#1 [00:00] <Thrae> Carharttjimmy: I'd suggest, "Extensions are a wussy leftover from the DOS days. Who cares?"
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#3 [00:01] <Carharttjimmy> I care :) lol, yeah, I disagree with it .exe and .msi but people like stuff to be automated
#4 [00:01] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: I'm doing this modding blind so lemme know if it gives the same error
#5 [00:01] <mib_bvssab> "This computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing this software."
#6 [00:02] <Carharttjimmy> run as admin mib_bvssab
#7 [00:02] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Well that's a *different* error
#8 [00:02] <Carharttjimmy> try that first
#9 [00:02] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: You have Windows XP 32-bit right?
#10 [00:02] <mib_bvssab> Yeps
#11 [00:03] * |Kiikun| suicide leaps from house-tower at ~120 and managed to land in pool :D
#11 [00:04] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Is this what you installed from Lenovo -- http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/6jd106ww.exe
#12 [00:04] * Carharttjimmy moves the pool for |Kiikun| and watches a splatter occur
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#13 [00:08] <mib_bvssab> Ah, I needa go to the doctor now.
#14 [00:09] <mib_bvssab> I'll come back later, Thrae
#15 [00:09] <Carharttjimmy> Minecraft > personal health
#16 [00:09] <Thrae> Minecraft Avatar Health > Personal Health
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#20 [00:12] <Wombatunder> is 1.8 server stable?
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#22 [00:12] <Carharttjimmy> stable as it can be
#23 [00:13] <Thrae> Wombatunder: Yes, just not for most modded servers.
#24 [00:13] <Arco> Anyone offering help right now?
#25 [00:13] <Wombatunder> ok, I only have a vanilla one
#26 [00:13] <Thrae> Note that it's version 1.8.1 now.
#27 [00:13] <guest-750489-01388> hey there, i downloaded the beta but can't seem to log on, it says 'user not premium' what does that mean?
#28 [00:13] <JohnEBH> guest-750489-01388- Username please?
#29 [00:13] <Thrae> guest-750489-01388: Your account isn't premium. How long ago did you purchase Minecraft?
#30 [00:13] <JohnEBH> guest-750489-01388- And did you pay for beta?
#31 [00:13] <Thrae> Arco: Go ahead.
#32 [00:13] <Carharttjimmy> Arco, what do you need?
#33 [00:14] <guest-750489-01388> nope ... so i have to pay before play?
#34 [00:14] <Thrae> !demo
#35 [00:14] <JohnEBH> guest-750489-01388- Beta is not free to play
#36 [00:14] <JohnEBH> guest-750489-01388- However classic is
#37 [00:14] <JohnEBH> ??> guest-750489-01388 demo
#38 [00:14] <VoxelHead> guest-750489-01388: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#39 [00:14] <VoxelHead> guest-750489-01388: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#40 [00:14] <Thrae> guest-750489-01388: There's a 90-minute demo, and a version with much less features called "Classic", that's about it
#41 [00:14] <Wombatunder> if I update my server to 1.8.1 do I have to update my client to 1.8.1 too? I play on another modded server that's still 1.7.4
#42 [00:14] <JohnEBH> There's only 1.7.3 >.>"
#43 [00:15] <guest-750489-01388> perfect, thank you very much.
#44 [00:15] <Arco> I'm on Mac OSX, 10.6.8. I updated to try out 1.8, but my SMP server is still running 1.7.3. I'm trying to swap in a 1.7.3 bin into my Minecraft folder, but whenever I do that, I get a black screen after the launcher. The launcher works fine, asks me to update (no), then I just get a black screen.
#45 [00:15] <JohnEBH> But usre let's make up random version number for the hell of it.
#46 [00:15] <JohnEBH> Sure*
#47 [00:15] <Carharttjimmy> 1.7.4 sounds fun
#48 [00:15] <Thrae> Wombatunder: Yes, you need client 1.8.1 for server 1.8.1. They generally need to be the same version. Just make a backup of minecraft.jar and copy it back when you need to.
#49 [00:15] <Arco> I can update and play 1.8 fine, but trying to run a 1.7.3 bin results in that black screen, no matter what I do. I've reproduced this on a friend's computer; he's running Mac OSX, too.
#50 [00:15] <Wombatunder> ok, thanks
#51 [00:15] <JohnEBH> Arco- Run a 1.8 server...
#52 [00:15] <Arco> JohnEBH: That's not an option.
#53 [00:16] <JohnEBH> And why not?
#54 [00:16] <Thrae> ??> Arco oldversion
#55 [00:16] <VoxelHead> Arco: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#56 [00:16] <Arco> Because the server I'm playing on uses extensive mods and addons that aren't updated for 1.8 yet.
#57 [00:16] <Thrae> Arco: Use the MCNostalia tool ^^^^ to patch it from 1.8.1 to 1.7.3.
#58 [00:16] <JohnEBH> That's an option ^
#59 [00:16] <JohnEBH> I still think just moving onto 1.8 modless is fine.
#60 [00:17] <Thrae> Well, some servers are "themed" using mods and Bukkit plugins.
#61 [00:17] * |Kiikun| is playing on a server with unmodded 1.8.1 :P
#61 [00:17] <Arco> That's... not really helpful. Or an answer to my question.
#62 [00:17] <JohnEBH> Arco- You've been giving a link to MCNostalia tool
#63 [00:18] <Arco> re: MCNostalgia, does anyone have any experience using it? I'm running into an issue where I've put the patch files into the appropriate folders (I think), but it keeps saying "patch files not found."
#64 [00:18] <Thrae> Arco: I'm sorry that's not helpful but what you're doing is not only essentially modding Minecraft, which we don't normally help with, but it's on Mac OS X where as most people here use Windows.
#65 [00:19] <Arco> Yeah. Has anyone else ever heard of this black screen problem?
#66 [00:19] <JohnEBH> Plenty of people have it.
#67 [00:19] <Arco> It's weird, because everyone else I talk to is like, "just swap in a 1.7.3 bin. No problem." It seems to work fine for most people, and I've tried tons of different bins. My own, friends, etc. None of them are working.
#68 [00:20] <JohnEBH> Windows.
#69 [00:20] <Thrae> Arco: Go into the directory while it has 1.8.1 in it and make a copy of minecraft.jar to something like minecraft_1.8.1.jar and then copy over the minecraft.jar from the 1.7.3 bin to the current bin.
#70 [00:21] <Thrae> I'm personally able to switch between 1.8.1 and 1.7.3 fine this way on Windows.
#71 [00:21] <JohnEBH> Same. =P
#72 [00:21] <Arco> Right? I don't know what the deal is. And I've talked to people on OSX who can do it no problem, too.
#73 [00:21] <Thrae> The rest of the files concern libraries Minecraft uses, but does not actually develop.
#74 [00:22] <Thrae> Arco: Did you try swapping out *just* the minecraft JARs?
#75 [00:22] <Arco> Not yet. In the process of doing that now.
#76 [00:22] <Arco> Previously it's been the entire /bin/ folder.
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#78 [00:25] <Puddles> I just started up my server, right now it's on survive mode. How do I get it on build mode?
#79 [00:25] <Thrae> Puddles: I think you mean it's on Survival mode and you need it on Creative mode? Is this Vanilla server?
#80 [00:26] <Puddles> Yes to the first part of the question. What to you mean about Vailla server?
#81 [00:27] <Thrae> Are you running a modded server like Bukkit?
#82 [00:27] <Arco> Oh holy shit!
#83 [00:27] <Arco> Thrae! You did it!
#84 [00:27] <Puddles> No, it's the stranded server you get off of the minecraft site
#85 [00:28] <Arco> Swapping out JUST the minecraft.jar file for a confirmed 1.7.3 jar file totally worked.
#86 [00:28] <Arco> Thank you SO much.
#87 [00:28] <Arco> Having to boot into Windows just to play Minecraft because my stupid OSX install was borked was so fucking dumb.
#88 [00:28] * AuBot kicked Arco from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rco :Please keep it civil.)
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#90 [00:28] <Arco> Apparently the channel doesn't like swear words. Eep.
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#92 [00:28] <Puddles> lol
#93 [00:29] <Thrae> Puddles: Try one of these tutorials -- http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=minecraft+1.8+change+game+mode&aq=f
#94 [00:29] <Arco> Anyway. Thanks again, really appreciate it. I've been struggling with this since 1.7, when I tried to go back from 1.7 to 1.6.
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#96 [00:35] <Puddles> :( that didn't help
#97 [00:35] <Thrae> Puddles: NONE those 10+ tutorials helped?
#98 [00:35] <Thrae> *of those
#99 [00:35] <Puddles> I only looked at one, I'll look again
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#102 [00:46] <Puddles> yay it worked ^_^
#103 [00:50] <Coll> god I hate the minecraft forums so immature
#104 [00:50] <Coll> I mean that link from Aubot to fix minecraft for OSX is a perfect example
#105 [00:51] <Coll> Anyways any updates about patches or anything?
#106 [00:51] <Thrae> That's pretty much how all the Internet is. The closer you get to the source of "memes" the more immature it becomes.
#107 [00:51] <Thrae> Coll: You mean for the OpenGL 1.3 problem people are having?
#108 [00:52] <Coll> yes
#109 [00:52] <Coll> I didnt realize minecraft was a source of memes
#110 [00:52] <Thrae> Notch says he's including the fix in Update 1.9. As there is an unofficial fix out there, and it's relatively a rare problem, I doubt he's going to push it out, but maybe he will.
#111 [00:53] <Coll> hmm
#112 [00:53] <Thrae> And when I say "fix" I mean a fix for people's problems with OpenGL, as it actually limits things for most other people who have no problem.
#113 [00:54] <Thrae> Newer versions of OpenGL have better hardware support, yet Notch is choosing to use OpenGL 1.2, not even made in this millennium, to fix some people's problems with bad graphics drivers.
#114 [00:56] <Thrae> Anyway, I'm willing to work with someone to make an easier way to patch in Travis's unofficial fix.
#115 [00:57] <Thrae> I can't really test it out as I don't have a computer which only supports up to OpenGL 1.2.
#116 [00:57] <Coll> how easier can you make it ti install a mod
#117 [00:57] <Coll> execpt for like a executable
#118 [00:58] <Thrae> I was thinking of either a script which does everything from the command line or a program that can apply binary patches.
#119 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft browser, mod database, single click to download and apply a patch
#120 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> Also a method to send a fist to the head for those that still can't mod after
#121 [00:59] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Mac version of that? *googles*
#122 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I wish
#123 [00:59] <Thrae> Yeah, we're talking of the OpenGL 1.3 fix
#124 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> I'm talking about any mod/patches at all
#125 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> Would save so much time in here.
#126 [01:00] <Thrae> Wait, are you talking about a program that already exists, or a program you want to exist?
#127 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> The latter
#128 [01:00] <Thrae> Right. Gotcha.
#129 [01:01] <Thrae> Well I can make a batch file on Windows to do it no problem, it's OS X I have to read on...
#130 [01:01] <Thrae> I had someone come in here earlier today who swore he somehow uninstalled the built-in Archive Utility.
#131 [01:02] <Thrae> Cool, OS X seems to have "unzip".
#132 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Java program that automatically has MCnostalgia built in, so you can just switch to a prior version using a slider. Automatic mod compatibility using an (in a perfect world, an AI that combs and organizes all mods by version and inter-mod dependency/compatibility)...
#133 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Ah well, pipe dreams..
#134 [01:03] <Thrae> ModLoader / ModLoaderMP is so horrible. Hopefully more people will get the message and switch to something like Spout.
#135 [01:04] * GreyVulpine looks up spout
#135 [01:04] * GreyVulpine has been hearing that too often to not know what it is
#135 [01:05] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: SpoutLauncher, even without Spout support on the server, is awesome. OptiFine, HD Patcher, and a ton of other features built-in.
#136 [01:05] <|Kiikun|> ah.
#137 [01:06] * GreyVulpine nods, is reading that.
#137 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> Sounds interesting
#138 [01:13] <JohnEBH> !check MPG.JHServers.net
#139 [01:13] * JohnEBH dances around room
#139 [01:14] <Thrae> JohnEBH: If you have that much trouble with that server you should just do a Custom Port Probe using Shields Up! -- that'll give you more information, like if the port is open or closed :)
#140 [01:14] <JohnEBH> It's not trouble with servers, it's trouble with McMyAdmin hating my guts T.T
#141 [01:14] * GreyVulpine snrks
#141 [01:14] <Thrae> Ah
#142 [01:15] <JohnEBH> Usually it wouldn't go through right. McMyAdmin Banner - Running, Minecraft - No response, AuBot - EVERYTHING LOOKS GRIM FOR YOU. GTFO.
#143 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> !seen kane_hart
#144 [01:16] <GreyBot> I found no results for your !Seen query.
#145 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#146 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> There's a #permissionsex
#147 [01:17] <JohnEBH> Wait channel or plugin?
#148 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> channel
#149 [01:18] <Thrae> But yeah, I think Spout is ready to be updated to the official mod API when it comes out. I think that's their plan.
#150 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Just looking at #minecrafthelp's channel flags list... cleaning up some names
#151 [01:18] <JohnEBH> Hmmmm, PermsEx vs SuperPerms vs Perms 3...
#152 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Kane_hart is on the vop list here, don't think I've seen them here in a long time
#153 [01:18] <JohnEBH> And when is bukkit gonna be updated T.T
#154 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> NEVA
#155 [01:19] <JohnEBH> Nuuuuu!
#156 [01:19] * JohnEBH cries in a corner
#156 [01:19] * GreyVulpine pokes thrae
#156 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> You haven't registered that nick?
#157 [01:19] <JohnEBH> Heheheheh....
#158 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. yes you have, you just haven't identified for it. Pfft.
#159 [01:20] <JohnEBH> lol
#160 [01:21] <JohnEBH> uh oh...
#161 [01:22] * JohnEBH impersonates Thrae
#161 [01:22] <JohnEBH> I wouldn't ^.^
#162 [01:22] <Threa> :P
#163 [01:22] <JohnEBH> lol
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#166 [01:34] <mib_cf6imk> hello? I'm having problems with minecraft and was wonderinif someone could help me :(
#167 [01:40] <Thrae> He waited for 3 minutes. Getting there.
#168 [01:42] <JohnEBH> Mibbits + Need help = Short attention span.
#169 [01:47] <Carharttjimmy> ADHD support helper + IRC = bad
#170 [01:47] <Carharttjimmy> :P
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#173 [01:50] <mib_bvssab> Thrae!
#174 [01:51] <mib_bvssab> Well, I can't get into Minecraft, so ATM my personal health is more important :D
#175 [01:51] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: I was just joking. Are you back for more troubleshooting?
#176 [01:51] <mib_bvssab> I know xD
#177 [01:51] <mib_bvssab> Well, yeps
#178 [01:52] <mib_bvssab> Ok, so, what do I do about the error?
#179 [01:52] <mib_bvssab> "The computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software."
#180 [01:56] <Thrae> OK. Lemme check.
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#185 [02:06] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Do you know how to go into Device Manager?
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#187 [02:08] <mib_bvssab> Yes.
#188 [02:08] <ladykalessia> Howdy
#189 [02:08] <mib_bvssab> Hi.
#190 [02:09] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: OK, go into Device Manager, under Display adapters, go into the properties for your Intel 4 Express chipset (should be the only one there)
#191 [02:09] <ladykalessia> can someone direct me to an official bug tracker, if one exists?
#192 [02:09] <|Kiikun|> ladykalessia: read topic
#193 [02:09] <ladykalessia> doh!
#194 [02:09] * ladykalessia facepalms.
#194 [02:09] <ladykalessia> Thanks.
#195 [02:10] <ladykalessia> after flooding the forum's search like eight times. :P
#196 [02:11] <Thrae> Also comes up for "report+minecraft+bugs" in Google :)
#197 [02:12] * |Kiikun| twiddles thumbs while microsoft's java clone installs v4
#197 [02:13] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Actually looks like there's an even newer driver I didn't have you download -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19412/a08/winxp_144211.exe (needed to figure out your general chipset)
#198 [02:14] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Let's try that and see if you get the same error.
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#200 [02:19] <Ashmere> Sorry guys, im noob to IRC but i have a problem, just bought MC and try to get onto a server it tells me bad Login... any ideas?
#201 [02:19] <ladykalessia> alright, didn't find it, so I added it on GS.
#202 [02:20] <|Kiikun|> Ashmere: means the server has trouble connecting to minecraft.net. give it a bit and try again.
#203 [02:20] <ladykalessia> and now I feel excessively silly for being so creeped out by disembodied spider noises. :P
#204 [02:20] <Thrae> ladykalessia: What's the report, if I may ask?
#205 [02:20] <Ashmere> Thank Kiikun. ill try again in a min
#206 [02:21] <Ashmere> It works... yay, thank you for the help, i appreciate it
#207 [02:22] <ladykalessia> We had a 1.8_pre world generated, and I found a mine shaft that started making spider slurping noises at me.
#208 [02:22] <|Kiikun|> ladykalessia: that cudl just mean theres spiders nearby that see you... since they see through walls
#209 [02:22] <ladykalessia> On peaceful mode?
#210 [02:22] <|Kiikun|> ... ah
#211 [02:22] <ladykalessia> yeah.
#212 [02:23] <ladykalessia> I read later that silverfish use the spider noise as a placeholder, so I am making a wild guess here
#213 [02:23] <|Kiikun|> ooohhh...
#214 [02:23] <ladykalessia> but I think I found a silverfish shaft and there's probably an invisible swarm around me.
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#216 [02:23] <ladykalessia> which is, you know, cool and all, except I never play with monsters on because I *don't like monsters*
#217 [02:24] <ladykalessia> and it's absolutely impossible to mine in that area with my speakers on.
#218 [02:24] * |Kiikun| plays on a peaceful server and has fun building :3
#218 [02:24] <ladykalessia> and thankfully someone already reported the dungeon spawners being always on.
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#220 [02:25] * ladykalessia jumped a foot when I she heard zombie noises at the bottom of her mine. :(
#220 [02:25] <Thrae> ladykalessia: AFAIK right now the way Peaceful works on Survival is that hostile mobs spawn, but then they are removed. Maybe what you heard was the lag between the mob spawning and then being removed.
#221 [02:26] <Thrae> *on Survival/Creative
#222 [02:27] <Thrae> Alternatively, maybe the hostile mobs are only removed on-spawn in Peaceful and there was a bug in 1.8_pre that let them spawn in your world without being removed.
#223 [02:27] <ladykalessia> hmnn. I'm playing on 1.8 GA now, so wouldn't that be fixed then?
#224 [02:27] <ladykalessia> there were like 8 zombies sitting in a stack - thankfully there was a water flow nearby that was pushing them into a wall
#225 [02:28] <Thrae> Well just updating the version doesn't retroactively fix maps unless Notch specifically places something retroactive in there.
#226 [02:28] <ladykalessia> ahhh, interesting. I wasn't sure.
#227 [02:28] <ladykalessia> so in order to get the silverfish noises to disappear, it seems like I'd have to generate a new world.
#228 [02:28] <Thrae> Yeah, since the map was made in 1.8_pre it might not go through as stringent checks
#229 [02:29] <ladykalessia> sadness. :(
#230 [02:30] <|Kiikun|> um...
#231 [02:30] <|Kiikun|> mcedit? delete entities
#232 [02:30] <Thrae> Yeah, was about to mention that
#233 [02:30] <ladykalessia> I haven't played around with modders yet, but I'll take that as a suggestion.
#234 [02:30] <Thrae> McEdit doesn't mod Minecraft, it edits maps directly.
#235 [02:30] <ladykalessia> (also, it's really interesting to get that insight into the architecture. < / silicon valley nerd >)
#236 [02:30] <|Kiikun|> its not a mod persay.. its an external tool.
#237 [02:31] <ladykalessia> Didn't realize there was a distinction, sorry.
#238 [02:31] <ladykalessia> I haven't played with anything bug the straight up official product. :)
#239 [02:31] <Thrae> In the future, it
#240 [02:32] <Thrae> In the future, it's as simple as moving your world folder/directory to another location to make a copy of it. You should do this before any update, even official ones.
#241 [02:32] <Thrae> Minecraft is still technically in Beta and we're all testers :)
#242 [02:33] <Kealper> Thrae: check your PMs :P
#243 [02:38] <ladykalessia> thanks folks. :) and goodnight.
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#248 [03:00] <mib_bvssab> Is Thrae here?
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#250 [03:06] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Yep.
#251 [03:06] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: The last thing I wanted you to do is try this driver, which is different than the first one I had you try and install -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19412/a08/winxp_144211.exe
#252 [03:07] <mib_bvssab> Oh
#253 [03:07] <mib_bvssab> I already tried installing that
#254 [03:07] <mib_bvssab> Same error.
#255 [03:07] <mib_bvssab> Told me to get the right driver.
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#262 [03:38] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Sorry. OK, got "Driver Not Validated"?
#263 [03:38] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: OK, go into Device Manager, under Display adapters, go into the properties for your Intel 4 Express chipset (should be the only one there)
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#266 [03:45] <adamkex> Thrae: have you hosted a minecraft server before?
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#268 [03:47] <mib_bvssab> There;s TWO there actually.
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#270 [03:50] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Weird. What do they say?
#271 [03:50] <Thrae> adamkex: Yes. For a while now. I like to use Bukkit.
#272 [03:51] <mib_bvssab> Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
#273 [03:51] <mib_bvssab> There are TWO of them
#274 [03:51] <mib_bvssab> which is weird
#275 [03:51] <mib_bvssab> I looked at both of their properties
#276 [03:51] <mib_bvssab> and the only difference is
#277 [03:51] <mib_bvssab> Under Location
#278 [03:52] <mib_bvssab> one says "Function 1"
#279 [03:52] <mib_bvssab> and the other says "Function 0"
#280 [03:53] <Thrae> Hmm. Well, Function 0 sounds index-y, so let's go into the Properties for that one, then go to the Driver tab and select Update Driver.
#281 [03:53] <mib_bvssab> ok, then?
#282 [03:53] <Thrae> Extract the EXE you just downloaded, the new one
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#284 [03:55] <mib_bvssab> Done.
#285 [03:55] <adamkex> Thrae: do you know how much of a difference it will make if my harddrive read/writes at 110 MB/s compared to 275 MB/s (7200rpm vs SSD)?
#286 [03:56] <Thrae> OK, go back to the Update Driver wizard and select "Browser for my driver" or whatever the manual one is called.
#287 [03:56] <mib_bvssab> Alright.
#288 [03:56] <Thrae> adamkex: Depends on the size of the server and what the server is running. Personally I had lag until I switched to a 200MB ramdisk.
#289 [03:57] <Thrae> *what OS the server is running
#290 [03:57] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: You want to browse into the directory of WhereYouJustExtracted\Graphics
#291 [03:57] <mib_bvssab> Yeeeeeeees.
#292 [03:57] <adamkex> Thrae: it is not running any OS because it is not bought yet
#293 [03:57] <mib_bvssab> lol
#294 [04:00] <Thrae> adamkex: OK, well, I've personally found some OSes handle running Minecraft on 7200RPM fine up to medium-sized servers (like 15 people at once). Note that SSD is best for read, not write, while Minecraft is write-heavy. So I don't think it's really a matter of 7200RPM vs SSD. RAID0 would be cheaper and easier.
#295 [04:00] <Thrae> adamkex: Even better than RAID0 would be RAID1+0 or RAID0+1, also known as RAID10.
#296 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> RAID1+0 != raid10
#297 [04:01] <GreyVulpine> RAID10 == two RAID5s on seperate controllers
#298 [04:01] <adamkex> the SSD writes at 275MB/s and reads at 280MB/s
#299 [04:01] <GreyVulpine> or, fault tolerant with the raid volume, and the controller
#300 [04:02] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: You're joking, right?
#301 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> I'm not
#302 [04:02] <adamkex> Thrae: we are talking about up to 10 people + file server
#303 [04:03] <Thrae> The definition of RAID10 was created for mdadm and is usually implemented by controllers as RAID0+1. If you're talking about striping two RAID5s, that's usually called "RAID50".
#304 [04:04] <GreyVulpine> not striping, mirroring two RAID5s
#305 [04:04] <Thrae> That'd be RAID51. I have never, ever heard that called RAID10.
#306 [04:05] <Thrae> adamkex: What OS are you thinking of?
#307 [04:05] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Is the driver installing? Where are you right now in the process?
#308 [04:06] <adamkex> Thrae: Ubuntu, Debian, or Gentoo, in the end i will run the same software anyways
#309 [04:06] <mib_bvssab> It didn't install
#310 [04:06] <mib_bvssab> I extracted the thing
#311 [04:06] <mib_bvssab> and went to the directory
#312 [04:06] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: What error did it give?
#313 [04:06] <mib_bvssab> and it opened the folder.
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#315 [04:07] <mib_bvssab> I thought maybe you wanted me to select something in the folder and you were attending to someone else at the moment
#316 [04:07] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Oh, no, sorry. I wanted you to go through the Update Driver wizard and browse to the folder where you extracted everything, then the Graphics folder, and let it search there.
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#318 [04:08] <Thrae> adamkex: Do you care at all about hard drive redundancy?
#319 [04:08] <adamkex> Thrae: i am not interested in RAID, i have a budget
#320 [04:08] <Ariakas> anyone here?
#321 [04:09] <Ariakas> i needz help
#322 [04:09] <Thrae> adamkex: Linux has decent software RAID, but I prefer BSD or Solaris's ZFS. BSD is probably easier to deal with than Solaris.
#323 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> Thrae - Huh, guess you're right. I've been using RAID 10 as two mirrored RAID 5s for years.
#324 [04:09] <mib_bvssab> It said it couldn't find anything better inside.
#325 [04:10] <Ariakas> Whats the name of the mod that adds a creative-like inventory?
#326 [04:10] <Ariakas> toggled on/off with o
#327 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> Have never come across RAID1+0 or 0+1 as termed RAID10
#328 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> TMI
#329 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> toomanyitems
#330 [04:10] <Ariakas> ty
#331 [04:10] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Yeah, sorry if I sounded indignant -- if I was honestly mistaken, I was willing to fess up to it. I've just gotten into a bunch of RAID arguments back in my day when I used mdadm.
#332 [04:11] <Thrae> But I'm honestly no redundancy guru. Still learning!
#333 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> No worries, I learn something new everyday.
#334 [04:11] <Thrae> adamkex: IMHO, ZFS is software RAID that can beat out $300 controllers.
#335 [04:13] * Thrae is currently experimenting with ICH10R RAID5 (Intel Matrix Hybrid RAID) on his desktop
#335 [04:13] <adamkex> Thrae: i haven't had good experiences with FreeBSD. I was planning to use JFS on a SSD and ext4 on a storage/backup drive which is 5900rpm
#336 [04:14] <Thrae> adamkex: OK, well, if you're going for SSD make sure it has TRIM support for Linux.
#337 [04:15] <mib_bvssab> "Windows could not find a better match for your hardware than the one you have installed. (Something about pressing back to search in another location)"
#338 [04:15] <Thrae> Personally I would just give Minecraft an extra 200MB and put it in a ramdisk. Always solves my I/O problems with it.
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#340 [04:16] <Thrae> I lazily just copy the world over by crontab to hard disk every 15 minutes. There are much better solutions.
#341 [04:17] <Thrae> It's hard to beat ramdisks in speed :)
#342 [04:17] <adamkex> Thrae: hehe :)
#343 [04:18] <Thrae> World loading from 0% to 100% is about 1 second!
#344 [04:18] * GreyVulpine can't wait for memristors to go mainstream
#344 [04:18] <adamkex> Thrae: how much RPM do you have?
#345 [04:19] <adamkex> Thrae: for the rest of the OS to load
#346 [04:19] <Thrae> adamkex: Well, it's a server, so that means you shouldn't care about boot time.
#347 [04:19] <adamkex> Thrae: i meant for other programs
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#349 [04:21] <adamkex> Thrae: how much minecraft do you have in your ramdisk? jar files and all the libs or just your world?
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#351 [04:23] <Thrae> adamkex: In later versions of Minecraft, worlds take up a small amount of space initially. We're a small private server of about 5 people and the world takes up 31MB right now. It will grow in size as it's explored and things are added, of course. I have the extra space for multi-world.
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#353 [04:23] <chark3n> is anyone having issues with picking up slimeballs
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#355 [04:24] <mib_kdw3ll> why doesn't it work for 10.5.8 owners?
#356 [04:24] <Thrae> mib_bvssab: Whoops, I forgot about you again :( Sorry. You can /query or /msg me if I forget.
#357 [04:25] <tyteen4a03> mib_kdw3ll: because 10.5.8 doesn't support OpenGL 1.3, but there is a fix for it
#358 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> Because 10.5.8 does't support OpenGL1.3
#359 [04:25] <mib_bvssab> Haha, its ok
#360 [04:25] <adamkex> Thrae: i meant what files are on the ramdisk, we are just max 10 people
#361 [04:25] <tyteen4a03> FOR ONCE I NINJA'D GreyVulpine
#362 [04:25] <tyteen4a03> PARTY
#363 [04:25] * GreyVulpine kicks tyteen4a03
#363 [04:25] <tyteen4a03> :<
#364 [04:25] <adamkex> Thrae: if like minecraft_server.jar is located in it aswell
#365 [04:25] <tyteen4a03> anyways the OpenGL 1.3 thing should be in the faqs
#366 [04:25] <wikkit> i cant load my minecraft because i apparantly i have bad video card drivers how can i fix this?
#367 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/10.5.8
#368 [04:25] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#369 [04:25] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#370 [04:25] <Thrae> adamkex: There's no reason to ramdisk anything else except the world I've found. I've tinkered with ramdisking the JAR and Bukkit plugins and it doesn't really seem to make a difference except an extra second in load time.
#371 [04:26] <adamkex> Thrae: alright, what i care about is how fast the world loads when going to different places...
#372 [04:26] <wikkit> i cant load my minecraft because i apparantly i have bad video card drivers how can i fix this?
#373 [04:26] <Thrae> adamkex: That's entirely the I/O speed of accessing the world files.
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#375 [04:27] <mib_kdw3ll> thank you guys! =)
#376 [04:27] <adamkex> Thrae: i might not need an SSD for the OS and minecraft if i have the ramdisk for minecraft and take some extra seconds for some other programs
#377 [04:28] <wikkit> i cant load my minecraft because i have bad video card drivers how can i fix this without spending money?
#378 [04:29] <Thrae> adamkex: Yeah, my desktop has two SSDs that used to be in RAID0, as well as a RAID0 of WD Black 7200RPM and a RAID0 of 10k RPM Raptors and I never really found a huge difference between all of them except for a few select games that seem just plain less optimized for I/O.
#379 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> wikkit - Try updating your video drivers?
#380 [04:29] <adamkex> Thrae: yeah, do you think this processor will be good enough for max 10 people? https://www.inet.se/artikel/5308658/amd-athlon2-x2-260-3-2ghz
#381 [04:29] <wikkit> i dun that GreyVulpine
#382 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> wikkit - How you dun that
#383 [04:30] <adamkex> Thrae: minecraft seems to only use one core
#384 [04:30] <Thrae> adamkex: Yes. What's more important is max RAM. For a Minecraft + File server I've found 4GB is cutting it close.
#385 [04:30] <Thrae> adamkex: Java has multi-core capability, Minecraft itself mostly uses one.
#386 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> Alright then
#387 [04:31] <adamkex> Thrae: i am planning 4GB, my minecraft process on my cousins server seems to use 1200GB ram
#388 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#389 [04:32] <adamkex> MB
#390 [04:32] <adamkex> sorry
#391 [04:32] * GreyVulpine would've said..
#391 [04:32] <adamkex> GreyVulpine: sleep is for the weak...
#392 [04:32] <Thrae> adamkex: File servers can be expensive in RAM if they're used very often. Especially with downloading files off the internet *coughtorrentingcough*
#393 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#394 [04:34] <adamkex> Thrae: hehe, i don't do that a lot
#395 [04:34] <adamkex> i'll download sabayon which is 4.7gb or something to see how much ram i use
#396 [04:36] <adamkex> or 2.1.. works aswell
#397 [04:37] <adamkex> gawd it is using 33% of my processor
#398 [04:39] <adamkex> Thrae: on the other hand it is not using a lot of RAM
#399 [04:39] <adamkex> 1%
#400 [05:00] <Thrae> adamkex: By the way, just remembered Nexenta. You should check it out -- Solaris kernel with GNU userland, so it feels like Debian/Ubuntu/Gentoo (all using the GNU OS), yet has all the benefits of Solaris and especially ZFS.
#401 [05:06] <Thrae> ??< mac/10.5.8
#402 [05:16] <adamkex> Thrae: but if i use ramdisk then i wont need ZFS for performance?
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#404 [05:18] <MtJoy> im having a problem with the running of MineCraft
#405 [05:19] <MtJoy> I have 2 Hard Drives and it is installed on my Slave Hard Drive and Java is on my Master
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#407 [05:19] <Jacers> Anyone know why I would be getting Cant reach server error on a server that is up and running?
#408 [05:20] <MtJoy> it was fixed once with a script that linked the 2, but for some reason that has just been deleted at somepoint and I cant find it or the minecraft files, but when i try re-install minecraft it just opens it up from somewhere in my computer
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#410 [05:20] <Jacers> open minecraft, go to textures, click open texturepack folder
#411 [05:20] <MtJoy> so can some one help me, what I want to do is Delet all minecraft files afrom my slave Hard Drive and re-install on my master so i dont thave any other issues
#412 [05:21] <Jacers> Mtjoy
#413 [05:21] <Jacers> do what I said
#414 [05:21] <Jacers> it opens the folder that has all the minecraft goodies
#415 [05:21] <MtJoy> all i can get to is the login screen
#416 [05:22] <Jacers> oh
#417 [05:22] <MtJoy> it bklack screens if i login
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#419 [05:22] <Jacers> are you on vista or 7?
#420 [05:22] <MtJoy> and i dont know where the minecraft files have gone
#421 [05:22] <MtJoy> 7
#422 [05:22] <Jacers> search for %appdata%
#423 [05:22] <Jacers> thats how the tutorials say to do it on those two
#424 [05:22] <Jacers> my XP didnt find anything
#425 [05:23] <Jacers> should find .minecraft
#426 [05:23] <MtJoy> AHA!!
#427 [05:23] <MtJoy> ok we are hetting places
#428 [05:23] <MtJoy> i found it
#429 [05:23] <Jacers> i dunno why, it's so buried and hidden
#430 [05:23] <MtJoy> YEAH THAT MAKES NO SENCE
#431 [05:24] <MtJoy> soz caps
#432 [05:24] <MtJoy> so
#433 [05:24] <Jacers> its in a folder that you checked before?
#434 [05:24] <Jacers> same here
#435 [05:24] <Thrae> adamkex: Well, ZFS has one of the best volume compression implementations in terms of I/O performance -- it can actually speed things up!
#436 [05:24] <MtJoy> if i just del the files will that remove the whole game so i can re-install it?
#437 [05:24] <Jacers> ye
#438 [05:24] <Thrae> ??> MtJoy win/reinst/bat
#439 [05:24] <VoxelHead> MtJoy: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#440 [05:24] <VoxelHead> MtJoy: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#441 [05:24] <Thrae> Just use that batch file.
#442 [05:24] <Jacers> uhg
#443 [05:24] <Jacers> voxel
#444 [05:24] <Jacers> he just did that ><
#445 [05:25] <Thrae> MtJoy: Are you playing Minecraft in your browser?
#446 [05:25] <MtJoy> no
#447 [05:25] <Thrae> Then that batch file will remove the files without deleting your world or saves.
#448 [05:26] <adamkex> Thrae: i see, i still don't get it. why is that relevant if i use ramdisk which is really fast?
#449 [05:26] <MtJoy> lok so i run that and it will del all the installs and re-install
#450 [05:26] <Thrae> It's always in the same location on Windows -- %APPDATA%\.minecraft
#451 [05:26] <Thrae> Yes, after you run the launcher again and login.
#452 [05:26] <MtJoy> cauz i just want to move it to my master Hard drive so i dont have any other issues with java
#453 [05:28] <Thrae> adamkex: Well, there's one thing I didn't mention -- snapshots. ZFS has an excellent way to keep copies of data by using something similar to hard links where the same data isn't stored more than once. And it's very easy to recover from. Really I would say the main reason you'd want a fileserver is for data protection and redundancy, or to serve files to multiple computers. Otherwise you'd just be using big 2TB+ exter
#454 [05:28] <Thrae> nal HDDs and save money and time.
#455 [05:29] <Thrae> MtJoy: What do you mean? I wasn't here earlier, so I don't know your problem.
#456 [05:29] <MtJoy> ok well i still have the same problem so this is it all
#457 [05:29] <MtJoy> I have 2 hard drives
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#459 [05:30] <MtJoy> Java is on my smaller one with my OS ect
#460 [05:30] <MtJoy> but minecraft is on the other
#461 [05:30] <Thrae> MtJoy: Why do you need to move the contents of %APPDATA%\.minecraft to a different hard drive? Is it running out of space?
#462 [05:30] <adamkex> Thrae: i see. do you think open source linux/bsd compatible world mapping software would work?
#463 [05:30] <Thrae> MtJoy: Unless you setup a symlink or junction point, it's on your system drive.
#464 [05:30] <MtJoy> so when itried to run minecraft it couldntt find Java and run so i would just get a black svreen
#465 [05:31] <MtJoy> i came here, someone helped me fix it and all was g (they used a java script of some sort)
#466 [05:31] <Thrae> adamkex: Actually that's a good question. The Java-based ones should. Personally I use Bukkit with Dynamap which I found very featureful.
#467 [05:31] <Thrae> MtJoy: Maybe you're thinking of JavaRa?
#468 [05:31] <adamkex> Thrae: i am using CanaryMod
#469 [05:31] <MtJoy> but that dissaperaed into the unknowen relm of my PC never to be seen again
#470 [05:32] <Thrae> adamkex: Ugh....why?
#471 [05:32] <MtJoy> so now i just want to completely remove minecraft and reinstall it on my hard drive where java is so i dont have to deal with this again
#472 [05:32] <adamkex> Thrae: find it easier to maintain
#473 [05:33] <MtJoy> i have no idea what happened to the script, like i was moving things around and i think i may have accidently del'ed it
#474 [05:33] <Thrae> What's easier about CanaryMod? AFAIK it's rather buggy and has a tiny number of plugins compared to Bukkit.
#475 [05:34] <adamkex> Thrae: plugins are compatible longer, bukkit plugins break all the time
#476 [05:34] <Thrae> MtJoy: What do you mean "install it on your hard drive where Java is"? Do you mean Java is not installed on C:, your system drive?
#477 [05:34] <adamkex> Thrae: too many permission systems
#478 [05:34] <Thrae> Not really....it depends entirely on the plugin.
#479 [05:34] <adamkex> Thrae: i've found canary to be a lot easier
#480 [05:35] <Thrae> Bukkit has used a built-in permissions system for a while.
#481 [05:35] <Thrae> *shrugs* Well, whatever floats your boat. What's the mapper?
#482 [05:36] <adamkex> Thrae: i am asking you if think open source mappers are compatible with solaris kernels? external ones such as c10t or mcmap
#483 [05:37] <MtJoy> SO
#484 [05:37] <MtJoy> CAN ANYONE HELP ME OR AM I A TOTAL IDIOT HAHA
#485 [05:37] <MtJoy> god damn caps lock
#486 [05:37] <Thrae> They are compatible but you have to compile them yourself and it's a PITA.
#487 [05:38] <Thrae> MtJoy: Let's start over. What error are you getting?
#488 [05:38] <MtJoy> no error
#489 [05:38] <MtJoy> just a black screen when i try run the game
#490 [05:38] <Thrae> OK.
#491 [05:38] <MtJoy> ok
#492 [05:38] <adamkex> Thrae: i am used to compiling stuff, portage and non portage programs
#493 [05:39] <adamkex> i don't like using binaries anyways..
#494 [05:39] <Thrae> MtJoy: Go to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp and tell me what version it displays, or if it display an error.
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#496 [05:40] <MtJoy> Recommended Version 6 Update 27
#497 [05:40] <MtJoy> is that what u wanted?
#498 [05:41] <Thrae> adamkex: Have you ever modified makefiles?
#499 [05:41] <Thrae> MtJoy: OK. No errors?
#500 [05:41] <MtJoy> nah, doesnt seem so
#501 [05:42] <Thrae> adamkex: Personally I wasn't able to get c10t to compile on SunOS, but it should be easier on GNU
#502 [05:42] <Thrae> (Usually they expect GNU, not necessarily a Linux kernel)
#503 [05:43] <adamkex> Thrae: no i haven't
#504 [05:44] <adamkex> Thrae: i can just install Nexenta in VirtualBox and try to compile it
#505 [05:46] <Thrae> adamkex: If you want the best of all worlds, there's always Xen -- http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+xen/2008_11_dom0 (applies to Solaris 11 Express too)
#506 [05:46] <Thrae> Then you can just ignore the kernel and OS and install whatever you want as a paravirtualized guest
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#508 [05:47] <MtJoy> so...haha
#509 [05:47] <Thrae> Really useful for stupid servers like Terraria, which doesn't work very well under WINE+Mono
#510 [05:47] <MtJoy> anything further?
#511 [05:47] <Thrae> ??> MtJoy win/dxdiag
#512 [05:47] <VoxelHead> MtJoy: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#513 [05:47] <VoxelHead> MtJoy: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#514 [05:49] <adamkex> Thrae: i see
#515 [05:50] <Thrae> Worse case scenario, it's too complicated and you just format over it and install your flavour of Linux :)
#516 [05:50] <MtJoy> ok so where do u want me to past the link? just in here?
#517 [05:50] <Thrae> MtJoy: Yeppers
#518 [05:50] <MtJoy> http://pastebin.com/S1rmZ63u
#519 [05:50] <MtJoy> THEN THERE IT IS KIND SIR
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#521 [05:52] <adamkex> Thrae: well, i am going to install it in virtualbox
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#524 [06:02] <MtJoy> ... ANYTHING?
#525 [06:04] <Thrae> MtJoy: You said it didn't work in the browser either, right?
#526 [06:07] <MtJoy> well i wasnt using it in the browser
#527 [06:07] <MtJoy> i want to install it
#528 [06:09] <Thrae> Try the Beta version in the browser and see if that works.
#529 [06:13] <MtJoy> ok well it opened, did the download and seems to be frozen now on the "finished loading" screen
#530 [06:13] <wolves> lolwat, wrong network :/
#531 [06:13] <Thrae> Hmmm. Is there a Java Applet icon in your system tray?
#532 [06:13] <MtJoy> definitely frozen
#533 [06:13] <MtJoy> yes there is
#534 [06:14] <Thrae> MtJoy: Open it up and see if there's any errors in the console.
#535 [06:16] <MtJoy> there doesnt seem to be any errors
#536 [06:16] <MtJoy> like i cant find any
#537 [06:19] <Thrae> MtJoy: Download and place this batch file in the same directory as Minecraft.exe, then run it -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/experimental/minecraft_nogpu.bat
#538 [06:20] <MtJoy> nope i still just get a black screen
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#540 [06:20] <MtJoy> man this is so frustrating, it was fixed here befor, but yeah i just dont know what happened
#541 [06:21] <MtJoy> sigh
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#543 [06:22] <Thrae> MtJoy: Hmm. That doesn't exclude the possibility of GPU or Java memory allocation problems. Just far less likely. OK.
#544 [06:22] <Thrae> ??> MtJoy win/javara
#545 [06:22] <VoxelHead> MtJoy: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#546 [06:22] <VoxelHead> MtJoy: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#547 [06:23] <Thrae> MtJoy: Use JavaRa to remove "Old Java Installations" as well as clean out "Useless JRE Files". Then go into Programs and Features and uninstall all versions of Java you find left there. Download both 32-bit and 64-bit from http://www.java.en.com/download/manual.jsp and install.
#548 [06:24] <MtJoy> yeah done that
#549 [06:25] <Thrae> MtJoy: You already did that exact procedure?
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#552 [06:25] <bigbad> hello?
#553 [06:26] <bigbad> ahh seems like the client works...
#554 [06:26] <bigbad> anyone here who knows what to do about issues with minecraft crashing under win 7 x 64?
#555 [06:28] <Thrae> bigbad: Is Java spitting out a crash report for you? If so, paste it to www.pastebin.com and share the link with us.
#556 [06:29] <bigbad> no report so far
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#558 [06:29] <blaphmat> ok
#559 [06:29] <Thrae> bigbad: So does Minecraft just close silently, or does Windows say Java has crashed?
#560 [06:29] <MtJoy> ok
#561 [06:29] <bigbad> on pressing f3, watching the performance graph,
#562 [06:29] <bigbad> there is one spike in the graph
#563 [06:29] <MtJoy> there was an error with re-installing the Java
#564 [06:30] <bigbad> causing a lag for about 6-10 secs
#565 [06:30] <Thrae> MtJoy: Well that's good news for me, but bad news for you. Go on.
#566 [06:30] <bigbad> by minimizing or tabbing out, i regain control of the game
#567 [06:30] <MtJoy> Error 1334. The file 'patchjre.exe' cannot be installed
#568 [06:30] <Thrae> MtJoy: Did you change the installation location?
#569 [06:31] <bigbad> me? or MT?
#570 [06:31] <MtJoy> because the file cannot be found in cabinet file 'Data1.cab'.
#571 [06:31] <MtJoy> no i did nothing
#572 [06:31] <MtJoy> just ran the JavaRa and Tried to reinstall Java like you said
#573 [06:32] <Thrae> MtJoy: Sounds like a corrupt download. Did you download from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp ?
#574 [06:33] <MtJoy> no, I will try again using that
#575 [06:33] <Thrae> Yeah. Try downloading and installing the 64-bit version from there first.
#576 [06:34] <bigbad> so... how about my frezing issue?
#577 [06:34] <bigbad> I already tried reinstalling java
#578 [06:35] <MtJoy> ok that worked and i only installed the x64 bit one
#579 [06:35] <bigbad> or exclusively running MC on either x64 or x32
#580 [06:35] <Thrae> bigbad: Are you just running Minecraft.exe to start it? What's your total RAM and how much do you have free right now?
#581 [06:35] <MtJoy> should i also install x42bit?
#582 [06:35] <Thrae> MtJoy: OK. Try running Minecraft again.
#583 [06:35] <bigbad> i have 6 gig
#584 [06:35] <bigbad> how do i give my javaw.exe more ram?
#585 [06:36] <Thrae> bigbad: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat , place that in the same folder as Minecraft.exe and run the batch file.
#586 [06:36] <bigbad> okay hold on
#587 [06:36] <Thrae> bigbad: That will start you off at 1GB and go up to 2GB, which should also be enough for any texture pack.
#588 [06:37] <bigbad> sounds good
#589 [06:38] <MtJoy> noe still black screen
#590 [06:39] <MtJoy> *nope
#591 [06:41] <bigbad> okay so far, it starts. only had to change the path in the batch for jre7. is there a way to start the game i this mode without using the batch?
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#593 [06:43] <Thrae> bigbad: Oh, you're using Java 7? That's probably why you had the crash -- read the topic. Minecraft has known problems with Java 7. Sun hasn't even started pushing it out beyond development purposes.
#594 [06:43] <bigbad> hold on
#595 [06:43] <Thrae> Oracle-Sun
#596 [06:43] <bigbad> i installed java 7 because of my crashes with jre6
#597 [06:44] <Thrae> Well, Java 7 is *known* to be less stable with Minecraft, so I'd go back to Java 6 with the batch file (you don't need to uninstall Java 7).
#598 [06:44] <Thrae> Java 6 Update 27 is what we always recommend.
#599 [06:45] <bigbad> if i experience any more crashes, i will try using jre 6 again, but so far i think im happy with the batch file :-) there is no other way than this batch to assign more ram to MC is there?
#600 [06:47] <MtJoy> im ready to give up
#601 [06:47] <MtJoy> try again another day
#602 [06:48] <bigbad> well, thanks a lot anyway. this will surely make mc run better than before, Thrae ^^
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#604 [06:49] <Thrae> MtJoy: Go ahead and grab the latest drivers from www.nvidia.com just to be sure -- it could still be some weird OpenGL issue.
#605 [06:50] <MtJoy> yeah
#606 [06:50] <MtJoy> i will do that
#607 [06:51] <MtJoy> probz go to bed now though, but thanx for your help, sure i will be back to try fix it some other time
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#610 [07:03] <Houraisan_Kaguya> hiii
#611 [07:03] <Houraisan_Kaguya> Kaioshi referred me to you gusy
#612 [07:03] <Houraisan_Kaguya> guys*
#613 [07:04] <Thrae> Yes?
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#617 [07:08] <DanX951> Hello?
#618 [07:08] <Lunick> ^This guy needs help guys
#619 [07:09] <DanX951> My minecraft wont login
#620 [07:09] <DanX951> it isnt a computer problem
#621 [07:09] <DanX951> it isnt a payment problem
#622 [07:09] <DanX951> it isnt a java problem
#623 [07:09] <DanX951> I've had minecraft since 1.7.2
#624 [07:10] <DanX951> but since 1.8 came out its stopped working
#625 [07:10] <DanX951> and said, login failed
#626 [07:11] <DanX951> so I play offline but its realy laggy and laggs out leaving an error on my desktop
#627 [07:11] <Thrae> DanX951: You're using the old launcher. Download the newest launcher --
#628 [07:11] <Thrae> !client
#629 [07:12] <DanX951> YEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
#630 [07:12] <Lunick> Are you kiddign me
#631 [07:13] <Lunick> That was your problem?
#632 [07:13] <DanX951> thank you thnk you
#633 [07:13] <DanX951> YES"!!!!!!
#634 [07:13] <Lunick> I spent half an hour with this guy -.-
#635 [07:13] <DanX951> my mods too
#636 [07:13] <DanX951> and my skin, how i missed IT!
#637 [07:14] <DanX951> You my man are a legend
#638 [07:14] <DanX951> i'm serious
#639 [07:14] <DanX951> And I can play online!!!!"!
#640 [07:14] <DanX951> and single player isnt laggy
#641 [07:14] <DanX951> WOO!!!
#642 [07:14] <DanX951> Thanks lunik for getting me this far
#643 [07:15] <DanX951> and showing me #minecrafthelp
#644 [07:15] <DanX951> Gonna go play minecraft!
#645 [07:15] <DanX951> Ty!
#646 [07:15] <Thrae> Yeah, Minecraft now requires SSL encryption for login, which the old launcher doesn't have.
#647 [07:15] <Lunick> Oh ok
#648 [07:16] * Silent_Samurai_ wtf
#648 [07:16] <Lunick> I'll remember that incase someone comes into our channel and asks again
#649 [07:16] <Thrae> Not sure why it would cause lag though....that sounds more like a coincidence, or possibly a change in arguments calling java.
#650 [07:16] <Lunick> Apparently he couldnt run the game from the website
#651 [07:17] <Thrae> Hmmm, odd.
#652 [07:17] <Lunick> I wish the users would find this chat and not ours
#653 [07:18] <Thrae> Which....#mcchatter?
#654 [07:18] <Lunick> #wom
#655 [07:18] <Lunick> You put Minecraft CHat into google and its the third or forth option
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#657 [07:18] <Thrae> Yep, you're right
#658 [07:20] <Lunick> Anyway thanks, not sure if we will see each other again :P
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#667 [07:35] <Burlingk> Quick question. How does MineCraft decide if you are inside or outside. I spent many minutes creating a house with dirt blocks, made sure it was lit up with torches, and then when I tried to sleep I got attacked.
#668 [07:36] <lemon-rev> Burlingk dude, how many doors have you got on your house
#669 [07:36] <Burlingk> lemon-rev: 1 Door. It was closed.
#670 [07:36] <lemon-rev> was the bed near the wall
#671 [07:37] <Burlingk> Yes it was. The head of the bed was next to the wall. Actually built the wall after the bed. ^^
#672 [07:37] <lemon-rev> try putting bed central not near wall at all, cant say if it will work but it is an old bug that has come back
#673 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> Has never been fixed
#674 [07:38] <lemon-rev> it was there for a patch
#675 [07:38] <lemon-rev> but yea came stright back
#676 [07:38] <Burlingk> I see. :-) Thanks.
#677 [07:39] <Burlingk> O.o The new structures are kinda cool. :-)
#678 [07:39] <lemon-rev> yea i love the casims my self
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#680 [07:44] <Burlingk> I wish that flowers would spread. :P
#681 [07:44] <SinZ> GreyVulpine, why why why =(
#682 [07:45] <SinZ> Will that bug also work if the bed is in the 2nd or 3rd floor and agenst the wall
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#685 [07:48] <mariettagecko> Morning, everyone.
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#688 [07:57] <sluggo> how do you save something you build? help, anyone? thanks.
#689 [07:58] <dylanbarberdude> esc, save and quit
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#691 [07:58] <dylanbarberdude> thats the keys
#692 [07:59] <mib_ltcjaa> "/nick raptor300"
#693 [07:59] <mariettagecko> Sluggo: As long as you are playing the full version, you should be able to save just by quitting out of the game.
#694 [07:59] <mib_ltcjaa> (sory, I'm really lost here)
#695 [08:00] <mariettagecko> Try again without the quotes
#696 [08:00] <mib_ltcjaa> I was playing on line through Internet explorer
#697 [08:00] <raptor300> thanks
#698 [08:00] <mariettagecko> There you go.
#699 [08:00] <mariettagecko> So, you were playing through IE. Was there a problem?
#700 [08:01] <raptor300> yes, I lost something I was building for I had to turn the computer off. How do we save something to continue later? thanks.
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#702 [08:02] <mariettagecko> is that the nick you registered with?
#703 [08:03] <mariettagecko> !paid raptor300
#704 [08:03] <mariettagecko> ok, were you playing Beta or classic?
#705 [08:03] <dylanbarberdude> i cant connect to my fav classic server it crashes ie and firefox but single player and ALL other servers work fine
#706 [08:04] <dylanbarberdude> !paid Notch
#707 [08:04] * AuBot kicked dylanbarberdude from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ylanbarberdude :Notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#708 [08:04] <mariettagecko> Really?
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#710 [08:05] <dylanbarberdude> so any help?
#711 [08:05] <mariettagecko> Really?
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#713 [08:05] <mariettagecko> Ok, you said that it crashes IE and Firefox. Do they give any particular error messages? What OS are you on? Which versions of IE and Firefox are we talking about?
#714 [08:05] <Don0407> Can i get some help?
#715 [08:05] <dylanbarberdude> do not say !paid Notch AuBot will kick you
#716 [08:06] <mariettagecko> ??> help
#717 [08:06] <dylanbarberdude> no it jut crashes
#718 [08:06] <mariettagecko> ??> Don0407 help
#719 [08:06] <VoxelHead> Don0407: (help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#720 [08:06] <VoxelHead> Don0407: (help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#721 [08:06] <mariettagecko> Ok, not quite what I thought it was going to say.
#722 [08:07] <mariettagecko> Right, Don, you can get help. We need to know what the problem is in order to proceed, however.
#723 [08:07] <Don0407> ??> help
#724 [08:07] <mariettagecko> dylanbarberdude: ok, and the rest of my questions?
#725 [08:08] <Don0407> Waait
#726 [08:08] <Don0407> how'd you know my problem?
#727 [08:08] <Don0407> Anyways
#728 [08:08] <Don0407> I try'd to order MC and every time i try'd
#729 [08:08] <mariettagecko> Don0407: that's part of the problem. I don't know your problem. How can we help?
#730 [08:08] <dylanbarberdude> no error msgs
#731 [08:08] <Don0407> Ok the problem is with an order
#732 [08:09] <Don0407> everytime i try'd to order MC it gave me an error
#733 [08:09] <Don0407> and stop me
#734 [08:09] <Don0407> now i checked my bank account and found out
#735 [08:10] <Don0407> Money Bookers took the cash anyways
#736 [08:10] <Don0407> actually 3 payments
#737 [08:10] <mariettagecko> dylanbarberdude: What OS are you on? What versions of IE and Firefox are you using? When you say that the browsers crash, can you be more specific about what they do? Do they close out on their own?
#738 [08:10] <Don0407> so is there a way i can get a refund?
#739 [08:10] <mariettagecko> Don0407: In that case, I would recommend an email to Mojang and that you contact your bank to see about disputing the charges.
#740 [08:10] <Thrae> Don0407: Contact payment@mojang.com with the payment times & dates and an explanation of your situation.
#741 [08:11] <Don0407> Ty
#742 [08:11] <mariettagecko> Yeah, what Thrae said.
#743 [08:11] <Thrae> Don0407: Payment times & dates, account it was sent from, email address associated, etc.
#744 [08:11] <Thrae> !check mc.matts-hosting.com:25566
#745 [08:12] <mariettagecko> !check crazyland.homelinux.net
#746 [08:12] <mariettagecko> Cool.
#747 [08:12] <dylanbarberdude> mariettagecko, windows vista home premium 32-bit on a 64-bit dual core cpu latest stable ie and firefox . they stop responding the they respond the minecraft classic window is white then they close by themselves
#748 [08:13] <mariettagecko> ok.
#749 [08:13] <Dune> Hey guys, is this channel only for technical issues? Or does it include help in-game as well?
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#751 [08:13] <mariettagecko> dylanbarberdude: Can you tell me what version of Java you are running?
#752 [08:14] <mariettagecko> Dune: yes.
#753 [08:14] <dylanbarberdude> java 6 26
#754 [08:14] <mariettagecko> dylanbarberdude: you said this happens only with the one server? Not all of them?
#755 [08:14] <dylanbarberdude> yes
#756 [08:15] <dylanbarberdude> its worked before
#757 [08:15] <mariettagecko> When did it stop?
#758 [08:15] <mariettagecko> That is to say, what changed when it stopped working?
#759 [08:15] <raptor300> well, thanks anyway, and goodbye
#760 [08:15] <mariettagecko> other than the obvious of "it stopped working"
#761 [08:16] <Dune> Cool, does anyone know whether there is a solution to the boat/minecart glitch where it moves into the block beside it?
#762 [08:17] <mariettagecko> Dune: I regret that I'm not familiar with that particular glitch.
#763 [08:18] <dylanbarberdude> mariettagecko, it just stopped out of blue
#764 [08:18] <mariettagecko> dylanbarberdude: and you didn't update anything before the problem began?
#765 [08:19] <dylanbarberdude> mariettagecko, no
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#767 [08:20] <FoolofWisdom> Don't know if this was the right room, but i need help >.>
#768 [08:20] <Thrae> This is the right channel for most forms of help with Minecraft, aside from mods and modded servers.
#769 [08:20] <FoolofWisdom> hmm, alright.
#770 [08:21] <mariettagecko> dylanbarberdude: Unfortunately, I'm not entirely sure what to say. It may be a good idea to reinstall java or possibly to do the following:
#771 [08:21] <mariettagecko> ??> dylanbarberdude win/reinst/classic
#772 [08:21] <VoxelHead> dylanbarberdude: (win/reinst/classic) Start -> Run -> %temp%/www.minecraft.net; then delete everything you see.
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#774 [08:22] <FoolofWisdom> Well, my problem is i can log into the main website with my login, but not the client. All i get is " Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#775 [08:22] <dylanbarberdude> ok thx
#776 [08:22] <Thrae> !client
#777 [08:22] <dylanbarberdude> at home or at school
#778 [08:22] <Thrae> FoolofWisdom: Download the latest launcher ^^^^^
#779 [08:22] <FoolofWisdom> at home
#780 [08:22] <FoolofWisdom> alright ill try that.
#781 [08:23] <Thrae> FoolofWisdom: If you had Minecraft before 1.8 you may have the old launcher still.
#782 [08:23] <FoolofWisdom> alright, thanks, ill try that now.
#783 [08:23] <FoolofWisdom> Such a simple problem XD, brb
#784 [08:23] <UberGinge> Hi guys, I have an issue with my 1.8.1 server, I want it to run creative mode, I've change the gamemode = 1, but it still shows up as survival, any ideas?
#785 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> Gamemode is per player, not the whole server
#786 [08:24] <dylanbarberdude> you have to start a new map
#787 [08:24] <UberGinge> so you can't set it to a whole server, but a player by player basis?
#788 [08:24] <Thrae> UberGinge: Do you mean you changed it for a single player using the server command, or used a tool to internally change the gametype variable?
#789 [08:25] <UberGinge> I opened the server.properties files and changed the line from gamemode=0 to gamemode=1
#790 [08:25] <FoolofWisdom> Thank you thrae, you were right. It was just my client XD
#791 [08:25] <UberGinge> but all users that connect are still in survival
#792 [08:25] <Thrae> UberGinge: Yeah. I believe that's only honoured on first generation of the map, if at all.
#793 [08:26] <UberGinge> well it works if I set the mode on a per player basis, so will I just have to do that/
#794 [08:26] <Thrae> UberGinge: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=minecraft+1.8+change+survival+creative&aq=f
#795 [08:26] <Thrae> UberGinge: There's a bunch of tutorials out there for using different tools to change the mode on your map....just make sure you backup your world first!
#796 [08:27] <mariettagecko> See, I prefer the survival mode
#797 [08:27] <UberGinge> I see, so if I download my map and change it and reup, that should do the trick?
#798 [08:28] <mariettagecko> but that's just me.
#799 [08:28] <UberGinge> mariettagecko: I agree, but the server I host can only host one instance of MC per time
#800 [08:28] <UberGinge> some of my users enjoy just building, some want surviving
#801 [08:28] <mariettagecko> UberGinge: I know that feeling.
#802 [08:28] <UberGinge> the main map (the one I have issues with) want to just build, as that's what it was for
#803 [08:28] <mariettagecko> UberGinge: the same is true for my server
#804 [08:28] <Thrae> UberGinge: Yes, but I'm not entirely sure of the caveats, so backup your world first.
#805 [08:29] <UberGinge> Thrae: I will do just that, thanks
#806 [08:29] <FoolofWisdom> Thrae: I think you need a medal, your just so epic xD
#807 [08:30] * GreyVulpine gives Thrae a foil-covered chocolate medal.
#807 [08:30] <FoolofWisdom> Woot!
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#809 [08:31] <Thrae> FoolofWisdom: NP. It's a common problem :)
#810 [08:31] <Rob> hi there
#811 [08:31] <FoolofWisdom> Another question, whats the best program for a making a server? Bukkit?
#812 [08:31] <Guest5357> is there somebody?
#813 [08:31] <Guest5357> i have a question,,
#814 [08:32] <GreyVulpine> Bukkit's probably the most popular modded server right now
#815 [08:32] <Thrae> FoolofWisdom: That's relative. The most compatible server is "vanilla", the one available off the minecraft.net website. I think Bukkit has the best plugins and support, but some may disagree with me.
#816 [08:33] <mariettagecko> ??> Guest5357 ask
#817 [08:33] <VoxelHead> Guest5357: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#818 [08:33] <VoxelHead> Guest5357: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#819 [08:33] <Guest5357> when i start minecraft, and whant to logg in there come's a ''can't connect to minecraft.net''
#820 [08:33] <Guest5357> someone with a fix?
#821 [08:33] <Thrae> It's important to note that Bukkit doesn't yet have a recommended build for 1.8.x, leaving you with developer snapshots
#822 [08:33] <FoolofWisdom> !client
#823 [08:33] <FoolofWisdom> there you go guest, ^^
#824 [08:33] <FoolofWisdom> same problem i had
#825 [08:34] <Guest5357> Foolof
#826 [08:34] <Guest5357> in 1.8 ??
#827 [08:34] <FoolofWisdom> yes
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#829 [08:34] <Guest5357> i've instal it 3/4 day's ago,
#830 [08:34] <Guest5357> how you fix it? :o
#831 [08:34] <Guest5357> i re-instal java,
#832 [08:34] <Guest5357> ans re-instal minecraft,
#833 [08:34] <Guest5357> don't help
#834 [08:34] <FoolofWisdom> are you sure your not using the old client?
#835 [08:34] <Thrae> Guest5357: Did you re-download the launcher off the minecraft.net website? Not just reinstalling through the launcher?
#836 [08:34] <mariettagecko> Guest5357: what OS are you running? Have you got a firewall between you and the Internet? Is this your home computer, or something else?
#837 [08:35] <Guest5357> OS - windos 7 ??
#838 [08:35] <Guest5357> and i have google crome,
#839 [08:35] <Guest5357> and yes, it's mine PC
#840 [08:35] <person> Hello, I just tried to buy a minecraft gift code with a visa card, it said transaction failed, on second try it said the card would be disabled for 24 hours, this is kind of bad.
#841 [08:35] <Guest5357> someone with teamviewer who can get my PC for a sec
#842 [08:35] <Guest5357> and fix it.
#843 [08:36] <Thrae> Guest5357: People generally don't do that until we've exhausted the easy fixes first. Have you tried the Beta browser version?
#844 [08:36] <Thrae> Guest5357: http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#845 [08:36] <Guest5357> Tes i do.
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#847 [08:36] <mariettagecko> Are you trying to play using the client or the browser version?
#848 [08:37] <Guest5357> Marrietta
#849 [08:37] <Guest5357> java have a error when i want to do that..
#850 [08:37] <Guest5357> OMFGOMFG
#851 [08:37] <Guest5357> WHAIT
#852 [08:37] <Guest5357> MAYBE
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#854 [08:37] <mariettagecko> Guest5357: java gives an error? what is the error?
#855 [08:37] <Guest5357> trea give me a link
#856 [08:37] <Guest5357> i download it
#857 [08:37] <Kaioshi> person: best thing you can do is call your bank
#858 [08:37] <Guest5357> and now i see the news
#859 [08:37] <Guest5357> wait a sec, maybe he do it now
#860 [08:38] <Guest5357> YESD
#861 [08:38] <Guest5357> YES
#862 [08:38] <Guest5357> OMGOMG
#863 [08:38] <FoolofWisdom> told you it was just the client ^^
#864 [08:38] <FoolofWisdom> XD
#865 [08:38] <Sinistrahd> sigh
#866 [08:38] <Guest5357> ty
#867 [08:38] <Guest5357> YES
#868 [08:38] <Guest5357> tanks 4 help everybody.
#869 [08:39] <Thrae> Sure. NP.
#870 [08:39] <person> Kaioshi: I have moved to another country so this is kind of a problematic thing to do. I thought everything was set up correctly for this kind of use, it has worked fine for steam etc so far since the move
#871 [08:39] <Sinistrahd> good job, "Trea" ;P
#872 [08:39] <Guest5357> byebye and i love you all <3
#873 [08:39] <mariettagecko> You're welcome, Guest5357
#874 [08:41] <Thrae> person: It seems the fraud detection kicked-in due to an international purchase. It happens sometimes. I know I have to explicitly verify international purchases online through PayPal.
#875 [08:41] <mariettagecko> I have to do the same for my bank.
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#877 [08:42] <Thrae> Generally if you verify it enough, they'll unlock it for those types of transactions. You just need to talk to them and verify you're the authorized user.
#878 [08:43] <person> I bought my own copy from america with no problems, why does it do this when I try to buy a gift code from germany?
#879 [08:44] <adamkex> Thrae: hey, what do you think is better, 3x2gb or 2x4gb?
#880 [08:44] <adamkex> server
#881 [08:44] <mariettagecko> ummm...
#882 [08:44] <mariettagecko> adamkex: let's see... 3x2=6... 2x8=8.
#883 [08:45] <mariettagecko> adamkex: you do the math and tell me.
#884 [08:45] <FoolofWisdom> the more the better, really.
#885 [08:45] <adamkex> mariettagecko: well, what is better for you, 2x2gb or 1x4gb? as far as i have understood the ram is faster if you have more hardware.
#886 [08:46] <GreyVulpine> All depends on the RAM
#887 [08:46] <Thrae> adamkex: Do you mean in all slots or just 2?
#888 [08:46] <adamkex> Thrae: three slots or two slots
#889 [08:46] <GreyVulpine> Not all RAM is created equal. You have different frequencies, and different timings
#890 [08:46] <mariettagecko> adamkex: I can possibly see 2x2gb > 1x4gb, but it mainly depends on the speed of the ram and other specs of the ram itself.
#891 [08:46] <mariettagecko> Just the size is not enough information to determine which is better.
#892 [08:47] <FoolofWisdom> in theory, more would split the stress on one, but seeing as the one would be more, id say it really wouldn't make to much of a differnce, and yeah, gecko is right there too
#893 [08:47] <mariettagecko> and more ram is always better than less ram.
#894 [08:47] <mariettagecko> Morning GreyVulpine
#895 [08:47] * GreyVulpine waves
#895 [08:47] <Thrae> adamkex: Well, you don't ever want to have 3 as then you're not running parallel. You *always* want pairs, even with Triple-Channel motherboards.
#896 [08:48] <adamkex> mariettagecko: the rams are the same
#897 [08:48] <adamkex> Thrae: so 4x2gb is fine?
#898 [08:48] <Thrae> adamkex: If you have a Dual-Channel motherboard then using 3 would break the benefit you get from Dual-Channel, reducing performance.
#899 [08:48] <adamkex> double parallel
#900 [08:48] <Thrae> Yep, 4x2GB is fine
#901 [08:48] <mariettagecko> adamkex: assuming that their timings and speeds are the same, go with more ram instead of less ram.
#902 [08:48] <Thrae> Might be cheaper too
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#904 [08:49] <Thrae> adamkex: Buy them in kits so you get the same model and probably cheaper price.
#905 [08:49] <adamkex> mariettagecko: it's the same brand, same ram, just different size and amount
#906 [08:49] <mariettagecko> Speaking of ram, I don't suppose anyone has any spare PC2100 ECC ram lying around that they don't need...
#907 [08:49] <mariettagecko> Specifically 1 GB sticks...
#908 [08:50] <Thrae> PC2100 ECC? Haha. I know a store that might have one or two sticks, but not for free =/
#909 [08:50] <mariettagecko> Yeah, I know it.
#910 [08:50] <adamkex> Thrae: is thera a difference between 4x2gb and 2x4gb in performance, assuming all parts are identical
#911 [08:50] <mariettagecko> Frys doesn't have the stuff.
#912 [08:50] <mariettagecko> I've tried.
#913 [08:50] <person> So can anyone help me with my problem?
#914 [08:51] <mariettagecko> person: what is the problem? the billing issue?
#915 [08:51] <Thrae> adamkex: For most purposes, especially yours, no.
#916 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> adamkex - There is, if you have all the slots filled
#917 [08:52] <person> The problem is that I am not able to buy a gift code. Also I don't know why.
#918 [08:52] <adamkex> GreyVulpine: there are 4 slots
#919 [08:52] <GreyVulpine> There's a noticable difference between having 2x4gb vs 4x2gb in a consumer grade mobo
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#921 [08:53] <mariettagecko> person: If I remember correctly, the problem is that your bank denied the charge on the grounds that it was an international charge, yes?
#922 [08:54] <FoolofWisdom> on a side-note... just randomly generated an epic map XD
#923 [08:54] <Wombatunder> does a mobfarm/grinder put a lot of strain on a server?
#924 [08:54] <adamkex> GreyVulpine: ok?
#925 [08:54] <GreyVulpine> When you do 4x anything on a dual channel motherboard, you're essentially slowing down the timing of the RAM, because of the overhead of more sticks of RAM.
#926 [08:54] <adamkex> ok
#927 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> If you want to read up further on it, look at RAM command rate, 1T vs 2T timing
#928 [08:55] <person> It never mentioned anything about international charges, that was you people. It just said that the transaction failed and that I should return to merchant for more instructions, then when I continued it said transaction completed
#929 [08:56] <adamkex> GreyVulpine: okay
#930 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> The first page will always be right. The second page will return transaction completed/successful, even if it was actually unsuccessful
#931 [08:56] <person> I did not get a code, and on the second try it said my card would be disabled for 24 hours
#932 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> Then it's a problem with your transaction, on your end. Your card is declining the transaction, most likely, because of the international purchase thing.
#933 [08:57] <person> and that the restriction can not be manually lifted by anyone
#934 [08:57] <person> But why? I was able to purchase my own copy without any problems.
#935 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to talk to your card's customer service to get it straightened out
#936 [08:58] <person> They are a good couple of time zones away, so that is not an immediate option
#937 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to talk to them to find out. We can tell you the most common cause is because of the limitation on international purchases, to protect the user from having somebody else use it for overseas fraud.
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#939 [08:59] <Wombatunder> does a mobfarm/grinder put a lot of strain on a server?
#940 [08:59] <person> I also tried using a mastercard, but that just led me to a very fishy looking site asking me to generate a password.
#941 [09:00] <person> Is it not possible to buy this game?
#942 [09:00] <Keltinray> person, tried paypal?
#943 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> Over 3 million people have purchased this game.
#944 [09:00] * mib_9a2w1a [mib_9a2w1a@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#945 [09:00] <person> GreyVulpine: Why thank you for that tidbit of information.
#946 [09:01] <person> Keltinray: I do not have a paypal
#947 [09:01] <mib_9a2w1a> i bought minecraft so usually it should install 1.8 automaticly. but it has not happend yet
#948 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> You do not need to make a paypal account. You can use paypal to pay for it, where paypal will act as an intermediary for your credit card transaction
#949 [09:02] <person> mib_9a2w1a: The 1.8 update has to be done manually, at least it had to for me
#950 [09:02] <GreyVulpine> And my remark about 3 million people, was only to demonstrate that it certainly is possible to purchase minecraft
#951 [09:02] <Keltinray> person, try choosing paypal as your method of payment anyways
#952 [09:02] <mib_9a2w1a> hmm yea well i actually bought the whole thing and its not updated
#953 [09:02] <Keltinray> and then select the option for people who don't have paypal-accounts
#954 [09:02] <Burlingk> When I logged in the other day it asked me if I wanted to update ^^
#955 [09:02] <person> GreyVulpine: As mentioned before, I am one of these 3 million, but that does not enable me to get a gift code for my friend
#956 [09:03] <mib_9a2w1a> i dont have that update option
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#958 [09:03] <mib_9a2w1a> so can anyone help me? please
#959 [09:04] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Hmm, I see. I didn't know there could be a large enough difference in speed for 1T vs 2T to get past 10% increase in peak rate. Seems like people's tests report between 2% to 5% actual difference, with 12% to 25% synthetic difference.
#960 [09:04] <Thrae> mib_9a2w1a: You don't have an "Options" button?
#961 [09:04] <mib_9a2w1a> what do you mean?
#962 [09:04] <Burlingk> mib_9a2w1a: Which OS are you using?
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#964 [09:04] <FoolofWisdom> the new client should have an option button
#965 [09:04] <Thrae> mib_9a2w1a: In the launcher. And how long ago did you purchase Minecraft?
#966 [09:05] <mib_9a2w1a> . okay im not the computer wizz so i dont really know what an OS is and i purchased it quite a while ago
#967 [09:05] <Thrae> mib_9a2w1a: Like, over a few weeks ago?
#968 [09:05] <Burlingk> mib_9a2w1a: Are you using Windows, Linux, Mac? That is what I mean by OS, :-
#969 [09:05] <Burlingk> ):-)
#970 [09:05] <mib_9a2w1a> windows and yes months ago
#971 [09:05] <Thrae> !client
#972 [09:06] <FoolofWisdom> -summons up the new client-
#973 [09:06] <FoolofWisdom> damn
#974 [09:06] <FoolofWisdom> XD
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#976 [09:06] <Thrae> mib_9a2w1a: Download the client for Windows. ^^^^^^
#977 [09:06] <Thrae> mib_9a2w1a: You're using an outdated client that can no longer connect.
#978 [09:06] <mib_9a2w1a> oh right so what can i do. thankyou btw
#979 [09:06] <Thrae> mib_9a2w1a: http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#980 [09:06] <mib_9a2w1a> thankyou so much
#981 [09:06] <Burlingk> :)
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#983 [09:07] <mib_9a2w1a> where shall i save it
#984 [09:07] <Burlingk> mib_9a2w1a: Save it anywhere. When you run it, it will set up the new MineCraft for you. :)
#985 [09:07] <bletch> Hi have paid for and tried to download this game for my son. I cannot get it to run on either of our computers. where do i start to find a fix. Am running windows 7 on one pc and
#986 [09:07] <Burlingk> bletch: What kind of error do you get?
#987 [09:07] <dylanbarberdude> Why do drops cause lag?
#988 [09:08] <Thrae> dylanbarberdude: Shouldn't. Single or MP?
#989 [09:08] <mib_9a2w1a> okay thankyou c:
#990 [09:08] <Burlingk> mib_9a2w1a: Also, once you install this new version, future updates will give you a push button and ask you to update. :)
#991 [09:08] <mib_9a2w1a> OMG thankyou so much xxxxxxxxxxxxx
#992 [09:08] <dylanbarberdude> Thrae,sp
#993 [09:09] <mib_9a2w1a> all of you who helped thankyou. its hard to find helpfull people on the internet
#994 [09:09] <Burlingk> :)
#995 [09:09] <Burlingk> I am glad we could help.
#996 [09:09] <Burlingk> bletch: What kind of error do you get?
#997 [09:09] <mib_9a2w1a> bye bye
#998 [09:09] <mib_9a2w1a> :)
#999 [09:11] <dylanbarberdude> Thrae, and i mean used timber mod with a mod that makes 1 log drop 100. i used an axe and BOOM! 1000's of log drops
#1000 [09:12] <Burlingk> dylanbarberdude: Every object has to be tracked in memory, and if you make a lot of objects all at once, it has to create them all. ^_^ The mod probably confuses the system.
#1001 [09:12] <Burlingk> bletch: Are you still there?
#1002 [09:12] <Burlingk> bah
#1003 [09:12] <Burlingk> O.o I wish that when people asked for help they would actually at least respond to troubleshooting questions. ^^;
#1004 [09:13] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#1005 [09:14] <Burlingk> ^^;
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#1007 [09:14] <Arkan11> i want to ask you something
#1008 [09:14] <Arkan11> my computer restarts when i open the game
#1009 [09:14] <dylanbarberdude> ?
#1010 [09:15] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#1011 [09:15] <Arkan11> why?
#1012 [09:15] <FoolofWisdom> Are you sure it is restarting and not yoru graphics card is not crashing and your screen is going black?
#1013 [09:15] <Arkan11> no it's restarting
#1014 [09:15] <Arkan11> but i played minecraft about a year ago
#1015 [09:15] <dylanbarberdude> how oldis it
#1016 [09:16] <Arkan11> i don't remeber
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#1018 [09:17] <Thrae> Arkan11: OK, this is Windows?
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#1020 [09:17] <Arkan11> yes
#1021 [09:18] <Thrae> Arkan11: OK, click on Start, then right-click on Computer and go to Properties. Tell me when you have the screen up.
#1022 [09:18] <Arkan11> i have it
#1023 [09:19] <Thrae> Arkan11: Click on "Advanced System Settings". On the window that appears, click on "Settings" under "Startup and Recovery".
#1024 [09:20] <Thrae> Arkan11: Under "System Failure" in the window that appears, uncheck "Automatically restart".
#1025 [09:21] * dylanbarberdude thinks Thrae is going to make Arkan11's computer crap itself
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#1026 [09:23] <Thrae> dylanbarberdude: It's a very common procedure. It just allows you to read the BSOD.
#1027 [09:23] <dylanbarberdude> ?
#1028 [09:23] <dylanbarberdude> BSOD?
#1029 [09:24] <Thrae> Blue Screen of Death. Never gotten one?
#1030 [09:24] <dylanbarberdude> o that
#1031 [09:24] <dylanbarberdude> that shited my mums laptop
#1032 [09:24] <Lukathewarrior> Hi guys - old person here ..... tyring to get my Minecraft site working. I purchased this game for my son. I have tried to download it 17 times. It keeps saying "Failed to launch Fatal Error (2) null" I have tried the forums to try to get this to work. no one can help. I have a Mac - brand new as of this week. All new software. Downloaded Java, and anything
#1033 [09:25] <Thrae> dylanbarberdude: Disabling "Automatic Restart" is absolutely harmless. All it does is stop it from automatically restarting on a BSOD, so you can actually read the BSOD.
#1034 [09:25] <Lukathewarrior> sorry to interupt - can you guys help out an oldie??
#1035 [09:25] <dylanbarberdude> yeah
#1036 [09:26] <Thrae> Lukathewarrior: Are you having problems with the Minecraft launcher/client, or the Minecraft server?
#1037 [09:27] <Lukathewarrior> sorry not sure which one..... I paid for it. When it asks for me to download it it I click on it and it says Failed to launch .... blah blah blah
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#1039 [09:28] <Thrae> Lukathewarrior: OK, what's your Minecraft username?
#1040 [09:28] <Lukathewarrior> Lukathewarrior
#1041 [09:28] <Thrae> !paid Lukathewarrior
#1042 [09:29] <Lukathewarrior> yep
#1043 [09:29] <Thrae> !client
#1044 [09:29] <dylanbarberdude> bate me to it
#1045 [09:29] <Thrae> Lukathewarrior: Did you download this -- http://Minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip
#1046 [09:29] <Lukathewarrior> It is a Mac ..... for the OSX one right?
#1047 [09:30] <Thrae> Lukathewarrior: Yes.
#1048 [09:30] <Lukathewarrior> Ok - just did that and it still says the same Failed to launch etc this is what i have been doing the whole time.
#1049 [09:31] <Thrae> ??> Lukathewarrior mac/permissions
#1050 [09:31] <VoxelHead> Lukathewarrior: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1051 [09:31] <VoxelHead> Lukathewarrior: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
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#1053 [09:32] <Thrae> Lukathewarrior: Try following the instructions VoxelHead just sent you.
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#1055 [09:32] <Lukathewarrior> thanks guys I will give that a go and appreciate your help - contiune on your way. cheers from an oldie
#1056 [09:36] <Lukathewarrior> Nup - no such directory according to the Terminal
#1057 [09:37] <Thrae> Hmmm
#1058 [09:37] <FoolofWisdom> hmmmmm indeed
#1059 [09:38] <Lukathewarrior> It is a pain in the ..... as i got it to work on a mates HP laptop
#1060 [09:38] <Lukathewarrior> HAs to be the Mac - but it is brand new - very spunky but not doing what i thought it would!
#1061 [09:39] <Thrae> Lukathewarrior: Where is your Minecraft folder right now?
#1062 [09:40] <Thrae> Lukathewarrior: You want to move the Minecraft folder from where ever you unpacked it to the /Applications folder.
#1063 [09:42] <dylanbarberdude> gtg
#1064 [09:42] <Lukathewarrior> Haven't even been able to download it. It won't let me. when I go onto the site and them go to download it it then goes into the download box but when I click on it and it comes up with the screen to ask me to log in and then it says failed to launch
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#1066 [09:43] <Thrae> Lukathewarrior: Put this in your address bar and it should download -- http://Minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip
#1067 [09:43] <Thrae> Lukathewarrior: After you've downloaded that, you can open that file and it should open the Archive Utility.
#1068 [09:44] <Thrae> Let me know when you have the Archive Utility open.
#1069 [09:45] <Lukathewarrior> nup still the same still won't download properly
#1070 [09:45] <Thrae> OK, open Terminal.
#1071 [09:46] <Lukathewarrior> yep done
#1072 [09:46] <Thrae> Type in "cd /Applications".
#1073 [09:47] <Lukathewarrior> yep done
#1074 [09:47] <Thrae> Type in "wget http://Minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip" and tell me when it finishes downloading.
#1075 [09:48] <Lukathewarrior> no such file or directory it says
#1076 [09:49] <Thrae> What version of OS X is this?
#1077 [09:49] <Lukathewarrior> I don't think it is even downloaded
#1078 [09:49] <Lukathewarrior> 10.6.8
#1079 [09:50] <Thrae> OK, it seems that version, or all versions, doesn't come with wget. Hmmm....
#1080 [09:51] <Lukathewarrior> Not easy huh? Sorry don't want to take up all your time.
#1081 [09:51] <Burlingk> Does Minecraft use wget? (it should be easy to install wget).
#1082 [09:51] <Lukathewarrior> Maybe I will take it to Gametraders or somewhere where there are lots of gamers and see if they can play with it
#1083 [09:52] <Thrae> Type in "curl -OL http://Minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip""
#1084 [09:53] * Thrae doesn't have a Mac and isn't trained to support them, so is using the power of Google.
#1084 [09:53] <Lukathewarrior> thank god for Google - we should rename it GOD
#1085 [09:54] <Lukathewarrior> So I tried the "curl -OL http://Minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip" and got >
#1086 [09:54] <Thrae> Type in Minecraft.zip
#1087 [09:55] <Lukathewarrior> yep and > again
#1088 [09:55] <Thrae> Blargh, hit CTRL+C and let's try this again
#1089 [09:55] <Thrae> Type in "curl -OL http://Minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip > Minecraft.zip"
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#1092 [09:57] <Lukathewarrior> you do mean in Terminal don't you?
#1093 [09:57] <Thrae> Yes. Terminal should still be open.
#1094 [09:58] <Lukathewarrior> done that
#1095 [09:58] <Thrae> Did you hit CTRL+C to get back the prompt?
#1096 [09:58] <Thrae> That is, what normally comes after a successful command, not >
#1097 [09:59] <Lukathewarrior> yep and it did a weird thing ..... % total % Recieved etc
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#1099 [09:59] <Thrae> OK, so now type in "unzip Minecraft.zip"
#1100 [10:00] <Lukathewarrior> I think it is angry with you ..... it says ..... cannot find zipfile directory in one of Minecraft.zip or Minecraft.zip.zip, and cannot find Minecraft.zip.ZIP, period.
#1101 [10:01] <Thrae> OK, seems I had the command wrong. Type in "curl http://Minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip --O http://Minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip"
#1102 [10:01] <Thrae> whoops
#1103 [10:01] <Thrae> OK, seems I had the command wrong. Type in "curl http://Minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip --O Minecraft.zip"
#1104 [10:02] <Lukathewarrior> says % total % recieved etc
#1105 [10:02] <Thrae> OK, good. Type in "unzip Minecraft.zip"
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#1107 [10:03] <Thrae> Did that give the same error as the last time we tried it?
#1108 [10:03] <Lukathewarrior> yep sorry
#1109 [10:03] <Thrae> Try simply "unzip Minecraft"
#1110 [10:04] <Lukathewarrior> End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on the last disk(s) of this archive.
#1111 [10:04] <Thrae> Hmmm. Type in "cd Minecraft". Does it give an error?
#1112 [10:05] <Lukathewarrior> bash: cd: Minecraft: No such file or directory
#1113 [10:05] <Thrae> Yeah; thought so.
#1114 [10:06] <Lukathewarrior> Thrae, thank you so much for all your help. I think it is time to give up for now
#1115 [10:06] <Lukathewarrior> I do however really appreicate all your energy and time trying to help - very kind of you.
#1116 [10:06] <Thrae> Sorry. There should be some people more knowledgeable about Macs on later today in the afternoon EST.
#1117 [10:06] <d3rfu5> Hi all, my minecraft keeps crashing all the time after a few minutes of gameplay, can someone help me ? thanks (crash log: http://pastebin.com/aWXYQc2Y)
#1118 [10:06] <Thrae> I am extremely tired and need sleep.
#1119 [10:06] <Lukathewarrior> cool again thanks
#1120 [10:06] * Thrae sleeps.
#1120 [10:07] <d3rfu5> no one can help me ?
#1121 [10:07] <d3rfu5> please?
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#1124 [10:15] <Burlingk> :P I think I found a bug.
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#1127 [10:20] <shmoo> HELP
#1128 [10:21] <shmoo> SOMEONE !?
#1129 [10:21] <mariettagecko> ??> shmoo ask
#1130 [10:21] <VoxelHead> shmoo: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1131 [10:21] <VoxelHead> shmoo: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1132 [10:22] <shmoo> my minecraft on 1.8.1 cant reach any server
#1133 [10:22] <mariettagecko> Can't reach any external SMP server?
#1134 [10:22] <shmoo> yup
#1135 [10:22] <mariettagecko> shmoo: can it log you in?
#1136 [10:22] <shmoo> on every server its saying: Can't reach server
#1137 [10:22] <shmoo> yea it logs in
#1138 [10:23] <mariettagecko> shmoo: Ok, good. are you behind a firewall or anything like that?
#1139 [10:23] <shmoo> no
#1140 [10:23] <shmoo> on 1.7.3 it was just getting in servers,
#1141 [10:24] <mariettagecko> The server you're trying to connect to... Has it been upgraded from 1.7.3 to 1.8.1?
#1142 [10:24] <shmoo> ya
#1143 [10:24] <shmoo> it even just startet, maybe 2 days ago i think
#1144 [10:24] <mariettagecko> Did anything change immediately before it started?
#1145 [10:25] <shmoo> no
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#1147 [10:25] <mariettagecko> was 1.8 working before that time?
#1148 [10:26] <shmoo> ya it was,
#1149 [10:26] <shmoo> only wat lags ,
#1150 [10:26] <mariettagecko> shmoo: I'm sorry, please try that again? what about lag?
#1151 [10:27] <shmoo> 1.8 was working good, except multi
#1152 [10:27] <shmoo> player
#1153 [10:28] <mariettagecko> shmoo: Ok, so has 1.8 SMP ever worked for you?
#1154 [10:28] <shmoo> yup
#1155 [10:30] <mariettagecko> to what server are you trying to connect?
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#1157 [10:30] <shmoo> 5.171.58.78
#1158 [10:30] <shmoo> and the1 were yogscast was on,
#1159 [10:30] <mariettagecko> waht sort of server is this?
#1160 [10:30] <shmoo> survival
#1161 [10:30] <mariettagecko> is this a Hamachi server?
#1162 [10:31] <shmoo> no
#1163 [10:31] <mariettagecko> Who is hosting this server?
#1164 [10:32] <shmoo> nickyboy35
#1165 [10:33] <mariettagecko> right.
#1166 [10:33] <mariettagecko> that's a hamachi server.
#1167 [10:33] <mariettagecko> ??> shmoo fubar/hamachi
#1168 [10:33] <shmoo> huh
#1169 [10:33] <VoxelHead> shmoo: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1170 [10:33] <VoxelHead> shmoo: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1171 [10:34] <shmoo> is it hamachi ?
#1172 [10:34] <mariettagecko> sure looks it.
#1173 [10:34] <mariettagecko> try a different server that is not using Hamachi
#1174 [10:34] <mariettagecko> I can't ping that address.
#1175 [10:34] <shmoo> hmm, i dont have other servers wat i know they are on 1.8.1 already
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#1177 [10:35] <mariettagecko> ??> shmoo smp/servers
#1178 [10:35] <VoxelHead> shmoo: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1179 [10:35] <VoxelHead> shmoo: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1180 [10:36] <shmoo> hmm
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#1184 [10:47] <Burlingk> I like the fact though that he finally added a server list function to the program so that I can track servers I connect to often. :)
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#1193 [11:12] <Yogiclip> hi
#1194 [11:12] <Yogiclip> can someone help me please?
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#1196 [11:13] <Yogiclip> hello?
#1197 [11:13] <Yogiclip> hi
#1198 [11:14] <Yogiclip> can someone hear me?
#1199 [11:15] <mariettagecko> no, we can't hear you
#1200 [11:15] <Yogiclip> oh
#1201 [11:15] <Yogiclip> ^^
#1202 [11:15] <mariettagecko> ??> Yogiclip ask
#1203 [11:15] <VoxelHead> Yogiclip: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1204 [11:15] <VoxelHead> Yogiclip: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1205 [11:16] <Yogiclip> when i start minecraft and i put my name in the login and i star then there is a black screen
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#1208 [11:17] <Yogiclip> sorry for my bad english:(
#1209 [11:17] <mariettagecko> So when you enter your username and password, then click login, you get a black screen and nothing more.
#1210 [11:17] <mariettagecko> Correct?
#1211 [11:17] <Yogiclip> correct
#1212 [11:17] <RiGi> Yogiclip: I have the same
#1213 [11:18] <mariettagecko> What OS are you using?
#1214 [11:18] <RiGi> but in case that i'm using external monitor only
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#1216 [11:18] <RiGi> when i enable laptop screen and external monitor togather it's ok
#1217 [11:18] <Yogiclip> OS?
#1218 [11:18] <RiGi> ubuntu
#1219 [11:18] <mariettagecko> Operating System
#1220 [11:18] <Yogiclip> me too
#1221 [11:18] <mariettagecko> RiGi, that's a known issue with Ubuntu.
#1222 [11:18] <mariettagecko> Are you using a laptop, or a desktop?
#1223 [11:18] <RiGi> good :)
#1224 [11:18] <RiGi> laptop
#1225 [11:19] <Yogiclip> a laptop with desktop
#1226 [11:19] <mariettagecko> Sorry, that was directed toward Yogiclip
#1227 [11:19] <RiGi> Yogiclip: do you mean laptop with monitor?
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#1229 [11:19] <Yogiclip> yes
#1230 [11:19] <mariettagecko> Yogiclip: so you're using a laptop running ubuntu and using only a physical monitor for video, not the laptop screen too?
#1231 [11:19] <RiGi> Yogiclip: so don't use just monitor..and use monitor as extentions for your laptop..or in the other way
#1232 [11:19] <RiGi> and it will work
#1233 [11:20] <Yogiclip> my laptop desktop is broken
#1234 [11:21] <RiGi> do u mean your laptop screen?
#1235 [11:21] <Yogiclip> yes
#1236 [11:21] <Yogiclip> ^^
#1237 [11:21] <mariettagecko> Yogiclip: in that case, you're in a bit of a pickle.
#1238 [11:21] * RiGi was searching for correct words...thanks :D
#1238 [11:21] <mariettagecko> Yogiclip: Unfortunately, there's something up with Ubuntu and it not handling display of Minecraft to external displays only.
#1239 [11:22] <mariettagecko> It works fine with an extended desktop consisting of one external display and the built-in laptop screen.
#1240 [11:22] <mariettagecko> It also works fine if you have just the built-in laptop screen.
#1241 [11:22] <RiGi> i'm not sure if it's just ubuntu issue
#1242 [11:22] <mariettagecko> But if you only have one or more external monitors, the game will do exactly what you're saying.
#1243 [11:23] <mariettagecko> I am pretty sure it is.
#1244 [11:23] <RiGi> minecraft is java..and i don't have an issue with another java applications
#1245 [11:23] <Yogiclip> oh thank you for help
#1246 [11:23] <mariettagecko> The problem seems to have something to do with the graphics drivers and the inability for X to select a proper graphics mode.
#1247 [11:24] <RiGi> but once you start it..you can turn off build-in screen
#1248 [11:24] <RiGi> and it's ok..only during the closure of minecraft window it will somehow enable build-in screen again
#1249 [11:24] <mariettagecko> It is likely to be something up in the code of Minecraft, in addition to being an issue within Ubuntu.
#1250 [11:24] * RiGi agree, now :)
#1250 [11:26] <Yogiclip> thanks
#1251 [11:26] <Yogiclip> and bye bye
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#1253 [11:27] * Yogiclip wave
#1253 [11:31] <mariettagecko> I'd have asserted that he was up a certain creek without a paddle, but I think that would be somewhat harder of a metaphor for him to decipher, given that it sounded like he is not a native english speaker.
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#1263 [11:51] <rymate1234> hello
#1264 [11:51] <rymate1234> need any help? :)
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#1267 [11:52] <fron> hi all
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#1270 [11:55] <cabopato> soy español
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#1272 [11:55] <mib_52tf64> hello
#1273 [11:56] <fron> hi
#1274 [11:56] <cabopato> speak spanish??
#1275 [11:56] <mib_52tf64> I keep getting a login failed error since 1.8 any ideas?
#1276 [11:56] <fron> me to ;[
#1277 [11:56] <mib_52tf64> ?
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#1280 [12:02] <Diablothein> !check 173.218.228.251:25565
#1281 [12:03] <Diablothein> Yep, I did.
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#1285 [12:15] <hmw> Got a computer (Intel Core Duo), which is generally much faster than my old one, but Minecraft isn't too happy. It runs quite nicely most of the time, but every now and then it slows down, as if two different Antivirus programs started scannind the hard drive. Fresh WinXP, no Antivirus/Firewall/Anything. Any ideas, what I could try?
#1286 [12:18] <hmw> This channel looks suspiciously silent. Anyone here?
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#1289 [12:24] <hmw> Does this channel also require registration?
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#1291 [12:28] <hmw> Is there anybody out there?
#1292 [12:28] <FoolWhip> hi
#1293 [12:28] <hmw> hah!
#1294 [12:28] <FoolWhip> i know nothing about registration
#1295 [12:28] <hmw> Could you see my previous message ("Got a computer...")?
#1296 [12:29] <FoolWhip> ram/video card?
#1297 [12:30] <hmw> RAM at 533 MHz (old PC 333), GPU Radeon HD5450 (should also be more modern)
#1298 [12:30] <hmw> Temperatures look good
#1299 [12:31] <FoolWhip> how much ram
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#1302 [12:31] <mr_wibble> anyone ready to help?
#1303 [12:31] <hmw> 3 GB. I really don't see any reason for this issue...
#1304 [12:31] <FoolWhip> hmm
#1305 [12:31] <hmw> mr_wibble: ask a question, perhaps we can help.
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#1307 [12:32] <VoxelBread> Hi
#1308 [12:32] <mr_wibble> I dont know if that big read message is to say anyone running OS XP but minecraft just stopeed working for me
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#1310 [12:33] <VoxelBread> I'm sorry but I don't us OS XP
#1311 [12:33] <hmw> OSX or WinXP, mr_wibble?
#1312 [12:33] <mr_wibble> WinXP
#1313 [12:34] <mr_wibble> Minecraft has never given me the video card error but just after this last update it did
#1314 [12:34] <hmw> What error message exactly?
#1315 [12:34] <FoolWhip> hmw - was it running fine before the update?
#1316 [12:34] <mr_wibble> Perfectly fine
#1317 [12:34] <hmw> FoolWhip: can't say, just got that PC and installed it.
#1318 [12:34] <FoolWhip> gotcha
#1319 [12:35] <mr_wibble> Hang ill tell you the error in just a sec
#1320 [12:35] <mr_wibble> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1321 [12:35] <mr_wibble> bout to say why am i owner lol
#1322 [12:36] <hmw> it /should/ run super smooth, which it does most of the time. It's just after 10 minutes or so, that it gets me almost no FPS for about a minute. There is no background tasks, I am pretty sure... I might again try reinstalling the whole system...
#1323 [12:36] <mr_wibble> talking to me?
#1324 [12:37] <hmw> no, that ^^ was for FoolWhip
#1325 [12:37] <FoolWhip> wibble: i know I personally updated my opengl drivers for a few other games right before 1.8 came out
#1326 [12:37] <mr_wibble> ah okay
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#1328 [12:37] <mr_wibble> gotta a site i can go to foolwhip?
#1329 [12:38] <FoolWhip> hmw: did you check your system processes to confirm that it was mc?
#1330 [12:38] <hmw> mr_wibble: Try your GPU manufacturer's web site, install most current drivers
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#1332 [12:38] <VoxelBread> Hi
#1333 [12:39] <FoolWhip> mr wibble: mine updated via direct x updates
#1334 [12:40] <FoolWhip> direct x 9 specifically
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#1336 [12:40] <FoolWhip> i am sad. 1.8 has converted my snowy tower into a rain storm.
#1337 [12:40] <RobinJ> xd
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#1339 [12:41] <hmw> FoolWhip: I am not seeing anything interesting. Mostly looks like on this screenshot (but I was NOT using pidgin before): http://imagebin.org/173419 - the only strange thing is "Page Faults" (Seitenf...) for javaw.exe, but I am not sure, if that's ok or not
#1340 [12:41] <RobinJ> i get the menu screen, but from the moment i try to connect to a server the game freezes...
#1341 [12:43] <RobinJ> could anyone take a look? teamviewer?
#1342 [12:44] <hmw> RobinJ: OS, GPU, RAM? Up-to-date GPU drivers?
#1343 [12:44] <RobinJ> Ubuntu, 2Ghz, 2GB, most up-to-date this graphic card accepts
#1344 [12:44] <hmw> ah. I have the same issue with Ubuntu 10.04 (I guess, the LTS). No idea, why, though :-(
#1345 [12:45] <RobinJ> well it works on my laptop... (11.04)
#1346 [12:46] <RobinJ> hmw make sure you've got the latest closed-source nvidia/ati driver, remove .minecraft folder from your home directory, and launch the game using OpenJDK
#1347 [12:46] <FoolWhip> hmw: I would disregard the page faults... i just looked at mine, its in the millions. but my memory usage is over 900,000, and my virtual memory usage is over 1,100,000
#1348 [12:46] <hmw> I couldn't get the Radeon driver to work on that box, so I just installed fglrx via that automatic "Hardware drivers available" thingy.
#1349 [12:47] <RobinJ> would anyone care to take a look? cause a black screen is far less interesting than playing the game :D
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#1351 [12:48] <hmw> FoolWhip: thanks anyways. I'll try something. When I find out, what that something is. Perhaps reinstalling things. I wasn't really expecting the simple solution here. It's never the simple problems on my computers *grin*
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#1353 [12:50] <hmw> RobinJ: I wouldn't really know, what to look for, since I didn't solve it on my Ubuntu yet... Sometimes, purging and reinstalling the JRE helped people. My problem persists with OpenJDK as well as with Sun's Java version.
#1354 [12:50] <FoolWhip> yeah
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#1356 [13:00] <VoxelBread> Hi
#1357 [13:01] <VoxelBread> When I log on it says 'Fatal Error Occured:......' can someone plz help!
#1358 [13:01] <VoxelBread> Plz
#1359 [13:02] <VoxelBread> Fine, Ignore me, see if i care }=(
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#1361 [13:03] <VoxelBread> When I log on it says 'Fatal Error Occured:......' can someone plz help!
#1362 [13:03] <hmw> We can read. Problem is, we can't solve the issue. Not that we just don't want to.
#1363 [13:03] <VoxelBread> f***
#1364 [13:04] <hmw> What fatal error exactly, btw? Try googeling the full error message, too.
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#1366 [13:06] <VoxelBread> It says 'The working directory cannot be created
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#1369 [13:08] <VoxelBread> It says 'The working directory cannot be created
#1370 [13:08] <hmw> VoxelHead: OS?
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#1373 [13:09] <Ketsueki> hmw; I had a library error until I followed something off the arch forums for setting the correct path; now 64 bit java works Juuust fine
#1374 [13:10] <VoxelBread> Can someone help me? It says 'The working directory cannot be created!
#1375 [13:10] <hmw> I had a path problem solved, too. Btw. My ubuntu runs as 32bit version, I think.
#1376 [13:10] <hmw> VoxelBread: OS?
#1377 [13:10] <VoxelBread> What the heck r u on about 'OS'?
#1378 [13:10] <hmw> What OS do you use?
#1379 [13:11] <hmw> operating system?
#1380 [13:11] <VoxelBread> Oh, oh, Windows 7
#1381 [13:11] <VoxelBread> Windows 7!
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#1383 [13:12] <hmw> Damn. I avoided W7 until now. I'd try completely purging minecraft and redownload it. (go to %appdata% to find and delete the ".mincraft" folder)
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#1385 [13:12] <VoxelBread> ok
#1386 [13:12] <VoxelBread> Wait
#1387 [13:13] * hmw waits
#1387 [13:13] <VoxelBread> Just to think about it, i looking in %appdata% and theres no /Minecraft =D
#1388 [13:13] <VoxelBread> =0
#1389 [13:13] <VoxelBread> .Minecraft*
#1390 [13:13] <guest-746017-72207> hellow could i ask a question about minecraft server?
#1391 [13:13] <VoxelBread> just a minite
#1392 [13:14] <hmw> VoxelBread: probably your explorer hides "hidden" files from you
#1393 [13:14] <guest-746017-72207> sure take yur time
#1394 [13:14] <hmw> guest-746017-72207: sure.
#1395 [13:14] <VoxelBread> ok
#1396 [13:15] <guest-746017-72207> im looking for the a command's search web like sick and its always bukkit and mod's and shit is there a other way to add them like /sethome and disable spawnpoint for building
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#1398 [13:15] <guest-746017-72207> add commands *
#1399 [13:15] <hmw> guest-746017-72207: you want just a white list?
#1400 [13:16] <hmw> guest-746017-72207: AFAIK, you cannot disable the spawn-point protection in vanilla MC-Server. You could give your players OP status to circumvent the protection.
#1401 [13:17] <guest-746017-72207> ok how to add /sethome command?
#1402 [13:17] <hmw> I don't know that command. You will need some mod for your server, but I don't know mods really. What should /sethome do?
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#1404 [13:19] <guest-746017-72207> is there a way to add mods without bukkit server? mac/osx
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#1406 [13:22] <guest-746017-72207> well if i fugure it out ill let ya know :D
#1407 [13:22] <guest-746017-72207> its one big sandwich
#1408 [13:23] <hmw> guest-746017-72207: there is. Just find mods that work on their own without bukkit on minecraftforums.
#1409 [13:23] <guest-746017-72207> hmm ok ill cheak it out thx for the help
#1410 [13:23] <guest-746017-72207> never thout of that
#1411 [13:24] <guest-746017-72207> its like stand alone like a application?
#1412 [13:24] <guest-746017-72207> well is it even mac compatible?
#1413 [13:24] <guest-746017-72207> well guesee ill have to take a look
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#1415 [13:24] <hmw> Since everything is written in Java, there should be no compatibility issues. You will be using the exact same java programs, as I do under Windows.
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#1417 [13:26] <Catman> a question. is there crative mode for multiplayer?
#1418 [13:27] <Catman> if not will it ever be?
#1419 [13:27] <hmw> Catman: I think, there will be
#1420 [13:28] <hmw> Catman: see http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
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#1424 [13:30] <petern> so, er, can i get help for classic?
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#1428 [13:32] <Softish> Minecraft freezes during download of updates.. Any tip?
#1429 [13:33] <hmw> Softish: delete your .minecraft folder (navigate to %appdata% to find it) and reinstall freshly
#1430 [13:34] <Softish> Ah, i were looking for more minecraft-files, but couldnt find it. Thanks, let's give it a try
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#1433 [13:38] <Softish> Still the same probs..
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#1435 [13:38] <Spinoza> ahoy
#1436 [13:39] <Spinoza> is there a known issue of being unable to log in from a stand alone client?
#1437 [13:39] <Spinoza> I can log in fine in browser...
#1438 [13:43] <Softish> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39261978/mineerror.PNG
#1439 [13:45] <Softish> I logged in in browser, and got the update there istead. Now the client works fine.
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#1442 [13:49] <guest-746017-72207> seems like all treaths are dead on /sethome commands xD
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#1444 [13:50] <guest-746017-72207> think ill have to write it myself O_0
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#1447 [13:53] <guest-746017-72207> is this a good server program? http://www.canarymod.net/
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#1450 [13:55] <petern> what the...
#1451 [13:55] <mib_vwci16> Is there a chance that I am missing how to get a gift code? got confirmation that money was transferred, got no email back about gift code, profile does not show a new code available. What should I do to be sure all is proper from my end? It has been four days since the purchase. Again, is it me or the lack of knowing how to retreive the code?
#1452 [13:55] <petern> minecraft server list thinks my server is on 127.0.0.1
#1453 [13:56] <petern> how does that work? doesn't the heartbeat get the server ip from the heartbeat source ip?
#1454 [13:57] <Acid20> Hello Guys
#1455 [13:57] <Acid20> Wug : here i am ... rock .... hurricane ...
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#1457 [13:58] <anylog> hello can some1 help me?
#1458 [13:58] <anylog> ?
#1459 [13:58] <anylog> when a lvl of minecraft betais loading its stop
#1460 [13:59] <anylog> can some1 help meee?????????????????????????????????????????
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#1462 [14:00] <anylog> can some1 help me??
#1463 [14:00] <anylog> answer?
#1464 [14:00] <ShadowBelmont32> Hello, I have a bit of a problem with running minecraft 1.8 on my comp
#1465 [14:00] <anylog> cAN SOME1 HELP ME?
#1466 [14:01] <anylog> heloooooooooooo?
#1467 [14:01] <ShadowBelmont32> idk if its my computer in general or if others have this problem as well
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#1469 [14:02] <anylog> HELLO CAN SOME1 HELP MEEE?
#1470 [14:02] <ShadowBelmont32> but entities (character, chest, mobs, etc.) are way too dark even in well lit areas and i need to know if there is a bug fix for that
#1471 [14:02] <ShadowBelmont32> or if its my computer/video card causing that
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#1473 [14:03] <Diablothein> !check 173.218.228.251:25565
#1474 [14:04] <Diablothein> Hmm...
#1475 [14:04] <Diablothein> !check 173.218.228.251
#1476 [14:04] <Diablothein> Alright, I need help on helping someone set up a server.
#1477 [14:04] <Catman> is there a creativ mode for multiplayer?
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#1480 [14:04] <|Kiikun|> !check 98.71.171.185
#1481 [14:04] <Diablothein> Catman, yep, if you're admin and want to set the whole server to creative, set the game mode in server-properties to 1
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#1483 [14:05] <Catman> thx man
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#1486 [14:05] <Skywalker> hi everyone =)
#1487 [14:05] <|Kiikun|> Catman: you can set individual players in creative mode by /gamemode player 1
#1488 [14:05] <Diablothein> interesting notion.
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#1490 [14:06] <|Kiikun|> Diablothein: i asume this is a hosted server and not one your running locally
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#1492 [14:06] <Diablothein> It's a server my friend is running off of his computer for 4 people
#1493 [14:06] <|Kiikun|> Diablothein: then he needs to set up port forwarding right... or the server is currently off
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#1495 [14:07] <Diablothein> Server is on, and we just forwarded the ports
#1496 [14:07] <ShadowBelmont32> I have a graphics issue or something
#1497 [14:07] <|Kiikun|> ShadowBelmont32: you have smoothlighting off?
#1498 [14:08] <ShadowBelmont32> no all the entities like characters and mobs and chests are dark all the time and the letters are transparent in the inventory...
#1499 [14:08] <|Kiikun|> ShadowBelmont32: that sounds more like a client error.
#1500 [14:08] <Diablothein> Do you have a texture pack installed?
#1501 [14:08] <ShadowBelmont32> idk if its just my computer or something i dont have on my computer
#1502 [14:09] <ShadowBelmont32> and no no texture packs
#1503 [14:09] <|Kiikun|> ??> ShadowBelmont32 forceupdate
#1504 [14:09] <VoxelHead> ShadowBelmont32: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1505 [14:09] <VoxelHead> ShadowBelmont32: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1506 [14:09] <Skywalker> has some1 found / been able to fix 1.8.1 sound&java error that crashes the game ? (occurs in browser&client)
#1507 [14:09] * |Kiikun| hasnt even heard of this error.
#1507 [14:10] <Skywalker> well I have it
#1508 [14:10] <AMc> Are there ways to determine if the purchase of a gift code was successful, 4 days after the purchase was confirmed?
#1509 [14:10] <|Kiikun|> Skywalker: got an error log? if so put it on pastebin.com and give us the link
#1510 [14:11] <|Kiikun|> AMc: purchasing a gift code should put it on your profile page.
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#1512 [14:11] <ShadowBelmont32> ok force update didnt help me :(
#1513 [14:11] <AMc> Profile has the same 2 old codes nothing new, no follow up email with new code#
#1514 [14:12] <|Kiikun|> ShadowBelmont32: ok that removes minecraft itself as the issue. try updating your video card drivers
#1515 [14:12] <Acid20> Hey. Has some1 personal contact to Wug? Cause i need information from him >.<
#1516 [14:12] <|Kiikun|> AMc: was payment taken from the card you used? check with your bank.
#1517 [14:13] <ShadowBelmont32> ok i probably can't play 1.8 at all then on my comp cuz i dont think there are anymore updates for my vidcard drivers
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#1519 [14:13] <AMc> yes money is gone (took 4 min from order) last friday night
#1520 [14:13] <|Kiikun|> ShadowBelmont32: if there isnt, then try uninstalling and reinstalling java
#1521 [14:14] <|Kiikun|> AMc: ok then, youll have to contact mojang then.
#1522 [14:14] <|Kiikun|> ??> AMc account
#1523 [14:14] <VoxelHead> AMc: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#1524 [14:14] <VoxelHead> AMc: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#1525 [14:14] <|Kiikun|> ignore the 2nd line
#1526 [14:14] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1527 [14:14] <ShadowBelmont32> ok is there a specific uninstall procedure or do i just do add/remove programs?
#1528 [14:15] <Hermith_> Is it possible that a "corrupt" map can cause a server to slow down? Deleting player files does nothing, slows down both in Vanilla and Bukkit.
#1529 [14:15] <|Kiikun|> ShadowBelmont32: just add/remove. if it borks at somepoint then we go to javara
#1530 [14:15] <|Kiikun|> Hermith_: yup. it coudl have insane numbers of entities doing it
#1531 [14:16] <AMc> O.K. , bye
#1532 [14:16] <tungdiil> hi i ve a problem when i play minecraft on server (hosted by nitrado) i can do things but for me when i place a block or someone moves it takes minutes an they see me doing thiongs in the same second i do it in singhleplayer i have no problem but there is the best connection whem we can thrust the display
#1533 [14:16] <Hermith_> Hm.. it only slows down when a player join.
#1534 [14:16] <Hermith_> |Kiikun|
#1535 [14:17] <Hermith_> Know if theres any way of narrowing down on what is causing the slowdown?
#1536 [14:17] <|Kiikun|> Hermith_: tried with a whole new map? see if it still slows down.
#1537 [14:18] <Hermith_> |Kiikun| : A freshly generated map runs perfectly
#1538 [14:18] <|Kiikun|> Hermith_: try openign the map in mcedit and see if theres massive numbers of entities somewhere
#1539 [14:18] <|Kiikun|> ?? mcedit
#1540 [14:18] <VoxelHead> mcedit: http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#1541 [14:19] <Skywalker> http://share.ovi.com/download.aspx?media=DarksBlack.10031
#1542 [14:19] <Hermith_> |Kiikun| : And an entity would be defined as what?
#1543 [14:19] <Skywalker> my error log Kiikun
#1544 [14:21] <|Kiikun|> Hermith_: mobs, carts, boats, dropped items, exp orbs :P anything that exists but can move
#1545 [14:21] <mib_b0c3oh> hey i have a problem each time i try to play minecraft in browser it starts to load but then when it is done loading the screen turns black
#1546 [14:22] <Hermith_> |Kiikun| : That makes a lot of sense. Thinking about it the server fucked up real bad when one of the players ran a Minecart into a wall at massive speeds and died, hard.
#1547 [14:22] * AuBot kicked Hermith_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ermith_ :Please keep it civil.)
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#1549 [14:22] <Hermith_> Whoops
#1550 [14:22] <Hermith_> |Kiikun| : That makes a lot of sense. Thinking about it the server locked up real bad when one of the players ran a Minecart into a wall at massive speeds and died, hard.
#1551 [14:22] <Hermith_> |Kiikun|: Thanks!
#1552 [14:23] <|Kiikun|> Skywalker: ~.~ why couldnt you just pastebin that? and its crashing on one of your intel driver dlls.
#1553 [14:23] <|Kiikun|> Hermith_: no prob :D
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#1556 [14:26] <bernard> i get error 4
#1557 [14:27] <ShadowBelmont32> well thanks for all the suggestions but uninstalling and reinstalling java didnt help so its just the fact that my computer is a dinosaur :/
#1558 [14:27] <Skywalker> thx for reply
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#1561 [14:29] <Hermith_> |Kiikun|: Haha, oh wow. You must see this.
#1562 [14:29] <Hermith_> Hang on, just gonna upload the screenshot to imgur
#1563 [14:29] <mib_2qdf75> i get error 4
#1564 [14:30] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Hermith_: his items all in suspended animation inside a wall? :P
#1565 [14:30] <Hermith_> |Kiikun|Janus|: Bad entities you say? http://i.imgur.com/6qJ5s.png
#1566 [14:31] <Diablothein> So, update on the server issue of mine, he can log on, nobody else can.
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#1569 [14:31] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Diablothein: that means server is up but his portforwarding fails.... or he has a crappy router
#1570 [14:31] <Diablothein> ports are forwarded.
#1571 [14:32] <Diablothein> Also, we played 1.7.3 on his server, it worked
#1572 [14:32] <Diablothein> We did a fresh install for 1.8.1, and it's not doing anything.
#1573 [14:32] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Diablothein: any chance he put something in server-ip?
#1574 [14:32] <Ariakas> Ho do i show running sh's by name in ubuntu terminal?
#1575 [14:33] <Diablothein> He did the first time but I removed it when I was setting up the port forward.
#1576 [14:33] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Hermith_: dunno mcedit. think all entities show like that. you can try deleting them
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#1578 [14:34] <DaveRave> i keep geting java.net.socketexception connection reset
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#1580 [14:34] <DaveRave> enyone know how to fix
#1581 [14:35] <DaveRave> and hi by the way
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#1583 [14:35] <sluggo> can someone help me. when i go on minecraft the screen is gone black and yellow anyone know how to fix it?
#1584 [14:36] <Acid20> hey guys
#1585 [14:37] <Acid20> its really important: has some1 personal contact to wug?
#1586 [14:37] <Acid20> need information from him >.<
#1587 [14:37] <DaveRave> enyone got a link i can go to thats has a fix
#1588 [14:39] <DaveRave> i tryed a few things like tcp optomiser
#1589 [14:39] <DaveRave> still no luck
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#1592 [14:42] <mib_w4pino> Can anyone help me... i bought and downloaded minecraft from minecraft.net and i saved it into a new folder and whenever i run the program i can play for like 5 mins and this java (tm) command prompt pops up and says failure 42 and shuts the program down...?
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#1594 [14:43] <Ariakas> force update to be sure
#1595 [14:43] <mib_w4pino> i just do that in options? before i login to game?
#1596 [14:44] <DaveRave> eny one help me with java.net.socketexception connection reset
#1597 [14:44] <Ariakas> open up your minecraft folder and run minecraft updater
#1598 [14:44] <Ariakas> daverave are you on multiplayer?
#1599 [14:44] <DaveRave> yip
#1600 [14:44] <Ariakas> it happens on all servers?
#1601 [14:45] <DaveRave> its fine for a few min then bam dc
#1602 [14:45] <rhys2000gbgb> "user not premium" payment reciept on 10th September and still no access...sent emails to support and billing on 16th Sept. No response from either...
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#1604 [14:45] <DaveRave> so you think its the server its self ?
#1605 [14:46] <DaveRave> thing is everyone ealse is ok apart from me and i have a ping of 49
#1606 [14:47] <DaveRave> no firewall on but through a roughter
#1607 [14:47] <mib_w4pino> how do i download the newest minecraft
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#1609 [14:49] <mib_w4pino> minecraft beta 1.8.1 the newest???
#1610 [14:50] <DaveRave> oh that fixed it i forced a download must have had a bad file
#1611 [14:51] <DaveRave> na just dc again
#1612 [14:51] <DaveRave> bet its my isp its virginmedia
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#1614 [14:52] <DaveRave> bet its piking the connection up as a p2p connection
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#1616 [14:53] <DaveRave> and they throttel hell out them
#1617 [14:53] <Guest6345> Hello can someone help me i have a problem getting minecraft downloaden i have a fatal error (4)
#1618 [14:53] <mib_w4pino> k so i just bought this game last night and i need one question answered... how to craft a torch
#1619 [14:54] <Guest6345> torch is coal and stick under it
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#1621 [14:54] <mib_w4pino> ok
#1622 [14:54] <DaveRave> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#1623 [14:55] <DaveRave> thats good info
#1624 [14:55] <Guest6345> for me??
#1625 [14:56] <DaveRave> yes look at crafting
#1626 [14:56] <DaveRave> give you the info on what you need
#1627 [14:56] <Guest6345> oh the torch wasn't me i have a other problem
#1628 [14:57] <DaveRave> ok np i just noticed lol
#1629 [14:57] <Guest6345> i wanted a clean minecraft instal so i deleted minecraft but when i tryed to redownload it it stops at 6% and after a while it says fatal error 4
#1630 [14:57] <Guest6345> np :P
#1631 [14:59] <Guest6345> i looked on some site but couln't found anything :S
#1632 [14:59] <Guest6345> find*
#1633 [14:59] <DaveRave> is the packets the same as p2p trafic cos i recon thats why im geting java.net.socketexception connection reset
#1634 [15:00] <DaveRave> and i know what virginmedia is like
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#1638 [15:00] <Guest6345> uhm dont knoww about p2p? but the error says connection reset
#1639 [15:01] <DaveRave> basicly if virginmedia think the packets a torrent they throttel
#1640 [15:02] <DaveRave> p2p basicly
#1641 [15:02] <DaveRave> that means i wont be able to play on no servers
#1642 [15:02] <mib_w4pino> WTF still closing my program with this memory error failure 42 thing
#1643 [15:02] <DaveRave> had it a few times with diffrent games
#1644 [15:04] <DaveRave> the only way to stop it is for mc to get in contact with them and submit a packet header to them to id it not to class it as p2p
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#1646 [15:04] <kendle> how do i join a server
#1647 [15:04] <Guest6345> oke
#1648 [15:04] <kendle> a multiplayer one
#1649 [15:05] <kendle> ?
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#1651 [15:05] <kendle> help me please?
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#1653 [15:05] <kendle> idk how to join a server or use hamachi
#1654 [15:06] <Hermith_> Kendle: You find someone that hosts a public server and get their adress. Then you type that adress into the field under Multiplayer in MInecraft.
#1655 [15:06] <kendle> i know that
#1656 [15:06] <kendle> but
#1657 [15:06] <pheleas_frog> why does my minecraft keep crashing after about 30 secs
#1658 [15:06] <kendle> i try to join and it says connection failed
#1659 [15:06] <kendle> i heard you have to go into a server.txt folder and change it to false
#1660 [15:07] <kendle> but i cant find it
#1661 [15:07] <Hermith_> Kendle: You are probably thinking about ServerProperties, but that's a file only the ones that host the server have access to.
#1662 [15:07] <Hermith_> Kendle: Are you typing a port after the address when you connect?
#1663 [15:07] <kendle> oh
#1664 [15:08] <Hermith_> like blabla.com:25565?
#1665 [15:08] <kendle> sometimes the people dont put the port after
#1666 [15:08] <kendle> is the port always the same?
#1667 [15:08] <Hermith_> Yes, some servers don't require it.
#1668 [15:08] <Hermith_> No, the server admin decides what to use.
#1669 [15:08] <Hermith_> 25565 is the most common one to use.
#1670 [15:08] <kendle> could you give me a server you use to try?
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#1672 [15:10] <Hermith_> Kendle, you can go here and see if you find a server: http://www.reddit.com/r/mcpublic
#1673 [15:10] <kendle> and just type server in the search bar?
#1674 [15:11] <Hermith_> No, that part of the website is dedicated to people who want to promote their public server
#1675 [15:11] <Hermith_> Just look though the threads.
#1676 [15:12] <kendle> hmm cant find any
#1677 [15:12] <pheleas_frog> who is runnng the server you are tring to connect to
#1678 [15:14] <kendle> im just surfing the net
#1679 [15:14] <kendle> and finding servers to join
#1680 [15:14] <Hermith_> Kendle: Then try this http://minecraftservers.net/
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#1682 [15:15] <kendle> ok thnx
#1683 [15:15] <kendle> sorry about being such a noob
#1684 [15:15] <kendle> xD
#1685 [15:15] <kendle> what do i do about hamachi
#1686 [15:16] <Hermith_> Nothing?
#1687 [15:16] <Hermith_> You don't need to use Hamachi
#1688 [15:16] <kendle> ok
#1689 [15:16] <kendle> stupid youtube videos
#1690 [15:17] <kendle> i found a server that worked
#1691 [15:17] <kendle> so imma try to play
#1692 [15:17] <kendle> it worked TY DUDE
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#1695 [15:19] <xarcus> my minecraft game keeps giving me a message when i try to load it, saying the game ahs crashed
#1696 [15:21] <Guest6345> what to do with a fatal error (4) connection reset?
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#1698 [15:22] <Guest6345> ??? please can someone help me i really want to play...
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#1701 [15:25] <Guest6345> hello? some one here that can help with an error?
#1702 [15:26] <kendle> how come it says cant reach server?
#1703 [15:28] <Guest6345> srry can't help seems im not getting helped here ill look somewhere els...
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#1709 [15:38] <mib_ts814c> my mine craft wont play and wont update
#1710 [15:39] <mib_ts814c> anyone
#1711 [15:42] <mib_w4pino> can someone help me out with my minecraft everytime i load it... it crashes with this java (tm) error {failure 42}
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#1714 [15:48] <lastelemental> hey guys
#1715 [15:49] <SweCrow> Hello ^^
#1716 [15:50] <lastelemental> when I press F3 2 large bars move horizontally and vertically any1 know why?
#1717 [15:50] <lastelemental> blcoking all the data but not the left half the screen
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#1721 [15:52] <lastelemental> anyone?
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#1723 [15:53] <SMURFS> gosh why does it say i cant play because video driver anyfixes for it i have a intel video card?
#1724 [15:53] <lastelemental> are your intel drivers up to date?
#1725 [15:53] <SMURFS> ummmm yeah i think so
#1726 [15:54] <SMURFS> maybe not its a old driver but when i checked for updates nothing needed to update
#1727 [15:54] <lastelemental> hmm I'm not sure
#1728 [15:55] <SMURFS> i heard intel video cards dont work but im not sure people say notch didnt make it for intel ones so he needs to fix it not sure if its true
#1729 [15:55] <lastelemental> would make sence since only 1 intel chipset can play the game
#1730 [15:55] <SMURFS> but most computers use intel video things so im not sure if its lie or not
#1731 [15:56] <SMURFS> what you mean?
#1732 [15:56] <SMURFS> can you play it
#1733 [15:56] <lastelemental> only the latest gpus are strong enough for this game i beileve
#1734 [15:56] <lastelemental> im on a radeon x1550
#1735 [15:56] <SMURFS> how expensive is that
#1736 [15:57] <lastelemental> its old as hell
#1737 [15:57] <SMURFS> well can you play
#1738 [15:57] <lastelemental> ya
#1739 [15:58] <SMURFS> well mines old to but it doesnt work like for one day i could play 1.7 but 1.8 cant play
#1740 [15:58] <lastelemental> mine handles the game fine short of my cpu bottlenecking it
#1741 [15:59] <SMURFS> oh well i try right now and i will dopy paste it heer see if you can understand it
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#1743 [15:59] <SMURFS> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 9/21/11 3:59 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java:
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#1745 [16:00] <SMURFS> -- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 9/21/11 3:59 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.6.0_26, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)] org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not a
#1746 [16:00] <Jacers> Has anyone encountered "cant reach server" on a server that is up and running?
#1747 [16:00] <SMURFS> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#1748 [16:00] <lastelemental> lemme google something quickly
#1749 [16:01] <SMURFS> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1750 [16:01] <SMURFS> jacers i cant tell you anything because i cant even get on
#1751 [16:01] <Jacers> lol rough
#1752 [16:02] <Jacers> I dunno, my friend bought a server and they all play on it. But it always says cant reach server for me
#1753 [16:02] <SMURFS> well i bought the game and it cant play on my driver
#1754 [16:03] <Jacers> I would try reinstalling my graphics drivers and updating to java 6
#1755 [16:03] <lastelemental> smurfs do you know what chipset you have?
#1756 [16:03] <mariettagecko> Jacers, what's the address of the server to which you're trying to connect?
#1757 [16:03] <Jacers> sc13.servercraft.co:5487
#1758 [16:03] <lastelemental> well onboard video
#1759 [16:03] <mariettagecko> !check sc13.servercraft.co:5487
#1760 [16:04] <mariettagecko> Ok, so that's not the issue.
#1761 [16:04] <Jacers> ><
#1762 [16:04] <mariettagecko> Can you ping the server from your network connection?
#1763 [16:04] <SMURFS> well im pissed
#1764 [16:04] <lastelemental> SMURFS what onboard video do you have?
#1765 [16:04] <Jacers> I can ping sc13.servercraft.co
#1766 [16:04] <SMURFS> ummm i check in a sec
#1767 [16:05] <mariettagecko> ??> smurfs win/dxdiag
#1768 [16:05] <VoxelHead> smurfs: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1769 [16:05] <VoxelHead> smurfs: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1770 [16:05] <mariettagecko> Run that, please.
#1771 [16:05] <mariettagecko> Jacers, ok. Have you got a firewall or anything on your network before you get to the Internet?
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#1773 [16:06] <Jacers> Mariettagecko, yeah but I unhooked the router and went straight to the modem and it was still down.
#1774 [16:06] <mariettagecko> Have you got any firewall software loaded on your computer?
#1775 [16:06] <Jacers> Just windows firewall
#1776 [16:06] <lastelemental> software not hardware
#1777 [16:06] <SMURFS> intel(R) G965 Express Chipset Family is my chip
#1778 [16:07] <mariettagecko> Jacers: Can you please attempt to temporarily disable your windows firewall? I don't think it should be interfering, but it couldn't hurt to try.
#1779 [16:07] <Jacers> still having the same issue
#1780 [16:07] <SMURFS> anyoen help me
#1781 [16:07] <lastelemental> im looking
#1782 [16:08] <SMURFS> thanks
#1783 [16:08] <SMURFS> its really darn old
#1784 [16:08] <lastelemental> for now smurfs do what they said a bit farther up
#1785 [16:08] <mariettagecko> ??> smurfs gpu/intel
#1786 [16:08] <VoxelHead> smurfs: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1787 [16:09] <mariettagecko> Jacers: So after disabling the firewall, you cannot connect.
#1788 [16:09] <mariettagecko> Jacers: Are you sure you are running the same version of the software as is on the server?
#1789 [16:09] <Jacers> yeah, still says cant reach server, then communication error
#1790 [16:09] <lastelemental> well opengl should be good
#1791 [16:09] <Jacers> I just texted my friend to make sure, but I was on it a few days ago while I was updated to 1.8.1
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#1795 [16:10] <lastelemental> SMURFS try to reinstall the lastest driver
#1796 [16:10] <Guest53258> Is there a way for me to play Minecraft, just me and my girlfriend ?
#1797 [16:10] <Guest53258> Like withouut downloading alot of MP Tools
#1798 [16:10] <lastelemental> on a private server
#1799 [16:10] <mariettagecko> Jacers: Ok, so you have been able to use it, just not recently. Did anything change on your computer around the time it stopped working?
#1800 [16:11] <Guest53258> Just the two of us, no one else
#1801 [16:11] <Guest53258> Where I make the server or we join localhost or something
#1802 [16:11] <mariettagecko> Guest53258: You can set up a private server, especially if you have an extra computer lying around.
#1803 [16:11] <lastelemental> ya
#1804 [16:11] <Guest53258> Hmmm
#1805 [16:11] <Jacers> Guest, download the server client from the minecraft website
#1806 [16:11] <mariettagecko> Make sure you have at least 1 GB of ram in the box.
#1807 [16:11] <lastelemental> what os you using?
#1808 [16:11] <Guest53258> Windows 7
#1809 [16:11] <mariettagecko> Better make that 3GB of RAM
#1810 [16:11] <mariettagecko> or maybe 4
#1811 [16:12] <Guest53258> mmm
#1812 [16:12] <SMURFS> hmmm im trying to look for stuff
#1813 [16:12] <lastelemental> 1GB should be fine for 2 people as long as he'd not playing on the same box
#1814 [16:12] <Guest53258> I got a 4GB Ram Linux
#1815 [16:12] <Jacers> all you do is DL the server client, start it, and connect via your IP
#1816 [16:12] <lastelemental> ya
#1817 [16:12] <mariettagecko> Guest53258: I run an SMP server on an Ubuntu server I'm running at home with just 1 GB of ram, and I host five or six people all told.
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#1819 [16:13] <lastelemental> arch linux wiki has a good guide id say on how to install it
#1820 [16:13] <Guest53258> Cool thanks elemental and Marie :p
#1821 [16:13] <lastelemental> hf
#1822 [16:13] <mariettagecko> Jacers: did you see my question?
#1823 [16:13] <Guest53258> And Jacers ofc
#1824 [16:13] <mariettagecko> Guest53258: yw
#1825 [16:13] <Jacers> I see it now
#1826 [16:13] <Jacers> i didnt change anything
#1827 [16:14] <mariettagecko> hmmm
#1828 [16:14] <mariettagecko> that's odd.
#1829 [16:14] <Jacers> but the server ran pretty bad, would randomly boot me and say it was down
#1830 [16:14] <TheBadShepperd> Can the Minecraft client connect to a IPv6 address? :o
#1831 [16:14] <Jacers> only played on it for maybe 5hours
#1832 [16:14] <mariettagecko> That seems more like a network issue to me.
#1833 [16:14] <mariettagecko> Jacers: do you know what your computer's default gateway is?
#1834 [16:14] <lastelemental> When I press F3 2 red bars progressively move horizontally and vertically covering up only the left half of the screen aany1 know ehy?
#1835 [16:15] <Jacers> the reg 192.168.1.1
#1836 [16:15] <Jacers> f3 is a diagnostic feature
#1837 [16:15] <mariettagecko> lastelemental: That'snormal... Preferably you want them to be green, not red, but yeah/
#1838 [16:15] <lastelemental> to the points where you can't see anything?
#1839 [16:15] <Jacers> if you have a small resolution yeah
#1840 [16:16] <lastelemental> thats a very werid feature
#1841 [16:16] <Jacers> it shows FPS, memory usage
#1842 [16:16] <mariettagecko> lastelemental: it mainly depends on your RAm and processor speed.
#1843 [16:16] <Jacers> but if your screen is too small it just looks like junk
#1844 [16:16] <mariettagecko> lastelemental: the faster your machine, the smaller those bars are.
#1845 [16:16] <Guest53258> Hmmmm... I'm not very good with Linux... Is $ java -jar -Xmx2048M -Xms2048M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui and $ chmod u+x minecraft.jar commands used in the Terminal and does it work on Ubuntu... 9.3 I think
#1846 [16:16] <lastelemental> that would explain why they are so big then
#1847 [16:17] <lastelemental> it should work with ubuntu
#1848 [16:17] <lastelemental> do you have java installed?
#1849 [16:17] <Guest53258> I think so (I have no idea how to use Linux properly)
#1850 [16:17] <lastelemental> and yes they are used in the terminal
#1851 [16:17] <Guest53258> :3
#1852 [16:18] <lastelemental> well they won't blow up your machine if you don't have java installed
#1853 [16:18] <Guest53258> Phew
#1854 [16:18] <lastelemental> and chmod will only do it if you use it very very wrong
#1855 [16:18] <mariettagecko> Guest53258: I would strongly recommend against trying to run both the client and a server on the same machine unless you have massive RAM reserves.
#1856 [16:18] <Guest53258> :D
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#1858 [16:18] <Guest53258> I got my Windows 7 right here
#1859 [16:18] <Guest53258> And my old laptop with 4GB but it's Linux
#1860 [16:18] <lastelemental> he's using 2 boxes
#1861 [16:18] <Guest53258> Running them seperate :3
#1862 [16:19] <CptKeyvan> Is there anyone here I can speak to regarding my payment?
#1863 [16:19] <mariettagecko> Guest53258: also (since I regularly play on Ubuntu), you need to first uninstall Openjava, then reinstall Sun java if you want to be able to play.
#1864 [16:19] <Jacers> no
#1865 [16:19] <Guest53258> 10MB Download and 1.5MB upload, is that enough ?
#1866 [16:19] <Guest53258> --- Reinstall SunJava why?
#1867 [16:19] <Jacers> cptkeyvan read the top right of the screen
#1868 [16:19] <mariettagecko> ??> CptKeyvan payment
#1869 [16:19] <VoxelHead> CptKeyvan: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1870 [16:19] <VoxelHead> CptKeyvan: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1871 [16:19] <lastelemental> openjava works on arch at least
#1872 [16:20] <CptKeyvan> Thanks alot VoxelHead
#1873 [16:20] <mariettagecko> Guest53258: Because mojang is using some sun-specific tools, I suspect.
#1874 [16:20] <mariettagecko> hmmm
#1875 [16:20] <mariettagecko> I wonder...
#1876 [16:21] <Guest53258> :o
#1877 [16:21] <lastelemental> or im pretty sure it does
#1878 [16:21] <Jacers> was there a build between 1.7.3 and 1.8.1?
#1879 [16:21] <Jacers> possibly a 1.8?
#1880 [16:21] <mariettagecko> Ok, yeah, that doesn't work.
#1881 [16:22] <mariettagecko> ??> Guest53258 linux/ubuntu/sun-java
#1882 [16:22] <VoxelHead> Guest53258: (linux/ubuntu/sun-java) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-jre-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
#1883 [16:22] <mariettagecko> yeah, that may not be helpful...
#1884 [16:22] <mariettagecko> Depending on which version you are using.
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#1886 [16:22] <mariettagecko> I ought to go through al of those and see what they all are.
#1887 [16:22] <lastelemental> i love pacman
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#1891 [16:24] <Icedman> umm I have a problem
#1892 [16:24] <Acid20> hey guys
#1893 [16:24] <Acid20> is Wug there?
#1894 [16:24] <Icedman> since 1.8 only very few mobs spawn
#1895 [16:24] <Icedman> ._.
#1896 [16:24] <Icedman> no cows
#1897 [16:24] <Icedman> almost no pigs
#1898 [16:24] <Icedman> some ducks
#1899 [16:25] <Icedman> I didn#t change the difficulty level either
#1900 [16:25] <Icedman> :/
#1901 [16:25] <Icedman> everything else works
#1902 [16:25] <Jacers> be back later
#1903 [16:26] <mariettagecko> Icedman: I haven't run into that problem...
#1904 [16:26] <Icedman> interesting
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#1906 [16:26] <Guest53258> Marie or Elemental how do you normally open a Terminal?
#1907 [16:27] <Guest53258> Remember <--- Super Linux noob
#1908 [16:27] <lastelemental> ubuntu right?
#1909 [16:27] <Guest53258> Yep
#1910 [16:27] <lastelemental> 11.04?
#1911 [16:27] <Icedman> totally weird
#1912 [16:27] <Guest53258> (How do I check)
#1913 [16:27] <mariettagecko> What version
#1914 [16:27] <Icedman> in caves and such there still mobs
#1915 [16:27] <lastelemental> when did you install/update
#1916 [16:27] <Icedman> hm
#1917 [16:27] <Guest53258> 2 months ago
#1918 [16:28] <lastelemental> idk im horible with the launcher
#1919 [16:28] <lastelemental> you can look for the search launcher then type terminal
#1920 [16:28] <lastelemental> in the stupid launcher
#1921 [16:29] <Guest53258> Thought there was a fancy short-cut key or something
#1922 [16:29] <lastelemental> maybe idk unity is what made me move to arch linux
#1923 [16:29] <lastelemental> that and gnome 3
#1924 [16:29] <Guest53258> Arch Linux?
#1925 [16:29] <lastelemental> yes
#1926 [16:29] <lastelemental> diff distro
#1927 [16:29] <Guest53258> Is that like Ubuntu or a community
#1928 [16:29] <mariettagecko> Yeah, I don't use unity yet.
#1929 [16:30] <mariettagecko> I am still on 10.04
#1930 [16:30] <lastelemental> its like ubu in terms of itas a linux os but it's philosophy is the complete opposite
#1931 [16:30] <Icedman> arch linux is a rolling release distro
#1932 [16:30] <Acid20> hey guys, has some1 the mail-adress from Wug?
#1933 [16:30] <Icedman> :P
#1934 [16:30] <Guest53258> Oh
#1935 [16:30] <Icedman> a little bit more difficult to set up than ubuntu
#1936 [16:30] <lastelemental> but so much more fun
#1937 [16:31] <Icedman> and it has the advantage, that you can tweak your system in any way you want
#1938 [16:31] <lastelemental> yup :)
#1939 [16:31] * Icedman has arch too
#1939 [16:31] <lastelemental> just gotta know what to tweak and what not to
#1940 [16:31] <Icedman> MC runs fine on arch
#1941 [16:31] <lastelemental> i can vouch for this
#1942 [16:31] <Icedman> xD
#1943 [16:31] <Guest53258> Okay I'm ready for this... How do I make the $
#1944 [16:31] <Guest53258> go to Minecraft xD
#1945 [16:31] <lastelemental> it runs on arch better than win xp on my box too
#1946 [16:31] <Guest53258> (Sorry for being super annoying)
#1947 [16:31] <lastelemental> only type whats after the $
#1948 [16:31] <Icedman> but damn
#1949 [16:32] <Icedman> mobs y u no spawn
#1950 [16:32] <Icedman> ARF
#1951 [16:32] <Icedman> they do spawn but only very few
#1952 [16:32] <Guest53258> Ohhhhh
#1953 [16:32] <lastelemental> the $ is only there to tell you nwhere code begins
#1954 [16:32] <Guest53258> I run the terminal in .minecraft folder... I see
#1955 [16:32] <Guest53258> :o
#1956 [16:32] <lastelemental> i blame con for making that horrible DE
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#1959 [16:34] <Lolercats> i need halp.
#1960 [16:34] <lastelemental> whith?
#1961 [16:34] <lastelemental> with*
#1962 [16:35] <Acid20> are some admins online?
#1963 [16:35] <onix> cannot load minecraft due to video card
#1964 [16:35] <lastelemental> whats the error message?
#1965 [16:36] <Lolercats> I just went to college, and now I cant dl the update
#1966 [16:36] <lastelemental> any error message?
#1967 [16:36] <Lolercats> do i need to be at home to do it
#1968 [16:36] <Lolercats> ಠ_ಠ
#1969 [16:36] <Lolercats> "login failed" I can play offline though o_o
#1970 [16:36] <onix> failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1971 [16:37] <lastelemental> @onix, lemme guess intel gpu?
#1972 [16:37] <onix> could be, not familiar with guts of computer
#1973 [16:37] <lastelemental> what os do you have?
#1974 [16:37] <onix> windows xp
#1975 [16:38] <lastelemental> damn its been to long can't remember the command
#1976 [16:39] <Icedman> lol
#1977 [16:39] <mariettagecko> dxdiag?
#1978 [16:39] <lastelemental> maybe
#1979 [16:39] <onix> tried to find drivers online, lots of 'buy me' options
#1980 [16:39] <Icedman> but if I create a new world theres plentyo fm obs
#1981 [16:39] <Icedman> wtf
#1982 [16:39] <lastelemental> im too used to linux atm
#1983 [16:39] <Guest53258> How do I navigate into the Minecraft folder ?
#1984 [16:39] <Guest53258> On Linux
#1985 [16:39] <Icedman> so something is wrong with my world
#1986 [16:40] <Icedman> cd *directory*
#1987 [16:40] <Guest53258> ty
#1988 [16:40] <Icedman> same as in windows
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#1990 [16:40] <lastelemental> like $cd /home/INSTER NAME HERE/.minecraft
#1991 [16:40] <Guest53258> In the terminal ?
#1992 [16:40] <Guest53258> OH
#1993 [16:40] <lastelemental> ya
#1994 [16:40] <Guest53258> Ty
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#1997 [16:41] <mib_sxscp3> anyone online
#1998 [16:41] <lastelemental> nop
#1999 [16:41] <mib_sxscp3> k good
#2000 [16:41] <mib_sxscp3> i need help
#2001 [16:41] <lastelemental> what you need?
#2002 [16:41] <Icedman> >_>
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#2004 [16:41] <Icedman> wtf happened
#2005 [16:42] <mib_sxscp3> so i dl mincraft and saved into a new folder
#2006 [16:42] <Acid20> okay. Is there anyone who can tell me whats up with Wug or who has contact to Wug ?! :)
#2007 [16:42] <lastelemental> ya
#2008 [16:42] <mib_sxscp3> everytime i run the program i play for about 5 mins and i get a java (tm) error
#2009 [16:42] <mib_sxscp3> failure 42 ***
#2010 [16:42] <lastelemental> is java up to date?
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#2012 [16:42] <mib_sxscp3> i think so i just dl a new one today
#2013 [16:42] <Guest53258> Hmmm
#2014 [16:43] <Guest53258> so I wanna put the .jar in the .minecraft folder
#2015 [16:43] <mib_sxscp3> let me look at the version
#2016 [16:43] <Guest53258> But it's invisible or something ?
#2017 [16:43] <lastelemental> yes in linux a '.' makes it hidden
#2018 [16:43] <mib_sxscp3> 6.0.270.0 is my java version
#2019 [16:43] <lastelemental> so /.minecraft is hidden
#2020 [16:43] <Guest53258> How can I get the jar into the folder then :s
#2021 [16:43] <lastelemental> you can turn hidden file to visible
#2022 [16:44] <lastelemental> it should be in view or so
#2023 [16:44] * Icedman wants his mobs
#2023 [16:45] <Guest53258> Ehhh
#2024 [16:45] <lastelemental> heh just found out gw2 has bloated creepers
#2025 [16:45] <Guest53258> No idea
#2026 [16:45] <mib_sxscp3> does anyone know if i can use different program to run minecraft?
#2027 [16:45] <Guest53258> How to open it or anything
#2028 [16:45] <lastelemental> do you have the jar file?
#2029 [16:45] <Guest53258> Yep
#2030 [16:45] <Lolercats> I just went to college, and now I cant dl the update, it says "login failed" I can play offline though o_o
#2031 [16:45] <lastelemental> place it in your home folder
#2032 [16:45] <Guest53258> It's in my home folder, but I can't see the .minecraft (Obviously)
#2033 [16:45] <Guest53258> Did :3
#2034 [16:46] <lastelemental> open a terminal and type....
#2035 [16:46] <Guest53258> :O
#2036 [16:46] <lastelemental> mv ~/minecraft.jar ~/.minecraft/minecraft.jar
#2037 [16:46] <lastelemental> that should work
#2038 [16:46] <Lolercats> halp ;{
#2039 [16:46] <Guest53258> Exactly like that ?
#2040 [16:46] <lastelemental> assuming its called minecraft.jar
#2041 [16:46] <Guest53258> My cd is at .minecraft now
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#2043 [16:47] <lastelemental> do cd
#2044 [16:47] <lastelemental> by itself
#2045 [16:47] <Guest53258> O.o
#2046 [16:47] <Guest53258> How to make ~
#2047 [16:47] <lastelemental> that moves it to your home directory
#2048 [16:48] <lastelemental> shift + the button to the left of'1'
#2049 [16:48] <Guest53258> I got a danish keyboard, but I figured it out :D
#2050 [16:48] <lastelemental> o
#2051 [16:48] <Guest53258> Mine's shift ¨
#2052 [16:48] <Guest53258> Alt+gr ¨
#2053 [16:49] <lastelemental> eh im using a qwerty
#2054 [16:49] <lastelemental> you got it?
#2055 [16:50] <Guest53258> yep
#2056 [16:50] <Guest53258> I made it :d
#2057 [16:50] <Guest53258> It put the jar in there
#2058 [16:50] <lastelemental> GJ
#2059 [16:51] <Guest53258> And I made it executable now
#2060 [16:51] <mib_sxscp3> no ideas lastelemental??/ about my piece of crap java?
#2061 [16:51] <lastelemental> none sry
#2062 [16:51] <mib_sxscp3> any other program to run it?
#2063 [16:52] <lastelemental> sun java is the only one that reeally can
#2064 [16:52] <mib_sxscp3> alright
#2065 [16:52] <mib_sxscp3> thanks anyways
#2066 [16:52] <Guest53258> # pacman -S openjdk6 ?
#2067 [16:52] <Guest53258> The # ... I thought it was $
#2068 [16:52] <lastelemental> i don;t think open works it might though
#2069 [16:52] <Guest53258> Install java
#2070 [16:52] <Guest53258> The devs say Sun's java is required but OpenJDK works fine :
#2071 [16:52] <Guest53258> # pacman -S openjdk6
#2072 [16:53] <lastelemental> makes no difference the terminal uses $ but those are just saying where the lines start
#2073 [16:53] <Guest53258> Oh :3
#2074 [16:53] <Guest53258> So I don't have to add a #?
#2075 [16:53] <lastelemental> and pacman is for arch linux not ubuntu
#2076 [16:53] <lastelemental> no
#2077 [16:53] <Guest53258> ?
#2078 [16:53] <Guest53258> So... What should I use?
#2079 [16:53] <lastelemental> for ubu you may want to open synaptic
#2080 [16:54] <lastelemental> or check the software center
#2081 [16:54] <Guest53258> I'm just following the guide on Archwiki :3
#2082 [16:54] <Guest53258> I got OpenJDK I think
#2083 [16:54] <lastelemental> ah ya do a search for synaptic
#2084 [16:54] <Guest53258> My friend got it for me
#2085 [16:54] <Guest53258> kk
#2086 [16:54] <lastelemental> well try mine then
#2087 [16:54] <Guest53258> kk
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#2089 [16:54] <Guest53258> Synaptic Package Manager?
#2090 [16:55] <lastelemental> ya thats the equivilant of pacman
#2091 [16:55] <Guest53258> Already got it :o
#2092 [16:55] <lastelemental> try executing th jar then?
#2093 [16:55] <Guest53258> Oh
#2094 [16:55] <Guest53258> Yeah
#2095 [16:55] <Guest53258> right
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#2098 [16:57] <lastelemental> did it work guest?
#2099 [16:57] <Guest53258> Working on it
#2100 [16:58] <Guest53258> It started :3
#2101 [16:58] <lastelemental> yay
#2102 [16:58] <Guest53258> Alright !
#2103 [16:59] <lastelemental> this is for the server right?
#2104 [16:59] <Guest53258> Thanks for the help... Sorry to ruin your life but ready for part 2 ? :D
#2105 [16:59] <mib_sxscp3> should my minecraft be an exe file?
#2106 [16:59] <Guest53258> It's Single player atm
#2107 [16:59] <lastelemental> ah kk
#2108 [16:59] <lastelemental> no minecraft is a .jar not exe
#2109 [16:59] <lastelemental> afaik
#2110 [17:00] <mib_sxscp3> ummm so ya the one i have is an exe i download it from minecraft.net
#2111 [17:00] <lastelemental> double click it then
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#2113 [17:01] <mib_sxscp3> goes to open file - security warning run or cancel is options i have
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#2115 [17:02] <lastelemental> www.minecraft.net right? if so yea windows has that for everything
#2116 [17:02] <mib_sxscp3> ok so that part is fine... then its still my java thats shit
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#2118 [17:02] <lastelemental> i doubt mojang is adding malware to the files
#2119 [17:03] <lastelemental> install the latest version of sun java
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#2121 [17:03] <mib_sxscp3> should i delete the old java or after i install the new version i should take over.???
#2122 [17:03] <mib_sxscp3> it should***
#2123 [17:04] <lastelemental> not sure if its windows it should overwrite the older version
#2124 [17:04] <mib_sxscp3> k
#2125 [17:05] <Damein> does he need javara to overwrite it?
#2126 [17:05] <lastelemental> either he has java (it will be overwritten) or he dosn't(it will be installed)
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#2128 [17:05] <Damein> ok
#2129 [17:05] <lastelemental> no you need java to install java here
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#2131 [17:06] <Damein> also could i get some help setting up a server using portforward
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#2133 [17:06] <mr_sticky> is there a link to a 1.7.3 .jar so i can play minecraft until 1.9 comes out?
#2134 [17:07] <Damein> why wouldnt you want to play 1.8?
#2135 [17:07] <mr_sticky> my computer isnt good enough so it doesnt work
#2136 [17:07] <mr_sticky> and i heard it will work on 1.9
#2137 [17:07] <Damein> from who?
#2138 [17:07] <lastelemental> doesn't seem to be any official ones
#2139 [17:07] <mr_sticky> the AuBot when i entered this chat
#2140 [17:08] <Damein> voxel?
#2141 [17:08] <mr_sticky> so do you have the 1.7.3 .jar file that i can use?
#2142 [17:08] <TheNytangel> ??> lastelemental virus
#2143 [17:08] <VoxelHead> lastelemental: (virus) There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.
#2144 [17:08] <VoxelHead> lastelemental: (virus) For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
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#2146 [17:08] <Icedman> -_-
#2147 [17:08] <lastelemental> huh didn't know that
#2148 [17:09] <lastelemental> < doesn't use win anymore
#2149 [17:09] <Icedman> does anyone else have a mob spawning problem?
#2150 [17:09] <TheNytangel> ??< index
#2151 [17:09] <Guest53258> :s
#2152 [17:09] <Icedman> like only very few mobs?
#2153 [17:09] <mr_sticky> damein so do you have one?
#2154 [17:09] <Guest53258> I can't move the Minecraft_server.exe into to .minecraft folder
#2155 [17:09] <lastelemental> i notice fewer mobs in mine than in youtube videos but i blame it on luck
#2156 [17:09] <Damein> me no i dont have any link to 1.7.3 maybe nytangel can help you
#2157 [17:09] <lastelemental> have you tried the mv command with it?
#2158 [17:10] <Guest53258> I wrote mv ~Minecraft_server.exe ~/.minecraft/Minecraft_server.exe
#2159 [17:10] <mr_sticky> nytangel do you have a link to a download of 1.7.3 .jar?
#2160 [17:10] <Guest53258> Where should my $ be?
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#2162 [17:10] <Guest53258> HOME or ?
#2163 [17:10] <TheNytangel> mr_sticky, no, it is illegal to give out an earlier version of minecraft
#2164 [17:11] <mr_sticky> why should it be if im waiting here with a broken minecraft?
#2165 [17:11] <lastelemental> your $? for that command just do cd by itself
#2166 [17:11] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, it doesn't go in your .minecraft folder
#2167 [17:11] <TheNytangel> mr_sticky, just update your minecraft
#2168 [17:11] <lastelemental> he's right
#2169 [17:11] <mr_sticky> 1.8 or 1.8.1 dosnt work on my computer! its 10.5.6
#2170 [17:12] <TheNytangel> mr_sticky, how is it broken?
#2171 [17:12] <lastelemental> the archlinux page is good
#2172 [17:12] <Guest53258> Says: mv: cannot stat `/home/name/Minecraft_server.exe': No such file or directory
#2173 [17:12] <lastelemental> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Minecraft#Minecraft_Server
#2174 [17:12] <lastelemental> under server
#2175 [17:12] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, just put the minecraft_server.exe in a folder on your desktop or something, then run it
#2176 [17:12] <mr_sticky> my computer is an old version so it doesnt work 10.5.6 macs and below dont work
#2177 [17:12] <Icedman> arch rules *_*
#2178 [17:12] <Guest24372> ok i am using portforward and its saying to type my external ip in the adress bar but its saying its not availible
#2179 [17:12] <Guest53258> wit
#2180 [17:12] <Guest53258> wut
#2181 [17:13] <Guest53258> It says just run the jarfile, but I got a exe?
#2182 [17:13] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, there is a choice between them..
#2183 [17:13] <Guest53258> I fail
#2184 [17:13] <lastelemental> did you do the right download?
#2185 [17:13] <Guest53258> So hard omfg, I got the windows
#2186 [17:13] <TheNytangel> Guest24372, if you get teamviewer I can help you
#2187 [17:13] <lastelemental> lol
#2188 [17:13] <Guest53258> Sorry xD
#2189 [17:13] <TheNytangel> ??> Guest24372 teamviewer
#2190 [17:13] <VoxelHead> Guest24372: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#2191 [17:13] <VoxelHead> Guest24372: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2192 [17:14] <mr_sticky> nytangel can you help me or not?
#2193 [17:14] <mib_sxscp3> i hope this works i went to my control panel and went to programs i had 3 java's one was java 6 update 20, another was update 27, and one was java se runtime somthing
#2194 [17:14] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, just place the .exe file in a folder on your desktop then, and run it from there. You don't put it in the .minecraft folder
#2195 [17:14] <Guest53258> Teamviewer is legit
#2196 [17:14] <TheNytangel> mr_sticky, how is your minecraft broken
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#2198 [17:14] <Guest53258> NytAngel, I got Linux, so I got the wrong file :3
#2199 [17:14] <Damein> is teamviewer something like logmein?
#2200 [17:14] <mib_sxscp3> so i removed the 2 older ones
#2201 [17:14] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, -_-
#2202 [17:14] <mr_sticky> i just said 1.8 and 1.8.1 doesnt work on old computers like mine
#2203 [17:15] <TheNytangel> mr_sticky, how is your 1.7.3 broken
#2204 [17:15] <lastelemental> how old is your comp?
#2205 [17:15] <mr_sticky> it isnt i just need 1.7.3 until they fix it
#2206 [17:15] <Damein> ok me and guest 24372 are trying to set up a server how do we go about this?
#2207 [17:15] <Guest53258> xD
#2208 [17:15] <TheNytangel> mr_sticky, well no one has it or should have it, it is illegal to distribute any copies of minecraft
#2209 [17:16] <TheNytangel> Damein, if you also get teamviewer I can help you too
#2210 [17:16] <lastelemental> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Minecraft#Minecraft_Server
#2211 [17:16] <TheNytangel> !server
#2212 [17:16] <mr_sticky> you should be giving it out because there are so many people with this problem
#2213 [17:16] <TheNytangel> mr_sticky, no, it is illegal. Like I said.
#2214 [17:16] <lastelemental> you need to contact mojang for that
#2215 [17:16] <mr_sticky> when does 1.9 come out?
#2216 [17:17] <TheNytangel> mr_sticky, when it does
#2217 [17:17] <lastelemental> yup
#2218 [17:17] <lastelemental> it is supposed to go stable in nov though
#2219 [17:17] <mr_sticky> wow you are of no help
#2220 [17:17] <Guest53258> xD
#2221 [17:17] <TheNytangel> mr_sticky, we did help.. it's no use now
#2222 [17:18] <TheNytangel> We aren't mojang, don't know when updates come out until they give a release date, can't distribute minecraft.. when will people learn..
#2223 [17:18] <Guest53258> It's like LoL "When will the next patch come" everybody on the forums troll and answer Soon
#2224 [17:18] <lastelemental> Guest/Damein still need help?
#2225 [17:19] <TheNytangel> Damein and Guest24372, if you want to send me your teamviewer ID's and passwords, I can help you set up the server/port forward
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#2227 [17:19] <Kaito> clouds travel north, yes?
#2228 [17:20] <TheNytangel> Kaito, yes
#2229 [17:20] <Guest24372> ok well its just the port forwarding we dont get
#2230 [17:20] <Kaito> okay
#2231 [17:20] <Kaito> thank you
#2232 [17:20] <Kaito> i heard someone say they travel west
#2233 [17:20] <TheNytangel> Guest24372, I specialize in that ;)
#2234 [17:20] <lastelemental> well it seems Ny is more compitent than I so I'm gonna take a step back
#2235 [17:20] <Kaito> O.o
#2236 [17:20] <Guest53258> :(
#2237 [17:20] <Kaito> whats -q?
#2238 [17:20] <TheNytangel> lastelemental, while I'm teamviewering, feel free to help because I don't check IRC while doing that :P
#2239 [17:20] <Guest53258> Well I'm gonna try the last command and see If I can run the Minecraft server :p
#2240 [17:20] <Guest24372> ok when we go to port forward it tells us to enter our ip adress in the search bar
#2241 [17:20] <TheNytangel> Kaito, he quieted you then unquieted you
#2242 [17:21] <Kaito> oh, woops
#2243 [17:21] <lastelemental> ya im not leaving just not paying as much attention
#2244 [17:21] <TheNytangel> Guest24372, just get teamviewer and pm me your ID and pass..
#2245 [17:21] <lastelemental> i need another monitor for irc
#2246 [17:22] <Guest53258> If I got 4GB Ram
#2247 [17:22] <Guest53258> Is it 4096M?
#2248 [17:22] <Guest53258> For the Linux RAM stuff command
#2249 [17:22] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, I think so, you can also check google...
#2250 [17:22] <lastelemental> yes 1024 * 4
#2251 [17:22] <Guest53258> Or can I say like 3500 ?
#2252 [17:22] <Guest53258> Or does it have to be binary
#2253 [17:22] <Guest53258> w/e
#2254 [17:22] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, yeah, just do 2 orr something
#2255 [17:22] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, how much RAM do you have in total?
#2256 [17:23] <Guest53258> 4GB
#2257 [17:23] <lastelemental> do something like 2048
#2258 [17:23] <Guest53258> Okay :3
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#2260 [17:23] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, it won't start with 4 then.. you should do 1 or 1.5.. or else it won't have enough memory to start
#2261 [17:23] <Guest53258> Okay :o
#2262 [17:23] <lastelemental> he's using 2 boxes for the server and to play
#2263 [17:24] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, every program takes up RAM, your server could take up 1 or 2 GB, MC takes up 1 GB, that leaves 1 for other programs like your internet, or IRC chat, or anything else
#2264 [17:24] <Damein> ok im back sorry bout that so i was told by a person named thrae to use portforwarding to set up a server is that easier than teamviewer?
#2265 [17:24] <TheNytangel> Damein, I will use teamviewer and port forward for you
#2266 [17:25] <lastelemental> teamviewer allows Ny to help you do it more easily
#2267 [17:25] <TheNytangel> lastelemental, it is pronounced "The Night Angel"
#2268 [17:25] <Damein> o ok sweet so follow the link?
#2269 [17:25] <lastelemental> eh Ny is easier
#2270 [17:25] <TheNytangel> ??> Damein teamviewer
#2271 [17:25] <VoxelHead> Damein: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#2272 [17:25] <VoxelHead> Damein: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2273 [17:25] <Guest53258> Lastelemnetal
#2274 [17:25] <lastelemental> ?
#2275 [17:25] <Guest53258> Fail sorry, I made the server.jar run
#2276 [17:26] <Guest53258> Hmmm how can I do stuff and ... stuff
#2277 [17:26] <lastelemental> ?
#2278 [17:26] <Damein> it says this can harm your computer do i download it?
#2279 [17:26] <TheNytangel> lastelemental, if I had the cord, I could use my TV as a second monitor :P
#2280 [17:26] <TheNytangel> Damein, it won't harm your computer, and yes download it
#2281 [17:26] <Damein> kk
#2282 [17:26] <Guest53258> Using my 48" HD Samsung to play on
#2283 [17:26] <lastelemental> eh my parents wouln't like it if I took the flat screen and its in a another room
#2284 [17:27] <TheNytangel> lastelemental, we have a 32" in each of our bedrooms and a 64" in our basement
#2285 [17:27] <TheNytangel> Damein, /msg thenytangel id pass
#2286 [17:27] <Damein> it says use it for personal or commercial use which one?
#2287 [17:27] <lastelemental> this comp is in my house's dining room sadly so i can't connect it to my tv
#2288 [17:27] <TheNytangel> Damein, personal
#2289 [17:27] <Guest53258> I started the server
#2290 [17:27] <TheNytangel> lastelemental, me and my sister each have a desktop and a laptop :P
#2291 [17:27] <Guest53258> Can I just join my local IP ?
#2292 [17:28] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, YOU use 127.0.0.1 or localhost
#2293 [17:28] <Guest53258> Sweet :o
#2294 [17:28] <Damein> ok so how do i message you nyt?
#2295 [17:28] <Guest53258> And my girlfriend ?
#2296 [17:28] <TheNytangel> Damein, /msg thenytangel id pass
#2297 [17:28] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, is she in the same house?
#2298 [17:28] <Guest53258> Can she use Localhost too?
#2299 [17:28] <lastelemental> i have this desktop and a 20something yr old ibm laptop and no other comp
#2300 [17:28] <Guest53258> Yeh
#2301 [17:28] <Guest53258> Next to me
#2302 [17:29] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, you did 'ipconfig' in the command prompt, right?
#2303 [17:29] <Guest53258> Yeah
#2304 [17:29] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, she uses the Default address
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#2306 [17:29] <Damein> did you get it nyt?
#2307 [17:29] <Guest53258> Ahhh standard lol
#2308 [17:29] <Guest53258> kk thanks :3
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#2310 [17:29] <TheNytangel> Damein, yeah
#2311 [17:29] <Damein> ok so now what?
#2312 [17:30] <Guest53258> It doesn't want to connect :s
#2313 [17:30] <Guest24372> damein invite me to your party
#2314 [17:31] <wiwi> Hello all, Somebody to help me?
#2315 [17:31] <lastelemental> ask the question
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#2317 [17:31] <wiwi> I have a problem with my premium account. Since 1.8 error message " user not premium ". The question is that do I have to make?
#2318 [17:32] <lastelemental> you should contact mojang about that
#2319 [17:32] <lastelemental> not much we can do
#2320 [17:32] <mib_sxscp3> this is bullshit i paid and download minecraft and every 5 mins i play the game this is what my java does
#2321 [17:32] <lastelemental> you should realize minecraft is still in beta
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#2323 [17:33] <mib_sxscp3> console opened at 17:28:52 21-sep-11 CreateRmSysmemSurface: __glNvRmAllocMemory64 failed 42
#2324 [17:33] <lastelemental> its not 100% stable yet
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#2327 [17:34] <mib_sxscp3> no ideas????
#2328 [17:34] <Guest53258> Lastelemental, how do I know if my server is running?
#2329 [17:34] <TheNytangel> mib_sxscp3, please wait a couple minutes
#2330 [17:34] <Guest53258> Because I can't connect from my main box :s
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#2332 [17:34] <mib_sxscp3> ok
#2333 [17:34] <wiwi> isn't bullshit ^^. I have a licence
#2334 [17:34] <mib_sxscp3> just eating some spaggetti
#2335 [17:34] <lastelemental> Guest Im not 100% sure i haven't done it yet, try connecting to it
#2336 [17:34] <Guest53258> I tried
#2337 [17:35] <mchugh21> im always lagging in 1.8 on minecraft but when i had 1.7.3 i could play on the highest settings does any 1 know what i can do?
#2338 [17:35] <lastelemental> and it failed?
#2339 [17:36] <Guest53258> Yeah
#2340 [17:36] <Coll> hope notch makes it less laggy or get a better computer
#2341 [17:36] <Guest53258> I set it up on Linux and it's running in the terminal
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#2343 [17:36] <mchugh21> im over the specs
#2344 [17:36] <Guest53258> But I can't connect :s
#2345 [17:36] <lastelemental> once again minecraft is in beta
#2346 [17:37] <Guest53258> ;(
#2347 [17:37] <lastelemental> not sure im bad when it comes to thouse things id say wait for nyt
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#2349 [17:37] <mchugh21> cpu 2.2ghz times by 3 Ram is 4GB Gpu is ATI Radeon HD 3200
#2350 [17:37] <lastelemental> sry
#2351 [17:37] <Guest53258> How do I run ipconfig on Linux without shutting down the terminal for the server?
#2352 [17:37] <lastelemental> weak gpu
#2353 [17:38] <lastelemental> cpu should be good though
#2354 [17:38] <mchugh21> ye but
#2355 [17:38] <Damein> !server
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#2357 [17:38] <mchugh21> i use to run it in high detail on 1.7.3 with no lagg
#2358 [17:38] <mchugh21> and mods were installed then as well
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#2360 [17:38] <Ughah542> how come you cant craft double slabs
#2361 [17:38] <mchugh21> but now i have no mods im on low settings and i lagg
#2362 [17:38] <Guest24372> damein did it work
#2363 [17:38] <mib_sxscp3> brb this game frustration makes me smoke alot
#2364 [17:39] <lastelemental> open a new 1
#2365 [17:39] <Ughah542> if an enderman takes a piece of my double slab wall i have to break the whole column above to build from down to up
#2366 [17:39] <lastelemental> you can have an infinate number of terminals open
#2367 [17:39] <wiwi> I don't find where i can contact Mojang...
#2368 [17:39] <Ughah542> anyone know why ?
#2369 [17:39] <Guest53258> kk
#2370 [17:39] <Guest53258> but what command
#2371 [17:39] <Guest53258> :d
#2372 [17:39] <Ughah542> I dont see it as being hard to add theres already an item id for it in creative mode
#2373 [17:39] <lastelemental> ive never done an ipconfig before so hold on
#2374 [17:39] <Ughah542> item 43
#2375 [17:39] <Ughah542> i wanna be able to craft it
#2376 [17:40] <mchugh21> can i not give minecraft more ram
#2377 [17:40] <Ughah542> any threads on this particular suggestion
#2378 [17:40] <mchugh21> like allcoate to it
#2379 [17:40] <mchugh21> because every 1 says that helps to lagg less
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#2382 [17:42] <lastelemental> guest try ifconfig
#2383 [17:42] <lastelemental> err sudo ifconfig
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#2386 [17:42] <Guest53258> sudo ipconfig?
#2387 [17:42] <kidweird> hey can any one help me out with a bit of card trouble
#2388 [17:43] <mchugh21> will this help me lagg less http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html
#2389 [17:43] <lastelemental> intel?
#2390 [17:43] <kidweird> no as in debit card
#2391 [17:43] <kidweird> I have the system requirements
#2392 [17:43] <lastelemental> o wrong room
#2393 [17:43] <lastelemental> err nvm
#2394 [17:45] <TheNytangel> Back
#2395 [17:45] <TheNytangel> And everyone left
#2396 [17:45] <Guest53258> :D
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#2432 [17:45] <TheNytangel> O boy
#2433 [17:45] <Guest53258> I'm still here if you like me
#2434 [17:45] <TheNytangel> They're back
#2435 [17:45] <lastelemental> that was interesting
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#2437 [17:46] <TheNytangel> lastelemental, I port forwarded for him, went on his server, took all the stuff that they had in the NPC village they inhabitted, and left :)
#2438 [17:46] <Damein> what?
#2439 [17:47] <Damein> lol
#2440 [17:47] <TheNytangel> Damein, nothing........
#2441 [17:47] <TheNytangel> Fu Vo
#2442 [17:47] <TheNytangel> Vox*
#2443 [17:47] <Guest53258> Okay I got connection now!
#2444 [17:47] <Damein> its all right lol as long as me and brent/guest can play together
#2445 [17:47] <Guest53258> But... Every block I destroy respawns ?
#2446 [17:47] <lastelemental> is voxelhead a user or a bot?
#2447 [17:47] <TheNytangel> Damein, you just don't have iron armor, your iron ingots.. and everything else in thoses chests :)
#2448 [17:47] <Guest53258> Do I have heavy lag or?
#2449 [17:47] <TheNytangel> lastelemental, bot
#2450 [17:47] <lastelemental> ah
#2451 [17:48] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, spawn protection?
#2452 [17:48] <Guest53258> Maybe :o
#2453 [17:48] <Guest53258> hah you're good
#2454 [17:49] <lastelemental> yes Nyt is
#2455 [17:49] <Guest53258> Hmmm is it possible for others to join the server? Long distance
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#2458 [17:49] <lastelemental> should be
#2459 [17:49] <hrosen> hi
#2460 [17:49] <Damein> alright also my friend brent tried joining the server but he says it not up
#2461 [17:49] <hrosen> I have a problem
#2462 [17:49] <lastelemental> ?
#2463 [17:49] <mib_sxscp3> hey nytangel figure anything out for my situtation?
#2464 [17:49] <hrosen> I can't play classic, no matter what I do
#2465 [17:50] <TheNytangel> Guest53258, yeah
#2466 [17:50] <HondaDude> i can't log onto the minecraft server? is it down for some reason?
#2467 [17:50] <andrewkm> Can someone please look into my start line. I am getting some block lag at 70 online. http://pastebin.com/JZzuWrsR (E1280 cpu, 16GB ram 1gbit connection)
#2468 [17:50] <TheNytangel> mib_sxscp3, repeat it
#2469 [17:50] <hrosen> Can someone help me?
#2470 [17:51] <lastelemental> mib can't play due to java and wants to revert i believe
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#2472 [17:52] <Guest53258> Nytangel, if I sit somewhere that isn't my house, how can I connect to my server ?
#2473 [17:53] <Guest24372> i am trying to join dameins server but its down
#2474 [17:54] <Damein> nyt i have that server up and he says its not and he cant connect why?
#2475 [17:54] <lastelemental> i suck with servers so much
#2476 [17:55] <lemon-rev> Damein type !check
#2477 [17:55] <hrosen> !check
#2478 [17:55] <hrosen> :o
#2479 [17:55] <hrosen> !check
#2480 [17:55] <hrosen> :o
#2481 [17:55] <hrosen> what is this?
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#2483 [17:55] <Damein> nvm he got on he just needed to type my server ip 99.239.blahg blah
#2484 [17:55] <lemon-rev> stop spamming the bot
#2485 [17:55] <hrosen> the "things look grim"
#2486 [17:55] <lastelemental> checks internet connection i think
#2487 [17:55] <Damein> not 127.0.0.1
#2488 [17:56] <hrosen> !HI
#2489 [17:56] <hrosen> sorry
#2490 [17:56] <lemon-rev> brosen its to check if you have a workable server line
#2491 [17:56] <hrosen> ok... and i like brosen
#2492 [17:56] <lemon-rev> 127 is your host lol
#2493 [17:56] <hrosen> sounds cool
#2494 [17:56] <Damein> thank you all is there anyplace where i can like boost nytangels reputation or something?
#2495 [17:56] <mib_sxscp3> console opened at 17:28:52 21-sep-11 CreateRmSysmemSurface: __glNvRmAllocMemory64 failed 42
#2496 [17:56] <Damein> yea i figured that out lol i wasnt thinking
#2497 [17:56] <mib_sxscp3> thats for you nytangel
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#2500 [17:57] <Damein> THANK YOU THENYTANGEL
#2501 [17:57] <lastelemental> poor Nyt being abused this much
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#2503 [17:57] <TheNytangel> lastelemental, I'm playing MC.. :P
#2504 [17:58] <mib_sxscp3> not trying to be rude to him lol but i do appreicate his help
#2505 [17:58] <Remmon> Hi all
#2506 [17:58] <TheNytangel> mib_sxscp3, you should allocate more memory to the launcher
#2507 [17:58] <lemon-rev> WTF 1.9 snowmen lol, dammit keeps brining more mobs in
#2508 [17:58] <TheNytangel> Wug, give him your launcher
#2509 [17:58] <Damein> wait my friend joined my server and everything but then it said connection lost do i put him on the op list and white list?
#2510 [17:59] <lastelemental> op just gives him power and white just makes sure he's not blocked
#2511 [18:00] <Damein> thenytangel you actually took my iron and stuff outta my chest lol i thought you were joking
#2512 [18:00] <lastelemental> lol
#2513 [18:00] <TheNytangel> Damein, no
#2514 [18:00] <lastelemental> thats his payment
#2515 [18:00] <TheNytangel> Damein, I don't joke :P
#2516 [18:00] <Damein> lol
#2517 [18:01] <lastelemental> you didn't think help on this channel was free right?
#2518 [18:01] <Damein> ok my friend keeps getting connection lost do i do anything to make it so it doesnt happen?
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#2520 [18:01] <Damein> lol
#2521 [18:02] <mib_sxscp3> Nyt am i waiting for Wug? with a launcher?
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#2523 [18:02] <hrosen> Can someone answer my question please???
#2524 [18:02] <mib_sxscp3> yes
#2525 [18:02] <TheNytangel> mib_sxscp3, hold on a sec
#2526 [18:02] <mib_sxscp3> there i just answered it
#2527 [18:02] <hrosen> I need help, I want to play classic mode, but it WILL NOT WORK. I have tried EVERYTHING.
#2528 [18:02] <mib_sxscp3> j/k
#2529 [18:03] <Damein> lastelemental
#2530 [18:03] <Guest24372> im trying to join dameins server but i get on and play for a couple of minutes and it says connection lost
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#2532 [18:03] <lastelemental> ?
#2533 [18:04] * lastelemental was afk
#2533 [18:04] <hrosen> I am really losing hope in this IRC.
#2534 [18:04] <mib_sxscp3> 257ms my ping?
#2535 [18:04] <lastelemental> whats your quest
#2536 [18:04] <hrosen> Who?
#2537 [18:04] <Damein> my friend (guest) wants to join my server he does it then it says connection lost is there any way top fix it?
#2538 [18:04] <lastelemental> you
#2539 [18:04] <hrosen> lastelemental, are you a "helper"?
#2540 [18:04] <lastelemental> sry D im not good with server based stuff
#2541 [18:04] <lastelemental> I'm a me
#2542 [18:05] <lastelemental> I help with what i can
#2543 [18:05] <hrosen> I dont know what to do about my minecraft, I cant play Classic, and i REALLY want to.
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#2545 [18:05] <hrosen> I get whitescreens
#2546 [18:05] <lastelemental> buy the beta? idk i can't get classic working either
#2547 [18:05] <hrosen> every time
#2548 [18:05] <hrosen> i have beta
#2549 [18:05] <lastelemental> play the beta?
#2550 [18:05] <mib_sxscp3> lol
#2551 [18:06] <hrosen> Does anyone have a beta freebuild server? or know one?
#2552 [18:06] <hrosen> thats all i want
#2553 [18:06] <Guest24372> can anybody help me with connection lost to server stuff
#2554 [18:06] <lastelemental> sry if im no help like i said i can't get classic working either
#2555 [18:07] <TheNytangel> mib_sxscp3, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XSKGMQH2
#2556 [18:07] <mib_sxscp3> ty ill give that a try
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#2558 [18:08] <TheNytangel> hrosen, do you have java?
#2559 [18:08] <hrosen> Yes
#2560 [18:08] <hrosen> of course
#2561 [18:08] <hrosen> :)
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#2563 [18:09] <helpme1234> how do you update the video card drivers seeing as it tells me that i have a bad video card driver?
#2564 [18:09] <mib_sxscp3> hey Nyt should i do a force update when i load minecraft???
#2565 [18:09] <lastelemental> do you know what your card is?
#2566 [18:09] <helpme1234> uhm idk how to tell that?
#2567 [18:09] <lastelemental> what operating system do you use?
#2568 [18:09] <helpme1234> windows
#2569 [18:10] <lastelemental> 7 or xp?
#2570 [18:10] <helpme1234> xp
#2571 [18:10] <lastelemental> You can find out some info about it by going into the Device Manager. Right click My Computer> Properties> Hardware> Device Manager. Expand the folder labeled Display Adapters. Your Card should be listed there
#2572 [18:10] <helpme1234> hello?
#2573 [18:10] <lastelemental> courtesy of http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080705202221AABr1Z8
#2574 [18:11] <lastelemental> hello
#2575 [18:11] <TheNytangel> mib_sxscp3, sure
#2576 [18:11] <helpme1234> thank you ill try that. one second
#2577 [18:12] <lastelemental> and don't expect help on irc to be instant we are mostly humans not watson
#2578 [18:12] <Guest24372> ok i try and join my friend dameins server and i play for awhile then it says connection lost java.net socket exception
#2579 [18:12] <helpme1234> ok lastelemantel
#2580 [18:12] <helpme1234> mental**
#2581 [18:14] <Damein> is thenytangel available to help me since elmental cant
#2582 [18:14] <TheNytangel> Damein, with what
#2583 [18:14] <lastelemental> :}
#2584 [18:15] * mib_c3ttak [mib_c3ttak@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2585 [18:15] <lastelemental> helpme got it yet?
#2586 [18:15] <mib_c3ttak> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 21/09/11 02:34 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.6.0_27, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc. LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)] org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not creat
#2587 [18:15] <helpme1234> what do i do when i get their
#2588 [18:15] <Damein> my friend joins the server and he gets connection lost after a while can i fix that?
#2589 [18:15] <TheNytangel> ??> mib_c3ttak pastebin
#2590 [18:15] <VoxelHead> mib_c3ttak: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2591 [18:15] <mib_c3ttak> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not create context at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsContextImplementation.nCreate(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsContextImplementation.create(WindowsContextImplementation.java:50) at org.lwjgl.opengl.Context.<init>(Context.java:120) at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.create(Display.java:858) at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.creat
#2592 [18:15] <TheNoodle> ...
#2593 [18:16] <helpme1234> no not yet
#2594 [18:16] <lastelemental> do you see anything like nvidia, gefore, radeon, amd or intel?
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#2596 [18:17] <helpme1234> huh?
#2597 [18:17] <Guest24372> can you help me and damein
#2598 [18:17] <lastelemental> hold on, its been awhile since ive used windoes
#2599 [18:18] <Damein> thenytangel can you help me?
#2600 [18:18] <lastelemental> in the whiter part of the device manager it should have listed things like 'modem' try to find the words graphics or video
#2601 [18:18] <TheNytangel> Damein, with what
#2602 [18:19] <helpme1234> ok i found modems
#2603 [18:19] <lastelemental> kk find video or graphics and click the '+' sign to the left of it
#2604 [18:19] <Damein> my friend joins server and then after a bit it says connection lost
#2605 [18:20] * mib_vjx5xx [mib_vjx5xx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2606 [18:20] <Damein> thenytangel?
#2607 [18:20] <TheNytangel> Damein
#2608 [18:20] <helpme1234> what do you mean find video or graphics? do i click on modems
#2609 [18:20] <TheNytangel> That is his connection
#2610 [18:20] <mib_vjx5xx> what is an al error?
#2611 [18:21] <Damein> anyway to fix his connection thenytangel
#2612 [18:21] <lastelemental> the picture im using has it as "Sound, Video, and game controllers
#2613 [18:21] <TheNytangel> Damein, get better internet
#2614 [18:21] <Damein> lol ive told him that too
#2615 [18:21] <Damein> me?
#2616 [18:21] <lastelemental> and forget about the modem now
#2617 [18:22] <TheNytangel> Damein, possibly you too maybe
#2618 [18:22] <helpme1234> ok i found sound, video etc. what now?
#2619 [18:22] <lastelemental> click the + sign to the left of it
#2620 [18:22] <mib_vjx5xx> what is an al error and how do i fix it
#2621 [18:22] <mib_vjx5xx> ???\
#2622 [18:22] <Damein> thenytangel im with bell how do i better my internet ask for more gb download per month?
#2623 [18:22] <TheNytangel> Damein, don't know
#2624 [18:23] <helpme1234> ok what now?
#2625 [18:23] <lastelemental> then look for nvidia, geforce, amd, ati, radeon, or intel
#2626 [18:23] <Damein> thenytangel also my friend is with aurocom (dont know who that is)
#2627 [18:23] <lastelemental> that will be your graphics
#2628 [18:23] <Guest24372> when i connect to dameins server it says something about java.net socket thenytangel
#2629 [18:23] <Damein> ok
#2630 [18:23] <TheNytangel> Guest24372, that is your client..
#2631 [18:23] <mib_vjx5xx> WHAT IS AN AL ERROR?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
#2632 [18:23] <lastelemental> mib calm down
#2633 [18:23] <Damein> what do you mean client?
#2634 [18:24] <helpme1234> i cant find it? is their a way i can skype you so i can show you exactly what i am doing?
#2635 [18:24] <lastelemental> its what you access the game through
#2636 [18:24] <helpme1234> cause i dont understand this
#2637 [18:24] <TheNytangel> ??> Guest24372 forceupdate
#2638 [18:24] <VoxelHead> Guest24372: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2639 [18:24] <VoxelHead> Guest24372: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2640 [18:24] <lastelemental> don't have skype sry
#2641 [18:25] <helpme1234> ok well i cant click the + sign on my thingy
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#2643 [18:25] <lastelemental> ? why not?
#2644 [18:25] <Damein> also i cant use commands like /tp (player name) (player name)
#2645 [18:25] <lastelemental> it should urn to a - after 1 click
#2646 [18:25] <TheNytangel> Damein, you need to add yourself to the op list
#2647 [18:25] <curtzilla> uh i need help with my minecraft
#2648 [18:25] <Damein> wheres the op list?
#2649 [18:25] <helpme1234> well like when i click on it it goes back to the screen where i was before
#2650 [18:26] <TheNytangel> Damein, in the server folder
#2651 [18:26] <curtzilla> my minecraft keeps crashing on me
#2652 [18:26] <lastelemental> hey Nyt can you upload pics to pastebin?
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#2654 [18:26] <TheNytangel> lastelemental, no. We use imgur.com
#2655 [18:26] <lastelemental> kk
#2656 [18:26] <helpme1234> so what should i do?
#2657 [18:26] <Damein> it just says minecraft_server what you made
#2658 [18:27] <lastelemental> helpme can you upload that screen after clicking the + to imgur.com?
#2659 [18:27] <TheNytangel> Damein, in that folder, there should be an ops.txt
#2660 [18:27] <helpme1234> ok lemme try
#2661 [18:27] <TheNytangel> Damein, did you uninstall teamviewer already?
#2662 [18:27] <lastelemental> and then paste the url here or pm it to me
#2663 [18:27] <helpme1234> how do upload it to imgur/
#2664 [18:27] <helpme1234> ??
#2665 [18:27] <Damein> no it doesnt but there is ops on my desktop that the one
#2666 [18:28] <TheNytangel> Damein, did you uninstall teamviewer already?
#2667 [18:28] <lastelemental> 1sec
#2668 [18:28] <helpme1234> kk
#2669 [18:28] <TheNytangel> helpme1234, www.imgur.com
#2670 [18:28] <TheNytangel> helpme1234, just click the upload button -_-
#2671 [18:28] <helpme1234> ok
#2672 [18:29] <lastelemental> hit prt scr then open paint hit crtl v save then upload that
#2673 [18:29] <lastelemental> with the window open
#2674 [18:29] <Damein> yes but i found the ops list its on my desktop should i install teamviewer again?
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#2676 [18:29] <Damein> thenytangel
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#2678 [18:29] <helpme1234> huh?
#2679 [18:30] <lastelemental> hit prt scr then open paint hit crtl v save then upload that
#2680 [18:30] <TheNytangel> Damein, yes, that isn't where the ops.txt should be
#2681 [18:30] <lastelemental> with the window open
#2682 [18:30] <curtzilla> someone help me?
#2683 [18:30] <TheNytangel> Damein, download teamviewer
#2684 [18:30] <Damein> kk can i have link again?
#2685 [18:30] <Damein> thenytangel
#2686 [18:30] <helpme1234> hold on lemme try
#2687 [18:31] <TheNytangel> ??? Damein teamviewer
#2688 [18:31] <TheNytangel> ??> Damein teamviewer
#2689 [18:31] <VoxelHead> Damein: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#2690 [18:31] <VoxelHead> Damein: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2691 [18:31] <lastelemental> help hold on need to feed dogs
#2692 [18:31] <helpme1234> ok
#2693 [18:31] <curtzilla> can someone please help me?
#2694 [18:32] <curtzilla> my minecraft keeps crashing randomly
#2695 [18:32] <helpme1234> dude im soooo confused
#2696 [18:32] <TheNytangel> curtzilla, any error messages?
#2697 [18:32] <lastelemental> about what?
#2698 [18:32] <curtzilla> with a document called hs_err_pid popping up
#2699 [18:32] <helpme1234> idk i just dont know how to do this
#2700 [18:32] <Damein> get it thenytangel
#2701 [18:32] <TheNytangel> ??> curtzilla error/javacrash
#2702 [18:32] <VoxelHead> curtzilla: (error/javacrash) A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment
#2703 [18:32] <TheNytangel> Damein, yes
#2704 [18:32] <VoxelHead> curtzilla: (error/javacrash) This error happens when something causes java to become unstable. The usual culprit is lwjgl (and therefore video drivers), however, it can be caused by a broken JVM. Reinstall your video card drivers, and if that fails, run javara and then reinstall java.
#2705 [18:33] <lastelemental> hit prt src above the home button
#2706 [18:33] <lastelemental> next to f12
#2707 [18:33] <helpme1234> where is the home button
#2708 [18:33] <lastelemental> close to the backspace
#2709 [18:34] <helpme1234> idk what you mean
#2710 [18:34] <curtzilla> so uh. perhaps is this the reason why my minecraft is running so slow lately?
#2711 [18:34] <lastelemental> do you know where f12 is?
#2712 [18:34] <helpme1234> yes
#2713 [18:34] <helpme1234> and i see my home button
#2714 [18:35] <lastelemental> look at the button to the right of it
#2715 [18:35] <helpme1234> but idk what prt and src is?
#2716 [18:35] <lastelemental> its to the right of f12 its 1 button
#2717 [18:35] <helpme1234> ahhhh hold on i think i got it
#2718 [18:35] <curtzilla> thnks for helping me! :)
#2719 [18:36] <lastelemental> press it then open paint then upload it
#2720 [18:36] <helpme1234> ok hold on
#2721 [18:36] <lastelemental> gotta go for a bit soon so i help you for as long as i can
#2722 [18:36] <helpme1234> ok
#2723 [18:37] <helpme1234> mine automatically goes to snagit though
#2724 [18:37] <lastelemental> as long as it gets saved as an image file its fine
#2725 [18:37] <helpme1234> ok
#2726 [18:37] <helpme1234> hold on
#2727 [18:37] <lastelemental> then uploadf it to imgur.com and pm me the url
#2728 [18:38] <helpme1234> ok im doing that now
#2729 [18:39] <helpme1234> ok i uploaded it and it brought me to a page where liek it says all this weird stuff
#2730 [18:40] <helpme1234> it uploaded now
#2731 [18:40] * guest-0-95839 [guest-0-95839@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2732 [18:40] <guest-0-95839> hey hey, can someone help me?
#2733 [18:40] <Damein> are you gunna take stuff again
#2734 [18:40] <Damein> thenytangel?
#2735 [18:40] <lastelemental> alright do you have the url for it?
#2736 [18:40] <TheNytangel> Damein, what
#2737 [18:40] <helpme1234> [URL=http://imgur.com/k6l4f][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/k6l4f.png[/IMG][/URL]
#2738 [18:40] <TheNytangel> Damein, lol
#2739 [18:40] <helpme1234> their you go i think thats it?
#2740 [18:40] <Damein> are you gunna take items from my chest?
#2741 [18:41] <Damein> lol
#2742 [18:41] <guest-0-95839> Hey, im having some trouble getting the game to launch can anyone lend a hand?
#2743 [18:41] <helpme1234> hello?
#2744 [18:41] <Damein> thenytangel my friend clicked force update but its stuck in one spont
#2745 [18:41] <Guest24372> thenytangel i did the force update and it says updating mincraft but the little bar thing isnt moving
#2746 [18:41] <helpme1234> LASTELEMENTAL HELP! ARE YOU THEIR!
#2747 [18:41] <lastelemental> looking at the pic
#2748 [18:41] <helpme1234> ok
#2749 [18:42] <lastelemental> dude seriously
#2750 [18:42] <helpme1234> huh?
#2751 [18:42] <helpme1234> sorry my internet is a little slow
#2752 [18:42] <lastelemental> im only human im not a bot who can instantly respond
#2753 [18:42] <helpme1234> sorry man
#2754 [18:42] <TheNytangel> Guest24372, are you using windows, linux, or mac
#2755 [18:42] * Noah1831 [Noah1831@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2756 [18:42] <TheNytangel> Wahrheit, hi :)
#2757 [18:42] <Noah1831> I need help with java
#2758 [18:43] <Guest24372> thenytangel i am using windows
#2759 [18:43] <guest-0-95839> I need help launching
#2760 [18:43] <TheNytangel> ??> Guest24372 win/reinst
#2761 [18:43] <VoxelHead> Guest24372: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2762 [18:43] <lastelemental> don't see it try hitting the + on the line about Sound video......
#2763 [18:43] <VoxelHead> Guest24372: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2765 [18:43] <Noah1831> i think my computer has a virus and i cant run java
#2766 [18:43] <helpme1234> kk hold on lastelemental
#2767 [18:44] <guest-0-95839> Anyone available?
#2768 [18:44] <Noah1831> me
#2769 [18:44] <TheNytangel> ??> Noah1831 virus
#2770 [18:44] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (virus) There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.
#2771 [18:44] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (virus) For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
#2772 [18:44] <helpme1234> i clicked it and it turned into a minus sign
#2773 [18:44] <Wahrheit> TheNytangel: Tad busy
#2774 [18:44] <lastelemental> alright what does it say below it
#2775 [18:44] <Wahrheit> Updating my radiobot
#2776 [18:44] <TheNytangel> I only said hi..
#2777 [18:44] <guest-0-95839> hey Noah1831, im having some trouble launching.
#2778 [18:44] <Wahrheit> oh lol
#2779 [18:44] <TheNytangel> I wasn't going to ask for anything
#2780 [18:44] <Wahrheit> usually when people page me they want something
#2781 [18:44] <Wahrheit> :p
#2782 [18:45] <TheNytangel> :P
#2783 [18:45] <helpme1234> audio codecs, legacy audio drivers, etc
#2784 [18:45] <guest-0-95839> I can click into my world but then it just goes black
#2785 [18:45] <lastelemental> no below the processors
#2786 [18:45] * TheNytangel watches youtube video
#2786 [18:45] <TheNytangel> If you need me, hl me
#2787 [18:45] <helpme1234> huh?
#2788 [18:45] <lastelemental> above sound ..... it says processors hit the +next to it
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#2790 [18:46] <helpme1234> ok i hit it what now?
#2791 [18:46] <lastelemental> it should have some stuff indented right below it
#2792 [18:46] <Noah1831> um guest ask someone else
#2793 [18:46] <guest-0-95839> dag
#2794 [18:46] <Noah1831> i cant help you
#2795 [18:46] <guest-0-95839> boo
#2796 [18:46] <guest-0-95839> okay
#2797 [18:46] <helpme1234> it bring up two thing that say Genuine Intel
#2798 [18:46] <helpme1234> what now?
#2799 [18:46] <lastelemental> both say intel?
#2800 [18:46] <helpme1234> yes
#2801 [18:46] <guest-0-95839> is there a more direct way to get help from someone this is making my brain hurt
#2802 [18:47] <lastelemental> do they have any numbers like g965 or anything like that?
#2803 [18:47] <helpme1234> yes
#2804 [18:47] <lastelemental> what are they?
#2805 [18:47] <Guest24372> when i try to use minecraft it says downloading packages then it stop and doesnt move thenytangel what do i do
#2806 [18:47] <Noah1831> i an still having trouble with java
#2807 [18:47] <helpme1234> T2300 @ 1.66GHz
#2808 [18:47] <helpme1234> the other one is the same
#2809 [18:48] <lastelemental> sry gtg Nyt might be able to help you
#2810 [18:48] <helpme1234> NOOOOOOO
#2811 [18:48] <Noah1831> said the blind man
#2812 [18:48] <helpme1234> nyt can you pleaseeeee help me
#2813 [18:48] <Noah1831> I NEEEEEEEEEED HELP TOOOOOOO
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#2815 [18:48] <TheNytangel> Guest24372, did you do the reinstall? Or are you still trying to do the force update?
#2816 [18:49] <helpme1234> nyt do you have skype?
#2817 [18:49] <TheNytangel> Yes
#2818 [18:49] <helpme1234> if so can you please help me, i just want to get this over with
#2819 [18:49] <helpme1234> or is their a way we can talk i have a mic and webcam
#2820 [18:50] <helpme1234> send me a friend request pleaseee, im begging you i just want to get this over with
#2821 [18:50] <Noah1831> i need help please
#2822 [18:50] <helpme1234> and if you skype me it will be a lot easier to do
#2823 [18:51] <Guest24372> thenytangel i did the force update then i tried to play it and it didnt download the whole way and just stayed there should i delete minecraft then redownload it?
#2824 [18:51] <Noah1831> java isnt working
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#2826 [18:51] <TheNytangel> ??> Guest24372 win/reinst
#2827 [18:51] <VoxelHead> Guest24372: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2828 [18:51] <VoxelHead> Guest24372: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2829 [18:51] <Noah1831> please help me please
#2830 [18:51] <helpme1234> TheNytangel Help me please
#2831 [18:51] <helpme1234> skype me my skype name is peyton.kocevar
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#2833 [18:51] <Noah1831> please help me please
#2834 [18:52] <Noah1831> java isnt working
#2835 [18:52] <TheNytangel> I need to go eat
#2836 [18:52] <TheNytangel> I'll be back in a while
#2837 [18:52] <helpme1234> NOOOO
#2838 [18:52] <Noah1831> please help me please
#2839 [18:52] <Noah1831> i need help
#2840 [18:53] <helpme1234> AD_Scott help me please
#2841 [18:53] <Noah1831> java isnt working
#2842 [18:53] * mib_ooyqol [mib_ooyqol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2843 [18:53] <Noah1831> please help me or else
#2844 [18:53] <mib_ooyqol> hello
#2845 [18:53] <AG_Scott> helpme1234: Do NOT PM me.
#2846 [18:53] <Noah1831> ?
#2847 [18:54] <helpme1234> AG_Scott help me
#2848 [18:54] <thelonelly> wtf theres pm in this website
#2849 [18:54] <thelonelly> any1 here use chatango
#2850 [18:54] <Noah1831> what is pm
#2851 [18:54] * AG_Scott kicked helpme1234 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: elpme1234 :I said DO NOT PM ME!)
#2852 [18:54] <thelonelly> private message i think
#2853 [18:54] <thelonelly> o lolz
#2854 [18:54] <Noah1831> i really need help
#2855 [18:55] <thelonelly> on what
#2856 [18:55] <Noah1831> java
#2857 [18:55] <Noah1831> it isnt working
#2858 [18:55] <Shadow386> lol scott
#2859 [18:55] <Shadow386> I got a pm too
#2860 [18:55] <Noah1831> said the blind man
#2861 [18:55] <AG_Scott> Freaking idiot.
#2862 [18:56] <thelonelly> yeah fuc.k it im leaving
#2863 [18:56] <Noah1831> can someone help me
#2864 [18:56] <thelonelly> byezazezizozuz
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#2866 [18:56] <helpme1234> what does PM mean?
#2867 [18:56] <TheNoodle> if thelonelly was leaving anyway why filter f-ck?
#2868 [18:56] <Noah1831> i need help
#2869 [18:56] <TheNoodle> Helpme1234, a private message.
#2870 [18:56] <Noah1831> please
#2871 [18:57] <helpme1234> ohhh can you like not PM anybody?
#2872 [18:57] <TheNoodle> It is considered impolite to pm those that tell you not to.
#2873 [18:58] <Noah1831> i need help for the 50th time
#2874 [18:58] <TheNoodle> Sorry Noah1831, I'm off to bed :P
#2875 [18:58] <mib_sxscp3> THANK YOU nyt new launcher works great.
#2876 [18:58] <helpme1234> oh ok
#2877 [18:58] <TheNoodle> night everyone ^_^
#2878 [18:58] <helpme1234> sorry dude i didnt know that?
#2879 [18:58] <Noah1831> NOOOOOOOOOOO
#2880 [18:58] <TheNoodle> ...
#2881 [18:59] <TheNoodle> can someone please kick helpme1234 again?
#2882 [18:59] <TheNoodle> "[06:57] <helpme1234> can you please help me?"
#2883 [18:59] <Noah1831> i can never play minecraft again
#2884 [18:59] <TheNoodle> Do NOT PM a user unless they request it.
#2885 [18:59] <Noah1831> T_T
#2886 [19:00] <helpme1234> OK IM SORRY DUDE
#2887 [19:00] <Noah1831> hi
#2888 [19:00] <helpme1234> seriously dont kick me please
#2889 [19:00] <lemon-rev> ??> helpme1234 win/dxdiag
#2890 [19:00] <VoxelHead> helpme1234: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2891 [19:00] <VoxelHead> helpme1234: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2892 [19:01] <Noah1831> said hte blind man
#2893 [19:01] <helpme1234> where do i do this at?
#2894 [19:01] <lemon-rev> your running windows ?
#2895 [19:01] <helpme1234> yes i am
#2896 [19:01] * guest-726976-76201 [guest-726976-76201@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2897 [19:01] <lemon-rev> ok, then do that on your keyboard then
#2898 [19:02] <helpme1234> in the search engine or where?
#2899 [19:02] <guest-726976-76201> I got a Minecraft problem
#2900 [19:02] <guest-726976-76201> if ayone can help
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#2903 [19:02] <lemon-rev> guest-726976-76201 dont know the trouble
#2904 [19:02] <guest-726976-76201> Uhm....YOu can help right?
#2905 [19:03] <lemon-rev> i dont know you havent let me know what is up
#2906 [19:03] <guest-726976-76201> ALright, I recently have been connecting to servers
#2907 [19:03] <guest-726976-76201> and when i connect
#2908 [19:03] <guest-726976-76201> I fall int a dark abyss
#2909 [19:03] <guest-726976-76201> gray particles are flying
#2910 [19:04] <guest-726976-76201> I cant seem to get a striaght answer
#2911 [19:04] <guest-726976-76201> I just got one talking to my internet company, an my internet is as good as it can get
#2912 [19:04] <lemon-rev> guest-726976-76201 when you fall and join a server it is just trying to load up the terrin for the first time
#2913 [19:04] <lemon-rev> guest-726976-76201 its also called lag if you cant wait then sorry cant help, but only waiting when you connect to a server like that is to wait it out
#2914 [19:05] <guest-726976-76201> Well, you see i got a problem fixed, and a day after this happened
#2915 [19:05] <Guest24372> lemon-rev i am having trouble with minecraft everytime i try to play it it says downloading packages and it stays there, do i need to win reinst?
#2916 [19:05] <guest-726976-76201> I cat chat or anything
#2917 [19:05] <guest-726976-76201> this ishappened to every server i go to...
#2918 [19:05] <guest-726976-76201> *cant
#2919 [19:05] <lemon-rev> guest-726976-76201 thats because your computer is still trying to load up the world, and maybe is having too much trouble,
#2920 [19:06] <guest-726976-76201> Is tat really the problem?
#2921 [19:06] <lemon-rev> guest-726976-76201 it only happens in mp correct ?
#2922 [19:06] <guest-726976-76201> Yes
#2923 [19:06] <guest-726976-76201> ONly MP
#2924 [19:06] <guest-726976-76201> Everyone else is talking and moving....
#2925 [19:06] <guest-726976-76201> But it isnt for me
#2926 [19:06] <lemon-rev> guest-726976-76201 t for type, please stop useing short sentaces
#2927 [19:07] <Guest24372> ??> guest24372 win/reinst
#2928 [19:07] <VoxelHead> guest24372: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2929 [19:07] <VoxelHead> guest24372: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2930 [19:07] <guest-726976-76201> Sorry....
#2931 [19:07] <lemon-rev> guest-726976-76201 if you cant wait for the world to load up or it crashes before hand then its lagg and you cant connect to that server
#2932 [19:07] <lemon-rev> wtf
#2933 [19:07] <lemon-rev> why
#2934 [19:07] <lemon-rev> its not his mc
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#2936 [19:07] <lemon-rev> hes talking smp yea
#2937 [19:08] <Ariakas> SMP FTW
#2938 [19:08] <guest-726976-76201> It disconnects after about 2 minutes
#2939 [19:08] <Guest24372> me?
#2940 [19:08] <lemon-rev> guest-726976-76201 then your either being kicked off the server for massive lagg or the server and your connection just isnt able to keep up
#2941 [19:09] <guest-726976-76201> So the only answer is to sit there and wait it out?
#2942 [19:09] <Ariakas> guest-726976-76201 what server are you trying to get on?
#2943 [19:09] <lemon-rev> guest-726976-76201 if the terrain doesnt load up, then its best to try somewhere else
#2944 [19:09] <guest-726976-76201> Do i give you the IP?
#2945 [19:09] <guest-726976-76201> Ariakas?
#2946 [19:09] <Ariakas> suree
#2947 [19:10] <Ariakas> but does it have a name?
#2948 [19:10] <Ariakas> or is it just some server running on someones broadband xp
#2949 [19:10] * guest-0-39768 [guest-0-39768@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2950 [19:10] <guest-726976-76201> The IP is:‎199.167.134.93:25575
#2951 [19:10] <guest-0-39768> Hello, i was wondering if anyone else has the "out of memory" error, i play with a few friends and i seem to be the only one who keeps getting booted out of the game due to this error
#2952 [19:10] <xales> Get more RAM
#2953 [19:11] <guest-0-39768> i got 4gb o.O
#2954 [19:11] <xales> Close other programs, then
#2955 [19:11] <Ariakas> 8gb here
#2956 [19:11] <guest-0-39768> i play other games fine just this one keeps giving me error
#2957 [19:11] <guest-726976-76201> Same here :l
#2958 [19:11] <guest-0-39768> it says something like not enough memory allocated to java
#2959 [19:12] <guest-0-39768> and i got the latest java version
#2960 [19:12] <Guest24372> can i get help when i start minecraft it says downloading packages and it doesnt move ive tried win/reinst and it didnt work can i get help
#2961 [19:12] <xales> Are you using minecraft.exe to launch Minecraft?
#2962 [19:12] <xales> Guest24372: Turn off your firewall.
#2963 [19:12] <Guest24372> how do i get to that?
#2964 [19:13] <Guest24372> type in search firewall?
#2965 [19:13] <Ariakas> lolol
#2966 [19:13] <xales> Google how to turn off Windows Firewall.
#2967 [19:13] <Ariakas> noobs
#2968 [19:13] <Guest24372> i know im a noob
#2969 [19:13] <xales> Beyond that, if you don't have a basic understanding of how to operate your computer, I suggest hiring a professional.
#2970 [19:13] <xales> I'm happy to help you help yourself.
#2971 [19:13] <xales> I'm not going to do everything for you.
#2972 [19:13] <xales> Ariakas: It's really not necessary to be rude.
#2973 [19:14] <Guest24372> great wanna help me then?
#2974 [19:14] <guest-0-39768> if u dont have a firewall installed, then its prob the one from windows
#2975 [19:14] <guest-0-39768> i always turn it off when re-installing the windows
#2976 [19:15] <xales> Guest24372: Again, if you can't figure out how to turn off your firewall on your own (it's really not hard, all you have to do is use Google ._.) then you should hire someone to fix it for you, because you are not capable of doing it yourself
#2977 [19:16] <Guest24372> before i was just trying to join my friends server and it kept saying connection lost and the voxelhead bot said try force updating then it didnt download the packages
#2978 [19:16] <xales> Guest24372: Yet again, try disabling any firewalls which may be running on your computer.
#2979 [19:16] <guest-0-39768> Guest24372 check ur PM
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#2981 [19:17] <guest-726976-76201> I keep Losin connection to my server!
#2982 [19:17] <guest-726976-76201> Why?
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#2984 [19:18] <lgb> how do i play survival mode?
#2985 [19:18] <guest-0-39768> omfg LOL
#2986 [19:18] <xales> Buy the game.
#2987 [19:18] <xales> Download it.
#2988 [19:18] <xales> Play it.
#2989 [19:18] <Guest24372> ok
#2990 [19:18] <xales> Derp.
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#2992 [19:20] <Damein> what is pm? sorry im guests friend and for some reason hes not asking even though its him who needs the help
#2993 [19:20] <Guest24372> ok i added minecraft to my firewall
#2994 [19:20] <xales> Guest24372: No, you turn _off_ your firewall
#2995 [19:21] <guest-0-39768> Damein PM = Private Message
#2996 [19:22] <Damein> turn off firewall for a second brent and if it lets viruses through then run a virus scanner
#2997 [19:22] <Damein> derp brent
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#2999 [19:22] <Guest24372> i did iturn off firewall its not making a diffrence on minecraft update
#3000 [19:22] <Damein> guest24372 get on here stupid
#3001 [19:22] <Guest24372> damein i am
#3002 [19:23] <Damein> well do what the person says here imma go on teamviewer to help you and mess around
#3003 [19:24] <Damein> his firewall is off and it didnt work now what should we try its still stuck saying downloading packages
#3004 [19:25] <xales> Damein: Make a new user account, not containing any special characters
#3005 [19:25] <xales> (in the username)
#3006 [19:25] <xales> Windows user account, NOT a Minecraft account
#3007 [19:25] <Damein> user account minecraft? or computer user?
#3008 [19:26] <Damein> ok
#3009 [19:26] <Damein> he wants to know wehy he needs another user thing
#3010 [19:26] <Damein> (talking to him on xbox)
#3011 [19:26] * Houraisan_Kaguya [Houraisan_Kaguya@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3012 [19:27] <xales> To make Minecraft work...?
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#3014 [19:29] <Damein> ok he did redownload minecraft from minecraft . net onto the new user?
#3015 [19:33] * mib_vv7zxg [mib_vv7zxg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3016 [19:33] <mib_vv7zxg> Please help me! D=
#3017 [19:34] * mib_4a41gf [mib_4a41gf@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3018 [19:34] <Damein> xales it still says the same thing
#3019 [19:35] <Damein> xales?
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#3021 [19:35] <Damein> hello?
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#3025 [19:41] <lastelemental> hello everyone
#3026 [19:41] <mib_m1jwcf> hi uh I keep getting the error that minecraft cannot find an accelerated openGL mode.
#3027 [19:42] <lastelemental> Nyt couldn't help you?
#3028 [19:42] <mib_m1jwcf> nyt?
#3029 [19:42] <ShadowBelmont32> can anyone help me figure out this problem? everytime i run minecraft (1.8.1) my character, mobs, chests, and other various things are all black
#3030 [19:42] <lastelemental> Nytangel
#3031 [19:42] <ShadowBelmont32> its not a texture pack issue though cuz i dont use a texture pack
#3032 [19:42] <mib_m1jwcf> who is that?
#3033 [19:43] <lastelemental> ah nvm
#3034 [19:43] <lastelemental> idk
#3035 [19:43] <mib_m1jwcf> do you have any idea how to fix it?
#3036 [19:43] <mib_m1jwcf> ugh...
#3037 [19:43] <lastelemental> did you try updating the driver?
#3038 [19:43] <mib_m1jwcf> idk, hold on
#3039 [19:44] <mib_m1jwcf> could it be direct X related? because I do not have it.
#3040 [19:44] <TheBadShepperd> I asked earlier, but may have failed to see the reply. Does anyone know if the Minecraft client accepts IPv6 addresses to connect to? :P
#3041 [19:44] <Damein> lastelemental could i get help?
#3042 [19:44] <ShadowBelmont32> yes ive updated video card drivers reinstalled java and i can't seem to find the source of the problem
#3043 [19:44] <lastelemental> mib what os do you have?
#3044 [19:44] <mib_m1jwcf> Windows XP
#3045 [19:45] <lastelemental> @Dam the server still?
#3046 [19:45] <lastelemental> you could try installing directx
#3047 [19:45] <mib_m1jwcf> do u know a link to it?
#3048 [19:45] <lastelemental> 1sec
#3049 [19:45] <Damein> no i was told to try to force update the thing
#3050 [19:45] <lastelemental> minecraft?
#3051 [19:45] <Damein> i did and now its stuck on downloading packages
#3052 [19:46] <lastelemental> for how long has it been stuck?
#3053 [19:46] <lastelemental> http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=35
#3054 [19:46] <mib_m1jwcf> thnx ele
#3055 [19:46] * xxsniperfixx [xxsniperfixx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3056 [19:46] <lastelemental> should be it
#3057 [19:46] <xxsniperfixx> hi can someone help[ me?
#3058 [19:46] <ShadowBelmont32> does anyone know what would cause black entities other than my computer being a dinosaur?
#3059 [19:46] <Damein> about half hour
#3060 [19:47] <xxsniperfixx> hey can someone help me figuer out why its saying cannot connect to minercraft.net
#3061 [19:47] <lastelemental> im doing a force to see if it happenes to me
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#3063 [19:47] <Damein> kk ty elemental
#3064 [19:47] <lastelemental> idk mine flew through it D
#3065 [19:48] <xxsniperfixx> hey can someone help me figuer out why its saying cannot connect to minercraft.net?
#3066 [19:48] <lastelemental> is it moving at all orr is it frozen?
#3067 [19:48] * mib_0bzqj3 [mib_0bzqj3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3068 [19:48] <xxsniperfixx> why you mean?
#3069 [19:48] <lastelemental> @D
#3070 [19:49] <lastelemental> not sure sinper
#3071 [19:49] <ShadowBelmont32> oh and another thing accompanied with my character and other entities being black, in the inventory the letters are transparent and in the achievement menu as well
#3072 [19:49] <Damein> damnit is there any way of fixing it?
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#3074 [19:49] <lastelemental> try exiting out
#3075 [19:49] <xxsniperfixx> T.T its like not giveing me an error but under the play offline it says not downloaded?
#3076 [19:50] <lastelemental> sniper are you using irc from the same box?
#3077 [19:51] * mib_s55qwh [mib_s55qwh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3078 [19:51] <Damein> it still says the same thing and is stuck there
#3079 [19:51] <lastelemental> did you do a force or did it automatically go back there?
#3080 [19:51] <mib_s55qwh> hello everyone
#3081 [19:51] <ShadowBelmont32> so no one else has experienced my problem(s)
#3082 [19:51] <lastelemental> hey mib
#3083 [19:51] <mib_s55qwh> i have a question
#3084 [19:51] <lastelemental> ?
#3085 [19:51] <xxsniperfixx> no
#3086 [19:52] <xxsniperfixx> im using the minecraft.exe
#3087 [19:52] <lastelemental> does the box your playing mine on have an internet connection?
#3088 [19:52] <xxsniperfixx> yes
#3089 [19:52] <xxsniperfixx> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect</center></font></body></html>
#3090 [19:52] <xxsniperfixx> thats on the top
#3091 [19:52] <mib_s55qwh> when i start the mine craft game in the browser it doesnt load and if i install it it says error 4 what can i do?
#3092 [19:52] <Damein> no it said do you want to update minecraft bc i deleted minecraft and redownloaded it
#3093 [19:52] <lastelemental> hold up
#3094 [19:52] <Damein> yea it shows the update stuff
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#3096 [19:53] <Damein> and when we click not now it gets stuck at done loading but wont pop up
#3097 [19:53] * o3o [o3o@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3098 [19:54] <ShadowBelmont32> you may have to redownload again Damein thats happened to me before
#3099 [19:54] <lastelemental> @sniper it would seem it has to do with your connection
#3100 [19:54] <buttersk> uhhh i already bought the game and ive been playing for a long time now, but when i tried to log in today it said that i wasnt premium and had to buy the game again
#3101 [19:54] <buttersk> any help?
#3102 [19:54] <Damein> ok so redownload?
#3103 [19:54] <o3o> PM ME A GIFT CODE
#3104 [19:54] <buttersk> I also still have the receipt and it even says confirmed?
#3105 [19:54] <lastelemental> Butter we are no mojang and cannot help with accound problems you nneed to contact them
#3106 [19:54] <ShadowBelmont32> id look for other options first but if nothing else helps redownload yes
#3107 [19:55] <lastelemental> and o3o leave before i call over a mod
#3108 [19:55] <buttersk> I cant seem to find the customer service for minecraft.net D=
#3109 [19:55] <o3o> no
#3110 [19:55] <lastelemental> hold up
#3111 [19:55] <Damein> wow 030 your not kool
#3112 [19:55] <o3o> o, not 0.
#3113 [19:55] <mib_s55qwh> hmm... i think it was a one time error it seems its downloading now
#3114 [19:56] <ShadowBelmont32> who cares what it is your not cool so get out
#3115 [19:56] <Damein> i dont care your still not kool giving away free mc accounts is not what they do
#3116 [19:56] <lastelemental> butter try minecraft.net/support
#3117 [19:56] <buttersk> kk thx
#3118 [19:56] <o3o> me no want account, me want gift code, dumbass
#3119 [19:56] <lastelemental> either way your an idiot
#3120 [19:56] <mib_s55qwh> let me see where it takes me if anything goes wrong ill contact you guys again thank you for your time
#3121 [19:56] <o3o> no u
#3122 [19:56] <o3o> no u
#3123 [19:56] <o3o> no u
#3124 [19:56] <o3o> no u
#3125 [19:56] <o3o> no u
#3126 [19:57] <o3o> poop
#3127 [19:57] <o3o> poop
#3128 [19:57] <o3o> poop
#3129 [19:57] <o3o> POOP
#3130 [19:57] <ShadowBelmont32> someone call in the mod squad
#3131 [19:57] <o3o> no u
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#3133 [19:58] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#3134 [19:58] <Damein> thenytangel
#3135 [19:59] * o3o
#3135 [19:59] * o3o
#3135 [19:59] * o3o
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#3136 [19:59] <onix> hey
#3137 [19:59] <onix> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect</center></font></body></html>
#3138 [19:59] <onix> anyone know how to fix it? ^
#3139 [19:59] * o3o
#3139 [19:59] * o3o
#3139 [19:59] <Damein> it still didnt work its still stuck on downloading packages
#3140 [19:59] * o3o
#3140 [19:59] * o3o
#3140 [19:59] * o3o
#3140 [19:59] * o3o
#3140 [19:59] <lastelemental> hey Nyt do you know any admins or mods?
#3141 [20:00] <TheNytangel> !kick o3o
#3142 [20:00] * AuBot kicked TheNytangel from #minecrafthelp (Reason: heNytangel :No. Just...No.)
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#3144 [20:00] <lastelemental> uhm nvm
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#3146 [20:00] <TheNytangel> lastelemental, yeah :P
#3147 [20:00] <lastelemental> lol
#3148 [20:00] <Guest24372> im trying to do a download on minecraft like an update and its stuck on downloading packages
#3149 [20:00] <Damein> thenytangel
#3150 [20:00] <sluggo> hello
#3151 [20:00] <TheNytangel> Damein, yes?
#3152 [20:00] <Damein> its stuck on downloading packages just like he said
#3153 [20:01] <o3o> MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
#3154 [20:01] <ShadowBelmont32> kick that bastard
#3155 [20:01] <TheNytangel> ShadowBelmont32, will in a minute..
#3156 [20:01] <ShadowBelmont32> thank you
#3157 [20:01] <sluggo> i try to login and it says login failed any ideas?
#3158 [20:01] <lastelemental> wrong pass or user perhaps?
#3159 [20:01] <TheNytangel> sluggo, keep trying? Or does it say it right away
#3160 [20:01] <ShadowBelmont32> he came in wanting a free gift code and then started spammin random crap
#3161 [20:01] <TheNytangel> !kick o3o
#3162 [20:01] * AuBot kicked o3o from #minecrafthelp (Reason: 3o :Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by TheNytangel with reason: None given.))
#3163 [20:01] <sluggo> says right away
#3164 [20:02] <lastelemental> Nyt whay did au kick you at first?
#3165 [20:02] <TheNytangel> sluggo, is there an ! in your windows username?
#3166 [20:02] <Damein> its stuck on downloading packages just like he said
#3167 [20:02] <TheNytangel> lastelemental, Keal.. won't highlight, hadn't added me
#3168 [20:03] <lastelemental> g'nite everyone hf and gl
#3169 [20:03] <Damein> thenytangel its stuck on downloading packages and i tried to redownload minecraft
#3170 [20:03] <TheNytangel> Damein, hold on
#3171 [20:03] <TheNytangel> ??> sluggo !
#3172 [20:03] <VoxelHead> sluggo: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#3173 [20:03] <ShadowBelmont32> oh and also i dont think anyone else has had my problem but has anyont had the problem of like your character and mobs being all black in the middle of the day?
#3174 [20:03] <VoxelHead> sluggo: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
#3175 [20:04] <onix> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect</center></font></body></html>
#3176 [20:04] <onix> anyone know how to fix that ^?
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#3178 [20:04] <TheNytangel> >.>
#3179 [20:04] <ShadowBelmont32> oh come on
#3180 [20:04] <ShadowBelmont32> howd he get back in?
#3181 [20:05] <TheNytangel> Well he wasn't exactly banned
#3182 [20:05] <o3o> Cuz I can
#3183 [20:05] * VoxelHead kicked o3o from #minecrafthelp (Reason: 3o :Banned: Spamming.)
#3184 [20:05] <TheNytangel> :P
#3185 [20:05] <ShadowBelmont32> yayz thanx voxel
#3186 [20:06] * VoxelHead bows and twirls its magic @
#3186 [20:06] <ShadowBelmont32> iMAGIC!
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#3188 [20:07] <VoxelHead> If o3o comes back next week and tries that crap again, it'll be perma'd.
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#3190 [20:07] <Damein> thenytangel its stuck on downloading packages and i tried to redownload minecraft
#3191 [20:07] <TheNytangel> Damein, I know. Hold on
#3192 [20:07] <Damein> kk
#3193 [20:07] <ShadowBelmont32> oh just in case noone has seen my messages due to o3o and what not i have a problem running minecraft correctly
#3194 [20:08] <TheNytangel> Damein, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RUPTA7XY
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#3196 [20:08] <ShadowBelmont32> all the entities are black like my character and mobs, even in daylight, and in the inventory and achievement menu, all the letters are transparent
#3197 [20:09] <MrDyne> Is there a way to make the minecraft server play a custom wav file when a player joins or disconnects?
#3198 [20:09] <ShadowBelmont32> and i need to know whether it can be fixed or if it is because my computer is old enough to have been dug up with king tut's crap
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#3201 [20:11] <Damein> ok he did it showed a black box like cmd and it said press any key to continue we pressed that and it didnt do anything
#3202 [20:12] <TheNytangel> Damein, did you run minecraft again?
#3203 [20:12] <Damein> no hold on
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#3205 [20:13] <TheNytangel> MrDyne, don't thinks so unless you make a mod or something
#3206 [20:13] <Damein> still says the same thing downloading packages and doesnt move
#3207 [20:13] <ShadowBelmont32> does anyone know if minecraft 1.8 will run properly on older computers?
#3208 [20:14] <Damein> thenytangel can you teamview my friend he has it installed?
#3209 [20:14] <MrDyne> Hmm I wonder if there is a way to have the server's cmd output sent to Game Maker?
#3210 [20:15] <Damein> thenytangel?
#3211 [20:15] <MrDyne> 1.8 Has already killed three of my friends computers. Two flat out died, burned up. The other one well it wont do games anymore.
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#3213 [20:16] <ShadowBelmont32> well it "runs" on my computer but like i said earlier all the mobs and my character are black and inventory letters are transparent and stuff...
#3214 [20:16] <ShadowBelmont32> i'm just tryin to hold out a bit until i get my new laptop
#3215 [20:17] <ShadowBelmont32> it seems like a graphics error, but i updated my drivers and reinstalled java, and i dont have any texture packs installed
#3216 [20:17] <ShadowBelmont32> its been doing that since i updated
#3217 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> ShadowBelmont32: make sure your GPU drivers aren't set to force any settings
#3218 [20:18] <ShadowBelmont32> do i check that in the control panel or from the graphics card software?
#3219 [20:19] <Guest24372> ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) we need help!
#3220 [20:19] <Damein> ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) help us!
#3221 [20:19] <Damein> we are mexican ppl trying to get minecraft to work!
#3222 [20:19] <Damein> ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
#3223 [20:20] <Damein> please!!!!!
#3224 [20:20] <Damein> >.<
#3225 [20:20] <Guest24372> were not mexican btw
#3226 [20:20] <MrDyne> One of my friends is wondering how to unupgrade back to 1.7.*?
#3227 [20:20] <Damein> lol shut up brent
#3228 [20:20] <Damein> you cant
#3229 [20:20] <Guest24372> cunt
#3230 [20:20] * AuBot kicked Guest24372 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uest24372 :Please keep it civil.)
#3231 [20:22] <Damein> mrdyne unless you redownload minecraft and then dont click download
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#3233 [20:23] <Damein> can i get help with my minecraft ?
#3234 [20:23] <Damein> ugh wheres thrae when you need him
#3235 [20:23] <MrDyne> what is the problem?
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#3237 [20:29] <ShadowBelmont32> ok so nothing on my graphics card is doin it so i think its just the age of my comp
#3238 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> it might just be, ShadowBelmont32
#3239 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> the last update did drastically change the lighting engine to something (slightly) more modern, so..
#3240 [20:30] <ShadowBelmont32> its a Dell 4550, i think, so yeah its pretty old
#3241 [20:30] <ShadowBelmont32> in that case, off to my dad's computer!!!
#3242 [20:31] <ShadowBelmont32> and thanks anyway :)
#3243 [20:31] <MrDyne> For Minecraft to run with out problems you need over 2GB of RAM, a 256MB Nvidia Geforce video card. (Mc seems to not like older ATI cards.) And a Dualcore over 1.5GHz.
#3244 [20:33] <MrDyne> What makes me mad is Minecraft on my compute runs at 900MB to 1.5GB of RAM. I have to run Minecraft with a 3GB limit or it will crash whenever the RAM spikes.
#3245 [20:34] <tyteen4a03> ?? bot
#3246 [20:34] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, sometimes a sock-puppet, but never an independant helper.
#3247 [20:34] <MrDyne> Max video settings, no mods, started doing this back in 1.6.
#3248 [20:34] <MrDyne> And still does it in 1.8.
#3249 [20:34] <Ariakas> lol
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#3251 [20:34] <MrDyne> Does 64bit Java need more RAM?
#3252 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> No, but 64 bit java can address more RAM.
#3253 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> Only a tiny bit, so as to keep track of wider variables.
#3254 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> in the same way that a more copious encyclopdedia has an extra index volume or two.
#3255 [20:35] <MrDyne> So why does my friends computer runs MC with just 1GB of ram just fine. But I have to run Minecraft with 3GB or it will crash.
#3256 [20:36] <MrDyne> My computer has 4GB of RAM, Windows 7 64 bit. 1GB Gefore Nvidia GTX 240M.
#3257 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> it's probably not the RAM that's causing it to crash.
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#3259 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> it's probably one of myriad crash bugs still in the MC codebase.
#3260 [20:38] <MrDyne> then how does running it at 3GB with a batch file fix the crashing? Also I have presseed F3 and see the used ram up to 1.6GB and stay there for a few mins.
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#3263 [20:41] <Roscoe1724> Hey guys!
#3264 [20:42] <xxsniperfixx> anyone know how to fix java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument
#3265 [20:42] <dalecannon> it is a connection refused error
#3266 [20:42] <dalecannon> it is *essentially
#3267 [20:43] <dalecannon> edit server files correctly?
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#3269 [20:46] <Roscoe1724> Can someone please help me, I have a mincraft server and everything was working fine, All plugins installed and working fine etc. Then, after 5 days of no problems, the console starts spitting out the error 'Cant Keep Up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?' Nothing on the server was modified, nothing was added to the server, it just randomly started spamming that
#3270 [20:46] <Roscoe1724> error in the console.
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#3273 [20:47] <xitzreaper> do you have the hole mine craft game
#3274 [20:47] <Noah1831> I need help with java
#3275 [20:47] <Roscoe1724> What do you mean, reaper?
#3276 [20:47] <Noah1831> said hte blind man
#3277 [20:48] <xitzreaper> do you have the hole game like you bhought it
#3278 [20:48] <Roscoe1724> Yes, I personally have purchased the game, yes
#3279 [20:48] <Noah1831> i need help with java
#3280 [20:48] <Noah1831> please
#3281 [20:48] <Roscoe1724> Im hosting the minecraft server from a game server company
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#3283 [20:48] <xitzreaper> go to java .com and download it
#3284 [20:49] <Noah1831> i did
#3285 [20:49] <Noah1831> i isnt working
#3286 [20:49] <Noah1831> said the blind man
#3287 [20:49] <Roscoe1724> Lemme guess Noah, Windows 7?
#3288 [20:49] <Noah1831> :D
#3289 [20:49] <Noah1831> no xp
#3290 [20:49] <Roscoe1724> Hmm, I had huge problems with Win7 and Java
#3291 [20:50] <xitzreaper> roscoe how long did it take for your mincraft account to say premiem
#3292 [20:50] <Roscoe1724> I ended up having to make .bat files to load things
#3293 [20:50] <Noah1831> it worked before but it stopped working
#3294 [20:50] <Roscoe1724> No idea reaper, Ive have minecraft for ages now
#3295 [20:50] <Noah1831> i stopped working after i installed google chrome
#3296 [20:50] <Roscoe1724> ive had*
#3297 [20:51] <tyteen4a03> Roscoe1724: Are you on bukkit?
#3298 [20:51] <xitzreaper> oh because i have recently purchased it and its taking a long time to work
#3299 [20:51] <tyteen4a03> I mean, the server
#3300 [20:51] <Noah1831> can someone help me
#3301 [20:51] <Noah1831> please
#3302 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> Possibly.
#3303 [20:51] <tyteen4a03> ??> Noah1831 ask
#3304 [20:51] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3305 [20:51] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#3307 [20:52] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: if it's just randomly spitting out "Can't keep up.."
#3308 [20:52] <Roscoe1724> Yes, I was using bukkit 1164 until the error message started, I just upgraded to 1183 to see if it would solve the problem, to no avail
#3309 [20:52] <TheNytangel> tyteen4a03, RAM?
#3310 [20:53] <Roscoe1724> 2GB
#3311 [20:53] <TheNytangel> How many players
#3312 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> tyteen4a03 normal
#3313 [20:53] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03: (normal) That message is perfectly normal, and happens all the time. However, if the console is spamming it or it occurs very frequently, then it is indicating that the machine is not powerful enough to run the server.
#3314 [20:53] <Roscoe1724> Maximum Slots: 50
#3315 [20:53] <Noah1831> someone help me java isnt working :(
#3316 [20:53] <Roscoe1724> Currently hosting 43 players
#3317 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> Noah1831: define "isn't working"
#3318 [20:53] <TheNytangel> Roscoe1724, and 2GB!!?!?!
#3319 [20:53] <TheNytangel> No wonder
#3320 [20:54] <Roscoe1724> I'll link you to the exact hosting company, hold on 1 second...
#3321 [20:54] <Noah1831> does anyone know how they can fix java
#3322 [20:54] <tyteen4a03> Roscoe1724: Minecraft server takes a lot of bandwidth and CPU power, you should not have your limit to 50 unless you have a really powerful machine, say 3.5GHz and 8GB RAM (and possibly a SSD)
#3323 [20:55] <Roscoe1724> https://www.nfoservers.com/order.php
#3324 [20:55] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: is there 4GHz CPU out there yet?
#3325 [20:55] <Noah1831> there is 4ghz 4 core
#3326 [20:55] <Roscoe1724> This server: Your server is currently being hosted on a Intel Xeon E3-1270 (Sandy Bridge 3.4ghz) node with 4 total processor cores and 16 gigabytes of RAM. The database code for this node is nyc-quad34-i; its OS is Linux.
#3327 [20:55] <Noah1831> and 8 core
#3328 [20:55] <Roscoe1724> out of the 16GB, 2GB allocated to me
#3329 [20:56] <Noah1831> and 12 core
#3330 [20:56] <tyteen4a03> Roscoe1724: My suggested player slot is 16
#3331 [20:57] <Noah1831> said the blind man
#3332 [20:57] <Noah1831> :D
#3333 [20:57] <tyteen4a03> Noah1831: nope
#3334 [20:57] <TheNytangel> ....
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#3336 [20:57] <tyteen4a03> if you have ever hit 35 before with 50 player slots, add more RAM to it and buy higher CPU priority
#3337 [20:57] <Noah1831> i need help
#3338 [20:57] <tyteen4a03> ??> Noah1831 help
#3339 [20:57] <tyteen4a03> Imean
#3340 [20:57] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#3341 [20:57] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#3342 [20:57] <tyteen4a03> ??> Noah1831 ask
#3343 [20:58] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3344 [20:58] <Roscoe1724> So the server company is lying to its customers when they say my chosen option can handle 50 slots?
#3345 [20:58] <VoxelHead> Noah1831: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3346 [20:58] <TheNytangel> tyteen4a03, lol
#3347 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: there is if you count cores in aggregate.
#3348 [20:58] <Noah1831> java stopped working
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#3350 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> ??> Roscoe1724 dont/advertise
#3351 [20:58] <VoxelHead> Roscoe1724: (dont/advertise) This channel is not a venue for unsolicited advertisements. Please do not do that again. This is your warning.
#3352 [20:58] <tyteen4a03> no Dope
#3353 [20:59] <Roscoe1724> Advertise?... I was asking for help, showing my server setup for added input?
#3354 [20:59] <tyteen4a03> well, screw it, whatever :P
#3355 [20:59] <tyteen4a03> ^
#3356 [20:59] <TheNytangel> ^
#3357 [20:59] <TheNytangel> Lol
#3358 [20:59] <TheNytangel> It's a pine tree
#3359 [20:59] <tyteen4a03> Roscoe1724: I believe so, if you are sure that only 2GB is being allocated to you
#3360 [21:00] <Roscoe1724> Yeah, that is the server option I chose... when you select the 50 slot option, it tells you your gonna get 2GB
#3361 [21:00] <Noah1831> :D :( :) XD is all the faces i know
#3362 [21:00] <tyteen4a03> Roscoe1724: I think they have bad estimations then ;)
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#3364 [21:00] <Roscoe1724> if I upgrade to the 100 slot option, I get 3.5GB
#3365 [21:00] <TheNytangel> Wow.. I started typing on my desktop keyboard instead of the one on my laptop..
#3366 [21:00] <Noah1831> and i also know :P
#3367 [21:01] <TheNytangel> Roscoe1724, they are mental to think you only need that much RAM
#3368 [21:01] <tyteen4a03> ^
#3369 [21:01] <tyteen4a03> unless you run a custom server
#3370 [21:01] <tyteen4a03> and not bukkit/vanilla
#3371 [21:01] <tyteen4a03> then it might happen
#3372 [21:01] <TheNytangel> tyteen4a03, Canary?
#3373 [21:01] <Noah1831> :/
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#3375 [22:28] <wippler> I was hoping you had a site to redirect us to. The only error i get is when i try to run Minecraft.
#3376 [22:28] <wippler> Bad video card drivers!
#3377 [22:28] <wippler> The rest did not copy and paste sorry
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#3380 [22:34] <wippler> Ok then, thanks for the help... perhaps an email link to send to developers so they will be aware of the problem, or access to help for customers who have purchased the game. Or money back even. Good evening!
#3381 [22:36] <Pyro_Killer> how many in here use craftboook?
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#3388 [23:13] <Pyro_Killer> btw, i found out 10 ticks (way too long)
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#3390 [23:19] <guest-0-98282> OK i have a question
#3391 [23:19] <Pyro_Killer> yes
#3392 [23:21] <guest-0-98282> My nephew really loved the free beta version of MineCraft and decided to be sneaky and use my Credit card and purchase him self a minecraft account anyway to get a hold of Mojong for a refund? or should i just put a stop payment on it
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#3394 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Probably faster if you do the latter
#3395 [23:21] <guest-0-98282> so stop payment
#3396 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> yes
#3397 [23:22] <guest-0-98282> kk thanks
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#3399 [23:33] <Pyro_Killer> lol, its only like 15 euros
#3400 [23:33] <Pyro_Killer> once
#3401 [23:34] <AndrewPH> mojong
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#3403 [23:35] <AndrewPH> an image of will smith with tiny features is brought to mind.
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#3405 [23:37] <JohnEBH> Still in effect? o.o "We will now support it. | Parts of website are down for maintenance."
#3406 [23:37] <JohnEBH> Cut out "We will now support it" xD
#3407 [23:37] * ankhe [ankhe@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3408 [23:40] <ankhe> I downloaded a "mod" that promised to speed up Minecraft for me, but it turned out to be a virus. I ended up having to delete everything related to my Minecraft launcher and associated files. Afterwards, I re-downloaded the launcher, but the game won't start for me, neither offline or on the main pages in-window browser.
#3409 [23:40] <ankhe> Is there any advice that someone can give to fix this?
#3410 [23:40] <JohnEBH> ??> ankhe win/reinst
#3411 [23:40] <VoxelHead> ankhe: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3412 [23:40] <VoxelHead> ankhe: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3413 [23:43] <ankhe> I have actually already done this. I think the problem is because the file named "lastlogin" no longer exists. This is my guess based on what my start.bat file came up with. It wrote something like "error: lastlogin file cannot be found"
#3414 [23:43] <ankhe> Thing is, I don't know how to get that file back.
#3415 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> Usually happens when something is blocking the connection to the minecraft servers
#3416 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Could you check one thing for us, head to http://login.minecraft.net -- you'll know it works when you see "bad login"
#3417 [23:46] <ankhe> It works. But what is that supposed to mean?
#3418 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Means your computer can connect to minecraft.net's login server..
#3419 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Gmm
#3420 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#3421 [23:48] <ankhe> Oh... I see. Is there a way to fix this?
#3422 [23:48] * huddler [huddler@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3423 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Try a reinstall of minecraft?
#3424 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#3425 [23:48] <ankhe> Windows
#3426 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you try VoxelHead's instructions to reinstall minecraft?
#3427 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> ??> ankhe win/reinst
#3428 [23:48] <VoxelHead> ankhe: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3429 [23:48] <VoxelHead> ankhe: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3430 [23:48] <ankhe> Sure, I can try that again...
#3431 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Also, redownload the launcher
#3432 [23:49] <huddler> Hello
#3433 [23:49] <huddler> I need help with a problem about a premium account.
#3434 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> What about it?
#3435 [23:50] <huddler> The account was purchased in July and the account is till not premium
#3436 [23:50] <huddler> still*
#3437 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a receipt of confirmation of purchase?
#3438 [23:51] <huddler> Yes
#3439 [23:51] <huddler> Emails were sent to support but there have been no replies in over a month.
#3440 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#3441 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> You're sure you purchased an account, and not a gift code for somebody else, correct?
#3442 [23:52] <huddler> Positive.
#3443 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Way to check is to log into the account at minecraft.net and check the profile page there
#3444 [23:52] <huddler> I'm signed in and have checked
#3445 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Also, did you check with whatever you used to pay for minecraft, and looked for a record of payment from the bank/card that you used?
#3446 [23:53] <huddler> Yes, the transaction went through and there's a record of it.
#3447 [23:54] <ankhe> Well that was extremely odd... That was the fourth time I deleted my %appdata%/.minecraft folders and redownloaded the launcher, but this time it worked. I guess something just didn't get downloaded correctly the first THREE times. :| Anyways... Thank you for the help, everyone.
#3448 [23:54] * GreyVulpine tips hat at ankhe
#3448 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> huddler - There's really nothing we can do here for account problems. Really, the only way to resolve this is to contact Mojang directly. You said you've contacted Mojang through the support page?
#3449 [23:55] <huddler> Yes, I have used the support page multiple times and have even sent an email to Notch's own email and still nothing
#3450 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Notch doesn't handle support issues like that
#3451 [23:56] <huddler> It's been over a month since the first email, so it's getting rather tedious to keep sending emails.
#3452 [23:56] <huddler> Well I'm trying anything I can right now.
#3453 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Sent you a PM
#3454 [23:57] <huddler> I see it.
#3455 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Also, hmm..