#1 [00:00] <genshou> I never liked the nether in SMP. Every time I build a portal, everyone and their dog end up next to my 'secret' base
#2 [00:00] <Kealper> lol
#3 [00:00] <genshou> Doesn't matter if I go out 6000 blocks, somehow the server always decides to link my portal :(
#4 [00:00] <oldtopman> ^
#5 [00:01] <genshou> ...And then people complain that my portal took them several days' journey from their house. I'm like "blame Notch, not me"
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#7 [00:01] <inv0lt> would anybody help me with premmissionsEx
#8 [00:01] <inv0lt> hard to get someone to help me
#9 [00:01] <almostroot> inv0lt: Try #bukkit
#10 [00:02] <inv0lt> they are always afk
#11 [00:02] <almostroot> Ask and wait?
#12 [00:02] <inv0lt> i guess so
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#14 [00:03] <Ketsueki> Yeah, the only things the nether is good for are netherreck and lava; two things that should be at the bottom of the map in the first place
#15 [00:03] <almostroot> inv0lt: Seems much more complicated than permissions 3.x
#16 [00:03] <Ketsueki> Honestly, I'd like little slice of hell caves down there.
#17 [00:03] <Trevor> I am still getting errors even after updating my drivers.
#18 [00:04] <almostroot> Trevor: What errors?
#19 [00:04] <inv0lt> that didnt work either
#20 [00:04] <inv0lt> i tried to use permissions regular
#21 [00:04] <Trevor> http://pastebin.com/d1h5y8qC
#22 [00:04] <Trevor> That is the pastebin url to the error.
#23 [00:05] <genshou> Ketsueki, with only 128 blocks in the world there's not a lot of room for the Nether underneath... I wish it went deeper and higher ;<
#24 [00:05] <almostroot> Trevor: You sure you updated your drivers and restarted your computer?
#25 [00:05] <Trevor> Yup.
#26 [00:05] <almostroot> genshou: That's what she said.
#27 [00:05] <almostroot> Trevor: Update Java as well please.
#28 [00:05] <Ketsueki> lol
#29 [00:05] * genshou has been thatswhatshesaided. :(
#29 [00:05] <almostroot> ??> Trevor getjava
#30 [00:05] <VoxelHead> Trevor: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#31 [00:06] <Ketsueki> almostroot: genshou; what I never got was why the 'nether' didn't stack on right under a normal world (just convert bedrock to stone), then you use an unsigned char for height-mapping
#32 [00:06] <almostroot> inv0lt: Using flat file or SQL?
#33 [00:06] <inv0lt> flat
#34 [00:06] <Trevor> If it doesn't work i'll let let you know
#35 [00:06] <inv0lt> im going to try to install permissions again :(
#36 [00:06] <Ketsueki> Hell, you can use a signed char if you want, just shift the nether's index down 128
#37 [00:06] <almostroot> inv0lt: Flat file is relatively straight-forward.
#38 [00:06] <genshou> If I were talented at Java, I'd write a mod that added an "Underworld" filled with caves as an additional dimension. The portals would be horizontal rather than vertical, at the bottom layer of the overworld
#39 [00:07] <genshou> X and Z coords would perfectly match between Overworld and Underworld portals.
#40 [00:07] <inv0lt> ok think i might of gotten permissions running
#41 [00:07] <inv0lt> will let u know
#42 [00:07] <genshou> At the bottom of the Underworld you would be able to craft portals into the Nether
#43 [00:08] <genshou> ...Maybe I played too much Exile back in the day
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#45 [00:09] <almostroot> inv0lt: Check out selections of my flat file if you want to see some reference: http://pastebin.com/p9AyqyaS
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#48 [00:11] <Waag> How do you fix cannot connect to minecraft.net?
#49 [00:11] <Trevor> I am still having problems opening minecraft almostroot.
#50 [00:11] <inv0lt> does it have to be in that order like info then inheritance then permissions
#51 [00:11] <almostroot> Waag: Can you go to the site in a web browser?
#52 [00:11] <Waag> i can
#53 [00:11] <almostroot> Waag: Your firewall may be blocking the application.
#54 [00:12] <almostroot> Trevor: What problems?
#55 [00:12] <genshou> Well, reinstalling Java seems to have fixed the version display for 1.5_01 at least
#56 [00:12] <Trevor> hs_err_pid
#57 [00:12] <almostroot> inv0lt: Not sure, but that is how it is in all of the examples I found.
#58 [00:12] <Trevor> I reinstalled Java
#59 [00:12] <Waag> how do i add minecraft as an expection? when i browse for applications, minecraft is not in the list
#60 [00:12] <genshou> Not sure if it fixed test display issues in 1.7.2 yet
#61 [00:12] <almostroot> inv0lt: Using Permissions 3.1.2 I think.
#62 [00:12] <inv0lt> ok going to do it that way then
#63 [00:12] <almostroot> Waag: Add it manually. Are you using the .exe?
#64 [00:13] <Waag> yup. Give me a second and i'll see if that works
#65 [00:13] <inv0lt> wait does it matter what version of permissions i use
#66 [00:13] <almostroot> inv0lt: 2.x is being discontinued, so I would update.
#67 [00:14] <inv0lt> well so i can use anohter 3.x version
#68 [00:14] <Waag> It said that minecraft.exe is already in the list of the exceptions
#69 [00:14] <inv0lt> any other*
#70 [00:14] <almostroot> Waag: May have to add the .jar that minecraft uses as well.
#71 [00:15] <Waag> hm, okay, is that in the .minecraft folder?
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#73 [00:15] <almostroot> Hit Windows Key + R and in the box enter %appdata and press enter. Find the .minecraft folder and not the location, then use that to add minecraft.jar as an exception.
#74 [00:15] <almostroot> %appdata%
#75 [00:15] <almostroot> And yes.
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#77 [00:16] <Trevor> almostroot http://pastebin.com/d1h5y8qC that is the error text I have updated Java and my drivers are up to date.
#78 [00:16] <Schala_Zeal> I kinda want to know this before venturing forth so I know what to expect. What are dungeons like on peaceful?
#79 [00:16] <almostroot> Trevor: Can you give me a fresh copy? That is the one you posted before.
#80 [00:17] <adodger> Hi, my main saved game (single player) has vanished from the saved game screen. When I go to the save folder it appears to be there but the Minecraft client won't show it so I can't load. I have the latest version Java and have tried with the latest standalone Windows client and the web client.
#81 [00:17] <almostroot> Schala_Zeal: Beware of lava.
#82 [00:17] <Trevor> Ok
#83 [00:17] <almostroot> adodger: Is the level.dat file still in the save folder?
#84 [00:18] <adodger> Yes
#85 [00:18] <Waag> the .minecraft folder is empty
#86 [00:18] <Trevor> http://pastebin.com/QWwrKpHi
#87 [00:18] <Schala_Zeal> I know lava's around, but it's the monsters that concern me. It's just... what is a dungeon like on peaceful? Is there a spawner?
#88 [00:18] <Trevor> I have to go really quick.
#89 [00:18] <Trevor> Any idea?
#90 [00:18] <almostroot> Schala_Zeal: There is, but it doesn't do anything.
#91 [00:18] <Schala_Zeal> so I can just break in and it's sitting there alone with the chest?
#92 [00:19] <almostroot> Pretty much.
#93 [00:20] <Schala_Zeal> Alright...... It's not difficulty that concerns me but Minecraft's zombies, spiders, skeletons, etc....... they freak me out
#94 [00:20] <almostroot> Trevor still gave me the wrong file...
#95 [00:20] <Schala_Zeal> other than that, great game
#96 [00:20] <almostroot> Schala_Zeal: Hah, yeah, keeps you on your toes.
#97 [00:21] <Waag> almostroot, my .minecraft folder is empty
#98 [00:22] <almostroot> Waag: Hmmm. Did ou run a cracked version of Minecraft before?
#99 [00:23] <almostroot> Waag: Try this when you can:
#100 [00:23] <almostroot> ??> Waag win/hosts
#101 [00:23] <VoxelHead> Waag: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#102 [00:23] <Waag> Never have. I haven't been able to get the game to run since i bought it a year ago =/
#103 [00:23] <VoxelHead> Waag: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#104 [00:23] <Schala_Zeal> Yeah... I play on peaceful, and... you know, it's like that Tom Hanks movie Castaway.... after all, he had no monsters......... or livestock, so I guess that's a bit different
#105 [00:25] <Schala_Zeal> uhm
#106 [00:25] <Schala_Zeal> what happened?
#107 [00:25] <almostroot> Schala_Zeal: Too many periods. VoxelHead thought you might be spamming.
#108 [00:25] <Schala_Zeal> oh I see
#109 [00:25] <Schala_Zeal> I don't really count my periods, sorry
#110 [00:26] <almostroot> Not more than once every three weeks or so, right?
#111 [00:26] <Schala_Zeal> is Voxel s bot?
#112 [00:26] <Schala_Zeal> a*
#113 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> ?? bot
#114 [00:26] <VoxelHead> bot: Yes, I'm a bot.
#115 [00:27] <Schala_Zeal> I apologise. I didn't know that was spam.
#116 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> No worries
#117 [00:27] <almostroot> VoxelHead: just tends to be a little over-zealous with the +qs sometimes, lol.
#118 [00:27] <Waag> almostroot: here's the link to what you requested, http://pastebin.com/Tyx7Mdyq
#119 [00:28] <Schala_Zeal> I usually only watch my periods when typing stuff like fanfics or Ubuntu, which has a notoriously short key repeat delay
#120 [00:28] <almostroot> Waag: Everything looks good. And you're running the latest .exe?
#121 [00:28] <almostroot> ??> Waag win/client
#122 [00:28] <VoxelHead> Waag: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#123 [00:28] <Schala_Zeal> ?? sneeze
#124 [00:28] <Schala_Zeal> oops
#125 [00:28] <Waag> i've downloaded it 5 times tonight
#126 [00:29] <Waag> trying to get it to work
#127 [00:29] <Schala_Zeal> ?? index
#128 [00:29] <VoxelHead> index: See http://faq.xales.info for a list of FAQ entries.
#129 [00:30] <Waag> almostroot: i downloaded again and try to run the file but receive the same error
#130 [00:30] <Schala_Zeal> so on peaceful the worst I have to be concerned about is lava?
#131 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> And a high enough fall
#132 [00:30] <almostroot> Schala_Zeal: Long falls and gaps in bedrocks.
#133 [00:30] <Schala_Zeal> hmm I see
#134 [00:30] <almostroot> And falling gravel/sand.
#135 [00:31] <Schala_Zeal> what's this I hear about dimensions like Nether and what not?
#136 [00:31] <almostroot> Never dig right above or below you in short.
#137 [00:31] <Schala_Zeal> yeah I got better at that
#138 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether
#139 [00:31] <Schala_Zeal> oh my
#140 [00:32] <almostroot> Waag: Try turning your firewall off altogether, and make sure you don't have multiple firewalls running.
#141 [00:33] <Schala_Zeal> so Nether shares the peaceful state I'm assuming? that ghast screenshot looks creepy
#142 [00:33] <almostroot> Schala_Zeal: Yes, but again, lava.
#143 [00:33] <Waag> almostroot: "Cannot connect to minecraft.net" with my firewall completely off
#144 [00:33] <Schala_Zeal> hehe I don't mind lava as long as no silly cows or pigs push me in
#145 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> Waag - Windows username doesn't have a "!" mark in it, and your system time/date correct?
#146 [00:34] <Waag> the username does have a "!" in it
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#148 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> Oi, at the end?
#149 [00:34] <Waag> yes
#150 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> That'll do it
#151 [00:34] <mib_yr17sw> Cant download, I just bought it.
#152 [00:35] <almostroot> GreyVulpine: Thanks, forgot about that.
#153 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Waag - Please try making a new windows user account.
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#155 [00:35] <inv0lt> im wondering if some plugins are conflicting with each other
#156 [00:35] <almostroot> mib_yr17sw: Is it saying that you're not premium?
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#158 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Don't just rename your current one, but make a new, seperate account, without a ! in it
#159 [00:35] <Waag> okay, i will try that, thanks
#160 [00:35] <mib_yr17sw> No, it just wont run.
#161 [00:35] <almostroot> mib_yr17sw: Can you elaborate in detail please.
#162 [00:36] <Schala_Zeal> Modded textures are non-singleplayer I take it?
#163 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> almostroot - Sorry, don't mean to be butting in.
#164 [00:36] * Xx2BEAU5xX [Xx2BEAU5xX@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#165 [00:36] <almostroot> GreyVulpine: You weren't. I was brain farting. Knew there was something that I was forgetting.
#166 [00:36] <inv0lt> Plugins: Permissions, WorldGuard, BukkitCompat, Essentials, WorldEdit, EssentialsSpawn
#167 [00:36] <mib_yr17sw> I have Vista right? I click on it and I say run, then it juts doesn't do anything.
#168 [00:36] <almostroot> inv0lt: It's the Essentials
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#170 [00:36] <inv0lt> do anyof them usally conflict with each other
#171 [00:36] <inv0lt> treally
#172 [00:36] <inv0lt> soo i cant use it
#173 [00:37] <Schala_Zeal> whoa, MC Server uses a plugin architecture?
#174 [00:37] <almostroot> inv0lt: Essentials is considered horribly coded by other modders.
#175 [00:37] <inv0lt> ok will get rid of it then
#176 [00:37] <Xx2BEAU5xX> my minecraft launcher say theres a problem and i get the blacfk window of death
#177 [00:37] <almostroot> Schala_Zeal: Only on the third-party bukkit.
#178 [00:37] <Schala_Zeal> oh
#179 [00:37] <almostroot> mib_yr17sw: You downloaded the .exe client? What version of java are you using?
#180 [00:37] <almostroot> ??> mib_yr17sw java/version
#181 [00:37] <VoxelHead> mib_yr17sw: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#182 [00:37] <VoxelHead> mib_yr17sw: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#183 [00:38] <Xx2BEAU5xX> how i downloaded a texture pack and it wont let me delete it
#184 [00:38] <almostroot> Xx2BEAU5xX: Using Windows?
#185 [00:38] <Xx2BEAU5xX> yah
#186 [00:38] <almostroot> ??> Xx2BEAU5xX win/reinst
#187 [00:38] <VoxelHead> Xx2BEAU5xX: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#188 [00:38] <VoxelHead> Xx2BEAU5xX: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#189 [00:38] <almostroot> Follow those directions from VoxelHead.
#190 [00:38] <genshou> Schala_Zeal, modded textures as in custom textures for your game?
#191 [00:38] <Xx2BEAU5xX> thank
#192 [00:38] <Xx2BEAU5xX> s
#193 [00:38] <inv0lt> still seems not to work though
#194 [00:38] <inv0lt> :(
#195 [00:39] <mib_yr17sw> Im using the newest one and I did use the .exe
#196 [00:39] <Schala_Zeal> yes
#197 [00:39] <genshou> Texture packs work on the client-side. You can use 16x16 packs without any client mods
#198 [00:39] <almostroot> inv0lt: May have to try a full reinstall with the essentials plugins removed.EssentialsSpawn too.
#199 [00:39] <Schala_Zeal> the default is ok and all but it would be nice to put in my own... or if there's an upcoming creative mode like I heard classic has had
#200 [00:39] <inv0lt> k i will try again
#201 [00:39] <almostroot> mib_yr17sw: Does it create a text file with error or give you ANY messages?
#202 [00:40] <mib_yr17sw> No
#203 [00:40] <genshou> The installation instructions vary based on what operating system you're using, but you basically just find your root minecraft folder and there's a "texturepacks" folder in there.
#204 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Schala_Zeal - There will be a classic "creative" mode put into minecraft with 1.8, the next patch release
#205 [00:40] <Schala_Zeal> ooooh delicious
#206 [00:40] <inv0lt> arhh
#207 [00:41] <almostroot> mib_yr17sw: How much memory (RAM) does your computer have?
#208 [00:41] <Schala_Zeal> and I hear NPCs are coming with it as well?
#209 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Just check out http://notch.tumblr.com/ for more info
#210 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Yes, NPC villages
#211 [00:41] <mib_yr17sw> IDK...
#212 [00:41] <genshou> I don't like the look of default textures either. I suggest you find a texture pack you like and read up on how to install it (and install the HD patch if necessary)
#213 [00:41] <almostroot> I'm hoping for a support team and multi-core support, screw NPC villiages.
#214 [00:41] <inv0lt> how about lwc do i need to unstall that also
#215 [00:41] <mib_yr17sw> I have 2.00 GB
#216 [00:41] <mib_yr17sw> of Ram.
#217 [00:42] <Xx2BEAU5xX> YYYEESSS it worked VoxelHead thanks alot
#218 [00:42] <genshou> (also, Chrono Trigger ftw, I'm replaying right now at the point where Ayla is first met)
#219 [00:42] <Schala_Zeal> I think I found a good one at minecraftcustomizer.net or something by that address
#220 [00:42] <Schala_Zeal> but it took me 10 minutes to find out I drop it in as a .zip file
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#222 [00:43] <genshou> yeah... Windows, right?
#223 [00:43] <almostroot> mib_yr17sw: Try running the .jar using these instructions:
#224 [00:43] <Schala_Zeal> I think I need to read up on installing packs
#225 [00:43] <almostroot> Make a folder called Minecraft somewhere on your computer. Download the following and move it to that directory: http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
#226 [00:43] <almostroot> Open Notepad, and in there add this line without quotes: "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.jar" Then, save the file in the Minecraft folder, naming it minecraft.bat and change the File type to All files. Double-click minecraft.bat to try and run the server.
#227 [00:43] <Schala_Zeal> yep, Win 7, soon to be Ubuntu Natty next month though
#228 [00:43] <inv0lt> go with 10.04
#229 [00:43] <inv0lt> dont get 11.04
#230 [00:43] <Schala_Zeal> why's that?
#231 [00:43] <inv0lt> design is stupid now
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#233 [00:44] <genshou> If you've got the texture pack zip in %appdata%\.minecraft\texturepacks you should be able to select it in game... but if it's bigger than 16x16 you need the HD fix to use it
#234 [00:44] <inv0lt> changed alot of stuff
#235 [00:44] <Schala_Zeal> well I last used 10.10 and it was fine
#236 [00:44] <Schala_Zeal> hmm
#237 [00:44] <Schala_Zeal> besides the GUI?
#238 [00:44] <mib_yr17sw> almostroot: its not doing anything. Can I not use google chrome?
#239 [00:45] <inv0lt> well nvm u said u had ubuntu before
#240 [00:45] <inv0lt> the newest one is hard for usercontrol
#241 [00:45] <inv0lt> not as accessiable as the older versions
#242 [00:46] <Schala_Zeal> well I tamed Vista, Natty should be easy(er)
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#244 [00:47] <inv0lt> i shall stick with windows xp :P
#245 [00:47] <genshou> yay xp
#246 [00:48] <inv0lt> anyways i still get errors :|
#247 [00:48] <mib_yr17sw> FUCK!!
#248 [00:48] <inv0lt> i been working on it for 3 days now
#249 [00:48] <inv0lt> still nothing
#250 [00:48] <Schala_Zeal> XP was good....... the problem is a lot of corporate jerks hop on the Vista/7 bandwagon and force you to upgrade
#251 [00:48] <inv0lt> vista sucks baddly
#252 [00:48] <inv0lt> windows 7 is just simpley vista with new gui
#253 [00:48] <inv0lt> windows 8 will be the same as win7
#254 [00:49] <Schala_Zeal> Windows 8 preview made me facepalm
#255 [00:49] <mib_yr17sw> HELP PLEASE?!?!?
#256 [00:50] <Schala_Zeal> I'll get it, but I won't like it........ and I'll quite likely remind m$ everyday of that on facebook
#257 [00:50] <Schala_Zeal> oops
#258 [00:51] <Schala_Zeal> If Voxel had nuts I'd probably kick em hard
#259 [00:51] <mib_yr17sw> I NEED HELP!! JUST SPENT 20 DOLLARS AND CANT DOWNLOAD THE MUTHERFUCKER.
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#261 [00:52] <mib_yr17sw> :(((( SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME?
#262 [00:54] <inv0lt> lol
#263 [00:54] <inv0lt> umm
#264 [00:54] <inv0lt> i cant help u
#265 [00:54] <mib_yr17sw> FML.
#266 [00:54] <xolotl> mib_yr17sw: What do you mean by "can't download?"
#267 [00:54] <xolotl> mib_yr17sw: What exactly is happening?
#268 [00:54] <xolotl> mib_yr17sw: Also, stop with the caps and the swearing.
#269 [00:55] <mib_yr17sw> Ive tried the .exe and the .jar and I try to run it and nothing happens.
#270 [00:55] <xolotl> mib_yr17sw: Do you have Java installed?
#271 [00:55] <mib_yr17sw> Yee.
#272 [00:56] <xolotl> mib_yr17sw: Go to start->run and type "cmd", then when you're at the C:> prompt, type "java -version"
#273 [00:56] <mib_yr17sw> ?
#274 [00:58] <mib_yr17sw> Im am mind effed.
#275 [00:58] <mib_yr17sw> Please dont ditch.
#276 [00:59] <mib_yr17sw> Like start at the bottom of my desktop screen?
#277 [00:59] <almostroot> mib_yr17sw: Windows Key + R type in CMD and press enter. In the black window that opens, enter java -version
#278 [00:59] <almostroot> Copy the whole screen and put it on pastebin.
#279 [00:59] <xolotl> or that. :)
#280 [01:00] <mib_yr17sw> what is pastebin?
#281 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> ?? pastebin
#282 [01:00] <almostroot> ?? pastebin
#283 [01:00] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you do, and we can see what you have pasted.
#284 [01:00] <almostroot> Everybody was kung-fu fighting, GreyVulpine was fast as lightning...
#285 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> You'll get used to me ninja-ing here..
#286 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Kealper knows.
#287 [01:02] <mib_yr17sw> it says java-version is not recognized as an internal or external command operable program or batch file? am i supposed to press enter?
#288 [01:03] <mib_yr17sw> THANK YOU SO MUCH!1
#289 [01:03] <xolotl> mib_yr17sw: There was a space inbetween "java" and "-version"
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#291 [01:04] <mib_yr17sw> IM ALL GEE NOW!!! THANKS BOYS!!
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#294 [01:11] <Jedawg> Hey can anybody help me out with a server problem im having
#295 [01:13] <Jedawg> so nobody can help me?
#296 [01:13] <almostroot> ??> Jedawg ask
#297 [01:13] <xolotl> Jedawg: Have some patience
#298 [01:13] <VoxelHead> Jedawg: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#299 [01:13] <ChrisWolfie> They probably aren't here, try coming back at a different time
#300 [01:13] <VoxelHead> Jedawg: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#303 [01:14] <Jedawg> I have already ran my minecraft server but i dont now how to connect it
#304 [01:14] <almostroot> ??> Jedawg ip/external
#305 [01:14] <VoxelHead> Jedawg: (ip/external) Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#306 [01:14] <Jedawg> i know my ip address
#307 [01:15] <almostroot> Did you set up port forwarding?
#308 [01:15] <Jedawg> yea
#309 [01:15] <almostroot> so.... What's your issue?
#310 [01:15] <Jedawg> my friend wants to play minecraft on aver with me but how do i start it
#311 [01:16] <almostroot> Jedawg: Just start the server, give him your IP address.
#312 [01:16] <Jedawg> alright ill se if that works because it didnt work last time
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#322 [01:36] <Wug> ??~ ip/external Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/;;Or just say "!myip" and aubot will tell you.
#323 [01:36] <Wug> ??modify ip/external Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/;;Or just say "!myip" and aubot will tell you.
#324 [01:37] <Wug> ?? ip/external
#325 [01:37] <VoxelHead> ip/external: Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#326 [01:37] <Wug> ??~ ip/external|Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/;;Or just say "!myip" and aubot will tell you.
#327 [01:37] <Wug> there I did it right that time
#328 [01:38] <Wug> ??>> wug ip/external
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#332 [02:03] <RAM> hello
#333 [02:04] <RAM> Ihave a question if thats ok
#334 [02:04] <lemon-rev> ?
#335 [02:04] <RAM> how do I set up a multiplayer world
#336 [02:05] <lemon-rev> have you got the server file to be a server ?
#337 [02:05] <RAM> Maybe?
#338 [02:05] <lemon-rev> lol
#339 [02:05] <lemon-rev> ok, well once you run the server and you have set it up the way you want it should automaticly generate a world
#340 [02:06] <RAM> mmkay'
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#343 [02:22] <Wug> I do enjoy how BlockTNT is ah
#344 [02:22] <Wug> as in 'aaaahhhhh' tnt
#345 [02:22] <Wug> oops this isnt #risucraft
#346 [02:28] <inv0lt> premissions still dont want to work arhhh
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#350 [02:37] <alen_fox> hiya, i have an isue, when i use any of my keys it works like a number and evry key just makes it go up 1 number switching through my inventory and stuff
#351 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> ?? alen_fox comcast
#352 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> er
#353 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> ??> alen_fox comcast
#354 [02:38] <VoxelHead> alen_fox: (comcast) If you installed 'Constant Guard by Comcast' and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, uninstall it. This is a known issue.
#355 [02:38] <alen_fox> okies thank you
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#357 [02:39] <mib_lwp5o9> hey i have a question about fraps with minecraft
#358 [02:40] <mib_lwp5o9> hello?
#359 [02:40] <ChrisWolfie> Most people are sleeping, so you may need to try later
#360 [02:40] <mib_lwp5o9> ok
#361 [02:42] <genshou> What's the question about fraps?
#362 [02:45] <mib_lwp5o9> my minecraft laggs to hell and back it only gets 6 fps or sometimes 10
#363 [02:47] <Opeth> The video capture software and minecraft are both resource intensive.
#364 [02:48] <mib_lwp5o9> so how do i get the lagg to go away
#365 [02:48] <Opeth> ??> mib_lwp5o9 win/dxdiag
#366 [02:48] <VoxelHead> mib_lwp5o9: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#367 [02:48] <VoxelHead> mib_lwp5o9: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#368 [02:48] <inv0lt> lol i fixed permissions it was cause i had an extra space behind Default and Mod
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#370 [02:50] <mib_lwp5o9> due thanks hope it works:D
#371 [02:51] <Opeth> mib_lwp5o9 - That will only give me information on your computer specs.
#372 [02:53] <mib_lwp5o9> mind giving me the irc channel thing?
#373 [02:54] <mib_lwp5o9> wait paste it on here?
#374 [02:54] <mib_lwp5o9> http://pastebin.com/JqKT4Qm3
#375 [02:54] <VoxelHead> irc/channel: You're in one.
#376 [02:54] <mib_lwp5o9> there is the link
#377 [02:54] <mib_lwp5o9> haha im new to mibbet
#378 [02:55] <Kealper> how are you lagging with that?
#379 [02:55] <Opeth> Mibbet is just a web-client that accesses basic irc commands.
#380 [02:55] <mib_lwp5o9> i am lagging with fraps
#381 [02:55] <Opeth> Hm
#382 [02:55] <mib_lwp5o9> kealper
#383 [02:56] <Kealper> funny, i was just thinking "hmm...i should bring up voicing him tomorrow when others are awake"
#384 [02:56] <Kealper> oh, with fraps
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#386 [02:56] <mib_lwp5o9> voxel did you check out the link?
#387 [02:56] <Opeth> voxel is a bot.
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#389 [02:56] <Kealper> yeah, not much you can do with that.....it's a laptop, and fraps practically needs a supercomputer to not lag
#390 [02:56] <mib_lwp5o9> oh :(
#391 [02:57] <Kealper> i've found GameCam works less-laggily
#392 [02:57] <mib_lwp5o9> but its less quality
#393 [02:57] <Opeth> I always use camtasia, works pretty well.
#394 [02:57] <Kealper> have you tried turning the settings to half the size in fraps for recording?
#395 [02:57] <mib_lwp5o9> yea
#396 [02:57] <Kealper> Opeth: Opeth as in the band?
#397 [02:58] <mib_lwp5o9> i have deleted lots of stuff to
#398 [02:58] <Opeth> Yes.
#399 [02:58] <Kealper> bleh, not quite my cup of tea, but meh lol
#400 [02:58] <Kealper> mib_lwp5o9: it's probably not going to get any less-laggy :/
#401 [02:58] <mib_lwp5o9> should i just try to get more ram?
#402 [02:59] <Kealper> it's not ram that is the issue
#403 [02:59] <mib_lwp5o9> then whats the issue u think?
#404 [02:59] <Kealper> you've already got loads of ram
#405 [02:59] <mib_lwp5o9> i only have 4
#406 [02:59] <mib_lwp5o9> gb
#407 [02:59] <Kealper> "only"
#408 [02:59] <Kealper> 4gb of ram goes a long ways
#409 [02:59] <mib_lwp5o9> hmm
#410 [02:59] <Kealper> and is quite decent to have in a laptop
#411 [02:59] <Kealper> the main issue is the fact that it's a laptop
#412 [03:00] <mib_lwp5o9> oh
#413 [03:00] <mib_lwp5o9> besides that how do i get less lag
#414 [03:00] <Kealper> laptops are not really made for raw performance, they are designed for portability, so you get performance hits when using laptops
#415 [03:00] <mib_lwp5o9> oh
#416 [03:01] <mib_lwp5o9> so what your saying is i probily just wasted 37 bucks?
#417 [03:01] <Kealper> well, generally when it comes to something like fraps making the game lag, it is because the computer does not have enough processing power and/or it's ram is not fast enough
#418 [03:01] <Kealper> you could get a refund, i'm sure....although fraps does come with a demo so you could have seen if it worked well for you or not beforehand :/
#419 [03:02] <Kealper> you could try one last thing
#420 [03:02] <Kealper> go in to the task manager
#421 [03:02] <mib_lwp5o9> k
#422 [03:02] <Kealper> and set fraps.exe to "Above Normal" process priority in the Processes tab
#423 [03:03] <mib_lwp5o9> uh
#424 [03:04] <mib_lwp5o9> how do i do that im in my task bar but idk how to do that
#425 [03:04] <Opeth> Task bar or task manager?
#426 [03:04] <mib_lwp5o9> ahah ow wait haah
#427 [03:04] <Opeth> Hm.
#428 [03:05] <mib_lwp5o9> but how do i set it to above normal?
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#430 [03:06] <Opeth> Right click the process - Go to 'Set Priority'
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#432 [03:06] <honey_slew> hello?
#433 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> hola señor
#434 [03:06] <Opeth> 'Ello 'ello.
#435 [03:06] <honey_slew> english?
#436 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> ¿Cómo está usted
#437 [03:07] <honey_slew> hey can u help?
#438 [03:07] <Kealper> no habla ingles
#439 [03:07] <Opeth> I'm afraid this is the Spanish support chat.
#440 [03:07] <Kealper> (no, seriously, ask and ye shall recieve)
#441 [03:07] <honey_slew> is there an english?
#442 [03:07] * Opeth sighs.
#442 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> We speak all languages here.
#443 [03:07] <Kealper> lol
#444 [03:07] <Kealper> well, we speak English, Google speaks the rest
#445 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> :P
#446 [03:07] <mib_lwp5o9> ok i did the thing to make it above normal
#447 [03:08] <honey_slew> lol
#448 [03:08] <honey_slew> can u help?
#449 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> honey_slew - With?
#450 [03:08] <Kealper> speaking of Google Translate....holy crap has that gotten good
#451 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> Gah, tell me about it..
#452 [03:08] <honey_slew> ????
#453 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> honey_slew - Can you tell us your problem?
#454 [03:08] <Kealper> honey_slew: just ask the question
#455 [03:09] <Kealper> question being problem, i just suck
#456 [03:09] <GreyVulpine> But we already knew that.
#457 [03:09] <honey_slew> when i open minecraft on internet the mojang symbol appers but then it goes black
#458 [03:09] <Kealper> /wrists
#459 [03:09] <Kealper> has it worked before?
#460 [03:09] <honey_slew> yes
#461 [03:10] <Kealper> mib_lwp5o9: also....try that, if that doesn't work, then go in and set fraps.exe's process priority to "Below Normal" ....the point of this being to see what part is causing the lag
#462 [03:10] <Kealper> honey_slew: did you install any mods or texture packs?
#463 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> honey_slew - Ever installed any mods? Modloader perhaps?
#464 [03:10] <honey_slew> i installed one a few weeks ago but it was fine and i playe propely
#465 [03:10] <honey_slew> but
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#467 [03:11] <honey_slew> i installed just then buttik
#468 [03:11] <honey_slew> for a server
#469 [03:11] <honey_slew> but it was the website minecraft gave
#470 [03:12] <honey_slew> so wat can i do?
#471 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Does the downloadable client one still work?
#472 [03:13] <honey_slew> i doesnt let me download
#473 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't?
#474 [03:14] <honey_slew> no
#475 [03:14] <honey_slew> it stops at 99%
#476 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Well, let's try reinstalling minecraft then, you will lose your mods.
#477 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#478 [03:15] <honey_slew> its on the internet
#479 [03:15] <honey_slew> windows
#480 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar/run command, type in: %appdata%
#481 [03:16] <honey_slew> then
#482 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> Find the ".minecraft" folder and delete everything inside except for the "saves" folder
#483 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> afterwards, try minecraft again
#484 [03:17] <mib_lwp5o9> type %appdata% in your start bar
#485 [03:17] <mib_lwp5o9> and youll find it
#486 [03:17] <honey_slew> ok im trying again
#487 [03:17] <honey_slew> it just getting a fresh bin
#488 [03:18] <honey_slew> thank you so much
#489 [03:18] <honey_slew> u guys are helpfull
#490 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> We try to be.
#491 [03:18] <honey_slew> thanks
#492 [03:18] <honey_slew> bye
#493 [03:18] * GreyVulpine waves
#493 [03:22] <mib_lwp5o9> hey that above normal thing reallly healped guyz:D
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#495 [03:25] <honey_slew> hi again
#496 [03:25] <honey_slew> has any one heard of something called bukkit?
#497 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it's a custom modded server
#498 [03:26] <Kealper> no, but i'm sure #bukkit has
#499 [03:26] <honey_slew> well when i download it that happens the blank screen thing
#500 [03:26] <Kealper> uhh.....
#501 [03:26] <Kealper> Bukkit is not a client mod
#502 [03:26] <honey_slew> bukkitcontrib
#503 [03:27] <Opeth> http://forums.bukkit.org/pages/about-us/
#504 [03:27] <honey_slew> thanks
#505 [03:27] <honey_slew> yea that
#506 [03:27] <honey_slew> when i download it my minecraft messes up
#507 [03:27] * Opeth sighs.
#507 [03:28] <Opeth> It assists in the running of minecraft multiplayer servers, not a client.
#508 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Honestly don't see how running bukkit affects anything on the client's side.
#509 [03:28] <honey_slew> yes but it says i have to download it
#510 [03:28] <honey_slew> i download and then i use minecraft in internet and it stays a black screen on the part where you play minecraft
#511 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> Why do you need to run bukkit in the first place?
#512 [03:30] <honey_slew> do you have a good link to download cause it might be the link... i dont know when i go in server it says...
#513 [03:31] <honey_slew> by the way the server is jabacraft.zapto.org:25565
#514 [03:31] <Ketsueki> !check jabacraft.zapto.org
#515 [03:32] <Ketsueki> honey_slew: looks likely that the server is working. Now when you start minecraft and login do you get a single player / server / textures/ options screen?
#516 [03:32] <honey_slew> says this server requires bukkitcontrib sp
#517 [03:33] <Opeth> Heh. Got a socket write error just after I joined the server.
#518 [03:33] <honey_slew> yes and multiplayer
#519 [03:33] <honey_slew> single player/ multiplayer/ mods and texture packs and options
#520 [03:34] <honey_slew> so
#521 [03:34] <Ketsueki> https://github.com/Afforess/BukkitContrib
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#523 [03:35] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#524 [03:35] <Ketsueki> honey_slew: it seems that this is some extra extra annoying addon; probably they like all those single player mods and want to force everyone to use them (all of that untrusted code x.x)
#525 [03:35] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#526 [03:36] <Ketsueki> It's even worse than AuBot's auto-triggered trigger suggests. This isn't just #bukkit related, it's a mod on top of that.
#527 [03:36] <Ketsueki> It's like the Nth degree of annoying on all fronts.
#528 [03:36] <honey_slew> lol
#529 [03:36] <Ketsueki> The timing is one second away from my line
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#531 [03:39] <Starr> hello
#532 [03:39] <Starr> can someone help with a mobtrap?
#533 [03:40] <SlashLife> I have built a block trap. :D
#534 [03:40] <Starr> lol
#535 [03:40] <Starr> can u help with lava trap?
#536 [03:40] <Starr> most of the loot burns
#537 [03:41] <Opeth> This chat is more for technical support. Try #minecraft
#538 [03:41] <Starr> i was there
#539 [03:41] <Starr> they said i must join this
#540 [03:43] <Ketsueki> Starr: most loot will burn; best design I've seen so far involves placing two lava blocks just far enough away so that they each reach out exactly one block over a 2 wide tunnle. Said tunnel will have ladders right beneath the ledges the lava would then flow down. A mob comes in such that they are forced to touch the lava. (this is by water feed system) The mob burns their loot drops in to a collection area.
#541 [03:43] <Opeth> Starr - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mob+trap
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#543 [03:44] <Ketsueki> Starr: Drowner traps use a similar idea, but instead force the mobs in to water they can't climb up out of (1 gap of air to next ledge) and then have a drain beneath it that goes to a collection area; that's what my skeleton spawner trap setup looks like.
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#546 [03:46] <Ketsueki> Starr: honestly, armed with that data, a few random youtube vids, and the page on minecraftwiki.net you should have enough of a start.
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#548 [03:51] <inv0lt> gnight
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#550 [03:55] <Trevor> Are there no helpers on?
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#552 [03:56] <mib_skksxx> Can you pleaswe help me
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#554 [03:58] <nana92625> I need help with installing the full version of minecraft on my home computer. Can anyone help me???
#555 [03:58] <Opeth> What OS are you running?
#556 [03:58] <nana92625> Windows 7
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#558 [03:58] <Opeth> What problems are you having? Did you download and run the .exe file from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp ?
#559 [03:59] <nana92625> I am currently dowloading the .exe file and it isn't downloading
#560 [03:59] <Opeth> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#561 [04:00] <Opeth> It should just automatically begin to download.
#562 [04:01] <nana92625> it is but the window that is showing the program downloading, the bar isn't moving
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#564 [04:03] <nana92625> the bar is just sitting there half loaded!!! It is in the same place as it was 10 minutes ago!!
#565 [04:03] <Opeth> What browser are you using?
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#573 [04:26] <SimonJ> Evening
#574 [04:26] <Opeth> Mornin'
#575 [04:26] <SimonJ> Anyone with a clue on how to get this door working?
#576 [04:26] <krebbit> click it?
#577 [04:26] <Opeth> Elaborate.
#578 [04:26] <SimonJ> the one in the mojang video, I need some help with torches, restone, repeaters etc.
#579 [04:27] <SimonJ> I have a basic asembly
#580 [04:27] <krebbit> uhh can anyone help me with this problem... whenever I try to play minecraft a black screen appears
#581 [04:27] <SimonJ> Just can't seem get both of the forwards/backwards pistons to work correctly or together.
#582 [04:27] <SimonJ> krebbit, do you have any mods?
#583 [04:28] <Opeth> SimonJ - Post your problem (and explain in detail, pictures etc.) in http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/67-redstone/
#584 [04:28] <krebbit> ok thanks
#585 [04:28] <Opeth> Eh
#586 [04:28] <SimonJ> if you have the latest client, click option then "force update" to clean it out.
#587 [04:28] <Opeth> krebbit - What OS are you using and have you installed any mods?
#588 [04:29] <krebbit> OS you mean like windows?
#589 [04:29] <SimonJ> Cheers Opeth
#590 [04:30] <Opeth> Yeah
#591 [04:30] <krebbit> ok and wheres whis force update?
#592 [04:31] <Opeth> Ignore that for now.
#593 [04:31] <Opeth> Have you tried installing any mods/texture packs?
#594 [04:31] <SimonJ> He has
#595 [04:31] <SimonJ> some sort of village mod
#596 [04:31] <SimonJ> Millionéres?
#597 [04:31] <krebbit> yup
#598 [04:32] <Opeth> Did you remove the META-INF folder from minecraft.jar?
#599 [04:32] <krebbit> META-INF?
#600 [04:32] <SimonJ> if it is, try redowloading a mod, if that fails, try another source.
#601 [04:32] <Opeth> I take that as a no then.
#602 [04:32] <SimonJ> in the minecraft.jar, there is a folder called "META-INF" get rid of it when installing mods.
#603 [04:32] <SimonJ> No idea why it interferes, it does.
#604 [04:32] <Opeth> Press the Win+R key and type %appdata%
#605 [04:33] <Opeth> Then go to .minecraft, then bin. Right click the minecraft.jar file and open with winzip/7zip
#606 [04:33] <Opeth> Then simply delete the META-INF folder and run Minecraft.
#607 [04:33] <SimonJ> I have my .minecraft folder in a toolbar on the side of my screen, I should give my Minecraft game+extra's folder and the appdata folder different icons on the bar, confusing.
#608 [04:34] <Opeth> If that doesn't work.
#609 [04:34] <SimonJ> I use JZip.
#610 [04:34] <Opeth> ??> Krebbit win/reinst
#611 [04:34] <VoxelHead> Krebbit: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#612 [04:34] <VoxelHead> Krebbit: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#613 [04:34] <SimonJ> VoxelHead: Use options in the new client and use force update.
#614 [04:35] <Opeth> Voxel is a bot.
#615 [04:35] <SimonJ> someone upgrate it's text/
#616 [04:36] <SimonJ> krebbit: if you do it the way VoxelHead said, you will loose any texture packs, Force update only replaces whats in the "bin" folder.
#617 [04:36] <Opeth> Most people don't actually use the downloaded client as their main one.
#618 [04:37] <krebbit> uhh where would i find this META-INF?
#619 [04:37] <Opeth> Right click the minecraft jar file and open with winzip/7zip/jzip.
#620 [04:39] <Opeth> If you still suffer the black screen after doing that. Then delete the /bin folder entirely and run minecraft again.
#621 [04:39] <krebbit> any other step because i still cant find it
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#624 [04:41] <Opeth> C:\Users\[INSERTYOURNAMEHERE]\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin
#625 [04:41] <Opeth> You should see a file named minecraft
#626 [04:41] <krebbit> ok
#627 [04:41] <Opeth> Right click > Open With > winrar, 7zip, jzip (whatever one you have)
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#630 [04:48] <SimonJ> Don't tell me this is still going on.
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#632 [04:49] <SimonJ> Hey Opeth, do you think going to #minecraft would be better for in-game help or keep barking here?
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#634 [04:51] <Schala_Zeal> I was watching Paul's tutorial videos and I'm a little curious as to what the sound effect at 11:03 indicates in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl7KgM7Zibs
#635 [04:51] <Schala_Zeal> something like a violin screech
#636 [04:51] <Opeth> Try #minecraft then
#637 [04:51] <Opeth> I'm not sure on the other lobbies at the moment.
#638 [04:51] <Schala_Zeal> ok thanks
#639 [04:52] <Opeth> One second Schala
#640 [04:52] <Schala_Zeal> ok
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#642 [04:52] <SimonJ> Ok Opeth I'll have a look zeal, cave sounds?
#643 [04:52] <Schala_Zeal> yeah this is the underground farm tutorial
#644 [04:52] <SimonJ> Schala_Zeal: Definitly cave sounds.
#645 [04:53] <Schala_Zeal> and when he took a torch off the cave wall, there was some sort of violin screech
#646 [04:53] <Schala_Zeal> ambience?
#647 [04:53] <SimonJ> Schala_Zeal: Theres a folder full of scary sounds that are played when you go near LARGE dark area's
#648 [04:53] <SimonJ> Surprised I don't delete them every time I play.
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#650 [04:54] <krebbit> uhh what would happen if i deleted the whole thing and tried again? would i have to buy the game or just lose all my worlds?
#651 [04:54] <Opeth> Ah. That is cave ambience sounds yeah.
#652 [04:54] <Schala_Zeal> hmm.... is it possible I could do a little datamining and just remove them, or possibly substitute them with mute sound files?
#653 [04:54] <Schala_Zeal> cause that just gives me the creeps
#654 [04:54] <Opeth> You can substitute them yeah.
#655 [04:54] <Opeth> Removing might work.
#656 [04:54] <Opeth> It indicates that a dark space is nearby.
#657 [04:54] <Schala_Zeal> removing them causes problems I'm guessing?
#658 [04:54] <Schala_Zeal> hmm
#659 [04:54] <krebbit> Zeal those sounds are somewut useful
#660 [04:54] <SimonJ> krebbit: You don't have to buy the game again, you can freely downlaod it if you log in.
#661 [04:54] <Opeth> Not sure.
#662 [04:55] <Schala_Zeal> well I only play peaceful... monsters creep me out
#663 [04:55] <Opeth> ??> Krebbit win/reinst
#664 [04:55] <VoxelHead> Krebbit: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#665 [04:55] <VoxelHead> Krebbit: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#666 [04:55] <krebbit> they indicate that there is a large cave thing nearby
#667 [04:55] <SimonJ> krebbit: Like I said, for a fresh install, use the latest client, click "options" above "log in" and click "Force Update" for a clean BIN folder.
#668 [04:55] <mib_8pfc7h> Can someone help me, I made a new account on my computer, and when I went to install minecraft mods the .minecraft fil was not in Appdata/Roaming, What do I do?
#669 [04:55] <Schala_Zeal> are these sounds in the JAR files?
#670 [04:56] <SimonJ> Schala_Zeal: I beleive to.
#671 [04:56] <Schala_Zeal> hmm
#672 [04:56] <Schala_Zeal> Okay I'll open them with 7zip and see what I can do
#673 [04:56] <SimonJ> Schala_Zeal: Get Winrar, 7Zip or my favourate JZip and root about, you'll be surprised what you'll find.
#674 [04:57] <SimonJ> mib_8pfc7h: Have you tried playing minecraft since making the new account?
#675 [04:57] <Schala_Zeal> hmm... well since this is Java, I hope Notch used a code obfuscater because Java bytecode can be decompiled with JAD
#676 [04:57] <mib_8pfc7h> yes
#677 [04:57] <Schala_Zeal> not that I plan to since I don't code Java
#678 [04:58] <mib_8pfc7h> I forced an update and everything, and when I click the link in options it doesn't do anything?
#679 [04:58] <SimonJ> Schala_Zeal: A lot of the files within the .jar are quite plain to see, It's like .pk3 for older quake-based games essentially.
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#681 [05:00] <Schala_Zeal> so MC was meant to be source-modifiable as long as it was bought and not pirated?
#682 [05:00] <krebbit> uhh anyone know where i can find this "options" that contain the force login?
#683 [05:01] <krebbit> or update
#684 [05:01] <SimonJ> Not directly source modifyable, I'm not even sure notch planned it to be modualr.
#685 [05:01] <SimonJ> krebbit: when you load up the new client and faced with the log-in screen there are two buttons on the bottom right.
#686 [05:01] <Opeth> krebbit - http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#687 [05:01] <SimonJ> click the higher button and a small window will appear.
#688 [05:02] <Schala_Zeal> well, I suggest he makes it obfuscated if he doesn't want that. Nothing but the license is stopping me from decompiling, just for his info.
#689 [05:02] <Schala_Zeal> and I'm not one to do shady weaseling
#690 [05:02] <Opeth> Why not just turn sounds off then?
#691 [05:02] <Opeth> or play in Peaceful
#692 [05:03] <krebbit> lol hey its working...
#693 [05:03] <Schala_Zeal> I play in peaceful.... but there are sounds I do enjoy
#694 [05:03] <krebbit> i feel like a retard now
#695 [05:03] <krebbit> but thanks
#696 [05:04] <Schala_Zeal> I like how the sound of cutting leaves off a tree sounds like you're punching someone in the face for example
#697 [05:04] <mib_8pfc7h> Ok I re downloaded minecraft and the .minecraft folder in appdata/roaming still is not there, what do I do?
#698 [05:05] <SimonJ> just a moment mib_8pfc7h
#699 [05:05] <mib_8pfc7h> ok
#700 [05:05] <Opeth> No problem krebbit.
#701 [05:06] <SimonJ> mib_8pfc7h: First off try pressing Win+R and typing in %appdata% alternativly go into comuter setting and "Enable hidden folders"
#702 [05:07] <mib_8pfc7h> Ooooo ty very Much
#703 [05:07] <SimonJ> By default your appdata folder is hidden.
#704 [05:08] <mib_8pfc7h> Thanks that makes me uber happy
#705 [05:08] <SimonJ> 2 secs, i'll find out how to show hidden folders.
#706 [05:08] <mib_8pfc7h> ok
#707 [05:08] <SimonJ> mib_8pfc7h: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Show-hidden-files
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#709 [05:10] <mib_8pfc7h> ty
#710 [05:10] <Schala_Zeal> what are ghasts chanting anyway? it sounds like "hurt me! hurt me!"
#711 [05:10] <Schala_Zeal> aha! here's the one, cave10.ogg
#712 [05:11] <SimonJ> yup
#713 [05:11] <Schala_Zeal> that's what I heard
#714 [05:11] <SimonJ> Cool lossless audio format.
#715 [05:12] <mib_8pfc7h> SimonJ how to I set the link in the minecraft options thing to go to the .minecraft file?
#716 [05:12] <SimonJ> mib_8pfc7h: it automatically does it?
#717 [05:12] <SimonJ> that or please rephrase your question.
#718 [05:13] <mib_8pfc7h> for me when I click the link it does nothing
#719 [05:13] <SimonJ> what link?
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#721 [05:14] <mib_8pfc7h> when you open minecraft and in the first window, above the Login button there is options, in option there is Force Update and the link to the .minecraft file
#722 [05:14] <mib_8pfc7h> when I click the link nothing happens
#723 [05:15] <SimonJ> one moment I'll check my client
#724 [05:15] <SimonJ> Never mind that, I makes a short cut to .minecraft on my desktop.
#725 [05:16] <mib_8pfc7h> ok
#726 [05:16] <SimonJ> actually I made a new toolbar set to a folder and inside that folder is shortcuts.
#727 [05:16] <SimonJ> so I have a bar of shortcuts on the side of my screen.
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#729 [05:18] <mib_8pfc7h> :o
#730 [05:18] <mib_8pfc7h> I'm going to try that out, its a good idea
#731 [05:18] <SimonJ> Want me to show you how?
#732 [05:18] <SimonJ> I'll crank up my screen capture programme if you do.
#733 [05:19] <SimonJ> or I can explain here.
#734 [05:20] <mib_8pfc7h> I know how to make toolbars but ty anyways :)
#735 [05:20] <Schala_Zeal> so in peaceful mode the Nether is no different from regular world, just more lava?
#736 [05:20] <Opeth> Yes.
#737 [05:20] <Schala_Zeal> awesome
#738 [05:21] <Schala_Zeal> that lightstone makes me drool waterfalls
#739 [05:21] <SimonJ> Schala_Zeal: If you hate animals, get the server "client", start it up once, change the config file (add yourself to ops too) and animal free building.
#740 [05:21] <Ethan> Can i have some help from a @?
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#742 [05:22] <SimonJ> Ethan: What you need?
#743 [05:23] <Ethan> Hello
#744 [05:23] <Ethan> Can i go into private?
#745 [05:24] <Ethan> Or PM me
#746 [05:24] <SimonJ> Why do you need it so badly and why be so damned secretive about it?
#747 [05:24] <Opeth> ??> Ethan dont/pm
#748 [05:24] <VoxelHead> Ethan: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
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#750 [05:31] <mib_8pfc7h> Oh my...I seem to be having problems installing the Sinlgeplayercommands mod :/
#751 [05:31] <Opeth> What is your issue?
#752 [05:31] <calatalee> I click on download vs 1.7 but it just... does nothing
#753 [05:31] <calatalee> I'm running mozzilla firefox, with windows 7 it does absolutely nothing
#754 [05:32] <mib_8pfc7h> Opeth were you talking to me?
#755 [05:32] <Opeth> Yes
#756 [05:32] * Opeth sighs
#756 [05:32] <SimonJ> mib_8pfc7h: Deleted META-INF? Are you even looking inside minecraft.jar?
#757 [05:32] * Sqozza faceceilings
#757 [05:32] <Opeth> He left.
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#759 [05:33] <Opeth> Alrighty.
#760 [05:33] <Opeth> Pycler - What issues are you having during installation?
#761 [05:33] <Opeth> The instructions should be easy to follow.
#762 [05:33] <Awesomeness> Sqozza
#763 [05:33] <Pycler> when I drag the files into the mindecraft bin folder, and then run minecraft nothing works
#764 [05:34] <Opeth> Only worldedit.jar goes into /bin
#765 [05:34] <Pycler> I deleted the mete-inf folder and forced an update
#766 [05:34] <Opeth> The .class files and such go into minecraft.jar
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#768 [05:34] <Pycler> ok ty
#769 [05:35] <Pycler> Opeth nothing happens still...
#770 [05:35] <SimonJ> Pycler: A forced update resets the entire BIN folder
#771 [05:35] <Pycler> :/
#772 [05:35] <Opeth> Why are you force updating?
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#774 [05:35] <SimonJ> Forced update is like a last resort if you mess things up HARD
#775 [05:36] <Opeth> Place worldedit.jar in /bin. Open minecraft.jar and add all the class files and delete META-INF.
#776 [05:36] <Opeth> Then you should be good to go.
#777 [05:36] <Pycler> ok trying....
#778 [05:36] <Awesomeness> Opeth, do you know Java
#779 [05:37] <Pycler> nothing happens still...
#780 [05:37] <Awesomeness> Pucler, what are you trying to do?
#781 [05:37] <SimonJ> install singleplayer commands
#782 [05:37] <Pycler> install single player commands
#783 [05:37] <Awesomeness> Okay, uhm,
#784 [05:38] <SimonJ> Everything but the .jar inside the SSP commands folder go into minecraft.jar, remove META-INF, Place JUST the .jar from inside SSP commands into BIN, and you're done.
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#786 [05:38] <SimonJ> well everything else is a .class so you should only have a worldedit.jar left
#787 [05:38] <Opeth> Back in a minute.
#788 [05:38] <Pycler> ok I've redone this 3 times XO
#789 [05:39] <Pycler> Please work...
#790 [05:39] <Opeth> Awesomeness - No, I don't know it.
#791 [05:39] <calatalee> *frowns/nods*
#792 [05:39] <Awesomeness> derp
#793 [05:39] <Opeth> ??> Pycler teamviewer
#794 [05:39] <Pycler> It still wont work :(
#795 [05:39] <VoxelHead> Pycler: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#796 [05:39] <VoxelHead> Pycler: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#797 [05:39] <Pycler> :O
#798 [05:39] <SimonJ> I allready have that installed my end.
#799 [05:40] <calatalee> *nod*
#800 [05:40] <calatalee> Somebody want to try that with my end?
#801 [05:40] <SimonJ> Trust me, it's EXCELLENT for remote assistance, better than microsofts default AND it;s made my Hewlett Packard or "HP" to you hids.
#802 [05:40] <SimonJ> *kids
#803 [05:40] <Pycler> VoxelHead I get all the steps but nothing is working when I go play minecraft
#804 [05:40] <Opeth> Voxel is a bot.
#805 [05:40] <Awesomeness> VoxelHead has no soul.
#806 [05:40] <SimonJ> calatalee: Dominated or subbed?
#807 [05:40] <SimonJ> lol
#808 [05:40] <Awesomeness> Eh, stop ruining my fun.
#809 [05:41] <Opeth> Pycler. You can install teamviewer and let somebody install it for you. You can end their access at any time.
#810 [05:41] <Opeth> Although I'm not sure who is worth trust to do it.
#811 [05:41] <Opeth> I'm busy for the next few minutes.
#812 [05:41] <SimonJ> Pycler: If it's installed you may not see an IMMIDIATE change, try using /health infinite
#813 [05:41] <SimonJ> Pycler: if it didn't work, it wasn't installed
#814 [05:42] <calatalee> http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj52/Passion-Struck/downloadMC.jpg
#815 [05:42] <Awesomeness> I could help him, but I'm watching anime. Sorry.
#816 [05:42] <calatalee> Does nothing for me
#817 [05:42] <Pycler> whats health infinite?
#818 [05:43] <SimonJ> it's a command, from singleplayer commands to be unkillable
#819 [05:43] <SimonJ> essentially, you just have so much health you don't really know what to do with it
#820 [05:43] <SimonJ> calatalee: How many times as notch actually put in "removed herobrine" into the patch notes?
#821 [05:44] <calatalee> I don't know. Today was the first day i've ever heard of MC
#822 [05:44] <Pycler> simonj do you have skype, I could show you what I am doing while downloading
#823 [05:44] <SimonJ> Pycler: Ok, Simonjacobs57 is my skype name
#824 [05:45] <Pycler> ok
#825 [05:45] <SimonJ> starting it up now
#826 [05:45] <Pycler> sent invite
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#828 [05:47] <SimonJ> ok
#829 [05:47] <SimonJ> Skype is updating or something
#830 [05:47] <Pycler> ok
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#832 [05:51] <calatalee> Please excuse me, but i have that stuff. Skype, TV, etc.
#833 [05:51] <calatalee> I have a paid, legitimate account.
#834 [05:51] <calatalee> And it just won't DL for me
#835 [05:51] <Opeth|Semi-AFK> !paid calatalee
#836 [05:52] <calatalee> Oh this is a legitimate account
#837 [05:52] <calatalee> Indeed
#838 [05:52] <Opeth|Semi-AFK> Minecraft tells me no.
#839 [05:52] <calatalee> That's freaking insulting you'd call me a liar.
#840 [05:52] <Opeth|Semi-AFK> http://www.minecraft.net/haspaid.jsp?user=calatalee
#841 [05:52] <calatalee> Is THAT the problem?
#842 [05:53] <calatalee> Then i'll take it up with THEM
#843 [05:53] <Opeth|Semi-AFK> I can download perfectly fine without being logged in.
#844 [05:53] <Opeth|Semi-AFK> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
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#846 [05:54] <Opeth> Meh
#847 [05:54] <Awesomeness> Opeth, who are you btw
#848 [05:55] <Awesomeness> I haven't seen you around
#849 [05:55] <Opeth> I get around.
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#851 [05:57] <xarcus> I can't take a screen shot?
#852 [05:57] <xarcus> Hey, you all say what you just said to... catalle or whatever.
#853 [05:58] <Awesomeness> You press F2 for a screenshot ingame.
#854 [05:58] <xarcus> About how my account is not legitiamate.
#855 [05:58] <Awesomeness> What? What's your Minecraft username?
#856 [05:58] <xarcus> I need precisely what you guys said because none of the text is here. I've exited, and then come back again.
#857 [05:59] <Awesomeness> What's your Minecraft username?
#858 [05:59] <xarcus> My username is Unitedwestand and i'm not going to give you a password, because frankly, after your responses to me prior? I don't think YOU guys are legit.
#859 [06:00] <Awesomeness> I don't need your password, and..
#860 [06:00] <Awesomeness> ??> xarcus attitude
#861 [06:00] <VoxelHead> xarcus: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#862 [06:00] <VoxelHead> xarcus: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-proiority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#863 [06:00] <Awesomeness> !Paid Unitedwestand
#864 [06:00] <Awesomeness> Okay, what is the problem?
#865 [06:00] <xarcus> They get the respect they dole out.
#866 [06:00] <Awesomeness> Well, you can leave, if you are going to be a ass.
#867 [06:00] <xarcus> http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj52/Passion-Struck/downloadMC.jpg This does not work
#868 [06:00] <Awesomeness> I don't really care what other helpers said.
#869 [06:01] <Awesomeness> How does it not work?
#870 [06:01] <xarcus> It does nothing.
#871 [06:01] <xarcus> I cannot download.
#872 [06:01] <Awesomeness> ..
#873 [06:01] <m0nk> you shouldnt press there. besides thats a tumbler page
#874 [06:01] <xarcus> And i will leave. I just need you guys to say my accounts not legit.
#875 [06:01] <Awesomeness> That's a blog post of the updates.
#876 [06:01] <xarcus> So i can make a formal complaint.
#877 [06:01] <Opeth> Minecraft forum username is Opeth. In-game is Dxai
#878 [06:02] <Awesomeness> xarcus, again, we are here on our own will.
#879 [06:02] <Awesomeness> You can just leave, if you don't like something.
#880 [06:02] <xarcus> I need you to say what you did, though
#881 [06:02] <Awesomeness> If your little brain does not compute a blog post with a update, I can't help.
#882 [06:02] <Awesomeness> Now that you've been rude, help yourself, buddy.
#883 [06:02] <xarcus> Then where's the downloads?
#884 [06:02] * Awesomeness goes back to watching anime
#884 [06:03] <m0nk> downloads to what?
#885 [06:03] <lemon-rev> awesomeness sounds like me yesterday :P
#886 [06:03] <Awesomeness> In Minecraft client -> Options -> Force Update
#887 [06:03] <Awesomeness> Bah, I don't give two faps.
#888 [06:03] <m0nk> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#889 [06:03] <xarcus> I've the exe file, it makes a pop up
#890 [06:03] <xarcus> But i cannot log in because it says: Not Downloaded
#891 [06:03] <Opeth> Quite a few people seem to be getting the problem..
#892 [06:03] <m0nk> then download that. open it. press options press force update. press ok. then login
#893 [06:03] <xarcus> I got to vs. 1.7 ON THE SITE and it does absolutely nothing
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#895 [06:04] <xarcus> I have forced update
#896 [06:04] <Awesomeness> I'm not getting this error, and I'm using my client.
#897 [06:04] <Awesomeness> It has far reach, and so on, I made it for easy building. :P
#898 [06:04] <xarcus> It says WILL FORCE
#899 [06:04] <xarcus> And does nothing
#900 [06:04] <Awesomeness> Click done, and login.
#901 [06:04] <Awesomeness> Derp
#902 [06:04] <m0nk> fattest bee ever in the window. standing while typing to avoid its sting attack ...D:S:S:S:s
#903 [06:04] <xarcus> K did. Login failed: Not downloaded
#904 [06:04] <m0nk> its gone
#905 [06:04] <Awesomeness> Okay, can you login into the website?
#906 [06:05] <xarcus> Yes i can
#907 [06:05] <smerft> so this might sound nooby but this is where u can get help correct??
#908 [06:05] <Awesomeness> And play? http://www.minecraft.net/game/
#909 [06:05] <smerft> any of u run MC on linux (ubuntu11.04)
#910 [06:06] <Awesomeness> My friend does, what's your problem?
#911 [06:06] <smerft> when i log in the screen goes black
#912 [06:06] <Awesomeness> ??> smerft linux/reinst
#913 [06:06] <VoxelHead> smerft: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#914 [06:06] <VoxelHead> smerft: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#915 [06:06] <smerft> i run it with sun-java6-jre and stuff
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#917 [06:07] <Awesomeness> Do it exactly what it said there.
#918 [06:07] <Awesomeness> and redownload, try.
#919 [06:07] <bletch> My minecraft goes black when i launched it can someone help
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#921 [06:07] <Awesomeness> ??> bletch win/reinst
#922 [06:07] <VoxelHead> bletch: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#923 [06:07] <VoxelHead> bletch: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#924 [06:07] <bletch> I have a mac
#925 [06:07] <Awesomeness> >.>
#926 [06:07] <m0nk> lol
#927 [06:07] <Awesomeness> ??> bletch mac/reinst
#928 [06:07] <VoxelHead> bletch: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#929 [06:08] <VoxelHead> bletch: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin folder to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#930 [06:08] <bletch> I didnt buy it
#931 [06:08] <Awesomeness> ...
#932 [06:08] <smerft> ty awesome worked tyvm
#933 [06:08] <bletch> i illegaly download
#934 [06:08] <m0nk> omg
#935 [06:08] <smerft> bye
#936 [06:08] <Awesomeness> You must buy the game. You derp?
#937 [06:08] <bletch> noaahahah
#938 [06:08] <Awesomeness> Y U SO DERP
#939 [06:08] <bletch> faggot
#940 [06:08] * AuBot kicked bletch from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Please keep it civil.)
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#942 [06:08] <bletch> ahahah noob
#943 [06:09] * GreyVulpine kicked bletch from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Buy the game. You cheapskate)
#944 [06:09] <Awesomeness> Kealper, I think he wants a ip ban.
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#946 [06:09] <Awesomeness> Okay, GV. >.>
#947 [06:09] * GreyVulpine kicked bletch from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Buy the game. You cheapskate)
#948 [06:09] <Awesomeness> lol
#949 [06:09] <Awesomeness> He's a troll.
#950 [06:09] <Awesomeness> Probably.
#951 [06:09] <m0nk> uthink?
#952 [06:09] <Awesomeness> Either that, or he is retarded
#953 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> We'll split the difference and say he's both
#954 [06:10] <Awesomeness> :D
#955 [06:10] <Opeth> !paid bletch
#956 [06:10] <Awesomeness> I'm gonna work on my awesomeChat (with the help of Kealper, I'm building a chat program)
#957 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> bletch is a random mibbit name
#958 [06:11] <Opeth> Oh
#959 [06:11] <m0nk> how many downloads of mc total world wide?
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#961 [06:11] <xarcus> http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj52/Passion-Struck/MCFAIL.jpg Force DL is not... doing anything neither
#962 [06:11] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/stats.jsp
#963 [06:12] <Awesomeness> GV: We could do +b *!*@Mibbit, but then #Help would hate us for people bombarding their channel on how to installing mIRC. lmao
#964 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> 10232058 registered users, of which 2727179 (26.65%) have bought[*] the game.
#965 [06:12] <xarcus> Is this the sort of behavior real typical of Help?
#966 [06:12] <xarcus> Bitches, and stuff like that's OK?
#967 [06:12] <xarcus> That's the sort of stuff needs an IP ban
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#969 [06:13] <xarcus> You guys here on your own free will or no... represent the company
#970 [06:13] <xarcus> It's on their site.
#971 [06:13] <xarcus> This place.
#972 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> After your attitude, why should we help?
#973 [06:13] <Awesomeness> xarcus..again
#974 [06:13] <Awesomeness> ??> xarcus attitude
#975 [06:13] <VoxelHead> xarcus: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#976 [06:13] <VoxelHead> xarcus: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-proiority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#977 [06:13] <Awesomeness> Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#978 [06:13] <xarcus> And Mojang backs you guys?
#979 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> Indeed they do.
#980 [06:14] <Awesomeness> Yeah
#981 [06:14] <xarcus> Then watch your freaking language.
#982 [06:14] <xarcus> This is not PG 13+
#983 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> Only person throwing around rude language, is you.
#984 [06:14] <xarcus> I'm not using curse words.
#985 [06:14] <xarcus> That's not a valid statement.
#986 [06:14] <Awesomeness> Oh, I said lmao, did it hurt your feelings? I'm sowwy.
#987 [06:15] <Opeth> I think I know what he is referring to.
#988 [06:15] <Opeth> <Awesomeness> Either that, or he is retarded
#989 [06:15] <xarcus> I've screenshots of you guys using the language.
#990 [06:15] <xarcus> And retarded is an offensible word.
#991 [06:15] <xarcus> It's not PG13
#992 [06:15] <GreyVulpine> Uh-huh...
#993 [06:15] <m0nk> xarcus. do you want to get help?
#994 [06:15] <xarcus> Been trying, is exactly my case.
#995 [06:16] <Awesomeness> xarcus, exactly who are you going to send those screenies to?
#996 [06:16] <m0nk> then what is the problem
#997 [06:16] <xarcus> You guys aren't helping.
#998 [06:16] <Awesomeness> support@mojang.com?
#999 [06:16] <Awesomeness> lol
#1000 [06:16] <xarcus> You're downright insulting
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#1002 [06:16] <Awesomeness> Heh, lemme paste some things.
#1003 [06:16] <xarcus> *nod*
#1004 [06:16] <GreyVulpine> I've been monitoring this channel, the helpers here have been nothing but trying to help you from the beginning.
#1005 [06:16] <Awesomeness> You threaten us with some kind of complaint.
#1006 [06:17] <Awesomeness> Call us useless.
#1007 [06:17] <Awesomeness> and then demand help.
#1008 [06:17] <xarcus> Did not
#1009 [06:17] <GreyVulpine> If you would like, I'll forward the logs to Mojang themselves.
#1010 [06:17] <xarcus> Do
#1011 [06:17] <m0nk> so they can ban you instead?`
#1012 [06:17] <mib_gipocq> hay i have just bought the game but cannot log into the game can anyone give me some help??
#1013 [06:17] <xarcus> For what? Needing assistance?
#1014 [06:17] <Awesomeness> I highly suggest changing it to something specific by saying "/nick (newname)" replacing (newname) with the name you want to use. This makes it easier for us to help you. Thanks!
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#1016 [06:18] <Awesomeness> xarcus: You threatened us, not the other way around.
#1017 [06:18] <xarcus> No, on the contrary.
#1018 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> On the contrary, Leave.
#1019 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> !kb xarcus
#1020 [06:18] * GreyBot kicked xarcus from #minecrafthelp (Reason: <Kicks:691>)
#1021 [06:19] <Awesomeness> <xarcus> My username is Unitedwestand and i'm not going to give you a password, because frankly, after your responses to me prior? I don't think YOU guys are legit.
#1022 [06:19] <m0nk> xarcus was kicked by GreyBot (<Kicks:691>) <--- how many times you kicked him?
#1023 [06:19] <Awesomeness> <xarcus> They get the respect they dole out.
#1024 [06:19] <mib_gipocq> hay i have just bought the game but cannot log into the game can anyone give me some help??
#1025 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_gipocq - What's the issue?
#1026 [06:19] <Awesomeness> <xarcus> And i will leave. I just need you guys to say my accounts not legit.
#1027 [06:19] <Awesomeness> <Awesomeness> That's a blog post of the updates.
#1028 [06:19] <Awesomeness> <xarcus> So i can make a formal complaint.
#1029 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Awesomeness - You can stop now
#1030 [06:19] <Awesomeness> Yeah, I was scrolled up
#1031 [06:19] <mib_gipocq> i cannot log in to the game
#1032 [06:19] <m0nk> is there a error message?
#1033 [06:19] <Awesomeness> I highly suggest changing it to something specific by saying "/nick (newname)" replacing (newname) with the name you want to use. This makes it easier for us to help you. Thanks!
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#1035 [06:20] <Opeth> Awesomeness - Might help to name the user first.
#1036 [06:20] <Awesomeness> My script does not currently support that, I am working on it tho.
#1037 [06:20] <Opeth> Hm
#1038 [06:20] <Awesomeness> I try to do it right after someone says something.
#1039 [06:21] <mib_gipocq> no it just says failure to login in then it also says not downloaded at the bottom of that
#1040 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> What does it say to the left of "Not Downloaded"?
#1041 [06:21] <mib_gipocq> nothing
#1042 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> Nothing?
#1043 [06:22] <mib_gipocq> it dosen't say anymore
#1044 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> Does it say Login Failed, or Can't Connect to Minecraft.net"
#1045 [06:23] <mib_gipocq> login failed
#1046 [06:24] <GreyVulpine> Then, your username/password is incorrect. Try resetting the password using: http://www.minecraft.net/forgotpass.jsp
#1047 [06:24] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're only using letters and numbers in the password
#1048 [06:24] <mib_gipocq> i have reset my password but it still says that
#1049 [06:25] <Awesomeness> mib_gipocq, what is your Minecraft username?
#1050 [06:25] <GreyVulpine> Did you use the password given to you in the email?
#1051 [06:25] <mib_gipocq> yes
#1052 [06:25] <Awesomeness> You just, just because I don't have a gold star, or w/e, doesn't mean I'm not trustworthy.
#1053 [06:25] <Awesomeness> ffs.
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#1055 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_gipocq - Are you able to log into minecraft.net via the browser?
#1056 [06:26] <GreyVulpine> mib_gipocq - If so, try manually typing in the password again that you get from the password recovery email again
#1057 [06:26] <mib_gipocq> yes i can log in to there website but not the game
#1058 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> You're retyping in the password, right? Not depending on the saved password?
#1059 [06:28] <mib_gipocq> yes i retype the password everytime it only saves the username not the password
#1060 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_gipocq - Did you reset the password to something else, or did you use the password straight from the email?
#1061 [06:29] <mib_gipocq> no i changed it
#1062 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_gipocq - Try logging into the minecraft.net website, go to the profile page, and change your password there
#1063 [06:29] <mib_gipocq> to a different word
#1064 [06:29] <mib_gipocq> okay ill try that
#1065 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> Try it again, choose a simplier passsword, see if it works then
#1066 [06:29] <Awesomeness> mib_gipocq, what is your Minecraft username?
#1067 [06:31] <mib_gipocq> no its still not working
#1068 [06:31] <mib_gipocq> no its still not working
#1069 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_gipocq - Are you only using letters and numbers?
#1070 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> There's no special characters in the password, right?
#1071 [06:31] <mib_gipocq> yes
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#1073 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the launcher you get from minecraft.net?
#1074 [06:33] <mib_gipocq> yes i download it after i paid for it
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#1076 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Could you do this:
#1077 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_gipocq win/hosts
#1078 [06:33] <VoxelHead> mib_gipocq: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1079 [06:33] <VoxelHead> mib_gipocq: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1080 [06:34] <mib_gipocq> i do not have a windows key i am on a mac 0S
#1081 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Rats, um.
#1082 [06:35] <Awesomeness> *OS X
#1083 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_gipocq mac/hosts
#1084 [06:35] <Awesomeness> lol gv.
#1085 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_gipocq osx/hosts
#1086 [06:35] <Awesomeness> lmao
#1087 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> There's an entry for that..
#1088 [06:35] <Awesomeness> ??> a os x/hosts
#1089 [06:36] <Awesomeness> ??> lol macintosh/hosts
#1090 [06:36] <Opeth> I see no entry in the index
#1091 [06:36] <Opeth> ?? mac/permissions
#1092 [06:36] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1093 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> That's not it..
#1094 [06:36] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1095 [06:36] <Opeth> Hm
#1096 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> mib_gipocq - Could you go to your Finder, open up Terminal using it, and type in: cat /etc/hosts
#1097 [06:37] <Awesomeness> Where's Scott when you need him, he uses a Mac, lol.
#1098 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> Copy the output of that, and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#1099 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the address to it
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#1101 [06:37] <SimonJ> Damn straight pastebin
#1102 [06:38] <Opeth> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/441690-minecraft-wont-work-for-me-help-plz/
#1103 [06:38] * Opeth coughs
#1103 [06:38] <Awesomeness> ?
#1104 [06:40] <mib_gipocq> none of those worked
#1105 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_gipocq - Could you delete the launcher, and redownload it from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
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#1107 [06:41] <mib_gipocq> okay i try that :(
#1108 [06:43] <mib_gipocq> nope still didn't work
#1109 [06:43] <Awesomeness> Answer my question, what is your Minecraft Username?
#1110 [06:43] <mib_gipocq> why do you want to know
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#1112 [06:43] <Awesomeness> Because, now tell me.
#1113 [06:44] <mib_gipocq> why do you want to know
#1114 [06:44] <Awesomeness> Because you need help, and I need to know what is your username.
#1115 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_gipocq - You said you had the client remember your username, right? Could you retype in the username by hand?
#1116 [06:44] <mib_gipocq> okay
#1117 [06:44] <m0nk> does anyone know if there is a steam irc channel?
#1118 [06:45] <Awesomeness> uhm
#1119 [06:45] <Awesomeness> no
#1120 [06:45] <Awesomeness> but I know #tf2 exists. :D
#1121 [06:45] <m0nk> hmm.
#1122 [06:45] <mib_gipocq> no that didn't work
#1123 [06:46] <Awesomeness> What is the username you purchased Minecraft with?
#1124 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_gipocq - Has minecraft worked at all for you?
#1125 [06:47] <mib_gipocq> i did have the free SP version and that worked
#1126 [06:47] <Awesomeness> free SP version?
#1127 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Free.. sp version.
#1128 [06:47] <Awesomeness> There's a free version?
#1129 [06:47] <Opeth> You mean the weekend when Minecraft Alpha was temporarily free?
#1130 [06:48] <mib_gipocq> i m not sure my mate gave it to me
#1131 [06:48] <Awesomeness> oh ffs.
#1132 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> That would be a no
#1133 [06:48] <Awesomeness> I don't feel like helping anymore.
#1134 [06:48] <Awesomeness> You pirated the game.
#1135 [06:48] <Awesomeness> Just have the balls to say it, seriously.
#1136 [06:49] <mib_gipocq> if i delete that game would it might work
#1137 [06:49] <Opeth> mib_gipocq - http://www.minecraft.net/prepurchase.jsp
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#1139 [06:50] <Awesomeness> mib_gipocq, have you BOUGHT the game?
#1140 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Please try deleting all traces of the game from your system. Delete the launcher, delete the "free" minecraftsp app, go to ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft and delete everything there.
#1141 [06:50] <mib_gipocq> i have already bought the pid version
#1142 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Then try redownloading the client, fresh from http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
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#1144 [06:50] <mib_gipocq> okay
#1145 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> There's still the matter of the hosts file.. but we'll start with that
#1146 [06:53] <mib_gipocq> whats the hosts file
#1147 [06:53] <Awesomeness> Okay, GreyVulpine, I wish you luck.
#1148 [06:53] <Awesomeness> I must work on my chat now.
#1149 [06:54] <mib_gipocq> i redownload the game and now the is nothin in my minecraft folder
#1150 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> Still getting login failed?
#1151 [06:55] <mib_gipocq> yer :(
#1152 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Alright, go up to your finder, go to the Terminal using it. At the terminal, type in: cat /etc/hosts
#1153 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Do you see any entries there for minecraft.net?
#1154 [06:57] <mib_gipocq> no it says no such file in directory
#1155 [06:57] <mib_gipocq> sorry it says no such file or directory
#1156 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> There.. sin't?
#1157 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> er, isn't?
#1158 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> You're typing in: cat /etc/hosts?
#1159 [06:58] <mib_gipocq> no nothing come up for minecraft
#1160 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> could you type in: ping login.minecraft.net
#1161 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Tell me what the ip address you get back is?
#1162 [07:00] <mib_gipocq> type that into where
#1163 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Terminal
#1164 [07:02] <mib_gipocq> PING login.minecraft.net (50.17.234.159): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 50.17.234.159: icmp_seq=0 ttl=42 time=282.519 ms 64 bytes from 50.17.234.159: icmp_seq=1 ttl=42 time=511.321 ms 64 bytes from 50.17.234.159: icmp_seq=2 ttl=42 time=432.788 ms 64 bytes from 50.17.234.159: icmp_seq=3 ttl=42 time=354.440 ms 64 bytes from 50.17.234.159: icmp_seq=4 ttl=42 time=2
#1165 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. give me a few minutes..
#1166 [07:05] <mib_gipocq> okay take your time i just want it to work thank you for your help
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#1168 [07:11] <mib_gipocq> hang i think i got it to work i created a new account then loaded ti on that and now it works thanks for your help !!!!
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#1170 [07:17] <chris> I just purchased minecraft and I cant get it to run, please PM me if you can help.
#1171 [07:17] <Opeth> What OS are you running and what errors are you getting?
#1172 [07:18] <chris> I am running windows vista
#1173 [07:18] <Opeth> Are you able to execute the minecraft.exe file?
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#1175 [07:19] <chris> I downloaded the EXE and when I try to log in it says "can't connect to minecraft.net" and under 'play offline' it says in parenthesis (not downloaded)
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#1177 [07:20] <chris> at the top in the grey area it also says "<html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect</center></font></body></html>"
#1178 [07:20] <xZACKK> hey can sum1 gimmie a hand with ym inecraft plz
#1179 [07:20] <xZACKK> my minecraft*
#1180 [07:21] <Opeth> ??> chris win/reinst
#1181 [07:21] <VoxelHead> chris: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1182 [07:21] <VoxelHead> chris: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1183 [07:21] <Opeth> xZACKK - What is your problem?
#1184 [07:22] <xZACKK> i try to log in and says cannot connect then underneath the re-try it says not downloaded
#1185 [07:22] <Opeth> Follow what was just said above if you are running Windows OS.
#1186 [07:22] <chris> that folder is empty
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#1188 [07:23] <xZACKK> okies.. ill try it now
#1189 [07:23] <chris> I just downloaded the exe file, I have never run minecraft before today.
#1190 [07:23] <TheNytangel> My gosh, that was the worst nightmare ever..
#1191 [07:23] <Opeth> Ah
#1192 [07:23] <Awesomeness> lol, I love this.
#1193 [07:24] <Awesomeness> I'm coding in Java, and no errors so far.
#1194 [07:24] <Awesomeness> :D
#1195 [07:24] <Awesomeness> like a boss.
#1196 [07:24] <TheNytangel> Awesomeness, when I did that, somehow my first girlfriend was Anna or something..
#1197 [07:24] <chris> Is there a file I can download that will allow me to install the game?
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#1199 [07:24] <TheNytangel> Because I was copying what the tutorial maker did :P
#1200 [07:24] <Awesomeness> I'm not using a tutorial
#1201 [07:24] <Opeth> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1202 [07:24] <Awesomeness> just coding based on what I know
#1203 [07:25] <TheNytangel> import java.util.Scanner?
#1204 [07:25] <Awesomeness> fontrenderer.drawStringWithShadow((new StringBuilder()).append("§aAwesome's Building Client§f (").append(mc.debug).append("x: ").append(mc.thePlayer.posX).append("y: ").append(mc.thePlayer.posY).append("z: ").append(mc.thePlayer.posZ).append
#1205 [07:25] <Awesomeness> (")").toString(), 2, 2, 0xffffff);
#1206 [07:25] <Awesomeness> adjusted the mcdebug.
#1207 [07:26] <xZACKK> Opeth
#1208 [07:27] <xZACKK> when i open the &appdata& in run
#1209 [07:27] <xZACKK> it says open with... why?
#1210 [07:27] <Opeth> %appdata% not &appdata&
#1211 [07:27] <xZACKK> well yea i did % soz lol
#1212 [07:27] <xZACKK> %AppData%
#1213 [07:28] <Opeth> Hmm
#1214 [07:28] <xZACKK> shuld it ocme up with the Open with?
#1215 [07:28] <xZACKK> im using Windows 7 on ym Compaq laptop
#1216 [07:29] <xZACKK> and this is the first time ive ever tried to play minecraft
#1217 [07:29] <xZACKK> just bought the game
#1218 [07:30] <chris> Guys, it still doesn't work.
#1219 [07:31] <chris> I got the .exe but the .minecraft file is completely empty
#1220 [07:31] <chris> I try to log in but nothing happens.
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#1222 [07:32] <Awesomeness> GV: What was the date for the Minecraft Modding API?
#1223 [07:33] <Daumen> My friend cant connect to www.minecraft.net :< is this a port forwarding issue or is there any other explanation? I tried to open his ports up but that Netgear Option window is so confusing :< plx help
#1224 [07:33] <Opeth> Is he running Windows?
#1225 [07:33] <Daumen> Windows XP
#1226 [07:34] <xZACKK> so... no help for me?
#1227 [07:34] <Opeth> ??> Daumen win/hosts
#1228 [07:34] <VoxelHead> Daumen: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1229 [07:34] <VoxelHead> Daumen: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1230 [07:34] <Opeth> xZACKK - I'm looking for info
#1231 [07:34] <Opeth> Give me a few minutes.
#1232 [07:35] <xZACKK> orright thanks mate
#1233 [07:36] <xZACKK> could it be something to do with my firewall? im using Bullguard
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#1235 [07:37] <Daumen> VoxelHead , Shall i Copypaste it in this chat?
#1236 [07:37] <Daumen> will be kinda long
#1237 [07:37] <Daumen> and it will be kinda german ;D
#1238 [07:39] <Daumen> # Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp. # # Dies ist eine HOSTS-Beispieldatei, die von Microsoft TCP/IP # für Windows 2000 verwendet wird. # # Diese Datei enthält die Zuordnungen der IP-Adressen zu Hostnamen. # Jeder Eintrag muss in einer eigenen Zeile stehen. Die IP- # Adresse sollte in der ersten Spalte gefolgt vom zugehörigen # Hostnamen stehen. # Die IP
#1239 [07:39] <Daumen> thats the entry
#1240 [07:39] <Daumen> part of it
#1241 [07:39] <Daumen> # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # Quellserver # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x-Clienthost 127.0.0.1 localhost
#1242 [07:39] <Daumen> i think thats the important part
#1243 [07:39] <Daumen> wtf
#1244 [07:40] <Opeth> Hm
#1245 [07:40] <Opeth> This is on your friends computer?
#1246 [07:40] <Daumen> yes
#1247 [07:40] <Daumen> im using teamviewer to see his files
#1248 [07:41] <Daumen> i can operate his computer
#1249 [07:41] <Daumen> but the text says something about "this is an example"
#1250 [07:41] <Opeth> Press WIN+R keys, type in cmd, then type: ping minecraft.net
#1251 [07:41] <Opeth> And paste the results
#1252 [07:41] <Daumen> as in "For example: # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # Quellserver # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x-Clienthost 127.0.0.1 localhost "
#1253 [07:42] <Daumen> it worked
#1254 [07:42] <Daumen> he can ping minecraft.net
#1255 [07:42] <Daumen> But the Minecraft Launcher cant connect
#1256 [07:43] <Opeth> Any errors occuring when running the launcher?
#1257 [07:43] <xZACKK> no luck Opeth?
#1258 [07:44] <Daumen> No errors
#1259 [07:44] <Daumen> just when logging in
#1260 [07:44] <Daumen> "Cant connect to minecraft.net"
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#1262 [07:45] <PeterT> Can I get some help with minecraft mac?
#1263 [07:45] <xZACKK> thts the same as mine Daumen
#1264 [07:45] <xZACKK> ive the same problem
#1265 [07:45] <Opeth> ??> Daumen win/reinst
#1266 [07:45] <VoxelHead> Daumen: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1267 [07:45] <VoxelHead> Daumen: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1268 [07:45] <Opeth> A lot of people are having this problem and I'm not sure on a definite solution.
#1269 [07:46] <Daumen> hmm
#1270 [07:46] <Daumen> Do i have to keep the saves directory?
#1271 [07:46] <xZACKK> VoxelHead , when i do what you just said.. it comes up wiht an open with file after i type %AppData% in the run
#1272 [07:46] <Daumen> or can I delete it as well?
#1273 [07:47] <Opeth> Can delete it if the saves aren't worth keeping. But you lose all the worlds.
#1274 [07:47] <PeterT> I had to delete the minecraft folder to reinstall minecraft in the application support folder, I re-downloaded but it says that I havn't downloaded it when i try to log in
#1275 [07:47] <Daumen> Opeth. The .minecraft folder was already empty
#1276 [07:47] <Daumen> nothing to delete
#1277 [07:47] <Opeth> Ah..
#1278 [07:47] <PeterT> same
#1279 [07:48] * Opeth sighs.
#1279 [07:48] <PeterT> thats bad is it?
#1280 [07:49] <Daumen> Im scared now :< I think Opeth is now angry
#1281 [07:49] <Opeth> A lot of people are getting this problem, I'm not sure on how to solve it.
#1282 [07:49] <Daumen> :<
#1283 [07:49] <Daumen> damn
#1284 [07:49] <PeterT> obugger
#1285 [07:49] <PeterT> is there a notch shaped search light we
#1286 [07:50] <PeterT> can use to get hs attention?
#1287 [07:53] <Daumen> Opeth, atm i am trying to do some port forwarding, im not sure why it wont rly work atm but can you tell me if this can be the cause of all the problems?
#1288 [07:53] <PeterT> There is no instant fix is there?
#1289 [07:53] <Daumen> Or can I stop trying to battle this crappy Netgear device? ;D
#1290 [07:53] <Opeth> You don't need to mess with that.
#1291 [07:53] <Daumen> ok
#1292 [07:54] <Daumen> More time to fix me english grammar ;X
#1293 [07:54] <Daumen> my*
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#1295 [07:56] <Opeth> To those having the not downloaded error
#1296 [07:56] <Opeth> Can you try logging in through this: http://www.minecraft.net/game/
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#1298 [07:57] <PeterT> Oh, sweet jesus, I was entering my use
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#1300 [07:58] <PeterT> my email adress not my username
#1301 [07:58] <PeterT> sorry to bother
#1302 [07:58] <Opeth> One down. No problem.
#1303 [08:00] <xZACKK> yea illhave to paly in browser.. thnx anyway mate
#1304 [08:00] <Daumen> Still have a problem X
#1305 [08:00] <Daumen> :X
#1306 [08:00] <xZACKK> play*
#1307 [08:00] <Opeth> Hm...
#1308 [08:00] <Opeth> Daumen, you can't log in through browser?
#1309 [08:01] <Daumen> I am using Teamviewer to remote control his computer, i can log in and it downloaded something(updates)
#1310 [08:01] <Daumen> But now it seems that the browser has frozen
#1311 [08:01] <Daumen> I cant rly tell because my mate is afk xD. When i try to play offline with the Launcher the screen is black
#1312 [08:01] <Opeth> Froze after the update download?
#1313 [08:01] <Opeth> If during, refresh and try again.
#1314 [08:02] <Daumen> yeah, at the "Updating Minecraft - Done Loading" screen
#1315 [08:02] <Daumen> the loading bar is not completely full, nothing happens so far
#1316 [08:02] <Opeth> End it and try again.
#1317 [08:02] <Daumen> tried
#1318 [08:03] <Daumen> I am trying again ...
#1319 [08:04] <Daumen> Ok, now I am at the actual site, but the screen where the game should run is completely white
#1320 [08:04] <Daumen> that is a Java issue I assume?
#1321 [08:04] <Daumen> probably need to update it
#1322 [08:04] <Daumen> right?
#1323 [08:04] <Opeth> Correct
#1324 [08:05] <Opeth> ?? getjava
#1325 [08:05] <VoxelHead> getjava: http://www.java.com/en/download/
#1326 [08:06] <namespaceN-> hey guys, is it just me or since 1.7 everyone can cheat items on my server?
#1327 [08:06] <Daumen> Did you OP anyone?
#1328 [08:06] <namespaceN-> no
#1329 [08:07] <Daumen> Does anyone else had access to your server as an Admin or something?
#1330 [08:07] <namespaceN-> only the person i trust
#1331 [08:07] <m0nk> check the op txt file
#1332 [08:07] <namespaceN-> i checked it
#1333 [08:08] <namespaceN-> so there is no way that cheats are more effective in 1.7 than in 1.6?
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#1337 [08:17] <Daumen> Damn it opeth, it wont work :<
#1338 [08:17] <Daumen> even in the browser
#1339 [08:17] <Daumen> it always crashes
#1340 [08:17] <Daumen> tried 3 different browsers
#1341 [08:17] <Daumen> or it freezes up
#1342 [08:17] <Daumen> at the "Updates complete" screen
#1343 [08:17] <Daumen> I am now a sad panda :<
#1344 [08:18] <TheNytangel> My sister has a panda skin..
#1345 [08:18] <Daumen> ;D
#1346 [08:18] <Daumen> Where do I get skins?
#1347 [08:18] <TheNytangel> Google it..
#1348 [08:18] <Daumen> are they notch related or fanmade?
#1349 [08:18] <Opeth> Fanmade
#1350 [08:18] <Daumen> k
#1351 [08:18] <TheNytangel> Google it >.>
#1352 [08:18] <Daumen> just askin
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#1354 [08:26] <Daumen> Ok my mate is back, he can not play through the browser (because it crashes) and when he tries to play Offline using the Launcher the screen of minecraft turns black
#1355 [08:26] <Daumen> newest Java is installed.
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#1359 [08:30] <namespaceN-> ok guys, do you know smth about dublicating items with pistons and repeaters?
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#1362 [08:35] <TheNytangel> No
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#1364 [08:40] <Daumen> You can make a Cobblestone factory ;D
#1365 [08:41] <Daumen> but thats not duplicating
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#1367 [08:42] <zippity> where do i go to install mods and texture packs and skins? i just got minecraft today
#1368 [08:43] <Chris> Skins is something you'd change from the profile button after signing into the game.
#1369 [08:43] <Chris> When you go into the game, instead of clicking singleplayer or multi, click mods and texture packs
#1370 [08:44] <Chris> Open the folder, and you'd drag the texture pack in there.
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#1372 [08:45] <Chris> For mods go to #risucraft
#1373 [08:46] <TheNytangel> using namespace std;
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#1377 [08:50] <inneedofhelp> i cant run minecaft cuz i don't have pemium account!
#1378 [08:50] <LTNSP123> have u buyed?
#1379 [08:51] <inneedofhelp> no, i haz been cheating notch.
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#1381 [08:51] <b0xxy> ofl
#1382 [08:51] <LTNSP123> its 20$ i buyed but for me the launcher dont want to launch ;(
#1383 [08:51] <mr_sticky> hello
#1384 [08:51] <LTNSP123> hai
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#1387 [08:56] <wikkit> Hello anyone here atm?
#1388 [08:56] <Opeth> Yes
#1389 [08:58] <wikkit> ah good, Ive been having problems getting my game up. I have already bought the game, but I have not recieved a email nor can I start even the single-player game. I bought the pre-purchase beta version 3 days ago.
#1390 [08:59] <wikkit> Is it just the server just being slow or could it be something else?
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#1392 [09:08] <iACE61097> I have a problem starting the game. I just bought it and whenever I open it it goes straight to black as I sign in. I have reinstalled java and got winrar 32 bit
#1393 [09:09] <Opeth> ??> iACE61097 win/reinst
#1394 [09:09] <VoxelHead> iACE61097: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1395 [09:09] <VoxelHead> iACE61097: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1399 [09:26] <mr_boo> i just bought the game and it just doesnt work it goes straight to black the second i sign in. I have even reinstalled java, WINrar 32bit and nothing
#1400 [09:33] <mr_boo> i have also looked at the help section about the black window of death and tried every solution on that and they didnt work
#1401 [09:34] * self_slaughter is away: Sleeping
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#1402 [09:36] <Opeth> ??> mr_boo win/reinst
#1403 [09:36] <VoxelHead> mr_boo: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1404 [09:36] <VoxelHead> mr_boo: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1405 [09:38] <mr_boo> thanks i hope this works
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#1407 [09:40] <mib_ht6h1h> hello
#1408 [09:40] <mib_ht6h1h> i habe
#1409 [09:40] <mib_ht6h1h> *i have a question
#1410 [09:41] <Opeth> Hm?
#1411 [09:42] <mib_ht6h1h> i bought the game but i dont get en email to confirm
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#1413 [09:44] <Opeth> http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1414 [09:44] <mr_boo> i still got nothing
#1415 [09:44] <Opeth> Select: Account > Premium > I bought a premium account > Then fill it in
#1416 [09:45] <helpme> how do you get the game downloaded and working
#1417 [09:45] <Opeth> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1418 [09:45] <mib_ht6h1h> sorry my english isnt the best
#1419 [09:45] <Opeth> Run that .exe file (Windows) and it should install the game.
#1420 [09:46] <mib_ht6h1h> i downloadet but when i would login there is "user not premium"
#1421 [09:46] <Opeth> What is your account name?
#1422 [09:47] <mib_ht6h1h> BiGBuuF
#1423 [09:47] <helpme> i do the login thing and then it closes and i dont know what to do
#1424 [09:47] <Opeth> !paid BiGBuuF
#1425 [09:47] <mib_ht6h1h> lol?
#1426 [09:47] <Opeth> It seems the premium update for the account hasn't taken place yet.
#1427 [09:47] <Opeth> How long ago did you purchase?
#1428 [09:48] <mib_ht6h1h> half hour
#1429 [09:48] <Opeth> helpme - Give me a moment.
#1430 [09:48] <Opeth> Give it a few hours, if you don't get a confirmation then email support@mojang.com
#1431 [09:48] <mib_ht6h1h> how much hours should it take
#1432 [09:49] <Opeth> I'm not certain.
#1433 [09:49] <Opeth> helpme - Have you installed Minecraft?
#1434 [09:50] <helpme> i dont know
#1435 [09:50] <helpme> i click the link
#1436 [09:50] <helpme> press save
#1437 [09:50] <helpme> then run
#1438 [09:50] <helpme> and nothing happens
#1439 [09:51] <Opeth> Right-click and Run as administrator.
#1440 [09:53] <helpme> i just get some long java error message
#1441 [09:54] <Opeth> Could you paste the error message to http://www.pastebin.com and post the link here.
#1442 [09:56] <helpme> there you are
#1443 [09:57] <helpme> its on there
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#1445 [09:57] <Opeth> Post the link here.
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#1447 [09:58] <helpme> http://pastebin.com/y2Kz1BQT
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#1449 [09:58] <Opeth> Have you ever ran minecraft before?
#1450 [09:58] <helpme> nope
#1451 [10:00] <Opeth> ??> helpme > win/dxdiag
#1452 [10:00] <Opeth> ??> helpme win/dxdiag
#1453 [10:00] <VoxelHead> helpme: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1454 [10:00] <VoxelHead> helpme: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1455 [10:01] <Opeth> Actually nevermind.
#1456 [10:01] <Opeth> Upgrade your JVM
#1457 [10:01] <Opeth> http://www.java.com/en/download/
#1458 [10:01] <mr_boo> every time i delete everything and run the game again it just comes back and it still goes to black
#1459 [10:01] <helpme> http://pastebin.com/dTWFjuJM
#1460 [10:02] <Opeth> That was the error again, not dxdiag results.
#1461 [10:02] <Opeth> ??> helpme getjava
#1462 [10:02] <VoxelHead> helpme: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
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#1465 [10:05] <helpme> will it work then?
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#1467 [10:05] <Opeth> Need to find out.
#1468 [10:05] <Opeth> If it doesn't. I'll need to see a copy of your dxdiag.
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#1471 [10:09] <Cam> can someone help me
#1472 [10:10] <Opeth> With?
#1473 [10:11] <Cam> in my minecraft after I play for about five minutes I would start to hit blocks, but they don't go away. I can walk through them and can see through my world down to the lava
#1474 [10:12] <mr_boo> the solution i was given didnt work can someone help me
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#1476 [10:12] <Cam> and if i place a block it won't show it but its still in the way
#1477 [10:12] <Opeth> ??> Cam win/reinst
#1478 [10:12] <VoxelHead> Cam: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1479 [10:12] <mr_boo> my screen goes to black when i sign in and i cant do anything
#1480 [10:12] <VoxelHead> Cam: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1481 [10:14] <Cam> I'm not computerly skilled so y have to walk me through this
#1482 [10:14] <TheNytangel> He just did..
#1483 [10:14] <Cam> ok so where do I go
#1484 [10:14] <TheNytangel> To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1486 [10:15] <mohawk> whenever i try to log in after the latest update, it loads a bit and then just has a black screen. No idea why?
#1487 [10:16] <Opeth> Are you on Windows?
#1488 [10:16] <mohawk> yes windows 7
#1489 [10:16] <Opeth> ??> mohawk win/reinst
#1490 [10:16] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1491 [10:16] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1492 [10:16] <mohawk> ty will try that/
#1493 [10:17] <Cam> ok so delete everything except for the saves folder?
#1494 [10:18] <Opeth> Yes
#1495 [10:18] <Opeth> Then run minecraft.exe again
#1496 [10:19] <mohawk> No luck.
#1497 [10:19] <mr_boo> do u download it again or do you just go to the one that you already have
#1498 [10:20] <mr_boo> because i did that and it didnt work
#1499 [10:20] <Cam> Now I don
#1500 [10:20] <Opeth> mohawk - Are you getting an error message?
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#1502 [10:20] <mohawk> Nothing it downloads some stuff - then a black sceen.
#1503 [10:20] <Opeth> Download link for exe file: http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1504 [10:20] <mohawk> *screen
#1505 [10:20] <Opeth> Hmm...
#1506 [10:20] <Cam> I dont know if this has to do with what I just did or with the update but im not able to get redstone or gold (the only ones I have tried) when I mine it with a cobblestone pick
#1507 [10:20] <mohawk> it was working right before the update.
#1508 [10:21] <Opeth> Redstone, gold, diamond only work with a steel/diamond pick.
#1509 [10:21] <Cam> ok I thought that might be a problem, thanks
#1510 [10:22] <mohawk> I tried from there, still no luck.
#1511 [10:22] <mib_gfnxax> i have the same problem as mohawk
#1512 [10:22] <Opeth> Try updating your JVM
#1513 [10:22] <Opeth> ?? getjava
#1514 [10:22] <VoxelHead> getjava: http://www.java.com/en/download/
#1515 [10:22] <mr_boo> me too
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#1517 [10:23] <mib_gfnxax> i already have java
#1518 [10:23] <mohawk> already did that today, but ill do again anyway..
#1519 [10:23] <Cam> sorry for all the questions but this is my last one. This is probably my computers fault but my minecraft also lags so much after I play it for only a couple minutes.
#1520 [10:23] <mr_boo> i have java
#1521 [10:23] <mohawk> yup it says i have the latest java.
#1522 [10:23] <Cam> @mohawk is your drivers updated
#1523 [10:24] <mib_gfnxax> im in the exact same position as mohawk
#1524 [10:24] <mr_boo> me too
#1525 [10:24] <mohawk> As far as i know its all as good as i can get it, how would i check?
#1526 [10:24] <Opeth> So all of you are having the game blackscreen after load?
#1527 [10:24] <mib_gfnxax> yes
#1528 [10:24] <mohawk> yes
#1529 [10:24] <Cam> Do you have windows?
#1530 [10:25] <mib_gfnxax> and an error message
#1531 [10:25] <mohawk> no error message for me
#1532 [10:25] <mr_boo> me neither
#1533 [10:25] <Opeth> ??> mib_gfnxax pastebin
#1534 [10:25] <VoxelHead> mib_gfnxax: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you do, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1535 [10:25] <Opeth> Paste the error there.
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#1537 [10:26] <mohawk> So does anyone know if this is a common or what?
#1538 [10:26] <Opeth> Well I've had over a dozen people this morning ask about it.
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#1540 [10:26] <mib_gfnxax> http://pastebin.com/bZcgxZvM
#1541 [10:26] <Opeth> I still haven't found a solution.
#1542 [10:26] <Opeth> Hm, as I expected.
#1543 [10:27] <mohawk> Mr. Bond...
#1544 [10:27] <mr_boo> so i guess we just wasted money seeing that the only way to use it now is if we buy a computer
#1545 [10:28] <mohawk> What do you mean by that?
#1546 [10:28] <Opeth> Something is possibly preventing JavaVM from running but I'm not certain.
#1547 [10:29] <mr_boo> well if its not working its obviously the computer mine is from like 2003
#1548 [10:29] <mohawk> mines a fairly recent and very nice laptop.
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#1550 [10:29] <mib_gfnxax> same
#1551 [10:30] <mohawk> It's just annoying - it was one good game my laptop could actually run.. specially as there's jack all releasing on xbox at the moment :/
#1552 [10:30] <awinee> Hello anyone around that might be able to help with a "permission denied" problem?
#1553 [10:30] <mr_boo> thats weird to see a laptop do that my friend just installed java again and it worked
#1554 [10:32] <awinee> java.io.FileNotFoundException: ./world/session.lock (Permission denied) < I am getting this with craftbukkit.jar I tried changing permissions for the actuall file but it's still not working
#1555 [10:32] <mohawk> Nah java claims to have installed correctly and i haven't changed anything on my laptop except that updat.
#1556 [10:32] <mohawk> @Mr_boo.
#1557 [10:32] <Opeth> ?? gpu/update
#1558 [10:32] <VoxelHead> gpu/update: You probably need to update your video drivers. See gpu/amd, gpu/intel, or gpu/nvidia for links to their respective driver download pages.
#1559 [10:33] <Opeth> Seems the error is possibly due to gpu drivers.
#1560 [10:33] <Opeth> I'd suggest updating your graphics card drivers.
#1561 [10:33] <mr_boo> well i guess i will be taking the buzzsaw to my computer shortly
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#1563 [10:34] <mohawk> how do i know which driver im using, i have genuinely no idea.
#1564 [10:34] <mohawk> ignore that.
#1565 [10:34] <Opeth> Alright
#1566 [10:35] <Opeth> Start > All Programs > Windows Update
#1567 [10:35] <Opeth> Follow the instructions here: http://www.ehow.com/how_5572_upgrade-drivers-video.html
#1568 [10:35] <Opeth> Will help you towards updating your video drivers.
#1569 [10:35] <mr_boo> i did that the other day
#1570 [10:35] <Opeth> Ah bugger.
#1571 [10:35] <mr_boo> the windows update
#1572 [10:35] <mohawk> pha 7 updates... mmm haha
#1573 [10:37] <Opeth> Seems to be a problem with the card/drivers...
#1574 [10:37] <mib_gfnxax> i might just try restarting my computer
#1575 [10:37] <mib_gfnxax> usually works
#1576 [10:38] <mr_boo> doing the windows update again
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#1578 [10:43] <awinee> Anyone any idea?
#1579 [10:43] <mohawk> my updates are taking for ever, but they seem important so hopefully that was the problem
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#1582 [10:49] <mib_7eu1ni> hello
#1583 [10:49] <mib_7eu1ni> ?
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#1588 [10:51] <mib_730j35> i cant seem to run minecraft
#1589 [10:51] <Opeth> Blackscreen after load I take it?
#1590 [10:51] <mib_730j35> yes
#1591 [10:52] <Opeth> Start > All Programs > Windows Update
#1592 [10:52] <Opeth> Run it, get video card drivers updated.
#1593 [10:52] <Opeth> Hopefully do the trick.
#1594 [10:52] <mib_730j35> ok thanks!
#1595 [10:53] <awinee> java.io.FileNotFoundException: ./world/session.lock (Permission denied) - running Craftbukkit, I changed permissions of session.lock to 755 etc but nothing is working - anyone know what permissions i have to put it to to work?
#1596 [10:53] <Opeth> This lobby doesn't really deal with server mods.
#1597 [10:54] <Opeth> Try #risucraft
#1598 [10:54] <jjocke> when I play minecraft on my computer i have purpel lines between every water block
#1599 [10:55] <jjocke> how can i fix that?
#1600 [10:56] <Opeth> Have you attempted to install any texture packs?
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#1604 [10:57] <jjocke> yes but i have tryed to delete them and re downloaded all uppdates and everything
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#1606 [10:58] <Opeth> ??> jjocke win/reinst
#1607 [10:58] <VoxelHead> jjocke: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1608 [10:59] <VoxelHead> jjocke: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1609 [10:59] <jjocke> i'v done that like 3 times
#1610 [11:00] <Opeth> Does it look like this?: http://a.imageshack.us/img535/1755/purplewater.jpg
#1611 [11:00] <Opeth> Go to your graphic card's control panel and restore Anti-Alias settings to the default values.
#1612 [11:01] <Opeth> That will fix it.
#1613 [11:01] <TheNytangel> images hack dot us? :o
#1614 [11:01] <Opeth> image shack wat
#1615 [11:01] <TheNytangel> Oh
#1616 [11:01] <jjocke> yes (btw are you from swe för de vore ganska mycket lättare att skriva på svenska för mig)
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#1618 [11:02] <Opeth> Jag talar inte svenska. Tyvärr
#1619 [11:02] <TheNytangel> Opeth, do you know a website where I can upload a .cur file..?
#1620 [11:03] <Opeth> As storage or what?
#1621 [11:03] <TheNytangel> Like, an image sharing website
#1622 [11:04] <TheNytangel> Or something..
#1623 [11:04] <jjocke> okey but i cant find Anti-Alias in my videocard control panel
#1624 [11:04] <Opeth> It might just be AA
#1625 [11:06] <Opeth> TheNytangel - Sites I searched for that did host .cur/.ani all seem to have become inactive. Just trawl around Google search and forums.
#1626 [11:06] <jjocke> okey
#1627 [11:07] <Opeth> jjocke - What graphic card do you have?
#1628 [11:09] <jjocke> nvidia
#1629 [11:09] <jjocke> something
#1630 [11:11] <jjocke> Geforce 315
#1631 [11:11] <Opeth> Open Nvidia control panel > Manage 3D Settings
#1632 [11:11] <Opeth> Anisotropic filtering: Whatever you like, the higher the better, however this doesn't have much impact on performance on modern video cards.
#1633 [11:11] <Opeth> Antialiasing - Mode: Override any application setting
#1634 [11:11] <Opeth> Antialiasing - Setting: Whatever you like, the higher the better quality, but in general 4x is the greatest practical visual improvement you'll find without sacrificing your frame rate too much.
#1635 [11:11] <Opeth> Antialiasing - Transparency: Requires at least 2x or else blocks will have a purple outline. High once again is better quality, but with an impact to performance.
#1636 [11:11] * Opeth sticks a figure up at AuBot
#1636 [11:12] <Opeth> ;-;
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#1638 [11:12] <Opeth> finger*
#1639 [11:12] <Opeth> I can't even type.
#1640 [11:13] <jjocke> it was on 4x
#1641 [11:14] <Opeth> Chane Transparency to 2x and run Minecraft again
#1642 [11:14] <Opeth> Change*
#1643 [11:14] <jjocke> okey
#1644 [11:17] <jjocke> didn't work
#1645 [11:18] <Opeth> Is there an option to change it to default settings?
#1646 [11:19] <jjocke> no
#1647 [11:20] <Opeth> change anisotropic filtering to 16x
#1648 [11:23] <jjocke> done.. and didn't work
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#1651 [11:25] <Opeth> This is odd.
#1652 [11:25] <jjocke> the thing whit the defult button is that i can chose a program in a list if i chose something like internet explorer i can change the settings to defult (for that program) but i can't do that for minecraft
#1653 [11:25] <m0nk> i just joined this server
#1654 [11:25] <m0nk> DREADCRAFT.DYNDNS.INFO
#1655 [11:25] <m0nk> and im stuck in a other person
#1656 [11:26] <m0nk> and it says you must be logged in to do that
#1657 [11:27] <Opeth> Just /register (password) and you get teleported to the spawn
#1658 [11:27] <m0nk> i didnt see that message the first time
#1659 [11:27] <m0nk> ty
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#1661 [11:31] <jjocke> finally!! it worked : D thank you very much for the help : D
#1662 [11:31] <GhostE_> Hi. ;)
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#1665 [11:31] <GhostE_> I got a little problem over in my server, can anyone assist me?
#1666 [11:32] <Opeth> ENjoy jjocke
#1667 [11:32] <GhostE_> The problem is, that I've recently jailed a player using the /togglejail command
#1668 [11:32] <GhostE_> And I completely forgot to unjail him.
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#1670 [11:32] <GhostE_> The next day, I join in and I cannot relese him.
#1671 [11:33] <GhostE_> So I tried things like restarting the server, reloading it, updating it, etc.
#1672 [11:33] <GhostE_> But nothing is working for me.
#1673 [11:33] <GhostE_> I keep getting 'you cannoy jail this player'
#1674 [11:33] <Opeth> m0nk
#1675 [11:33] <GhostE_> can anyone help?
#1676 [11:33] <Opeth> Delete his .data file
#1677 [11:34] <GhostE_> I'm on a dedicated server
#1678 [11:34] <GhostE_> Can I do that on a command?
#1679 [11:34] <Opeth> Can't access the server files?
#1680 [11:34] <Opeth> View ftp or online file manager?
#1681 [11:34] <GhostE_> I probably can.
#1682 [11:34] <GhostE_> What?
#1683 [11:34] <Opeth> Somewhere around there is a folder/file containing data of players
#1684 [11:34] <Opeth> Simply delete that users name
#1685 [11:34] <Opeth> m0nk
#1686 [11:35] <Opeth> I'd be careful about running pirated minecraft.
#1687 [11:35] <GhostE_> Hmm, Im not 100% sure on how to do that Opeth.
#1688 [11:36] <Opeth> If you want to delete a player from the game, you can remove the player's .dat file. Navigate to the Minecraft home directory, open the map folder, open the player's folder, and delete the
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#1690 [11:36] <Opeth> PLAYERNAME.dat file
#1691 [11:36] <GhostE_> Gotcha
#1692 [11:36] <GhostE_> And that should do it right?
#1693 [11:36] <Opeth> That'll wipe everything about the player having ever joined the server.
#1694 [11:37] <Opeth> So, yes.
#1695 [11:37] <GhostE_> Cool :)
#1696 [11:37] <GhostE_> Thanks
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#1699 [11:39] <wippler> hey. i dont know if i want to buy the game or not. i have registerd to minecraft but it wont let me try out the free version.
#1700 [11:39] * Opeth sighs
#1700 [11:39] <m0nk> OPETH!
#1701 [11:39] <m0nk> !paid m0nk3n
#1702 [11:39] <m0nk> noob
#1703 [11:39] <m0nk> like real real paid for it
#1704 [11:39] <Opeth> You got the server address from viewing the cracked version comments?
#1705 [11:39] <m0nk> yes
#1706 [11:40] <Opeth> wippler - Why won't it let you try it out? - http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp
#1707 [11:40] <Opeth> Remember to allow the Java to run.
#1708 [11:43] <fluid44> yeahh i need help if anyone knows... i check out a zillion forums and they dont help, just bought the game and when i try to log in it says can't connect to minecraft.net, when i try it in browser it freeses at the loading screen ive deleated the game a bunch of times my computer is fully updated FML. lol hlep anyone? please?
#1709 [11:44] <Opeth> A lot of people are having this problem. I've spent quite a while searching for a solution but nothing confirmed.
#1710 [11:44] <Opeth> Try updating your video card drivers.
#1711 [11:44] <Opeth> Start > All Programs > Windows Update
#1712 [11:45] <fluid44> i did but it still doesnt work, i tried it on my friends computer and it works on his but not mine wtf... but his account works on my computer but not my account.. thats what i dont get
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#1715 [11:46] <Opeth> That second past confused me. I'm not entirely certain.
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#1717 [11:47] <fluid44> yeah its wack, his account works on my pc but my own account doesnt work... vise versa and its not my intternet cause were using the same one haha something doesnt want me playing this
#1718 [11:48] <Opeth> I don't even see how that is possible.
#1719 [11:48] <fluid44> i know
#1720 [11:48] <fluid44> fml
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#1722 [11:49] <Jeroid90> Hello, i got a problem. as soon as i play multiplayer or single i cannot destroy or build anything. please help me,
#1723 [11:49] <mib_on0iq1> i downloaded the game onto my desktop but i don't know what software to use to play the game?
#1724 [11:49] <Awesomeness> Jeroid90: What is your Minecraft username?
#1725 [11:49] <Jeroid90> Jeroid900
#1726 [11:50] <Jeroid90> Jeroid90 *
#1727 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> !paid Jeriod90
#1728 [11:50] <Jeroid90> jeroid90 <-- *
#1729 [11:50] <Awesomeness> !Paid Jeroid90
#1730 [11:50] <Awesomeness> Tyteen4a03, please don't.
#1731 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> what
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#1733 [11:50] <Awesomeness> Jeroid, hold down the left mouse button.
#1734 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> I like it :<
#1735 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> popping up for no reason :P
#1736 [11:50] <mib_on0iq1> i need some help
#1737 [11:50] <Awesomeness> Call a doctor.
#1738 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> mib_on0iq1: yes?
#1739 [11:51] <mib_on0iq1> haha
#1740 [11:51] <Jeroid90> mm?
#1741 [11:51] <Awesomeness> Jeroid90: Hold down your mouse button, don't just click.
#1742 [11:51] <mib_on0iq1> i dont know what software to play the game on once its on my desktop
#1743 [11:51] <tyteen4a03> mib_on0iq1: Did you download the .exe?
#1744 [11:51] <mib_on0iq1> ive downloaded the game
#1745 [11:52] <Jeroid90> not sure what u mean with hold down mouse button??
#1746 [11:52] <tyteen4a03> ??> Jeroid90 dontclick
#1747 [11:52] <VoxelHead> Jeroid90: (dontclick) You will have better luck holding down the mouse button. Clicking is for instant interactions like placing blocks and flipping switches. To mine, chop wood, or dig; hold down the mouse button.
#1748 [11:52] <Opeth> mib_on0iq1 - From minecraft.net/download.jsp?
#1749 [11:52] <Jeroid90> wow?
#1750 [11:53] <Awesomeness> Holding your mouse button: in 3 easy steps.
#1751 [11:53] <Awesomeness> 1) Put your finger on the left mouse button.
#1752 [11:53] <Awesomeness> 2) Push it.
#1753 [11:53] <Jeroid90> dude
#1754 [11:53] <Awesomeness> 3) Don't let go.
#1755 [11:53] <Jeroid90> like really.
#1756 [11:53] <mib_on0iq1> ive done that but it asks what software i want to play it on like java, internet etc
#1757 [11:53] <Jeroid90> ur going to awnser that
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#1759 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> mib_on0iq1: Java is required, internet is only required for multiplayer and updating
#1760 [11:54] <Jeroid90> can somebody real help me..
#1761 [11:54] <Awesomeness> I just told you what the fuck to do.
#1762 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> (also playing for the first time)
#1763 [11:54] <Awesomeness> And I'm fake?
#1764 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> Jeroid90: Did you try to hold first?
#1765 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> try another computer and/or mouse
#1766 [11:54] <Jeroid90> are u guys shitting me??
#1767 [11:54] <mib_on0iq1> i click on java but it only says installing java dunno what to do?
#1768 [11:55] <Awesomeness> Jeroid90
#1769 [11:55] <Opeth> ?? getjava
#1770 [11:55] <Awesomeness> ?? attitude Jeroid90
#1771 [11:55] <Jeroid90> im not retarted i know how to build and destroy and create?
#1772 [11:55] <VoxelHead> getjava: http://www.java.com/en/download/
#1773 [11:55] <Awesomeness> ??> Jeroid90 attitude
#1774 [11:55] <VoxelHead> Jeroid90: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1775 [11:55] <VoxelHead> Jeroid90: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-proiority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1776 [11:55] <Jeroid90> im sorry, but i've asked a question and ur awnser was just .. stupid if i can say it that way
#1777 [11:56] <mib_on0iq1> where do i get java from
#1778 [11:56] <Awesomeness> No, you can't say that way.
#1779 [11:56] <Opeth> ?? getjava
#1780 [11:56] <VoxelHead> getjava: http://www.java.com/en/download/
#1781 [11:56] <Awesomeness> Many people think they need to click instead of hold.
#1782 [11:56] <tyteen4a03> Jeroid90: Can you repeat your problem?
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#1784 [11:57] <Jeroid90> if i join ANY multiplayer or join my single player mode. i cannot create. click. chop down. mine. i bassicly cannot destroy anything create or build.
#1785 [11:57] <mib_on0iq1> k installing java now
#1786 [11:57] <Awesomeness> Hold down the left mouse button. :D
#1787 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> Jeroid90: Can you try to get another mouse?
#1788 [11:57] <JayJames> lol
#1789 [11:57] <Opeth> mib_on0iq1 - After you install. Run Minecraft again and it should work fine.
#1790 [11:57] <Jeroid90> sec
#1791 [11:57] <Jeroid90> lemme make a record off this.
#1792 [11:57] <Jeroid90> put it on mc forums
#1793 [11:57] <JayJames> this is halarious
#1794 [11:58] <JayJames> im jsut waiting my turn lol
#1795 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> Jeroid90: Don't mind him, Awesomeness can be mad at times :P
#1796 [11:58] * Opeth sighs.
#1796 [11:58] <Awesomeness> I'm mad?
#1797 [11:58] <Awesomeness> >.>
#1798 [11:58] <mib_on0iq1> k i will try
#1799 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> Awesomeness: Yes you are :D
#1800 [11:58] <Jeroid90> can voxelhead help me or anyone with a golden star
#1801 [11:59] <Awesomeness> Yes, go beg to VoxelHead
#1802 [11:59] <Awesomeness> he'll be happy to help.
#1803 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> Jeroid90: Have you tried another mouse yet?
#1804 [11:59] <Awesomeness> pm him 10 time.s
#1805 [11:59] <Awesomeness> *times.
#1806 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> >.>
#1807 [11:59] <Opeth> ?? dont/bother
#1808 [11:59] <VoxelHead> dont/bother: If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
#1809 [11:59] <TheNytangel> lol
#1810 [11:59] <Jeroid90> OMG
#1811 [11:59] <Awesomeness> Why thanks Opeth.
#1812 [11:59] <Jeroid90> wooow
#1813 [11:59] <Awesomeness> You slighty mad, Jeroid? :)
#1814 [11:59] <Jeroid90> -.-
#1815 [11:59] <TheNytangel> VoxelHead is a bot anyway, it would have done no good to pm him 10 times :)
#1816 [11:59] <JayJames> suck on mah bawls
#1817 [11:59] <Opeth> ?? bot
#1818 [11:59] <VoxelHead> bot: Yes, I'm a bot.
#1819 [12:00] <Jeroid90> ehh anyways
#1820 [12:00] <Opeth> ??> jayjames attitude
#1821 [12:00] <VoxelHead> jayjames: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1822 [12:00] <Jeroid90> il post screenshots on mincraft forums .
#1823 [12:00] <VoxelHead> jayjames: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-proiority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1824 [12:00] <JayJames> PEN
#1825 [12:00] <Awesomeness> Okay, have fun, hon.
#1826 [12:00] <JayJames> 15
#1827 [12:00] <Jeroid90> no..
#1828 [12:00] <Jeroid90> awesome and james
#1829 [12:00] <Jeroid90> and teen
#1830 [12:00] <Jeroid90> just for u3
#1831 [12:01] <TheNytangel> :o
#1832 [12:01] <Jeroid90> ur clearly NOT from mc
#1833 [12:01] <Awesomeness> We're not?
#1834 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> Jeroid90: Our advices in essence: 1. Don't click, hold down the mouse button. 2. Get another mouse and try 3. Disable your anti-virus/security software 4. Get another computer
#1835 [12:01] <Awesomeness> !Paid Ralphie
#1836 [12:01] <Awesomeness> I seem to be from Minecraft.
#1837 [12:01] <Awesomeness> Interesting.
#1838 [12:01] <TheNytangel> No, we aren't Awesomeness, we are volunteers
#1839 [12:01] <JayJames> im here for help and waiting my turn to talk cause there already alot of problem so im just loling
#1840 [12:01] <Awesomeness> Oh, you meant MOJANG.
#1841 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> JayJames: go on
#1842 [12:01] <TheNytangel> ??> JayJames ask
#1843 [12:01] <VoxelHead> JayJames: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1844 [12:01] <Awesomeness> Yes, we are volunteers.
#1845 [12:01] <VoxelHead> JayJames: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1846 [12:01] <Jeroid90> 1. go back to school and learn
#1847 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> Jeroid90: Are you playing Beta or Classic?
#1848 [12:02] <Jeroid90> ehh
#1849 [12:02] <Jeroid90> alright
#1850 [12:02] <Jeroid90> so.
#1851 [12:02] <Jeroid90> im going to wright an e-mail too minecraft
#1852 [12:02] <mib_on0iq1> it says java is already installed but i cant find it anywhere on my computer
#1853 [12:02] <JayJames> ok well my nuts a huge and it hurts my back and i dont know what to do about it
#1854 [12:02] <Jeroid90> including ur names, and ip adresses.
#1855 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> mib_on0iq1: You can just- wait nvm
#1856 [12:02] <TheNytangel> JayJames, go to a doctor
#1857 [12:02] <Opeth> AHAHAHS
#1858 [12:02] <Jeroid90> so hopefully you will get a warning or a mute.
#1859 [12:02] <Opeth> Damn
#1860 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> Jeroid90: /topic
#1861 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> or /topic #minecrafthelp
#1862 [12:03] <Jeroid90> yeah can you shut up for now
#1863 [12:03] <Awesomeness> Rofl, you mad, Jeroid90?
#1864 [12:03] <Jeroid90> im not mad
#1865 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> If you don't wish to follow our advices, it's okay. Just don't ask it in the first place.
#1866 [12:03] <Awesomeness> Sure? YOU NOT MAD, BRO?
#1867 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine?
#1868 [12:03] <Jeroid90> just a shamed people like you are in here ^^
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#1870 [12:03] <Jeroid90> ur advice..
#1871 [12:03] <TheNytangel> Jeroid90, can you pm me your question? :)
#1872 [12:03] <Jeroid90> talking to you. is like talking to a 2 year old
#1873 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> ?? attitude
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#1875 [12:04] <VoxelHead> attitude: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1876 [12:04] <VoxelHead> attitude: In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-proiority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1877 [12:04] <TheNytangel> Jeroid90, people in here don't know how to handle questions like yours apperently..
#1878 [12:04] <Awesomeness> tyteen: sent him that, already.
#1879 [12:04] <Jeroid90> i geuss thats the awnser i was looking for angel.
#1880 [12:04] <Awesomeness> Jeroid, y u so mad, bro?
#1881 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> TheNytangel: He won't follow your advice
#1882 [12:04] <Awesomeness> also y u tyep liek dis?
#1883 [12:05] <TheNytangel> Doesn't have to
#1884 [12:05] <TheNytangel> I just have to tell him the right answer
#1885 [12:05] <Jeroid90> o by the way awesome.
#1886 [12:05] <Awesomeness> That's mah name.
#1887 [12:05] <TheNytangel> So, Jeroid90, wanna pm me your question?
#1888 [12:05] <Jeroid90> ur not even a staff member of mc
#1889 [12:05] <Awesomeness> No shit, sherlock.
#1890 [12:05] <Awesomeness> Noone here is.
#1891 [12:05] <Jeroid90> know whats awesome :)
#1892 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> TheNytangel: if i join ANY multiplayer or join my single player mode. i cannot create. click. chop down. mine. i bassicly cannot destroy anything create or build.
#1893 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> that is the question
#1894 [12:05] <Jeroid90> somthing u did not know
#1895 [12:05] <Jeroid90> ur acting as a staff member
#1896 [12:05] <Jeroid90> awnsering people there questions.
#1897 [12:05] <Jeroid90> i've readed the rules
#1898 [12:05] <Jeroid90> and thats iligel.
#1899 [12:06] <Jeroid90> it says it will have a ban on that
#1900 [12:06] <Awesomeness> LMAO
#1901 [12:06] <Awesomeness> Okay.
#1902 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> Jeroid90: /topic #minecrafthelp
#1903 [12:06] <TheNytangel> Lol....
#1904 [12:06] <JayJames> my nuts
#1905 [12:06] <Awesomeness> Move along now, until I message Kealper on Steam to ban you.
#1906 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine, Kealper?
#1907 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> Awesomeness: great :P
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#1909 [12:07] <JayJames> huge nasty balls
#1910 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> JayJames: >.>
#1911 [12:07] <TheNytangel> tyteen4a03, they need to change the topic from "the core-game made by Mojang" to "Notch"
#1912 [12:07] <Awesomeness> JayJames: It's okay if you are gay, no need to tell us.
#1913 [12:07] <Awesomeness> hemad.
#1914 [12:07] <TheNytangel> Bye Jeroid90
#1915 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> TheNytangel: :P
#1916 [12:08] <TheNytangel> I hope we helped
#1917 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> JayJames: /j #minecraftporn
#1918 [12:08] <TheNytangel> Come back soon!
#1919 [12:08] <Awesomeness> Lmao
#1920 [12:08] <JayJames> ahh alright i was sure i had to specify it damnnnn
#1921 [12:08] <JayJames> HAHAH
#1922 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> We did
#1923 [12:08] <JayJames> minecraftporn lawl
#1924 [12:08] <TheNytangel> Wait.. don't come back.. go QQ to your mom next time..
#1925 [12:08] <Opeth> ...
#1926 [12:08] <Awesomeness> #MineCraftHelp on irc.esper.net - Help and support from community members.
#1927 [12:08] <Awesomeness> Not sure where it says that we said that we are Mojang
#1928 [12:08] <Awesomeness> But okay.
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#1930 [12:08] <JayJames> yeah serious
#1931 [12:09] <devin2> Who could help me i've got a problem with the game
#1932 [12:09] <Awesomeness> What's the problem, Devin?
#1933 [12:09] <Awesomeness> Oh, wait
#1934 [12:09] <Awesomeness> You are that guy
#1935 [12:09] <Awesomeness> Jeroid, your ip
#1936 [12:09] <Awesomeness> lmao
#1937 [12:09] <devin2> :)
#1938 [12:10] <devin2> ur still doing it..
#1939 [12:10] <devin2> really
#1940 [12:10] <Awesomeness> Doing what?
#1941 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> devin2: You can't fool us, seriously.
#1942 [12:10] <TheNytangel> ??> devin2 ask
#1943 [12:10] <VoxelHead> devin2: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1944 [12:10] <VoxelHead> devin2: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1945 [12:10] <Awesomeness> Jeroid: you can go q.q in Minecraftforums, they can't do crap.
#1946 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> TheNytangel: he's Jeroid
#1947 [12:10] <Awesomeness> Nytangel: Devi = Jeroid
#1948 [12:10] <TheNytangel> :) I know
#1949 [12:10] <TheNytangel> I just want him to ask his question again
#1950 [12:11] <devin2> thats no need
#1951 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> TheNytangel: if i join ANY multiplayer or join my single player mode. i cannot create. click. chop down. mine. i bassicly cannot destroy anything create or build.
#1952 [12:11] <Awesomeness> Hold down the left mouse button.
#1953 [12:11] <TheNytangel> Oh, devin2, then go to #mcchatter or whatever that channel is
#1954 [12:11] <TheNytangel> If you just want to chat
#1955 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> or #lobby
#1956 [12:11] <TheNytangel> ^
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#1958 [12:12] <TheNytangel> If you can't figure out how to mash buttons on a keyboard/mouse, then go play a board game or something..
#1959 [12:12] <devin2> ugh
#1960 [12:12] <devin2> 12 year old
#1961 [12:12] <Awesomeness> Is you.
#1962 [12:12] <TheNytangel> I'm 14, thank you very much
#1963 [12:12] <Awesomeness> ^Same. (:
#1964 [12:12] <CelesteA> Aye, I'm 14 as weel
#1965 [12:12] <devin2> i can pick out the 12-15 year olds
#1966 [12:12] <CelesteA> *well
#1967 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> CelesteA: I know, stop elaboating :<
#1968 [12:12] <devin2> just by the way the react and type.
#1969 [12:12] <Awesomeness> Well, Mr. Adult, lrn2holdDownaMousebutton.
#1970 [12:13] <CelesteA> tyteen4a03 shh
#1971 [12:13] <devin2> yup awesome ur cool
#1972 [12:13] <TheNytangel> Yes he is
#1973 [12:13] <Awesomeness> :D
#1974 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> Awesomeness: can you just go and, PM kealper?
#1975 [12:13] <Awesomeness> Alright
#1976 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> 524807F1.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl
#1977 [12:13] <Awesomeness> Oh look, he got scared.
#1978 [12:14] <Awesomeness> Yes, I pmed details.
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#1980 [12:14] <TheNytangel> I think his name was devin
#1981 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> ohai [L]
#1982 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> name doesn't matter
#1983 [12:14] <Awesomeness> Hey L, wanna ban this guy?
#1984 [12:14] <CelesteA> What's wrong with being young may I ask?
#1985 [12:14] <TheNytangel> I know
#1986 [12:14] <Awesomeness> * devin2 (Mibbit@524807F1.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) Quit (Client Quit)
#1987 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> CelesteA: Being young isn't wrong
#1988 [12:14] <TheNytangel> I don't know, CelesteA..
#1989 [12:14] <TheNytangel> Our lives are open books
#1990 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> It's the attitude that sometimes ships with it
#1991 [12:15] <TheNytangel> :P
#1992 [12:15] <CelesteA> Well, I'm going to go back to reading my book
#1993 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> CelesteA: :P
#1994 [12:15] <CelesteA> King Richard III
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#1996 [12:15] <CelesteA> It's good
#1997 [12:16] * tyteen4a03 doesn't like history
#1997 [12:16] <TheNytangel> Biography?
#1998 [12:16] <CelesteA> Shakespeare
#1999 [12:16] <TheNytangel> Eww..
#2000 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> hm
#2001 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> whatever, idc :D
#2002 [12:16] <z> O no
#2003 [12:16] <z> Registered nick
#2004 [12:16] <CelesteA> I happen to like Shakespeare.
#2005 [12:17] <mib_3sulnm> i tried to install modloader for minecraft and now when i try to load in in browser, it says updating minecraft and does not change. i do not know what happend
#2006 [12:17] <TheNytangel> ??> mib_3sulnm win/reinst
#2007 [12:17] <VoxelHead> mib_3sulnm: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2008 [12:17] <VoxelHead> mib_3sulnm: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2009 [12:17] <TheNytangel> At least I imagine you have windows anyway
#2010 [12:17] <TheNytangel> I have 2 windows and a door in my bedroom
#2011 [12:19] <mib_3sulnm> what does delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein mean?
#2012 [12:19] <TheNytangel> Move it to the recycle bin/push the "Del" button
#2013 [12:22] <mib_3sulnm> i went to (minecraft.) and deleted everything that was asscoiated with the mod loader one by one and it still doesnt work.
#2014 [12:23] <TheNytangel> You delete everything except the saves folder
#2015 [12:23] <TheNytangel> And then run minecraft
#2016 [12:25] <TheNytangel> That reminds me..
#2017 [12:25] <TheNytangel> I need to get..
#2018 [12:25] <TheNytangel> >.> I just forgot everything
#2019 [12:26] <TheNytangel> Ah.. MCEdit and get rid of a bad piston in my game so I can play again
#2020 [12:27] <mib_3sulnm> it worked.thank u very much. now can i reinstall my texurepacks and stuff i am not going to mess with modloader lol.
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#2023 [12:28] <madalynn> why won't minecraft classic run?
#2024 [12:28] <Opeth> madalynn - I have no problems accessing it.
#2025 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> maalynn: what happens when you try to run it?
#2026 [12:28] <madalynn> it says i need pixel acceleration
#2027 [12:29] <madalynn> i have windows xp 32 bit
#2028 [12:29] <madalynn> with internet explorer 8
#2029 [12:29] <TheNytangel> mib_3sulnm, I don't know if that was a question.. but yes you can install your texture packs again
#2030 [12:29] <TheNytangel> Oh, bye then
#2031 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> madlynn: Do you have an Intel integrated GPU?
#2032 [12:30] <madalynn> ?
#2033 [12:30] <Morrolan> Awesomeness, tyteen4a03, TheNytangel, you did ask Jeroid90 whether he was trying to build near spawn, before trolling him, right?
#2034 [12:30] <bernard> i cant get the offline version to run
#2035 [12:30] <TheNytangel> But in single player Morrolan
#2036 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> ??> madalynn win/dxdiag
#2037 [12:30] <VoxelHead> madalynn: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2038 [12:30] <VoxelHead> madalynn: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2039 [12:31] <TheNytangel> Morrolan, I don't think there is spawn protection in multiplayer
#2040 [12:31] <Morrolan> Singleplayer you mean? Yea, there wouldn't be any spawn protection there.
#2041 [12:31] <TheNytangel> Morrolan, singleplayer*
#2042 [12:31] <bernard> the problem is i t wont let me press it i can see it though.
#2043 [12:31] <TheNytangel> :P
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#2045 [12:32] <Morrolan> TheNytangel: Well, since he said later that he does know how to build, I'm not too sure. Oh well.
#2046 [12:32] <Morrolan> You really wouldn't have needed to be that rude. ;)
#2047 [12:32] <bernard> i cant get the offline version to run, the problem is it wont let me press it i can see it though.
#2048 [12:32] <TheNytangel> Was I? Or was Awesomeness
#2049 [12:32] <TheNytangel> I was....
#2050 [12:32] <TheNytangel> I feel bad :(
#2051 [12:32] <Morrolan> TheNytangel: No idea, didn't really check who said what, just read over that conversation. Anyway. ;)
#2052 [12:33] <Morrolan> bernard: Did you ever play online?
#2053 [12:33] <madalynn> when i try to play minecraft classic it starts loading and an error pops up saying i need pixel acceleration, so i don't wanna buy the game if it won't work, how do i fix it? write zebra if you answering me
#2054 [12:33] <Morrolan> (Meaning, did you ever log in through the launcher?)
#2055 [12:33] <bernard> no
#2056 [12:33] <oldtopmanserver> madalynn: Update your graphics drivers.
#2057 [12:33] <Morrolan> madalynn: Classic is completely different from Beta. If you're using Windows then you could try out the demo.
#2058 [12:33] <madalynn> i did
#2059 [12:33] <Morrolan> ??> madalynn demo
#2060 [12:33] <VoxelHead> madalynn: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#2061 [12:33] <VoxelHead> madalynn: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#2062 [12:33] <Morrolan> bernard: You did buy the game, right?
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#2065 [12:34] <bernard> im not "premium"
#2066 [12:34] <Morrolan> bernard: So, you didn't buy the game?
#2067 [12:34] <Awesomeness> GV, kindly ban this user * devin2 (Mibbit@524807F1.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) Quit (Client Quit)
#2068 [12:34] <Awesomeness> Thank you.
#2069 [12:34] <bernard> no just download
#2070 [12:34] <Awesomeness> bernard: you must buy the game before you can play it.
#2071 [12:35] <Morrolan> bernard: In this case you won't be able to play it.
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#2073 [12:35] <bernard> i know people that can
#2074 [12:35] <Morrolan> bernard: That's not legally allowed though.
#2075 [12:35] <bernard> they told me to do this
#2076 [12:35] <oldtopmanserver> bernard: Its still piracy.
#2077 [12:36] <tyteen4a03> pixel accle. is the same in beta and classic
#2078 [12:36] <bernard> its off the main site
#2079 [12:36] <bernard> free
#2080 [12:36] <Morrolan> bernard: No, it is NOT free, no matter if you can download it from there or not.
#2081 [12:36] <Awesomeness> No it's not?
#2082 [12:36] <tyteen4a03> bernard: Are you downloading it from worldofminecraft.com?
#2083 [12:36] <tyteen4a03> If so, that's a classic clienyt
#2084 [12:36] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03: Don't they offer a classic client only?
#2085 [12:36] <tyteen4a03> *clienyt
#2086 [12:37] <bernard> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2087 [12:37] <Awesomeness> That's only the launcher.
#2088 [12:37] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03: That one wouldn't spit out a 'user not premium'
#2089 [12:37] <Morrolan> bernard: Yea, you will have to buy the game in order to play it.
#2090 [12:37] <bernard> AHHHHH
#2091 [12:37] <bernard> ok
#2092 [12:37] <bernard> gnome
#2093 [12:38] <madalynn> how do i update my graphic drivers plz help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2094 [12:39] <Awesomeness> lmao
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#2096 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> madalynn - What operating system are you on?
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#2098 [12:40] <madalynn> windows xp
#2099 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Could you please go to your start menu, in the run command, type in: dxdiag
#2100 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> At the dxdiag console, press the "save all information" button, save the file on the desktop. Go to it, open it up, copy everything there to www.pastebin.com, press the submit button, and give us the address
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#2102 [12:41] <Awesomeness> GreyVulpine, please kindly ban * devin2 (Mibbit@524807F1.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) Quit (Client Quit)
#2103 [12:41] <Awesomeness> He went in with 2 different names, and trolled.
#2104 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Why?
#2105 [12:42] <Awesomeness> He also called us stupid, and such
#2106 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> I'll ban them if they come back
#2107 [12:42] <Awesomeness> Okay
#2108 [12:42] <mib_zqs0x7> can anyone help me with the black screen after running minecraft
#2109 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Has it worked before?
#2110 [12:43] <mib_zqs0x7> no i just downloade it today
#2111 [12:43] <Opeth> Been having that asked constantly today Grey, couldn't get a fix.
#2112 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Generally, uninstall/reinstall java, update video drivers
#2113 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, get them to run it as a batch file, like: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#2114 [12:44] <mib_zqs0x7> how do i update my video drivers?
#2115 [12:44] <Opeth> Ah, forgot about the batch part.
#2116 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_zqs0x7 - Go with uninstalling and reinstalling java first
#2117 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> ??> mib_zqs0x7 win/dxdiag
#2118 [12:44] <VoxelHead> mib_zqs0x7: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2119 [12:44] <VoxelHead> mib_zqs0x7: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2120 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> to madalynn too
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#2122 [12:45] <mib_zqs0x7> http://pastebin.com/PT6xkJT0
#2123 [12:46] <madalynn> greyVulpine the adress is http://pastebin.com/uWe6LTDF
#2124 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> madalynn - I'm sorry, that computer's too old to play minecraft.
#2125 [12:47] <madalynn> really?
#2126 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#2127 [12:47] <madalynn> so whats the oldest i need?
#2128 [12:47] <[T]> You only have around 486MB RAM, while more than 1GB is required
#2129 [12:48] <madalynn> whats the oldest model i need? will vista work?
#2130 [12:48] <mib_zqs0x7> so all i have to do is reinstall java?
#2131 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> mib_zqs0x7 - For now.
#2132 [12:48] <mib_zqs0x7> ok thanks
#2133 [12:49] <madalynn> GreyVulpine will windows vista work?
#2134 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> madalynn - I couldn't tell you. I can install any windows operating system on a hunk of junk, and it won't run minecraft.
#2135 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> You need a better computer
#2136 [12:49] <madalynn> will windows 7 work?
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#2139 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> If it's a new computer, yes
#2140 [12:50] <madalynn> so is 1,000mb=1gb?
#2141 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2142 [12:51] <madalynn> than i can delete some stuff and will it work?
#2143 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> Delete what stuff?
#2144 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> Asking me if windows vista or 7 will run minecraft, is like asking if leather upholstry makes a car go faster.
#2145 [12:51] <madalynn> files worth alot of memory and not required
#2146 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> madalynn - Trust me, minecraft requires a lot more memory than what your computer currently has
#2147 [12:52] <madalynn> ok
#2148 [12:52] <madalynn> i'll use windows 7 its brand new
#2149 [12:53] <CelesteA> How do I make a ladder in beta? (Haven't played in a while)
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#2151 [12:54] <Opeth> s_s
#2152 [12:54] <Opeth> sss
#2153 [12:54] <Opeth> s_s
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#2155 [12:54] <Opeth> s = stick
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#2157 [12:54] <Opeth> ;-;
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#2159 [12:55] <Luneth> hello
#2160 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
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#2162 [12:55] <Luneth> when I run minecraft my internet is really slow
#2163 [12:55] <Luneth> I'm on single player and the internet is still slow
#2164 [12:55] <o_O> can anyone tell me why power is going backwards through a repeater?
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#2167 [12:56] <Luneth> like if I was watching a movie online after I login to minecraft the video stops buffering alltogether
#2168 [12:56] <Luneth> anyone?
#2169 [12:57] <mr_fribble> my minecraft said it crashed and gave mr something to email but it wont let me see the whole thing'
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#2171 [12:57] <Opeth> Cute.
#2172 [12:58] <Opeth> Wrong lobby.
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#2177 [13:01] <mermi> hello
#2178 [13:01] <JoeS> So... do I get some help?
#2179 [13:02] <nanotron> JoeS: what's the issue?
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#2181 [13:02] <JoeS> I got a new computer, and the security settings refuse to let me run ActiveX Control from Minecraft
#2182 [13:02] <JoeS> Can
#2183 [13:02] <JoeS> t download it either
#2184 [13:03] <backagain> can anyone help me with the black screen after running minecraft 1.7
#2185 [13:03] <nanotron> I use a Mac but try this... in IE... find the Preferences.. then go to the Privacy option and lower your privacy settings
#2186 [13:03] <nanotron> backagain: I ran into that once. Try upgrading your video drivers.
#2187 [13:03] <backagain> how do i do that?
#2188 [13:04] <nanotron> (on my son's Windows box)
#2189 [13:04] <JoeS> nice try Nano, but no
#2190 [13:04] <nanotron> backagain: do you know what kind of video card you have?
#2191 [13:04] <backagain> i have no idea
#2192 [13:04] <nanotron> JoeS: I wonder if this "new computer" has some anti-virus or other security software that is causing this. Download Firefox and try the download with that.
#2193 [13:05] <nanotron> backagain: XP? Vista? 7?
#2194 [13:05] <backagain> oh right windows 7
#2195 [13:05] <Awesomeness> !isdown
#2196 [13:05] <GreyBot> Awesomeness: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2197 [13:05] <JoeS> I don't see how the new browser would change the security on the computer from stopping it, but it's worth a try
#2198 [13:06] <nanotron> JoeS: Okay, maybe I misunderstood... are you having problems "downloading" Minecraft? or running it?
#2199 [13:06] <JoeS> running active x control, to get it to run
#2200 [13:06] <mermi> hey guys, my buddy and me have been playing for a while, since uploading 1.7.2 my buddy MC crashes out when loading and cant even load using a MC loader.. any suggestions?
#2201 [13:06] <nanotron> backagain: You need to go into your "device manager" and find the graphics adapter.
#2202 [13:06] <JoeS> I guess the button says install, so say it however you like
#2203 [13:07] <nanotron> backagain: here you will find out what kind of video card you are using. alternately, you can right-click the Minecraft.exe and change the compatibility mode to a an older OS. This helped too in my son's case in XP.
#2204 [13:08] <JoeS> firewalls are already off too, so I don't know what's going on
#2205 [13:08] <nanotron> JoeS: Yeah, sounds like your system is being overly protective. Anti-virus?
#2206 [13:08] <JoeS> Microsoft Security Essentials
#2207 [13:08] <nanotron> JoeS: Go in there and disable it if you can.
#2208 [13:09] <nanotron> JoeS: To make a long story short. ;-)
#2209 [13:09] <JoeS> nothing
#2210 [13:10] <JoeS> "Microsoft has blocked this software because the publisher cannot be verified"
#2211 [13:10] <nanotron> JoeS: yep... sounds like MSE needs to be disabled.
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#2213 [13:11] <JoeS> I just did, and it did nothing to change the issue
#2214 [13:11] <nanotron> JoeS: if I had access to a Windows 7 machine I'd be able to find this option.
#2215 [13:11] <JoeS> hence the "nothing" I placed at 12:09, should have made that clearer
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#2217 [13:12] <JoeS> I could add a new rule to my firewall too, but I need to view the IP first, and it won't let me view that either
#2218 [13:12] <JoeS> "This site does not have a certificate. Viewing this information could be harmful, and has been blocked."
#2219 [13:12] <HELPME> when i try to open it on mac a just get the java symbol and the screen freezes...
#2220 [13:13] <HELPME> any help?
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#2222 [13:13] <mermi> I'm not support but are you running the latest version of java?
#2223 [13:13] <JoeS> hmmm, Java
#2224 [13:13] <JoeS> good call
#2225 [13:13] <HELPME> yes, all software is up to date
#2226 [13:13] <nanotron> JoeS: looking at the Settings tab.
#2227 [13:13] <footballidiot> Anyone here to answer a question?
#2228 [13:14] <Opeth> ?? ask
#2229 [13:14] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2230 [13:14] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2231 [13:14] <nanotron> JoeS: "Excluded processes"
#2232 [13:14] <footballidiot> I need help.
#2233 [13:14] <footballidiot> lol
#2234 [13:14] <HELPME> when i try to open it on mac a just get the java symbol and the screen freezes..help
#2235 [13:14] <mermi> my buddy and me have been playing for a while, since uploading 1.7.2 my buddy MC crashes out when loading and cant even load using a MC loader on a previous rar.. any suggestions?
#2236 [13:14] <nanotron> JoeS: Try adding Minecraft.exe or the Java process itself here.
#2237 [13:14] <backagain> it says im using a intel hd graphics video card
#2238 [13:15] <HELPME> when i try to open it on mac a just get the java symbol and the screen freezes... help anyone?
#2239 [13:15] <footballidiot> When I try to download minecraft on my PC it says that the vendor can't be verified and asks me what I want to open the program with. But what do I open it with?
#2240 [13:15] <nanotron> backagain: Hmm.. go into its properties and try to get some detail about its model number, etc.
#2241 [13:15] <JoeS> settings tab under what? Internet options, or under some other window?
#2242 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> ??> mermi win/reinst
#2243 [13:15] <VoxelHead> mermi: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2244 [13:15] <VoxelHead> mermi: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2245 [13:15] <nanotron> backagain: then go to intel's website and look for a driver update.
#2246 [13:15] <Opeth> footballidiot - Are you using this download link?: http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#2247 [13:16] <nanotron> JoeS: in MSE
#2248 [13:16] <JoeS> AH HA
#2249 [13:16] <JoeS> JAVA SOLVES THE PROBLEM
#2250 [13:16] <HELPME> i have java alredy?
#2251 [13:16] <JoeS> thanks for the help :D it works
#2252 [13:16] <JoeS> java magic
#2253 [13:16] <footballidiot> Yeah. That's the second one. But it's not actually downloading on the computer.
#2254 [13:16] <backagain> 8.15.10.2189 is the driver version if that helps
#2255 [13:16] <HELPME> someone help?!?!
#2256 [13:17] <JoeS> Lovely, thanks
#2257 [13:17] <mermi> Thank Voxelhead we'll give it a go, much appricated
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#2259 [13:18] <Awesomeness> VoxelHead has no feelings, don't thank him.
#2260 [13:18] <blinky> when i try to open it on mac a just get the java symbol and the screen freezes...help?
#2261 [13:18] <backagain> 8.15.10.2189 is the driver version if that helps cant find a serial number though
#2262 [13:18] <blinky> when i try to open it on mac a just get the java symbol and the screen freezes...help?
#2263 [13:18] <nanotron> backagain: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Desktop+graphics+controllers&ProductProduct=Intel®+HD+Graphics
#2264 [13:18] <mermi> Ha ha well it worked! thanks again Voxelhead
#2265 [13:19] <Awesomeness> No, he has no feelings.
#2266 [13:19] <Awesomeness> Watch: VoxelHead, I hope you die, you moron.
#2267 [13:19] <mermi> nice
#2268 [13:20] <nanotron> backagain: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20036&ProdId=3231&lang=eng
#2269 [13:20] <nanotron> Installs graphics driver version 15.22.1.2361 (8.15.10.2361) for Intel® integrated graphics.
#2270 [13:20] <footballidiot> Is there a program you can download to play minecraft?
#2271 [13:20] <blinky> COME ON SOMEONE HELP!
#2272 [13:20] <nanotron> backagain: that should be the one
#2273 [13:20] <JoeS> calm down blinky
#2274 [13:20] <JoeS> it's just a game, no need to lose your head
#2275 [13:21] <nanotron> blinky: what's fonzie like? cool... we need to be a like a bunch of fonzies right now
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#2277 [13:21] <backagain> Installs graphics driver version 15.22.1.2361 (8.15.10.2361) for Intel® integrated graphics. thats the info i found on there for you
#2278 [13:21] <nanotron> blinky: which version of OS X are you using?
#2279 [13:21] <blinky> on the classic. i pull it up and it jiusst.... freezes.. version 10.6.8
#2280 [13:22] <tyteen4a03> backagain: Intel Integrated GPU has problems in OpenGL that prevents you from playing MC Launcher version
#2281 [13:22] <backagain> so how do i solve that problem
#2282 [13:22] <tyteen4a03> You can still play in web
#2283 [13:22] <nanotron> blinky: hmm snow leopard provides the latest java... have you tried repairing your permissions lately?
#2284 [13:22] <tyteen4a03> backagain: but launcher will be unavailable on your computer
#2285 [13:23] <blinky> what ya mean? ive ran a software update?
#2286 [13:23] <backagain> so i can play on the web just not offline
#2287 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> yes
#2288 [13:23] <nanotron> backagain: you can try setting your "Compatibility Mode" for Minecraft.exe to "Windows 2000".
#2289 [13:23] <nanotron> backagain: that worked for my son's XP machines once.
#2290 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> nanotron: no, that wouldn't work
#2291 [13:23] <backagain> ok thanks ill give it a go
#2292 [13:23] <footballidiot> Is there anyone to answer a question?
#2293 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> footballidiot: go on
#2294 [13:24] <blinky> nanotron what ya mean? ive ran a software update
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#2296 [13:24] <footballidiot> Is there a program you can download to play minecraft?
#2297 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> footballidiot: check out http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2298 [13:24] <footballidiot> I can only play it on the internet
#2299 [13:24] <nanotron> blinky: Open "Disk Utility" in Applications/Utilities. Run a "Repair Permissions" on your system hard drive.
#2300 [13:25] <nanotron> blinky: You mentioned that you were playing "classic". Did you try a different browser?
#2301 [13:25] <footballidiot> tyteen4a03: I tried that, but my PC is saying that the vendor can't be verified.
#2302 [13:25] <nanotron> footballidiot: Minecraft exists in two forms... A "Classic" version that is essentially a "creative mode" game which runs as a Java applet in your browser and the proper beta version that you download.
#2303 [13:25] <blinky> chrome and safari. neither works
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#2306 [13:26] <nanotron> blinky: Run the repair permissions.
#2307 [13:26] <footballidiot> I have bought the game and I'm trying to download it.
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#2309 [13:26] <blinky> nanotron where?
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#2311 [13:26] <Opeth> !Paid Drithric
#2312 [13:27] <nanotron> footballidiot: Seems Windows has a lot of overly sensitive security software causing this.
#2313 [13:27] <Hallicarnassuss> But have you paid, Opeth?
#2314 [13:27] <Adelta11> Hi everyone. I have literally just paid for the game and can play in the web browser, but when I try to run it from my pc, I log in and just get a black screen? can someone help please? :)
#2315 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> Adelta11: Are you using an Intel integrated GPU?
#2316 [13:27] <blinky> nanotron , where do i run the repair permissions?
#2317 [13:27] <nanotron> Adelta11: upgrade your video driver.
#2318 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> fotballidiot: try disabling your antivirus
#2319 [13:27] <Adelta11> I'm not a massive computer whizz, I have a dell pc if that helps lol
#2320 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> ??> Adelta11 win/dxdiag
#2321 [13:28] <footballidiot> nanotron: Holy shit. I didn't think about that. Thanks.
#2322 [13:28] <VoxelHead> Adelta11: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2323 [13:28] <VoxelHead> Adelta11: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2324 [13:28] <Adelta11> windows
#2325 [13:28] <nanotron> blinky: Open your Finger... go into Applications and then go into Utilities
#2326 [13:28] <nanotron> blinky: Launch "Disk Utility"
#2327 [13:29] <nanotron> blinky: In the column on the left, click your startup disk.
#2328 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> Adelta11: Can you follow VoxelHead's instructions?
#2329 [13:29] <nanotron> blinky: Click the First Aid tab, and then click Repair Disk Permissions.
#2330 [13:29] <Adelta11> I have windows XP, where do I find applications, utilities? I thought it might be in the control panel
#2331 [13:29] <blinky> on my main hardrive?
#2332 [13:30] <nanotron> blinky: yes
#2333 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> Adelta11: No, that is not towards you
#2334 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> ??> Adelta11 win/dxdiag
#2335 [13:30] <VoxelHead> Adelta11: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2336 [13:30] <VoxelHead> Adelta11: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2337 [13:30] <blinky> repairing....
#2338 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> Instead, follow VoxelHead's instructions above
#2339 [13:30] <Adelta11> just doing that now 2 secs
#2340 [13:34] <Adelta11> http://pastebin.com/UyYcH6BZ is this right? lol
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#2343 [13:43] <Adelta11> Has anyone managed to look at what I pasted?
#2344 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Adelta11 - Try updating your video drivers from: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
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#2346 [13:46] <Adelta11> thanks GreyVulpine, I will look at that now :)
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#2350 [13:49] <edibleness> hey guys, im looking for some help. i have had minecraft installed and have paid for the package but my computer will not allow it to work, it has never worked on this computer but i have logged onto other computers
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#2352 [13:49] <momofofo> how do i run my owen server
#2353 [13:49] <momofofo> in beta
#2354 [13:50] <Opeth> ??> momofofo smp/serversetup
#2355 [13:50] <VoxelHead> momofofo: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#2356 [13:50] <VoxelHead> momofofo: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2357 [13:51] <edibleness> anyone able to help me?
#2358 [13:51] <edibleness> all i get when i try and play is, cannot connect to minecraft.net
#2359 [13:51] <Awesomeness> I'm able.
#2360 [13:51] <Awesomeness> Thanks for asking, please come again.
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#2362 [13:51] <edibleness> ....
#2363 [13:51] <edibleness> awesomeness
#2364 [13:51] <Awesomeness> That's my name.
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#2366 [13:51] <edibleness> also a sarcastic reply
#2367 [13:52] <edibleness> right, can anyone help me?
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#2369 [13:52] <Awesomeness> I can help you.
#2370 [13:52] <blackscreen> can anyone help me with the black screen when trying to run minecraft
#2371 [13:52] <Awesomeness> Thanks for asking, please come again.
#2372 [13:52] <Awesomeness> ??> blackscreen win/reinst
#2373 [13:52] <VoxelHead> blackscreen: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2374 [13:52] <VoxelHead> blackscreen: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2377 [13:53] <Buildguy_202> hello!
#2378 [13:53] <Edward> hiya
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#2381 [13:54] <The_Gambit> Can admin or mod of Mincraft please help me?
#2382 [13:54] <Awesomeness> Nope, thanks for asking, please come again.
#2383 [13:54] <Buildguy_202> hey, when I log in to minecraft, it keeps saying can't connect to minecraft.net!
#2384 [13:54] <Awesomeness> Buildguy_202: Try again later.
#2385 [13:54] <edibleness> voxel, ive tried that before. minecraft wont run, ive tried the jar ive tried both for windows and i cannot get it to run, it just wont connect
#2386 [13:54] <Buildguy_202> he says that so many times!!
#2387 [13:55] <The_Gambit> Can admin or mod of Mincraft please help me.
#2388 [13:55] <Awesomeness> The_Gambit: Nope
#2389 [13:55] <Buildguy_202> it works perfectly on my other computer!
#2390 [13:55] <Buildguy_202> but i cant go on that one
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#2392 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Buildguy_202 - What operating system?
#2393 [13:55] <Awesomeness> Interesting
#2394 [13:55] <Buildguy_202> what?
#2395 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Windows? Mac? Linux?
#2396 [13:55] <Buildguy_202> Windows 7
#2397 [13:55] <Awesomeness> GreyVulpine, stop saying Mac, IT'S OS X. D:
#2398 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> First off, is your system time and date correct?
#2399 [13:56] <Buildguy_202> yup
#2400 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Awesomeness - Can't stop it, muscle memory
#2401 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Buildguy_202 - Does your windows username have a ! mark in it?
#2402 [13:56] <x> Awesomeness: well, it's not quite Vista, is it?
#2403 [13:56] <Buildguy_202> its the 7th of july right?
#2404 [13:56] <x> Buildguy_202: correct
#2405 [13:56] <Buildguy_202> nope
#2406 [13:56] <x> (working by UTC)
#2407 [13:57] <blackscreen> that win/rienst thing didnt work for me
#2408 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Buildguy_202 - Are you able to connect to minecraft.net via your browser?
#2409 [13:57] <Awesomeness> blackscreen: have you bought the game?
#2410 [13:57] <blackscreen> yes
#2411 [13:57] <Awesomeness> Okay, have you ever modified the game?
#2412 [13:57] <Buildguy_202> nvm it works again
#2413 [13:57] <Edward> can anyone suggest a good map editor for 1.72?
#2414 [13:57] <blackscreen> no i havent
#2415 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> MCedit, Edward
#2416 [13:58] <Awesomeness> I think you mean 1.7.2
#2417 [13:58] <Edward> i will look it up, thank you
#2418 [13:58] <blackscreen> i hav never modded the game
#2419 [13:58] <Edward> and whats an extra . here or there?
#2420 [13:58] <edibleness> greyvulpine, sorry im having the same problem. always comes up with cannot connect, and so far have not been able to log onto minecraft on this computer
#2421 [13:59] <Awesomeness> blackscreen: Hmm, what OS are you using?
#2422 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to connect to minecraft.net via your browser?
#2423 [13:59] <edibleness> yes
#2424 [13:59] <blackscreen> windows 7
#2425 [13:59] <Awesomeness> Okay, please try connecting to the via your browser.
#2426 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> edibleness - Does your windows username have a ! mark in it? Is your system time and date correct?
#2427 [13:59] <edibleness> no and yes
#2428 [14:00] <blackscreen> ok
#2429 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> edibleness - Then you have some sort of security software or firewall blocking java/minecraft
#2430 [14:00] <The_Gambit> I need help. I Have a Problem I bought Minecraft And says Purchased complete. Says i dont have premium when i Downloaded.
#2431 [14:01] <Awesomeness> The_Gambit: How long ago did you purchase?
#2432 [14:01] <The_Gambit> Last night before i went to bed. So about 18hr ago
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#2434 [14:01] <Awesomeness> What is your username?
#2435 [14:01] <The_Gambit> Same as this one.
#2436 [14:01] <Awesomeness> !Paid The_Gambit
#2437 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> The_Gambit - What did you use to pay for minecrafT?
#2438 [14:02] <edibleness> i have avast installed
#2439 [14:02] <The_Gambit> Credit Card.
#2440 [14:02] <Awesomeness> edibleness: Have you pirated Minecraft before buying?
#2441 [14:02] <edibleness> nope
#2442 [14:02] <The_Gambit> No i Have not.
#2443 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> The_Gambit - Can you check your credit card balance, maybe call them up, see if payment has been made to Mojang AB
#2444 [14:02] <Awesomeness> Not you, Gambit.
#2445 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> If it hasn't, the transaction never was completed. If it has, then you can contact Mojang further
#2446 [14:03] <Awesomeness> You can use http://www.minecraft.net/support/ to contact them.
#2447 [14:03] <edibleness> me?
#2448 [14:03] <Awesomeness> No
#2449 [14:03] <blackscreen> @awesomeness i cannot play online either i just get a white screen
#2450 [14:04] <Awesomeness> Okay, you sure you did exactly what VoxelHead told you?
#2451 [14:04] <The_Gambit> I Checked on the Computer (The Site For my credit Card) Hasnt went throught.
#2452 [14:04] <blackscreen> yes
#2453 [14:04] <Awesomeness> Okay, uh..
#2454 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> The_Gambit - Then the transaction was never completed. You may want to try purchasing it again
#2455 [14:05] <edibleness> what else can i try GreyVulpine
#2456 [14:05] <The_Gambit> I tryed And it said The Credit card could not be in use for another 24hrs. Then I pressed ok. it said Purchase was completed.
#2457 [14:05] <Awesomeness> ??> edibleness win/hosts
#2458 [14:05] <VoxelHead> edibleness: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2459 [14:05] <VoxelHead> edibleness: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2460 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> The_Gambit - Try another payment service, try paypal
#2461 [14:06] <Awesomeness> *PayPal
#2462 [14:06] <Awesomeness> >.>
#2463 [14:06] <edibleness> ill try that now :)
#2464 [14:06] <GreyVulpine> edibleness - I'm pretty sure you've got a security software of some sort blocking java
#2465 [14:06] <The_Gambit> I can Not use Paypal With this credit Card. It Has been Disabled on paypal Because of a family member.
#2466 [14:06] <Awesomeness> oh snap
#2467 [14:07] <GreyVulpine> The_Gambit - Then either call up the credit card, and see if you can get the block lifted, or see why the payment is being declined on their end
#2468 [14:07] <edibleness> http://mibpaste.com/g2z568
#2469 [14:07] <edibleness> all done :D
#2470 [14:07] <Awesomeness> Hmm
#2471 [14:08] <Awesomeness> Could it be a Firewall?
#2472 [14:08] <blackscreen> @awesomeness http://pastebin.com/1sdhEX3C
#2473 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Awesomeness - That's what I said in the first place..
#2474 [14:08] <Awesomeness> blackscreen: you didn't have to do it. ...
#2475 [14:08] <blackscreen> arewell i did
#2476 [14:09] <Awesomeness> One second, edibleness
#2477 [14:09] <edibleness> sure :D
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#2479 [14:09] <Awesomeness> Are you sure it's allowed through Firewall?
#2480 [14:10] <edibleness> i allowed it through the windows firewall...
#2481 [14:10] <edibleness> avast is my other, not so sure about that
#2482 [14:10] <Awesomeness> You have two Firewalls?
#2483 [14:10] <Awesomeness> Why?
#2484 [14:10] <Awesomeness> That's completely useless.
#2485 [14:11] <Awesomeness> They might be conflicting.
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#2487 [14:11] <The_Gambit> What if it Double Charges When i Charge through a A Different Payment Option
#2488 [14:11] <Awesomeness> The_Gambit: It wont since your card never let through it the first time.
#2489 [14:11] <edibleness> windows has a fiewall, and avast has one im sure?
#2490 [14:11] <The_Gambit> So Once through Credit card and then Through Newpayment option
#2491 [14:12] <edibleness> so ur saying, turn off my firewalls and try it? :P
#2492 [14:12] <Awesomeness> Sure
#2493 [14:12] <blackscreen> so what do i do
#2494 [14:12] <Awesomeness> blackscreen: What is your username?
#2495 [14:13] <blackscreen> minecraftralph
#2496 [14:13] <Awesomeness> !Paid minecraftralph
#2497 [14:13] <Awesomeness> Okay, bah
#2498 [14:13] <Awesomeness> Go into Minecraft launcher
#2499 [14:13] <Awesomeness> Click options
#2500 [14:13] <Awesomeness> Click 'force update'
#2501 [14:13] <Awesomeness> Click Done!
#2502 [14:13] <Awesomeness> And login, it should re-download Minecraft.
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#2504 [14:14] <mib_rxltn0> hello
#2505 [14:14] <Awesomeness> I highly suggest changing it to something specific by saying "/nick (newname)" replacing (newname) with the name you want to use. This makes it easier for us to help you. Thanks!
#2506 [14:14] <Awesomeness> GV: What book do you recommend for Java? :P
#2507 [14:15] <blackscreen> @Awesomeness i still have the same problem
#2508 [14:15] <reese> im not able to open minecraft
#2509 [14:15] <Opeth> Awesomeness - There is a Voxel command for the irc nick
#2510 [14:15] <Opeth> ??> Awesomeness irc/nick
#2511 [14:15] <VoxelHead> Awesomeness: (irc/nick) To set your name in IRC, type /nick _______
#2512 [14:15] <VoxelHead> Awesomeness: (irc/nick) Fill in the blank with your desired name, naturally.
#2513 [14:16] <reese> can someone help me?
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#2515 [14:16] <Awesomeness> Opeth - I prefer to use my script.
#2516 [14:16] <Opeth> Hm
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#2518 [14:16] <Opeth> reese - Are you getting any errors when trying to open it? Or does the .exe file not respond.
#2519 [14:16] <blackscreen> @Awesomeness i still have the same problem
#2520 [14:16] <mib_uvochu> .
#2521 [14:16] <Awesomeness> blackscreen, I am aware.
#2522 [14:16] <blackscreen> sorry
#2523 [14:17] <Awesomeness> Have you pirated before you bought it?
#2524 [14:17] <edibleness> well, i turned everything off, no luck :P
#2525 [14:17] <blackscreen> nope
#2526 [14:17] <Awesomeness> edibleness: including Avast?
#2527 [14:17] <Awesomeness> blackscreen: Uhm, got a ! in your username?
#2528 [14:18] <blackscreen> yes
#2529 [14:18] <edibleness> yeah :p
#2530 [14:18] <Awesomeness> ..
#2531 [14:18] <Awesomeness> You must remove the !, both of you
#2532 [14:19] <Awesomeness> Otherwise it will not work.
#2533 [14:19] <Kealper> you can't remove it
#2534 [14:19] <Kealper> you have to make a new windows user profile
#2535 [14:19] <edibleness> i havent got a !
#2536 [14:19] <edibleness> i meant i turned avast off
#2537 [14:20] <blackscreen> somehow i dont think thats true
#2538 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> blackscreen - If you have a ! in your windows username, it can cause that issue.
#2539 [14:20] <mib_uvochu> Does anyone know what y-axis level is most common for diamond?
#2540 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_uvochu - From 1-20
#2541 [14:20] <Awesomeness> Kealper! :D
#2542 [14:21] <blackscreen> are you actualy being serious?
#2543 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> blackscreen - Yes, absolutely.
#2544 [14:21] <edibleness> what the hell sorta bug is that :P
#2545 [14:21] <mib_uvochu> Thanks
#2546 [14:21] <edibleness> im still stuck? :P
#2547 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> blackscreen - A ! in the windows username can cause a Can't connect to minecraft.net error
#2548 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Try creating a new windows user account that doesn't have a ! in it
#2549 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> edibleness - What security software do you run, any firewalls?
#2550 [14:22] <blackscreen> can i just change the name or do i have to create a whole new account
#2551 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> New account
#2552 [14:22] <blackscreen> fine
#2553 [14:27] <The_Gambit> Credit/debit card deposits disabled You can not use your credit/debit card for the next 24 hours. This restriction cannot be lifted manually by you or our service team. Please return to the website of the Merchant where you will receive further instructions.
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#2555 [14:27] <The_Gambit> Then it says ok.
#2556 [14:27] <The_Gambit> I press ok. Then It says...
#2557 [14:27] <The_Gambit> Purchase complete! Thank you for purchasing Minecraft! Your status should update within the hour. If it doesn't activate, check out our support page. You should now be able to play Minecraft either directly in your web browser, or you can download and play it offline. - Markus Persson and friends
#2558 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> I'd believe the first message, just wait.
#2559 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Try purchasing it again laster
#2560 [14:28] <The_Gambit> Wow Purchasing a game For my Friend The same way i am Took 10mins and he started playing right away,
#2561 [14:31] <The_Gambit> Why did the Second Page Pop up then?
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#2563 [14:33] <LULZ> sup
#2564 [14:33] <LULZ> i r ned sum1 with gold star 2 help
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#2567 [14:35] <richlu> Good evening.
#2568 [14:35] <Awesomeness> Hello. :)
#2569 [14:35] <Awesomeness> Someone with good grammar, makes me want to smiley face. :D
#2570 [14:36] <richlu> Awesomeness: Do you mean me? :)
#2571 [14:36] <almostroot> Awesomeness: I never get smiley faces. :(
#2572 [14:37] <Awesomeness> Yes. :D
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#2575 [14:40] <mib_oihmcf> help please
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#2577 [14:41] <Opeth> With?
#2578 [14:41] <mib_oihmcf> it says outdated launcher
#2579 [14:41] <mib_oihmcf> what does that mean
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#2581 [14:41] <Opeth> It means exactly what it tells you.
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#2583 [14:41] <mib_oihmcf> i cant play offline
#2584 [14:41] <Opeth> Give me a second.
#2585 [14:41] <Opeth> http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#2586 [14:41] <mib_oihmcf> please help
#2587 [14:41] <Opeth> Download the new launcher and run.
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#2592 [14:42] <mib_oihmcf> thank you
#2593 [14:43] <richlu> So I´m back again... Im not sure if anyone can help me here, but someone has apparently stole mine MC account what I call weird is that the password wasn´t changed. I discovered this just by googling my name (richlu). I have found response on one of servers from our country (http://forum.majncraft.cz/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=523). Is there any list of IP´s from which this account was logged in?
#2594 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> ?? support
#2595 [14:43] <VoxelHead> support: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#2596 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Try Account --> Hacked
#2597 [14:44] <Morrolan> richlu: Respectively, if the password didn't change, just change your Minecraft and mail password I guess.
#2598 [14:45] <Zw> is there a way to delete chunks in my map?
#2599 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Yes, MCedit has that functionality
#2600 [14:45] <Zw> like areas where "old" players have built
#2601 [14:45] <Zw> to let new build there
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#2603 [14:45] <Morrolan> Zw: Either MCEdit or WorldEdit
#2604 [14:45] <Zw> but what if the server is on another server and the map is xx gb
#2605 [14:45] <Zw> i have worldedit
#2606 [14:45] <Zw> but /delchunk did not work
#2607 [14:45] <Zw> want to regenerate areas
#2608 [14:46] <Morrolan> Lemme check the area
#2609 [14:46] <Morrolan> command*
#2610 [14:46] <Zw> ./regen?
#2611 [14:46] <Morrolan> yep
#2612 [14:46] <mib_ixwz7b> i downloaded tmi and now i cant update so i deleted a bunch of stuff now im screwed help
#2613 [14:46] <Awesomeness> I need a hug.
#2614 [14:46] <Morrolan> That's it.
#2615 [14:46] <Awesomeness> Someone give me a hug?
#2616 [14:46] <mib_ixwz7b> PLZ HELP
#2617 [14:47] <mib_ixwz7b> help
#2618 [14:47] <Morrolan> mib_ixwz7b: "I deleted a bunch of stuff and now I'm screwed" ?
#2619 [14:47] <Morrolan> Oh well
#2620 [14:47] <Morrolan> I guess not then.
#2621 [14:48] <Morrolan> Zw: /delchunk doesn't work anymore, wasn't updated for the new world format if I recall correctly
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#2624 [14:56] <Whaleduck> anyone know how to update a video card?
#2625 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what video card you have, and what operating system you're running
#2626 [14:58] <Whaleduck> all i really know is that im using windows xp pro and minecraft says i got bad video card drives
#2627 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Could you please give us a dxdiag:
#2628 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> ??> Whaleduck win/dxdiag
#2629 [14:58] <VoxelHead> Whaleduck: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2630 [14:58] <VoxelHead> Whaleduck: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2631 [15:00] <Whaleduck> workin on it
#2632 [15:01] <Whaleduck> IRC channel?
#2633 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> This room
#2634 [15:01] <Whaleduck> oh
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#2636 [15:02] <Whaleduck> oh one thing... you guys know norwegian?
#2637 [15:02] <Whaleduck> or atleast can translate it
#2638 [15:02] <Whaleduck> http://pastebin.com/2a7maYYg
#2639 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Oi, hmm. Try going to intel's site here, use their Intel Driver Update Utility:
#2640 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> ??> Whaleduck gpu/intel
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#2642 [15:04] <VoxelHead> Whaleduck: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2643 [15:04] <Awesomeness> lol GV
#2644 [15:04] <Awesomeness> Sick of Intels website? :D
#2645 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Like you wouldn't believe.
#2646 [15:05] <Whaleduck> so what to search for?
#2647 [15:05] <Awesomeness> Hey, you said buy a book of Java, which would you recommend.
#2648 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Use the "Intel Driver Update Utility". it's a button at the top
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#2650 [15:05] <AKpowder907> hi
#2651 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Awesomeness - No idea.
#2652 [15:05] <AKpowder907> anyone ere use linux ubuntu 11.04
#2653 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> AKpowder907 - Many people do, what's the problem?
#2654 [15:06] <Awesomeness> I built a few 'advanced'(?) mods (at least to me) today, just by looking at code, and thinking
#2655 [15:06] <Awesomeness> compiled succesfully. :)
#2656 [15:06] <AKpowder907> when i log into minecraft it loads then goes black
#2657 [15:07] * mib_bir1d3 [mib_bir1d3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2658 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> AKpowder907 - Has it worked at all before?
#2659 [15:07] <Whaleduck> i has finished loading, what now?
#2660 [15:07] <Awesomeness> ??> AKPowder907 linux/reinst
#2661 [15:07] <VoxelHead> AKPowder907: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2662 [15:07] <Whaleduck> extend all?
#2663 [15:07] <VoxelHead> AKPowder907: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#2664 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Whaleduck - Does it ask you to download anything?
#2665 [15:07] <AKpowder907> ok ill try that brb
#2666 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Whaleduck - Specifically, graphics or video drivers.
#2667 [15:08] <Whaleduck> on graphics it says "your driver is current", and the only thing that shows a download sign is wireless
#2668 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> Whaleduck - Could you try these instructions: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#2669 [15:09] <mib_bir1d3> i need help figuring out why i cant log on it says User not Premium can someone help? this is my first time dl
#2670 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_bir1d3 - Did you pay for minecraft?
#2671 [15:09] <mib_bir1d3> nooooooooooooo
#2672 [15:09] <AKpowder907> hmmm still turned black :(
#2673 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_bir1d3 - Then you can't play. Minecraft beta is not free
#2674 [15:09] <Awesomeness> You need to buy it.
#2675 [15:09] <shortybsd> is there any type of map viewer for mcr files where i can load just an individual file in rather than loading it fromt he level.dat file (loader) ?
#2676 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> shortybsd - Not aware of any.
#2677 [15:10] <Whaleduck> i dont see how this is going to help grey
#2678 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Whaleduck - Intel integrated graphics cards siphon memory from RAM. You only have a gig of RAM to share between the video card, your operating system, your other programs, and minecraft
#2679 [15:11] <mib_v2rxfm> i get minecraft has crashed and i wont let me scroll down to send the details via email, im running win7
#2680 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft, by default, tries to run with a gig of RAM allocated to itself, the batch file lowers that to 256M of RAM
#2681 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> By running with too much RAM, your system is choking on RAM to share to the video card, hence, no graphics acceleration
#2682 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> if this doesn't work, then there's really nothing you can do but buy a new computer
#2683 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_v2rxfm - Has it worked before?
#2684 [15:13] <mib_v2rxfm> yes it has
#2685 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_v2rxfm - Windows?
#2686 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> er, right, windows 7
#2687 [15:13] <mib_v2rxfm> windows 7
#2688 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#2689 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> There, look for the .minecraft folder, delete everything inside except for the saves folder
#2690 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Relaunch minecraft afterwards
#2691 [15:14] <mib_v2rxfm> try it now
#2692 [15:14] <shortybsd> save your screenshot folder too :)
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#2694 [15:17] <mib_v2rxfm> it wont let me delete the bin, saves and texturepack
#2695 [15:17] <aaune> Hup. Is there some good site that lists bunch of available servers (and what mods/settings they are running)? Me and a buddy are looking for a new home.
#2696 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_v2rxfm - Close down minecraft
#2697 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> ??> aaune smp/servers
#2698 [15:17] <VoxelHead> aaune: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2699 [15:17] <VoxelHead> aaune: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2700 [15:17] <mib_v2rxfm> it is closed, not running
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#2703 [15:18] <vipir> can someone help me please?
#2704 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_v2rxfm - Right click on your task bar, open up task manager, look at the processes list, and close javaw.exe
#2705 [15:19] * Awesomeness helps vipir
#2705 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> mib_v2rxfm - Then try deleting those folders again
#2706 [15:19] <Awesomeness> ??> vipir ask
#2707 [15:19] <VoxelHead> vipir: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2708 [15:19] <VoxelHead> vipir: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2709 [15:19] <vipir> when i
#2710 [15:19] <vipir> open up minecraft downloadable version
#2711 [15:19] <vipir> it says i have 'bad video card drivers'
#2712 [15:19] <vipir> what do i do?
#2713 [15:20] <Awesomeness> ??> vipir win/dxdiag
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#2715 [15:20] <VoxelHead> vipir: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2716 [15:20] <VoxelHead> vipir: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2717 [15:20] <mib_v2rxfm> its gone, thanks
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#2719 [15:21] <vipir> ok hang on
#2720 [15:21] <mib_v2rxfm> going to relaunch
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#2722 [15:22] <mib_v2rxfm> working now many thanks for your help
#2723 [15:22] <vipir> http://pastebin.com/2qzvcjfX
#2724 [15:22] <vipir> there
#2725 [15:23] <Awesomeness> ??> vipir gpu/intel
#2726 [15:23] <VoxelHead> vipir: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2727 [15:23] <CW0513> Hello, it's been 3 days since I bought the game, I payed for everything properly, emailed the Mojang site and STILL nothing!!!
#2728 [15:23] <Awesomeness> Okay, find the gpu of the name Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family there
#2729 [15:23] <Awesomeness> Goodbye everyone, I must watch my animes now.
#2730 [15:24] <CW0513> Hello, it's been 3 days since I bought the game minecraft, I payed for everything properly, emailed the Mojang site and STILL nothing!!!
#2731 [15:24] <Kealper> CW0513: you told payment@mojang.com that you bought the game and didn't recieve it?
#2732 [15:24] <Kealper> CW0513: we seen it the first time
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#2734 [15:25] <nikii93> hello
#2735 [15:25] <Kealper> hi
#2736 [15:25] <vipir> anything yet voxelhead?
#2737 [15:25] <CW0513> YES!! YES I DID EMAIL THEM!!!
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#2740 [15:25] <Kealper> ??> CW0513 dont/yell
#2741 [15:25] <Kealper> really....
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#2743 [15:25] <nikii93> I have bought Minecraft for a few days but i havent received any gift code :-(
#2744 [15:25] <Kealper> guess VoxelHead doesn't have that entry
#2745 [15:26] <CW0513> Sorry.... :"(
#2746 [15:26] <Kealper> nikii93: if you bought a gift code, it will appear in the bottom of your profile page on minecraft.net when you log in
#2747 [15:26] <Kealper> CW0513: the only thing i can say is email them again, as we can't solve account-related issues here
#2748 [15:27] <CW0513> ok.
#2749 [15:27] <nikii93> There is no Gift Code. I have paid per direct debit
#2750 [15:27] <Kealper> CW0513: if it comes down to it, you could dispute the payment and get your money back and try again....something probably just went wrong on Mojang's end where it marked you as paid but forgot to mark you as premium
#2751 [15:28] <nikii93> Have Mojang a E-Mail adress?
#2752 [15:28] <Kealper> nikii93: sounds like the same issue CW0513 has, only thing i can say is email payment@mojang.com and say what happened :/
#2753 [15:28] <CW0513> So how do I dispute it and get my money back?
#2754 [15:28] <nikii93> ok thanks i send a email :-)
#2755 [15:29] <Kealper> CW0513: depends on how you paid
#2756 [15:29] <CW0513> Like?...
#2757 [15:29] <Kealper> CW0513: credit card, paypal, etc
#2758 [15:29] <CW0513> And then what?
#2759 [15:29] <me> how do i make my self a admin on my server
#2760 [15:30] <Kealper> ??> me smp/opyourself
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#2762 [15:30] <nikii93> ok i have paid per direct debit
#2763 [15:30] <VoxelHead> me: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#2764 [15:30] <VoxelHead> me: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#2765 [15:30] <Kealper> CW0513: if you used a credit card, you contact the credit card company, if by debit card, you contact your bank, if by paypal you just do a chargeback
#2766 [15:31] <nikii93> ok thx
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#2768 [15:31] * VoxelHead kicked lildrummerdrew from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: Take two weeks to calm yourself down.)
#2769 [15:31] <Kealper> nikii93: those last messages were not for you
#2770 [15:31] <nikii93> ok
#2771 [15:31] <me> yea i did that but i cant fly and stuff
#2772 [15:31] <Kealper> CW0513: but most likely, your email just got lost, which is why i said just try emailing the magain first
#2773 [15:31] <Kealper> them again*
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#2775 [15:32] <Kealper> me: you can't fly as an op unless you used mods
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#2777 [15:32] <CW0513> okay, thanks for the help. I'll try emailing them again and if worst comes to worst I'll contact my bank.
#2778 [15:32] <me> i have single player commands and stuff
#2779 [15:32] <Kealper> CW0513: sorry i couldn't be of your help :/
#2780 [15:32] <SheepNeedMilk> Every time I go to install a mod pack, i paste into the minecraft.jar and it says ! Cannot rename __rzi_42.4436560 to C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\.minecraft\bin\minecraft.jar ! Cannot create C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\.minecraft\bin\minecraft.jar
#2781 [15:33] <Kealper> me: single player commands only works on single player, hence it's name
#2782 [15:33] <SheepNeedMilk> The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
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#2784 [15:33] <Schala_Zeal> I'm having some difficulty making an infinite water spring. I made a 2-cube ditch and poured water in each but.... it's not working
#2785 [15:33] <Kealper> SheepNeedMilk: make sure Minecraft is not running whne you try it
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#2787 [15:33] <SheepNeedMilk> Keapler: even if its on the menu?
#2788 [15:33] <CW0513> Dont be sorry, you were very helpful! :D
#2789 [15:34] <The_Gambit> !paid The_Gambit
#2790 [15:34] <me> how do i install mod in to my server
#2791 [15:34] <Kealper> SheepNeedMilk: correct, because it's still running
#2792 [15:34] <The_Gambit> :( still not working
#2793 [15:34] <Kealper> ??> me mods
#2794 [15:34] <VoxelHead> me: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit
#2795 [15:34] <VoxelHead> me: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for forther assistance with many other mods, check #Risucraft or #mcmods - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
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#2797 [15:34] <Kealper> Schala_Zeal: if you've set it up how you say, i've got no idea why it isn't working
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#2799 [15:34] <SheepNeedMilk> Ah. Thanks a lot. :D
#2800 [15:34] <mib_i98x5g> Is Opeth here?
#2801 [15:34] <rasin> hey
#2802 [15:35] <Schala_Zeal> hmm... weird
#2803 [15:35] <rasin> i really need some help
#2804 [15:35] <Kealper> ??> rasin ask
#2805 [15:35] <VoxelHead> rasin: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2806 [15:35] <VoxelHead> rasin: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2807 [15:35] <Kealper> The_Gambit: what's your issue?
#2808 [15:35] <Schala_Zeal> cause I scooped from it and one mouth of the water vanished
#2809 [15:35] <rasin> my minecraft is running, but I can't find any files that it could be running off of. can you help?
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#2812 [15:36] <Kealper> Schala_Zeal: are you sure all 4 spots had water source blocks?
#2813 [15:36] <rasin> I really am confused
#2814 [15:36] <Kealper> rasin: easiest way is to just restart your computer
#2815 [15:36] <aaune> #smp
#2816 [15:36] <Kealper> aaune: you could have just typed /join #smp
#2817 [15:36] <mib_i98x5g> I was here a while ago/this morning about whenever i logged in i got a black screen. im on windows 7, have doe the appdata thingy and my computer driver's all up to date. any other help anyone can give as it still wont work?
#2818 [15:36] <rasin> i did that, but I think it's still running without a .minecraft file.
#2819 [15:37] <rasin> i'm thinking of asking nitch for help
#2820 [15:37] <krebbit> anyone no how to get powered rails to work?
#2821 [15:37] <Kealper> rasin: it can't run if there is no .minecraft folder
#2822 [15:37] <rasin> i mean, he made it
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#2824 [15:37] <rasin> well, some how it is.
#2825 [15:37] <rasin> I can't find them anywhere
#2826 [15:37] <Kealper> krebbit: power them with redstone torches or switches, or buttons, or anything with redstone power
#2827 [15:37] <Awesomeness> Okay!
#2828 [15:37] <Awesomeness> I'm back
#2829 [15:37] <Awesomeness> had fun, Kealper?
#2830 [15:37] <Kealper> Awesomeness: if you call it fun, sure
#2831 [15:37] <Awesomeness> :D
#2832 [15:37] <rasin> is there a chance the files could be imbedded in my harddrive?
#2833 [15:38] <krebbit> would detector rails work?
#2834 [15:38] <Awesomeness> Rasin, what's your problem?
#2835 [15:38] <rasin> my minecraft is running
#2836 [15:38] <rasin> but
#2837 [15:38] <rasin> there is no .minecraft file to be found
#2838 [15:38] <EmpiresBane> rasin, are you sure that you have show hidden files on?
#2839 [15:38] <Awesomeness> That's... interesting.
#2840 [15:38] <Awesomeness> Have you bought the game?
#2841 [15:38] <rasin> how would I turn that on?
#2842 [15:39] <rasin> yesit's not pirated
#2843 [15:39] <Kealper> rasin: there is a way to get in to it without turning it on
#2844 [15:39] <Kealper> rasin: you know where you typed in %appdata%?
#2845 [15:39] <mib_i98x5g> anyone? this has been bugging me for ages :/
#2846 [15:39] <rasin> otherwise, it could be imbedded in the harddrive
#2847 [15:39] <rasin> yeah
#2848 [15:39] <rasin> wait
#2849 [15:39] <rasin> how do I turn on hidden files?
#2850 [15:39] <Kealper> rasin: do that again, but type %appdata%\.minecraft instead
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#2852 [15:40] <rasin> ooookayyy
#2853 [15:40] <Robdgreat> darn sticky keys
#2854 [15:40] <Schala_Zeal> would mossy cobblestone be a factor in my spring failing to work?
#2855 [15:40] <Awesomeness> Huh?
#2856 [15:40] <rasin> i found it, but it has four new folders with nothing in them
#2857 [15:40] <Kealper> rasin: for future reference with the hidden files: inside any folder do this - Tools > Folder Options > View > Show hidden files and folders
#2858 [15:41] <genshou> spring, Schala_Zeal?
#2859 [15:41] <rasin> okay
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#2861 [15:41] <Schala_Zeal> my infinite spring wasn't really...infinite
#2862 [15:41] <genshou> Oh.
#2863 [15:41] <Awesomeness> lmao
#2864 [15:41] <rasin> where's tool on a vista?
#2865 [15:41] <EmpiresBane> mib_i98x5g, sometimes games just don't work. it could be that your card doesn't support openGL properly
#2866 [15:41] <genshou> Take a picture of it and upload to photobucket, imgur, tinypic, et al?
#2867 [15:41] <Kealper> rasin: press the alt key first to show the Tools thing
#2868 [15:41] <Awesomeness> Make a 2x2 square, that will be your infinite spring.
#2869 [15:41] <rasin> this is a new computer for me, been playing for about 2 weeks
#2870 [15:41] <genshou> There are lots of ways to make infinite springs; they all have the same rules
#2871 [15:41] * pilzeey [pilzeey@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2872 [15:42] <Schala_Zeal> ooooooh! I did 1x2 heh
#2873 [15:42] <rasin> how?
#2874 [15:42] <rasin> i did that, but nothing comes up
#2875 [15:42] <krebbit> actually 3x3 works more for me
#2876 [15:42] <Awesomeness> I think you mean 3x1
#2877 [15:42] <EmpiresBane> 1x3 works, if you only take the center
#2878 [15:42] <genshou> Ah, you need at least 1x3 (the middle must be only one block deep, and you can only draw from the middle), or at least 2x2 (all the pool must be 1 block deep) to be able to draw from any point
#2879 [15:42] <pilzeey> hey
#2880 [15:42] <Kealper> rasin: look at the top of the folder window, a menu shows up after pressing the alt key
#2881 [15:42] <rasin> anyway
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#2883 [15:42] <rasin> it's still full of blank files
#2884 [15:42] <mib_i98x5g> @EmpiresBane but minecraft worked right before the 1.7 update?
#2885 [15:43] <pilzeey> i have a problem with running minecraft
#2886 [15:43] <Kealper> rasin: delete all of them except the "saves" folder
#2887 [15:43] <rasin> how do I get minecraft to load a whole new set of 1.7 files?
#2888 [15:43] <genshou> I like 2x2 cisterns in my house's basement or at the bottom of my mineshaft.
#2889 [15:43] <pilzeey> blackscreen comes up when he logged in
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#2891 [15:43] <Kealper> rasin: just how i said
#2892 [15:43] <rasin> there is no saves folder
#2893 [15:43] <EmpiresBane> oh... and you've tried deleting ALL the files?
#2894 [15:43] <rasin> they all say ned folder
#2895 [15:43] <figaro> i have a problem
#2896 [15:43] <Kealper> rasin: ok then....delete everything in the folder
#2897 [15:43] <EmpiresBane> and then re-downloading manually
#2898 [15:43] <rasin> where's tools?
#2899 [15:43] <rasin> oookay
#2900 [15:43] <Jonny> I like to post videos on YouTube, and I have recently started posting videos about Minecraft. Walkthroughs, Let's Plays, Tutorials, etc. Anyway, YouTube/Google asked me if I wanted a YouTube partnership for one of my Minecraft videos because it has a good amount of views. Mojang/Notch approves customers to earn money like that? And get YT-partnership ?
#2901 [15:43] <figaro> i need help
#2902 [15:43] <rasin> done
#2903 [15:43] <pilzeey> can someone help me who has time
#2904 [15:43] <rasin> what now?
#2905 [15:44] <krebbit> pilzeey go to the client page and hit options above play and theh hit force upate
#2906 [15:44] <genshou> It's possible to draw two water out of a 2x2 hole fast enough to prevent it from refilling, but you have to do it deliberately and you have 2 buckets full of water to fix it with (you only need one)
#2907 [15:44] <figaro> when i mine ore it doesnt give me the block
#2908 [15:44] <Kealper> Jonny: i don't think they care, but if you are still wondering, ask daniel@mojang.com
#2909 [15:44] <pilzeey> i have done everything possible
#2910 [15:44] <Awesomeness> Jonny, what's your YOutube, for the lulz of it?
#2911 [15:44] <pilzeey> i could post an error thing message
#2912 [15:44] <figaro> it does when i mine clay sanf dirt
#2913 [15:44] <Schala_Zeal> there's a generated cavern that leads all the way to a dungeon.... without a chest...heh....... is there a no chest in dungeon penalty for peaceful mode?
#2914 [15:44] <rasin> kealper, what now?
#2915 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> pilzeey - Please post it at www.pastebin.com and give us the address
#2916 [15:44] <Kealper> rasin: try running the launcher again
#2917 [15:44] <genshou> Schala_Zeal, chests are randomly generated in dungeons, so infrequently you get one with no chests.
#2918 [15:44] <Jonny> thank you, Kealper
#2919 [15:45] <rasin> okay
#2920 [15:45] <rasin> brb
#2921 [15:45] <pilzeey> what adress
#2922 [15:45] <Schala_Zeal> ah
#2923 [15:45] <pilzeey> im german sorry ^^
#2924 [15:45] <figaro> i did. it didnt work
#2925 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> pilzeey - The address at the top of your browser, when you submit the error
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#2927 [15:45] <Astrus> Anyone remember how much ram is used per person on a minecraft server? My upload speed is crap, so looking torent a server for me and 4 friends, no idea how much ram to buy the server with :/
#2928 [15:45] <pilzeey> oh okay
#2929 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> About 100-150K of RAM per person
#2930 [15:45] <genshou> figaro, you need a specific tool to mine some blocks. Wooden pickaxe only works for stone, cobblestone, and coal ore. You need a stone pickaxe to get iron ore, and an iron pickaxe to get redstone, gold, diamond ores
#2931 [15:45] <mib_i98x5g> ah goddammit! I've tried everything and im still met with this black screen. Sigh.
#2932 [15:45] <rasin> logging in
#2933 [15:45] <Kealper> Astrus: http://canihostaminecraftserver.com
#2934 [15:45] <SheepNeedMilk> I just downloaded some mods into the minecraft.jar and now once i run minecraft in the standalone launcher, it comes up as a black screen.
#2935 [15:45] <Astrus> 256 which is recommended for 5 people just seems like too little
#2936 [15:46] <rasin> gimme a minute
#2937 [15:46] <Awesomeness> Sheep: Did you delete meta-inf?
#2938 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Astrus - Way too little
#2939 [15:46] <rasin> i'm running it online, and my internet is slow
#2940 [15:46] <Kealper> Astrus: who are you going with for hosting?
#2941 [15:46] <SheepNeedMilk> Yeah, its not there.
#2942 [15:46] <Astrus> canihostaminrcraftserver.com says 256 MB is enough for 5 people, so not really trusting that :)
#2943 [15:46] <rasin> it said would you like to update
#2944 [15:46] <rasin> then i hit yes
#2945 [15:46] <krebbit> so anyone no how to work these power rails im trying to power them with detector rails but its not working
#2946 [15:46] <rasin> then it said failure to launch
#2947 [15:46] <pilzeey> http://pastebin.com/EdNqV7bL
#2948 [15:46] <pilzeey> here is the adress
#2949 [15:47] <rasin> i'm going to try to launch without updates now
#2950 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> pilzeey - Do you know how to update your ATI video drivers?
#2951 [15:47] <Kealper> SheepNeedMilk: then the mods didn't work, in the launcher, click Force Update
#2952 [15:47] <pilzeey> no.. ^^
#2953 [15:47] <Kealper> SheepNeedMilk: also make sure you are not playing in the browser, mods will not work for that
#2954 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> pilzeey - Do you know what ATI video card you have?
#2955 [15:47] <pilzeey> i can look for it
#2956 [15:47] <rasin> it loaded
#2957 [15:47] <rasin> but
#2958 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> pilzeey - Basically, once you find out, you can go to ati's site here to update drivers
#2959 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> ??> pilzeey gpu/amd
#2960 [15:48] <rasin> i went to mods and texturepacks under the menu
#2961 [15:48] <VoxelHead> pilzeey: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2962 [15:48] <rasin> then went to texture pack folder
#2963 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> pilzeey - There's also helpful videos there to find out what video card you have
#2964 [15:48] <pilzeey> wait i have an...
#2965 [15:48] <rasin> and there is nothing in the above .minecraft folder
#2966 [15:48] <rasin> nothing
#2967 [15:48] <pilzeey> ATI Raedon 9600/9550/x1050Series
#2968 [15:48] <rasin> it's empty
#2969 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> pilzeey - Then head to http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2970 [15:49] <rasin> kealper
#2971 [15:49] <genshou> mib_i98x5g, use these instructions to get the crash report from Minecraft, and upload it to pastebin or mibpaste: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/184380-modding-tips-and-tricks/
#2972 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> pilzeey - There'll be a step by step wizard there to update your video card drivers
#2973 [15:49] <rasin> what should I do?
#2974 [15:49] <Kealper> rasin: has it ever worked before?
#2975 [15:49] <rasin> yeah
#2976 [15:49] <rasin> but my world got corrupted
#2977 [15:49] <rasin> so i deleted it
#2978 [15:49] <pilzeey> okay i'll try it
#2979 [15:49] <rasin> and the .minecraft folder
#2980 [15:49] <pilzeey> but i think i have already done that a few months before
#2981 [15:50] <rasin> because i wanted to try some new mods
#2982 [15:50] <rasin> and now
#2983 [15:50] <Kealper> rasin: well...it's working somehow, i'd just say don't touch it and enjoy the game >.>
#2984 [15:50] <rasin> when i go to the texturepacks folder from the game
#2985 [15:50] <rasin> but I wanted to add mods
#2986 [15:50] <genshou> mib_i98x5g, you could also use http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23286303/minecrafterrortest.bat
#2987 [15:50] <rasin> and I was REALLY looking forward to the aether mod
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#2989 [15:51] <rasin> i'm gonna go talk to notch on facebook
#2990 [15:51] <rasin> thanks anyways
#2991 [15:51] <Kealper> rasin: Notch doesn't run the facebook page
#2992 [15:51] <SheepNeedMilk> rasin how?
#2993 [15:51] <rasin> well, where can I get ahole of him?
#2994 [15:51] <rasin> i'm pretty shure he could help me
#2995 [15:51] * SevFTW|BlackBerry [SevFTW|BlackBerry@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2996 [15:52] <rasin> ahold
#2997 [15:52] <genshou> You... don't
#2998 [15:52] <rasin> but
#2999 [15:52] <SheepNeedMilk> Chances of you talking to notch are like... pretty impossible.
#3000 [15:52] <rasin> i really need this fixed
#3001 [15:52] <SheepNeedMilk> email support@mojang.com
#3002 [15:52] <rasin> yes, but this is a bug with HIS ga,e
#3003 [15:52] <rasin> game
#3004 [15:53] <rasin> really?
#3005 [15:53] <Kealper> rasin: it works fine without any mods or anything installed, right?
#3006 [15:53] <genshou> Notch would need Santa's powers of time control to listen to every problem everyone ever had with his game.
#3007 [15:53] <Awesomeness> Kealper.. read Steam
#3008 [15:53] <mib_i98x5g> @genshou i download the dropbox thing and theres a notepad open... exactly what am i supposed to do with it? Im clueless
#3009 [15:54] <genshou> mib_i98x5g, it should be running Minecraft when you run the .bat
#3010 [15:54] <genshou> Idea! Notch should go to a mall and we can all form a line and sit on his lap one by one
#3011 [15:54] <genshou> :D
#3012 [15:54] <Kealper> ^
#3013 [15:54] <rasin> well, who could help me with my problem
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#3015 [15:54] <Kealper> rasin: it works fine without any mods or anything installed, right?
#3016 [15:55] <genshou> (that would be a long line... they would need to give us number tickets so we could leave to use the bathroom)
#3017 [15:55] <The_Gambit> I need help. I have been waiting for over forever now and the minecraft will not accept a type of payment
#3018 [15:55] <rasin> yeah, but I bought minecraft mostly FOR the mods
#3019 [15:55] <mib_i98x5g> @genshou yeah when i ran it i got the notepad and a window with the little java teacup - said window has nothing in it.. and nothings changed since
#3020 [15:55] <rasin> especially the aether mod
#3021 [15:55] <iAreProduction> Hello, could someone help me?
#3022 [15:55] <mib_i98x5g> i can c 'n' p what the notepad said?
#3023 [15:55] <genshou> Not if it's more than one line of text
#3024 [15:55] <Kealper> mib_i98x5g: Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
#3025 [15:55] <genshou> use pastebin
#3026 [15:56] <oldtopmanserver> ??> The_Gambit payment
#3027 [15:56] <VoxelHead> The_Gambit: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#3028 [15:56] <genshou> ninja'd by Kealper :)
#3029 [15:56] <VoxelHead> The_Gambit: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please send an email to payment@mojang.com. See also ?? support
#3030 [15:56] <SheepNeedMilk> iAreProduction with?
#3031 [15:56] <rasin> fuck my life
#3032 [15:56] <mib_i98x5g> @genshou no theres several lines.
#3033 [15:56] <Kealper> rasin: well, the issue with asking Mojang for technical support is that THEIR version of the game works, they don't deal with and don't care to help modified versions of their game
#3034 [15:57] <iAreProduction> Well when i try to start the Minecraft, nothing seems wrong, but the game shutsdown before it reaches the menu...
#3035 [15:57] <genshou> rasin, if you're having trouble with mods, there's #risucraft, also several tutorials on using/installing mods
#3036 [15:57] <Kealper> iAreProduction: has it worked before?
#3037 [15:57] <The_Gambit> VoxelHead, Does it take over 24hrs?
#3038 [15:57] <iAreProduction> not on this PC
#3039 [15:57] <genshou> The guys here can help a little with getting the game running, but when it comes to mods that's not officially supported in this channel
#3040 [15:57] <oldtopmanserver> ??> The_Gambit bot
#3041 [15:57] <VoxelHead> The_Gambit: (bot) Yes, I'm a bot.
#3042 [15:58] <oldtopmanserver> The_Gambit: Read the topic. Thats about all we can do for you.
#3043 [15:58] <mib_i98x5g> so im guessing there's no definitive fix for this black screen issue?...
#3044 [15:58] <genshou> mib_i98x5g, it entirely depends on what's causing it, which is why the error report is important
#3045 [15:58] <The_Gambit> That Does not Help As Well As talking with a person.
#3046 [15:58] <rasin> yeah, but that doesn't help me if there's no FILES
#3047 [15:58] <Kealper> mib_i98x5g: there is no single black screen issue, a black screen'd minecraft is like a blue screen'd Windows, it is caused by millions of things
#3048 [15:58] <genshou> so copy it to pastebin and give us the URL and we may be able to figure out why
#3049 [15:59] <Kealper> rasin: if it's running right now, there are obviously files, just not where you're looking
#3050 [15:59] <mib_i98x5g> yeah... call im not particularly tech savy... wth is a pastebin?
#3051 [15:59] <Kealper> mib_i98x5g: http://pastebin.com
#3052 [15:59] <SheepNeedMilk> Do i have to start a new world for my mods to work?
#3053 [15:59] <genshou> rasin, what do you mean no files? Do you not have a .minecraft folder with the appropriate bin files?
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#3055 [16:00] <iAreProduction> Does anyone known a solution? i dont even get error messages or sounds.
#3056 [16:00] <Kealper> SheepNeedMilk: that depends on the mods, but we don't deal with mod support in here
#3057 [16:00] <Kealper> ??> iAreProduction win/dxdiag
#3058 [16:00] <VoxelHead> iAreProduction: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3059 [16:00] <VoxelHead> iAreProduction: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3060 [16:00] <mib_i98x5g> Okai.. another question how do i even copy this notebad thing. 'cause i cant highlight it?
#3061 [16:00] <genshou> SheepNeedMilk, if the mod adds new blocks to world gen (e.g. new ores), then you need to visit unexplored chunks or generate a new world to get those blocks
#3062 [16:01] <rasin> fuck minecraft
#3063 [16:01] <The_Gambit> Could Someone Help Me through the process of gifting money from a paypal from a credit card. (will try this)
#3064 [16:01] <rasin> i'm going back to runescape
#3065 [16:01] <Kealper> rasin: watch the language, please
#3066 [16:01] <genshou> mib_i98x5g, if it's in a black 'command line' type window, right click and hit "Select All", then press Enter to copy
#3067 [16:01] <Kealper> The_Gambit: what exactly is the issue?
#3068 [16:02] <Kealper> The_Gambit: are you using a prepaid credit card?
#3069 [16:02] <mib_i98x5g> okai ive pasted in that pastebin. now what?
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#3071 [16:02] <The_Gambit> Keep Trying to use My credit Card To Buy Minecraft. Does not seem to work.
#3072 [16:02] <genshou> save the pastebin and give us the URL
#3073 [16:02] <The_Gambit> No i am not using a prepaid Credit card.
#3074 [16:02] <Kealper> The_Gambit: is the payment clearing on your end?
#3075 [16:02] <Kealper> The_Gambit: or is it thowing errors?
#3076 [16:02] <mib_i98x5g> save? well heres the url anyway http://pastebin.com/
#3077 [16:03] <mib_i98x5g> neverimd
#3078 [16:03] <Kealper> mib_i98x5g: wrong url
#3079 [16:03] <genshou> mib_i98x5g, wrong one :P
#3080 [16:03] <mib_i98x5g> yup i gather
#3081 [16:03] <mib_i98x5g> sorry i have no idea wtf im doing...
#3082 [16:03] <The_Gambit> Haven't Seen It on the bank Transaction Or I havent gottenAny type of email.
#3083 [16:03] <genshou> Create a new paste on pastebin, paste the text into the window, hit the Submit button, and copy the URL it gives you for that paste.
#3084 [16:03] <Morrolan> mib_i98x5g: After you pasted the text, hit 'submit': http://i.imgur.com/15AqN.jpg
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#3086 [16:04] <mib_i98x5g> dun http://pastebin.com/9Gz4EfVW
#3087 [16:04] <mib_i98x5g> hopefully.
#3088 [16:04] <Kealper> D3sTiNy_DonT
#3089 [16:04] <Kealper> whoops
#3090 [16:04] <Kealper> disregard that, my irc client pastes when i right click >.>
#3091 [16:04] <SheepNeedMilk> When i go to create a new world, minecraft stops responding.
#3092 [16:04] * Kealper is so glad that was just one line of text in his clipboard
#3092 [16:05] <genshou> Kealper, seems like a feature you should disable
#3093 [16:05] <Morrolan> Happens to me every now and then in Putty, Kealper. ^^
#3094 [16:05] <Kealper> genshou: it's part of putty, and normally it's useful, unless you set some chip dip too close to the right side of your mouse lol
#3095 [16:05] <Schala_Zeal> arg... sneaky Minecraft redownloaded the sounds I muted
#3096 [16:06] <genshou> Schala_Zeal, you need 'Sound Mod Enabler' to fix that.
#3097 [16:06] <Schala_Zeal> ok
#3098 [16:06] <Kealper> or AudioMod, i think that can do it too
#3099 [16:06] <genshou> Nope, AudioMod only allows custom mod sounds to be added, doesn't protect default sounds from 'fixing'
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#3101 [16:07] <Kealper> iirc it has an option to disable the default sound protection
#3102 [16:07] <Kealper> but that option is disabled by default
#3103 [16:07] <genshou> It has no config file, so unlikely
#3104 [16:07] <The_Gambit> Haven't Seen It on the bank Transaction Or I havent gotten Any type of email.
#3105 [16:07] <genshou> unless that was added in 1.7 versions
#3106 [16:07] <iAreProduction> Kealper or Voxelhead: http://pastebin.com/udRfZCJt
#3107 [16:07] <mib_i98x5g> im assuming that was the right pastebin thing, any ideas (im not being impatient or anything, just wondering)
#3108 [16:07] <kermit> Hi, I am trying to connect to any of the servers I use and it will not connect. Help!
#3109 [16:07] <genshou> mib_i98x5g, do you know how to get to your .minecraft folder?
#3110 [16:08] <mib_i98x5g> yes
#3111 [16:08] <mib_i98x5g> @genshou yes
#3112 [16:08] <genshou> Go to .minecraft\bin\natives and see if there are several .dll files there, most notably lwjgl.dll
#3113 [16:08] <Kealper> iAreProduction: first: that computer has crap for ram, second: Minecraft isn't working because you need graphics drivers, and the ones you have are so generic that i can't tell you what drivers you need
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#3115 [16:09] <kermit> Kealper are you talking to me?
#3116 [16:09] <Kealper> kermit: was your name in front of what i said?
#3117 [16:09] <fawlar> intel(r) 950 is it safe to upgrade that
#3118 [16:09] <kermit> No-this is all new to me.
#3119 [16:09] <iAreProduction> Kealper: The ram i know, trying to fix it, about the graphics, i have looked for drivers for a long time, but i cant find them.
#3120 [16:10] <Kealper> kermit: i'll have the person's name i am directing the message at when i say something
#3121 [16:10] <genshou> kermit: 'it will not connect' isn't much info. Elaborate?
#3122 [16:10] <iAreProduction> Kealper: Isn't it a problem too that i have 2 monitors?
#3123 [16:10] <Morrolan> iAreProduction: It is.
#3124 [16:10] <mib_i98x5g> @ genshou theres 8 in total (1 is lwjgl.dll and 1 is wljgl64.dll)
#3125 [16:11] <Kealper> iAreProduction: no, lots of people run dual monitors, that is only an issue if you are on a mac
#3126 [16:11] <Morrolan> Oh, nevermind me, iAreProduction.
#3127 [16:11] <genshou> Odd... from the error it almost seems like it's unable to find the libraries
#3128 [16:11] <Morrolan> Thought it applied to all OSes.
#3129 [16:11] <fawlar> greyvulpine is it safe to upgrade intel(r) 950
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#3131 [16:11] <Kealper> Morrolan: only macs from what i've seen, i even run a dual monitor setup, and i think grey does too
#3132 [16:11] <iAreProduction> Kealper: No, not a mac.
#3133 [16:11] <genshou> Have you tried deleting your bin folder and redownloading it?
#3134 [16:11] <Morrolan> genshou: You could try to update lwgjl manually: http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#3135 [16:11] <mib_i98x5g> can you send me the link that brought that up again, i might have changed something.
#3136 [16:11] <Morrolan> lwjgl*
#3137 [16:11] <SheepNeedMilk> any way i can make minecraft run faster?
#3138 [16:12] <Ketsueki> ??> iAreProduction gpu/ati
#3139 [16:12] <mib_i98x5g> Investing lots of money into its development?
#3140 [16:12] <genshou> Also what Morrolan said, if it's a problem with lwjgl being screwed up that might help
#3141 [16:12] <Morrolan> SheepNeedMilk: Decrease render distance, set graphics to fast, disable the advanced opengl thingy
#3142 [16:12] <Ketsueki> iAreProduction: your system reports it has: RADEON 7000 SERIES
#3143 [16:12] * Kealper isn't sure that would run Minecraft at all
#3143 [16:12] <Ketsueki> iAreProduction: you have 32MB of ram according to the output...
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#3145 [16:12] <iAreProduction> Ketsueki what do you mean with gpu/ati?
#3146 [16:12] <Ketsueki> which won't nearl be enough
#3147 [16:12] <Kealper> 32mb of vram.....
#3148 [16:13] <genshou> mib_i98x5g, send you the link that brought what up?
#3149 [16:13] <Morrolan> Kealper: Oo
#3150 [16:13] <Kealper> iAreProduction: if that runs Minecraft at all, it's not going to be playable
#3151 [16:13] <Ketsueki> ??> iAreProduction gpu/amd
#3152 [16:13] <VoxelHead> iAreProduction: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#3153 [16:13] <The_Gambit> Could Someone Help me When they get the Chance.
#3154 [16:13] <Morrolan> The_Gambit: What's your issue again?
#3155 [16:13] <genshou> o.O AMD gobbled up ATI?
#3156 [16:13] <mib_i98x5g> @genshou i ran it again and it says exactly the same stuff (i meant the dropbox)
#3157 [16:13] <Ketsueki> genshou: yeah, quite a while ago
#3158 [16:13] <genshou> Wow... first BFG and now ATI... I have been out of the industry too long
#3159 [16:13] <Ketsueki> genshou: ATI is just a brand name now
#3160 [16:13] <Morrolan> genshou: Like, some years ago? ;D
#3161 [16:13] <Kealper> ^
#3162 [16:14] <__import__> Sup, pooples?
#3163 [16:14] <Morrolan> the sky, __import__
#3164 [16:14] <iAreProduction> Ketsueki: So i need to update my graphics cards?
#3165 [16:14] <__import__> Morrolan wins 1 internet
#3166 [16:14] <Ketsueki> iAreProduction: Really? You need to update your whole computer.
#3167 [16:14] <genshou> mib_i98x5g, try updating lwjgl with Morrolan's link
#3168 [16:14] <__import__> Sigh, removing a virus/corrupt XP from my wife's computer.
#3169 [16:15] <The_Gambit> I tried paying for Minecraft through credit card said it was purchased completed and now i am not a premium. I haven't received a email or a bank statement saying i have payed it.
#3170 [16:15] <Morrolan> The_Gambit: Did you get charged the money? Also, when did you buy it?
#3171 [16:15] <iAreProduction> Ketsueki: Well, i have two more PC here in my room doing nothing, i only use this one as a SERVER, wait i shall make a dxdiag of one of those other PC's.....
#3172 [16:15] <genshou> It boggles my mind that Mojang takes so long to process electronic payments, in a day and age where worldwide communications are nearly instant
#3173 [16:15] <Ketsueki> iAreProduction: your graphics card is like 5 /marketing/ generations behind. AMD has since released 8000, 9000, x, and HD series cards.
#3174 [16:16] <genshou> Any other website (even international), I can buy something with my credit card and my bank statement shows it immediately x.x
#3175 [16:16] <The_Gambit> Looks Like Nothing charged (Yet) and Its been over 24hours sinced i paid it.
#3176 [16:16] <Kealper> genshou: most transactions are instant, but some go wrong because Mojang has a dumb payment processing backend
#3177 [16:16] <genshou> Yeah, that's what I mean.
#3178 [16:16] <iAreProduction> Ketsueki: Ill be back, gonna connect on of those other pc's and send a dxdiag.. will you still be here in say.... 15 minutes tops?
#3179 [16:16] <Ketsueki> iAreProduction: Yeah, don't try to run it on this spare parts server
#3180 [16:17] <Ketsueki> iAreProduction: probably not; ask for help from someone else.
#3181 [16:17] <genshou> Ketsueki, I was using a BFG video card from spring 2007 until it died in November. How many generations back was that? >.>
#3182 [16:17] <Kealper> genshou: and the reason why it looks like there are a lot that go wrong is because we only ever see the ones that go wrong, they are pulling like 10k payments a day, so there are many, many more that go right, and without a hitch
#3183 [16:17] <genshou> Heh, that part is true.
#3184 [16:18] * Kealper needs food, so.....be back in a bit
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#3185 [16:19] <fawlar> i need help
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#3187 [16:19] <Dallas> Hello.
#3188 [16:19] <Morrolan> hey fawlar and Dallas
#3189 [16:20] <Dallas> Every time I try to run Minecraft, I get a Java Runtime Environment error.
#3190 [16:20] <Morrolan> Dallas: Could you give us the complete error? (If it's more than two lines, use www.pastebin.com)
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#3192 [16:20] <fawlar> every time i run minecraft the pixel format couldnt be accelarated
#3193 [16:21] <Dallas> http://mibpaste.com/1qjkB9
#3194 [16:21] <Morrolan> fawlar: Do you know how to update your video drivers?
#3195 [16:21] <Dallas> I can log in on Minecraft perfectly
#3196 [16:21] <Dallas> I mean
#3197 [16:21] <Dallas> Start it
#3198 [16:21] <Morrolan> Dallas: Same for you, do you know how to update your video drivers?
#3199 [16:21] <Dallas> Once I log in it crashes
#3200 [16:21] <Dallas> I just updated them now
#3201 [16:21] <fawlar> nope but i know wich video driver i have
#3202 [16:21] <Dallas> I still get the same error
#3203 [16:22] <Morrolan> Dallas: How did you do this? (Don't tell me through device manager please)
#3204 [16:22] <Morrolan> fawlar: Ok, which one do you have?
#3205 [16:22] <The_Gambit> morrolan, you ever help finishing my problem.
#3206 [16:22] <fawlar> the Intel (R) 950
#3207 [16:22] <Dallas> I went to my Drivers website, entered the details, and it gave me an update.
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#3209 [16:22] <fawlar> is it safe to upgrade that
#3210 [16:23] <Morrolan> The_Gambit: Hmm? Didn't Kealper take you over? I suggest you wait another day or two, can't do much else.
#3211 [16:23] <Morrolan> Dallas: Ok. Could you try to completely remove any existing Java installation, and reinstal Java?
#3212 [16:23] <Dallas> Okay
#3213 [16:24] <genshou> The_Gambit, if you've emailed Mojang there's nothing you can do but wait. If it doesn't happen within a few days, report it as a fraudulent transaction and try again.
#3214 [16:24] <Ketsueki> Dallas: also just checking, but after updating your drivers you /did/ reboot your computer right?
#3215 [16:24] <The_Gambit> Well, this is Kinda bull. My friend buys it and gets the whole game working within 5mins it taking me over a day whats with that?
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#3217 [16:24] <Dallas> Yeah I did.
#3218 [16:24] <genshou> We can't dig into Mojang's payment database to figure out if it's pending or not for you.
#3219 [16:24] <Morrolan> The_Gambit: For most people it's instant, for some it's not.
#3220 [16:24] <Dallas> Don't worry Gambit, I've been working for over a day. Patience is a virtue. :3
#3221 [16:24] <fawlar> morrolan the Intel (R) 950
#3222 [16:25] <Colinboy09> Can anybody help me with minecraft?
#3223 [16:25] <Ketsueki> >>? Colinboy09 ask
#3224 [16:25] <fawlar> morrolan is it safe to upgrade it
#3225 [16:25] <iAreProduction> Guess my VERY old laptop wouldnt run it either héh? http://pastebin.com/04qdZ836
#3226 [16:25] <Morrolan> fawlar: Sorry, yes, it is.
#3227 [16:25] <Morrolan> Ketsueki: Watch and learn. :p
#3228 [16:25] <Ketsueki> Colinboy09: as precice as possible, including the operating system (windows, os X, etc) and EXACTLY the sequence of events.
#3229 [16:25] <Ketsueki> Morrolan: oops ??>
#3230 [16:26] <Morrolan> ??>> Colinboy09 ask
#3231 [16:26] <Dallas> Should I restart my computer once removing Java? Or should I just reinstall it right away?
#3232 [16:26] <Morrolan> Ketsueki: or yea. >> for notice, > for normal chat
#3233 [16:26] <Colinboy09> Evry time i try t log in it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#3234 [16:26] <fawlar> morrolan okay but how old is the video card?
#3235 [16:26] <Ketsueki> ??> Colinboy09 ask
#3236 [16:26] <VoxelHead> Colinboy09: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3237 [16:26] <VoxelHead> Colinboy09: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3238 [16:26] <iAreProduction> Wait il try to get all the dxdiag's of all the PC's and Laptop's in our house. xD
#3239 [16:26] <Morrolan> fawlar: Well, it's an integrated graphics card, so it's not really suited to run any game.
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#3241 [16:27] <fawlar> fuck
#3242 [16:27] <Ketsueki> fawlar: if you're lucky you can get a handful of FPS out of it... really laggy poor exp
#3243 [16:27] <Colinboy09> no its windows 7 plus it has a very advanced graphics card
#3244 [16:27] <Morrolan> iAreProduction: THat laptop doesn't have any graphics driver either it seems :D
#3245 [16:27] <Morrolan> fawlar: Well, you could try to update its drivers, it can't hurt.
#3246 [16:27] <Morrolan> Colinboy09: We weren't talking to you.
#3247 [16:27] <Dallas> Should I restart once I'm done removing Java? Or reinstall it right away?
#3248 [16:27] <Morrolan> Dallas: A restart never hurts.
#3249 [16:28] <Ketsueki> Colinboy09: do you have a Firewall that is blocking Minecraft from talking to the internet? Are you sure your unblocked both the launcher and the minecraft/java?
#3250 [16:28] <Dallas> Okay, I'll be right back then. :3
#3251 [16:28] <Morrolan> Colinboy09: a) Is your system date correct?
#3252 [16:28] <Morrolan> Colinboy09: b) Does your Windows username happen to end with a '!' ?
#3253 [16:28] <Colinboy09> no for the past year its been able to run but i could check now
#3254 [16:28] <fawlar> are you sure that i can upgrade it without it will hurt the computer
#3255 [16:28] <Morrolan> fawlar: Yes.
#3256 [16:28] <iAreProduction> lol, brb
#3257 [16:28] <Colinboy09> no
#3258 [16:28] <fawlar> okay but how do i do
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#3260 [16:29] <Morrolan> ??> fawlar win/dxdiag
#3261 [16:29] <VoxelHead> fawlar: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3262 [16:29] <VoxelHead> fawlar: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3263 [16:29] <Morrolan> Follow these instructions please, fawlar, then I'll be able to give you a download link.
#3264 [16:29] <SheepNeedMilk> Why does it matter if the windows username end in a !
#3265 [16:29] <Morrolan> Java doesn't like it, SheepNeedMilk
#3266 [16:30] <mib_m1j7bb> Can someone help me real quick? I keep getting a error message that says pixel format not accelarted on the old version Can any1 help? :D
#3267 [16:30] <Morrolan> mib_m1j7bb: You'll have to update your video drivers. Do you know how to do so?
#3268 [16:30] <Colinboy09> i did research on the fourms and many people have been having this problem since 1.7
#3269 [16:30] <mib_m1j7bb> I have..
#3270 [16:31] <mib_m1j7bb> I did that before coming here
#3271 [16:31] <Morrolan> Colinboy09: So, your system date is correct and your windows username doesn't end in a '!', right?
#3272 [16:31] <Colinboy09> yes
#3273 [16:31] <fawlar> its the old verson i play too
#3274 [16:31] <Morrolan> Colinboy09: Also, did you make sure that there is no security software blocking Minecraft?
#3275 [16:32] <Colinboy09> yes and ther isnt
#3276 [16:32] <Morrolan> Colinboy09: Ok. Can you connect to https://login.minecraft.net in your browser?
#3277 [16:32] <Morrolan> (It should show 'bad login')
#3278 [16:32] <genshou> Okay, I'm going back to playing Minecraft now. :D
#3279 [16:33] <Morrolan> genshou: Sure.
#3280 [16:33] <Morrolan> Have fun.
#3281 [16:33] <fawlar> aa fuck can you buy new game video cards to laptops
#3282 [16:33] <Colinboy09> no it says bad login
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#3284 [16:33] <Morrolan> Colinboy09: Yea, that's fine.
#3285 [16:33] <Colinboy09> oh
#3286 [16:33] <Morrolan> fawlar: Hmm, not really, no.
#3287 [16:33] <Morrolan> Colinboy09: Ok, follow these instructions please: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#3288 [16:34] <Morrolan> Colinboy09: Then, when it shows you that error, there should be some stuff in the console. Paste this on www.pastebin.com please.
#3289 [16:34] <o_O> anyone know why i would be getting redstone power going reverse through a repeater
#3290 [16:34] * Morrolan is Away, eating
#3290 [16:34] <Awesomeness> Okay, who needs help!
#3291 [16:35] * Awesomeness goes Super Saiyain 4
#3291 [16:35] <fawlar> okay but if you do that to a stationary computer
#3292 [16:35] <Colinboy09> the minecraft .jar for like linux and other
#3293 [16:35] <Ketsueki> o_O: shouldn't happen, is there any other possible source for power to the node?
#3294 [16:35] <fawlar> your favorite gohan, Vegeta,Trunks,Goku
#3295 [16:36] <fawlar> or goten
#3296 [16:36] <o_O> none
#3297 [16:36] <o_O> its just an extended redstone line
#3298 [16:36] <iAreProduction> Alright how about this laptop? http://pastebin.com/C3KR5CNH
#3299 [16:36] <o_O> that goes to a block with a torch on top
#3300 [16:36] <Ketsueki> Colinboy09: yes that .jar file; the .bat file (script) lets you run it on windows too
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#3302 [16:36] <fawlar> goodbye goodbye
#3303 [16:36] <Colinboy09> oh
#3304 [16:37] <Ketsueki> o_O: no chance for power from the sides? Also you do know that the signal flows through the diode to the side that doesn't have the moving torch right?
#3305 [16:37] <__import__> someone is telling me if I bought MC in beta version, it's free updates till release, then you need to pay. Is this true?
#3306 [16:37] <o_O> yeah
#3307 [16:37] <o_O> it works
#3308 [16:37] <o_O> just sometimes get power from the torch on the block going backwards
#3309 [16:37] <o_O> screwing up my detection circuit
#3310 [16:37] <nhg_maniac> no
#3311 [16:38] <nhg_maniac> after you bought, youll also get the release
#3312 [16:38] <Ketsueki> __import__: actually I was really pissed off/confused about that too. My current understanding is that buying in to Beta you get updates until and including the Final Release, but no 'extra packs'/'extensions' beyond that (For free).
#3313 [16:38] <Ketsueki> nhg_maniac: the way it's worded is quite poor
#3314 [16:38] <nhg_maniac> i know...
#3315 [16:38] <Ketsueki> nhg_maniac: it sounds like you buy 'beta' only and don't get final release.
#3316 [16:38] <nhg_maniac> sorry
#3317 [16:39] <iAreProduction> Anyone??
#3318 [16:39] <nhg_maniac> im from germany, my english is bad
#3319 [16:39] <Ketsueki> iAreProduction: just paste the links
#3320 [16:39] <__import__> nhg_maniac, the site says it includes the final, just curious as to updates after that
#3321 [16:39] <iAreProduction> above
#3322 [16:39] <Ketsueki> nhg_maniac: Sorry, I'm from the USA, my any other language is non-existant.
#3323 [16:39] <__import__> As I know there will be.
#3324 [16:39] <iAreProduction> Ketsueki: Read back, there is a LINK!
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#3326 [16:41] <Colinboy09> it didnt work
#3327 [16:42] <__import__> Ketsueki, who could I talk to who would know more? (besides Notch etc)
#3328 [16:42] <iAreProduction> Ketsueki: What bout that laptop?
#3329 [16:42] <Ketsueki> iAreProduction: http://pastebin.com/C3KR5CNH << might need an updated Nvidia driver for the 8200M driver. http://pastebin.com/04qdZ836 << no hope at all
#3330 [16:42] <Ketsueki> ??> iAreProduction gpu/nvidia
#3331 [16:42] <VoxelHead> iAreProduction: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
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#3333 [16:43] <iAreProduction> Ketsueki and Voxelhead: Thanks!
#3334 [16:43] <Ketsueki> __import__: pretty much everyone in here agrees with my current statement. I would suggest contacting someone via the site, but no useful addresses spring to mind.
#3335 [16:43] <__import__> k
#3336 [16:44] <Helpplox> Help plz, i want to download the minecraft game, but as i follow the link to the download on their page and open the Minecraft.exe and attempt to log in offline, it just wont work
#3337 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Helpplox - Did you pay for minecraft?
#3338 [16:44] <Helpplox> i did not
#3339 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Then you can't download it.
#3340 [16:45] <Ketsueki> __import__: looking at the whois records, if you can't find a proper place to send your inquery on minecraft.net I highly suggest you appologetically approach markus@mojang.com to forward your sales inquery to the correct department since you are unable to finda suitable address on the site.
#3341 [16:45] <Awesomeness> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FstSEOajaM
#3342 [16:45] <Awesomeness> <3 Classic
#3343 [16:45] <__import__> Ketsueki, :P
#3344 [16:45] <__import__> Thanks
#3345 [16:45] <Helpplox> i have some friends who have managed to do this, what have they done to achieve it?
#3346 [16:45] <Ketsueki> Helpplox: you can try out the older alpha / classic version.
#3347 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> They pirated it
#3348 [16:46] <Helpplox> i see, well that is not an option for me, guess i have to buy the game
#3349 [16:46] <iAreProduction> My suggestion, WANNA PLAY? just buy it.
#3350 [16:46] <Helpplox> thanks for the help!
#3351 [16:46] <Ketsueki> Helpplox: they either 1) paid, 2) are playing classic, or 3) are committing copyright infringement.
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#3353 [16:46] <Ketsueki> Hum, no my grammar is poor; committed since the infringement would be the act of making the unauthorized copy
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#3355 [16:47] <Dallas> Just came back to say, it worked.
#3356 [16:47] <Dallas> Thanks for you help.
#3357 [16:47] <Dallas> :)
#3358 [16:48] <bugweiser> my minecraft when i play after 10 min just closes what dod i do??
#3359 [16:48] <rax-> hi, how can I find out the region .mcr file that a chunk is on?
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#3363 [16:57] <majormorbid> hi could someone help me?
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#3371 [17:04] <fuogo> Hi i tried to buy Minecraft about two weeks ago and my card was rejected but my account was charged and i did not recieve a email about the purchase and never recieved the game
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#3373 [17:05] <Ketsueki> rax-: hit F3, divide your X and Z by 32 that's used in order to determine the chunk file. (the Y coord is 0-127 and only exists within a chunk)
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#3375 [17:06] <lemon-rev> fuogo did you ever check with your bank and find out if the payment went though
#3376 [17:06] <omgihateerrors> i cant get innto MC :(
#3377 [17:06] <omgihateerrors> plz help
#3378 [17:06] <lemon-rev> fuogo what happens if you login to the minecraft.net site and try and click broswer
#3379 [17:06] <lemon-rev> omgihateerrors i cant help with just that info
#3380 [17:07] <omgihateerrors> ehhh, when i logg inn the MC screen turnes black
#3381 [17:07] <lemon-rev> good, ok
#3382 [17:07] <lemon-rev> omgihateerrors are you useing windows / mac
#3383 [17:07] <omgihateerrors> windows, the good stuff....
#3384 [17:07] <lemon-rev> good stuff
#3385 [17:08] <Ketsueki> rax-: EG file with -1 and 0 in order coverx [-32,0],[0-127],[0,32] inclusive.
#3386 [17:08] <lemon-rev> omgihateerrors can you please goto control pannel add remove java . reinstall it via java.com
#3387 [17:09] <omgihateerrors> yeah, i can try
#3388 [17:09] <omgihateerrors> but idk if that is the problem
#3389 [17:09] <lemon-rev> omgihateerrors please do as i ask then we can follow up on if the game still isnt working
#3390 [17:09] <omgihateerrors> k
#3391 [17:11] <lemon-rev> brb
#3392 [17:11] <omgihateerrors> k
#3393 [17:11] <lemon-rev> back
#3394 [17:11] <omgihateerrors> that was fast :P
#3395 [17:12] <lemon-rev> i was testing to see if a game had done its stuff
#3396 [17:12] <omgihateerrors> okey, lets try to run MC
#3397 [17:13] <lemon-rev> yes
#3398 [17:13] <omgihateerrors> now i am at the login panel and every thing sems to be okay
#3399 [17:13] <rax-> Ketsueki thanks but I have no idea what you mean :\
#3400 [17:14] <rax-> the chunks in question are 26, -41 and 23, -45
#3401 [17:14] <omgihateerrors> and i get the black screen
#3402 [17:14] <omgihateerrors> it cant be java
#3403 [17:14] <Ketsueki> rax-: divide all those numbers by 32, discarding the remainder
#3404 [17:15] <lemon-rev> ??> omgihateerrors win/dxdiag
#3405 [17:15] <VoxelHead> omgihateerrors: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3406 [17:15] <VoxelHead> omgihateerrors: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#3408 [17:15] <rax-> 0.8125, -1.28125
#3409 [17:15] <rax-> ?
#3410 [17:16] <xorcon> hey guys can u help me out?
#3411 [17:16] <lemon-rev> depends
#3412 [17:16] <xorcon> on what?
#3413 [17:16] <rax-> so it would be r.0.-1.mcr?
#3414 [17:16] <lemon-rev> what your problem is
#3415 [17:17] <lemon-rev> rax- and that other dude just pm eatch other your stuff please take it off channel :P
#3416 [17:17] <Ketsueki> rax-: actually I'm slightly incorrect. It's FLOOR(Coord/32) so 0,-2 and 0,-2 in this case.
#3417 [17:17] <lemon-rev> ketsueki please pm rax
#3418 [17:17] <Ketsueki> lemon-rev: I'm done
#3419 [17:17] <omgihateerrors> http://pastebin.com/r5sRvTsU
#3420 [17:17] <xorcon> okwell i play this game on my dads computer and it works perfect but when i go to y coputer wen i load it up instaed of saying single playe and multiplayer and so on it just has white blocks instead of letters
#3421 [17:17] <lemon-rev> that way you two can discuss it with out having all this text in chat to interupt you guys
#3422 [17:17] <lemon-rev> ty omb
#3423 [17:17] <lemon-rev> omg*
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#3426 [17:18] <rax-> so both chunks are in the same region?
#3427 [17:19] <xorcon> im not sure it just has white blocks instead of lltrs
#3428 [17:19] <xorcon> at the start menu
#3429 [17:19] <omgihateerrors> can you see anny thing wrong?
#3430 [17:20] <xorcon> yes it wont say the letters
#3431 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Could you screenshot it, upload it to imgur.com and give us the address to it?
#3432 [17:20] <xorcon> one sec
#3433 [17:20] <lemon-rev> omgihateerrors http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx < is latest drivers but , ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series < i cant find your date of driver on dxdiag its strange
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#3435 [17:21] <omgihateerrors> its done :på
#3436 [17:21] <omgihateerrors> :P *
#3437 [17:22] <lemon-rev> can you test it again then ?
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#3439 [17:22] <omgihateerrors> y
#3440 [17:22] <lemon-rev> ty
#3441 [17:22] <xorcon> how do i screen shot it?
#3442 [17:22] <omgihateerrors> and the same thing hapes
#3443 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#3444 [17:22] <omgihateerrors> hapens*
#3445 [17:23] <omgihateerrors> happens*
#3446 [17:23] <lemon-rev> omgihateerrors please log into minecraft.net and click broswer in the home page plase
#3447 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - What operating system are you on?
#3448 [17:23] <omgihateerrors> k
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#3450 [17:23] <mib_6ejd7i> hi
#3451 [17:24] <omgihateerrors> aaannnnnndddd the same thing...
#3452 [17:24] <xorcon> window
#3453 [17:24] <lemon-rev> ok
#3454 [17:24] <xorcon> s
#3455 [17:24] <lemon-rev> ??> omgihateerrors win/reinst
#3456 [17:24] <VoxelHead> omgihateerrors: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3457 [17:24] <VoxelHead> omgihateerrors: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3458 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - Press the prnt scrn button on your keyboard, paste it in Paint, save it, upload the file to imgur.com
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#3460 [17:25] <Ketsueki> Having re-read the documentation... Oh; chunks are 16x16, regions are (16*32)x(16*32)
#3461 [17:26] <xorcon> ok almost done
#3462 [17:26] <omgihateerrors> uptating
#3463 [17:26] <lemon-rev> k
#3464 [17:26] <omgihateerrors> and it workes :D
#3465 [17:26] <omgihateerrors> omg
#3466 [17:26] <lemon-rev> good stuff
#3467 [17:26] <omgihateerrors> what witch craft is this ;D
#3468 [17:27] <lemon-rev> you dont want to know
#3469 [17:27] <omgihateerrors> hehe :P
#3470 [17:27] * lemon-rev ok im done for the moment testing game
#3470 [17:27] <pudgetta> i need some help
#3471 [17:27] <omgihateerrors> you just saved my day :D thx A LOT!!!
#3472 [17:27] <omgihateerrors> if i wrote it right :P
#3473 [17:27] <omgihateerrors> bb and thx ^^
#3474 [17:27] <lemon-rev> lol
#3475 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> pudgetta - With?
#3476 [17:28] <pudgetta> every time i go to play it says failed to lauch
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#3478 [17:28] <pudgetta> launch
#3479 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Classic or beta?
#3480 [17:28] <pudgetta> beta and classic
#3481 [17:28] <Schala_Zeal> I'm having a bit of trouble making obsidian. I'm pouring water on lava but all it does is make cobblestone
#3482 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Schala_Zeal - You need to pour water on a lava source block
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#3484 [17:29] <Schala_Zeal> not the mouth?
#3485 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> No, it can't be flowing lava
#3486 [17:29] <xorcon> http://imgur.com/JOpH4 theres the link
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#3488 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> pudgetta - Both beta and classic?
#3489 [17:29] <pudgetta> yes
#3490 [17:29] <Schala_Zeal> guess that's why the reverse works -- pouring lava on a water source
#3491 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Both in the browser and the downloaded client?
#3492 [17:30] <pudgetta> its not downloaded
#3493 [17:30] <pudgetta> i play the beta online
#3494 [17:30] <xorcon> http://imgur.com/JOpH4 greyvulphine hjere it is
#3495 [17:30] <Opeth> I am, bad ass.
#3496 [17:30] <Opeth> My hidden chest kit at the beginning contains one torch.
#3497 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - Go to your start menu, in the Run Command, type in: %appdata%
#3498 [17:30] <xorcon> ik its not downloaded
#3499 [17:31] <Opeth> Hm, wrong lobby.
#3500 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - Find the .minecraft folder, delete the bin folder and texturepacks folder inside
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#3502 [17:31] <pudgetta> wat am i supposed to do to play
#3503 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> pudgetta - Could you try the downloaded client?
#3504 [17:32] <pudgetta> ya hold on
#3505 [17:32] <Dr_Cry> my minecraft says out of memory but i don't know what too do
#3506 [17:35] <pudgetta> tried to download it. i used adobe to open it and it said the file was damaged
#3507 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> pudgetta - Rename it, add .exe to the end of the file.
#3508 [17:36] <Awesomeness> Pudgetta: Use Mozilla Firefox to download Minecraft.
#3509 [17:37] <pudgetta> thanks GreyVulpine! really hepled
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#3513 [17:39] <Anelaidlives> Hey
#3514 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3515 [17:40] <Anelaidlives> Is this where I can go for help with Mincraft?
#3516 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Indeed it is
#3517 [17:40] <Anelaidlives> Thanks! The issue I have is that the Nether is causing my game to glitch
#3518 [17:41] <Anelaidlives> Whenever I enter or leave it, the world acts weird. Large chunks of land are invisible and things like doors don't move
#3519 [17:41] <Anelaidlives> or at least don't show the animation
#3520 [17:41] <o_O> is this in SSP or SMP>?
#3521 [17:41] <Anelaidlives> SSP
#3522 [17:41] <Anelaidlives> Restarting the game helps, but I was hoping for a solution other than that since this has happened every time
#3523 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Does it happen with other saved worlds? Tried creating a new world?
#3524 [17:42] <Anelaidlives> Is there a way I could just give myself obsidion to test it on a new world? I don't really want to go through allt he trouble of getting it
#3525 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Yes, either with a third party inventory editor like InvEdit, or by modding your minecraft with TooManyItems
#3526 [17:42] <Anelaidlives> Okay
#3527 [17:43] <Dr_Cry> can some1 help me?
#3528 [17:44] <Awesomeness> ??> Dr_Cry dont/tweet
#3529 [17:44] <VoxelHead> Dr_Cry: (dont/tweet) IRC has a very generous limit on the length of its messages. Please, for the sake of our sanity, use complete words, such as 'you' and 'are', and not 'u' and 'r'.
#3530 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Dr_Cry - How much RAm do you have?
#3531 [17:45] <Dr_Cry> i will check it
#3532 [17:46] <Dr_Cry> 3071 MB
#3533 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, I don't think there's anything you can do about it. Wait for the next patch, hopefully it'll be fixed.
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#3535 [17:47] <o_O> in your task manager, how much ram does it show you have free?
#3536 [17:48] <Dr_Cry> soo i ca'n't do anything till next patch?
#3537 [17:48] <Dr_Cry> can't
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#3539 [17:49] <mib_ftfbc8> i need help
#3540 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> With?
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#3542 [17:51] <mib_ftfbc8> minecraft wont start
#3543 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> How are you trying to launch it?
#3544 [17:52] <Anelaidlives> Okay, I tested it
#3545 [17:52] <Anelaidlives> I was able to enter and leave the Nether without the glitch in the new world
#3546 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> Anelaidlives - Then there might be something corrupt with your current map..
#3547 [17:53] <Anelaidlives> The only thing I can say about the effected/affected save is that: 1.) I put the portal near my house, which has a lot of doors, glasses, and torches. 2.) I updated from the PC gamer demo
#3548 [17:53] <mib_ftfbc8> with firefox, its sat the pixel format is not accelerated
#3549 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Anelaidlives - One possible solution would be a to try a map editor like MCedit. It has a Repair chunks capability
#3550 [17:53] <Anelaidlives> Oh cool
#3551 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> It'll be buried in the ctrl menu, under world info
#3552 [17:53] <Anelaidlives> Well the chunks repair if I reset
#3553 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Reset?
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#3555 [17:53] <Anelaidlives> exit the game and reenter it
#3556 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> No
#3557 [17:54] <Anelaidlives> brb
#3558 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_ftfbc8 - What operating system are you on? Windows? Mac? Linux?
#3559 [17:54] <mib_ftfbc8> windows
#3560 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag? It'll help us diagnose what's wrong
#3561 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_ftfbc8 win/dxdiag
#3562 [17:55] <VoxelHead> mib_ftfbc8: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3563 [17:55] <VoxelHead> mib_ftfbc8: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3564 [17:56] <mib_ftfbc8> whats the win + R keys?
#3565 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> The windows key is the one between the ctrl and alt keys on your keyboard. Has the windows logo on it
#3566 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Press that and the R key at the same time
#3567 [17:58] <mib_ftfbc8> alright i saved it to my desktop, now what?
#3568 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#3571 [17:59] <mib_yybnlt> alright
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#3573 [18:00] <panitaliemom> let me know when its my turn
#3574 [18:00] <Zw> Grey, i have a screen -x minecraft window, but cant scroll in the logg, is there a way to enable that? Had it before :P or is this to offtopic?
#3575 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> What is the pastebin address that it send you to?
#3576 [18:00] <panitaliemom> please and thank you
#3577 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Zw - Sorry, I have no idea.
#3578 [18:00] <mib_yybnlt> whats the link again that i paste it to?
#3579 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com
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#3581 [18:01] <The_Gambit> !paid The_Gambit
#3582 [18:01] <panitaliemom> ha
#3583 [18:01] <panitaliemom> i know i paid
#3584 [18:02] <The_Gambit> says i paid but didnt go thro
#3585 [18:02] <panitaliemom> idk, probobly just some credit card bullshit
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#3587 [18:04] <mib_yybnlt> i pasted it.
#3588 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> What is the address the website sends you to now? Look in your address bar
#3589 [18:05] <mib_yybnlt> http://pastebin.com/8Kw86Mj4
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#3591 [18:07] <mib_8xa1nh> Where is the download for the offline version of minecraft? it says I never downloaded it
#3592 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> You're running a NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 on Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit, the drivers you want to download are at:
#3593 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-275.33-whql-driver.html
#3594 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_8xa1nh - Did you pay for minecraft?
#3595 [18:07] <mib_8xa1nh> yep
#3596 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> The launcher for minecraft is at: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
#3597 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> It'll download the files upon a successful login
#3598 [18:08] <mib_8xa1nh> its just which one do I download all?
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#3600 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> The one for your operating system..
#3601 [18:09] <Re-dead> I need help.
#3602 [18:09] <Re-dead> Anyone?
#3603 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Nope, nobody's here
#3604 [18:09] <Re-dead> I cant launch the game.
#3605 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> And why is that?
#3606 [18:09] <Re-dead> I dont know
#3607 [18:09] <Re-dead> Nothing happens.
#3608 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Then how do you know you can't launch it?
#3609 [18:09] <Re-dead> When I log in it flashes me out.
#3610 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> So the launcher works, you have a login prompt?
#3611 [18:09] <mib_yybnlt> alright so i download the driver then minecraft?
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#3613 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_yybnlt - Yes
#3614 [18:10] <Re-dead> When I launch it it instantly closes.
#3615 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Re-dead - What operating system are you on?
#3616 [18:10] <Re-dead> Windows 7?
#3617 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Okay, so you've downloaded the minecraft.exe file, double clicked on it, and nothing happens at all? Or do you see something flash and close?
#3618 [18:11] <__import__> Re-dead, run it from console to see the error message
#3619 [18:12] <Anelaidlives> okay, I am back
#3620 [18:12] <Anelaidlives> I downloaded MCedit
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#3622 [18:13] <mib_yybnlt> it took me to a minecraft launcher
#3623 [18:15] <mib_yybnlt> im installing the garphics driver
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#3625 [18:15] <Anelaidlives> One thing I heard about, as well, was a way to update old worlds
#3626 [18:16] <mib_8xa1nh> I downloaded both downloads for windows and typed in my user and it says not premium and says I didnt download the offline version still...
#3627 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Anelaidlives - MC would've done that for you automatically
#3628 [18:16] <Anelaidlives> Really? I don't have tall grass
#3629 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_8xa1nh - If it says you're not premium, then your account hasn't been marked as paid for
#3630 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Anelaidlives - yes.
#3631 [18:16] <Anelaidlives> Is there any way to manually add tall grass?
#3632 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Anelaidlives - When a world is created, the chunks generated use the current map generation rules. When minecraft is updated, only new chunks that haven't been generated before, will generate with the new features, like tall grass
#3633 [18:17] <Re-dead> Woah
#3634 [18:17] <mib_yybnlt> GreyVulpine - what do i do now?
#3635 [18:17] <Re-dead> Ops
#3636 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Anelaidlives - Only by either deleting the chunks manually, will you see the new features
#3637 [18:17] <Anelaidlives> Oh, I heard there was a way to generate new chunks in the existiing world, even if you explored the area
#3638 [18:17] <Re-dead> I left just now
#3639 [18:17] <Re-dead> =P
#3640 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Anelaidlives - Nope.
#3641 [18:18] <Re-dead> Forget it
#3642 [18:18] <Re-dead> I'm going to wait for the official release.
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#3644 [18:20] <Anelaidlives> hmm
#3645 [18:20] <Anelaidlives> Could I port over my house from one map to another?
#3646 [18:20] <Re-dead> nO
#3647 [18:20] <Anelaidlives> I remember reading you could to SMP-SSP
#3648 [18:20] <Re-dead> You cant.
#3649 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes, with MCedit. It has a schematic capability
#3650 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Also yes
#3651 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> You can just move/copy the save over from SSP to SMP
#3652 [18:20] <Anelaidlives> okay
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#3654 [18:21] <Anelaidlives> so for MCedit, how would I transfer my house?
#3655 [18:21] <TheWizzKidIR> Hello Can anybody help me?
#3656 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Basically, Click and drag a selection box over the part you want to make a copy of "Export to schematic", that'll leave you with a save prompt to save the part of the terrain as a file
#3657 [18:22] <mib_yybnlt> i downloaded the driver, now what?
#3658 [18:22] <TheWizzKidIR> I just started up Minecraft for the first time and I cant collect any items at all except flowers and kill animals
#3659 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Open your new world, there's a button along the bottom for "import", just import the schematic then
#3660 [18:22] <TheWizzKidIR> What could be wrong?
#3661 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> TheWizzKidIR - Many items, you need tools to gather, try holding down left click as you bash a tree
#3662 [18:22] <Anelaidlives> Can you collect dirt?
#3663 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3664 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Also, by holding down the left mouse button
#3665 [18:22] <TheWizzKidIR> I cant
#3666 [18:23] <TheWizzKidIR> And I press left at a tree
#3667 [18:23] <TheWizzKidIR> wont work
#3668 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> You need to hold down the left mouse button
#3669 [18:23] <TheWizzKidIR> Il give it a try
#3670 [18:23] <mib_yybnlt> greyvulpine- what now?
#3671 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> mib_yybnlt - DId you install the drivers?
#3672 [18:23] <mib_yybnlt> yup
#3673 [18:23] <TheWizzKidIR> GreyVylpine you rule Thanks so much!
#3674 [18:24] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#3675 [18:24] <mib_yybnlt> GreyVulpine - yes
#3676 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> mib_yybnlt - Did it ask you to restart your computer?
#3677 [18:24] <mib_8xa1nh> I redid it all and now it says purchase complete what should I hit next?
#3678 [18:25] <mib_yybnlt> GreyVulpine - yes, do i restart?
#3679 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> mib_8xa1nh - Try minecraft again
#3680 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> mib_yybnlt - yes please. Afterwards, try minecraft
#3681 [18:25] <mib_yybnlt> alright ill be back
#3682 [18:26] <Re-dead> This is stupid.
#3683 [18:26] <Re-dead> I cant eveb play a game I bought.
#3684 [18:26] <__import__> Re-dead, what was your issue?
#3685 [18:27] <__import__> Client crashes silently, correct?
#3686 [18:27] <Re-dead> After logging in it instantly closes itself.
#3687 [18:27] <__import__> Did you catch my response re: console?
#3688 [18:27] <Re-dead> Then an error txt on my desktop.
#3689 [18:27] <Re-dead> Hmmm
#3690 [18:27] <Re-dead> How do you launch it by console?
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#3692 [18:27] <Metalmine> hi
#3693 [18:27] <__import__> open cmd
#3694 [18:27] <Metalmine> excuse me
#3695 [18:27] <Re-dead> Then?
#3696 [18:27] <Metalmine> is anyone there
#3697 [18:27] <__import__> drag your launcher icon into the resulting window
#3698 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> hold on __import__, he's got an error text
#3699 [18:27] <__import__> press enter.
#3700 [18:28] <Re-dead> Okay
#3701 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Metalmine - Nope, nobody's here
#3702 [18:28] <Metalmine> >.>
#3703 [18:28] <Metalmine> :P
#3704 [18:28] <__import__> oops, yea, txt should show the same as what you get on the screen.
#3705 [18:28] <Metalmine> tell me when you're done thanks
#3706 [18:28] <__import__> Re-dead, have you provided the channel with that txt?
#3707 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Re-dead - Please go into the error text, copy the entire thing to pastebin.com, press the submit button, and give us the URL to it
#3708 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Metalmine - Just ask
#3709 [18:28] <Metalmine> ok
#3710 [18:28] <Re-dead> Okay
#3711 [18:28] <Metalmine> i open minecraft, even as admin it will start the process and tehn jsut crash
#3712 [18:29] <Re-dead> I know how it feels.
#3713 [18:29] <The_Gambit> I am really Debating on not getting minecraft since its it just a pain just to pay for it.
#3714 [18:29] <Metalmine> lol
#3715 [18:29] <Metalmine> really?
#3716 [18:29] <Metalmine> o-o
#3717 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Metalmine - Do you get any files named hs_err_pid?
#3718 [18:29] <Metalmine> i found it pretty simple
#3719 [18:29] <__import__> The_Gambit, how so?
#3720 [18:29] <Metalmine> um
#3721 [18:29] <Metalmine> what
#3722 [18:29] <Metalmine> o-o
#3723 [18:29] <__import__> I actually got it within seconds of paying for it.
#3724 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> When minecraft closes, does it generate any files named "hs_err_pid"?
#3725 [18:29] <Metalmine> yea
#3726 [18:29] <Metalmine> um
#3727 [18:29] <Metalmine> wehre
#3728 [18:30] <__import__> Metalmine, same directory as the launcher.
#3729 [18:30] <Metalmine> no
#3730 [18:30] <Metalmine> it doesn't
#3731 [18:30] <__import__> iirc
#3732 [18:30] <Metalmine> it just crashes
#3733 [18:30] <The_Gambit> I pay for it says complete and then doesnt give me premium does send me a email doesnt let me get skins or nothing
#3734 [18:30] <Re-dead> Done
#3735 [18:30] <Re-dead> http://pastebin.com/GrGcdVuZ
#3736 [18:30] <Metalmine> the gambit
#3737 [18:30] <Metalmine> just log in after
#3738 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Re-dead - It's your ATI video drivers, do you know how to update them?
#3739 [18:30] <Re-dead> Dammit.
#3740 [18:30] <Re-dead> Does the game use OpenGL?
#3741 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3742 [18:31] <Metalmine> so what about me
#3743 [18:31] <Re-dead> Because I have 6 games which use it and I cant play them.
#3744 [18:31] <Re-dead> So.
#3745 [18:31] <Re-dead> Im going to get a mac one day
#3746 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Re-dead - By any chance.. do you have a toshiba C660 laptop?
#3747 [18:31] <Re-dead> Do you think it'll work wonders?
#3748 [18:31] <Re-dead> Nope
#3749 [18:31] <Re-dead> =P
#3750 [18:31] <__import__> The_Gambit, what are you using to pay?
#3751 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Re-dead - Well, drats, have you tried updating your video drivers?
#3752 [18:31] <Metalmine> me?
#3753 [18:31] <The_Gambit> Plain old creditcard
#3754 [18:32] <Re-dead> Yeah
#3755 [18:32] <Metalmine> let me go try taht
#3756 [18:32] <Metalmine> brb
#3757 [18:32] <Metalmine> wai
#3758 [18:32] <__import__> The_Gambit, are the charges reflected on your statement?
#3759 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Metalmine - Try this: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#3760 [18:32] <Metalmine> kk
#3761 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Metalmine - Tell us if you see any errors using that
#3762 [18:32] <__import__> Be aware payments sometimes take a few hours to be collected.
#3763 [18:32] <__import__> or rather, processed and accepted
#3764 [18:32] <__import__> The_Gambit, when did you make the purchase?
#3765 [18:32] <__import__> and under what username?
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#3767 [18:33] <The_Gambit> Havent gotten a email havent gotten a transaction on my credit card.
#3768 [18:33] <Re-dead> Ahem?
#3769 [18:33] <Re-dead> =/
#3770 [18:33] <The_Gambit> yesterday night
#3771 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Re-dead?
#3772 [18:33] <Re-dead> *Sigh*
#3773 [18:33] <Re-dead> I want to play Minecraft!
#3774 [18:33] <Re-dead> FUUUU...
#3775 [18:33] <__import__> Re-dead, update your video drivers.
#3776 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Re-dead - How exactly did you try updating your video drivers?
#3777 [18:33] <Re-dead> I did
#3778 [18:33] <Re-dead> It doesnt work.
#3779 [18:33] <Re-dead> I uninstall the old drivers and install new ones.
#3780 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> New ones, from where?
#3781 [18:34] <Re-dead> From the ATI website?
#3782 [18:34] <Re-dead> I'm starting to get nervous.
#3783 [18:34] <__import__> The_Gambit, it wouldn't happen to be a prepaid card, would it?
#3784 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Re-dead - And you're sure you're using the latest catalyst drivers from there?
#3785 [18:34] <Metalmine> no it's not working
#3786 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Metalmine - What does the command prompt give you?
#3787 [18:35] <Re-dead> Well.. The Catalyst program thingy doesnt really work on my computer
#3788 [18:35] <Re-dead> Nor modded versions of it.
#3789 [18:35] <Re-dead> So I..
#3790 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Re-dead - It.. doesn't?
#3791 [18:35] <Re-dead> dont think it's actually doing what it should be doing.
#3792 [18:35] <__import__> Re-dead, what computer do you have? Laptop?
#3793 [18:35] <The_Gambit> A credit card (not prepaid)
#3794 [18:35] <Re-dead> Laptop.
#3795 [18:35] <The_Gambit> From wellsfargo!
#3796 [18:35] <__import__> Re-dead, bingo
#3797 [18:35] <Re-dead> ...
#3798 [18:35] <Re-dead> So is there a fix?
#3799 [18:35] <Re-dead> =D
#3800 [18:36] <Re-dead> Please say Yes.
#3801 [18:36] <Metalmine> um
#3802 [18:36] <Metalmine> er
#3803 [18:36] <__import__> The_Gambit, try tying your card to a paypal account, and use that.
#3804 [18:36] <Metalmine> let me try to copy it
#3805 [18:36] <__import__> That is what I did, and it worked smoothly
#3806 [18:36] <__import__> Other than that, you might need to contact your credit provider/mojang
#3807 [18:36] <Re-dead> Cmon!
#3808 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Metalmine - Right click on it, choose "Mark" click and drag a box around it, right click again. Paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the address to it
#3809 [18:36] <Re-dead> Is there a fix?!
#3810 [18:37] <__import__> Re-dead, I said bingo as your laptop possibly doesn't even support OpenGL
#3811 [18:37] <__import__> One I have here doesnt
#3812 [18:37] <Re-dead> It doesnt.
#3813 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Derp, huh?
#3814 [18:37] <__import__> Re-dead, theres your issue.
#3815 [18:37] <Re-dead> Fuck..
#3816 [18:37] <Re-dead> My
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#3818 [18:37] <Re-dead> Life.
#3819 [18:37] <__import__> Ok, bbl
#3820 [18:37] <Re-dead> bbl?
#3821 [18:37] <Re-dead> =P
#3822 [18:37] <__import__> be back later.
#3823 [18:37] <Re-dead> I forgot the definition.
#3824 [18:37] <Re-dead> Okay
#3825 [18:37] <Re-dead> Bye
#3826 [18:37] <The_Gambit> Can't connect my credit card to a paypal Because of a family member charging stuff on the paypal account and something happened
#3827 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Don't need to connect your credit card to a paypal account. Don't even need to make a paypal account.
#3828 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Just pay using paypal.
#3829 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> You can then choose to pay using a credit card, without linking it
#3830 [18:38] <Metalmine> http://pastebin.com/nufBJevK
#3831 [18:38] <Metalmine> there it is
#3832 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Ah.. I remember this problem..
#3833 [18:39] <Metalmine> you do?
#3834 [18:39] <Metalmine> :DDD
#3835 [18:39] <Metalmine> what do you do?
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#3837 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to disable cleartype in your windows machine?
#3838 [18:40] <creeper> i need help with my minecraft,
#3839 [18:40] <creeper> it keeps running slowly
#3840 [18:40] <creeper> any suggestions
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#3842 [18:40] <Metalmine> um
#3843 [18:40] <Metalmine> cleartype?
#3844 [18:40] <Metalmine> whats that
#3845 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Metalmine - Right-click on the desktop, and click Personalize, Click Window Color and Appearance, Click Open classic appearance properties for more color options, Click the Effects tab, Under Use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts, select Standard
#3846 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Then ok to close the dialog
#3847 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> creeper - Tried lowering the graphics options in minecraft?
#3848 [18:41] <Metalmine> im using widows 7 btw
#3849 [18:41] <creeper> i have them on fancy lower them?
#3850 [18:42] <The_Gambit> GreyVulpine, This Came up:We were unable to verify this credit card. Please check if the information you entered is correct. If the problem persists, please try to enter a different credit card.
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#3852 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> creeper - Yes
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#3854 [18:42] <creeper> k
#3855 [18:42] <Opeth> creeper - Set render distance to normal and Graphics on Fast.
#3856 [18:42] <Metalmine> theres no color and appearance
#3857 [18:42] <Metalmine> and theres no effects tab
#3858 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Metalmine- One moment
#3859 [18:43] <Metalmine> ok
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#3861 [18:45] <Metalmine> um
#3862 [18:45] <Metalmine> k...
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#3864 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Metalmine - Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cleartype
#3865 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> If the checkbox is on, toggle if off.
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#3868 [18:45] <Metalmine> kk
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#3871 [18:46] <Metalmine> what now
#3872 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Run minecraft
#3873 [18:47] <Metalmine> ok
#3874 [18:47] <Metalmine> OMG IT WORKS
#3875 [18:47] <Metalmine> thank you so much
#3876 [18:47] <Metalmine> how did you know that was the error?
#3877 [18:47] <iMike23> Okay, my names Mike and I need some help with my Minecraft sound.
#3878 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> I've diagnosed it before, somebody else has had it
#3879 [18:48] <Opeth> iMike23 - Simple question first. Is your sound out-of-game and in-game turned up?
#3880 [18:48] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Cleartype? Of all things?!?
#3881 [18:48] <Metalmine> oh i see
#3882 [18:48] <Metalmine> you sir are cool
#3883 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> lukegb - Yup
#3884 [18:48] <Metalmine> ikr @luke
#3885 [18:48] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :GreyVulpine: Minecraft truly is picky :P
#3886 [18:48] <Metalmine> lol
#3887 [18:48] <iMike23> @Opeth Yes.
#3888 [18:48] <Metalmine> well ttyl
#3889 [18:48] <Metalmine> thanks a lot
#3890 [18:49] <Anelaidlives> I apologize, but I had to go again and I missed how to use mcedit to import houses from one world to the next
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#3892 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> lukegb - I have no idea, but it's happened only once before, and I had to teamviewer into a person's windows box, that was all french
#3893 [18:49] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :o.o
#3894 [18:49] <__import__> hah
#3895 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Was a real pain to diagnose
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#3897 [18:49] <Opeth> iMike23 - What OS are you running?
#3898 [18:49] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :__import__: import sys; sys.modules.clear() # gtfo builtins (:
#3899 [18:49] <iMike23> Windows.
#3900 [18:50] <__import__> lukegb, =D
#3901 [18:50] <__import__> Epic nick, eh?
#3902 [18:50] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :No? :P
#3903 [18:50] <__import__> heh
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#3905 [18:50] <__getattr__> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :__import__: now I too can be as cool as you.
#3906 [18:51] <Opeth> iMike23 - Follow these instructions: http://windows7themes.net/minecraft-no-sound-fix-for-windows-7-vista-xp-mac.html
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#3908 [18:51] <Metalmine> well
#3909 [18:51] <Metalmine> um
#3910 [18:51] <Metalmine> im back
#3911 [18:51] <Opeth> Actually, wrong link
#3912 [18:51] <Metalmine> and er
#3913 [18:51] <Metalmine> the server has an errror too now
#3914 [18:51] <Metalmine> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.7.2 [INFO] Loading properties [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 5.78.236.226:25565 [WARNING] **** FAILED TO BIND TO PORT! [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Cannot assign requested address: JVM_Bind [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#3915 [18:51] <Metalmine> any idea?
#3916 [18:51] <__import__> Metalmine, killall java
#3917 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Remove the IP from server-ip=
#3918 [18:51] <Opeth> iMike23
#3919 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> in your server.properties
#3920 [18:51] <Opeth> ??> iMike23 win/reinst
#3921 [18:51] <Metalmine> ok
#3922 [18:51] <VoxelHead> iMike23: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3923 [18:52] <iMike23> Yes?
#3924 [18:52] <VoxelHead> iMike23: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3925 [18:52] <Opeth> Your resource folder is just empty.
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#3927 [18:53] <iMike23> No, my resource folder has things in it
#3928 [18:53] <Opeth> Ah
#3929 [18:53] <The_Gambit> We were unable to verify this credit card. Please check if the information you entered is correct. If the problem persists, please try to enter a different credit card.
#3930 [18:53] <The_Gambit> any ideas (this is sayn on paypal)
#3931 [18:53] <__import__> The_Gambit, D=
#3932 [18:53] <iMike23> It has the folders Music, Newmusic, newsound, sound, and streaming.
#3933 [18:54] <Metalmine> thanks
#3934 [18:54] <Metalmine> it works now
#3935 [18:54] <Metalmine> LOL
#3936 [18:54] <__import__> Borrow someone elses card?
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#3938 [18:54] <The_Gambit> Sorta rude Asking To use someone elses Credit card.
#3939 [18:54] <huddler> my screen i stuck and done loading any ideas of how to fix?
#3940 [18:54] <iMike23> I asked a few people on the support forum on minecraftforum.net in my own thread. It should outline my problem. Can I link the thread?
#3941 [18:55] <Opeth> Sure
#3942 [18:55] <iMike23> Ok, thanks,
#3943 [18:55] <__import__> ??> huddler win/reinst
#3944 [18:55] <VoxelHead> huddler: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3945 [18:55] <VoxelHead> huddler: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3947 [18:55] <huddler> i tried that it didnt work
#3948 [18:55] <iMike23> Here you go; I hope you can help!
#3949 [18:55] <iMike23> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/371389-weird-sound-problem/
#3950 [18:56] <Opeth> Can you go to .minecraft\bin\natives and tell me if you have OpenAL32.dll and OpenAL64.dll.
#3951 [18:56] <iMike23> I deleted those, as someone on the thread told me that sometimes they don't work.
#3952 [18:56] <iMike23> But I can get them back if I reinstall Minecraft
#3953 [18:57] <Opeth> Reinstall.
#3954 [18:57] <iMike23> Ok.
#3955 [18:58] <huddler> i tried reinstalling as we
#3956 [18:58] <huddler> *well
#3957 [18:58] <Anelaidlives> Alright
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#3959 [18:58] <Anelaidlives> Is selected the area in MCedit that I want to save
#3960 [18:58] <Anelaidlives> I*
#3961 [18:58] <Opeth> iMike23 are you running 32bit or 64bit?
#3962 [18:58] <iMike23> @Opeth It's done.
#3963 [18:58] <huddler> 64
#3964 [18:58] <Opeth> Not you huddler.
#3965 [18:59] <huddler> o my bad
#3966 [18:59] <Opeth> iMike23 are you running 32 or 64?
#3967 [18:59] <iMike23> @Opeth I have no idea, lol. Where would I find this out?
#3968 [18:59] <huddler> its odd i can get it to run on my desktop but not my laptop
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#3972 [19:00] <gorim> hiya all im looking for help i keep trying to open minecraft but it crashes and gives me an error on desktop
#3973 [19:00] <Opeth> iMike23 - Go to Control Panel > System
#3974 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> gorim - Please copy the error report, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
#3975 [19:01] <Opeth> It should say System type: xx-bit Operating System
#3976 [19:01] <iMike23> Ok
#3977 [19:02] <gorim> http://pastebin.com/EJPXXRFL
#3978 [19:02] <iMike23> I'm running 32 bit apparently.
#3979 [19:02] <Opeth> Alright
#3980 [19:02] <Anelaidlives> kk
#3981 [19:02] <Anelaidlives> thanks for the help
#3982 [19:02] <Opeth> iMike23 - Download this and run it: http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/oalinst.zip
#3983 [19:02] <Anelaidlives> I'm going to export it to a new map and see how that works
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#3985 [19:03] <Opeth> After that is installed, run Minecraft again and make sure sound is turned up.
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#3988 [19:05] <Metalmine> hey grey
#3989 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#3990 [19:05] <gorim> ?
#3991 [19:05] <Metalmine> how do you restart a server map?
#3992 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Delete the world folder
#3993 [19:05] <Metalmine> casue i landed in the middle of the desert ok
#3994 [19:05] <Metalmine> ok
#3995 [19:05] <Metalmine> thanks
#3996 [19:05] <iMike23> @Opeth When I try to edit my sound in-game it closes out my Minecraft
#3997 [19:06] <gorim> http://pastebin.com/EJPXXRFL that is the error im having
#3998 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Opeth - When you install OpenAL using the installer, you'll need to copy the OpenAL file to /.minecraft/bin/natives
#3999 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> minecraft has its own local copy
#4000 [19:06] <iMike23> Ok! I'll try
#4001 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> gorim - Update your ATI video drivers from AMD's site
#4002 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> ??> gorim gpu/amd
#4003 [19:07] <Opeth> Ah yes
#4004 [19:07] <VoxelHead> gorim: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#4005 [19:08] <Opeth> Alright.
#4006 [19:08] <gorim> is that all i need?
#4007 [19:08] <iMike23> Now, how would I go about doing the copying of the file.
#4008 [19:08] <iMike23> All I have is the installer.
#4009 [19:08] <Opeth> After OpenAL is installed. Go to C:\Windows\system32 and rename OpenAL32.dll to OpenAL32.dll.bak
#4010 [19:09] <__import__> Anyone here have a direct link to Optimine for 1.7.2?
#4011 [19:09] <__import__> OptiFog + Optimine 1.7.2_HD_C to be precise.
#4012 [19:09] <iMike23> Ok.
#4013 [19:09] <Opeth> Then go back to .minecraft\bin\natives and copy OpenAL32.dll to to C:\Windows\system32
#4014 [19:10] <Opeth> Then go back to \natives and rename OpenAL64.dll to OpenAL64.dll.bak
#4015 [19:11] <Opeth> Oh for the love of God..
#4016 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. what?
#4017 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Just copy the openal file from system32 to /natives..
#4018 [19:12] <Opeth> Yeah
#4019 [19:12] <Opeth> Its late and I'm misreading.
#4020 [19:13] <iMike23> Wait what?
#4021 [19:13] <iMike23> What do I do exactly>
#4022 [19:14] <Opeth> I'm hoping Grey will help, I seem to have messed up in reading somewhere.
#4023 [19:14] <iMike23> Okay, thanks for your help anyway Opeth.
#4024 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> iMike23 - Install OpenAL with the installer
#4025 [19:15] <iMike23> Ok, done.
#4026 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> iMike23 - Then the install finishes, go to C:\Windows\System32\
#4027 [19:15] <iMike23> Ok I'm there.
#4028 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> There, you'll find OpenAL32.dll, copy it.
#4029 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Go to your %appdata%/.minecraft/natives folder, replace the OpenAl32.dll file there
#4030 [19:16] <iMike23> Ok
#4031 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Now try minecraft
#4032 [19:21] <iMike23> Oh my god. It worked! After a month of Minecraft with no sound.
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#4034 [19:21] <Awesomeness> GreyVulpine works miracles. ;)
#4035 [19:21] <iMike23> Thanks Grey and Opeth. Next time I need help, I'm coming here, with friends. Thanks again.
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#4038 [19:22] <gorim> ok so i updated drivers and same thing
#4039 [19:22] <gorim> alls it tells me to download is a program called catalist
#4040 [19:22] <gorim> no updates just catalist so idk
#4041 [19:22] <Opeth> Oh that was embarrassing for me.
#4042 [19:23] <Opeth> gorim - Download Catalyst.
#4043 [19:23] <gorim> i did
#4044 [19:23] <gorim> but what now?
#4045 [19:25] <gorim> opeth what do i do now sir?
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#4048 [19:26] <Opeth> It was Grey that was assisting your problem. I'm not certain on how to help with that sorry.
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#4050 [19:26] <secretkasey> I'm having trouble getting minecraft to run in firefox. Can anyone help??
#4051 [19:27] <gorim> hmm i dont knwo what to do
#4052 [19:27] <Opeth> Ah crap, shutdown.
#4053 [19:27] <Opeth> I'll try to get back on.
#4054 [19:28] <creeper> @Opeth I went and lowered my render distance and set my graphics to fast and it worked for 10 minutes then it started freezing up again and lagging again
#4055 [19:28] <mib_xzy11f> When i log into minecraft on my desktop or get on the browser the game screen goes black and i dont think its the video card because all my other games work can anyone help?
#4056 [19:29] <secretkasey> the website loads but nothing happens other than the website background showing. The game itself does not load
#4057 [19:29] <mib_xzy11f> its just all black
#4058 [19:29] <mib_xzy11f> like the game wont do anything what do i do ?
#4059 [19:30] * mib_oehv8z [mib_oehv8z@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4060 [19:30] <lemon-rev> mib_xzy11f control pannel add remove java reinstall it via java.com
#4061 [19:31] <mib_xzy11f> thank you much i will try that right now!
#4062 [19:31] <creeper> @lemon-rev can you help me with the lagging and freezing issue?
#4063 [19:32] <lemon-rev> hm
#4064 [19:32] <lemon-rev> depends windows/ mac
#4065 [19:32] <secretkasey> windows
#4066 [19:32] <lemon-rev> ?. oh, two of you
#4067 [19:32] <lemon-rev> lol
#4068 [19:32] <lemon-rev> ok then
#4069 [19:33] <lemon-rev> ??> creeper win/dxdiag
#4070 [19:33] <VoxelHead> creeper: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4071 [19:33] <creeper> windows
#4072 [19:33] <VoxelHead> creeper: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#4073 [19:33] * Kealper is now the proud owner of a 144MHz 5/8th wave stacked j-pole
#4073 [19:34] <lemon-rev> kealper wtf is a j-pole ?
#4074 [19:34] <Kealper> it's a type of antenna
#4075 [19:34] <lemon-rev> for what cb ?
#4076 [19:35] <Kealper> cb is for nubs, this is for ham radio lol
#4077 [19:35] <Kealper> real radio D:
#4078 [19:35] <lemon-rev> ohh, well you got licence for that ?
#4079 [19:35] <lemon-rev> yea i know
#4080 [19:35] <Kealper> yeah, ham frequencies need a license
#4081 [19:36] <lemon-rev> well its got a lot of those so yea :)
#4082 [19:36] <Kealper> the antenna i just made is good for 144-148MHz and 440-470MHz
#4083 [19:37] <lemon-rev> hm, ok ouch, well good luck to find things on those feqentcys
#4084 [19:38] <mib_xzy11f> lemon-rev thank you for your help it was the java but was installed just fine i had the 32 bit i need the 64 bit i feel like a noob:(
#4085 [19:38] <lemon-rev> mib_xzy11f its ok, enjoy your game
#4086 [19:39] <Kealper> those walkie-talkies you can buy with the 22 preset channels on them (the ones you find for family events) use 462MHz so i can screw with people running those, and a local repeater i talk on for the Red Cross uses 146MHz, so this antenna is perfect for me
#4087 [19:40] <lemon-rev> hahahhaha, mr messing with the othorities person, oh well, enjoy your happy hunting for those who have got that, and all the little annoyances people can also be :)
#4088 [19:40] <Kealper> lol
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#4090 [19:41] <Kealper> only issue with my antenna right now is that i've got to get some coax cable so i can string that into my house and actually use the antenna
#4091 [19:41] <Ketsueki> How long does dxdiag take anyway? creeper's been silent
#4092 [19:41] <Kealper> a few seconds
#4093 [19:41] <lemon-rev> ketsueki i dont kow it depends if he managed to follow it or not
#4094 [19:42] <Ketsueki> Status 408
#4095 [19:42] <lemon-rev> kealper thats got to be the cheepest bit from the antenna to the ham radio so oh well, just have to go out and get some that coax
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#4097 [19:42] <Ketsueki> 408 Request Timeout
#4098 [19:43] <Ketsueki> The server timed out waiting for the request.[2] According to W3 HTTP specifications: "The client did not produce a request within the time that the server was prepared to wait. The client MAY repeat the request without modifications at any later time."
#4099 [19:43] <genshou> Heh... ham radio
#4100 [19:43] <genshou> my father is way into that stuff, but he lives in a subdivision where antennae are prohibited
#4101 [19:43] <Kealper> psh, the antenna itself was free, i just stripped about 14 feet of copper ground wire out of a thing of romex house wiring and used that for the antenna lol
#4102 [19:44] <genshou> He has to hide his antenna in the attic, got it hooked up to solar power
#4103 [19:44] <Kealper> genshou: yeah, my friend lives in a place like that, if it stands more than like 6 feet off the ground, they make you take it down
#4104 [19:44] <genshou> Yeah.
#4105 [19:44] <genshou> Well in his case if it's on the roof it's banned.
#4106 [19:44] <Kealper> genshou: so he's off to the hardware store right now to build a delta-loop antenna that goes around his house lol
#4107 [19:44] <genshou> He should ;)
#4108 [19:45] <Kealper> man, my brother just recently set up a mean delta-loop antenna, and using like 50 watts he recently made contacts with people in like Moscow....pretty intense
#4109 [19:45] <The_Gambit> !paid The_Gambit
#4110 [19:46] <The_Gambit> :)
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#4113 [19:46] <Kealper> wahey, grats
#4114 [19:46] <Kealper> only took like 4 hours ._.
#4115 [19:46] <The_Gambit> lol
#4116 [19:46] <lemon-rev> kealper if the conditions are right i got on 27 mhz way over to london so it depends on conditions
#4117 [19:46] <The_Gambit> OMG
#4118 [19:46] <genshou> Now you can customize your skin :]
#4119 [19:47] <Kealper> lemon-rev: yeah, i think he was using 20m and all the old fogeys around town are saying 10m and 20m have been amazing to Europe lately
#4120 [19:47] <LC98> could anyone help me? I keep receiving a message when I attempt to connect to SMP.
#4121 [19:48] <LC98> Everyone I've asked said that they've never seen that.
#4122 [19:48] <Kealper> LC98: "recieved a message"
#4123 [19:48] <Kealper> care to elaborate?
#4124 [19:48] <lemon-rev> kealper i wont be surpised its verry weird atm but i havent used my old rig in a verry long time , so i havent been upto date with sunspot activity
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#4126 [19:49] <Kealper> lemon-rev: are you a ham? lol
#4127 [19:49] <lemon-rev> no, like you said i was a littlie 27mhz
#4128 [19:49] <Awesomeness> haaaaam!
#4129 [19:49] <lemon-rev> Awesomeness not food :P
#4130 [19:49] <Kealper> oh, 26-27MHz is like..... CB lol
#4131 [19:49] <lemon-rev> yes like CB
#4132 [19:50] <creeper> wheres the link I am supposed to be getting at pastebin.com
#4133 [19:50] <lemon-rev> and not on AM freq either
#4134 [19:50] <lemon-rev> creeper pastebin.com
#4135 [19:50] <lemon-rev> creeper do a sumbit down the bottem of the page
#4136 [19:50] <creeper> and I get a whole bunch of stuff
#4137 [19:50] <creeper> then what do I do with it
#4138 [19:51] <lemon-rev> should give you a url
#4139 [19:51] <creeper> where on the page would the url be
#4140 [19:51] <lemon-rev> url = http link
#4141 [19:51] <creeper> but it didn't give me one
#4142 [19:52] <creeper> or do you mean the one that
#4143 [19:52] <lemon-rev> creeper then sumbit it and you should get one
#4144 [19:52] <LC98> it says: Connection Lost Failed to login: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"
#4145 [19:52] <The_Gambit> You guys want to know what the problem was?
#4146 [19:52] <Kealper> LC98: are you on a mac?
#4147 [19:52] <creeper> is in the upper box
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#4150 [19:52] <lemon-rev> creeper something like that yes, in the top bar
#4151 [19:52] <LC98> PC, windows vista
#4152 [19:52] <creeper> and wheres the IRC channel i paste it to
#4153 [19:53] <lemon-rev> your in it
#4154 [19:53] <Kealper> LC98: oh, that's odd to see that message on Windows.... do you have any antivirus software installed?
#4155 [19:53] <Kealper> creeper: this
#4156 [19:53] <creeper> o lol
#4157 [19:53] <mib_l6oiyv> could i get a list of the software neede to run minecraft
#4158 [19:53] <LC98> yes. I thought it was either that or the Windows Firewall
#4159 [19:53] <creeper> http://pastebin.com/3UXAbKTf
#4160 [19:53] <lemon-rev> ty
#4161 [19:53] <Kealper> mib_l6oiyv: a computer running any operating system that can run Java, and Java
#4162 [19:53] <creeper> you're welcome
#4163 [19:54] <lemon-rev> creeper your getting out of memory problems correct ?
#4164 [19:54] <Kealper> LC98: so you have confirmed it is not your antivirus?
#4165 [19:54] <mib_0mmbzn> my minecraft is not wanting to save to my computer
#4166 [19:54] <mib_l6oiyv> have it still doesnt work and ive been doing stuff for two days straight
#4167 [19:54] <lemon-rev> creeper Memory: 504MB RAM < that is why
#4168 [19:54] <LC98> no, I havent.
#4169 [19:54] <creeper> what do I do about it
#4170 [19:54] <lemon-rev> either find out if its ddr ram or ddr2 ram and buy some more
#4171 [19:54] <Kealper> LC98: try disabling your antivirus software for a few minutes and trying again
#4172 [19:55] <LC98> I know it's something on my computer not allowing internet access for minecraft. ok.
#4173 [19:55] <mib_l6oiyv> i have java and the second it finishes loading after i log in it goes straight to black
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#4175 [19:55] <lemon-rev> oh creeper get a new graphics card while your at it
#4176 [19:56] <mib_0mmbzn> do you have to have the newest java downloaded to your computer to download the game
#4177 [19:56] <Norr3272> im having problems with the game... it wont let me mine stone. when i do it doesnt spawn a block of cobblestone for my inventory, i tried playing in browser and reinstalling it
#4178 [19:56] <creeper> it's a ddr ram
#4179 [19:56] <Kealper> LC98: well, it's either something is proxying Minecraft's connection to the internet (possibly some firewall thing inside an antivirus suite) or something is screwy with Java
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#4182 [19:57] <lemon-rev> creeper then go on line and buy 2 gigs of it
#4183 [19:58] <LC98> I've downloaded the latest version of java. I did have modloader and Toomanyitems on it, but that was before 1.7.
#4184 [19:58] <lemon-rev> lc98 please update your java then,
#4185 [19:59] <Kealper> LC98: have you tried in the browser?
#4186 [19:59] <Kealper> lemon-rev: he said he's got the latest Java
#4187 [19:59] <lemon-rev> kealper that was before 1.7 its nwo updated past what it was at 1.6
#4188 [19:59] <mib_l6oiyv> even when i play the free version on the website it goes white after a few minutes since the update
#4189 [19:59] <Kealper> uhh....wut
#4190 [19:59] <creeper> ok thank you very much
#4191 [20:00] <LC98> Yes, and I can play smp on another computer.
#4192 [20:00] <lemon-rev> kealper java was a lower version when 1.6 came out, after about 1.7.1 came out java basicly did another update
#4193 [20:00] <lemon-rev> thats all im trying to say
#4194 [20:01] * Kealper wasn't even aware Java updated again
#4194 [20:01] <lemon-rev> np
#4195 [20:01] <LC98> ok, ill download java again.
#4196 [20:01] * Kealper doesn't care about Java updates, as long as it's in the ballpark it's fine
#4196 [20:01] <lemon-rev> hahahaha, same
#4197 [20:01] <lemon-rev> :)
#4198 [20:01] <Kealper> i was running 1.6.0_17 for the longest time lol
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#4200 [20:02] <Deedeeee> hello?
#4201 [20:02] <Kealper> hi
#4202 [20:02] <Deedeeee> I'm lost :/
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#4204 [20:03] <mib_l6oiyv> can someone help me so i dont feel like i just wasted 15 euro on this thing all because my computer is shit
#4205 [20:03] <netwired> anyone else having issues logging in with the launcher??
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#4207 [20:03] <Kealper> netwired: define issues?
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#4209 [20:03] <Deedeeee> i want to play with my friend but I can't create a server its too hard!
#4210 [20:04] <lemon-rev> mib_l6oiyv < mib stop being a baby and reinstall java but remove it from your computer first
#4211 [20:04] <Kealper> Deedeeee: what part are you getting stuck on?
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#4213 [20:04] <Deedeeee> Well I just want to do multiplayer, I don't know how to join or make my own server, theres so much tutorials saying I should use "Hamachi"
#4214 [20:05] <netwired> I just get "Can't connect to minecraft.net" I can ping it, and login at the site
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#4216 [20:05] <Kealper> Deedeeee: the H-word is fightin' words 'round these parts D:
#4217 [20:05] <Kealper> Deedeeee: do you have access to your router?
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#4219 [20:05] <netwired> yes
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#4221 [20:06] <Kealper> netwired: has it worked before, and do you have any antivirus or firewall software installed?
#4222 [20:06] <Deedeeee> not right now I was gonna get this sorted out tomorrow but I just want some advice now
#4223 [20:06] <netwired> it worked last night.. when i got home from work today its not
#4224 [20:06] <LC98> nothing.
#4225 [20:06] <Kealper> also to everyone, i'll have your name in front of my message if it's directed at you
#4226 [20:06] <Kealper> LC98: tried in the browser?
#4227 [20:06] <mib_l6oiyv> reinstalled java 3 times in the last teo days
#4228 [20:06] <lemon-rev> lc98 have you tryed reinstalling minecraft ?
#4229 [20:06] <LC98> same thing.
#4230 [20:06] <mib_l6oiyv> two days
#4231 [20:07] <LC98> multiple times.
#4232 [20:07] <lemon-rev> mib_l6oiyv ? whats up
#4233 [20:07] <Kealper> netwired: does it work in the browser?
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#4235 [20:07] <mib_b78sci> Hey, whenever I play Minecraft, after about 2 mins it closes it and drops a notepad document on my desktop saying: A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x4ff9a9b3, pid=248, tid=3328
#4236 [20:07] <netwired> trying now.. one min
#4237 [20:07] <LC98> So you said this happens on Macs? how can you fix that?
#4238 [20:07] <lemon-rev> lc98 what about in broswer like kealper was trying to say before
#4239 [20:07] <mib_l6oiyv> it goes straight to black when i sign in
#4240 [20:07] <Kealper> mib_b78sci: Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
#4241 [20:08] <LC98> Ive tried that too.
#4242 [20:08] <Kealper> mib_l6oiyv: has it worked before?
#4243 [20:08] <mib_l6oiyv> no
#4244 [20:08] <mib_l6oiyv> pe
#4245 [20:08] <lemon-rev> mib_l6oiyv did you do as i said before and reinstall java ?
#4246 [20:08] <Kealper> Deedeeee: i was going to say you could use my program i made that helps set up the server for you, but you would still need to forward port 25565 to your computer inside your router
#4247 [20:08] <mib_l6oiyv> yup done it a few times already
#4248 [20:09] <Kealper> mib_l6oiyv: have you already posted a dxdiag?
#4249 [20:09] <lemon-rev> ??> mib_l6oiyv win/reinst
#4250 [20:09] <VoxelHead> mib_l6oiyv: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4251 [20:09] <VoxelHead> mib_l6oiyv: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#4253 [20:09] <mib_l6oiyv> oh ive done that ten times already still no worky
#4254 [20:09] <netwired> I got the loading screen, now just a black screen 'inbrowser'
#4255 [20:09] <Deedeeee> Well I've seen a few videos talking about that, theres this "forward porting" website that tells me how to do it depending on my router, it has like a walkthrough
#4256 [20:10] <mib_l6oiyv> ive been here already today too
#4257 [20:10] <lemon-rev> mib_l6oiyv < please try log in to minecraft.net and click broswer on the homepage please
#4258 [20:10] <Kealper> ??> mib_l6oiyv win/dxdiag
#4259 [20:10] <VoxelHead> mib_l6oiyv: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4260 [20:10] <VoxelHead> mib_l6oiyv: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#4261 [20:10] * Kealper wonders if his computer can even play Minecraft
#4261 [20:11] <lemon-rev> same
#4262 [20:11] <The_Gambit> how do i put this skin i found as myskin for my char
#4263 [20:11] <mib_b78sci> http://pastebin.com/EQ1qjgpQ
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#4265 [20:11] <LC98> Kealper you still there?
#4266 [20:11] <Kealper> LC98: most of the tmioe
#4267 [20:11] <Kealper> time*
#4268 [20:12] <mib_b78sci> Kealper, i put the link in
#4269 [20:12] <Kealper> ??> mib_b78sci gpu/nvidia
#4270 [20:12] <VoxelHead> mib_b78sci: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#4271 [20:12] <LC98> so you said that the error I have happens on Macs?
#4272 [20:12] <mib_b78sci> what?
#4273 [20:12] * ThuGie [ThuGie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4274 [20:12] <ThuGie> hey
#4275 [20:12] <Kealper> LC98: i've seen that error before on macs, yes
#4276 [20:13] <mib_l6oiyv> working on that thing
#4277 [20:13] <Kealper> LC98: not sure if i asked this already, but has it worked before?
#4278 [20:13] <The_Gambit> how do i put this skin i found as myskin for my char
#4279 [20:13] <ThuGie> hey guys i have a question is there somewhere a full tut on the format of the classic map ?
#4280 [20:13] <LC98> SMP? yes.
#4281 [20:13] <mib_b78sci> Kealper and VoxelHead, what do you mean?
#4282 [20:13] <ThuGie> like how to send it not file format unless it sends the file :p
#4283 [20:13] <Kealper> mib_b78sci: update you graphics drivers
#4284 [20:13] <mib_b78sci> I dont have one...
#4285 [20:13] <ThuGie> i found on the wiki a bit of info + java code but i aint that good with java
#4286 [20:14] <mib_b78sci> Graphic driver?
#4287 [20:14] <mib_b78sci> what is that?
#4288 [20:14] <ThuGie> mib_b78sci do this go to start run and then typ dxdiag
#4289 [20:14] <Kealper> ThuGie: did you want like protocol-level stuff on classic? or what?
#4290 [20:14] <ThuGie> there you can find what graphic driver you have
#4291 [20:14] <ThuGie> well i found the protocol on the wiki
#4292 [20:14] <ThuGie> but not that sure on how to generate a map
#4293 [20:14] * netwired [netwired@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4294 [20:14] <netwired> sorry had to reboot
#4295 [20:15] <netwired> anyway.. black screen inbrowser
#4296 [20:15] <ThuGie> with dxdiag go to display
#4297 [20:15] <Kealper> netwired: open it up in the browser again, and leave it there after it goes black and tell me
#4298 [20:15] <netwired> k
#4299 [20:15] <ThuGie> it will tell you your graphic card name just google it and download the latest drivers for it
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#4301 [20:15] <netwired> ok Kealper
#4302 [20:16] <ThuGie> i found > http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Creation_and_saving_class but it doesnt really tell me about generating
#4303 [20:16] <netwired> I get the "Done Loading"
#4304 [20:16] <Kealper> netwired: it's sitting at the black screen right now?
#4305 [20:16] <netwired> yes
#4306 [20:16] <mib_b78sci> NVIDIA GeForce 9100
#4307 [20:16] <Kealper> netwired: see the little white coffee cup icon in the bottom right of your screen, next to the computer clock?
#4308 [20:16] <mib_l6oiyv> ok i just pasted the thing now
#4309 [20:17] <netwired> the Java icon yes
#4310 [20:17] <Kealper> mib_l6oiyv: now give the link in here, pastebin is kinda large
#4311 [20:17] <Kealper> netwired: right click it and select to open the console
#4312 [20:17] <netwired> done.
#4313 [20:17] <mib_l6oiyv> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 7/8/2011, 01:10:48 Machine name: DD603C1J Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.101209-1647) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model:
#4314 [20:17] <Kealper> netwired: when you get that open, click the copy button and then go to http://pastebin.com and paste that into there, and give the url in here
#4315 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> morning, kids
#4316 [20:18] <ThuGie> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_180.48_whql.html this driver should work for you
#4317 [20:18] <Kealper> mib_l6oiyv: Please put the whole thing on http://pastebin.com and then give the URL to that paste in here.
#4318 [20:18] <The_Gambit> My desktop Graphic card Nividia GT 9800 Just went out a week ago. have to Get a new one :d
#4319 [20:18] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: ello
#4320 [20:18] <ThuGie> that sucks The_Gambit
#4321 [20:18] <LC98> I tried playing in browser and it says the required plugin is not installed.
#4322 [20:18] <Kealper> LC98: then Java is not installed fully
#4323 [20:18] <netwired> Kealper http://pastebin.com/LuDggFWV
#4324 [20:18] <mib_b78sci> ThuGie, so i have to download that? Im new to all of this. Skype me?
#4325 [20:19] <ThuGie> http://www.java.com/en/download/ < download the latest version of java LC98
#4326 [20:19] <Kealper> LC98: go in to the installed programs on your computer and uninstall anything with Java in it's name, then reinstall Java
#4327 [20:19] <The_Gambit> 150bucks for a new one
#4328 [20:19] <ThuGie> just download it and install it mib_b7
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#4330 [20:19] <mib_b78sci> i have update 26 already
#4331 [20:19] <ThuGie> what browser are you using firefox ?
#4332 [20:20] <Kealper> netwired: found the issue
#4333 [20:20] <ThuGie> was firefox installed when you installed java ?
#4334 [20:20] <Kealper> ??> netwired win/reinst
#4335 [20:20] <VoxelHead> netwired: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4336 [20:20] * lemon-rev kealper i belive theres too many people chatting at once to understand where your up to
#4336 [20:20] <VoxelHead> netwired: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the run command, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4337 [20:20] <mib_b78sci> right now, google chrome. but when i play minecraft i downloaded it and play it on desktop
#4338 [20:20] <Kealper> lemon-rev: wut
#4339 [20:20] <netwired> k will try
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#4341 [20:21] * lemon-rev kealper theres far too many people just saying things about why they havent got it to run and tryed to install and all that crap, we seriously need a one at a time system
#4341 [20:21] <netwired> downloading..
#4342 [20:21] <ThuGie> ah wait .. srry was thinking about classic.
#4343 [20:22] <mib_b78sci> ok
#4344 [20:22] <collin> hi
#4345 [20:22] <ThuGie> browser doesnt really matter if you play normal minecraft
#4346 [20:22] <collin> i have a problem
#4347 [20:22] <mib_b78sci> ok, so what do I need to do
#4348 [20:22] <ThuGie> mib_b7 you start the minecraft.exe right ?
#4349 [20:22] <Kealper> lemon-rev: it happens
#4350 [20:22] <ThuGie> what happens does it not load at all or what ?
#4351 [20:22] <lemon-rev> yes
#4352 [20:22] <ThuGie> btw did you also try the second minecraft.exe from the site ?
#4353 [20:22] <mib_b78sci> Who me?
#4354 [20:22] <mib_b78sci> idk
#4355 [20:22] <netwired> ok.. that works for the browser.. what about the launcher
#4356 [20:23] <mib_l6oiyv> there i put the entire dxdiag on paste bin
#4357 [20:23] <ThuGie> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp < download the second launcher
#4358 [20:23] <Kealper> ThuGie: the second exe is no different from the first one, aside from the way it's linked
#4359 [20:23] <collin> i just updated my java and now minecraft wont work in browser and i treid to use luancher but that wont come up at all can anyone help???
#4360 [20:23] <mib_b78sci> i have the second one, when i went to download MC in may, the 1st one didnt work.
#4361 [20:24] * lemon-rev my surgestion to people if you have add removed java reinstalled it java.com < that didnt work, reinstalled minecraft that didnt work < updated graphics driver that didnt work < and tryed though login into minecraft.net and click broswer if that didnt work, then your computer isnt good :P
#4361 [20:24] <ThuGie> ah really lol :p
#4362 [20:24] <mib_l6oiyv> http://pastebin.com/N6YEL4X6
#4363 [20:24] <ThuGie> i thought it was a version that had other input for java haha :p
#4364 [20:24] <mib_b78sci> ... so what do I do so it doesnt crash after 2 mins?
#4365 [20:24] <ThuGie> mib_b78sci what exactly was your problem. i dropped in half way so.
#4366 [20:24] <ThuGie> ah it crashes after 2 min ?
#4367 [20:24] <ThuGie> whats the error ?
#4368 [20:24] <mib_b78sci> and it drops a notepad doc on the desktop
#4369 [20:25] <Kealper> mib_l6oiyv: your computer is not good enough to play Minecraft
#4370 [20:25] <ThuGie> you could check your video options. perhaps disable advance uhm wth was the name :p
#4371 [20:25] <ThuGie> pastbin the error log
#4372 [20:25] <The_Gambit> Question: This Skin Image Is not changing to the one i want. How do I get it to change?
#4373 [20:25] <mib_l6oiyv> kealper?
#4374 [20:25] <mib_b78sci> the notepad says:
#4375 [20:25] <mib_b78sci> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x4ff9a9b3, pid=248, tid=3328 # # JRE version: 6.0_26-b03 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.1-b02 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [nvoglv32.DLL+0x59a9b3] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
#4376 [20:25] <ThuGie> try setting advance opengl to off
#4377 [20:25] <mib_b78sci> blah blah, much mor
#4378 [20:26] <mib_l6oiyv> i fucking knew it waste of 15 euro then
#4379 [20:26] <ThuGie> mib_b78sci pastbin the whole file lol
#4380 [20:26] <mib_b78sci> what does that mean? how
#4381 [20:26] <Kealper> mib_l6oiyv: you can get a refund if there is no other computers yo ucan use
#4382 [20:26] <Kealper> you can*
#4383 [20:26] <mib_b78sci> i did before... 1 sec
#4384 [20:26] <ThuGie> http://pastebin.com
#4385 [20:26] <mib_b78sci> http://pastebin.com/EQ1qjgpQ
#4386 [20:26] <mib_b78sci> there ya go
#4387 [20:27] <Kealper> i guess he didn't want info on how to get a refund.....oh well
#4388 [20:27] <mib_b78sci> lol
#4389 [20:27] <netwired> still getting "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#4390 [20:27] <LC98> need to reboot.
#4391 [20:27] <Kealper> ??> netwired win/hosts
#4392 [20:27] <VoxelHead> netwired: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#4393 [20:27] <mib_b78sci> you there ThuGie?
#4394 [20:27] <VoxelHead> netwired: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#4395 [20:27] <ThuGie> yes i am was looking tru the log
#4396 [20:27] <mib_b78sci> ok
#4397 [20:28] <ThuGie> have you tried setting advance opengl to off ?
#4398 [20:28] <mib_b78sci> what is that? how?
#4399 [20:28] <ThuGie> its in your options
#4400 [20:28] <mib_b78sci> in MC?
#4401 [20:28] <ThuGie> open up minecraft enter options
#4402 [20:28] <ThuGie> yes
#4403 [20:28] <ThuGie> you have to login first though
#4404 [20:29] <netwired> VoxelHead: http://pastebin.com/7v40qZtc
#4405 [20:29] <mib_b78sci> ok im in options, go to video settings?
#4406 [20:29] <mib_b78sci> ok, advanced opengl is OFF
#4407 [20:29] <ThuGie> try now then mib_b78sci
#4408 [20:29] <ThuGie> and netwired you sure thats your whole hosts file lol :p
#4409 [20:30] <netwired> yes lol
#4410 [20:30] <ThuGie> as i dont see 127.0.0.1 localhost anywhere..
#4411 [20:30] <The_Gambit> Help on getting this skin to work.
#4412 [20:30] <Kealper> netwired: hmmmmmmm......and the launcher has worked before, right?
#4413 [20:30] <mib_b78sci> try now what? turning it on?
#4414 [20:30] <netwired> launcher worked last night, when i got home after work it doesn't
#4415 [20:30] <mib_b78sci> it's been off
#4416 [20:30] <Kealper> ThuGie: scroll down? it looks like a stock hosts file to me
#4417 [20:30] <ThuGie> oh right anybody here know anything about minecraft classic protocol and map format ?
#4418 [20:30] <ThuGie> try playing mib_b78sci
#4419 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> ThuGie: there's a wiki for the Classic protocol and save format
#4420 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> one moment
#4421 [20:31] <mib_b78sci> ok, but i dont see how there will be a diff. i didnt change anything
#4422 [20:31] <ThuGie> Kealper there isnt anything for me lol in the pastbin
#4423 [20:31] <Kealper> netwired: that is weird...i have no idea what is causing it if it's nothing stopping it from connecting correctly :/
#4424 [20:31] <ThuGie> DopeGhoti i found that the protocol helps alot
#4425 [20:31] <ThuGie> but i want more info about the map format that i have to send
#4426 [20:31] <ThuGie> the save format i dont need
#4427 [20:31] <ThuGie> i might fix up something for that myself
#4428 [20:31] <Kealper> ThuGie: gzipped NBT, that's about all i know off the top of my head
#4429 [20:32] <netwired> i don't get it either
#4430 [20:32] <ThuGie> nbt is for beta right :S
#4431 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> ThuGie: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Classic_Level_Format
#4432 [20:32] <The_Gambit> Anyone Help me on getting this skin to work?
#4433 [20:32] <Kealper> NBT is a generic container for pretty much all stuff Minecraft needs saved, iirc
#4434 [20:33] <ThuGie> uhm.
#4435 [20:33] <ThuGie> so thats all info DopeGhoti ?
#4436 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> ThuGie: most of that page is information, yes.
#4437 [20:34] <ThuGie> sorry i mean that is all the information there is ? :p
#4438 [20:34] <ThuGie> since it seems its file format
#4439 [20:34] <ThuGie> is it send in the same format ?
#4440 [20:34] <Kealper> i think so
#4441 [20:34] <mib_b78sci> ThuGie, it didnt do anything
#4442 [20:34] <Kealper> i think it's just the mclevel file that's been gzip compressed
#4443 [20:34] <ThuGie> uhm i see
#4444 [20:35] <ThuGie> mib_b78sci sorry then i dont know.. :/
#4445 [20:35] <Kealper> one way to fine out.....try it and see if the game crashes lol
#4446 [20:35] <mib_b78sci> fo real?
#4447 [20:35] <The_Gambit> Kealper: really quick how do i get this skin to Upload? Doesnt want to upload.
#4448 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> ThuGie: http://mc.kev009.com/MCLevel_Format and http://mc.kev009.com/Classic_Protocol
#4449 [20:35] <mib_b78sci> damn :O
#4450 [20:35] <Kealper> The_Gambit: you have to go ingame to see if it worked or not, iirc
#4451 [20:35] <netwired> ok.. its something to do with my computer.. just tried on a diff machine and i can login fine - copied over the working folder and testing on my main.. and don't work
#4452 [20:36] <Kealper> ??> netwired win/profile
#4453 [20:36] <VoxelHead> netwired: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4454 [20:36] <ThuGie> DopeGhoti the first link is pretty much empty
#4455 [20:36] <VoxelHead> netwired: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#4456 [20:36] <ThuGie> and the second one is a copy from the normal wiki.
#4457 [20:37] <netwired> well.. i just ran "Updater.exe" and did a force update and it let me login.. launcher still don't work though
#4458 [20:37] <ThuGie> this sucks it seems the info depens on me using java..
#4459 [20:38] * tommy1222 [tommy1222@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4460 [20:38] <netwired> brb creating a new Computer user and testing
#4461 [20:38] <tommy1222> Can someone help me?
#4462 [20:38] <tommy1222> ... Please?
#4463 [20:39] <tommy1222> Anyone?
#4464 [20:39] <Kealper> ?? ask
#4465 [20:39] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4466 [20:39] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4467 [20:42] <tommy1222> Ok, lately when I play MC after a couple of mins it closes automatically and leaves a notepad on the desktop saying: http://mibpaste.com/nNqdRh
#4468 [20:42] <tommy1222> Is there a quick fix for this?
#4469 [20:44] <ThuGie> what is there is a fix but its not quick.. would you still take it i wonder..
#4470 [20:44] * LC98 [LC98@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4471 [20:45] <ThuGie> well at least try a forced update
#4472 [20:45] <ThuGie> and perhaps update java.
#4473 [20:45] <tommy1222> Forced update on what?
#4474 [20:45] <LC98> Kealper you there?
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#4476 [20:45] <ThuGie> minecraft
#4477 [20:45] <tommy1222> Java, how?
#4478 [20:45] <ThuGie> just open the launcher
#4479 [20:45] <netwired> that didn't work..
#4480 [20:45] <tommy1222> Minecraft?
#4481 [20:45] <tommy1222> I think im at the latest version
#4482 [20:45] <ThuGie> open the launcher and go to options
#4483 [20:46] <ThuGie> press forced update
#4484 [20:46] <tommy1222> Launcher?
#4485 [20:46] <tommy1222> Whats that?
#4486 [20:46] <ThuGie> the minecraft.exe
#4487 [20:47] <tommy1222> Where?
#4488 [20:47] <tommy1222> Ugh I'm lost.
#4489 [20:47] <ThuGie> .. you have minecraft.exe right ?
#4490 [20:47] <ThuGie> open it
#4491 [20:47] <ThuGie> then before you login
#4492 [20:47] <ThuGie> press options
#4493 [20:47] <ThuGie> there you press force update
#4494 [20:47] <ThuGie> how can you be lost.. in that.
#4495 [20:48] <tommy1222> Right click the minecraft icon on desktop?
#4496 [20:48] <ThuGie> wth when did i say that..
#4497 [20:48] <ThuGie> just open it up like normal
#4498 [20:48] <tommy1222> I have no idea
#4499 [20:48] <ThuGie> wow..
#4500 [20:48] <ThuGie> start up minecraft
#4501 [20:48] <tommy1222> ok
#4502 [20:48] <ThuGie> you know how to do that right :S
#4503 [20:48] <tommy1222> its open
#4504 [20:48] <tommy1222> yes LOL
#4505 [20:48] <tommy1222> oh this screen -.-
#4506 [20:48] <ThuGie> now press the options button
#4507 [20:49] <tommy1222> i see !
#4508 [20:49] <ThuGie> then press force update
#4509 [20:49] <ThuGie> and login
#4510 [20:49] <tommy1222> ok, doin its thing... downloadin packages and what not...
#4511 [20:49] <tommy1222> done
#4512 [20:49] <tommy1222> :D
#4513 [20:49] <ThuGie> ok try now perhaps it doesnt crash anymore
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#4515 [20:50] <tommy1222> ok, give me like 2 mins
#4516 [20:50] <tommy1222> flymod isnt working :((((((((((
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#4518 [20:50] <ThuGie> lol ofcourse not all mods are undone.
#4519 [20:50] <ThuGie> you probably where crashing because of one of the mods btw
#4520 [20:50] <ThuGie> fly mod lol
#4521 [20:50] <tommy1222> NOOOOOOOOOOO MY FLYMOD!!!!
#4522 [20:51] <ThuGie> why do people who use mods come here about crashes :S
#4523 [20:51] <Kealper> because they think we care
#4524 [20:51] <tommy1222> ... D:
#4525 [20:51] <ThuGie> let me guess most of the time it crashed when you where flying ?
#4526 [20:51] <tommy1222> um, never noticed
#4527 [20:52] <ThuGie> thats a yes. i normaly fly everywhere because its easy ?
#4528 [20:52] * mib_u10quh [mib_u10quh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4529 [20:52] <mr_boo> Hey i downloaded a texture pack on minecraft and it froze my minecraft and i cant play it!!! how do i remove the texture pack?!? plz reply
#4530 [20:53] <ThuGie> open up the launcher
#4531 [20:53] <ThuGie> go to options
#4532 [20:53] <ThuGie> there you see the directory where minecraft files are stored
#4533 [20:53] <ThuGie> press it
#4534 [20:53] <ThuGie> go to the directory texturepacks and delete it
#4535 [20:53] <mr_boo> i cant my minecraft menu is frozen
#4536 [20:53] <ThuGie> close minecraft
#4537 [20:53] <ThuGie> and just open the launcher
#4538 [20:53] <ThuGie> and before you login
#4539 [20:53] <ThuGie> go to options
#4540 [20:53] <tommy1222> havent crashed yet
#4541 [20:53] <ThuGie> alt+ctrl+del to close it if it doesnt close
#4542 [20:53] <ThuGie> or alt+f4 if it works..
#4543 [20:54] <ThuGie> good tommy1222
#4544 [20:54] <mr_boo> its been doing this for a month though
#4545 [20:54] <mr_boo> it freezes every time
#4546 [20:55] <ThuGie> because of the texture right
#4547 [20:55] <ThuGie> so just delete it
#4548 [20:55] <mr_boo> ok ill try that
#4549 [20:56] <tommy1222> AH HA! IT JUST CRAHED AND I DIDNT USE FLYMOD!
#4550 [20:56] <tommy1222> :D
#4551 [20:56] <mib_u10quh> hey i get the BWOD right when i log in and i deleted everything that has to do with the game then re installed and my java is up to data and i still get the BWOD
#4552 [20:56] <ThuGie> then its something else.
#4553 [20:57] <ThuGie> bwod ?
#4554 [20:57] <tommy1222> ThuGie, it crashed... no mods
#4555 [20:57] <ThuGie> i read that yeah. then its something else
#4556 [20:57] <tommy1222> like whaaaaaat
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#4558 [20:58] <ThuGie> not suuureeee
#4559 [20:58] <tommy1222> ooooooookaaayyaaaaaaaaaaayaaaaa
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#4561 [20:59] <mib_6etkt0> HEY I NEED HELP WHEN I INSTALLED MINECRAFT I LOGED IN IT SAID NOT DOWNLOADED FOR SIGLEPLAYER
#4562 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> ??>? mr_boo win/.minecraft
#4563 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> ??> mr_boo win/.minecraft
#4564 [20:59] <VoxelHead> mr_boo: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#4565 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> tommy1222: didn't _use_ flymod, or didn't have it _installed_?
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#4569 [21:08] <mib_mck53f> i boght the game how do i play i
#4570 [21:08] <mib_mck53f> it
#4571 [21:08] <Vizzy> "account issues"... does that mean you can't help with the fact that I can't use the premium account I just bought?
#4572 [21:09] <mib_mck53f> penis
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#4574 [21:10] <Kealper> man i hate people
#4575 [21:11] <xolotl> heh
#4576 [21:11] <xolotl> Misanthropes unite!
#4577 [21:11] <xolotl> Surliest political party ever.
#4578 [21:13] <Vizzy> Meh, I'll find another form of aid. I'm too impatient =P
#4579 [21:14] <Vizzy> have a nice day, all!
#4580 [21:14] <xolotl> Heh, he'll have a ball dealing with the actually-semi-official Minecraft support, then.
#4581 [21:16] <mr_boo> HEY THANKS VOXIEHEAD IT WORKED
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#4586 [21:21] <zelda> my game says its run out of memory
#4587 [21:21] <Kreyesh> Hello everyone, i have a problem starting up the game, crashes to desktop after updating and leaves a text file that says something about java problems but i have updated all drivers and have the newest java installed
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#4589 [21:22] <bigto> hello, everybody
#4590 [21:22] <Kreyesh> I am also unable to play the browser version, just leaves me with a black box or nothing at all
#4591 [21:22] <zelda> hey
#4592 [21:22] <bigto> someone uses dynmap plugin here?
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#4594 [21:23] <bigto> i want a mywarp integration in my dynmap map, how to do this, please?
#4595 [21:23] <zelda> my game says its run out of memory
#4596 [21:24] <gamakichi> hey does anyone know why minecraft only works in browsers?
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#4599 [21:25] <gamakichi> like it works in browser but when i download both exes it doesnt work
#4600 [21:27] <Kreyesh> I cant even get it to work in browser, some kind of java error, even though i updated to the newest java
#4601 [21:27] <Kreyesh> But it would appear that the people that can help are all offline, probably work 9-5 or something, ugh
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#4609 [21:36] <raven> trying to run the game and there is a "java" issue that we can't fix. any suggestions
#4610 [21:36] <raven> i don't want to have paid this money and not be able to even use the game
#4611 [21:38] <raven> no suggestions?
#4612 [21:38] <xolotl> raven: Be patient
#4613 [21:38] <xolotl> raven: Everyone here isn't just hanging on their IRC clients like slaves waiting to answer questions; it might take a few (even, say, tens) of minutes
#4614 [21:39] <xolotl> raven: As it is: be more specific. What's the exact issue, with the exact error, etc?
#4615 [21:40] <raven> fatal error with java runtime
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#4617 [21:41] <raven> my son researched the internet and found that it's an error that people have been getting with minecraft since February so I thought I'd hop on here and see if there were any suggestions
#4618 [21:41] <xolotl> raven: Is there more to the error than that? If so, go to pastebin.com, put it all in there, hit submit, and then give us the link
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#4620 [21:46] <sluggo> hello any1 plzz
#4621 [21:46] <sluggo> i have 1 question
#4622 [21:47] <sluggo> hello plzzzzzzzz any1
#4623 [21:47] <sluggo> how do i play regular minecraft not the beta
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#4625 [21:48] <sluggo> omg
#4626 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Just use the website, look for "classic"
#4627 [21:49] <sluggo> it wont let me it say minecraft beta download or in browser
#4628 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> What's below that?
#4629 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Still there
#4630 [21:50] <sluggo> umm hold on
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#4632 [21:51] <sluggo> tya it says play minecraft classic (outdated but free) but i bought the game
#4633 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Then you want the beta.
#4634 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> The beta is the one currently in development, which you paid for.
#4635 [21:52] <sluggo> y it keeps on lagging and im frustrated
#4636 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Try turning down the video options inside it then.
#4637 [21:52] <sluggo> k
#4638 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Turn Advanced OpenGL to Off, turn performance from balanced to power saver, turn quality from fancy to fast
#4639 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Also, distance from far to normal
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#4641 [21:53] <stomper> I just got minecraft today and noticed that when i try to mine anything other than sand or dirt the game doesnt spawn a smaller block to pick up, i have updated java and tried the game online and off. i have also reinstalled it 3 times. any ideas?
#4642 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> stomper - You need to use an actual tool to mine some of those. wooden pickaxe for stone
#4643 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> stone pickaxe for iron
#4644 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> iron pickaxe for gold and diamond.. and so on
#4645 [21:54] <stomper> hmm, i seem dumb. i forgot about that hhaha. i just play at my friends house and i have never started a new game. thanks for the advice
#4646 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> No worries, the wiki is also a great resource: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#4647 [21:55] <stomper> thanks
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#4649 [21:56] <mib_dktiue> my game has crashed
#4650 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> How did it crash? Do you get any error reports?
#4651 [21:56] <mib_dktiue> no
#4652 [21:56] <sluggo> greyvulpine its still lagging and it deleted my world!!!!!!\
#4653 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - It deleted your world? Huh?
#4654 [21:57] <mib_dktiue> oo sry bro
#4655 [21:57] <sluggo> ya and its still laggy
#4656 [21:57] <raven> here is where i pasted my error http://pastebin.com/n1TguLX2
#4657 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Then there may be nothing you can do at all, your computer might not be able to handle minecraft
#4658 [21:58] <sluggo> what omfg i just payed 20bucks for nothing
#4659 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> raven - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#4660 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> ??> raven win/dxdiag
#4661 [21:58] <VoxelHead> raven: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4662 [21:58] <VoxelHead> raven: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#4663 [21:58] <mib_dktiue> i was trying to play my world and then it just froze on me then it kicked me out of my server
#4664 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - If you have a better computer, you can play on that one
#4665 [21:58] <sluggo> do u have any more suggestions
#4666 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - No, sorry.
#4667 [21:59] <raven> what does that do? that wont open me up to others will it?
#4668 [21:59] <sluggo> wait vulpine
#4669 [21:59] <sluggo> a pop up just said
#4670 [22:00] <sluggo> virtual memory to low
#4671 [22:00] <mib_dktiue> I was going on minecraft and then it blacked out on me then it showed Minecraft Crashed! any help with that
#4672 [22:00] <sluggo> how do i increase space
#4673 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I think your computer may not be good enough for minecraft
#4674 [22:00] <sluggo> me!!!!!!!!!
#4675 [22:01] <mib_dktiue> help me pleese
#4676 [22:01] <raven> if this is info for my puter that wont work cause it's my son who is trying to play the game and i am on my computer asking for help cause he is frustrated
#4677 [22:01] <xolotl> raven: No, that dxdiag output will just give us some more information about your system
#4678 [22:01] <xolotl> raven: It's kind of a strange error; I suspect that possibly updating graphics drivers will help, but it'll help to know more
#4679 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> xolotl - Usually comes from either java being corrupted, or the computer being too old.
#4680 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> xolotl - My experience, it's the latter
#4681 [22:01] <xolotl> ah, k
#4682 [22:02] <xolotl> raven: Well anyway, run the dxdiag on your son's computer
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#4684 [22:03] <mudpit> i need to play ive already payed but it wont let me play
#4685 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Why won't it let you play?
#4686 [22:05] <mudpit> i dont know i bought it already and it just wont let me even play
#4687 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> How do you know it won't let you play? What error do you get?
#4688 [22:06] <sluggo> greyvulpine this is wat it says when i try to download the beta
#4689 [22:06] <sluggo> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 7/7/11 10:05 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.7.2 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.6.0_
#4690 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Give us a dxdiag:
#4691 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> ??> sluggo win/dxdiag
#4692 [22:06] <VoxelHead> sluggo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#4693 [22:06] <VoxelHead> sluggo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#4694 [22:07] <sluggo> kk tht sounds so complicated though
#4695 [22:08] <sluggo> where is the win key
#4696 [22:08] <mudpit> it dnt giv me an error it just dosnt let me play i bought it it said server was slow it would send me an email n its been a long time n i wana play
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#4699 [22:10] <mudpit> plzz help me in realy wana play
#4700 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> mudpit - What said the server was slow?
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#4702 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> The thing you used to pay for it? The game?
#4703 [22:10] <mudpit> i used a visa gift card and it just dosnt let me
#4704 [22:11] <codeman538894> Ok, the game worked yesterday, and i run it today, click on the icon and nothing will happen
#4705 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Gift cards generally don't work.
#4706 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Try a credit card
#4707 [22:11] <mudpit> ok
#4708 [22:11] <mib_dktiue> can some1 help me
#4709 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> codeman538894 - Windows? Mac? Linux?
#4710 [22:12] <mib_dktiue> windows\
#4711 [22:12] <codeman538894> Windows, haven't changed a thing
#4712 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> codeman538894 - Have you done a fresh reboot lately?
#4713 [22:12] <mib_dktiue> it crashes tho
#4714 [22:13] <mudpit> is there a number i can contact you at
#4715 [22:13] <codeman538894> just did and thats the second time today, and redownloaded mc
#4716 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> mudpit - No. We're all volunteers here. We're not affiliated with Mojang.
#4717 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> I'm not giving you my number
#4718 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> codeman538894 - How much RAM do you have on the system?
#4719 [22:14] <mib_dktiue> is any1 able to help me
#4720 [22:14] <mudpit> ok ill try a credit card n if it donst work i will chat u bak ok
#4721 [22:14] <codeman538894> I have no idea
#4722 [22:14] <codeman538894> how do i find out
#4723 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> codeman538894 - Go to your start menu, right click on Computer, go to properties. Look for RAM or Memory
#4724 [22:14] <codeman538894> 2 Gb
#4725 [22:15] <codeman538894> crappy computer
#4726 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, could you do this:
#4727 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#4728 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> It'll try to launch minecraft via a batch file, which will open up a command prompt
#4729 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Any errors that pop up, will appear there.
#4730 [22:15] <codeman538894> Ohhh i did try to update java and it stops and says it failed
#4731 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> That, might be why then
#4732 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Try a full uninstall/reinstall of java
#4733 [22:16] <codeman538894> Where can i uninstall it
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#4735 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> start -> control panel -> add/remove programs, or uninstall a program, or Programs and features
#4736 [22:16] <codeman538894> ok lemme try
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#4738 [22:16] <sluggo> how do i get to the irc channel?
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#4740 [22:16] <sluggo> greyvulpine
#4741 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> This is the IRC channel
#4742 [22:17] <sluggo> how do i get to tthe irc channel?
#4743 [22:17] <Kramer> sluggo: You're in #minecrafthelp, which is an IRC channel.
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#4745 [22:17] <sluggo> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 7/7/2011, 22:09:27 Machine name: USER-DA77CB2827 Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.101209-1647) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell In
#4746 [22:18] <MrCamelTom> hey guys can u tell me how to install mods?
#4747 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Oi. Please paste it at www.pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the address to it sluggo
#4748 [22:18] <klesey> I try to open Minecraft client side (the downloaded one) and I know my internet is okay but it won't connect to the internet. I can only play in the browser and with recent mods I installed I get black screen on browser although they do work on offline single player mode. Please help me
#4749 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> klesey - Did you pay for minecraft?
#4750 [22:18] <klesey> Yes
#4751 [22:18] <sluggo> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 7/7/2011, 22:09:27 Machine name: USER-DA77CB2827 Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.101209-1647) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System
#4752 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> What exact error message do you get when you try to log in?
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#4754 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Again, pastebin.com
#4755 [22:19] <sluggo> do i have to sign in
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#4757 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> No
#4758 [22:19] <sluggo> or register
#4759 [22:19] <sluggo> kk
#4760 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Paste it there, press the submit button, and give us the address
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#4762 [22:19] <sluggo> where is the address located
#4763 [22:19] <klesey> It just looks like I am not conenc ted to the internet. Like im in a car away from home and just playing offline. The login screen looks like that
#4764 [22:19] <Kramer> The address bar...
#4765 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> klesey - Then, you may have a security software or firewall blocking minecraft or java
#4766 [22:20] <klesey> I know what is causing it now that you said that. Network Magic. What can I use to fix it then?
#4767 [22:20] <sluggo> vulpine where is the address located
#4768 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> See where http://www.pastebin..... is located?
#4769 [22:20] <Kramer> sluggo: [19:19:37] <Kramer> The address bar...
#4770 [22:21] <klesey> I can't take network magic off of my computer since it is where I get my internet access from
#4771 [22:21] <sluggo> ya where is it located
#4772 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Top of your browser?
#4773 [22:22] <sluggo> http://pastebin.com/mApNbfvs
#4774 [22:22] <sluggo> that?
#4775 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#4776 [22:22] <sluggo> ok
#4777 [22:22] <klesey> vulpine?
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#4779 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you're not running minecraft on half a gig of RAM, and computer that looks to be at least 5-10 years old
#4780 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Get another computer
#4781 [22:23] <klesey> ...
#4782 [22:23] <klesey> My computer is new
#4783 [22:23] <sluggo> me
#4784 [22:23] <klesey> oh sorry
#4785 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - yes.
#4786 [22:23] <sluggo> :[
#4787 [22:23] <sluggo> can my registered acc on minecraft go anywhere
#4788 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Yes
#4789 [22:23] <sluggo> any comp
#4790 [22:24] <xolotl> MrCamelTom: #bukkit is the place to go for server mods, #risucraft is the place to go for client mods
#4791 [22:24] <Kealper> sluggo: yes, once you buy the game, it is yours to do whatever you want with. you can play it on any number of computers
#4792 [22:25] <klesey> Can you tell me if I can play it with out Network Magic? Because network magic is what is giving me access to internet but it is also blocking client minecraft.
#4793 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> klesey - Sorry, couldn't tell you.
#4794 [22:25] <sluggo> im pissed
#4795 [22:25] <klesey> I can no longer play on browser because of mods
#4796 [22:25] <klesey> Alright... Well thank you guys anyways
#4797 [22:25] <klesey> well could i get it to stop blocking minecrsft?
#4798 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> klesey - I'm not familiar with network magic at all to give you any credible advice.. sorry.
#4799 [22:26] <wilma> same
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#4801 [22:26] <wilma> same
#4802 [22:26] <klesey> Okay. Thank you so much for figuring out the problem though..
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#4809 [22:43] <rumpler> guys i need help
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#4811 [22:46] <MilknCereal> hello
#4812 [22:46] <MilknCereal> can someone help me
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#4814 [22:49] <rumpler> can someone help me
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#4816 [22:50] <mib_i1j8gx> hey wats the mod support channel
#4817 [22:51] <rumpler> my game wont update can someone help me
#4818 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_i1j8gx - #risucraft for SP mods, #bukkit for MP
#4819 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> rumpler - Why won't it update?
#4820 [22:53] <rumpler> i dont know it stops right when i hit update it saids error has occured and failed to launch its been happing for about a mounth
#4821 [22:54] <rumpler> you think you can help me
#4822 [22:54] <rumpler> ??
#4823 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> rumpler - Could you perhaps upload a screenshot of the actual error, post it at imgur.com and give me the address?
#4824 [22:58] <rumpler> i could try
#4825 [22:59] <rumpler> no it wont work
#4826 [22:59] <rumpler> :(
#4827 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> What won't work?
#4828 [23:00] <rumpler> it wont let me upload i pic of it
#4829 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> at imgur.com?
#4830 [23:01] <rumpler> no i cant get i pic of it
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#4832 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
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#4834 [23:02] <rumpler> umm whats that lol never heard of it
#4835 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Are you using windows? Mac? linux?
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#4837 [23:03] <rumpler> o windows
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#4839 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the prnt scrn button on your keyboard, upper right side?
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#4841 [23:04] <rumpler> no but i cant print anyways
#4842 [23:04] <cheesehoof> does anyone know what causes classic multi to fail on connect with "You can't connect to the server via this URL anymore!"
#4843 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> cheesehoof - Yes, you can't use the ip=port= address anymore
#4844 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> You need to use the unique URL that the server generates
#4845 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> rumpler - Do you not see the button?
#4846 [23:05] <ThuGie> lol you dont need to print it lol
#4847 [23:05] <rumpler> ok lol and yes
#4848 [23:05] <ThuGie> you just make a copy of your current screen save it into a file and upload it to a website
#4849 [23:06] <cheesehoof> how do i find out the correct URL?
#4850 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> cheesehoof -Are you running the server?
#4851 [23:06] <cheesehoof> yes, it's localhost, with the other players on the LAN
#4852 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> You can't run a classic server without an internet connection, do you have internet access to the server?
#4853 [23:07] <ThuGie> use your network ip not localhost also not your wan as long as your on lan
#4854 [23:07] <rumpler> o wait that was the wrong one so no i dont see it
#4855 [23:07] <ThuGie> GreyVulpine you cant ?
#4856 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> ThuGie - Nope.
#4857 [23:07] <cheesehoof> i'm connected
#4858 [23:08] <ThuGie> is it because of the uhm handshake ?
#4859 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> cheesehoof - Then, what you're going to do is, go to your server properties, change Public to true so it'll list it in the server list at http://www.minecraft.net/servers.jsp - You'll then look for your server's name, copy the address it has, and give that out to everybody who wants to connect
#4860 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> ThuGie - Yes
#4861 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> cheesehoof - After grabbing the URL from the server list, you can turn public mode back to false
#4862 [23:09] <cheesehoof> thanks!!
#4863 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Remember you need to restart the server each time you change server.properties
#4864 [23:09] <cheesehoof> totally. tyvm
#4865 [23:09] <rumpler> yea the button i saw was the wrong one so i donr see the prnt button
#4866 [23:09] <ThuGie> Trying to create a classic server myself.
#4867 [23:09] <rumpler> dont*
#4868 [23:09] <ThuGie> but atm stuck with map generation :p
#4869 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> rumpler - You don't see a prnt scrn button at all?
#4870 [23:10] <rumpler> no
#4871 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Are you on a laptop? Desktop?
#4872 [23:10] <rumpler> lap
#4873 [23:10] <ThuGie> what button is above your insert button ?
#4874 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> do you see a button marked insert, or num lk?
#4875 [23:10] <ThuGie> your insert button should be above your arrow keys
#4876 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> ThuGie - Laptop keyboard are arranged a little differently
#4877 [23:11] <rumpler> is that the enter button i havent heard of tht be4
#4878 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> prnt scrn should be in the general vicinity of insert.
#4879 [23:11] <ThuGie> ah hes on a laptop
#4880 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Look directly above the enter key, what's along the top?
#4881 [23:11] <rumpler> del and ins
#4882 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> What's to the left of ins?
#4883 [23:12] <rumpler> f12
#4884 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Oi...
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#4886 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> What laptop do you have?
#4887 [23:12] <rumpler> toshiba
#4888 [23:12] <ThuGie> is he like missing keys lol
#4889 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Toshiba.. what?
#4890 [23:13] <rumpler> a toshiba
#4891 [23:13] <Schala_Zeal> I'm confused in one aspect about redstone... What does the wiki mean by it being "burned out?"
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#4893 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Schala_Zeal - If redstone torches get an on-off signal too quickly, it can stop working.
#4894 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Anything faster than a 4-tick clock, will burn out redstone torches
#4895 [23:14] <Schala_Zeal> hmm... permanently?
#4896 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the situation
#4897 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Most of the time, yes, you'll need to hit the redstone torch, and replace it
#4898 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> rumpler - Can you give me a model?
#4899 [23:14] <rumpler> are you guys also players or people who were hired to help us or are we all players
#4900 [23:14] <rumpler> jw
#4901 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> We're all fans here, community-run support
#4902 [23:15] <Schala_Zeal> I was hoping the material could be salvaged and re-placed
#4903 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Schala_Zeal - It can. You just need to hit it and re-place it
#4904 [23:15] <Schala_Zeal> awesome
#4905 [23:15] <xolotl> Sometimes the circuit needs more rebuiling than just a single torch, btw
#4906 [23:15] <xolotl> Clocks can be a bit tricky
#4907 [23:15] <xolotl> In SMP, be sure to avoid using the "/time" command near them
#4908 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, redstone has a nasty tendancy to burn out for no obvious reason right now. It's a bug that's been there since 1.3
#4909 [23:17] <Schala_Zeal> hmm
#4910 [23:18] <rumpler> is the button have prtsc on it if yes then i see it
#4911 [23:18] <Wug> this 'burning out' can be subverted in a number of ways
#4912 [23:19] <rumpler> does the button*
#4913 [23:19] <Wug> rumpler - yep, thats it
#4914 [23:19] <rumpler> ok i see it
#4915 [23:19] <Wug> hitting it takes a picture of your screen and copies it to the clipboard
#4916 [23:20] <Schala_Zeal> I'm rather concerned about the renewability of resources like iron, redstone, etc. I think I heard Minecraft's universe is as vast as my memory, I hope it's virtually impossible to run out
#4917 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> It is
#4918 [23:20] <Hallicarnassuss> Schala_Zeal, the map of minecraft is nearly unlimited.
#4919 [23:20] <rumpler> ok im so dumb what is the clipboard lol
#4920 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> When you copy stuff, it goes to the clipboard in windows
#4921 [23:21] <xolotl> Schala_Zeal: As Hallicarnassuss said, the map is effectively infinite.
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#4923 [23:22] <frag> i try to purchase it goes all fine till it shows and says u have compleated your purchas but it still says i have to buy it. what do i do?
#4924 [23:22] <rumpler> yo i cant find it i might just be dumb or blind but i cant find it
#4925 [23:23] <Schala_Zeal> excellent
#4926 [23:23] <frag> hello
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#4929 [23:24] <frag> can someone tell me how this works
#4930 [23:24] <rumpler> ask a question and some1 will answer u
#4931 [23:25] <mudpit> ok im back i used the credit card n i got to were it said verivy by visa
#4932 [23:25] <frag> ok thnx
#4933 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> rumpler - The clipboard is just a temporary repository for when you copy stuff, like text, or a picture.
#4934 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> rumpler - Just paste it again to get it out of the clipboard
#4935 [23:25] <rumpler> k
#4936 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> frag - Do you get any emails confirming payment? Can you check your financial institution to see if money was withdrawn?
#4937 [23:26] <frag> my purchase goes trough but i cant play and i can keep repurchasing what can i do to fix it?
#4938 [23:26] <frag> i will
#4939 [23:27] <frag> it still says i have full money and no email confermations
#4940 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Then the money wasn't taken out, and the transaction was never completed.
#4941 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Could you try a different payment method and/or a different payment service?
#4942 [23:28] <frag> on the page it says purchase complete and no i cant.
#4943 [23:28] <Schala_Zeal> I hope some time Notch makes more worlds available.... I'm thinking since the nether is a success, maybe something in space... would be cool to do something space age
#4944 [23:29] <frag> its a visa gift card
#4945 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Schala_Zeal - There'll be a 'sky' realm, akin to the nether
#4946 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> That's been confirmed
#4947 [23:30] <Schala_Zeal> ooo
#4948 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> I can probably dig up the twitter where he mentions it, but it's been a few weeks, it'll be buried
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#4950 [23:30] <frag> it says purchase is complete and its a visa gift card
#4951 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> frag - Gift cards generally won't work because they're usually blocked by the financial institution from being used to make international purchases.
#4952 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Try calling up the cardmember's services on the back of the card
#4953 [23:31] <frag> and then what will happen?
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#4955 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Hopefully, they'll unblock it and you'll be able to use it, or they'll give you a reason why they can't
#4956 [23:32] <frag> ok ill do it then ill get back
#4957 [23:32] <frag> what should i say any tips?
#4958 [23:32] <mudpit> hey grey i found out wat was wrong now it tookj me bak to the home page (mine craft home page) and it said Play Minecraft play in browser and then it download wich one do i do
#4959 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> frag - "I'm trying to use this card to make an international purchase online, however, it's being declined. Could you help me figure out why?"
#4960 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> mudpit - Hmm?
#4961 [23:34] <mudpit> ok never mind ifound out
#4962 [23:34] <rumpler> urgg im so madd
#4963 [23:35] <rumpler> if i type what it saids do u think u can help me then
#4964 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> I suppose.
#4965 [23:36] <rumpler> k
#4966 [23:37] <Schala_Zeal> back... was afk, anyway... after the planned sky realm should be a space realm -- zero gravity, and.... maybe oxygen limitation could be one of the challenges
#4967 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Schala_Zeal - http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/05/19/notch-working-on-minecraft-sky-dimension/
#4968 [23:39] <Schala_Zeal> holy shmoligans
#4969 [23:39] <Schala_Zeal> but yeah space realm would definately be a good successor
#4970 [23:40] <rumpler> error occured (2): C:\Users\Mastaboy\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\version (Acces is denied)
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#4973 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> rumpler - Do you have administrator rights to your account?
#4974 [23:41] <rumpler> what u mean
#4975 [23:41] <huddler> i need help getting on a server for multiplayer. everytime i try, it won't connect
#4976 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Do you have an administrator account on windows?
#4977 [23:41] <rumpler> no
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#4979 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> That would be why then
#4980 [23:42] <huddler> i need help getting on a server for multiplayer. everytime i try, it won't connect
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#4982 [23:42] <rumpler> ty
#4983 [23:42] <huddler> i need help getting on a server for multiplayer. everytime i try, it won't connect
#4984 [23:42] <Quetzen> Hello
#4985 [23:43] <Quetzen> I have a question, is it possible to change the email address connected to my account? I just realized the one I'm using is the one I can't access anymore...
#4986 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> huddler - Are you sure the servers you've tried, are on?
#4987 [23:43] <huddler> yes my bf made the server and he's on it...i just can't seem to get in
#4988 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> huddler - What are you using to connect to him with?
#4989 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> are you both in the same house?
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#4991 [23:44] <huddler> no i'm at my house and he's at his. i have a laptop and he has a PC
#4992 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> Did he port forward and set up his computer correctly?
#4993 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> Can you please try, as a test, connecting to smp.shadow-craft.net
#4994 [23:44] <huddler> he said he did
#4995 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> If that works, then it's not your end
#4996 [23:45] <huddler> okay brb
#4997 [23:46] <Quetzen> Hmm
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#4999 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Quetzen - Yes, but only if you send a really nicely worded email as to why.
#5000 [23:48] <Quetzen> To whom?
#5001 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Quetzen -Check PM
#5002 [23:49] <huddler> okay so that one worked for me
#5003 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> huddler - Then your boyfriend didn't set up his server correctly
#5004 [23:49] <huddler> (: but how do i get my computer not to lag so much?
#5005 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Try turning the detail/video settings down
#5006 [23:50] <frag> my card service its minecraft payment that has a problem which i dont under stand how that could be
#5007 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> frag - It's been our experience that it's the prepaid/gift card's fault that it can't be used for international purchases
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#5009 [23:52] <frag> crap then that was a waste
#5010 [23:53] <oldtopman> frag: What vaalue is it?
#5011 [23:53] <JohnEBH> Use it on steam games
#5012 [23:53] <JohnEBH> It's worth it
#5013 [23:54] <frag> only 25 but still
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#5015 [23:54] <frag> i wanted minecraft
#5016 [23:54] <JohnEBH> lol, Have paypal?
#5017 [23:54] <JohnEBH> I think you can transfer it onto paypal then purchase it
#5018 [23:54] <JohnEBH> Not sure
#5019 [23:55] <frag> no but can i transfer the money to paypal
#5020 [23:55] <frag> sorry didnt see comment ill try it thnx
#5021 [23:57] <JohnEBH> Np
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