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#3 [00:03] <huddler> Thanks for the help, hopefully this will be resolved soon
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#5 [00:06] <mohawk> hello
#6 [00:06] <mohawk> I don't really get the wiki instructions
#7 [00:06] <Thrae> mohawk: Hi. What wiki instructions?
#8 [00:06] <mohawk> I have a minecraft server downloaded and running
#9 [00:06] <mohawk> and I have th eclient
#10 [00:07] <mohawk> but on the wiki it says 'pick localhost'
#11 [00:07] <mohawk> and I cannot seem to do that
#12 [00:07] <mohawk> (needless to say this is the first time I am trying to run/play Minecraft)
#13 [00:07] <Thrae> Just type in "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" in Direct Connect and you'll connect to your server.
#14 [00:07] <mohawk> where do you SEE direct connect ?
#15 [00:07] <Thrae> And you're hosting a server too?
#16 [00:07] <mohawk> I got the MC client
#17 [00:07] <mohawk> (yes)
#18 [00:07] <mohawk> from mc.net
#19 [00:08] <mohawk> and when I launch it
#20 [00:08] <Thrae> Are you going to be hosting a server for your friends? As you don't need to.
#21 [00:08] <mohawk> I can only enter "login" and "password"
#22 [00:08] <mohawk> Not really
#23 [00:08] <mohawk> it is just for testing purpose
#24 [00:08] <mohawk> to check out and the game
#25 [00:08] <Thrae> Close the Minecraft Server -- it's for multiplayer
#26 [00:09] <Thrae> And login to the client and go to "Single Player"
#27 [00:09] <mohawk> ok
#28 [00:09] <mohawk> ooh
#29 [00:09] <mohawk> but for that I must have the game purchased already, right ?
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#31 [00:09] <Thrae> For either one you must have purchased the game, yes.
#32 [00:09] <mohawk> there is no "free trial" ? or something related ?
#33 [00:10] <Thrae> ??> mohawk demo
#34 [00:10] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#35 [00:10] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#36 [00:10] <mohawk> :/
#37 [00:10] <mohawk> .exe
#38 [00:10] <mohawk> looks like a windows demo
#39 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> It is
#40 [00:10] <mohawk> Im on OS X
#41 [00:10] <mohawk> with no VM or parallels or anything
#42 [00:10] <Thrae> Well, you can play Minecraft Classic in the browser for free.
#43 [00:11] <mohawk> I thought I could
#44 [00:11] <mohawk> but the java applets clients don't seem to work
#45 [00:11] <mohawk> neither in chrome nor safari
#46 [00:11] <mohawk> I activate them, and get the black screen
#47 [00:12] <Thrae> Go into Software Update. Do you have any updates for Java?
#48 [00:12] <mohawk> then my mouse gets trapped and the black screen won't turn into anything
#49 [00:12] <mohawk> java is up to date
#50 [00:12] <Thrae> ??> mohawk java/version
#51 [00:12] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#52 [00:12] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#53 [00:12] <Thrae> Tell us your Java version and your OS X version.
#54 [00:13] <mohawk> Im on OS X 10.7
#55 [00:13] <mohawk> (10.7.1 I guess)
#56 [00:14] <mohawk> and it says java is up to date
#57 [00:14] <Thrae> And the version?
#58 [00:14] <mohawk> so I assume it's 7
#59 [00:14] <mohawk> Software Update auto updates it
#60 [00:15] <mohawk> I got the new version 2 weeks ago and Im confident it's the last one
#61 [00:15] <Thrae> Oh right, Macs don't get their version from that page. Go to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
#62 [00:15] <mohawk> my bad
#63 [00:15] <mohawk> java 6 ud 26
#64 [00:16] <Thrae> Alright, great.
#65 [00:16] <mohawk> (whatever happens next, thank you very much for your patience anyway)
#66 [00:17] <Thrae> So a black screen in Minecraft Classic for both Chrome and Safari, you have Java 6 Update 26 (which doesn't come with Lion, hence I asked)....hmmm....
#67 [00:18] <mohawk> yea
#68 [00:18] <mohawk> interstingly enough
#69 [00:18] <mohawk> while it is asking me the numerous authorizations to run the applets
#70 [00:18] <mohawk> I can see a MINECRAFT logo on the black screen
#71 [00:18] <mohawk> but it disappears fast
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#73 [00:19] <mohawk> the black screen remains
#74 [00:19] <mohawk> but I can see the applet saturating my RAM
#75 [00:19] <mohawk> and pushing my CPU to 100%.......
#76 [00:20] <Thrae> OK, I can think of only one thing, and that's deleting the Java cache -- http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20040815225320580
#77 [00:20] <Thrae> That's for 1.4.2 but it applies here as well
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#79 [00:21] <Thrae> Also go ahead and delete your browser cache / temporary files too
#80 [00:22] <mohawk> hm
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#82 [00:22] <mib_d7drcl> hey is there
#83 [00:22] <mohawk> my cache folder is 102 bytes large
#84 [00:22] <mib_d7drcl> a new mc build coming out
#85 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_d7drcl - In due time
#86 [00:22] <mib_d7drcl> tommrow
#87 [00:22] <mohawk> hurray
#88 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Probably not tomorrow
#89 [00:24] <ankhe> Erm... Hello again. I apologize for being a nuisance. But my computer has over 6,000 GB of RAM available to use at any given time, but my computer is only allocating a little less than 500 GB of RAM to Minecraft which is causing it lag/run very slowly. How can I tell my computer to give more RAM to Minecraft?
#90 [00:25] <mib_d7drcl> whats going to be added in mc build 1.8.2
#91 [00:25] <mohawk> Thrae: thanks for your help, but it didn't work
#92 [00:25] <mohawk> I'll git it a try on my windows machine though
#93 [00:25] <Thrae> ankhe: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat will allocate 1GB and go up to 2GB
#94 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> mib_d7drcl - Probably nothing, since work is being done on 1.9
#95 [00:26] <mohawk> 6000 GB RAM seems huge
#96 [00:26] <mib_d7drcl> what about exp orbs lag again
#97 [00:26] <mohawk> and probably requires a Windows 256bit OS
#98 [00:26] <ankhe> Custom built computer I made especially for gaming.
#99 [00:27] <Thrae> mohawk: He means MB ;)
#100 [00:27] <mib_d7drcl> megabytes
#101 [00:27] <ankhe> Oh, did I mistype? Sorry. :P
#102 [00:27] <mohawk> Thrae: orly :) :p
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#104 [00:27] <ankhe> Yeah, I meant MB. It's 6GB total. :)
#105 [00:27] <mohawk> what OS ?
#106 [00:28] <ankhe> Just Windows.
#107 [00:28] <mohawk> 7 ?
#108 [00:28] <ankhe> Yeah.
#109 [00:28] <ankhe> There's probably better ones out there. I just prefer Windows since I've grown up with it.
#110 [00:28] <Thrae> Unfortunately, Windows is the best OS for high-performance PC gaming.
#111 [00:30] <ankhe> Thrae, that file that I tried to download comes up with this error, "Could not create the Java virtual machine."
#112 [00:30] <Thrae> ankhe: Hmm, that usually indicates you don't have enough memory, or there's something wrong with your 64-bit Java. OK, try this one -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft.bat
#113 [00:31] <Thrae> Note that to have 6GB free, you would have to have more than 6GB total.
#114 [00:31] <ankhe> I do.
#115 [00:31] <ankhe> I can check real quick for the exact number.
#116 [00:32] <Thrae> ??> ankhe java/version
#117 [00:32] <VoxelHead> ankhe: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#118 [00:32] <VoxelHead> ankhe: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#119 [00:32] <Thrae> ankhe: What version of Java do you have installed? Use a 64-bit browser.
#120 [00:33] <ankhe> The second download didn't come up with an error.
#121 [00:33] <ankhe> Also, it is 6020 MB available.
#122 [00:33] <Thrae> Yeah, sounds like it's a problem with your 64-bit Java installation then.
#123 [00:34] <Thrae> Well the second download uses your default Java installation (either 32-bit or 64-bit) and goes from 1GB to 1.35GB (the max for 32-bit).
#124 [00:34] <ankhe> Yeah, the third link you gave is saying an update is available. Odd though, I just updated it several days ago. :P
#125 [00:34] <Thrae> Maybe you don't have Java 6 Update 27?
#126 [00:34] <Thrae> Although I'm not sure why you wouldn't if you just updated.
#127 [00:35] <ankhe> Version update 26 is what I have.
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#129 [00:35] <ankhe> Yeah, it's odd. I guess I'll just re-update. :)
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#131 [00:35] <Dragon> hello i need help with my minecraft on mac
#132 [00:35] <Thrae> Maybe you updated 32-bit but not 64-bit -- they are separate.
#133 [00:36] <Thrae> Dragon: What's your OS X version?
#134 [00:36] <Thrae> And what's your problem?
#135 [00:36] <mohawk> sorry I was disconnected
#136 [00:36] <Dragon> i open my my minecraft fine it goes to the menu page but when i try to go on single player or multi player it has a black screen
#137 [00:36] <mohawk> the RAM issue was fixed ?
#138 [00:36] <ankhe> Alright, well to update it I need to close my current programs and restart my system. Will I need download those .bat files again afterwards?
#139 [00:36] <mohawk> lol Dragon
#140 [00:37] <Thrae> mohawk: Hopefully.
#141 [00:37] <Thrae> ankhe: Nope.
#142 [00:37] <Thrae> Dragon: OK, and your OS X version?
#143 [00:37] <ankhe> Alright, well thank you very much for helping me out again. :)
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#145 [00:38] <Dragon> my version is OS X 10.5.8
#146 [00:38] <mib_qgg32t> hi i have a problem with mine craft :(
#147 [00:38] <mohawk> Chat motd says
#148 [00:38] <Thrae> Dragon: OK, and you're trying to play Beta?
#149 [00:38] <mohawk> Minecraft won't work on OS X 10.5.8
#150 [00:39] <mohawk> "ATTENTION TO ALL USERS RUNNING OS X 10.5.8 :: MINECRAFT WILL WORK AGAIN FOR YOU IN 1.9! Can't wait? Check out this: http://u.kealper.com/MBlr (NOTE: This link is a game modification, all support for it should be directed at the creator of it and not #MinecraftHelp.)"
#151 [00:39] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: Yes?
#152 [00:39] <Dragon> yes beta
#153 [00:39] <mib_qgg32t> yes i had bought the game but when i try to log in it says I'm not premium
#154 [00:39] <Thrae> ??> Dragon mac/10.5.8
#155 [00:39] <VoxelHead> Dragon: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#156 [00:39] <VoxelHead> Dragon: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#157 [00:39] <mohawk> ??> demo
#158 [00:40] <Thrae> Dragon: You most likely have an Intel GMA chipset (popular on Macbooks and older Macs) and that should fix it.
#159 [00:40] <mib_qgg32t> i have 10.7.1
#160 [00:40] <mohawk> ??> mohawk demo
#161 [00:40] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#162 [00:40] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#163 [00:40] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: OK, how long ago did you purchase Minecraft and what's your username?
#164 [00:41] <mib_qgg32t> my username is vivid_element and i bought the game 8/12/11
#165 [00:41] <Thrae> !paid vivid_element
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#167 [00:41] <mib_qgg32t> i have an email saying that it IS confirmed though
#168 [00:41] <mib_qgg32t> i have a verification code and everything
#169 [00:42] <mib_d7drcl> what will ender pearls do?
#170 [00:42] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: Hmm, what's your email address? If you don't want to say it in channel do /msg Thrae myemailaddress
#171 [00:42] <mohawk> impressive IRC integration
#172 [00:42] <mohawk> Thrae: are you a minecraft employee ?
#173 [00:43] <Thrae> No. We usually don't have Mojang/Minecraft employees in here.
#174 [00:43] <mohawk> You seem very.. dedicated
#175 [00:44] <mib_qgg32t> and the weirdest part about my account problem is that it was working at one point
#176 [00:44] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: OK, I went to http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename and sent your username to the email address you provided me. That means your email address IS on file. Check your email and see what it says your username is.
#177 [00:45] <Thrae> mohawk: I just get bored and someone has to do it.
#178 [00:45] <mib_qgg32t> i just got the email and it said my one and only username, vivid_element, now what?
#179 [00:45] <mohawk> yes someone has to
#180 [00:45] <mohawk> but with 3.5 million downloads at a 20 dollar retail price
#181 [00:45] <mohawk> it's 70 millions dollars that could be spent on live support
#182 [00:46] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: OK, do you have any other email addresses?
#183 [00:46] <mib_qgg32t> yes
#184 [00:46] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: Go to http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename and put 'em in.
#185 [00:46] <mib_qgg32t> what will this do?
#186 [00:46] <mohawk> send you back your username
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#188 [00:46] <mohawk> in case you had several accounts
#189 [00:47] <mohawk> and didn't pay for the one you're thinking you did
#190 [00:47] <mib_qgg32t> i don't have any other accounts though, should i try anyway
#191 [00:47] <mohawk> worth trying
#192 [00:47] <mohawk> but Thrae will correct me if I'm wrong
#193 [00:47] <Thrae> mohawk: Well, to Mojang's credit, the game is still in Beta and people are paying for the privilege of testing it and getting a cheaper pre-order. There are also a lot of other costs associated, like hosting.
#194 [00:48] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: Yes go ahead and try anyway. Most likely another email address is associated with your Premium account.
#195 [00:48] <mohawk> Thrae: yes but "paying for the privilege of testing" sounds oxymoronic to me
#196 [00:49] <mohawk> Thrae: and hosting should be cheap
#197 [00:49] <mib_qgg32t> ok, so i put in another one of my email addresses and it said success! we sent an email to your index, or something like that now what
#198 [00:49] <mohawk> Thrae: especially if people host their own servers
#199 [00:49] <mohawk> mib_qgg32t: now you check this address
#200 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - How much hosting do you think Mojang does?
#201 [00:49] <mohawk> mib_qgg32t: retrive the new username
#202 [00:49] <mohawk> mib_qgg32t: login and play !
#203 [00:49] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: I don't even know what Mojang does
#204 [00:49] <Thrae> It's common for online game to provide access to private beta access for paid pre-orders. It lets you play the game now instead of later, and also have a voice in the development.
#205 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Mojang develops Minecraft. What goes on in the development of Minecraft?
#206 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> I'd like to know your reasoning behind the statement you made, "hosting is cheap"
#207 [00:50] <mohawk> I don't know how common it is (I received my starcraft 2 beta for free back in the days)
#208 [00:50] <Thrae> Minecraft's hosting servers need to authenticate everyone and send skins -- this is very expensive the more people you have.
#209 [00:51] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: I still live by the myth that Minecraft is a one-person project (Notch ?)
#210 [00:51] <mohawk> hosting is cheap
#211 [00:51] <mohawk> because it's 2011
#212 [00:51] <Thrae> Yes, but that wasn't a public beta. If you pre-ordered Starcraft 2 you got a Beta key. Otherwise, you had to be chosen as a tester.
#213 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is a 2 person project currently, Notch and Jeb work on it
#214 [00:51] <mib_d7drcl> they need more people to them?
#215 [00:51] <mohawk> yea I was randomly picked you're right
#216 [00:51] <BlackGyver> Isn't that amazing ? They hire a bunch of people, just so they work on something else !
#217 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Alright then. Let's see you host 40 megs of minecraft, stream it via a CDN times 3.5 million people. Many people won't download minecraft just once. How much bandwidth is that?
#218 [00:52] <mohawk> Thrae: GreyVulpine: I didn't know they were still authenticating every connection and actually transferring data
#219 [00:52] <mib_d7drcl> i mean they more people to help them
#220 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> They authenticate every connection, and stream skins to each server, every time a user connects
#221 [00:52] <mib_d7drcl> *they need more people to help them
#222 [00:53] <Thrae> mohawk: Anti-piracy and anti-hacking measure.
#223 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Not only that, they still host a classic server heartbeat server, for all the free people out there
#224 [00:53] <Thrae> They also need to send out updates as well as skins, and they provide in-browser versions which need to download too
#225 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Not only that, they have to host an SSL login server, for all the people that authenticate via the client
#226 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> And on top of that, they need to tie together a database which has all the payment information, to distinguish who's paid, and who isn't.
#227 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> How much bandwidth do you think Mojang takes up on a typical day?
#228 [00:54] <mib_qgg32t> ok so i tried the user names linked with my other email and non of them worked
#229 [00:54] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: What's the other usernames?
#230 [00:55] <mib_qgg32t> PARANORMALxPANDA
#231 [00:55] <mib_qgg32t> paranormalpanda
#232 [00:55] <Thrae> !paid PARANORMALxPANDA
#233 [00:55] <mib_qgg32t> VividElement
#234 [00:55] <mib_d7drcl> !paid Gazionetadmin
#235 [00:56] <mib_d7drcl> why does he not answer
#236 [00:56] <mib_qgg32t> so my PARANORMALxPANDA account HAS paid
#237 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Flood protect
#238 [00:56] <mib_d7drcl> you try
#239 [00:56] <mib_d7drcl> see if it works
#240 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> !paid Gazionetadmin
#241 [00:56] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: Alright you'll have to contact Mojang as none of those accounts are Premium.
#242 [00:57] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: Do you still have your receipt or confirmation email?
#243 [00:57] <mib_qgg32t> yes i fo
#244 [00:57] <mib_qgg32t> do sorry
#245 [00:57] <mib_d7drcl> what about cool-story-bro
#246 [00:57] <mib_d7drcl> lets see for the lol
#247 [00:57] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: Actually, do you have a confirmation email?
#248 [00:57] <mib_qgg32t> yeah i have it
#249 [00:58] <Thrae> What username is in there? Vivid_Element?
#250 [00:58] <mib_qgg32t> yes
#251 [00:58] <KKK> U MAD BRO?
#252 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> !k kkk
#253 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> !k kkk
#254 [00:59] * GreyBot kicked KKK from #minecrafthelp (Reason: KK :<Kicks:824>)
#255 [00:59] * GreyVulpine yawns
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#256 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> !kb kkk
#257 [00:59] * GreyBot kicked KKK from #minecrafthelp (Reason: KK :<Kicks:825>)
#258 [00:59] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: One more thing to try -- go to http://www.minecraft.net/user/redeem and login as Vivid_Element and make sure you don't have any Gift Codes.
#259 [00:59] <mib_qgg32t> how can i tell if i have any
#260 [01:00] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: It
#261 [01:00] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: It's on your Profile page.
#262 [01:00] <mib_qgg32t> oh ok, it says i have none
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#264 [01:01] <mohawk> wow
#265 [01:01] <mohawk> did the -whole internet crashed ?
#266 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> No
#267 [01:01] <mohawk> ko just me then
#268 [01:01] <mohawk> I was just saying
#269 [01:01] <mohawk> that distributing 300kB files
#270 [01:02] <mohawk> 12 millions times
#271 [01:02] <mohawk> over 5 years
#272 [01:02] <mohawk> is cheap
#273 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft hasn't been out that long
#274 [01:02] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: Go to http://www.minecraft.net/support/ , click on Account, then Premium, then "I paid for premium but my account is still regular". Check all the boxes and click "I need further support". Do you get white boxes you can type info into?
#275 [01:02] <mohawk> especially when you make 70 million dollars out of it
#276 [01:02] <mohawk> take the apple app store
#277 [01:02] <mohawk> it is profitable with larger downloads, larger operating costs, cheaper apps, and only 30% of the revenues
#278 [01:02] <mohawk> so the hosting cannot be the only cost
#279 [01:03] <mib_qgg32t> no, i just get grey and theres no typing space
#280 [01:03] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: You mean the button turns gray and no boxes/fields appear?
#281 [01:04] <mib_qgg32t> i clicked on the orange "need further support" and then a grey drop down appears under it with nothing but grey in it
#282 [01:05] <Dragon> ok just letting you know i just tried that http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ and it didn't work instead it just went strait to a black screen
#283 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - How about 40 megs, times a few million downloads, every time minecraft updates?
#284 [01:05] <|Kiikun|> Dragon: did you delete or rename meta-inf?
#285 [01:06] <Dragon> yes i did delete it
#286 [01:06] <Thrae> mib_qgg32t: Yeah, OK, so that bug is still there for more than just me. OK, contact payment@mojang.com from the email address that the confirmation email was sent to and copy in the confirmation email's contents, explaining the situation. Attach the receipt too.
#287 [01:06] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: I don't know the update pace
#288 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Every couple of months
#289 [01:06] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: but yeah, even with that, which is obviously overestimated
#290 [01:06] <BlackGyver> GreyVulpine, can I be your 826 ?
#291 [01:06] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: it's still not adding to 70 millions
#292 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> That's an understatement.
#293 [01:06] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: not even to 1
#294 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> No, but you're acting like Mojang's only contribution, is to spend every penny on minecraft development
#295 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Which is a death knell for any company to do
#296 [01:07] <mohawk> nononono
#297 [01:07] <mohawk> not at all
#298 [01:07] <mohawk> actually I am checking their blog atm
#299 [01:07] <mohawk> and I can see there is more than 2 people working on it
#300 [01:07] <mib_qgg32t> ok thank you soooooo much thrae, you rock thanks for the help i have to go sleep now.
#301 [01:07] <mohawk> but what I can tell about Minecraft
#302 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> There is.. Jeb and Notch work on Minecraft. Tobias works on the web end
#303 [01:07] <mohawk> is that the community is really amazing
#304 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> Daniel is their business director
#305 [01:07] <mib_qgg32t> i really appreciate it, see ya
#306 [01:07] <Thrae> 70 million isn't even the right figure -- Paypal and Moneybrokers takes a %, as their business model, there's currency conversion, and possible taxes too.
#307 [01:08] <mohawk> but the game is still... not cheap
#308 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> There's about a dozen or so people working on minecraft
#309 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> er, at mojang
#310 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> There's 2, working on minecraft
#311 [01:08] <Dragon> anyone help me?
#312 [01:08] <mohawk> Thrae: you're right, but the game is more than 20 bucks, I rounded it down to make up for that
#313 [01:08] <mohawk> Dragon: sure
#314 [01:08] <Dragon> ok cool
#315 [01:09] <Dragon> ok just letting you know i just tried that http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ and it didn't work instead it just went strait to a black screen
#316 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> With that 20 bucks, you're getting unlimited downloads, which you can install on any PC you own. Unlimited updates and bug fixes, and the final release for a fraction of what it would cost
#317 [01:09] <Thrae> Dragon: Hmm, that fix *should* work, but unfortunately I think we're all non-Mac users
#318 [01:09] <Dragon> ohh ok that sucks :P
#319 [01:09] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: dont forget that we tell probably a hundred peopel a day to forceupdate :P
#320 [01:10] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: starcraft2 is offering the same thing, for 60 dollars, but with a larger team
#321 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> There's NO DRM, like other big name developers, quick and agile bug fixes and development, and the indie way of advertising
#322 [01:10] <mohawk> yea
#323 [01:10] <mohawk> you say it
#324 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Sure, you've got probably hundreds of coders, a team of artists, a marketing team...
#325 [01:10] <mohawk> no penny spent on DRM dev
#326 [01:10] <mohawk> no penny spent on ad
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#328 [01:10] <mohawk> no penny spent on anything
#329 [01:10] <mohawk> so how do you come up with 20 dollars ?
#330 [01:10] <Induril> hey guys
#331 [01:10] <mohawk> this is insane, I think
#332 [01:10] <|Kiikun|> Induril: 'ello dere
#333 [01:11] <Induril> having some serious trouble with my minecraft
#334 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Maybe they should work for free then?
#335 [01:11] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: no, why would they ?
#336 [01:11] <Induril> everytime i try log in
#337 [01:11] <Thrae> mohawk: Blizzard is owned by an even bigger company, Vivendi, and have a much, much larger budget, as well as owning their own data centers. And the code for SC2 is based off their previous games, WC3, Starcraft, WoW.
#338 [01:11] <|Kiikun|> Induril: explain in detail and we may be able to fix :D
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#340 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> I got 2 hours worth of enjoyment out of minecraft. That's about 20 bucks from my wages. I probably shouldn've have spent 60 bucks on it?
#341 [01:11] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: why always trying to drag a debate into sterile irony ?
#342 [01:11] <Induril> i everytime i try log in
#343 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> How much enjoyment do you get out of minecraft?
#344 [01:11] <mohawk> 0
#345 [01:11] <Induril> i get cant connect to minecraft.net
#346 [01:12] <mohawk> I didn't pay for it yet
#347 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> How much do you think minecraft is worth to you?
#348 [01:12] <Thrae> !client
#349 [01:12] <Induril> or login failed
#350 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Well then.
#351 [01:12] <mohawk> I have no idea
#352 [01:12] <mohawk> I want to try it
#353 [01:12] <Thrae> Induril: Download the latest launcher for your OS ^^^^^^^
#354 [01:12] <mohawk> but everything failed
#355 [01:12] <Induril> done
#356 [01:12] <Induril> didnt change it
#357 [01:12] <Thrae> Induril: OK, Windows, Mac, Linux, other?
#358 [01:12] <mohawk> and this not really how market works, because a company could come up with the same Minecraft but a price that matches their costs
#359 [01:13] <Induril> Windows
#360 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> 20 bucks is a few days worth of fast food.
#361 [01:13] <Induril> 7
#362 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> I get more enjoyment playing minecraft, than eating that crap
#363 [01:13] * |Kiikun| points out the URLs for clients moved with the recent web upgrades.
#363 [01:13] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: and 100 is some more days
#364 [01:13] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: so pay more then, donate
#365 [01:13] <Thrae> Induril: Go to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp and make sure Java works and tell us your version of Java.
#366 [01:13] <Induril> Greyvulpine : Agreed
#367 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> I've donated over a year of free support to the Mojang team
#368 [01:13] * Thrae plays Minecraft WHILE eating "that crap"
#368 [01:14] <Induril> Thrae: current version
#369 [01:14] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: wow
#370 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> I've talked, and helped shape the develpment of Minecraft.
#371 [01:14] * |Kiikun| sadly eats that crap on way to and from work
#371 [01:14] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: so there is even income I am not aware of
#372 [01:14] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: donations
#373 [01:14] <Thrae> Induril: We need something other than "Current Version", otherwise we wouldn't ask your version.
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#375 [01:14] <|Kiikun|> mohawk: he said TIME. not cash.
#376 [01:14] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: Just tried them -- links still work for me.
#377 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> I've asked for nothing in return from the Mojang team
#378 [01:15] <mohawk> Kiikun
#379 [01:15] <mohawk> time is cash
#380 [01:15] <|Kiikun|> mohawk: this channel wouldnt exist without us freelance geeking :#
#381 [01:15] <mohawk> he said it himself
#382 [01:15] <Induril> Thrae: sorry i downloaded the latest version yesterday, thats all. its se 6 update 27
#383 [01:15] <ymum> my minecarft is fucked and i am a mac
#384 [01:15] * AuBot kicked ymum from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mum :Please keep it civil.)
#385 [01:15] <mohawk> 20 bucks is a portion of his worktime
#386 [01:15] <Thrae> Induril: OK, do you have any security software installed on the computer?
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#388 [01:15] <Carrot> He's a mac?
#389 [01:16] <Induril> Thrae: Yes, Trend Micro Java is on the exception list
#390 [01:16] <mohawk> I'm just a bit confused, you know
#391 [01:16] <|Kiikun|> ymum: you on mac 10.5.8?
#392 [01:16] <mohawk> not trying to troll/hate or anything
#393 [01:16] <Induril> Thrae: Same with the minecraft launcher
#394 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Nothing too confusing about it.
#395 [01:16] <ymum> yes
#396 [01:16] <|Kiikun|> ??> ymum mac/10.5.8
#397 [01:16] <VoxelHead> ymum: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#398 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Why do WoW players pay 15 bucks a month for a subscription?
#399 [01:16] <VoxelHead> ymum: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#400 [01:16] <mohawk> it's not about how much you think it is worth
#401 [01:16] <mohawk> it's about how much it costs
#402 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Why do many MMO players pay money monthy for games?
#403 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Hosting is cheap, isn't it?
#404 [01:16] <Carrot> Only WoW ones
#405 [01:17] * |Kiikun| has had far more enjoyment out of minecraft than ANY pay2play mmo.
#405 [01:17] <Thrae> mohawk: I think everyone's really arguing out of ignorance -- we don't really know what their costs are, nor what their profit margin is.
#406 [01:17] <mohawk> lol
#407 [01:17] <mohawk> hosting IS cheap
#408 [01:17] <mohawk> having servers guaranteed to run 24/7
#409 [01:17] <mohawk> and live support
#410 [01:17] <mohawk> and serving millions of request every minute
#411 [01:17] <mohawk> is expensive
#412 [01:17] <Carrot> MC has live support :P
#413 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - What I'm trying to get at here, is that Mojang is a business. They're not here for the people. The point of a business is to profit.
#414 [01:17] <ymum> i do it but it is not working
#415 [01:17] <mohawk> (but far less than 15 bucks a month)
#416 [01:17] <|Kiikun|> us :D
#417 [01:17] <Dragon> ymum: i had the same trouble
#418 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> A single person, is paying 20 bucks, USD, once
#419 [01:18] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: I never questioned
#420 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> Heck, I got it back in alpha, when it was even cheaper.
#421 [01:18] <Dragon> ymum: i have the same trouble
#422 [01:18] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: I'm even stating that, if they were priced at 6 dollars, I'd have bought it without even trying
#423 [01:18] <Induril> Thrae : i do but both minecraft and java are on the exception list which gives them access
#424 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> It was 15 bucks, back then, 10 euros.
#425 [01:18] <Thrae> As someone who worked in support for MMORPGs, as well as for an ISP, I can tell you support can be cheaper than the hardware. You want to spend a huge amount of money on your hosting as, if that fails or lags, you will then get increased costs for support (which is generally done by the lowest bidder).
#426 [01:18] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: so more money for them
#427 [01:18] <ymum> so
#428 [01:18] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Sure. And people buy it.
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#431 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - If you don't think 20 bucks is worth the enjoyment of playing minecraft. Then don't buy it. It's really rather simple
#432 [01:19] <Thrae> Induril: OK, go ahead and try disabling Trend Micro completely.
#433 [01:19] <mohawk> Thrae: good point
#434 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> The price of minecraft is due to go up, when minecraft is actually "released"
#435 [01:19] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: you're quite dense it seems
#436 [01:19] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: I never said it wasn't worth it
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#438 [01:19] <Induril> Thrae: Tried this already, also tried running it in safe mode
#439 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> No, but you're questioning why minecraft costs 20 bucks.
#440 [01:20] <mohawk> I even said I didn't even try it
#441 [01:20] <Carrot> GreyVulpine: Not only that, but all Beta players and people who bought it after the full-release will only get Bug-Fixes
#442 [01:20] <Carrot> Whilst alpha players get free DLCs :D
#443 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#444 [01:20] <Thrae> Induril: Go to http://login.minecraft.net . You should see "Bad Login".
#445 [01:20] <mohawk> wow
#446 [01:20] <mohawk> not even blizzard does that
#447 [01:20] <Induril> Thrae: Yup
#448 [01:20] <mohawk> retroactive superusers
#449 [01:21] * Thrae wishes he had bought in Alpha...think he bought right at Beta
#449 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> Because alpha people paid for a quite unfinished product, they were promised free DLCs when minecraft is released.
#450 [01:21] <Induril> MC has dlc?
#451 [01:21] <Thrae> Not yet
#452 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> No.
#453 [01:21] <Phthnuh> I'm having an issue with game crashes, tried a fresh install of both Minecraft and Java, anyone think they can help me out? Not using any texture packs.
#454 [01:21] <AndrewPH> It (probably) will
#455 [01:21] * |Kiikun| woudl like the option to buy up to alpha :P
#455 [01:21] <Induril> oh get ya
#456 [01:21] <GreyVulpine> There has been no talk of DLCs, yet
#457 [01:21] <BlackGyver> Everything has DLCs nowadays.
#458 [01:21] <BlackGyver> Excuse for making people pay more.
#459 [01:22] <Induril> Thrae: Got bad login
#460 [01:22] <Thrae> Induril: OK, hmmm. What is your current system time and date?
#461 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Just the promise, that if minecraft comes out with DLCs, people who purchase an account back in alpha, will get them for free.
#462 [01:22] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: notch mentioned some ideas for post-release content in his 'Why No Steam' post.
#463 [01:22] <AndrewPH> BlackGyver: Explain valve's dlc
#464 [01:22] * GreyVulpine nods
#464 [01:22] <AndrewPH> all of it's free afaik
#465 [01:22] <Induril> Thrae: 5:22pm 22/09/2011
#466 [01:22] <AndrewPH> (valve's, for valve games)
#467 [01:22] <Thrae> Induril: When you login to http://www.minecraft.net with the same username and password, can you play Beta in browser?
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#469 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> \o
#470 [01:22] <BlackGyver> AndrewPH, which ones ?
#471 [01:23] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: imagine a company coming up with the exact same Minecraft, but at 10 bucks retail price. Would you still buy the one from the 20$ reseller ?
#472 [01:23] <Thrae> Induril: Is 5:22pm right for your time zone?
#473 [01:23] <Induril> Thrae: No, Java loads minecraft update downlaoder appears momentarily then java window crashes
#474 [01:23] <Induril> Thrae: Yes
#475 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - There's no reseller for minecraft. The only way to purchase minecraft is from Mojang itself.
#476 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> So your argument is invalid
#477 [01:23] <AndrewPH> BlackGyver: all of them
#478 [01:23] <AndrewPH> afaik all the dlc is free
#479 [01:23] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: god. I said imagine.
#480 [01:23] <mohawk> GreyVulpine: is it SO hard ?
#481 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> If you want a minecraft-clone, there's tons of them out there.
#482 [01:23] <AndrewPH> all of valve's*
#483 [01:23] <mohawk> oh
#484 [01:23] <mohawk> link ?
#485 [01:24] <Thrae> Induril: Is there a ! in your windows username?
#486 [01:24] <AndrewPH> mohawk: manicdigger
#487 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> There's terrania for Steam, there's fortresscraft for Xbox indie thing.
#488 [01:24] <BlackGyver> AndrewPH, which ones ?* I can't remember any Valve DLCs.
#489 [01:24] <Induril> Thrae: when i say the java window crashes i mean it goes black then white then black again
#490 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is even coming out with their own xbox release
#491 [01:24] <AndrewPH> BlackGyver: l4d/l4d2, portal 2 will have some
#492 [01:24] <Induril> Thrae: No ! in windows username
#493 [01:24] <AndrewPH> I'm forgetting something
#494 [01:24] <mohawk> ok interesting
#495 [01:24] <AndrewPH> Maybe not
#496 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> There's probably a half dozen releases trying to bank on Minecraft's success
#497 [01:25] <Phthnuh> I'm having an issue with game crashes, tried a fresh install of both Minecraft and Java, anyone think they can help me out? Not using any texture packs and worked fine with no issues prior to 1.8
#498 [01:25] <Thrae> Induril: OK, let's try cleaning out Java. Go to Programs and Features and remove all versions of Java found there, then reinstall both 32-bit and 64-bit from here -- http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#499 [01:25] <mohawk> seems like only Minecraft is banking in Minecraft success
#500 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Indeed.
#501 [01:25] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: i remember another one that is starting out with coding for MAssive Battles.
#502 [01:25] * Thrae thinks Terraria is pretty popular too, just much younger and not mod-friendly yet
#502 [01:25] <BlackGyver> AndrewPH, there's no DLC for L4D and L4D2.
#503 [01:26] <AndrewPH> BlackGyver: They're counted as updates then
#504 [01:26] <AndrewPH> but they added campaigns way after release
#505 [01:26] <|Kiikun|> Thrae: it is popular in its own right, might have rode the wave of minecraft up, but its got its own fans :3
#506 [01:26] <mohawk> ok it was nice chatting here
#507 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> |Kiikun| - I remember another minecraft clone that was free, for PC, early alpha, was a shooter
#508 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Can't remember the name of it
#509 [01:26] <mohawk> have a good time
#510 [01:27] <Thrae> I also wouldn't call Terraria a "Minecraft Clone"
#511 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> "inspired by" then
#512 [01:27] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: Yeah, it's inspired by Minecraft, but different in important ways that people like and dislike.
#513 [01:27] <Induril> I believe terraria was released before minecraft
#514 [01:27] <|Kiikun|> All games are inspired by PONG!
#515 [01:27] <|Kiikun|> :P
#516 [01:27] <BlackGyver> Induril, nope.
#517 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> terraria was released after minecraft
#518 [01:27] <AndrewPH> Minecraft hasn't been released yet :p
#519 [01:27] <Induril> and minecraft itself isnt entirely original either
#520 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Didn't say it was
#521 [01:27] <Induril> it was based off a previous game
#522 [01:28] <Thrae> Yeah, Minecraft is a clone of Lego World :D
#523 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> One or two, yeah
#524 [01:28] <BlackGyver> Bring back the infiniminer
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#526 [01:28] <BlackGyver> And the manic digger wars
#527 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, those two
#528 [01:28] <|Kiikun|> notch mentioned infiniminer i believe
#529 [01:28] <|Kiikun|> oh.. m:P
#530 [01:28] * GreyVulpine nods
#530 [01:28] <Wombatunder> is the classic on the website not working?
#531 [01:28] <BlackGyver> More like Manic Dicker.
#532 [01:28] <AndrewPH> BlackGyver: Oh god the shitstorm over manicdigger. Notch even contradicted himself and called it a blatant ripoff, it had tons of shit that minecraft didn't have at that point.
#533 [01:28] <BlackGyver> Hehehe.
#534 [01:29] <BlackGyver> Yeah, those were the glorious days.
#535 [01:29] <AndrewPH> "I like clones but not this one!"
#536 [01:29] <Thrae> Now Minecraft's splash screen even advertises other indie games :)
#537 [01:29] <BlackGyver> Well, it also had tons of shit that were suspiciously close to Minecraft.
#538 [01:30] <Thrae> Wombatunder: Just checked myself -- working fine.
#539 [01:30] <AndrewPH> BlackGyver: Yeah but at the time it was quite different
#540 [01:30] <Wombatunder> hmm, It won't start for me
#541 [01:31] <Thrae> Wombatunder: OK, Windows, Mac, Linux, other? Have you tried a different browser, like Chrome or Firefox?
#542 [01:31] <BlackGyver> Yeah, I believe Notch went after one issue in particular, but might have been pushed by the raging masses.
#543 [01:31] <Phthnuh> I'm having an issue with game crashes, tried a fresh install of both Minecraft and Java, anyone think they can help me out? Not using any texture packs and worked fine with no issues prior to 1.8
#544 [01:31] <Thrae> Phthnuh: Windows, Mac, Linux, other?
#545 [01:32] <Phthnuh> Thrae: Windows 7 (64 bit)
#546 [01:32] <Wombatunder> windows 7 ultimate, 64 bit. firefox 5.0 not sure what java version though I have had it running before the 1.8 release
#547 [01:32] <Wombatunder> I didn't think it would affect the classic
#548 [01:32] <Thrae> Phthnuh: Does the Beta version in-browser work?
#549 [01:32] <AndrewPH> BlackGyver: Then there was that one ripoff, cubelands, that was minecraft classic with different textures and fancy lighting/shaders
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#551 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> When it crashes, do you guys get any error reports? any files named hs_err_pid that you see generate?
#552 [01:32] <Wombatunder> but I thought I saw someone say in here or #minecraft that parts fo the website weren't working
#553 [01:32] <AndrewPH> It didn't improve on the idea of 'place blocks delete blocks'.
#554 [01:32] <BlackGyver> Some things shouldn't have been done, though. I remember Minecraft fanatics vandalizing Manic Digger's wiki, or sending threats to the creator.
#555 [01:32] <Thrae> Wombatunder: http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp <-- tell me the version from this and make sure Java is working
#556 [01:32] <Induril> Thrae: i installed java 64 from the link you gave
#557 [01:33] <Thrae> Yeah, there are parts of the website not working, but Classic is not one of them.
#558 [01:33] <Induril> Thrae: didnt work
#559 [01:33] <AndrewPH> BlackGyver: yeah the wiki got spammed, forums got spammed, I think exe eventually moved the forums to sourceforge because of it
#560 [01:33] <Thrae> Induril: Install 32-bit too.
#561 [01:33] <Induril> Thrae: Both at once?
#562 [01:33] <Wombatunder> well apparently it's not working
#563 [01:33] <BlackGyver> AndrewPH, don't remember that cubelands at all
#564 [01:33] <Thrae> Induril: Yes, if you have a 64-bit system.
#565 [01:33] <BlackGyver> Does it still exist ?
#566 [01:33] <Phthnuh> Thrae: Checking now
#567 [01:33] <Induril> Thrae: okay doing so
#568 [01:33] <Thrae> Wombatunder: It doesn't work for *you* ;) Tell me how Test Java works.
#569 [01:34] <Wombatunder> sorry, apparently java isn't working on my machine
#570 [01:34] <AndrewPH> BlackGyver: It didn't get hated on for some reason. Not sure
#571 [01:34] <BlackGyver> Weird.
#572 [01:34] <Phthnuh> Thrae: Java crashes there after approx 30 seconds
#573 [01:34] <AndrewPH> Seems to still exist
#574 [01:34] <AndrewPH> I'm surprised it wasn't hated on, when manic digger was
#575 [01:34] <BlackGyver> Have the Minecraft fanatics gone soft ?
#576 [01:34] <Wombatunder> though I installed a java developer pack that someone in here recommended about 1-2 weeks ago
#577 [01:35] <AndrewPH> They were both out there at the time, too
#578 [01:35] <Thrae> Wombatunder: Yeah, go ahead and uninstall all versions of Java from Programs and Features, then install both 32-bit and 64-bit from here -- http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#579 [01:35] <Thrae> Wombatunder: We only recommend Java 6 Update 27 Runtime, not SDK.
#580 [01:35] <Wombatunder> both the 32 and 64 bit?
#581 [01:35] <Thrae> Wombatunder: If you have 64-bit Windows, then download and install 64-bit too.
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#583 [01:35] <Wombatunder> oh ok, I thought I just needed the 64 bit
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#585 [01:35] <Induril> Thrae: Okay that still didnt work
#586 [01:36] <Wombatunder> ok
#587 [01:36] <Thrae> Wombatunder: Oh, that's probably your problem then -- you need 32-bit Java for 32-bit browsers.
#588 [01:36] <Thrae> ??> Induril win/dxdiag
#589 [01:36] <VoxelHead> Induril: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#590 [01:36] <VoxelHead> Induril: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#591 [01:36] <AndrewPH> BlackGyver: Cubelands was literally classic with a few more block types, no liquids as far as I know, and fancy graphics.
#592 [01:36] <AndrewPH> But didn't get hated on at all
#593 [01:36] <BlackGyver> Yeah, checking their website, right now
#594 [01:36] <Thrae> Phthnuh: OK, go to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp and tell me your Java version and if it's working.
#595 [01:37] <BlackGyver> Doesn't seem to have evolved, at all
#596 [01:37] <AndrewPH> Yeah
#597 [01:37] <AndrewPH> not at all
#598 [01:37] <AndrewPH> it seems like it's exactly the same
#599 [01:37] <BlackGyver> Looks like Minecraft success crushed it by itself.
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#601 [01:37] <AndrewPH> same amount of online players :p
#602 [01:37] <AndrewPH> but like 100k more accounts
#603 [01:38] <BlackGyver> 9 players online
#604 [01:38] <BlackGyver> Hahahah
#605 [01:38] <BlackGyver> Says it all.
#606 [01:39] <Phthnuh> Thrae: The Java site shows me running Version 6, Update 27, Appears to be working
#607 [01:39] <AndrewPH> Yep :p
#608 [01:39] <Wombatunder> ok, I have JDK7 update 2 and Java 7 update 2 installed both in 64 bit. I'm going to uninstall them and install 6 update 27 in 32 and 64 bit
#609 [01:39] <Thrae> Phthnuh: Follow VoxelHead's instructions for giving us your DxDiag information.
#610 [01:39] <BlackGyver> Anyway, I believe it's not quite the right channel for this, and I should get to sleep, too.
#611 [01:39] <Thrae> Wombatunder: Yeah, we don't recommend Java 7.
#612 [01:40] <BlackGyver> Good night folks, good night AndrewPH.
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#614 [01:41] <AndrewPH> night weirdo
#615 [01:41] <AndrewPH> :p
#616 [01:41] <Induril> http://pastebin.com/c9LUPMMc
#617 [01:41] <Induril> Thrae: There You GO
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#621 [01:43] <Phthnuh> Thrae: http://pastebin.com/fxdDpRCY - Here is the DxDiag on the system
#622 [01:44] <Thrae> Induril: Hmm I think there's a problem with your display drivers -- they don't seem to properly support DX11, yet they *should*. And if there's a problem with DirectX there's probably a problem with OpenGL (which Minecraft uses). Go to http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx and download and install the Suite.
#623 [01:44] <Induril> Thrae: I already have catalyst suite
#624 [01:45] <Thrae> Induril: That download contains a driver update.
#625 [01:45] <Thrae> Phthnuh: OK, go ahead and download http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft.bat and place it in the same directory as Minecraft.exe, then run the batch file.
#626 [01:46] <Induril> Thrae: i know i downloaded it yesterday along with the new java's
#627 [01:46] <Wombatunder> Thanks Thrae, it's all working now
#628 [01:47] * Thrae nods to Wombatunder
#628 [01:47] <Thrae> Induril: Hmm, lemme double-check the versions.
#629 [01:48] <almostroot> ??> Phthnuh java/version
#630 [01:48] <VoxelHead> Phthnuh: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#631 [01:48] <VoxelHead> Phthnuh: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#632 [01:48] <almostroot> Phthnuh: What version of Java are you using? ^
#633 [01:49] <Thrae> almostroot: <Phthnuh> Thrae: The Java site shows me running Version 6, Update 27, Appears to be working
#634 [01:49] <Thrae> Induril: OK you DO have the latest driver version -- my bad. Odd that DX11 says you don't support DX9-Overlay and DXVA-HD....
#635 [01:49] <Induril> yea
#636 [01:49] <Induril> my thoughts exactly
#637 [01:50] <Wombatunder> ...
#638 [01:50] <Induril> its annoying though cuz it worked up until a few weeks ago
#639 [01:50] <Wombatunder> It's running but I can't load a saved game
#640 [01:50] <Wombatunder> or rather a saved level
#641 [01:50] <Phthnuh> Thrae: The launcher bat, when place in the same folder as Minecraft.exe, just generates an errorlog.txt file that reads "'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file."
#642 [01:50] <Induril> i have been trying for the last few weeks o fix it
#643 [01:51] <Thrae> Induril: Well before we tinker more with the drivers, let's try something else. Download the batch file from http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft.bat and place it in the same folder as Minecraft.exe, then run it.
#644 [01:51] <almostroot> Thrae: The Java Development Kit has to be installed, or the environmental variable for Java has to be created before Java can becalmed from a prompt.
#645 [01:52] <Thrae> Phthnuh: Hmm, sounds like your Java path isn't setup properly. That's probably why Minecraft isn't working.
#646 [01:52] <Induril> Thrae: ok it opened the launcher and same thing
#647 [01:53] <Thrae> almostroot: Starting with Windows XP, unless it's uninstalled somehow, Windows comes with its own Java VM, so the default path of Windows should work too. I know I can use Java on fresh Windows installations without installing the JDK.
#648 [01:54] <almostroot> Thrae: Incorrect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Java_Virtual_Machine
#649 [01:56] <Phthnuh> Thrae: Solutions?
#650 [01:56] <Induril> Thrae: Okay the bat ran the launcher but didnt make a difference
#651 [01:56] <Thrae> almostroot: Hmm, you're right. But on systems with just the official JRE installed I have links in C:\Windows\system32.
#652 [01:57] <Induril> Thrae: Want the error log?
#653 [01:57] <Thrae> Induril: Yes please. Put it in www.pastebin.com.
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#655 [01:57] <Induril> http://pastebin.com/8BPHibv7
#656 [01:57] <Thrae> Phthnuh: I think you should uninstall all versions of Java from Programs and Features and install both 32-bit and 64-bit from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp , but there may be a different fix for your problem.
#657 [01:57] <Induril> Thrae: ^^
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#659 [01:58] <Phthnuh> Thrae: That was my original fix I tried earlier, re-installed Minecraft as well as completely wiped/reinstalled 32 & 64 bit Java
#660 [01:58] <almostroot> Phthnuh and Induril: Have you tried a complete reinstallation of Minecraft? By either manually deleting .minecraft or by running a script?
#661 [01:59] <Phthnuh> @almostroot: Yes
#662 [02:00] <almostroot> Phthnuh: Try removing all versions of Java from your system, running JavaRA, then installing this version of Java: http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/7/jdk-7-windows-x64.exe
#663 [02:00] <almostroot> ??> Phthnuh win/javara
#664 [02:00] <VoxelHead> Phthnuh: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#665 [02:00] <VoxelHead> Phthnuh: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#666 [02:00] <Induril> almostroot: tried it also, only makes it worse
#667 [02:00] <almostroot> Phthnuh: After you remove Java, use JavaRA to remove old versions, then install Java from the link I just provided.
#668 [02:00] <Induril> i can play offline with my current .minecraft
#669 [02:00] <Phthnuh> @almostroot & @VoxelHead, I'll give that a shot
#670 [02:00] <Induril> but cant update or play online
#671 [02:00] <Thrae> Phthnuh: Before you do that, if it's OK with almostroot, I'd like to try fixing Phthnuh's PATH. https://www.java.com/en/download/help/path.xml, follow the instructions for Windows Vista.
#672 [02:00] <Induril> with new installation it doesnt work at all
#673 [02:01] <Phthnuh> Thrae: Sounds good, I'll try that first
#674 [02:01] <Thrae> Phthnuh: First, make sure you have this directory -- "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin" (assuming you have the JRE and not the JDK)
#675 [02:02] <Thrae> Induril: Hmm, that error log seems like there's something wrong with either Java or LWJGL. Did you try JavaRa yet?
#676 [02:02] <Induril> JavaRa?
#677 [02:03] <Thrae> Induril: VoxelHead just linked JavaRa. Go ahead and try using that to remove old Java versions, and also remove "Useless JRE Files" under Advanced.
#678 [02:06] <Induril> okay im running it, but not sure what boxes to check
#679 [02:06] * almostroot sighs.
#679 [02:06] <almostroot> Have fun kids.
#680 [02:06] <Thrae> Induril: Under "Advanced", check "Remove Useless JRE Files". Then close this window and select "Remove old versions"
#681 [02:07] <Induril> oh right okay dont need to check others?
#682 [02:07] <Thrae> Nope.
#683 [02:07] <Induril> done those then
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#689 [02:15] <Induril_> Thrae: okay have done all that just trying one more time
#690 [02:15] <Induril_> Thrae: no luck
#691 [02:16] <Thrae> ??> Induril_ win/reinst/bat
#692 [02:16] <VoxelHead> Induril_: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#693 [02:16] <VoxelHead> Induril_: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#694 [02:16] <Thrae> Induril_: Try that batch file to reinstall Minecraft's files.
#695 [02:17] <Thrae> Induril_: After it's done, run the launcher again and login to re-download the files.
#696 [02:17] <Induril_> can i run it from anywhere this time
#697 [02:17] <Induril_> ?
#698 [02:17] <Thrae> Induril_: Yes.
#699 [02:18] <Induril_> Thrae: still nothing, now i cant play offline either
#700 [02:19] <Thrae> Induril_: OK, did you try it in Safe Mode with Networking?
#701 [02:19] <Induril_> i had done before, not the new files
#702 [02:19] <Induril_> good news though, its downloading in the browser
#703 [02:20] <Thrae> Ah, great. Hopefully it was a cache problem with the browser. Still not sure what's up with the launcher.
#704 [02:20] <Induril_> still i would like to be able to go through the launcher if possible
#705 [02:20] <Thrae> Let me know if you get Beta working in the browser or not.
#706 [02:21] <Thrae> Did I ask if you have a ! in your Windows username?
#707 [02:21] <Induril_> Yea
#708 [02:21] <Wombatunder> can I change my classic *mine save to something that will load in the launcher?
#709 [02:21] <Induril_> i got it working in browser
#710 [02:21] <Thrae> Wombatunder: I do not believe they're compatible.
#711 [02:22] <Wombatunder> I've looked at the list of map editors in the wiki and can't work out if they do
#712 [02:22] <Wombatunder> :(
#713 [02:22] <Wombatunder> I can't get my classic save to load in the browser
#714 [02:22] <Induril_> not sure but MC edit allows you to copy blocks
#715 [02:23] <Thrae> Induril_: OK, hmm. Let's wait 5 minutes in case the login servers have blacklisted you and then try the launcher again. Also, download the launcher from here and overwrite your current one -- http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#716 [02:23] <Induril_> perhaps you could copy the blocks from the older world to your new ones?
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#718 [02:23] <Thrae> Wombatunder: I think in the course of fixing Classic we have deleted where it kept its files. Sorry, I didn't know you had saves.
#719 [02:24] <Wombatunder> no the save is a file on my hard drive
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#721 [02:25] <Thrae> Wombatunder: Right, and I had you uninstall then reinstall Java as well as delete your browser cache. That probably deleted the save from your hard drive for Classic.
#722 [02:25] <Wombatunder> I know where it is and when I go to load the file from the browser based classic single player it pretends to but doesn't, I stay in the randomly generated game
#723 [02:25] <Wombatunder> I can browse to the *.mine file on my hard drive. I saved it in the my docs folder
#724 [02:25] <Thrae> Wombatunder: Wait, did you create this save in Classic browser version?
#725 [02:25] <Wombatunder> yes
#726 [02:26] <Thrae> How long ago?
#727 [02:26] <Wombatunder> before I bought an account
#728 [02:26] <Wombatunder> about a week, maybe 2
#729 [02:26] <Thrae> If you bought Minecraft, why are you still playing Classic? That's the free version.
#730 [02:26] <Wombatunder> I registered, played the classic and saved the file
#731 [02:26] <Wombatunder> then I bought it and have been playing beta but I wanted to show someone what I had done in classic and now it won't load
#732 [02:27] <Wombatunder> it won't save either
#733 [02:29] <Thrae> Wombatunder: OK, are you loading the level from the main menu, "Load level..." ?
#734 [02:31] <Thrae> Hmm, I can't get it to save either.
#735 [02:31] <Wombatunder> yeah, load the browser session. click the game area, hit escape, click load level, it then says loading level then I get an error that says failed to load levels with the load file button underneath it. I then browse to the file on my computer and click open, there's a pause and I go back to the menu.
#736 [02:32] <Wombatunder> ok, so it's not just me :D
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#738 [02:34] <Thrae> Wombatunder: MCEdit is compatible with Classic saves. Since you're just trying to get your world shown, let's try converting it to Beta. Back it up first -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWfZH_klE2w
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#740 [02:36] <Thrae> Wombatunder: Wait...are you logged into minecraft.net right now when playing Classic?
#741 [02:36] <Wombatunder> yeah
#742 [02:37] <Wombatunder> you don't get the save/load options if you're not
#743 [02:37] <Thrae> Yeah. I forgot to login >.<
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#746 [02:42] <Thrae> OK. I need a break. AFK for a while.
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#749 [02:59] <Carzand> Hi
#750 [03:01] <Carzand> Is this the place to go if my password doesn't work?
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#753 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> Carzand - If you're getting login failed in the launcher, try redownloading the launcher
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#756 [03:12] <Emo_sheep> Hey
#757 [03:13] <Carzand> I'm also getting it on the site
#758 [03:13] * GreyVulpine waves
#758 [03:13] <Emo_sheep> Question: How do I gets a refund on minecraft?
#759 [03:13] * TheNoodle waves back
#759 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Carzand - Then your username/password is wrong, try a password recovery? http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#760 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Emo_sheep - Refund policy can be found at minecraft.net/support
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#762 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Under payment -> refund
#763 [03:14] <Carzand> yeah, about that
#764 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Carzand - Hmm?
#765 [03:14] <Carzand> I don't know where these emails are going
#766 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Carzand - That's... not good
#767 [03:14] <Carzand> Because I'm not seeing them
#768 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you're checking the correct email?
#769 [03:16] <Carzand> I'm going through every one now
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#771 [03:16] <Emo_sheep> So Crashes
#772 [03:16] <Induril> Thrae: Hey Thrae
#773 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Emo_sheep - So... crashes?
#774 [03:17] <Emo_sheep> non stop
#775 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Emo_sheep - Any error reports?
#776 [03:17] <Emo_sheep> in 1.8
#777 [03:17] <Induril> Thrae: I managed to fix the issues with the launcher
#778 [03:17] <Emo_sheep> nope none
#779 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Emo_sheep - What happens when it crashes? What are you doing when it crashes?
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#781 [03:17] <Emo_sheep> usually mining or building
#782 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Emo_sheep - And minecraft closes?
#783 [03:18] <Emo_sheep> yep
#784 [03:18] <Induril> Thrae: You There?
#785 [03:18] <Emo_sheep> stops working
#786 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Emo_sheep - Then you'll see a file named hs_err_pidXXXXX
#787 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Please check where your launcher is
#788 [03:18] <Emo_sheep> nope nothing
#789 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Emo_sheep - There will be a file named hs_err_pid when minecraft forceably closes
#790 [03:18] <road_runner> not if its an oom error there isnt
#791 [03:19] <Emo_sheep> windows 7 says its stopped vworking
#792 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Then it's a java problem, have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling java completely?
#793 [03:19] <Emo_sheep> yes and its for 64 bit as well
#794 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> You've removed java entirely from the system before reinstalling it?
#795 [03:20] <Emo_sheep> yes
#796 [03:20] <road_runner> yes she did a clean install on the comp
#797 [03:20] <road_runner> eg os and everything
#798 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> Alright then. When you reinstalled minecraft, what exactly did you do with that?
#799 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> You reinstalled windows?
#800 [03:21] <Emo_sheep> yep and minecraft
#801 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Wait wait, you reinstalled windows as well?
#802 [03:21] <Emo_sheep> its in my documents folder
#803 [03:21] <road_runner> yes she has reinstalled windows aswell
#804 [03:21] <Emo_sheep> thats where 7 put it
#805 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Then what drivers did you install as well, when you reinstalled windows?
#806 [03:22] <road_runner> all of the onese needed and they are upto date
#807 [03:22] <road_runner> eg the latest versions
#808 [03:22] <Emo_sheep> yeah road_runner checked
#809 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate? What drivers did you install, and from what site(s)?
#810 [03:22] <road_runner> the nvidea driver from the nvidea site
#811 [03:22] <road_runner> the ati driver from the ati site
#812 [03:23] <road_runner> and the rest are preinstalled for the clean install as its an oem copy
#813 [03:23] <Emo_sheep> road_runner is my tech guy
#814 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> You're running an nvidia and an ati card?
#815 [03:23] <road_runner> yes
#816 [03:23] <road_runner> the problem isnt clasing
#817 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> That's.. new.
#818 [03:23] <road_runner> not realy i have been doing it fo ryears
#819 [03:23] <GreyVulpine> Usually a computer has one, or the other, not both
#820 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> What video card is installed on the computer?
#821 [03:24] <road_runner> using the onboard nvidea
#822 [03:24] <road_runner> and a pci ati
#823 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> And which one is actually in use?
#824 [03:24] <road_runner> so she has the 3 screens
#825 [03:24] <road_runner> she uses both
#826 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> I see..
#827 [03:24] <RiGi> chm interesting
#828 [03:24] <road_runner> but the same problem occurs when its just the onboard and no extra card
#829 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> Anything in window's event viewer?
#830 [03:25] <road_runner> have already though of that problem
#831 [03:25] <Emo_sheep> nope
#832 [03:25] <Emo_sheep> Its as far as we can tell a massive memory leak
#833 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft normally uses a lot of RAM.
#834 [03:26] <road_runner> ok micrast when your in game and press fsaus its using 300is meg
#835 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> That's normal
#836 [03:26] <road_runner> but the java goes upto 1gig then it crashes
#837 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> I've had minecraft take over a gig of RAM after prolonged use
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#839 [03:26] <road_runner> even though its saying its only using 300ish
#840 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> road_runner - Try a batch file, make sure you're using 64 bit java before doing this: http://pastebin.com/YhRXMsEU
#841 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> This will allocate 2 gigs of RAM to the minecraft/java process
#842 [03:27] <road_runner> only got 2 giog of ram
#843 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I see..
#844 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM is free?
#845 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> (before minecraft launchers)
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#847 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> er, launches
#848 [03:28] <road_runner> 800+meg at the mo
#849 [03:29] <road_runner> but minegraft never alocates more than 50 %
#850 [03:29] <road_runner> it just craqshes
#851 [03:29] <road_runner> ack typing sucks today
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#853 [03:30] <road_runner> wb lol
#854 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
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#856 [03:31] <TheBadShepperd> Vulpine, you could really do with an auto identification script.. ;P
#857 [03:31] <road_runner> rofl
#858 [03:31] <mib_v2h996> hey guys im having a problem recovering my account can anybody help me out?
#859 [03:31] <TheBadShepperd> ??> mib_v2h996 account
#860 [03:31] <VoxelHead> mib_v2h996: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#861 [03:32] <VoxelHead> mib_v2h996: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
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#864 [03:38] <road_runner> Roady Script™
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#871 [03:59] <Wombatunder> Hey Thrae, changing the *.mine worked, however I made it survival instead of creative :D so I had a mad rush for torches in order to light up my buildings :D
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#876 [04:15] <Gurkenglas> Hi. Does somebody know how can I run Minecraft assigning only 1 GB of RAM to it?
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#878 [04:17] <|Kiikun|> Gurkenglas: thats the default. it takes 500 and goes up to 1g
#879 [04:18] <road_runner> Gurkenglas if you havewnt changed anything it only has 1 gig ram assighned as standard
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#882 [04:20] <onejian> Hello guys. need help. I want to play minecraft in browser but I can't - it just shows white screen.
#883 [04:20] <Gurkenglas> kay, i guess i should update the drivers, grmbl
#884 [04:21] <road_runner> lol you should always run the latest drivers
#885 [04:24] <Gurkenglas> This is a library computer, and i have to spend the next 3 hours in some way ^^
#886 [04:25] <Gurkenglas> Cannot find a driver for Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family
#887 [04:25] <Gurkenglas> The Intel download site thats linked on multiple occasions says it doesnt exist anymore
#888 [04:27] <Gurkenglas> ( http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProductID=861&DwnldID=13799 )
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#890 [04:32] <Gurkenglas> What do I do if I cannot get the latest driver for my card?
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#897 [04:50] <amphibulus> hello
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#899 [04:51] <amphibulus> can anyone help me
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#911 [05:46] <b0xxy> http://pastebin.com/F2TxqkHQ - any ideas ? crashing server
#912 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> Ask in #bukkit
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#917 [06:16] <kid13> Hi, having trouble getting Minecraft to work with Intel 915/910 chipset. Updated DirectX, drivers, Java. In looking through all forums I can find, no one seems to have a fix for this, even though Intel says it supports opengl 1.4. I am using the Dell drivers, which say they also support it. The Intel drivers say the the existing one Dell is customized and
#918 [06:16] <kid13> is the onethat should be used, but maybe that is the problem? Like I said, I have not seen any reasonable solution for this, and some it's an Intel problem? Hard to believe...
#919 [06:17] <lemon-rev> kid13 what exactly is trouble ?
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#921 [06:17] <kid13> the typical 'cannot find accelerated opengl' error that a million other people seem to have. Both when using in browser or in client
#922 [06:18] <lemon-rev> hm, just buy a new video card
#923 [06:18] <kid13> it's a laptop
#924 [06:18] <lemon-rev> they have video cards they are just generally more expensive lol
#925 [06:19] <kid13> good one. BUt not really a solution. Are you saying that this supports opengl per Intel, but this chipset does not work? Would be nice to know why.
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#927 [06:20] <NiQue> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me setup a domain for my minecraft server which has a dynamic IP.
#928 [06:20] <lemon-rev> im saying the video or the driver per say ie your intel crap must be updated otherwise you will have the trouble and wont play game
#929 [06:21] <NiQue> Does anyone know how to help me?
#930 [06:21] <lemon-rev> kids13 btw laptops generally arnt gameing platforms
#931 [06:22] <lemon-rev> NiQue you find a sever that has that ablility nd get them to set it up for you
#932 [06:22] <NiQue> Other servers arn't to friendly towards each other though :(
#933 [06:23] <lemon-rev> depends on what you mean by servers / in mc
#934 [06:23] <lemon-rev> you can set one up your self if you really wanted to , or you buy one, and allow much more people to join that one server
#935 [06:24] <NiQue> I mean bukkit servers which people can access by using a domain instead of an IP.
#936 [06:24] <NiQue> I have a server set up, i need no help with that. I'm just stuck at making my domain stick to it.
#937 [06:24] <lemon-rev> hm, nique bukkit servers are just mods that are added to minecraft the domain is masked that is all
#938 [06:25] <kid13> I know that laptops aren't great for games, but it's my kids and works for most everything else. I'm just surprised it does not like this.
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#940 [06:25] <lemon-rev> ??> kid13 requirements
#941 [06:25] <VoxelHead> kid13: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
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#943 [06:27] <NiQue> If you're getting a slow framerate try a mod called optifine.
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#945 [06:27] <NiQue> Then try runnign ti on the lowset possible settings.
#946 [06:27] <kid13> I guess. Bummed, though. Are you aware of any way to get a refund?
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#948 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> If you paid via a credit card, I would advise to use their stop payment/chargeback
#949 [06:28] <lemon-rev> kid13 you could email mojang or sign up to twitter and twit to them your trouble and see if they give you a email address
#950 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> Mojang generally doesn't do refunds on their end
#951 [06:29] <Calinou> no refunds
#952 [06:29] <Calinou> ^
#953 [06:30] <NiQue> So anyone know how to setup my domain name to the ip of my mc server?
#954 [06:30] <kid13> ok - thx. I'll mess with the drivers a little more and maybe backout the Dell customized and try the intel if you think it's worth any effort.
#955 [06:30] <NiQue> Wait, I think I just got it.
#956 [06:31] <NiQue> @kid13 - Try optimising your computer for proformance, updating the drivers and runnings optimisations for minecraft.
#957 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> NiQue - You'd have to look into a CNAME record for your domain name
#958 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> So that you can use mc.yourdomain.com to point to an ip address of your choosing
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#960 [06:32] <NiQue> I worked out my router can be atomatically updated to a dyndns.org domain, to I'll point the registeed domain the that one.
#961 [06:32] <NiQue> Would that work?
#962 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#963 [06:33] * GreyVulpine has a ddwrt modded router which does the same thing for his dydnds accuont
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#964 [06:33] <Tekknogun> For some reason I can login to the website but not the game
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#966 [06:34] <frogmella> hi. my dad bought me minecraft 7 days ago and im still waiting on a confirmation email. can anyone please help?
#967 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Tekknogun - What error do you get?
#968 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> frogmella - Check your dad's credit card/bank account. See if there's actually a record of payment on his end
#969 [06:35] <Tekknogun> just says Login Failed
#970 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> frogmella - If there isn't, the transaction was never completed
#971 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Tekknogun - You previously played minecraft before 1.8?
#972 [06:35] <Tekknogun> Ya
#973 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Tekknogun - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#974 [06:35] <NiQue> Damn, godaddy only lets me add a numeric ip to a host. Any other ways?
#975 [06:35] <Tekknogun> Did that
#976 [06:36] <frogmella> thank you so much gregvulpine
#977 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Tekknogun - You sure about that?
#978 [06:36] <Tekknogun> I just found a forum that said playing in the browser might work
#979 [06:36] <Tekknogun> ya
#980 [06:36] <Tekknogun> I deleted the old exe
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#982 [06:36] <NiQue> The browser version is completly different bro.
#983 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> NiQue - Sorry, I was wrong, you want an a record
#984 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> http://help.godaddy.com/article/680#arecs
#985 [06:37] <NiQue> If you have the minecraft.exe in your downloads folder it might cause that problem. I'd try moving it to the desktop or somthing.
#986 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> Tekknogun - If redownloading the .exe didn't work, try changing your password in the website's profile page
#987 [06:38] <Tekknogun> ok
#988 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Login failed can either mean that you're still using the old launcher, which has been updated for 1.8, or your username/password is being entered wrong
#989 [06:38] <Tekknogun> I was able to play the browser version just now
#990 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> The browser and the downloaded launcher use different authentication
#991 [06:39] <Tekknogun> ah
#992 [06:39] <Tekknogun> ok
#993 [06:39] <dect11> ok why cant i even get onto the game but when i get to where mojang in freezes at a black screen
#994 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> dect11 - Has minecraft ever worked before?
#995 [06:40] <dect11> yes
#996 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Did you use any mods or texture packs?
#997 [06:40] <dect11> no
#998 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> You sure?
#999 [06:40] <dect11> yes
#1000 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Have you done a reinstall of the minecraft files?
#1001 [06:41] <dect11> wait lemme check
#1002 [06:41] <dect11> no
#1003 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to do so?
#1004 [06:41] <dect11> no
#1005 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#1006 [06:42] <dect11> a dell demension 4300
#1007 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> So windows.
#1008 [06:42] <NiQue> Would anyone be able to try connect to mc.nique.me?
#1009 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> ??> dect11 win/reinst/bat
#1010 [06:43] <VoxelHead> dect11: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1011 [06:43] <dect11> yes
#1012 [06:43] <VoxelHead> dect11: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1013 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> !check mc.nique.me
#1014 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't look like the server is up NiQue
#1015 [06:43] <dect11> tks
#1016 [06:43] <NiQue> Well it got my IP. I think the port wasnt opend.
#1017 [06:44] <Tekknogun> either clearing my java cache fixed it just now or it was some weird glitch
#1018 [06:44] <NiQue> Damn nope. ports open.
#1019 [06:48] <dect11> so how do i install it?
#1020 [06:49] <dect11> wait i think i got it
#1021 [06:49] <NiQue> !check mc.nique.me
#1022 [06:49] <NiQue> tyay
#1023 [06:56] <dect11> now i could get into minecraft but when i start to play my world all i can read is Minecraft has crashed!
#1024 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Could you paste the entire error report on pastebin.com and give us the URL to it?
#1025 [06:56] <dect11> for a split second
#1026 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> Do you see any files named hs_err_pid?
#1027 [06:57] <dect11> no
#1028 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> You sure?
#1029 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> Look in the folder where you have the launcher
#1030 [06:58] <dect11> its on my desktop
#1031 [06:59] <dect11> and no
#1032 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Try making a new world
#1033 [07:00] <dect11> ok
#1034 [07:01] <dect11> cross ur fingers
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#1036 [07:04] <dect11> (sob-wimper-waaa)
#1037 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any idea what the error message says?
#1038 [07:05] <dect11> it doesnt work:(
#1039 [07:05] <dect11> no
#1040 [07:06] <dect11> i want to play minecraft
#1041 [07:08] <dect11> and btw i gtg and here is my e-mail nygamer2000@gmail.com just say its greyvulpine k?
#1042 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> Try the usual suspects, uninstall/reinstall java, update your video drivers
#1043 [07:09] <dect11> later 2day
#1044 [07:10] <dect11> bye!
#1045 [07:10] * GreyVulpine waves
#1045 [07:13] <|Kiikun|> holy crap 7am o.o;;;
#1046 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1047 [07:14] <Kealper> 7am is weak
#1048 [07:14] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: you hear of any bugs that make false walls? lit up or interacted with they disapear
#1049 [07:15] <Kealper> infact, i'm pretty sure i'm going to stay up all day because i'm not tired
#1050 [07:15] <Kealper> .nick AuBot
#1051 [07:15] * |Kiikun| is sorta tired... :P
#1051 [07:15] <Kealper> aubot stop spamming me with your ping checking timestamps, i'm not you >.>
#1052 [07:16] <Kealper> -AuBot- TS32721258952926
#1053 [07:16] <Kealper> ._.
#1054 [07:16] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: i say again... AuBot is evolving and becoming sentient :P
#1055 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> Awww, Aubot likes you
#1056 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> and only wants to murder your internet connection
#1057 [07:16] <Kealper> either sentient or just more stupid lol
#1058 [07:17] <Kealper> :D
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#1060 [07:17] <Kealper> whoops
#1061 [07:17] <Kealper> D:*
#1062 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> Vox on the other hand
#1063 [07:17] * Kealper kicks vox
#1063 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> Just plain hates you
#1064 [07:17] <Kealper> vox is doing it's checking wrong
#1065 [07:17] <Kealper> it's going by hostname, not user@hostname
#1066 [07:18] <Kealper> so if i say something and aubot says something it'll trigger vox's flood thing since i'm on the same hostname as aubot
#1067 [07:18] <|Kiikun|> jup.
#1068 [07:18] <Kealper> which would suck for someone on a shared bnc
#1069 [07:19] <|Kiikun|> it IS the more inteligent flood protection though..
#1070 [07:19] <|Kiikun|> ooh... yeah.
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#1078 [07:35] <mib_81qctb> hi
#1079 [07:35] <mib_81qctb> I have a problem
#1080 [07:37] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#1081 [07:44] <|Kiikun|> apparently not? :P
#1082 [07:44] <mib_81qctb> I had just gone sorry
#1083 [07:44] <mib_81qctb> also
#1084 [07:44] <mib_81qctb> I'm not a mac and minecraft starts
#1085 [07:44] <mib_81qctb> Bad Translation
#1086 [07:44] <mib_81qctb> I have a mac
#1087 [07:45] <mib_81qctb> my minecraft not start
#1088 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> Bad translation?
#1089 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> When do you get this error? What's the full error it gives you?
#1090 [07:45] <|Kiikun|> asume he's using a translator
#1091 [07:45] <AG_Scott> I'm not a mac either! I'm a human.
#1092 [07:45] <mib_81qctb> no, the translation is not as good on Mibbit
#1093 [07:46] <mib_81qctb> I still say it's a bad translation
#1094 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> AG_Scott - Lies!
#1095 [07:46] <mib_81qctb> scott Thurs've got a mac
#1096 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_81qctb - What is the exact error you get?
#1097 [07:46] <AG_Scott> lol
#1098 [07:46] <mib_81qctb> it does not start
#1099 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#1100 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/permissions
#1101 [07:46] <mib_81qctb> there is no message
#1102 [07:46] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1103 [07:46] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
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#1105 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> Just follow those instructions, place minecraft.app in your applications folder
#1106 [07:47] <AG_Scott> Thurs've is that even a word? o.o
#1107 [07:47] <mib_81qctb> ag scott?
#1108 [07:48] <AG_Scott> yes? lol
#1109 [07:48] <mib_81qctb> I am a German
#1110 [07:48] <mib_81qctb> Translation of the Mibbit is bad
#1111 [07:48] <AG_Scott> I know you're using a translator. It apparently fails quite hard.
#1112 [07:48] <mib_81qctb> voxel
#1113 [07:48] <|Kiikun|> yes. google fails :P
#1114 [07:48] <|Kiikun|> ?? bot
#1115 [07:48] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, sometimes a sock-puppet, but never an independant helper.
#1116 [07:48] <mib_81qctb> I typed in the terminal
#1117 [07:49] <mib_81qctb> minecraft not start
#1118 [07:49] <AG_Scott> |Kiikun|: My fiancè is French Canadian. I translate using it sometimes and he says it's fail lol
#1119 [07:49] <mib_81qctb> it does not open
#1120 [07:50] <mib_81qctb> wug has helped me with TeamViewer
#1121 [07:50] <mib_81qctb> But he has not been able to open minecraft
#1122 [07:50] <mib_81qctb> says he has a mac AG_Scott
#1123 [07:50] <mib_81qctb> I want to ask you
#1124 [07:51] <AG_Scott> I'm not sure how to fix that. It always worked for me.
#1125 [07:51] <mib_81qctb> He said you're a mac special list
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#1128 [07:52] <Kealper> wat.
#1129 [07:52] <AG_Scott> It's 6:51 AM here, I'm not really in the mood to help. :(
#1130 [07:52] <mib_81qctb> is with me 13:52
#1131 [07:52] <Kealper> aubot is completely stupid right now
#1132 [07:52] <AG_Scott> You broke it.
#1133 [07:52] * Kealper gets up from his laptop to actually check it out
#1133 [07:52] <AG_Scott> I told you not to feed it chocolate.
#1134 [07:52] <Carrot> It was dog chocolate, shush.
#1135 [07:52] <Kealper> i didn't think white chocolate would hurt it!
#1136 [07:53] <AG_Scott> I'm going to visit Kealper and push chocolate in his computer holes.
#1137 [07:53] <Carrot> o.o
#1138 [07:53] <mib_81qctb> Scott can you please help with?
#1139 [07:53] <AG_Scott> I wonder how bad that would hurt it xD
#1140 [07:53] <|Kiikun|> that sounds so wrong... and dirty...
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#1143 [07:55] <mib_9zj1pr> hello all
#1144 [07:56] <mib_9zj1pr> i have a question about creating servers and moving them
#1145 [07:56] <|Kiikun|> ??> mib_9zj1pr smp/serversetup
#1146 [07:56] <VoxelHead> mib_9zj1pr: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#1147 [07:56] <VoxelHead> mib_9zj1pr: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1148 [07:57] <|Kiikun|> mib_9zj1pr: moving a server is as simple as moving the folder the server is in.
#1149 [07:57] <mib_9zj1pr> ok thanks
#1150 [07:58] * |Kiikun| nets BabyCreep and tosses it into the new mob farm
#1150 [07:59] <BabyCreep> I want out!
#1151 [07:59] <mib_9zj1pr> well what happened is my friend has a server which we play on and we decided to get a computer to run just our server, when we put in on the new computer we can only connect when we r at his house and i can no longer connect from my house, any advice?
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#1153 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding
#1154 [07:59] <|Kiikun|> mib_9zj1pr:... damnit grey! *got ninja'd*
#1155 [07:59] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1156 [07:59] * GreyVulpine ninja-vanishes
#1156 [08:00] <mib_9zj1pr> we have done that. would the new computer have the same ip or a new ip ?
#1157 [08:00] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, a new ip
#1158 [08:00] <dylanbarberdude> i only need to do two simple steps to manualy port forward on my router
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#1160 [08:00] * |Kiikun| ignores the person with the idiot router.
#1160 [08:01] <dylanbarberdude> Kiikun its an netgear optus one
#1161 [08:02] <|Kiikun|> dylanbarberdude: oh, thought you were claiming one of those bthome or thompson or something routers ~>~
#1162 [08:02] <GreyVulpine> Bleh
#1163 [08:02] <AG_Scott> I had a thompson router for a day
#1164 [08:02] <AG_Scott> It was horrific XD
#1165 [08:02] * GreyVulpine has had to port forward WAY too many thompson/westell/shitty combo modem/routers
#1165 [08:03] <dylanbarberdude> ha
#1166 [08:05] <|Kiikun|> http://www.dd-wrt.com/demo/ <-- what i use. online demo version of it but :P
#1167 [08:06] * GreyVulpine uses ddwrt as well
#1167 [08:06] * |Kiikun| likes having router-defined static ips :P
#1167 [08:07] <dylanbarberdude> i wish i had a static ip
#1168 [08:08] <|Kiikun|> dylanbarberdude: you mean on the internet? :P
#1169 [08:08] <dylanbarberdude> yes
#1170 [08:08] <FoolofWisdom> i was reading up, about the water cooling, its less likely to leak if its a pre-built thing that you get out of a box, i am current;y using a h50, and it is quite good
#1171 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> Can always pay for a business line
#1172 [08:08] * |Kiikun| likes using dyndns :P
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#1173 [08:09] <GreyVulpine> That works as well
#1174 [08:09] <dylanbarberdude> i judy buyed a hosted server
#1175 [08:09] <|Kiikun|> its nice cuz i have one of the 'pay' hosts without having to pay :3
#1176 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> Got one of those hosts before it went pay?
#1177 [08:10] <dylanbarberdude> my pc cannt really handle a server anyway
#1178 [08:10] <|Kiikun|> jup.
#1179 [08:10] <GreyVulpine> Nice
#1180 [08:11] * |Kiikun| is also squatting a photos.cc address for a friend's daughter... but will probably drop it and remove it from apache.
#1180 [08:11] <dylanbarberdude> i got a host latest tech and fibre optic. 2 GB $20 a month and can use paypal
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#1182 [08:14] <dylanbarberdude> gtg
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#1185 [08:24] <BabyCreep> Login Failed?
#1186 [08:24] <BabyCreep> Help please?
#1187 [08:27] <|Kiikun|> BabyCreep: make sure your login info is correct
#1188 [08:27] <BabyCreep> Oh it is.
#1189 [08:27] <BabyCreep> I can log-in the website, not the client.
#1190 [08:28] <BabyCreep> But I feel better with the Client.
#1191 [08:28] <GreyVulpine> Redownload the launcher
#1192 [08:28] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you have the latest one, launcher was updated with 1.8
#1193 [08:28] <BabyCreep> I'll try, thanks guys.
#1194 [08:28] <BabyCreep> It was?
#1195 [08:28] <BabyCreep> Haven't noticed.
#1196 [08:29] <BabyCreep> Works, thanks guys :D
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#1201 [08:40] <Princeps> This is the right place to post a tehnical issue?
#1202 [08:40] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1203 [08:40] <Princeps> Hai, After testing a texture pack, im getting "Missingtex" everywhere. I have reinstalled the game, deleted mc folder and client, restarted computer, all several times. It appears both in texture pack and without no texture pack.
#1204 [08:40] <Princeps> It drives me crazy
#1205 [08:41] <Dimitrias> Guys, does it mean that a map is corrupted if there is a place where ground is lower, about the size of a chunk?
#1206 [08:41] <GreyVulpine> Dimitrias - Pretty much, yeah
#1207 [08:41] <GreyVulpine> Princeps - Could you post a screenshot or something?
#1208 [08:42] <Princeps> sure
#1209 [08:42] <Dimitrias> Damn, you might remember me from the last time I had a corrupted map. Its the 5th time already! How do I know if a seed is good or not?
#1210 [08:42] <Princeps> k, this time game crashed, it does that also
#1211 [08:42] <GreyVulpine> Seeds are just randomly generated starting points.
#1212 [08:42] <GreyVulpine> There's really no "bad seed"
#1213 [08:42] <Dimitrias> But there are corrupted ones, it appears?
#1214 [08:43] <Dimitrias> And why are 50% of the seeds I have like that.
#1215 [08:43] <GreyVulpine> Corruption occurs because of the computer, not the seed
#1216 [08:43] <Princeps> http://www.upload.ee/image/1677978/clipboard_upped.png here is one
#1217 [08:44] <Princeps> oh i got the worst one also this time
#1218 [08:44] <Princeps> it's random which texture is missing
#1219 [08:44] <Dimitrias> Corruption occurs because of the computer, not the seed" -- ... but why those holes then? They don't go away if I reset the chunk either
#1220 [08:45] <Princeps> http://www.upload.ee/image/1677985/clipboard_upped.png
#1221 [08:45] <Dimitrias> I got a relatively fast computer and my server runs on a professional thingy
#1222 [08:46] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow Princeps...
#1223 [08:46] <Princeps> Mmm, tbh first time today, I had all textures, but after that memory crash, it started again
#1224 [08:46] <Princeps> Yes it's like a rare disease. I didn't find anything from google
#1225 [08:46] <GreyVulpine> Dimitrias - I don't really know what to tell you, seeds don't determine chunk corruption at all
#1226 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> Seeds only are the starting point for the map generation code. Map corruption only occurs because something on the computer went awry.
#1227 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> Princeps - You've done a complete delete of the .minecraft folder, saving your saves?
#1228 [08:47] <GreyVulpine> Tried redownloading the launcher as well?
#1229 [08:48] <Princeps> no, i Even didnt save the saves
#1230 [08:48] <Princeps> Yes, i deleted .minecraft folder, deleted client, restarted computer, downloaded client, installed it and didnt help
#1231 [08:48] <GreyVulpine> If it's not minecraft, perhaps java then? Try uninstalling java completely and reinstall it?
#1232 [08:48] <Princeps> sometimes the client doesnt have texture
#1233 [08:48] <Princeps> Hmm, k ima test java
#1234 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> That's just.. strange, don't think I've seen something like that before
#1235 [08:49] <Dimitrias> Hmm... how do you insert an image? So I can show what 'hole' I'm talking about
#1236 [08:49] <Princeps> I used upload.com
#1237 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> upload it to an image hosting site like imgur.com
#1238 [08:49] <GreyVulpine> or that
#1239 [08:49] <Princeps> actually upload.ee, i though that .com works also <.<
#1240 [08:50] <Princeps> Do i have to delete Java or it will reinstall itself when I lunch the installfile?
#1241 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> To get a fresh clean install of java, it's recommended to uninstall any existing java first
#1242 [08:52] <Dimitrias> http://i.imgur.com/hCAiV.jpg'
#1243 [08:52] <Dimitrias> Thats that 'thing', does that mean I should delete the world once again? :-\
#1244 [08:53] <GreyVulpine> That.. doesn't look like map corruption
#1245 [08:55] <Dimitrias> Then what is it? A friend of me kinda thinks he's pro and he always says those square holes are the end of the world. (And they were once, other times I just took no risk)
#1246 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> Looks pretty normal to me
#1247 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> This is chunk corruption:
#1248 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq326/thezeronumber/javaw2011-01-0417-46-08-39.jpg
#1249 [08:55] <GreyVulpine> http://i460.photobucket.com/albums/qq326/thezeronumber/javaw2011-01-0417-53-22-85.jpg
#1250 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> And this http://www.gasperazzo.net/images/games/minecraft/minecraftchunkmissing.jpg
#1251 [08:56] <Dimitrias> So this is no problem? (What I have)
#1252 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> Yours.. looks like normal map generation to me
#1253 [08:56] <Dimitrias> Hmm then why did it happen that once it started snowing in a wrong biome and houses started disappearing near such a 'hole'?
#1254 [08:57] <Dimitrias> (In a previous map)
#1255 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> That.. sounds like map corruption then
#1256 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> The depression that you've shown me right now, looks normal
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#1258 [08:58] <Dimitrias> So map corruption can't be seen just by those holes? Also except for that hole I saw nothing out of the ordinary in that one map with corruption
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#1260 [08:58] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, map corruption can also occur with runaway weather, or corrupt mob generation
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#1262 [08:59] <Dimitrias> Oh and one last question: that previous world, when i re-generated it with the same seed it was corrupted again. And you saiid its a corrupted seed, and now you're saying seeds are not related?
#1263 [08:59] <GreyVulpine> As for chunk corruption, those examples I gave you there are fair.
#1264 [09:00] <Princeps> Oookay, I think I reinstalled java now. I did get a missintex on the backround doing, In-game doesnt seen any atm, but I'll see
#1265 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> If I said it was a corrupt seed, I probably meant something else. All seeds are, are a starting point for the map generator. There is no "bad seed"
#1266 [09:00] <Princeps> Oh, i dont have clouds
#1267 [09:00] <Dimitrias> Ok, thanks a lot for the help :)
#1268 [09:00] <GreyVulpine> If I started a map with a seed of "hi bob" and you started a world with the same seed, we'd both have the same world generate for the both of us, that's all
#1269 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> If for some reason, that seed changed, like the level.dat got corrupted... the world that generates would be changed, or at worst, the map would get corrupted
#1270 [09:01] <GreyVulpine> Biomes would change, weather may run rampant, you may see mobs generate waaay too often.
#1271 [09:02] <GreyVulpine> That's an indication of some deeper system fault, that would cause a world to get corrupted like that
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#1273 [09:03] <GreyVulpine> Also, map corruption happens sometimes, even on the best of systems, because of the coding as well.
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#1277 [09:10] <Dimitrias> Oh one last question: Why can we now see the seed when we press F3!? Now anyone can see it and generate it for himself to find ores?
#1278 [09:10] <confused> Hi, I'm back. Still have the common opengl accelerated driver not found problem. If all looks right, drivers etc, and the OpenGL Ext Viewer looks good, and it still does not work, am I simply hosed? If all seems ok, there must be a technical reason that it still doesn't work, but I can't seem to find any specific comments, except for 'just get a new card'.
#1279 [09:10] <confused> Which I can't as it's a laptop.
#1280 [09:10] <GreyVulpine> confused - What operating system?
#1281 [09:11] <confused> XP
#1282 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, give us a dxdiag?
#1283 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> ??> confused win/dxdiag
#1284 [09:11] <VoxelHead> confused: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1285 [09:11] <VoxelHead> confused: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1286 [09:11] <confused> ok- thx!
#1287 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> Dimitrias - F3's just a diagnostic tool, really up to a user if they want to use it or not
#1288 [09:19] <confused> I think this is what you are requesting: http://pastebin.com/hUS3CgSe
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#1290 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> It is, one moment
#1291 [09:20] <Princeps> K, im going on a bigger restart. Delete .mc folder, client and java, restart computer, and install all 3 and restart again and try then
#1292 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> confused - Could you try these drivers for your system? http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=12536&ProdId=1862&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers
#1293 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> They seem to be slightly newer
#1294 [09:25] <confused> I'll take a look, but it might be one I already tried. If so, the Intel driver Utility said I already have a customized one from Dell installed and they would not overwright it.
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#1296 [09:26] <confused> overwrite-sorry
#1297 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> If that's the case, you can force Windows to update it manually, by downloading the zip file from intel's site: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=1862&DwnldID=12531&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+controllers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+915GM%2fGMS%2c+910GML+Express+Chipset+Family&lang=eng
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#1299 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> Then using Window's Device manager, you can force the drivers to update from the unzipped, zip of the drivers from intel's site
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#1301 [09:29] <switch> hi
#1302 [09:29] <switch> I have a question: Why not cash the works with the EC? He always tells me that my banking information is already in use. How to Offer something and it does not work. I do not have Paypal. Sorry for my bad English
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#1305 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> You do not need to have a paypal account to pay with paypal. You can use a credit card to pay for purchases made on Paypal.
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#1307 [09:31] <confused> ok, ran that. Intel came back and said that it was certified for my PC. But couse the web page says it is for my chipset. annoying.
#1308 [09:31] <confused> sorry- not certified
#1309 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> confused - Alright then, try the zip file of that driver: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=1862&DwnldID=12531&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+controllers&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%C2%AE+915GM%2fGMS%2c+910GML+Express+Chipset+Family&lang=eng
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#1311 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Unzip it to a place you can get to. Go to your control panel -> system -> hardware -> device manager
#1312 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> Expand the display adapter there, right click on the intel chipset, choose update drivers. There should be an option to "let me choose from a list of drivers" or something similar to that.
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#1314 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> You should then see a button for "Have disk", click on that, then Browse to the folder where you unzipped the drivers, should be able to choose the .inf file in the graphics folder
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#1316 [09:34] <Princeps> Im back
#1317 [09:34] <Princeps> Reinstalled java, restarted comp, installed mc atm
#1318 [09:35] <Princeps> And i already see its not working because the installwindow is f**ked up
#1319 [09:35] <Princeps> it's just stacking text on itself
#1320 [09:35] <Princeps> Oh, it got a crash log now
#1321 [09:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm...
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#1323 [09:36] <Princeps> Can i copy paste log here? or i'll make a document or sth?
#1324 [09:36] <Princeps> it fits on picture also
#1325 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> First thought is video options. Check your system's video options, make sure they're not hard-set to some option. Best way is to let the 3d settings on your computer be "application controlled"
#1326 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Please paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
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#1328 [09:36] <Princeps> http://www.upload.ee/image/1678116/clipboard_upped.png
#1329 [09:36] <Princeps> oh k
#1330 [09:37] <macaco> Is there a memory leak in 1.8.1?
#1331 [09:37] <Princeps> http://pastebin.com/5AGkA84e
#1332 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> macaco - Not really, no
#1333 [09:38] <Princeps> Is that video option sentence for me?
#1334 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is just set to use a gig of RAM if you're using the standard launcher
#1335 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> Princeps - Yes.. but let me look at the error log
#1336 [09:38] <macaco> but it uses up that gig of ram in about 3 minutes. with a 7MB map
#1337 [09:39] <Princeps> k thx
#1338 [09:39] <macaco> started the map, went underground exploring and found an abandoned mine, explored it, and since I've come back to the surface, it's been crashing every 3-4 minutes after running out of memory
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#1340 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> macaco - Got a 64 bit OS?
#1341 [09:39] <macaco> yeah
#1342 [09:40] <macaco> I thought they fixed that though
#1343 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> Try uninstalling all versions of java from your system, and install only the 64 bit version of java
#1344 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> Not that I've seen
#1345 [09:40] <macaco> grumble grumble. this has never happened before either. oh well
#1346 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> Princeps - Hmmm..... Are you absolutely sure you've been deleting the entirety of .minecraft?
#1347 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> There's no files left over? Java/minecraft isn't running when you do this?
#1348 [09:41] <macaco> uninstalling java from the add/remove will work right? I don't need to download some special remover or anything?
#1349 [09:42] <Princeps> should be, if there isnt a trick
#1350 [09:42] <Princeps> i Have alot of mc folders around my comp
#1351 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> macaco - Right
#1352 [09:42] <Princeps> and clients and stuff, but not the real .minecraft folder, i think i deleted entirely
#1353 [09:42] <macaco> GreyVulpine: alright. Thanks for the help
#1354 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> Princeps - Start -> Type: %appdata% in the search bar, find .minecraft
#1355 [09:42] <Princeps> Yeaah, thats where i deleted it
#1356 [09:44] <confused> Grey: done, but have to reboot. Fingers crossed
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#1358 [09:46] <CasioBeatz> hey there
#1359 [09:46] <CasioBeatz> i'd have a little question about the world-generator. how can i change the map-size / high in 1.8?
#1360 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> No way to change the map height in vanilla.
#1361 [09:48] <CasioBeatz> okay, and what is on bukkit or other mod-servers?
#1362 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Princeps - When you're deleting .minecraft, you've made sure there's no other java processes in your task manager?
#1363 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> CasioBeatz - I'm sorry? I don't understand the question.
#1364 [09:49] <Princeps> nope, i didnt make sure, but i can
#1365 [09:49] <CasioBeatz> i want to know, is there any way to set the map-heigh from 128 to 256 4 example?
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#1367 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> CasioBeatz - As far as I know, there's no current mod to do that. Bukkit's been on dev releases for 1.8, there's no official bukkit release out for 1.8 yet
#1368 [09:50] <fuferman> anyone got worldedit cui working with zombe's mod pack
#1369 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> For single player mods, you're better off asking in #risucraft, I'm not current
#1370 [09:51] <fuferman> kk thanks
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#1372 [09:51] <Princeps> Ima close browser and reinstall mc, just in case
#1373 [09:51] <mib_hi7798> Why can I find the Minecraft License Agreement?
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#1375 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/terms
#1376 [09:52] <mib_hi7798> Thanks!
#1377 [09:52] <CasioBeatz> mh, what a pitty, but the mc-servers displays [quote]New max size: 400 New max size: 784 New max size: 1764 New max size: 5476 New max size: 18496 New max size: 19044[/quote]
#1378 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I have no idea what that actually is..
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#1380 [09:53] <CasioBeatz> mh :-/
#1381 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> We even asked Jeb, when 1.8 rolled out what it was, I don't think he ever got back to us on it
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#1385 [09:56] <ManuXz> hello
#1386 [09:56] <ManuXz> i have some wuestion is any helper here?
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#1388 [09:57] <Princeps> Okay, I closed all my programs on taskbar, checked task manager for java (didnt find any), used firefox (I use chrome normally) to download new client, installed it, and still same bug
#1389 [09:58] <Princeps> I'll say just in case, that I play runescape (Huge java game in browser) and installed McEdit few days ago
#1390 [09:59] <CasioBeatz> @Princeps which bug is it?
#1391 [09:59] <Princeps> Missintex
#1392 [09:59] <Princeps> Oh did that other guy leave?
#1393 [09:59] <Princeps> He is in Idlers, well I would get frustrated also when I someone with bug like that comes to me
#1394 [10:00] <Princeps> http://pastebin.com/5AGkA84e
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#1396 [10:01] <confused> GreyVulpine: No luck http://pastebin.com/hgi80vLF I see video memory has gone up, though
#1397 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> confused - Hmm, how about: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#1398 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> Princeps - Sorry, was away for a moment. Hmm. check your 3d video settings on your computer, see if there's anything that's forced to a setting instead of application-controlled
#1399 [10:05] <confused> don't see anything odd. also, it passed all Direct Draw and Direct 3d tests.
#1400 [10:05] <GreyVulpine> confused - I meant, try the instructions I just gave you via that pastebin link
#1401 [10:05] <confused> ok - will download .jar and try
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#1403 [10:13] <confused> Grey: http://pastebin.com/cZ02X146
#1404 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> confused - Did you put minecraft.jar in the same folder as the bat file?
#1405 [10:14] <confused> yes
#1406 [10:14] <GreyVulpine> The same minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download?
#1407 [10:19] <confused> Yes, the server jar
#1408 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> Not the server jar, you want the client, under the linux heading.
#1409 [10:21] <confused> ah, I"m windows. I did not see a linux heading, but just clicked on show all platforms and see it now. Will try again
#1410 [10:21] <confused> I thought the server thing was odd
#1411 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Oh right.. they changed the site there..
#1412 [10:22] * GreyVulpine makes a mental note to rework that pastebin link
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#1413 [10:24] <confused> Well, that's really interesting. It opens a client window and does seem to work, although slowly, but that's probably a differnet problem. What does this mean?
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#1415 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Means there's nothing wrong with your computer as a whole, just that your Intel Integrated video card was probably siphoning off too much RAM...
#1416 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Intel integrated chipsets work by sharing memory with your RAM. Since your laptop is already pretty old, you have about a gig of RAM to share between 3d acceleration for your video card, your operating system, and any running programs you have open
#1417 [10:26] <tyteen4a03> intel and windows? god
#1418 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> With minecraft, it tries to reserve up to a gig of RAM itself.
#1419 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> hence why your intel chipset was choking, and couldn't provide 3d acceleration
#1420 [10:26] <confused> meaning add more RAM? I have 1.2gb but can probably configure for 2gb.
#1421 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> More RAM may help a little bit, but personally, I'd save for a better computer
#1422 [10:27] <tyteen4a03> confused: I haven't seen your dxdiag, but I think you should go for a new computer
#1423 [10:27] <tyteen4a03> well, from what grey has mentioned
#1424 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Even with more RAM, your laptop's pretty old as it is, and there's really no way of upgrading the video card on it, which is what the real problem is
#1425 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> The .bat file I had you make, limits minecraft to just 256 megs of RAM, which is why it's running now
#1426 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> No promises on how well it runs though.
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#1428 [10:30] <confused> Good point. Appreciate all the help. Will add RAM (I have some laying around) and upgrade when possible. So...I can add RAM, but it still may not fly without the .bat. But I guess I can tinker with it to give more RAM?
#1429 [10:30] <GreyVulpine> You can modify the .bat file to suit your tastes. -Xms is the starting allocation, -Xmx is the max heap size minecraft will take up
#1430 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> The .exe uses -Xms512M -Xmx1024M
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#1432 [10:32] <confused> thank you for taking the time on this. It's a way better explanation than others I got...basically, if drivers are updated then give up and get a new PC. At least this identifies the problem. Thx again
#1433 [10:32] <macaco> GreyVulpine: 64bit java worked perfect. Thanks for the help
#1434 [10:32] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#1444 [11:02] <madcrazydrumma> Can i report my bugs to anyone? i have 20+
#1445 [11:02] <madcrazydrumma> :L
#1446 [11:02] <Carrot> OPs
#1447 [11:02] <Carrot> 1.9PR is out.
#1448 [11:02] <madcrazydrumma> I know
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#1450 [11:02] <madcrazydrumma> thats what im reporting
#1451 [11:02] <madcrazydrumma> lol
#1452 [11:02] <Carrot> GreyVulpine, does #minecrafthelp support 1.9 Pre-Release?
#1453 [11:03] <Carrot> I'm asking because the two 1.8 Pre-Releases were NOT supported.
#1454 [11:03] <madcrazydrumma> Who knows :L
#1455 [11:03] <madcrazydrumma> Is mollstam there? He works for mojang - Maybe we can report bugs there
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#1460 [11:12] <mr_evil> hi my server isn properly port forwading
#1461 [11:12] <mr_evil> nothing works
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#1464 [11:23] <Rijnhardt> hi
#1465 [11:24] <Rijnhardt> helooooo
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#1467 [11:26] <Thrae> Rijnhardt: Yes?
#1468 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> !topic undo
#1469 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> !topic undo
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#1471 [11:28] <AndyDDD> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#1472 [11:28] <AndyDDD> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1473 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> !topic info 4
#1474 [11:28] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 4 = Update 1.8 has been officially released. We will now support it. ] ... set by [ Wug | Wed Sep 14 04:38:59 MST 2011 ]
#1475 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> !topic del 4
#1476 [11:29] <AndyDDD> ive got the latest drivers
#1477 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> AndyDDD - And how do you know?
#1478 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> !topic add Minecraft 1.9-pre is released. We will not support it until its stable release
#1479 [11:31] <Thrae> AndyDDD: Windows?
#1480 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> ??+ 1.9|1.9 prerelease Minecraft client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre/minecraft.jar;;1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre/minecraft_server.jar
#1481 [11:32] <AndyDDD> yes
#1482 [11:32] <Thrae> ??> AndyDDD win/dxdiag
#1483 [11:32] <VoxelHead> AndyDDD: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1484 [11:32] <VoxelHead> AndyDDD: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1485 [11:33] <AndyDDD> ive got dx c mate
#1486 [11:34] * mariettagecko waves
#1486 [11:34] <AndyDDD> this
#1487 [11:34] <AndyDDD> http://pastebin.com/T0gKWiAu
#1488 [11:35] <Thrae> AndyDDD: VoxelHead wasn't asking you to install DirectX, it was asking you to give us your DxDiag information so we can take a look at your hardware.
#1489 [11:35] <AndyDDD> k
#1490 [11:36] <AndyDDD> ive never had this error before btw
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#1492 [11:36] <AndyDDD> just since 1.8 i think
#1493 [11:37] <AndyDDD> http://pastebin.com/y6TvMkT0
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#1497 [11:38] <Thrae> AndyDDD: Yeah, you don't have the best driver for your video card.
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#1499 [11:38] <AndyDDD> oh
#1500 [11:39] <Thrae> AndyDDD: The Microsoft-provided drivers for notebooks sometimes lack OpenGL support. Download and install this Suite -- http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-32.aspx
#1501 [11:41] <AndyDDD> just installed that and its still doing it
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#1504 [11:41] <Thrae> AndyDDD: You downloaded and installed that Suite? Because the drivers didn't install.
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#1506 [11:42] <Thrae> Did you *just* install it, or install it earlier?
#1507 [11:42] <AndyDDD> il try this
#1508 [11:42] <AndyDDD> Catalyst Software Suite 62.1 MB 11.8 8/17/2011
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#1510 [11:43] <Essentials_165> yone here
#1511 [11:43] <Thrae> Yes. That's the one I wanted you to download and install, AndyDDD.
#1512 [11:44] <AndyDDD> any reason why this is blank
#1513 [11:44] <AndyDDD> Driver Name:
#1514 [11:44] <AndyDDD> in the dxdiag log
#1515 [11:44] <nickfromgreek> when i joined today it said login failed and when i changenged my pass then i succeed it was i hacked??
#1516 [11:45] <Thrae> AndyDDD: The one you sent me?
#1517 [11:45] <AndyDDD> yes
#1518 [11:45] <Thrae> AndyDDD: I see "Driver Name: atidxx32.dll,atidxx64,atiumdag.dll,atiumdva.cap,atiumd64,atiumd6a,atitmm64"
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#1520 [11:46] <Essentials_165> sorry i had a crash any anser
#1521 [11:46] <Thrae> Essentials_165: So you couldn't login to http://www.minecraft.net either?
#1522 [11:47] <rymate1234> I need help with 1.9
#1523 [11:47] <tyteen4a03> We don't support 1.9 prerelease
#1524 [11:47] <rymate1234> kthen
#1525 [11:47] <tyteen4a03> I suppose there's a #1.9Help
#1526 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> nope
#1527 [11:51] <Essentials_165> thrae no
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#1530 [11:52] <Essentials_165> i couldnt i tried login minecraft fail i wnt to chech what is happening to minecraft .net i couldent login and i changed my pass and i succeded
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#1532 [11:53] <Essentials_165> guys how i change my e-mail
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#1534 [11:53] <AndyDDD> crap the drivers failed to install
#1535 [11:53] <Essentials_165> guys i need to change my e-mail
#1536 [11:53] <AndyDDD> Error messages
#1537 [11:53] <AndyDDD> Application Install: install package failure!
#1538 [11:54] <AndyDDD> Catalystâ„¢ Install Manager
#1539 [11:54] <AndyDDD> Installation Report
#1540 [11:54] <AndyDDD> do i need to remove old drivers
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#1543 [11:56] <AndyDDD> k think ive fixed it
#1544 [11:57] <Essentials_165> what it says i am banned from mcchatter
#1545 [11:57] <AndyDDD> if i press refresh , am i suppose to see a list of servers?
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#1547 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> AndyDDD - Only ones you add yourself
#1548 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Essentials_165 - Probably because you're using mibbit. Mibbit is banned from #mcchatter
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#1550 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: 1.9 prerelease is out, you might want to add notices
#1551 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Already
#1552 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> have
#1553 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> !topic info 4
#1554 [12:00] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 4 = Minecraft 1.9-pre is released. We will not support it until its stable release ] ... set by [ GreyVulpine | Thu Sep 22 08:29:29 MST 2011 ]
#1555 [12:00] <AndyDDD> what do you mean add my self
#1556 [12:00] <MrWeb> I have a problem with Java. It always crashes for me.
#1557 [12:00] <MrWeb> I have the newest update
#1558 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> AndyDDD - There is no master list of servers. The server list you see in minecraft, only tracks servers you add yourself to the list
#1559 [12:01] <Thrae> Essentials_165: Do you think your email account was hacked?
#1560 [12:01] <AndyDDD> oh
#1561 [12:01] <Essentials_165> grey someone changed my password at my account i think anchange my adressto change it again and i think my e-mail has been hacked is there qa way i can
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#1563 [12:01] <MrWeb> When i play MineCraft i get a crash error.
#1564 [12:02] <MrWeb> Please help!
#1565 [12:02] <Essentials_165> grey someone changed my password at my account and i changed the pass and i think my e-mail has been hacked is there a way i can change my adress??*
#1566 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Essentials_165 - Use the hacked reporting feature at minecraft.net/support
#1567 [12:03] <Thrae> Essentials_165: http://www.minecraft.net/support/ , click on Account, then Hacked. Make sure you verify the information it asks you to. You'll need the receipt ID and CC owner's name or Paypal account.
#1568 [12:03] <slofton> So, i'm having some trouble playing MC. It played great the last week or so until very recently. I can play SP just fine, but when I play MP, it just freezes up or plays EXTREMELY slow. The only think I've changed recently is installing DirectX for another game. It did start happening after that though, but I don't know why that would cause it to freeze. It's
#1569 [12:04] <Thrae> Essentials_165: If you think your email account has been hacked, make sure NOT to use that one in the fields.
#1570 [12:04] <MrWeb> When i play MineCraft my JAVA crashes and i have the newest update of JAVA.
#1571 [12:04] * Thrae needs some rest after a ~5 hour troubleshooting session of his own...AFK
#1571 [12:05] <Essentials_165> thrae another problem i bough the game with friends paypal and i dont know the name
#1572 [12:06] <MrWeb> Does someone know how to solve my problem with java?
#1573 [12:06] <Essentials_165> how i can change my e-mail that is only i need to do to stop the hack
#1574 [12:06] <Essentials_165> becaus emy password is very easy and i cant change it
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#1576 [12:08] <MrWeb> Well i thought people was helpful here
#1577 [12:08] <nickfromgreek> i too
#1578 [12:09] <MrWeb> Do you know why my JAVA crashes everytime i play MineCraft?
#1579 [12:09] <Thrae> nickfromgreek: That's the only way Mojang will change an email address -- they need those two forms of identification.
#1580 [12:10] <nickfromgreek> thrae shall i enter my i think hacked e-mai adress
#1581 [12:10] <Thrae> MrWeb: Does Java give an error report? If so, paste the contents to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#1582 [12:10] <MrWeb> Okay i will do so
#1583 [12:11] <Thrae> nickfromgreek: No. They purposefully let you put in a different email address. There are plenty of free email accounts out there, like Gmail.
#1584 [12:11] <MrWeb> file:///C:/Users/Hugo/Desktop/hs_err_pid2400.log
#1585 [12:12] <nickfromgreek> only problem i dont remember my friends paypal :(
#1586 [12:12] <Thrae> MrWeb: Paste the contents of that file to www.pastebin.com, submit, and give us the link.
#1587 [12:12] <MrWeb> The fu**k why didn't thelink work?
#1588 [12:12] <Thrae> MrWeb: We can't read files on your computer.
#1589 [12:13] <Thrae> nickfromgreek: Well maybe you can use the credit card owner's name.
#1590 [12:13] <MrWeb> Yes i know i did wrong. But i think im doing it right now
#1591 [12:13] <Thrae> Or just contact your friend and get said information. What kind of friend let's you use their paypal account but doesn't ever contact you back?
#1592 [12:13] <MrWeb> http://pastebin.com/ikvNe9wF
#1593 [12:14] <MrWeb> Sitting here and hearing at the sound of thunder :D
#1594 [12:14] <nickfromgreek> ok i remembered and recieved the hacked e-mail at my i think hacked e-mail
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#1596 [12:15] <Thrae> MrWeb: Looks like its failing when calling an OpenGL function provided by Nvidia graphics chipsets. Go to www.nvidia.com and download and install the latest update.
#1597 [12:15] <MrWeb> Okay thanks
#1598 [12:17] <nickfromgreek> ok i recieved the e-mail now what i do]
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#1600 [12:17] <nickfromgreek> how i change it
#1601 [12:19] <MrWeb> You were right, i didn't have the latest driver
#1602 [12:22] <nickfromgreek> any ideas for me??
#1603 [12:22] <MrWeb> So you want to change you e-mail. Have you checked google)
#1604 [12:22] <MrWeb> ?
#1605 [12:22] <nickfromgreek> yep
#1606 [12:22] <nickfromgreek> nothing
#1607 [12:23] <MrWeb> Have you changed you password to your e-mail?
#1608 [12:23] <nickfromgreek> i cant
#1609 [12:23] <nickfromgreek> at yahoo there is no such option
#1610 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> Sure there is
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#1612 [12:24] <nickfromgreek> oops found at yahoo wiki
#1613 [12:24] <MrWeb> So now the new driver update is installed thanks for the help :)
#1614 [12:25] <nickfromgreek> GRRRRRRRRRRRR it was under my nose a big CHANGE YOUR PASS
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#1616 [12:27] <nickfromgreek> thanks a lot all of you
#1617 [12:30] <MrWeb> Well it looks like the update fixed this. Thanks alot :)
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#1624 [12:41] <iheartfornax> who do i contact to get help with account issues?
#1625 [12:42] <iheartfornax> i reset my password on the minecraft website, but it still won't let me log in to the game
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#1632 [12:57] <IgWannA> hi
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#1634 [13:03] <IgWannA> anyone know how i can get a refund? can't see it anywhere on the site
#1635 [13:03] <IgWannA> the game is unplayable and i'm mad. the tech support is non existant, it's like the developers don't want you to contact them. ever
#1636 [13:04] <peru> its on the site
#1637 [13:05] <IgWannA> i dont see it
#1638 [13:06] <IgWannA> it won't even let me post a threat on the message board
#1639 [13:06] <IgWannA> even the BB is bugged, i mean wtf
#1640 [13:07] <IgWannA> "We do not issue refunds for purchased games and/or services. "
#1641 [13:07] <IgWannA> WTF how is that even legal??
#1642 [13:07] <IgWannA> I bought a game, it doesn't fucking work, there is nothing wrong with my system, it's their buggy fucking game that's the problem
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#1645 [13:08] <peru> youre right... but im certain in past they did :O
#1646 [13:08] <IgWannA> can you please not kick me for expressing valid frustration
#1647 [13:08] <IgWannA> i've spent 3 days trying to get this game working
#1648 [13:08] <peru> describe your problem maybe someone will help
#1649 [13:08] <TheBadShepperd> IgWannA, AuBot automaticly kicks on certain swear words.
#1650 [13:08] <IgWannA> it crashes about 10 seconds after joining a server
#1651 [13:08] <IgWannA> just locks up
#1652 [13:08] <Acid20> Is Wug online ???
#1653 [13:09] <IgWannA> i asked here yesterday and no one knew. i posted a thread and no one knows.
#1654 [13:09] <IgWannA> :/
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#1657 [13:13] <Thrae> IgWannA: OK, what's going on?
#1658 [13:13] <IgWannA> it was working fine, i was playing on a friends server for a couple days
#1659 [13:13] <IgWannA> then i got blown up by a creeper, just after i respawn it locks up
#1660 [13:13] <Thrae> On your friend's server?
#1661 [13:13] <IgWannA> now every time i connect, it'll load and run for the first 10 seconds then suddenly freeze, or run at about 0.2 fps
#1662 [13:14] <IgWannA> yeah
#1663 [13:14] <Thrae> Do you have any problem playing Single Player?
#1664 [13:14] <IgWannA> the strange thing is other servers work
#1665 [13:14] <IgWannA> and single player works
#1666 [13:14] <IgWannA> but other people on this server don't have a problem
#1667 [13:14] <Thrae> IgWannA: Your friend needs to delete your player file -- sounds like it became corrupt.
#1668 [13:14] <IgWannA> so i'm wondering if it's something server side, i dunno if you can reset it or what
#1669 [13:14] <IgWannA> hm
#1670 [13:14] <IgWannA> yeah that sounds like it
#1671 [13:15] <IgWannA> the experience thing seemed messed up before all this happened, dont know if others had the same problem
#1672 [13:15] <Thrae> Is this a vanilla server?
#1673 [13:15] <IgWannA> where if i went to collect my stuff after i died, when collecting all the green experience orbs they would fill my screen and make it go nuts for about 30 seconds
#1674 [13:15] <IgWannA> i think so?
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#1676 [13:15] <IgWannA> it won't have mods if that's what you mean
#1677 [13:15] <Thrae> Yeah, I think there's a fix in 1.9 for that.
#1678 [13:15] <mArTi> hi
#1679 [13:16] <IgWannA> ok so how does he delete the player file?
#1680 [13:16] <mArTi> I've bought minecraft a few days ago but when I go on the website it says : http://i56.tinypic.com/2n6gsau.png and when I submit I get : http://i56.tinypic.com/2w2kg7p.png
#1681 [13:16] <mArTi> does somebody have an idea ? thanks
#1682 [13:17] <Thrae> IgWannA: It's pretty easy. Just go into the world folder, then the players folder, and delete the player file that's having problems. They're all named after the players.
#1683 [13:18] <Thrae> mArTi: Hmm, looks like there's a glitch on the website.
#1684 [13:18] <IgWannA> thanks thrae :]
#1685 [13:18] <mArTi> it's the third day I've the glitch Thrae :P
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#1687 [13:20] <Thrae> mArTi: I can't really find a place on the support page that will help you, so you should just go ahead and email support@mojang.com with an explanation of what's happening.
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#1690 [13:23] <Thrae> mArTi: Actually I may have something for you to try....
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#1692 [13:24] <Thrae> mArTi: Go ahead and try to login in again, then when you get that page prompting you to change your username, go to http://www.minecraft/profile/correctName instead.
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#1698 [13:35] <Hase> hello
#1699 [13:36] <Xashir> Hei, I have a problem in game, beacause, when piston pushes up block on which rails stay, rails are destroyed, can you do something with it in new update?
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#1703 [13:46] <mArTi> Thrae: it doesn't work, so I'll mail, thanks for your help :)
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#1706 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> Xashir: we are not official mojang
#1707 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> staff
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#1710 [13:54] <mib_pc2g8v> hey guys
#1711 [13:54] <mib_pc2g8v> I have a problem I would LOVE if some of you could help
#1712 [13:55] <mib_pc2g8v> any1 here here :) ?
#1713 [13:55] <mib_pc2g8v> XD
#1714 [13:55] <mib_pc2g8v> no1 :(?
#1715 [13:55] <mib_qqil07> Help...... i cant play the free version of the game with java....= =
#1716 [13:56] <mib_pc2g8v> I cant play the payed1
#1717 [13:56] <mib_qqil07> fatal error 4 wad is tat
#1718 [13:56] <mib_qqil07> = =
#1719 [13:56] <mib_pc2g8v> youtube ti
#1720 [13:56] <mib_pc2g8v> or something
#1721 [13:56] <mib_pc2g8v> I tryed everything just keep facking with meh
#1722 [13:56] <mib_pc2g8v> :)
#1723 [13:56] <mib_pc2g8v> Exception in thread "Thread-11" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError at ca.<clinit>(SourceFile:5) at fd.<clinit>(SourceFile:31) at sv.<clinit>(SourceFile:212) at lr.<clinit>(SourceFile:227) at mk.<init>(SourceFile:14) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.<init>(SourceFile:172) at l.<init>(SourceFile:34) at net.minecraft.client.MinecraftApplet.init(Sourc
#1724 [13:57] <mib_pc2g8v> What it says
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#1728 [14:00] <rhysmartin> I can't log onto minecraft it's telling me I have a bad driver card???/
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#1730 [14:01] <bletch> Hey, Can anyone help me? I am getting an error message every time I try to run Minecraft
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#1732 [14:02] <mib_pc2g8v> Ant1?
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#1734 [14:02] <mib_pc2g8v> I really need help
#1735 [14:03] <bletch> Same here
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#1737 [14:03] <mib_pc2g8v> Well i tryed like 2 weeks naw
#1738 [14:03] <bletch> What's your prob pc2?
#1739 [14:03] <mib_pc2g8v> still annoyes me to hell
#1740 [14:03] <mib_pc2g8v> Yep
#1741 [14:03] <rhysmartin> I'm getting error report 7fe0271????? anyone know what to do
#1742 [14:03] <mib_pc2g8v> Mine black screen
#1743 [14:03] <mib_pc2g8v> AND
#1744 [14:04] <mib_pc2g8v> Says "cant connect to minecraft.net"
#1745 [14:04] <rhysmartin> mine is a black screen also
#1746 [14:04] <bletch> Did you try reinstalling Java Completely new?
#1747 [14:04] <mib_pc2g8v> yep
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#1749 [14:04] <rhysmartin> yes free online java and offline
#1750 [14:04] <mib_pc2g8v> got java
#1751 [14:05] <mib_pc2g8v> can even play it it the window
#1752 [14:05] <bletch> What is your operating system?
#1753 [14:05] <bletch> 32 or 64 byte?
#1754 [14:05] <mib_pc2g8v> Windows 7
#1755 [14:05] <mib_pc2g8v> 64
#1756 [14:05] <bletch> Did you try this: Programs and Funktions
#1757 [14:06] <bletch> find all java related texts
#1758 [14:06] <bletch> Uninstall
#1759 [14:06] <bletch> and download this:
#1760 [14:06] <bletch> http://www.chip.de/downloads/Java-Runtime-Environment-64-Bit_42224883.html
#1761 [14:06] <mib_pc2g8v> ill try that
#1762 [14:06] <bletch> And tell me your outcome :p
#1763 [14:07] <mib_pc2g8v> How do i find all java related tekst?
#1764 [14:07] <bletch> ctrl F Java
#1765 [14:07] <mib_pc2g8v> in /c/programs ?
#1766 [14:07] <bletch> or just press J and look for everything with Java in it
#1767 [14:07] <bletch> no
#1768 [14:08] <bletch> in Control center
#1769 [14:08] <mib_pc2g8v> har
#1770 [14:08] <bletch> Programs and Funktions
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#1772 [14:08] <bletch> Start button - Control Center - Programs and Funktions - Java - Uninstall
#1773 [14:08] <bletch> Functions*
#1774 [14:09] <mib_pc2g8v> kk
#1775 [14:09] <mib_pc2g8v> Only 1 thing called java
#1776 [14:10] <mib_pc2g8v> Diieeaamm gotta close firefox brb mate
#1777 [14:10] <bletch> kk
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#1779 [14:13] <mib_wurirg> back
#1780 [14:13] <mib_wurirg> What was it i should install?
#1781 [14:13] <bletch> http://www.chip.de/downloads/Java-Runtime-Environment-64-Bit_42224883.html
#1782 [14:14] <mib_wurirg> kk downloaded
#1783 [14:14] <bletch> Install it whilest running no 3rd party application
#1784 [14:14] <mib_wurirg> installing
#1785 [14:14] <bletch> every 3rd party application closed?
#1786 [14:15] <mib_wurirg> What do you mean by that?
#1787 [14:15] <bletch> such as skype steam minecraft mozilla etc
#1788 [14:15] <bletch> and install it
#1789 [14:15] <mib_wurirg> kk so close all that stuff?
#1790 [14:15] <bletch> Yes
#1791 [14:15] <bletch> and then install
#1792 [14:16] <bletch> because those applications may get in the way of getting the java installed correctly
#1793 [14:16] <mib_wurirg> okai will do, Ill be back in a sec
#1794 [14:16] <bletch> Mkay
#1795 [14:16] <mib_wurirg> thanks for the help, See ya in a sec
#1796 [14:16] <bletch> tell me your results then
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#1799 [14:24] <mib_xxt7dl> hey
#1800 [14:24] <mib_xxt7dl> Did it naw
#1801 [14:24] <mib_xxt7dl> So now i uninstall minecraft or?
#1802 [14:24] <mib_xxt7dl> or delete the folder*
#1803 [14:25] <mib_xxt7dl> bletch you here :)?
#1804 [14:25] <bletch> yea sorry
#1805 [14:25] <bletch> was checkin music
#1806 [14:26] <mib_xxt7dl> hehe ;)
#1807 [14:26] <bletch> uhm no now you just try running minecraft normally
#1808 [14:26] <bletch> if that doesn't work try reinstalling minecraft
#1809 [14:26] <mib_xxt7dl> kk
#1810 [14:26] <bletch> (full Reinstall)
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#1812 [14:28] <mib_xxt7dl> ye delete the folder
#1813 [14:28] <mib_xxt7dl> .minecraft in romming right?
#1814 [14:30] <bletch> Yes
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#1816 [14:30] <bletch> roaming
#1817 [14:30] <bletch> yes
#1818 [14:30] <mib_xxt7dl> On the website it said 270kb, But when i downloaded it it was 264kb. Thats normal or?
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#1820 [14:30] <bletch> Yes, because it is compressed
#1821 [14:30] <mib_xxt7dl> kk
#1822 [14:31] <mib_xxt7dl> :( Says "cant connect to minecraft.net" as before
#1823 [14:31] <|Kiikun|> actually.. thats because the measuremes on the site is using 1000=k while the computer uses 1024
#1824 [14:32] <mib_xxt7dl> Want me to download it from the browser as i did before?
#1825 [14:32] <bletch> ah okay
#1826 [14:32] <bletch> thank's killkun didn't know that
#1827 [14:32] <bletch> no no
#1828 [14:32] <bletch> Go into your firewall
#1829 [14:32] <|Kiikun|> mib_xxt7dl: system time set right? has it ever worked before?
#1830 [14:32] <mib_xxt7dl> k
#1831 [14:32] <bletch> and check the settings for minecraft
#1832 [14:33] <|Kiikun|> bletch: minecraft would be listed under java :P
#1833 [14:33] <mib_xxt7dl> omg says Blocked
#1834 [14:33] <mib_xxt7dl> :O
#1835 [14:33] <|Kiikun|> mib_xxt7dl: unblock it :3
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#1837 [14:34] <bletch> Kill I don't think you error codes, am I right?
#1838 [14:34] <bletch> know*
#1839 [14:34] <bletch> If not there is a possibility that you could help me with my problem
#1840 [14:35] <mib_xxt7dl> bah
#1841 [14:35] <mib_xxt7dl> unblocked it,
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#1843 [14:35] <mib_xxt7dl> still says "cant connect to m.net
#1844 [14:36] <bletch> Anti virus program?
#1845 [14:36] <mib_xxt7dl> avg
#1846 [14:36] <bletch> go to properties exceptions and put minecraft into that
#1847 [14:36] <bletch> and then try
#1848 [14:37] <mib_xxt7dl> what about closeint avg?
#1849 [14:37] <mib_xxt7dl> Coz i cant find Properties exceptions
#1850 [14:38] <bletch> Yeah, then try to close it
#1851 [14:38] <bletch> if that works you know you have to put minecraft under exceptions
#1852 [14:38] <bletch> Kill you there bro?
#1853 [14:38] <bletch> Kii*
#1854 [14:38] <bletch> sorry
#1855 [14:39] <bletch> @Kiikun you there?
#1856 [14:40] <|Kiikun|> on phone :P
#1857 [14:40] <bletch> Do you know your way through error messages?
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#1860 [14:40] <bletch> Cuz I tried installing High quality recourse mod and ever since then I can't even log into the world
#1861 [14:40] <mib_xxt7dl> damm it, cant closr the dammthing :)
#1862 [14:41] <bletch> Right click your action bar
#1863 [14:41] <bletch> task manager
#1864 [14:41] <bletch> AVG.exe end process
#1865 [14:41] <SIRdrawsalot> that mac fix mod didnt work
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#1867 [14:42] <mib_xxt7dl> ye, Well thats the problem theres sone AVG.exe only like 1000 dif Avgtray,, so on :S and cant close em, 2 sec ill try to google it
#1868 [14:42] <bletch> Avgtray close all links
#1869 [14:42] <bletch> wait here
#1870 [14:43] <christiandegott> I just started playing Minecraft, because my friends said it was cool. But now I can't destroy blocks, which means I get no wood and stuff. Not so much fun… Is this a known bug?
#1871 [14:43] <bletch> rightclick the AVG tray and use Process structure close
#1872 [14:43] <bletch> Christiandegott, everything up to date?
#1873 [14:44] <bletch> such as java?
#1874 [14:44] <bletch> if not try reinstalling
#1875 [14:44] <mib_xxt7dl> damm, thay just start up agian,
#1876 [14:44] <mib_xxt7dl> kk ill try the other way
#1877 [14:44] <christiand> I think so and I tried reinstalling…
#1878 [14:44] <bletch> hmm
#1879 [14:44] <christiand> It looks like the blocks repair themselves after every click I do…
#1880 [14:45] <bletch> do you hold down the mouse button?
#1881 [14:45] <bletch> or click?
#1882 [14:45] <christiand> click
#1883 [14:45] <mib_xxt7dl> Trololol ;P
#1884 [14:45] <bletch> Oh :p
#1885 [14:45] <mib_xxt7dl> xD
#1886 [14:45] <bletch> you gotta hold down the mouse button my friend
#1887 [14:45] <bletch> Stop laughing xxt7dl
#1888 [14:46] <christiand> I feel so stupid right now…
#1889 [14:46] <bletch> this person obviously didn'T read the instructions
#1890 [14:46] <mib_xxt7dl> Dw :) Your not
#1891 [14:46] <bletch> No need to
#1892 [14:46] <bletch> Can happen :p
#1893 [14:46] <bletch> Is it working now?
#1894 [14:46] <mib_xxt7dl> did the samething
#1895 [14:46] <christiand> I watch this tutorial video and he said something like 'left click - holding is faster‘
#1896 [14:46] <christiand> Yeah it's working right now
#1897 [14:46] <christiand> Thanks!
#1898 [14:46] <bletch> haha
#1899 [14:46] <bletch> no prob
#1900 [14:46] <bletch> anyways I am off
#1901 [14:47] <bletch> cya
#1902 [14:47] <christiand> cu
#1903 [14:47] <mib_xxt7dl> w8
#1904 [14:47] <bletch> xxt7dl
#1905 [14:47] <bletch> can't help you man
#1906 [14:47] <mib_xxt7dl> :(
#1907 [14:47] <bletch> there is a forum post here:
#1908 [14:47] <bletch> http://www.minecraftforum.net/
#1909 [14:47] <bletch> browse that
#1910 [14:47] <bletch> my last help
#1911 [14:47] <bletch> sorry
#1912 [14:47] <bletch> bye
#1913 [14:48] <mib_xxt7dl> bye
#1914 [14:48] <mib_xxt7dl> ty for the try
#1915 [14:48] <Calinou> probably spawn protection...
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#1920 [14:59] <SIRdrawsalot> Does the Mcpatcher work with the modded mac 1.8 version?
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#1926 [15:03] <SIRdrawsalot> so would Mc patcher fix the skin on 1.8 on my new modded version for my mac?
#1927 [15:04] <DasKibby> hello, i have a quick question regarding Runecraft: Is it possible to use initiation to block new players from using runes but still allow everybody to use public teleporters?
#1928 [15:05] <xales> ??> DasKibby mods
#1929 [15:05] <VoxelHead> DasKibby: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#1930 [15:05] <VoxelHead> DasKibby: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1931 [15:05] <DasKibby> k, thanks =)
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#1933 [15:07] <Kaito> is there a quick way to clear cobbwebs, such as around cave spider spawners?
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#1935 [15:07] <Kaito> you cant burn them, sadly :(
#1936 [15:07] <DasKibby> sword is pretty quick
#1937 [15:07] <Kaito> but it breaks my sword :(
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#1939 [15:11] <guest-0-60943> can someone help me with my minecraft being forced to run on my integrated graphics card?
#1940 [15:11] <Kaito> fuck you underground endermen
#1941 [15:11] * AuBot kicked Kaito from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aito :Please keep it civil.)
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#1943 [15:11] <Kaito> D:
#1944 [15:12] <xales> guest-0-60943: Disable the integrated card
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#1946 [15:12] <guest-0-60943> I have disabled it, but my ati radeon 6870 doesnt see that minecraft is a game, there for it does not run, but because minecraft still needs a card to run on it forces my disabled integrated card to run it.
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#1948 [15:13] <guest-0-60943> it has happened before to someone else, but they had a nvidia card
#1949 [15:13] <xales> If you disabled your card successfully, then the computer would not be capable of using it whatsoever, forcing it to use the discrete card
#1950 [15:13] <xales> Disable it in the BIOS
#1951 [15:13] <guest-0-60943> i have called AMD and they couldnt help
#1952 [15:13] <guest-0-60943> I did
#1953 [15:14] <xales> If it's disabled in the BIOS, then it's not even powered on
#1954 [15:14] <xales> (or your BIOS sucks)
#1955 [15:14] <xales> and if AMD can't help, there's not really much I can do. Rip the integrated card out, maybe?
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#1957 [15:14] <guest-0-60943> but while runing minecraft my frames dont improve, it still stutters, and my 6870 is sitting at 0
#1958 [15:14] <xales> Or, if it's a desktop, don't plug your monitor into the motherboard, plug it into the discrete card
#1959 [15:15] <guest-0-60943> already did it
#1960 [15:15] <guest-0-60943> nothing i try seems to work
#1961 [15:15] <xales> It's a Radeon HD, not a ye olde Readon, correct?
#1962 [15:15] <guest-0-60943> Yeah, ATI Radeon HD 6870
#1963 [15:15] <Kaito> IM SURROUNDED
#1964 [15:15] <Kaito> D:
#1965 [15:15] <xales> Is it a desktop, or a laptop?
#1966 [15:16] <guest-0-60943> desktop
#1967 [15:16] <Ketsueki> guest-0-60943: windows (not linux)?
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#1969 [15:16] <guest-0-60943> windows 7 ultimate x64
#1970 [15:16] <xales> If the integrated card is disabled in BIOS, and the monitor is plugged into the AMD card, then the Radeon is the card that is active
#1971 [15:16] <Ketsueki> ??> guest-0-60943 gpu/ati
#1972 [15:16] <xales> it is not physically possible for the integrated card to be processing the graphics if it's not plugged in
#1973 [15:16] <Ketsueki> ??> guest-0-60943 gpu/amd
#1974 [15:16] <VoxelHead> guest-0-60943: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1975 [15:17] <xales> Anyway, I have to go, I'll be back later
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#1977 [15:17] <guest-0-60943> but when im running the game my 6870 is at 0% capacity
#1978 [15:17] <Ketsueki> guest-0-60943: please make sure your using the AMD drivers and that you have the latest ones installed
#1979 [15:17] <guest-0-60943> I do
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#1983 [15:17] <guest-0-60943> i have uninstalled and reinstalled all the drivers for the card, but minecraft is the only game that has problems
#1984 [15:18] <Ketsueki> guest-0-60943: maybe try fixing java?
#1985 [15:19] <Ketsueki> ??> guest-0-60943 javara
#1986 [15:19] <Ketsueki> ??> guest-0-60943 win/javara
#1987 [15:19] <Kaito> I made it back!
#1988 [15:19] <VoxelHead> guest-0-60943: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1989 [15:19] <Kaito> :'D
#1990 [15:19] <VoxelHead> guest-0-60943: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#1991 [15:19] <guest-0-60943> im downloading javara now
#1992 [15:19] <Ketsueki> guest-0-60943: I'm just guessing that java, for some crazy reason, isn't using the correct 3d output
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#1994 [15:22] <mib_a9zhqq> im on my mac and it says login failed please help
#1995 [15:22] <guest-0-60943> huh, it didnt do anything
#1996 [15:22] <Kaito> how do you get slime balls from slimes again?
#1997 [15:23] <Kaito> just by killing them, and it's a % chance?
#1998 [15:24] <mib_a9zhqq> mib
#1999 [15:25] <guest-0-60943> oh
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#2001 [15:28] <Ketsueki> mib_1laq7t: you need to download the new launcher
#2002 [15:28] <Ketsueki> ... a9 left
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#2006 [15:32] <|Kiikun|> hah! im NOT crazy!
#2007 [15:33] * |Kiikun| hasnt seen a single rose generated in any 1.8 region
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#2008 [15:34] <mib_1laq7t> hey
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#2010 [15:35] <mib_1laq7t> <---- need help
#2011 [15:35] <mib_1laq7t> Cant connect to minecraft
#2012 [15:35] <|Kiikun|> mib_1laq7t: have you been able to connect before?
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#2014 [15:35] <mib_1laq7t> not on this pc
#2015 [15:35] <mib_1laq7t> But on my 2 others year
#2016 [15:35] <mib_1laq7t> yeah*
#2017 [15:36] <mib_1laq7t> Now iv got this new it says "cant connect to minecraft.net"
#2018 [15:36] <|Kiikun|> mib_1laq7t: windows?
#2019 [15:36] <mib_1laq7t> y
#2020 [15:36] <mib_1laq7t> w7 64
#2021 [15:37] <|Kiikun|> mib_1laq7t: does your windows username contain an !?
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#2023 [15:37] <mib_1laq7t> what do you mean?
#2024 [15:38] <|Kiikun|> mib_1laq7t: does your username on windows, the one that shows on your start menu, contain any characters like ! & or something?
#2025 [15:38] <mib_1laq7t> yeah
#2026 [15:38] <mib_1laq7t> it does
#2027 [15:38] <|Kiikun|> ??> mib_1laq7t !
#2028 [15:38] <VoxelHead> mib_1laq7t: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#2029 [15:38] <VoxelHead> mib_1laq7t: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
#2030 [15:38] <mib_1laq7t> named
#2031 [15:38] <mib_1laq7t> DaUbbêaHaxer!
#2032 [15:39] <mib_1laq7t> okai, could i just rename myself?
#2033 [15:39] <|Kiikun|> mib_1laq7t: nope. that would just change the display name. windows will still call you internally the same and thats the issue.
#2034 [15:39] <mib_1laq7t> kk
#2035 [15:40] <mib_1laq7t> do i downlaod
#2036 [15:40] <|Kiikun|> mib_1laq7t: you COULD create a whole new user on the computer.. or just follow the link from vox
#2037 [15:40] <mib_1laq7t> the thing you send me?
#2038 [15:40] <|Kiikun|> mib_1laq7t: yup. that instals a workaround.
#2039 [15:40] <mib_1laq7t> FUCK YEAH!
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#2044 [15:41] <kendle> THANK YOU SOO MUCH MAN!
#2045 [15:41] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2046 [15:42] <|Kiikun|> no prob :D
#2047 [15:42] <kendle> OMFG SRSLY I LOVE YOU MAN
#2048 [15:42] <|Kiikun|> kendle: thank wug. its his fix :P
#2049 [15:43] <|Kiikun|> kendle: also, if you need to access the .minecraft folder, rightclick the shortcut and click 'open file location'
#2050 [15:43] <kendle> faral error occured [2] ./.minecraft/bin/version
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#2052 [15:44] <kendle> acces denied
#2053 [15:44] <kendle> it says
#2054 [15:44] <kendle> :O
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#2056 [15:44] <kendle> how do i fix that mate?
#2057 [15:45] <|Kiikun|> kendle: go here and tell me what it says http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
#2058 [15:45] <kendle> lates version oin java installed
#2059 [15:45] <kendle> faral error occured [2] ./.minecraft/bin/version
#2060 [15:45] <kendle> ups wrong C :)
#2061 [15:45] <kendle> But says i got the latest version
#2062 [15:46] <|Kiikun|> kendle: it should say wether java is working or not :P
#2063 [15:46] <kendle> arhh yea says
#2064 [15:46] <kendle> Your Java is working
#2065 [15:47] <|Kiikun|> ok. rightclick the minecraft shortcut on your desktop and click ' open file location'
#2066 [15:47] <kendle> Could it bee that minecraft is not installed yet.?
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#2068 [15:47] <kendle> coz I deleted it 2 sec ago
#2069 [15:47] <|Kiikun|> kendle: thats a jaav error saying it doesnt have 'rights' to minecraft.
#2070 [15:47] <kendle> due to it froze on 13% after i used you way :) So i deleted it
#2071 [15:48] <kendle> kk
#2072 [15:48] <kendle> open as admin?
#2073 [15:48] <|Kiikun|> kendle: no, open file location... you dont have that? *is using ultimate*
#2074 [15:48] <kendle> yep
#2075 [15:49] <kendle> you mean the appdata roming?
#2076 [15:49] <kendle> or the downloads?
#2077 [15:49] <kendle> roaming*
#2078 [15:50] <|Kiikun|> kendle: the fix is to install minecraft somewhere else besides %appdata%. it installs under the all users profile.
#2079 [15:50] <kendle> hmm naw it workds
#2080 [15:50] <|Kiikun|> kendle: worked this time?
#2081 [15:50] <kendle> updating minecraft
#2082 [15:50] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2083 [15:50] <kendle> but is frozen on 1% :S
#2084 [15:51] <|Kiikun|> kendle: have you updated your video drivers?
#2085 [15:51] <kendle> Yep
#2086 [15:51] <kendle> You know the "play for free" on the website?
#2087 [15:51] <|Kiikun|> kendle: the only 'play for free' is Classic.
#2088 [15:52] <kendle> ye, but I mean my graphic card should work there 2
#2089 [15:53] <|Kiikun|> kendle: video crivers is just one of the things that can cause the stalled download.
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#2091 [15:53] <kendle> ok
#2092 [15:53] <|Kiikun|> drivers...
#2093 [15:53] <|Kiikun|> hi Calinou!
#2094 [15:53] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2095 [15:53] <kendle> it it up to date
#2096 [15:53] <|Kiikun|> ??> kendle forceupdate
#2097 [15:53] <VoxelHead> kendle: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2098 [15:53] <VoxelHead> kendle: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2099 [15:54] <|Kiikun|> kendle: givethis a try
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#2101 [15:54] <kendle> when i tryed Forceupdate it said
#2102 [15:54] <kendle> faral error occured [2] ./.minecraft/bin/version
#2103 [15:55] <kendle> access deined
#2104 [15:55] <reedlepee> Hi Guys, question time!!!
#2105 [15:55] <kendle> Want me to remove all minecraft reltared stuff on my pc?
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#2107 [15:56] <K-mountain> Yo! how do u change ur email adress that is used with the minecraft site?
#2108 [15:56] <|Kiikun|> kendle: press Win+R and type in %allusersprofile%
#2109 [15:57] <|Kiikun|> kendle: in that folder shoudl be a minecraft folder. in THERE delete the .minecraft folder
#2110 [15:57] <|Kiikun|> K-mountain: dont think you can. www.minecraft.net/support
#2111 [15:58] <reedlepee> Have a Problem with Minecraft constantly crashing about "run out of Memory". I think i know the problem, i did a lot of exploring and as a result my Savefile (in singleplayer) is now 108 Mb big... is this relevant???
#2112 [15:58] <kendle> kk i deleted it naw
#2113 [15:58] <|Kiikun|> kendle: ok run the client and it should work
#2114 [15:58] <K-mountain> Nah. oh shit :/ don't wanna buy the game for that email, but wanna keep my user name. guess I won't buy the game yet then ..
#2115 [15:59] <kendle> Damm it :S froze on 12% now
#2116 [15:59] <kendle> want me to delete the HOLE map minecraft? in al users
#2117 [16:00] <reedlepee> Any suggestions would be nice ^^ Does a programm exists that can reduce Singleplayer Maps to a smalller size?
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#2119 [16:01] <reedlepee> aka deöete places that are not relevant
#2120 [16:01] <|Kiikun|> kendle: the minecraft folder itself holds the workaround. the .minecraft folder is the stuff youre having issues with.
#2121 [16:01] <kendle> LOL! now i tryed Force download and it froze at 74% >.<
#2122 [16:01] <|Kiikun|> reedlepee: mcedit can do that.. but that hsouldnt matter for 'out of memory'
#2123 [16:01] <guest-0-10898> are there any minecraft admins here, i need help
#2124 [16:02] <reedlepee> ok thanks so any other suggestions about that Memory problem???
#2125 [16:02] <Carrot> Guest
#2126 [16:02] <Carrot> Is it for the forums?
#2127 [16:02] <guest-0-10898> no my account
#2128 [16:02] <Carrot> What seems to be the problem with your account?
#2129 [16:02] <|Kiikun|> reedlepee: try lowering graphic settings.
#2130 [16:02] <|Kiikun|> ?? account
#2131 [16:02] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#2132 [16:03] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#2133 [16:03] <reedlepee> have tryed that alot but it doesent matter
#2134 [16:03] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-10898: best we can do in narrow down issue, not actually fix anything
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#2136 [16:03] <|Kiikun|> reedlepee: is it just that one world?
#2137 [16:03] <kendle> Killkun, now it frezzes at 4% :O It just seems too freeze randomly?
#2138 [16:04] <reedlepee> yes it is
#2139 [16:04] <guest-0-62387> Hi everyone, I get a bad video card drivers error when I try to launch minecraft. Help please
#2140 [16:04] <|Kiikun|> reedlepee: its POSSIBLE that you have a ton of entities somewhere and theyre maxing out your memory.check out with mcedit.
#2141 [16:04] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-10898: update your video drivers.
#2142 [16:05] <|Kiikun|> ??> reedlepee mcedit
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#2144 [16:05] <VoxelHead> reedlepee: (mcedit) http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#2145 [16:05] <guest-0-62387> I have tried
#2146 [16:05] <kendle> Killkun? you still there?
#2147 [16:05] <reedlepee> maybe its the redstone wirering i placed, because my minecart system is huge an the signals have to travel long distances
#2148 [16:05] <reedlepee> ok im gonna check that out
#2149 [16:05] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-62387: what video card do you have then?
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#2151 [16:05] <kendle> So far it frozen on 3% - 4% - 16% - 74%
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#2153 [16:06] <|Kiikun|> kendle: sorry... i cant think of anything else besides maybe an antivirus causing it. try disabling any AVs and updatinfg
#2154 [16:06] <kendle> okai
#2155 [16:06] <kendle> ill try to restart the pc
#2156 [16:06] <kendle> brb and THANKS FOR THE HELP. you made the cant connect work
#2157 [16:07] <|Kiikun|> kendle: restarts fix lots of random hickups :3
#2158 [16:07] <Benneh> For some reason, I get an error saying bad video card drivers. Any help please? I've tried to update
#2159 [16:07] <kendle> see ya in some mins
#2160 [16:07] <|Kiikun|> Benneh: update video drivers.
#2161 [16:07] <Benneh> I have tried
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#2163 [16:07] <|Kiikun|> Benneh: then answer my earlier question
#2164 [16:08] * |Kiikun| thought Benneh was a new person
#2164 [16:08] <Benneh> An ATI Radeon HD 4850
#2165 [16:08] <Benneh> the 1024 mb one
#2166 [16:08] <|Kiikun|> you on a dell or hp?
#2167 [16:09] <Benneh> Custom Gaming Rig
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#2170 [16:10] <mib_qyv178> hello
#2171 [16:10] <|Kiikun|> Benneh: and what version catalyst software you have? (the ATI/AMD drivers)
#2172 [16:11] <mib_qyv178> can someone help me
#2173 [16:11] <lastelemental> with what?
#2174 [16:11] <mib_qyv178> the 1.9 pre release
#2175 [16:11] <mib_qyv178> when i download it i just get a folder
#2176 [16:12] <|Kiikun|> mib_qyv178: i am going to asume were falling under the same rule as the 1.8pr... WE DONT HELP WITH IT
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#2178 [16:12] <lastelemental> betas of beta are not easy to help with
#2179 [16:13] <mib_qyv178> i know but when i download it i just get a zip folder
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#2181 [16:14] <|Kiikun|> mib_qyv178: if you dont know how to install the prerelease, then i sugest not even trying because its likely to be filled with bugs anyway
#2182 [16:14] <mib_qyv178> i know....ok. but i thought you guys know how to do this type of stuff.
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#2184 [16:15] <lemon-rev> mib_qyv178 what type of files are inside the folder and are you windows / mac
#2185 [16:15] <|Kiikun|> lemon-rev: he's got the 1.9 prerelease and is looking at the jar as if its a zip file.
#2186 [16:15] <|Kiikun|> lemon-rev: atleast.. thats my asumption
#2187 [16:16] <mib_qyv178> thats it exactly
#2188 [16:16] <lemon-rev> well just get him to rename it, and then just copy it to the appdata thingi
#2189 [16:16] <mib_34rh0w> hey its me
#2190 [16:16] <mib_34rh0w> Kiikun
#2191 [16:16] <mib_34rh0w> Wanna share screen ?
#2192 [16:16] <|Kiikun|> mib_34rh0w: wb :P type /nick kendle
#2193 [16:16] <mib_34rh0w> So you able to see what it says
#2194 [16:16] <kendle> :)
#2195 [16:17] <|Kiikun|> there :D now your not random mib :P
#2196 [16:17] <kendle> But wanna share screen?
#2197 [16:17] <|Kiikun|> kendle: and i wanna go get food soon.. so im not teamviewering atm.
#2198 [16:17] <|Kiikun|> kendle: still stalling?
#2199 [16:17] <kendle> ok, ye
#2200 [16:17] <kendle> whats the most annoying part is
#2201 [16:17] <kendle> its totaly random
#2202 [16:18] <kendle> 1% somethism then 15 then 13%
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#2204 [16:18] <|Kiikun|> lemon-rev: what else besides java, video drivers, and antivirus can cause stalled downloads?
#2205 [16:18] <lemon-rev> lol like it how they said we get new bugs
#2206 [16:18] <lemon-rev> hm, buggy hd
#2207 [16:19] <kendle> hmm Killkun should i make a new user
#2208 [16:19] <lemon-rev> have they completely killed the mc diretory
#2209 [16:19] <kendle> witch dont have any virus shit on it hehe :)?
#2210 [16:19] <lemon-rev> also have they tryed getting the files direct though minecraft.net site
#2211 [16:19] <|Kiikun|> kendle: give it a shot.
#2212 [16:19] <lemon-rev> though the in broswer
#2213 [16:19] <|Kiikun|> ooh.. forgot that... wait
#2214 [16:19] <|Kiikun|> wont work since he's using the ! fix
#2215 [16:19] <lemon-rev> hm
#2216 [16:20] <lemon-rev> ie update ?
#2217 [16:20] <\kz> Guys, if i bought the beta version today would it be 1.9?
#2218 [16:20] <mib_qyv178> no
#2219 [16:20] <lastelemental> 1.8.1
#2220 [16:20] <lemon-rev> it would be 1.8.1 unless you knew how to get 1.9 installed
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#2222 [16:20] <\kz> i know there is a .jar file :P
#2223 [16:20] <kendle> Well im gonna go on the new user
#2224 [16:20] <kendle> see ya in a sec
#2225 [16:20] <mib_qyv178> so all i do is rename the file lemon?
#2226 [16:20] <|Kiikun|> \kz: you buy the game today and you get access to beta. 1.8.1 is current and you get all updates including final release.
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#2228 [16:21] <|Kiikun|> kendle: on the new user, just get minecraft normally.
#2229 [16:21] <\kz> oh, ok thx guys
#2230 [16:22] <|Kiikun|> ... oh bloody hell.... minecon attendees get cloaks now.
#2231 [16:22] <\kz> so how can i get 1.9 beta?
#2232 [16:23] <[z]2> I'd just wait for official 1.9 release rather than the prerelease..
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#2234 [16:23] <reedlepee> @ Kiikun: Thanks it helped alot ^^ no more crashing an my mapsize is now 45 Mb. Thanks again!!!!!
#2235 [16:24] <lemon-rev> yay good mobs are already here dammit took em long enough lol
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#2237 [16:24] <mib_ono3u1> Anyone getting a username error?
#2238 [16:24] <mib_ono3u1> and when you try to change it, it links to https://www.minecraft.net/profile/doCorrectName
#2239 [16:24] <mib_ono3u1> which is a 404
#2240 [16:24] <\kz> got it, so i wont have to buy again right?
#2241 [16:24] <lemon-rev> correct
#2242 [16:24] <\kz> thx man!
#2243 [16:25] <|Kiikun|> mib_ono3u1: thats because your name has a space in it i asume... and site is under maintnence/upgrades so parts are borked
#2244 [16:25] * lemon-rev wonders why notch took away the ability to jump like animals and hold down spacebar :(
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#2245 [16:26] <Wug> ;+ name/change You can change your name from this page: http://minecraft.net/profile/correctName
#2246 [16:26] <WugBot> Done.
#2247 [16:26] <Wug> I HAVE DISCOVERED IT
#2248 [16:26] <lastelemental> Lemon what version are you using?
#2249 [16:26] <lemon-rev> lol pre
#2250 [16:26] <|Kiikun|> ...
#2251 [16:26] <lemon-rev> atm, woke up , on here and testing
#2252 [16:26] <lastelemental> lol
#2253 [16:27] <Wug> |Kiikun|: the link on the website is wrong
#2254 [16:27] <Wug> use that one instead
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#2258 [16:27] <|Kiikun|> i know. :P too bad it only works for people with invalid names
#2259 [16:28] <__import__> Any way to change your name other than change/name?
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#2262 [16:28] <|Kiikun|> __import__: nope.. and only works for invalid names anyway :/
#2263 [16:28] <__import__> Yea, I saw that
#2264 [16:28] <davidmc11> Can anyone help me out with server plugins?
#2265 [16:28] <|Kiikun|> ??> davidmc11 mods
#2266 [16:28] <VoxelHead> davidmc11: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#2267 [16:28] <VoxelHead> davidmc11: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2268 [16:29] <OJACheung> Hi
#2269 [16:29] <OJACheung> I have a question
#2270 [16:29] <OJACheung> Is this the right place to ask it?
#2271 [16:29] <lastelemental> is it about minecraft?
#2272 [16:29] <|Kiikun|> OJACheung: usually yes :P
#2273 [16:30] <mib_ono3u1> No, it doesn't work with invalid names, you get linked to an error page.
#2274 [16:30] <OJACheung> Yep
#2275 [16:30] * |Kiikun| asumes its ATLEAST about minecraft or problems relatign to minecraft...
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#2276 [16:30] <lastelemental> Kiikun you never know
#2277 [16:30] * |Kiikun| woudl also accept 'Where do you get a cool hat like Notch?'
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#2278 [16:31] <lastelemental> Notch had it custom made prob
#2279 [16:31] <|Kiikun|> i doubt that :P
#2280 [16:31] <lastelemental> did you ask him?
#2281 [16:31] <OJACheung> So when I try get onto the server I normally play on, I get stuck on "downloading terrain". I can play on other servers though.
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#2283 [16:31] <|Kiikun|> nope. im not as awesoem as grey and wug
#2284 [16:31] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2285 [16:31] <lastelemental> brb
#2286 [16:32] <mib_gr7txu> anyone know how to fix the stupid black screen -_-
#2287 [16:32] <Wug> is there a 1.9 prerelease or something?
#2288 [16:32] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu reinstall java
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#2290 [16:32] <lemon-rev> wug yea
#2291 [16:32] <lemon-rev> fourms
#2292 [16:32] <mib_gr7txu> done that like 20 times :L
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#2294 [16:32] <Wug> cool. is it an actual prerelease or a leak
#2295 [16:32] <lemon-rev> well pre > not leek according to site
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#2297 [16:33] <mib_gr7txu> looked at everything and it wont work in browser or download
#2298 [16:33] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu goto minecraft.net and login and click in broswer
#2299 [16:33] <lemon-rev> tell me what it says
#2300 [16:33] <OJACheung> I'm on a mac and I don't know how to reinstall java
#2301 [16:33] <lemon-rev> hm
#2302 [16:33] <mib_gr7txu> oka brb
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#2305 [16:34] <kennel> XD
#2306 [16:34] <kennel> It worked xD
#2307 [16:34] <|Kiikun|> Quote from GamePro Article: Minecraft 1.8's early release to enthusiastic people who knew what a .jar file was and where to put it proved so successful and helpful to the team at Mojang that they've decided to do it again, on the understanding that it will, again, likely be buggy and need tweaking before an official public release. Those who download it on this understanding will become
#2308 [16:34] <|Kiikun|> a helpful (and unofficial) part of Mojang's quality assurance team.
#2309 [16:35] <lemon-rev> lol
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#2311 [16:35] <lemon-rev> so far soo good for 1.9
#2312 [16:35] * |Kiikun| likes the 'know what to do with it' part
#2312 [16:35] <mib_gr7txu> right loaded it in browser it does the loading thing then it just goes black :L
#2313 [16:35] <lemon-rev> dammit, still got the stuttering bug
#2314 [16:36] <|Kiikun|> lemon-rev: running?
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#2316 [16:36] <lemon-rev> so far yea
#2317 [16:36] <lemon-rev> oh
#2318 [16:36] <lemon-rev> no
#2319 [16:36] <lemon-rev> just jumping around and stuff
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#2321 [16:37] <mib_gr7txu> no juust black screen does the java cup of tea thing then says minecraft loading the bar goes full green then the screen just goes black :L
#2322 [16:37] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu does the green bar move ?
#2323 [16:38] <Kottorp> Hey guys! I've got a problem, can't connect to any online servers :( It just says Connection Lost, End Of Stream. Help me <3
#2324 [16:38] <mib_gr7txu> yeaa it goes right to the end then the screen goes to change to the single player multiplayer etc but it just goes black and stays :L
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#2328 [16:39] <mib_gr7txu> yet the origainal free verrsion loads fine
#2329 [16:39] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu is that in broswer ?
#2330 [16:40] <mib_gr7txu> yeaa then download does the same thing exept it leaves a note on my main start page thing
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#2332 [16:40] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu can you open up that note in notepad on your computer goto pastebin.com and paste info in there then submit it and give us the http link please
#2333 [16:41] <Wug> I need +r in more places :P
#2334 [16:41] <mib_gr7txu> on it
#2335 [16:42] <mib_gr7txu> http://pastebin.com/rRV6nbQf think thats it
#2336 [16:42] <lemon-rev> ty
#2337 [16:42] <Kottorp> anyone know any solution to connection lost, end of stream error?
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#2339 [16:43] <lemon-rev> Kottorp it means servers not running
#2340 [16:43] <mib_fuwhh0> hey
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#2342 [16:43] <Kottorp> The thing is, they are :( My friend is able to log in and play, i just get stuck at logging in :(
#2343 [16:43] <lemon-rev> guys whats the link to check your java version ?
#2344 [16:44] <lemon-rev> i thought it was like 6.0.27 or something now, not 26 still
#2345 [16:44] <lastelemental> http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2346 [16:45] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu click on that link yea to java.com
#2347 [16:45] <mib_gr7txu> yeaa downloaded now what
#2348 [16:45] <lastelemental> go to that link and hit verify
#2349 [16:46] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu if you downloaded a exe. i think you should run it
#2350 [16:46] <mib_gr7txu> says i gotta close browser to continue so brb
#2351 [16:46] <lemon-rev> k
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#2353 [16:47] <lastelemental> ya know no title bars makes it hard to use windows
#2354 [16:47] <Kottorp> this is so strange...now all the sudden, im able to play online! magic thoughts from ur side guys?
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#2362 [16:53] <mib_gr7txu> right lemon rev its the guy having trouble with the blackscreen just gave me a diff name i think ?
#2363 [16:53] <lemon-rev> yup
#2364 [16:53] <lemon-rev> anyway
#2365 [16:53] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu try relaunching mc
#2366 [16:54] <mib_gr7txu> downlaoded it and confirmed the changes with microsoft defender thing so that shoukd be done ?
#2367 [16:55] <lemon-rev> ye
#2368 [16:55] <lemon-rev> please
#2369 [16:55] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu can you check with that defender program its not blocking minecraft.exe or minecraft.jar
#2370 [16:55] <mib_gr7txu> please what ? downlaoding the minecraft thing again
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#2372 [16:56] <__import__> mib_gr7txu, you shoudl only need to download it once
#2373 [16:56] <mib_gr7txu> how do uu do that :s?
#2374 [16:56] <__import__> Do what?
#2375 [16:56] <__import__> Download MC?
#2376 [16:56] <__import__> http://minecraft.net/download.jsp
#2377 [16:57] <mib_gr7txu> yeahh i know got that mate
#2378 [16:57] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu when you click on the launcher or go though webpage in broswer on minecraft.net thats downloading mc and once its done so it should not have to do so again
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#2380 [16:58] <mib_gr7txu> yeaa but i deleted the downlaod mc thing cuz i got pissed :L so re downlaoding it now
#2381 [16:58] <lemon-rev> yes
#2382 [16:59] <__import__> mib_gr7txu, the launcher doesn't change from one download to another
#2383 [16:59] <mib_gr7txu> _impot_ im confused as it is atm mate just following instructions atm thanks
#2384 [17:00] <mib_gr7txu> did the exact same thing :L
#2385 [17:00] <lemon-rev> ??> mib_gr7txu win/reinst
#2386 [17:00] <VoxelHead> mib_gr7txu: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2387 [17:00] <VoxelHead> mib_gr7txu: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2389 [17:00] <edwardthefma> i dont like the world genaratior
#2390 [17:01] <mib_gr7txu> went black screen and sent the error note again
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#2392 [17:01] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu follow vox
#2393 [17:01] <mib_gr7txu> and wait what ? not a clue :S
#2394 [17:01] <mib_gr7txu> yea am but not get it
#2395 [17:02] <|Kiikun|> ?? win/key
#2396 [17:02] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2397 [17:02] <excalibr23> Is there a tool or explanation anywhere about switching from perm 3.x to bukkit perms?
#2398 [17:02] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu im not saying kill the file you just downloaded im saying just kill the /bin folder inside .minecraft folder
#2399 [17:02] <excalibr23> Need to make the change and I know it's gunna suck lol
#2400 [17:02] <|Kiikun|> excalibr23: ask in #bukkit
#2401 [17:02] <excalibr23> Thanks kiikun
#2402 [17:03] <mib_gr7txu> right sorry im tired as shit didnt get that vox whats the other specified key ima noob :L
#2403 [17:04] <Kottorp> New problem for me guys...running out of memory?
#2404 [17:04] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu come back when your rested
#2405 [17:05] <mib_gr7txu> wanna do it now tbh get it out the way just tell me what its called ...... basically reallllyyyyyyy simple please :)
#2406 [17:06] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu the windows key its between alt and ctrl key
#2407 [17:07] <mib_gr7txu> yupp know that one but what i gotta click the minecraft .exe thing yea ?
#2408 [17:07] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu what does vox say to do after you get to the .minecraft folder
#2409 [17:08] <mib_gr7txu> dunno dont think he mentioned it :s
#2410 [17:08] <lemon-rev> ??> mib_gr7txu win/reinst
#2411 [17:08] <VoxelHead> mib_gr7txu: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2412 [17:08] <VoxelHead> mib_gr7txu: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2413 [17:10] <rymate1234> !haspaid Miami
#2414 [17:11] <mib_gr7txu> right opened the folder and dont delete anything in the folder saves no ?
#2415 [17:12] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu delete everything execpt for the saves folder
#2416 [17:12] <mib_gr7txu> found this minecraft . jar file thing someone mentioned earlyer ?
#2417 [17:13] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu forget that for now
#2418 [17:14] <mib_gr7txu> right deleted everyfolder in .mincraft execpt the saves file shall i delete them in the recycle bin aswell ?
#2419 [17:14] <lemon-rev> if you want its up to you
#2420 [17:14] <lemon-rev> now try and launch minecraft again
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#2422 [17:15] <mib_gr7txu> :O retryed it and its acc download packs and this and that (yn)
#2423 [17:16] <mib_gr7txu> nope didnt work :L
#2424 [17:16] <lemon-rev> ??> mib_gr7txu win/dxdiag
#2425 [17:16] <VoxelHead> mib_gr7txu: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2426 [17:16] <VoxelHead> mib_gr7txu: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2427 [17:20] <mib_gr7txu> http://pastebin.com/Up7ZEYNq
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#2429 [17:22] <mib_gr7txu> voxelhead ........... lemon-rev what now pastes the link
#2430 [17:22] <lemon-rev> mib_gr7txu i dont hold much help for you but theres a 2010 version of your drivers
#2431 [17:23] <lemon-rev> http://sis-mirage-graphics.drivers.informer.com/ < please click on that, and directly on the far right you will see download the .32x version of the latest version
#2432 [17:23] <lemon-rev> good luck
#2433 [17:24] <mib_gr7txu> is that sumut i gotta downlaod yeaa if so ima ask ma dad cuz if this fucks the computer im skwrewed ... what will it do ?
#2434 [17:24] * AuBot kicked mib_gr7txu from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_gr7txu :Please keep it civil.)
#2435 [17:24] <lemon-rev> http://sis-mirage-graphics.drivers.informer.com/download/5506
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#2437 [17:25] <mib_ct4278> got kicked sorry bot
#2438 [17:25] <lemon-rev> http://sis-mirage-graphics.drivers.informer.com/download/5506
#2439 [17:25] <mib_ct4278> right what did uu say lemon
#2440 [17:25] <D_Link> hello guys
#2441 [17:26] <D_Link> i have an issue with my server
#2442 [17:26] <lemon-rev> mib_ct427 if thats you from before then follow the link i just gave
#2443 [17:27] <mib_ct4278> yeaa got a new name :L again and okay youll have to send the one to update drivers aswell or isit it it
#2444 [17:27] <D_Link> when somebody logs in the world seems not generated" and after 5 seconds you enter the void
#2445 [17:27] <D_Link> after that this message appears internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception : Read timed out
#2446 [17:27] <lemon-rev> mib_ct4278 just click the link download and install
#2447 [17:27] <mib_ct4278> okay will it mess my compuetr at all
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#2451 [17:29] <hejeff> is there someone how can help me?
#2452 [17:29] <hejeff> *who
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#2454 [17:29] <mib_ct4278> what do i downlaod the thing in the yellow bar in the middle of the screen yeaa ?
#2455 [17:30] <lemon-rev> that should allow you to downlod the file
#2456 [17:30] <D_Link> can anyone help me ? :/
#2457 [17:30] <lemon-rev> and then run it, it should update your video drivers
#2458 [17:30] <mib_ct4278> okaa brb
#2459 [17:33] <mib_ct4278> will this mess my computer yes or no lemon just needa know
#2460 [17:33] <lemon-rev> it wont
#2461 [17:33] <mib_ct4278> what will it do dad wants to know
#2462 [17:33] <lemon-rev> it should update your video drvers
#2463 [17:33] <lemon-rev> thats what it should do
#2464 [17:35] <mib_ct4278> okay may not be relevant but i can play emulator games like oot and mario cart and that so isit my graphics card ?
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#2467 [17:35] <lemon-rev> mib_ct untill you update it, i cant say it maybe
#2468 [17:35] <lemon-rev> mib_ct4278 but if you wish to play emulator games it depends on which ones and which emulator you try and run it from
#2469 [17:36] <mib_ct4278> i use project 64
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#2471 [17:36] <lemon-rev> yea its a good program to use
#2472 [17:37] <mib_8k8034> hey Ive try to use a mod but cant inset into th folder
#2473 [17:37] <mib_8k8034> please take a look
#2474 [17:37] <mib_8k8034> Delete META -INF folder
#2475 [17:37] <mib_ct4278> so not ma graphics card then
#2476 [17:37] <mib_8k8034> http ://getsatisfaction . com/mojang/topics/minecraft_not_letting_me_add_files_into_minecraft_jar
#2477 [17:37] <mib_8k8034> Ofc without the spaces
#2478 [17:37] <lemon-rev> mib_ct4278 i dont know dude, it could be but updateing video drivers if the main concern here atm
#2479 [17:37] <mib_8k8034> http : // getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_not_letting_me_add_files_into_minecraft_jar
#2480 [17:38] <mib_8k8034> Shows my problem
#2481 [17:38] <mib_ct4278> downlaoded the driver update retry mc ?
#2482 [17:38] <lemon-rev> mib_8k8034 whats the plugin your useing bukkit ?
#2483 [17:39] <mib_8k8034> only youtube
#2484 [17:39] <mib_8k8034> and this
#2485 [17:39] <mib_8k8034> atm
#2486 [17:39] <lemon-rev> mib_8k8034 have you tryed to install a plugin / ie mod ?
#2487 [17:39] <mib_8k8034> Dono what you mean by that :S
#2488 [17:39] <mib_ct4278> still didnt work :L
#2489 [17:40] <mib_8k8034> you know what
#2490 [17:40] <lemon-rev> mib_8k8034 dude if you have installed a mod from an out side source we dont deal with it, but you can either force update or delete the / bin folder
#2491 [17:40] <lemon-rev> mib_ct4278 so the dirvers are up to date and the game still black screens ?
#2492 [17:40] <mib_8k8034> ive restart my pc :)
#2493 [17:41] <mib_ct4278> yep :L
#2494 [17:41] <lemon-rev> mib_ct4278 get a new video card :(, sorry cant help, and you maybe should beable to keep playing n64 games
#2495 [17:42] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: what OS are you on?
#2496 [17:42] <mib_ct4278> try emulator again yea ?
#2497 [17:42] <mib_ct4278> gecko not a clue :s
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#2499 [17:43] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: Windows, Mac, linux of some sort...
#2500 [17:43] <lemon-rev> mib_ct4278 im not going to help you with your emulator things but good luck now yea
#2501 [17:43] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> heyyyy
#2502 [17:43] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> I'm trying to download but it stops working
#2503 [17:44] <mib_ct4278> emulators still work so thats okay
#2504 [17:44] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: I may have some things for us to try, but I need to figure out what operating system you are running.
#2505 [17:44] <mib_ct4278> ohh sorry gecko dunno how do i get it up ?
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#2507 [17:45] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: options would be Windows, MacOS, possibly Linux.
#2508 [17:45] <mariettagecko> Until you can give me one of those, I can't really help much.
#2509 [17:45] <mib_ct4278> im using windows
#2510 [17:45] <mib_ct4278> dunno if its 200 or xp :s
#2511 [17:45] <mib_ct4278> *2000
#2512 [17:46] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: No problem. Click Start, put your mouse on Computer, right click, and choose Properties
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#2514 [17:47] <mariettagecko> It should tell you which version of windows you are running in there.
#2515 [17:47] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> hello?
#2516 [17:47] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> :|
#2517 [17:48] <plimpton> ever since 1.8 got released I can't log in to download the patch, where do I go to help debug the issue? I can log into minecraft.net's page
#2518 [17:48] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> I'm having problems with my game, it says it's done loading but the screen just stops at this and doesn't do anything http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n109/Kittyismaster/minecrafthalp.png
#2519 [17:48] <mib_ct4278> xp pro version 2002 service pack 3
#2520 [17:48] <lemon-rev> Seargent_Buttermuffins try updateing java
#2521 [17:49] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> ok
#2522 [17:49] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: excellent. Ok, are you trying to run the exe, or are you running the java jar file?
#2523 [17:49] <mib_ct4278> exe
#2524 [17:49] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: and you have Sun Java loaded on your computer?
#2525 [17:50] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: You should see a coffee cup in the system tray in the lower right corner of the screen.
#2526 [17:50] <mib_ct4278> updated java yes
#2527 [17:50] <D_Link> i have a server issue :/
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#2529 [17:50] <mib_ct4278> yupp carry on ignore that first thing
#2530 [17:50] <lemon-rev> D_Link are you the server or someone else
#2531 [17:50] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: Ok, go to the website and download the .jar file instead of the exe. I'll wait.
#2532 [17:51] <D_Link> its mine
#2533 [17:51] <D_Link> i run the server through this pc
#2534 [17:51] <lemon-rev> d_link so whats the trouble
#2535 [17:51] <D_Link> when someone logs in
#2536 [17:51] <D_Link> the world seems not generated
#2537 [17:51] <D_Link> after some seconds you are in the void
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#2539 [17:51] <D_Link> and then
#2540 [17:51] <D_Link> internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception : Read timed out
#2541 [17:52] <lemon-rev> d_link that is at first how long do they stick around before they are either killed or read timed out ?
#2542 [17:52] <mib_ct4278> downlaoded
#2543 [17:52] <D_Link> ehm they dont
#2544 [17:52] <D_Link> they start falling
#2545 [17:52] <lemon-rev> d_link what about you ie in your own server does it work >?
#2546 [17:52] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: Ok, now, make note of where the file was downloaded to.
#2547 [17:52] <lemon-rev> d_link thats normal
#2548 [17:52] <D_Link> that happends with my account too
#2549 [17:53] <mib_ct4278> yeaa my games file
#2550 [17:53] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: After that, I want you to open a command prompt. DO you know how to do that?
#2551 [17:53] <D_Link> ie?
#2552 [17:53] <lemon-rev> d_link can you join your own server and see everything ?
#2553 [17:53] <mib_ct4278> nope :L ima noob
#2554 [17:53] <D_Link> when i join i start falling
#2555 [17:53] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: Ok, click start, choose Run.
#2556 [17:54] <mib_ct4278> yea
#2557 [17:54] <D_Link> falling and falling
#2558 [17:54] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: type cmd, then hit enter.
#2559 [17:54] <D_Link> then void and the error message
#2560 [17:54] <lemon-rev> d_link that is you joining your own, server / is your server running atm ?
#2561 [17:54] <mib_ct4278> yeaa like a black screen white text
#2562 [17:54] <mariettagecko> Excellent.
#2563 [17:55] <mib_ct4278> next
#2564 [17:55] <D_Link> atm ?
#2565 [17:55] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: what directory are you in now?
#2566 [17:55] <lemon-rev> d_link thats what i asked
#2567 [17:55] <mib_ct4278> nothing just left it open dunno what a do now
#2568 [17:55] <D_Link> i mean whgat do you mean by saying atm?
#2569 [17:55] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: it should show you in the prompt
#2570 [17:55] <lemon-rev> d_link atm = at the moment
#2571 [17:55] <mariettagecko> It should say something like c:\my documents>
#2572 [17:55] <plimpton> hurray! just downloaded the client again works
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#2574 [17:56] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> It didn't work
#2575 [17:56] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> _;
#2576 [17:56] <D_Link> no it is not
#2577 [17:56] <D_Link> it is not running at this very moment
#2578 [17:56] <lemon-rev> d_link, can you run the server and then type in here !check please
#2579 [17:56] <mib_ct4278> nope just says microdoft xp nfjkfsfhgf blaah blaah blaah stuff with a white flashing _ thing
#2580 [17:57] <D_Link> ok w8 a minute
#2581 [17:57] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> ;_:
#2582 [17:57] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: that blah blah blah stuff is important. basically, I need everything on the line where the _ is blinking.
#2583 [17:57] <mib_ct4278> says documents and settings
#2584 [17:57] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> still not working, even after I downloaded the latest java
#2585 [17:58] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: Excellent. Now, where is your games directory? what is the full directory that's in?
#2586 [17:58] <Kaito> can you not use bone meal on light grey wool to dye it white?
#2587 [17:58] <D_Link> !check
#2588 [17:58] <mib_ct4278> what uu mean by that ?
#2589 [17:58] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: I'm talking about the one that you put the minecraft jar file into
#2590 [17:58] <lemon-rev> d_link then it sould be fine, autobot says so it self lol
#2591 [17:59] <D_Link> let me try it
#2592 [17:59] <Kaito> mib_ct4278, are you referring to me?
#2593 [17:59] <mib_ct4278> ohh my documents aj@s file games its in there
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#2595 [17:59] <mib_ct4278> *'
#2596 [17:59] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> ..hello?
#2597 [18:00] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> what do I do?
#2598 [18:00] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: hmmm...
#2599 [18:00] <D_Link> same thing happening
#2600 [18:00] <D_Link> :/
#2601 [18:00] <mariettagecko> mib_ct4278: I'm going to PM you, if that's ok?
#2602 [18:00] * Seargent_Buttermuffins is ignored...
#2602 [18:00] <mib_ct4278> yeaa
#2603 [18:00] <D_Link> internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception : Read timed out
#2604 [18:01] <lemon-rev> d_link whats your ip
#2605 [18:01] <D_Link> w8
#2606 [18:01] * Seargent_Buttermuffins pokes D_Link
#2606 [18:01] <D_Link> 46.103.143.97
#2607 [18:02] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> ...
#2608 [18:02] <lemon-rev> lol
#2609 [18:02] <mariettagecko> ??> Seargent_Buttermuffins patience
#2610 [18:02] <VoxelHead> Seargent_Buttermuffins: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#2611 [18:02] <VoxelHead> Seargent_Buttermuffins: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#2612 [18:02] <lemon-rev> oh , doh, im running 1.9 give me a tick
#2613 [18:02] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> okayy
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#2616 [18:03] <D_Link> a tick ? :P
#2617 [18:03] <LoganRoger> i need help
#2618 [18:03] <mariettagecko> ??> LoganRoger ask
#2619 [18:03] <VoxelHead> LoganRoger: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2620 [18:03] <VoxelHead> LoganRoger: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2621 [18:03] <lemon-rev> my lang means wait a min
#2622 [18:04] <lemon-rev> hahahhahahah
#2623 [18:04] <lemon-rev> d_link i dont know wtf your doing wrong but im on your server and you start in a swamp
#2624 [18:04] <lemon-rev> lol
#2625 [18:04] <D_Link> ah like the tick of a clock
#2626 [18:04] <D_Link> i know
#2627 [18:04] <LoganRoger> when i try to run minecraft it loads the game then exits
#2628 [18:04] <D_Link> i ll try to log in
#2629 [18:05] <dr_bibble> I have just bought minecraft and every time I try to load a new world the screen just goes black
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#2631 [18:06] <lemon-rev> d_link i think your internet cant handle minecraft lol
#2632 [18:06] <D_Link> crashed aain
#2633 [18:06] <D_Link> seems strange
#2634 [18:06] <D_Link> we could play on this server unil yesterday night
#2635 [18:06] <D_Link> and everything was just fine
#2636 [18:07] <lemon-rev> d_link i cant jump in there do stuff but it just seams your internet is either one having trouble or two just cant handle it
#2637 [18:07] <D_Link> the server has a memry use of 193 right now
#2638 [18:08] <lemon-rev> d_link is that what minecraft is saying ?
#2639 [18:08] <D_Link> miecraft server
#2640 [18:08] <lemon-rev> hm,
#2641 [18:08] <D_Link> 195 mb memoryuse
#2642 [18:09] <lemon-rev> d_link how much ram you got on that computer
#2643 [18:09] <D_Link> 33% free
#2644 [18:09] <D_Link> 6 gb with 3.25 usuable
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#2646 [18:10] <lemon-rev> d_link, i dont know whats up but its not working for yuo, im out of things to give you a test, i know the game works something just isnt copeing
#2647 [18:10] <D_Link> Mitsos1512 lost connection: disconnect.endOfStream
#2648 [18:11] <lemon-rev> d_link check with your isp your intenet connection might be having troubles today
#2649 [18:11] <D_Link> ok i ll check it
#2650 [18:12] <D_Link> i ll lo in here again tomorrow cause my brain is going to crash (like minecraft lol)
#2651 [18:12] <lemon-rev> lol d_link if you need more help
#2652 [18:12] <D_Link> ill check the server tomorrow an if the problem insists ill ask here agan
#2653 [18:13] <mariettagecko> Hey, GreyVulpine, you around?
#2654 [18:13] <lemon-rev> lol, i got brown patch of dirt i mean grass this is fing wired lol
#2655 [18:13] <D_Link> fing wired?
#2656 [18:14] <D_Link> is there lag?
#2657 [18:14] <lemon-rev> lol, my word trying to cut out the rest f u c k ing < but no no not
#2658 [18:14] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> man, I'm just gonna take a nap, maybe there will be less traffic later
#2659 [18:15] <D_Link> what does it mean by the message end of stre?
#2660 [18:15] <D_Link> stream*
#2661 [18:15] <lemon-rev> it means your internet connection has been lost basicly
#2662 [18:16] <D_Link> thank you i ll join tommorow for further help
#2663 [18:17] <mariettagecko> Seargent_Buttermuffins: Ok, what's the problem you are having, please?
#2664 [18:21] <mariettagecko> Alrightythen.
#2665 [18:21] <mariettagecko> Who is next?
#2666 [18:22] <lemon-rev> lol 1.9 is funny
#2667 [18:23] <lemon-rev> 1.9 you jump, and you get exp lol
#2668 [18:24] <eggy> test code
#2669 [18:24] <lemon-rev> yes
#2670 [18:25] <Ariakas> #minecrafthelp
#2671 [18:25] <Ariakas> woot
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#2677 [18:32] <sebbeviking1> hello. when i try to instal minecraft its not working because its wrong connection or something pls help
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#2679 [18:32] <mariettagecko> sebbeviking1: I don't think I understand. What do you mean wrong connection or something?
#2680 [18:32] <sebbeviking1> have try it all start as admin change to win 7 mode and all
#2681 [18:33] <mariettagecko> sebbeviking1: Is there any particular error message when you try to start it?
#2682 [18:33] <sebbeviking1> yes
#2683 [18:33] <sebbeviking1> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect</center></font></body></html>
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#2685 [18:34] <sebbeviking1> can't connect to minecraft.net
#2686 [18:34] <sebbeviking1> when it try to install
#2687 [18:34] <instipod> Can anyone help me, i get errors on startup: http://pastebin.com/cDqk4Qu0
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#2689 [18:35] <TheNexusElement> [#10344] You do not have permission to view this topic.
#2690 [18:35] <TheNexusElement> Any help?
#2691 [18:39] <mariettagecko> Hmmm... sebbeviking1, that seems to indicate that you can't connect to minecraft.net.
#2692 [18:39] <mariettagecko> if you open your browser, can you get to that page?
#2693 [18:40] <mariettagecko> instipod: Looks like you need to reinstall your java.
#2694 [18:40] <TheNexusElement> [#10344] You do not have permission to view this topic.
#2695 [18:40] <TheNexusElement> any help?
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#2697 [18:41] <mariettagecko> right.
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#2699 [18:43] <instipod> mariettagecko: Reinstalled, no luck.
#2700 [18:44] <almostroot> instipod: Unless you installed the JDK, the path value to run JAva form the command link isn;t installed. Either create the path manually, or install the JDK for version 6 update 27.
#2701 [18:44] <mariettagecko> instipod: The issue there is that javaw (the web plugin for the browser) can't be found.
#2702 [18:44] <instipod> I'm on linux.
#2703 [18:45] <mariettagecko> What linux?
#2704 [18:45] <almostroot> instipod: Then Oracle Java isn;t properly installed. What distro are you using?
#2705 [18:45] <instipod> Ubuntu 9.10 with Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
#2706 [18:45] <almostroot> instipod: That is an outdated version.
#2707 [18:45] <almostroot> ??> instipod linux/ubuntu/sun-java
#2708 [18:45] <mariettagecko> instipod: do you have openjava or sun java installed?
#2709 [18:45] <VoxelHead> instipod: (linux/ubuntu/sun-java) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-jre-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
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#2713 [18:46] <almostroot> instipod: You really need to update to a newer version of Ubuntu. Support for 9.10 was dropped earlier this year.
#2714 [18:47] <mariettagecko> Yeah, I recommend updating to 10.04LTS
#2715 [18:47] <mib_ih1njh> Yeah Ive been playing the classic version on the web browser and as Im playing my comp just shuts down.
#2716 [18:47] <instipod> almostroot: I know. I do not like the changes in 10 and 11
#2717 [18:47] <mib_ih1njh> what?
#2718 [18:48] <almostroot> instipod: The changes between 9.10 and 10.4 are minimal.
#2719 [18:48] <instipod> VoxelHead: mariettagecko: results of updating java: http://pastebin.com/qGDEVT43
#2720 [18:48] <mib_ih1njh> an anyone help me with my issue?
#2721 [18:48] <almostroot> instipod: Run java -version
#2722 [18:48] <instipod> almostroot: root@instipodsystem:~/Downloads# java -version java version "1.6.0_24" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 19.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing) root@instipodsystem:~/Downloads#
#2723 [18:48] <mib_ih1njh> I am running it
#2724 [18:48] <almostroot> instipod: Follow the instructions that I provided above.
#2725 [18:48] <almostroot> ??> instipod linux/ubuntu/sun-java
#2726 [18:48] <VoxelHead> instipod: (linux/ubuntu/sun-java) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-jre-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
#2727 [18:49] <almostroot> instipod: Use MEthod 2
#2728 [18:49] <mib_ih1njh> Whats method 2
#2729 [18:49] <almostroot> ??> mib_ih1njh only/you
#2730 [18:49] <VoxelHead> mib_ih1njh: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#2731 [18:49] <VoxelHead> mib_ih1njh: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#2732 [18:49] <instipod> almostroot: I did. Same result.
#2733 [18:50] <mib_ih1njh> Okay I idnt see anyone else talking but u 2 so I'll wait until someone is able to help me.
#2734 [18:50] <almostroot> instipod: Run this, then tell us via pastebin what the options are: sudo alternatives --config java
#2735 [18:51] <mariettagecko> mib_ih1njh: are you playing on a laptop or a desktop?
#2736 [18:51] <mib_ih1njh> Laptop
#2737 [18:52] <instipod> almostroot: http://pastebin.com/hRWr723N
#2738 [18:52] <Abadoss> Do you take server related questions too?
#2739 [18:52] <mariettagecko> mib_ih1njh: Right, although I know this is a silly question, is the laptop plugged in?
#2740 [18:52] <mib_ih1njh> Yes.
#2741 [18:52] <mariettagecko> Abadoss: to a certain extent, yes
#2742 [18:52] <almostroot> instipod: Google for how to install the latest version. I can;t help with an outdated, unsupported version.
#2743 [18:52] <mariettagecko> mib_ih1njh: ok, what is it sitting on?
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#2745 [18:53] <mib_ih1njh> One of those laptop colling things
#2746 [18:53] <Abadoss> I have a server on Multiplay and we just upgraded to Bukkit's RB for 1.8.1. Now, our ping is off the chart and times out for everyone, not just me, so I know it's not a client issue. We unloaded practically every plugin possible. We even created a new profile and still no luck.
#2747 [18:54] <Abadoss> Any recommendations?
#2748 [18:54] <mariettagecko> mib_ih1njh: hmmm... It sounds an awful lot like the laptop is getting too warm and shutting itself off for safety.
#2749 [18:54] <almostroot> Abadoss: We don't support bukkit here. Try #bukkit for help.
#2750 [18:54] <Abadoss> Oh.
#2751 [18:54] <Abadoss> Okay.
#2752 [18:54] <mib_ih1njh> But why does it say I have a trojan, I play world of warcraft all the time and it never gets to hot and shuts down,
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#2754 [18:55] <mib_ih1njh> Everytime I play it syas I have a trojan
#2755 [18:55] <mariettagecko> mib_ih1njh: I'm sorry, try that again? it says you have a trojan?
#2756 [18:55] <mariettagecko> mib_ih1njh: from where did you download the game?
#2757 [18:56] <mib_ih1njh> I have not downloaded it, Im playing the Classic on the web browser
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#2759 [18:56] <mib_ih1njh> www.minecraft.net and the free classic version
#2760 [18:56] <mib_ih1njh> is what ive been playing until it shut me dsown and said I ahve a trojan
#2761 [18:57] <mariettagecko> ??> mib_ih1njh virus
#2762 [18:57] <mariettagecko> ??> mib_ih1njh virus
#2763 [18:57] <VoxelHead> mib_ih1njh: (virus) There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.
#2764 [18:57] <VoxelHead> mib_ih1njh: (virus) For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
#2765 [18:58] <mib_ih1njh> Okay thanks Voxel and Mriettagecko
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#2767 [18:58] <mib_ih1njh> Mariettagecko*
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#2770 [18:59] <Damein> could you help us with a server
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#2772 [18:59] <mariettagecko> ??> Damein smp/servers
#2773 [18:59] <VoxelHead> Damein: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2774 [19:00] <VoxelHead> Damein: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2775 [19:00] * guest-0-73663 [guest-0-73663@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2776 [19:00] <guest-0-73663> anyone here?
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#2779 [19:02] <Damein> everytime my friend trys to join my server it says cant reach server is there anything to fix this
#2780 [19:02] <mib_mlqrbk> hi
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#2784 [19:06] <mariettagecko> Damein: what is the address from the outside?
#2785 [19:07] <Damein> address? his local ip?
#2786 [19:07] <mariettagecko> yours.
#2787 [19:07] <Damein> or regular ip?
#2788 [19:07] <mariettagecko> that is, the address to which he's trying to connect
#2789 [19:07] <Damein> 99.239.134.192
#2790 [19:07] <mariettagecko> !check 99.239.134.192
#2791 [19:08] <Damein> and i connect to 127.0.0.1 to get onto my server with portforwarding
#2792 [19:08] <mariettagecko> Looks like the ports on your firewall aren't open right
#2793 [19:08] <xales> Damein: You need to port forward.
#2794 [19:08] <Damein> and how can i change that would i be able to use teamviewer to let you change that?
#2795 [19:08] <Damein> i already did some guy used teamviewer to do it
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#2797 [19:09] <Damein> hold on ill brb gotta go eat
#2798 [19:09] <Damein> sry
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#2800 [19:11] <lalalalalalaa> # i want to know how to set up classic server
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#2802 [19:12] <xales> # I want to know how to dumb
#2803 [19:14] <Richilieu> Could I ask for some help with something? Minecraft seems to keep running out of memory after just a few minutes of play. I'm using the default everything, (I just downloaded it,) so it's not some sort of error caused by a mod.
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#2805 [19:18] <xales> Richilieu: How much RAM does your computer have?
#2806 [19:19] <mib_35soae> i would like help with the mincraft singleplayer
#2807 [19:19] <Richilieu> 8 GB
#2808 [19:19] <Richilieu> It shouldn't be a problem.
#2809 [19:19] <mariettagecko> mib_35soae: what sort of problem have you got there?
#2810 [19:19] <xales> Richilieu: Install any Java or Windows updates that may be available, and if that doesn't work, there are instructions on the forum with how to force Minecraft to use more memory
#2811 [19:19] <mib_35soae> i run the game but then the game crashes
#2812 [19:21] <mib_35soae> can u give me a link to the updates if possible i didnt download them?
#2813 [19:21] <Richilieu> Alright, thanks.
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#2815 [19:22] <sockmister> My minecraft has a out of memory error i have tryed reinstalling and updateing java and changing java 2 1 gig btw i have 8 gig ram and i7 with GeForce 560m
#2816 [19:22] <mib_35soae> ok.........
#2817 [19:22] <sockmister> please help
#2818 [19:22] <xales> sockmister: Use more than 1 GB, then
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#2820 [19:23] <loganroger> can someone help me?
#2821 [19:23] <sockmister> how much do u suggest
#2822 [19:23] <sockmister> does java 64 bit help
#2823 [19:24] <mib_35soae> wow...........
#2824 [19:24] <mib_35soae> im desperi b the game a week o i need help!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2825 [19:25] <mib_35soae> i need help i bought the game a week ago
#2826 [19:25] <loganroger> Can soomeone help me because when i try to run the game it says that it is loading and then goes to a white screen
#2827 [19:25] <mib_35soae> and it still crashes
#2828 [19:26] <mib_35soae> can u help me first i was here first and been waitig aweek for help
#2829 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> loganroger win/reinst
#2830 [19:26] <VoxelHead> loganroger: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2831 [19:26] <VoxelHead> loganroger: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2833 [19:27] <mib_35soae> ugh
#2834 [19:28] <mib_35soae> im out no service -_-
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#2836 [19:29] <loganroger> k thanx
#2837 [19:31] <loganroger> it still goes to a white screen!!!
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#2840 [19:32] <mib_teshvg> help mincraft wont start
#2841 [19:32] <mib_teshvg> im on singkeplayer loading map bannnng crashes help im desperate
#2842 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_teshvg win/reinst
#2843 [19:34] <VoxelHead> mib_teshvg: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2844 [19:34] <VoxelHead> mib_teshvg: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2845 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> loganroger win/profile
#2846 [19:34] <VoxelHead> loganroger: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2847 [19:34] <VoxelHead> loganroger: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#2849 [19:35] <mib_teshvg> i tried already that it doesnt work
#2850 [19:35] <mib_teshvg> ill try that thanx voxel
#2851 [19:35] <mudpit> i have a probem wit starting me minecraft game it just goes too the done loading bar then freezes i need help someone plz
#2852 [19:36] <mudpit> anyone plz help me
#2853 [19:37] <mudpit> come on people plz i really need help
#2854 [19:38] <mudpit> fine u guys be that way
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#2856 [19:41] <mib_yppwaz> mincraft crashes after loading map plz help
#2857 [19:41] <mib_yppwaz> help??????
#2858 [19:42] <mib_yppwaz> :( HHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
#2859 [19:43] <mib_yppwaz> :( :( :( :(
#2860 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> ?? patience
#2861 [19:44] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#2862 [19:44] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#2863 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_yppwaz error
#2864 [19:44] <VoxelHead> mib_yppwaz: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#2865 [19:44] <VoxelHead> mib_yppwaz: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#2866 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> or just leave. That's fine too.
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#2869 [19:44] <quaddle> help
#2870 [19:45] * DopeGhoti throws quaddle a flotation device
#2870 [19:45] <quaddle> ????
#2871 [19:45] <quaddle> mincraft crshes after loading
#2872 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> you can use that to float in the event of a water landing, or tsunami
#2873 [19:45] <quaddle> ok.......
#2874 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> Well, quaddle, like I said before you left 45 seconds ago
#2875 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> ?? error
#2876 [19:46] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#2877 [19:46] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#2878 [19:46] <Damein> !check 99.239.134.192
#2879 [19:46] <Damein> dang
#2880 [19:46] <quaddle> it pops a fast crsh reort ut disaesast
#2881 [19:46] <Damein> so i need to portforawrd?
#2882 [19:46] <Damein> my server
#2883 [19:47] <quaddle> help plz been waiting a week for help :(
#2884 [19:47] <Damein> quaddle what do you need help with?
#2885 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> other than English
#2886 [19:48] <quaddle> i am loading the singleplayer map and the game crashes
#2887 [19:48] <Damein> lol
#2888 [19:48] <Damein> whats your ram?
#2889 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> what exact error or other message do you get when it crashes?
#2890 [19:48] <quaddle> carp 1
#2891 [19:48] <Damein> carp 1?
#2892 [19:48] <quaddle> 1 ram
#2893 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> you sure you're not playing Dwarf Fortress?
#2894 [19:49] <Damein> 1gb ram
#2895 [19:49] <quaddle> yes
#2896 [19:49] <Damein> thats low you may need better ram
#2897 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> For the third time: What exact error or other message do you get when it crashes?
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#2899 [19:49] <quaddle> i can read it i pops away
#2900 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> good, then go and read it and tell us what it says.
#2901 [19:50] <quaddle> man my english is terrrible
#2902 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> I notices.
#2903 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> er, noticed.
#2904 [19:50] <Damein> yes it is he means he cant
#2905 [19:50] <quaddle> yes thanx
#2906 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> ??> quaddle win/profile
#2907 [19:50] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2908 [19:50] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2909 [19:50] <quaddle> tried that already
#2910 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> You already tried creating a new Windows user account?
#2911 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> Interesting.
#2912 [19:52] <Damein> dope ghoti can i get you to use team viewer and portforward my server so it can work thenytangel did it once but after a day it didnt work
#2913 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> What version of Java are you using?
#2914 [19:52] <Damein> my server is this
#2915 [19:52] <quaddle> no useaccount
#2916 [19:52] <quaddle> the latest
#2917 [19:52] <Damein> !check 99.239.134.192
#2918 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> when you say 'the latest', what version do you mean?
#2919 [19:52] <quaddle> 64 bit i think
#2920 [19:53] <Damein> java 6?
#2921 [19:53] <quaddle> yes'
#2922 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> Damein: probably
#2923 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> Damein: give me a minute or seven though
#2924 [19:53] <Damein> ok well if you could thatd be greatly appreciated
#2925 [19:53] <quaddle> me??
#2926 [19:53] <Damein> i got till 10pm ept
#2927 [19:54] <quaddle> can someone give a link to a java download that might help me
#2928 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> ??> quaddle getjava
#2929 [19:55] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2930 [19:55] <quaddle> thanx
#2931 [19:55] <Damein> ??> quaddle getjava
#2932 [19:55] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2933 [19:55] <Damein> sorry :(
#2934 [19:55] <Damein> just noticed you did it
#2935 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> np
#2936 [19:56] <quaddle> i have the latest java
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#2938 [19:56] <quaddle> would windows 7 help?
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#2940 [19:56] <zinin11> this sucks
#2941 [19:56] <Damein> ?? what do you mean windows 7
#2942 [19:57] <zinin11> its not helpful
#2943 [19:57] <Damein> windows/mac/linux?
#2944 [19:57] <quaddle> the download i have XP
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#2946 [19:57] <Damein> what is your computer type?
#2947 [19:57] <quaddle> i think HP
#2948 [19:57] <hatman> How do I make my minecraft 1.9 I downloaded the file but am not sure what to do with it? :P
#2949 [19:58] <Damein> dopeghoti you good with hp bc i dont know it
#2950 [19:58] <Guest69677> ji9
#2951 [19:58] <Damein> hatman read the top we dont support minecraft 1.9 as it is not out yet
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#2953 [19:58] <Damein> officialy it isnt anyways
#2954 [19:58] <quaddle> :(
#2955 [19:59] <Guest69677> quack
#2956 [19:59] <quaddle> ?????
#2957 [19:59] <hatman> All I need to know is how to update my minecraft then
#2958 [19:59] <quaddle> wow thats easy
#2959 [19:59] <Damein> force update
#2960 [19:59] <hatman> Nope
#2961 [20:00] <quaddle> uuuuuuuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhh
#2962 [20:00] <Damein> quaddle i cant help with hp sorry
#2963 [20:00] <hatman> Well where can I talk to someone about making my minecraft 1.9 -_- because thats all I need haha
#2964 [20:00] <quaddle> kk
#2965 [20:00] <Guest69677> quack
#2966 [20:00] <Damein> dopeghoti can you help quaddle
#2967 [20:00] <quaddle> 1.9 anit out
#2968 [20:00] <Damein> hatman 1.9 isnt out -_-
#2969 [20:01] <Damein> 1.8 is out
#2970 [20:01] <Damein> pancakes!
#2971 [20:01] <quaddle> yes
#2972 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 4
#2973 [20:01] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 4 = Minecraft 1.9-pre is released. We will not support it until its stable release ] ... set by [ GreyVulpine | Thu Sep 22 08:29:29 MST 2011 ]
#2974 [20:01] <hatman> but why is there a download saying 1.9 on twitter then ,.. ffs
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#2976 [20:01] * DopeGhoti points up
#2976 [20:01] <quaddle> thats a lie then
#2977 [20:01] <hatman> from jeb
#2978 [20:01] <Damein> thats either a lie or a mod
#2979 [20:01] <Damein> dopeghoti can you portforward?
#2980 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> I can
#2981 [20:02] <quaddle> peace out mincraft rules my PC sucks bye
#2982 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> give me a little time; I have some work to do first, being at work and all (:
#2983 [20:02] <Damein> kk do you want my teamviewer ip and password
#2984 [20:02] <Damein> kk sorry dopeghoti
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#2987 [20:03] <hatman> http://twitter.com/#!/jeb_
#2988 [20:03] <bob> quack
#2989 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> once again
#2990 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 4
#2991 [20:03] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 4 = Minecraft 1.9-pre is released. We will not support it until its stable release ] ... set by [ GreyVulpine | Thu Sep 22 08:29:29 MST 2011 ]
#2992 [20:03] <Damein> hatman thats not a link for a mod either thats a link for questions about 1.9
#2993 [20:04] <Guest50922> i have 1.9 downloaded how do i download 1.10
#2994 [20:04] <Damein> *facepalm*
#2995 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> Guest50922: take a six week nap.
#2996 [20:05] <Guest50922> quack
#2997 [20:05] <Damein> ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) hatman why dont you understand?!?!?!
#2998 [20:05] <Guest50922> meow
#2999 [20:05] <hatman> Understand what?
#3000 [20:05] <Damein> hatman thats not a link for a mod either thats a link for questions about 1.9
#3001 [20:05] <Guest50922> ruff
#3002 [20:05] <Guest50922> i want 1.10
#3003 [20:06] <Guest50922> i have 1.9
#3004 [20:06] <Damein> that link that you posted bout twitter is a faq place for 1.9
#3005 [20:06] <Damein> brent gtfo
#3006 [20:06] <Guest50922> pffff twitter
#3007 [20:06] <hatman> Minecraft Beta 1.9 prerelease can be found here, http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre/minecraft.jar (server jar also available) .. scroll down
#3008 [20:06] <hatman> thats what i was pointed to
#3009 [20:06] <Damein> lol thats fake or a mod
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#3011 [20:07] <hatman> A fake from the dev?
#3012 [20:07] <Guest50922> wiener
#3013 [20:07] <Damein> !topic info 4
#3014 [20:07] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 4 = Minecraft 1.9-pre is released. We will not support it until its stable release ] ... set by [ GreyVulpine | Thu Sep 22 08:29:29 MST 2011 ]
#3015 [20:07] <Guest50922> nipples
#3016 [20:07] <mortisha> What are the system Requirements for MineCraft 1.8??
#3017 [20:07] <Guest50922> caunt
#3018 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> ?? requirements/lessrude
#3019 [20:07] <VoxelHead> requirements/lessrude: 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#3020 [20:07] <VoxelHead> requirements/lessrude: A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
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#3022 [20:08] <Damein> its a mod, search up on youtube how to put mods in your minecraft folder or use the readme
#3023 [20:08] <Damein> >
#3024 [20:08] <hatman> I have a great comp and I cant run minecraft 1.8 without lagging every 3 seconds.. My fps keeps matching what ever my chunks are at...
#3025 [20:08] <Damein> your poit?
#3026 [20:08] <Damein> pont?
#3027 [20:09] <mortisha> what about graphics card, whats the min on that?
#3028 [20:09] <hatman> Im pissed because I ran the other minecrafts perfectly and now I cant even play
#3029 [20:09] <Guest50922> ??>dameinwin/reinst
#3030 [20:09] <Damein> >
#3031 [20:09] <Damein> no you want to play 1.9
#3032 [20:10] <Guest50922> ?? >damein win / reisnt
#3033 [20:10] <Guest50922> keyword in my index
#3034 [20:10] <Damein> ??.
#3035 [20:10] <Damein> ??>
#3036 [20:11] <Damein> damein
#3037 [20:11] <hatman> Anyone know whats causing my minecraft to lag ( match the chunks) 2-14fps... even though I have a great comp?
#3038 [20:11] <Damein> i dont maybe someone else can i cant help you with that as im not good with computers
#3039 [20:11] <Damein> ??> damein win/reinst
#3040 [20:11] <VoxelHead> damein: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3041 [20:11] <VoxelHead> damein: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3042 [20:12] <Guest50922> ??> damein win/reisnt
#3043 [20:12] <Guest50922> ??> damein win/reinst
#3044 [20:12] <VoxelHead> damein: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3045 [20:12] <VoxelHead> damein: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3046 [20:12] <Guest50922> ??> damein win/reinst
#3047 [20:12] <VoxelHead> damein: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3048 [20:12] <VoxelHead> damein: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3049 [20:12] <Guest50922> ??> damein win/reinst
#3050 [20:12] <VoxelHead> damein: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3051 [20:12] <VoxelHead> damein: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3052 [20:12] <Damein> your mean brent
#3053 [20:12] <|Kiikun|> Guest50922: stop. its on the screen. doesnt need to be 5 times
#3054 [20:13] <Guest50922> ??> damein win/reinst
#3055 [20:13] <VoxelHead> damein: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3056 [20:13] <VoxelHead> damein: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3057 [20:13] * WugBot kicked Guest50922 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uest50922 :Kicked by |Kiikun|) (BYE!)
#3058 [20:13] <Damein> hes just doing it to bug me
#3059 [20:13] <mortisha> my system will not support 1.8, is there a place I can load 1.7.3 agin to my computer?????
#3060 [20:13] <|Kiikun|> yes. but he's flooding the channel AND abusing the bots :P
#3061 [20:13] <|Kiikun|> ??> mortisha oldversion
#3062 [20:13] <VoxelHead> mortisha: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#3063 [20:13] <Damein> yea i know hell come back later probably
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#3065 [20:14] <Damein> kiikun
#3066 [20:14] <Damein> can i get some help?
#3067 [20:14] <|Kiikun|> Damein: server setup issues?
#3068 [20:14] <|Kiikun|> still? :P
#3069 [20:14] <Damein> yes it was working thenytangel portforwarded it but now it doesnt
#3070 [20:14] <Scott> Damein: highlight an op
#3071 [20:15] <Damein> !check 99.239.134.192
#3072 [20:15] <|Kiikun|> yeah. Scott, Kealper, and even GreyVulpine and Wug all like wielding the banhammer with great vengance :P
#3073 [20:15] <Damein> kk
#3074 [20:15] * |Kiikun| PINGS THEM ALL!!! mwahahahaa
#3074 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> Damein: what is your computer's _internal_ IP address?
#3075 [20:15] <Damein> lol
#3076 [20:15] <Kealper> did someone say ban?
#3077 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> and to what address is your port forwarding?
#3078 [20:15] * Kealper looks around
#3078 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> Do they match?
#3079 [20:16] <Scott> You woke up all the ops.
#3080 [20:16] <|Kiikun|> hi kealp :P
#3081 [20:16] * Kealper waves
#3081 [20:16] <hatman> Is your fps spost to match the chunks ?
#3082 [20:17] <Damein> ummm.... i dont know what you guys are saying all i know is i have a ip of 127.0.0.1 and 99.239.134.192
#3083 [20:17] <|Kiikun|> hatman: generally a chunk is processed for every frame.
#3084 [20:17] <Kealper> hatman: no, the two are completely* unrelated, any matching is pure coincidence
#3085 [20:17] <Damein> how do you make it so it will go like kealper waves?
#3086 [20:17] <Scott> Hmmm. My aunt plays farmville. I'm going to get her to play Bakery Story with me.
#3087 [20:17] <|Kiikun|> :P
#3088 [20:17] <Kealper> and i use that asterisk very heavily
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#3090 [20:18] * |Kiikun| thinks of a sneaky way to get people to play minecraft from farmville.
#3090 [20:18] * Kealper would like to take some time to teach people about typing /me would like to take some time to teach people about typing /me would like to....
#3090 [20:18] <Kealper> i'll stop lol
#3091 [20:18] <hatman> Well they are matching and they wont stop and I cant stop these annoying "lag spikes" every few seconds even if I stay still offline and online! >:
#3092 [20:18] <|Kiikun|> o.o; Kealper dont like /me?
#3093 [20:18] <Kealper> /meception
#3094 [20:18] <|Kiikun|> lol
#3095 [20:18] <Kimax> !check minecraftness.dk
#3096 [20:19] <Kimax> ;)
#3097 [20:19] <Scott> Kealper: You need iOS/Android device.
#3098 [20:19] <Damein> can i get help with portforwarding, i have teamviewer could someone portforward it for me bc i dont understand how to
#3099 [20:19] <Kealper> Scott: whai?
#3100 [20:19] <Scott> I'm tired of having strangers as neighbors xD
#3101 [20:19] <Kimax> Damein depens on what router you have?
#3102 [20:19] <Damein> dlink dir615
#3103 [20:20] <Kaito> Help...my hud went away...
#3104 [20:20] <|Kiikun|> Damein: ill give it a shot. you get to be my first teamview on the new system :P
#3105 [20:20] <Kaito> is there a hotkey for it?
#3106 [20:20] <Damein> sweet
#3107 [20:20] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: f5
#3108 [20:20] <Kimax> Damein shouldnt be that big of a deal
#3109 [20:20] <|Kiikun|> or was it f1 <.<
#3110 [20:20] <Kealper> F1
#3111 [20:20] <Kaito> f1, thank you
#3112 [20:20] <Kaito> i had a minor panic attack
#3113 [20:20] <Kaito> :P
#3114 [20:20] <|Kiikun|> i know i use them both :P
#3115 [20:21] <Kimax> Damein i ready to help if you want?
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#3117 [20:21] <|Kiikun|> Damein: pm me your info
#3118 [20:21] <Damein> i just tried
#3119 [20:21] <Damein> so /msg your name then id and pass?
#3120 [20:21] <hatman> (I cant stop these annoying "lag spikes" every few seconds even if I stay still offline and online! >:
#3121 [20:22] <|Kiikun|> o.o;;
#3122 [20:22] <|Kiikun|> Damein: yes... and make sure its me and not may laptop ( |Kiikun|Janus| )
#3123 [20:22] <Kimax> lets talk connections... what dos you guys have?
#3124 [20:23] * |Kiikun| just upgraded levels of DSL :/
#3124 [20:23] <Damein> o i see why it didnt work i put [ instead of |
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#3126 [20:23] <|Kiikun|> :P
#3127 [20:24] <|Kiikun|> yes. i like my pipes
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#3129 [20:24] <Kimax> |Kiikun| can you say 100/100 for me :D
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#3134 [20:27] <medici26> so its just not compatible with os x 10.5.8
#3135 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> medici26: correct.
#3136 [20:27] <|Kiikun|> o.o;
#3137 [20:28] * |Kiikun| got closed on
#3137 [20:28] <medici26> bad service i say
#3138 [20:28] * VoxelHead opens |Kiikun|
#3138 [20:28] <Damein> |kiikun|
#3139 [20:28] <|Kiikun|> ow! my skull! stopstopstop!!
#3140 [20:28] <medici26> i paid, why could i skip the update until it works so i could still play?
#3141 [20:28] <|Kiikun|> :P
#3142 [20:28] <|Kiikun|> Damein: yesh?
#3143 [20:28] <Damein> sorry my brother needed to check his email
#3144 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> "needed".
#3145 [20:29] <Damein> here the id is the same
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#3147 [20:29] <Damein> yea he has a a bussiness called cauleys cake creations (bakes cakes for birthdays)
#3148 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> and he hasn't got his own computer?
#3149 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> oh, right. you're on it (:
#3150 [20:30] <Kealper> lol
#3151 [20:31] <Kealper> anyone in here have experience with Java?
#3152 [20:31] <Kealper> specifically....sockets in Java
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#3154 [20:32] <|Kiikun|> !check 99.239.134.192
#3155 [20:33] <|Kiikun|> Damein: your current ip is 99.239.134.192
#3156 [20:33] <Damein> kk so thats the one i join to join the server?
#3157 [20:33] <|Kiikun|> Damein: you can always check at www.whatismyip.com
#3158 [20:33] <Damein> i know that
#3159 [20:33] <|Kiikun|> thats the one everyone else shoudl use
#3160 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> I always preferred ipchicken.com
#3161 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> or moanmyip.com
#3162 [20:33] <VoxelHead> i'm making a cake
#3163 [20:34] <|Kiikun|> Damein: you can use localhost or 127.0.0.1
#3164 [20:34] <Damein> i join with 127.0.0.1 and friends join the 99.239.134.192?
#3165 [20:34] <|Kiikun|> yup
#3166 [20:34] <|Kiikun|> and i just logged in fine
#3167 [20:34] <Damein> wtf moan my ip? lol
#3168 [20:34] <Damein> you gunna take stuff outta my chests bc thenytangel already cleaned me
#3169 [20:35] <|Kiikun|> i just punched some spawn-protected grass :P
#3170 [20:35] <Damein> yea i live with him and my aunt im only 15
#3171 [20:35] <Damein> nice
#3172 [20:35] <Damein> my friend joins and his screen is all black and it says connection lost after a bit why is this?
#3173 [20:36] <|Kiikun|> Damein: have him try again.
#3174 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> Damein: have him reinstall the MC binaries
#3175 [20:37] <Damein> alright and they say it really laggy
#3176 [20:37] <|Kiikun|> Damein: whats your upload speed?
#3177 [20:37] <Damein> how do i do that?
#3178 [20:38] <Damein> 4gb ram?
#3179 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> www.speedtest.net
#3180 [20:38] <Damein> o my neighbour showed me that hold on
#3181 [20:38] * |Kiikun| logs in and molests some trees as a speed test
#3181 [20:38] <Damein> wtf kiikun?
#3182 [20:38] * mib_p49v3b [mib_p49v3b@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3183 [20:39] <|Kiikun|> yeah... bit alggy
#3184 [20:39] <Damein> how do you do that
#3185 [20:39] <|Kiikun|> ok .. very laggy'
#3186 [20:39] <Damein> 217 ms
#3187 [20:39] <mib_p49v3b> why is it that when i try to play this game it keeps saying i have bad flash dive!?
#3188 [20:40] <mib_p49v3b> drive* lol
#3189 [20:40] <Damein> ummm whats that command again to summon voxelhead
#3190 [20:40] <|Kiikun|> mib_p49v3b: um... exact message please?
#3191 [20:40] <Damein> or not
#3192 [20:40] <Damein> ok so basicly your saying my server is slow as heck?
#3193 [20:41] <|Kiikun|> VoxelHead: by the great powers of the nether i summon you to do our bidding!
#3194 [20:41] <Damein> lol
#3195 [20:41] <|Kiikun|> Damein: either too many people, too slow a connection, or too slow a processor.
#3196 [20:41] <|Kiikun|> Damein: or your just really distant in internet terms
#3197 [20:42] <Damein> ok so call rogers and tell em to fix it?
#3198 [20:42] <|Kiikun|> Damein: you probably sdont have all that great of an upload speed... rogers = cable?
#3199 [20:42] <Damein> yes lol thatd be the problem wouldnt it?
#3200 [20:43] <|Kiikun|> Damein: usually cable is better. i have dsl and my upgrade gives me half a med upload :/
#3201 [20:43] <|Kiikun|> *meg
#3202 [20:43] <Damein> so ask for cable?
#3203 [20:43] <Kaito> so...is it 1.9 PRE release, or 1.9 release...
#3204 [20:44] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: prerelease.
#3205 [20:44] <|Kiikun|> Kaito: read that as BUGFEST
#3206 [20:44] <Kaito> gotchya
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#3208 [20:44] <Kaito> but but but they'res villagers!
#3209 [20:44] <Kaito> :P
#3210 [20:45] <|Kiikun|> theyre bugs! and you cant keep jumping with space anymore!
#3211 [20:45] <Damein> my friends mbps is 0.48 is that is that good?
#3212 [20:45] <|Kiikun|> Damein: his upload? same as mine
#3213 [20:45] * |Kiikun| has 3M/512K
#3213 [20:45] <Damein> is it good enough to hold a server?
#3214 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> Damein: .48MBPS is.. not that good.
#3215 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> in short, no.
#3216 [20:46] <Damein> lol
#3217 [20:46] <|Kiikun|> Damein: according to canihostaminecraftserver.com .... 3-4 people
#3218 [20:46] <Damein> thats all i need me brent austen
#3219 [20:46] <Damein> bad grammer
#3220 [20:46] <|Kiikun|> Damein: just hope your computer is fast enough to game and serv :P
#3221 [20:47] <Damein> its not mine it was that guest guy he is going to make server bc his is better then mine
#3222 [20:47] <|Kiikun|> DopeGhoti: new launcher still have the cobble minecraft logo?
#3223 [20:47] <Damein> also 53 ping is that good?
#3224 [20:47] <|Kiikun|> yes :P
#3225 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> |Kiikun|: I've not seen the 19 launcher yet
#3226 [20:48] <|Kiikun|> going by old quake gamaing standard.. over 200 ping is bad
#3227 [20:48] <Damein> what bout 22 ping?
#3228 [20:48] <|Kiikun|> Damein: lower = better
#3229 [20:48] <Damein> mine is 217
#3230 [20:48] <Damein> kk
#3231 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> Damein: well, if 53 is good, what do YOU think 22 is?
#3232 [20:48] <|Kiikun|> over 200 ping = lag = j00 got raepd!
#3233 [20:48] <Damein> lol thanks it was from my friends they wanted to know im talking to them on xbox
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#3235 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> IMing over xbox is quite cumbersome
#3236 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> why would anyone do that?
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#3238 [20:49] <Damein> no talking to them in xbox live party
#3239 [20:49] <VoxelHead> mmm slimer
#3240 [20:50] <person> do you guys know what is wrong with minecraft 1.8.1 it keeps freezing
#3241 [20:50] <person> ?
#3242 [20:50] <Damein> 22ping 6.90 download speed upload speed 0.61 is that good enough to host a server with 3 people?
#3243 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> If I had to guess, the thing that's wrong with it is that it keeps freezing.
#3244 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> Damein: No
#3245 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> you need at least 1MBit upload to reasonably even think of hosting a server
#3246 [20:51] <person> well i cant find any downloads
#3247 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> person win/client
#3248 [20:51] <VoxelHead> person: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#3249 [20:51] <person> kk
#3250 [20:52] <Damein> logmeinhamachi isnt good to host servers either i assume
#3251 [20:52] <person> java can not create a virtual machine grr.. computer
#3252 [20:54] <Damein> my friend asks how does he make upload speed go up
#3253 [20:55] <person> AHHHH... still not working and i think i have the newest download
#3254 [20:55] <Damein> do you have java 6?
#3255 [20:56] <person> yes
#3256 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> Damein: by spending more money with your ISP
#3257 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> also..
#3258 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> ??> Damein fubar/hamachi
#3259 [20:57] <Damein> ok well youll have to get a mods name up so you can talk to them
#3260 [20:57] <VoxelHead> Damein: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#3261 [20:57] <VoxelHead> Damein: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#3262 [20:57] <Damein> hamachi as in logmeinhamachi?
#3263 [20:58] <person> what?
#3264 [20:58] <person> :s
#3265 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> No, hamachi as in a serier of tubes.
#3266 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> Do you refer to everything by prefixing its company of origin?
#3267 [20:58] <person> i have no clue what you are talking about
#3268 [20:59] <Azru> Hahaha, IANA handed out 5.0.0.0/8? I actually didn't know that, so funny.
#3269 [20:59] <Damein> yea and logmeinhamachi is what we used and we had 3 people up at a time but then someone said here that logmeinhamachi isnt good and so we tried portforwardingand it hasnt worked so far :/
#3270 [20:59] <VoxelHead> Why was there bacon in the soap?
#3271 [20:59] <Damein> voxelhead what are you talking bout lol
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#3273 [21:00] <person> i am getting no where bye
#3274 [21:00] <Damein> can i have a conversation with voxelhead?
#3275 [21:00] <VoxelHead> sunday
#3276 [21:00] <Damein> no monday!
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#3278 [21:01] <DopeGhoti> vox, when would you like to talk with Damein?
#3279 [21:01] <VoxelHead> In 41 minutes.
#3280 [21:01] <DopeGhoti> there you go.
#3281 [21:01] <Damein> wow....
#3282 [21:01] <Damein> i feel special
#3283 [21:01] <bob1212121> bacon
#3284 [21:01] <Damein> voxelhead...... i miss talking to you tho
#3285 [21:01] <bob1212121> damein is gay thats why
#3286 [21:02] <Damein> shut it brent
#3287 [21:02] <bob1212121> its not brent its bob
#3288 [21:02] <bob1212121> j
#3289 [21:03] <Damein> i hate brents
#3290 [21:03] <Damein> -_-
#3291 [21:03] <VoxelHead> =]
#3292 [21:03] <Scott> I had a boyfriend named Damian once.
#3293 [21:03] <Damein> love you voxelhead
#3294 [21:03] <Damein> my name is spelt damein
#3295 [21:03] <Scott> I see that.
#3296 [21:03] <Damein> lol
#3297 [21:03] <bob1212121> hes gay go for it
#3298 [21:03] * VoxelHead kicked bob1212121 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ob1212121 :Banned: Offensive ad-hominem invectives. Check out the rules when you come back in three days.)
#3299 [21:04] <Damein> good dont mix me with him wait your a girl?
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#3301 [21:04] <Scott> and no, I'm not a girl1
#3302 [21:04] <SnakeEyes> sweet, minecraft 1.9 will work for mac, alrigt!
#3303 [21:04] <Scott> !
#3304 [21:04] <SnakeEyes> alright*
#3305 [21:04] <VoxelHead> Sufferin' succatash!
#3306 [21:04] <Damein> lol sylvester
#3307 [21:05] <SnakeEyes> did they ever find out why 1.8 is not working at all for mac?
#3308 [21:05] <Damein> you happy then?
#3309 [21:06] <Damein> scott you guy and date guys
#3310 [21:06] <Scott> SnakeEyes: On Leopard?
#3311 [21:06] <Scott> It worked for me on Lion.
#3312 [21:06] <Damein> he left
#3313 [21:06] <Damein> :/
#3314 [21:07] <Damein> i wanna have a chat with voxelhead
#3315 [21:07] <Damein> :/
#3316 [21:07] <Damein> i found out how to do this now
#3317 [21:08] <Damein> kealper wug GreyVulpine
#3318 [21:08] <Kealper> rawr
#3319 [21:08] <Damein> lol i can do it now
#3320 [21:08] <Damein> :)
#3321 [21:09] <Kealper> lol
#3322 [21:09] <Kealper> vox seems rather.....
#3323 [21:09] <Kealper> word-sensitive....
#3324 [21:09] <Damein> sorry kealper just wanted to see if it works
#3325 [21:09] <Kealper> a kick would have sufficed
#3326 [21:09] <Damein> yea.... bob1212121
#3327 [21:10] <Damein> hes my friend and he tried to call me the g word
#3328 [21:10] * Kealper goes back to trying to make a program in Java
#3328 [21:10] <Kealper> i'll probably give up after about two hours of realizing i bit off more than i can chew
#3329 [21:10] <Damein> then again bob1212121 has been kicked 3 times now
#3330 [21:11] <Damein> lol
#3331 [21:11] <Damein> how do you make it so i can make it say like damein going to try blah blah blah?
#3332 [21:12] <[L]> What the hell did i miss out on?
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#3334 [21:12] <Damein> or w.e you did to make it say goes back to trying to make a program in Java
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#3337 [21:12] <Damein> [L] nothing much
#3338 [21:12] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> o3o
#3339 [21:12] <Damein> just my friend getting banned for 3 days
#3340 [21:13] <Damein> uh oh i remember that nickname
#3341 [21:13] <Damein> o3o
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#3343 [21:13] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> I had to take a nap, I was kranky
#3344 [21:13] <Damein> lol
#3345 [21:13] <mib_069qtr> how do i fix Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
#3346 [21:13] <Damein> i thought you got banned
#3347 [21:13] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> nah
#3348 [21:13] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> just PMS ing
#3349 [21:13] <Damein> but voxelhead banned you
#3350 [21:14] <Damein> lol
#3351 [21:14] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> why would he do that?
#3352 [21:14] <Damein> seargent_butter
#3353 [21:14] <Damein> !!!
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#3355 [21:14] <Damein> seargent_buttermuffins!
#3356 [21:14] <raisin> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. help
#3357 [21:14] <Damein> bc you kept asking for free minecraft account
#3358 [21:15] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> what?
#3359 [21:15] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> no
#3360 [21:15] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> I just got it today
#3361 [21:15] <Damein> somebody help raisin
#3362 [21:15] * Seargent_Buttermuffins has no clue how to help bro
#3362 [21:15] <Damein> o well whyd you say o3o bc he got banned yesterday
#3363 [21:15] <Damein> lol
#3364 [21:15] <raisin> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. help
#3365 [21:15] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> because I was making a silly face
#3366 [21:15] <Damein> how do you make it do that it does that?
#3367 [21:15] <Damein> ?
#3368 [21:16] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> o 3o
#3369 [21:16] <Damein> Seargent_Buttermuffins has no clue how to help bro how do you do that?
#3370 [21:16] <raisin> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. help
#3371 [21:16] * mib_wrbjyq [mib_wrbjyq@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3372 [21:16] <raisin> i click on mine craft and it says it
#3373 [21:16] <Damein> o really coincidence it says the exact same as someone who got banned yesterday
#3374 [21:16] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> anywho, I had originally come because my minecraft wouldn't start
#3375 [21:16] <Damein> hold on raisin
#3376 [21:16] <raisin> ?
#3377 [21:16] <Damein> help?
#3378 [21:16] <Damein> kealper
#3379 [21:17] <Damein> come here kealper
#3380 [21:17] <Kealper> hmm?
#3381 [21:17] <Damein> you wanna help with opengl mode
#3382 [21:17] <raisin> help
#3383 [21:17] <Kealper> ??. raisin win/dxdiag
#3384 [21:17] <Kealper> crap
#3385 [21:17] <Damein> fail!
#3386 [21:17] <Kealper> ??> raisin win/dxdiag
#3387 [21:17] <Damein> lol
#3388 [21:18] <VoxelHead> raisin: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3389 [21:18] <VoxelHead> raisin: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3390 [21:18] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> :3
#3391 [21:18] <VoxelHead> :-)
#3392 [21:18] <Damein> voxelhead your back!
#3393 [21:18] <eggy> ?? mac
#3394 [21:18] <eggy> heh
#3395 [21:18] <Damein> :3
#3396 [21:18] <VoxelHead> ^_^
#3397 [21:18] <Damein> yay!
#3398 [21:18] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> cuz see, it keeps sticking on this, and doesn't do anything else http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n109/Kittyismaster/minecrafthalp.png
#3399 [21:18] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> D:
#3400 [21:18] <Damein> ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) this face is gunna haunt you forever
#3401 [21:19] <Damein> raisin\
#3402 [21:19] <Damein> raisin
#3403 [21:19] <Damein> hows it going voxelhead
#3404 [21:19] <Damein> ns huh?
#3405 [21:19] <Damein> raisin you there
#3406 [21:20] <Kealper> Seargent_Buttermuffins: unfortunately i'm not sure how to fix that :/
#3407 [21:20] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> I was told to update my java, and I did
#3408 [21:20] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> same problem
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#3410 [21:20] <Damein> kealper how do you make it so that i do something like you did with the Kealper goes back to trying to make a program in Java
#3411 [21:21] <Damein> same problem?
#3412 [21:21] * Kealper says like this: /me
#3412 [21:21] <Kealper> what i actually typed to get that message was: /me says like this: /me
#3413 [21:21] * Damein im going to rip into you ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
#3413 [21:21] <Damein> yes!
#3414 [21:21] <Kealper> !load mod_exec
#3415 [21:21] <Kealper> derp.
#3416 [21:21] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> le sigh
#3417 [21:21] <Damein> lol
#3418 [21:22] <Kealper> aubot?
#3419 [21:22] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> maybe it would work on my brother's computer?
#3420 [21:22] <Kealper> Seargent_Buttermuffins: that is a possibility
#3421 [21:22] <Damein> ns whats your computer type?
#3422 [21:22] <Kealper> .cmd list
#3423 [21:22] <Kealper> ok that module clearly did not load
#3424 [21:22] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> it's a 2008 sony vaio
#3425 [21:22] <Damein> wait seargeant how can you read his text kealper?
#3426 [21:23] <mib_wrbjyq> When I try to run minecraft, it asks me for my login info but it won't accept it (and says "not downloaded"??) Can someone help me
#3427 [21:23] <Damein> lol thats not a thing i recognize
#3428 [21:23] <Kealper> Damein: what?
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#3430 [21:23] <Damein> kealper how do you know what seargent_buttermuffins is saying?
#3431 [21:23] <Kealper> mib_wrbjyq: try playing on the browser first
#3432 [21:23] <Kealper> Damein: because....i can see his messages?
#3433 [21:23] * Kealper is confused
#3433 [21:23] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> lol
#3434 [21:24] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> hurdiurr
#3435 [21:24] <SnakeEyes> ....oh maybe i should go ask the guy who made the fix for 1.8 for mac
#3436 [21:24] <Damein> he keeps sending blank messages
#3437 [21:24] <SnakeEyes> cuz now, it wont let me load up
#3438 [21:24] <mib_wrbjyq> ok, thx.
#3439 [21:24] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> :O?
#3440 [21:24] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> I do not
#3441 [21:24] * Seargent_Buttermuffins ping Damien
#3441 [21:25] <Kealper> Damein: you're using an excruciatingly crappy IRC client, try http://webchat.esper.net
#3442 [21:25] * Seargent_Buttermuffins ping Damein with better spalling
#3442 [21:25] * Seargent_Buttermuffins still fails
#3442 [21:25] <Kealper> Seargent_Buttermuffins: spalling ftw
#3443 [21:25] <raisin> back
#3444 [21:25] <Damein> lol kealper owned seargent_buttermuffins
#3445 [21:25] <Kealper> ??> raisin win/dxdiag
#3446 [21:25] <VoxelHead> raisin: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3447 [21:25] <VoxelHead> raisin: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3448 [21:26] <raisin> http://pastebin.com/Qax9PKLb
#3449 [21:26] <Damein> voxelhead has it been 41 minutes can i chat with you :3 perty please
#3450 [21:26] <Kealper> raisin: thanks, one moment
#3451 [21:27] <Kealper> Damein: you realize vox is a bot, right?
#3452 [21:27] * VoxelHead smacks Kealper
#3452 [21:27] <VoxelHead> shut up
#3453 [21:27] <Kealper> D:
#3454 [21:27] <Damein> yes i do but he said i could chat with him
#3455 [21:27] <Kealper> sorry vox :<
#3456 [21:27] <VoxelHead> that's ok kealper and you're sitting in it right now
#3457 [21:27] <Damein> you got smacked kealper
#3458 [21:27] * Damein cowers in fear of getting smacked from voxelhead
#3458 [21:28] <Kealper> raisin: your computer is quite old....if it ends up running Minecraft, it's not going to run it very well at all
#3459 [21:28] <Kealper> vox, fire everything at Damein
#3460 [21:28] * VoxelHead swoops in on Damein
#3460 [21:28] <VoxelHead> *fires the Universe Gun(tm) at Damein*
#3461 [21:28] <Damein> no
#3462 [21:28] <raisin> ly like one year ld
#3463 [21:28] <Damein> omg!!!!
#3464 [21:28] <Kealper> raisin: is it one of those little netbook laptops?
#3465 [21:29] <raisin> yess...
#3466 [21:29] <Kealper> that would explain why i thought it was old....
#3467 [21:29] <Damein> LOLLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOOLLLOLL
#3468 [21:29] <Damein> thats why
#3469 [21:29] <raisin> k
#3470 [21:29] <Kealper> those are usually made with quite crappy things, but hold on, i'll give you instructions on how to get Minecraft "working"
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#3472 [21:29] <raisin> k thx
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#3474 [21:29] <Damein> lol to get it to work is gunna be hard
#3475 [21:30] <SnakeEyes> man i did exactly what the utube vid said
#3476 [21:30] <Damein> voxelhead have a cup of tea and sit down and chat with me
#3477 [21:30] <SnakeEyes> now i cant access main menu!! ARGH! lol
#3478 [21:30] <Damein> youtube isnt really useful
#3479 [21:30] <SnakeEyes> well it was to install that updaye
#3480 [21:30] <SnakeEyes> update*
#3481 [21:31] <Kealper> raisin: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18472&keyword=%22Intel%28R%29+Graphics+Media+Accelerator+500%22&DownloadType=Drivers&lang=eng
#3482 [21:31] <SnakeEyes> i followed suit, but now i cant access the main menu
#3483 [21:31] <Kealper> SnakeEyes: what's the issue?
#3484 [21:32] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> o 3o
#3485 [21:32] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> wrar, I are a gulpin
#3486 [21:32] <SnakeEyes> i can log in but when it pops up to the main menu- its black screen, and i installed the update that someone made to fix the problem for 1.8.1 on macs
#3487 [21:32] <Kealper> Seargent_Buttermuffins: uhh....what?
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#3489 [21:33] <SnakeEyes> i should actually say the main menu doesnt show....at ALL
#3490 [21:33] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> exacrctly
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#3493 [21:33] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> :\
#3494 [21:33] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> wow, I suck
#3495 [21:33] <Kealper> SnakeEyes: oh, on a mac...sorry, can't help....i hear the issue will be fixed inside Minecraft 1.9 though
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#3497 [21:34] <raisin> k after what
#3498 [21:34] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> eee I feel dizzy
#3499 [21:35] <Seargent_Buttermuffins> @ 3@
#3500 [21:35] <raisin> after download what do i do
#3501 [21:36] <danielito262> i have an annoying error in minecraft it is pixel format not acelerated
#3502 [21:36] <danielito262> how do i fix it?
#3503 [21:36] <Kealper> raisin: is there a setup file inside that .zip file i linked you to?
#3504 [21:36] <Kealper> danielito262: update your graphics drivers
#3505 [21:37] <raisin> yes
#3506 [21:37] <Kealper> raisin: run that then
#3507 [21:37] <raisin> k
#3508 [21:37] <Kealper> raisin: after it is done, you will probably need to restart your computer
#3509 [21:37] <Kealper> but it should get Minecraft running
#3510 [21:38] <raisin> how do i run it
#3511 [21:39] <raisin> umm?
#3512 [21:39] <Kealper> raisin: did you try double clicking the setup file?
#3513 [21:39] <raisin> -3-
#3514 [21:40] <raisin> oh one ec i clicked save oops
#3515 [21:42] <raisin> umm how do i run it
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#3518 [21:43] <raisin> durh
#3519 [21:43] <raisin> ?
#3520 [21:44] <raisin> im running it now
#3521 [21:45] <raisin> grr it said an error occured during running setup
#3522 [21:46] <ankhe> I have a question: How do I allocate more memory/RAM to Minecraft to reduce lag?
#3523 [21:49] <raisin> grr my fng computer
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#3526 [21:54] <OJACheung> hi
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#3528 [21:55] <eggy> What version of java do I need to download for MC to work on OS X Lion?
#3529 [21:56] <rasin> Bad video card drivers! holp
#3530 [21:57] <rasin> Bad video card drivers! help
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#3532 [22:03] <peeves> omfg my fn computer
#3533 [22:03] <peeves> Bad video card drivers!
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#3535 [22:07] <peeves> umm
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#3539 [22:34] <|Kiikun|> peeves: update video drivers... like it says...
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#3541 [22:36] <ankhe> I have a question, if it is not too much trouble. How do I allocate more memory/RAM to Minecraft to make it lag less? (I'm playing at an average of 3-4 FPS.)
#3542 [22:36] <ace> can anyone help me?
#3543 [22:37] <Guest92413> i just bought Minecraft via minecraft.net and when i try to log in, it says user not premium?
#3544 [22:37] <Guest92413> and gives me try again or offline
#3545 [22:37] <Guest92413> help?
#3546 [22:37] <|Kiikun|> Guest92413: uping the memory minecraft has available wont really help there unless your running HD texture packs.
#3547 [22:38] <|Kiikun|> Guest92413: youre better off updating your java install and video drivers.
#3548 [22:39] <Guest92413> wait are you talking to me?
#3549 [22:39] <Guest92413> or ankhe?
#3550 [22:39] <ankhe> And what if I am running the latest Java version (32 and 64 bit) as well as having the latest updates for my drivers?
#3551 [22:39] <|Kiikun|> Guest92413: your the only one named Guest92413 :P
#3552 [22:39] <|Kiikun|> erm oopas
#3553 [22:39] <ankhe> Well, he asked about the account.
#3554 [22:39] <|Kiikun|> ankhe: ok that was all aimed at you
#3555 [22:39] * |Kiikun| just saw nick turn to guest ^^;
#3555 [22:40] <ankhe> I think it just takes a while for Mojang to authenticate your purchase and that is why it is taking awhile for the website to say your account is premium.
#3556 [22:40] <|Kiikun|> ??> Guest92413 payment
#3557 [22:40] <VoxelHead> Guest92413: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#3558 [22:40] <VoxelHead> Guest92413: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#3559 [22:40] <Guest92413> ohh ok thankyou :) i bought it earlier today like 4-5 hours ago
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#3561 [22:41] <Vuglrak> Hello
#3562 [22:42] <|Kiikun|> ankhe: then lower graphics settings and run fewer other programs.
#3563 [22:42] <Vuglrak> Can someone please help me in regards to buying Minecraft?
#3564 [22:42] <|Kiikun|> ??> ankhe requirements
#3565 [22:42] <VoxelHead> ankhe: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#3566 [22:42] <Vuglrak> I'm trying to buy the game but get an odd error I can't seem to get any help on. The error I'm getting is "Transaction not allowed You have entered invalid payment instrument details. Please check and try again."
#3567 [22:42] <|Kiikun|> Vuglrak: whats the issue? we cant actually DO anything but we can point you in the right direction
#3568 [22:42] <Vuglrak> I really want to buy the game, and my credit card information is correct, please help if you can.
#3569 [22:42] <DopeGhoti> Vuglrak: call the phone number on the back of the card
#3570 [22:43] <Vuglrak> I have money on the debit card but it gives me that error.
#3571 [22:43] <DopeGhoti> and ask the bank why they are refusing the transaction
#3572 [22:43] <dalecannon> try another card
#3573 [22:43] <dalecannon> a cc
#3574 [22:43] <Vuglrak> I don't have any other ones I can use.
#3575 [22:43] <|Kiikun|> put the money on paypal, they pay via paypal :P
#3576 [22:43] <dalecannon> ^
#3577 [22:43] <DopeGhoti> Vuglrak: call the phone number on the back of the card and ask the bank why they are refusing the transaction
#3578 [22:43] <Vuglrak> Okay, I'll try that now.
#3579 [22:44] <dalecannon> yeah you might have restrictions on it
#3580 [22:44] <DopeGhoti> ?? prepaid
#3581 [22:44] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#3582 [22:44] <dalecannon> i have to call to make international payments
#3583 [22:44] <|Kiikun|> Vuglrak: make sure to mention its an International Transaction to Mojang AB
#3584 [22:44] <dalecannon> what vox said too, weve had problems running giftcards in the CC at my business
#3585 [22:45] <Vuglrak> Ahh, that must be the problem, it's a prepaid debit card.
#3586 [22:45] <dalecannon> i read it earlier but was half asleep, is current version not generating snowy regions
#3587 [22:45] <Vuglrak> I guess I'll find another way to pay.
#3588 [22:45] <Vuglrak> Not sure if I can, haha.
#3589 [22:46] <|Kiikun|> dalecannon: nope
#3590 [22:46] <dalecannon> nope as in it isnt, or im wrong
#3591 [22:46] <|Kiikun|> nope as in we are in a dire lack of snow and roses
#3592 [22:47] <dalecannon> spent last night exploring and found the bloody sahara desert in going through the middle of my map
#3593 [22:47] <dalecannon> lol
#3594 [22:47] <DopeGhoti> Snow and roses are found in the highest peaks in the Nether now.
#3595 [22:47] <dalecannon> i see tons of mushrooms
#3596 [22:47] <|Kiikun|> DopeGhoti: . . . seriously? i call bullshite
#3597 [22:47] <dalecannon> and saw some flowers near a bedrock lava spring
#3598 [22:48] <ankhe> Err... Okay. Well I have more than 6 GB of RAM available on my computer... And I've checked how much RAM the game is using... Only 500 out of the 1000 maximum MB. Of course I don't expect 60 FPS, but I expect at least enough to be able to use creative mode in way that allows me to place more than 10 blocks every five minutes. :(
#3599 [22:48] <|Kiikun|> ankhe: you using a crappy intel integrated card?
#3600 [22:48] <DopeGhoti> ankhe: that might be either a GPU or CPU issue. Most likely, the former
#3601 [22:48] <dalecannon> yeah
#3602 [22:48] <dalecannon> i play max settings on my laptop
#3603 [22:50] <ankhe> Intel yes, but crappy? I don't think so. It plays every other game I own flawlessly.
#3604 [22:50] <dalecannon> <ankhe> Intel yes, but crappy? I don't think so. It plays every other game I own flawlessly.
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#3606 [22:50] <dalecannon> thats your problem
#3607 [22:50] <ankhe> But I suppose that's subjective... (my comment).
#3608 [22:50] <dalecannon> you got gpu issues
#3609 [22:50] <dalecannon> aka you need a proper card
#3610 [22:50] <Yewchung> Help my Minecraft won't let me sigh in to my account
#3611 [22:51] <Yewchung> *sign
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#3613 [22:51] <|Kiikun|> ankhe: intel BLOWS at opengl support. minecraft runs on opengl.
#3614 [22:51] <Yewchung> It started when 1.8 came out
#3615 [22:51] <|Kiikun|> Yewchung: redownload the client
#3616 [22:51] <|Kiikun|> !client
#3617 [22:52] <eggy> !java
#3618 [22:52] <|Kiikun|> ??> eggy getjava
#3619 [22:52] <VoxelHead> eggy: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#3620 [22:52] <|Kiikun|> :P
#3621 [22:52] <eggy> ah
#3622 [22:52] <Yewchung> trying that now
#3623 [22:52] <eggy> well, is that what my 10.7 needs \o/
#3624 [22:52] <dalecannon> did you try and reset your pass
#3625 [22:53] <|Kiikun|> Yewchung: if you were using the OLD client (the one without news), it doesnt work anymore
#3626 [22:53] <eggy> sad, I liked that launcher too :\
#3627 [22:54] <|Kiikun|> eggy: i started playing in 1.5_01 so i never (officially) got to use it :P
#3628 [22:55] <eggy> yea, same
#3629 [22:55] <|Kiikun|> eggy: i still like the current client better anyway
#3630 [22:55] <eggy> I "discovered" it "later" ;)
#3631 [22:55] <eggy> started playing right before 1.6
#3632 [22:56] <|Kiikun|> you shouldnt have needed to 'discover' the old launcher if you were already legit :P
#3633 [22:56] <eggy> correct
#3634 [22:56] <eggy> was when the auth servers were playing up
#3635 [22:56] <eggy> that's when i found it
#3636 [22:57] <ankhe> Looked my specific video card up. It says it runs OpenGL* applications in 16-bit and 32-bit color depths.
#3637 [22:57] <eggy> I has two accounts :]
#3638 [22:57] <eggy> !paied eggdog
#3639 [22:57] <eggy> derr
#3640 [22:57] <ankhe> Is Minecraft 64-bit?
#3641 [22:57] <|Kiikun|> ankhe: didnt say it couldnt run opengl.. just says it sucks at it.
#3642 [22:58] <ankhe> Oh... Mmk.
#3643 [22:58] <|Kiikun|> ankhe: minecraft is java. it will run in either 32 or 64 bit mode depending on which java it runs under.
#3644 [22:59] * |Kiikun| runs it on 64bit mode now :D
#3644 [23:01] <ankhe> Alright... Thank you for the information... Perhaps you could recommend a video card?
#3645 [23:03] <|Kiikun|> nvidia or ati/amd cards are best. card you pick depends on price range and what your system can support.
#3646 [23:04] * |Kiikun| personslly runs an EVGA Nvidia Geforce 460 GTX
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#3647 [23:05] <maeyrl> Guys I need help, I tp'd to a far distance, and, now, it keeps kicking me for "Illegal Position" please help, it wont let me join.
#3648 [23:05] <maeyrl> It keeps kicking me
#3649 [23:05] <|Kiikun|> maeyrl: on a server?
#3650 [23:05] <maeyrl> Yes
#3651 [23:05] <|Kiikun|> maeyrl: you have access to the files for said server?
#3652 [23:05] <maeyrl> No
#3653 [23:05] <maeyrl> I'm the Co-Owner
#3654 [23:06] <ankhe> Alright, well thank you for the information and recommendations. I'll just research everything else.
#3655 [23:06] <|Kiikun|> maeyrl: youll need whoever has access to either delete your player file to reset you.. or use a tool to a
#3656 [23:06] <maeyrl> So, how do I fix this?
#3657 [23:07] <|Kiikun|> maeyrl: you cant log in, so using /tp cant fix it.
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#3659 [23:07] <maeyrl> Deleting my player file...
#3660 [23:07] <maeyrl> How would you use a tool for that?
#3661 [23:07] * |Kiikun| doesnt know what programs edit player locations
#3661 [23:07] <maeyrl> o
#3662 [23:08] * |Kiikun| googles
#3662 [23:09] <|Kiikun|> maeyrl: did you happen to go teleport into the farlands?
#3663 [23:11] <|Kiikun|> from some wiki: Also if the absolute number of X or Z is set greater than 3.2E7D the client will be kicked for "Illegal position"
#3664 [23:16] <maeyrl> Thanks dude
#3665 [23:16] <maeyrl> Oh yes
#3666 [23:16] <maeyrl> I did
#3667 [23:16] <|Kiikun|> yeah... cant find an editor for that :P
#3668 [23:16] <maeyrl> So I have to have my player data reset?
#3669 [23:17] <|Kiikun|> im looking one more place
#3670 [23:17] <maeyrl> Will that delete my rank?
#3671 [23:18] <|Kiikun|> maeyrl: coudl always have them restore a backup.. if any were made
#3672 [23:18] * |Kiikun| might have found something
#3672 [23:19] <maeyrl> We have some, we have like 75 backups
#3673 [23:21] <|Kiikun|> i dont know for sure.. but if player files are saved in nbt format this might work http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/6661-nbtedit/
#3674 [23:21] <|Kiikun|> just find whatever key holds your coords and set it somewhere safe
#3675 [23:23] <maeyrl> I know for a fact mc edit works with that
#3676 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> mcedit edits player locations on smp? *didnt even have an inkling of that*
#3677 [23:24] <maeyrl> It does
#3678 [23:24] <maeyrl> I've seen it before
#3679 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> ok try mcedit then
#3680 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> i figured it woudl be a singleplayer only thing
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#3682 [23:28] <|Kiikun|> aw... farlands got fixed :/
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#3684 [23:32] <VoxelHead> mmm keltinray
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#3686 [23:33] <DopeGhoti> maeyrl: still around and/or looking for a solution?
#3687 [23:35] <|Kiikun|> :P
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#3691 [23:39] <cool> Hello, I have a problem when I play Minecraft Classic. When I click multiplayer or singleplayer on Classic, there is an error that says "Fatal Error (4): Unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack.
#3692 [23:41] <cool> Hello, I have a problem when I play Minecraft Classic. When I click multiplayer or singleplayer on Classic, there is an error that says "Fatal Error (4): Unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack.
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#3694 [23:42] <cool> Somebody please help me.
#3695 [23:43] <discgnome> 1st problem ever with game- moved to new city, now have message that copy is unlicensed, must purchase, (purchased when still alpha), and cannot log on for online play. Recently defragged and cleaned disc.
#3696 [23:43] * |Kiikun| doesnt know classic errors all that well...
#3696 [23:43] <|Kiikun|> cool: try deleting any minecraft folders from your temp folder?
#3697 [23:43] <cool> I never downloaded anything except for Java.
#3698 [23:43] <|Kiikun|> discgnome: you clicked 'play offline' right?
#3699 [23:43] <discgnome> yes
#3700 [23:44] <|Kiikun|> cool: by trying to play classic, it downloads the game files to your temp folder.
#3701 [23:44] <cool> Well, if this helps I am playing on Chrome...
#3702 [23:44] <discgnome> that's when message appeared
#3703 [23:44] <|Kiikun|> discgnome: that just means it couldnt confirm your registration. its cosmetic.
#3704 [23:45] <|Kiikun|> discgnome: and the OLD client (one without news feed) no longer works.
#3705 [23:45] <|Kiikun|> !client
#3706 [23:46] <cool> Where can you remove temp folders?
#3707 [23:46] <|Kiikun|> cool: you on windows?
#3708 [23:46] <cool> Windows 7
#3709 [23:47] <|Kiikun|> cool: press win+r and type %temp% in the window that opens
#3710 [23:48] <cool> I deleted a folder that said, "Minecraft"
#3711 [23:48] <cool> Is this correct?
#3712 [23:48] <|Kiikun|> yup. is there one named www.minecraft.net too?
#3713 [23:49] <cool> Within the Minecraft folder...
#3714 [23:49] <cool> The file was sent to the recycle bin. Ever since the first time I attempted to play and log on, the error occurred.
#3715 [23:51] <|Kiikun|> cool: did you try playing again after doing that?
#3716 [23:51] <discgnome> tried that, got the news, login error
#3717 [23:51] <cool> I just tried. The same error occured.
#3718 [23:53] <|Kiikun|> ??> cool getjava
#3719 [23:53] <VoxelHead> cool: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#3720 [23:53] <|Kiikun|> update to the latest.. if you have it already uninstall and reinstall
#3721 [23:55] <|Kiikun|> discgnome: what is the login error this time?
#3722 [23:55] <discgnome> just says login failed
#3723 [23:56] <|Kiikun|> discgnome: doublecheck your login info and possibly even change your password.
#3724 [23:57] <|Kiikun|> ooook... apparently going past 30,000,000 causes you to bug out completely... *is currently doing a midair high speed spin... with orbiting reed*
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#3726 [23:59] <discgnome> OK. I'm a dumbass....retreating to corner