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#4 [00:39] <smerft> How do you unblock minecraft from your firewall?
#5 [00:39] <Pythagorix> so yeah
#6 [00:39] <Pythagorix> that was like the quickes crash ever i moved like a block
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#9 [00:40] <almostroot> Pythagorix: Any mods or texture packs?
#10 [00:40] <almostroot> smerft: Varies. Google it for your particular anti-virus/firewall. Check Windows Firewall as well.
#11 [00:41] <Pythagorix> none
#12 [00:42] <Pythagorix> no theres not mods or texture pack i actually just put it on the other computer yesterday
#13 [00:43] <almostroot> Pythagorix: Exact same/similar Java issue?
#14 [00:43] <almostroot> issue==error
#15 [00:43] <Pythagorix> ??
#16 [00:43] <Pythagorix> i dont know minecraft keeps closing
#17 [00:44] <Pythagorix> i ran javara and and my java is up to date
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#19 [00:48] <ferminter> Hi, so I just turned my firewall off for a while and it never fixed that problem.
#20 [00:49] <Ryladine> Pythagrix: Can you upload the most recent crash report to pastebin?
#21 [00:49] <almostroot> Pythagorix: Are you playing the downloaded version or the browser version?
#22 [00:49] <Pythagorix> yeh i will give me a sec
#23 [00:49] <Ryladine> Answer almostroot please
#24 [00:50] <Ryladine> He probably knows more about it than I do, but I wasn't sure he was going to respond, took him a while.
#25 [00:50] <Ryladine> storms again?
#26 [00:51] * almostroot is playing with vSphere.
#26 [00:51] <Ryladine> lol
#27 [00:51] <almostroot> Need to find a better use for my e-mail checking machine at work.
#28 [00:51] <Ryladine> hm I just noticed, the + disapeared XD, what was it anyway? kealper did something and then it was there
#29 [00:52] <Ryladine> Lol you have a machine just to check e-mail? Yeah, it does sound like it's time for a better use for it. XD
#30 [00:53] <almostroot> Pythagorix: I see nothing in my logs about someone voicing you.
#31 [00:53] <Pythagorix> okay soo im not aloud to click the submit button
#32 [00:53] <almostroot> Erm, helps if I can read. >.<
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#37 [00:54] <Pythagorix> http://pastebin.com/kqDgtPLV
#38 [00:56] <almostroot> Pythagorix: Are you playing the downloaded version or the browser version?
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#40 [00:57] <almostroot> Ryladine: Better?
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#42 [00:57] <Pythagorix> okay
#43 [00:57] <Ryladine> Fff Pressed the wrong button and had to try 8+ times to get back into the channel
#44 [00:57] <Pythagorix> http://pastebin.com/kqDgtPLV
#45 [00:58] <almostroot> Pythagorix: Last time: Are you playing the downloaded version or the browser version?
#46 [00:58] <Pythagorix> lol downloaded
#47 [00:58] <almostroot> Pythagorix: What happens when you try the browser version?
#48 [00:58] <Pythagorix> sorry i though i answered you
#49 [00:58] <Pythagorix> i have tried
#50 [00:59] <Pythagorix> haven't*
#51 [00:59] <almostroot> ??> Pythagorix play
#52 [00:59] <VoxelHead> Pythagorix: (play) http://www.minecraft.net/game/
#53 [01:00] <Pythagorix> loaded world got to play for about have a second enought to turn and now its a white screen
#54 [01:01] <almostroot> Pythagorix: Ahhhh, I know the issue. Run a dxdiag so that I can find updated graphics card drivers for you.
#55 [01:01] <almostroot> ??> Pythagorix win/dxdiag
#56 [01:01] <VoxelHead> Pythagorix: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#57 [01:01] <VoxelHead> Pythagorix: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#58 [01:01] <almostroot> Pythagorix: Sorry that I brain farted and didn;t remember it earlier.
#59 [01:01] <Pythagorix> i have no mouse
#60 [01:02] <Ryladine> pythagorix: You man you have no mouse attached to the PC you installed minecraft on?
#61 [01:02] <Pythagorix> noo
#62 [01:03] <Pythagorix> i mean it wouldnt move off mincecraft fixed it though
#63 [01:03] <Ryladine> Ah
#64 [01:04] <Pythagorix> give me a sec gotta transfer to this computer
#65 [01:05] <Pythagorix> http://pastebin.com/N6QE5Qk5
#66 [01:07] <almostroot> Pythagorix: That computer is going to struggle, but these drivers should help. Choose and install option 1. http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#67 [01:07] <Pythagorix> okay i'll start typing that
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#69 [01:10] <Ryladine> Yay! AuBot is back!
#70 [01:10] <Ryladine> lol, You know it's getting late when you can be exited that a bot came back into the room....
#71 [01:10] <JohnEBH> !check MPG.JHServers.net
#72 [01:11] <JohnEBH> !check MPG.JHServers.net:25566
#73 [01:12] <m0nk> when is 1.9?
#74 [01:13] <m0nk> omg i got autoanswer the last time i asked
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#76 [01:13] <Ryladine> m0nk: There is no official release date for 1.9.
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#78 [01:14] <m0nk> does xp get to have numbers?
#79 [01:14] <m0nk> and lvls?
#80 [01:14] <m0nk> and skills?
#81 [01:14] <m0nk> and spells?
#82 [01:14] <Ryladine> m0nk: I'm afraid I don't know.
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#84 [01:15] <Ryladine> m0nk: I know there are some new items, blocks, and mobs, and snow is being put back in, but that is all that I can say for certain.
#85 [01:15] <m0nk> k i'll just whats the yogscast for now then
#86 [01:15] <m0nk> watch*
#87 [01:15] <Ryladine> Oh, hi greyvulpine.
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#89 [01:17] <jimmy> testing
#90 [01:17] <jimmy> Is anyone there?
#91 [01:17] <almostroot> jimmy: Nope. Just us ghosts.
#92 [01:18] * Ryladine sneaks around "Boo! I'mma ghost!"
#92 [01:18] <jimmy> Can anyone help me with a few questions on updating my server?
#93 [01:18] <Ryladine> Jimmy: What do you mean by updating?
#94 [01:18] <almostroot> jimmy: Depends on what they are, but I'm sure we can try.
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#96 [01:19] <jimmy> I mean I have a 1.8 server and I want to update to 1.9, is there any good way of doing this? Or should I just wipe everything and install a 1.9 server.
#97 [01:20] <Rivitingone> Anyone on willing to help me trouble shoot a weird issue causing my server to be unreachable by anyone but me?
#98 [01:20] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: I can.
#99 [01:20] <almostroot> jimmy: 1.9 is pre-release, lots of bugs. It is not recommended right now. If you insist, I would recommend completely backing up your current installation and creating a fresh install.
#100 [01:21] <Pythagorix> okay shouw i continue or stop installatiiion of ati because it has not passed windows logo testing to verify compatibility with xp
#101 [01:21] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: The first real question, have you port-forwarded?
#102 [01:21] <Rivitingone> Ports are forwarded, no firewall. Vinella 1.8 server install. The server has been running since 1.8 was released with no issues
#103 [01:21] <jimmy> Ok thanks, should I also do a clean wipe even if 1.9 was out and it wasn't per-release?
#104 [01:21] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: What is the IP of the server?
#105 [01:22] <Rivitingone> came home and the power had gone out. Ever since I rebooted nobody can connect via internet or lan
#106 [01:22] <Ketsueki> Well this is interesting; in 1.9 pre (smp) you can /gamemode player (0 or 1 for survival / creative respectively)
#107 [01:22] <Rivitingone> ip: 68.185.171.160
#108 [01:22] <almostroot> Ketsueki: You can do that in 1.8/
#109 [01:22] <Ketsueki> almostroot: I was running bukkit for 1.8; multiverse did that for me
#110 [01:23] * Ryladine feels a bit stupid..
#110 [01:23] <almostroot> !check 68.185.171.160
#111 [01:23] <Ketsueki> However 1.9 has slightly more grainularity than bukkit's world plugin did.
#112 [01:23] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Do you have a static, or dynamic IP?
#113 [01:23] <almostroot> Rivitingone: Is it possible your IP address changed?
#114 [01:23] <almostroot> ??> Rivitingone ip/external
#115 [01:23] <VoxelHead> Rivitingone: (ip/external) Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#116 [01:23] <VoxelHead> Rivitingone: (ip/external) Or just say "!myip" and aubot will tell you.
#117 [01:24] <almostroot> ;ip Rivitingone
#118 [01:24] <WugBot> IP address of Rivitingone is: 68.185.171.160
#119 [01:24] <almostroot> Neeeeevermind.
#120 [01:24] <Rivitingone> probably dynamic but I just checked it as I gave it to you and
#121 [01:24] <Ketsueki> Port forwarding or custom port
#122 [01:24] <almostroot> Love you WugBot.
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#124 [01:24] <Rivitingone> using 25565 and both udp and tcp ports are all forwarded and showing green
#125 [01:24] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Alright, have you checked to ensure your routers settings did not get messed up due to the power outage?
#126 [01:25] <Rivitingone> yeah I have those up too
#127 [01:25] <Rivitingone> showing all good
#128 [01:25] <Pythagorix> ???//
#129 [01:25] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Give me a moment
#130 [01:25] <Rivitingone> ok thanks
#131 [01:25] <almostroot> Pythagorix: Yes?
#132 [01:25] <Pythagorix> i was orgeooted about
#133 [01:25] <Pythagorix> okay shouw i continue or stop installatiiion of ati because it has not passed windows logo testing to verify compatibility with xp
#134 [01:25] <Pythagorix> ?
#135 [01:26] <almostroot> jimmy: From what I understand, some elements from newer versions will be available on old maps, but if you're not really attached, you may want to try a new one.
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#137 [01:26] <almostroot> Pythagorix: Continue.
#138 [01:26] <Ketsueki> Pythagorix: ATI/AMD made it; WHQL is expensive and your OS is highly outdated; if you downloaded it from AMD/ATI then yes, proceed.
#139 [01:26] <SADPERSON> HELLO?
#140 [01:26] <Pythagorix> okY
#141 [01:26] <Rivitingone> @ Ryladine brb < 2 minutes dog wants something upstairs
#142 [01:26] <almostroot> ??> SADPERSON dont/shout
#143 [01:27] <jimmy> almostroot: Ok thanks for your help :) cya.
#144 [01:27] <VoxelHead> SADPERSON: (dont/shout) There is no need to yell. The acoustics in here are wonderful.
#145 [01:27] <Rivitingone> back
#146 [01:28] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: The odd thing is I can't get any response at all from your network, it's not even responding to a simple ping, do you have any kind of advanced security enabled on your router?
#147 [01:30] <Pythagorix> urg computer restarts
#148 [01:30] <Rivitingone> Oh I meant to mention that I am in a secret undisclosed government bunker at an undisclosed location. :) Nope not that I am aware of. Odd thing is I can't connect via LAN either even though I can access the computer through the network.
#149 [01:30] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: You DID restart the server correct?
#150 [01:31] <Rivitingone> yeah I am looking at the gui. Same old info that it always display4es
#151 [01:31] <Rivitingone> I can connect actually I am connected
#152 [01:31] <almostroot> Rivitingone: Are you on the computer that hosts the server?
#153 [01:32] <Rivitingone> atm yes. The host machine is the one that can connect to the server. Others on the network cannot
#154 [01:32] <Rivitingone> try pinging the ip again
#155 [01:32] <Rivitingone> should go through this time
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#157 [01:32] <Rivitingone> had it set to block pings
#158 [01:33] <vertibro> Hi, I'm having trouble downloading minecraft, the launcher gets stuck at retrieving: Iwjgl.jar 11% Any ideas?
#159 [01:33] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: No, still nothing but it could be my connection to your server. Have you checked to make sure the internet is still running correctly on the host machine?
#160 [01:33] <Rivitingone> but I can ping my internal ip with my other system but it can't connect to the server on that same IP
#161 [01:33] <Rivitingone> I am on the host machine atm
#162 [01:34] <Rivitingone> so I assume it is good
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#164 [01:34] <almostroot> Rivitingone: Firewall issue on host machine is the only logical issue if internal machines cannot connect to it.
#165 [01:34] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Hm... Have you checked to make sure that all firewall exceptions still stand?
#166 [01:34] * Ryladine was beaten in the same answer again by almostroot
#166 [01:35] <Ryladine> Hello Thrae
#167 [01:35] <almostroot> Ryladine: Better than just being beaten by almostroot.
#168 [01:35] <Ryladine> True
#169 [01:35] <Rivitingone> the only firewal I have on atm is just my router. no software firewalls and the ports should be forwarded. They are displaying as forwarded at any rate
#170 [01:35] <Rivitingone> !check 68.185.171.160
#171 [01:35] <Rivitingone> hmm how do you work that?
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#173 [01:36] <Rivitingone> !check 68.185.171.160
#174 [01:36] <Ryladine> Thats a good question, I have never actually gotten on of AuBots responses to work for me
#175 [01:36] <Ryladine> :0
#176 [01:36] <Rivitingone> had a space at the begining
#177 [01:36] <Ryladine> lol
#178 [01:36] * mib_2jjk4i [mib_2jjk4i@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#179 [01:37] <mib_2jjk4i> hey do you guys know how to get rid of the grey screen when you start up minecraft
#180 [01:37] <mib_2jjk4i> ??
#181 [01:37] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: You say you have no firewalls enabled on the host machine, do you run any real-time virus protection?
#182 [01:38] <Ryladine> mib: which grey screen are you talking about?
#183 [01:38] <Pythagorix> i think ir
#184 [01:38] <Pythagorix> I think it worked?
#185 [01:39] <Pythagorix> i dont know why i put questionmark
#186 [01:39] <Rivitingone> yeah avast! but it hasn't been updated except for maybe the virus definitions and has been running long before I started tooling around with mincraft. I even tried deleting and restarting a brand new server in case it was an issue there
#187 [01:40] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Try disabling it, it's possible a sudden power-outage could cause it to malfunction.
#188 [01:40] <Rivitingone> hmm odd just did a port check online and got a closed result. Retooling router brb
#189 [01:42] <Rivitingone> !check 68.185.171.160
#190 [01:42] <Rivitingone> well how odd
#191 [01:42] <Rivitingone> I can ping mysewlf from network-tools.com
#192 [01:42] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Have you tried disalbing Avast?
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#194 [01:44] <Rivitingone> just did
#195 [01:44] <Rivitingone> !check 68.185.171.160
#196 [01:45] <Rivitingone> can anyone read this?
#197 [01:45] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Try hosting a server on a different machine, to see if it is your router, or the machine it's being hosted on.
#198 [01:45] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Yes
#199 [01:47] <Rivitingone> ok I'll give that a shot
#200 [01:48] <Rivitingone> something is screwy cuz as soon as I disables avast I lost connectivity with the ointernet in my web browser
#201 [01:48] <Rivitingone> can't load any pages
#202 [01:48] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Thats very odd....
#203 [01:49] <Rivitingone> yeah
#204 [01:49] <Rivitingone> that shouldn't happen lol
#205 [01:49] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Re-enable it, and check your internet settings, you may want to update it and scan the machine.
#206 [01:50] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: It's possible it got a virus that is causing all of the problems and avast was stopping it from effecting your browser.
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#208 [01:51] <Melvin> Hello, everyone o:
#209 [01:51] <Ryladine> Hello.
#210 [01:51] <Rivitingone> avast can't connect to the update server but I can still ping out and this is obviously still working
#211 [01:51] <Rivitingone> hi melvin
#212 [01:52] <Melvin> Okay, I just needed a second opinion on something very quickly
#213 [01:52] <fysics> ok
#214 [01:52] <fysics> and that would be?
#215 [01:52] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: This isn't what this topic is for, but it sounds to me like one of two things, hardware failure, or a virus. I suggest you get a good scanner and check just to be safe.
#216 [01:52] <Melvin> I'm having the login issue where it just says "Login Failed" when I attempt to log into the game, but my account on minecraft.net still works
#217 [01:52] <Rivitingone> router self diagnostic was good but I don't have connectivity on the other machines now... god hates me
#218 [01:52] <Melvin> is the only way to fix this really to uninstall minecraft and java?
#219 [01:53] <fysics> my second opinion is that sucks
#220 [01:53] <Melvin> yeah
#221 [01:53] <Melvin> and the only thread i found for it on the forums said i'd have to get rid of it all and start over
#222 [01:53] <fysics> you can just delete the bin folder in %appdata%/.minecraft/
#223 [01:53] <fysics> and then reinstall java
#224 [01:53] <fysics> and it won't delete your saved maps, etc
#225 [01:53] <Melvin> well, see, i'm running on a mac so how would i get to this appdata
#226 [01:53] <fysics> unless that's the issue
#227 [01:54] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Yeah, it really sound like hardware failure or a nasty virus... probably hardware failure but you can never be too careful, especially since it escalated after disabling AV software
#228 [01:54] <fysics> ugggg
#229 [01:54] <fysics> stupid macs
#230 [01:54] * Melvin hangs head
#230 [01:54] <Melvin> i know, i know
#231 [01:54] <fysics> i'm not sure
#232 [01:54] <almostroot> Melvin: Lion?
#233 [01:54] <fysics> umm
#234 [01:54] <Melvin> l-lion?
#235 [01:54] <almostroot> fysics: What your tongue. ;P
#236 [01:54] <almostroot> Melvin: What version of OS X are you using?
#237 [01:54] <almostroot> what/watch
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#239 [01:55] <Rivitingone> yeah... well the other system froze up and now just gives bios code beeps when I try to start it. You might want to stand on the other side of the room in case god decides to strike me with lightning
#240 [01:55] <fysics> the tutorials for installing mods to minecraft will have the directory of where minecraft is
#241 [01:55] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Yeah... that sounds... like the two things I already said lol
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#243 [01:56] <Melvin> well i know it's not lion, almostroot
#244 [01:56] <Rivitingone> ok well I'm rebooting this system. If I don't come back tell my wife I love her!
#245 [01:56] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Check the /msg first!
#246 [01:56] <Rivitingone> got it and wrote it down
#247 [01:56] <almostroot> Melvin: Either way, open Finder, click on the go Menu, look for Library, if it isn;t there, hold the Option key and it should appear. Once there, open Application Support and look for a folder called minecraft. minecraft.jar will be inside the bin directory.
#248 [01:57] <fysics> you'll want to delete the whole bin directory
#249 [01:57] <fysics> everything in there will be automatically replaced
#250 [01:58] <Melvin> does that get rid of my maps as well?
#251 [01:58] <almostroot> Melvin: Not if you only delete the bin fodler.
#252 [01:58] <almostroot> folder*
#253 [01:58] <Melvin> oohh okay
#254 [01:58] <Melvin> so i just deleted it all
#255 [01:58] <almostroot> Melvin: Run the launcher, let it update.
#256 [01:59] <Melvin> it's not updating
#257 [01:59] <Melvin> and now it says "play once online to play offline"
#258 [01:59] <almostroot> ??> Melvin mac/reinst/tool
#259 [01:59] <VoxelHead> Melvin: (mac/reinst/tool) Here is a helpful tool to purge the preinstalled files for you: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Minecraft_Reinstall.dmg
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#261 [02:02] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Welcome back
#262 [02:02] <Rivitingone> d
#263 [02:02] <Melvin> it's still doing the same thing, unfortunately
#264 [02:02] <Rivitingone> :p
#265 [02:02] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: The other system still dead?
#266 [02:02] <almostroot> Melvin: Completely close the app, then reopen it.
#267 [02:03] <Rivitingone> its booting up now
#268 [02:03] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Nice :)
#269 [02:03] <Rivitingone> just needed a rest?
#270 [02:03] <Melvin> I did
#271 [02:03] <almostroot> Melvin: And what exactly happens?
#272 [02:04] <Melvin> i put in my username and password, and then it tells me "login failed, play online once to enable offline"
#273 [02:04] <Melvin> so now I can't play it at all
#274 [02:04] * Ryladine shakes his head at computers supposedly "logical" machines that behave with no logic at all.
#274 [02:04] <almostroot> Melvin: You aren't sing OS X 10.5.8, are you?
#275 [02:04] <Rivitingone> !check 68.185.171.160
#276 [02:04] <Melvin> nope
#277 [02:04] <Melvin> 10.6.4
#278 [02:04] <Rivitingone> :(
#279 [02:05] <almostroot> Ryladine: Computers only do what they are told.
#280 [02:05] <Rivitingone> not this one. It has an evil mind
#281 [02:05] <almostroot> Ryladine: The problem is they do it exactly, to a destructive level.
#282 [02:05] <Ryladine> Lol, the problem is they tend to get instructions the operator doesn't know about. XD
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#284 [02:06] <almostroot> Ryladine: But are you really the operator if you just use software that others coded and created?
#285 [02:06] <Ryladine> Hmmm true.
#286 [02:06] <Ryladine> WE ARE ALL BEING USED!
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#288 [02:06] <almostroot> Maybe /you/ are.
#289 [02:06] <almostroot> Pshaw.
#290 [02:06] <|Kiikun|> computers originally were only usable by people able to speak the computer's language :P
#291 [02:06] <Melvin> i guess i can just try completely reinstalling it after backing up my maps
#292 [02:06] * Ryladine slaps ryladine "bad ryladine you know better than to shout"
#292 [02:06] * dalecannon puts his slap back mask on
#292 [02:07] * |Kiikun| drops dalecannon in a vat of whiped cream.... and sharks,
#292 [02:07] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Would you be against using teamviewer so I can get a look around and to see if I notice anything obvious that could be your problem?
#293 [02:07] <Keltinray> operator: a person who operates a machine, apparatus, or the like: a telegraph operator.
#294 [02:07] <Ryladine> Btw, Hai kii
#295 [02:07] <Keltinray> So, yes.
#296 [02:07] <|Kiikun|> hi ry :P
#297 [02:07] <Ryladine> I gots a + now too, still have no idea what it means though :)
#298 [02:08] <Rivitingone> nope not at all let me try this rq though have server running on other machine
#299 [02:08] <Melvin> oh hey
#300 [02:08] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Alright, when your ready do you know how to use it?
#301 [02:08] <Melvin> that appears to be doing something right
#302 [02:08] <Melvin> it's updating, at least
#303 [02:08] <|Kiikun|> Keltinray: i'd put it more than the Operating System is the operator. the person at the computer is the user.
#304 [02:08] <Ryladine> Yes... That does sound more correct kii
#305 [02:09] <Keltinray> The operating system is just the system that makes operating the machine possible.
#306 [02:09] <Keltinray> The user is still the operator.
#307 [02:09] <Melvin> aw yes it worked!
#308 [02:09] <Melvin> okay, thank you for your help, guys
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#310 [02:10] <Ryladine> :0 thats a new one, a remost host closed the connection?
#311 [02:10] <Rivitingone> ok rel I'm all yours
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#313 [02:11] <Rivitingone> ryl
#314 [02:11] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Do you know how to use teamviewer?
#315 [02:11] <Rivitingone> nope
#316 [02:11] <Ryladine> ??> Rivitingone teamviewer
#317 [02:11] <dalecannon> ryl
#318 [02:11] <VoxelHead> Rivitingone: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#319 [02:11] <VoxelHead> Rivitingone: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#320 [02:11] <dalecannon> if thats to hard
#321 [02:11] <dalecannon> use ammyid
#322 [02:11] <dalecannon> so simple
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#324 [02:12] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: You do not have to isntall it, just download it, start the installer, and select run without isntalling
#325 [02:12] <Ryladine> Rivitingone: Then /msg the username and password
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#328 [02:15] <|Kiikun|> o.o;
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#330 [02:15] * dalecannon doesnt like whipped cream, like sharks :)
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#331 [02:17] <Ryladine> Hamachi has been causing hosting issues right? Even when it's not running?
#332 [02:18] <almostroot> ?? fubar/hamachi
#333 [02:18] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#334 [02:18] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
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#336 [02:24] <Ryladine> Alright, because we were using /msg (so we didn't spam here) you lot didn't see Rivitingone's solution, so here it is. He forgot to ensure his internal IP did not change after a power outage.
#337 [02:25] <Ryladine> Simply running ipconfig showed him his error and he was able to re-portforward.
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#339 [02:26] <almostroot> Should do either static ip address assignment or manual dhcp assignment.
#340 [02:27] <Ryladine> Yeah, always the best solution.
#341 [02:27] <Rivitingone> difficulty=1 in settings for a server sets the difficulty to easy?
#342 [02:28] <Rivitingone> reason I ask is that as of the 1.8 release it is not uncommen to be chased by 5 creepers at a time
#343 [02:28] <Rivitingone> uncommon*
#344 [02:28] <Ryladine> Anyone besides Rivitingone need MC help?
#345 [02:29] <Rivitingone> lol ryl fixed me so I get no love
#346 [02:29] <Ryladine> lol
#347 [02:29] <Ryladine> I just don't know the answer to that one XD
#348 [02:30] <Rivitingone> also view-distance=10 in the server settings? Whats that for? I suppose I should just go read some documentation assuming I can find it
#349 [02:30] <|Kiikun|> almostroot: im partial to dhcp assignment :P
#350 [02:30] <dalecannon> its view distance on server
#351 [02:30] <Ryladine> Google FTW
#352 [02:30] <Ryladine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#353 [02:30] <Rivitingone> so like the max or is it a forced distance?
#354 [02:30] <almostroot> |Kiikun|: As am I. We just migrated all of our public-facing servers to dhcp assignment.
#355 [02:30] <dalecannon> yeah its all on wiki
#356 [02:30] <Ryladine> Rivitington : http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#357 [02:30] <Rivitingone> yeah loading that now lol
#358 [02:31] <Rivitingone> just tell me to stop being lazy
#359 [02:31] <dalecannon> you really need not ask
#360 [02:31] <Ryladine> Almost whats the difference? I know how to set it, but I've never known there was something they were called XD
#361 [02:31] <dalecannon> can setup a server from wiki in no time flat
#362 [02:32] <dalecannon> thought the nogui bug via ssh starting a server is annoying
#363 [02:32] <dalecannon> doesnt go into background process
#364 [02:32] <dalecannon> stays linked to terminal window
#365 [02:32] <almostroot> Ryladine: Static means the IP address is set by the physical machine. DHCP assignment means that the device that hands out IP addresses has a special reservation for your network card for a particular IP, so whenever your device requests an IP, it always gets the same one.
#366 [02:32] <almostroot> dalecannon: Using Linux? Look into screen.
#367 [02:33] <Ryladine> Ah, didn't realize I could do it the second way.
#368 [02:34] <almostroot> Ryladine: Burried in most router settings, but in the server world with virtualization, it's a godsend. Migrated 40 physical servers to a ESXi cluster on three machines over the last week. Would have been a nightmare.
#369 [02:34] <dalecannon> almostroot you use session managment to get around this ?
#370 [02:34] <Rivitingone> ok so correct me if I'm wrong but the view-distance value is like a server side client override of the max view distance? ie even if a client had his machine set to FAR if I had view-distance=1 he could only see a maximum of 1 chunk.
#371 [02:35] <rymate1234> ye
#372 [02:35] <rymate1234> s
#373 [02:35] <Rivitingone> groovy
#374 [02:35] <Ryladine> :0 You got me looking and there are three devices I can't identify connected to my router....
#375 [02:35] <Ryladine> lol
#376 [02:35] <almostroot> dalecannon: Screen separates the session from the terminal (or pseudo terminal) device.
#377 [02:36] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: got consoles?
#378 [02:36] <dalecannon> yeah session managment.
#379 [02:36] <Ryladine> kii: Yeah, one, but I have that one named. XD
#380 [02:36] <Rivitingone> non monster animals are persistant now correct?
#381 [02:36] <dalecannon> does it put in in background then, essentially?
#382 [02:36] <Rivitingone> ie cows chickens etc
#383 [02:37] <Ryladine> :o Ah! It's not refreshed in some time... I just realized three of those devices are machines that aren't on my network anymore lol
#384 [02:37] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: if you really cant identify who's connected... you can mac-lock your wifi ^^ (only allow authorized mac addresses to conect)
#385 [02:37] <Rivitingone> haha
#386 [02:37] <Rivitingone> been there
#387 [02:37] <almostroot> dalecannon: ssh user@host "screen -dMS minecraftserver java -XMX 2048 -XMS1024 -jar /path/to/server/directory/minecraft_server.jar nogui"
#388 [02:37] <Ryladine> Yeah, I've done that before kii, too lazy to keep it up though lol
#389 [02:37] <dalecannon> thanks almostroot
#390 [02:38] <dalecannon> i obv dont use screen much
#391 [02:38] <almostroot> dalecannon: To resume, log in, screen -r minecraftserver
#392 [02:38] <Ryladine> Odd thing is that they aren't disapearing when I refresh it... Meh lol
#393 [02:38] <dalecannon> almostroot have you found this the only way to start the server remotely via ssh?
#394 [02:38] <rymate1234> screen <3
#395 [02:38] <almostroot> dalecannon: I use an init script to handle it all for me.
#396 [02:38] <dalecannon> i saw the init script on wiki
#397 [02:39] <dalecannon> havnt messed with it yet
#398 [02:39] <almostroot> dalecannon: Mine is much more customized.
#399 [02:39] <dalecannon> or wrote my own
#400 [02:39] <dalecannon> was going to say
#401 [02:39] <dalecannon> the one seemed very simple
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#403 [02:41] <Ryladine> Anyone else need help with MC?
#404 [02:41] * |Kiikun| just got up after passing out at arounf 4pm
#404 [02:41] <rymate1234> my script is java -xmx 1024M -xms 1024M -jar craftbukkit.jar
#405 [02:41] <Ryladine> lol
#406 [02:41] <rymate1234> :3
#407 [02:41] <almostroot> dalecannon: For stock scripts, I like the layout of this one a little more: https://mcshellscript.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/mcshellscript/trunk/minecraft_server
#408 [02:41] <dalecannon> thanks mate
#409 [02:42] <rymate1234> O_o
#410 [02:42] <almostroot> Close to how I script myself.
#411 [02:42] <Ryladine> Anyone else need help with MC before I head off??
#412 [02:43] * Ryladine was hoping someone would say yes so he would have a reason to stay up
#412 [02:43] <Ryladine> lol
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#414 [02:43] <Ryladine> Cya guys.
#415 [02:43] <almostroot> dalecannon: Here is the appropriate forum thread: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/121830-multi-world-linux-minecraft-server-control-script/
#416 [02:43] <dalecannon> thankyou
#417 [02:44] <Ryladine|Bed> Stupid commands never run the first time...
#418 [02:44] <rymate1234> i need help with 1.10!!!
#419 [02:44] <rymate1234> it no work! i downloaded it and ran it but it makes an error
#420 [02:44] <rymate1234> dalecannon: y u ping ,e
#421 [02:44] <dalecannon> cause you like me
#422 [02:44] <dalecannon> 0_o
#423 [02:45] <almostroot> kick rymate1234 Y u no speak English?
#424 [02:45] <almostroot> ;P
#425 [02:45] <Ryladine|Bed> lol
#426 [02:45] <dalecannon> haha
#427 [02:45] <Ryladine|Bed> Now, I'm off for real before I die of exposure to bad grammar.
#428 [02:45] <Ryladine|Bed> XD
#429 [02:46] <|Kiikun|> nani!?
#430 [02:47] <rymate1234> meh i gotta go
#431 [02:47] <rymate1234> bai
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#438 [03:03] <chunkypb> when i load my game minecraft i get a black screen, can anybody help?
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#440 [03:07] <|Kiikun|> chunkypb: did you mod the game or install any texture packs?
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#442 [03:08] <chunkypb> nope but when i load my save the minecraft screen goes black
#443 [03:09] <|Kiikun|> ok.. so its only when you select a world? have you tried a different world?
#444 [03:10] <chunkypb> yup i created a new world and it loads but when the game should pop up it goes black
#445 [03:11] <|Kiikun|> chunkypb: ah. hmm...
#446 [03:12] <|Kiikun|> ??> chunkypb forceupdate
#447 [03:12] <VoxelHead> chunkypb: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#448 [03:12] <VoxelHead> chunkypb: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#449 [03:12] <chunkypb> ok ill try that
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#451 [03:13] <gretchen> Does anyone know the nature in which a server saves?
#452 [03:14] <gretchen> Is anyone here at all?
#453 [03:15] <chunkypb> My screen went black again, flicked white and then went black again.
#454 [03:16] <|Kiikun|> chunkypb: ok.. try updating java next. www.java.com
#455 [03:16] <|Kiikun|> gretchen: you mean where a server saves its worlds?
#456 [03:17] <gretchen> Yes. I have it set to the auto save thing, but I've also forced a few saves. I'm interested in trying to recover a slightly older version of the world.
#457 [03:17] <|Kiikun|> gretchen: unless you actively backed up the world.. there is no way to revert short of using mcedit to delete chunks and regenerate them
#458 [03:18] <gretchen> I don't think that would resolve the issue. We had some vandalism that I was interested in reverting.
#459 [03:18] <|Kiikun|> gretchen: forced save and autosave just dake the world from memory and writes it down to the disk
#460 [03:20] <|Kiikun|> gretchen: as i said. unless you actively back up the world (copied the world folder somewhere) then there are no backups
#461 [03:20] <chunkypb> I have to restart my computer for the update, be back soon. :)
#462 [03:20] <gretchen> How do I do that, so I can fix vandalism issues in the future? Is there a way to set it up so, say, it backed itself up everyday?
#463 [03:22] <|Kiikun|> gretchen: google around for it.
#464 [03:23] <gretchen> Well thanks anyway, have a nice night.
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#469 [03:34] <chunkypb> My minecraft shows a black skreen when i load the game save
#470 [03:35] <|Kiikun|> still... hmm...
#471 [03:36] <chunkypb> i downloaded the most up to date download for java
#472 [03:36] <|Kiikun|> chunkypb: ok.. you on windows?
#473 [03:36] <chunkypb> mac
#474 [03:36] <|Kiikun|> oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#475 [03:36] <|Kiikun|> shadup vox
#476 [03:37] <|Kiikun|> ok... you on 10.5.8?
#477 [03:37] <|Kiikun|> chunkypb: you on mac os x 10.5.8?
#478 [03:38] <chunkypb> where do i find that
#479 [03:40] <|Kiikun|> um... ^^;; dunno. what animal is your os x called?
#480 [03:40] <chunkypb> ?
#481 [03:40] <|Kiikun|> lion, leaopard
#482 [03:40] <chunkypb> leopard
#483 [03:40] <|Kiikun|> ok.. yeah your probably 10.5.8
#484 [03:41] <dalecannon> silly
#485 [03:41] <chunkypb> :D
#486 [03:41] <dalecannon> my ubuntu beats your leopard and lion
#487 [03:41] * |Kiikun| DOESNT KNOW MACS!
#487 [03:41] <dalecannon> hes not compatible kiikun
#488 [03:41] <|Kiikun|> chunkypb: ok 10.5.8 doesnt have support for something minecraft needs. theres two ways yo fix this.
#489 [03:41] <dalecannon> and lol at "<+|Kiikun|> um... ^^;; dunno. what animal is your os x called?"
#490 [03:42] <|Kiikun|> chunkypb: a mod that alters 1.8 downward so it can run... or you can try the 1.9 prerelease which fixes it.
#491 [03:43] <|Kiikun|> chunkypb: 1.9.pr is BUGGY.
#492 [03:43] <chunkypb> how do i get pre release mine is 1.8.1
#493 [03:43] <|Kiikun|> ??> chunkypb mac/10.5.8
#494 [03:43] <VoxelHead> chunkypb: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#495 [03:43] <VoxelHead> chunkypb: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#496 [03:43] <|Kiikun|> chunkypb: you can find the prerelease on the forums.
#497 [03:44] <|Kiikun|> chunkypb: just please not, we will not provide support for the prerelease.
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#500 [03:45] <ircleuser> lo
#501 [03:46] <chunkypb> thanks for vid it is my problem
#502 [03:46] <eprom808> lo again. heh
#503 [03:46] <|Kiikun|> chunkypb: yup :P its a known prob.
#504 [03:46] <|Kiikun|> eprom808: hi :P
#505 [03:46] <|Kiikun|> Thrae: HI! *ties to chair*
#506 [03:46] <eprom808> i am having trouble logging in to the mc client
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#508 [03:47] <|Kiikun|> eprom808: whats the error it gives?
#509 [03:47] <eprom808> i'm on OS X. 1.7.3.
#510 [03:47] <eprom808> Login Failed.
#511 [03:47] <eprom808> been logging in just fine up until now
#512 [03:48] <|Kiikun|> eprom808: 1.7.3? you mean minecraft or mac os x 10.7.3? (doesnt even know if thats the most current version)
#513 [03:48] <|Kiikun|> eprom808: wait.. redownload the client from minecraft.net
#514 [03:49] <eprom808> minecraft 1.7.3. os x snow leopard 10.6.3
#515 [03:49] <eprom808> orly
#516 [03:49] <eprom808> k
#517 [03:50] <|Kiikun|> eprom808: the login servers no longer like the old client. the fact you havent updated from 1.7.3 yet makes me think your still on the old (newsless) client
#518 [03:51] <eprom808> lol ok. notch fael
#519 [03:51] <eprom808> thx tho
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#521 [03:53] <helpserver> Anyone around to help right now?
#522 [03:54] <|Kiikun|> eh.. sure. im here
#523 [03:55] <helpserver> I have a problem with my server properties file
#524 [03:55] <|Kiikun|> ??> helpserver pastebin
#525 [03:55] <VoxelHead> helpserver: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#526 [03:55] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: put the contents of your proerties file there
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#528 [03:56] <|Kiikun|> ill give it a onceover
#529 [03:56] <helpserver> That's not the issue, I don't think.
#530 [03:56] <|Kiikun|> um....
#531 [03:56] <helpserver> The problem is it's no longer saved as a text document, like the other files in the server folder.
#532 [03:56] <helpserver> I think. Unless it's not supposed to be.
#533 [03:56] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: you running a 1.9 server? havent tried that out yet..
#534 [03:57] <helpserver> I am running a 1.8.1 unless it self updated.
#535 [03:57] <|Kiikun|> the filename is server.properties, its plain text
#536 [03:57] <|Kiikun|> just opne it in notepad or something
#537 [03:57] <Berixxa> is there a way to fix the "autowalk" problem?
#538 [03:58] <|Kiikun|> Berixxa: linux?
#539 [03:58] <Berixxa> win 7
#540 [03:59] <helpserver> It's still saving as a "PROPERTIES file" instead of a plain text file, I open it in notepad, but it won't let me replace the file type.
#541 [03:59] <|Kiikun|> Berixxa: just tap the 'stuck' key and it should fix itself.
#542 [04:00] <Berixxa> is it fixed then or do i have to tap it everytime he starts to walk his own way +
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#544 [04:00] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: yeah thats right. it HAS to be a properties file. its contents is plain text, but it must be na,ed server.properties
#545 [04:00] <helpserver> It's contents are a wordpad file, you know, fancy microsoft shit. I figured that while things like the message of the day aren't registering. As well as OP commands.
#546 [04:01] <helpserver> thats why*
#547 [04:01] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: the properties file doesnt change who is or isnt an op <.<
#548 [04:01] <helpserver> That is not what I was saying. I am saying the commands do not work.
#549 [04:01] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: also.. if your openign it in wordpad, and giving it formatting, your most likely not saving it back as plain text.
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#552 [04:03] <|Kiikun|> Berixxa: does this happen ALOT?
#553 [04:05] <helpserver> I still cannot get the message of the day to work, which leads me to believe that everything about that particular file is still broken.
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#555 [04:07] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: theres nothing wrong with the files... im seeing a pebcak here.
#556 [04:08] <helpserver> pebcake?
#557 [04:08] <helpserver> cak*
#558 [04:10] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: youre opening a plain text file in a rich text editor, probably SAVING it as rich text, and claiming its broken.
#559 [04:11] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: and.. incase you ARNENT saving it as rich text... this is the proper format of server.properties http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#560 [04:12] <helpserver> I select the file in question, I have tried opening it both with notepad, and -just- double clicking it. Double clicking it opens the rich text editor instead of just a note pad. I have tired, in both circumstances, clicking save as and selecting "plain text". It askes me then if I want to replace the already existing file of the same name, and I say yes.
#561 [04:12] <helpserver> Nothing changes either way.
#562 [04:13] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: you probably told it, at some point, to open the file in wordpad and told windows that .properties files = wordpad. and nothing changes in the file when you save it?
#563 [04:14] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: there doesnt happen to be another file called server.properties.txt next to it?
#564 [04:16] <helpserver> There are two files named server in the folder, one is just a txt document, and it doesn't contain the message of the day and the other settings, it has just a shit load of text that I could use that thing you linked to show you
#565 [04:17] <|Kiikun|> thats server.log
#566 [04:17] <|Kiikun|> first line is probably 2011-09-18 22:56:05 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.8.1
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#568 [04:18] <helpserver> Yes thats what it is. But both the file I have been having trouble with and that log share the exact same name, just "server"
#569 [04:18] <|Kiikun|> the other server file has to be server.properties
#570 [04:20] <helpserver> I just tried to save it and change it's name to .properties, the name didn't change and the message of the day still does not work
#571 [04:21] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: thats because you told windows that .properties files are yo be used by wordpad. and windows default settings HIDES known extentions
#572 [04:21] <helpserver> So I have to tell windows that .properties files should not be used by wordpad?
#573 [04:22] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: if you dont want to paste the contents of your server.properties file, like i asked at first, onto pastebin... then im done
#574 [04:22] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: that doesnt matter. it only matters if your saving the file as rich text or plain text.
#575 [04:23] <helpserver> I keep telling it to save as plain text. I will use your pastebin thing now, please stop being irritated and rude about me not understanding as much stuff as you.
#576 [04:24] <helpserver> http://pastebin.com/EteQh4iz
#577 [04:24] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: im being irritaded because you we saying "i dont wanna paste it! its broken!" ~.~
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#579 [04:26] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: ok.. so long as thats saved it should show 'hi' to anyone that logs in.
#580 [04:27] <helpserver> It does not. Unless because I am the server host I don't see it.
#581 [04:27] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: is the server running right now?
#582 [04:28] <helpserver> Right now because I have been trying to test it. I have tried saving the file with the server on and off, just in case the server being on prevented the necessary changes.
#583 [04:28] <Berixxa> tryed a stuck key fix kiikun but it didnt solve the problem
#584 [04:28] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: did you restart the server after changing it?
#585 [04:29] <helpserver> Yes.
#586 [04:29] <almostroot> helpserver: turn off the server, make the changes, start the server. Only open with file in Notepad. Try using Save As and ensuring it is names server.properties with no other extensions and it's save as either No File or Plain Text .
#587 [04:29] <|Kiikun|> almostroot: *clings* ;__;
#588 [04:30] <almostroot> helpserver: Make sure that file is in the same folder as your minecraft server application.
#589 [04:30] <almostroot> |Kiikun|: There there. It's okay.
#590 [04:31] * almostroot sucks at this comforting thing...
#590 [04:31] <helpserver> It is in the same file, I just did as you asked, the message of the day still does not work.
#591 [04:31] <almostroot> helpserver: When you add the server to the server list in the new launcher, below the name, do you see your MOTD?
#592 [04:31] <|Kiikun|> oh... derp... *bangs head*
#593 [04:32] <helpserver> No I do not.
#594 [04:32] * |Kiikun| sees 'A Minecraft Server'
#594 [04:32] <Berixxa> rofl
#595 [04:32] * |Kiikun| camps.
#595 [04:33] <almostroot> helpserver: Then you've doing something wrong. No idea what it is. Setting the MOTD is as easy as changing that line.
#596 [04:33] <Berixxa> while ur camping, you can enlight me with some "captain obvious" stuff about my autowalk
#597 [04:33] <|Kiikun|> almostroot: thats exactly why ive been banging my head while helping them x.x
#598 [04:33] <helpserver> Well like Kiikun said, It's supposed to be a notepad thing but my computer won't let me change it from wordpad.
#599 [04:34] <helpserver> I feel like that is the problem, though obviously I do not know.
#600 [04:34] <Berixxa> shut the server and fix it from notepad then save it..
#601 [04:34] <|Kiikun|> Berixxa: does your comp 'lagspike' right before you get stuck?
#602 [04:35] <Berixxa> kinda, the image freezes for 0.1 sec and then he starts to run
#603 [04:35] <almostroot> helpserver: Open Notepad front the start menu, then click on File, then click on Open, find your server.properties file, make sure it is in the correct location, use Save As and ensure it is named server.properties with no other extensions and that it is saved as All File.
#604 [04:35] <|Kiikun|> Berixxa: yeah i was getting that a bit in my testing ages
#605 [04:36] <|Kiikun|> almostroot: ok.. i saw the server close.. and it still giving the 'a minecraft server'
#606 [04:36] <|Kiikun|> . . . why am i suddenly getting the feeling that helpserver has an ! in his windows username?
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#608 [04:36] <Berixxa> sometimes it feels like a background program that makes it autowalk
#609 [04:36] <almostroot> |Kiikun|: Their server? I have a feeling it's an Indigo Tango 10 Tango error.
#610 [04:37] <almostroot> Indigo Delta*
#611 [04:37] <|Kiikun|> almostroot: agreed.
#612 [04:38] <helpserver> Please stop being shitty to me Kiikun. I'm doing everything you ask me to and I just want help. And I don't even know my windows username. =.=
#613 [04:38] <|Kiikun|> Berixxa: its the game 'twitching' and missing you releasing the key.
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#615 [04:39] <almostroot> ??> helpserver attitude
#616 [04:39] <VoxelHead> helpserver: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#617 [04:39] <VoxelHead> helpserver: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#618 [04:39] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: that was actually a common error for singleplayer. ! in windows usernames breaks JAVA.
#619 [04:39] <|Kiikun|> minecraft and the server run on java
#620 [04:40] <Berixxa> anyway to fix it or do i have to live with it ?
#621 [04:40] <helpserver> Almostroot I have never said anything bad to him, but he keeps belittling me. I don't mean any disrespect when I ask him to chill.
#622 [04:40] <helpserver> Where can I check my windows user name?
#623 [04:40] <|Kiikun|> Berixxa: it doesnt happen alot for me... so i never actually went for a fix.. but you can try updating LWJGL... *looks for link*
#624 [04:40] <almostroot> helpserver: You're dealing with the graveyard shift, have a sense of humor. It obviously works for other people's servers, so it's an issue on your side. Can;t blame anyone but yourself.
#625 [04:41] <almostroot> helpserver: It's the name you log into your computer with. Same as your home directory.
#626 [04:41] <helpserver> I'm not blaming anyone. But I am not going to be able to fix this myself either.
#627 [04:41] <Berixxa> thats what i tryed, but i guess i can try some differnt versions of the lwjgl fixes
#628 [04:42] <Berixxa> i tryed the 2.7.1
#629 [04:42] <|Kiikun|> Berixxa: ok. the cause of the 'twitch' is usually other background programs suddenly requesting more processes (like antivirus starting scanning)
#630 [04:43] <|Kiikun|> Berixxa: also.. try updating java
#631 [04:44] <Berixxa> i guess some of the issue is pvp tool running in background, but i can try a update of the java aswell
#632 [04:44] <helpserver> My windows user name is "Spencer"
#633 [04:45] <almostroot> helpserver: Last resort, make a full backup of your minecraft server, shut it down, delete server.properties, start it up, shut it down and verify a new file was made, open Notepad, navigate to the directory, edit the file, it normally, not Save As, and start your server.
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#635 [04:45] <almostroot> save it normally*
#636 [04:46] * |Kiikun| goes back to filling out the court appearance forms...
#636 [04:46] <helpserver> Oi that's a lot, okay okay, so, should I just copy the "Minecraft Server" folder for the back up?
#637 [04:46] <almostroot> helpserver: That's one way to do it.
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#640 [04:47] <helpserver> Okay that's step one. Now the server is already off so you want me to just straight up delete the file I've been having problems with? then what?
#641 [04:50] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: start the server, then close it again. that will generate a new default file
#642 [04:51] <helpserver> I deleted server.properties and then opened and closed the server, a new file did not appear in the folder.
#643 [04:52] * |Kiikun| blinks
#643 [04:52] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: go up a folder, then back into it
#644 [04:52] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: still not showing up?
#645 [04:53] <helpserver> I can't go up a folder, but I did close and re-open it several times
#646 [04:54] <helpserver> On a windows computer, what does the tiny blue box in the lower left a file icon mean? The boxes are on the files in the original folder, but not in the copy I made as a backup. Is that significant?
#647 [04:54] <dalecannon> they should of taught kids linux
#648 [04:54] <dalecannon> before all the windows and mac shit
#649 [04:54] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: ok i have this neaking suspicion that its putting the files somewhere else... which is what the refwerence to the ! was about
#650 [04:54] <dalecannon> knowledge of a command prompt is paramount
#651 [04:55] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: the little box with an arrow = shortcut
#652 [04:56] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: if you wanna give teamviewer a shot in a bit i can go and check it all out. just gimme a few minutes to finish filling out these court papers :/
#653 [04:56] <dalecannon> dui?
#654 [04:56] <helpserver> Yeah I used teamviewer with GreyVulpine to create the server in the first place.
#655 [04:57] <|Kiikun|> hartford hospital is suing me for 6 grand... and my insurance hasnt paid yet.
#656 [04:57] <dalecannon> oh my bad man
#657 [04:57] <dalecannon> didnt mean to make light
#658 [04:57] <helpserver> I am terribly sorry to hear that.
#659 [04:57] <dalecannon> shit like that pisses me off
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#661 [04:57] <|Kiikun|> sokay. theres some massive stupidity going on somewhere and its not entirely my fault
#662 [04:57] <dalecannon> im on vet benefits and they dont pay for shit
#663 [04:58] <|Kiikun|> either my ins is mailing somwere else.. someones droppign the paperwork.. or hartford is full of retards
#664 [04:58] <dalecannon> kii
#665 [04:58] <dalecannon> they promoised me a carbon fiber leg brace/support
#666 [04:58] <dalecannon> said it was payed for, got it
#667 [04:58] <dalecannon> wore it got used to it for 9 months
#668 [04:58] <helpserver> Then they charged you?
#669 [04:58] <dalecannon> then got a bill for 27 grand
#670 [04:59] <|Kiikun|> dalecannon: ouch...
#671 [04:59] <dalecannon> had to hire a lawyer
#672 [04:59] <dalecannon> he worked it out cost me part of my money i earned during my tour though
#673 [04:59] <dalecannon> was bullshit
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#675 [04:59] <dalecannon> like 2k court costs
#676 [05:00] <dalecannon> <-- used to be a .mil slut
#677 [05:00] <dalecannon> not anymore
#678 [05:02] <SinZ> SinZBot ftw
#679 [05:04] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: ok... form printing... msg me your id and pass?
#680 [05:04] <|Kiikun|> dalecannon: and ouch...
#681 [05:05] <helpserver> Alright
#682 [05:06] * |Kiikun| kicks printer for running out of ink :/
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#683 [05:12] <|Kiikun|> ok :3
#684 [05:13] <|Kiikun|> you need to put any updated server exes into the server folder.
#685 [05:13] <|Kiikun|> running it from the desktop was putting all the files ON the desktop.
#686 [05:13] <|Kiikun|> the shortcut i put after moving it lets the server run in its folder, keeping it all contained
#687 [05:14] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: ^
#688 [05:14] <helpserver> Thank you
#689 [05:14] <helpserver> A lot
#690 [05:14] <|Kiikun|> no prob :3
#691 [05:14] <helpserver> Good luck with your court stuff
#692 [05:14] <|Kiikun|> yeah im hoping they dont garnish my wages since its all paperwork snafus and im actually making payments now
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#694 [05:15] <helpserver> I don't know anything about the court system except it sucks to have to use it for anything.
#695 [05:15] <helpserver> Enjoy your night, bye bye!
#696 [05:15] <|Kiikun|> night!
#697 [05:15] <|Kiikun|> vox!
#698 [05:15] <|Kiikun|> VoxelHead: eat Nair & Levin
#699 [05:15] <|Kiikun|> .... aw.
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#701 [05:19] * |Kiikun| starts scanning paperwork.
#701 [05:20] <helpserver> Kiikun
#702 [05:20] <helpserver> I spoke too soon.
#703 [05:21] <|Kiikun|> hmm?
#704 [05:21] <helpserver> Something we did changed the actual world file.
#705 [05:21] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: delete the world folder IN the server folder. then move the world folder from your desktop into the server folder
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#707 [05:22] <|Kiikun|> helpserver: alos. look for other server files on your desktop and move them in there too
#708 [05:23] <|Kiikun|> oh and make sure the server's close when you do this
#709 [05:24] <Heeverlikeaboss> can someone please tell me what to do, when i try to run minecraft it pops up with a "Fatal exception occured. program will exit" under a Java Virtual machine Launcher box
#710 [05:24] <|Kiikun|> Heeverlikeaboss: update or reinstall java first
#711 [05:24] <helpserver> Kiikun, all fixed, thanks a lot again
#712 [05:25] <|Kiikun|> :3
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#715 [05:30] <Heeverlikeaboss> is there anything spesific about java i need to reinstall because i cant seem to find it...
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#717 [05:30] <|Kiikun|> . . .
#718 [05:31] <|Kiikun|> Heeverlikeaboss: what OS?
#719 [05:31] <|Kiikun|> Heeverlikeaboss: also, have you installed any mods?
#720 [05:31] <Heeverlikeaboss> os?
#721 [05:31] <Heeverlikeaboss> no
#722 [05:32] <|Kiikun|> Heeverlikeaboss: windows, mac, linux, niddhog, or magical-lunar?
#723 [05:33] <Heeverlikeaboss> windows.
#724 [05:33] <|Kiikun|> Heeverlikeaboss: press win+r and type appwiz.cpl
#725 [05:34] <|Kiikun|> Heeverlikeaboss: in the windows that opens, select all Java(TM)s and uninstall them.
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#727 [05:35] <|Kiikun|> Heeverlikeaboss: then once thats done, go to www.java.com and install the latest version (java 6 update 27)
#728 [05:35] <Heeverlikeaboss> ok thanks
#729 [05:41] <SinZ> `mcping c.mca.d3s.co
#730 [05:41] <SinZBot> The MOTD for c.mca.d3s.co is
#731 [05:41] <SinZ> oright
#732 [05:41] <SinZ> no default port
#733 [05:41] <SinZ> `mcping c.mca.d3s.co 25565
#734 [05:41] <SinZBot> The MOTD for c.mca.d3s.co is MCA Creative
#735 [05:41] <SinZ> ^.^
#736 [05:43] <|Kiikun|> `mcping kiichan.is-a-geek.net 25565
#737 [05:43] <SinZBot> The MOTD for kiichan.is-a-geek.net is World of Sennyo
#738 [05:43] <|Kiikun|> :P
#739 [05:44] <|Kiikun|> um... whats the random first character for?
#740 [05:44] <SinZ> no idea
#741 [05:44] <|Kiikun|> fix yer bot!!!!
#742 [05:44] <|Kiikun|> :P
#743 [05:44] <SinZ> something in the packet that I haven'
#744 [05:44] <SinZ> haven
#745 [05:44] <SinZ> haven't cleaned
#746 [05:49] <SinZ> hmm, knowing the unicode for it would help
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#753 [06:27] <Guest41677> Hello there, anyone knows what I can do, if my game keeps telling me "can't connec to minecraft.net" or "login failed" ?
#754 [06:28] <Guest41677> I googled and looked at forums but it seems like nobody really knows whats the issue x.x
#755 [06:29] <Guest41677> my sister is able to connect with Windows 7 just fine, so whats wrong with Windows Vista..
#756 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> Nothing's wrong with Windows Vista
#757 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> What is the exact error you get? Login Failed means either your launcher is out of date, or your username/password is being entered wrong
#758 [06:30] <GreyVulpine> Can't connect to minecraft.net means your launcher is unable to connect to minecraft.net's authentication/login server
#759 [06:31] <Guest41677> it never is.. I keep trying to login again and it never worked
#760 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> What is the error you're getting right now?
#761 [06:31] <Guest41677> "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#762 [06:31] <Guest41677> the error it gives me all the time
#763 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> Please pull up in your browser, https://login.minecraft.net -- Do you see "Bad login" there?
#764 [06:32] <Guest41677> viewing this link gives me a error
#765 [06:32] <Guest41677> ssl_error_rx_record_too_long
#766 [06:33] <Guest41677> the error code it tells me
#767 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> What in the...
#768 [06:33] <Guest41677> I wish I knew.. Ima ask google
#769 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to pull up minecraft.net in the browser?
#770 [06:34] <SinZ> ssl dns too long?!
#771 [06:34] <SinZ> wtf
#772 [06:34] <Guest41677> oh google says that happens w firefox
#773 [06:34] <Guest41677> lemme open it w a div browser
#774 [06:34] <SinZ> what browser Guest41677
#775 [06:34] <SinZ> o
#776 [06:35] <Guest41677> my firefox hates me these days =.= sec
#777 [06:35] <Guest41677> Chrome says Error 107 (net::ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR)
#778 [06:35] <Guest41677> o.o ...
#779 [06:35] <SinZ> port 443 might be blocked outbound
#780 [06:36] <Guest41677> I red about port forwarding, but I dont know the login for my router
#781 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Guest41677 - Are you running any sort of security software?
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#783 [06:36] <Guest41677> I got Norton
#784 [06:36] <Guest41677> well and the windows firewall
#785 [06:36] <Nap> Can anyone help me with setting up BigBrother?
#786 [06:36] <SinZ> windows firewall is disabled if you use norton
#787 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> Well, hmm. let's start with the basics first Guest41677
#788 [06:37] <Guest41677> it says it was activated o.o
#789 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> Nap - Bukkit issues go in #bukkit
#790 [06:37] <Guest41677> Im listening
#791 [06:37] <SinZ> what lanuage is GreyBot in?
#792 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> Guest41677 - Does your windows usename happen to contain a ! mark in it?
#793 [06:37] <SinZ> language*
#794 [06:37] <Guest41677> no
#795 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> SinZ - Old mIRC bot.
#796 [06:37] <SinZ> ah
#797 [06:38] <SinZ> SinZBot is better
#798 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Been with me since before high school.. before I started really programming
#799 [06:38] <Guest41677> xD
#800 [06:38] <SinZ> SinZBot was my first project
#801 [06:38] <SinZ> but I did minor php scripting to learn php
#802 [06:39] <SinZ> for a php classic bot
#803 [06:39] <Guest41677> well my username does not contain a !
#804 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Guest41677 - Could you pull up a command prompt in windows (start -> in search bar, type: cmd)
#805 [06:39] <Guest41677> yea I can
#806 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt window, type: ping login.minecraft.net
#807 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> What does the first line say?
#808 [06:39] <Guest41677> I did
#809 [06:39] <Guest41677> uhm..
#810 [06:40] <SinZ> Guest41677: http://pastebin.com/G991tDMT
#811 [06:40] <Guest41677> Ping is running for activate.adobe.com127.0.0.1 [127.0.0.1] with 32 Bytes Data:
#812 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> You can copy from it by right clicking, choosing "mark", click and dragging a box, and right clicking again
#813 [06:40] <Guest41677> well its in german
#814 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> Um... wtf
#815 [06:40] <Guest41677> so u couldnt do much w the copied I think
#816 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> I said, login.minecraft.net
#817 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> not activate.adobe.com
#818 [06:40] <SinZ> and why did you pirate an adobe product...
#819 [06:41] <Guest41677> I typed ping logn.minecraft.net
#820 [06:41] <Guest41677> login*
#821 [06:41] * GreyVulpine sighs
#821 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Then you really did pirate minecraft as well...
#822 [06:41] <Guest41677> I bought it afterwards
#823 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> please give us a copy of your hosts file...
#824 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> ??> Guest41677 win/hosts
#825 [06:41] <VoxelHead> Guest41677: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#826 [06:41] <VoxelHead> Guest41677: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#827 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com, paste the contents of your hosts file there and give us the URL
#828 [06:45] <Guest41677> http://pastebin.com/xYzTEvGc
#829 [06:46] <SinZ> I see 127.0.0.1 login.minecraft.net
#830 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> See 127.0.0.1 activate.adobe.com127.0.0.1 login.minecraft.net
#831 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Rename it back to just 127.0.0.1 activate.adobe.com
#832 [06:47] <SinZ> or get rid of that line entirely
#833 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Your minecraft will work now, and you can keep pirating your adobe product
#834 [06:48] <Guest41677> I did, still tells me the same error as before
#835 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Did you save the hosts file after you edited it?
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#837 [06:48] <Guest41677> yea
#838 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure about that?
#839 [06:48] * Xeratiq chuckles at the situation
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#840 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Close the file, open it back up again to make sure
#841 [06:49] <Guest41677> just did and that part now is gone
#842 [06:49] * GreyVulpine blinks
#842 [06:49] <SinZ> dont you need to restart for hosts to be re-read
#843 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't.
#844 [06:49] <Xeratiq> nope
#845 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> Alright, um. You're absolutely sure you bought minecraft, correct?
#846 [06:51] <SinZ> from minecraft.net
#847 [06:51] <Guest41677> yea
#848 [06:51] <Guest41677> I recieved a code via email after buying it too
#849 [06:52] <Xeratiq> a gift code?
#850 [06:52] <SinZ> wedding weekend?
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#853 [06:52] <Guest41677> no just a transaction ID
#854 [06:52] <mib_hyicum> i'm french
#855 [06:53] <mib_hyicum> i need help
#856 [06:53] <mib_rcqcyu> moi aussi
#857 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Guest41677 - Try a complete uninstall of minecraft. Follow these instructions:
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#859 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> ??> Guest41677 win/reinst
#860 [06:53] <VoxelHead> Guest41677: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#861 [06:53] <VoxelHead> Guest41677: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#862 [06:53] <mib_hyicum> wait i go to google traduction
#863 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Afterwards, delete the launcher as well, redownload the latest launcher from minecraft.net/download
#864 [06:54] <mib_rcqcyu> i got error from java and my minecraft close
#865 [06:54] <mib_hyicum> what ????
#866 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_rcqcyu - Perhaps share that error with us? Copy the error and paste it at www.pastebin.com, press the submit button, give us the address to it so that we may read it
#867 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_hyicum - WHat?
#868 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> If you tell us your problem, we may be able to help.
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#870 [06:55] <mib_rcqcyu> i got a ot of error
#871 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_rcqcyu - Perhaps share that error with us? Copy the error and paste it at www.pastebin.com, press the submit button, give us the address to it so that we may read it
#872 [06:55] <mib_rcqcyu> but i restore my cumputer yesterday
#873 [06:55] <mib_rcqcyu> hs_err_pid3704
#874 [06:56] <Guest41677> I did but it keeps saying "Can't connect to minecraft.net" ..
#875 [06:56] <Guest41677> with the new downloaded launcher
#876 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> If you give us the error, we may be able to help. Saying you got an error, or lots of errors doesn't help us, help you at all
#877 [06:56] <Xeratiq> try pinging minecraft.net again
#878 [06:56] <Xeratiq> err, login.minecraft.net
#879 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Guest41677 - Ping login.minecraft.net again
#880 [06:56] <mib_rcqcyu> hs_err_pid1332
#881 [06:57] <mib_rcqcyu> hs_err_pid6000
#882 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_rcqcyu - Could you go INSIDE the file, copy the contents of the file to pastebin.com and give us the address to it
#883 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> those file names mean nothing to us
#884 [06:57] <mib_rcqcyu> ok
#885 [06:57] <mib_rcqcyu> sorry
#886 [06:57] <mib_hyicum> I bought the game beta (Minecraft) and download everything works but the screen turns white and it says:
#887 [06:58] <Guest41677> nothing..
#888 [06:58] <Xeratiq> not responding D:
#889 [06:58] <dylanbarberdude> Hi
#890 [06:58] <mib_hyicum> Bad video card drivers!
#891 [06:58] <dylanbarberdude> Hi
#892 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> Guest41677 - What do you mean, "Nothing"?
#893 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_hyicum - Update your video card's drivers.
#894 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_hyicum - What operating system are you on?
#895 [06:58] <Xeratiq> xD
#896 [06:58] <mib_hyicum> what is this
#897 [06:58] <Guest41677> keeps saying the same just can't connect and cmd still says the same
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#899 [06:58] <Guest41677> it wont even give me a new bin now
#900 [06:58] <GreyVulpine> Guest41677 - cmd says what, exactly?
#901 [06:58] <Guest41677> same as before
#902 [06:58] <Xeratiq> that means your hosts file change didn't take effect
#903 [06:59] <mib_hyicum> what is the video card drivers
#904 [06:59] <Guest41677> it works in browser, but not with the downloaded one
#905 [06:59] <mib_hyicum> ???
#906 [06:59] <Guest41677> well that already was like that before
#907 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Guest41677 - Try restarting your computer, just to make sure.
#908 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> It's the pirated version screwing up the hosts file
#909 [07:00] <Guest41677> okay
#910 [07:00] <Guest41677> will try
#911 [07:00] <mib_hyicum> restart the computer ok
#912 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_hyicum - It's what allows your computer to display pictures on your computer monitor
#913 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> If you update your video card's drivers, you may be able to play minecraft. Do you know what video card you have, or even what operating system you're running?
#914 [07:01] <mib_hyicum> how i can make this
#915 [07:02] <mib_hyicum> ?
#916 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows? Mac? Linux?
#917 [07:02] <mib_rcqcyu> what is the error code ?
#918 [07:02] <mib_hyicum> windows
#919 [07:02] <mib_rcqcyu> in my file
#920 [07:02] <mib_hyicum> windows
#921 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_rcqcyu - We're still waiting for you to copy the contents of that hs_err_pid file to pastebin.com and giving us the address to it
#922 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_hyicum - Alright, please follow these instructions:
#923 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_hyicum win/dxdiag
#924 [07:03] <VoxelHead> mib_hyicum: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#925 [07:03] <VoxelHead> mib_hyicum: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#926 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_hyicum - By giving us a dxdiag, we can determine what video card is installed on your system, so that we may point you to the right video drivers to update
#927 [07:03] <mib_rcqcyu> ok but i dont know what to copy
#928 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_rcqcyu - Did you open up one of the hs_err_pid files?
#929 [07:03] <mib_rcqcyu> ok i try
#930 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> Oi, this is what I get for not asking mibbit users to change their names..
#931 [07:04] <mib_rcqcyu> http://pastebin.com/mXsKiV35
#932 [07:04] <mib_hyicum> where is the win key
#933 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_rcqcyu - Looks like your nvidia video card's drivers are at fault, do you know how to update them?
#934 [07:05] <SinZ> ??> mib_hyicum win/winkey
#935 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_hyicum - Windows key is between the ctrl and alt keys
#936 [07:05] <mib_rcqcyu> no
#937 [07:05] <SinZ> ??> mib_hyicum win/win_key
#938 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> Looks like a windows logo
#939 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> it's win/key
#940 [07:05] <SinZ> ah
#941 [07:05] <SinZ> ??> mib_hyicum win/key
#942 [07:05] <VoxelHead> mib_hyicum: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#943 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> mib_rcqcyu - Go to http://www.nvidia.com and try doing the "automatically detect and install"
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#945 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> When you choose "download drivers"
#946 [07:06] <mib_rcqcyu> ok
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#948 [07:09] <hatman> its me again
#949 [07:09] <hatman> I noticed one thing that changed after restarting
#950 [07:09] <hatman> it actually says "Logging in..." before giving me the error I know and love
#951 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> Could you try https://login.minecraft.net in your browser again?
#952 [07:09] <mib_rcqcyu> heeeeee... The NVIDIA Smart Scan was unable to evaluate your system hardware. Please use Option 1 to manually find drivers for your NVIDIA products.
#953 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> Crap. mib_rcqcyu, could you give us a dxdiag?
#954 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_rcqcyu win/dxdiag
#955 [07:10] <VoxelHead> mib_rcqcyu: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#956 [07:10] <VoxelHead> mib_rcqcyu: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#957 [07:11] <hatman> neither chrome nor firefox is able to connect to this page
#958 [07:11] <hatman> but no more SSL error
#959 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> It's gotta be the hosts file....
#960 [07:11] <hatman> Error 105 (net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED)
#961 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> When you checked the c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc folder.. was there only one hosts file there?
#962 [07:12] <hatman> there are two
#963 [07:12] <mib_rcqcyu> http://pastebin.com/KDLyTcUj
#964 [07:12] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hah... open both of them please
#965 [07:12] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin.com both of them
#966 [07:13] <mib_rcqcyu> here http://pastebin.com/KDLyTcUj
#967 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> mib_rcqcyu - I saw, one moment please
#968 [07:14] <mib_rcqcyu> ok thanks
#969 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> mib_rcqcyu - Could you go to your start menu, right click on "Computer" and go to properties. Look for System type
#970 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> Is it 32 or 64 bit?
#971 [07:14] <hatman> if I change the other host file like the first one the error message minecraft gives me changes
#972 [07:15] <hatman> now it just says "Login failed" ..
#973 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> hatman - That's better, can connect to minecraft login servers
#974 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> hatman - DId you redownload the launcher from minecraft.net?
#975 [07:15] <hatman> I improved *high five* yes I did like u said
#976 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> And you launched it directly, yes? Not through some shortcut?
#977 [07:15] <hatman> directly via the .exe
#978 [07:16] <hatman> the thing I downloaded
#979 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> Alright then, log in to minecraft.net, go to your profile page, and change the password. Then try logging in again via the .exe
#980 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> With the new password
#981 [07:16] <hatman> okay
#982 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> Make sure your password contains only letters and numbers.
#983 [07:16] <mib_8kp555> i'm sorry i'm can not copie it on the site
#984 [07:16] <hatman> allright
#985 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> mib_rcqcyu - Still waiting on you. Are you running 32 or 64 bit?
#986 [07:16] <mib_rcqcyu> 32
#987 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> Alright, one sec mib_rcqcyu
#988 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_8kp555 - Why not?
#989 [07:17] <mib_8kp555> ???
#990 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_8kp555 - I don't understand, why can't you paste it?
#991 [07:18] <mib_8kp555> the dxdiag document
#992 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_rcqcyu - You're running a NVIDIA GeForce 9300GE video card, on 32 bit Windows Vista. The lastest drivers for your system are available here: http://www.nvidia.fr/object/win7-winvista-32bit-280.26-whql-driver-fr.html
#993 [07:18] <mib_rcqcyu> ty
#994 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_8kp555 - Yes, copy the contents of the dxdiag document, go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste iit in the text box there. Then press the submit button
#995 [07:19] <mib_rcqcyu> i have to go thank you very much guys
#996 [07:19] <hatman> oh my god
#997 [07:19] * GreyVulpine tips hat.
#997 [07:19] <hatman> I logged in
#998 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> hatman - Yay!
#999 [07:19] <hatman> *le angels sing*
#1000 [07:20] <mib_8kp555> i can not copy and colle the document
#1001 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> mib_8kp555 - I don't understand. You can't copy from the document?
#1002 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to select the text from the doument mib_8kp555?
#1003 [07:21] <mib_8kp555> i'm not can copy the document and submit
#1004 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_8kp555 - Do you have the dxdiag document open in notepad?
#1005 [07:21] <mib_8kp555> what is notepad
#1006 [07:21] <hatman> thanks alot, cya :)
#1007 [07:21] * GreyVulpine waves
#1007 [07:21] <GreyVulpine> mib_8kp555 - How do you have the document open? Using what program?\
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#1009 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the dxdiag document and its contents?
#1010 [07:22] <mib_8kp555> no
#1011 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> Did you save a dxdiag document using dxdiag's "Save all information" button?
#1012 [07:22] <mib_8kp555> what i can make ?
#1013 [07:23] <mib_8kp555> yes
#1014 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> Where did you save it to?
#1015 [07:23] * mib_cpsd7c [mib_cpsd7c@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1016 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> Hello?
#1017 [07:24] <mib_8kp555> in :example music
#1018 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> Could you please go there, and look for the dxdiag file you made? Double-click on it to open it up.
#1019 [07:25] <mib_8kp555> ok
#1020 [07:26] <mib_8kp555> system information blablabla
#1021 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> Right. Please copy EVERYTHING inside. Go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it there. Press the submit button. Look at the top of your address bar and give us the URL to it
#1022 [07:27] <mib_8kp555> not copy all ?
#1023 [07:28] <mib_8kp555> i can not apply
#1024 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes, please copy all the text in the dxdiag document
#1025 [07:28] <mib_8kp555> its not fonctionaly
#1026 [07:29] <GreyVulpine> I don't understand..
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#1028 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> All I'm asking you to do, is copy the text from the dxdiag file, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the address to it so that we may read it.
#1029 [07:30] <mib_8kp555> sorry i must go to the school
#1030 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> Okay.
#1031 [07:31] <mib_8kp555> by
#1032 [07:31] <mib_8kp555> bi
#1033 [07:31] <GreyVulpine> Meh, two out of three isn't bad.
#1034 [07:39] * Kealper rawrs
#1034 [07:40] <Kealper> got my new video card late last night.....now i just need to get a new CPU and i should add a few more years on to my computer lol
#1035 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> Yay?
#1036 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - What card?
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#1038 [07:46] <Kealper> Radeon HD 6850
#1039 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> Oooo.. not bad
#1040 [07:46] <SinZ> is there a way to get a giftcode back that was stolen?
#1041 [07:46] <Kealper> i like how low it underclocks itself when it's not being used....100mhz core, 150mhz ram
#1042 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> SinZ - Chargeback?
#1043 [07:47] <Xeratiq> i might be going for a 6990 :X
#1044 [07:47] <Kealper> Xeratiq: :o
#1045 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> Get the money back using your credit card/bank, will render that gift code defunct.
#1046 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> You can then buy a new one
#1047 [07:49] * |Kiikun| is curious as to how a giftcode gets stolen...
#1047 [07:49] <|Kiikun|> and hi people :P
#1048 [07:50] * GreyVulpine waves
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#1049 [07:50] * Kealper waves
#1049 [07:51] <Kealper> backing up a ton of stuff on my computer atm to get ready to reinstall windows
#1050 [07:51] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: heh. i just did that :P i likie having two hard drives
#1051 [07:51] <Kealper> gonna overclock my cpu again and just try throwing more voltage at it until it's stable....if i break it, then it just means i get to buy myself a new cpu sooner than later
#1052 [07:52] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: so hopefully see you soon
#1053 [07:52] <SinZ> |Kiikun|: people brute forcing gift codes
#1054 [07:52] <Kealper> :/
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#1056 [07:52] <Kealper> |Kiikun|: i'll still be here for a bit longer lol...going to try OCing after i go to reinstall windows
#1057 [07:53] * |Kiikun| thinks there should be an option to 'revoke giftcode' tht lasts for a week after it gets used.
#1057 [07:53] * GreyVulpine shakes
#1057 [07:53] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: how to chargeback on paypal
#1058 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> Oi, that's going to be something you need to take up with paypal then
#1059 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> How did you pay using paypal?
#1060 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Did you already have money in the account, or did you pay using a credit card?
#1061 [07:55] <SinZ> money in account
#1062 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to file a dispute with paypal..
#1063 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=security/safe_online_shopping
#1064 [07:55] * |Kiikun| goes back to reading Beautiful Destroywer Sailor Moon :P
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#1066 [08:00] <thunderhowl> hey
#1067 [08:00] <thunderhowl> i need help!
#1068 [08:00] <thunderhowl> DX
#1069 [08:01] <thunderhowl> Y NO 1 HERE
#1070 [08:01] <thunderhowl> >.<
#1071 [08:01] <thunderhowl> Hellp..........
#1072 [08:02] <thunderhowl> BYE I NO GET HELP ):
#1073 [08:02] <|Kiikun|> ?? ask
#1074 [08:02] <Valerie> a little patience goes a long way
#1075 [08:02] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
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#1077 [08:02] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1078 [08:02] <thunderhowl> ok ok geez i
#1079 [08:03] <thunderhowl> when i start up mine craft (even on single player) it crashes
#1080 [08:03] <|Kiikun|> you generally dont get helped if you come in spam 'HELP ME!!!' then quit in the span of 3 minutes...
#1081 [08:03] <|Kiikun|> thunderhowl: crashes or black screens?
#1082 [08:03] <thunderhowl> crashes
#1083 [08:04] <|Kiikun|> thunderhowl: any messages or logs?
#1084 [08:04] <thunderhowl> im srry i just need to go to school soon and i need ti hurry
#1085 [08:04] <thunderhowl> no
#1086 [08:04] <|Kiikun|> thunderhowl: then come back after school :P
#1087 [08:05] <thunderhowl> ok bye :P
#1088 [08:05] <|Kiikun|> thunderhowl: id be having you do stuff that would take time
#1089 [08:05] * |Kiikun| shakes head
#1089 [08:05] <|Kiikun|> Valerie: how ya doing?
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#1093 [08:18] <Valerie> good
#1094 [08:19] <Valerie> I figured out why I had connection problems
#1095 [08:19] <Valerie> I had uTorrent on seeding half the OCRemix.org library
#1096 [08:19] <|Kiikun|> router? antivirus?
#1097 [08:19] <|Kiikun|> ... orfl
#1098 [08:20] <|Kiikun|> so that was basicly eating bandwith
#1099 [08:20] <|Kiikun|> oooh! right! *updated utorrent settings for new speeds*
#1100 [08:21] <|Kiikun|> AuBot: i do :P and hi
#1101 [08:22] <Valerie> haha
#1102 [08:22] <Valerie> nah it's not using bandwidth
#1103 [08:22] <Valerie> it's just that it's interfering with my connection
#1104 [08:23] <|Kiikun|> ah.
#1105 [08:24] <Valerie> I turn it off whenever I play minecraft now
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#1108 [08:32] <Magnus64> hello
#1109 [08:32] <Magnus64> anyone have any tips on the best way to set up a farm for monster items
#1110 [08:32] <Magnus64> i can't seem to get mine working
#1111 [08:33] <|Kiikun|> you mean a mob spawning floor and a grinder of some sort?
#1112 [08:33] <Magnus64> yeah
#1113 [08:33] <Magnus64> i have a dark room set up but nothing is spawning
#1114 [08:33] <|Kiikun|> single player or multiplayer?
#1115 [08:34] <Magnus64> multiplayer
#1116 [08:34] <|Kiikun|> Magnus64: have you gone and lit up al the surrounding cave systems? and i mean very lit up :P
#1117 [08:35] <Valerie> it's a lot harder now that there's a million caves underground now
#1118 [08:35] <Magnus64> no i haven't
#1119 [08:36] <Magnus64> why do i have to do that lol
#1120 [08:36] <|Kiikun|> alternative to lighting is water floods :P
#1121 [08:36] <Magnus64> lol
#1122 [08:36] <|Kiikun|> Magnus64: only a limited number of mobs spawn. they spawn anywhere its dark.... you know what? lemme grab etho's vid that explains it all
#1123 [08:36] <Magnus64> ok thank you very much
#1124 [08:39] <|Kiikun|> Magnus64: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8YJfAwYOz0#t=197s
#1125 [08:39] <|Kiikun|> the science behind it hasnt really changed. just some execution
#1126 [08:40] <|Kiikun|> also.. having more players in the area = more mobs spawning in that area as i understand SMP spawning
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#1128 [08:48] <Magnus64> is there any way to still have a underground animal farm as well?
#1129 [08:48] <|Kiikun|> nope. animals spawn when chunks are loaded
#1130 [08:49] <|Kiikun|> or something....
#1131 [08:49] * |Kiikun| has a naked sheep warding around nearby for the past few days
#1131 [08:49] <Sinistrahd> even if you use a mod like worldedit to change a mobspawner to spawn animals?
#1132 [08:50] <|Kiikun|> spawners still spawn.
#1133 [08:50] <|Kiikun|> just natural spawnning has changed
#1134 [08:50] <Sinistrahd> my bacon farm consists of 32 pig mobspawners and tons of cacti and waterflow
#1135 [08:50] <Sinistrahd> ah ok
#1136 [08:51] <Magnus64> ok i was lighting up a 30x30 room with a lot of torchest and it was still not letting me have any spawns in it
#1137 [08:51] <Sinistrahd> walk over bacon farm, receive bacon
#1138 [08:51] <Magnus64> and it was fully cover in grass as well
#1139 [08:52] <Sinistrahd> Magnus you can always set up a room without a ceiling with lots of floating torches to avoid enemy spawns at night
#1140 [08:52] <|Kiikun|> yeah natural animal spawns no longer work like they used to.
#1141 [08:52] <Sinistrahd> that way at least it'd count as the surface
#1142 [08:52] <Sinistrahd> Kiikun do you know if glassing over an area makes the game consider it to be underground?
#1143 [08:53] <|Kiikun|> Sinistrahd: i founda chicken in a ravine.. there was no surface access i saw <.<
#1144 [08:53] <Sinistrahd> my smp players will generally glass over any areas with wood structures to avoid wildfires
#1145 [08:53] <|Kiikun|> Sinistrahd: duno abotu that one
#1146 [08:54] <Sinistrahd> I'll have to abstain from Deus Ex HR someday and load up my server to see
#1147 [08:54] <Sinistrahd> :P
#1148 [08:54] * GreyVulpine gasps
#1148 [08:54] <Sinistrahd> speaking of Adam Jensen
#1149 [08:54] <Magnus64> lol
#1150 [08:54] <Sinistrahd> time to go to Montreal
#1151 [08:54] <|Kiikun|> lol
#1152 [08:54] * Sinistrahd flees
#1152 [08:54] <GreyVulpine> Oh fun, I recommend lots of emp grenades
#1153 [08:55] <Sinistrahd> I am up to the funicular
#1154 [08:55] * GreyVulpine nods
#1154 [08:55] <Sinistrahd> need to place my turrets and my soda machines and sit back :P
#1155 [08:55] * GreyVulpine snickers
#1155 [08:56] <Sinistrahd> I also enjoy throwing emp grenades at myself
#1156 [08:56] <Sinistrahd> since they do nothing to me
#1157 [08:56] <|Kiikun|> boom! http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Spawn#Animal_Spawning
#1158 [08:56] * GreyVulpine went through that mission doing hack-heavy skills.
#1158 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> God that boss pissed me off
#1159 [08:57] <GreyVulpine> Didn't have the electric-immunity.
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#1161 [09:00] <Sinistrahd> whoa, animal breeding?
#1162 [09:00] <Sinistrahd> is minecraft gonna become mineville?
#1163 [09:00] <|Kiikun|> Sinistrahd: how else we going to make animal farms with animal spawning nerfed? :P *bites tongue for using THAT word*
#1164 [09:01] <|Kiikun|> also.. makes passive sorting INSANELY easier :P
#1165 [09:03] * |Kiikun| looks at spawning list again... and suddenly gains massive feat of agro lava mob o.o;;
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#1166 [09:03] <|Kiikun|> *fear
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#1168 [09:14] <mib_uo57iw> I have a question, i get the error code when it loads up in my classic play, if i buy the newest one, will i still get the error code? i have downloaded the latest java and redownloaded it many times.
#1169 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> What error code?
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#1171 [09:17] <mib_uo57iw> an error occured while loading the applet. plz contact support to resolve the issue. Fatel error occured (4)unable to get the upstreamfor lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
#1172 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, your security software is blocking java from downloading those files.
#1173 [09:19] <mib_uo57iw> So I'm not computer genius but how do you do change it so then the java will download it?
#1174 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> All depends on what security software you have installed on the system
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#1179 [09:29] <Mirroar> Hello
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#1181 [09:29] <Mirroar> Is it impossible to play on 1.7.3 now?
#1182 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#1183 [09:29] <mib_uo57iw> do you know where i could look because it says here that its on, but i dont really know where to look. if i brought my computer to like best buy or some computer store, do you think that they would be able to find out where the java stuff is at
#1184 [09:29] <Mirroar> Is it?
#1185 [09:29] <Mirroar> I mean, can I play MC Version 1.7.3?
#1186 [09:29] <Mirroar> Or is it impossible?
#1187 [09:30] <|Kiikun|> Mirroar: if you have a backup.
#1188 [09:30] <Mirroar> Are you sure?
#1189 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_uo57iw - Best buy's geek squad may be able to help
#1190 [09:30] <Mirroar> Do any of you have a link?
#1191 [09:30] <Mirroar> Or a jar?
#1192 [09:30] <Mirroar> That they could lend me?
#1193 [09:30] <Mirroar> I am desperate
#1194 [09:30] <mib_uo57iw> ok thank you very much
#1195 [09:30] <Mirroar> I need it
#1196 [09:30] <|Kiikun|> you have to have your own backup :P cant distribute
#1197 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Mirroar - It's against the Terms of Service to distribute
#1198 [09:30] <|Kiikun|> ??> Mirroar oldversion
#1199 [09:30] <VoxelHead> Mirroar: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#1200 [09:30] <Mirroar> DAMN IT
#1201 [09:31] <Mirroar> Hmm
#1202 [09:31] <Mirroar> Hmmm
#1203 [09:31] * |Kiikun| always copies the minecraft.jar on updates anyway :P
#1203 [09:32] <Mirroar> So
#1204 [09:32] <Mirroar> That is the only way
#1205 [09:32] <Mirroar> I had a back-up
#1206 [09:32] <Mirroar> But it updated itself
#1207 [09:32] <Mirroar> For some odd reason
#1208 [09:32] <Mirroar> :/
#1209 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Probably was using the old launcher still. The new launcher asks if you want to update
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#1211 [09:34] * |Kiikun| has vanilla backups since 1.6.6 :P
#1211 [09:34] <Mirroar> Hmm
#1212 [09:34] <Mirroar> Lol 1.6
#1213 [09:34] <|Kiikun|> i started in 1.5_01 and didnt start makign jar backups until 166
#1214 [09:35] <|Kiikun|> ok food run/delivery :3
#1215 [09:35] <Mirroar> Ok
#1216 [09:35] <Mirroar> Well
#1217 [09:36] <Mirroar> I fixed the problem
#1218 [09:36] <Mirroar> Thanks guys!
#1219 [09:42] <tyteen4a03> I also have 1.6.6, but it has TMI and zMod
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#1221 [09:46] <Ryladine> Hello shadow
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#1233 [10:31] <Triggerdusk> alright im fed up with this server crap
#1234 [10:31] <Triggerdusk> is anyones server losing connection?
#1235 [10:31] <Triggerdusk> it either does that before i can log into it or its laggy then shit
#1236 [10:32] <Triggerdusk> i have redownloaded the server i have used ccleaner and game booster
#1237 [10:32] <Triggerdusk> nothing is helping
#1238 [10:33] <Triggerdusk> anyone have any suggestions?
#1239 [10:35] <The_First_Gamer> COuld be the connection, not what you're hosting it on.
#1240 [10:36] <Triggerdusk> its being run on my computer
#1241 [10:36] <The_First_Gamer> So let's pretend that's an actual server machine.
#1242 [10:36] <The_First_Gamer> The connection has to be good in order for it to work.
#1243 [10:36] <The_First_Gamer> And even then.T
#1244 [10:36] <Triggerdusk> and my internet signal is not even 10 feet from me
#1245 [10:36] <The_First_Gamer> The further away from it you are, the longer it will take to get the info there.
#1246 [10:36] <The_First_Gamer> Plus, it might not be THAT part of the connection.
#1247 [10:37] <The_First_Gamer> I'd suggest calling up your ISP for some information on speeds and the like.
#1248 [10:37] <Triggerdusk> such as?
#1249 [10:38] <The_First_Gamer> I'm lost there, considering i just got up.
#1250 [10:38] <The_First_Gamer> Plus i'm not exactly the best person to provide assistance.
#1251 [10:38] <Triggerdusk> i apperciate you providing it anyways
#1252 [10:39] <Triggerdusk> hey grey you there?
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#1254 [10:46] <Triggerdusk> ???
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#1256 [10:52] <Albi> Hallo ist ein Gm da ^^?
#1257 [10:53] <Albi> is a gm here ?X)
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#1259 [10:55] <Ryladine> ?? english
#1260 [10:55] <Ryladine> Hm
#1261 [10:55] <Ryladine> English only here please.
#1262 [10:56] <Albi> i need a Gm
#1263 [10:56] <Xeratiq> uh... for?
#1264 [10:56] <Albi> i had a Question
#1265 [10:56] <Xeratiq> minecraft doesn't really have GMs
#1266 [10:57] <Albi> i need a Gm for the Payment hmm...
#1267 [10:57] <Ryladine> ?? accoiunt
#1268 [10:57] <Ryladine> ?? account
#1269 [10:57] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#1270 [10:57] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#1271 [10:58] <Albi> i Had only Question with the Payment
#1272 [10:58] <Ryladine> ?? ask
#1273 [10:58] <Ryladine> ask it
#1274 [10:58] <Albi> Why Doesn't can pay with Paysafecard
#1275 [10:58] <Albi> sry bad english X)
#1276 [10:59] <Ryladine> E-mail Mojang about it
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#1278 [10:59] <Albi> who i can write them ?
#1279 [11:00] <redthing12> my minecraft keeps loading to title screen, and starting to load worlds, but then goes black. every time
#1280 [11:00] <Ryladine> albi:There is an email for you to contact on the site.
#1281 [11:00] <Ryladine> redething: Mac?
#1282 [11:00] <redthing12> yeah
#1283 [11:00] <redthing12> 10.5.8
#1284 [11:00] <Triggerdusk> is anyone else having server problems?
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#1286 [11:01] <Ryladine> what kind of problems trigger
#1287 [11:02] <Albi> Mojang is the E-mail ?
#1288 [11:02] <Ryladine> redthing12: read the topic
#1289 [11:02] <Ryladine> !topic
#1290 [11:02] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: topic [ Channel Rules (Under construction. Use common sense!): http://www.minecraftirc.net/rules/minecrafthelp | Bug tracker: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang | We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues. | Minecraft 1.9-pre is released. We will not support it until its stable release ] ... changed [ almostroot | Sun Sep 25 21:50:56 MST 2011 ] ... undo [ yes ]
#1291 [11:02] <redthing12> kk
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#1293 [11:03] <Triggerdusk> well the server itself loses connection
#1294 [11:03] <Ryladine> What do you mean?
#1295 [11:03] <Triggerdusk> im running it on the same computer im talking to you from
#1296 [11:04] <Ryladine> Expain what yo mean by it loses connection.
#1297 [11:04] <Triggerdusk> i mean it says "192.168.1.6: (then a bunch of differnt numbers here) has lost connection"
#1298 [11:04] <Triggerdusk> im not even 5 feet from my router
#1299 [11:04] <Ryladine> Thats your client losing connection from the server.
#1300 [11:04] <Triggerdusk> no its the server itself
#1301 [11:04] <Ryladine> Thats the internal IP of the server?
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#1303 [11:05] <Triggerdusk> the server application will eb running but i cant connect to it
#1304 [11:05] <Triggerdusk> yes
#1305 [11:05] <Ryladine> Hmm
#1306 [11:05] <Triggerdusk> 74.75.85.212 is the external for anyone who wants to join the sever
#1307 [11:05] <Triggerdusk> here ill run the server you try to connect
#1308 [11:06] <Triggerdusk> servers on
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#1311 [11:06] <Ryladine> !check 74.75.85.212
#1312 [11:07] <Triggerdusk> if i do happen to log into it its laggy as hell
#1313 [11:07] <Ryladine> !check 74.75.85.212:25565
#1314 [11:07] <Ryladine> !check 74.75.85.212:25565
#1315 [11:07] <Ryladine> Trigger how much RAM does the machine your running this on have?
#1316 [11:07] <Triggerdusk> 2 gigs
#1317 [11:07] <Ryladine> Anything else running on the machine?
#1318 [11:08] <Triggerdusk> my hdd is a 1tb drive and i have a gforce 9600 pro over clocked card in there
#1319 [11:08] <Ryladine> I mean software
#1320 [11:08] <Ryladine> any other software running on it, at the same time as the server
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#1322 [11:08] <Triggerdusk> apart from the internet no
#1323 [11:08] <Ryladine> OS?
#1324 [11:08] <Triggerdusk> im using gamebooster so the background preocesses should be minimal
#1325 [11:09] <Triggerdusk> vista home premium
#1326 [11:09] <weirdo> hello i'm french and i need help
#1327 [11:09] <Triggerdusk> i just got this hard drive so its a newly instaled OS
#1328 [11:09] <Ryladine> Trigger: That would cut you really close on RAM...
#1329 [11:09] <Ryladine> Trigger: Vista is a RAM hog
#1330 [11:09] <Triggerdusk> this is the first time this kinda thing has happend with my server
#1331 [11:10] <Ryladine> Trigger: A good 1/2 of that RAM or more is probably taken by the OS
#1332 [11:10] <Triggerdusk> i have been using the same server for the past 6 plus months
#1333 [11:10] <Ryladine> Trigger: Do you know how to use teamviewer?
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#1335 [11:10] <Triggerdusk> yes i do
#1336 [11:10] <weirdo> i haw buy the version beta and its write bad video card drivers
#1337 [11:10] <Triggerdusk> and btw my computer is a dual-core
#1338 [11:10] <weirdo> what can i make ?
#1339 [11:10] <weirdo> i use windows
#1340 [11:11] <Ryladine> weirdo: Update your graphics, if you don't know where to get your drivers upload a dxdiag to pastebin
#1341 [11:11] <Ryladine> ??> weirdo win/dxdiag
#1342 [11:11] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1343 [11:11] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1344 [11:11] <Ryladine> ??> weirdo pastebin
#1345 [11:11] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1346 [11:11] <weirdo> ok
#1347 [11:12] <Ryladine> Trigger: Do me a favor and get teamviewer running, and /msg me the user and pass if you don't mind.
#1348 [11:12] <KillsonWheels> Hello all, I was previously using a 32bit version of Java, but I installed the 64bit version and now I get this when trying to connect to minecraft: nter>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect</center></font></body></html>
#1349 [11:12] <Ryladine> kill You running a 32bit OS?
#1350 [11:12] <KillsonWheels> no 64bit
#1351 [11:13] <Triggerdusk> rylandine try my server again
#1352 [11:13] <KillsonWheels> Running inside the browser works..
#1353 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> KillsonWheels - That's because of your security software blocking the launcher
#1354 [11:14] <weirdo> i not can copy it
#1355 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to allow the minecraft software in your security software KillsonWheels.
#1356 [11:14] <KillsonWheels> I am just using Security essentials
#1357 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure that's all?
#1358 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> No firewall?
#1359 [11:14] <weirdo> hey grey vulpin i am the french
#1360 [11:14] <KillsonWheels> Well, windows firewall,
#1361 [11:15] <KillsonWheels> but I disabled it and had the same issue
#1362 [11:15] <weirdo> it not functionaly i not can copy it
#1363 [11:16] <Ryladine> Weirdo: Did you follow voxelheads instructions?
#1364 [11:16] <weirdo> yes
#1365 [11:16] <Ryladine> Where he says to click "save all instructions?"
#1366 [11:16] <weirdo> yes
#1367 [11:17] <Ryladine> Did you open the file it made?
#1368 [11:17] <Ryladine> It should have made a text document where you saved it that you can open and copy and paste
#1369 [11:18] <weirdo> you talk to me
#1370 [11:18] <weirdo> ???
#1371 [11:18] <Ryladine> Yes
#1372 [11:18] <weirdo> ok
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#1374 [11:18] <weirdo> I can not copy the document
#1375 [11:18] <Ryladine> weirdo: Why not?
#1376 [11:18] <KillsonWheels> Any ideas? I trried a clean install of minecraft as well.
#1377 [11:18] <weirdo> its Menerva
#1378 [11:19] <weirdo> in menerva
#1379 [11:19] <Ryladine> killson: grey answered you, check your firewall settings
#1380 [11:19] <KillsonWheels> I disabled the firewall.
#1381 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> KillsonWheels - Then, are you running java 6 or 7?
#1382 [11:20] <Ryladine> weirdo: Menerva? Never heard of it... Moment...
#1383 [11:20] <weirdo> please help me
#1384 [11:20] <KillsonWheels> 6
#1385 [11:20] <weirdo> it's nothing faue
#1386 [11:20] <weirdo> fault
#1387 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> KillsonWheels - Then, if you're getting that connection failure in the launcher, I'm definitely sure it's your security software or firewall blocking java
#1388 [11:21] <Ryladine> Weirdo: You folloowed all of voxelheads instructions, what type of file did it save it as?
#1389 [11:21] <weirdo> yes
#1390 [11:21] <KillsonWheels> I have disabled it though.
#1391 [11:22] <weirdo> greyvulpine I am french lunch
#1392 [11:22] <KillsonWheels> hmm. thanks. I will try a reinstall of Java
#1393 [11:22] <weirdo> its still not working
#1394 [11:22] <Ryladine> Weirdo: Grey is helping someone else. please watch for my responses.
#1395 [11:22] <weirdo> ok sorry
#1396 [11:23] <weirdo> j Minecraft beta opens
#1397 [11:23] <Ryladine> Weirdo: The file dxdiag output should have been in an openable text document, that you can copy and paste. Are you saying it did not?
#1398 [11:23] <GreyVulpine> KillsonWheels - Besides windows firewall, what other firewall do you have?
#1399 [11:23] <weirdo> mon pseudo et mon you mot de passe
#1400 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> MSE doesn't have a firewall or network security built in.
#1401 [11:24] <Ryladine> Weirdo: I do not speak french if you want my help speak english please.
#1402 [11:24] <weirdo> ok
#1403 [11:24] <KillsonWheels> Just hardware firewall provided by router.
#1404 [11:24] <weirdo> i'm loging me in
#1405 [11:25] <weirdo> This charge
#1406 [11:25] <weirdo> and it make a black ecran
#1407 [11:25] <KillsonWheels> but that isn't blocking Java
#1408 [11:25] <Ryladine> Weirdo: I would like you to follow simple isntructions, I am speaking perfect english so it should be easier to understand.
#1409 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> KillsonWheels - Any other software installed on your system?
#1410 [11:25] <Ryladine> Weirdo: I did not ask you to start minecraft.
#1411 [11:25] <KillsonWheels> Not security related.
#1412 [11:25] <weirdo> its not functionaly
#1413 [11:26] <Ryladine> Weirdo: I asked you to follow the instructions voxelhead gave you, did you follow them all to the best of your ability?
#1414 [11:26] <KillsonWheels> not even anything like peerblock
#1415 [11:26] <weirdo> yes
#1416 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> KillsonWheels - Are you sure you got java 6, and not 7, right?
#1417 [11:26] <Ryladine> Weirdo: What part of following them did you have to stop on? (What did you complete)
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#1419 [11:26] <KillsonWheels> Actually. I had Java 7 and six instaled
#1420 [11:27] <KillsonWheels> should I remove 7?
#1421 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> KillsonWheels - Java 7 can also give that error
#1422 [11:27] <weirdo> what
#1423 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Please remove 7 as well
#1424 [11:27] <weirdo> ???
#1425 [11:27] <KillsonWheels> k
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#1427 [11:27] <Ryladine> Weirdo: The instructions voxelhead gave you, where did you get stuck on them?
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#1429 [11:28] <weirdo> i can not copy the document and pastell it
#1430 [11:28] <Ryladine> Weirdo: Can you try to explain why you cannot so I can help you with it?
#1431 [11:29] <weirdo> what i not understand
#1432 [11:29] <weirdo> sorry
#1433 [11:29] <Ryladine> Weirdo: Please explain what happens when you try to copy and paste it.
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#1435 [11:31] <weirdo> i will copy the document and its write in grey i can not click it
#1436 [11:32] <Ryladine> Weirdo: Are you sure you are copying from the file output by the dxdiag when you told it to save the information?
#1437 [11:32] <weirdo> what output
#1438 [11:32] <Ryladine> ??> weirdo win/dxdiag
#1439 [11:32] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1440 [11:32] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1441 [11:33] <weirdo> i not can copy the contents
#1442 [11:33] <Ryladine> You cannot copy the contents of the file it saved?
#1443 [11:34] <weirdo> yes
#1444 [11:34] <Ryladine> Alright. Lets do this another way..
#1445 [11:34] <weirdo> ok
#1446 [11:34] <Ryladine> What kind of video card do you have, do you know? The exact model?
#1447 [11:34] <weirdo> ????
#1448 [11:35] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: *ofers to temaviewer in your place*
#1449 [11:35] <Ryladine> Lol thanks kii, I've got someone else waiting for me to teamviewer them XD
#1450 [11:35] <|Kiikun|> ??> weirdo teamviewer
#1451 [11:35] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1452 [11:35] <VoxelHead> weirdo: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1453 [11:35] <Ryladine> weirdo: Kiikun is going to help you now, please listen and respond to them instead of me.
#1454 [11:36] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: just video drivers? or somethign else up with him?
#1455 [11:37] <Ryladine> He said he got the error bad video card drivers
#1456 [11:37] <|Kiikun|> ok
#1457 [11:37] <Ryladine> Thats all he's told me about the problem I've been trying to get the model of his card for the past 15-20 minutes lol
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#1459 [11:38] <weirdo> ok
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#1462 [11:38] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: tell me once you have teamviewer installed
#1463 [11:38] <weirdo> :(
#1464 [11:39] <weirdo> its not a bug ???
#1465 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> Not a bug, just your computer needs to have some software updated for it to work
#1466 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> In order for that to happen though, we need to know some information from your computer.
#1467 [11:39] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: you need to update your video drivers. as you do not know what your video card is, and apparently cant copy and paste, this is the simplest option
#1468 [11:39] <mib_6jinr2> can some1 help me?
#1469 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> mib_6jinr2 - With?
#1470 [11:39] <mib_6jinr2> i bought the game
#1471 [11:40] <mib_6jinr2> but it still says im not premium
#1472 [11:40] <|Kiikun|> ??> mib_6jinr2 payment
#1473 [11:40] <Ketsueki> mib_6jinr2: how long have you waited?
#1474 [11:40] <VoxelHead> mib_6jinr2: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1475 [11:40] <mib_6jinr2> i also didnt recive a mail
#1476 [11:40] <VoxelHead> mib_6jinr2: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1477 [11:40] <mib_6jinr2> a day
#1478 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> mib_6jinr2 - What did you use to pay for minecraft?
#1479 [11:40] <mib_6jinr2> ideal
#1480 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> ideal?
#1481 [11:41] <mib_6jinr2> internet banking
#1482 [11:41] <weirdo> yes its downloaded
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#1484 [11:41] <Ketsueki> iDeal I take it then... and I've never heard of them before.
#1485 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Then as bank to bank transfers, it may take up to 5 business days
#1486 [11:41] <mib_6jinr2> really!?
#1487 [11:41] <mib_6jinr2> who that takes long....
#1488 [11:41] <Ketsueki> mib_6jinr2: that's how long 'checks take to clear'
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#1490 [11:42] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: and running? you should see 'Your ID' and 'Password' on the left side of the teamviewer window. msg those to me
#1491 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> That's usually how banks work.
#1492 [11:42] <mib_6jinr2> i also bought other things online, but i never took that long
#1493 [11:42] <Ketsueki> mib_6jinr2: well it depends whom you're buying from and what risks they want to take
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#1495 [11:42] <mib_6jinr2> so ill just have to wait to the end of the week
#1496 [11:42] <Ketsueki> yup
#1497 [11:43] <mib_6jinr2> and what if i still dont have it
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#1499 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_6jinr2 - I'd call up your bank, just to make sure there's a record of a transaction going to Mojang AB for minecraft
#1500 [11:43] <weirdo> i must pay it ?
#1501 [11:43] <Ketsueki> Also, I think this is a 1.9 pre SMP bug: Client side trees only grow trunks, but when chopped drop sapplings as if there were leaf blocks that are not sent to the client.
#1502 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> If there is, then it just is going to take time for the payment to clear from your bank
#1503 [11:44] <mib_6jinr2> i checked my bank account, and it said i paid the €14,95
#1504 [11:44] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: you run teamviewer. you give me the ID and Pass. i then install new video drivers for you
#1505 [11:44] <Ketsueki> mib_6jinr2: then it's really 'in route'
#1506 [11:44] <mib_6jinr2> ah ok
#1507 [11:44] <mib_6jinr2> thanks people :P
#1508 [11:45] <Ketsueki> mib_6jinr2: think of it like your bank having to send off the payment in a weekly armored car transfer.
#1509 [11:45] <weirdo> the id and the pass of minecraft ?
#1510 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> weirdo - Of teamviewer.
#1511 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Do you have teamviewer launched?
#1512 [11:45] <Ketsueki> weirdo: no, of your remote desktop application
#1513 [11:46] <weirdo> is teamwiver gratis
#1514 [11:46] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: yes
#1515 [11:46] <weirdo> ???
#1516 [11:46] <weirdo> ok
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#1518 [11:47] <weirdo> ok its launched
#1519 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> weirdo - Do you see a 9 digit ID and 4 digit password?
#1520 [11:47] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: /msg |Kiikun| id pass
#1521 [11:47] <weirdo> yes
#1522 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Please /msg |Kiikun| with it
#1523 [11:47] <weirdo> ok
#1524 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> /msg |Kiikun| <ID> <pass>
#1525 [11:49] <weirdo> ok i'm make it
#1526 [11:54] <TheNytangel> 4 days home sick from school.. I'm going to have a lot of homework
#1527 [11:54] <Ryladine> Still working with him?
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#1531 [11:57] <Ryladine> Welcome back M0nk
#1532 [11:58] <|Kiikun|> he/she doesnt even have admin... or atleast claims not to..
#1533 [11:59] <Ryladine> Well...
#1534 [11:59] <|Kiikun|> nm... its xp *derp*
#1535 [11:59] <|Kiikun|> or not
#1536 [12:00] <Ryladine> Having problems deciding what OS it is? lol
#1537 [12:00] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: *opens google translate*
#1538 [12:00] <|Kiikun|> its got an admin rights block on it still
#1539 [12:00] <Ryladine> UAC?
#1540 [12:01] <|Kiikun|> no.. just admin or something.
#1541 [12:01] <Ryladine> Hmm I wonder...
#1542 [12:01] <Ryladine> Weirdo: This machine... Is it a company machine?
#1543 [12:01] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: vous avez besoin de l'administrateur de l'ordinateur pour exécuter ce fichier.
#1544 [12:02] <|Kiikun|> his brother has admin rights
#1545 [12:02] <|Kiikun|> but its not UAC.. he needs to switch users
#1546 [12:03] <Ryladine> Ah, that would explain it
#1547 [12:03] <weirdo> ok
#1548 [12:03] <|Kiikun|> trying to get him to switch back to this :Pah there h/she is :3
#1549 [12:04] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: log in as your brother and run that. just click yes/next to everything.
#1550 [12:04] <weirdo> ????
#1551 [12:05] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: Did you mean: you need the computer administrator to run dat file be downloaded.
#1552 [12:05] <|Kiikun|> vous avez besoin de l'administrateur de l'ordinateur d'exécuter ce fichier que nous avons téléchargé.
#1553 [12:05] <weirdo> ok
#1554 [12:05] <weirdo> my brother is admin and i know his pass
#1555 [12:06] <Ryladine> ??> triggerdusk java/version
#1556 [12:06] <VoxelHead> triggerdusk: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1557 [12:06] <VoxelHead> triggerdusk: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1558 [12:06] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: log in to his user and then run that file.
#1559 [12:07] <weirdo> ok
#1560 [12:07] <weirdo> and then ?
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#1562 [12:08] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: accept all the prompts by clicking yes or next. once it is done, your drivers will be updated and minecraft should run
#1563 [12:08] <Ryladine> Hey, anyone know of an MC server reporting java errors? Exectopm access violations?
#1564 [12:08] <weirdo> ok i make it
#1565 [12:08] <Ryladine> Know any solutions besides trying to reinstall java?
#1566 [12:08] <weirdo> and thank you
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#1568 [12:09] <weirdo> very much
#1569 [12:09] <|Kiikun|> weirdo: no problem :D good luck
#1570 [12:09] <weirdo> by
#1571 [12:09] <weirdo> :)
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#1573 [12:09] <Ryladine> GreyVulpine: You there?
#1574 [12:09] <|Kiikun|> {"responseData": null "responseDetails": "Suspected Terms of Service Abuse. Please see http://code.google.com/apis/errors" "responseStatus": 403}
#1575 [12:09] <|Kiikun|> :/
#1576 [12:10] * |Kiikun| deletes the script
#1576 [12:10] <Ryladine> Lol?
#1577 [12:10] <|Kiikun|> it seems all the translation APIs are going pay-to-use
#1578 [12:10] <Ryladine> lol
#1579 [12:11] <|Kiikun|> i have this feeling the mibbit translator will go byebye too.
#1580 [12:12] <|Kiikun|> ooh! any chance of adding an onjoin message for mibbits to enable autotranslate? :D
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#1582 [12:14] <Loyal> can i get help about logblock here?
#1583 [12:14] <|Kiikun|> huh? logblock? a bukkit mod?
#1584 [12:15] <Ryladine> Yeah
#1585 [12:15] <Ryladine> Loyal try in #bukkit
#1586 [12:15] <Ryladine> Kii, you ever hear of a MC server outputting java errors?
#1587 [12:15] <Ryladine> I've never had it happen to be before
#1588 [12:16] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: not recently... and not modded
#1589 [12:16] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: happening to you?
#1590 [12:16] <Ryladine> No, the person I was helping
#1591 [12:16] <Ryladine> Vanilla MC server had java error reports of acess violation exeptions
#1592 [12:17] <|Kiikun|> ah. my call woulda been to redownload server exe/jar... then update java
#1593 [12:17] <Ryladine> No other obvious issues but the files
#1594 [12:17] <Ryladine> Mmm
#1595 [12:18] <Ryladine> brb
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#1597 [12:18] <Ryladine> Back
#1598 [12:18] <Ryladine> Btw Kii, I was wondering...
#1599 [12:19] <Ryladine> What does the + mean?
#1600 [12:19] <TheNytangel> Ryladine, voice
#1601 [12:19] <|Kiikun|> + means voice in IRC terms
#1602 [12:19] <TheNytangel> @ is op
#1603 [12:20] <TheNytangel> & is something only few networks use
#1604 [12:20] <Ryladine> I had that one figured out
#1605 [12:20] * Ryladine Doesn't really use IRC much
#1605 [12:20] <Ryladine> XD
#1606 [12:20] <|Kiikun|> it gives us the benefit of being able to speak if bannen, muted, or if the channel is muted (channel mode +m)
#1607 [12:20] <Ryladine> bannen?
#1608 [12:20] <|Kiikun|> banned
#1609 [12:20] <Ryladine> ah
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#1612 [12:21] <|Kiikun|> you CAN +b someone... but that just silences them and prevents them from rejoining.... thouch aubot or vox autokick
#1613 [12:21] <|Kiikun|> *though
#1614 [12:21] <|Kiikun|> @ can kick, ban, and change channel modes
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#1616 [12:23] <TheNytangel> |Kiikun|, and change the topic
#1617 [12:23] <|Kiikun|> i file that under 'change modes' :P
#1618 [12:23] <Ryladine> lol
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#1620 [12:23] <TheNytangel> It isn't a mode though
#1621 [12:24] <Ryladine> brb
#1622 [12:24] <|Kiikun|> true. its a property :P
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#1628 [12:34] <|Kiikun|> hmm... hey GreyVulpine... if i managed to write a translation script.. woudl you use it? :P
#1629 [12:34] * GreyVulpine winces
#1629 [12:34] <|Kiikun|> lol
#1630 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> We had somebody do that a month or two ago..
#1631 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Might have been crow. was spammy
#1632 [12:36] <|Kiikun|> .. i never said a BOT... i ment an mirc-side script :P
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#1634 [12:37] <|Kiikun|> so we could type something and it would translate :P
#1635 [12:37] * GreyVulpine shudders
#1635 [12:37] <|Kiikun|> ok i take that as a no.
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#1637 [12:41] <Ryladine> lol
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#1644 [13:06] <mib_iel85y> brought the game recently but cant play the game
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#1646 [13:06] <mib_iel85y> Help!!!!!
#1647 [13:09] <Nielsen85> hello. can someone help me with me trying to log-in to MC but can't remember password as I've always had this on *remember password. I recently formatted my PC and then the log-in was blank. My e-mail was hacked long after I registered MC, but I now use another e-mail account. But I can't send my lost password to that account. I'm really confused to what to do now... please help me.
#1648 [13:10] <Nielsen85> hello?
#1649 [13:10] <Ryladine> ?? account
#1650 [13:11] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#1651 [13:11] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#1652 [13:11] <Ryladine> I know the last bit doesn't really help but thats all I can give you
#1653 [13:11] <Ryladine> Sorry.
#1654 [13:11] <Nielsen85> thats ok.. thx for answering
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#1657 [13:13] <|Kiikun|> Nielsen85: you can try logging into your old email... unles you disabled it..
#1658 [13:14] <|Kiikun|> Nielsen85: actualyl.. id you stopped logging into it most email systems disable the acvcount and allow it to be remade...
#1659 [13:16] <Nielsen85> I can't log in because it was hacked
#1660 [13:16] <mib_irnldt> Hello im having trouble with my minecraft ive just bought it in the last 30 minutes and when i try to go on it it works untill i try to update it so i can play with my friends when it says 'Fatal Error Occured(4): C\Users\my pc name\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\lwjgl.jar (Access is denied) please help i really want this game to work:(!
#1661 [13:16] * |Kiikun| hears 'hacked' and thinks 'hacked into' or 'being used for spoof mails'
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#1662 [13:16] <Nielsen85> I've tried going around it but no help there
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#1664 [13:16] <mib_dh6v5c> b
#1665 [13:18] <Nielsen85> there was no help going to http://minecraft.net/support/
#1666 [13:18] <Nielsen85> not related to my problem :(
#1667 [13:18] <|Kiikun|> Nielsen85: yeah. its generally asumed the email is secure and accessible.
#1668 [13:19] <Nielsen85> I now use a new email... what I really want is to get MC attached to my new email account.
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#1670 [13:19] <Nielsen85> but that is not implemented yet or something
#1671 [13:20] <Nielsen85> *We apologize but we do not currently support this action, for your protection.*
#1672 [13:20] <|Kiikun|> Nielsen85: theres no system currently in place and dont know how long simple emailing mojang to change it would take... if they even did anything
#1673 [13:20] <|Kiikun|> :/
#1674 [13:20] <Nielsen85> I couldn't find an email adr. to them either
#1675 [13:20] <Nielsen85> or else I would have sent them an e-mail about my prob.
#1676 [13:21] <|Kiikun|> because the only one is so full of spam :P try out the getsatisfaction.com link?
#1677 [13:21] <Nielsen85> no?
#1678 [13:22] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: do the mojang crew check out getsatisfaction?
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#1680 [13:25] <mr> Hello im having trouble with my minecraft ive just bought it in the last 30 minutes and when i try to go on it it works untill i try to update it so i can play with my friends when it says 'Fatal Error Occured(4): C\Users\my pc name\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\lwjgl.jar (Access is denied) please help i really want this game to work!
#1681 [13:26] <|Kiikun|> ??> mr win/reinst
#1682 [13:26] <VoxelHead> mr: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1683 [13:26] <VoxelHead> mr: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1685 [13:26] <mr> okay thanks for the reply
#1686 [13:27] <|Kiikun|> mr: if it says it again, then update java
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#1688 [13:30] <mib_iel85y> try froce updating
#1689 [13:30] <mr> i think its worked all though it wont download i deleted everything but it seems to be downloading in the browser thanks
#1690 [13:30] <george> hey i have a problem with minecraft, when i log in to the downloadable version it stays on a page sying minecraft updating then done uploading underneath with the green progress bar. this has only started happening since I downloaded 1.9 prerelease. any ideas? thanks.
#1691 [13:31] <|Kiikun|> george: try disabling your antivirus.
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#1693 [13:32] <george> That doesn't work
#1694 [13:33] <|Kiikun|> george: and try a forceupdate to revert back to 1.8.1 your comp might not liek the prerelease
#1695 [13:35] <george> How do I force update (im not very clever)
#1696 [13:35] <|Kiikun|> ?? forceupdate
#1697 [13:35] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1698 [13:35] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1699 [13:35] <george> cool thanks
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#1704 [13:46] <checkeredknight> Hey Wug, are you around?
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#1706 [13:48] <mib_iel85y> If you have brought minecraft and you have downloaded it but it does not work. Try going in to the start menu click on run then type in %appdata% minecraft should come up at the top. If it does delete the minecraft file. After that go back on to minecraft. Download minecraft then log in. If that does not work then i don't know.
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#1710 [13:50] <serenechaos> hey guys.. I am running debian linux. my server is up and running fine. yet, when I run java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar -server localhost:25565 it errors out. I tried reading over the wiki and got nothing. what command am I not giving my client? thank you.
#1711 [13:51] <|Kiikun|> serenechaos: um... thats the minecraft SERVER jar?
#1712 [13:52] <|Kiikun|> not just the minecraft jar?
#1713 [13:53] <serenechaos> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar runs the server.. it is just fine.
#1714 [13:53] <serenechaos> I am trying to now load the minecraft.jar so I can connect to my server
#1715 [13:53] <serenechaos> :)
#1716 [13:54] <|Kiikun|> serenechaos: just load it normally and put the server in the multiplayer login stuff <.<
#1717 [13:55] <serenechaos> yes.. that is what I am asking about thought.. when I just type java minecraft.jar I get an error message; Usage: java [-options] class [args...]
#1718 [13:55] <serenechaos> though*
#1719 [13:56] <|Kiikun|> i have a feeling its erroring out because it has no idea what the -server flag is ^^;
#1720 [13:57] <serenechaos> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar -server 192.168.1.91:25565
#1721 [13:57] <serenechaos> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 192/168/1/91:25565
#1722 [13:57] <|Kiikun|> yeah
#1723 [13:57] <|Kiikun|> remove the -server and IP tags
#1724 [13:58] <serenechaos> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar it dumps the help info
#1725 [13:58] <serenechaos> as if it is waiting for a flag :)
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#1728 [13:59] <serenechaos> forgive my ignorance, but I did try reading the wiki about start commands.. and it says "start the client" without giving me the command to start it.. lol
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#1730 [13:59] <|Kiikun|> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1731 [13:59] <|Kiikun|> serenechaos: wiki page link please? i dont see that
#1732 [14:00] <nuvque> Hi, I was wondering if someone here might be able to help me with a problem I'm having with minecraft?
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#1734 [14:00] <serenechaos> http://pastebin.ca/2083295
#1735 [14:00] <|Kiikun|> nuvque: sure. just ask and we can help
#1736 [14:01] <|Kiikun|> serenechaos: which minecraft.jar is this? the client or the one in /bin/?
#1737 [14:01] <nuvque> Basically, I am running Windows 7 64 bit on an i7 quad core processor, 8gb ram, a 3gb graphics card (Nvidia) and my internet connection is an actual 15 mb download 3 gb upload internet connection
#1738 [14:02] <xales> nuvque: So...what's the issue?
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#1740 [14:02] <nuvque> the problem is, I can't actually play the game properly, at all, it works most of the time on tiny draw distance, but still get these huge spikes where the game freezes for several seconds
#1741 [14:03] <serenechaos> |Kiikun|, this is what I downloaded https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar and that is what I am trying to execute from ~/home/user :)
#1742 [14:03] <xales> Is this computer a laptop?
#1743 [14:03] <xales> nuvque: ^
#1744 [14:03] <nuvque> i have tried every suggestion, programs to buff the fps, setting java to high priority, allowing my graphics card to recognise minecraft as a game and not an application, etc
#1745 [14:03] <|Kiikun|> serenechaos: redownload the client
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#1747 [14:03] <nuvque> its a laptop, dell xps L702x specifically
#1748 [14:03] <xales> nuvque: Have you tried simply reinstalling Minecraft, or updating the video card driver?
#1749 [14:04] <nuvque> i have tried that, i have also tried running it in a browser
#1750 [14:04] <xales> nuvque: I believe that uses nVidia Optimus, which is almost certainly the issue.
#1751 [14:04] <nuvque> yes my video card driver is fully updated
#1752 [14:04] <xales> Find a way to disable the Intel card, so it uses only the nvidia one
#1753 [14:04] <xales> that should fix it.
#1754 [14:04] <xales> (you can probably do that in the BIOS)
#1755 [14:04] <nuvque> i have done that, every time i open minecraft it disables the intel card
#1756 [14:04] <|Kiikun|> xales: GreyVulpine was sayign something about optimus earlier... something like setting it to use tyhe nvidia instead of the intel
#1757 [14:05] <xales> nuvque: No, I mean disable it completely
#1758 [14:05] <serenechaos> |Kiikun|, I deleted it, re-downloaded the .jar and getting the same error as my pastebin.
#1759 [14:05] <xales> so the system does not even provide it power
#1760 [14:05] <xales> and is forced to use _only_ the nvidia card
#1761 [14:05] <xales> the problem is that it's using the Intel card - there's really no other explanation for that problem
#1762 [14:06] <nuvque> but even so, my intel card is a 1gb, it should still be able to handle that? if that is the problem i mean
#1763 [14:06] <xales> no
#1764 [14:06] <xales> Intel cards cannot handle running Minecraft. Not a single one can
#1765 [14:06] <xales> Hell, they can hardly handle Windows Aero
#1766 [14:06] <xales> and it's not actually 1GB
#1767 [14:06] <xales> it just steals that from the system
#1768 [14:06] <nuvque> ok, so have you any instructions on how to do this in the bios?
#1769 [14:07] <xales> Try Googling it, I'm not familiar with Dell's products
#1770 [14:07] <xales> "disable intel gpu nvidia optimus"
#1771 [14:07] <xales> google that.
#1772 [14:07] <serenechaos> |Kiikun|, is it supposed to just be just 89kb as well?
#1773 [14:07] <|Kiikun|> serenechaos: check if you can update java. or reinstall it.
#1774 [14:07] <nuvque> ok, i'll try that now and see what happens if that fixes it
#1775 [14:07] <|Kiikun|> serenechaos: yes. its 89kb
#1776 [14:08] <|Kiikun|> serenechaos: the win and mac ones are only larger because theyre made executable.
#1777 [14:08] <nuvque> i did that this morning and that didn't change anything. I tried to install the new beta java but they don't have a 64 bit one yet
#1778 [14:08] <Wug> people need to lurk more.
#1779 [14:08] <|Kiikun|> nuvque: you mean java7? :P *is java7 64bit
#1780 [14:08] <|Kiikun|> Wug: hi
#1781 [14:09] <serenechaos> I have java 6.26 installed.. does it require a newer version?
#1782 [14:09] <|Kiikun|> serenechaos: 6.27 is newest.
#1783 [14:09] <Wug> that should be sufficient
#1784 [14:09] <Wug> it definitely worked on 6.26
#1785 [14:09] <serenechaos> |Kiikun|, I had thought so, as I grabbed the packages from them specifically.
#1786 [14:09] <serenechaos> so, back to my .jar file then.. ll
#1787 [14:09] <serenechaos> lol
#1788 [14:09] <|Kiikun|> Wug: if you havent been lurking long... serenechaos apparently gets errors trying to open the client... liek it doesnt even know its own classes
#1789 [14:10] <serenechaos> http://pastebin.ca/2083295 is the error message Wug
#1790 [14:10] <serenechaos> I am running linux (Ubuntu 11.04) as well to help
#1791 [14:10] <Wug> cd to the right directory
#1792 [14:11] <Wug> and isnt it net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1793 [14:11] <Wug> instead of /'s
#1794 [14:11] <Wug> or does that not matter
#1795 [14:11] <xales> just let the jar decide
#1796 [14:11] <xales> leave it off
#1797 [14:11] <serenechaos> it is just a jar file.. no directories
#1798 [14:11] <xales> and it does matter
#1799 [14:11] <xales> don't specify a class to run
#1800 [14:11] <xales> the default is correct. hurr
#1801 [14:11] <Wug> ^
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#1803 [14:12] <serenechaos> to recap.. I downloaded the server.jar, it is running fine.. no problems. I downloaded the minecraft.jar from the site and it was just a jar.. no directories made.
#1804 [14:12] <serenechaos> so.. what am I missing then? :)
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#1806 [14:12] <xales> java -jar minecraft.jar
#1807 [14:12] <xales> ^ run nothing but that
#1808 [14:12] <|Kiikun|> AuBot: shut up.
#1809 [14:12] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1810 [14:12] <Dodo> download minecraft.exe ?
#1811 [14:13] <|Kiikun|> Dodo: exes are windows only.
#1812 [14:13] <Wug> Dodo: ask a question
#1813 [14:13] <|Kiikun|> Dodo: and clients are available at http://www.minecraft.net/download if that was your question
#1814 [14:14] <Dodo> oh sry didnt know what os .
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#1816 [14:14] <Dodo> another question: i get the "cant connect to minecraft.net" error every time. with old AND new launcher
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#1818 [14:15] <xales> Dodo: Try turning off your firewall
#1819 [14:15] <|Kiikun|> Dodo: old launcher doesnt work anyway. only use the new launcher. and check that java has access to the internet
#1820 [14:15] <|Kiikun|> by doing what xales said :P
#1821 [14:15] <Dodo> i'll try that, thx
#1822 [14:16] <serenechaos> so... officially an idiot.. I apologize guys.. when I pasted |Kiikun| 's command, it was minecraft.jar not Minecraft.jar
#1823 [14:16] <serenechaos> fixed now.
#1824 [14:16] <|Kiikun|> rofl...
#1825 [14:17] <serenechaos> duh moment for the day.
#1826 [14:17] <|Kiikun|> considering i copied it directly from the downloads page.. i think i knolw what that guy was talking about
#1827 [14:17] <Wug> :launch
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#1829 [14:17] <Wug> ;+ launch java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1830 [14:17] <WugBot> Done.
#1831 [14:18] <|Kiikun|> Wug: there an index?
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#1834 [14:18] <Wug> |Kiikun|: I can send you the factoid file if yoiu need it
#1835 [14:18] <Wug> but no, there is not at this point
#1836 [14:18] <serenechaos> hah.. of course, now I am getting: user not premium error. I had hoped, if I ran my own server, it would be a bit easier to load lol
#1837 [14:18] <|Kiikun|> eh.. just curious :P dont really need it
#1838 [14:18] <evonava> I have a server on a pay site. I dont understand how to set it up so that wife can use any of the bukkit/essentials commands. /sethome etc..etc.. help?
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#1840 [14:19] <Wug> evonava: we don't support bukkit here, ask in #bukkit
#1841 [14:19] <serenechaos> I suppose, the better question to ask.. do I have to pay to play the game whatsoever? even if just my own server?
#1842 [14:20] <evonava> I get that. but even if you use no plugins atall. you still have to be able to give someone admin or officer or whatever rights and abilities.
#1843 [14:20] * |Kiikun| preps for repeated crashing by trying out 1.9
#1843 [14:20] <|Kiikun|> serenechaos: no pay to play beyong buying the game
#1844 [14:20] <Wug> evonava: I've never used bukkit. We all specialize in making vanilla minecraft work. you're barking up the wrong tree. ask in #bukkit
#1845 [14:21] <Wug> serenechaos: to play beta, yes.
#1846 [14:21] <evonava> ok. your stuck on bukkit. maybe i am not asking this right.
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#1849 [14:21] <evonava> how do you set up permissions?
#1850 [14:21] <Wug> permissions is a BUKKIT PLUGIN
#1851 [14:21] <Wug> ask in #bukkit
#1852 [14:21] <evonava> I see.
#1853 [14:22] <evonava> tahnk you for your time.
#1854 [14:22] <Wug> np
#1855 [14:22] <Wug> :/
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#1857 [14:22] <DopeGhoti> ??+ 1.9/snow|falling snow, in the 1.9 pre-release, destroys torches, redstone and rails. the snow cap block over rides torches, rails, and redstone.
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#1862 [14:30] <Jacers> how do I check a server IP here?
#1863 [14:30] <Jacers> I saw someone do it to make sure the server was live
#1864 [14:30] <Valerie> Oh one question, out of curiousity
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#1866 [14:30] <TheNoodle> !check or something I think.
#1867 [14:30] <TheNoodle> lol
#1868 [14:31] <Valerie> is Minecraft friendly with the xbox 360 controllers?
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#1870 [14:31] <Valerie> or do i need to use xpadder to play it?
#1871 [14:31] <TheNoodle> Valerie, I've used it but it's a bit average :/
#1872 [14:31] <Valerie> ahh
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#1874 [14:31] <Jacers> !check 76.115.161.0:777
#1875 [14:31] <Jacers> !check 76.115.161.0:7777
#1876 [14:32] <Valerie> how do you mean by average?
#1877 [14:32] <TheNoodle> It sucks.
#1878 [14:33] <Valerie> lol
#1879 [14:33] <Valerie> how does it handle aiming?
#1880 [14:34] <Valerie> does it automatically use the left or right stick?
#1881 [14:34] <Zw> !check mc.zwirc.com
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#1884 [14:36] <TheNoodle> Valerie, I mapped the xbox controller to keyboard buttons
#1885 [14:36] <Sinistrahd> joy2key is a decent freeware for doing that
#1886 [14:37] <Sinistrahd> pinnacle is good if you wanna pay for something with pre-formatted mappings available for lots of games
#1887 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> Jacers: I'm almost entirely certain that, but for odd cases, a valie IP address cannot end in zero.
#1888 [14:38] <Sinistrahd> don't recall if they've got any setups for minecraft
#1889 [14:38] <DopeGhoti> or a valid one
#1890 [14:39] <Sinistrahd> dopeghoti: yeah, there'd be nothing for the default mask to latch onto with a 0
#1891 [14:41] <Jacers> dopeghoti when I check my IP in my router thats what I get ><
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#1894 [14:44] <Croc777> Please help me... Minecraft isn't running. At all.
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#1898 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jacers ip/wan
#1899 [14:47] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jacers ip/external
#1900 [14:47] <VoxelHead> Jacers: (ip/external) Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#1901 [14:47] <VoxelHead> Jacers: (ip/external) Or just say "!myip" and aubot will tell you.
#1902 [14:49] <Jacers> !myip
#1903 [14:49] <Jacers> see :-/
#1904 [14:50] <Wug> its probably port forwarding
#1905 [14:50] <Wug> if its not that, its firewalls
#1906 [14:50] <Jacers> just realized I didnt check windoz firewall on my server pc
#1907 [14:51] <Wug> add java and javaw as exceptions
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#1909 [14:52] <mib_bo334v> hello
#1910 [14:52] <mib_bo334v> anyone find a fix for updating 1.8?
#1911 [14:52] <Wug> what's wrong with it
#1912 [14:52] <DopeGhoti> Jacers: you probably have a very odd subnet
#1913 [14:52] <mib_bo334v> it keeps freezing when i update, ive done everything. reinstall.
#1914 [14:53] <mib_bo334v> disabled my firewall, deleted all minecraft folders on APPDATA, checked the host file, re-installed the .exe. and NOTHINGS working. i am a web developer & debugger. and this aint fixin!!
#1915 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_bo334v won/profile
#1916 [14:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_bo334v win/profile
#1917 [14:53] <VoxelHead> mib_bo334v: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1918 [14:53] <VoxelHead> mib_bo334v: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1919 [14:53] <mib_bo334v> i can login fine
#1920 [14:53] <Wug> eh screw it
#1921 [14:53] <Wug> :tv > mib_bo334v
#1922 [14:53] <WugBot> mib_bo334v: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1923 [14:53] <WugBot> mib_bo334v: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1924 [14:53] <WugBot> mib_bo334v: (tv) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1925 [14:54] <mib_bo334v> uhh
#1926 [14:54] <mib_bo334v> who are you again.
#1927 [14:54] <Wug> read the whole thing
#1928 [14:54] <mib_bo334v> i have.
#1929 [14:54] <Wug> all 3 lines?
#1930 [14:54] <mib_bo334v> i dont know if i can let you do that.
#1931 [14:54] <mib_bo334v> yes.
#1932 [14:54] <Wug> including how to pm?
#1933 [14:54] <mib_bo334v> ya
#1934 [14:54] <mib_bo334v> is it safe?
#1935 [14:54] <DopeGhoti> as safe as anyhting on IRC can be
#1936 [14:54] <Wug> as long as you pm the id and pass directly
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#1939 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> The ops here are trustworthy, else they wouldn't have ops.
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#1941 [14:55] <lukegb> Hence why I'm not an op.
#1942 [14:55] <lukegb> QED :3
#1943 [14:55] * Wug bans lukegb
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#1945 [14:56] <Wug> teehee
#1946 [14:56] <Morrolan> You totally did not see anything. *waves hand*
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#1948 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Ah, we love you too lukegb.
#1949 [14:57] <Wug> mibbit y u no load page
#1950 [14:57] <lukegb> (:
#1951 [14:57] <mib_bo334v> what did lukedb do?
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#1953 [14:57] <Ryladine> Hey guys
#1954 [14:57] <mib_bo334v> oh hey!
#1955 [14:57] <mib_bo334v> hey ryladine
#1956 [14:58] <Ryladine> Hi mib, no idea who you are.
#1957 [14:58] <Ryladine> XD
#1958 [14:58] <mib_bo334v> haha
#1959 [14:58] * mib_wugwug [mib_wugwug@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1960 [14:58] <mib_bo334v> yesterday
#1961 [14:58] * dr_bibble [dr_bibble@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1962 [14:58] <mib_bo334v> my updating wont work
#1963 [14:58] <mib_bo334v> 1.8
#1964 [14:58] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine never trusts me, just stabs me
#1965 [14:58] <Ryladine> Mib's get new names every time they connect
#1966 [14:58] <mib_bo334v> yeah
#1967 [14:58] <mib_wugwug> TheNytangel: I get stabbed a lot too
#1968 [14:58] <Guest3515> fffff
#1969 [14:58] <mib_bo334v> im the dude whose 1.8 kept freeyzying while updating
#1970 [14:58] <mib_bo334v> freezing*
#1971 [14:58] <Ryladine> Ah
#1972 [14:58] <Ryladine> Sorry I couldn't solve that for you
#1973 [14:59] <mib_bo334v> okay.
#1974 [14:59] <mib_bo334v> thats fine
#1975 [14:59] <mib_bo334v> teamviewer?
#1976 [14:59] <mib_bo334v> wugbot?
#1977 [14:59] <mib_wugwug> here I thought mibbit used secure connections by default, but apparently it doesnt.
#1978 [14:59] <mib_wugwug> send it to me or wug
#1979 [14:59] <mib_wugwug> (we're the same person)
#1980 [14:59] <TheNytangel> mib_wugwug == Wug
#1981 [14:59] <TheNytangel> :P
#1982 [14:59] <mib_bo334v> ohh
#1983 [14:59] <Ryladine> wug is wugwug, wug, and wugbot, though I don't know if he can see the msg's to wugbot
#1984 [15:00] <mib_wugwug> I was checking if mibbit uses secure connections
#1985 [15:00] <Ryladine> lol
#1986 [15:00] <mib_wugwug> Ryladine: I can forward them to myself, its a setting
#1987 [15:00] <Ryladine> Nice
#1988 [15:00] <mib_bo334v> im pming you
#1989 [15:00] <mib_wugwug> I noticed
#1990 [15:00] <mib_bo334v> oh kk
#1991 [15:00] <Ryladine> lol
#1992 [15:01] <mib_wugwug> I keep forgetting I'm on linux
#1993 [15:01] <TheNytangel> mib_wugwug, I sent you id pass
#1994 [15:02] <Jacers> so I have the ports opened in my router, and they work on this computer. but when I check them on my server PC the ports are not working.
#1995 [15:03] <Jacers> they're both done the same way for this PC and the server, so they should be working. I even disabled windoz FW
#1996 [15:03] <TheNytangel> Jacers, windoz?
#1997 [15:03] <TheNytangel> Never heard of it
#1998 [15:03] <Jacers> windows
#1999 [15:03] <Wug> !paid trixmasta
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#2001 [15:05] <mib_bo334v> wtf
#2002 [15:06] <mib_bo334v> your file opened minecraft completely fine!
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#2004 [15:06] <mib_bo334v> im so lost.
#2005 [15:06] <mib_bo334v> how come the main minecraft .exe wouldnt open?
#2006 [15:06] <mib_bo334v> i mean update*
#2007 [15:06] <Wug> go back to pm
#2008 [15:08] <Jacers> anyone have any clue why one of my PCs will forward ports fine, but the other one will not?
#2009 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> you're doing it wrong?
#2010 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> hint: Your PCs don't do the port forwarding; your router does.
#2011 [15:09] <Jacers> well I mean, I opened the ports on this PC and it works
#2012 [15:09] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, do different PCs have different IPv4s?
#2013 [15:09] <Jacers> and I repeated the process on the other pc using it's internal addy
#2014 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> That's.. sorta the point of an ip address TheNytangel
#2015 [15:09] <Jacers> and it doesnt work
#2016 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> "its"; not "it's".
#2017 [15:09] <TheNytangel> :P
#2018 [15:09] <DopeGhoti> Jacers: can you telnet fromone machine on your LAN to the other one on the correct port?
#2019 [15:10] <Jacers> havent tried
#2020 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> ..do.
#2021 [15:10] <xales> o/ DopeGhoti
#2022 [15:10] <DopeGhoti> \o xales
#2023 [15:10] <Jacers> says cant open on port
#2024 [15:10] * GreyVulpine grins.
#2024 [15:10] <Jacers> telnet 192.168.1.108:25565 right?
#2025 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> no colon; use a space
#2026 [15:11] <TheNytangel> No
#2027 [15:11] <TheNytangel> You
#2028 [15:11] * TheNytangel disappears
#2028 [15:11] <Jacers> ok ya still didnt work
#2029 [15:11] <xales> :<
#2030 [15:11] <Jacers> says port is closed
#2031 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> define "didnt work"
#2032 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> okay
#2033 [15:11] <xales> bah
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#2036 [15:11] <DopeGhoti> that means the server is not running on the destination PC
#2037 [15:11] <Jacers> er says connect failed
#2038 [15:12] <Jacers> *palmface let me start the server
#2039 [15:12] <xales> :<
#2040 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2041 [15:12] <xales> hah
#2042 [15:12] <Wug> ;voice xales
#2043 [15:12] <xales> SO MANY VOICES
#2044 [15:12] <xales> IN MY HEAD
#2045 [15:12] * xales runs
#2045 [15:12] <DopeGhoti> Joiiiiin Ussssss.
#2046 [15:12] <Wug> .set mode xales +v
#2047 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> We are Pendium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
#2048 [15:13] <xales> DopeGhoti: Where do you think I'm going? I'm just picking up the donuts for the welcoming party
#2049 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> mmm, donuts
#2050 [15:13] <Jacers> ok so now when I telnet it connects? the screen goes blank
#2051 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> Jacers: good. that means the server us up and the connection can be made internally
#2052 [15:13] <Jacers> at least, it doesnt say anything error wise
#2053 [15:13] <DopeGhoti> now double-check the port forwarding settings on your router
#2054 [15:13] <xales> well, I'm off for now
#2055 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> verify that the port is going to the proper LAN IP address
#2056 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> then use canyouseemee.org to check whether the forward is working properly
#2057 [15:14] <DopeGhoti> (or the !check command here)
#2058 [15:14] <mib_wugwug> !ping
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#2060 [15:14] <GreyBot> mib_wugwug Your Ping time was 0.296 seconds.
#2061 [15:15] <Jacers> does it matter if I check it on this PC or on the actual server pc?
#2062 [15:15] <Wug> Jacers: actual server pc
#2063 [15:15] <Wug> :D
#2064 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> it's better to check on a different PC from the server itself.
#2065 [15:15] <DopeGhoti> this way you ensure that the network connection isn't just using the loopback stack
#2066 [15:16] <Jacers> well when i check 25565 on canyouseeme.org it says it cant
#2067 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> to the router, then
#2068 [15:16] <blip2> workin
#2069 [15:16] <Wug> Jacers: what is the server's ip
#2070 [15:16] <DopeGhoti> check your settings.
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#2072 [15:17] <Jacers> Wug 76.115.161.0:25565
#2073 [15:17] <Wug> you and it are on the same internal network?
#2074 [15:17] <guest-0-26653> how do i instal a mod
#2075 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> Jacers: once again: go to your router's configuration
#2076 [15:17] <guest-0-26653> i downloaded it but dunno what to do next
#2077 [15:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> guest-0-26653 mods
#2078 [15:17] <VoxelHead> guest-0-26653: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#2079 [15:17] <Wug> ?? mods > guest-0-26653
#2080 [15:17] <VoxelHead> guest-0-26653: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2081 [15:18] <Jacers> wug yes we're on the same router
#2082 [15:18] <Wug> derp
#2083 [15:18] <Wug> :mods
#2084 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> Jacers: verify that it's set to forward to the IP you think it's set to
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#2087 [15:19] <Jacers> yea double,triple checked the ip on the server PC and it's right. port 25565 tcp/udp for 192.168.1.108 (server addy)
#2088 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> and the external port and internal port are the same?
#2089 [15:19] <Jacers> !check 76.115.161.0:25565
#2090 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> and you are certain the LAN IP of the server is indeed .108?
#2091 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> 161.0?
#2092 [15:20] <Wug> ;+ mods This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit. You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall;;You can also find lots of mod installation tutorials on YouTube, Such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc25V1PzCqc (Minecraft- How to Install Mods)
#2093 [15:20] <WugBot> Done.
#2094 [15:20] <Jacers> ya when I check ipconfig that's what it gives me
#2095 [15:20] <Wug> Jacers: you checked the ipconfig of the server, not the computer you're using, right?
#2096 [15:20] <Jacers> Greyvulpine every IP checker tool gives me that IP, also ipconfig and my router settings all say 161.0
#2097 [15:20] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2097 [15:20] <Jacers> wug yea on the serrver pc
#2098 [15:21] <Wug> can you run teamviewer on the server pc
#2099 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> Wug: Why did you just send the same FAQ, three minutes later, to a user to had already left?
#2100 [15:21] <Wug> DopeGhoti: I didnt send it, I defined it
#2101 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> ah.
#2102 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> ..and why do we need a second -- nay, a third-- FAQ bot?
#2103 [15:22] <Wug> because the internet is flaky sometimes
#2104 [15:22] <DopeGhoti> Wug: thus Understudy, which is on a different network
#2105 [15:22] <Wug> and also because Wug lieks botz
#2106 [15:22] <Jacers> !check 76.115.161.1:25565
#2107 [15:22] <Jacers> ports, you are the bane to my existence
#2108 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> Jacers: if it's working internally but not externally, it is definitely a problem with your router's configuration.
#2109 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> tracert, see network topology?
#2110 [15:23] <Jacers> ok, i'll keep digging around the router then and see if I cant get it to work
#2111 [15:23] <DopeGhoti> Jacers: are you possibly running behind two routers?
#2112 [15:24] <Jacers> dont think so, just goes from modem to my netgear to my PCs
#2113 [15:24] <DopeGhoti> are you certain your modem is not also a router?
#2114 [15:24] <Jacers> thats what I was just thinking looking at it
#2115 [15:25] <Jacers> it doesnt have multiple cat5 connections, just the one out
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#2117 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> that means nothing.
#2118 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> ..what is the LAN IP of your router?
#2119 [15:25] <DopeGhoti> and what is your PC's "Default Gateway"?
#2120 [15:26] <|Kiikun|> oohhh... double-ravine :D
#2121 [15:26] <Jacers> default gateway is 192.168.1.1
#2122 [15:26] <Wug> :tv > jacers
#2123 [15:26] <WugBot> jacers: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2124 [15:26] <WugBot> jacers: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#2125 [15:26] <Wug> run on the server
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#2127 [15:27] <Wug> ;+ read Please read the entire thing.
#2128 [15:27] <WugBot> Done.
#2129 [15:28] <Jacers> kk
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#2131 [15:29] <|Kiikun|> Wug: aw... cant make it rtfm?
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#2133 [15:29] <Wug> define it
#2134 [15:30] <|Kiikun|> Wug: o.o you never heard of 'read the f***in' manual/message'?
#2135 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> it: Gender neutral, singular, indefinite article
#2136 [15:30] <Jacers> lol
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#2138 [15:30] <|Kiikun|> DopeGhoti: point!
#2139 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> ..s/in//
#2140 [15:31] <Jacers> ib4tl
#2141 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> (the indefinite article would be 'a')
#2142 [15:31] <Wug> |Kiikun|: course I have, read is for something else
#2143 [15:32] <Jacers> it's strange that the minecraft server doesnt work, cause I can host servers on Steam just fine
#2144 [15:32] <Wug> |Kiikun|: ;+ rtfm textgoeshere
#2145 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> ;+ rtfm Read the friendly manual.
#2146 [15:33] <WugBot> Done.
#2147 [15:34] * GreyVulpine pokes DG
#2147 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Oh hey, meant to ask you DG, Vox doesn't have support for FAQs beyond 2 lines..
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#2149 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Can't do multi ;;s
#2150 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> that's by design
#2151 [15:34] <DopeGhoti> all the better to not flood the channel with, my dear.
#2152 [15:34] <Wug> teehee
#2153 [15:35] <Wug> wugbots limit is currently set to 3 lines
#2154 [15:35] * GreyVulpine shrugs and nods
#2154 [15:35] <DopeGhoti> (If it needs more than two lines, it should probably be two FAQs)
#2155 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> Hit that last week, when I was trying to set up:
#2156 [15:35] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/10.5.8
#2157 [15:35] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#2158 [15:35] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#2159 [15:36] <|Kiikun|> lol
#2160 [15:36] <Jacers> is it normal for my subnet mask to be 255.255.248.0? used to seeing 255.255.255.0
#2161 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> Jacers: it's valid; just.. odd.
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#2163 [15:37] <Jacers> im thinking I might just reboot my modem
#2164 [15:37] <Jacers> comcast I blame you
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#2166 [15:38] <Jacers> dopeghoti i like how everything about my network is.. odd
#2167 [15:38] <Wug> Jacers: I'm connected, read your pms
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#2169 [15:40] <|Kiikun|> Jacers: you using a router from comcast? or one of those router-modems?
#2170 [15:41] <Wug> |Kiikun|: whats the argument to allow software opengl
#2171 [15:41] <|Kiikun|> Wug: wish i knew o.o
#2172 [15:41] <Wug> TheNytangel: you there
#2173 [15:41] <Wug> I think he discovered it
#2174 [15:41] <TheNytangel> Depends
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#2176 [15:42] <Wug> TheNytangel: whats the argument to allow software opengl
#2177 [15:42] <TheNytangel> O.o
#2178 [15:42] <TheNytangel> You think I know?
#2179 [15:42] <DopeGhoti> Why is it not in the FAQ DB?
#2180 [15:42] <Wug> someone discovered this magical java argument
#2181 [15:42] <Wug> DopeGhoti: it was practically useless
#2182 [15:42] <Wug> fps was horrible
#2183 [15:42] <TheNytangel> Let me refrase that
#2184 [15:42] <TheNytangel> You think *I* know?
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#2187 [15:43] <Jacers> kiikun it's a modem.. not sure if it's a router modem. one of their phone/internet modems
#2188 [15:44] <Jacers> and then a netgear router
#2189 [15:44] <spykillyou> Hey everyone, so I'm having a problem. When I join my own hamachi ran server, I freeze then crash. But my friend is playing on it with no problems right now! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90eMVQVPjzo
#2190 [15:45] <spykillyou> I really want to play it
#2191 [15:45] <|Kiikun|> ??> spykillyou fubar/hamachi
#2192 [15:45] <VoxelHead> spykillyou: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2193 [15:45] <VoxelHead> spykillyou: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2194 [15:45] <Wug> found it, its -Dorg.lwjgl.opengl.Display.allowSoftwareOpenGL=true
#2195 [15:45] <Wug> I think
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#2197 [15:46] <|Kiikun|> Wug: wont force it, but allows it to use it.
#2198 [15:46] * neersighted [neersighted@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2199 [15:46] * |Kiikun| was just googling and found that same switch
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#2201 [15:47] <spykillyou> but its just me not able to connect to it, my friend is currently playing it
#2202 [15:48] <spykillyou> withn no problems
#2203 [15:48] <spykillyou> with*
#2204 [15:48] <Jacers> are you hosting the server onyour own pc
#2205 [15:48] <spykillyou> indeed
#2206 [15:48] <|Kiikun|> spykillyou: its using hamachi. hamachi is borked.
#2207 [15:48] <Jacers> what address are you connecting to
#2208 [15:48] <Wug> there it goes
#2209 [15:48] <spykillyou> 5.122.228.64 its a hamachi
#2210 [15:48] <Wug> doesnt like -jar, wants -cp mc.exe net.minecraft.launcherframe
#2211 [15:49] <Jacers> i've always seen people have to connect to their internal ip when connecting to their own server
#2212 [15:49] <Jacers> like 192.168.1.XXX
#2213 [15:49] <spykillyou> hm
#2214 [15:49] <Jacers> worth a shot
#2215 [15:49] <Wug> omg the framerate
#2216 [15:49] <Jacers> wug is hating on my servers onboard graphics
#2217 [15:49] <spykillyou> the weird thing is though, I was playing one day, and while building my MC crashed, and its been happening ever since
#2218 [15:50] <Jacers> considering how everyone is saying hamachi is broken, i would assume that's the issue.
#2219 [15:50] <spykillyou> but i wouldnt think that
#2220 [15:50] <spykillyou> since someone 8is currently on it
#2221 [15:50] <spykillyou> is*
#2222 [15:50] <Wug> Jacers: they're hating on me actually
#2223 [15:50] <Jacers> ;D
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#2225 [15:52] <Hitesh> Help please!
#2226 [15:52] <Jacers> spykillyou only other thing I cna think of is maybe you're running a different version than the server. IE you updated but the server and your friend didnt
#2227 [15:52] <Wug> ...
#2228 [15:52] <Jacers> Asside from that I would just try running a real dedicated server w/o hamachi
#2229 [15:52] <Hitesh> looking to buy minecraft, but cannot seem to play free demo version, so want to resolve this issue first, befoe purchasing the beta
#2230 [15:52] <Wug> Jacers: it was forwarded to 2 internal ip,s the other one was first
#2231 [15:52] <Wug> you're not allowed to do that
#2232 [15:52] <Hitesh> i keep getting this message
#2233 [15:52] <Jacers> wug oh
#2234 [15:52] <Wug> ;ip Jacers
#2235 [15:52] <WugBot> IP address of Jacers is: 76.115.161.0
#2236 [15:53] <Wug> !check 76.115.161.0
#2237 [15:53] <Jacers> wug i know some things, but there is still a lot I dont know
#2238 [15:53] <Hitesh> !unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack!
#2239 [15:53] * Wug clicks save
#2239 [15:53] <Wug> !check 76.115.161.0
#2240 [15:53] <Wug> fix'd
#2241 [15:53] <Jacers> !
#2242 [15:53] <Jacers> awesome
#2243 [15:53] <Hitesh> "unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack" what does this mean?
#2244 [15:53] <Jacers> so I just had it forwarded to two places essentially?
#2245 [15:54] <Wug> yep
#2246 [15:54] <Wug> the wrong one was first
#2247 [15:54] <Jacers> lol ya thats my pc
#2248 [15:54] <Wug> so the second wasnt getting any traffic
#2249 [15:54] <Jacers> im understanding forwarding a bit more now
#2250 [15:54] <Wug> OWWW
#2251 [15:54] <Jacers> figured it was like, just open things and you're ok
#2252 [15:54] <Wug> I JUST SPMASHED MY ELBOW ON MY DESK REALY HARD
#2253 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Hitesh - Try uninstalling/reinstalling java. If that doesn't work, your security software may be blocking java from downloading files
#2254 [15:54] <Jacers> lol
#2255 [15:54] <Wug> FSBGDSGTJDYJHTY
#2256 [15:55] <Hitesh> okay, thanks ill try that. much appreciated! xx
#2257 [15:55] <Jacers> Wug thanks for all the help
#2258 [15:55] <Wug> GreyVulpine: you got my message the other day about how to force a java reinstall right?
#2259 [15:55] <Wug> Jacers: np
#2260 [15:55] <spykillyou> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90eMVQVPjzo
#2261 [15:55] <spykillyou> this is my problem
#2262 [15:55] <spykillyou> i tried my internal ip too
#2263 [15:56] <|Kiikun|> ;+ lwjgl/softgl -Dorg.lwjgl.opengl.Display.allowSoftwareOpenGL=true
#2264 [15:56] <WugBot> Done.
#2265 [15:56] <|Kiikun|> :D
#2266 [15:56] <|Kiikun|> there. recorded :3
#2267 [15:56] <Wug> i'm defining another one, so I'mma delete that one -.-
#2268 [15:56] <|Kiikun|> org.lwjgl.opengl.Window.undecorated sounds like a fun setting too :P
#2269 [15:56] <Wug> mine's a bit more general
#2270 [15:57] <spykillyou> Anyone?
#2271 [15:57] <|Kiikun|> wug ok
#2272 [15:57] <spykillyou> have any other solutions?
#2273 [15:57] <spykillyou> cause im stumped
#2274 [15:57] <spykillyou> I have no other places to turn too
#2275 [15:58] <|Kiikun|> spykillyou: forceupdate minecraft. you said you crashed and this started, right?
#2276 [15:58] <Wug> ;+ launch/softgl java -Dorg.lwjgl.opengl.Display.allowSoftwareOpenGL=true -cp Minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2277 [15:58] <WugBot> Done.
#2278 [15:58] <spykillyou> yes
#2279 [15:58] <Wug> ;- lwjgl/softgl
#2280 [15:58] <WugBot> Done.
#2281 [15:58] <spykillyou> okay ill try it
#2282 [15:58] <Wug> spykillyou: issue is hamachi
#2283 [15:58] <Wug> remove it
#2284 [15:58] <Wug> port forward properly
#2285 [15:59] <spykillyou> how is that the issue
#2286 [15:59] <Wug> because port forwarding properly works, and hamachi does not
#2287 [15:59] <Wug> QED
#2288 [15:59] <spykillyou> ive always used hamachi
#2289 [15:59] <spykillyou> never had this
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#2291 [16:01] <Wug> DopeGhoti: vox is spamming me horribly.
#2292 [16:01] <Wug> it sent a note waiting notice 4 times
#2293 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Speaking of bots..
#2294 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Wug, how do I access wugbot's memos?
#2295 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Wugbot keeps msging me that I have a memo
#2296 [16:01] <|Kiikun|> ;memo wug HI!
#2297 [16:01] <WugBot> Unrecognized subcommand.
#2298 [16:01] <Wug> GreyVulpine: they get sent to you automatically when you say something
#2299 [16:01] <|Kiikun|> aw..
#2300 [16:01] <Wug> ;memo send GreyVulpine frgselrgekhgesrg
#2301 [16:01] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to GreyVulpine when next he's active.
#2302 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> moo
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#2304 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> <WugBot> You have 1 new memos.
#2305 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> That's all I get
#2306 [16:02] <Wug> ;memo send wug dfgkglekjsrtglrt
#2307 [16:02] <|Kiikun|> ;memo list
#2308 [16:02] <WugBot> Unrecognized subcommand.
#2309 [16:02] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to wug when next he's active.
#2310 [16:02] <|Kiikun|> ;memo read
#2311 [16:02] <WugBot> Unrecognized subcommand.
#2312 [16:02] <|Kiikun|> :/
#2313 [16:02] <Wug> I get both
#2314 [16:02] <Wug> do ;memo send wug sometext
#2315 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> ;memo send wug YourBotHatesYou
#2316 [16:03] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to wug when next he's active.
#2317 [16:03] <|Kiikun|> lol
#2318 [16:03] <Wug> blort
#2319 [16:03] <Wug> <WugBot> <greyvulpine> YourBotHatesYou
#2320 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, my client isn't returning the actual memo, just saing I got one
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#2322 [16:03] <|Kiikun|> ;memo send |Kiikun| test
#2323 [16:03] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to |Kiikun| when next he's active.
#2324 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2325 [16:04] <|Kiikun|> im getting both...
#2326 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> ;memo send GreyBot Boo
#2327 [16:04] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to GreyBot when next he's active.
#2328 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#2329 [16:04] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Portage Lake, Pinckney, Michigan (4:04p Sep 27 11) temp(66.4 F / 19.1 C) cond(Scattered Clouds) wind(ESE at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(61%) dewpnt(52 F / 11 C) bp(29.77 in / 1008.0 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 8500 ft / 2590 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(3 out of 16)
#2330 [16:04] <GreyBot> Early This Evening: Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers. Temperatures falling to 62. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.
#2331 [16:04] <|Kiikun|> grey.. you got some sort of msgflood block?
#2332 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Huh, Greybot got it..
#2333 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> Really strange, I don't know. Lemme check
#2334 [16:05] <|Kiikun|> o.o; oooh... you have a weather trig? :D
#2335 [16:05] <Wug> GreyVulpine: send one to yourself/me has sudden suspicion
#2336 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#2337 [16:05] * |Kiikun| wants to check !weather Mojang
#2337 [16:05] <spykillyou> hey guys, about updating. When I do it always stays at "Downloading Packages" and the bar never moves
#2338 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> ;memo send GreyVulpine boo
#2339 [16:05] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to GreyVulpine when next he's active.
#2340 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> That one worked
#2341 [16:06] <Wug> how odd
#2342 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea
#2343 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> !grey on
#2344 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> !say ;memo send GreyVulpine boo
#2345 [16:07] <GreyBot> ;memo send GreyVulpine boo
#2346 [16:07] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to GreyVulpine when next he's active.
#2347 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> test
#2348 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> That worked as well
#2349 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea.
#2350 [16:07] <|Kiikun|> ;memo send GreyVulpine U r hav nise fur.
#2351 [16:07] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to GreyVulpine when next he's active.
#2352 [16:08] <Wug> lawl
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#2355 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Also got that one
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#2357 [16:08] <|Kiikun|> so... just wug->grey?
#2358 [16:08] * GreyVulpine prods wug
#2358 [16:08] <Wug> ;memo send GreyVulpine this is some text that you may or may not get
#2359 [16:08] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to GreyVulpine when next he's active.
#2360 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> test
#2361 [16:08] * GreyVulpine throws hands up.
#2361 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, I got that one
#2362 [16:09] <Wug> work?
#2363 [16:09] <mib_v4q2bh> Hey guys, I'm having trouble playing/updating Minecraft.
#2364 [16:09] <Wug> do you have a query with it open?
#2365 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2366 [16:09] <Wug> it sends them as notices
#2367 [16:09] <|Kiikun|> mib_v4q2bh: stalling in the download?
#2368 [16:09] <Wug> and notices behave differently on my client when query windows are open
#2369 [16:10] <|Kiikun|> Wug: i got those as messages o.o;
#2370 [16:10] <mib_v4q2bh> Exactly. Been doing it since yesterday.
#2371 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> !say ;memo send GreyVulpine boo
#2372 [16:10] <GreyBot> ;memo send GreyVulpine boo
#2373 [16:10] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to GreyVulpine when next he's active.
#2374 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> blarg
#2375 [16:10] <Wug> ummmm
#2376 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that worked as well. I don't know..
#2377 [16:10] <|Kiikun|> mib_v4q2bh: first turn off your antivirus and see if it helps
#2378 [16:11] <mib_v4q2bh> I deleted .minecraft from appdata, removed everything to do with the game and redownloaded the .exe ... I'll try the antivirus thing now.
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#2380 [16:12] <Wug> found it c: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/9531633-md.jpg
#2381 [16:13] <Wug> gravy was really mad one day
#2382 [16:13] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#2382 [16:13] * Wug trollrolls
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#2383 [16:13] <mib_v4q2bh> Nope, same problem.
#2384 [16:14] <|Kiikun|> mib_v4q2bh: ok. update or uninstall and reinstall java.
#2385 [16:14] <Wug> :ts/launcher > mib_v4q2bh
#2386 [16:14] <WugBot> mib_v4q2bh: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#2387 [16:14] <WugBot> mib_v4q2bh: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#2388 [16:14] <Wug> for some reason using that instead seems to work
#2389 [16:14] <Wug> we still havent figured out why the regular launcher has the error and that one does
#2390 [16:14] <Wug> n't
#2391 [16:15] <mib_v4q2bh> Using Avast by the way.
#2392 [16:15] <Wug> everyone I send it to is like 'wtf it worked that time', I havent so much as seen an error log from it
#2393 [16:15] <|Kiikun|> rofl...
#2394 [16:15] <|Kiikun|> ok ill remember that wug :P
#2395 [16:16] <mib_v4q2bh> Thanks, I'll try it now.
#2396 [16:17] <serenechaos> think I lost my house.. lol
#2397 [16:17] <serenechaos> next time I will not forget to make a pillar
#2398 [16:19] <mib_v4q2bh> I'll update Java and see if that helps, but that launcher isn't doing anything different and the log is empty.
#2399 [16:20] <Wug> well ffuuu.
#2400 [16:20] <|Kiikun|> serenechaos: lol.
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#2402 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> Wug: how so?
#2403 [16:25] <mib_v4q2bh> Uninstalled Java, installed latest version. Still no change.
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#2405 [16:26] <mib_v4q2bh> Oh s*** son. Run as administrator. It worked.
#2406 [16:26] <mib_v4q2bh> Of all the...
#2407 [16:27] <mib_v4q2bh> Thanks for the help guys.
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#2410 [16:36] <Ryladine> Back
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#2415 [16:43] <Sijmen> err hello
#2416 [16:44] <Sijmen> Got a question.. Would appreciate if someone confirms that they are listening.
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#2418 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Just ask
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#2421 [16:48] <DopeGhoti> or not.
#2422 [16:49] <Sijmen> Few days ago I purchased MC, now I know the confirmation email can arive late or with delay of some sort. However, ive waited for 2 days now and my account is still not made premium.
#2423 [16:49] <Sijmen> Ive checked and rechecked if the account was bound to my email and I can asure you it is
#2424 [16:49] <Sijmen> checked my spamfolder and even my deleted folder and there was nothing in it.
#2425 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> your account name is?
#2426 [16:50] <Sijmen> Sijmen
#2427 [16:50] <Vijfhoek> wat
#2428 [16:50] <Vijfhoek> kool
#2429 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> !paid Sijmen
#2430 [16:50] <Vijfhoek> i am called Sijmen too
#2431 [16:50] <Sijmen> sec vijf
#2432 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> Sijmen: have you verified the funds have been deducted from your bank account?
#2433 [16:50] <Sijmen> yea
#2434 [16:50] <DopeGhoti> ?? account
#2435 [16:50] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#2436 [16:50] <Vijfhoek> !paid sijmen
#2437 [16:50] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#2438 [16:50] <Sijmen> Ive send the number to support.
#2439 [16:51] <Sijmen> but havent recieved any email about that either
#2440 [16:51] <Sijmen> I can screencap it if you want.
#2441 [16:51] <Sijmen> will take a minute
#2442 [16:51] <DopeGhoti> Unfortunately, this is not something we can assist yo uwith.
#2443 [16:51] <Sijmen> Any idea where I can get some help.
#2444 [16:52] <Sijmen> Because I would like a refund or the game..
#2445 [16:53] <Sijmen> I need an email of some sort to get help. At support I couldnt find any email adress to send my problem to.
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#2450 [16:57] <Sijmen> just got a confirmation that my request is recieved, I'll wait for the response from them. Thanks for ur help
#2451 [16:57] <hmw> Minecraft segfaults on my Ubuntu 10.10, __kernel_vsyscall+0x2.... I tried to reinstall the game, Java and fglrx with no success (compiz not working without fglrx, didn't try installing Radeon manually). It ran some time ago (perhaps it was 11.04). Also having severe performance problems. I could need some help here.
#2452 [16:57] <mib_qvrlsa> is anyone else getting the "login failed" message when they try to log in?
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#2454 [16:58] <hmw> using OpenJDK and Sun's Java
#2455 [16:58] <hmw> !isup
#2456 [16:58] <hmw> !help
#2457 [16:59] <Anoncraft> What does !paid do?
#2458 [16:59] <hmw> !paid hmw
#2459 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> hmw: if you're actually getting segmentation faults, something has gone terribly wrong outside of the JRE infrastructure
#2460 [16:59] <hmw> wow... that's not even my Minecraft name...
#2461 [16:59] <Anoncraft> !paid Anoncraft
#2462 [16:59] <DopeGhoti> it's someone else's (:
#2463 [16:59] <Anoncraft> lol
#2464 [16:59] <Anoncraft> !paid solo707
#2465 [16:59] <Anoncraft> There's mine.
#2466 [16:59] <hmw> I was looking for the command, that checks minecraft.net (isitme or so)
#2467 [16:59] <hmw> !serverup
#2468 [17:00] <DopeGhoti> !isdown
#2469 [17:00] <GreyBot> DopeGhoti: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
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#2471 [17:00] <hmw> DopeGhoti: well... I am somewhat sick today and can't think so clearly. What should I check? Tried google for an hour now...
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#2473 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> hmw: the first thing I'd try is double-checking that you're using the right JRE
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#2475 [17:01] <hmw> checked, three times
#2476 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> Then, to be sure there's nothing on your account mucking anything up, I'd create a new user on the system, and try Minecraft from there
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#2478 [17:01] <hmw> currently my box has OpenJDK only
#2479 [17:01] <hmw> ah good idea
#2480 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> if it's still being twitchy, there might be an issue with your GPU drivers
#2481 [17:01] <mib_lqe804> I've got the black screen. I don't know how to fix it.
#2482 [17:01] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_lqe804 win/reinst
#2483 [17:01] <VoxelHead> mib_lqe804: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2484 [17:01] <VoxelHead> mib_lqe804: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2485 [17:02] <mib_lqe804> Oh, I don't have a windows, I'm running an OSK operating system.
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#2487 [17:02] <mib_lqe804> OSX*
#2488 [17:02] <DopeGhoti> mib_lqe804: which version of OS X, mib_lqe804?
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#2490 [17:04] <mib_lqe804> 10.5.8
#2491 [17:06] <DopeGhoti> mib_lqe804: known issue which will be fixed with 1.9
#2492 [17:07] <mib_lqe804> So I can't play until they come out with 1.9?
#2493 [17:07] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_lqe804 mac/1.5.8
#2494 [17:07] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_lqe804 mac/10.5.8
#2495 [17:07] <VoxelHead> mib_lqe804: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#2496 [17:07] <VoxelHead> mib_lqe804: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
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#2498 [17:08] <hmw> DopeGhoti: Crashes with new user, too. More suggestions?
#2499 [17:10] <Sijmen> How long does it usually take for a supporter to send back an answer in email?
#2500 [17:10] <Sijmen> I rly rly rly wanna play minecraft..
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#2503 [17:11] <dapoopta> hey guys
#2504 [17:11] <dapoopta> I am having issues trying to join a server
#2505 [17:11] <dapoopta> it says bad login...
#2506 [17:11] <dapoopta> can anyone help?
#2507 [17:12] <hmw> dapoopta: perhaps you have an old MC version, or their server runs an older version
#2508 [17:16] <DopeGhoti> hmw: the next place I'd look is at your GPU drivers
#2509 [17:17] <hmw> DopeGhoti: Xorg doesn't give any errors.
#2510 [17:19] <DopeGhoti> you're certain it's segmentation fault?
#2511 [17:20] <DopeGhoti> try running MC from the terminal to see if there is any error output.
#2512 [17:21] <hmw> the java log says so... SIGSEGV. http://pastebin.com/cs9M9FgD
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#2514 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> hmw - Don't suppose you're running an ATI card?
#2515 [17:22] <hmw> fglrx
#2516 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> That, might be why
#2517 [17:22] <kermie> bought game dont know to install help me
#2518 [17:22] <hmw> radeon is not offered in that "hardware drivers" window. Apparently, it isn't compatible with my GPU, i't say
#2519 [17:23] * mib_77nvn6 [mib_77nvn6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2520 [17:23] <kermie> any help?
#2521 [17:24] <hmw> It ran two days ago... I was about to debug the performance problems, but now it won't run at all (most of the time when I try to connect, it crashes)
#2522 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> kermie, you can download the client from minecraft.net/download
#2523 [17:24] * hmw never had luck with Linux on 10+ computers
#2523 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> hmw - fglrx has been a known problem on *nix even before minecraft came around
#2524 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> All I can suggest is try a different kernel?
#2525 [17:25] <hmw> i know, but that pc was a "gift" / scrap. For me, it's the fast one
#2526 [17:25] <hmw> I always get computers with fucking ATI cards
#2527 [17:25] * AuBot kicked hmw from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mw :Please keep it civil.)
#2528 [17:26] <hmw> was that a bot?
#2529 [17:26] <hmw> alright... thanks for your time. I think, I will not solve this today.
#2530 [17:26] <hmw> it was.
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#2532 [17:28] <kermie> need help says not premium how do i get premium
#2533 [17:28] <DopeGhoti> buy the game.
#2534 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> kermie - Need to buy an account, or wait for your payment to be processed
#2535 [17:28] <kermie> how do i tell if its processed
#2536 [17:29] <hmw> GreyVulpine: does it often take more than a few minutes to process payment? In three cases, it was through within a few minutes
#2537 [17:29] <hmw> !paid kermie
#2538 [17:29] <DopeGhoti> hmw: depending on the payment method, it can take from minutes to days.
#2539 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2540 [17:30] <hmw> of course... I was refering to paypal. I suppose, this will be quick always?
#2541 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Has been known to take a few hours
#2542 [17:30] <hmw> I see.
#2543 [17:30] <kermie> well i have account but still wont let me play
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#2545 [17:32] <kermie> any help on that
#2546 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> kermie - You may need to wait in order for the payment to be processed.
#2547 [17:33] <kermie> but it is
#2548 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Did you buy an account or a gift code? Did you get any confirmation emails?
#2549 [17:33] <kermie> accounnt and no no emails
#2550 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> If you haven't received any confirmation emails, your payment may still be being processed.
#2551 [17:38] * mib_t1cl4f [mib_t1cl4f@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2552 [17:39] <mib_t1cl4f> help?
#2553 [17:39] <mib_t1cl4f> Dx
#2554 [17:40] <kermie> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#2555 [17:41] <mib_t1cl4f> Im having trouble setting up a server to play online!
#2556 [17:41] <hmw> mib_t1cl4f: what's the issue?
#2557 [17:41] <mib_t1cl4f> Someone helppp meee!
#2558 [17:41] <mib_t1cl4f> okk
#2559 [17:41] <mib_t1cl4f> im having trouble setting up a server.
#2560 [17:42] <hmw> really.
#2561 [17:42] <mib_t1cl4f> yes.
#2562 [17:42] <mib_t1cl4f> Is it possible for you to maybe help me?
#2563 [17:42] <hmw> ask questions, perhaps get answes
#2564 [17:42] <hmw> what is the problem?
#2565 [17:44] <mib_t1cl4f> Ok, well I downloaded minecraft 1.8 and i checked java to make sure it was all up to date, it was, but every time i try to connect, its says "can't connect to minecraft.net".
#2566 [17:45] <hmw> mib_t1cl4f: that sounds like a client issue, not server!? Do you have any firewall software installed? Try with disabled firewall in that case.
#2567 [17:45] * Viking667 [Viking667@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2568 [17:46] <Viking667> 'llo. Where would I go for help with various online servers, such as Cubic Worlds and pwegoable?
#2569 [17:46] * findow [findow@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2570 [17:46] <findow> Hey
#2571 [17:46] <Viking667> ho
#2572 [17:46] <findow> lol.
#2573 [17:46] <findow> could i get some help?
#2574 [17:46] <hmw> Viking667: What kind of help do you need? Don't really understand
#2575 [17:47] <Viking667> don't ask to ask, just ask, already.
#2576 [17:47] <hmw> findow: Don't ask to ask a question, sak.
#2577 [17:47] <hmw> *ask
#2578 [17:47] <findow> ok.
#2579 [17:47] <Viking667> Well, I don't seem to be able to get on to the servers...
#2580 [17:47] <findow> same.
#2581 [17:47] <hmw> Viking667: can you connect to any other server?
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#2583 [17:47] <Viking667> and I was wondering if it was just me or if everyone I know of is offline?
#2584 [17:47] <Viking667> well, I don't have any other servers listed yet...
#2585 [17:47] <Viking667> ... i.e. I haven't joined any
#2586 [17:48] <findow> It dosent let me log in, i havent even got to play the game yet. D;
#2587 [17:48] <findow> D:*
#2588 [17:48] <Viking667> findow: hm. You're a paid-up minecraft user?
#2589 [17:48] <findow> YES.
#2590 [17:48] <Viking667> so. What error do you get when you put in your username and password? I don't do private chat
#2591 [17:49] <findow> It was "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2592 [17:49] <hmw> Viking667: did you mean me? I won't paste my IP into this channel
#2593 [17:49] <Viking667> ... but thank you for the help. I am just trying that server now
#2594 [17:50] <Viking667> Meh. <"Took too long to log in">
#2595 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> findow - What operating system are you on?
#2596 [17:50] <hmw> Viking667: what about your firewall, any installed? OS? 32bit/64bit?
#2597 [17:50] <Viking667> findow: that was what I got when I tried to log in.
#2598 [17:51] <findow> I set up the server right and everything. im on windows.
#2599 [17:51] <Viking667> hmw: multiuser was working fine three days ago. Nothing changed since then.
#2600 [17:51] <hmw> Viking667: well... something obviously HAS changed :-)
#2601 [17:51] <Viking667> Ubuntu 32-bit, 2Gb memory, ATI video with 256Mb memory,
#2602 [17:52] <Viking667> logging in the user isn't actually a problem here, just getting onto any multiplayer server that I've tried.
#2603 [17:52] <hmw> probably not the firewall, then
#2604 [17:52] <Viking667> I don't need holes poked in my router's firewall for this one unless I set up my own server.
#2605 [17:53] <findow> mine might be a firewall, but i am unsure on how to allow minecraft to bypass it.
#2606 [17:53] <Viking667> findow: unlikely.
#2607 [17:53] <hmw> findow: disable the firewall temporarily to find out
#2608 [17:53] <findow> ok, i'll be right back.
#2609 [17:53] <Viking667> !isdown
#2610 [17:53] <GreyBot> Viking667: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2611 [17:54] <Viking667> hmw: yeah. The unfortunate problem for me is, I haven't gottend joined on to too many servers yet. just one so far...
#2612 [17:55] <hmw> Viking667: you could try connecting to a server on your local host
#2613 [17:55] <Viking667> heh. True.
#2614 [17:55] * SlippyGreen [SlippyGreen@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2615 [17:55] <SlippyGreen> Hello?
#2616 [17:55] <hmw> SlippyGreen: I SEE YOU.
#2617 [17:55] <Viking667> ... except for one thing. I don't (yet) have a 1.7.3 server here, just 1.8/1.9
#2618 [17:55] * Viking667 arms the creeper cannon
#2618 [17:55] <SlippyGreen> Ok...
#2619 [17:56] * Viking667 hands the button over to hmw
#2619 [17:56] <hmw> Viking667: you can't connect with a 1.7 client to my server (1.8) ... !!
#2620 [17:56] <hmw> versions MUST match
#2621 [17:56] <Viking667> hmw... heh. I'll switch then. 18 or 181?
#2622 [17:56] <SlippyGreen> I have been having trouble with my minecraft because it keeps crashing.
#2623 [17:56] <hmw> Viking667: make a backup of your .minecraft folder first.
#2624 [17:56] <Viking667> ... oooo?
#2625 [17:56] * Tsuimonster [Tsuimonster@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2626 [17:56] <hmw> in case you want to go back to 1.7
#2627 [17:57] <findow> Yeah, i dont think its the firewall.
#2628 [17:57] <Viking667> I've been running 1.8.1 and 1.9pre for a while
#2629 [17:57] <SlippyGreen> Can someone help me?
#2630 [17:57] <Viking667> ... I don't think I'll be using 1.7.3 for anything except connecting to cubic worlds
#2631 [17:57] <Viking667> (and anyone else still on 1.7.3)-
#2632 [17:58] * mib_yihajn [mib_yihajn@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2633 [17:58] <hmw> SlippyGreen: OS? 32/64bit? Java version? Error messages?
#2634 [17:58] <SlippyGreen> My game keeps crashing
#2635 [17:58] <Viking667> hmw: instructions for the cannon are simple... stand in front of the creeper, until it lights... then fire the cannon at your victim.
#2636 [17:58] <SlippyGreen> And i cant play on it anymore
#2637 [17:58] <Viking667> SlippyGreen: you're not saying what the error is.
#2638 [17:58] <SlippyGreen> My mincraft keeps crashing
#2639 [17:59] <SlippyGreen> Everytime i play
#2640 [17:59] <Viking667> That doesn't tell us anything.
#2641 [17:59] * xXMikioXx [xXMikioXx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2642 [17:59] <hmw> SlippyGreen: OS? 32/64bit? Java version? Error messages?
#2643 [17:59] <SlippyGreen> What?? I just said my game keeps crashing...
#2644 [17:59] <hmw> <><
#2645 [17:59] <Viking667> let's start with the basics. What are you running? Windows? Linux? MacL
#2646 [17:59] <SlippyGreen> Windows
#2647 [17:59] <findow> Damn, now it gives me the option to play offline, but nothing comes up. Dx
#2648 [18:00] <Viking667> Which one? XP, Vista, 7? is it 64-bit or just 32-bit?
#2649 [18:00] <SlippyGreen> XP 32 bit
#2650 [18:00] <Viking667> What version of java is installed on your system?
#2651 [18:00] <Viking667> (should probably be 1.6_27)
#2652 [18:00] <findow> latest.
#2653 [18:00] <SlippyGreen> Lemme check real quick
#2654 [18:00] <Viking667> findow: actually, that's 1.7
#2655 [18:01] <findow> 1.7 ok.
#2656 [18:01] <Viking667> findow: unless you mean your client version
#2657 [18:01] <Viking667> I was actually informing slippygreen about best java version
#2658 [18:01] <SlippyGreen> Okay i have the latest version
#2659 [18:01] <hmw> SlippyGreen: uninstall and then re-download and reinstall Java, if that doesnt help, delete your .minecraft folder (Start Menu/Run, type %appdata% to find that folder) in order to force a re-download of the game
#2660 [18:01] <Viking667> SlippyGreen: I will be right back... real world intrudes
#2661 [18:02] <hmw> SlippyGreen: perhaps first try forcing the game to download again first
#2662 [18:02] <Viking667> hmw: tell him to install 1.6 not 1.7
#2663 [18:02] <xXMikioXx> I cant get minecraft to rin on my computer.
#2664 [18:02] <Ryladine> Mikio: Specs?
#2665 [18:02] <hmw> Viking667: uhm... problems with a current Java setup?
#2666 [18:02] <xXMikioXx> Linux mint 11 32 bit.
#2667 [18:02] <Ryladine> xXMikioXx: RAM ?
#2668 [18:03] <xXMikioXx> 2gb
#2669 [18:03] <SlippyGreen> Thanks friends!
#2670 [18:03] <Ryladine> xXMikioXx: I'm afraid you will have to wait for another helper, I don't know anything about linux machines.
#2671 [18:03] <almostroot> xXMikioXx: Did you install JAva from Orcale?
#2672 [18:03] <almostroot> Java* Oracle*
#2673 [18:03] <xXMikioXx> yes.
#2674 [18:04] <almostroot> xXMikioXx: Open a terminal, enter java -version
#2675 [18:04] <almostroot> xXMikioXx: What exactly happens when you try to run it?
#2676 [18:04] * loganroger [loganroger@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2677 [18:04] * Ryladine Goes to get Oracle's virtual machine and a copy of linux to go play with
#2677 [18:04] * Liesye [Liesye@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2678 [18:04] <Liesye> hi
#2679 [18:05] <Ryladine> Hello
#2680 [18:05] <xXMikioXx> java version "1.6.0_22" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.10.2) (6b22-1.10.2-0ubuntu1~11.04.1) OpenJDK Client VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode, sharing)
#2681 [18:05] <Liesye> how it going
#2682 [18:05] <loganroger> can someone help me please
#2683 [18:05] <Ryladine> ?? ask
#2684 [18:05] <Liesye> with what
#2685 [18:05] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2686 [18:05] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2687 [18:05] <Viking667> hm. I'm not sure how well OpenJDK works on Ubuntu or Mint.
#2688 [18:06] <hmw> Sun's Java is recommended by minecraft.net
#2689 [18:06] <xXMikioXx> The launcher starts.
#2690 [18:06] <Liesye> how do i register my name for the #minecraft channel
#2691 [18:06] <loganroger> i try to play the game and it says that it is loading then it goes to a white screen
#2692 [18:06] <xXMikioXx> I just get an error after I log in
#2693 [18:06] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: yup. I'd say the same. I've had no issues with Oracle's version here on Ubuntu 32-bit
#2694 [18:06] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: what error?
#2695 [18:06] <Ryladine> Liesye: /msg nickserve password email
#2696 [18:06] <Viking667> err, what is the error, rather?
#2697 [18:06] <Ryladine> I may have left something out there..
#2698 [18:07] <Ryladine> but if I did it should prompt you
#2699 [18:07] <hmw> Liesye: /msg nickserv password email !!
#2700 [18:07] <xXMikioXx> [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)]
#2701 [18:07] <Viking667> Ryladine: yeah. /msg nickserv password email
#2702 [18:07] <Viking667> hmw: gah. You type too fast...
#2703 [18:07] <Liesye> ty Rylad and hmw
#2704 [18:07] <loganroger> can someone tell me what to do
#2705 [18:07] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: hmm. I have a friend that gets that too.
#2706 [18:07] <hmw> :-) touch typer
#2707 [18:07] <Viking667> hmw: so am I, just not a fast one.
#2708 [18:07] <Ryladine> loganroger: Sure, Go buy a soda.
#2709 [18:07] <xXMikioXx> Do you know how to fix it?
#2710 [18:08] <Ryladine> loganroger: Are you getting any error messages?
#2711 [18:08] <loganroger> ya on my desktop
#2712 [18:08] <Ryladine> loganroger: paste the contents on pastebin and tell me the linnk
#2713 [18:09] <Ryladine> ??> loganroger pastebin
#2714 [18:09] <VoxelHead> loganroger: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2715 [18:10] <xXMikioXx> Another error I get is org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: X Error - disp: 0x8d3ef10 serial: 31 error: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) request_code: 136 minor_code: 14
#2716 [18:10] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: I suspect that's because of something on Mint.
#2717 [18:10] * mib_pxu135 [mib_pxu135@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2718 [18:10] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: right. What video card do you have?
#2719 [18:11] <xXMikioXx> ATI radeon xpress 200m
#2720 [18:11] <Viking667> Is that a Mobile chipset or a normal PCI-Express card?
#2721 [18:11] <loganroger> where do i find the URL
#2722 [18:11] <xXMikioXx> I believe its a mobile chipset
#2723 [18:11] <Ryladine> In the url bar at the top of the page...
#2724 [18:12] <Ryladine> Where you type things like www.google.com
#2725 [18:12] <loganroger> http://pastebin.com/5shz0qwu
#2726 [18:12] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: you might have a little more trouble getting that going with minecraft, but we'll see. What drivers are you using? AMD or the ones that came with Mint?
#2727 [18:13] <xXMikioXx> I'm using amd drivers. I have tried the ones that came with mint
#2728 [18:13] <Viking667> (sorry, what video drivers)
#2729 [18:13] <Viking667> ah huh.
#2730 [18:13] * The_First_Gamer [The_First_Gamer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2731 [18:13] <Viking667> have you ever been able to run minecraft?
#2732 [18:13] <xXMikioXx> When I used to have windows xp.
#2733 [18:14] <Ryladine> loganroger: Do you have any mods isntalled?
#2734 [18:14] <loganroger> no
#2735 [18:14] <hmw> Ryladine: that looks like a non-java related error. probably the ATI drivers
#2736 [18:14] <loganroger> i have never been able to play on my computer
#2737 [18:14] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: ah huh... but never with Linux, hm?
#2738 [18:15] <xXMikioXx> No.
#2739 [18:15] <Viking667> What version of java are you using? IcedTea or Oracle Java?
#2740 [18:15] <Ryladine> hmw: Really? I didn't see anything that pointed to drivers in it at all
#2741 [18:15] <Ryladine> nvm
#2742 [18:16] <Ryladine> I see it now
#2743 [18:16] <xXMikioXx> I think its icedtea
#2744 [18:16] <Ryladine> lol
#2745 [18:16] * Ryladine is somewhat blind
#2745 [18:16] <Ryladine> loganroger: Yes, have you updated your drivers to the most recent versions
#2746 [18:16] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: see if you can install Oracle's java, and tell me if the problem still happens. It may take a little time to download.
#2747 [18:16] <loganroger> im not sure
#2748 [18:16] <xXMikioXx> k
#2749 [18:16] <hmw> Ryladine: wait a sec... is this under windows? I was refering to that opengl stuff
#2750 [18:17] <Ryladine> Oh no
#2751 [18:17] <Ryladine> He's getting crash reports from java and I was going through that
#2752 [18:17] <Ryladine> It's reporting as out of the virtual machine though, so thats probably the case.
#2753 [18:17] <loganroger> so do you know what is wrong?
#2754 [18:18] <Ryladine> loganroger: Try updating your graphics drivers.
#2755 [18:18] <loganroger> how do i do that
#2756 [18:18] <Ryladine> loganroger: Do you know what kind of video card you have?
#2757 [18:18] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: you may have to tell Mint that your default java will be Oracle's version...
#2758 [18:18] <loganroger> no
#2759 [18:18] <hmw> otoh, I was able to run MC with OpenJDK, too.
#2760 [18:19] <Ryladine> loganroger: Follow the dirrections voxelhead gives you
#2761 [18:19] <Viking667> hmw: I haven't tried it, I just tend to stick with Oracle's version.
#2762 [18:19] <hmw> it's the recommended version anyways
#2763 [18:19] <Ryladine> ??> loganroger win/dxdiag
#2764 [18:19] <VoxelHead> loganroger: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2765 [18:19] <VoxelHead> loganroger: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2766 [18:19] <xXMikioXx> K. I've started the download. It will take about 15 minutes to finish.
#2767 [18:19] <xXMikioXx> I have a slow internet connection.
#2768 [18:20] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: yup. That's okay. You don't have a data cap too, do you?
#2769 [18:20] <xXMikioXx> I dont think so. how do i check?
#2770 [18:21] <Viking667> hm. You'd probably know if you did.
#2771 [18:21] <xXMikioXx> k
#2772 [18:21] <Viking667> one of the old 256k broadband setups?
#2773 [18:21] <Viking667> ... or is it just slow to your home?
#2774 [18:21] <xXMikioXx> No, just a slow wifi connection.
#2775 [18:21] <Viking667> eeeeuuuugh...
#2776 [18:21] * Viking667 shudders. 11Mbit.
#2776 [18:22] <Viking667> Incidentally, that's all my laptop does. Sigh.
#2777 [18:22] <Viking667> (still, it does do 100mbit ethernet, which is a blessing)
#2778 [18:23] <Viking667> where'd slippygreen go?
#2779 [18:23] <Ryladine> loganroger: Have you completed those steops?
#2780 [18:23] <loganroger> where is the IRC channel
#2781 [18:23] <Ryladine> steps*
#2782 [18:23] <Viking667> loganroger: here.
#2783 [18:23] <Ryladine> This is the IRC channel
#2784 [18:23] <loganroger> http://pastebin.com/2k6r4kjd
#2785 [18:23] <Ryladine> umm
#2786 [18:24] <Ryladine> uhh
#2787 [18:24] <Ryladine> Can someone check that and make sure I'm not misreading it?
#2788 [18:24] <Ryladine> Does that really say his pc is running on 640 mb RAM?,,,,,,,
#2789 [18:25] <Viking667> with 128Mb video memory, and an SIS670 video setup
#2790 [18:25] <Viking667> err, 760
#2791 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> Yep, that there is a machine with <1GiB of RAM
#2792 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> Minecraft will _not_ run well on this machine.
#2793 [18:25] <Viking667> He's gonna hurt........
#2794 [18:26] <Ryladine> loganroger: Solution? Upgrade...
#2795 [18:26] <loganroger> how
#2796 [18:26] <Ryladine> loganroger: I'm not sure that machine has enough RAM to even start MC with other tasks (including the OS) running...
#2797 [18:27] <hmw> Who needs an OS... let's put MC into the MBR *smirks*
#2798 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> indeed not. It allocated 1GiB at startup, for example
#2799 [18:27] <loganroger> so what should i do
#2800 [18:27] <Ryladine> loganroger: bascially get a new computer...
#2801 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> Get a new computer
#2802 [18:27] <hmw> loganroger: get a new computer
#2803 [18:27] <Ryladine> loganroger: Theres little to no way that machine can run minecraft
#2804 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> that's pretty much the only realistic option
#2805 [18:27] <Viking667> Or add a LOT more memory.
#2806 [18:28] <loganroger> well i cant get a new computer
#2807 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> and for $_300_, you can get a computer which whill blow the doors off of the one you have now.
#2808 [18:28] <hmw> I was able to play MC on WinXP on a P4 with 1GB. That's pretty much the lower end of what is bearable.
#2809 [18:28] <Viking667> the absolute minimum you should do is add a lot more memory.
#2810 [18:28] <Ryladine> I will admin I have a machine with less RAM than that in the next room... but I don't run minecraft on it..
#2811 [18:28] <Ryladine> admit*
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#2813 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> "640KiB ought to be enough for anybody." - b. Gates
#2814 [18:29] <Viking667> VoxelHead: by the way, what was my error of earlier? I'm still looking and I can't see it even after I've looked three times.
#2815 [18:29] * |KiiAtSchool| [|KiiAtSchool|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2816 [18:29] <Ryladine> I'm just wiping it, adding 256mb more RAM and installing Win Server 2008 on it. XD
#2817 [18:29] <VoxelHead> ?SYNTAX ERROR
#2818 [18:29] <Ryladine> Viking, Voxel is a bot
#2819 [18:29] <Viking667> *blink*
#2820 [18:29] <Ryladine> Isn't that right voxelhead? Your a bot.
#2821 [18:30] <loganroger> so how do i add more memory
#2822 [18:30] <almostroot> “Microsoft looks at new ideas, they don’t evaluate whether the idea will move the industry forward, they ask, ‘how will it help us sell more copies of Windows?’” -Bill Gates
#2823 [18:30] <Ryladine> Logan buy it, but that machine is so outdated I don't think you will find anything that will make it run
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#2825 [18:30] <almostroot> ?? bot
#2826 [18:30] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, sometimes a sock-puppet, but never an independant helper.
#2827 [18:30] <loganroger> fuck
#2828 [18:30] * AuBot kicked loganroger from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oganroger :Please keep it civil.)
#2829 [18:30] <Ryladine> Ah! Thats what that one was XD
#2830 [18:30] <Viking667> I just got a warning message from it about five minutes ago, warning me about "Seriously; don't repat characters like that, It's rude. (If you pasted something, don't do that either. Use pastebin"
#2831 [18:31] <Ryladine> you did something like ..................
#2832 [18:31] <Ryladine> See? He whined at me too.
#2833 [18:31] <almostroot> Viking667: The multiple periods at the end of one of your statements.
#2834 [18:31] <Viking667> huh??
#2835 [18:31] * Viking667 blinks, twice
#2835 [18:31] <SwingBlade> Hello! I keep running into Out of Memory errors with Minecraft, on a brand-new world.
#2836 [18:31] * VoxelHead winks
#2836 [18:32] <Viking667> SwingBlade: how are you starting java up?
#2837 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> SwingBlade: how much RAM has your PC got?
#2838 [18:32] <Ryladine> :o It got turned on!
#2839 [18:32] <Ryladine> Voxelhead, give me a cookie!
#2840 [18:32] <SwingBlade> 4GB with 1GB free when it crashes, DopeGhoti
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#2842 [18:32] <VoxelHead> Oatmeal rasin okay?
#2843 [18:32] <SwingBlade> Viking667: I'm running the minecraft.jar
#2844 [18:32] <Viking667> SwingBlade: so. How are you starting up Java?
#2845 [18:32] <Ryladine> Yes
#2846 [18:32] <VoxelHead> Sorry; fresh out.
#2847 [18:33] * Ryladine hits voxelhead
#2847 [18:33] * VoxelHead leaks
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#2848 [18:33] <SwingBlade> I tried it with the "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" line, but it isn't rendering my blocks.
#2849 [18:33] <Viking667> SwingBlade: because on the minecraft site, it says to try something if you keep running out of memory. Something like: java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M ....
#2850 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> SwingBlade: Are you using any mods?
#2851 [18:34] <SwingBlade> DopeGhoti: I am not. I did a fresh install moments ago, though I did not delete the options, last login, nor saves folder.
#2852 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> SwingBlade: what OS?
#2853 [18:34] <SwingBlade> Win7 x64
#2854 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> SwingBlade win/profile
#2855 [18:34] <VoxelHead> SwingBlade: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2856 [18:34] <VoxelHead> SwingBlade: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2857 [18:34] * DopeGhoti gives vox some coffee
#2857 [18:34] <Viking667> SwingBlade: by the way, just as an aside - are you able to create folders that look like ".something"?
#2858 [18:35] <xXMikioXx> k it finished downloading
#2859 [18:35] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: mmm hmm?
#2860 [18:35] * Ryladine is sad that he cannot do that.
#2860 [18:35] <SwingBlade> Hmm, I might try reinstalling Java, I haven't had this issue previously.
#2861 [18:35] <xXMikioXx> I still need to install it
#2862 [18:35] * VoxelHead finishes the coffee
#2862 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> Ryladine: cannot do what?
#2863 [18:35] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: I'll wait. I've got time.
#2864 [18:35] <Ryladine> lol make folders name .something XD
#2865 [18:36] <Ryladine> named*
#2866 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> ...you can.
#2867 [18:36] <Ryladine> nope, windows won't let me
#2868 [18:36] <Ryladine> I have file extensions set visible
#2869 [18:36] <Viking667> On Vista, I can't create it either, which makes me wonder how minecraft does it.
#2870 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> ..you can.
#2871 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> you just have to be smarter than Windows.
#2872 [18:36] * Ryladine is dumber than windows
#2872 [18:37] <Viking667> Neither Explorer nor CMD.EXE let me
#2873 [18:37] <Viking667> Do I need to try Powershell?
#2874 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> mkdir ".directorywithdotatthestart."
#2875 [18:37] <Viking667> ohh, you're KIDDING, right??
#2876 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> no.
#2877 [18:37] <Viking667> sigh. Never thought of quoting the silly thing.
#2878 [18:37] * Viking667 shelves that away for future use.
#2878 [18:38] <SwingBlade> What do I do with this newfound power, Dope?
#2879 [18:38] <Viking667> There's mostly none of that stupidity with Linux.
#2880 [18:39] <Viking667> SwingBlade: uhh, that sentence is just ... so wrong.
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#2882 [18:40] <Viking667> not that the nick helped either.
#2883 [18:40] <VoxelHead> I like them :o)
#2884 [18:40] <SwingBlade> DopeGhoti: Why did you ask if I could do that?
#2885 [18:41] <SwingBlade> Using the command you presented, I can.
#2886 [18:41] <Viking667> SwingBlade: ACtually, I think it was me that asked.
#2887 [18:41] <Viking667> I asked because you'd come on board with 7, I've only got Vista. I wanted to know if the behaviour had changed since I last tried.
#2888 [18:41] <SwingBlade> Ah, apologies.
#2889 [18:41] <hmw> Viking667: rename using quotation marks "move oldfile ".newfile" or similar
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#2891 [18:42] <Viking667> hmw: heh.
#2892 [18:42] <mib_vzxpbo> hello?
#2893 [18:42] <Viking667> nobody's here. We're all off at MineCon.
#2894 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> Please leave your inquiry at the beep.
#2895 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> Beep.
#2896 [18:43] <Viking667> oh gee no. He believed me??? Whoops... my bad.
#2897 [18:43] <hmw> now you scared them out of the channel. Mean of you, playing a ghost
#2898 [18:43] <VoxelHead> Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
#2899 [18:43] <VoxelHead> tacos
#2900 [18:44] <Viking667> considering that MineCon isn't actually running (yet).
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#2902 [18:44] <Viking667> wow. I didn't even get a chance to tell him I'm sorry.
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#2904 [18:45] <gamakichi> hello
#2905 [18:45] <Viking667> 'llo
#2906 [18:45] <Viking667> lo
#2907 [18:45] <Viking667> o
#2908 [18:46] <Viking667> um.... sowwwy..
#2909 [18:46] <Viking667> clearly not one of my better days today.
#2910 [18:47] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: anyhow, how far through have you got with installing java?
#2911 [18:47] <gamakichi> my game starts fine but about 1-2 min in it closes and an ERR_PD_number here shows up can you help me Please!!!!!
#2912 [18:48] <Viking667> gamakichi: hm. I've never heard of that one.
#2913 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> gamakichi: one bang is suffucuent.
#2914 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> can you please pastebin the contents of the file?
#2915 [18:48] * Ryladine [Ryladine@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2916 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> ??> gamakichi pastebin
#2917 [18:48] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2918 [18:48] <xXMikioXx> im still trying to figure out how to do it...
#2919 [18:48] <Ryladine> lol, just installed oracle's virtual box and corrupted my wireless adapters drivers XD
#2920 [18:48] <Viking667> DopeGhoti: you'd better tell him what file you need submitted, yet.
#2921 [18:48] <VoxelHead> adapterless wires
#2922 [18:49] <Viking667> Ryladine: you're kidding, right?
#2923 [18:49] <Ryladine> no
#2924 [18:49] * GreyVulpine stabs VoxelHead
#2924 [18:49] <VoxelHead> Well, i do love a good GreyVulpineing.
#2925 [18:49] <Viking667> ouch. Sorry.
#2926 [18:49] <Ryladine> thats why I got disconnected lol
#2927 [18:49] * VoxelHead bleeds.
#2927 [18:49] <Ryladine> It's nothing to be sorry about, it's funny. XD
#2928 [18:49] <Viking667> not necessarily. But hey.
#2929 [18:49] <Ryladine> I had the disk in a box behind me, it was a quick fix XD
#2930 [18:49] * GreyVulpine heads out for a few hours.
#2930 [18:49] <Viking667> sigh. True.
#2931 [18:50] * Ryladine is just a little bit demented... Ontop of enjoying fixing problems he also likes to play arround with scareware
#2931 [18:51] <Viking667> Ryladine: yuck. I had to clean one of those up recently. Called itself some Vista Antivirus 2012 or something mad like that.
#2932 [18:51] <Ryladine> LOL
#2933 [18:51] <Viking667> was a nasty SOB to remove too.
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#2935 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> Far too many computers still have the Windows trojan on them. It sucks up system resources, opens security holes, and gradually consumes the enture hard drive with "temporary" files.
#2936 [18:52] <Viking667> luckily the guy had had enough of a clue not to have bought it (and unlocked the real code), he just brought his laptop over for me to clean up
#2937 [18:52] <Ryladine> I've had windows xp antivirus 2008,2009 and windows 7 antivirus 20010, 2011. multiple times on some of them, it was fun.
#2938 [18:52] <SwingBlade> No dice on a new Java, bleh
#2939 [18:52] <Viking667> I smelled a rat as soon as I saw the title bar.
#2940 [18:52] <Ryladine> I've also had "clean this" which sets the machine to boot into it's own shell. XD
#2941 [18:53] <Ryladine> That one was fun too
#2942 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> "its"; not "it's"
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#2944 [18:53] * Ryladine sticks his tounge out at dopeghoti
#2944 [18:53] <Viking667> It's is short for It Is...
#2945 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> the best antivirus tools are /sbin/fdisk and /sbin/dd
#2946 [18:53] <Ryladine> lol
#2947 [18:54] <DopeGhoti> distantly followed by /usr/local/bin/clamav
#2948 [18:54] <Ryladine> I use a combination of cmd, manual removal, malwarebytes, unlocker, task manager, and my own brain. XD
#2949 [18:54] <Ryladine> oh and regedit, don't forget regedit
#2950 [18:54] <bzzman> i paid for minecraft, but it says that i cant use my credit/debit card for 24 hours. help?
#2951 [18:54] <Ryladine> bzzman: contact your bank for help with that
#2952 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> I use "When surfing the web, on a Windows machine, do it in a VM, then restore the VM to its snapshot when done"
#2953 [18:55] <bzzman> i have a visa gift card
#2954 [18:55] <Viking667> To remove Windows from your hard drive: (1) remove drive from box. (2) open drive. (3) if the drive has platters, find a very strong magnet and completely cover the platters with scratches from the magnet. The platter should look completely unshiny.
#2955 [18:55] <DopeGhoti> ??> bzzman prepaid
#2956 [18:55] <VoxelHead> bzzman: (prepaid) Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#2957 [18:55] <bzzman> aw...
#2958 [18:55] <Viking667> (4) then put the platters (separately) into a cement mixer
#2959 [18:55] <Ryladine> lol
#2960 [18:56] <Ryladine> Or format it, then format it, then format it, then format it, then run ccleaner or another better program to do a gutman 35 pass freespace wipe.
#2961 [18:56] <Ryladine> Then put a neodynium magnet on the HD
#2962 [18:56] <gamakichi> hey is there a pro gram i could run to give me all of my info for paste bin?
#2963 [18:56] <Viking667> (3a) If the drive is a solid state drive, then place it in microwave without the plastic surround. Microwave for at least two minutes on High.
#2964 [18:56] <Viking667> wipe out afterwards.
#2965 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> ??> gamakichi win/dxdiag
#2966 [18:56] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
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#2968 [18:56] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2969 [18:56] <gamakichi> thanks
#2970 [18:58] <Viking667> one other idea is to mount the magnet to a drillbit set to about 600 RPm, and buff the surface of the platters using it.
#2971 [18:58] * Ryladine is downloading ubuntu now so he can try a linux OS for the first time
#2971 [18:58] <xXMikioXx> Im still having trouble installing java
#2972 [18:58] <Viking667> Should work okay inside VirtualBox if you give the VM about 1Gb of memory and about 10Gb of drivespace
#2973 [18:59] <Viking667> xXMikioXx: hm? How come?
#2974 [18:59] <xXMikioXx> The commands are not working.
#2975 [18:59] <Ryladine> Don't forget to use a neodynium magnet viking! A magnet the smaller than 1/2 a 9volt battery that can pick up a full sized shovel!
#2976 [18:59] <xXMikioXx> Idk why they're not though.
#2977 [19:00] <SwingBlade> I had a magnet that was on the speaker of an old 8mm projector
#2978 [19:00] <SwingBlade> It was strong enough to pull a high school desk with someone in it
#2979 [19:00] * Ryladine sighs 40+ minutes to finish downloading ubuntu.. I think i will go play with windows server 2008 before I get it installed on this other machine...
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#2980 [19:03] <almostroot> Ryladine: Which version you looking for of Ubuntu?
#2981 [19:03] <Ryladine> The latest
#2982 [19:03] <almostroot> Ryladine: Ew.
#2983 [19:03] <Ryladine> I already have it, just downloading it from the site
#2984 [19:03] <xXMikioXx> I have to go. Ill try to install java later
#2985 [19:04] <Ryladine> Never ran a linux machine installed Oracle VM Virtual box, and figured I would try it
#2986 [19:04] <Ryladine> I don't really have anything better to do right now, I'll probably play with freebsd as well
#2987 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> While you're at it, grab a copy of Haiku
#2988 [19:05] <Ryladine> Never heard of it, what kind of OS is it?
#2989 [19:05] <hmw> Ryladine: you could help me out as my mining slave... been digging for hours and no diamonds so far...
#2990 [19:05] <almostroot> Ryladine: I suggest trying an enterprise OS, such as CentOS.
#2991 [19:05] <Ryladine> lol
#2992 [19:05] <Ryladine> Lol
#2993 [19:05] <almostroot> DopeGhoti: Don;t wish that on people. >.<
#2994 [19:05] <Ryladine> I run windows 7 enterprise
#2995 [19:05] <Ryladine> XD
#2996 [19:05] <Ryladine> as my main desktop OS
#2997 [19:06] <almostroot> Ryladine: I said enterprise OS, not enterprise clusterfuck.
#2998 [19:06] * AuBot kicked almostroot from #minecrafthelp (Reason: lmostroot :Please keep it civil.)
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#3000 [19:06] <Ryladine> LOL
#3001 [19:06] * almostroot kicked AuBot from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uBot :AuBot)
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#3003 [19:06] <almostroot> -_-
#3004 [19:07] <Ryladine> SCrew this... 200 kbs? I'm going to go find a torrent for it... Why do dirrect downloads have to be so slow?
#3005 [19:07] <hmw> Ryladine: Ubuntu? because they want you to use torrents...
#3006 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> ^
#3007 [19:07] <Ryladine> lol
#3008 [19:07] <almostroot> Ryladine: Want a direct download of CentOS 6 64-bit, or Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS?
#3009 [19:07] <xales> Kealper: AuBot needs exemptions for operators. Badly.
#3010 [19:08] <Ryladine> I'll try your centOS if you have it XD
#3011 [19:08] <hmw> no really, they even ask you for easing their bandwidth on the web page, iirc
#3012 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
#3013 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> Torrents are right there, boss
#3014 [19:08] <Ryladine> Yay!
#3015 [19:08] <Ryladine> Lol
#3016 [19:08] <Ryladine> I was too lazy to go past the big download button. XD
#3017 [19:08] <xales> See, I can't even say the name of a perfectly legitimate fictional hosting company, Clusterfuck Hosting
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#3020 [19:08] <hmw> otoh, i updated my buntu today and i got the stuff with 1 MBit/s
#3021 [19:08] <Ryladine> lol
#3022 [19:09] <almostroot> Ryladine: Live DVD or installation DVD?
#3023 [19:09] <almostroot> Ryladine: Or Live CD.
#3024 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> For *buntu, live images _are_ installation images.
#3025 [19:09] <Ryladine> Mmm ISO because I'm installing it to a virtual machine lol
#3026 [19:10] <almostroot> DopeGhoti: Was referring to CentOS.
#3027 [19:10] <Ryladine> XD
#3028 [19:10] <almostroot> DopeGhoti: But there's an exception, since when I install Ubuntu, I do from the Alternate disc, which means no live OS.
#3029 [19:10] <Ryladine> Yay! Real speeds! 1mbs
#3030 [19:10] <Ryladine> lol
#3031 [19:10] * DopeGhoti always installes from the Server edition images
#3031 [19:10] <hmw> not so bad for a free download server
#3032 [19:11] <almostroot> DopeGhoti: There is no Ubuntu Server edition anymore.
#3033 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> what.
#3034 [19:11] <hmw> wut?
#3035 [19:11] <almostroot> Erm, nevermind.
#3036 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent
#3037 [19:11] <almostroot> It was netbook that they got rid of.
#3038 [19:11] <hmw> they probably replaced it with their Unity edition, since no one with their brains still alive will use Ubuntu as a server...
#3039 [19:11] <almostroot> Confused for a minute.
#3040 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS.
#3041 [19:12] <Viking667> I can't stand Unity, frankly.
#3042 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> um, hmw.. Ubuntu makes a perfectly good server distro
#3043 [19:12] <Viking667> Tried it for a month, and was grateful to go back to my previous setup.
#3044 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> Unity, much like GNOME 3, is crap
#3045 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> good think I prefer the CLI
#3046 [19:12] <hmw> unity is the reason, I am looking for another distro now. Perhaps they will undo this awful decision? A lot of people are complaining.
#3047 [19:12] <Viking667> I tend to use both at the same time.
#3048 [19:12] <DopeGhoti> log in, fire up Terminator, maximize; fire up Chrome, put on other monitor, maximize; done and done
#3049 [19:13] <Viking667> i.e. I use CLI stuff, but I use it inside X, so I can actually fire up GUI programs too.
#3050 [19:13] <almostroot> I tried Fedora 15 as a workstation distro, but on my test machine, three app crashes in an hour. Said screw that and installed CentOS 6, proprietary graphics drivers, Oracle Java and Flash.
#3051 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> Unity isn't all that different from GNOME3, which is why they're both crap.
#3052 [19:13] <hmw> DopeGhoti: I can do that with my console-only LFS... Firefox in frame buffer rofl
#3053 [19:13] * Ryladine looks around for people needing help with minecraft
#3053 [19:13] <Ryladine> Anyone there?
#3054 [19:13] <Ryladine> nope? Ok
#3055 [19:13] <Viking667> hmw: hm. how do I do that for Chrome?
#3056 [19:13] <almostroot> DopeGhoti: in 11.04, unity is overlaid on Gnome 3. 10.10 it was over Gnome 2./
#3057 [19:14] <hmw> well... you could help me fix my ATI related MC problem... *sigh* I gave up and rebooted to Windows again... :(
#3058 [19:14] <Viking667> and, how do I play mc on console? I don't think that there's a java library for character-mode 3D rendering.
#3059 [19:14] <hmw> Viking667: there is certainly a way to utilize the FB for it, too...
#3060 [19:14] * mib_8d4m69 [mib_8d4m69@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3061 [19:15] <Ryladine> brb while windows server instsalls to the virtual machine
#3062 [19:15] <Viking667> hmw: actually, I'm not too sure about that (fixing ATI drivers) myself.
#3063 [19:15] <hmw> Viking667: perpare for a compiling battle.
#3064 [19:15] <Viking667> sigh.
#3065 [19:16] <mib_8d4m69> Hello...we purchased minecraft about 5 days ago and ran it successfully for about 24hrs. Now, we are just getting a blank screen when we try to open it in the browser or download it. Help!
#3066 [19:17] * Ryladine asked too soon
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#3068 [19:17] * Ryladine thinks people should stay to get thier help instead of leaving when a helping is typing
#3068 [19:17] <HankPym> hey, i need some assistance
#3069 [19:18] <Ryladine> What do you need hank?
#3070 [19:18] * zippity [zippity@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3071 [19:18] <HankPym> i'm getting some kind of lag when i'm playing single player
#3072 [19:19] <Ryladine> HankPym: How much RAM does your computer have?
#3073 [19:19] <HankPym> 2GB
#3074 [19:19] <zippity> hey can anyone fix minecraft my wont start i even deleted everything and redownloaded it but i wont work
#3075 [19:19] <Ryladine> ??> zippity ask
#3076 [19:19] <VoxelHead> zippity: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3077 [19:19] <VoxelHead> zippity: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3078 [19:20] <|KiiAtSchool|> ??> zippity specific
#3079 [19:20] <Ryladine> HankPym: Do you run a great deal at the same time as minecraft?
#3080 [19:20] <VoxelHead> zippity: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#3081 [19:20] <VoxelHead> zippity: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#3082 [19:20] <Ryladine> That one fits much better, thanks kii
#3083 [19:20] * |KiiAtSchool| thumbs up and continues on with class
#3083 [19:21] <HankPym> no, even if i only have minecraft and the basic processes it will lag
#3084 [19:22] <hmw> HankPym: also re-installed GPU drivers and java? Bothered to reboot?
#3085 [19:23] <HankPym> k, i'm gonna restart first
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#3087 [19:23] <hmw> omg lol
#3088 [19:23] <zippity> my minecraft wont pop-up when i start it just sits there
#3089 [19:23] <Ryladine> zippity: what do you mean by it won't pop-up?
#3090 [19:24] <Viking667> Can anyone join to 85.236.101.7:28165 (with a 1.7.3 client)?
#3091 [19:24] <Viking667> (Cubic Worlds server)
#3092 [19:24] <zippity> like i click on it and nothing
#3093 [19:24] <almostroot> !check 85.236.101.7:28165
#3094 [19:24] <hmw> Viking667: 3 mintes...
#3095 [19:24] <Ryladine> zippity: have you tried restarting to make sure the process has not frozen?
#3096 [19:25] <zippity> wait my computer
#3097 [19:25] <Ryladine> Yes
#3098 [19:25] <zippity> oh yes this as been happing for about a month
#3099 [19:25] <Ryladine> zippity: Re-download the .exe
#3100 [19:26] <zippity> already tried it almost worked but the main menu wont come up then it quits
#3101 [19:26] <Ryladine> zippity: What version of java are you running?
#3102 [19:26] <hmw> cool... now my whole windows smb is dead
#3103 [19:26] <zippity> and then it does what i said before just sits there
#3104 [19:27] <Ryladine> ??> zippity java/version
#3105 [19:27] <VoxelHead> zippity: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#3106 [19:27] <zippity> i dont know
#3107 [19:27] <VoxelHead> zippity: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3108 [19:27] <hmw> rebooting that lovely machine
#3109 [19:27] <Ryladine> check and I'll brb
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#3111 [19:29] <Ryladine> back
#3112 [19:30] <Ryladine> What did you find zippity?
#3113 [19:31] <Ryladine> Hello? Zippity?
#3114 [19:31] <Ryladine> I'm putting off fixing dinner to help you answer me or I will leave....
#3115 [19:31] <zippity> im on a mac so it wont tell me
#3116 [19:32] <Ryladine> Mac
#3117 [19:32] <Ryladine> Should have asked before...
#3118 [19:32] <zippity> macbook
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#3120 [19:33] <Ryladine> !topic
#3121 [19:33] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: topic [ Channel Rules (Under construction. Use common sense!): http://www.minecraftirc.net/rules/minecrafthelp | Bug tracker: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang | We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues. | Minecraft 1.9-pre is released. We will not support it until its stable release ] ... changed [ almostroot | Sun Sep 25 21:50:56 MST 2011 ] ... undo [ yes ]
#3122 [19:33] <Ryladine> Fff Thats the wrong topic
#3123 [19:33] <Azhdar> hi! i'd like to understand why i cant connect to minecraft anymore
#3124 [19:33] <Ryladine> !isup
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#3126 [19:33] <Ryladine> !isup
#3127 [19:33] <Viking667> !isdown
#3128 [19:33] <GreyBot> Viking667: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#3129 [19:33] <Ryladine> Fff
#3130 [19:33] <HankPym> i think that worked
#3131 [19:33] <Viking667> pttth... 8)
#3132 [19:34] <Ryladine> Aubot why don't you respond...
#3133 [19:34] <Azhdar> so what things possible to do to change the situation?
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#3135 [19:34] <hmw> where shoudl I connect to?
#3136 [19:34] <Azhdar> because i've bought the game and i'd like to play on it
#3137 [19:34] <Azhdar> the fact is that is common recent, like two weeks ago
#3138 [19:35] <Azhdar> and i've downloaded a patch to get new textures
#3139 [19:35] <Azhdar> could it bother the connection?
#3140 [19:36] <hmw> what is that 1.7.3 server?
#3141 [19:36] <Viking667> 85.236.101.7:28165
#3142 [19:36] * mib_ee9lcv [mib_ee9lcv@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3143 [19:37] <hmw> hangs at "logging in"
#3144 [19:37] <Viking667> sorry... just got back from refilling helmet
#3145 [19:37] <Viking667> yup. So it's not just me.
#3146 [19:37] <hmw> time out
#3147 [19:37] <zaizai> Hey can anyone here help me out?
#3148 [19:37] <Viking667> yes.
#3149 [19:37] <hmw> perhaps.
#3150 [19:37] <Viking667> no
#3151 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> not if you rely on our telepathy.
#3152 [19:38] <zaizai> Cool. So i keep going to download minecraft and it says "cannot connect" and under my play offline button it says "not downloaded"
#3153 [19:38] <Viking667> Spit out that trout...
#3154 [19:38] <zaizai> got any solutions?
#3155 [19:38] <hmw> yah. recently, the mind melting procedure is not working so well. probably some evil karmic waves...
#3156 [19:39] <Viking667> hmw: that's supposed to be "melding"... "melting" is insertion into near-solar orbit.
#3157 [19:39] <hmw> interesting
#3158 [19:40] <Viking667> o_0
#3159 [19:40] <zaizai> Yes, no, maybe so?
#3160 [19:40] <Viking667> zaizai: actually, I haven't got any solutions for that one. Sorry.
#3161 [19:40] <hmw> I wonder, what's up with those connection problems all the time...
#3162 [19:40] <hmw> !paid zaizai
#3163 [19:40] <zaizai> Blah. I've tried so much stuff.
#3164 [19:40] <Viking667> Well, I'm about to go clear off to another site to see what servers are up.
#3165 [19:40] <hmw> zaizai: you can browse to the minecraft web site? also log in there?
#3166 [19:41] <zaizai> Yeah. I can't play in browser mode though.
#3167 [19:41] <Viking667> In addition, can you play the game by using the browser?
#3168 [19:41] <Viking667> oh.
#3169 [19:41] <Viking667> What happens in browser mode?
#3170 [19:41] <hmw> he didnt even download the game (the launcher didnt)
#3171 [19:41] <zaizai> It stop at "done loading".
#3172 [19:41] <Viking667> whuff...
#3173 [19:42] <hmw> zaizai: tried rebooting? reinstalling Java? (re-download it)
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#3175 [19:42] <zaizai> I've uninstalled and re-installed both the game and Java =/
#3176 [19:43] <hmw> zaizai: OS? 32bit/64bit? RAM?
#3177 [19:43] <|KiiAtSchool|> zaizai: diamble antivirus and see if thats it... also try updating video drivers
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#3179 [19:43] <|KiiAtSchool|> *disable
#3180 [19:43] <Prowasj> hey i have had an issue that i can't seem to find on the internet
#3181 [19:43] <zaizai> I've turned off my firewall already.
#3182 [19:43] <hmw> |KiiAtSchool|: GPU when not connecting? not likely.
#3183 [19:43] <zaizai> My OS is XP
#3184 [19:44] <|KiiAtSchool|> zaizai: not firewall.. antivirus.
#3185 [19:44] <Prowasj> i log in to myfriends sever and it causes anyone to that is playing to lag and not be able to break blocks
#3186 [19:44] <hmw> zaizai: might be a firewall/antivirus, try kiis suggestion
#3187 [19:44] <|KiiAtSchool|> hmw: this isnt 'stalling in download'?
#3188 [19:45] <hmw> |KiiAtSchool|: don't understand that. He said, the program says "not downloaded yet" when he tries to play offline - one must connect once in order to get the %appdata%/* stuff
#3189 [19:45] <|KiiAtSchool|> Prowasj: just you joining? or him having too many people?
#3190 [19:45] <|KiiAtSchool|> hmw: <zaizai> It stop at "done loading".
#3191 [19:45] <Prowasj> no he can run with about 5 people but when i log in it crashes
#3192 [19:46] <hmw> Prowasj: not able to break blocks? You might be in the spawn area and not have OP status
#3193 [19:46] <|KiiAtSchool|> hmw: im asuming he measn the 'done loading' after 'downloading packages'
#3194 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> Prowasj: you using Zonealarm by any chance?
#3195 [19:46] <hmw> |KiiAtSchool|: i see
#3196 [19:46] <Prowasj> whats op ... soo that base in the spawn was a bad idea .... zonealarm?
#3197 [19:47] <hmw> operator
#3198 [19:47] <hmw> perhaps access permissions gone bad for the home folder? (as it seems to download stuff)
#3199 [19:47] <smerft> can anyone tell me if you can get any viruses from the mods?
#3200 [19:48] <smerft> sorry, i mean texture pack and i don't mean to interrupt...
#3201 [19:48] <SwingBlade> smerft: Theoretically
#3202 [19:48] <hmw> zaizai: navigate to %appdata% and inspect the .minecraft folder. Something in there? Especially a file named %appdata%/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar?
#3203 [19:48] <SwingBlade> Assuming you download from non-reputable sources.
#3204 [19:48] <hmw> smerft: you can get virues. Be cautios, what to install.
#3205 [19:49] <smerft> where is the best place to go to install them? my son really wants them, but i'm a cautious mom
#3206 [19:49] <Prowasj> how do permissions go bad?
#3207 [19:49] <hmw> smerft: texture packs are safe (unless they require you to mod the game)
#3208 [19:49] <SwingBlade> So Minecraft works fine on another Windows profile.
#3209 [19:49] <hmw> Prowasj: it has happened to me. don't ask why or how.
#3210 [19:49] <Prowasj> ok what do i need to do?
#3211 [19:50] <hmw> Prowasj: that line was for zaizai
#3212 [19:50] <Prowasj> oh
#3213 [19:50] <hmw> your game is obviously running, even if badly
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#3215 [19:50] <BlackGyver> smerft, you shouldn't have any problem with the biggest mods out there either, it's the new obscure mods you should be aware of
#3216 [19:51] <smerft> do you have any sites that would be good to go to?
#3217 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> smerft: most of the mods or texture packs on the wiki are most likely safe
#3218 [19:51] <BlackGyver> Well, the minecraft forums have it all
#3219 [19:51] <Prowasj> well yeah I just cant play or do anything productive and i shut down everyone elses ability to do anything
#3220 [19:51] <smerft> sphax purebdcraft ok?
#3221 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> smerft: whatever you download, if it's a texture pack, make certain that there are no .exe files (for example) in the archive and you should be fine
#3222 [19:52] <smerft> wiki?
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#3224 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> smerft: www.minecraftwiki.net
#3225 [19:52] <smerft> ah, cool. Thanks all!
#3226 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> \o
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#3228 [19:54] <keats> I can't make this work on my mac. Any suggestions?
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#3230 [19:59] <zaizai> hey so all that stuff still didnt help...
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#3232 [20:07] <Nekogui> Someone here?
#3233 [20:09] <smerft> hey, i'm here, but i don't know anything ;)
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#3236 [20:10] <drumgod> hello
#3237 [20:10] <zaizai> Hey anyone here that can help me out?
#3238 [20:10] <drumgod> With what
#3239 [20:11] <zaizai> Can't play minecraft.
#3240 [20:11] <drumgod> Why not what happens
#3241 [20:11] <zaizai> I've been trying to fix it for 2 hours today and 1 yesterday.
#3242 [20:11] <drumgod> You can try going in to %appdata% and delete the folder but save any tecture packs and world your want to save.
#3243 [20:12] <drumgod> If that doesntwork bring up the launcher then go to options and force update.
#3244 [20:12] <drumgod> Also try inbrowser if that doesnt work try redownloading the game.
#3245 [20:13] <zaizai> Ok, so I bought minecraft and I went to download it. I clicked the download and the patcher popped up and it says cannot connect and under try again it says not downloaded
#3246 [20:13] <zaizai> and I have
#3247 [20:13] <zaizai> and ive uninstalled
#3248 [20:13] <drumgod> What type of computer do u have.
#3249 [20:13] <drumgod> Mac or PC
#3250 [20:14] <zaizai> Pc
#3251 [20:14] <drumgod> Which download did u click the first or the second?
#3252 [20:14] <zaizai> There's only one?
#3253 [20:15] <zaizai> the one that says 270kb or whatever it is
#3254 [20:15] <Nekogui> i have one random crash sometimes, and idk wt happens
#3255 [20:15] <zaizai> i havent been able to play at all yet
#3256 [20:15] <drumgod> When the pop up says run, save, and cancle click save and save to desktop
#3257 [20:15] <zaizai> and i bought it yesterday
#3258 [20:16] <zaizai> It doesnt give me the option to save. It only says run.
#3259 [20:16] <drumgod> then hit run and tell me what happens well go step by step.
#3260 [20:17] <zaizai> ok
#3261 [20:17] <zaizai> i just clicked downloads
#3262 [20:17] <drumgod> The minecraft launcher should pop up.
#3263 [20:17] <zaizai> Opened minecraft and hit tun. the launcher comes up.
#3264 [20:17] <zaizai> I entered my info and it says cannot connect.
#3265 [20:18] <drumgod> Make sure the info is correct. Do you have Wi-Fi.
#3266 [20:18] <zaizai> I can hit play offline but the screen blacks out
#3267 [20:18] <zaizai> Yeah the infos right and I do have wi-fi
#3268 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> Does your Windows username have a '!' in it?
#3269 [20:19] <drumgod> What do u mean my user name for my PC?
#3270 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#3271 [20:19] <drumgod> Nope
#3272 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> ??> drumgod win/profile
#3273 [20:19] <VoxelHead> drumgod: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3274 [20:19] <VoxelHead> drumgod: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3275 [20:19] <drumgod> Im not the one having problems.
#3276 [20:20] <zaizai> Yeah my username does have an ! in it.
#3277 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> drumgod: then why did you answer the diagnostic question?
#3278 [20:20] <zaizai> I'm the one with issues.
#3279 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> zaizai: that's a known issue
#3280 [20:20] <drumgod> Which question
#3281 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> zaizai: Create a new Windows account which does _not_ have a '!' in it.
#3282 [20:20] <zaizai> Wow. Simple as that. Hah thanks.
#3283 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> That'll be $8 (:
#3284 [20:21] <hmw> aaah omg
#3285 [20:21] <drumgod> * dollars for what.
#3286 [20:21] <hmw> who uses special characters in names?? arg
#3287 [20:22] <drumgod> DopeGhoti what Diagnostic question?
#3288 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> hmw: people who are Really!Excited!About!Their!Names! ?
#3289 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> drumgod: let it pass.
#3290 [20:22] <drumgod> k
#3291 [20:22] <drumgod> Does anyone know much about multiplayer servers
#3292 [20:23] <hmw> sure. i forgot, that most people think of a pc as if it was a tape recorder. I'd never have come to the idea to use anything else besides the english alphabet for user names lol
#3293 [20:23] <hmw> drumgod: as
#3294 [20:23] <hmw> ask a question
#3295 [20:23] <drumgod> How t oset one up correctly. I made one but it says there is connection issues.
#3296 [20:23] <hmw> what error message exactly?
#3297 [20:24] <drumgod> That the connection isnt working and a big red x comes over the wifi / loading bar in multiplayer.
#3298 [20:24] <drumgod> It says cant reach server.
#3299 [20:25] <hmw> what is that wifi loading bar?
#3300 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> ??> drumgod smp/serversetup
#3301 [20:25] <VoxelHead> drumgod: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#3302 [20:25] <VoxelHead> drumgod: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#3303 [20:25] <drumgod> Thanx
#3304 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> hmw: the 'connection status' icon in the server browser, I'd guess
#3305 [20:25] <hmw> i wouldnt run a server over wifi
#3306 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> nor would I
#3307 [20:25] <drumgod> WHy not
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#3309 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> Wireless is flaky and slow?
#3310 [20:26] <DillanXD> hello?
#3311 [20:26] <drumgod> I am doing it of my main comp. not a laptop so i dont need wifi.
#3312 [20:26] <hmw> DillanXD: hi. don't ask, if you can ask. ask, if you have a question.
#3313 [20:26] <drumgod> ok
#3314 [20:26] <drumgod> never mind u werent talking to me
#3315 [20:27] <DillanXD> I need help with running my minecraft
#3316 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> care to be more specific?
#3317 [20:28] <DillanXD> i can open the login. but when i press login it starts the game but before it even says mojang it closes no error message?
#3318 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> ??+ win/!|Minecraft is known not to work properly on Windows-based computers upon which users have a '!' or other special characters in their usernames.;;Create a new account with only alphanumerics in the username, and run Minecraft from there. And lay off the 1337$p3@|< in the future.
#3319 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> ??> DillanXD won/reinst
#3320 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> ??> DillanXD win/reinst
#3321 [20:29] <VoxelHead> DillanXD: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3322 [20:29] <VoxelHead> DillanXD: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3323 [20:29] <DillanXD> Ive deleted my .minecraft and reinstalled allready
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#3325 [20:30] <DillanXD> still wont work
#3326 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> ??> DillanXD win/profile
#3327 [20:30] <VoxelHead> DillanXD: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3328 [20:30] <VoxelHead> DillanXD: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3329 [20:30] <DillanXD> ok
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#3332 [20:35] <DillanXD> Did not work
#3333 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> DillanXD: what versio okay nevermind, seeya
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#3336 [20:40] <ThunderHOWL14> hey can i have some help?
#3337 [20:41] <ThunderHOWL14> any one?
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#3339 [20:42] <ThunderHOWL14> when ever i start my game i see the game for a bit then it crashes!
#3340 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#3341 [20:42] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3342 [20:42] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3343 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> hmm, have any mods installed?
#3344 [20:43] <ThunderHOWL14> no
#3345 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> ??> ThunderHOWL14 win/reinst
#3346 [20:43] <VoxelHead> ThunderHOWL14: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3347 [20:43] <VoxelHead> ThunderHOWL14: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3348 [20:45] <hmw> what good is a forced redownload, if there were no mods?
#3349 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> hmw: Minecraft has a tendenct to corrupt itself and sometimes just need a kick in the nads (read: reinstallation)
#3350 [20:46] <DopeGhoti> hmw: also, some folks lie like rugs.
#3351 [20:46] <hmw> really? how can that be? Notch, please learn to program for a change...
#3352 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> in other channels I chill in, it's common to end explanations of insane things happening with "... because Notch."
#3353 [20:47] <hmw> I see.
#3354 [20:48] <hmw> We had some "Floder-code" which is spaghetticode^2... Notch-code is spaghetticode^3
#3355 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> Notch's code isn't spaghetti code, per se, it's just.. not designed with forethought.
#3356 [20:50] <hmw> i know
#3357 [20:50] <hmw> well... it's not _designed_ at all, I'd guess. I am impressed, that he got that far.
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#3360 [20:55] <dray75> hello?
#3361 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> Guten Tag!
#3362 [20:55] <dray75> Could you help me?
#3363 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> not if you rely exclusively upon my telepathy.
#3364 [20:56] <dray75> oh
#3365 [20:56] <dray75> haha
#3366 [20:56] <dray75> Well im trying to buy minecraftbeta
#3367 [20:56] <dray75> im from the us and it keeps
#3368 [20:56] <dray75> converting to euros
#3369 [20:56] <dray75> its frustrating
#3370 [20:56] <dray75> im trying to use paypal
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#3372 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> Well, that's because Minecraft is sold in Sweeden, and they use Euro as currenct there
#3373 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> PayPal will convert your dollars to Euros though with no problem
#3374 [20:59] <dray75> Oh, I have $23 on my credit card. Attached to paypal. It keeps failing when i try to buy
#3375 [21:00] <dray75> I've also tried to use my credit card directly
#3376 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> 20 euros = 27.2960 US dollars
#3377 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> that might explain things
#3378 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> you need another five bucks (:
#3379 [21:00] <dray75> But the game is only 15 euros...14.95
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#3381 [21:01] <DopeGhoti> My mistake
#3382 [21:01] <DopeGhoti> I never could get the hang of Mondays.
#3383 [21:01] <dray75> Yeah
#3384 [21:02] <DopeGhoti> Try, in PayPal, just putting the monies into your PayPal account, and then funding the Minecraft purchase directly from PayPal?
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#3387 [21:09] <Impl0x> hello?
#3388 [21:09] <TheNytangel> Huh
#3389 [21:10] <TheNytangel> How long did he wait?
#3390 [21:10] <TheBadShepperd> Twentyfour seconds.
#3391 [21:10] <TheNytangel> I was actually about to help someone today...
#3392 [21:10] <TheNytangel> Since I haven't wanted to move from being in a warm spot with fevers all day :P
#3393 [21:11] <TheBadShepperd> :o
#3394 [21:11] * TheBadShepperd gives TheNytangel a ice tea and 'get well soon' card.
#3394 [21:11] <TheNytangel> Tomorrow is my last day off from school
#3395 [21:12] <TheNytangel> And now all of a sudden a billion people are advertising on tv that they have website to make website. FOR FREE
#3396 [21:12] <TheNytangel> Have a website*
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#3398 [21:13] <Lehl> hi there everyone
#3399 [21:13] <hmw> ahoy lehl
#3400 [21:13] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#3401 [21:13] <Lehl> any germans out there?^^
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#3403 [21:13] <TheNytangel> Lehl, I know a little :)
#3404 [21:13] * mib_wt7r9c [mib_wt7r9c@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3405 [21:13] <mib_wt7r9c> hi
#3406 [21:13] <hmw> ich spreche Deutsch, aber das wäre unhöflich den anderen gegenüber
#3407 [21:13] <Lehl> i got a little problem with my nether portal on my server its harder to explain in english for me^^
#3408 [21:13] <mib_wt7r9c> so my computer says that minecraft cant find the library of something
#3409 [21:14] <mib_wt7r9c> what do i do
#3410 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_wt7r9c error
#3411 [21:14] <VoxelHead> mib_wt7r9c: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#3412 [21:14] <VoxelHead> mib_wt7r9c: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#3413 [21:14] <TheNytangel> Lehl, sounds like more than I know. Use a translator? :P
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#3415 [21:14] <Lehl> hmw gibts denn nen whisper chat oder dergleichen?
#3416 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> Lehl: Wie kann ich Sie helfen?
#3417 [21:14] <Lehl> well i just try it in english
#3418 [21:14] <discgnome> keep getting login failure, having to play off line. Recently changed password to mc site, new or old not working for play
#3419 [21:14] <mib_wt7r9c> my minecraft cant find the library?
#3420 [21:14] <mib_wt7r9c> what does that mean
#3421 [21:14] <Lehl> situation is pretty simple
#3422 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> ??> discgnome account
#3423 [21:14] <VoxelHead> discgnome: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#3424 [21:14] <VoxelHead> discgnome: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#3425 [21:15] <hmw> Lehl: you mean some private talk? I guess, english is the best solution, so others can check my responses and prevent me from giving bad instructions.
#3426 [21:15] <TheNytangel> discgnome, have you downloaded the new launcher?
#3427 [21:15] <discgnome> thanks
#3428 [21:15] <mib_wt7r9c> idk how
#3429 [21:15] <mib_wt7r9c> what does that mean
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#3432 [21:15] <mib_wt7r9c> how do i get minecraft to find the library
#3433 [21:15] <mib_wt7r9c> idk what happened
#3434 [21:15] <Lehl> i built a portal in a small room on main world .. it works fine. my problem is everytime i travel from the nethe portal to overworld it created a new portal near to the one i created.. i dont want it to do this any ideas whats the problem?
#3435 [21:15] <mib_wt7r9c> ive erased everything and now nothing works
#3436 [21:16] <mib_qhd6g3> does anyone know how to connect to a minecraft server w/ tunngle??
#3437 [21:16] <mib_wt7r9c> how can i get minecraft to download correctly
#3438 [21:17] <hmw> mib_wt7r9c: start with reading, what we are saying to you. What error message exactly? (It's like saying "my car makes a weird noise" to the mechanic, expecting that he knows what is wrong)
#3439 [21:18] <Lehl> and i just see moving to nether causes errorsO.o wonder cus i can move to nether without problemsO.o
#3440 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> Lehl: So you build a portal, go to the nether, go back through the same portal, and it makes a new portal in the 'normal' world?
#3441 [21:19] <Lehl> exactly dope
#3442 [21:19] <Lehl> and its causing serve errors i see
#3443 [21:19] <hmw> Lehl: did you create the old portal before 1.8?
#3444 [21:19] <DopeGhoti> what sort of errors?
#3445 [21:21] <Lehl> uhm i would paste it here
#3446 [21:21] <Lehl> but how to copy?
#3447 [21:21] <Lehl> i created it just 10 minutes ago so no not before 1.8;P
#3448 [21:21] <hmw> !pastebin
#3449 [21:22] <hmw> Lehl: use www.pastebin.com
#3450 [21:22] <TheNytangel> ?? pastebin
#3451 [21:22] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#3452 [21:23] <Lehl> and how to get my errors pasted in pastebin?
#3453 [21:24] <TheNytangel> Lehl, ctrl + v
#3454 [21:24] <Lehl> u cannot use that in the command window^^
#3455 [21:24] <Lehl> but i guess i found it
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#3458 [21:25] <mib_96b22i> cows
#3459 [21:25] <Universezero> Yo. Any people here that can help with some redstone?
#3460 [21:25] <mib_96b22i> help
#3461 [21:25] <xales> pigs
#3462 [21:25] <Universezero> I basically have a floor of pistons, and I want them to all go up and down with a single switch.
#3463 [21:25] * mib_o0qtxt [mib_o0qtxt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3464 [21:25] <peru_> chickens
#3465 [21:26] <mib_o0qtxt> test
#3466 [21:26] <xales> derp
#3467 [21:26] <mib_o0qtxt> test again
#3468 [21:26] <TheNytangel> Universezero, a 5-clock and a lever
#3469 [21:26] <Universezero> Anyone know an easy way to do this?
#3470 [21:26] <xales> derp again
#3471 [21:26] <mib_o0qtxt> stupid router reconn
#3472 [21:26] <Universezero> Why a 5-clock?
#3473 [21:26] <TheNytangel> Universezero, because it keeps going on and off and on and off
#3474 [21:26] <TheNytangel> Etc.
#3475 [21:26] <hmw> I am looking for a page that explains Bukkit to me. I don't want to learn how to install it, I need instructions on how to use it. Can't find my way through the wiki. Can you please give me a hint, what I should be searching for?
#3476 [21:26] <mib_o0qtxt> uhm how to rename me back to lehl?
#3477 [21:26] <TheNytangel> hmw, #bukkit
#3478 [21:27] <hmw> thx
#3479 [21:27] <Universezero> ...I just need an easy way of wiring all the pistons to a single switch
#3480 [21:27] <Universezero> I don't need it to turn on and off by itself
#3481 [21:27] <mib_96b22i> my game works fine but after 1-2 min it shut's off and a txt document shows up as a icon and has a name like EER_PD_(number here) help please!!!!!
#3482 [21:27] <TheNytangel> Universezero, do you want it to keep going when you click a switch/button or just go once?
#3483 [21:27] <Universezero> Just once
#3484 [21:27] <mib_o0qtxt> test
#3485 [21:28] <Universezero> I've essenitally got a 5x5 grid of redstone torches underneath, and I just want to be able to turn them all off and all on at once.
#3486 [21:28] <mib_o0qtxt> uhm how can i rename myself?
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#3488 [21:28] <xales> /nick NAME
#3489 [21:28] <TheNytangel> ??> mib_o0qtxt mibnick
#3490 [21:28] <mib_96b22i> help?
#3491 [21:28] <Lehl> ahh thx
#3492 [21:28] <TheNytangel> >.>
#3493 [21:28] <Lehl> so
#3494 [21:28] <TheNytangel> Forgot irc
#3495 [21:28] <Universezero> Any ideas?
#3496 [21:29] <TheNytangel> Universezero, is it single player?
#3497 [21:29] * mib_xk7lyt [mib_xk7lyt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3498 [21:29] <mib_96b22i> I my game works fine but after 1-2 min it shut's off and a txt document shows up as a icon and has a name like EER_PD_(number here) help please!!!!!
#3499 [21:29] <Universezero> Yes. Why is it relevant?
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#3501 [21:29] <TheNytangel> Universezero, have you tried a 5x5 grid of redstone wire under it?
#3502 [21:29] <Lehl> funny how it disconnects me if im using pastebin
#3503 [21:29] <Universezero> Let me try that
#3504 [21:30] <mib_xk7lyt> can i talk to a admin
#3505 [21:30] <Universezero> It doesn't work.
#3506 [21:30] <mib_96b22i> my game works fine but after 1-2 min it shut's off and a txt document shows up as a icon and has a name like EER_PD_(number here) help please!!!!!
#3507 [21:30] <Universezero> It does not turn off any of the torches
#3508 [21:30] <Lehl> so are the ppl who wanted to help me with my portal problem still here?
#3509 [21:30] <TheNytangel> Universezero, replace the torches with the redstone wire is what I meant
#3510 [21:31] <Universezero> Under the pistons? Huh. I'll try that
#3511 [21:31] <TheNytangel> Yeah
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#3514 [21:31] <mib_96b22i> my game works fine but after 1-2 min it shut's off and a txt document shows up as a icon and has a name like EER_PD_(number here) help please!!!!!
#3515 [21:31] <TheNytangel> ??> mib_96b22i pastebin
#3516 [21:31] <VoxelHead> mib_96b22i: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#3517 [21:31] <Universezero> Nope, doesn't work. The pistons don't move.
#3518 [21:31] <TheNytangel> mib_96b22i, paste it there
#3519 [21:32] <TheNytangel> Universezero, try #redstone
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#3521 [21:32] <mib_96b22i> http://pastebin.com/Rqzqje8w
#3522 [21:33] <WoM-Guest> could anyone help me with a little problem im having with setting up a minecraft server it has to do with the .bat file when i run it afterwards cmd pops up real fast and closes out
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#3524 [21:33] <TheNytangel> mib_96b22i, that is PART of a dxdiag, not an error report
#3525 [21:33] <TheNytangel> ??> WoM-Guest smp/serversetup
#3526 [21:33] <VoxelHead> WoM-Guest: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#3527 [21:33] <VoxelHead> WoM-Guest: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#3528 [21:34] <mib_96b22i> mind craft is still shuting down after 1-2 min of play and nothing i can do!?!?!?
#3529 [21:35] <TheNytangel> mib_96b22i, you didn't give us the ERROR
#3530 [21:35] <Lehl> <script src="http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=4uxFeyiX"></script>
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#3532 [21:35] <Lehl> seems like its working
#3533 [21:35] <Lehl> kinda
#3534 [21:35] <Lehl> soooo
#3535 [21:35] <mib_96b22i> I start mindcraft after 1-2 min it randomly shuts down
#3536 [21:36] <Lehl> uhm
#3537 [21:36] <mib_96b22i> ok
#3538 [21:36] <mib_96b22i> i am confusied
#3539 [21:36] <Lehl> so anyone free to help me?
#3540 [21:36] <TheNytangel> mib_96b22i, if there is an error on your desktop, open it, copy it, paste it to pastebin, give us the link
#3541 [21:36] <mib_96b22i> one sec
#3542 [21:37] <mib_96b22i> wate the errer name or its con tents
#3543 [21:37] <Lehl> hmm where are those ppl i talked before my stupid disconnecting?
#3544 [21:37] <mib_96b22i> or both
#3545 [21:37] <TheNytangel> mib_96b22i, contents
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#3547 [21:37] <almostroot> Lehl: Try #bukkit for support with bukkit.
#3548 [21:37] <guest-508422-25300> Hi
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#3551 [21:38] <Lehl> oh well i just try this: i got a problem with my nether portal i built like 20 minutes before... it worked fine... but if im traveling back to overworld its creating a new portal near the portal i built before... it shouldnt do this.. and i also got tons of errors while porting... heres the link http://pastebin.com/4uxFeyiX thanks in advance
#3552 [21:38] <mib_fwnb63> sorry diff name
#3553 [21:39] <almostroot> Lehl: You are using bukkit. It is not the official client. We will not provide support here. Try #bukkit
#3554 [21:39] <mib_fwnb63> i will be pasting the name now
#3555 [21:39] <Lehl> oh didnt knew thatxD first time i use this chat thingy here but thx for redirecting;P almostroot
#3556 [21:39] <mib_fwnb63> http://pastebin.com/cQVjW5mE
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#3558 [21:40] <almostroot> mib_fwnb63: Using Windows?
#3559 [21:40] <TheNytangel> ??> mib_fwnb63 error/javacrash
#3560 [21:40] <VoxelHead> mib_fwnb63: (error/javacrash) A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment
#3561 [21:40] <VoxelHead> mib_fwnb63: (error/javacrash) This error happens when something causes java to become unstable. The usual culprit is lwjgl (and therefore video drivers), however, it can be caused by a broken JVM. Reinstall your video card drivers, and if that fails, run javara and then reinstall java.
#3562 [21:40] <mib_fwnb63> yes xp 2002
#3563 [21:40] * almostroot sighs.
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#3564 [21:41] <almostroot> mib_fwnb63: Mind running a dxdiag?
#3565 [21:41] <almostroot> ??> mib_fwnb63 win/dxdiag
#3566 [21:41] <VoxelHead> mib_fwnb63: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3567 [21:41] <VoxelHead> mib_fwnb63: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3568 [21:42] <quibbit> my computer will not run the game because it says i do not have the right drivers
#3569 [21:42] <mib_fwnb63> http://pastebin.com/1GhJj4mF
#3570 [21:42] <xales> quibbit: Then install the right drivers
#3571 [21:42] <TheNytangel> almostroot, 1G of ram..
#3572 [21:42] <almostroot> TheNytangel: Thus the sigh.
#3573 [21:43] <TheNytangel> :P
#3574 [21:43] <mib_fwnb63> ?
#3575 [21:43] <angus0429> can someone help me? i have a problem playing Minecraft
#3576 [21:43] <almostroot> mib_fwnb63: I have a room full of your computer's big brothers that are maxed out. Sadly, yours is not.
#3577 [21:43] <quibbit> so how do i get the right drivers on my old computer is there any website links or what
#3578 [21:43] <TheNytangel> Lol
#3579 [21:44] <mib_fwnb63> ?
#3580 [21:44] <xales> quibbit: Do you know how to use Google? Try it.
#3581 [21:44] <xales> ._.
#3582 [21:44] <almostroot> mib_fwnb63: You only gave us part of the report.
#3583 [21:44] <mib_fwnb63> all of it ok
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#3585 [21:44] <almostroot> mib_fwnb63: Save it, then open it and copy the entire contents.
#3586 [21:44] <Spingebill> Hello?
#3587 [21:44] <angus0429> Can someone tell me what this means
#3588 [21:44] <angus0429> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x52e0b4c7, pid=5252, tid=4464 # # JRE version: 7.0-b147 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (21.0-b17 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [atioglx1.dll+0x3fb4c7] # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by d
#3589 [21:45] <quibbit> can anyone help me get the right gaming drivers so i van play mine craft
#3590 [21:45] <almostroot> angus0429: It means you're using Java 7. Uninstall it and install version 6 update 27.
#3591 [21:45] <TheNytangel> Uh oh..
#3592 [21:45] <angus0429> ok thank you
#3593 [21:45] <mib_fwnb63> http://pastebin.com/3MEPKPHz
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#3595 [21:45] <Speedylegs8> hello?
#3596 [21:46] <Speedylegs8> anyone there?
#3597 [21:46] <quibbit> can any one tell me what drivers are needed to play minecraft
#3598 [21:46] <Spingebill> Alrighty. I have a WorldEdit question. How would I go upon replacing one material within a certain radius with air?
#3599 [21:46] <Speedylegs8> idk
#3600 [21:47] <Speedylegs8> you must goto the minecraft wiki
#3601 [21:47] <Speedylegs8> and click blocks
#3602 [21:47] <Spingebill> Almostroot?
#3603 [21:47] <Speedylegs8> then there are a lsit of blocks with ids
#3604 [21:47] <Spingebill> I know that.
#3605 [21:47] <mib_fwnb63> http://pastebin.com/3MEPKPHz
#3606 [21:47] <Speedylegs8> then just find 1 you want then do //set (number)
#3607 [21:48] <Spingebill> That's not what I'm asking.
#3608 [21:48] <TheNoodle> if you want a sphere around you use //cyl
#3609 [21:48] <Spingebill> THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING.
#3610 [21:48] <TheNoodle> How would I go upon replacing one material withina certain radius with air
#3611 [21:48] <Speedylegs8> dude cool down or you get no help
#3612 [21:48] <Speedylegs8> / 0
#3613 [21:48] <Speedylegs8> its //0
#3614 [21:48] <TheNoodle> hmm //sphere
#3615 [21:48] <TheNoodle> not cyl
#3616 [21:49] * TheNoodle facepalms
#3616 [21:49] <Spingebill> I AM ASKING THIS: I want to replace a certain material (let's say wood for example) within a certain radius (let's say 100 squares)
#3617 [21:49] <almostroot> Speedylegs8: Wrong channel, and check the attitude. #bukkit for bukkit questions, #risucraft for mods.
#3618 [21:49] <Speedylegs8> you make no sence go youtube it
#3619 [21:49] <TheNoodle> ...
#3620 [21:49] <almostroot> Speedylegs8: Sorry.
#3621 [21:49] <TheNoodle> Spingebill, //sphere 100 5 0
#3622 [21:49] <almostroot> Spingebill: : Wrong channel, and check the attitude. #bukkit for bukkit questions, #risucraft for mods.
#3623 [21:49] <Spingebill> GTFO
#3624 [21:49] <mib_fwnb63> ?
#3625 [21:49] * almostroot kicked Speedylegs8 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: peedylegs8 :Speedylegs8)
#3626 [21:49] <mib_fwnb63> http://pastebin.com/3MEPKPHz
#3627 [21:49] <almostroot> Erm
#3628 [21:49] * almostroot kicked Spingebill from #minecrafthelp (Reason: pingebill :Spingebill)
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#3630 [21:50] <TheNoodle> ..
#3631 [21:50] <Spingebill> What the fuck? Douchebag.
#3632 [21:50] * AuBot kicked Spingebill from #minecrafthelp (Reason: pingebill :Please keep it civil.)
#3633 [21:50] <TheNoodle> lol
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#3635 [21:50] <Spingebill> I had a question!
#3636 [21:50] <TheNoodle> You were given an answer.
#3637 [21:50] <Spingebill> NO I WASN'T
#3638 [21:50] <TheNoodle> Yes, you wre.
#3639 [21:50] * VoxelHead kicked Spingebill from #minecrafthelp (Reason: pingebill :Banned)
#3640 [21:50] <TheNoodle> *were
#3641 [21:50] <TheNoodle> idiot :/
#3642 [21:50] <mib_fwnb63> lol
#3643 [21:51] <mib_fwnb63> http://pastebin.com/3MEPKPHz
#3644 [21:52] <almostroot> Tried to invite Speedylegs back. ;.;
#3645 [21:52] <almostroot> I feel bad.
#3646 [21:52] <TheNoodle> lol
#3647 [21:52] <TheNytangel> almostroot, pm him
#3648 [21:52] <TheNytangel> ?
#3649 [21:52] <TheNoodle> He left :/
#3650 [21:53] <almostroot> TheNytangel: No such nick
#3651 [21:53] <Lehl> oh great it seems like noone can help on 'bukkit
#3652 [21:53] <TheNoodle> Lehl, what's your problem?
#3653 [21:53] <TheNoodle> though it should probably go in #bukkit
#3654 [21:53] * angus0429 [angus0429@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3655 [21:53] <Lehl> thats what i mean
#3656 [21:53] <mib_fwnb63> http://pastebin.com/3MEPKPHz
#3657 [21:53] <angus0429> hey im back.
#3658 [21:53] <Lehl> it seems like noone can or want to help^^
#3659 [21:54] <angus0429> i had no luck with java ver.6
#3660 [21:54] <mib_fwnb63> http://pastebin.com/cQVjW5mE
#3661 [21:54] <mib_fwnb63> http://pastebin.com/3MEPKPHz
#3662 [21:54] <lemon-rev> lehl if you wish to run bukkit no help in here but if you wish to run just beta minecraft we can help ok end of story
#3663 [21:54] <TheNoodle> That's an odd error Lehl.
#3664 [21:54] <TheNoodle> Nether portals are a bit...fidly
#3665 [21:55] <TheNoodle> And since that error doesn't occur when craftbukkit is running without any plugins chances are it's one of them.
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#3667 [21:56] <angus0429> can someone look at this and help me
#3668 [21:56] <angus0429> http://pastebin.com/MVPJ6tC9
#3669 [21:56] <Lehl> what means fidly?
#3670 [21:56] <Ryladine> Moment angus
#3671 [21:56] <mib_fwnb63> HELP!?!?! gtg in 2 min!
#3672 [21:57] <mib_fwnb63> http://pastebin.com/cQVjW5mE http://pastebin.com/3MEPKPHz
#3673 [21:57] <mib_fwnb63> got to go!?!
#3674 [21:57] <almostroot> mib_fwnb63: Download and install these drivers: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/fire/Legacy/Pages/fire_xp.aspx?type=2.4.3&product=2.4.3.3.2.3.14&lang=English
#3675 [21:57] <mib_fwnb63> ok
#3676 [21:57] <almostroot> angus0429: Update your graphics card drivers from AMD's site.
#3677 [21:57] <almostroot> ??> angus0429 gpu/amd
#3678 [21:58] <VoxelHead> angus0429: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
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#3681 [21:58] <angus0429> did that already and it didnt change
#3682 [21:58] <bingbong> i need help
#3683 [21:58] <Ryladine> almostroot can you look at angus's as well I can't see anything I could call a problem but I don't know how to read those terribly well
#3684 [21:58] <almostroot> angus0429: Try uninstalling Java 7 and installing version 6 update 27.
#3685 [21:59] <angus0429> did that
#3686 [21:59] <angus0429> no change either
#3687 [21:59] <almostroot> angus0429: Not according to that report.
#3688 [21:59] <angus0429> well i installed 6 and thats what i got
#3689 [22:00] <bingbong> when ever i installed toomany items i cant press esc to get to the options menu please help!!!!!!!!
#3690 [22:00] <Ryladine> angus: you need to uninstall 7
#3691 [22:00] <almostroot> bingbong:
#3692 [22:00] <Ryladine> bingbog: force update
#3693 [22:00] <angus0429> ill try that again
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#3695 [22:00] <almostroot> bingbong: We don;t support mods here. We can give you directions to reinstall and remove them.
#3696 [22:00] <almostroot> bingbong: Are you using Windows?
#3697 [22:01] <bingbong> ok :)0
#3698 [22:01] <bingbong> t(creeper)
#3699 [22:01] <bingbong> t(creeper)
#3700 [22:01] <bingbong> :D
#3701 [22:01] <almostroot> bingbong: Are you using Windows?
#3702 [22:01] <bingbong> yes window 7
#3703 [22:01] <almostroot> ??> bingbong win/reinst/bat
#3704 [22:01] <VoxelHead> bingbong: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#3705 [22:01] <VoxelHead> bingbong: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
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#3707 [22:02] <bingbong> i down loaded it
#3708 [22:03] <angus0429> ok now it says ver.6 update 27 is already installed
#3709 [22:03] <almostroot> bingbong: Save it, close Minecraft, run it, let it finish, run Minecraft.
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#3711 [22:04] <bingbong> will my world still be on it?
#3712 [22:04] <angus0429> Ryladine: it says ver.6 update 27 is already installed
#3713 [22:04] <almostroot> bingbong: Yes.
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#3715 [22:04] <bingbong> oh tahnk u
#3716 [22:04] <almostroot> angus0429: Run Minecraft, see what happens, provide a brand new error report if it crashes.
#3717 [22:05] <bingbong> do you think you know why that happened
#3718 [22:05] <angus0429> ok
#3719 [22:05] <bingbong> t?!?
#3720 [22:05] <bingbong> :?
#3721 [22:05] <WugBot> is not set.
#3722 [22:05] <almostroot> bingbong: Mods are unstable.
#3723 [22:06] <bingbong> no i mean y did it do that i just draged over the class files and then deleted the META-INF
#3724 [22:06] <bingbong> then it wouldnt let me use Esc
#3725 [22:06] <almostroot> bingbong: Mods are not yet supported, and are unstable.
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#3727 [22:06] <mib_6ynev2> i can't find the demo version of minecraft on its homepage. >.<
#3728 [22:07] <angus0429> almostroot: http://pastebin.com/gDRp3MtR
#3729 [22:07] <almostroot> mib_6ynev2: There is no demo, only classic.,
#3730 [22:07] <mib_6ynev2> demo classic whatever
#3731 [22:07] <bingbong> aww wel thank you i hope they will be supported soon
#3732 [22:07] <almostroot> angus0429: Go to Programs and Features, and remove ALL versions of Java installed. You may have to close your web browsers. Then install a fresh copy of version 6 update 27.
#3733 [22:08] <almostroot> mib_6ynev2: There's a link.
#3734 [22:08] <angus0429> almostroot: ok ill be back if i have no luck
#3735 [22:08] <bingbong> bie! thanks (>"o")>I*
#3736 [22:08] <mib_6ynev2> ;)
#3737 [22:10] <mib_6ynev2> but really where is the classic at?
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#3739 [22:11] <mib_6ynev2> :/
#3740 [22:12] <mib_6ynev2> where is it?
#3741 [22:14] <mib_6ynev2> FUCK THIS
#3742 [22:14] * AuBot kicked mib_6ynev2 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_6ynev2 :Please keep it civil.)
#3743 [22:17] <Ryladine> Yeah.. Nice
#3744 [22:17] <Ryladine> You there almost?
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#3747 [22:21] <Ryladine> Anyone here need help with minecraft?
#3748 [22:23] <TheNoodle> When i try to join one server i play on sometimes clicking on it in the server list just takes me back to the menu, thoughts?
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#3750 [22:23] <TheNoodle> It's only that server
#3751 [22:23] <CJ> hey guys can yall help me with this problem i have
#3752 [22:24] <Ryladine> Sounds like a glitch in minecraft noodle, you tried removing that one and re-adding it?
#3753 [22:24] <Ryladine> ?? ask
#3754 [22:24] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3755 [22:24] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3756 [22:24] <Guest68867> i cant play minecraft even though i have bought the ghame and played it multiple times
#3757 [22:24] <Ryladine> Explain?
#3758 [22:24] <Guest68867> the screen will just turn black or white then the program wont respond
#3759 [22:24] <Guest68867> and i have updated java
#3760 [22:25] <Ryladine> Which version of java are you running?
#3761 [22:25] <Guest68867> it started when the update came out
#3762 [22:25] <Ryladine> Ah
#3763 [22:25] <Ryladine> Are you running a MAC?
#3764 [22:25] <Guest68867> but i can play it on other computers
#3765 [22:25] <Guest68867> no
#3766 [22:25] <Guest68867> window
#3767 [22:25] <Ryladine> Update your video card drivers.
#3768 [22:25] <Guest68867> umm how do i do that
#3769 [22:26] <Guest68867> im horrible with computers sorry
#3770 [22:26] <Ryladine> Please follow the instructions voxelhead is about to give,
#3771 [22:26] <Ryladine> ?? win/dxdiag
#3772 [22:26] <Guest68867> k thanks
#3773 [22:26] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3774 [22:26] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3775 [22:26] <Guest68867> lol ill try
#3776 [22:27] <Ryladine> If you have any problems just ask.
#3777 [22:27] <Guest68867> wait whats the win key?
#3778 [22:27] <Guest68867> oh
#3779 [22:27] <Guest68867> is it the windows key
#3780 [22:27] <Ryladine> The flag
#3781 [22:27] <Ryladine> Yes
#3782 [22:27] <Guest68867> lol thanks
#3783 [22:27] <Ryladine> The one that opens your start menu.
#3784 [22:28] <Guest68867> its saving
#3785 [22:28] <Guest68867> thanks so mch btw
#3786 [22:28] <Ryladine> np, its what I'm here fore.
#3787 [22:28] <Ryladine> for*
#3788 [22:28] <Guest68867> hwo do yall get payed for this if we dont pay money?
#3789 [22:29] <Ryladine> We don't.
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#3791 [22:29] <Guest68867> oh im sorry
#3792 [22:29] <Ryladine> Everyone in this channel is a vollunteer.
#3793 [22:29] <guest-0-70755> hy there
#3794 [22:29] <Ryladine> Guest's Mib's as well as anyone else with a generic program generated nickname! Please use the /nick YOURNICKNAMEHERE command to set a name that we can all type/remember more easilly, it will help not only the volunteer's to identify you, but also get you faster responses.
#3795 [22:29] <v1p3rX> thats better :)
#3796 [22:30] <Ryladine> Thank you.
#3797 [22:30] <Guest68867> wait how do i open the file
#3798 [22:30] <Ryladine> Guest: what did it save it as?
#3799 [22:30] <Ryladine> It should have been saved as a .txt
#3800 [22:30] <Guest68867> the name u gave me to type in to bar
#3801 [22:30] <Ryladine> Hm? I did not give you a name to type into the bar lol
#3802 [22:31] <Guest68867> i mean the win r bar thing
#3803 [22:31] <Ryladine> oh dxdiag
#3804 [22:31] <Guest68867> on first step
#3805 [22:31] <Guest68867> yeah lol
#3806 [22:31] <Guest68867> how do i open it up
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#3808 [22:31] <Ryladine> How do you open it? Did you save it?
#3809 [22:31] <Guest68867> yes sir
#3810 [22:32] <Ryladine> Guest68867: It should have been saved as a .txt with either the name dxdiag or whatever you told it to save as.
#3811 [22:32] <Guest68867> oh wait i see it but its all big numbers and letters and confusing lol
#3812 [22:33] <Guest68867> do i copy that?
#3813 [22:33] <Ryladine> Yes, copy and paste it to pastebin
#3814 [22:33] <Ryladine> Yes
#3815 [22:33] <Ryladine> ?? pastebin
#3816 [22:33] <Guest68867> wow lol
#3817 [22:33] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#3818 [22:34] <Guest68867> k now what
#3819 [22:34] <Ryladine> Paste the url here
#3820 [22:34] <v1p3rX> hy there,, any1 knows sistem requirements for this game? O.o
#3821 [22:34] <Guest68867> http://pastebin.com/RanKZewR
#3822 [22:35] <Guest68867> there u go
#3823 [22:35] <Guest68867> now u gonna fix me problems?
#3824 [22:35] <Guest68867> if so thanks if not sad face
#3825 [22:35] <almostroot> ??> v1p3rX requirements/lessrude
#3826 [22:35] <VoxelHead> v1p3rX: (requirements/lessrude) 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#3827 [22:35] <VoxelHead> v1p3rX: (requirements/lessrude) A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
#3828 [22:35] <Ryladine> Ahh
#3829 [22:35] <Guest68867> what is it man
#3830 [22:35] <Ryladine> Nothing XD
#3831 [22:35] <Guest68867> lol
#3832 [22:36] <Guest68867> can u fix it?
#3833 [22:36] <Ryladine> Well
#3834 [22:36] <Ryladine> I'm going to get your drivers for you so you can try that
#3835 [22:36] <v1p3rX> i <3 minecraft but its kinda stuttering, and i tried everything around, my specs are
#3836 [22:36] <Guest68867> what happened to my minecraft anyway?
#3837 [22:36] <Ryladine> Guest: But your RAM is a bit low to be playing minecraft
#3838 [22:36] <Ryladine> Guest: 1.8 updated the version of openGL it was using
#3839 [22:36] <Guest68867> well ive been playing for bout a year
#3840 [22:36] <Ryladine> Guest: need to update drivers to keep up
#3841 [22:37] <almostroot> Guest68867: Download and install these drivers: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#3842 [22:37] <v1p3rX> 4 gigs ram, amd dual corre 4000+, 9500gt 1gb ddr2, 1 tb hard drive
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#3845 [22:38] <Guest68867> oh my goodness its downloading is it gonna take forever?
#3846 [22:38] <Guest68867> and once its done will i be able to play again?
#3847 [22:38] <Ryladine> FFF!
#3848 [22:38] <Ryladine> You got it faster than me again almost!
#3849 [22:38] <almostroot> Guest68867: Maybe.
#3850 [22:38] <Ryladine> Lol
#3851 [22:38] <almostroot> Ryladine: And I'm horribly distracted. ;P
#3852 [22:39] <Guest68867> lol competitive muvh
#3853 [22:39] * Ryladine sighs and walks off to lick voxelhead
#3853 [22:39] <Guest68867> lol
#3854 [22:39] * Ryladine licks voxelhead
#3854 [22:39] <almostroot> Ryladine: Ewwwwww. You have no idea where that has been.
#3855 [22:39] <Ryladine> Lol
#3856 [22:39] <Ryladine> Voxelhead where have you been
#3857 [22:39] <almostroot> Ryladine: DopeGhoti left or turned off chatterbot mode.
#3858 [22:40] <Ryladine> Yeah XD
#3859 [22:40] <v1p3rX> is optifine actualy worth it?
#3860 [22:41] <v1p3rX> i get no fps increase with it, im keeping at 25 fps, with my specs its not suppose to
#3861 [22:41] <Guest68867> lol my computer just got a virus fixed today
#3862 [22:42] <v1p3rX> also, fresh formated pc, better specs on xp than on win7 :o (dual boot sistem)
#3863 [22:42] <Guest68867> ugh im so tired and need to go to bed chemistry test manana
#3864 [22:43] <Guest68867> oh me goodness me no gusta this long wait lol so impacient
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#3867 [22:44] <Guest68867> ugh
#3868 [22:44] <v1p3rX> i dont even get any help here, so youre better than me :p
#3869 [22:44] <Guest68867> do yall even play minecraft?
#3870 [22:44] <v1p3rX> <3 minecraft
#3871 [22:45] <Guest68867> its coo if u want an awesome randomn seed try seven sevens i did it yesterday its amazing
#3872 [22:45] <v1p3rX> i just want my game lag free atm :p
#3873 [22:46] <Guest68867> oh gots to restart computer now if i dont come back thank u so much for help guys
#3874 [22:46] <hmw> Tectonicus keeps claiming that "Settings changed" and starts all over with rendering. A web search didn't bring up anything interesting. Any ideas? (Ubuntu)
#3875 [22:46] <v1p3rX> i played awsomely until 1.8.1 came .-.
#3876 [22:46] <v1p3rX> optifine wont help either .-.
#3877 [22:47] <Ryladine> Yay! I'm in ubuntu for the first time hmw :)
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#3879 [22:47] <v1p3rX> ubuntu is kinda messy at first but its a great o.s
#3880 [22:47] <Triggerdusk> hey guys i need some help getting to my router page to portforward
#3881 [22:48] <Ryladine> Triggerdusk: portforward.com
#3882 [22:48] <hmw> Try portforward.com
#3883 [22:48] <v1p3rX> i need a few hints on performance
#3884 [22:48] <Triggerdusk> no i can do it myself i dont need that crappy site
#3885 [22:48] <v1p3rX> cuz i cant play anymore after 1.8.1
#3886 [22:48] <hmw> Ubuntu is nice, many things running "out of the box", but it's somewhat bloated. Sad thing is, they try to make it self-administering, which is a contradiction in itself for a Linux system... those are not really made to be like Windows
#3887 [22:49] <hmw> Triggerdusk: If you can do it yourself, why are you asking here, then?
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#3889 [22:49] <Ryladine> :(
#3890 [22:49] <Triggerdusk> becuase i cant rember what to put in the address bar to get to my router
#3891 [22:50] <Ryladine> I installed ubuntu but I didn't set the superuser pass as far as I know and now I can't use it
#3892 [22:50] <Triggerdusk> once i have that ill bookmark it so i dont have to ask again
#3893 [22:50] <v1p3rX> hey trigger check your ip here
#3894 [22:50] <hmw> Triggerdusk: probably 192.168.1.1 (or ..0.1)
#3895 [22:50] <v1p3rX> the ip is what u need
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#3897 [22:50] <Triggerdusk> !check triggerdusk
#3898 [22:50] <v1p3rX> http://www.whatismyip.com
#3899 [22:50] <clone1018> Alright, well this is a new one, I can't pick up any items, none.
#3900 [22:50] <Triggerdusk> o.o
#3901 [22:51] <clone1018> http://puu.sh/6dkD
#3902 [22:51] <hmw> clone1018: If you can pick up other items (test it by dropping something somewhere "safe" - not near water), it might be just another bug.
#3903 [22:52] <clone1018> I can't pick up any item, anywhere, in smp or singleplayer
#3904 [22:52] <clone1018> I've deleted .minecraft
#3905 [22:52] <hmw> triggerdusk apparently triggered a brain seizure in his router lol
#3906 [22:52] <Ryladine> lol
#3907 [22:52] <v1p3rX> well, it seems no one can help me on performance issues...
#3908 [22:52] <v1p3rX> lol
#3909 [22:53] <clone1018> http://puu.sh/6dkU
#3910 [22:53] <hmw> v1p3rX: I had something similar in 1.4 or so... it went by... no idea what causes all those weird bugs.. guess Notch.
#3911 [22:54] <hmw> clone1018: try the usual: Reboot PC, redownload the game (you apparently tried that already), deinstalling+redownloading+reinstalling Java, perhaps even try reinstalling GPU drivers. What OS do you have? 32/64bit? Any custom software (like special keyboard macro tools)?
#3912 [22:54] <hmw> clone1018: modded your game?
#3913 [22:54] <clone1018> I've reformatted my os.
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#3915 [22:54] <v1p3rX> well, my performance was pretty steady till now, used optifine just for a little performance boost, went from 30 to 50 fps, now im stuck at 25
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#3917 [22:54] <clone1018> I think it stopped working as soon as I upgraded to 1.8
#3918 [22:54] <hmw> v1p3rX: same as I told clone1018
#3919 [22:54] <cj> hey guys thanks so much for helping me
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#3921 [22:55] <Guest33480> actually it might not have been yall
#3922 [22:55] <Triggerdusk> what do the ports need to be again?
#3923 [22:55] <Guest33480> but someone helped me and it fixed my entire problem
#3924 [22:55] <hmw> Triggerdusk: look it up in your server.properties
#3925 [22:55] <Triggerdusk> 55652?
#3926 [22:55] <Guest33480> ryaldine
#3927 [22:55] <Guest33480> thanks so much
#3928 [22:56] <Guest33480> ya that might have been me trigger
#3929 [22:56] <Triggerdusk> what do you mean?
#3930 [22:56] <v1p3rX> overclocked my graphics, tweaked agp-pci, used a custom loader, used gam booster, set javaw to high, and a bunch of other crap :p
#3931 [22:56] <Guest33480> my minecraft is up and fully operational after 3 weeks of black screens
#3932 [22:57] <clone1018> I'm not using anything special, no mods, no special keybinds, GPU drivers are installed and check out fine, Windows 7 x64
#3933 [22:57] <Guest33480> trigger i was a different guest a while ago and i just came back to say thanks
#3934 [22:57] <clone1018> I've done everything that I can think of and I've been playing this game for years now and regularly support people with it
#3935 [22:57] <hmw> how can I google a problem with Tectonicus (map generator) - it appears to go into an endless loop - I can't find anything related...
#3936 [22:57] <v1p3rX> same here, issues speacialy on win7 64
#3937 [22:57] <Guest33480> voxelhead
#3938 [22:58] <clone1018> v1p3rX: except everything works for me, I just can't pick up items
#3939 [22:58] <hmw> clone1018: I heard people having success with deinstalling 64bit java and using 32bit instead on W7. Perhaps that might do the trick?
#3940 [22:58] <Guest33480> if u see ryladine or talk to him please tell hime thanks
#3941 [22:58] <hmw> clone1018: Check your keyboard bindings ingame
#3942 [22:58] <v1p3rX> did that also :1
#3943 [22:58] <clone1018> As I said, they're default
#3944 [22:58] <hmw> hmm
#3945 [22:59] <v1p3rX> game works fine, just lags a lot after update, notch is a bad coder :p
#3946 [22:59] <hmw> clone1018: weird... Try to find some clever search terms for a web search...
#3947 [22:59] <Guest33480> i might log on later to say thanks again because i am very much apreciative to ryladine so thank yall so much and i wish yall a great minecraft day
#3948 [22:59] <hmw> v1p3rX: no, Notch isn't a bad coder. Notch is a synonyme for "bad coder"
#3949 [22:59] <clone1018> oh
#3950 [22:59] <clone1018> it works in singleplayer now...
#3951 [22:59] <clone1018> wat.
#3952 [23:00] <clone1018> I guess I'll delete my player data on the server
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#3954 [23:00] <v1p3rX> haha lol
#3955 [23:02] <v1p3rX> hmw: im thinkin the new dinamic lights might have increased game requirements, even so, not enough to make me lag like hell on my specs
#3956 [23:02] <v1p3rX> hmw: and turning off advanced opengl chops me to 2 fps... lmao
#3957 [23:02] <hmw> half of the updates made it harder to play for me...
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#3959 [23:02] <v1p3rX> hmw: true
#3960 [23:03] <hmw> so, what is this optimine?
#3961 [23:03] <v1p3rX> ill post a link, helps a lot, but
#3962 [23:03] <v1p3rX> version for 1.8.1 is only 95% complete yet
#3963 [23:04] <hmw> reading about it... i wanna know, what it actually does
#3964 [23:05] <v1p3rX> adds a whole off grafical options u can mess with, increases fps, adds fog personalisation, has all the funcions of mcpatcher, a lot a stuff
#3965 [23:05] <hmw> hmm... most of the things, I just read, will only help, if your GPU is too weak. In my case, it's the CPU and the RAM
#3966 [23:06] <v1p3rX> hmw: would u mind telling ur sistem specs if thats ok?
#3967 [23:07] <hmw> P4 2GB WinXP, Intel Core Duo 3GB WinXP
#3968 [23:07] <hmw> some ATI GPUs
#3969 [23:07] <v1p3rX> and u can play it without lag?
#3970 [23:07] <hmw> (all my PCs are made from scrap material, and I normally don't care about graphic performance)
#3971 [23:07] <hmw> Pretty much... of course at the lowest settings
#3972 [23:08] <v1p3rX> nice
#3973 [23:08] <hmw> the P4 has about 20 FPS
#3974 [23:08] <hmw> 25
#3975 [23:09] <v1p3rX> mine is lagging on a amd dual core 64bit 4000+, 4 gigs ram, 1gb ddr2 geforce 9500gt, win xp and 7
#3976 [23:09] <hmw> Well... I actually never play Single Player... that would strain the CPU too much... but when leaving all the physics etc to a server, the game runs nicely on that P4
#3977 [23:10] <hmw> (I consider my PC zoo a "pseudo-cluster" lol)
#3978 [23:10] <v1p3rX> hmmm, so.. what if i host my own server on 2 gigs ram, and play the game on the other 2, will that help?
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#3980 [23:10] <hmw> you shouldn't have the server run on a machine, that is used for actual playing the game
#3981 [23:10] <Mask> Is there something going on with the mojang site?
#3982 [23:10] <hmw> !isdown
#3983 [23:10] <GreyBot> hmw: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#3984 [23:11] <Mask> Well..
#3985 [23:11] <v1p3rX> well, i have a p4 2800 1.5 gigs ram laying around i could use for hosting :)
#3986 [23:11] <hmw> that should do, v1p3rX
#3987 [23:11] <Mask> I'm having a lot of trouble buying Minecraft.
#3988 [23:11] <v1p3rX> hmw: nice, thanks man, i can host it through hamachi right?
#3989 [23:11] <Mask> Tried using my visa card and paypal, but it just isn't going through.
#3990 [23:12] <hmw> v1p3rX: if you really need to... I'd prefer a normal port-forward. If you are playing allone, you won't need either, since you are on the same physical net segment.
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#3992 [23:12] <v1p3rX> i used to host a 1.7.3 server so it should be the same
#3993 [23:13] <v1p3rX> so.. host it and just connect to my own ip O.o
#3994 [23:13] <Mask> Visa card issue was not recieving a text. Paypal just wasn't processing.
#3995 [23:13] <Mask> Any of you had any similar problems?
#3996 [23:13] <hmw> v1p3rX: I'd rather connect directly to the LAN-IP of your server, instead of going through your router/VPN
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#3998 [23:13] <v1p3rX> thats the part where i suck at computers :D
#3999 [23:14] <Sparkky> Hey does anybody know how to get a copy of 1.7.3 minecraft_server.jar ? I corrupted mine and I can't find it anywhere
#4000 [23:14] <hmw> Mask: Similar problems are ocurring. No Idea, how to tackle it, though.
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#4002 [23:14] <hmw> Sparkky: you won't find it probably. All answers you will get in forums/irc/etc will tell you about DCMA
#4003 [23:14] <Sparkky> DCMA?
#4004 [23:15] <v1p3rX> hmw: but the rest of it i can learn for myself, ill try that out to get a performance gain :)
#4005 [23:15] <nilesr|iPod> dmca
#4006 [23:15] <hmw> that copyright infringement thing
#4007 [23:15] <nilesr|iPod> ive heard of that
#4008 [23:15] <nilesr|iPod> oh right
#4009 [23:15] <v1p3rX> hmw: ty
#4010 [23:15] <Sparkky> oh, well I know there is a rollback app for the client version
#4011 [23:15] <nilesr|iPod> ha to do with jailbreaking iphones
#4012 [23:15] <nilesr|iPod> had*
#4013 [23:15] <Sparkky> I figured there might be something for the server
#4014 [23:16] <Sparkky> and since when has IRC been all goody goody :P IRC was the birthplace of questionable internet dealings :P
#4015 [23:16] <hmw> Sparkky: why not upgrade?
#4016 [23:16] <Sparkky> The forge mod doesn't work with 1.8 yet
#4017 [23:16] <hmw> ic
#4018 [23:17] <Sparkky> so I can't use BuildingCraft or Industrial mod :P
#4019 [23:17] <Sparkky> which are the bee's knees
#4020 [23:20] <hmw> Mojang should provide an archive of old version...
#4021 [23:20] <Sparkky> They really should, this is incredibly frustrating
#4022 [23:20] <hmw> Sparkky: did you get my PM?
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#4026 [23:26] <pynchon> any ideas on how to get 1.9 to not suck so much cpu?
#4027 [23:26] <pynchon> 1.8 was a bit more too
#4028 [23:26] <Ryladine> Pynchon: There is no support for the pre-release here
#4029 [23:26] <pynchon> any ideas on how to get 1.8 to not suck so much cpu?
#4030 [23:26] <Ryladine> I can answer that it is likely the new lighting system though.
#4031 [23:26] <pynchon> Ryladine: ^
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#4033 [23:27] <Gazionetadmin> hey
#4034 [23:27] <Ryladine> Mc doesn't pull that much cpu, but you could try reducing the view distance, reducing your FOV, and disabling openGL (I think you can do the last can't remember...
#4035 [23:27] <Gazionetadmin> minecraft 1.9 lags like no tommorow
#4036 [23:28] <Ryladine> There is no support for the pre-release here.
#4037 [23:29] <Ryladine> Anyone need help with Mc 1.8?
#4038 [23:30] <Gazionetadmin> do you know whats fun killing the villages
#4039 [23:30] <Ryladine> What do you mean?>
#4040 [23:33] <JohnEBH> I'll fix that sentence.
#4041 [23:33] <JohnEBH> do you know whats fun? killing the villages!
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#4043 [23:33] <Phatality> Anyone in here?
#4044 [23:34] <JohnEBH> Punctuation... The difference between "Let's eat, grandma!" and "Let's eat grandma!"
#4045 [23:34] <JohnEBH> Phatality- Quite possibly.
#4046 [23:34] <Phatality> I've never been in here before, so I do apologize for my ignorance on the game and this chat.
#4047 [23:35] <Phatality> I was wondering if anyone else was having trouble getting onto multiplayer servers on minecraft c lassic?
#4048 [23:35] <JohnEBH> Phatality- lol. don't worry about it. That was just a reply to another user
#4049 [23:35] <JohnEBH> Phatality- I'll check that out right now...
#4050 [23:35] <Phatality> Thank you.
#4051 [23:36] <JohnEBH> I seem to be connecting fine, a specific server you want me to try?
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#4053 [23:36] <Phatality> No, I've tried all of them. I didn't know if it was my side or server side.
#4054 [23:37] <JohnEBH> Check your firewall, antivirus settings? A modem/router restart? A computer restart?
#4055 [23:37] <Phatality> Java begins loading, and then it says "MineCraft switching applet"
#4056 [23:37] <JohnEBH> Hmmm, Reinstall java?
#4057 [23:38] <Phatality> Yeah, I suppose I could try. One moment.
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#4059 [23:38] <JohnEBH> ??> Phatality win/javara
#4060 [23:38] <VoxelHead> Phatality: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#4061 [23:39] <VoxelHead> Phatality: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#4062 [23:39] <JohnEBH> ^ That may also help with uninstalling java.
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#4064 [23:44] <Phatality> Thanks, that's a decent tool.
#4065 [23:44] <Phatality> It must not be Java's fault.
#4066 [23:44] <JohnEBH> Has it worked before?
#4067 [23:45] <Phatality> Yes, just yesterday.
#4068 [23:45] <Phatality> Checking my firewall, although I don't see why it would be acting up now.
#4069 [23:46] <JohnEBH> Hmmm odd... Any changes maded to your computer? Updates, errors?
#4070 [23:48] <Phatality> Haha. Well, it's been bluescreening on me lately, but I updated my cards and drivers and it's been acting okay since then.
#4071 [23:48] <Phatality> So yes, both
#4072 [23:48] <Phatality> That was... a week ago, though
#4073 [23:49] <JohnEBH> Hmmmm I'm stumped, is your only interest in classic?
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#4076 [23:54] <Phatality> For now, yeah. Just wanted to pass some time by.
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