroot so far, atleast
#632 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> Dextl - You’re not overclocking your system or your video card, right?
#633 [03:51] <Dextl> greyvulpine, correct
#634 [03:51] <GreyVulpine> Running stock settings?
#635 [03:51] <Dextl> everything is as it was out of box
#636 [03:51] <almostroot> Dextl: Single player or try s.nerd.nu
#637 [03:52] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps try an openGL benchmark, like furmark: http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/
#638 [03:52] <almostroot> I suggested running FurMark overnight, lol.
#639 [03:52] <GreyVulpine> It’ll put a load on that video card, if you get any artifacts, or it crashes again. there’s something...
#640 [03:53] <GreyVulpine> I RMAed my EVGA video card a few months ago. they gave me back a faulty video card that artifacted only on OpenGL apps
#641 [03:53] <GreyVulpine> I RMAed that, next video card did the same thing.
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#643 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> Wasn’t until my 4th RMA in a row, that I finally got a good vid card back from EVGA. Only thanks to Furmark, that I could diagnose it
#644 [03:56] <almostroot> My theory is that the 200 series was where double point precision was integrated. Normally it's not utilized outside of GPGPU computing, but the error checking mechanisms are still running. The card keeps returning faulty values, the error checking picks it up, and the software kills the application running the code.
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#648 [03:57] <Dextl> Minecraft crashed in such a way that I was forced to restart my system
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#650 [03:58] <almostroot> Dextl: Details on that one?
#651 [03:58] <Dextl> I was on s.nerd.nu
#652 [03:58] <Dextl> basically
#653 [03:58] <Dextl> the screen flashed a bit
#654 [03:58] <tomatobaby> I need the bukkit chat
#655 [03:58] <Dextl> sometimes it will do that and then it will be fine
#656 [03:58] <almostroot> My theory is that the 200 series was where double point precision was integrated. Normally it's not utilized outside of GPGPU computing, but the error checking mechanisms are still running. The card keeps returning faulty values, the error checking picks it up, and the software kills the application running the code.
#657 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> tomatobaby - #bukkit
#658 [03:58] <Dextl> other times, my system will freeze
#659 [03:58] <tomatobaby> Can some one link me to the bukkit chat?
#660 [03:58] <GreyVulpine> tomatobaby - #bukkit
#661 [03:59] <almostroot> tomatobaby: Type /join #bukkit
#662 [03:59] <Dextl> almostroot: so basically, becuase I picked a GTX 200 series card, Im not allowed to play minecraft
#663 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> mibbit will highlight the #minecrafthelp channel name
#664 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> er, dang autocomplete
#665 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> Dextl - If it’s still under warranty, I’d go for an RMA
#666 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> Try a furmark benchmark to narrow it down to OpenGL
#667 [04:00] <Dextl> GreyVulpine: Its from EVGA, I called them last week about RMAing it and they wont
#668 [04:00] <almostroot> Dextl: No, because you have a fault 200 series grpahics card that, since Minecraft is not fully optimized, forces the GPU to run messy code, which results in enough errors that either a) error handling picks it up, or b) driver causes system to lock up.
#669 [04:00] <Dextl> greyvulpine its 2 months out of warenty
#670 [04:00] <almostroot> Dextl: Where'd you buy it from
#671 [04:01] <Dextl> newegg
#672 [04:01] <almostroot> A year and two months ago?
#673 [04:01] <GreyVulpine> Dextl - They won’t? EVGA usually has a lifetime warranty on cards.
#674 [04:01] <Dextl> I didnt register it right away
#675 [04:01] <Dextl> so I only got a year
#676 [04:01] <GreyVulpine> Oh, bleh
#677 [04:02] <Dextl> yeah
#678 [04:02] <Dextl> its very unfortuante
#679 [04:02] <Dextl> c'est le vie
#680 [04:02] <almostroot> Ceci n'est pas une Minecraft.
#681 [04:03] <Dextl> well, not for me at least
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#683 [10:33] <Steve[cug]> are they up to date?
#684 [10:33] <MCmodelsrock> Steve Yes they are up to date
#685 [10:34] <TheGuestPerson> Uuuurrrrgh.
#686 [10:34] <MCmodelsrock> Steve I have not installed Windows 7 SP1 yet, can that be a problem
#687 [10:34] <TheGuestPerson> I'm going to buy a mac and play this game.
#688 [10:34] <Steve[cug]> MCmodelsrock: can you paste the error?
#689 [10:35] <MCmodelsrock> Steve # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x00000000500bee3f, pid=5256, tid=7384 # # JRE version: 6.0_20-b02 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (16.3-b01 mixed mode windows-amd64 ) # Problematic frame: # C [ig4icd64.dll+0x3ee3f] # # If you would like to submit a bug
#690 [10:35] <Steve[cug]> i didnt mean paste here :-p
#691 [10:36] <Steve[cug]> MCmodelsrock: looks like you got a gfx driver issue :-p
#692 [10:36] <MCmodelsrock> Steve I dont want to paste more, it has my full first and last name in it
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#694 [10:36] <onix> Its me agian
#695 [10:36] <Steve[cug]> MCmodelsrock: looks like you got Intel integrated gfx card
#696 [10:36] <onix> flabber
#697 [10:36] <onix> gabber
#698 [10:37] <MCmodelsrock> Steve I guess
#699 [10:37] <onix> its dosent WORKKK
#700 [10:37] <onix> OMG
#701 [10:37] <onix> HELL
#702 [10:37] <onix> HELLL
#703 [10:37] <MCmodelsrock> ?????
#704 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> Please stop spamming
#705 [10:37] <onix> Isrry
#706 [10:37] <onix> but it dosent work
#707 [10:37] <Steve[cug]> MCmodelsrock: I think you may wanna take another look to update your driver, just google the model number of your pc
#708 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> onix - Could you get teamviewer, install it, and PM one of us here the info
#709 [10:38] <GreyVulpine> ??> onix teamviewer
#710 [10:38] <VoxelHead> onix: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#711 [10:38] <VoxelHead> onix: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#712 [10:38] <MCmodelsrock> Steve I do have 7 updates for my PC......
#713 [10:38] <onix> Deleteing .minecraft folder
#714 [10:38] <MCmodelsrock> Thats why they call is windows 7 :P
#715 [10:38] <Steve[cug]> MCmodelsrock: graphics drivers are diff
#716 [10:38] <MCmodelsrock> Steve Oh, Where can i get them?
#717 [10:39] <Steve[cug]> typically your PC manufacturers site
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#719 [10:39] <MCmodelsrock> Steve Thanks
#720 [10:39] <Steve[cug]> http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect
#721 [10:39] <Steve[cug]> try that too
#722 [10:39] <onix> steve help mee too
#723 [10:39] <Steve[cug]> yay grapgics drivers!
#724 [10:39] <MCmodelsrock> Steve thanks
#725 [10:40] <Steve[cug]> np man
#726 [10:40] <Steve[cug]> onix: issue?
#727 [10:40] <MCmodelsrock> Ill try that
#728 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Couldn’t delete the .minecraft folder
#729 [10:40] <Steve[cug]> OH
#730 [10:40] <Steve[cug]> yeah that one...
#731 [10:40] <Steve[cug]> what i wouldn't give for a proper unix environment to fix that issue
#732 [10:41] <Steve[cug]> sudo rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin
#733 [10:41] <Steve[cug]> :-p
#734 [10:41] <onix> ?
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#736 [10:41] <Steve[cug]> onix: nothing, dont worry
#737 [10:41] <Steve[cug]> just me griping about windows
#738 [10:41] <zucchini> hi
#739 [10:41] <onix> DONT WORRY ?!?!?!?
#740 [10:41] <zucchini> can i ask for coding help here too or??
#741 [10:42] <onix> im fuc*ing lost minecraft forever
#742 [10:42] <Steve[cug]> zucchini: i can try to help
#743 [10:42] <Steve[cug]> im mostly a python guy :-p
#744 [10:42] <zucchini> ok so um
#745 [10:42] <onix> PLEASE HELP ME :'(
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#747 [10:42] <oldtopmanserver> onix: You can't delete your folder?
#748 [10:42] <Steve[cug]> onix: you need to figure out your permissions issue....I think Grey wants you to install teamviewer man
#749 [10:42] <valdorian> stop
#750 [10:42] <zucchini> i'm creating a new tybe of a BlockStep called PowerSlab, essentialy, i can't check if the block under is redstonewire
#751 [10:43] <oldtopmanserver> ??> zucchini mods
#752 [10:43] <VoxelHead> zucchini: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#753 [10:43] <VoxelHead> zucchini: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#754 [10:43] <oldtopmanserver> derp
#755 [10:43] <Steve[cug]> zucchini: yeah thats beyond me :-p
#756 [10:43] * oldtopmanserver thought it was more friendly
#756 [10:43] <zucchini> it's not bukkit but yeah
#757 [10:43] <Steve[cug]> oldtopmanserver: ;)
#758 [10:43] <zucchini> thx i guess :P
#759 [10:43] <oldtopmanserver> zucchini: Anyway, head on down to those chans and ask there
#760 [10:43] <Steve[cug]> zucchini: yeah, sry man
#761 [10:43] <onix> :'(
#762 [10:44] <oldtopmanserver> Steve[cug]: Hi!
#763 [10:44] <Steve[cug]> I know nothing about java dev or how mc & bukkit are built
#764 [10:44] <Steve[cug]> oldtopmanserver: heya man
#765 [10:44] <oldtopmanserver> onix: Press F8, log in as administrator, delete the folder
#766 [10:44] <oldtopmanserver> Steve[cug]: I'm trying to remember where I know you from.
#767 [10:45] <onix> when
#768 [10:45] <oldtopmanserver> onix: as the computer boots
#769 [10:45] <onix> i click F8
#770 [10:45] <Steve[cug]> oldtopmanserver: any other handles you go by?
#771 [10:45] <onix> kk
#772 [10:45] <oldtopmanserver> Steve[cug]: A few. Whats up?
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#774 [10:45] <Steve[cug]> nm man, just taking a lazy morning :-p
#775 [10:45] <oldtopmanserver> hmm
#776 [10:46] <mib_f3devv> Can anyone help me with Minecraft on a Mac OSX?
#777 [10:46] <Steve[cug]> oldtopmanserver: well Im on freenode, efnet, and oftc as well
#778 [10:47] <Steve[cug]> mib_f3devv: whats the prob?
#779 [10:47] <mib_f3devv> Well i downloadd the trail from minecraft.net
#780 [10:47] <mib_f3devv> And i ran it like i should but everytime i open it closes
#781 [10:48] <mib_f3devv> Like i see the Minecraft box then it just closes and i dont know why
#782 [10:48] <Steve[cug]> mib_f3devv: ok, so you downloaded the minecraft.app?
#783 [10:48] <CoDDog> Yes
#784 [10:48] <Steve[cug]> can you try re-downloading it?
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#787 [10:49] <CoDDog> I tried that a couple of times and i looked on the help page and all of my things are the latest version
#788 [10:49] <Steve[cug]> kk
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#790 [10:49] <Steve[cug]> can you open console
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#792 [10:49] <kendle> Me agian
#793 [10:49] <kendle> onix
#794 [10:49] <CoDDog> Sorry i have no idea what that means xD
#795 [10:49] <kendle> flabbergabber
#796 [10:49] <Steve[cug]> Command+Space then type "console"
#797 [10:49] <CoDDog> ok i will try
#798 [10:50] <kendle> Help ?
#799 [10:50] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: kk
#800 [10:50] <kendle> Help
#801 [10:50] <kendle> ?
#802 [10:50] <GreyVulpine> kendle - With?
#803 [10:50] <Steve[cug]> kendle: are you the only user on the system?
#804 [10:50] <kendle> no
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#806 [10:50] <mib_vxtgoz> Sorry i am back
#807 [10:51] <Steve[cug]> kendle: then you need to login as the admin user and try to delete it
#808 [10:51] <almostroot> .me is alive!
#809 [10:51] <kendle> ok
#810 [10:51] <CoDDog> Do you mean Terminal?
#811 [10:51] <Steve[cug]> almostroot: but not root
#812 [10:51] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: no, console
#813 [10:51] <almostroot> Steve[cug]: Could always get it. ;P
#814 [10:51] <Steve[cug]> almostroot: ;)
#815 [10:51] <CoDDog> Humm is it on my mac or did i download it with Minecraft?
#816 [10:52] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: its part of the os
#817 [10:52] <CoDDog> ok ok let me check again
#818 [10:52] <CoDDog> Thanks
#819 [10:52] <CoDDog> BTW
#820 [10:52] <CoDDog> Allright i just opened it...
#821 [10:53] <Steve[cug]> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/screenshot20110627at951.png/
#822 [10:53] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: ok, lol
#823 [10:53] <CoDDog> hahaha
#824 [10:53] <Steve[cug]> do you see anything that says minecraft or java?
#825 [10:53] <CoDDog> Now what.... O.o
#826 [10:53] <Steve[cug]> look in CrashReporter as well
#827 [10:54] <CoDDog> NO
#828 [10:54] <almostroot> I need a VoxelHead for my students. >.<
#829 [10:54] <CoDDog> Oops sorry
#830 [10:54] <CoDDog> No
#831 [10:54] <CoDDog> And okay ill look there
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#833 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> No taking vox away from us!
#834 [10:54] * GreyVulpine clings to VoxelHead
#834 [10:55] * almostroot will steal VoxelHead and fill him with Linux troubleshooting.
#834 [10:55] <CoDDog> Yeah Steve i cant seem to find anything with Minecraft and i cant find crashreporter....
#835 [10:55] <almostroot> Fscking seventh week, and this kid can't use SSH and forgets his password.
#836 [10:55] * GreyVulpine snrks
#836 [10:56] <Steve[cug]> ok
#837 [10:56] <oldtopmanserver> Steve[cug]: Is my alternate handle Roz, Ruggsy, or Lansiir?
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#839 [10:56] <nev> hi guys
#840 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> ‘lo
#841 [10:56] <nev> i need some help with Cannot Create Java Virtual Machine on WinXP
#842 [10:57] <oldtopmanserver> nev: Have you installed java?
#843 [10:57] <nev> yeah
#844 [10:57] <oldtopmanserver> afk
#845 [10:57] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: open a finder window, then go Command+Shift+G
#846 [10:57] <Steve[cug]> then http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/screenshot20110627at955.png/
#847 [10:57] <CoDDog> ok
#848 [10:58] <Steve[cug]> is there stuff in there?
#849 [10:58] <nev> i got java 1.6 verified it with "java -version" in CMD.EXE
#850 [10:58] <CoDDog> it says go to the folder
#851 [10:58] <Steve[cug]> yeah
#852 [10:58] <nev> i was able to play it fine untill a few days ago - since then ive been getting the error message
#853 [10:58] <CoDDog> Oh hoold on
#854 [10:58] <Steve[cug]> :-p
#855 [10:59] <almostroot> nev: Did anything change on your system?
#856 [10:59] <nev> i think it happened after i installed a version of Net Framework can't be sure
#857 [10:59] <CoDDog> Yes there is
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#859 [10:59] <CoDDog> 7 to be exact
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#861 [10:59] <nev> i installed that new MTG game which made me install some kind of Net Framework
#862 [11:00] <almostroot> nev: Can you play it in your web browser? And have you tried updating your graphics drivers?
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#864 [11:01] <LukHof> okay, back to my problem with minecraft SMP server setup...i updated the firmware, forwarded 25565 UDP/TCP -> router reboot...next was: windows firewall forward 25565 UDP/TCP....still others get a timeout while trying to connect
#865 [11:01] <CoDDog> @Steve i see some stuff
#866 [11:01] <CoDDog> lol
#867 [11:01] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: try deleting the bin folder
#868 [11:01] <CoDDog> ok
#869 [11:01] <nev> it works fine in browser
#870 [11:02] <nev> i hadnt tried that before
#871 [11:02] <CoDDog> Done
#872 [11:02] <almostroot> nev: Try treinstalling then using these instructions.
#873 [11:02] <almostroot> ??> nev win/reinst
#874 [11:02] <VoxelHead> nev: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#875 [11:02] <VoxelHead> nev: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#877 [11:02] <CoDDog> SHould i try running the game again?
#878 [11:03] <Steve[cug]> LukHof: is your PC getting a static IP? could that have changed?
#879 [11:04] <LukHof> ah yeah it changed, another try ^^
#880 [11:04] <nev> i tried that but it still comes up with the same error
#881 [11:04] <nev> it wont go as far as downloading anything
#882 [11:04] <nev> only works in-browser
#883 [11:04] <almostroot> You followed those instructions explicitly?
#884 [11:04] <nev> yup
#885 [11:05] <nev> appdata .minecraft delete everything
#886 [11:05] <almostroot> nev: Try following them again, deleting everything but save, and delting the minecraft launcher and downloading a new one
#887 [11:05] <almostroot> ??> nev win/client
#888 [11:05] <VoxelHead> nev: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#889 [11:05] <nev> ok sec
#890 [11:05] <CoDDog> Steve should it work now?
#891 [11:05] <LukHof> still timeout, the ip is the right one
#892 [11:05] <Steve[cug]> LukHof: you may wanna setup your PC to have a static IP
#893 [11:06] <LukHof> well why change it to static when there are still problems with timeouts
#894 [11:06] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: try now
#895 [11:06] <CoDDog> ok
#896 [11:06] <Steve[cug]> LukHof: eliminated variables
#897 [11:06] <Steve[cug]> *eliminates
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#899 [11:06] <nev> nope
#900 [11:06] <nev> still doesnt werk
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#902 [11:07] <LukHof> so change the ip to static lease type?
#903 [11:07] <almostroot> nev: Can you walk me through the exact problem and error message? Does it give you a file when it fails?
#904 [11:07] <CoDDog> Steve it doesnt work
#905 [11:07] <CoDDog> :/
#906 [11:08] <Steve[cug]> LukHof: here is how I could approach this...start up the server, then try to connect with another pc on your network. if your good there, then its a port forwarding issue, if not, then its an issue with your pc/firewall
#907 [11:08] <nev> no, just says Could not create the Java Virtual Machine when i start Minecraft.exe
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#909 [11:08] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: hmmm
#910 [11:08] <Steve[cug]> w/o an error i dunno man
#911 [11:08] <nev> theres no error log file
#912 [11:08] <CoDDog> You know what i mean when i say it opens then closes right?
#913 [11:08] <CoDDog> lol
#914 [11:08] <CoDDog> Like
#915 [11:08] <cope80> Does anyone know how to make it so that mobs do not collide with each other?
#916 [11:08] <CoDDog> When i click it
#917 [11:09] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: yeah you see the icon in the dock then it dissappears
#918 [11:09] <CoDDog> Not fully
#919 [11:09] <CoDDog> Like it starts to
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#922 [11:09] <CoDDog> Then it goes away...
#923 [11:09] <almostroot> nev: Try these steps:
#924 [11:09] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: sounds like an issue with the launcher, but you tried to re-dl it
#925 [11:09] <almostroot> Make a folder called Minecraft somewhere on your computer. Download the following and move it to that directory: http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
#926 [11:09] <almostroot> Open Notepad, and in there add this line without quotes: "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft.jar" Then, save the file in the Minecraft folder, naming it minecraft.bat and change the File type to All files. Double-click minecraft.bat to try and run the game.
#927 [11:10] <beeast> when i load the game it says BAD VIDEO CARD DRIVERS!
#928 [11:10] <CoDDog> Ill try again
#929 [11:10] <CoDDog> And if it dont work w/e maybe i should just pay for it
#930 [11:10] <CoDDog> Hahaha
#931 [11:10] <almostroot> beeast: Install the latest video card drivers.
#932 [11:10] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: you should see the login window
#933 [11:10] <nev> ok 1 sec
#934 [11:10] <CoDDog> YEAH I DONT SEE THAT
#935 [11:10] <CoDDog> Sorry
#936 [11:10] <LukHof> according to the open port check its a forwarding issue, but i really dont get it, i forwarded it like it should be, maybe theres a prob with the local adress...i used 10.0.0.1 for it
#937 [11:10] <CoDDog> for caps
#938 [11:10] <Steve[cug]> i know :-p
#939 [11:10] <CoDDog> lol
#940 [11:10] <beeast> how do i instal video card drivers
#941 [11:11] <CoDDog> But i tried to get other versions
#942 [11:11] <CoDDog> Because i want to play
#943 [11:11] <almostroot> beeast: What is your operating system and what video card do you have installed?
#944 [11:11] <Steve[cug]> LukHof: uuuh
#945 [11:11] <Steve[cug]> yeah that may be the issue
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#947 [11:11] <beeast> radeon 9500
#948 [11:11] <CoDDog> And when i hit objects they dont like destroy so i can get them
#949 [11:11] <Steve[cug]> .1 and .254 are normally reserved for networking gear
#950 [11:11] <CoDDog> Ughh i hate macs....
#951 [11:12] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: never had an issue with any of my macs :-p
#952 [11:12] <almostroot> beeast: Please follow these instructions.
#953 [11:12] <LukHof> thought it would be right because skype and stuff also uses this one
#954 [11:12] <almostroot> ??> beeast win/dxdiag
#955 [11:12] <VoxelHead> beeast: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#956 [11:12] <cope80> Does anyone know how to make it so that mobs do not collide with each other?
#957 [11:12] <CoDDog> Damn my mac!!!!!!!
#958 [11:12] <VoxelHead> beeast: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#959 [11:12] <almostroot> So CoDDog, what's your issue?
#960 [11:12] <CoDDog> Im gonna delete all mincraft things then try re dl
#961 [11:12] <Steve[cug]> CoDDog: might be best
#962 [11:12] <CoDDog> My minecraft trial wont open
#963 [11:12] <nev> It flashes a cmd.exe window which says that it cannot reserve enough space for the object heap - my Commit Charge is 610M/3934M
#964 [11:13] <almostroot> nev: Can you follow the same instructions I provided beeast through VoxelHead please?
#965 [11:13] <Steve[cug]> LukHof: yeah w/o really knowing what you have setup, not much more i can do
#966 [11:13] <almostroot> nev: And follow these instructions as well:
#967 [11:13] <almostroot> ??> nev java/version
#968 [11:13] <VoxelHead> nev: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#969 [11:13] <VoxelHead> nev: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#970 [11:14] <nev> sure sec
#971 [11:14] <cope80> Looking for a way to make mobs not collide with each other.
#972 [11:14] <LukHof> all i can say is i forwarded 25565 TCP and UDP manually, using 10.0.0.1 as local adress and local computer
#973 [11:14] <almostroot> cope80: Can you elaborate please?
#974 [11:15] <almostroot> LukHof: That shouldn't be the local computer IP, that should be the gateway IP. Local should be the IP address assigned to your machine.
#975 [11:15] <cope80> almostroot: I want mobs to be able to pass through each other instead of getting stuck on each other.
#976 [11:15] <almostroot> cope80: You'd probably have to find a way to enable noclipping, which would involve a mod.
#977 [11:15] <CoDDog> LMFAO i tried again and same shit.... :/
#978 [11:16] <almostroot> CoDDog: Walk me through your issue.
#979 [11:16] <CoDDog> okay well it kinof is very simple
#980 [11:16] <nev> http://pastebin.com/VRTeYEZ5
#981 [11:16] <CoDDog> I Dl the minecraft Beta
#982 [11:16] <CoDDog> And i extract it on my mac
#983 [11:16] <CoDDog> open it
#984 [11:17] <CoDDog> And it says that it was Dl from the interneet do i want to open
#985 [11:17] <CoDDog> i click yes
#986 [11:17] <CoDDog> then it closes
#987 [11:17] <nev> You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 26).
#988 [11:17] <CoDDog> i try to re open
#989 [11:17] <CoDDog> and re open
#990 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> CoDDog - What exactly are you trying to open
#991 [11:17] <CoDDog> but it wont open
#992 [11:17] <CoDDog> Minecraft
#993 [11:17] <CoDDog> Beta
#994 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> CoDDog - What is the file name
#995 [11:17] <CoDDog> Mac OSX
#996 [11:17] <almostroot> CoDDog: Follow these instructions:
#997 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> it’s mac/permissions
#998 [11:18] <CoDDog> The file that I Dl was Minecraft.zip
#999 [11:19] <CoDDog> What instructions...
#1000 [11:19] <GreyVulpine> ??> CoDDog mac/permissions
#1001 [11:19] <VoxelHead> CoDDog: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1002 [11:19] <almostroot> CoDDog: Writing them up
#1003 [11:19] <VoxelHead> CoDDog: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
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#1005 [11:19] <almostroot> Or that works.
#1006 [11:19] * GreyVulpine grins
#1006 [11:19] <almostroot> Follow the VoxelHead
#1007 [11:20] <Steve[cug]> LukHof: whats the IP of your router?
#1008 [11:20] <CoDDog> Ok
#1009 [11:20] <CoDDog> Ok
#1010 [11:20] <CoDDog> Hold on
#1011 [11:20] <almostroot> nev: Install the altest graphics card drivers for your machine from here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18774&ProdId=2877&lang=eng
#1012 [11:20] <LukHof> 10.0.0.138
#1013 [11:20] <almostroot> LukHof: Unless you manually assigned that, it's incorrect.
#1014 [11:20] <LukHof> looked at the router connection, my pc is listed with 10.0.0.1
#1015 [11:21] <almostroot> LukHof: Standards unless using VLSM, are to have the router IP be the network address+1
#1016 [11:21] <nev> will do brb after restart
#1017 [11:21] <Steve[cug]> LukHof: yeah thats not right
#1018 [11:21] <Steve[cug]> i think you have them reversed
#1019 [11:22] <LukHof> did nothing with the ip's
#1020 [11:22] <Steve[cug]> router == 10.0.0.1 and PC == 10.0.0.138
#1021 [11:22] <CoDDog> Ok i did that and i got -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `chmod'
#1022 [11:23] <almostroot> CoDDog: Can you copy the whole contents of the terminal and put it on PAstebin?
#1023 [11:23] <almostroot> ?? pastebin
#1024 [11:23] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you do, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1025 [11:23] <CoDDog> ok
#1026 [11:24] <LukHof> well if i try to forward to .138 it tells me it clashes with the subnetworkconnection
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#1028 [11:24] <nev> hello again
#1029 [11:24] <nev> i installed the driver but its not helping
#1030 [11:24] <almostroot> nev: Try a minecraft reinstall now.
#1031 [11:24] <almostroot> ??> nev win/reinst
#1032 [11:24] <VoxelHead> nev: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1033 [11:24] <CoDDog> http://pastebin.com/SNFSPPXp
#1034 [11:24] <nev> sec
#1035 [11:24] <VoxelHead> nev: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1036 [11:25] <almostroot> CoDDog: Use the full command on one line.
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#1038 [11:25] <almostroot> chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1039 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> CoDDog - Try running minecraft again
#1040 [11:25] <nev> it won't go as far as download anything
#1041 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> almostroot - He got it the first time.
#1042 [11:25] <almostroot> GreyVulpine: I see. O.o
#1043 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> almostroot - Just that chmod doesn’t return anything on a successful entry.
#1044 [11:26] <CoDDog> DUDE
#1045 [11:26] <CoDDog> You are A GENIUS
#1046 [11:26] <almostroot> GreyVulpine: I know, just misread. :/
#1047 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Yes, almostroot is a genius, but we try not having his ego even more inflated by telling him >.>
#1048 [11:27] <nev> you think if i get Chrome and use it just to play minecraft in browser its gonna be slow as /sad
#1049 [11:27] * almostroot cries.
#1049 [11:27] <CoDDog> Wait
#1050 [11:27] <CoDDog> lol
#1051 [11:27] <CoDDog> Is it supposed to look like this?
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#1054 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Like...?
#1055 [11:28] <almostroot> nev: It shouldn't be slow. You have a decent machine with the latest GPU drivers and latest Java version.
#1056 [11:28] <CoDDog> Hold on im on Tinypic.
#1057 [11:28] <almostroot> nev: Are you using the .exe file to play minecraft?
#1058 [11:28] <CoDDog> http://tinypic.com/r/2myd7py/7
#1059 [11:28] <nev> yes
#1060 [11:29] <nev> worked fine until a few days ago
#1061 [11:29] <almostroot> CoDDog: Was just an error loading the page. Should work fine.
#1062 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Actually.. it’s a symptom sometimes of a firewall blocking java..
#1063 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> But if it connects, it’s fine..
#1064 [11:29] <almostroot> O.o Mac firewall permits Java by default unless a third party is installed.
#1065 [11:30] <CoDDog> When i login it says user not premium
#1066 [11:30] <CoDDog> What should i do? O_O
#1067 [11:30] <CoDDog> lol
#1068 [11:30] <almostroot> CoDDog: When did you buy the game?
#1069 [11:30] <almostroot> Or have you?
#1070 [11:30] <almostroot> GreyVulpine: Suggestions for nev?
#1071 [11:30] <CoDDog> I have not this is a Beta i am trying to play :(
#1072 [11:30] <nev> anyway i think ill just play it inbrowser it doesn't slow down or anything :P
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#1074 [11:30] <almostroot> CoDDog: You have to pay for the beta. :(
#1075 [11:31] <CoDDog> wawawawhat?! :(
#1076 [11:31] <CoDDog> Then whats the point for a beta?????
#1077 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> almostroot is right. Minecraft beta is not free.
#1078 [11:31] <CoDDog> lmfao
#1079 [11:31] <CoDDog> not even for a beta to try out? :o
#1080 [11:31] <almostroot> CoDDog: It's a pretty full game already, and you /should/ get the full version free when it comes out.
#1081 [11:31] <Zemedelphos> You're preordering, and allowed to play while it's being made
#1082 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> Beta does not denote a “free trial”
#1083 [11:31] <Zemedelphos> Beta WILL get the full version free
#1084 [11:31] <CoDDog> I just assumed
#1085 [11:31] <nev> what does /should/ mean lol
#1086 [11:32] <nev> oh ok
#1087 [11:32] <Zemedelphos> Nev: the // is probably emphasis
#1088 [11:32] <almostroot> nev: Was to imply italics for emphasis.
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#1090 [11:32] <Zemedelphos> ctrl+b is another way to denote emphasis
#1091 [11:32] <CoDDog> Wait
#1092 [11:32] <CoDDog> So the beta will be free soon?
#1093 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> No
#1094 [11:32] <Zemedelphos> No
#1095 [11:32] <nev> 'sfar as i understand it beta gets the full game free
#1096 [11:32] <pinkpotato> what
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#1098 [11:32] <Zemedelphos> I said Beta accounts will get full release free
#1099 [11:32] <CoDDog> Wait i am confused
#1100 [11:32] <nev> 'but alfa gets full game + all future expansions
#1101 [11:32] <Zemedelphos> As in
#1102 [11:33] <Zemedelphos> Pay Fullprice*.75 for beta, get full release
#1103 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> When you buy the game right now, you’re buying “Beta”. You will eventually get the full release, for the price of paying beta
#1104 [11:33] <nev> if you buy the Beta now you get the full game free when it comes out
#1105 [11:33] <Zemedelphos> As opposed to buy full release for full price
#1106 [11:33] <nev> the full game will be more expensive
#1107 [11:33] <CoDDog> Ok... so how much i s betta?
#1108 [11:33] <nev> so it pays to buy it now
#1109 [11:33] <Zemedelphos> about 14 euros
#1110 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> 15 euros
#1111 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> About 21-22 dollars US
#1112 [11:33] <pinkpotato> plus you get to play it now for a few extra months before it is released
#1113 [11:33] <CoDDog> Umm anyone have USD translation...
#1114 [11:34] <CoDDog> K thank you
#1115 [11:34] <CoDDog> I am poor
#1116 [11:34] <CoDDog> lol
#1117 [11:34] <Zemedelphos> I love that I bought in alpha
#1118 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1119 [11:34] <Zemedelphos> I only had to pay about 13 bucks back then
#1120 [11:34] <nev> google 'X'EUR in USD where X is the number of eurobucks
#1121 [11:35] <nev> last converter you'll ever use
#1122 [11:35] <nev> yeah alpha was cheap
#1123 [11:35] <nev> i bough a beta and one for my friend
#1124 [11:35] <nev> he was like whatwhatwhat :D
#1125 [11:36] <Zemedelphos> I bought alpha during the halloween update, so I was lucky I was introduced to the game so soon.
#1126 [11:36] <Syyyn> i have two beta accounts myself
#1127 [11:36] <Keltinray> Syyyn, why two beta accounts just for yourself? O..o
#1128 [11:36] <Syyyn> 1 for my kids :)
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#1130 [11:37] <almostroot> Sept 21st for me. O.o
#1131 [11:38] <nev> im picturing 'here's teh deal daddy/mommy you giev us pocket moneyz or we grieff ur ep1c c4stl3 while uz sleepz'
#1132 [11:38] <Syyyn> haha
#1133 [11:38] <almostroot> nev: I'm picturing cattle prods.
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#1135 [11:38] <Syyyn> OwnBlocks for dad =P
#1136 [11:38] <Zemedelphos> Lol
#1137 [11:38] <Zemedelphos> I could see the other side
#1138 [11:39] <Zemedelphos> Syyyn: Okay kids, if you don't clean your room, I WILL spawn 1000 creepers and supercharge them. Kids: D:
#1139 [11:39] <Syyyn> hahah
#1140 [11:39] <nev> lol
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#1142 [11:40] <PissedOff> Hi
#1143 [11:41] <Zemedelphos> Hi
#1144 [11:41] <PissedOff> I still cant fix it.
#1145 [11:41] <Syyyn> heh.
#1146 [11:41] <Zemedelphos> Fix what?
#1147 [11:41] <PissedOff> I reinstalled my drivers.
#1148 [11:41] <Syyyn> what video card do you have
#1149 [11:41] <PissedOff> The Black Screen and instant shutdown when you login
#1150 [11:41] <PissedOff> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870.
#1151 [11:42] <Syyyn> here's comes my crappy opinion. I HATE ATI.
#1152 [11:42] <PissedOff> lol.
#1153 [11:42] <Syyyn> used to love them
#1154 [11:43] <nev> combine that one with MSI everything-else and you get a heater for those chilly winter nights
#1155 [11:43] <Syyyn> but my gtx 570 really makes me happy now. it's like having a mistress while having a wife.
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#1157 [11:44] <nev> mistress is overrated
#1158 [11:45] <nev> would you rather have two mediocre cars or a Porsche
#1159 [11:45] <Syyyn> yea well you can't really kill your wife these days and go to key west directly after..
#1160 [11:45] <nev> same money involved on either side
#1161 [11:48] <nev> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_jGgZ35W5s << 'speccialy for Syyyn XD
#1162 [11:48] <PissedOff> Sad.
#1163 [11:48] <nev> cheers Syyn the song is for y :P
#1164 [11:49] <PissedOff> Fml.
#1165 [11:49] <Syyyn> haha
#1166 [11:56] <nev> lol why am i banned from mcchatter
#1167 [11:56] * mib_ya84r5 [mib_ya84r5@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1168 [11:56] <nev> when ive never been there :D
#1169 [11:58] <nev> so u know when is pistons gonna come out?
#1170 [11:59] <Keltinray> thursday
#1171 [11:59] <nev> i wana build Tokyo 5 or something
#1172 [11:59] <nev> kuul
#1173 [11:59] <Keltinray> At least according to the Notch.
#1174 [11:59] <Keltinray> Then it'll be a good week of bugfixes.
#1175 [12:00] <nev> yeha
#1176 [12:00] <nev> as always
#1177 [12:00] <nev> last time was hillarious though 5 updates in 6 hours or so
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#1180 [12:12] <mib_xsevgl> why is it when I open minecraft and log in, it says updating. Its been doing that ALLLL day.
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#1183 [12:13] <mib_xsevgl> HELP
#1184 [12:13] <mib_xsevgl> HELLO??????
#1185 [12:14] <mib_yr7yw9> Hi there guys, I installed a 1.5 mod through minecraft and followed instructions on forums. I am using 1.6 beta. I am now getting just a blank screen, help guys please.
#1186 [12:14] <mib_xsevgl> HEY GET IN LINE DUDE!!! IM UP F***** FIRST!!!
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#1188 [12:14] <Syyyn> wow.
#1189 [12:14] <Syyyn> lol
#1190 [12:14] <mib_xsevgl> ok
#1191 [12:14] <mib_xsevgl> why is it when I open minecraft and log in, it says updating. Its been doing that ALLLL day.
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#1193 [12:15] <mib_yr7yw9> Any help guys please
#1194 [12:15] <mib_xsevgl> hey get in line noob!
#1195 [12:15] <Syyyn> delete your folder thingy
#1196 [12:15] <Syyyn> %appdata%/.minecraft
#1197 [12:16] <nev> dont delete your saves!
#1198 [12:16] <mib_xsevgl> Syyyn help me!!!!
#1199 [12:16] <mib_xsevgl> why is it when I open minecraft and log in, it says updating. Its been doing that ALLLL day! Help!
#1200 [12:17] <mib_yr7yw9> What folder - the info said delete meta-inf file or it would not work, that has gone forever
#1201 [12:17] <mib_xsevgl> wait! had that problem yesterday! You need to reinstall minecraft.
#1202 [12:19] <mib_yr7yw9> How do I reinstall minecraft?
#1203 [12:19] <Syyyn> yea dont delete your saves
#1204 [12:19] <Syyyn> haha
#1205 [12:19] <Syyyn> go to start | run
#1206 [12:19] <Syyyn> type in %appdata%\.minecraft
#1207 [12:19] <mib_yr7yw9> k?
#1208 [12:19] <mib_yr7yw9> okay
#1209 [12:19] <Syyyn> delete everything except saves folder
#1210 [12:20] <nev> notice the full stop after the backslash
#1211 [12:21] <nev> imagine BABYLON, but then you deleted your saves....
#1212 [12:21] <Syyyn> Syyyn you deleted my saves! lol
#1213 [12:21] <Syyyn> you h4x3d me!
#1214 [12:21] <mib_yr7yw9> If you delete everything but saves will it not crash?
#1215 [12:21] <nev> i delete my saves all the time to teach myself the value of letting go
#1216 [12:22] <nev> havnt lrnt it yet though
#1217 [12:22] <Syyyn> haha. I run a server on this PC so I havn't "let go" yet
#1218 [12:23] <Syyyn> have to do somethin with my 8GB of ram
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#1220 [12:23] <nev> yeah and here's my 300EUR pair of shades 8)
#1221 [12:23] <Syyyn> sexy.
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#1223 [12:24] <nev> damn right
#1224 [12:24] <nev> mib_ it wont crash
#1225 [12:25] <nev> it will just download everything again
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#1227 [12:25] <Nasicur> hello guys i need some help i cannot log in by using the downloaded launcher. but if i log in with my aacount in browser everything is working and i can play. is someone having an idea?
#1228 [12:26] <Syyyn> you mean the minecraft.exe?
#1229 [12:26] <nev> same problem here
#1230 [12:26] <Nasicur> right
#1231 [12:27] <Syyyn> what fixed it for me was putting java in the PATH var (I think)
#1232 [12:27] <Syyyn> it just worked since then. lol
#1233 [12:27] <nev> wait wut
#1234 [12:27] <nev> Environment Variables
#1235 [12:27] <Syyyn> yea
#1236 [12:27] <nev> what exactly did you do to them again?
#1237 [12:27] <Syyyn> put the location of jdk in it
#1238 [12:28] <nev> jdk? aint that for Eclipse?
#1239 [12:28] <Syyyn> err jre
#1240 [12:28] <nev> i mean developement
#1241 [12:28] <nev> yeah
#1242 [12:28] <nev> can you paste me the link
#1243 [12:28] <Syyyn> too much crap for me to remember
#1244 [12:28] <nev> i mean so i know which folder to stop at
#1245 [12:29] <nev> and is it a User Var or a System Var?
#1246 [12:29] <Syyyn> usually in C:\Program Files\java\jre6
#1247 [12:29] <Nasicur> ok thanks but i don´t what this is;)
#1248 [12:29] <Syyyn> if you have the latest that is
#1249 [12:30] <nev> yeah but did you use the upper or the lower window :D
#1250 [12:30] <nev> in Env Var
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#1252 [12:30] <Syyyn> err wait
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#1254 [12:30] <Syyyn> JAVA_HOME
#1255 [12:31] <Syyyn> make sure that has correct value maybe? mines set to jdk directory
#1256 [12:31] <Syyyn> i read it in a forum post dont have the link let me try to google it again
#1257 [12:32] <nev> kk thnx
#1258 [12:32] <KiwwHi> Hello
#1259 [12:32] <KiwwHi> Could someone here help me ? :/
#1260 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> KiwwHi - Only if you tell us with what
#1261 [12:33] <KiwwHi> Well, here's the problem
#1262 [12:33] <KiwwHi> Sometimes, I'm connecting to a friend's server
#1263 [12:33] <KiwwHi> Everything is okay
#1264 [12:33] <KiwwHi> Great ping, no lag
#1265 [12:33] <KiwwHi> Even if we're 4-5 in the server at the same time
#1266 [12:33] <KiwwHi> And sometimes, I don't know why
#1267 [12:33] <KiwwHi> Nothing changes
#1268 [12:34] <KiwwHi> But I can't connect
#1269 [12:34] <KiwwHi> Internat Exception : java.net.Socket.Excetion : Connection reset
#1270 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Probably your friend’s server is down
#1271 [12:34] <Nasicur> i try to update my java
#1272 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Yup, his server is down KiwwHi, when that happens
#1273 [12:34] <KiwwHi> No it is not
#1274 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> KiwwHi - Yes, it is
#1275 [12:34] <KiwwHi> No, I can connect
#1276 [12:34] <KiwwHi> I play for 30 secondes
#1277 [12:34] <Awesomenss|Sleep> Gooooooooodnight everyone.
#1278 [12:35] <KiwwHi> And after that, nothing but this error
#1279 [12:35] <KiwwHi> I can connect, but I'm disconnected
#1280 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> KiwwHi - Connect reset by peer messages are the fault of the server
#1281 [12:35] <Awesomenss|Sleep> I said, GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE.
#1282 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> !k Awesomenss|Sleep
#1283 [12:35] * GreyBot kicked Awesomenss|Sleep from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:667>)
#1284 [12:35] <nev> GOOD NIGHT HOMBRE
#1285 [12:35] <KiwwHi> Good night Sir
#1286 [12:35] <Syyyn> nev, I want to say it was the JAVA_HOME var in ENV
#1287 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Syyyn - It isn’t.
#1288 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Try the Path variable in system variables
#1289 [12:36] <KiwwHi> But the other people connecting to my friend's server, they have no problem
#1290 [12:36] <Syyyn> mines set to C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_24
#1291 [12:36] <Syyyn> or your path
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#1293 [12:37] <KiwwHi> So, how can I fix it ? : /
#1294 [12:37] <oldtopmanserver> Syyyn: Is the JDK now included with the JRE?
#1295 [12:37] <mib_yr7yw9> Anybody tell me how to re-install Minecraft, I have installed a mod 1.5 onto 1.6 beta version and have crashed the game, I just get a blank black screen now so is it possible to wipe from my PC and re-install?
#1296 [12:37] <Nasicur> hey syyyn i´m back i tried to update java but it doesn´t work
#1297 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> KiwwHi - Tell your friend who’s running the server, to configure his security software to stop blocking java, or yourself from connecting
#1298 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_yr7yw9 win/reinst
#1299 [12:37] <VoxelHead> mib_yr7yw9: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1300 [12:37] <VoxelHead> mib_yr7yw9: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1301 [12:38] <Syyyn> oldtop, not sure. I have it in mine.
#1302 [12:38] <nev> nope, anyway ill play it in browser
#1303 [12:38] <KiwwHi> GreyVulpine - The other people can connect and it works great for them
#1304 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> KiwwHi - Then, unless you have some sort of security software.. those error messages are usually indicative of a network problem on the server’s end
#1305 [12:38] <Syyyn> can you run the cmd java from anywhere in cmd?
#1306 [12:39] <oldtopmanserver> Syyyn: You pointed to jdk, so I was just wondering
#1307 [12:39] <Syyyn> like any directory
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#1309 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> The jdk is not included with the jre
#1310 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> The JDK is a seperate download
#1311 [12:39] <Syyyn> yea I think maybe one of my dev programs probably made all my java work for me.
#1312 [12:40] <Syyyn> so maybe that's why my minecraft.exe works on my desktop
#1313 [12:40] <KiwwHi> GreyVulpine - We both tried to fix it by reinstalling, checking of network, all that stuff... But it's useless. For some days I will be able to connect without any problem, and then we don't know why, but I can't anymore. Oh, and we're using Hamachi
#1314 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Ew
#1315 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> That would be the reason then
#1316 [12:40] <Nasicur> i don´t know
#1317 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Hamachi adds a layer of connection issues on top of what could already happen. I recommend your friend look at port forwarding
#1318 [12:40] <nev> sec phone
#1319 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> It’s just another thing that adds to the network overhead, and more unncessary problems
#1320 [12:41] <nev> might be an hour or two
#1321 [12:41] <Syyyn> is minecraft on port-forward.com?
#1322 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1323 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Port 25565/TCP
#1324 [12:41] <KiwwHi> GreyVulpine - Port forwarding ? what is this ?
#1325 [12:41] <nev> its a wassup firlfrrrriendddd kinda call
#1326 [12:41] <nev> girlfriend
#1327 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Have your friend configure his router correctly.. and you won’t have network problems
#1328 [12:41] <oldtopmanserver> KiwwHi: What is your minecraft username, I think a friend mentioned you.
#1329 [12:42] <KiwwHi> It's KiwHi
#1330 [12:42] <KiwwHi> KiwwHi*
#1331 [12:42] <KiwwHi> My 25565 port are open, UCP and TCP, and my friends port too
#1332 [12:42] <mib_yr7yw9> mib_yr7yw9 - thank you for your help it works perfectly now - thank you
#1333 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> KiwwHi - If your friend port forwarded his router correctly, he wouldn’t need to have hamachi running for the server
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#1335 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> KiwwHi - Also, only the person running the server needs to port forward, not the clients
#1336 [12:43] <panitaliemom> hi
#1337 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> ‘lo
#1338 [12:43] <panitaliemom> whenever i try to get on minecraft classic it wont work
#1339 [12:43] <KiwwHi> GreyVulpine - It's working for the other players... : / I'll tell him, brb.
#1340 [12:43] <Nasicur> ok ithink i just play in my browser
#1341 [12:44] <Nasicur> thanks a lot
#1342 [12:44] <panitaliemom> hm
#1343 [12:44] <panitaliemom> it says error while loading applet
#1344 [12:44] <panitaliemom> what do i do
#1345 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> panitaliemom - Try uninstalling java completely and reinstalling it
#1346 [12:45] <panitaliemom> ok
#1347 [12:45] <panitaliemom> from what site should i install it
#1348 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> java.com after you uninstall it
#1349 [12:45] <panitaliemom> ok
#1350 [12:46] <KiwwHi> GreyVulpine - See. Now, I'm actually connected to his server. I wait 30 seconds and... Well it works. My friend and my didin't change anything and it's working.
#1351 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> There’s a reason why we don’t support servers running on hamachi here.
#1352 [12:48] <KiwwHi> What is this reason ?
#1353 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> If a person knew their network setup, it’d be a simple matter of setting up their router to port forward the needed ports. Hamachi only adds an unneeded amount of complexity and problems to the networking mix.
#1354 [12:49] <nev> ah the good old days playing Q2 and half life on hamachi :D
#1355 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> Hamachi is also not the most reliable VPN software out there.
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#1357 [12:50] <KiwwHi> But I couldn't connect to his server without Hamachi...
#1358 [12:50] <mohawk> my minecraft download keeps crashing can i have help
#1359 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> Because he’s probably not knowlegable enough to set it up without hamachi
#1360 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - How does it crash? Does it give you any error reports?
#1361 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - If it does, could you please paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#1362 [12:52] <mohawk> it just goes away
#1363 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Goes away?
#1364 [12:52] <mohawk> ]yes i does too
#1365 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> When does it go away?
#1366 [12:52] <KiwwHi> GreyVulpine - There is a lot of tutorials to set a server without Hamachi I presume ?
#1367 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> KiwwHi - Tons
#1368 [12:52] <mohawk> like when im just playing 5 minutes into the game
#1369 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> I can offer assistance over teamviewer if need be as well. Many helpers here know how to port forward in their sleep
#1370 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Do you get any files named hs_err_pid that are created when this happens?
#1371 [12:53] <mohawk> im gonna go to pastebin.com
#1372 [12:54] <nev> Grey, just a quickie for skype I just forward 80 443 and whatever the random one is right
#1373 [12:54] <nev> UDP TCP or Any???
#1374 [12:55] <nev> ive got them on Any and its working but its shitty
#1375 [12:55] <mohawk> when minecraft crahes a notepad opens up and the notepad s named hs_err_pid4176
#1376 [12:55] <AG_Scott> GreyVulpine The paste bot thingy is pretty much ready.
#1377 [12:55] <nev> i presume its shitty cuz of Microsoft not teh way i forward it
#1378 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> AG_Scott - Instructions?
#1379 [12:55] <AG_Scott> I just need to make it pretty.
#1380 [12:55] <AG_Scott> You can play with it in #mcpaste
#1381 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Please copy the contents of that file and paste it to www.pastebin.com, then give us the address to it
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#1383 [12:56] <mohawk> i did
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#1385 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Please give us the address at the top of the address bar once you press submit
#1386 [12:58] <Syyyn> ah food. :)
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#1388 [12:58] <KiwwHi> GreyVulpine - You see, we didn't change anything and now it's working. No more errors...
#1389 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> I chalk it up to hamachi, nothing more
#1390 [12:59] <nev> can't cook all she does is order from restaurants XD
#1391 [12:59] <mohawk> i sent it with the addresss this time
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#1393 [12:59] <Syyyn> I am a prep cook part time
#1394 [12:59] <Syyyn> :)
#1395 [12:59] <KiwwHi> GreyVulpine - So it would come from Hamachi. Hmm.
#1396 [12:59] <nev> thats nice
#1397 [13:00] <Syyyn> byebye Hamachi
#1398 [13:00] <tomatobaby> Can someone link me the permissions chat?
#1399 [13:00] <mohawk> what do i do now?
#1400 [13:00] <Syyyn> ick.
#1401 [13:00] <nev> i can cook a protein shake
#1402 [13:00] <nev> dump powder in milk. stir
#1403 [13:00] <Syyyn> lol
#1404 [13:01] <nev> honestly i admire my best friend for her cooking
#1405 [13:01] <Syyyn> KOOLAID
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#1407 [13:01] <KiwwHi> Eh, another question. Is it possible to set an Hamachi server on with your own IP ?
#1408 [13:01] <morton> Guys.. i've come here to ask a question.
#1409 [13:01] <KiwwHi> You know, without renting a server or using Hamachi
#1410 [13:02] <Syyyn> morton, do it.
#1411 [13:02] <Syyyn> =P
#1412 [13:02] <nev> shes got like back to basic killz a potatoe a piece of bird and some noodles and shell make you a full meal
#1413 [13:02] <Syyyn> do it do it
#1414 [13:02] <KiwwHi> Damn ! I just had an error saying that
#1415 [13:02] <morton> I bought minecraft yesterday at about 8PM GMT. It's now 6PM GMT. I still don't have the game because it says my account 'User not premium'. I'm fucking pissed off, I just want my game. I know i bought the game because it said 'Payment successful'. Any ideas?
#1416 [13:02] <nev> skillz
#1417 [13:03] <morton> Notch is too pussy to reply to my emails, forum threads or twitters.
#1418 [13:03] <Syyyn> wow.
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#1420 [13:03] <Syyyn> I think Notch is on vaca
#1421 [13:03] <morton> klol im sueing him.
#1422 [13:03] <Dabosaur> yo can anyone help me out with a server issue?
#1423 [13:03] <KiwwHi> Here, I'm crashing again -_-
#1424 [13:03] <Syyyn> American.
#1425 [13:03] <Syyyn> "I'll sue you!"
#1426 [13:03] <morton> I'm not american.
#1427 [13:03] <morton> I was born in Sweden, notch's homeland.
#1428 [13:04] <Syyyn> move then.
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#1430 [13:04] <Dabosaur> Nobody?
#1431 [13:04] <morton> I now live in the UK :0
#1432 [13:04] <morton> :)
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#1435 [13:04] <morton> And either way
#1436 [13:04] <nev> why move to the UK from Sweden?
#1437 [13:04] <morton> Even if he is on vacation
#1438 [13:04] <nev> just curious
#1439 [13:04] <morton> Hes replying to other random tweeters
#1440 [13:04] <morton> I dunno nev, just doing what Iwant.
#1441 [13:04] <nev> Sweeden seems so much better to me
#1442 [13:04] <morton> Why not me?
#1443 [13:04] <morton> After 6 tweets
#1444 [13:05] <nev> adn i dunno
#1445 [13:05] <nev> call your bank and ask
#1446 [13:05] <nev> if a payment was made
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#1448 [13:05] <jrpilot747> um can soeone help me
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#1450 [13:05] <nev> if it was send notch a reciept for the payment
#1451 [13:06] <nev> i guess that's the most logical thing im sure he can hack you into the system in no time if there was an error
#1452 [13:06] <jrpilot747> can someone help me please
#1453 [13:07] <Dabosaur> I thought this was an effing help channel
#1454 [13:07] <Dabosaur> not an OCC channel.
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#1456 [13:08] <jrpilot747> i installed single player commands but theres this thing that comes with it called worldedit and each time i play it always sais it doesnt work
#1457 [13:08] <jrpilot747> hello
#1458 [13:08] <vertex> hi, i've got tomatoes on my eyes - i'm looking for a multiple install guide, since i'd like to try out our test-installation of a new server with new version, while not touching the current game version installed. where do i need to go? (i'm sure it's simple, please forgive me being too dumb for google - guess it's the heat *smile*)
#1459 [13:08] <Morrolan> jrpilot747: Go to #risucraft for mod support please.
#1460 [13:08] <Morrolan> ??> morton payment
#1461 [13:08] <Morrolan> Vox!
#1462 [13:08] <Morrolan> Ok morton, the old fashioned way then:
#1463 [13:09] <morton> nev
#1464 [13:09] <morton> I never got an email
#1465 [13:09] <morton> to my account!
#1466 [13:09] <Morrolan> morton: It can take up to two days for your payment to get processed. If your account still isn't premium after two days, and you made sure that you got charged the money, send a mail to payment@mojang.com
#1467 [13:09] <morton> Where does it say that Morrolan?
#1468 [13:10] <Morrolan> morton: That it can take up to two days? Nowhere I think
#1469 [13:10] <Morrolan> It's just like that. ^^
#1470 [13:10] <morton> It said up to 1 hour.
#1471 [13:10] <morton> I remember it in my head..
#1472 [13:10] <Morrolan> morton: That's correct for most people. For some however it isn't.
#1473 [13:10] <Morrolan> vertex: So you want to set up a second server?
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#1475 [13:11] <Morrolan> vertex: Shouldn't be too hard, just download the server software again, put it in a new folder and run it.
#1476 [13:11] <vortex> helllllo
#1477 [13:11] <Morrolan> hey vortex
#1478 [13:11] <vertex> Morrolan: oh sorry, no.. i've got the second server, but like to have a second client that doesn't mix with my current clients version
#1479 [13:11] <vortex> i neeeeeeed help
#1480 [13:11] <morton> Morrolan
#1481 [13:11] <morton> How did u know about the 2 days?
#1482 [13:11] <morton> Did u rememberi t somewhere or
#1483 [13:11] <Morrolan> vertex: Ah, in this case you will need to create a backup of your current client files, because you can not have two separate installations at a time.
#1484 [13:11] <morton> Just.. guess
#1485 [13:11] <Morrolan> Morrolan: It is just like that. ;)
#1486 [13:11] <Morrolan> uh
#1487 [13:11] <Morrolan> morton*
#1488 [13:11] <Dabosaur> Anyone know anything about servers?..
#1489 [13:12] <morton> What's that meant to mean?
#1490 [13:12] <morton> D;
#1491 [13:12] <morton> I just want to fucking play.
#1492 [13:12] <morton> Every thread i make on the forums
#1493 [13:12] <Dabosaur> wow
#1494 [13:12] <Michl3545> !server
#1495 [13:12] <Morrolan> vertex: Do you know where to find the files of the client?
#1496 [13:12] <Dabosaur> addict
#1497 [13:12] <morton> "Wait a bit longer. huhuhtrololololo'
#1498 [13:12] <vertex> Morrolan: even if i use java console and run via java.exe -usethatjar?
#1499 [13:12] <morton> Its pissing me
#1500 [13:12] <morton> off
#1501 [13:12] <vertex> Morrolan: yeah sure
#1502 [13:12] <Guest21742> oh um each tie i install a mod like mo creatures it doesnt work
#1503 [13:12] <Dabosaur> No, Michl, I need some support.
#1504 [13:12] <Dabosaur> I have an error.
#1505 [13:12] <vertex> Morrolan: appdata, where the .jar is placed
#1506 [13:12] <Michl3545> Dabosaur: what is the error?
#1507 [13:12] <Morrolan> vertex: Yes, because the jar file you download is only a launcher. This launcher will then download all the other files.
#1508 [13:13] <Morrolan> vertex: And these files would override the current files.
#1509 [13:13] <Dabosaur> When I run the .jar with no gui, I get [SEVERE] Unexpected Error.
#1510 [13:13] <Morrolan> vertex: Also, good that you know where to find the files, you'd be astonished how many people don't.
#1511 [13:13] <Guest21742> and also i installled baby a nimals but the sound on them didnt work and i did download the mod loader and sound thing
#1512 [13:13] <vertex> Morrolan: i see. so when the .jar is located elsewhere, it would still use the default home directory
#1513 [13:13] <Morrolan> Guest21742: For support with mods go to #risucraft please.
#1514 [13:13] <Michl3545> Dabosaur: have you tried re-downloading the server?
#1515 [13:13] <Morrolan> vertex: Exactly.
#1516 [13:13] <morton> On the brink
#1517 [13:13] <morton> of punching a fucking wall
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#1519 [13:13] <Dabosaur> Can anyone take this with me to a query, This is a bit confusing, and yes, I have redownloaded java AND the server.
#1520 [13:14] <KiwwHi> Well, I'm leaving. Gonna try to find out how to fix it. Thank you gents, have a nice day/evening/night !
#1521 [13:14] <nev> morton, don't punch a wall
#1522 [13:14] <Morrolan> Also, time to eat something, afk for a while.
#1523 [13:14] <vertex> Morrolan: am a developer. well, lamp, but at least i know my system, tehe =)
#1524 [13:14] <Morrolan> vertex: ok :)
#1525 [13:14] <morton> Well if notch is going to fucking ignore me
#1526 [13:14] <bokaholic> o.o
#1527 [13:14] <morton> Then ofc ima get pissed off
#1528 [13:14] <Dabosaur> morton
#1529 [13:14] <Guest21742> can someone pleeeeeeeeez help
#1530 [13:14] <Dabosaur> Do you know how POPULAR this game is?
#1531 [13:14] <morton> And?
#1532 [13:14] <Dabosaur> AND!?
#1533 [13:14] <morton> That doesn't mean customer support is bad
#1534 [13:14] <bokaholic> Seriously..
#1535 [13:15] <morton> World of Warcraft has 10mil + users MONTHLY
#1536 [13:15] <bokaholic> He's just one dude, dude.
#1537 [13:15] <morton> not one time pay
#1538 [13:15] <Morrolan> morton: Look, either you believe that it takes up to two days, or you don't, it just doesn't matter.
#1539 [13:15] <morton> and they reply in like, hours
#1540 [13:15] <Michl3545> Dabosaur: What does the error say exactly? btw, we aren't supposed to take it to a query. That way the rest of the channel can benefit from the help.
#1541 [13:15] <morton> No, he has staff
#1542 [13:15] <Dabosaur> You expect NOTCH to acknowledge you?
#1543 [13:15] <morton> 'Mojang'
#1544 [13:15] <vertex> Morrolan: thanks for the help. it's a bit uncomfy, but i'll survive it
#1545 [13:15] <morton> I get
#1546 [13:15] <morton> 'User not premium'
#1547 [13:15] <morton> It thinks I still havent fucking payed.
#1548 [13:15] <morton> I do Dabosaur, yes.
#1549 [13:15] <Dabosaur> Michl, can I paste it to you in a query or do you want me to pastebin it.
#1550 [13:15] <morton> Even if he is the 'creator' hes still a person ffs.
#1551 [13:15] <bokaholic> Haha.. Wow.. Well guys.. Have fun with this. :I
#1552 [13:15] <Michl3545> Dabosaur: pastebin, please
#1553 [13:15] <morton> He's replying to people who tweet like 2.. im putting @notch in 6 tweets and he ignores me
#1554 [13:15] * bokaholic idles to move into her new house.
#1554 [13:15] <morton> Hes a pussy
#1555 [13:15] <Dabosaur> He is also a very busy person, you ignorant idiot.
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#1557 [13:16] <morton> And?
#1558 [13:16] <Dabosaur> Oh get lost.
#1559 [13:16] <lern> Excuse me
#1560 [13:16] <Dabosaur> Fool.
#1561 [13:16] <morton> I'm not the one who questionned you
#1562 [13:16] <lern> This isnt much of a help request
#1563 [13:16] <morton> You questionned me.
#1564 [13:16] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine , Kealper , dopeghoti , sorry for the highlights, but it's getting nasty in here.
#1565 [13:16] <lern> More of help identifying something within the minecraft.jar.
#1566 [13:16] <morton> You just asslick notch like 99% of other minecraftians.
#1567 [13:16] <Dabosaur> somebody kick morton.
#1568 [13:16] <Morrolan> Now I'm really afk, later.
#1569 [13:16] <morton> Why Dabosaur?
#1570 [13:16] <morton> You wanted to talk to me.. I dn't see why I should be kicked.
#1571 [13:16] <Dabosaur> go rage elsewhere
#1572 [13:16] <Dabosaur> most people want help
#1573 [13:16] <lern> Because you're a rager/troll/flamer?
#1574 [13:16] <morton> I do too.
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#1577 [13:16] <morton> No one is answering me..
#1578 [13:17] <morton> Or my problems.
#1579 [13:17] <lern> So?
#1580 [13:17] <morton> Other than one person who did.
#1581 [13:17] <lern> Wait the fuck up
#1582 [13:17] <morton> Morrolan.
#1583 [13:17] <lern> be patient
#1584 [13:17] <lern> people are fuckin buzy
#1585 [13:17] <morton> I've been here for a long time
#1586 [13:17] <morton> 10 mins.
#1587 [13:17] <lern> busy*
#1588 [13:17] <morton> Longer than others
#1589 [13:17] <titegtnodI> Lol
#1590 [13:17] <lern> we aren't all as lifeless as you?
#1591 [13:17] <lern> SO?
#1592 [13:17] <bokaholic> 10 minutes is a long time?
#1593 [13:17] <morton> Who are asking
#1594 [13:17] <lern> 10 minutes?
#1595 [13:17] <bokaholic> :O
#1596 [13:17] <titegtnodI> Oh the horror
#1597 [13:17] <Dabosaur> WOW
#1598 [13:17] <lern> Are you fucking kidding me?
#1599 [13:17] <Dabosaur> STOP
#1600 [13:17] <titegtnodI> 10minutes ahhhhh
#1601 [13:17] <bokaholic> Hahahaha
#1602 [13:17] <Dabosaur> please just ignore morton.
#1603 [13:17] <Michl3545> Dabosaur: lets go to a query, this is painful
#1604 [13:17] <Dabosaur> ikr
#1605 [13:17] <morton> You guys are fucking retarded coming here asking for questions that can be www.googled.com
#1606 [13:17] <morton> If u want ur server online, portforward
#1607 [13:17] <lern> You're a moron. I don't think you should be allowed to buy minecraft, let alone play it.
#1608 [13:17] <morton> There are softwares for that and u can go manually to ur IP
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#1610 [13:18] <morton> If u want a minecraft server, download CraftBukkit and other mods
#1611 [13:18] <lern> mort
#1612 [13:18] <morton> Watch on youtube
#1613 [13:18] <titegtnodI> Go pay for support and I'm sure you'll get it
#1614 [13:18] <lern> What?
#1615 [13:18] <morton> I cant fucking watch 'Why is my account user not premium'
#1616 [13:18] <Kuhro> Abend, kann mir wer kurz helfen?
#1617 [13:18] <morton> I've tried every other way.
#1618 [13:18] <lern> What is your 'I am hollier than thou' question?
#1619 [13:18] <morton> Tweeted, emailed, over 3 threads
#1620 [13:18] <lern> Mort.
#1621 [13:18] <lern> What.
#1622 [13:18] <lern> Is
#1623 [13:18] <lern> Your
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#1625 [13:18] <lern> Question?
#1626 [13:18] <morton> I paid for minecraft yesterday at 8PM GMT roughly.
#1627 [13:18] <lern> ...
#1628 [13:18] <morton> It said within the hour I would have the game.
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#1630 [13:18] <morton> 9PM, no game.
#1631 [13:18] <lern> ...
#1632 [13:19] <morton> 11 PM no game.
#1633 [13:19] <lern> THIS
#1634 [13:19] <morton> Asked my brother, he said it took 2-3hours.
#1635 [13:19] <morton> As of now, no game.
#1636 [13:19] <lern> IS NOT THE PLACE FOR SUCH QUESTIONS
#1637 [13:19] <lern> YOU'RE RAGING AT THE WRONG PEOPLE
#1638 [13:19] <morton> How do you know?
#1639 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> ??> morton payment
#1640 [13:19] <nev> guiz lemme handle this i work in customer service
#1641 [13:19] <lern> AND PISSING THEM OFF.
#1642 [13:19] * titegtnodI is loling actually
#1642 [13:19] <lern> Because this goes to PAYMENT and ACCOUNT SUPPORT on the main site.
#1643 [13:19] <nev> :D
#1644 [13:19] <lern> NOT
#1645 [13:19] <morton> GreyVulpine , what does that mean?
#1646 [13:19] <lern> to irc.
#1647 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#1648 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> The bot is down
#1649 [13:19] <morton> I've already emailled them
#1650 [13:19] <morton> They ignored me
#1651 [13:19] <titegtnodI> VoxelHead is dead q.q
#1652 [13:19] <lern> We can't help you.
#1653 [13:19] <lern> We're not mojang.
#1654 [13:19] <morton> I can prtscreen and thread it if u want
#1655 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> No, they usually take more than a day to answer
#1656 [13:19] <morton> Like my emails to notch
#1657 [13:19] <morton> my tweets to notch
#1658 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> They get hundreds of emails daily
#1659 [13:20] <morton> If someone gives me a phone number to mojang
#1660 [13:20] <titegtnodI> GreyVulpine: Who owns VoxelHead? I'll bug them ^-^
#1661 [13:20] <morton> I will kidnly leave
#1662 [13:20] <Dabosaur> KICK
#1663 [13:20] <Dabosaur> MORTON
#1664 [13:20] <Dabosaur> PLEASE
#1665 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> And you’re probably pissing them off by sending them so many email messages
#1666 [13:20] <lern> Mort, Did you recieve an email about the purchase yet?
#1667 [13:20] <morton> I sent one email message.
#1668 [13:20] <morton> To notch, GreyVulpine
#1669 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> <morton> Like my emails to notch
#1670 [13:20] <morton> 6 tweets, and 2 threads.
#1671 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> emails, denotes more than 1 email
#1672 [13:20] <titegtnodI> :O
#1673 [13:21] <nev> thats why I love IRC
#1674 [13:21] <lern> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
#1675 [13:21] <nev> better than TV
#1676 [13:21] <lern> CONTRADICTION
#1677 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Again, the other people here are correct. We are not mojang.
#1678 [13:21] <titegtnodI> IRC == WAYYYYY better than TV
#1679 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> We’re community run support.
#1680 [13:21] <morton> Sorry for that typo.
#1681 [13:21] <lern> I feel like GV is Phoenix Wright
#1682 [13:21] <nev> cannot compute
#1683 [13:21] <bokaholic> Seriously.. I should be moving right now but I'm just here watching and giggling.
#1684 [13:21] <lern> And Morton is Payne.
#1685 [13:21] <lern> Stupid asian lawyer he was.
#1686 [13:21] <morton> Can someone link me to Mojang's phone nuber?
#1687 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> if you have a problem with payment, head to www.minecraft.net/support
#1688 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> morton - Google it
#1689 [13:21] <morton> And i willleave.
#1690 [13:21] <bokaholic> lol
#1691 [13:21] <morton> I TRIED.
#1692 [13:21] <lern> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
#1693 [13:21] <lern> XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
#1694 [13:21] <bokaholic> lol
#1695 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> morton - Really?
#1696 [13:21] <lern> MORTON GOT TEH OWNT
#1697 [13:22] <morton> I tried everything to get this fucking game 'accepted'
#1698 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> It would take me 2 seconds to google mojang’s phone number
#1699 [13:22] <lern> morton
#1700 [13:22] <lern> Did you notice
#1701 [13:22] <lern> That you're raging
#1702 [13:22] <lern> about
#1703 [13:22] <nev> morton you didn't try everything - try WAITING ONE MORE DAY
#1704 [13:22] <lern> a game?
#1705 [13:22] <titegtnodI> lmao international phone call
#1706 [13:22] <titegtnodI> FTW
#1707 [13:22] <lern> a game you don't even have. :P
#1708 [13:22] <morton> try and find it GreyVulpine
#1709 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Mojang AB
#1710 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Åsögatan 140, 116 24 Stockholm, Sweden
#1711 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> +46 70 669 43 52
#1712 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Done
#1713 [13:22] <lern> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
#1714 [13:22] <titegtnodI> \o/
#1715 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Anything else?
#1716 [13:22] <bokaholic> Now he goes. As promised!
#1717 [13:22] * lern is officially replacing his Phoenix Wright posters with Grey Vulpine.
#1717 [13:22] <titegtnodI> That is not a properly formatted phone number
#1718 [13:22] <morton> No. Thanks.
#1719 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> titegtnodI - Yes it is
#1720 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> It’s an international number
#1721 [13:23] <titegtnodI> +4 670 669 4352 ?
#1722 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> +46
#1723 [13:23] <titegtnodI> I call international all the time : /
#1724 [13:23] <nev> no lol
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#1726 [13:23] <nev> the intern code is 46
#1727 [13:23] <lern> does it matter? >>
#1728 [13:23] <titegtnodI> But then you're missing a digit, no?
#1729 [13:23] <titegtnodI> Nope
#1730 [13:23] <morton> CAn i just be linked to the website? Im not in the mood to be trolled if i am..
#1731 [13:24] <titegtnodI> Just curious
#1732 [13:24] <titegtnodI> mojang.com?
#1733 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> morton - The website for?
#1734 [13:24] <nev> nope
#1735 [13:24] <morton> the phone number, the link
#1736 [13:24] <morton> the exact link
#1737 [13:24] <titegtnodI> minecraft.net?
#1738 [13:24] <titegtnodI> morton: Google.ca
#1739 [13:24] <nev> the full number you have to dial is 0046 706694352
#1740 [13:24] <morton> yeah, fuck off
#1741 [13:24] <morton> i want the website url
#1742 [13:24] <nev> from the UK
#1743 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> morton - http://maps.google.com/maps?q=mojang+ab&hl=en&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=53.345014,114.169922&radius=15000&z=12
#1744 [13:24] <titegtnodI> Lmao
#1745 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> There
#1746 [13:25] <morton> thanks
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#1748 [13:25] <lern> literally google morton
#1749 [13:25] <lern> So
#1750 [13:25] <lern> Now that this trolls gone.
#1751 [13:26] <bokaholic> I should really start moving.
#1752 [13:26] <bokaholic> :I
#1753 [13:26] <lern> I have some strange questions
#1754 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
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#1756 [13:26] * titegtnodI learned more about international phone numbers today
#1756 [13:26] <vertex> Morrolan: hey, me once more. wanted to let you know the tomatoes fell off my eyes. there's a portable minecraft version that even runs at the same time with own settings
#1757 [13:26] <lern> It's part of the mc.jar.
#1758 [13:26] <lern> Does anyone know what the 'power' armor is?
#1759 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Power armor?
#1760 [13:26] <titegtnodI> a mod ?
#1761 [13:26] <lern> Check the jar's armors.
#1762 [13:26] <lern> Nope
#1763 [13:26] <lern> Jar, armors.
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#1765 [13:27] <lern> There's a skin called Power.
#1766 [13:27] <titegtnodI> I'm lookin' at the source code
#1767 [13:27] <titegtnodI> It's not there
#1768 [13:27] <lern> Yes it is.
#1769 [13:27] <lern> Gimme a sec.
#1770 [13:27] <titegtnodI> A skin though? I wanna see it
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#1772 [13:27] <titegtnodI> I mean it's not in the code
#1773 [13:27] <vertex> Morrolan: if you're interested, visit http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/37311-minecraft-portable-26-java-portable-b166-compat/ - just ran both and as far as i can see it's stable and not touching my (backed up for safety reasons) local install
#1774 [13:27] <titegtnodI> I'm not denying the skin
#1775 [13:27] <lern> ?
#1776 [13:27] <lern> Go to the jar
#1777 [13:27] <lern> Extract it
#1778 [13:27] <lern> Go to armor
#1779 [13:27] <titegtnodI> ...I know how to do that
#1780 [13:27] <lern> and then the last should be power.
#1781 [13:27] <lern> I don't have any mods.
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#1784 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, I see the armor.png, no idea what that’s connected to
#1785 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Probably unused?
#1786 [13:29] <lern> Wait.
#1787 [13:29] <lern> I never saw it
#1788 [13:29] <lern> So I can't confirm
#1789 [13:29] <titegtnodI> OMG pretty
#1790 [13:29] <lern> but, the Creepers...
#1791 [13:29] <dvader> hi are you able to play MC multiplayer at minecraft.net? i only get a black screen
#1792 [13:29] <komikoze> how long will it take for payment@mojang.com to reply?
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#1794 [13:29] <lern> when they get thunderbolted...
#1795 [13:29] <lern> Could that be it?
#1796 [13:29] <titegtnodI> It must be for creepers
#1797 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> lern - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Armor
#1798 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> There is a texture file for armor labeled "Power". Its look is an indiscernible blue energy of some sort. It is the same blue energy that appears on a creeper when it is struck by lightning. It can be asumed that it was put in the armor files due to the creeper's likeness to a human.
#1799 [13:30] <lern> HAH
#1800 [13:30] <lern> I was right then.
#1801 [13:30] <lern> Look above, vulpy.
#1802 [13:30] <dvader> hi are you able to play MC multiplayer at minecraft.net? i only get a black screen
#1803 [13:30] <dvader> hi are you able to play MC multiplayer at minecraft.net? i only get a black screen
#1804 [13:30] <dvader> hi are you able to play MC multiplayer at minecraft.net? i only get a black screen
#1805 [13:30] <dvader> hi are you able to play MC multiplayer at minecraft.net? i only get a black screen
#1806 [13:30] <dvader> hi are you able to play MC multiplayer at minecraft.net? i only get a black screen
#1807 [13:30] <dvader> hi are you able to play MC multiplayer at minecraft.net? i only get a black screen
#1808 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> komikoze - Usually a few days
#1809 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> !k dvader
#1810 [13:30] * GreyBot kicked dvader from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:668>)
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#1812 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> Don’t spam here
#1813 [13:30] <dvader> hi are you able to play MC multiplayer at minecraft.net? i only get a black screen
#1814 [13:30] <dvader> hi are you able to play MC multiplayer at minecraft.net? i only get a black screen
#1815 [13:30] <dvader> hi are you able to play MC multiplayer at minecraft.net? i only get a black screen
#1816 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> !k dvader
#1817 [13:30] * GreyBot kicked dvader from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:669>)
#1818 [13:30] <titegtnodI> ban > . <
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#1820 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> Next one is a ban
#1821 [13:31] <dvader> wayne?
#1822 [13:31] <dvader> wayne?
#1823 [13:31] <dvader> wayne?
#1824 [13:31] <dvader> wayne?
#1825 [13:31] <dvader> wayne?
#1826 [13:31] <dvader> wayne?
#1827 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes, dvader, minecraf
#1828 [13:31] <dvader> wayne?
#1829 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> !kb dvader
#1830 [13:31] * GreyBot kicked dvader from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:670>)
#1831 [13:31] <titegtnodI> bai bai
#1832 [13:31] <titegtnodI> o
#1833 [13:31] <titegtnodI> AuBot y u ...
#1834 [13:31] <titegtnodI> oh
#1835 [13:31] <titegtnodI> -q
#1836 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> -q, not -b
#1837 [13:31] <titegtnodI> derp
#1838 [13:31] <titegtnodI> lol, I failed
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#1841 [13:33] <nev> guiz why am i banned from mcchatter
#1842 [13:33] <nev> ive never been there
#1843 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> 11. apocalypse.esper.net banned *!*Mibbit@* on Wednesday, May 25th, 2011 at 10:18pm.
#1844 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> Because you have mibbit as an ident
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#1846 [13:35] <nev> im using mibbit here too
#1847 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Yes, but mcchatter’s ban list has an entry for mibbit
#1848 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> We’re different.
#1849 [13:35] <nev> ah i c
#1850 [13:35] <nev> ty
#1851 [13:35] <ahelms> Who can I email to find out if I paid for minecraft?
#1852 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Got a minecraft username?
#1853 [13:36] <ahelms> Yes ahelms
#1854 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> !paid ahelms
#1855 [13:36] <ahelms> So I have or have not?
#1856 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> You have not.
#1857 [13:37] <Dabosaur> !paid Dabbleh
#1858 [13:37] <Dabosaur> win :D
#1859 [13:37] <nev> !paid nevada344
#1860 [13:37] <lern> !paid lern
#1861 [13:37] <nev> beast
#1862 [13:37] <lern> !paid lern
#1863 [13:37] <lern> DAM SKIPPY
#1864 [13:37] <Dabosaur> ;)
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#1866 [13:38] <lern> ^he speakens the truths
#1867 [13:38] <pheleas_frog> i need help
#1868 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1869 [13:38] <ahelms> How long does it take for a credit card t o usually go through? My transaction went through.
#1870 [13:38] <pheleas_frog> when i start the game it wont let me play it
#1871 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Usually a few hours, up to a day ahelms.
#1872 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - What happens when you try to start it?
#1873 [13:39] <ahelms> Ok its been 3, but my credit card did not deny the transaction.
#1874 [13:39] <nev> http://mojangcommunity.net/ [20:36:01] Veso_881001: OMG HAILEY THESE CHOCODILES [20:36:08] Veso_881001: THESE CHOCODILES HAILY OMG [20:36:25] Veso_881001: OMG HAILEY THESE CHOCODILES OMG OMG
#1875 [13:39] <pheleas_frog> the screen goes to dirt then goes blank
#1876 [13:39] <nev> did you guys see the flying stuff?
#1877 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> nev - Flying stuff?
#1878 [13:39] <nev> notch made a screenshot
#1879 [13:40] <nev> http://mojangcommunity.net/
#1880 [13:40] <morton> !paid morton
#1881 [13:40] <nev> of flying in teh next patch
#1882 [13:40] <morton> How does it know whether or not i paid?
#1883 [13:40] <morton> this is a guess acc but
#1884 [13:40] <pheleas_frog> the screen goes to dirt then goes blank
#1885 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> morton - It goes and checks: http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=
#1886 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - Goes to dirt?
#1887 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - The launcher, or the game?
#1888 [13:41] <pheleas_frog> you log in/
#1889 [13:41] <morton> Why am i false?
#1890 [13:41] <morton> =/
#1891 [13:41] <pheleas_frog> it says mojaong,
#1892 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> “morton” is listed as false
#1893 [13:41] <morton> but my real name is aswell
#1894 [13:41] <morton> the one i paid for mc
#1895 [13:41] <pheleas_frog> then i see dirt
#1896 [13:41] <pheleas_frog> then it goes dark
#1897 [13:41] <nev> you might be dead and burried near a LAN cable
#1898 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - Has it worked before?
#1899 [13:42] <pheleas_frog> you dont see the title scrren
#1900 [13:42] <pheleas_frog> yea
#1901 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#1902 [13:42] <nev> !paid aswell
#1903 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - Are you on windows? mac? linux?
#1904 [13:43] <Anthrophobic> !paid jetbalrog
#1905 [13:43] <Anthrophobic> :]
#1906 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Please stop spamming with the bot
#1907 [13:43] <Anthrophobic> !paid anthrophobic
#1908 [13:43] <Anthrophobic> ^thats bull
#1909 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> I will kick.
#1910 [13:43] <pheleas_frog> it started when i downloaded a texture pack
#1911 [13:43] <Anthrophobic> I know I have paid on my account.
#1912 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - That would be why
#1913 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - Do you know how to remove it?
#1914 [13:43] <pheleas_frog> and windows 7
#1915 [13:43] <pheleas_frog> no
#1916 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - Please go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1917 [13:44] <pheleas_frog> hmmmm
#1918 [13:44] <pheleas_frog> kk
#1919 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder, and delete the texturepacks folder inside
#1920 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Then try minecraft again
#1921 [13:44] <morton> Greyvulpine
#1922 [13:44] <morton> Can i ask another question?
#1923 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#1924 [13:44] <morton> How do i check if i have bought minecraft? That its gone through?
#1925 [13:44] <morton> Do i call the bank up or
#1926 [13:45] <morton> Because for all i know it could be rejected
#1927 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Check whatever you used to pay for minecraft, ensure that money was taken out/charged
#1928 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Call the bank if you have to
#1929 [13:45] <nev> yeah best call your bank
#1930 [13:45] <morton> well how do i check without calling the bank?
#1931 [13:45] <morton> or do i have to call
#1932 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> What did you use to pay for it?
#1933 [13:45] <morton> Visa
#1934 [13:45] <morton> credit card
#1935 [13:45] <nev> the hindus at Visa/Mastercard are really nice
#1936 [13:46] <morton> hindus?
#1937 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Many credit cards have online statements available, barring that, call cardmember services, using the number on the back of the card
#1938 [13:46] <nev> thats what i usually get
#1939 [13:46] <morton> ok thanks GreyVulpine
#1940 [13:46] <pheleas_frog> IT WORKED THX SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH
#1941 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> pheleas_frog - Glad to help
#1942 [13:46] <pheleas_frog> thx bye
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#1944 [13:49] <Morrolan> I'm always astonished by your patience. :D
#1945 [13:50] <Syyyn> anyone know what time of IC or whatever setup i'd use to for a redstone delay like 1 input 2 ouputs with the 2nd output delated
#1946 [13:50] <Syyyn> delayed
#1947 [13:51] <Morrolan> A repeater?
#1948 [13:51] <Morrolan> Or n inverters
#1949 [13:51] <Syyyn> yes but only twice
#1950 [13:51] <Syyyn> like i hit a button it sends a signal to 1 block then the other block a second or two later
#1951 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Then have two wires in parallel, one going straight to the first block, one passing through 3 repeaters
#1952 [13:52] <Morrolan> Just use repeaters on the way to the second block then.
#1953 [13:52] <Syyyn> kk ty
#1954 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> set to 4/4/2, that’ll be one second
#1955 [13:52] <Morrolan> Ten ticks a second? Or is repeater delay measured in 1/10 of a second?
#1956 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Both statements are correct
#1957 [13:53] <Morrolan> Wasn't it 20 ticks a second?
#1958 [13:53] <Morrolan> Lemme check
#1959 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Repeater
#1960 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Note: each delay is 0.1 seconds; i.e., two repeaters set to '4' and one to '2' will give a 1 second delay.
#1961 [13:54] <Morrolan> Ah, yea, but one step of the repeater is two game-ticks then. :)
#1962 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> The default state of a repeater is 1 tick
#1963 [13:56] <Morrolan> 'Time is based on ticks, where 20 ticks happen every second.' http://wiki.vg/Protocol#Time_Update_.280x04.29
#1964 [13:56] <Morrolan> Oh well, not that important after all. ;)
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#1966 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Huh, interesting, I’ve always assumed a tick is .1 of a second
#1967 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, 1.7 is planned for thursday
#1968 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Neat.
#1969 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Looks like just the piston update, adventure update is being moved to 1.8
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#1971 [14:01] <bernard> hi i have a question
#1972 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> We have answers.
#1973 [14:01] <bernard> so i tired logging in and it says my username is not premium
#1974 [14:01] <Morrolan> Ah, nice. Pistons are one of the things I really want to have, since they are able to block and release liquids :)
#1975 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft bernard?
#1976 [14:02] <Morrolan> bernard: When did you buy the game?
#1977 [14:02] <bernard> like 20 minutes ago
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#1979 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> bernard - It can take a few hours for the payment to be processed, just wait
#1980 [14:02] <bernard> oh. even tho is has downloaded on my computer?
#1981 [14:02] <Morrolan> ??< smp/servers
#1982 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - Vox is down
#1983 [14:02] <Morrolan> Oh, right.
#1984 [14:03] <squiggy> Hello?
#1985 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> bernard - Yes, the account still needs to be processed and credited
#1986 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> squiggy - ‘lo
#1987 [14:03] <almostroot> What's up squiggy?
#1988 [14:03] <squiggy> not much, but my minecraft wont start...
#1989 [14:03] <almostroot> Vox is down?!
#1990 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Why is that?
#1991 [14:03] <bernard> ooh. so even tho i bought the game i need still have to use the account i bought the game with. i cant use a different acount?
#1992 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Vox is dwon
#1993 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> bernard - Right
#1994 [14:03] <almostroot> squiggy: Can you be more sepcific please?
#1995 [14:04] <almostroot> specific*
#1996 [14:04] <squiggy> i dont know it says :updating minecraft and freezes
#1997 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Where exactly does it freeze?
#1998 [14:04] <bernard> oh alright. well thanks for you help greyvulpine!
#1999 [14:04] * GreyVulpine nods
#1999 [14:04] <squiggy> at about 90%
#2000 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> With the message, “Done loading”, correct?
#2001 [14:05] <squiggy> yes
#2002 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
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#2004 [14:05] <squiggy> it just sits there thoughhow do i figure that out
#2005 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Are you on windows? mac? linux?
#2006 [14:05] <squiggy> i have windows 7
#2007 [14:06] <almostroot> GreyVulpine: Do they need a reinstall?
#2008 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Please go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#2009 [14:06] <almostroot> Try reinstalling by pressing Windows Key+R and entering %appdata% in the box and pressing enter. Fine the .minecraft folder, and delete everything in the folder EXCEPT the saves folder. Try downloading a new client from here: www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.exe
#2010 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> Go find the “.minecraft” folder and delete everything inside except for the saves folder
#2011 [14:06] <squiggy> i already tried reinstalling and restarting my computer:(
#2012 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> squiggy - Did you reinstall by deleting the contents of the .minecraft folder?
#2013 [14:07] <squiggy> tso delete all but saves
#2014 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> Right
#2015 [14:07] <squiggy> ok hold on il do that...
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#2018 [14:09] <nev> %appdata% and deleting .minecraft should be a meme
#2019 [14:09] <clone1716> I need help on makeing a server
#2020 [14:09] <nev> i mean sho even new about %appdata% b4 minecraft
#2021 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> clone1018 - What kind of help?
#2022 [14:10] <squiggy> thanks a lot SOOO much man it works now :D
#2023 [14:10] <clone1716> just makeing and starting it
#2024 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> clone1018 - What operating system are you planning on running the server on? Windows? Mac? Linux?
#2025 [14:11] <clone1716> windows
#2026 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Also, which server? Classic or Beta?
#2027 [14:11] <clone1716> clasic
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#2029 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Oi, well, the server software for classic is available here: http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp
#2030 [14:11] <clone1716> so can i have the steps to do it
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#2032 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> If you’re hosting it on a home connection, you’ll need to port forward your router for port 25565/TCP
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#2034 [14:12] <clone1716> How
#2035 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> I assume you’re trying to host this at home?
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#2037 [14:12] <clone1716> yes
#2038 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Are you on the computer that’ll run the server right now?
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#2040 [14:13] <clone1716> yes
#2041 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> What version of windows are you on?
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#2043 [14:13] <clone1716> XP home edition
#2044 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Alright then.
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#2047 [14:13] <nev1> sup
#2048 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Step 1: Download the server software from: http://www.minecraft.net/minecraft-server.zip
#2049 [14:14] <clone1716> i have
#2050 [14:14] <mib_crsn95> Hello minecraft support
#2051 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Step 2: Unzip the contents of said .zip to a folder
#2052 [14:14] <clone1716> i have
#2053 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Step 3: Go to your start menu -> run -> and type in: cmd
#2054 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Then at the black command prompt window, type in: ipconfig
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#2056 [14:14] <clone1716> kk
#2057 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Please give me the ip address and default gateway addresses tehre
#2058 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> there*
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#2060 [14:15] <clone1716> huh
#2061 [14:15] <Mike> Hello everyone, i have a problem
#2062 [14:15] <Mike> its the whole connection timed out thing lol
#2063 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> After typing in ipconfig at the command prompt, clone1018, you’ll see fields for ip address and default gateway
#2064 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Mike - What about it?
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#2066 [14:16] <Mike> i am trying to connect to a friends server i was on yesterday but everytime i do i get that error
#2067 [14:16] <clone1716> is there any other way
#2068 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> clone1018 - Nope
#2069 [14:16] <almostroot> Mike: Do other servers work? Try s.nerd.nu
#2070 [14:16] <Mike> ok let me try
#2071 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> clone1018 - Unless you want to download a program called Teamviewer, which will let me onto your computer and do it for you..
#2072 [14:16] <clone1716> got
#2073 [14:16] <clone1716> it
#2074 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> clone1018 - There’s no other way around port forwarding
#2075 [14:16] <Mike> that one worked, does that mean its his server?
#2076 [14:17] <almostroot> Mike: Yes.
#2077 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Mike - Yes
#2078 [14:17] <Mike> ah oh well
#2079 [14:17] <clone1716> im clone 1716
#2080 [14:17] <Mike> time to look for a new server til he fixes it lol
#2081 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> clone1018 - Care to PM me your teamviewer info?
#2082 [14:17] <clone1716> huh
#2083 [14:17] <clone1716> sry im not that good
#2084 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Can you right click my name in the upper left corner there ------->
#2085 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> and choose PM, then launch Teamviewer and private message me the info
#2086 [14:18] <clone1716> okay
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#2088 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> Guess he didn’t need help then.
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#2090 [14:24] <nev> anyone for !trivia?
#2091 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> No thanks.
#2092 [14:25] <nev> you know any trivia channels?
#2093 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Not aware of any on this network
#2094 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Greybot used to have a !trivia command
#2095 [14:26] <nev> remember Co$play?
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#2097 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I don’t know what that is.
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#2099 [14:30] <nev> it was a giant match of trivia basically :D
#2100 [14:30] <LordEddi> ?? RAM server
#2101 [14:31] <LordEddi> >.>
#2102 [14:31] <LordEddi> Was worth a shot.
#2103 [14:31] <almostroot> LordEddi: VoxelHead is down.
#2104 [14:31] <almostroot> What's your question?
#2105 [14:31] <LordEddi> Was trying to find out how much ram per client..In a perfect world.
#2106 [14:32] <almostroot> How many users are you planing on?
#2107 [14:32] <LordEddi> That kinda depends on the ram per client bit. ^^
#2108 [14:32] <LordEddi> But between 50 and 100.
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#2110 [14:33] <LordEddi> I seem to remember reading something about it being around 65 MB of rAM per user.
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#2112 [14:33] <LordEddi> But I cant find that again :(
#2113 [14:34] <almostroot> I would recommend something close to 16GB.
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#2115 [14:34] <almostroot> Less with good garbage collection.
#2116 [14:34] <mib_fwbjgh> Hey there anybody, I'm having a bit of a problem...
#2117 [14:34] <almostroot> mib_fwbjgh: What's your problem.
#2118 [14:34] <nev> if i ever make it ill buy a nice house and ill get a minecraft room and a server room
#2119 [14:34] <LordEddi> almostroot: So if its on faster drives basicly, lower need for RAM?
#2120 [14:34] <LordEddi> nev: hehe
#2121 [14:35] <almostroot> LordEddi: No, garbagecollection is a process that java will run.
#2122 [14:35] <LordEddi> Ah.
#2123 [14:35] <LordEddi> And what makes that "good" or "bad"?
#2124 [14:35] <almostroot> Cleans up unused memory essentially.
#2125 [14:35] <mib_fwbjgh> Well, I just put on a texture pack, and when I run the Minecraft, the screen goes completely black
#2126 [14:35] <LordEddi> Ok.
#2127 [14:35] <almostroot> mib_fwbjgh: Unisntall the texture pack.
#2128 [14:36] <mib_fwbjgh> There is no option... my whole computer goes black
#2129 [14:36] <mib_fwbjgh> I have to restart to do anything
#2130 [14:36] <almostroot> If it's a high-res texture pack, you need to run MCPatcher first, but follow the directions on the thread for the texture pack.
#2131 [14:36] <almostroot> mib_fwbjgh: Windows?
#2132 [14:36] <mib_fwbjgh> ok...
#2133 [14:36] <almostroot> mib_fwbjgh: Are you running Windows?
#2134 [14:37] <mib_fwbjgh> yes
#2135 [14:37] <almostroot> Try reinstalling by pressing Windows Key+R and entering %appdata% in the box and pressing enter. Fine the .minecraft folder, and delete everything in the folder EXCEPT the saves folder. Run the loader and allow it to download everything it needs.
#2136 [14:38] <almostroot> Then follow the instructions for installing the texture pack explicitly, and make sure it is compatible with the latest version of Minecraft (1.6.6).
#2137 [14:39] <mib_fwbjgh> ok thanks :)
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#2139 [14:39] * almostroot thinks he may make a wiki with all of this information on it for if/when Voxelhead dies again.
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#2140 [14:40] <Graversimen> ops¨
#2141 [14:40] <Graversimen> :O
#2142 [14:40] <lern> grey vulp?
#2143 [14:40] <almostroot> Graversimen: Why'd you break Voxel?
#2144 [14:40] <Graversimen> You are banned from the channel #mcbans
#2145 [14:41] <Graversimen> :O
#2146 [14:41] <Graversimen> i didnt break him ?
#2147 [14:41] <jonno11> Hi Graversimen, remember me?
#2148 [14:41] <almostroot> Did too! I saw it.
#2149 [14:41] <Graversimen> when ?
#2150 [14:41] <almostroot> lern: What's up?
#2151 [14:41] <almostroot> Graversimen: That one time...
#2152 [14:41] <Graversimen> when
#2153 [14:41] <Graversimen> what time
#2154 [14:41] <jonno11> Graversimen: You reckon anybody here would be able to solve the problem?
#2155 [14:41] <lern> Lookin for grey vulp.
#2156 [14:41] <lern> :P
#2157 [14:42] <almostroot> lern: Looks like they are AFK.
#2158 [14:42] <lern> Snap.
#2159 [14:42] <lern> Well when he comes back
#2160 [14:42] <Graversimen> almost what irc do you use ?
#2161 [14:42] <lern> Can you ask him this for me?
#2162 [14:42] <almostroot> Graversimen: Using LimeChat connected to a VNC relay server.
#2163 [14:42] <almostroot> ZNC*
#2164 [14:42] <jonno11> Can anybody here help me with my server/linux issues?
#2165 [14:42] <almostroot> jonno11: What is your issue?
#2166 [14:43] <lern> Tell him, lern is asking about the power armor we discussed earlier, and is wondering, (if he has any idea of course,) Why it would take up the entire sheet rather than the portion the creeper inhabits?
#2167 [14:43] <lern> Until he comes back
#2168 [14:43] <lern> You're welcome to attempt to decipher this XD
#2169 [14:43] <almostroot> lern: Just PM him it by right clicking on his name,.
#2170 [14:44] <jonno11> Well, everytime I run the minecraft_server.jar file, it runs for roughly 3 minutes, then quits with no errors. It seems to be a clean stop too, it outputs [INFO] Stopping server...
#2171 [14:44] <jonno11> I'm running Ubuntu Server 10.04
#2172 [14:44] <almostroot> jonno11: What are you using to start the server?
#2173 [14:44] <nev> weird
#2174 [14:44] <jonno11> java -Xmx768M -Xms768M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#2175 [14:45] <almostroot> Nothing else? No script?
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#2177 [14:45] <jonno11> well I have tried launching it in a screen
#2178 [14:45] <jonno11> but yes just that
#2179 [14:45] <almostroot> How much memory does your server have?
#2180 [14:45] <jonno11> 1gb RAM with 2gb of burst ram
#2181 [14:46] <jonno11> but it happens with 512M 1024M too
#2182 [14:47] <jonno11> I've been looking for the solution for like 2 months :L
#2183 [14:47] <almostroot> What version of JAva are you running? (Use java-version )
#2184 [14:47] <nev> http://xkcd.com/
#2185 [14:47] <nev> mind = blown, again
#2186 [14:48] <jonno11> java version "1.6.0_24" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07) Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode)
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#2188 [14:48] <almostroot> jonno11: Should try updating it. Current is 1.6.0_26
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#2190 [14:49] <jonno11> ok, how do I update? apt-get update?
#2191 [14:49] <almostroot> jonno11: If it's Ubuntu, sudo apt-get update
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#2193 [14:50] <jonno11> then what? do i specify the package?
#2194 [14:50] <jonno11> (thanks for your help btw!)
#2195 [14:50] <krebbit> Need help. Every time i try to log on it says user not prenium, but i have bought the game. Help?
#2196 [14:50] <almostroot> Will update all outdated packages.
#2197 [14:50] <almostroot> krebbit: When did you buy the game?
#2198 [14:51] <krebbit> just now, 5 minutes ago
#2199 [14:51] <jonno11> Ok it doesn't seem to have done...
#2200 [14:51] <almostroot> krebbit: Mojang processes payments through third party companies likePayPal or MoneyBrokers. It takes some time to change your account to premium.
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#2202 [14:51] <krebbit> how long roughly?
#2203 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> On average, 4-6 hours.
#2204 [14:52] <krebbit> thanks, very useful advice
#2205 [14:53] <nev> in all honesty it was instant for me
#2206 [14:53] <nev> both times
#2207 [14:53] <nev> mondays a busy day tho
#2208 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Sure, it was instantaneous for me as well, back in Alpha..
#2209 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Now with all those different payment options, it seems it’s a bit slower
#2210 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> We’ve been seeing much more payment issues with moneybookers than with paypal.
#2211 [14:55] <nev> i just use my dedicated visa electron
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#2213 [14:55] <nev> that's empty 99 percent of the time
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#2219 [15:05] <flabbergaster> hello
#2220 [15:05] <flabbergaster> i need help
#2221 [15:05] <flabbergaster> anyone?
#2222 [15:05] <almostroot> Just ask.
#2223 [15:07] <flabbergaster> ok so i downloaded this texture pack and it always crashes minecraft. the texture packs name is lb picture realistic or something like that
#2224 [15:07] <flabbergaster> can i change it somehow back to normal so it stops crashing?
#2225 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Using windows?
#2226 [15:08] <flabbergaster> ya
#2227 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar/run command, type in: %appdata%
#2228 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder, delete the texturepacks folder inside
#2229 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Then run minecraft again
#2230 [15:08] <flabbergaster> oh ok thanks:D
#2231 [15:09] <flabbergaster> IT WORKED THANK YUO!!!!
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#2234 [15:11] <claude> I try to buy minecraft but it keeps saying my credit card was declined
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#2236 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Are you using a credit card or a prepaid/gift card?
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#2238 [15:12] <claude> A prepaid gift card
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#2241 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> That’s probably why then. Most prepaid cards cannot be used for international purchases, due to an inherent block by the bank, to prevent fraud
#2242 [15:13] <claude> So I have to use a credit card?
#2243 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> You may need to call up the number of the cardmember’s services on the back of the card and have them unblock it
#2244 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> or use a credit card.
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#2246 [15:14] <claude> Thank you
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#2248 [15:15] <bugweiser> i got this when trying to play minecraft
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#2250 [15:15] <bugweiser> inecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 27/06/11 20:14
#2251 [15:16] <bugweiser> can someone help please
#2252 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Please use pastebin.com to paste the error
#2253 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL to it
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#2255 [15:16] <bugweiser> why is minecraft nerver run first time on my pc it is so annoying
#2256 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Please use pastebin.com to paste the error
#2257 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL to it
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#2259 [15:17] <bugweiser> and what is past bin as i dont no what it is and how you download it
#2260 [15:17] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com
#2261 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Please go to http://www.pastebin.com
#2262 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Paste the error there, and give us the address to it
#2263 [15:18] <bugweiser> i copyed it in so how do i give it to you as the url does not change
#2264 [15:20] <bugweiser> http://pastebin.com/jNdCR5hY
#2265 [15:20] <bugweiser> ?
#2266 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> bugweiser - Please go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#2267 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder, and delete everything inside except for the saves folder
#2268 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Then run minecraft again
#2269 [15:21] <frogmella> Hello ,I can't play minecraft in the multiplayer mode from the laucher ,can you help me ?
#2270 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> frogmella - Why can’t you?
#2271 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> What does it say?
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#2273 [15:21] <frogmella> there is an error
#2274 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> What error would that be?
#2275 [15:22] <wikkit> hey i recently bought minecraft and im using the mac whenever i turn to far it'll lag alot or stop like my invisible mouse reached the end of the window hoc can i fix this?
#2276 [15:22] <bugweiser> ok so it should work ?
#2277 [15:22] <bugweiser> ye thank you
#2278 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> bugweiser - If you do those steps I told you, yes
#2279 [15:22] <bugweiser> xx
#2280 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> wikkit - Don’t turn it to far?
#2281 [15:23] <wikkit> theres no way to do 360 in minecraft?
#2282 [15:23] <frogmella> failed to connect the server Connection refused : connect from the browser I can play it
#2283 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> wikkit - Try full-screening it with the f11 key
#2284 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> frogmella - Please try the server: s.nerd.nu
#2285 [15:24] <wikkit> kk i'll try that
#2286 [15:24] <frogmella> okay
#2287 [15:25] <jonno11> almostroot: I've had issues with updating the JRE, I've had to manually install it to a different directory. can I specify the location in the jar launching command?
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#2289 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> jonno11 - Yes you can
#2290 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> instead of java -jar minecraft.net
#2291 [15:25] <Tuner> Does anyone know how to fix end of stream error
#2292 [15:25] <jonno11> How do I do that?
#2293 [15:26] <jonno11> ok
#2294 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> “path\to\javaw.exe” -jar minecraft.jar
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#2296 [15:26] <jonno11> ok cool thanks I'll see if that fixes the issue
#2297 [15:26] <Kittenpunch> Hey can anyone help me with ServerCraft?
#2298 [15:26] <Kealper> AuBot: give me the title of that last url, please
#2299 [15:27] <Kealper> AuBot: danke sehr
#2300 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> We don’t provide support with Servercraft here.
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#2302 [15:27] <Kittenpunch> Sorry, know where I can go to get help?
#2303 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Tuner - Does it end of stream for every server you connect to?
#2304 [15:27] <wikkit> alright now i feel stupid but the volume is on the f11 how can i press f11
#2305 [15:27] <Tuner> yes
#2306 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Kittenpunch - I’m not aware of a channel for that
#2307 [15:27] <jonno11> hang on I don't have an executable - it's installed using the self-extractor from the java website into a /usr directory
#2308 [15:27] <jonno11> and it's a folder
#2309 [15:27] <Kittenpunch> Alrigh, thanks anyway.
#2310 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Tuner - Then I’d look at your security software/network setup
#2311 [15:27] <Tuner> but look for what?
#2312 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> See if java is blocked from a network security software or firewall. See if your NIC is updated.
#2313 [15:28] <zombiecobain> hello i need some help.i open minecraft and it loads until after you log in.then its just a black screen
#2314 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> zombiecobain - Has it worked before?
#2315 [15:28] <zombiecobain> yes it has
#2316 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> zombiecobain - What operating system are you on?
#2317 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> zombiecobain - Windows? Mac? Linux?
#2318 [15:29] <jonno11> No worries found it
#2319 [15:29] <zombiecobain> windows
#2320 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> zombiecobain - Please go to your start menu, in the search bar/run command, type in: %appdata%
#2321 [15:29] <Tuner> wait scratch that grey, i'm only getting it from one server
#2322 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> zombiecobain - Find the .minecraft folder, delete everything inside except for the saves folder
#2323 [15:29] <jonno11> Kealper - I'm back :P still trying to fix it
#2324 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> zombiecobain - Then try minecraft again
#2325 [15:29] <zombiecobain> alright thanks
#2326 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Tuner - Then I would blame it on that server...
#2327 [15:30] <Tuner> alright thanks
#2328 [15:31] <jonno11> I'm still getting the same problem :/ except without the polite stopping message
#2329 [15:31] <jonno11> it's just stopping
#2330 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> Did you delete everything inside .minecraft except for saves?
#2331 [15:31] <jonno11> yeah, this has happened every time I've tried it, I've tried about 30 fresh downloads and 30 directories
#2332 [15:32] <jonno11> this is minecraft server btw
#2333 [15:32] <GreyVulpine> Erm, wait, what?
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#2335 [15:32] <zombiecobain> its still not working
#2336 [15:32] <jonno11> lol sorry wp
#2337 [15:32] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: jonno11's issue is probably going to break your brain, it did mine
#2338 [15:32] <frogmella> what to do at nerd.nu
#2339 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> frogmella - Try using the server s.nerd.nu to connect via your client
#2340 [15:33] <jonno11> haha I'm determined to make it work
#2341 [15:33] <Kealper> frogmella: just put that in at the server ip spot
#2342 [15:33] <frogmella> at
#2343 [15:33] <sproing> can some one help i just bought minecraft and then when i went to play it i got this error
#2344 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> sproing - Please pastebin.com the error
#2345 [15:33] <sproing> bad video card
#2346 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Ah, update your video drivers then
#2347 [15:34] <sproing> it has a load of other tings under neath but it iwll not let me copy and paste
#2348 [15:34] <sproing> ohh how?
#2349 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> sproing - Do you know what video card you have?
#2350 [15:34] <sproing> no but i can find out 1 sec
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#2352 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> jonno11 - So.. what is your issue?
#2353 [15:35] <Kealper> uhh....iirc his server just stops
#2354 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> just.. stops?
#2355 [15:35] <Kealper> just as if someone typed stop into the console
#2356 [15:35] <sproing> how do you find out lol, i am not very good with computers i am on system info
#2357 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> sproing - Windows, I assume?
#2358 [15:35] <sproing> yes
#2359 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> What version?
#2360 [15:35] <sproing> 7
#2361 [15:35] <sproing> 64 bit
#2362 [15:35] <almostroot> jonno11: Did you finish updates?
#2363 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Go to your start menu, right click on Computer, and go to properties
#2364 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Please tell me the System Type listed there
#2365 [15:36] <sproing> done
#2366 [15:36] <sproing> 64 bit operating system
#2367 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Along the left side, you should see Device Manager, go there, find the Display Adapter, and expand it
#2368 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Tell me what you see listed there
#2369 [15:37] <sproing> intel(R) G41Express chipset (microsoft corporation) - WDDM 1.1)
#2370 [15:38] <sproing> AFTER CORPORATION THERE IS NO BRAKET I PUT THAT THER BY ACCIDENT
#2371 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> No worries
#2372 [15:38] <Kealper> i think you wanted to press the key about an inch lower than the one you actually pressed
#2373 [15:38] <oldtopman> !check shiny.heliwr.net
#2374 [15:38] <oldtopman> !check shiny.heliwr.net
#2375 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> You can close the device manager, back at the computer’s properties, what is listed as the windows 7 version?
#2376 [15:39] <oldtopman> ...
#2377 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Home? Professional? ultimate?
#2378 [15:39] <oldtopman> !check shiny.heliwr.net
#2379 [15:39] <Kealper> oldtopman: once every 5 sec, it won't send sooner than that
#2380 [15:39] <oldtopman> Kealper: I see that.
#2381 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> sproing - Still there?
#2382 [15:39] <sproing> home premium
#2383 [15:39] <sproing> yes
#2384 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> sproing - Then you want to download and install these drivers: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19939/a08/Win7Vista_64_151716.exe
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#2386 [15:41] <sproing> downloading now...
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#2389 [15:42] <MoppTopp> Hey when i downloaded the game it diddn't give me any type of folder.. Just the launcher.. So i cant put any mods or anything into my minecraft..
#2390 [15:42] <lern> Its ok.
#2391 [15:42] <sproing> i need to restart my computer have you got msn or anything like that?
#2392 [15:42] <lern> Just enter the launcher
#2393 [15:42] <TheNytangel> You didn't run the game yet MoppTopp
#2394 [15:42] <MoppTopp> Yes i have
#2395 [15:42] <lern> And it downloads a hidden folder unaccessible to the naked eye on your computer.
#2396 [15:42] <lern> Literally.
#2397 [15:42] <lern> Mopp
#2398 [15:42] <TheNytangel> ^
#2399 [15:43] <lern> Open the texture pack folder via the launcher.
#2400 [15:43] <lern> It'll grant you quick access to the hidden file.
#2401 [15:43] <lern> Alternatively, you can go to the user you are running your computer on,
#2402 [15:43] <TheNytangel> Unless you are on a school computer.. those for some reason have AppData in them.. but the folder icon is sort of.. ghostly
#2403 [15:43] <sproing> GreyVulpine - stiil there?
#2404 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> I’m still here
#2405 [15:43] <lern> and type up top /appdata
#2406 [15:43] <sproing> ok
#2407 [15:43] <oldtopman> TheNytangel: Only if you have show hidden files enabled
#2408 [15:43] <lern> And then enter roaming
#2409 [15:43] <lern> .minecraft
#2410 [15:44] <lern> And there you go. Hidden mc accessed.
#2411 [15:44] <sproing> have tou got msn or anything like that i need to restart my comp
#2412 [15:44] * TheNytangel goes to go show hidden files
#2412 [15:44] <MoppTopp> No when i run the game I went to the mods and texture packs. and i pressed the open files.. Then it just does nothing..
#2413 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> sproing - You can find me here in this channel
#2414 [15:44] <lern> Okay...
#2415 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> MoppTopp - Mac?
#2416 [15:44] <MoppTopp> Yes
#2417 [15:44] <sproing> ok
#2418 [15:44] <lern> Try going to the user you're running on.
#2419 [15:44] <sproing> thankyou
#2420 [15:44] <lern> Oh.
#2421 [15:44] <lern> Well, Vulpy, go!
#2422 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Go to ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#2423 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> The files will be in there
#2424 [15:45] <lern> k guys
#2425 [15:45] <lern> TF2 or LoL?
#2426 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> TF2
#2427 [15:45] <TheNytangel> oldtopman, how do you show hidden files? :)
#2428 [15:45] <lern> Not sure
#2429 [15:45] <jonno11> almostroot: Yeah I finished, still the same issue though
#2430 [15:45] <lern> You dont have to
#2431 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Don’t especially care for tower defense games
#2432 [15:45] <lern> ???
#2433 [15:45] <lern> LoL isn't TD.
#2434 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Or like.
#2435 [15:45] <lern> LoL is an RTS MMORPG style game.
#2436 [15:45] <lern> Only not so MMO
#2437 [15:46] <lern> As you play with up to 10 at a time.
#2438 [15:46] <oldtopman> TheNytangel: No idea. I usually poke around for a few mins and I eventually find it. I'm a linux dide myself
#2439 [15:46] <jonno11> almostroot: Also, it's now no longer giving the [INFO] Stopping server... message, but it's just dying out
#2440 [15:46] <lern> Vulp, do you even know what LoL is? >>
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#2442 [15:47] <lern> oh, btw.
#2443 [15:47] <lern> Topman
#2444 [15:47] <lern> Are you named after
#2445 [15:47] <TheNytangel> :D found it
#2446 [15:47] <lern> well.
#2447 [15:47] <TheNytangel> F1 ftw
#2448 [15:47] <lern> topman?
#2449 [15:47] <lern> As in
#2450 [15:47] <lern> the MM3 (gay?) dancer which uses dreydals?
#2451 [15:48] <lern> oldtopman?
#2452 [15:48] <oldtopman> lern: yes?
#2453 [15:48] <lern> 22:47 lern oh, btw. 22:47 lern Topman 22:47 lern Are you named after 22:47 TheNytangel found it 22:47 lern well. 22:47 TheNytangel F1 ftw 22:47 lern topman? 22:47 lern As in 22:47 lern the MM3 (gay?) dancer which uses dreydals?
#2454 [15:48] <oldtopman> lern: F!@^ NO! Old Man who wears a TOp hat
#2455 [15:48] <lern> oh.
#2456 [15:49] <lern> HEY
#2457 [15:49] <oldtopman> Yeah :/
#2458 [15:49] <lern> HE WAS AN OKAY GUY
#2459 [15:49] <lern> EVEN IF HE WAS GAY
#2460 [15:49] <lern> YOU ARE A HOMOPHOBE :U
#2461 [15:49] <oldtopman> Okay guy != Gay guy
#2462 [15:49] <lern> ?
#2463 [15:49] <lern> =/=*?
#2464 [15:49] <Kealper> now now, children
#2465 [15:49] <TheNytangel> lol oldtopman
#2466 [15:49] <lern> YOU ARE A HOMOPHOBE >:V
#2467 [15:49] <Kealper> lern: stop with the caps
#2468 [15:49] <TheNytangel> lern..
#2469 [15:49] <lern> he is a homophobe
#2470 [15:50] <lern> kealper
#2471 [15:50] <Kealper> lern: and stop with that sort of language
#2472 [15:50] <lern> nytangel
#2473 [15:50] <TheNytangel> I'm sure you know this..
#2474 [15:50] <lern> thenytangel
#2475 [15:50] <lern> What?!
#2476 [15:50] <TheNytangel> But shh
#2477 [15:50] <oldtopman> lern: I have little concern for names
#2478 [15:50] <TheNytangel> Don't talk about that stuff
#2479 [15:50] <lern> He was offended if I asked him if he was a possibly gay dancer which destroyed robots with dreydals.
#2480 [15:50] <oldtopman> >.>
#2481 [15:51] <Kealper> it was probably just more of you got it so entirely wrong on his name, than anytyhing
#2482 [15:51] <Kealper> anything*
#2483 [15:51] <lern> ...
#2484 [15:51] <lern> Then why rage?!
#2485 [15:51] <Kealper> but yet again
#2486 [15:51] <jonno11> almostroot: Any ideas?
#2487 [15:51] <Kealper> i have not been paying much attention
#2488 [15:52] <lern> so
#2489 [15:52] <lern> again
#2490 [15:52] <lern> LoL or TF2?
#2491 [15:53] <TheNytangel> -_-
#2492 [15:53] <Kealper> lern: this is a help channel, not a general discussion channel
#2493 [15:53] <TheNytangel> You choose
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#2495 [15:54] <almostroot> jonno11: run java -version
#2496 [15:54] <almostroot> jonno11: Let me know the output
#2497 [15:54] <zaedas99> Hello
#2498 [15:54] <Kealper> zaedas99: hi
#2499 [15:54] <zaedas99> Is there anyone available right now ?
#2500 [15:54] <almostroot> jonno11: And are you running a stock server (no modifications) or bukkit?
#2501 [15:54] <jonno11> I've installed the manual self-extracting package (release 26) to a custom directory due to errors from apt-get
#2502 [15:55] <Kealper> zaedas99: just ask the question, if someone knows the answer, they will help
#2503 [15:55] <jonno11> and running using the direct path instead of just "java"
#2504 [15:55] <TheNytangel> ??>> zaedas99 ask
#2505 [15:55] <Kealper> TheNytangel: vox isn't here right now, due to a power outage
#2506 [15:55] * mib_tf2bdj [mib_tf2bdj@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2507 [15:55] <TheNytangel> >:o
#2508 [15:56] <zaedas99> okay. My problem is the following : I keep having "bad login error" when i try to join my minecraft server on brohoster, but also on any other "web" server. When it's hosted by a friend on his own computer, there's no problem at all
#2509 [15:56] <zaedas99> why ?
#2510 [15:56] <jonno11> almostroot: yep, 100% vanilla
#2511 [15:56] <Kealper> zaedas99: try connecting to a server called s.nerd.nu
#2512 [15:56] <almostroot> jonno11: That is why it's crashing.
#2513 [15:56] <zaedas99> Roger
#2514 [15:56] <TheNytangel> I feel like going for a bike ride..
#2515 [15:57] <mib_tf2bdj> i have problem like this # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x69c203f3, pid=5324, tid=5296 # # JRE version: 6.0_26-b03 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.1-b02 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [nvoglv32.dll+0x7203f3] # # If you would like to submit a
#2516 [15:57] <Kealper> mib_tf2bdj: Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
#2517 [15:57] <MoppTopp> I cannot get my minecraft folder..
#2518 [15:57] <MoppTopp> I have a mac
#2519 [15:57] <Morrolan> ??> MoppTopp mac/.minecraft
#2520 [15:57] <jonno11> almostroot: what is why?
#2521 [15:57] <Morrolan> Oh, right
#2522 [15:57] <TheNytangel> Morrolan.. lol
#2523 [15:57] <zaedas99> kealper : its working
#2524 [15:57] <Morrolan> MoppTopp: I think it's here:
#2525 [15:57] <almostroot> jonno11: Java didn't uninstall/install properly and it's not in your path.
#2526 [15:57] <Kealper> mib_tf2bdj: but before you even do that....go reinstall your graphics drivers from http://nvidia.com
#2527 [15:58] <Morrolan> MoppTopp: <username>->library->application support->minecraft
#2528 [15:58] <Morrolan> MoppTopp: Not sure though, don't own a amc.
#2529 [15:58] <jonno11> it's definately there - the file is running. It's just after about 3 mins it crashes with no error.
#2530 [15:58] <Kealper> zaedas99: oh? hmm...try a server that didn't work before then
#2531 [15:58] <zaedas99> Sure, hold one a sec
#2532 [15:58] <almostroot> jonno11: Run these commands: sudo apt-get remove openjdk-6-jdk sun-java6-jdk
#2533 [15:58] <mib_tf2bdj> http://pastebin.com/eHHrbPzu
#2534 [15:59] <mib_tf2bdj> this is my problem
#2535 [15:59] <almostroot> jonno11: Then reninstall Java with this: suod apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
#2536 [15:59] <Kealper> mib_tf2bdj: go to http://nvidia.com and install the latest drivers from there
#2537 [15:59] <zaedas99> What the...
#2538 [15:59] <mib_tf2bdj> it will help???
#2539 [15:59] <zaedas99> And now it's working =_=
#2540 [15:59] <TheNytangel> Well.. I wanna go for a bike ride, but I don't know where to
#2541 [16:00] <Kealper> zaedas99: your game's session id wasn't right, it appears to have fixed itself :P
#2542 [16:00] <Eddie> You must find out where to bike.
#2543 [16:00] <Kealper> mib_tf2bdj: it should
#2544 [16:00] <zaedas99> kealper : yup. Anyway thanks for tha' help
#2545 [16:01] <jonno11> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
#2546 [16:01] <jonno11> I'm having huge errors with apt-get
#2547 [16:01] <Kealper> jonno11: sounds like it's time to reinstall the os then
#2548 [16:01] <mib_tf2bdj> which drivers should i install
#2549 [16:01] <zchr> nah, just add sbin and stuff to your path
#2550 [16:02] <zchr> it could be multiple problems, though
#2551 [16:02] <TheNytangel> If only I had money..
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#2553 [16:02] <TheNytangel> Hold on, I'm going to go check if my neighbor needs his lawn mowed.. either way, I'm not going to do it.
#2554 [16:02] <Kealper> mib_tf2bdj: do you know what video card your computer has?
#2555 [16:03] <jonno11> hmm i would ,but I have a radio station set up ready to run, it took me ages!
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#2557 [16:03] <zchr> haha, i'm so rich, i've gotten over $0.50 in ad revenue from project wonderful
#2558 [16:03] <jonno11> it's not running now btw
#2559 [16:03] <TheNytangel> zchr, I have $50 in birthday money
#2560 [16:04] * Patze^ [Patze^@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2561 [16:04] <Kealper> i have $104 in my pocket right now
#2562 [16:04] * ApoPlexia [ApoPlexia@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2563 [16:04] <Wug> you did use sudo apt-get right?
#2564 [16:04] * Tanjoodo_ [Tanjoodo_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2565 [16:04] <jonno11> for what Wug?
#2566 [16:04] <Wug> w/o the sudo it will fail misrerable
#2567 [16:04] <Wug> miserably*
#2568 [16:04] <TheNytangel> Kealper, old people have jobs. That's why.
#2569 [16:04] * Kealper cries in a corner
#2569 [16:04] <TheNytangel> D:
#2570 [16:05] * TheNytangel is sorry
#2570 [16:05] * Wug has a job... :c
#2570 [16:05] * TheNytangel could technically get a job, but doesn't want to get one :)
#2570 [16:05] * zchr pretends he has a job
#2570 [16:05] * TheNytangel is 14 now :D
#2570 [16:05] * zchr is unsurprised
#2570 [16:06] * TheNytangel thinks we are using /me too much
#2570 [16:06] <ApoPlexia> Hello everyboddy, i have a problem with my minecraft server on a debian server. i looks like a problem with java. can someboddy help me?
#2571 [16:06] * Eddie uses /me uses /me uses /me uses...
#2571 [16:06] <zchr> /me how do i use me
#2572 [16:07] <TheNytangel> /me doesn't know
#2573 [16:07] <Kealper> /me thinks just about everyone knows how to do this on their clients by now
#2574 [16:07] <ApoPlexia> the massage is:
#2575 [16:07] <TheNytangel> ApoPlexia, we don't have VoxelHead. I couldn't tell you
#2576 [16:07] <ApoPlexia> java.lang.NullPointerException
#2577 [16:07] <ApoPlexia> at ll.p_(SourceFile:128)
#2578 [16:07] <ApoPlexia> at dh.a(SourceFile:1160)
#2579 [16:07] <ApoPlexia> at dn.a(SourceFile:43)
#2580 [16:07] <ApoPlexia> at dh.g(SourceFile:1136)
#2581 [16:07] <Kealper> oh lord
#2582 [16:07] <ApoPlexia> at dh.e(SourceFile:1115)
#2583 [16:07] <ApoPlexia> at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.h(SourceFile:374)
#2584 [16:07] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2585 [16:07] <ApoPlexia> at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(SourceFile:307)
#2586 [16:07] <ApoPlexia> at bo.run(SourceFile:422)
#2587 [16:07] <ApoPlexia> 2011-06-27 20:02:04 [SEVERE] Unexpected exception
#2588 [16:07] <ApoPlexia> java.lang.NullPointerException
#2589 [16:07] <TheNytangel> ApoPlexia, pastebin.com
#2590 [16:08] <Kealper> oh man i need a /mute
#2591 [16:08] <ApoPlexia> at ll.p_(SourceFile:128)
#2592 [16:08] <TheNytangel> ApoPlexia, pastebin.com
#2593 [16:08] <TheNytangel> ApoPlexia, pastebin.com
#2594 [16:08] <ApoPlexia> at dh.a(SourceFile:1160)
#2595 [16:08] <TheNytangel> ApoPlexia, pastebin.com
#2596 [16:08] <ApoPlexia> at dn.a(SourceFile:43)
#2597 [16:08] <TheNytangel> ApoPlexia, pastebin.com
#2598 [16:08] <ApoPlexia> at dh.g(SourceFile:1136)
#2599 [16:08] * Kealper kicked ApoPlexia from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ApoPlexia)
#2600 [16:08] <TheNytangel> ApoPlexia, pastebin.com
#2601 [16:08] <jonno11> dude seriously
#2602 [16:08] <zchr> WE NEED VOXELHEAD
#2603 [16:08] <TheNytangel> +10
#2604 [16:08] <Kealper> vox wouldn't have caught that
#2605 [16:08] <zchr> o rly?
#2606 [16:08] <Kealper> it was too slow
#2607 [16:08] <jonno11> Anybody have any ideas on my issue?
#2608 [16:08] <zchr> ah.
#2609 [16:08] <jonno11> java is installed correctly
#2610 [16:08] <jonno11> I think
#2611 [16:10] <Kealper> -!- Irssi: Alias mute added
#2612 [16:10] <Kealper> now to make an /unmute
#2613 [16:10] <TheNytangel> I think I almost got hit by a car earlier..
#2614 [16:10] * FLAcK_ [FLAcK_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
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#2616 [16:11] <TheNytangel> Leaving so soon?
#2617 [16:11] <zchr> 20:08 < jonno11> Anybody have any ideas on my issue?
#2618 [16:11] <zchr> 20:08 < zchr> ah.
#2619 [16:11] <zchr> 20:08 < jonno11> java is installed correctly
#2620 [16:11] <zchr> 20:08 < jonno11> I think
#2621 [16:11] <zchr> 20:10 <@Kealper> -!- Irssi: Alias mute added
#2622 [16:12] <zchr> dammit, i accidentally pasted something
#2623 [16:12] * ApoPlexia [ApoPlexia@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2624 [16:12] <TheNytangel> -!- Irssi: Alias mute added
#2625 [16:12] <TheNytangel> >:o
#2626 [16:12] <TheNytangel> Sure, don't work for me then
#2627 [16:12] <TheNytangel> <@Kealper> -!- Irssi: Alias mute added
#2628 [16:12] <zchr> it doesn't work like that :)
#2629 [16:12] <Kealper> ApoPlexia: yeah...uhh....pasting all that into IRC was probably a bad idea
#2630 [16:12] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2631 [16:13] <TheNytangel> I kept saying pastebin.com to no avail
#2632 [16:13] <zchr> can't stop the paste
#2633 [16:13] <TheNytangel> It went that slow?
#2634 [16:13] <ApoPlexia> right, it seams so.
#2635 [16:14] <zchr> what you pasted eariler just sounds like a minecraft crash
#2636 [16:14] <Kealper> he wasn't pasting it line for line, he just pasted it into his client and his client sent it line for line, slowly so it didn't flood him off the server
#2637 [16:14] <TheNytangel> ApoPlexia, pastebin.com
#2638 [16:14] <TheNytangel> :P
#2639 [16:15] <jonno11> Right I've fixed apt-get
#2640 [16:15] <jonno11> hit me. What do I do next?
#2641 [16:15] * TheNytangel hits jonno11
#2641 [16:15] <Wug> WHAT WHERES VOX
#2642 [16:15] <Wug> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
#2643 [16:15] <TheNytangel> Dead
#2644 [16:16] <Wug> DOPEGHOTI
#2645 [16:16] <TheNytangel> Died because of a power outage
#2646 [16:16] <jonno11> Bit uncalled for TheNytangel...
#2647 [16:16] <ApoPlexia> and now i can send the RAW Paste Data?
#2648 [16:16] <TheNytangel> And xales didn't have a surge protector
#2649 [16:16] <zchr> just paste the url
#2650 [16:16] <Kealper> xales doesn't run it
#2651 [16:16] <Kealper> dopeghoti does
#2652 [16:16] <TheNytangel> :o
#2653 [16:16] <mib_tf2bdj> Kealper: i dont know
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#2655 [16:16] <ApoPlexia> http://pastebin.com/vvkMAxHq
#2656 [16:16] <Wug> lol xales has his own datacenter (probably)
#2657 [16:16] <zchr> is it eggdrop?
#2658 [16:16] <TheNytangel> dopeghoti didn't have a surge protector
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#2660 [16:17] <Kealper> yes, vox is an eggdrop
#2661 [16:17] <TheNytangel> Nowai
#2662 [16:17] <Wug> and is probably the ceo of google
#2663 [16:17] <jonno11> almostroot: The java package is not found by apt-get. It seems it isn't in the default repos...
#2664 [16:17] <zchr> send meh teh source and i'll run it, heh
#2665 [16:17] <zchr> 41 days of uptime, what what
#2666 [16:17] <Wug> dopeghoti - mail me your hard drive
#2667 [16:17] <Kealper> that's pretty weak
#2668 [16:17] <TheNytangel> dopeghoti is away
#2669 [16:17] <Wug> he'll get the poke
#2670 [16:17] <zchr> the restart was to limit some bandwidth stuff
#2671 [16:17] <Wug> maybe
#2672 [16:18] <TheNytangel> -_-
#2673 [16:18] <zchr> before, it was more around 150 days
#2674 [16:18] <Wug> jonno11 - sudo apt-get install sun-java-jre6
#2675 [16:18] <Wug> enable multiverse repositories
#2676 [16:18] <jonno11> Wug: E: Couldn't find package sun-java-jre6
#2677 [16:18] <Wug> enable multiverse repositories
#2678 [16:18] <Wug> you're using ubuntu?
#2679 [16:19] <jonno11> how do i do that? Yeah
#2680 [16:19] <Wug> you have the package manager thingy?
#2681 [16:19] <jonno11> I have apt-get yeah
#2682 [16:19] <Wug> the software center
#2683 [16:19] <zchr> do you have aptitude?
#2684 [16:19] <jonno11> I'm on ubuntu server btw
#2685 [16:19] <jonno11> yeah I do
#2686 [16:19] <Wug> so am I
#2687 [16:19] <zchr> 1 sec
#2688 [16:20] <Wug> do you have a gui installed, or are you cli only
#2689 [16:20] <jonno11> cli only - its a vps
#2690 [16:20] <jonno11> SSH'ing into it
#2691 [16:20] <zchr> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
#2692 [16:20] <Wug> you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
#2693 [16:20] <Kealper> mib_tf2bdj: sorry, busy right now.... what operating system do yo uhave?
#2694 [16:20] <jonno11> ok in there now, what do I change?
#2695 [16:21] <zchr> add multiverse to the end of main or whatever you see
#2696 [16:21] <Wug> ill pastebin mine, modify as necessary and save
#2697 [16:21] <zchr> you'll see something like deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
#2698 [16:21] <zchr> add multiverse to the end
#2699 [16:21] <jonno11> hang on I'll pastebin mine
#2700 [16:21] <jonno11> http://mibpaste.com/NWI1TY
#2701 [16:21] <zchr> wait, isn't java partners?
#2702 [16:21] <jonno11> thought so
#2703 [16:21] <jonno11> this was why I was so confused
#2704 [16:22] <Wug> http://pastebin.com/59EkpP1M
#2705 [16:22] <zchr> hmm, just add both, i guess, or download the binaries from java.com
#2706 [16:22] <Wug> its easier to just get multiverse set up and apt-get it
#2707 [16:22] <zchr> okay, just try multiverse then
#2708 [16:22] <jonno11> I do have it set up I think...
#2709 [16:22] <jonno11> Look at my pastebin
#2710 [16:23] <Wug> I put a gui on mine because I use it as a desktop, and I had to do that before I installed java
#2711 [16:23] <jonno11> (really appreciate the help btw)
#2712 [16:23] <Wug> lucid lynx is 10.4, right?
#2713 [16:23] <zchr> he's running it off a vps, a gui would just add more load
#2714 [16:24] <Wug> you might still be able to ssh into it with x forwarding. give that a try sometime
#2715 [16:24] <zchr> sun java6 is in multiverse
#2716 [16:24] <zchr> type apt-get update
#2717 [16:24] <Wug> ^ may/may not require sudo?
#2718 [16:24] <zchr> after you've edited sources.list
#2719 [16:24] <lalaka> Hi. Minecraft does not work on my computer because it does not have enough memeory (has 1GB), but I can add more memory for a cost - up to 2GB.... However I do not want to buy more if the game still won't work. So will it work with SiS mirage graphics; chip SiS 761; 32MB RAM
#2720 [16:24] <zchr> sudo apt-get update, fine.
#2721 [16:24] <jonno11> ok have done
#2722 [16:24] <Wug> thats a really weak graphics chip
#2723 [16:24] <mib_tf2bdj> Kealper windows vista
#2724 [16:25] <jonno11> wait hang on
#2725 [16:25] <Wug> lalaka, you'd be better off buying a different computer
#2726 [16:25] <jonno11> is my current sources.list ok?
#2727 [16:25] <zchr> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
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#2729 [16:25] <Wug> is it what you pastebinned?
#2730 [16:25] <jonno11> yep
#2731 [16:25] <zchr> that looks about right
#2732 [16:26] <jonno11> ok cool. right I got: sun-java6-jre is already the newest version.
#2733 [16:26] <lalaka> Forget... anyway of getting money back?
#2734 [16:26] <jonno11> yet java -version still says "java -version java version "1.6.0_24""
#2735 [16:26] <lalaka> iyt
#2736 [16:26] <lalaka> it
#2737 [16:26] <TheNytangel> I have 26
#2738 [16:27] <lalaka> sorry
#2739 [16:27] <jonno11> yeah that's the most recent one - but apt-get doesn't see it.
#2740 [16:27] <lalaka> anyway.............
#2741 [16:27] <zchr> We do not issue refunds for purchased games and/or services. If you can't successfully run the game on your computer due to technical difficulties, most of the time this is due to some minor technical issue, which can be solved.
#2742 [16:27] <zchr> ^^from minecraft.net
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#2744 [16:28] <Wug> OPENJDK Y U REINSTALL YOURSELF
#2745 [16:29] <zchr> ??> Wug dont/shout
#2746 [16:29] <zchr> fffff
#2747 [16:29] <TheNytangel> lol
#2748 [16:29] <Wug> ?? index
#2749 [16:29] <TheNytangel> Vox isn't here
#2750 [16:29] <Wug> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
#2751 [16:29] <lalaka> Where does it say that?
#2752 [16:29] <Kealper> ?? vox/isdown
#2753 [16:29] <Morrolan> haha
#2754 [16:29] <TheNytangel> lol
#2755 [16:29] * Wug panics
#2755 [16:29] <zchr> !ping
#2756 [16:29] <GreyBot> zchr Your Ping time was 2.762 seconds.
#2757 [16:29] <TheNytangel> !ping
#2758 [16:30] <Wug> maybe I'll get wugbot in here
#2759 [16:30] <TheNytangel> -_- don't tell me I'm that slow
#2760 [16:30] <jonno11> Wug - I do have a 26 version
#2761 [16:30] <Wug> I'll write a factoid command
#2762 [16:30] <TheNytangel> !ping
#2763 [16:30] <GreyBot> TheNytangel Your Ping time was 0.593 seconds.
#2764 [16:30] <TheNytangel> :D
#2765 [16:30] <Wug> !ping
#2766 [16:30] <zchr> i'm using irssi, it slows down ctcp request, apparently
#2767 [16:30] <jonno11> !ping
#2768 [16:30] <GreyBot> jonno11 Your Ping time was 0.187 seconds.
#2769 [16:30] <zchr> *requests
#2770 [16:30] <Wug> !ping
#2771 [16:30] <lalaka> HEY
#2772 [16:30] <mib_tf2bdj> adsfhgh
#2773 [16:30] <TheNytangel> Lol Wug
#2774 [16:30] <Wug> I guess I'm unpingable
#2775 [16:30] <lalaka> Where does it say that?
#2776 [16:30] <TheNytangel> Do it again
#2777 [16:30] <jonno11> ;)
#2778 [16:30] <zchr> http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#2779 [16:31] <TheNytangel> Wug, you do it right after someone so it doesn't do it
#2780 [16:31] <Kealper> ok so...does anyone want to tell mib_tf2bdj how to install the latest graphics drivers for an nvidia card?
#2781 [16:31] <zchr> payment > refund
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#2783 [16:31] <zchr> mib_tf2bdj: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
#2784 [16:31] <Kealper> Wug: aubot already has a factoid thing, it's just not used in here
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#2786 [16:31] <TheNytangel> Wug, we might also get an AngelBot ;)
#2787 [16:31] <ApoPlexia> is anyboddy looking for my problem right now? (just asking ;) )
#2788 [16:32] <zchr> ApoPlexia, try redownloading the minecraft server client
#2789 [16:32] <zchr> it looks like the server just crashed
#2790 [16:32] * Kealper has to go afk now
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#2791 [16:32] <TheNytangel> Kealper, how many bots are aloud in this channel
#2792 [16:32] <TheNytangel> Darn it, I was too late
#2793 [16:32] <zchr> allowed?
#2794 [16:32] <ApoPlexia> doesnt work. i tryed it. also to reload java
#2795 [16:32] <TheNytangel> Shh...
#2796 [16:32] <Kealper> TheNytangel: 3
#2797 [16:32] <Wug> !ping
#2798 [16:32] <GreyBot> Wug Your Ping time was 0.265 seconds.
#2799 [16:32] <TheNytangel> D: Kealper, how many are here now?
#2800 [16:33] <Kealper> 3
#2801 [16:33] <TheNytangel> D:
#2802 [16:33] <TheNytangel> VoxelHead isn't here
#2803 [16:33] <Kealper> vox will be back as soon as dope gets back from whereever (work?) and turns his home server back on
#2804 [16:33] <ApoPlexia> i also reload the bin file on my pc to be sure that its not a problem of the fly mod.
#2805 [16:33] <Kealper> now seriously, i have to go afk
#2806 [16:33] <kevin47> I play on a small whitelist server and I want a copy of our world as a backup, but our mod has been super busy and hasn't been able to give me one. Can I download the world somehow and save it myself?
#2807 [16:33] <zchr> oh, this is a client problem?
#2808 [16:33] <zchr> kevin47: no.
#2809 [16:34] <lalaka> Thank you!
#2810 [16:34] <ApoPlexia> no, its a server problem.
#2811 [16:34] * TheNytangel wants to go bycicling now
#2811 [16:34] <TheNytangel> Maybe around the block a couple times..
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#2813 [16:35] <TheNytangel> Maybe up landfill hill.. HA. Just kidding
#2814 [16:35] <TheNytangel> It's just like Black Mason.. "Maybe Black Mason...... That was a joke, haha. Fat chance"
#2815 [16:35] <ApoPlexia> here is the link to the pastebin again: http://pastebin.com/vvkMAxHq
#2816 [16:36] <TheNytangel> Still Alive ft
#2817 [16:36] <TheNytangel> ftw*
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#2819 [16:36] <Kealper> TheNytangel: Mesa
#2820 [16:36] <reedlepee> hey
#2821 [16:36] * Kealper is done doing crap on his computer and is off now
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#2822 [16:36] <TheNytangel> Kealper, what? I thought you were AFK..
#2823 [16:37] <TheNytangel> Ok I think I will go around the block a couple times
#2824 [16:37] <TheNytangel> Be back in a bit
#2825 [16:37] <reedlepee> my minecraft will not let me mmake buttons or pressure pads out of stone? can anyone help?
#2826 [16:37] <TheNytangel> Or just once..
#2827 [16:37] <TheNytangel> reedlepee, smooth stone, not cobblestone
#2828 [16:37] <reedlepee> oh, how do i get smooth stone?
#2829 [16:38] <jonno11> Ahhhhh this could be the issue. I just re-installed java & got this. /proc is not mounted; some java apps may fail
#2830 [16:38] <TheNytangel> Cook it in the furnace, cobblestone
#2831 [16:38] <reedlepee> oh right
#2832 [16:38] <reedlepee> thanks
#2833 [16:38] <TheNytangel> :P
#2834 [16:38] * TheNytangel is going to be gone for a minute or 10
#2834 [16:39] <jonno11> almostroot: I just reinstalled java and got "/proc is not mounted; some java apps may fail"
#2835 [16:39] <reedlepee> anyone know when 1.7 is being released, gots some cool ideas for the pistons
#2836 [16:39] <zchr> no one knows
#2837 [16:39] <jonno11> Yeah the pistons look awesome
#2838 [16:39] <reedlepee> oh wait, on notch's twitter, it says thursday
#2839 [16:40] <reedlepee> and on the blog, it says 1.7 is being split up, so pistons are comign but adventure stuff will take longer and be in 1.8
#2840 [16:41] <lalaka> We now realise we would need to buy more memory to play the game and it did not say how much memory a computer needed to run the game, also we need a new graphics (or video) card - this makes the game 'not fit for purpose' on our computer... would you please consider a refund...
#2841 [16:41] <zchr> people have had problems reaching anyone from mojang
#2842 [16:42] <zchr> you probably won't get a response
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#2844 [16:43] <reedlepee> the final game, i wonder how much will be added to it
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#2846 [16:44] <ApoPlexia> @zchr: any ideas for my problem?
#2847 [16:44] <almostroot> lalaka: We are not official Mojang support. We are volunteers. Please contact them at minecraft.net/support
#2848 [16:45] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: What is your issue?
#2849 [16:45] <ApoPlexia> http://pastebin.com/vvkMAxHq
#2850 [16:45] <lalaka> oh well thanks anyway
#2851 [16:45] <lalaka> bye
#2852 [16:46] <zchr> i have no clue
#2853 [16:46] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Please check your java version here: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2854 [16:46] <ApoPlexia> i have a minecraft server on a debian server. but now, i just get this massage on the server. so i think i have a problem with java
#2855 [16:46] <almostroot> Wiat, ignore that then if it's a server.
#2856 [16:47] <zchr> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
#2857 [16:47] <zchr> dpkg --purge sun-java6-jre
#2858 [16:47] <almostroot> zchr: They may not jave Sun Java installed. THat just updates the system.
#2859 [16:48] <zchr> do you have openjdk or sun java installed?
#2860 [16:49] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: I would start by entering this: java -version
#2861 [16:49] <ApoPlexia> sun java
#2862 [16:50] <zchr> try reinstalling it. do dpkg --purge sun-java6-jre, then sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
#2863 [16:50] <zchr> *sudo dpkg
#2864 [16:50] <ApoPlexia> java version 1.6.0_26
#2865 [16:51] <zchr> that's the newest version
#2866 [16:51] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Do you know if openjdk is installed as well?
#2867 [16:51] <ApoPlexia> should i try to reinstall?
#2868 [16:51] <ApoPlexia> i dont know
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#2871 [16:52] <almostroot> Run this: dpkg --get-selections | grep jdk
#2872 [16:52] <zchr> dpkg -l works, too
#2873 [16:53] <ApoPlexia> hm... he is doing nothing
#2874 [16:53] <nerostar> if i drop my pickaxe and my compass and i go over them i get two of them. Need help
#2875 [16:53] <almostroot> nerostar: Using mods or playing on a server that uses them?
#2876 [16:54] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Try uninstalling it just to be sure. sudo apt-get remove openjdk-6-jre
#2877 [16:54] <ApoPlexia> dpkg -1 send my some informations about using dpkg
#2878 [16:54] <zchr> -l, the letter
#2879 [16:55] <zchr> doesn't make sense to do it without grep, though
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#2882 [16:55] <ApoPlexia> wasnt installed he said
#2883 [16:56] <nerostar> i use a lot of monds
#2884 [16:56] <nerostar> essentials worldedit worldguard ...
#2885 [16:56] <almostroot> nerostar: Probably one of the mods you installed then.
#2886 [16:57] <almostroot> nerostar: We don't support bukkit or plugins. Check in #bukkit
#2887 [16:57] <TheNytangel> Well.. that hurt my croch
#2888 [16:57] <nerostar> ok thy
#2889 [16:57] <TheNytangel> So many pot holes..
#2890 [16:57] <mib_21fo9w> Hey i just bought the game but when i press play, It says "user not premium". Looked at your help site and there it said i was going to get a email. Havent got it.. What shall i do?
#2891 [16:58] <zchr> wait a bit for the payment to go through
#2892 [16:58] <mib_21fo9w> have waited for 1 hour
#2893 [16:58] <almostroot> mib_21fo9w: Can take 4-6 on average. Payments are not handled directly by Mojang, so they take time to process.
#2894 [16:59] <mib_21fo9w> okey then i know :) thx
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#2896 [17:00] <ApoPlexia> should i install openjdk
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#2898 [17:01] <TheNytangel> I just tried to take my inhalor and breathed in a piece of paper..
#2899 [17:01] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: No. What command are you using to run your server?
#2900 [17:02] <ApoPlexia> screen java -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2901 [17:02] <TheNytangel> shutdown -s
#2902 [17:02] <TheNytangel> ^ use that
#2903 [17:02] <ApoPlexia> ok
#2904 [17:02] <almostroot> TheNytangel: Please shut up or leave.
#2905 [17:02] <TheNytangel> No, don't
#2906 [17:02] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Do not do that.
#2907 [17:02] <ApoPlexia> i know. he was joking
#2908 [17:02] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2909 [17:03] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Has the server ever worked with that command?
#2910 [17:03] <ApoPlexia> yes. always... up till now
#2911 [17:03] <zchr> it's easy to fix, just type rm -rf /
#2912 [17:03] * AuBot kicked zchr from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please do not try tricking people with that.)
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#2914 [17:04] <zchr> heh
#2915 [17:04] <zchr> don't do that
#2916 [17:04] <ApoPlexia> ol
#2917 [17:04] <ApoPlexia> ok
#2918 [17:05] <zchr> what a smart bot
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#2920 [17:06] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Try defining memory for your server in the command. How much memory does your server have?
#2921 [17:07] <ApoPlexia> is there an esay way to find it out?
#2922 [17:07] <almostroot> this command: free -h
#2923 [17:07] <zchr> free -m
#2924 [17:08] <zchr> for megabytes
#2925 [17:08] <almostroot> Put the output on pastebin please.
#2926 [17:09] <zchr> free -h? that doesn't do anything
#2927 [17:09] <ApoPlexia> total: 4096 used: 200 free 3895
#2928 [17:10] <almostroot> zchr: Read the man pages. I teach Linux for a living.
#2929 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> zchr, TheNytangel, if there’s one thing I won’t tolerate here, it’s having users run command that could potentially harm their computers. Think before you tell users to do something.
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#2931 [17:11] <jonno11> I'm getting "java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: method java.net.ServerSocket.setPerformancePreferences with signature (III)V was not found." when I try to run the server now, any ideas as to what this is?
#2932 [17:11] <ApoPlexia> i tryed. free -h = invalid option
#2933 [17:11] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, it doesn't harm it. It just turns it off. The safe way.
#2934 [17:11] <zchr> i forgot to mention sudo
#2935 [17:12] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Try this line to start Minecraft: screen java -Xmx3072M -Xms3072M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#2936 [17:12] <ApoPlexia> ok
#2937 [17:12] <almostroot> zchr: I apologize, I use a private repo that does have the -h option added.
#2938 [17:12] <zchr> jonno11: try a different port, 25565 must be bound to something
#2939 [17:12] <zchr> almostroot: fancy
#2940 [17:12] <jonno11> Sure I'll try. Here's the full error btw http://mibpaste.com/Mib49k
#2941 [17:13] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: That will run your server using three of the four gigabytes of memory installed.
#2942 [17:13] <zchr> leaving overhead for java
#2943 [17:13] <ApoPlexia> ok. i will try it
#2944 [17:13] <jonno11> no luck, same error
#2945 [17:13] <zchr> type "java -version"
#2946 [17:14] <jonno11> oh s***
#2947 [17:14] <jonno11> 1.5
#2948 [17:14] <zchr> herp derp
#2949 [17:14] <jonno11> I just ran apt-get remove java then reinstalled it
#2950 [17:14] <jonno11> must have downgraded by mistake.
#2951 [17:14] <zchr> that's probably the problem, grab sun-java6-jre
#2952 [17:15] <jonno11> how can I rectify this?
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#2954 [17:15] <zchr> update-alternatives --config java
#2955 [17:15] <zchr> choose java-6
#2956 [17:15] <jonno11> I get: sun-java6-jre is already the newest version.
#2957 [17:15] <ApoPlexia> [screen is terminated]
#2958 [17:16] <ApoPlexia> sorry: terminating
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#2960 [17:16] <Billy> hey :) recently when I try to play Minecraft single player it just says that it's not downloaded
#2961 [17:17] <zchr> jonno11: sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-jre
#2962 [17:17] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Enter which java
#2963 [17:17] <almostroot> Will tell you the absolute path o the java binary.
#2964 [17:17] <Billy> uhmm It's the most up-to-date java from the website
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#2966 [17:18] <almostroot> Billy: There are others in the channel being assisted.
#2967 [17:18] <zchr> he's not talking to you.
#2968 [17:18] <Billy> Ooooh kk :) I'll wait
#2969 [17:18] <ApoPlexia> what do you mean?
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#2971 [17:18] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Enter this: which java
#2972 [17:18] <zchr> Billy, make sure you are logging in with the correct username and password
#2973 [17:18] <nhg_maniac> billy: log in, dont click offline
#2974 [17:19] <nhg_maniac> arrgh he was faster
#2975 [17:19] <jonno11> zchr: Package sun-java5-jre is not installed, so not removed
#2976 [17:19] <ApoPlexia> "/usr/bin/java" is the answer
#2977 [17:19] <jonno11> I got that^
#2978 [17:19] <jonno11> in what way?
#2979 [17:19] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Try this line to start Minecraft: screen -dmS minecraftServer /usr/bin/java -Xmx3072M -Xms3072M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#2980 [17:20] <zchr> jonno11: i'm stumped, there are other people here that could probably help
#2981 [17:20] <jonno11> almostroot hmm
#2982 [17:20] <jonno11> oops wp
#2983 [17:20] <almostroot> jonno11: Sounds like you have have isntalled java 5 outside of apt-get
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#2986 [17:21] <Roirraw> sons account Just wanted to know why our internet usage goes up by 1000mb when he plays is he suppose to download everytime?
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#2988 [17:21] <JustSarah> How do I get the uranium mod, when all the links to it are either not found, or broken?
#2989 [17:21] <almostroot> Roirraw: A lot of data is transfer when playing Minecraft.
#2990 [17:21] <jonno11> I had java 6 (24) before, then I apt-get removed it, then I apt-get installed it
#2991 [17:21] <ApoPlexia> hm... now he is doing nothing. just given a new line
#2992 [17:21] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Try screen -r minecraftServer
#2993 [17:21] <Roirraw> is it better to play in browser or download?
#2994 [17:22] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Should reattach the screen session.
#2995 [17:22] <almostroot> Roirraw: They both are about the same.
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#2998 [17:22] <ApoPlexia> there is no screen to be resumed matching minecraftServer
#2999 [17:22] <Roirraw> Thank You
#3000 [17:22] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Try just screen -r
#3001 [17:22] <JustSarah> Well if your not going to help, can you lead to the minecraft help channel?
#3002 [17:23] <ApoPlexia> same
#3003 [17:23] <almostroot> JustSarah: This is the minecraft help channel, we do not support mods.
#3004 [17:23] <almostroot> JustSarah: Try #risucraft
#3005 [17:23] <pinkpotato> surely the forum is not down AGAIN???
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#3007 [17:23] <zchr> or #mcmods
#3008 [17:24] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Try this line to start Minecraft: /usr/bin/java -Xmx3072M -Xms3072M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3009 [17:24] <JustSarah> Yea its down.
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#3011 [17:24] <zchr> !up www.minecraftforum.net
#3012 [17:24] <GreyBot> zchr: It's not just you! http://www.minecraftforum.net looks down from here.
#3013 [17:24] <pinkpotato> incredible, i hope whoever runs it moves to a different service
#3014 [17:24] <zchr> it's not that simple
#3015 [17:24] <pinkpotato> well it's gotta be simpler than being down eight per cent of the time
#3016 [17:24] <pinkpotato> eighty
#3017 [17:25] <ApoPlexia> Unable to acces jarfile minecraft_server.jar
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#3019 [17:25] <zchr> ApoPlexia: are you in the server's folder?
#3020 [17:25] <ApoPlexia> cd minecraft
#3021 [17:25] <ApoPlexia> ups
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#3023 [17:26] <ApoPlexia> now, i am. sorry
#3024 [17:26] <ApoPlexia> should i try the last line?
#3025 [17:26] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Yes
#3026 [17:27] <ApoPlexia> Error occurred during initialization of VM
#3027 [17:27] <almostroot> jonno11: So what does java -version return exactly?
#3028 [17:28] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Is that all it said?
#3029 [17:28] <ApoPlexia> Could not reserve enough space for object heap
#3030 [17:28] <ApoPlexia> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
#3031 [17:28] <almostroot> change 3072 ro 2048
#3032 [17:28] <ApoPlexia> thats all
#3033 [17:28] <almostroot> ro/to
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#3035 [17:29] <Billy> When ever I open Minecraft, it says "The JVM could not be started. The Maximum heap size (-Xmx) might be too large or an antivirus or firewall tool could block the execution." Any ideas on what I should do?
#3036 [17:30] <ApoPlexia> run. now i will test it
#3037 [17:30] <ApoPlexia> same problem
#3038 [17:30] <almostroot> Billy: Are you using the .exe to start the server?
#3039 [17:30] <jonno11> Ok so now, whenever I attempt an install of sun-java6-jre, java 5 is installed. Any ideas? :S
#3040 [17:31] <Billy> yes, Im trying to play offline
#3041 [17:31] <Billy> but it won't even load to where I sign in anymore
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#3043 [17:34] <jonno11> almostroot: It returns "java version "1.5.0" gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.4.3"
#3044 [17:34] <Billy> I have looked everywhere else on what I should do, and my previous problem of it just saying "not downloaded" turned into the JVM thing
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#3046 [17:35] <Billy> I have even tried completely removing minecraft, and installing a new java, and no luck
#3047 [17:35] <almostroot> jonno11: Try this command to select Sun java: sudo update-alternatives --config java
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#3050 [17:36] <jonno11> almostroot: Ok I get this http://mibpaste.com/0E4LdM
#3051 [17:36] <almostroot> jonno11: Press 2
#3052 [17:36] <jonno11> Ok, now what?
#3053 [17:37] <almostroot> jonno11: Try the server.
#3054 [17:37] <cometen> hello
#3055 [17:37] <jonno11> ah ok I now have java version "1.6.0_24"
#3056 [17:37] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Are you purchasing a VPS?
#3057 [17:37] <jonno11> thanks almostroot
#3058 [17:37] <jonno11> although now back to the old problem
#3059 [17:37] <ApoPlexia> VPS?
#3060 [17:38] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Who's server are you using?
#3061 [17:38] <almostroot> jonno11: What was the old problem again?
#3062 [17:38] <almostroot> Billy: How much memory is on your system?
#3063 [17:38] <ApoPlexia> straroserver
#3064 [17:38] <cometen> Hey Any1 knows why minecraft client shut down after 5 min.
#3065 [17:38] <Billy> As in ram or memory available on my hardrive?
#3066 [17:39] <jonno11> almostroot: the server crashes after like 3 mins with no error :/
#3067 [17:39] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: What are the specs of the server you are using?
#3068 [17:39] <Billy> 2.35 gbs of free space on my hard drive and I'm running with a 1 gig of ram
#3069 [17:39] <almostroot> Billy: RAM and memory are the same thing. Hard drive space is something else.
#3070 [17:40] <almostroot> Billy: Your computer doesn't really have enough memory to run Minecraft.
#3071 [17:40] <Billy> it's run minecraft before o.o
#3072 [17:40] <almostroot> Billy: The Java virtual machine attemps to allocate 1GB to start with.
#3073 [17:40] <almostroot> Billy: Try running it in a browser, and see if that helps.
#3074 [17:41] <almostroot> jonno11: What is the exact command you're running to start your server?
#3075 [17:41] <almostroot> cometen: Is it giving you any errors?
#3076 [17:41] <cometen> yea this I get http://pastebin.com/kgh5Bcfy
#3077 [17:42] <Billy> well that just sucks :[
#3078 [17:42] <almostroot> cometen: Update Java here: www.java.com/getjava/
#3079 [17:42] <cometen> it started after i reinstalled my pc
#3080 [17:42] <ApoPlexia> Debian 6.0 RAm garanted 2 GB RAM-Max 4 GB Harddrive 50 GB
#3081 [17:43] <cometen> ok I will try that now. Ty
#3082 [17:44] <almostroot> Billy: You can try running it in a browser. If that doesn't work, try a reinstall by hitting the Windows Key+R entering %appdata% in the box that appears and hitting enter. In the folder that opens, find .minecraft and delete all folders BUT the saves folder. Try to start minecraft again.
#3083 [17:44] <jonno11> almostroot: java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3084 [17:44] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Try this line to start Minecraft: /usr/bin/java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3085 [17:44] <almostroot> jonno11: How much memory is available on your system?
#3086 [17:45] <jonno11> 2gb burst, 1gb normally
#3087 [17:45] <almostroot> jonno11: It may simply be running out of memory. How many people are using your server on average?
#3088 [17:45] <ApoPlexia> same sh**t
#3089 [17:46] <almostroot> ApoPlexia: Can I see the whole error copy and pasted?
#3090 [17:46] <ApoPlexia> ok
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#3092 [17:46] <jonno11> almostroot: none at the moment. not even me
#3093 [17:46] <Billywashere> Now it just says that it's not installed, like where play offline used to be
#3094 [17:47] <Billywashere> it all started when I tried to install a mod :[
#3095 [17:47] <ApoPlexia> http://pastebin.com/zf6wRsAG
#3096 [17:48] <almostroot> I need to elave for a moment. I'll be back in a bit. Sorry.
#3097 [17:49] <ApoPlexia> ok. no problem
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#3101 [17:52] <bezaban> ApoPlexia: you are running it with nobui, not nogui
#3102 [17:52] <mib_dqbmwk> i have trouble running the game
#3103 [17:52] <mib_dqbmwk> when i start it up
#3104 [17:52] <mib_dqbmwk> a error message comes up saying
#3105 [17:53] <ApoPlexia> ok. i will try it with the correct one
#3106 [17:53] <mib_dqbmwk> "the procedure entry point HttpQueryInfoA could not be located" why is it saying this
#3107 [17:54] <bezaban> doh. accidentally rebooted my machine
#3108 [17:54] <ApoPlexia> same problem
#3109 [17:54] <bezaban> ApoPlexia: also, I had some issues, not sure if it's the same one with IPV4/IPV6, got a similar message
#3110 [17:54] <moorent> My game exits at the menu or during world creation- no error report, the window just closes. Is there any fix for this? Ubuntu 11.04
#3111 [17:54] <bezaban> ApoPlexia: try java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3112 [17:55] <ApoPlexia> ahm... is it possible to copy and past it?
#3113 [17:55] <bezaban> hehe
#3114 [17:55] <bezaban> should be, depending on your client
#3115 [17:55] <bezaban> chatzilla I'm not familiar with
#3116 [17:55] <ApoPlexia> im working with putty
#3117 [17:56] <bezaban> ApoPlexia: should be able to just select and right click then
#3118 [17:56] <bezaban> well. right click pastes in putty
#3119 [17:56] <mib_dqbmwk> im having trouble running my game when i start it a loding error message comes up saying "the procedure entry point HttpQueryInfoA could not be located" why is it saying this
#3120 [17:56] <bezaban> per default
#3121 [17:57] <ApoPlexia> dont work. so i have to type
#3122 [17:57] <bezaban> :(
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#3124 [17:57] <sildiak> hello my problem is that my minecraft goes to the stage of connecting to server but doesent connect what should i do?
#3125 [17:59] <bezaban> sildiak: have you tried with multiple servers? does s.nerd.nu work?
#3126 [17:59] <sildiak> anyone here?
#3127 [18:00] <sildiak> ill try
#3128 [18:00] <ApoPlexia> Answer of the server: Could not create the Java virtual machine.
#3129 [18:00] <sildiak> it works but says bad login
#3130 [18:00] <bezaban> ApoPlexia: ick, then it's not the same issue I encountered I'm afraid
#3131 [18:01] <bezaban> sildiak: hm. s.nerd.nu should be open to all. bah :(
#3132 [18:01] <sildiak> try another server?
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#3134 [18:01] <ApoPlexia> no problem, but thx for trying
#3135 [18:02] <bezaban> I guess you could write a small java program, compile it and try to run it, just to verify the virtual machine actually working
#3136 [18:02] <Wug> voooooooooxxxxxxxxx :(
#3137 [18:03] <sildiak> i know java is running thou
#3138 [18:03] <Wug> you can also do java -version. this does initialize the jvm (if I'm not mistaken) and will give an error if something is wrong
#3139 [18:03] <bezaban> aah
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#3141 [18:03] <ApoPlexia> in the java folder or anywhere?
#3142 [18:03] <sildiak> the game is on but it wont connect me to online servers
#3143 [18:03] <Wug> check your firewall
#3144 [18:04] <sildiak> what about firewall
#3145 [18:04] <Wug> make sure you're using servers for the right version of minecraft too.
#3146 [18:04] <Wug> what error do you get when you try to connect?
#3147 [18:04] <sildiak> no i was playing on server like 5 min ago
#3148 [18:05] <sildiak> error connect timeout
#3149 [18:05] <ApoPlexia> Java dont send me any problems back
#3150 [18:05] <bezaban> sildiak: what's your minecraft username, I will whitelist you quickly and see what the server logs say
#3151 [18:05] <moorent> i've deleted my other versions of java as some people have suggested but am still crashing during world creation
#3152 [18:05] <Wug> sildiak, that usually means there's nothing on the other end
#3153 [18:05] <Wug> try a different server
#3154 [18:06] <sildiak> im sildiak
#3155 [18:06] <bezaban> k 1 sec.
#3156 [18:06] <bezaban> backing up world first ;)
#3157 [18:06] <Wug> !paid sildiak
#3158 [18:06] <sildiak> huh
#3159 [18:06] <sildiak> yes i have
#3160 [18:06] <ApoPlexia> !paid Apoplexia
#3161 [18:07] <sildiak> !paid wug
#3162 [18:07] <sildiak> ohhhhhhhh
#3163 [18:07] <ApoPlexia> OMG
#3164 [18:07] <Wug> my mc username isnt wug
#3165 [18:07] <bezaban> sildiak: connect to mc.snowcrashed.net
#3166 [18:07] <sildiak> what is?
#3167 [18:07] <moorent> !paid jesus
#3168 [18:07] <bezaban> or.. try :/
#3169 [18:07] <moorent> wat
#3170 [18:07] <Wug> AND I CANT REGISTER WUG BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE TOOK IT D:<
#3171 [18:08] <sildiak> error bad login'
#3172 [18:08] <bezaban> hmm
#3173 [18:08] <bezaban> it just says you lost connection
#3174 [18:08] <sildiak> then use wug wug
#3175 [18:09] <bezaban> not getting username either
#3176 [18:09] <sildiak> !paid Wugwug
#3177 [18:09] <Wug> I've registered wugbot
#3178 [18:09] <Wug> but not premium'd it
#3179 [18:09] <sildiak> !paid Wugbot'
#3180 [18:09] <bezaban> 2011-06-28 00:08:05 [INFO] /121.223.33.28:63571 lost connection
#3181 [18:09] <Kealper> same for aubot :3
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#3183 [18:09] <sildiak> ohmygod
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#3186 [18:09] <sildiak> !paid wugbot
#3187 [18:10] <bezaban> so you're getting trough. possibly a networking issue of some sorts
#3188 [18:10] <Wug> the server probably crashed or something
#3189 [18:10] <sildiak> how do i fix it?
#3190 [18:10] <bezaban> good question
#3191 [18:11] <bezaban> try disabling any firewall temporarily
#3192 [18:11] <Wug> I don't think disabling a firewall on your end will uncrash the server lol
#3193 [18:11] <Wug> what's the server's ip?
#3194 [18:11] <bezaban> Wug: server hasn't crashed
#3195 [18:11] <bezaban> it's mine, I just whitelisted him to see what the server logs said
#3196 [18:12] <Wug> mmk
#3197 [18:12] <sildiak> is a server free?
#3198 [18:12] <Wug> the software is
#3199 [18:12] <Wug> the hardware is if you own it
#3200 [18:12] <sildiak> running it?
#3201 [18:12] <moorent> you can host from your own system
#3202 [18:13] <moorent> you won't have the bandwidth to support many players though
#3203 [18:13] <Wug> lots of people rent it though because pro-hosted servers usually perform better
#3204 [18:13] <moorent> can anybody help me with my crash in ubuntu?
#3205 [18:13] <sildiak> so only arround 10 players?
#3206 [18:13] <Wug> I run one, I can get about 10 players on a 2 mb/s connection
#3207 [18:13] <Wug> (that's outgoing speed, measured in megabits)
#3208 [18:13] <sildiak> is that 2 mg of ram?
#3209 [18:13] <Wug> I give the server 4GB.
#3210 [18:14] <sildiak> because mine has 6mb of ram
#3211 [18:14] <sildiak> or wait 6gb
#3212 [18:14] <Wug> 4GB will run waaay more players than my connection will support
#3213 [18:14] <Wug> and I use the client on the same machine
#3214 [18:14] <moorent> you need a good upload speed to host a server
#3215 [18:14] <Wug> and I sometimes run multiple servers
#3216 [18:14] <Kealper> http://canihostaminecraftserver.com
#3217 [18:14] <Wug> it doesnt need to be that good
#3218 [18:14] <sildiak> anyone know how to make a server?
#3219 [18:14] <Wug> 2mb/s == 10 players with no lag
#3220 [18:15] <Wug> (upload bandwidth)
#3221 [18:15] <Wug> download is more or less unimportant because the server sends lots more than it receives
#3222 [18:16] <bezaban> 2mb/s is pretty high and/or expensive :)
#3223 [18:16] <bezaban> at least around here
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#3225 [18:16] <Kealper> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1360599921.png can i run a Minecraft server?
#3226 [18:16] <Wug> megabits, not bytes
#3227 [18:16] <bezaban> yeah
#3228 [18:17] <Wug> kealper, that'll get you ~50 players
#3229 [18:17] <sildiak> whitch is bigger mb or gb>
#3230 [18:17] <Wug> .........
#3231 [18:17] <Kealper> actually i'd probably place it around 25-30 players if i totally saturated my upload
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#3233 [18:17] <mib_pf0zp6> hello
#3234 [18:17] <Wug> GB > Gb == gb > MB > Mb == mb
#3235 [18:17] <Kealper> i used to run a 25 slot classic server way back when, and no one complained, but i forget how much upload it was sucking
#3236 [18:18] <Wug> kealper, you'd be fine running 50 players with that outgoing speed
#3237 [18:18] <moorent> my game keeps on crashing and I can't play at all, can anybody here help me?
#3238 [18:18] <Wug> idk how that correlates to classic
#3239 [18:18] <moorent> or direct me to somewhere that can?
#3240 [18:18] <Wug> moorent, have you updated java etc?
#3241 [18:18] <moorent> yes
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#3243 [18:18] <Wug> installed any mods?
#3244 [18:19] <Kealper> most i've had on for Beta was around 10 people and no one complained......i've never been able to test it lol
#3245 [18:19] <moorent> updated sun jave and uninstalled all the others
#3246 [18:19] <moorent> no, completely vanilla
#3247 [18:19] <Wug> classic or beta?
#3248 [18:19] <moorent> beta
#3249 [18:19] <Wug> mc username?
#3250 [18:19] <sildiak> can you link me download to the minecraft server?
#3251 [18:19] <moorent> moorent
#3252 [18:19] <Wug> !paid moorent
#3253 [18:19] <Wug> what error messages does it throw
#3254 [18:19] <moorent> none
#3255 [18:20] <bezaban> sildiak: minecraft.net
#3256 [18:20] <bezaban> then on the download page
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#3341 [18:24] <Kealper> !unload mod_bot
#3342 [18:25] <moorent> yes
#3343 [18:25] <Wug> what do you have for a video card
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#3345 [18:26] <Kealper> !load mod_bot
#3346 [18:26] <Kealper> anyways
#3347 [18:26] <moorent> Radeon HD 6250
#3348 [18:26] * almostroot is back.
#3348 [18:26] <moorent> it's a netbook, heh
#3349 [18:26] * Kealper is going to make aubot help out a bit with pastebin links if it can
#3349 [18:27] <Kealper> AuBot: nou
#3350 [18:27] <Wug> lol
#3351 [18:27] <jonno11> hi almostroot
#3352 [18:27] <Wug> moorent, radeon cards seem to not work well with linux xometimes
#3353 [18:27] <almostroot> jonno11: Your issue get resolved?
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#3355 [18:27] <Wug> it's probably a graphical failure of some sort
#3356 [18:27] <Wug> i'm not sure what to tell you :P
#3357 [18:28] <Wug> yell at them to make drivers that work
#3358 [18:28] <jonno11> almostroot: nope, I'm still here bugging people!
#3359 [18:28] <jonno11> sorry :L
#3360 [18:29] <moorent> bah, I don't want to have to boot windows just to play minecraft :(
#3361 [18:30] <jonno11> this is what I'm getting almostroot: http://mibpaste.com/0W7dhT
#3362 [18:30] <almostroot> jonno11: Looks like it is memory related. "2011-06-27 21:38:28 [WARNING] **** NOT ENOUGH RAM!"
#3363 [18:31] <jonno11> hmm what should I launch it with?
#3364 [18:31] <almostroot> jonno11: You said they give you "burst RAM"?
#3365 [18:31] <jonno11> yeah
#3366 [18:32] <cometen> Hey again. I tryed to reinstall java like you sayed, but minecraft client still shut down after 3 - 5 min http://pastebin.com/kgh5Bcfy
#3367 [18:32] <almostroot> jonno11: Change the -Xmx value to 1024M
#3368 [18:32] <jonno11> do you think i'm seeping into that, then it's shutting the process down as a result?
#3369 [18:32] <almostroot> jonno11: I think on insitial startup, it's using more than 512M
#3370 [18:32] <almostroot> cometen: Looks like you're still running the old version of Java. What operating system are you using?
#3371 [18:32] <jonno11> hmm ok, trying that now
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#3373 [18:33] <cometen> windows 7
#3374 [18:34] <cometen> it tell me that i have the new version of java
#3375 [18:35] <almostroot> cometen: The Java site told you that?
#3376 [18:35] <cometen> yea
#3377 [18:36] <cometen> if windows isnt opdated can it be that
#3378 [18:36] <almostroot> cometen: May need to reinstall. Try this: Hit the Windows Key+R and enter %appdata% in the box that appears and hit enter. In the folder that opens, find .minecraft and delete all folders EXCEPT the saves folder. Try to start Minecraft again.
#3379 [18:37] <jonno11> almostroot: the same thing happens :/
#3380 [18:37] <almostroot> cometen: Couldn't hurt.
#3381 [18:37] <cometen> ok
#3382 [18:37] <almostroot> jonno11: Testing something on my server. Hold on a sec.
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#3384 [18:40] * almostroot laothes Oracle.
#3384 [18:40] <almostroot> Loathes too!
#3385 [18:40] <Product> Hi all.
#3386 [18:40] <Product> I would like to ask for help.
#3387 [18:40] <Product> I have a VPS server.
#3388 [18:40] <Product> and
#3389 [18:41] <Product> It's a CentOS VPS.
#3390 [18:41] <almostroot> Product: Thank god. I'm tired of Ubuntu, lol. What's your issue?
#3391 [18:41] <Product> And I have all access to it, but I want to setup a Minecraft Classic server on it.
#3392 [18:41] <Product> It uses something called VNC.
#3393 [18:42] <Product> Nice almostroot :)
#3394 [18:42] <almostroot> Product: I would recommend shuttong off the gui and running it from command line.
#3395 [18:42] <almostroot> shutting*
#3396 [18:42] <Product> Yeah
#3397 [18:42] <Product> It doesn't have a GUI.
#3398 [18:42] <almostroot> Are you connecting to it via putty?
#3399 [18:42] <Product> No.
#3400 [18:43] <Product> I'am using dotblock
#3401 [18:43] <Product> They have a Java.
#3402 [18:43] <Product> And I use it, to connect with server.
#3403 [18:43] <almostroot> Product: Do you have the server IP address and root password?
#3404 [18:43] <Product> Yes.
#3405 [18:43] <Product> I have everything on it.
#3406 [18:43] <almostroot> And you're using Windows?
#3407 [18:43] <almostroot> On your local machine.
#3408 [18:43] <Product> I'am on windows.
#3409 [18:43] <Product> Yes.
#3410 [18:44] <Product> But server CentOS.
#3411 [18:44] <almostroot> I recommend connecting to it with this: http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty-0.60-installer.exe
#3412 [18:44] <Product> Ok :)
#3413 [18:44] <Product> I'am downloading it.
#3414 [18:45] <Product> Is it better then the Java plugin they have ?
#3415 [18:45] <jonno11> haha "almostroot: Thank god. I'm tired of Ubuntu, lol" too true.
#3416 [18:45] <almostroot> Downlaod and install that using the default settings, run putty form the start menu, in Host Name, enter your server's IP. If is asks about a fingerprint, click Yes.
#3417 [18:45] <Product> Because I don't have much experience.
#3418 [18:45] <almostroot> Product: More stable and more professional. ;P
#3419 [18:45] <Product> Ok :)
#3420 [18:45] <Product> Thank you.
#3421 [18:45] <Product> But look
#3422 [18:45] <almostroot> Then we'll work on your server.
#3423 [18:45] <Product> I can't work good without GUI.
#3424 [18:45] <Product> Oh ok :)
#3425 [18:45] <Product> Thank you !:)
#3426 [18:45] <almostroot> Product: I teach CentOS/RHEL, lol.
#3427 [18:46] <Product> Really !?? I'am lucky lol !
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#3429 [18:46] <Product> I knew it, that I'am lucky :)
#3430 [18:46] <Product> Very nice that you teach CentOS.
#3431 [18:47] <Product> Is it a stable and good OS ?
#3432 [18:47] <almostroot> Product: Without paying for RHEL, yes, very stable, very reliable, low resource usage.
#3433 [18:47] <Product> Nice :)
#3434 [18:48] <Product> Ok, I'am connecting to PuTTY.
#3435 [18:48] <Product> Connect with SSH, right ?
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#3437 [18:48] <almostroot> Product: Yes.
#3438 [18:48] <Product> Ok :)
#3439 [18:48] <almostroot> jonno11: You there?
#3440 [18:49] <Product> I like the way
#3441 [18:49] <Product> That when you type password, it doesn't show.
#3442 [18:50] <almostroot> All about security.
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#3444 [18:51] <almostroot> Product: So minecraft classic, not beta, right?
#3445 [18:51] <Product> Yes.
#3446 [18:51] <Product> Classic.
#3447 [18:51] <Product> Beta is already installed on server.
#3448 [18:51] <Product> But I don't want it.
#3449 [18:51] <Product> I connected to VNC.
#3450 [18:51] <Product> I want to ask if it is possible to use MCLawl.
#3451 [18:51] <Product> I already have a Beta server hosted with BroHoster.
#3452 [18:52] <jonno11> almostroot: still here man
#3453 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Ouch, I’m sorry.
#3454 [18:52] <Product> :)
#3455 [18:52] <almostroot> jonno11: Try this: java -Xms512M -Xmx1536M -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=2 -XX:NewRatio=8 -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#3456 [18:53] <Product> almostroot: I don't have much experience with VNC, it's my first time.
#3457 [18:53] <eggy> what is are all those options :\
#3458 [18:53] <almostroot> Tells Minecraft to focus on creating new objects and clear away garbage, freesing memory as quick as possible.
#3459 [18:53] <Product> True.
#3460 [18:53] <eggy> ah
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#3462 [18:53] <jonno11> ok thanks trying it
#3463 [18:53] <almostroot> Product: You won't need to use VNC, you're using SSH like a pro.
#3464 [18:53] <Product> Oh, cool because I'am with a pro :)
#3465 [18:54] <slimer> how do i sujest something for a update to the creater
#3466 [18:54] <Product> It is possible to make a CLassic server, right ?
#3467 [18:55] <almostroot> Product: Are you connected to the server now? Yes, it is.
#3468 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Getsatisfaction.com/mojang
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#3470 [18:55] <Product> Yes.
#3471 [18:55] <slimer> how do i sujest something to the crater
#3472 [18:55] <Product> I'am connected with server.
#3473 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#3474 [18:55] <Product> And it's ready to type any command.
#3475 [18:55] <Product> I want to ask if you can maybe help me more via TeamViewer.
#3476 [18:55] <Product> It would be faster, and easier.
#3477 [18:55] <Syyyn> which flavor of linux should i run for playing minecraft on a box
#3478 [18:56] <jonno11> almostroot: same problem man :/
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#3480 [18:56] <slimer> how do i talk to the creater
#3481 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Try twitter, @notch
#3482 [18:56] <Product> Creator of Minecraft ?
#3483 [18:56] <oldtopmanserver> Syyyn: Slackware is *very* fast, but unless you know what youa re doing, you are doomed
#3484 [18:56] <yarg> i cant connect to minecraft because it keeps saying pixel format not accelerated
#3485 [18:56] <almostroot> Product: First, we want to create a new user, since you don't want your server to run as root. Do this with this command: useradd minecraft
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#3487 [18:56] <Product> Ok :)
#3488 [18:56] <mib_qwxh4t> hey uhh minecraft has been "crashing"" all day, every time i try to log in and play i get the same "minecraft has crashed!" message
#3489 [18:56] <mib_qwxh4t> how can i fix it?
#3490 [18:56] <Product> Done.
#3491 [18:56] <almostroot> oldtopmanserver: For the love of god don't recommend slack, lol.
#3492 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_qwxh4t - Could you please copy the error and paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL after you press the submit button
#3493 [18:57] <Kealper> Arch \o/
#3494 [18:57] <mib_qwxh4t> it wont let me copy it
#3495 [18:57] <Product> almostroot, can you maybe help me more via TeamViewer, it would be much more easier and faster.
#3496 [18:57] <yarg> how do i fix the error picture format not accelerated
#3497 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> yarg - Update your video drivers
#3498 [18:57] <almostroot> Product: Sure. PM me your info.
#3499 [18:57] <Product> Ok :)
#3500 [18:58] <Product> Thank you very much.
#3501 [18:58] <yarg> Video or graphics?
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#3503 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_qwxh4t - Could you try the downloaded client, and see if you can’t get the error from there
#3504 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> yarg - They’re the same thing
#3505 [18:58] <almostroot> GreyVulpine: Any suggestions for jonno11? I'm completely out.
#3506 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> almostroot - I’m not a *nix guru
#3507 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Sorry.
#3508 [18:58] <yarg> waukuas
#3509 [18:58] * Kealper says just reinstall it
#3509 [18:59] <almostroot> Kealper: Both the server and the JVM have been.
#3510 [18:59] <Kealper> oh my
#3511 [18:59] * Kealper suggests installing windows
#3511 [18:59] <almostroot> jonno11: Type in free -m
#3512 [18:59] <almostroot> jonno11: and tell me the amount of meory that is free.
#3513 [18:59] <Product> Ok almostroot.
#3514 [18:59] <almostroot> Kealper: You're evil.
#3515 [18:59] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#3516 [19:00] <Kealper> almostroot: it's horrible, but it'd probably work :P
#3517 [19:00] <almostroot> Product: Use /msg almostroot
#3518 [19:00] <Product> I'am trying to PM you.
#3519 [19:00] <Product> Oh ok :)
#3520 [19:00] <Product> THANKS
#3521 [19:00] <Product> Thanks *
#3522 [19:00] <Kealper> ok so disregard this link http://pastebin.com/jNdCR5hY because i'm using it to test something with AuBot that i'm working on
#3523 [19:01] * Kealper looks at his watch
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#3524 [19:01] <Kealper> hmm....
#3525 [19:01] <Kealper> aubot...what was that last url's title that you seen?
#3526 [19:01] <Kealper> hmm.....
#3527 [19:01] <eliteblade46> I just have a quick question
#3528 [19:02] <slimer> i dont nkow how to make a server online
#3529 [19:02] <eliteblade46> is there an "end" to the game?
#3530 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> eliteblade46 - Nope
#3531 [19:02] <Kealper> eliteblade46: nope
#3532 [19:02] <eliteblade46> is there a point in the game that it starts to act kinda strange?
#3533 [19:02] <Kealper> eliteblade46: oh...that sort of end
#3534 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> ‘kinda strange’?
#3535 [19:02] <slimer> i dont nkow how to make a online server
#3536 [19:03] <Kealper> eliteblade46: yes, but it is so far out that you won't be able to reach it without cheating something major
#3537 [19:03] <eliteblade46> like the walls aren't there
#3538 [19:03] <eliteblade46> being able to walk through walls and being attacked through walls
#3539 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> slimer - You download the server software from the minecraft.net website, and set up your network to allow traffic through
#3540 [19:03] <Kealper> eliteblade46: like if you get far enough out, you won't even be able to walk, stuff is completely screwed, etc
#3541 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> slimer - If you want specifics, you’ll need to tell us what issue you have problems with
#3542 [19:04] <eliteblade46> hmmm... ok
#3543 [19:04] <eliteblade46> is that something they're going to fix eventually?
#3544 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Probably not
#3545 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Has to do with rounding errors when you’re dealing with numbers that large
#3546 [19:05] <slimer> how can i talke to the creater and give him some sejestions for a update
#3547 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> slimer - www.getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#3548 [19:06] <Kealper> AuBot: URL TITLE GET!
#3549 [19:06] <Kealper> :<
#3550 [19:06] <jonno11> free: 1879
#3551 [19:07] <jonno11> almostroot: I have: 1879 free
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#3553 [19:07] <eliteblade46> so when it starts to act wonky, is my only option to start a new world or something?
#3554 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Could you define “act wonky”?
#3555 [19:08] <Kealper> eliteblade46: or go back to the spawn.....were you running in a straight line for like 3 weeks?
#3556 [19:08] <eliteblade46> see through walls, fall through the floor, stuff like that
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#3558 [19:08] <eliteblade46> no, no running in a straight line
#3559 [19:09] <Kealper> then just find the nearest way to die and go back to spawn, and don't go out that far again
#3560 [19:10] <Kealper> although i am having a hard time believing that you made your way out there without using some sort of mod/hack and without running in a straight line
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#3562 [19:10] <eliteblade46> it's my son who is playing... he said he hasn't gone anywhere, he's been in the map the whole time
#3563 [19:11] <eliteblade46> believe what you want but he hasn't cheated
#3564 [19:11] <Kealper> press F3 in there and tell me the X, Y, and Z
#3565 [19:11] <eliteblade46> I'm just looking for some help for him. He just wants to know if there's something that can be done
#3566 [19:11] <Kealper> because that shouldn't be doing that unless you are extremely far out
#3567 [19:12] <eliteblade46> ok... hang on.. he's gonna turn the game on and get that answer for you
#3568 [19:12] <slimer> how can i sejest stuff to the creater
#3569 [19:12] <Kealper> slimer: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#3570 [19:14] <ric> When I try to play alpha my internet goes down and Minecraft won't run. Will it do that if I buy Beta?
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#3572 [19:14] <Chites> Hey. Does anyone know how to place blocks in Classic with a mac? My nephews are over and want to play it, but my dad's mac only has one mouse button.
#3573 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Classic is browser only. If you do not have internet access, then you won’t be able to play it.
#3574 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Beta is different, once you log in once, the files are downloaded locally to your computer and you can play it without an internet connection
#3575 [19:15] <Chites> ...Er...not what I was asking.
#3576 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> That wasn’t directed at you Chites
#3577 [19:15] <eliteblade46> when he presses F3 the screen slowly starts to turn into a huge red bar so he can't see any numbers
#3578 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Chites - Try holding down the apple key when you press the mouse button
#3579 [19:16] <Chites> I'll try that. Thanks.
#3580 [19:16] <ric> Alright, thanks.
#3581 [19:16] <eliteblade46> n/m... it's not doing it any more..
#3582 [19:16] <eliteblade46> maybe he just needed to restart the game or something
#3583 [19:16] <eliteblade46> thanks for your help anyway.
#3584 [19:17] <eliteblade46> He just didn't wanna lose all his progress to some sort of error
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#3587 [19:18] <Chites> It didn't work. But we did figure it out.
#3588 [19:18] <Chites> To place blocks on a Mac, just hold ctrl while clicking. Thanks for the inspiration, Grey. x:
#3589 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Ah sorry, not a mac person
#3590 [19:18] <Chites> Nor am I. I hate that my dad uses a mac mini .-.
#3591 [19:18] <[z]> Or get a mouse with more than one button?
#3592 [19:18] <ric> Considering I do have internet connection, and it does go down when I try and play classic mode, why would that be? Just wondering.
#3593 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> ric - Because classic requires an internet connection, that’s just how it was coded
#3594 [19:20] <ric> Okay, thanks. Just had to make sure.
#3595 [19:23] <Kealper> http://pastebin.com/jNdCR5hY
#3596 [19:23] <Kealper> aubot...stop being derp
#3597 [19:26] <Kealper> wow, more like me stop being derp....generally helps when you uncomment the thing you're trying to test before compiling
#3598 [19:26] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#3599 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Hah!
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#3601 [19:27] <Kealper> ok so http://pastebin.com/jNdCR5hY random pastebin link that it should tell me has the signature of an HD texture pack crash
#3602 [19:27] <mib_z0pn1b> i need help
#3603 [19:27] <Kealper> ಠ_ಠ
#3604 [19:27] <Kealper> mib_z0pn1b: care to elaborate?
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#3606 [19:27] <mib_z0pn1b> i have windows 7 64 bit and when i click on mindcraft and doesnt load at all
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#3608 [19:28] <Kealper> do you have java installed?
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#3610 [19:28] <mib_bnsl8p> chris
#3611 [19:28] <mib_bnsl8p> hello
#3612 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> ‘lo
#3613 [19:28] <mib_z0pn1b> i uninstalled it of my computer and reinstalled it and it still doesnt work
#3614 [19:28] <mib_bnsl8p> When i run the game it closes every 1 minute
#3615 [19:29] <Kealper> mib_z0pn1b: You are currently using the nick "mib_z0pn1b". I highly suggest changing it to something specific by saying "/nick (newname)" replacing (newname) with the name you want to use. This makes it easier for us to help you. Thanks!
#3616 [19:29] <mib_bnsl8p> how
#3617 [19:29] <Kealper> mib_bnsl8p: You are currently using the nick "mib_bnsl8p". I highly suggest changing it to something specific by saying "/nick (newname)" replacing (newname) with the name you want to use. This makes it easier for us to help you. Thanks!
#3618 [19:30] <colan> changed it
#3619 [19:30] <mib_bnsl8p> how so i change it?
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#3621 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> /nick newnickhere
#3622 [19:30] <Kealper> colan: are you sure you uninstalled it all correctly?
#3623 [19:30] <mib_bnsl8p> hi
#3624 [19:31] <mib_bnsl8p> hi
#3625 [19:31] <TheNytangel> Hi
#3626 [19:31] <TheNytangel> Hi
#3627 [19:31] <Kealper> colan: it's preferred that help stays in this channel, not in private
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#3629 [19:31] <colan> alright
#3630 [19:32] <mib_ouce04> where do i go to update my video card drivers
#3631 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> depends on what video card you have
#3632 [19:32] <colan> well i have everything installed correctly and it wont load the web client or the downloaded client
#3633 [19:32] <TheNytangel> Kealper, aperture.esper.net?
#3634 [19:32] <colan> i deleted my bin in app data and nothing worked
#3635 [19:32] <Kealper> colan: make sure you have completely uninstalled all versions of Java from your computer before reinstalling it
#3636 [19:32] <TheNytangel> colan, delete all but the saves folder
#3637 [19:32] <Kealper> TheNytangel: wut?
#3638 [19:33] <TheNytangel> colan, also, don't listen to me
#3639 [19:33] <TheNytangel> Kealper, I did whois on you
#3640 [19:33] <Product> Almostroot
#3641 [19:33] <Product> You got dissconected, I guess.
#3642 [19:33] <Kealper> TheNytangel: and?
#3643 [19:33] <mib_ouce04> i know but where go to check your video card drivers and update them
#3644 [19:33] <colan> i uninstalled the 64bit and the 32bit i had now i just have the 32
#3645 [19:33] <TheNytangel> Kealper, it said that
#3646 [19:34] <mib_bnsl8p> when i run the game it closes every 1 minute
#3647 [19:34] <Kealper> TheNytangel: that's the leaf server i've on in the irc network
#3648 [19:34] <Product> You've lost internet ?
#3649 [19:34] <Kealper> i'm*
#3650 [19:34] <TheNytangel> I would have never guessed..
#3651 [19:34] <Product> almostroot: You there bro ?
#3652 [19:34] <mib_bnsl8p> hi
#3653 [19:34] <TheNytangel> I'm da bro :D
#3654 [19:34] <mib_bnsl8p> hello
#3655 [19:35] <Product> Your almostroot ?
#3656 [19:35] <TheNytangel> mib_bnsl8p, just ask
#3657 [19:35] <Kealper> mib_bnsl8p: turn down your graphics settings
#3658 [19:35] <TheNytangel> No, where did you get that idea?
#3659 [19:35] <Kealper> mib_bnsl8p: ingame
#3660 [19:35] <Product> You said.
#3661 [19:35] <Kealper> Product: almostroot is almostroot
#3662 [19:35] <TheNytangel> I said I'm da bro
#3663 [19:35] <Product> I guess almostroot lost internet for seconds.
#3664 [19:35] <Kealper> Product: if he isn't answering you by now, he's probably busy or gone
#3665 [19:35] <mib_bnsl8p> umm when i run the game it closes every minute
#3666 [19:36] <Product> Yeah, he was on TeamViewer with me.
#3667 [19:36] <Kealper> oh
#3668 [19:36] <TheNytangel> ?? win/reinst
#3669 [19:36] <colan> i have tried everything i could for 2 hours now, i researched everythign and nothing will work
#3670 [19:36] <Product> Randomly dissconected.
#3671 [19:36] <mib_bnsl8p> umm when i run the game it closes every minute
#3672 [19:36] <Kealper> mib_bnsl8p: go in to the game.....turn down all the graphics options
#3673 [19:36] <TheNytangel> mib_bnsl8p, we heard you
#3674 [19:36] <Kealper> mib_bnsl8p: if you repeat that again i'm kickbanning you
#3675 [19:38] <TheNytangel> Kealper, do/did you hate homework?
#3676 [19:38] <Product> Looks like he lost internet connection, I'll wait for him. Thanks guys.
#3677 [19:38] <Kealper> TheNytangel: didn't everyone?
#3678 [19:38] <TheNytangel> Not nerds..
#3679 [19:39] <Kealper> ok so do not click this link that i'm about to say http://pastebin.com/jNdCR5hY because it's just a test
#3680 [19:39] * almostroot ain't no fool.
#3680 [19:39] <mib_bnsl8p> k
#3681 [19:39] <Product> 0.0 Who said that.
#3682 [19:39] <almostroot> Product: My laptop battery died. I'm back.
#3683 [19:39] <Product> Oh :)
#3684 [19:39] <Product> I guessed right.
#3685 [19:40] <Product> Welcome back.
#3686 [19:40] <mib_bnsl8p> I turned down all the graphic settings but it still closes every 1 minute
#3687 [19:40] <Product> TeamViewer info is the same, or you need them again ?
#3688 [19:40] <almostroot> Product: Nope.
#3689 [19:40] <almostroot> Just need to wait for it to quit crashing.
#3690 [19:40] <Product> Ok :)
#3691 [19:40] <mib_bnsl8p> it has been crashing for a month
#3692 [19:41] <Kealper> RAWR http://pastebin.com/jNdCR5hY hopefully it actually works this time
#3693 [19:41] <mib_bnsl8p> every 1 minute
#3694 [19:41] <Kealper> i give up, AuBot wins
#3695 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Mission Failed.
#3696 [19:41] <mib_bnsl8p> what?
#3697 [19:41] <Kealper> i'll have to poke at stuff a lot inside a different channel, don't want to spam this up too much right now
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#3701 [19:43] <mib_bnsl8p> the game closes every 1 minute and someone told me to turn all the graphic settings down but it still doesen't work
#3702 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - When it crashes, does it give you any error reports? Any files that start with hs_err_pid?
#3703 [19:44] <mib_bnsl8p> no it just dissipears
#3704 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Could you check the place where you have the minecraft launcher, do you see any files named hs_err_pid?
#3705 [19:44] <mikinator5> i just bought minecraft and whether i use browser or the download, i cant enter multiplayer
#3706 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> mikinator5 - Try the server: s.nerd.nu
#3707 [19:44] <mib_bnsl8p> yes
#3708 [19:45] <mib_bnsl8p> there is a hs_error_pid
#3709 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Great, those are error reports that’ll tell us what the problem is. Could you please open one of them up, copy the contents of it, and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#3710 [19:45] <mikinator5> it works
#3711 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URl to it
#3712 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> mikinator5 - Then the servers you’ve tried, are either down, or nonfunctioning
#3713 [19:45] <mikinator5> ive tried top servers and local host and everyting
#3714 [19:46] <mib_bnsl8p> all the files on my desktop start with that when i turn my cpu on
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#3716 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Great, those are error reports that’ll tell us what the problem is. Could you please open one of them up, copy the contents of it, and paste it at www.pastebin.com
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#3718 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URl to it
#3719 [19:46] <mib_bnsl8p> what?
#3720 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Great, those are error reports that’ll tell us what the problem is. Could you please open one of them up, copy the contents of it, and paste it at www.pastebin.com - Then give us the address to it after you press the submit button?
#3721 [19:47] <dancer> hi evert time i play the downloaded version of minecraft and i try to open my inventory it says saving chunks
#3722 [19:47] <mib_bnsl8p> they won't open up
#3723 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> dancer - Try a new world, if it works, then that world is probably corrupted
#3724 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Could you open them in a text editor?
#3725 [19:48] <almostroot> Does Classic server use the same port as Beta?
#3726 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3727 [19:48] <dancer> okay because i was using the too many items mod which gives you endless supplies then i deleted the mod so i guess this is what happens
#3728 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that’ll happen with mods
#3729 [19:49] <dancer> alright thanks
#3730 [19:49] <mib_bnsl8p> i can't do anything with the files
#3731 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - What operating system are you on? Windows? Mac? Linux?
#3732 [19:49] <mib_bnsl8p> windows
#3733 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu -> programs -> accessories -> open up notepad
#3734 [19:50] <AG_Scott> GreyVulpine: I try to finish up the site for mcpaste today. Can I bring it here when it is complete?
#3735 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Then click and drag the hs_err_pid file over into notepad
#3736 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> AG_Scott - Sure
#3737 [19:50] <AG_Scott> It has anti-spam built in as well.
#3738 [19:50] <AG_Scott> I'll tell you elsewhere.
#3739 [19:51] <mib_bnsl8p> it soesent work
#3740 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> What doesn’t work?
#3741 [19:51] <mib_bnsl8p> doesent
#3742 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> You can’t open up notepad? Dragging the file over doesn’t work?
#3743 [19:51] <mib_bnsl8p> dragging the file into notepad
#3744 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> What does it say?
#3745 [19:52] <mib_bnsl8p> nothing
#3746 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure the file is named hs_err_pid, with a bunch of numbers after it?
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#3748 [19:52] <eightbitben> :)
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#3750 [19:53] <mib_bnsl8p> yes I went to view by type and all the files on my desktop turned back
#3751 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Could you delete all the hs_err_pid files, then launch minecraft again. When it closes on you again, it’ll create a new hs_err_pid file
#3752 [19:54] <shmoo> every time i've tried to play Minecraft all day it has been showing me the "Minecraft has crashed because it has encountered a problem." message, it won't allow me to click my mouse cursor in the message space so i cant copy it, what should i do?
#3753 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Please then try opening that in notepad
#3754 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Did you mod minecraft in any way?
#3755 [19:55] <shmoo> no i just use texture packs
#3756 [19:55] <shmoo> idk how to use mods for it
#3757 [19:55] <shmoo> so i dont try
#3758 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> standard def, or HD texture packs?
#3759 [19:55] <shmoo> standard
#3760 [19:55] <mib_bnsl8p> all the files on my computer turn to hs_err_pid i don't want to delete everything on my computer
#3761 [19:55] <shmoo> i tried one hd but i deleted it
#3762 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - You using the browser, or downloaded client?
#3763 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - All.. the files?
#3764 [19:55] <shmoo> browser
#3765 [19:56] <mib_bnsl8p> all on my desktop
#3766 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Could you try the downloaded client instead, it’ll allow you to copy the contents of the error log when it does crash
#3767 [19:56] <shmoo> okay i will try it
#3768 [19:56] <Product> Hey
#3769 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Once you are able to copy the error, please go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste the error then, return with the address to the pastebin
#3770 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - That’s.. not right
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#3772 [19:57] <mib_bnsl8p> I don't know why it doesen't work it works with other computers
#3773 [19:58] <mib_bnsl8p> but it closes every 1 minute
#3774 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Without knowing what’s going on with your computer, I wouldn’t know where to start
#3775 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - You’re telling me that every file on your desktop is hs_err_pid, that shouldn’t happen
#3776 [19:58] <mib_bnsl8p> when i turn my computer on
#3777 [19:59] <mib_bnsl8p> but when i change to sort by type
#3778 [19:59] <mib_bnsl8p> it all goes back to normal
#3779 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Could you upload a screenshot to imgur.com
#3780 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the address to the screenshot?
#3781 [19:59] <shmoo> i downloaded the client and when i try to use it it just shows me a black screen after the mojang logo goes away, and it stays on the black screen....
#3782 [20:00] <mib_bnsl8p> how do i take a screen shot
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#3784 [20:00] <shmoo> f2
#3785 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Press the prnt scrn button on your keyboard
#3786 [20:00] <shmoo> in game press f2 to take a screenshot
#3787 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Not in game right now
#3788 [20:01] <shmoo> oh
#3789 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - After pressing the prnt scrn button on the keyboard, go open paint via your programs -> accessories folder
#3790 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> Welcome back, VoxelHead!
#3791 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Then ctrl+V to paste the screenshot in paint.
#3792 [20:01] <mib_bnsl8p> I would have to restart the computer to get everything back to hs_err_pid
#3793 [20:01] <shmoo> but yah i tried to download the client like you said, but this time it didn't even show me the crash message
#3794 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> “get everything back to hs_err_pid”?
#3795 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Did it work before this?
#3796 [20:02] <shmoo> yes it just started crashing today
#3797 [20:02] <mib_bnsl8p> yes when i go to sort by type it goes back tonormal
#3798 [20:02] <VoxelHead> Yeah, power outages suck.
#3799 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar/run command, type in: %appdata%
#3800 [20:02] <shmoo> This is the first time it has ever given me a "crashed" message
#3801 [20:02] <shmoo> ok then what?
#3802 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Find the .minecraft folder, delete everything inside except for the saves folder, then restart minecraft
#3803 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - I’m going to need to see a screenshot of this.
#3804 [20:04] <mib_bnsl8p> how do i get a screen shot???
#3805 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the prnt scrn button on your keyboard? Upper right corner of the keyboard?
#3806 [20:04] <mib_bnsl8p> this a laptop no i don't see it
#3807 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> laptops have that button as well, look for it
#3808 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> “Prnt Scrn”
#3809 [20:05] <titegtnodI> Or PrtSc
#3810 [20:05] <titegtnodI> (Mine's PrtSc)
#3811 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Or that.
#3812 [20:05] <mib_bnsl8p> yes
#3813 [20:05] <mib_bnsl8p> i found it
#3814 [20:05] <shmoo> will this delete my worlds?
#3815 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Press it once
#3816 [20:05] <mib_bnsl8p> i did
#3817 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> shmoo - Not if you don’t delete the saves folder
#3818 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Now, go to your start menu.
#3819 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Open up the programs menu, then go to accessories
#3820 [20:06] <mib_bnsl8p> k
#3821 [20:06] <shmoo> ok
#3822 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Look for the program called “Paint”
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#3824 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Got paint open?
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#3826 [20:07] <mib_bnsl8p> k
#3827 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Go up to the toolbar and click on Edit, then Paste
#3828 [20:07] <mib_bnsl8p> oh cool
#3829 [20:07] <shmoo> thank you :)
#3830 [20:07] <shmoo> i got it
#3831 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Save that file somewhere, where you can get to it mib_bnsl8p
#3832 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Go to http://www.imgur.com - Upload the file you just saved to there, and it’ll give you an address to share that screenshot/picture with others
#3833 [20:08] <hoochie> I can't download the game - says I have to update video drivers which I did - still no dice
#3834 [20:08] <mib_bnsl8p> What?
#3835 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> hoochie - How did you update your video drivers?
#3836 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Save that file somewhere, where you can get to it
#3837 [20:09] <mib_bnsl8p> i did
#3838 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Open up a web browser, go to the address: http://www.imgur.com
#3839 [20:09] <hoochie> went on-line and checked to make sure had all updates
#3840 [20:09] <mib_bnsl8p> i did
#3841 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Click on Upload images -> computer
#3842 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Find the file you just saved from paint, upload it
#3843 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> hoochie - How did you “Go online”
#3844 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> hoochie - Did you use windows update or device manager to update your video drivers?
#3845 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> hoochie - If so, that’s the wrong way to update video drivers
#3846 [20:10] <hoochie> device manager
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#3848 [20:10] <hoochie> how do I do it/
#3849 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> hoochie - Could you please go back to your device manager, go to the display adapter, and tell me what is the name of the card there
#3850 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> hoochie - You’ll want to use either the computer manufacturer’s website, or the video card manufacturer’s website to update drivers
#3851 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Windows update will never have updated video drivers
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#3853 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Did you upload your screenshot to imgur.com?
#3854 [20:14] <mib_bnsl8p> it's not working
#3855 [20:14] <titegtnodI> Try lookpic.com
#3856 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - What exactly isn’t working?
#3857 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Does it not upload the picture?
#3858 [20:15] <mib_bnsl8p> yes i can't find the file and when i go to pictures it says cannot upload file
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#3860 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_bnsl8p - Could you go back to paint, and save the picture where you can find it
#3861 [20:16] <mib_bnsl8p> i did sevral times in different places
#3862 [20:16] <titegtnodI> mib_bnsl8p: Try lookpic.com another website could help
#3863 [20:16] <mib_bnsl8p> Why do i need to upload a picture again?
#3864 [20:16] <titegtnodI> It it's failing then it never uploaded in the first place ...
#3865 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> So that we have something at which to point whilst laughing.
#3866 [20:17] <hoochie> NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce430
#3867 [20:17] <titegtnodI> GreyVulpine: I'll just let you handle this
#3868 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> hoochie gpu/nvidia
#3869 [20:17] <VoxelHead> hoochie: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#3870 [20:17] <titegtnodI> Lmao
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#3872 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> I can’t do anything if I don’t understand the error that’s being thrown
#3873 [20:17] <mib_bnsl8p> it's just my desktop
#3874 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> I don’t understand why every file is named hs_err_pid... and can’t be opened via a text editor
#3875 [20:17] <mib_bnsl8p> it is normal now
#3876 [20:17] <fenster> i need help
#3877 [20:18] <titegtnodI> ?? ask
#3878 [20:18] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3879 [20:18] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3880 [20:18] <mib_bnsl8p> It does that when i start the computer
#3881 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> See, I don’t understand that statement
#3882 [20:19] <mib_bnsl8p> WHEN I START THE CPU ALL FILES SAY hs_err_pid but i right click and click sort by and than type and it goes back to normal
#3883 [20:20] <titegtnodI> you're juicing
#3884 [20:20] <[z]> So, you just have a load of error files on your desktop, and more files there than you can see at one time
#3885 [20:20] <[z]> So just go into windows explorer, find desktop there, and delete all the error files...
#3886 [20:21] <mib_bnsl8p> NO those are my icons on my desktop
#3887 [20:21] <mib_bnsl8p> i like those
#3888 [20:21] <titegtnodI> Lol
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#3890 [20:22] <[z]> You like.. The error files?
#3891 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Way beyond my capability to help..
#3892 [20:22] <mib_bnsl8p> MY icons say that
#3893 [20:22] <titegtnodI> We need xales
#3894 [20:23] <titegtnodI> He's endlessly patient
#3895 [20:23] <[z]> Probably you have other icons and error files in the same place. So, go into windows explorer, find desktop there, and see what is really going on
#3896 [20:23] * Kealper kicked mib_bnsl8p from #minecrafthelp (Reason: no, xales would have done this a long time ago)
#3897 [20:23] <titegtnodI> Lmao
#3898 [20:23] <[z]> heh
#3899 [20:24] <titegtnodI> I've /never/ seen someone asking for help get kicked
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#3901 [20:25] <eggy> that's a bit odd
#3902 [20:25] <Kealper> there is a certain level brain power required to recieve help in here, he didn't have it
#3903 [20:25] * Kealper twirls his magic @
#3903 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> I am.. very patient with people. I will explain things a few times if they don’t understand it.
#3904 [20:25] <titegtnodI> Lol
#3905 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> If I have to break down a large block of text into smaller steps, I’ll do it.
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#3907 [20:25] <[z]> That wasn't really minecraft-related anyway...
#3908 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> But that’s just bordering on stupid
#3909 [20:26] <titegtnodI> He shouldn't be on a computer
#3910 [20:26] <figaro> i downloaded minecraft4kids down loaded the fix but minecraft just crashed!!!
#3911 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> ??> figaro win/reinst
#3912 [20:27] <VoxelHead> figaro: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3913 [20:27] <VoxelHead> figaro: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3914 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> I missed you vox..
#3915 [20:27] * GreyVulpine hugs VoxelHead
#3915 [20:27] <figaro> kk
#3916 [20:27] <EntityReborn_> MineCraft MP, anyone?
#3917 [20:27] <EntityReborn_> mc1.entityreborn.co.cc
#3918 [20:27] * GreyVulpine coughs
#3918 [20:27] * Kealper coughs
#3918 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> You know the rule about advertising here...
#3919 [20:28] * Kealper stabs GreyVulpine
#3919 [20:28] <EntityReborn_> I do?
#3920 [20:28] <EntityReborn_> Im sorry, wasn't aware that was frowed upon.
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#3922 [20:28] <titegtnodI> try #smp
#3923 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Please use #smp to advertise servers.
#3924 [20:28] <EntityReborn_> k
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#3927 [20:29] <bernard> hello
#3928 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> ‘lo
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#3931 [20:30] <bernard> it said game was sent to someone else
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#3934 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
#3935 [20:31] <titegtnodI> I just lost the game > . <
#3936 [20:32] <bernard> it said code Game gave to and some letters & #
#3937 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> What said? Your profile page?
#3938 [20:32] <bernard> yes
#3939 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Then your gift code was redeemed by that person
#3940 [20:33] <bernard> so now what
#3941 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Do you know that person that you gave the gift code to?
#3942 [20:34] <bernard> I did not give it to anyone
#3943 [20:34] <bernard> no I dont know them
#3944 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> then it was redeemed by somebody who had access to that gift code
#3945 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> When did you purchase the gift code?
#3946 [20:35] <bernard> month ago
#3947 [20:35] <bernard> i was never able to sign in until tonight
#3948 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Try doing a chargeback through your credit card, or calling up the bank that you purchased it from to request a chargeback
#3949 [20:36] * Vector shoots VoxelHead
#3949 [20:36] <bernard> april 30th to be exact
#3950 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Why did you buy a gift code without using it?
#3951 [20:36] <[z]> And how did you, if you weren't able to sign in?
#3952 [20:36] <bernard> my wife and daughter did
#3953 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Then, perhaps it was redeemed by your wife or daughter?
#3954 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Did you ask them?
#3955 [20:37] <reedlepee> Question: I tried to set up a minecraft server on my own, and I am able to log in, but only on my account and my friend from across town can't log onto my server IP address from his computer. Did I only set up a LAN server? :(
#3956 [20:37] <bernard> trying with her name
#3957 [20:38] <bernard> yes its my daughters
#3958 [20:38] <bernard> bought for her
#3959 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - Look up port forwarding
#3960 [20:40] <reedlepee> I have my port forwarding set up fine; I tested it, and I'm able to log in on separate computers on my network, but not on a different one
#3961 [20:41] <EntityReborn_> reedlepee, what is the ip of the server?
#3962 [20:41] <reedlepee> 192.168.1.3
#3963 [20:41] <EntityReborn_> ...
#3964 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> that's in internal, nonroutable IP addreaa
#3965 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - Say I wanted to connect to you from the outside. What IP address do you give me?
#3966 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> ..address
#3967 [20:41] <EntityReborn_> ^ this
#3968 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> so of course it would work on the LAN, but not outside of it.
#3969 [20:42] <reedlepee> so I would be able to change the port forwarding IP to whatever I wanted then?
#3970 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> ?? ip/external
#3971 [20:42] <VoxelHead> ip/external: Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#3972 [20:42] <reedlepee> as long as it isn't my actual IP
#3973 [20:42] <EntityReborn_> reedlepee, sounds to me like your IP forwarding is messed
#3974 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> forward your external IP to your internal one, and everything will be ducky
#3975 [20:42] <EntityReborn_> cmyip.com etc
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#3977 [20:43] <EntityReborn_> reedlepee, starting with the device that provides internet from your home, you need to chain-forward port 25565 to the server.
#3978 [20:43] <EntityReborn_> chain-forward meaning if you have say three routers, one must point to the next
#3979 [20:44] <Guest33564> hello
#3980 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Oi..
#3981 [20:44] <reedlepee> hmm says server IP MUST be a LAN IP wtf
#3982 [20:44] <calatalee> When i run minecraft, it will only run for around a minute and shuts down, then i have to start it back up and it does the same thing.
#3983 [20:44] <EntityReborn_> GreyVulpine, I have 2 chained routers :P
#3984 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> EntityReborn_ - I know.
#3985 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> EntityReborn_ - I used to have the same setup
#3986 [20:44] <Guest33564> how do i get java for minecraft if i already have java on my comp.?
#3987 [20:44] <EntityReborn_> GreyVulpine, how did you know I had chained routers !!!??? /rage
#3988 [20:45] <EntityReborn_> :P
#3989 [20:45] * GreyVulpine had at one point, modem -> router -> laptop -> router -> main computer
#3989 [20:45] <EntityReborn_> Hah
#3990 [20:45] <EntityReborn_> Ive done something similar
#3991 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Needless to say, I couldn’t run a server without one node in that chain being the weak link..
#3992 [20:46] <reedlepee> it's chained forwarded to 25565, but when I put in my internal IP address as the server it says I need a LAN IP :?
#3993 [20:46] <EntityReborn_> I have afriend who did: wireless > main computer > router >wireless
#3994 [20:46] <EntityReborn_> s/did/soes/
#3995 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes, you would need to input the internal ip address of your computer
#3996 [20:46] <EntityReborn_> -_-
#3997 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Not the external
#3998 [20:47] <EntityReborn_> reedlepee, it's the external IP you need to give to people outside of your house
#3999 [20:47] <EntityReborn_> for those inside, the internal IP
#4000 [20:47] <EntityReborn_> outside being defined as in not connected to your network.
#4001 [20:48] <reedlepee> Yes but it says that on my netgear router configuration page that I need a LAN IP when I put in my internal IP
#4002 [20:48] <EntityReborn_> right
#4003 [20:48] <EntityReborn_> because that IP you are putting in needs to be the IP of the computer with the server
#4004 [20:49] <reedlepee> which is what I'm putting in but it says its invalid
#4005 [20:49] <EntityReborn_> 192.168.1.3 in your case.
#4006 [20:49] <reedlepee> the 192.168.1.3 works but only people inside my network can connect to it
#4007 [20:49] <EntityReborn_> of course.
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#4009 [20:50] <reedlepee> so why can't my actual IPv4 address be used :/
#4010 [20:50] <EntityReborn_> it can, you are most likely messing something up.
#4011 [20:50] <EntityReborn_> Possibly not on the right router page, etc
#4012 [20:50] <reedlepee> I typed it in EXACTLY how the IP chicken says it is :(
#4013 [20:51] <newbie|2> hello
#4014 [20:51] <EntityReborn_> uh, no.
#4015 [20:51] <EntityReborn_> reedlepee, what router model is it?
#4016 [20:51] <sgteatlead241> i have a question
#4017 [20:51] <reedlepee> Netgear WPN824v2
#4018 [20:51] <EntityReborn_> sgteatlead241, ask away
#4019 [20:51] <reedlepee> I will be afk for about an hour :(
#4020 [20:52] <sgteatlead241> i just baught minecraft and it says i am still not premium when i try to log in on the launcher it still says user account not premium why?????
#4021 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> ??> sgteatlead241 payment
#4022 [20:52] <VoxelHead> sgteatlead241: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
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#4024 [20:52] <VoxelHead> sgteatlead241: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#4025 [20:53] <sgteatlead241> thank you!
#4026 [20:53] <sgteatlead241> be right back
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#4028 [20:54] <mib_qufdax> when i try to start the game it just says done loading and doesnt do anything
#4029 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_qufdax win/reinst
#4030 [20:54] <VoxelHead> mib_qufdax: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4031 [20:54] <frogonia> mine just turns to a black screen
#4032 [20:54] <VoxelHead> mib_qufdax: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4033 [20:54] <EntityReborn_> reedlepee, http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WPN824v2/Minecraft_Server.htm
#4034 [20:55] <EntityReborn_> sgteatlead241, what is your minecraft username?
#4035 [20:55] <sgteatlead241> sgteatlead
#4036 [20:55] <EntityReborn_> !paid sgteatlead
#4037 [20:55] <sgteatlead241> why?
#4038 [20:55] <EntityReborn_> Your payment hasn't been processed yet.
#4039 [20:55] <sgteatlead241> oh ok
#4040 [20:56] <frogonia> whenever i try to play minecraft anywhere it just goes to a black screen
#4041 [20:56] <EntityReborn_> frogonia, have you modded your minecraft.jar?
#4042 [20:56] <frogonia> Ive tried
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#4044 [20:56] <EntityReborn_> if so, did you delete META-INF?
#4045 [20:56] <sgteatlead241> force update
#4046 [20:56] <EntityReborn_> ^
#4047 [20:57] <frogonia> No, I don't think so
#4048 [20:57] <frogonia> should I check?
#4049 [20:57] <EntityReborn_> try deleting the version file, and updating
#4050 [20:57] <frogonia> version file?
#4051 [20:57] <sgteatlead241> thank you for your help
#4052 [20:57] <EntityReborn_> .minecraft\bin\version
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#4054 [20:57] <EntityReborn_> er,
#4055 [20:58] <EntityReborn_> %APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\version
#4056 [20:58] <corvuszero> i have a problem with my world saved... minecraft doesn't find them when i try to run it. can anyone assist?
#4057 [20:58] <EntityReborn_> that will force an update.
#4058 [20:58] <EntityReborn_> corvuszero, go to %APPDATA%\.minecraft\saves
#4059 [20:58] <EntityReborn_> do you see any files/folders?
#4060 [20:58] <mib_qufdax> thank you
#4061 [20:59] <corvuszero> yes
#4062 [20:59] <corvuszero> both of my worlds
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#4064 [20:59] <corvuszero> when i open one of them, there are 2 folders within, and 3 files
#4065 [20:59] <frogonia> Not yet
#4066 [20:59] <EntityReborn_> Did you mess around with any files there? or use any external editor, etc?
#4067 [20:59] <EntityReborn_> frogonia, sorry?
#4068 [21:00] <frogonia> No
#4069 [21:00] <EntityReborn_> I mean, I don't understand you.
#4070 [21:00] <corvuszero> the only thing i have done recently is use tectonics mapper, but that was 2 days ago and minecraft was running fine yesterday
#4071 [21:00] <EntityReborn_> corvuszero, have you installed any mods?
#4072 [21:00] <corvuszero> no. the only tihng i have done is add a texture pack.
#4073 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> corvuszero - Did minecraft shut off suddenly while you had those worlds loaded? Perhaps a power outage?
#4074 [21:00] <EntityReborn_> try backing up your saves file, and force updating MineCraft
#4075 [21:00] <EntityReborn_> GreyVulpine, ++
#4076 [21:01] <EntityReborn_> Didn't think of that.
#4077 [21:01] <EntityReborn_> So, what do people think of the 1.7 update coming?
#4078 [21:01] <sgteatlead241> who is AUBOT
#4079 [21:01] <corvuszero> greyvulpine: only one of the worlds was loaded, and my computer overheated and died, but its happened before and nto been an issue.. also, only one world was loaded, btu both are gone
#4080 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> EntityReborn_ - Can’t wait.
#4081 [21:01] <DopeGhoti> why do you ask, sgteatlead241?
#4082 [21:02] <sgteatlead241> because he/she/it said that i have not paid for minecraft whaen i did
#4083 [21:02] <EntityReborn_> sgteatlead241, AuBot is a Irc bOT
#4084 [21:02] <EntityReborn_> AN*
#4085 [21:02] <sgteatlead241> ohhh ok
#4086 [21:02] <EntityReborn_> sgteatlead241, as I said, your payment hasn't been processed yet.
#4087 [21:02] <EntityReborn_> Give it a few hours, as the bot mentioned.
#4088 [21:02] <EntityReborn_> GreyVulpine, Pistons ftw
#4089 [21:02] <sgteatlead241> ok
#4090 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> corvuszero - Having a computer shut off unexpectedly while a minecraft world is loaded, is one of the primary reasons why worlds don’t show up anymore in the list. The world has been corrupted
#4091 [21:03] <sgteatlead241> lol they are supposedly easier to break
#4092 [21:03] <corvuszero> greyvulpine: is there any way to recover it?
#4093 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> corvuszero - A program that has helped many people, is MCedit, a map editor
#4094 [21:03] <EntityReborn_> That program is not for the light of heart!
#4095 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> corvuszero - try downloading MCedit, opening the world in it, pressing Ctrl-S to save it, then closing it
#4096 [21:03] <frogonia> Would the '&APPDATA&' be located in the users file
#4097 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> It’ll work again
#4098 [21:04] <frogonia> %appdata% i MEAN
#4099 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> '%AppData%', not '&AppData&'.
#4100 [21:04] <EntityReborn_> frogonia, it's %APPDATA%
#4101 [21:04] <EntityReborn_> :P
#4102 [21:04] <corvuszero> alright, thank y ou greyvulpine,
#4103 [21:04] <sgteatlead241> no you would press the windows key and the r button at the same time and type it in
#4104 [21:04] <EntityReborn_> frogonia, do WinKey+R, then type %APPDATA% in the box
#4105 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> it's a shortcut for C:\Users\YourUserNameGoesHere\Application Data or C:\Documents and Settings\YourUsernameGoesHere\Application Data.
#4106 [21:04] <EntityReborn_> even better, type %APPDATA%\.minecraft, to go to the minecraft folder itself.
#4107 [21:05] <frogonia> Ok, i;m at the folder, now what do i do again?
#4108 [21:05] <EntityReborn_> frogonia, go to bin
#4109 [21:05] <EntityReborn_> then delete the version file there
#4110 [21:05] <frogonia> Done
#4111 [21:05] <EntityReborn_> then, run MineCraft and let it update
#4112 [21:06] * EntityReborn_ notes that there is a similar function in the launcher, always forgets about that
#4112 [21:06] <sgteatlead241> lol
#4113 [21:06] <frogonia> I have the same problem
#4114 [21:06] <frogonia> Not even an update screen appeared
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#4116 [21:07] <EntityReborn_> GreyVulpine, any idea how quickly bukkit will update to 1.7?
#4117 [21:07] <sgteatlead241> nope
#4118 [21:07] <EntityReborn_> frogonia, nothing at all?
#4119 [21:07] <frogonia> No, same thing happened before
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#4121 [21:08] <EntityReborn_> Describe it for me, please.
#4122 [21:08] <frogonia> Ok
#4123 [21:08] <EntityReborn_> My scrollback has vanished.
#4124 [21:09] <frogonia> I run the MineCraft Launcher, and enter my username and password, click login, and once it sees that i have logged in, it goes the loading page for a barely any time, then, *Black*
#4125 [21:10] <EntityReborn_> ok
#4126 [21:10] <EntityReborn_> WinKey + R, type in cmd press enter
#4127 [21:10] <EntityReborn_> black screen will show up
#4128 [21:10] <frogonia> Done
#4129 [21:10] <EntityReborn_> from there, *DRAG* your launcher into the black window, and it's path will appear after >
#4130 [21:10] <EntityReborn_> press enter, login, etc
#4131 [21:11] <EntityReborn_> once you get the black screen, copy any output to a pastebin, and paste us the resulting URL
#4132 [21:11] <EntityReborn_> GreyVulpine, ^ should possibly become a factoid -_-
#4133 [21:11] <EntityReborn_> if it isnt already.
#4134 [21:11] <EntityReborn_> frogonia, have you EVER had success running MineCraft?
#4135 [21:12] <frogonia> Yes
#4136 [21:12] <frogonia> Ok so run the game, and when it goes to a black screen, copy the URL from the command prompt?
#4137 [21:12] <EntityReborn_> No.
#4138 [21:13] <EntityReborn_> Rightclick, then click on Mark
#4139 [21:13] <EntityReborn_> select the whole screen, then hit enter
#4140 [21:13] <EntityReborn_> then go to a pastebin, and paste it there.
#4141 [21:13] <frogonia> AFTER the black screen?
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#4143 [21:13] <EntityReborn_> Yes
#4144 [21:14] <corvuszero> greyvulpine: i downloaded MCedit but i can't figure out how to... well... run it.
#4145 [21:14] <EntityReborn_> There should be some tidbits there about exception or something.
#4146 [21:14] <EntityReborn_> corvuszero, what was the url you downloaded it from?
#4147 [21:14] <EntityReborn_> iirc, there is a bin folder, with an exe there.
#4148 [21:14] <EntityReborn_> might be a .jar
#4149 [21:14] <corvuszero> i got ti from minecraft workbench
#4150 [21:15] <corvuszero> i opened the rar file, it gave me 3 zips and a docs folder
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#4153 [21:15] <corvuszero> the zips were mcedit-alpha52, mcchematic, and floating hell island schematic
#4154 [21:16] <prumpa24> can some one help me
#4155 [21:16] <EntityReborn_> Get it from http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/13807-mcedit-minecraft-world-editor-compatible-with-mc-beta-166/page__p__265023#entry265023
#4156 [21:16] <sgteatlead241> what do you neeed
#4157 [21:16] <corvuszero> alright thank you.
#4158 [21:16] <frogonia> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Juanita Hester>"C:\Users\Juanita Hester\Desktop\Minecraft.exe" C:\Users\Juanita Hester>
#4159 [21:16] <prumpa24> i just recently bought the game and the default texture pack makes everything invisible
#4160 [21:17] <EntityReborn_> frogonia, that is all?
#4161 [21:17] <frogonia> Yes
#4162 [21:17] <sgteatlead241> hmmmmmm
#4163 [21:17] <EntityReborn_> (You should have used pastebin :P)
#4164 [21:17] <EntityReborn_> frogonia, that is... strange.
#4165 [21:17] <corvuszero> @ frogonia on my computer everything was in hidden folders
#4166 [21:17] <corvuszero> i could not type in the names to get to them
#4167 [21:17] <corvuszero> i had to edit my system file administration properties
#4168 [21:17] <corvuszero> so make all hideen folders visible
#4169 [21:18] <sgteatlead241> prumpa umm i don't know on that one
#4170 [21:18] <sgteatlead241> did you try force updating
#4171 [21:18] <prumpa24> here is a link to a youtube video i made showing what its like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmkx-ayUNqA
#4172 [21:18] <frogonia> I will retry will pastebin, then
#4173 [21:18] <mib_117eth> What's wrong with mine is it updates all the files and stuff, then it turns black and closes. Maybe its because i tried 2 install mods and messed up. I made a new user but it still does that.
#4174 [21:18] <EntityReborn_> frogonia, go to %APPDATA%\.minecraft, copy the saves folder to your desktop, then up a folder, and then delete .minecraft entirely.
#4175 [21:19] <prumpa24> yea i updated and it still does it
#4176 [21:19] <EntityReborn_> after that, rerun your launcher.
#4177 [21:19] <frogonia> im not following
#4178 [21:19] <frogonia> what your saying
#4179 [21:19] <Product> Hey, almostroot is here ?
#4180 [21:19] <EntityReborn_> WinKey+R, "%APPDATA%"
#4181 [21:19] <EntityReborn_> double click .minecraft
#4182 [21:20] <EntityReborn_> drag "saves" folder to your desktop
#4183 [21:20] <EntityReborn_> Click the button to go up one folder
#4184 [21:20] <EntityReborn_> delete ".minecraft"
#4185 [21:20] <EntityReborn_> launch minecraft again
#4186 [21:20] <sgteatlead241> sorry i can't help you
#4187 [21:21] <Product> almostroot, are you there ? :)
#4188 [21:21] <frogonia> "Click the button to go up one folder" Where is this
#4189 [21:22] <EntityReborn_> In the windows explorer window, will look like a folder with a green arrow pointing either up or to the left
#4190 [21:22] <EntityReborn_> in the toolbar
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#4193 [21:22] <prumpa24> ok but thanks anyway
#4194 [21:25] <frogonia> im sure you hate me by now, EntityReborn, but still I cant find it
#4195 [21:25] <EntityReborn_> :P
#4196 [21:25] <EntityReborn_> ok, in the addressbar, you will see something that ends in .minecraft
#4197 [21:25] <EntityReborn_> just delete .minecraft, and hit enter
#4198 [21:25] <frogonia> Are you by any chance refereing to the 'back' arrrow?
#4199 [21:25] <EntityReborn_> sure
#4200 [21:26] <frogonia> i feel like an idiot
#4201 [21:26] <EntityReborn_> back does a different function, but will work for this.
#4202 [21:26] <EntityReborn_> don't
#4203 [21:26] <EntityReborn_> I'm not hatin' :)
#4204 [21:26] <frogonia> :)
#4205 [21:26] <frogonia> Ok done
#4206 [21:26] <EntityReborn_> ok, delete .minecrafrt
#4207 [21:26] <frogonia> done
#4208 [21:27] <EntityReborn_> relaunch minecraft from your exe file
#4209 [21:27] <EntityReborn_> you will need to enter your user and password again
#4210 [21:27] <frogonia> Downloading packages? it says
#4211 [21:27] <EntityReborn_> yup
#4212 [21:27] <EntityReborn_> making progress
#4213 [21:27] <frogonia> Oh
#4214 [21:28] <frogonia> Its the update screen
#4215 [21:28] <EntityReborn_> Yep
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#4217 [21:28] <frogonia> ok its up
#4218 [21:28] <EntityReborn_> ok
#4219 [21:28] <EntityReborn_> close it out
#4220 [21:28] <frogonia> but i have no worlds, is this when the saves folder comes back?
#4221 [21:28] <EntityReborn_> exactly
#4222 [21:29] <frogonia> just drag is back and overwrite?
#4223 [21:29] <EntityReborn_> yep
#4224 [21:29] <EntityReborn_> into the .minecraft folder.
#4225 [21:29] <frogonia> wow the first thing i got right today
#4226 [21:29] <frogonia> :P
#4227 [21:29] <sgteatlead241> lol
#4228 [21:29] <EntityReborn_> :P
#4229 [21:29] <frogonia> Ok
#4230 [21:30] <frogonia> it seems to be up
#4231 [21:30] <frogonia> Thank you so much and sorry for the trouble
#4232 [21:30] <EntityReborn_> Hey, no worries.
#4233 [21:30] <EntityReborn_> Glad that it worked out.
#4234 [21:30] <frogonia> Wow
#4235 [21:30] <frogonia> i see the pastebin now
#4236 [21:30] <EntityReborn_> ?
#4237 [21:31] <frogonia> all this time i was wondering what you were saying when you said use the pastebin
#4238 [21:31] <frogonia> i see it now
#4239 [21:31] <EntityReborn_> heh
#4240 [21:31] <frogonia> K, later
#4241 [21:31] <EntityReborn_> See ya
#4242 [21:31] <sgteatlead241> wow you are extremly patient and helpful!
#4243 [21:32] <EntityReborn_> I try :)
#4244 [21:32] <sgteatlead241> :)
#4245 [21:32] <EntityReborn_> Im glad [s]he didn't flip out and go all psycho
#4246 [21:32] <sgteatlead241> that would have been a mess
#4247 [21:33] <sgteatlead241> awww my account is not premium yet :P
#4248 [21:34] <sgteatlead241> aetherian are you there
#4249 [21:34] <EntityReborn_> One of these days I need to get my own account.
#4250 [21:35] * EntityReborn_ is using a buddies acct, has no money to get his own acct :( )
#4250 [21:35] <sgteatlead241> :(
#4251 [21:35] * SevFTW [SevFTW@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4252 [21:35] <EntityReborn_> And people aren't free spirited to buy me one :P
#4253 [21:35] * sneakyrat [sneakyrat@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4254 [21:36] <sgteatlead241> well i use my credit card but i have to ask my parents if i can use it
#4255 [21:36] <sgteatlead241> so i would buy you a account but i think they would say no
#4256 [21:37] <EntityReborn_> :P
#4257 [21:37] <sgteatlead241> and i woudn't have enough money
#4258 [21:38] <sgteatlead241> i only have 50 bucks on there and i already baught minecraft once and a game on steam and i have to pay 3 dollars a month and i coudn't pay my monthly fee and buy you a account so when i get more money on the card i will probably buy you one:)
#4259 [21:39] <sgteatlead241> i will get more money on it this saturday
#4260 [21:39] <sgteatlead241> ")
#4261 [21:39] <sgteatlead241> :)
#4262 [21:39] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :what sgteatlead241
#4263 [21:39] <EntityReborn_> Hehe
#4264 [21:40] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I'm here
#4265 [21:40] <sgteatlead241> hello aetherian
#4266 [21:40] <sgteatlead241> long time no see
#4267 [21:40] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I know, 'twas a happy time.
#4268 [21:40] <sgteatlead241> oh haha
#4269 [21:40] <sgteatlead241> so how have you been
#4270 [21:41] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I was doing just fine
#4271 [21:42] <sgteatlead241> why u got to be such a **** i am just trying to be nice
#4272 [21:42] <EntityReborn_> :P
#4273 [21:43] <sgteatlead241> so let's try this again how are you atherian?
#4274 [21:43] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :hmm
#4275 [21:43] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :didn't you mean to put five asterisks there?
#4276 [21:43] <sgteatlead241> no i ment 4
#4277 [21:44] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :ohh, you used a word such as "ment" to shorten down the word to four letters.
#4278 [21:44] <sgteatlead241> -_____________________--
#4279 [21:45] <sgteatlead241> aetherian you know my grammer and spelling is terrible
#4280 [21:45] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I do know that
#4281 [21:45] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :you are correct
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#4283 [21:45] <sgteatlead241> so why do you still pester me about it
#4284 [21:45] <Kelvin> can someone help me
#4285 [21:46] <almostroot> Kelvin: What's up?
#4286 [21:46] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :maybe Kelvin
#4287 [21:46] <Product> Hey almost.
#4288 [21:46] <sgteatlead241> aetherian
#4289 [21:46] <almostroot> Product: Logging in now
#4290 [21:46] <Product> Ok :) Thank you very much.
#4291 [21:46] <Product> I sent you a link
#4292 [21:46] <Kelvin> i am playing on my own server that i made and i think that i am the op but i cannot do anything like give me stuff or change the day
#4293 [21:47] <Product> Install essentials
#4294 [21:47] <Product> and you'll be able to use /time day
#4295 [21:47] <Kelvin> what is essentials
#4296 [21:47] <Product> And rest of other commands.
#4297 [21:47] <Product> I'll give you a link, 1 second.
#4298 [21:47] <almostroot> Kelvin: here are the default commands.
#4299 [21:47] <EntityReborn_> essentials isn't supported anymore
#4300 [21:47] <almostroot> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands
#4301 [21:47] <EntityReborn_> use commandbook
#4302 [21:47] <sgteatlead241> aetherian
#4303 [21:47] <Product> Here you can find all plugins.
#4304 [21:47] <Product> http://plugins.bukkit.org
#4305 [21:48] <almostroot> Kelvin: Anything else, you would have to use a server like bukkit. check #bukkit
#4306 [21:48] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :I heard you the first time sgteatlead241
#4307 [21:48] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :just say what it is you wish to say
#4308 [21:48] <Product> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/15312
#4309 [21:48] <Product> Install it.
#4310 [21:48] <Product> There is a small wiki, on how to install it.
#4311 [21:48] <Product> It's really easy.
#4312 [21:48] <Product> Yeah.
#4313 [21:48] <Product> Like almostroot said.
#4314 [21:48] <Kelvin> so if i install that bukkit it will work all the commands
#4315 [21:49] <sgteatlead241> are you alwys like this
#4316 [21:49] <EntityReborn_> Kelvin, bukkit is the loader.
#4317 [21:49] <almostroot> Kelvin: The first link contains the commands that are installed on the server by default.
#4318 [21:49] <EntityReborn_> server + modloader
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#4320 [21:49] <almostroot> Anything else, use bukkit.
#4321 [21:49] <Product> Yeah. And essentials are a list of usefull commands.
#4322 [21:49] <Kelvin> i tried those but they do not work
#4323 [21:49] <Product> Did you install essentials ?
#4324 [21:49] <Kelvin> no
#4325 [21:50] <Product> Do it, I recommend you.
#4326 [21:50] <Product> There are most of commands.
#4327 [21:50] <Kelvin> ok
#4328 [21:50] <Product> That you'll need in Beta.
#4329 [21:50] <almostroot> ??> kelvin smp/opyourself
#4330 [21:50] <VoxelHead> kelvin: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#4331 [21:50] <Product> Good Luck.
#4332 [21:50] <VoxelHead> kelvin: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#4333 [21:50] <Product> Exactly.
#4334 [21:50] <Product> almostroot.
#4335 [21:50] <Kelvin> say that again did not get most of that
#4336 [21:50] <Product> I have sent you a link on your email.
#4337 [21:51] <Product> I think it could help, it's a small tutorial about mono and Mclawl.
#4338 [21:51] <almostroot> Kelvin: Here are the commands installed by default: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands But you probably need to op yourself first.
#4339 [21:51] <almostroot> ??> kelvin smp/opyourself
#4340 [21:51] <VoxelHead> kelvin: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#4341 [21:51] <VoxelHead> kelvin: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#4342 [21:52] <sgteatlead241> how long does it take to get your account premium
#4343 [21:52] <sgteatlead241> and are they suppose to send me a recipt
#4344 [21:52] <almostroot> sgteatlead241: Avg 4-6 hours, sometimes less, sometimes more.
#4345 [21:52] <Kelvin> how do i add my to ops.txt.file
#4346 [21:52] <almostroot> ??> sgteatlead241 payment
#4347 [21:52] <VoxelHead> sgteatlead241: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#4348 [21:52] <VoxelHead> sgteatlead241: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#4349 [21:52] <Product> almostroot: http://forums.mcforge.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=181
#4350 [21:52] <Product> Edit it, by right clicking on it.
#4351 [21:52] <almostroot> Product: Got it.
#4352 [21:52] <sgteatlead241> visa
#4353 [21:52] <Product> And.
#4354 [21:52] <Product> Yeah: almostroot
#4355 [21:53] <Product> What are you using Kelvin.
#4356 [21:53] <Product> FileZilla ?
#4357 [21:53] <Product> Or the host's CPanel ?
#4358 [21:53] <Kelvin> i think host CPanel
#4359 [21:53] <Product> Hmm ok.
#4360 [21:53] <Product> What company ?
#4361 [21:54] <Kelvin> do not know
#4362 [21:54] <Product> (Mostly in CPanels, you'll see a white box, and you'll be able to click on it to select)
#4363 [21:54] <Product> You can select edit, or rename. Click "Edit".
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#4365 [21:54] <Product> And there you'll go to place where you can write, like notpad.
#4366 [21:54] * mib_01950g [mib_01950g@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4367 [21:54] <Product> Just write your name in the first sentence.
#4368 [21:55] <Product> And "Save", and restart your server.
#4369 [21:55] <Kelvin> what does a cpanel look like
#4370 [21:55] <Product> Join the game, and you'll be OP.
#4371 [21:55] <Product> It's where you can manage the server.
#4372 [21:55] <Product> I'll give you a screenshot.
#4373 [21:56] <Kelvin> ok
#4374 [21:56] <Product> http://www.newhostgatorcoupon.com/images/cpanel1.jpg
#4375 [21:56] <Product> Isn't a lot diffrent, but that's a web Cpanel for a webhosting.
#4376 [21:56] <Product> Where did you buy your server ?
#4377 [21:56] <Product> Or are you hosting it on your own PC ?
#4378 [21:56] <Kelvin> i am hosting it
#4379 [21:56] <Product> Oh.
#4380 [21:56] <Product> Where do you have all your files ?
#4381 [21:56] <almostroot> Product: Most people here are hosting it on their local PCs, so you need to go slowly, lol.
#4382 [21:57] <Product> Oh :)
#4383 [21:57] * IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT [IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4384 [21:57] <Product> Ok.
#4385 [21:57] <almostroot> Product: Start with the basics and move on.
#4386 [21:57] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Hey i need help running minecraft
#4387 [21:57] <Product> Ok, thank you :) This is the first time I tutor somebody.
#4388 [21:57] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> kk
#4389 [21:57] <Kelvin> in my desktop
#4390 [21:57] <Product> Ok, Kelvin. You have the Bukkit files.
#4391 [21:57] <almostroot> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: What is the issue?
#4392 [21:57] <Product> Yeah, go to the folder.
#4393 [21:57] <sgteatlead241> EntityReborn the next time i am on here i will have enough money to buy you a account and i am going to go so see you all later!
#4394 [21:57] <Product> You can see op.txt ?
#4395 [21:58] <Kelvin> where i have my files
#4396 [21:58] <Product> In your Desktop.
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#4398 [21:58] <Kelvin> ok hold on
#4399 [21:58] <Product> Ok :)
#4400 [21:58] <ferminter> hey can u help me plz
#4401 [21:58] <almostroot> ferminter: What's up?
#4402 [21:58] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> When i click the Icon to start the game... it well start up, i log in and it says new update availible.
#4403 [21:58] <Kelvin> does a notepad pop up when i click on it
#4404 [21:58] <Product> Yes, good job.
#4405 [21:59] <Kelvin> now what
#4406 [21:59] <almostroot> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: Did you update it?
#4407 [21:59] <ferminter> i got minecraft but when i downloaded it and it pops up bad video card driver what does tht mean?
#4408 [21:59] <Product> Well, now in notepad you write your minecraft username.
#4409 [21:59] <Product> For example: Kelvin
#4410 [21:59] <Product> On the first line.
#4411 [21:59] <ferminter> how do i update it?
#4412 [21:59] <Kelvin> ok wait up:)
#4413 [21:59] <almostroot> ferminter: Means you have a bad video card driver. Do you know your operating system/graphics card?
#4414 [21:59] <Product> Ok Kelvin, take your time :)
#4415 [21:59] <ferminter> no what is tht sorry
#4416 [21:59] <almostroot> ferminter: follow these instructions please:
#4417 [21:59] <Kelvin> my username in the game right
#4418 [21:59] <almostroot> ??> ferminter win/dxdiag
#4419 [22:00] <VoxelHead> ferminter: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4420 [22:00] <Product> Yeah, in game username.
#4421 [22:00] <VoxelHead> ferminter: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#4422 [22:00] <Kelvin> ok done
#4423 [22:00] <ferminter> wait up plz
#4424 [22:00] <Product> Ok, now just save the file.
#4425 [22:00] <almostroot> ferminter: Just read those carefully and follow them pelase.
#4426 [22:00] <Kelvin> ok hold just one second
#4427 [22:00] <almostroot> please*
#4428 [22:00] <Product> Ok, take your time Kelvin :)
#4429 [22:01] <Kelvin> ok done
#4430 [22:01] <Product> Ok, now restart your server.
#4431 [22:01] <Kelvin> like close it and run it again
#4432 [22:01] <Product> Yeah.
#4433 [22:01] <Product> Exactly, Kelvin.
#4434 [22:01] <Kelvin> ok let me see if it works
#4435 [22:02] <Product> If you've done everything right, it should work.
#4436 [22:02] <Product> After you close it and open it again, you join the Minecraft server, and you'll be able to use the commands that almostroot gave you.
#4437 [22:02] <Kelvin> ok hold on
#4438 [22:03] <Product> :)
#4439 [22:04] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> I update it and it says say like failure.
#4440 [22:04] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> or cannot update.
#4441 [22:04] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> :/
#4442 [22:04] <Kelvin> it is not working :(
#4443 [22:04] <Product> Did you save op.txt
#4444 [22:05] <Product> And wrote your name on it, and everything ?
#4445 [22:05] <Kelvin> i think so let me check
#4446 [22:05] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Hello?
#4447 [22:05] <ferminter> didnt work to confuseing :I
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#4449 [22:05] <Product> Mostly your name color won't change.
#4450 [22:05] <almostroot> Kelvin: Product: The server has to be restarted after a username is added for it to take effect.
#4451 [22:05] <Product> I told him to restart the server, I think he has done that.
#4452 [22:06] <Kelvin> let me try again
#4453 [22:06] <Product> Ok :)
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#4455 [22:06] <Kimax> skal jeg så svare på dit spørgsmål?
#4456 [22:06] <maksenDK> ja :D hehe
#4457 [22:06] <maksenDK> ja tak
#4458 [22:06] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> It is updating it right now... i will wait to see when it is done.
#4459 [22:06] <Kelvin> i forgot to capitalize my name in some letters let me see if it works now
#4460 [22:07] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Should it work after i update it this time???
#4461 [22:07] <Kimax> svaret er nej... standart give command kan ikke give dig farvet uld... men du kan få mods til singleplayer og mods via craftbukkit til server
#4462 [22:08] <Kelvin> it is still not working
#4463 [22:08] <Kelvin> :(:(
#4464 [22:08] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> It says downloading packages.
#4465 [22:08] <maksenDK> ja ok.. fuckit så.. :) så svært er det heller ikke.. det er bare hvis man skal bruge rigtig meget er det lidt pres..
#4466 [22:09] <Kimax> im just waiting for the update to hit craftbukkit :D
#4467 [22:09] <Kelvin> Product help
#4468 [22:09] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Wish this update would hurry.
#4469 [22:09] <Kimax> maksenDK bare forbered en masse farvet uld... det gør jeg
#4470 [22:09] <Kimax> Kelvin can i help you?
#4471 [22:09] <maksenDK> ja nemlig :) tak mand!
#4472 [22:09] <Kimax> det var så lidt
#4473 [22:10] <Kelvin> yes i have saved myself as a op but it is still not working when i go into my server
#4474 [22:10] <Kimax> jeg er for det meste altid online... så hvis der skule være mere, kan du bare skrive
#4475 [22:11] <maksenDK> fedt! jeg idler og spiller vidre så :)
#4476 [22:11] <Kimax> Kelvin did you remember that the file is case-sensitive?
#4477 [22:11] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> it say fatal error occured failed to download minecraft.jar
#4478 [22:11] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> HELP ME!
#4479 [22:11] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> :(
#4480 [22:11] <Kelvin> huh?
#4481 [22:11] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> when i tried updating it thats what it said
#4482 [22:12] <Kimax> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT the update isnt out 100% yet...
#4483 [22:12] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> well.... cannot i not play?
#4484 [22:12] <Kelvin> what does case sensitive mean
#4485 [22:13] <Kimax> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT try go to your minecraft folder and delete the game from there... it will download the latest version of the game then.
#4486 [22:13] <Kelvin> i think i now what to do i did not put a slash before the command
#4487 [22:13] <Kimax> Kelvin that "k" and "K" isnt the same
#4488 [22:13] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> so just delete the whole game????
#4489 [22:13] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> i clicked dont update
#4490 [22:13] <Kelvin> hold on
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#4492 [22:14] <Kimax> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT just the .minecraft folder
#4493 [22:14] <almostroot> Kimax: Wait a sec.
#4494 [22:14] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> there isn't an .minecraft folder
#4495 [22:14] <almostroot> ??> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT win/reinst
#4496 [22:14] <VoxelHead> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4497 [22:14] <VoxelHead> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4498 [22:14] <almostroot> Follow those directions IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT
#4499 [22:15] <Kimax> almostroot awesome... didnt knew that command :D
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#4502 [22:15] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Okay i will thanks guys alot!
#4503 [22:15] <Kimax> np
#4504 [22:16] <Kelvin> thanks everyone it works now
#4505 [22:16] <Kelvin> bye
#4506 [22:16] <Kimax> np
#4507 [22:16] <Kimax> bye
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#4509 [22:17] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> hey where is the save directory?
#4510 [22:18] <Kimax> .minecraft/saves
#4511 [22:18] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> when i opened the .minecraft folder a folder named bin appeared and a last login thingy
#4512 [22:18] <almostroot> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: Delete everything if there is no saves folder.
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#4514 [22:18] <maksenDK> kimax : kan jeg få flymode med en on/off command på min server?
#4515 [22:19] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Alright i did that, now what?
#4516 [22:19] <almostroot> Run the Minecraft.exe client again.
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#4518 [22:19] <almostroot> IF it gives you an error, let us know.
#4519 [22:19] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> update or no?
#4520 [22:19] <almostroot> Yes.
#4521 [22:19] <almostroot> Update.
#4522 [22:20] <Kimax> maksenDK flymode er et mod du skal installere på selve clienten... dog skal der enable på fly i settings på serveren
#4523 [22:20] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Ok, it is downloading... I will let you know when it is done.
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#4525 [22:20] <maksenDK> okay.. hvor henter i mods?
#4526 [22:22] <Kimax> du kan finde nogen af dem her http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods
#4527 [22:23] <maksenDK> tak
#4528 [22:23] <pr0bity> Long time since irc, jumped on just cause I'm stumped. I dug down to bedrock, dug out two 14x14 pads with a waterfall type grinder. 2x2 shafts around each pad, currents all good, all taken from ethos' youtube videos. Anyway, located various mines/dungeons around, lit them up, repeated until I can't see anything other than the spawning area with F3. Still with two pads I don't get that
#4529 [22:23] <pr0bity> many spawns. Even lit up ground floor up top. What am I doing wrong? :| Any tips would be hugely appreciated, trying to fish for myself...
#4530 [22:23] * mib_spal7f [mib_spal7f@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4531 [22:23] <mib_spal7f> Please help
#4532 [22:23] <pr0bity> that many = hardly any for 20 minutes, have to switch from peaceful to easy over and over to get one skel.
#4533 [22:24] <almostroot> ??> mib_spal7f ask
#4534 [22:24] <VoxelHead> mib_spal7f: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4535 [22:24] <VoxelHead> mib_spal7f: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#4537 [22:25] <mib_spal7f> Can someone help me! I downloaded a texture pack, and when I try to log in, it says Done Loading, but it stops at end. I even ried Force Update!
#4538 [22:26] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> it says fatal error occured
#4539 [22:26] <mib_spal7f> ?
#4540 [22:26] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> failed to download
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#4542 [22:27] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> :(
#4543 [22:27] <mib_spal7f> No, it just keeps staying like that forever...
#4544 [22:27] <almostroot> ??> mib_spal7f win/reinst
#4545 [22:27] <VoxelHead> mib_spal7f: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4546 [22:27] <VoxelHead> mib_spal7f: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4547 [22:27] <mib_spal7f> I have mac computer
#4548 [22:27] <almostroot> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: Can I get the exact wording of the error?
#4549 [22:28] <almostroot> ??> mib_spal7f mac/reinst
#4550 [22:28] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> i already exited it out :/ ill do it again....
#4551 [22:28] <VoxelHead> mib_spal7f: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4552 [22:28] <VoxelHead> mib_spal7f: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4553 [22:30] <mib_spal7f> still doesn't work. do I have to reinstall?
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#4555 [22:30] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Cause i would hate not being able to play after i purchase the game....
#4556 [22:30] <almostroot> mib_spal7f: What exactly happens?
#4557 [22:31] <mib_spal7f> I type in password, then click login, but it stays at Done loading above green bar that is almost full
#4558 [22:32] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> that same thing happens to me if i click dnt update.
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#4560 [22:32] <mermi> um im having trouble with my run.bat server
#4561 [22:32] <mermi> it pops up for a sec then dissapers
#4562 [22:33] <mib_spal7f> Nevermind. I fixed it! THANKS VOXELHEAD!
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#4564 [22:33] <almostroot> VoxelHead is a bot.
#4565 [22:33] <pr0bity> mermi, I'm clueless but you may try dragging the bat to a command prompt (start, run, cmd, then drag the file there). It may give you a more detailed error.
#4566 [22:33] <weirdo> excuse me um ho do allow do i let Amazon get my info if i accidentally refused
#4567 [22:33] <almostroot> mermi: Put the contents of your server.bat on pastebin pelase.
#4568 [22:33] <almostroot> ?? pastebin
#4569 [22:33] <mib_spal7f> he is not a person?
#4570 [22:33] <pr0bity> again, no experience other than with batches :)
#4571 [22:33] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you do, and we can see what you have pasted.
#4572 [22:33] <almostroot> mib_spal7f: No.
#4573 [22:33] <mermi> ight
#4574 [22:33] <mib_spal7f> ok...
#4575 [22:34] <mib_spal7f> but he still helped
#4576 [22:34] <gizmodrc> im need help with a mod can you help me
#4577 [22:34] <weirdo> excuse me um how do allow do i let Amazon get my info if i accidentally refused
#4578 [22:34] <mermi> http://pastebin.com/ZqJTvWGx here u are
#4579 [22:34] <Product> almostroot, is everything done now ?
#4580 [22:35] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Alright the it says fatal error occured (4): failed to download lwjgl.jar Retrieving: lwjgl.jar 19% @11.92kb/sec
#4581 [22:35] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> thats the error message almostroot
#4582 [22:35] <almostroot> mermi: Are you running your server on a Windows computer?
#4583 [22:35] <mermi> yes
#4584 [22:35] <almostroot> mermi: Can you hit Windows Key+R and in the box, enter CMD and press enter. Then in the window that appears, type java-version
#4585 [22:35] <almostroot> java -version
#4586 [22:35] <weirdo> ????????????????
#4587 [22:35] <mermi> ya
#4588 [22:36] <almostroot> weirdo: No idea what you're talking about.
#4589 [22:36] <weirdo> excuse me um how do allow do i let Amazon get my info if i accidentally refused
#4590 [22:36] <almostroot> Product: Not yet.
#4591 [22:36] <Product> Oh ok, so you'll continui later, right ?
#4592 [22:37] <gizmodrc> im need help with a mod can you help me
#4593 [22:37] <weirdo> -_-
#4594 [22:37] <mermi> almostroot:http://pastebin.com/41td7NW7
#4595 [22:37] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> almostroot the error msg is fatal error occured (4): failed to download lwjgl.jar Retrieving: lwjgl.jar 19% @11.92kb/sec
#4596 [22:37] <almostroot> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: Check your java version please.
#4597 [22:37] <almostroot> ??> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT java/version
#4598 [22:37] <VoxelHead> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#4599 [22:37] <VoxelHead> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#4600 [22:38] <Product> almostroot: thank you very much, and take your time :)
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#4602 [22:38] <almostroot> gizmodrc: Try the #risucrft channel for mods
#4603 [22:38] <Graversimen> hi
#4604 [22:38] <Graversimen> lol
#4605 [22:38] <weirdo> Product: excuse me um how do allow do i let Amazon get my info if i accidentally refused?
#4606 [22:38] <Graversimen> i got banned from #terraria
#4607 [22:38] <Product> Hmm
#4608 [22:38] <Product> use /msg
#4609 [22:38] <Graversimen> i spammed this all time :D
#4610 [22:38] <Graversimen> MINECRAFT
#4611 [22:38] <Product> ./msg hisname information
#4612 [22:38] <Graversimen> :P
#4613 [22:38] <almostroot> weirdo: Try closing the browser and trying again.
#4614 [22:39] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Version 6 Update 23
#4615 [22:39] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> almostroot its Version 6 Update 23
#4616 [22:39] <Graversimen> java?
#4617 [22:39] <almostroot> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: You need to update your version of java.
#4618 [22:39] <Graversimen> yeah
#4619 [22:39] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> yeah
#4620 [22:39] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> will it work then?
#4621 [22:39] <almostroot> ??> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT getjava
#4622 [22:39] <VoxelHead> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#4623 [22:39] <weirdo> Product: It didn't work
#4624 [22:39] <mermi> almostroot:heres the stuff in the cmd http://pastebin.com/41td7NW7
#4625 [22:39] <Product> weirdo: can you please explain me more what you want
#4626 [22:40] <gizmodrc> almostroot no ones there
#4627 [22:40] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> I'm dowloading the version 6 update 26
#4628 [22:40] <almostroot> gizmodrc: #risucraft
#4629 [22:40] <almostroot> mermi: Is the .bat in the same folder as minecraft_server.jar?
#4630 [22:40] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Almostroot will it most likely work then?
#4631 [22:40] <mermi> yea
#4632 [22:40] <Product> weirdo: You want to send onformation to someone ?
#4633 [22:41] <Product> Information*
#4634 [22:41] <weirdo> Product: i was searching to online to play the outdate minecraft then it asked if amazon could my info ac
#4635 [22:41] <almostroot> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: After another reinstallation, yes.
#4636 [22:41] <Graversimen> guys
#4637 [22:41] <pr0bity> well guys I'll stumble through the dark a bit more and try to figure out this trap :) almostroot, your level of patience is pretty amazing, not sure I would hang out as long as you have :) Good night guys.
#4638 [22:41] <weirdo> accindentally said no
#4639 [22:41] <almostroot> Night pr0bity
#4640 [22:41] <Graversimen|Asleep> bye
#4641 [22:41] <Product> weirdo: Hmm, don't give out your real Minecraft account/password.
#4642 [22:42] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> so i reinstall the game again? or just update it almostroot
#4643 [22:42] <Product> weirdo: I suggest you refreshing your browser, so you'll get the message again like almostroot said.
#4644 [22:42] <almostroot> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: I would recommend a reinstallation jsut to be sure after getting the new version of Java. So delete everything in the .minecraft folder again.
#4645 [22:42] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Alright
#4646 [22:42] <weirdo> Product: said my computer info
#4647 [22:42] <mermi> almostroot:the .bat is in the same folder as the .jar
#4648 [22:43] <weirdo> Ok BRB
#4649 [22:43] <Product> weirdo: what info did it ask you for.
#4650 [22:43] <Product> weirdo: Ok :)
#4651 [22:43] <Graversimen|Asleep> im going now
#4652 [22:43] <weirdo> Hard Drive
#4653 [22:43] <Graversimen|Asleep> going to bed
#4654 [22:43] <Graversimen|Asleep> bye :P
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#4656 [22:43] <Product> Night.
#4657 [22:43] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Done, Now do i update?
#4658 [22:43] <almostroot> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: Yup.
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#4660 [22:44] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> Alright should it work????
#4661 [22:44] <weirdo> Product:It didn't work
#4662 [22:44] <almostroot> weirdo: What website were you at? That spunds suspicious.
#4663 [22:44] <almostroot> sounds*
#4664 [22:44] <mermi> almostroot:the .bat is in the same folder as the .jar
#4665 [22:44] <Product> Exactly.
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#4667 [22:44] <weirdo> minecraft.com
#4668 [22:44] <Product> weirdo: don't give any Minecraft username/password out to the website.
#4669 [22:44] <Product> weirdo: oh, but .com isn't the real website.
#4670 [22:44] <weirdo> i didn't
#4671 [22:44] <almostroot> mermi: How much memory (RAM) do you have on your server?
#4672 [22:45] <weirdo> ohhhhhhhh
#4673 [22:45] <almostroot> weirdo: minecraft.net
#4674 [22:45] <Product> weirdo: You mean www.minecraft.net right ?
#4675 [22:45] <mermi> um idk but my computer has 3.00GB
#4676 [22:45] <moorent> My game keeps crashing at the main menu and world creation; the window exits and no crash report is given- anything I can do to fix this?
#4677 [22:46] <weirdo> I misread it it said.net
#4678 [22:46] <Product> weirdo: Do you want to play the outdated version, (classic)
#4679 [22:46] <almostroot> mermi: Try redownloading the server from here: www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar
#4680 [22:46] <Product> weirdo: I'am right ?
#4681 [22:46] <weirdo> yes
#4682 [22:46] <almostroot> moorent: Please check your version of Java.
#4683 [22:46] <Product> weirdo: Ok, cool. Did you register ?
#4684 [22:46] <mermi> will it destroy my world
#4685 [22:46] <almostroot> ??> moorent java/version
#4686 [22:46] <weirdo> you are what
#4687 [22:46] <VoxelHead> moorent: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#4688 [22:46] <VoxelHead> moorent: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#4689 [22:46] <almostroot> mermi: Has the server ever worked before?
#4690 [22:46] <weirdo> i have two accounts
#4691 [22:47] <mermi> yeah just stoped today
#4692 [22:47] <Product> weirdo: Ok, login on one of them and click Multi-Player.
#4693 [22:47] <Product> weirdo: and select any working sever.
#4694 [22:47] <weirdo> i tried that earlier it still had the same text
#4695 [22:47] <moorent> I have the latest version of java
#4696 [22:47] <Product> weirdo: What text ?
#4697 [22:47] <moorent> I'm using linux, btw
#4698 [22:48] <Product> weirdo: What text occured when you tried to play on a server.
#4699 [22:48] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> WOW almostroot another fatal error msg
#4700 [22:48] <almostroot> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: What this time?
#4701 [22:48] <weirdo> Permission has ben refused
#4702 [22:48] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> want the msg?
#4703 [22:48] <Product> weirdo: It could be possible that the server you selected is currently down. (Not working).
#4704 [22:48] <almostroot> moorent: What distribution?
#4705 [22:49] <Product> weirdo: Please try selecting other server.
#4706 [22:49] <moorent> ubuntu 11.04
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#4708 [22:49] <almostroot> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: Please put it on pastebin if more than one line.
#4709 [22:49] <almostroot> moorent: Open a terminal and enter java-version
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#4711 [22:49] <almostroot> moorent: Tell me if it said OpenJDK or Sun Java
#4712 [22:49] <mermi> almstroot:the .bat just stoped working today
#4713 [22:49] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> pastebin?
#4714 [22:49] <moorent> javajava -version
#4715 [22:49] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> oh ok
#4716 [22:49] <almostroot> mermi: Did you change anything today?
#4717 [22:50] <weirdo> it reads Permission for applet refused please accept dialog agree ment
#4718 [22:50] <moorent> java version "1.6.0_24" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07) Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode)
#4719 [22:50] <mermi> well i was renaming the folder
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#4721 [22:50] <Product> weirdo: you have joined a server before this time and it worked sucesfully right ?
#4722 [22:50] <weirdo> No
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#4724 [22:50] <Product> weirdo: Ok, we'll do a test for your Java version.
#4725 [22:50] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> fatal error occurred(4): failed to download minecraft.jar retrieving: minecraft.jar 57% @20.79kb/sec
#4726 [22:51] <mermi> but i named it back to wat it was before and i got skinedit and tryed gettig the audiomod and the other think
#4727 [22:51] <weirdo> Does using a mac book effect that
#4728 [22:51] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> thats what it said almostroot
#4729 [22:51] <mermi> thing
#4730 [22:51] <almostroot> moorent: That is not the most current version of java. Please update it.
#4731 [22:51] <almostroot> ??> moorent linux/ubuntu/sun-java
#4732 [22:51] <VoxelHead> moorent: (linux/ubuntu/sun-java) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-jre-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
#4733 [22:51] <Product> weirdo: http://javatester.org/version.html
#4734 [22:51] <krebbit> cannot get the game to run on my computer - help
#4735 [22:51] <Product> weirdo: Please do a test there, and pass me the results.
#4736 [22:52] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> fatal error occurred(4): failed to download minecraft.jar retrieving: minecraft.jar 57% @20.79kb/sec
#4737 [22:52] <almostroot> mermi: The mod you tried to install broke it.
#4738 [22:52] <weirdo> java version 1.6_24 for mac
#4739 [22:52] <mermi> but i backed up the thing
#4740 [22:52] <Product> weirdo: Ok, Java version is good.
#4741 [22:52] <Product> weirdo: When Java was loading.
#4742 [22:52] <mermi> so i have to make the .bat agin
#4743 [22:53] <almostroot> IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT: Can you try playing it in a browser for me? www.minecraft.net/play.jsp
#4744 [22:53] <Product> weirdo: It asked you to "Run" or "Cancel" right ?
#4745 [22:53] <Product> weirdo: Which one did you select.
#4746 [22:53] <weirdo> cancel
#4747 [22:53] <almostroot> mermi: May be breaking the server client, which I would replay.
#4748 [22:53] <almostroot> mermi: Are you running bukkit or stock server?
#4749 [22:53] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> alright i will.
#4750 [22:53] <Product> weirdo: and you also select always remember this option, right ?
#4751 [22:53] <almostroot> replay/replace
#4752 [22:53] <mermi> um idk what those are
#4753 [22:53] <weirdo> I'm not sure
#4754 [22:54] <Product> weirdo: Ok, weirdo what browser did you use ?
#4755 [22:54] <weirdo> Safari
#4756 [22:54] <Product> weirdo: Try using onother browser if you have please.
#4757 [22:54] <almostroot> mermi: Redownload the server from here: http://www.mincraft.net/download/minecraft_server.jar
#4758 [22:54] <IWANNAPLAYMINECRAFT> It's downloading the packages on the browser
#4759 [22:54] <Product> weirdo: For example "Google Chrome", "FireFox" or "IE"
#4760 [22:54] <almostroot> Product: On a Mac, the only browser Minecrafft tends to work in is Safari.
#4761 [22:55] <almostroot> Product: And IE is NOT an option for Macs.
#4762 [22:55] <Product> almostroot: Oh, sorry didn't know that.
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#4764 [22:55] <Product> almostroot: what do you recommend weirdo to do in this situation ?
#4765 [22:55] <weirdo> I only have safari my hard drive was replaced
#4766 [22:55] <mermi> how do i make a .bat again
#4767 [22:55] <almostroot> weirdo: Are you playing the downloaded version or the browser version?
#4768 [22:55] <Graversimen|Asleep> whats hes problem
#4769 [22:56] <Product> No he's playing Classic.
#4770 [22:56] <Product> (Outdated Version)
#4771 [22:56] <Product> And you know normaly you click Run to Java.
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#4773 [22:56] <mermi> how doi make a .bat
#4774 [22:56] <Graversimen|Asleep> whats the problem ??
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#4776 [22:56] <weirdo> yes
#4777 [22:56] <Product> He clicked "Cancel" and remember this acction.
#4778 [22:56] <Product> So Java won't load on the Minecraft website.
#4779 [22:56] <almostroot> weirdo: Open Safari, click on Safari in the Menu Bar, and click Reset Safari.
#4780 [22:56] <lazy> why do i have build lag if my internet is fine?
#4781 [22:56] <Product> almostroot: Thank you, exelent :)
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#4783 [22:57] <mib_let1ay> Hey
#4784 [22:57] <almostroot> lazy: Be more specific please.
#4785 [22:57] <weirdo> How do i do that
#4786 [22:57] <almostroot> mib_let1ay: What can we help you with?
#4787 [22:57] <almostroot> weirdo: Open Safari, click on Safari in the Menu Bar, and click Reset Safari.
#4788 [22:57] <Product> Ok weirdo.
#4789 [22:57] <Product> Yeah.
#4790 [22:57] <mib_let1ay> When I open MC, it crashes
#4791 [22:58] <mib_let1ay> after I login
#4792 [22:58] <Product> Visit this link for more weirdo: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Safari/3.0/en/9300.html
#4793 [22:58] <lazy> well, in multiplayer i place a block, it dissapears then reappears a few secs later
#4794 [22:58] <mib_let1ay> Both in broswer and downloaded
#4795 [22:58] <Product> It helps you how to reset Safari.
#4796 [22:58] <weirdo> iWhat do i restart
#4797 [22:58] <Graversimen|Asleep> did you install any mods ?
#4798 [22:58] <Graversimen|Asleep> mib_let1ay
#4799 [22:58] <almostroot> weirdo: One sec.
#4800 [22:58] <mib_let1ay> INo
#4801 [22:58] <Product> weirdo: Or this link: http://browsers.about.com/od/safar1/ht/safaridefault.htm
#4802 [22:58] <mib_let1ay> Should I try downloading a fresh copy?
#4803 [22:58] <Graversimen|Asleep> yeah
#4804 [22:59] <almostroot> weirdo: Look at this picture please. http://i.imgur.com/nN6St.jpg
#4805 [22:59] <weirdo> It gave me options in what to restart what am I restarting
#4806 [22:59] <mib_let1ay> Still no good
#4807 [22:59] <almostroot> weirdo: Just click the reset button.
#4808 [22:59] <mib_let1ay> Crashes still, I sent support@mojang.com an email
#4809 [23:00] <almostroot> mib_let1ay: Please check your java version
#4810 [23:00] <almostroot> ??> mib_let1ay java/version
#4811 [23:00] <VoxelHead> mib_let1ay: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#4812 [23:00] <VoxelHead> mib_let1ay: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#4813 [23:00] <mib_let1ay> You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 26).
#4814 [23:00] <Wug> omg vox is back
#4815 [23:01] <almostroot> Wug: Has been for a while. Was a power outage.
#4816 [23:01] * Wug knows
#4816 [23:01] <Wug> last I checked, he was still missing
#4817 [23:01] <lazy> iwhen i place a block in multiplayer, it dissapears then reappears a few minutes later
#4818 [23:01] <almostroot> lazy: Have you tried other servers?
#4819 [23:01] <mib_let1ay> So what should I do now?
#4820 [23:01] <Product> Lazy: It's mostly a bug of the server itself, or your internet can be kinda slow.
#4821 [23:01] <lazy> nto yet
#4822 [23:01] <Graversimen|Asleep> where did the ! bot go?
#4823 [23:01] <lazy> *not
#4824 [23:02] <almostroot> mib_let1ay: Does it create an error file?
#4825 [23:02] <Graversimen|Asleep> oh
#4826 [23:02] <Graversimen|Asleep> its there
#4827 [23:02] <Graversimen|Asleep> lol
#4828 [23:02] <mib_let1ay> almostroot: yes
#4829 [23:02] <almostroot> lazy: Try this server please: s.nerd.nu
#4830 [23:02] <mib_let1ay> it comes up in the program
#4831 [23:02] <lazy> ny internet seems fine
#4832 [23:02] <almostroot> mib_let1ay: Can you post that on pastebin please?
#4833 [23:02] <almostroot> ?? pastebin
#4834 [23:02] <mib_let1ay> ok
#4835 [23:02] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you do, and we can see what you have pasted.
#4836 [23:02] <lazy> ok 1 sec
#4837 [23:03] <Product> almostroot: Is Vox a bot ?
#4838 [23:03] <mib_let1ay> http://pastebin.com/gT8RS4Xi
#4839 [23:03] <almostroot> Product: Yes
#4840 [23:03] <Graversimen|Asleep> almostroot, why do u advertise to s.nerd.nu ?
#4841 [23:03] <Product> almostroot: Oh ok :)
#4842 [23:03] <almostroot> Graversimen|Asleep: Ran by reddit guys, always works flawlessly.
#4843 [23:03] <almostroot> Graversimen|Asleep: Not advertising, just know its a good server to test.
#4844 [23:04] <Graversimen|Asleep> but what if they stay there
#4845 [23:04] <Graversimen|Asleep> and u say a ip
#4846 [23:04] <almostroot> Graversimen|Asleep: Good for them?
#4847 [23:04] <Graversimen|Asleep> thats advertising
#4848 [23:04] <Product> weirdo: What happened to the reset, did you reset already ?
#4849 [23:04] <almostroot> Graversimen|Asleep: Hush.
#4850 [23:04] <Graversimen|Asleep> they dont need people
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#4852 [23:04] <Graversimen|Asleep> why not advertise to my server ? XD
#4853 [23:04] <Graversimen|Asleep> :P
#4854 [23:04] <almostroot> Graversimen|Asleep: Because you have an interest in it.
#4855 [23:04] <Graversimen|Asleep> its short ip :P
#4856 [23:04] <mib_5jv6ok> hey almostroot its i wanna playminecraft
#4857 [23:04] <almostroot> Let me help these people and stop spamming the channel.
#4858 [23:05] <almostroot> mib_let1ay: You need to update java.
#4859 [23:05] <almostroot> ??> mib_let1ay getjava
#4860 [23:05] <VoxelHead> mib_let1ay: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#4861 [23:05] <mib_let1ay> IOk
#4862 [23:05] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: How's everything working?
#4863 [23:05] <mib_let1ay> Wait
#4864 [23:05] <mib_let1ay> I have that version though
#4865 [23:05] <mib_let1ay> I updated it already
#4866 [23:05] <Product> I'am afk for 2 mins.
#4867 [23:05] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: The log you gave me says an old version.
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#4869 [23:06] <Product> Ok back :)
#4870 [23:06] <Graversimen|Asleep> lol
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#4872 [23:06] <mib_5jv6ok> i went to what u told me to where i play like on the internet
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#4874 [23:06] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Did it work?
#4875 [23:06] <mib_5jv6ok> in a browser
#4876 [23:06] <mib_5jv6ok> and it worked
#4877 [23:06] <weirdo> Product:It didn't work
#4878 [23:06] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Means you may be missing a file when you are reinstalling.
#4879 [23:06] <Product> weirdo: Did you reset it succesfully ?
#4880 [23:07] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Try one more time to reinstll for me please.
#4881 [23:07] <Product> weirdo: Did you also click "Run" ?
#4882 [23:07] <almostroot> ??> mib_5jv6ok win/reinst
#4883 [23:07] <VoxelHead> mib_5jv6ok: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4884 [23:07] <VoxelHead> mib_5jv6ok: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4885 [23:07] <weirdo> BRB
#4886 [23:07] <Product> weirdo: Ok :)
#4887 [23:07] <lazy> ok, so s.nerd works fine...
#4888 [23:07] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: I need the most recent log if you want help.
#4889 [23:07] <almostroot> lazy: Then it's the server you normally play on. Contact the admin.
#4890 [23:08] <Product> lazy: Then mostly it's because of the server.
#4891 [23:08] <Product> A lot of servers crash, and lag these days.
#4892 [23:08] <mib_5jv6ok> what you mean most recent log?
#4893 [23:08] <lazy> ugh ok thanks
#4894 [23:08] <Product> Because of 1.6.6 I head it uses double cap.
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#4896 [23:08] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: The log you gave me is NOT the most recent log.
#4897 [23:08] <Product> weirdo: Welcome Back.
#4898 [23:08] <Graversimen|Asleep> lol
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#4900 [23:09] <EntityReborn_> Ohai
#4901 [23:09] <Product> weirdo: Wb.
#4902 [23:09] <mib_5jv6ok> log? what is the log that i gave you?
#4903 [23:09] <weirdo> i still didnt word
#4904 [23:10] <weirdo> :[
#4905 [23:10] <Product> weirdo: What happens exactly ?
#4906 [23:10] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Sorry, wrong mib_ person. There are so many!!!
#4907 [23:10] <Product> weirdo: What is the message you get, while trying to play.
#4908 [23:10] <mib_5jv6ok> oh its ok
#4909 [23:10] <Graversimen|Asleep> lol
#4910 [23:10] <moorent> alright.
#4911 [23:11] <almostroot> moorent: How are things?
#4912 [23:11] <moorent> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed says I have the most recent java
#4913 [23:11] <moorent> and still no dice
#4914 [23:11] <almostroot> moorent: Remind me what we've tried so far please.
#4915 [23:11] <Graversimen|Asleep> im going niw
#4916 [23:11] <Graversimen|Asleep> bye
#4917 [23:11] <Graversimen|Asleep> good night
#4918 [23:11] <weirdo> i cant remember now i think it said applet refused or something like that
#4919 [23:11] <moorent> I get to the menu, sometimes all the way to world building and the gamne crashes without a crash report
#4920 [23:11] <Graversimen|Asleep> :P
#4921 [23:11] <Graversimen|Asleep> lol
#4922 [23:11] <moorent> but it does create a log
#4923 [23:12] <mib_5jv6ok> Ok in the .minecraft folder there is bin resources last login and options.... Do i delete all of these?
#4924 [23:12] <almostroot> moorent: Post the newest log for me on pastebin.
#4925 [23:12] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Everything.
#4926 [23:12] <Product> weirdo: Are you there ?
#4927 [23:12] <weirdo> yes
#4928 [23:12] <mib_5jv6ok> deleted now what?
#4929 [23:12] <mib_let1ay> Alright, I just updated Java again and reinstalled Minecraft, still no luck
#4930 [23:12] <Product> weirdo: Can you please provide me what error message you get exactly.
#4931 [23:13] <weirdo> i cant remember now i think it said applet refused or something like that
#4932 [23:13] <almostroot> Product: The issue with your server is that it has minecraft preinstalled and running and I don't see where to stop it.
#4933 [23:13] <Product> weirdo: Did you try to connect to a server again ?
#4934 [23:13] <almostroot> Product: At least at boot. I can kill it and start your classic server, but if you ever reboot, it won't be working.
#4935 [23:13] <weirdo> yes
#4936 [23:13] <mib_5jv6ok> I deleted everything. Now what?
#4937 [23:14] <Product> Oh.
#4938 [23:14] <moorent> http://mibpaste.com/pdGG3p
#4939 [23:14] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Go ahead and download a new client too. You're running windows, right?
#4940 [23:14] <Product> almostroot: Can we keep the server just online without stopping it ?
#4941 [23:14] <moorent> i had to cut off the end to make it fit, tell me if you need it
#4942 [23:14] <Product> almostroot: or will it crash from time to time ?
#4943 [23:14] <almostroot> Product: Yeah, and you can put in a ticket to your hosting guys.
#4944 [23:14] <mib_5jv6ok> yes. so just redownload the game from minecraft.com?
#4945 [23:14] <Product> weirdo: Did you get the Run / Cancel Message ?
#4946 [23:14] <almostroot> ??> mib_5jv6ok win/client
#4947 [23:14] <VoxelHead> mib_5jv6ok: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#4948 [23:15] <Product> almostroot: If the server crashes ?
#4949 [23:15] <Product> almostroot: Or for what exactly do I have to send them a support tickit ?
#4950 [23:15] <mib_5jv6ok> alright i downloaded it.
#4951 [23:15] <Product> ticket*
#4952 [23:16] <mib_5jv6ok> Now it says downloading packages.
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#4954 [23:16] <EntityReborn_> mib_5jv6ok, yup
#4955 [23:16] <frogmella> Hello
#4956 [23:16] <Product> frogmella: Hello
#4957 [23:16] <frogmella> I have some problems with minecraft
#4958 [23:17] <mib_5jv6ok> Is it possible for me to have bought the game and can't play it?
#4959 [23:17] <EntityReborn_> frogmella, whats up?
#4960 [23:17] <Product> frogmella: Go for it, tell me your problem :)
#4961 [23:17] <EntityReborn_> mib_5jv6ok, could be.
#4962 [23:17] <mib_5jv6ok> :/
#4963 [23:17] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: What happened?
#4964 [23:17] <EntityReborn_> If your computer can't run it, then possibly.
#4965 [23:18] <frogmella> Thanks Ok so basicly when i launch minecraft after the game is loading a small windows window open and tell me java error with multiple choie debug send report or dont send
#4966 [23:18] <frogmella> choice*
#4967 [23:18] <mib_5jv6ok> almostroot it is downloading packages....
#4968 [23:18] <EntityReborn_> frogmella, reinstall java
#4969 [23:18] <frogmella> i did it
#4970 [23:18] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Give it time.
#4971 [23:18] <frogmella> still not working
#4972 [23:18] <Product> frogmella: Can you provide us the error log.
#4973 [23:18] <moorent> http://mibpaste.com/jXQFXA
#4974 [23:18] <frogmella> yes
#4975 [23:18] <moorent> is the second half, if you need it
#4976 [23:18] <mib_5jv6ok> the one on the website that almostroot gave me worked just fine
#4977 [23:18] <Product> frogmelal: Try pasting it on www.pastebin.com
#4978 [23:19] <mib_let1ay> i have completely redone minecraft, the .minecraft folder and the *.exe
#4979 [23:19] <mib_let1ay> it still crashes when I press login
#4980 [23:19] <almostroot> moorent: I'm looking over the log...
#4981 [23:20] <moorent> i appreciate it
#4982 [23:20] <weirdo> IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!! THANKS
#4983 [23:20] <Product> weirdo: Your welcome, most of thanks goes to almostroot :)
#4984 [23:20] <almostroot> weirdo: Glad to hear it.
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#4987 [23:20] <EntityReborn_> mib_5jv6ok, you are good to go?
#4988 [23:21] <almostroot> Product: And now I'm running into a mclaws error. Something in the .net framework.
#4989 [23:21] <Product> Oh.
#4990 [23:21] <mib_5jv6ok> It is still downloading packages
#4991 [23:21] <Product> Dam :(
#4992 [23:21] <mib_5jv6ok> thanks for helping me.
#4993 [23:21] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Did it freeze, or is it just going slowly?
#4994 [23:21] <Product> almostroot: Can you maybe run it from .bat file ?
#4995 [23:21] <weirdo> It stoped working now
#4996 [23:21] <frogmella> should i provide a screen ?
#4997 [23:21] <mib_let1ay> would it be safe to delete java
#4998 [23:21] <mib_5jv6ok> well the error is back again.... :(
#4999 [23:21] <mib_let1ay> from my computer
#5000 [23:22] <Product> frogmella: Yes.
#5001 [23:22] <mib_let1ay> and completely reinstall
#5002 [23:22] <frogmella> ok
#5003 [23:22] <almostroot> Product: Doesn;t quite work that way. It's running an emulator for a windows programming framework.
#5004 [23:22] <Product> weirdo: Try refreshing.
#5005 [23:22] <frogmella> doing it
#5006 [23:22] <weirdo> k
#5007 [23:22] <mib_5jv6ok> almostroot the error message popped back up again...
#5008 [23:22] <almostroot> mib_let1ay: Why do you want to delete Java?
#5009 [23:22] <Product> almostroot: So the .NET framework isn't competitable with the server.
#5010 [23:22] <Product> almostroot: Can we maybe install .NET framework to the server ?
#5011 [23:23] <almostroot> Product: That's what the mono thing is.
#5012 [23:23] <Product> almostroot: Oh, do you think it is possible to fix that error ?
#5013 [23:24] <almostroot> Product: It's out of my depth unless I learn .NET, lol.
#5014 [23:24] <almostroot> mib_let1ay: Follow these steps for me please:
#5015 [23:24] <almostroot> ??> mib_let1ay win/dxdiag
#5016 [23:24] <VoxelHead> mib_let1ay: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#5017 [23:24] <VoxelHead> mib_let1ay: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#5018 [23:24] <Product> almostroot: Oh :) Because some computers when you open .NET framework on them, they couldn't run it. Because they have to install .NET on their PC. (You know what I mean).
#5019 [23:25] <mib_5jv6ok> Hey since the error popped back up i just clicked on not now when it ask to update. Now its stuck at a green bar with doneloading above it
#5020 [23:25] <almostroot> Product: I do. It may require a different version than what is installed on there.
#5021 [23:25] <Product> almostroot: Oh :(
#5022 [23:25] <Product> almostroot: I'll search if there is MCLawl version for Mono, ok ?
#5023 [23:26] <almostroot> Product: Okay. The version installed is 2.10.2
#5024 [23:26] <Product> almostroot: Is this the error ? ** (MCLawl.exe:14110): WARNING **: exception inside UnhandledException handler: Object re
#5025 [23:26] <Product> ference not set to an instance of an object
#5026 [23:27] <mib_5jv6ok> Almostroot the error message came back up.
#5027 [23:27] <weirdo> Product & almostroot how do I refresh the page
#5028 [23:27] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Follow the steps above.
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#5030 [23:27] <almostroot> Product: "exception inside UnhandledException handler: Object reference not set to an instance of an object "
#5031 [23:27] <frogmella> There http://tinypic.com/r/2lmthsl/7
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#5033 [23:27] <Product> I think I may found something usefull: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668764
#5034 [23:27] <Scribbles> Hello?
#5035 [23:27] <mib_5jv6ok> in the chat?
#5036 [23:27] <Scribbles> I need some help with minecraft please
#5037 [23:28] <Product> scribbles: Hello
#5038 [23:28] <almostroot> Product: They are compiling moono from source, a working install is already on the server.
#5039 [23:28] <almostroot> ??> Scribbles ask
#5040 [23:28] <VoxelHead> Scribbles: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#5041 [23:28] <VoxelHead> Scribbles: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#5042 [23:28] <Product> almostroot: Oh ok :)
#5043 [23:28] <Scribbles> Ok
#5044 [23:28] <Scribbles> I have Minecraft on my mac
#5045 [23:28] <Product> frogmella: I'll check the picture.
#5046 [23:28] <frogmella> Ok Thank you
#5047 [23:29] <mib_5jv6ok> what steps above????????
#5048 [23:29] <almostroot> frogmella: Please check your JAva version.
#5049 [23:29] <almostroot> ??> frogmella java/version
#5050 [23:29] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#5051 [23:29] <Scribbles> And when i play i cant destroy or like collect any items and when i do it takes a really long time just for like sand!
#5052 [23:29] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#5053 [23:29] <frogmella> I did it is Java 6 23
#5054 [23:29] <almostroot> ??> mib_5jv6ok win/dxdiag
#5055 [23:29] <VoxelHead> mib_5jv6ok: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#5056 [23:29] <VoxelHead> mib_5jv6ok: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#5057 [23:29] <Product> Ok http://javatester.org/version.html try maybe this ?
#5058 [23:29] <almostroot> Scribbles: Are you playing on someone's server?
#5059 [23:29] <Product> 6 23, that's recommended.
#5060 [23:29] <Scribbles> No i am playing single player i am new
#5061 [23:29] <almostroot> Product: That is incorrect information.
#5062 [23:30] <Scribbles> just learning the rules and such
#5063 [23:30] <mib_5jv6ok> what the win key?
#5064 [23:30] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Are you running Windows?
#5065 [23:30] <mib_5jv6ok> yes
#5066 [23:30] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: The key with a picture of a window on it....
#5067 [23:30] <Product> almostroot: Oh, sorry .
#5068 [23:30] <mib_5jv6ok> oh well ok haha
#5069 [23:30] <weirdo> i wont work
#5070 [23:30] <Product> almostroot: I tough it was recommended version, sorry :)
#5071 [23:31] <frogmella> Oh I think i have found my problem
#5072 [23:31] <almostroot> frogmella: That is not the current version of java.
#5073 [23:31] <frogmella> it tells me i have more then one java program
#5074 [23:31] <Product> weirdo: What error message are you getting ?
#5075 [23:31] <almostroot> Try updating it.
#5076 [23:31] <frogmella> and 3 older version
#5077 [23:31] <Product> frommella: Try going to panel
#5078 [23:31] <almostroot> frogmella: There is a utility to fix that.
#5079 [23:31] <Product> and go to remove/add programs.
#5080 [23:31] <weirdo> the screen i completely black
#5081 [23:31] <almostroot> ??> frogmella win/javara
#5082 [23:31] <Product> And remove older versions of Java.
#5083 [23:31] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#5084 [23:31] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#5085 [23:31] <frogmella> I know i saw it Thank you I am now doing it
#5086 [23:32] <weirdo> it been like that for 15 minutes
#5087 [23:32] <frogmella> Thank you for help !
#5088 [23:32] <Scribbles> Does anyone know whats wrong i cant destory items on minecraft easily likee with just sand i am playing singleplayer
#5089 [23:32] <frogmella> Hope you can help other peopel ^^
#5090 [23:32] <Product> almostroot: Is it possible to run the server ? And then it crashes ?
#5091 [23:32] <almostroot> Scribbles: Hold down the button, don't jsut click it.
#5092 [23:32] <Scribbles> hum okay lemme try
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#5094 [23:33] <Product> frogmella: Good luck :)
#5095 [23:33] <Scribbles> almostroot i want to hug you
#5096 [23:33] <frogmella> Thank you :)
#5097 [23:33] <almostroot> Scribbles: Hah. Thanks.
#5098 [23:33] <almostroot> Scribbles: (Took me a while to figure that out too)
#5099 [23:33] <Scribbles> I got hacked versions because of that then i bought it and its all because im a dumb ass
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#5101 [23:34] <Scribbles> lol
#5102 [23:34] <Scribbles> well i have it so i can play multiplayer now
#5103 [23:34] <Scribbles> so i guess its a win win!
#5104 [23:34] <Scribbles> Thanks guys
#5105 [23:34] <mib_5jv6ok> it says pastebin.com is unavailable
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#5107 [23:34] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Works for me.
#5108 [23:35] <mib_5jv6ok> can i have link
#5109 [23:35] <weirdo> the screen i completely black it been like that for 15 minutes
#5110 [23:35] <Product> almostroot: Can this maybe help ? : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/835253
#5111 [23:35] <almostroot> Product: Try your server now please. May have gotten it working.
#5112 [23:35] <Product> weirdo: Try refreshing.
#5113 [23:35] <Product> almostroot: Thank you very very very much !!:) I'll try it.
#5114 [23:36] <almostroot> ??> mib_5jv6ok pastebin
#5115 [23:36] <VoxelHead> mib_5jv6ok: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you do, and we can see what you have pasted.
#5116 [23:36] <almostroot> Notch: -_-
#5117 [23:36] <moorent> find anything in that error log?
#5118 [23:36] <Notch> I lied :D
#5119 [23:37] <almostroot> moorent: I didn't. :/
#5120 [23:37] <moorent> hmm
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#5123 [23:37] <mib_5jv6ok> I clicked submit and it didn't give me a url
#5124 [23:37] <almostroot> You have the latest java version, plenty of memory and it looks like your startup command is good.
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#5126 [23:37] <Product> almostroot: I simply: LOVE YOU FOR YOUR GREAT HELP !!!:)
#5127 [23:37] <mib_5jv6ok> NVM found it lol
#5128 [23:38] <Product> almostroot: Thanks very much :)
#5129 [23:38] <mib_5jv6ok> http://pastebin.com/fi7LDm74
#5130 [23:38] <almostroot> Product: I jsut set it up in a screen session so it will stay running while you are not connected to the server.
#5131 [23:38] <Product> almostroot: Your the best guy that offers best help I've ever seen :)
#5132 [23:38] <almostroot> Product: To get to the console, log in as root, and type screen -r
#5133 [23:38] <Product> almostroot: Ok :)
#5134 [23:39] <almostroot> Product: When you're done, Hit CTRL+A then the D
#5135 [23:39] <mib_5jv6ok> Ok heres the linkl almostroot
#5136 [23:39] <mib_5jv6ok> http://pastebin.com/fi7LDm74
#5137 [23:39] <Product> almostroot: And I'll be able to start, restart, etc ?
#5138 [23:39] <Product> Ok :)
#5139 [23:39] <almostroot> Product: The miencraft server? Yes.
#5140 [23:39] <Product> What will CTRL+A then D do ?
#5141 [23:39] <almostroot> Product: Ctrl+A Tells the screen session to expect a command, d is the command to detach the screeen session, leaving it running and allowing you to disconnect
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#5143 [23:40] <mib_5jv6ok> what do i do with this link it gave me??
#5144 [23:40] <Product> almostroot: Ok thank you very much !:)
#5145 [23:40] <mib_5jv6ok> http://pastebin.com/fi7LDm74
#5146 [23:40] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Looks like you don't have enough memory to run Minecraft.
#5147 [23:40] <Product> I'll do that right now :)
#5148 [23:40] <almostroot> Product: Don't need to. Works as-is for now.
#5149 [23:40] <mib_5jv6ok> ok... so do i delete some stuff?
#5150 [23:41] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Memory is a hardware component of your computer. Minecraft honestly needs around 1.5GB, you only have 1GB.
#5151 [23:41] <mib_5jv6ok> So i can't play......
#5152 [23:41] <mib_5jv6ok> :(
#5153 [23:42] <Product> almostroot: When I login as root, I tpye -r ?
#5154 [23:42] <Product> type*
#5155 [23:42] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: There is one course of action to try.
#5156 [23:42] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Hold on a sec and I'll get the isntructions
#5157 [23:42] <almostroot> Product: screen -r
#5158 [23:42] <mib_5jv6ok> OK I WILL TRY ANYTHING
#5159 [23:42] <mib_5jv6ok> I really wanna play
#5160 [23:42] <Product> Ok :) Thanks
#5161 [23:42] <Product> I have got a black screen now.
#5162 [23:43] <Product> almostroot: Now I press CTRL+A then D ?
#5163 [23:43] <almostroot> Product: That's the console, waiting for commands.
#5164 [23:43] <Product> Oh
#5165 [23:43] <almostroot> Product: Yes.
#5166 [23:43] <Product> It worked.
#5167 [23:43] <Product> Thanks !!:)
#5168 [23:43] <Product> almostroot: Server will stay online now ?
#5169 [23:43] <almostroot> Product: Remind me not to offer to help someone install McLAwls again though, lol.
#5170 [23:43] <almostroot> Product: Should.
#5171 [23:43] <Product> almost: Lol :)
#5172 [23:44] <Product> almostroot: Lol, xD Thank you very much !:)
#5173 [23:44] <EntityReborn_> OHAI
#5174 [23:44] <EntityReborn_> I R YOUR INTERNETZ SPEAKINGZ
#5175 [23:44] <Product> almostroot: I want to just ask you if the server will stay online for like 24/7 ?
#5176 [23:44] <mib_5jv6ok> ...
#5177 [23:44] <Product> almostroot: Or will it dissconect from a while to while ?
#5178 [23:45] <almostroot> Product: Should be online 24/7
#5179 [23:45] <Product> almostroot: Ok thank you very much :)
#5180 [23:45] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: You ready for this? lol
#5181 [23:46] <mib_5jv6ok> Yes!!!!
#5182 [23:46] <mib_5jv6ok> is it alot?
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#5185 [23:47] <almostroot> Make a folder called Minecraft somewhere on your computer. Download the following and move it to that directory: http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
#5186 [23:47] <almostroot> Open TextEdit, and in there add this line without quotes: "java -Xmx768M -Xms256M -jar minecraft.jar" Then, save the file in the Minecraft folder, naming it minecraft.bat and change the File type to All files. Double-click minecraft.bat to try and run the game.
#5187 [23:48] <mib_5jv6ok> Ok i will
#5188 [23:49] <curmet> I bought minecraft and my account is still regular. I got the confirm purchase page and nothing has happened. I got it saturday night
#5189 [23:49] <mib_5jv6ok> Where is textedit?
#5190 [23:50] <EntityReborn_> curmet, give it a few hours
#5191 [23:50] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Let me revise that line.
#5192 [23:50] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Open Notepad, and in there add this line without quotes: "java -Xmx768M -Xms256M -jar minecraft.jar" Then, save the file in the Minecraft folder, naming it minecraft.bat and change the File type to All files. Double-click minecraft.bat to try and run the game.
#5193 [23:50] <almostroot> ??> curmet paymen
#5194 [23:50] <almostroot> ??> curmet payment
#5195 [23:50] <VoxelHead> curmet: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#5196 [23:50] <VoxelHead> curmet: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#5197 [23:51] <almostroot> curmet: Did you pay with a pre-paid credit card?
#5198 [23:51] <curmet> i paid with a visa debt card
#5199 [23:51] <curmet> debit*
#5200 [23:52] <almostroot> Contact the e-mail address above since it has been so long. Verify that your card was charged.
#5201 [23:52] <mib_5jv6ok> Alright i did all that... opened it black like box opened and so did the game...
#5202 [23:52] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Try running it...
#5203 [23:53] <mib_5jv6ok> update?
#5204 [23:53] <almostroot> Yup.
#5205 [23:53] <almostroot> And cross your fingers.
#5206 [23:53] <mib_5jv6ok> This is the last way?
#5207 [23:53] <mib_5jv6ok> O.O
#5208 [23:53] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Short of you upgrading your computer.
#5209 [23:54] <mib_5jv6ok> Alright.
#5210 [23:54] <mib_5jv6ok> I have a toshiba laptop at home to i could also try playing it on.
#5211 [23:56] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Also, you could try updating your graphics card drivers, but I don't know if that would help at this point. Use this link: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-275.33-whql-driver.html
#5212 [23:57] <Product> Ok, I'am back for helping guys :
#5213 [23:58] <mib_5jv6ok> OMFG IT WORKED THANK MAN ALOT!
#5214 [23:58] <mib_5jv6ok> it says enter a server....?
#5215 [23:58] <almostroot> mib_5jv6ok: Glad to hear it. Since it is working, go ahead and update the drivers.
#5216 [23:59] <almostroot> Your computer needs every little bit that it can.
#5217 [23:59] <mib_5jv6ok> OK
#5218 [23:59] <mib_5jv6ok> It says enter the ip of a server where can i get that?