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#3 [00:03] <lemon-rev> Phatality the game working for you yet ?
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#6 [00:03] <Phatality> Nah
#7 [00:03] <Phatality> I gave up on it
#8 [00:03] <lemon-rev> Phatality have you tryed deleteding the bin folder
#9 [00:03] <lemon-rev> lol
#10 [00:03] <lemon-rev> oh
#11 [00:04] <Phatality> Bin folder?
#12 [00:04] <lemon-rev> ??> Phatality win/reinst
#13 [00:04] <VoxelHead> Phatality: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#14 [00:04] <VoxelHead> Phatality: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#15 [00:04] <lemon-rev> ^^^^^^^
#16 [00:05] <Phatality> There's nothing in there
#17 [00:05] <Phatality> Not even a saves directory
#18 [00:05] <lemon-rev> hm
#19 [00:05] <lemon-rev> ok, wired as hell
#20 [00:05] <lemon-rev> Phatality what about login to minecraft.net and click in broswer ?
#21 [00:11] <Phatality> that's how I do it
#22 [00:11] <lemon-rev> ?
#23 [00:11] <Phatality> That's how I play every time
#24 [00:12] <lemon-rev> Phatality does it work ?
#25 [00:12] <Phatality> I log in to the website and play it in the browser
#26 [00:12] <Phatality> It has in the past
#27 [00:12] <Phatality> I don't know why it isn't now
#28 [00:12] <lemon-rev> Phatality because you dont have any files, thats why im trying to get your computer to redownload those files
#29 [00:13] <Gazionetadmin> 09.28 14:11:05 ERROR Failed to bind to address 121.214.10.245:25465: [Errno 1004
#30 [00:13] <Gazionetadmin> 9] The requested address is not valid in its context
#31 [00:13] <Gazionetadmin> whats
#32 [00:13] <Gazionetadmin> so what does it mean
#33 [00:13] <lemon-rev> ? Gazionetadmin is that like for smp ?
#34 [00:14] <Gazionetadmin> nah multicraft
#35 [00:14] <Gazionetadmin> oh wait lol
#36 [00:14] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin does it happen on all servers ?
#37 [00:14] <Phatality> Should I try logging out an then back in?
#38 [00:14] <lemon-rev> Phatality on broswer yes if you can and tell me what you see if anything at all ?
#39 [00:15] <Phatality> Okay
#40 [00:16] <Gazionetadmin> nah im trying to start a multicraft server
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#42 [00:16] <Phatality> No, it's still doing the same thing
#43 [00:16] <mib_yd30d1> wait what is this?
#44 [00:16] <Phatality> Why would it have deleted the files if I had any, though?
#45 [00:16] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin how much ram you got on your computer ?
#46 [00:16] <Gazionetadmin> 2gb
#47 [00:17] <Gazionetadmin> ill have 4gb soon
#48 [00:17] <mib_yd30d1> i need minecraft help?
#49 [00:17] <lemon-rev> Phatality honistly unless it didnt quite download the files in the first place i really dont know but if you went to that directory and found no saves even then i cant tell what happend
#50 [00:18] <lemon-rev> mib_yd30d1 plese rename your self by /nick YOURNAME
#51 [00:18] <Phatality> It's weird because I played just yesterday
#52 [00:18] <lemon-rev> Phatality thats what im trying to get at, it should be working
#53 [00:18] <Wolf> hello?
#54 [00:18] <Wolf> oh ok im wolf now
#55 [00:18] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin DO NOT PM in here please
#56 [00:18] <Wolf> can someone help me?
#57 [00:18] <lemon-rev> np wolf
#58 [00:18] <Phatality> Oh well. I guess I'll settle for single player
#59 [00:18] <Gazionetadmin> sorry :(
#60 [00:18] <Guest54472> wtf
#61 [00:19] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin whats up
#62 [00:19] <Gazionetadmin> its so that bot does not kick me when i copy and paste
#63 [00:19] <lemon-rev> wolf whats your trouble
#64 [00:19] <Guest54472> i cant get the program to run
#65 [00:19] <Phatality> Nah, single won't work either
#66 [00:19] <Gazionetadmin> the error it says
#67 [00:19] <Guest54472> (im wolf)
#68 [00:19] <lemon-rev> hm
#69 [00:19] <Guest54472> the game freezes while loading
#70 [00:19] <Guest54472> and i get like the background image and nothing else
#71 [00:19] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin i understadn that paste but you need to ask before doing so, and i dont know if you just wanted to paste the same error or not
#72 [00:19] <lemon-rev> Guest54472 ok then
#73 [00:20] <Gazionetadmin> so can i pm you
#74 [00:20] <Guest54472> one day it just stopped working mid game
#75 [00:20] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin whats the intention and what is it your trying to give me ?
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#77 [00:20] <Gazionetadmin> the error
#78 [00:20] <lemon-rev> Guest54472 you could have had a powers surge if thats how you spell it, try doing this please
#79 [00:20] <lemon-rev> ??> Guest54472 win/reinst
#80 [00:20] <VoxelHead> Guest54472: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#81 [00:21] <VoxelHead> Guest54472: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#82 [00:21] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin the error i dont need really if its to do wiht your muliplayer
#83 [00:21] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin does single player work ok ?
#84 [00:21] <Gazionetadmin> yeah
#85 [00:21] <Guest54472> ok thanks ill try that
#86 [00:21] <Gazionetadmin> its nothing to do with that
#87 [00:22] <Gazionetadmin> it said failed to bind to adress
#88 [00:22] <Gazionetadmin> *address
#89 [00:22] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin coudl you give that a try for me now just for a bit, if it doesnt crash then it has to be the server side of things, and i cant help it oculd be a plug in the user is useing
#90 [00:22] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin then the failier is the the server isnt running then
#91 [00:22] <Gazionetadmin> no im trying to run my own multicraft
#92 [00:22] <lemon-rev> h,,
#93 [00:22] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin have you port forwareded
#94 [00:23] <lemon-rev> 25565 < port
#95 [00:23] <Gazionetadmin> yeah i change the port
#96 [00:23] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin type !check
#97 [00:23] <Gazionetadmin> !check
#98 [00:23] <lemon-rev> ok
#99 [00:24] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin the server your running have you got the latest version from minecraft.net ?
#100 [00:24] <Gazionetadmin> nah should i get
#101 [00:24] <Gazionetadmin> it?
#102 [00:24] <lemon-rev> yea
#103 [00:24] <lemon-rev> every update of mc you will need to update your server file as well
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#105 [00:29] <Gazionetadmin> ok
#106 [00:30] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin ok run the new server file and then re try !check
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#108 [00:30] <Gazionetadmin> !check
#109 [00:30] <Wolf> im back
#110 [00:30] <Gazionetadmin> what
#111 [00:30] <lemon-rev> hm
#112 [00:30] <Gazionetadmin> i added the 1.9
#113 [00:30] <Wolf> whoever just helped me, thank you so much it worked like magic
#114 [00:30] <lemon-rev> oh
#115 [00:30] <Wolf> but
#116 [00:30] <Wolf> i need help again -.-
#117 [00:31] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin the server file will have to be 1.9 as well from off that minecraft fourm not off minecraft.net
#118 [00:31] <lemon-rev> wolf i still dont know whats up ?
#119 [00:31] <Guest86350> no i got it working
#120 [00:31] <Gazionetadmin> i did that
#121 [00:31] <Guest86350> but now its just lagging so bad i cant play
#122 [00:31] <Gazionetadmin> whats the link for its config?
#123 [00:31] <Guest86350> im sure its an easy fix?
#124 [00:32] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin not sure, shoud be in the server directory or where the server file is, if its run correctly
#125 [00:32] <lemon-rev> Guest86350 are you talking about muliplayer ?
#126 [00:32] <Gazionetadmin> do you know what Multicraft even is?
#127 [00:32] <Gazionetadmin> im trying
#128 [00:32] <Guest86350> no single player
#129 [00:32] <Gazionetadmin> to run multicraft server
#130 [00:33] <Gazionetadmin> goto to this link http://gazionetwork.dyndns.org/panel
#131 [00:33] <Gazionetadmin> thats for my MultiCraft
#132 [00:33] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin if your running minecraft 1.9 then you need 1.9 server to run that as to connect to the exact server ie version number of the game to run it
#133 [00:33] <Gazionetadmin> i have 1.9
#134 [00:34] <lemon-rev> is the game 1.9 ?
#135 [00:34] <Gazionetadmin> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre/minecraft_server.jar
#136 [00:34] <Gazionetadmin> got it from here
#137 [00:34] <lemon-rev> hm
#138 [00:35] <Gazionetadmin> could you help me over teamviewer if it possible?
#139 [00:35] <lemon-rev> so is it running properly does it say anything different when you have the server box up and running ?
#140 [00:36] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin if your running windows 7 or vista i cant help mostly im still on xp and those other two versions are bloated shit were and i dont know that much about moving around that os
#141 [00:36] <Gazionetadmin> im on xp
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#143 [00:36] <Gazionetadmin> pro'
#144 [00:36] <lemon-rev> ok then
#145 [00:36] <Gazionetadmin> legit copy
#146 [00:36] <Guest86350> ok heres my problem: i can walk and look around, but if i do both at the same time it lags severely
#147 [00:36] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin one of the few
#148 [00:36] <Gazionetadmin> xD
#149 [00:36] <Gazionetadmin> yeah i hate people when they pirate copy things
#150 [00:37] <lemon-rev> Guest86350 theres lagging trouble with 1.8 and 1.9 but if your in a server and its lagging then its your internet connection
#151 [00:37] <Guest86350> im in single player. might i try downloading the game?
#152 [00:37] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin well i would like to get a hold of a ligit copy my self but since you cant buy them anymore
#153 [00:37] <Guest86350> and is there any solution/partial solution?
#154 [00:37] <lemon-rev> Guest86350 more ram ?
#155 [00:37] <Gazionetadmin> so can you help me over teamviewer?
#156 [00:37] <callum> ive just baught the game and removed loads of files to clear my c drive im on windows 7 with a pretty decent desktop but soon as i start playing minecraft its completley unplayable it lags and theres just random blocks i cant get a refund either HELP
#157 [00:37] <lemon-rev> Guest86350 windows / mac ?
#158 [00:37] <Gazionetadmin> im running the deamon
#159 [00:38] <Guest86350> i have 2.75, the max for windows xp 32 bit
#160 [00:38] <Gazionetadmin> thats where the error is
#161 [00:38] <lemon-rev> callum random blocks are what minecraft is, what is exeactly your trouble
#162 [00:38] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin i can but ill see if i can get rid of these two first with there troubles
#163 [00:38] <lemon-rev> ??> Guest86350 win/dxdiag
#164 [00:38] <Gazionetadmin> ok
#165 [00:38] <VoxelHead> Guest86350: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#166 [00:38] <VoxelHead> Guest86350: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#167 [00:39] <Gazionetadmin> i can kinda help im good at computers
#168 [00:39] <callum> im walking through nothing but blue screen and the odd blocks in the distance its bascially extremely slow and isnt loading anything
#169 [00:39] <Gazionetadmin> oh goto
#170 [00:39] <Gazionetadmin> mycomputer
#171 [00:39] <Gazionetadmin> right click
#172 [00:39] <Guest86350> irc channel?
#173 [00:39] <lemon-rev> callum the world loads up slowly you will have to give it some time, if you have spawned in an ocian then delete the world and start a new one
#174 [00:39] <Gazionetadmin> also are all your drivers updated
#175 [00:39] <lemon-rev> irc is what your basicly chatting in now
#176 [00:40] <Gazionetadmin> that could be the problem with there not
#177 [00:40] <Guest86350> oh ok thank you again
#178 [00:40] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin trouble is most of the people come in here dont know that much about drivers and stuff we try to keep that to a min if possible
#179 [00:40] <Gazionetadmin> so rightclick then goto propites on mycomputer
#180 [00:40] <callum> what block by minute that cannot be right?
#181 [00:40] <Gazionetadmin> then goto advance then change how much ram it uses
#182 [00:41] <lemon-rev> callum as i just said either delete the world or find an island your happy with and start playing
#183 [00:41] <Gazionetadmin> *advanced
#184 [00:41] <callum> i have tried that
#185 [00:41] <lemon-rev> and ?
#186 [00:42] <callum> thats not the problem
#187 [00:42] <callum> so im on porperties of computer now what?
#188 [00:42] <callum> *properties
#189 [00:43] <Gazionetadmin> look for advanced settings
#190 [00:43] <Gazionetadmin> tab
#191 [00:43] <Gazionetadmin> you can change the ram settings
#192 [00:44] <Gazionetadmin> then click preformence
#193 [00:44] <callum> there is no advance tab its windows 7
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#195 [00:45] <Gazionetadmin> yeah i can't help you there
#196 [00:45] <Gazionetadmin> hey lemon
#197 [00:46] <lemon-rev> yes
#198 [00:46] <Guest86350> i did all that and pasted into pastebin, but what link are you talking about>?
#199 [00:46] <Gazionetadmin> can i pm you now?
#200 [00:46] <callum> im on performance
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#202 [00:46] <Gazionetadmin> click it
#203 [00:46] <callum> ok
#204 [00:46] <Gazionetadmin> then change the allowed ram
#205 [00:46] <lemon-rev> Guest86350 at the top of the page wherer the http addtress is can you copy that link and paste it in here
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#207 [00:47] <Guest86350> pardon my ignorance but its just pastebin.com
#208 [00:47] <lemon-rev> ?? pastebin
#209 [00:47] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#210 [00:47] <callum> it says total paging file size for al ldrives is 1710mb
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#212 [00:48] <Guest86350> http://pastebin.com/Bh0C4MeV
#213 [00:50] <lemon-rev> Guest86350 and the trouble is, everything looks ok from here
#214 [00:50] <lemon-rev> >?
#215 [00:50] <Guest86350> severe lagging
#216 [00:50] <Guest86350> i cant walk and turn at the same time without having to wait at least 20 seconds for a lag
#217 [00:51] <Guest86350> thats just the most severe lag, it lags constantly
#218 [00:51] <lemon-rev> Guest86350 when you start a new world or just load up for the first time it will take some time to load everything up, you can press esc
#219 [00:51] <lemon-rev> and bring the menu up under video theres distance click that to either normal or near / and then everything should be ok first off
#220 [00:51] <Guest86350> right, and im hoping its just lagging because its still loading, but i also loaded an old world
#221 [00:52] <lemon-rev> Guest86350 have you played anything else on that pc before ?
#222 [00:52] <Guest86350> oh and my render distance is on normal. it was on far, but changing it didnt make a difference
#223 [00:52] <Guest86350> a lot, honestly
#224 [00:52] <Guest86350> i have numerous rts games installed on my pc
#225 [00:53] <lemon-rev> Guest86350 then change distance to near and also check ballence to say ballanced as well in stead of being on graphical
#226 [00:53] <lemon-rev> i think the setting is
#227 [00:53] <Guest86350> right i have that set
#228 [00:53] <lemon-rev> give that a shot ?
#229 [00:54] <Guest86350> ok ill try with the short render distance and let you know
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#231 [00:54] <Universezero> Hey. Any redstone experts here?
#232 [00:55] <Universezero> I need to power all the torches in a 5x5 grid at once, wired to a single switch.
#233 [00:55] <Guest86350> still lagging
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#235 [00:55] <lemon-rev> Guest86350 reboot, try again, could be java. if it hasnt been updated yet
#236 [00:55] <Gazionetadmin> damn power
#237 [00:56] <Gazionetadmin> we have a thunderstorm
#238 [00:56] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin you got a video recorder ?
#239 [00:56] <Gazionetadmin> but i belive its past now
#240 [00:56] <Guest86350> java is updated. unless a new version came out within the past week
#241 [00:56] <Gazionetadmin> no i don't
#242 [00:56] <lemon-rev> dammit
#243 [00:56] <Guest86350> but ill reboot now
#244 [00:56] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin do you have a camra with video setting
#245 [00:56] <Gazionetadmin> yeah but it don't work
#246 [00:56] <lemon-rev> :(
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#248 [01:02] <Universezero> Anyone?
#249 [01:08] * mib_kob08v [mib_kob08v@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#250 [01:09] <mib_kob08v> umm hello
#251 [01:09] <Ryladine> Hello
#252 [01:09] <Ryladine> Sorry I was away.
#253 [01:10] <mib_kob08v> ok i have a problem with my minecaft game
#254 [01:10] <Ryladine> What are your problems? Mib, Universezero?
#255 [01:10] <Ryladine> Explain?
#256 [01:10] <mib_kob08v> HELP!!! i have tried EVERYTHING D:< and i still get suck at the mojang screen i completely deleted anything related to minecraft on my computer like the .minecraft folder and such i reinstalled my java and updated it i cant even play it in my browser. every time i run it, minecraft stops at the mojang screen and then becomes unresponsive im using windows xp i
#257 [01:10] <mib_kob08v> k thats it
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#259 [01:10] <Ryladine> Current version of java?
#260 [01:11] <mib_kob08v> version 6 update 27
#261 [01:11] <Ryladine> Mmm
#262 [01:11] <Ryladine> Any error files generated?
#263 [01:12] <mib_kob08v> nope it just becomes unresponsive and i have to force end the porgram
#264 [01:12] <mib_kob08v> program
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#266 [01:12] <Ryladine> Sorry, my responses may be a bit slow, it's 1 Am XD
#267 [01:12] <mib_kob08v> k
#268 [01:12] <Ryladine> Have you tried a new launcher? The minecraft.exe?
#269 [01:13] <mib_kob08v> bout 3 times
#270 [01:13] <Ryladine> Updated your video drivers?
#271 [01:13] <mib_kob08v> i just bought the game
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#273 [01:13] <r0ckf0x> Hello
#274 [01:13] <Ryladine> Hello
#275 [01:13] <mib_kob08v> yes i have im pretty sure
#276 [01:13] <r0ckf0x> Ran out of memory error again.
#277 [01:14] <Ryladine> Try launching MC with more RAM, there should be instructions somewhere on minecraft.net
#278 [01:14] <mib_kob08v> a graphics card or chipset update would cause the game to be buggy or noot work only when the game is actually running
#279 [01:14] <mib_kob08v> like when its generating the world
#280 [01:14] <Ryladine> Nah, it can cause problems when it's launching to the menu as well
#281 [01:15] <mib_kob08v> kk
#282 [01:15] <Ryladine> if the menu uses something that doesn't exist in your version of your drivers...
#283 [01:15] <mib_kob08v> wheres the instructions?
#284 [01:15] <Ryladine> For updating your drivers?
#285 [01:16] <mib_kob08v> i have run an older version of minecraft before and the drivers were updated and it worked but just randomy it started doing this
#286 [01:16] <Ryladine> wait...
#287 [01:16] <Ryladine> Your running an older version of minecraft? Or the issue started with the 1.8 update?
#288 [01:17] <mib_kob08v> well i had a non premium version to see if it was worth gettin and it worked i deleted it all and got this one and yeah
#289 [01:18] <Ryladine> Drivers then
#290 [01:18] <Ryladine> You know how to update your drivers?
#291 [01:18] <mib_kob08v> hmmm
#292 [01:18] <mib_kob08v> i have before
#293 [01:18] <mib_kob08v> ill try it
#294 [01:18] <Ryladine> You will need to, 1.8 updated the version of openGL it used.
#295 [01:19] <mib_kob08v> k
#296 [01:19] <Ryladine> if you need help ask and I can assist you.
#297 [01:19] <mib_kob08v> does minecraft require directX
#298 [01:20] <SinZ> dont think so
#299 [01:20] <Ryladine> no
#300 [01:21] <Ryladine> minecraft runs in java and does not use directx
#301 [01:21] <mib_kob08v> k
#302 [01:21] <almostroot> Uses OpenGL.
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#304 [01:21] <SinZ> it uses lwjgl which has opengl in it
#305 [01:21] <almostroot> Which is my nightmare right noe.
#306 [01:21] <Ryladine> almostroot your name does it mean almost root like the root user?
#307 [01:21] <almostroot> Ryladine: Yes.
#308 [01:22] <Ryladine> :) Yay! I get a cookie!
#309 [01:22] <Ryladine> but... I'm too lazy to go get one so oh well
#310 [01:22] <almostroot> I teach Linux/programming/high-performance computing for a living. If it does;t kill me.
#311 [01:22] <SinZ> almostroot are you sudo =P
#312 [01:22] <almostroot> SinZ: More like an su -c
#313 [01:22] <SinZ> =D
#314 [01:23] <almostroot> Or a usermod +G wheel
#315 [01:23] <SinZ> whats -c
#316 [01:23] <almostroot> SinZ: Format is su -c 'command' runs said command as superuser.
#317 [01:23] <SinZ> ah
#318 [01:23] <SinZ> so basically sudo
#319 [01:24] <Ryladine> :( I installed ubuntu on my virtual machine and didn't set the super user pass, now I can't use it. XD
#320 [01:24] <almostroot> SinZ: Kind of. Sudo is a whole system.
#321 [01:24] <almostroot> Ryladine: You don't set root password on an Ubuntu system. You sudo COMMAND everything.
#322 [01:24] <almostroot> SinZ: su -c is a shortcut.
#323 [01:24] <SinZ> On a ubuntu server you do
#324 [01:25] <Ryladine> Ah, so thats why it never asked me for one
#325 [01:25] <Ryladine> to set one*
#326 [01:26] <almostroot> SinZ: You still shouldn't be prompted to actually.
#327 [01:26] <pynchon> 00:24 <+Ryladine> :( I installed ubuntu on my virtual machine and didn't set the super user pass, now I can't use it. XD
#328 [01:26] <pynchon> just sudo passwd
#329 [01:26] <SinZ> I mean, you set root user for a VPS, and actually use the root account =P
#330 [01:26] <almostroot> pynchon: Already covered.
#331 [01:26] <almostroot> SinZ: You shouldn't. Defense in depth and all that.
#332 [01:26] <pynchon> doesnr appear so
#333 [01:26] <Ryladine> Lol I was trying to just get terminal to run all my commands as su and it was asking for one. XD
#334 [01:27] <almostroot> 00:22 almostroot: Ryladine: You don't set root password on an Ubuntu system. You sudo COMMAND everything.
#335 [01:27] <almostroot> pynchon: Reading is a good thing.
#336 [01:27] <SinZ> I just start all my ssh connections in root, and su to the other accounts when I need it
#337 [01:27] <Ryladine> I heard you the first thing lol
#338 [01:27] <pynchon> almostroot: except that youre wrong
#339 [01:27] <Ryladine> time*
#340 [01:27] <Ryladine> mib: Everything going alright?
#341 [01:27] <pynchon> almostroot: sudo has a history of security holes
#342 [01:27] <pynchon> hes more than welcome to set a root password and use root
#343 [01:27] <almostroot> pynchon: What was I wrong about?
#344 [01:28] <mib_kob08v> yeah just updating drivers
#345 [01:28] <almostroot> pynchon: You are not making logical sense in the context of this conversation.
#346 [01:28] <pynchon> follow your own advice and read
#347 [01:28] <Ryladine> You finding everuthing?
#348 [01:28] * almostroot kicked pynchon from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ynchon :I can, thanks.)
#349 [01:28] <Ryladine> LOL
#350 [01:28] <mib_kob08v> yeah found an update will see if it works
#351 [01:29] <Ryladine> Don't worry about it guys, I've never used a fully linux OS so I had no idea how to do anything XD
#352 [01:29] <Ryladine> Closest I've come is my andriod tablet XD
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#354 [01:33] <almostroot> Ryladine: They were being a smartass and saying that you /can/ set a root password, which you can. Enough effort, and you can do anything in a linux system. Tell it to delete the main partition, and it will. Thus not logging in as root and using sudo or su -c instead. Also, not having a user-set root password is supposed to be more secure, but meh.
#355 [01:33] <Ryladine> Lol, I got confused because the java site said to login as SU XD
#356 [01:33] <Ryladine> Trying to install java so I can try running MC on it
#357 [01:34] <almostroot> Ryladine: Using 11.04?
#358 [01:34] <Ryladine> uuhhh XD sec
#359 [01:34] <r0ckf0x> My minecraft slowly uses up more and more memory until it crashes. I have 32bit Win7. 3.5GB of ram total. Clean install of Java. Please help me.
#360 [01:34] <almostroot> ??> Ryladine linux/ubuntu/sun-java
#361 [01:34] <VoxelHead> Ryladine: (linux/ubuntu/sun-java) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-jre-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
#362 [01:35] <Ryladine> Hmm
#363 [01:35] <almostroot> r0ckf0x: Memory leaks are common occurrences. Not using any third-party applications or mods right? And using Minecraft.exe to launch Minecraft?
#364 [01:35] <Ryladine> I can't say if mib's problem was fixed, or if he just fried his pc....
#365 [01:35] <Ryladine> lol
#366 [01:35] <r0ckf0x> I am using a bat file in an attempt to fix the problem but it is not working
#367 [01:36] <almostroot> r0ckf0x: What are the contents of the bat?
#368 [01:36] <almostroot> ??> r0ckf0x pastebin
#369 [01:36] <VoxelHead> r0ckf0x: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#370 [01:36] <r0ckf0x> one moment
#371 [01:37] <r0ckf0x> http://pastebin.com/Fhey67bh
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#373 [01:37] <Gazionetadmin> hey once 1.9 comes out will it lag still or will it be fixed?
#374 [01:38] <r0ckf0x> The bat does not help my problem mind you.
#375 [01:38] <r0ckf0x> After the javaw.exe gets past 1gb of memory it crashes
#376 [01:38] <r0ckf0x> With or without the .bat
#377 [01:39] <almostroot> r0ckf0x: Download minecraft.jar and try this line in the same directory as the jar: java -Xms1024 -Xmx1024 -jar minecraft.jar
#378 [01:39] <almostroot> !client
#379 [01:39] <almostroot> r0ckf0x: The linux version.
#380 [01:39] <Ryladine> Yay! It worked, XD
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#383 [01:40] <Ryladine> btw, almostroot with this version of ubuntu it looks like setting a root pass is about 2 steps lol, a command and commenting out one line
#384 [01:41] * Ryladine knows that looks like and is are often completely different on computers..
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#385 [01:42] <r0ckf0x> When i run the new .bat file, nothing happens.
#386 [01:43] <almostroot> Ryladine: But logging in as root is more difficult I believe.
#387 [01:43] <Ryladine> Meh already tried that, it's just su, then the pass
#388 [01:44] <almostroot> Ryladine: I mean actually logging in as the root account, not switching to it.
#389 [01:44] <Ryladine> Ah
#390 [01:46] <r0ckf0x> Almostroot - I get this error from the cmd prompt"Error occurred during initialization of VM
#391 [01:46] <r0ckf0x> Too small initial heap
#392 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> java -Xms1024 -Xmx1024 -jar minecraft.jar
#393 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> Needs to be
#394 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft.jar
#395 [01:47] <almostroot> Thanks GV. Long day. :/
#396 [01:47] * GreyVulpine nods and completely understands
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#397 [01:48] <r0ckf0x> How sure are you that this will prevent crashing?
#398 [01:49] * Ryladine raises his hand for help
#398 [01:50] <Ryladine> So... I have the .jar, and java installed, on ubuntu but the command line MC.net provides doesn't work?
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#400 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> Ryladine - And what does it return?
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#402 [01:51] <r0ckf0x> GreyVulpine is your skin in minecraft a stormtrooper?
#403 [01:51] <Ryladine> could not find the main calss: net.minecraft.launcherframe
#404 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Also, remember linux is caps sensitive
#405 [01:51] <ZyxenFryx> hey guys, can i ask something about rain and snow?
#406 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> If I remember correctly, the linux jar is named Minecraft.jar, but the command line example calls for minecraft.jar
#407 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> ZyxenFryx - Ask away
#408 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> r0ckf0x - Yes
#409 [01:52] <r0ckf0x> bwahahha
#410 [01:52] <Ryladine> Ah1
#411 [01:52] <Ryladine> Yes, that was it, thanks grey
#412 [01:52] <ZyxenFryx> me and my gf are playing smp, and in 2 different worlds, we've seen rain and snow, like the wall of rain where it meets snow
#413 [01:52] <ZyxenFryx> but snow doesn't generate on the ground
#414 [01:52] <ZyxenFryx> is this a known bug?
#415 [01:54] <r0ckf0x> I have another question if you aren't busy. Is there a way to install Zombe's Fly Mod on this linux jar? I need it because I am an admin on a server and i have things to build.
#416 [01:54] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Other way around re: Linux
#417 [01:54] <Thrae> Blargh, why did two drives in my server fail at once
#418 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> r0ckf0x - Same as any other .jar, go to your .minecraft folder
#419 [01:54] <Ryladine> There is no mod support here, but the easy answer is yes.
#420 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> ZyxenFryx - Sorry, I have no idea
#421 [01:55] <r0ckf0x> Right but zombe's has an installer not raw files
#422 [01:56] <Ryladine> Crashing with IllegalStateException: Only one LWGL ocntext may be instantiated at any one time Suggestions?
#423 [01:56] <Ryladine> context*
#424 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Ryladine - That.. I believe has to do with GPU drivers
#425 [01:59] <Ryladine> Hmm
#426 [01:59] <Ryladine> Probably since I forgot to isntall any lol
#427 [02:00] * Ryladine thinks he should start going to bed at 1Am
#427 [02:01] <Ryladine> Well I'm off now... Before I make another stupid mistake and fry my pc
#428 [02:01] <Ryladine> lol
#429 [02:01] * GreyVulpine waves
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#430 [02:07] <Xymski> !isdown
#431 [02:07] <GreyBot> Xymski: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#432 [02:09] <r0ckf0x> My game just crashed. The bat delayed the problem but did not prevent it.
#433 [02:10] <Xymski> !isdown
#434 [02:10] <GreyBot> Xymski: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#435 [02:10] <Xymski> Grr
#436 [02:11] <r0ckf0x> !help
#437 [02:11] <r0ckf0x> !server
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#441 [02:13] <mib_dxmx7q> hello?
#442 [02:16] * Ryladine|Bed should have gone to bed instead of finishing up on the pc..
#442 [02:16] <Ryladine|Bed> Wecome back mib, Did it work?
#443 [02:16] <mib_dxmx7q> well
#444 [02:16] <mib_dxmx7q> no
#445 [02:16] <mib_dxmx7q> :(
#446 [02:16] <Ryladine|Bed> Any differences?
#447 [02:17] <Ryladine|Bed> Are you positive you got the right drivers?
#448 [02:17] <mib_dxmx7q> yes when it loaded up it first paused at the black screen then it went to the mojang screen and yeah
#449 [02:17] <mib_dxmx7q> yes absoulty
#450 [02:17] <mib_dxmx7q> idk maybe my computer is just too old
#451 [02:17] <Ryladine|Bed> Mmm
#452 [02:17] <Ryladine|Bed> Can someone help him? I'm afraid if I try right now I'll break something....
#453 [02:18] <mib_dxmx7q> lol
#454 [02:18] <Ryladine|Bed> It's 2:30Am
#455 [02:18] <Ryladine|Bed> lol
#456 [02:19] <Ryladine|Bed> Anyone at all?
#457 [02:20] <Ryladine|Bed> mmmzzz
#458 [02:20] <Ryladine|Bed> Sorry, looks like your out of luck for now, just idle and say your problem every once in a while
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#460 [02:21] <mib_dxmx7q> **** yeah it works YYYYEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#461 [02:21] <mib_dxmx7q> THANKYOU
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#463 [02:29] <Gazionetadmin> how do i spawn mossy stone bricks?
#464 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#465 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Mossy = id of 48
#466 [02:30] <Gazionetadmin> can i use the give command?
#467 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#468 [02:31] <Gazionetadmin> i mean
#469 [02:31] <Gazionetadmin> the blocks you find in the ruins
#470 [02:31] <Gazionetadmin> well strongholds
#471 [02:31] <Gazionetadmin> stone brick mossy stone brick cracked stonebrick
#472 [02:32] <Gazionetadmin> how do i spawn them
#473 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> /give yourname 48 number
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#475 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Or wait.. are you talking about the bricks?
#476 [02:33] <Gazionetadmin> yes
#477 [02:34] <Gazionetadmin> i don't want mossy cobblestone
#478 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> ID of 98 then
#479 [02:34] <Gazionetadmin> but that just gives me Stone brick i want mossy stonebrick
#480 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> Oh hmm, that one.
#481 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> You'd need a modded server to do damage values
#482 [02:35] <Xymski> !isdown
#483 [02:35] <GreyBot> Xymski: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#484 [02:35] <Gazionetadmin> yeah i have world edit
#485 [02:35] <Gazionetadmin> so what would i type GreyVulpine?
#486 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#487 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Try reading this
#488 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Stone_Brick
#489 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Make a stone brick stair, and place it in the direction you want, listed in the table
#490 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> Oi, that bug's been fixed. Well then
#491 [02:37] <Gazionetadmin> has it
#492 [02:37] <Gazionetadmin> so how would i get it then
#493 [02:38] <Gazionetadmin> so what damage value
#494 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> Damage value of 1 should be mossy
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#498 [02:54] <Xymski> !isdown
#499 [02:54] <GreyBot> Xymski: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
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#501 [03:02] <katzenklavier> hi :) can I ask for help on how to build stuff in here, or is this channel more directed toward technical support?
#502 [03:03] <katzenklavier> (I tried checking your URL in the topic for the rules, but it's broken.)
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#508 [03:29] <seinker> i was download a mod And since he stopped loading the game
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#517 [04:00] <dylanbarberdude> ive got a mc server host is someone intrested in being co-owner and making it poular build town upload plugins you will get the username + pass for online multicraft panel then do your stuff PM ME IF YOU ARE INTRESTED
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#519 [04:05] <SinZ> trololol?
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#527 [05:11] <frogaincia> hallo spricht hier jemand deustch mein minecraft stürzt immer ab und zeigt mir ne java fehlermeldung
#528 [05:13] <frogaincia> .
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#531 [05:48] <windsorguy27> Hi i was just wondering i am from canada so how much would minecraft be with tax and can i use a vanilla master card or visa giftcard on the website to get it?
#532 [05:49] <Ninemmtylenol> windsorguy27: Just link it through PayPal
#533 [05:49] <windsorguy27> like how do u mean sorry im new to this
#534 [05:49] <Ninemmtylenol> PM me
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#540 [06:23] <Drayconic13> Can I get some help with running minecraft in Linux?
#541 [06:23] <Drayconic13> I get to the Mojang Screen, and then the screen goes black. I never get to the Title Screen
#542 [06:24] <Drayconic13> SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME
#543 [06:24] <windsorguy27> How much is Minecraft in canadian dollars with tax cause it says on site 21.95
#544 [06:25] <Drayconic13> That is US DOLLARS
#545 [06:25] <windsorguy27> damn so how much in canadian would that be with tax
#546 [06:25] <Drayconic13> CANADIAN DOLLARS SHOULD BE ABOUT 24.40
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#548 [06:25] <windsorguy27> thats with tax?
#549 [06:25] <Drayconic13> Yup
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#551 [06:26] <Drayconic13> The 95 cents is the tax in US DOLLARS
#552 [06:26] <windsorguy27> oh so the guy that made it already included his tax for the game price
#553 [06:26] <Drayconic13> Yup
#554 [06:26] <windsorguy27> ah ok kool
#555 [06:26] <Drayconic13> NOtch thought of everything
#556 [06:26] <windsorguy27> how did u purchase minecraft with?
#557 [06:26] <Drayconic13> Would anyone know how to fix minecraft for Linux
#558 [06:26] <Drayconic13> Credit Card
#559 [06:27] <Drayconic13> SOmeone bought me a gift code
#560 [06:27] <windsorguy27> ah thats kool
#561 [06:27] <Drayconic13> Yup
#562 [06:27] <windsorguy27> u just buy it today?
#563 [06:27] <Drayconic13> YEah
#564 [06:27] <Drayconic13> But I'm having trouble running it
#565 [06:28] <windsorguy27> oh
#566 [06:28] <windsorguy27> when is the full complete game gonna be offically out?
#567 [06:28] <Drayconic13> After 1.10
#568 [06:28] <windsorguy27> oh so theres not exact timeframe still?
#569 [06:28] <Drayconic13> But If you wait until then, it becomes 27.95 US dollars
#570 [06:28] <Drayconic13> And no, there isnt
#571 [06:29] <windsorguy27> so basically your owning the game already and your just going along with it as game completes and keep all your stuff u did even when full stuff is ready
#572 [06:29] <Drayconic13> Yup
#573 [06:30] <windsorguy27> ah ok i see
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#575 [06:31] <dylanbarberdude> i cant get java sdk 7 to complie it doesnt regognise "javac"
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#579 [06:58] <HoneyDew> Can someone help me???
#580 [06:59] <HoneyDew> ...
#581 [07:00] <lemon-rev> honeydew
#582 [07:00] <lemon-rev> whats up
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#589 [07:35] <mib_utg7wm> help me what the bad video card drivers
#590 [07:35] <mib_utg7wm> hello ?
#591 [07:36] <mib_utg7wm> :/
#592 [07:37] <mib_utg7wm> heumheum
#593 [07:37] <mib_utg7wm> heeloooooooooo ?
#594 [07:37] <mib_utg7wm> ????
#595 [07:38] <mib_utg7wm> what ?
#596 [07:39] <mib_utg7wm> i can not copy the text in the document !!!!!
#597 [07:39] <mib_utg7wm> and i can not play minecraft !!!!
#598 [07:41] <mib_utg7wm> hey !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¨
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#605 [08:03] <_303> might want to ban Lotium before it posts porn in here too
#606 [08:05] <Calinou> lol
#607 [08:05] <Lotium> http://i.imgur.com/Usqtb.jpg
#608 [08:05] <_303> see
#609 [08:05] <_303> too late
#610 [08:05] <Lotium> this is a montage of 4 photos under consideration
#611 [08:05] <_303> don't click
#612 [08:05] <Lotium> from a website I am designing as a guide to minecraft
#613 [08:05] * Kealper coughs
#613 [08:05] <_303> do not click the pic he posted unless you like watching children lick penis
#614 [08:05] <Lotium> I need some constructive criticism
#615 [08:05] <Lotium> not a child
#616 [08:05] <Lotium> from a legal site
#617 [08:06] * VoxelHead kicked Lotium from #minecrafthelp (Reason: otium :Banned)
#618 [08:06] <Kealper> damn, forgot to type kick in that /ban
#619 [08:06] <_303> voxelhead helps out as always <3
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#621 [08:07] <_tumtum_> can someone help me?
#622 [08:07] <_tumtum_> i have problems with creating levels in 1.9
#623 [08:07] <Kealper> that image was definitely not something i felt like looking at at 8am.....clicked before you said anything ._.
#624 [08:07] <TheNytangel> Here's a couple things I remember from my childhood.. one time my brother was going to the bathroom and I walked in on him. Just think of a little 3 year old walking in on you...
#625 [08:07] <_tumtum_> i cannot run1.8 because i dont have the right mac os x
#626 [08:07] <_tumtum_> i can load old levels in my save folder
#627 [08:07] <_tumtum_> but i just cant enter new chunkcs
#628 [08:07] <TheNytangel> Another is when my mom just brought subway home and went to the garage for something and everyone was still in their rooms, I took a sandwich, not caring whose it was, and started eating it
#629 [08:07] <_tumtum_> i alreade reinstalled minecraft
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#631 [08:08] <Kealper> _tumtum_: we don't provide support to the prerelease version of Minecraft, sorry :/
#632 [08:08] <TheNytangel> And then another is when I was eating steak at the supper table and threw up on my plate
#633 [08:08] <_tumtum_> :'(
#634 [08:08] <_tumtum_> but why i cannot run 1.8 on my macbook?
#635 [08:08] <Kealper> TheNytangel: huh?
#636 [08:08] <TheNytangel> Kealper, did you read the first one? :P Childhood memories
#637 [08:08] <Kealper> _tumtum_: 1.8 has a bug in it that prevents it from running correctly on OS X 10.5.8
#638 [08:09] <_tumtum_> ok thnx!
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#643 [08:20] <mr_pants> Hey
#644 [08:21] <mr_pants> Can I run Minecraft on a Mac?
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#651 [08:41] <mib_xfmrh3> WE Purchased minecraft on 9/23. did not see any system requirement specifications, unfortunately after our credit card info was received we realized that we need a 64 video card in order to play or even download.
#652 [08:41] <TheNoodle> A 64 video card?
#653 [08:42] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: well, i could tell you if your computer could play it, but yes i agree, some listed minimum requirements would be nice
#654 [08:42] <TheNoodle> And there are no specifications on downloading...
#655 [08:42] <Kealper> TheNoodle: if i had to guess, 64mb of vram
#656 [08:42] <mib_xfmrh3> yes, that is the what it is telling us
#657 [08:42] <TheNoodle> brb downloading minecraft to my calculator.
#658 [08:42] <Kealper> ??> mib_xfmrh3 win/dxdiag
#659 [08:42] <VoxelHead> mib_xfmrh3: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#660 [08:42] <VoxelHead> mib_xfmrh3: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#661 [08:42] <TheNoodle> love graphics calculators with wifi...
#662 [08:42] <Kealper> TheNoodle: vram, not ram
#663 [08:43] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: follow what VoxelHead said please
#664 [08:43] <mib_xfmrh3> do you have any suggestions
#665 [08:43] <TheNoodle> Kealper, I'm more concentraiting on 'or even download' but considering that chances are it'll confuse the conversation I'm gonna stop talking.
#666 [08:44] <TheNoodle> mib_xfmrh3, when someone is talking to you they'll normally prefix their text with your name, like I have done. Kealper and VoxelHead have both done this.
#667 [08:45] <Juze> Anyone help solve this graphics driver problem?
#668 [08:45] <Juze> I can run Minecraft on Ubuntu and Vista
#669 [08:45] <Juze> Now installed WinXP and it errors :P
#670 [08:45] <Juze> I'm mostly going to play Minecraft on Ubuntu though
#671 [08:45] <Calinou> what version of java do you use
#672 [08:45] <Juze> Installed latest lwjgl, Java 7 and Intel drivers
#673 [08:45] <Calinou> what is your graphics card
#674 [08:45] <Calinou> JAVA 7
#675 [08:45] <Calinou> THE CULPRIT, delete!
#676 [08:46] <Kealper> lol
#677 [08:46] <Calinou> do not use java 7. never, for minecraft
#678 [08:46] <Calinou> use java 6 update 26/27
#679 [08:46] <Juze> Uh, really? Used it on Ubuntu, Vista and 7
#680 [08:46] <Calinou> uninstall java 7 then install the 6
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#682 [08:46] <Juze> With no problems
#683 [08:46] <Calinou> if you're on a 64 bit computer, use 64 bit java
#684 [08:46] <Juze> 32bit XP
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#686 [08:46] <Kealper> it doesn't always mess up, but Java 1.7 has been found to cause errors
#687 [08:46] <Juze> Anyway, will solve later, need to go
#688 [08:46] <Calinou> also... intel drivers. :( integrated chipsets
#689 [08:46] <Calinou> ok, bye
#690 [08:46] <Andrik> hello
#691 [08:46] <Kealper> ello
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#693 [08:48] <mib_xfmrh3> novice computer user here, my system is 8 years old with no updates. will mine craft run on it or not?
#694 [08:48] <Kealper> you know you are a nerd when you see this on your reddit front page: "Sending a window a WM_DESTROY message is like prank calling somebody pretending to be the police"
#695 [08:48] <Andrik> anyone can help me with commandbook?
#696 [08:49] <Kealper> Andrik: we do not provide support for 3rd party mods, sorry....you could try asking in #risucraft though
#697 [08:49] <Andrik> i have only one little simple fucking problem
#698 [08:49] * AuBot kicked Andrik from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ndrik :Please keep it civil.)
#699 [08:49] <Kealper> such language
#700 [08:49] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: you never did what i asked :/
#701 [08:49] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: follow the instructions that a user named "VoxelHead" is about to tell you
#702 [08:50] <SinZ> commandbook is bukkit, but thats beside the point
#703 [08:50] <Kealper> ??> mib_xfmrh3 win/dxdiag
#704 [08:50] <VoxelHead> mib_xfmrh3: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#705 [08:50] <VoxelHead> mib_xfmrh3: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#706 [08:50] <Kealper> SinZ: >.>
#707 [08:52] <sclars1> I have a problem
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#709 [08:52] <Kealper> sclars1: go on...
#710 [08:52] <sclars1> I am no longer able to log in Minecraft but it still goes to the homepage
#711 [08:52] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: are you following what VoxelHead said?
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#713 [08:53] <Kealper> sclars1: what is the exact error you get when you try?
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#715 [08:54] <sclars1> I press login and then it's not mine but only since the MineCraft 1.8
#716 [08:54] <Kealper> sclars1: are you...entering the correct information...?
#717 [08:56] <dylanbarberdude> Do you help with Java 7 JDK?
#718 [08:56] <sclars1> stands failed to login but when I try it again it does not work
#719 [08:57] <Kealper> dylanbarberdude: usually if you have it installed and it isn't working, uninstalling it and installing Java 1.6 JRE will make it work
#720 [08:57] <dylanbarberdude> Kealpe
#721 [08:57] <dylanbarberdude> ops
#722 [08:57] <Kealper> ?
#723 [08:58] <dylanbarberdude> Kealper, Minecraft is working fine. It is that my computer does not know what "javac" is. Help?!
#724 [08:59] <Kealper> there...is no "javac", there is "java" or "javaw"
#725 [09:00] <Kealper> if you are trying to run java through some sort of command-line, use just "java" and it will pick the correct one to use depending on what that specific program requests
#726 [09:00] <dylanbarberdude> Kealper, Im talking about the Java 7 JDK
#727 [09:01] <Kealper> dylanbarberdude: well, for the JDK, i can't really speak for that...never had a reason to even install it as i am not a Java programmer
#728 [09:01] <TheNoodle> Isn't javac the compiler?
#729 [09:01] * Kealper wouldn't know
#729 [09:02] <mib_xfmrh3> voxelhead- when and where will i receive this link? i do not know what an irc channel is.
#730 [09:02] <sclars1> Kealper
#731 [09:02] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: you grab it from the top of your browser window, and this is the irc channel
#732 [09:02] <Kealper> sclars1: yes?
#733 [09:02] <sclars1> Here is my problem just described: I start Minecraft I give my username and password Then I click on login, but then stands there failed to log on and then I can play offline or click on Try Again Java geupdaitet I have but it does not go against the 1.8 has it all geklapt good but now it does not work. I have looked the internet, it is also not
#734 [09:02] <dylanbarberdude> TheNoodle, YES! (Finnaly someone gets it!)
#735 [09:03] <TheNoodle> lol
#736 [09:03] <mib_xfmrh3> anyone help me from where Voxel Head left off?
#737 [09:03] <Kealper> dylanbarberdude: well, coming here isn't exactly the prime spot for Java developer help
#738 [09:04] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: VoxelHead is a bot, i've been controlling the bot, i've been trying to help you all along but you keep ignoring me
#739 [09:04] <TheNoodle> Pretty sure you need to add the directory for your java install to your classpath environmental variable.
#740 [09:04] <Kealper> ^
#741 [09:04] <TheNoodle> ^
#742 [09:04] <sclars1> Kealper Here is my problem just described: I start Minecraft I give my username and password Then I click on login, but then stands there failed to log on and then I can play offline or click on Try Again Java geupdaitet I have but it does not go against the 1.8 has it all geklapt good but now it does not work. I have looked the internet, it is also not
#743 [09:04] * TheNoodle giggles
#743 [09:04] <TheNoodle> sclars1, how long ago did you download minecraft?
#744 [09:05] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper-sorry, I've copy and pasted as you indicated, waiting to receive link.
#745 [09:05] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: you don't "recieve" a link, you copy the link from the URL bar at the top of your browser
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#747 [09:05] <TheNoodle> mib_xfmrh3, press submit and paste the url of the page it takes you to.
#748 [09:06] <sclars1> I downloaded mine from the Minecraft Homepage
#749 [09:06] <dylanbarberdude> ^
#750 [09:06] <Kealper> sclars1: try playing on the browser version then
#751 [09:07] <Kealper> sclars1: http://www.minecraft.net/game
#752 [09:07] <mib_xfmrh3> keapler -
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#754 [09:07] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: you don't "recieve" a link, you copy the link from the URL bar at the top of your browser
#755 [09:08] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: "your browser" is probably called Internet Explorer, if you were unsure of what a browser is
#756 [09:08] <dylanbarberdude> I am a bot!
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#758 [09:08] <sclars1> So I will now write to support Mojang?
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#760 [09:08] <mib_xfmrh3> I've pasted win/dxdiag at paste bin.com and clicked submit. i don't see a link in url bar
#761 [09:08] <TheNoodle> sclars1, I asked how long ago.
#762 [09:09] <dylanbarberdude> Download the Server and Client from here:
#763 [09:09] <dylanbarberdude> !server
#764 [09:09] <dylanbarberdude> !client
#765 [09:09] <dylanbarberdude> ^^^^
#766 [09:09] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: see the spot at the top that says "http://pastebin.com/" and some other stuff?
#767 [09:09] <sclars1> der download hat so 5 s gedauert ( Die Minecrafte.exe)
#768 [09:10] <sclars1> the download has lasted so 5 s (The Minecrafte.exe)
#769 [09:10] <sclars1> sorry for german
#770 [09:10] <Kealper> sclars1: it happens :P
#771 [09:10] <Kealper> sclars1: go here: http://www.minecraft.net/game
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#773 [09:11] <Kealper> sclars1: wait, don't go there
#774 [09:11] <Kealper> they changed the link
#775 [09:11] <Kealper> sclars1: go here, sorry lol http://www.minecraft.net/play
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#779 [09:15] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper - yes
#780 [09:16] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: copy that whole thing, and paste it into here, that is the URL i wanted
#781 [09:16] <mib_xfmrh3> http://pastebin.com/MfBs4S5W
#782 [09:17] <sclars1> yes I can play it on the homepage but I would much rather know what I can do it again goes to
#783 [09:17] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: thank you, one moment please
#784 [09:17] <TheNytangel> Kealper, what did you do....
#785 [09:17] <Kealper> sclars1: make sure your antivirus software is allowing minecraft.exe
#786 [09:17] <Kealper> TheNytangel: wat?
#787 [09:18] <Kealper> oh....the voice-notice?
#788 [09:18] <TheNytangel> Kealper, the highlight to voices.. yeah :P
#789 [09:18] <TheNytangel> Oh
#790 [09:18] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: your computer should do just fine on Minecraft, i do not know who told you otherwise
#791 [09:19] <sclars1> yes yes, because otherwise it was always but now it's not more on the topic from today to tomorrow
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#794 [09:22] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper - Good to know, but now I've logged onto mine craft.net and its asking me if i want to play Minecraft Beta, in browser or download. looks like its already been downloaded. what should my screen look like?
#795 [09:23] <TheNytangel> mib_xfmrh3, well, I think screens are usually LCD...
#796 [09:23] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: well, first just try playing it in the browser, if it works there i can go in to detail about playing the downloaded version (they are the same game, only difference is the downloaded one doesn't need the browser to be open)
#797 [09:23] <TheNytangel> Liquid Crystal Display :)
#798 [09:23] <Kealper> TheNytangel: i have a CRT one on my server :P
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#800 [09:24] <TheNytangel> Kealper, "screens are usually" as in ones you get with your computer...... defaultly, if that is a word
#801 [09:25] <TheNytangel> 1. An uneasy feeling of doubt, worry, or fear; a misgiving.
#802 [09:25] <TheNytangel> 2. A momentary faint or sick feeling.
#803 [09:25] <TheNytangel> >:o
#804 [09:25] <TheNytangel> I should have just queried..
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#806 [09:25] <TheNytangel> Kealper, definition of qualms :P
#807 [09:26] * TheNytangel goes and gets some yogurt
#807 [09:26] <mib_xfmrh3> Keapler- NICE! still waiting... screen shows Minecraft Beta and large, blank white window. advise...
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#809 [09:27] <mib_xfmrh3> keapler - computer is currently frozen and not responding.
#810 [09:28] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: oh, you might need to install Java, from here: http://java.com
#811 [09:29] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper - says I have the recommend Java installed ver. 6 update 27
#812 [09:30] <Kealper> and i might be slower at responding now...having to work on a computer
#813 [09:30] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: yes, get that one and install it
#814 [09:30] <The_First_Gamer> >_>
#815 [09:30] <Kealper> The_First_Gamer: hmm?
#816 [09:30] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper - says i already have it installed
#817 [09:30] <The_First_Gamer> Some program that runs off of java keeps bitching about reinstalling java, this might work.
#818 [09:31] <The_First_Gamer> Then again, IMO, it's just going to do what the last attempt at a fix did.
#819 [09:31] <The_First_Gamer> Get nowhere.
#820 [09:31] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: well, that's not good if it's doing that...
#821 [09:31] <TFG_Krystal> >_> Never change nicks while half-asleep, you will regret.
#822 [09:31] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper - i do agree. any suggestions?
#823 [09:34] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper - trying to run mine craft in browser one more time. get security warning, doesn't recognize digital signature. run anyway, correct?
#824 [09:34] <Kealper> ok back
#825 [09:34] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: yes, have it always accept for that, to make life easy
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#829 [09:36] <mib_xfmrh3> kealper - say java 'thinking', but after clicking yes to previous window i get the same white, blank screen - computer is frozen again.
#830 [09:36] * Kealper sighs
#830 [09:37] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealer - i feel your pain...
#831 [09:37] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: well, first thing i would recommend is to update your graphics drivers, so give me a moment and i'll give you a link to the latest ones for your computer
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#835 [09:39] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: try these graphics drivers....you might need to restart your computer to apply it after installing though https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/6-11-pre-r300_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_38185.exe
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#839 [09:42] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper- give me a moment to do so.
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#842 [09:46] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper- asking me to select product family - i have no clue??
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#844 [09:47] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: hmm... try this link then, i guess AMD's website does not allow people to link directly to the files... http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/radeon-prer300-xp.aspx click on the "Catalyst Software Suite" link
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#846 [09:48] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper - run or save?
#847 [09:49] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: just run should do
#848 [09:54] <Thrae> Finally figured out my server woes.
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#852 [10:02] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper-
#853 [10:02] <mib_xfmrh3> went back to Minecraft website, now have black screen instead of white???
#854 [10:02] <Kealper> well....atleast it's a change ._.
#855 [10:02] <Kealper> ok then
#856 [10:03] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: is it still open on that black screen?
#857 [10:03] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper - yes, but now frozen.
#858 [10:03] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: ok, look on the bottom right of your screen, by the clock...is there a little white icon with a coffee cup on it?
#859 [10:04] <mib_xfmrh3> yes
#860 [10:04] <Kealper> ok, right click it, it should bring up a little menu
#861 [10:04] <Kealper> select "Open Java 1.6_27 Console" or something to that effect
#862 [10:05] <mib_xfmrh3> kealper - disappeared as pointer moved over it
#863 [10:05] <Kealper> hmm...
#864 [10:05] <Kealper> have you ever heard of TeamViewer?
#865 [10:05] <mib_xfmrh3> nope
#866 [10:05] <TheNytangel> Yes
#867 [10:06] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: it's a program that would let me see your screen, move your mouse, and type stuff remotely...if you want, we can give that a shot and i can see if i can get it working
#868 [10:07] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: so if you'd like, we could try that
#869 [10:07] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper - i know of that process, feel free
#870 [10:08] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: we'll take the rest of this discussion to private messages then, as i'm sure you would not want others knowing the information to control your computer
#871 [10:08] <mib_xfmrh3> Kealper, much preferred thank you
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#874 [10:08] <Kealper> mib_xfmrh3: my name should have appeared on the top of the chat window
#875 [10:09] <Silvio> Hey, I need some assistance with minecraft?
#876 [10:09] <Kealper> Silvio: what sort of assistance?
#877 [10:10] <Silvio> Well I reinstalled it on my new computer (Old one broke) And now it has no Mod folder.
#878 [10:10] <Silvio> (In the .minecraft folder)
#879 [10:11] <Kealper> Silvio: we don't support mods in this channel, try #risucraft
#880 [10:11] <Silvio> Hmm alright, but isn't the mod folder usually in there when installed?
#881 [10:11] <Kealper> no, that is added by ModLoader i believe
#882 [10:12] <Silvio> Hmm alright well thanks.
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#885 [10:14] <napoleon> hello
#886 [10:14] <TheNytangel> Any second now.....
#887 [10:15] <napoleon> Ké
#888 [10:15] <napoleon> uhm
#889 [10:16] <napoleon> can you help me?
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#891 [10:16] <napoleon> Welcome Paul
#892 [10:18] <Silvio> They seem to be ignoring me in risucraft, or I cant speak without voice, Not sure what the situation is there :/
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#896 [10:30] <Blinky> Hi Folks, tried multiple times to run the Classic free version off the website and screen just goes black. (Java messages, ect...) I've uninstalled and re-installed Java a bunch of times (Revo uninstaller) and still nothing. Has anyone not had the free game work in their browser but bought it anyway and have the full version actually work. (I'm at my wits end
#897 [10:32] <Blinky> p.s. tried every google search I could think of and even the Minecraft forums and saw others with this issue, but their were no answers besides re-installing Java.
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#899 [10:35] <irctc598> hi all
#900 [10:35] <irctc598> i've a problem
#901 [10:35] <irctc598> I want to upload a .jar file with filezilla : 553 Filetype not allowed. File dynmap.jar won't be saved.
#902 [10:35] <irctc598> hown can i fix this ?
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#904 [10:37] <Emilien942702> can aanyone help me ?
#905 [10:37] <guest-0-24532> hey, anyone here good at building?
#906 [10:39] <Emilien942702> ?
#907 [10:39] <Emilien942702> anyone can help me ?
#908 [10:39] <Emilien942702> or no one
#909 [10:40] <Emilien942702> please
#910 [10:42] <Emilien942702> deutsh ?
#911 [10:42] <Emilien942702> ich spreche auch deutsh
#912 [10:42] <Emilien942702> et francais
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#918 [10:48] <Emilien942702> ?
#919 [10:51] <Emilien942702> .........................................
#920 [10:54] <Emilien942702> http://pastebin.com/hQeqTHhz
#921 [10:55] <Emilien942702> okay
#922 [10:55] <Emilien942702> has someone a free server hosting ?
#923 [10:56] <Emilien942702> who accept .jar files
#924 [10:56] <Emilien942702> okay
#925 [10:56] <Emilien942702> i will do my own search thanks a lot for your help
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#932 [11:27] <DevilEmil> Hey, after the 1.8 my Minecraft keeps crashing with a "hs_err_pid 2348", 2300, 746 etc... What can I do ???
#933 [11:27] <Kealper> DevilEmil: are you using a mac?
#934 [11:28] <DevilEmil> No, Windows XP
#935 [11:28] <Kealper> oh, that's odd
#936 [11:28] <DevilEmil> It´s the first time for me, too...
#937 [11:28] <DevilEmil> I already rebooted my pc.
#938 [11:28] <Kealper> can you open up one of those files it's making and paste it's contents to http://pastebin.com and then give me the URL in here
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#940 [11:30] <DevilEmil> http://pastebin.com/Bu7mk48S
#941 [11:30] <DevilEmil> It´s the first one I got after i deleted the other ones...
#942 [11:31] <Kealper> oh, i think i see the issue...
#943 [11:31] <Kealper> is your computer rather old?
#944 [11:32] <Thrae> Looks like he's using Java 7 *and* LWJGL is failing on OpenGL 1.3.
#945 [11:32] <Kealper> Thrae: if i had to guess, his graphics card doesn't support OpenGL 1.3, since 1.8 needs 1.3 or higher, it's failing to start
#946 [11:32] <DevilEmil> My Computer is a bit old, yes...
#947 [11:32] <DevilEmil> I can start Minecraft and play for 30 seconds
#948 [11:33] <DevilEmil> On Singleplayer even longer
#949 [11:33] <Thrae> Kealper: Right. I see it all the time with those 84c1 errors.
#950 [11:33] <Kealper> DevilEmil: want to see if the 1.9 prerelease runs? the OpenGL 1.3 error has been fixed in 1.9, so that might just be what the issue is
#951 [11:34] <DevilEmil> Hm... i can test it.
#952 [11:34] <Kealper> DevilEmil: ok, first, do you know how to get to your .minecraft folder?
#953 [11:34] <DevilEmil> sure
#954 [11:35] <Kealper> DevilEmil: open that folder and go in to the "bin" folder in there, and tell me when you are done with that
#955 [11:35] <DevilEmil> Done :D
#956 [11:35] <Kealper> DevilEmil: download this file and place it in that folder (choose to overwrite the existing one) http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre/minecraft.jar
#957 [11:36] <DevilEmil> I´ll backup the normal minecraft.jar first..
#958 [11:36] <Thrae> Good idea.
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#960 [11:39] <DevilEmil> It seems that is works fine on Singleplayer but I can´t try it on Multiplayer for now :)
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#962 [11:39] <Kealper> DevilEmil: well, that was more of a test to see if that OpenGL 1.3 thing was the issue.....and it seems it is
#963 [11:40] <DevilEmil> But 1.8 works fine on SinglePlayer, too lol...
#964 [11:40] <Kealper> oh....hmmm.........
#965 [11:41] <Kealper> and you had no mods installed? (i assumed no but i guess i should have asked)
#966 [11:41] <TheNytangel> Owwww
#967 [11:41] <TheNytangel> Soap in my eye..
#968 [11:41] <DevilEmil> No, i didn´t use any mods/texturepacks
#969 [11:42] <DevilEmil> (I only deleted META-INF)
#970 [11:42] <petern> why?
#971 [11:42] <DevilEmil> Because I wanted to install mods! :D
#972 [11:44] <DevilEmil> Oh, it just crashed... (1.8)
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#974 [11:44] <mib_xbxb3m> I can't run minecraft.. someone help!
#975 [11:45] <DevilEmil> Installed Java ?
#976 [11:45] <Bruno> Anyone there? I downloaded java and it doesnt work for some reason :P
#977 [11:45] <Bruno> Yeah it sais...
#978 [11:45] <Thrae> !motd
#979 [11:45] <Thrae> DevilEmil: You can try the fix for OS X 10.5.8 ^^^^^
#980 [11:46] <Thrae> Oh well
#981 [11:46] <TheNytangel> Thrae, /topic
#982 [11:46] <TheNytangel> !topic
#983 [11:46] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: topic [ Channel Rules (Under construction. Use common sense!): http://www.minecraftirc.net/rules/minecrafthelp | Bug tracker: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang | We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues. | Minecraft 1.9-pre is released. We will not support it until its stable release ] ... changed [ almostroot | Sun Sep 25 21:50:56 MST 2011 ] ... undo [ yes ]
#984 [11:46] <Bruno> 'Failed to load main class manifet from my minecraft.jar file
#985 [11:46] <TheNytangel> Or that..
#986 [11:46] <Bruno> i did try and install 1.9 pre release and it might of fucked it up
#987 [11:46] * AuBot kicked Bruno from #minecrafthelp (Reason: runo :Please keep it civil.)
#988 [11:46] <TheNytangel> Bruno, reinstall
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#990 [11:46] <TheNytangel> Or get kicked..
#991 [11:47] <TheNytangel> Bruno, reinstall
#992 [11:47] <Bruno> Messed it up**
#993 [11:47] <Bruno> java or minecraft?
#994 [11:47] <TheNytangel> Minecraft
#995 [11:47] <Bruno> ill remove it then install it again
#996 [11:47] <Thrae> TheNytangel: I wanted AuBot's specific MOTD...although now I see he notices it, whoops
#997 [11:47] <Thrae> Bruno: Try a Force Update, yeah
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#999 [11:49] <TheNytangel> If I never come back, the worst that could have happened is me slipping and stabbing my heart while trying to open this candy with my knife because I'm too lazy to go get scissors
#1000 [11:50] <TheNytangel> Ok no one worry, I'm still alive and not seriously injured
#1001 [11:56] <SinZ> =(
#1002 [11:57] <Bruno> no it wont even load up to there
#1003 [11:59] <Thrae> ??> Bruno win/reinst/bat
#1004 [11:59] <VoxelHead> Bruno: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1005 [11:59] <VoxelHead> Bruno: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
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#1007 [12:04] <Bruno> do i open it?
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#1009 [12:06] <Thrae> Bruno: You run it.
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#1012 [12:07] <Monn> hello
#1013 [12:08] <Monn> @Kealper <3
#1014 [12:08] <Kealper> :o
#1015 [12:08] * Kealper waves
#1015 [12:08] <Monn> lol
#1016 [12:08] <Monn> :d
#1017 [12:08] * Monn like it
#1017 [12:08] * Monn Kealper "An Admin"
#1017 [12:09] <Kealper> wat
#1018 [12:09] <Kealper> anywho
#1019 [12:09] * Kealper goes afk on here again
#1019 [12:10] <Monn> almost they are all afk
#1020 [12:11] <Thrae> Monn: Do you need help?
#1021 [12:11] <Monn> ni
#1022 [12:11] <Monn> no*
#1023 [12:11] <Monn> i am freind to Kealper
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#1026 [12:15] <mib_etyir4> hey my download button keeps sayin the file has been moved and wont download
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#1036 [12:35] <xXNiklasXx> hey :D
#1037 [12:35] <Kealper> ello
#1038 [12:35] <xXNiklasXx> is a supporter there?
#1039 [12:35] <Kealper> possibly, what was your issue?
#1040 [12:36] <xXNiklasXx> i got prolems with installing minecraft
#1041 [12:36] <xXNiklasXx> i had it on another pc
#1042 [12:36] <Kealper> what issue are you running in to?
#1043 [12:37] <xXNiklasXx> i cant install the game....
#1044 [12:37] <Kealper> what happens when you try?
#1045 [12:37] <xXNiklasXx> always comes the massage cant connect to minecraft.bet
#1046 [12:37] <Kealper> also, are you trying the downloaded version or the browser version?
#1047 [12:37] <xXNiklasXx> .net
#1048 [12:37] <Kealper> downloaded version then...
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#1050 [12:38] <Kealper> does it work in the browser?
#1051 [12:38] <xXNiklasXx> i try....
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#1053 [12:39] <xXNiklasXx> it comes nothin
#1054 [12:39] <xXNiklasXx> only the topic
#1055 [12:40] <xXNiklasXx> minecraft beta....
#1056 [12:40] <Kealper> well, do you know what a Windows profile is?
#1057 [12:40] <Thrae> xXNiklasXx: You mean you only see the News?
#1058 [12:40] <xXNiklasXx> yes i do
#1059 [12:40] <Kealper> does the current Windows user profile have a "!" in it?
#1060 [12:41] <Kealper> or any special characters at all for that matter
#1061 [12:41] <xXNiklasXx> is a special character a number?
#1062 [12:41] <Kealper> no
#1063 [12:41] <Juze> Nope
#1064 [12:42] <Kealper> has it ever had anything like a ! in it at any point in time?
#1065 [12:42] <xXNiklasXx> no it hasnt
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#1067 [12:42] <Juze> Kealper: People whine about MC.net down in #minecraft aswell
#1068 [12:42] <Juze> It's just down.
#1069 [12:42] <Juze> Will fix it self eventually.
#1070 [12:42] <Kealper> oh os it?
#1071 [12:42] <Kealper> is*
#1072 [12:42] <Juze> Yeah.
#1073 [12:42] <Wug> !isdown
#1074 [12:42] <GreyBot> Wug: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1075 [12:42] <Juze> Likely
#1076 [12:42] <ben1206> its bullshit
#1077 [12:42] <Kealper> i'm pretty idle in #minecraft
#1078 [12:42] <Juze> I'm idle in every channel :P
#1079 [12:43] <ben1206> how long has it been down for ?
#1080 [12:43] <Kealper> :P
#1081 [12:43] <Wug> works for me as well
#1082 [12:43] <Kealper> login servers might be down for specific regions
#1083 [12:43] <Kealper> it's done that a few times before
#1084 [12:43] <Thrae> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1085 [12:43] <ben1206> im in UK
#1086 [12:43] <GreyBot> Thrae: It's just you. http://login.minecraft.net is up.
#1087 [12:44] <xXNiklasXx> im german?
#1088 [12:44] <Kealper> Thrae: that'll lie a lot of the time, due to how minecraft.net works
#1089 [12:44] <xXNiklasXx> does it work there?
#1090 [12:44] <Kealper> hmm..
#1091 [12:44] <ben1206> its down in the UK
#1092 [12:44] <Kealper> looks like it's a regional outage then, works in the us
#1093 [12:44] <Thrae> Kealper: Yeah, I just double-checked it says "Bad Login" at least.
#1094 [12:44] <Wug> we need a command that makes aubot check through a network of foreign proxies
#1095 [12:44] <ben1206> thats the problem i think
#1096 [12:44] <ben1206> bad login
#1097 [12:44] <ben1206> it says that for me
#1098 [12:45] <ben1206> but it wont let me login
#1099 [12:45] <xXNiklasXx> i cant login 2...
#1100 [12:45] <Kealper> Wug: if we could get people to run like....socks4 proxies at various locations around the globe, i'd do it lol
#1101 [12:45] <Wug> works in uk too...
#1102 [12:45] <Thrae> ben1206: I mean going to http://login.minecraft.net through your web browser which should always say "Bad Login" if it successfully connect.
#1103 [12:45] <Thrae> s/connect/connects/
#1104 [12:45] <Wug> got bad login through proxify.eu's UK server
#1105 [12:45] <ben1206> oh should it
#1106 [12:45] <ben1206> well it works on that
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#1108 [12:45] <ben1206> but it wont let me login via client
#1109 [12:45] <Thrae> Ooo here we go -- http://www.traceroute.org/
#1110 [12:45] <ben1206> try again
#1111 [12:45] <xXNiklasXx> me2
#1112 [12:45] <ben1206> over and over
#1113 [12:46] <ben1206> it says bad login when i visit that url
#1114 [12:46] <Kealper> ben1206: do you have a firewall installed? (or an antivirus suite)
#1115 [12:46] <ben1206> nope
#1116 [12:46] <Wug> that means its working
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#1118 [12:46] <ben1206> and mc was working yday
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#1120 [12:46] <Wug> someone just teamviewerr him
#1121 [12:46] <xXNiklasXx> my mc does not work since a week....
#1122 [12:46] <Monn> nice idea wug
#1123 [12:46] <Kealper> Wug: he who spake it, does it :P
#1124 [12:46] <ben1206> i deleted .minecraft
#1125 [12:46] <Wug> :tv > ben1206
#1126 [12:46] <WugBot> ben1206: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1127 [12:46] <WugBot> ben1206: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1128 [12:46] <ben1206> and tried to tedownload it
#1129 [12:48] <ben1206> uh wait
#1130 [12:48] <Monn> ping
#1131 [12:48] <ben1206> the issue is
#1132 [12:48] <ben1206> need to download the new client loader
#1133 [12:49] <xXNiklasXx> me 2
#1134 [12:49] <ben1206> it would seem the previous one no longer works
#1135 [12:49] <xXNiklasXx> where can i getit?
#1136 [12:49] <ben1206> minecraft.net
#1137 [12:49] <ben1206> just download the windows exe
#1138 [12:49] <ben1206> and run that
#1139 [12:49] <ben1206> instead of old one
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#1141 [12:49] <Wug> Kealper: ~50ms
#1142 [12:49] <ben1206> tell me if it works for you
#1143 [12:49] <xXNiklasXx> i dowloaded it but it says cannot connect to minecraft.net
#1144 [12:49] <ben1206> im logged in now
#1145 [12:49] <Kealper> !status
#1146 [12:49] <ben1206> it fixed problem for me
#1147 [12:49] <Monn> !status
#1148 [12:49] <Kealper> hmm...aubot's got a 105ms one on last check
#1149 [12:49] <xXNiklasXx> ^^
#1150 [12:50] <Thrae> http://icfamon.dl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/traceroute.pl?target=login.minecraft.net <-- works from some part of the UK. I verified that it doesn't reply for anyone after 216.182.232.194.
#1151 [12:50] <Wug> ... were you using the old launcher
#1152 [12:50] <Monn> me
#1153 [12:50] <Kealper> ._.
#1154 [12:50] <ben1206> yes i was
#1155 [12:50] <ben1206> fail
#1156 [12:50] <ben1206> ive fixed now
#1157 [12:50] <Kealper> lol....
#1158 [12:51] <Monn> hofffffffffffffffffffffff
#1159 [12:51] <ben1206> thanks for help anyway
#1160 [12:51] <Kealper> np i guess :P
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#1162 [12:51] <Monn> !status
#1163 [12:52] <Monn> 108ms
#1164 [12:52] <Monn> :D
#1165 [12:52] <Wug> ;+ old The old launcher no longer works. If you have the old one, download the new one here: http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1166 [12:52] <WugBot> Done.
#1167 [12:52] <Monn> Kealper i want to play mc
#1168 [12:52] * Kealper takes note of that
#1168 [12:52] <Kealper> Monn: you'll have to buy it then
#1169 [12:52] <Monn> i don't have a way to buy it
#1170 [12:52] <ben1206> get a job then
#1171 [12:52] <ben1206> or get some parents who love you
#1172 [12:53] * Wug kicked ben1206 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: en1206 :be nice)
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#1174 [12:53] <ben1206> sorry haha
#1175 [12:53] <Monn> ehm..
#1176 [12:53] <ben1206> only jokin ;)
#1177 [12:53] <Monn> i am 16 no one will make me work lol
#1178 [12:54] <Wug> mow lawns or something
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#1180 [12:54] <Kealper> not much lawn to mow in Egypt i would assume :P
#1181 [12:54] <Monn> what mow lawns?
#1182 [12:55] <Qualx> I need help! I purchased Minecraft but i got an error, can an admin please help me? PM ME! Thank You!
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#1184 [12:56] <Kealper> Qualx: what error?
#1185 [12:56] <Thrae> Qualx: Did the first page give an error but the second page say it was successful? Most likely if you got an error the payment didn't actually go through -- check the issuing bank or credit card bill and see if the money was actually transfered.
#1186 [12:58] <Qualx> I get something from accor service or something
#1187 [12:58] <Qualx> After i payed with VISA
#1188 [12:58] <Thrae> Account Services?
#1189 [12:58] <Kealper> Qualx: is it a pre-paid Visa card?
#1190 [12:59] <Qualx> No
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#1192 [12:59] <Qualx> Full visa, i use it every day
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#1194 [12:59] <Kealper> hmm...
#1195 [13:00] <Thrae> I know the credit card laws are stricter in places like France...you may want to call 'em up and double-check they actually sent payment.
#1196 [13:00] <Thrae> s/laws/rules/
#1197 [13:00] <Qualx> The payment isnt gone if i watch my credit card bill
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#1199 [13:00] <Qualx> but after i pay i get an message from Arcot Privacy Service
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#1201 [13:01] <Kealper> Qualx: i believe you can "proxy" your payment through PayPal without having an account (using the PayPal buy option and then just using PayPal as the card processor)...it might be worth it to try that if something is clobbering the normal credit card payment option
#1202 [13:01] <Thrae> Qualx: Sounds like the anti-fraud protection is kicking in. This happens for a lot of people trying to pay through escrow services internationally. You'll probably have to call them and verify the payment.
#1203 [13:01] <Kealper> or you could to what Thrae says, lol
#1204 [13:01] <Monn> AFK
#1205 [13:02] <Qualx> ok ill try :)
#1206 [13:02] <Kealper> some places disable the option to use PayPal as a credit card processor, but i don't believe Minecraft has that disabled
#1207 [13:02] <Thrae> I suggest calling your company first as you don't want the card locked down if you use Paypal on it =/ I know my bank is over-zealous like that (and I thank them for it)
#1208 [13:02] <Kealper> O.o
#1209 [13:04] <Thrae> If you haven't made a lot of international purchases on your card sometimes they'll block all international purchases (including through escrow) until you explicitly call them up. My bank called *me* until I did it so often they unlocked it permanently.
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#1211 [13:05] <Thrae> I think it's a big part of digital money-laundering.
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#1214 [13:15] <TheNytangel> How unprofessional.. his padding is falling off
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#1216 [13:16] <TheNoodle> O.o
#1217 [13:17] <TheNytangel> Don't think of it sick mindedly.. yamaha posted some pictures of a drum corp on something on facebook
#1218 [13:17] <TheNytangel> It's the quad player's padding that is on the bottom of his drum that is falling off
#1219 [13:17] <TheNytangel> :P
#1220 [13:20] <TheNoodle> lol
#1221 [13:21] <TheNytangel> Lol dinosaurs in tanks
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#1229 [13:43] <mixkid> any1 here?
#1230 [13:44] <TheBadShepperd> Negative, we're all dead.
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#1232 [13:45] <Thrae> TheBadShepperd: Please don't make jokes like that in here -- we get that question a lot.
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#1235 [13:57] <TheNytangel> !client
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#1237 [13:57] * TheNytangel is too lazy to go to website
#1237 [13:58] <Acid20> hey guys. Is wug available?
#1238 [13:59] <TheNytangel> He is away
#1239 [14:00] <Acid20> k thx
#1240 [14:00] <TheNytangel> I must be losing my memory.. I refresh the youtube homepage and it says I've already watched a video that just came out
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#1245 [14:13] <leeps291> hi
#1246 [14:13] <leeps291> who is here
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#1248 [14:14] <Thrae> leeps291: I am. What can we do for you?
#1249 [14:14] <leeps291> i can see through blocks
#1250 [14:14] <Thrae> Sounds like a rendering error.
#1251 [14:15] <leeps291> in 1.8
#1252 [14:15] <Acid20> I can see through glass ... xD sry for that ^^
#1253 [14:15] <leeps291> lol acid20
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#1255 [14:16] <leeps291> i got a message saying that my pc had not allocated enough momory and the game stoped
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#1257 [14:17] <Ygneous> Hello?
#1258 [14:17] <leeps291> hi
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#1260 [14:18] <leeps291> why is MIRC so populer
#1261 [14:18] <Ygneous> No idea. I've never used it before.
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#1263 [14:18] <leeps291> your useing it now
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#1265 [14:19] <Ygneous> Correct! I'm having problems with logging in to minecraft, and hoping someone here can help me.
#1266 [14:19] <leeps291> can i change my nick in minecraft
#1267 [14:19] <Ygneous> I actually don't know.
#1268 [14:20] <leeps291> its blackpool291 i want it to be leeps291
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#1270 [14:23] <leeps291> minecratf has run out of memory WTF
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#1273 [14:25] <alleymoses96> hello
#1274 [14:26] <leeps291> what is minecom?
#1275 [14:26] <leeps291> minecon?
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#1277 [14:27] <TheNytangel> leeps291, go google it..
#1278 [14:27] <Thrae> leeps291: Using Windows?
#1279 [14:27] <TheNytangel> It is a minecraft convention for the official release of minecraft
#1280 [14:28] <TheNytangel> leeps291, you can't change your minecraft nickname
#1281 [14:29] <leeps291> yes win7
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#1286 [14:32] <knobydobs> hi
#1287 [14:32] <danielle> i need help!
#1288 [14:32] <danielle> can you help me with my game?
#1289 [14:32] <knobydobs> what is your problemo
#1290 [14:33] <danielle> ok so i bought a minecraft game and downloaded it...it lets me log in and right before the world loads the screen is completely black
#1291 [14:34] <tyteen4a03> ??> danielle ask
#1292 [14:34] <VoxelHead> danielle: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1293 [14:34] <VoxelHead> danielle: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1294 [14:34] <danielle> ok
#1295 [14:34] <danielle> my screen is blck
#1296 [14:34] <danielle> black
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#1298 [14:34] <tyteen4a03> danielle: Does this imply minecraft worked before?
#1299 [14:35] <danielle> yes
#1300 [14:35] <schnozzle> hello
#1301 [14:35] <danielle> hey
#1302 [14:35] <tyteen4a03> danielle: did you install any mods?
#1303 [14:35] <tyteen4a03> schnozzle: hi
#1304 [14:35] <danielle> no i did not
#1305 [14:35] <davd> Hi
#1306 [14:35] <tyteen4a03> davd: hi
#1307 [14:35] <danielle> hello
#1308 [14:35] <tyteen4a03> ??> danielle win/reinst/bat
#1309 [14:35] <VoxelHead> danielle: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1310 [14:35] <VoxelHead> danielle: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#1311 [14:36] <tyteen4a03> Please try reinstalling minecraft and see if the problem is still there
#1312 [14:36] <danielle> ok
#1313 [14:36] <davd> could you help me with this, When i am loading a map it gets to saving chunks then the screen goes black what should i do?
#1314 [14:36] <danielle> i logged in at another computer...maybe that messed it up?
#1315 [14:36] <tyteen4a03> davd: did it work before?
#1316 [14:36] <davd> no
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#1318 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> danielle: If you have installed mods on the original computer, maybe
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#1320 [14:37] <danielle> alright. i will try downloading it again, thank you!
#1321 [14:37] <schnozzle> is there anything i could do to help with the constant 5 fps
#1322 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> ??> schnozzle win/dxdiag
#1323 [14:37] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1324 [14:37] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1325 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> davd: Sorry, I don't have a clue
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#1328 [14:38] <Valerie> Oh yeah
#1329 [14:38] <davd> k where should i go for help
#1330 [14:38] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: Sorry, did someone else already help you?
#1331 [14:38] <Valerie> I wanna make a screenshot, showing how pretty one can make Minecraft
#1332 [14:38] <tyteen4a03> davd: You can wait here until another helper arrives, for example Thrae|pc
#1333 [14:38] <tyteen4a03> ??> Valerie screenshot
#1334 [14:38] <VoxelHead> Valerie: (screenshot) To take a screenshot in-game, press F1+F2 at the same time. You should get a notification of the screenshot filename in-game.
#1335 [14:38] <VoxelHead> Valerie: (screenshot) The screenshots are stored in with the rest of Minecraft's locally stored files. If you don't know where that is, see ?? .minecraft/win /mac or /linux for your OS.
#1336 [14:38] <davd> thank you anyway
#1337 [14:39] <Valerie> so if you can, can you help me look for a mod that is compatible with 1.8.1 that lets me use custom shaders, and then link me to the best shaders available?
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#1339 [14:39] <schnozzle> where do i find the win/dxdiag
#1340 [14:39] <tyteen4a03> ??> schnozzle win/dxdiag
#1341 [14:39] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1342 [14:39] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1343 [14:39] <tyteen4a03> Follow VoxelHead's instruction
#1344 [14:39] <Valerie> I know how to screenshot with minecraft, I wanna pimp Minecraft out as much as possible :P
#1345 [14:39] <tyteen4a03> what do you mean?
#1346 [14:40] <Valerie> make it look as detailed and good as possible with shaders
#1347 [14:40] <Thrae|pc> Valerie: OptiFine helps a lot
#1348 [14:40] <schnozzle> where is the win key
#1349 [14:40] <tyteen4a03> it's impossible without mods
#1350 [14:40] <tyteen4a03> ??> schnozzle win/key
#1351 [14:40] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1352 [14:41] <Valerie> That is why I am looking for mods
#1353 [14:41] <schnozzle> got it
#1354 [14:41] <tyteen4a03> Valerie: oh, sorry :P
#1355 [14:41] <Valerie> Optifine works with GLSL shaders, right?
#1356 [14:41] <Valerie> or has GLSL already been updated for 1.8.1?
#1357 [14:41] <Thrae|pc> It works in a few ways, one of those being GLSL shaders
#1358 [14:41] <Valerie> ahh thanks
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#1360 [14:42] <Valerie> I'll do the pimping later with optifine
#1361 [14:42] <Thrae|pc> Also, http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/127377-16x-32x-64x-128x-256x18-lb-photo-realism-18-update-9202011/ , I think that really shows the texture power of Minecraft
#1362 [14:42] <Valerie> I want to make a response to the assholes at fortresscraft who is now talking trash about minecraft saying that Fortresscraft looks better
#1363 [14:42] <Valerie> I have the photorealism texture pack, it looks amazing :D
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#1366 [14:44] <Valerie> http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/09/20/designer-claims-fortresscraft-is-nothing-like-minecraft.aspx
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#1368 [14:45] <Thrae|pc> Well, modding the hell out of Minecraft doesn't necessarily mean Minecraft looks better by *default*. The engine just has a lot of room to manuvuer, it's just Minecraft doesn't use anywhere near its full potential. 1.9-pre even steps down OpenGL use to 1.2 from 1.3 due to driver issues on Macs.
#1369 [14:46] <Valerie> I know
#1370 [14:46] <schnozzle> http://pastebin.com/8QCJm5aQ is this the link you need
#1371 [14:47] <schnozzle> please dont take over my pc
#1372 [14:47] <Thrae|pc> schnozzle: There's nothing in there we could use to take over your PC.
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#1374 [14:47] <Caballeros> Hello
#1375 [14:48] <schnozzle> just making sure
#1376 [14:48] <Thrae|pc> schnozzle: I wasn't here when you stated your problem. What error are you getting? Bad Video Drivers?
#1377 [14:48] <schnozzle> no bad lag
#1378 [14:48] <Caballeros> They need to add phone payment option
#1379 [14:49] <schnozzle> i thought voxelhead was working on it
#1380 [14:50] <Thrae|pc> schnozzle: Well the recommended RAM for Minecraft is more than 1.5GB, and you only have 1GB total. That's most likely the culprit along with your crappy integrated GPU.
#1381 [14:50] <schnozzle> what can i do to fix that
#1382 [14:50] <schnozzle> other than buy a new pc
#1383 [14:51] <Ryladine|Bed> Not much other than upgrade the outaded or underpowered components and try lowering settings
#1384 [14:51] <Thrae|pc> schnozzle: The only guarunteed fix would be to upgrade your hardware. We can also try to fiddle with your settings to see if it'll help.
#1385 [14:51] <schnozzle> my settings are as low as they can can go ingame and out
#1386 [14:52] <schnozzle> so ill see what i can get on the upgrade
#1387 [14:52] <Ryladine|Bed> lol Thrae can you ask them in #minecraft why they banned me?
#1388 [14:52] <Thrae|pc> schnozzle: One sec....
#1389 [14:52] <schnozzle> ok
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#1391 [14:53] <Thrae|pc> schnozzle: Place this batch file in the same directory as Minecraft.exe and run it to launch Minecraft -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft512.bat
#1392 [14:53] <Valerie> 1 GB of ram is way too little
#1393 [14:53] <Valerie> buy at least 2 more
#1394 [14:54] <schnozzle> where is the minecraft exe again
#1395 [14:54] <Thrae|pc> schnozzle: Wherever you placed it.
#1396 [14:54] <Thrae|pc> If you never moved it then it's wherever your browser downloaded it.
#1397 [14:55] <Thrae|pc> schnozzle: Also, sometimes the browser version (when you select Beta in browser, not from the EXE launcher) can use less resources. You can try that too.
#1398 [14:55] <schnozzle> yea i might of moved it
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#1400 [14:55] <Thrae|pc> Well, it's wherever your shortcut is pointing to.
#1401 [14:55] <schnozzle> i have the client on my desktop and thats it
#1402 [14:56] <Thrae|pc> If it's not a shortcut then the EXE is on your desktop, which is also a directory/folder.
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#1404 [14:56] <Thrae|pc> So put the batch file on your desktop.
#1405 [14:56] <Acid20> Guys. Short question: whats the difference in the authentification between browser minecraft and minecraft launcher ? because: i can only login with the browser java app
#1406 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Launcher uses SSL
#1407 [14:57] <schnozzle> ok the file you gave me is on my desktop
#1408 [14:57] <Thrae|pc> Acid20: Are you using the old launcher? Does the launcher have news and an "options" button?
#1409 [14:57] <Acid20> ahh ... well: any ideas, workarounds, fixes, so that i can login with launcher ?! cause launcher says always: too many failed logins
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#1412 [14:58] <brauche> hi.. someone there? need help^^
#1413 [14:58] <Ryladine|Bed> Ask away
#1414 [14:58] <Thrae|pc> brauche: Yes? Please explain.
#1415 [14:58] <brauche> thx
#1416 [14:58] <Acid20> Thrae|pc: thats not the problem. I discussed alrdy with Wug. There has to be another problem
#1417 [14:58] <brauche> i got a server 1.8.1 running on my laptop.. using hamachi..
#1418 [14:59] <brauche> since last patch.. i got admin status.. and i delete 1 block per 1 klick
#1419 [14:59] <Acid20> cause my friend can also not login with my login.-data. Only web based minecraft is working correctly
#1420 [14:59] <brauche> means.. i cant die.. i got all items.. but i would like to play ^^
#1421 [14:59] <brauche> but dont know, where to change
#1422 [14:59] <tyteen4a03> Acid20: Browser minecraft checks for java applet <param>s
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#1424 [14:59] <tyteen4a03> i think
#1425 [14:59] <brauche> checked the op.txt file.. and deleted my name..
#1426 [14:59] <brauche> nothing changed
#1427 [15:00] <brauche> just dont know how to change the setting..
#1428 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> brauche - You enabled creative mode on your character?
#1429 [15:00] <Thrae|pc> Acid20: Your friend can't login on THEIR computer using your login credentials?
#1430 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> gamemode 0?
#1431 [15:00] <brauche> the setting "gamemode=0 or 1 doesnt change anything"
#1432 [15:00] <brauche> my friends can play the ordinary way
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#1434 [15:00] <Acid20> @ Thrae|pc : yes exaclty
#1435 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> That's part of the general map setting, not your specific character's
#1436 [15:01] <brauche> on my server
#1437 [15:01] <ybron> type /gamemode (playersname) 0
#1438 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1439 [15:01] <brauche> okay
#1440 [15:01] <Acid20> but i can login on the minecraft.net website and can play on that website
#1441 [15:01] <Thrae|pc> Acid20: You can play Beta on the website? Not just Classic?
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#1443 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Acid20 - Are you able to pull up https://login.minecraft.net ?
#1444 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Should say "Bad login" if you can
#1445 [15:02] <Thrae|pc> ??> Acid20 dont/pm
#1446 [15:02] <VoxelHead> Acid20: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1447 [15:02] <schnozzle> its still laggy
#1448 [15:03] <Thrae|pc> schnozzle: You don't have any texture packs or mods installed, right?
#1449 [15:03] <Acid20> so to sum it up: i can play minecraft beta on the internet (web based minecraft) but i cannot play with launcher. Even my friend cannot on his machine 21:02 Acid20 but he can with his login data, but thats unimportant here
#1450 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Acid20 - Are you able to pull up https://login.minecraft.net ?
#1451 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Should say "Bad login" if you can
#1452 [15:03] <schnozzle> i have the timber mod
#1453 [15:03] <Thrae|pc> schnozzle: Try getting a fresh copy of Minecraft ---
#1454 [15:03] <Acid20> @ greyvulpine: bad login
#1455 [15:03] <Thrae|pc> ??> schnozzle win/reinst/bat
#1456 [15:03] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
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#1458 [15:03] <VoxelHead> schnozzle: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#1459 [15:03] <schnozzle> i could try to switch the .jar
#1460 [15:04] <Thrae|pc> schnozzle: Use the batch file VoxelHead linked you to freshen your Minecraft install.
#1461 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Acid20 - And what exactly, do you get as an error with the downloaded client? Login failed
#1462 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> ?
#1463 [15:04] <Acid20> no
#1464 [15:04] <Acid20> too many failed logins
#1465 [15:05] <Acid20> and the minecraft launcher with logfile creation is not really helpful
#1466 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Then you've been using the wrong username/password with the downloaded client.
#1467 [15:05] <Acid20> wug could not use this file
#1468 [15:05] <Acid20> no ^^
#1469 [15:05] <Acid20> im using the same on both plattforms
#1470 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> It's locked you out, to prevent anybody from brute forcing your username/password
#1471 [15:05] <brauche> Great guys.. /gamemode "name" 0 solved my problem! =)
#1472 [15:05] <Thrae|pc> Acid20: Do you have your username or password saved in your browser?
#1473 [15:06] <Acid20> well : i was this far earlier this month
#1474 [15:06] <Acid20> no
#1475 [15:06] <Acid20> im always loggin in new
#1476 [15:07] <Acid20> mojang could not find any problem by now. they say that everything is correct with my username
#1477 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the latest launcher from minecraft.net/download?
#1478 [15:07] <Acid20> jep
#1479 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Any security software or firewall installed on your computer?
#1480 [15:08] <Acid20> jep. Firewall deactivated
#1481 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Anything that may be monitoring, or filtering programs from connecting to the outside?
#1482 [15:08] <Acid20> doest not work
#1483 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> What kind of firewall?
#1484 [15:08] <Acid20> but thats not a firewall issue
#1485 [15:08] <Acid20> gdata
#1486 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> ... gdata has a firewall now?
#1487 [15:08] * GreyVulpine googles.
#1487 [15:08] <Acid20> because: on my friends machine its also not working
#1488 [15:08] <Acid20> ?! had always
#1489 [15:09] <Thrae|pc> Acid20: How many times has your friend tried it?
#1490 [15:09] <Acid20> dont know
#1491 [15:09] <Thrae|pc> More than once on different days?
#1492 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> Alright, um. Does your password contain any other characters other than letters and numbers
#1493 [15:09] <Thrae|pc> Does your username contain anything other than letters, numbers, and _, like a space?
#1494 [15:09] <schnozzle> not really helping
#1495 [15:09] <Acid20> no only a few times on one day when i gave him special login information
#1496 [15:09] <Acid20> no and no
#1497 [15:10] <Thrae|pc> schnozzle: OK, I can only think of one last thing to try -- go to http://downloadcenter.intel.com and get the latest driver for your GMA 3000 / G31 chipset. I think you might already have it, though.
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#1500 [15:11] <Acid20> well guys. you see: tough problem ...
#1501 [15:11] <schnozzle> yea i tried that a while ago
#1502 [15:11] <mrcrazysalad> help, cant connectto minecraft
#1503 [15:11] <mrcrazysalad> cant log in on the minecraft launchers
#1504 [15:11] <mrcrazysalad> *launcher
#1505 [15:11] <Acid20> and i dont know what to do next
#1506 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> mrcrazysalad - Has it ever worked before?
#1507 [15:11] <mrcrazysalad> Yup lots
#1508 [15:11] <mrcrazysalad> Can anyone else connect
#1509 [15:12] <Thrae|pc> mrcrazysalad: Tried grabbing the latest from the website? You're probably still using the old one.
#1510 [15:12] <mrcrazysalad> The old what>
#1511 [15:12] <mrcrazysalad> ???
#1512 [15:12] <Thrae|pc> It was updated a while ago....like a few weeks ago.
#1513 [15:12] <mrcrazysalad> to 1.8
#1514 [15:12] <Thrae|pc> The old launcher, which doesn't have "News" or an "Options" button.
#1515 [15:12] <mrcrazysalad> i got that
#1516 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> mrcrazysalad - I can connect..
#1517 [15:12] <mrcrazysalad> oh better get a new one lol
#1518 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Acid20 - Have you completely nuked .minecraft (saving your saves), as well as deleting the launcher completely from your system, and redownloading the launcher fresh from minecraft.net/download?
#1519 [15:13] <Ryladine> Anyone need help thats not getting it yet?
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#1521 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Acid20 - Also, have you tried just giving the launcher a few hours without logging in? Change your password, and try logging in with the new password after waiting a little while
#1522 [15:14] <Acid20> @ GreyVulpine: i somehow tried that but not a completely removal just pushed all old files in a backup folder and then downloaded latest launcher and started
#1523 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> "Too many failed logins" just means your account is locked out from having too many failed logins.
#1524 [15:15] <Acid20> what do u mean by ur last question? just make new password, wait ... hmm .. 1 day and then try to login with new password?
#1525 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Simply waiting should clear out that lockout
#1526 [15:15] <mrcrazysalad> when i download it off minecraft.net it still says i cant log in when i run the .exe file
#1527 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes Acid20
#1528 [15:15] <Thrae|pc> Acid20: There is the possibility that your friend somehow got the username or password wrong, or something else happened inbetween your friend's computer and the login server, or something happened with the login server, and just that one time your friend tried it was blacklisted.
#1529 [15:15] <Thrae|pc> mrcrazysalad: What's the exact error message?
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#1531 [15:15] <Acid20> woa ... uff. Thats much information xD
#1532 [15:15] <Acid20> well ... i think i might try the nuke method :P
#1533 [15:16] <mrcrazysalad> Login failed
#1534 [15:16] <Thrae|pc> Well basically, I agree with GreyVulpine's method
#1535 [15:16] <mrcrazysalad> yes i did type it correctly
#1536 [15:16] <Pinky> Hi i was wondering if theres anything wrong with the 1.8.1 version of the game? cuz i cant reach a single server >.<
#1537 [15:16] <Acid20> then i might try the login method and when im still not able to log in ill come back ;)
#1538 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Pinky - Nope. Try s.nerd.nu
#1539 [15:16] <Acid20> or to sum it up: "I'll be back!" ;D
#1540 [15:16] <mrcrazysalad> :O
#1541 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> mrcrazysalad - Are you able to log into the website?
#1542 [15:16] <mrcrazysalad> Yes
#1543 [15:16] <Thrae|pc> mrcrazysalad: Can you log into the website and play the Beta version in browser?
#1544 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Have you redownloaded the launcher in the past week?
#1545 [15:17] <mrcrazysalad> no im not
#1546 [15:17] <Ryladine> Grey: Know where I can get linux drivers for an ATI Radeon 5800 HD besides the AMD site? Thier link for the download doesn't work. XD
#1547 [15:17] <mrcrazysalad> no i cant i log in and it says the same thing, mabey somethings hapened to my account
#1548 [15:17] <mrcrazysalad> i have paid
#1549 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Ryladine - Sorry, I don't know
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#1551 [15:17] <Thrae|pc> mrcrazysalad: Reset your password
#1552 [15:17] <mrcrazysalad> password to what>
#1553 [15:17] <mrcrazysalad> ok nvm
#1554 [15:17] <Thrae|pc> mrcrazysalad: To your Minecraft account.
#1555 [15:18] <DevilEmil> Hello - I got some problems... 1. If I play with Mc 1.8, my Mc closes after maximum 5 minuts. 2. If I play with Mc 1.9, I get horrible laggs. Anyone has a solution ? :)
#1556 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> DevilEmil - Do you get any error reports? Any files named Hs_err_pid that generate when minecraft closes?
#1557 [15:19] <DevilEmil> I get them everytime
#1558 [15:19] <Thrae|pc> Ryladine: Their link works for me. Note their server doesn't allow direct links to their files -- you MUST use a browser -- http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
#1559 [15:19] <mrcrazysalad> i have got it to send it to my account and no email has arrived
#1560 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> DevilEmil - Please copy the contents of the latest one, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
#1561 [15:19] <DevilEmil> I got Win XP and not Linux ? :D
#1562 [15:19] <Acid20> hey guys, just 1 last question: is minecraft saving any registry keys?
#1563 [15:19] <DevilEmil> http://pastebin.com/Bu7mk48S
#1564 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Acid20 - Nope
#1565 [15:19] <Acid20> kthxbye
#1566 [15:20] <mrcrazysalad> Oh crap if someone hacked my account
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#1568 [15:20] <mrcrazysalad> i have to get notch involed
#1569 [15:20] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: I wasn't talking to you. There are more people than just you here.
#1570 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> DevilEmil - Hmm, windows 2000. I can bet that your computer may be too old..
#1571 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> DevilEmil - Can you give us a dxdiag?
#1572 [15:20] <mrcrazysalad> lol 2000
#1573 [15:20] <Thrae|pc> mrcrazysalad: I don't think Notch personally deals with those issues, but you can go to http://www.minecraft.net/support/ and submit a report.
#1574 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> ??> DevilEmil win/dxdiag
#1575 [15:20] <VoxelHead> DevilEmil: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1576 [15:20] <DevilEmil> I got Windows XP x.x
#1577 [15:20] <Ryladine> thrae I did, got it working though, for some reason I had to go elsewhere and then press the back button and it loaded, but it happened when I tried getting it in wondows too XD
#1578 [15:20] <VoxelHead> DevilEmil: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#1580 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> The error report, says windows 2000
#1581 [15:21] <mrcrazysalad> still no email
#1582 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> mrcrazysalad - Did you use the password recovery at http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1583 [15:21] <mrcrazysalad> how do i find out the recipt ID
#1584 [15:21] <mrcrazysalad> yes i did
#1585 [15:22] <Thrae|pc> mrcrazysalad: First, double-check you are using the right email account. Go to http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename and make sure your email is in their database tied to the correct username.
#1586 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> THe receipt ID is what you got when you first paid for minecraft, and got a receipt for the purchase
#1587 [15:22] <DevilEmil> Maybe because I start it with win 2000 compatibility .D
#1588 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> DevilEmil - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#1589 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> ??> DevilEmil win/dxidag
#1590 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> ??> DevilEmil win/dxdiag
#1591 [15:22] <VoxelHead> DevilEmil: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1592 [15:22] <VoxelHead> DevilEmil: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1593 [15:22] <DevilEmil> I checked it!
#1594 [15:23] <Thrae|pc> DxDiag gives us a wealth of information on the hardware and drivers on your computer -- nothing personal nor a security risk, but great for troubleshooting games.
#1595 [15:23] <DevilEmil> http://pastebin.com/8jMRrEmK
#1596 [15:23] <DevilEmil> Here you go...
#1597 [15:24] <mrcrazysalad> its not sending an email to me?
#1598 [15:24] <Thrae|pc> Yeah, another guy with 1GB of RAM who has lag....
#1599 [15:24] <DevilEmil> Lagg with 1.9
#1600 [15:24] <DevilEmil> It´s running fine with 1.6, 1.7, 1.8
#1601 [15:24] <mrcrazysalad> so it wont send me a email
#1602 [15:24] <mrcrazysalad> why, WHY
#1603 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> DevilEmil - I'm thinking it's the java 7 you have installed, the ATI FireGL graphics card isn't doing you wonders either
#1604 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> DevilEmil - Java 7 has been known to cause all sorts of problems with minecraft. Try uninstalling java completely and installing java 6
#1605 [15:25] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: You said it closes after 5 minutes with 1.8. By the way, do you have any files like "hs_err_pid.txt" in the same folder/directory as Minecraft.exe?
#1606 [15:25] * GreyVulpine points Thrae|pc at http://pastebin.com/Bu7mk48S
#1606 [15:26] <DevilEmil> I´ll try to reinstall java...
#1607 [15:26] <DevilEmil> I got java 6 update 27 AND java 7 xD
#1608 [15:27] <Thrae|pc> GreyVulpine , DevilEmil : Yeah, that's not the ATI-specific error I'm thinking of, but I mostly see it happen with Java 7.
#1609 [15:27] <DevilEmil> *update 26, not 27
#1610 [15:27] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: You can just uninstall Java 7 and then update Java 6.
#1611 [15:27] <DevilEmil> I´m doing it right now...
#1612 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> The stack trace is showing java at fault, but I sometimes see that specific kind of kernel call error with obsolete video cards as well
#1613 [15:28] <Thrae|pc> Yeah, it's failing on the OpenGL 1.3 function, so this report is from 1.8
#1614 [15:28] <mrcrazysalad> OK it works, thankyou very much for helping.
#1615 [15:29] <mrcrazysalad> good bye:D
#1616 [15:29] * GreyVulpine waves
#1616 [15:29] <Thrae|pc> GreyVulpine: You know that's the "offending" function call, right?
#1617 [15:29] * GreyVulpine nods
#1617 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> I meant, "C 0x000084c1" with anything that's an older OS, like the win2k that was reported by the error log
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#1619 [15:31] <ngloxo72> hey
#1620 [15:31] <Thrae|pc> Hmm, I've seen 0x000084c1 on newer machines, but with Java 7...just had one today, I recall
#1621 [15:31] <GreyVulpine> See quite a lot of those when somebody's using an SiS card, or an ATI rage card, or an OS that hasn't got a single SP
#1622 [15:31] <Thrae|pc> And I believe that was also ATI too
#1623 [15:31] <ngloxo72> 8-)
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#1628 [15:34] <Nielsen3210> Is there an easy way to fix the black screen i get after launch of minecraft?
#1629 [15:35] <Thrae|pc> GreyVulpine: Any idea what Joefesok is talking about with "hardware space" and needing a harddrive format? http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/1_8_crashes_for_no_reason
#1630 [15:35] <Thrae|pc> Nielsen3210: Depends on your definition of easy. What is your OS and what is your graphics card/chip?
#1631 [15:35] <leeps291> i keep getting the message minecraft has run out of memory
#1632 [15:35] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: Yeah, I asked you before a while ago...are you using Windows?
#1633 [15:36] <Thrae|pc> Nielsen3210: Usually Black Screens are caused by texture packs and/or mods. Do you have either installed?
#1634 [15:36] <leeps291> i said yes windows 7
#1635 [15:36] <DevilEmil> I reinstalled Java, but i´m still getting that message
#1636 [15:36] <Nielsen3210> no, i just installed the game, and its just black :(
#1637 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Thrae|pc - No idea. I can't give any sort of useful advice without seeing a full error log and a dxdiag
#1638 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> Thrae|pc - If I had to venture a guess, I'd say the computer's out of day
#1639 [15:37] <DevilEmil> Thats my last Error log -> http://pastebin.com/fSzuV9uu
#1640 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> date*
#1641 [15:37] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: Sorry I probably D/C'd before I saw your message. OK, grab http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft.bat , place it in the same directory as Minecraft.exe, then use the batch file to launch it. It'll restrict Java to 1.4GB.
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#1643 [15:38] <Ryladine> Hey, sorry to bother you again, running MC on ubuntu is causing problems still XD I know you answered this once, what did you say was probably my problem when it reports it can't fin d the main class: net.minecraft/LauncherFrame ?
#1644 [15:39] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: OK, let's try this. Grab http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/experimental/LaunchMinecraftmx800.bat , place it in the same directory/folder as Minecraft.exe, then use it to launch Minecraft. Don't set it to any type of "compatibility mode".
#1645 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, DevilEmil, try updating your video drivers.. http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/fire/Legacy/Pages/fire_xp.aspx?type=2.4.3&product=2.4.3.3.2.3.14&lang=English
#1646 [15:39] <Thrae|pc> Ryladine: Usually that means you copied the example launch command off of Minecraft's website without first fixing the capitalization ("minecraft.jar" not "Minecraft.jar")
#1647 [15:40] <Wug> Thrae|pc: acid20's problem is legit
#1648 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> ATI fireGLs aren't exactly top of the line
#1649 [15:40] <Wug> :launch
#1650 [15:40] <WugBot> launch: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1651 [15:40] <Wug> ^ has fixed capitalization
#1652 [15:40] * Ryladine Sighs
#1652 [15:40] <Ryladine> Lol I gotta remember ubuntu is case sensitive lol
#1653 [15:41] <Wug> ext2/3/4 is case sensitive
#1654 [15:41] <Thrae|pc> GreyVulpine: Unfortunately I don't think the desktop drivers will work with his notebook (Thinkpad)
#1655 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Whoops
#1656 [15:41] <Wug> its not specific to ubuntu, its specific to the filesystem
#1657 [15:41] <Nielsen3210> still getting the black screen, u got anny ideas how to fix it?
#1658 [15:41] <Thrae|pc> And ATI doesn't provide drivers for old Mobility chipsets =/
#1659 [15:41] <DevilEmil> The Launcher did work but I still get hs_err_log,now I´m downloading the video card driver
#1660 [15:41] <Ryladine> Ffff Another blackscreen lol this time it's... another openGL... must not have gotten the video drivers installed correctly
#1661 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Video card driver may not work for you DevilEmil
#1662 [15:41] <Wug> Nielsen3210: do you have any !'s in your windows username
#1663 [15:42] * Wug goes back afk
#1663 [15:42] * Wug 's cryptography test isnt going to do itself :P
#1663 [15:42] <Thrae|pc> Nielsen3210: Are you using Windows? Do you know your graphics card?
#1664 [15:42] <DevilEmil> I got a backup of my other video card driver...
#1665 [15:42] <Nielsen3210> dont know graph card, and yes i got windos
#1666 [15:44] <Thrae|pc> Wug: Remember, if I say "function GetRandomNumber() return 9", that's a proper random number because I picked it off the top of my head!
#1667 [15:44] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: Do you still have a copy of 1.7.3 by any chance?
#1668 [15:45] <DevilEmil> errr... i´d have to crack minecraft for that
#1669 [15:45] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: Crack it? I'm not sure what you mean. If you don't have a copy of 1.7.3, you can use MCNostalgia -- http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/106402-tool-cyborgs-tools-mcnostalgia-104/
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#1671 [15:46] <DevilEmil> Why do I need that ?
#1672 [15:46] <DevilEmil> The Video Card Driver isn´t working :)
#1673 [15:47] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: I've heard reports of people saying 1.7.3 runs fine, when 1.8.x gives them the error you're getting, and 1.9-pre runs slow.
#1674 [15:47] <DevilEmil> That´s for me like that, too
#1675 [15:47] <DevilEmil> But can I join a 1.8-Server with 1.7.3 ?
#1676 [15:47] <Thrae|pc> Nope
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#1678 [15:48] <DevilEmil> Then I´ll play like that... till the New Year :D
#1679 [15:48] <DevilEmil> (or patch 1.10...?)
#1680 [15:49] <DevilEmil> Thank you for your help anyway!
#1681 [15:49] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: There's no guaruntee any future patch will fix this problem. It's most likely to do with bad OpenGL 1.2 support.
#1682 [15:49] <Thrae|pc> Well bad OpenGL support altogether.
#1683 [15:49] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: There is something else I can check, if you have time.
#1684 [15:49] <DevilEmil> I have tine...
#1685 [15:50] <DevilEmil> *time
#1686 [15:50] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/download.html <-- download and install for Windows
#1687 [15:51] <DevilEmil> I installed it, what now ?
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#1689 [15:51] <leeps291> where do i fun the bat file
#1690 [15:51] <Thrae|pc> Run it and tell me when it's up.
#1691 [15:51] <DevilEmil> Its up.
#1692 [15:51] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft.bat
#1693 [15:52] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: OK, what does it say next to "Renderer"? And what does it say next to "Version" in the OpenGL field?
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#1695 [15:53] <leeps291> when i run it i just see a black box for a split second
#1696 [15:53] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: Needs to be in the same directory as Minecraft.exe.
#1697 [15:53] <leeps291> oh
#1698 [15:53] <leeps291> ok
#1699 [15:55] <DevilEmil> "Renderer" = MOBILITY FIREGL T2 Pentium 4 (SSE2)
#1700 [15:55] <DevilEmil> "Version" = 2.0
#1701 [15:56] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: Click on "See details" next to the version.
#1702 [15:56] <DevilEmil> Yes ?
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#1705 [15:58] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: Go into "1.2" and "1.3" and list to me what's under "Supported", separated by comma.
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#1707 [15:59] <DevilEmil> That will take about 10mins :D
#1708 [16:00] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: OK, then go up to the Menu and right below it click on the far right button which should give you a Menu of its own. Go to "Save As" (XML), then open the XML file with Notepad and copy all the information into a pastebin. I specifically need the info between the two <Extensions>
#1709 [16:03] <DevilEmil> GL_EXT_draw_buffers2 (GL_VERSION 2.0), GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object (GL_VERSION 2.0), GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 (GL_VERSION 2.0), GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_vertex_attrib_64bit (GL_VERSION 2.0)
#1710 [16:03] <DevilEmil> That was 1.2
#1711 [16:03] <DevilEmil> Now 1.3 :
#1712 [16:05] <DevilEmil> GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_gather (GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3), GL_ARB_vertex_array_object (GL VERSION 2.0)
#1713 [16:06] <DevilEmil> Oh dude, that was much...
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#1716 [16:07] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: At the top, in the drop-down, what does it say?
#1717 [16:08] <DevilEmil> In the drop-down ?
#1718 [16:08] <HavingTrouble> Guys, i'm having problem installing Modloader 1.8.1. I've placed the .class files into minecraft.jar, and ive deleted the META-INF folder, but every time I load up minecraft, it gets to the 'Mojang' screen and then crashes.
#1719 [16:08] <Thrae|pc> ??> HavingTrouble mods
#1720 [16:08] <VoxelHead> HavingTrouble: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#1721 [16:08] <VoxelHead> HavingTrouble: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1722 [16:09] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: Yeah there should be a dropdown box with a little down arrow to denote its a dropdown menu. It's next to the Home icon, which is next to the Back/Forward icons.
#1723 [16:10] <HavingTrouble> I would go into Bukkit
#1724 [16:10] <HavingTrouble> but there is no one there
#1725 [16:11] <DevilEmil> There is only "back", "forwards", "summary", then the current renderer (MOBILITY FIREGL)
#1726 [16:11] <DevilEmil> There are 3 Icons at the right side...
#1727 [16:11] <Thrae|pc> HavingTrouble: #risucraft is the channel you want. They deal with mods.
#1728 [16:11] <HavingTrouble> ah right, thanks
#1729 [16:11] <TheNytangel> Thrae|pc, go look at it >:(
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#1731 [16:13] <thekids2010> hello can anyone please help me. I purchased this game for my kids ages 8 and 5. However i can not get it to download. is there something i should be doing?
#1732 [16:13] <HavingTrouble> Keeps saying 'Cannot sent to channel ~risucraft
#1733 [16:13] <DevilEmil> Minecraft.net -> download ?
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#1735 [16:13] <Thrae|pc> HavingTrouble: Need to register
#1736 [16:13] <Espresso> Is the 1.9 pre release limited, or can I download it?
#1737 [16:13] <Thrae|pc> thekids2010: Did you download the launcher off the Minecraft.net website, or are you having trouble doing that?
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#1739 [16:14] <Thrae|pc> Espresso: You can download it but it's not going to do you any good if you don't have the other files distributed with a paid account.
#1740 [16:14] <Espresso> I have a registered account...
#1741 [16:14] <Espresso> Where can I find it?
#1742 [16:14] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: So the box which has the current renderer, can you click on it and get a menu?
#1743 [16:14] <DevilEmil> There is only "GDI Generic"
#1744 [16:15] <thekids2010> Yes. I trying downloading it from the minecraft.net web site after i opened an account and paid for the game.
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#1746 [16:15] <Thrae|pc> thekids2010: OK, does that download succeed? Are you having problems after you login via the launcher you downloaded?
#1747 [16:15] <Nielsen3210> is it possible to play minecraft without buying it??
#1748 [16:16] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: OK, well we verified your current drivers have OpenGL 1.3 compatibility according to that tool. Maybe there's a bug in the drivers....
#1749 [16:16] <tyteen4a03> Nielsen3210: You have 2 options
#1750 [16:16] <tyteen4a03> the first one is to stick with the demo
#1751 [16:16] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nielsen3210 demo
#1752 [16:16] <VoxelHead> Nielsen3210: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#1753 [16:16] <thekids2010> the download does go though, however i have tried to save it and tried running it and I can't find it anywhere.
#1754 [16:16] <VoxelHead> Nielsen3210: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
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#1756 [16:16] <DevilEmil> YAY; My driver is bugging :D
#1757 [16:16] <tyteen4a03> The second options is to play Minecraft classic, which is free, but lacks a lot of features the current version of Minecraft has
#1758 [16:16] <Espresso> 1.9 download link for a registered user since alpha?
#1759 [16:16] <tyteen4a03> Espresso: mc.net/download.jsp
#1760 [16:17] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/modtool.php <-- try using this tool to mod the latest Mobility drivers for XP 32-bit
#1761 [16:17] <tyteen4a03> it's the same for everybody
#1762 [16:17] <Thrae|pc> Espresso: http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/230-19-pre-release-is-out-for-testing/
#1763 [16:17] <Espresso> thank you so much! :D
#1764 [16:18] <Nielsen3210> And if i can play the demo thingy its a 100% i can play the real deal, if i buy it?
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#1767 [16:21] <Thrae|pc> Nielsen3210: I believe the demo shows the latest release, yeah.
#1768 [16:21] <thekids2010> Hello thraeplc are you still asisting me with the download issue?
#1769 [16:22] <Thrae|pc> thekids2010: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out exactly what your issue is...are you using Windows?
#1770 [16:22] <thekids2010> Sorry for the miss info. The download does not go thought.
#1771 [16:23] <thekids2010> yes, I am using windows 7. Explore 9
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#1773 [16:24] <Thrae|pc> thekids2010: Internet Explorer 9 has some weird auto-rename settings for some people. Try downloading it through a different browser, like Chrome -- http://www.google.com/chrome
#1774 [16:24] <Thrae|pc> thekids2010: IE9 probably renamed the EXE extension to something else, which is why you're having trouble finding it.
#1775 [16:25] <thekids2010> downloading chrome right now
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#1778 [16:27] <PeZuY> Hello, new minecraft user here, I face this problem where I can't login to the minecraft.exe but I can from the browser. And when I put 1.9 into roaming->.minecraft-> bin (jar file) even the browser won't run anymore :( any help here?
#1779 [16:27] <thekids2010> thanks. the download worked with chrome.
#1780 [16:28] <thekids2010> thank you for your help.
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#1782 [16:29] <Thrae|pc> PeZuY: Did you download the latest Minecraft.exe launcher from the website?
#1783 [16:29] <PeZuY> yeah I did
#1784 [16:30] <Thrae|pc> OK, so the launcher you are using has a News section and an "Options" button which has a "Force Update" button?
#1785 [16:30] <PeZuY> yes it does, but it didn't affect anyway even if I forced it
#1786 [16:31] <Thrae|pc> ??> PeZuY win/reinst/bat
#1787 [16:31] <VoxelHead> PeZuY: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1788 [16:31] <VoxelHead> PeZuY: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#1789 [16:31] <PeZuY> will try it out lets see=)
#1790 [16:31] <Thrae|pc> PeZuY: ^^^ Use the above batch file to clean away your .minecraft files except for your saves and world and let it re-download.
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#1792 [16:34] <PeZuY> It steeps still saying that "can't connect to minecraft.net" when trying to use .exe file. But it will update when using browser
#1793 [16:34] <Thrae|pc> PeZuY: Does your Minecraft username or password have any special characters in it other than letters, numbers, or underscore _
#1794 [16:35] <PeZuY> nothing special, only few letters contains uppercase
#1795 [16:36] <Ryladine> Is anyone still waiting for help?
#1796 [16:37] <Thrae|pc> PeZuY: Does your Windows username have a ! in it? Did you ever change it from something with a ! in it?
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#1798 [16:37] <PeZuY> Nope
#1799 [16:38] <Drayconic13> Anyone know why Minecraft won't load on linux?
#1800 [16:38] * Ryladine is actually working on getting MC to run in linux himself XD
#1800 [16:38] <Ryladine> lol
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#1804 [16:39] <Ryladine> XD Pressed the wrong butto again
#1805 [16:39] <Ryladine> button*
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#1807 [16:42] <leeps291> i cant fine minecraft.exe i see application
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#1810 [16:44] <quiggle> game wont load, screen goes white or black, i have a macbook
#1811 [16:45] <leeps291> bang head on keybored to continue
#1812 [16:45] <Thrae|pc> quiggle: OS X 10.5.8?
#1813 [16:45] <quiggle> osx
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#1815 [16:45] <Thrae|pc> quiggle: https://www.apple.com/support/mobileme/en/os_version.html
#1816 [16:46] <quiggle> osx 10.5.8
#1817 [16:47] <Thrae|pc> quiggle: Type "!motd" (no quotes) and AuBot should message you with information about 10.5.8.
#1818 [16:48] <quiggle> !motd
#1819 [16:48] <Ryladine> Anyone know how to find usr/share/ in ubuntu? Still trying to get video drivers install for Minecraft :(
#1820 [16:48] <Ryladine> installed*
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#1822 [16:49] <funkeymunkeys> HAI
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#1824 [16:49] <Thrae|pc> Ryladine: What do you mean "how to find it"? "/usr/share" is a directory path.
#1825 [16:49] <funkeymunkeys> i gots a new computer and my minecraft rondomly freezes and closes every half hour or soooo
#1826 [16:50] <Ryladine> Lol I can't find it :0 I'm trying to get to it both with the filebrowser and cd in terminal and I just can't seem to get to it XD
#1827 [16:50] <Ryladine> funkeymonkey: Specs?
#1828 [16:50] <Thrae|pc> Ryladine: "cd /usr/share"
#1829 [16:50] <Ryladine> FFfff I didn't have the / infront of it LOL
#1830 [16:51] * Ryladine thinks learning ubuntu is going to be a long, slow process
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#1831 [16:51] <Thrae|pc> Ryladine: / represents "root", and is the root of all absolute paths (you can't get any higher than / )
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#1833 [16:52] <Ryladine> Ahh, that helps :)
#1834 [16:52] <funkeymunkeys> where do i find my specs? its not at best buy anymore :/
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#1836 [16:52] <Ryladine> Funkeymonkey: Do you know how much RAM is in it?
#1837 [16:52] <Thrae|pc> ??> funkeymunkeys win/dxdiag
#1838 [16:52] <VoxelHead> funkeymunkeys: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1839 [16:52] <VoxelHead> funkeymunkeys: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1840 [16:52] <funkeymunkeys> 8
#1841 [16:53] <Ryladine> probably not your problem then, go ahead and follow voxelheads dirrections, but has it generated any error log files?
#1842 [16:54] <Thrae|pc> Ryladine: GNU Linux doesn't care about what drive a file is on when it's dealing with root, unlike Windows which handles things in volumes, like "Local Disk (C:)".
#1843 [16:55] <funkeymunkeys> http://pastebin.com/8X8rdXUP
#1844 [16:55] <Ryladine> Ah that explains a bit thrae
#1845 [16:55] <Thrae|pc> The whole C: thing for Windows is an old MS-DOS thing and rather stupid
#1846 [16:56] <Ryladine> Funkymunkeys: Do you have any mods installed?
#1847 [16:56] <funkeymunkeys> nope
#1848 [16:56] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Why did you get 8GB of RAM on this machine but no dedicated graphics card?
#1849 [16:56] <Thrae|pc> Oh wait -- notebook. Still....
#1850 [16:56] <funkeymunkeys> it does
#1851 [16:56] <Ryladine> Funkymunkeys: Thats a good questions XD
#1852 [16:56] <Ryladine> lol
#1853 [16:57] <Ryladine> Funkymunkeys: Have any files been generated in the location you run the minecraft.exe from?
#1854 [16:57] <funkeymunkeys> RADEON GRAPHICS HD 6650M 1GB dedicated, thats what stcicker on front says
#1855 [16:57] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Nope, it has an Intel integrated graphics chipset, which pales in comparison to a dedicated ATI or Nvidia chipset
#1856 [16:57] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Oooo then the drivers must not be installed
#1857 [16:57] <funkeymunkeys> idk
#1858 [16:57] <Ryladine> Funkymunkeys: Yeah that sounds like it :)
#1859 [16:57] <Thrae|pc> Actually now that I look at this DxDiag it says "Mobile Intel(R) HD Graphics Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc." wait, what
#1860 [16:58] <funkeymunkeys> lol i saw that too
#1861 [16:58] <Ryladine> lol, question it not XD
#1862 [16:58] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Does this model have Switchable Graphics?
#1863 [16:58] <funkeymunkeys> yes
#1864 [16:58] <Ryladine> question only why windows is odd
#1865 [16:58] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Is it automatic (software) or by an actual switch?
#1866 [16:58] <funkeymunkeys> erm stciker says.. AMD Dynamic Switchable Graphics Technology
#1867 [16:58] <Ryladine> software then
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#1869 [16:59] <funkeymunkeys> is that bad?
#1870 [16:59] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: I bet what's happening is that Java is using your Intel HD Graphics and not the ATI Radeon chip
#1871 [16:59] <Ryladine> Thrae you seem to know a bit more about this sort of thing, I've never had to deal with switching graphics
#1872 [16:59] <Ryladine> I'll leave him to you :)
#1873 [16:59] <funkeymunkeys> :D
#1874 [16:59] <DevilEmil> Thrae, I installed it with the Mobility Modder, I´m testing Mc now :)
#1875 [17:00] <funkeymunkeys> so how do i know what chip java is using?
#1876 [17:00] <funkeymunkeys> i get like 15 fps on high and fancy
#1877 [17:00] <Ryladine> The intel probably
#1878 [17:00] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Not sure -- I've never encountered this technology before. Go into the AMD Catalyst Control Center and look for this page -- http://www.anandtech.com/Gallery/Album/1403#2
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#1880 [17:01] <funkeymunkeys> where do i find the control center?
#1881 [17:01] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: You want to click on "Browse", then add in java.exe and javaw.exe, which should be in "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin" for Java 6
#1882 [17:01] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Control Panel, or right-click on the desktop
#1883 [17:01] <DevilEmil> Thrae : I still get the hs_err_log ...
#1884 [17:01] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: Did you try modding the drivers?
#1885 [17:02] <DevilEmil> I modded them already...
#1886 [17:02] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: Did you mod them since the last time you gave us the pastebin link for DxDiag? Since that link had 2007 drivers.
#1887 [17:02] <funkeymunkeys> ThrlPC i see no browse option
#1888 [17:02] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Also add in java.exe and javaw.exe from "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java"
#1889 [17:03] <DevilEmil> I don´t get what you mean...
#1890 [17:03] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Do you have a screen like this under Power->Swtichable Graphics? -- http://www.anandtech.com/Gallery/Album/1403#2
#1891 [17:03] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: Did you use this tool before -- http://www.hardwareheaven.com/modtool.php
#1892 [17:03] <DevilEmil> No, I didn´t :)
#1893 [17:04] <DevilEmil> I made everything right - It says that my file is already modded
#1894 [17:04] <funkeymunkeys> yep, java.exe is NOT assigned
#1895 [17:04] <Thrae|pc> DevilEmil: Actually, this should be easier -- http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-xp-radeon-display-drivers/205454-ati-radeon-mobility-modded-catalyst-drivers-windows-xp-32-bit-updated.html
#1896 [17:04] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Right....should be a "Browse" button under the portion that says "Other Applications"
#1897 [17:05] <funkeymunkeys> yep
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#1900 [17:08] <funkeymunkeys> i did it, they were only under the x86 folder
#1901 [17:08] <funkeymunkeys> java wwasnt in the other one
#1902 [17:08] <funkeymunkeys> brb gotta try out my minecraft
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#1904 [17:09] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: I suggest installing 64-bit Java too -- https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp , so Java can allocate more than 1.4GB of memory for Minecraft if needed
#1905 [17:09] <TheNytangel> Wug.. Wug.. Wug.. Wug, you there? I need Wug
#1906 [17:09] <Wug> TheNytangel TheNytangel TheNytangel TheNytangel TheNytangel TheNytangel.
#1907 [17:10] <TheNytangel> Good :D
#1908 [17:10] <TheNytangel> Wug, http://imgur.com/gallery/4NWSe
#1909 [17:10] <Wug> hurry, I have little time
#1910 [17:10] <Wug> y u need me
#1911 [17:10] <TheNytangel> Wug, http://imgur.com/gallery/4NWSe
#1912 [17:10] <Wug> you have a mac?
#1913 [17:10] <TheNytangel> No, I just thought it was amusing :P
#1914 [17:10] <Wug> :|
#1915 [17:10] <funkeymunkeys> dont i have 64 already Thraelpc?
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#1917 [17:11] <mermi> Mods loaded: 1
#1918 [17:12] <Wug> ;+ tc Use tab completion to complete people's nicknames. Type the first few letters, then press the tab key, and your client will fill in the others.
#1919 [17:12] <WugBot> Done.
#1920 [17:12] <mermi> i need help
#1921 [17:12] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: If you don't have C:\Program Files\Java then you don't have 64-bit Java installed. Most likely you just installed it through a 32-bit browser.
#1922 [17:12] <mermi> okay, so first i dragged mod loader to minecraft jar, then too many item files and meta inf was deleted, next single player commands and finally elemental arrows, i dragged all of the files in the mods to minecraft jar. and i was using ALzip, it works with too many items and singly player commands but not anything with modloader, i have downloaded new modload
#1923 [17:13] <mermi> and still it does not work
#1924 [17:13] <funkeymunkeys> i installed it through google chrome, should i try internet ex.
#1925 [17:13] <mermi> help!!!!!!
#1926 [17:13] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: You can just download it from https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#1927 [17:13] <Thrae|pc> ??> mermi mods
#1928 [17:13] <VoxelHead> mermi: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#1929 [17:13] <VoxelHead> mermi: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1930 [17:13] <Wug> :j > funkeymunkeys
#1931 [17:13] <WugBot> funkeymunkeys: (j) Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#1932 [17:13] <Wug> use this
#1933 [17:14] <Wug> Thrae|pc: java.com doesnt let you pick a 64 bit download unless you're using a 64 bit browser
#1934 [17:14] <mermi> thanks
#1935 [17:14] <Wug> remember the :j factoid
#1936 [17:14] <Wug> will always have the most relevant version of java
#1937 [17:14] <Thrae|pc> Wug: https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp has the 64-bit version -- it shows both offline versions.
#1938 [17:15] <Thrae|pc> And is still Java 6 Update 27, like http://www.java.com/en/download/
#1939 [17:15] <funkeymunkeys> downloading now, Thraelpc MY minecraft gets 20 fps more now that i changed the graphic card dude! THANKYOU
#1940 [17:15] <Wug> Thrae|pc: I dont see a 64 bit manual download
#1941 [17:15] <Wug> it detects the browser
#1942 [17:15] <Thrae|pc> Wug: I'm using 32-bit Chrome and it shows me both....what browser are you using?
#1943 [17:16] <Wug> 64 bit chromium on ubuntu
#1944 [17:16] <funkeymunkeys> im using chraome and it shows both
#1945 [17:16] <Wug> stupid website
#1946 [17:16] <Thrae|pc> Maybe it's because it's Ubuntu?
#1947 [17:16] <Ryladine> lol
#1948 [17:16] <Wug> theres an "information about the 64 bit java plugin"
#1949 [17:16] <Wug> but that just leads me in circles
#1950 [17:16] <Thrae|pc> It detects based on OS, but not browser, for that page
#1951 [17:16] <Ryladine> wug, you use ubuntu, think you can help me with an answer?
#1952 [17:17] <Wug> Ryladine: probably
#1953 [17:17] <Ryladine> My driver isntallation is failing withh error 127
#1954 [17:17] <Wug> Thrae|pc: I've never been able to download the 64 bit one there except from 64 bit IE
#1955 [17:17] <Thrae|pc> Wug: For some reason on Windows I can scroll down and see "http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=52242"
#1956 [17:18] <funkeymunkeys> so i just run the java thing i just downloaded, do i have to do anything first?
#1957 [17:18] <Thrae|pc> Wug: Which is the Linux 64-bit binary
#1958 [17:18] <Wug> Thrae|pc: it lets you pick the 64 bit ones for each OS except windows
#1959 [17:18] <Wug> windows just has online and offline
#1960 [17:18] <Wug> both 32 bit
#1961 [17:18] <Thrae|pc> Wug: Yeah, it's always shown me the two offline versions for Windows, including 64-bit, but not on 32-bit machines
#1962 [17:18] <Wug> what browser do you use
#1963 [17:19] <funkeymunkeys> so i was supposed to get the offline one?
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#1965 [17:19] <funkeymunkeys> thsats what i got
#1966 [17:19] <funkeymunkeys> for 64 bit
#1967 [17:19] <Wug> funkeymunkeys: that will do
#1968 [17:19] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: The 64-bit one is the offline one
#1969 [17:19] <Wug> Thrae|pc:what browser do you use
#1970 [17:19] <funkeymunkeys> ok so do i uninstall the java i have now first??
#1971 [17:19] <Thrae|pc> Wug: Same page for IE9, Chrome, and Firefox all 32-bit
#1972 [17:19] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Nope
#1973 [17:19] <funkeymunkeys> just click it
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#1975 [17:20] <Wug> Thrae|pc: thats weird
#1976 [17:20] <Wug> as well as stupid
#1977 [17:20] <Wug> I've had problems with this in the past though
#1978 [17:20] <Wug> it would probably be easier to just use the :j factoid which has a list
#1979 [17:21] <Thrae|pc> Wug: For some reason Firefox shows it as "Windows 7, XP Offline (64-bit)" instead of "Windows 7, XP (64-bit)", even though it's the exact same link
#1980 [17:21] <Thrae|pc> (Offline version)
#1981 [17:21] <funkeymunkeys> so will this improve fps also
#1982 [17:21] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: So after you install it, Minecraft.exe should default to 64-bit Java. If you want to be sure, you can use a batch file to launch it.
#1983 [17:22] <Wug> no idea. in any case, on no system I have access to (this one, win7 pro x64, win vista x86, winxp pro x64, and winxp pro x86) have I ever been able to get the ge64 bit download without coaxing it
#1984 [17:22] <Wug> x64*
#1985 [17:22] <Wug> not ge64
#1986 [17:22] <funkeymunkeys> batch file.. ? :/
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#1988 [17:23] <Ryladine> wug: Know of an IRC for ubuntu help
#1989 [17:23] <Ryladine> ?
#1990 [17:23] <Wug> Ryladine: irc.freenode.net, #ubuntu
#1991 [17:24] <mib_j0sxsn> I have bought a new computer but when loggin in it is saying that we need to buy it again...It wont let me use my log in name and password.
#1992 [17:24] <Wug> I'm leaving for class. bbl
#1993 [17:24] <Ryladine> Thanks :) I have a feeling I'll be needing alot of help with it
#1994 [17:25] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat will launch Java 6 64-bit specifically with 1GB of memory allocated to Minecraft, up to 2GB max.
#1995 [17:26] <funkeymunkeys> kewl
#1996 [17:27] <funkeymunkeys> so i use that instead of the normal one then?
#1997 [17:27] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Place it where you placed Minecraft.exe and use it to launch Minecraft. It'll also give an errorlog.txt file if there's problems.
#1998 [17:27] <Ketsueki> mib_j0sxsn: try your username and password on the minecraft website.
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#2000 [17:28] <Sinned_Wolf> can someone help me? When i start up mc and log in and click to start my singleplayer world my screen goes black as if it is still trying to load then it flashes with a message and dissapears back into the black screen can someone help?
#2001 [17:28] <funkeymunkeys> gives me a black box with writing and says an error
#2002 [17:28] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Have you added any texture packs or mods?
#2003 [17:28] <mr_Makara> I'm in of some help
#2004 [17:29] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Did you place it in the same folder as Minecraft.exe ?
#2005 [17:29] <Sinned_Wolf> no i have not added any packs or mods
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#2007 [17:29] <funkeymunkeys> desktop?
#2008 [17:29] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Is that where Minecraft.exe is?
#2009 [17:29] <funkeymunkeys> yea
#2010 [17:29] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: Did you install this -- http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html
#2011 [17:30] <funkeymunkeys> OOPS nvm, i did it now
#2012 [17:30] <mr_Makara> My minecraft freezes on "Downloading packages" when i try to update it so i can't play it
#2013 [17:30] <mib_j0sxsn> ketsueki - I have tried loggin in and it is saying login failed...I know that the login and pass works becuase I was able to see my profile stuff...
#2014 [17:30] <funkeymunkeys> do i close that black box that pops up?
#2015 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_j0sxsn - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#2016 [17:31] <Thrae|pc> funkeymunkeys: When you go full-screen it'll be overlapped, and go away when you close Minecraft. You can also go into the Properties and change it so it starts Minimized.
#2017 [17:31] <Sinned_Wolf> threalpc no i have not added anything just the game
#2018 [17:31] <funkeymunkeys> ok
#2019 [17:31] <mr_Makara> Can someone help me?
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#2021 [17:31] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Are you using Windows?
#2022 [17:31] <Sinned_Wolf> yes i am
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#2024 [17:31] <Thrae|pc> mr_Makara: Can you use the browser Beta version?
#2025 [17:32] <Thrae|pc> ??> Sinned_Wolf win/reinst/bat
#2026 [17:32] <VoxelHead> Sinned_Wolf: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2027 [17:32] <VoxelHead> Sinned_Wolf: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#2028 [17:32] <mib_j0sxsn> i reloaded the launcher and it asked for login and pass ...this is where it said login fails.
#2029 [17:32] <cjsnow1> Hi. Need help. After I log in to Minecraft it shows a bunch of Lines and garbled stuff. What's wrong?
#2030 [17:32] <mr_Makara> Thrae|pc: Nope does the same as client does
#2031 [17:32] * cjsnow1 is on Linux Mint 9 and is using OpenJDK
#2031 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> mib_j0sxsn - Then change your password at the Profile page at minecraft.net and try again
#2032 [17:33] <funkeymunkeys> ok TY dude you helped ALOT
#2033 [17:33] <funkeymunkeys> love you man ;)
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#2036 [17:33] <funkeymunkeys> cya
#2037 [17:34] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: Try switching over to Sun Java
#2038 [17:34] <kermit> Hey, so this was the place minecraft dirrected me for help. when i start a game or load it the screen goes dark and i cant do any thing
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#2040 [17:34] <cjsnow1> K
#2041 [17:34] <mib_mzseq7> hi. my minecraft wont load!:( every time i try to play in browser, the screen turns either black or white. help!?
#2042 [17:34] <mib_j0sxsn> that is probably it...thx!
#2043 [17:34] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: Should be sun-java6-jre
#2044 [17:34] <cjsnow1> k
#2045 [17:35] <Thrae|pc> mr_Makara: Sounds like your Java is messed up. Using WIndows?
#2046 [17:35] <mr_Makara> Yes
#2047 [17:35] <mr_Makara> Windows 7
#2048 [17:35] <kermit> Hey, so this was the place minecraft dirrected me for help. when i start a game or load it the screen goes dark and i cant do any thing
#2049 [17:35] <kermit> Help?
#2050 [17:36] <Thrae|pc> mr_Makara: Go to Programs and Features and remove all the versions of Java found there, then reinstall from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#2051 [17:36] <kermit> k thanks
#2052 [17:36] <Thrae|pc> kermit: Did you install any mods or texture packs?
#2053 [17:36] <Thrae|pc> kermit: <kermit> k thanks <-- I was speaking to mr_Makara about reinstalling Java. Did you install any mods or texture packs?
#2054 [17:37] <cjsnow1> sun-java6 is already installed. Should I uninstall OpenJDK?
#2055 [17:37] <kermit> oh......no
#2056 [17:37] <Sinned_Wolf> @Voxel & @thrael nope it didnt work it did the same exact thing
#2057 [17:37] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: Yeah
#2058 [17:37] <cjsnow1> kk
#2059 [17:37] <Thrae|pc> kermit: OK, does the browser Beta version work?
#2060 [17:37] <kermit> once i tried downloading Win rar
#2061 [17:37] <kermit> no also
#2062 [17:38] <Thrae|pc> kermit: OK, next *would* be to reinstall Java like you thought I said ;)
#2063 [17:38] <kermit> ok ill try
#2064 [17:38] * cjsnow1 is un installin OpenJDK
#2064 [17:39] <cjsnow1> Let's try this again
#2065 [17:39] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: OK, go to Programs and Features and uninstall all versions of Java found there. Then install the offline version from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#2066 [17:39] <cjsnow1> Works! Thanks Thrae|pc
#2067 [17:40] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: Sure...it probably would work with OpenJDK installed, it's just that OpenJDK's version of java is first in your path, so you'd have to explicitly call Sun Java
#2068 [17:41] <Thrae|pc> But if you don't use OpenJDK then don't worry about it
#2069 [17:42] <Sinned_Wolf> @Thrae|pc which one from the link the online or offline?
#2070 [17:42] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Offline
#2071 [17:42] <TheNytangel> Wug
#2072 [17:42] <TheNytangel> I needeth you again for an IMPORTANT reason this time
#2073 [17:43] <TheNytangel> Wug?
#2074 [17:43] <TheNytangel> No!!!
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#2076 [17:45] <cjsnow1> Ah.
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#2078 [17:46] <Mr_Gamzee> Thrae|pc: Um it didn't work :/
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#2080 [17:47] <Thrae|pc> Mr_Gamzee: OK, are you running any security software (Internet Security, Firewall, etc.)?
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#2083 [17:48] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrae|pc shout i take off j2SE RE 5.o?
#2084 [17:49] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Yes. All versions of Java, then install Java 6 Update 27 from the link.
#2085 [17:49] <Sinned_Wolf> ok
#2086 [17:49] <Mr_Gamzee> Thrae|pc: Wait should i download the 64 bit one condering thats what my system is
#2087 [17:50] <Mr_Gamzee> Thrae|pc: Yes some programs
#2088 [17:51] <Thrae|pc> Mr_Gamzee: Disable your security software. And yes, you can install 64-bit Java.
#2089 [17:51] <Thrae|pc> Mr_Gamzee: Windows 64-bit can run both 32-bit and 64-bit Java.
#2090 [17:52] <Mr_Gamzee> Thrae|pc: Well they was already diabled :/ But does it matter if i have the 64 bit version
#2091 [17:52] <Mr_Gamzee> Thrae|pc: oh ok
#2092 [17:52] <Thrae|pc> Yes, the 64-bit version should run better
#2093 [17:53] <Mr_Gamzee> Well If i show you a screen shot would that help
#2094 [17:53] <Mr_Gamzee> ?
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#2096 [17:54] <Mr_Gamzee> :/
#2097 [17:54] <Mr_Gamzee> Well there goes my help
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#2100 [17:55] <frogaincia> Hello\
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#2102 [17:55] <frogaincia> Ummm
#2103 [17:56] <frogaincia> I have a question
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#2105 [17:56] <Mr_Gamzee> Hi....
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#2107 [17:56] <frogaincia> on minecraft
#2108 [17:56] <Mr_Gamzee> ?
#2109 [17:56] <frogaincia> i have
#2110 [17:56] <frogaincia> a question
#2111 [17:56] <frogaincia> about
#2112 [17:56] <cjsnow1> Why is it taking so long to break a tree block?
#2113 [17:56] <frogaincia> okay
#2114 [17:56] <frogaincia> well
#2115 [17:56] <frogaincia> i keep running out of memory in minecraft
#2116 [17:56] <frogaincia> for somereason
#2117 [17:57] <stomper> im running windows vista, the download links wont work, error message says cant DL file (for all links) im having to play in browser and it just crashed from memory issues..soo...
#2118 [17:57] <frogaincia> YEAH
#2119 [17:57] <stomper> advice?
#2120 [17:57] <frogaincia> ME TOO
#2121 [17:57] <frogaincia> i think the memory
#2122 [17:57] <frogaincia> in minecraft
#2123 [17:57] <frogaincia> is slightly glitched
#2124 [17:57] <frogaincia> cuz mine keeps running out
#2125 [17:57] <frogaincia> and its redonk
#2126 [17:57] <frogaincia> ...
#2127 [17:57] <Thrae> Mr_Gamzee: A screenshot wouldn't really help if all it's doing is failing to download packages.
#2128 [17:57] <Thrae> Mr_Gamzee: OK, have you ever gone into Safe Mode before?
#2129 [17:58] <stomper> havnt needed to?
#2130 [17:59] <mib_nagbpb> i have the game but it says "not premium user" when a try to play
#2131 [17:59] <cjsnow1> What're the Minimum Memory requirements for MC?
#2132 [17:59] <cjsnow1> CPU[-Single core AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (UP) clocked at 2211.094 Mhz-] Kernel[-2.6.32-33-generic i686-] Up[-1:35-] Mem[-942.9/1002.3MB-] HDD[-197.1GB(73.7% used)-] Procs[-176-] Client[-X-Chat 2.8.6-] inxi[-1.3.2-]
#2133 [17:59] <cjsnow1> CPU[-Single core AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (UP) clocked at 2211.094 Mhz-] Kernel[-2.6.32-33-generic i686-] Up[-1:35-] Mem[-941.6/1002.3MB-] HDD[-197.1GB(73.7% used)-] Procs[-176-] Client[-X-Chat 2.8.6-] inxi[-1.3.2-]
#2134 [17:59] <cjsnow1> woops
#2135 [18:00] <Kealper> my spamtroll alarm just went crazy there
#2136 [18:00] <frogaincia> well
#2137 [18:00] <frogaincia> thanks guys
#2138 [18:00] <stomper> considering its a 16 bit game...still in beta, not very much. but apparently more then java can handle on the browser
#2139 [18:00] <frogaincia> ;_;
#2140 [18:00] <Kealper> it isn't a 16-bit game
#2141 [18:00] <Kealper> and it's really hard on computers
#2142 [18:00] <Kealper> bah
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#2144 [18:01] * cjsnow1 sighs
#2144 [18:01] <stomper> anyone know a fix for the broken DL: files? my problem would most likely be solved if i could run minecraft from my hard drive
#2145 [18:01] <strangef8> sooo, this is the support channel?
#2146 [18:02] <TheNoodle> That it is strangef8.
#2147 [18:02] <Thrae> Mr_Gamzee: O
#2148 [18:02] <Thrae> Mr_Gamzee: I'm the same guy. Have you ever gone into Safe Mode?
#2149 [18:02] <strangef8> awesome. i was just wondering if anyone else is having issues logging into minecraft?
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#2152 [18:03] <srsfiter_> hello there
#2153 [18:03] <stomper> safe mode....i have never had to, why?
#2154 [18:03] <srsfiter_> me and a friend are getting error logged in from another location errors
#2155 [18:03] <srsfiter_> we are using seperate accounts
#2156 [18:03] <strangef8> ah. i just get a generic log in error when i try, it's been doing it for some time.
#2157 [18:03] <srsfiter_> nvm
#2158 [18:03] <srsfiter_> my friends a dunce
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#2160 [18:04] <srsfiter_> he didnt read that I logged in on his PC
#2161 [18:04] <srsfiter_> trololol
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#2163 [18:04] <strangef8> brb
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#2165 [18:05] <Snowshoe> So who knows about white-lists?
#2166 [18:05] <cjsnow1> Is there like, I dunno, a lighter version of the client?
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#2168 [18:05] <cjsnow1> It eats too much Memory.
#2169 [18:06] <Thrae|pc> Blargh
#2170 [18:07] <cjsnow1> Blargh?
#2171 [18:08] <Thrae|pc> Just a problem on my server, that's all...do you have a problem, cjsnow1?
#2172 [18:08] <strangef8> back
#2173 [18:08] <mib_nagbpb> can smone help me
#2174 [18:08] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrae|pc ok so uninstalled all the old jave and installed the one you said now what
#2175 [18:08] <cjsnow1> Yeah. Is there a way to speed the game up?
#2176 [18:08] <Thrae|pc> mib_nagbpb: What's your problem
#2177 [18:08] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: OK, you were using....Linux? Windows? Mac?
#2178 [18:09] <cjsnow1> Linux Mint 9
#2179 [18:09] <cjsnow1> CPU[-Single core AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (UP) clocked at 2211.094 Mhz-] Kernel[-2.6.32-33-generic i686-] Up[-1:44-] Mem[-320.3/1002.3MB-] HDD[-197.1GB(73.7% used)-] Procs[-175-] Client[-X-Chat 2.8.6-] inxi[-1.3.2-]
#2180 [18:09] <mib_nagbpb> i have minecraft
#2181 [18:09] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: What's the command you're using
#2182 [18:09] <mib_nagbpb> but it say
#2183 [18:09] <mib_nagbpb> not premium user
#2184 [18:09] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Try again
#2185 [18:09] <cjsnow1> the one I just posted? /exec -o inxi
#2186 [18:09] <cjsnow1> or to launch it?
#2187 [18:09] <Thrae|pc> mib_nagbpb: How long ago did you submit payment?
#2188 [18:09] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: No, to run Minecraft
#2189 [18:09] <Sinned_Wolf> ok
#2190 [18:10] <mib_nagbpb> last night
#2191 [18:10] <Thrae|pc> ?? payment
#2192 [18:10] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#2193 [18:10] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#2194 [18:10] <Thrae|pc> mib_nagbpb: Can take up to 5 business days.
#2195 [18:10] <cjsnow1> this: java -Xmx512M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2196 [18:11] <Sinned_Wolf> same thing
#2197 [18:11] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: OK, the "Xmx" is the maximum and "Xms" is the minimum RAM to allocate. You can fiddle with those settings if you have more RAM to give it.
#2198 [18:11] <Snowshoe> So my friend has me white-listed on their server, but when I try to connect it tells me that I'm not white-listed. Anyone have any ideas?
#2199 [18:11] <mib_nagbpb> wow thanx that a looooooooooong time for a game but then agen its MINECRAFT
#2200 [18:12] <cjsnow1> I do. Even with that it still eats the rest of my RAM.
#2201 [18:12] <Thrae|pc> mib_nagbpb: Usually just takes one day, which is typical when they need to process payment by hand, but it can take more.
#2202 [18:12] <cjsnow1> say this:java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2203 [18:12] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: What's the highest you've seen Java use?
#2204 [18:13] <Thrae|pc> Snowshoe: They probably just didn't add you right.
#2205 [18:13] <Sinned_Wolf> thrael|pc nope it still gave me the same thing
#2206 [18:13] <cjsnow1> Ummm. I hardly (if ever) use Java.
#2207 [18:13] <cjsnow1> So I wouldn't know
#2208 [18:13] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Yeah I saw. Hmmm...OK, give us your DxDiag info
#2209 [18:13] <strangef8> is the newest java update covered?
#2210 [18:13] <Thrae|pc> ??> Sinned_Wolf win/dxdiag
#2211 [18:13] <VoxelHead> Sinned_Wolf: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2212 [18:13] <VoxelHead> Sinned_Wolf: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2213 [18:13] <Snowshoe> that's what I thought, but they just double checked it and it's on there...
#2214 [18:13] <Thrae|pc> strangef8: The latest recommended Java build is Java 6 Update 27.
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#2216 [18:14] <strangef8> thx
#2217 [18:14] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: Well, you said "Java eats my RAM", so you're just noticing your free RAM going down while playing Minecraft and not how much it's actually using?
#2218 [18:15] <cjsnow1> Yes?
#2219 [18:15] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: OK, how much total RAM does this system have and how much is free right now?
#2220 [18:15] <cjsnow1> CPU[-Single core AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (UP) clocked at 2211.094 Mhz-] Kernel[-2.6.32-33-generic i686-] Up[-1:51-] Mem[-376.8/1002.3MB-] HDD[-197.1GB(73.7% used)-] Procs[-175-] Client[-X-Chat 2.8.6-] inxi[-1.3.2-]
#2221 [18:15] <cjsnow1> 376 used 1002 total.
#2222 [18:16] <srsfiter_> CJ
#2223 [18:16] <cjsnow1> sorry
#2224 [18:16] <srsfiter_> do u have a modded client
#2225 [18:16] <srsfiter_> modded clients eat more ram
#2226 [18:16] <cjsnow1> oh.
#2227 [18:16] <srsfiter_> and despite that, u need lots more RAM
#2228 [18:16] * cjsnow1 sighs
#2228 [18:16] <srsfiter_> that is an absolutely pathetic amount
#2229 [18:16] <srsfiter_> I have 6GB
#2230 [18:17] <mib_nagbpb> wat do those tall black mobs do?
#2231 [18:17] <cjsnow1> This PC's old as heck.
#2232 [18:17] <srsfiter_> they lift blocks mib
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#2234 [18:17] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: Yeah, so you have 1002MB total, or roughly 1GB total. You only have 376MB free, which is less than the 512MB you're trying to allocate. Are you using any mods or texture packs?
#2235 [18:17] <srsfiter_> aha I bet CJ
#2236 [18:17] <mib_nagbpb> that all?
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#2239 [18:17] <alexistough> hrlp
#2240 [18:17] <srsfiter_> and they get hostile when u look them in the eye
#2241 [18:17] <cjsnow1> no.
#2242 [18:17] <srsfiter_> beware, they grief
#2243 [18:17] <alexistough> Help
#2244 [18:18] <Thrae|pc> mib_nagbpb: They are hostile mobs which will teleport over to you and attack you if you look at their face unless you're wearing a Pumpkin Helmnet.
#2245 [18:18] <alexistough> Can someone help me with an error
#2246 [18:18] <srsfiter_> alex
#2247 [18:18] <mib_nagbpb> and wat that thing thay drop?
#2248 [18:18] <alexistough> Yes
#2249 [18:18] <srsfiter_> tell me the error and I will do my best
#2250 [18:18] <Sinned_Wolf> @Voxelhead & @thrae|pc http://pastebin.com/4cWWCd1J
#2251 [18:18] <alexistough> Minecraft has run out of memory
#2252 [18:18] <srsfiter_> first question, are you using any mods
#2253 [18:18] <alexistough> Ni
#2254 [18:18] <srsfiter_> or texture packs
#2255 [18:18] <alexistough> No
#2256 [18:19] <alexistough> Nope
#2257 [18:19] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: Well the reason it's running out of memory is that Minecraft will try to allocate at least 512MB. You can force it down to 256MB but it'll run pretty slow.
#2258 [18:19] <srsfiter_> second question, please tell me the CPU model and amount of RAM currently installed
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#2260 [18:19] <cjsnow1> It's already running slow.
#2261 [18:19] <alexistough> 8 gb of ram and i7
#2262 [18:19] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: Yeah, it's running out of memory. That's why it's so slow.
#2263 [18:19] <srsfiter_> okay alex
#2264 [18:19] <cjsnow1> ah.
#2265 [18:20] <srsfiter_> from my experience
#2266 [18:20] <srsfiter_> your best bet is to reinstall java
#2267 [18:20] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Wow, your computer is ancient
#2268 [18:20] <alexistough> how do I do that?
#2269 [18:20] <Sinned_Wolf> lol yes yes it is
#2270 [18:21] <srsfiter_> okay I am going to say this to everyone
#2271 [18:21] * cjsnow1 listens
#2271 [18:21] <srsfiter_> minecraft requires at least 512MB of memory to run smoothly
#2272 [18:21] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: I'll look for updated drivers for your graphics but there's a good chance it'll run slow
#2273 [18:21] <srsfiter_> meaning it uses about 512MB
#2274 [18:21] <srsfiter_> U need 1.5GB at least to have it run correctly
#2275 [18:21] <alexistough> How do I reinstall java
#2276 [18:22] * cjsnow1 gets the official client
#2276 [18:22] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrael|pc IF its my graphics that needs to be redone im supposed to be getting a new video card here soon and i dont think that me current graphics will have a update
#2277 [18:22] <srsfiter_> NO
#2278 [18:22] <srsfiter_> it is not
#2279 [18:22] <srsfiter_> you have insufficient memory
#2280 [18:23] <srsfiter_> my aunt has 2GB installed, minecraft runs smooth on her PC
#2281 [18:23] <srsfiter_> I have 6GB
#2282 [18:23] <Thrae|pc> srsfiter_: Sinned_Wolf's problem is a black screen -- this is most likely graphics related
#2283 [18:23] <alexistough> srsfiter How do I reinstall java
#2284 [18:23] <srsfiter_> it is also memory related
#2285 [18:23] <srsfiter_> alex
#2286 [18:23] <alexistough> Yes
#2287 [18:24] <strangef8> java.com
#2288 [18:24] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: To get Minecraft, or any game, to run well on that computer you'll have to upgrade the RAM as well\
#2289 [18:24] <srsfiter_> no strange
#2290 [18:24] <neersighted> Go to Remove/uninstall programs.
#2291 [18:24] <cjsnow1> So now I want to play offline but it says not downloaded. Now what?
#2292 [18:24] <neersighted> Remove java.
#2293 [18:24] <srsfiter_> stop everyone
#2294 [18:24] <strangef8> ah he hadn't removed it yet.
#2295 [18:24] <srsfiter_> alex search java SE 7
#2296 [18:24] <neersighted> And download the newest Java2SE
#2297 [18:24] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: You have to login first
#2298 [18:24] <cjsnow1> I did.
#2299 [18:24] <srsfiter_> install it for a 64 bit OS
#2300 [18:24] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrae|pc yes i would think that i would need more Ram
#2301 [18:25] <Thrae|pc> ??< pci/database
#2302 [18:25] <srsfiter_> Sinned, have you tried deleting .minecraft
#2303 [18:25] <Sinned_Wolf> yes
#2304 [18:25] <Sinned_Wolf> srsfilter_ yes i have
#2305 [18:25] <srsfiter_> yeah I apologize for jumping to conclusions
#2306 [18:25] <Sinned_Wolf> its okay
#2307 [18:25] <srsfiter_> you more than likely need a new GPU
#2308 [18:25] <srsfiter_> as you have said
#2309 [18:25] <srsfiter_> do you have PCIe?
#2310 [18:26] <Sinned_Wolf> yes i have one slot for it but not enough money to buy a card for it
#2311 [18:26] <srsfiter_> Sinned, I will PM you, I know of a decent quality brand for about $45
#2312 [18:26] <Sinned_Wolf> ok
#2313 [18:26] <cjsnow1> How do I download the whole game so I can play off-line?
#2314 [18:27] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Yeah there's no newer driver for that integrated GPU. Before we send you away, let's try this....
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#2316 [18:28] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Download http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/experimental/minecraft_nogpu.bat and place it in the same directory/folder as Minecraft.exe, then run the batch file.
#2317 [18:28] <Evan> Hey I downloaded a mod pack and got this error message: --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 2a41476d --------
#2318 [18:28] <alexistough> What do I download?
#2319 [18:28] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrae|pc http://miburl.com/Ropru7 thats the car im supposed to be getting and okay
#2320 [18:29] <alexistough> Srs what do I download?
#2321 [18:29] <srsfiter> Alex
#2322 [18:29] <alexistough> yes
#2323 [18:29] <srsfiter> you must download Java SE 7 for a 64 bit operating system
#2324 [18:29] <srsfiter> I presume you have Windows 7 Home Premium Edition x64
#2325 [18:29] <Thrae|pc> srsfiter: We recommend Java 6 64-bit
#2326 [18:29] <srsfiter> am I correct?
#2327 [18:29] <Evan> hey i need help
#2328 [18:29] <alexistough> so jdk-7-windows-x64.exe
#2329 [18:29] <alexistough> this?
#2330 [18:29] <Thrae|pc> :j
#2331 [18:29] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#2332 [18:29] <srsfiter> Thrae in my experience all my friends crashed with Java SE 6
#2333 [18:30] <srsfiter> I had them get Java SE 7 and it was then smooth
#2334 [18:30] <mib_nagbpb> wen it says "not premium user" under that it says "not downloaded" wat that mean cuz i got the game
#2335 [18:30] <srsfiter> yes alex
#2336 [18:30] <Thrae|pc> srsfiter: Everyone here has used Java 6 64-bit fine, and we always recommend it as Java 7 has known problems with Minecraft.
#2337 [18:30] <srsfiter> it does not
#2338 [18:30] <Thrae|pc> It does according to the ops here, srsfiter
#2339 [18:30] <alexistough> brb
#2340 [18:30] <srsfiter> I use it, and my computer is the most stable unit when it comes to minecraft in m experience
#2341 [18:31] <Evan> can anyone here interp my error message
#2342 [18:31] <srsfiter> I do not want to argue, I am merely working off of my own experience
#2343 [18:31] <Thrae|pc> It's also stable on my computer with Java 7, but that doesn't mean it will be stable on everyone's computer
#2344 [18:31] <mib_nagbpb> ok ok we get it!
#2345 [18:31] <srsfiter> alex has a unit with similar specs to mine, a more high end unit if you will, I think he can run minecraft more stable with 7 because of this
#2346 [18:32] <Evan> can anyone help me with my error message?
#2347 [18:32] <Thrae|pc> mib_nagbpb: How long ago did you purchase Minecraft? Did you get a confirmation email?
#2348 [18:32] <mib_nagbpb> last night ang no email
#2349 [18:32] <Thrae|pc> ??> Evan mods
#2350 [18:32] <VoxelHead> Evan: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#2351 [18:32] <VoxelHead> Evan: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
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#2353 [18:32] <Thrae|pc> Evan: Most likely one of the mods in the pack isn't updated for 1.8.x
#2354 [18:32] <cjsnow1> So you have to buy it even if you want to play offline?
#2355 [18:33] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1 , mib_nagbpb : Yes you have to buy Minecraft to play it offline, because you have to login to download it.
#2356 [18:33] <Evan> i am using a clean 1.7.3 it gave a block id error i think
#2357 [18:33] <Thrae|pc> Evan: Well either way we don't help with mods here
#2358 [18:33] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrae|pc where do i find the Minecraft.exe folder
#2359 [18:34] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Wherever your Minecraft.exe is located
#2360 [18:34] <Sinned_Wolf> would it be the .minecraft folder?
#2361 [18:34] <Thrae|pc> Is it on your desktop? Where'd you put it?
#2362 [18:34] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrae|pc yes its on my desktop
#2363 [18:34] <cjsnow1> Wish I had 10 bucks. Me and my poor self. Ah well. Thanks for all your help Thrae|pc
#2364 [18:34] <Thrae|pc> Then put the batch file on your desktop
#2365 [18:34] <mib_nagbpb> i did buy the game
#2366 [18:34] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: You're free to play Classic in your browser
#2367 [18:34] <mib_nagbpb> i did buy the game
#2368 [18:34] <cjsnow1> Meh. It's just not the same.
#2369 [18:35] <Thrae|pc> mib_nagbpb: You didn't get the confirmation email yet, though, so they haven't processed payment and upgraded you to a Premium user.
#2370 [18:35] <mib_nagbpb> wow that some lag email thay got
#2371 [18:35] <strangef8> aaaand, fixed.
#2372 [18:36] <Thrae|pc> mib_nagbpb: They're in a far different time zone. One business day is typical when you don't have the process automated.
#2373 [18:36] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrae|pc ok so i ran it now what
#2374 [18:36] <Sinned_Wolf> start mc?
#2375 [18:36] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: The batch file should start Minecraft.
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#2377 [18:37] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Did it launch Minecraft? Try re-downloading the batch file -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/experimental/minecraft_nogpu.bat
#2378 [18:37] <alexistough> thank you
#2379 [18:38] <Sinned_Wolf> hmm well it doesnt but the cmd prompt flashes up then dissaperd
#2380 [18:38] <alexistough> I will be back if I have any proplems
#2381 [18:38] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: That means you didn't place it where Minecraft.exe is located.
#2382 [18:38] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Either way, try re-downloading.
#2383 [18:38] <Sinned_Wolf> i placed it on my desktop where the Minecraft.exe is
#2384 [18:39] <kermit> My son has purchased minecraft and I can"t get itb to run on three different computers, all give me the open gl driver issue. Please help me get past this!! Have XP one two, Windows 7 on another.
#2385 [18:39] <strangef8> thanks guys :D
#2386 [18:40] <Thrae|pc> kermit: OK, are you at one of the computers you wish to troubleshoot?
#2387 [18:40] <cjsnow1> If I DL this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/classic/minecraft.jar I can play Classic outside of Chrome, right?
#2388 [18:40] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrae|pc ok so i redownloaded now just past it to my dektop?
#2389 [18:40] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: Not sure
#2390 [18:40] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Yes
#2391 [18:41] <kermit> yes, win 7 sony vaio laptop
#2392 [18:42] <Thrae|pc> kermit: Are they all laptops?
#2393 [18:42] <Thrae|pc> ??> kermit win/dxdiag
#2394 [18:42] <VoxelHead> kermit: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2395 [18:42] <VoxelHead> kermit: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2397 [18:42] <kermit> no, this is only one, would rather fix pc's
#2398 [18:42] <Thrae|pc> kermit: ^^^^ Follow those instructions so we can take a look at your gaming hardware.
#2399 [18:42] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrae|pc nope it just did it again
#2400 [18:42] <cjsnow1> Could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. Program will exit.
#2401 [18:43] <cjsnow1> darn it.
#2402 [18:43] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: Try just -jar minecraft.jar instead of -cp blah.jar blahblah
#2403 [18:43] <cjsnow1> ok
#2404 [18:43] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Yeah OK, not sure if it's your memory or your GPU then
#2405 [18:43] <mib_jbg0y8> I a trying to get the classic version but wouldnt work
#2406 [18:43] <Sinned_Wolf> think it could be both?
#2407 [18:44] <mib_jbg0y8> It said Fatal error 4
#2408 [18:45] <cjsnow1> The program 'jar' can be found in the following packages: * openjdk-6-jdk * fastjar * gcj-4.4-jdk * gcj-4.3 Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
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#2411 [18:45] <mib_nagbpb> AHHHH i burnd my hand ot my coffie
#2412 [18:45] <cjsnow1> I just un0installed openJDK
#2413 [18:45] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Could be both, yes. Minecraft is more memory-intensive then it is GPU-intensive, but it needs a GPU that at least understands OpenGL 1.3 (OpenGL 1.2 for 1.9-pre), which is a technology from ~1999
#2414 [18:46] <Thrae|pc> mib_jbg0y8: Try a different browser
#2415 [18:46] <blesker> hmmm....not sure if I should be here to try to get this fixed or not (spotted the link in a support thread for folks having issues with logins)
#2416 [18:46] <blesker> I can't log in anymore
#2417 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> blesker - Login Failed?
#2418 [18:46] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: What's the exact command you're using?
#2419 [18:46] <blesker> purchased Minecraft in Feb of this year
#2420 [18:46] <blesker> yep
#2421 [18:46] <cjsnow1> jar "minecraft classic.jar"
#2422 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> blesker - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#2423 [18:46] <mib_jbg0y8> i am using google chrome
#2424 [18:46] <blesker> just searched my gmail, and found the trans ID
#2425 [18:46] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrae|pc do you think if i use disdefrag and regedit i could free up some memory
#2426 [18:46] <blesker> yeah - I tried that new launcher - same result
#2427 [18:46] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: java -jar "minecraft classic.jar"
#2428 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> blesker - Are you able to log into the website?
#2429 [18:47] <cjsnow1> oh ok
#2430 [18:47] <blesker> when I run it offline it gives me an "unlicensed" or something like that
#2431 [18:47] <blesker> um...hmmm - will check
#2432 [18:47] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Probably not.
#2433 [18:47] <cjsnow1> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from
#2434 [18:47] <cjsnow1> minecraft classic.jar
#2435 [18:47] <blesker> nope - can't
#2436 [18:47] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrae|pc what about uninstalling things that i dont use very much anymore?
#2437 [18:48] <blesker> says my email addy isn't good
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#2439 [18:48] <Thrae|pc> Sinned_Wolf: Even if you did, Windows and other programs are probably going to eat up at least 512MB (probably more) so you'll still be starving Minecraft.
#2440 [18:48] <blesker> but I have an email from majong on Feb 17 showing the purchase
#2441 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> blesker - Then try recovering your password?
#2442 [18:48] <blesker> yep
#2443 [18:48] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: Does the file "minecraft classic.jar" exist?
#2444 [18:48] <blesker> tried that - but it doesn't recognize the email addy, though I know it was valid to the system as that's where my purchase confirmation was sent
#2445 [18:48] <cjsnow1> yeah.
#2446 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> blesker - http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword -- just input your username there
#2447 [18:49] <Thrae|pc> blesker: Do you have any other email accounts you may have used since February?
#2448 [18:49] <cjsnow1> according to the "ls" command it does.
#2449 [18:49] <blesker> yeah - just saw and tried that
#2450 [18:49] <blesker> success when I just used my name
#2451 [18:49] <mib_jbg0y8> does any one know what to do?
#2452 [18:49] <Thrae|pc> cjsnow1: Well I'm not sure then -- the official way is through the browser
#2453 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> blesker - Then you should get an email to the address you registered under
#2454 [18:50] <blesker> well, I say success; no email sent to me - to either my gmail addy or the other addy I might have used
#2455 [18:50] <blesker> is this common for hacked accounts?
#2456 [18:50] <cjsnow1> Hacked?
#2457 [18:50] * cjsnow1 laughs
#2457 [18:50] <Thrae|pc> mib_jbg0y8: Did you try a different browser?
#2458 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> It isn't possibile to change email addresses
#2459 [18:50] <blesker> doh - disregard - email just came thru
#2460 [18:50] <Sinned_Wolf> Thrae|pc ok well thanks for the help anyways might be back in here if it keeps going on
#2461 [18:51] * cjsnow1 will be back when he has 10 bucks and a better PC.
#2461 [18:51] <blesker> off to see if that fixed it - thanks for trying to point me in the right direction GreyV
#2462 [18:51] <cjsnow1> Later all. Thanks again for the help Thrae|pc
#2463 [18:51] <blesker> and it worked - thanks again
#2464 [18:51] <blesker> cya
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#2469 [18:53] <kermi> I cant log into a server I like. Whenever I went on for the past few days, I would stay on for about 20 seconds and then it would crash. Now today I cant log in at all. The last thing I was doing on the server was experimenting with spawning monster spawners into my inventory by typing /i 52:2 or /i 52:3 ect. Could that have something to do with it?
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#2472 [18:53] <mib_nagbpb> is there a way to see if i did buy the game?
#2473 [18:54] <Thrae|pc> kermi: Yes your player data could be corrupt. Can you login and play on other servers?
#2474 [18:54] <kermi> Yes i can
#2475 [18:54] <leeps291> im getting the message minecraft ran out or memory still
#2476 [18:54] <Thrae|pc> mib_nagbpb: Well, you could check your issuing bank and see if the money was actually credited from your account.
#2477 [18:54] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: OK, what's your total memory?
#2478 [18:54] <leeps291> 16 gb ram
#2479 [18:55] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat will always use Java 64-bit and go up to 2GB, which you can change to whatever you want
#2480 [18:56] <mib_nagbpb> how long shoud it tak to show up on my bank
#2481 [18:56] <leeps291> could not create java virtual machine
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#2483 [18:57] <Thrae|pc> mib_nagbpb: If it was a debit it should be instant. If it was a credit card it may take a few hours to a day depending on the card.
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#2485 [18:57] <kermi> Can someone answer me please?
#2486 [18:57] <Thrae|pc> ??> leeps291 win/dxdiag
#2487 [18:57] <VoxelHead> leeps291: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2488 [18:57] <VoxelHead> leeps291: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2489 [18:57] <Thrae|pc> kermi: Sorry, I thought the answer was implied...your player data is corrupt and will have to be deleted on the server
#2490 [18:57] <mib_nagbpb> k thx
#2491 [18:57] <kermi> oh
#2492 [18:57] <kermi> is there any way to fix it
#2493 [18:58] <guest-0-63691> how do i start to play minecraft please help
#2494 [18:58] <Thrae|pc> kermi: Yes, by deleting your player data file on the server
#2495 [18:58] <kermi> how do i do that?
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#2497 [18:59] <Thrae|pc> kermi: Need to have access to the server's files
#2498 [18:59] <guest-0-63691> help me please
#2499 [18:59] <Thrae|pc> guest-0-63691: Minecraft Beta or Classic?
#2500 [18:59] <guest-0-63691> either one i dont care
#2501 [19:00] <kermi> so if i could get ahold of the admin, she might be able to fix it?
#2502 [19:00] <Thrae|pc> guest-0-63691: To play Classic just to go www.minecraft.net and click on Classic -- it's free. Or did you purchase Minecraft?
#2503 [19:00] <Thrae|pc> kermi: Yeah, just needs to delete your player's file in the world folder/directory under "players"
#2504 [19:00] <guest-0-63691> no i didnt but thank you you really helped
#2505 [19:00] <mib_nagbpb> on the web it say i buy the game but not on my bank
#2506 [19:01] <kermi> will I have to create a new account?
#2507 [19:01] <Thrae|pc> mib_nagbpb: Then Moneybrokers/Paypal lied (had a transaction error), or you used a different payment source.
#2508 [19:01] <Thrae|pc> kermi: No, this is server-side only (what items your player has, their XP, various server-specific settings)
#2509 [19:02] <kermi> ok
#2510 [19:02] <kermi> i also donated to get benefits
#2511 [19:02] <Thrae|pc> So they should treat you well
#2512 [19:02] <leeps291> http://pastebin.com/Dm6kqALZ
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#2514 [19:03] <kermi> could she give them back when my file is deleted?
#2515 [19:03] <Thrae|pc> kermi: Only manually using the /item or /give command
#2516 [19:03] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: You gave me only the bottom-half of the file. I need the top half.
#2517 [19:04] <kermi> no i mean i donated so i can spawn items. Will i get that back?
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#2520 [19:04] <Thrae|pc> kermi: That's almost always independent of your player data for a specific world
#2521 [19:05] <kermi> oh
#2522 [19:05] <malikthedog> I just paid to download and I not sure what to do....I downloaded the windows and then tried to download for a quick launch the multiplayer beta and dont get anywhere....where do I start?
#2523 [19:05] <Thrae|pc> When I say "almost always", I don't know of anything that makes it specific
#2524 [19:05] <kermi> the server also has lockette. will i still have the protected things?
#2525 [19:05] <leeps291> http://pastebin.com/6NiFiLFL try that
#2526 [19:06] <leeps291> it should do it
#2527 [19:06] <Thrae|pc> malikthedog: Just paid, as in right now? They process the payment by hand and they're a tiny, tiny company so it takes time -- a few hours to up to 5 business days.
#2528 [19:07] <Thrae|pc> kermi: That *MIGHT* be reset. I'm not sure. But this isn't really a fixable problem unless they have backups of your player data.
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#2530 [19:07] <xales> Err, 5 business days?
#2531 [19:07] <xales> It's almost always 24 hours or less, or your payment failed in some way
#2532 [19:07] <xales> possibly you think you made it and you didn't, or your bank stopped it
#2533 [19:07] <xales> etc
#2534 [19:07] <kermi> what if they re-promote me?
#2535 [19:07] <malikthedog> Thank you Thraejpc and xales.....it was about a hour ago.
#2536 [19:07] <Thrae|pc> xales: minecraft.net/support says you must wait for 5 business days before contacting them, so that's what I'm going on.
#2537 [19:08] <xales> Thrae|pc: ah, okay. I'm not up to date on these things
#2538 [19:08] <Thrae|pc> kermi: Won't fix a corrupt player file
#2539 [19:09] <kermi> i mean if they delete my file and then promote me
#2540 [19:09] <Thrae|pc> kermi: That won't fix lost Lockette data of already locked chests
#2541 [19:10] <kermi> ok
#2542 [19:10] <kermi> i have to go. thank you
#2543 [19:11] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: OK, I guess that page doesn't show actual FREE memory, sorry. What does Task Manager say for free memory?
#2544 [19:11] <Blahound> Does anybody know why my client refuses to sign in since 1
#2545 [19:11] <Blahound> 1.8.1 was released*
#2546 [19:11] <xales> Blahound: Are you using the latest launcher?
#2547 [19:11] <Blahound> yeah
#2548 [19:11] <Thrae|pc> Blahound: You have an out-of-date launcher -- they released a new one about a month ago. You can download it off the Minecraft website.
#2549 [19:11] <dect11> hey this AuBot said "MINECRAFT WILL WORK AGAIN FOR YOU AGAIN IN1.9!" whats that supposto mean!?!?!?
#2550 [19:11] <Blahound> i downloaded it 3 times since it stopped working :/
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#2552 [19:12] <leeps291> free is 10799
#2553 [19:12] <Blahound> it works in browser and it works on Ubuntu
#2554 [19:12] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: Is that in KB or MB?
#2555 [19:12] <leeps291> mb
#2556 [19:12] <xales> dect11: If you have a Mac, you cannot use the version it mentions
#2557 [19:12] <Blahound> only my windows client wont connect to mc.net
#2558 [19:12] <xales> (and you aren't running Lion)
#2559 [19:12] <Thrae|pc> Blahound: Hmm, maybe the locally installed are corrupt
#2560 [19:12] <Thrae|pc> ??> Blahound win/reinst/bat
#2561 [19:12] <dect11> how do i find out???
#2562 [19:13] <VoxelHead> Blahound: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2563 [19:13] <VoxelHead> Blahound: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#2564 [19:13] <Thrae|pc> dect11: If it's not working for you, just try 1.9-pre and see if it starts working again.
#2565 [19:13] <xales> dect11: Do you, or do you not, have a Mac...?
#2566 [19:13] <dect11> how do i get that???
#2567 [19:13] <Thrae|pc> dect11: If it does, you can also try the fix it listed for 1.8.x
#2568 [19:14] <leeps291> my version says 1.8.1
#2569 [19:14] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: "x" being any number
#2570 [19:14] <leeps291> oh
#2571 [19:14] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: I'm not sure why Java is failing for you...are you sure you have it in the directory with Minecraft.exe ?
#2572 [19:15] <leeps291> no
#2573 [19:15] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: Needs to be wherever Minecraft.exe is, and Minecraft.exe has no set location
#2574 [19:16] <leeps291> i cant open minecraft.exe its an application and just lodes the login
#2575 [19:16] <xales> leeps291: That...would be opening it
#2576 [19:17] <Blahound> batch file didnt fix it :(
#2577 [19:17] <leeps291> im trying to open file location
#2578 [19:17] <dect11> no i dont have a mac this piece of junk is a windows
#2579 [19:18] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: If you can't do "open file location" then it's not a shortcut, it's the real file.
#2580 [19:19] <xales> dect11: Then what AuBot said does not apply to you
#2581 [19:19] <Thrae|pc> dect11: Well if it's the same problem Mac users are having (lack of OpenGL 1.3 compatibility) then it still applies, but only in that one case
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#2583 [19:20] <leeps291> so how do i put that file in minecraft.exe
#2584 [19:20] <dect11> :( *waaaaaaa* stupid piece of junk this cpu is
#2585 [19:20] <Thrae|pc> It's aimed at Mac users since the Macbook with Intel chipset and 10.5.8 was VERY popular as it was very affordable
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#2587 [19:20] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: Is Minecraft.exe on your desktop?
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#2590 [19:21] <Blahound> no other ideas? :(
#2591 [19:21] <Thrae|pc> dect11: Unless you're just having problems with Minecraft running *slow* then it's most likely not your CPU
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#2593 [19:21] <leeps291> no i dont see minecraft.exe anywhere
#2594 [19:21] <username> so i re istalled minecraft And java and everytime i hit play or start a game it gose to a black screen! :(
#2595 [19:21] <Thrae|pc> Blahound: OK, do you have any security software -- internet protection, firewall, etc.?
#2596 [19:21] <Blahound> its not blocked
#2597 [19:21] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: Minecraft.exe is what you are *currently* opening to run Minecraft.
#2598 [19:21] <Thrae|pc> Blahound: Disable said security software outright.
#2599 [19:22] <leeps291> ok#
#2600 [19:22] <username> ?
#2601 [19:22] <leeps291> then yes its on desktop
#2602 [19:22] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: So, if that's on your desktop, then the batch file needs to be on your desktop.
#2603 [19:22] <Thrae|pc> username: Any mods or texture packs installed?
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#2605 [19:22] <username> no
#2606 [19:23] <Thrae|pc> username: Does the browser Beta version work?
#2607 [19:23] <username> no
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#2609 [19:23] <username> :(
#2610 [19:23] <dect11> yes this cpu does run slow but it pops up a error massage that appers for a millionth of a second LITTRULY
#2611 [19:24] <Thrae|pc> dect11: It's almost certainly not your CPU then. Does the error happen immediately?
#2612 [19:24] <leeps291> ok there both on my desktop
#2613 [19:24] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: OK, the batch file should work now.
#2614 [19:24] <leeps291> ok thx
#2615 [19:24] <Thrae|pc> ??> username win/dxdiag
#2616 [19:24] <VoxelHead> username: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2617 [19:24] <VoxelHead> username: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2618 [19:25] <username> uh hold on
#2619 [19:25] <leeps291> 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
#2620 [19:25] <leeps291> operable program or batch file.
#2621 [19:25] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: OK, go into Computer, then Local Disk (C:), then Program Files. Do you have "Java"?
#2622 [19:25] <zenon> Has any figured out how to get around the blue screen. It only pops up when i try playing the classic single player game. No other game on my laptop causes this issue, only minecraft. I reinstalled java and my video card too. That did not help.
#2623 [19:26] <Thrae|pc> zenon: You get a Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) when you play Minecraft Classic?
#2624 [19:26] <username> IRC channle?
#2625 [19:26] <zenon> yeah, and onlt minecraft
#2626 [19:26] <Thrae|pc> username: What you're talking on right now
#2627 [19:26] <leeps291> yes i have java
#2628 [19:26] <dect11> when i start to play my world and no like 5sec and i recorded it but after i stopped i looked @ it and i couldnt make out what it said
#2629 [19:26] <leeps291> this is hard
#2630 [19:27] <zenon> starcraft II works fine, WoW works fine, Company of heros, portal 2, and everything else works perfect.
#2631 [19:27] <Thrae|pc> zenon: BSODs are almost always driver issues -- there's nothing Minecraft could be doing to cause the problem specifically. I've never even heard of a sandboxed game giving a BSOD without it being a driver issue.
#2632 [19:27] <Thrae|pc> zenon: None of those games use OpenGL
#2633 [19:27] <username> uuuuuhhhhh.....i saved it to my desktop now im opening it
#2634 [19:27] <xales> zenon: Reinstall Java; hire a computer professional. BSODs suggest that your computer is very fucked up
#2635 [19:27] * AuBot kicked xales from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ales :Please keep it civil.)
#2636 [19:27] <zenon> any idea what driver it could be
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#2638 [19:27] <xales> Kealper, I swear
#2639 [19:27] <xales> fix that bot
#2640 [19:28] <Thrae|pc> zenon: Most likely it's the video card driver or a corrupt Java installation.
#2641 [19:28] <Kealper> hmm....is the f-bomb a bit overkill?
#2642 [19:28] <Thrae|pc> zenon: Just because the driver is stable for DirectX games doesn't mean it's stable for OpenGL use.
#2643 [19:28] <dect11> so...
#2644 [19:28] <Blahound> thanks people :)
#2645 [19:28] <zenon> I did just update my video driver. Maybe I should go back to the last version
#2646 [19:29] <mib_nagbpb> how long dose it take to get the email from minecraft
#2647 [19:29] <leeps291> yes i have java
#2648 [19:29] <username> here it is! http://pastebin.com/msBcQF8U
#2649 [19:29] <Thrae|pc> :launcher
#2650 [19:29] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: Do you have a "jre6" folder inside that Java folder?
#2651 [19:30] <dect11> this stinks nomore minecraft:(
#2652 [19:30] <Thrae|pc> mib_nagbpb: Up to 5 business days. Usually 1 business day.
#2653 [19:30] <leeps291> yes i do
#2654 [19:30] <Thrae|pc> dect11: One sec
#2655 [19:30] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
#2656 [19:30] <dect11> yay
#2657 [19:30] <Kealper> xales: ok, "fuck" was removed
#2658 [19:30] <username> soooo....
#2659 [19:31] <zenon> I was trying to buy the game so I can install it on the computer in hopes that it will work, but it says my account is on hold...no idea why
#2660 [19:31] <leeps291> fuck
#2661 [19:31] <leeps291> lol
#2662 [19:31] <leeps291> sorry
#2663 [19:31] <Kealper> leeps291: that doesn't mean test it >.>
#2664 [19:31] <Thrae|pc> zenon: When did you buy it?
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#2666 [19:32] <Guest85779> hello?
#2667 [19:32] <dect11> sooooo..........
#2668 [19:32] <Guest85779> um, i cant log into my account anymore
#2669 [19:32] <Kealper> Guest85779: what does it tell you when you try?
#2670 [19:32] <dect11> .....
#2671 [19:32] <username> Thrae|pc.....hears the link http://pastebin.com/msBcQF8U
#2672 [19:33] <Guest85779> oops, unknown username or password
#2673 [19:33] <zenon> I just opened an account earlier today and tried to buy it three times. All three failed, says my account is on hold. Actually, the first time it said I need to provide them with a passport, but that message went away.
#2674 [19:33] <leeps291> yes jre6 is there
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#2676 [19:33] <Kealper> Guest85779: make sure you are using the correct password, that is almost always the cause
#2677 [19:33] <Guest85779> herp derp
#2678 [19:33] <Guest85779> of corse i do!
#2679 [19:33] <Kealper> Guest85779: make sure you are using the correct username then?
#2680 [19:34] <Guest85779> -.-
#2681 [19:34] <Guest85779> really?
#2682 [19:34] <Thrae|pc> dect11: OK, download http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar , open it like you would the EXE launcher, and after it crashes like the other one does, copy the contents of the minecraft.log file it creates to www.pastebin.com and give us the link
#2683 [19:34] <Kealper> Guest85779: really...it wouldn't be saying that if you were getting it right
#2684 [19:34] <Guest85779> does it have anything to do with the minecon event?
#2685 [19:34] <Kealper> Guest85779: what, passwords not working? no
#2686 [19:35] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: One sec
#2687 [19:35] <Thrae|pc> username: One sec
#2688 [19:35] <leeps291> ok
#2689 [19:35] <username> k
#2690 [19:35] <Guest85779> hm, i thought it was the capes or something
#2691 [19:36] <Guest85779> the "swag:
#2692 [19:36] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: OK I double-checked and the batch file is correct. Are you sure you're in the "Program Files" folder and not the "Program Files (x86)" folder?
#2693 [19:36] <Guest85779> *"swag:
#2694 [19:36] <Kealper> Guest85779: capes are being awarded to people who bought MineCon tickets, but that isn't going to make your password magically go poof
#2695 [19:36] <Guest85779> hm, then what else?
#2696 [19:36] <Guest85779> i can log into my friends account
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#2698 [19:37] <dect11> its going to http://search.freeze.com/Search.aspx?keywords=www.matts-hosting.com%20~thrae%20illegal%20MCH-Launcher.jar&SearchConfigurationId=4&SearchType=2&type=W3i_NA,173,3_8,NA%20Error,20110519,6892,0,5,0,-1,4&WithinSession=true
#2699 [19:37] <Thrae|pc> username: File got cut off. Did you go to Edit->Select All first?
#2700 [19:37] <username> yes
#2701 [19:37] <username> ill do it again
#2702 [19:37] <Thrae|pc> dect11: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#2703 [19:37] <Kealper> Guest85779: then i recommend first visiting here: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename and getting all usernames that are on your email, then visiting here: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword to reset your password
#2704 [19:38] <Thrae|pc> dect11: Whoops, wrong URL
#2705 [19:38] <Thrae|pc> dect11: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#2706 [19:38] <username> Threa|pc there it is again
#2707 [19:38] <username> http://pastebin.com/uAhTD570
#2708 [19:39] <leeps291> i was in program files (x86)
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#2710 [19:39] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: (x86) is 32-bit, I want you in the other folder, which is 64-bit, just called "Program Files"
#2711 [19:39] <bernard> hello i decided to make my own server and play on it. i keep getting an error saying "out of memory." I dont know how to fix this and in need of help
#2712 [19:40] <Thrae|pc> bernard: What's your total RAM?
#2713 [19:40] <dect11> ok shoyld i open it w winrar?
#2714 [19:40] <Thrae|pc> dect11: No, it should open with Java
#2715 [19:40] <bernard> ram as in on my comp? 4g
#2716 [19:40] <leeps291> java is not there and minecraft is not there
#2717 [19:40] <Thrae|pc> bernard: OK, how much RAM are you giving the server?
#2718 [19:40] <dect11> k
#2719 [19:40] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: OK so you don't have 64-bit Java installed
#2720 [19:40] <Thrae|pc> :J
#2721 [19:40] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#2722 [19:40] <bernard> i dont know haha..i dont know how?
#2723 [19:41] <leeps291> i guess not
#2724 [19:41] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: Download and install Java 64-bit from that link ^^^^^
#2725 [19:41] <bernard> i just followed steps on a youtube video
#2726 [19:41] <Kealper> bernard: are you running minecraft_server.exe or minecraft_server.jar?
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#2728 [19:41] <bernard> yes the minecraft server
#2729 [19:41] <Guest85779> sorry
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#2731 [19:41] <Thrae|pc> bernard: EXE or JAR
#2732 [19:41] <Guest85779> IRC screwed up on me
#2733 [19:41] <Guest85779> :(
#2734 [19:41] <Kealper> bernard: link to the youtube video, please?
#2735 [19:41] <bernard> exe
#2736 [19:41] <username> ...Threa|pc http://pastebin.com/uAhTD570
#2737 [19:42] <Thrae|pc> username: Yes I saw it, I can only help one person at a time
#2738 [19:42] <username> oh...sry
#2739 [19:42] <Guest85779> any ideas? anyone?
#2740 [19:42] <Kealper> Guest85779: then i recommend first visiting here: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename and getting all usernames that are on your email, then visiting here: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword to reset your password
#2741 [19:42] <Guest85779> but
#2742 [19:42] <Guest85779> its not my email
#2743 [19:42] <Guest85779> a friend's cousin gave it to me
#2744 [19:42] <Thrae|pc> username: Download this Catalyst Suite -- http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#2745 [19:43] <username> then
#2746 [19:43] <bernard> i am trying to find the video but for some reason i cant find it
#2747 [19:43] <leeps291> ok i got java from that link
#2748 [19:43] <Guest85779> the account is tonysesek
#2749 [19:43] <Guest85779> is that helps
#2750 [19:43] <Guest85779> *if
#2751 [19:43] <Kealper> Guest85779: then we can not help you; we are only volunteers, so we can only provide technical support and basic account support
#2752 [19:44] <Guest85779> oh
#2753 [19:44] <Guest85779> kay
#2754 [19:44] <Kealper> Guest85779: the only thing i can think of is that you have either forgotten your username or your password, as accounts do not just get deleted
#2755 [19:44] <Guest85779> bye ;'(
#2756 [19:44] <dect11> its saying when i try 2 log in it says java.lang.nullPointerExpection
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#2758 [19:45] <Thrae|pc> bernard: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Starting_the_jar_version_with_more_or_less_memory , you can use those same instructions for the EXE version, just replace the file name
#2759 [19:45] <dect11> me?
#2760 [19:45] <Thrae|pc> dect11: OK, copy the minecraft.log to www.pastebin.com
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#2763 [19:46] <dect11> where is minecraft.log?
#2764 [19:46] <guest-0-07645> Hello? Can someone help me for a moment if possible?
#2765 [19:46] <Kealper> guest-0-07645: what' sthe issue?
#2766 [19:46] <Kealper> what's*
#2767 [19:46] <Thrae|pc> dect11: It should have created the file
#2768 [19:47] <guest-0-07645> Alright, so I've been trying to purchase the game, my friend has put in his Visa Debit card. All is valid, but then when we get to confirm with the cell phone, nothing happens.
#2769 [19:47] <dect11> ??? it goes to the launcher
#2770 [19:47] <Kealper> guest-0-07645: is it a normal card or a pre-paid card?
#2771 [19:47] <guest-0-07645> Normal.
#2772 [19:48] <Kealper> hmm....
#2773 [19:48] <leeps291> ok i have java 64
#2774 [19:48] <Thrae|pc> dect11: It should create a file called minecraft.log in the same folder as where you put the MCH-Launcher.jar file
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#2776 [19:48] <Thrae|pc> leeps291: OK, now the batch file will work
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#2778 [19:48] <guest-0-07645> Yeah, it's weird.
#2779 [19:48] <dect11> ill look ag
#2780 [19:49] <Kealper> guest-0-07645: i'm not sure i know what you mean by confirm with the cell phone though, is this something on his card's end? or something new that Mojang is doing?
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#2782 [19:49] <Thrae|pc> dect11: If you have it on your desktop put it somewhere else, like inside a folder on your desktop
#2783 [19:50] <guest-0-07645> We think it's a new thing with Mojang. Once we put in a cell number, it say it'll send us a verification code for the card, which we put into the computer, and supposedly gets the game.
#2784 [19:50] <guest-0-07645> CLicked resend, and nothing happens then, either.
#2785 [19:50] <dect11> here is somthing that might concern javax.imageio.IIOException: Can't get input stream from URL!
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#2787 [19:50] <Kealper> guest-0-07645: that doesn't sound right....what payment method are you choosing?
#2788 [19:51] <dect11> Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Documents and Settings\mr.minecraft\My Documents\minecraft do not delete important stuff!!!! (The system cannot find the file specified)
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#2790 [19:51] <Kealper> dect11: remove the "!!!!" from that folder name and run it again
#2791 [19:51] <guest-0-07645> You mean like gift or direct? If so, we've tried both.
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#2793 [19:52] <guest-0-07645> Friend is reopening Minecraft.net and is on the purchase page.
#2794 [19:52] <Thrae|pc> dect11: Folders can't have "!" in them for Minecraft
#2795 [19:52] <Kealper> guest-0-07645: not quite what i meant, i mean when you go to choose what payment method you want to purchase the game with, what one are you using?
#2796 [19:52] <guest-0-07645> Visa
#2797 [19:52] <Thrae|pc> guest-0-07645: There are credit card services which require authorization through a cell phone
#2798 [19:52] <dect11> it says acsess denied
#2799 [19:53] <Kealper> dect11: close out of Minecraft first
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#2801 [19:53] <dect11> kk
#2802 [19:54] <fuogo> hi
#2803 [19:54] <Kealper> fuogo: ello
#2804 [19:54] <Thrae|pc> guest-0-07645: Mojang doesn't deal with cell phone authorization, period, so it's certainly something attached to your account.
#2805 [19:54] <Thrae|pc> (Your Credit Card, Paypal, or Moneybrokers account)
#2806 [19:54] <Kealper> that's what i was thinking as well, i was just doing some searching around
#2807 [19:54] <guest-0-07645> Then it's something with both of us. Not sure what's going on.
#2808 [19:55] <Thrae|pc> Yeah, I know you can setup Paypal to do it, as I have it setup that way
#2809 [19:55] <dect11> same thing ag
#2810 [19:55] <fuogo> can someone tell me why my minecraft always crash? please
#2811 [19:55] <Kealper> dect11: same error?
#2812 [19:55] <dect11> y
#2813 [19:55] <fuogo> yes it wont let me play
#2814 [19:55] <Kealper> fuogo: what do you mean by crash? close or gl blank?
#2815 [19:56] <Kealper> dect11: you closed out of Minecraft and removed all the "!" from that folder name?
#2816 [19:56] <dect11> y
#2817 [19:56] <Thrae|pc> dect11: OK, download http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft512.bat and place it in the same directory as Minecraft.exe, then run the batch file you just downloaded. It should create a file called "errorlog.txt" which you can paste to us using www.pastebin.com after it crashes.
#2818 [19:56] <fuogo> i mean after download map and saving chunk well it always crash
#2819 [19:57] <Kealper> fuogo: are you using any mods or texture packs?
#2820 [19:57] <fuogo> no its the normal one
#2821 [19:57] <Kealper> fuogo: does it crash on all maps or just that one?
#2822 [19:57] <username> so this may give you allitle info, when i click start game or start new game it breifly says swittching level then gos black
#2823 [19:57] <fuogo> on any i didnt even played i wont let me play on solo
#2824 [19:58] <fuogo> it wont*
#2825 [19:58] <dect11> now it dissipeared on me
#2826 [19:58] <guest-0-07645> One sec, gonna go punch in rage real quick.
#2827 [19:59] <Thrae|pc> dect11: That usually means you didn't put it in the same folder or directory as Minecraft.exe. Is the Minecraft.exe on your desktop? Where is it?
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#2829 [20:01] <DD> Since the update of minecraft I can't play the game more than 5 minutes before it crashes
#2830 [20:01] <DD> I have installed Java 7 and I'm running OS XP
#2831 [20:01] <Kealper> DD: try uninstalling Java 1.7 and installing the latest Java 1.6
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#2833 [20:02] <guest-0-07645> Back, just kinda urked.
#2834 [20:02] <Thrae|pc> fuogo: OK, let's try this verbose launcher....download http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar and place it inside a folder (any folder). It should create "minecraft.log" -- paste the contents to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
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#2836 [20:03] <DD> I'm not sure what you mean with the Java - my control panel says Java 7 or Java 6 Update 27 I don't have anything that says Java 1.7 or Java 1.6
#2837 [20:03] <DD> where would I find this?
#2838 [20:04] <Kealper> DD: Uninstall the Java 7 one
#2839 [20:04] <Koncker> Hey, I'm using nVidia optimus and I keep seeing squares... and if I turn on all the settings in the nVidia Control Panel, minecraft starts using immense RAM and drops to 0.5fps... I'm not 100% sure what to do
#2840 [20:04] <Thrae|pc> DD: Java 7 == Java 1.7.0 or Java 1.7.1
#2841 [20:04] <Thrae|pc> Koncker: Need to set java.exe and javaw.exe to always use the Nvidia GPU
#2842 [20:04] <DD> It kept crashing with Java 6 also, that's why I upgraded to 7
#2843 [20:05] <Thrae|pc> Koncker: http://josoft.net/post/2011/01/18/Minecraft-on-your-Nvidia-Optimus-laptop.aspx
#2844 [20:05] <Koncker> java.exe as well? or juts javaw.exe?
#2845 [20:05] <Thrae|pc> Koncker: Sometimes they're used interchangably...might as well do both
#2846 [20:05] <dect11> guess what
#2847 [20:05] <Kealper> DD: hmm...do you have any mods or texture packs installed? have you tried reinstalling Minecraft?
#2848 [20:06] <Koncker> Oh, well I tried setting it with the GPU and it worked fine, then it just drops fps suddenly. And no, no texture packs or anything. I'll try reinstalling.
#2849 [20:06] <Thrae|pc> Koncker: So you explicitly set both java.exe and javaw.exe?
#2850 [20:06] <DD> No, I don't have any texture packs or mods. I tried reinstalling Minecraft also.
#2851 [20:06] <DD> I can't play in my browser either.
#2852 [20:06] <Koncker> I'm trying right now with java.exe as well
#2853 [20:06] <username> thanks for the help
#2854 [20:06] <Kealper> DD: has it worked before?
#2855 [20:06] <username> ;
#2856 [20:06] <username> ;
#2857 [20:07] <leeps291> its fixed thx
#2858 [20:07] <DD> It worked prior to the update
#2859 [20:07] <Kealper> DD: hmm...how much ram does your computer have?
#2860 [20:07] <dect11> it is on my desktop
#2861 [20:07] <Thrae|pc> dect11: OK, so the batch file needs to be there too
#2862 [20:07] <DD> 2.5 GB
#2863 [20:08] <DD> I keep getting the error message Java virtual machine is out of memory
#2864 [20:08] * Thrae|pc thinks DD needs to use Java parameters to throttle the memory
#2864 [20:09] <DD> What does throttle the memory mean? and how do you do that?
#2865 [20:09] <Koncker> I just tried it again, and it doesn't even get rid of the weird lines anymore.
#2866 [20:09] <dect11> what is that is it the MCH-lau?ncher
#2867 [20:09] <Kealper> DD: to limit how much ram Minecraft tries to use, Java is extremely picky with memory, and if it can't have all the memory it wants in one huge lump, it cries
#2868 [20:10] <DD> ahhhh
#2869 [20:10] <dect11> er MCH-launcher
#2870 [20:10] <DD> so I can I give it what it wants? in order for it to be happy : )
#2871 [20:11] <Thrae|pc> DD: You can use this batch file -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft.bat , placing it in the same directory/folder. That'll allocate up to the maximum amount 32-bit Java can handle, starting with 1GB.
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#2873 [20:11] <Kealper> DD: well, the idea here is to give it less memory, so it doesn't try and take such a large chunk therefore reducing the possibility of error
#2874 [20:11] <Azdin> Hi.
#2875 [20:11] <dect11> or the LaunchMinecraft512?
#2876 [20:11] <Kealper> oh
#2877 [20:11] <Thrae|pc> dect11: LaunchMinecraft512
#2878 [20:11] <dect11> k and yes
#2879 [20:11] <DD> OK, will the batch file give it less memory then?
#2880 [20:12] <Kealper> DD: actually from the sounds of it, that will give it more memory but give it a shot, it might work
#2881 [20:12] <Azdin> My minecraft server is lagging most unusually. It's not running slow per se, and I'm not suffering any framerate issues or anything. Rather the server clock is falling behind rapidly, and despite connecting localhost, there is a significant amount of lag. Anyone have any ideas of what I can do to fix this?
#2882 [20:12] <Thrae|pc> Kealper: I *think* the out of memory error usually occurs when it either exhausts free memory OR tries to allocate over the 32-bit limit, which is why I find limiting it to 1400M can work
#2883 [20:12] <fuogo> well Thraelpc, it still wont work.. just after ''building terrain'' it crash
#2884 [20:12] <DD> OK, do I run the batch file before I sign on?
#2885 [20:12] <Thrae|pc> DD: The batch file launches Minecraft for you
#2886 [20:13] <DD> I'll give it a try. one sec.
#2887 [20:13] <Koncker> Thrae|pc; still doesn't work, tried using both java.exe and javaw.exe and still see the choppy squares
#2888 [20:13] <Azdin> I've got 8 GB of ram, 3.4 ghz quad-core system.
#2889 [20:13] <Azdin> 64-bit windows
#2890 [20:13] <Kealper> Thrae|pc: hmm...could be..i'm not a Java programmer so i don't know the specifics lol
#2891 [20:13] <Thrae|pc> Koncker: Hmm, can you confirm it's running on the Nvidia GPU? There should be an indicator in your system tray
#2892 [20:14] <Thrae|pc> Azdin: Make a batch file that explicitly calls 64-bit Java and gives it more memory
#2893 [20:14] <DD> No, it doesn't work.
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#2895 [20:14] <DD> It opened Minecraft and said simulating world for a bit and it's frozen.
#2896 [20:14] <Kealper> DD: what does it tell you and/or do?
#2897 [20:14] <dect11> it is on the desktop
#2898 [20:14] <Koncker> Thrae|pc, well after a certain time it just drops to 1fps and I can't do anything, and I'm not 100% sure if it's using the Nvidia GPU, I believe it is, since the Intel one isn't showing up
#2899 [20:14] <Kealper> hmm
#2900 [20:14] <Thrae|pc> DD: The batch file doesn't work *at all*, or it gives an out of memory error?
#2901 [20:15] <Thrae|pc> dect11: OK, run the batch file and it should create an "errorlog.txt" file after it crashes
#2902 [20:15] <Thrae|pc> Koncker: Hmm, might be driver-related then
#2903 [20:15] <dect11> kk
#2904 [20:15] <DD> I can't get back to the Minecraft window now. I may have to force it to quit.
#2905 [20:15] <DD> It sounds like it taxing my PC.
#2906 [20:15] <Kealper> DD: well that's...odd
#2907 [20:16] <Thrae|pc> DD: Give it a minute...maybe the HDD I/O is being slow
#2908 [20:16] <Azdin> I'm running minecraft_server.exe. how can I configure this batch file?
#2909 [20:16] <Koncker> Thrae|pc, mhmm maybe...
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#2911 [20:17] <dect11> i cant copy any thing from it
#2912 [20:17] <Thrae|pc> Azdin: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Starting_the_jar_version_with_more_or_less_memory <-- just change "minecraft.jar" to "minecraft_server.exe" if you want to use the exe
#2913 [20:17] <Thrae|pc> dect11: It's blank?
#2914 [20:17] <dect11> no
#2915 [20:18] <Thrae|pc> dect11: Open errorlog.txt in Notepad, go to Edit->Select All, then Edit->Copy
#2916 [20:18] <DD> After I start the script my CPU bounces between 52% and 67% with nothing happening
#2917 [20:18] <Thrae|pc> DD: Is Java using that CPU time?
#2918 [20:18] <fuogo> then no one can answer me?
#2919 [20:19] <DD> I'm not able to bring Minecraft to the front either so I don't know what it's doing
#2920 [20:19] <dect11> no wait wrong file and no
#2921 [20:19] <Thrae|pc> fuogo: Right...I gave you that batch file to generate an errorlog.txt, and I need you to copy everything from it to www.pastebin.com and give us the link
#2922 [20:19] <Thrae|pc> DD: Check for java.exe / javaw.exe in Task Manager
#2923 [20:20] <Kealper> bah, ninja'd
#2924 [20:20] <fuogo> I do not understand what you mean by giving you the link.
#2925 [20:20] <Wug> <Kealper> hmm....is the f-bomb a bit overkill?
#2926 [20:20] <Thrae|pc> fuogo: After you submit the information to www.pastebin.com you copy the URL in your address bar and paste it to this channel.
#2927 [20:20] <Wug> No. this is a public channel and the majority of the people we deal with are less than 15
#2928 [20:21] <dect11> no nothing
#2929 [20:21] <DD> It wouldn't open
#2930 [20:21] <Thrae|pc> DD: Task Manager wouldn't open?
#2931 [20:21] * Wug suspects virus
#2931 [20:22] <DD> task manager was open, I couldn't get Minecraft to come to the front and I force quit it.
#2932 [20:22] <DD> I didn't see your message about Java in the task manager. I'll try it again.
#2933 [20:22] <Kealper> Wug: meh, word filter will now be disabled for helpers and enabled for randoms then
#2934 [20:23] <dect11> ogh wait OK
#2935 [20:23] <Azdin> k, I've got 8 GB so what should I set these numbers to in the command?
#2936 [20:23] <Azdin> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M <-- These numbers
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#2938 [20:24] <fuogo> sorry again but what information must j'envoille a pastebin.com?
#2939 [20:24] <Thrae|pc> Azdin: 1024MB == 1GB, so try 2GB
#2940 [20:24] <Thrae|pc> fuogo: errorlog.txt
#2941 [20:24] <DD> Java.exe is running at 423,032K
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#2943 [20:25] <Thrae|pc> DD: OK, and how much CPU time is it using?
#2944 [20:25] <DD> between 49 and 50
#2945 [20:25] <Wug> Kealper: that would probably be a good idea
#2946 [20:25] <Thrae|pc> DD: OK, when you are trying out Minecraft each of these times, are you going back to the same world or are you generating new worlds?
#2947 [20:25] <Kealper> !reload mod_mchelp
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#2949 [20:26] <Kealper> Wug: done
#2950 [20:26] <DD> I generated one called Fix and I keep going back to that one.
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#2952 [20:26] <Thrae|pc> DD: Just in case "Fix" is ironically broken, try generating new worlds
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#2954 [20:27] <dect11> ok
#2955 [20:27] <DD> OK, I'll try it.
#2956 [20:27] <Azdin> But I have 8 gb +Thrae|pc
#2957 [20:27] <fuogo> then I will brief on pastebin to do what cars I do not know the address, I created a paste and then?
#2958 [20:28] <Thrae|pc> Azdin: Other things on your computer need memory too. I personally run my small server fine on 1.5GB for about 5 people.
#2959 [20:28] <Thrae|pc> fuogo: Need to copy what's in the address bar and paste the link here
#2960 [20:28] <Azdin> no, still laggin bad
#2961 [20:28] <Azdin> falling miles and miles before land appears
#2962 [20:29] <Thrae|pc> Azdin: Is this 1.8.1 vanilla?
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#2964 [20:29] <dect11> Thrae|pc i pm'd you
#2965 [20:29] <Azdin> I believe so
#2966 [20:29] <Azdin> I'll sort it out latre. gotta run
#2967 [20:29] <Thrae|pc> Azdin: OK, try a new world
#2968 [20:29] <Thrae|pc> dect11: Your pm just said "hi"....we don't normally allow pms here
#2969 [20:30] <dect11> o
#2970 [20:30] <dect11> whoops
#2971 [20:30] <Thrae|pc> dect11: Please stop with the PMs. What do you need? Did you find the errorlog.txt?
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#2973 [20:31] <DD> same thing with a new world
#2974 [20:31] <dect11> YES ive been trying to get your attention
#2975 [20:31] <Koncker> Thrae|pc, nothing is working... I'm just gonna give up and try re-installing minecraft...
#2976 [20:31] <fuogo> it will not let me copy anything, apart http://www.minecraft.net/play ...
#2977 [20:32] <fuogo> it will not
#2978 [20:32] <Thrae|pc> fuogo: You need to copy the link in your browser when you're at www.pastebin.com after you click "Submit". The address will change, and we need that address to see your paste.
#2979 [20:32] <DD> Is there a way to play the game in the version before this update?
#2980 [20:32] <Thrae|pc> dect11: OK, yes?
#2981 [20:32] <dect11> yes
#2982 [20:33] <Thrae|pc> ??> DD oldversion
#2983 [20:33] <VoxelHead> DD: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#2984 [20:33] <Thrae|pc> DD: You're also free to try 1.9-pre
#2985 [20:33] <DD> How would I get the 1.9?
#2986 [20:34] <Thrae|pc> DD: http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/230-19-pre-release-is-out-for-testing/
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#2988 [20:34] <Thrae|pc> OK, I need a serious break
#2989 [20:34] * Thrae|pc is AFK
#2989 [20:34] <fuogo> you want you say that? ttp: / / pastebin.com/p789jeP3
#2990 [20:34] <fuogo> http://pastebin.com/p789jeP3
#2991 [20:34] <DD> I'll give these two a try. Thank you for your help : ) One more question though.
#2992 [20:35] <DD> How can I slow Java down?
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#2994 [20:35] * ChanServ kicked Notch from #minecrafthelp (Reason: otch :Banned: Impersonation)
#2995 [20:35] <Thrae|pc> fuogo: OK you pasted an address into pastebin. You need to paste the contents of errorlog.txt by going to Edit->Select All then Edit->Copy.
#2996 [20:35] <TheNytangel> What if Notch actually does come to talk to us.. oh wait that was a mibbit
#2997 [20:35] * Demonnachos3 [Demonnachos3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2998 [20:35] <Demonnachos3> O_O
#2999 [20:35] <Kealper> Notch doesn't love us that much :<
#3000 [20:36] * Kealper gets back to work
#3000 [20:36] * Thrae|pc goes back to AFK
#3000 [20:36] <Demonnachos3> O_o
#3001 [20:36] <TheNytangel> Anyways, I can't believe I just paused my youtube video to watch a hannah montana movie
#3002 [20:36] <Kealper> o_O
#3003 [20:36] * TheNytangel watches two things
#3003 [20:36] <Demonnachos3> D:
#3004 [20:37] <Demonnachos3> wie alt bist du TheNytangel
#3005 [20:37] <TheNytangel> OHHHH
#3006 [20:37] <TheNytangel> 14
#3007 [20:37] * Kealper tests out a function he just made that determines where java.exe is from any version of Java installed
#3007 [20:37] <TheNytangel> :P I learned that on thursday last week
#3008 [20:37] <Demonnachos3> toll
#3009 [20:37] <TheNytangel> Wait
#3010 [20:37] <TheNytangel> I think I know how to respond..
#3011 [20:37] <TheNytangel> Ich.....
#3012 [20:37] <TheNytangel> Something 14
#3013 [20:37] <Demonnachos3> i learned it on the second day of school
#3014 [20:38] <Demonnachos3> its ich bin vierzehn jahre alt
#3015 [20:38] <Demonnachos3> for you
#3016 [20:38] <Demonnachos3> i forget how to say story
#3017 [20:38] <TheNytangel> Kealper, I'm using what I have learned in german class the first couple months of school :P
#3018 [20:38] <Demonnachos3> Geschichte
#3019 [20:38] <TheNytangel> When he said that I was like "I KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS WHAT IS IT"
#3020 [20:39] <Demonnachos3> Toll geschichte bruder
#3021 [20:39] <TheNytangel> Now I don't know a single thing you are saying >.>
#3022 [20:39] <TheNytangel> Come back in May and test me
#3023 [20:39] <TheNytangel> :)
#3024 [20:39] <Demonnachos3> i just said cool story bro
#3025 [20:39] <Demonnachos3> basically
#3026 [20:40] <TheNytangel> Or say the basics.. basicy
#3027 [20:40] <TheNytangel> basicly*
#3028 [20:40] <Demonnachos3> im ot sure its spelled that way
#3029 [20:40] <Demonnachos3> *not
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#3031 [20:40] <Demonnachos3> willkommen
#3032 [20:40] <TheNytangel> Yeah it is, the base, basic, and ly, basicly
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#3034 [20:40] <Demonnachos3> ooh
#3035 [20:41] <Demonnachos3> wann ist deine geburtstag
#3036 [20:41] <TheNytangel> *cough* isn't very basic
#3037 [20:41] <Demonnachos3> yes it is
#3038 [20:41] <Demonnachos3> its when is your birthday
#3039 [20:42] <TheNytangel> Well I didn't learn it
#3040 [20:42] <Demonnachos3> i learned this the first week of german class
#3041 [20:42] <TheNytangel> :P
#3042 [20:42] <guest-0-07424> any one know the minimum specs for a computer that minecraft will run decently on is
#3043 [20:42] <Demonnachos3> no idea
#3044 [20:42] <TheNytangel> ??> guest-0-07424 requirements
#3045 [20:42] <VoxelHead> guest-0-07424: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#3046 [20:42] <Demonnachos3> *ich kenne nicht
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#3048 [20:42] <guest-0-07424> ahh thanks
#3049 [20:43] <Demonnachos3> german is my favorite class so far
#3050 [20:43] <Anyndel> I have been able to run it more or less decently with 1gb ram and a low-end dual core cpu
#3051 [20:43] <TheNytangel> I like study hall
#3052 [20:43] <Demonnachos3> say what grade are you guys in
#3053 [20:43] <Anyndel> however you should not expect it to perform anyway near "brilliant"
#3054 [20:43] <Demonnachos3> we have no study hall
#3055 [20:44] <Demonnachos3> D:
#3056 [20:44] <fuogo> Well I can not find the edition but I am still able to right click the mouse to select and then copy all but its does not copy the important text ..
#3057 [20:44] <Anyndel> by the way, good $gettime(), I need some suggestions for starting a hosted minecraft server project.
#3058 [20:44] <fuogo> http://pastebin.com/sdy8aF8U
#3059 [20:44] <Demonnachos3> fine don't tell me your grade <.<
#3060 [20:45] <TheNytangel> 9
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#3062 [20:45] <Demonnachos3> same
#3063 [20:46] <Demonnachos3> im the youngest dude in the schhol <.<
#3064 [20:46] <Demonnachos3> *school
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#3066 [20:46] <Anyndel> Namely, we're aiming pretty high, but I'd like to know: what material should I get myself familiar with in first place? Any reasons I should pick a custom server instead of the official one? How would i go about doing something like http://mcweb.fun.ngi.it/dynmap/# ?
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#3068 [20:47] <Anyndel> Mostly, my question is: what shall I read so that I stop asking stupid questions about servers and stuff (I have really basic knowledge of backend minecraft for now)
#3069 [20:47] <TheNytangel> Anyndel, that would be bukkit. You should have a choice between all 3 servers
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#3071 [20:48] <poontangclan> Hello!
#3072 [20:48] <Demonnachos3> Tschuss
#3073 [20:48] <TheNytangel> Nu
#3074 [20:48] <poontangclan> anyone here that can help me?
#3075 [20:48] <Anyndel> So I should look into bukkit and the basics of server configuration first?
#3076 [20:48] <TheNytangel> poontangclan, nien
#3077 [20:48] <poontangclan> Could someone help me please
#3078 [20:48] <TheNytangel> Lol
#3079 [20:48] <Ketsueki> Anyndel: Depends how you define stupid questions.
#3080 [20:49] <poontangclan> So no help?
#3081 [20:49] <TheNytangel> poontangclan, ask
#3082 [20:49] <Ketsueki> Anyndel: to get the basics you really need to be qualified to /administer/ a generic server on the internet in the first place.
#3083 [20:49] <Ketsueki> ??> poontangclan ask
#3084 [20:49] <poontangclan> I keep getting this error code when i try to connect to one of my friends servers
#3085 [20:49] <VoxelHead> poontangclan: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3086 [20:49] <VoxelHead> poontangclan: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3087 [20:49] <poontangclan> it works because three of my other friends are on
#3088 [20:49] <poontangclan> It says
#3089 [20:50] <TheNytangel> Anyndel, you should have a choice between the vanilla server, bukkit, and canary (www.canarymod.net)
#3090 [20:50] <poontangclan> "><META HTTP-EQUIV="CACHE-CONTROL" CONTENT = "NO-CACHE"><META HTTP-EQUIV="PR
#3091 [20:50] <TheNytangel> poontangclan, that tells us nothing
#3092 [20:50] <Ketsueki> poontangclan: that's an HTTP proxy
#3093 [20:51] <poontangclan> so....what should I be doing
#3094 [20:51] <Ketsueki> poontangclan: what do you know about the network you're on right now?
#3095 [20:51] <TheNytangel> Ketsueki, it's connected to the internet....
#3096 [20:51] <poontangclan> what do i know about it? I know it works..haha
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#3098 [20:51] <Anyndel> I'm more or less ok with a generic server :) I'll look into bukkit. As stupid questions I define: questions that have already been answered in many faqs on the net.
#3099 [20:51] <Ketsueki> poontangclan: briefly walk us through the steps you're doing to start up the minecraft client and ask it to connect to your friend's server.
#3100 [20:51] <poontangclan> I click it
#3101 [20:52] <poontangclan> I press log in
#3102 [20:52] <poontangclan> I click on multiplayer
#3103 [20:52] <poontangclan> i click his server
#3104 [20:52] <poontangclan> And click join server
#3105 [20:52] <TheNytangel> And then you spam our chat
#3106 [20:52] <Ketsueki> poontangclan: how'd his server get in the list?
#3107 [20:52] <Anyndel> (I'll start roaming the bukkit forums&docs, thanks for the pointer)
#3108 [20:52] <poontangclan> I'm positive it works because three of my friends are already on it
#3109 [20:52] <poontangclan> I added it in, I'm 100% positive that the ip isn't wrong
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#3111 [20:53] <Ketsueki> poontangclan: are they using a custom port?
#3112 [20:53] <frogzilla> If i make a 1.9 prerealease server map with some friends and when we make the world will it still be ok when the actual 1.9 comes out?
#3113 [20:53] <TheNytangel> Anyndel, IMO, you should have an online control panel and use something like xampp to.. host a website.. never mind, might get too much traffic..
#3114 [20:53] <poontangclan> A custom port?
#3115 [20:53] <poontangclan> My friend says no
#3116 [20:53] <Ketsueki> Next please do (windows logo key) + r (it's like a different kind of shift + r to get R) and 'run' this command: cmd In the dos box that comes up tracert (your friend's ip)
#3117 [20:54] <poontangclan> I'm on a mac :P
#3118 [20:54] <poontangclan> Does that still apply if i run it on terminal
#3119 [20:54] <Ketsueki> poontangclan: Can you get to a 'terminal' from anything? Maybe system?
#3120 [20:54] <Ketsueki> poontangclan: yes, type 'trace' and hit TAB to autocomplete it to a valid command
#3121 [20:54] <poontangclan> Oka
#3122 [20:54] <poontangclan> Then i put his ip in?
#3123 [20:54] <Ketsueki> Yup
#3124 [20:55] <frogzilla> I
#3125 [20:55] <red> Hello! i need help! i am running Ubuntu 11.04 and minecraft keeps crashing. it updates then goes to a black screen then says the game has crashed. i am like a 2year old when it comes to Ubuntu. any help would be great
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#3127 [20:55] <poontangclan> Alright, now what?
#3128 [20:55] <Ketsueki> poontangclan: it might be tracepath , traceroute ; I don't care. It'll complete to something and give you a list of the various things between you and your friend.
#3129 [20:55] <poontangclan> I put in the IP and i got some computer jargon back
#3130 [20:55] <Ketsueki> Yup
#3131 [20:55] <poontangclan> 5.143.217.113 (5.143.217.113), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 5.143.217.113 (5.143.217.113) 10.310 ms 10.278 ms 7.607 ms
#3132 [20:56] <poontangclan> This is what I got
#3133 [20:56] <frogzilla> If i make a 1.9 prerelease map before it comes out will it still be ok to play of when 1.9 does come out?
#3134 [20:56] <Ketsueki> poontangclan: it should have some local computers; a local ISP, a bunch of ISPs you've never heard of, your friend's ISP, and finally your friend's IP at the end.
#3135 [20:56] <TheNytangel> Hamachi
#3136 [20:56] <Ketsueki> frogzilla: no one knows
#3137 [20:56] <Ketsueki> >> poontangclan hamachi
#3138 [20:56] <poontangclan> hamachi what?
#3139 [20:56] <Ketsueki> >>? poontangclan hamachi
#3140 [20:56] <frogzilla> Alright
#3141 [20:56] <poontangclan> Oh it needs hamachi
#3142 [20:56] <poontangclan> OHHHHHHHHH
#3143 [20:56] <Ketsueki> ??> poontangclan hamachi
#3144 [20:57] <poontangclan> Thanks a ton :)
#3145 [20:57] <TheNytangel> ??> poontangclan fubar/hamachi
#3146 [20:57] <VoxelHead> poontangclan: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#3147 [20:57] <VoxelHead> poontangclan: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#3148 [20:57] <Ketsueki> Oh what... nice thanks TheNytangel
#3149 [20:57] <poontangclan> Thanks
#3150 [20:57] <Anyndel> Ketsueki: a control panel and a hosted website to do what, exactly?
#3151 [20:57] <TheNytangel> Anyndel, I suggested that :P
#3152 [20:57] <Ketsueki> Anyndel: cost money (if it's cpanel and not something free) and reduce the resources and security of your server.
#3153 [20:57] <poontangclan> So i tried it even with hamachi on..
#3154 [20:58] <poontangclan> So I can't get help for hamachi on this?
#3155 [20:58] <Ketsueki> poontangclan: fubar means it's f-ed
#3156 [20:58] <TheNytangel> Anyndel, it would take some serious coding, but a control panel to edit the plugin config files, server.properties, all the files. Be able to make backups
#3157 [20:58] <TheNytangel> Stuff like that
#3158 [20:58] <poontangclan> bummer.
#3159 [20:58] <TheNytangel> Restart server, stop it, start it
#3160 [20:58] <poontangclan> so it just doesn't work
#3161 [20:58] <Ketsueki> poontangclan: Tell your friend to run it off of a real global IP and not hamachi
#3162 [20:59] <poontangclan> He doesn't know how to haha
#3163 [20:59] <red> Hello! i need help! i am running Ubuntu 11.04 and minecraft keeps crashing. it updates then goes to a black screen then says the game has crashed. i am like a 2year old when it comes to Ubuntu. any help would be great
#3164 [20:59] <Anyndel> TheNytangel - I'd rather do that locally + FTP :3 but I can get to it. I doubt that would be the major problem... we're already planning to do cron-manned backups anyway.
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#3166 [20:59] <mib_sx4cvk> Hi
#3167 [20:59] <red> or am i in the wrong place?
#3168 [20:59] <TheNytangel> red, what game do you speak of
#3169 [21:00] <mib_sx4cvk> I cant get this game to work on linux!
#3170 [21:00] <poontangclan> Okay ket, so apparently I don't need hamachi for this server, yet its still giving me that error code
#3171 [21:00] <red> minecraft
#3172 [21:00] <Ketsueki> red: loose set of instructions: 1) get the restricted drivers if they exist for your GPU 2) install the oracle/sun java jre in your package manager. 3) figure out if you're on 32 or 64 bit linux.
#3173 [21:01] <poontangclan> Ketsueki, it doesn't need hamachi apparently and its still giving me the same thing
#3174 [21:01] <TheNytangel> Hannah Montana is back on
#3175 [21:01] <red> first 2 are done. how do i figure out if i have a 32 bit or 64 bit
#3176 [21:01] <red> ?
#3177 [21:01] <Ketsueki> poontangclan: Dunno what to tell you
#3178 [21:01] <Ketsueki> !test 5.143.217.113
#3179 [21:01] <poontangclan> in terminal?
#3180 [21:01] <Ketsueki> was that the automated test thing for servers?
#3181 [21:01] <Ketsueki> no... in here there was a bot
#3182 [21:01] <poontangclan> oh.
#3183 [21:02] <poontangclan> i dont know but it says 4/20 peopel in the server when i look at it in multiplayer
#3184 [21:02] <TheNytangel> AuBot, does it work with Hamachi servers..?
#3185 [21:02] <Ketsueki> !check 5.143.217.113
#3186 [21:02] <TheNytangel> AuBot, does it work with Hamachi servers >:o
#3187 [21:02] <Ketsueki> I was suspecting it might be the proper end user of that /8
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#3189 [21:02] <TheNytangel> Ketsueki, don't evey try
#3190 [21:03] <Ketsueki> However if AuBot doesn't go there, then it probably isn't.
#3191 [21:03] <senok500> can someone help me please?
#3192 [21:03] <red> how do i know if i am running a 32bit or 64bit?
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#3194 [21:03] <poontangclan> i give up
#3195 [21:03] <Ketsueki> red: try the first two steps first
#3196 [21:03] <poontangclan> i'm done
#3197 [21:03] <red> i did
#3198 [21:03] <TheNytangel> poontangclan, tell him to learn to port forward
#3199 [21:03] <TheNytangel> UberHaxorNova uses hamachi for his server.. nubs
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#3201 [21:04] <senok500> aloha
#3202 [21:04] <senok500> hellop
#3203 [21:04] <senok500> help
#3204 [21:04] <Ketsueki> red: you can't have done it that fast... unless you already had java-jre and the binary driver...
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#3208 [21:04] <zucchini> Um, can anyone help me with a minecraft classic problem?
#3209 [21:05] <red> wait.... binary driver? i never herd of that. i do have java-jre installed
#3210 [21:05] <Svegarn> Hello! Im setting up a v1.8 server and wanted a clean start. I deleted the .minecraft server in appdata/roaming. Now it wont create a new folder when i start the server. Any ideas?
#3211 [21:05] <Ketsueki> red: ok, I know it's a windows statement, but reboot for the JRE's environment flags to propagate; it's easier and faster than explaining how to manually do it once in your shell. If it still doesn't work, you either messed up adding an add-on OR you have a 64 bit version of java
#3212 [21:05] <Svegarn> ".minecraft server" folder*
#3213 [21:06] <red> okay thnx ketsueki :)
#3214 [21:06] <TheNytangel> Svegarn, the server folder.. isn't .minecraft
#3215 [21:06] <Ketsueki> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1517979
#3216 [21:06] <Svegarn> what?
#3217 [21:06] <MuumiJumala> server files are located in the same place as the server.exe
#3218 [21:06] <TheNytangel> Svegarn, you put it in whatever folder you want, it makes files
#3219 [21:06] <MuumiJumala> if that is in .minecraft..
#3220 [21:06] <Svegarn> no MuumiJumala
#3221 [21:06] <TheNytangel> MuumiJumala, not all are .exe
#3222 [21:06] <Svegarn> or at least it wasnt
#3223 [21:06] <MuumiJumala> oh right
#3224 [21:06] <TheNytangel> MuumiJumala, a lot of people with windows, too, use .jar
#3225 [21:06] <Svegarn> the minecraft_server.jar was located in .minecraft server
#3226 [21:07] <MuumiJumala> lol why
#3227 [21:07] <TheNytangel> MuumiJumala, you can allocate more memory
#3228 [21:07] <MuumiJumala> oh.
#3229 [21:07] <Svegarn> so how the hell do i get that stuff created?
#3230 [21:07] <TheNytangel> !server
#3231 [21:07] <Svegarn> it worked fine with the client folder
#3232 [21:07] <Ketsueki> red: I might be back later, you may need to export an ldlibs path or something like that if you have 64 bit and ubuntu doesn't include it (all my ubuntu + minecraft systems are 32 bit )
#3233 [21:07] <Svegarn> TheNytangel i know
#3234 [21:08] <Svegarn> i have the server exe
#3235 [21:08] <TheNytangel> Svegarn, just.. put it where you want it
#3236 [21:08] <Svegarn> and the rest of the files
#3237 [21:08] <red> okay that was very helpful. :)
#3238 [21:08] <Svegarn> ill try to explain it better
#3239 [21:08] <MuumiJumala> what is the problem then if you have them
#3240 [21:08] <Svegarn> im adding mods and want to config my minecraft_server.jar
#3241 [21:08] <Svegarn> since the ".minecraft server" folder doesent exist, i dont have a minecraft_server.jar
#3242 [21:08] <Svegarn> if i were to download it manually, where do i put it?
#3243 [21:09] <TheNytangel> Svegarn, just make a new folder called .minecraft server
#3244 [21:09] <TheNytangel> If that's what you want the folder called
#3245 [21:09] <Svegarn> and the rest of the files that were in there?
#3246 [21:09] <Svegarn> they werent needed?
#3247 [21:09] <Svegarn> highly doubt that :<
#3248 [21:09] <TheNytangel> Svegarn, just put the server in the and run it, it will make new ones
#3249 [21:09] <Svegarn> thats the thing
#3250 [21:09] <Svegarn> it doesnt
#3251 [21:09] <Svegarn> else i wouldnt be here :p
#3252 [21:09] <TheNytangel> Svegarn, is it a shortcut
#3253 [21:10] <Svegarn> shortcut for what?
#3254 [21:10] <TheNytangel> Svegarn, a shortcut is.. well.. if you open it, it goes to whatever the destination program is. Like, if you have a shortcut on your desktop and the minecraft.exe is in your.. documents, the shortcut will run it from the documents
#3255 [21:11] <Svegarn> ......
#3256 [21:11] <Svegarn> anyone who has a clue that can help me? :/
#3257 [21:11] <TheNytangel> Svegarn, google a "shortcut"
#3258 [21:11] <Svegarn> if youre going to be rude, you might as well shut it
#3259 [21:11] <TheNytangel> Svegarn, you shut it
#3260 [21:11] <MuumiJumala> so the server is not working? or you just can't find the files?
#3261 [21:12] <red> heres a question: do i install the runtime environment 6 (architecture independent files) or runtime environment 6 (architecture dependent files)
#3262 [21:12] <Svegarn> i can start the server
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#3264 [21:12] <Svegarn> but in order to add a mod, i have to open the minecraft_server.jar
#3265 [21:12] <Svegarn> which was located in ".minecraft server" in appdata/roaming
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#3267 [21:12] <Svegarn> which doesnt exist anymore
#3268 [21:12] <Shaq> Hello?
#3269 [21:12] <TheNytangel> Svegarn, yeah, you deleted it
#3270 [21:12] <Svegarn> no shit?
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#3272 [21:12] <TheNytangel> Svegarn, it doesn't automatically make it
#3273 [21:12] <Svegarn> it does for the client
#3274 [21:13] <TheNytangel> Yeah, but not the server
#3275 [21:13] <Svegarn> so i assumed it did with the server as well
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#3277 [21:13] <Svegarn> then instead of being an ass, mind helping me sort it out?
#3278 [21:13] <scremo> hey so i need some quick help
#3279 [21:13] <TheNytangel> Sure
#3280 [21:13] <red> this is for anyone who saw me and ketsueki talk : heres a question: do i install the runtime environment 6 (architecture independent files) or runtime environment 6 (architecture dependent files)
#3281 [21:13] <Shaq> Can somebody help me?
#3282 [21:14] <TheNytangel> Shaq, go ahead and ask
#3283 [21:14] <scremo> i cant run minecraft. in browser it gives me a java error. and on the launcher it just says i cant connect to minecraft.net i know that i deleted my .jar but it shouldve just reinstalled it so i dont know whats wrong
#3284 [21:15] <Shaq> Everytime I try joining a server it loads, then like after 10 seconds I get a black screen
#3285 [21:15] <TheNytangel> ??> scremo error/cantconnect
#3286 [21:15] <VoxelHead> scremo: (error/cantconnect) Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#3287 [21:15] <VoxelHead> scremo: (error/cantconnect) This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#3288 [21:15] <Shaq> My singeplayer works perfectly though
#3289 [21:15] <scremo> i know i have the newest java. what do you mean by the system time?
#3290 [21:15] <red> nvrmnd
#3291 [21:15] <MuumiJumala> your computer's clock.
#3292 [21:16] <mib_e5h7eg> I can't get any game mode to work i get black screened when i hit play
#3293 [21:16] <Shaq> Any ideas?
#3294 [21:16] <scremo> oh ok. so thats right too. now how do i check if internet access is allowed with java?
#3295 [21:16] <TheNytangel> Yes..
#3296 [21:16] <TheNytangel> ??> scremo java/version
#3297 [21:17] <MuumiJumala> depends on your firewall
#3298 [21:17] <VoxelHead> scremo: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#3299 [21:17] <VoxelHead> scremo: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3300 [21:17] <TheNytangel> scremo, tell us the version you have
#3301 [21:17] <scremo> version 6 update 27. but it says i have old versions. do i need to get rid of those?
#3302 [21:17] <TheNytangel> No
#3303 [21:18] <scremo> ok. so now to check the firewall?
#3304 [21:19] <TheNytangel> scremo, do you have win xp?
#3305 [21:19] <scremo> yes
#3306 [21:19] <TheNytangel> What firewall?
#3307 [21:19] <scremo> how do i check?
#3308 [21:20] <MuumiJumala> probably using its own firewall
#3309 [21:20] <TheNytangel> Have you bought/downloaded any antivirus software?
#3310 [21:20] <TheNytangel> Like norton or something?
#3311 [21:20] <scremo> i think so.
#3312 [21:20] <TheNytangel> You have norton
#3313 [21:20] <TheNytangel> ?
#3314 [21:21] <scremo> not norton. i see something called superantispyware
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#3317 [21:21] <Anyndel> I might be mistaken but the security center should tell him about the firewall he's using.
#3318 [21:21] <MuumiJumala> ^ that.
#3319 [21:22] <TheNytangel> ^
#3320 [21:22] <scremo> how can i check the security center?
#3321 [21:22] <TheNytangel> scremo, open your antivirus software
#3322 [21:22] <MuumiJumala> control panel -> security center
#3323 [21:22] <Anyndel> this might at least tell us if you have a firewall up and running.
#3324 [21:23] <scremo> on there the only firewall think that shows up is windows firewall and it says its inactive
#3325 [21:23] <MuumiJumala> that can't be causing problems then
#3326 [21:24] <Anyndel> scremo, ok, now follow on TheNytangel
#3327 [21:24] <MuumiJumala> ..tho i wonder why no firewall
#3328 [21:24] <scremo> im not sure. my dad has done so much with this computer im not quite sure whats wrong with it ever.
#3329 [21:25] <scremo> what i dont get is as soon as 1.8 came out minecraft just hasnt worked yet
#3330 [21:25] <TheNytangel> Ohhhhh
#3331 [21:25] <TheNytangel> scremo, have you downloaded the new launcher?
#3332 [21:26] <scremo> its just on the website right?
#3333 [21:26] <TheNytangel> Yeah
#3334 [21:26] <scremo> yeah. i had the same problem before and i still have it
#3335 [21:27] <TheNytangel> Well you know what?
#3336 [21:27] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti is here :)
#3337 [21:27] <TheNytangel> He knows what he is doing
#3338 [21:27] * TheNytangel has to go eat and watch hannah montana
#3338 [21:27] <scremo> ok sweet
#3339 [21:27] <TheNytangel> Anyndel, try the same thing, only pretend that.. superantispyware is the firewall :P
#3340 [21:28] <Anyndel> SuperAntiSpyware sounds legit to me.
#3341 [21:28] <Anyndel> like TotallyCoolSiteWithoutSpyware.com
#3342 [21:28] <MuumiJumala> :D
#3343 [21:28] <Anyndel> Anyway, good Hannah Montana, we'll try and see into it.
#3344 [21:28] <scremo> oh yes you bet it rocks. it like doesnt do shit and i suck with computers and i can tell that its terrible
#3345 [21:29] <Anyndel> Hanna Montana-ing... ?
#3346 [21:29] <Anyndel> scremo, this superantispyware thing, can you open a control panel or something? Just to check what it's doing?
#3347 [21:29] <scremo> yeah
#3348 [21:29] <scremo> its open
#3349 [21:29] <Anyndel> does it have anything related to internet or network activity?
#3350 [21:29] <scremo> it has like scan options and a quarantine and some other things
#3351 [21:29] <scremo> i can go into options and look
#3352 [21:30] <Anyndel> internet protection - firewall - network... anything like that?
#3353 [21:30] <Anyndel> look but don't touch anything yet :3
#3354 [21:30] <scremo> alright
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#3358 [21:30] <guest-0-37857> hi
#3359 [21:30] <guest-0-37857> i need help
#3360 [21:31] <MuumiJumala> what's the problem
#3361 [21:31] <scremo> theres not really any internet settings
#3362 [21:31] <Anyndel> scremo, forgot one most important thing: what kind of java error does it give if you try to run minecraft in browser?
#3363 [21:31] <guest-0-37857> i have a laptop how do i increase the fps or speed of the game
#3364 [21:32] <scremo> its like a long message. it white screens then it just says there was a java error.
#3365 [21:32] <Anyndel> guest-0-37857 - are you running minecraft on the lowest graphical settings?
#3366 [21:32] <scremo> then i can get details and its a bunch of codes
#3367 [21:32] <whatever> i cant connect online when i start up minecraft ive been having to play offline any one else havin this problem lately?
#3368 [21:32] <guest-0-37857> yes
#3369 [21:33] <scremo> i had that before i couldnt play at all...
#3370 [21:33] <Anyndel> guest-0-37857 - your best bet is to free up as much RAM as you can, at least that's what I did.
#3371 [21:33] <Anyndel> scremo & whatever - as far as I know it might depend also on server load on minecraft.net
#3372 [21:33] <MuumiJumala> or buy a real computer instead of shitty laptop
#3373 [21:33] <guest-0-37857> ok what os does it run better on xp vista or 7
#3374 [21:33] <guest-0-37857> mummi not many people have enough money to just go out and buy a desktop for a game
#3375 [21:34] <Anyndel> xp takes by default half resources as 7, so if you have a slow pc, go for xp.
#3376 [21:34] <MuumiJumala> probably doesn't make much difference but i think win7 is the fastest
#3377 [21:34] <Anyndel> xp is twice as fast
#3378 [21:34] <MuumiJumala> u serious bro
#3379 [21:34] <Anyndel> unless you remove everything akin to aero in win7, then xp is like 20% fast, still
#3380 [21:34] <scremo> i usually did offline so i didnt care. thats when i did mods
#3381 [21:35] <Anyndel> 7 needs to allocate 1gb ram, xp can run on 256 if I recall correctly
#3382 [21:35] <Anyndel> as far as I know 7 puts a lot more strain on the hardware although with mid to high end it will perform better
#3383 [21:35] <Anyndel> but if you struggle just to load the OS, you really can't say that 7 is faster, that seems the case of guest-0-37857
#3384 [21:35] <Anyndel> guest-0-37857, what are the lappy's specs? RAM - cpu etc
#3385 [21:36] <MuumiJumala> :[
#3386 [21:36] <Anyndel> I mean, try running 7 on 1gb ram :)
#3387 [21:36] <scremo> should i give up?
#3388 [21:36] <Anyndel> scremo, wait a sec, I was trying to find a thing
#3389 [21:36] <guest-0-37857> its sucks 512mb but i have another laptop that has 4gb and its still slow
#3390 [21:36] <Anyndel> are you willing to reinstall java?
#3391 [21:37] <guest-0-37857> of ram that is
#3392 [21:37] <Anyndel> guest-0-37857 - 512 mb is well below the minimum recommended for minecraft
#3393 [21:37] <Anyndel> bear in mind that a decent graphic card and some processing power are required too... it is freaking java after all.
#3394 [21:37] <scremo> alright
#3395 [21:37] <Anyndel> With 512 mb I doubt it will ever run smooth, if I have to be realistic.
#3396 [21:38] <Anyndel> scremo - because that's one thing I could think of
#3397 [21:38] <Anyndel> if you're willing to wait for a little i'll try and see if there's any online checker for your java connection status
#3398 [21:38] <scremo> ok i have time
#3399 [21:38] <MuumiJumala> minecraft is somewhat laggy on my 4gb ram laptop too but on this desktop not at all even tho i only have 2gb of ram
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#3401 [21:39] <Anyndel> MuumiJumala - laptops tend to put a halt on processing power and disk speed too
#3402 [21:39] <Anyndel> not to mention the brilliant intel hd3000 graphic chips...
#3403 [21:39] <MuumiJumala> :d
#3404 [21:40] <Anyndel> ASUS laptops have power4gear to put the processor to the max clock
#3405 [21:40] <MuumiJumala> yeah i have that
#3406 [21:40] <Anyndel> it is really noticeable and also turns your laptop into something like a stove.
#3407 [21:40] <Anyndel> so you can cook stuff on it and play minecraft at the same time.
#3408 [21:40] <MuumiJumala> :D
#3409 [21:41] <Anyndel> I wouldn't know about other laptops but 512 mb is really stretched since minecraft allocates 1gb default and usually stays around 700 when idling.
#3410 [21:42] <TheNytangel> So
#3411 [21:42] <TheNytangel> As long as the hannah montana show was on
#3412 [21:42] <TheNytangel> The people where she lived never watched it?
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#3414 [21:43] <|Kiikun|Janus|> TheNytangel: please... no...
#3415 [21:43] <MuumiJumala> btw for a slight fps boost you could try http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-173-optifine-hd-g-fps-boost/
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#3420 [21:45] <Anyndel> scremo - http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
#3421 [21:45] <Anyndel> what does this test say?
#3422 [21:46] <MuumiJumala> lol apparently i have old version of java
#3423 [21:46] <MuumiJumala> i ain't havin problems tho
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#3425 [21:47] <Shaq> Um, Everytime I try joining a MC Server it goes to a black screen after 10 seconds, my Singleplayer is Okay tho
#3426 [21:48] <scremo> i have the latest java version
#3427 [21:49] <Wug> :dx > Shaq
#3428 [21:49] <WugBot> Shaq: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3429 [21:49] <WugBot> Shaq: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#3430 [21:49] <SwingBlade> Still getting out-of-memory issues with Minecraft.
#3431 [21:50] <SwingBlade> It persists between profiles.
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#3433 [21:51] <scremo> I HATE THIS THAT ITS NOT WORKING :(
#3434 [21:51] <Shaq> Ok
#3435 [21:51] <BRO> when i try to run minecraft it says that a fatal erorr and i keep trying to restart but it does the same thing
#3436 [21:51] <Shaq> http://pastebin.com/NZjErLnc
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#3438 [21:52] <Anyndel> scremo - last java version and passes tests ok?
#3439 [21:52] <BRO> how do i check that?
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#3441 [21:53] <Gazionetadmin> hey why is everyones minecraft keep crashing on multiplayer
#3442 [21:53] <Shaq> Idk
#3443 [21:53] <Shaq> mine is too
#3444 [21:53] <Shaq> My singleplayer is perfect though
#3445 [21:53] <Gazionetadmin> yeah its weird
#3446 [21:54] <MuumiJumala> lol got to love these guys that ask question and leave 1 minute after
#3447 [21:54] <Anyndel> my Minecraft was perfectly fine just a few hours ago, on multi...
#3448 [21:54] <Gazionetadmin> that hardcore mode for 1.9 looks pretty intence
#3449 [21:54] <scremo> @anyndel yeah its fine
#3450 [21:54] <Shaq> http://pastebin.com/NZjErLnc
#3451 [21:54] <Gazionetadmin> so was my own server
#3452 [21:54] <Gazionetadmin> i join for a few minutes then it crashers
#3453 [21:54] <Gazionetadmin> !up
#3454 [21:55] <Gazionetadmin> !Up
#3455 [21:55] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Gazionetadmin: the server or you crashed? and what you trying to test with !up?
#3456 [21:55] <Gazionetadmin> my client
#3457 [21:55] <Gazionetadmin> everyones client keeps doing it
#3458 [21:55] <Anyndel> scremo - I know this is trivial but have you tried restarting the computer?
#3459 [21:55] <Gazionetadmin> when we try to login to multiplayer
#3460 [21:55] <scremo> yes
#3461 [21:56] <MuumiJumala> is the server running on a decent computer?
#3462 [21:56] <Gazionetadmin> i want to see if minecraft.net is up
#3463 [21:56] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Gazionetadmin: theres a chance it might be a buggy server if everyone is having problems with the same one
#3464 [21:56] <Gazionetadmin> no
#3465 [21:57] <Gazionetadmin> other people on other servers are too
#3466 [21:57] <MuumiJumala> http://www.isminecraftdown.net/
#3467 [21:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Gazionetadmin: and you can check if the login servers are up by going to login.minecraft.net it will say 'bad login' if theyre working and you are able to connect
#3468 [21:57] * Anyndel does the easiest check
#3468 [21:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> MuumiJumala: huh... nice :P
#3469 [21:57] <Gazionetadmin> do you know that noise before it gets dark on single player thats a creeper moblie
#3470 [21:58] <Gazionetadmin> xD
#3471 [21:58] <Anyndel> quick, give me a server adress!
#3472 [21:58] <Shaq> Yeah but my MP keeps crashing
#3473 [21:58] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Anyndel: kiichan.is-a-geek.net
#3474 [21:58] <Gazionetadmin> see
#3475 [21:58] <Gazionetadmin> everyone is crashing
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#3477 [21:58] * |Kiikun|Janus| wasnt crashing
#3477 [21:58] <Anyndel> looks fine to me
#3478 [21:59] <Gazionetadmin> lets see if its fixed
#3479 [21:59] <Anyndel> scremo - what did you exactly do before this started happening? Tell us again, please.
#3480 [21:59] <SwingBlade> ####### GL ERROR ########
#3481 [21:59] <Anyndel> Shaq - only MP crashes, right? Any meaningful errors?
#3482 [21:59] <SwingBlade> @Post render
#3483 [21:59] <Shaq> Im pretty sure a bad video card driver message flashes for like .1 seconds
#3484 [21:59] <Shaq> then it turns black
#3485 [21:59] <SwingBlade> 1285: Out of memory
#3486 [22:00] <Shaq> but my SP works perfectly
#3487 [22:00] <|Kiikun|Janus|> SwingBlade: put the whole error on pastebin.com and give link please
#3488 [22:00] <scremo> ok so i was playing for a while single player because mp didnt work. i did use mods but i deleted the bin and got that reset. it worked for about aweek and then it just stopped working when 1.8 came out. i tried fixing it but it didnt work.
#3489 [22:00] <Gazionetadmin> yeah its working now :D
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#3491 [22:01] <SwingBlade> http://pastebin.com/gZZTqbma
#3492 [22:01] <Anyndel> Shaq, something about GLmode etc?
#3493 [22:01] <MuumiJumala> have you tried deleting whole .minecraft folder? (copy the saves tho)
#3494 [22:01] <Anyndel> by any chance, have you tried different servers?
#3495 [22:01] <Ketsueki> red: who's not here. Both java files. you need the sun/oracle -jre the whole thing
#3496 [22:01] <Shaq> Tried a bunch of servers
#3497 [22:01] <Shaq> and I think it is about the GL Mode
#3498 [22:01] <Shaq> cant really see the message it only flashes
#3499 [22:02] <Ketsueki> TheNytangel`: I wasn't there anymore.
#3500 [22:02] <Anyndel> Shaq, run dxdiag if you're on windows
#3501 [22:02] <Escaflownemy> can you help me? minecraft won't even start for me
#3502 [22:02] <scremo> what ever. ill jsut come back when i have a chance becasue i have to go.
#3503 [22:02] <Shaq> I did
#3504 [22:02] <Shaq> http://pastebin.com/NZjErLnc
#3505 [22:02] <Shaq> here
#3506 [22:02] <scremo> thanks for trying guys
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#3508 [22:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :tlaunch
#3509 [22:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :tlauncher
#3510 [22:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :/
#3511 [22:03] * |Kiikun|Janus| stabs wugbot
#3511 [22:03] <Anyndel> Shaq, do the tests
#3512 [22:03] <Escaflownemy> can someone tell me how to get minecraft to work?
#3513 [22:03] <Shaq> How?
#3514 [22:04] <SwingBlade> I've tried running using the modified .bat file as suggested at the MC support page, but still get issues.
#3515 [22:04] <Anyndel> Escaflownemy, describe your problem better
#3516 [22:04] <Escaflownemy> it won't start
#3517 [22:04] <Anyndel> It won't start from the launcher? browser?
#3518 [22:04] <Anyndel> Shaq - on dxdiag go on display tab
#3519 [22:04] <Escaflownemy> neither
#3520 [22:04] <MuumiJumala> won't start?
#3521 [22:04] <Shaq> Ok
#3522 [22:04] <Shaq> done
#3523 [22:04] <Anyndel> you should have four buttons to run the DDdraw, d3d7, 8, 9 tests
#3524 [22:04] <Anyndel> all done all fine?
#3525 [22:05] <Anyndel> Escaflownemy - so all you see is a black screen?
#3526 [22:05] <Anyndel> Or it just crashes right away?
#3527 [22:05] <Shaq> So I rune the direct draw?
#3528 [22:05] <Shaq> Test DirectDraw?
#3529 [22:05] <Anyndel> start with the DDraw test, then go on with the others
#3530 [22:05] <Escaflownemy> no doesn't load at all
#3531 [22:05] <MuumiJumala> Escaflownemy: have you downloaded the new launcher?
#3532 [22:05] <Escaflownemy> yes
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#3535 [22:06] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :ts/launcher > SwingBlade
#3536 [22:06] <WugBot> SwingBlade: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#3537 [22:06] <WugBot> SwingBlade: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#3538 [22:06] <mib_pimbrx> Treykor username
#3539 [22:06] <Shaq> Alright finished the tests
#3540 [22:06] <Shaq> I could see everything
#3541 [22:06] <Anyndel> I hate errors that have no errors in them <_<
#3542 [22:06] <SwingBlade> Thanks Wug, checking now.
#3543 [22:07] <Anyndel> by the way, try SwingBlade's thing
#3544 [22:07] <mib_pimbrx> I was trying to buy the game with a visa card but it says try agian in 24 hours. Why is that?
#3545 [22:07] <Anyndel> of which of course I wasn't really aware until right now -_-
#3546 [22:07] <|Kiikun|Janus|> yes :P all thanks go to wug :P
#3547 [22:08] <Shaq> Its just a regular minecraft program?
#3548 [22:08] <rev-lemon> mib_pimbrx could be that you have tryed too many times so far or could be the banks not accepting your payment for whatever reasion
#3549 [22:08] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_pimbrx: that message is to prevent multiple orders.
#3550 [22:09] <Shaq> So How do I use the troubleshoot launcher?
#3551 [22:10] <MuumiJumala> just run it
#3552 [22:10] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Shaq: i think you just dowbleclick it o.o; its wug's baby. never uset it myself
#3553 [22:10] <Shaq> My multiplayer crashed its a black screen
#3554 [22:10] <mib_pimbrx> I was trying to buy the game with a visa card but it says try agian in 24 hours. Why is that?
#3555 [22:10] <Shaq> I used the launcher
#3556 [22:10] <Shaq> now hwat
#3557 [22:10] <mib_pimbrx> I was trying to buy the game with a visa card but it says try agian in 24 hours. Why is that?
#3558 [22:10] <MuumiJumala> now find that minecraft.log
#3559 [22:10] <mib_pimbrx> Plz help
#3560 [22:10] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Shaq: post the log to pastebin.com
#3561 [22:10] <Shaq> how?
#3562 [22:10] <MuumiJumala> it's probably in the same place as the launcher
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#3564 [22:11] <lemon-rev> mib_pimbrx we have answered your question please stop repeating your self
#3565 [22:11] <MuumiJumala> not sure tho
#3566 [22:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> mib_pimbrx dont/repeat
#3567 [22:11] <VoxelHead> mib_pimbrx: (dont/repeat) There is absolutely no need to repeat messages in IRC. Messages do not 'expire' and unless there is a lot of conversation, your message is not going anywhere.
#3568 [22:11] <Shaq> So how do I locate that?
#3569 [22:11] <VoxelHead> mib_pimbrx: (dont/repeat) Failure to follow this rule is very irritating, clouds the chat, and is almost certain you get you kicked for spamming.
#3570 [22:11] <mib_pimbrx> Ok
#3571 [22:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_pimbrx: that message is to prevent multiple orders.
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#3575 [22:11] <mib_pimbrx> Kiikun so what do i do
#3576 [22:12] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_pimbrx: now just wait until it either accepts and makes your account premium or it unlocks to allow another purchase attempt
#3577 [22:12] <mib_pimbrx> Alright, Thx!
#3578 [22:12] <mib_krpscl> It wont let me play, says that Minecraft encountered a problem.
#3579 [22:13] <Shaq> http://pastebin.com/8u7hkYaf
#3580 [22:13] <Shaq> Theres the log
#3581 [22:14] <mib_krpscl> wat do i do wit that?
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#3583 [22:14] <Shaq> No thats for me
#3584 [22:14] <mib_krpscl> ohh...
#3585 [22:14] <MuumiJumala> mib_krpscl: does it describe any more specifically?
#3586 [22:15] <MuumiJumala> the problem*
#3587 [22:15] <mib_krpscl> says "failed to get system properties" in small, maybe thats it
#3588 [22:16] <MuumiJumala> which os ?
#3589 [22:17] <SwingBlade> Wug: Running it through that diagnoser has so far kept it from crashing.
#3590 [22:17] <mib_krpscl> It says "Mac os x (i386) version 10.4.11"
#3591 [22:18] <mib_krpscl> I dont personally know
#3592 [22:18] <Shaq> So does anyone know my problem?
#3593 [22:19] <MuumiJumala> did you by any chance download windows launcher?
#3594 [22:19] <mib_krpscl> I think you have the same problem as me
#3595 [22:19] <Shaq> http://pastebin.com/8u7hkYaf
#3596 [22:19] <Shaq> someone told me to do that
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#3599 [22:23] <mib_f6l7e8> Hey there! Am having trouble with getting my minecraft guy to dig. Every other part of the game is working great! Have been digging and building for days and all of a sudden he won't dig any more...and no...he's not tired.
#3600 [22:23] <MuumiJumala> what :D
#3601 [22:23] <Shaq> He needs to eat
#3602 [22:23] <Shaq> cant work if your starving
#3603 [22:24] <MuumiJumala> oh o,O
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#3605 [22:24] <MuumiJumala> never been starving i always got the food :[
#3606 [22:24] <Anyndel> mib_f6l7e8 - explain better what do you mean by not digging
#3607 [22:24] <Anyndel> you can't dig at all?
#3608 [22:24] <Anyndel> no animation, nothing?
#3609 [22:26] <mib_f6l7e8> no! He'll walk around...but will walk right up to something to dig and stand there
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#3611 [22:30] <Xeogin> So... I can't buy Minecraft cause my phone & Google Voice can't receive that verification SMS... what do I do/can I do?
#3612 [22:31] * Ryladine [Ryladine@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3613 [22:32] <Ryladine> Anyone needing help?
#3614 [22:32] <Xeogin> me
#3615 [22:32] <mib_f6l7e8> I need help! Can't dig any more...any suggestions?
#3616 [22:33] <Ryladine> Whats your issue?
#3617 [22:33] <Ryladine> mib: Have you tried digging in a new area?/ are you in singleplayer or multiplayer.
#3618 [22:33] <Xeogin> I can't buy Minecraft cause I don't receive the SMS verification code
#3619 [22:33] <mib_f6l7e8> singleplayer...and yes..have tried other areas
#3620 [22:33] <Ryladine> ?? account
#3621 [22:33] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#3622 [22:33] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#3623 [22:34] <Ryladine> mib: Have you tried restarting the game?
#3624 [22:34] <Ryladine> xeogin there was probably a better ?? for your issue but I can't remember them all...
#3625 [22:35] <mib_f6l7e8> Do you mean erase? or do you mean close out game and come back in?
#3626 [22:35] <Ryladine> The second one
#3627 [22:35] <mib_f6l7e8> yes
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#3629 [22:35] <Ryladine> Have you tried another world?
#3630 [22:35] <Shaq> I need help 0_o
#3631 [22:36] <Ryladine> ?? ask
#3632 [22:36] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3633 [22:36] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3634 [22:36] <mib_f6l7e8> yes...I've tried other worlds
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#3636 [22:36] <Ryladine> Are you able to break anything at all? Or is it only digging you are unable to do?/ Do you have any mods installed?
#3637 [22:36] <Shaq> Everytime I try connecting to a working server my screen loads and after about 10 seconds it turns black and nothing happens
#3638 [22:37] <Shaq> my multiplayer works fine
#3639 [22:37] <Shaq> I have singleplayer mods
#3640 [22:37] <Xeogin> are there certain carriers that are known to work for receiving the txt?
#3641 [22:37] <Shaq> what?
#3642 [22:37] <Ryladine> Xeogin: wait..
#3643 [22:38] <mib_f6l7e8> no mods and can't break anything
#3644 [22:38] <Ryladine> Xeogin: Are you trying to buy the game from minecraft.net or somewhere else?
#3645 [22:39] <Ryladine> shaq: Try disabling your firewall, if that doesn't work forceupdate.
#3646 [22:39] <Shaq> Alright
#3647 [22:40] <Xeogin> minecraft.net
#3648 [22:40] <Ryladine> mib: Can you open doors with your left mouse button?/ Checked to make sure your controls have not been modified?
#3649 [22:40] <Ryladine> Xeogin: I'm afraid I can't answer any account questions beyond making sure your doing it in the right place, try using a verification email instead.
#3650 [22:41] <Shaq> Works
#3651 [22:41] <Xeogin> how do I do that?
#3652 [22:41] <Shaq> thank you
#3653 [22:41] <mib_f6l7e8> ok...I'll try that...then if that doesn't work I'll try disabling firewall. What do you mean by forceupdate?
#3654 [22:41] <Ryladine> mib: That was not for you.
#3655 [22:41] <mib_f6l7e8> oh...ok
#3656 [22:41] <Ryladine> mib: If I am adressing you I will say either mib, or your full name.
#3657 [22:42] <Ryladine> Sorry I need to brb for just a minute. mib: try to force-update your client, start the launcher, press options, and click force-update, then login as usual
#3658 [22:43] <mib_f6l7e8> ok! Thank you!
#3659 [22:43] <Ryladine> back
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#3661 [22:44] <Ryladine> Xeogin: I'm afraid I don't know, it's been quite some time since I bought minecraft, but I know thats how I verified my account
#3662 [22:44] <Ryladine> If you need more help with it I suppose... Lets try this ??
#3663 [22:44] <Ryladine> ?? payment
#3664 [22:44] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#3665 [22:44] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#3666 [22:44] <Ryladine> Nope, that ones not helpful either
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#3668 [22:45] <Talorth> hello?
#3669 [22:45] <Ryladine> Hello.
#3670 [22:45] <Talorth> can you help me?
#3671 [22:45] <Ryladine> Yes
#3672 [22:45] <Talorth> minecraft wont install
#3673 [22:45] <Xeogin> thx
#3674 [22:45] <Ryladine> I assume that fixed his problem since he left...
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#3676 [22:45] <Talorth> ive deleted the .minecraft folder and tried to reinstall multiople times
#3677 [22:45] <Xeogin> I hope I don't get charged twice, lol
#3678 [22:46] <Ryladine> Lol all I can say is to try emailing Mojan Xeogin
#3679 [22:46] <Talorth> its gets stuck when trying to receive a .jar somthing
#3680 [22:46] <Ryladine> Sorry I couldn't be of any more help
#3681 [22:46] <Talorth> ?
#3682 [22:46] <Talorth> mw
#3683 [22:46] <Talorth> me?
#3684 [22:46] <Ryladine> Talorith: Have you tried disabling your firewall?
#3685 [22:46] <Talorth> no
#3686 [22:46] <Talorth> how would i do that?
#3687 [22:47] <Ryladine> Talorith: What kind of AV do you run?
#3688 [22:47] <Talorth> AVG free 2011
#3689 [22:48] <Ryladine> Talorith: No firewall with that then, your windows one would be all you have unless you installed something yourself
#3690 [22:48] <Ryladine> Talorith: OS?
#3691 [22:48] <Talorth> no windows 7
#3692 [22:48] <Ryladine> Mmm
#3693 [22:49] <Talorth> ultimate
#3694 [22:49] <Talorth> any advice?
#3695 [22:49] <Ryladine> Talorith: Open your start menu, and in the search bar type "firewall" no quotes, wait for it to load, and under the category "controlpannel" the word "firewall" should be the first link, click it. Once you have tell me.
#3696 [22:50] <Talorth> kk donbe
#3697 [22:50] <Talorth> done*
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#3699 [22:50] <Talorth> did it
#3700 [22:51] <Ryladine> Look at the window that opened, on the bar on the left there should be a link that reads "Turn windows firewall on or off" click it.
#3701 [22:51] <Talorth> ok
#3702 [22:51] <Talorth> done
#3703 [22:51] <Ryladine> On the window there should be two categories, home or work, and public. Depending on your network you should turn the appropriate one off. Most likely home.
#3704 [22:52] <Ryladine> Keep this window open as you will want to re-enable it later.
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#3706 [22:52] <Talorth> it still freezes when i download it
#3707 [22:52] <Talorth> froze atr
#3708 [22:52] <Talorth> Dowloadiing packages
#3709 [22:52] <Ryladine> Once you have finished selecting that press the done button to apply the changes.
#3710 [22:52] <Ryladine> Then try it agian.
#3711 [22:52] <Talorth> Retreiving: minecraft.jar 48%
#3712 [22:53] <Ryladine> Does it still freeze?
#3713 [22:53] <Talorth> i did all that
#3714 [22:53] <Talorth> yeah
#3715 [22:53] <Talorth> :P
#3716 [22:53] <Ryladine> ??> Talorth java/version
#3717 [22:53] <VoxelHead> Talorth: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#3718 [22:53] <VoxelHead> Talorth: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3719 [22:53] <Ryladine> Please folow the link and tell me what version of java it says you have installed.
#3720 [22:53] <Talorth> You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 27).
#3721 [22:54] <Ryladine> Does your AV have real-time protection?
#3722 [22:54] <Talorth> let me check
#3723 [22:54] <Talorth> how do i check
#3724 [22:55] <Ryladine> You would simply right-click it's tray icon (It's probably hidden where you have to press the arrow to view it) and see if it says you can turn it off, if you can it does, if you can't it's unlikely it does.
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#3726 [22:56] <Ryladine> And their gone...
#3727 [22:57] <ridleykraid> Hey, does anyone know how to solve the problem some people are having? I try to save/load my levels in classic but all it comes up with is "failed to load levels". Can anyone help me?
#3728 [22:57] * Ryladine wonders why people come for help and abruptly leave before you can finish helping them
#3728 [22:58] <Ryladine> I'm afraid I've never heard of that issue ridley, I can help you go through some common troubleshooting steps if you like though.
#3729 [22:58] <Ryladine> I only have eight minutes though.
#3730 [22:58] * Kealper has got the first bit of stuff ready with his mchelp debug launcher
#3730 [22:58] <Ryladine> Nice :)
#3731 [22:58] <ridleykraid> Alright.
#3732 [22:58] <Ryladine> You ever hear of his issue kealper?
#3733 [22:59] <Ryladine> Well first thing is first, do you run any Antivirus software?
#3734 [22:59] <ridleykraid> Yeah I think so
#3735 [22:59] <Kealper> run Minecraft with different options like simulating the browser args, normal, low-ram? check. paste output of client to pastebin? check. make it have AuBot give the pastebin url automatically? not yet.
#3736 [23:00] <Ryladine> Lol I was starting with that, then I was going to do that XD
#3737 [23:00] <Kealper> AuBot: quiet you, i didn't ask for that
#3738 [23:00] <Ryladine> I take it AuBot is acting up?
#3739 [23:00] <Ryladine> XD
#3740 [23:00] <ridleykraid> Whats going on!!! XD
#3741 [23:01] <Kealper> no, it has a thing that lets you get the title of a url that was posted into a channel and it looks for key words, i guess i said all the key words it was looking for lol
#3742 [23:01] <Ryladine> Kealper is playing with his bot XD ignore them
#3743 [23:01] <Ryladine> lol
#3744 [23:01] <Ryladine> ridleykraid: Do you know what kind of AV it is?
#3745 [23:02] <ridleykraid> How do I run classic with different options?
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#3747 [23:02] <Ryladine> ridleykraid: If you can tell me I can check to see if it has any real-time protection that could be interfering.
#3748 [23:02] <Ryladine> ridleykraid: Ignore Aubot and Keapler, they are not talking to you.
#3749 [23:02] <Ryladine> Hush Aubot/
#3750 [23:02] <ridleykraid> Alright then. Hehe
#3751 [23:03] <Kealper> yeah, i was just randomly talking, disregard me
#3752 [23:03] <ridleykraid> anyway....
#3753 [23:03] <Ryladine> ridleykraid: Do you know what kind of AV it is?
#3754 [23:03] <ridleykraid> Um.. No
#3755 [23:03] <ridleykraid> I...do not
#3756 [23:03] <Ryladine> ridleykraid: Do you know how to check?
#3757 [23:04] <mib_wo09te> Hey guys, um I just bought minecraft and it runs crappy on my computer, but the weirdest thing is when i get to the main menu its says missinggte all over and its really weird anything to help?
#3758 [23:04] <lemon-rev> mib_wo09te windows / mac ?
#3759 [23:05] <mib_wo09te> Mac
#3760 [23:05] <lemon-rev> try updateing java
#3761 [23:05] <lemon-rev> going to java.com
#3762 [23:05] <mib_wo09te> ok
#3763 [23:05] <ridleykraid> No, can you tell me how? I just got this computer so I'm still trying to figure out how to work it
#3764 [23:05] <Ryladine> ??> ridleykraid teamviewer
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#3766 [23:05] <VoxelHead> ridleykraid: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#3767 [23:05] <VoxelHead> ridleykraid: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#3768 [23:05] <lemon-rev> good luck Ryladine :P
#3769 [23:06] <Ryladine> If you have no problems with it I could check for you with that.
#3770 [23:06] * Ryladine has nothing better to do, is downlading and installing ALLODS
#3770 [23:06] <ridleykraid> Alright I'll try that. Hang on a sec...
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#3772 [23:08] <ridleykraid> Okay I need a partner ID
#3773 [23:09] <Ryladine> Other way around
#3774 [23:09] <Ryladine> Give me your ID and PASS via /msg ryladine message
#3775 [23:09] <Ryladine> Your ID and pass are on the left
#3776 [23:10] <ridleykraid> Can I PM it to you?
#3777 [23:10] <Ryladine> Yes use /msg
#3778 [23:11] <ridleykraid> Just put /msg at the end or what?
#3779 [23:11] <Ryladine> ex /msg ryladine ID
#3780 [23:11] <Ryladine> then /msg ryladine PASS
#3781 [23:12] <Ryladine> Please be quick, I only have a few more minutes.
#3782 [23:14] * r0ckf0x [r0ckf0x@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3783 [23:14] <r0ckf0x> hello
#3784 [23:14] <r0ckf0x> im still having problems
#3785 [23:15] <lemon-rev> r0ckf0x you with the mac or who where you before ?
#3786 [23:15] <r0ckf0x> I was here before
#3787 [23:15] <r0ckf0x> under the same name
#3788 [23:15] <lemon-rev> oh, so whats the hic up now ?
#3789 [23:15] <r0ckf0x> Still getting the ran out of memory thing
#3790 [23:15] <r0ckf0x> even with the .bat you guys gave me
#3791 [23:16] <lemon-rev> mods / texturepacks ?
#3792 [23:16] <r0ckf0x> nope
#3793 [23:16] <r0ckf0x> cant even install zombe mod
#3794 [23:16] <lemon-rev> what about in broswer ?
#3795 [23:16] <r0ckf0x> havent tried it
#3796 [23:16] <lemon-rev> minecraft.net login click in broswer :P
#3797 [23:16] <Gazionetadmin> hey guys would you know anyways to getting people to join your server
#3798 [23:17] <Anyndel> trick them into it D:
#3799 [23:19] <r0ckf0x> its working so far but it may still crash
#3800 [23:19] <r0ckf0x> its almost at a gb of ram
#3801 [23:20] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin you could try advertising on #minecraft < irc thingi
#3802 [23:20] <lemon-rev> r0ckf0x ok how much ram you got on board that thing ?
#3803 [23:21] <Ryladine> Mcafeee has no way to make exceptions for it's realtime protection....
#3804 [23:21] <Ryladine> I knew there was a reason I hated it..
#3805 [23:21] * Ryladine uses eset smart security, and hates it too.
#3805 [23:21] <r0ckf0x> 3.5g
#3806 [23:21] <r0ckf0x> but it usually crashes after 1g
#3807 [23:21] <lemon-rev> ok,
#3808 [23:21] <Anyndel> McAfee also has a real lot of false positives and other problems.
#3809 [23:21] <r0ckf0x> minecraft not the comp lol
#3810 [23:22] <Ryladine> ridleykraid: Are you here?
#3811 [23:22] <lemon-rev> i see r0ckf0x :)
#3812 [23:22] <ridleykraid> yeah
#3813 [23:22] <Ryladine> ridleykraid: Please follow voxelheads following instructions and tell me your version of java.
#3814 [23:22] <Ryladine> ??> ridleykraid java/version
#3815 [23:22] <VoxelHead> ridleykraid: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#3816 [23:22] <VoxelHead> ridleykraid: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3817 [23:23] <Gazionetadmin> yeah i advertised my server on #minecraft i got banned for doing it :(
#3818 [23:23] <ridleykraid> one sec...
#3819 [23:23] <Gazionetadmin> ive advertised on many sites
#3820 [23:23] <Gazionetadmin> lets try youtube
#3821 [23:23] <r0ckf0x> so its not crashing and im fine with playing in a browser but i need a way to fullscreenit
#3822 [23:23] <ridleykraid> version 6 update 27
#3823 [23:24] <Ryladine> Hm
#3824 [23:24] <lemon-rev> r0ckf0x not sure you can do that in broswer, but the fullscreen might be causeing your error or run out of memory yea
#3825 [23:24] <Ryladine> ridleykraid: Do you run any mods?
#3826 [23:25] <ridleykraid> No I don't believe so.
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#3828 [23:25] <r0ckf0x> I have only had the problem since 1.8
#3829 [23:25] <r0ckf0x> before that it was fine
#3830 [23:26] <lemon-rev> r0ckf0x thats because 1.8 indtoduced more bugs and less of others :P
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#3832 [23:26] <Ryladine> ridleykraid: I'm afraid I cannot help you, please wait for another helper, you can tell them your AV is mcaffe and it cannot make exceptions. You can also tell them you are running java 6.
#3833 [23:26] <Gazionetadmin> hey when will another prerelease of 1.9 come out?
#3834 [23:26] <mariettagecko> What's the problem with the McAfee AV?
#3835 [23:27] <Gazionetadmin> and will it most likely be a helloween update?
#3836 [23:27] <ridleykraid> Alright. Dang. Thanks anyway though.
#3837 [23:27] <username> my minecraft wont work
#3838 [23:27] <mariettagecko> ridleykraid, wjat
#3839 [23:27] <Gazionetadmin> would that be a good idear?
#3840 [23:27] <VoxelHead> username: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3841 [23:27] <VoxelHead> username: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3842 [23:27] <mariettagecko> oh, well.
#3843 [23:28] <r0ckf0x> What confuses me is why only a few people are having this problem. If im having it then everyone else should be too. And if there is something about my setup that is causing it, we should be able to troubleshoot the problem and find a solution.
#3844 [23:28] <username> well when i log in it says mojang then it says they encountered a problem or something and then it dissaperas
#3845 [23:28] <Kealper> r0ckf0x: hmm....i've seen a few others with the same issue.....not sure why though :/
#3846 [23:28] <username> dissapers
#3847 [23:29] <r0ckf0x> thats what we need to find out.
#3848 [23:29] <lemon-rev> r0ckf0x trouble is not everyone runs totally full screen i have a widescreen monitor and i streach the main exe box out but i never play totally fullscreen
#3849 [23:29] <lemon-rev> username try java.com < update
#3850 [23:29] <username> oh yeahh it stopped working after i downloaded the clay army mod
#3851 [23:30] <r0ckf0x> Well my monitor is only 1680x1050
#3852 [23:30] <lemon-rev> ??> username win/reinst
#3853 [23:30] <Gazionetadmin> notch should add volcanos
#3854 [23:30] <VoxelHead> username: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3855 [23:30] <VoxelHead> username: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3856 [23:30] <Gazionetadmin> that would be cool
#3857 [23:30] <Gazionetadmin> is there a trick to find strongholds
#3858 [23:30] <lemon-rev> yea i saw that, interesting thing lol
#3859 [23:30] <Gazionetadmin> and when will boss mobs be added
#3860 [23:30] <username> well i dont have like new windows
#3861 [23:30] <Gazionetadmin> and notch should add quicksand
#3862 [23:31] <Kealper> Gazionetadmin: we don't know...we're just volunteers, not Mojang employees
#3863 [23:31] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin if your lucky you will find them deep below the surface but only if your lucky
#3864 [23:31] <Gazionetadmin> and maybe a bit of phics
#3865 [23:31] <Gazionetadmin> physics
#3866 [23:31] <Kealper> (there is a Mojang employee in here, but he's sleeping right now)
#3867 [23:32] <almostroot> Kealper: Sh. ;P
#3868 [23:32] <username> okay i did what you said to do now what open minecraft
#3869 [23:32] * Kealper isn't going to say who
#3869 [23:32] <almostroot> Kealper: Don't want to wake anyone.
#3870 [23:32] <Kealper> lol
#3871 [23:33] * Kealper goes back to working on his mchelp debugging Minecraft launcher
#3871 [23:33] <lemon-rev> username yes
#3872 [23:33] <lemon-rev> um good luck kealper
#3873 [23:33] <Gazionetadmin> do you know that noise before it gets dark on singleplayer thats a creeper mobile
#3874 [23:33] <username> okay
#3875 [23:33] <Kealper> already got most of it done lol, just adding a few bells and whistles :P
#3876 [23:33] <username> now how do i get my mod back
#3877 [23:33] <lemon-rev> healper so your what reverse engering it ?
#3878 [23:34] <Kealper> username: you don't, since that was causing Minecraft to break
#3879 [23:34] <username> wow so i can never download that mod
#3880 [23:35] <Kealper> lemon-rev: nah, this just takes the place of a batch file, except it's a lot more advanced in stuff it can do....like automatically post output to pastebin and then have aubot give the link automatically, without user intervention
#3881 [23:35] <Kealper> AuBot: pipe down, you
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#3885 [23:40] <lemon-rev> oh thats nice
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#3887 [23:40] <lemon-rev> keep the good work up then :)
#3888 [23:42] * Kealper makes it able to detect if there is a "!" inside the computer username or the working directory of the launcher
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#3889 [23:44] <lemon-rev> kealper, nice feature if it acually works and then reports back to the user as well as autobot :)
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#3891 [23:46] <Kealper> meh, everything should be done and ready for testing in around an hour
#3892 [23:46] <lemon-rev> kewl
#3893 [23:46] <Kealper> all that is really left to do is to make aubot able to accept data from it
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#3899 [23:56] <Kealper> woh
#3900 [23:56] <Kealper> just hooked my headphones up to my sound card instead of my onboard sound where they are usually on
#3901 [23:56] <lemon-rev> hahhaha, well did you hear statick?
#3902 [23:56] <Kealper> it's like a whole different thing...there is so much bass...and niceness....and it's like 2x louder
#3903 [23:57] <lemon-rev> hahahahahah
#3904 [23:57] <Kealper> Realtek onboard sound is garbage compared to a Creative Soundblaster card XD
#3905 [23:58] <lemon-rev> all depends on the driver set but yea
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#3907 [23:58] <Kealper> well the card in general can just recreate the sound better lol
#3908 [23:58] <genshou> well... yeah xD
#3909 [23:59] <Kealper> bad part....my motherboard is 3 years old...this sound card is like 10 years old...and it sounds so much better in every way compared to the 3 year old onboard sound
#3910 [23:59] <genshou> I now disable the drivers for onboard sound
#3911 [23:59] <genshou> the sound quality sucks even on a 'gaming' mobo, and onboard sound drivers are responsible for a lot of BSOD