#1 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Your server freezes your computer?
#2 [00:00] <Shado_Fang> just the client with that last post
#3 [00:01] <Shado_Fang> the last post was a completlydifferent subject
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#5 [00:01] <guest-0-85160> hello?
#6 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Shado_Fang - Could you elaborate on what your problem is at the moment?
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#8 [00:01] <Shado_Fang> though, if you have a reason why my most recent 1.8.1 server freezes on me like it does right now, i'd be glad to hear it
#9 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> Don't really have a theory on that. Could be java, could be something deeper in your system that's hosing it.
#10 [00:02] <guest-0-85160> can someone help me? my minecraft wont load, it says "cannot connect to minecraft.net" every time i try to log on, but i can play it thru the browser
#11 [00:03] <Shado_Fang> i'm going for either java or my ram on that one, newly installed OS
#12 [00:03] <guest-0-85160> and on my laptop it will connect, just not on my desktop\
#13 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-85160 - Do you get the news feed on the downloaded launcher?
#14 [00:03] <guest-0-85160> yes. i get news feed and everything
#15 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Shado_Fang - Hmm, suggestions then, complete uninstall/reinstall of java.
#16 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Try running memcheck if you have it.
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#18 [00:03] <Thrae> Yeah! HDDs in the RAID5 back up! Now to see if I'll need to re-create the array volume and lose all my data...
#19 [00:04] <Shado_Fang> i'll do both,
#20 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-85160 - It's your system time and date
#21 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> Your computer thinks it's 2004
#22 [00:04] <guest-0-85160> so, if i fix that?
#23 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> It'll work
#24 [00:05] <guest-0-85160> haha, that did it
#25 [00:05] * GreyVulpine tips hat.
#25 [00:05] <guest-0-85160> wow, i shouldnt of turned off atuo update
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#27 [00:05] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: I haven't heard of that before. What's different about the launcher?
#28 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> SSL
#29 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> requires a valid time and date to authenticate
#30 [00:06] <Thrae> Ah
#31 [00:07] <Thrae> Next there'll be a thread on getsatisfaction saying Mojang should "think of the users with dead batteries who are too busy to get it replaced!"
#32 [00:07] * GreyVulpine snrks
#32 [00:08] <Shado_Fang> GreyVulpine: its an old 1.7.3 world, not much care for it anymore, but it contains good stuff i would like to save. the error i got was that, the first time i noticed it, it was full of chicken everywere a player had been, about 50 of them for sure. the next thing i know, i'm lagging like crazy and i can barely do anything, let alone disconnect. MCedit lags just the same when i try to load it and i tried di
#33 [00:08] * Thrae subscribes to the Mac 10.5.8 thread -- how dare they upgrade their 3D graphics technology to ones added 10 years ago!
#33 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Shado_Fang - That sounds like map corruption, I've heard of it before. Don't quite recall how to fix it
#34 [00:08] <Shado_Fang> k
#35 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> Generally, one would revert back to backups, but if you don't have any...
#36 [00:09] <Shado_Fang> i tired loading the backup itself as the main level.dat, same thing
#37 [00:09] <Shado_Fang> tried*
#38 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't be in level.dat, would actually be part of the region files itself
#39 [00:09] <Shado_Fang> as for manual backups, i forgot to make some
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#42 [00:15] * Thrae makes backups of his backups which have backups
#42 [00:16] <ailmanki> Hello, I am trying to receive a skin, that player has a underscore in its name (_) , http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/__b__storm_hun.png
#43 [00:16] <ailmanki> I know that player has a custom skin, cause he was on my server. What do I need todo?
#44 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> ailmanki - Receive a skin?
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#46 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Receive it how?
#47 [00:17] <TheBadShepperd> 470:1f05:1efc::2 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :By receive, I think he means 'steal'.
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#49 [00:17] <ailmanki> http://www.bunkercraft.de/banner_minequery.php
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#51 [00:18] <ailmanki> trying to get those with a underscore, crashes my script :( .. and well I would like to have them.
#52 [00:18] <ailmanki> On the lower left you can see small pics of the head.
#53 [00:21] <ailmanki> GreyVulpine - I use a php script to "receive" it , but it doesn't matter, cause it doesn't work either in a browser. There must be something special I guess for the underscore.
#54 [00:22] <ailmanki> Well maybe I am stupid, and that guy had no skin - but I am pretty sure he did.
#55 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#56 [00:23] <Seither> so...i seemed to have fixed the issue by editing the map AND removing all player data
#57 [00:24] <Thrae> Aren't account names suppose to be alphanumeric *only*?
#58 [00:24] <Seither> however....there are about 50 creepers now spawned in a small area
#59 [00:24] <Thrae> Maybe the skins database is balking at an underscore.
#60 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> You can use underscore
#61 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> I'm not seeing any skins for that particular player
#62 [00:26] <Thrae> !paid __b__storm_hun
#63 [00:26] <Thrae> Well, he's a Premium user at least.
#64 [00:26] <ailmanki> maybe, that tool you use, does fallback to the default skin. At least I am pretty sure he looked like the guy from half-life.
#65 [00:27] <ailmanki> But I will check back, cause now I am not sure anymore.. Kinda strange.
#66 [00:28] <ailmanki> I mean it looks so nice, in a server banner.. lol :) http://www.bunkercraft.de/banner_minequery.php
#67 [00:29] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine, Thrae: user names must be properly capitalized for that :P
#68 [00:30] <|Kiikun|> ex: http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/sennyotai.png wont work
#69 [00:30] <ailmanki> http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/__B__Storm_HUN.png
#70 [00:30] <ailmanki> |Kiikun| - love you
#71 [00:30] <|Kiikun|> :P sorry im taken
#72 [00:31] <ailmanki> *platonic/*
#73 [00:32] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#73 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> Did find a neat online editor for skins though: http://minecraft.novaskin.me/
#74 [00:33] * GreyVulpine bookmarks.
#74 [00:33] * aetherian reads the whole book
#74 [00:36] <Seither> so, I'm wondering, is the monster spawner broken or glitched in 1.8? because looking at both nether and the normal map in MCedit is showing an insanely large number of entities, and the map was on normal difficulty. I had about 150 creepers in the spawn area alone
#75 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't be..
#76 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> Map corruption can account for an exorbitant amount of mobs spawning though
#77 [00:39] <Seither> well i deleted those as well, hopefully that fixes the issue for good. going to test it again now *crosses fingers*
#78 [00:42] <Seither> well, it's running a lot better, but now there is lag when opening a chest, and it's still giving me the warning... not sure what else i can do to possible fix it
#79 [00:43] <ailmanki> have you use minecraft-region-fixer and chunkster?
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#82 [00:43] <Seither> no because i have no idea what those are lol
#83 [00:44] <Seither> i didn't even know MCedit existed until coming here.
#84 [00:44] <ailmanki> These are 2 programs to fix problems in maps. Mostly used for SMP I guess. http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admin-chunkster.8186/ and https://github.com/Fenixin/Minecraft-Region-Fixer
#85 [00:44] <ailmanki> use with care, e.g. have a backup
#86 [00:47] <Seither> ok I'll give those a shot too, thanks.
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#88 [00:50] <nath3890> hello I came up with one more question, I've been playing on a minecraft server lately but typing in the address every single time is getting old, is there any way to get around that?
#89 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Classic or beta?
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#91 [00:50] <nath3890> beta
#92 [00:50] * VoxelHead kicked mrgippy from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Banned: You wasted a huge amount of our time with your typing your password incorrectly.)
#93 [00:51] <Thrae> nath3890: That's what the "Add Server" function is for in the new launcher.
#94 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Try using the new launcher
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#96 [00:51] <nath3890> o i thought that was literally for adding a new server
#97 [00:53] <nath3890> thanks
#98 [00:54] <TheNoodle> lol
#99 [00:54] <TheNoodle> People don't click buttons to see what they do enough.
#100 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> Ooo.. what's this do, what's that do?
#101 [00:55] <Thrae> Odd thing is, they figure out that they need to click "Direct Connect" but it never occurs to them to click the button directly next to it.
#102 [00:56] <ailmanki> the obvious is to only make one button for joining a server. And allow to remove afterwards.
#103 [00:57] <Thrae> Well, they could make "Direct Connect" auto-add the server as "Last Direct Connect Server".
#104 [00:57] <ailmanki> That would leave people not discovering the other button
#105 [00:57] <Thrae> Those people can't really be helped.
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#107 [00:58] <oldtopman> !check topcraftia.no-ip.org
#108 [00:58] <oldtopman> :<
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#111 [01:00] <RedAmber> Hello?
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#113 [01:00] <RedAmber> Can I receive some hel with my problem
#114 [01:01] <Thrae> Elaborate.
#115 [01:02] <TheNoodle> ;+ mindread We cannot read your mind, nor can we magically see what is on your screen. You're going to have to tell us what the problem is.
#116 [01:02] <WugBot> Done.
#117 [01:02] <RedAmber> My minecraft ESC key is not working
#118 [01:02] <RedAmber> I can get out of GUI menus
#119 [01:02] <RedAmber> mmkay then
#120 [01:02] <RedAmber> Well
#121 [01:03] <RedAmber> So you know how you can press the ESC key to go into the setting menu?
#122 [01:03] <TheNoodle> Yes....
#123 [01:03] <RedAmber> Well mines not working
#124 [01:03] <RedAmber> I cant get out of menus that I open up
#125 [01:03] <Thrae> RedAmber: Update LWJGL -- http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#126 [01:04] <Kenshkrix> Hey, so apparently Minecraft.net has forgotten that I exist
#127 [01:04] <Kenshkrix> Password recovery says my email isn't linked to an account
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#129 [01:04] <Thrae> Kenshkrix: What's your Minecraft account name?
#130 [01:04] <Kenshkrix> Kenshkrix_Raille
#131 [01:04] <TheNoodle> !paid kenshkrix_raille
#132 [01:05] <RedAmber> Thanks Thrae!
#133 [01:05] <Thrae> Kenshkrix: Seems it's still in the database. Maybe you used a different email address?
#134 [01:05] <Kenshkrix> tried all of the ones I've ever used
#135 [01:05] <Kenshkrix> none of them turned up
#136 [01:05] <Kenshkrix> can't login to the forums either
#137 [01:06] <Thrae> Contact support@mojang.com and explain the error you're getting, while your account is still showing up with "haspaid.jsp".
#138 [01:06] <Kenshkrix> ok, thanks
#139 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> Kenshkrix - Check your email
#140 [01:07] <Thrae> Oh yeah -- check the spam folder in your email
#141 [01:07] <Kenshkrix> just got a password reset notice
#142 [01:07] <Kenshkrix> Confused since the only response from the website has been error messages
#143 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Then your email is fine.
#144 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> I just requested a password reset using your username from the website
#145 [01:07] <Thrae> Hmm, website maintenance problems?
#146 [01:08] <brandon63b> ok so my issue is that when i go to multiplayer and try to log in to my friend server it say communication error or can't find server but i was just playing on the same server like 9 hours ago? any idea y it is doing that
#147 [01:08] <Thrae> brandon63b: Try a different server to see if it's you or your friend's server.
#148 [01:09] <brandon63b> k will try that Thrae thanks
#149 [01:10] <RedAmber> it didnt work Thrae
#150 [01:10] <RedAmber> I tryed
#151 [01:10] <Thrae> ??> RedAmber java/version
#152 [01:10] <VoxelHead> RedAmber: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#153 [01:10] <VoxelHead> RedAmber: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
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#155 [01:11] <RedAmber> Version 6 update 27....
#156 [01:11] <Thrae> RedAmber: Windows?
#157 [01:11] <RedAmber> yes
#158 [01:11] <Thrae> ??> RedAmber win/reinst/bat
#159 [01:11] <VoxelHead> RedAmber: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#160 [01:11] <VoxelHead> RedAmber: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat
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#162 [01:13] <RedAmber> Now im stuck at downloading packages :/
#163 [01:13] <Thrae> Just give it a few minutes.
#164 [01:13] <RedAmber> It did this to me before
#165 [01:14] <Thrae> Sometimes the website is slow. How'd you get past it before?
#166 [01:14] <RedAmber> Deleting all traces of Java and reinstall
#167 [01:15] <Thrae> Could have just been a coincidence, but you're welcome to try it again. That was what I was going to have you try next anyway.
#168 [01:15] <RedAmber> I also have another problem
#169 [01:16] <RedAmber> When I try to run the yogbox installer
#170 [01:16] <Thrae> ?? mods
#171 [01:16] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#172 [01:16] <RedAmber> it open the .jar in some wierd java anel
#173 [01:16] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#174 [01:16] <RedAmber> panel
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#176 [01:17] <Seither> ok, how exactly do I get Chunkster to run? I can't seem to figure that out
#177 [01:17] <RedAmber> Double tap w
#178 [01:17] <RedAmber> ?
#179 [01:18] <Thrae> Seither: There are instructions on Chunkster's thread. You need to call Java.
#180 [01:20] <Seither> java doesn't want to stay open, it closes immediately after opening
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#182 [01:20] <figaro> Can i have some help with running minecraft?
#183 [01:20] <Thrae> That's because Chunkster is a command-line utility. It doesn't have a GUI. You need to run it from the command line.
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#185 [01:21] <Ngloxo72> Hi
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#188 [01:23] <Ngloxo72> Troll
#189 [01:23] <Helpme> Hey can i have some help?
#190 [01:24] <Ngloxo72> What's you problem?
#191 [01:24] <Helpme> i keep getting a message while running minecraft
#192 [01:24] <Helpme> i tryed everything
#193 [01:24] <Ngloxo72> What message is it?
#194 [01:25] <Helpme> it says fatal error (4): connection reset Retreiving: lwjgl.jar 7% @ 24.73 Kb/sec
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#196 [01:26] <Ngloxo72> Operating system?
#197 [01:26] <Thrae> Helpme: Are you using Windows?
#198 [01:26] <Helpme> yes
#199 [01:26] <Ngloxo72> Right
#200 [01:26] <Helpme> windows 7
#201 [01:26] <Thrae> Helpme: Go ahead and uninstall all versions of Java from Programs and Features, then go to http://www.java.com/en/download/ and download Java 6 Update 27
#202 [01:27] <Ngloxo72> I can't really help you with windows as a use Linux
#203 [01:27] <Helpme> ok
#204 [01:27] <Ngloxo72> Try what Thrae said
#205 [01:28] <Helpme> ok ty i will hopefully be ok
#206 [01:28] <Helpme> thx
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#210 [01:31] <sprocket> why doesn't it work on 10.5.8?
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#212 [01:32] <Ngloxo72> Goto #minecrafttalk
#213 [01:32] <Thrae> sprocket: Old Macs, especially old Macbooks, don't support OpenGL 1.3, a 3D graphics technology released ~10 years ago. Apple chooses not to provide free updates, instead making you pay for 10.6.
#214 [01:33] <Thrae> Ngloxo72: We can answer questions like that.
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#216 [01:38] <Seither> C:\Users\Home\Desktop\Minecraft Server>java -jar Chunkster.jar world chunkster: region pointer repair utility v0.1 usage: java -jar Chunkster.jar <world directory> is what I'm getting when I do what the directions say, not sure what I'm doing wrong
#217 [01:39] <Thrae> Seither: Is your world folder called "world"?
#218 [01:39] <Seither> yes
#219 [01:40] <Thrae> So if you type in "dir world", does it spit out a bunch of files?
#220 [01:42] <Seither> spits out files/folders for data, DIM-1, level.dat, level.dat_old, players, region, session.lock
#221 [01:42] <Thrae> OK, well running "java -jar Chunkster.jar world" should work then. Maybe they haven't updated it for 1.8.x yet.
#222 [01:42] <Helpme> i downloaded java and after it installed it said downloaded file is corrupt
#223 [01:43] <Helpme> :|
#224 [01:43] <Thrae> Helpme: You mean the Java installer?
#225 [01:43] <Helpme> yeah
#226 [01:43] <Thrae> Helpme: Download from here -- http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#227 [01:43] <Thrae> If you have 64-bit Windows, download both
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#229 [01:45] <Helpme> what do you mean
#230 [01:45] <Helpme> i downloaded the 64 bit
#231 [01:45] <Thrae> Download BOTH
#232 [01:45] <Thrae> Download both "32-bit" and "64-bit"
#233 [01:45] <Helpme> why
#234 [01:45] <Helpme> ok
#235 [01:46] <Thrae> Because most browsers are 32-bit, so you'll be without Java for them
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#237 [01:47] <Helpme> its gonna take forever to download
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#239 [01:47] <Thrae> Sounds like your ISP is rather dodgy.
#240 [01:48] <Helpme> yes
#241 [01:48] <Thrae> That could also be why Minecraft isn't properly downloading.
#242 [01:48] <Helpme> ok
#243 [01:48] <Seither> AHA, got it to work. Apparently, the download on the mainpage is not the correct one, it's to an old version that is apparently not wokring
#244 [01:48] <Helpme> but it has downloaded before
#245 [01:49] <Thrae> Do you understand that dodgy ISPs may work sometimes but not always?
#246 [01:49] <Helpme> no not realy
#247 [01:49] <Thrae> Well, it's very much true. It sounds like you don't even have broadband.
#248 [01:50] <Thrae> It's possible you may just have to keep trying to re-download Minecraft until it works.
#249 [01:50] <Thrae> Your error is atypical.
#250 [01:50] <Seither> Helpme do you know who your ISP provider is?
#251 [01:51] <Thrae> And normally no one has trouble downloading Java.
#252 [01:51] <Helpme> it says 7 hrs left
#253 [01:51] <Helpme> xD
#254 [01:51] <Thrae> 7 hours for 16MB?!?!
#255 [01:51] <Seither> O.o are you getting like 1kb/s
#256 [01:51] <Helpme> yeash
#257 [01:51] <Havvy> Thrae: Installing it on the other hand...
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#259 [01:52] <Thrae> Helpme: Your ISP is seriously messed up -- you're only getting 5.2Kbit/s!
#260 [01:53] <Thrae> Helpme: Even an ancient V90 modem gets ~56Kbit/s
#261 [01:53] <Helpme> i should probably get new internet
#262 [01:53] <Seither> Helpme: who is your internet provider?
#263 [01:53] <Thrae> Maybe you hit some sort of cap?
#264 [01:53] <Helpme> optus
#265 [01:53] <Thrae> Havvy: Eh, usually no problem. It's just people with corrupt installations for one reason or another.
#266 [01:53] <Helpme> er..
#267 [01:54] <Thrae> Some ISPs have a GB/month cap.
#268 [01:54] <Helpme> yeah
#269 [01:54] <Seither> from what i see on their website, they have a cap
#270 [01:54] <Havvy> Thrae: Well, I'm getting a "bash: java: command not found" message. :/
#271 [01:54] <Thrae> Helpme: Contact your ISP and see what's up
#272 [01:55] <TheNoodle> Helpme, where do you live?
#273 [01:55] <Helpme> Ol
#274 [01:55] <Thrae> Havvy: Well, Linux is a little trickier. What's your distro?
#275 [01:55] <Helpme> *ok
#276 [01:55] <Havvy> Chakra
#277 [01:55] <Havvy> Based on Arch
#278 [01:55] <Havvy> I have the path variable set correctly in .bashrc
#279 [01:55] <Thrae> Havvy: Which version of Java do you have installed? Sun Java or OpenJDK?
#280 [01:56] <Seither> yea, Helpme, you should definitely call them. If you aren't being throttled for going over your cap, you've got something screwing up your speeds, and more than likely it's on their end.
#281 [01:56] <Havvy> Isn't it called Oracle Java 6 now?
#282 [01:56] <Helpme> its mobile bb
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#284 [01:56] <Thrae> Havvy: Yeah, some repos still have it as "Sun"
#285 [01:57] <Seither> Helpme, how is service where you are? How many bars do you usually get on a cell phone?
#286 [01:58] <Thrae> Havvy: I can't even find a JRE in Chakra's packages. Did you download it from Oracle Sun's website?
#287 [01:58] <Havvy> http://chakra-project.org/wiki/index.php/Java
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#289 [01:58] <Thrae> Havvy: Hmm there's supposedly a package called "java-runtime" but the website isn't showing it.
#290 [01:58] <Havvy> Oh, yay. It's working. Silly source command...
#291 [01:59] <Thrae> Ah, OK. And you're using "jre", right?
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#293 [02:01] <Havvy> JDK
#294 [02:01] <Thrae> OK, as long as it's not OpenJDK
#295 [02:01] <Havvy> Next up...install Minecraft
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#298 [02:04] <guest-0-48754> Excuse me, I seem to be having trouble with my launcher
#299 [02:05] <Thrae> ;+ 10.5.8 OpenGL is one of the two main graphics libraries for advanced 3D. OS X version 10.5.8, especially on old Macbooks, does not contain support for OpenGL 1.3, where the latest version of OpenGL is 4.x. This can be solved by updating the graphic chipset drivers, but unfortunately Apple only provides this in an update to 10.6. You can check your driver's support for OpenGL here -- http://www.realtech-vr.com/glvie
#300 [02:05] <WugBot> Done.
#301 [02:05] <Thrae> w/download.html
#302 [02:05] <Thrae> Whoops
#303 [02:05] <Thrae> ;+ 10.5.8 OpenGL is one of the two main graphics libraries for advanced 3D. OS X version 10.5.8, especially on old Macbooks, does not contain support for OpenGL 1.3, where the latest version of OpenGL is 4.x. This can be solved by updating the graphic chipset drivers, but unfortunately Apple only provides this in an update to 10.6 or later.
#304 [02:05] <WugBot> That factoid already exists.
#305 [02:07] <Thrae> guest-0-48754: What's the problem?
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#309 [02:08] <raisin> Hey guys
#310 [02:08] <raisin> is anyone else having trouble
#311 [02:08] <raisin> logging in?
#312 [02:08] <raisin> Everytime I try to login I just get login failed
#313 [02:08] <guest-0-48754> When I log in, it displays the download screen, flashes black and then the window closes
#314 [02:08] <raisin> weird....
#315 [02:08] <ZeHaxor> nope i can login
#316 [02:09] <raisin> I cant login and I still havent seen 1.8
#317 [02:09] <raisin> :(
#318 [02:09] <ZeHaxor> guest change your name using /nick
#319 [02:09] <guest-0-48754> I've tried re-downloading the .exe
#320 [02:09] <guest-0-48754> ok
#321 [02:09] <Thrae> raisin: Do you get the news in the launcher?
#322 [02:09] <raisin> New launcher?
#323 [02:09] <raisin> its the same launcher
#324 [02:09] <raisin> its always been
#325 [02:09] <raisin> for me
#326 [02:09] <Thrae> !client
#327 [02:10] <Thrae> raisin: The old launcher doesn't work anymore. Download the latest one.
#328 [02:10] <raisin> Oic
#329 [02:10] <ZeHaxor> @freder try playing on minecraft.net
#330 [02:10] <freder> ok
#331 [02:11] <freder> The screen just turns black in the browser as well
#332 [02:12] <raisin> plugin issue?
#333 [02:12] <ZeHaxor> which version of java do you have?
#334 [02:12] <raisin> is what im thinking
#335 [02:12] <freder> perhaps
#336 [02:12] <ZeHaxor> what plugins
#337 [02:12] <freder> I should have the latest version
#338 [02:12] <ZeHaxor> !java
#339 [02:13] <ZeHaxor> !j
#340 [02:13] <ZeHaxor> crap
#341 [02:13] <ZeHaxor> ??> zehaxor index
#342 [02:13] <VoxelHead> zehaxor: (index) See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#343 [02:13] <Thrae> ?? java/version
#344 [02:13] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#345 [02:13] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#346 [02:13] <ZeHaxor> yeah that ^^
#347 [02:13] <ZeHaxor> XD
#348 [02:14] <freder> ah, it is outdated
#349 [02:14] <Seither> ugh now i can't seem to figure out how to get Fenixin region-fixer to work. keeps giving me a "world path does not exist" error in command
#350 [02:14] <ZeHaxor> wow i dont have the newest java XD
#351 [02:14] <raisin> how do u fly in creative mode?
#352 [02:14] <ZeHaxor> well i have no idea what that is so i cant help
#353 [02:15] <ZeHaxor> double jump
#354 [02:15] <raisin> i just wanna see a town
#355 [02:15] <raisin> then go to bed
#356 [02:15] <raisin> lol
#357 [02:15] <Seither> ZeHaxor this thing https://github.com/Fenixin/Minecraft-Region-Fixer
#358 [02:16] <ZeHaxor> put your world in your C:/ drive
#359 [02:16] <ZeHaxor> :(
#360 [02:16] <ZeHaxor> C : /
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#362 [02:17] <Thrae> Windows uses back-slash, not forward.
#363 [02:17] <Seither> it is. atm its exact path is C:\Users\Home\Desktop\Minecraft Server\world
#364 [02:17] <ZeHaxor> you cant have spaces in console
#365 [02:17] <Seither> but no combination of those does anything
#366 [02:17] <Thrae> Seither: Put that path in quotes -- "C:\Users\Home\Desktop\Minecraft Server\world"
#367 [02:18] <Seither> I've tried with the region ixer in its own folder, the server older, the world folder
#368 [02:18] <ZeHaxor> lol i was just typing that
#369 [02:18] <Thrae> Seither: Need to do that with all paths with spaces in it.
#370 [02:18] <Seither> that i havent tried
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#373 [02:18] <Seither> and same error
#374 [02:19] <Seither> wait no, now it says no world path specified
#375 [02:19] <ZeHaxor> try putting it somewhere where the path has no spaces
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#377 [02:20] <ZeHaxor> otherwise i have no idea
#378 [02:20] <Thrae> Sounds like the command needs more than 1 parameter.
#379 [02:20] <freder> ok, I updated java and the launcher is working again, thanks
#380 [02:21] <Seither> i'm trying to use the fix chunks and/or backups command with it, it just hates me
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#382 [02:22] <ZeHaxor> what is wrong with your chunks? chunk errorsin console?
#383 [02:22] <ZeHaxor> errors in
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#385 [02:23] <ZeHaxor> ...
#386 [02:24] <mib_2ll1hi> Hi, just wondering whether it's still the case that the latest update of Minecraft won't run on Mac version 10.5.8. Is there any way around this?
#387 [02:24] <Seither> Corrupted multiplayer world. happened shortly after we entered the nether. Mc editor let me get rid of the msot recent addition, which helped, chunkster found and supposedly fixed a bunch of bad chunks, which got it almost perfect
#388 [02:24] <Thrae> ; 10.5.8
#389 [02:24] <Thrae> ;10.5.8
#390 [02:25] <Thrae> mib_2ll1hi: OpenGL is one of the two main graphics libraries for advanced 3D. OS X version 10.5.8, especially on old Macbooks, does not contain support for OpenGL 1.3, where the latest version of OpenGL is 4.x. This can be solved by updating the graphic chipset drivers, but unfortunately Apple only provides this in an update to 10.6 or later.
#391 [02:25] <Thrae> mib_2ll1hi: We don't know if Mojang will address this, as they'd have to remove features and use 3D graphics technology from over 10 years ago to get around it.
#392 [02:26] <Seither> the error i was getting in the sever was that stupid warning about not being able to keep up
#393 [02:26] <ZeHaxor> hmm
#394 [02:26] <Seither> it started literally when we got hit by performance issues. so i know it was tied to that
#395 [02:26] <mib_2ll1hi> Great, thanks for that.
#396 [02:26] <Thrae> Seither: That's the only warning you're getting? That doesn't necessarily have anything to do with chunks.
#397 [02:26] <ZeHaxor> well it appears that thrae knows more about it than me so....
#398 [02:27] <Thrae> Seither: That can usually be fixed by giving the server more RAM.
#399 [02:27] <Seither> at the moment, the only issue is it takes a while for the game to recognize things were dropped and pick them up, and for chests to open
#400 [02:27] <Seither> ok, how do I do that
#401 [02:27] <Thrae> Seither: Do you use a batch file?
#402 [02:28] <Thrae> And how much is your total RAM?
#403 [02:28] <ZeHaxor> java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#404 [02:29] <ZeHaxor> that will give it 1gb
#405 [02:29] <ZeHaxor> if you are using a .bat
#406 [02:29] <Seither> batch file? how do i check that. and total atm is 3Gb, but it's barely used when playing, as all i run is MC and the server
#407 [02:30] <ZeHaxor> how do you run it
#408 [02:30] <ZeHaxor> by opening a .jar file?
#409 [02:30] <Seither> the minecraft server exe
#410 [02:30] <ZeHaxor> ok
#411 [02:30] <ZeHaxor> !server
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#413 [02:30] <ZeHaxor> download the linux and macosx one
#414 [02:31] <Seither> even though I'm running windows 7? (just making sure)
#415 [02:31] <ZeHaxor> http://mibpaste.com/LsIGzH
#416 [02:31] <ZeHaxor> yes
#417 [02:31] <Seither> ok
#418 [02:31] <ZeHaxor> and put that into a textfile
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#420 [02:32] <sirnicholas45> my account wont log onto the minecraft server ever since the update to 1.8
#421 [02:32] <ZeHaxor> and save it as Run.bat
#422 [02:32] <Thrae> Seither: Or you can just download http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraftServer.bat and place it in the same directory as minecraft_server.exe.
#423 [02:32] <ZeHaxor> oh lol
#424 [02:32] <Thrae> sirnicholas45: Grab the newest launcher.
#425 [02:32] <Thrae> !client
#426 [02:33] <Seither> ok, now, to launch it with more memory, I need to open it by using the bat correct?
#427 [02:33] <Thrae> Yes
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#429 [02:34] <Seither> ok
#430 [02:34] <Seither> now i got this in the command window that came up
#431 [02:35] <Seither> C:\Users\Home\Desktop\MinecraftServer>java -Xmx1536M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_se rver.exe 2>errorlog.txt 161 recipes 17 achievements Chunk file at -5,6 is in the wrong location; relocating. (Expected -5, 6, got -1 , 4) Chunk file at 1,8 is in the wrong location; relocating. (Expected 1, 8, got 1, 1 0)
#432 [02:35] <Minerer> hi. can't pick up minecarts anymore, the hand moves once and then nothing happens. any idea, what might be the problem? already deleted the .minecraft folder, downloaded and reinstalled the game.
#433 [02:35] <Thrae> Seither: Looks like if you didn't have chunk errors before, you do NOW.
#434 [02:36] <Thrae> Seither: If you don't have backups and Chunkster doesn't fix it then you're up a creek without a paddle. The batch file should fix the lag issues you were having.
#435 [02:37] <Seither> well, i'm loggingin now, so we'll see what happens
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#437 [02:40] <Seither> the lag issue still exists....
#438 [02:40] <Seither> or rather, what "seems" like lag
#439 [02:40] <Seither> takes chest about half a second to open
#440 [02:41] <Thrae> And are you getting the "Server can't keep up!" warnings?
#441 [02:41] <Seither> and items on the ground take a while to register and get picked up
#442 [02:41] <Seither> yes
#443 [02:41] <Thrae> Make a backup of your current world and make a new one, then try the same tests on the new world.
#444 [02:42] <Minerer> hell, i can't tell, if anything written recently was adressed to me or not. :-S
#445 [02:43] <Thrae> Minerer: I haven't played with Minecarts so I can't address your problem.
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#447 [02:43] <Seither> so besides just copying the world folder and renaming it backup, is there any other way of making a backup?
#448 [02:43] <Seither> just curious
#449 [02:44] <Minerer> thrae: what a pity. thanks for response. :>
#450 [02:44] <Thrae> That's how most people make backups. Usually they ZIP 'em up.
#451 [02:44] <Minerer> i'
#452 [02:44] <Seither> ah ok
#453 [02:45] <Minerer> i've got the problem on all worlds i tried it out: multipleayer as well as single player. survival as well as creative.
#454 [02:45] <Thrae> You can use Task Manager to check if Minecraft is running, then make a backup, like every 15 minutes.
#455 [02:45] <Thrae> I mean Task Scheduler, not Task Manager.
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#457 [02:46] <Ngloxo72> hey
#458 [02:47] <Minerer> Ngloxo72: ho! :->
#459 [02:47] <Seither> Minerer have you tried deleting minecraft and redownloading it? sounds like a corrupted data file somewhere to me, but i'm not too well versed in these things
#460 [02:47] <Seither> and hmm, i'll have to do that task scheduler thing
#461 [02:48] <Seither> ok, new world does not have the issue
#462 [02:48] <Thrae> Yeah sounds like a corrupt world.
#463 [02:48] <Seither> however, the blocks in the spawn area for a good range instantly respawn without dropping anything, though it's done that before
#464 [02:49] <Thrae> That's part of Spawn Protection.
#465 [02:49] <Seither> ah ok, always wondered about that
#466 [02:50] <Seither> is there any way to replicate the other world, or at least parts of it in a new one?
#467 [02:50] <Thrae> Maybe using MCEdit
#468 [02:50] <Thrae> ?? lostworld
#469 [02:50] <VoxelHead> lostworld: If a power failure or other event has caused your world to no longer appear in the list, try loading your world in a map editor such as MCEdit, and resaving it. That may correct the corruption and allow you to resume use of your saved world.
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#471 [02:51] <Seither> appear in the list? what list?
#472 [02:51] <Thrae> That's if the world is completely lost
#473 [02:51] <Thrae> Same procedure -- load it in MCEdit and Save
#474 [02:51] <Red> my minecraft not working
#475 [02:52] <Red> menu screen comes up fine
#476 [02:52] <Seither> ah. well, I've definitely loaded the world in MCedit and saved it a ew times already
#477 [02:52] <Thrae> Yeah, well maybe MCEdit has some feature which can help...dunno.
#478 [02:52] <Red> then i go to single player or online and i get a black screen
#479 [02:53] <Seither> I'll look
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#481 [02:53] <Seither> Red check your java, you may need to update
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#483 [02:53] <Red> ok kool ill have a look
#484 [02:53] <Seither> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#485 [02:53] <Seither> click that, hit verify, it'll tell you if you have the latest version
#486 [02:54] <Red> just letting you know im on a mac too
#487 [02:56] <Seither> OS X version 10.5.8?
#488 [02:59] <Red> im updating my java now, thankyou for your help =D
#489 [03:01] * guest-0-15674 [guest-0-15674@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#490 [03:01] <guest-0-15674> hi
#491 [03:01] <guest-0-15674> i have a question
#492 [03:01] <guest-0-15674> 2 weeks ago I bought a gift key
#493 [03:01] <guest-0-15674> when when I log in now, I'm not premium but why ?!
#494 [03:02] <guest-0-15674> I have verified my key
#495 [03:02] <guest-0-15674> A week ago I was online
#496 [03:02] <guest-0-15674> but now it no longer works
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#499 [03:03] <Ngloxo72> hey
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#501 [03:04] <Seither> no problem Red
#502 [03:05] <Ngloxo72> is paper alive?
#503 [03:05] <Seither> guest, we can't really help with with account issues, however, it sounds like you haven't actually ENTERED the gift key
#504 [03:05] <Seither> Ngloxo72 what do you mean?
#505 [03:06] <Ngloxo72> nm
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#509 [03:07] * Ngloxo72 killed paper
#509 [03:07] <Seither> Guest only things i can think of, is to check your java, and to try downloading the minecraft exe again
#510 [03:09] <Wug> -.- wugbot needs a kick in the face
#511 [03:09] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :
ACTION kicks Wug in the face

#512 [03:09] <Wug> but I've already bounced it several times today
#513 [03:09] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Oops, missed
#514 [03:09] <Wug> it seems to be randomly dropping factoids sometimes for fun or something
#515 [03:09] <Wug> I'm not entirely sure why
#516 [03:09] <guest-0-15674> i have entered the key one week ago i was online in minecraft but yesterday there written in the minecraft exe im not premium?!
#517 [03:10] <Wug> or rather, I'm entirely not sure why
#518 [03:10] <Wug> guest-0-15674: you did use the gift code on your account, right?
#519 [03:11] <Wug> I really need to go to bed -.-
#520 [03:12] <guest-0-15674> yes
#521 [03:14] <guest-0-15674> i dont know why :-(
#522 [03:17] <guest-0-15674> http://s1.directupload.net/images/110919/ypqziga2.jpg
#523 [03:18] <guest-0-15674> i hvae used the gift key in my minecraft account
#524 [03:18] <Seither> have you updated your launcher since 1.8 was released?
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#526 [03:19] <guest-0-15674> yes
#527 [03:19] <guest-0-15674> from the mincraft website
#528 [03:20] <guest-0-15674> and i have delete the folder C:\Users\....\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft
#529 [03:21] <guest-0-15674> I think my beta key has been removed from mincaft.net
#530 [03:22] <Seither> where did you buy/get the key rom?
#531 [03:22] <Seither> *from
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#533 [03:22] <guest-0-15674> ebay
#534 [03:22] <guest-0-15674> But he has worked for a few days ago
#535 [03:24] <TheNoodle> I have a feeling you may have been scammed guest-0-15674.
#536 [03:24] <guest-0-15674> Since last night he is gone
#537 [03:24] <TheNoodle> What username did you use?
#538 [03:24] <guest-0-15674> baumwolle11
#539 [03:24] <TheNoodle> !paid baumwolle11
#540 [03:24] <guest-0-15674> bit for a few days i was online?!?!
#541 [03:24] <Seither> It sounds like you might have gotten an Indie bundle 3 key
#542 [03:24] <Seither> iirc, those expired a few days ago
#543 [03:25] <Thrae> Someone didn't buy directly from Mojang?
#544 [03:25] <TheNoodle> mmhm
#545 [03:25] <Thrae> Ah yes I see here -- 2 weeks of Minecraft
#546 [03:25] <guest-0-15674> ?!
#547 [03:27] <guest-0-15674> http://www.ebay.de/itm/MINECRAFT-Beta-Gift-Code-Premium-Mitglied-Alpha-Key-/380363062899?pt=de_entertainment_games&hash=item588f67be73
#548 [03:27] <guest-0-15674> there i have buy my key
#549 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Then you got scammed
#550 [03:27] <Thrae> guest-0-15674: The Humble Bumble 2-week offer also comes as a Gift Code, except this Gift Code only gives you Premium for 2 weeks.
#551 [03:27] <Thrae> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/111964-Humble-Indie-Bundle-3-Now-With-Minecraft
#552 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Guy most likely bought the gift code, gave it to you, then did a chargeback on his card, getting your money, and his money back from purchasing the code
#553 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> It's a very common scam
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#555 [03:28] <Thrae> That's possible too
#556 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Humble indie bundle expired back in august, didn't it?
#557 [03:28] <Thrae> August 14th, yeah
#558 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> I could swear we already dealt with those questions
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#561 [03:29] <Thrae> Also I think Mojang processes refunds too if it's within 30 days
#562 [03:30] <guest-0-15674> but i have buy 5 keys for me and my fraind and my frainds was online now -.-
#563 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> Needless to say, the only recommended, and legal way of purchasing minecraft, is from the official minecraft.net website
#564 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> Any other sites, are not recommended.
#565 [03:30] <guest-0-15674> *friends
#566 [03:30] <Thrae> guest-0-15674: Ebay comes with Buyer Protection -- time to contact them. Remember, it's an auction site.
#567 [03:31] <Thrae> I think everyone gets scammed a bit at least once on eBay.
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#569 [03:34] <guest-0-15674> mmmm
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#571 [03:35] <Thrae> guest-0-15674: "If it's too good to be true, it probably isn't (true)." What did you expect with a price that's lower than the official price, when it's easily purchasable online?
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#573 [03:37] <guest-0-15674> but five of my friends are online with this key
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#576 [03:37] <Seither> with the same key?
#577 [03:38] <Seither> as in exactly the same?
#578 [03:38] <guest-0-15674> Yes
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#580 [03:38] <weirdo> good morning
#581 [03:38] <guest-0-15674> the same keys
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#583 [03:39] <guest-0-15674> only i can switch ingame
#584 [03:39] <Seither> I feel like that might be your problem there then.
#585 [03:39] <weirdo> can someone pls help me with this error? java.util.zip.ZipException: error in opening zip file at java.util.zip.ZipFile.open(Native Method) at java.util.zip.ZipFile.<init>(ZipFile.java:114) at java.util.jar.JarFile.<init>(JarFile.java:135)
#586 [03:39] <Seither> and ugh, apparently, seed generation does NOT generate buildings that were built:(
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#588 [03:40] <r0ckf0x> help
#589 [03:40] <r0ckf0x> me
#590 [03:40] <r0ckf0x> anyone?
#591 [03:40] <guest-0-15674> but what i can do i have remove the monecraft exe and reinstall java and more
#592 [03:41] <r0ckf0x> guest
#593 [03:41] <r0ckf0x> what problem are you having?
#594 [03:41] <Thrae> guest-0-15674: Send an email to support@mojang.com and hope they'll honour your purchase.
#595 [03:42] <guest-0-15674> ok
#596 [03:42] <Seither> r0ckfl0x what is your problem
#597 [03:42] <r0ckf0x> My javaw.exe is running out of allocated memory
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#599 [03:42] <r0ckf0x> it crashes at 1gb
#600 [03:42] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: What's your total RAM?
#601 [03:42] <schnozzle> 2
#602 [03:42] <r0ckf0x> on my comp or allowed to java
#603 [03:42] <r0ckf0x> ?
#604 [03:42] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Both.
#605 [03:42] <Thrae> weirdo: Reinstall Minecraft. Are you using Windows?
#606 [03:43] <r0ckf0x> on my system 4gb (3.5 available)
#607 [03:43] <r0ckf0x> and allocated to java default
#608 [03:43] <r0ckf0x> i have reinstalled java and minecraft
#609 [03:43] <r0ckf0x> win7
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#611 [03:43] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Try this -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/LaunchMinecraft.bat , place it in the same directory as Minecraft.exe and run the batch file.
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#613 [03:44] <Ngloxo72> hey
#614 [03:44] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Try this -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft.bat , place it in the same directory as Minecraft.exe and run the batch file.
#615 [03:44] <r0ckf0x> i get a not found error on that url
#616 [03:44] <weirdo> Can someone pls help me with my server?
#617 [03:44] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: First one was bad. Use the 2nd one.
#618 [03:45] <r0ckf0x> what 2nd one
#619 [03:45] <Thrae> weirdo: Are you using Windows?
#620 [03:45] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Try this -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft.bat , place it in the same directory as Minecraft.exe and run the batch file.
#621 [03:45] <weirdo> this is an external server
#622 [03:45] <weirdo> i don't know on what system the server runs at
#623 [03:45] <Thrae> weirdo: Well best then I can tell you to do is re-download the server JAR.
#624 [03:45] <Thrae> !server
#625 [03:45] <Ngloxo72> troll
#626 [03:45] <Ngloxo72> derp
#627 [03:46] <weirdo> for this error of a pluginjava.util.zip.ZipException: error in opening zip file at java.util.zip.ZipFile.open(Native Method) at java.util.zip.ZipFile.<init>(ZipFile.java:114)
#628 [03:46] <weirdo> ?
#629 [03:46] <weirdo> the server runs well
#630 [03:46] <Ngloxo72> derp
#631 [03:46] <r0ckf0x> uh thrae
#632 [03:46] <Thrae> weirdo: Is this Bukkit?
#633 [03:46] <r0ckf0x> do i run the bat then minecraft
#634 [03:46] <weirdo> Yes Thae
#635 [03:46] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: The batch file will launch Minecraft.
#636 [03:46] <r0ckf0x> its not
#637 [03:46] <weirdo> latest bukkit
#638 [03:46] <Thrae> weirdo: Sounds like some Bukkit problem then -- /join #bukkit
#639 [03:47] <Thrae> weirdo: Those are development builds for 1.8 and 1.8.1 and are not stable yet.
#640 [03:47] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: You need to place it in the same folder as Minecraft.exe. Did you do this?
#641 [03:47] <r0ckf0x> yes
#642 [03:47] <weirdo> ok thx
#643 [03:47] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Open up errorlog.txt. Is there anything in there?
#644 [03:48] <r0ckf0x> i have no file by that name, however i do have some hs_err_pid files
#645 [03:48] <Ngloxo72> wtf y am I banned from #mcchatter
#646 [03:48] <Ngloxo72> derp
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#648 [03:48] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Delete all your hs_err_pid files and try running the batch file again. Does another one appear?
#649 [03:49] <mib_ttt0lh> yo
#650 [03:49] <Ngloxo72> hey
#651 [03:49] <r0ckf0x> no
#652 [03:49] <r0ckf0x> could the error file be appearing in another directory?
#653 [03:49] <Ngloxo72> gtg
#654 [03:49] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: No. It'll appear in the same folder as LaunchMinecraft.bat.
#655 [03:49] <r0ckf0x> strange
#656 [03:50] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: What folder do you have them in?
#657 [03:50] <r0ckf0x> should i redownload the minecraft exe?
#658 [03:50] <r0ckf0x> uhhh
#659 [03:50] <Thrae> Wouldn't hurt.
#660 [03:50] <r0ckf0x> C:\Program Files\Minecraft
#661 [03:50] <mib_ttt0lh> i need help please
#662 [03:50] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: OK, and you're running Windows Vista/7?
#663 [03:50] <r0ckf0x> yes
#664 [03:51] <r0ckf0x> 7
#665 [03:51] <r0ckf0x> getting the exe
#666 [03:51] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: You probably have UAC turned on and Minecraft can't create files in that directory. Open up Computer, then Local Disk (C:), then Program Files, then right-click on the Minecraft folder and go to Properties.
#667 [03:51] <mib_ttt0lh> my minecraft goes past the login screen, however just a black screen from there
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#669 [03:52] <Seither> update your java
#670 [03:52] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Click on the Security tab on the window that appears. Click on 'Edit'. Click on 'Add...'. Enter in "Users" (without quotes!), then click OK.
#671 [03:53] <Seither> mib_ttt0lh go here http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#672 [03:53] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Then click on the box next to "Modify" under the column heading "Allow". Then click Apply, then OK. Then click OK again.
#673 [03:54] <mib_ttt0lh> tried the updating of java
#674 [03:54] <r0ckf0x> still nothing
#675 [03:54] <r0ckf0x> minecraft is run as an administrator btw
#676 [03:54] <r0ckf0x> um
#677 [03:54] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Follow those instructions.
#678 [03:55] <r0ckf0x> still nothing.
#679 [03:55] <r0ckf0x> also
#680 [03:55] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: No files like hs_err_pid or errorlog.txt were created after you changed the folder's permissions?
#681 [03:56] <r0ckf0x> no
#682 [03:56] <Thrae> (After you changed the permissions and run the batch file again)
#683 [03:56] <mib_ttt0lh> ok i did the veriafy
#684 [03:56] <r0ckf0x> wait
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#686 [03:56] <r0ckf0x> got one
#687 [03:56] <mib_ttt0lh> and its all good
#688 [03:56] <r0ckf0x> I now have an errorlog.txt
#689 [03:56] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: OK. Copy its contents to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#690 [03:57] <Thrae> mib_ttt0lh: Are you using Windows?
#691 [03:57] <mib_ttt0lh> yes
#692 [03:57] <mib_ttt0lh> 7
#693 [03:57] <Thrae> ??> mib_ttt0lh win/dxdiag
#694 [03:57] <VoxelHead> mib_ttt0lh: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#695 [03:57] <VoxelHead> mib_ttt0lh: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#696 [03:58] <mib_ttt0lh> whats the win+R keys?
#697 [03:58] <Thrae> ?? win/key
#698 [03:58] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#699 [03:59] <r0ckf0x> http://pastebin.com/fJeETGrq
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#701 [03:59] <r0ckf0x> it just says could not create java virtual machine
#702 [03:59] <r0ckf0x> but i can if i run minecraft
#703 [03:59] <Ngloxo72> hey
#704 [03:59] <Thrae> Hmmm.
#705 [03:59] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: You may have a problem with Java. One sec.
#706 [03:59] <Ngloxo72> hey
#707 [03:59] <r0ckf0x> well i usually dont get that error
#708 [04:00] <r0ckf0x> minecraft runs fine usually
#709 [04:00] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: If you're getting an error from the batch file you have a problem. Period.
#710 [04:00] <r0ckf0x> ah
#711 [04:00] <Ngloxo72> is 1.8 laggy for u?
#712 [04:00] <Thrae> Ngloxo72: Not for me.
#713 [04:00] <Seither> not usually no
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#715 [04:01] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Try this batch file -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft1G.bat
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#718 [04:02] <r0ckf0x> ok do i log in normally?
#719 [04:03] <mib_ttt0lh> ok, and whats the IRC channel?
#720 [04:03] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Sounds like even though you have 3G total of RAM, you don't have 2G free to allocate to Minecraft. Yes, login and play and see if you get lag.
#721 [04:03] <r0ckf0x> ok
#722 [04:03] <Thrae> mib_ttt0lh: What we're talking on right now.
#723 [04:03] <mib_ttt0lh> http://pastebin.com/XyG6eXRp
#724 [04:04] <MatthewsTech> Hi Everyone, I accidentally deleted my resources bin. Any help is appreciated.
#725 [04:04] <r0ckf0x> ok so heres the problem. the game crashes after a certain amount of time. should i just play until it does?
#726 [04:04] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: Just log in again and it'll be re-downloaded.
#727 [04:04] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Yes. Then give us the crash report as a www.pastebin.com link.
#728 [04:04] <r0ckf0x> ok it may take a while
#729 [04:05] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Hopefully it won't crash now that you allocated 1GB.
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#731 [04:05] <guest-0-61502> anyone here?
#732 [04:05] <Thrae> mib_ttt0lh: Hmm, the Intel 965 is notorious for having problems. It's not really a "gaming" graphics chipset. Did you try the browser version?
#733 [04:05] <r0ckf0x> thats the thing, java.exe keeps increasing its memory allocation until it exceeds 1gb and crashes
#734 [04:05] <Seither> guest-0-61502 plenty of people. whats up?
#735 [04:05] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: With that batch file it won't exceed 1GB.
#736 [04:05] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: Doesn't work. I've also tried doing the options > force update.
#737 [04:06] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: Are you on Windows?
#738 [04:06] <r0ckf0x> ok i will give you the report if it crashes
#739 [04:06] <mib_ttt0lh> ill try
#740 [04:06] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: I am not.
#741 [04:06] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: Mac? Linux? Other?
#742 [04:06] <guest-0-61502> I've got a question whether there is a possibility to get some discount, if I'd like to resell gift codes, e.g. if I'd buy 1000 at one time?
#743 [04:06] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: Mac.
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#745 [04:07] <r0ckf0x> Also thrae, when i paste the text should i leave out my password hash?
#746 [04:07] <Thrae> guest-0-61502: You'd have to make such an arrangement with Mojang personally. Are you the person who came in here before who bought off of eBay?
#747 [04:07] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: There's no need for passwords.
#748 [04:07] <mib_ttt0lh> same problem with the inbrowser
#749 [04:07] <Thrae> ??> MatthewsTech mac/reinst
#750 [04:07] <VoxelHead> MatthewsTech: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#751 [04:07] <VoxelHead> MatthewsTech: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#752 [04:07] <mib_ttt0lh> just a black screem
#753 [04:07] <mib_ttt0lh> screen*
#754 [04:07] <r0ckf0x> i mean its in the log should i leave it OUT of the paste
#755 [04:08] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Yes....but it shouldn't be.
#756 [04:08] <guest-0-61502> no, I haven't bought any gift codes yet, since I am not planning to start playing minecraft, I'd like to just to resell it
#757 [04:08] <Thrae> guest-0-61502: Contact payment@mojang.com .
#758 [04:08] <guest-0-61502> ok, thanks
#759 [04:08] <r0ckf0x> java.exe is now using over 1gb of memory
#760 [04:08] <MatthewsTech> VoxelHead: Thanks. Trying it now. What is reinst?
#761 [04:10] <mib_ttt0lh> so what's that mean then
#762 [04:10] <Thrae> mib_ttt0lh: Download and install this update to your graphics driver -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18228/a08/win7_64_1512754.exe
#763 [04:10] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: It's short for "reinstall".
#764 [04:10] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: It might use a bit over 1GB. Just see if it crashes.
#765 [04:11] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: Ohhh... Thanks.
#766 [04:11] <r0ckf0x> is there a way to speed up this process like loading more chunks more rapidly or something?
#767 [04:11] <Thrae> Depends on what's causing the crash.
#768 [04:12] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: How about this -- if it does crash, uninstall all versions of Java from Programs and Features and then install Java 6 Update 27 from http://www.java.com/en/download/
#769 [04:13] <mib_ttt0lh> ok so should i restart my comp now
#770 [04:13] <Thrae> mib_ttt0lh: Yep.
#771 [04:13] <mib_ttt0lh> kk
#772 [04:13] <mib_ttt0lh> brb
#773 [04:13] <r0ckf0x> i am running that version of java
#774 [04:13] <r0ckf0x> just installed it an hour ago
#775 [04:13] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: It's just something to try. And you may still have other versions on there, or it may not have installed properly.
#776 [04:13] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: Still didn't work.
#777 [04:14] <Thrae> ??> MatthewsTech mac/permissions/lion
#778 [04:14] <Thrae> ??< index
#779 [04:14] <MatthewsTech> The only thing in the resources folder is newsound > ambient > cave > (all cave sounds)
#780 [04:15] <Thrae> ??> MatthewsTech mac/.minecraft/lion
#781 [04:15] <VoxelHead> MatthewsTech: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#782 [04:15] <Seither> Thrae, is it possible to give Minecrat itself more memory, to avoid the OOM glitch from happening as often?
#783 [04:15] <Thrae> Seither: Yes -- run a batch file which limits the memory.
#784 [04:15] <Thrae> ??> MatthewsTech mac/permissions
#785 [04:15] <VoxelHead> MatthewsTech: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#786 [04:15] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: I'm running Snow leopard.
#787 [04:15] <VoxelHead> MatthewsTech: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#788 [04:16] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: Try both anyway.
#789 [04:16] <Seither> How do I make a batchfile for minecraft itself?
#790 [04:16] <Thrae> Seither: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft.bat
#791 [04:16] <Seither> sweet, thanks!
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#793 [04:17] <MatthewsTech> VoxelHead: I typed in chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub and nothing happened..
#794 [04:17] <Thrae> Seither: Be sure to edit it for how much memory you want to limit it to. "Xmx" is the maximum, "Xms" is the minimum.
#795 [04:17] <quibbit> ok i restarted
#796 [04:17] <quibbit> still no good
#797 [04:17] <Seither> Also, you guys are awesome, after googling to learn how to get that region fixer to work, I was able to get my world back to working order
#798 [04:17] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: VoxelHead is a bot. And it won't give anything back.
#799 [04:17] <Thrae> quibbit: What was your nick before?
#800 [04:17] <quibbit> no
#801 [04:18] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: Woah.. thats a realistic bot.
#802 [04:18] <Seither> Thrae, whats the bat defaulted to? 1Gb?
#803 [04:18] <r0ckf0x> the memory is now holding at just above 1.1gb
#804 [04:18] <Thrae> quibbit: You are mib_ttt0lh?
#805 [04:18] <quibbit> yes
#806 [04:18] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: So I typed both in terminal. What do I do next?
#807 [04:18] <Thrae> Seither: 2GB max, 1GB min
#808 [04:18] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: Try running Minecraft again and see if it downloads the rest of the files.
#809 [04:18] <Seither> ok thanks
#810 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> Be careful though, if you're running 32-bit java on 32 bit windows, the max RAM you can allocate, I believe, is 1.5 gigs
#811 [04:19] <r0ckf0x> thrae let me install my flymod and texture pack and try again
#812 [04:19] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: Didn't work :/
#813 [04:20] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Yeah, it's 1.5GB to 1.8GB because it must be contiguous.
#814 [04:20] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: We don't help with mods here.
#815 [04:21] <Seither> Thrae, do I need to put the bat in a certain place to get it to work?
#816 [04:21] <Thrae> Seither: Same directory as Minecraft.exe.
#817 [04:22] <quibbit> ok so what do i do now?
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#819 [04:22] <Kiai> Hey, guys. I just died on my SMP-Server and it keeps crashing. Can't connect to it at all even after deleting my player data and the map even makes MCEdit crash when the chunk where I died is being loaded.
#820 [04:22] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: OK, I just checked myself, deleting the resources directory, and indeed it only creates two directories for me -- "resources\newsound\ambient" and "resources\newsound\damage"
#821 [04:23] <Kiai> Didn't even have that many xp.
#822 [04:23] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: If you had more things in there before that was probably a mod that put them in there.
#823 [04:23] <Thrae> Kiai: Did you try using Chunkster?
#824 [04:23] <Kiai> No.
#825 [04:24] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: Yes, thats what happens. But run minecraft, walk on a block that has sound: ie grass. Nothing.
#826 [04:24] <Thrae> quibbit: Go to https://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&ServiceTag=&SystemID=LATITUDE%20D630&os=WW1&osl=en&catid=&impid= , select Video, then download the Intel drivers.
#827 [04:24] <quibbit> ill give it a go
#828 [04:24] <Seither> How do I set the max to 1.5G? changing the 2 to 1.5 says it's invalid
#829 [04:25] <Thrae> Seither: "1536M" without quotes (1.5 * 1024)
#830 [04:25] <quibbit> also while im here how do i allocate more ram? because my other computer is only running 520Mb
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#832 [04:25] <Thrae> Kiai: http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admin-chunkster.8186/
#833 [04:26] <Seither> ah was wondering if it needed converted. thanks. I should hopefully be going to 64 bit in about a week, and getting more ram. hopefully. but want to get this thing running better now, just in case
#834 [04:26] <Thrae> quibbit: RAM is hardware. It's a physical thing in your computer. You can't allocate more if you don't have more.
#835 [04:26] <Kiai> Thrae: Thank you, already found it and on my way.
#836 [04:26] <quibbit> ohh
#837 [04:27] <quibbit> thats pretty bad RAM tho right
#838 [04:27] <Thrae> quibbit: Minecraft officially requires at least 1GB free and may not work with less.
#839 [04:27] <quibbit> on my other one it does, but it is really slow
#840 [04:27] <Seither> That is low, you'll probably want to obtain more. I'd recommend a minimum of 2GB if possible, 4 preferably
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#842 [04:28] <quibbit> well this has 2
#843 [04:28] <quibbit> 2GB
#844 [04:28] <Thrae> If he has two computers, the other one is probably much older and not worth upgrading.
#845 [04:28] <quibbit> yea
#846 [04:28] <Seither> wait, it HAS 2Gb of ram total? or 520Mb?
#847 [04:28] * GreyVulpine frequently gives -Xmx/-Xms256M batch files to people with "Cannot create jvm"
#847 [04:28] <quibbit> but this one wont run MC properly
#848 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> Works alright
#849 [04:29] <quibbit> my old 520Mb, my new 2GB
#850 [04:29] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Yeah, I've had that work on and off. You mean 256M for max and min?
#851 [04:29] * GreyVulpine nods
#851 [04:30] <Thrae> Well quibbit says it works, it's just slow. That's probably just the age of the computer and lack of RAM.
#852 [04:30] <Kiai> Thrae: I absolutely don't get how to use this programm. Where do I have to type in that run command?
#853 [04:30] <quibbit> yea
#854 [04:30] <Thrae> Kiai: It's a command-line utility -- you run it from the command prompt.
#855 [04:31] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: Yes, thats what happens. But run minecraft, walk on a block that has sound: ie grass. Nothing.
#856 [04:31] <Kiai> Thrae: Nothing happens when I type it in.
#857 [04:31] <r0ckf0x> ok
#858 [04:32] <r0ckf0x> i had the wrong window open
#859 [04:32] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: Yeah I saw you say that, I'm just not sure what could be causing that.
#860 [04:32] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: Try updating LWJGL -- http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#861 [04:32] <r0ckf0x> Thrae do i need to run minecraft through the bat from now on?
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#863 [04:32] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: To fix the crashes you're getting, yes.
#864 [04:32] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: Yeah, does your resources folder have only newsound?
#865 [04:33] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: I told you -- yes. A lot of the sounds are actually kept in the minecraft.jar.
#866 [04:33] <r0ckf0x> is there a way to hide the cmd window?
#867 [04:33] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: k, well I saw minecraft update it when I force updated and deleted the bin.
#868 [04:34] <MatthewsTech> afk for 10 mins.. :/
#869 [04:34] <Kiai> Thrae: Still nothing is happening except a window being opened very shortly.
#870 [04:34] <Thrae> Kiai: That's because you need to open the command prompt. Start->Run->cmd
#871 [04:35] <haydo> i have purchased the game and can only play one player and can not get multiplayer to work how i do this?
#872 [04:35] <Thrae> haydo: How long ago did you purchase the game? Did you get a confirmation email to your upgrade to Premium?
#873 [04:35] <Thrae> Kiai: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial76.html
#874 [04:36] <Kiai> Well, yea, I know what the cmd prompt is
#875 [04:36] <quibbit> im running windows 7 and tthe dell website doesnt have that option for the driver download
#876 [04:36] <Kiai> Thrae: Unable to access jarfile Chunkster.jar
#877 [04:36] <Thrae> quibbit: Just use Vista.
#878 [04:36] <quibbit> ok
#879 [04:36] <Thrae> Kiai: Is Chunkster.jar in the same directory you're in?
#880 [04:37] <Kiai> It's in the dist-folder.
#881 [04:37] <Thrae> Kiai: Are you running Windows?
#882 [04:37] <haydo> bought it on sunday and did get the email
#883 [04:37] <Kiai> Yes.
#884 [04:37] <Thrae> haydo: What's your account name?
#885 [04:37] <Seither> Kiai move it to the main folder right before the one you'd access to view your world info
#886 [04:37] <haydo> haydo10
#887 [04:38] <Thrae> Kiai: OK, so you have to move it to the folder one level above your world. IE if your world is C:\Minecraft_Server\world then move it to C:\Minecraft_Server.
#888 [04:38] <Thrae> !paid haydo10
#889 [04:38] <Thrae> haydo: OK, everything seems good there. So, you can login OK in the launcher?
#890 [04:38] <Kiai> Do I have to extract the Chunkster.jar from the dist folder? If not - I did unzip the entire thing into this folder you mentioned.
#891 [04:39] <haydo> will try thanks
#892 [04:39] <Thrae> Kiai: Java needs to know where the file Chunkster.jar is. If it's not in the current folder you're in while you're in the command prompt then you need to tell Java or move it.
#893 [04:39] <H2O^phin> hey
#894 [04:40] <H2O^phin> were can I go to figure out why my minecraft account when regular
#895 [04:40] <H2O^phin> went
#896 [04:40] <Thrae> H2O^phin: How long ago did you purchase Minecraft?
#897 [04:40] <Seither> whats your user?
#898 [04:40] <H2O^phin> october of last year
#899 [04:40] <Thrae> OK, your username?
#900 [04:40] <H2O^phin> phinix
#901 [04:40] <Thrae> !paid phinix
#902 [04:40] <Seither> !paid phinix
#903 [04:40] <H2O^phin> yeah I have my reciept for the game and have logged in before
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#905 [04:41] <H2O^phin> no problem
#906 [04:41] <Seither> contact support then
#907 [04:41] <H2O^phin> cool I have done that
#908 [04:41] <Thrae> H2O^phin: Well then reference your receipt and contact support@mojang.com .
#909 [04:41] <Seither> have they replied?
#910 [04:41] <quibbit> "this operaqting system not supported" when i try download the epress chipset family driver
#911 [04:41] <H2O^phin> just wondering if there was anything else
#912 [04:41] <Seither> nope, unfortunately, you have to wait for them
#913 [04:41] <H2O^phin> they have not replied yet
#914 [04:41] <H2O^phin> I will wait
#915 [04:41] <H2O^phin> patiantly
#916 [04:42] <H2O^phin> first I thought maybe I have forgot my login information some how
#917 [04:42] <r0ckf0x> Thanks Thrae!
#918 [04:42] <Thrae> quibbit: OK, let's check something. Download http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/experimental/minecraft_nogpu.bat , place it in the same folder as Minecraft.exe, then run the batch file.
#919 [04:42] <H2O^phin> but did the recovery and the only email address I had at the time is the one that I was sent the information for
#920 [04:43] <Thrae> H2O^phin: Well, the haspaid.jsp page is showing that the user "phinix" is not a Premium user.
#921 [04:43] <Seither> They'll get back to you pretty quick
#922 [04:43] <Thrae> H2O^phin: Have you tried "Forgot Username?"
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#924 [04:43] <quibbit> ok done and im running minecraft
#925 [04:43] <Seither> !paid Seither
#926 [04:43] <Thrae> quibbit: OK, so it's definitely a problem with your Intel 965 Express graphics chipset.
#927 [04:44] <Seither> hehe, that's cool. I like that
#928 [04:44] <Thrae> quibbit: Actually, wait....
#929 [04:44] <Thrae> quibbit: Download and run this batch file in the same place -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/experimental/LaunchMinecraftmx800.bat
#930 [04:45] <Kiai> Thrae: I'm typing in: java -jar Chunkster.jar "E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER\world" and it still does not run the debug feature but instead repeats "usage: java -jar Chunkster.jar <world directory>".
#931 [04:45] <Kiai> What am I doing wrong?
#932 [04:45] <H2O^phin> i redact this statment
#933 [04:45] <H2O^phin> I used a differant username with the same email
#934 [04:45] <Thrae> Seither: Didn't you say there was some newer version of Chunkster you tried?
#935 [04:45] <H2O^phin> frak me
#936 [04:45] <quibbit> done
#937 [04:45] <H2O^phin> !paid phinix08
#938 [04:45] <H2O^phin> lol
#939 [04:46] <H2O^phin> my bad
#940 [04:46] <Thrae> quibbit: Did that batch file work?
#941 [04:46] <quibbit> yes
#942 [04:46] <MatthewsTech> Back.
#943 [04:46] <quibbit> i think so
#944 [04:46] <Thrae> quibbit: OK, yeah, there's a weird memory issue with 965. You just need to use that batch file and you should be fine.
#945 [04:46] <haydo> just tried it says to add a server how do i do this i got a email to say i puchased it but i didn't get a comfirmation email to upgrade to premium
#946 [04:46] <Thrae> quibbit: The mx800 one, not the "nogpu" one.
#947 [04:46] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: Did you see the message just before I went afk?
#948 [04:47] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: Did you get my message about updating LWJGL?
#949 [04:47] <quibbit> what do i do with it
#950 [04:47] <Thrae> quibbit: You can delete the FIRST batch file I had you download. The second one you'll need to use instead of Minecraft.exe to run Minecraft.
#951 [04:47] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: I did, but I said that I saw minecraft update that when I deleted the bin folder.
#952 [04:47] <quibbit> it doesnt launch minecraft tho
#953 [04:48] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: Well, are you still having the same problem after you let Minecraft update it?
#954 [04:48] <Kiai> Thrae: I'm typing in: java -jar Chunkster.jar "E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER\world" and it still does not run the debug feature but instead repeats "usage: java -jar Chunkster.jar <world directory>". What did I do wrong?
#955 [04:48] <Thrae> Kiai: Wait until Seither comes back -- he just had a similar problem as you and used the tools on 1.8.x, where as I have not.
#956 [04:49] <Thrae> quibbit: OK, the FIRST batch file launches Minecraft and the SECOND batch file does NOT?
#957 [04:49] <quibbit> i just tried to download the Nvidia driver, and it said it couldn't find any hardware
#958 [04:49] <quibbit> neither did
#959 [04:49] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: I can now hear mobs, water, but not the blocks when I walk on them or break them.
#960 [04:49] <Thrae> quibbit: You have an Intel 965 Express graphics chipset.
#961 [04:50] <r0ckf0x> Thrae my minecraft just crashed
#962 [04:50] <r0ckf0x> aaand the error file is empty ...
#963 [04:50] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: You'll need to copy from the crash window.
#964 [04:50] <Seither> Thrae so new problem, I now have no sound in minecraft
#965 [04:51] <r0ckf0x> im dumb i closed it. i will try to replicate the crash
#966 [04:51] <Kiai> Thrae: What about Seither now?
#967 [04:51] <Thrae> Seither: Can you help Kiai? He's trying to use Chunkster.
#968 [04:51] <MatthewsTech> Seither: I have the same problem, but I can only not hear when I break blocks and walk on them.
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#971 [04:52] <anthonyten> anyone need help?
#972 [04:52] <Seither> MatthewsTech I have no sound at all
#973 [04:52] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: Follow this update tutorial for LWJGL -- http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#974 [04:52] <Seither> Kiai ok, where are you at on trying to use Chunkster?
#975 [04:52] <anthonyten> do you have windows
#976 [04:52] <Arco> Anyone around that can offer Mac help?
#977 [04:52] <anthonyten> mathew
#978 [04:52] <MatthewsTech> Seither: Thats no good.
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#980 [04:53] <anthonyten> who has a good server
#981 [04:53] <Thrae> quibbit: Go into Programs and Features and remove all versions of Java, then download from http://www.java.com/en/download/
#982 [04:53] <anthonyten> and can i join lol
#983 [04:53] <MatthewsTech> anthonyten: No, Mac.
#984 [04:53] <Thrae> ?? smp/servers
#985 [04:53] <anthonyten> Oh sorry mathew cant help then lol
#986 [04:53] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#987 [04:53] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#988 [04:53] <anthonyten> yes thrae
#989 [04:53] <Kiai> Seither: I found out how to access the Chunkster.jar. Problem is when I type in the command line java -jar Chunkster.jar E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER\world it just reapeats "chunkster: region pointer repair utility 0.1 // usage: java -jar Chunkster.jar <world directory>"
#990 [04:54] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: How strange.. works now. I can hear every sound.
#991 [04:54] <Seither> ok, hang on, I bet I know the issue
#992 [04:54] <Thrae> Kiai: Oh -- put the path in quotes, "E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER\world"
#993 [04:54] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: Just randomly, or after updating LWJGL?
#994 [04:54] <Kiai> Thrae: Already tried.
#995 [04:54] <anthonyten> lol theres no good servers anymore
#996 [04:54] <anthonyten> there all just bs
#997 [04:54] <Thrae> Kiai: When you do "dir E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER\world", does it list a bunch of files?
#998 [04:55] <anthonyten> back in june 2009 classes was beast
#999 [04:55] <Arco> I'm having a weird problem. I updated to 1.8, but then needed to downgrade, since my SMP server of choice is still running 1.7.3. I grabbed my old /bin/ folder and swapped it back in, and now whenever I load up the game, after the preloader/patcher (works fine, choose "no" for the update), I get stuck on a black screen.
#1000 [04:55] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: After updating lwjgl, but it took a while.. I had to walk around for a bit.
#1001 [04:55] <Seither> Kiai download Chunkster from this link http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7365249/Chunkster.zip
#1002 [04:55] <anthonyten> classic*
#1003 [04:55] <Arco> Mac OSX, btw.
#1004 [04:55] <Kiai> Obviously it does, Seither.
#1005 [04:55] <Seither> then replace the old Chunkster files with that one
#1006 [04:56] <Thrae> MatthewsTech: Yeah Mojang doesn't make LWJGL, it's the Lightweight Java Gaming Library, so sometimes you need to update the natives it provides.
#1007 [04:56] <Seither> including the Chunkster.jar
#1008 [04:56] <MatthewsTech> Thrae: k, thanks for all the help.
#1009 [04:56] <r0ckf0x> ok how much of the log do you want thrae?
#1010 [04:56] <Seither> I discovered that the one linked on the homepage doesn't work right for some reaosn, that's the one i used that worked
#1011 [04:56] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: All you can paste to www.pastebin.com
#1012 [04:56] <anthonyten> :(
#1013 [04:57] <Arco> Anyone know of a fix, or having a similar problem?
#1014 [04:57] <anthonyten> I have a horrible reputation on minecraft can I fix that?
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#1016 [04:57] <Seither> Arco what's you OSX version number?
#1017 [04:57] <anthonyten> is it possible?
#1018 [04:57] <Thrae> Arco: Sounds like something didn't copy correctly. Just in case, follow this tutorial -- http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#1019 [04:57] <Arco> 10.6.8
#1020 [04:58] <r0ckf0x> Here is the pastebin url http://pastebin.com/mugCxzQc
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#1022 [04:58] <Seither> Kiai Did you download it and replace? Got it working?
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#1024 [04:59] <Kiai> Typing in the command, sec, Seither
#1025 [04:59] <Thrae> ??> r0ckf0x win/reinst/bat
#1026 [04:59] <VoxelHead> r0ckf0x: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1027 [04:59] <VoxelHead> r0ckf0x: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1028 [04:59] <Kiai> Seither: Work in progress, script is working now.
#1029 [05:00] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: Run that batch file, then play the game WITHOUT adding any mods or using MCPatcher or anything, and see if the crash occurs. Most likely it's whatever patching it's done.
#1030 [05:00] <Seither> Kiai alright, glad to hear we got you up and running. I hope that fixes your issue
#1031 [05:00] <r0ckf0x> ok
#1032 [05:00] <Kiai> Seither: Scan finished, shall I just try to reload the server now?
#1033 [05:00] <Arco> Thrae: Replaced files in my /bin/ folder with files from the LWJGL archive, no dice. Still hangs on a black screen with my old 1.7.3 /bin/.
#1034 [05:00] <r0ckf0x> i kind of need the fly mod at least.
#1035 [05:00] <Seither> Kiai did it say if it found anything?
#1036 [05:01] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: You know you can fly now in Creative maps, right?
#1037 [05:01] <Seither> Kiai you can just open it and see if it's fixed, but if it doesn't say it fixed anything, it'd more thanlikrely be a waste o time
#1038 [05:01] <Arco> Does anyone have a link to a clean 1.7.3 bin with no mods or anything? I'm thinking maybe it's a mod/MCpatcher issue.
#1039 [05:01] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: And we don't support mods here -- they are known to cause problems JUST like you are having.
#1040 [05:02] <r0ckf0x> i cant fly in an SMP server without zombe
#1041 [05:02] <Arco> I tried unpatching it, but that's not helping.
#1042 [05:02] <Thrae> r0ckf0x: You can now fly in 1.8.x servers running Creative maps, if they allow it.
#1043 [05:02] <r0ckf0x> I am admin on a SMP server
#1044 [05:02] <r0ckf0x> not creative
#1045 [05:03] <Thrae> Or if it's using Bukkit, you can use a plugin.
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#1047 [05:03] <r0ckf0x> there is a fly plugin for bukkit?
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#1049 [05:03] <Thrae> There are lots of fly plugins for Bukkit. I use IBICF.jar (I Believe I Can Fly)
#1050 [05:03] <Arco> Anyone else have any ideas?
#1051 [05:03] <r0ckf0x> lol
#1052 [05:03] <r0ckf0x> ok
#1053 [05:03] <Thrae> ?? oldversion
#1054 [05:03] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#1055 [05:04] <Seither> Arco, only thing I can think of is update your server
#1056 [05:04] <Kiai> Seither: Well, I still cannot connect to the server and it hangs up but at least I can now open the map in MCEdit. Will try to load it in SP.
#1057 [05:04] <Seither> Kiai, ok what's your problem, I missed that part of the conversation
#1058 [05:04] <Arco> Seither: Not an option. There's got to be some reason behind the black screen. If I update to 1.8, it loads fine. And I had the exact same problem, trying to go back from 1.7 to 1.6.
#1059 [05:05] <Arco> The problem occurs when I swap in an old bin and try to play the old version.
#1060 [05:05] <Thrae> Arco: MCNostalia is the only legal way to obtain good, old binaries.
#1061 [05:05] <Seither> It may be due to the fact that we have a new launcher, so you might need the OLD launcher. Thrae is right, that's the only thing I can think o as well
#1062 [05:06] <Kiai> Seither: I died (obv to a creeper) and seemingly dropped quite a bit of xp, even though players died with more xp on that server already wihtout making it crash. In this case however it's impossible for me to get the server running again. I cannot even log in, despite deleting my player data.
#1063 [05:06] <Arco> Does some data get fried moving the bins in and out of the Minecraft folder and attempting to play with them? I hear of people doing this all the time, but for some reason, it doesn't work for me.
#1064 [05:06] <GreyVulpine> kiai - Most likely, you'll need to go in with a map editor, and remove those xp orb entities manually.
#1065 [05:06] <Thrae> Arco: Usually not.
#1066 [05:06] <Havvy> Arco: Shouldn't.
#1067 [05:07] <Arco> Yeah. That's what everyone tells me. But it just doesn't work for me, and a buddy of mine is having the exact same problem.
#1068 [05:07] <Arco> I feel like I'm screwing up somewhere, but... I can't for the life of me figure out where or how.
#1069 [05:07] <Kiai> GreyVulpine: How to select the enteties? I would like not to kill my ressources I dropped if possible.
#1070 [05:07] <Kiai> entities*
#1071 [05:07] <Thrae> It works for me on Windows (and OS shouldn't be an issue).
#1072 [05:07] <GreyVulpine> That.. would be much harder to distinguish.
#1073 [05:07] <Arco> Swap in an old 1.7.3 bin that's clean of all mods, restart Minecraft, it asks to update (so it's clearly using the old 1.7.3 files), I say no, and then... black screen.
#1074 [05:08] <Seither> GreyVulpine thats not entirely true region-fixer has a delete entities function that removes any collection of entities over 500(or a value you set)
#1075 [05:08] <Kiai> Okay, Ima just erase everything and generate new stuff being the operator I am. :/
#1076 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> Ah, duly noted.
#1077 [05:08] <GreyVulpine> I'm only really experienced with removing entities with MCedit.
#1078 [05:09] <Kiai> So does that mean deleting entities won't help?
#1079 [05:09] <Thrae> Kiai: Seither is giving an alternate way to delete the entities.
#1080 [05:09] <Seither> Kiai https://github.com/downloads/Fenixin/Minecraft-Region-Fixer/Region-Fixer-v0.0.4%20(Windows%20x86).zip
#1081 [05:10] <Kiai> Is that the python script?
#1082 [05:10] <Seither> this one is the executible version o it, but yes
#1083 [05:10] <Seither> you'll use command prompt to run it
#1084 [05:10] <Seither> Kiai unzip that into the same place you put the Chunkster
#1085 [05:11] <Kiai> omg... When I used this the first time I had no help and absolutely no experience with running python scripts. I never raged so hard in my entire life while despairing to get it running. After 4 hours and tearing my t-shirt apart I did it though. <.<
#1086 [05:11] <Seither> then open command to that folder (you can shift right click it and choose open command prompt here to open it to that folder)
#1087 [05:12] <Seither> the command you need to use is region-fixer.exe --de <worldpath>
#1088 [05:12] <Seither> <worldpath> is the ENTIRE path to your world folder
#1089 [05:12] <Seither> example, c:\user\desktop\server\world
#1090 [05:13] <Seither> also, if your folders have any spaces in their name, get rid of them
#1091 [05:13] <Seither> it refuses to recognize a space
#1092 [05:13] <Kiai> Yea, I'm familiar with that. I use _ always instead of spaces.
#1093 [05:14] <Kiai> Still... which executable file do I have to start? Because region-fixer.exe immediately closes.
#1094 [05:14] <Seither> Kiai whats your world path name?
#1095 [05:14] <Seither> from c to world folder
#1096 [05:15] <Kiai> E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER_SINGED\singed is the exact name.
#1097 [05:15] <Seither> Kiai ok go to E:\MinecraftServer\
#1098 [05:16] <Kiai> In cmd?
#1099 [05:16] <Seither> then shift right click SERVER_SINGED
#1100 [05:16] <Kiai> Then what?
#1101 [05:16] <Seither> select open command window here
#1102 [05:17] <Kiai> Can't do that since it's a folder. :/
#1103 [05:17] <Seither> you should be able to
#1104 [05:17] <Kiai> Open
#1105 [05:17] <Seither> did you hold shift and then right click the folder?
#1106 [05:17] <Kiai> Yes.
#1107 [05:17] <Kiai> Options are: Open, Exlporer, Search, Lock
#1108 [05:17] <Seither> what version of windows are you running?
#1109 [05:17] <Kiai> XP SP3
#1110 [05:17] <Seither> ah, nevermind then
#1111 [05:18] <Kiai> :P
#1112 [05:18] <Kiai> I'll just navigate there with cmd
#1113 [05:18] <Kiai> sec
#1114 [05:18] <Seither> ok in cmd get to E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER_SINGED
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#1116 [05:18] <Seither> Kiai you want E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER_SINGED in cmd
#1117 [05:18] <Kiai> Okay.
#1118 [05:18] <Kiai> There.
#1119 [05:19] <Seither> ok, because i forget, can you paste into cmd in XP? right click in the window it should be an option
#1120 [05:19] <Kiai> Yes
#1121 [05:19] <Seither> ok that makes this easy
#1122 [05:19] <Seither> region-fixer.exe --de E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER_SINGED\singed
#1123 [05:20] <Seither> copy that
#1124 [05:20] <Seither> paste it in and hit enter
#1125 [05:20] <Seither> it should run and delete any entities over 500
#1126 [05:20] <Seither> hopefully that will fix your issue
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#1128 [05:20] <aram> hi everybody!
#1129 [05:20] <Seither> if not try region-fixer.exe --dw E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER_SINGED\singed and region-fixer.exe --dc E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER_SINGED\singed
#1130 [05:21] <Seither> i none of that works, I'm out of ideas :P
#1131 [05:21] <Kiai> I needed to navigate to the region-fixer.exe though, didn't I?
#1132 [05:21] <Seither> hi aram
#1133 [05:21] <aram> lol, nice warning, im running OSX 10.5.8 and MC 1.8 and it works perfectly
#1134 [05:21] <Seither> no, if you put all that was in the zip in region-fixer.exe --dw E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER_SINGED\ it will work
#1135 [05:22] <Seither> Kiai put it in E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER_SINGED\
#1136 [05:22] <Seither> didn't realize i over copied
#1137 [05:22] <quibbit> thrae?
#1138 [05:22] <Kiai> It's okay. Could have told me to navigate to RF's directory. I got it running now. :P
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#1140 [05:23] <Kiai> I don't like my folders to be messed up, that's why I put it into a seperate folder. Fun stuff:
#1141 [05:23] <Seither> lol, sorry, I'm use to explaining everything in layman, I work techsupport, not use to people understanding "go to this directory" lol
#1142 [05:23] <aram> so, help meh please: on my partners laptop I have to start minecraft with java -Xmx800m -jar "path of Minecraft.jar". I want to use the online solution to run MC to change the offline name from player so we can play offline on a LAN server. The command for this is: java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -cp "%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\*" -Djava.library.path="%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft "yournamegoeshere" how do i combine the 2 commands
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#1144 [05:24] <Arco> Uh. Okay, so I downloaded MCNostalgia, the patches, and python...
#1145 [05:24] <Kiai> "The chunk <20,2> in region file <nbt.region.RegionFile object at 0x0blabla> has 9496 entities, and this may be too much. This may be a problem!
#1146 [05:24] <Seither> Kiai I'd go ahead and run region-fixer.exe --dw E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER_SINGED\singed and region-fixer.exe --dc E:\MinecraftServer\SERVER_SINGED\singed just to ensure you have no world corruption, as that might cause your error
#1147 [05:25] <Arco> And I'm running MCNostalgia, but I think it's just actually loading up the source file for MCNostalgia, and not executing it.
#1148 [05:25] <Kiai> "The chunk <20,3> in region file blabla has 12887 (!!) entities and this may be too much. This may be a problem.
#1149 [05:25] <Arco> Should I be getting some kind of "application" window?
#1150 [05:25] <quibbit> i need help, thrae was helping but now idle
#1151 [05:25] <Seither> yep, there you go, it'll delete those and fix it all up
#1152 [05:25] <Kiai> Erm...
#1153 [05:25] <Seither> that would be like, 3 hours of work in MCedit
#1154 [05:25] <Kiai> 3 hours?
#1155 [05:26] <Seither> well, unless you decide to whipe every entity in a huge region
#1156 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Not really, Mcedit can pretty much do the same thing in a couple of clicks
#1157 [05:26] <Kiai> I could as well just mark the area where I died and hit "delete all entities", couldn't I?
#1158 [05:26] <Seither> sometimes
#1159 [05:26] <Seither> but when a world corrupts
#1160 [05:26] <Seither> more entities spawn like crazy elsewhere
#1161 [05:26] <Kiai> That would mean that those two chunks are completely lost though.
#1162 [05:27] <aram> any help for me?
#1163 [05:27] <Kiai> I got some important stuff there.
#1164 [05:27] <Seither> so you might have 4 or 5 places all across the map with hundreds or thousands of entities
#1165 [05:27] <Seither> aram sorry no idea
#1166 [05:28] <Arco> Anyone with any suggestions on how to work MCNostalgia? I'm not getting this.
#1167 [05:28] <Seither> Arco no, i've never actually used it
#1168 [05:29] <Seither> GreyVulpine but as far as I know, MCedit doesn't differentiate items and other entities, where as region-fixer didn't delete the items i had laying on the ground.
#1169 [05:29] <Seither> quibbit what was your problem?
#1170 [05:29] <aram> afk for a bit, if anyone knows how to solve my problem please pm me
#1171 [05:30] <Kiai> Seither: But doesn't deleting the chunks mean that all information on them are lost so it will generate a new part of the map?
#1172 [05:32] <Seither> Kiai Only if the chunk is corrupted. If all that happened for you is overload via entities, it should be fine. But i you haven't run the other two commands yet you can try to log on before and see
#1173 [05:32] <Kiai> Will do.
#1174 [05:34] <Seither> Kiai Unfortunately I an only tell you what happened with mine in my personal experience, but I didn't have anything rare on me when died, so i wasn't as worried about losing anything. If you are able to get on, I'd get your items really quick and then log back of and run the commands to prevent possible corruption from spreading if there is any.
#1175 [05:35] <Kiai> I will try using MCEdit and RF on two different backups. Let's see the results.
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#1177 [05:36] <Seither> Sounds good.
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#1179 [05:38] <ZeHaxor> back
#1180 [05:38] <Seither> wb
#1181 [05:38] <Kiai> I mean: it's quite easy to erase the XP-balls since there is one really intense R 255 B 0 G 0 deathball at the exact position where I blew up.
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#1183 [05:41] <Arco> Uh, okay. Figured out how to run MCNostalgia. Sort of.
#1184 [05:41] <Arco> But now it's saying that the patch files aren't found, even though they're where the readme says to put them...
#1185 [05:41] <Seither> Kiai haha I didn't think about the RBG signature of them, though i wonder why its not 255 green, i could have sworn those things glowed green
#1186 [05:42] <Kiai> Entities in MCEdit are shown with a opaque red block.
#1187 [05:43] <Kiai> This ball isn't opaque anymore since over 20000 entities stacked on top of each other.
#1188 [05:43] <Seither> I knew that. I was thinking the color was for the actual item's color. that makes sense now. and true lol
#1189 [05:46] <Kiai> Erm... yea.
#1190 [05:46] <Kiai> Nothing worked, lol.
#1191 [05:46] <Seither> Kiai, then I really have no idea. can anyone else connect to your server?
#1192 [05:46] <Kiai> Still says "connection error" and when I try to log in it's "end of stream"
#1193 [05:46] <Kiai> sec
#1194 [05:47] <Kiai> No, they have the same problem.
#1195 [05:47] <Seither> Kiai start a new server and see if you connect to that
#1196 [05:48] <Seither> if you already havent
#1197 [05:48] <Seither> if you do, the old server is seriously corrupted andI have no idea how to recover it
#1198 [05:49] <Seither> if not...the issue lies either in MC or whatever you're using to connect with people
#1199 [05:49] <Kiai> Created a new world and I can connect to the server.
#1200 [05:50] <Seither> then its the server itself and it is seriously messed up. hang on, let me look up something
#1201 [05:50] <Kiai> I will try to load the world in single player
#1202 [05:50] <Kiai> trololol
#1203 [05:51] <Kiai> Minecraft crashes
#1204 [05:51] <Seither> how are you hosting the server btw? the normal minecraft server exe? or some hosting service thing?
#1205 [05:51] <Kiai> regular one
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#1207 [05:53] <Seither> I'm assuming you saved what you did in MCedit
#1208 [05:53] <Kiai> Mhhh, okay. Now I loaded the world worked over with MCEdit and I at least reach the ingame status, despite only having a black screen apart from my hud and having Minecraft crash again.
#1209 [05:53] <Kiai> Yes.
#1210 [05:53] <Seither> try moving the spawn point, saving, see if that does anything
#1211 [05:54] <Kiai> Interestingly enough MCEdit keeps crashing as soon as it loads a certain chunk.
#1212 [05:57] <Seither> run chunkster and region-fixer again then, it sounds like you have a severely corrupted chunk
#1213 [05:58] <Seither> only other thing i can say is to read http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/47284-internal-exception-javanetsocketexception-connection-reset/ and see if anyone has found something in there that'll work
#1214 [05:59] <Kiai> Mh... It did not erase all the entities in MCEdit.
#1215 [05:59] <Calinou> outdated MCEdit cannot read newer MCEdit maps
#1216 [05:59] <Kiai> What command should delete the corrputed chunks in RF?
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#1218 [05:59] <Kiai> Because the dc-Command did nothing as well as the dw-Command except scanning.
#1219 [06:01] <Seither> should have been --dc. --dw only deleted wrongly placed chunks
#1220 [06:01] <Seither> type region-fixer.exe --help
#1221 [06:01] <Seither> it'll give a list of all the comands
#1222 [06:02] <Seither> and what they do
#1223 [06:04] <Kiai> --dele-entities sounds good
#1224 [06:04] <aram> any help with my above run command issue?
#1225 [06:04] <Kiai> "This option deletes all the entities of chunks with more entities than [...] 500 by default.
#1226 [06:04] <Kiai> delete*
#1227 [06:06] <aram> on my partners laptop I have to start minecraft with java -Xmx800m -jar "path of Minecraft.jar". I want to use the online solution to run MC to change the offline name from player so we can play offline on a LAN server. The command for this is: java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -cp "%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\*" -Djava.library.path="%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft "yournamegoeshere" how do i combine the 2 commands?
#1228 [06:07] <aram> (actually there's a few variations on offline command but im not sure which parts are important)
#1229 [06:07] <Kiai> Seither: CHAKAAA!!! --de did it.
#1230 [06:08] <Seither> Kiai haha, that's the first command I told you to run earlier. Did you accidentally skip it?
#1231 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> If you just want the memory argument of the first command...
#1232 [06:08] <Seither> aram, sorry man, I really don't know how to combine the two
#1233 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx800m -cp "%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\*" -Djava.library.path="%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft "yournamegoeshere"
#1234 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> That should basically be the combination of the two
#1235 [06:09] <Seither> Kiai either way though,I'm happy your server is fixed, and I hope your stuff isn't gone
#1236 [06:09] <aram> thanks GreyVulpine, the -jar isn't important?
#1237 [06:09] <aram> ill try it now
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#1239 [06:13] <Kiai> Seither: it was deleted with the other entities but I can generate the same stuff with op commands in the server.exe again, so np. At least I did not have to erase the chunks.
#1240 [06:14] <Kiai> Seither: Hope you can help others quicker next time through this experience. Grab region-fixer and run --de to remove the XP-balls. <3
#1241 [06:14] <Seither> Kiai, ah that stinks, but ya, at least its fixed without destroy stuff
#1242 [06:15] <Seither> Kiai ya lol, I'll have to make sure thats the first command they run lol.
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#1244 [06:19] <Puddles> Hello, i purchased minecraft, however i purchased 2 by mistake is there any chance in getting a refund for 1 purchase
#1245 [06:19] <aram> Thanks GreyVulpine, looked like it worked perfect (loaded up to the main screen anyway)
#1246 [06:19] <aram> give one to a friend!
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#1248 [06:19] <tyman231> Can I get help for mod coding here?
#1249 [06:21] <tyman231> ?
#1250 [06:21] <Seither> no, we're a help irc for game problems
#1251 [06:21] <tyman231> Oh, ok.
#1252 [06:21] <tyman231> What channel should I go too
#1253 [06:21] <tyman231> *to?
#1254 [06:21] <GreyVulpine> For mod coding, try #risucraft or #mcp-modding
#1255 [06:22] <tyman231> Thanks
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#1265 [06:58] <dylanbarberdude> why does my faverate minecraft classic serverr crash my browser but other servers dont?
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#1270 [07:06] <Ladinn> can anyone help? i was accedentally banned from#minecraft and #smp for no reaso
#1271 [07:07] <dylanbarberdude> reason?
#1272 [07:07] <Ladinn> no reason
#1273 [07:07] <dylanbarberdude> change your nick to ladinn
#1274 [07:07] <Ladinn> i just logged in and got banned
#1275 [07:07] <dylanbarberdude> not using /nick
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#1277 [07:08] <Ladinn> i already registered this one...
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#1280 [07:12] <cragle56> Can't start minecraft. Error says to try update video drivers but they are the latest. Any help?
#1281 [07:13] <dylanbarberdude> imcompatible graphics card you cant play minecraft
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#1283 [07:16] <cragle56> intel 945G . shouuld I give up
#1284 [07:17] <dylanbarberdude> yes
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#1286 [07:17] <dylanbarberdude> buy a new graphics card. yours is probley dead
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#1288 [07:18] <cragle56> Thanks dude
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#1294 [07:28] <dylanbarberdude> join my channel LOOKING FOR FULL TIME OPS #minecraft1.8
#1295 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> I will only warn you once. Do not use this channel to advertise.
#1296 [07:30] <dylanbarberdude> i need ops looking for help
#1297 [07:30] <dylanbarberdude> soz
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#1312 [08:20] <Xzal> Hi I have a possible issue.. Im having mobs spawn inside a secure, fully lit home :/
#1313 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> When?
#1314 [08:20] <Xzal> After waking from a bed
#1315 [08:20] <iTreefish> Xzal, you sure its secure as in no open doorways
#1316 [08:20] <Xzal> The bed is slap bang centre and doesnt share a wall. No open doors :p
#1317 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> Also, are you using either a double door?
#1318 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> or is the bed right next to a wall?
#1319 [08:21] <Xzal> I do have two double doors.
#1320 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> That'll do it
#1321 [08:21] <Xzal> 0.o Whut...
#1322 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Doors
#1323 [08:21] <Xzal> It never caused it before though
#1324 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> Section on "double door"
#1325 [08:21] <GreyVulpine> Has been this way for... well, ever.
#1326 [08:22] <Xzal> Well .. I must have been very lucky to have played since alpha and never have it happen due to doors.
#1327 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> Looks like you may have just been lucky until now
#1328 [08:22] * GreyVulpine has also played since alpha
#1328 [08:22] <iTreefish> Question about mac installations: there is only a folder in the ~/Library/Application Support/Minecraft that contain settings right?
#1329 [08:22] <Xzal> Wait is this: "Placing the door inside out in your home will mean that monsters will be able to go through it. You place the door safely by going outside of your home, and then placing the door in the doorway that you have made." what is being referred to?
#1330 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> Basically, it has to do with the hinge of the door, and which side of the wall you're placing it on
#1331 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> With a certain way of placing the door, one side will be "outside"
#1332 [08:23] <Xzal> Right well my doors are flush with the outside and not inset.
#1333 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> Right.
#1334 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> And because one hinges opposite, the door on the right, looking in, is considered "open", or hostile, while it's in a closed state
#1335 [08:25] <Xzal> -.-
#1336 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I know.
#1337 [08:25] <Xzal> Would inverting my doors make any difference?
#1338 [08:25] <GreyVulpine> basically, like the article states, just having the right one open while you sleep, will solve it
#1339 [08:26] <Xzal> haha mad. Thanks though
#1340 [08:26] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1340 [08:27] <Xzal> Suppose it means I never have to open a door again though Bwaha
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#1344 [08:42] <thomasreddington> Hi
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#1346 [08:43] <thomasreddington> Can someone help me out please?
#1347 [08:43] <thomasreddington> I’m having logging in problems
#1348 [08:44] <TheNoodle> Sure, what issues are you having?
#1349 [08:44] <thomasreddington> When I login to Minecraft it can’t connect to minecraft.net so I’m resigned to play offline
#1350 [08:44] <thomasreddington> But when I login to the website it works
#1351 [08:44] <thomasreddington> So I can’t play multiplayer or update to 1.8.1
#1352 [08:45] <TheNoodle> Redownload the launcher
#1353 [08:45] <thomasreddington> Do you have a link?
#1354 [08:45] <thomasreddington> No wait
#1355 [08:45] <thomasreddington> Sorry
#1356 [08:45] <thomasreddington> I got it
#1357 [08:45] <TheNoodle> lol
#1358 [08:45] <TheNoodle> !client
#1359 [08:47] <thomasreddington> Thank you!
#1360 [08:47] <TheNoodle> You're welcome ^_^
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#1364 [08:51] <TheNoodle> ;+ oldclient Due to some changes within Minecraft account authentication older clients will no longer be able to log in. To fix this issue simply redownload the launcher from http://minecraft.net See also, !client
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#1366 [08:51] <WugBot> Done.
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#1374 [09:42] <Zi> Hello.
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#1377 [09:47] <bobd0le-> So.......i havent played minecraft in about 3months
#1378 [09:47] <bobd0le-> whats changed / will i need a new texture pack?
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#1380 [09:48] <Zi> Yes.
#1381 [09:48] <LaXiS> hey there hi all
#1382 [09:48] <Zi> "<html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: create</center></font></body></html>"
#1383 [09:48] <Zi> Help?
#1384 [09:48] <LaXiS> i need help
#1385 [09:50] <Zi> Can someone/anyone explain why my grandpa gets that error on his computer when he opens the Minecraft.exe?
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#1390 [09:57] <Zi> McPlusplus?
#1391 [10:00] <Zi> My grandpa gets this error everytime he starts the launcher and he can't login on Minecraft: "<html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: create</center></font></body></html>"
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#1395 [10:16] <U2> Who's good with classic?
#1396 [10:18] <bobd0le-> where's the mc multiplayer server list?
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#1398 [10:21] <Wug> huh
#1399 [10:21] <Wug> where'd my bouncer go
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#1401 [10:23] <Wug_> I guess it just shat itself for no reason
#1402 [10:24] <bobd0le-> where's the mc multiplayer server list?
#1403 [10:24] <bobd0le-> there was one with a white background i used to use
#1404 [10:24] <bobd0le-> but i cant find it :(
#1405 [10:24] <bobd0le-> also cant find one that filters to uk servers
#1406 [10:24] <Wug_> try google :)
#1407 [10:28] <Zi> My grandpa gets this error everytime he starts the launcher and he can't login on Minecraft: "<html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: create</center></font></body></html>"
#1408 [10:29] <Zi> He can connect using the browser though.
#1409 [10:30] <Zi> Highlight me if you can help.
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#1411 [10:34] <toticool00> how do i fiz my driver
#1412 [10:34] <toticool00> fiks
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#1415 [10:36] <Wug_> Zi: try disabling any firewalls and trying again, if it works then, you will have to make a firewall exception
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#1419 [10:40] <bobd0le-> why do so many servers have temp maps on at the moment?
#1420 [10:40] <Wug_> because bukkit is unstable
#1421 [10:41] <bobd0le-> when will it be stable?
#1422 [10:41] <Wug_> a few days probably
#1423 [10:42] <Wug_> its always like this when minecraft updates
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#1425 [10:45] <ManuXz> hey , question: if you buy me some premium account.. did the account swtich autmatic to Prem or did i have to answer a email.Likn????
#1426 [10:45] <ManuXz> * if I buy me some
#1427 [10:46] <Wug_> ManuXz: the account becomes premium automatically
#1428 [10:46] <Wug_> if you're having issues, see this:
#1429 [10:47] <Wug_> :payment/stopped
#1430 [10:47] <Wug_> or not.
#1431 [10:47] <Wug_> well, international transactions are blocked by lots of banks and credit card companies
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#1436 [10:55] <ManuXz> thank You Wug_
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#1439 [10:58] <Verlaeufer> hi all
#1440 [10:58] <Verlaeufer> @ all with this problem
#1441 [10:58] <Verlaeufer> can't connect to minecraft.net
#1442 [10:59] <Verlaeufer> watch this
#1443 [10:59] <Verlaeufer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k13Zir39tI&feature=related
#1444 [10:59] <McPlusPlus> "Minecraft how to fix online play problem - YouTube" at www.youtube.com
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#1446 [10:59] <Verlaeufer> it help you
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#1448 [11:02] <mib_3rlggx> minecraft doesnt work
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#1452 [11:08] <Zykatious> hey any ops around?
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#1454 [11:09] <buffathegreatking> im on mac os 10.4.11 and minecraft goes on black screen when i try to open a world.. any suggestions?
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#1459 [11:13] <Timur> !check 84.48.163.228
#1460 [11:13] <Timur> !check 84.48.163.228
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#1463 [11:17] <Wug_> ;quit
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#1466 [11:18] <Wug_> ;join #omegle#,#BeastNode,#minestatus,#wugnet
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#1469 [11:19] <Wug_> ;join #minecrafthelp,#minecrafthelp.breakroom,##WugBot
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#1472 [11:29] <beastin> hello
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#1474 [11:30] <beastin> can anyone help me with my minecarft problem?
#1475 [11:31] <Ketsueki> It is unlikely when you do not provide a one line summary. If you had then someone who happened to know a possible solution might be able to help.
#1476 [11:31] <Ketsueki> ?? ask
#1477 [11:31] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1478 [11:31] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1481 [11:32] <beastin> Well when i try to open minecraft , it says i need to upgrade my video driver and i already did and it still wont work , something about open gl
#1482 [11:33] <Ketsueki> beastin: if windows:
#1483 [11:33] <Ketsueki> ??> beastin win/dxdiag
#1484 [11:33] <VoxelHead> beastin: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1485 [11:33] <VoxelHead> beastin: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1486 [11:33] <Ketsueki> Someone else will have to help you the rest of the way; as I need to poof
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#1489 [11:35] <oldtopman> How do you start the minecraft server in command-line mode?
#1490 [11:35] <beastin> http://pastebin.com/fRautUZC
#1491 [11:35] <McPlusPlus> "------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: - Pastebin.com" at pastebin.com
#1492 [11:35] <beastin> there u go
#1493 [11:36] <Ketsueki> beastin: no
#1494 [11:36] <Ketsueki> er, McPlusPlus no
#1495 [11:36] <Ketsueki> ??> McPlusPlus pastebin
#1496 [11:36] <VoxelHead> McPlusPlus: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1497 [11:37] <oldtopman> Ketsueki: MCPP is a bot.
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#1499 [11:38] <Ketsueki> beastin: you have one of the very old Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family 'GPUs'; This is effectively a 2d framebuffer; and a barely tollerable one at that. I forget the VoxelHead tag to have it tell you the canned response; but Minecraft is a modern game, In -beta- (read less optimizations), and thus has modern requirements. Your computer is simply insufficient.
#1500 [11:39] <oldtopman> ??> beastin retro
#1501 [11:39] <VoxelHead> beastin: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#1502 [11:39] <VoxelHead> beastin: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#1503 [11:39] <oldtopman> Heh
#1504 [11:39] <beastin> Lol its funny , becuase i can play League of legends just fine
#1505 [11:39] <beastin> but yea , my gaming comp burned out on me and im trying to use my old shetty comp.
#1506 [11:40] <beastin> thx for the help
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#1516 [12:08] <sheinker065065> How can I connect to server his address is not numbers are the letters that any different?
#1517 [12:09] <sheinker065065> How can I connect to server his address is not numbers are the letters that any different?
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#1519 [12:10] <spotifykid> hello??
#1520 [12:11] <spotifykid> How do I change my username on Minecraft??
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#1524 [12:21] <sheinker065065> When I connect to the server I see everything in black and I fall down on what to do?
#1525 [12:21] <[L]> Sigh
#1526 [12:21] <[L]> That means either you lack ram or the server does
#1527 [12:22] <sheinker065065> you talk to me?
#1528 [12:23] <[L]> Yes
#1529 [12:24] <sheinker065065> I have plenty of RAM What else could it be?
#1530 [12:27] <sheinker065065> I have plenty of RAM What else could it be??
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#1533 [12:31] <sheinker065065> I have plenty of RAM What else could it be?
#1534 [12:32] <Ketsueki> logic is not strong with this one
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#1538 [12:34] <sheinker065065> helo?
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#1540 [12:38] <sheinker065065> ?
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#1542 [12:41] <chea> can anyone here help?
#1543 [12:41] <chea> :'(
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#1547 [12:49] <sheinker054054> When I start a game server I fall and all black what to do?
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#1549 [12:50] <PanamaJack1995> I updated my Minecraft and it stopped working i had the error screen then back to black i got on to my account just fine it is running the world i selected i went on the support website and still not working
#1550 [12:50] <PanamaJack1995> someone help
#1551 [12:50] <sheinker054054> ?
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#1554 [12:57] <|Kiikun|> woo!!!
#1555 [12:57] * |Kiikun| has just gotten a step up in internet speed :P
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#1556 [13:03] <panitaliemom> Yo
#1557 [13:03] <panitaliemom> Hello? lol
#1558 [13:04] <|Kiikun|> ?? ask
#1559 [13:04] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1560 [13:04] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1561 [13:05] <panitaliemom> Why is the website down for maintenance?
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#1564 [13:07] <|Kiikun|> panitaliemom: its up. and its been getting updated over the past week
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#1567 [13:07] <panitaliemom> Why is it taking so long for me to get a e-mail because I purchased the game?
#1568 [13:08] <Sjeng> i just bought the game but it's stuck at 'downloading packages' , is that a known issue?
#1569 [13:08] <|Kiikun|> ?? payment
#1570 [13:08] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
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#1572 [13:08] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1573 [13:08] <|Kiikun|> Sjeng: first, you on windows?
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#1575 [13:08] <Sjeng> windows 7
#1576 [13:09] <|Kiikun|> Sjeng: your windows username have an ! or other character in it?
#1577 [13:09] <Sjeng> nope
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#1579 [13:09] <morton> hello, i bought mc yesterday, but when i try to log in it says : can't connect to minecraft.net but i can connect via the browser
#1580 [13:09] <|Kiikun|> ??> Sjeng java/version
#1581 [13:09] <VoxelHead> Sjeng: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1582 [13:09] <VoxelHead> Sjeng: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1583 [13:10] <|Kiikun|> morton: just keep clicking try again.
#1584 [13:10] <guest-746528-72046> First off, how do I change my nick? :)
#1585 [13:10] <Sjeng> Your Java version: Version 6 Update 26
#1586 [13:10] <guest-746528-72046> Hello World*
#1587 [13:10] <guest-746528-72046> _)
#1588 [13:10] <|Kiikun|> Sjeng: update java first.
#1589 [13:10] <morton> okey
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#1591 [13:10] <hipy> hi, major problems on my server
#1592 [13:10] <hipy> 2011-06-12 19:02:37 [INFO] Chunk file at 26,69 is in the wrong location; relocating. (Expected 26, 69, got 15, 67
#1593 [13:10] <hipy> that errors is flowing in every milisecond
#1594 [13:10] <|Kiikun|> guest-746528-72046: /nick ILikeNotBeingAGust
#1595 [13:11] <GamleErik> Thanks alot :)
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#1597 [13:11] <Sjeng> updating java, i need to close browser. i'll be back soon either for more help or to thank you guys ;)
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#1599 [13:11] <|Kiikun|> Sjeng: ok :D
#1600 [13:12] <morton> hello, i bought mc yesterday, but when i try to log in it says : can't connect to minecraft.net but i can connect via the browser
#1601 [13:12] <GamleErik> I'm curious to know if anyone here would be interested in helping me setting up a server with my friend :) I need a few mods to get it running the way I want to, and I'm very new to hosting MC servers with mods...
#1602 [13:12] <|Kiikun|> ??> GamleErik smp/serversetup
#1603 [13:12] <VoxelHead> GamleErik: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#1604 [13:12] <VoxelHead> GamleErik: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1605 [13:13] <Guest27433> jag behöver hjälp med out of memory bug
#1606 [13:13] <GamleErik> Morton, maybe Minecraft.exe is blocked by your firewall
#1607 [13:13] <morton> okey ill check
#1608 [13:13] <|Kiikun|> GamleErik: for modded servers, you need to go to the help channel of the server makers. #bukkit is my personal choice of server :P
#1609 [13:13] <GamleErik> Aight, been looking a little on Bukkit :)
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#1611 [13:13] <|Kiikun|> Sjeng: still stuck?
#1612 [13:13] <Sjeng> yup :(
#1613 [13:14] <|Kiikun|> Sjeng: ok.. next is video drivers. know what kind of video card you have?
#1614 [13:14] <Sjeng> i need to update the drivers for that too?
#1615 [13:15] <|Kiikun|> Sjeng: its one of the known things that could cause it
#1616 [13:15] <Sjeng> would be odd cause i played the free version before without problems... but i'll try
#1617 [13:15] <GamleErik> So before I head onwards, can any of you confirm or deconfirm if the following things are possible by any allready written mods? To separate spawnpoints for 2 different teams (it's a PvP server, Defend/Attack style) and make PvP only enabled on the hostile team?
#1618 [13:16] <|Kiikun|> Sjeng: after that is trying a forceupdate. you can try the forceupdate first if you want
#1619 [13:16] <morton> my firewall is off and i still cant connect to minecraft.net
#1620 [13:16] <Sjeng> tried that already
#1621 [13:17] <|Kiikun|> Sjeng: ok.. then if video drivers dont work im going to have you manually delete the /bin and /resources folders incase its a file-access issue.
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#1623 [13:17] <Sjeng> 100 Mb driver lol
#1624 [13:17] <Sjeng> already deleted those folders earlier too ;)
#1625 [13:17] <|Kiikun|> o.o;;; nvidia?
#1626 [13:17] <Sjeng> no ati
#1627 [13:17] <|Kiikun|> ah.
#1628 [13:17] <|Kiikun|> good card atleast :3
#1629 [13:18] <|Kiikun|> ok.. then im stumped.. you might have to hang around for one of the gurus.
#1630 [13:18] <Sjeng> hehehe i've always had geforce before but switched to radeon because it was a bit cheaper and tested better
#1631 [13:18] <Sjeng> could it be that the download server is too busy maybe?
#1632 [13:18] <|Kiikun|> possibly... but i couldnt b sure
#1633 [13:19] <Sjeng> well maybe the driver update will fix it, haven't updated in 6 months :)
#1634 [13:19] <morton> hello, i bought mc yesterday, but when i try to log in it says : can't connect to minecraft.net but i can connect via the browser, i turned off my firewall wotiout results
#1635 [13:19] <morton> without*
#1636 [13:20] <|Kiikun|> morton: you been able to connect at all before with this computer?
#1637 [13:20] <morton> no i havent
#1638 [13:20] <|Kiikun|> morton: you on windows?
#1639 [13:20] <morton> yep, xp
#1640 [13:21] <|Kiikun|> morton: and your windows username has an ! or other character in it, doesnt it/
#1641 [13:21] <morton> only "94"
#1642 [13:21] <|Kiikun|> "94" or 94
#1643 [13:21] <morton> 94
#1644 [13:21] <Sjeng> :( it's still stuck
#1645 [13:23] <Sjeng> the game creates the .minecraft folder in my %appdata% dir and then it creates the bin subfoler. in the bin subfolder there's a file called 'version' and in the main folder there's a file called 'lastlogin' and that's it
#1646 [13:23] <|Kiikun|> morton: your computer time correct?
#1647 [13:24] <morton> yes, i tried that before
#1648 [13:24] <|Kiikun|> Sjeng: i KNOW theres something im missing :/ sorry.. at the moment im stumped
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#1650 [13:25] <Sjeng> it's ok, you're very helpful :)
#1651 [13:25] <|Kiikun|> ?? error/cantconnect
#1652 [13:25] <VoxelHead> error/cantconnect: Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#1653 [13:25] <VoxelHead> error/cantconnect: This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#1654 [13:26] <Sjeng> ?? downloading
#1655 [13:26] <Sjeng> :P
#1656 [13:26] <|Kiikun|> morton: try updating or completely reinstalling java?
#1657 [13:26] <|Kiikun|> ??>> Sjeng index
#1658 [13:26] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1659 [13:26] <Sjeng> ?? index
#1660 [13:26] <morton> okey ill try that immediatly! thanks :)
#1661 [13:27] <Sjeng> i am wondering, are you guys doing this for free or are you on a payroll?
#1662 [13:28] <|Kiikun|> were community-run :P
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#1665 [13:28] <guest-0-53119> is the right irc to ask for help regarding minecraft?
#1666 [13:28] <Sjeng> sweet, and notch is a member of that community i assume?
#1667 [13:28] <|Kiikun|> if we were on a payroll, there would probably be some spreadsheet we folowed or something
#1668 [13:29] <Acid20> Hey. Is there any gamemaster? got an important problem
#1669 [13:29] <|Kiikun|> Acid20: gamemaster? um... you mean a server admin?
#1670 [13:29] <Sjeng> does the game modify any registry settings?
#1671 [13:29] <guest-0-53119> my friend keeps falling into space when he logs into a server, at only started as of 1.8.1
#1672 [13:30] <|Kiikun|> Sjeng: i dont believe it does. since its all java-contained.
#1673 [13:30] <Acid20> yes i mean a server admin
#1674 [13:30] <Acid20> btw: how to privat chat?
#1675 [13:30] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-53119: thats called a chunk load error. i usually see that till the server send the chunk data :P
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#1677 [13:31] <|Kiikun|> Acid20: dont pm unless asked. and you have to find out who runs the server you play on
#1678 [13:31] <guest-0-53119> how do we prevent it?
#1679 [13:31] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-53119: faster internet connection for the server? :D specificly upload speed
#1680 [13:31] <Acid20> i got a general problem
#1681 [13:31] <guest-0-53119> the server has 30/30mb
#1682 [13:31] <Acid20> i cannot login. Says: too many failed logins
#1683 [13:31] <Acid20> but that is not true
#1684 [13:32] <Acid20> before 1.8 update it worked perfectly
#1685 [13:32] <Sjeng> well guys i'll have to take off. thanks for the help so far. i'll be back if the problem remains
#1686 [13:32] <Sjeng> cya
#1687 [13:32] <guest-0-53119> and the rest of us joining it doesn't have any problems
#1688 [13:32] <|Kiikun|> Acid20: 'Login Throttled'? that measn the login server has temporarilly locked your account to prevent hacking. wait 5 minutes
#1689 [13:32] <Acid20> its locked for about 3-4 days right now
#1690 [13:33] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-53119: ok then.. im not sure. maybe his download speed is just that bad?
#1691 [13:33] <Acid20> i tried it every day
#1692 [13:33] <|Kiikun|> ?? accounts
#1693 [13:33] <VoxelHead> accounts: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1694 [13:33] <Acid20> thx @ VoxelHead
#1695 [13:33] <|Kiikun|> Acid20: youre welcome :P
#1696 [13:35] <Acid20> @ Kiikun: support page does not answer my problems. Is there a general or special login-problem support - email?
#1697 [13:36] <|Kiikun|> the only email addresses i know of have weeks backlog. check under account > hacked
#1698 [13:37] <Acid20> k. So even if my account was not hacked, but i could have been, ill have to take this way, to get my locked acc back?
#1699 [13:37] <Acid20> *but it could ...
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#1701 [13:38] <|Kiikun|> wug: acid's account is stuck locked, any ideas?
#1702 [13:39] <Wug> "stuck locked"?
#1703 [13:39] <Acid20> permanently locked ^^'
#1704 [13:39] <|Kiikun|> throttled and wont unthrottle
#1705 [13:39] <Wug> whats the account name
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#1707 [13:40] <Wug> and how long have you waited
#1708 [13:40] <Acid20> had this problems with the new launcher from the beginning. Then tried an old launcher (without the news page -> that worked until the update came out)
#1709 [13:40] <Acid20> about 3-5 days
#1710 [13:40] <Acid20> Acc name: Acid20
#1711 [13:41] <Acid20> okay : acc does not work since the update
#1712 [13:41] <Wug> thats odd
#1713 [13:41] <Acid20> okay : acc does not work since the update 1.8
#1714 [13:41] <Wug> can you log into the website
#1715 [13:41] <Acid20> but i can login on the website
#1716 [13:41] <Wug> check firewalls?
#1717 [13:41] <Acid20> hmm :/ because of the new update?
#1718 [13:42] <Wug> no, because it never worked with the new launcher you said
#1719 [13:42] <Wug> the two work in a slightly different way
#1720 [13:42] <Wug> the old one, afaik, no longer works
#1721 [13:42] <Acid20> hmm ... i understand. Btw: now the old and new launcher dont work ... checking now my firewall
#1722 [13:43] <Acid20> deactivated firewall
#1723 [13:43] <Acid20> does not work either
#1724 [13:44] <Acid20> too many failed logins
#1725 [13:44] <Wug> redownload the launcher?
#1726 [13:44] <Acid20> 2 times
#1727 [13:44] <Wug> what version of java do you have
#1728 [13:45] <Acid20> mom ... how to look that up with cmd?
#1729 [13:45] <Acid20> java -v?
#1730 [13:45] <Wug> :java/version/cmd
#1731 [13:45] <WugBot> java/version/cmd: Press WIN+R. In the box that appears, enter 'cmd' and hit enter. In the black command prompt window, type the following command: "java -version > file.txt && file.txt". Notepad will open with java's version info. Copy to pastebin, click submit, and send us the link you are sent to.
#1732 [13:46] <Acid20> omg -.-' windows 7 ...
#1733 [13:46] <Acid20> java is either spelled wrong or could not be found
#1734 [13:46] <Acid20> xD but i have java on this pc, cause i played 1.7.3
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#1736 [13:47] <Acid20> jre 1.6.0_22
#1737 [13:48] <mib_iwmsmo> I'm trying to find some help on testing a client server I downloaded last night. I can log on via typing localhost but how can I get someone to test it externally from another IP? Is there a script or do I need to ask someone to direct connect?
#1738 [13:48] <|Kiikun|> mib_iwmsmo is it running?
#1739 [13:49] <mib_iwmsmo> Yes and no errors, just want to know if my firewall or Nat firewall aren't blocking it. Also I want to know if it shows up on some listing some place or if I need to add it to a public listing.
#1740 [13:49] <|Kiikun|> i conencted fine... and spawns underwater :/
#1741 [13:49] <|Kiikun|> i dont think theres an automatic server list for 1.8 yet
#1742 [13:49] <Acid20> @ kiikun: you connected with my acc?
#1743 [13:49] <Acid20> ahh^^ sry..
#1744 [13:49] <|Kiikun|> Acid20: no i connected to mib's server
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#1746 [13:50] <mib_iwmsmo> Can I ask someone to try and connect to test it?
#1747 [13:50] <Acid20> sry for that >.<
#1748 [13:50] <|Kiikun|> mib_iwmsmo: also.. enderman near spawn :P
#1749 [13:50] <mib_iwmsmo> Also I noticed enderman don't chase you on the server mode like it does on single player.
#1750 [13:50] <|Kiikun|> mib_iwmsmo: [13:49] <+|Kiikun|> i conencted fine... and spawns underwater :/
#1751 [13:51] <mib_iwmsmo> How did you connect? I never gave adderss...
#1752 [13:51] <|Kiikun|> !check 97.92.168.40
#1753 [13:51] <|Kiikun|> i DNSed you :P
#1754 [13:51] <mib_iwmsmo> oh...
#1755 [13:51] <|Kiikun|> you said localhost so that means your computer is running it
#1756 [13:51] <mib_iwmsmo> ture...
#1757 [13:51] <Acid20> @ Wug: any ideas left to help me? >.>
#1758 [13:51] <mib_iwmsmo> true*
#1759 [13:52] <mib_iwmsmo> Is there a way to change the spawn point?
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#1761 [13:52] <Wug> Acid20: try updating
#1762 [13:52] <Wug> :j
#1763 [13:52] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#1764 [13:52] <Wug> soz was afk
#1765 [13:52] <Acid20> thx... no problem
#1766 [13:53] * |Kiikun| gets food then prepares to make calls!
#1766 [13:53] * |Kiikun| afkfab
#1766 [13:53] <mib_iwmsmo> Ok so is there a list I need to add it too sense there isn't an automatic one?
#1767 [13:53] <|Kiikun|> ??> mib_iwmsmo smp/servers
#1768 [13:53] <VoxelHead> mib_iwmsmo: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1769 [13:53] <VoxelHead> mib_iwmsmo: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#1771 [13:54] <Acid20> Wug: is there a way to get it working by removing some files in the .minecraft dir?
#1772 [13:55] <Wug> Acid20: thats unlikely to help
#1773 [13:55] <Wug> since they're downloaded after login
#1774 [13:55] <Acid20> @ Wug: updated. Started. Says: too many failed logins >.<
#1775 [13:56] <Acid20> can u look up the db?
#1776 [13:56] <Wug> we're not staff so no
#1777 [13:56] <Acid20> ahh okay ^^
#1778 [13:56] <Wug> I sent you a pm
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#1780 [13:57] <Acid20> hhm... any chance to get contact to a staff member?
#1781 [13:58] <Wug> I can but I want to exhaust every other option first
#1782 [13:58] <mib_iwmsmo> geez, someone joined my server and lit fires everywhere....
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#1784 [14:00] <DrWurstpeter> Hello?
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#1786 [14:01] <momagain> I've tried to buy minecraft several times, but the site always declines my card. I called my bank and there's nothing on their end that's holding it up
#1787 [14:01] <DrWurstpeter> Anybody there?
#1788 [14:01] <DrWurstpeter> Oh.
#1789 [14:02] <momagain> And they said several people have called to say they can't buy minecraft!
#1790 [14:02] <momagain> which I find amusing
#1791 [14:02] <momagain> but it must be with the minecraft end of things
#1792 [14:02] <momagain> and there's no way to contact them
#1793 [14:02] <momagain> on the site
#1794 [14:02] <momagain> to say, hey I want to buy it!
#1795 [14:02] <momagain> what should I do?
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#1798 [14:04] <Acid20> okay folks: a friend of mine tried to login with my acc data: it says: too many failed logins. NOW: Any ideas left?
#1799 [14:06] <DrWurstpeter> A friend of mine accidently put a comma in his email adress instead of a dot. Worked fine before 1.8, but now he's unable to sign in.
#1800 [14:06] <DrWurstpeter> So he's unable to play MC now.
#1801 [14:06] <DrWurstpeter> Anything he can do?
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#1806 [14:13] <momagain> having problems buying minecraft
#1807 [14:13] <momagain> anyone there?
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#1809 [14:15] <sheinker054054> When I start a game server I fall and all black what to do?
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#1812 [14:15] <sheinker054054> helo/
#1813 [14:16] <hipy> hi, when i place blocks they go slower then in 1.7.3. I am asking this for days now and really want an awnser, is this a bug? :(
#1814 [14:18] <sheinker054054> i dont know
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#1816 [14:18] <sheinker054054> you can help?
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#1818 [14:19] <mib_k78oo8> hi i just downloaded minecraft on mac os10.7
#1819 [14:19] <mib_k78oo8> moved it to apps and clicked it but it keeps blinking (the white dot beside)
#1820 [14:19] <mib_k78oo8> then when it stops, i click the app and it just shuts down
#1821 [14:19] <mib_k78oo8> help help
#1822 [14:20] <hipy> does anyone know?..
#1823 [14:21] <madalynn> Hi Ive been trying to run minecraft on browser since the 1.8 update, it's fine until just before the mojang title screen it the screen goes a dark grey colour it was. before the update it worked perfectly
#1824 [14:22] <Wug> ;memo send kealper cool. can I test it? is there a way to ask what account you're using?
#1825 [14:22] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to kealper when next he's active.
#1826 [14:23] <Wug> AG_Scott: uthere
#1827 [14:23] <AG_Scott> busy!
#1828 [14:23] <Kealper> asdf
#1829 [14:23] <Kealper> wugbot works D:
#1830 [14:23] <Kealper> i mean....i'm afk
#1831 [14:27] <madalynn> any body know? it was working fine after update just all of sudden this gray screen anybody know?
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#1834 [14:31] <madalynn> i'd help you...
#1835 [14:34] <madalynn> allllllllllllllllllll BY MY SELF don't WANNA BE ALLLL SELLLLLLLFFFFFFFFF ANYMORE
#1836 [14:35] <Wug> madalynn: sometimes idling is good for you
#1837 [14:35] <Wug> try updating java
#1838 [14:35] <Wug> and by that I mean reinstall minecraft first
#1839 [14:35] <madalynn> nyeH?
#1840 [14:35] <Wug> :win/reinst/bat
#1841 [14:35] <madalynn> done that
#1842 [14:35] <Wug> because I bet its a texture pack thing
#1843 [14:35] <Wug> did you have any hd texture packs before the update
#1844 [14:36] <madalynn> nope i don't thhink did
#1845 [14:36] <madalynn> i did have another texture pack though
#1846 [14:36] <Wug> did you have any regular texture packs?
#1847 [14:36] <madalynn> but it wasn't HD
#1848 [14:36] <Wug> you did. try removing it
#1849 [14:37] <madalynn> well i deleted the whole folder minus the saves first
#1850 [14:37] <madalynn> so i don't know wrther that would delete the texture pack?
#1851 [14:37] <Wug> do me a favor, download and run minecraft with this
#1852 [14:38] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#1853 [14:38] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1854 [14:38] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#1855 [14:38] <Wug> just double click to open
#1856 [14:39] <madalynn> well usually the desktop launcher doesn't work for me
#1857 [14:39] <Wug> try it anyway
#1858 [14:39] <Wug> it saves an error log
#1859 [14:40] <madalynn> yeah but i play it browser
#1860 [14:40] <Acid20> ;memo send wug Testing memo....
#1861 [14:40] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to wug when next he's active.
#1862 [14:40] <Wug> please just do it, it will tell us what's wrong
#1863 [14:41] <madalynn> so how do i get the log to you?
#1864 [14:42] <madalynn> paste bin?
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#1866 [14:44] <mib_1cm7ig> help anybody
#1867 [14:45] <madalynn> http://mibpaste.com/E0OMPb
#1868 [14:46] <Wug> looks like a graphics driver issue
#1869 [14:46] <Wug> madalynn: check if there are updates available for your graphics drives
#1870 [14:46] <madalynn> well i updated the drivers a month or two
#1871 [14:47] <Wug> well
#1872 [14:47] <Wug> a lot of people have been having issues with minecraft lately because of graphical incompatibilities
#1873 [14:47] <madalynn> still no luck?
#1874 [14:47] <SweCrow> Police arrested 2 kids yesterday: 1 was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the one off.
#1875 [14:47] <madalynn> and i lost adblock as a result
#1876 [14:48] <Wug> and I'm pretty sure that minecraft is going to revert back to opengl 1.2 because of the issues
#1877 [14:48] <Wug> this will supposedly happen in 1.9
#1878 [14:48] <madalynn> so does that mean i'm gonna be waiting a month or two just to play?
#1879 [14:49] <madalynn> suposing the update comes in around november?
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#1882 [14:52] <Wug> madalynn: its a rather big issue so hopefully it wont be that long
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#1886 [14:58] <Diablothein> Kealper! You here?
#1887 [15:00] <Kealper> D:
#1888 [15:01] <madalynn> thanks anyways
#1889 [15:02] * Wug sqozz's kealper
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#1892 [15:09] <ExodusC> Hey- anyone happen to be using the script to run the minecraft server in the background on a linux distro? The one on MinecraftWIki
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#1901 [15:27] <mib_3a93e5> Help, my minecraft says this when I run it :/
#1902 [15:28] <mib_3a93e5> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 19/09/11 20:27 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.7.0, Or
#1903 [15:28] <mib_3a93e5> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 19/09/11 20:27 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.7.0, Or
#1904 [15:29] <hipy> lmao i keep catching pigs etc in minecarts, its a bug?
#1905 [15:29] <mib_3a93e5> I made a giant sand castle :P
#1906 [15:30] <mib_3a93e5> ...
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#1911 [15:37] <hipy> Hi a friend of mine keeps crashing on my server, he gets the error ran out of ram, he has no mods. has 4gig ram and plays on windows
#1912 [15:37] <hipy> he only has it on my server
#1913 [15:38] <JohnEBH> hipy- Is he using a 64bit OS?
#1914 [15:38] <Wug> does he teleport a lot
#1915 [15:38] <murdrums> your server us probably out of ram and booting him off
#1916 [15:38] <murdrums> is*
#1917 [15:38] <Wug> its probably what JohnEBH said
#1918 [15:38] <Wug> if you teleport around a lot, it tends to use memory faster
#1919 [15:39] <murdrums> JohnEBH, i use 64 bit OS, mc runw fine on ssp and smp
#1920 [15:39] <hipy> murdrums, strange i am playing with 8 players and he is the only one who gets booted of
#1921 [15:39] <hipy> everyday
#1922 [15:39] <JohnEBH> murdrums- I'm implying if he isn't he should, and that if he does that he makes sure he has 64bit java
#1923 [15:39] <Wug> murdrums: yeah, we know. his issues it hes probably not on a 64 bit os
#1924 [15:39] <JohnEBH> murdrums- I never said 64bit was a problem
#1925 [15:39] <hipy> JohnEBH, he is using 32bit, but claims that it happens also on 64bit
#1926 [15:39] <Wug> his issue is*
#1927 [15:40] <JohnEBH> hipy- With 4GB he should be using 64bit
#1928 [15:40] <Wug> have him remove 32 bit java
#1929 [15:40] <murdrums> mc ran fine when i used a 32 bit OS
#1930 [15:40] <murdrums> possibly better with 32 bit
#1931 [15:40] <Wug> murdrums: how long ago was that
#1932 [15:40] * JohnEBH lols ^
#1932 [15:40] <Wug> 1.4?
#1933 [15:40] <murdrums> 3 month?
#1934 [15:41] <Wug> yeah
#1935 [15:41] <Wug> before 1.7 to be sure
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#1937 [15:42] <hipy> is ther ea fix?
#1938 [15:42] <hipy> he did everything
#1939 [15:42] <hipy> reinstalled java
#1940 [15:42] <hipy> redownload mc
#1941 [15:42] <hipy> removed .minecraft
#1942 [15:42] <Boreeas> Actaully, am I the only one who thinks that MC runs smoother with 1.8 than it did with 1.7?
#1943 [15:42] <Boreeas> hipy: No spam
#1944 [15:42] <Boreeas> hipy: Enter is not punctuation
#1945 [15:43] <Wug> hipy: he probably has 32 bit java installed
#1946 [15:43] <Wug> he probably reinstalled it too
#1947 [15:43] <JohnEBH> Boreeas- They say it's more CPU dependent in 1.8 than 1.7. 1.7 uses more RAM =D
#1948 [15:43] <Boreeas> Ah, I noticed that
#1949 [15:43] <Wug> JohnEBH: thats kind of crap, its still a horrible ram hod
#1950 [15:43] <Wug> hog*
#1951 [15:43] * JohnEBH blames java
#1951 [15:43] <Boreeas> CPU is up to 50 % since 1.8
#1952 [15:43] <hipy> Wug, but he has an 32bit os, so why not use 32bit java?:p
#1953 [15:44] <Wug> lol hipy if he has a 32 bit os then he hasnt tried 64 bit java because its impossible for him to
#1954 [15:44] <JohnEBH> Phail
#1955 [15:44] <Wug> hes stuck with it as it is
#1956 [15:44] <Wug> unless he can use a 64 bit os with 64 bit java
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#1958 [15:46] <Wug> bbl
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#1961 [15:51] <mib_b8hy3y> hey guts
#1962 [15:51] <mib_b8hy3y> guys
#1963 [15:52] <dudeguy> does anyone know how to restore minecraft
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#1965 [15:52] <dudeguy> does anybody???
#1966 [15:52] <peru_> restore?
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#1968 [15:53] <dudeguy> like restore toa n earlier date
#1969 [15:53] <peru_> if you make backup, its easy, just replace bin folder with earlier version
#1970 [15:53] <dudeguy> cuz i treid getting single player commands and i had to restart my minecraft can i restore it
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#1973 [15:56] <hipy> Wug, you cant tell me that he needs 64bit, since 3gb ram is not enough to play minecraft
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#1984 [16:19] <DewiE5> I have bought minecraft, and had several problems with usernames, these problems have now been solved but unfortunately when I tried to join my friends server today it wouldnt work, a couple of times it said connection refused, I have tried several times and now it just keeps on saying operation timed out
#1985 [16:19] <DewiE5> Please help!
#1986 [16:20] <|Kiikun|> DewiE5: ip for the server?
#1987 [16:20] <mariettagecko> DewiE5: that sounds like there may be a problem with the address you're using to try to connect.
#1988 [16:20] <mariettagecko> DewiE5: have you verified you're trying to connect to the correct IP/hostname?
#1989 [16:21] <morton> is 1.8 crashing constantly for anyone else?
#1990 [16:21] <DewiE5> yes
#1991 [16:21] <|Kiikun|> morton: only the prerelease was for me
#1992 [16:21] <|Kiikun|> DewiE5: again, whats the server ip?
#1993 [16:21] <DewiE5> it is definetely correct information
#1994 [16:21] <mariettagecko> I haven't had much in the way of trouble, but one of my friends keeps crashing out, ostensibly due to too little memory.
#1995 [16:22] <DewiE5> it is 5.229.87.173
#1996 [16:22] <mariettagecko> Although, my server keeps crashing, although usually (apparently) due to something related to the shift-click movement bug.
#1997 [16:22] <|Kiikun|> DewiE5: thats a hamachi ip. you have to be connected to him qwith hamachi
#1998 [16:23] <|Kiikun|> ALSO!!!
#1999 [16:23] <|Kiikun|> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2000 [16:23] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2001 [16:23] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
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#2004 [16:24] <DewiE5> i am connected on hamachi! and then I go on multiplayer and type that IP
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#2006 [16:25] <DewiE5> is that what I should be doing?
#2007 [16:26] <DewiE5> thats what the tutorials I have watched have told me
#2008 [16:26] <mariettagecko> DewiE5: Given the block of text up there, it sounds like maybe you need to be talking to Hamachi or your friend for assistance with the issue you are having.
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#2011 [16:27] <DewiE5> but hamachi is connecting fine whilst it seems minecraft wont connect!
#2012 [16:27] <mariettagecko> DewiE5: Unfortunately, I am unfamiliar with Hamachi, and am thus completely unable to assist with anything related to it.
#2013 [16:28] <DewiE5> ah well thanks anyway!
#2014 [16:28] <DewiE5> can anyone else help?
#2015 [16:28] <mariettagecko> To say nothing of the fact that this channel isn't assisting with issues related to Hamachi due to the way they are squatting on IPs.
#2016 [16:29] <DewiE5> well thanks for everyones help
#2017 [16:29] <mariettagecko> from a networking standpoint, it sounds to me like the problem is likely to be related to bad IP or network routing.
#2018 [16:29] <mariettagecko> Which would necessarily indicate a discussion with your friend or Hamachi are in order.
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#2021 [16:31] <Trel> ugh, is there any way in long dark areas to not have it show the sun/moon/stars instead of fog when view distance is set to normal?
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#2023 [16:36] <mariettagecko> Trel, I haven't experienced that particular issue, so I'm not sure how to answer it.
#2024 [16:39] <Trel> mariettagecko: I can give you a save that will show it
#2025 [16:39] <|Kiikun|> Trel: you can set the fog shorter so that it always blocks the skybox.
#2026 [16:40] <Trel> That's not really useful though, I want it at that distance. This is something new to 1.8
#2027 [16:41] <Trel> 4.8mb world zipped, uploading it to media fire. (it's in creative, so just fly down the stairs, go through the doorway, and look ahead, you'll see the sky, but if you keep going, you'll find you're completely enclosed
#2028 [16:41] <Trel> as you get closer the sky vanishes and it's a wall
#2029 [16:42] <Trel> http://www.mediafire.com/?8d7nz7lf512m50b
#2030 [16:42] <Trel> That's the link
#2031 [16:42] <|Kiikun|> Trel: that sounds more like the chunk hasnt loaded yet until you approach it.
#2032 [16:42] <Trel> |Kiikun|: if you back away, you can watch the sky appear and disappear
#2033 [16:45] <Ketsueki> Trel: that sounds like a room large enough that the chunk is out of bound of your viewing range.
#2034 [16:45] <Ketsueki> What is your viewing range set to? Tiny?
#2035 [16:46] <Trel> Ketsueki: that being the case, wouldn't view distance "Normal" fog before that happened
#2036 [16:46] <Trel> (I have it on normal)
#2037 [16:46] <Trel> anything less fogs in time
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#2039 [16:46] <|Kiikun|> im checking it out
#2040 [16:46] <TheNytangel> OMG
#2041 [16:46] <Ketsueki> I think fog is now disabled? IDR
#2042 [16:46] <|Kiikun|> hi hyt
#2043 [16:46] <TheNytangel> Youtube is going to make me ragequit so bad..
#2044 [16:46] <Ketsueki> I have 1GB of graphics ram and a 6850 to toss at the problem so...
#2045 [16:47] <Trel> Ketsueki: it's not disabled, you have to go in options to change it, F no longer does
#2046 [16:47] <TheNytangel> Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid slow internet
#2047 [16:47] <Ketsueki> Trel: ah yeah that's what I was thinking of
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#2052 [16:48] <Fragmaster> Hello forum!
#2053 [16:48] <|Kiikun|> Trel: your construct is HUGE! the far spot really doesnt even render on FAR
#2054 [16:48] <|Kiikun|> Fragmaster: this an irc channel, not a forum :P
#2055 [16:49] <Fragmaster> lul, you know what I mean
#2056 [16:50] <Trel> |Kiikun| I know, I am wondering why on normal though, the fog doesn't come before the render cuts off
#2057 [16:50] <Ketsueki> |Kiikun|: Spectacular; Trel must have created a deathstar
#2058 [16:50] <Trel> Ketsueki lol no
#2059 [16:50] <Ketsueki> Trel: creative; go up to the corner you see non-rezed. Look back at the ground.
#2060 [16:51] <Ketsueki> Do you see fog where you were?
#2061 [16:51] <|Kiikun|> Trel: you probably reset it.. hit f3+f once
#2062 [16:51] <Fragmaster> anywho... I'm having trouble signing into MineCraft on my PC. There's no issue logging on for the in-browser version, but minecraft client always says "Login failed"
#2063 [16:51] <Ketsueki> |Kiikun|: disabled it; 'reset' a setting (it disabled) is @.@
#2064 [16:52] <Trel> F no longer toggles it
#2065 [16:52] <Thrae> Fragmaster: Sounds like you have the old launcher. Grab the latest one from the website.
#2066 [16:52] <Fragmaster> kay, I'll try that
#2067 [16:52] <Trel> Far, behaves as expected, Normal (fog doesn't quite go before render cuts off), Short (fog is correct, but too much for my tastes), Tiny (lawl hangover)
#2068 [16:53] <|Kiikun|> Ketsueki: fog got moved from f to f3+f
#2069 [16:53] <Trel> f3+f doesn't do anything
#2070 [16:53] <Trel> (well f3 brings up the info thing)
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#2072 [16:54] <Trel> unless I have to press at same time?
#2073 [16:54] <Trel> nvm I do
#2074 [16:54] <Ketsueki> Trel: you can only toggle fog on/off in 'info' (debug) mode
#2075 [16:54] <Ketsueki> Wait, it's at the same time?
#2076 [16:54] <Ketsueki> crazy
#2077 [16:54] <Trel> Still, what I said before: Far, behaves as expected, Normal (fog doesn't quite go before render cuts off), Short (fog is correct, but too much for my tastes), Tiny (lawl hangover)
#2078 [16:54] <Ketsueki> I too read that differently sinec F3 was already a covered mode
#2079 [16:54] <Ketsueki> What the hell is notch thinking?
#2080 [16:55] <|Kiikun|> that wasnt notch :P it was jeb
#2081 [16:55] <|Kiikun|> im fairly sure atleast.
#2082 [16:55] <Fragmaster> problem solved. thanks Kiikun
#2083 [16:56] <|Kiikun|> o.o;; huh?
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#2085 [16:56] <|Kiikun|> oh.. and apparently f3+f alters render distance.. not fog distance
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#2087 [16:58] <Trel> |Kiikun| then where's fog distance?
#2088 [16:58] <Trel> f3+f is doing for me what F used to
#2089 [16:58] <|Kiikun|> trell... your construct is over 250 long ~.~
#2090 [16:59] <Trel> is that bad?
#2091 [16:59] * |Kiikun| is looking up how far the world renders
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#2094 [17:04] <mib_70by0q> hello
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#2097 [17:04] <|Kiikun|> trel: i know things cant spawn past 144 blocks from player.. and that they only spawn in loaded chunks... im fairly sure your building is far larger than what the game loads normally
#2098 [17:05] <|Kiikun|> Trel: the fog IS there, just its not heavy enough to block the sky.
#2099 [17:05] <tuX> hi i got a question: I host a server on my computer and since today as soon as I myself join the server it start lagging like shit; i cant even move or do anything (so can't the others)? any1 knows this bug and knows what to do?
#2100 [17:05] <tuX> i'm on Ubuntu 11.04 Java 2.26 or so?
#2101 [17:05] * |Kiikun| has to get to class
#2101 [17:06] <tuX> *6.26
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#2103 [17:07] <tuX> any1 there?
#2104 [17:09] <Fragmaster> If I take a seed number to a world from way back in 1.7 and generated a new world with that seed number, would the new world be exactly the same as it was generated in 1.7? Would the topography be the same, but new features, such as ravines and abandoned mineshafts, be added?
#2105 [17:10] <[z]> Fragmaster: One way to find out
#2106 [17:10] <Fragmaster> LOL, silly me
#2107 [17:10] <[z]> But I'll guess no, as the terrain generation has been changed too
#2108 [17:10] <Fragmaster> hmm... I'll go test it and see.
#2109 [17:10] <Havvy> No
#2110 [17:11] <Havvy> The world gen was completely changed.
#2111 [17:11] <tuX> any1 heard about the server lag i just told you about :(?
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#2113 [17:13] <Fragmaster> Oh...
#2114 [17:14] <Fragmaster> What about updating a 1.8 pre-release seed to a 1.8.1 world?
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#2117 [17:14] <adamkex> is there anyway to copy maps in multiplayer?
#2118 [17:15] <tuX> copy the directory
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#2120 [17:15] <tuX> its in the server folder
#2121 [17:15] <Fragmaster> I think the only difference between a 1.8 pre-release version and a 1.8.1 version is the number of fortresses that will spawn (1 vs 3)
#2122 [17:15] <mib_gqxgxi> can someone help
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#2124 [17:17] <mib_gqxgxi> my minecraf starts to lag after a minit or 2 and then my computer lags and i have 1.8.1 and it lag on 1.7
#2125 [17:18] <mib_gqxgxi> sny one
#2126 [17:19] <mib_gqxgxi> fragmaster
#2127 [17:19] <Fragmaster> It used to lag on 1.7?
#2128 [17:19] <mib_gqxgxi> and now 1.8
#2129 [17:19] <mib_gqxgxi> can you help
#2130 [17:19] <Fragmaster> but it didn't lag in the versions between?
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#2132 [17:20] <mib_gqxgxi> what version in bewtwen
#2133 [17:20] <mib_gqxgxi> between
#2134 [17:20] <adamkex> tuX: i meant maps, like the item
#2135 [17:20] <tuX> yo can always insert the map_0
#2136 [17:20] <mib_gqxgxi> fragmaster?
#2137 [17:20] <tuX> duno if you can insert other
#2138 [17:21] <Fragmaster> well, I guess there were the 1.7.x versions, but that's not an issue
#2139 [17:21] <mib_gqxgxi> ok
#2140 [17:21] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi: How much RAM do you have?
#2141 [17:21] <mib_gqxgxi> ram?
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#2143 [17:21] <mib_gqxgxi> i have 1.8.1 sorry not 1.8
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#2145 [17:22] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi: on your computer... you do know what RAM is right?
#2146 [17:22] <mib_gqxgxi> butt it is one point 8
#2147 [17:22] <mib_gqxgxi> and no i do not know what ram means
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#2149 [17:23] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi how old is your computer?
#2150 [17:23] <mib_gqxgxi> um 7 yers i think
#2151 [17:23] <adamkex> tuX: ok
#2152 [17:24] <Thrae> mib_gqxgxi: Windows?
#2153 [17:24] <tuX> adamkex, if you use the give command to insert a map it will always be map_0 afaik
#2154 [17:24] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi BTW, I'm not an admin or a developer or an expert, I'm just trying to help a bit
#2155 [17:24] <mib_gqxgxi> WINDOWS
#2156 [17:24] <Thrae> Fragmaster: There are no staff from Mojang here.
#2157 [17:25] <Thrae> ??> mib_gqxgxi win/dxdiag
#2158 [17:25] <VoxelHead> mib_gqxgxi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2159 [17:25] <VoxelHead> mib_gqxgxi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2160 [17:25] <mib_gqxgxi> do i have to do what voxel head said
#2161 [17:25] <tuX> yea
#2162 [17:25] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi that'll tell us exactly what your computer is doing
#2163 [17:26] <mib_gqxgxi> ok
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#2165 [17:26] <Thrae> You don't HAVE to do what VoxelHead says, but it'll help us see the hardware in your computer.
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#2167 [17:26] <mib_gqxgxi> how a bout i do team vewier so you can see
#2168 [17:26] <tuX> still ... does anybody have server issues or knows about some :S?
#2169 [17:27] <Thrae> mib_gqxgxi: Not necessary.
#2170 [17:27] <Thrae> tuX: What issue are you having?
#2171 [17:27] <Fragmaster> Thrae lag
#2172 [17:27] <tuX> i had my server running for days and since today if i join (its hosted on my own computer) it starts lagging like shit
#2173 [17:27] <tuX> cant move cant do nothing
#2174 [17:28] <mib_gqxgxi> well heres th prob with that it never lets me paste anything
#2175 [17:28] <tuX> nothing change bug turned up... dunno how to give you more information becaus i don't know where to get some
#2176 [17:28] <Thrae> mib_gqxgxi: Make sure you do Select All first, *then* Copy.
#2177 [17:28] <Thrae> tuX: Are you using a batch file?
#2178 [17:28] <tuX> i'm on ubuntu 11.04
#2179 [17:28] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi you can't paste? You have to use pastebin.com to paste into this IRC
#2180 [17:28] <tuX> so i guess i'd say no
#2181 [17:29] <Thrae> tuX: OK, then, what's your command with java in it to startup the server?
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#2183 [17:29] <tuX> java -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#2184 [17:29] <mib_gqxgxi> thers a error on dxdiag
#2185 [17:30] <Thrae> tuX: Try "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui"
#2186 [17:30] <tuX> doesn't change a thing
#2187 [17:30] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi what's the erroe?
#2188 [17:30] <tuX> i thought giving it more ram will improve ... doesn't
#2189 [17:30] <Thrae> tuX: Hmm, sounds like map corruption then. Do you have a backup?
#2190 [17:30] <tuX> nope :S others can't play
#2191 [17:30] <tuX> its just me
#2192 [17:31] <Thrae> tuX: Make a backup of your world and let the server generate a new world and see if the lag continues.
#2193 [17:31] <MattS> I can't get any further than the launcher.
#2194 [17:31] <tuX> mom
#2195 [17:31] <mib_gqxgxi> it says theres a prob with accesing the system info
#2196 [17:32] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi did you try dxdiag again?
#2197 [17:32] <mib_gqxgxi> no
#2198 [17:32] <Thrae> MattS: What happens? And are you on Windows, Mac, Linux, other?
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#2200 [17:32] <Thrae> mib_gqxgxi: If DxDiag is giving you an error it sounds like your drivers might be messed up. What version of Windows is this?
#2201 [17:33] <mib_gqxgxi> window vista
#2202 [17:33] <MattS> Windows Vista. I get to the launcher, enter my info, hit 'login' and it says "Cannot connect to minecraft.net"
#2203 [17:33] <Thrae> MattS: Grab the latest launcher from the website -- the old one will fail immediately.
#2204 [17:33] <MattS> When I press play offline, I get a loading screen for about half a second, then it goes black and nothing happens.
#2205 [17:33] <Thrae> ??> mib_gqxgxi nodxdiag
#2206 [17:33] <tuX> sjhit u are right... it is the map :(((!
#2207 [17:33] <Fragmaster> MattS: you may have the old launcher?
#2208 [17:33] <Thrae> ??> mib_gqxgxi win/nodxdiag
#2209 [17:33] <VoxelHead> mib_gqxgxi: (win/nodxdiag) In rare cases where dxdiag won't work, you can try using msinfo32 instead. Press the Win+R keys, and type "msinfo32.exe" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. Once it has finished loading, click "File -> Export" button, name it to info.txt (or any other file name) and save it to your desktop.
#2210 [17:33] <MattS> Is the new launcher in the same place as the old one?
#2211 [17:33] <VoxelHead> mib_gqxgxi: (win/nodxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2212 [17:34] <Thrae> !client
#2213 [17:34] <mib_v4ea3f> Hi - I just downloaded minecraft to my pc - Windows 7, 64 bit. Java is up to date and video driver is up to date, but minecraft won't launch. Keeps giving error. Help! I've tried all the youtube fixes, no change :(
#2214 [17:34] <Thrae> mib_v4ea3f: Paste the error to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
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#2216 [17:36] <mib_gqxgxi> whats the link
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#2218 [17:36] <Thrae> mib_gqxgxi: Follow the instructions VoxelHead gave you.
#2219 [17:36] <MattS> Nope, same issue.
#2220 [17:37] <Thrae> MattS: Have you tried the in-browser version?
#2221 [17:37] <mib_v4ea3f> http://pastebin.com/mg7pCEq6 here's the link. thx!
#2222 [17:37] <MattS> Yes, I can't play that either. It loads java, then I get a permanent white screen in the game box.
#2223 [17:37] <MattS> I never get any further than that.
#2224 [17:38] <MattS> I've updated Java as well.
#2225 [17:38] <Thrae> ??> mib_v4ea3f win/dxdiag
#2226 [17:38] <VoxelHead> mib_v4ea3f: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2227 [17:38] <mib_gqxgxi> i know butt what do i said the past bin stuff to
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#2229 [17:38] <VoxelHead> mib_v4ea3f: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2230 [17:38] <Thrae> ??> MattS win/javara
#2231 [17:38] <VoxelHead> MattS: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2232 [17:38] <VoxelHead> MattS: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#2233 [17:39] <tuX> Thrae, is there a way to "uncorrupt" the map ?? (got disconnected sry :S)
#2234 [17:39] <Thrae> MattS: Use JavaRa to uninstall all versions of Java, then go to Programs and Features and uninstall all versions of Java there, then install from http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2235 [17:39] <MattS> Okay, I'll see if that works.
#2236 [17:39] <mib_gqxgxi> fragmaster
#2237 [17:39] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi: yeah?
#2238 [17:39] <Thrae> tuX: You can try using MCEdit. Sometimes just opening the map up in MCEdit then saving it may work.
#2239 [17:40] <tuX> mkay
#2240 [17:40] <mib_gqxgxi> i know butt what do i send the paste bin stuff to
#2241 [17:40] <Thrae> mib_gqxgxi: You paste the link here in this IRC channel.
#2242 [17:40] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi: that way we can read it
#2243 [17:41] <mib_gqxgxi> how tho
#2244 [17:41] <Thrae> mib_gqxgxi: Copy the link from your address bar using CTRL+C, then paste it into this channel using CTRL+V.
#2245 [17:41] <Fragmaster> pastebin.com will give you a link to copy and paste into here
#2246 [17:41] <mib_v4ea3f> http://pastebin.com/5uCWj6Ey
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#2248 [17:42] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi: mib_v4ea3f: just did it
#2249 [17:42] <Thrae> mib_v4ea3f: Yeah, the Microsoft-provided drivers suck. One moment.
#2250 [17:43] <MattS> Will I find Java in Programs and Features? What if there are no versions of Java in that folder?
#2251 [17:43] <mib_gqxgxi> can i just show on team vewer
#2252 [17:43] <Thrae> MattS: JavaRa might have already removed them. Look under "Sun Java" too.
#2253 [17:43] <MattS> I don't see any. I guess they're gone.
#2254 [17:43] <tuX> Thrae, and if it doesnt work :(??
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#2256 [17:43] <mib_gqxgxi> fragmaster
#2257 [17:43] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi: did you het the file to save on your desktop?
#2258 [17:44] <MattS> Okay, I have the latest java already. (1.6.0_27)
#2259 [17:44] <MattS> Just try again, then?
#2260 [17:44] <Thrae> mib_v4ea3f: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English <-- download and install
#2261 [17:44] <mib_gqxgxi> no butt why cant i show you on team vewer
#2262 [17:44] <Thrae> MattS: Well the point was to uninstall Java completely.
#2263 [17:45] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi: I'm sorry that we have to use this rather frustrating approach, but the experts on here can help you much better when you use the pastebin
#2264 [17:45] <mib_gqxgxi> fragmaster
#2265 [17:45] <MattS> Hmm... okay. So a clean slate.
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#2267 [17:45] <mib_v4ea3f> full version?
#2268 [17:45] <Thrae> mib_v4ea3f: The suite, yeah.
#2269 [17:45] <mib_gqxgxi> please can i show you on team vewer
#2270 [17:45] <Thrae> MattS: Yeah, it fixes problems sometimes.
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#2272 [17:45] <mib_v4ea3f> k
#2273 [17:45] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi: I don't even know what team viewer is
#2274 [17:45] <mib_gqxgxi> fragsmasre
#2275 [17:45] <MattS> Well, I'll try again and see if it's fixed, then reinstall.
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#2277 [17:46] <mib_i93fyt> hello?
#2278 [17:46] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi: would team viewer just show me your screen? If so, It won't do us any good.
#2279 [17:46] <mib_gqxgxi> it lets you go n my computer and show you what the prob is butt once i hit the x button you cant
#2280 [17:46] <Thrae> mib_i93fyt: Yes?
#2281 [17:47] <gamerdude161> Every time I try to login to my account on minecraft, it says login failed. PLEASE HELP ME!!
#2282 [17:47] <mib_i93fyt> why is my minecraft crashing?
#2283 [17:47] <mib_gqxgxi> no and you can conttrol the mouse
#2284 [17:47] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi: do you know how to use the "Run" tool in Windows?
#2285 [17:47] <mib_gqxgxi> fragmaster
#2286 [17:47] <gamerdude161> I have a mac
#2287 [17:47] <Thrae> gamerdude161: Grab the latest launcher from the website. The old launcher will fail.
#2288 [17:47] <gamerdude161> okay! Thank you!
#2289 [17:48] <mib_i93fyt> Thrae why is my minecraft crashing?
#2290 [17:48] <mib_gqxgxi> rgnjhhp;
#2291 [17:48] <Fragmaster> mib_gqxgxi: :(
#2292 [17:48] <Thrae> mib_i93fyt: I don't know without knowing more about your problem. Can you paste the error you're getting to www.pastebin.com and give us the link?
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#2294 [17:50] <mib_v4ea3f> now that it is installed, now what?
#2295 [17:50] <tuX> Thrae, i deleted my user file on ther server and the one who also had the problem now everything is running smooth again
#2296 [17:51] <Thrae> mib_v4ea3f: Try Minecraft again -- it should work.
#2297 [17:51] <Thrae> tuX: Great!
#2298 [17:51] <tuX> Thrae, from now on backups and stuff
#2299 [17:51] <tuX> have a nice evening... cya
#2300 [17:51] <MattS> Okay, , almost there. Just need to delete all this java stuff.
#2301 [17:52] <mib_v4ea3f> same issue. should I paste the error again?
#2302 [17:52] <Thrae> mib_v4ea3f: No, give us your DxDiag again -- I want to make sure the driver *was* updated.
#2303 [17:52] <mib_v4ea3f> k
#2304 [17:53] <MattS> Okay, do I delete the Java folder from my program files?
#2305 [17:53] <Thrae> MattS: Not necessary. Just uninstall it.
#2306 [17:53] <mib_v4ea3f> http://pastebin.com/JtTv6bLz
#2307 [17:54] <Thrae> mib_v4ea3f: Nope. Driver wasn't updated. Did you get any errors when you tried installing the Suite?
#2308 [17:54] <mib_v4ea3f> nope
#2309 [17:55] <MattS> Well, it's as uninstalled as I can get it.
#2310 [17:55] <MattS> Java is, at least. Per your instructions.
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#2312 [17:57] <mib_v4ea3f> i installed it agaion and got this error: Driver Install: Windows® version does not support this operation
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#2314 [17:58] <MattS> Now I re-re-reinstall Java
#2315 [17:58] <Thrae> mib_v4ea3f: You have an Inspiron Desktop 530S (Slim)?
#2316 [17:58] <mib_v4ea3f> yes
#2317 [17:59] <Thrae> mib_v4ea3f: Go to support.dell.com and let it auto-detect your service tag, then download the ATI driver under Video.
#2318 [17:59] <mib_v4ea3f> k
#2319 [18:01] <MattS> Nope, still no luck.
#2320 [18:02] <Thrae> MattS: Hmmm. OK, maybe there's a problem with your drivers.
#2321 [18:02] <Thrae> ??> MattS win/dxdiag
#2322 [18:02] <VoxelHead> MattS: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2323 [18:02] <VoxelHead> MattS: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2326 [18:03] <pollt_> If i want to completly reinstall minecraft, what files do i need to delete from my pc?
#2327 [18:03] <MattS> Okay. I'm doing that now. Just a minute.
#2328 [18:03] <Thrae> pollt_: The "bin" and "resources" directories.
#2329 [18:03] <pollt_> I keep getting the "too many failed logins" message on the standalone launcher, but i'm fine playing in-browser.
#2330 [18:03] <pollt_> bin and recources, right :)
#2331 [18:04] <gamerdude161161> YOUR KIDDING ME!! I HAVE WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS AND YOUR TELLING ME IT WON"T WORK!
#2332 [18:04] <Thrae> pollt_: Did you re-download the launcher from the website? The old launcher won't connect anymore.
#2333 [18:04] <pollt_> Hmm. let me check.
#2334 [18:04] <mariettagecko> gamerdude161161: huh?
#2335 [18:04] <Thrae> gamerdude161161: Calm down. What's going on?
#2336 [18:05] <gamerdude161161> I tried! But it didn't work! I still have beta 1.7.3
#2337 [18:05] <pollt_> tried what?
#2338 [18:05] <gamerdude161161> redownloading the game
#2339 [18:05] <Thrae> gamerdude161161: What happens? Do you get an error message?
#2340 [18:05] <mariettagecko> gamerdude161161: Ok, so how about you start over at the beginning. What happens when trying to start 1.8?
#2341 [18:06] <gamerdude161161> well, it keeps telling me that I can't connect to minecraft.net
#2342 [18:06] <pollt_> where
#2343 [18:06] <gamerdude161161> whenever I try to login
#2344 [18:06] <Thrae> gamerdude161161: Have you re-downloaded the launcher from the website? The old launcher won't connect anymore.
#2345 [18:06] <gamerdude161161> I tried
#2346 [18:06] <pollt_> oops. where's the bin and resources folders located?
#2347 [18:06] <mib_v4ea3f> which one? http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?stag=506ZHH1&s=dhs&c=us&l=en&cs=19&ec=&ira=False&cat=sup&subcat=dyd&rf=all&evl=&nk=f&k=ati+video+driver&p=1&nf=&rpp=12&sort=K&%7Esrd=False&ipsys=False&advsrch=False
#2348 [18:07] <Thrae> pollt_: Well if you say "folders" I'm assuming you're using Windows, so %APPDATA%\.minecraft
#2349 [18:07] <MattS> Okay, there we go. http://pastebin.com/TEzu84Zw
#2350 [18:07] <pollt_> yeah
#2351 [18:07] <pollt_> sry
#2352 [18:07] <gamerdude161161> under apllication support on my mac
#2353 [18:07] <Thrae> gamerdude161161: Try using the Linux launcher.
#2354 [18:07] <gamerdude161161> okay.
#2355 [18:09] <Thrae> mib_v4ea3f: You're in the wrong section. Go to support.dell.com, enter your service tag, then go to Drivers and Downloads.
#2356 [18:09] <gamerdude161161> I just tried the linux launcher and it didn't work : (
#2357 [18:09] <Thrae> ??> gamerdude161161 mac/permissions
#2358 [18:09] <VoxelHead> gamerdude161161: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#2359 [18:09] <VoxelHead> gamerdude161161: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2360 [18:10] <gamerdude161161> okay. I will try
#2361 [18:10] <pollt_> Thrae: new launcher, check! still the same error msg. playing in-browser still works like a charm though.
#2362 [18:10] <Thrae> pollt_: OK, how about....what's your current system time?
#2363 [18:10] <pollt_> wait! got it to work
#2364 [18:11] <pollt_> "run as administrator"
#2365 [18:11] <pollt_> :D
#2366 [18:11] <Thrae> Hmm odd, that shouldn't make a difference. What folder do you have Minecraft.exe in?
#2367 [18:11] <pollt_> the standard win7 "downloads" folder
#2368 [18:12] <pollt_> C:\users\pollt\downloads\
#2369 [18:12] <Thrae> pollt_: One sec
#2370 [18:13] <pollt_> np
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#2372 [18:16] <MattS> I had it in browser for a few tantalizing seconds, but it froze on me!
#2373 [18:17] <MattS> I'll see if the normal launcher works.
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#2375 [18:21] <MattS> I'd better head to dinner... But I'll be back.
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#2378 [18:23] <Boreeas> It appears that shift-clicking items into a full container still breaks it?
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#2380 [18:23] <mariettagecko> Boreeas: The answer to that seems to be mixed.
#2381 [18:23] <mariettagecko> Boreeas: It doesn't, from what I have seen, break the client.
#2382 [18:23] <Boreeas> Well, it just did for me :P
#2383 [18:24] <mariettagecko> Boreeas: However, my own testing *SEEMS* to suggest that it crashes the server if you try to shift-click into a full container.
#2384 [18:24] <mariettagecko> Boreeas: There seems to be no problem if the destination has plenty of available space.
#2385 [18:24] <Boreeas> Well, in my case, it was the other way around. My client crashed, but the server was fine
#2386 [18:24] <Boreeas> Oh well
#2387 [18:25] <Eric> i cant go on servers cuz it says" user not premium" ive tryed using the browser but it doesnt work
#2388 [18:25] <mariettagecko> Hmmm. Have you pulled the update?
#2389 [18:25] <Eric> pulled the update?
#2390 [18:25] <mariettagecko> Eric: your client wasn't able to connect to minecraft.net.
#2391 [18:26] <mariettagecko> Eric: The result is that when you then tried to connect to the server, it didn't see the premium flag, and therefore refused access.
#2392 [18:26] <Eric> it says login failed whenever i log in
#2393 [18:26] <mariettagecko> Boreeas: You have 1.8.1, right?
#2394 [18:26] <Eric> yes
#2395 [18:26] <Boreeas> yes
#2396 [18:26] <Eric> it started when 1.8 came out
#2397 [18:27] <mariettagecko> Eric: What is the username you are using to connect to minecraft.net?
#2398 [18:27] <Eric> 3rictheman
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#2400 [18:28] * mariettagecko pokes the ops
#2400 [18:28] <mariettagecko> Can one of yall verify that his account is showing good?
#2401 [18:28] <mariettagecko> Boreeas: Can you reproduce the issue?
#2402 [18:29] <Boreeas> One second
#2403 [18:29] <Boreeas> !paid 3rictheman
#2404 [18:29] <mariettagecko> I thought that was the command, but I wasn't sure.
#2405 [18:29] <mariettagecko> ok
#2406 [18:29] <Eric> will it work?
#2407 [18:30] <mariettagecko> And Boreeas, I was more asking if you can reproduce the issue with shift-clicking
#2408 [18:30] <Boreeas> mariettagecko: minecaft.net/haspaid.php?=Playername
#2409 [18:30] <Boreeas> It was reproducible for me, yes
#2410 [18:30] <Boreeas> Seems to be fairly low-level, too, as it even crashes the Error log screen
#2411 [18:31] <mariettagecko> Boreeas: Then, seeing as you're +v, I am sure you know this already, but I would recommend posting a bug report with explicit step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce the issue in the bugs thread.
#2412 [18:31] <Boreeas> Yeah, I was just checking if anyone else had that problem, too
#2413 [18:31] <mariettagecko> Boreeas: and I would recommend being thorough in the details... exactly what you're trying to move, from where to where, etc.
#2414 [18:32] <mariettagecko> I haven't seen the issue on my system, just on my server when I try to shift-click stuff into a full bag.
#2415 [18:32] <mariettagecko> I *BELIEVE* that's what is causing my server to crash shortly after I try.
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#2417 [18:35] <localnutter> Is anyone else having problems with animals not spawning? So far I've only found 1 sheep, 1 chicken, 3 cows a few thousand blocks away and a pig at sea.
#2418 [18:35] <Thrae> Haha. "Pig at sea".
#2419 [18:36] <localnutter> What can I say, bacon floats :)
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#2421 [18:36] <localnutter> But this has only happened since updating to 1.8
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#2423 [18:37] <mariettagecko> localnutter: I have noticed that the spawn rate of non-hostile mobs has greatly decreased in my mob farm, but other than that, no.
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#2425 [18:37] <mariettagecko> At least, it seems to have.
#2426 [18:38] <localnutter> Hmm, well my spawn rate is seriously down. 5 animals in an area equivalent to a 6 square km area :(
#2427 [18:38] <Thrae> I seem to recall something added in 1.8.x to reduce Mob Farming
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#2429 [18:39] <localnutter> Yes, but even so... :\
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#2432 [18:40] <localnutter> I'm just thankful I had a fair collection of eggs, enough to get a couple of chickens in a pen
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#2436 [18:41] <mariettagecko> Yeah, I may just rebuild my non-hostile mob farm as a plants farm or something, since the non-hostile mobs very rarely appear there.
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#2438 [18:41] <noah1831> java used to work on my computer but it stopped working i dont know why
#2439 [18:41] <localnutter> The curious thing is I have another world created around the same time and that one has plenty of animals.
#2440 [18:41] <noah1831> please help
#2441 [18:41] <noah1831> i cant play minecraft
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#2443 [18:42] <localnutter> noah1831: what OS are you using?
#2444 [18:42] <noah1831> xp
#2445 [18:43] <localnutter> Go to Start-Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs and remove Java. Restart PC. Go to www.java.com and download Java again. That should do it :)
#2446 [18:43] <Induril> I cant connect to Minecraft.net on any computer. Its almost like my User is locked out
#2447 [18:43] <noah1831> i did that
#2448 [18:43] <Induril> Dont know what to do
#2449 [18:43] <Thrae> Induril: Even in your browser?
#2450 [18:43] <Induril> my browser loads up then goes black screen
#2451 [18:43] <noah1831> my computer thinks java is not installed
#2452 [18:43] <Thrae> Induril: No, I mean can you login to www.minecraft.net website in your browser?
#2453 [18:44] <Induril> oh yea
#2454 [18:44] <localnutter> noah1831: OK, hang on...
#2455 [18:44] <Induril> when i try play it through my browser it goes black screen
#2456 [18:44] <Induril> it worked like once
#2457 [18:44] <Thrae> Induril: OK, is this Windows?
#2458 [18:44] <Induril> yea 7
#2459 [18:45] <Induril> its been this way for nearly 2 weeks
#2460 [18:45] <localnutter> noah1831: Just a thought, are you running Minecraft from the browser or are you using the downloaded version?
#2461 [18:45] <Thrae> ??> Induril java/version
#2462 [18:45] <VoxelHead> Induril: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2463 [18:45] <VoxelHead> Induril: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2464 [18:46] <noah1831> the downloaded version
#2465 [18:46] <Induril> Version 6 Update 26
#2466 [18:46] <Thrae> Induril: It should ask you to update. Do so.
#2467 [18:47] <Thrae> noah1831: Go to http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp . Does it say Java is installed? If so, what version?
#2468 [18:47] <noah1831> my computer thinks java is not installed
#2469 [18:48] <noah1831> but it is
#2470 [18:48] <Thrae> noah1831: Is that what happens when you go to that website?
#2471 [18:48] <localnutter> noah1831: Click on Start-Run and run "cmd". In command prompt type "java" and see if it runs. If yes then it's not Java, if not it's either not installed properly or the path environment variable is missing the path to the java interpreter.
#2472 [18:48] <Thrae> noah1831: Are you using 64-bit Windows?
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#2474 [18:49] <Induril_> okay
#2475 [18:49] <Induril_> done that
#2476 [18:49] <noah1831> thrae java used to work
#2477 [18:50] <noah1831> localnutter that didnt work
#2478 [18:50] <Induril_> Thrae: updated java and still nothing
#2479 [18:50] <noah1831> yes
#2480 [18:50] <Thrae> noah1831: This is all nice and good, but you aren't answering my questions. Do you have 64-bit Windows?
#2481 [18:50] <noah1831> i have 64 bit windows
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#2483 [18:52] <Thrae> noah1831: Most browsers run 32-bit versions by default, so it sounds like you don't have 32-bit Java properly installed. With 64-bit Windows you can have both 64-bit Java and 32-bit Java installed at once.
#2484 [18:52] <Thrae> ??> noah1831 win/javara
#2485 [18:52] <VoxelHead> noah1831: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2486 [18:52] <VoxelHead> noah1831: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#2487 [18:52] <localnutter> noah1831: download both the 32 bit and 64 bit versions from www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
#2488 [18:52] <Thrae> noah1831: Use that to remove old and broken versions of Java, then install Java 32-bit off http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2489 [18:53] <noah1831> one sec...
#2490 [18:53] <Induril_> Still cant connect to minecraft.net
#2491 [18:53] <localnutter> noah1831: make sure you restart your PC before re-installing java
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#2493 [18:54] <huddler> whazzup
#2494 [18:54] <Induril_> updated to latest java
#2495 [18:54] <Induril_> still bothing
#2496 [18:54] <Induril_> nothing*
#2497 [18:54] <noah1831> what do i click on to download java ra
#2498 [18:54] <huddler> who needs help?
#2499 [18:54] <huddler> wait afk
#2500 [18:55] <noah1831> i have to go
#2501 [18:56] <noah1831> nvm i can stay
#2502 [18:56] <huddler> ok anyone need help?
#2503 [18:56] <noah1831> i need help
#2504 [18:56] <huddler> wait
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#2506 [18:57] <noah1831> i dont think javara is going to help
#2507 [18:57] <huddler> om what noah?
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#2509 [18:58] <noah1831> java stopped working
#2510 [18:58] <huddler> try reinstalling it.
#2511 [18:58] <noah1831> i tried reinstalling but that didnt help
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#2513 [19:00] <Induril> Having Problems Connecting to minecraft.net, My launcher is Current, Just updated to latest java, also cant even play in the browser just get black screen
#2514 [19:00] <huddler> try this noah: http://miburl.com/RMZIn0
#2515 [19:00] <Thrae> noah1831: JavaRa can fix broken Java installations. You can also try downloading both the 32-bit and 64-bit Java manually from http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp . Make sure you uninstall all versions of Java first from Programs and Features.
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#2517 [19:01] <Flight> Hi guys, I've got a problem. I think I know whats wrong, its that in the .minecraft folder the level.dat_old file is corrupt. How do you delete that?
#2518 [19:02] <noah1831> i dont want to give miburl.com all that information
#2519 [19:02] <huddler> noah wait
#2520 [19:02] <Flight> anyone know how to delete the .dat_old file?
#2521 [19:02] <TheNoodle> Noah, use http://www.pastebin.com and set it to private.
#2522 [19:02] <TheNoodle> Flight, have you tried deleting it? ;)
#2523 [19:02] <Flight> Ya
#2524 [19:03] <Flight> It says i need "special permission"
#2525 [19:03] <TheNoodle> Was minecraft running?
#2526 [19:03] <Flight> no
#2527 [19:03] <huddler> Go to start menu and type run, now click it. Then type %appdata% and hit enter/ok. Now just delet the .minecraft file but remember to put your saves somwhere else otherwise they will be deleted hope this helped it worked
#2528 [19:04] <Flight> no, didn't work
#2529 [19:04] <huddler> flight what happened?
#2530 [19:04] <Flight> is there any way to submit pictures?
#2531 [19:05] <noah1831> how long is pastbin going to take
#2532 [19:05] <Thrae> Flight: Is Minecraft currently running?
#2533 [19:05] <huddler> not long
#2534 [19:05] <TheNoodle> Just upload them to http://imgur.com flight.
#2535 [19:05] <Flight> k
#2536 [19:05] <TheNoodle> Thrae, what happened to your voice? O.o
#2537 [19:06] <Induril> Having Problems Connecting to minecraft.net, My launcher is Current, Just updated to latest java, also cant even play in the browser just get black screen
#2538 [19:06] <huddler> afk
#2539 [19:06] <noah1831> pastbin isnt doing anything
#2540 [19:06] <TheNoodle> What do you mean not doing anything? Submit the text and paste the url here.
#2541 [19:07] <Induril> anyone?
#2542 [19:07] <noah1831> i did
#2543 [19:07] <Thrae> TheNoodle: I don't get auto-voiced, and I had to re-connect.
#2544 [19:07] <TheNoodle> Noah, you haven't pasted the link yet.
#2545 [19:07] <TheNoodle> ahk thrae
#2546 [19:07] <Thrae> ??> Induril win/dxdiag
#2547 [19:07] <VoxelHead> Induril: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2548 [19:07] <VoxelHead> Induril: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2551 [19:09] <noah1831> ?
#2552 [19:09] <noah1831> im confused
#2553 [19:09] <Induril> http://pastebin.com/kSnHtfj0
#2554 [19:09] <noah1831> ?
#2555 [19:10] <TheNoodle> Noah1831. The text you want to give to us, paste it in the window that comes up when you click http://www.pastebin.com
#2556 [19:10] <TheNoodle> Once you've done that you need to press submit.
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#2558 [19:10] <TheNoodle> It will take you to another page, copy the URL of that page and paste it here.
#2559 [19:11] <noah1831> ??
#2560 [19:11] <TheNoodle> ...
#2561 [19:11] <Induril> its not that hard man
#2562 [19:11] <noah1831> yes it is
#2563 [19:12] <Induril> are you on pastebin?
#2564 [19:12] <TheNoodle> Induril, I can't see anything in your dxdiag that would cause the black screen :/
#2565 [19:12] <noah1831> its hard when you have adhd
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#2567 [19:12] <Induril> :S
#2568 [19:12] <noah1831> i am on pastbin
#2569 [19:12] <Induril> okay
#2570 [19:12] <TheNoodle> As much as I like helping people, I don't have the patience this time of the morning.
#2571 [19:13] <mib_jmlq8j> for some reason, whenever i get all the way to my game, and i click on it, it goes to a black screen
#2572 [19:13] <Thrae> Induril: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx <-- download and install the Suite
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#2574 [19:13] <noah1831> i have to go
#2575 [19:13] <Induril> your doing a dxdiag right?
#2576 [19:14] <Induril> okay
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#2578 [19:14] <TheNoodle> ....I hate the internet.
#2579 [19:14] <mib_jmlq8j> sum1 help me
#2580 [19:14] <Induril> lol
#2581 [19:14] <mib_jmlq8j> black screen. deleting the .bin doesn't help
#2582 [19:14] <TheNoodle> Having you updated java?
#2583 [19:14] <mib_jmlq8j> yep
#2584 [19:14] <Induril> Thrae: Downloading now
#2585 [19:15] <NaNa> Having the black screen + java error report issue.
#2586 [19:15] <TheNoodle> Try doing a dxdiag for us mib_jmlq8j.
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#2588 [19:15] <mib_jmlq8j> yepp, exactly nana
#2589 [19:15] <mib_jmlq8j> how do u do that
#2590 [19:15] <NaNa> I think it's just a problem with the game.
#2591 [19:15] <TheNoodle> Nana, could you put the error in pastebin for us please?
#2592 [19:15] <Flight> Anyone know how to delete .dat_old files
#2593 [19:15] <NaNa> Sure. One sec.
#2594 [19:15] <NaNa> Sorry. Pastebin?
#2595 [19:15] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_jmlq8j win/dxdiag
#2596 [19:15] <NaNa> Not sure what that is.
#2597 [19:15] <VoxelHead> mib_jmlq8j: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2598 [19:15] <VoxelHead> mib_jmlq8j: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2599 [19:16] <TheNoodle> nana: http://pastebin.com
#2600 [19:16] <mib_jmlq8j> i have a mac
#2601 [19:16] <NaNa> Thanks.
#2602 [19:16] <TheNoodle> mib_jmlq8j, in that case, I can't help you ^_^ I don't deal with macs.
#2603 [19:16] <bugweiser> i bought the game but can find a way to play it
#2604 [19:16] <Flight> Anyone know how to delete .dat_old files?
#2605 [19:16] <TheNoodle> wait...you running lion?
#2606 [19:16] <mib_jmlq8j> FFFFFUUUUUUU
#2607 [19:16] <Flight> Anyone know how to delete .dat_old files
#2608 [19:16] <Induril> XD
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#2610 [19:17] <TheNoodle> Bugweiser, log in at http://minecraft.net
#2611 [19:17] <bugweiser> how do i play the game
#2612 [19:17] <bugweiser> i did that
#2613 [19:17] <TheNoodle> From there you can either download the game or play it in your browser.
#2614 [19:17] <TheNoodle> or, download the client from here...
#2615 [19:17] <TheNoodle> !client
#2616 [19:17] <NaNa> Do I need to be logged in for pastebin?
#2617 [19:18] <Flight> Anyone know how to delete .dat_old files? It says I need "special permissions"
#2618 [19:18] <Induril> nope
#2619 [19:18] <TheNoodle> You do not nana.
#2620 [19:18] <TheNoodle> Flight.
#2621 [19:18] <TheNoodle> :ts
#2622 [19:18] <TheNoodle> wat.
#2623 [19:18] <Induril> try run as admin?
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#2625 [19:18] <Thrae> Flight: Are you using Windows?
#2626 [19:18] <Flight> I am
#2627 [19:18] <TheNoodle> mfw wugbot doesn't work.
#2628 [19:18] <bugweiser> i downloaded it but when i log in it say in not a premium user but i bought the game 2 days ago
#2629 [19:18] <Flight> Ya
#2630 [19:18] <TheNoodle> Bugweiser, what is your username?
#2631 [19:18] <Thrae> Flight: Sounds like you were running your server as Administrator.
#2632 [19:18] <bugweiser> aressmoke43
#2633 [19:18] <NaNa> Okay. What do I need to do after it's done loading?
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#2635 [19:19] <Flight> ?
#2636 [19:19] <TheNoodle> !paid aressmoke43
#2637 [19:19] <TheNoodle> nana: paste the url here.
#2638 [19:19] <Induril> GASP!
#2639 [19:19] <eggy> !paid me
#2640 [19:19] <Flight> I need to delete a corrupt save file. The level.dat_old one
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#2642 [19:19] <NaNa> Sorry. I don't see a url.
#2643 [19:19] <bugweiser> should i buy the game again???
#2644 [19:19] <NaNa> Do I click download?
#2645 [19:19] <eggy> :o
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#2647 [19:19] <eggy> but i have =p
#2648 [19:19] <Thrae> Flight: OK, download http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/Permissions.bat and place it in the same directory as the file you want to delete. Run the batch file as Administrator and it should fix your permissions problem.
#2649 [19:20] <Flight> Ok...
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#2651 [19:21] <eggy> !paid eggster
#2652 [19:21] <eggy> ^^
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#2654 [19:21] <crackduck> !paid crackduck
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#2656 [19:21] <Induril> !paid Eomere
#2657 [19:21] <TheNytangel> Stop..
#2658 [19:22] <TheNoodle> can there be a minimum time in the channel for aubot? :P
#2659 [19:22] <crackduck> Anyone know why I might have no sound?
#2660 [19:22] <NaNa> Seems like everyone is getting the same error report.
#2661 [19:22] <Thrae> Flight: Yes. Run it.
#2662 [19:22] <Induril> lol sorry
#2663 [19:22] <Zappshot> ......Hello?
#2664 [19:22] <Flight> Thrae: Didn't work
#2665 [19:22] <Thrae> crackduck: Follow this tutorial -- https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=update%20lwjgl&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minecraftwiki.net%2Fwiki%2FTutorials%2FUpdate_LWJGL&ei=wc53TsOdOqnA0AGS_ZX4Cw&usg=AFQjCNGG_yPoK5nWzzKQ4zEAuw-r--0jEw
#2666 [19:23] <Thrae> whoops
#2667 [19:23] <Thrae> crackduck: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#2668 [19:23] <crackduck> Thrae: thank you very much, will try
#2669 [19:23] <NaNa> I'll link the error report one more time. http://pastebin.com/3cLybc9Z
#2670 [19:24] <Zappshot> Can someone help me?
#2671 [19:24] <Induril> Thrae: Okay have installed the ATI Suite
#2672 [19:25] <Induril> No difference....
#2673 [19:25] <Thrae> NaNa: It's not really a common error, but it can occur with video card drivers that don't properly support OpenGL 1.3.
#2674 [19:25] <Induril> still cant connect
#2675 [19:25] <Thrae> NaNa: It mostly happens with certain ATI video card drivers.
#2676 [19:26] <Thrae> Induril: Does the browser version work now?
#2677 [19:26] <Thrae> ??> Zappshot pm
#2678 [19:26] <VoxelHead> Zappshot: (pm) Private messages, or PM's, are sent from one person to another directly, and prevent the main chat from getting clogged.
#2679 [19:26] <VoxelHead> Zappshot: (pm) PM's appear, in Mibbit, in tabs on the upper left, labelled by the nickname of the sender.
#2680 [19:26] <NaNa> The browser version doesn't work either.
#2681 [19:26] <Thrae> ??> Zappshot dont/pm
#2682 [19:26] <VoxelHead> Zappshot: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#2683 [19:26] <NaNa> For me.
#2684 [19:26] <huddler> any probs?
#2685 [19:26] <NaNa> Is there anything I can do to remedy the problem?
#2686 [19:26] <Thrae> NaNa: *You* need to update your video card drivers.
#2687 [19:27] <Induril> Thrae: Just trying
#2688 [19:27] <NaNa> Alright.
#2689 [19:27] <huddler> anyone have problems?
#2690 [19:27] <NaNa> Thanks for your help, btw.
#2691 [19:27] <Induril> Thrae: Same thing
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#2694 [19:28] <Thrae> Induril: When you browse to http://login.minecraft.net , do you get a page that says "Bad Login!" ?
#2695 [19:28] <Zappshot> Sorry. XD Any idea why Classic won't load/save levels?
#2696 [19:28] <NaNa> I can update my drivers through windows update, right?
#2697 [19:29] <Induril> i did just then
#2698 [19:29] <huddler> some of them you cant nana
#2699 [19:29] <Thrae> NaNa: Grab 'em from ATI/AMD's website (http://www.amd.com). Do you know what your video card chipset is?
#2700 [19:29] <NaNa> I don't.
#2701 [19:29] <Thrae> ??> Nana win/dxdiag
#2702 [19:29] <VoxelHead> Nana: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2703 [19:29] <VoxelHead> Nana: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2704 [19:29] <Thrae> NaNa: Follow those instructions and we can tell you what to download.
#2705 [19:29] <Induril> Thrae: I did then. What does that mean?
#2706 [19:30] <NaNa> Alright. Thanks.
#2707 [19:30] <Flight> how do you force update without opening the minecraft application?
#2708 [19:30] <huddler> i usually get nvidia driver updates from windows but somehow they sometimes fail?????
#2709 [19:30] <Flight> how do you force update without opening the minecraft application?
#2710 [19:30] <Thrae> huddler: Windows Update is a bad place to get graphics drivers, as sometimes they're modified by Microsoft.
#2711 [19:30] <Thrae> Flight: You can't. You need to do it through the launcher.
#2712 [19:31] <Flight> But thats the problem, the launcher wont work!
#2713 [19:31] <Thrae> Induril: That means the site isn't being blocked, which is good.
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#2715 [19:31] <Induril> okay
#2716 [19:31] <Induril> Thrae: well its a start
#2717 [19:31] <huddler> like this update failed: Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 x86 (KB2539636) Installation date: ‎8/‎13/‎2011 4:42 PM Installation status: Failed Error details: Code 643 Update type: Important A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to co
#2718 [19:31] <Thrae> Induril: OK, how about this....what's your system date & time?
#2719 [19:31] <Thrae> huddler: Well that's not necessarily related to Minecraft, but it's still not good for your computer the update failed. I'd try it again.
#2720 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Isn't it. Check ! in windows username
#2721 [19:32] <Induril> Thrae: 11:32 am 20/09/2011
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#2723 [19:32] <Thrae> Induril: Does your Windows username have a ! in it?
#2724 [19:33] <Induril> Thrae: no
#2725 [19:33] <huddler> can anyone solve this update fail: WindowsUpdate_00000643" this is an error
#2726 [19:33] <crackduck> Thrae: Thanks for the suggestion but it didn't help. Still no sound after replacing the LWJGL files per the tutorial. :( I'll try deleting everything, reinstalling, then adding those files.
#2727 [19:33] <NaNa> Alright I have it. http://pastebin.com/SFmwSNhX
#2728 [19:33] <Thrae> huddler: That sort of problem is better suited for ##windows on irc.freenode.net
#2729 [19:34] <Flight> Thrae: The problem is, the launcher wont work! If I open it, I get an error message on my desktop. I think the problem is the corrupt level.dat_old file, but I can't delete it!
#2730 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Induril - Could you launch mincraft via the in-browser client at minecraft.net, when you do, a white coffee cup icon will pop up in your system tray. Open that up to get the java console. There, please pastebin.com everything that java gives you as you load up the applet
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#2732 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Flight - Please copy the entirety of the error message, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
#2733 [19:34] <xarcus> need some help here
#2734 [19:35] <Zappshot> ... :\
#2735 [19:35] <crackduck> Is my no sound problem unique? No one else has this happening?
#2736 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> crackduck - What OS?
#2737 [19:35] <Flight> Ok... its pretty lengthy
#2738 [19:35] <crackduck> win7
#2739 [19:35] <crackduck> the \resources folder is empty. Don't know if that's a big deal or not.
#2740 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> It is
#2741 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> That's where the sounds are
#2742 [19:36] <crackduck> Yeah
#2743 [19:36] <NaNa> Here it is again in case someone missed it. http://pastebin.com/SFmwSNhX
#2744 [19:36] <Induril> GreyVulpine: it just opens up about java
#2745 [19:36] <crackduck> Minecraft.exe isn't updating it for some reason.
#2746 [19:36] <xarcus> accedently deleted the confermation e-mail too download the game
#2747 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Induril - There should be an option for the java console there
#2748 [19:36] <Flight> http://mibpaste.com/iuCTP6
#2749 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> crackduck - Delete everything minecraft, redownload the launcher
#2750 [19:36] <Flight> GreyVulpine: http://mibpaste.com/iuCTP6
#2751 [19:37] <crackduck> I've tried that twice now, with reboots in between. Very odd.
#2752 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Flight - Looks like a problem with java. Did you mod minecraft at all?
#2753 [19:37] <Thrae> !client
#2754 [19:37] <huddler> also all my driver updates failed ???????????
#2755 [19:37] <Thrae> xarcus: There you go ^^^^
#2756 [19:38] <Induril> GreyVulpine: http://pastebin.com/U20EDEBa
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#2758 [19:38] <Flight> GreyVulpine: Well... not in a hacking way, I've migrated places a lot, but I didn't mess anything up
#2759 [19:39] <Ryladine> Hey, can someone help xfighter when you have time please? He's getting an error message I don't recognize.
#2760 [19:39] <Thrae> NaNa: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_vista-32.aspx <-- download the Suite and install
#2761 [19:39] <NaNa> Okay, thanks.
#2762 [19:39] <Flight> GreyVulpine: anyway I can fix it?
#2763 [19:39] <crackduck> I'm going to delete everything again, check for any and all Java updates, etc., reboot, re-download Minecraft.exe, and cross my fingers I guess.
#2764 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Flight - Chances are, a full uninstall of java and reinstall will fix it
#2765 [19:40] <Flight> Alright
#2766 [19:40] <crackduck> Anyone know if it's possible to just get a copy of the \resources folder from minecraft.net or something?
#2767 [19:40] <Zappshot> Any idea why Classic won't let me load/save anything?
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#2769 [19:40] <Flight> I can email it to u
#2770 [19:40] <huddler> i dont think so. try emailing notch or something
#2771 [19:40] <crackduck> me?
#2772 [19:40] <Flight> crackduck: ^
#2773 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Induril - Looks like... Do you have any sort of security software that is installed on your computer?
#2774 [19:40] <mariettagecko> xfighter: what's the error message?
#2775 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Induril - Anything that has parental controls, or some sort of funky permissions thing?
#2776 [19:41] <crackduck> Flight: did I do the pm right?
#2777 [19:41] <crackduck> nope
#2778 [19:41] <Flight> Well, i see it
#2779 [19:41] <crackduck> what is the private message command?
#2780 [19:41] <crackduck> haven't used IRC in a decade...
#2781 [19:41] <Flight> no idea
#2782 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> /msg name
#2783 [19:41] <Induril> GreyVulpine: I have Trend Micro Maximum Security
#2784 [19:41] <xfighter> Well For some reason my minecraft is not updateing, and I tried force update, but the bar didn't even move
#2785 [19:41] <crackduck> thanks
#2786 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Induril - Do you have admin access to your computer? Is your user account an administrator?
#2787 [19:41] <mariettagecko> xfighter: did it give any sort of error message?
#2788 [19:41] <Induril> yea
#2789 [19:42] <Induril> GreyVulpine: Yea
#2790 [19:42] <crackduck> flight: that one work?
#2791 [19:42] <NaNa> What do I need to do once I've downloaded the suite?
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#2793 [19:42] <xfighter> well it was some kind of update error but it hasn't come up in a while
#2794 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Induril - Hmm, one moment..
#2795 [19:43] <mariettagecko> Hmmm.. Have you recently installed or updated any AV/Firewall software?
#2796 [19:43] <deadfire813> hey i am having lighting issues
#2797 [19:43] <Zappshot> Can anyone help me?
#2798 [19:44] <xfighter> Well my firewall is kaspersky, and I haven't had any issue with it and my minecraft.
#2799 [19:45] <deadfire813> does anyone else have lighting issues such as my boats and chests and my arm keep turning black in game
#2800 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Induril - Chances are, your security software is blocking minecraft/java from downloading. That's what I'm getting from the error report you gave me.
#2801 [19:46] <Induril> I just put both minecraft and java into the exception list
#2802 [19:46] <Induril> but still nothing
#2803 [19:47] <Induril> unless im still doing something wrong
#2804 [19:47] <Thrae> Induril: Try disabling it completely.
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#2806 [19:47] * GreyVulpine agrees
#2806 [19:47] <deadfire813> anyone help me?
#2807 [19:47] <Thrae> Zappshot: What's your problem? Classic not saving?
#2808 [19:48] <Zappshot> Need a help here!
#2809 [19:48] <Zappshot> Yeah.
#2810 [19:48] <Ariakas> deadfire813 i PM'd you
#2811 [19:48] <Zappshot> It won't let me save or load.
#2812 [19:48] <deadfire813> Ariakas i didn't get it
#2813 [19:49] <Induril> 2 seconds
#2814 [19:49] <Induril> nope that didnt work either
#2815 [19:50] <Alphroman_> I need some help when someone is free
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#2817 [19:50] <xfighter> I am at this moment trying to update it and the "updateing Minecraft" screen is up and the bar at the bottom is not moving and it says it is "downloading packages"
#2818 [19:51] <Ariakas> completely disable all antivirus
#2819 [19:51] <Zappshot> It allows me to select a file but when I get back to Classic it still has the randomly gen'd world up...
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#2821 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Induril - Something is blocking java from basically accessing your home directory on windows (where minecraft creates its files)
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#2823 [19:54] <Induril> i dont know what it is, its only happened recently and i havnt downloaded anything that would do that.
#2824 [19:54] <deadfire813> does anyone know about a lighting glitch that turns bosts and chest completly black and or makes the blink in in ouof black>
#2825 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Induril - Have you done a complete minecraft reinstall?
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#2827 [19:56] <Induril> have tried, i still cant connect in fact it makes it worse by not letting me acces any worlds cause i havnt played online with the new install
#2828 [19:56] <Induril> lucky i backed up my world
#2829 [19:59] <Thrae> deadfire813: I've had that happen to myself pre-1.8 with all blocks; haven't played enough of 1.8.x to say
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#2831 [19:59] <Induril> GreyVulpine: have tried, i still cant connect in fact it makes it worse by not letting me acces any worlds cause i havnt played online with the new install
#2832 [20:00] <TK> Can I run minecraft on a mac?
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#2834 [20:00] <TK> Does mine craft work with OS X lion?
#2835 [20:01] <Induril> TK : Yes
#2836 [20:01] <TK> My Java does not seem to connect can anyone help with this
#2837 [20:01] <Induril> having that same problem only on windows
#2838 [20:02] <Alphroman_> When I start minecraft, after the launcher it goes all black and then I get a java error that reads: "javaw.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." Is this common, or is it just me?
#2839 [20:02] <TK> it asks me to run so I click run and the window keeps popping up
#2840 [20:02] <Thrae> TK: Verify Java is working properly -- http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
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#2842 [20:03] <Drokii> anyone good with priv serverS?
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#2844 [20:03] <Thrae> Drokii: What do you mean?
#2845 [20:03] <TK> It says it is running properly
#2846 [20:03] <Drokii> i cant find the wiki for the private server.. maybe you could link me?
#2847 [20:03] <TK> Does anyone play the free version on a mac
#2848 [20:03] <Thrae> ??> TK mac/.minecraft/lion
#2849 [20:03] <VoxelHead> TK: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#2850 [20:04] <Drokii> b/c google has failed me </3
#2851 [20:04] <Thrae> Drokii: Again, what do you mean? There are tons and tons of private servers.
#2852 [20:04] <Thrae> ?? smp/servers
#2853 [20:04] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2854 [20:04] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#2856 [20:04] <Drokii> ive got my own, i was asking if you could link me to the Wiki for priv servers
#2857 [20:04] <crackduck> Thrae: and GrayVulpine: The sound problem magically disappeared. Have no idea why but minecraft.exe decided to dl the files *this time*. So weird.
#2858 [20:04] <Drokii> like commands and such
#2859 [20:05] <TK> what is the mac./minecraft/lion
#2860 [20:05] <Thrae> TK: Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#2861 [20:05] <TK> Ok that will make it work?
#2862 [20:05] <Thrae> TK: Try it and see.
#2863 [20:05] <TK> OK brb
#2864 [20:06] <Thrae> Drokii: http://minecraftwiki.net/ , specifically http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands
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#2867 [20:07] <Alphroman_> When I start minecraft, after the launcher it goes all black and then I get a java error that reads: "javaw.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." Is this common, and is there a fix for it?
#2868 [20:08] <asherlite> hey, for some reason i can't change the world that my server generates.
#2869 [20:08] <TK> Thrae it didn't work java applet asks me to run 4 times and then the window is just black
#2870 [20:09] <adamkex> where is the nether folder located in a minecraft multiplayer server?
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#2872 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> adamkex - /world/dim-1
#2873 [20:09] <deadfire813> i am having lighting gitches here are some photos if you can help please tell me: http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m514/deadfire813/minecraft%20gitches/2011-09-19_170400.png
#2874 [20:09] <asherlite> also i did what the wiki page said and it did not work.
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#2877 [20:10] <Thrae> TK: You're trying to run Classic from your browser?
#2878 [20:10] <fenster> can someone help me
#2879 [20:10] <Skau1> does animals still respawn after they are killed?
#2880 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Skau1 - yes
#2881 [20:10] <Skau1> do*
#2882 [20:11] <Skau1> wow, that was fast
#2883 [20:11] <Skau1> lol
#2884 [20:11] <fenster> can someone help me
#2885 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> fenster - With?
#2886 [20:11] <Skau1> GreyVulpine: doesn't look like it though
#2887 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Skau1 - They do
#2888 [20:11] <fenster> installization
#2889 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> fenster - What is the actual problem or issue you have? Could you elaborate on it? Do you get any errors?
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#2891 [20:12] <Thrae> asherlite: What are you trying to change about your world?
#2892 [20:12] <fenster> i just downloaded the 1.8 update and it loads 95% then stops
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#2894 [20:12] <deadfire813> so can anyone help me with this? photobucket.com/thegitchalbum
#2895 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Done Loading?
#2896 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> fenster - What operating system are you on?
#2897 [20:12] <fenster> yup nut i cant get to the game
#2898 [20:12] <Thrae> Alphroman_: Not a common problem. Uninstall all versions of Java from Programs and Features, then install Java from http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2899 [20:13] <TK> yes classic and browser
#2900 [20:13] <fenster> mac book pro
#2901 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Try VoxelHead's instructions here:
#2902 [20:13] <NaNa> Sorry I went afk for a while. I finished downloading the ATI driver suite.
#2903 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> ??? fenster mac/reinst
#2904 [20:13] <asherlite> well i just want a new random one, so i deleted the world file hoping it would generate a new one but i still have the old one.
#2905 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> ??> fenster mac/reinst
#2906 [20:13] <Alphroman_> Thrae: I've tried that :(
#2907 [20:13] <VoxelHead> fenster: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2908 [20:13] <VoxelHead> fenster: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2909 [20:13] <Skau1> quote from IT crowd.. simple but works most of the time: "Have you tried turning it on and off again?"
#2910 [20:13] <asherlite> ti'm just stuck with a crappy world. and can't get rid of it.
#2911 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> asherlite - Sure you can. Delete the world folder when the server isn't running. Next time you launch the server, it'll generate a new world
#2912 [20:14] <TK> thrae I'm trying classic in safari
#2913 [20:14] <asherlite> yeah, that
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#2915 [20:14] <deadfire813> Thrae can you help me?
#2916 [20:14] <Thrae> TK: Try using Firefox -- http://www.getfirefox.com
#2917 [20:15] <guest-0-18439> I need help installing the [1.8.1]Fossil / Archeology [v4.9] can someone help me?
#2918 [20:15] <asherlite> is what i did because that's how it normaly works, but it didn't go as planned. so now there is no world folder and is still making this crap one come up.
#2919 [20:15] <TK> ok will try
#2920 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> asherlite - Did you change the world folder name in server.properties?
#2921 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> asherlite - If so, that's the folder you need to delete
#2922 [20:15] <fenster> should i downlad it again
#2923 [20:16] <asherlite> no, i didn't think to because i wasn't trying to get a specific world loaded.
#2924 [20:16] <Thrae> deadfire813: Do you have any mods or texture packs installed?
#2925 [20:16] <deadfire813> Thrae can you have a look at my giltches please
#2926 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> asherlite - Pastebin.com the server.properties file, please
#2927 [20:16] <deadfire813> nope
#2928 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> asherlite - Give us the URL to the pastebin after you're done pasting it there
#2929 [20:16] <adamkex> GreyVulpine: thanks
#2930 [20:16] <Thrae> deadfire813: Have you tried deleting the locally installed files and letting Minecraft re-download them?
#2931 [20:16] <deadfire813> http://photobucket.com/thegitchalbum this has all of the glitches i am exprienceing
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#2933 [20:17] <deadfire813> threa do what now?
#2934 [20:17] <Welles> so i cant get on in windows
#2935 [20:17] <Welles> what is going on/
#2936 [20:17] <deadfire813> so delete my bin?
#2937 [20:17] <deadfire813> and everything?
#2938 [20:18] <asherlite> oh i fixed it, it's all good, renaming it in server.properties workedd like a charm.
#2939 [20:18] <Welles> i reinstalled minecraft...even went on the browser...and its just white...
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#2941 [20:18] <Welles> anyone know whats going on?
#2942 [20:18] <Thrae> deadfire813: Delete the "bin" and "resources" folders.
#2943 [20:18] <deadfire813> k
#2944 [20:18] <SecretChurro> Hey can someone answer my question really quick?
#2945 [20:19] <fenster> GreyVulpine i tried what you said and it deleted minecraft
#2946 [20:19] <Welles> anyone?>
#2947 [20:19] <guest-0-18439> They stopped the playing in the windows I think
#2948 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Then relaunch minecraft, it should redownload everything
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#2950 [20:20] <fenster> and how would i do that
#2951 [20:20] <SecretChurro> does anyone know if minecraft is working for mac 10.5.8 yet?
#2952 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Log back in
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#2954 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> SecretChurro - It is not.
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#2956 [20:20] <SecretChurro> darn it. Thanks tho
#2957 [20:20] <SecretChurro> any idea when it will?
#2958 [20:20] <fenster> ok that leads me to next problem
#2959 [20:21] <deadfire813> thrae it did nothing
#2960 [20:21] <TK> firefox is a no go. What is the exact java that I need for the to run
#2961 [20:21] <fenster> does anyone no what user not premium mans
#2962 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Means you haven't paid for an account
#2963 [20:22] <deadfire813> deleting the resources and bin file did nothing
#2964 [20:22] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, hi :)
#2965 [20:22] <Viking667> I seem to have corrected my issues with classic
#2966 [20:22] * |Kiikun| comes back early from school... with SUBWAY!
#2966 [20:22] <|Kiikun|> :D
#2967 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Oooo.. living the high life, eh?
#2968 [20:22] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2969 [20:23] <Thrae> deadfire813: Did you run the launcher and let it re-download?
#2970 [20:23] <Viking667> fenster: did you create a minecraft account, and did you pay for minecraft?
#2971 [20:23] <|Kiikun|> yes.. til hell falls upon my head
#2972 [20:23] <TheNytangel> |Kiikun|, just do your homework now then..
#2973 [20:23] <TK> How can I play for free on OS X.7
#2974 [20:23] <TheNytangel> TK, free is illegal
#2975 [20:23] <deadfire813> yah i force updated it
#2976 [20:23] <Thrae> TK: Did you try the Classic version in Firefox?
#2977 [20:23] <|Kiikun|> :notfree
#2978 [20:23] <Viking667> TK: by playing the classic 0.30 version
#2979 [20:23] <|Kiikun|> aw,,,
#2980 [20:24] <Alphroman_> I tried reinstalling Java and I'm still getting the "javaw.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." error. Any other suggestions?
#2981 [20:24] <TK> I mean in brewer classic help!!
#2982 [20:24] <fenster> yes i crated an account and bought the game but is still being stupid
#2983 [20:24] <Viking667> fenster: what's your minecraft name?
#2984 [20:24] <deadfire813> thrae yah i force updated it
#2985 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Recheck whatever you used to pay for the game. Ensure that there's a record of payment going to Mojang AB.
#2986 [20:24] <Thrae> ??> Alphroman_ win/dxdiag
#2987 [20:24] <VoxelHead> Alphroman_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2988 [20:24] <VoxelHead> Alphroman_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2989 [20:24] <fenster> ihhbbob
#2990 [20:24] <Thrae> deadfire813: And did you login afterwards?
#2991 [20:24] <Welles> OMG WHY IS MINECRAFT CRASHING
#2992 [20:24] <Viking667> !paid ihhbbob
#2993 [20:25] <Welles> i play minecraft for 2 seconds and it lags out....what the hell is happening
#2994 [20:25] <deadfire813> thrae yesir
#2995 [20:25] <Thrae> fenster: Mojang can take up to 5 business days for new accounts.
#2996 [20:25] <Thrae> Welles: "Lags out" or "Logs out"?
#2997 [20:25] <Welles> lags
#2998 [20:25] <Welles> freezes
#2999 [20:25] <Welles> then i minimize...and it wont open
#3000 [20:26] <Alphroman_> Voxel: http://pastebin.com/iM2hJLsd
#3001 [20:26] <Thrae> Welles: Lagging and freezing are two different things. Crashing is yet another different thing. Is it just freezing and "Not Responding"?
#3002 [20:26] <fenster> o ok i just closed a visa card and that was on it:P
#3003 [20:26] <Welles> yes freezing and not responding
#3004 [20:26] <Viking667> fenster: yeah, well don't expect it to be instant. It does take time to get from moneybookers to Mojang.
#3005 [20:26] <Thrae> fenster: The card's bank could have blocked payment. You should contact them.
#3006 [20:27] <fenster> i will
#3007 [20:27] <Viking667> also, check your email. you should have got a receipt
#3008 [20:28] <fenster> ok thank you guys for all of the help
#3009 [20:28] <Viking667> fenster: cool. Hope you become a happy player
#3010 [20:28] <Welles> i get into a game...go to my furnace...right click to use..it takes about 5 seconds to open...then i freezes and doesnt respond
#3011 [20:28] <Viking667> Welles: hm. Did you upgrade to 1.8.1?
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#3013 [20:28] <Welles> im running the browser one
#3014 [20:29] <Viking667> *blink*
#3015 [20:29] <Thrae> Alphroman_: OK you have the latest video card driver, but I don't like how DirectInput crashed when you went to DxDiag. That could indicate other drivers on your computer are malfunctioning. Go to Windows Update and grab all the Critical, Recommended, and Optional updates except Language Packs.
#3016 [20:29] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, why do feet tickle?
#3017 [20:29] <Viking667> try removing what's in your browser cache, and restarting the browser
#3018 [20:29] <deadfire813> threa so i still don't know what to do
#3019 [20:29] <deadfire813> http://photobucket.com/thegitchalbum
#3020 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Because
#3021 [20:29] <deadfire813> cab anyone fix that^
#3022 [20:29] <Welles> its not only the browsers though...it happens in the downloaded one as well
#3023 [20:29] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, "because" is not a reason :P
#3024 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> It is here.
#3025 [20:30] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, but you live in GreyVulpine land
#3026 [20:30] * GreyVulpine renames channel to #greyvulpineland
#3026 [20:30] <Viking667> Welles: when you first click on the minecraft.exe, there's an Options button directly above the Login button. Select that, force the updates (if you haven't already)
#3027 [20:30] <Thrae> deadfire813: Have you tried a different world?
#3028 [20:30] <Viking667> Then see if that fixes things.
#3029 [20:30] <deadfire813> thrae yes
#3030 [20:30] <Welles> Viking667, alright lemme try
#3031 [20:30] <Thrae> deadfire813: Did I ask for your DxDiag?
#3032 [20:31] <Viking667> As a last resort, move your minecraft folder somewhere else, redo what I suggested. You can always put your saves back.
#3033 [20:31] <Viking667> Anyhow, I'm outta here...
#3034 [20:31] <deadfire813> thrae no?
#3035 [20:31] <Viking667> I have to have lunch some time...
#3036 [20:31] <Thrae> ??> deadfire813 win/dxdiag
#3037 [20:31] <VoxelHead> deadfire813: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3038 [20:31] <VoxelHead> deadfire813: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3039 [20:32] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, if I move to GreyVulpine Land, will you give me greater than a .3MB/s download speed?
#3040 [20:32] <deadfire813> oh
#3041 [20:32] <Welles> Viking667, it is still being slow when I open a furnace or large chest =\
#3042 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#3043 [20:33] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, is that a no? :(
#3044 [20:34] <deadfire813> thrae http://pastebin.com/4Zh5LmjB
#3045 [20:34] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ and Notch has tweeted that the OpenGL 1.3 problem on some systems will be fixed for 1.9.
#3046 [20:34] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, will it be better than this? http://www.speedtest.net/result/1491751257.png
#3047 [20:35] <TheNytangel> I pause a youtube video for 10 minutes and get to watch about 30 seconds before it stops again..
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#3049 [20:36] <NaNa> Thrae are you still there?
#3050 [20:36] <Welles> omg...I log into minecraft, I move around, click furnace, takes about 4-5 seconds(usually instant), I go to a large chest and do the same for the furnace..then it gets choppy with moving and such then freezes...i forced updates. deleted my bin/resources and nothing has yet to work
#3051 [20:37] <Thrae> NaNa: Yes?
#3052 [20:38] <deadfire813> thrae did you get my paste bin?
#3053 [20:38] <NaNa> I downloaded the ATI Radeon driver suite like you said.
#3054 [20:38] <NaNa> Is there anything else I need to do?
#3055 [20:38] <Thrae> deadfire813: Intel HD Graphics are known to have buggy OpenGL support. Download and install -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20391/a08/Win7Vista_64_152250.exe
#3056 [20:38] <Thrae> NaNa: After it's done downloading you need to install it, then reboot.
#3057 [20:39] <Welles> "internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException:Read timed out"
#3058 [20:39] <Welles> whats this mean
#3059 [20:39] <Thrae> Welles: That just means you got disconnected from a server.
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#3061 [20:40] <Welles> ah i think i fixed my problem
#3062 [20:40] <Welles> thanks =]
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#3066 [20:50] <mr_trousers> hello i need help!
#3067 [20:50] <Thrae> mr_trousers: With?
#3068 [20:51] <mr_trousers> I got the 1.8 update a few days ago when it came out and it isnt working, i am on my mac so idk if that might have been a bug with the new update but i still cant play
#3069 [20:51] <Thrae> mr_trousers: And what's your OS X version?
#3070 [20:51] <mr_trousers> hmm ugh i forget how can i check?
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#3072 [20:52] <Thrae> mr_trousers: http://www.apple.com/support/mobileme/en/os_version.html
#3073 [20:52] <mr_trousers> thanks hold on 1 second
#3074 [20:52] <mr_trousers> it's 10.5.8
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#3076 [20:54] <Thrae> mr_trousers: Yeah, not a bug in 1.8.x. Mojang updated the requirements on Minecraft to OpenGL 1.3, a technology from ~10 years ago, which many OS X 10.5.8 systems do not support. Notch recently tweeted he's going to fix it in the 1.9 update.
#3077 [20:54] <deadfire813> Thrae thanks so much
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#3079 [20:54] <mr_trousers> ok thanks so u think theres no way i can run it?
#3080 [20:54] <Thrae> mr_trousers: Until then you can use an unofficial mod to Minecraft to remove the OpenGL 1.3 requirement -- http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/
#3081 [20:55] <mr_trousers> ok i actually have 1 other question haha sorry how can i install this mod?
#3082 [20:55] <Thrae> mr_trousers: We haven't tested this mod here and can't really support it.
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#3084 [20:55] <Thrae> mr_trousers: One sec
#3085 [20:55] <mr_trousers> ok
#3086 [20:57] <Thrae> mr_trousers: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8?utm_content=reply_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notification#reply_6684267
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#3089 [20:59] <mr_trousers> thank you so much
#3090 [20:59] <Thrae> mr_trousers: Sure. Hope it works for you.
#3091 [21:00] <mr_trousers> :)
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#3095 [21:02] <NaNa> Hey, I'm back.
#3096 [21:02] <NaNa> Rebooted my computer, but it didn't resolve the issue.
#3097 [21:02] * mib_0pjetz [mib_0pjetz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3098 [21:02] <NaNa> Starting to think it's just a problem with the game.
#3099 [21:03] <mib_0pjetz> can you guys get on to minecraft
#3100 [21:03] <Thrae> NaNa: You mean the locally installed files? Did you try reinstalling them? Also, give us your DxDiag again.
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#3102 [21:04] <mib_0pjetz> can any1 help me?
#3103 [21:04] <NaNa> I downloaded the driver updates and rebooted, but I'm having the same problem.
#3104 [21:04] <|Kiikun|> mib_0pjetz: you mean log in?
#3105 [21:04] <NaNa> Hold on, will get the system info.
#3106 [21:04] <mib_0pjetz> no
#3107 [21:04] * |Kiikun| logs in with nary a delay
#3107 [21:04] <mib_0pjetz> i mean that i cant get onto minecraft
#3108 [21:04] <mib_0pjetz> not in the browser or the app
#3109 [21:04] <|Kiikun|> mib_0pjetz: explain please
#3110 [21:04] <mib_0pjetz> when i go in the browser it says error
#3111 [21:04] <Massani_MkII> I've been experiencing a problem with loggin in, whenever I attempt to I get a "Login Failed" error. I know it's not that my username and password is wrong as I reset them
#3112 [21:04] <Massani_MkII> and the problem persists
#3113 [21:04] <|Kiikun|> ?? specific
#3114 [21:04] <mib_0pjetz> when i go in the app it just blacks out
#3115 [21:05] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#3116 [21:05] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#3117 [21:05] <Thrae> mib_0pjetz: Paste the full error to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#3118 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Massani_MkII - Redownload the launcher
#3119 [21:05] <TheNytangel> |Kiikun|, SPEED UP MY STUPID INTERWEBZ
#3120 [21:05] <Thrae> Massani_MkII: Download the latest launcher
#3121 [21:05] <Massani_MkII> I can just get the latest launcher from the site?
#3122 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3123 [21:06] <mib_0pjetz> my problem
#3124 [21:06] <NaNa> Okay, here's the dxdiag http://pastebin.com/zDs17tM7
#3125 [21:06] <|Kiikun|> nyt: no. my speed >:P
#3126 [21:06] <mib_0pjetz> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 9/19/11 9:05 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Mac OS X (i386) version 10.5.8 Java: 1.5.0_28, Apple Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Apple Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)] java.lang.IllegalStateException: Shutdown in progress at java
#3127 [21:06] <Massani_MkII> On the front page, just hit "download beta", correct?
#3128 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3129 [21:06] <Thrae> mib_0pjetz: Paste the full error message to www.pastebin.com and give us the link. Do not paste it in here.
#3130 [21:06] <Massani_MkII> thank you very much.
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#3132 [21:07] <TheNytangel`> GODDAMMIT
#3133 [21:08] <NaNa> Here it is again in case it was missed. http://pastebin.com/zDs17tM7
#3134 [21:08] <Thrae> NaNa: Driver wasn't updated.
#3135 [21:08] <NaNa> Oh gosh. haha
#3136 [21:08] <NaNa> Can I get the link again?
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#3138 [21:09] <mudpit> ok im back but with a new name
#3139 [21:09] <NaNa> I was afk while it was dl'ing so that's probably why.
#3140 [21:09] * mib_4hgk9b [mib_4hgk9b@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3141 [21:09] <mudpit> here is the error link
#3142 [21:09] <mudpit> http://pastebin.com/1rycpiPD
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#3144 [21:10] <Thrae> NaNa: Download and install Driver Sweeper -- http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html . Uninstall the ATI Catalyst graphics drivers from Programs and Features, then reboot into Safe Mode. Run Driver Sweeper and remove all traces of ATI Catalyst / ATI Graphics Drivers / AMD Graphics drivers. Reboot again and install the Catalyst suite from http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_vista-32.aspx
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#3146 [21:10] <Robbtytty> Can someone help me please?
#3147 [21:10] <mudpit> wat do you need help with
#3148 [21:10] <NaNa> Okay. Thanks a lot.
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#3150 [21:11] <mudpit> hello?
#3151 [21:11] <Thrae> mudpit: You only have Java 5 on your computer. You need at least Java 6.
#3152 [21:11] <Robbtytty> Every time i try to play minecraft it basically tells me my video card is crap.
#3153 [21:11] <NaNa> Just out of curiosity, has this helped other people with the same problem?
#3154 [21:11] <Thrae> Robbtytty: Windows?
#3155 [21:11] <mudpit> not me
#3156 [21:11] <Robbtytty> oops
#3157 [21:11] <NaNa> As far as black screen --->java error report.
#3158 [21:11] <Thrae> NaNa: Yes, usually fixes it. Your problem is atypical.
#3159 [21:11] <NaNa> Alright, that makes me feel better. Thanks again.
#3160 [21:12] <mudpit> wait
#3161 [21:12] <mudpit> WAIT
#3162 [21:12] <mudpit> person
#3163 [21:12] <mudpit> nana
#3164 [21:12] <mudpit> are you still here
#3165 [21:12] <NaNa> Yeah?
#3166 [21:12] <mudpit> ?????
#3167 [21:12] <Thrae> mudpit: What version of OS X?
#3168 [21:12] <mudpit> hold on
#3169 [21:12] <mudpit> version 10.5.8
#3170 [21:13] <mudpit> and i cant play minecraft
#3171 [21:13] <mudpit> it gives me a black screen
#3172 [21:13] <mudpit> or an error report
#3173 [21:13] <mudpit> here is the link to it
#3174 [21:13] <mudpit> http://pastebin.com/1rycpiPD
#3175 [21:13] <Thrae> mudpit: There's currently a problem with 10.5.8 OS X not supporting OpenGL 1.3, a version released ~10 years ago.
#3176 [21:13] <mudpit> hmm so i need to update it?
#3177 [21:14] <NaNa> Yeah mudpit sorry I'm using windows.
#3178 [21:14] <mudpit> not me
#3179 [21:14] <mudpit> i dont like macs
#3180 [21:14] <mudpit> but its what i have right now
#3181 [21:14] <mudpit> but thrae
#3182 [21:14] <Thrae> mudpit: Do you have any Software Updates to download?
#3183 [21:15] <mudpit> umm hold on
#3184 [21:15] <mudpit> checking....
#3185 [21:15] <Thrae> mudpit: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1359 <-- here we go
#3186 [21:16] <mudpit> what?
#3187 [21:16] <mudpit> theres a java update
#3188 [21:16] <mudpit> in my updates
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#3190 [21:16] <mudpit> i guess i should update that eh?
#3191 [21:16] <Thrae> mudpit: Grab it. Your Java is very out of date.
#3192 [21:17] <mudpit> i will come back but it looks like you helped me
#3193 [21:17] <mudpit> *praises*
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#3195 [21:17] <AG_Scott> I found Java 1.6.0_27 in Apple's developer stuff the other day.
#3196 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> yay?
#3197 [21:17] <Thrae> AG_Scott: Yeah, I noticed they linked developer.apple.com, but I can't enter that part of the site.
#3198 [21:17] <AG_Scott> They said they wouldn't update anymore.
#3199 [21:17] <AG_Scott> I can :P
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#3201 [21:18] <AG_Scott> It has this "Apple Confidential" notice though D:
#3202 [21:19] <mudpit> so thrae
#3203 [21:19] <Thrae> I think it's a bigger groan that Apple only allows the driver updates with newer OS versions.
#3204 [21:19] <mudpit> this update should make it work?
#3205 [21:19] <Thrae> mudpit: Possibly. Come back if it doesn't.
#3206 [21:20] <Thrae> AG_Scott: Did you see the OpenGL 1.3 fix from Travis?
#3207 [21:20] <mudpit> ok then
#3208 [21:20] <AG_Scott> No.
#3209 [21:20] <Robbtytty> Everytime i go to load minecraft, it stops and says: "Bad video card drivers!"
#3210 [21:20] <Robbtytty> is there a way i can fix this?
#3211 [21:20] <Thrae> Robbtytty: I asked you if you were using Windows.
#3212 [21:20] <AG_Scott> Thrae: Driver updates come through as software updates.
#3213 [21:20] <Robbtytty> oh, sorry. i didn't see
#3214 [21:20] <Robbtytty> yes, i am using vista.
#3215 [21:20] <mudpit> didnt work....
#3216 [21:21] <mudpit> :(
#3217 [21:21] <mudpit> :'(
#3218 [21:21] <AG_Scott> I just updated my thunderbolt firmware a few days ago. ;P
#3219 [21:21] <mudpit> :,(
#3220 [21:21] <Robbtytty> tried just about everything, idk if i have to update my drivers
#3221 [21:21] <Robbtytty> if so, idk how.
#3222 [21:21] <Thrae> ??> Robbtytty win/dxdiag
#3223 [21:21] <VoxelHead> Robbtytty: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3224 [21:21] <VoxelHead> Robbtytty: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3225 [21:22] <Robbtytty> ty
#3226 [21:22] <mudpit> yes it doesnt work heres the error report
#3227 [21:22] <mudpit> http://pastebin.com/4jp6e0XS
#3228 [21:22] <mudpit> thats it
#3229 [21:22] <Thrae> AG_Scott: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/
#3230 [21:22] <AG_Scott> I wonder if anyone has notified Apple Engineering of the graphics bug with Intel graphics.
#3231 [21:23] <mudpit> i dont know if they would care.
#3232 [21:23] <AG_Scott> They would :P
#3233 [21:23] <mudpit> maybe
#3234 [21:23] <AG_Scott> I'm currently working on a very odd issue with them lol
#3235 [21:23] <mudpit> ......
#3236 [21:23] <mudpit> huh well me 2
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#3238 [21:23] <Thrae> AG_Scott: I thought 10.6 fixed the issue with updated drivers available for it.
#3239 [21:23] <mudpit> ive got a black screen
#3240 [21:23] <AG_Scott> I don't have a mac with Intel graphics.
#3241 [21:23] <mudpit> i just updated java
#3242 [21:23] <Thrae> mudpit: What type of Mac is this?
#3243 [21:24] <mudpit> but it didnt do much
#3244 [21:24] <AG_Scott> No idea Thrae...
#3245 [21:24] <AG_Scott> I don't have any way to test it.
#3246 [21:24] <mudpit> hmmm
#3247 [21:24] <Thrae> mudpit: OK, your error STILL says you're using Java 5
#3248 [21:24] <AG_Scott> With Intel graphics, stuff shows up black instead of the way it should in-game. I think you're talking about something different.
#3249 [21:24] <mudpit> macbook
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#3251 [21:25] <Thrae> mudpit: You want to download this -- http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1359
#3252 [21:25] <Robbtytty> alright
#3253 [21:25] <Robbtytty> did you want me to post it here or on that link?
#3254 [21:26] <Thrae> Robbtytty: Post the link here.
#3255 [21:26] <Robbtytty> ok
#3256 [21:26] <mudpit> what is it
#3257 [21:26] * mib_1h0j7r [mib_1h0j7r@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3258 [21:26] <Thrae> mudpit: Java Update for 10.5
#3259 [21:26] <mudpit> but didnt i just download that?
#3260 [21:26] <Thrae> mudpit: Apparently not
#3261 [21:27] <mudpit> well then i will do as so
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#3263 [21:27] <mib_m6yfvx> hello
#3264 [21:27] <mudpit> i like the people on this site
#3265 [21:28] <mudpit> their very helpful\
#3266 [21:28] <mudpit> :)
#3267 [21:28] <Thrae> mib_m6yfvx: Hi
#3268 [21:28] <mib_m6yfvx> is this where i report minecraft bugs?
#3269 [21:28] <mib_m6yfvx> i found a bug
#3270 [21:28] <mudpit> apperently so
#3271 [21:28] <Thrae> mib_m6yfvx: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#3272 [21:28] <Robbtytty> here it is http://pastebin.com/dU8Nkyxh
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#3274 [21:28] <mib_m6yfvx> its an easy fix i'd assume
#3275 [21:28] <mib_m6yfvx> pretty much
#3276 [21:28] <mib_m6yfvx> you cant pick up fish
#3277 [21:29] <Thrae> No developers from Mojang are in this channel.
#3278 [21:29] <mib_m6yfvx> so
#3279 [21:29] <mib_m6yfvx> does that mean i should report that ltr?
#3280 [21:29] <mudpit> are you bots or people?
#3281 [21:29] <mib_m6yfvx> rofl
#3282 [21:29] <|Kiikun|> . . .
#3283 [21:29] <mib_m6yfvx> i'd call u an idiot but that wouldnt be nice
#3284 [21:29] <Thrae> mib_m6yfvx: This is not a channel for reporting bugs. I gave you where you should report it -- http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#3285 [21:29] <mib_m6yfvx> do bots talk?
#3286 [21:29] <mib_m6yfvx> lol
#3287 [21:29] <mudpit> yes
#3288 [21:29] <Thrae> ?? bot
#3289 [21:30] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, sometimes a sock-puppet, but never an independant helper.
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#3291 [21:30] <mib_m6yfvx> i mean like, respond to people
#3292 [21:30] <Thrae> See, he's talking ^^^^
#3293 [21:30] <mudpit> yes they do
#3294 [21:30] <|Kiikun|> VoxelHead: eat mudpit.
#3295 [21:30] <|Kiikun|> aw..
#3296 [21:30] <mudpit> rotflmfao
#3297 [21:30] <mib_m6yfvx> drop the t
#3298 [21:30] <mib_m6yfvx> lol
#3299 [21:30] <|Kiikun|> his chatterbot functionws must be off in here :/
#3300 [21:30] <mib_m6yfvx> that just isnt used in that :P
#3301 [21:30] <mib_m6yfvx> whoa
#3302 [21:30] <Thrae> Robbtytty: OK, a few problems with your system.
#3303 [21:30] <mib_m6yfvx> thats a cool colon P
#3304 [21:30] <mib_m6yfvx> :P
#3305 [21:31] <mib_m6yfvx> how about :D
#3306 [21:31] <mib_m6yfvx> oooooh
#3307 [21:31] <Robbtytty> k.
#3308 [21:31] <mib_m6yfvx> o.o
#3309 [21:31] <mib_m6yfvx> aw that doesnt work
#3310 [21:31] <mib_m6yfvx> how bout :o
#3311 [21:31] <mib_m6yfvx> xD
#3312 [21:31] <mib_m6yfvx> lololol
#3313 [21:31] <mudpit> :D
#3314 [21:31] * |Kiikun| whistles
#3314 [21:31] <mib_m6yfvx> wait
#3315 [21:31] <mib_m6yfvx> is wug in here?
#3316 [21:31] <Thrae> Robbtytty: Your system is horribly out-of-date. Go to Windows Update and get all the Critical and Recommended updates.
#3317 [21:31] <|Kiikun|> no, that was me :P
#3318 [21:32] <mib_m6yfvx> o.o
#3319 [21:32] <mib_m6yfvx> :l
#3320 [21:32] <Thrae> Robbtytty: You don't even have Service Pack 2 on there.
#3321 [21:32] <mib_m6yfvx> :(
#3322 [21:32] <mudpit> is there anything else to do but start up minecraft after it says install completed?
#3323 [21:32] <mib_m6yfvx> :)
#3324 [21:32] <mib_m6yfvx> :o
#3325 [21:32] <mib_m6yfvx> :x
#3326 [21:32] <Robbtytty> Ah, this is because i had to restore my computer to factory settings.
#3327 [21:32] <mib_m6yfvx> lol
#3328 [21:32] <Robbtytty> how do i do this?
#3329 [21:32] <mib_m6yfvx> x_x = dead mario
#3330 [21:32] <|Kiikun|> Robbtytty: www.windowsupdate.com
#3331 [21:32] <mib_m6yfvx> lol
#3332 [21:32] <mudpit> thrae
#3333 [21:32] <Robbtytty> alright, tyvm.
#3334 [21:33] <Thrae> Robbtytty: Also grab the Suite off of http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#3335 [21:33] <Thrae> mudpit: Yep. Go ahead and try Minecraft again.
#3336 [21:33] <Thrae> Robbtytty: Windows Update is in the Control Panel.
#3337 [21:33] <Robbtytty> alright
#3338 [21:33] <Robbtytty> thanks
#3339 [21:33] <Robbtytty> :)
#3340 [21:34] <mudpit> :(
#3341 [21:34] <mudpit> :(
#3342 [21:34] <mudpit> :(
#3343 [21:34] <mudpit> :(
#3344 [21:34] <NaNa> Sorry, went AFK again for a while. I checked under programs and features and all I found was ATI Catalyst install manager.
#3345 [21:34] <mudpit> didnt wrok
#3346 [21:34] <mudpit> work
#3347 [21:34] <|Kiikun|> Thrae: the link i gave WAS valad :P its one of the 500000 domains microsoft owns.
#3348 [21:35] <Thrae> NaNa: Yeah go ahead and remove that, then go into Safe Mode and use Driver Sweeper to remove the rest.
#3349 [21:35] <mudpit> thrae here is the link to the error report :(
#3350 [21:35] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: I know, I started typing that as you sent that message, and that website will say to go to the Control Panel anyway ;)
#3351 [21:35] <NaNa> Alright.
#3352 [21:35] <mudpit> http://pastebin.com/wY0CXczW
#3353 [21:36] <|Kiikun|> Thrae: actually.. on vista and 7 it opens the window :P and on xp it will update the windows update stuff
#3354 [21:36] <mudpit> :(
#3355 [21:36] <mudpit> :"(
#3356 [21:36] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: Hmm I haven't been there in a while. Last time I was there a few years ago it just told me to go to the Control Panel (on Windows 7).
#3357 [21:37] <|Kiikun|> yup :P
#3358 [21:37] <NaNa> Sorry, which key do I need to press when I reboot the computer to access the safe mode option?
#3359 [21:37] <Thrae> AG_Scott: Can you help mudpit install Java 6 on 10.5.8? His error reports keep showing he's using Java 5.
#3360 [21:37] <Thrae> NaNa: F8, before the Windows logo appears
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#3362 [21:37] <NaNa> Alright thanks.
#3363 [21:37] <Welles> wow...can you seriously not change your username once chosen?
#3364 [21:37] <mudpit> ag scott
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#3366 [21:38] <mudpit> AG_Scott
#3367 [21:38] <Thrae> Welles: You can't change your Minecraft username, no.
#3368 [21:38] <|Kiikun|> Welles: not yet. unless you had a space in it
#3369 [21:38] <AG_Scott> I'm busy!
#3370 [21:38] <Thrae> Well it seems he's busy.
#3371 [21:38] <|Kiikun|> ...lol
#3372 [21:38] <Welles> i spelled my name wrong and now i cant change
#3373 [21:38] <Welles> -.-
#3374 [21:38] <mudpit> well then
#3375 [21:38] <|Kiikun|> Welles: did you buy the account already?
#3376 [21:38] <AG_Scott> You can buy the game again.
#3377 [21:39] <Welles> yes
#3378 [21:39] <AG_Scott> If you haven't bought it yet, just create a new account and buy it.
#3379 [21:39] <Welles> bought and all
#3380 [21:39] <mudpit> hmm
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#3382 [21:39] <Thrae> mudpit: Well just to be sure, let's see if it's another problem with 10.5.8....
#3383 [21:40] <Alphroman> Thrae: I did all the windows update things. it didnt work :(
#3384 [21:40] <mudpit> ah i have to quit all applications before doing the update
#3385 [21:40] <mudpit> so i will be back
#3386 [21:40] <mudpit> byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
#3387 [21:41] <Thrae> Alphroman: What's your system date and time?
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#3389 [21:41] <Thrae> Alphroman: Do you have a ! in your Windows username?
#3390 [21:41] <Alphroman> Sept 19, 2011 9:42pm
#3391 [21:41] <Ninjaboltz> Can any one help me with paying for minecraft?
#3392 [21:41] <Alphroman> Im downloading a windows program to test my RAM
#3393 [21:42] <Ninjaboltz> nvm
#3394 [21:43] * |Kiikun| prefers MemTest86 running overnight to test ram...
#3394 [21:43] * Thrae agrees, but uses Memtest86+
#3394 [21:43] <|Kiikun|> whichever one it is :P gets bundled with most linux distros
#3395 [21:44] <Alphroman> Memtest86
#3396 [21:44] <Alphroman> gotcha
#3397 [21:44] <Alphroman> I just read someone else suggests it
#3398 [21:44] <Thrae> Starting with Windows Vista you also have a Memory Diagnostic tool which is decent, just set it to like 9999 passes
#3399 [21:44] <Alphroman> I'm pretty sure it's either RAM or one of my video cards
#3400 [21:45] <Alphroman> because Starcraft 2 and Team Fortress 2 give me graphics errors and then crash
#3401 [21:45] <Alphroman> my whole system locks up
#3402 [21:45] <Thrae> Alphroman: Sounds like it's more likely your graphics card. I'd run Driver Sweeper and uninstall your graphics drivers completely, then install the latest from your chipset manufacturer's website.
#3403 [21:46] <Alphroman> sounds good
#3404 [21:46] <Thrae> Alphroman: http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html , run in Safe Mode
#3405 [21:46] <Alphroman> alright, I shall return!!
#3406 [21:47] <Alphroman> hopefully with good news :D
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#3409 [21:47] <|Kiikun|> or pie! we like pie!
#3410 [21:47] <|Kiikun|> aw... too late
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#3412 [21:49] <mib_zvm2we> hey
#3413 [21:49] <mib_zvm2we> im back
#3414 [21:49] <mib_zvm2we> mudpit
#3415 [21:49] <mib_zvm2we> well i got a new error report
#3416 [21:49] <mib_zvm2we> hello
#3417 [21:50] <Thrae> mib_zvm2we: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ for the fix, http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8?utm_content=reply_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notification#reply_6684267 for instructions
#3418 [21:50] <mib_zvm2we> http://pastebin.com/T20AdnJ6
#3419 [21:50] <Thrae> mib_zvm2we: Try that.
#3420 [21:50] <mib_zvm2we> kk
#3421 [21:51] <Thrae> mib_zvm2we: And you're STILL using Java 5.
#3422 [21:51] <mib_zvm2we> HOW
#3423 [21:51] <mib_zvm2we> OMG
#3424 [21:51] <mib_zvm2we> HOW
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#3426 [21:51] <mib_zvm2we> :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
#3427 [21:52] <reflexb> Good morning everyone
#3428 [21:52] <mib_zvm2we> i do not understand
#3429 [21:52] <mib_zvm2we> how i am still using java 5
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#3432 [21:54] <reflexb> Is the game randomly crashing with a Java runtime has stopped working message a "known issue"?
#3433 [21:54] <guest-0-39189> hey i am having trouble connecting to update my minecraft
#3434 [21:54] <guest-0-39189> i preordered the game forever ago
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#3436 [21:55] <guest-0-39189> i read something about premium accounts, did i need to upgrade to be able to update or should my preorder always work
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#3441 [22:00] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-39189: if you purchased the game, you account should have been flagged as premium. nothing should ever remove that flag.
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#3444 [22:01] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-39189: what is the error you get when connecting? exact line please
#3445 [22:01] <guest-0-39189> Login Failed
#3446 [22:02] <guest-0-39189> then an option to play offline or retry
#3447 [22:02] <guest-0-39189> does a prepurchase count for flagging to premium?
#3448 [22:02] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-39189: your launcher show minecraft news?
#3449 [22:03] <guest-0-39189> no
#3450 [22:03] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-39189: prepurchase means you baught alpha or beta.. ah theres your prob
#3451 [22:03] <guest-0-39189> just brown dirt that says minecraft launcher
#3452 [22:03] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-39189: old launcher doesnt work anymore
#3453 [22:03] <|Kiikun|> !client
#3454 [22:03] <guest-0-39189> ah so i havent bought the actual game then?
#3455 [22:03] <guest-0-39189> or i just need the new client
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#3457 [22:03] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-39189: you need the new client
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#3459 [22:04] <skippydippy> OK
#3460 [22:04] <skippydippy> mudpit here
#3461 [22:04] <skippydippy> IVE HAD IT
#3462 [22:04] <guest-0-39189> oh nice
#3463 [22:04] <guest-0-39189> it works
#3464 [22:04] <guest-0-39189> thanks
#3465 [22:04] <|Kiikun|> no prob :3
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#3467 [22:04] <skippydippy> ive updated java several times restarted my system and IT STILL DOESNT WROK
#3468 [22:04] <skippydippy> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
#3469 [22:05] <skippydippy> *on the edge of insanity*
#3470 [22:05] <skippydippy> can someone please actually solve this prob
#3471 [22:06] <skippydippy> here is the error report
#3472 [22:07] <|Kiikun|> skippydippy: you havent described a problem. you described steps to SOLVE a problem.
#3473 [22:07] <skippydippy> http://pastebin.com/cGCiLHAC
#3474 [22:07] <skippydippy> ah yes well it gave me a black screen
#3475 [22:07] <|Kiikun|> ah... mac 10.5.8...
#3476 [22:07] <skippydippy> that ment that i needed to update my java
#3477 [22:07] <|Kiikun|> your still using java 1.5
#3478 [22:08] <|Kiikun|> unless thats an old error log
#3479 [22:08] <skippydippy> MOTHER F&*KER
#3480 [22:08] <skippydippy> just bullshit
#3481 [22:08] <|Kiikun|> ?? getjavax
#3482 [22:08] <|Kiikun|> o.o;
#3483 [22:10] <TheNytangel> ??> |Kiikun| index
#3484 [22:10] <VoxelHead> |Kiikun|: (index) See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#3485 [22:11] <|Kiikun|> yeah.. im there... and it SHOWS i
#3486 [22:11] <|Kiikun|> it
#3487 [22:11] <TheNytangel> ??> |Kiikun| getjava
#3488 [22:11] <VoxelHead> |Kiikun|: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
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#3491 [22:12] <TheNytangel> ??< getjavax
#3492 [22:12] <TheNytangel> ??- getjava
#3493 [22:12] <TheNytangel> O.o I don't want that..
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#3498 [22:21] <minelover1234> hello?
#3499 [22:21] <|Kiikun|> hi
#3500 [22:22] <minelover1234> AuBot?
#3501 [22:22] <|Kiikun|> Soory, I'm not AuBot.
#3502 [22:22] <minelover1234> can ANY one help?
#3503 [22:22] <minelover1234> no not u
#3504 [22:23] <|Kiikun|> ?? ww
#3505 [22:23] <VoxelHead> ww: Help you with what?
#3506 [22:23] <minelover1234> ww?
#3507 [22:23] <|Kiikun|> ?? bot
#3508 [22:23] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, sometimes a sock-puppet, but never an independant helper.
#3509 [22:23] <minelover1234> oh nvm
#3510 [22:24] <TheNoodle> lol kiikun.
#3511 [22:24] <minelover1234> with the game or graphic card
#3512 [22:24] <|Kiikun|> TheNoodle: :P
#3513 [22:24] <|Kiikun|> ?? specific
#3514 [22:24] <|Kiikun|> ARGH!
#3515 [22:24] <TheNoodle> So minelover1234, I take it you don't want Kiikuns help?
#3516 [22:24] <|Kiikun|> ??> minelover1234 specific
#3517 [22:24] <VoxelHead> minelover1234: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#3518 [22:24] <VoxelHead> minelover1234: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
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#3520 [22:25] * |Kiikun| cant help if he doesnt know what the problem is specificly.
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#3521 [22:26] <|Kiikun|> hiyas Kealper
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#3523 [22:28] <minelover1234> i dont know just as long someone can help me
#3524 [22:29] <|Kiikun|> minelover1234: ... you DONT know what your problem is? that sounds a bit meta to be asking help for <.<
#3525 [22:31] <InquisitorFrollo> I'm having problems with the launcher. Neither the Login nor the Option buttons are responding.
#3526 [22:31] <InquisitorFrollo> anybody have any idea what could be causing that?
#3527 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> InquisitorFrollo: its not even giving the 'pressed' anim?
#3528 [22:31] <InquisitorFrollo> Both buttons are also only displaying their outlines, the center of the buttons are just background texture
#3529 [22:32] <InquisitorFrollo> Kiikun: No, it is being pressed
#3530 [22:32] <InquisitorFrollo> It just doesn't do anything
#3531 [22:32] <InquisitorFrollo> The game runs fine in browser
#3532 [22:32] <|Kiikun|> ooh... um... redownload the launcher? sounds corupted to me
#3533 [22:32] <InquisitorFrollo> already did
#3534 [22:32] <InquisitorFrollo> Also deleted my .minecraft folder and re-installed via play-in-browser
#3535 [22:32] <|Kiikun|> ??> InquisitorFrollo java/version
#3536 [22:33] <VoxelHead> InquisitorFrollo: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#3537 [22:33] <VoxelHead> InquisitorFrollo: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3538 [22:33] <InquisitorFrollo> Your Java version: Version 6 Update 26
#3539 [22:35] <|Kiikun|> ok.. your video drivers up to date?
#3540 [22:36] <|Kiikun|> otherwise im thinking your java might have borked.
#3541 [22:36] <InquisitorFrollo> Given that's nothing changed since last time I played I would assume so
#3542 [22:36] <InquisitorFrollo> Hrm.
#3543 [22:36] <InquisitorFrollo> I'll try a general restart
#3544 [22:36] <InquisitorFrollo> Brb if it doesn't work
#3545 [22:36] <|Kiikun|> yeah. try that.
#3546 [22:36] <|Kiikun|> ok :3
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#3555 [23:05] <FoolWhip> hello?
#3556 [23:05] <|Kiikun|> hi
#3557 [23:06] <FoolWhip> hey :D
#3558 [23:06] * |Kiikun| just got tired of dying in Sea of Flame 2
#3558 [23:07] * FoolWhip is struggling to get his server converted to 1.8
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#3559 [23:08] <|Kiikun|> theres a few new options in the server properties
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#3561 [23:08] <FoolWhip> yeah
#3562 [23:09] <FoolWhip> my friend gave me access to the server, so I could look into doing the update. Im unfortunately still trying to locate our actual data.. I've loaded a bunch of maps that are just... not right.
#3563 [23:10] <|Kiikun|> so this is a hosted server?
#3564 [23:11] <FoolWhip> CI
#3565 [23:11] <FoolWhip> yes
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#3567 [23:11] <Thrae> Running Bukkit?
#3568 [23:12] <FoolWhip> i do not know
#3569 [23:12] <|Kiikun|> bukkit isnt... recomened yet for 1.8
#3570 [23:12] <FoolWhip> the server is still running on 1.7.3
#3571 [23:12] <|Kiikun|> is it minecraftserver.jar or craftbukkit.jar? :P
#3572 [23:12] <FoolWhip> minecraft
#3573 [23:13] <|Kiikun|> then 'update' should simply be replacing the 1.7.3 jar with the one currently on the site. new chunks will generate at edge.
#3574 [23:13] <|Kiikun|> unless your doing the mcedit think to delete chunks that dont have houses in them
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#3576 [23:14] <FoolWhip> hmm
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#3578 [23:15] <animerockfreak> anyone know something about setting up servers?
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#3580 [23:15] <|Kiikun|> animerockfreak: a bit.
#3581 [23:16] <|Kiikun|> ??> animerockfreak smp/serversetup
#3582 [23:16] <VoxelHead> animerockfreak: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#3583 [23:16] <VoxelHead> animerockfreak: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#3584 [23:16] <animerockfreak> i have set my port forwar it is open but i can't seem too join using my external ip. When i enter it into the server list it just says "can't reach server"
#3585 [23:16] <|Kiikun|> animerockfreak: server running now?
#3586 [23:16] <animerockfreak> yes
#3587 [23:16] <|Kiikun|> !check 68.52.131.138
#3588 [23:17] <Hardcorebonner> I can't play minecraft, I launch the game and all I can see is mountains and mountains of blocks. Plus some trees and the blue sea with some blocks appearing through the water.
#3589 [23:18] <reflexb> Are you in Europe? Do you need an adapter?
#3590 [23:18] <|Kiikun|> animerockfreak: your servers set up fine.
#3591 [23:18] <|Kiikun|> animerockfreak: since your playing on the computer with the server, use localhost as the ip
#3592 [23:19] <|Kiikun|> animerockfreak: some routers dislike redirecting back into the network with the external ip :P
#3593 [23:19] <animerockfreak> ahh ok
#3594 [23:19] <animerockfreak> and here i thought its not up >.<
#3595 [23:19] <animerockfreak> thx guys
#3596 [23:19] <|Kiikun|> no prob :D
#3597 [23:19] <animerockfreak> have fun
#3598 [23:20] <|Kiikun|> Hardcorebonner: um... screenshot?
#3599 [23:20] <Hardcorebonner> hey guys :D
#3600 [23:20] <FoolWhip> hmm, ok. So I want to verify the server currently has our old map running on it - Im using a map viewer called Eihort. What would the file path be for the map on the server?
#3601 [23:20] <reflexb> Kiikun, 1.8.1 is the current version, and the same version that's been current for the last few days, right?
#3602 [23:20] <|Kiikun|> FoolWhip: dunno :D i'd asume its in the ~/ directyory somewhere
#3603 [23:21] <Thrae> Hardcorebonner: Please change your nickname. /nick somethingelse
#3604 [23:21] <Hardcorebonner> Umm, I can't play minecraft, I launch the game and all I can see is mountains and mountains of blocks. Plus some trees and the blue sea with some blocks appearing through the water.Then I could destroy blocks and build new stuff. Is this normal?
#3605 [23:21] <|Kiikun|> reflexb: yeah. 1.8.1 was released a few days ago
#3606 [23:21] <Hardcorebonner> ok sorry
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#3608 [23:22] <|Kiikun|> Thrae: i was just asuming he REALLY liked skeletons :P
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#3611 [23:22] * |Kiikun| gasps!
#3611 [23:22] <|Kiikun|> ...
#3612 [23:22] <|Kiikun|> ok not for that
#3613 [23:23] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: Or someone named "Bonner", it's a common last name
#3614 [23:23] * |Kiikun| never realised Turner Broadcasting System hung out in here!
#3614 [23:23] <Thrae> Well, uncommon last name
#3615 [23:23] <reflexb> I updated two days ago, and have been having random crashes. The game window closes suddenly, and a Java Environment has stopped working window appears. Been trying to reproduce the issue for the exact message for a few hours, but no such luck.
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#3617 [23:24] <Iamnotaminecraftmoderator> hello
#3618 [23:24] <Thrae> reflexb: OK, are you running Windows?
#3619 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> Iamnotaminecraftmoderator: we can tell :P
#3620 [23:24] <reflexb> I was running Java v 6 26, upgraded to v6 on Win7
#3621 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> Iamnotaminecraftmoderator: we can also tell youre not notch :P
#3622 [23:24] <Thrae> ??> reflexb win/dxdiag
#3623 [23:24] <VoxelHead> reflexb: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3624 [23:24] <VoxelHead> reflexb: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3625 [23:24] <reflexb> *upgraded to Java v6 27
#3626 [23:25] <FoolWhip> what server are we on here?
#3627 [23:25] <Thrae> reflexb: Follow those instructions so we can see your hardware.
#3628 [23:25] <Thrae> FoolWhip: EsperNet.
#3629 [23:25] <Shado_Fang> hiya, ran into another problem and i'd like some advice. i recently installed the water shader mod a few minutes ago, took it for a test drive, messed with the setting till i got it how i liked, then i try a new map for testing. few minutes in the map, my pc freezes up completly. i have a few other mods installed, mainly toomanyitems and rei's minimap, and was using the default texture
#3630 [23:25] <Thrae> Shado_Fang: Does this happen without mods?
#3631 [23:25] <Thrae> ?? mods
#3632 [23:25] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#3633 [23:25] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#3634 [23:26] <adamkex> how can i respawn animals? they never seem to respawn
#3635 [23:26] <Iamnotaminecraftmoderator> |Kiikun| yeah i said i was not notch... then i was banned :(
#3636 [23:26] <Shado_Fang> Trae: i haven't tested it without any mods. its just a random ocurance since i'm just playing at random times, i have other things to take care of presently
#3637 [23:26] <|Kiikun|> Iamnotaminecraftmoderator: its an autoban
#3638 [23:27] <Thrae> Shado_Fang: Well you're free to ask on #risucraft. We can only help here if it happens without mods.
#3639 [23:27] <Shado_Fang> k, ty
#3640 [23:27] <Thrae> Iamnotaminecraftmoderator: The bots have no tolerance for tomfoolery.
#3641 [23:27] <Thrae> They are emotionless banning machines.
#3642 [23:27] <reflexb> http://pastebin.com/1ek6WazU
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#3644 [23:28] <FoolWhip1> testing
#3645 [23:28] <|Kiikun|> yeah.. especially wugbot... the brat
#3646 [23:28] <reflexb> Problem seemed to happen more frequently with the game window maximized.
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#3649 [23:28] <|Kiikun|> :P
#3650 [23:28] <Thrae> reflexb: Your video card drivers are old. One sec.
#3651 [23:29] * GreyBot kicked WugBot from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Yes you are!)
#3652 [23:29] <TBS|Away> Bot fight!
#3653 [23:29] * |Kiikun| asumes aubot checks with nickserv when 'Notch' joins
#3653 [23:29] <|Kiikun|> rofl
#3654 [23:29] <|Kiikun|> nuu! wugbot!
#3655 [23:29] <FoolWhip1> hmm, Am I banned from this chat?
#3656 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> No.
#3657 [23:30] <FoolWhip1> ok, i just cant claimed the nick Foolwhip1...
#3658 [23:30] <|Kiikun|> hi GreyVulpine :P
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#3660 [23:30] <|Kiikun|> because you were on the server already :P
#3661 [23:30] <Thrae> reflexb: Download and install -- http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-280.26-whql-driver.html
#3662 [23:30] <FoolWhip> Ah there. no.. it was because i was in #minecraft...
#3663 [23:31] <reflexb> Have to do it later Thrae. Thank you very much!
#3664 [23:31] <FoolWhip> so I never got a clear answer on the map issue... other then its in 'some directory'. Sever map would be located in the world directory on the server?
#3665 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3666 [23:32] <|Kiikun|> FoolWhip: i dont know how your server host works.
#3667 [23:32] * |Kiikun| ish bored...
#3667 [23:32] * |Kiikun| wants to play smp...
#3667 [23:34] <FoolWhip> ok, so if I say screw trying to find my map... If I upload the new server.jar and restart the server, it will update itself automatically?
#3668 [23:36] <|Kiikun|> it will run the new server. all existing world will remain unchanged, except weather and biomes, and new world will generate outside the edges of the currently generated world
#3669 [23:37] * |Kiikun| misses snow ;_;
#3669 [23:37] <FoolWhip> gotcha
#3670 [23:38] <FoolWhip> i will give that a whirl... snow is a good thing to miss
#3671 [23:38] <|Kiikun|> no it isnt :P i want building materials!
#3672 [23:41] <reflexb> Snow = building materials? (noob)
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#3674 [23:41] <Helpplease> Ok i need help
#3675 [23:41] <|Kiikun|> shovel on fallen snow = snow balls.
#3676 [23:41] <Helpplease> SO
#3677 [23:41] <|Kiikun|> reflexb: 4 snow balls = snow block
#3678 [23:42] <Helpplease> I tried to download the new 1.8 patch
#3679 [23:42] <reflexb> oic
#3680 [23:42] <Helpplease> but my internet was bad at the time and i had to go so i put my computer in hibernate so there is an error with the instalation
#3681 [23:42] <Helpplease> now
#3682 [23:42] <|Kiikun|> Helpplease: windows?
#3683 [23:42] <Helpplease> the downloaded game and the in browser doesnt work
#3684 [23:42] <Helpplease> yes
#3685 [23:42] <|Kiikun|> ??> Helpplease forceupdate
#3686 [23:42] <Helpplease> windows
#3687 [23:43] <VoxelHead> Helpplease: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3688 [23:43] <VoxelHead> Helpplease: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#3689 [23:43] <Helpplease> crap i just uninstalled it
#3690 [23:43] <|Kiikun|> Helpplease: that will force a redownload of the files. if that doesnt work, then its...
#3691 [23:43] <|Kiikun|> !client
#3692 [23:44] <|Kiikun|> Helpplease: otherwise i was going to have you delete the bin and resources folders anyway :P
#3693 [23:45] <FoolWhip> thanks Kiikun. I do want to go in and MCEdit the map for those extra chunks that have been explored
#3694 [23:45] <FoolWhip> but now the server is working and there will be far less bitching...
#3695 [23:45] <Helpplease> Holy crap you guys are so awesome :D
#3696 [23:45] <Helpplease> IT WORKED
#3697 [23:45] <Helpplease> Thanks so much
#3698 [23:45] * |Kiikun| thumbs up
#3698 [23:45] <Helpplease> I thought that this would be some random chat where people just complain, so helpful :)
#3699 [23:46] <Helpplease> Honestly thanks so much :D
#3700 [23:46] <|Kiikun|> sometimes its that :P
#3701 [23:46] <|Kiikun|> all depends on if people are here helping :3
#3702 [23:46] <Helpplease> yea thanks again, i wasnt able to play for like 4 days D:
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