#MinecraftHelp > 2011-09-20
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#3 [00:00] <Ukto> crash help please? :) http://pastebin.com/fVvP0YAq
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#7 [00:01] <|Kiikun|> Ukto: try updating or reinstalling video drivers
#8 [00:01] <Ukto> hm, thought i had the latest of both, will dbl check
#9 [00:01] <Travito> That's what I was about to say. Crashed on an nv(variousletters).dll file.
#10 [00:02] <|Kiikun|> Ukto: its erroring with the nvidia opengl driver
#11 [00:02] <Tigron> I'm having a problem with HUGE sections of blocks disappearing on my game. I can see the Void and caves when I'm standing on the surface
#12 [00:02] <Travito> Ukto: Do you have Advanced OpenGL on? I have a lot of trouble out of it with my nVidia card.
#13 [00:02] <Travito> try turning it off. I find I crash a LOT less with it off.
#14 [00:02] <Ukto> Travito: tbh, not sure. havent touched this laptop in years :P
#15 [00:02] <|Kiikun|> Tigron: you can see 'x-ray' like? or do you see walls?
#16 [00:02] <Tigron> Xray
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#18 [00:03] <|Kiikun|> Tigron: thats a memory error i think. or a video error.. i had it in 1.6 but it was fixed and i only see it randomly now...
#19 [00:03] <Tigron> I see it every time I play on Multiplayer.
#20 [00:03] <Tigron> Lemmie get a screenshot up to show ya
#21 [00:03] <|Kiikun|> Tigron: i honestly dont know the fix besides closing and reopenign minecraft.
#22 [00:04] <Tigron> That doesn't fix it
#23 [00:04] <Tigron> Lemmie just show ya to make sure we're talking abou the same thing.
#24 [00:05] <|Kiikun|> Tigron: you said you didnt see walls, but x-ray like. walls = chunk error. you didnt recieve the chunk when the server sent it.
#25 [00:05] <|Kiikun|> Tigron: x-ray means you can see in all directions underground through the 'bugged' blocks
#26 [00:06] <Tigron> Hold on man.
#27 [00:06] <Tigron> http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/Namrepus221/2011-09-15_031258.png
#28 [00:07] <Tigron> There.
#29 [00:07] <Tigron> That's what I see
#30 [00:09] <|Kiikun|> Tigron: yes.. thats a rendering error.
#31 [00:09] <Tigron> hm
#32 [00:10] <Tigron> OK. There's no real way to fix it I take it? I've tried restarting Minecraft, but the same errors appear int he same places. I usually have to get a crash to get it to "fix" itselt
#33 [00:10] <Tigron> itself
#34 [00:11] <|Kiikun|> Tigron: do you justy log out or do you close minecraft completely?
#35 [00:17] <Thrae> Ukto: Did you try updating your graphics card drivers?
#36 [00:17] <Thrae> Tigron: Did you too also try updating your video card drivers?
#37 [00:17] <Tigron> Recently yes.
#38 [00:17] <Tigron> and yes I've closed it and re-opened it
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#43 [00:48] <Blaiseken> Hello my server wont let me break or place any blocks around the spawn point how do i fix that?
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#45 [00:50] <asherlite> hey we need some help broski!
#46 [00:51] <asherlite> our server is all jacked up.
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#48 [00:51] <|Kiikun|> BlackGyver: that measn your not op
#49 [00:51] <|Kiikun|> hi ash :P
#50 [00:51] <|Kiikun|> oldtopman borked the server
#51 [00:51] <asherlite> KIIKUN!
#52 [00:51] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:647f:55f1:f9e4:d23e PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :ACTION slaps |Kiikun|
#53 [00:51] * |Kiikun| wants to keep building ;_;
#53 [00:51] <asherlite> what?
#54 [00:51] <BlackGyver> e35:8b51:1320:647f:55f1:f9e4:d23e PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Watch your flippin tab, young man
#55 [00:51] <|Kiikun|> erp.. sorry BlackGyver :P
#56 [00:52] * Carharttjimmy is working on minecraft with Gentoo Linux
#56 [00:52] <Carharttjimmy> So, anyone running Gentoo?
#57 [00:52] <Carharttjimmy> I have a question
#58 [00:52] <|Kiikun|> Blaiseken: you need to be op to alter spawn
#59 [00:52] * |Kiikun| 's web/file/whatever server suns gentoo <.<
#59 [00:52] <Carharttjimmy> on Minecraft
#60 [00:52] <asherlite> [kiikun] what happened to oldtopman
#61 [00:53] <|Kiikun|> he's on vacation
#62 [00:53] <Carharttjimmy> its not a web server
#63 [00:53] <Carharttjimmy> its a laptop
#64 [00:53] <Carharttjimmy> ....
#65 [00:53] <asherlite> so it's not dead or anything, it just won't be up for a bit?
#66 [00:54] <asherlite> i guess that's cool.
#67 [00:54] <|Kiikun|> Carharttjimmy: gentoo is gentoo :3 my gentoo just doesnt have a gui. just commandline
#68 [00:54] <Carharttjimmy> I run KDE
#69 [00:54] <Carharttjimmy> on it
#70 [00:54] <Carharttjimmy> :D
#71 [00:55] <Blaiseken> im an op but it still wont let me alter the spawn
#72 [00:55] <Carharttjimmy> I also run Arch Linux and FreeBSD
#73 [00:55] <Carharttjimmy> And, I got Minecraft working on FreeBSD
#74 [00:55] <|Kiikun|> Blaiseken: this is a vanilla server?
#75 [00:56] <asherlite> like vanilla grifball?
#76 [00:56] <adamkex> gentoo <3
#77 [00:56] <Blaiseken> whats a vanilla server?
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#79 [00:56] <Jakedyyd> Hello
#80 [00:56] <|Kiikun|> Blaiseken: meaning your running the server as is from minecraft.net and not bukkit or something else
#81 [00:56] <Carharttjimmy> wait, I got it
#82 [00:56] <adamkex> Carharttjimmy: i run gentoo
#83 [00:57] <Carharttjimmy> I run Arch mainly
#84 [00:57] <Blaiseken> yes i have a vanilla server
#85 [00:57] <Carharttjimmy> @adamkex
#86 [00:57] <Carharttjimmy> But, I was working on a friend's gentoo
#87 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> Blaiseken: is it day or night right now on your server?
#88 [00:58] <adamkex> Carharttjimmy: yeah, then what?
#89 [00:58] <Blaiseken> night
#90 [00:58] <|Kiikun|> Blaiseken: type /time set 0 and tell me if it becomes daytime
#91 [00:58] <Carharttjimmy> So, I got the Jar file, now, do I just run the jar file in gentoo
#92 [00:58] <Carharttjimmy> or is there something else?
#93 [00:58] <Jakedyyd> I got bit big problem: When i start minecraft,it goes bad resolutions,rainbow colors all over it (screen) and shows Error types ect. this is what it shows Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_27, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpotâ„¢ Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system prope
#94 [00:58] <Jakedyyd> rties
#95 [00:59] <Blaiseken> nope still night
#96 [00:59] <Carharttjimmy> Have you tried re-installing it Jake?
#97 [00:59] <Jakedyyd> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Insufficient color precision at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.nChoosePixelFormat(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.choosePixelFormat(WindowsPeerInfo.java:52) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsDisplay.createWindow(WindowsDisplay.java:185) at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.createWindow(Display.java:311) at org.lwjgl.opengl.Displ
#98 [00:59] <adamkex> Carharttjimmy: server or client?
#99 [00:59] <|Kiikun|> Blaiseken: you are no an op then,
#100 [00:59] <Jakedyyd> ANY HELP PLEASE
#101 [00:59] <|Kiikun|> ??> Jakedyyd pastebin
#102 [00:59] <VoxelHead> Jakedyyd: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#103 [00:59] <Carharttjimmy> cLIENT adamkex
#104 [00:59] <Blaiseken> shiit
#105 [00:59] <|Kiikun|> Blaiseken: you have access to the server console?
#106 [00:59] <adamkex> i just use "java -jar /home/adam/.minecraft/Minecraft.jar
#107 [00:59] <adamkex> "
#108 [00:59] <|Kiikun|> Blaiseken: and please dont swear
#109 [00:59] <Blaiseken> yeah
#110 [00:59] <Blaiseken> sorry sorry
#111 [01:00] <Carharttjimmy> Alright adamkex thats what I do when I run it in Arch, and Bam
#112 [01:00] <adamkex> Carharttjimmy: obviously you have to change the path to wherever your Minecraft.jar is
#113 [01:00] <Carharttjimmy> it works!!
#114 [01:00] <|Kiikun|> Blaiseken: type op Blaiseken or whatever yor mc username is
#115 [01:00] <Carharttjimmy> Thank you adamkex
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#117 [01:01] <adamkex> Carharttjimmy: you're welcome, what window manager or desktop enviroment do you use?
#118 [01:01] <Carharttjimmy> KDE in Gentoo
#119 [01:02] <Carharttjimmy> I use Gnome 3 in Arch, but I am thinking of xmonad
#120 [01:02] <asherlite> at the very bottom of the server console Blaiseken.
#121 [01:02] <|Kiikun|> asherlite: you got my pm? o.o
#122 [01:03] <Carharttjimmy> Has anyone tried running minecraft in Fedora Core?
#123 [01:03] <adamkex> Carharttjimmy: alright, i assume you use .desktop files, look at this pastebin http://pastebin.ca/2081493
#124 [01:03] <Carharttjimmy> alright
#125 [01:03] <adamkex> Carharttjimmy: you can get the minecraft icon from www.minecraft.net/favicon.ico
#126 [01:04] <Carharttjimmy> Thank you, I already got it tho
#127 [01:04] <adamkex> alright
#128 [01:04] <adamkex> Carharttjimmy: do you want my XMonad config?
#129 [01:05] <Carharttjimmy> adamkex: I am working on a custom config
#130 [01:05] <Carharttjimmy> :/
#131 [01:05] <Blaiseken> Okay! sweet it works Kiikun! Asher wasnt really helpful..
#132 [01:05] <Carharttjimmy> Just solved a minecraft forum support question
#133 [01:05] <Carharttjimmy> +1 to me
#134 [01:05] <adamkex> +1
#135 [01:05] <asherlite> blaise i was so helpful!
#136 [01:06] <asherlite> you'd be nowhere without me.
#137 [01:06] <|Kiikun|> lol
#138 [01:06] <Carharttjimmy> adamkex: Have you tried running hamachi in Gentoo?
#139 [01:08] <adamkex> Carharttjimmy: i sent you a query
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#143 [01:12] <aetherian> herp
#144 [01:12] <|Kiikun|> :P
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#147 [01:15] <Enderman> *stares at everyone*
#148 [01:15] <|Kiikun|> ok.. enough of me being a goon :P
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#150 [01:17] <rev-lemon> !chech
#151 [01:17] <rev-lemon> !check
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#153 [01:18] <aetherian> vroom vroom
#154 [01:19] <lemon-rev> ok if server was running eariler and i havent touched anything appart from lol younoob and still watching crap that doesnt affect mc why would server not want to run gay lol
#155 [01:23] <lemon-rev> hm seems my ip has been moved while i have been online, wtf lol oh well shit happens change the ip and away i go
#156 [01:23] <Kealper> lol...someone tried joining as notch...
#157 [01:24] <lemon-rev> lol
#158 [01:24] <Kealper> also yeah i've just recently had my IP change on me while i was doing shit
#159 [01:25] <Kealper> i was just sitting there then i lost internet for like literally half a second..it stopped, and came right back on and all my stuff like my chat that i host wouldn't reconnect for some reason so i was looking around to see if my router messed up or something...
#160 [01:25] <lemon-rev> wired
#161 [01:25] <Kealper> went to check my IP and it was completely different....like it changed from 24.11.82.168 to 68.61.69.137 lol
#162 [01:26] <Kealper> other extremely weird thing.....i kid you not, my internet speed got way faster after it happened
#163 [01:26] <lemon-rev> hm, nasty, but yea not funny, i know ip does a server check once a blue moon that can disconnect and it usually comes back again but hm, oh well
#164 [01:26] <lemon-rev> oh, now thats sweet
#165 [01:27] <Thrae> Sometimes there are "bad subnets" in an ISP's network where people can still be on the bad subnets and all they need to do is release/renew
#166 [01:28] <Kealper> i used to be able to download at a max of 1.2MB/s and sustained of around 900KB/s, and directly after my IP changed i can get peak speeds of 3.5MB/s and sustained of around 2MB/s
#167 [01:28] <lemon-rev> well thrae do you know how offtern they do this renew thing
#168 [01:29] <Thrae> My IP's technically dynamic, but it almost never changes as I'm on a business line
#169 [01:30] <Kealper> some ISPs i've heard of do a release/renew every night, a friend of mine has to deal with that and have his IP change every night at like midnight lol
#170 [01:30] <Thrae> I strongly doubt lemon-rev's IP changed *while* he was online...there was probably a split-second he wasn't online
#171 [01:30] <lemon-rev> doh
#172 [01:30] <lemon-rev> makes life a little harder
#173 [01:31] <lemon-rev> thrae most likely but like i new it not , or didnt see it happen
#174 [01:32] <Kealper> yeah, i can see if you didn't actually lose internet (like in my case the internet was "technically" fine) but any currently open connections (like chat clients and such) would have been disconnected because the connection would have only been valid for your old IP
#175 [01:33] <Kealper> and if i'm not making any sense, just let me know, i literally just woke up lol
#176 [01:33] <Thrae> Yeah, they do that in high-load areas on shared lines (like Cable)
#177 [01:33] <lemon-rev> kealper no your making since but i dont think mirc disconnection so i dont know whats up
#178 [01:34] <Kealper> i've got cable and my IP is basically static (it's not promised as such, but it almost never changes)
#179 [01:34] <Kealper> lemon-rev: if you didn't disconnect from anything and your IP changed, that's rather impressive as it defies all that is good and holy when it comes to IP lol
#180 [01:35] <lemon-rev> lol
#181 [01:35] <Thrae> It is feasible that there were two external IPs routing to the same computer, but I can't think of a reason why they would do that rather than just release
#182 [01:35] <lemon-rev> yea well, i still dont know how the hell it managed to happen since i knew i had'nt changed or disconnected from anything
#183 [01:36] <Kealper> odd lol
#184 [01:36] <lemon-rev> btw im on wifi, maybe could be known reasion as well
#185 [01:37] <Kealper> shouldn't matter on either, both use IP (in the sense of what IP stands for and not as an abbriviation for IP address)
#186 [01:37] <Kealper> so i changed something with aubot
#187 [01:37] <Kealper> <random>
#188 [01:38] <Kealper> it now doesn't bork up peoples' messages if they are using IPv6, and it is able to use a person's services username instead of nickname for checking if they are allowed to do something
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#190 [01:38] <Kealper> </random>
#191 [01:39] * lemon-rev not sure dude
#191 [01:40] <Kealper> although i do need to find someone who has an IPv6 address in irc so i can test it
#192 [01:40] <Kealper> i changed the parsing around so it *SHOULD* work...but i can't actually test it...lol
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#195 [01:44] <lemon-rev> hm, yea funny :P
#196 [01:45] <Kealper> although i guess i could find out
#197 [01:46] * Kealper does some WHO wizardry
#197 [01:48] <Kealper> hmm...there are some people in here with v6 addresses....unfortunately i think they're all afk right now ._.
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#200 [01:54] <Genesisks> !check 66/75/71.97
#201 [01:55] <Genesisks> !check 66.75.71.97
#202 [01:55] <Kealper> !tinyurl http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/
#203 [01:55] <Kealper> thank you aubot
#204 [01:56] <HK_Titan[AFK]> lol, i'm curious now
#205 [01:56] <HK_Titan[AFK]> !check 74.74.209.125
#206 [01:56] <HK_Titan[AFK]> if i knew what that tested, then woot, is that jsut a ping?
#207 [01:57] <Kealper> atm yeah
#208 [01:57] <Kealper> well, sort of
#209 [01:58] <Kealper> it's not an ICMP echo, it just opens a TCP connection to the given ip on the given port (25565 if none specified) and if it was, then it says it worked
#210 [01:58] <Kealper> !motd
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#212 [01:59] <HK_Titan[AFK]> ah ok, so it's essentially a "is my server reachable" test?
#213 [01:59] <Kealper> yeah
#214 [01:59] <Alphroman> Hey, is Thrae still around?
#215 [01:59] <HK_Titan[AFK]> now if only i could remember ll the useful things aubot and voxelhead can say/do when it's actually needed to help someone in this channel, lol
#216 [02:00] <Kealper> Thrae: do !motd, tell me if that gets the point across
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#218 [02:00] <Kealper> HK_Titan[AFK]: aubot can automatically help on some things lol
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#220 [02:01] <Kealper> like let's say i installed an HD texture pack...
#221 [02:01] <HK_Titan[AFK]> lol cool. I have the voxelhead list somewhere but last time I wanted to check what it said it wasn't in the voxelhead channel and I forgot the "pm response to you" syntax and didn't wanna spam the channel with misinformation.
#222 [02:02] <Kealper> HELP GUYS! I WAS NOT BEING SMART AND I DIDN'T READ ALL THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE YOUTUBE VIDEO FOR THIS COOL TEXTURE PACK AND NOW I GET THIS: http://pastebin.com/JRPA0pPk
#223 [02:02] <HK_Titan[AFK]> isn't it ??< index thingy here?
#224 [02:02] <VoxelHead> Kealper: (win/texture/bat) Outdated texture packs can cause minecraft to crash or fail to load. To remove all texture packs, download and run the following script.
#225 [02:02] <VoxelHead> Kealper: (win/texture/bat) Minecraft Texture Pack Removal Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/DelTexturePacks.bat
#226 [02:02] <HK_Titan[AFK]> lol nice
#227 [02:03] <Kealper> uhh...normally there should be an index command, yeah
#228 [02:03] <Kealper> ?? index
#229 [02:03] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
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#231 [02:03] <Thrae> !motd
#232 [02:03] <Thrae> Kealper: I'd say so
#233 [02:03] <HK_Titan[AFK]> !motd
#234 [02:06] <Thrae> Kealper: I saw someone in here earlier with a problem like Buffer Overflow and I blamed MCPatcher.
#235 [02:07] <Thrae> Could also be insufficient memory given to Java.
#236 [02:07] <ZeHaxor> !motd
#237 [02:07] <ZeHaxor> oh
#238 [02:07] <carharttjimmy> could also be insufficient system resource using Thrae
#239 [02:07] <Thrae> carharttjimmy: That's what I mean.
#240 [02:07] <ZeHaxor> ?? zehaxor index
#241 [02:08] <Kealper> Thrae: 99% of the time if you see a java.nio.BufferOverflowExcetion it's because they are trying to load a texture pack that is too large for the vanilla client's buffer for textures
#242 [02:08] <ZeHaxor> ?? index
#243 [02:08] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#244 [02:08] <Alphroman> Hey Thrae, I think I found out what my problem was. Minecraft wont work if I'm using two monitors
#245 [02:08] <Kealper> yes it can happen from other things, but it's almost always that they just didn't read all the instructions before throwing everything together
#246 [02:08] <Thrae> Alphroman: Really? That's strange -- I use 4 monitors.
#247 [02:08] <carharttjimmy> Alphroman: that doesnt make sense but I am off to bed
#248 [02:08] <Kealper> Alphroman: are you on a mac?
#249 [02:08] <Alphroman> I know it doesnt
#250 [02:08] <Alphroman> no
#251 [02:09] <carharttjimmy> Linux @Alphroman ?
#252 [02:09] <Kealper> Alphroman: odd, that is usually only an issue with mac users
#253 [02:09] <Alphroman> If I use two moniters, Java crashes
#254 [02:09] <Alphroman> nope, Windows XP
#255 [02:09] <Thrae> In fact I'm always surprised by how I can move the Minecraft window seemlessly between 3 different GPUs
#256 [02:09] <carharttjimmy> Alphroman: Have you updated Java to Java 6 or Java 7 beta?
#257 [02:09] <Kealper> Alphroman: are you using your second monitor as the one that Minecraft is starting on?
#258 [02:09] <Alphroman> no, it's start on the first one
#259 [02:09] <Kealper> Alphroman: that's rather odd then
#260 [02:09] <Alphroman> i get the javaw.exe crash if I SLI them
#261 [02:10] <Alphroman> but if i turn off SLI, it loads fine
#262 [02:10] <Thrae> Alphroman: Ohhhh. So it's SLI, not multi-monitors.
#263 [02:10] <Kealper> oh, that sort of isn't odd, i've heard of other games crashing when running in SLI/Crossfire as well
#264 [02:10] <Alphroman> oh, sorry
#265 [02:10] <Alphroman> I'm half asleep here, yeah
#266 [02:10] <Thrae> Alphroman: You can go into Nvidia Control Panel and set an exception for javaw.exe and java.exe for Multi-Monitor support....lemme see....
#267 [02:11] <carharttjimmy> Yeah, that happens with SLI Alphroman, my advice turn SLI off and live with it
#268 [02:11] <Alphroman> yeah, I'm alright with it
#269 [02:11] <Alphroman> I just thought I'd let you guys know incase other people were having the same problem
#270 [02:11] <Alphroman> so you could suggest it
#271 [02:11] <Thrae> Alphroman: It's actually a common problem that OpenGL doesn't deal with SLI + multiple displays very well
#272 [02:11] <Kealper> carharttjimmy: your advice is not very...conductive to a pleasurable environment
#273 [02:12] <carharttjimmy> Kealper: sorry, about that, I will try to be more nice
#274 [02:13] <Thrae> Alphroman: You can go into "Manage 3D Settings" in the Nvidia Control Panel, then add in java.exe and javaw.exe and change "Multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration" to "Single" or "Compatibility"
#275 [02:13] <|Kiikun|> !check
#276 [02:13] <|Kiikun|> :3
#277 [02:14] <Alphroman> ahhh alright
#278 [02:14] <Kealper> |Kiikun|: orly...i should join it and take up a space in there >:3
#279 [02:15] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: beware of lag :P i only have a half-meg upload speed
#280 [02:15] <Alphroman> Yep! Set it to Single and it loads up now
#281 [02:15] <|Kiikun|> plus i just finished building a spawnpoint :D
#282 [02:16] <carharttjimmy> sweet Alphroman
#283 [02:16] <Thrae> Alphroman: Yeah, remember that for other OpenGL games
#284 [02:16] <Kealper> |Kiikun|: should be good for 1-2 others in there unless your internet just has abnormally high ping lol
#285 [02:16] <Alphroman> you guys are the greatest
#286 [02:16] <carharttjimmy> Steam Games are also a culprit of it Alphroman, so make sure you watch out for that :D
#287 [02:16] <Alphroman> I'll have to see if that fixed Starcraft2 and TF2
#288 [02:16] <Alphroman> yeah, Team Fortress crashes a lot
#289 [02:16] <Alphroman> I thought it was overheating, but it's probably the same
#290 [02:16] <carharttjimmy> Yeah, I was about to say TF2 suffers from that
#291 [02:17] <carharttjimmy> but it can be fixed
#292 [02:17] <Alphroman> it really sucked playing for about 7 minutes, and then having to restart my computer and start over. very frustrating
#293 [02:18] <carharttjimmy> Just remember if its overheating, watch the integrity of your cache
#294 [02:19] * Kealper is going to attempt to play Minecraft on a laptop that has a GMA950 in it....on battery
#294 [02:19] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: you can spy my spawn out :P
#295 [02:19] <Alphroman> I started monitoring my heat more, but I haven't had time to play in so long. I'm sure it was the same problem as this
#296 [02:19] <|Kiikun|> lol
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#298 [02:19] <carharttjimmy> Most likely, make sure you have Direct X updated as well
#299 [02:20] <carharttjimmy> anyways, goodbye all
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#301 [02:21] <Kealper> 56% battery remaining atm....let's see how many minutes that'll get me with a 3d game open
#302 [02:21] <|Kiikun|> lol
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#307 [02:27] <Alphroman> well, thanks again guys!
#308 [02:29] <Kealper> 42% battery, and my CPU is running at 71C \o/
#309 [02:29] <Kealper> average fps: ~20
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#313 [02:36] <carharttjimmy> Hey Ops and Admins for this channel, i found a helpful article for those having problems with Minecraft on Linux, mainly Ubuntu: http://timashley.me/node/596
#314 [02:38] <Kealper> hmm... Java Money Engine? can't say i've heard of that lol
#315 [02:39] <carharttjimmy> Umm, I have lol
#316 [02:39] <carharttjimmy> but in passing
#317 [02:40] <carharttjimmy> Its supposed to fix a problem that keeps recurring with minecraft in Ubuntu mainly
#318 [02:41] <carharttjimmy> but it works on all flavors
#319 [02:41] * Kealper is glad he doesn't use Ubuntu
#319 [02:41] <Thrae> carharttjimmy: A lot of the problems with Linux can be fixed by updating LWJGL -- http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#320 [02:41] <Thrae> This tutorial references Minecraft Alpha 1.1.2, and it's changed a lot since then
#321 [02:42] <carharttjimmy> @Thrae , the link addresses it but has another work around for it
#322 [02:44] <carharttjimmy> anyways, I need to go to sleep, adios
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#324 [02:45] <squiggy> hello I have a question regarding lighting inside buildings minecraft?
#325 [02:45] <squiggy> for 1.8
#326 [02:46] <Kealper> go on...
#327 [02:46] <squiggy> ok in small places lighting is great as it was in other versions
#328 [02:46] <squiggy> but for epic large spaces it gets very dark
#329 [02:47] <squiggy> even thought the place is lite with both torches and glow stone
#330 [02:47] <|Kiikun|> squiggy: this place very low in the map?
#331 [02:47] <|Kiikun|> like near bedrock
#332 [02:47] <squiggy> yep
#333 [02:48] <squiggy> only way to make them fit
#334 [02:48] <|Kiikun|> yeah. 1.8 shrinks your view distance and pulls in fog when you get really deep
#335 [02:48] <|Kiikun|> torches and stuff still prevent mob spawning
#336 [02:48] <squiggy> now he space is very cleared so no near by cliffs
#337 [02:48] * Kealper likes the new dynamic fog and FOV
#337 [02:49] <|Kiikun|> squiggy: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Render_distance#Render_distance
#338 [02:49] <squiggy> is there a way to fix this so the place is lit like in previous versions?
#339 [02:49] <|Kiikun|> squiggy: not without a mod.
#340 [02:50] <squiggy> oh I have tried to avoid those
#341 [02:50] <|Kiikun|> squiggy: read the last paragraph.
#342 [02:50] <squiggy> will the link above give me a way to fix or what?
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#344 [02:51] <|Kiikun|> squiggy: no. it explains whats happening.
#345 [02:53] <squiggy> oh ok while I am aware your not allowed to talk to me much about mods can you tell me if someone may have come up with a mad that will help?
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#347 [02:55] <squiggy> sorry miss spelled or typed "with a mad" should say "with a mod"
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#349 [02:55] <Kealper> well technically
#350 [02:56] <Kealper> we don't disallow mods, as they are a big part of the community, we just (usually) won't give you tech support for the mods
#351 [02:56] <squiggy> I know you can't talk about a mod but you can say if you know of someone making one?
#352 [02:57] <squiggy> I understand that
#353 [02:57] <Kealper> mostly since it's just too hard to know what mods cause what issues and such, it just becomes a pain lol
#354 [02:57] <Kealper> as for that
#355 [02:57] <Kealper> it's probably a question that #risucraft would know better than i would
#356 [02:57] <Kealper> hmm...brb, laptop charger feels like it's about to burst into flames
#357 [02:57] * |Kiikun| would LOVE a mod for chaning options in anaglyph mode :/
#357 [02:58] <squiggy> well to be honest I have been having stability problems with the new game any way what else could be worse? lol
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#359 [02:58] <|Kiikun|> my left eye ghosts horribly :/
#360 [02:58] <Kealper> |Kiikun|: yeah, i would love something that would let me pick the color of each eye for that mode, as it seems a bit off
#361 [02:59] <Kealper> i even have these awesome non-disposable anaglyph glasses that are the wraparound style and such, for watching movies in that mode
#362 [02:59] <Kealper> and they ghost so bad :<
#363 [03:00] <squiggy> ok thank you for you assistance
#364 [03:00] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: i got some cheepo ones from china :P have to try and wear my glasses with them because the image didnt match the product :/
#365 [03:00] <Kealper> you got yours from China as well? :P
#366 [03:00] * Kealper loves DealExtreme
#366 [03:01] * |Kiikun| got them from amazon
#366 [03:01] <|Kiikun|> didnt realize the shipepr was from china until it says 18-27 days shipping :P
#367 [03:02] <Kealper> oh man, if you want to see a place where you can quench all of your "stupid, cheap chinese things" urges.... http://dealextreme.com lol
#368 [03:02] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Heh, dealextreme :P
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#370 [03:02] <Kealper> free shipping on everything, cheap chinese ripoffs galore
#371 [03:02] <Kealper> LUKE!
#372 [03:03] <Kealper> are you still using a v6 address?
#373 [03:03] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :Yus.
#374 [03:03] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!check
#375 [03:03] <Kealper> type derp, see if aubot responds
#376 [03:03] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :derp
#377 [03:03] <Kealper> \o/
#378 [03:03] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :!check google.com
#379 [03:03] * Kealper can push that update to mod_mchelp now
#379 [03:03] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp ::D
#380 [03:04] <|Kiikun|> ooh! any chance you can have it take a nickname? autoresolve to ip?
#381 [03:05] <lukegb> 4f8:101:2403::2:1 PRIVMSG #minecrafthelp :It does you in the absence of a hostname.
#382 [03:05] <Kealper> |Kiikun|: with the new way i'm testing for checking if people are allowed to use commands, that could be possible
#383 [03:06] <Kealper> but i find typing /wii username works just as well lol
#384 [03:06] <|Kiikun|> . /wii?
#385 [03:08] <|Kiikun|> O.o;;;;
#386 [03:08] * |Kiikun| keeps finding friggin ravines!!!!
#386 [03:08] <Kealper> module reloading spam incoming!
#387 [03:08] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#388 [03:08] <Kealper> !reload mod_bot
#389 [03:08] <|Kiikun|> and this one has an abandoned mineshaft in it!
#390 [03:08] <Kealper> !reload mod_log
#391 [03:08] <lukegb> Slowly...
#392 [03:08] <lukegb> Kealper: needs more glob
#393 [03:09] <Kealper> wat lol
#394 [03:09] <lukegb> mod_*
#395 [03:09] <lukegb> :P
#396 [03:09] <Kealper> oh lol
#397 [03:09] <lukegb> mod_?o?
#398 [03:09] <lukegb> (matching bot and log)
#399 [03:10] <Kealper> hmm...regex in mod stuff....could be interesting but i'm lazy and adding that means restarting aubot lol
#400 [03:10] <lukegb> Heh
#401 [03:10] <Kealper> anyways
#402 [03:10] <Kealper> you and aubot should work now
#403 [03:10] <lukegb> !check
#404 [03:10] <lukegb> :D
#405 [03:11] <Kealper> well...it can't connect to v6 addresses, but atleast you are not ignored lol
#406 [03:11] <|Kiikun|> o.o;;; wall+ light = more tunnel!? wtf?!
#407 [03:12] <Kealper> o.o
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#410 [03:27] <|Kiikun|> hmm... i think i MAY have found a bug...
#411 [03:28] <Kealper> O.o
#412 [03:28] <|Kiikun|> the 'disapearing wall' and the 'floating cacti/reeds'
#413 [03:28] * |Kiikun| thinks theyre related
#413 [03:31] <Kealper> o.o
#414 [03:32] * Kealper has the unrelenting urge to make a website for some reason
#414 [03:32] <Kealper> out of Notepad++ of course
#415 [03:32] * Kealper gets to work
#415 [03:32] <|Kiikun|> lol. hph, css, dhtml.
#416 [03:32] <|Kiikun|> :P
#417 [03:33] <Kealper> php? psh, a3w
#418 [03:33] <Kealper> since i'm a hipster like that, i made my own preprocessor that lets me run AutoIt code for rich web apps on my webserver lol
#419 [03:34] <Kealper> much like how Perl would be used, as a CGI handler
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#421 [03:34] <Kealper> so i can have inline AutoIt code right in html pages \o/
#422 [03:34] <|Kiikun|> :P
#423 [03:35] * |Kiikun| SHOULD go to bed...
#423 [03:35] <Kealper> http://kealper.com/irclogs is done in html5/css3 with AutoIt as it's backend
#424 [03:36] <|Kiikun|> HAH! so there IS a chanlog!
#425 [03:36] <Kealper> i mean, logging? what?
#426 [03:36] <|Kiikun|> :P
#427 [03:37] <lukegb> Why autoit why ):
#428 [03:37] <Kealper> lukegb: you're just jealous of my awesomeness :P
#429 [03:38] <Kealper> as far as feature set goes, AutoIt isn't much different than Python
#430 [03:38] <Kealper> it just carries the massive "just an automation language" stigma from long ago when it really was just an automation language
#431 [03:39] <Kealper> also i absolutely hate xchat's nick tabbing
#432 [03:40] <Kealper> if there is more than one match for the nick you are trying to tab to...it'll just show a list of all the matches, and not cycle through the matches
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#434 [03:43] <|Kiikun|> XD
#435 [03:45] <TheBadShepperd> Kealper, only if there are more than five matches.
#436 [03:46] <TheBadShepperd> Just add another character before hitting tab.
#437 [03:46] <TheBadShepperd> At least, that is how xChat 2.0 works.
#438 [03:47] <Kealper> TheBadShepperd: i'm on the latest ychat which to my knowledge has not been overly modified and it'll even do it if there are two matches found :/
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#440 [03:47] <Kealper> on my other computer it has a much older version of xchat and it does it the usual 5 or more
#441 [03:47] <TheBadShepperd> That is what I'm using. Perhaps it is a setting somewhere.
#442 [03:47] <Kealper> maybe it's a setting somewhere that is hidden from view :/
#443 [03:47] <TheBadShepperd> You're in my mind.
#444 [03:47] <mib_e05q80> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002168540724
#445 [03:47] <Kealper> TheBadShepperd: D:
#446 [03:48] <|Kiikun|> mib_e05q80: dont advertise, and you fail at doing so :P
#447 [03:48] <Kealper> aubot, what is the title to that url
#448 [03:48] * Kealper kicked AuBot from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uBot :AuBot)
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#450 [03:48] <Kealper> i need to fix that title grabber
#451 [03:49] <|Kiikun|> http://kiichan.is-a-geek.net/
#452 [03:49] <|Kiikun|> aubot, what is the title to that url
#453 [03:49] <|Kiikun|> :D
#454 [03:49] * |Kiikun| dances
#454 [03:49] <TheBadShepperd> Geeeeek!
#455 [03:49] <Kealper> AUBOT: TITLE GET!
#456 [03:49] <|Kiikun|> yes, i am :P
#457 [03:49] <Kealper> it's pretty smart as far as interpreting what you want with that feature lol
#458 [03:49] <TheBadShepperd> You pale in comparision to my geekyness.
#459 [03:50] * Kealper is such a nerd kealper.com is hosted out of his house
#459 [03:50] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: it doesnt hellp that that was a facebook equiv of 404.
#460 [03:50] * |Kiikun| uses dyndns to get kiichan.is-a-geek.net :P
#460 [03:50] <Kealper> |Kiikun|: ahh, might have been a redirected page and the way i'm getting page data didn't grab it
#461 [03:51] <Kealper> i should make it follow http response codes like 302 or whatever it is and such, the location response code to redirect you elsewhere
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#463 [03:51] <Kealper> it would let it be able to tell the titles to short urls if it did D:
#464 [03:52] <Kealper> http://u.kealper.com/mc
#465 [03:52] <Kealper> aubot, grab the title for that url please
#466 [03:52] <|Kiikun|> AuBot! title!
#467 [03:52] <|Kiikun|> :P
#468 [03:52] <Kealper> aubot, i'll slap you
#469 [03:52] * Kealper slaps aubot
#469 [03:52] <Kealper> D:
#470 [03:52] <Kealper> shush, vox
#471 [03:53] <Kealper> hmm....
#472 [03:53] <|Kiikun|> :P
#473 [03:53] <Kealper> i guess i don't have aubot looking for "grab"
#474 [03:54] <Kealper> infact....brb doing a check to see what a location redirect even looks like with the method i'm using to have aubot get the page source for the title
#475 [03:54] <Kealper> wat.
#476 [03:54] <Kealper> minecraft.net can't be that slow right now o.o
#477 [03:55] <|Kiikun|> it isnt <.<
#478 [03:56] <Kealper> so i noticed
#479 [03:56] <Kealper> why did aubot randomly do that o.o
#480 [03:56] <|Kiikun|> redirect lag!
#481 [03:56] <|Kiikun|> or... IT LIVES!!!!1
#482 [03:56] <Kealper> but i mean....aubot should not have even done that lol
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#487 [04:14] <Kealper> sure would be nice to know who is currently DDoSing me
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#491 [22:52] <|Kiikun|> AUBOT!!!!
#492 [22:53] <|Kiikun|> !check
#493 [22:53] <|Kiikun|> :3
#494 [22:53] <Guest88292> ooo
#495 [22:53] <Guest88292> it has 2 download buttons which one should i do
#496 [22:53] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: hi :3
#497 [22:53] <mib_qn1zfa> thanks for help guys
#498 [22:53] <mib_qn1zfa> now how do i play?
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#500 [22:54] <Thrae> Guest88292: Suite
#501 [22:54] <|Kiikun|> mib_qn1zfa: you start by punching trees? :P theres lots of beginner videos out there
#502 [22:54] <mib_bvssab> Punching trees is so addicting.
#503 [22:54] <Guest88292> wow u guys are really smart
#504 [22:54] <Thrae> mib_qn1zfa: Lots of people like to watch "Let's Play Minecraft!" videos
#505 [22:55] <mib_bvssab> I could do it all day if it wasn't going to turn dark and I'd get swarmed by monsters.
#506 [22:55] <deadfire813> hey anyone know how to get to the bukkit channel?
#507 [22:55] * |Kiikun| likes using an iron axe... in a pine farm :P
#507 [22:55] <Thrae> deadfire813: /join #bukkit , make sure your nick is registered and you're not using Mibbit
#508 [22:55] <|Kiikun|> deadfire813: register your nick with espernet services and type /join #bukkit
#509 [22:55] <|Kiikun|> oh. they just flat banned mibbit?
#510 [22:56] <|Kiikun|> even with regged nicks?
#511 [22:56] <Thrae> I dunno, but a lot of Minecraft channels are, so it's worth just switching to EsperNet's webchat
#512 [22:56] <|Kiikun|> or getting something good... like mirc :P
#513 [22:57] <Guest88292> Thrae, could you give me some advice on how me and my friend could play on the same server?
#514 [22:57] <deadfire813> im still no mibbit
#515 [22:57] <deadfire813> on
#516 [22:57] <Thrae> deadfire813: OK
#517 [22:58] <deadfire813> Thrae was caps lock necessary for that?
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#519 [22:58] <Thrae> Guest88292: You need to either find a server you both want to play on hosted by someone else, or host your own server with proper port forwarding, or host your own server using VPN (not LogMeIn/Hamachi) instead of port forwarding
#520 [22:59] <Guest88292> ok tbh.. i never tried it before lol
#521 [22:59] <mib_bvssab> Why not Hamachi?
#522 [22:59] <deadfire813> logmein=hamachi
#523 [23:00] <|Kiikun|> ?? fubar/hamachi
#524 [23:00] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#525 [23:00] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#526 [23:00] <mib_bvssab> I see.
#527 [23:00] <deadfire813> i port forward properly!
#528 [23:00] <|Kiikun|> port forwarding is usually the best solution
#529 [23:01] <|Kiikun|> and if your public ip changes from time to time.. use something like no-ip.com
#530 [23:01] <mib_bvssab> Unfortunately for my, my IP is dynamic :(
#531 [23:01] <Thrae> deadfire813: It's proper grammatical syntax to capitalize OK as it's an abbreviation -- O.K.
#532 [23:01] <mib_bvssab> My public ip changes everytime I load a page.
#533 [23:01] <|Kiikun|> mib_bvssab: thats impossible
#534 [23:01] <|Kiikun|> ;ip mib_bvssab
#535 [23:01] <mib_bvssab> Really?
#536 [23:01] <WugBot> IP address of mib_bvssab is: 219.75.85.77
#537 [23:02] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: So if you go to http://www.whatismyip.com and refresh the page by holding down SHIFT and hitting the refresh button, your IP changes?
#538 [23:02] <|Kiikun|> if your IP changed even once, you wouldnt be abel to chat here
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#540 [23:02] <mib_bvssab> Really?
#541 [23:02] <mib_bvssab> I used whatismyip.com
#542 [23:02] <mib_bvssab> the ip there changes everytime I Ctrl+F5 the page
#543 [23:03] <Thrae> ;ip mib_bvssab
#544 [23:03] <WugBot> IP address of mib_bvssab is: 219.75.85.77
#545 [23:03] <faustX> who can field a minecraft.net question?
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#547 [23:03] <bletch> hello?
#548 [23:03] <|Kiikun|> faustX: sure, but we have no controll over it...
#549 [23:03] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Weird....sounds like you have some sort of proxy installed or anonymizer or something, since you're still connected with the same IP. Or maybe your ISP is screwed up and isn't sending back the right IP.
#550 [23:04] <faustX> who is the webmaster and is there any contact info?
#551 [23:04] <bletch> guys when i open my mine craft and i play map once it starts to load and then it crashes
#552 [23:04] <mib_bvssab> Hmm, I'll look into that further
#553 [23:04] <mib_bvssab> In case I succeed, what ports do I need to forward?
#554 [23:04] <|Kiikun|> 25565
#555 [23:04] <|Kiikun|> or whatever port you set the server on
#556 [23:05] <mib_bvssab> bleh, the last number changes everytime I reload
#557 [23:05] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: You can also use a dynamic domain service like no-ip.org
#558 [23:05] <mib_bvssab> I don't use a proxy or anonymizer though
#559 [23:05] <Guest88292> thrae, btw what is this download exactly doing?
#560 [23:05] <mib_bvssab> I used to use no-ip a few years back for another game
#561 [23:05] <Thrae> Contact your ISP for more information on that, I reckon
#562 [23:05] <Thrae> bletch: Try a new map?
#563 [23:06] <Thrae> Guest88292: Updating your video card drivers from 2004 to the latest available.
#564 [23:06] <bletch> hmph
#565 [23:06] <mib_bvssab> but if the ip changes everytime I reload, there's gotta be something wrong there right?
#566 [23:06] <bletch> well i did tyr that
#567 [23:06] <bletch> try*
#568 [23:06] <Guest88292> ooooo cool will that make my comp faster or something?
#569 [23:06] <bletch> the screen goes black
#570 [23:06] <bletch> and wont load
#571 [23:06] <bletch> then i t says t crashes
#572 [23:06] <bletch> it*
#573 [23:06] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Not necessarily on the ISP's end -- could be something on your computer, or whatismyip doesn't conform to something the ISP is using
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#575 [23:06] <mib_bvssab> I see.
#576 [23:07] <mib_bvssab> Well, anything on my DxDiag?
#577 [23:07] <Thrae> Guest88292: Probably make your games a little faster and work better. That's about it.
#578 [23:07] <Guest88292> thats awesome
#579 [23:07] <bletch> what should i do and what do u think about the problem
#580 [23:07] <Thrae> Thrae> mib_bvssab: OK, download and install -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19372/a08/winxp_14427.exe
#581 [23:08] <Thrae> Guest88292: You should also go to Windows Updates, http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com , and grab all the latest Critical, Recommended, and Optional updates besides Language Packs. They'll probably have driver updates on there too.
#582 [23:09] <bletch> and by the way im using a mac
#583 [23:09] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: I sent a link to you earlier, did you download and install?
#584 [23:09] <Thrae> bletch: What OS X version?
#585 [23:09] <bletch> yes
#586 [23:09] <faustX> Kiikun, any luck on that webmaster stuff?
#587 [23:09] <bletch> well a mac book pro
#588 [23:10] <bletch> my friend has the exact same computer and he plays minecraft
#589 [23:10] <bletch> so i dont know whats wrong with my mine craft
#590 [23:10] <|Kiikun|> faustX: i dunno who the webmaster is :P i know someone here works on the site, but i'd rather not ping him as i doubt he's even here
#591 [23:10] <Thrae> bletch: Some Macbook Pros with version 10.5.8 are having problems with version 1.8.x of Minecraft.
#592 [23:11] <deadfire813> hey i need some help i keep crashing on minecraft
#593 [23:11] * |Kiikun| isnt important enough!
#593 [23:11] <Guest88292> hmmmmm
#594 [23:11] <mib_bvssab> Thrae: It won't install on my comp
#595 [23:11] <bletch> mine isnt a 10.5.8
#596 [23:11] <mib_bvssab> "This driver is not validated for your computer"
#597 [23:11] <mib_bvssab> and something along the lines of, Download the correct Driver
#598 [23:11] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Blargh, OK, one sec while I go onto Levono's site
#599 [23:12] <mib_bvssab> I went onto Lenovo's site and downloaded the latest file pack and installed, restarted and it didn't work
#600 [23:12] <deadfire813> i have a crash problem here is my error file: http://pastebin.com/y63QxkH7
#601 [23:12] <mib_bvssab> umm, maybe I got the wrong one though
#602 [23:12] <bletch> dead i have the exact same version
#603 [23:12] <bletch> i mean problem
#604 [23:12] <faustX> ok kiikun, maybe i can explain my issue further...somebody tried to change my password, and I need to figure out who.
#605 [23:13] <Thrae> bletch: You're getting that exact same error message?
#606 [23:13] <bletch> well no
#607 [23:13] <|Kiikun|> faustX: you can change your own password if your concerned.
#608 [23:13] <Thrae> ??> deadfire813 win/dxdiag
#609 [23:13] <bletch> it says u should contact the minecraft people
#610 [23:13] <VoxelHead> deadfire813: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#611 [23:13] <faustX> im a staff member and forum moderator of a public server, and there are some suspected users...i need some IPs to confirm or deny.
#612 [23:13] <VoxelHead> deadfire813: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#613 [23:13] <bletch> and it says its crafted
#614 [23:14] <faustX> Im just worried about the health of my server.
#615 [23:14] <Guest88292> i am installing the stuff now
#616 [23:14] <deadfire813> http://pastebin.com/4Zh5LmjB
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#618 [23:14] <|Kiikun|> faustX: we have no access to that info here. i'd sugest filling out the form under 'account/ hacked' and asking
#619 [23:15] <faustX> ooh, could you point me there, please?
#620 [23:15] <|Kiikun|> www.minecraft.net/support
#621 [23:15] <faustX> thank you kindly, Kiikun
#622 [23:16] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Levono's drivers are so old they're still calling them "Cantiga". the development codename
#623 [23:17] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Lemme see if I can mod these drivers....
#624 [23:17] <deadfire813> thrae thats the dxdiag i i had sunday here is my new one: http://pastebin.com/yBUzJM7z
#625 [23:18] <mib_bvssab> Hahaha Thrae. Thanks so much.
#626 [23:18] <Thrae> deadfire813: Hmm, are you just running Minecraft.exe, not a batch file?
#627 [23:18] <deadfire813> thrae si si
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#629 [23:19] <deadfire813> thrae but i am running my server at the same tine lol
#630 [23:19] <Guest88292> Thrae, "Continuing your installation of this softare may impair or destabalize the correct operation of your system either immediately or in the future. Microsoft strongly recommends that you stop this installation now and contact the hardware vendor for software that has passed Windows Logo testing."
#631 [23:20] <Thrae> deadfire813: Yeah I remember a problem with Intel integrated graphics where you need to specify the memory to Java. Try using this batch file -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat
#632 [23:20] <Thrae> Guest88292: Ignore that and continue
#633 [23:20] <Guest88292> o.o
#634 [23:20] <Guest88292> k
#635 [23:20] <Thrae> Guest88292: That just means Microsoft hasn't gotten around to rubber-stamping it
#636 [23:21] <Thrae> deadfire813: Place that in the same directory as Minecraft.exe
#637 [23:21] <deadfire813> thrae kk
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#639 [23:22] <deadfire813> thrae 'C:\Program' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
#640 [23:23] <Thrae> deadfire813: Whoops; forgot some quotes. Re-download.
#641 [23:24] <deadfire813> same link?
#642 [23:24] <Thrae> Yep
#643 [23:24] <deadfire813> you know how to program btw?
#644 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> batch fiels are technicly scripting :P
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#646 [23:25] <Thrae> Yes, but Java is not my specialty (I assume you mean Java)
#647 [23:25] * |Kiikun| is taking a class in java and laughing at how similar it is to c and mirc script
#647 [23:25] <deadfire813> thrae no i was talking more python or lua
#648 [23:25] <deadfire813> The system cannot find the path specified.
#649 [23:25] <Thrae> deadfire813: Hmm, that means you don't have 64-bit Java 6 installed
#650 [23:26] <deadfire813> lemme cheak
#651 [23:26] <Thrae> deadfire813: http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp <-- download 64-bit from here
#652 [23:26] <deadfire813> nope i have 64 bit
#653 [23:27] <Thrae> deadfire813: In C:\Program Files\Java\jre6 ?
#654 [23:27] <|Kiikun|> or have java 7? :P
#655 [23:27] <deadfire813> no i don;t i have java 6
#656 [23:27] <Thrae> deadfire813: Use that page to install Java 6 Update 27 for 64-bit, you do have it for 32-bit
#657 [23:28] <deadfire813> no i have that its in
#658 [23:28] <Thrae> OK, what's your path for Java 6 64-bit?
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#660 [23:28] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: I'm still working on your drivers.
#661 [23:28] <deadfire813> C:\ Program Files (x86)
#662 [23:29] <mib_bvssab> Oh, ok :)
#663 [23:29] <guest-0-40660> hey hey can anyone help me i cant seem to make torches for a odd reason
#664 [23:29] <Thrae> deadfire813: C:\Program Files (x86) only contains 32-bit files by default. It contains your 32-bit Java installation. That's why I kept saying 64-bit, as on Windows you can have both 32-bit and 64-bit installed.
#665 [23:29] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-40660: torch = coal/charcoal on top of a stick
#666 [23:29] <guest-0-40660> i redownloaded, instaleld the game am putting coal over stick and it still wont work
#667 [23:29] <deadfire813> lol nope
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#669 [23:29] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-40660: screenshot please
#670 [23:29] <deadfire813> i moved it
#671 [23:29] <guest-727051-22670> hello?
#672 [23:30] <guest-727051-22670> Guys
#673 [23:30] <Thrae> deadfire813: You shouldn't do that. I don't think you can really move it. Maybe THAT's why you're getting these errors in the first place.
#674 [23:30] <deadfire813> its there not try it
#675 [23:30] <Thrae> deadfire813: Java registers a bunch of things in the registry, you can just move installed files and expect them to work.
#676 [23:30] <Thrae> deadfire813: Java registers a bunch of things in the registry, you CAN'T just move installed files and expect them to work.
#677 [23:30] <deadfire813> bro just try it
#678 [23:31] <guest-0-40660> sec ill get a ss
#679 [23:31] <|Kiikun|> otherguest: hi :P
#680 [23:31] <Thrae> deadfire813: You're getting an Exception Access Violation error, furthermore "[error occurred during error reporting (printing problematic frame)", something I've never seen before, so I am now convinced your Java installation is corrupt and should be reinstalled.
#681 [23:32] <Thrae> deadfire813: There's absolutely no reason to have 64-bit applications in Program Files (x86). It makes no sense. Your 32-bit browsers can't use 64-bit Java.
#682 [23:32] <guest-727051-22670> Java is a fail :P
#683 [23:32] <Thrae> guest-727051-22670: Java works fine for most people.
#684 [23:33] <guest-727051-22670> Yeah fine for macs
#685 [23:33] <deadfire813> thrae fine for me
#686 [23:33] <|Kiikun|> guest-727051-22670: nope. macs have issues :P
#687 [23:33] <guest-727051-22670> i have no java problems here
#688 [23:33] <deadfire813> thrae im just pulling chains
#689 [23:33] <guest-0-40660> k kilkun i got it http://s752.photobucket.com/albums/xx169/juggernaut150695/?action=view¤t=Untitled-1.png
#690 [23:34] <|Kiikun|> guest-727051-22670: if you ever have video driver problems.. your wholly boned though :D
#691 [23:34] <guest-727051-22670> im just wondering is there any way of withdrawing money in iconomy?
#692 [23:34] <guest-727051-22670> like gold
#693 [23:34] <Thrae> guest-727051-22670: Ask in #bukkit, they'd probably know there.
#694 [23:34] <deadfire813> thrae it was just fun to watch you get mad
#695 [23:35] * |Kiikun| lets Thrae dont/bother
#695 [23:35] <deadfire813> any thrae what scripting do you know first?
#696 [23:35] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-40660: is that on a server?
#697 [23:35] <guest-0-40660> no
#698 [23:35] <guest-0-40660> single player
#699 [23:36] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-40660: any mods? besides spc or tmi
#700 [23:36] <guest-0-40660> no only a texture pack atm
#701 [23:36] <guest-0-40660> had spc before patch havent installed yet
#702 [23:36] <guest-0-40660> and i delete the thign redownloaded thinking it might help
#703 [23:36] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-40660: you SURE that coal and not flint?
#704 [23:37] * |Kiikun| cant tell due to texture pack
#704 [23:37] <guest-0-40660> yes
#705 [23:38] <Thrae> deadfire813: I wasn't "getting mad". I was just going into verbose mode to make sure you understood.
#706 [23:38] <deadfire813> Thrae either way i was craking up
#707 [23:38] <|Kiikun|> wel... i cant seee whats wrong. last person with crafting issue was trying to put a wood block as a shovel head instead of planks
#708 [23:38] <guest-0-40660> bad ss but heres proof its coal http://s752.photobucket.com/albums/xx169/juggernaut150695/?action=view¤t=Untitled2.jpg
#709 [23:39] <deadfire813> thrae yah i have 64-bit the bat really does nothing
#710 [23:39] * Thrae shrugs.
#710 [23:40] <guest-0-40660> redstone torches work but their light blows
#711 [23:40] <|Kiikun|> redstone torches are light level like... 7 or 4 :P
#712 [23:40] <deadfire813> so anyways thrae what scripting do you know
#713 [23:40] <Thrae> deadfire813: Hmm, do you have a folder in C:\Program Files called "Java"? And a folder in that called "jre6"?
#714 [23:41] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-40660: i'd have to call this a modding issue. try without any mods, even hd patcher.
#715 [23:41] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: One more moment, please.
#716 [23:41] <deadfire813> thrae yah
#717 [23:41] <guest-0-40660> the world had mods on it before patch could this be the issue
#718 [23:41] <guest-0-40660> like i had the planes/ cars mod on there
#719 [23:41] <Thrae> deadfire813: And in the jre6 folder do you have a "bin" folder, and in that, a program called "javaw"?
#720 [23:41] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-40660: id LIKE to say it shouldnt...
#721 [23:42] <deadfire813> thrae si the program worked i just don't see the point to it
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#723 [23:42] <Thrae> deadfire813: I thought you were getting Access Violation crashes. Or was that a joke too?
#724 [23:42] <guest-0-40660> the whole thign was deleted and freshly downloaded i just dont have a clue wtf is up anymore everything else is normal
#725 [23:43] <Thrae> guest-0-40660: Out of curiosity, did you try a new map?
#726 [23:43] <deadfire813> the first violation crash was my java's fault the program worked fine after that
#727 [23:44] <Thrae> deadfire813: OK. Well the batch file also allocates more memory to Java, which can improve performance, especially when using Texture Packs, so you're welcome to use it.
#728 [23:44] * |Kiikun| just googled and cant find anyone else with this issue
#728 [23:45] <deadfire813> thrae kk so can you finally answer my question on witch scripting lang you use most
#729 [23:45] <guest-0-40660> yea neither could i
#730 [23:45] <guest-0-40660> decided to give this a try
#731 [23:46] <Thrae> deadfire813: Lua
#732 [23:46] <deadfire813> thrae thats what i thought
#733 [23:46] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: OK, you still there?
#734 [23:47] <Thrae> Although if you want to be more precise, Bourne Shell
#735 [23:49] <deadfire813> thrae i'm trying to learn lua from a friend of mine
#736 [23:50] <mib_bvssab> I'm here.
#737 [23:51] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: OK, go ahead and take that file you downloaded from Intel and EXTRACT its contents using something like 7zip (www.7zip.org)
#738 [23:51] <guest-0-40660> LF someone that cannot build torches so i dont fell alone
#739 [23:51] <|Kiikun|> deadfire813.health = 1
#740 [23:51] <|Kiikun|> :P
#741 [23:52] <|Kiikun|> opps forgot the ;
#742 [23:52] <deadfire813> lol?
#743 [23:52] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: Don't need ; on Lua ;)
#744 [23:52] <deadfire813> ahaha
#745 [23:52] * |Kiikun| LIKES the ;!
#745 [23:52] <Thrae> deadfire813: #lua on Freenode usually has helpful people, you just need to wait
#746 [23:52] * Thrae writes Lua all on one line and calls functions using quotes instead of parentheses!
#746 [23:53] <mib_bvssab> Thrae, which file, the one you sent me just now?
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#748 [23:53] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: The one I had you download from Intel -- it was the only file I had you download.
#749 [23:53] <deadfire813> thrae sounds like a total bad-ass
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#751 [23:54] <Thrae> Nah, I learned Lua because I coded WoW addons, how geeky is that.
#752 [23:54] <Carharttjimmy> Anyone need help?
#753 [23:54] <deadfire813> thrae lol
#754 [23:54] <deadfire813> thrae how old are you?
#755 [23:54] <Thrae> 30.
#756 [23:54] <mib_bvssab> Does WinRAR work?
#757 [23:54] <Carharttjimmy> I am 202
#758 [23:54] <deadfire813> threa ahhh
#759 [23:54] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Should, yeah.
#760 [23:55] <Carharttjimmy> WinRar works gret
#761 [23:55] <deadfire813> s
#762 [23:55] <mib_bvssab> extract all the files into a folder?
#763 [23:55] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Yeppers
#764 [23:56] <mib_bvssab> Huh, didn't know exe files could be extracted from :D
#765 [23:56] <mib_bvssab> Alright, its open.
#766 [23:56] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: They can if they're just simple executable archives (usually ZIPPED)
#767 [23:57] <Carharttjimmy> If you have linux you cant run .exe files :| Tidbit of the day
#768 [23:57] <Thrae> Carharttjimmy: Sure you can. Just not ones made for Windows ;)
#769 [23:58] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: OK, go into the Graphics folder in the folder you just made and download and copy this file into it, overwriting the file that's there -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/igxp32.inf
#770 [23:58] <Carharttjimmy> Haha, thats usually .tga or .tar
#771 [23:58] <Thrae> Carharttjimmy: TGA is an image extension for TARGA image files. TAR is an archive. Neither is generally executable.
#772 [23:58] <mib_bvssab> Done.
#773 [23:59] <Carharttjimmy> Uh huh, you are correct. Oh well, just trying tosound smart.
#774 [23:59] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: OK, go up one directory and run Setup.exe
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