#1 [00:00] <gartral> Gazionetadmin: wow
#2 [00:00] <Kealper> gartral: i guess, did you just want to see if people could connect to it?
#3 [00:00] <|Kiikun|> gartral: test as in how? see if its open?
#4 [00:00] <gartral> that, and also help me test my configuration.
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#6 [00:00] <Kealper> address?
#7 [00:00] <gartral> i'm offering people the chance too grief without reprocussion
#8 [00:01] <|Kiikun|> gartral: if your running it on that computer... its not open or not on 25565.
#9 [00:01] <gartral> kitsunet.dyndns-ip.vom
#10 [00:01] <gartral> no, the server is at a remote location
#11 [00:01] <Kealper> !check kitsunet.dyndns-ip.vom
#12 [00:01] <Kealper> wait
#13 [00:01] <Kealper> derp
#14 [00:01] <|Kiikun|> lol
#15 [00:01] <Kealper> !check kitsunet.dyndns-ip.com
#16 [00:01] <gartral> kitsunet.dyndns-ip.com
#17 [00:03] <gartral> that is a decent ping though
#18 [00:03] <Kealper> well, i can't really help stress test it, as i've currently got other things to get finished before i head off to bed :/
#19 [00:06] <gartral> my connection here suck
#20 [00:07] <Ryladine> kealper! You updated !check
#21 [00:07] <Ryladine> lol
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#23 [00:07] <sprog> I need help with my server. Only people in my house can connect'
#24 [00:08] <Ryladine> Did you port-forward?
#25 [00:08] <Ryladine> Fff Why do people do that?
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#27 [00:09] <guest4567897654> Yes, i did forward
#28 [00:09] <Kealper> guest4567897654: if you leave that page you are on, you leave the chat
#29 [00:09] <Ryladine> lol
#30 [00:09] <Ryladine> mib's :(
#31 [00:09] <guest4567897654> i got disconnected
#32 [00:09] <Kealper> oh, fair enough
#33 [00:09] <Ryladine> Alright Guest
#34 [00:10] <Ryladine> guest-0-35483: Did you port forward to the correct internal IP?
#35 [00:10] <Ryladine> Wrong guest name...
#36 [00:10] <guest4567897654> Yes i used an online program to check my ip
#37 [00:10] <Wug> lol
#38 [00:10] <Ryladine> guest4567897654: ...
#39 [00:10] <Ryladine> guest4567897654: Internal Ip?
#40 [00:10] <Wug> you know what would make esper so much better?
#41 [00:11] <Ryladine> What?
#42 [00:11] <Wug> enforce_prefix = "Noob";
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#44 [00:11] <Ryladine> LOL
#45 [00:11] <Kealper> xD
#46 [00:11] <Ryladine> guest4567897654: Open windows cmd.
#47 [00:11] <Ryladine> guest4567897654: type ipconfig
#48 [00:11] <Wug> i.e. when someone tries to use a registered account, instead of nicking to guest43985346 they will become Noob23782735
#49 [00:11] <guest4567897654> alright. I have it up
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#51 [00:11] <Ryladine> guest4567897654: Go to the top of the output and look for ipv4
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#53 [00:12] <guest4567897654> Is that the address I should use in the properties?
#54 [00:12] <Ryladine> guest4567897654: When you find that, look to the end of that line, and make sure that IP is the one you forwarded to.
#55 [00:12] <Ryladine> guest4567897654: Yes.
#56 [00:12] <guest4567897654> Alright, I will try that. Thank you for your assistance.
#57 [00:12] <Ryladine> guest4567897654: Make sure you did this on the machine that hosts the server.
#58 [00:12] <Ryladine> guest4567897654: WAit
#59 [00:13] <Ryladine> guest4567897654: No
#60 [00:13] <guest4567897654> Hmm?
#61 [00:13] <Ryladine> guest4567897654: Thats the one you should port-forward to.
#62 [00:13] <Ryladine> guest4567897654: Leave the one in properties blank
#63 [00:13] <guest4567897654> Alright
#64 [00:13] <Ketsueki> ... Are the minecraft login servers down?
#65 [00:13] <guest4567897654> ok
#66 [00:13] <Ryladine> !isup
#67 [00:13] <Ryladine> I got it wrong again :(
#68 [00:13] <Kealper> !isdown
#69 [00:13] <GreyBot> Kealper: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#70 [00:13] * Ryladine walks off muttering to himself
#70 [00:13] <Kealper> lol
#71 [00:13] <Ryladine> lol
#72 [00:14] * Ryladine thinks guest port-forwarded to his external IP
#72 [00:14] <Ryladine> :)
#73 [00:15] <Ryladine> Lol whats with the breakroom topic?
#74 [00:15] <Kealper> lol
#75 [00:15] <Wug> it happened
#76 [00:16] <Ryladine> Guest you still with us or did you break your router?
#77 [00:16] * Ryladine wanders off to write some more useful alias's since he can't make a bot but is too lazy to type it all over and over again
#77 [00:17] <guest4567897654> Im still here
#78 [00:17] <Ketsueki> failed to verify username! [internal error java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out] reads like the login server is down to me.
#79 [00:17] <Ketsueki> !paid GreyVulpine
#80 [00:17] <Ketsueki> I think that right there is explenation enough
#81 [00:18] <guest4567897654> Thanks for the help Ryladine, it worked.
#82 [00:18] <Ryladine> np
#83 [00:18] <Kealper> Ketsueki: odd...is that in the server console?
#84 [00:19] <Ketsueki> Kealper: client error message on reload x.x
#85 [00:19] <RiGi> Ryladine: you don't need to write a bot..you can just use eggdrop with one of the tcl scripts available
#86 [00:19] <RiGi> I'm using the same
#87 [00:19] <Ryladine> No I don't I can just write an alias XD
#88 [00:19] <Kealper> Ketsueki: does this say "bad login" for you? https://login.minecraft.net/
#89 [00:20] <Ketsueki> Yes it says Bad login
#90 [00:20] <Ryladine> Why work hard when I can use a command and do the same thing?
#91 [00:20] <Kealper> Ketsueki: no idea then O.o
#92 [00:20] <RiGi> Ryladine: chm..later on another aspects can show on.. and you will realize that it's not enough anymore
#93 [00:20] <RiGi> :)
#94 [00:21] <Ketsueki> Kealper: I can also log out and back in on the website
#95 [00:21] <Ryladine> Meh lol I'll deal with it when it comes to that point, right now i don't need many
#96 [00:22] <Ketsueki> If I could rename my bloody username to the /display/ name I'd intended to use later I could just show you with !paid in here.
#97 [00:22] * Kealper isn't sure what you mean
#97 [00:23] <Ketsueki> When you sign up for minecraft it doesn't tell you you're making a /display/ name and not an /account/ name.
#98 [00:23] <Kealper> oh, yeah
#99 [00:24] <Kealper> luckily for me, i had put "Kealper" as my username out of habbit for forums that would do the same lol
#100 [00:24] <Ketsueki> So right now my minecraft 'username' breaks the primary rule I have for display names in gamer/etc internet space; NEVER attach RL information; this helps insulate me from drama.
#101 [00:25] <Wug> apparently theres a module in esper's services that brings chanserv into channels
#102 [00:25] <Ketsueki> Kealper: I treated it like STEAM; a private name for the account information and a public facing /display/ name.
#103 [00:25] <Wug> its a seecrit hidden set command
#104 [00:25] <Wug> it also seems to require oper or not be loaded
#105 [00:25] <Kealper> yeah, a ham radio friend of mine used his ham call sign for his username...he didn't realize it would also be his display name.....
#106 [00:26] <Kealper> and every registered ham radio operator has their call sign inside a public database that has their real name and street address in it...
#107 [00:27] <Ketsueki> Kealper: I think the difference at a mental threshold is: I /paid/ therefore the /login/ should match my professional side's typical patterning (usually something like FiMiLastname )
#108 [00:27] <Kealper> so to anyone who recognises it as a call sign in Minecraft on any server he's on can get his full name and where he lives ._.
#109 [00:28] <Ketsueki> Granted my FMLast happens to be a rather sizable set. One time I worked at a call center and everyone else there just told me to use my actual freaking name since it was already anonomised enough.
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#111 [00:28] <Ketsueki> HOWEVER, I do not want to establish minecraft cred with that profile.
#112 [00:29] <Kealper> but yeah, i do hope that they provide a method to change usernames, or separate username from in-game name before or at full release...it's definitely something needed :/
#113 [00:30] <Ketsueki> It it isn't in 1.9's full release I /am/ going to do everything I can to email everyone I can figure out a likely address for, and test out any other ways of getting a message in to them that I may have documented.
#114 [00:38] <Kealper> Firefox's UI is pretty intense...the entire thing is OpenGL
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#116 [00:39] <Ketsueki> Kealper: BTW the login issue resolved it's self
#117 [00:39] <Kealper> odd
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#120 [00:49] * |Kiikun| sees nothing worng with server and that its fairly unleaggy.
#120 [00:51] <gartral> who was sennyotai?
#121 [00:51] <Kealper> genshou
#122 [00:51] <Kealper> i think
#123 [00:51] <Kealper> wait
#124 [00:51] <gartral> genshou: thank you for helping me test
#125 [00:51] <Kealper> no, kiikun
#126 [00:51] <gartral> oop
#127 [00:51] <gartral> |Kiikun|: thanks for helping me test
#128 [00:52] <|Kiikun|> gartral: no prob :3
#129 [00:52] <gartral> any ideas for mods, like a better tp and something too control what mobs can spawn/do what?
#130 [00:53] <|Kiikun|> gartral: how about that region control mod? forget what its called. basicly create protected zones where certain people have authority
#131 [00:53] <gartral> |Kiikun|: your welcome too play whenever you want, I'll e backing that particular wold up every day, and there are going too be times where it'll be down, or password protected, but that's cause i host a freinds world sometimes too play with em
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#133 [00:54] <|Kiikun|> gartral: sokay. i play on oldtopman's and nyts servers anyway :P
#134 [00:54] * |Kiikun| also dislikes lag+mob fighting
#134 [00:54] * genshou steals a cookie from Kealper
#134 [00:54] <Kealper> :<
#135 [00:55] <gartral> |Kiikun|: I have a castle on nyt's somewhere, unless he reset the world
#136 [00:55] <genshou> I'm learning about the Equivalent Exchange mod atm :>
#137 [00:55] <|Kiikun|> gartral: i dont think he did.. he created new worlds to play on.
#138 [00:56] <gartral> |Kiikun|: can i have the address for his server
#139 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> gartral: to nyts? ah.. he's not here.
#140 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> gartral: i also think he never upgraded from 1.7.3
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#147 [01:15] <|Kiikun|> Holy Split!
#148 [01:15] * Kealper sighs
#148 [01:15] <Kealper> !unload mod_bot
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#150 [01:16] <Kealper> that'll just end up getting aubot kicked for flood once this fixes itself lol
#151 [01:16] <|Kiikun|> dont want aubot to break on unsplit?
#152 [01:16] <|Kiikun|> lol
#153 [01:16] <Kealper> actually
#154 [01:16] <Kealper> aubot is getting kicked for flood...for SCIENCE!
#155 [01:16] <Kealper> !load mod_bot
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#270 [01:17] <Kealper> it should rejoin momentarily
#271 [01:17] <Kealper> lol
#272 [01:17] <|Kiikun|> :P
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#274 [01:18] <Kealper> wanted to see how much that rose my total upload rate at when it started sending
#275 [01:18] <Kealper> only peaked to around 40KB/s for one second and then it got kicked for flood lol
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#277 [01:21] <|Kiikun|> lol... 'thanks for flying esper!'
#278 [01:21] <|Kiikun|> can our cushins be used as flotation devices?
#279 [01:21] <Kealper> possibly
#280 [01:21] <|Kiikun|> and shoudl i keep a parachute in reach at all times? :P
#281 [01:22] <Kealper> you'd have to ask the stuartess...i mean flea
#282 [01:22] <Kealper> :P
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#286 [01:30] <Wug> services work
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#288 [01:42] <gartral> does anyone know if multiverse is updated for 1.8.x?
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#290 [01:43] <Kealper> might be a better question for #bukkit
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#292 [01:44] <gartral> cool, thanks
#293 [01:48] <Thrae> gartral: 1185 is the official CB 1.8.x compatible release -- http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/multiverse-core/
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#295 [01:49] <gartral> Thrae: yes i know, that's what i'm running
#296 [01:50] <Thrae> gartral: Yes, just making sure you understood what it says under "Recent files" :)
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#298 [01:55] <FeiRuoWa> anybody know anything about this login error?
#299 [01:56] <Kealper> FeiRuoWa: what login error?
#300 [01:56] <FeiRuoWa> i'd heard last night that somebody was getting a login refusal on their mac for a username/password combo the site recognized, and i'm now having the same issue.,
#301 [01:56] <Kealper> hmm...
#302 [01:57] <Kealper> and it worked for you yesterday?
#303 [01:58] <Ketsueki> FeiRuoWa: I just had that on my SMP server
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#305 [01:59] <Ketsueki> FeiRuoWa: have the server try downloading from https://login.minecraft.net Mine errored once, retried and the DNS worked the second time.
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#309 [02:08] <FeiRuoWa> i wasn't on yesterday
#310 [02:08] <FeiRuoWa> have which server try downloading?
#311 [02:09] <Ketsueki> You're trying to login to an SMP server right?
#312 [02:09] <Ketsueki> Otherwise just do it on your desktop
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#314 [02:09] <barul> hi there
#315 [02:09] <Ryladine> Hello
#316 [02:10] <barul> i'm trying to launch minecraft from a 64 bits gentoo linux installation, and i've got this error : http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=BhaYhmTx
#317 [02:11] <barul> on another 64b installation, i don't have the problem :/
#318 [02:11] <FeiRuoWa> no, i'm trying to start up initially
#319 [02:11] <FeiRuoWa> ooh, yours is more exciting than mine
#320 [02:11] <FeiRuoWa> i just get "Login Failed"
#321 [02:11] <FeiRuoWa> i got in and played some from my web browser
#322 [02:12] <FeiRuoWa> but my installed version's not working
#323 [02:12] <FeiRuoWa> might just reinstall
#324 [02:12] <Ryladine> Two solutions come to mind when I look at that line.
#325 [02:12] <Ryladine> One, update your graphics drivers because one of the files mention has to do with open GL.
#326 [02:13] <Ryladine> Two, Update java because it's a java error.
#327 [02:13] <Ryladine> Three, if both of those fail reinstall minecraft. If that fails come back later and maybe someone who knows more about the errors and linux will be here to help.
#328 [02:14] <Ryladine> That was all to barul
#329 [02:14] <Ryladine> FeiRuoWa: I wasn't here to see the details of you problem, can you explain it again?
#330 [02:15] <barul> got the same drivers version on my 2 installations, it works on one, and i've got the latest java version :/
#331 [02:15] <Ryladine> Ahh
#332 [02:15] <Ryladine> barul: You are on java 7?
#333 [02:15] <barul> yep
#334 [02:15] <Ryladine> barul Theres your problem, downgrade to 6.
#335 [02:16] <Ryladine> barul 7 is know to cause a large ammount of issue with minecraft.
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#337 [02:16] <barul> got the same version on my computers :(
#338 [02:17] <Ryladine> Reguardless, you should downgrade the one you play minecraft on. Then if that doesn't fix it, reisntall miencraft, and check your drivers.
#339 [02:17] <Ryladine> minecraft*
#340 [02:18] <Ryladine> I don't know much about linux so thats the only advice I can offer, but I can tell you if you tell ANY of the other helpers your running java 7 they will tell you to downgrade it just like I did.
#341 [02:19] <barul> on my laptop i've got java 7, and it works…
#342 [02:19] <gartral> Ryladine barul yea, java 7 makes minecraft UNPLAYABLE on linx
#343 [02:19] <FeiRuoWa> Ryladine: i can't log in from my client, but the website recognizes me
#344 [02:19] <barul> but i'll stay here and wait for some linux helpers, thanks :)
#345 [02:19] <gartral> linux*
#346 [02:20] <Ryladine> Really? I wasn't aware the issue was that severe gartral
#347 [02:20] <Ryladine> FeiRuoWa: Whats the exact message your getting?
#348 [02:20] <FeiRuoWa> "Login Failed"
#349 [02:21] <gartral> Ryladine: it simply makes the minecraft launcher not launch, with a page of errors longer than my mother's beginning-of-month shopping list
#350 [02:21] <FeiRuoWa> in italicized red letters
#351 [02:21] <Delphi> I'm having the same issue as Fei :(
#352 [02:21] <Ryladine> Guess he's not going to wait for a helper that knows linux
#353 [02:21] <FeiRuoWa> approximately size 18 type
#354 [02:21] <Ryladine> lol
#355 [02:21] <Ryladine> I didn't need that specific
#356 [02:21] <Delphi> I've changed my password, and it still says log in failed.
#357 [02:21] <FeiRuoWa> welp, you said exact :p
#358 [02:21] <Ryladine> FeiRuoWa: Did you disable your firewalls/ AV software?
#359 [02:21] <FeiRuoWa> i haven't changed them while i've had minecraf
#360 [02:22] <FeiRuoWa> *minecraft
#361 [02:22] <Ryladine> Delphi, that message applies to you as well.
#362 [02:22] <Delphi> Yes, I've played before, nothing should have changed.
#363 [02:22] <Delphi> Unless I need to install a new version or something?
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#365 [02:22] <Ryladine> FeiRuoWa: If your AV updated it could decide minecraft is a problem and stop it.
#366 [02:22] <Ryladine> Same to you delphi
#367 [02:22] <gartral> mcaffe insist's minecraft is a PuP
#368 [02:22] <Ryladine> Indeed.
#369 [02:23] <Ryladine> Mcafee is a pain
#370 [02:23] <Delphi> I have everything off short of Firefox and Minecraft.
#371 [02:23] <Ryladine> FeiRuoWa: Delphi: Both of you try disabling your firewalls/ Av software. Then try again.
#372 [02:23] <FeiRuoWa> if i disable my antivirus, i lose internet
#373 [02:23] <Ryladine> ........
#374 [02:23] <FeiRuoWa> school connection.
#375 [02:24] <Ryladine> Your... at a school?
#376 [02:24] <FeiRuoWa> yes? is that really very weird?
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#378 [02:24] <Ryladine> Did you contact the IT to make sure they did not disable minecraft VIA their hardware?
#379 [02:24] <FeiRuoWa> i'm not on school hardware.
#380 [02:24] <barul> damn it it was that
#381 [02:24] <FeiRuoWa> and people were playing at lunch
#382 [02:25] <Ryladine> Lol
#383 [02:25] <barul> with java 6 it works, thanks !
#384 [02:25] <Ryladine> barul N
#385 [02:25] <Ryladine> barul np*
#386 [02:25] <FeiRuoWa> our IT people are on our official server, anyways...the likelihood of them disabling minecraft is slim to none
#387 [02:26] <Ryladine> Yes, it is unlikely then. But remember that it is possible to disable a site, and a port, VIA comercial grade routers, and even personal routers.
#388 [02:26] <Ryladine> You should still ask if we can't resolve your issue tonight.
#389 [02:26] <FeiRuoWa> other people on the same router aren't having any trouble
#390 [02:27] <FeiRuoWa> i messaged neighbors first ;)
#391 [02:27] <Ryladine> FeiRuoWa: Delphi: I'm going to run down a list of common issues, listen closely and answer as quickly as you can.
#392 [02:27] <FeiRuoWa> k
#393 [02:27] <Ryladine> FeiRuoWa: Delphi: You have disabled all AV/ Firewalls or made exceptions if disabling is not applicable?
#394 [02:29] <Ryladine> Voxelhead, don't bother messaging me if you can't use propper spelling please.
#395 [02:29] <Delphi> Going to the website, re-downloading the software, and getting the update that way fixed the problem :).
#396 [02:29] <Delphi> Thanks anyhow though ^^
#397 [02:29] <Ryladine> FeiRuoWa: Delphi: Which software?
#398 [02:29] <Delphi> the launcher
#399 [02:29] <Ryladine> A
#400 [02:29] <Ryladine> Ah*
#401 [02:29] <FeiRuoWa> made an exception, yes. also, AVGT
#402 [02:29] <FeiRuoWa> *AVG
#403 [02:29] <Ryladine> I aslways start with firewalls and java XD
#404 [02:29] <Delphi> I guess it'd just been too long since I'd last tried to log in.
#405 [02:30] <Ryladine> Then move onto the other things.
#406 [02:30] <FeiRuoWa> my download is taking several hours, because a large number of people have research papers due tomorrow
#407 [02:30] <Ryladine> FeiRuoWa: What version of java do you run?
#408 [02:30] <Ryladine> ??> FeiRuoWa java/version
#409 [02:30] <VoxelHead> FeiRuoWa: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#410 [02:31] <VoxelHead> FeiRuoWa: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#411 [02:32] <FeiRuoWa> the new doanload finished before the java version did
#412 [02:32] <FeiRuoWa> it works
#413 [02:32] <Ryladine> Alright, I'll have to remember that for the future.
#414 [02:33] <Ryladine> I'm glad getting a new launcher fixed it for you.
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#416 [02:36] <minecraft_hi> hi
#417 [02:37] <minecraft_hi> hello?
#418 [02:37] <minecraft_hi> anyone there
#419 [02:37] <minecraft_hi> hello! :d ;d ;d ;d ;d ;d ;d ;d ;d :d ;d ;d ;dheello! :dd ;d ;d ;d ;d ;d ;;d ;d ;d ;d ;d ;d ;d
#420 [02:38] <minecraft_hi> hello! :d :d :d ;d ;d :d :d :d ;d :d :d :d :dhello! :d ;d ;d ;d :d :d ;d ;d ;d :d ;d ;d :dhello! :d :d ;d ;d ;d ;d :d ;d ;d :d :d ;d ;dhello! :d ;d :d :d :d :d :d ;d :d ;d ;d ;d ;dhello! :d :d :d ;d :d ;d ;d ;d ;d :d :d :d :dhhhhhheeeelllllllllllllllllllo!!! :ddddddd ;;ddd :;;::;;;;dd ::;;dddddd ;;ddddd ;:;;:dddddd ;::::;::;;;:;:::;::;;;;::;;ddd :d ;d ;;;d :d :d :dhello! :d :d
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#423 [02:46] * |Kiikun| drowned...
#423 [02:48] * Ryladine drags kii out and performs overly dramatic cpr
#423 [02:48] <|Kiikun|> :/
#424 [02:48] <|Kiikun|> did you manage to drag my diamond pick up?
#425 [02:49] * Ryladine hides a pick behind his back
#425 [02:49] <Ryladine> What pick?
#426 [02:49] <|Kiikun|> lol.
#427 [02:49] <|Kiikun|> i got trapped under the ocean in what i thought was a ravine entrance.. was just a collapsed part of a cave... and couldnt get up out of the downwards flow
#428 [02:50] <Ryladine> Nice
#429 [02:51] <|Kiikun|> i was just exploring and collinging surface materials..
#430 [02:51] <|Kiikun|> biggest loss was the pick. well picks... had 3 unudes iton picks :/
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#433 [03:01] <gartral> |Kiikun|: well at least they were iron, not diamond
#434 [03:01] <|Kiikun|> gartral: 1 was diamond :P
#435 [03:01] <gartral> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu
#436 [03:01] * |Kiikun| only ever makes 1 diamond pick and all other tools iron.
#436 [03:02] <|Kiikun|> eh! i had 17 diamonds since :P
#437 [03:02] <gartral> |Kiikun|: also, i installed worldgaurd too disable creeper explosions destroying stff
#438 [03:04] <FeiRuoWa> thanks for the help, Ryladine
#439 [03:04] <FeiRuoWa> goodnight, all!
#440 [03:04] <FeiRuoWa> sleeptime!
#441 [03:07] <gartral> |Kiikun|: would you like too play on my server some more?
#442 [03:07] * |Kiikun| has too many problems with agros in smp <.<
#442 [03:07] <Ryladine> Gartral thats a bit heavy of a plugin just to stop creeper explosions..
#443 [03:07] <Ryladine> Why not just use anticreeper?
#444 [03:14] <gartral> Ryladine: cause i also needed it for a few other tings, like player towns, and I wanna setup an actual ful-blown server
#445 [03:15] <Ryladine> ah
#446 [03:16] <gartral> Ryladine: would yo like too see my server?
#447 [03:17] <gartral> you*
#448 [03:18] <Ryladine> uh
#449 [03:18] <Ryladine> sure if MC will lauch
#450 [03:18] <gartral> actually, i do want a group of 6-7 people too come in and stress test my server, any takers?
#451 [03:18] <Ryladine> I've got a game and a virtual machine running ubuntu open
#452 [03:18] <Ryladine> XD
#453 [03:19] <gartral> Ryladine: asuming you can get in my address is kitsunet.dyndns-ip.com
#454 [03:19] <Ryladine> You have an IP?
#455 [03:19] <gartral> no port needed
#456 [03:19] <Ryladine> I tihnk I joined that a bit ago...
#457 [03:19] <Ryladine> lol
#458 [03:20] * |Kiikun| reads 1.9 changes... and screams!!!
#458 [03:20] <|Kiikun|> no0oo!!! what does notch have against glass ;_;
#459 [03:20] <gartral> ??
#460 [03:21] <|Kiikun|> 1.9pre2 makes it so glass banes are unrecoverable like the full blocks ;_:
#461 [03:21] <|Kiikun|> *panes
#462 [03:21] <gartral> wth
#463 [03:22] <gartral> Ryladine: you in?
#464 [03:32] <|Kiikun|> o.o;;
#465 [03:42] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: couldnt resist shoving you into the corner :P
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#469 [03:56] <gartral> |Kiikun|: where'd ya poof too
#470 [03:56] <|Kiikun|> OFF SERVER :p
#471 [03:56] <|Kiikun|> gah
#472 [03:56] <|Kiikun|> gotta go to bed
#473 [03:57] <|Kiikun|> and if i stay up im swear im going creative and turning a section of your world into a testing lab :P
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#475 [03:57] <gartral> that's fine
#476 [03:57] <gartral> you could use worldedit, too
#477 [03:58] <|Kiikun|> the only worldedit commands i know are //fill and //set :P
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#480 [04:01] <gartral> |Kiikun|: I know how to use //replace, set, polygon selection, and overlay
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#482 [04:03] <Apollyna> hello?
#483 [04:03] <|Kiikun|> Apollyna: hi
#484 [04:03] <Apollyna> Can you help me with a wiki issue?
#485 [04:04] <|Kiikun|> Apollyna: we help with the game... not the wiki o.o; ask an we may bebable to answer anyway
#486 [04:05] <Apollyna> well, I just registered today, and tried to fill out my user page. I wrote a nice little bio, and when I tried to submit it, it said I was autobanned for creating "large spam pages"
#487 [04:06] <Apollyna> and I know this isn't the appropriate place, but... literally no one else is in any channel
#488 [04:06] <gartral> Ryladine: did you get kicked?
#489 [04:07] <|Kiikun|> Apollyna: it was probably something that triggered their banning-flags
#490 [04:07] <|Kiikun|> like massive amounts of links <.<
#491 [04:07] <Apollyna> oh.. well, I put three links at the bottom to my other profiles... but it didn't mention links specifically
#492 [04:08] <gartral> ohh f-ing DERP. I put the other world in the WRONG folder :P
#493 [04:08] <Apollyna> minecraft profiles, I mean. like the forums, planet minecraft, and then my deviantart
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#496 [04:13] <|Kiikun|> Apollyna: probably autoban.. was that your first wikiedit?
#497 [04:13] <Apollyna> yes
#498 [04:13] <Apollyna> well
#499 [04:13] <Apollyna> actually my first was a spell correct on an unrelated page
#500 [04:13] <RickRolled> I wrote wrong e-mail and i redeemed the code so, now how can i change my email ?
#501 [04:13] <Apollyna> but other than that, yeah
#502 [04:14] <|Kiikun|> Apollyna: yeah. sounds like 'large new page' + 'multiple external links' + 'new user' or something.
#503 [04:14] <Apollyna> what a welcome xD
#504 [04:14] <|Kiikun|> RickRolled: you cant change the email. you can revoke payment for the code to cancel it and buy a new code
#505 [04:15] <RickRolled> I didnt buy a code, I redeemed it.
#506 [04:15] <RickRolled> Ah, I understood you.
#507 [04:15] <RickRolled> But How can I revoke it ?
#508 [04:15] <|Kiikun|> RickRolled: then youre boned until some system is put in place to allow email address changes.
#509 [04:16] <RickRolled> Shit...
#510 [04:16] <|Kiikun|> RickRolled: revoke means call paypal/yourbank and tell them you are disputing that specific payment.
#511 [04:16] <|Kiikun|> RickRolled: they take the money back, mojang cancels the code.
#512 [04:16] <RickRolled> ...
#513 [04:17] <|Kiikun|> RickRolled: then you create new account with right email and rebuy game
#514 [04:18] <|Kiikun|> RickRolled: those are basicly your only options :P
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#525 [05:00] <gartral> anyone here good with multiverse?
#526 [05:10] <mollstam> anyone having trouble with account getting brute forced?
#527 [05:11] <|Kiikun|> someone had their gift code forced.
#528 [05:11] <|Kiikun|> ive been seeing more and more 'need to change email' requests though
#529 [05:12] <Ryladine> Gartral: What do you need to know about it?
#530 [05:12] <Ryladine> I've set it up before and know how to use it
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#533 [05:20] <|Kiikun|> Shepowken.... Sheep-Pig-Cow-Chicken....
#534 [05:20] <Ryladine> Woof!
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#536 [05:29] * |Kiikun| breeds all the passives into one creature!
#536 [05:30] * |Kiikun| goes to bed...
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#538 [05:52] <gray> if i refuse the applet, how do i accept it later on??
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#540 [05:54] <Vurms> Hi there, wondering if anyone could help me with a little problem? I haven't played minecraft in quite some time, but when I tried to log into the game it kept saying "login failed." The username and password are correct for sure, so does anyone have any idea what the problem might be?
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#542 [05:59] <TheNoodle> Vurms, redownload the client.
#543 [05:59] <Vurms> all right, thanks.
#544 [06:02] <Apollyna> Anyone good with redstone?
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#547 [06:12] <SinZ> baby creeper, aye
#548 [06:12] <Baby_Creeper> Hallo.
#549 [06:12] <SinZ> does that mean your weaker? and smaller crater
#550 [06:13] <Baby_Creeper> I haven't developed any gunpowder in me, yet...
#551 [06:13] <SinZ> Ah, so really easy to kill >:D
#552 [06:13] <Apollyna> I'll take that as a no
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#563 [07:08] <MeMM00> hello?
#564 [07:08] <MeMM00> anybody home?
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#567 [07:08] <ratakone> hey
#568 [07:08] <MeMM00> hello?
#569 [07:09] <MeMM00> wtf why are there so many people in this room?
#570 [07:09] <TheNoodle> Because we like watching you.
#571 [07:09] <ratakone> Do i need to generate new world to my server because old map was generated in 1.8.1? O_o
#572 [07:09] <TheNoodle> Yes, you.
#573 [07:09] <TheNoodle> Ratakone, the terrain generator will change for 1.9.
#574 [07:10] <ratakone> aww ok
#575 [07:10] <MeMM00> well to whom can i start asking questions?
#576 [07:10] <TheNoodle> Anyone :p
#577 [07:10] <TheNoodle> just ask.
#578 [07:10] <MeMM00> well my friends have this 1.9 pre 2 server
#579 [07:10] <MeMM00> and i cant seem to join
#580 [07:10] <ratakone> check server properties...
#581 [07:11] <MeMM00> how?
#582 [07:11] <ratakone> . . .
#583 [07:11] <ratakone> you host it?
#584 [07:11] <MeMM00> well my friends have this 1.9 pre 2 server
#585 [07:11] <MeMM00> not me
#586 [07:11] <ratakone> ok
#587 [07:12] <ratakone> they have bought MC but you havent?
#588 [07:12] <MeMM00> what do i have to do to be able to join them
#589 [07:12] <MeMM00> i have bought mc
#590 [07:12] <ratakone> ok
#591 [07:12] <ratakone> uhmm
#592 [07:12] <ratakone> when you try to join, what does it say?
#593 [07:13] <MeMM00> outdated client
#594 [07:13] <ratakone> lol
#595 [07:13] <ratakone> update your client
#596 [07:13] <MeMM00> i did...
#597 [07:13] <ratakone> you have 1.9pre1 i think
#598 [07:13] <ratakone> and server is 1.9pre2
#599 [07:14] <ratakone> try to install the newest version...
#600 [07:14] <MeMM00> i force update
#601 [07:14] <MeMM00> it reverts to 1.8.1
#602 [07:14] <ratakone> . . .
#603 [07:15] <ratakone> yes
#604 [07:15] <ratakone> but
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#606 [07:15] <ratakone> you have to downlaod it from minecraftforum...
#607 [07:15] <MeMM00> link?
#608 [07:15] <ratakone> bit.ly/qJt7jd
#609 [07:15] <ratakone> that
#610 [07:16] <ratakone> then r
#611 [07:16] <MeMM00> Nice!
#612 [07:17] <MeMM00> it worked!
#613 [07:17] <MeMM00> thanks bro
#614 [07:18] <ratakone> No problem!
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#616 [07:27] <huggiminer> can somebody help me? I play minecraft a long time...but since yesterday i can't log in the game :(
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#618 [07:28] <ratakone> uhmm
#619 [07:28] <ratakone> never happened to meh
#620 [07:28] <ratakone> try to forceupdate
#621 [07:29] <huggiminer> "login failed" ...
#622 [07:29] <ratakone> uhmm
#623 [07:29] <huggiminer> forceupdate?
#624 [07:29] <ratakone> ye
#625 [07:29] <ratakone> in launcher
#626 [07:30] <huggiminer> its like i entered a wrong password but on the official minecraft webside it works O.o
#627 [07:32] <huggiminer> du you know how to contact the official mojang support ?
#628 [07:32] <Opeth> support@mojang.com
#629 [07:33] <huggiminer> thx
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#631 [07:37] <huggiminer> i cant find a support on the webside of mojang
#632 [07:39] <TheNoodle> ....
#633 [07:39] <TheNoodle> <@Opeth> support@mojang.com
#634 [07:39] <Opeth> dingding
#635 [07:39] <TheNoodle> That's an email huggiminer
#636 [07:40] <TheNoodle> And yeah...realised after I'd rpessed enter :p sorry opeth :p
#637 [07:40] * Opeth facedesks
#637 [07:40] <TheNoodle> oh noes...I did it again....
#638 [07:40] <TheNoodle> :D
#639 [07:41] <huggiminer> oh..ok, i will try it
#640 [07:42] <huggiminer> i want to play 1.9 and i cant log in X(
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#642 [07:44] <ratakone> huggiminer
#643 [07:45] <ratakone> with mineshafter or Anjo Caido launcher you can..
#644 [07:45] <ratakone> ore just offline
#645 [07:45] <ratakone> or*
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#651 [07:53] <peeves> i bought minecraft during the 25% off. where do i download it
#652 [07:53] <ratakone> minecraft.net
#653 [07:54] <peeves> but where on minecraft.net
#654 [07:54] <ratakone> downloads
#655 [07:54] <peeves> ok il try
#656 [07:55] <peeves> give me the link to download
#657 [07:56] <BlackGyver> DUH
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#665 [08:19] <Napoleon> Hey. Looking for some help with minecraft not signing me in. Signed into minecraft.net fine, launcher doesn't let me sign in though (Only playing offline is available)
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#672 [09:03] <darhossie> Hi
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#674 [09:04] <T0mmen> i have a problem with minecraft
#675 [09:04] <darhossie> I have inherited a MineScraft world off someone and have it running fine under McMyAdmin on Debian...
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#677 [09:04] <darhossie> And I cannot for teh life of me find the "save files" - any ideas
#678 [09:05] <darhossie> not under /srv/minecraft/.minecraft/saves where they *should* be
#679 [09:05] <darhossie> So other software having difficulty
#680 [09:06] <DreadLindwyrm> What on earth is McMyAdmin? It doesn't sound like an official client.
#681 [09:06] <darhossie> World is at: /srv/minecraft/McMyAdmin/Minecraft/
#682 [09:06] <T0mmen> my problem is that every time i play minecraft 1.8 my game crashes and i get a hs.err.pid file on my desktop
#683 [09:06] <darhossie> Nope - just sofwtare to help adnmin teh server
#684 [09:06] <darhossie> The minecraft server sits in the World dir listed
#685 [09:06] <T0mmen> help me
#686 [09:06] <T0mmen> please
#687 [09:07] <darhossie> But I only just threw on the McMyAdmin recently - the save files did not exist before... but it is SAVINg somewhere?!?!? Just can't work it out!
#688 [09:07] <DreadLindwyrm> T0mmen: Does it give an indication of what the error is?
#689 [09:08] <T0mmen> it is a error in the java runtime enviorment or something
#690 [09:08] <DreadLindwyrm> darhossie: You'd be best asking wherever you got it from where it is likely to be saving, or to try searching your machine for the world name.
#691 [09:08] <darhossie> The world is fine - it's in /srv/minecraft/McMyAdmin/Minecraft/world
#692 [09:08] <DreadLindwyrm> T0mmen: You could try updating java and see if that fixes it. If not, check how much memory you have.
#693 [09:09] <darhossie> Is that what is normally in teh SAVE file?
#694 [09:09] <T0mmen> oh and i have a fujitsu siemens with windows xp and the graphix card is ati radeon 9000
#695 [09:09] <darhossie> Is there a place - a config file to set the save?
#696 [09:09] <DreadLindwyrm> darhossie: the world file should be the save. Or at least it is with the normal server client.
#697 [09:09] <T0mmen> i have already updated java and i dont know how to check how much memory i have
#698 [09:10] <T0mmen> cuz im no good at computers :P
#699 [09:10] <almostroot> T0mmen: Put the entire contents of the error on pastebin.
#700 [09:10] <T0mmen> :H
#701 [09:10] <almostroot> ??> T0mmen pastebin
#702 [09:10] <VoxelHead> T0mmen: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#703 [09:10] <almostroot> darhossie: We do not support unofficial server mods or clients like McMyAdmin.
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#707 [09:13] <darhossie> Aye... no probs... understood - no mods going on yet! All it does is run the server and keep an eye on it.
#708 [09:13] <darhossie> But even without it... I cannot find teh save files
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#710 [09:13] <T0mmen> how does paste bin work?
#711 [09:14] <almostroot> darhossie: You're running a flimsily supported piece of window software that is being forced to run by a hacked together implementation of .net on a Linux system. Good luck.
#712 [09:14] <SinZ> you paste stuff in that, so its only a link insted of spamming
#713 [09:14] <almostroot> T0mmen: Just like VoxelHead said.
#714 [09:14] <almostroot> T0mmen: You submit a paste, give us the website address, we see it.
#715 [09:15] <T0mmen> http://pastebin.com/AThfzQ1S
#716 [09:16] <T0mmen> when does it come out
#717 [09:16] <T0mmen> ?
#718 [09:17] <anomaly_> when notch says it does
#719 [09:18] <darhossie> Between 18th of Oct and 18th of Nov - I would err on the later end of that spectrum
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#722 [09:34] <Ryladine> My, We're really uneeded now, just how much did kealper update AuBot
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#724 [09:35] <huggiminer> I can`t almost log in :(
#725 [09:37] <Ryladine> What do you mean by almost?
#726 [09:39] <huggiminer> i played the game 4 months...but since a few days i cant log in ...I dont know why...(my englisch is very bad because im rom germany ;D)
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#747 [10:49] <benzrf> hello
#748 [10:49] <benzrf> Aren't you speakercity?
#749 [10:49] <Thrae> Hi
#750 [10:49] <benzrf> hi
#751 [10:49] <Thrae> What?
#752 [10:49] <benzrf> I was talking to babycreeper
#753 [10:50] <benzrf> I had a guy named speakercity on my server just now, and I think that's him
#754 [10:50] <benzrf> Can you look at my video PLEASE? It's only a minute long... :P
#755 [10:50] <benzrf> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCnY2DWBGuk
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#757 [10:51] <benzrf> brb
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#759 [10:51] <Treykor> Anyone there?
#760 [10:51] <Thrae> benzrf: This isn't really a general "chat" channel, it's a help channel. There's #minecraft and #mcchatter
#761 [10:51] <Thrae> Treykor: Yes?
#762 [10:52] <benzrf> mkay
#763 [10:52] <benzrf> I was just desperate
#764 [10:52] <benzrf> I actually did come here in the hopes of helping newbs tho
#765 [10:53] <Treykor> Well anyways I try to buy minecraft with a debit card and when i press okay when done filling out info it goes to verification code so i put my number down and pressed send and never got i waited 8 hours to get the text but didnt get it
#766 [10:53] <dylanbarberdude> on this server i asked owner to jail me for 5 minutes so i could see the jail but he completly forgot about me. i now cant play on thevserver (ot talk)
#767 [10:53] <Thrae> Treykor: Hmm, are you using Paypal or Moneybrokers? Try the other one if one doesn't work. First check if the money was actually debited from the card.
#768 [10:54] <Thrae> Treykor: Unfortunately Mojang has no control over how your bank and the escrow services work.
#769 [10:54] <Treykor> Well moneybookers, Its a Visa Debit card, Bought it from walmart and put $25 in there
#770 [10:55] <benzrf> dylanbarberdude: There's really nothing you can do except het help from an admin
#771 [10:55] <benzrf> dylanbarberdude: It's not like there's really any other solution
#772 [10:55] <Thrae> Treykor: Should be a number on the back of the card where you can check stuff over the phone if you haven't setup an Internet account.
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#775 [10:56] <Bev> Can VISA gift cards be refunded at all? Because I just completely wasted my money on a game that refuses to work.
#776 [10:56] <Treykor> Oh, Well I called the number and they activated my account so im good to go, And i cant make paypal because it asks for checkings account which i also dont have
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#778 [10:57] <benzrf> hello
#779 [10:57] <mib_uh2dbd> Hello
#780 [10:57] <benzrf> sup
#781 [10:57] <Thrae> Treykor: The problem is with Moneybrookers and VISA -- Mojang itself has no such confirmation by text or anything to do with your phone. Try calling the number and checking recent transactions.
#782 [10:57] <alonl> hi
#783 [10:57] <alonl> anyone wanna help me make minecraft work?
#784 [10:57] <Thrae> Bev: Do you want to try and troubleshoot the problem first?
#785 [10:58] <alonl> Im getting bwod and a lot of other problems
#786 [10:58] <Treykor> Well there was no number there
#787 [10:58] <Bev> I just had my friends walk me through eveery possible solution.
#788 [10:58] <Treykor> All it says to do is put my number
#789 [10:58] <alonl> already tried every trivial solution i could find
#790 [10:58] <Bev> All drivers and Java are up to date, I did the appdata thing, everything.
#791 [10:58] <Bev> The game absolutely will not open.
#792 [10:58] <Bev> I can log in, but then it commits suicide.
#793 [10:58] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#794 [10:59] <Thrae> Bev: We have a large database of possible fixes most people don't know about. Is your system Windows?
#795 [10:59] <Bev> Yes, Windows 7 32-bit. on an iMac machine.
#796 [10:59] <Thrae> alonl: You're getting a BSOD?
#797 [10:59] <dylanbarberdude> wtf
#798 [10:59] <Treykor> So Will American express work fine?
#799 [10:59] <alonl> More of a black screen of death
#800 [10:59] <dylanbarberdude> wimdows on imac machinw
#801 [10:59] <dylanbarberdude> wtf
#802 [11:00] <alonl> my gpu seems to just cut out
#803 [11:00] <Bev> My old computer died and the mac was a gift from my brother.
#804 [11:00] <alonl> and I have to reboot
#805 [11:00] <Thrae> Treykor: Up to Moneybrookers -- like I said, Mojang has no control over it
#806 [11:00] <Thrae> ??> Bev win/dxdiag
#807 [11:00] <alonl> Im on a Windows 7 x64 machine
#808 [11:00] <VoxelHead> Bev: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#809 [11:00] <VoxelHead> Bev: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#810 [11:00] <Treykor> So only paypal?
#811 [11:00] <Thrae> Bev: Let's take a look at your hardware
#812 [11:00] <alonl> 6gbs of ram, gpu is hd4770
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#814 [11:00] <Thrae> alonl: You follow the DxDiag instructions VoxelHead just sent out too
#815 [11:00] <Treykor> Is Mojang Control over Paypal?
#816 [11:01] <Bev> I'm usong a crappy Mac keyboard, there's no Windows key
#817 [11:01] <Thrae> Treykor: No. Those are escrow services which process payment for millions of companies and people.
#818 [11:01] <Thrae> Bev: Go into Task Manager and then File->Run
#819 [11:02] <Treykor> So what would you recommend Paypal, or Moneybookers?
#820 [11:02] <Thrae> I recommend Paypal
#821 [11:02] <Treykor> Is that how you bought your minecraft?
#822 [11:02] <Thrae> Yes
#823 [11:03] <Treykor> Alright, Thx You've helped out alot
#824 [11:03] <Thrae> If you have a friend who can help you, they can always use their own account and buy you a gift code
#825 [11:03] <alonl> heres my dxdiag output
#826 [11:03] <alonl> http://pastebin.com/7pTrAmrv
#827 [11:03] <Bev> Treykor: http://pastebin.com/ySvP1xCD
#828 [11:04] <Treykor> Bev, What about it?
#829 [11:04] <Thrae> Bev: Man, your 32-bit Windows has 4GB of RAM but can't use it =/ That sucks...lemme check for video card drivers
#830 [11:04] <Bev> Well SOME one wanted me to do that
#831 [11:04] <Bev> Thrae: probably because I'm dual-booting
#832 [11:05] <Thrae> It's because it's 32-bit Windows 7 instead of 64-bit
#833 [11:05] <Bev> It's all I got :c
#834 [11:05] <Bev> Look who do I have to talk to to get a refund
#835 [11:06] <alonl> 32bit can take advantage of up to 4gb, so he's alright on that front
#836 [11:06] <Thrae> You can get a free copy of 64-bit Windows 7 from Microsoft if you have a valid Windows 7 license
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#838 [11:06] <Thrae> alonl: No, it depends on the hardware if it can use up to 4GB
#839 [11:06] <Bev> Which I don't.
#840 [11:06] <Bev> >broke
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#843 [11:07] <Thrae> Bev: Do you have any trouble installing this driver -- http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-32.aspx (Catalyst Software Suite)
#844 [11:07] <Bev> I literally just did that before I cam ein here.
#845 [11:07] <kippopot> hey
#846 [11:07] <Thrae> Bev: The driver date on your computer is 2010, the version number is old, where the latest driver is 9/28/2011.
#847 [11:08] <guest-0-06647> Hello, so I dont mean to just jump in the convo but i have a quetions with purchasing minecraft while outside the United States if anyone can help
#848 [11:08] <Bev> No. I JUST installed that update.
#849 [11:08] <Bev> I even restarted.
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#851 [11:08] <Flobby18> Can someone help me?
#852 [11:08] <Thrae> Bev: It didn't take. This sometimes happens with installing ATI drivers, their installer can lie about their update (like it'll update everything BUT the video card driver).
#853 [11:09] <Thrae> guest-0-06647: Mojang isn't run in the United States
#854 [11:09] <Bev> So what the hell do I do about it? But I doubt even if I did this stupid thing still won't work.
#855 [11:09] <Flobby18> I tried to download minecraft but once I logged in it loaded a black screen.
#856 [11:09] <Bev> Look I just want a refund. Absolutely nothing has worked and I'm really really mad.
#857 [11:09] <Flobby18> Can someone help me please?
#858 [11:10] <Bev> I can't find the company's email on the site anywhere.
#859 [11:10] <Thrae> Bev: Mojang normally does not give out refunds. We're just volunteer support here. You can go to http://www.minecraft.net/support and submit your grievances directly if you do not wish to troubleshoot. Select Payment, then Refund.
#860 [11:10] <alonl> I'd have to go with Bev here as well. I really want to play the game, but I really don't like to play 15euros for something that doesnt work.
#861 [11:10] <guest-0-06647> Ok, well I am a U.S. Sodier stationed in Germany and cant seem to purchase the game from here. I have had the same issue with other games and the game devlopers had to do something to alow me to purchase while in Germany
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#863 [11:11] <guest-0-06647> anything that can be done?
#864 [11:11] <alonl> you can feel free to take a look at my dxdiag too Thrae, http://pastebin.com/7pTrAmrv
#865 [11:11] <Bev> So I just wasted my money forever. Great.
#866 [11:11] <alonl> but I don't think theres anything to be done that I haven't tried already.
#867 [11:11] <Thrae> guest-0-06647: Mojang uses Paypal and Moneybrookers, so they have no control over authorization of payment.
#868 [11:11] <Bev> I'm done getting "help". All I get is the same solutions and none of them work.
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#870 [11:12] <Thrae> Bev: Have you tried using a batch file to launch Minecraft?
#871 [11:12] <guest-0-06647> so basically I cant do direct payment and have to go through paypal...just so I understand?
#872 [11:12] <Bev> I was offered an alternative client and I have the same exact problem.
#873 [11:12] <Thrae> guest-0-06647: Paypal or Moneybrookers, correct
#874 [11:12] <Bev> I can log into the client, then it closes itself.
#875 [11:12] <guest-0-06647> thank you for your help i will try that instead
#876 [11:12] <Bev> Every single time.
#877 [11:13] <Thrae> Bev: There is no official alternative client. OK, if you want, try downloading http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/experimental/LaunchMinecraftmx800.bat and place it in the same directory as Minecraft.exe. If it's on your desktop, place it there. Then run the batch file.
#878 [11:13] <Thrae> alonl: Feel free to try the same fix
#879 [11:14] <kippopot> hey so i bought mc ages ago then for complicated reasons deleted the .minecraft now i cant redown load it
#880 [11:14] <alonl> Alright. see you after the next crash probably
#881 [11:14] <kippopot> it wont log me in
#882 [11:14] <Thrae> kippopot: Re-download the launcher from www.minecraft.net/download
#883 [11:14] <kippopot> done that
#884 [11:14] <kippopot> three times
#885 [11:15] <alonl> Also, before I do that
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#887 [11:15] <Bev> The batch file didn't work.
#888 [11:15] <alonl> Whenever I login to a server
#889 [11:15] <Bev> I log into the client, then it closes.
#890 [11:15] <alonl> all I get is black and some items
#891 [11:15] <alonl> and I'm falling constantly
#892 [11:15] <alonl> whichever server I try
#893 [11:15] <Thrae> kippopot: What happens when you try to login? Have you tried doing "Force Update"?
#894 [11:15] <alonl> It happens for a few seconds, afterwards the computer freezes up and if I'm lucky I manage to get to the task manager and close java before it crashes entirely
#895 [11:16] <kippopot> when i log in it says not downloaded when i do force update same thing internet working and username and password correct
#896 [11:16] <Thrae> Bev: Download and install http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/download.html and double-check that it's not set to "GDI Renderer"
#897 [11:16] <alonl> gah
#898 [11:16] <alonl> It just froze up again
#899 [11:16] <alonl> java has crashed
#900 [11:16] <alonl> but I managed to close it before everything died
#901 [11:17] <Thrae> alonl: Does Windows say Java has crashed, or does Java itself give an error report?
#902 [11:17] <alonl> Windows says Java has crashed
#903 [11:17] <Thrae> kippopot: Does the Beta version work in the browser?
#904 [11:17] <kippopot> haevent tried that brb
#905 [11:17] <Thrae> alonl: OK, have you tried reinstalling Java 6 Update 27?
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#907 [11:17] <alonl> Yes. I've also downgraded to 6u22, hasn't worked.
#908 [11:18] <alonl> I could upgrade back to 27 but I've already been there
#909 [11:18] <Thrae> ??> alonl win/javara
#910 [11:18] <VoxelHead> alonl: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#911 [11:18] <VoxelHead> alonl: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#912 [11:18] <Bev> ..Okay, Thrae?
#913 [11:18] <Bev> I just installed that thing, and when it finished I opened it?
#914 [11:18] <Bev> I got an error.
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#916 [11:18] <alonl> Java is the scourge of good computing
#917 [11:18] <alonl> honestly
#918 [11:18] <alonl> why do Minecraft use it
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#920 [11:19] <Thrae> Bev: Ugh that's not good. Sounds like your video card drivers are screwed up...I doubt any OpenGL game will work until you get the right drivers on there.
#921 [11:19] <Bev> I can run emulators just fine and those use openGL.
#922 [11:20] <Thrae> I've never heard of GL View crashing before on a system where everything's fine. The program is very stable.
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#924 [11:20] <alonl> back
#925 [11:20] <alonl> I just ran JavaRa
#926 [11:20] <alonl> it didn't really do anything
#927 [11:20] <alonl> It hasn't removed Java
#928 [11:20] <kippopot> Yes thank you very much
#929 [11:20] <kippopot> WORKING!
#930 [11:21] <kippopot> yay
#931 [11:21] <Thrae> alonl: It removes old Java installations. Now go to Programs and Features and remove the rest, and install Java from http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
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#933 [11:21] <Thrae> Bev: Are you familiar with Safe Mode?
#934 [11:21] <kippopot> wait no
#935 [11:21] <kippopot> not fixed
#936 [11:22] <Thrae> alonl: Whoops, meant http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp , although that other link will take you to the right place anyway
#937 [11:22] <kippopot> it's broken again
#938 [11:22] <Thrae> kippopot: So the browser version works or doesn't work?
#939 [11:23] <kippopot> browser one good
#940 [11:23] <alonl> Alright, I'm installing jre-6u27-windows-x64
#941 [11:23] <alonl> Its done.
#942 [11:23] <alonl> Anything else before I try running again?
#943 [11:23] <Thrae> kippopot: So browser version can connect, but the regular launcher cannot? Does your Windows username have a ! in it? Did you ever change your Windows username?
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#945 [11:23] <Thrae> alonl: Nah, just try it.
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#947 [11:24] <alonl> Ok. BTW, I'm connecting to the reddit servers, but as I said, whenever I connect I just get my character falling through black void instead of outside or w/e
#948 [11:24] <Thrae> alonl , Bev : Also, does your Windows username have a ! in it? Even if you changed it?
#949 [11:24] <alonl> Nope
#950 [11:25] <kippopot> never changed user name but now i cant connect to minecraft. net but playing it offline open save freezes says saving chunks
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#952 [11:25] <Thrae> ??> kippopot win/reinst/bat
#953 [11:25] <VoxelHead> kippopot: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#954 [11:25] <VoxelHead> kippopot: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#955 [11:25] <kippopot> what does that do
#956 [11:25] <alonl> Well
#957 [11:25] <alonl> it hasnt crashed yet
#958 [11:25] <alonl> but it is just me falling through space
#959 [11:25] <Thrae> kippopot: Removes the local files installed by the launcher.
#960 [11:25] <alonl> how can I respawn?
#961 [11:25] <Bev> Thrae no it doesn't
#962 [11:26] <Thrae> alonl: /kill
#963 [11:26] <Bev> I'm just nearly resigned at this point
#964 [11:26] <alonl> what opens the chat? enter?
#965 [11:26] <Bev> I wasted money on something that won't work ever
#966 [11:26] <Bev> And I'll never get it back
#967 [11:26] <alonl> gah I just got a readtimeout from java in the game
#968 [11:26] <kippopot> so shall i open that
#969 [11:26] <Thrae> Bev: Well, you're also welcome to have me use TeamViewer to try and fix it. It's a remote desktop control program.
#970 [11:27] <Thrae> alonl: Hmm, try connecting to mc.matts-hosting.com
#971 [11:28] <Bev> I have teamviewer.
#972 [11:28] <Thrae> Bev: Except one of the things I believe needs to be done involves going into Safe Mode and TeamViewer probably won't work there.
#973 [11:28] <kippopot> hey so now it says not downloaded
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#975 [11:29] <Bev> Just forget it
#976 [11:29] <Alonl2> Ha, I see I haven't timed out yet
#977 [11:29] <Alonl2> My computer crashed again
#978 [11:29] <Bev> I'll wait until I get a new computer next year and maybe it'll work them
#979 [11:29] <Alonl2> Logged in here on my iPad
#980 [11:29] <Thrae> Bev: Yeah, it's a fact your video card drivers were not updated, so something's going on with your Windows install.
#981 [11:30] <Thrae> I doubt it's an iMac-specific problem
#982 [11:30] <Alonl2> This time it just froze while "loading terrain"
#983 [11:30] <Thrae> Alonl2: Hmm, was this on the reddit server or mc.matts-hosting.com ?
#984 [11:30] <Alonl2> My display went to showing nothing but a bluish-cyan screen and I had to reboot
#985 [11:30] <kippopot> hasn't worked
#986 [11:30] <Alonl2> Reedit. Should I try the other one?
#987 [11:31] <Bev> Well whatever
#988 [11:31] <Bev> My money wasted, my problem
#989 [11:31] <Thrae> Bev: GL View is a developer's tool for OpenGL, one of the two major gaming graphics libraries (the other one being DirectX), and failing almost always indicates a driver problem.
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#991 [11:31] <Thrae> Alonl2: Yeah, please
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#993 [11:31] <Bev> Then I guess I'll have to live with it. Cause there's no way to fix this at all.
#994 [11:32] <kippopot> hey thrae
#995 [11:32] <Thrae> kippopot: What's your system date & time?
#996 [11:32] <Alonl2> Froze on loading terrain again
#997 [11:32] <kippopot> 30 september 16:32
#998 [11:32] <Alonl2> Gpu has cut out
#999 [11:32] <Alonl2> Rebooting again
#1000 [11:32] <Thrae> kippopot: Is 16:32 correct for your time zone?
#1001 [11:32] <kippopot> yup
#1002 [11:33] <Thrae> Alonl2: Sounds like your GPU is seriously messed up. Try the latest drivers from www.ati.com -- I know there's an update because they were released just 2 days ago, and your driver date is a few months older.
#1003 [11:33] <Thrae> Alonl2: Also, do you have CrossFire disabled?
#1004 [11:33] <guacamole> the screen goes black when the game has finished loading in singul player then a white box with writing flashes wat can i do
#1005 [11:33] <Thrae> kippopot: What's your Minecraft username?
#1006 [11:33] <Alonl2> I don't have a crossfire motherboard
#1007 [11:34] <kippopot> Kippopot
#1008 [11:34] <guacamole> supersonicsnipz
#1009 [11:34] <kippopot> exactly that
#1010 [11:34] <Thrae> Alonl2: Hmm, the DxDiag you gave me showed 2 ATI Radeon HD 4670 cards
#1011 [11:34] <guacamole> yep
#1012 [11:34] <Thrae> !paid kippopot
#1013 [11:34] <kippopot> yeah
#1014 [11:34] <TheNoodle> !paid aubot
#1015 [11:34] <TheNoodle> ^_^
#1016 [11:34] <Thrae> guacamole: Any texture packs or mods installed?
#1017 [11:34] <guacamole> no
#1018 [11:34] <Thrae> Alonl2: Do you have two graphics cards?
#1019 [11:35] <guacamole> i dont no
#1020 [11:35] <Thrae> Alonl2: Sorry, 4770, not 4670
#1021 [11:35] <guacamole> wat r they
#1022 [11:35] <Thrae> guacamole: I'm only talking to you when I say guacamole:
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#1024 [11:35] <Alonl2> No, maybe you were seeing two outputs
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#1026 [11:35] <Alonl2> My tv is hooked up to the vc swell
#1027 [11:35] <Alonl2> As well
#1028 [11:36] <xales> Kealper: you around?
#1029 [11:36] <Thrae> Alonl2: Have you tried it with only one display hooked up?
#1030 [11:36] <guacamole> wat can i do wats a graphic card
#1031 [11:36] <Alonl2> No, and I'm not going to. I have to into
#1032 [11:36] <Thrae> guacamole: Are you using Windows?
#1033 [11:36] <Alonl2> I have no intention of limiting my computer to play this
#1034 [11:36] <guacamole> yes
#1035 [11:37] <Alonl2> I'm going to request a refund
#1036 [11:37] <Alonl2> Theres no reason to charge 15€ for a game in this sort of beta stage
#1037 [11:37] <kippopot> can i have some more advice
#1038 [11:37] <Alonl2> If I had any clue that it was this hard to run I wouldn't have paid
#1039 [11:38] <guacamole> i am with windows
#1040 [11:38] <guacamole> i am usin windows
#1041 [11:38] <Thrae> Alonl2: OK, I think I know what the problem is (your multiple displays), and there may be a fix, but you're welcome to request a refund from Mojang -- http://www.minecraft.net/support . Just note Mojang does not give out refunds as their policy.
#1042 [11:38] <Thrae> ??> guacamole win/dxdiag
#1043 [11:38] <VoxelHead> guacamole: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1044 [11:38] <VoxelHead> guacamole: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1045 [11:39] <guacamole> i dont speak computer can u slao down wat do i do
#1046 [11:39] <Thrae> kippopot: Do you have any anti-virus, firewall, internet security, internet protection software?
#1047 [11:39] <Thrae> ??> guacamole win/key
#1048 [11:39] <VoxelHead> guacamole: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1049 [11:39] <kippopot> avg free
#1050 [11:39] <Alonl2> This isn't a matter of policy. Besides the client I haven't received anything from Mojang, and I see no reason I shouldnt be issued a refund
#1051 [11:39] <guacamole> wats that
#1052 [11:39] <Alonl2> I am willing to hear any solution you have to offer
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#1054 [11:40] <schnozzle> hello?
#1055 [11:40] <Thrae> Alonl2: Well, to see if the solution will work, the first step would be to unplug that TV and see if that's the problem.
#1056 [11:40] <kippopot> probably some sort of terrible microsoft firewall
#1057 [11:40] <Thrae> guacamole: You need to hold down the Windows Key on your keyboard and press the R key to bring up the Run dialog box.
#1058 [11:41] <guacamole> ok ill try it
#1059 [11:41] <Thrae> kippopot: Yeah, AVG Free has known compatibility issues with Java at certain settings, so try disabling its Resident protection.
#1060 [11:41] <Alonl2> It hasnt
#1061 [11:41] <Thrae> schnozzle: Yes?
#1062 [11:41] <schnozzle> please can some one help me?
#1063 [11:41] <Alonl2> Still crashed
#1064 [11:41] <kippopot> well it's been working for 3 or 4 months
#1065 [11:41] <guacamole> ok did tat then wat
#1066 [11:42] <Thrae> Alonl2: And you get the same result from the browser version as the launcher?
#1067 [11:42] <Thrae> guacamole: type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1068 [11:42] <Alonl2> I checked once, and yes, it crashed in the same manner
#1069 [11:42] <guacamole> ok ill try it
#1070 [11:43] <schnozzle> hello thrae ive bought minecraft and a couple minuets after playing i get this window Java(TM) Platform SE Binary Has Stopped Working and my java is up to data same with my video drivers
#1071 [11:43] <Thrae> Alonl2: Hmm, then I'm not exactly sure. It sounds like there's some corruption in the files, either some security software blocked it from downloading correctly (certain AV can do this along with firewalls, etc.) and/or Java wasn't installed properly.
#1072 [11:44] <Thrae> Alonl2: Do you have any trouble in Single Player?
#1073 [11:44] <Alonl2> I have no AV installed, and this is a fresh setup of windows I did only three days ago
#1074 [11:44] <Alonl2> I'll check
#1075 [11:45] <Thrae> schnozzle: http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp , tell me what your Java version is and what your OS is
#1076 [11:45] <Alonl2> Nope it seems to work in sp
#1077 [11:45] <Alonl2> Waiter
#1078 [11:45] <Alonl2> Wait
#1079 [11:45] <schnozzle> ok one second...
#1080 [11:45] <Alonl2> No, my display driver has crashed
#1081 [11:45] <Thrae> Alonl2: BSOD?
#1082 [11:45] <kippopot> i'm still here
#1083 [11:46] <Thrae> kippopot: And I asked you to disable AVG Free
#1084 [11:46] <Alonl2> Nope, innocent crash, windows alerted me and contented
#1085 [11:46] <Alonl2> Continued
#1086 [11:46] <kippopot> how
#1087 [11:46] <kippopot> just turn it off
#1088 [11:47] <Alonl2> What next?
#1089 [11:47] <Thrae> Alonl2: Well, no program should be able to crash your video card drivers, period. Crash your system yes, but not the video card drivers. So there's definitely something up with the system.
#1090 [11:47] <guacamole> ok i saved that to my desktop
#1091 [11:47] <guacamole> now wat
#1092 [11:48] <Thrae> Alonl2: OK, go into the Main Menu, then options, then turn all the settings down to their lowest -- especially Performance
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#1094 [11:48] <Alonl2> I don't have any other problems on this machine
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#1096 [11:48] <Thrae> Alonl2: Minecraft can cause severe stress on a GPU with certain settings. Still the video card drivers shouldn't crash, nor should the system crash, because of this.
#1097 [11:48] <guacamole> i saved it to desk top wat now
#1098 [11:48] <Thrae> guacamole: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1099 [11:49] <Alonl2> What should i set performance to?
#1100 [11:49] <Alonl2> Max fps?
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#1102 [11:49] <kippopot> should i disabele avg
#1103 [11:50] <guacamole> bow to i paste them to http://pastebin is it in the website
#1104 [11:50] <guacamole> sorry how
#1105 [11:50] <Thrae> Alonl2: Set Graphics to "Fast", set Render Distance to "Near", set Performance to "Power Saver", set Advanced OpenGL to "Off", set 3D Anaglyph to "Off"
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#1107 [11:50] <kippopot> dont you mean tiny? threa
#1108 [11:50] <Thrae> guacamole: Edit->Select All, Edit->Copy, then select the big white box in pastebin.com and hit CTRL+V on your keyboard to paste (or right-click and go to paste)
#1109 [11:50] <Thrae> kippopot: http://free.avg.com/ww-en/faq.num-2429
#1110 [11:50] <Alonl2> Done, still crashes
#1111 [11:51] <Alonl2> This time my gpu has cut out completely again
#1112 [11:51] <guacamole> ok
#1113 [11:52] <Thrae> Alonl2: Can you run this program -- http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/ , doing the GPU stress test
#1114 [11:52] <kippopot> thrae if i disable it and it works then when i enable it again will it stop working
#1115 [11:52] <kippopot> ?
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#1117 [11:53] <Thrae> Alonl2: I work with video chipsets doing QA and I've had issues with bad cards that will still work on certain games even though there's a problem with the hardware (especially bad caps), so a stress test at this point is a good idea
#1118 [11:53] <Thrae> kippopot: The point of troubleshooting is to find out.
#1119 [11:53] <Sinistrahd> my geforce 7600GSs worked for about 5 months after the caps started to blow
#1120 [11:53] <Alonl2> Even if something is wrong with the gpu, which I don't think there is
#1121 [11:54] <schnozzle> hello agin Thrae my java version is: Version 6 Update 27
#1122 [11:54] <Alonl2> It runs other games perfectly fine
#1123 [11:54] <Sinistrahd> I didn't realize they'd gone until I smelled an acrid odor after one of the frequent blue screens I was getting
#1124 [11:54] <kippopot> thrae so how do i enable it again?
#1125 [11:54] <Alonl2> And I have no intention of purchasing a new gpu for Minecraft
#1126 [11:54] <Alonl2> That makes no sense.
#1127 [11:55] <Thrae> Alonl2: I'm not saying go purchase a new GPU, I want you to run that stress test and see if the driver crashes again or something worse happens.
#1128 [11:55] <Thrae> Alonl2: It could just be a simple software issue (drivers) too.
#1129 [11:55] <Thrae> kippopot: Do the same procedure, but tick the box instead of unticking it
#1130 [11:55] <Alonl2> This is a 3 day old setup on this machine
#1131 [11:56] <kippopot> why would disabling my antivirs help if it hasent been aproblem for 4 months of playing fine
#1132 [11:56] <Alonl2> I don't think that there's any software problem that has been fixed in the last 3 days that could explain this
#1133 [11:56] <Thrae> Alonl2: Drivers not installing properly has nothing to do with Windows. Also, wherever you got your drivers for your ATI card, they are out of date by several months -- you're at least 2 versions old.
#1134 [11:56] <Thrae> *nothing to do with the age of the Windows installation
#1135 [11:57] <Alonl2> And let's assume that the stress test reveals a problem that prevents me from playing mine craft, what am I expected to do?
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#1137 [11:57] <Alonl2> Every other game runs fine
#1138 [11:57] <Thrae> kippopot: AV engines can self-update and change behavior slightly
#1139 [11:57] <nimativ> hi,
#1140 [11:57] <Alonl2> I'm not going to replace a supposedly faulty card for just one game that fails to run on it
#1141 [11:58] <Alonl2> If all the other, newer, more gpu intensive games manage, why cant mine craft?
#1142 [11:58] <kippopot> it only broke after i used mcpatcher after it was out of date
#1143 [11:58] <Thrae> Alonl2: Well, you're free to try the Driver Sweeper method to get the latest ATI drivers cleanly on your system.
#1144 [11:58] <kippopot> and then all stopped working
#1145 [11:58] <guacamole> i submited the thing but how do i get the lin
#1146 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> Does every other game you run, work off of java. Does every other game you run, use OpenGL to render graphics Alonl2?
#1147 [11:58] <Thrae> guacamole: Your address bar
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#1149 [11:58] <Sinistrahd> Alonl2: Is every other game you own still in beta testing? :P
#1150 [11:59] <Alonl2> I don't know, but that isn't material to me as a costumer.
#1151 [11:59] <guacamole> so the link is the adres bar?
#1152 [11:59] <nimativ> i bought minecraft a few houres ago, but i can't log in. where can i find some help?
#1153 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Just because "every other game" you run, works, doesn't mean every game will
#1154 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> nimativ: username please?
#1155 [11:59] <Sinistrahd> hey can you make me a master chief costume?
#1156 [11:59] <Alonl2> I paid 15€ for a game whose developers are obviously confident enough to charge money for it
#1157 [11:59] <nimativ> nimativ91
#1158 [11:59] <Alonl2> Een the
#1159 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> !paid nimativ91
#1160 [11:59] <Alonl2> Even though it doesn't work properly on all systems.
#1161 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> nimativ: Are you trying to log in from the standalone launcher or from the website?
#1162 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Alonl2 - No, you paid 15 euros for the priviledge of playing a game early, before its official release.
#1163 [12:00] <Sinistrahd> Alonl2 that's why they warn that it is in beta
#1164 [12:00] <Alonl2> And I'm not playing it, am I?
#1165 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> The terms of service even clearly stated it
#1166 [12:00] <Alonl2> I was NOT warned
#1167 [12:00] <Alonl2> About anything.
#1168 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Alonl2 - Yes, you were.
#1169 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> Alonl2: that is your problem of not reading carefully ;)
#1170 [12:00] <Alonl2> There was no disclaimer stating that it might not work on regular hardware
#1171 [12:01] <guacamole> wait im confused i copy the thing in the top white bar of the screen wen im on that page yes or no
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#1173 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> When you bought minecraft, there was a checkbox for "I agree to these terms"
#1174 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/terms
#1175 [12:01] <Alonl2> And besides, when's the official release due? 2 months? Or am I mistaken?
#1176 [12:01] <guacamole> ?
#1177 [12:01] <guacamole> ?
#1178 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> ??> nimativ dont/pm
#1179 [12:01] <VoxelHead> nimativ: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1180 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> guacamole: Please don't spam
#1181 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> Alonl2 - Yes. In november
#1182 [12:01] <guacamole> ?
#1183 [12:02] <guacamole> ok
#1184 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> nimativ: Can I ask again, did you try the website or the standalone launcher?
#1185 [12:02] <schnozzle> thrae my current java version is Version 6 Update 27
#1186 [12:02] <Sinistrahd> Also Alon12, keep in mind we are not working for nor officially linked with mojang in any way, we're volunteers helping people with the game
#1187 [12:02] <nimativ> website works, but the sandalone lunche doesn't work
#1188 [12:02] <shmoo> игруху купил, а она так и не появилась у меня
#1189 [12:02] <shmoo> ?
#1190 [12:02] <guacamole> were do i past the url
#1191 [12:03] <Sinistrahd> shmoo: english, not cyrillic
#1192 [12:03] <Alonl2> Okay. And in two months, will Mojang be able to guarantee that the game will work on my syste?
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#1194 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> nimativ: Do you have any kind of antivirus on?
#1195 [12:03] <Thrae> Alonl2: Your problem isn't Minecraft-specific. Minecraft can't be causing your video card drivers to crash. It's just a coincidence that Minecraft works in such a way (probably from its use of OpenGL 1.3) that your video card drivers aren't able to handle for some very odd reason.
#1196 [12:03] <kippopot> can you give me a different solution than uninstalling avg please?
#1197 [12:03] <nimativ> yes
#1198 [12:03] <Sinistrahd> Alonl2 have you even tried to update those old drivers yet instead of complaining about what-ifs?
#1199 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> nimativ: try to turn all antivirus and firewalls off and try again
#1200 [12:03] <Thrae> Alonl2: Video card driver crashes are pretty rare for people running Minecraft.
#1201 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> kippopot: Who is your helper?
#1202 [12:04] <Alonl2> Btw, the terms do not mention anything about the games hardware requirements
#1203 [12:04] <nimativ> but a friend of mine locked in on my pc with his account and it works
#1204 [12:04] <Alonl2> And in any case
#1205 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> No, but the terms of service do mention: When you purchase Minecraft you do so as is, be it in the early stages of development or already fully released. Subsequent updates are only an added bonus and not a guarantee, as icing on a cake.
#1206 [12:04] <kippopot> thrae
#1207 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> "as is"
#1208 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> Thrae?
#1209 [12:04] <Thrae> kippopot: Does it work with AVG Free disabled?
#1210 [12:04] <Alonl2> Alright, I'm not gonna keep arguing
#1211 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> nimativ: hmm, did you type in the correct username/password then?
#1212 [12:04] <guacamole> Thrae:i submited the writing now wat
#1213 [12:05] <Alonl2> I'll mail Mojang and hope for the best
#1214 [12:05] <Thrae> guacamole: In this channel, you paste the URL in this channel
#1215 [12:05] <guacamole> k
#1216 [12:05] <kippopot> my dad's get's really agitated bout that stuff but dont suddenly think i'm a tiny kid who cant do aything i've made my own texture pack
#1217 [12:05] <guacamole> were do i past this canel
#1218 [12:05] <Alonl2> It'll be nothing short of theft not to issue a refund for a game I never got to play and never received any service or product for.
#1219 [12:05] <kippopot> so havent tired
#1220 [12:06] <Alonl2> Goodbye.
#1221 [12:06] * GreyVulpine waves
#1221 [12:06] <schnozzle> Thrae?
#1222 [12:06] <Thrae> kippopot: You haven't tried disabling AVG Free?
#1223 [12:06] <kippopot> no
#1224 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> did anyone told him this is not official mojang staff helping?
#1225 [12:06] <nimativ> i changed the pw and i locked in with the new pw and it doesn't work, too
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#1227 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> nimativ: Can you try logging into the website with your new password?
#1228 [12:06] <Schorsch666> Hello!
#1229 [12:07] <guacamole> wait i get it now is this right
#1230 [12:07] <nimativ> not with the new password, but with the old one
#1231 [12:07] <Schorsch666> I've got a problem, can anyone help me?
#1232 [12:07] <guacamole> http://pastebin.com/bpXx5uGk
#1233 [12:07] <Thrae> kippopot: The point of troubleshooting is to try things and see if they work. There's no 100% guaranteed fix for everybody -- in 99.5% of the cases, it's something on the person's computer. If you don't do anything else while it's disabled and re-enable it afterwards you'll be fine.
#1234 [12:07] <schnozzle> hello Schorsch666
#1235 [12:07] <Schorsch666> hello schnozzle
#1236 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> nimativ: then try logging in Minecraft with your old password
#1237 [12:08] <Thrae> schnozzle: OK, go ahead and go to Programs and Features and remove all versions of Java found there. Then install Java from the link WugBot will give....
#1238 [12:08] <nimativ> i tryed it a few times
#1239 [12:08] <Thrae> :h
#1240 [12:08] <Thrae> :j
#1241 [12:08] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#1242 [12:08] <kippopot> k will annoy my dad
#1243 [12:08] <Thrae> kippopot: If it does work, then we can move on from there and try and figure out how to get it working with it enabled.
#1244 [12:08] <schnozzle> ok thank you thrae
#1245 [12:08] <guacamole> Thrae: heres the url now wat http://pastebin.com/bpXx5uGk
#1246 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> nimativ: Wait, are you saying that both the old password and the new password doesn't work?
#1247 [12:09] <nimativ> yes
#1248 [12:09] <Sinistrahd> ouch guacamole - looks like you need to more than double your ram
#1249 [12:09] <Schorsch666> Since a few days the launcher tells me that he can't connect to minecraft.net. I tried like 5000 things, but nothing worked. What can I do, who can I talk to..?
#1250 [12:09] <guacamole> wats taht mean
#1251 [12:09] <Thrae> guacamole: I think there's a good chance Minecraft isn't going to work on your computer with your lack of RAM and ancient integrated video chipset. Drivers for that chipset stopped being made in 2005.
#1252 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> nimativ: you might want to try the Forget Password function then...
#1253 [12:09] <Sinistrahd> and that super old 64 MB via s3g integrated graphics also may not cut it
#1254 [12:10] <Thrae> guacamole: I haven't been able to get Minecraft, or most OpenGL games, working on that old video chipset.
#1255 [12:10] <nimativ> where can i find the 'forget password function'?
#1256 [12:10] <guacamole> so theres no way minecraft will work at all on this computr
#1257 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> nimativ: hang on
#1258 [12:11] <Sinistrahd> guacamole probably not. Generally you need at least a gig of RAM
#1259 [12:11] <xales> guacamole: That is correct
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#1261 [12:11] <Thrae> nimativ: When you go to www.minecraft.net and click on Log in, under the Password white box there's a link, "Forgot password?" it goes to http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1262 [12:11] <guacamole> is it possiblle to get more ram
#1263 [12:11] <Sinistrahd> guacamole: as well as a video chipset that supports opengl 1.3
#1264 [12:11] <schnozzle> ok removed my java on programs and features now going to the link WugBot gave
#1265 [12:11] <xales> guacamole: In your case, no. You would need a new computer.
#1266 [12:11] <Thrae> guacamole: I wouldn't say there's absolutely no way, but most likely no
#1267 [12:12] <Sinistrahd> depends on what type your system uses, but older ram actually has higher prices as it gets more rare
#1268 [12:12] <guacamole> ok how do i get a video chipset and a gig of ram
#1269 [12:12] <Thrae> guacamole: Unless you know where you get computer parts (hardware) cheap and install it then you're looking at a newer computer, preferably with at least 2GB of RAM and an ATI or Nvidia graphics chipset
#1270 [12:12] <Sinistrahd> basically get a new pc
#1271 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> ^
#1272 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> ^
#1273 [12:12] <Thrae> guacamole: Even a used computer back from 2005 would work, it just needs to have those specs
#1274 [12:13] <Sinistrahd> Thrae: might wanna toss him a recommended processor speed too
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#1276 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> ?? requirements/lessrude
#1277 [12:13] <VoxelHead> requirements/lessrude: 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#1278 [12:13] <VoxelHead> requirements/lessrude: A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
#1279 [12:14] <guacamole> if i got an new laptop ( an average laptop) with windows 7 would it come with that stuff
#1280 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> ?? requirements/evenlessrude
#1281 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> oh, that doesn't exisrt
#1282 [12:14] <Thrae> Those requirements leave out the Nvidia or ATI graphics chipset -- don't want people getting Intel
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#1284 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> Thrae: intel sucks
#1285 [12:15] <Thrae> I would say that's the MOST important to getting a compatible system,as the RAM is one of the easier things to upgrade
#1286 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> plug and go
#1287 [12:15] <Sinistrahd> I'll bet I'm not gonna be able to host smp and play anymore now that 1.8 is out :| Haven't played much since 1.7.4 was minty fresh
#1288 [12:16] <Thrae> guacamole: if the laptop has an ATI or Nvidia graphics chipset then it should work
#1289 [12:16] <Sinistrahd> but I have 2 gigs ram and can't afford the crazy inflation on pc2 5300
#1290 [12:16] <nimativ> is the login for the website the same like the launcher?
#1291 [12:16] <Thrae> Sinistrahd: You mean 1.7.3, and the requirements for 1.8 haven't gone up very much, especially not the RAM
#1292 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> nimativ: Yes
#1293 [12:17] <guacamole> d how do u tell it has atl or nvidia graphic chipset
#1294 [12:17] <nimativ> mhhh...
#1295 [12:17] <Thrae> Sinistrahd: What changed most about 1.8 is the lighting engine, which uses OpenGL 1.3, technology from 1999, and they even demoted that down to OpenGL 1.2 in 1.9-pre to fix ancient machines.
#1296 [12:17] <nimativ> i can't change my pw, but i don't know why
#1297 [12:17] <Thrae> guacamole: It'll say so on the system specs
#1298 [12:17] <Thrae> Sinistrahd: No real increased RAM requirements, AFAIK
#1299 [12:18] <Schorsch666> Since a few days the launcher tells me that it can't connect to minecraft.net. I tried like 5000 things, but nothing worked. What can I do, who can I talk to..?
#1300 [12:18] <Thrae> Schorsch666: Tried re-downloading the launcher from minecraft.net ?
#1301 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> the newest OpenGL is like 4.x already...
#1302 [12:18] <Schorsch666> Yes!
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#1304 [12:18] <Thrae> Schorsch666: Browser version work?
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#1306 [12:19] <Schorsch666> Yes, perfectly.
#1307 [12:19] <eurobertics> hello
#1308 [12:19] * GreyVulpine predicts AV/firewall
#1308 [12:19] <Thrae> Schorsch666: Using anything like AVG Free? Internet Protection, Security, Firewall, etc.
#1309 [12:19] <Sinistrahd> since minecraft is so retro-y and jave-based... has anyone here ever played Dragon Court? (Just a quick shot in the dark, PM me if you have and have a character on it)
#1310 [12:19] <Sinistrahd> java*
#1311 [12:20] <eurobertics> i'm new to minecraft and have a sysconfig question
#1312 [12:20] <guacamole> ok it was sort of a waste of money this minecraft dealy. ill never have anough for another laptop/computer and ill never be able to find those parts
#1313 [12:20] <Schorsch666> I disabled my firewall and my antivirus program.
#1314 [12:20] <Thrae> nimativ: Might take more than a few minutes for the email to arrive. Or are you getting an error from the website?
#1315 [12:20] <Thrae> Schorsch666: What's your AV?
#1316 [12:20] <Schorsch666> Avira AntiVir Personal
#1317 [12:21] <Thrae> guacamole: Sorry, but your current computer is just too old for modern gaming
#1318 [12:21] <Sinistrahd> guacamole: just a shot in the dark, but try finding your local freecycle group and posting there requesting an old PC
#1319 [12:21] <Thrae> Schorsch666: Hmm OK, I use that too, so that's not it.
#1320 [12:21] <Sinistrahd> guacamole: you might get lucky and someone will have one gathering dust
#1321 [12:21] <Schorsch666> No... :(
#1322 [12:21] <nimativ> i get an email but after i change the pw there was no massage that the pw was changed. I only was back on the mainpage ...
#1323 [12:22] <Thrae> guacamole: I know computer shops where you can buy a system that can run Minecraft (and other games that don't need a lot of GPU power) for like $100, so it's not like it's expensive, you just need to get one with a decent GPU instead of the obscure GPU you have that's no longer being produced since 2005
#1324 [12:23] <Thrae> nimativ: Does the new password work?
#1325 [12:23] <nimativ> than i try it again i put my user name in the forgot pw box and after this now there is no massage that they have sent me an pw recovery email. ^^ only the mainpage open then
#1326 [12:23] <nimativ> no
#1327 [12:23] <Thrae> Schorsch666: Does your Windows username have a ! in it? Is the system date & time correct?
#1328 [12:24] <eurobertics> i want to buy minecraft, since i running a linux box and the game is written in java, does the game run on linux? anyone know something about it?
#1329 [12:24] <Thrae> nimativ: Double-check with Forgot Username
#1330 [12:24] <Schorsch666> No, my Windows username is Schorsch and I just updated my system date & time a few minutes ago.
#1331 [12:24] <Sinistrahd> hmm, a MC capable PC = mowing 3 or 4 neighbors' lawns, eh thrae?
#1332 [12:24] <Thrae> eurobertics: Minecraft is coded to be cross-platform. Java is inherently cross-platform (it has no ties to a specific operating system).
#1333 [12:25] <eurobertics> Thrae: many thanks then i will now buy the game
#1334 [12:25] <nimativ> thrae what do you mean with this?
#1335 [12:25] <Thrae> eurobertics: Just note the requirements for running smoothly -- 1.5GB free RAM, OpenGL 1.3 support on your video card (may require proprietary/restricted drivers)
#1336 [12:26] <Thrae> Schorsch666: You had to manually update the system time? Was it wrong?
#1337 [12:26] <eurobertics> Thrae: thanks, i think this will be ok, i'm on an linux laptop dual core with nv9500 graphics adapter
#1338 [12:26] <Schorsch666> No, it wasn't, i just did it once again to be absolutely sure.
#1339 [12:27] <Thrae> eurobertics: Probably, but if you're not on the proprietary/restricted drivers then you may have to switch. No big deal, they're free from Nvidia, and easy to install on most distributions of Linux like Debian-based ones.
#1340 [12:27] <Sinistrahd> Thrae when the system time doesn't keep track with the real time well (say 2 minutes lag per day or so) is that an indicator of a failing CPU?
#1341 [12:27] <kippopot> Hey thrae it's me again kippopot i've got it to work anplay but it wont connect havent tried disabling avg yet
#1342 [12:27] <Thrae> Sinistrahd: No, it's an indication of a failing CMOS battery on the motherboard (small coin battery)
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#1344 [12:28] <mortisha> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 9/30/11 10:26
#1345 [12:28] <Sinistrahd> Thrae: oh, I haven't touched that thing since I got this PC in 2006
#1346 [12:28] <Thrae> mortisha: Paste that error to www.pastebin.com and give us the link
#1347 [12:28] <Thrae> Sinistrahd: Normally those batteries don't fail for like 8+ years
#1348 [12:28] <eurobertics> Thrae: yes, i'm running the proprietary drivers, ubuntu is very modern about this, once more many thanks for your help
#1349 [12:29] <Sinistrahd> Thrae: It's just a CR2032, right? My time has been off for a couple years now, I actually had to edit the registry setting for how often it updates from nist.gov
#1350 [12:29] <Schorsch666> Thrae, I'm leaving right now, i'll be back to get a proper solution from...somebody.
#1351 [12:29] <kippopot> hey thrae
#1352 [12:29] <Schorsch666> Thanks!
#1353 [12:29] <Thrae> Schorsch666: OK, I'll probably be here if you want to try more troubleshooting
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#1355 [12:30] <Thrae> kippopot: Yes, I'd still like you to try disabling AVG Free. If you're that worried put your system into Safe Mode with Networking and try Minecraft.
#1356 [12:30] <Thrae> kippopot: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm
#1357 [12:30] <kippopot> it plays but i cant connect which is different than before
#1358 [12:30] <eurobertics> thanks for helping, bye
#1359 [12:30] <nimativ> is there any support email adress or somethink else? I paid for the game and i want to play ist now :/
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#1361 [12:30] <Thrae> kippopot: That should eliminate most of the things that could be stopping it from connecting.
#1362 [12:31] <kippopot> why do i need to go into safe mode
#1363 [12:31] <nimativ> *it
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#1365 [12:32] <Sinistrahd> nimativ it might be better to register on the minecraft.net forums and post there rather than trying to email mojang
#1366 [12:32] <Thrae> nimativ: http://www.minecraft.net/support , maybe try the "I think my account was hacked" question
#1367 [12:33] <Thrae> nimativ: As there's something wrong with your account if you're not able to change your password (I don't think it was hacked, but there's nothing else applicable on that page)
#1368 [12:33] <Sinistrahd> oh he changed his password and had an error... yeah, go through what thrae gave you
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#1370 [12:33] <Thrae> nimativ: You can also try emailing support@mojang.com , but that email address is often pretty full
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#1372 [12:34] <Thrae> kippopot: For troubleshooting, to see if it's something on your system blocking Java.
#1373 [12:34] <Guest20864> is it possible to play minecraft on an ipod touch 4g
#1374 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> No
#1375 [12:35] <Guest20864> y
#1376 [12:35] <schnozzle> HelloThrae you recently told me to update my java and WugBot sent me a link to the newest java update and now Minecraft works perfectly thank you :D
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#1378 [12:35] <nimativ> okay thanks guys :) i try this ways and message back if they found the solution so than you can help if the problem is there again
#1379 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Guest20864 - No releases have been done for the iOS yet
#1380 [12:35] <kippopot> how would i do that also it wont save my username
#1381 [12:36] <Guest20864> ahhh it doesnt work on my computer either as i need more ram
#1382 [12:36] <Thrae> Guest20864: Ipod Touch 4G has even less RAM
#1383 [12:36] <Sinistrahd> Guest20864 - ram is easy to buy and install
#1384 [12:36] <Guest20864> does it work on phones
#1385 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Guest20864 - Only one at this moment.
#1386 [12:36] <Sinistrahd> Guest20864 there is a version for the sony xperia play
#1387 [12:37] <Thrae> There is currently no version of Minecraft Beta for phones. There is an experimental Alpha version I believe for PocketPC.
#1388 [12:37] <Sinistrahd> it isn't the same as the pc game though
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#1390 [12:37] <Thrae> Oh wait....Android, not PocketPC
#1391 [12:37] * Thrae was thinking of Terraria
#1391 [12:37] <Sinistrahd> they'll probably never be able to interconnect I would guess...
#1392 [12:37] <tyteen4a03> Thrae: Xperia play only
#1393 [12:37] <Thrae> Yeah
#1394 [12:38] <Guest20864> wait i got an android phone wat do i do
#1395 [12:38] <Sinistrahd> I need to update my terraria and see what all the new stuff they've done in it adds to the game
#1396 [12:38] <kippopot> thrae how come it wont save my name
#1397 [12:38] <Thrae> kippopot: Follow the instructions I linked you.
#1398 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> There isn't a release for the general Android populace yet
#1399 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Only the xperia play
#1400 [12:38] <Cryp71c> Jeb tweeted that THurs was supposed to give a general android release.
#1401 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, but a bug prevented the release
#1402 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> Last I heard, they were still trying to fix it, but were unsuccessful
#1403 [12:39] <Sinistrahd> you'll need a really high end android phone though, I'm sure my droid won't cut it
#1404 [12:39] <Guest20864> ok..... i guess mine craft wasnt made for me wate a waste of money
#1405 [12:39] <Thrae> Guest20864: How much RAM does your PC computer have?
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#1407 [12:40] <Guest20864> im not sure i was talking to thrae who said i had like non
#1408 [12:40] <Thrae> Sinistrahd: I believe a lot of the RAM usage comes from textures, so with a smaller screen and smaller textures it should have greatly reduced RAM requirements
#1409 [12:40] <Thrae> Guest20864: Were you the guy with a Via GPU and 512MB? guacamole?
#1410 [12:40] <Guest20864> yes
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#1412 [12:41] <Guest20864> is ther anything i can do
#1413 [12:41] <Thrae> Guest20864: Yeah your PC is just not built for gaming even when it was new
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#1415 [12:42] <Guest20864> thats not good will my profile work on different computer
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#1417 [12:43] <Thrae> Guest20864: Your Minecraft profile? Yes
#1418 [12:43] <Guest20864> ok at leasts theres that im going to go now thanks a mil for all ur help
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#1423 [12:53] <Suisong> Does anyone else have a problem with 1.9 crashing on launch? I put the .jar in the appdata and overwrote the other one. Might have installed it wrong.
#1424 [12:53] <Suisong> I hit create world and it closes itself
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#1426 [12:53] <guest-0-92914> hi guys
#1427 [12:54] <guest-0-92914> i got a little problem to buy an account online
#1428 [12:54] <guest-0-92914> anyone here that can help me?
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#1433 [12:57] <guest-0-92914> hi guys. i just tried to buy minecraft and had some issues with it, can someone help me? i got a few questions about that
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#1436 [12:58] <mib_b7inbo> hey
#1437 [13:01] <Morrolan> Yes, leave! Leave as fast as you can!
#1438 [13:01] <Morrolan> Grr
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#1440 [13:02] <grae> Hello, can u help me please?
#1441 [13:02] <grae> i crashed java (i think) and now i cant run the game
#1442 [13:02] <grae> when i run
#1443 [13:03] <grae> black window open and close in 1 secound
#1444 [13:03] <grae> I changed program to run minecraft and i dont know now how to back
#1445 [13:06] <grae> and?
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#1447 [13:08] <grae> ???
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#1449 [13:12] <Morrolan> grae: Did you try to reinstall Minecraft already? Are you on Mac, Windows or Linux?
#1450 [13:13] <huddler> windows
#1451 [13:14] <huddler> no
#1452 [13:14] <Morrolan> huddler: Wasn't talking to you...
#1453 [13:15] <Morrolan> Oh, screw this.
#1454 [13:15] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1454 [13:15] <Morrolan> Jesus. XD
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#1456 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Some days, just isn't meant to be....
#1457 [13:15] <Morrolan> Indeed. ;)
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#1470 [13:40] <mikkelrp1> minecraft keeps saying that my video card driver is bad, and then it shuts down?
#1471 [13:43] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: Whats your OS?
#1472 [13:43] <mikkelrp1> windows 7
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#1474 [13:43] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: Update your graphics drivers, if you don't know what your card is I can assist you.
#1475 [13:44] <Guest41107> I've tried and it says I've had the latest update
#1476 [13:44] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: How have you tried updating it?
#1477 [13:44] <Ryladine> Nbm
#1478 [13:44] <Ryladine> nvm
#1479 [13:45] <Ryladine> Guest that message was not for you.
#1480 [13:45] <mikkelrp1> "minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode."
#1481 [13:45] <Ryladine> That was for another person, when I adress you I will put your name in the front of my message.
#1482 [13:45] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: Yes, Update your graphics card drivers. If you need help doing so I can assist you.
#1483 [13:46] <Ryladine> Guest: What is your problem?
#1484 [13:47] <Guest41107> The same thing. ecxept I've looked to update and the computer says I already have the lates update for the ATI Raedon Card.
#1485 [13:47] <mikkelrp1> i have a AMD Mobility Radeon HD 4650 video card
#1486 [13:47] <Guest41107> Except--
#1487 [13:47] <Ryladine> Guest: Do you run a MAC?
#1488 [13:47] <Guest41107> No.
#1489 [13:47] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: Would you like me to locate your drivers for you?
#1490 [13:47] <Ryladine> Guest: What OS do you run?
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#1492 [13:48] <Guest41107> ohld on
#1493 [13:48] <Guest41107> hold-- I'm pretty sure it's windows 7.
#1494 [13:48] <mikkelrp1> i have tried to update my driveres but it keept saying that it already was updated
#1495 [13:48] <Ryladine> Both of you? Hmmm
#1496 [13:49] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: How did you try to update them?
#1497 [13:49] <Ryladine> Also mikkelrp1: Guest: Desktop or Laptop?
#1498 [13:49] <mikkelrp1> Desktop
#1499 [13:49] <Guest41107> Desktop
#1500 [13:50] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: 632bit or 64bit?
#1501 [13:50] <Ryladine> 32 bit or 64 bit**
#1502 [13:51] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: Guest: How did you try to update your drivers?
#1503 [13:52] <Guest41107> I went to my computer and found the driver and selected the "update Driver" button.
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#1505 [13:52] <Ryladine> Guest: Can you get me your graphics card model?
#1506 [13:52] <mikkelrp1> i'm from Denmark, so i just need to translate, i clicked Controlpanel - Hardware and sound - Units and Printers - double clicked on "my computer" - choosed the tab "hardware" and then selected my video card, and pressed update
#1507 [13:53] <Guest41107> probably. hold on.
#1508 [13:53] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: 64bit OS or 32bit?
#1509 [13:53] <mikkelrp1> 64
#1510 [13:54] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: Download and install the "Catalyst Software Suite" http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx
#1511 [13:54] <Ryladine> That should clear up your issue, if it doesn't come back and I will see if I can help further.
#1512 [13:55] <mikkelrp1> i already think i have that program ?
#1513 [13:55] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: That is the most up to date version.
#1514 [13:55] <Ryladine> The download includes drivers
#1515 [13:56] <mikkelrp1> ok, gonna try that then
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#1519 [13:58] <Ketkuknight> lol :D
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#1521 [13:58] <Ketkuknight> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect</center></font></body></html> anyone else have this?
#1522 [13:58] <Ketkuknight> when logging in?
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#1524 [13:58] <Ryladine> A login error, or just on the page where you login?
#1525 [13:58] <Ryladine> Site, or launcher?
#1526 [13:58] <Ketkuknight> launcher
#1527 [13:59] <Ryladine> Login error, or just on the login page?
#1528 [13:59] <Ketkuknight> on the "page" where you type in the pasword and user
#1529 [13:59] <Ryladine> Ignore it, the MOTD is not displaying correctly. You can try reloading the launcher, or redownloading it, but it's probably a simple glitch or a problem on the site.
#1530 [14:00] <Ketkuknight> i have downloaded it many times and tryed to launch it and close it and launch again
#1531 [14:00] <Ketkuknight> but the only way i can play is if offline
#1532 [14:00] <Ryladine> Site issue then, or a problem recieving the data. Ignore it, it doesn't really matter that much
#1533 [14:01] <Ryladine> Wait, it's the entire page? Including the login button?
#1534 [14:01] <Ketkuknight> no
#1535 [14:01] <Ketkuknight> i can see the..
#1536 [14:01] <Ketkuknight> minecraft logo
#1537 [14:01] <Ketkuknight> the things where i put the text
#1538 [14:01] <Ketkuknight> and the buttons with options and login
#1539 [14:02] <Ryladine> If you can see the login button and where you input your user and pass it should not effect you, unless it is caused by a net issue that is effecting logging in as well.
#1540 [14:02] <Ketkuknight> when i type the user and the password
#1541 [14:02] <Ketkuknight> it says:
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#1543 [14:03] <Ketkuknight> can't connect to minecraft.net
#1544 [14:03] <mikkelrp1> it keeps saying the same thing
#1545 [14:03] <Ketkuknight> yup
#1546 [14:03] <Ryladine> Ketkuknight: Net issue, Try disabling your AV and firewall temporarilly to see if they are the cause, if it fixes it create excetions.
#1547 [14:03] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: Hmm...
#1548 [14:03] <Ketkuknight> ok
#1549 [14:04] <Ryladine> ??> mikkelrp1 win/dxdiag
#1550 [14:04] <VoxelHead> mikkelrp1: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1551 [14:04] <VoxelHead> mikkelrp1: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1552 [14:04] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: Please follow voxelheads instructions.
#1553 [14:05] <mikkelrp1> ok
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#1555 [14:06] <mikkelrp1> http://pastebin.com/uq6y2fiL
#1556 [14:08] <Ryladine> You said it is still reporting an openGL error>
#1557 [14:08] <Ryladine> ?
#1558 [14:08] <Ketkuknight> Ryladine , It still says can't login
#1559 [14:08] <mikkelrp1> yes!
#1560 [14:08] <Ryladine> !isdown
#1561 [14:08] <GreyBot> Ryladine: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1562 [14:08] <Ryladine> Hmm
#1563 [14:09] <mikkelrp1> what could it be?
#1564 [14:09] <Ryladine> Ketkuknight: Your certain you fully disabled all AV and firewall software?/ Do you connect through a local network that could be blocking minecraft?/ What version of java do you run?
#1565 [14:09] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: What version of java do you run?
#1566 [14:09] <Ryladine> ?? java/version
#1567 [14:09] <mikkelrp1> i dont know
#1568 [14:09] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1569 [14:09] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
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#1572 [14:10] <mikkelrp1> version 6 update 27
#1573 [14:11] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: I can only think of one other issue but I'm afraid I don't know how to solve it myself... Did you ever run your video off a chipset on the motherboard?
#1574 [14:12] <mikkelrp1> what do you mean ?
#1575 [14:12] <mikkelrp1> could you explain ? ^^
#1576 [14:12] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: I mean did you add this card yourself and start using it, or was it part of the machine when you bought it?
#1577 [14:13] <mikkelrp1> par tof the machine
#1578 [14:13] <Ketkuknight> Ryladine i have the newest java from the javas official site and all that could block the minecraft is off
#1579 [14:13] <Ryladine> Ketkuknight: You are running java 7?
#1580 [14:13] <Ketkuknight> Ryladine sorry, it took me a while to answer :D
#1581 [14:13] <Ketkuknight> ye...
#1582 [14:14] <Ryladine> Ketkuknight: Downgrade to java 6, java 7 is known to cause a huge ammount of issues with minecraft and could easilly be your problem.
#1583 [14:15] <Ketkuknight> hmm
#1584 [14:15] <mikkelrp1> could you think of anything i could do?
#1585 [14:15] <almostroot> mikkelrp1: Download and install these graphics card drivers: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#1586 [14:15] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: I'm afraid I am unable to solve your problem, please wait here for another helper who may have a solution for you. You can inform them that your graphics drivers are comepletely up to date, that you are running the correct version of java, and that it seems to be an issue with java interacting with openGL
#1587 [14:15] <Ryladine> Almostroot, he already did.
#1588 [14:16] <mikkelrp1> i can't stay... i have to go now...
#1589 [14:16] <Ryladine> I ran out of ideas for him, his graphics are up to date, and his java is the correct version.
#1590 [14:16] <mikkelrp1> could you post a answer somewhere, where i could read it?
#1591 [14:16] <almostroot> According to his dxdiag, he did not update his drivers.
#1592 [14:16] <Ryladine> Hm?
#1593 [14:17] <Ryladine> Where does it say that, I'm afraid I still need to learn how to read the Dxdiag information better.
#1594 [14:17] <almostroot> Ryladine: Under Display Devices, there is "Driver Date/Size".
#1595 [14:17] <Ryladine> Ah
#1596 [14:18] <Ryladine> mikkelrp1: Follow almostroot's dirrections, they will probably solve your issue
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#1599 [14:18] <Ketkuknight2> i'm the ket that was here but left becoase i was downloading java 6
#1600 [14:19] <Ketkuknight2> Hooray!
#1601 [14:19] <Ketkuknight2> it worked
#1602 [14:19] <Ketkuknight2> thanks Ryladine : )
#1603 [14:19] <Ryladine> Ketkuknight: Np, I'm glad I could help.
#1604 [14:20] <mikkelrp1> i just comes woth the same update that you gave me?
#1605 [14:20] <mikkelrp1> with*
#1606 [14:21] <almostroot> mikkelrp1: Did you run the installer completely and reboot when prompted?
#1607 [14:21] <mikkelrp1> like... restart the computer ?
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#1609 [14:22] <almostroot> mikkelrp1: If you read the installer instructions, yes, restart your computer.
#1610 [14:22] <mikkelrp1> oooh...
#1611 [14:22] <mikkelrp1> will do that, and see if it works :)
#1612 [14:22] <mikkelrp1> have to go now
#1613 [14:22] <mikkelrp1> thanks for the support !!
#1614 [14:23] <mikkelrp1> it fucking worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
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#1616 [14:23] <Ryladine> LOL
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#1624 [14:43] <Felix> sup guys
#1625 [14:43] <mib_hj9wek> hi i cannot seem to open my minecraft from my desktop can any one help
#1626 [14:43] <Felix> got a question
#1627 [14:43] <Felix> Is there a way to get rid of the dark grass and dark leaves ?
#1628 [14:44] <Felix> my treehouse complex got ruined trough this *** ugly dark leaves
#1629 [14:45] <mib_hj9wek> Hi what i ment to say when i try and run my minecraft it dosent open
#1630 [14:45] <almostroot> mib_hj9wek: What exactly happens?
#1631 [14:45] <mib_hj9wek> I double click on the program and nothing happens
#1632 [14:47] <Felix> Is no one else annoyed by these ugly dark grass and leave blocks
#1633 [14:47] <Felix> :(
#1634 [14:47] <mib_hj9wek> befor i used to keep falling through the world in multiplayer then i tried redownloading it but it kept saying downloadfing packages
#1635 [14:48] <mib_hj9wek> Now it doesnt let me in at all
#1636 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> Felix: try a texture pack?
#1637 [14:49] <DopeGhoti> mib_hj9wek: what OS are you running Minecraft under?
#1638 [14:49] <mib_hj9wek> xp
#1639 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_hj9wek win/reinst
#1640 [14:50] <VoxelHead> mib_hj9wek: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1641 [14:50] <Felix> like ?
#1642 [14:50] <VoxelHead> mib_hj9wek: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1643 [14:50] <DopeGhoti> Felix: I don't know; I actually like the vanilla texture pack.
#1644 [14:51] <mib_hj9wek> I cant because i doesnt open
#1645 [14:53] <Felix> DopeGhoti but does it change the swamp dark grass into the old "normal" green ?
#1646 [14:53] <mib_hj9wek> i did do that
#1647 [14:53] <mib_hj9wek> but it still doesnt
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#1653 [15:10] <mib_1gu92d> purchase was successful, but there is no game, and in mail messages do not
#1654 [15:10] <Thrae> ??> mib_1gu92d payment
#1655 [15:10] <VoxelHead> mib_1gu92d: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1656 [15:10] <VoxelHead> mib_1gu92d: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1657 [15:11] <Thrae> mib_1gu92d: Give it time. It can take a few hours. If you haven't heard from Mojang in 5 business days, and the money from taken from your bank, then you can contact them.
#1658 [15:11] <mib_1gu92d> ok
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#1664 [15:37] <DrShoggoth> I've started up a minecraft server and I would like a little help with the config. I can get it up and running and connect no problem. The question is about ops vs no ops.
#1665 [15:37] <DrShoggoth> My user cannot create or destroy blocks unless opped, is there a middle ground?
#1666 [15:38] <Ryladine> Drshoggoth: Users SHOULD be able to break things if they are not opped. Can you explain why so I can give you a good opinion and some options?
#1667 [15:39] <DrShoggoth> I agree Ryladine, but users on my server cannot
#1668 [15:39] <DrShoggoth> i dont know why
#1669 [15:39] <DrShoggoth> i will deop myself and try again
#1670 [15:39] <DrShoggoth> 1sec
#1671 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Have they moved away from spawn?
#1672 [15:39] <Ryladine> Thats a good question.
#1673 [15:39] <DrShoggoth> yes
#1674 [15:39] <DrShoggoth> i ran around a bit
#1675 [15:39] <DrShoggoth> logged in and out
#1676 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Modded?
#1677 [15:39] <DrShoggoth> stoped and started the server
#1678 [15:39] <DrShoggoth> no
#1679 [15:39] <DrShoggoth> plain
#1680 [15:40] <Ryladine> Drshoggoth: Can you give me your server's IP so I can come one and see for myself?
#1681 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> You.. sure your users have moved at least 20 blocks away from where they first spawned?
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#1683 [15:41] <DrShoggoth> Oh, no I am not sure GreyVulpine
#1684 [15:41] <DrShoggoth> I didn't know they had to move that far.
#1685 [15:41] <Ryladine> lol
#1686 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> There's a certain radius around spawn that's protected.
#1687 [15:41] <Ryladine> Yeah, spawn protection covers a fair ammount so player's can't dammage it, or place traps on it
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#1689 [15:42] <MontySniper> hello
#1690 [15:42] <DrShoggoth> oh hmmm
#1691 [15:42] <MontySniper> i need major help plzzz
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#1693 [15:42] <Ryladine> With?
#1694 [15:42] <MontySniper> well i just brought mc
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#1696 [15:43] <MontySniper> and i cannot connect to minecraft.net ive tried everything on the web and still no luck
#1697 [15:43] <MontySniper> any of you able to help me
#1698 [15:43] <Ryladine> What is it saying? That you cannot connect or that your user is not premium?
#1699 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - What OS?
#1700 [15:43] <MontySniper> windows 7
#1701 [15:43] <MontySniper> premium
#1702 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> User not premium?
#1703 [15:44] <Ryladine> It can take a few hours for the AUTH servers to recognize you bought minecraft, give it some time and try agian.
#1704 [15:44] <MontySniper> i have brought the game
#1705 [15:44] <MontySniper> i brought it at like 11 am
#1706 [15:44] <MontySniper> uk time
#1707 [15:45] <Ryladine> Hmm
#1708 [15:45] <Ryladine> What exactly is the message you are getting?
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#1710 [15:45] <MontySniper> cannot connect to minecraft.net
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#1712 [15:46] <Ryladine> Ah, sorry I misunderstood when you answered premium earlier then.
#1713 [15:46] <DrShoggoth> ok, so one more. I've heard that you could make areas "unbuildable"
#1714 [15:46] <DrShoggoth> can that be done or am i crazy?
#1715 [15:46] <Jordan> Hello people
#1716 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> DrShoggoth - Not without a modded server
#1717 [15:46] <Ryladine> MontySniper: What version of java do you have installed?
#1718 [15:46] <MontySniper> errrm
#1719 [15:46] <MontySniper> latest cus i gust got my computer today
#1720 [15:46] <MontySniper> just*
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#1722 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - What is your windows username? Does it have a ! mark in it?
#1723 [15:47] <MontySniper> yes
#1724 [15:47] <MontySniper> how do you know that
#1725 [15:47] <Jordan> Is there anywhere I can legally download minecraft 1.73 or the 1.73 appdata files?
#1726 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Frequent error
#1727 [15:47] <DrShoggoth> tyvm
#1728 [15:47] <almostroot> ??> Jordan oldversions
#1729 [15:48] <almostroot> ??< index
#1730 [15:48] <MontySniper> Grey how do you know i have a ! in it
#1731 [15:48] <Jordan> Huh?
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#1733 [15:48] <Jordan> almostroot: I'm not following you
#1734 [15:48] <Ryladine> MontySniper: It's a frequent error that is encountered.
#1735 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - You have two options here. One, make a new windows useraccount that doesn't have a ! mark in it, or two, use our workaround.
#1736 [15:48] <almostroot> ??> Jordan oldversion
#1737 [15:48] <VoxelHead> Jordan: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#1738 [15:48] <Jordan> Hmm
#1739 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> If you want the workaround, we can provide you with one.
#1740 [15:49] <MontySniper> whats a work around
#1741 [15:49] <Jordan> I have a backup of the 1.73 version with the yogbox installed
#1742 [15:49] <Jordan> But I want a clean one
#1743 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - It involves us giving you a modified client to work with your special case..
#1744 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> ??> MontySniper !
#1745 [15:49] <VoxelHead> MontySniper: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#1746 [15:49] <VoxelHead> MontySniper: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
#1747 [15:50] <MontySniper> oh wait
#1748 [15:50] <MontySniper> i dont have an exclimation mark
#1749 [15:50] <MontySniper> sorry lol
#1750 [15:51] <Jordan> Is the tool trustworthy?
#1751 [15:51] <MontySniper> my user name is as it isa on here
#1752 [15:51] <Jordan> I found it yesterday and decided to leave it.
#1753 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - Your windows username, or your minecraft username?
#1754 [15:51] <Ryladine> ... lol
#1755 [15:51] <MontySniper> my windows username is
#1756 [15:51] <MontySniper> MontySniper
#1757 [15:51] <MontySniper> and my mc is the same
#1758 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - Your system's time and date correct?
#1759 [15:52] <MontySniper> yes
#1760 [15:53] <Jordan> What does it say when you go to minecraft.net?
#1761 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - Are you able to connect to https://login.minecraft.net ? It should say "Bad login" if you can.
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#1763 [15:54] <MontySniper> yup it says badlogin
#1764 [15:54] <Mathuin_> This may be a mod question, if so, please direct me to the correct channel. What happens to the client if it is handed a world that happens to be taller than 128 units? If it crashes, are there any mods which will handle very tall worlds elegantly?
#1765 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Mathuin_ - Try #risucraft
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#1767 [15:55] <Mathuin_> GreyVulpine: thanks!
#1768 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - What security software or firewall do you run?
#1769 [15:55] <MontySniper> antivirus ?
#1770 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - AV, firewall, any security suites?
#1771 [15:56] <MontySniper> ?
#1772 [15:56] <MontySniper> Windows firewall
#1773 [15:56] <MontySniper> and avg
#1774 [15:57] <MontySniper> avg free*
#1775 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Is that it?
#1776 [15:57] <MontySniper> is that bad
#1777 [15:58] <MontySniper> ive enabled my firewall to let mc through
#1778 [15:58] <Ryladine> Thats fine monty, but I would advise you incase grey does not know, AVG free has a form of realtime protection it calls it's resident shielf
#1779 [15:59] <Ryladine> shield*
#1780 [15:59] <MontySniper> so what shall i do ?
#1781 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Does the avg free have a network protection aspect?
#1782 [15:59] <MontySniper> how do i find that out
#1783 [16:00] <Ryladine> No, it has no firewall, but I've seen the resident shield cause issues before.
#1784 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - Could you, as a test, disable avg through its menu?
#1785 [16:01] <MontySniper> how ?
#1786 [16:01] <Ryladine> monty: Open AVG, and doubleclick each of the options, it should allow you to disable them from there.
#1787 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - http://free.avg.com/ww-en/faq.num-2429
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#1789 [16:02] <MontySniper> av is down
#1790 [16:03] <MontySniper> ?
#1791 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Try minecraft now?
#1792 [16:03] <MontySniper> still nothing
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#1794 [16:04] <MontySniper> ive emaild notch aswell about it but herd nothing
#1795 [16:05] <DrShoggoth> is there any way to limit new users until they are verified?
#1796 [16:05] <Jordan_> Do you think MCNostalia is safe then?
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#1798 [16:06] <Ryladine> MontySniper: Can you do us a favor and verify your version of java on the link voxelhead is about to give you? I would assume it's the correct one but it's better to check rather than skip it and find out later that was the problem.
#1799 [16:06] <Ryladine> ??> MontySniper java/version
#1800 [16:06] <VoxelHead> MontySniper: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1801 [16:06] <VoxelHead> MontySniper: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1802 [16:06] <MontySniper> You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 27).
#1803 [16:07] <Ryladine> Alright, thats the correct version but it never hurts to check just to be sure.
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#1805 [16:08] <MontySniper> i just wanna build ;(
#1806 [16:08] <MontySniper> :(
#1807 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#1808 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> I just want to make absolutely sure that your user profile's foldername doesn't have a ! mark in it
#1809 [16:09] <MontySniper> what do you want to know
#1810 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> What is the folder's name you're in now?
#1811 [16:09] <MontySniper> MontySniper
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#1813 [16:10] <guest-0-34336> hi
#1814 [16:11] <ShadowBlaze18> hi
#1815 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, MontySniper, are you able to connect to minecraft.net via your browser? Can you pull up that website?
#1816 [16:11] * GreyVulpine waves to ShadowBlaze18
#1816 [16:11] <MontySniper> yeah i got it tabbed at the moment
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#1818 [16:11] <ShadowBlaze18> Hi
#1819 [16:11] <ShadowBlaze18> *waves*
#1820 [16:11] * ShadowBlaze18 waves
#1820 [16:11] <Ryladine> Montysniper: Do you use hamachi?
#1821 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - Quite honestly, I'm a little stumped, we've gone through basically every common problem that usually gives that error
#1822 [16:12] <MontySniper> havent downloaded that yet
#1823 [16:12] <Ryladine> I would suggest you simply don't download it, but that elinates a possible problem.
#1824 [16:12] <ShadowBlaze18> *waits patiently :)*
#1825 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - You're not running anything else other than AVG free, or the windows firewall? No peerblock/peerguardian, no other third party firewalls?
#1826 [16:13] <MontySniper> nope its just avg and windows defender
#1827 [16:13] <Ryladine> MontySniper: Do you connect VIA a public connection? Like a school, Mcdonals, or a library?
#1828 [16:14] <MontySniper> nope
#1829 [16:14] <MontySniper> home connection
#1830 [16:14] <MontySniper> wired
#1831 [16:14] <Jordan_> Could using the client help at all?
#1832 [16:14] <Ryladine> MontySniper: Have you tried running the game from the browser?
#1833 [16:14] <MontySniper> yup
#1834 [16:14] <Ryladine> Same problem?
#1835 [16:14] <MontySniper> just get a black screen
#1836 [16:15] <Ryladine> Hmm
#1837 [16:15] <Ryladine> Moment
#1838 [16:15] <Mathuin_> Someone in #risucraft mentioned that 1.9 has/will-have support for taller worlds, but I don't see anything about that on the wiki's "upcoming features" page. Does anyone have a pointer to this?
#1839 [16:16] <Ryladine> I need to go, sorry guys.
#1840 [16:17] <ShadowBlaze18> may someone help me after your done?
#1841 [16:17] <MontySniper> Right who has notches number
#1842 [16:17] <MontySniper> im gunna shout at him till he sorts it
#1843 [16:17] <MontySniper> I WANNA PLAY MC
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#1845 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Mathuin_ - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history -- There's mention in the 1.8/9 patch notes that the code was changed to make it easier to have the height limit increased
#1846 [16:17] <ShadowBlaze18> ummm I downloaded the pre-relaese but I can;t open the file
#1847 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> ShadowBlaze18 - Where did you place it?
#1848 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - Happen to have teamviewer?
#1849 [16:18] <ShadowBlaze18> it auto downloads because I have chrome
#1850 [16:18] <MontySniper> whats that ?
#1851 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> ShadowBlaze18 - Do you know where it downloaded to?
#1852 [16:18] <ShadowBlaze18> google chrome
#1853 [16:18] <ShadowBlaze18> let me check
#1854 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - It's a remote software, allows a person to connect to your computer remotely, and control your keyboard/mouse, also see what you see. Helps in troubleshooting
#1855 [16:19] <ShadowBlaze18> im opening it seems to need java
#1856 [16:19] <ShadowBlaze18> opened it yay!
#1857 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> ShadowBlaze18 - You don't open the pre release .jar directly
#1858 [16:19] <ShadowBlaze18> oh
#1859 [16:19] <ShadowBlaze18> well it opened
#1860 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> You need to place it in your .minecraft/bin/ folder, replacing the old version with it
#1861 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> You need to figure out where you downloaded it to
#1862 [16:19] <MontySniper> i dont trust that stuff
#1863 [16:19] <ShadowBlaze18> I don't have old version
#1864 [16:20] <ShadowBlaze18> I don't have old version but I downloaded pre-release
#1865 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - The fault does lie with Notch or his code. It's your computer.
#1866 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - Something on it is blocking minecraft/java from communicating with the outside
#1867 [16:21] <MontySniper> what would be doing that
#1868 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#1869 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> ??> MontySniper dxdiag
#1870 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> ??> MontySniper win/dxdiag
#1871 [16:21] <VoxelHead> MontySniper: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1872 [16:21] <Jordan_> the fault does lie with the code?
#1873 [16:21] <VoxelHead> MontySniper: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1874 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Jordan_ - Nope
#1875 [16:21] <ShadowBlaze18> awww dang
#1876 [16:21] <ShadowBlaze18> I must be prenium
#1877 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> ShadowBlaze18 - Yes.
#1878 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> You need to pay for minecraft beta to be able to play it
#1879 [16:22] <ShadowBlaze18> oh then I need to get minecraft soon :P
#1880 [16:22] <ShadowBlaze18> before price rises
#1881 [16:22] <Jordan_> I think there is a demo
#1882 [16:22] <MontySniper> irc channel ?
#1883 [16:23] <ShadowBlaze18> gtg
#1884 [16:23] <ShadowBlaze18> bye
#1885 [16:23] <Jordan_> What?
#1886 [16:23] <ShadowBlaze18> thanx
#1887 [16:23] <ShadowBlaze18> for
#1888 [16:23] <ShadowBlaze18> helping
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#1890 [16:24] <MontySniper> whats the irc channel ?#
#1891 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> This is
#1892 [16:25] <MontySniper> http://pastebin.com/RvyaamZg
#1893 [16:25] <MontySniper> that the one ? ?
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#1896 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Yes, one moment
#1897 [16:27] <MontySniper> kk
#1898 [16:27] <Mathuin_> GreyVulpine: so no real change yet in height. just wait and see. :-(
#1899 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Yeah Mathuin_
#1900 [16:29] <Mathuin_> I am just so tired of 128. So frustrated. Bah.
#1901 [16:30] <MontySniper> did that help atall
#1902 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - Could you try updating your video drivers from: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-280.26-whql-driver.html
#1903 [16:31] <MontySniper> ok downloading it now
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#1905 [16:34] <Jordan_> Is almostroot a bot?
#1906 [16:34] <almostroot> Yes.
#1907 [16:34] <Kealper> yes
#1908 [16:34] <Jordan_> 1.73
#1909 [16:34] * almostroot dances for the amusement of the channel.
#1909 [16:34] <MontySniper> ok that is fully installed
#1910 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> MontySniper - Did it ask you to restart your computer afterwards?
#1911 [16:35] <MontySniper> no
#1912 [16:35] <MontySniper> shall i restart
#1913 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Sure, then try minecraft again
#1914 [16:37] <MontySniper> ok i shall be back in a min
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#1917 [16:41] <MontySniper> Im back
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#1921 [16:44] <uselesswolf> hey
#1922 [16:44] <MontySniper> STILL DOESNT WORK
#1923 [16:44] <uselesswolf> can someone tell me how to update the minecraft server?
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#1926 [16:46] <uselesswolf> MontySniper please yelling dosnt help ^^
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#1928 [16:46] <MontySniper> sorry just angry
#1929 [16:46] <MontySniper> my mc wont load up
#1930 [16:47] <MontySniper> ive had such awesome help off ppl in here but still no luck
#1931 [16:47] <uselesswolf> sorry pal dont know much about minecraft
#1932 [16:47] <Sinistrahd> uselesswolf to update the server you just download the newest version and replace the file you have
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#1934 [16:47] <uselesswolf> i did
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#1936 [16:47] <uselesswolf> is there no new linux version?
#1937 [16:48] <Sinistrahd> hmm dunno if they haven't updated that one, I actually use the craftbukkit server so I get mine from a different place than you would
#1938 [16:49] <uselesswolf> what is craftbukkit?
#1939 [16:49] <Sinistrahd> MontySniper if the pros aren't getting you up and running I probably won't be much more help, but I'd recommend creating a pastebin of all the stuff you've done so far that you can have helpers reference so they don't have you try the same stuff again
#1940 [16:50] <Sinistrahd> uselesswolf it's a version of the server that people who tend to run lots of mods use
#1941 [16:50] <uselesswolf> u can show me how to make this craftbukkit thing?
#1942 [16:50] <Sinistrahd> they have a channel on here actually, #bukkit - but they block mibbit users
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#1944 [16:50] <uselesswolf> im on irc here
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#1946 [16:50] <Sinistrahd> ok then I'd check in with them and read the FAQs on their site
#1947 [16:51] <Sinistrahd> if you decide to try it out
#1948 [16:51] <Sinistrahd> the problem with any other 3rd party server though is when new updates come out for the regular server, it takes a few days for them to catch up
#1949 [16:52] <uselesswolf> i am lazy
#1950 [16:52] <Sinistrahd> and your users might get impatient and move to a different server to try out the new stuff
#1951 [16:52] <uselesswolf> i dont even have minecraft
#1952 [16:52] <uselesswolf> i just provide a server for some friends
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#1954 [16:52] <uselesswolf> they do awesome things there
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#1956 [16:52] <Sinistrahd> in that case I'd just stick with the vanilla server unless they request bukkit
#1957 [16:53] <Sinistrahd> sometimes it will have bugs even in the recommended builds that can damage world saves
#1958 [16:53] <Sinistrahd> not often, but it is a possibility (as it is with the vanilla version I guess)
#1959 [16:53] <Sinistrahd> gotta run, time to walk the Dane
#1960 [16:53] <yoshi> my minecraft won't log in in the downloaded version and it doesn't work in browser
#1961 [16:55] <yoshi> i recently tried to use custom made texture packs, could that have something to do with it?
#1962 [16:55] <L34N> did this start after you installed the texture packs?
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#1964 [16:56] <yoshi> it didn't happen until after i tried to do it
#1965 [16:56] <Monty_Sniper> GreyVulpine you there
#1966 [16:56] <yoshi> but my first worked in browser once when i tried
#1967 [16:57] <L34N> I would remove the texture packs and make sure both the client and the browser are working properly
#1968 [16:57] <L34N> then try to reinstall the texture packs and see where that leads you
#1969 [16:57] <yoshi> also i've tried to install the 1.9 pre release but i have many times replaced my entire .minecraft
#1970 [16:57] <yoshi> once i failed to install it
#1971 [16:58] <L34N> what OS are you running
#1972 [16:58] <Felix> PLEASE
#1973 [16:58] <Felix> how to change the swamp biome colors back to the "normal" green?
#1974 [16:58] <yoshi> windows 7
#1975 [16:58] <Felix> it ruined my treeehouse hard. :'(
#1976 [16:59] <Felix> im so sad
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#1978 [17:01] <L34N> yoshi, did you try completely uninstalling and then installing the stock 1.9?
#1979 [17:01] <yoshi> i deleted the entire .minecraft and redownloaded it
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#1981 [17:02] <mib_lezw69> my minecraft says out of memory every time i load the game
#1982 [17:02] <mib_lezw69> what do i do
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#1984 [17:02] <L34N> and still no workie?
#1985 [17:03] <mib_lezw69> yeah
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#1988 [17:04] <yoshi> i have minecraft edit but im always sure to close minecraft b4 using it
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#1990 [17:06] <yoshi> nope
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#1992 [17:06] <L34N> It may be worth installing java just to rule it out
#1993 [17:06] <L34N> reinstalling*
#1994 [17:07] <yoshi> k i'll try
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#1996 [17:09] <L34N> I need to run a server for a private party for about 2 days. I know I can use the classic version but it seems to be very buggy with MAC clients. Anyone know of a better way to allow a web client to connect to a server that is a bit more stable?
#1997 [17:09] <Samildinach> Hi guys
#1998 [17:09] <Samildinach> :)
#1999 [17:09] <Samildinach> I need some advice
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#2001 [17:10] <Samildinach> please
#2002 [17:10] <uselesswolf> nice server updated
#2003 [17:10] <uselesswolf> thats
#2004 [17:10] <uselesswolf> thanks
#2005 [17:11] <Samildinach> It says my game is a pirate,but I bought the original fair and square. Is there someone I can talk to help me with this problem?
#2006 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Samildinach - Try doing a force update through the launcher's options menu
#2007 [17:12] <Samildinach> There's a launcher?
#2008 [17:12] <Samildinach> I still have the old menu,did a new one come out recently
#2009 [17:12] <Samildinach> I'm from pre-beta days ^^
#2010 [17:13] <DreadLindwyrm> As the topic says, we cannot help with account issues. If updating doesn't help, make sure you are logged in correctly. If that doesn't work you'll need to contact Mojang directly.
#2011 [17:13] <Thrae> Samildinach: A new one came out about a month ago. I suggest you download it -- among other things, the new launcher uses SSL to transmit login data, has news, and has the ability to force an update
#2012 [17:13] <Thrae> !client
#2013 [17:14] <Samildinach> Fantastic!Thank you so much :)
#2014 [17:14] <Samildinach> Want to go check out the ghost towns (npc villages)
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#2016 [17:15] <Monty_Sniper> Hey greyVulpine still dont work
#2017 [17:15] <L34N> anyone see my question about the private party?
#2018 [17:16] <Samildinach> erm
#2019 [17:16] <Samildinach> Hamachi?
#2020 [17:16] <Samildinach> just chucking it in there
#2021 [17:16] <L34N> lol..
#2022 [17:18] <mib_qszzff> Hi! I have a question, When I use the free form of minecraft, It says: "Exception: Pixel Format Not Excelerated" Can I do anything about this?
#2023 [17:18] <L34N> what i'm doing is hosting a conference and we've created a challenge in game. We want people to be able to play this challenge without requiring purchase (b/c its only for a couple days) but the free 'Classic' browser version is very buggy on some of our clients (specifically MAC). Is there a better way to accomplish this?
#2024 [17:19] <DreadLindwyrm> mib_qszzff: that sounds like a graphics driver issue. You might need to update your drivers
#2025 [17:19] <Felix> okay srs guys
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#2027 [17:19] <Monty_Sniper> any help plz
#2028 [17:19] <Monty_Sniper> i cant access minecraft
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#2030 [17:20] <Felix> there has to be an way how to get water going further
#2031 [17:20] <Monty_Sniper> i get the cannot connect to minecraft.net
#2032 [17:20] <DreadLindwyrm> !isdown
#2033 [17:20] <GreyBot> DreadLindwyrm: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2034 [17:20] <Thrae> Monty_Sniper: Grab the latest launcher from minecraft.net/download
#2035 [17:20] <DreadLindwyrm> how far do you want it to go Felix ?
#2036 [17:20] <Monty_Sniper> i have i brought it this morning (11am UK time)
#2037 [17:20] <mib_qszzff> DreadLindwyrm I did. I tried it a couple of times... Ad I got the Java logo to show up and then it flashes then goes black...
#2038 [17:20] <mib_nnag0w> how do you get files from your mine craft account so you can play your saved game from your other computer?
#2039 [17:20] <Felix> like 30 blocks
#2040 [17:21] <Felix> but with more water buckets its looks fake
#2041 [17:21] <mib_qszzff> *and
#2042 [17:21] <Thrae> Monty_Sniper: Does it work in-browser?
#2043 [17:21] <Monty_Sniper> nope
#2044 [17:21] <mib_nnag0w> does any1 know?
#2045 [17:21] <Monty_Sniper> black screens
#2046 [17:21] <DreadLindwyrm> Put a gradient of about 1 in 7 or so in and your water should keep flowing
#2047 [17:21] <mib_nnag0w> how to get your saved files from your other computer?
#2048 [17:21] <DreadLindwyrm> mib_nnag0w: PC or Mac?
#2049 [17:22] <mib_nnag0w> pc
#2050 [17:22] <Thrae> Monty_Sniper: Uninstall all versions of Java, then install Java 6 Update 27 from WugBot's link
#2051 [17:22] <Thrae> :j
#2052 [17:22] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#2053 [17:22] <Monty_Sniper> thats the version im on
#2054 [17:22] <Thrae> Monty_Sniper: The key is the reinstall.
#2055 [17:23] <L34N> So I take it my question isn't possible b/c no one is responding.
#2056 [17:23] <DreadLindwyrm> mib_nnag0w: Browse to %appdata%/.minecraft and you should be able to copy the files
#2057 [17:23] <Monty_Sniper> what one do i press
#2058 [17:23] <Monty_Sniper> x64
#2059 [17:23] <Monty_Sniper> x86on or offline
#2060 [17:24] <Monty_Sniper> x86 kerenal
#2061 [17:24] <Thrae> Monty_Sniper: Do you have 64-bit Windows?
#2062 [17:24] <Monty_Sniper> errmm
#2063 [17:24] <Monty_Sniper> dunno 1 min
#2064 [17:24] <Monty_Sniper> 32
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#2066 [17:24] <mib_nnag0w> hello does any1 know how to get your saved minecraft files from a different computer?
#2067 [17:25] <DreadLindwyrm> Just copy the files across. They are in %appdata%/roaming/.minecraft
#2068 [17:25] <mib_nnag0w> ok ill try that thanks
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#2070 [17:26] <Thrae> Monty_Sniper: 32-bit == x86, but not x86_64 or 64
#2071 [17:27] <Monty_Sniper> reinstalling now
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#2073 [17:29] <mib_qszzff> On the outdated version, I have all the newest updates, but I can't get it to work right...
#2074 [17:29] <Thrae> What "outdated version"?
#2075 [17:30] * MontySniper [MontySniper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2076 [17:30] <mib_qszzff> The free version?
#2077 [17:30] <MontySniper> hey guys im back
#2078 [17:30] <MontySniper> and still no luck
#2079 [17:30] <Thrae> You mean Classic?
#2080 [17:30] <mib_qszzff> Yeah...
#2081 [17:30] <Thrae> MontySniper: Have any Internet Protection software, security software, firewall, anti-virus?
#2082 [17:31] <MontySniper> avg
#2083 [17:31] <MontySniper> already stopped it and tried
#2084 [17:31] <Thrae> MontySniper: Hmm, seems like a lot of people with AVG are having problems...try going into Safe Mode
#2085 [17:31] <MontySniper> how do i do that
#2086 [17:32] <Thrae> MontySniper: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm <-- select "Safe Mode with Networking" when you get the menu
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#2088 [17:32] <Thrae> mib_qszzff: What's happening when you try Classic?
#2089 [17:32] <mib_nnag0w> how do i get my files from app data is it under computer?
#2090 [17:32] <Thrae> mib_nnag0w: Windows Key + R, type in %APPDATA%\.minecraft and you're there
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#2092 [17:33] <MontySniper> ]how is that supposed to help
#2093 [17:33] <Thrae> MontySniper: Safe Mode will disable most things that could be blocking Java/Minecraft
#2094 [17:34] <MontySniper> ill try it
#2095 [17:34] <MontySniper> brb
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#2097 [17:35] <BlackHawk> Hi, i was wondering if its possible to change my Minecraft game name at all? I mistakenly put a lowercase letter at the start of my username and its really bugging me :P
#2098 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> BlackHawk - No. Not at this time
#2099 [17:36] <BlackHawk> Maybe in the Future?
#2100 [17:36] <mib_cgr2s4> my mine craft freezes at the mojang screen help!!
#2101 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> It's possible
#2102 [17:36] <mib_qszzff> Umm... It loads but it shows the minecraft sign then goes black and a pop-up says some letters/numbers and "Exception: Pixel format not excelerated"
#2103 [17:36] <BlackHawk> Thanks :D you were very helpful
#2104 [17:36] <CrusaderDeleters> I no die.
#2105 [17:36] <CrusaderDeleters> woops
#2106 [17:36] <mib_cgr2s4> I've tried everything to fix it
#2107 [17:37] <mib_cgr2s4> I'm on a mac btw
#2108 [17:37] <Thrae> mib_cgr2s4: What version of OS X?
#2109 [17:37] <mib_cgr2s4> lion
#2110 [17:38] <Thrae> mib_qszzff: Hmm, sounds like your video card doesn't properly support OpenGL. Did you try updating your drivers?
#2111 [17:38] <mib_cgr2s4> how do i do that?
#2112 [17:38] <Thrae> ??< mac/.minecraft/lion
#2113 [17:38] <Thrae> mib_cgr2s4: *You* need to do something else. Try this....
#2114 [17:39] <Thrae> ??> mac/.minecraft/lion mib_cgr2s4
#2115 [17:39] <mib_cgr2s4> k 1 sec
#2116 [17:39] <Thrae> ??> mib_cgr2s4 mac/.minecraft/lion
#2117 [17:39] <VoxelHead> mib_cgr2s4: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#2118 [17:39] <mib_qszzff> I don't know how to do that... I tried everything else...
#2119 [17:39] <mib_nnag0w> All i see in that app data is the saves from this computer not any of them from my other computer =P
#2120 [17:39] <Thrae> mib_qszzff: Updating your video card drivers is one of the most common fixes for most problems ;) Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#2121 [17:40] <Thrae> ??> mib_qszzff win/dxdiag
#2122 [17:40] <VoxelHead> mib_qszzff: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2123 [17:40] <VoxelHead> mib_qszzff: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2124 [17:40] <Thrae> mib_nnag0w: You have to go to your other computer to get the saves from that computer
#2125 [17:40] <DreadLindwyrm> mib_nnag0w: that'd be because you need to copy the files from one computer to the other o_O
#2126 [17:40] <mib_nnag0w> does any1 know how to get old saves from a different computer?
#2127 [17:40] <mib_nnag0w> ohh
#2128 [17:40] <Thrae> mib_nnag0w: They're stored on your hard drive, which is a piece of hardware local to the computer you're on.
#2129 [17:40] <mib_nnag0w> hmm
#2130 [17:40] <mib_qszzff> Thrae: Here's EXACTLY what it said on the pop-up: org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#2131 [17:40] <mib_nnag0w> so where do i copy them to?
#2132 [17:41] <Thrae> mib_qszzff: I know what "Pixel Format" error messages are and they indicate bad video card drivers or bad video cards.
#2133 [17:41] <Thrae> mib_qszzff: Follow the instructions VoxelHead sent to give us your DxDiag information and we can help update your drivers.
#2134 [17:41] <mib_nnag0w> how do i copy it from computers?
#2135 [17:42] <Thrae> mib_nnag0w: Burn them to a CD, copy them to an online storage account, use a USB thumb drive, whatever
#2136 [17:42] <mib_nnag0w> ok
#2137 [17:42] <Thrae> mib_nnag0w: Copying files off of a computer is something most people have to learn in their lifetime
#2138 [17:42] <mib_nnag0w> yea
#2139 [17:42] <mib_cgr2s4> how do i paste things on terminal
#2140 [17:42] <mib_qszzff> Should I use the screenshot function so you can get what it looks like?
#2141 [17:42] <DreadLindwyrm> heck, e-mail them to yourself :D
#2142 [17:43] <mib_nnag0w> i just dont know how to use it in minecraft after?
#2143 [17:43] <Thrae> mib_cgr2s4: Bring up the menu and go to Paste
#2144 [17:43] <DreadLindwyrm> Copy them into the same location on the other computer.
#2145 [17:43] <mib_nnag0w> ok
#2146 [17:43] <mib_nnag0w> and t should work right?
#2147 [17:43] <mib_nnag0w> it*
#2148 [17:43] <Thrae> mib_nnag0w: Copy the files into the %APPDATA%\.minecraft folder. Note if the world names are exactly the same then it'll overwrite them.
#2149 [17:44] <mib_nnag0w> ok thanks
#2150 [17:44] <mib_cgr2s4> mine craft still doesn't lod
#2151 [17:44] <mib_cgr2s4> load*
#2152 [17:44] <Thrae> ??> mib_cgr2s4 mac/permissions
#2153 [17:44] <VoxelHead> mib_cgr2s4: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#2154 [17:44] <VoxelHead> mib_cgr2s4: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
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#2156 [17:45] <mib_qszzff> I can't copy anything...
#2157 [17:45] <Thrae> mib_cgr2s4: Follow those instructions too
#2158 [17:45] <Thrae> mib_qszzff: After you open the file in Notepad, go to Edit->Select All before you go Edit->Copy
#2159 [17:46] <mib_cgr2s4> what was the command for the java app stub
#2160 [17:47] <Thrae> mib_cgr2s4: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2161 [17:47] <mib_cgr2s4> so i paste chmod into it
#2162 [17:48] <Thrae> mib_cgr2s4: The entire command.
#2163 [17:48] <mib_cgr2s4> put the command in terminal?
#2164 [17:48] <Thrae> Yes
#2165 [17:48] <mib_qszzff> so, I got all of the info... so, Do I have to sign up to paste it on the site you gave the link to me?
#2166 [17:48] <mib_cgr2s4> k one sec
#2167 [17:48] <Thrae> mib_qszzff: No registration required
#2168 [17:49] <mib_cgr2s4> it says no such file or directory
#2169 [17:49] <mib_qszzff> ok...
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#2171 [17:49] <Thrae> mib_cgr2s4: Did you install Minecraft.zip into Applications?
#2172 [17:49] <guest-0-33406> My blocks aren't dropping when broken
#2173 [17:49] <guest-0-33406> How can I fix?
#2174 [17:49] <Thrae> mib_qszzff: We're going to need the link to see it....
#2175 [17:50] <mib_qszzff> It won't let me even paste anything...
#2176 [17:50] <mib_cgr2s4> ok i pasted it.. nothing happened
#2177 [17:50] <BecksDad> Anyone else had blocks not dropping bug?
#2178 [17:50] <Thrae> mib_qszzff: Left-click on the big white box and use CTRL+V to paste it.
#2179 [17:51] <Elbardo> Hey, I keep getting this error whenever I try to run minecraft from the browser. http://pastebin.com/h1qHrPxx Does anyone know what it means?
#2180 [17:51] <mib_cgr2s4> it says unexpected token 'chmod'
#2181 [17:51] <Thrae> mib_cgr2s4: http://www.minecraft.net/download <-- make sure you are downloading the Minecraft.zip file and unpack the Minecraft folder into /Applications
#2182 [17:52] <mib_qszzff> hold on...
#2183 [17:52] <Thrae> mib_cgr2s4: You're not inputting the command right. Make sure there's not a space before "chmod".
#2184 [17:52] <mib_cgr2s4> i did
#2185 [17:52] <mib_cgr2s4> oh ok
#2186 [17:53] <mib_cgr2s4> ok i pasted it again and nothings happening
#2187 [17:53] <Thrae> Elbardo: Try deleting your browser's cache and Java's cache and Temporary Files and try again
#2188 [17:53] <Thrae> mib_cgr2s4: It doesn't say anything for success
#2189 [17:53] <mib_cgr2s4> nope
#2190 [17:53] <Thrae> Elbardo: Alternatively, try a different browser, like Chrome
#2191 [17:54] <Thrae> mib_cgr2s4: No, I mean the command will not say anything if it's successful
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#2193 [17:54] <Elbardo> Thrae just a sec
#2194 [17:54] <Thrae> mib_cgr2s4: Try Minecraft again
#2195 [17:55] <mib_qszzff> It still doesn't work...
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#2197 [17:55] <mib_cgr2s4> YES it works!! THANKYOU SO MUCH
#2198 [17:55] <Elbardo> Thrae still have the same problem on chrome.
#2199 [17:56] <Thrae> mib_qszzff: Try pastie.org or pastebin.ca
#2200 [17:56] <Ashen> Umm. Might get this a bunch but, I can't stop getting an OpenGL error when I try to play. All drivers are up to date and my java is too. :/ I had been playing it earlier before it all went kaput.
#2201 [17:56] <mib_qszzff> pastie.org worked... link: http://pastie.org/2619318
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#2204 [17:58] <Thrae> mib_qszzff: Download and install this graphics driver update -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20188/a08/Win7Vista_151717.exe
#2205 [17:59] <Ashen> I dont use vista or 7, it's xp.
#2206 [17:59] <mib_qszzff> downloading...
#2207 [17:59] <mib_qszzff> It'll take me 6 mins it says...
#2208 [17:59] <Thrae> Ashen: You're only being addressed when "Ashen" is at the start of the sentence
#2209 [17:59] <Ashen> also it happens on either the website and the download
#2210 [17:59] <Ashen> i'm just providing moar info
#2211 [18:00] <Thrae> Ashen: What's the exact error? If it's long, put it on www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
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#2213 [18:00] <Thrae> mib_qszzff: Also your Windows is pretty out-of-date, you need to go to Windows Update as your Windows is currently insecure and missing important updates. It's in Control Panel.
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#2216 [18:01] <rumpler> i have a problem running the game on my computer i have aleady purchased the game?
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#2222 [18:02] <Thrae> !ops
#2223 [18:02] <Thrae> :kick DreamScale No advertising.
#2224 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> I got em
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#2226 [18:03] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Thanks. I guess TheNytangel didn't know what he was talking about when he said I could kick ;)
#2227 [18:03] <TheNytangel> I never said you could
#2228 [18:03] <Ashen> mmk i got the error on pastebin
#2229 [18:04] <Thrae> TheNytangel: Maybe I'm thinking of TheNoodle...I get people's names mixed up
#2230 [18:04] <mib_qszzff> updating my driver...
#2231 [18:04] <Thrae> Ashen: We'll need the link to your paste
#2232 [18:04] <Jordan_> Hay guys, I'm going to be loud and obnoxious.
#2233 [18:04] <Thrae> Jordan_: Please not in this channel.
#2234 [18:04] <Jordan_> Ok then, I guess I will just not do that thing
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#2236 [18:05] <Ashen> http://pastebin.com/qwcypE9x this is the one. and i did get it on occasion before, but simply restarting it would let me play. i haven't changed anything though, so it shouldn't be a problem. it's just no matter how many times i restart the game it wont work.
#2237 [18:05] <Jordan_> Is there anywhere I can legally download minecraft 1.73 or the 1.73 appdata files? I'm wanting to play the newer buildcraft
#2238 [18:05] <Thrae> ??> Ashen win/dxdiag
#2239 [18:05] <VoxelHead> Ashen: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2240 [18:06] <VoxelHead> Ashen: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2241 [18:06] <Thrae> Ashen: Follow VoxelHead's instructions and we can help you update your video card driver.
#2242 [18:06] <Thrae> ??> Jordan_ oldversions
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#2244 [18:06] <Thrae> ??> Jordan_ oldversion
#2245 [18:06] <VoxelHead> Jordan_: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
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#2247 [18:07] <Jordan_> I have a backed up .minecraft but it has yogbox on it
#2248 [18:07] <Jordan_> Is there any way I can remove all mods?
#2249 [18:07] <mib_qszzff> ok... This may take a little time...
#2250 [18:07] <Thrae> Jordan_: Not a guarunteed way. MCNostalgia does work, though, with the official release.
#2251 [18:07] <Jordan_> What's with the "??> Jordan_ oldversion" thing
#2252 [18:07] <Jordan_> It creeps me out
#2253 [18:07] <mib_3lekhm> every time i try to play the game my screen goes black
#2254 [18:08] <Thrae> Jordan_: VoxelHead is a bot. I gave him a command.
#2255 [18:08] <Jordan_> Aright
#2256 [18:08] <mib_qszzff> same here mib_3lekhm
#2257 [18:08] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm: Any mods or texture packs installed?
#2258 [18:08] <Jordan_> Have you guys moved any of the minecraft files around?
#2259 [18:09] <Ashen> here you go~ http://pastebin.com/pP8WPBXy
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#2261 [18:10] <mib_3lekhm> my screen always goes black and i cant play it at all has this ever happend has any one had this appen and fixed
#2262 [18:10] <Ashen> i like you guys, you're actually helpful :D
#2263 [18:10] <frogzilla> hello
#2264 [18:10] <Thrae> Ashen: Hmm, Intel Series 4 graphics chipset. It's a sucky chipset with OpenGL and pretty much gaming in general. Try this batch file -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/experimental/LaunchMinecraftmx800.bat
#2265 [18:10] <Thrae> Ashen: Place it in the same directory as Minecraft.exe (if it's on your desktop then your desktop) and run the batch file.
#2266 [18:10] <frogzilla> how to you get the most stable release?
#2267 [18:10] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm: Any mods or texture packs installed?
#2268 [18:11] <Thrae> frogzilla: The launcher will automatically download the latest release.
#2269 [18:11] <Thrae> Latest official is 1.8.1
#2270 [18:11] <frogzilla> mine does not :( and i cannot figure out what the problem is
#2271 [18:12] <Thrae> frogzilla: What happens when you select "Force Update" under the launcher's options and login?
#2272 [18:12] <frogzilla> one sec...
#2273 [18:12] <Ashen> same error~
#2274 [18:12] <frogzilla> where would i see the "Force update", after or before the login screen?
#2275 [18:12] <Ashen> frogzilla under Options on the login page
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#2277 [18:13] <frogzilla> updating...
#2278 [18:13] <frogzilla> thank you!
#2279 [18:13] <mib_7txqhr> its umbaridge again
#2280 [18:13] <Ashen> ^^
#2281 [18:13] <mib_3lekhm> can some one plz help me
#2282 [18:13] <Ashen> Thrae I got the same error. Or it looks the same, did you want me to pastebin that too?
#2283 [18:14] <mib_7txqhr> apparently my windows nine browser or sumthing windows is friggen blocking minecraft download
#2284 [18:14] <Thrae> Ashen: One sec...I'm going to try to mod you a newer driver
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#2286 [18:14] <mib_3lekhm> has it ever happend to you guys whne you try to play and the screen goes black
#2287 [18:14] <Ashen> making me feel all special xD
#2288 [18:14] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm> has it ever happend to you guys whne you try to play and the screen goes black <-- I've been asking you questions. Whenever I say "mib_3lekhm" I am talking to you!
#2289 [18:15] <mib_3lekhm> can some on plz help me
#2290 [18:15] <mib_3lekhm> oh
#2291 [18:15] <mib_3lekhm> yes it ha
#2292 [18:15] <mib_7txqhr> lawl
#2293 [18:15] <mib_3lekhm> has
#2294 [18:15] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm: Do you have any texture packs or mods installed?
#2295 [18:15] <mib_7txqhr> well hello again thrae
#2296 [18:15] <Thrae> mib_7txqhr: Yes?
#2297 [18:15] <mib_3lekhm> i wasnt paying paying atention to my name O_O
#2298 [18:15] <Ashen> y'know i paid like $700 for this pc at the end of march 2009, specifically for "gaming" >.> and i got a bad one huh? :C
#2299 [18:15] <mib_7txqhr> its umbaridge from yesterday - _-
#2300 [18:16] <mib_7txqhr> turns out something windows nine browser or security or some crap is blocking it
#2301 [18:16] <mib_7txqhr> so i deleted my freakin...security.... software
#2302 [18:16] <Thrae> Ashen: Not really...it just doesn't contain a video card. Instead it contains a special "media accelerator" pipeline on your CPU, known as "GPU-on-die" or just "integrated graphics chipset".
#2303 [18:16] <mib_7txqhr> for no reason..... DAMMIT!*facepalms repeatedly*
#2304 [18:17] <Thrae> Ashen: So add in a video card, preferably ATI or Nvidia, and you've got a decent gaming machine
#2305 [18:17] <mib_3lekhm> thrae can you help me with my problem
#2306 [18:17] <Thrae> Would throw you back anywhere from $40 to $400 depending on how much power you want
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#2308 [18:17] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm: **READ THIS*** Do you have any texture packs or mods installed?
#2309 [18:17] <mib_3lekhm> i dont think so
#2310 [18:18] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm: Are you using Windows?
#2311 [18:18] <mib_3lekhm> yesh
#2312 [18:18] <Thrae> mib_7txqhr: Yeah, that's usually why we say try other browsers if you're using the in-browser version
#2313 [18:18] <Thrae> ??> mib_3lekhm win/reinst/bat
#2314 [18:18] <VoxelHead> mib_3lekhm: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2315 [18:18] <VoxelHead> mib_3lekhm: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#2316 [18:19] <mib_3lekhm> what
#2317 [18:19] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm: Use the batch files to wipe clean the Minecraft game files
#2318 [18:19] <mib_7txqhr> hmmm
#2319 [18:19] <mib_7txqhr> maaaan
#2320 [18:19] <mib_3lekhm> i dont know how to do that
#2321 [18:19] <mib_7txqhr> this mean ill hafta... oh man
#2322 [18:19] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm: Download the batch file and run it.
#2323 [18:19] <mib_7txqhr> going on mozilla now
#2324 [18:20] <mib_3lekhm> so go to batch file online
#2325 [18:20] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm: You download the file then run the file.
#2326 [18:20] <mib_3lekhm> where is the file
#2327 [18:20] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#2328 [18:20] <Ashen> ohh
#2329 [18:20] <Ashen> OHH
#2330 [18:20] <Ashen> If I knew that I'd have gotten one a while ago ~.~
#2331 [18:21] <mib_3lekhm> thank you
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#2333 [18:21] <Thrae> Ashen: No, I'm saying your *current* system only needs a dedicated graphics card to be a decent gaming computer....if you had an older system before it may have needed the other upgrades (especially RAM)
#2334 [18:22] <mib_3lekhm> thrae i did it but nothings happening
#2335 [18:22] <Thrae> Ashen: A graphics card is something your current system can still use. Installing it isn't too hard if you want to buy and install it yourself -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7dBELhb7n0
#2336 [18:22] <Ashen> No no, I know. I meant that if I knew my current PC needed a video card, I'd have gotten a video card like. 2 years ago LOL
#2337 [18:23] <Thrae> Just plug it in, plug in the power cable if needed, and you should be done with the hardware installation part
#2338 [18:23] <mib_3lekhm> thrae i donwloaded that thing but i dont see a chang
#2339 [18:23] <mib_3lekhm> thrae i donwloaded that thing but i dont see a chang
#2340 [18:23] <Jordan_> Are you sure there isn't a way to remove all mods?
#2341 [18:23] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm: Run the launcher again and Minecraft should re-download.
#2342 [18:23] <mib_3lekhm> sorry it just typed it again
#2343 [18:24] <Thrae> Jordan_: We don't help with modding here. All we do is remove the minecraft.jar and let the launcher re-download.
#2344 [18:24] <Jordan_> I can't get MCNostalgia to work I think it may because I have python 2.6
#2345 [18:24] <mib_7txqhr> i think i finally can play it.
#2346 [18:24] <Jordan_> ok
#2347 [18:24] <Thrae> Jordan_: You can have multiple versions of Python on your system.
#2348 [18:24] <mib_7txqhr> *drum roll please*
#2349 [18:24] <Jordan_> Yeah
#2350 [18:25] <Jordan_> I think I'll just wait it out
#2351 [18:25] <Jordan_> Since I need python 2.6
#2352 [18:25] <mib_7txqhr> HELL YEAH!
#2353 [18:25] <mib_7txqhr> FINALLY!!!
#2354 [18:25] <Jordan_> Is that all problems sorted now?
#2355 [18:25] <mib_7txqhr> WHEEEEEEEW
#2356 [18:26] <mib_7txqhr> thabk your face thrae
#2357 [18:26] <mib_7txqhr> i finally can experience minecraft
#2358 [18:27] <Ashen> I was gonna tell him to build a small house asap. D: But I guess he'll learn..
#2359 [18:28] <Thrae> Ashen: OK, use the Update Driver Wizard in Device Manager to try and install these drivers -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/WinVista7_151717.zip
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#2362 [18:29] <Wiesl> hello! one question:any other mirror anywhere for the modloaderMP 1.7.3 v2 instead of mediafire because it seems like it is down...
#2363 [18:29] <Wiesl> http://www.mediafire.com/?j60zj1ljdtv03g7 the link to the file^^
#2364 [18:29] <Thrae> Wiesl: Ask in #risucraft
#2365 [18:29] <Wiesl> ok thx
#2366 [18:30] <Jordan_> Do mods ever change any of the files that come with minecraft?
#2367 [18:30] <Thrae> Yes, sometimes
#2368 [18:30] <Jordan_> Does that mean they would come with the files themselves?
#2369 [18:30] <Jordan_> or does it go into the file and change it?
#2370 [18:31] <Thrae> They overwrite the files in the JAR sometimes
#2371 [18:31] <mib_3lekhm> thrae is it suppossed to say updating
#2372 [18:31] <Jordan_> with complete files?
#2373 [18:31] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm: Did you go into the Minecraft launcher?
#2374 [18:31] <Jordan_> are they allowed to do that?
#2375 [18:31] <Ashen> where's the Wizard? I'm looking through the Device Manager, but i dont see the wizard anywheres
#2376 [18:31] <mib_3lekhm> minecraft what
#2377 [18:31] <Thrae> mib_3lekhm: The Minecraft launcher/client. On Windows, it's the Minecraft.exe. It downloads the rest of Minecraft.
#2378 [18:32] <mib_3lekhm> well i didnt know that
#2379 [18:32] <mib_3lekhm> oh well its updating minecraft
#2380 [18:32] <Jordan_> I think I could recover old .minecrafts from computers at college actually
#2381 [18:33] <Thrae> Ashen: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283658 , under "Updating or changing a device driver". You want the "Have Disk" option.
#2382 [18:33] <Thrae> Ashen: Go to "Have Disk" in the wizard, then browse to the Graphics folder in the folder created from extracting the zip
#2383 [18:33] <mib_3lekhm> thrae its fixed thank you for your time
#2384 [18:33] * Thrae nods to mib_3lekhm
#2384 [18:34] <guest-0-71483> hey so I'm a bit of a bit nooby and was wondering if someone could link the download to the 1.9 patch or explain if I'm doing something wrong by pressing the force-update button on the login screen? (my client doesn't seem to want to patch to 1.9 using this method)
#2385 [18:35] <Thrae> guest-0-71483: 1.9 isn't released yet. There's a pre-release for testing, but we don't support it here until it's been released, as there can be critical bugs.
#2386 [18:35] <guest-0-71483> ok
#2387 [18:35] <Thrae> guest-0-71483: http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/230-19-pre-release-is-out-for-testing/
#2388 [18:35] <guest-0-71483> oooh you're lovely :D
#2389 [18:35] <guest-0-71483> tyvm
#2390 [18:35] <CrusaderDeleters> thrae, theres gonna be a post-pre-release
#2391 [18:36] <CrusaderDeleters> but its still a pre-release XD
#2392 [18:36] <Thrae> CrusaderDeleters: We don't support it until the launcher allows you to update to it.
#2393 [18:36] <CrusaderDeleters> I know.
#2394 [18:36] <Thrae> (IE, an official release)
#2395 [18:36] <Thrae> But yeah there was one with 1.8-pre too
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#2398 [18:39] <Jordan_> What?
#2399 [18:39] <Jordan_> Are you official help?
#2400 [18:39] <Jordan_> What do you mean you don't support it?
#2401 [18:39] <Jordan_> I support it, at least.
#2402 [18:39] <Thrae> We don't support pre-releases here as a general rule. It's in the topic.
#2403 [18:40] <Jordan_> Well you can PM me, I guess. I'll do my best.
#2404 [18:40] <Kealper> you are free to help with it if you want to
#2405 [18:40] <Kealper> but this channel is not obligated to provide support for it
#2406 [18:40] <Thrae> I think people also make channels like #1.8help and #1.9help which you're welcome to do, as well as help people directly
#2407 [18:45] <mib_3lekhm> thrae im playing it but every time i look at some thing my hand turns black -_-
#2408 [18:46] * Thrae is on break/AFK.
#2408 [18:47] <mib_3lekhm> um can some one help me with my problem
#2409 [18:48] <mib_3lekhm> excuse me
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#2411 [18:50] <CrusaderDeleters> just ask already
#2412 [18:50] <mib_3lekhm> is any one willing to help me
#2413 [18:50] <CrusaderDeleters> ?ask
#2414 [18:50] <CrusaderDeleters> dang it
#2415 [18:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Don't ask to ask XD
#2416 [18:51] <mib_3lekhm> huh
#2417 [18:51] <mib_3lekhm> what are you talking about
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#2419 [18:51] <CrusaderDeleters> <18:50:37> <mib_3lekhm> is any one willing to help me
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#2421 [18:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Don't ask to ask, just ask your question XD
#2422 [18:51] <mib_3lekhm> oh ok
#2423 [18:52] <mib_3lekhm> um my hand in mine craft keeps truning difrent colors
#2424 [18:52] <Ashen> Grrr. Had a power outage :(.. where's the guy that was helping me?
#2425 [18:52] <Ashen> Thrae! That was him
#2426 [18:52] <mib_3lekhm> thrae left
#2427 [18:52] <Ashen> No D:
#2428 [18:52] <mib_3lekhm> ik he was helping me two hes on brake
#2429 [18:52] <TheNytangel> Yesssssss
#2430 [18:52] <JohnEBH> He's on a break*
#2431 [18:53] <Ashen> Ohh. So he'll be back.. well that's better then him being gone for 10 hours or something
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#2433 [18:53] <zero_1_2> Why does my server keep creating blocks where i destroy them
#2434 [18:53] <mib_3lekhm> well do you guys have the awnser to my hand truning difrent colors in mid game in minecraft
#2435 [18:54] <Ashen> Mine did that too, also chests were doing that.
#2436 [18:54] <mib_3lekhm> truning difrent colors?
#2437 [18:54] <mib_3lekhm> turning*
#2438 [18:54] <zero_1_2> its preventing me and my wife from playing :( we cant destroy anything
#2439 [18:54] <TheNytangel> mib_3lekhm, your bracelet is on too tight?
#2440 [18:54] <zero_1_2> it destroys it sometimes, but most of the time, it will destroy then create
#2441 [18:55] <mib_3lekhm> i dont have a braclet
#2442 [18:55] <Ashen> But now I can't play whatsoever, so. Is moar important ._. I'm still downloading what thrae wanted me to, but when it finishes, he wanted me to use a Driver Installing Wizard through Device Manager.. and I dunno where the wizard is. I know what the manager is but i cant find the wizard.
#2443 [18:55] <TheNytangel> Therefore cutting off circulation
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#2445 [18:55] <zero_1_2> anyone have an idea?
#2446 [18:55] <TheNytangel> zero_1_2, are you in spawn..?
#2447 [18:56] <Ashen> Zero_1_2 usually that's either lag from the internet connection, or you're doing it around the spawn. Lots of places have spawn protection where you can't destroy blocks within like 10 spaces. So move away from where you are and try to dig.
#2448 [18:56] <zero_1_2> it happens in spawn or out of it
#2449 [18:56] * |Kiikun|Janus| has lots of ideas... but none are probably relevant
#2449 [18:56] <zero_1_2> but its via network connection
#2450 [18:56] <zero_1_2> lan
#2451 [18:56] <mib_3lekhm> plus how do i use the craft box
#2452 [18:56] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_3lekhm: you mean crafting table?
#2453 [18:56] <Ashen> if you're using a fake lan like hamachi, it's still going to use the internet, so you still might lag.
#2454 [18:56] <zero_1_2> and i shouldnt have lag if im hosting right?
#2455 [18:56] <JohnEBH> zero_1_2- Do you see errors on the server console?
#2456 [18:56] <zero_1_2> im using real lan
#2457 [18:57] <zero_1_2> not at all
#2458 [18:57] * JohnEBH thinks of fake lan...
#2458 [18:57] <zero_1_2> localhost
#2459 [18:57] <JohnEBH> Try playing on an empty mp server? xD
#2460 [18:57] <zero_1_2> XD that doesnt help
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#2462 [18:58] <JohnEBH> Hosting on the same machine you play on?
#2463 [18:58] <zero_1_2> is it still loading blocks?
#2464 [18:58] <zero_1_2> yes
#2465 [18:58] <mib_3lekhm> well aparently my hand truning black isnt a big deal
#2466 [18:58] <zero_1_2> nope
#2467 [18:58] <JohnEBH> ??> zero_1_2 win/dxdiag
#2468 [18:58] <VoxelHead> zero_1_2: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2469 [18:58] <VoxelHead> zero_1_2: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2470 [18:58] <Ashen> it's a graphical issue.. i'm not sure what causes it
#2471 [18:59] <zero_1_2> u got it
#2472 [18:59] <mib_3lekhm> uh how do i use the craft box
#2473 [18:59] <Ashen> right click..?
#2474 [18:59] <mib_3lekhm> ok
#2475 [18:59] <mib_3lekhm> ill try ti
#2476 [18:59] <mib_3lekhm> welp the games not respnding
#2477 [19:00] <JohnEBH> ??> mib_3lekhm win/dxdiag
#2478 [19:00] <VoxelHead> mib_3lekhm: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2479 [19:00] <VoxelHead> mib_3lekhm: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2480 [19:01] <zero_1_2> http://pastebin.com/v6GYD2m2
#2481 [19:01] <JohnEBH> Got it.
#2482 [19:02] <JohnEBH> zero_1_2- Are using the gui or command line?
#2483 [19:02] <zero_1_2> gui
#2484 [19:03] <JohnEBH> Download this and save it to where your server is. Make sure your server is off and use this to launch it. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28343287/Tools/run.bat
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#2487 [19:04] <zero_1_2> did that just up the ram it used?
#2488 [19:05] <JohnEBH> well it's supposed to be using 1GB of RAM anyways
#2489 [19:05] <JohnEBH> Any lower and you should've even be running a server
#2490 [19:05] <zero_1_2> lol it says its using 150mb
#2491 [19:05] <zero_1_2> -_-
#2492 [19:05] <TheNytangel> JohnEBH, when's the last time you been around
#2493 [19:05] <zero_1_2> 120**
#2494 [19:05] <JohnEBH> Nevar.
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#2496 [19:06] <zero_1_2> alright, ill post with results
#2497 [19:06] <zero_1_2> ty
#2498 [19:06] <TheNytangel> JohnEBH, Wug disected the MC launcher, it doesn't matter what you start the game at. It always.. ALWAYS goes back to 1GB when playing the game
#2499 [19:07] <JohnEBH> TheNytangel- It's for the server froob
#2500 [19:07] <zero_1_2> the server location is in .minecraft right?
#2501 [19:07] <JohnEBH> Not trying to launch his MC. MC server xD
#2502 [19:07] <JohnEBH> Um no... It's where ever you saved it xD
#2503 [19:08] <Rusher> can somebody help me, I am having problems with minecraft, it lags ALOT for me and sometimes crashes saying i need ram bla bla bla. and I have an AWESOME computer. 8GB of ram Intel i7 processor a great graphic card I have w7 64-bit
#2504 [19:08] <JohnEBH> Rusher- You're not using 64bit Java are you?
#2505 [19:09] <JohnEBH> ??> Rusher getjava
#2506 [19:09] <VoxelHead> Rusher: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2507 [19:09] <Rusher> I think I am. no idea
#2508 [19:09] <JohnEBH> Rusher- http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=52249
#2509 [19:09] <JohnEBH> Rusher- Download and install
#2510 [19:10] <Rusher> Ok, I will download this and restart my computer. I will be back and tell you if it works! thanks for responding so fast guys!!! my friend recently got help on his minecraft!
#2511 [19:10] <zero_1_2> well shit
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#2513 [19:10] <zero_1_2> i have no idea where i saved it, i just use minecraft_server.exe
#2514 [19:11] <zero_1_2> XD
#2515 [19:11] <zero_1_2> nvm
#2516 [19:11] <JohnEBH> lol
#2517 [19:11] <zero_1_2> o.o
#2518 [19:12] <zero_1_2> so sloppy
#2519 [19:12] <zero_1_2> its all over my downloads
#2520 [19:12] <JohnEBH> I can help you faster via teamviewer
#2521 [19:12] <zero_1_2> server info and what not
#2522 [19:12] <zero_1_2> i got it now
#2523 [19:12] <JohnEBH> Mkay
#2524 [19:12] <zero_1_2> ty anyway
#2525 [19:13] <JohnEBH> Np
#2526 [19:13] <JohnEBH> Another alternative is that you're welcome on my empty servers xD
#2527 [19:13] <Ashen> Thrae!
#2528 [19:14] <JohnEBH> He disconnected and reconnected.
#2529 [19:14] <JohnEBH> He's not back =P
#2530 [19:14] <Ashen> Bah
#2531 [19:14] * Ashen hides in a corner.
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#2532 [19:17] * |Kiikun| pokes Ashen
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#2533 [19:17] <zero_1_2> worked like a charm
#2534 [19:17] * Ashen sniffles.
#2534 [19:17] <zero_1_2> thanks john
#2535 [19:18] <JohnEBH> Np
#2536 [19:18] <Ashen> So i've got this driver or something that Thrae told me to get. He said to use Device Manager's install Wizard. And I know where the Manager is, but I don't see anything about any wizard. :c And the download just finished.
#2537 [19:18] <zero_1_2> whats your guys favorite server mod?
#2538 [19:19] <zero_1_2> type device manager in search bar in start menu
#2539 [19:19] <zero_1_2> windows 7 has spoiled me
#2540 [19:19] <|Kiikun|> Ashen: a video driver? he having you force windows to accept it?
#2541 [19:20] * Ashen shrugs. "At this point I forget. I'm just doing as told. xD"
#2541 [19:20] <zero_1_2> what are you trying to do?
#2542 [19:20] <Ashen> Make minecraft work again. Suddenly i get an OpenGL error all the time. Can't play (previously been able to play)
#2543 [19:21] <zero_1_2> then yep, update drivers
#2544 [19:21] <zero_1_2> it should just be an executable...
#2545 [19:21] <Rusher> So.. like i said I have this issue "can somebody help me, I am having problems with minecraft, it lags ALOT for me and sometimes crashes saying i need ram bla bla bla. and I have an AWESOME computer. 8GB of ram Intel i7 processor a great graphic 1.6.0_27 card I have w7 64-bit" and I just checked my java and it is
#2546 [19:21] <zero_1_2> unless yours is ooooooooooold
#2547 [19:22] <Ashen> it's in a .rar but there's a Setup in there.
#2548 [19:22] <Rusher> 1.6.0_27
#2549 [19:22] <zero_1_2> update drivers rusher
#2550 [19:22] <Ashen> and i bought the computer in 2009 :s supposed to be for 'gaming'
#2551 [19:23] <Rusher> sorry it didnt add the version in there... tomany characters. Drivers for what?
#2552 [19:23] <zero_1_2> everything
#2553 [19:23] <zero_1_2> update..it..all
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#2555 [19:23] <Rusher> They have been! >:( this is a bran new computer.....
#2556 [19:23] <zero_1_2> brand new as in yesterday u bought it?
#2557 [19:23] <Ashen> bran new computers aren't always updated. xD
#2558 [19:23] <zero_1_2> ^
#2559 [19:24] <zero_1_2> unless u built it
#2560 [19:24] <|Kiikun|> [18:32] <+Thrae> Ashen: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283658 , under "Updating or changing a device driver". You want the "Have Disk" option.
#2561 [19:24] <|Kiikun|> [18:33] <+Thrae> Ashen: Go to "Have Disk" in the wizard, then browse to the Graphics folder in the folder created from extracting the zip
#2562 [19:24] <Rusher> Well I have the latest and up to date graphics card driver (the beta one, because I needed it for BF3) and as to my other drivers... it doesn't tell me anything Via the Windows Update. so I wouldn't know if they need updating or how to check if they do
#2563 [19:25] <|Kiikun|> that the part you done at? *rolled back in log*
#2564 [19:25] <|Kiikun|> Rusher: 'brand new computers' are updated to whatever drivers were available when the computer was initially designed.
#2565 [19:25] <zero_1_2> or whatever the mfg wanted
#2566 [19:26] <|Kiikun|> Rusher: and since drivers can be updated ever few months.. they tend to be outdated for 'latest'
#2567 [19:26] <|Kiikun|> zero_1_2: that too. especially dell since they mod the hardware ids so you can only use drivers from them :/
#2568 [19:26] <zero_1_2> thats why i built mine :)
#2569 [19:27] * |Kiikun| has fully build last 3 main systems.
#2569 [19:27] <zero_1_2> this is my first one i did by myself
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#2571 [19:31] * Ashen still trying to find the Hardware Update Wizard. xD
#2571 [19:31] <|Kiikun|> ash, this xp or 7?
#2572 [19:32] <|Kiikun|> o.o;;;
#2573 [19:32] <|Kiikun|> the sky just farted..
#2574 [19:32] <Ashen> xp
#2575 [19:32] <Ashen> i gots device manager up D:
#2576 [19:32] * |Kiikun|Janus| [|Kiikun|Janus|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2577 [19:34] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Ashen: open device manager, click the plus next to 'Display Adapters', rightclick your intelcra.. i mean Intel video device thing, then click 'update driver...'
#2578 [19:35] <Ashen> shh you
#2579 [19:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> night wuggler :P
#2580 [19:36] <|Kiikun|> why yous tell me to shh? :P
#2581 [19:36] <Ashen> "intelcra"
#2582 [19:36] <|Kiikun|Janus|> oh :3
#2583 [19:36] <Ashen> do i.. click autorun? D:
#2584 [19:36] <Ashen> it wants an .inf
#2585 [19:37] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Ashen: 'no windows update' 'install from specific location' 'dont search' then browse int othe folder with the extracted drivers threa had you download
#2586 [19:38] <|Kiikun|Janus|> oh.. and 'have disk...'
#2587 [19:38] <Ashen> well the thing he had me download was a .rar with everything.
#2588 [19:38] <Ashen> i got to have disk
#2589 [19:38] <Ashen> and all it allows me to get is an .inf
#2590 [19:38] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Ashen: dont have winrar or 7zip?
#2591 [19:38] <Ashen> i do, i extracted it :s
#2592 [19:39] <Ashen> and inside that folder, the only thing i think i can click is an autorun.inf
#2593 [19:39] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Ashen: ok its probably in that folder somewhere..
#2594 [19:39] <|Kiikun|Janus|> what other folders are there?
#2595 [19:39] <|Kiikun|Janus|> IN that folder
#2596 [19:39] <Ashen> Graphics, HDMI, ibxHDMI, IIPS, Intel Control Center, Lang, MediaSDK
#2597 [19:39] <Ashen> an hurry i gotta go eat ._.
#2598 [19:40] <Ashen> or i'll go eet. and then i'll be back D:
#2599 [19:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> in graphics
#2600 [19:41] <Ashen> theres a igdlh.inf
#2601 [19:41] <Ashen> and a Lang folder again
#2602 [19:41] <Ashen> they's yelling at me @_@ i gotta go. i'll be back asap. D:
#2603 [19:41] <|Kiikun|Janus|> try that one
#2604 [19:42] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ok
#2605 [19:42] <Ashen> ok
#2606 [19:43] <mib_3lekhm> i still cant use the craft box
#2607 [19:43] <mib_3lekhm> :(
#2608 [19:44] * |Kiikun|Janus| has no idea what the mib is talking about
#2608 [19:44] <mib_3lekhm> can some one tell me how to use craft box
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#2610 [19:45] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_3lekhm: what do you mean 'craft box'?
#2611 [19:45] <mib_3lekhm> the thing you make like a pick axe with
#2612 [19:46] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_3lekhm: the crafting table? you put items on it in the pattern for the item and you can then pick the item up on the right side
#2613 [19:46] <paddie> I need help with installing the classic version it says fatal error 4
#2614 [19:46] <mib_3lekhm> ok ill try that
#2615 [19:46] <mib_3lekhm> but i cant acses the screeen
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#2617 [19:47] <|Kiikun|Janus|> . . . did minecraft crash and you just havent fully closed it?
#2618 [19:47] <paddie> anybody
#2619 [19:47] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_3lekhm: or you mean right clickign the table doesnt open it?
#2620 [19:47] <Roryhawke> Having trouble purchasing the game..trying to buy several copies and none of us can get a text message verification
#2621 [19:47] <mib_3lekhm> yeah the table wont open
#2622 [19:47] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_3lekhm: you DID place it.. right?
#2623 [19:47] <mib_3lekhm> yeah
#2624 [19:48] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_3lekhm: done a forceupdate yet?
#2625 [19:48] <mib_3lekhm> yeah just toay
#2626 [19:48] <mib_3lekhm> well not force
#2627 [19:48] <mib_3lekhm> just a reguler update
#2628 [19:49] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Roryhawke: is the payment processor denying you?
#2629 [19:49] <Roryhawke> nope making us do a verification by sendin a text message to outr phones
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#2631 [19:49] <mib_3lekhm> oh i know the awnser to that one put a short verson of your name in
#2632 [19:49] <Roryhawke> and we never get the texts
#2633 [19:50] <mib_3lekhm> it wokred whne it did it to me
#2634 [19:50] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Roryhawke: o.o;; havent heard of that before.
#2635 [19:50] <Roryhawke> got a room full of people wanting to play and were stuck
#2636 [19:51] <paddie> I need help with installing the classic version it says fatal error 4
#2637 [19:51] <mib_3lekhm> but what do i do to open the craft table
#2638 [19:51] <Roryhawke> go back in and redo payment info and then it say "rened verification code" but it still never sends
#2639 [19:52] <Roryhawke> phones are different carriers so its not that
#2640 [19:52] <Roryhawke> and other texts work..
#2641 [19:52] <Roryhawke> *resend
#2642 [19:53] <mib_3lekhm> what was that red warning about
#2643 [19:53] <paddie> what red warning
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#2645 [19:53] <mib_3lekhm> aparently im on my own now
#2646 [19:53] <r4gnar0k> heyhey
#2647 [19:54] <paddie> but does anybody know what to do
#2648 [19:54] <|Kiikun|Janus|> paddie: update/reinstall java at www.java.com
#2649 [19:55] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_3lekhm: your playing single player and unmodded, right?
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#2651 [19:56] <JohnEBH> !check MPG.JHServers.net
#2652 [19:56] <|Kiikun|Janus|> lol
#2653 [19:56] <|Kiikun|Janus|> john! you borked it!
#2654 [19:57] <JohnEBH> Nuuu! T.T
#2655 [19:57] <JohnEBH> !check MPG.JHServers.net
#2656 [19:57] <JohnEBH> REALLY? OMFG...
#2657 [20:00] * r4gnarr0k [r4gnarr0k@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2658 [20:01] <JohnEBH> !check MPG.JHServers.net:25566
#2659 [20:01] * JohnEBH sighs
#2659 [20:02] <r4gnarr0k> hey guys, i really need some help :/ the launcher just plain won't download the files... every single time i try to install it, it will freeze at a random % of one of the necessary files. i delete the entire .minecraft folder each time, have restarted every electronic device in the house, reinstalled java, etc
#2660 [20:03] <rev-lemon> r4gnarr0k turn off your firewall and antivirus and try goto minecraft.net and click in broswer after you login :P
#2661 [20:03] <r4gnarr0k> also done those
#2662 [20:03] <|Kiikun|> r4gnarr0k: redownload the client first. and with java did you uninstall THEN reinstall?
#2663 [20:03] <r4gnarr0k> browser dont download them either
#2664 [20:04] <r4gnarr0k> and yes, uninstalled, then reinstalled java, disabled all firewalls, antivirus, i'm at a loss :/
#2665 [20:04] <|Kiikun|> r4gnarr0k: try updating video drivers
#2666 [20:05] <r4gnarr0k> done :/
#2667 [20:05] <almostroot> r4gnarr0k: As in you've already done that? Or you just did that?
#2668 [20:05] <r4gnarr0k> have already done it
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#2670 [20:06] <almostroot> r4gnarr0k: What version of Java are you using? Are you using the .exe to start the game or the .jar?
#2671 [20:07] <r4gnarr0k> latest version for Win7 from the java site, using the exe on minecraft.net to start game, settting to force update, etc
#2672 [20:09] <r4gnarr0k> It, on occasion, after consistently trying a download, it freezing, then me closing the exe, deleting the .minecraft and then repeating that whole process, will start to run, but it hasn't downloaded everything, namely a lot of sound files missing
#2673 [20:09] <|Kiikun|> almostroot: think wug's troubleshooting launcher might help track down the problem?
#2674 [20:09] <r4gnarr0k> I'll have a look at that, thanks
#2675 [20:09] <almostroot> Never even bothered to look at it.
#2676 [20:09] <|Kiikun|> :ts/launcher
#2677 [20:09] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#2678 [20:09] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#2679 [20:10] <JohnEBH> !check MPG.JHServers.net
#2680 [20:10] <|Kiikun|> JohnEBH: whats up?
#2681 [20:11] <JohnEBH> If it's cause the IP isn;t right in the DNS settings... I'll be cheesed. (Deleted the server and started from scratch)
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#2683 [20:12] <|Kiikun|> JohnEBH: whats the ip supposed to be?
#2684 [20:12] <JohnEBH> No idea...
#2685 [20:12] <|Kiikun|> !check
#2686 [20:12] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2687 [20:12] <JohnEBH> !ip
#2688 [20:12] <JohnEBH> !GIVEMEMYIPDAMNIT.
#2689 [20:12] <almostroot> |Kiikun|: Ummmm... I think that application violates Mojang's terms of service.
#2690 [20:13] <almostroot> |Kiikun|: So lets not use that.
#2691 [20:13] <|Kiikun|> root: tell wug :P and ill stop mentioning it until someoen tells me its ok
#2692 [20:14] <JohnEBH> !check 184.146.106.139
#2693 [20:15] <JohnEBH> Hmmm so it is the server >:
#2694 [20:15] <almostroot> |Kiikun|: I looked in the jar, and it contains Mojang's stuff, and they are pretty explicit about redistribution: Don't/
#2695 [20:15] <almostroot> http://www.minecraft.net/terms
#2696 [20:16] * |Kiikun| knows...
#2696 [20:16] <almostroot> ;kthnx
#2697 [20:17] <almostroot> ;stfu
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#2700 [20:21] <xales> Kealper, poke
#2701 [20:21] <almostroot> xales: By the way, belated welcome back.
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#2703 [20:22] <xales> heh, thanks
#2704 [20:22] <bellows> Hi
#2705 [20:22] <bellows> bellows?
#2706 [20:22] <bellows> hmmmmm
#2707 [20:22] <EightDarkSkulls> Thats better
#2708 [20:22] <EightDarkSkulls> Hello?
#2709 [20:23] <EightDarkSkulls> Can someone help me?
#2710 [20:23] <EightDarkSkulls> heeeellllloooooo
#2711 [20:23] <EightDarkSkulls> I guess everyone is afk
#2712 [20:23] <EightDarkSkulls> well bye
#2713 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Only if you don't rely on our telepathic skills to determine your problem
#2714 [20:24] <EightDarkSkulls> ...
#2715 [20:24] <EightDarkSkulls> huh?
#2716 [20:24] <EightDarkSkulls> So can you help me?
#2717 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> "I have a problem" "With?" "Minecraft" "What about it?" "It doesn't work" "How doesn't it work"....
#2718 [20:24] <EightDarkSkulls> I can't join any minecraft classic servers
#2719 [20:25] <EightDarkSkulls> failed to connect
#2720 [20:25] <EightDarkSkulls> you failed to connect to the server. it's probably down
#2721 [20:25] <EightDarkSkulls> but it's not down
#2722 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Then either the server is really down, or your security software/firewall is blocking java
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#2724 [20:25] <EightDarkSkulls> how would I fix that?
#2725 [20:26] <Ashen> Booo. :(
#2726 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Got a different computer you can try this on?
#2727 [20:26] <EightDarkSkulls> I already know it works on my laptop
#2728 [20:26] <Ashen> Kiikun or Thrae around? :C
#2729 [20:26] <EightDarkSkulls> but i cant use that now
#2730 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> If the other computer works, then you'll need to look into what security software you're running
#2731 [20:26] <EightDarkSkulls> ok
#2732 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> See if you can set up java to be allowed through
#2733 [20:27] <EightDarkSkulls> k
#2734 [20:27] * Ashen mumbles some grumbles.
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#2735 [20:29] <EightDarkSkulls> I turned off my firewall and it still doesn't work.
#2736 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> What firewall do you run?
#2737 [20:30] <EightDarkSkulls> is norton a firewall?
#2738 [20:31] <Ashen> norton's an antivirus..
#2739 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Norton can come in many packages, either a simple antivirus, or a security suite.
#2740 [20:32] <EightDarkSkulls> i think its antivirus
#2741 [20:33] <EightDarkSkulls> all it says is windows firewall
#2742 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Try a different server?
#2743 [20:34] <EightDarkSkulls> all servers
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#2745 [20:36] <Ashen> :c |Kiikun| and Thrae is afk :c i am doomed.
#2746 [20:36] * |Kiikun| is just being quiet and reading webcomics
#2746 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> EightDarkSkulls - Have you tried disabling norton altogether?
#2747 [20:37] <EightDarkSkulls> no
#2748 [20:37] * Ashen blames |Kiikun| for her minecraft problems.
#2748 [20:37] <|Kiikun|> Ashen: what did it say after telling it to try using the igdlh.inf file?
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#2750 [20:37] <claspedmetal> it wont let me run the game it say error and doll
#2751 [20:38] <|Kiikun|> . . . error and doll...
#2752 [20:38] <Ashen> it wanted me to replace newer files, so i just said yes :c then it wanted a pc reboot so i said yes. then i got back on and it gave me a couple errors and it set my screen resolution to 1024 x 768 :c
#2753 [20:38] <claspedmetal> yeah it says error:doll
#2754 [20:38] <Ashen> but i tried minecraft again and it didn't fix it :c
#2755 [20:39] <claspedmetal> plz help
#2756 [20:41] * Ashen hides.
#2756 [20:42] * Ashen peeks over |Kiikun| 's shoulder to read the webcomic too.
#2756 [20:43] <|Kiikun|> Ashen: www.nerfnow.com :P
#2757 [20:43] <Ashen> omai D:
#2758 [20:44] <Ashen> i didn't know you were into.. that..
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#2760 [20:44] * Ashen laffs. xD
#2760 [20:44] <|Kiikun|> yes :P i like the tenticle's comic :P
#2761 [20:45] <theAEmix> hey. you guys have time for a question from a noob server admin?
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#2763 [20:45] * |Kiikun| goes make food
#2763 [20:45] <Ashen> they dont, but what they do, do is MAKE time. :3
#2764 [20:45] <|Kiikun|> theAEmix: just ask
#2765 [20:45] <|Kiikun|> if someone knows it theyll speak up :P
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#2767 [20:46] <theAEmix> lol. good to know. i have a server running plain vanilla 1.8.1 and for some reason i have to op everyone to allow them to break or place blocks
#2768 [20:46] <Ashen> das just part of the mods you're using :s
#2769 [20:47] <Ashen> it's like how a White list works. You say who gets to build/destroy and who doesn't
#2770 [20:47] <theAEmix> there aren't any mods on this server. and white list is false
#2771 [20:47] <mib_c0nsxx> when i try to run minecraft it says fatail error(4):null
#2772 [20:47] <Ashen> they're not all huddled around the spawn right? xD
#2773 [20:48] <theAEmix> lol. you know, they very well might be. whats the block distance on spawn again? 15?
#2774 [20:48] <|Kiikun|> theAEmix: you need op to alter the area around spawn.
#2775 [20:48] <|Kiikun|> think its 20
#2776 [20:48] <Ashen> it's something like that yeah.
#2777 [20:48] <Ashen> as far as the fatal error(4) i have no idea ._.;
#2778 [20:48] <|Kiikun|> its a fairly large area..
#2779 [20:48] <Ashen> sounds like a good movie title..
#2780 [20:48] <Ashen> FATAL ERROR (4)
#2781 [20:48] <theAEmix> wow. totally spaced about that. I'm too used to before they put that in.
#2782 [20:49] <Ashen> Is okay mix. <3 we forgive you
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#2784 [20:49] <|Kiikun|> mib_c0nsxx: update/reinstall java from www.java.com
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#2787 [20:55] * Ashen sobs cause Thrae left.
#2787 [20:55] * almostroot will mute Ashen's sobbing.
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#2788 [20:56] <theAEmix> ashen that was the problem >.< i'm ashamed
#2789 [20:56] <Ashen> ... D:
#2790 [20:56] <Ashen> Glad I could help? xD
#2791 [20:56] <theAEmix> haha. yeah. thanks
#2792 [20:56] <Ashen> Now if only Thrae or Kii would get back to me >.>
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#2794 [21:01] * Ashen om nom nom's on Thrae
#2794 [21:02] <almostroot> Ashen: They are obviously away. What is your issue so you stop filling the channel with inane chatter?
#2795 [21:04] <Ashen> D: is not like anyone else has issues. :C they already know my problem. want me to repeat it and what they've already had me do for you?
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#2797 [21:10] <almostroot> Ashen: Try downloading and installing this: Intel® Graphics Driver for Windows XP* (exe)
#2798 [21:10] <almostroot> Ashen: Erm, wrong thing to copy. Sorry. http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19412&lang=eng
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#2800 [21:12] <Ashen> i'm guessing thats the newest one, again? :c
#2801 [21:13] <almostroot> Ashen: No real idea what they linked you before. But looking at the integrated video card for your motherboard, that is the correct driver installer.
#2802 [21:14] <Ashen> i think thrae made me one, or something.
#2803 [21:15] <TheNytangel> http://imgur.com/gallery/kGpId
#2804 [21:15] <TheNytangel> Laughed my butt off
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#2806 [21:15] <almostroot> Ashen: Don't see where Thrae linked a driver to you, but according to your dxdiag, those are the right ones.
#2807 [21:17] <Ashen> mmk~
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#2809 [21:19] <Ashen> um um. i ran the driver, and it says the computer currently contains driver versions newer than the versions you are about to install.
#2810 [21:20] <Ashen> it's got Intel G41 Chipset (8.15.10.2413)
#2811 [21:20] <Ashen> on the screen here.
#2812 [21:21] <almostroot> Ashen: Since I read about a driver being manually installed, that worries me greatly. I think you should unisntall the current driver completely and perform a clean install.
#2813 [21:21] <almostroot> Ashen: Open Control Panel -> Device Manager -> Locate your graphic card in the list. Right click, open properties, find the Uninstall Driver button. Uninstall the driver, reboot, install the new, downloaded one, reboot again when prompted.
#2814 [21:22] <Ashen> "graphic card" being the chipset?
#2815 [21:23] <almostroot> Ashen: Not sure what it would be listed as, but should be under Video Devices or something similar.
#2816 [21:23] <Ashen> Display Adapters?
#2817 [21:23] <almostroot> Ashen: Yeah, that would be the one.
#2818 [21:23] <Ashen> so uninstall. then install the one you linked me?
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#2820 [21:24] <TheNytangel> Why are rabbits so quiet when they "make love?"
#2821 [21:24] <TheNytangel> Because they have cotton balls
#2822 [21:24] * Ashen slaps Nyta's hand.
#2822 [21:24] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2823 [21:25] <daviswalker> Hey, so I haven't played mine craft for awhile, and I wanted to start playing again tonight I'm on Mac osx 10.7.1 and when I click my mine craft icon (has always been there and always worked) it just bounces up and down (starting up) for about 2 mins then stops, no error or anything pops up
#2824 [21:26] <almostroot> daviswalker: Have you installed Java since you upgraded to Lion?
#2825 [21:26] <daviswalker> I've used java before but I don't think i've physically gone and redownloaded it, let me try that
#2826 [21:27] <daviswalker> Apple supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date version of Java for your Mac.
#2827 [21:27] <almostroot> daviswalker: http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1421
#2828 [21:27] <daviswalker> I just updated a bit ago so it should be there but ill try your link
#2829 [21:28] <almostroot> daviswalker: Java is not included by default in Lion. You have to install it. It's a feature, not a bug.
#2830 [21:28] <almostroot> -_-
#2831 [21:28] <daviswalker> Ah, sounds like a odd "feature"
#2832 [21:29] <daviswalker> okay so it says install was successful however nothing different is happening when i click it
#2833 [21:31] <daviswalker> I will say that when i first opened it today it opened however it said my log in information was incorrect so i tried on the website and it worked fine, so i thought maybe re downloading it from the website would fix it. I do remember having to do some command in terminal to get it working the first time
#2834 [21:31] <daviswalker> do i have to do that again/
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#2836 [21:32] <Ph0ENIX9119> classy dennik
#2837 [21:32] <ph0enix> :D
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#2839 [21:33] <JohnEBH> !check MPG.JHServers.net
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#2841 [21:33] <Ph0ENIX9119> hey, the ph0enix's have a server question
#2842 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Free portal 2 dlc, out on Oct 4th
#2843 [21:33] * GreyVulpine dances
#2843 [21:33] <ph0enix> can anyone help me with a ram/minecraft server question
#2844 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Ask
#2845 [21:33] <Ashen> So.. didn't get MC to work again, but everything aside from that looks like normal again.
#2846 [21:34] <Ph0ENIX9119> hes a show typer
#2847 [21:34] <Ph0ENIX9119> :-(
#2848 [21:34] <Ph0ENIX9119> *slow
#2849 [21:34] <ph0enix> okay so i upgraded ram today on my server computer, all works fine now, and it currently is up to 2 gigs. i reinstalled java and am running bukkit, but it gives me an error when i go to run the server
#2850 [21:35] <Ph0ENIX9119> what does the error say?
#2851 [21:35] <JohnEBH> !check MPG.JHServers.net
#2852 [21:35] <ph0enix> error occured during initialization of VM, could not reserve enough space for object heap, could not create the java virtual machine, press any key to continue . . .
#2853 [21:35] * Ashen sighs.
#2853 [21:36] <Ashen> Worst case I guess I can timewarp my computer back a week >.>
#2854 [21:36] <Ph0ENIX9119> any idea GreyVulpine?
#2855 [21:36] <Ph0ENIX9119> also, hello again :-)
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#2857 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM are you reserving for the java process? Also, what OS is this being hosted on?
#2858 [21:37] <ph0enix> windows xp
#2859 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> 32 bit OS then
#2860 [21:37] <daviswalker> ashen did you update to lion
#2861 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> That would be why.
#2862 [21:38] <ph0enix> yes. and...
#2863 [21:38] <daviswalker> and it no longer works for you?
#2864 [21:38] <ph0enix> oh?
#2865 [21:38] <Ashen> ..lion?
#2866 [21:38] <ph0enix> in the runtime parameters is has -Xmx2048
#2867 [21:38] <Ph0ENIX9119> mc ant use mre than 1 gb on x86?
#2868 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Windows XP 32 bit, has an upper limit of 1.4-1.6/7 gigs of RAM that java can allocate
#2869 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> It can't address any more than that.
#2870 [21:38] <daviswalker> Ah nvm theirs is time machine not time warp ignore me
#2871 [21:38] <Ashen> D:
#2872 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to install a 64 bit OS in order to get more than that, RAM-wise, for java
#2873 [21:39] <Ph0ENIX9119> ahh
#2874 [21:39] <ph0enix> so what is the max i can put on it
#2875 [21:39] <ph0enix> -Xmx????
#2876 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Safely, 1.4 iggs
#2877 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> er, 1400M to about 1700M
#2878 [21:39] <Ph0ENIX9119> well thats still a 400mb boost
#2879 [21:40] <Ashen> i meant i would do a system restore, back like a week ~.~
#2880 [21:40] <Ashen> cause last week, it was working
#2881 [21:40] <ph0enix> wait, do i NEED the M in the runtime parameters?
#2882 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Any more than that, and you'll run into your error there
#2883 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes you do
#2884 [21:40] <ph0enix> okay hold
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#2886 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> 1400 = 1400 bytes. 1400 = 1.4 gigs
#2887 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> er, 1400M = 1.4 gigs
#2888 [21:41] <Ashen> hey almostroot
#2889 [21:41] <Ph0ENIX9119> whats the max with x64?
#2890 [21:41] <ph0enix> yeah i didnt realize that hahaha X)
#2891 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> There is virtually no limit (that you need to be concerned with right now)
#2892 [21:41] <Ph0ENIX9119> so 12gb wouldnt be a problem?
#2893 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> RIght
#2894 [21:41] <Ph0ENIX9119> rad
#2895 [21:42] <Ph0ENIX9119> lol i need to get my rack server back up
#2896 [21:42] <ph0enix> so in my server starting .txt, do i need to change those numbers to 1400 as well?
#2897 [21:42] <Ph0ENIX9119> yes
#2898 [21:43] <ph0enix> thanks a lot sir
#2899 [21:44] <Ashen> i think that's just what i'll do -_-
#2900 [21:46] <Ashen> k. i'm restoring my system back to the day before i noticed it was all goofy. wish me luck~
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#2902 [21:47] * Ashen wants luck to be wished. :c
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#2903 [21:48] <mib_daw6nl> # # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000084c1, pid=7292, tid=3992 # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (11.0-b16 mixed mode windows-x86) # Problematic frame: # C 0x000084c1 # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: # http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugre
#2904 [21:48] <mib_daw6nl> # # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000084c1, pid=7292, tid=3992 # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (11.0-b16 mixed mode windows-x86) # Problematic frame: # C 0x000084c1 # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: # http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugre
#2905 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Don't spam
#2906 [21:49] <mib_daw6nl> sry
#2907 [21:49] <mib_daw6nl> what does it mean
#2908 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#2909 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> That way, we can see the entire error
#2910 [21:50] <mib_daw6nl> http://pastebin.com/dzXsGsWg
#2911 [21:50] <mib_daw6nl> when?
#2912 [21:50] <TheNytangel> Sometime
#2913 [21:50] <TheNytangel> In october probably :)
#2914 [21:51] <mib_daw6nl> how could i update my comp
#2915 [21:52] <mib_daw6nl> to make it work
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#2917 [21:53] <mib_daw6nl> ?
#2918 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag?
#2919 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_daw6nl win/dxdiag
#2920 [21:53] <VoxelHead> mib_daw6nl: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2921 [21:53] <VoxelHead> mib_daw6nl: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2922 [21:54] <mib_daw6nl> http://pastebin.com/dzXsGsWg
#2923 [21:54] <mib_daw6nl> but can i fix my comp
#2924 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> How about giving us the dxdiag?
#2925 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_daw6nl win/dxdiag
#2926 [21:54] <VoxelHead> mib_daw6nl: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2927 [21:54] <VoxelHead> mib_daw6nl: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2928 [21:55] <mib_daw6nl> http://pastebin.com/dzXsGsWg
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#2930 [21:56] <Alpha> hello
#2931 [21:57] <Alpha> Anybody here?
#2932 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2933 [21:57] <Alpha> xD
#2934 [21:57] <Alpha> very funny
#2935 [21:57] <Alpha> ok
#2936 [21:57] <Alpha> i need help
#2937 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2938 [21:57] <Alpha> You know the free minecraft?
#2939 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> Classic?
#2940 [21:58] <TheNytangel> Demo?
#2941 [21:58] <Alpha> yep
#2942 [21:58] <Felix> FUCKN REDTONE EVERYWHERE
#2943 [21:58] * AuBot kicked Felix from #minecrafthelp (Reason: elix :Please keep it civil.)
#2944 [21:58] <Alpha> im having trouble playing multiplayer
#2945 [21:58] <Alpha> i select australia(where i am)
#2946 [21:59] <Alpha> but it isnt responding
#2947 [21:59] <TheNytangel> And that's where my internet is hosted from..
#2948 [21:59] <Alpha> ?
#2949 [21:59] <TheNytangel> I have a horrible download/upload speed..
#2950 [22:00] <Valerie> yeah redstone is everywhere
#2951 [22:00] <Alpha> oh god
#2952 [22:00] <Alpha> this place is no help
#2953 [22:00] <Alpha> :(
#2954 [22:00] <Valerie> I need to mine more redstone tho
#2955 [22:00] <Valerie> my TNT cannon turned into a giant crater when i tested it
#2956 [22:00] <Alpha> whats this about redstone?
#2957 [22:01] <Alpha> can i swear on this page?
#2958 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Would rather you didn't
#2959 [22:01] <Alpha> ok
#2960 [22:01] <Alpha> lol
#2961 [22:01] <Alpha> good ur back
#2962 [22:01] <Alpha> so can u answer my question?
#2963 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Don't exactly know what the problem is
#2964 [22:02] <Alpha> Great.
#2965 [22:02] <Alpha> My life is ruined
#2966 [22:02] <Alpha> :D
#2967 [22:02] <TheNytangel> You never asked a question..
#2968 [22:02] <Alpha> :(
#2969 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean you select "australia"?
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#2972 [22:02] <Alpha> australian server
#2973 [22:02] <Strelkovaya> So I just went on the minecraft site and it says I haven't purchased it yet?
#2974 [22:02] <TheNytangel> And your life isn't ruined because you can't play minecraft classic multiplayer, I'm sure of that.. >.>
#2975 [22:03] <Alpha> why?
#2976 [22:03] <Strelkovaya> I bought it back when it was about $10 or $15
#2977 [22:03] <Alpha> ok fine
#2978 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Strelkovaya - Try logging in with an account that you paid under
#2979 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Alpha - Try other servers?
#2980 [22:03] <Alpha> i have
#2981 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to go to an australian server because you're in australia
#2982 [22:04] <Strelkovaya> GreyVulpine, I only have one account
#2983 [22:04] <Alpha> ive tried others but its not responding.Ive got the java too(uptaded)
#2984 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Alpha - And what error do you get?
#2985 [22:04] <Alpha> lemme check
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#2988 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Strelkovaya - Either you're confused and actually bought the acccount under a different username, or the purchase was reversed by you or your bank
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#2990 [22:05] <StormyJet1> help
#2991 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> We've seen many an instance where people suddenly remember that they bought it under a different name
#2992 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Strelkovaya - Try doing a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename under all the email addresses you normally use
#2993 [22:06] <StormyJet1> whenevr i launch minecraft, this happens http://pastebin.com/zrB0qbJX
#2994 [22:06] <Strelkovaya> GreyVulpine, I just went through all my email addresses of the past 6 years
#2995 [22:06] <Strelkovaya> pulled up one that worked and was registered
#2996 [22:06] <Strelkovaya> said I hadn't bought it
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#2998 [22:06] <Strelkovaya> I haven't been on the site in a long time
#2999 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> StormyJet1 - Pastebin /home/stormyjet/hs_err_pid9324.log please
#3000 [22:07] <Alpha> ''This plug-in is unresponsive: Java
#3001 [22:07] <Strelkovaya> I retrieved the name, reset the password
#3002 [22:07] <Alpha> thats what error it gets
#3003 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Alpha - Completely uninstall and reinstall java
#3004 [22:07] <Alpha> ok
#3005 [22:07] <StormyJet1> here you go GreyVulpine http://pastebin.com/Gpw3K9BB
#3006 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Strelkovaya - If you still have the receipt from when you purchased it, you can get a clearer answer if you submit a ticket using minecraft.net/support
#3007 [22:08] <StormyJet1> ps: 32bit system, if that may be causing problems
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#3009 [22:08] <Strelkovaya> GreyVulpine, I doubt I do, this was a really long time ago that I bought it
#3010 [22:08] <Strelkovaya> almost 2 years?
#3011 [22:08] <Strelkovaya> Can't recall
#3012 [22:09] <Strelkovaya> I've got hte forums up and searching for answers now
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#3014 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> StormyJet1 - Hmm, it's either video drivers, or perhaps lwjgl.
#3015 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> StormyJet1 - Do you know how to manually update lwjgl for minecraft?
#3016 [22:09] <StormyJet1> no
#3017 [22:09] <TeamExecution> Someone please help!!!
#3018 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> StormyJet1 - http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#3019 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> TeamExecution - Omg omg, with what???!?!?!!!1111
#3020 [22:10] <TeamExecution> Minecraft error
#3021 [22:10] <TeamExecution> it wont run
#3022 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Strelkovaya - We can't do anything about account issues here, for that, you'll need to contact mojang itself, using the support system at minecraft.net/support
#3023 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> TeamExecution - Could you be any more specific?
#3024 [22:10] <TeamExecution> its not account related
#3025 [22:10] <TeamExecution> yes
#3026 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> TeamExecution - Please do
#3027 [22:11] <Strelkovaya> thanks
#3028 [22:11] <Alpha> i think its working'
#3029 [22:11] <Alpha> but im still waiting
#3030 [22:12] <TeamExecution> I have been playing minecraft since it was in 1.6.6 and now im having problems that say Bad video card drivers! or Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#3031 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> TeamExecution - You'll need to update your video drivers then
#3032 [22:12] <TeamExecution> They are
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#3034 [22:12] <TeamExecution> Thats the problem
#3035 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> TeamExecution - How do you know?
#3036 [22:13] <TeamExecution> ive checked
#3037 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Using..
#3038 [22:13] <TeamExecution> Ive used many softwares
#3039 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> You only need to check one. The right one
#3040 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> How do you know you have the latest?
#3041 [22:13] <TeamExecution> ive deleted and i used the run command devmgmt.msc
#3042 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> And what video card do you have?
#3043 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> What drivers did you download?
#3044 [22:14] <TeamExecution> Its saying i dont have a video card but ive been playing for so long without errors
#3045 [22:14] <TeamExecution> nothing has changed
#3046 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> With 1.8, the requirements were changed, graphics were slightly improved
#3047 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> If you were running a standard vga driver, you weren't using the full power of your graphics card
#3048 [22:15] <TeamExecution> yea but thats wat i dont understand i still played 1.8 before on a server without lag
#3049 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Hence, why minecraft is saying, you need to update your drivers
#3050 [22:16] <TeamExecution> Its not showing anything about my video card drivers
#3051 [22:16] <TeamExecution> like i dont even have a graphic card
#3052 [22:16] <TeamExecution> which i obviously do
#3053 [22:16] <Alpha> ok fingers crossed >_<
#3054 [22:16] <StormyJet1> GreyVulpine, did what the tut said, blackscreened me
#3055 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> TeamExecution - What operating system are you on?
#3056 [22:17] <TeamExecution> What do you mean?
#3057 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> StormyJet1 - Did you replace both the files in .minecraft/bin and .minecraft/bin/natives?
#3058 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> TeamExecution - What operating system are you on?
#3059 [22:17] <StormyJet1> yes, and here is what it does http://pastebin.com/5LkbM9bi
#3060 [22:17] <TeamExecution> Like motherboard?
#3061 [22:17] <StormyJet1> no, like windows or ubuntu
#3062 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Something went wrong with the replacement StormyJet1. Not all the lwjgl files were updated
#3063 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> TeamExecution - Mac? Windows? Linux?
#3064 [22:18] <TeamExecution> Windows XP SP3
#3065 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> It's a simple question
#3066 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> TeamExecution - Please give us a dxdiag
#3067 [22:18] <Alpha> NOOOO
#3068 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> ??> TeamExecution win/dxdiag
#3069 [22:18] <VoxelHead> TeamExecution: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3070 [22:18] <VoxelHead> TeamExecution: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3071 [22:18] <TeamExecution> im at DirectX
#3072 [22:18] <Alpha> it didnt (BLEEPING) work!
#3073 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Follow VoxelHead's instructions
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#3075 [22:19] <Alpha> (BLEEP) this!
#3076 [22:19] <TeamExecution> 1st page?
#3077 [22:19] <skullboy79> No idea how this works guys, sorry, just looking at my options...
#3078 [22:19] <Alpha> im (BLEEPING) outta here
#3079 [22:19] <lansiir> bai
#3080 [22:19] <TeamExecution> uhm cant
#3081 [22:19] <TeamExecution> nvm
#3082 [22:19] <skullboy79> Trying to get MC working on my Toshiba Satellite Pro - keep getting the video card error even after updating through Toshiba
#3083 [22:20] <skullboy79> any solutions/suggestions (besides getting a new computer, I know)
#3084 [22:20] <StormyJet1> opengl?
#3085 [22:20] <Alpha> FUCK YOU!!!!YOUR ALL SHITHEADS.YOU SONOFABITCHES!!!GET A FUCKING LIFE!I WANT FUCKING MINECRAFT AND NOBODY GIVES A FUCK.GOOD BYE MOTHERFUCKING SHITHEADS
#3086 [22:20] * AuBot kicked Alpha from #minecrafthelp (Reason: lpha :Please keep it civil.)
#3087 [22:20] * oldtopman saw that coming
#3087 [22:21] <skullboy79> ooooook
#3088 [22:21] <TeamExecution> http://pastebin.com/kuEB2ZMx Ths?
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#3090 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Oi, yes.
#3091 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> One moment
#3092 [22:22] <TeamExecution> okay
#3093 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> TeamExecution - Your video drivers are located at: http://support.gateway.com/us/en/emac/product/default.aspx?modelId=1461
#3094 [22:22] <TeamExecution> okay
#3095 [22:23] <skullboy79> thanks Grey, will look at that
#3096 [22:23] <TeamExecution> Should that work?
#3097 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> skullboy79 - That wasn't for you
#3098 [22:23] <StormyJet1> okay greyvulpine, did that and then this happens... http://pastebin.com/2AcfBqdQ
#3099 [22:23] * StormyJet1 just wants to play minecraft
#3099 [22:24] <StormyJet1> could it be that its 64bit java and this is a 32bit machine greyvulpine ?
#3100 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> StormyJet1 - Almost betting it's the video card drivers that are causing the problem
#3101 [22:24] <skullboy79> oy, k, yeah
#3102 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> skullboy79 - Give me a dxdiag
#3103 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> ??> skullboy79 win/dxdiag
#3104 [22:24] <VoxelHead> skullboy79: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3105 [22:24] <VoxelHead> skullboy79: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3106 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> StormyJet1 - Any way you can check to see if you're running the latest drivers?
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#3108 [22:25] <TeamExecution> GreyVulpine Thank you! Hope Thsi Works! :)
#3109 [22:25] <StormyJet1> Its all a dell system, i have a ati card (not being used until i get a new cable) in there
#3110 [22:25] <TeamExecution> This*
#3111 [22:25] <ihhbob> heloo?
#3112 [22:25] <skullboy79> doing ti now, thanx
#3113 [22:25] <ihhbob> i need help
#3114 [22:26] <StormyJet1> hello ihhbob
#3115 [22:26] <ihhbob> hello
#3116 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> ihhbob - With?
#3117 [22:26] <StormyJet1> so should i take the video card out?
#3118 [22:26] <ihhbob> installing the game
#3119 [22:26] <StormyJet1> whats wrong.....
#3120 [22:27] <ihhbob> well i just bought the game today and it said i should wait an hour and i did but nothing happend
#3121 [22:27] <skullboy79> voxelhead I got this result
#3122 [22:27] <skullboy79> http://pastebin.com/hS0RB05z
#3123 [22:27] <TheNytangel> ihhbob, wait two days at the ma
#3124 [22:27] <TheNytangel> max*
#3125 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Oi..
#3126 [22:28] <TheNytangel> What? :P
#3127 [22:28] <TheNytangel> Oh
#3128 [22:28] <TheNytangel> Oi..
#3129 [22:29] <skullboy79> i bought it on the 24th and updated video card today - still won't work
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#3131 [22:29] <ihhbob> ok but i bought the game befor and worked but this time it it was alot longer
#3132 [22:30] <Fribox> So how long do these confirmation emails take to get from buying the game
#3133 [22:31] <skullboy79> actually, wait, no my confirmation took two full days to get through
#3134 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Usually instant, but has been known to take several hours
#3135 [22:31] <ihhbob> what email
#3136 [22:31] <StormyJet1> brb, imma take out the ati card
#3137 [22:32] <Fribox> Well how long would you wait before attempting to re-purchase the game? Nothing has shown up in my email or in my bank account.
#3138 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> skullboy79 - Try these drivers, if these don't work, we'll do it the long way: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18774&ProdId=2800&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers
#3139 [22:33] <skullboy79> k, let me check it out and brb
#3140 [22:33] <skullboy79> thank you
#3141 [22:34] <skullboy79> ah, the media accelerator...yeah, this might work then as the other was just a video driver update from 2007
#3142 [22:34] <Belxjander> Ive been trying to play Minecraft in-browser for the old version, and also ran the new version one-time and only managed to stare at my feet the entire time...
#3143 [22:34] <skullboy79> installing now
#3144 [22:35] <Belxjander> is there any reference for "java.lang.IllegalStateException: Only one LWJGL context may be instantiated at any one time"
#3145 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Belxjander - Update your video drivers
#3146 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Most likely you're using some out of date drivers for your *nix distro
#3147 [22:36] <Fribox> I wish this email would come already, makes me think nothing went through.
#3148 [22:36] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: did that and still getting the same issue (using OpenSource ATI drivers from freedesktop.org repository)
#3149 [22:37] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: well I don't get the binary drivers as any kind of option
#3150 [22:37] <Belxjander> Kernel 3.1rc5 is somewhat too new for the Radeon drivers
#3151 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Belxjander - Yeah, that error is generally video card drivers.
#3152 [22:37] * StormyJet [StormyJet@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3153 [22:37] <StormyJet> how do i switch default java?
#3154 [22:38] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: any other work arounds since the video drivers were compiled within the last two weeks
#3155 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> StormyJet - What OS is this again/
#3156 [22:38] <StormyJet> ubuntu
#3157 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Belxjander - What java distro are you on?
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#3159 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> StormyJet- sudo update-alternatives --config java
#3160 [22:38] <Fribox> for ubuntu you should probably just use the package manager
#3161 [22:39] <Fribox> unless its an older version
#3162 [22:39] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: Java Binary 6 update 26
#3163 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Belxjander - I'm specifically just checking you're running sun java, instead of openjdk
#3164 [22:40] <skullboy79> goddamit to fark..."the driver being installed is not validated for this computer. please obtain the appropriate driver from the computer's manufacturer" - that's what I did and got an update for the video driver from toshiba
#3165 [22:40] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: that is correct, Sun(Oracle) Java binary is the installed version here
#3166 [22:40] <skullboy79> earlier today and it still doesn't work
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#3168 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> skullboy79 - Yeah, toshiba's a pain in the ass, and digitally signs all their drivers, so you can only get drivers from them
#3169 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> The long way it is..
#3170 [22:40] <skullboy79> smexcellent...k, ready
#3171 [22:41] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: I've worked with Toshiba laptops and that is actually a windows option you can disable to force updated drivers
#3172 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> I usually just walk them though this:
#3173 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18775&ProdId=2800&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers
#3174 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Download the .zip from intel's site, unzip it to a place you can get to.
#3175 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> After that, go to the device manager in windows, you'll want to expand the display adapters heading in device manager, right click on it, choose Update drivers
#3176 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> There should be an option for "let me select from a list". choose that, then "have disk" and "browse" to the unzipped folder you created for the drivers you downloaded
#3177 [22:42] <Belxjander> so other than updating my video drivers or changing to radeonhd instead of ati open source repository drivers (13 days from last build and installation for current drivers) is there anything else I can try?
#3178 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> You'll point device manager's wizard, to the graphics folder, inside the unzipped folder, there'll be an .inf file there. That'll manually force windows to accept intel's drivers
#3179 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Belxjander - I'm sorry, there really isn't.
#3180 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Don't know if updating lwjgl files from minecraft will do anything..
#3181 [22:44] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: so irrespective of the fact that the drivers are less than two weeks old it is still "update the drivers" as the only cure?
#3182 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> I've only ever seen getting the right video drivers, the only solution for that specific error.
#3183 [22:45] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: that means I can *never* play this game as it will never run other than that first time which seems to have been a lucky chance
#3184 [22:45] <StormyJet> still doesnt run... stormy angreh
#3185 [22:45] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: well I *am* using the only video drivers available
#3186 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Try a different *nix distro? One that has proper ATI support (which ATI driver support on *nix has been iffy anyways)
#3187 [22:46] <skullboy79> um greyvulpine, where is the device manager please/
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#3189 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> skullboy79 - Start -> control panel -> system -> hardware tab -> device manager
#3190 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> I blame ATI's crappy fglrx drivers for many issues on *nix/ATI
#3191 [22:48] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: well I don't have the binary blob installed, Ive got an open source installed kernel and driver setup here and it is exclusively minecraft showing the only issue with drivers of any kind
#3192 [22:50] <skullboy79> greyvulpine doing it right now
#3193 [22:50] <StormyJet> if anyone wants to teamviewer into my pc, i would pm you the info
#3194 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Sorry Belxjander, I really don't have anything else for you.
#3195 [22:51] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: well I will see if anything is different inside a VM since I have a Windows VM I am installing now
#3196 [22:53] <skullboy79> greyvulpine, i think it worked, thank you, you're pretty and i love you
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#3198 [22:53] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#3198 [22:53] <TeamExecution> GreyV
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#3200 [22:53] <skullboy79> i need to restart to know for sure, but will try to log on again and let you know
#3201 [22:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#3202 [22:53] <TeamExecution> Can i get that link ahain
#3203 [22:53] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: I'll see what I can do to track down the error further if there is any kind of options
#3204 [22:53] <TeamExecution> again
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#3206 [22:54] <TeamExecution> its still not working
#3207 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Belxjander - If you can give us any more information, it would be greatly appreciated, and put to good use around here.
#3208 [22:54] <TeamExecution> same thing still
#3209 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> TeamExecution - Sorry, what link?
#3210 [22:54] <TeamExecution> The link for emachines drivers
#3211 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> http://support.gateway.com/us/en/emac/product/default.aspx?modelId=1461
#3212 [22:54] <TeamExecution> thank uuuu
#3213 [22:54] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: I happen to be living with an Active player and we managed to try an alternate LWJGL archive which skipped that error and showed some other error instead
#3214 [22:55] * GreyVulpine bets it's fglrx
#3214 [22:55] <TeamExecution> thanks GreyV
#3215 [22:56] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: I don't have fglrx installed to begin with
#3216 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Oh
#3217 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Would love to see that other error if you have it handy
#3218 [22:56] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: so betting on something that was never there to begin with is kinda baka
#3219 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, just have had way too many people come around here with *nix/ati/fglrx.. knee-jerk reaction
#3220 [22:57] <StormyJet> if anyone could help me, i could give you teamviewer info
#3221 [22:57] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: well I did say *freedesktop*repository*source* and you still thought I was using the fglrx *binary* drivers? the fglrx is flat out unusable on 3.x series Linux kernels
#3222 [22:58] <Belxjander> won't install as it won7t recognise newer than 2.6.x series for kernel module building
#3223 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> You said you used a different lwjgl binary, did you download the latest from lwjgl.org?
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#3225 [23:00] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: going to try that again now
#3226 [23:00] <kermit> Bought the game but can't access. It recognized my username and password. Any advice?
#3227 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> kermit - What error do you get?
#3228 [23:00] <kermit> No errors
#3229 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Then why can't you access minecraft?
#3230 [23:01] <kermit> that's what i want to know
#3231 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> What exactly is minecraft doing, that you know it isn't working?
#3232 [23:02] <kermit> booted up computer...running FireFox, connected to Minecraft.net, used the user name and password
#3233 [23:03] <kermit> it showed i'm logged in but can't play...kept prompting to buy
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#3237 [23:07] <Ashen> I wish I could say it worked.. but no. :(
#3238 [23:07] <Ashen> Dear Windows. What's the point of having system restore points, if you can't restore the system to that point? Sincerely me.
#3239 [23:10] <Ashen> And I know minecraft is about as awesome as awesome can be.. but I don't think it would do to format my computer just for it. :(
#3240 [23:10] <serene_chaos> I run minecraft under linux and quite enjoy it.
#3241 [23:10] <Ashen> I used to be able to play it, but then one day it just decided. Nope. Not gonna let you play me anymore.
#3242 [23:12] <Ashen> I dont wanna point fingers but, it happened after one of notch's new updates :(
#3243 [23:13] <Ashen> i think..
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#3247 [23:22] <username> Hello
#3248 [23:22] <Silver_77> Hello
#3249 [23:23] <trevor_u> hey, i just bought minecraft and tried running it from the .exe however after i logged in and everything hs_err_pid2412 popped up and says there was an error. can anyone help?
#3250 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> trevor_u - Please copy the contents of the hs_err_pid file, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
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#3252 [23:25] <trevor_u> i pasted it
#3253 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> And the address to that page?
#3254 [23:25] <trevor_u> it came up on notepad
#3255 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> Right, the hs_err_pid file can be opened up in notepad...
#3256 [23:27] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: well I have just managed to get into Minecraft the same way as the only time I managed to stare at my feet... using Wine to run the Windows version on top of Linux
#3257 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Hah, guess that's one way of doing it..
#3258 [23:28] <trevor_u> :) thx btw
#3259 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> trevor_u - I'm still waiting on that pastebin link, so that I may go to it and read the error for myself..
#3260 [23:29] <trevor_u> i pasted it 3 mins ago, is there a delay after pasting it?
#3261 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> No, when you paste it, you need to go up to your browser's address bar, copy the http:// address there, and paste it here, so that I know what your pastebin is
#3262 [23:30] <trevor_u> http://pastebin.com/Lbn03KQt
#3263 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> trevor_u - Do you know what video card you have?
#3264 [23:31] <Belxjander> GreyVulpine: it ate the keyboard and mouse and refuses to let me look at anything but my own feet
#3265 [23:31] <trevor_u> i ave played minecraft before, but gimme a sec i'll search for that
#3266 [23:31] <Belxjander> the input handling is utterly useless... I had to switch to console and kill ALL the wine processes
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#3268 [23:32] <StormyJet> help?
#3269 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Eep?
#3270 [23:33] <StormyJet> still not working
#3271 [23:33] <StormyJet> crashes directly after logging in
#3272 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> StormyJet - Did you remove all your old ati drivers, and update to the latest drivers of whatever video card you're currently using?
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#3274 [23:34] <StormyJet> I removed my videcard because it is not being used, using vanilla currently
#3275 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> trevor_u - If it's worked before, did you use any mods or custom HD texture packs?
#3276 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> StormyJet - Vanilla... what?
#3277 [23:34] <StormyJet> normal
#3278 [23:34] <StormyJet> pre installed
#3279 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> What video card are you currently using to output a video signal from your computer?
#3280 [23:34] <StormyJet> the one preinstalled
#3281 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any idea what that may be?
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#3283 [23:35] <trevor_u> nope. the comp crashed, and we had it repaired. now it's not working. i played the alpha version tho, long time ago
#3284 [23:36] <StormyJet> no idea what it would be
#3285 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> StormyJet - lspci at the terminal for me?
#3286 [23:37] <StormyJet> doing it
#3287 [23:37] <StormyJet> done. http://pastebin.com/JGADRpec
#3288 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> You're running a Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
#3289 [23:38] <JohnEBH> !check MPG.JHServers.net
#3290 [23:38] <JohnEBH> T-T
#3291 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> As for updating intel drivers on ubuntu, google's probably your best bet on that.
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#3293 [23:41] <trevor_u> how do i find out my video card?
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#3295 [23:42] <Belxjander> trevor_u: Linux or Windows?
#3296 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> trevor_u - Give us a dxdiag?
#3297 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> ??> trevor_u win/dxdiag
#3298 [23:42] <VoxelHead> trevor_u: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3299 [23:42] <VoxelHead> trevor_u: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3300 [23:42] <trevor_u> windows vista
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#3303 [23:45] <trevor_u> http://pastebin.com/zngi8bYa
#3304 [23:45] <trevor_u> btw very clear instruction, i'm extremely impressed
#3305 [23:45] <stormyjet> greyvulpine , minecraft is working fine in other linux distros (linux mint currently is working), so its a ubuntu problem
#3306 [23:46] <stormyjet> should i reinstall ubuntu?
#3307 [23:46] <Belxjander> stormyjet: which edition of ubuntu?
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#3309 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> trevor_u - Unfortunately, SiS graphics aren't exactly top of the line...
#3310 [23:46] <stormyjet> srry bout that, and its ubuntu 11.04 i think
#3311 [23:47] <trevor_u> so am i unable to run it
#3312 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> One moment..
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#3318 [23:52] <pachuco> help!! i payed for the dam game. it said it would takeabout anhour to download and its been about 6 hours and nothing. Is this a scam or what?
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#3320 [23:53] <Belxjander> pachuco: no scam but what is between you and the servers and what speeds are you getting?
#3321 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> trevor_u - Looks like there aren't any updated video drivers for you, you may get lucky by completely uninstalling and reinstalling java.
#3322 [23:54] <pachuco> i have high speed comcast internet and a macbook pro so that's not the problem
#3323 [23:54] <trevor_u> k, i'll try that.
#3324 [23:54] <trevor_u> cheers
#3325 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> trevor_u - If that doesn't work, you may need to look into getting a new computer, yours is fairly old
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#3327 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> pachuco - Minecraft username?
#3328 [23:55] <pachuco> iAlexApple
#3329 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> !paid iAlexApple
#3330 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't look like the account has been marked as premium yet. Have you checked with your credit card/bank and made sure there's a record of payment going to Mojang AB?
#3331 [23:56] <pachuco> it said it went through and said it would download in the next hour.
#3332 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> No, it said it may take up to an hour for the payment to be processed. I would still call up your credit card/bank and confirm payment has been made
#3333 [23:57] <pachuco> ok thank you
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