#MinecraftHelp > 2011-07-01
#1 [00:00] <Ketsueki> justin: 'patching' what?
#2 [00:00] <Ketsueki> justin: you're not being specific enough
#3 [00:00] <Nano> By crashing, I mean just immediately closing down, NOT going to the crash screen.
#4 [00:00] <justin> Patching 1.7
#5 [00:00] <justin> + my minecraft doesn't work either so even if i dont patch it doesn't work
#6 [00:00] <gunther> got many mods?
#7 [00:00] <Ketsueki> justin: dunno, I haven't touched 1.7; what were you doing just before the problem? Pistons and redstone?
#8 [00:00] <Puddles> So I bought Minecraft a lil over half an hour ago, and Im trying to go onto a multiplayer server but I keep getting a message that says "Failed to connect to server. Connection timed out: connection" Am I doing something wrong or...?
#9 [00:00] <justin> k let me explain
#10 [00:01] <justin> I have mincraft and at launcher screen
#11 [00:01] <justin> i login in
#12 [00:01] <justin> minecraft closes
#13 [00:01] <Ketsueki> Puddles: you're not. Please wait about 3-7 days for the latest update to be adopted by those who are waiting for various upgrades to work with it.
#14 [00:01] <justin> after *trying to update*
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#16 [00:01] <Ketsueki> justin: what operating system? Windows?
#17 [00:02] <Kayla_> i can't see my characters arm anymore can someone help me
#18 [00:02] <Ketsueki> Puddles: Alternately look on the forums for known 1.7 servers
#19 [00:02] <Ketsueki> Kayla_: did you do anything to your character's skin on the website?
#20 [00:02] <justin> Mircosoft windows Xp
#21 [00:02] <Puddles> Ohh, ok thanks, thought somethin didnt go through. Much appreciated Ketsueki
#22 [00:03] <justin> Verison 2002
#23 [00:03] <Kayla_> no i was trying to figure out which button was fullscreen and it disappeared
#24 [00:03] <justin> Service pack 3
#25 [00:03] <Ketsueki> .. ??> justin win/reinst
#26 [00:03] <Nano> justin I like your style
#27 [00:03] <justin> win?
#28 [00:03] <Ketsueki> justin: before I give you these instructions; they will leave you stuck on 1.7. Do you have a backup copy of 1.6.6?
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#30 [00:04] <justin> yup
#31 [00:04] <Ketsueki> justin: good, follow the 'cleaning' spirit of these directions but replace it with your backup before running minecraft again.
#32 [00:04] <Ketsueki> ??> justin win/reinst
#33 [00:04] <VoxelHead> justin: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#34 [00:04] <VoxelHead> justin: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#36 [00:05] <justin> I did that and doesn't work Oh well i guess...
#37 [00:05] <Nano> I'm just gonna go ahead and ask again, Kay? My minecraft closes down COMPLETELY and without warning very frequently.
#38 [00:05] <Nano> No crash log, nothing.
#39 [00:06] <Ketsueki> justin: tell me your problem again? However first... going fullscreen in minecraft f-ed up my dual head desktop.
#40 [00:06] <Ketsueki> Nano: any other programs effected?
#41 [00:06] <Nano> No.
#42 [00:06] <justin> After launch minecraft it trys to auto update and then crashes
#43 [00:06] <mib_kfrw1c> when i dwnloaded it and then ran it ,,,bc the server isnt up i am getting a black screen , the host told me that i woul have to wait till the server is up or play on the old one
#44 [00:06] <Nano> Also, trying to come OUT (only out) of fullscreen freezes the game in a black screen.
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#46 [00:07] <rawrth> hello o-o?
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#48 [00:07] <gerzel> is this right? layer 0 is the top layer of bedrock. The coordinates showing with the f3 debug information are .6 of a block above the block you are standing on.
#49 [00:07] <Nano> Actually, disregard my comment on fullscreen, apparently it works now.
#50 [00:08] <Ketsueki> mib_kfrw1c: You're pretty much out of luck for a few days there... most of us are avoiding 1.7 since there is an update expected.
#51 [00:08] <NiteShad0w> can someone help me? i have this world and everytime i try to use it i get a saving chunks screen
#52 [00:08] <gerzel> 1.7 isn't that bad
#53 [00:08] <gerzel> I've not seen a bug yet
#54 [00:08] <gerzel> well other than the normal ones
#55 [00:08] <Ketsueki> gerzel: but none of our mods work on it and a new release is expected.
#56 [00:08] <Kayla_> <Ketsueki>: i restarted minecraft that fixed my no arm problem thanks for trying to help
#57 [00:09] <Ketsueki> Kayla_: great... that's what I was trying to reproduce when I broke my dual-screen config x.x
#58 [00:09] <rawrth> no matter how much i download mc, the .minecraft folder wont show up
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#62 [00:10] <frogonia> hello
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#64 [00:10] <Nano> Am I just outta luck?
#65 [00:10] <mib_kfrw1c> ketsueki i can play the old version right
#66 [00:11] <frogonia> does anyone have any suggestions on loading this game...it says to choose a program, and nothing works
#67 [00:12] <Ketsueki> frogonia: what operating system are you on? ALSO I'M now AFK for ~10 min
#68 [00:12] <Ekzaps> Hi, I have a question, why can't I play with the real launcher(from Mojang) , I get a black screen before the logo and I can play with an unofficial version
#69 [00:12] <frogonia> im on windows 7
#70 [00:12] <Ekzaps> I don't have any mods installed, reinstalled java, deleted .minecraft
#71 [00:12] <Ekzaps> I play since 1 year and since I bought it, I can't play
#72 [00:13] <Ketsueki> frogonia: download the .exe version of minecraft, try that.
#73 [00:14] <Nano> I'm going to start a BRAND NEW WORLD and use a stopwatch to time how long it takes to get my first crash.
#74 [00:14] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: did you update your graphics drivers, java, etc?
#75 [00:14] <Ekzaps> Yeah
#76 [00:15] <Ekzaps> I can play if I don't use the launcher..
#77 [00:15] <Ekzaps> It's that one that causes the black screen
#78 [00:15] <frogonia> ya
#79 [00:16] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: ok, just confirming you did pay for a minecraft account right?
#80 [00:16] <Ekzaps> (The one that you can see the informations~news)
#81 [00:16] <Ekzaps> Yeah , I bought it
#82 [00:16] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: no mods right?
#83 [00:16] <Ekzaps> No mods.
#84 [00:17] <Ketsueki> hum... frell, something's wrong with my GPU.
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#86 [00:18] <itchy_trigga_finga42> i keep getting the net.minecraft.MinecraftLauncher. error
#87 [00:18] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: I'll see what I can do after I cold boot my desktop. While I'm dangling like a lifeless puppet please follow these directions to gather some data for someone who can help you.
#88 [00:18] <Ketsueki> >>? Ekzaps win/dxdiag
#89 [00:18] <itchy_trigga_finga42> i got windows
#90 [00:19] <Ekzaps> Ok.
#91 [00:19] <Ketsueki> itchy_trigga_finga42: have you installed java from sun?
#92 [00:19] <Ketsueki> er, did it PM you directions Ekzaps ?
#93 [00:19] <Ketsueki> >>? Ketsueki index
#94 [00:19] <Ketsueki> ... geeze
#95 [00:19] <Ketsueki> ??> Ekzaps win/dxdiag
#96 [00:19] <VoxelHead> Ekzaps: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#97 [00:19] <VoxelHead> Ekzaps: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#98 [00:19] <Ketsueki> bbs
#99 [00:20] <itchy_trigga_finga42> i installed the newest java from java.com
#100 [00:22] <Ketsueki> itchy_trigga_finga42: you're going to need a batch file to use the java program. You need to put this inside of a file called anything.bat (minecraft.bat works nicely) in the same place that the .jar file is. java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame Actually you know what, don't do this; someone who has the URL for the nice directions please help itchy_trigga_finga42
#101 [00:22] <Ketsueki> BBS
#102 [00:24] <Ekzaps> http://pastebin.com/JUBzqqmf
#103 [00:25] <Ekzaps> but I can play when it's not the Mojang launcher... I don't think it's my computer that makes it crash
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#106 [00:28] <itchy_trigga_finga42> i could do it if I could get inside the files,but nothing else downloads exept the application and it wont let me in
#107 [00:29] <Ketsueki> itchy_trigga_finga42: if you download the .exe it should work
#108 [00:30] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: you have an AMD X700 GPU, you need better drivers for it.
#109 [00:30] <Ketsueki> ??> Ekzaps gpu/amd
#110 [00:30] <VoxelHead> Ekzaps: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#111 [00:31] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: you also have an issue with only having 1GB of ram... but there's an annoying to setup work-around for that which will make it run tollerably (not fast) with the lowest settings.
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#114 [00:32] <Ekzaps> Yeah but I don't have much lags...
#115 [00:32] <Ekzaps> except in browser, but I play with launcher normally
#116 [00:33] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: get a better GPU driver, I linked you via VoxelHead
#117 [00:36] <Ketsueki> bah Itchy you.... I just found the bloody link to the instructions I wanted you to do: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#118 [00:36] * Ketsueki knows, needs to vent
#118 [00:36] <Ekzaps> ehhh It's the same driver that I have...
#119 [00:37] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: guess what, the next step is downloading the .jar version of minecraft, and following http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2 so you can run it with the lowest possible settings (but turn on 'advanced open gl')
#120 [00:38] <Ekzaps> I'll try
#121 [00:41] <Ekzaps> thanks !!!!!!!!
#122 [00:42] <Ketsueki> You're welcome... and please invest in modern gaming hardware if you plan to run games x.x
#123 [00:42] <Ekzaps> Yeah yeah
#124 [00:42] <Ekzaps> I have this computer since 2003
#125 [00:42] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: actually you might want to hold out until Xmas, AMD's Bulldozer chips will be out by then; even if you insist on buying Intel at least those should be marked down a bit.
#126 [00:43] <Ekzaps> k
#127 [00:43] <Ekzaps> how much it will cost?
#128 [00:43] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: computers advance VERY rapidly; they are... still in rapid development. An 8 year old computer is like using an 80 year old car.
#129 [00:43] <Ekzaps> Yeah I know...
#130 [00:45] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: Depends; if you're buildign it your self an OEM license of windows costs around 180, and then you have a choice of budget (don't bother right now) parts of around 300 in hardware. Midrange of around 500, and 'nice' at around 750 in hardware. If you're ok with Linux you can drop the windows part. If you're insane you can spend massively more for a mere 10-25% more performance than the 'nice' system.
#131 [00:46] <Ekzaps> k thanks
#132 [00:46] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: if someone else is building it for you then to get the same quality you'd need to pay at /least/ 33% more.
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#134 [00:46] <Ekzaps> nah, I can build it
#135 [00:46] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: That's a questionably truthful statement, but just barely possible. Tell me what brand of thermal interface compound is your choice?
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#137 [00:47] <Ekzaps> it will be better than any i7 and x6?
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#139 [00:47] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: That figure is currently closely under NDA; I don't happen to know it, but even if I did I couldn't tell you. No one who can could and anyone who tries to is likely lying.
#140 [00:48] <Ketsueki> Ekzaps: However the current speculation is that the Bulldozer chips will be competing against everything but Intel's most insanely expensive chips. IF you're your willing to spend that much you'd get more bang for the buck over time spending half that now and then half again in 3 years.
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#142 [00:49] <sinedeviance> hi all
#143 [00:49] <Ekzaps> oh
#144 [00:49] <MrX> hi, regarding pistons, I've put two pistons next to each other which when extended would occupy the same block, and in that block, a lever, and hit it, since then I've been unable to connect to the server.. is this a possible map corruption or glitch or something
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#146 [00:49] <sinedeviance> i want to build a minecart station where the minecart stops for a second automatically to let a rider on or off, then automatically starts again. is this possible?
#147 [00:50] <mib_x5n1g5> Hey is anyone else getting a error upon start up
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#149 [00:50] <sinedeviance> mib_x5n1g5: update java to the latest version, then backup your /.minecraft/saves directory and delete /.minecraft then run the game again
#150 [00:50] <bob> hey, what if i DONT want to update to 1.7 i just wanna stat with 1.6.6
#151 [00:50] <sinedeviance> if that doesnt help we probably cant help you
#152 [00:51] <sinedeviance> bob: then dont update. the game will ask you.
#153 [00:51] <bob> it doesnt anymore
#154 [00:51] <bob> just updates
#155 [00:51] <sinedeviance> okay. you on windows?
#156 [00:51] <Ketsueki> mib_x5n1g5: quite possible.
#157 [00:51] <bob> yessir
#158 [00:52] <sinedeviance> bob: open up the following file in notepad: C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
#159 [00:52] <Ketsueki> sinedeviance: Possibly if you're willing to make them go up and then stop facing downward on a slope.
#160 [00:52] <sinedeviance> bob: add a line at the bottom that looks like this: minecraft.net 127.0.0.1
#161 [00:52] <mib_x5n1g5> Javas updated completely what do you suggest i do?
#162 [00:52] <sinedeviance> bob: this will keep the launcher from connecting to minecraft.net.
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#164 [00:52] <Ketsueki> sinedeviance: if you delete .minecraft it will NOT ask you; there's nothing in there to keep
#165 [00:52] <sinedeviance> Ketsueki: ah.
#166 [00:52] <bob> i just copy paste that to notepad right?
#167 [00:53] <sinedeviance> Ketsueki: two different people, two different problems.
#168 [00:53] <sinedeviance> Ketsueki: i didnt tell bob to delete .minecraft
#169 [00:53] <sinedeviance> Ketsueki: i told mib_x5n1g5 to do that.
#170 [00:53] <Ketsueki> @.@ oh nice
#171 [00:53] <sinedeviance> bob: add it like the example that is already there. dont forget to save the file!
#172 [00:53] <sockmister> Hey, I tried running Minecraft but it said it can't load because I have "Bad video card drivers" or something, is there anything I can do to run it?
#173 [00:54] <Ketsueki> MrX: about your pistons; I suggest restoring that mcr from a backup of your world.
#174 [00:54] <mib_x5n1g5> what would deleting .minecraft do?
#175 [00:54] <sinedeviance> sockmister: update your video card drivers. if that doesn't work, you're SOL.
#176 [00:54] <sinedeviance> mib_x5n1g5: force the client to re-download everything
#177 [00:54] <Ketsueki> ??> sockmister win/dxdiag
#178 [00:54] <VoxelHead> sockmister: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#179 [00:54] <VoxelHead> sockmister: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#180 [00:54] <sockmister> How do I update them, exactly?
#181 [00:54] <Ketsueki> sockmister: first you find out who made them; that's what dxdiag helps you with.
#182 [00:54] <MrX> thanks.. I will try, it's a decently used server though heh
#183 [00:55] <mib_x5n1g5> thanks just started working!
#184 [00:55] <sinedeviance> <Ketsueki> sinedeviance: Possibly if you're willing to make them go up and then stop facing downward on a slope. <- so no other way without using mods, then?
#185 [00:56] <___import__> What is the item value for pistons?
#186 [00:56] <___import__> and stickypistons?
#187 [00:56] <___import__> so I can /give myself it
#188 [00:56] <MrX> ah.. in single player the same setup goes to 'saving chunks
#189 [00:56] <MrX> :X
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#191 [00:57] <Ketsueki> sinedeviance: I do not know of one. I have /not/ experimented with pistons yet.
#192 [00:57] <sinedeviance> oooh pistons
#193 [00:57] <sinedeviance> i kinda forgot about those!
#194 [00:57] <sinedeviance> but uh ... seems they'd only be useful for switching tracks
#195 [00:58] <Ketsueki> MrX: if you can nab the files to local you can use an offline Editor (look on minecraftwiki.net) to DELETE the pistons you put in from that chunk.
#196 [00:59] <MrX> thanks again.. I will use that as a last resort, I don't think that will be getting done anytime soon with these server admins. I'll just hope that the next 1.7.x fixes this bug
#197 [00:59] <MrX> and I can connect again
#198 [01:01] <sockmister> Alright, Did all that, now I need to paste it in the IRC channel. What is that?
#199 [01:01] <sockmister> I'm a bit clueless to all of this.
#200 [01:02] <MrX> this is the IRC channel
#201 [01:02] <MrX> internet relay chat
#202 [01:02] <sockmister> Ah.
#203 [01:02] <sockmister> So I paste the link in here?
#204 [01:02] <MrX> the link, make sure it isn't the actual info
#205 [01:02] <MrX> :p
#206 [01:02] <bob> sinedaviance now it wont go past done loading. there is like a quarter of an inch left. its been like that
#207 [01:03] <sockmister> Nothing I'm worried about. Paste it?
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#209 [01:04] <MrX> guess so
#210 [01:04] <sockmister> http://pastebin.com/BLTg3Y87
#211 [01:06] <bob> when i tell minecraft not to update to 1.7 it wont go past done loading
#212 [01:06] <MrX> did you happen to close it while you were updating
#213 [01:07] <bob> nope.
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#215 [01:08] <bob> this person who owns the server i play on told me to To downgrade to 1.6.6, replace minecraft.jar with http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12027848/minecraft.jar located in Minecraft Launcher, Options, Game location on disk, bin
#216 [01:08] <bob> but first delete minecraft.jar
#217 [01:08] <bob> and now its all messed up
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#219 [01:09] <mib_dsn7ti> just re download the game
#220 [01:09] <mib_dsn7ti> from minecraft.net
#221 [01:09] <jamietech> Or force an update on the welcome screen
#222 [01:09] <jamietech> press options -> Force Update
#223 [01:09] <MrX> thats probably the best option
#224 [01:09] <Ketsueki> sockmister: ah thank you
#225 [01:09] <MrX> then you might try an actual downgrading tool
#226 [01:09] <sockmister> What did I do?
#227 [01:10] <Ketsueki> ??> sockmister gpu/intel
#228 [01:10] <bob> so im pretty screwed with playing on muh server?
#229 [01:10] <VoxelHead> sockmister: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#230 [01:10] <sockmister> Alright, Thank you.
#231 [01:10] <bob> okay i updated
#232 [01:10] <MrX> bob: after getting it to work again on 1.7 (doing whatever, re-downloading, updating) try this
#233 [01:10] <MrX> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-tool-cyborgs-tools-mcnostalgia-102/
#234 [01:10] <sockmister> This may seem strange but...I love you.
#235 [01:10] <MrX> i haven't tried it
#236 [01:10] <Ketsueki> sockmister: try updating your drivers for the Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family ; Good luck though as you're likely not going to top 10FPS even with the lowest possible settings.
#237 [01:10] <MrX> apparently might work
#238 [01:11] <sockmister> It's fine.
#239 [01:11] <sockmister> I can faceroll.
#240 [01:11] <sockmister> :)
#241 [01:11] <mib_dsn7ti> im a windows user, and whenever i run the downloaded version, i log in and then the screen goes to the option screen but with no options, then the screen goes to black and it crashes, i can still play if i dnt use my mods and texture packs but i wnt to use them, wat do i do?
#242 [01:12] <aetherian> 41d0:1:8d75::254 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :ohgod
#243 [01:12] <mib_dsn7ti> i tried redownloading, updating, and playing from the web browser version
#244 [01:12] <mib_dsn7ti> nothing works
#245 [01:13] <MrX> is this vanilla mib_dsn7ti
#246 [01:13] <mib_dsn7ti> wat?
#247 [01:13] <MrX> vanilla minecraft
#248 [01:13] <MrX> or modded
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#250 [01:14] <mib_dsn7ti> yes it is, but if i take off the mod it works
#251 [01:14] <MrX> so what do you think the problem is
#252 [01:14] <MrX> :p
#253 [01:14] <mib_dsn7ti> it only works without my mods and texture packs
#254 [01:14] <mib_dsn7ti> idk
#255 [01:14] <mib_dsn7ti> r u trying to help?
#256 [01:14] <MrX> the mod is causing some problems I'm guessing
#257 [01:15] <mib_dsn7ti> i think something important was deleted or my laptop is bugged
#258 [01:15] <mib_dsn7ti> its the single player commands
#259 [01:15] <Ketsueki> mib_dsn7ti: you're forgetting to delete the META-INFO folder inside of minecraft.jar Use 7-zip to go in and delete that.
#260 [01:15] <mib_dsn7ti> something almost everyoen has
#261 [01:15] <Ketsueki> mib_dsn7ti: *META-INF
#262 [01:15] <mib_dsn7ti> ok
#263 [01:16] <Ketsueki> mib_dsn7ti: geeze, RTFM and follow it... Every single mod I've ever seen seems to include that.
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#266 [01:17] <mib_dsn7ti> wats RTFM
#267 [01:18] <bob> when i go to unpatch it says error backup files are missing, deleting version run minecraft to re download the game
#268 [01:18] <MrX> read the f***ing manual
#269 [01:18] <mib_dsn7ti> there's a manuel?
#270 [01:19] <MrX> are you using this
#271 [01:19] <MrX> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/94310-166-single-player-commands-v29-1-new-update/
#272 [01:19] <Ketsueki> mib_dsn7ti: for your mod there'd better be a set of instructions
#273 [01:19] <MrX> '[1.6.6]'
#274 [01:19] <Ketsueki> Humm not working with 1.7 MIGHT be why I haven't upgraded yet... I don't expect any mods to for another week.
#275 [01:20] <sockmister> Which Graphics Driver would I download? TAR or RPM?
#276 [01:20] <bob> any tips on that mrx?
#277 [01:20] <MrX> sorry bob, no experience in the mod mate
#278 [01:20] <MrX> was just a suggestions
#279 [01:20] <MrX> did you follow all instructions
#280 [01:20] <bob> yaa.
#281 [01:20] <mib_dsn7ti> yes im using that mod
#282 [01:20] <MrX> where did you need to unpatch?
#283 [01:20] <Ketsueki> sockmister: You have your dist install it
#284 [01:20] <MrX> mib_dsn7ti: and 1.7?
#285 [01:21] <sockmister> Mhm...
#286 [01:21] <bob> i wanted to play on my server on 1.6.6
#287 [01:21] <bob> cause its an outdated server on 1,7
#288 [01:21] <MrX> yep
#289 [01:21] <Ketsueki> sockmister: in short; linux has distributions which have software repositories; find your distribution's proper way for using the binary drivers for your graphics card. It makes life SO much easier.
#290 [01:21] <mib_dsn7ti> i just need the compoatible version for 1.7 for the single player commands
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#292 [01:22] <bob> and i was a nub and donated to the server -.-
#293 [01:22] <MrX> but I figure patching makes it 1.6.6 and unpatching reverts it to 1.7
#294 [01:22] <Ketsueki> MrX: Not quite
#295 [01:22] <mib_dsn7ti> other way around MrX
#296 [01:22] <Ketsueki> MrX: applying a patch for a different version BREAKS minecraft
#297 [01:22] <jc> hey i join yesterday this channel looking for some help i cant run properly the game is to slow and i make a dxdialog save to show my info and see if anyone can tell me what is the problem itself http://pastebin.com/vubvQUhA
#298 [01:22] <MrX> using this specific mod?
#299 [01:22] <bob> ill just find a new server
#300 [01:23] <Ketsueki> MrX: the 'nostalga' thing from earlier might 'revert' the minecraft version and allow you to work with other mods though.
#301 [01:23] <Ketsueki> bob: or you could wait like until the weekend
#302 [01:23] <bob> MINECRAFTTTTT
#303 [01:23] <bob> MUST PLAYYYYY
#304 [01:23] <bob> ill wait.
#305 [01:23] <MrX> servers will update soon enough, though I don't recommend it right now since with pistons comes too many game-breaking bugs
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#307 [01:24] <MrX> especially in my case :'( hence why I'm not playing atm
#308 [01:24] <sockmister> Alright guys. I have no clue what you're talking about. I'm not that big on this stuff but I think whatever I clicked and I'm downloading now may work.
#309 [01:24] <bob> what happened?
#310 [01:24] <MrX> extended two pistons into the same block
#311 [01:24] <Ketsueki> bob: try installing that mcnostalga thing and reverting back... but this isn't a channel for supporting that.
#312 [01:24] <MrX> can no longer connect to that server
#313 [01:24] <bob> rofl.
#314 [01:24] <fawkes121> Hey guys... can someone help me?
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#316 [01:24] <Ketsueki> ??> fawkes121 ask
#317 [01:24] <VoxelHead> fawkes121: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#318 [01:24] <VoxelHead> fawkes121: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#319 [01:24] <Ketsueki> fawkes121: there ya go, helped.
#320 [01:25] <fawkes121> i just downgraded to 1.6.6 after getting 1.7, cuz of my server... i have a mac... now it keeps timing out when i try to log in.
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#322 [01:25] <jc> minecraft is runnning slow on my laptop anyone knows an issue about that
#323 [01:25] <Rootbeer2468> Hey Guys
#324 [01:25] <jc> i heard that minecraft runs more slowert on laptops than in desktop pcs
#325 [01:26] <Ketsueki> fawkes121: sorry I can't help you with that (no exp and do not want to gain it)
#326 [01:26] <MrX> fawkes121: its possible you might have the same problem as me
#327 [01:26] <Rootbeer2468> What version of java do you have Jc
#328 [01:26] <Rootbeer2468> ?
#329 [01:26] <jc> i just upgrade
#330 [01:26] <jc> java
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#332 [01:26] <jc> yesterday
#333 [01:26] <jc> how can i check it
#334 [01:26] <MrX> fawkes121: its possible someone has screwed something up with pistons -> i did on my server, and can't connect
#335 [01:26] <Rootbeer2468> Oh, Well can you do dxdiag for me?
#336 [01:27] <jc> sure
#337 [01:27] <MrX> oh oh, sorry, disregard that
#338 [01:27] <Rootbeer2468> and post it on pastbin
#339 [01:27] <jc> m going to give you the link
#340 [01:27] <MrX> not taking in all information
#341 [01:27] <Rootbeer2468> Alright
#342 [01:27] <Ketsueki> jc: more or less it can't be helped. Minecraft is a modern game which expects higher end hardware. Laptops quite simply are targeted at buisness desktop users; or try to cram what they can in to a small space and thermal budget (gaming laptops often fail to meet said thermal budget and are unstable)
#343 [01:27] <jc> http://pastebin.com/vubvQUhA
#344 [01:27] <Rootbeer2468> Could it be his graphics card?
#345 [01:28] <jc> i think it is]
#346 [01:28] <fawkes121> does anyone know where else to look for help?
#347 [01:28] <jc> i have an integrated intel graphic card
#348 [01:28] <Ketsueki> jc: your laptop has enough ram, and barely enough CPU. Your graphics card however... is pretty pathetic. Try turning minecraft down to the most MINIMAL settings possible.
#349 [01:28] <MrX> fawkes121: does it go to the 'log in' thing
#350 [01:28] <fawkes121> no
#351 [01:28] <MrX> are you sure the server is up
#352 [01:28] <fawkes121> just "connecting to server"
#353 [01:28] <MrX> have you typed it 100% correct including port
#354 [01:28] <fawkes121> yeah its up
#355 [01:28] <fawkes121> yes
#356 [01:28] <MrX> mm
#357 [01:29] <Ketsueki> jc: you pretty much have a nice 2d framebuffer and almost no 3d guts.
#358 [01:29] <MrX> can others connect
#359 [01:29] <sockmister> This is ridiculously confusing me. I have no clue how I update my graphics card or whatever, if anyone of you could explain it to me like you're talking to a 5 year old about it, that would help so much, If not it may be easier if I just quit all together...
#360 [01:29] <Rootbeer2468> JC do you have Nvidia?
#361 [01:29] <Ketsueki> Rootbeer2468: 20110630-22:27:19 < jc> http://pastebin.com/vubvQUhA
#362 [01:29] <jc> naa i have integrated card
#363 [01:29] <jc> is an hp laptop
#364 [01:30] <Rootbeer2468> Oh,
#365 [01:30] <Ketsueki> jc: you're more or less hosed; that laptop was never intended for games. Anything you can get out of it you'll be lucky to have gotten.
#366 [01:30] <jc> i think
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#368 [01:30] <jc> that is all the problem but i want the info
#369 [01:30] <frogonia> hey
#370 [01:30] <frogonia> can i have some help
#371 [01:30] <frogonia> how do i update my server to 1.7?
#372 [01:30] <MrX> sockmister: try googling 'update graphics drivers linux' or something
#373 [01:30] <Ketsueki> ??> jc gpu/intel
#374 [01:30] <VoxelHead> jc: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
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#376 [01:31] <Ketsueki> frogonia: stop the server, download the new .jar for the server, run said jar.
#377 [01:31] <Ketsueki> frogonia: I /highly/ suggest waiting for 1.7.2 though
#378 [01:31] <frogonia> okay
#379 [01:31] <frogonia> ty
#380 [01:31] <Ketsueki> sockmister: WHICH linux do you have?
#381 [01:31] <Rootbeer2468> Yeah jc, that computer wasn't meant for games.
#382 [01:31] <jc> VoxelHead: ok m going to give it a show thanks a lot guys
#383 [01:31] <frogonia> the server is just for me and a friend
#384 [01:31] <frogonia> Ketsueki i use it for me and my friend
#385 [01:31] <frogonia> not a big server
#386 [01:31] <frogonia> no plugins
#387 [01:31] <Ketsueki> jc: VoxelHead is a bot; but I'm sure it's owner hanks you.
#388 [01:31] <sockmister> Linux. Let me look for it...
#389 [01:32] <Rootbeer2468> Np glad we could help JC
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#391 [01:32] <Ketsueki> sockmister: yes, there are a vast variety of linux flavors. You've just told me you got an ice cream from a shop, but not what flavor.
#392 [01:32] <jc> Rootbeer2468: yeah i think so anyways i think i have to keep playing minecraft on my work computer with linux for a while
#393 [01:32] <mib_mm10of> Hey I have a problem
#394 [01:32] <frogonia> hey ketsueki the server is just for 2 people no plguins so thats good :D
#395 [01:32] <frogonia> and ty
#396 [01:32] <Rootbeer2468> Whats the problem
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#398 [01:32] <Ketsueki> frogonia: it's pretty easy, whatever you did to set it up to begin with, do it again.
#399 [01:33] <frogonia> well its my friends hosting it not me
#400 [01:33] <frogonia> but i said i would help him
#401 [01:33] <mib_mm10of> I open up minecraft and it does the mojang screen but then its black
#402 [01:33] <frogonia> also
#403 [01:33] <Ketsueki> frogonia: that's how you help them.
#404 [01:33] <frogonia> when is adventure mode coming :D
#405 [01:33] <mib_mm10of> And nothing happens
#406 [01:33] <Ketsueki> mib_mm10of: windows?
#407 [01:33] <Rootbeer2468> Hey anybody know when Almostroot got off?
#408 [01:33] <sockmister> Well now. How the hell do I find out which Ice Cream I have? In my system information or what?
#409 [01:33] <Ketsueki> Rootbeer2468: that's a very rude question ;p
#410 [01:34] <MrX> umm..
#411 [01:34] <mib_mm10of> So I tried reinstalled minecraft and nothing happened
#412 [01:34] <Rootbeer2468> May i ask how its rude? -_-
#413 [01:34] <MrX> sockmister: that was your pastebin right
#414 [01:34] <frogonia> tyty bie
#415 [01:34] <mib_mm10of> Can someone help?
#416 [01:34] <sockmister> Yeah. Pastebin, Is it in there?
#417 [01:34] <eddy623> keep getting "fatal error occured (4): users/********/library/application support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar"
#418 [01:34] <MrX> sockmister: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
#419 [01:35] <MrX> pretty sure thats windows, not linux. wonder who got confused where
#420 [01:35] <sockmister> Me. I'll bet nothing it.
#421 [01:35] <Ketsueki> sockmister: hum... let's try a trick. Can you get a terminal open any kind of terminal, console, konsole, whatever. In that run uname -r and tell me what the whole words are. mine says 2.6.38-gentoo-r5 so that's gentoo that I want from you, or hum, well arch-linux is a bit more cryptic.
#422 [01:35] <MrX> Ketsueki: his pastebin shows windows
#423 [01:36] <Ketsueki> MrX: wha?
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#425 [01:36] <MrX> http://pastebin.com/BLTg3Y87
#426 [01:36] <Ketsueki> sockmister: I thought you said you had linux; that's windows XP and...
#427 [01:37] <Ketsueki> 20110630-22:10:02 < Ketsueki> ??> sockmister gpu/intel
#428 [01:37] <Ketsueki> 20110630-22:10:03 <@VoxelHead> sockmister: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#429 [01:37] <sockmister> I don't remember saying I had Linux. Maybe that came up when I searched in download center.
#430 [01:37] <Ketsueki> 20110630-22:30:38 < MrX> sockmister: try googling 'update graphics drivers linux' or something
#431 [01:37] <Ketsueki> That's where I saw it, what made you state it?
#432 [01:38] <sockmister> In download center.
#433 [01:38] <sockmister> I typed :Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family
#434 [01:38] <MrX> this, Ketsueki
#435 [01:38] <MrX> Ketsueki sockmister: in short; linux has distributions which have software repositories; find your distribution's proper way for using the binary drivers for your graphics card. It makes life SO much easier.
#436 [01:38] <MrX> lol
#437 [01:38] <sockmister> It came up with 2 linux downloads.
#438 [01:38] <Ketsueki> sockmister: you want /windows/ downloads
#439 [01:38] <MrX> i think you got confused when he didn't talk for a while
#440 [01:38] <sockmister> Mhm.
#441 [01:39] <sockmister> So I search "Windows"?
#442 [01:39] <eddy623> keep getting "fatal error occured (4): users/********/library/application support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar" WTH do i do?
#443 [01:39] <Ketsueki> sockmister: you put the info I told you in to the search box... Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family
#444 [01:39] <sockmister> Mhm.
#445 [01:39] <sockmister> Yes.
#446 [01:40] <sockmister> I put "Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family" in the box.
#447 [01:40] <Ketsueki> sockmister: has win XP so... http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16835&keyword=%22Mobile+Intel(R)+945GM+Express+Chipset+Family%22&lang=eng
#448 [01:40] <sockmister> So I download that? ^
#449 [01:40] <Ketsueki> yeah
#450 [01:40] <sockmister> Alright.
#451 [01:41] <MrX> if anything will help it's that
#452 [01:41] <Azu> ...are you on an inspiron laptop
#453 [01:41] <MrX> not the greatest graphics though
#454 [01:41] <Ketsueki> sockmister: that plus the lowest possible settings might make it run like a sloth
#455 [01:41] <Ketsueki> Instead of not at all
#456 [01:41] <sockmister> Alright.
#457 [01:41] <Azu> I think I had a laptop with that 'express chipset family'
#458 [01:42] <Ketsueki> Azu: yess. read that as 'no games allowed'
#459 [01:42] <Azu> tried installing TF2 on it once
#460 [01:42] <Azu> it wouldn't get past the intro screen
#461 [01:42] <sockmister> This is my Old Work computer. I sat on my new one. >.>
#462 [01:42] <sockmister> Yeah...
#463 [01:42] <Azu> which it stayed at for five seconds
#464 [01:42] <Azu> and then bluescreened the computer
#465 [01:42] <MrX> I still have a laptop with express chipset blah.. it runs solitaire
#466 [01:42] <MrX> ;)
#467 [01:42] <sockmister> Bluescreen's are actually very pretty.
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#469 [01:43] <Ketsueki> Ever seen a purple screen? I hear they're awesome.
#470 [01:43] <sockmister> It sounds awsome. O.O
#471 [01:43] <sockmister> Oh, My computer runs pretty well though.
#472 [01:43] <troubled> Hi, I'm a new player who's only getting a black screen after signing in to the aluncher. Any ideas on the cause?
#473 [01:43] <Ketsueki> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=purple+screen+of+death
#474 [01:43] <sockmister> I play World of Warcraft.
#475 [01:43] <sockmister> No lag.
#476 [01:44] <troubled> launcher* damn, my grammar's atrocious tonight. >.<
#477 [01:44] <Ketsueki> http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/vistas-purple-screen-of-death/
#478 [01:45] <sockmister> I downloaded the thing from the link, it says: Error : The driver being installed is not validated for this computer. Please obtain the appropriate driver from the computer's manufacturer.
#479 [01:45] <sockmister> >:I
#480 [01:45] <almostroot> sockmister: What graphics card/OS do you have?
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#482 [01:46] <Velasa> hey, did they change something about what haoppens to your stuff when you die?
#483 [01:46] <sockmister> God...I have no idea. Would that be in the Pastebin?
#484 [01:46] <Ketsueki> sockmister: WoW, for all it's updates, is actually NOT a 'modern game' in that it's specificially targeted to run on the oldest crap first, and then optional shiny upgrades to things can be added in. Minecraft however is literally like laying out a world-sized game of lego blocks; and there's NO getting around things with textures since you still have to have that many million surfaces all textured somehow.
#485 [01:46] <Velasa> because I found the place I fell, and it's been less than an in-game day, but.. ntohing;s there
#486 [01:47] <Ketsueki> sockmister: is it windows saying it doesn't have WHQL or MS signing? IGNORE THAT
#487 [01:47] <Velasa> I wanted my shit back ._. but it;'s missing
#488 [01:47] <Ketsueki> sockmister: it's OK to ignore that because you got it from Intel.
#489 [01:48] <sockmister> I'm confused. Let me try playing Minecraft again.
#490 [01:48] <sockmister> T.T
#491 [01:48] <Ketsueki> almostroot: it's already covered, he's got a laptop with enough ram, a tollerable (but not spiffy) CPU... and a GMA 945
#492 [01:48] <Velasa> does anybody know?
#493 [01:49] <sockmister> Alright, it gave me the error.
#494 [01:49] <Ketsueki> Velasa: did you close minecraft at all?
#495 [01:49] <Velasa> no.
#496 [01:49] <sockmister> Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.7_01 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.6.0_26, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)]
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#498 [01:49] <Ketsueki> Velasa: did it burn up in a fire?
#499 [01:49] <Velasa> it said I died, I went directly abck in and beelined to where i fell
#500 [01:49] <Ketsueki> Velasa: or spike on a cacti?
#501 [01:49] <Velasa> no, it was trees and grass.
#502 [01:50] <Ketsueki> Velasa: sorry, dunno what to say if it's not there...
#503 [01:50] <Velasa> the only trhing I did was adjust the view to look farther so I could find teh skyway easier
#504 [01:50] <Ketsueki> sockmister: from GreyVulpine http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#505 [01:50] <troubled> okay, is the install file supposed to just give you save file, and then it runs? because if so, it's not even giving me the Mojang page, just bsod after logging in.
#506 [01:51] <Ketsueki> sockmister: oh crap, did you do anything with pistons before it died?
#507 [01:51] <sockmister> No.
#508 [01:51] <Ketsueki> sockmister: ok, follow the pastebin then
#509 [01:52] <sockmister> Alright. Thanks.
#510 [01:53] <Velasa> well.. sadness I guess.
#511 [01:54] <Velasa> the other question i have is how the heck can you use leaf blocks to decorate when they rot.
#512 [01:54] <Velasa> I don't understand the purpose of harvesting them if you can't use the,
#513 [01:55] <Ketsueki> Velasa: that is an excellent question. Can you burn them in a furnace?
#514 [01:55] <Velasa> I haven't tried because I have a box full of coal >_:
#515 [01:55] <Velasa> I wanted them for pretties
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#517 [01:56] <Velasa> actually died with my whole stash I;'d spent the hour gathering -_-
#518 [01:56] <Harley> hey how come when you use pistons on a server it crashers how do you fix it?
#519 [01:57] <Ketsueki> Harley: pistons break hard easily; total fail must remove the piston from the map and reload.
#520 [01:57] <Harley> oh
#521 [01:57] <Harley> will it be fixed
#522 [01:58] <Ketsueki> (Yes, I can hear you asking how do you change the minecraft world without being in minecraft; level editors... if you have that kind of access to the world files)
#523 [01:58] <Ketsueki> Harley: very likely; but not very quickly.. MAYBE with the expected 1.7.2
#524 [01:58] <Harley> when will that come out
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#526 [01:59] <Ketsueki> Harley: it's scheduled for today; for what that's worth.
#527 [01:59] <Harley> ok
#528 [01:59] <Ketsueki> It's a bit like saying the baby's due in 12 hours
#529 [01:59] <Harley> is there a way to disable pistons
#530 [01:59] <Harley> on your server for the timebeing
#531 [01:59] <Ketsueki> Short answer: no
#532 [02:01] <Ketsueki> Harley: medium answer: how do you disable the use of TNT
#533 [02:01] <troubled> hello?
#534 [02:02] <Ketsueki> troubled: windows?
#535 [02:03] <troubled> WindowsXP. Oddly enough, if I run the Linux version, it runs for a while, then crashes from running out of memory.
#536 [02:04] <Ketsueki> ??> troubled win/dxdiag
#537 [02:04] <VoxelHead> troubled: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#538 [02:04] <VoxelHead> troubled: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#539 [02:05] <Ketsueki> troubled: linux version you can fix with different -Xmx and -Xms values. I'll give you some advice after seeing your specs in the dxdiag
#540 [02:06] <Ketsueki> Also this is the last help I'll be providing tonight. It's getting late and I need sleep
#541 [02:06] <Harley> http://pastebin.com/ByKZYuqG
#542 [02:06] <Harley> read this
#543 [02:06] <sockmister> Alright Ketsueki, I did the Pastebin thing, but for the last one, "Next, in the minecraft/bin/natives folder, just move all the files from the zip's "native" folder over.", Does that mean move all the files out of the natives folder and in to the Bin folder
#544 [02:06] <Harley> how do i fix it
#545 [02:07] <Ketsueki> Harley: you wait for the fixed server build
#546 [02:07] <Harley> im with redstonehosting
#547 [02:07] <troubled> here's the DxDiag link: http://pastebin.com/NK3HxkDW
#548 [02:08] <troubled> thank you for taking time. I hope it isn't rushing you or anything ^^;
#549 [02:08] <Ketsueki> sockmister: You take the stuff from the newly downloaded libgl thing and you replace the stuff in the minecraft folder by the same name with the listed stuff. It's literally over-write A (version that came with minecraft) with A (version you just got)
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#551 [02:08] <Ketsueki> Harley: if you NEED it fixed now you remove your pistons one way or another and don't use them until there's a fixed server.
#552 [02:09] <Ketsueki> Think of this as someone who did a TNT attack that nuked everythign you care about and react accordingly.
#553 [02:09] <sockmister> Nevermind, i got it.
#554 [02:09] <Harley> yeah the problem is when people join my server makes them admins and they spawn pistons
#555 [02:09] <Harley> i deleted the world with them and its still doing it
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#557 [02:10] <Ketsueki> troubled: ok, you only have 1GB of ram, so this is going to be tough. your GPU is very old and weak, but at least it's dedicated. Get the latest windows driver from here...
#558 [02:10] <Ketsueki> ??> troubled gpu/amd
#559 [02:10] <VoxelHead> troubled: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#560 [02:10] <Ketsueki> troubled: you have an X300 gpu and your OS is Win XP 32 bit
#561 [02:10] <sockmister> I followed the Instructions at http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0 , Still not working though...
#562 [02:11] <troubled> thanks so much! I knew the ram might've been an issue. time to update drivers...
#563 [02:11] <Wug> kealper
#564 [02:11] <Wug> you there? it looms like not
#565 [02:11] <Ketsueki> troubled: after installing the new GPU drivers this is the type of thing you need to do under windows; you should use similar settigns under linux. http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2 You MIGHT be able to limp along on lowest settings for everything EXCEPT turn on 'use advanced open gl'
#566 [02:12] <Ketsueki> sockmister: did you install the updated Intel GPU drivers and click the Ingore do it anyway option for the windows WHQL/driver signing thing? I don't recall you having rebooted...
#567 [02:13] <sockmister> Oh, Damnit...
#568 [02:13] <sockmister> No I didn;t.
#569 [02:13] <sockmister> didn't*
#570 [02:13] <Ketsueki> ??> sockmister gpu/intel
#571 [02:13] <VoxelHead> sockmister: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#572 [02:13] <Ketsueki> 20110630-22:40:02 < Ketsueki> sockmister: has win XP so... http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16835&keyword=%22Mobile+Intel(R)+945GM+Express+Chipset+Family%22&lang=eng
#573 [02:16] <sockmister> Alright, In the box the Make of my computer is Intel Centrino. Is that what I should type.
#574 [02:16] <Ketsueki> sockmister: Intel 945GM mobile express
#575 [02:17] <sockmister> Alright, What product do I choose?
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#577 [02:18] <onix> help
#578 [02:19] <Ketsueki> sockmister: Just go to my bigger link.
#579 [02:23] <sockmister> It won't let me download it...I give up. Thanks for the help anyway.
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#583 [02:25] <pheleas_frog> could anyyyyyy one help when i go to load the game (outdated version which is free0 it comes up with error code 7 and a load of other vajazzle in red writting can any one help
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#589 [02:29] <adam> Can anybody help me? my minecraft wont update, it stops at "downloading packages". i have no .minecraft folder so thats not the problem, and my firewall/virus software didnt block it
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#595 [02:56] <self_slaughter> how long do payments normally take to clear on mastercard? if it's going to be a couple of days i'll just go with paypal instead
#596 [02:57] <self_slaughter> gunna buy my son a gift code so he can play online with me :P
#597 [03:00] <self_slaughter> nevermind just gunna go paypal and play it safe
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#601 [03:12] <RandomPerson> hi there i have problem can someone help me ?
#602 [03:13] <Adamon> Just ask your question.
#603 [03:13] <Adamon> If we can help, we will.
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#608 [03:24] <ferdinand> I am trying to run Minecraft on Linux (Ubuntu) but when i try the downloaded version, it lets me log in then crashes. I have tried the in-browser version and that leaves me with a white screen. please help
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#611 [03:31] <koolcam3> can someone help me? i updated to 1.7 and now when i try to run my multiplayer server and connect to it it just says its connecting to the server for a while and then times out. what's going on?
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#613 [03:32] <rev-lemon> koolcam3 its the server that hasnt been updated to the latest server file you will have to wait it out
#614 [03:33] <koolcam3> ok, any idea of when itll be updated? and will my server file be messed up when i try to play on it later?
#615 [03:33] <rev-lemon> just keep trying
#616 [03:34] <ferdinand> anyone have any ideas about my mc crashing continuously on Linux?
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#620 [03:38] <username> Hello
#621 [03:38] <username> Can i get some help
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#625 [03:53] <mattskeeee> hello ?
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#627 [03:54] <mattskeeee> hello
#628 [03:55] <mattskeeee> hhello ?
#629 [03:56] <jamietech> hello mattskeeee
#630 [03:56] <jamietech> what do you need help with?
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#632 [03:57] <mattskeeee> hello
#633 [03:57] <mattskeeee> okay
#634 [03:57] <jamietech> hi
#635 [03:57] <mattskeeee> i just reinstalled the operating system and i cant run minecraft
#636 [03:57] <jamietech> any errors?
#637 [03:57] <mattskeeee> and i was wondering what i need to download to get it to rujn
#638 [03:57] <mattskeeee> yeh there is
#639 [03:58] <jamietech> a) did you download java?
#640 [03:58] <mattskeeee> yeh
#641 [03:58] <mattskeeee> this is the error
#642 [03:58] <mattskeeee> Bad video card drivers!
#643 [03:58] <mattskeeee> and iother shit
#644 [03:58] <jamietech> hmm
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#646 [03:58] <mattskeeee> ther rest wont copy
#647 [03:58] <jamietech> maybe you should update your video card drivers
#648 [03:58] <mattskeeee> how do you do that :\
#649 [03:59] <mattskeeee> it workedbefore though?
#650 [03:59] <mattskeeee> all i did was upgrade too window 7
#651 [03:59] <jamietech> mattskeeee: http://tinyurl.com/m5bhw2
#652 [03:59] <mib_b1zi94> i just bought the game and dowloaded the offline client but it said user not premium when i logged in at the offline client
#653 [04:00] <mewanttaco> what?
#654 [04:02] <jamietech> mewanttaco: if the computer doesnt have internet you won't be a "premium" user
#655 [04:02] <jamietech> "
#656 [04:02] <jamietech> "premium" lets you play multiplayer
#657 [04:02] <mewanttaco> i am on internet and tied on internet
#658 [04:02] <jamietech> well im off bye
#659 [04:03] <mewanttaco> what do i do?
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#661 [04:04] <OurLeaf> Aaaaahh
#662 [04:04] <OurLeaf> Grey
#663 [04:04] <OurLeaf> Remember me?
#664 [04:05] <OurLeaf> My brother did something that resulted in the same thing
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#666 [04:05] <mewanttaco> what did he do?
#667 [04:05] <OurLeaf> blue screen
#668 [04:05] <OurLeaf> idk
#669 [04:05] <mewanttaco> oh
#670 [04:05] <OurLeaf> Something about glowstone and pistons
#671 [04:05] <OurLeaf> crashing into eachother when they were out
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#673 [04:06] <OurLeaf> GreyVulpine
#674 [04:06] <OurLeaf> Know anything to fix blue screen?
#675 [04:07] <OurLeaf> *I should've made a backupsave right after the first bug*
#676 [04:07] <OurLeaf> Brekkfust...
#677 [04:07] <OurLeaf> Breakfast*
#678 [04:08] <bloodygun> bonjour, après avoir télécharger java je lance minecraft et un écran noir se met en place. pouvez vous m'aider ??
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#681 [04:10] <bloodygun> bonjour, après avoir télécharger java je lance minecraft et un écrans noir se met en place.Pouvez vous m'aider ?
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#686 [04:14] <cod1760> I purchased a gift card code for my sons bithday today and it is not loading?
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#688 [04:17] <bugweiser> i can never update the updatesmy laptop takes hours and hours for it to go like 20%
#689 [04:24] <OurLeaf> GreyVulpine?
#690 [04:24] <OurLeaf> You there?
#691 [04:24] <OurLeaf> *I'm here*
#692 [04:24] <jamietech> OurLeaf: wat
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#694 [04:24] <OurLeaf> My brother destroyed my worldsave
#695 [04:24] <OurLeaf> turned blue
#696 [04:24] <OurLeaf> And I can't move
#697 [04:25] <[L]> what
#698 [04:25] <OurLeaf> Something with pistons and glowstone
#699 [04:25] <OurLeaf> read ovah :3
#700 [04:25] <OurLeaf> ._.''
#701 [04:26] <OurLeaf> Got any tips?
#702 [04:26] <OurLeaf> Or things that can fix it
#703 [04:26] <OurLeaf> I got one bug like that when I tried to push a redstone torch
#704 [04:26] <OurLeaf> but that got fixed
#705 [04:27] <OurLeaf> I don't know if this is gonna get fixd
#706 [04:27] <bugweiser> :(
#707 [04:29] <OurLeaf> :(
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#709 [04:31] <OurLeaf> Will it fix if I update to a future update
#710 [04:31] <OurLeaf> like 1.7_02 or something
#711 [04:31] <OurLeaf> ???
#712 [04:31] <OurLeaf> :S
#713 [04:31] <OurLeaf> Thanks for answering...
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#715 [04:33] <misternomercy> hi
#716 [04:33] <misternomercy> Is someone here"
#717 [04:33] <misternomercy> ????
#718 [04:33] <misternomercy> ¿¿¿¿¿
#719 [04:33] <OurLeaf> Just me
#720 [04:33] <misternomercy> ¡¡
#721 [04:33] <OurLeaf> But
#722 [04:33] <misternomercy> i gotta question
#723 [04:34] <OurLeaf> maybe some others are afk
#724 [04:34] <OurLeaf> huh?
#725 [04:34] <OurLeaf> I'm not so good with minecraft tho
#726 [04:34] <misternomercy> when i play minecraft, when i join a server i get Failed to verify username
#727 [04:34] <misternomercy> I bought it
#728 [04:34] <OurLeaf> hmmm
#729 [04:34] <OurLeaf> Try to retype the username and password
#730 [04:34] <misternomercy> k
#731 [04:34] <OurLeaf> did you choose 'play offline' ?
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#733 [04:34] <misternomercy> No
#734 [04:34] <OurLeaf> hmm
#735 [04:35] <OurLeaf> have you been on the server before?
#736 [04:35] <Roop> why does my computer crash after playing single player after about 15 mins. but not at all when playing multiplayer?
#737 [04:35] <misternomercy> No
#738 [04:35] <OurLeaf> hm
#739 [04:36] <OurLeaf> is this on all servers that you try to log into?
#740 [04:36] <OurLeaf> Or just this one
#741 [04:36] <misternomercy> eah
#742 [04:36] <misternomercy> yeah
#743 [04:36] <misternomercy> all
#744 [04:36] <OurLeaf> hmm
#745 [04:36] <OurLeaf> well
#746 [04:36] <OurLeaf> idk ...
#747 [04:37] <OurLeaf> :D
#748 [04:37] <OurLeaf> I'm not so good with minecraft
#749 [04:37] <OurLeaf> and the ops are afk
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#754 [04:47] <PlyAlex> Is there a major memory leak issue?
#755 [04:47] <PlyAlex> Cause I'm running out of memory every 1 minute
#756 [04:47] <PlyAlex> and it closes it self
#757 [04:47] <PlyAlex> its using up to a gb of ram just for java
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#760 [04:48] <flabbergaster> I just bought mine craft and its not working can anyone help me please
#761 [04:49] <PlyAlex> Whats not working?
#762 [04:49] <TheNytangel`> It takes up to 24 hours to process the payment
#763 [04:49] <flabbergaster> when i load the game it says fatal error (4)
#764 [04:49] <flabbergaster> have tried to redownload it but the page does not load
#765 [04:50] <flabbergaster> my payment has been processed
#766 [04:51] <flabbergaster> anyone
#767 [04:53] <PlyAlex> Have you tried disabling your Anti Virus
#768 [04:53] <flabbergaster> yes
#769 [04:53] <flabbergaster> what is s3.amazonaws.com.
#770 [04:53] <flabbergaster> it says that too
#771 [04:54] <flabbergaster> thats the page i try and redownload it from and it does not load
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#773 [04:54] <PlyAlex> does it work in th ein browser version?
#774 [04:54] <TheNytangel> I'm going back to bed for a couple hours..
#775 [04:55] <flabbergaster> no nothing ever happens
#776 [04:56] <OurLeaf> Clock's 10:55
#777 [04:57] <flabbergaster> little upset i feel like i just wasted 20 bucks
#778 [04:58] <PlyAlex> It will work
#779 [04:58] <PlyAlex> try this
#780 [04:59] <PlyAlex> http://www.mpgh.net/forum/417-minecraft-help/282176-minecraft-fatal-error-4-fix.html
#781 [04:59] <PlyAlex> Might work
#782 [05:00] <flabbergaster> thanks for the help
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#785 [05:09] <fenster> Hello. can someone maybe help me. when i try to start minecraft, a window opens: could not create java virtual machine
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#788 [05:16] <rev-lemon> fenster
#789 [05:16] <rev-lemon> windows / mac ?
#790 [05:18] <rev-lemon> fenster
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#796 [05:25] <blinky> how do I download minecraft and play it without buying it ? o.o
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#798 [05:25] <blinky> how do I download minecraft and play it without buying it ? o.o
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#801 [05:32] <lemon-rev> well go figure that out your self i will not help you
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#803 [05:47] <zacdav6> my minecraft wont let me connect to any smp server even if there on the same pc
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#805 [05:51] <CaptainSherbet> I have a problem guys
#806 [05:53] <tyteen4a03> yes?
#807 [05:53] <tyteen4a03> leave your question here and I will answer asap
#808 [05:54] <CaptainSherbet> When I run my minecraft
#809 [05:54] <CaptainSherbet> Cuz I wanna get the 1.7 update
#810 [05:54] <CaptainSherbet> it just stay on "Download Packages"
#811 [05:54] <CaptainSherbet> Downloading*
#812 [05:54] <CaptainSherbet> Then nothing happens
#813 [05:55] <tyteen4a03> ??> CaptainSherbet win/reinst
#814 [05:55] <VoxelHead> CaptainSherbet: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#815 [05:55] <VoxelHead> CaptainSherbet: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#816 [05:55] <tyteen4a03> If it still fails, it means MC.net is experiencing a very high load
#817 [05:55] <tyteen4a03> be patentg
#818 [05:55] <tyteen4a03> *patient
#819 [05:56] <tyteen4a03> >.>
#820 [05:56] <CaptainSherbet> Really?
#821 [05:56] <tyteen4a03> ?
#822 [05:56] <CaptainSherbet> Would that work
#823 [05:56] <tyteen4a03> Yes.
#824 [05:56] <CaptainSherbet> Sure?
#825 [05:56] <CaptainSherbet> When should i try it
#826 [05:56] <CaptainSherbet> 1am?
#827 [05:56] <tyteen4a03> no, just try to download every few hours or something
#828 [05:57] <tyteen4a03> there has got to be a time when the servers are a little less busy
#829 [05:57] <CaptainSherbet> Cuz I had this problem
#830 [05:57] <CaptainSherbet> But I cant mention how I fixed it
#831 [05:57] <tyteen4a03> is it not legit?
#832 [05:57] <CaptainSherbet> !paid CaptainSherbet
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#834 [05:57] <rypa> Hello?
#835 [05:57] <CaptainSherbet> It's legit.
#836 [05:57] <tyteen4a03> hi
#837 [05:57] <tyteen4a03> no, the solution
#838 [05:58] <rypa> Anyone able to help me?
#839 [05:58] <tyteen4a03> rypa: go on
#840 [05:58] <CaptainSherbet> Ty: Iz not.
#841 [05:58] <tyteen4a03> hm
#842 [05:58] <tyteen4a03> whatever solution that works for you
#843 [05:58] <CaptainSherbet> He kinda broke the TOU but I cannot mention teh namez
#844 [05:58] <CaptainSherbet> Well, I'll try later.
#845 [05:58] <CaptainSherbet> Rypa: Go on
#846 [05:59] <tyteen4a03> no, that solution is not illegal or breaking the TOU
#847 [05:59] <CaptainSherbet> He gave his files to me.
#848 [05:59] <tyteen4a03> by distributing I comprehend it as "releasing files publicly"
#849 [05:59] <CaptainSherbet> Oh
#850 [05:59] <CaptainSherbet> Okay then
#851 [05:59] <CaptainSherbet> I have never had this problem
#852 [05:59] <CaptainSherbet> Until 1.6.6 and 1.7
#853 [06:00] <tyteen4a03> that will also work, but I suggest waiting for 1.7.2 first
#854 [06:00] <CaptainSherbet> Rypa: Tell us your troublwa
#855 [06:00] <CaptainSherbet> Ah
#856 [06:00] <CaptainSherbet> Sure
#857 [06:00] <rypa> How long doeSorry
#858 [06:00] <rypa> Crashed
#859 [06:00] <CaptainSherbet> The smaller updates come out quick
#860 [06:00] <CaptainSherbet> SO yah
#861 [06:00] <tyteen4a03> rypa: Can you elaborate?
#862 [06:00] <rypa> How long does it take for mojang to send out the answer to the form?
#863 [06:01] <rypa> The form where you write receipt id etc
#864 [06:01] <tyteen4a03> rypa: what form?
#865 [06:01] <tyteen4a03> ??> rypa payment
#866 [06:01] <VoxelHead> rypa: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#867 [06:01] <rypa> Because I was hacked
#868 [06:01] <VoxelHead> rypa: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#869 [06:01] <rypa> :xx
#870 [06:01] <tyteen4a03> oh
#871 [06:01] <tyteen4a03> rypa: Can you change your password?
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#873 [06:01] <rypa> No
#874 [06:01] <rypa> Someone hacked me
#875 [06:01] <rypa> I cant get on
#876 [06:01] <rypa> I sent a form
#877 [06:01] <CaptainSherbet> What about email?
#878 [06:01] <rypa> He hacke dmy hotmail also
#879 [06:01] <rypa> :S
#880 [06:01] <tyteen4a03> I suggest you email support@mojang.com
#881 [06:01] <rypa> I did
#882 [06:01] <CaptainSherbet> Whats your account name?
#883 [06:02] <rypa> its rypa
#884 [06:02] <CaptainSherbet> !paid rypa
#885 [06:02] <rypa> !paid rypa
#886 [06:02] <CaptainSherbet> Okay
#887 [06:02] <CaptainSherbet> Mojang will help you
#888 [06:02] <CaptainSherbet> Dont worry.
#889 [06:02] <rypa> They said I should go to minecraft.net/support
#890 [06:02] <rypa> So I did
#891 [06:02] <rypa> I filled the form
#892 [06:03] <rypa> Is the receipt id written like this xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx or xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
#893 [06:03] <rypa> ?
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#895 [06:03] <CaptainSherbet> Voxel, gimme owner
#896 [06:04] <rypa> So... answer my original question: How long does it take?
#897 [06:04] <tyteen4a03> CaptainSherbet: +q here means slience
#898 [06:04] <tyteen4a03> rypa: nobody knows
#899 [06:04] <rypa> Oh, k
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#901 [06:04] <CaptainSherbet> What +q?
#902 [06:04] <tyteen4a03> the worst case is it never gets processed
#903 [06:04] <CaptainSherbet> +Q
#904 [06:05] <tyteen4a03> the mibbit shows Voxel has given owner to somebody
#905 [06:05] <tyteen4a03> but actually what it means is slience on EsperNet
#906 [06:05] <rypa> He hacked my hotmail, aim, facebook, youtube, gmail. I managed to get back aim, facebook (have to wait 24hrs) and gmail
#907 [06:05] <CaptainSherbet> Rypa: Did you go on Here
#908 [06:05] <CaptainSherbet> http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#909 [06:05] <rypa> Yeah
#910 [06:05] <rypa> I did
#911 [06:05] <CaptainSherbet> Go on hacked?
#912 [06:05] <rypa> Yes
#913 [06:05] <rypa> I checked both
#914 [06:05] <rypa> Cause I've done both
#915 [06:06] <rypa> I filled the form, and they sent me an email to my other hotmail "Mojang is reviewing your form or smth"
#916 [06:06] <CaptainSherbet> Herp
#917 [06:06] <CaptainSherbet> Oh
#918 [06:06] <CaptainSherbet> Tyteen
#919 [06:06] <CaptainSherbet> A friend gave me his 1.7 files
#920 [06:06] <CaptainSherbet> Didn't work
#921 [06:06] <rypa> Lol
#922 [06:07] <rypa> So all there is, is to wait?
#923 [06:07] <tyteen4a03> yes
#924 [06:07] <rypa> K, ty
#925 [06:07] <tyteen4a03> rypa: also choose a better password
#926 [06:07] <rypa> Yeah...
#927 [06:07] <rypa> :P
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#929 [06:08] <CaptainSherbet> tyteen,
#930 [06:08] <CaptainSherbet> he gave me his files
#931 [06:08] <CaptainSherbet> And they dont work
#932 [06:08] <tyteen4a03> did he install any mods?
#933 [06:08] <CaptainSherbet> No
#934 [06:08] <CaptainSherbet> he gave me a fresh downloaded one
#935 [06:08] <rypa> But tyteen, he didnt hack my minecraft like directly, he hacked my hotmail first and then he used "lost password" and got to the pass
#936 [06:09] <rypa> Most likely
#937 [06:09] <CaptainSherbet> Did you download any free software lately?
#938 [06:09] <rypa> Not rlly
#939 [06:10] <CaptainSherbet> Not really being a file or two that you trust
#940 [06:10] <CaptainSherbet> ?
#941 [06:10] <rypa> Uh...
#942 [06:10] <rypa> Let me check
#943 [06:10] <rypa> Not really..
#944 [06:10] <rypa> does TS2 count?
#945 [06:10] <CaptainSherbet> No
#946 [06:10] <CaptainSherbet> It's trusted.
#947 [06:10] <rypa> k
#948 [06:10] <rypa> Uhhmmm
#949 [06:11] <CaptainSherbet> Unless
#950 [06:11] <rypa> I got it from steam
#951 [06:11] <CaptainSherbet> Did you download it from teamspeak.com?
#952 [06:11] <CaptainSherbet> Oh
#953 [06:11] <CaptainSherbet> I have steam
#954 [06:11] <rypa> I have teamspeak, but no..
#955 [06:11] <rypa> Lol
#956 [06:11] <CaptainSherbet> >purchase
#957 [06:11] <rypa> >purchase
#958 [06:11] <CaptainSherbet> Rypa>Purchase
#959 [06:11] <CaptainSherbet> Lol
#960 [06:11] <CaptainSherbet> Purchase
#961 [06:11] <rypa> rypa>Purchase
#962 [06:11] <CaptainSherbet> D;
#963 [06:11] <rypa> what what what
#964 [06:12] <CaptainSherbet> Nufin
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#966 [06:12] <rypa> uh..
#967 [06:12] <CaptainSherbet> Well, like tyteen said
#968 [06:12] <CaptainSherbet> Wait.
#969 [06:12] <rypa> Random purchase thing and D:
#970 [06:12] <rypa> what does it mean! Xd
#971 [06:12] <clydefrog> hey guys im a bit stuck, can anyone help?
#972 [06:12] <CaptainSherbet> Sure
#973 [06:12] <CaptainSherbet> Whats wrong
#974 [06:12] <rypa> Sure
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#977 [06:12] <clydefrog> im trying to update the minecraft server i have to 1.7 on ubuntu
#978 [06:12] <rypa> Yes?
#979 [06:13] <clydefrog> do i have to do anything like back up the map thats running off the sever
#980 [06:13] <CaptainSherbet> Yeah
#981 [06:13] <CaptainSherbet> Incase
#982 [06:13] <rypa> Yep
#983 [06:13] <CaptainSherbet> Something happens
#984 [06:13] <tyteen4a03> Turn off your server, backup everything
#985 [06:13] <rypa> The server I play on backs up every 3 hrs
#986 [06:13] <rypa> :P
#987 [06:13] <clydefrog> yeah thats what i figured, i`d get killed by the gf if i lost the map, just is that kept in the .minecraft server
#988 [06:14] <clydefrog> server = folder
#989 [06:14] <CaptainSherbet> What..?
#990 [06:14] <CaptainSherbet> Why
#991 [06:14] <CaptainSherbet> Killed by your girlfriend? Why lol
#992 [06:14] <rypa> Under "worlds"?
#993 [06:14] <clydefrog> if i lose the map shes been making id get killed
#994 [06:14] <CaptainSherbet> Because
#995 [06:14] <CaptainSherbet> She plays minecraft
#996 [06:14] <CaptainSherbet> And made something on it
#997 [06:14] <CaptainSherbet> ?
#998 [06:14] <clydefrog> yeah shes quite happy with what she made
#999 [06:15] <CaptainSherbet> What did she make?
#1000 [06:15] <clydefrog> a house
#1001 [06:15] <rypa> So she is going to sneak in your room at night, bring a kitchen knife and stab you while screaming WHY!
#1002 [06:15] <rypa> ?
#1003 [06:15] <CaptainSherbet> XD
#1004 [06:15] <clydefrog> well i dont know coz id wake up dead but im running off the assumption
#1005 [06:15] <rypa> Oh
#1006 [06:15] <rypa> Cool
#1007 [06:16] <rypa> I recommend wearing armour when going asleep if it goes wrong and you havent backuped
#1008 [06:16] <CaptainSherbet> xD
#1009 [06:16] <rypa> =] Just in case
#1010 [06:16] <clydefrog> so i just need to back up the .minecraft folder in ubuntu, does that store the information for both server and minecraft jars?
#1011 [06:16] <CaptainSherbet> Sorry
#1012 [06:16] <CaptainSherbet> That makes me lol
#1013 [06:16] <rypa> Not that someone would fire a sniper 600 metres away, dont worry
#1014 [06:16] <clydefrog> oh i will.... diamond armor, see her break thru that
#1015 [06:17] <rypa> Oh, he.. Lol-raged...?
#1016 [06:17] <rypa> Yeah, and bring plenty of Shroom soup, haha
#1017 [06:17] <clydefrog> it seems that way... strange aye
#1018 [06:17] <rypa> Yup
#1019 [06:18] <rypa> I always backup my world in my external harddrive :P
#1020 [06:18] <rypa> Just in Case!
#1021 [06:18] <rypa> Does anyone here know... Jojo261?
#1022 [06:18] <rypa> Okay, so nooned
#1023 [06:19] <rypa> -d
#1024 [06:19] <rypa> I'll leave now, dont wanna be filed as spammer! Bye Bye
#1025 [06:19] <clydefrog> im not that cautious, she cant kill me if it were a hdd failure just if it was my noob updating server failure
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#1036 [07:14] <Bolle552> Deutsche hier die mir helfen können? Minecraft startet ganz normal aber beim laden des Menüs, wo ich auswählen kann ob singel oder multiplayer, bekomm ich kurze error meldung und dann schwarzes Bild. Reparier aber oder nicht?
#1037 [07:14] <[L]> English
#1038 [07:14] <[L]> If anyone speaks dutch, tell him otherwise.
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#1040 [07:18] <Bolle552> minecraft starts normaly but i cant choose between multi or singleplayer. everytime i get an error and the window turns black. is it repairable?
#1041 [07:19] <[L]> Hm..
#1042 [07:19] <[L]> Main menu = Crash huh?
#1043 [07:19] <[L]> Sounds like a corrupted jar
#1044 [07:20] <[L]> ??> Bolle552 win/.minecraft
#1045 [07:20] <VoxelHead> Bolle552: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#1046 [07:21] <Bolle552> i have this folder on Desktop.
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#1049 [07:22] <Sledgehammer90> hi
#1050 [07:22] <Swom> Could anyone please help em out..?
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#1052 [07:22] <Sledgehammer90> i got a problem guys, my server gives this error: StackOverflowError
#1053 [07:22] <Nizahe> hello
#1054 [07:23] <Swom> Everytime i launch minecraft (in browser/download) it simple just blackscreen i havent installed any mods or texturepacks it just started to happen after the new update i have never got a problem like this before...
#1055 [07:23] <Sledgehammer90> use the HD patcher Swom
#1056 [07:23] <Swom> Where can i find that?
#1057 [07:23] <Sledgehammer90> mcpatcher-2.1.0_02
#1058 [07:24] <Sledgehammer90> look for that one
#1059 [07:24] <Sledgehammer90> patch up and ur good to go
#1060 [07:24] <Nizahe> ive got a problem, i can't log in, in mincraft. when the game start there is always a black window after mojang
#1061 [07:24] <Sledgehammer90> nizahe, for you the same
#1062 [07:24] <Sledgehammer90> download this HD patcher: mcpatcher-2.1.0_02
#1063 [07:24] <Nizahe> ok :D
#1064 [07:24] <Nizahe> k thx
#1065 [07:24] <Bolle552> ah ok i have the answer. it was the Texture Pack. Thanks for your Help. I wish a nice day. BB
#1066 [07:24] <Sledgehammer90> patch and ur good to go :)
#1067 [07:24] <Sledgehammer90> yw
#1068 [07:24] <Nizahe> do i have to patch ultimate fist too?
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#1070 [07:24] <Sledgehammer90> sooo..... anyone here who can help me?
#1071 [07:25] <Sledgehammer90> just patch it all
#1072 [07:25] <Nizahe> kk
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#1074 [07:25] <Swom> Lol what do u need help with sledge :P?
#1075 [07:25] <Sledgehammer90> my server gives this error: StackOverflowError
#1076 [07:25] <Sledgehammer90> many players have this problem
#1077 [07:26] <Sledgehammer90> mostly after using redstone/pistons
#1078 [07:26] <Sledgehammer90> server just crashes
#1079 [07:26] <Swom> Its a bug in 1.7
#1080 [07:26] <Swom> Most servers crash after useing a piston atm
#1081 [07:26] <Sledgehammer90> so if i understand correctly
#1082 [07:26] <Sledgehammer90> i have to wait for a new patch
#1083 [07:26] <Swom> Its a bug
#1084 [07:26] <Swom> Yes
#1085 [07:26] <Sledgehammer90> before i can use my server again?
#1086 [07:26] <Swom> U shouldent
#1087 [07:27] <Swom> Some servers crash once and are able to use right after other crash and aint possible to open again (before new update)
#1088 [07:27] <Sledgehammer90> my server is fine
#1089 [07:27] <Sledgehammer90> till i login
#1090 [07:27] <Sledgehammer90> then it crashes =_=
#1091 [07:28] <Swom> My own server crashed by use of piston i have called my "inside" friend in mojan and he told me it would be fixed in the next update..
#1092 [07:28] <Sledgehammer90> hope that update comes soon
#1093 [07:28] <Sledgehammer90> not in 5 months as usual =_=
#1094 [07:28] <Nizahe> where i can find mc patcher, lol
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#1096 [07:28] <Swom> Should be here within the next 1-2 weeks
#1097 [07:28] <Sledgehammer90> lol
#1098 [07:28] <Sledgehammer90> thats way too long
#1099 [07:29] <Sledgehammer90> nizahe, just google for mcpatcher-2.1.0_02
#1100 [07:29] <Nizahe> oh lol i got :D
#1101 [07:29] <Swom> I know but its a hard job to do for the mojan dudes lol
#1102 [07:29] <Sledgehammer90> lol
#1103 [07:29] <Nizahe> i had it already :P
#1104 [07:29] <Jess> Does anyone know how to fix a graphics error I have this white lines every were (like on torches and plants) and i can see between the blocks to lava and the void.
#1105 [07:29] <Jess> and water
#1106 [07:29] <Sledgehammer90> i hate companies like that: publishing a game buggy as hell, and taking too damn long to fix em
#1107 [07:30] <Sledgehammer90> jess, do you have a texture pack?
#1108 [07:30] <Swom> Yea it sucks.
#1109 [07:30] <Jess> no
#1110 [07:30] <Sledgehammer90> in that case, try using the HD patcher
#1111 [07:30] <Sledgehammer90> if that doesnt work, come again
#1112 [07:30] <Swom> My minecraft works again! Yay ! :D
#1113 [07:30] <Sledgehammer90> good :)
#1114 [07:30] <Swom> Tyvm Sledge hope u got ure problem fixed soon :)
#1115 [07:31] <Sledgehammer90> thanks :P
#1116 [07:31] <Sledgehammer90> have fun mate
#1117 [07:31] <Swom> U to ;)
#1118 [07:31] <Swom> Bye.
#1119 [07:31] <Sledgehammer90> cya
#1120 [07:33] <Nizahe> so damn, i cann see Shears
#1121 [07:34] <Sledgehammer90> u got a texture pack?
#1122 [07:35] <Jess> still there
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#1124 [07:35] <Jess> so i loaded it
#1125 [07:35] <Jess> and nothing
#1126 [07:35] <Sledgehammer90> did you use this patcher: mcpatcher-2.1.0_02
#1127 [07:35] <Sledgehammer90> ?
#1128 [07:35] <Jess> yes
#1129 [07:35] <Sledgehammer90> hmm
#1130 [07:36] <Sledgehammer90> that sucks
#1131 [07:36] <Jess> i got it and every thing i have some pix of whats going on i could send to them but how would i do that
#1132 [07:37] <Jess> wow what i just said is confusing
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#1134 [07:38] <Nizahe> i patched already
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#1136 [07:39] <Danthepianist> GreyVulpine - I left the client open stuck on dling packages all night, and when I woke up I was at the play menu. Figures the dumbest solution I try is the one that works.
#1137 [07:40] <Jess> its getting bad too like sometimes its the hole game i can see caves and white lines every were
#1138 [07:40] <Jess> i can see in the ground
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#1141 [07:42] <OurLeaf> hehe
#1142 [07:42] <OurLeaf> Sticky piston
#1143 [07:42] <OurLeaf> You put a dirt or any movable block infront of it
#1144 [07:42] <OurLeaf> and keep putting redstone torches on it
#1145 [07:42] <OurLeaf> It'll crash
#1146 [07:42] <OurLeaf> Don't do eht
#1147 [07:42] <Jess> Does anyone here know how to fix this graphics error I have this white lines every were (like on torches and plants) and i can see between the blocks to lava and the void.
#1148 [07:44] <Jess> no i'm not using any texture pack
#1149 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> Jess - Yes, go to your video card’s settings and turn antialiasing to application-controlled
#1150 [07:45] <Jess> wait how do i do that get to my video card
#1151 [07:45] <Jess> its a DirectX11
#1152 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows? Mac? Linux?
#1153 [07:46] <Jess> Win7
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#1155 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> Go to your desktop, right click on it, do you see either an nvidia control panel, or an ati catalyst control panel?
#1156 [07:47] <Jess> I have a ATI mobility Redeon premium Graphics card
#1157 [07:47] <Jess> aka DirectX11
#1158 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> Please go to the ati catalyst control panel, in there, look for any settings that you’re forcing to a setting, and not application controlled
#1159 [07:49] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, it’s anti-aliasing.
#1160 [07:50] <Sqozza> There is indeed an upderp.
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#1162 [07:52] <Asuron> so.. hopefully this one goes quick when ever i want to buy the game this message shows after entering all my data : Unfortunately we are unable to process this transaction. any ideas? or am i totally wrong here with this?
#1163 [07:52] <GreyVulpine> Are you trying to use a prepaid card?
#1164 [07:52] <Asuron> EC from germany
#1165 [07:52] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I do not know what that is.
#1166 [07:53] <Asuron> Pay via Direct Debit is whats shown here
#1167 [07:53] <Jess> I cant find it i clicked on graphics properties
#1168 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Jess - You right clicked on your desktop, went to “Catalyst™ Control center”, yes?
#1169 [07:54] <Jess> yes
#1170 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Asuron - Try a different payment method?
#1171 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Jess - Under the 3D setting, do you see Anti-aliasing? Is “Use Application settings” checked?
#1172 [07:54] <Jess> ok i have Basic and advanced
#1173 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> Try advanced.
#1174 [07:55] <Asuron> easier said than done but i will try -.-
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#1176 [07:56] <Jess> loading the new update 1 sec
#1177 [07:56] <Jess> not 1.7 no there a new
#1178 [07:56] <Jess> ya
#1179 [07:57] <Jess> ill see if it fixed it
#1180 [07:57] <Jess> no still there
#1181 [07:58] <Jess> all the white lines and there glory
#1182 [07:58] <Jess> =(
#1183 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, could you take a screenshot (F2), and upload it to imgur.com so I can see what you’re talking about?
#1184 [08:00] <Jess> ok
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#1186 [08:00] <swom> Can anyone tell me where i can find the HD patcher?
#1187 [08:00] <GreyVulpine> swom - Try #risucraft
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#1190 [08:02] <swom> Why that..? its just another chatroom?
#1191 [08:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes, they’re in charge of doing most of the mods, including hd patcher
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#1193 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> Or you can just google it..
#1194 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-611-update17-compatible-mcpatcher-hd-fix-210-02/
#1195 [08:03] <OurLeaf> Ohai Grey
#1196 [08:03] <Senjai> anyone here run minecraft on ubuntu?
#1197 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> ‘lo OurLeaf
#1198 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> Senjai - Many people have
#1199 [08:03] <OurLeaf> My bro crashed my save
#1200 [08:03] <Senjai> I cant get it to work
#1201 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> Senjai - Define “can’t get it to work”
#1202 [08:03] <OurLeaf> With some wicked combination of glowstone and pisons -.-
#1203 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> OurLeaf - MCedit, edit the pistons out yourself
#1204 [08:04] <OurLeaf> okay...?
#1205 [08:04] <OurLeaf> Link?
#1206 [08:04] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/13807-mcedit-minecraft-world-editor-compatible-with-mc-beta-166/
#1207 [08:04] <Senjai> GreyBot, I log in, it updates, then exits
#1208 [08:04] <GreyVulpine> It’s a third party map editor
#1209 [08:04] <GreyVulpine> Senjai - Do you get any error reports?
#1210 [08:05] <Jess> im working on uploading them now
#1211 [08:05] <Senjai> GreyVulpine, http://pastebin.com/5RNk2fDj
#1212 [08:06] <Jess> http://imgur.com/a/RwbL8#MVFHA
#1213 [08:06] <Jess> there
#1214 [08:06] <GreyVulpine> Senjai - What video card do you have?
#1215 [08:06] <GreyVulpine> Senjai - Do you have the latest drivers installed for it?
#1216 [08:07] <Senjai> I have an ATI Mobility3600 RADEON HD
#1217 [08:07] <Senjai> something like that
#1218 [08:07] <Jess> you will see white and black lines on the blocks sometimes they get really bad
#1219 [08:07] <Senjai> I just installed the driver, I have to restart
#1220 [08:07] <Jess> wha
#1221 [08:07] <Jess> what*
#1222 [08:07] <Senjai> the proprietary drivers that is
#1223 [08:07] <Jess> were do i get that
#1224 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> Jess - Go back to your Catalyst control panel.
#1225 [08:07] <Senjai> Jess, are you talking to me?
#1226 [08:07] <Jess> ok
#1227 [08:08] <Senjai> brb gonna restart
#1228 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> Jess - Please check the Ansiotropic filtering option, is it set to application controlled?
#1229 [08:08] <Jess> weres that
#1230 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> Under the 3D heading?
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#1232 [08:09] <Jess> no i can just set the Quality
#1233 [08:09] <Jess> on that
#1234 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> Go to “Advanced”
#1235 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the 3D heading under graphics options there?
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#1237 [08:10] <Senjai> Alright back
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#1239 [08:11] <Jess> no0
#1240 [08:11] <Senjai> GreyVulpine, restarting woredk
#1241 [08:11] <Senjai> I guess the driver had to take effect
#1242 [08:11] <Jess> hey senjai
#1243 [08:11] <Senjai> Yes jess
#1244 [08:11] * GreyVulpine nods at Senjai
#1244 [08:11] <Senjai> Are you using ati as well on ubuntu?
#1245 [08:12] <Jess> what were you talking about
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#1247 [08:12] <Senjai> Are you on linux?
#1248 [08:12] <Jess> no Win7
#1249 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Jess is on windows 7
#1250 [08:12] <Senjai> If you use windows or mac, my problem isn't applicable to you
#1251 [08:12] <Senjai> I'm using Ubuntu Linux
#1252 [08:12] <Jess> bummer
#1253 [08:12] <Senjai> What's your issue though
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#1255 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Jess, you haven’t answered my question, did you check the ansiotropic filtering option?
#1256 [08:12] <Jess> i see white lines
#1257 [08:13] <Jess> i can find it
#1258 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> Senjai - white lines around blocks, usually indicative of antialiasing or ansiotropic filtering set at the video card setting level
#1259 [08:13] <Senjai> Jess, for windows 7, you must update to Java 7, for catalyst options ALL options should be set to application controlled
#1260 [08:13] <Senjai> Also, in your minecraft options, advanced openGL should be OFF
#1261 [08:13] <Jess> ok 1 sec
#1262 [08:14] * Senjai wishes indie coders were more efficient
#1262 [08:14] * GreyVulpine shrugs
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#1263 [08:15] <Jess> were do i get java 7 know that a dum one but im having a hard time finding it
#1264 [08:15] <Senjai> It really is all their fault
#1265 [08:15] <Senjai> Go to java.com
#1266 [08:15] <Senjai> Download section
#1267 [08:15] <Jess> ya saw that coming
#1268 [08:15] <Senjai> and download java for windows
#1269 [08:15] <Senjai> :P
#1270 [08:15] <mib_lmfff4> hey guys im getting a black screen with the new update can anyone help?
#1271 [08:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_lmfff4 - Did you use texture packs or mods before this happened?
#1272 [08:16] <Senjai> mib_lmfff4, can you go into any more detail?
#1273 [08:16] <mib_lmfff4> ya
#1274 [08:16] <Senjai> Jess, are you running mods?
#1275 [08:16] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#1276 [08:16] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on mib_lmfff4?
#1277 [08:16] <Jess> no
#1278 [08:16] <GreyVulpine> Windows? Mac? LInux?
#1279 [08:16] <mib_lmfff4> black screens just before main start page
#1280 [08:16] <Senjai> Jess, after you download java, if it still doesnt work, an option would be to delete the META-INF folder in your jar
#1281 [08:16] * GreyVulpine shakes
#1281 [08:16] <Senjai> but, one step at a time
#1282 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> Recheck the 3d settings in the catalyst control panel
#1283 [08:17] <mib_lmfff4> xp
#1284 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_lmfff4 - Please go to your start menu, go to the run command, in there, type in: %appdata%
#1285 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_lmfff4 - Find the folder named “.minecraft” and delete everything inside except for the ‘saves’ folder
#1286 [08:17] <GreyVulpine> Then relaunch minecraft
#1287 [08:17] <mib_lmfff4> i know how to get to .minecraft
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#1289 [08:18] <mib_lmfff4> ok brb
#1290 [08:18] <Jess> ok i have java 6 26 update
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#1292 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> Jess - Question, have you made sure that all the settings inside your Catalyst control panel are set to “Application controlled”?
#1293 [08:19] <mib_lmfff4> yup done now just re dl?
#1294 [08:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_lmfff4 - Yes
#1295 [08:20] <mib_lmfff4> kew man thankyou heaps for ur help *gives 5 diamonds*
#1296 [08:20] * GreyVulpine nods
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#1298 [08:22] <Jess> hey GreyVulpine you have teamviewer
#1299 [08:22] <rypa> Guys, my friend says it takes forever for mojang to proccess my recovery thing?
#1300 [08:22] <Jess> do you think you could get it to help me
#1301 [08:22] <Jess> its free
#1302 [08:23] <rypa> Im afraid the hacker could have done alot in that time
#1303 [08:23] <Jess> it lets you take over my computer
#1304 [08:23] <rypa> That sounds very convincing
#1305 [08:23] <rypa> xD
#1306 [08:23] <Jess> but i can still kick you of if needed
#1307 [08:24] <Jess> i still have controll hey can just help with stuff
#1308 [08:24] <TheNytangel> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1366264411.png
#1309 [08:25] <TheNytangel> :(
#1310 [08:26] <Jess> GreyVulpine you have teamviewer do you think you could get it to help me its free
#1311 [08:26] <Jess> http://teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1312 [08:26] <GreyVulpine> PM me your info
#1313 [08:26] <Jess> and fast
#1314 [08:26] <Jess> oh you have it
#1315 [08:26] <GreyVulpine> I know about teamviewer, have used it here on many occasions
#1316 [08:27] <Jess> umm how do i pm
#1317 [08:27] <GreyVulpine> /msg greyvulpine private_stuff_goes_here
#1318 [08:27] <Jess> ok
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#1324 [08:32] <TheNytangel> >.>
#1325 [08:33] * TheNytangel thinks GreyVulpine has used it on me.. and DopeGhoti has too
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#1327 [08:36] <claude> trying to run Minecraft, app won't start, keeps giving error message
#1328 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> What error message? Can you paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it?
#1329 [08:37] <ziv> Mine just gives me a darn black screen before the main menu, BUT, I didn't know about the texture pack thing, gonna see if removing them works.
#1330 [08:37] <claude> "The procedure entry point _JVM_LoadSystemLibrary@4 could not be located in the dynamic link library jvm.dll.
#1331 [08:38] <ziv> Btw, after I finish updating MC, can I return the texture pack?
#1332 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> Only if the texture pack is updated for 1.7
#1333 [08:38] <ziv> AND IT WORKSSSSS!!!! :D
#1334 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> If it doesn’t, then no
#1335 [08:38] <ziv> :<
#1336 [08:38] <ziv> It's that Misa pack :/
#1337 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, just gotta wait for the pack creator to update it then
#1338 [08:39] <GreyVulpine> claude - Is that the full error?
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#1341 [08:41] <rypa> Hello?
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#1344 [08:43] <Jess> ok back
#1345 [08:44] <Jess> greyvulpine
#1346 [08:44] <Senjai> Jess hows it going
#1347 [08:44] <GreyVulpine> Yo
#1348 [08:44] <Jess> ya i just in stall a 64 bite of java 6 update 26
#1349 [08:44] <Jess> so ya
#1350 [08:45] <claude> yes thats all I get.
#1351 [08:45] <Jess> oh ok lets try this 1 more time shall we
#1352 [08:45] <Senjai> lol
#1353 [08:45] <Senjai> Poor Jess
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#1355 [08:45] <Jess> Sad faces
#1356 [08:46] <Jess> lol
#1357 [08:46] <claude> GreyVulpine - thats all I get.
#1358 [08:46] <GreyVulpine> claude - Try a total uninstall/reinstall of java
#1359 [08:46] <doogie> hey can someone help me out please
#1360 [08:46] <doogie> my world keeps giving me a light blue screen in the game when i open it up, then my game goes black
#1361 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#1362 [08:47] <doogie> yea
#1363 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> ??> doogie win/reinst
#1364 [08:47] <VoxelHead> doogie: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1365 [08:47] <VoxelHead> doogie: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1366 [08:47] <Jess> any mods or texture packs
#1367 [08:47] <claude> Where can I get an installer
#1368 [08:47] <doogie> yeah i had mods but then i updated
#1369 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> claude - Java.com
#1370 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> doogie - Try VoxelHead’s instructions
#1371 [08:47] <doogie> and a texture pack
#1372 [08:47] <doogie> ok
#1373 [08:48] <Jess> ya doogie good point
#1374 [08:49] <doogie> what do i do if that doesnt work?
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#1376 [08:49] <doogie> pretty sure i did it already
#1377 [08:51] <doogie> yeah it still didnt work
#1378 [08:51] <Jess> GreyVulpine?
#1379 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> doogie - Did you delete everything except for saves in the .minecraft folder?
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#1382 [08:56] <Jess> i fixed SWEET
#1383 [08:56] <doogie> yes
#1384 [08:57] <mib_6yg6bo> if you dont download the new version, why cant you plan on the sever for the old version
#1385 [08:57] <ziv> Right, MC works now, I kenw it was a good idea to come here! :D
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#1387 [08:57] <ziv> `off
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#1390 [09:11] <Senjai> GreyVulpine are you here
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#1392 [09:16] <mib_mr6uvx> well download the game and then it wont run ??? help
#1393 [09:17] <[L]> Hm
#1394 [09:17] <[L]> You need to give more information than just that
#1395 [09:18] <mib_mr6uvx> i click on the download link, save it in my documents the i click it to make it open then it just wont open
#1396 [09:20] <mib_mr6uvx> mate hurry up
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#1405 [09:33] <hipy> hi i have a problem, i have put 5 pistons next to eachother but i cant power the blocks from all at the same time
#1406 [09:33] <hipy> if i lay one redstone line next to it, it doesnt work
#1407 [09:34] <Keltinray> use repeaters
#1408 [09:34] <hipy> thanks!!
#1409 [09:34] <Keltinray> one line of repeaters pointing towards the pistons, then a line of redstone behind those
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#1411 [09:40] <Jack9988100> Hello
#1412 [09:40] <Jack9988100> i need help, i just installed beta 1.7, and i cant connect to any server at all.
#1413 [09:40] <Jack9988100> They are all outdated...
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#1415 [09:41] <oldtopmanserver> Jack9988100: Find an updated one
#1416 [09:41] <Jack9988100> Cant i get an older version?
#1417 [09:41] <Jack9988100> like get my minecraft back to 1.6/1.5?
#1418 [09:42] <Jack9988100> :)
#1419 [09:43] <oldtopmanserver> Not as far as I can tell
#1420 [09:43] <Dalton> Hey guys, When ever I try to play minecraft and play it says its not downloaded. Then when I check the .minecraft file in %appdata% its empty. I have tried deleting all my minecraft stuff and re downloading it but still the same problem occurs. Are you able to help?
#1421 [09:43] <xolotl> Jack9988100: Sure, just restore from your backups. :)
#1422 [09:43] <oldtopmanserver> Jack9988100: You can ask in #smp for a server that actually updates
#1423 [09:44] <xolotl> Jack9988100: (there's a thing called mcnostalgia which allows from some shenanigans which are apparently approved-for-mention-in-here)
#1424 [09:44] <Dalton> Does anyone know why this occurs?
#1425 [09:45] <oldtopmanserver> Dalton: Do you have any antivirus/firewall software?
#1426 [09:45] <Dalton> Yes
#1427 [09:46] <oldtopmanserver> Dalton: Try giving minecraft full access, or disable it while you download
#1428 [09:47] <Jack9988100> xotolt..
#1429 [09:47] <Jack9988100> how do i restore from backups? XD.
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#1432 [09:47] <xolotl> Jack9988100: Well, first you'd have to have made a backup. If you've done that bit, then you probably understand the second bit.
#1433 [09:48] <Dalton> When ever I re-download minecraft.exe and press run the launcher opens...
#1434 [09:48] <Dalton> but when I try to sign in it says not downloaded
#1435 [09:48] <Jack9988100> Think i deleted ma backup -.- xD.
#1436 [09:48] <Jack9988100> ima just go in #smp :D.
#1437 [09:49] <oldtopmanserver> Dalton: Not the file
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#1439 [09:49] <oldtopmanserver> Dalton: Deactivate your firewall software, run minecraft.exe, ??? profit
#1440 [09:49] <Product> Hi all :)
#1441 [09:49] <Product> Is almostroot there ?
#1442 [09:50] <Product> Ok, I think he isn't.
#1443 [09:50] <Product> Can anyone please help me ?
#1444 [09:51] <Dalton> Nope still the same problem,
#1445 [09:51] <Dalton> could it have been to do with any mods downloaded from the minecraft fourms?
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#1447 [09:53] <asnoehu> I just want to express a general tnx to the support in this channel :)
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#1449 [09:53] <Product> oldtopmanserver: Do you have experiences with CentOS ?
#1450 [09:55] <Product> If you don't please notify me ;)
#1451 [09:55] <Dalton> okay never mind
#1452 [09:55] <Dalton> i have solved my problem
#1453 [09:56] <Dalton> just play through browser it re downloads it all
#1454 [09:56] <Dalton> thanks anyway
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#1457 [09:58] <TheNytangel> I hate my internet..
#1458 [09:58] <asnoehu> I love my internet
#1459 [09:58] <asnoehu> :)
#1460 [09:59] <Senjai> check this out guys
#1461 [10:00] <Senjai> yall are gonna hate me
#1462 [10:00] <Senjai> lol
#1463 [10:00] <TheNytangel> My internet is so slow
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#1465 [10:00] <Senjai> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1366395918.png
#1466 [10:00] <BeefyX> guys
#1467 [10:00] <TheNytangel> I can't play CoD multiplay, I can't play facebook games, I can't watch youtube videos without pausing them 50 times
#1468 [10:00] <Senjai> look at that
#1469 [10:00] <BeefyX> im new here but ihave to tell a bug i found 2 minutes ago..
#1470 [10:00] <BeefyX> im running a minecraft server and i just crafted pistons
#1471 [10:00] <Product> Lol, my Internet is speeder than that.
#1472 [10:00] <BeefyX> then i made a "water-block".
#1473 [10:00] <Senjai> Really?
#1474 [10:01] <Senjai> Go to speedtest.net and prove it :P
#1475 [10:01] <Product> Senjai: Yes.
#1476 [10:01] <Product> Ok :P
#1477 [10:01] <BeefyX> uhm.?
#1478 [10:01] <BeefyX> isnt that minecraft?! o.o
#1479 [10:01] <BeefyX> i think youre not listening :(
#1480 [10:01] <Product> Yes.
#1481 [10:01] <Senjai> Sorry beefy?
#1482 [10:01] <Product> Beefe, what's the problem ?
#1483 [10:01] <BeefyX> i just activated the piston
#1484 [10:01] <BeefyX> and then it dropped another one
#1485 [10:01] <BeefyX> and the server crashed
#1486 [10:01] <BeefyX> thats what i got:
#1487 [10:01] <BeefyX> [SEVERE] Unexpected exception java.lang.NullPointerException at mz.a(SourceFile:130) at mu.a(SourceFile:97) at mu.g_(SourceFile:145) at dj.e(SourceFile:1119) at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.h(SourceFile:374) at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(SourceFile:307) at bq.run(SourceFile:422)
#1488 [10:02] <BeefyX> i think there will come out many bugfixes next time . :/
#1489 [10:02] <Senjai> Beefy, use pastebin.org for long pastes
#1490 [10:02] <BeefyX> ok
#1491 [10:02] <Product> ?? pastebin
#1492 [10:02] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you do, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1493 [10:02] <BeefyX> http://pastebin.com/v3N5w3f6#
#1494 [10:02] <Senjai> Also, the best places for help and bug reports are the forums and #minecrafthelp
#1495 [10:02] <BeefyX> http://pastebin.com/v3N5w3f6 *
#1496 [10:02] <TheNytangel> ??> BeefyX pastebin
#1497 [10:02] <VoxelHead> BeefyX: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you do, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1498 [10:03] <Senjai> Dont need to spam the text guys
#1499 [10:03] <Senjai> Product, I await your speedtest results
#1500 [10:03] <TheNytangel> ??< error
#1501 [10:03] <BeefyX> 100 guys said me pastebin and lol.
#1502 [10:03] <Product> Senjai: Oh, 1 sec.
#1503 [10:03] <TheNytangel> ??>> BeefyX pastebin
#1504 [10:03] <Senjai> Ny, please stop
#1505 [10:03] <TheNytangel> Nou
#1506 [10:03] <BeefyX> the error is: my piston dropped another piston when i activated it with redstone, so the water should be blocked.
#1507 [10:04] <BeefyX> but well..
#1508 [10:04] <BeefyX> then i got the error in server console (pastebin)
#1509 [10:04] <BeefyX> i'm gonna restart the server
#1510 [10:04] <aikaramba> so
#1511 [10:04] <aikaramba> anyone get crash
#1512 [10:04] <aikaramba> with mcpatcher and 1.7.2
#1513 [10:04] <BeefyX> no. the server get crash.
#1514 [10:04] <Senjai> mods arent working
#1515 [10:04] <BeefyX> or you didnt mean me eh?
#1516 [10:04] <Senjai> BeefyX, you arent the only one with an issue
#1517 [10:05] <aikaramba> :)
#1518 [10:05] <Product> http://i56.tinypic.com/2nv5p43.png
#1519 [10:05] <Product> Enjoy
#1520 [10:05] <Senjai> there are 168 users in here
#1521 [10:05] <BeefyX> senjal thanx for telling me :)
#1522 [10:05] <BeefyX> uhm senjal
#1523 [10:05] <TheNytangel> Senjai, only less than 5 need help atm..
#1524 [10:05] <BeefyX> just wanted to play with me a bit ?
#1525 [10:05] <Senjai> Product, your in a datacenter
#1526 [10:05] <slingshot> slingshot here.......can someone help me
#1527 [10:05] <Product> Senjai: Exactly.
#1528 [10:05] <aikaramba> Senjai, we have 500 Mbit for private here
#1529 [10:05] <BeefyX> ah i wrote wrong.
#1530 [10:05] <BeefyX> #lol.
#1531 [10:05] <Senjai> TheNytangel, duh. It was a statement to exhuberate the fact that not everyone is talking about the same issue
#1532 [10:05] <BeefyX> does someone want to play with me?
#1533 [10:06] <Senjai> Product, cheats! Lol
#1534 [10:06] <TheNytangel> Oh :P
#1535 [10:06] <aikaramba> BeefyX, A/S/L
#1536 [10:06] <BeefyX> so i dont believe. well
#1537 [10:06] <Product> I need help, does anyone has experiences with CentOS ?
#1538 [10:06] <BeefyX> ASL?
#1539 [10:06] <Senjai> Product, I'm on a university connection
#1540 [10:06] <Product> Noo, why I cheat ?
#1541 [10:06] <Senjai> BeefyX, how old are you
#1542 [10:06] <BeefyX> 14 :)
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#1544 [10:06] <Senjai> too young for our server
#1545 [10:06] <Senjai> sorry
#1546 [10:06] <aikaramba> Not want to play :D
#1547 [10:06] <BeefyX> lol
#1548 [10:06] <Product> Anyone knows how to work with CentOS ?
#1549 [10:06] <TheNytangel> BeefyX, this is a help channel, not a chat channel
#1550 [10:06] <BeefyX> i meant something else
#1551 [10:06] <Senjai> I do
#1552 [10:06] <BeefyX> you play on mine server
#1553 [10:06] <Senjai> well I use Ubuntu
#1554 [10:06] <BeefyX> my *
#1555 [10:06] <Senjai> close enough
#1556 [10:06] <aikaramba> A - Age / S - sex or gender / L - location
#1557 [10:06] <Product> Cool senjai :)
#1558 [10:07] <BeefyX> 14, male, germany
#1559 [10:07] <Product> Can you come via TeamViewer please ?
#1560 [10:07] <BeefyX> :D
#1561 [10:07] <Senjai> I dont have it installed
#1562 [10:07] <Senjai> give me a moment
#1563 [10:07] <Product> Ok, thanks :)
#1564 [10:07] * aikaramba facepalm
#1564 [10:07] <Product> Don't worry your internet is speed, it can install it really fast :P
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#1566 [10:08] <slingshot> i purchased minecraft yesterday but get an error whwn i try to run it.............help
#1567 [10:08] <BeefyX> lol red cut.
#1568 [10:08] <Senjai> Product, what is it exactly you needed help with
#1569 [10:08] <Product> slingshot: What is your Mc username ?
#1570 [10:08] <Product> Senjai: I have a minecraft classic server.
#1571 [10:08] <BeefyX> slingshot
#1572 [10:09] <Product> senjai: And almostroot has set it up for me.
#1573 [10:09] <Senjai> Product, not working to your liking?
#1574 [10:09] <BeefyX> your problem is somehting with graphiccards and openGL
#1575 [10:09] <Product> !!paid slingshot
#1576 [10:09] <BeefyX> so well
#1577 [10:09] <slingshot> slimgshot12
#1578 [10:09] <Product> !paid slingshot
#1579 [10:09] <Product> Senjai: Yes.
#1580 [10:09] <Product> Senjai: It is.
#1581 [10:09] <Product> But I think someone in game did /restart
#1582 [10:09] <Product> And you know server won't come back.
#1583 [10:09] <slingshot> it went through pay pal yesterday
#1584 [10:09] <Senjai> !paid slimgshot12
#1585 [10:09] <Product> I can show you everytthing clearly.
#1586 [10:09] <Product> On teamviewer.
#1587 [10:10] <Senjai> hmm
#1588 [10:10] <Product> Can I ?
#1589 [10:10] <Senjai> ok
#1590 [10:10] <Senjai> Product, it's installing
#1591 [10:10] <Senjai> I just did a fresh ubuntu install
#1592 [10:10] <Product> Ok :)
#1593 [10:11] <Product> Thanks :)
#1594 [10:12] <slingshot> I paid for minecraft yesterday through paypal slingshot12............can't run it!!!
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#1596 [10:14] <slingshot> can someone help me?
#1597 [10:16] <mib_l743hv> i had a mod so in this update i had to delete my minecraft .jar and .jar.zip but wan i logged into minecraft it will only show "update complete"
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#1599 [10:18] <dark2> I cannot get minecraft to run without closing itself in a matter of seconds. I'm running Ubuntu 10.10
#1600 [10:18] <Senjai> What error do yo get
#1601 [10:18] <Senjai> what Operating system do you get
#1602 [10:19] <Senjai> dark2, use sun-java6-jre
#1603 [10:19] <Senjai> not openjdk
#1604 [10:19] <dark2> Senjai I am.
#1605 [10:19] <Senjai> Do you have the latest drivers installed
#1606 [10:19] <Senjai> for your video card
#1607 [10:20] <dark2> Whatever Ubuntu installed for me when it installed proprietary drivers. I cannot update to the ones from AMD, or else I can't boot into ubuntu
#1608 [10:20] <dark2> Just gives me a black and white striped screen instead if I do
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#1610 [10:21] <deddokatana> hi, im a linux user running java 1.6 and im getting the black screen error..
#1611 [10:22] <hipy> new bug, if you place a door you will close the top side and the bottom disapears
#1612 [10:22] <hipy> also you see purple blocks if you hit a door
#1613 [10:23] <deddokatana> bump
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#1616 [10:28] <RpMMiNi> I've searched for a black screen issue like mine, but I can't find my specific issue. Also, it started before the 1.7 update. My computer is a Mac OS X version 10.6.8 with an ATI Radeon HD 4670 and 4gb of RAM. I can load up Minecraft and get to the main menu with no issues. The black screen appears when I attempt to load a world. It happens in both single p
#1617 [10:28] <RpMMiNi> layer and multiplayer. If I try to create a new world, the background of the main menu appears for a few seconds, what appears to be an error screen (with a bunch of text) flashes for a fraction of a second and then I get a black screen. If I try to load a world that has been created already, it says "saving chunks" and then the same thing happens.
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#1619 [10:29] <RpMMiNi> I've already deleted my bin folder and restarted Minecraft. I've already completely deleted my Minecraft folder and downloaded it again. I updated Java but that didn't solve the problem. The only solution I can think of is to update my graphics card with a driver, but there is no driver for an ATI Radeon HD 4670 for a Mac OS X version 10.6.8.
#1620 [10:29] <RpMMiNi> I'm all out of ideas so any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
#1621 [10:29] <aikaramba> mods?
#1622 [10:29] <aikaramba> texturepack?
#1623 [10:29] <RpMMiNi> No mods or texture packs.
#1624 [10:30] <aikaramba> is Max OS X your only os
#1625 [10:30] <aikaramba> ?
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#1627 [10:31] <Products> Hey
#1628 [10:31] <Senjai> Hey
#1629 [10:31] <RpMMiNi> Well, I'm not home right now. This problem is happening on my brother's computer. I haven't had this problem on any other computer
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#1631 [10:31] <dark2> Senjai, any ideas?
#1632 [10:31] <aikaramba> with same OS?
#1633 [10:31] <RpMMiNi> My computer is Vista 64bit
#1634 [10:31] <aikaramba> 64 bit
#1635 [10:31] <aikaramba> do a search on that
#1636 [10:31] <aikaramba> :)
#1637 [10:32] <RpMMiNi> No, the problem is on this computer. Which is an OS X 10.6.8
#1638 [10:32] <Senjai> sorry dark, im in a help session
#1639 [10:32] <Senjai> one second
#1640 [10:33] <aikaramba> btw
#1641 [10:33] <aikaramba> when re downloading MC
#1642 [10:33] <aikaramba> do you always use the same map
#1643 [10:33] <aikaramba> or have you tried a brand new map
#1644 [10:33] <RpMMiNi> I've tried doing both. Neither work.
#1645 [10:33] <aikaramba> a... just read ;)
#1646 [10:33] <RpMMiNi> Lol, yeah.
#1647 [10:34] <aikaramba> btw
#1648 [10:34] <aikaramba> if you suspect graphics
#1649 [10:34] <aikaramba> does Mac OS X have something like mesa for linux
#1650 [10:34] <RpMMiNi> I'm not sure what that is
#1651 [10:35] <hipy> damn you cant move dispensers with pistons
#1652 [10:35] <RpMMiNi> I just ran out of ideas so I just thought it could be the graphics
#1653 [10:35] <RpMMiNi> But the thing is, everything worked fine before a few days ago
#1654 [10:36] <aikaramba> mesa can be used alternatively to manufacturers opengl driver
#1655 [10:36] <aikaramba> i think it was software rendering unless dri is usied
#1656 [10:37] <RpMMiNi> I can't find anyone else who has had this problem before so I don't know what to do lol
#1657 [10:37] <aikaramba> i have it
#1658 [10:37] <aikaramba> but with mcpatcher
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#1660 [10:37] <aikaramba> interesting..
#1661 [10:38] <RpMMiNi> Well MC worked fine until my brother tried to download some mod and then I tried everything I could think of but it didn't solve anything
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#1665 [10:40] <slingshot> i purchased mineceaft yesterday with paypal but get an error when i try to run it............can someone help me?
#1666 [10:42] <aikaramba> well i think RpMMiNi answered its question
#1667 [10:42] <aikaramba> the mod
#1668 [10:42] <self_slaughter> oh i was thinking brother
#1669 [10:42] <self_slaughter> lol
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#1671 [10:42] <fenster> meh i really need help
#1672 [10:43] <self_slaughter> fenster: try topical cream, if it doesn't start to clear up in a few days see a doctor
#1673 [10:43] <self_slaughter> (well u didn't say help with what.....) :P
#1674 [10:44] <fenster> i downloaded a mod then my .minecraft folder became empty i tryed to redownload the .exe but the files wont come back to the .minecraft folder
#1675 [10:45] <slingshot> i need help to run this program
#1676 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> slingshot - What error do you get?
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#1678 [10:46] <slingshot> when i try to run the program it gives me an internet errpr
#1679 [10:46] <Kario> anyone else having trouble logging in?
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#1682 [10:47] <slingshot> login is not a problem i can't run the game
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#1684 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> slingshot - What error, exactly?
#1685 [10:47] <Delavor> Hello, i have some questions.
#1686 [10:48] <slingshot> when i try to use the browser it say it can't return to minecraft
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#1688 [10:49] <Product> Thanks very much :)
#1689 [10:49] <Product> Guys, I'll brb for 5 minutes.
#1690 [10:51] <slingshot> this is crazy i can't run the game but paid yesterday with confirmation...........slingshot12
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#1692 [10:52] <Gaggles> Hello?
#1693 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> !paid slingshot12
#1694 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> slingshot - What’s is the exact problem you get?
#1695 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> slingshot - Are you able to connect with the downloaded client?
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#1697 [10:53] <slingshot> i don't know but cvannot run the game
#1698 [10:53] <slingshot> what is the downloadedclient
#1699 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> Please download the client from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
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#1701 [10:54] <bellows> help plz
#1702 [10:54] <slingshot> ok what program do i run it with
#1703 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Add .exe to the end of the file you downloaded with
#1704 [10:54] <GreyVulpine> Then try running it again
#1705 [10:54] <adustybroom> vulpine r u a bot too?
#1706 [10:54] <adustybroom> is greyvulpine a bot too?
#1707 [10:55] <Gaggles> No
#1708 [10:55] <bellows> can u help me plz
#1709 [10:55] <Gaggles> Vulpine, do you know how to make the game stop crashing 5-10 minutes into it
#1710 [10:55] <slingshot> thanks i will try that
#1711 [10:56] <Gaggles> I'm on Win7, 64 bit, 4 GB RAM
#1712 [10:56] <Gaggles> latest java
#1713 [10:56] <adustybroom> vulpine when ur done helping him could u help me?
#1714 [10:56] <adustybroom> ok bellows
#1715 [10:56] <adustybroom> ill help
#1716 [10:56] <adustybroom> while im waiting fo rvulpine
#1717 [10:56] <bellows> every time i make a lvl it deletes its self
#1718 [10:56] <adustybroom> well then first of all delete .minecraft and run the launcher again
#1719 [10:57] <adustybroom> its always the first step
#1720 [10:57] <bellows> k
#1721 [10:57] <adustybroom> do u know hoe to get to ur .minecraft?
#1722 [10:57] <Gaggles> GreyVulpine: do you know how to make the game stop crashing 5-10 minutes into it, I'm on Win7, 64 bit, 4 GB RAM, Latest Java.
#1723 [10:57] <bellows> yh
#1724 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Gaggles - Do you get an error report?
#1725 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Please pastebin.com it if you do
#1726 [10:57] <adustybroom> ok good
#1727 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> adustybroom - What is your porblem?
#1728 [10:57] <Gaggles> No, it just stops wokring
#1729 [10:58] <Gaggles> On the Task manager, it says it's still running, but when I try to end it it doesn't respond
#1730 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> Gaggles - Please look at where you have minecraft.exe, do you get any files that are named hs_err_pid?
#1731 [10:58] <adustybroom> oh well whenever i try and run the launcher and update the game it just says fatal error 4 permission denied:connect
#1732 [10:58] <Gaggles> Hang on
#1733 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> adustybroom - Looks like perhaps some kind of security software or firewall blocking java from connecting
#1734 [10:59] <adustybroom> someone informed me it may have been my norton internet security
#1735 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> adustybroom - That’s a very likely cause
#1736 [10:59] <Gaggles> No, i didn't see that file
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#1740 [11:00] <mib_g69cj7> what can i do if i get fatal error 4??
#1741 [11:00] <mib_g69cj7> is there eny solutions?
#1742 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_g69cj7 - What’s the full error?
#1743 [11:00] <Gaggles> GreyVulpine: I didn't see any file that said that
#1744 [11:01] <mib_g69cj7> connection reset¨
#1745 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> Gaggles - Hmm, can you try, first off, uninstalling and reinstalling java
#1746 [11:01] <Gaggles> I did, but I'll try again
#1747 [11:01] <mib_g69cj7> done it dint work
#1748 [11:01] <hipy> why cant a piston pull a piston?
#1749 [11:01] <hipy> :p
#1750 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_g69cj7 - What, is the full error?
#1751 [11:01] <hipy> i am trying to replicate that door:p
#1752 [11:01] <dark2> I cannot get minecraft to run without closing itself in a matter of seconds. I'm running Ubuntu 10.10, Sun JVM
#1753 [11:01] <mib_g69cj7> it says connection resset
#1754 [11:03] <kils11> i have question wich video cart do i have to get to play minecraft becaese with this one (5-7years old) it doesn't work
#1755 [11:04] <Gaggles> kils11: Try searching it on Can you Run it {google it}
#1756 [11:04] <kils11> minecraft doen't stand true it try already
#1757 [11:04] <Gaggles> ?
#1758 [11:05] <kils11> minecraft is not in the list of can you run it i try it before
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#1760 [11:06] <Gaggles> Oh.
#1761 [11:06] <kils11> any solution?
#1762 [11:06] <Gaggles> Most graphics cards work with it
#1763 [11:06] <Gaggles> You said yours was realyl old
#1764 [11:07] <Gaggles> Hang on a sec
#1765 [11:07] <kils11> k
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#1767 [11:07] <dark2> Senjai, still in that session thing?
#1768 [11:09] <kils11> btw i have a nvida gforce fx 5200
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#1770 [11:09] <guacamole> How do you get the new update
#1771 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Just relaunch minecraft
#1772 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> It’ll download it automatically
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#1774 [11:10] <struppi> hello
#1775 [11:10] <struppi> anyone online here ?
#1776 [11:10] <oldtopmanserver> no
#1777 [11:10] <hipy> hi, i try to push one piston with the other(stickey) but it wont work:S
#1778 [11:10] <redfame> anyone know where minecraft.jar is ( not the executable one)?
#1779 [11:10] <guacamole> it is saying that i can't connect to minecraft.net
#1780 [11:10] <struppi> the second one must be offline
#1781 [11:10] <struppi> @hipy
#1782 [11:11] <guacamole> yep
#1783 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> redfame - What oeprating system are you on?
#1784 [11:11] <redfame> windows 7
#1785 [11:11] <guacamole> Windows
#1786 [11:11] <guacamole> 7
#1787 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1788 [11:11] <struppi> i got a problem with my fps, i would need to limit it to 60 fps or 120
#1789 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder, it’ll be in the bin folder inside
#1790 [11:12] <guacamole> yep
#1791 [11:12] <struppi> as seen here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/417075-set-max-fps-in-numbers/
#1792 [11:12] <redfame> k
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#1794 [11:13] <dark2> I cannot get minecraft to run without closing itself in a matter of seconds. I'm running Ubuntu 10.10, Sun JVM
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#1796 [11:13] <redfame> it says "invalid or corrupt jarfile"
#1797 [11:14] <redfame> wats dat
#1798 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> What exactly says that redfame?
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#1800 [11:14] <redfame> when i open it
#1801 [11:14] <Gaggles> GreyVulpine: It still froze after reinstalling Java
#1802 [11:14] <redfame> error message
#1803 [11:14] <hipy> heh i have trouble moving pistons on pistons
#1804 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> redfame - How are you openiing it?
#1805 [11:15] <visgokei> hay, i have a problem with my launcher
#1806 [11:15] <redfame> double klik and left klik/open
#1807 [11:15] <Gaggles> click
#1808 [11:15] <hipy> if i use a sticky piston on a sticky piston it doesnt work, it does push but does not retract
#1809 [11:16] <visgokei> i just cannot get the new launcher, even not by uninstall and redownload everything ._.
#1810 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> redfame - Try opening it with winrar or 7zip
#1811 [11:16] <Gaggles> GreyVulpine: After reinstalling java it still froze
#1812 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> Gaggles - Could you try using these instructions: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
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#1814 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> Gaggles - Let me know if there’s any errors you get with that
#1815 [11:17] <Gaggles> Okay, i'm going to have to go offline very soon, but I'll keep those instructions and see if they work
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#1818 [11:18] <struppi> i would need to limit the ingame fps to 60 because of the noise of my monitor, how to do that ?
#1819 [11:19] <redfame> Thanks GreyVulpine, it worked
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#1822 [11:19] <Sledgehammer90> hi
#1823 [11:19] <Sledgehammer90> anyone there?
#1824 [11:20] <Sledgehammer90> i keep getting this error while running my server: StackOverflowError
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#1826 [11:21] <Sledgehammer90> can anyone help me with this?
#1827 [11:23] <Gaggles> @GreyVulpine: When I run the batch file, it says "'java' is not recognised as an internal or , external command
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#1830 [11:25] <Sledgehammer90> can anyone help me with the StackOverflowError on the server?
#1831 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Gaggles - Hmm..
#1832 [11:25] <Sledgehammer90> loads of people having that error
#1833 [11:25] <dark2> I cannot get minecraft to run without closing itself in a matter of seconds. I'm running Ubuntu 10.10, Sun JVM
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#1835 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> Gaggles - could you try uninstaling it with:
#1836 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> ??> Gaggles win/javara
#1837 [11:26] <VoxelHead> Gaggles: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1838 [11:26] <VoxelHead> Gaggles: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
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#1841 [11:27] <Gaggles> Okay, i'll try that
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#1843 [11:28] <struppi> still waiting with my fps problem :(
#1844 [11:29] <struppi> would need to limit my minecraft fps because with the 500+ fps the monitor makes strange noises
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#1847 [11:32] <Sledgehammer90> struppi why even bother? they never respond lol
#1848 [11:32] <Sledgehammer90> they help 1 person per hour
#1849 [11:32] <Sledgehammer90> =_=
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#1852 [11:35] <struppi> looks like
#1853 [11:35] <b0xxy> just gott wait aroujd
#1854 [11:35] <b0xxy> simple as that
#1855 [11:35] <struppi> yes im waiting
#1856 [11:35] <struppi> and waiting on forum
#1857 [11:35] <struppi> nothing happens
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#1859 [11:35] <b0xxy> yeh you could be waitin 5hours
#1860 [11:35] <dark2> Well you'd expect with 169 people in the room someone would be here to help
#1861 [11:35] <struppi> and its a simple question
#1862 [11:35] <b0xxy> there offering a free help channel
#1863 [11:35] <mib_w3q2cd> I bought the program but cannot run it. It asks for my username and password but keeps telling me it's wrong even though I know it isn't. I did buy it for someone else, a gift code, is that why I can't download it on my comp?
#1864 [11:36] <b0xxy> not like u paid for this
#1865 [11:36] <b0xxy> lucky its even here
#1866 [11:36] <struppi> go to the homepage and change your password mib_w3q2cd
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#1869 [11:37] <Sledgehammer90> b0xxy, if you offer a help channel > do it correctly
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#1872 [11:37] <Sledgehammer90> provide active support, or none at all
#1873 [11:37] <Sledgehammer90> comes down to the same
#1874 [11:37] <b0xxy> shut up and stop complaing
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#1876 [11:38] <Sprremix> Hello all
#1877 [11:38] <b0xxy> struppi
#1878 [11:38] <b0xxy> 1. Open Minecraft and log in
#1879 [11:38] <b0xxy> 2. Click on Options and set Limit Framerate to ON and Graphis to FAST
#1880 [11:38] <b0xxy> 3. Set Render distance to SHORT
#1881 [11:38] <mib_hb68yr> my minecraft keeps crashing
#1882 [11:38] <dark2> Well b0xxy we can complain if we damn well like, if it's a support channel I expect some support
#1883 [11:38] <Sprremix> It says my account is not premium (running on 1.7_01), do you guys know whats going on??
#1884 [11:38] <charmander> Hello, i did just add a texture pack and when i start minecraft it starts but suddenleny the screen goes black and no error comes up
#1885 [11:39] <Sledgehammer90> charmander
#1886 [11:39] <b0xxy> lol, its a free support channel. you think with an attidue like this you guys will get help?
#1887 [11:39] <struppi> b0xxy ther is no "Limit Framerate"
#1888 [11:39] <Sledgehammer90> you need to HD patch
#1889 [11:39] <b0xxy> admin arnt robots...maybe there asleep?
#1890 [11:39] <Sledgehammer90> look for the MCpatcher
#1891 [11:39] <Sledgehammer90> the entire day?
#1892 [11:39] <dark2> free or not free has no difference
#1893 [11:39] <mib_hb68yr> my minecraft keeps crashing
#1894 [11:39] <Sledgehammer90> i'm here for a fucking long time
#1895 [11:39] <Sledgehammer90> still no help
#1896 [11:39] <b0xxy> maybe the ppl that are here dont have an answer for u
#1897 [11:39] <Sledgehammer90> then they can tell me so
#1898 [11:39] <b0xxy> sound like a bunch of women.
#1899 [11:39] <Sledgehammer90> instead of ignoring me
#1900 [11:40] <Sledgehammer90> i'm not the only one having that problem
#1901 [11:40] <mib_hb68yr> some onen help! who the fuck is the helper on this?
#1902 [11:40] <Sprremix> so does anybody else have problem with "account not premium"?
#1903 [11:40] <Sprremix> I changed my password already :/
#1904 [11:40] <Sledgehammer90> do you have a keycode? xD
#1905 [11:40] <Sprremix> a wat o_o?
#1906 [11:41] <Sledgehammer90> a code that's required to play MC
#1907 [11:41] <mib_hb68yr> SUM ONE FUCKING HEKLP
#1908 [11:41] <Sprremix> oh fuck, maybe its because im not connected to mc.net :|
#1909 [11:41] <Sledgehammer90> duh xD
#1910 [11:41] <Sledgehammer90> mib, what's the problem son?
#1911 [11:41] <mib_hb68yr> HELLO??
#1912 [11:41] <Sprremix> i cant make connection :/
#1913 [11:41] <Sledgehammer90> keep trying spr, it will work
#1914 [11:41] <Sledgehammer90> had the same problem
#1915 [11:41] <mib_hb68yr> thank you, ive tryed to play mincraft and it keeps crashing
#1916 [11:42] <Sledgehammer90> does it give an error?
#1917 [11:42] <Sledgehammer90> or just a black screen?
#1918 [11:42] <mib_hb68yr> yah
#1919 [11:42] <mib_hb68yr> error
#1920 [11:42] <Sledgehammer90> what error?
#1921 [11:42] <b0xxy> rofl @ this channel. cya later. im going to bed
#1922 [11:42] <Sprremix> night b0xxy
#1923 [11:42] <Sledgehammer90> cya
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#1925 [11:42] <mib_hb68yr> idk, it freezes then gets all wierd
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#1927 [11:42] <Sledgehammer90> at the end, does it give an error message?
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#1929 [11:42] <Sledgehammer90> like java failure?
#1930 [11:43] <mib_hb68yr> let me chek
#1931 [11:43] <Sprremix> hurray im connected :D
#1932 [11:43] <Sledgehammer90> good :)
#1933 [11:43] <Sledgehammer90> have fun mate
#1934 [11:43] <Sprremix> yea thanks for the little support :P
#1935 [11:43] <Sledgehammer90> no problem :P
#1936 [11:44] <Sledgehammer90> at least somebody has to do it
#1937 [11:44] <Sprremix> yea
#1938 [11:44] <mib_hb68yr> yeah, it doesnt have a specific error code
#1939 [11:44] <Sledgehammer90> thats weird
#1940 [11:44] <mib_hb68yr> ik
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#1942 [11:44] <Sledgehammer90> does everything turn invisible and do you seem to fall?
#1943 [11:44] <mib_wiy7lm> hey i need help i just got the update and when i try to start the game before that main menu loads i get a black screen. can anyone help
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#1945 [11:45] <mib_hb68yr> i cant even play
#1946 [11:45] <mib_hb68yr> uit'
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#1949 [11:45] <rypa> Hi!
#1950 [11:45] <Sledgehammer90> mib_wiy7lm: use the HD patcher (MC patcher)
#1951 [11:45] <mib_hb68yr> me?
#1952 [11:45] <rypa> Hi!
#1953 [11:45] <Sledgehammer90> no, the other guy
#1954 [11:45] <rypa> Hi!
#1955 [11:45] <mib_hb68yr> k
#1956 [11:45] <rypa> Hello?
#1957 [11:45] <rypa> lol
#1958 [11:45] <mib_wiy7lm> thanks do i just search it on google
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#1960 [11:46] <Sledgehammer90> rypa hi :P
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#1962 [11:46] <Sledgehammer90> ehm mib_hb68yr, try doing the same
#1963 [11:46] <Sledgehammer90> use the HD patcher (MC patcher)
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#1965 [11:46] <Sledgehammer90> come back if that doesnt work
#1966 [11:46] <mib_hb68yr> it sed aldce158 i think
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#1968 [11:47] <Sledgehammer90> else you have to edit some stuff in your java sockets
#1969 [11:47] <mib_hb68yr> me?
#1970 [11:47] <Sledgehammer90> yeah
#1971 [11:47] <mib_hb68yr> how
#1972 [11:47] <Sledgehammer90> just google: mcpatcher-2.1.0_02
#1973 [11:47] <Sledgehammer90> that's the one you need
#1974 [11:47] <mib_hb68yr> ok
#1975 [11:47] <Sledgehammer90> let it patch
#1976 [11:47] <Sledgehammer90> if that doesnt work, contact me again
#1977 [11:48] <Sledgehammer90> so, anyone there to finally help me?
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#1980 [11:51] <Sledgehammer90> is anyone ever giving support?
#1981 [11:51] <L551> Doesn't seem like it right now
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#1983 [11:52] <rypa> yes..
#1984 [11:52] <rypa> HELLO!
#1985 [11:52] <Sledgehammer90> HELLO
#1986 [11:52] <rypa> So
#1987 [11:52] <rypa> I have a question
#1988 [11:52] <Sledgehammer90> i'm on this channel for like 8 hours already
#1989 [11:52] <Sledgehammer90> tell me rypa?
#1990 [11:53] <rypa> My friend said it took litterary ages for mojang to answer ur recovery question form thing
#1991 [11:53] <rypa> IS this true?
#1992 [11:53] <Sledgehammer90> i bet i've helped more people today than those guys together
#1993 [11:53] <Sledgehammer90> yeah
#1994 [11:53] <Sledgehammer90> mojang guys are lazy
#1995 [11:53] <rypa> So does it take Ages
#1996 [11:53] <rypa> It does..
#1997 [11:53] <Sledgehammer90> jup
#1998 [11:53] <Sledgehammer90> i'm on this channel for 9 hours
#1999 [11:53] <rypa> I am going to drive to Sweden right now (Live in Norway)
#2000 [11:53] * xolotl wonders what a litterary age is.
#2000 [11:54] <Sledgehammer90> posted my forum post a while ago
#2001 [11:54] <rypa> And I am going to kick them in the nuts
#2002 [11:54] * xolotl ducks
#2002 [11:54] <Sledgehammer90> still no answer
#2003 [11:54] <Sledgehammer90> cool
#2004 [11:54] <Sledgehammer90> kick some balls for me too :D
#2005 [11:54] <rypa> I got hacked :L
#2006 [11:54] <rypa> =(
#2007 [11:54] <Sledgehammer90> rly?
#2008 [11:54] <Sledgehammer90> that sucks
#2009 [11:54] <rypa> Yes
#2010 [11:54] <xolotl> To be fair, it's probably a combination of "lazy" plus "omggigantic volume of email to get through"
#2011 [11:54] <Sledgehammer90> Mojang doesnt seem to realize how important their community is
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#2013 [11:55] <xolotl> What they really Should do is just hire someone whose sole job is to sift through email; there's no way they could get through it with the staffing they have, IMO
#2014 [11:55] <rypa> I am going to...
#2015 [11:55] <rypa> Yeah xolot
#2016 [11:55] <Sledgehammer90> xolotl, how about hiring some more community people to keep up with this email spamm
#2017 [11:55] <rypa> :[
#2018 [11:55] <rypa> I want mya ccount back >_<
#2019 [11:55] <rypa> My*
#2020 [11:55] <Sledgehammer90> there are 2 ways of giving support : great support, or no support at all
#2021 [11:55] <Ackmey> Hello
#2022 [11:55] <rypa> They are..
#2023 [11:55] <Sledgehammer90> what they are doing is saying they give the first, but doing the last
#2024 [11:55] <xolotl> Sledgehammer90: Well, I wouldn't trust the "community" to do that, but someone certainly could. Alas!
#2025 [11:55] <rypa> "Nearly"
#2026 [11:56] <rypa> Okay
#2027 [11:56] <Ackmey> Can anyone help with a quick cactus farming question?
#2028 [11:56] <xolotl> Sledgehammer90: Well no - they actually explicitly say that they provide no support whatsoever, for anything but payment issues
#2029 [11:56] <rypa> They send a message really quick "Mojang is reviewing"
#2030 [11:56] <Sledgehammer90> xolotl
#2031 [11:56] <rypa> So I expect them to read my form quick
#2032 [11:56] <rypa> 24 hrs later
#2033 [11:56] <Sledgehammer90> how do you call the ticket system?
#2034 [11:56] <rypa> Still no friggin answer
#2035 [11:56] <rypa> lol
#2036 [11:56] <Sledgehammer90> this IRC channel?
#2037 [11:56] <Sledgehammer90> Official Minecraft support channel
#2038 [11:56] <Sledgehammer90> my ass
#2039 [11:57] <Sledgehammer90> Official Minecraft fuckyoucommunity channel
#2040 [11:57] <Sledgehammer90> their game is buggy as hell
#2041 [11:57] <xolotl> Sledgehammer90: This channel is sort of officially-unofficial. Or whatever.
#2042 [11:57] <Sledgehammer90> which would be fine if they provided any support
#2043 [11:57] <Sledgehammer90> or any hotfixes
#2044 [11:57] <xolotl> Sledgehammer90: There are no Mojang staff in here, nor was there ever intended to be
#2045 [11:57] <xolotl> Sledgehammer90: For awhile mollstam was in here occasionally, but this is completely volunteer-run
#2046 [11:57] <Sledgehammer90> that shows how great that company is
#2047 [11:57] * xolotl shrugs
#2047 [11:58] <Sledgehammer90> i bet i've helped more people today than they did ever in their life
#2048 [11:58] <xolotl> Regardless, their official policy has always been that they don't really provide support. So it is what it is.
#2049 [11:58] <Sledgehammer90> because they are lazy
#2050 [11:58] <Sledgehammer90> look at the bigger games, with huge community
#2051 [11:58] <xolotl> Could be. I don't see how this conversation will provide any more use, though, so we should just drop it
#2052 [11:58] <Sledgehammer90> like League of Legends
#2053 [11:58] <L551> If they make a game, they should provide some support rather than "figure it out yourself"
#2054 [11:58] <Sledgehammer90> they provide support within the hour
#2055 [11:58] <xolotl> Complaining about lack of support from Mojang won't get you support.
#2056 [11:59] <Sledgehammer90> hotfixes with 10 hours
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#2058 [11:59] <Sledgehammer90> THATS the way it should be
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#2060 [11:59] <Sledgehammer90> since your community is the most important thing of all
#2061 [11:59] <xolotl> Sledgehammer90: Sure, but it isn't. Feel free to contact Mojang about it, but nobody here has the ability to change that.
#2062 [11:59] <mib_3dhg2q> I cannot find where to put the code for the purchase.
#2063 [11:59] <xolotl> (so again, complaining about it in here accomplishes nothing)
#2064 [12:00] <mib_3dhg2q> What I mean is I already bought it and logged in but can't find the place to put the code.
#2065 [12:00] <Sledgehammer90> i will, i will even volunteer to help people out
#2066 [12:00] <xolotl> mib_3dhg2q: http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp
#2067 [12:00] <xolotl> mib_3dhg2q: If you're talking about a gift code, anyway.
#2068 [12:00] <Sledgehammer90> but yet again, they won't read that mail
#2069 [12:00] <Sledgehammer90> derp
#2070 [12:00] <mib_3dhg2q> Thanks!
#2071 [12:00] <xolotl> Sledgehammer90: And yet again, quit complaining about it in here. It accomplishes nothing.
#2072 [12:00] <Sledgehammer90> i'm sorry mate, but i'm waiting for at least 9 hours for someone to fucking respond
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#2074 [12:03] <Sledgehammer90> anyhow, i'm gonna fetch my dinner
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#2076 [12:04] <cheesytwiglets> hello
#2077 [12:04] * mib_2fdcqv [mib_2fdcqv@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2078 [12:04] <locollama> Hello
#2079 [12:04] <mib_2fdcqv> Hey
#2080 [12:04] <cheesytwiglets> i need help :(
#2081 [12:04] <mib_2fdcqv> I do too lol
#2082 [12:04] <locollama> Same as Cheesy :O
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#2084 [12:04] <xolotl> ?? ask
#2085 [12:04] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2086 [12:04] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#2088 [12:05] <cheesytwiglets> yestarday i payed for the game
#2089 [12:05] <cheesytwiglets> and it dont work
#2090 [12:05] <cheesytwiglets> i have the latest java
#2091 [12:05] <xolotl> cheesytwiglets: What error are you getting?
#2092 [12:05] <cheesytwiglets> well when i try to play in browser, it says done loading for a split second
#2093 [12:05] <mib_f2efba> hey, does anyone know how to get minecraft to run smoothly on a dell 1545 laptop
#2094 [12:05] <cheesytwiglets> and then goes to a white screen
#2095 [12:06] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: Apart from playing around with the various settings in "Video Options?"
#2096 [12:06] <locollama> mib_f2efba: put render distance as far, bobbing off...
#2097 [12:06] <locollama> And some other things
#2098 [12:06] <mib_f2efba> yeah
#2099 [12:06] <mib_f2efba> like
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#2101 [12:06] <locollama> Close everything else for more RAM, maybe
#2102 [12:06] <cheesytwiglets> and when i try download, it will load up then when i sign in it loads up then closes itself
#2103 [12:06] <rypa> NO MATTER BLACK WHITE AND BLUE
#2104 [12:06] <xolotl> cheesytwiglets: Try updating your video drivers; what kind of card do you have?
#2105 [12:07] <InTeStRo> When I launched minecraft, I got a message saying that my copy unlicensed. But when I relaunched the game, it dissappeared.
#2106 [12:07] <xolotl> ??> mib_f2efba win/dxdiag
#2107 [12:07] <cheesytwiglets> lol i dont know,
#2108 [12:07] <VoxelHead> mib_f2efba: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2109 [12:07] <InTeStRo> *my copy is
#2110 [12:07] <VoxelHead> mib_f2efba: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2111 [12:07] <xolotl> cheesytwiglets: ^ you should follow the instructions that VoxelHead just gave to mib_f2efba, as well
#2112 [12:07] <mib_f2efba> thisll help me
#2113 [12:07] <mib_2fdcqv> Ok so I got a free version of minecraft and it was working and then I downloaded TooManyItems INV InGame edit mod and I installed 3 texturepacks and the game was working fine. Then I got the black screen and deleted everything to do with minecraft and i re-downloaded it and it was working fine. Then yesterday I wanted to buy it so I deleted the minecraft and
#2114 [12:08] <cheesytwiglets> hold on.. yestarday it said this...
#2115 [12:08] <raskull> Hi there, I have two accounts under my email address, and the one that owns the copy of the game is "raskullcom", the one I would prefer to use is "raskull". Is there a way to change which one of my accounts owns the game, so my name in game appears as "raskull"?
#2116 [12:08] <BeefyX> lol i was online in here the frikkin full day eh?
#2117 [12:08] <BeefyX> :D:D
#2118 [12:08] <BeefyX> bye
#2119 [12:08] <cheesytwiglets> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6a6f5861, pid=3356, tid=2520 # # JRE version: 6.0_26-b03 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.1-b02 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [aticfx32.dll+0x25861] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: #
#2120 [12:08] <xolotl> raskull: Not at the moment, no
#2121 [12:08] <raskull> ok, thanks
#2122 [12:08] <xolotl> cheesytwiglets: Use a pastebin (like pastebin.com) whenever you paste large amounts of text
#2123 [12:09] <xolotl> InTeStRo: That warning can be a little touchy sometimes; if you did buy the game and it's gone now, I wouldn't worry about it
#2124 [12:09] <locollama> I got a problem too; After several attempts, I can finally log into the game. The loading bar finishes, and the menu background comes up. But no buttons appear, and after a few seconds I get a black screen >.>
#2125 [12:09] <xolotl> locollama: Try updating your video drivers
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#2127 [12:10] <locollama> It always used to work
#2128 [12:10] <xolotl> locollama: I... still stand by my advice.
#2129 [12:10] <locollama> One day it just suddenly... stopped
#2130 [12:10] <xolotl> locollama: Did you install any mods or texture packs immediately before it stopped?
#2131 [12:10] <xolotl> ??> locollama win/reinst
#2132 [12:10] <VoxelHead> locollama: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2133 [12:10] <locollama> I installed a texture pack which I got to play once before the bug started happening
#2134 [12:10] <VoxelHead> locollama: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2135 [12:10] <xolotl> locollama: ^ you could also try that
#2136 [12:11] <xolotl> aha
#2137 [12:11] <xolotl> ??> locollama causality
#2138 [12:11] <VoxelHead> locollama: (causality) If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#2139 [12:11] <VoxelHead> locollama: (causality) Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#2140 [12:11] <xolotl> locollama: Anyway, the instructions given under win/reinst should fix it for you
#2141 [12:11] <locollama> Thanks, I'll give these things a try ^_^
#2142 [12:11] <struppi> Need help here with FPS Limitation !! http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/417075-set-max-fps-in-numbers/
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#2145 [12:12] <mib_f2efba> wats the irc channel
#2146 [12:12] <pachuco> hello
#2147 [12:13] <mib_f2efba> @voxelhead
#2148 [12:13] <pachuco> where can i report a redstone circuit bug?
#2149 [12:13] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: *What* is what IRC channel?
#2150 [12:13] <xolotl> pachuco: getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#2151 [12:13] <pachuco> thanks
#2152 [12:13] <xolotl> pachuco: Notch has been known to watch http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs as well
#2153 [12:13] <mib_f2efba> what is the irc channel
#2154 [12:14] <xolotl> pachuco: May want to search around on either to see if it's already been reported, of course (though getsatisfaction in particular may be difficult to wade through)
#2155 [12:14] <mib_f2efba> hello?
#2156 [12:14] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: I don't think anyone knows what you're asking about. Rephrase your question, and be specific.
#2157 [12:14] <mib_f2efba> ok, do you know wat dxdiag
#2158 [12:14] <mib_f2efba> is
#2159 [12:14] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: "what." It is spelled "what."
#2160 [12:15] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: Not "wat."
#2161 [12:15] <mib_f2efba> ...
#2162 [12:15] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: Okay, so you ran dxdiag, and pasted it into pastebin.com?
#2163 [12:15] <mib_f2efba> yes
#2164 [12:15] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: Okay, just paste the link in here.  THIS is the IRC channel it's talking about. :)
#2165 [12:15] <mib_f2efba> ooh...
#2166 [12:16] <mib_f2efba> how exactly do i do that
#2167 [12:16] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: Up in the URL bar of your browser, there's something like "http://pastebin.com/DaEZJ8R1" - select it, do Ctrl-C, and then do a Ctrl-V inside here
#2168 [12:17] <mib_f2efba> ok
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#2170 [12:17] <mib_f2efba> http://pastebin.com/eq0wN64L
#2171 [12:17] <mib_f2efba> is that right
#2172 [12:17] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: Yep
#2173 [12:17] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: Okay, so your best bet is to update your video drivers
#2174 [12:17] <mib_f2efba> what do i do now
#2175 [12:18] <xolotl> ??> mib_f2efba gpu/intel
#2176 [12:18] <mib_f2efba> how
#2177 [12:18] <VoxelHead> mib_f2efba: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2178 [12:18] <mib_f2efba> doesit cost anything
#2179 [12:18] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: Nope
#2180 [12:18] <mib_f2efba> ok
#2181 [12:19] <mib_f2efba> what do i do now, im on the site
#2182 [12:20] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: This is probably the one you want: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19936&ProdId=2991&lang=eng
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#2184 [12:21] <mib_f2efba> Thank you
#2185 [12:21] <mib_f2efba> im downloading it right now
#2186 [12:21] <Guest2942> Does anyone know if redstone pulses still work in 1.7, And if so, Whats the best setup?
#2187 [12:22] <xolotl> Guest2942: the wiki should have pulse configurations that work. AFAIK they still work in 1.7
#2188 [12:22] <xolotl> (though note that using the "/time" command is known to break clocks)
#2189 [12:22] <Guest2942> I've tried a couple of them, but they tend to only do one run then stop working.
#2190 [12:22] <Guest2942> I'm trying to use it for an automatic piston wall maker if that helps.
#2191 [12:23] <mib_f2efba> it said it wasnt appropriate for my computer
#2192 [12:23] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: Hm, could be that you are on a 64-bit Windows; didn't see it in dxdiag, but I could have missed it. Could try this one: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19939&ProdId=2991&lang=eng
#2193 [12:24] <xolotl> Guest2942: In the past I've found that sometimes the order in which you lay down torches can matter. Also I think some are touchier about the orientation (north-south or east-west) etc
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#2195 [12:24] <xolotl> Guest2942: I don't have any recent experience, but if you follow the specs from the wiki and keep trying, you should get it working
#2196 [12:25] <Guest2942> Ahk, i'll keep trying, So long as i know they still work. Cheers.
#2197 [12:25] <mib_f2efba> thank you
#2198 [12:25] <xolotl> Guest2942: It's possible, of course, that a recent update broke some thing, though it'd probably have been mentioned at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history if so
#2199 [12:25] <Chris__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUGnYySJX-s :(
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#2201 [12:26] <voegi> hi
#2202 [12:27] <voegi> I was here yesterday and no one gave me an answer
#2203 [12:27] <mib_f2efba> it said my computer didnt meet the minimum requirements for it
#2204 [12:27] <mib_f2efba> whats your problem
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#2206 [12:28] <voegi> I've updated the server and runned with another name (than the old jar)
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#2208 [12:28] <voegi> the server created a new map
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#2210 [12:28] <voegi> some user told me to replace the old version with the new one
#2211 [12:28] <mib_f2efba> yeah, i dont know anything about servers, try youtube
#2212 [12:28] <voegi> I'm still having the problem, that the new map is loaden
#2213 [12:28] <mib_f2efba> youtube
#2214 [12:29] <xolotl> voegi: What exactly did you do, and what do you want to have happen? Be specific.
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#2216 [12:29] <voegi> so now it's just a question: when I've runned the new server with another filename, where my map overritten?
#2217 [12:29] <mr_wibble> hi
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#2219 [12:30] <mib_f2efba> hey xolotl, the update you sent me said that it did not meet the minimum requirements of my computer
#2220 [12:30] <struppi> My Problem: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/417075-set-max-fps-in-numbers/
#2221 [12:30] <voegi> xolotl: I've shutdown the old one / downloaded the new to minecraft_server-new.jar / runned the new server (created a new map...) / then I replaced the old with the new one (as a user told me to do) / then ran again -> the new map is still here
#2222 [12:31] <mr_wibble> When i press yes to the new update it goes to a black screen and then to the back ground of the menu page and then a immediately back to a black screen and nothing happens???
#2223 [12:31] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: Yeah, that's... odd. Dunno. I guess try this one next, but if not then I have no idea why they're not working: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19936&ProdId=2991&lang=eng
#2224 [12:31] <voegi> xolotl: the only thing I want to do is to keep my map on a server update...
#2225 [12:31] <mib_f2efba> ok thanks again
#2226 [12:31] <xolotl> voegi: If you keep the jarfile in the same dir as the old jarfile, and run it the exact same way, then it should automatically keep your old world
#2227 [12:31] <mr_wibble> hello
#2228 [12:32] <mr_wibble> When i press yes to the new update it goes to a black screen and then to the back ground of the menu page and then a immediately back to a black screen and nothing happens???
#2229 [12:32] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: Actually, it looks like that link is the same as the first link I gave you. So yeah - dunno, sorry!
#2230 [12:32] <voegi> xolotl: truely I don't really know if it is the old or new one. my home is somewhere else (not on 0,0) and I've started at 0,0 w/o items...
#2231 [12:32] <jyncks> I have a stinking intel mobile intel 4 series integrated video card. I have the latest driver installed. Is there anyway to play Minecraft without switching video cards as this is a company compute?
#2232 [12:32] <zelda> Just bought minecraft but my computer won't let me install the activeX control thingy, what do I do?
#2233 [12:32] <mr_wibble> When i press yes to the new update it goes to a black screen and then to the back ground of the menu page and then a immediately back to a black screen and nothing happens??
#2234 [12:32] <mr_wibble> help me
#2235 [12:32] <voegi> sry for my bad english ;)
#2236 [12:32] <mr_wibble> please
#2237 [12:32] <xolotl> voegi: Is your new jarfile in the same dir as the old jarfile?
#2238 [12:32] <mr_wibble> When i press yes to the new update it goes to a black screen and then to the back ground of the menu page and then a immediately back to a black screen and nothing happens???
#2239 [12:32] <xolotl> voegi: No problem! :)
#2240 [12:33] <xolotl> mr_wibble: Don't repeat your questions like that
#2241 [12:33] <voegi> xolotl: yes. and I'm running it with a shell script
#2242 [12:33] <voegi> from ~
#2243 [12:33] <mr_wibble> well can you help me?
#2244 [12:33] <xolotl> voegi: Could you patebin the shell script?
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#2246 [12:33] <mr_wibble> When i press yes to the new update it goes to a black screen and then to the back ground of the menu page and then a immediately back to a black screen and nothing happens???
#2247 [12:33] <mr_wibble> When i press yes to the new update it goes to a black screen and then to the back ground of the menu page and then a immediately back to a black screen and nothing happens???
#2248 [12:33] <mr_wibble> When i press yes to the new update it goes to a black screen and then to the back ground of the menu page and then a immediately back to a black screen and nothing happens???
#2249 [12:33] <mr_wibble> ALL
#2250 [12:34] <xolotl> ??> mr_wibble attitude
#2251 [12:34] <VoxelHead> mr_wibble: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
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#2253 [12:34] <VoxelHead> mr_wibble: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-proiority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#2254 [12:34] <mr_wibble> STFU
#2255 [12:34] <mr_wibble> BITCH
#2256 [12:34] <L551> I cannot get minecraft to run without closing itself in a matter of seconds. I'm running Ubuntu 10.10, Sun JVM
#2257 [12:34] <voegi> xolotl: it's just the normal way to start (with memory settings and no gui switch)
#2258 [12:34] <mib_f2efba> HEY
#2259 [12:34] <xolotl> voegi: Could you pastebin it anyway? :)
#2260 [12:34] <mr_wibble> FUCKING
#2261 [12:34] <voegi> shure :)
#2262 [12:34] <mr_wibble> PENIS
#2263 [12:34] <ML08180> Hey, I need some help with a technical problem
#2264 [12:34] <mib_f2efba> HEY
#2265 [12:34] <mr_wibble> WEINER
#2266 [12:34] <mr_wibble> BOP DUN DUN DUNN DUNN UN UN N
#2267 [12:34] <ML08180> ?
#2268 [12:34] <mib_f2efba> calm down mr.wibble
#2269 [12:34] <ML08180> can someone help?
#2270 [12:35] <mr_wibble> WEINER BOP
#2271 [12:35] <ML08180> it's a sound issue
#2272 [12:35] <mr_wibble> When i press yes to the new update it goes to a black screen and then to the back ground of the menu page and then a immediately back to a black screen and nothing happens???
#2273 [12:35] <mr_wibble> When i press yes to the new update it goes to a black screen and then to the back ground of the menu page and then a immediately back to a black screen and nothing happens???
#2274 [12:35] <mr_wibble> When i press yes to the new update it goes to a black screen and then to the back ground of the menu page and then a immediately back to a black screen and nothing happens???
#2275 [12:35] <mr_wibble> When i press yes to the new update it goes to a black screen and then to the back ground of the menu page and then a immediately back to a black screen and nothing happens???
#2276 [12:35] <xolotl> mib_f2efba: I think it's clear he's just a troll. Have to wait for an op to notice
#2277 [12:35] <ML08180> wibble, stop
#2278 [12:35] <mr_wibble> FUCK
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#2280 [12:35] <mr_wibble> YOU
#2281 [12:35] <mib_f2efba> K
#2282 [12:35] <mr_wibble> BITCH
#2283 [12:35] <ML08180> Can someone help me?
#2284 [12:35] <ML08180> I'm having a technical problem
#2285 [12:35] <mr_wibble> TITTY LICKUNG ASS WIPE
#2286 [12:35] <xolotl> Kealper, GreyVulpine, [L]: you guys around?
#2287 [12:35] <voegi> xolotl: http://pastebin.ch/6574
#2288 [12:35] <mr_wibble> YOUR USELESS BITCHES
#2289 [12:35] <mib_f2efba> YOUR MOTHER
#2290 [12:35] <zelda> okay wibble, my 9 year old grandson is here
#2291 [12:35] <keymaster13> how do you update minecraft
#2292 [12:36] <mr_wibble> I DONT CARE
#2293 [12:36] <mr_wibble> ASS HOLE
#2294 [12:36] <mr_wibble> HOW BOUT YOU HELP ME
#2295 [12:36] <mib_f2efba> HELP YOUR SLEF
#2296 [12:36] <mib_f2efba> SELF
#2297 [12:36] <mr_wibble> QUEER
#2298 [12:36] <mr_wibble> FAG
#2299 [12:36] * AuBot kicked mr_wibble from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please keep it civil.)
#2300 [12:36] <ML08180> seriously, stop talking to him
#2301 [12:36] <xolotl> voegi: I'm pretty sure that it'll set its homedir to the directory you run the file from
#2302 [12:36] <ML08180> he's a troll
#2303 [12:36] <ML08180> can anyone help?
#2304 [12:36] <pachuco> im uploading this bug video on youtube an I'll post it here and on the website you told me
#2305 [12:36] <keymaster13> thank god he was kicked
#2306 [12:36] <mib_f2efba> what do ya need
#2307 [12:36] <ML08180> I'm having a sound issue
#2308 [12:36] <ML08180> I can't get the sound to work
#2309 [12:36] <voegi> xolotl: yes, all my configs are in ~ (because I'm just running at ~ in a screen session)
#2310 [12:37] <mib_f2efba> explain
#2311 [12:37] <ML08180> when I turn it on the game closes
#2312 [12:37] <voegi> xolotl: so I have ~/server.properties and ~/world/ and so on
#2313 [12:37] <xolotl> voegi: What I'd recommend is doing something like this: http://pastebin.com/RsjH0qjr
#2314 [12:37] <ML08180> and I've tried renaming the files in .bin, that just disables the sound altogether
#2315 [12:37] <zelda> am I next?
#2316 [12:37] <keymaster13> how do you update minecraft
#2317 [12:37] <xolotl> voegi: So it changes directory into a specific place first, and then runs the GUI; that way you're sure to make sure you've got the correct homedir every time
#2318 [12:37] <ML08180> like, even if the volume is up it won't work
#2319 [12:38] <mib_f2efba> have you looked at your options
#2320 [12:38] <xolotl> voegi: Once you've done that, you'll know for sure that you're using the same server.properties and world dir
#2321 [12:38] <ML08180> keymaster: there's a "force update" button under "options" on the startup screen
#2322 [12:38] <ML08180> and yes
#2323 [12:38] <ML08180> I looked at the options
#2324 [12:38] <voegi> xolotl: ok, I'll try to move all the configs and the world to another folder
#2325 [12:38] <ML08180> that's where i tried turning on the sound
#2326 [12:38] <voegi> and set the dir
#2327 [12:38] <ML08180> when I do the came just closes
#2328 [12:38] <keymaster13> o thanks
#2329 [12:38] <mib_f2efba> ok....ask xolotl
#2330 [12:39] <xolotl> voegi: Are you sure that the "world" dir contains the world you want to yous?
#2331 [12:39] <xolotl> um
#2332 [12:39] <xolotl> voegi: Are you sure that the "world" dir contains the world you want to USE?
#2333 [12:39] <xolotl> "yous".... really? Sheesh.
#2334 [12:39] <pachuco> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNm1DFyu5xs
#2335 [12:39] <xolotl> Good lord, apparently I should've gotten more sleep last night. I don't think I've ever phoenetically-typo'd so hard before.
#2336 [12:39] <pachuco> here is the bugvideo
#2337 [12:39] <voegi> xolotl: ehm, I've seen something :D I've changed the sh and was in bin dir... I'm so dumb! I think it will work :) I'll try and write later again
#2338 [12:40] <xolotl> voegi: kk, sounds good!
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#2340 [12:40] <zelda> I just bought the game but my computer won't let me get the ActiveX control, what do I do?
#2341 [12:40] <mib_f2efba> cool video
#2342 [12:40] <ML08180> mib, you still there?
#2343 [12:40] <ML08180> I need some help still
#2344 [12:40] <mib_f2efba> yo
#2345 [12:40] <ML08180> the sound issue
#2346 [12:40] <xolotl> pachuco: Ah, wouldn't be surprised if there are some bugs w/ circuits and pistons. Probably be a few revs before those get ironed out. Make sure it's on the bug list or getsatisfaction, at least.
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#2348 [12:41] <xolotl> zelda: You can download it from the main "download" link and play it locally, instead of in the browser, if you want.
#2349 [12:41] <mib_f2efba> ok explain one more time exactly what happend
#2350 [12:41] <mib_f2efba> happened
#2351 [12:41] <ML08180> when I turn on the sound the game closes
#2352 [12:41] <mr_pants> Who do I need to contact my son stole my card to set up account?
#2353 [12:41] <mib_f2efba> wierd...
#2354 [12:41] <ML08180> the game sound, not the computer sound
#2355 [12:41] <ML08180> do you know how to fix it?
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#2357 [12:41] <zelda> Okay, will give it a try. Thank you.
#2358 [12:42] <mib_f2efba> im going to do a couple experiments, be bach in a jiffy
#2359 [12:42] <ML08180> kk
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#2362 [12:42] <xolotl> mr_pants: You can contact payment@mojang.com, though they're not renowned for their quick response times. You may have better luck trying to reverse the charges, or the like, at your bank
#2363 [12:43] <mr_pants> Ok thanks we will do that.
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#2365 [12:44] <me2> Is there any way to play Minecraft with a crappy Mobile Intel 4 Chipset? I've updated the drivers and it still won't work.
#2366 [12:44] <mib_f2efba> ML, do you have headphones in plugged in your computer
#2367 [12:44] <struppi> please some statement ! http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/417075-set-max-fps-in-numbers/
#2368 [12:44] <ML08180> yes
#2369 [12:44] <ML08180> but it won't play out of headphones or speakers
#2370 [12:44] <ML08180> it's the game itself
#2371 [12:44] <ML08180> I can play other sound just fine
#2372 [12:45] <mib_f2efba> try taking them out
#2373 [12:45] <xolotl> me2: Intel chips do pose some problems. What does the "Driver Date/Size:" field say on your dxdiag output under Display Devices?
#2374 [12:45] <ML08180> I've tried that before
#2375 [12:45] <ML08180> it still didn't work
#2376 [12:45] <ML08180> I can play any other sound without a problem
#2377 [12:45] <mib_f2efba> ok, im still expirementing\
#2378 [12:46] <me2> 9/9/2008
#2379 [12:46] <ML08180> it's the minecraft files OpenAL32 and OpenAL64
#2380 [12:46] <xolotl> me2: Yeah, that doesn't sound actually-updated. Intel's most recent drivers for the Mobile Intel 4 was released in 2011
#2381 [12:46] <ML08180> if I take them out I can still use the sound
#2382 [12:46] <xolotl> ??> me2 gpu/intel
#2383 [12:46] <ML08180> but
#2384 [12:46] <VoxelHead> me2: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2385 [12:46] <ML08180> well
#2386 [12:46] <ML08180> actually it's more of I can turn the volume on without them
#2387 [12:46] <me2> just grab the latest version then?
#2388 [12:46] <ML08180> but no sounds are made
#2389 [12:47] <xolotl> me2: Yeah.
#2390 [12:47] <xolotl> me2: That's your best shot, anyway.
#2391 [12:47] <me2> thx
#2392 [12:47] <xolotl> me2: If that doesn't do the trick (make sure your dxdiag output shows you using the new one), there may be one other thing to try, so let us know.
#2393 [12:47] <me2> will do
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#2397 [12:48] <voegi> xolotl: thank you very much! you've saved me from my own stupidity :D
#2398 [12:48] <xolotl> voegi: :) Glad it's working!
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#2400 [12:49] <voegi> whish a nice evening (or whatever you actually have)
#2401 [12:49] <voegi> bye bye :)
#2402 [12:49] <mib_f2efba> does anyone know why my miinecraft acount keeps crashing
#2403 [12:49] <xolotl> voegi: Gotta get through an afternoon first, but it still applies. :) You too!
#2404 [12:49] <P4vLOx> hello, how can i change my email address ?
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#2408 [12:50] <xolotl> P4vLOx: I don't think it's possible to do so at the moment
#2409 [12:51] <xolotl> P4vLOx: Yeah, not possible. IMO that's one of the most egregious things that Mojang hasn't fixed yet.
#2410 [12:51] <P4vLOx> not good. :/
#2411 [12:52] <aded> When I try to start Minecraft I get a message as follows: org.1wjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel foramt not accelerated. What does this mean and how do I get to play the game?
#2412 [12:52] <xolotl> aded: Update your graphics drivers
#2413 [12:52] <aded> How do i go that?
#2414 [12:52] <xolotl> aded: Do you know what kind of graphics card you have?
#2415 [12:52] <aded> No
#2416 [12:53] <P4vLOx> maybe if i write email to notch he can do something with my problem
#2417 [12:53] <xolotl> aded: Running Windows, I assume?
#2418 [12:53] <aded> Yes
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#2420 [12:53] <xolotl> P4vLOx: You can try emailing support@mojang.com; they don't offer official support, though.
#2421 [12:53] <xolotl> ??> aded win/dxdiag
#2422 [12:53] <VoxelHead> aded: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2423 [12:53] <VoxelHead> aded: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2425 [12:54] <Kaydee> I just bought Minecraft and will be buying a new computer soon. Can I download the game more than once?
#2426 [12:54] <xolotl> Kaydee: Yep, you can download as many times as you want
#2427 [12:54] <Kaydee> Okay, thanks!!
#2428 [12:57] <struppi> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/417075-set-max-fps-in-numbers/
#2429 [12:58] <xolotl> struppi: Yes yes, we've all seen you paste that a million times now. This is not a forum, it is IRC.
#2430 [12:58] <xolotl> struppi: If you have a feature request, tweet it to the team, or post it at getsatisfaction.com/mojang (or just add yourself to a probably-already-existing one at getsatisfaction)
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#2433 [13:01] <struppi> i heard there was a funktion sometime
#2434 [13:01] <struppi> so the client should parse it
#2435 [13:01] <struppi> i only need to know the naming of the variable
#2436 [13:01] <Lexe> is it possible that the server file of 1.7 isnt larger nor smaller than the 1.6 ? :( im looking on minecraft.net but not finding itl ol
#2437 [13:02] <xolotl> struppi: The only options currently available for vsync are the ones in the 'video options' screen.
#2438 [13:03] <xolotl> Lexe: All the minecraft_server.jar releases from 1.7.x are bigger than all the minecraft_server.jar releases from 1.6.x
#2439 [13:03] <xolotl> Lexe: I assume that the same's probably true of the EXE version
#2440 [13:03] <Lexe> That would mean i cant get it from minecraft.net then ?
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#2442 [13:04] <xolotl> Lexe: Works fine for me.
#2443 [13:04] <Lexe> can you link me to the page please
#2444 [13:04] <xolotl> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp ?
#2445 [13:04] <xolotl> Or just "minecraft.net" and then click "Download?"
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#2447 [13:05] <Lexe> yeah im on that page but , the file minecraftt-server.jar is 491kb, and so is my 1.6 server file :(
#2448 [13:06] <sockmister> I have tried the advice but get as far as Save all Info button save to desktop but then it does not work -
#2449 [13:06] <xolotl> Lexe: Have you ever used any cracked version of Minecraft?
#2450 [13:06] <Lexe> lol no...and im hosting a rented server
#2451 [13:06] <Lexe> but they had installed 1.6 for me
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#2453 [13:06] <Lexe> just looking for the 1.7 server file
#2454 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> The 1.7.2 file is on the website
#2455 [13:07] <xolotl> Lexe: Yeah, dunno. I double-checked, and the link at minecraft.net is definitely pulling 1.7.2.
#2456 [13:07] * GreyVulpine nods
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#2457 [13:08] <Lexe> ok i might have a sunstroke, but how can you tell what version it is ^^
#2458 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> F3
#2459 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Er, wait, on the server?
#2460 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> It’ll tell you on the first time, when you launch it
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#2462 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Be aware, that we’re talking about the vanilla server here. If you’re running bukkit, you’re out of luck
#2463 [13:08] <Lexe> argh ok, ill go ahead and download it then
#2464 [13:09] <aded> I am still trying to get this up and running. Get message Org.1wjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated. Got as far as Win + R keys typed in dx diag enter clicked on "Save all Info button" save to desktop - after that it 's non sense - can someone please help
#2465 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> aded - Please go to the file that you saved to the desktop. Open it up.
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#2467 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> aded - Copy everything inside there, and go to http://www.pastebin.com - Paste it there. Press the submit button, then give us the address to it
#2468 [13:11] <Lexe> sigh, it still starts 1.6.6 -> 2011-07-01 12:08:26 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.6.6
#2469 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> Lexe - Are you using bukkit?
#2470 [13:12] <Lexe> yeah
#2471 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
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#2473 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit builds use a different binary. If you want to upgrade and keep on top of the custom modded bukkit server, you’ll want to be in #bukkit instead
#2474 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> For now, go here: http://goo.gl/g75gF
#2475 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> That’ll give you the binary for the 1.7.2 release candidate for bukkit
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#2477 [13:14] <Lexe> ah thank you
#2478 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> Be aware, that 1.7 does contain some nasty piston bugs, and there’s very popular dupe bug with pistons
#2479 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> I highly recommend backing up your map
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#2482 [13:16] <aded> The address is http://pastebin.com/SPYTicUd
#2483 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> aded - You’re running a NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE video card, on Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit
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#2485 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> The driver you want to download and install are here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-275.33-whql-driver.html
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#2487 [13:20] <hipy> so, are the servers going to be down every evening...
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#2489 [13:21] <xolotl> hipy: They were working fine for me last night
#2490 [13:21] <xolotl> hipy: Regardless, we are not Mojang, and have no control over official servers
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#2494 [13:27] <mib_en7v13> i have a question
#2495 [13:28] <mib_en7v13> if i want to download the newest version 1.7 i get an fatal error(4) couldn't load packages, ghow does this come?
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#2498 [13:30] <mib_qrbf7l> hey
#2499 [13:31] <___import__> mib_qrbf7l, delete your launcher, and download it again
#2500 [13:32] <___import__> also make sure your clock is set, etc
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#2504 [13:37] <derrok> Hi
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#2507 [13:37] <YwN> Anyone here?
#2508 [13:38] <sproing> uhm i need help
#2509 [13:38] <curmet> hey i downloada mincraft texturee pack and it has stop my mincraft from working you can log in and everything butt then it just shhow dirt like when your supost to see the single playeer and multi player
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#2511 [13:38] <Nizahe> hello atm new update?
#2512 [13:38] <derrok> I need help
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#2514 [13:38] <WaaZa> Hello
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#2516 [13:38] <YwN> i also need help, i dont think anyone is here tho
#2517 [13:38] <Nizahe> lol
#2518 [13:38] <___import__> curmet, you need the HD patcher
#2519 [13:38] <sproing> ya seems like it hahha
#2520 [13:38] <xolotl> YwN: 174 people are here
#2521 [13:38] <YwN> i think someone is trying to steal my account at the moment >.<
#2522 [13:39] <xolotl> (well, some of those are bots)
#2523 [13:39] <dglink12> who knows how to install a mod
#2524 [13:39] <sproing> when i log on it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#2525 [13:39] <WaaZa> When i'm logging into minecraft, It says Can't connect to minecraft.net
#2526 [13:39] <sproing> when i log on it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#2527 [13:39] <sproing> wat shud we do
#2528 [13:39] <xolotl> ??> win/reinst curmet
#2529 [13:39] <YwN> im just walking and it says "Unlicensed copy :C (Or logged in from another location)".
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#2531 [13:40] <curmet> _import_ houw do you do that
#2532 [13:40] <xolotl> ??> curment win/reinst
#2533 [13:40] <VoxelHead> curment: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2534 [13:40] <VoxelHead> curment: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2536 [13:41] <xolotl> YwN: It wouldn't hurt to change your password at minecraft.net, but that warning is sometimes a little trigger-happy
#2537 [13:41] <sproing> voxelhead, when i try to play it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#2538 [13:41] <curmet> thanks
#2539 [13:41] <xolotl> YwN: Things like the auth servers being busy, or other local network issues, may cause it to appear when it shouldn't
#2540 [13:41] <EntityReborn> sproing, thats normal ai this time
#2541 [13:41] <xolotl> ??> sproing win/hosts
#2542 [13:41] <VoxelHead> sproing: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2543 [13:41] <VoxelHead> sproing: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2544 [13:41] <EntityReborn> the login servers are swamped.
#2545 [13:41] <EntityReborn> xolotl, ^
#2546 [13:41] <YwN> alright as long as lulsec isnt trying to steal my @$*! or something
#2547 [13:41] <xolotl> YwN: Well as I say, it wouldn't hurt to change your password anyway.
#2548 [13:42] <YwN> what would someone gain from stealing a minecraft account -.-
#2549 [13:42] <xolotl> YwN: The ability to play Minecraft?
#2550 [13:42] <YwN> lol well yeah..
#2551 [13:43] <EntityReborn> Or sell the acct
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#2553 [13:43] <sproing> voxelhead, http://pastebin.com/pRrvgpLP
#2554 [13:45] <YwN> alright thanks, changed the pass
#2555 [13:45] <YwN> later
#2556 [13:45] <sproing> voxelhead, what shud i do
#2557 [13:46] <xolotl> sproing: VoxelHead is just a bot, btw - not a human
#2558 [13:46] <sproing> oh rlly
#2559 [13:46] <sproing> damn
#2560 [13:46] <xolotl> sproing: It's probably just what EntityReborn said; I guess the auth servers are a bit busy right now
#2561 [13:46] <sproing> haha
#2562 [13:46] <xolotl> sproing: Just try again a few times; you should get through
#2563 [13:47] <EntityReborn> ?? bot
#2564 [13:47] <VoxelHead> bot: Yes, I'm a bot.
#2565 [13:47] <EntityReborn> :P
#2566 [13:48] <sproing> haha oh so how do i fix it, anyone
#2567 [13:48] <xolotl> sproing: It's also possible that you might have some security software getting in the way, so if you have something protecting your network connections, you could try temporarily disabling it
#2568 [13:48] <xolotl> sproing: <+xolotl> sproing: Just try again a few times; you should get through
#2569 [13:48] <curmet> thanks voxel had it really work thanks and bye
#2570 [13:48] <YwN> yea i cant log in either
#2571 [13:48] <sproing> i tried alot but its not working
#2572 [13:50] <sproing> so how do i fix it
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#2574 [13:52] <sproing> why cant i just play offline without having to be online
#2575 [13:52] <xolotl> sproing: You can, but you have to have authenticated once, first
#2576 [13:52] <xolotl> sproing: Once you do the first authentication, everything you need to play will be on your comp and you'll have the option to play offline
#2577 [13:53] <sproing> how do u do that , by playing online first?
#2578 [13:53] <Morrolan> sproing: Exactly
#2579 [13:53] <xolotl> sproing: There's no actual "play offline" button on the main screen of the launcher; you have to fail a login first and then it'll pop up
#2580 [13:54] <sproing> how do u fail a login
#2581 [13:54] <xolotl> sproing: Like, you try to login but it can't contact the servers.
#2582 [13:54] <sproing> it is failing me, cause its saying cant connect to minecraft.net
#2583 [13:55] <xolotl> sproing: Have you ever played Minecraft on the comp you're using right now?
#2584 [13:55] <sproing> no
#2585 [13:55] <sproing> just got the launcher today
#2586 [13:56] <sproing> and i payed yesterday
#2587 [13:56] <xolotl> sproing: That's why -- the first time you auth, it needs to download the actual game data itself
#2588 [13:56] <xolotl> sproing: The thing you download from the website is just the launcher
#2589 [13:56] <xolotl> sproing: Give it a bit of time; I guess the servers are just busy right now. You should also look into any security software you might have running on your comp
#2590 [13:56] <sproing> oh, but how do you download it, if it cant connect to minecraft.net
#2591 [13:56] <xolotl> sproing: Um, exactly. That is your problem right now.
#2592 [13:56] <sproing> oh ok
#2593 [13:56] <sproing> thanks
#2594 [13:58] <xolotl> (and as an aside, this situation *is* the other thing that actually bugs me about how Mojang's doing things right now; I don't see how they can claim the game is DRM-free if it requires a valid login to play the first time. Sure, it's just a one-time activation, and you can archive the data later if you want, but still.)
#2595 [13:58] <xolotl> (not to start a debate or anything)
#2596 [13:59] <xolotl> (and not that it'd help in this case, if the datafile downloads aren't working anyway. Still!)
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#2598 [13:59] <sproing> right
#2599 [14:00] <YwN> Yo i'm pretty sure someone is messing with me. It just said i logged in from another location again after i changed my password
#2600 [14:00] <sproing> ok thanks
#2601 [14:00] <xolotl> YwN: Maybe or maybe not. That warning, as I said, can be a bit trigger-happy
#2602 [14:00] <xolotl> YwN: It's been known to sometimes appear when it shouldn't be, and when the auth servers are busy it's a bit more likely to happen
#2603 [14:01] <YwN> True. I've been playing for a while and had never seen it so it just worried me. :p
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#2608 [14:07] <Kaydee> Hi! I am unable to download Minecraft. It just keeps showing the files moving (pic), but is running indefinitely with no time left indication. Help! I also tried to find it at Amazonaws.com.
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#2610 [14:08] <frogonia> Minecraft Crashed!
#2611 [14:08] <Kaydee> Crashed?? The download site?
#2612 [14:08] <xolotl> Kaydee: The servers appear to be somewhat busy right now, you're gonna have to just keep trying, unfortunately
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#2614 [14:09] <Kaydee> Any time better than others?
#2615 [14:09] <xolotl> Kaydee: I wouldn't know
#2616 [14:10] <Kaydee> Okay, thanks. A bit frustrating, it's a gift for my grandson! Will keep trying. Thank you.
#2617 [14:10] <jodd> anyone know how to solve a runtime error with java when starting minecraft
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#2620 [14:11] <xolotl> jodd: Depends what the error is - use pastebin.com to show us what the full error says
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#2622 [14:11] <xolotl> (unless it's only one short line, in which case feel free to paste it here)
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#2624 [14:12] <jodd> yeah just a sec
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#2630 [14:16] <chrisnoble> guy's, i need a hand, when i play, the game just suddenly quits, as in the programme shuts down without any error messages and such
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#2633 [14:18] <mib_vk2oq0> whenever i go to play the free verson instead of it starting up it says: an error occured while loding the applet please contact support to resolve the issue fatal error (1):unable to load logo and progressbar images
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#2636 [14:18] <InfectedPhreak> !check
#2637 [14:20] <InfectedPhreak> !check
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#2639 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_vk2oq0 - Still there?
#2640 [14:20] <mib_vk2oq0> yes
#2641 [14:21] <mib_vk2oq0> yes i am
#2642 [14:22] <xorcon> hey umm i just got minecraft and i'm trying to play it in my browser, but all it says is "minecraft beta" do any of u guys know how i can get to the actual game?
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#2644 [14:22] <InfectedPhreak> !check
#2645 [14:22] <Adamon> !check
#2646 [14:22] <Adamon> >+>
#2647 [14:23] <InfectedPhreak> !check snt.no-ip.info
#2648 [14:23] <Adamon> !check
#2649 [14:23] <xolotl> xorcon: You may want to try using the download version instead, though it sounds like the servers are a bit overloaded right now
#2650 [14:23] <Adamon> o_O
#2651 [14:23] <chrisnoble> xor, go to the main page, make sure your logged in and go to the download page
#2652 [14:23] * Adamon runs
#2652 [14:23] <xolotl> xorcon: Which is probably what's getting in the way of using it
#2653 [14:23] <xorcon> thanks
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#2656 [14:25] <InfectedPhreak> !check
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#2659 [14:29] <xolotl> chrisnoble: I'd recommend making sure your graphics drivers are up to date, and then possibly just watching your comp's various temperature readings
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#2661 [14:30] <chrisnoble> k, thanks
#2662 [14:30] <mib_g3qs68> hello i need some help
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#2664 [14:30] <InfectedPhreak> !check
#2665 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> InfectedPhreak - Do you need some help with your server?
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#2667 [14:31] <InfectedPhreak> For some reason.... I leave it alone for like a few weeks, and now it doesn't work.
#2668 [14:31] <mib_g3qs68> i need help with updates im on 1.6.1 update my laptop will not allow me to update minecraft what i dow
#2669 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_g3qs68 win/reinst
#2670 [14:31] <VoxelHead> mib_g3qs68: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2671 [14:31] <VoxelHead> mib_g3qs68: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2672 [14:31] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, I was going to ask if he had windows :P
#2673 [14:31] <L551> I cannot get minecraft to run without closing itself in a matter of seconds. I'm running Ubuntu 10.10, Sun JVM
#2674 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> L551 - Any error reports?
#2675 [14:32] <InfectedPhreak> !check
#2676 [14:32] <L551> GreyVulpine: No, it simply closes.
#2677 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> L551 - Do you use the terminal to launch minecraft? Does anything appear in the terminal when it closes?
#2678 [14:33] <L551> It doesn't even open in terminal
#2679 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
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#2681 [14:34] <L551> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/SCXJfmmt
#2682 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> try: http://pastebin.com/SCXJfmmt
#2683 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> er
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#2685 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
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#2687 [14:35] <WhtieShark315> hello
#2688 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> whoops, that needs to be a lowercase m in minecraft.jar
#2689 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> ‘lo WhtieShark315
#2690 [14:35] <L551> http://pastebin.com/GE9MfnkX
#2691 [14:35] <WhtieShark315> i have a problem of "Could not create java virtual machine"
#2692 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> WhtieShark315 - How much RAM do you have on your system?
#2693 [14:36] <WhtieShark315> i was searchin on net for an hour for now, tried out everything, and nothing working
#2694 [14:36] <WhtieShark315> 256
#2695 [14:36] <WhtieShark315> mb
#2696 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> L551 - Try lowercase
#2697 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> m in minecraft
#2698 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> WhtieShark315 - That would be why. That’s WAY too little to run minecraft
#2699 [14:36] <WhtieShark315> but i have been playing for a while for now
#2700 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> WhtieShark315 - In order to run minecraft, you need a minimum of 512 megs of RAM, it allocates 1 gig at the start.
#2701 [14:37] <WhtieShark315> but i did play minecraft on the same computer for a week!
#2702 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> WhtieShark315 - The memory requirements for minecraft change all the time. It’s in an active development cycle.
#2703 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Thus, the “beta” in Minecraft beta.
#2704 [14:37] <WhtieShark315> and now with the 1.7 update i cant play it..
#2705 [14:37] <WhtieShark315> coz of this problem
#2706 [14:38] <WhtieShark315> so NO solution for this?????
#2707 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> It sounds like you’ve got an ancient system, with 256 megs of RAM.
#2708 [14:38] <SlashLife> WhtieShark315: Sure.
#2709 [14:38] <SlashLife> Upgrade your RAM.
#2710 [14:38] <WhtieShark315> hehe 4 year old computer xP
#2711 [14:38] <GreyVulpine> No way..
#2712 [14:38] <L551> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/hjim8D02
#2713 [14:38] <SlashLife> GreyVulpine: Well, a used computer bought four years ago ... may very well be.
#2714 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> L551 - pastebin /home/dark2/Downloads/hs_err_pid18055.log
#2715 [14:39] <SlashLife> Bought or probably even passed on.
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#2717 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> A 10 year old computer wouldn’t have 256 megs of RAM installed on it
#2718 [14:39] <L551> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/ZKDAuxwf
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#2720 [14:40] <InfectedPhreak> Server says out dated, how do I update? Snag a new file?
#2721 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> InfectedPhreak - yes
#2722 [14:40] <xolotl> WhtieShark315: If you do only have 256MB of RAM, you will not regret upgrading to more, Minecraft or not.
#2723 [14:40] <WhtieShark315> WAIT WAIT
#2724 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> L551 - I was afraid of this, it’s your fglrx proprietary drivers. ATI and linux don’t play along too well.
#2725 [14:40] <WhtieShark315> i said wrong data!!!
#2726 [14:41] <WhtieShark315> I have 2-93 Gb ram!
#2727 [14:41] <WhtieShark315> *2,93
#2728 [14:41] <WhtieShark315> lol i misunderstanded ram omg
#2729 [14:41] <xolotl> WhtieShark315: That sounds like a CPU GHz speed.
#2730 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Oi, well then, that changes the situation
#2731 [14:41] <xolotl> ??> WhtieShark315 win/dxdiag
#2732 [14:41] <VoxelHead> WhtieShark315: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2733 [14:41] <VoxelHead> WhtieShark315: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2734 [14:41] <L551> GreyVulpine: So I got the game, but can't play it? That's money wasted from a friend
#2735 [14:41] <WhtieShark315> well, i read this from "my computer": 2,40 ghz, 2,93 gb ram...
#2736 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> L551 - Try updating your video drivers, if that doesn’t work, try reinstalling java, make sure you’ve got sun java installed instead of OpenJDK
#2737 [14:42] <zchr> i can play the game on a 10 year old computer.
#2738 [14:42] <zchr> in 1080p on far.
#2739 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> L551 - Other than that, I can’t really say much.
#2740 [14:42] <L551> GreyVulpine: There are no updated drivers, and I am using Sun java
#2741 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> zchr - I was only mentioning, you wouldn’t even get 256 megs of RAM on a 10 year old computer
#2742 [14:42] <zchr> dunno what the performance problems are about
#2743 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> much less 4.
#2744 [14:43] <zchr> GreyVulpine: max on the previously mentioned ibm is 1.5gb
#2745 [14:43] * GreyVulpine nods
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#2746 [14:43] <L551> GreyVulpine: So I'm SOL? I have to tell him to get a refund?
#2747 [14:44] <xolotl> L551: I'm sure that many folks *have* gotten Minecraft to work with fglrx
#2748 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> L551 - Try those options first, but we’ve seen this problem again and again. ATI and linux drivers don’t get along too well.
#2749 [14:44] <xolotl> L551: Maybe search getsatisfaction for similar error reports from ATI users
#2750 [14:44] <WhtieShark315> VoxelHead http://pastebin.com/E1Haz75e
#2751 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> There’s tons of error reports like that on getsatisfaction
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#2753 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> We’ve been dealing with fglrx here for months.
#2754 [14:45] <xolotl> WhtieShark315: Okay, yeah, your RAM and CPU should be fine.
#2755 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Well, then, uninstall java completely and reinstall it WhtieShark315.
#2756 [14:45] <InfectedPhreak> !check
#2757 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> InfectedPhreak - Could we help you set up your server?
#2758 [14:45] <xolotl> WhtieShark315: So, I suppose, just try reinstalling Java
#2759 [14:45] <xolotl> WhtieShark315: Remove all your installed Java versions first, then grab the latest from java.com
#2760 [14:45] <InfectedPhreak> It's setup, I just think my ports are messed up. Got to restart the router.
#2761 [14:45] <WhtieShark315> GreyVulpine i should reinstall minecraft,too?
#2762 [14:45] * GreyVulpine nods
#2762 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> WhtieShark315 - No, just java for now
#2763 [14:46] <L551> GreyVulpine: The solution they said was to run it in WINE, but even then it runs horribly
#2764 [14:46] <WhtieShark315> uninstall it and then download? coz i tried to downlaod the latest version, installed it but didnt worked...
#2765 [14:46] <WhtieShark315> maybe the previous version is the problem?
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#2768 [14:46] <xolotl> WhtieShark315: As I say, first remove any existing Java (you can do that in the Control Panel somewhere, there should be some kind of "remove programs" or "add/remove programs" option
#2769 [14:47] <xolotl> )
#2770 [14:47] <WhtieShark315> okay i will respond if its working or not
#2771 [14:47] <L551> Almost a year old bug and they haven't fixed it.....
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#2773 [14:48] <InfectedPhreak> !check
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#2780 [14:53] <zucchini> Hello, I got a problem with starting my minecraft, It says it cant find an accelerated openGL mode, what shall I do?
#2781 [14:53] <xsmile> Hi all. I recently nought the game but I got some login issues using the downloadable version. It says 'Can't connect to minecraft.net'. The browser version works just fine so I guess its not a server issue.. I also tried to reinstall the game. Can anyone help me?
#2782 [14:54] <xsmile> zucchini, which OS do you use?
#2783 [14:54] <Nazzy> My minecraft keeps blackscreening when I update to 1.7 - fresh .jar and everything.
#2784 [14:54] <zucchini> What do you mean with OS?
#2785 [14:54] <Nazzy> @xsmile: I'm gonna assume there's high traffic or something, cause I get the same issue. I can log in after a few tries normally.
#2786 [14:54] <Nazzy> OS = Operating System. XP/Vista/7/etc
#2787 [14:54] <zucchini> 7
#2788 [14:55] <Nazzy> Is anyone else getting a black screen issue though?
#2789 [14:56] <zucchini> its semm wierd, its works perfectly on my laptop, which has 7 too but on the stationary it doesnt work
#2790 [14:57] <zucchini> Would it help if I paste the error report here?
#2791 [14:57] <Nazzy> A clean install of the game seems to have fixed my issue. I can try to help someone else though, cause I see a lot of people with issues lately.
#2792 [14:57] <xolotl> Nazzy: That happens after every update. :)
#2793 [14:58] <xsmile> zucchini, it sound like you need to update your video drivers. Which card do you have? I could link you
#2794 [14:58] <zucchini> Dont know realy, how could I check it?
#2795 [14:58] <Nazzy> xolotl: yup. I'm pretty much head admin on my server, I deal with techy stuff a lot. Especially all the folks asking around about bukkit.
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#2797 [14:58] <WhtieShark315> the reinstall of java doesnt working!!!! :(((
#2798 [14:58] <xolotl> ??> zucchini win/dxdiag
#2799 [14:58] <VoxelHead> zucchini: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2800 [14:58] <VoxelHead> zucchini: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2801 [14:59] <xolotl> WhtieShark315: How so?
#2802 [14:59] <rypa> I hate how Mojang use so much time
#2803 [14:59] <WhtieShark315> i uninstalled all of versions from my comp, downloaded the last, and minecraft drops again that could not create java virtual machine
#2804 [14:59] <rypa> ._.
#2805 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> WhtieShark315 - Try http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#2806 [14:59] <xsmile> Mh.. i already tried logging in many times. It just won't work
#2807 [15:00] <xsmile> and i assume its not a server problem because the browser version works
#2808 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - Check your system time/date
#2809 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Make sure it’s correctr
#2810 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> er, correct even
#2811 [15:01] <zucchini> VoxelHead what do you mean with Win+R keys?
#2812 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/key
#2813 [15:01] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2814 [15:01] <xsmile> how can my system time be not correct? or.. how does it matter?
#2815 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - Please just check it.
#2816 [15:02] <xolotl> zucchini: Note, btw, that VoxelHead is a bot. He just says things that we tell him to. :)
#2817 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> I can see that your system time and date is off.
#2818 [15:02] <xsmile> i just synced it with the windows servers
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#2820 [15:02] <xsmile> do we talk about the same thing? :)
#2821 [15:03] <lilybet> hey can someone tes 173.17.65.193:25565
#2822 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Oh wait, never mind, yeah that’s right
#2823 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> !check 173.17.65.193
#2824 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Looks good lilybet
#2825 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - One moment
#2826 [15:03] <lilybet> ty'
#2827 [15:03] <xsmile> thanks for the help
#2828 [15:04] <WhtieShark315> Not working, i cant believe this...aaaargh
#2829 [15:04] <xsmile> zucchini, any success yet?
#2830 [15:04] * GreyVulpine wonders if the authentication server is still down
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#2831 [15:04] <xsmile> woudlnt the browser version give out the same error message if they are down?
#2832 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - Looks like the authentication server for the downloaded client is down
#2833 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> And no, they use different servers to authenticate
#2834 [15:04] <xolotl> GreyVulpine: I've been able to auth all day; I think what might be down (or having problems, anyway) is the servers which actually provide minecraft.jar, etc
#2835 [15:05] <xsmile> oh, alright
#2836 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> The downloaded client uses the SSL authentication client, which requires a valid date and time..
#2837 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> But, it looks like it’s down/overloaded
#2838 [15:05] <WhtieShark315> still could not create the jave virtual machine!
#2839 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> I can’t log in via the downloadable client either.
#2840 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> WhtieShark315 - Hmm, do you get anything in the command prompt window?
#2841 [15:06] <xsmile> well, thanks for the help. I will try it later again
#2842 [15:06] <zucchini> alrighty VoxelHead, I just pasted it on pastebin, now what?
#2843 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - Give us the address to it.
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#2846 [15:06] <WhtieShark315> GreyVulpine what should i have? i dont know what you thinkin of
#2847 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Did you try the instructions from the pastebin I gave you? If you did, you would’ve used a .bat file to launch minecraft, which would have then left a command prompt window open
#2848 [15:07] <WhtieShark315> aw yea
#2849 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> I’m wondering if that command prompt window now shows anything.
#2850 [15:08] <WhtieShark315> it says press a button for continue
#2851 [15:08] <zucchini> alrighty VoxelHead, I just pasted it on pastebin, now what?
#2852 [15:08] <WhtieShark315> and above it there are some java codings
#2853 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> That’s all?
#2854 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - Give us the address to it.
#2855 [15:08] <zucchini> shall i submit?
#2856 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - Yes please
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#2858 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> WhtieShark315 - Could you give us a screenshot of it? Upload it to imgur.com?
#2859 [15:09] <WhtieShark315> yes thats all ~10-15 lines
#2860 [15:09] <zucchini> http://pastebin.com/nDZ8G6mT this should be it
#2861 [15:09] <xolotl> WhtieShark315: "some java codings?" That might be the stuff that we're after.
#2862 [15:09] <WhtieShark315> wait i upload a screenshot
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#2864 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - Looks like part of the file was cut off. Did you copy the entire dxdiag report?
#2865 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> It’s missing the first part
#2866 [15:11] <zucchini> i try again
#2867 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> I can see zucchini’s running a NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250, but I’d like to have the whole system information before I go looking for drivers
#2868 [15:13] <xsmile> GreyVulpine, don't tell me you are a bot, too.. you sound like one :p
#2869 [15:13] <zucchini> http://pastebin.com/fxyxaken here we go again
#2870 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> No, I’m not a bot.
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#2872 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - You’re running a NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 on Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
#2873 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - You want the drivers from: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-275.33-whql-driver.html
#2874 [15:14] <WhtieShark315> http://i.imgur.com/2Dw3k.jpg
#2875 [15:15] <zucchini> shall i download it?
#2876 [15:15] <zucchini> GreyVulpine shall i dl it?
#2877 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - Please download and install the driver from: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-275.33-whql-driver.html
#2878 [15:16] <zucchini> k
#2879 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> WhtieShark315 - Did you download minecraft.jar from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp ?
#2880 [15:16] <zucchini> i try again when im done and tell you the results
#2881 [15:16] <WhtieShark315> yea
#2882 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> WhtieShark315 - The minecraft.jar under the Linux heading?
#2883 [15:17] <WhtieShark315> oh no
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#2885 [15:17] <WhtieShark315> i did the .exe aw
#2886 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Could you please do that, and run the .bat again
#2887 [15:17] <WhtieShark315> yea
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#2889 [15:17] <WhtieShark315> okay i got the minecraft launcher window
#2890 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Alright..
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#2892 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> That’s a good first step
#2893 [15:18] <WhtieShark315> oh my god, finally
#2894 [15:18] <WhtieShark315> thank you...
#2895 [15:18] <jake19> anybody help?
#2896 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> You may want to edit the .bat file, change -Xms256M -Xmx256M to something bigger
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#2898 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> But for now, that’ll work.
#2899 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> jake19 - With?
#2900 [15:19] <mininessie> hi i've experienced lag or slowness ever since 1.6 is there anyway to fix this
#2901 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> mininessie: turn off smooth lighting
#2902 [15:20] <mininessie> DopeGhoti: its already off
#2903 [15:20] <jake19> i get to the screew showing all the updates and then i hit login and goes to updates for a split second then black, then brown screen fora bit, then black and it doesnt do anything
#2904 [15:20] <stomper> and mininessie also try changing your render distance down as well if you havn't already tried that
#2905 [15:20] <jake19> sceen not screeew
#2906 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> ??> jake19 win/reinst
#2907 [15:20] <VoxelHead> jake19: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2908 [15:20] <VoxelHead> jake19: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2909 [15:20] <jake19> win
#2910 [15:21] <mininessie> stomper: i've never had this problem with 1.5 and earlier
#2911 [15:21] <jake19> thanks ill try it
#2912 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> mininessie - What operating system are you on?
#2913 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> mininessie: each successive version of the game adds more things, which slows the game down.
#2914 [15:21] <mininessie> GreyVulpine: windows 7
#2915 [15:21] <stomper> I have no idea than miniessie I joined when 1.6 first came out so I don't know
#2916 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> mininessie - 32 or 64 bit?
#2917 [15:21] <mininessie> 64bit
#2918 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> mininessie - Have you installed the 64bit version of java?
#2919 [15:23] <mininessie> GreyVulpine: yes
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#2921 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> mininessie - Is 64 bit java the only version installed on it?
#2922 [15:25] <mininessie> yes
#2923 [15:25] <mib_e5vpm0> Hi i am running on mac os x and i recently played the classic version of minecraft, when i am all done i go into save and save it, but it says i am unable to save What do i do??
#2924 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Many people have reported performance increases with running 64bit java on a 64bit OS.
#2925 [15:25] <mib_e5vpm0> i have bought the game and everything
#2926 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> Other than that, try an uninstall of java, and install java by itself.
#2927 [15:25] <jake19> it worked! thank you so much!
#2928 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> er, install 64 bit java by itself
#2929 [15:26] <stomper> crongraz, jake
#2930 [15:26] <mib_e5vpm0> Please help i love classic mode and would like to play it more
#2931 [15:26] <jake19> lol thanks again bye
#2932 [15:26] <zucchini> I just install the new driver, shall i test minecraft now GreyVulpine
#2933 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - Yes
#2934 [15:27] <mib_e5vpm0> I am just wondering how to save in minecraft classic
#2935 [15:28] <mib_e5vpm0> can sombody help please?
#2936 [15:28] <xsmile> zucchini, you should reboot to complete the driver installation; in case you didn't do it yet
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#2938 [15:29] <mib_e5vpm0> PLEASE SOMBODY HELP
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#2940 [15:30] <mib_e5vpm0> SOMBODY HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!
#2941 [15:30] <mib_e5vpm0> SOM BODY HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!>!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?
#2942 [15:31] <TheNytangel> mib_e5vpm0, you need an account
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#2944 [15:31] <zucchini> GreyVulpine, It works now, Thank you VERY much for your help. You just saved me 15 euro. I owe you one!!!
#2945 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_e5vpm0 patience
#2946 [15:31] <VoxelHead> mib_e5vpm0: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#2947 [15:31] <VoxelHead> mib_e5vpm0: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#2948 [15:31] * GreyVulpine nods at zucchini
#2948 [15:31] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, I just told him he needs an account.. am I right?
#2949 [15:31] <mib_e5vpm0> i have an account but i cant save on minecraft
#2950 [15:31] <xolotl> ??> mib_e5vpm0 attitude
#2951 [15:31] <mib_e5vpm0> i bought the game and everthing
#2952 [15:31] <VoxelHead> mib_e5vpm0: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#2953 [15:31] <VoxelHead> mib_e5vpm0: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-proiority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#2954 [15:31] <mib_e5vpm0> i am running on mac os x
#2955 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: mib_e5vpm0: I"m not familiar with Classic, so I'm not in a position to answer.
#2956 [15:32] <mininessie> its still slow even when i removed the 32bit version
#2957 [15:32] <mininessie> 32bit java
#2958 [15:32] <mib_e5vpm0> im sorry guys its just i havent been able to save in a month
#2959 [15:33] <stomper> hello, I was just woundering if somone could possibly help me since minecraft won't connect than when I retry it displays a black screen, it has done this since I installed the new update yesterday, it defiantly wasn't doing that before, any idea why?
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#2961 [15:33] <mib_e5vpm0> stomper i have the same problem
#2962 [15:33] <Minecraftbegger> hello :( ?
#2963 [15:33] <mib_e5vpm0> im having alot of problems with this game
#2964 [15:33] <xolotl> mib_e5vpm0: I don't think that saving works in Classic anymore
#2965 [15:33] <mib_e5vpm0> why not?
#2966 [15:34] <xolotl> mib_e5vpm0: The best you could do in Classic is start your own server, and then it would auto-save
#2967 [15:34] <xolotl> mib_e5vpm0: Because it's not really supported anymore
#2968 [15:34] <stomper> this is my first problem, I never really had any before
#2969 [15:34] <mib_e5vpm0> how do you do that
#2970 [15:34] <mib_e5vpm0> classic is so fun
#2971 [15:34] <Minecraftbegger> is their someon eopen to tlk about a mod loade rproblem?
#2972 [15:34] <mininessie> minecraft lag tried everything for java still slow and messed with all the in game settings still slow
#2973 [15:34] <xolotl> mib_e5vpm0: I'm not sure, honestly. You'd download the classic server software from $somewhere, forward your ports, and get going, I guess.
#2974 [15:35] <xolotl> mib_e5vpm0: I don't have any actual experience with Classic though, so I'm not the one to ask about that
#2975 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Minecraftbegger - Try #risucraft
#2976 [15:35] <mib_e5vpm0> i played classic liked it bought the game tried to save but wouldnt this is a problem that should be fixed
#2977 [15:35] <xsmile> GreyVulpine, do you know of any service that has to be running in order for minecraft to function properly? Just an idea ..
#2978 [15:35] <Minecraftbegger> kk
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#2980 [15:36] <mininessie> minecraft lag tried everything for java still slow and messed with all the in game settings still slow
#2981 [15:36] <mib_e5vpm0> thanks for triing o help though xoloti
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#2983 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - No, sorry. We’ve been at the fglrx issue for months here, with no real big solution
#2984 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> er wait, you’re the Can’t connect to minecraft.net thing
#2985 [15:37] <mininessie> damn no help
#2986 [15:37] <stomper> percisly
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#2989 [15:37] <xolotl> mib_e5vpm0: Well again, Classic isn't really supported anymore, so it's not surprising that some things don't work
#2990 [15:37] <xsmile> GreyVulpine, exactly. I'm using Windows 7 x64
#2991 [15:37] <Minecraftbegger> most room sr talkin gabout roomates and naughty stuff :(
#2992 [15:37] <mib_e5vpm0> is there any possible way to save in classic at all?
#2993 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - Just keep trying.
#2994 [15:38] <xolotl> mib_e5vpm0: FWIW, I think Notch said something about finally reintegrating an option for Creative Mode, in beta, on a future release (1.8 or otherwise), so that is on the horizon
#2995 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - If you still get Can’t Connect to minecraft.net, there are a couple of problems that you can check.
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#2997 [15:38] <mib_e5vpm0> ok thanks for your help i appreciate it
#2998 [15:38] <stomper> ok
#2999 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - Lemme check to see if I can connect.
#3000 [15:38] <Minecraftbegger> why is mod loader crashing on me..
#3001 [15:38] <shmoo> hello
#3002 [15:38] <Minecraftbegger> i just downlaoded correctly
#3003 [15:38] <mininessie> damn no help
#3004 [15:38] <mininessie> minecraft lag tried everything for java still slow and messed with all the in game settings still slow
#3005 [15:38] <Minecraftbegger> and it just crashed
#3006 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Minecraftbegger - Did you download the latest modloader for 1.7?
#3007 [15:38] <xsmile> GreyVulpine, please list them if you have the time. I'd like to try it out
#3008 [15:39] <Minecraftbegger> yea
#3009 [15:39] <Minecraftbegger> it was today
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#3011 [15:39] <shmoo> i tryed to download a high defenition mod for minecraft. i did it wrong now my minecraft wont launch
#3012 [15:39] <Minecraftbegger> also set java.exe to high in task manager
#3013 [15:39] <stomper> *face palm* that's what I did, that's what crashed it, mod loader *groan* how do I fix it?
#3014 [15:39] <Minecraftbegger> :(
#3015 [15:40] <Minecraftbegger> no help lol
#3016 [15:40] <shmoo> stomper
#3017 [15:40] <stomper> yes?
#3018 [15:40] <shmoo> u did wat i did?
#3019 [15:41] <stomper> I installed the 1.6 modloader and installed a mod that uses modloader after the 1.7 update so it crashed
#3020 [15:41] <Minecraftbegger> but i instlaeed 1.7 i
#3021 [15:41] <Minecraftbegger> let me check
#3022 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - The top issues that we see for “Can’t connect to minecraft.net” in the downloaded client include, 1) The system time and date are off, this can mess with the SSL authentication token 2) Your Windows Username has a “!” mark in it 3) Your firewall/security software blocking java from connecting
#3023 [15:42] <Minecraftbegger> yea
#3024 [15:42] <Minecraftbegger> i download
#3025 [15:42] <Minecraftbegger> mod loader 1.7
#3026 [15:42] <stomper> hummm, java's working so that isn't it, the date and time are fine and I don't know about the secound one
#3027 [15:42] <Minecraftbegger> no reson why is should crash :(
#3028 [15:43] <xsmile> GreyVulpine, how can I check if my system time and date are off or on?
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#3030 [15:44] <stomper> also what does windows user name with a '!' in it mean?
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#3032 [15:44] <kermit> bsod help please
#3033 [15:45] <oldtopmanserver> kermit: Install linux
#3034 [15:45] <oldtopmanserver> stomper: Has to do with java.
#3035 [15:45] <stomper> how do I fix it?
#3036 [15:45] <riley> Can I get help with error reports here?
#3037 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - Just check your clock?
#3038 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> riley - Yes, please pastebin.com it
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#3040 [15:47] <xsmile> GreyVulpine, well the clock seems to be fine. I can't imagine it to be off though. The other two points shouldn't cause any problems here.
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#3042 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - Are you still getting “Can’t connect to minecraft.net” via your downloaded client?
#3043 [15:48] <xsmile> GreyVulpine, yes I am
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#3045 [15:49] <riley> Is this what it's suposed to look like? http://pastebin.com/9GX93v4U
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#3047 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> riley - Yes, try:
#3048 [15:50] <nexyios> !paid cazyius
#3049 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> ??> riley win/reinst
#3050 [15:50] <VoxelHead> riley: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3051 [15:50] <VoxelHead> riley: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3052 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - Hmm, are you sure your windows username doesn’t have a ! in it?
#3053 [15:50] <nexyios> hello all! is it normal for my account not going premium 24h after buying it with a visa card? should i try buying it again, even though the FAQ says not to?
#3054 [15:51] <xsmile> GreyVulpine, pretty sure. Its just a plain 'Alex' :-)
#3055 [15:51] <riley> cheers voxelHead will give it a try
#3056 [15:51] <Icechamp11200> anyone want to help me test my server?
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#3058 [15:52] <Icechamp11200> need to see if its online
#3059 [15:52] <kermit> bsod help please
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#3061 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - Hmm, if it’s not the username, and it’s not the system time, it’s the firewall
#3062 [15:54] <stomper> than it looks like both me and him have to same issue
#3063 [15:55] <stomper> i've recently installed windows security essensials
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#3065 [15:55] <mib_uavx7y> minecraft wont runn
#3066 [15:56] <alemachete> hola everyone, ok so straight to the point. whenever i try to log on to a server the game claims WARNING: Found unknown Windows version: Windows 7 Attempting to use default windows plug-in.
#3067 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> alemachete - Really not a problem.. What else do you get?
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#3069 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_uavx7y - Has it worked before?
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#3071 [15:58] <mib_uavx7y> screen goes to black when it says loaging
#3072 [15:58] <alemachete> yes. when i try to join my own server the game says something about packet id 14 . in the server screen says player ****** you need to log in
#3073 [15:59] <stomper> same here mib_uavx7y
#3074 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> alemachete - Ah, you’re running the classic server, but connecting to it with the beta client
#3075 [15:59] <slimer> Hi! Could someone help me? When I run Minecraft on my computer in single player offline mode, the game closes and I recieve a log on my desktop that says there was a fatal java runtime error... I don't know what to do...
#3076 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Please use the beta server, you can download it from: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3077 [15:59] <kermit> my kid can get about 3 to five min. of play until it goes black
#3078 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Please copy the contents of that error log, paste it to www.pastebin.com, submit it, and give us the address to it
#3079 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> kermit - First two things to try, completely uninstall java and reinstall it from java.com, also look into your video card drivers, see if there’s any updates for it
#3080 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> kermit - If it creates any error reports, please share them with us via pastebin.com
#3081 [16:00] <kermit> okay will do thank you GreyVulpine
#3082 [16:00] <xsmile> GreyVulpine, I just turned off the windows firewall, without success. Still can't login
#3083 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - Hmm, windows firewall wouldn’t block it, you’re not running any antivirus suites, or firewalls?
#3084 [16:01] <xsmile> I'm not using any other kind of protection software.. nope
#3085 [16:01] <stomper> how do you stop the firewall from blaocking java?
#3086 [16:01] <slimer> Here is the link to the error code... http://pastebin.com/WeVEJkM0
#3087 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> stomper - It all depends on what firewall you’re using.
#3088 [16:02] <stomper> windows essensials
#3089 [16:02] <stomper> I uninstalled mcafre due to a bug
#3090 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Hmm, could you try turning down the graphics options in minecraft. Turn performance down from balanced to power saver, try turning advanced openGL off, also rendering distance from far to normal
#3091 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Many intel GPUs can’t handle minecraft’s video on full.
#3092 [16:03] <cazyius> dear fellow minecrafters! is it normal for an account to take more than 24h to become premium after paying for it on the website with a VISA card?
#3093 [16:03] <slimer> Alright, I appreciate it. Thanks
#3094 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> slimer - If those don’t work, we can try updating the intel drivers, let me know
#3095 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> cazyius - Not usually, no. Could you check your VISA balance, make sure the money was actually taken out?
#3096 [16:04] <cazyius> GreyVulpine - yeah i just did, my account has more than enough, and i've been waiting for my "welcome" email all day!
#3097 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> cazyius - What is your minecraft username?
#3098 [16:04] <cazyius> i haven't even got confirmation!
#3099 [16:04] <cazyius> cayzyius
#3100 [16:05] <cazyius> cazyius
#3101 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> !paid cazyius
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#3103 [16:05] <xsmile> !paid xsmile
#3104 [16:05] <stomper> as have I:)
#3105 [16:05] <cazyius> GreyVulpine - i don't dare make a new payment because the support FAQ says not to, and it says it might take up to 5 workdays for the payment to go through :(
#3106 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> cazyius - Hmm, alright, other thing to check is to try logging into your minecraft.net account. Check your profile page.
#3107 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Check the bottom of the profile page, make sure there isn’t a gift code listed there
#3108 [16:06] <xsmile> stomper, you could login already though :p
#3109 [16:06] <alemachete> Problem solved, thank you for your asisstance!
#3110 [16:06] <cazyius> GreyVulpine - yeah i've kind of been spamming it from work all day... still shows the basic page...
#3111 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Many people mistakenly purchase a gift code instead of an account
#3112 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> cazyius - In your profile page?
#3113 [16:06] * GreyVulpine nods at alemachete
#3113 [16:06] <cazyius> yeah i read that too... and i was very sure i was buying the account for myself. like i said, haven't even got the conformation email
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#3115 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> cazyius - If it’s been a couple days, I’d first call up or check your VISA credit card balance, double check the balance there.
#3116 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> If money was taken out, and you didn’t buy a gift code, that’s when you go to minecraft.net/support and fill out the form there.
#3117 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Use Account -> premium
#3118 [16:08] <cazyius> GreyVulpine - it's "only" been 24 hours... and i checked my balance online which shows 10 times the amount... so it should work
#3119 [16:08] <cazyius> it hasn't taken any money wither
#3120 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a transaction going to Mojang AB?
#3121 [16:08] <cazyius> nope...
#3122 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Then most likely, the transaction was never fully completed.
#3123 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> We see this a lot.
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#3125 [16:09] <cazyius> wait, "account -> premium"? where should i see this? in my "profile" page?
#3126 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> No, it’s one of the options in minecraft.net/support, the first step to contact mojang about premium status
#3127 [16:10] <cazyius> well i was a little worried trying to pay again because the website recommends not to make another payment if it didn't work right away
#3128 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> But you’ve told me that money hasn’t been taken out at all from your VISA card, so I’m suspecting the payment never was completed
#3129 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Usually, money’s taken out pretty quickly upon payment.
#3130 [16:10] <cazyius> if i try buying it again, and this time it works, but then on monday a second payment is pulled, do you think it's ok to get a refund?
#3131 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes, you can always call up your VISA card, and request a chargeback
#3132 [16:11] <cazyius> ok, cool! i'll just go for it then! i'll try buying it again. but i'll still have to wait an hour or so before being able to play adventure mode right? :-/
#3133 [16:12] <stomper> hello, I think that my firewall has blocked java or there's some error with it because it keeps on saying 'can't connect to minecraft.net' than when I retry it shows a black window, this has only happened since the 1.7 update but I installed windows security essensials round about the same time so could this be causing it? If so than how do I fix it?
#3134 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> It really depends. Some can play minecraft 5 minutes after purchasing, some need to wait 4-6 hours on average for the transaction to go through cazyius
#3135 [16:13] <cazyius> GreyVulpine - ok, thanks again for your help! really appriciated you taking the time!
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#3137 [16:13] * GreyVulpine nods
#3137 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> stomper - I do not believe MSE has any sort of network security aspect to it.
#3138 [16:14] <stomper> huh? sorry I don't undertsand what you mean, I'm, not good with computers
#3139 [16:14] <stomper> either way it scans my comp with is fine by me:D
#3140 [16:14] <mudpit> when i want to update my minecraft it says failed to launch Please help!!
#3141 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> stomper - I don’t think microsoft security essentials has anything that may block minecraft. It’s just a virus/anti-malware scanner
#3142 [16:14] <stomper> ok
#3143 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> ??> mudpit win/reinst
#3144 [16:14] <VoxelHead> mudpit: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3145 [16:14] <VoxelHead> mudpit: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3146 [16:15] <stomper> any idea what could be wrong than?
#3147 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> stomper - Are you still unable to connect?
#3148 [16:15] <stomper> yes
#3149 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
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#3151 [16:16] <stomper> I've tried re-installing it a few times
#3152 [16:16] <stomper> hold on I'll try once more
#3153 [16:16] <stomper> this is the fifth time I've re-installed it
#3154 [16:16] <mudpit> what should i delete
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#3156 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> mudpit - Everything but the saves folder
#3157 [16:17] <stomper> wow, after all that it started working of its own accord, humm, I'll let you know if it crashes agian, but thank you:D
#3158 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> stomper - Heh, alright.
#3159 [16:18] <Gr3nwr35stlr> Im having trouble with minecraft on my moms laptop. it works fine on mine but on my moms laptop when i hit the w key it just chooses a random number.
#3160 [16:18] <Gr3nwr35stlr> like when i hit w to move forward it instead just chooses a random item
#3161 [16:18] <mudpit> thank you man you really saved me
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#3163 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> ??> Gr3nwr35stlr comcast
#3164 [16:19] <VoxelHead> Gr3nwr35stlr: (comcast) If you installed 'Constant Guard by Comcast' and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, uninstall it. This is a known issue.
#3165 [16:19] <Gr3nwr35stlr> hmmmmm
#3166 [16:20] <cazyius> wait what?! sorry to bother again, but i just tried paying again and it said that my VISA was disabled? and that i can not make another purchase for 24h. but after clicking OK, i come to a page saying "Purchase Complete" and that my account should update within the hour? is this normal? i doubt that my paiment went through OK :(
#3167 [16:20] <cazyius> payment*
#3168 [16:20] <dplummer> I'm running archlinux 64bit and the new minecraft 1.7 has a fatal error after i start it and login in. here's the log: http://pastie.org/2151660
#3169 [16:20] <Gr3nwr35stlr> yep my moms laptop does have constant guard
#3170 [16:20] <oldtopmanserver> cazyius: They probably protected your card after you made an international transaction
#3171 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> cazyius - Yeah, we’ve been seeing that quite often. Try calling up your visa card and asking them about it
#3172 [16:21] <dplummer> cazyius: I had the same issue, managed to pay with paypal w/o issue
#3173 [16:21] <cazyius> ok, i'll try going through paypal instead... thanks guys!
#3174 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Oi, that’s an interesting error dplummer...
#3175 [16:22] <dplummer> Yea, I've deleted and redownloaded all the minecraft files, and reinstalled java
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#3177 [16:22] <dplummer> and tried both the downloaded client and in browser
#3178 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> dplummer - Tried manually updating lwjgl?
#3179 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> dplummer - http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#3180 [16:23] <Gr3nwr35stlr> does
#3181 [16:23] <Gr3nwr35stlr> oops
#3182 [16:24] <dplummer> GreyVulpine: I'll try that
#3183 [16:24] <Gr3nwr35stlr> does "Constant Guard by Comcast" sometimes come preloaded on laptops?
#3184 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3185 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Comes with having comcast, and either letting the technician install it, or having the person install it from a disc/website
#3186 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> It’s really quite unneeded.
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#3189 [16:26] <Gr3nwr35stlr> Is it possible to turn off Constant Guard but not uninstall it as I dont want to uninstall stuff on my moms laptop?
#3190 [16:27] <DopeGhoti> I refuse to install it to find out.
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#3192 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> I’m sorry, I wouldn’t know. We’ve had others with the same problem
#3193 [16:28] * mib_ilc17w [mib_ilc17w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3194 [16:28] <mib_ilc17w> hi?
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#3196 [16:28] <Vinven> Heya
#3197 [16:28] <mib_ilc17w> Hi?
#3198 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> ‘lo
#3199 [16:28] <Vinven> I have an issue
#3200 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#3201 [16:28] <Vinven> Minecraft Multiplayer server, my tnt wont explode.
#3202 [16:28] <mib_ilc17w> i have a problem with minecraft.
#3203 [16:28] <Vinven> It just goes away into a block when I hit it.
#3204 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Vinven - TNT will only explode with redstone, or fire
#3205 [16:28] <Vinven> oh
#3206 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> It’s been changed for 1.7
#3207 [16:28] <Vinven> New change?
#3208 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3209 [16:29] <mib_ilc17w> it updated
#3210 [16:29] <Vinven> Ah okay thank you very much.
#3211 [16:29] <mib_ilc17w> yea
#3212 [16:29] <Vinven> Thats very handy
#3213 [16:29] <mib_ilc17w> My minecraft is wierd.
#3214 [16:29] <Vinven> btw
#3215 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w - Define: “Weird”
#3216 [16:29] <mib_ilc17w> I login and then i just get black screen?!
#3217 [16:29] <mib_ilc17w> im on a mac soo yea....
#3218 [16:29] <Vinven> Is there any way to sort of edit a map. Say you want to make a wall of cobblestone, is there anyway to say click and drag instead of manually placing each block ingame?
#3219 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Did you mod minecraft before? Install any texture packs?
#3220 [16:29] <mib_ilc17w> i find it really hard
#3221 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Vinven - MCedit
#3222 [16:30] <Vinven> Sounds like a texture pack issue.
#3223 [16:30] <Vinven> I had that before.
#3224 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Very common issue with minecraft updates
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#3226 [16:30] <mib_ilc17w> i instqlled airship and texture pack right before i updated
#3227 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w - Please go to your hard drive, go to ~/library/application support/minecraft folder
#3228 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything inside except for the saves folder
#3229 [16:31] <mib_ilc17w> ok brb
#3230 [16:31] <mib_ilc17w> im in appsuppot
#3231 [16:31] <mib_ilc17w> *support
#3232 [16:31] <mib_ilc17w> but i cant find the minecraft folder
#3233 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, may be in the wrong folder.
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#3236 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Try /users/your_user_name/library/application support/
#3237 [16:32] <babajaga> hi everyone
#3238 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> ‘lo babajaga
#3239 [16:32] <AC2195> um how do i set up a new minecraft jar
#3240 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> AC2195 - What do you mean, “set up a new minecraft.jar”
#3241 [16:32] <babajaga> can s/o helkp me with my server
#3242 [16:32] <babajaga> please
#3243 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> babajaga - What kind of help?
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#3245 [16:33] <AC2195> um i wanna download the better than wolves map pack
#3246 [16:33] <babajaga> i have few question
#3247 [16:33] <AC2195> but i need modloader for that
#3248 [16:33] <mib_ilc17w> ok found it
#3249 [16:33] <AC2195> and i cant find the minecraft jar folder
#3250 [16:33] <babajaga> for example how to choose your server map
#3251 [16:33] <mib_ilc17w> delete everything apart from saves?
#3252 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> AC2195 - What operating system are you on?
#3253 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w - Yes
#3254 [16:33] <AC2195> windows 7
#3255 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: there was a FAQ for that (: mac/.minecraft
#3256 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - Ah, sorry, didn’t remember it
#3257 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> ??> AC2195 win/.minecraft
#3258 [16:34] <VoxelHead> AC2195: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#3259 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft.jar file will be inside .minecraft/bin
#3260 [16:34] <AC2195> yh ive done that and gone into the 'bin' folder
#3261 [16:34] <AC2195> but the file doesnt open
#3262 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> babajaga - The server.properties file will be the one that points to what folder the server uses for the world
#3263 [16:34] <AC2195> and error message pops up
#3264 [16:35] <mib_ilc17w> ok done.
#3265 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> AC2195 - You need to open it up with winrar or 7zip
#3266 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w - Try minecraft now
#3267 [16:35] <mib_ilc17w> deleted everything but not saves what now?
#3268 [16:35] <AC2195> where do i get that from
#3269 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w - Try minecraft now
#3270 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> AC2195 - Download and install it, google for winrar or 7zip
#3271 [16:35] <AC2195> ok 1 sec
#3272 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> 7zip is free.
#3273 [16:36] <dplummer> GreyVulpine: I updated lwjgl and am still getting the fatal error: http://pastie.org/2151747
#3274 [16:36] <mib_ilc17w> Grey vulpine
#3275 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w -Yes?
#3276 [16:37] <mib_ilc17w> i done what yhou said delete everything but saves
#3277 [16:37] <babajaga> and how to set a welcome essage
#3278 [16:37] <AC2195> thank you greyvulpine ur amazing
#3279 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> babajaga - Not possible with the original server. only with a modded server like bukkit
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#3281 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w - Yes?
#3282 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w - Does minecraft work now?
#3283 [16:37] * GreyVulpine pokes DopeGhoti, “You there?”
#3283 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> intermittently
#3284 [16:38] <mib_ilc17w> do i need anything coz in that folder "minecraft i just have saves
#3285 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Arch linux, has: http://pastie.org/2151747
#3286 [16:38] <babajaga> ok and how to start a new map
#3287 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w - Try launching minecraft now
#3288 [16:38] <babajaga> ?
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#3290 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> babajaga - Delete the “world” folder
#3291 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> The server will generate a new one when you launch it again
#3292 [16:38] <mib_8r111j> Hi I purchased the game but cannot download it
#3293 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp doesn’t work?
#3294 [16:39] <babajaga> ok
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#3297 [16:39] <shortybsd> so is everything good with 1.7.x ?
#3298 [16:39] <mib_8r111j> The site works but when I run the software it asks for my login and when I entr my login it says not downloaded
#3299 [16:40] <mib_8r111j> User not premium
#3300 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - What does it say above “Not Downloaded”
#3301 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - When did you purchase it?
#3302 [16:40] <mib_8r111j> 4 days back
#3303 [16:40] <mib_ilc17w> its not opening!?
#3304 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - Was money taken out of the financial institution you used to pay for it?
#3305 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w - What do you mean?
#3306 [16:40] <mib_8r111j> Yes
#3307 [16:40] <mib_8r111j> I checked it
#3308 [16:41] <tikidad> Is anyone else having sound issues (very very low sound) since the update?
#3309 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - Check your profile page at minecraft.net, check the bottom of the page, do you see any gift codes?
#3310 [16:41] <dplummer> DopeGhoti: I'm running into that pastie fatal error with the new 1.7 on archlinux 64. i just tried updating lwjgl, no change.
#3311 [16:41] <mib_ilc17w> i double click right clck open and nothing pops open
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#3313 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w - Did you run minecraft.app?
#3314 [16:42] <mib_8r111j> There were no gift codes
#3315 [16:42] <stomper> hello, I'm back this is stomper, it happened again but it seemed to happen after I installed the too many items mod but I did it all correctly so I don't undertsand how this is happened
#3316 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - Then the only thing I can suggest you do, is use the support page at www.minecraft.net/support
#3317 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - Use Account -> premium
#3318 [16:43] <mib_ilc17w> wheres minecraft.app at?
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#3320 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w - How did you launch minecraft in the first palce?
#3321 [16:43] <mib_ilc17w> it was in my dock and stuff
#3322 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_ilc17w - Could you try downloading minecraft again from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3323 [16:44] <stomper> unless I did mess up the installation...
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#3326 [16:45] <SLK> hello
#3327 [16:45] <mib_8r111j> How do I get a premium account, paid for it
#3328 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - Contact mojang using their support page at www.minecraft.net/support
#3329 [16:46] <mib_82tbyk> i dont get how to install the game at all
#3330 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_82tbyk -http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3331 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> stomper - Most likely, yes.
#3332 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> ??> stomper win/reinst
#3333 [16:46] <VoxelHead> stomper: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3334 [16:46] <VoxelHead> stomper: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3335 [16:46] <SLK> gre vulpine i remember u
#3336 [16:46] * GreyVulpine waves
#3336 [16:46] <stomper> apadata dosn't work on my comp as it always says access denied
#3337 [16:46] <mib_8r111j> Thats where I started
#3338 [16:47] <stomper> I have to install mods via the texture pack folder
#3339 [16:47] <mib_ilc17w> i think its working no black screen just updating.
#3340 [16:47] <mib_ilc17w> i looked in trash lol
#3341 [16:47] <SLK> sooo my minetcraft multiplayer online isnt working(non beta)
#3342 [16:47] <mib_82tbyk> i dont get what you just said
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#3344 [16:48] <mib_82tbyk> do i have to buy the game in orde to download it
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#3346 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_82tbyk - Yes
#3347 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> SLK - Could you be any more specific?
#3348 [16:49] <montezuma> hello i downloaded minecraft to my computer and i bought it when i try to play it it says plug-in unresponsive what does that mean?
#3349 [16:49] <mib_8r111j> I paid for the game And Ive waited for a while but it still doesnt work
#3350 [16:49] <mib_82tbyk> would i be able to buy the game at gamestop
#3351 [16:49] <SLK> yes, every time i try to conect it gives me a black box with a white outline, yes my java is running and updated
#3352 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_82tbyk - Nope. Online only.
#3353 [16:50] <mib_ilc17w> OMG I LOVE YHOU GREYVULPINE!!!!!!!
#3354 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - Again, we don’t deal with account problems here, try minecraft.net/support
#3355 [16:50] <montezuma> can some1 help me
#3356 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> montezuma - Try uninstalling and reinstall java
#3357 [16:50] <montezuma> ok
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#3359 [16:51] <SLK> im having the same issue that I had before
#3360 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> SLK - You’re using classic?
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#3362 [16:51] <SLK> yes classic
#3363 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Could you try clearing your browser’s cache and temporary files?
#3364 [16:52] <mib_82tbyk> how do i get the part where i have to type in %appdata%
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#3366 [16:52] <SLK> how do i do that rey?
#3367 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_82tbyk - Again, you need to purchase an account before you can play minecraft beta
#3368 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> SLK - Depends on what operating system you’re on, and what browser you’re using
#3369 [16:52] <stomper> when I type %appdata% it dosn't let me access it it only says access denied
#3370 [16:52] <mib_82tbyk> i have an account
#3371 [16:52] <SLK> winows vista
#3372 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_82tbyk - Did you purchase an account?
#3373 [16:53] <xsmile> GreyVulpine, tried logging in again now. For whatever reason, it worked on the second try. Thanks for the help anyway. You're doing a great job.
#3374 [16:53] <mib_82tbyk> no
#3375 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_82tbyk - Then you won’t be able to download minecraft beta
#3376 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> xsmile - Glad to hear it. Thanks :)
#3377 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> stomper - What operating system are you on?
#3378 [16:54] <stomper> Windows Vista
#3379 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> SLK - What browser are you using to play minecraft classic?
#3380 [16:54] <xsmile> thanks again and cya
#3381 [16:54] <SLK> internet explorer
#3382 [16:54] <mib_82tbyk> do you know any sites that have the game for free
#3383 [16:54] <mib_82tbyk> internet explorer
#3384 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> stomper - Go to your C: drive, go to your users folder, your name, appdata folder (it’s a hidden folder), roaming, .minecraft
#3385 [16:55] <mib_82tbyk> why cant i play offline
#3386 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_82tbyk - Minecraft beta is NOT free.
#3387 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> We will not help people pirate it
#3388 [16:55] <stomper> ok I'll try it
#3389 [16:55] <stomper> :)
#3390 [16:55] <tyteen4a03> but there is a demo
#3391 [16:55] <tyteen4a03> ?? demo
#3392 [16:55] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#3393 [16:55] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#3394 [16:55] <mib_82tbyk> and when i tried to login it said you need to update your launcher
#3395 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> SLK - Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %temp%
#3396 [16:56] <stomper> ok thank you:)
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#3398 [16:56] <Zixt> Hi
#3399 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> SLK - Please find any folder that are named “minecraft.net” or “www.minecraft.net” and delete them, then try minecraft again
#3400 [16:56] <Zixt> I am running a server and everything works - but all of a sudden it hasn't shown up on the minecraft.net list
#3401 [16:56] <Zixt> People can only connect using World of Minecraft
#3402 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Zixt - Did you turn public mode to false in server.properties?
#3403 [16:57] <SLK> GreyVulpine- thereare no folders there that say minecraft.net
#3404 [16:57] <Zixt> Nope
#3405 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> SLK - How about “www.minecraft.net”?
#3406 [16:57] <Zixt> I'm running fCraft
#3407 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Zixt - That’s really the only reason why it isn’t listed in the public server list at minecraft.net
#3408 [16:58] <SLK> Ok grey found it and deleted it now what?
#3409 [16:58] <Zixt> Hmm
#3410 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> SLK - Try minecraft now
#3411 [16:58] <mib_8r111j> HOw long does it take from the time I have purchased the game to receive and E-mail about the code
#3412 [16:58] <babajaga> is that true that when you go down
#3413 [16:58] <babajaga> you touch the botom
#3414 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - Sometimes instant, usually 4-6 hours on average
#3415 [16:59] <babajaga> 16 block up you find every thing ?
#3416 [16:59] <stomper> ok thank you it worked, I'll see if I can figure out how to install too many items properly next time, thanks:D
#3417 [16:59] <mib_8r111j> For me it has been 4 days now, i should have gotton the E-mail by now
#3418 [16:59] <mib_82tbyk> i saw this thing on youtube that hacks peoples accounts and give you passwords and stuff
#3419 [16:59] <mib_8r111j> What should I do about it now
#3420 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_82tbyk - How about no.
#3421 [16:59] <Zixt> I have Server Visibility on Public - I never changed any settings and it just doesn't appear
#3422 [16:59] <mib_8r111j> What no.
#3423 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_8r111j support
#3424 [16:59] <VoxelHead> mib_8r111j: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#3425 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - I was talking to mib_82tbyk
#3426 [17:00] <mib_8r111j> support?
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#3428 [17:00] <SLK> actually minecraft.net is taking a really long time to load... and i mean the home page
#3429 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> SLK - Try reloading the page?
#3430 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> or the browser
#3431 [17:02] * mib_1tukof [mib_1tukof@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3432 [17:02] <SLK> now im getting a white box when i try to connect to the server
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#3434 [17:02] <mib_1tukof> can some1 plz helpe!!!!!!!
#3435 [17:02] <mib_1tukof> hellooooooo
#3436 [17:02] <mib_8r111j> Can you please check if I am accessble to the game
#3437 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> SLK - Hmm, could you close the browser down, try the %temp% thing again, delete the minecraft folders, and relaunch the browser
#3438 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_1tukof - Only if you tell us what the problem is
#3439 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - Accessible to the game?
#3440 [17:03] <Zixt> GreyVulpine - Got any other ideas as to why it doesn't show up?
#3441 [17:03] <SLK> ok ill be bak if it doesnt work
#3442 [17:03] <mib_8r111j> I mean you got the payment and I can access the game
#3443 [17:03] <Eupryion> Can anyone help with the offline black screen / browser white screen? Win7 64, Java just updated, Videocard just updated, using several browsers.... appdata folder deleted, redownloaded - nothing works. Have java file if interested
#3444 [17:03] <mib_1tukof> how do i play the regular game not the beta and when i try to play the beta it says plug in unresponsive and my java is updated and running
#3445 [17:03] <mib_8r111j> as the credit card shows that the payment has been made
#3446 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_8r111j payment
#3447 [17:04] <VoxelHead> mib_8r111j: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#3448 [17:04] <VoxelHead> mib_8r111j: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#3449 [17:04] <mib_8r111j> I mean I paid for the game
#3450 [17:04] <mib_8r111j> for the minecraft
#3451 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - Also, we’re not Mojang. We’re not affiliated with Mojang. We’re just volunteers here.
#3452 [17:05] <mib_8r111j> Oh ok
#3453 [17:05] <mib_8r111j> Thanks for your support
#3454 [17:05] <mib_8r111j> so you think we should wait longer?
#3455 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_1tukof - Try a different browser perhaps?
#3456 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j -It’s not uncommon for people to have to wait 4-6 hours on average
#3457 [17:05] <mib_1tukof> can some1 help me how do i play the regular game not the beta and when i try to play the beta it says plug in unresponsive and my java is updated and running
#3458 [17:05] * epona92 [epona92@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3459 [17:05] <mib_1tukof> like what
#3460 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Check back in an hour or two, see if you can’t log in then
#3461 [17:05] <mib_8r111j> but in this case it has been 4 days
#3462 [17:06] <mib_1tukof> firefox or regular explorer??
#3463 [17:06] <epona92> help, i can't break anything in my game!
#3464 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_1tukof - Try firefox, or chrome.
#3465 [17:06] <mib_1tukof> i do use chrome
#3466 [17:06] <mib_8r111j> we are using firefox right now
#3467 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> epona92 - Hold down your left mouse button
#3468 [17:06] <epona92> i did, but the blocks won't break
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#3470 [17:06] <epona92> oh wait, hold it down
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#3472 [17:06] <epona92> oh i didn't realize you had to hold it
#3473 [17:06] <epona92> thank you!
#3474 [17:06] * GreyVulpine nods
#3474 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Common mistake, don’t worry about it
#3475 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_1tukof - Try another browser, like firefox
#3476 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - Try just waiting a couple hours, then try logging into minecraft
#3477 [17:07] <mib_8r111j> ok Thanks
#3478 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Eupryion - Still there?
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#3480 [17:09] <Zixt> Hmm
#3481 [17:09] <Zixt> I restarted my server and its shown up
#3482 [17:09] <Eupryion> I paid, I can login, but I can't play on or offline. I updated java, tried IE and Chrome, updated video cards - all I get is a white screen on the browser after it updates, or a blackscreen if I try to play offline
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#3484 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Zixt- Strange, maybe just a corrupt config file then
#3485 [17:09] <Eupryion> # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000006903d218, pid=2008, tid=4484
#3486 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Eupryion - Please use pastebin.com
#3487 [17:09] <Block_Head_77> hello?
#3488 [17:09] <Block_Head_77> can someone help me register my nick please?
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#3490 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Eupryion - Paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
#3491 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Block_Head_77 - On IRC?
#3492 [17:10] <Block_Head_77> yeah
#3493 [17:10] <ScEp> Hi! How do i know when it's my turn? :>
#3494 [17:10] <Block_Head_77> I have an official account for MC
#3495 [17:10] <Block_Head_77> bought it
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#3497 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Very simply put, /msg nickserv REGISTER password email
#3498 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you use a valid email address
#3499 [17:11] <Eupryion> rgr, using pastebin
#3500 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> ScEp - Please, just ask your question, we’ll get to you when we can
#3501 [17:11] <ScEp> ok, ty
#3502 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> I think it’s just me at this time of day.. so I may take some time..
#3503 [17:11] * GreyVulpine coughs
#3503 [17:11] <Eupryion> http://pastebin.com/e1tY5WL2
#3504 [17:11] <Eupryion> TY
#3505 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Eupryion - Do you know how to update your ATI video drivers?
#3506 [17:12] <Johca> Hi! I have a new Minecraft multiplayer server (vanilla 1.7). It all seems to run ok, except all the clients have an issue where if you teleport or interact with something like a minecart, your screen goes blank. Other people can see you move your head, swing your arm, and jump; but you can't move from the spot. Respawning fixes the issue. Any ideas?
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#3508 [17:12] <ScEp> I have problem with "Minecraft has run out of Memory" since I have my new PC. Win7/64Bit, 8G Ram - have problems running the "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" in cmd (tho set PATH beforehand)
#3509 [17:12] <Eupryion> GreyVulpine - yes, can't use the ATI site - have to go thru Asus for my G73
#3510 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Johca - Have not heard of an issue like that before..
#3511 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Eupryion - Your issue looks like ATI drivers, try updating them
#3512 [17:13] <Eupryion> Curious - I'll try getting the ATI drivers to work
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#3514 [17:13] <noahwhiteis> dose minecraft server support dual core dual processor
#3515 [17:13] <Eupryion> thx GreyVulpine
#3516 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> noahwhiteis - Not really.
#3517 [17:13] <mib_iawzfw> i need toi know how to get into the minecraft .exe files on windows xp
#3518 [17:13] <noahwhiteis> thanks
#3519 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_iawzfw win/.minecraft
#3520 [17:14] <VoxelHead> mib_iawzfw: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#3521 [17:14] <Johca> ok, I'll check on the bug tracker, thanks!
#3522 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> ScEp - What problems do you have when you try that command line?
#3523 [17:14] <ScEp> it won't start ^^
#3524 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any errors when you try to use it?
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#3526 [17:17] <babajaga> sa tu polacy ?
#3527 [17:18] <ScEp> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame
#3528 [17:18] <ScEp> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#3529 [17:18] <ScEp> at [6 places]
#3530 [17:18] <ScEp> Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit.
#3531 [17:18] <mib_8r111j> Where do the gift codes appear on the site
#3532 [17:18] <babajaga> did you install java last version ?
#3533 [17:19] <ScEp> 6.26
#3534 [17:19] <ScEp> yesterday
#3535 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_8r111j - If you bought a gift code, it’ll be on your profile page at minecraft.net
#3536 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> ScEp - Did you download the minecraft.jar under the linux heading?
#3537 [17:21] <ScEp> no
#3538 [17:21] <ScEp> sec
#3539 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> That would be why you’re getting that error then
#3540 [17:22] <mib_iawzfw> thank you for your help had to totaly delete and reinstall to get it to work
#3541 [17:24] <ScEp> it
#3542 [17:24] <ScEp> *it's running and patching right now.
#3543 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> ScEp - Yay?
#3544 [17:24] <ScEp> is there a way to get an 1.6.06 linux jar somehow?
#3545 [17:24] * GreyVulpine shakes
#3545 [17:25] <ScEp> my server is not yet updated to 1.7 :/
#3546 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, we don’t really support older versions of minecraft here, and it’s inadvisable to look for unofficial downloads of previous versions
#3547 [17:26] <ScEp> hm
#3548 [17:26] <ScEp> Fatal error occured (5): null //new line\\ Extracting: windows_natives.jar.lzma to windows_natives.jar
#3549 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Been more than one case of files infected with trojans, stealing passwords.
#3550 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, try deleting %appdata%/.minecraft/bin and trying again
#3551 [17:26] * nuk123456789 [nuk123456789@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3552 [17:26] <nuk123456789> I NEED HELP!
#3553 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> WITH?
#3554 [17:26] <ScEp> did that already
#3555 [17:26] <ScEp> it's the key left of "a" nuk123456789
#3556 [17:26] <nuk123456789> ok so i updated the game to 1.7_02
#3557 [17:27] <nuk123456789> I CANT MOVE
#3558 [17:27] * epona11 [epona11@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3559 [17:27] <nuk123456789> it moves my inventory
#3560 [17:27] <nuk123456789> i checked options and the moves are still wasd
#3561 [17:27] <epona11> hey how do you choose other items in your inventory?
#3562 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> ??> nuk123456789 comcast
#3563 [17:27] <VoxelHead> nuk123456789: (comcast) If you installed 'Constant Guard by Comcast' and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, uninstall it. This is a known issue.
#3564 [17:27] <nuk123456789> :O
#3565 [17:27] <nuk123456789> but dont i need constats guard.......
#3566 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3567 [17:27] <nuk123456789> *constant
#3568 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> epona11 - With the number keys, or “e”
#3569 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> epona11 - or your mouse wheel
#3570 [17:28] <epona11> ah ok, the mouse wheel wasn't working for some reason
#3571 [17:28] <nuk123456789> i cant do things with my whole keyboard like wasd, ill give the constant unstall a try
#3572 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> ScEp - Hmm, could you try deleting the bin folder once more, then try minecraft again?
#3573 [17:29] <ScEp> doing it right now
#3574 [17:29] <ScEp> downloading packages.. ^^
#3575 [17:29] <ScEp> same error again
#3576 [17:29] <nuk123456789> i deleted the minecraft folder bin, asnd game
#3577 [17:29] <nuk123456789> i did it 5 times acutally
#3578 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> nuk123456789 - Nope, it’s comcast’s constant guard for you
#3579 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> has been known to cause problems
#3580 [17:29] <nuk123456789> after the 5th time i was thinking it was either a update glitch or another program
#3581 [17:30] <nuk123456789> k
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#3584 [17:31] <i1> it say when am going to load it up it falled
#3585 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Could you be more specific? What failed?
#3586 [17:32] <i1> minecraft
#3587 [17:32] <i1> the free one
#3588 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> i1 - What is the exact error message you get?
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#3591 [17:32] <i1> wait
#3592 [17:33] <koden> Hello.
#3593 [17:34] <koden> Does anyone have problems playing on Linux?
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#3595 [17:34] <xolotl> i1: What exactly do you mean by "the free one," btw?
#3596 [17:34] <xolotl> koden: Lots of folks can play it on Linux
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#3598 [17:35] <i1> it say the pixel format not accelerated
#3599 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Update your video card’s drivers
#3600 [17:35] <i1> wat lat
#3601 [17:35] <i1> how you do it
#3602 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Depends on what video card you have
#3603 [17:36] <i1> o
#3604 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> i1 - What operating system are you on? Windows? Mac? Linux?
#3605 [17:36] <koden> xolotl: I have recently been crashing alot with Minecraft :( Xorg completely stops
#3606 [17:36] <i1> windows 7
#3607 [17:36] <xolotl> koden: Sounds like a driver issue; what card/driver?
#3608 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Please go to your start menu, right click on Computer, and go to properties
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#3610 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Could you please tell me the System Type: listed there
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#3612 [17:37] <dr_bibble> hi i need some help with minecraft
#3613 [17:37] <i1> wat one
#3614 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> i1 - The “System Type”, is it 32 or 64 bit?
#3615 [17:38] <xolotl> i1: "What." It is spelled "what," not "wat."
#3616 [17:38] <i1> 32
#3617 [17:38] <dr_bibble> when i try to download packages it dosnt what do i do?
#3618 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Do you see the “Device manager” in the upper left corner? Please go there, find the “Display adapters” heading, and tell me what’s listed below
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#3622 [17:39] <Eddie> Is bedrock affected by pistons?
#3623 [17:39] <xolotl> Eddie: no
#3624 [17:39] <Eddie> Logical.
#3625 [17:39] <xolotl> Eddie: Nor is obsidian
#3626 [17:39] <Eddie> I see.
#3627 [17:39] <Eddie> Thanks.
#3628 [17:39] <koden> xolotl: 8800GT, latest kmod-driver.. It ran prefectly fine before, but now I have to restart the computer when it crashes. Could it be something else than Minecraft that is causing it?
#3629 [17:40] <i1> why
#3630 [17:40] <xolotl> koden: Dunno. Maybe keep an eye on your CPU/GPU temperatures? Could be something heat-related, maybe.
#3631 [17:40] <i1> you want me to do that
#3632 [17:40] <xolotl> koden: Are those the binary nvidia drivers you're talking about?
#3633 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> i1 - So you can tell me what video card you have, and I can tell you how to update it
#3634 [17:41] <koden> xolotl: from a packetmanager
#3635 [17:41] <i1> it big
#3636 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Yes, I need to know it.
#3637 [17:41] <xolotl> Man, I will never understand that response!
#3638 [17:41] <xolotl> er.
#3639 [17:41] <xolotl> s/!//
#3640 [17:41] <xolotl> Sorry about the overexcitement there
#3641 [17:41] * GreyVulpine snrks
#3641 [17:42] <xolotl> But yeah, the whole: "I need help!"
#3642 [17:42] <xolotl> gah, bloody enter key. I give up; I clearly can't type today.
#3643 [17:43] <XenoCatastrophe> sorry for interrupting.. but can anybody help me? i cant login to minecraft or play it in the browser..
#3644 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> XenoCatastrophe - And why is that?
#3645 [17:44] <XenoCatastrophe> im not sure, when i try to login it just gives me a black screen
#3646 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> XenoCatastrophe - Did it work previously?
#3647 [17:44] <XenoCatastrophe> yes
#3648 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#3649 [17:44] <XenoCatastrophe> and i downloaded all the updates for it
#3650 [17:44] <XenoCatastrophe> yes
#3651 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> ??> XenoCatastrophe win/reinst
#3652 [17:44] <VoxelHead> XenoCatastrophe: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3653 [17:44] <VoxelHead> XenoCatastrophe: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3654 [17:45] <XenoCatastrophe> alright, thanks :)
#3655 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Most common issues are outdated texture packs, and previously installed mods that aren’t compatible.
#3656 [17:45] <i1> Radon X300/X550/X1050 Series Microsoft Corporation WDDM
#3657 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> The instructions above will clear all that out.
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#3659 [17:45] <i1> IS THAT IT
#3660 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Yes i1.
#3661 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Please go here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
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#3663 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Download and install the Full Software Suite, using the link at the bottom
#3664 [17:46] <i1> OK SEE YOU
#3665 [17:46] * GreyVulpine waves
#3665 [17:47] <i1> WERE IS IT
#3666 [17:47] <koden> Noone have Xorg crashes while playing Minecraft? Maybe its my computer that is broken..
#3667 [17:47] <cousindan1> notch
#3668 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Cut the caps, and the download is at the bottom of the page
#3669 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> cousindan1 - No Notch here.
#3670 [17:47] <cousindan1> :p
#3671 [17:47] <i1> the last one
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#3673 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> i1 - No, the Full Software Suite
#3674 [17:48] <XenoCatastrophe> yay it worked! :D <------ very happy girl now
#3675 [17:48] <cousindan1> anyone else getting serious bug with 1.7?
#3676 [17:48] <XenoCatastrophe> thanks
#3677 [17:48] * GreyVulpine nods at XenoCatastrophe
#3677 [17:48] <i1> how long it take
#3678 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Depends on how fast your computer is
#3679 [17:48] <i1> how long you think
#3680 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> cousindan1 - There’s quite a few bugs with 1.7, can you be any more specific?
#3681 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> i1 - 5-10 minutes to download and install it?
#3682 [17:49] <i1> ok
#3683 [17:49] <cousindan1> ah, i was just wondering if it was just me. Obviously not...
#3684 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> cousindan1 - Nope...
#3685 [17:50] <i1> run it or save it
#3686 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> If you can describe some symptoms, I can tell you what the bug is, or maybe how to work around it.
#3687 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Just run it
#3688 [17:50] <i1> it take 4m
#3689 [17:51] <i1> wat happens when done
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#3691 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Once the download finishes, it’ll launch the installer, just install it then
#3692 [17:51] <nuk123456789> vulpine as a thank you can i show u my succesful server?
#3693 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Once you install it, it may ask you to reboot your computer, do so. Otherwise, when it’s done, try minecraft
#3694 [17:51] <i1> dose it give pop ups
#3695 [17:52] <i1> and that
#3696 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Yes, there’ll be a wizard you’ll walk through
#3697 [17:52] <zork> system seems to be always hanging up like the old AOL IM programs or dial up... what's up with that?
#3698 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> nuk123456789 - Sorry, I’m a bit busy here, but glad you got it working
#3699 [17:52] <i1> the i will get them
#3700 [17:52] <nuk123456789> servers been working, it was just my minecraft :P
#3701 [17:52] <i1> will i get them
#3702 [17:53] <i1> yes or no
#3703 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Get what?
#3704 [17:53] <i1> you there
#3705 [17:53] <i1> pop up and bugs and that
#3706 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> i1 - No...?
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#3708 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Just install the ATI drivers, and you should be all set
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#3711 [17:55] <i1> ok when i buy the game will i have to do all thiss allver againe
#3712 [17:55] <i1> it done
#3713 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Nope
#3714 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Did you finish installing it?
#3715 [17:55] <zork> :/ anyone got an idea why every time I log on with my laptop, the system lags horribly?
#3716 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> zork - System specs?
#3717 [17:56] <i1> yes something come u[
#3718 [17:56] <i1> up
#3719 [17:56] <zork> vista
#3720 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> zork - can you give me any more information than that? CPU? RAM? what video card does it have?
#3721 [17:56] <i1> ATI
#3722 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Yes, please go through that program, and install it
#3723 [17:57] <zork> :D sorry, let me check it out to get the right system info...
#3724 [17:57] <i1> BUT I NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN BOX
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#3726 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Put what in box?
#3727 [17:58] <i1> i have to pick a forlder
#3728 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Don’t worry about it, just hit next a few times
#3729 [17:58] <i1> what one
#3730 [17:58] <i1> dont say next
#3731 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Doesn’t matter, it should have filled out a folder for you
#3732 [17:58] <i1> nope
#3733 [17:59] <i1> i pick computer file
#3734 [17:59] <i1> yes or no
#3735 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> i1 - I have no clue what you’re talking about
#3736 [18:00] <i1> pick a folder for ot to insatle in
#3737 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Did it not fill out a folder for you?
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#3739 [18:01] <i1> no
#3740 [18:01] <i1> i have to pick one
#3741 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Does the screen look like this: http://support.amd.com/PublishingImages/Support/GPU-33/GPU-33_Image8.JPG
#3742 [18:02] <i1> yes a bit no back bit
#3743 [18:03] * mib_lkdj2w [mib_lkdj2w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3744 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Try just that path you see in the screenshot then
#3745 [18:03] <zork> manufacturer Asustek, Intel/Core Dual CPU, T6500, 2.10GHZ, 4.0GB, 64-bite
#3746 [18:03] <LDPD> after i downloaded a texture pack, the game locked me out on my one computer, but i can access it from my profile on other computers. i've tried deleting the game and reinstallin it, but nothing seems to be working, any suggestions?
#3747 [18:03] <i1> tape it all in
#3748 [18:03] * mib_qllgww [mib_qllgww@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3749 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Just c:\ATI\
#3750 [18:04] <i1> that it ATI
#3751 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> LDPD - Go to your %appdata%/.minecraft folder and delete the texturepacks folder from there
#3752 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Yes
#3753 [18:04] <babajaga> bye guys
#3754 [18:04] <LDPD> i did
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#3756 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> LDPD - And?
#3757 [18:04] <LDPD> im still locked out
#3758 [18:04] <i1> NOTHING HAPPING CANT STILL INSATLE
#3759 [18:05] <almostroot> LDPD: Locked you out of what? Your computer or the game?
#3760 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Easy on the caps there, why can’t you install?
#3761 [18:05] <LDPD> the load screen goes by in 2 seconds, then a black screen
#3762 [18:05] <almostroot> LDPD: Are you running Windows?
#3763 [18:05] <LDPD> the game
#3764 [18:05] <LDPD> yes
#3765 [18:05] <almostroot> Can you follow these instructions from VoxelHead please:
#3766 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> LDPD - try deleting everything inside the .minecraft folder except for the saves folder
#3767 [18:05] <almostroot> ??> LDPD win/reinst
#3768 [18:05] <VoxelHead> LDPD: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3769 [18:05] <VoxelHead> LDPD: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3770 [18:05] <i1> when i put in ATI
#3771 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Or that ^
#3772 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Try: C:\ATI\
#3773 [18:06] <i1> all it
#3774 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3775 [18:06] <i1> but try
#3776 [18:06] <i1> yes or no
#3777 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3778 [18:08] <i1> IT WORK
#3779 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Indeed.
#3780 [18:08] <XenoCatastrophe> hey um where do you get gun powder from?
#3781 [18:08] <zork> Grey: to answer your question I hope: manufacturer Asustek, Intel/Core Dual CPU, T6500, 2.10GHZ, 4.0GB, 64-bite
#3782 [18:08] <almostroot> XenoCatastrophe: Creepers.
#3783 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> XenoCatastrophe - Killing creepers.
#3784 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Or from dungeon chests
#3785 [18:09] <mib_5bignd> hey I got a question when your ready, my world crashed when I tried to open a chest, so after a couple more tries i decided to try and move the items out of the chest by destroying it and once it should have destroyed the game crashed and wont open now. Do you think I'll just have to delete it or what?
#3786 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> zork - Video card?
#3787 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_5bignd - You can try editing the chest out using a map editor like MCEdit
#3788 [18:09] <i1> it done now what
#3789 [18:09] <mib_5bignd> ok I'll try that
#3790 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Try minecraft now
#3791 [18:10] <i1> something come up
#3792 [18:10] <i1> catalyst
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#3794 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Could you be more specific?
#3795 [18:11] <i1> manger
#3796 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Okay?
#3797 [18:11] <i1> install manger
#3798 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Ah, just wait for the install process to complete
#3799 [18:12] <i1> it is
#3800 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Is it?
#3801 [18:13] <i1> i have to do this thing
#3802 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Do.. what?
#3803 [18:13] <i1> it take me to AMD SITE
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#3805 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Okay?
#3806 [18:14] <koden> Oh. I was just playing another game, still same crash. Guess It wasnt MC's fault! Bye.
#3807 [18:15] <zork> Grey, beats me there are two listed but I don't know why; this is a laptop with obviously one monitor
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#3811 [18:16] <frogcamper> so, waht is this?
#3812 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> zork - Some newer laptops have two GPUs, one for performance/gaming, and one lower power consumption one for every-day tasks
#3813 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> frogcamper - It’s #minecrafthelp
#3814 [18:17] <frogcamper> so theres like 20 people on here who know everything minecraft?
#3815 [18:17] <frogcamper> sweet, i ahve a problem
#3816 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Pretty much
#3817 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> We have solutions
#3818 [18:17] <frogcamper> so i just put in a texture pack
#3819 [18:17] <zork> :s great, now the pc making me feel dumber by the minute
#3820 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> and it black screens
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#3822 [18:18] <frogcamper> but then it wasnt working to its fullest (water was discolored) so i used MCPatcher
#3823 [18:18] <frogcamper> but i left the texture pack in the texture pack folder
#3824 [18:18] <frogcamper> and now minecraft wont start
#3825 [18:18] <frogcamper> is there any way i can resolve that problem?
#3826 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Try a reinstall of minecraft using:
#3827 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> ??> frogcamper win/reinst
#3828 [18:18] <VoxelHead> frogcamper: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3829 [18:18] <VoxelHead> frogcamper: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3830 [18:19] <frogcamper> what?
#3831 [18:19] <frogcamper> i never installed it
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#3833 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#3834 [18:19] <frogcamper> i always play on the site
#3835 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Trust me on this
#3836 [18:19] <Graversimen> hi
#3837 [18:19] <frogcamper> never downloaded it
#3838 [18:19] <Graversimen> i need help
#3839 [18:19] <Graversimen> when i try play in browser i get stone screen :S
#3840 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> frogcamper - Try VoxelHead’s instructions, you’ll see that there are minecraft files tehre
#3841 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> there*
#3842 [18:20] <frogcamper> k
#3843 [18:20] <frogcamper> will i have to repay when i do that?
#3844 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3845 [18:20] <Graversimen> no
#3846 [18:20] <Graversimen> lol
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#3848 [18:20] <frogcamper> sweet, thanks guys
#3849 [18:20] <claude> Hi, can anyone help please. I seem to have lost the file that I was using on minecraft. Anyone know how to recover it?:)
#3850 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> What file claude?
#3851 [18:20] <Graversimen> what file
#3852 [18:20] <Graversimen> lol
#3853 [18:20] <frogcamper> alright, so i need to find the minecraft files and delete everything?
#3854 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#3855 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Everything except for the saves folder
#3856 [18:21] <claude> my world for single player
#3857 [18:21] <Graversimen> except saves :D
#3858 [18:21] <frogcamper> so theres a folder called .minecraft
#3859 [18:21] <frogcamper> do i delete that one?
#3860 [18:21] <Graversimen> yeah
#3861 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> frogcamper - No
#3862 [18:21] <Graversimen> no
#3863 [18:21] <Graversimen> go in it
#3864 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything inside .minecraft except for saves
#3865 [18:21] <Graversimen> and delete all except saves and screenshots :D
#3866 [18:21] * mib_7c3g69 [mib_7c3g69@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3867 [18:21] <frogcamper> alright, lemme pull it up
#3868 [18:22] <Graversimen> i was so mad when i deleted the screenshots :'(
#3869 [18:22] <Graversimen> :P
#3870 [18:22] <zork> Grey: Mobile Intel 4 series Express Chipset Family? Does this help?
#3871 [18:22] <Graversimen> i need heelp
#3872 [18:22] <Graversimen> when i try play in browser i get stone screen :S
#3873 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> zork - A little bit, yeah. Have you tried turning down the video settings inside minecraft?
#3874 [18:22] <frogcamper> alright, i see now
#3875 [18:22] <i1> can you mod in this game
#3876 [18:22] <frogcamper> i think i see
#3877 [18:23] <zork> the monitor is a Generic PnP Monitor
#3878 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> zork - The intel chipset isn’t exactly known for its high-powered gaming capabilities
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#3880 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> i1 - Yes you can. Does minecraft work now?
#3881 [18:23] <zork> no, I will thanks I will try it... I appreciate your time.
#3882 [18:23] <i1> grey screem keep going off
#3883 [18:23] <Graversimen> help me
#3884 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> ??> Graversimen win/reinst
#3885 [18:23] <VoxelHead> Graversimen: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3886 [18:23] <VoxelHead> Graversimen: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3887 [18:23] <blblblsmnc> my computer crashed and now my world is gone how do i get it back
#3888 [18:23] <frogcamper> it says that the file "bin" is in use and i cant delete it
#3889 [18:24] <Graversimen> it was the first time i tried to play
#3890 [18:24] <Graversimen> so there isnt any files
#3891 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> frogcamper - Don’t have minecraft running when you delete those files
#3892 [18:24] <Graversimen> and the windows key doesnt exist
#3893 [18:24] <frogcamper> i dont...
#3894 [18:24] <frogcamper> should i just log out fo the internet and do it?
#3895 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> frogcamper - Go to your task manager, look for a javaw.exe process, and end it.
#3896 [18:24] <Graversimen> btw, i forgot telling a thing
#3897 [18:24] <FlexXOmat> is anyone else having billing issues? i bought it and t wont enable. any ideas?
#3898 [18:24] <Graversimen> its on cellphone
#3899 [18:24] <frogcamper> k
#3900 [18:24] <Graversimen> :D
#3901 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Graversimen - ....
#3902 [18:25] <Graversimen> :P
#3903 [18:25] <Graversimen> maybe its java
#3904 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, g’luck with that Graversimen.
#3905 [18:25] <Graversimen> :P
#3906 [18:25] <Graversimen> yeah
#3907 [18:25] <Graversimen> ill download latest java :P
#3908 [18:25] <blblblsmnc> How do i get a deleter world back, my computer shut off and the world was deleted
#3909 [18:25] <frogcamper> hmm, i might be back soon, lol.
#3910 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> blblblsmnc - Try downloading a map editor called MCedit, opening the world in there, and resaving it (Ctrl+S)
#3911 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Then try your world again in minecraft
#3912 [18:26] <blblblsmnc> just open it in a new world?
#3913 [18:26] <Graversimen> it was deleted
#3914 [18:26] <Graversimen> there isnt any world to open in MC edit
#3915 [18:26] <Graversimen> :P
#3916 [18:27] <mib_5bignd> ok im back, i deleted the chest with MCEdit then moved my guy away from it a little bit and when i opened the world it worked then when i looked over at the items that dropped from the chest it crashed again and not its not opening for more than a second or 2
#3917 [18:28] <Graversimen> glitched items
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#3919 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_5bignd - Try deleting the items using mcedit then?
#3920 [18:28] <Graversimen> yeah
#3921 [18:28] <n00b> hey guys, just wondering why when im running my minecraft app it doesnt open an application. im running it on mac osx and have the newest version
#3922 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Should be an option in mcedit to select and delete the entities
#3923 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> ??> noob mac/permissions
#3924 [18:29] <VoxelHead> noob: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#3925 [18:29] <VoxelHead> noob: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#3926 [18:29] <mib_5bignd> yea thats what i thought, just makin sure thats what i needed
#3927 [18:29] <mib_5bignd> ill try
#3928 [18:30] <Graversimen> haha
#3929 [18:30] <n00b> it is in the application folder, but terminal stil says no such file directory exists
#3930 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> noob - Try doing: chmod +x<space>
#3931 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Then dragging the minecraft.app into the terminal window
#3932 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Finish it up by adding: /Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
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#3934 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Press enter once you have all that in one line
#3935 [18:32] <i1> it working thank alot
#3936 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Glad to hear it i1
#3937 [18:32] <blblblsmnc> How do i recover a deleted world
#3938 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> blblblsmnc - Did you delete it yourself? Or was it a computer system failure that made the world go away?
#3939 [18:33] <i1> your the best it took a hour but so will will i have to do it all over agine when i buy it and grafics bad for classic
#3940 [18:33] <blblblsmnc> computer system failure
#3941 [18:33] <n00b> OMG
#3942 [18:33] <n00b> thank you so much
#3943 [18:33] <n00b> its workin
#3944 [18:33] <EntityReborn> Heh
#3945 [18:33] * GreyVulpine nods at n00b
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#3946 [18:33] <frogcamper> hey, im back
#3947 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> blblblsmnc - Use MCedit, download it from here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/13807-mcedit-minecraft-world-editor-compatible-with-mc-beta-166/
#3948 [18:34] <i1> will i
#3949 [18:34] <frogcamper> i just dont really understand the directions you gave me earlier
#3950 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> blblblsmnc - Once you run MCedit, you can load your world using that, then resave it again immediately.
#3951 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> blblblsmnc - It’ll appear in the minecraft list again once you do that
#3952 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> frogcamper - Were you able to delete the bin folder?
#3953 [18:35] <mib_5bignd> yay! that worked its working now, thanks
#3954 [18:35] <frogcamper> i reset my comp, now i cant find it again, i failed lol
#3955 [18:35] <frogcamper> any help on how i can find the folder?
#3956 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> frogcamper - Windows, yes?
#3957 [18:35] <frogcamper> ye
#3958 [18:35] <frogcamper> yes
#3959 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> XP? vista? 7?
#3960 [18:36] <frogcamper> vista
#3961 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#3962 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> You’ll be able to find the .minecraft folder from there.
#3963 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything inside except for the saves folder
#3964 [18:36] <frogcamper> oh sweet, thanks
#3965 [18:36] <frogcamper> now how do i turn off java?
#3966 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Try it now, we’ll deal with the java thing if you’re not able to delete it
#3967 [18:37] <frogcamper> it doesnt appear on my control panel
#3968 [18:37] <frogcamper> oh good, it worked
#3969 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Now try minecraft again
#3970 [18:37] <frogcamper> so now i can play mc again right?
#3971 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully, yes.
#3972 [18:37] <frogcamper> thanks, ill be back if it doesnt work
#3973 [18:38] <frogcamper> but before i go
#3974 [18:38] * GreyVulpine nods
#3974 [18:38] <frogcamper> should i use the patcher BEFORE i put in the texture pack this time?
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#3976 [18:39] <wippler> help
#3977 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Modding minecraft is something I’m not too familiar with, by choice. Make sure MC patcher has been updated for 1.7 before you use it
#3978 [18:39] <wippler> plz
#3979 [18:39] <frogcamper> k
#3980 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Also, make sure the texture pack you’re attempting to use, also has been updated for 1.7
#3981 [18:39] <frogcamper> ill try it first, if it doesnt work, ill repeat the deleting process
#3982 [18:39] * GreyVulpine nods
#3982 [18:39] <frogcamper> thanks for the help
#3983 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> G’luck
#3984 [18:39] <frogcamper> c ya
#3985 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> wippler - Help with?
#3986 [18:40] <wippler> i bought the game twice on 2 accounts it doesnt work on both but ive still been charged twice
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#3988 [18:40] <wippler> sometime ago have purchased minecraft on darklife83. it didnt work so i thought it must've not bought it. so i tried on my other account magicalmustach. i bought it and it didnt work so i thought i didnt buy it as well so i said whatever. but then i see that my credit card has been charged for both and i cant even play on both accounts. please help. i want to
#3989 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> wippler - Try logging into the account at minecraft.net, and go to your profile page, look at the bottom of the page, and make sure there are no gift codes listed there
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#3991 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> !paid magicalmustach
#3992 [18:41] <wippler> ok
#3993 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> !paid darklife83
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#3995 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Both those accounts are valid and premium
#3996 [18:41] <wippler> so wha now?
#3997 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Log in using the client you download from:
#3998 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
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#4001 [18:44] <wippler> i just tried playing it roze to a dark screeen
#4002 [18:44] <wippler> froze*
#4003 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Bleh. Alright.
#4004 [18:44] <Dee> Id there anyone here who would be able to answer a question I have about gift codes? It's more of a Legal issue I want help with. I can't find any thing about this on the website.
#4005 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Dee - We can try and answer, but we’re not Mojang.
#4006 [18:45] <Dee> yeah but any help would be good.
#4007 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> wippler - Has minecraft ever worked before?
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#4009 [18:45] <wippler> no
#4010 [18:45] <panitaliemom> why in my mine craft it lags a lot please help!!!!
#4011 [18:45] <wippler> actually yes
#4012 [18:45] <Dee> I'm just wondering to what extent do I "own" the gift code?
#4013 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Dee - Could you be more specific?
#4014 [18:46] <wippler> like once a month after i bought it only for a while then froze and didnt work since
#4015 [18:46] <panitaliemom> why in my mine craft it lags a lot please help!!!!
#4016 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Dee - Once you buy the gift code, it is yours. You can do whatever you want with it, including reselling it
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#4018 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> wippler - What operating system are you on?
#4019 [18:47] <Dee> well how much would the code be mine? I.E do I own say 3 copys of minecraft if I have 2 gift codes and the game bought for my self?
#4020 [18:47] <Dee> Thanks gray
#4021 [18:47] <Dee> grey *
#4022 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Dee - A gift code is just that, you buying a copy of minecraft to give to somebody else.
#4023 [18:48] <panitaliemom> greyvulpline do you know how
#4024 [18:48] <wippler> @panitaliemom maybbe your computer isnt good
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#4027 [18:48] <panitaliemom> no it works fine
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#4029 [18:48] <panitaliemom> its really fast
#4030 [18:49] <wippler> @panitlamom does it work well with other games?
#4031 [18:49] <panitaliemom> yes
#4032 [18:49] <wippler> oh nvm i dont know about computers or games thats why im here
#4033 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> wippler - What operating system are you on?
#4034 [18:49] <wippler> u mean computer?
#4035 [18:49] <panitaliemom> maybe its because i am playing in browser i will try downloading it
#4036 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Windows? Mac? Linux?
#4037 [18:50] <Pewpew> Anyone know what might cause the Minecraft client to just be a black screen after you update it to 1.7?
#4038 [18:50] <wippler> windows
#4039 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Pewpew - Mods, or old texture packs
#4040 [18:50] <wippler> windows
#4041 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Solution we give people, delete everything in the .minecraft folder except for the saves folder.
#4042 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft afterwards
#4043 [18:50] <Dee> panitaliemom: make sure you have java updated. I used to have issues with running minecraft till I updated it.
#4044 [18:50] <panitaliemom> mine is windows 7
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#4047 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> wippler - Could you give me an exact version of windows?
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#4049 [18:51] <panitaliemom> my laptop is compaq hp
#4050 [18:51] <frogcamper> frogcamper here again, with one llast question
#4051 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> frogcamper - Ask away
#4052 [18:51] <blinky> minecraft wont work
#4053 [18:51] <wippler> how do i find out what it is specificly?
#4054 [18:51] <frogcamper> what was the thing i was supposed to earch in the start menu to find the Roaming file?
#4055 [18:51] <blinky> i downloaded newest java and it still wont work
#4056 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> wippler - Go to your start menu, right click on Computer, go to properties
#4057 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> wippler - Tell me what the OS is
#4058 [18:52] <blblblsmnc> i downloaded mcedit what do i do now
#4059 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> frogcamper - %appdata%
#4060 [18:52] <frogcamper> oh, thanks
#4061 [18:52] <frogcamper> ill use that
#4062 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> blblblsmnc - Run it, open up your world with it
#4063 [18:52] <wippler> windows 7 home premium
#4064 [18:52] <blinky> fatal error 4 null
#4065 [18:52] <Pewpew> Worked Grey Vulpine, thanks. =)
#4066 [18:53] <blinky> how do i fix it
#4067 [18:53] <panitaliemom> i never even tried minecraft once what a bummer
#4068 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> blinky - Is this with minecraft classic or beta? Is this in the browser or the downloaded client?
#4069 [18:53] <blinky> both
#4070 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> wippler - Alright. Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#4071 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> wippler - Find the .minecraft folder, delete everything except for the saves folder inside.
#4072 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> wippler - Then try running minecraft again
#4073 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> blinky - Both?
#4074 [18:54] <blinky> nothing shows up
#4075 [18:54] <Dee> blinky use this: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp to check and make sure you have the new version of java. If not you might want to redownload the mc client.
#4076 [18:54] <blinky> i have the newest one
#4077 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> blinky - Have you deleted the minecraft files?
#4078 [18:55] <blinky> no
#4079 [18:55] <Dee> Try re downloading the client then. Do you have any mods installed?
#4080 [18:55] <blinky> no
#4081 [18:55] <wippler> @greyvulpine it worked omg thank you so much
#4082 [18:55] <blinky> i tried nothing happens
#4083 [18:56] <Dee> Might be worth trying to redownloading it then. Does help sometimes.
#4084 [18:56] <panitaliemom> well if u guys cant help i guess i cant do anything
#4085 [18:56] <Dee> o ok
#4086 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> wippler - Glad to help
#4087 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> panitaliemom - Try turning down the video options in minecraft?
#4088 [18:57] <panitaliemom> how
#4089 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Go to the options menu in minecraft, go to Video settings
#4090 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Try turning down some of the settings in there
#4091 [18:57] <panitaliemom> illtry
#4092 [18:58] <panitaliemom> what should i put for sensitivity
#4093 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> panitaliemom - Sensitivity?
#4094 [18:59] <panitaliemom> sorry i mean the graphics on or off
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#4096 [18:59] <panitaliemom> fast
#4097 [18:59] <blinkeym> minecraft wont work
#4098 [18:59] <blinkeym> fatal error occured 4 null
#4099 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> Sure, put it on fast, try putting the render distance down to normal, try turning advanced OpenGL to off.
#4100 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Turn off smooth lighting
#4101 [19:00] <blinkeym> how do i fix it
#4102 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Then try minecraft again panitaliemom
#4103 [19:00] <Pewpew> Now that the 1.7 upgrade has gone out, how can we update our servers without losing the world data?
#4104 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Pewpew - Just replace the minecraft_server binary
#4105 [19:00] <panitaliemom> it was off from the begining
#4106 [19:00] <blinkeym> i have the newest java and it will not work
#4107 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Pewpew - Don’t touch your world folder. (or better yet, back it up beforehand)
#4108 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> blinkeym - Is this with minecraft classic or beta?
#4109 [19:01] <blinkeym> beta
#4110 [19:01] <blinkeym> i bought it and it will not work
#4111 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#4112 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#4113 [19:01] <panitaliemom> yes
#4114 [19:01] <blinkeym> yes
#4115 [19:01] <panitaliemom> windows 7
#4116 [19:01] <blinkeym> same
#4117 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> panitaliemom - I was telling you to turn down the graphics settings in minecraft, then try minecraft again
#4118 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> blinkey - Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#4119 [19:02] <panitaliemom> i did
#4120 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> blinkeym - Find the .minecraft folder, delete everything inside except for the save folder
#4121 [19:02] <blinkeym> ive tried that nothing shows up
#4122 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Then try minecraft again blinkeym
#4123 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> blinkeym - What do you mean “nothing shows up”?
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#4125 [19:02] <blinkeym> i typed in app data and nothing happens
#4126 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Type in: %appdata%
#4127 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> With the percentage signs
#4128 [19:03] <blinkeym> i did
#4129 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> One word?
#4130 [19:03] <blinkeym> i deleted minecraft and redowlloadied it but wont work and yes one word
#4131 [19:04] <Graversimen> what you mean, nothing comes up?
#4132 [19:04] <blinkeym> i typed it and it said search not found
#4133 [19:04] <Graversimen> with the % 's ?
#4134 [19:04] <blinkeym> yes.
#4135 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Please try typing it in again, %appdata%
#4136 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Copy it if you have to
#4137 [19:05] <blinkeym> ok
#4138 [19:05] <Graversimen> you sure you didnt miss spell ?
#4139 [19:05] <Graversimen> :P
#4140 [19:05] <blinkeym> it said roaming
#4141 [19:05] <Graversimen> yeah
#4142 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Go into the roaming folder then
#4143 [19:05] <blinkeym> okay
#4144 [19:05] <blinkeym> im in the minecraft folder now
#4145 [19:05] <Graversimen> :P
#4146 [19:05] <Graversimen> :O
#4147 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything inside that folder except for “saves”
#4148 [19:06] <Graversimen> thats amazing
#4149 [19:06] <blinkeym> okay
#4150 [19:06] <Graversimen> and screenshots
#4151 [19:06] <Graversimen> if you have some :P
#4152 [19:06] <blinkeym> its bin resourses and last login
#4153 [19:06] <panitaliemom> yes it works but i have a sucky laptop
#4154 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> panitaliemom - It’s to be expected. Minecraft is not a resouce-light game
#4155 [19:06] <blinkeym> there us not a saves folder
#4156 [19:06] <panitaliemom> i am going to try it on my other laptop
#4157 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> blinkeym - Then just delete everything there
#4158 [19:07] <Graversimen> there is a saves folder
#4159 [19:07] <blinkeym> okay
#4160 [19:07] <Graversimen> always
#4161 [19:07] <Graversimen> :P
#4162 [19:07] * GreyVulpine coughs
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#4163 [19:07] <Ketsueki> blinkeym: press the windows key (it has a windows logo picture on it) at the same time as the 'r' key, like you're shifting using the windows logo key instead of shift.
#4164 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Not if you didn’t make a save
#4165 [19:07] <blinkeym> ok
#4166 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Ketsueki - We got this.
#4167 [19:07] <blinkeym> now what
#4168 [19:07] <Ketsueki> Ah good, I thought you were still having trouble... oh right roaming is a subfolder
#4169 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> blinkeym found the folder
#4170 [19:07] <zelda> Minecraft wont down load
#4171 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> blinkeym - Now try minecraft again
#4172 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> zelda - And why is that?
#4173 [19:08] <LmanCZ> hi guys, do you happen to know wether there's going to be an update fixing pistons duplicating blocks?
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#4175 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> LmanCZ - Most likely, yes
#4176 [19:08] <blinkeym> it says C:\Users\Andrew\AppData\Roaming
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#4178 [19:08] <LmanCZ> any idea how long it can take?
#4179 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> blinkeym - Try minecraft now
#4180 [19:08] <Graversimen> omg
#4181 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> LmanCZ - We have no ETA on that
#4182 [19:08] <blinkeym> while it is still up?
#4183 [19:08] <Graversimen> help me
#4184 [19:08] <LmanCZ> thanks
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#4186 [19:08] <Graversimen> i got 4100 ms lag! :S
#4187 [19:08] <blinkeym> do i click okay?
#4188 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> blinkeym - Click.. okay? On what?
#4189 [19:09] <mr_evil> mt game just crashed when i tries to raise myself on a block that was being pushed my a piston (gravel and pressure plate on it) it crashed and i lost all any ideas?
#4190 [19:09] <blinkeym> C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming
#4191 [19:09] <zelda> I dont know. It installs the updates then goes to a black screen and nothing haooens
#4192 [19:09] <blinkeym> there is an okay option
#4193 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> ??> zelda win/reinst
#4194 [19:09] <VoxelHead> zelda: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4195 [19:09] <VoxelHead> zelda: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4196 [19:09] <mr_evil> help?
#4197 [19:10] <blinkeym> it says options, browse and okay
#4198 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - Try a different world?
#4199 [19:10] <mr_evil> yes but i lost it all
#4200 [19:10] <mr_evil> :(
#4201 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> blinkeym - I have no idea what that’s referring to.
#4202 [19:10] <blinkeym> well i clicked the windows buttion and r and thats what came up
#4203 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> mr_evil - If you’re feeling adventurous, you can try downloading MCedit and editing your world manually, remove the piston
#4204 [19:11] <Graversimen> didnt he loose the map ?
#4205 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> blinkeym - Ignore it, you’ve deleted everything in the .minecraft folder, now try minecraft again
#4206 [19:11] <zelda> i did that and it didnt work
#4207 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Graversimen - No
#4208 [19:11] <Graversimen> :O
#4209 [19:11] <blinkeym> re download it or try it from the download spot?
#4210 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> zelda - Did, what exactly?
#4211 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> blinkeym - Either will work
#4212 [19:11] <PiXLaT3D> Hi I downloaded a free 1.6.6 version of Minecraft and it was working fine and I installed the TooManyItems mod and 3 texture packs and it worked fine then my brother "accedentaly" deleted it so I re-downloaded Minecraft and the mods and it worked fine again....
#4213 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> A “free” 1.6.6 version?
#4214 [19:12] <blinkeym> okay
#4215 [19:12] <i1> grey minecraft so laggey mate
#4216 [19:12] <Graversimen> we dont help about cracked versions
#4217 [19:12] <relsqui> PiXLaT3D: there is no free 1.6.6 version. you are mistaken. :P
#4218 [19:12] <Graversimen> there is
#4219 [19:12] <Graversimen> cracked
#4220 [19:12] <zelda> the %AppData% thing
#4221 [19:12] <PiXLaT3D> Then I deleted it and bought the game and downloaded it from minecraft.net and its not updating or anything
#4222 [19:12] <blinkeym> it says failed to launch fatal error occured 4 null
#4223 [19:12] <i1> there is you d
#4224 [19:12] <PiXLaT3D> Im on a MAC
#4225 [19:13] <xolotl> PiXLaT3D: Go to your Terminal, run "cat /etc/hosts", and use pastebin.com to show us the output
#4226 [19:13] <mr_evil> @blinkeym hit option on your launcher and hit force update
#4227 [19:13] <PiXLaT3D> lol is that a tutorial for Windows
#4228 [19:14] <xolotl> PiXLaT3D: no
#4229 [19:14] <blinkeym> do i login first?
#4230 [19:14] <zelda> i guess no one wants to help
#4231 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Nope, mac actually
#4232 [19:14] <PiXLaT3D> xolotl
#4233 [19:14] <Zixt> I know this isn't the Permissions channel, but would anyone happen to know much about it?
#4234 [19:14] <mr_evil> blinkeym no you do option then login
#4235 [19:14] <xolotl> Zixt: Try #bukkit
#4236 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> zixt, Sorry, nope
#4237 [19:14] <PiXLaT3D> ok so lol wheres the Terminal thing :P
#4238 [19:14] <PiXLaT3D> xolotl
#4239 [19:14] <blinkeym> it said will force! do i click done or wait for something
#4240 [19:14] <xolotl> PiXLaT3D: On your hard drive under Applications and then Utilities, I think
#4241 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> PiXLaT3D - Go to your finder, in the upper right corner
#4242 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Type in “terminal”
#4243 [19:14] <Zixt> Hm
#4244 [19:15] <xolotl> Or what GreyVulpine said, I guess. I don't actually use OSX myself
#4245 [19:15] <mr_evil> blinkeym click done and login
#4246 [19:15] <blinkeym> it says fatal error occured null 4
#4247 [19:15] <PiXLaT3D> found it :D now what... its got a white cancel sign thing
#4248 [19:15] <zelda> anyone?
#4249 [19:15] <xolotl> PiXLaT3D: Right. Type in what I said (without the quotes), then use pastebin.com to show us the output
#4250 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> zelda - Did you delete the .minecraft folder?
#4251 [19:16] <PiXLaT3D> It says; " You cannot open the application 'Terminal' because it is not supported on this architecture
#4252 [19:16] <PiXLaT3D> xolotl
#4253 [19:17] <zelda> @GreyVulpine yes
#4254 [19:17] <blinkeym> fatal error occured 4 null
#4255 [19:17] <blinkeym> still says that now what\/
#4256 [19:17] <xolotl> PiXLaT3D: Oh, I guess I didn't think too hard about what you said about the sign (thought you just meant you had a command prompt)
#4257 [19:17] <PiXLaT3D> Im on MacBook.. shoulda said that first
#4258 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> blinkeym - I’d look at your security software then, make sure java isn’t being blocked
#4259 [19:17] <blinkeym> okay.
#4260 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> zelda - What happens now, when you try to launch minecraft?
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#4262 [19:18] <xolotl> PiXLaT3D: Apparently you have an Intel-only version of Terminal installed
#4263 [19:18] <zelda> GreyVulpine- same thing. installs updates then a black screen shows up
#4264 [19:18] <xolotl> PiXLaT3D: I know that there are PPC versions available; I find it a bit odd that you don't already have that one installed.
#4265 [19:18] <mib_qmwtli> how do i update my server?
#4266 [19:18] <xolotl> PiXLaT3D: At any rate, you could try actually browsing to /etc and opening "hosts", but I'm pretty sure that Finder hides all that stuff from the GUIs
#4267 [19:19] <xolotl> PiXLaT3D: If you can't get into the /etc dir, or get a working Terminal, I don't have any ideas
#4268 [19:19] <PiXLaT3D> ef
#4269 [19:20] <xolotl> PiXLaT3D: The issue is that your cracked version probably added some entries there which are getting in the way, which you need to remove
#4270 [19:20] <PiXLaT3D> where is the /etc folder
#4271 [19:20] <xolotl> PiXLaT3D: At the very root of your hard drive
#4272 [19:20] <xolotl> (though again, I'm pretty sure Finder hides it from the GUI)
#4273 [19:20] <PiXLaT3D> explain how to get there
#4274 [19:20] <xolotl> I suppose you could try just typing "hosts" into the search thing, as GreyVulpine suggested with the terminal thing
#4275 [19:20] <zelda> GreyVulpine same thing. it installs updates than goes to a black screen
#4276 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> PiXLaT3D: wait, are you using a PPC Mac?
#4277 [19:21] <PiXLaT3D> a what??
#4278 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> Non-Intel CPU
#4279 [19:21] <xolotl> DopeGhoti: He is
#4280 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> I guarantee you Minecraft will not work on a PPC mac.
#4281 [19:22] * Kayla_ [Kayla_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4282 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> there are no lwjgl PPC libs
#4283 [19:22] <PiXLaT3D> Im on a white MacBook
#4284 [19:22] <xolotl> PiXLaT3D: Anyway, someone else (I'd guess DopeGhoti) can probably help you out further; I'm heading AFK. Good luck...
#4285 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> zelda - Try uninstalling and reinstalling java, if that doesn’t work, try updating your video drivers
#4286 [19:22] <zelda> GreyVulpine thanks will do
#4287 [19:23] <PiXLaT3D> I dont know what version it is.
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#4289 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> PiXLaT3D: go to the Apple menu, and select About This MAc
#4290 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Laters xolotl
#4291 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> PiXLaT3D: what is your Processor?
#4292 [19:23] <PiXLaT3D> lol I have know idea
#4293 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> it will tell you if you follow the direction I _just_ gave you.
#4294 [19:24] <PiXLaT3D> lol sorry bro
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#4296 [19:24] <PiXLaT3D> do i find that in the finder DopeGhoti, or do i go to apple.com or whatever
#4297 [19:25] <PiXLaT3D> the apple menu
#4298 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> look in the upper left corner of your screen
#4299 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> you should see an Apple.
#4300 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> That's a menu
#4301 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> It's called the Apple menu.
#4302 [19:25] * frogcamper [frogcamper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4303 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> Click it.
#4304 [19:25] <bletch> Hello, I just bought Minecraft and it states in the FAQ's that I should get an email link to download the correct version of the game. The only link in the email brings me to the .net site without any link to the launcher or installer only an orphan file that looks for another program to run it
#4305 [19:25] <PiXLaT3D> sorry im only 14
#4306 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> who is 'only' and why should I instant message them the number fourteen?
#4307 [19:26] <frogcamper> vulpine, you remember me?
#4308 [19:26] <PiXLaT3D> Processir 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
#4309 [19:26] <Eddie> Professor GHz
#4310 [19:26] <bletch> So, what do I do now?
#4311 [19:27] <PiXLaT3D> *Processor
#4312 [19:27] <PiXLaT3D> is that good or bad, DopeGhoti
#4313 [19:27] <frogcamper> can someone help me?
#4314 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> PiXLaT3D: okay, so you're not running on a PPC chip. Good. What version of OS X have you got installed?
#4315 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> (it'll be immediately below where it says 'Mac OS X'
#4316 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> )
#4317 [19:27] <PiXLaT3D> 10.5.8
#4318 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> Hm.
#4319 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> There is literally no reason that Terminal should give you that error
#4320 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> unless your OS install is broken
#4321 [19:28] <PiXLaT3D> hm.
#4322 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> so you'll have to start with fixing your OS, which is beyond the scope of #minecrafthelp.
#4323 [19:28] <frogcamper> dope, mind helping me?
#4324 [19:28] <PiXLaT3D> Its my moms mac so
#4325 [19:28] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: out of curiosity; do those apple genius bars help with this stuff? I've never used one...
#4326 [19:28] <PiXLaT3D> lol
#4327 [19:29] <Ketsueki> PiXLaT3D: FYI, by 'this stuff' I mean 'getting a working terminal'
#4328 [19:29] <frogcamper> DopeGhoti, can you help me? I have some issues...
#4329 [19:29] <PiXLaT3D> Ketsueki: have you even been talking to me at all??
#4330 [19:30] <PiXLaT3D> hm.
#4331 [19:30] <Ketsueki> PiXLaT3D: I'm actually peeking in during the end of my day while at work to distract my self from problems I've spent too much time on here and need a break from. Plus DopeGhoti was helping you and I didn't want to get in the way. Now he seemed done and I thought a followup question might be helpful.
#4332 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> Ketsueki: that's exactly the sort of thing they help with
#4333 [19:31] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: for a fee or for free?
#4334 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Ketsueki: depends on the issue and how old the mac is
#4335 [19:31] <Ketsueki> mmm Good luck PiXLaT3D
#4336 [19:31] <frogcamper> DopeGhoti: I installed some patcher and hit Patch, and now Minecraft is stuck on the Updating Minecraft sceen whenever I try to start it.
#4337 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> since it's old enough to be running 10.5, they may charge for it, or they may be nice. They have a lot of discretion
#4338 [19:31] <frogcamper> Can you help?
#4339 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> ??> frogcamper win/reinst
#4340 [19:31] <VoxelHead> frogcamper: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4341 [19:31] <VoxelHead> frogcamper: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4342 [19:31] <frogcamper> ohh my god....
#4343 [19:32] <frogcamper> what if i dont want to...?
#4344 [19:32] <PiXLaT3D> :|]
#4345 [19:32] <Ketsueki> frogcamper: chances are you have to
#4346 [19:32] <frogcamper> grr
#4347 [19:32] <Ketsueki> frogcamper: it would ask yes/no to update if it were a working copy
#4348 [19:32] <PiXLaT3D> I wonder If My mom didnt completely finish installing
#4349 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> frogcamper - Comes with the territory of using mods.
#4350 [19:33] <frogcamper> frogcamper is not a happy camper...
#4351 [19:33] <frogcamper> dang it
#4352 [19:33] <Ketsueki> frogcamper: if you have a backup copy of the //big// minecraft.jar file (which you'd know where to find if you were doing mods) then you can try putting that back in to place instead (copy it back)
#4353 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> you'll be happier if you play vanilla (:
#4354 [19:33] * GreyVulpine agrees with DopeGhoti
#4354 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Haven’t had time to play around with 1.7 since it came out
#4355 [19:34] <frogcamper> i hate using DokuCraft and having all the water say "Use the patcher, noob"
#4356 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> so.. don't use DokuCrafy; use Vanilla
#4357 [19:34] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: actually I use Ritsu's, HD texture, conv. inv., and a local material map thing (helps a lot with building) as mods.
#4358 [19:34] <PiXLaT3D> DUH, frogcamper
#4359 [19:34] <frogcamper> vanilla makes me mad, its too modern
#4360 [19:35] <PiXLaT3D> i used Garudoku
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#4362 [19:35] <PiXLaT3D> or whatever its called
#4363 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> Ketsueki: All the architecture on my server is done legitimately, with manually-mined minerals.
#4364 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> it's more satisfying that way, at least for us
#4365 [19:35] <frogcamper> i mean, its the age of swords and bows!
#4366 [19:35] <mulletor> fatal error occured 4 nulll
#4367 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> frogcamper: no one is forcing you to use powered rails if you don't want to.
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#4369 [19:35] <frogcamper> why is the stuff so modern looking?
#4370 [19:35] <mulletor> i login to minecraft and
#4371 [19:36] <mulletor> click update
#4372 [19:36] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: I might do that when things stabalise; but honestly I play for /fun/, and grinding away though that stuff just isn't usually worth the effort. Though when I get sick of that I might switch.
#4373 [19:36] <mulletor> that is what happens
#4374 [19:36] <frogcamper> i jsut dont understand why Notch didnt stick with the old graphics, they were great
#4375 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> ??> mulletor win/reinst
#4376 [19:36] <VoxelHead> mulletor: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4377 [19:36] <VoxelHead> mulletor: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4378 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> Ketsueki: http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com That monorail was build _by hand_ and it was actually a> very fun and b> a use for all that cobble (:
#4379 [19:37] <Ketsueki> frogcamper: do you believe in booster rails?
#4380 [19:37] <PiXLaT3D> UGHGUGHGUHGUHGUHGUGHUGH IT ALWAYS SAYS FAILED TO LAUCH WHEN I TRY TO UPDATE, AND GOES TO BLACK SCREEN WHEN I DONT EVEN UPDATE WTFWTFWTFWTFW
#4381 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> s/build/built/
#4382 [19:37] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: Yeah I did do that with my first set of rail lines...
#4383 [19:37] <frogcamper> no, minecarts are almost useless, jsut walk
#4384 [19:37] <Ketsueki> It was fun doing it for about 12 chunks.
#4385 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> Ketsueki: we build it before there were powered rails, and finished converting it to use powerrails a while ago. (:
#4386 [19:38] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: mine was built with powered rails and creeper explosion protection in mind.
#4387 [19:38] <frogcamper> hmm, i feel like making a giant castle
#4388 [19:38] <frogcamper> bye guys
#4389 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> why are my fingers unable to conjugate 'build' into 'built' today? :p
#4390 [19:38] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: now I build underground.
#4391 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> Ketsueki: we ahve a subway too, but slimes.
#4392 [19:38] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: not that low
#4393 [19:39] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: I try to keep the rail at about 50+ in case Notch turns on a progressive light requirement thing again.
#4394 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> but that's the best place for a subway- you get to cruise by meter-thick windows facing magma (:
#4395 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> Magmalighting is the best lighting (:
#4396 [19:39] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: Now /that/ is adventurous... when I dug that low I hadn't yet learned about buckets
#4397 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> Ketsueki: I'll try to put up some screens later on (:
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#4399 [19:40] <cornelius> it says fatal error occured 4 null
#4400 [19:40] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: am I the only one that wants re-enforced glass? (ex, as hard as stone?)
#4401 [19:40] <PiXLaT3D> who is the creator of minecraft
#4402 [19:40] <Ketsueki> cornelius: windows? then this.
#4403 [19:41] <cornelius> everytime i log in or try to update
#4404 [19:41] <Ketsueki> ??> cornelius win/reinst
#4405 [19:41] <VoxelHead> cornelius: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4406 [19:41] <VoxelHead> cornelius: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4407 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> Ketsueki: coming soon: transparent aluminium!
#4408 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> (:
#4409 [19:41] <cornelius> what is the save directpry
#4410 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> PiXLaT3D: http://www,mojang.com/
#4411 [19:41] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: yeah that'd be nice... but honestly we can make bulletproof glass IRL, why not in minecraft?
#4412 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> cornelius: follow those directions; you'll know it when you see it.
#4413 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> Ketsueki: it's not glass IRL (:
#4414 [19:42] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: you mean http://www.mojang.com/
#4415 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> and we don't have forges that will do petroleum polymers yet
#4416 [19:42] <Ketsueki> DopeGhoti: true it has layered plastic. However we also have glass with a metal mesh in it.
#4417 [19:42] * mib_dzb1k5 [mib_dzb1k5@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4418 [19:42] <cornelius> there is a bins folder and lastlogin
#4419 [19:42] <mib_dzb1k5> hello
#4420 [19:42] <mib_ilc17w> whats a good website to get mods and texture packs from?
#4421 [19:42] <cornelius> so what am i supposed to delete
#4422 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> cornelius: everything.
#4423 [19:42] <Ketsueki> cornelius: you don't have a saves folder to keep; it seems.
#4424 [19:43] <mib_dzb1k5> ok so i can connect to other servers but i cant connect to my friends
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#4426 [19:43] <cornelius> it says the folder is empty now
#4427 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> mib_dzb1k5: then your friend needs to learn how to set up a server.
#4428 [19:43] <Ketsueki> mib_ilc17w: try reading about them on the minecraftwiki.net
#4429 [19:43] <mib_dzb1k5> ok
#4430 [19:43] <Ketsueki> mib_ilc17w: mind telling us the address of said server? Or is it private?
#4431 [19:43] <Ketsueki> er mib_dzb1k5 that is.
#4432 [19:44] <mib_dzb1k5> private sorry
#4433 [19:44] <cornelius> the folder is empty now
#4434 [19:44] <Ketsueki> K, then you can't use !test (serverinfo)
#4435 [19:44] <Ketsueki> cornelius: try starting the minecraft launcher again
#4436 [19:44] <mib_dzb1k5> i know it works though cause my other friend john is on it with him
#4437 [19:44] <cornelius> the downloaded one, or the in browser
#4438 [19:44] <Ketsueki> mib_ilc17w: is your other friend in a different home?
#4439 [19:44] <Ketsueki> cornelius: the downloaded one
#4440 [19:45] <mib_dzb1k5> yes
#4441 [19:45] <Ketsueki> what's that geeks.se or whatever it was server? The test one?
#4442 [19:45] <cornelius> okay do i login or try the force update?
#4443 [19:45] <Ketsueki> cornelius: try logging in; we already forced update
#4444 [19:45] <PiXLaT3D> DopeGhoti, GreyVulpine, VoxelHead, cornelius, Ketsueki, mib_dzb1k5, mib_ilc17w, MINECRAFT IS COMING TO F****** XBOX 360!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
#4445 [19:46] <cornelius> it said fatal error occured 4 null
#4446 [19:46] <PiXLaT3D> XBOX I TELL YOU!
#4447 [19:46] * mib_u8dhvn [mib_u8dhvn@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4448 [19:46] <Ketsueki> cornelius: did the news show up in the launcher?
#4449 [19:46] <cornelius> what news?
#4450 [19:46] <Ketsueki> cornelius: eg, info about minecraft 1.7.2 etc?
#4451 [19:46] <cornelius> oh sorry. yes
#4452 [19:47] <Ketsueki> hum...
#4453 [19:47] <Ketsueki> does your windows username contain a !
#4454 [19:47] <cornelius> no.
#4455 [19:47] <mib_u8dhvn> could someone help me
#4456 [19:47] <mib_ilc17w> yea iand in november its the full game!!!!
#4457 [19:48] <Ketsueki> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBkQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D5GbufVcWkJA&ei=mlwOTuy-BuzYiAKv2OjZCA&usg=AFQjCNG6xS9_EE59lYGrYzdPMEn0T37nmw << cornelius that seems to be a howto guide for fixing this
#4458 [19:48] * mib_jg1ctb [mib_jg1ctb@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4459 [19:48] <mib_ilc17w> BUT I THINK MINECARFT IS ONLY GONNA BE ON XOBOX 360 KINECT!
#4460 [19:48] <cornelius> alright i'll be back in a minute thank you .
#4461 [19:48] <mib_jg1ctb> my web browser says minecraft crashed, please help
#4462 [19:48] <mib_u8dhvn> i need to know why i bought premium 2 days ago and im still regular
#4463 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> mib_u8dhvn: what is your account name?
#4464 [19:49] <mib_u8dhvn> darklord05
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#4466 [19:50] <cornelius> i do not have a second computer
#4467 [19:50] <cornelius> Ketsueki
#4468 [19:50] <cornelius> what do i do niw
#4469 [19:50] <cornelius> now*
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#4471 [19:51] <cornelius> the tutorial will ont work
#4472 [19:51] <PiXLaT3D> mib_ilc17w, why would it b 4 kinect
#4473 [19:51] <Dan> Hello I have an issue
#4474 [19:51] <Dan> I forgot my minecraft password and email
#4475 [19:51] <Dan> what do i do
#4476 [19:51] <PiXLaT3D> Dan.... fail
#4477 [19:51] <Dan> PiXLaT3D: please stop
#4478 [19:51] <cornelius> dope ghoti
#4479 [19:52] * huddler [huddler@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4480 [19:52] <Ketsueki> ??> Dan accounts
#4481 [19:52] <VoxelHead> Dan: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#4482 [19:52] <cornelius> could you help
#4483 [19:52] <Dan> I have the paypal
#4484 [19:52] <mib_jg1ctb> what am I supposed to do about the game saying it crashed
#4485 [19:52] <Dan> I have the paypal
#4486 [19:52] <Dan> I have the paypal
#4487 [19:52] <huddler> hello?
#4488 [19:52] <Dan> but tahts it
#4489 [19:52] <cornelius> fatal error occured 4 null
#4490 [19:52] <PiXLaT3D> Dan,,, we get it
#4491 [19:52] <huddler> u need help with minecraft
#4492 [19:52] <Dan> PiXLaT3D: if I wanted to hear you i'd ask
#4493 [19:52] <huddler> i mean i do
#4494 [19:52] <Dan> but i didn't
#4495 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Dan - http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#4496 [19:53] <huddler> i have error 7 what is it?
#4497 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> try using the password recover from there Dan
#4498 [19:53] <Dan> I
#4499 [19:53] <Dan> don't
#4500 [19:53] <Dan> don't
#4501 [19:53] <mib_jg1ctb> anyone feel like helping me,
#4502 [19:53] <Dan> have an email
#4503 [19:53] <Dan> Don't not do DON'T
#4504 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Then, how about just the username?
#4505 [19:53] <Dan> Duffles
#4506 [19:53] <mib_jg1ctb> what do I do about the first screen saying it crashed, even before I get to the actual game
#4507 [19:53] <PiXLaT3D> mib_jg1ctb - what do you need
#4508 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Put just the username into http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
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#4510 [19:54] <guacamole> hello
#4511 [19:54] <mib_u8dhvn> can someon help me
#4512 [19:54] <PiXLaT3D> sure
#4513 [19:54] <Dan> I
#4514 [19:54] <Dan> do
#4515 [19:54] <Dan> not
#4516 [19:54] <mib_jg1ctb> when I open the play in browser screen it says the game crashed
#4517 [19:54] <Dan> have
#4518 [19:54] <guacamole> i need some help
#4519 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Dan - Stop spamming, or you will be kicked
#4520 [19:54] <Dan> I don't have an email
#4521 [19:54] <Dan> I just don't
#4522 [19:54] <mib_jg1ctb> and to email the text on the screen but I cant even copy it
#4523 [19:54] <Dan> don't tryt that
#4524 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Dan - Did you register for an account? If you did, then your account had an email registered to it
#4525 [19:55] <PiXLaT3D> Is your java working, mib_jg1ctb
#4526 [19:55] <Ketsueki> Dan: can you please try to consolidate your thoughts in to a whole line.
#4527 [19:55] <Dan> GreyVulpine: I don't REMEMEMREMNEMHGMEBMEM the email
#4528 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Dan - That’s not our fault then
#4529 [19:55] <mib_jg1ctb> ya, and it opens on another computer in the house
#4530 [19:55] <Ketsueki> Dan: do you remember a small list of possible emails?
#4531 [19:55] <PiXLaT3D> guacamole, whats up
#4532 [19:55] <mib_jg1ctb> but i need it open on this computer
#4533 [19:55] <Dan> I have the paypal transaction
#4534 [19:55] <Dan> CAN THAT DO A THING?
#4535 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> No
#4536 [19:56] <guacamole> it says minecraft crashed
#4537 [19:56] <Ketsueki> Dan: your paypal is associated with an email; did you maybe use that one?
#4538 [19:56] <Dan> No
#4539 [19:56] <Dan> I just checked
#4540 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - Please copy the contents of that error report, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#4541 [19:56] <Dan> it didn't can't hasn't
#4542 [19:56] <PiXLaT3D> guacamole: does it say Failed to launch'
#4543 [19:56] <Ketsueki> Dan: Try your other's one by one from most to least likely; waiting a few min between each to check the mail.
#4544 [19:56] <guacamole> whats URL?
#4545 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> guacamole - The address
#4546 [19:57] <guacamole> ok
#4547 [19:57] <Ketsueki> ??> GreyVulpine pastebin
#4548 [19:57] <Dan> IT
#4549 [19:57] <VoxelHead> GreyVulpine: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you do, and we can see what you have pasted.
#4550 [19:57] <Dan> DOESN'T WORK
#4551 [19:57] <Ketsueki> er x.x
#4552 [19:57] <Dan> I'VE TRIED FOR 3 DAYS
#4553 [19:57] <Dan> THREE
#4554 [19:57] <Dan> not 5 seconds
#4555 [19:57] <Dan> 3
#4556 [19:57] <mib_jg1ctb> i'm not able to copy and paste the screen at all
#4557 [19:57] <Ketsueki> Dan: You may have locked your self out then. Please try contacting ...
#4558 [19:58] <Ketsueki> Oh GD Minecraft.com is down again; BW limit exceeded
#4559 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Uh
#4560 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.net is the official site
#4561 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.com is an imposter
#4562 [19:58] <mib_u8dhvn> i need help
#4563 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> sait
#4564 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> wait
#4565 [19:59] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: really? thanks I just typed in what made since since I am not currently where I have bookmarks.
#4566 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Ketsueki - Yes
#4567 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> there's a .com impostor now? f[bleep]k.
#4568 [19:59] <mib_u8dhvn> i need help
#4569 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Has been a minecraft.com for a while now
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#4571 [20:00] <Dan> Oh come on
#4572 [20:00] <Dan> I have forgotten my email and password PERMINTATLEY they will NEVER be back. I do have the PAYPAL however is there a way to get the PASSWORD from the PAYPAL?
#4573 [20:01] <Zixt> You could probably contact them with the transaction ID and they may be able to change it for you
#4574 [20:01] <Dan> contact who
#4575 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Dan - Minecraft.net/support
#4576 [20:02] <mib_u8dhvn> dopeghoti help please
#4577 [20:02] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: I just hit that; I can't find any way of even filing enough of a ticket to properly get escilated to a level of support that might handle such issues.
#4578 [20:02] <IceGuest_75> i wonder if these specs will run a decent server 40Gb Disk 4096mb Ram 2048MHz Cpu 600Gb Bandwidth
#4579 [20:02] <IceGuest_75> going to buy me a vps
#4580 [20:03] <Dan> It's not there GreyVulpine
#4581 [20:03] <IceGuest_75> hmm there is no way to change my name lol
#4582 [20:03] <Ketsueki> IceGuest_75: looks ok, but your bandwidth might be a little tight if you really want that much ram.
#4583 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> IceGuest_75 - No
#4584 [20:03] <IceGuest_75> /nick aint working
#4585 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> er, /nick should work
#4586 [20:03] <mib_u8dhvn> HELP PLEASE!!!!
#4587 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> IceGuest_75 - Try /parting #minecraft
#4588 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Then /nick
#4589 [20:03] <Dan> It's not there GreyVulpine
#4590 [20:03] <inv0lt> there it wouldnt let me change it for #minecraft
#4591 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Dan - What’s not there?
#4592 [20:04] <Dan> Why does everyone here lie?
#4593 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Dan - easy, what’s not there?
#4594 [20:04] <inv0lt> had to leave that channel change nick anyways
#4595 [20:04] <Dan> GreyVulpine: the option to change the transaction ID
#4596 [20:04] <Dan> or contact them with it
#4597 [20:04] <inv0lt> so use less ram and more bandwidth
#4598 [20:04] <Dan> It's just not there ever forever
#4599 [20:04] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: the support page you linked will not help Dan
#4600 [20:04] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: I was there, they don't cover this case, and don't provide a generic 'my case isn't covered' case.
#4601 [20:04] <mib_u8dhvn> HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#4602 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Try a Account -> hacked
#4603 [20:05] <Dan> Okay
#4604 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_u8dhvn patience
#4605 [20:05] <VoxelHead> mib_u8dhvn: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#4606 [20:05] <VoxelHead> mib_u8dhvn: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#4607 [20:05] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: hum... that might actually work.
#4608 [20:05] <inv0lt> 3072Mb ram 1800GB Bandwidth is that better
#4609 [20:06] <Ketsueki> inv0lt: That sounds more reasonable... but I'm not actually sure since I haven't run a server that large before my self.
#4610 [20:06] <inv0lt> but is the cpu good enough
#4611 [20:06] <inv0lt> thats what gets me
#4612 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> The CPU should be enough. With minecraft server, it’s RAM and bandwidth that’ll get you
#4613 [20:07] <Ketsueki> mib_u8dhvn: http://www.minecraft.net/support/ Account - Premium; last option "I bought a premium account, but my account is still regular"
#4614 [20:07] <inv0lt> ok so i should have enough for how much players est.
#4615 [20:07] <inv0lt> about 20
#4616 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> I’d say 20-40, depending
#4617 [20:07] <mib_u8dhvn> ketsueki i did that
#4618 [20:08] <Ketsueki> http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/
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#4620 [20:08] <Ketsueki> ??> mib_u8dhvn accounts
#4621 [20:08] <VoxelHead> mib_u8dhvn: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#4622 [20:08] <inv0lt> yeah already checked there
#4623 [20:08] <Ketsueki> mib_u8dhvn: just run the checklist there and do what it tells you; there's nothing we can do.
#4624 [20:08] <inv0lt> anyways whats the est on a map size
#4625 [20:08] <inv0lt> 1gb
#4626 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> inv0lt - It’ll grow as much as your players explore
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#4628 [20:09] <mib_u8dhvn> VoxelHead i did that already
#4629 [20:09] <Ketsueki> inv0lt: however 40GB will probably be enough for a really big map
#4630 [20:09] <inv0lt> u think i can deal with 20gb disk space
#4631 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Will you be looking into backups?
#4632 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> (hint: I really recommend map backups on a regular basis)
#4633 [20:09] <Ketsueki> Might get a little tight but honestly, look in to how large your current data is and multiply that out by about 64 * number of users
#4634 [20:09] <inv0lt> yeah mostlikey i will
#4635 [20:10] <derf> just want to say thanks for the help I got here a few hours ago from greyvulpine, deleting java and installing new and updating drivers has made my son happy
#4636 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> derf - I’m glad I was able to help.
#4637 [20:10] <inv0lt> but i can always get people to donate its only 1 extra dollar for 20more gb
#4638 [20:10] <derf> Thanks to all who help all
#4639 [20:10] <Ketsueki> inv0lt: FYI, my single player world is about 50MB right now; I'd say a more realistic size is 500MB/user/backup
#4640 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> inv0lt - I would start with 20 gigs, and work up from there as need arises
#4641 [20:11] <derf> later
#4642 [20:11] <inv0lt> yeah i was thinking the same
#4643 [20:11] <inv0lt> ok now control panel should what should i use or should i use one at all
#4644 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Map sizes in your first few weeks, won’t really exceed a gig, unless your players are explore-happy
#4645 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Add in a few times that much, for regular backups..
#4646 [20:12] <inv0lt> does minecraft run good on debain?
#4647 [20:12] <inv0lt> i had problems with centos5 so i rather go with debain
#4648 [20:13] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: they also probably won't get terriably large without actual construction; since air/the most common elements already compress well due to dictionary space, and then even further contiguous material runs compress nicely too.
#4649 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> Debian’s alright. Just be aware that there may be an issue with Ipv6 addressing.
#4650 [20:14] <Ketsueki> inv0lt: If you install the sun-java6-jre thing it should be fine. You'll want the Binary drivers for your graphics card unless it's /super/ old (>5 years) though.
#4651 [20:14] <inv0lt> im not running server on computer running it on a vps
#4652 [20:14] <inv0lt> linux based
#4653 [20:14] <Ketsueki> inv0lt: Oh VPS?
#4654 [20:14] <inv0lt> yeah
#4655 [20:14] <Ketsueki> Yeah, don't worry about GPU; debian's fine, that's what mine runs on.
#4656 [20:15] <inv0lt> ok
#4657 [20:16] <inv0lt> 20gb disk space 3584 mb ram 2048 MHz cpu 1.5tb bandwidth
#4658 [20:16] <inv0lt> going to buy that real quicki
#4659 [20:16] <inv0lt> that all good enough
#4660 [20:16] <Ketsueki> inv0lt: make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list contains main contrib non-free
#4661 [20:16] <Ketsueki> inv0lt: the non-free is (likely) needed for the sun-java6 jre
#4662 [20:17] <inv0lt> ok let me check up on it
#4663 [20:17] <Ketsueki> inv0lt: you can edit that later
#4664 [20:17] <inv0lt> ok u can
#4665 [20:17] <Ketsueki> Yeah... you edit it anytime before you try to run the minecraft.jar
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#4667 [20:17] <inv0lt> alright let me go ahead and buy this real quick
#4668 [20:18] <Ketsueki> well, just before trying to run apt-get install sun-java6-jre
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#4670 [20:18] <onix> i need help. i cannot log on
#4671 [20:18] <Ketsueki> inv0lt: Oh also, read the debian manual for adduser and making an isolated user to run Minecraft as.
#4672 [20:18] <inv0lt> yeah never run as root
#4673 [20:18] <onix> minecraft.exe won't run
#4674 [20:18] <onix> can anyone help?
#4675 [20:19] <Ketsueki> inv0lt: well there are exceptions to that; some things //require// root to run... but those are usually things like backup scripts for whole systems.
#4676 [20:19] <Ketsueki> onix: I'm about to drive home actually...
#4677 [20:19] <Ketsueki> ??> onix win/reinst
#4678 [20:19] <VoxelHead> onix: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4679 [20:19] <VoxelHead> onix: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4680 [20:19] <Ketsueki> try that though
#4681 [20:21] <inv0lt> need a name for my server lol should of thought about that awhile back
#4682 [20:21] <inv0lt> anyways someone throw a name out
#4683 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> Really, up to you.
#4684 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> For a list of server you can pull inspiration from, check these sites:
#4685 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#4686 [20:22] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#4687 [20:22] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#4688 [20:22] * ONLYpureOWNAGE [ONLYpureOWNAGE@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4689 [20:22] <ONLYpureOWNAGE> Can anyone help me with a problem i got ??
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#4692 [20:26] <Aaronyo> im trying to play online multiplayer classic and every time an error message comes up in red letters
#4693 [20:28] <Aaronyo> the message says:an error occured while loading the applet. please contact support to resolve this issue.fatal error occured (7). com.mojang.minecraft.minecraftapplet
#4694 [20:28] <Aaronyo> what do i do?
#4695 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> What browser are you using, what operating system are you on?
#4696 [20:29] <inv0lt> ok i bought it
#4697 [20:30] <ONLYpureOWNAGE> I have reinstalled windows, but now i downloaded the original minecraft .exe it wont let me log in to minecraft.net :/
#4698 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> ONLYpureOWNAGE - Using windows?
#4699 [20:31] <ONLYpureOWNAGE> Yeah winodws vista
#4700 [20:31] <ONLYpureOWNAGE> ive upgraded
#4701 [20:31] <inv0lt> awww vista
#4702 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> ONLYpureOWNAGE - does your windows username have a ! mark in it?
#4703 [20:31] <ONLYpureOWNAGE> Nope
#4704 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> ONLYpureOWNAGE - Check your system time and date, make sure it’s correct?
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#4707 [20:32] <inv0lt> ok greyvulpin do u support mcadmin thing or is there a better panel to control my server
#4708 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> McMyadmin
#4709 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> MCadmin has a... reputation
#4710 [20:33] <Graversimen> bukkit is best
#4711 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> panel, not server mod
#4712 [20:33] <inv0lt> well do they cost or what
#4713 [20:33] <Graversimen> :P
#4714 [20:33] <inv0lt> cause im broke now lol
#4715 [20:33] <ONLYpureOWNAGE> Ahh that might be why then :/ but whne i try to connect the time to microsofts site it wont work either :/
#4716 [20:33] <Graversimen> :O
#4717 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> McMyadmin is a good panel, that does cost money
#4718 [20:33] <inv0lt> :(
#4719 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> ONLYpureOWNAGE - Try manually setting it
#4720 [20:34] <kermi> can you help me with something
#4721 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> inv0lt - I wouldn’t wish Mcadmin on my enemy...
#4722 [20:34] <inv0lt> is there a free version of it and is it pretty secure
#4723 [20:34] <inv0lt> thats what i want to know
#4724 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> With MCMyAdmin, I believe there is
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#4726 [20:34] <inv0lt> ok
#4727 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Just has nagware is all
#4728 [20:34] <Delavor> Hello
#4729 [20:35] <Delavor> Minecraft Client is compatible with ubuntu x64?
#4730 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#4731 [20:35] <Delavor> On java x64?
#4732 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> Also yes
#4733 [20:35] <kermi> i need help to see if i bought the game or not, if i downloaded it right and how to play the game om multiplayer
#4734 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> kermi - What’s your minecraft username?
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#4736 [20:37] <kermi> JellylessToast
#4737 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> !paid JellylessToast
#4738 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Doesn’t seem to be premium
#4739 [20:37] <Aaronyo> im using internet explorer
#4740 [20:37] <EntityReborn> !paid __import__
#4741 [20:37] <EntityReborn> \o/
#4742 [20:37] <EntityReborn> What URL tests this?
#4743 [20:38] <EntityReborn> I mean, what URL is the bot checking?
#4744 [20:38] <ONLYpureOWNAGE> THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH GREYVULPINE FOR YOUR HELP :D
#4745 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=
#4746 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Glad to help
#4747 [20:38] <EntityReborn> ah
#4748 [20:38] <EntityReborn> Thanks
#4749 [20:38] <Aaronyo> is that for me?
#4750 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> No
#4751 [20:38] <Aaronyo> ok so what do i do?
#4752 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Aaronyo - I asked what operating system you were using, and what browser you used..
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#4754 [20:39] <kermi> well i entered all the credit info and it said thank you for purchesing and i cant downlaod it and im seriously getting very mad
#4755 [20:39] <ONLYpureOWNAGE> Now i can get my minecraft addiction and finish off my youtube series my subs have been waiting for the last episode
#4756 [20:39] <inv0lt> got to wait an hour lol
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#4758 [20:40] <Aaronyo> i use windows and internet explorer
#4759 [20:40] <Aaronyo> windows xp
#4760 [20:40] <inv0lt> stick with xp :)
#4761 [20:40] <Aaronyo> i tried it on firefox but its no different
#4762 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Aaronyo - Try going to your start menu, go to your run command. There, type in: %temp%
#4763 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Find any folders that are named “minecraft.net” or “www.minecraft.net” and delete them
#4764 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Then try minecraft again
#4765 [20:41] <Aaronyo> ok
#4766 [20:41] <Migglepuff> Hi all, my server has gotten really slow lately. It takes about 30s to start up, and once it has started up it does not reply to commands typed into the console and players time out when trying to log in. Any ideas why it could be so slow so suddenly?
#4767 [20:41] <Aaronyo> alright i deleted it now im trying it again
#4768 [20:42] <Aaronyo> it worked thanks so much
#4769 [20:42] * GreyVulpine nods
#4769 [20:42] <kermi> any help please on what to do
#4770 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> kermi - It could take several hours for the payment to be processed
#4771 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> kermi - If it has been a day or longer, I’d check your credit card/financial institution, see if money was actually taken out
#4772 [20:44] <___import__> Migglepuff, have you updated your server?
#4773 [20:44] <Migglepuff> ___import__: it's 1.7.2
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#4775 [20:44] <kermi> if it could take several hours how do i know it got paid for
#4776 [20:44] <Aaronyo> oh and any advice on how to find a server in classic that changed the name?
#4777 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> kermi - Check your credit card or whatever you used to pay for it. See if money was sent to/billed by “Mojang AB”
#4778 [20:45] <Guest> Hi, how can I start a game in creative mode?
#4779 [20:45] <kermi> k thanks ill try that
#4780 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Guest - use the classic client, found on the website at www.minecraft.net
#4781 [20:46] <Aaronyo> how do i find a server if they changed the name? in classic multiplayer?
#4782 [20:47] <Guest> Thanks, I will give it a try @GreyVulpine
#4783 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Aaronyo - That’s.. a little tough. Any way to contact the server admin(s)? Got a website or forum for the server?
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#4785 [20:50] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, I administer two servers :D
#4786 [20:50] <Aaronyo> awesome
#4787 [20:50] <Aaronyo> any mods?
#4788 [20:50] * GreyVulpine gives TheNytangel a gold star
#4788 [20:50] <TheNytangel> :D:D:D
#4789 [20:50] <inv0lt> lol
#4790 [20:50] <TheNytangel> Aaronyo, bukkit
#4791 [20:51] <TheNytangel> Aaronyo, and then some Bukkit plugins
#4792 [20:51] <Aaronyo> what does that do
#4793 [20:51] <TheNytangel> Depends on the plugin
#4794 [20:51] <TheNytangel> Omg a Shadow Bed..
#4795 [20:51] <TheNytangel> :o
#4796 [20:52] <inv0lt> i hope i run everything correctly
#4797 [20:52] <inv0lt> shall find out when server starts up
#4798 [20:52] <Aaronyo> but why do i need a plugin in the first place
#4799 [20:52] <TheNytangel> Aaronyo.. what?
#4800 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Aaronyo’s not using beta
#4801 [20:54] <inv0lt> arhh looks like i need to buy mcmyadmin lol
#4802 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Drats
#4803 [20:55] <inv0lt> since i won 50bucks on a scratch off ticket i will get me another cc
#4804 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> don't get a prepaid card if you mean to buy Minecraft with it, inv0lt.
#4805 [20:56] <inv0lt> nah already gots minecraft
#4806 [20:56] <Aaronyo> yea im using classic multiplayer and i need to find my server which the name got changed while i was gone and i dont know the new name of it
#4807 [20:57] <inv0lt> i love prepaid cc's though since i have no credit they help out alot
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#4809 [20:57] <Sam> Can someone please help me?
#4810 [20:58] <Sam> Please? :(
#4811 [20:58] <inv0lt> with
#4812 [20:58] <TheNytangel> ??> Sam ask
#4813 [20:58] <VoxelHead> Sam: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4814 [20:58] <VoxelHead> Sam: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4815 [20:58] <Sam> Okay
#4816 [20:58] <Sam> I was trying to install a mod "Better Than Wolves" and i did it all right, but when i open minecraft after i log in it goes black
#4817 [20:59] <TheNytangel> Sam, delete the meta-inf folder?
#4818 [20:59] <Sam> Done that
#4819 [20:59] <TheNytangel> Are you sure?
#4820 [20:59] <Sam> Certain
#4821 [20:59] <TheNytangel> Can you go check?
#4822 [20:59] <TheNytangel> :P
#4823 [21:00] <Sam> Yup no meta-inf
#4824 [21:00] <Sam> Deleted
#4825 [21:00] <TheNytangel> Using windows?
#4826 [21:01] <Sam> Windows 7
#4827 [21:01] <TheNytangel> ??> Sam win/reinst
#4828 [21:01] <VoxelHead> Sam: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4829 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Sam - As far as I can see, “Better Than Wolves” isn’t updated for 1.7
#4830 [21:01] <VoxelHead> Sam: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#4832 [21:01] <TheNytangel> And what GreyVulpine said
#4833 [21:01] <Sam> 1 at a time D:
#4834 [21:01] <TheNytangel> So, after you reinstall minecraft, don't put in the mod again until it is updated
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#4836 [21:02] <TheNytangel> ??>> Sam win/reinst
#4837 [21:02] <TheNytangel> >.>
#4838 [21:02] <Sam> Oops got to go ):
#4839 [21:02] <Sam> Sorry thanks anyway
#4840 [21:02] <Sam> ):
#4841 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the mod isn’t updated for 1.7 yet
#4842 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Oh.
#4843 [21:03] <TheNytangel> *sigh*
#4844 [21:03] <TheNytangel> Sometimes I just need to breath in more than normal..
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#4846 [21:05] <Rampantlion513> Hello?
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#4848 [21:06] <Rampantlion513> nevermind.it fixed.
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#4850 [21:08] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine,
#4851 [21:09] <TheNytangel> Did you hear about that one law about not being able to upload media (movies, games, tv shows, etc.) to youtube?
#4852 [21:09] <inv0lt> should of bought the allaccessgift card not these stupid vanillagift cards
#4853 [21:10] <inv0lt> vanillla cards u cant link ur name/address on allaccessgift u can
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#4855 [21:11] <Graversimen> hi
#4856 [21:11] <Graversimen> i need help actually
#4857 [21:11] <TheNytangel> ??>> Graversimen ask
#4858 [21:11] <Graversimen> -.-
#4859 [21:11] <TheNytangel> :P
#4860 [21:11] <Graversimen> i say it to get attention
#4861 [21:11] <Graversimen> so u listen to me :P
#4862 [21:11] <TheNytangel> Well, it says to just ask
#4863 [21:12] <Graversimen> ??>> TheNytangel answer
#4864 [21:12] <Graversimen> xD
#4865 [21:12] <TheNytangel> Um..
#4866 [21:12] <Graversimen> ok
#4867 [21:12] <Graversimen> to my problem :P
#4868 [21:12] <TheNytangel> What?
#4869 [21:12] <Graversimen> its not often i got problems anyway
#4870 [21:12] <Graversimen> how can i start minecraft with more ram
#4871 [21:13] <Graversimen> when it says it couldnt reserve enough space ??
#4872 [21:13] <xolotl> Graversimen: Use the .jar instead of .exe, and adjust -Xmx and -Xms to suit
#4873 [21:13] <Graversimen> when i got 6 ram installed
#4874 [21:13] <xolotl> Graversimen: -Xmx defines the max amount of memory it'll use, -Xms is how much it allocates initially
#4875 [21:13] <Graversimen> when it says it couldnt reserve enough space ??
#4876 [21:14] <Graversimen> how can i open more space ? XD
#4877 [21:14] <TheNytangel> He just told you how..
#4878 [21:14] <TheNytangel> Graversimen, close programs
#4879 [21:14] <Graversimen> i did that days ago
#4880 [21:14] <Graversimen> and i dont haveANY programs on
#4881 [21:14] <TheNytangel> What are you using to talk to us?
#4882 [21:14] <xolotl> Graversimen: So what did you adjust them to?
#4883 [21:15] <Graversimen> 2048
#4884 [21:15] <Graversimen> both :P
#4885 [21:15] <xolotl> k. Running any mods?
#4886 [21:15] <Graversimen> yeah
#4887 [21:15] <Graversimen> just 2 (3)
#4888 [21:15] <Graversimen> modloader
#4889 [21:15] <Graversimen> zombe
#4890 [21:15] <Graversimen> tmi
#4891 [21:15] <Graversimen> :D
#4892 [21:15] <Graversimen> but i tried without the mods too
#4893 [21:15] <xolotl> Graversimen: It's possible that's part of the problem; could see if it does it without.
#4894 [21:16] <Graversimen> what did i just say
#4895 [21:16] <Graversimen> lol
#4896 [21:16] <xolotl> Yeah yeah, your message came through right as I was hitting enter
#4897 [21:16] <Graversimen> xD
#4898 [21:17] <Harley> hey what do i type to upgrade craftbukkit too 953
#4899 [21:18] <xolotl> Harley: Try in #bukkit
#4900 [21:18] <Harley> im banned
#4901 [21:19] <xolotl> Harley: Well, we don't really provide Bukkit support in here, sorry
#4902 [21:19] <TheNytangel> Harley, you need to download the new version
#4903 [21:19] <Graversimen> mibbit is banned
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#4905 [21:19] <Graversimen> :P
#4906 [21:19] <Delavor> Hello
#4907 [21:19] <xolotl> Aha
#4908 [21:19] <Harley> has the new minecraft update fixed the problem on servers where pistons crash your server
#4909 [21:19] <xolotl> Harley: Yeah, use a real IRC client, then
#4910 [21:19] <Delavor> Harley, yep but there is a problem with dupe items :P
#4911 [21:19] <Delavor> dupe exploit
#4912 [21:19] <Harley> whats dupe?
#4913 [21:20] <Delavor> "Minecraft 1.7.2 contains a dupe exploit that will ruin your economy or could create other issues. We strongly recommend waiting for a fix from either Mojang or ourselves before updating."
#4914 [21:20] <Delavor> from bukkit.org
#4915 [21:21] <Harley> ok
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#4917 [21:23] <Harley> so pistons will no longer crash the server
#4918 [21:26] <Harley> when will skylands be interduced
#4919 [21:26] <Delavor> Anybody know what's ubuntu i must choose (32bit or 64bit) if i have Core2Duo 2x2.0Ghz, 3GB DDR2?
#4920 [21:26] <Delavor> it's laptop
#4921 [21:26] <xolotl> Harley: He hasn't announced anything about skylands timeline, that I'm aware of
#4922 [21:27] <xolotl> Delavor: core2duos should be 64-bit
#4923 [21:27] <Harley> alls i know its already in the game
#4924 [21:27] <Delavor> xolotl, yeah but i have only 3GB DDR2
#4925 [21:27] <Harley> i know some mobs he should add there giant man eating chickens
#4926 [21:30] <Harley> hey you know the skyland plugin from bukkit does it crash your server?
#4927 [21:30] <xolotl> Harley: "in a bukkit plugin" != "alread in the game"
#4928 [21:30] <xolotl> Delavor: Sure, but you've got a 64-bit processor
#4929 [21:30] <Harley> that don't answer my question
#4930 [21:31] <Harley> its a simple yes or no anwser
#4931 [21:31] <xolotl> Delavor: It probably wouldn't hurt anything to install the 32-bit version, but there's also little reason not to install the 64-bit version
#4932 [21:31] <xolotl> Harley: I, um, wasn't attempting to answer your question, because I don't know.
#4933 [21:31] <xolotl> Just saying that something available in a Bukkit plugin isn't "in the game"
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#4936 [21:35] <TheNytangel> My god.. I just got scared half to death
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#4939 [21:36] <mib_ok68oj> I have crashing problems and tryed fixing and hasent worked!
#4940 [21:36] <mib_ok68oj> here is the java error message
#4941 [21:36] <mib_ok68oj> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6984e03a, pid=9080, tid=8636 # # JRE version: 6.0_26-b03 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.1-b02 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [nvoglv32.dll+0x34e03a] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
#4942 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> mib_ok68oj - Update your nvidia video drivers
#4943 [21:37] <Rootbeer2468> That should fix it by updating the drivers
#4944 [21:37] <Rootbeer2468> Atleast i think
#4945 [21:37] <whidgle> How do you download the single player version of the minecraft beta?
#4946 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Did you pay for minecraft?
#4947 [21:37] <mib_ok68oj> yes
#4948 [21:38] <Harley> lol probley not
#4949 [21:38] <Harley> half
#4950 [21:38] <mib_ok68oj> got a tree home
#4951 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_ok68oj - Wasn’t directed at you, you need to update your nvidia video drivers
#4952 [21:38] <Harley> the people have it don't pay i did
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#4954 [21:38] <whidgle> No
#4955 [21:38] <Harley> i paid 20 dollers
#4956 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - MInecraft is not free, you need to pay for it to play it
#4957 [21:38] <Harley> and ran my server :D
#4958 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> whidgle - Minecraft classic is free, on the site, and there’s a demo out for beta
#4959 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> ??> whidgle demo
#4960 [21:39] <VoxelHead> whidgle: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#4961 [21:39] <VoxelHead> whidgle: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#4962 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> But if you want to play beta, you’ll need to pay for a premium account
#4963 [21:39] <Rootbeer2468> Its worth the 24 dollars
#4964 [21:39] <whidgle> Some people I know told me that If you don't gt the multiplayer version you don't have to pay
#4965 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> They were wrong
#4966 [21:40] <Rootbeer2468> No.
#4967 [21:41] <whidgle> But they have it and didn't have to pay for it... And I'm fairly certain he is not a hacker.
#4968 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Also wrong
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#4970 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Only way to get the files without being a premium user, is if they pirated the game
#4971 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> That, I’ll bet money on.
#4972 [21:42] <whidgle> I dunno, maybe he bought it
#4973 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps
#4974 [21:43] <whidgle> I was gonna pay for it anyway, just not sure when
#4975 [21:44] <Rootbeer2468> You should.. Really its worth it.
#4976 [21:44] <whidgle> Alright...
#4977 [21:46] <whidgle> I'm not gonna be a minecraft addict or anything like that, just need something to pass the time
#4978 [21:46] <Rootbeer2468> BRB
#4979 [21:47] <mib_ok68oj> what if teh video drives doesnt work?
#4980 [21:47] <mib_ok68oj> sorry if updating
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#4983 [21:55] <Rootbeer2468> It sould work. if not you may wanna update your java
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#4985 [21:55] <Rootbeer2468> You have Nvidia right?
#4986 [21:56] <Rootbeer2468> ?
#4987 [21:56] <Guest74838> hello... is there any other way to get minecraft to work with out open gl drivers ?
#4988 [21:57] <Rootbeer2468> Gl drivers?
#4989 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Guest74838 - Nope
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#4991 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft runs on OpenGL, no way around it
#4992 [21:58] <Rootbeer2468> GreyVulpine What is a Gl driver?
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#4994 [21:58] <Guest74838> I guess that was short and sweet ! thanks
#4995 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> OpenGL
#4996 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Look it up
#4997 [21:58] <Rootbeer2468> Ok
#4998 [22:00] <Guest74838> thanks and good bye ....
#4999 [22:02] <Rootbeer2468> Bye
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#5006 [22:19] <Fishfish0001> I can't pay for minecraft, moneybookers returns errors each time.
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#5009 [22:20] <moorent> My game keeps crashing at world creation and I have been unable to play for weeks. Can anybody help me?
#5010 [22:21] <Ketsueki> moorent: two questions. 1) where /exactly/ in the startup process and 2) what operating system. (more follow, but these two set the direction)
#5011 [22:21] <Fishfish0001> Anyone got answers to my question? Its kind of annoying me, not sure if its something temp or unnoticed.
#5012 [22:21] <moorent> I can get to main menu but crash as soon as I try to create a world. ubunutu 11.04
#5013 [22:22] <Ketsueki> ??> Fishfish0001 accounts
#5014 [22:22] <VoxelHead> Fishfish0001: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#5015 [22:22] <moorent> I don't get the typical crash report screen but it creates log each time
#5016 [22:22] <Fishfish0001> Ah thanks.
#5017 [22:22] <Ketsueki> Fishfish0001: I highly suggest verifying your account information.
#5018 [22:22] <Fishfish0001> It said the moneybookers merchant emailw as wrong is why, not my info
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#5020 [22:23] <Ketsueki> moorent: Ok, so you can get past the Mojang screen but it crashes when you try to /create/ a new single player world?
#5021 [22:23] <moorent> yes
#5022 [22:23] <Ketsueki> ??> moorent pastebin
#5023 [22:23] <VoxelHead> moorent: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you do, and we can see what you have pasted.
#5024 [22:25] <moorent> http://mibpaste.com/XyYAtw
#5025 [22:25] <TLA> I'm having trouble running Minecraft on my Mac.
#5026 [22:25] <moorent> http://mibpaste.com/egps2T
#5027 [22:25] <moorent> had to split it into two parts
#5028 [22:25] <Ketsueki> moorent: please hit alt+f2 to get a console, and then run this in it: cat /proc/meminfo > ~/Desktop/debug.txt ; cat /proc/cpuinfo >> ~/Desktop/debug.txt ; lspci >> ~/Desktop/debug.txt ; lshw >> ~/Desktop/debug.txt In about 3-5 min it'll be done probing everything. You can edit the file to remove serial numbers from your mobo and CPU if you like. However it'll contain valuable information about your system (using more generic ...
#5029 [22:25] <TLA> When it asks for my log-in information, it says "user not premium (not downloaded)"
#5030 [22:25] <Ketsueki> ... and then nicer tools)
#5031 [22:25] <moorent> that time it crashed at the mojang screen, it usually makes it to world creation
#5032 [22:25] <TLA> But I did download it, so what could the problem be?
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#5034 [22:26] <Ketsueki> moorent: Oh nice part 2 has useful data.
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#5036 [22:29] <Ketsueki> moorent: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI << When you add the Additional Drivers what version of the fglrx / Catalyst package do you see?
#5037 [22:29] <moorent> let me check
#5038 [22:29] <Ketsueki> TLA: mind typing !paid (minecraft account name)
#5039 [22:30] <Graversimen> !paid minecraft
#5040 [22:30] <Graversimen> :D
#5041 [22:30] <TLA> Type? "!paid" before my username?
#5042 [22:30] <Graversimen> lol
#5043 [22:30] <Graversimen> yeah
#5044 [22:30] <Ketsueki> TLA: yeah just like Graversimen did, but with your username
#5045 [22:30] <Fishfish0001> !paid Fishfish0001
#5046 [22:30] <TLA> Okay
#5047 [22:30] <TLA> Thanks :)
#5048 [22:30] <Graversimen> :O
#5049 [22:30] <Fishfish0001> >.<
#5050 [22:30] <Graversimen> oh no
#5051 [22:30] <Ketsueki> Your /minecraft/ username
#5052 [22:30] <Graversimen> :P
#5053 [22:30] <Fishfish0001> I can't get the payment screen to fully process :(
#5054 [22:30] <TLA> I tried again
#5055 [22:30] <Graversimen> whats ur minecraft username ?
#5056 [22:31] <Graversimen> TLA
#5057 [22:31] <Fishfish0001> It keeps saying the merchant email is wrong, or giving me errors from oneybookers
#5058 [22:31] <moorent> version
#5059 [22:31] <TLA> But this time, it said "Login failed (Not download)"
#5060 [22:31] <Ketsueki> TLA: Yes please /stop/
#5061 [22:31] <moorent> 4.1.10665
#5062 [22:31] <TLA> It's TheLazyAthlete
#5063 [22:32] <Ketsueki> TLA: https://www.minecraft.net/profile/ << do you see your information here when you log in?
#5064 [22:32] <Ketsueki> !paid TheLazyAthlete
#5065 [22:32] <Graversimen> :O
#5066 [22:32] <Graversimen> oh no
#5067 [22:32] <Graversimen> :P
#5068 [22:32] <TLA> ...But I have
#5069 [22:32] <Ketsueki> TLA: seems to be a payment issue; did you get an email yet?
#5070 [22:32] <TLA> It said it was successful
#5071 [22:32] <Graversimen> -.-
#5072 [22:32] <Ketsueki> ??> TLA accounts
#5073 [22:32] <VoxelHead> TLA: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
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#5075 [22:32] <Ketsueki> TLA: yes, but has it been 1-3 days?
#5076 [22:32] <Graversimen> ??> TLA payment
#5077 [22:32] <VoxelHead> TLA: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#5078 [22:32] <TLA> Oh, do I need a confirmation email before I can log in?
#5079 [22:32] <VoxelHead> TLA: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#5080 [22:32] <Ketsueki> TLA: yes
#5081 [22:32] <TLA> Oh... poo
#5082 [22:32] <TLA> Okay then
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#5084 [22:33] <TLA> I'll just go to bed and hope it works in the morning
#5085 [22:33] <Graversimen> yeah :P
#5086 [22:33] <TLA> If it doesn't, should I be concerned?
#5087 [22:33] <Graversimen> it is morning here :P
#5088 [22:33] <TLA> Or would that still be normal?
#5089 [22:33] <Graversimen> 4 am
#5090 [22:33] <Graversimen> idk
#5091 [22:33] <mib_b7vkla> whenever I try to play minecraft classic, the screen goes black after it is done loading.Any ideas on how to help?
#5092 [22:33] <Ketsueki> TLA: well... check when you wake up, but be concerned if you don't see any email by noon.
#5093 [22:33] <Graversimen> im to tired
#5094 [22:33] <TLA> Okay
#5095 [22:34] <mib_b7vkla> hello?????????????????????
#5096 [22:34] <Ketsueki> TLA: if you're going to do other stuff, you might do that then check before bed.
#5097 [22:34] <Graversimen> hi
#5098 [22:34] <Ketsueki> ??> mib_b7vkla ask
#5099 [22:34] <VoxelHead> mib_b7vkla: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#5100 [22:34] <VoxelHead> mib_b7vkla: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#5101 [22:34] <TLA> Now, does the email get sent once my account is credited, or is it a confirmation link type-thing
#5102 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> The former, usually.
#5103 [22:34] <Ketsueki> TLA: you'll get one once your account is created, it should be obvious
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#5105 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> There is no confirmation link email
#5106 [22:34] <Nasin> ok
#5107 [22:35] <TLA> Okay
#5108 [22:35] <Nasin> can anyone help me?
#5109 [22:35] <moorent> ketsueki, it is version 4.1.10665
#5110 [22:35] <Graversimen> yeah
#5111 [22:35] <Graversimen> i ca
#5112 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Nasin - With?
#5113 [22:35] <Nasin> well my minecraft is really stuffed
#5114 [22:35] <Nasin> T_T
#5115 [22:35] <Ketsueki> moorent: Um...
#5116 [22:35] <Graversimen> whats the problem ?
#5117 [22:35] <TLA> Thanks for the help, everyone! :)
#5118 [22:35] <Nasin> it crashes my computer when ever i run it
#5119 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Has it worked before Nasin?
#5120 [22:35] <Nasin> and ive had minecraft since alpha
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#5122 [22:35] <Graversimen> :O
#5123 [22:36] <Graversimen> bye :P
#5124 [22:36] <Nasin> yes ive had it since alpha was first released
#5125 [22:36] <mib_b7vkla> problem: whenever I play minecraft classic, after the loading is done, the screen goes black
#5126 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Then you would know how to clear your .minecraft directory Nasin?
#5127 [22:36] <Nasin> yes i did that
#5128 [22:36] <Nasin> and nothing
#5129 [22:36] <Graversimen> irc lag's my minecraft
#5130 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Nasin - Do you get an error report?
#5131 [22:36] <Nasin> i reinstalled minecraft again
#5132 [22:36] <Ketsueki> moorent: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=fglrx&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all You /should/ see something like 8.840-ubuntu4
#5133 [22:36] <Nasin> no
#5134 [22:36] <Nasin> my computer just crashes
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#5136 [22:36] <Nasin> it goses all funny and pixeled
#5137 [22:36] <Nasin> and freezes
#5138 [22:37] * mib_l2n0v8 [mib_l2n0v8@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#5139 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Nasin - Sounds like a deeper problem than just minecraft..
#5140 [22:37] <Nasin> it happenes with nothing else
#5141 [22:37] <Nasin> and minecraft works fine on 1.6.6
#5142 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Made sure it’s not overheating?
#5143 [22:37] <Nasin> yes
#5144 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#5145 [22:37] <Nasin> its only in the 1.7 patch
#5146 [22:37] <Nasin> that it happenes
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#5148 [22:38] <hiredhessian> so i bought the game, and it says my profile isnt premium
#5149 [22:38] <hiredhessian> is that normal?
#5150 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> ??> hiredhessian payment
#5151 [22:38] <Nasin> it takes some time
#5152 [22:38] <VoxelHead> hiredhessian: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#5153 [22:38] <VoxelHead> hiredhessian: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#5154 [22:38] <mib_b7vkla> whenever I try to play minecraft classic, the screen goes black after it is done loading.Any ideas on how to help?
#5155 [22:38] <Ketsueki> mib_b7vkla: operating system?
#5156 [22:38] <b0xxy> [WARNING] prizna moved too quickly! Elapsed ticks: 1, Distance change: 16471.35832923457 - when using portals, any ideas
#5157 [22:38] <b0xxy> ?
#5158 [22:38] <mib_b7vkla> problem: whenever I play minecraft classic, after the loading is done, the screen goes black
#5159 [22:38] <mib_b7vkla> problem: whenever I play minecraft classic, after the loading is done, the screen goes black
#5160 [22:38] <mib_b7vkla> problem: whenever I play minecraft classic, after the loading is done, the screen goes black
#5161 [22:38] <hiredhessian> ok thank you :)
#5162 [22:38] <mib_b7vkla> problem: whenever I play minecraft classic, after the loading is done, the screen goes black
#5163 [22:38] <mib_b7vkla> problem: whenever I play minecraft classic, after the loading is done, the screen goes black
#5164 [22:38] <mib_b7vkla> problem: whenever I play minecraft classic, after the loading is done, the screen goes black
#5165 [22:38] <mib_b7vkla> problem: whenever I play minecraft classic, after the loading is done, the screen goes black
#5166 [22:38] <mib_b7vkla> problem: whenever I play minecraft classic, after the loading is done, the screen goes black
#5167 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> !k mib_b7vkla
#5168 [22:38] * GreyBot kicked mib_b7vkla from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:678>)
#5169 [22:38] <Nasin> so any ideas on it vulpix
#5170 [22:38] <hiredhessian> i just really wanna play haha
#5171 [22:38] <Nasin> soz
#5172 [22:38] <Nasin> vulpine
#5173 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Nasin - Give me a few to think about it
#5174 [22:39] <Nasin> alrite :)
#5175 [22:39] <Ketsueki> moorent: let me know when you find it.
#5176 [22:39] <Nasin> i really cant thank you enough for trying to help
#5177 [22:39] <Ketsueki> b0xxy: is this on your server or your local computer's world?
#5178 [22:39] <hiredhessian> so i can't play untill i get the confirmation email, correct?
#5179 [22:39] <moorent> ketsueki, I already have the newest version of the drivers, I just reinstalled via synaptic
#5180 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Nasin - Does it actually crash or forceably close your game at all?
#5181 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Nasin - Or does it just freeze?
#5182 [22:40] <b0xxy> my server
#5183 [22:40] <Ketsueki> moorent: ok, can you grab a terminal/console for me please? It'll look like a dos window but inside of your graphical desktop
#5184 [22:40] <Ketsueki> moorent: fglrxinfo
#5185 [22:40] <Nasin> no
#5186 [22:40] <Nasin> it just freezes
#5187 [22:40] <Ketsueki> moorent: ahh I see where you got the number from now.
#5188 [22:40] <Nasin> and gose all pixelated
#5189 [22:41] <moorent> display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 6300 series Graphics OpenGL version string: 4.1.10665 Compatibility Profile Context
#5190 [22:41] <Nasin> the game dosent close
#5191 [22:41] <Ketsueki> moorent: Ok, you've got the correct drivers (I think)
#5192 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Nasin - First two things to try are to uninstall/reinstall java, and update your video drivers...
#5193 [22:41] <moorent> they are the newest ones on synaptic
#5194 [22:41] <Nasin> alrite
#5195 [22:41] <Nasin> gimme a few
#5196 [22:42] <b0xxy> Ketsueki, any ideas?
#5197 [22:44] <Ketsueki> b0xxy: Yes, you should upgrade the server you're running. IF it is the vanilla minecraft server w/o mods you can get help here. If you're using craftbukkit/bukkit go to #bukkit for help.
#5198 [22:44] <b0xxy> bukkit server
#5199 [22:44] <b0xxy> 1.7.2
#5200 [22:44] <b0xxy> kk
#5201 [22:44] <Ketsueki> b0xxy: that //sounds// like what build; oh latest build. Hum, no that bug should be fixed. Must be something new.
#5202 [22:45] <Ketsueki> b0xxy: anyway go there, not here.
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#5204 [22:45] <Ketsueki> moorent: hum... I'm //trying// to figure out if your gpu is supported by that or not.
#5205 [22:45] <b0xxy> im there, just asking in most channels as i ddnt know what it was related to
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#5207 [22:45] <Nasin> done
#5208 [22:45] <Nasin> and it still crashed
#5209 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Nasin - Could you try these instructions, let me know if there’s any errors at the command prompt when you’re done with it: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#5210 [22:46] <Ketsueki> moorent: humm. should work. What was; oh right crashing on world creation. Are you //sure// it's actually... java
#5211 [22:46] <Bombay> hi i was running a server when windows updated and i restarted my computer but then my server was not letting anyone but me join
#5212 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Bombay - Recheck your port forwarding
#5213 [22:47] <Ketsueki> moorent: please search for java6-jre in synaptic; is it SUN or the openjdk one? If it's not the /sun-java6-jre/ you need to add the partner repository and install the sun-java6-jre.
#5214 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Double check your internal IP address hasn’t changed from before
#5215 [22:47] <Bombay> how do you port forward?
#5216 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Erm..
#5217 [22:48] <Ketsueki> Bombay: ask google about 'port forward' and then your router's brand and model
#5218 [22:48] <Ketsueki> Bombay: further help is beyond this channel's scope IIRC
#5219 [22:48] <Bombay> ok
#5220 [22:48] <moorent> the beginning of the error report says http://mibpaste.com/lvbnAg
#5221 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Eh, we can try helping people through port forwarding, it’s just a pain..
#5222 [22:48] <moorent> so I assumed it was a java problem
#5223 [22:49] <Ketsueki> moorent: to be honest I can't tell from that.
#5224 [22:49] <moorent> alright
#5225 [22:49] <moorent> now, I tried to play it with wine
#5226 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Can’t tell, but I can bet it’s fglrx drivers on linux
#5227 [22:49] <moorent> but it wont even load
#5228 [22:49] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: he already has those...
#5229 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> It’s been a popular problem
#5230 [22:49] <inv0lt> moorent what os u running
#5231 [22:50] <moorent> ubuntu 11.04
#5232 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> No, I mean, the cause is fglrx drivers on linux
#5233 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> ATI drivers have horrible compatibility problems on *nix sometimes
#5234 [22:50] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: I have the 11.6 Catalyst drivers under Arch, it's almost great.
#5235 [22:50] <inv0lt> i hate how they changed the menu all up from 10.04
#5236 [22:50] <inv0lt> i like it the old way
#5237 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Ketsueki - We’ve seen fglrx problems on *nix many times before
#5238 [22:50] <Ketsueki> inv0lt: you might like xubuntu or kubuntu then.
#5239 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Sometimes it’ll work great, other times, you’re better off installing windows
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#5241 [22:50] <moorent> I'm enjoying the new gui
#5242 [22:51] <inv0lt> nah im still using 10.04
#5243 [22:51] <moorent> i guess i can do that, sucks to have to load up windows jsut to play minecraft though
#5244 [22:51] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: moorent's on an AMD E-350 too; it's barely dual core (about 1.5GHZ iirc) but has a lower end DX11 GPU built in.
#5245 [22:51] <moorent> yeah, it's a netbook
#5246 [22:52] * GreyVulpine winces
#5246 [22:52] <Ketsueki> moorent: I wouldn't expect miracles from it... but for a netbook it'll be pretyt good.
#5247 [22:52] <moorent> it runs fine on my desktop
#5248 [22:52] <cornelius> I downloaded at my house using a friends account when he was there and it messed up, when I made an account and bought the game ith still messes up
#5249 [22:52] <Ketsueki> which isn't saying much
#5250 [22:52] <moorent> I run tf2 and lfd2 on low/med just fine
#5251 [22:52] <moorent> not bad for something i can carry around with me all day
#5252 [22:52] <moorent> anyways, thanks for the help
#5253 [22:53] <Ketsueki> moorent: ok that mostly confirms that you should be OK for 3d drivers... as long as those two are stable.
#5254 [22:53] <cornelius> can someone help me
#5255 [22:53] <Ketsueki> moorent: have you tried connecting to someone else's server?
#5256 [22:53] <moorent> well, i dont run those in linux
#5257 [22:53] <Ketsueki> moorent: oh, well I suggest going back to windows to play minecraft then, at least until ubuntu 11.10 comes out.
#5258 [22:54] <moorent> what is that 4-5 months now?
#5259 [22:54] <Ketsueki> moorent: around halloween
#5260 [22:54] <moorent> ew
#5261 [22:54] <moorent> alright
#5262 [22:54] <Ketsueki> moorent: sorry it's that or I help you grab the unstable set of drivers/kernel from Oneiric... which should be stable enough but would just be a pain to do.
#5263 [22:55] <moorent> nah, thats fine
#5264 [22:55] <moorent> I'll just install windows and dual boot
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#5266 [22:55] <Ketsueki> moorent: AMD's recent gen stuff got better about 1-1.5 months after 11.04 locked in on a driver release. So your hardware likely wasn't 100% supported.
#5267 [22:56] <Ketsueki> For example, I had /zero/ binary driver support until may.
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#5269 [22:56] <Nasin> vul
#5270 [22:56] <Nasin> same thing
#5271 [22:56] <Nasin> and no error or anything
#5272 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Nasin - Try turning down the graphics in minecraft?
#5273 [22:57] <Nasin> yea i cant get into that
#5274 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> Nasin - Are you doing anything special with your video card settings? Any settings that aren’t application controlled?
#5275 [22:57] <Nasin> it just crashes there 2
#5276 [22:57] <Nasin> nope
#5277 [22:57] <Nasin> if this dosent work by the next hotfix
#5278 [22:58] <Ketsueki> Nasin: do you have time to hit F3 in game and see the numbers in the upper right?
#5279 [22:58] <Nasin> then ill buy a new computer
#5280 [22:58] <Nasin> or reload it
#5281 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Nasin - I really don’t have any idea where to start attacking this thing..
#5282 [22:58] <Nasin> same
#5283 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> haven’t really heard of something like this before
#5284 [22:58] <Nasin> its alrite
#5285 [22:58] <Nasin> thx for the help
#5286 [22:58] <Nasin> i might make a vid for it
#5287 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> That may help
#5288 [22:58] <Nasin> but id have to use a camera
#5289 [22:58] <Ketsueki> Nasin: do you mind trying one more thing?
#5290 [22:59] <Nasin> sure
#5291 [22:59] <Nasin> what is it?
#5292 [22:59] <Ketsueki> Nasin: Windows+R -> type in %appdata% rename your .minecraft folder to .minecraft.old Try the minecraft launcher again.
#5293 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> nasin’s pretty much done that already
#5294 [23:00] * Ketsueki shrugs
#5294 [23:00] <Nasin> lol
#5295 [23:00] <Ketsueki> Try a fully clean .minecraft directory
#5296 [23:00] <Ketsueki> It can't hurt that much right?
#5297 [23:00] <Nasin> i did
#5298 [23:00] <Ketsueki> You aren't even deleting anything, you just moved it to the side as a backup of whatever is there right now
#5299 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Nasin’s been playing since alpha, it’s one of the first troubleshooting steps you do
#5300 [23:00] <Ketsueki> mmm damn
#5301 [23:00] <Nasin> yea
#5302 [23:01] <Nasin> i know right
#5303 [23:01] <Ketsueki> Dunno. I'm waiting on one or two mods before I go 1.7 my self
#5304 [23:01] <Nasin> they said that why would re-release 1.6.6
#5305 [23:01] <Nasin> that they *
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#5307 [23:02] <Nasin> it seems like i might have to reload my computer
#5308 [23:02] <Nasin> as it works fine on my laptop
#5309 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Nasin - try making a new windows account
#5310 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> See if it still does it then
#5311 [23:02] <Nasin> no point
#5312 [23:02] <Ketsueki> GreyVulpine: it's possible Nasin got some invasive crappy virus
#5313 [23:02] <Nasin> no admin
#5314 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Bleh?
#5315 [23:03] <Nasin> and also
#5316 [23:03] <Nasin> well this one started when i got terrina
#5317 [23:03] <Ketsueki> Nasin: do you have a backup of 1.6.6 to try again?
#5318 [23:03] <Nasin> terrarina*
#5319 [23:03] <Nasin> 1.6.6 works fine ketueki
#5320 [23:04] <Nasin> ketsueki*
#5321 [23:04] <Nasin> you guys know terrarina right?
#5322 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> YEs
#5323 [23:04] <Nasin> well when i got that
#5324 [23:05] <Nasin> minecraft did it patch and started playing up
#5325 [23:07] <Nasin> fuck it ill reload my computer
#5326 [23:07] <Nasin> see you guys later :)
#5327 [23:08] <Ketsueki> Netu: just confirming but 1.7.2 does not work, and 1.6.6 /then/ works?
#5328 [23:08] <Ketsueki> Oh nevermind.
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#5331 [23:11] <Walker1212> Can someone help me with port forwarding on A Dlink Router:601
#5332 [23:12] <Ketsueki> Walker1212: yes, D-link's support hotline
#5333 [23:13] <Walker1212> Alright thanks
#5334 [23:13] <Walker1212> What are the ports?
#5335 [23:14] <Ketsueki> Walker1212: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server You must open the TCP port (default is 25565) on the firewall
#5336 [23:14] <Walker1212> Ok thanks
#5337 [23:14] <Harley> hi ive installed permissions
#5338 [23:15] <Harley> how do i make it so i have every permission?
#5339 [23:15] <Ketsueki> Harley: then you need to check the thread for that or ask in #bukkit if it's about the server.
#5340 [23:15] <Harley> im banned
#5341 [23:15] <TheNytangel> Harley, they banned mibbits.. get an actual IRC client
#5342 [23:15] <Ketsueki> Harley: then I suggest you read /every/ damn post to the Permissions mod forum thread
#5343 [23:16] <TheNytangel> Harley..
#5344 [23:16] <Ketsueki> TheNytangel: Oh is that why... I thought Harley meant /he/ was banned in specific (not an 'I can't get in')
#5345 [23:16] <Harley> no i said something about ddosing thats why im banned
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#5347 [23:16] <TheNytangel> Oh..
#5348 [23:16] <TheNytangel> Anyways..
#5349 [23:17] <ChrisWolfie> This is going to sound very noobish, but I'm new to minecraft, and I was wondering where you got the IP's for multiplayer?
#5350 [23:17] <TheNytangel> I was heading off to bed, but I fealt sorry. So I guess I could stay up a couple extra minutes if you want to PM me Harley..
#5351 [23:17] <TheNytangel> Anyways, I'm done in this channel
#5352 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> ??> ChrisWolfie smp/servers
#5353 [23:19] <VoxelHead> ChrisWolfie: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#5354 [23:19] <VoxelHead> ChrisWolfie: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#5355 [23:19] <ChrisWolfie> Thank you for the help!
#5356 [23:22] <Walker1212> That website didnt work
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#5365 [23:38] <Walker1212> Can someone help me with portforwarding on a dlink router?
#5366 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Walker1212 - Happen to have teamviewer?
#5367 [23:39] <Walker1212> Yup
#5368 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Would you trust me with access?
#5369 [23:39] <Walker1212> Yes
#5370 [23:39] <Walker1212> I will pm you the ID/Pass
#5371 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Alright
#5372 [23:40] <Walker1212> hold on
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#5374 [23:41] <FaceRoll> Is redstone still buggy in SMP
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#5376 [23:42] <Guy64> Im getting Fatal error ocoured (4) amazonnaws
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#5378 [23:43] <Guy64> anyone?
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#5382 [23:55] <bray97> Hey
#5383 [23:55] <bray97> anyone there that can help?
#5384 [23:56] <bray97> :?
#5385 [23:56] <bray97> :/
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#5387 [23:57] <Red_M> hey i cant hear anything while i am playing
#5388 [23:57] <Red_M> no sound
#5389 [23:58] <Red_M> i my sound in minecraft is gone no sound from it
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#5391 [23:59] <Red_M> hello?