#MinecraftHelp > 2011-10-05
#1 [00:00] <Guest96532> i'm watching the Yogscast playthrough of Aether, and it's like, "WTF?" every few minutes
#2 [00:00] <Guest96532> you know how those sandy rocks fall down? they have a rock that falls up LOL!!
#3 [00:01] <Guest96532> they have animal raising (something Notch has been way behind on for a year) and all kinds of stuff
#4 [00:01] <Thrae> Guest24446: Notch has already started adding some of the features found in mods like Aether, such as Strongholds.
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#6 [00:03] <Guest96532> whats a stronghold ?
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#8 [00:03] <mib_kumb6p> hello?
#9 [00:03] <Guest96532> i haven't played aether, i'm just watching videos about it, trying to decide if it's worth mucking up my minecraft install and having the game crash even more often than it already does
#10 [00:04] <Guest96532> and then having to reinstall it again in another month or two when the next minecraft update breaks absolutely everything
#11 [00:04] <Thrae> Guest96532: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Stronghold
#12 [00:04] <Thrae> Guest96532: Eventually these Strongholds will have stronger enemies and bosses, or so they tweet
#13 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Well, since modding isn't a part of minecraft yet, people who do modding, do so at their own risk/peril
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#15 [00:05] <Thrae> Most of the fault mods break is due to an outdated ModLoader use, which provides a rather hacky way of loading in mods that likes to break
#16 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> If you mod, you need to be absolutely on top of every mod you decide to download and install, and make absolutely sure the mod's creator keeps on top of every update
#17 [00:06] <Thrae> There are updated models, like Spout, which work much better and update much faster
#18 [00:06] <Ryladine> Oh, Hello Grey.
#19 [00:06] * GreyVulpine waves
#19 [00:09] <Guest96532> you know what minecarft needs
#20 [00:10] <Guest96532> a mode inbetween creative and survivor that's basically just for battling
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#22 [00:10] <gamakichi> Hello
#23 [00:10] <Guest96532> battle mode. it just gives you all the armor and food and crap and says, "go kill some dragons and crap"
#24 [00:10] <gamakichi> Can anyone help?
#25 [00:10] <Guest96532> with what?
#26 [00:11] <gamakichi> When I run Minecraft, after about two minutes it says " Out of memory"
#27 [00:11] <gamakichi> and it says that i should reload
#28 [00:11] <gartral> so what are the chanches of a ravine, Stronghold, and abandoned mineshaft all intersecting over a slime-spawning chunk?
#29 [00:11] <gamakichi> and its happening again
#30 [00:11] <gamakichi> any help?
#31 [00:11] <gartral> gamakichi: have you tried increasing the java vm memory heap?
#32 [00:12] <gamakichi> how u increase it?
#33 [00:12] <gamakichi> that would help
#34 [00:12] <gartral> Are you on windows?
#35 [00:12] <gamakichi> yeah
#36 [00:12] <gamakichi> windows 7
#37 [00:12] <gartral> K.. hang on one sec
#38 [00:14] <Guest96532> LOL in aether, you walk up to this treasure chest and are like, "o kewl treasure" and u try to open it and suddenly ... IT'S ALIVE!!! the treasure chest starts attacking you LOL
#39 [00:14] <Guest96532> it has teeth and walks on little blocky feet
#40 [00:15] <gartral> gamakichi: ok, the simple way is too make a new shortcut for minecraft.. follow the second answer on http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/bwod_black_window_of_death under promoted responses
#41 [00:16] <gamakichi> ok
#42 [00:16] <gartral> gamakichi: sorry for the delay, i had too look up thw windows instructions
#43 [00:16] <gamakichi> no problem
#44 [00:16] <gamakichi> so i just create a new shortcut?
#45 [00:17] <gartral> and alter some options, yes
#46 [00:17] <gamakichi> ok
#47 [00:17] <gamakichi> ty so much
#48 [00:17] <gamakichi> but u mean as a shortcut
#49 [00:17] <gamakichi> to the desktop
#50 [00:17] <gamakichi> right?
#51 [00:17] <gartral> np, Java by default forces a cap of like 256 mb... not bloody much for a game
#52 [00:17] <Thrae> Guest96532: Minecraft will have an "Adventure Mode", but we don't know exactly what that'll be
#53 [00:17] <gartral> gamakichi: yea
#54 [00:17] <Guest96532> oh fun
#55 [00:18] <Guest96532> alot of the ideas on Aether are really really cool
#56 [00:18] <Thrae> gamakichi: Are you using 64-bit Windows? What's your total RAM?
#57 [00:18] <Guest96532> almost cool enough to get me to actually go play up through the ranks of survivor for a change
#58 [00:19] <Guest96532> I bought minecraft because I saw that early rollercoaster video that was on the web site in the early alpha days and was like, "OMG I want to make some blocky roller coasters, where do i buy this thing"
#59 [00:20] <gartral> I bought minecraft cause my humble bundle trial period died.. and i was addicted, lol
#60 [00:20] <Guest96532> and apparently that's not really what it's all been about, but at no point have I been very interested in survival mode ... aether though is awesome enough to possibly change that
#61 [00:20] <gamakichi> my total ram?
#62 [00:20] <Guest96532> humble bundle came with a minecraft trial period ?
#63 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#64 [00:20] <TheNoodle> gamakichi, using windows?
#65 [00:21] <gartral> Guest96532: yea, #3 had a three week trial
#66 [00:21] <Guest96532> i was alpha supporter. free minecraft updates for life BITCH
#67 [00:21] <Guest96532> lulz :)
#68 [00:21] <Guest96532> i really can't understand though why it's taken so long to get the modding API out
#69 [00:22] <JohnEBH> To make our lives easier.
#70 [00:22] <Guest96532> all this stuff about NPC villages and strongholds and stuff could be made by the community. notch just has to make the modding API and then sit back and collect the money for the rest of his life and he's set
#71 [00:22] <JohnEBH> (By not support mods)
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#73 [00:24] <jeffhoep> Hello
#74 [00:24] <Thrae> Guest96532: Modding doesn't work that way -- if a mod becomes too prized, Notch could end up basically working for the modder while the modder gets paid himself for selling "premium content" (as you can do so with Minecraft mods). By coding it himself, Mojang controls the development and makes it far, far easier to maintain the code.
#75 [00:24] <Thrae> Guest96532: Maintaining someone else's code is one of the nightmares of programming
#76 [00:25] <jeffhoep> Thrae hello
#77 [00:25] <Guest96532> Thrae, wait, waht?
#78 [00:26] <Guest96532> First, are you speaking theoretically about premium content in the future, or now?
#79 [00:27] <Thrae> Guest96532: Modders can sell their mods now -- there are mods out there that require you to buy them
#80 [00:27] <Guest96532> Second, when has that ever been the experience of any game that has invited modders. Look at DooM and Quake. Starsiege Tribes was pretty much build as a moddable game from the ground up and that didn't happen to them.
#81 [00:27] <Guest96532> Hmm I'm not sure I would allow selling minecraft mods if I were Notch.
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#83 [00:28] <JohnEBH> How would you go around stopping others from selling their work...
#84 [00:28] <Thrae> Again, Minecraft is an unfinished product. You want it to take a direction the developers don't want it to go, and they have the final say. They've already said that a modding API is on the horizon, they just need to sync their ideas with the community.
#85 [00:29] <Thrae> I think the last time they talked about a modding API they said "soon", but an API is something you don't want to push and then break with the next update due to problems with the API
#86 [00:29] <rsam> hey, im trying to buy the game but when i enter the number to get the sms i wont recieve a message? anyone know whats wrong?
#87 [00:29] <JohnEBH> sms?
#88 [00:29] <TheNoodle> Rsam, where are you buying minecraft from? And how are you paying?
#89 [00:29] <Guest96532> I'm googling this and I can't find any commercial minecraft mods. What commercial mods are you guys talking about?
#90 [00:30] <Thrae> Moneybookers sometimes requires using Text Messaging to verify a transaction
#91 [00:30] <rsam> the minecraft.net site
#92 [00:30] <ShyneeThings> thrae, thanks! seem to have gotten it! :)
#93 [00:30] <ShyneeThings> have a good nite all
#94 [00:30] * JohnEBH never used Moneybookers
#94 [00:31] <rsam> but im not recieving the message?? any one know what wrong?
#95 [00:31] <Thrae> rsam: Sounds like you're having a problem with Moneybookers, who are a payment company that minecraft.net uses if you want to use a Credit Card. I'd suggest using Paypal instead.
#96 [00:31] <Thrae> rsam: Mojang has no control over problems with Moneybookers
#97 [00:31] <rsam> ok thx
#98 [00:31] * JohnEBH loves paypal, wish it was supported EVERYWHERE.
#98 [00:31] <Thrae> Paypal is like Steam -- evil but useful
#99 [00:31] <JohnEBH> eeebilll?
#100 [00:32] <JohnEBH> How so >:
#101 [00:32] * JohnEBH falls asleep
#101 [00:32] <Thrae> Paypal is notorious for having horrible customer support, as bad as GoDaddy's, worse than Steam
#102 [00:32] <JohnEBH> Steam had tech support?
#103 [00:32] <JohnEBH> Whut...
#104 [00:33] <Thrae> Yeah, and Paypal's is WORSE
#105 [00:34] <jeffhoep> Thrae i came in a couple of nights ago with a question...ran mcdebug like you suggested...the game shut down and a message was sent...now??
#106 [00:34] <Thrae> jeffhoep: If you *just* ran MCDebug.exe and had it crash, AuBot will inform us of your pastebin if you had it make a pastebin
#107 [00:35] <Thrae> jeffhoep: Did you *just* send the pastebin? AuBot could be lagging....
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#109 [00:39] <TheNoodle> Thrae, paypals customer support is amazing.
#110 [00:39] <TheNoodle> :P
#111 [00:39] <jeffhoep> it was sent a day ago..i didnt have a pastebin yet...just signed on to it...dont worry the game will crash agin...soon
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#113 [00:40] <Thrae> jeffhoep: One sec
#114 [00:41] <Thrae> jeffhoep: Sorry, looks like pastebin deleted your paste due to age, so we'll need a new one
#115 [00:43] <jeffhoep> thrae: ok, no problem...there will be a message soon im sure. i will drop in when it goes again. thanks for your time
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#119 [00:58] <TheNoodle> there we go :)
#120 [00:58] <jeffhoep> Thrae a message should of just been sent
#121 [00:58] <TheNoodle> Yep.
#122 [00:59] <jeffhoep> theNoodle howdy
#123 [00:59] <TheNoodle> Sup.
#124 [00:59] <TheNoodle> Thrae should be around soon.
#125 [01:00] <jeffhoep> trying to play for more than ten minutes at a time
#126 [01:00] <jeffhoep> ok
#127 [01:01] <Thrae> jeffhoep: Yep, it failed inside an ATI/AMD driver
#128 [01:01] <Thrae> ??> jeffhoep win/dxdiag
#129 [01:01] <VoxelHead> jeffhoep: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#130 [01:01] <VoxelHead> jeffhoep: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#131 [01:02] <Thrae> jeffhoep: We even see this with newer AMD/ATI drivers. We'll help you update, follow VoxelHead's instructions.
#132 [01:03] <jeffhoep> Wow...ok getting started
#133 [01:07] <jeffhoep> 641 lines?
#134 [01:08] <Thrae> Edit->Select All, Edit->Copy, then paste into pastebin.com and give us the link
#135 [01:09] <jeffhoep> pastebin.com/twaa52nb
#136 [01:10] <jeffhoep> Does that look like what you wanted/needed?
#137 [01:10] <Thrae> jeffhoep: Yeah looks like you got some weird version of the driver
#138 [01:11] <jeffhoep> and how do i unweird it? :)
#139 [01:13] <Thrae> jeffhoep: Try installing the Catalyst Suite from here -- http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-32.aspx , if the install is successful but the problem continues, go to the same page then select "Individual Downloads" and download and install just the Display Driver (installing the suite sometimes fails to do this)
#140 [01:14] <Thrae> jeffhoep: Wait -- that driver won't work
#141 [01:15] <Thrae> jeffhoep: You have the Radeon 2100, not a Radeon HD. It's an Integrated chip that's not a dedicated GPU.
#142 [01:15] <Thrae> jeffhoep: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/integrated_vista32.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.2.3.2&lang=English <-- download and install *THIS* version of the Catalyst Suite
#143 [01:16] <Guest96532> the Aether people should make it be night when someone kills a sun spirit
#144 [01:16] <Guest96532> so there'd be no night in the aether unless someone completes a gold dungeon
#145 [01:16] <Guest96532> that would be a cooler reward than treasure
#146 [01:16] <Thrae> jeffhoep: One of the problems with your setup is that ATI stopped making driver updates for your video chipset before Windows 7 comes out, and doesn't have a driver that conforms to the newer Windows 7 model...not sure if that's the issue here
#147 [01:16] <jeffhoep> i have windows 7...vista32?
#148 [01:17] <jeffhoep> oh
#149 [01:17] <Thrae> jeffhoep: They only have a Vista version of drivers for this chipset, no Windows 7, but Vista drivers *should* work on Windows 7 since Windows 7 is binary-compatible (uses a slightly modified Vista kernel)
#150 [01:18] <Thrae> jeffhoep: AMD themselves say so on that page
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#153 [01:20] <Thrae> jeffhoep: If that doesn't work, see if these modded drivers will install -- http://www.omegadrivers.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=397:amd-catalyst-drivers-119&catid=37:ati-news&Itemid=71
#154 [01:23] <Thrae> jeffhoep: I have to go AFK for the night, but someone else here should be able to help you if needed -- just give them http://pastebin.com/TTPiQMFJ and http://pastebin.com/twaa52nb
#155 [01:23] <jeffhoep> ok...thankyou for your help
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#167 [02:33] <guest-786011-61097> may i get some help if paoosible
#168 [02:33] <guest-786011-61097> possible *
#169 [02:34] <guest-786011-61097> is there any one awake
#170 [02:40] <guest-786011-61097> hello
#171 [02:40] <guest-786011-61097> any help would be nice
#172 [02:44] <|Kiikun|> guest-786011-61097: whats up?
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#175 [02:49] <guest-726560-81213> Hey, is there a way to admin colored wool on a server?
#176 [02:50] <|Kiikun|> Naucitos: not on a vanilla server. you can toss out dyes too.
#177 [02:50] * GreyVulpine wonders if you could do colored wool on creative mode..
#177 [02:50] <Naucitos> do you know of a mod that works for 1.9.2 that would let me?
#178 [02:52] * |Kiikun| kicks server on and tests the creative idea
#178 [02:53] <|Kiikun|> yeah. creative mode lets you pick wool colors
#179 [02:53] <|Kiikun|> and the dyes.
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#181 [02:54] <Naucitos> but i'm SoL for survival, huh?
#182 [02:55] <|Kiikun|> admins can change players modes into creative
#183 [02:55] <|Kiikun|> /gamemode player 1
#184 [02:55] <Puddles> hi all, have just installed IE 9 and it seems to be wreaking havoc with my minecraft experience. Any ideas about IE settings perhaps?
#185 [02:55] <|Kiikun|> 0 returns back to survival
#186 [02:55] <Naucitos> really?
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#188 [02:55] <|Kiikun|> yup :P
#189 [02:55] <Naucitos> i thought it was a server mode, not a player specific one
#190 [02:56] <|Kiikun|> Naucitos: the server in general is set to one mode. players can be set to other.
#191 [02:56] <|Kiikun|> Naucitos: yuo can join kiichan.is-a-geek.net and i can prove it :D
#192 [02:57] <|Kiikun|> Puddles: and sorry.. dunno and dont use IE when and if i can help it <.<
#193 [02:59] <Naucitos> yeah, i believe you XD
#194 [02:59] <Naucitos> lol
#195 [03:00] <|Kiikun|> i like pissing off enders whiel in creative mode :P
#196 [03:01] <Naucitos> i love looking at endermen from far away
#197 [03:01] <Naucitos> on top of my tower
#198 [03:01] <Naucitos> and watch them teleport around on the floor
#199 [03:01] <Naucitos> trying to get to me
#200 [03:02] <Naucitos> kii, do you have any suggestions that would be able to help me get potions on multiplayer?
#201 [03:03] <Naucitos> or can creative not change the damage value on the empty potions
#202 [03:05] <|Kiikun|> creative cant do that. i know bukkit can use the give command with damage values...
#203 [03:05] <|Kiikun|> or a mod to bukkit
#204 [03:05] <Naucitos> ah, well thats a shame then, since i don't think bukkit is updated for 1.9.2
#205 [03:06] <|Kiikun|> nope :P theyve been slow for the 1.8.1 update.
#206 [03:06] <Naucitos> so theres no way for me to get these, huh
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#208 [03:07] <Naucitos> Is there some sort of server inventory editor i could use
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#210 [03:07] <Calinou> dunno
#211 [03:07] <Calinou> I don't know if any inventory editor is updated for 1.9
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#213 [03:07] <Naucitos> cause we have access directly to the players .dat file
#214 [03:09] <Naucitos> hrm, it seems invedit is updated
#215 [03:13] <|Kiikun|> rofl... flower on a floating grass block...
#216 [03:13] <|Kiikun|> World's Lonliest Flower? XD
#217 [03:14] <lemon-rev> and only you could catch that in mc :P
#218 [03:14] <|Kiikun|> wha? it was at my flying level
#219 [03:20] <lemon-rev> whats your flying level
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#221 [03:23] <|Kiikun|> um... was probably 80-100
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#224 [03:40] <Schala_Zeal> Are nether portals supposed to be generated in a new map? Cause I was exploring the world when suddenly I saw a portal and haven't even built one nor been to the nether yet
#225 [03:46] <|Kiikun|> Schala_Zeal: dont remember hearing about it.... check it out? and does the land around it look... Odd?
#226 [03:49] <Schala_Zeal> nope, looks like an ordinary map generation
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#228 [03:50] <Schala_Zeal> it's 1.9 so.... I guess maybe it's something that wasn't documented... naturally generated portals to celebrate the nether update I guess
#229 [03:51] <Schala_Zeal> thought it was a bug I came across
#230 [03:56] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Schala_Zeal: im reading up older bugs that used to make portals when you die in nether... did you poke through the portal?
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#232 [03:58] <Schala_Zeal> I did
#233 [03:59] <Schala_Zeal> bad thing about this apparent natural portal generation is that I wasn't equipped right and I have no way back if I lost the portal I came through
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#235 [04:06] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Schala_Zeal: take it it wasnt into some room in a nether stronghold? only reason i could see a natural portal spawn.
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#240 [04:24] <forgotten> ... hello?
#241 [04:26] <forgotten> anyone who can help me? ôo
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#245 [05:09] <Shado666> hey, can anyone give me the minecraft crash report tool? I need it to make a log of one
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#247 [05:15] <PaulieP> Hey Guys
#248 [05:16] <PaulieP> Does anyone have a link to the original Texture pack download
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#255 [06:01] <obi_wan> ok after i log in it tells me a fatal error occurred
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#257 [06:06] <lemon-rev> obi_wan have you got the newest java ?
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#260 [06:10] <obi_wan> yeah
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#262 [06:11] <lemon-rev> have you tryed via the web broswer
#263 [06:12] <forgotten> hello
#264 [06:13] <lemon-rev> yes forgotten
#265 [06:13] <obi_wan> ok iv got it now i adjusted some of the settings on there
#266 [06:13] <forgotten> ah an answer how nice.
#267 [06:13] <lemon-rev> hm
#268 [06:15] <forgotten> Can I ask you something?
#269 [06:15] <lemon-rev> well thats why your here isnt it
#270 [06:15] <obi_wan> nevermind it crashed and is now doing the same thing it was before
#271 [06:15] <forgotten> it is.
#272 [06:15] <lemon-rev> obi_wan windows ?
#273 [06:15] <obi_wan> yeah
#274 [06:15] <lemon-rev> ??> obi_wan win/dxdiag
#275 [06:15] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#276 [06:16] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#277 [06:16] <forgotten> oh ive to go now. -.-
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#281 [06:34] <obi_wan> ok were is the icr channel
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#283 [06:35] <obi_wan> IRC*
#284 [06:36] <RiGi> IRC is right here :)
#285 [06:36] <Silent_Samurai> Lol that was fail.
#286 [06:36] <obi_wan> http://pastebin.com/NgfbXmjc
#287 [06:36] <obi_wan> ok
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#289 [06:38] <lemon-rev> ty
#290 [06:39] <lemon-rev> obi_wan http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx < download install and run , good luck, and then try mc again
#291 [06:40] <obi_wan> ok will do thanks
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#299 [07:04] <cheasy4skins> hey guys
#300 [07:04] <geofri1997> i trying buying minecraft the cridetunion allowed and i stilll dont have it i try yesterday afternoon does anybody know why?
#301 [07:04] <cheasy4skins> can any1 try to help me
#302 [07:04] <cheasy4skins> hey im da 1 askin q's
#303 [07:04] <cheasy4skins> XD lol jks
#304 [07:04] <cheasy4skins> what do u mean
#305 [07:05] <cheasy4skins> ill try answerin it
#306 [07:05] <cheasy4skins> ???
#307 [07:05] <cheasy4skins> try it again
#308 [07:05] <cheasy4skins> and see where u downloaded it
#309 [07:05] <cheasy4skins> i dunno
#310 [07:06] <geofri1997> it said i bought it and it would come in 1 hr but that was yesterday at 3 and still no mindcraft
#311 [07:06] <lemon-rev> cheasy4skins what exactly is your problem
#312 [07:06] <cheasy4skins> when i play minecraft on my laptop
#313 [07:06] <lemon-rev> wtf, geofri1997 are you talking about playing or login in ?
#314 [07:06] <cheasy4skins> it comes up wit bad video card
#315 [07:07] <cheasy4skins> can that be fixed
#316 [07:07] <cheasy4skins> with out buyin anything
#317 [07:07] <lemon-rev> cheasy4skins first has the game worked before ?
#318 [07:07] <cheasy4skins> or downloadin anythin]
#319 [07:07] <cheasy4skins> yeah
#320 [07:07] <cheasy4skins> often
#321 [07:07] <cheasy4skins> sometimes it wortks
#322 [07:07] <lemon-rev> ??> cheasy4skins win/reinst
#323 [07:07] <VoxelHead> cheasy4skins: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#324 [07:07] <VoxelHead> cheasy4skins: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#325 [07:08] <lemon-rev> cheasy4skins also goto java.com and make sure you have latest java
#326 [07:08] <cheasy4skins> hmmm
#327 [07:08] <cheasy4skins> hang on
#328 [07:08] <cheasy4skins> go buy step by step
#329 [07:08] <cheasy4skins> im very slow
#330 [07:08] <cheasy4skins> ?
#331 [07:09] <cheasy4skins> ok hang on
#332 [07:09] <cheasy4skins> so u do that appdata thing
#333 [07:09] <lemon-rev> yes
#334 [07:09] <cheasy4skins> then go on .minecraft
#335 [07:09] <lemon-rev> yes
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#337 [07:09] <cheasy4skins> then delete everything bt the saves file
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#339 [07:10] <cheasy4skins> do i delete everything but the saves file
#340 [07:10] <cheasy4skins> ????????????????????
#341 [07:11] <lemon-rev> delete everything but, the saves
#342 [07:11] <cheasy4skins> lemon
#343 [07:11] <cheasy4skins> is that right
#344 [07:11] <cheasy4skins> ????????????
#345 [07:11] <lemon-rev> what i just said
#346 [07:11] <cheasy4skins> delete everything but
#347 [07:11] <cheasy4skins> the saves
#348 [07:11] <lemon-rev> correct
#349 [07:11] <JohnEBH> ...
#350 [07:11] <cheasy4skins> OK
#351 [07:12] <lemon-rev> lol, johnebh just some kid with a impatiant prob but its kewl, vox is dealing quite well lol
#352 [07:12] <JohnEBH> I see i c...
#353 [07:13] <barul> is it difficult to make a mod compatible with versions of minecraft?
#354 [07:13] <lemon-rev> barul ask in /j #risucraft
#355 [07:14] <barul> thanks
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#357 [07:15] <JohnEBH> I've always wondered why it was call risucraft...
#358 [07:15] * JohnEBH googles
#358 [07:15] <cheasy4skins> i hope this works
#359 [07:16] <JohnEBH> Ahhh
#360 [07:16] <JohnEBH> I get now >.>
#361 [07:16] <lemon-rev> JohnEBH i dont know why they called it risucraft < possible rescue craft in other terms lol
#362 [07:16] <JohnEBH> Risugami's mods =P
#363 [07:16] <cheasy4skins> LEMON
#364 [07:16] <JohnEBH> I'm assuming.
#365 [07:16] <cheasy4skins> IT DIDNT WORK
#366 [07:16] <JohnEBH> Drop the caps please >:
#367 [07:17] <JohnEBH> We don't like being yelled at.
#368 [07:17] <lemon-rev> cheasy4skins ok, so the update from ati failed correct ?
#369 [07:17] <cheasy4skins> sorry
#370 [07:17] <cheasy4skins> ahh yah
#371 [07:17] <cheasy4skins> wait
#372 [07:17] <cheasy4skins> ati?
#373 [07:17] <lemon-rev> hm, now i think im foobared
#374 [07:17] <lemon-rev> ok, you just did a reinstall correct
#375 [07:17] <cheasy4skins> ummm
#376 [07:18] <lemon-rev> i told you to delete folders
#377 [07:18] <JohnEBH> ??> cheasy4skins win/dxdiag
#378 [07:18] <VoxelHead> cheasy4skins: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#379 [07:18] <cheasy4skins> i deleted everythin from .minecraft but the saves file
#380 [07:18] <VoxelHead> cheasy4skins: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#381 [07:18] <JohnEBH> I got 20 minutes to spare =P
#382 [07:18] <lemon-rev> yea that might help as well possible :)
#383 [07:18] <lemon-rev> kk
#384 [07:18] <JohnEBH> I can find the drivers.
#385 [07:18] <JohnEBH> Hopefully... Maybe... In 20 minutes... Damn school.
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#387 [07:18] <cheasy4skins> wait r u guys people or computers
#388 [07:19] <cheasy4skins> ???
#389 [07:19] <JohnEBH> Computers go to school...
#390 [07:19] <JohnEBH> Totally
#391 [07:19] <cheasy4skins> wait how old r u then
#392 [07:19] <JohnEBH> 16
#393 [07:19] <cheasy4skins> wow
#394 [07:19] <JohnEBH> Why do you ask?
#395 [07:19] <cheasy4skins> ur smart
#396 [07:19] * JohnEBH wishes
#396 [07:19] <cheasy4skins> just that u guys know everythin
#397 [07:20] <cheasy4skins> ok lemon
#398 [07:20] <SinZ> common knowledge for us
#399 [07:20] <JohnEBH> Not everything, and hows that DxDiag coming along xD
#400 [07:20] <cheasy4skins> im on that thing
#401 [07:20] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- "Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop."
#402 [07:20] <cheasy4skins> wait is that a hax
#403 [07:20] <SinZ> no
#404 [07:20] <SinZ> it give info on your hardware
#405 [07:20] <SinZ> for us to further find the cause of your bugs
#406 [07:20] <obi_wan> i installed it and it didnt work
#407 [07:21] <JohnEBH> I'm using it to find you proper drivers =P
#408 [07:21] <cheasy4skins> ok
#409 [07:21] <lemon-rev> obi_wan < what was the last think i told you to do
#410 [07:21] <cheasy4skins> john
#411 [07:21] <cheasy4skins> now what
#412 [07:21] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- "Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel."
#413 [07:22] <cheasy4skins> so copy everything in the file
#414 [07:22] <lemon-rev> bah,
#415 [07:22] <JohnEBH> Ctrl+A and copy - Yup
#416 [07:22] * lemon-rev off to bed, night JohnEBH have a good day at school, < or hell :P
#416 [07:23] <cheasy4skins> i think its a hack
#417 [07:23] <JohnEBH> Ty lemon-rev! xD Night!
#418 [07:23] <lemon-rev> np
#419 [07:23] <cheasy4skins> u r probs gonna get all my data
#420 [07:23] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- Only hardware atleast.
#421 [07:23] <cheasy4skins> ???
#422 [07:23] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- Nothing in terms of files and folders.
#423 [07:24] <cheasy4skins> i hope this doesnt stuff everythin up
#424 [07:24] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- It gets information about your desktop, like what Graphics card, Monitor and Sound...
#425 [07:24] <cheasy4skins> cause i dont want my laptop to stuff up and break
#426 [07:24] <cheasy4skins> ok...
#427 [07:24] <JohnEBH> If you haven't noticed it's "Dx""Diag" - Direct X Diagnosis
#428 [07:24] <cheasy4skins> do i have 2 sign in
#429 [07:25] <JohnEBH> Signin?
#430 [07:25] <JohnEBH> No, just paste it into the field
#431 [07:25] <cheasy4skins> i pasted
#432 [07:25] <cheasy4skins> but how do i save
#433 [07:25] <JohnEBH> "and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel."
#434 [07:25] <JohnEBH> That'll lead me to your paste
#435 [07:25] <JohnEBH> And I'll be able to extract the information I need from it.
#436 [07:26] <JohnEBH> 15 minutes left =P
#437 [07:26] <cheasy4skins> irc
#438 [07:26] <cheasy4skins> is that this
#439 [07:26] <cheasy4skins> the chat thing
#440 [07:26] <JohnEBH> Yep
#441 [07:27] <cheasy4skins> http://pastebin.com/JhAbr35Z
#442 [07:27] <cheasy4skins> ok
#443 [07:27] <JohnEBH> Gotcha, hold u
#444 [07:27] <JohnEBH> Up*
#445 [07:27] <cheasy4skins> wait will this cost anythin
#446 [07:27] <JohnEBH> No
#447 [07:27] <cheasy4skins> ok
#448 [07:27] <obi_wan> to install and run amd
#449 [07:27] <JohnEBH> You installed the wrong drivers.
#450 [07:27] <cheasy4skins> ok
#451 [07:28] <cheasy4skins> soo
#452 [07:28] <cheasy4skins> u cant fix it
#453 [07:28] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- You have an Intel not ATI xD
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#455 [07:28] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- Yeah give me a second
#456 [07:28] <cheasy4skins> so intel cant do stuff
#457 [07:28] <JohnEBH> obi_wan- Elaborate, lemon-rev went to sleep =P
#458 [07:28] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- Woops, I meant I can fix =P
#459 [07:28] <cheasy4skins> lol
#460 [07:28] <obi_wan> ok
#461 [07:29] <cheasy4skins> u can fix it
#462 [07:29] <cheasy4skins> cause all i want to do is play minecraft
#463 [07:29] <obi_wan> he told me,http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx < download install and run
#464 [07:29] <forgotten> test
#465 [07:30] <cheasy4skins> i dont want some download stuff that will stuff up my laptop
#466 [07:30] <cheasy4skins> i just want to play minecraft
#467 [07:30] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20391&ProdId=3231&lang=eng - Download and install.
#468 [07:30] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- Those are the proper drivers, they should take the place of the ATI drivers you installed.
#469 [07:30] <JohnEBH> And hopefully that gets you back on to Minecraft
#470 [07:31] <cheasy4skins> when i run it and stuff
#471 [07:31] <cheasy4skins> can i delete it
#472 [07:31] <JohnEBH> obi_wan- then download and install xD
#473 [07:31] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- Delete it when you're done installing it (Like after restarting your computer)
#474 [07:31] <cheasy4skins> i??
#475 [07:31] <cheasy4skins> ok
#476 [07:31] <JohnEBH> forgotten- It works =P
#477 [07:32] <cheasy4skins> how much space will it take up
#478 [07:32] <obi_wan> i did and its on there ive checked,i just get the same fatal error message
#479 [07:32] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- About maximum 100mb
#480 [07:32] <cheasy4skins> ok
#481 [07:33] <cheasy4skins> when i have installed it
#482 [07:33] <JohnEBH> obi_wan- Have you reinstalled minecraft yet?
#483 [07:33] <obi_wan> no
#484 [07:33] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- Feel free to delete it.
#485 [07:33] <cheasy4skins> do i delete the installed 1 aswell
#486 [07:33] <cheasy4skins> or keep it
#487 [07:33] <JohnEBH> ??> obi_wan win/reinst/bat
#488 [07:33] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#489 [07:33] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
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#491 [07:33] <cheasy4skins> after i use the installed 1 first
#492 [07:33] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- The one installed currently... Best is to delete I guess
#493 [07:34] <cheasy4skins> and how do i reset my laptop like fully restart all my download files r gone and that
#494 [07:34] <cheasy4skins> if it stuffs up
#495 [07:34] <JohnEBH> To factory defaults?
#496 [07:35] <cheasy4skins> the starter defaults
#497 [07:35] <cheasy4skins> like u just baught the laptop
#498 [07:35] <JohnEBH> Starter defaults?
#499 [07:35] <JohnEBH> Yeah Factory default xD
#500 [07:35] <forgotten> so my problem (probably) is very easy: i've payed witz EC "Direct Debit". The dates are correct and its enough money for paying. i sent the dates ca. 5 days ago. do you can help me? :-/
#501 [07:35] <JohnEBH> Should be in your manual, but I'll check for you...
#502 [07:36] <JohnEBH> forgotten- Sorry, you'll have to take that up with mojang
#503 [07:36] <JohnEBH> ??> forgotten support
#504 [07:36] <VoxelHead> forgotten: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#505 [07:36] <forgotten> hm okay... but thanks. (=
#506 [07:37] <cheasy4skins> yeah how do i get the factory defaults
#507 [07:37] <cheasy4skins> if it stuffs up
#508 [07:37] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- Look around in Start>All programs. Look specifically for something such as "HP restore"... Something like that. It should have options to reinstall drivers and set it to factory defaults
#509 [07:37] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- Or you can always go to the place you bought it from and ask them.
#510 [07:38] <cheasy4skins> nah
#511 [07:38] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- After all... They sold it to you.
#512 [07:38] <cheasy4skins> my dad would crack it
#513 [07:38] <cheasy4skins> im only 13
#514 [07:38] <cheasy4skins> =l
#515 [07:38] <JohnEBH> You can do a lot when you're 13 =P
#516 [07:38] <JohnEBH> Like build your first PC...
#517 [07:38] <JohnEBH> Anyways Gtg!
#518 [07:38] <cheasy4skins> damm
#519 [07:39] <JohnEBH> Hope that drivers fixes your problems
#520 [07:39] <cheasy4skins> now who's gonna help me
#521 [07:39] <obi_wan> thanks man worked like a charm,where did you learn about all this stuff anyways
#522 [07:39] <cheasy4skins> hang on
#523 [07:39] <cheasy4skins> john
#524 [07:40] <cheasy4skins> r u there
#525 [07:40] <cheasy4skins> john
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#527 [07:40] <cheasy4skins> is there any1 that can help me right now
#528 [07:40] <JohnEBH> obi_wan- As someone said "Common knowledge to us"
#529 [07:41] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- Just download and install
#530 [07:41] <JohnEBH> cheasy4skins- You'll be fine.
#531 [07:41] <SinZ> That was me =P
#532 [07:41] <cheasy4skins> yeah
#533 [07:41] <cheasy4skins> i did
#534 [07:41] <cheasy4skins> but
#535 [07:41] <cheasy4skins> it says
#536 [07:42] <cheasy4skins> the driver being installed is not validated
#537 [07:43] <JohnEBH> I'll give you instructions on installing it manually....
#538 [07:43] <cheasy4skins> plz obtain tge appropriat driver from the computer manufacturer
#539 [07:43] <JohnEBH> http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-install-hardware-or-device-drivers-manually-in-windows-vista/
#540 [07:43] <JohnEBH> Installing it manually might help ^
#541 [07:43] <JohnEBH> Good luck, I really have to go... No buses come at this time, so I bike =P
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#543 [07:46] <cheasy4skins> i really dont understand this crap
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#545 [07:51] <cheasy4skins> is john still there?
#546 [07:52] <cheasy4skins> ???
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#556 [08:26] <guest-0-88616> Hello
#557 [08:26] <guest-0-88616> Can i get help here?
#558 [08:27] <guest-0-88616> Would anyone mind to help me?
#559 [08:29] <peru_> nope
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#561 [08:35] <zelda> hello
#562 [08:35] <zelda> ??
#563 [08:35] <zelda> is this the minecratf help??
#564 [08:35] <zelda> minecrafthelp?
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#566 [08:40] <Sardonicus> yes
#567 [08:41] <guest-0-88616> can anyone help me?
#568 [08:41] <Sardonicus> maybe
#569 [08:42] <guest-0-88616> Who do i acces my application support?
#570 [08:42] <guest-0-88616> Because in my "finder" I can't find it
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#572 [08:43] <Sardonicus> don't know
#573 [08:44] <guest-0-88616> Can nayone help me?
#574 [08:44] <guest-0-88616> anyone*
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#578 [08:51] <dylanbarberdude> yeah
#579 [08:52] <guest-0-88616> dylan?
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#581 [08:53] <dylanbarberdude> yeah
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#583 [08:56] <Baby_Creeper> Guys,I've bought Minecraft, and I wanted to try out Classic Creative mode, but I can't seem to connect to ANY server at all.
#584 [08:56] <Baby_Creeper> Do you offer support for Classic also?
#585 [08:57] * dylanbarberdude says hello to Baby_Creeper
#585 [08:57] <Baby_Creeper> Hai Dylan
#586 [08:58] <dylanbarberdude> hai
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#588 [09:01] <fuogo> hi
#589 [09:01] <fuogo> i need help
#590 [09:01] <dylanbarberdude> ok
#591 [09:01] <fuogo> and my prob is
#592 [09:01] <dylanbarberdude> ?
#593 [09:02] <fuogo> if i run minecraft its doesnt work and i got a error report on my deskop so ..
#594 [09:03] <fuogo> u can help?
#595 [09:03] <fuogo> u there?
#596 [09:05] <fuogo> if u running minecraft and it want to start up it doest work and it closed whitout permission and i got an error report on my destkop thats my prob>>
#597 [09:06] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#598 [09:06] <fuogo> \. . . . . . .. . .. . .. . . .
#599 [09:06] <dylanbarberdude> old pc?
#600 [09:06] <fuogo> i think so
#601 [09:06] <fuogo> it is from 2009
#602 [09:07] <dylanbarberdude> get a new pc
#603 [09:07] <Baby_Creeper> Mine's from 2007 or so
#604 [09:07] <fuogo> and if i dont got the mony
#605 [09:07] <fuogo> money
#606 [09:07] <fuogo> and u can play 1.8.1??
#607 [09:08] <dylanbarberdude> no
#608 [09:08] <dylanbarberdude> try classic
#609 [09:08] <fuogo> yeh thats work
#610 [09:08] <fuogo> classic work
#611 [09:08] <dylanbarberdude> yep
#612 [09:09] <dylanbarberdude> get a new graphics card
#613 [09:09] <dylanbarberdude> and cpu
#614 [09:09] <fuogo> i got a pc upstairs thats from 2010 but dont got internet on it
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#616 [09:10] <fuogo> internet/network
#617 [09:10] <Valerie> you can copy the minecraft files to that new PC with a thumb drive and play offline
#618 [09:10] <dylanbarberdude> use that
#619 [09:10] <dylanbarberdude> yeah
#620 [09:10] <fuogo> oke.
#621 [09:11] <fuogo> i must copy it whit wat??
#622 [09:11] <Valerie> a USB thumb drive
#623 [09:11] <Valerie> those are things that look like keychain holders
#624 [09:11] <Valerie> but they plug into the front bay and you can transfer files into them quick
#625 [09:11] <fuogo> oke i got 2 usb but i dont know wat thumb drive is
#626 [09:12] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#627 [09:12] <Valerie> it's simply a slang term for those storage devices as big as your thumb
#628 [09:12] <fuogo> i know
#629 [09:12] <fuogo> lol
#630 [09:12] <Valerie> hence thumb drive
#631 [09:12] <Valerie> but yeah
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#633 [09:12] <Valerie> navigate to your folder
#634 [09:12] <fuogo> oke and i must use the usb in the pc and how i must copy it??
#635 [09:12] <Valerie> go to Appdata
#636 [09:13] <dylanbarberdude> !help
#637 [09:13] <Valerie> then Remote
#638 [09:13] <Valerie> then copy .Minecraft to the usb drive
#639 [09:13] <Valerie> once that is done
#640 [09:13] <fuogo> wait a sec i have to take my usb
#641 [09:13] <dylanbarberdude> !reinstall
#642 [09:13] <dylanbarberdude> ^^^
#643 [09:13] <Valerie> go to the new computer and plug the drive in
#644 [09:14] <Valerie> then transfer the folder to the equivalent folder in your new PC
#645 [09:14] <Valerie> which should be User/Appdata/Remote/.minecraft
#646 [09:14] <dylanbarberdude> !server
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#648 [09:15] <Valerie> or just User/Appdata/Remote/
#649 [09:15] <fuogo> ..
#650 [09:15] <dylanbarberdude> !check <mc.gazamo.com[:25565]>
#651 [09:16] <dylanbarberdude> !check mc.gazamo.com
#652 [09:16] <Valerie> 1034 ms latency...lmao
#653 [09:16] <dylanbarberdude> kool
#654 [09:16] <dylanbarberdude> hmm i wonder
#655 [09:17] <dylanbarberdude> !check localhost
#656 [09:17] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#657 [09:17] <dylanbarberdude> my ip!
#658 [09:17] <Valerie> !check google
#659 [09:17] <Valerie> !check google.com
#660 [09:17] <Baby_Creeper> !check minecraft
#661 [09:17] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#662 [09:18] <Valerie> aww
#663 [09:18] <dylanbarberdude> !check one.yogiverse.com
#664 [09:18] <Valerie> 32 people :o
#665 [09:18] <dylanbarberdude> OMG
#666 [09:18] <Valerie> goddamn
#667 [09:19] <dylanbarberdude> yogscast vinnila server been looking for that!!!
#668 [09:19] <fuogo> ..
#669 [09:19] <dylanbarberdude> good latency
#670 [09:19] <fuogo> can i just set the minecaft on my deskop on the usb???
#671 [09:19] <dylanbarberdude> very good
#672 [09:19] <Valerie> no fuogo
#673 [09:20] <fuogo> damn
#674 [09:20] <Valerie> the minecraft launcher does not know to look anywhere else
#675 [09:20] <fuogo> i do that
#676 [09:20] <dylanbarberdude> brb
#677 [09:20] <fuogo> brb to
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#679 [09:20] <dylanbarberdude> back
#680 [09:20] <Valerie> minecraft is a surprisingly demanding game lol
#681 [09:21] <dylanbarberdude> !check notch.tumblr.com:80
#682 [09:21] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#683 [09:21] <Valerie> but then again, java is a shitty language to program games in, optimization wise
#684 [09:21] <dylanbarberdude> yesh
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#686 [09:21] <dylanbarberdude> use c++ Notch
#687 [09:22] <dylanbarberdude> !check two.yogiverse.com
#688 [09:22] <dylanbarberdude> oh
#689 [09:22] <fuogo> canu exlain it again
#690 [09:22] <Valerie> well since I have a beefy PC,
#691 [09:22] <Valerie> I have no issues with framerate
#692 [09:22] <Valerie> oh yeah
#693 [09:22] <dylanbarberdude> !check Valerie beefy pc
#694 [09:22] <Valerie> fuogo, on your old PC, copy minecraft_launcher.exe
#695 [09:22] <Valerie> and the .minecraft folder
#696 [09:23] <fuogo> oke
#697 [09:23] <dylanbarberdude> i get 10 fps:(
#698 [09:23] <dylanbarberdude> crap pc
#699 [09:23] <Valerie> on your new PC, copy the .minecraft folder to C:/users/<Your account name>/AppData/Roaming/
#700 [09:23] <Valerie> and put the launcher anywhere you like
#701 [09:24] <Valerie> try the launcher
#702 [09:24] <dylanbarberdude> or just typw %appdata%
#703 [09:24] <dylanbarberdude> :p
#704 [09:24] <Valerie> and when you get the login error, just select play offline
#705 [09:24] <dylanbarberdude> !help
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#707 [09:24] <fuogo> oke thx mate
#708 [09:24] <dylanbarberdude> !motd
#709 [09:24] <Valerie> wait...he didn't tell us if it worked
#710 [09:24] <Valerie> XD
#711 [09:25] <dylanbarberdude> !paid AuBot
#712 [09:25] <dylanbarberdude> ..
#713 [09:25] <dylanbarberdude> !!!
#714 [09:25] <dylanbarberdude> !
#715 [09:25] <dylanbarberdude> !!
#716 [09:25] <dylanbarberdude> !!!
#717 [09:25] <dylanbarberdude> !!!!
#718 [09:26] <dylanbarberdude> !!!!!
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#720 [09:26] <dylanbarberdude> !!!!!!
#721 [09:26] <dylanbarberdude> a
#722 [09:26] <dylanbarberdude> aa
#723 [09:26] <dylanbarberdude> aaa
#724 [09:26] <Valerie> lol
#725 [09:26] <Valerie> !paid fuogo
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#727 [09:26] <dylanbarberdude> haha
#728 [09:27] <dylanbarberdude> !myip
#729 [09:27] <Valerie> I bet it's not his MC name tho
#730 [09:27] <Valerie> my MC account is actually ArcheKruz
#731 [09:27] <dylanbarberdude> !check irc.esper.net
#732 [09:27] <Valerie> !paid ArcheKruz
#733 [09:27] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#734 [09:27] <dylanbarberdude> !paid Notch
#735 [09:27] * AuBot kicked dylanbarberdude from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ylanbarberdude :Notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#736 [09:27] <Valerie> LOL
#737 [09:27] <Kaioshi> lol
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#739 [09:28] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#740 [09:28] * Valerie giggles
#740 [09:28] <Valerie> That was funny
#741 [09:28] <Valerie> !paid Honeydew
#742 [09:29] <dylanbarberdude> If Valerie is a girl i wink if not akward...
#743 [09:29] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#744 [09:29] <Valerie> hehe
#745 [09:29] <dylanbarberdude> hehe
#746 [09:30] <dylanbarberdude> !paid dylanbarberdude
#747 [09:30] <dylanbarberdude> :D
#748 [09:34] <dylanbarberdude> go to #mcmodhelp il op you
#749 [09:35] <dylanbarberdude> gtg
#750 [09:36] <vcordie> !paid KnightPerculiar
#751 [09:36] <vcordie> Spelled that wrong
#752 [09:36] <vcordie> Oh well
#753 [09:36] <vcordie> I wonder if they pay for every minecraft account or if some are just hamachi plus edited names
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#759 [09:40] <Kinetic95> hey i have a question, none of my downloaded texture packs is working right... always there is one block or more who is not shown right, here an example: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/mcproblem.jpg/ maybe someone can help?
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#762 [09:42] <hatman> i cant log in
#763 [09:42] <hatman> is er iemand nederlands ?
#764 [09:42] <Kinetic95> just a german..
#765 [09:42] <hatman> ik moet iets dowlooden
#766 [09:43] <hatman> its not dowloaded
#767 [09:43] <hatman> ?
#768 [09:44] <Kinetic95> hmm
#769 [09:45] <Kinetic95> have you tried to go to minecraft.net and download the game again?
#770 [09:45] <hatman> no i tried
#771 [09:46] <Kinetic95> then i dont know sry
#772 [09:48] <hatman> ok
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#775 [09:52] <guest-0-34503> Hey?
#776 [09:52] <guest-0-34503> ?
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#781 [10:03] <hatman> i cqant log in
#782 [10:03] <hatman> i hef no acc \
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#785 [10:24] <Cenvix> Hello
#786 [10:25] <Cenvix> o\\\\\\\\\\\\\\sdfghjk
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#788 [10:26] <darkaxel101> hello
#789 [10:27] <darkaxel101> who can help me
#790 [10:27] <darkaxel101> lukegb: you are the lucky one can you help me ?
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#806 [11:15] <ineedhelp> hello
#807 [11:16] <ineedhelp> do you know how i can download a minecraft folder?
#808 [11:17] <ineedhelp> ?????
#809 [11:17] <ineedhelp> can someone help me?
#810 [11:18] <ineedhelp> zippity?
#811 [11:20] <ineedhelp> ??
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#819 [11:33] <guest-0-66341> Are there any mods that can give me more colors? I've been looking for the past half hour and can't find anything. Oh, and by more colors, I mean A LOT more colors (doing pixel art).
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#823 [11:42] <mr_pants> hello
#824 [11:42] <mr_pants> i need some
#825 [11:42] <mr_pants> help
#826 [11:43] <mr_pants> can u help me?
#827 [11:43] <mr_pants> how can i get minecrfaft on an pc that doesnt got internet/network?
#828 [11:44] <mr_pants> can somebody help me plz
#829 [11:44] <Kaito> what do you mean "how can i get it on a pc"
#830 [11:44] <mr_pants> minecraft
#831 [11:44] <Kaito> You can download it
#832 [11:44] <Kaito> but since you dont have internet...that wont work
#833 [11:45] <Kaito> i guess you could ask a friend to put it on your flash drive, then install it off of there
#834 [11:45] <mr_pants> i got frends that doest got internet/network and can play minecraft
#835 [11:45] <Kaito> once minecraft is on your computer, you dont NEED internet to play, but you wont get updates, cant play online, etc
#836 [11:46] <mr_pants> oke
#837 [11:46] <Kaito> and, next time, just ask once
#838 [11:46] <Kaito> if someone is here, they will help
#839 [11:47] <Kaito> asking over and over again is (generally) not very polite
#840 [11:47] <mr_pants> but i cant play here on this pc cos he is to old and upstairs i got a pc thats from 2010 but dont got internet/network
#841 [11:47] <mr_pants> so
#842 [11:48] <mr_pants> how can i get minecraft on an usb and java on an usb and play it?
#843 [11:48] <Kaito> download minecraft on this computer, put it on a flash drive, and bring it up to your newer computer
#844 [11:49] <mr_pants> oke thx
#845 [11:49] <Kaito> you're welcome
#846 [11:50] <mr_pants> but how can i get java on an flash drive
#847 [11:50] <mr_pants> sorry im not so smart whit pc
#848 [11:50] <Kaito> if you dont have java on your other computer, you're pretty much SOL
#849 [11:50] <mr_pants> with
#850 [11:50] <Kaito> you should have java on your 2010 computer
#851 [11:51] <mr_pants> maby i got but i doest got an run....
#852 [11:51] <mr_pants> from java
#853 [11:51] <Kaito> i gotta go, bye
#854 [11:51] <mr_pants> jeje
#855 [11:51] <mr_pants> bya
#856 [11:51] <mr_pants> you still hereeee
#857 [11:51] <mr_pants> lol
#858 [11:52] <mr_pants> i have to shut up
#859 [11:53] <mr_pants> brb
#860 [11:59] <oldtopmanserver> mr_pants: What OS?
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#862 [12:00] <Newbieee> Heya guys
#863 [12:00] <Newbieee> can some one please me with a question about my server
#864 [12:00] <Newbieee> please help me*
#865 [12:00] <Newbieee> for the ModLoaderMP Server mod do i have to delete meta inf
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#868 [12:05] <guest-0-51925> Hello
#869 [12:05] <guest-0-51925> Can i get some help?
#870 [12:05] <Kaito> what do you need help with?
#871 [12:06] <guest-0-51925> Im having problems finding my libary folder
#872 [12:06] <guest-0-51925> Looking for application support
#873 [12:06] <guest-0-51925> How do i find it?
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#875 [12:06] <Kaito> im not sure, sorry
#876 [12:06] <Kaito> i dont mod minecraft :P
#877 [12:06] <guest-0-51925> Do you know if anyone else can help me?
#878 [12:07] <guest-0-51925> No it is an application support
#879 [12:07] <guest-0-51925> On a mac
#880 [12:07] <guest-0-51925> Nothing with mod todo
#881 [12:07] <Kaito> i BELIEVE that #risucraft is the channel you're looking for, but no gaurentees
#882 [12:08] <guest-0-51925> risucraft?
#883 [12:08] <Kaito> #risucraft, yes
#884 [12:08] <Kaito> all channels have the # before the name :P
#885 [12:08] <guest-0-51925> #risucraft Can you help me ?
#886 [12:08] <Kaito> lol
#887 [12:08] <Kaito> it's a channel
#888 [12:08] <Kaito> type /join #risucraft
#889 [12:08] <Kaito> with the /
#890 [12:08] <guest-0-51925> What?
#891 [12:10] <RobinJ24> /join #risucraft
#892 [12:10] <RobinJ24> type that
#893 [12:10] <Kaito> at first i was like 'WTF HOW DID YOU DO THAT', then i thought about it
#894 [12:10] <Kaito> :P
#895 [12:11] <RobinJ24> lol
#896 [12:11] <RobinJ24> two slashes
#897 [12:11] <Kaito> hm?
#898 [12:12] <Kaito> i was thinking you did /say /etc etc
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#901 [12:13] <Riley> need assistance..
#902 [12:14] <Kaito> Generally, it helps to say what you need help with
#903 [12:14] <Riley> no sound/music in the game... both sliders at 100%
#904 [12:14] <mariettagecko> Checked your sound drivers?
#905 [12:14] <Thejubro> #kaito no one is kinda helping me.. ?
#906 [12:14] <Kaito> lol, you dont need the # for nicknames
#907 [12:14] <Kaito> the # is for channel names
#908 [12:15] <Kaito> and, it was worth a shot
#909 [12:15] <Thejubro> Can anyone help me in here?
#910 [12:15] <Kaito> Im just lurking in here most of the time
#911 [12:15] <mariettagecko> Thejubro: you'll need to type /join #risucraft, then switch to that window.
#912 [12:15] <Thejubro> Yea but nobody helped me..
#913 [12:15] <Thejubro> They were mostly ignoring me.
#914 [12:15] <Riley> how am i suppose to check my sound drivers
#915 [12:16] <Thejubro> ignored*
#916 [12:16] <Kaito> they are volunteers: they aren't required to help you
#917 [12:16] <Kaito> they are there of their own free will, as am i
#918 [12:16] <Thejubro> Wtf!?
#919 [12:16] <Thejubro> I came here to get help..
#920 [12:16] <Thejubro> Wrong place?
#921 [12:16] <mariettagecko> Thejubro: you're not in there
#922 [12:16] <Thejubro> No i left.
#923 [12:17] <Kaito> Yes, i understand you came here to get help, and I tried to help you
#924 [12:17] <|Kiikun|> Thejubro: make sure your system sounds arnt muted.
#925 [12:17] <Thejubro> Yes kaito i appreciate that very much :)
#926 [12:17] <Kaito> I dont have all the answers, and if no one else is around, well then, that sucks
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#928 [12:17] <fuogo> hello i need help
#929 [12:17] <Kaito> -.-
#930 [12:17] <|Kiikun|> Thejubro: if you8 still dont have sound.. its probably openal borked and you need to reinstall/fix it... and im leaving for work so cant exactly help there.
#931 [12:17] <fuogo> guys where do i go for help/
#932 [12:18] <Thejubro> Sound?
#933 [12:18] <Thejubro> I do have sound?
#934 [12:18] <Kaito> kiikun, wrong person :P
#935 [12:18] <Riley> i have no sound
#936 [12:18] <|Kiikun|> oh.
#937 [12:18] <|Kiikun|> oops.
#938 [12:18] <Riley> lol
#939 [12:18] <fuogo> guys i need help
#940 [12:18] <Kaito> awesome
#941 [12:18] <Kaito> tell us what you need help with
#942 [12:18] <Thejubro> Could anyone help me with an mac problem?
#943 [12:18] <Kaito> then maybe we can help
#944 [12:18] <fuogo> my minecraft wont work
#945 [12:18] <|Kiikun|> sorry just woke up and am now running to work :/
#946 [12:18] <fuogo> it says
#947 [12:19] <fuogo> port is in use or something
#948 [12:19] <Kaito> can you tell us exactly what it says?
#949 [12:19] <fuogo> 1sec let me reload
#950 [12:20] <fuogo> on minecraft.servers from the site
#951 [12:20] <fuogo> it says failed to bind to port!
#952 [12:20] <Kaito> are you trying to host your own server?
#953 [12:20] <Thejubro> Anyone who can help with an mac problem?
#954 [12:20] <fuogo> prehaps a server is already running on that port
#955 [12:22] <fuogo> im pissed off now
#956 [12:22] <fuogo> i buy the game and it wont work
#957 [12:22] <mariettagecko> Thejubro: Perhaps if you described your mac problem, someone could possibly be of assistance.
#958 [12:22] <Kaito> fuogo: please tell us more info
#959 [12:22] <Kaito> "IT WONT WORK, THE PORT ISN'T BOUND" doesn't tell me much
#960 [12:22] <fuogo> my problem is it says cannot bind the ports
#961 [12:22] <Kaito> what ar eyou trying to do?
#962 [12:23] <Kaito> just log in?
#963 [12:23] <fuogo> ive logged in then it says
#964 [12:23] <fuogo> bad video card driver
#965 [12:23] <Kaito> what are you running minecraft on?
#966 [12:24] <fuogo> um idk my laptop?
#967 [12:24] <Kaito> like, what stats on your computer
#968 [12:24] <Kaito> sorry, did'nt clarify that
#969 [12:24] <Kaito> :P
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#971 [12:24] <Ryladine> Anyone waiting for assistance?
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#973 [12:25] <OggerMC> hello
#974 [12:25] <fuogo> 3gb ram
#975 [12:26] <OggerMC> my minecraft suddenly told me that im not a premium user anymore, what happend?
#976 [12:26] <Kaito> Ryladine: fuogo could use some assistance that i cannot provide
#977 [12:26] <Ryladine> Can you lot give me a sec? your delay made me start doing something lol
#978 [12:27] <fuogo> im guessing im never gonna play minecraft at this rate
#979 [12:27] <fuogo> so ive basicly just wasted 15 pounds
#980 [12:27] <mariettagecko> patience, please, fuogo.
#981 [12:27] <mariettagecko> We're all volunteers here.
#982 [12:28] <Kaito> ^
#983 [12:28] <Ryladine> fuogo: State your problem I will be with you as soon as I can
#984 [12:28] <fuogo> k
#985 [12:28] <OggerMC> uhm, do i have to write my problems to a person or just in the channel?
#986 [12:28] <RobinJ24> you should put in the topic that the people here can't read other people's mind
#987 [12:29] <mariettagecko> OggerMC: just in the channel.
#988 [12:29] <OggerMC> okay
#989 [12:30] <Riley> thanks for the help... sound working now
#990 [12:31] <OggerMC> at around 16 september i bought minecraft and was playing since then, and today when i tryed to login it tells me that im not premium, i even went to minecraft.net to check and it tells me to buy it (again).
#991 [12:33] <fuogo> hi anyone free to help me please
#992 [12:34] <fuogo> any free to help?
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#996 [12:42] <OggerMC> someone taking care of it already or how am i to know that something is happening?
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#998 [12:42] <mib_3xmulu> hello
#999 [12:43] <mib_3xmulu> can u help me/
#1000 [12:44] <Kaito> doing that will not get you help
#1001 [12:44] <helpmeplz> what will/
#1002 [12:44] <Kaito> changing your name to "helpmeplz"
#1003 [12:44] <Valerie> deleting system32 :P
#1004 [12:44] <helpmeplz> i meant wat will help me
#1005 [12:44] <Kaito> oh
#1006 [12:44] <Kaito> asking your question, then waiting patiently
#1007 [12:45] <hi> how do i get my minecraft to work
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#1009 [12:46] <Valerie> you register an account
#1010 [12:46] <Valerie> buy a key
#1011 [12:46] <Valerie> validate it
#1012 [12:46] <Valerie> download the launcher
#1013 [12:46] <Valerie> and run it
#1014 [12:46] <hi> my problem is the port wont bind and huh ^^
#1015 [12:46] <hi> i bought minecraft
#1016 [12:46] <Valerie> what's your account name?
#1017 [12:46] <Kaioshi> I keep thinking you're saying hi over and over
#1018 [12:46] <hi> done929
#1019 [12:46] <hi> sorry
#1020 [12:46] <Valerie> !paid done929
#1021 [12:47] <Valerie> port won't bind eh?
#1022 [12:47] <Valerie> where did you get this error?
#1023 [12:48] <hi> um on minecraft_server
#1024 [12:48] <hi> and when i load the actualy minecraft
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#1026 [12:48] <hi> logged in it said bad card or something
#1027 [12:48] <Ryladine> hi: Thats an indication that the port may already be in use, try killing all processes labeled "java.exe" and launching the server again
#1028 [12:49] <done929> ok thanks
#1029 [12:49] <Ryladine> Hello shadow
#1030 [12:49] * Ryladine cries
#1030 [12:50] <Ryladine> went for help on my own problem and they don't believe me when I tell them what it is
#1031 [12:50] <done929> umm theres none with java.exe
#1032 [12:50] <Ryladine> What port are you trying to use for your serveR?
#1033 [12:50] <done929> um let me check
#1034 [12:50] <OggerMC> !paid OgggerMC
#1035 [12:50] <OggerMC> eh?
#1036 [12:51] <Ryladine> Is that your correct minecraft username?
#1037 [12:51] <OggerMC> yes it is
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#1039 [12:51] <Ryladine> Let me point out that there were 3 g's in that
#1040 [12:51] <OggerMC> i couldnt use my real name "OggerMC" becouse of some error from free account or something so i hat to put 3g's
#1041 [12:51] <Ryladine> !paid OggerMC
#1042 [12:51] <Ryladine> Ah
#1043 [12:51] <oldtopmanserver> OggerMC: Creative mode?
#1044 [12:52] <OggerMC> but i was already playing like 3 weeks with my PAID account
#1045 [12:52] <Ryladine> Contact Mojang.
#1046 [12:52] <OggerMC> should i try re register it with my key?
#1047 [12:52] <done929> what the fuck i loaded minecraft.server and itwont stop loading things
#1048 [12:52] * AuBot kicked done929 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: one929 :Please keep it civil.)
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#1050 [12:53] <Ryladine> Nice.
#1051 [12:53] <done929> opps
#1052 [12:53] <Ryladine> lol
#1053 [12:53] <done929> didnt mean to
#1054 [12:53] <Ryladine> done929: What do you mean it won't stop loading things?
#1055 [12:55] <done929> source files
#1056 [12:55] <Ryladine> I'm still not certain what you mean.
#1057 [12:56] <done929> i dont know either
#1058 [12:56] <done929> on minecraft_server
#1059 [12:56] <Ryladine> You launched the server and it went into a loop of loading files?\
#1060 [12:56] <done929> yes
#1061 [12:56] <Ryladine> Restart it
#1062 [12:56] <done929> um k
#1063 [12:57] <OggerMC> how to conntact mojang? i couldnt find an email.
#1064 [12:57] <done929> it did it again
#1065 [12:57] <Ryladine> done929: What files does it say it's loading?
#1066 [12:58] <done929> source files
#1067 [12:58] <Ryladine> done929: Can you copy some of the output and put it on pastebin for me to look at?
#1068 [12:59] <done929> at na.b
#1069 [12:59] <Ryladine> mmm
#1070 [12:59] <done929> source files 1-3 odd
#1071 [12:59] <done929> 1-30 odd
#1072 [12:59] <done929> repeat constant
#1073 [12:59] <Ryladine> I remember that error.... let me see... a server restart should have fixed it though
#1074 [13:00] <done929> hohow do u server restart/
#1075 [13:00] <Ryladine> Simply closing the server, and re-opening it should work
#1076 [13:01] <done929> nothing
#1077 [13:01] <Ryladine> done929: Would you be against me taking control of your computer for a bit so I can get a look at it
#1078 [13:01] <done929> as long as u can get it sorted cos i dont want my mother knowing
#1079 [13:01] <done929> ive been asking her for 3weeks for it and i get and it wont work
#1080 [13:02] <OggerMC> how to contact Mojang?
#1081 [13:02] <Ryladine> done929: It's perfectly safe and you can override my control at any time, as well as terminate it. If you feel your mother would prefer you not use this method though I can work without it.
#1082 [13:02] <Ryladine> oggerMC: There should be an email somewhere in the support section of the site.
#1083 [13:02] <done929> teamviewer?
#1084 [13:03] <Ryladine> Done: yes that is what I was talking bout
#1085 [13:03] <OggerMC> i cant find a support on mojang, just a block
#1086 [13:03] <done929> ive used it before and i know i can end anytime
#1087 [13:03] <Ryladine> about*
#1088 [13:03] <OggerMC> blog*
#1089 [13:03] <Ryladine> ogger, give me a moment to look for you
#1090 [13:04] <OggerMC> http://www.formspring.me/MojangSupport is all i found on google
#1091 [13:05] <Ryladine> ogger, use this section of the site
#1092 [13:05] <Ryladine> http://www.minecraft.net/support
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#1094 [13:06] <OggerMC> okay thanks
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#1096 [13:08] <squiggy> Is squiggy there
#1097 [13:08] <squiggy> lol
#1098 [13:08] <mariettagecko> ummm.
#1099 [13:08] <mariettagecko> asking after yourself, eh?
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#1101 [13:08] <squiggy> i got a bit of a problem
#1102 [13:09] <squiggy> i've paid for the game yet it still says I'm not premium
#1103 [13:09] <RobinJ24> whats your username?
#1104 [13:09] <mariettagecko> squiggy: the username you paid under?
#1105 [13:10] <squiggy> yeah. it was qworking for a couple of months then it suddenly stopped
#1106 [13:10] <mariettagecko> !paid squiggy
#1107 [13:10] <mariettagecko> So that username wasn't the one you used. what was the username you used to pay for minecraft?
#1108 [13:10] <squiggy> Bakura2010
#1109 [13:10] <mariettagecko> !paid Bakura2010
#1110 [13:10] <mariettagecko> hmmm.
#1111 [13:11] <RobinJ24> squiggy: You're getting the User not premium error?
#1112 [13:11] <squiggy> yeah. It says that i can't get online, then when i try multiplayer, it says i'm not premium
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#1114 [13:12] <mib_ulc2e4> i have a texturepack installed and when i start minecraft it crashs and hs_err_pid comes to my desktop
#1115 [13:12] <mib_ulc2e4> what can i do ?
#1116 [13:12] <mariettagecko> Ahh... well, that's the problem. If you can't get online, but you're trying to check a server that requires you be premium, you can't connect until you have gotten online to set the premium flag in the game.
#1117 [13:13] <squiggy> It was perfect just a few months ago. I've changed internet prov iders since then. could that be the problem?
#1118 [13:14] <Matze> can someone help me ?
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#1120 [13:15] <mariettagecko> squiggy: The thing is, if you can't connect to the minecraft servers to verify your premium status, then you don't get the flag set and can't get onto any server which requires the flag be set.
#1121 [13:15] <RobinJ24> Matze I won't know until I know the problem
#1122 [13:15] <mariettagecko> It's possible that it's related to your network change.
#1123 [13:16] <squiggy> how can I fix this?
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#1125 [13:16] <Matze> i have a texturepack installed and when i start minecraft it crashs and hs_err_pid comes to my desktop
#1126 [13:17] <mariettagecko> Does anyone remember the test address for someone to try to go to to see if they can connect to mojang to verify paid?
#1127 [13:17] <mariettagecko> I don't recall it offhand.
#1128 [13:17] <mariettagecko> I know Vulpine has it.
#1129 [13:18] <mariettagecko> but he doesn't seem to be around.
#1130 [13:19] <mariettagecko> the awesome fish has it too, but I can't recall it.
#1131 [13:19] <mariettagecko> squiggy: basically, there's a web address to which you can go to test whether or not you can get to Mojang to verify your account. Unfortunately, I dont have that address at this time.
#1132 [13:21] <vcordie> ?haspad
#1133 [13:21] <vcordie> err
#1134 [13:21] <vcordie> ?haspaid
#1135 [13:21] <vcordie> ....fuck it.
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#1137 [13:21] <mariettagecko> I know about the !paid tool. That's not really helping, though.
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#1139 [13:21] <romanoX7> hi anyone here ?
#1140 [13:21] <romanoX7> i need help.. my account is not premium anymore
#1141 [13:21] <romanoX7> what the hell is going on
#1142 [13:22] <mariettagecko> Not premium anymore?
#1143 [13:22] <mariettagecko> where did you buy your premium account?
#1144 [13:22] <mariettagecko> that is, your key?
#1145 [13:22] <romanoX7> i got the gift code from my friend
#1146 [13:22] <mariettagecko> Do you know where he got the code from?
#1147 [13:22] <romanoX7> i think onlinekeystore
#1148 [13:22] <romanoX7> does that matter ?
#1149 [13:22] <Valerie> ...
#1150 [13:22] <Valerie> yes
#1151 [13:23] <mariettagecko> Find out if he got it from the Minecraft site, or if he got it from somewhere else.
#1152 [13:23] <Valerie> NEVER buy your keys from anywhere other than the minecraft website
#1153 [13:23] <romanoX7> somewhere else
#1154 [13:23] <romanoX7> onlinekeystore worked for me for every online game
#1155 [13:23] <mariettagecko> If he got it from anyplace other than the Minecraft site, then the key may be bad, and Mojang may invalidate the key at any time.
#1156 [13:23] <Valerie> I see minecraft keys on sale on ebay and I mmediately know that it's a scam waiting to happen
#1157 [13:24] <squiggy> thank you guys
#1158 [13:24] <Valerie> look
#1159 [13:24] <romanoX7> it was no scam because he plays since 9. september... but today when he tried to login he wasnt premium
#1160 [13:24] <OggerMC> ive bought my key on a online shop too, i always buy my key there and never had a problem once
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#1162 [13:24] <Matze> can you help me now with the hs_err_pid ?
#1163 [13:24] <OggerMC> but now its not premium anymore too :x
#1164 [13:24] <Valerie> unless mogang themselves endorse the store as the source of keys
#1165 [13:24] <Valerie> I would mark them all as shady
#1166 [13:24] <mariettagecko> romanoX7: the deal is this... Minecraft has the official keys. Minecraft currently has no authorized retailers of their keys.
#1167 [13:25] <Valerie> Yeah
#1168 [13:25] <Valerie> you will need to rebuy the keys directly from the Minecraft site
#1169 [13:25] <Valerie> you're pretty much screwed in this regard
#1170 [13:25] <mariettagecko> If you get a key from somewhere other than the Minecraft site, Mojang (the company which made minecraft) *MAY* invalidate any keys not bought from them.
#1171 [13:25] <Valerie> it's not may
#1172 [13:25] <Valerie> it's will
#1173 [13:26] <Valerie> the question is when
#1174 [13:26] <romanoX7> and where do onlinekeystore get all the keys ? they got a key generator or a Gandalf that can make one ?
#1175 [13:26] <mariettagecko> End result, it's possible that someone else sold a key that they didn't get from Minecraft, and the end result is that, unfortunately, you're pretty much screwed.
#1176 [13:26] <Valerie> Probably a keygen
#1177 [13:26] <mariettagecko> romanoX7: It doesn't really matter where they got the keys.
#1178 [13:26] <Valerie> Minecraft isn't that hard to crack
#1179 [13:26] <romanoX7> ok so i will crack minecraft now
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#1181 [13:26] <Valerie> no
#1182 [13:27] <romanoX7> i lost 10 euro to onlinekeystore
#1183 [13:27] <RobinJ24> lol romanoX7 Minecraft is not expensive at all
#1184 [13:27] <romanoX7> and i will not buy again
#1185 [13:27] <Valerie> then file a complaint to THEM
#1186 [13:27] <Valerie> not mojang
#1187 [13:27] <RobinJ24> I mean going to the movies or to McDonalds is usually more expensive
#1188 [13:27] <RobinJ24> than buying minecraft..
#1189 [13:27] <mariettagecko> romanoX7: Then perhaps you should contact them and complain to them. Otherwise, go to the Minecraft site and buy a good key directly from there, and you should be good.
#1190 [13:27] <Valerie> so instead of learning your lesson about not being gullible in online stores
#1191 [13:28] <Valerie> you're punishing mojang for your mistake?
#1192 [13:28] <romanoX7> i learned my lesson now.. never buy a game.. just crack it
#1193 [13:28] <mariettagecko> OggerMC: Where did you get your Minecraft key?
#1194 [13:28] <Valerie> romano
#1195 [13:28] <OggerMC> ive bought mine at bitporium
#1196 [13:28] <RobinJ24> romanoX7 It's your own fault for buying it from a site other than minecraft.net
#1197 [13:28] <Valerie> then do us a favor and gtfo
#1198 [13:28] <mariettagecko> so, not from the Minecraft.net site?
#1199 [13:28] <OggerMC> yeah, as stated above^^
#1200 [13:29] <RobinJ24> LOL oh I thought Valerie replied to OggerMC
#1201 [13:29] <mariettagecko> Then you're in the same boat with romanoX7.
#1202 [13:29] <Valerie> it was to Romanox7
#1203 [13:29] <RobinJ24> yeah I realized
#1204 [13:29] <OggerMC> i saw it myself since it was the same case
#1205 [13:29] <Valerie> yeah but ogger, you do not resolve to pirate games from now on
#1206 [13:29] <mariettagecko> It sounds like Mojang may have invalidated your key as well, so you probably need to complain to them and/or go to the Minecraft site and purchase a valid key there.
#1207 [13:30] <Valerie> also romano you are a liar
#1208 [13:30] <Valerie> frst you say that your friend got you the key
#1209 [13:30] <Ryladine> ?? java/version
#1210 [13:30] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1211 [13:30] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1212 [13:30] <OggerMC> i dont think these key were pirated
#1213 [13:30] <Valerie> now you're saying that the store screwed you out of 10 euros?
#1214 [13:30] <OggerMC> i kinda trust that shop, since i already spoke alot with the admin
#1215 [13:30] <Valerie> which is it?
#1216 [13:30] <Valerie> also minecraft is 15 euros
#1217 [13:31] <mariettagecko> OggerMC: which doesn't necessarily mean anything.
#1218 [13:31] <OggerMC> but i think he bought alot gift codes when they were in alpha (extremly cheap) and mojang didnt like it that way
#1219 [13:31] <Valerie> this is a lesson here
#1220 [13:31] <Valerie> there is no such thing as a free meal
#1221 [13:31] <mariettagecko> OggerMC: If they key didn't come from the Minecraft site, you may be out of luck.
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#1223 [13:32] <mariettagecko> It may be worth contacting Mojang to see what happened there.
#1224 [13:32] <OggerMC> ive already filled a support thingy to them to see what happens
#1225 [13:32] <Valerie> I don't
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#1227 [13:32] <Valerie> because that is one more set of hands a game key is passed on to
#1228 [13:33] <OggerMC> its not that minecraft would be expensiv to buy again, but i dislike the idea to buy it twice
#1229 [13:33] <mariettagecko> I suspect that the answer will be that the key is invalid because it didn't come from them, but it can't hurt to try.
#1230 [13:33] <Valerie> one more set of hands who could potentially redeem the keys for themselves, thens ell it to the customer anyways
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#1232 [13:33] <Valerie> or one more set of hands that has no guarantee that the keys are genuine
#1233 [13:33] <OggerMC> but realy, its almost like 1 month ago that i had regeistred it
#1234 [13:34] <Valerie> online key stores like these are inherently untrustworthy
#1235 [13:34] <Valerie> no matter how trustworthy the admin may seem
#1236 [13:34] <Valerie> because his employees could be the ones doing the screwing
#1237 [13:34] <Valerie> and it's near impossible to find out who did it
#1238 [13:35] <OggerMC> anyway, i got my answeres here so far, thanks and good day
#1239 [13:35] <Valerie> and most companies who issue the keys originally will not want to bother investigating the issue that deeply
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#1241 [13:36] <ThVortex> Has anyone run the minecraft client with Oracle's JRockit JVM? The 32bit JRockit version has support for 3GB heaps under Windows which the regular JVM does not seem to: http://blogs.oracle.com/jrockit/entry/how_to_get_almost_3_gb_heap_on_windows
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#1259 [14:02] <leaper> help, whenever i place a redstone torch its on and i cant seem to turn it off, running 181
#1260 [14:03] <huddler> hi, anyone having problems with java? trying to log in either installation nor browser works, it starts and then java crashes
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#1264 [14:07] <leaper> please, anyone? why cant i get my redstone torches to turn off
#1265 [14:09] <mariettagecko> leaper, how are you trying to turn it off?
#1266 [14:09] <mariettagecko> huddler, sounds like it may be helpful to uninstall all versions of java on your system, then reinstall java from java.sun.com
#1267 [14:11] <leaper> mariettagecko: uuh like this TWWTL where T is torch, W is wire and L is lever
#1268 [14:11] <huddler> already reinstalled java. same problem checked drivers updates drivers are up to date
#1269 [14:11] <leaper> the lever is on the side of the right torch, it turns off fine but wont turn off hte other
#1270 [14:12] <leaper> and the torches always try to turn themselves on again
#1271 [14:12] <mariettagecko> leaper, what java version have you got?
#1272 [14:12] <huddler> java 6 update 27
#1273 [14:12] <mariettagecko> Sorry, guys, that last question was directed to huddler
#1274 [14:12] <huddler> java tm
#1275 [14:12] <mariettagecko> cool.
#1276 [14:13] <huddler> i read somewhere i might need an older version of java to run minecraft
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#1278 [14:13] <leaper> back
#1279 [14:13] <leaper> uh server is running 6.20
#1280 [14:13] <mariettagecko> leaper: Sorry, that question was directed to Huddler, not to you.
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#1282 [14:14] <leaper> oh damn
#1283 [14:14] <mariettagecko> leaper: Unfortunately, I haven't tried that particular setup, myself. I know I haven't had a problem with torches turning off when playing with them, but perhaps I just haven't tested thoroughly enough. And at the moment, I can't check.
#1284 [14:16] <leaper> hm damnit
#1285 [14:16] <leaper> anyone who could check?
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#1288 [14:23] <ThVortex> huddler: I'm able to run Minecraft with Java 1.7
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#1290 [14:24] <ThVortex> You could also try downloading the latest DLLs from www.lwjgl.org and placing them in .minecraft/bin/natives
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#1293 [14:31] <bahner> Hey, can an admin help with regards to my sons account?
#1294 [14:32] <TheNoodle> Maybe, what's the problem?
#1295 [14:32] <bahner> We have the game working, but the password is forgotten.
#1296 [14:33] <bahner> When I try to have the password resent I get an "success" message on the webpage, but no email.
#1297 [14:33] <TheNoodle> Are you sure that was the email address linked to the account?
#1298 [14:33] <bahner> WHen I try to have the username sent, it states that the email isn't registered.
#1299 [14:33] <TheNoodle> Also, check your spam filters.
#1300 [14:33] <TheNoodle> Heh.
#1301 [14:33] <TheNoodle> Could I get the account name please?
#1302 [14:33] <bahner> Could I have registered without providing an email address to his account?
#1303 [14:33] <TheNoodle> Nope
#1304 [14:33] <bahner> I did check the spam filters :)
#1305 [14:33] <bahner> tspire is the account name.
#1306 [14:34] <TheNoodle> !paid tspire
#1307 [14:34] * TheNoodle pokes aubot
#1307 [14:34] <TheNoodle> One sec.
#1308 [14:34] <bahner> 'k
#1309 [14:36] <TheNoodle> Could you check the email address associated with the account now?
#1310 [14:36] <bahner> how do you mean? Ask to have the username resent?
#1311 [14:36] <TheNoodle> Nope, just check the email account you got the email confirmation sent to.
#1312 [14:37] <bahner> Ah, ok yes. Hang on-
#1313 [14:39] <bahner> Hrm, nothing yet. I believe it should be "tormod.spire@gmail.com"
#1314 [14:41] <TheNoodle> No account was registered using that address.
#1315 [14:41] <TheNoodle> :/
#1316 [14:41] <TheNoodle> Nor can I show you which email address was used.
#1317 [14:41] <bahner> I understand that.
#1318 [14:41] <bahner> Can I propose some more?
#1319 [14:41] <TheNoodle> Did you get a comfirmation email when you bought the game?
#1320 [14:45] <bahner> Not that I can find search through my email.
#1321 [14:45] <TheNoodle> Then you registered using a different email address.
#1322 [14:45] <bahner> Is it in fact registered to "Tormod Spire Bahner" ?
#1323 [14:46] <TheNoodle> That's not an email address.
#1324 [14:46] <bahner> No I meant, did I provide his name?
#1325 [14:46] <TheNoodle> I can't check :/
#1326 [14:46] <bahner> ALternatively, is there a way to extract the password from lastlogin?
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#1328 [14:47] <TheNoodle> If the password was saved by firefox etc then yes.
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#1330 [14:47] <bahner> I meant from ~/.minecraft/lastlogin
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#1332 [14:48] <RobinJ24> no bahner
#1333 [14:48] <bahner> Hm. ok. Then what should I do?
#1334 [14:49] <TheNoodle> I'd suggest emailing support@mojang.com
#1335 [14:50] <TheNoodle> Or whatever the support email is :/
#1336 [14:50] <bahner> Ok, thanks for the prompt help.
#1337 [14:50] <bahner> ;)
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#1348 [15:26] <_Espresso_> Can anyone tell me where I can go to ask about ingame content... i.e. a sunken ship i found in 1.8.1?
#1349 [15:26] <_Espresso_> the seed was calkingforcash i think
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#1353 [15:27] <skippydippy> !check 63.223.78.251:1337
#1354 [15:27] <skippydippy> :/
#1355 [15:34] <RobinJ24> it checks miencraft servrs=
#1356 [15:34] <skippydippy> yup
#1357 [15:34] <RobinJ24> !check mc.tux2mc.com
#1358 [15:34] <skippydippy> !check 63.223.78.251:1337
#1359 [15:34] <RobinJ24> woo
#1360 [15:34] <skippydippy> :/
#1361 [15:34] <skippydippy> awe
#1362 [15:34] <skippydippy> !check 63.223.78.251:1337
#1363 [15:34] <skippydippy> :D
#1364 [15:34] <skippydippy> 125 ms
#1365 [15:34] <skippydippy> :D
#1366 [15:35] <RobinJ24> =D
#1367 [15:35] <RobinJ24> that reminds me
#1368 [15:35] <RobinJ24> my friend played minecraft with over 1000 fps
#1369 [15:36] <skippydippy> lol
#1370 [15:36] <skippydippy> what graphics
#1371 [15:36] <RobinJ24> he put everything on Fast, Render distance tiny etc
#1372 [15:37] <RobinJ24> I think at one point he got 1100
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#1374 [15:38] <skippydippy> i mean graphics card
#1375 [15:39] <RobinJ24> um
#1376 [15:39] <guest-0-71685> hi everyone!
#1377 [15:39] <RobinJ24> He bought a new one that day
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#1380 [15:40] <RobinJ24> to play BF3 with high settings..
#1381 [15:40] <RobinJ24> ill ask
#1382 [15:40] <umbridge> hello?
#1383 [15:40] <umbridge> how can i create a lava survival server at classic?
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#1385 [15:40] <umbridge> need help! how can i create a lava survival server at classic!
#1386 [15:41] <xjigsawx> need help with connection issues please
#1387 [15:41] <guest-0-71685> anyone here who can help me with a "bad graphics driver" problem
#1388 [15:41] <RobinJ24> skippydippy: It's GTX 570
#1389 [15:41] <RobinJ24> guest-0-71685 you probably have to update your drivers
#1390 [15:41] <umbridge> who can tell me how to make a survival lava server? at mc classic?
#1391 [15:42] <guest-0-71685> i already did, its an intel g33 onboard graphic card with 384 mb
#1392 [15:43] <RobinJ24> and you updated your drivers after you got the error?
#1393 [15:43] <guest-0-71685> yes
#1394 [15:43] <xjigsawx> was able to connect to MC, now unable, get stuck on Connecting ... (after clicking join to server) then it idles on that, and about 15-20sec later, i get End of Stream
#1395 [15:43] <guest-0-71685> and then restarted the system
#1396 [15:45] <guest-0-71685> also tried to some adjustments in the intel graphics software
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#1399 [15:47] <skippydippy> !check 63.223.78.251:1337
#1400 [15:49] <xjigsawx> anyone got any ideas?
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#1404 [15:54] <sockmister> Hey
#1405 [15:54] <sockmister> What should I do, if my activation code got scammedD?
#1406 [15:54] <lansiir> ??> xjigsawx cant/connect
#1407 [15:55] <xjigsawx> nah, i could about 2-3 hours ago, then tried reconnecting, now i cant, i can login to the game
#1408 [15:55] <xjigsawx> but as soon as i try joiningv various servers
#1409 [15:55] <xjigsawx> i have the abov ementioned issue
#1410 [15:57] <xjigsawx> ive tried reinstalling java, reinstalling MC, resetting up my router
#1411 [15:57] <xjigsawx> none of which have worked.
#1412 [15:57] <sockmister> :(
#1413 [16:00] <ThVortex> xjigsawx: Who's internet provider are you on?
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#1415 [16:01] <xjigsawx> Optusnet
#1416 [16:01] <xjigsawx> i have Optusnet Cable and a pre paid USB key, with optus aswell, on the USB key i can get access, but not on the cable
#1417 [16:02] <xjigsawx> but on the cable i only have and issue with MC, no other games..
#1418 [16:02] <ThVortex> That sounds like something on their end? Do any of your MC servers use a different port number?
#1419 [16:04] <xjigsawx> i think they are all stock ports
#1420 [16:05] <ThVortex> Ok
#1421 [16:05] <xjigsawx> so u think maybe i should try server with different than stock port?
#1422 [16:05] <ThVortex> Yeah, just to see if the Optusnet cable connection is dropping connections on that port for some reason
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#1424 [16:05] <xjigsawx> u got a server Ip i could try?
#1425 [16:06] <uk2702> hi everyone!
#1426 [16:06] <ThVortex> xjigsawx: No, I don't have one available. sorry
#1427 [16:06] <xjigsawx> ok give me a sec, ill source one and try it
#1428 [16:06] <uk2702> is there anyone who can halp me with a "bad graphic driver" problem?
#1429 [16:07] <RobinJ24> Update your drivers
#1430 [16:07] <uk2702> i did that already
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#1432 [16:07] <RobinJ24> Even after you got the error?
#1433 [16:07] <RobinJ24> Everyone seems to get this problem lol...
#1434 [16:08] <uk2702> yeah!
#1435 [16:08] <TheNoodle> Iguana will know.
#1436 [16:08] <TheNoodle> :p
#1437 [16:08] <Iguana> He knows everything
#1438 [16:09] <TheNoodle> See?
#1439 [16:10] <xjigsawx> Seems you were correct, on other ports i can connect np, but if its a stock 25565 port, then fail.
#1440 [16:10] <RobinJ24> The great Minecraft god
#1441 [16:10] <ThVortex> Admins, is discussing proxy servers here ok? (since they could bypass ip bans? on a server)
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#1444 [16:11] <TheNoodle> Should be fine ThVortex.
#1445 [16:11] <ThVortex> xjigsawx: Are you on Windows?
#1446 [16:11] <Ryladine> hi noodle
#1447 [16:12] <xjigsawx> win7 64bit
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#1449 [16:12] * TheNoodle waves
#1449 [16:12] <Nuxxar> :(
#1450 [16:12] <TheNoodle> Did you end up sorting your static ip problem Ryladine?
#1451 [16:12] <Nuxxar> Any1 know what to do if my activation code got scammed
#1452 [16:12] <ThVortex> xjigsaw: Download and run: http://ultrasurf.us/downloads/ultravpn/v100.zip
#1453 [16:12] <TheNoodle> Don't buy from them again :p
#1454 [16:12] <TheNoodle> Nuxxar, how did you pay?
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#1456 [16:12] <Nuxxar> It's a long story
#1457 [16:12] <ThVortex> (it should disconnect/reconnect your IRC connection when you start it)
#1458 [16:12] <Nuxxar> Can you Pm here?
#1459 [16:13] <TheNoodle> You can
#1460 [16:13] <xjigsawx> im getting a security risk from that link
#1461 [16:13] <TheNoodle> Nuxxar, just double click my name.
#1462 [16:13] <ThVortex> http://ultrasurf.us/support.html
#1463 [16:13] <ThVortex> Apparently some anti-virus programs don't like it
#1464 [16:14] <ThVortex> When it's running, it looks like you have a PPP connection open with a 10.x.x.x address assigned. I've been able to play Minecarft through it without too much lag
#1465 [16:15] <ThVortex> That should work for the interim. Hopefully the 25565 port issue will get resolved by your ISP; if not, you'll have to bug them
#1466 [16:15] <xjigsawx> alright thanks for the help, have a good day :)
#1467 [16:15] <Ryladine> :o handing out vpn's? lol
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#1469 [16:16] <ThVortex> Not personally
#1470 [16:16] <Ryladine> lol
#1471 [16:16] <ThVortex> That's a public VPN designed for bypassing China's "great firewall"
#1472 [16:16] <Ryladine> LOL
#1473 [16:16] <ThVortex> If it works for China it should work for Minecraft too :)
#1474 [16:17] <Ryladine> I'll have to remember it, give it another year and I may be using it here in the US....
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#1476 [16:20] <Ryladine> :o Whos Iguana?
#1477 [16:20] <Ryladine> lol
#1478 [16:21] <TheNoodle> Thanks :p
#1479 [16:21] <TheNoodle> Iggy (hehe) is an old minecraft player.
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#1481 [16:23] <ThVortex> ?? bad graphic driver
#1482 [16:23] <mib_yda9e2> anyone here able to help me? I've just started playing today
#1483 [16:23] <Ryladine> Whats your problem mib?
#1484 [16:23] <ThVortex> ?? index
#1485 [16:23] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1486 [16:23] <mib_yda9e2> I was just wondering, on the UI, what the green blocks, and the things that look like corn dogs are.
#1487 [16:24] <TheNoodle> Green blocks = exp
#1488 [16:24] <TheNoodle> Corn dogs = hunger
#1489 [16:24] <steve> exp towards what?
#1490 [16:24] <steve> aaaah
#1491 [16:24] <TheNoodle> Exp isn't currenlty implemented :p
#1492 [16:24] <Ryladine> lol
#1493 [16:24] <steve> ah ok
#1494 [16:24] <steve> fair enough
#1495 [16:24] <ThVortex> ?? bad graphics driver
#1496 [16:24] <steve> so atm, the green blocks are "useless"
#1497 [16:24] <TheNoodle> Depending on the difficulty your game is set to hunger will do a few different things.
#1498 [16:24] <TheNoodle> Yep
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#1500 [16:25] <ThVortex> ?? opengl
#1501 [16:25] <TheNoodle> ThVortex, if you want to use vox and you aren't actually helping someone please do so in ##voxelhead
#1502 [16:26] <ThVortex> Ah ok. I was trying to do it via a /query and VoxelHead wasn't responding there
#1503 [16:27] <Ryladine> Anyone waiting for help?
#1504 [16:27] <TheNoodle> I am!
#1505 [16:27] <Ryladine> lol
#1506 [16:27] <TheNoodle> I've got this problem, I can't set a static ip in windows.
#1507 [16:27] <TheNoodle> ;)
#1508 [16:28] * Ryladine bits noodle
#1508 [16:28] <Ryladine> bites*
#1509 [16:28] <ThVortex> FYI. For people with the "bad graphics driver", I would suggest running the OpenGL Extensions Viewer (www.realtech-vr.com/glview/). For starters, it ought to report a higher OpenGL version than 1.1. It also has builtin GL tests you can run.
#1510 [16:28] <Ryladine> Three paragraphs in the bleeping computer IRC and no response :(
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#1512 [16:31] <gamakichi> yea every time i try to play minecraft i get a black window
#1513 [16:31] <Ryladine> gamakichi: Any errors?
#1514 [16:33] <gamakichi> idk i open the launcher window and everything seems legit until I actually try to enter a world. Then it show me the loading screen followed by black, then nothing.
#1515 [16:33] <guacamole> why does minecraft show as a virus 'new win32' with mcafee and is there anything i can do about it?
#1516 [16:33] <Ryladine> gamakichi: MAC?
#1517 [16:33] <gamakichi> yea, OS X.
#1518 [16:33] <Ryladine> gamakichi: Read the topic.
#1519 [16:35] <TheNoodle> guacamole, you can ignore it.
#1520 [16:35] <TheNoodle> :p
#1521 [16:35] <Ryladine> I didn't even notice guacamole's questions lol
#1522 [16:36] <TheNoodle> lol
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#1524 [16:37] <Ryladine> guacamole: To be more specific than TheNoodle, Mcafee is a excessively overprotective program that causes more problems than it's worth. It's protectiveness causes a great deal of false-positive results.
#1525 [16:37] <TheNoodle> Fine then. ^_^
#1526 [16:37] <Ryladine> Lol some people think we're hackers, its just nice to be specific.
#1527 [16:38] <TheNoodle> That is a point, teamviewer for example, a known hacking tool
#1528 [16:38] * TheNoodle nods knowingly
#1528 [16:38] <Ryladine> Quite, and all the resquests to turn off firewalls?
#1529 [16:38] <Ryladine> :)
#1530 [16:39] <gamakichi> where can i read it?
#1531 [16:39] <gamakichi> Were can i read it
#1532 [16:39] <Ryladine> None of us are hackers (probably) with the exclusion of wug, and I don't think he would hurt anyone. (probably)
#1533 [16:39] <gamakichi> were can i read it
#1534 [16:39] <Ryladine> Read what?
#1535 [16:39] <gamakichi> were
#1536 [16:39] <gamakichi> were
#1537 [16:39] <ThVortex> Some anti-viri like Symantec also automatically flag any "new" executable (new as in not out on the Internet very long; when enough people report the executable is legit, then the warning goes away)
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#1539 [16:40] <Ryladine> LOL I only just realized he was talking about the topic
#1540 [16:40] <Guest44168> how can i run this game? This is getting annoying
#1541 [16:40] <ThVortex> guacamole: You can submit minecraft at http://www.virustotal.com/ to get it scanned by every antivirus under the sun
#1542 [16:40] <Ryladine> Whats your problem guest?
#1543 [16:41] <Guest44168> every time i try to load a world i end up with a black window.
#1544 [16:41] <Ryladine> Guest44168: Lol. MAC?
#1545 [16:42] <Guest44168> thats OS X for ya
#1546 [16:42] <Ryladine> Guest44168: Your Gamakichi?
#1547 [16:42] <Guest44168> yea whatever dumb name they gave me
#1548 [16:42] <Ryladine> !topic
#1549 [16:42] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: topic [ Rules: http://www.minecraftirc.net/rules/minecrafthelp | Bug tracker: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang | We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues. | Minecraft 1.9-pre is released. We will not support it until its stable release ] ... changed [ DopeGhoti | Thu Sep 29 18:03:50 MST 2011 ] ... undo [ yes ]
#1550 [16:42] <Ryladine> Bah!
#1551 [16:42] <Ryladine> Wrong topic again
#1552 [16:43] <Ryladine> AuBot- Channel rules: http://www.minecraftirc.net/rules/minecrafthelp | ATTENTION TO ALL USERS RUNNING OS X 10.5.8 :: MINECRAFT WILL WORK AGAIN FOR YOU IN 1.9! Can't wait? Check out this: http://u.kealper.com/MBlr (NOTE: This link is a game modification, all support for it should be directed at the creator of it and not #MinecraftHelp.)
#1553 [16:43] <Ryladine> Noodle, know how to force aubot to repeat the topic?
#1554 [16:44] <Guest44168> will this mod f with my game?
#1555 [16:44] <Ryladine> There is no guarantee. All we know is that it is reported to fix the issue.
#1556 [16:44] <TheNoodle> Nope.
#1557 [16:44] <TheNoodle> How would I do that?
#1558 [16:44] <TheNoodle> :p
#1559 [16:44] <TheNoodle> hmm
#1560 [16:45] <Ryladine> That to me noodle?
#1561 [16:45] <Ryladine> Meh I'll ask kealper later
#1562 [16:46] <Guest44168> will i still get 1.9?
#1563 [16:46] <Ryladine> You should, yes.
#1564 [16:46] <TheNoodle> !motd
#1565 [16:46] <TheNoodle> Well that noticed me the topic.
#1566 [16:47] <TheNoodle> !motd Ryladine
#1567 [16:47] <Ryladine> Nope
#1568 [16:47] <TheNoodle> nah, went to me again :p
#1569 [16:47] <Ryladine> lol nah :)
#1570 [16:47] <Ryladine> !motd
#1571 [16:47] <TheNoodle> it's weird, it's noticing me via query.
#1572 [16:47] <Ryladine> That is the right one though
#1573 [16:47] <Ryladine> !motd help
#1574 [16:48] <Guest44168> so all I have to do is download from kealper and Ill b able to play?
#1575 [16:48] <Ryladine> Guest44168: I have no idea. Give me a moment to download it and see what it is.
#1576 [16:48] <Kealper> rawr
#1577 [16:49] <Kealper> it's a shortened link, iirc
#1578 [16:49] <Ryladine> Yes lol
#1579 [16:49] <Ryladine> Hello kealper, did you come to a ping? If so, sorry :)
#1580 [16:49] <Kealper> more like 3 pings lo
#1581 [16:49] <Kealper> lol
#1582 [16:49] * Ryladine needs to remember to break the names
#1582 [16:50] * TheNoodle slaps Ryladine.
#1582 [16:50] <Ryladine> :(
#1583 [16:51] <Ryladine> Guest44168: I've looked at the mod, it's no different than any other.
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#1585 [16:52] <Ryladine> Guest44168: Open your minecraft.jar like a .rar or .7zip file and drag and drop the contents of the mod into it. Then delete your meta-inf and run minecraft.
#1586 [16:54] <Guest44168> i cant compress the minecraft.jar
#1587 [16:55] <TheNoodle> Don't compress it.
#1588 [16:55] <TheNoodle> Just open it with winrar
#1589 [16:55] <TheNoodle> Delete meta-inf, drop the files in, and close winrar.
#1590 [16:56] <Guest44168> so i opened my bin and i have the mod open. i dont know what to do now. ive never had to mad minecraft before
#1591 [16:56] <TheNoodle> ??> Guest44168 teamviewer
#1592 [16:56] <VoxelHead> Guest44168: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1593 [16:56] <VoxelHead> Guest44168: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1594 [16:56] <Valerie> open minecraft.jar as a zip file
#1595 [16:58] <Guest44168> Valerie then what,
#1596 [16:58] <Nuxxar> I can't connect to minecraft, why?
#1597 [16:58] <Valerie> open the zip file of the mod pack
#1598 [16:58] <Valerie> drag all the contents of the mod pack into the minecraft.jar
#1599 [16:58] <TheNoodle> Nuxxar, we need more details than minecraft can't connect. What are you trying to connect with and what error are you recieving?
#1600 [16:58] <Valerie> as in the window of the minecraft.jar opened as a zip
#1601 [16:59] <Valerie> say yes to any prompts
#1602 [16:59] <Nuxxar> Minecraft launcher
#1603 [16:59] <Valerie> then delete the meta-inf in the archive
#1604 [16:59] <Guest44168> ight ill chat u again if i need help
#1605 [16:59] <Nuxxar> I try to login and it says "Can't connect to minecraft"
#1606 [16:59] <Nuxxar> minecraft.net
#1607 [17:00] <TheNoodle> You'll need to allow minecraft and java through your firewall.
#1608 [17:00] <Nuxxar> Ok
#1609 [17:01] <Guest44168> how do i delete the meta-inf
#1610 [17:01] <Nuxxar> I did, doesn't work
#1611 [17:02] <TheNoodle> Right click and select delete.
#1612 [17:02] <Nuxxar> Did
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#1614 [17:02] <Guest44168> i cant find it. otherwise i wouldn't have a problem.
#1615 [17:02] <TheNoodle> Not you nuxxar :p
#1616 [17:02] <Nuxxar> Oh
#1617 [17:02] <Nuxxar> Already deleted
#1618 [17:02] <Nuxxar> lmao
#1619 [17:03] <Guest44168> lol
#1620 [17:03] <Nuxxar> The launcher doesn't work for me
#1621 [17:03] <TheNoodle> For the moment, play in browser.
#1622 [17:03] <Nuxxar> Kk
#1623 [17:03] <cookiemonster> Does anybody know how to fix the black screen problem?
#1624 [17:03] <Valerie> cookiemonster : take a fridge magnet and rub it on your hard drive :P
#1625 [17:03] <Valerie> nah j/k
#1626 [17:04] <TheNoodle> Valerie, I've had people do that, probs best not to suggest it.
#1627 [17:04] <Valerie> the solution is simple
#1628 [17:04] <lastelemental> lol
#1629 [17:04] <cookiemonster> no really do you how to fix it
#1630 [17:04] <Valerie> just back up the saves folder within the minecraft install to back up your worlds, making sure they do not require mods to load in the first place
#1631 [17:04] <Valerie> then delete everything else in your minecraft folder
#1632 [17:04] <Nuxxar> Ahh
#1633 [17:05] <Nuxxar> the browser one is laggy
#1634 [17:05] <cookiemonster> tnx ill see if that helps
#1635 [17:05] <Valerie> that should give you a fresh install of minecraft but with your worlds saved
#1636 [17:05] <Valerie> then start reinstalling your mods one by one
#1637 [17:05] <TheNoodle> Nuxxar, you've been screwed around enough already :p want me to just teamviewer and do it for you?
#1638 [17:05] <Valerie> backing up your minecraft.jar with each mod making sure they do not break the game before procceeding
#1639 [17:06] <cookiemonster> sorry im still new to minecraft how do you reach the saves folder?
#1640 [17:07] <Valerie> go to your account folder
#1641 [17:07] <Valerie> then appdata/roaming/.minecraft
#1642 [17:08] <cookiemonster> 1 sec let me try that
#1643 [17:08] <Nuxxar> Umm
#1644 [17:08] <Nuxxar> wel
#1645 [17:08] <Nuxxar> well
#1646 [17:08] <Valerie> the saves folder is what you want to back up before nuking and reinstalling with the launcher
#1647 [17:08] <Nuxxar> Minecraft launcher just doesn't work
#1648 [17:08] <cookiemonster> that didnt work
#1649 [17:08] <Valerie> moves the saves folder to the desktop
#1650 [17:09] <cookiemonster> i cant find my account foldere
#1651 [17:09] <Valerie> delete everything in the .minecraft directory
#1652 [17:09] <Valerie> ahh... okay
#1653 [17:09] <Valerie> go to your start menu
#1654 [17:09] <Valerie> and int he search box type in %appdata%
#1655 [17:09] <cookiemonster> k
#1656 [17:09] <Valerie> that should take you straight to the folder where you can see .minecraft
#1657 [17:10] <cookiemonster> k its loading
#1658 [17:11] <TheNoodle> Nuxxar, Download teamviewer.
#1659 [17:11] <TheNoodle> ??> Nuxxar teamviewer
#1660 [17:11] <VoxelHead> Nuxxar: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1661 [17:11] <VoxelHead> Nuxxar: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1662 [17:11] <Nuxxar> My launcher has never worked
#1663 [17:11] <Nuxxar> :[
#1664 [17:11] <cookiemonster> cant i just go to run type in %appdata% then it will show up cause ive done that before
#1665 [17:11] <TheNoodle> Nuxxar, once again, download teamviewer.
#1666 [17:11] <TheNoodle> You can cookiemonster.
#1667 [17:11] <cookiemonster> k
#1668 [17:12] <cookiemonster> k im at the .minecraft folder
#1669 [17:12] <cookiemonster> now what
#1670 [17:12] <TheNoodle> delete the folder called 'bin'
#1671 [17:12] <Nuxxar> I thinks there is nothing that you could do bout it
#1672 [17:12] <Nuxxar> think
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#1674 [17:13] <cookiemonster> thats not there
#1675 [17:13] <Nuxxar> Just tell me and I'll do it
#1676 [17:13] <Nuxxar> I'm good with computers
#1677 [17:13] <cookiemonster> sorry yes it is
#1678 [17:13] <cookiemonster> i deletd it
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#1681 [17:13] <Jetlags> Hi guys.
#1682 [17:13] <Valerie> now run the launcher again
#1683 [17:13] <cookiemonster> ok
#1684 [17:13] <Valerie> it should download a fresh copy of the bin folder
#1685 [17:13] <cookiemonster> do i need to force update
#1686 [17:14] <Valerie> no need
#1687 [17:14] <cookiemonster> k
#1688 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxar - Pull up your browser, can you connect to https://login.minecraft.net?
#1689 [17:14] <Valerie> just click yes if they ask you to update
#1690 [17:14] <Rain> Does anyone have a minecraft reinstaller link
#1691 [17:14] <Nuxxar> Can't
#1692 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Rain - minecraft.net/download?
#1693 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxar - Does it say anything?
#1694 [17:14] <Nuxxar> Bad login
#1695 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxar - Right, that means you can.
#1696 [17:14] <Nuxxar> Doesn't work
#1697 [17:14] <Rain> no my laptop crashed and now i can't play minecraft
#1698 [17:15] <cookiemonster> do i need to put the render distance to tiny
#1699 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxar - What firewall do you run?
#1700 [17:15] <Nuxxar> Minecraft launcher says " Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#1701 [17:15] <cookiemonster> or any thing like that
#1702 [17:15] <Nuxxar> Zone alarm
#1703 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxar - Disable it to test
#1704 [17:15] <Nuxxar> Yes sir
#1705 [17:15] <lastelemental> render distance is just how far you can see in the game
#1706 [17:15] <cookiemonster> i no but my computer is slow
#1707 [17:16] <Jetlags> I'm going to assume there isn't going to be a real break in conversation, so I'll ask now. I'm trying to update a server fro 1.9.2, and I have the 1.9.2 server jar in a folder, but it's generating a fresh world rather than the one I previously was using. I want to get a skybox map, but it generates from a random seed
#1708 [17:16] <cookiemonster> my screen is white
#1709 [17:16] <lastelemental> then changing RD to tiny would help increase fps
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#1711 [17:16] <Nuxxarr> Works now
#1712 [17:17] <Nuxxarr> Zone alarm was blocking it
#1713 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Zonealarm's a frequent problem around these parts
#1714 [17:17] <Nuxxarr> Yh
#1715 [17:17] <Nuxxarr> What should I download
#1716 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to configure it to allow java/minecraft through
#1717 [17:17] <Valerie> jetlags : wait until the official 1.9 release
#1718 [17:17] <Rain> when ever i try to play i keep getting a fatal error message
#1719 [17:17] <Jetlags> So there isn't a way, then? I'll just have to wait until the 18th?
#1720 [17:17] <cookiemonster> now the program is not responding
#1721 [17:17] <Valerie> probably
#1722 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Were you using any HD texture packs?
#1723 [17:18] <cookiemonster> no
#1724 [17:18] <Valerie> preview builds are quite unstable and buggy
#1725 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - No custom texture packs at all?
#1726 [17:18] <Valerie> and that is because you're playing what essentially is, a beta of a beta
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#1728 [17:18] <Jetlags> alright, well thanks
#1729 [17:18] <cookiemonster> no i could never play minecraft because of the black screen
#1730 [17:18] <Nuxxarr> Minecraft crashes when I try to join a server
#1731 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Ah.. what operating system are you on?
#1732 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxar - crashes how? do you get any error reports?
#1733 [17:19] <cookiemonster> what does that mean
#1734 [17:19] <Nuxxarr> Freezes
#1735 [17:19] <lastelemental> Windows or Mac
#1736 [17:19] <Nuxxarr> I have to close it from the processes
#1737 [17:19] <Rain> I think the link is like moogly.dnsdojo.net
#1738 [17:19] <cookiemonster> i have windows
#1739 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Please give us a dxdiag
#1740 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> ??> cookiemonster win/dxdiag
#1741 [17:19] <VoxelHead> cookiemonster: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1742 [17:19] <VoxelHead> cookiemonster: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1743 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxar - On any server? Are you able to play minecraft at all in SP?
#1744 [17:20] <Nuxxarr> SP works
#1745 [17:20] <Nuxxarr> The server worked in browser
#1746 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxar - Hmm. Zonealarm's been known to cause all sorts of trouble, even when 'disabled'
#1747 [17:21] <cookiemonster> this whole page just popped up
#1748 [17:21] <Nuxxarr> Yeah
#1749 [17:21] <cookiemonster> what do i do
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#1751 [17:21] <Nuxxarr> What is the programs that I can delete firewall with
#1752 [17:21] <Nuxxarr> completely
#1753 [17:21] <guest-786011-67247> whats the irc for bukkit ?
#1754 [17:21] <TheNoodle> #bukkit
#1755 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxarr - I'd try a full and complete uninstall/reinstall of java... but I have a strong feeling it's zonealarm
#1756 [17:21] <guest-786011-67247> hey noodle
#1757 [17:21] <guest-786011-67247> and thank you
#1758 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> You can uninstall zonealarm through window's control panel
#1759 [17:22] <cookiemonster> there are differenyt opsons
#1760 [17:22] <Jetlags> I want to revert my mc client to 1.8 from 1.9.2. Is there a way to do that?
#1761 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes, Force Update through the launcher
#1762 [17:22] <Rain> I keep getting a failed to launch message
#1763 [17:22] <Jetlags> where's the force update button
#1764 [17:23] <lastelemental> in options on the login screen
#1765 [17:23] <Jetlags> aha, thanks!
#1766 [17:24] <Nuxxarr> Ahh
#1767 [17:24] <Nuxxarr> I got an error
#1768 [17:24] <Nuxxarr> After a while
#1769 [17:24] <cookiemonster> im still getting the black screen
#1770 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxarr - What error?
#1771 [17:24] <Nuxxarr> Wait a sex
#1772 [17:24] <Nuxxarr> sec
#1773 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Still waiting on that dxdiag
#1774 [17:25] <cookiemonster> i dont know what to do on that thing
#1775 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#1776 [17:25] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1777 [17:25] <Nuxxarr> It says
#1778 [17:25] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1779 [17:25] <Nuxxarr> Connection Lost
#1780 [17:25] <Nuxxarr> End of stream
#1781 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxarr - I'm almost 100% sure it's zonealarm screwing with minecraft's connection to the server
#1782 [17:26] <Nuxxarr> Yh
#1783 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Zonealarm's got a bad rep around here for doing that.
#1784 [17:26] <Nuxxarr> What is good free firewall
#1785 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Honestly, you got a good router, a software firewall gives you no additional benefit.
#1786 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Software firewalls can be easily disabled.
#1787 [17:28] <cookiemonster> i cant find anything that i can copie into pastebin
#1788 [17:28] <lastelemental> ya hardware always trumps software
#1789 [17:29] <cookiemonster> what is pastebin
#1790 [17:29] <lastelemental> www.pastebin.com
#1791 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Did you press the "save all information" button in dxdiag?
#1792 [17:29] <cookiemonster> yes
#1793 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Where did you save the file to?
#1794 [17:29] <cookiemonster> dxdiag i think
#1795 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Where.. did you save the file?
#1796 [17:30] <cookiemonster> dxdiag
#1797 [17:30] <cookiemonster> thats where
#1798 [17:30] <lastelemental> did you save it to the desktop?
#1799 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Not what you named it, but where on your computer did you save it?
#1800 [17:30] <{unimatrix}> hello
#1801 [17:30] <{unimatrix}> were having a weird problem
#1802 [17:30] <cookiemonster> ill do it again cause i didn't know what to do
#1803 [17:30] <lastelemental> hello
#1804 [17:30] <{unimatrix}> we lagged out of our servers
#1805 [17:30] <{unimatrix}> and now we cant connect to any of them
#1806 [17:30] <{unimatrix}> not even localhost servers
#1807 [17:31] <{unimatrix}> internal client error
#1808 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin.com the error(s)?
#1809 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Does the server see the connection?
#1810 [17:31] <{unimatrix}> nope
#1811 [17:31] <{unimatrix}> i cant pastebin the error
#1812 [17:31] <{unimatrix}> i can take a screenshot thougjh
#1813 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> You're getting the error on the client's side?
#1814 [17:32] <{unimatrix}> yes
#1815 [17:32] <lastelemental> imgur it
#1816 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> What's the full error?
#1817 [17:32] <{unimatrix}> and im not the only one
#1818 [17:32] <{unimatrix}> im uploadinhg
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#1823 [17:33] <{unimatrix}> http://www.worldofterra.com/uploads/mcerror.JPG
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#1825 [17:33] <{unimatrix}> [23:33:18] <+{unimatrix}> http://www.worldofterra.com/uploads/mcerror.JPG
#1826 [17:33] <{unimatrix}> [23:33:22] <+{unimatrix}> you guys getting this right?
#1827 [17:33] <{unimatrix}> [23:33:24] * Joins: slide
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#1829 [17:33] <cookiemonster> I dont know what to save the dxdiag to
#1830 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Save it on your desktop
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#1832 [17:34] <{unimatrix}> lol
#1833 [17:34] <srsfiter> so
#1834 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> {unimatrix} - You guys got the right IP of the server?
#1835 [17:34] <srsfiter> I cant get on any server atm
#1836 [17:34] <{unimatrix}> its my own server
#1837 [17:34] <srsfiter> nor can my friend
#1838 [17:34] <{unimatrix}> http://www.worldofterra.com/uploads/mcerror.JPG
#1839 [17:34] <{unimatrix}> srs that error?
#1840 [17:34] <slide> i cant seem to get on p or c.nerd.nu right now =\
#1841 [17:34] <lastelemental> uni stop posting it
#1842 [17:34] <srsfiter> yessir
#1843 [17:34] <srsfiter> last
#1844 [17:34] <cookiemonster> to my documents?
#1845 [17:34] <srsfiter> hes trying to help
#1846 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Anywhere you can get to
#1847 [17:35] <cookiemonster> k
#1848 [17:35] <srsfiter> yes uni thats the error
#1849 [17:35] <{unimatrix}> see
#1850 [17:35] <{unimatrix}> i r not alone !
#1851 [17:35] <lastelemental> i know i was just saying to stop posting it
#1852 [17:35] <{unimatrix}> bukkit channel is full of it
#1853 [17:35] <srsfiter> I didnt see it?
#1854 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, you're right..
#1855 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> I can't connect to any servers either
#1856 [17:35] <lastelemental> sry
#1857 [17:35] <cookiemonster> i saved it now what
#1858 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Go to that file, open it up. Copy everything inside
#1859 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it there, then give us the URL to it
#1860 [17:36] <srsfiter> yeh
#1861 [17:36] <ThVortex> I can't connect either. That means minecraft.net accepts the client login but it's not accepting any connections from the servers which try to verify your username is legit
#1862 [17:37] <cookiemonster> i copied it
#1863 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it there, then give us the URL to it
#1864 [17:37] <srsfiter> is it only bukkit ones?
#1865 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> srsfiter - Seems like every server
#1866 [17:37] <srsfiter> k
#1867 [17:38] <cookiemonster> how do i give the URL
#1868 [17:38] <nipper> So are MC Auth servers down?
#1869 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Did you press the submit button at pastebin after pasting the text in the text box there?
#1870 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> nipper - Appears so
#1871 [17:38] <nipper> sad. K thanks Thought it was just me.
#1872 [17:38] <Calinou> !isdown
#1873 [17:38] <GreyBot> Calinou: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1874 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> ~minecraft down
#1875 [17:38] <cookiemonster> no
#1876 [17:38] <Calinou> wtf
#1877 [17:38] <nipper> isdown only checks the site.
#1878 [17:38] <Calinou> it is up?
#1879 [17:39] <Calinou> oh
#1880 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1881 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> The website is up
#1882 [17:39] <ThVortex> The website and the client side login is up
#1883 [17:39] <lastelemental> copy it then paste the url here
#1884 [17:39] <Calinou> yes... when I login to a server
#1885 [17:39] <ThVortex> But the server side check to minecraft.net is not working
#1886 [17:39] <Calinou> the game crashes
#1887 [17:39] <nipper> the site is not the issue. It's there Auth servers they use to varify the user thats logged in that its legit or not.
#1888 [17:39] <Calinou> SP works fine
#1889 [17:39] <cookiemonster> GreyVulpine i didnt yet
#1890 [17:39] <srsfiter> if the site is up
#1891 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Could you do that?
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#1893 [17:39] <srsfiter> you can login to the client
#1894 [17:39] <cookiemonster> sure
#1895 [17:39] <srsfiter> as the database is basically off the site ;3
#1896 [17:40] <nipper> You can login. But the MC server it self can not varify if you logged in a legit account.
#1897 [17:40] <cookiemonster> do i need to add a captcha
#1898 [17:40] <lastelemental> no
#1899 [17:40] <Skulldoor> Hey! Quick question folks. I'm trying to log into my locally hosted server and it sits there for a while and then times out. Anyone else having this problem and/or know what is going on?
#1900 [17:40] <srsfiter> yes skull
#1901 [17:40] <srsfiter> we have all established the issue
#1902 [17:40] <srsfiter> your not alone
#1903 [17:40] <nipper> There auth servers are down. Put it in offline for not till there back up.
#1904 [17:40] <srsfiter> AC auth are down
#1905 [17:40] <srsfiter> ye
#1906 [17:41] <Skulldoor> Snazzy cakes. Thanks for the info fellas. Take it easy
#1907 [17:41] <nipper> I mean for now.
#1908 [17:41] <cookiemonster> GreyVulpine i submited the thing
#1909 [17:42] <cookiemonster> greyvulpine
#1910 [17:42] <cookiemonster> hello
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#1912 [17:42] <wanna> whats wrong with minecraft.net
#1913 [17:43] <TheNoodle> parts of it appear to be offline.
#1914 [17:43] <wanna> lol
#1915 [17:43] <wanna> this sucks
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#1918 [17:43] <cookiemonster> GreyVulpine i submited the thing
#1919 [17:43] <wanna> good
#1920 [17:43] <TheNoodle> cookiemonster, did you submit something to pastebin?
#1921 [17:44] <cookiemonster> ya
#1922 [17:44] <wanna> damn it notch
#1923 [17:44] <dxtr> O hai! I'm running the latest server software and the server is really spiking my CPU with no players or anything. Got 8GB of RAM (1GB allocated to Minecraft)
#1924 [17:44] <TheNoodle> You need to paste the url of the page it takes you to.
#1925 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - What is the address to it?
#1926 [17:44] <dxtr> What could be the problem?
#1927 [17:44] <wanna> allocate more ram
#1928 [17:44] <cookiemonster> i dont now i do i see that
#1929 [17:44] <dxtr> It just happened over night. It worked flawlessly yesterday
#1930 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> dxtr - New map? Old map?
#1931 [17:44] <wanna> what cpu do u have?
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#1933 [17:44] <dxtr> GreyVulpine: Created the map yesterday
#1934 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> dxtr - Try just moving the current map out and generating a new one, see if you still see spikes
#1935 [17:44] <wanna> what processor do u have
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#1937 [17:45] <cookiemonster> GreyVulpine how to i see the address
#1938 [17:45] <Jackson413> !isdown
#1939 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - What is the address in the address bar of your browser?
#1940 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/121701708693909504
#1941 [17:45] <GreyBot> Jackson413: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1942 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> mollstam's on it
#1943 [17:45] <lastelemental> look at the url of the page
#1944 [17:45] <TheNoodle> It should be at the top of your browser cookiemonster
#1945 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> "Rebooting server joining system."
#1946 [17:45] * mib_nm4j76 [mib_nm4j76@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1947 [17:45] <mib_nm4j76> hi
#1948 [17:45] <dxtr> wanna: I'm embarassed to say, but AMD Turion II Neo N40L (1.6GHz dual-core). I was thinking that'd be enough for two players or so :)
#1949 [17:46] <cookiemonster> GreyVulpine http://pastebin.com/wNyay3LE
#1950 [17:46] <mib_nm4j76> is minecraft updating or somthing?
#1951 [17:46] <wanna> lol
#1952 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_nm4j76 - http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/121701708693909504
#1953 [17:46] <mib_nm4j76> cause i cant connect to any minecraft servers
#1954 [17:46] <mib_nm4j76> any ideas?
#1955 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Just the server side auth is down. Web admin is rebooting it
#1956 [17:46] <dxtr> wanna: No, it's not a laptop. No, it's not a workstation. It's a server I have here
#1957 [17:46] <wanna> I run one with a AMD turrion X2
#1958 [17:46] <cookiemonster> GreyVulpine http://pastebin.com/wNyay3LE
#1959 [17:46] <wanna> 2.2 ghz
#1960 [17:46] <wanna> dual core and it works frine
#1961 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - I see it. just wait
#1962 [17:47] <wanna> fine*
#1963 [17:47] <Jackson413> ah ok
#1964 [17:47] <dxtr> wanna: I've set the limit to 10 players, I've even tried with 4GB of ram
#1965 [17:47] <mib_nm4j76> so minecraft is updating?
#1966 [17:47] <wanna> lol
#1967 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_nm4j76 - No. just maintenance.
#1968 [17:47] <Jackson413> OMGZORZZZ MINECRAFT IS DOWN FOR A SECOND WE'RE GUNNA DYE!!!
#1969 [17:47] <mib_nm4j76> how long will it be?
#1970 [17:47] <mib_nm4j76> any ideas :D
#1971 [17:47] <wanna> can someone kick jackson for all caps spam
#1972 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_nm4j76 - Few minutes
#1973 [17:47] <mib_nm4j76> oh okay
#1974 [17:47] <mib_nm4j76> thanks so much
#1975 [17:47] <dxtr> wanna: I'm even running it off a RAM disk that I created for this purpose
#1976 [17:48] <Jackson413> lmao
#1977 [17:48] <dxtr> Set up a cron job to rsync everything every 20 minutes or so
#1978 [17:48] <wanna> How many of you cores do are you allowing java to use/
#1979 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft server doesn't really take advantage of multiple cores
#1980 [17:48] <wanna> lol
#1981 [17:48] <Jackson413> what does the minecraft server joining system consist of?
#1982 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - The auth side of the server joining process
#1983 [17:49] <Jackson413> i mean like what kinda computer we talking about?
#1984 [17:49] <cookiemonster> GreyVulpine can i close all the other stuff open like that dxdiag thing
#1985 [17:49] <Jackson413> throw some specs at me
#1986 [17:49] <{unimatrix}> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/internal_client_error_java_net_connect_exception_connection_refused_connect
#1987 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Jackson413 - Everything on Mojang's system is hosted on Amazon's cloud.
#1988 [17:49] <TheNoodle> Jackson413, the amazong cloud I believe.
#1989 [17:49] <TheNoodle> hehe, amazong.
#1990 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> {unimatrix} - Mollstam's on it
#1991 [17:49] <Jackson413> so that means, just freakin amazing
#1992 [17:49] <wanna> lol
#1993 [17:49] <guest-786011-67247> hey noodle
#1994 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> {unimatrix} - http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam
#1995 [17:50] <dxtr> Guys
#1996 [17:50] <dxtr> For some reason my client is maxing out as well :D
#1997 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> dxtr - Have you tried a new map yet?
#1998 [17:50] <wanna> on my client i replaced the copyright mojang ab with open source
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#2000 [17:51] <dxtr> GreyVulpine: No, but I just noticed my clients CPU usage is at 100% on my macbook pro too
#2001 [17:51] <wanna> lol its looks funny when i log in and see it
#2002 [17:51] <dxtr> :D
#2003 [17:51] <cookiemonster> GreyVulpine can you look at the address thing of mine
#2004 [17:51] <cookiemonster> for pastebin
#2005 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster- Yeah, I'm still reading. You're running a S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR graphics card, with a system that appears to be at least a decade old.
#2006 [17:51] <dxtr> GreyVulpine: Gonna try it now
#2007 [17:51] * mib_kqd55f [mib_kqd55f@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2008 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - I do not think minecraft will run on your system.
#2009 [17:51] <mib_kqd55f> hi can u help me plz
#2010 [17:51] <wanna> lol
#2011 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_kqd55f - With?
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#2013 [17:52] <cookiemonster> i thought that much
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#2015 [17:52] <mib_kqd55f> when i try to connect to a server it says somthin about my jarva
#2016 [17:52] <mib_kqd55f> java
#2017 [17:52] <cookiemonster> GreyVulpine But minecraft outdates version works for me
#2018 [17:52] <Malevion> have you tried updating java mib?
#2019 [17:52] <mib_kqd55f> no
#2020 [17:53] <Malevion> do that first
#2021 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Minecraft beta uses a different engine altogether
#2022 [17:53] <Eroticasphyxia> Guys, I just bought minecraft last night. Every time I try to run the launcher, the screen is greay and has this text "<html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect</center></font></body></html>" at the top. It won't let me connect.
#2023 [17:53] <lastelemental> I can run minecraftt on an xp 2400+ which isn't much stronger than his 2000+
#2024 [17:53] <wanna> agh hurry up mollstam
#2025 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Eroticasphyxia - Your firewall is blocking java/minecraft from connecting
#2026 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> lastelemental - Look at his graphics card
#2027 [17:53] <cookiemonster> GreyVulpine ok i am getting a laptop soon anyway so i can play on that
#2028 [17:53] * mib_zzj9gx [mib_zzj9gx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2029 [17:53] <slide> no, everyone is having trouble connecting
#2030 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> cookiemonster - Yes
#2031 [17:53] <Eroticasphyxia> Thank you, let me see if I can do something.
#2032 [17:53] <Malevion> anyone else having the issue with their minecraft server showing in the list as "communication error"?
#2033 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Malevion - Yes
#2034 [17:53] <lastelemental> I was just saying that his cpu is able to run it is all
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#2038 [17:54] <Nuxxar> Yo
#2039 [17:54] <Malevion> ok ty Grey
#2040 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> lastelemental - Sure, it's just his video card which is crap
#2041 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Malevion - http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam
#2042 [17:54] <Nuxxar> I get a new error now Grey
#2043 [17:54] <cookiemonster> GreyVulpine Thanks for your help
#2044 [17:54] <wanna> .color
#2045 [17:54] <wanna> color
#2046 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxar - http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam
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#2048 [17:54] <wanna> color.
#2049 [17:54] <Darkfyre\> o/
#2050 [17:54] <wanna> !color
#2051 [17:54] <wanna> testing
#2052 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> \o
#2053 [17:54] <wanna> colo!
#2054 [17:54] <Darkfyre\> Is anyone else having issues with mc.net atm?
#2055 [17:54] <Nuxxar> Internal client error: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
#2056 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> wanna- Please don't spam
#2057 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Darkfyre\ - http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam
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#2059 [17:55] <wanna> im trying to figure out what the thing u typed was
#2060 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Server auth is down. Mollstam's working on it
#2061 [17:55] <Darkfyre\> You are the man GreyVulpine
#2062 [17:55] <wanna> oh wait
#2063 [17:55] <Darkfyre\> ty
#2064 [17:55] <wanna> ttahts on essentials hel
#2065 [17:55] <wanna> help
#2066 [17:55] <wanna> im dumb
#2067 [17:55] <Nuxxar> All servers are down?
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#2069 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Nuxxar - Yes, currently
#2070 [17:55] <Nuxxar> It says that 3 players are playing
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#2072 [17:55] <lastelemental> might be people at mojang
#2073 [17:56] <wanna> update: now it says server redirected to many times
#2074 [17:56] <Malevion> ty GreyVulpine, i'll just wait until its all up and running again
#2075 [17:56] <Malevion> have a good one all
#2076 [17:56] <nyte> ne one here know how to fix a problem with the game freezing the sec you login to a server?
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#2080 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> nyte - Yes, currently the server auth is down. The mojang web admin is working on the problem
#2081 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam
#2082 [17:57] <wanna> aka mollstam
#2083 [17:57] <nyte> its been like this for like a week tho
#2084 [17:57] <mib_zzj9gx> when I try to go on a server it just says Internal client error: Java.net.ConnectException: connection refused: connect
#2085 [17:57] <TheNytangel> nyte reminds me of how some people say someone elses name around here...
#2086 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_zzj9gx - Server auth is down. just be patient
#2087 [17:57] <mib_zzj9gx> ok
#2088 [17:57] <lastelemental> @Nyt who could that be?
#2089 [17:57] <TheNytangel> Hmm
#2090 [17:57] <TheNytangel> Dunno
#2091 [17:57] <TheNytangel> It's on the tip of my tongue..
#2092 [17:57] <nyte> neone know when the servers will be back up?
#2093 [17:58] <Jackson413> guys be patient, minecraft is trying to take a dump in privacy and knocking on the door will make it take longer cause it can't concentrate
#2094 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> nyte - Shouldn't be more than a few minutes
#2095 [17:58] <wanna> jackson
#2096 [17:58] <TheNytangel> lastelemental, I got it! Me -_-
#2097 [17:58] <wanna> that is a sickening anology
#2098 [17:58] <nyte> n its been down for a week?
#2099 [17:58] <dxtr> Apparently a lot of people are having troubles with 1.8
#2100 [17:58] <wanna> no it hasnt nyte
#2101 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> nyte - No, just today
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#2103 [17:58] <nyte> ive been havin trouble almost for a week
#2104 [17:59] <malcoo> i have technical problem with my gift code someone can help me?
#2105 [18:00] <TheNytangel> Technical problem sounds technical
#2106 [18:00] <Jackson413> nobody liked my analogy
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#2108 [18:02] <ThVortex> Nuxxar: Anyone who logged into a server before the mc.net problems would remain unaffected
#2109 [18:02] <Nuxxar> Works for me now
#2110 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/121706251594903552
#2111 [18:03] <wanna> yes it works
#2112 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Server joining is back up
#2113 [18:03] <wanna> thanks mollstam
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#2116 [18:07] <mib_pvg2qy> is the server still down?
#2117 [18:08] * Platypus1997 [Platypus1997@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2118 [18:08] <Platypus1997> Hello
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#2120 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Hola
#2121 [18:09] <Platypus1997> are you a help person
#2122 [18:10] * mib_zv7qhz [mib_zv7qhz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2123 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps
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#2125 [18:11] <Platypus1997> ok i need help i cant start minecraft
#2126 [18:12] <What> hi
#2127 [18:12] <TheNoodle> Platypus1997, we need more information.
#2128 [18:12] <TheNoodle> What, Hi there.
#2129 [18:12] <What> I get a error when i try to connect to a muiltu player
#2130 [18:12] <What> server
#2131 [18:12] <Platypus1997> do you want me to copy the rror
#2132 [18:12] <Platypus1997> *error
#2133 [18:12] <TheNoodle> Platypus1997, put it on pastebin.
#2134 [18:12] <Thrae> What: We require the error
#2135 [18:13] <What> it works now thank you
#2136 [18:13] <What> bye
#2137 [18:13] <Platypus1997> http://mibpaste.com/dR5Lvs
#2138 [18:13] <Thrae> ...what
#2139 [18:14] <TheNoodle> gLOL
#2140 [18:14] <TheNoodle> That's awesome.
#2141 [18:14] <TheNoodle> Platypus1997, one sec.
#2142 [18:14] <Platypus1997> thats a advanced bot
#2143 [18:14] <Platypus1997> can read my message
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#2146 [18:15] <TheNoodle> Thrae, pixel format not accelerated, just update video card drivers or lwjgl?
#2147 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> TheNoodle - video drivers
#2148 [18:15] <Thrae> TheNoodle: Definitely video card drivers, although I would also have him update Java while he's at it (currently on Update 25)
#2149 [18:16] <TheNoodle> Thought so, was worth checking though.
#2150 [18:16] <TheNoodle> :p
#2151 [18:16] <Thrae> Just to stop future problems
#2152 [18:17] <Platypus1997> so can anyone help me
#2153 [18:17] <TheNoodle> Platypus1997, before we go any further update your version of java. http://java.com/inc/BrowserRedirect1.jsp?locale=en
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#2156 [18:18] <mib_lfd3r8> i there any one out there?
#2157 [18:18] <Platypus1997> ok
#2158 [18:19] <raisin> hi
#2159 [18:19] <Thrae> Hello mib_lfd3r8 and raisin
#2160 [18:19] <TheNoodle> There is mib_lfd3r8, could you use /nick <name> to change your nick please?
#2161 [18:19] <mib_lfd3r8> how do i do that?
#2162 [18:20] <Thrae> mib_lfd3r8: type in /nick yournickhere
#2163 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> ??+ gpu/opengl/diag|http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/
#2164 [18:20] <raisin> my minecraft "simulates world for a bit" than crashes, anyone have any advise
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#2166 [18:21] <Thrae> DopeGhoti: I love that utility, been having people use it for a while...never really found anything conclusive yet, like bad Renderer strings
#2167 [18:21] <tlktaytay> i created a new account and pursed the game but i cant get on to play
#2168 [18:21] <Thrae> Mostly systems where it crashes and people *still* claim their system is "fine" ;)
#2169 [18:22] <Thrae> tlktaytay: How long ago did you purchase it? What's your username?
#2170 [18:22] <tlktaytay> bout 3 hours ago
#2171 [18:22] <Thrae> ??> tlktaytay payment
#2172 [18:22] <VoxelHead> tlktaytay: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#2173 [18:22] <VoxelHead> tlktaytay: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
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#2175 [18:23] <tlktaytay> ok :(
#2176 [18:23] <Platypus1997> ok i updated java
#2177 [18:24] <Platypus1997> but i get same error
#2178 [18:24] <TheNoodle> That wasn't to fix your problem, that was just something that needed to be updated :p
#2179 [18:24] <TheNoodle> Are you using windows?
#2180 [18:24] <Thrae> tlktaytay: Usually it's pretty quick, so if it's been a few hours with no confirmation email from Mojang for a premium account I would contact your credit/debit card issuer or bank and verify the payment says it was sent from their end
#2181 [18:24] <Thrae> ??> Platypus1997 win/dxdiag
#2182 [18:24] <VoxelHead> Platypus1997: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2183 [18:24] <VoxelHead> Platypus1997: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2184 [18:24] <Thrae> TheNoodle: The error report says he is using Windows :)
#2185 [18:24] <TheNoodle> I didn't read it that far... :p
#2186 [18:24] <TheNoodle> I'm doing to many things at once :/
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#2188 [18:26] <Platypus1997> http://mibpaste.com/eWZoWi
#2189 [18:26] <Platypus1997> that is it
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#2191 [18:27] <Thrae> Platypus1997: OK, before we try updating your driver, first try putting this batch file in the same place that Minecraft.exe is located and running the batch file -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraftmx800.bat
#2192 [18:29] <Platypus1997> so if my launcher is on my desktop i put the batch on my desktop
#2193 [18:30] <Thrae> Platypus1997: Exactly.
#2194 [18:30] <Platypus1997> ok so i then click the batch then run minecraft
#2195 [18:30] <Thrae> Platypus1997: The batch file will launch Minecraft.exe using special Java parameters
#2196 [18:31] <Platypus1997> so i just click the batch
#2197 [18:31] <Thrae> Platypus1997: Yep
#2198 [18:31] <Platypus1997> it doesnt load minecraft
#2199 [18:32] <Platypus1997> when i click it on desktop
#2200 [18:32] <Thrae> Platypus1997: OK, update your driver here -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20391/a08/Win7Vista_64_152250.exe
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#2202 [18:33] <Thrae> Platypus1997: That will update the drivers for your special graphics media pipeline in your CPU ("Intel HD Graphics"), which is different than a dedicated GPU.
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#2206 [18:34] <Platypus1997> ok il try it
#2207 [18:37] <Platypus1997> it says it isnt the right driver
#2208 [18:38] <Platypus1997> or isnt validated for this computer
#2209 [18:38] <TheNoodle> Do it anyway :p
#2210 [18:39] <Platypus1997> but it says the installtion will close
#2211 [18:39] <Thrae> Platypus1997: http://www.spotht.com/2010/10/how-to-force-install-driver-or-program.html
#2212 [18:39] * Thrae didn't even know Windows 7 had this ability, always used the Update Driver wizard which does the same thing
#2212 [18:43] <Platypus1997> wait wat i dont get wat that thing does
#2213 [18:44] <Thrae> Platypus1997: Just follow the numbered instructions
#2214 [18:45] <Platypus1997> ok umm what service thingy should i use
#2215 [18:45] <Platypus1997> like windows xp windoes vista
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#2217 [18:48] <Thrae> Platypus1997: Try setting it to Vista
#2218 [18:48] <Platypus1997> what service pack
#2219 [18:49] <Platypus1997> or just straight up vista
#2220 [18:49] <Thrae> Platypus1997: Straight up (it really doesn't matter for this circumstance)
#2221 [18:50] <Platypus1997> didnt work
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#2223 [18:51] <Thrae> Platypus1997: OK, you'll need to extract the drivers from the compressed EXE and use the Update Driver Wizard -- http://pcsupport.about.com/od/driverssupport/ss/update-drivers-windows-7-tutorial_2.htm
#2224 [18:51] <Thrae> Platypus1997: That tutorial even has screenshots :)
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#2231 [19:04] <ChuckDarwin> minecraft down?
#2232 [19:05] <SuperSillySanta> can you tell me if my payment went through? I bought it about an hour ago and still can't play
#2233 [19:06] <DreadLindwyrm> !isdown
#2234 [19:06] <GreyBot> DreadLindwyrm: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2235 [19:06] <DreadLindwyrm> SuperSillySanta: what username did you choose?
#2236 [19:07] <SuperSillySanta> same as this chat
#2237 [19:07] <DreadLindwyrm> !paid SuperSillySanta
#2238 [19:07] <ChuckDarwin> Log in failed
#2239 [19:07] <DreadLindwyrm> OK, that suggests the payment hasn't been processed. Try in the morning.
#2240 [19:08] <SuperSillySanta> alright, thanks.
#2241 [19:08] <ChuckDarwin> where would i get the latest version?
#2242 [19:10] <ChuckDarwin> currently running 1.3_01, where would i get the latest version?
#2243 [19:11] <TheNoodle> ChuckDarwin, 1.3_01 of minecraft?
#2244 [19:11] <ChuckDarwin> yes sir
#2245 [19:11] <TheNoodle> Just start the launcher, when it asks you to update, do so. If you can't log in redownload the client from here...
#2246 [19:11] <TheNoodle> !client
#2247 [19:12] <ChuckDarwin> thanks, very much
#2248 [19:12] <TheNoodle> You're welcome.
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#2251 [19:32] <FernixArg> Here
#2252 [19:32] <TheNoodle> Okay, username?
#2253 [19:32] <FernixArg> FernixArg
#2254 [19:32] <TheNoodle> And are you trying to log into the client or join a server?
#2255 [19:32] <TheNoodle> !paid fernixarg
#2256 [19:32] <FernixArg> client
#2257 [19:32] <TheNoodle> Where did you buy minecraft?
#2258 [19:32] <FernixArg> A friend gifted me a key
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#2260 [19:33] <hokage> hello
#2261 [19:33] <TheNoodle> Hello hokage.
#2262 [19:33] <hokage> hey dose anyone know how to get rid of the lag?
#2263 [19:33] <|Kiichan|Schala|> hokage: hi. :P server lag or game lag?
#2264 [19:33] <hokage> game lag
#2265 [19:33] <hokage> the game itself
#2266 [19:34] <TheNoodle> FernixArg, then they can't be that good of a friend. The payment used to purchase the key was probably chargebacked.
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#2268 [19:34] <FernixArg> TheNoodle, it's weird, because i've been playing for some time with this account
#2269 [19:34] <FernixArg> 2 months I think
#2270 [19:34] <TheNoodle> Gift codes can still be removed, but that is odd.
#2271 [19:35] <TheNoodle> Are you SURE Fernixarg is the account name?
#2272 [19:35] <FernixArg> FernixArg
#2273 [19:35] <FernixArg> capital A has something to do?
#2274 [19:35] <mariettagecko> I have seen a lot of people having issues today about gift cards being bad.
#2275 [19:35] <|Kiichan|Schala|> hokage: lower graphic settings? i personally find 'advanced opengl' to lag me even though my computer is awsome :P
#2276 [19:36] <TheNoodle> FernixArg, nope, that won't make a difference.
#2277 [19:36] <mariettagecko> codes, that is.
#2278 [19:36] <TheNoodle> I'd suggest talking to your friend.
#2279 [19:36] <Thrae> FernixArg: Once something like a chargeback occurs it's not an automated process for Mojang to disable the account -- I've heard of a week to a couple of months
#2280 [19:36] <FernixArg> TheNoodle, and what do I exactly tell him?
#2281 [19:37] <TheNoodle> Ask him if he chargebacked the payment.
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#2283 [19:38] <FernixArg_> My connection dropped, sorry
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#2288 [19:39] <mib_xnh9ed> minecraft phone nummber
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#2290 [19:39] <FernixArg__> FFFF
#2291 [19:39] <mib_xnh9ed> help me
#2292 [19:40] <mib_la5zbd> What is the mine craft phone number
#2293 [19:40] <FernixArg__> TheNoodle: I talked with my friend
#2294 [19:40] <mib_xnh9ed> iam trying to buy minecraft
#2295 [19:40] <FernixArg__> He says he bought it at CDKeyshere.com
#2296 [19:40] <TheNoodle> Then they screwed you.
#2297 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> That would be why then. The only legal and recommended place to buy minecraft keys, is at minecraft.net
#2298 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Any other place, you run the risk of getting scammed.
#2299 [19:41] <Thrae> FernixArg_: Buying the gift code anywhere but minecraft.net has a very high probability of fraud -- there's no discount for buying in bulk, so there's no profit to be made
#2300 [19:41] <Thrae> (without resorting to something illegal)
#2301 [19:41] <TheNoodle> I don't scam people... :P
#2302 [19:41] <FernixArg__> It's a shame then
#2303 [19:41] <SuperMaster> I need help with buying minecraft...
#2304 [19:42] <mib_xnh9ed> it wont let me buy it
#2305 [19:42] <FernixArg__> I'll see if he can get a refund from them
#2306 [19:42] <TheNoodle> Super SuperMaster, what issues are you having?
#2307 [19:42] <Thrae> SuperMaster: Yes? What problem are you having?
#2308 [19:42] <Thrae> mib_xnh9ed: What's the issue?
#2309 [19:42] <SuperMaster> It has an error, i took a screenshot: http://prntscr.com/3cm21
#2310 [19:42] <FernixArg__> My concern now is why the code lasted this long?
#2311 [19:42] <mib_xnh9ed> it want let me click on the box securty nummber
#2312 [19:43] <Thrae> FernixArg__: Fly-By-Night operations don't just scam people in one day ;)
#2313 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> FernixArg__ - Not uncommon for people to wait a little while before doing a chargeback, then claim 'wasn't anything on their end"
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#2315 [19:43] <Thrae> FernixArg__: Waiting a while also helps eliminate any possible paper trail
#2316 [19:44] <FernixArg__> Wow
#2317 [19:44] <FernixArg__> The website seems legit
#2318 [19:44] <mariettagecko> There's been a lot of people in here today complaining about that issue.
#2319 [19:44] <mariettagecko> I'll bet that Mojang got around to clearing a bunch of keys from the legit keys file today.
#2320 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> I remember one person a week ago, bought minecraft from a third-party site, was working for a week, then got their gift code status revoked. When they filed a complaint, the person they bought it from told them it was Mojang's fault.
#2321 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> That Mojang "found out it wasn't legit" or some silly reason
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#2323 [19:46] <Thrae> FernixArg__: Some of these websites buy keys from people and then sell them, which isn't necessarily illegal for every piece of software. I frequent one such store myself and they've always been very nice about causes of fraud, which happens, as they can't always verify the key is valid without redeeming it.
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#2325 [19:46] <FernixArg> I hate this OSX bug that keeps dropping my connection
#2326 [19:47] <Thrae> SuperMaster: I've always wondered why that error says to contact the Merchant as AFAIK there's nothing Mojang can do...I would just try using Paypal.
#2327 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> !topic add RIP Steve Jobs
#2328 [19:48] <Silent_Samurai> Why is everybody putting that in the topic?
#2329 [19:48] <Thrae> SuperMaster: For direct payments through Credit Card, Mojang doesn't handle it themselves, they use Moneybookers (if you read the fine print on the website it says so).
#2330 [19:49] <TheNoodle> Silent_Samurai, because as much as some of us dislike mac computers, he was still a pretty cool guy who isn't afraid of anything.
#2331 [19:49] <Silent_Samurai> Yeah, but minecraft related how?
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#2333 [19:49] <TheNoodle> Does it need to be?
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#2335 [19:50] <Thrae> Silent_Samurai: Minecraft is one of the most modern commercial games (in terms of development) and vastly popular for Macs?
#2336 [19:50] <Silent_Samurai> Right...
#2337 [19:50] <TheNoodle> Think of it as the helpers of #minecrafthelp paying their repsects.
#2338 [19:50] <Thrae> I bet Blizzard Entertainment communities talk about it too
#2339 [19:50] <FernixArg> What? Steve jobs dided?
#2340 [19:50] <FernixArg> died*
#2341 [19:50] <TheNytangel> >.>
#2342 [19:50] <TheNoodle> Yep
#2343 [19:50] <TheNytangel> My new glasses are so.. glarey
#2344 [19:51] <mib_j02da7> So, i have been trying to get my minecraft back on my computer, but it won't let me download the actual game, or the server starters, or anything. It pops up with a phony virus scan stating that the file is full of viruses and has deleted the program before it was downloaded, any help on this subject?
#2345 [19:51] <TheNytangel> ?? virus
#2346 [19:51] <VoxelHead> virus: There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.
#2347 [19:51] <VoxelHead> virus: For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
#2348 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_j02da7 - Yes, either make an exception for minecraft, or disable the AV, or find a different one.
#2349 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> Your current AV is reporting a false positive
#2350 [19:54] <Thrae> mib_j02da7: Unless you have a virus / malware on your computer acting as a virus scanner, the "phony virus scan" is probably a quick memory scan
#2351 [19:54] <Eki> If I want to play both with and without mods, is my best bet to rename the .minecraft folder, redownload/copy it, install the mods in the new .minecraft folder, and then change which folder is called .minecraft each time I want to change which one I'm playing?
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#2353 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Eki - Yes
#2354 [19:54] <Eki> all right, thanks!
#2355 [19:55] <Eki> I might write a script for it, actually...
#2356 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> If you're running windows, a batch file would be easiest
#2357 [19:55] <Eki> Running linux
#2358 [19:55] <Eki> so an .sh script
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#2360 [19:56] <Eki> but yeah, thanks!
#2361 [19:56] <Eki> bye, bye
#2362 [19:57] <TheNytangel> Funny
#2363 [19:57] <mib_j02da7> The program that pops up is On-Access Scan Messages, detects any minecraft item as New Win32, states: Deleted (Clean failed because the detection isn't cleanable)
#2364 [19:57] <TheNytangel> I just found an element song..
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#2366 [20:00] <mib_j02da7> I'm primarily interested in downloading the multiplayer server launcher, is there another server launcher that's almost equally easy without configuring your computer?
#2367 [20:00] <Thrae> mib_j02da7: Yeah, that's part of your AV's "on-access protection", also known as "resident", "realtime", etc.
#2368 [20:01] <mib_j02da7> anyway around it?
#2369 [20:01] <Thrae> mib_j02da7: All servers for most everything require you to at least setup port-forwarding on your router.
#2370 [20:01] <Thrae> mib_j02da7: Disable your AV and then download it, or set an exception in your AV. There are hundreds of AV out there so we don't really have that information.
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#2374 [20:07] <menotyou> I am having trouble running Minecraft everytime i try to load it i get a script error this happens even in the browser version on the site and the downloaded version. i have a completely legitament account and have bought the game so i don't understand help if you can plz
#2375 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Could you please copy the contents of the error to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it?
#2376 [20:08] <menotyou> will do give me a sec
#2377 [20:11] <menotyou> unfortunately the notice gets in the way and will not allow me to copy the information that is in it
#2378 [20:11] <menotyou> but it says the following
#2379 [20:11] <menotyou> first : Java platform SE binary has stopped working
#2380 [20:12] <menotyou> it then states the following on the fialed MC browser
#2381 [20:12] <rev-lemon> menotyou goto java.com < and make sure yu have the latest version
#2382 [20:12] <mib_j02da7> I just tried exluding the downloads from minecraft from all of my AV, but the same message still pops up, even though i had just configured it to exclude that program. What now?
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#2384 [20:13] <rev-lemon> mib_j02da7 you know that minecraft has a folder in %appdata% < dont you ? did you exclude that folder as well ?
#2385 [20:13] <menotyou> minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated openGL mode. this can usually be fixed by updating the video card driver
#2386 [20:13] <mib_j02da7> forgot that one, even though i use it often
#2387 [20:14] <rev-lemon> menotyou windows / mac ?
#2388 [20:14] <menotyou> i have gone to java my copy is up to date and i went to the video card and updated the driver as well
#2389 [20:14] <menotyou> windows
#2390 [20:14] <lemon-rev> ok
#2391 [20:14] <lemon-rev> can you follow these instructions please
#2392 [20:15] <lemon-rev> ??> menotyou win/dxdiag
#2393 [20:15] <VoxelHead> menotyou: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2394 [20:15] <VoxelHead> menotyou: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2395 [20:16] <menotyou> i willi am doing win/dxdiag starting the program
#2396 [20:16] <mib_j02da7> still no progress with every MC folder excluded
#2397 [20:16] <lemon-rev> hum
#2398 [20:16] <mib_j02da7> i even excluded the files i would download
#2399 [20:17] <mib_j02da7> like Minecraft_Server.exe
#2400 [20:17] <lemon-rev> mib_j02da7 have you tryed disableing your av at all ?
#2401 [20:18] <mib_j02da7> all of them
#2402 [20:18] <lemon-rev> how many have you got ?
#2403 [20:18] <mib_j02da7> 3
#2404 [20:18] <lemon-rev> ouch
#2405 [20:19] <lemon-rev> thats why you got such a conflict then
#2406 [20:19] <lemon-rev> yes try disableing all 3
#2407 [20:19] <mib_j02da7> all disabled and off
#2408 [20:19] <mib_j02da7> turned back on now
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#2410 [20:21] <menotyou> pasted files at http://pastebin.com/EyQMw3nL i think it may be worth mentioning that i had mc work b4
#2411 [20:21] <lemon-rev> ty menotyou
#2412 [20:21] <lemon-rev> ok
#2413 [20:22] <menotyou> np thanks for trying to help
#2414 [20:22] <lemon-rev> so menotyou what did you do to it when it not working anymore
#2415 [20:22] <TheNytangel> lemon-rev, I need help
#2416 [20:22] <lemon-rev> whats up
#2417 [20:22] <lemon-rev> we all do :P
#2418 [20:22] <TheNytangel> I don't understand this.. Predict which of the following ions would be likely to form: Na^2+
#2419 [20:23] <Thrae> mib_j02da7: Try using Safe Mode with Networking
#2420 [20:23] <lemon-rev> hm, maths
#2421 [20:23] <TheNytangel> A.k.a. Na missing two electrons
#2422 [20:23] <Thrae> mib_j02da7: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm
#2423 [20:23] <TheNytangel> lemon-rev, science..
#2424 [20:23] <menotyou> well lemon-rev unfortunately my computer got a rather nasty virus and we have to clear the computer while saving all the files we could after we loaded everything back up everything worked well but mc
#2425 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> science is math.
#2426 [20:23] <lemon-rev> TheNytangel why dont you just look for ions that would acually make that na^2 and go from there
#2427 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> http://xkcd.com/435/
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#2429 [20:24] <TheNytangel> lemon-rev, because I don't understand this >:o
#2430 [20:24] <lemon-rev> ??> menotyou win/reinst
#2431 [20:24] <VoxelHead> menotyou: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2432 [20:24] <Thrae> menotyou: You probably just didn't get the best drivers for your video card when you reloaded the system
#2433 [20:24] <VoxelHead> menotyou: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2434 [20:24] <lemon-rev> hm,
#2435 [20:24] <lemon-rev> well its not that much to go on, so lets see what we can deduce
#2436 [20:25] <TheNytangel> Well I got to go eat.. you think on that :P
#2437 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> clearly Sodium ions are formed by Sodium Chloride achieving dissolution in a solvent such as hydric acid, dihydrogen monoxide, or water.
#2438 [20:27] <menotyou> hmm... well lemon-rev win /reinst opened an info pop up
#2439 [20:27] <menotyou> and as for reinstalling mc i tryed it several times
#2440 [20:27] <lemon-rev> well i was about to say it has to do with sodium but the question posted by TheNytangel doesnt give much explination of what it is the answer to
#2441 [20:27] <menotyou> completely deleting data
#2442 [20:27] <lemon-rev> ok, i could give you a link to ati, give me min ill link you up
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#2444 [20:29] <lemon-rev> menotyou try http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx < please download and run, update your video drivers
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#2447 [20:33] <menotyou> i downloaded the files now how should i go to the program.. i do believe i tryed this before but i can't remember how to get at the program
#2448 [20:34] <lemon-rev> menotyou yes please try and restart mc
#2449 [20:34] <lemon-rev> again
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#2451 [20:35] <menotyou> it still gives the same error
#2452 [20:35] <Thrae> menotyou: Select "Run" instead of "Save"
#2453 [20:35] <lemon-rev> bah,
#2454 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> have we tried a new profile yet?
#2455 [20:35] <menotyou> i have tried the run and save
#2456 [20:35] <lemon-rev> i dont belive, so
#2457 [20:35] <Thrae> menotyou: For the Suite download?
#2458 [20:36] <Thrae> menotyou: Does the Installer pop up?
#2459 [20:37] <menotyou> yes it downloads the files fine and when you open it up it works fine it's just when you try to log in the screen stays black after loading and then gets and error before the play menu comes up
#2460 [20:37] <Thrae> menotyou: I'm talking about the Catalyst Suite download from http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#2461 [20:37] <Thrae> menotyou: Have you downloaded and installed the Catalyst Suite yet?
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#2463 [20:38] <menotyou> yes
#2464 [20:38] <lemon-rev> thrae i thnk those drivers worked hes just getting black screen
#2465 [20:38] <menotyou> i have
#2466 [20:38] <lemon-rev> menotyou try this please goto start / control pannel / programs / i think it is add remove *** remove java/ reinstall it via java.com please
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#2468 [20:40] <menotyou> i'm in control pannel and went to programs but can't find add remove
#2469 [20:40] <Ryladine> menotyou: What is your OS?
#2470 [20:40] <Thrae> menotyou: It's called "Programs and Features", which has a title, "Add/Remove"
#2471 [20:40] <dbovair99> i need help.can someone help me please?
#2472 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> dbovair99: not if you rely on telepathy.
#2473 [20:41] * lemon-rev didnt think there was a help.can site lol but whats up
#2473 [20:41] <Thrae> dbovair99: Depends on your problem -- if there's an error, please paste the error to www.pastebin.com and give us the link. Either way, please elaborate.
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#2475 [20:41] <menotyou> ty at the menu will try and remove and reinstall using java online
#2476 [20:41] <Ryladine> Ahh.. Vista/7 the control panel scheme rally sucks.
#2477 [20:42] <dbovair99> well whenever i try to log in it says "error log in failed
#2478 [20:43] <Thrae> dbovair99: Has it worked before? Do you have a brand new Premium account?
#2479 [20:43] <TheNytangel> lemon-rev, back :P
#2480 [20:43] <lemon-rev> ye np
#2481 [20:43] <dbovair99> ya it worked fine just until the day 1.8 came out then itstarted to say that
#2482 [20:43] <TheNytangel> One of my sister's doesn't understand crap, the other one says it doesn't give enough information and "I need to know how ions form"
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#2484 [20:44] <lemon-rev> TheNytangel dude, i think <DopeGhoti> taking bets as to whether he recognises what hydric acid or dihydrogen monoxide are? (: < that might be the answer not sure :)
#2485 [20:44] <TheNytangel> How about this
#2486 [20:44] <TheNytangel> I go in early tomorrow and get help :P
#2487 [20:44] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel, chem problem?
#2488 [20:44] <lemon-rev> lol, i think that might be the best thing to do
#2489 [20:44] <Thrae> dbovair99: I bet you're using the old launcher without the "News" section and "Options" button. Go to http://www.minecraft.net/download and get the latest one for your OS.
#2490 [20:45] <TheNytangel> I just wish I could make a stupid squared symbol..
#2491 [20:45] <dbovair99> ya i do use that kind... is that the problem?
#2492 [20:45] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, Predict which of the following ions would be likely to form Na^2+
#2493 [20:45] <TheNoodle> I remember this stuff!
#2494 [20:45] <TheNytangel> Good
#2495 [20:45] <TheNytangel> There are 5 more of those
#2496 [20:45] <menotyou> java seems to not want to go away...
#2497 [20:45] <TheNytangel> Now gimmeh answers :)
#2498 [20:46] <lemon-rev> ??> menotyou win/javara
#2499 [20:46] <VoxelHead> menotyou: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2500 [20:46] <VoxelHead> menotyou: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#2501 [20:46] <Thrae> dbovair99: The old launcher lacks SSL encryption which was made a requirement when 1.8 was released.
#2502 [20:46] <lemon-rev> menotyou yes please goto miencraft.net and download the new launcher
#2503 [20:46] <dbovair99> ok its installing now
#2504 [20:46] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, it should take that long to answer it, the blank is about this long: _____
#2505 [20:46] <TheNoodle> Heh, let me go find my old chem books.
#2506 [20:46] <TheNytangel> shouldn't*
#2507 [20:47] <TheNoodle> Thing is, you normally need that chart... :/
#2508 [20:47] <TheNoodle> Can't remember what it's called
#2509 [20:47] <lemon-rev> oh you can get one on web
#2510 [20:47] <lemon-rev> lol
#2511 [20:47] <TheNoodle> Lists ionic probibilities.
#2512 [20:47] <TheNoodle> I could, if I could remember what it's called.
#2513 [20:47] <lemon-rev> http://www.lenntech.com/periodic/periodic-chart.htm < try that
#2514 [20:48] * TheNoodle slaps lemon-rev
#2514 [20:48] <lemon-rev> lol, ty
#2515 [20:48] <TheNoodle> Not a periodic table.
#2516 [20:48] <menotyou> java wants to update and says it must close browsers
#2517 [20:48] <lemon-rev> correct
#2518 [20:48] <lemon-rev> menotyou please do so
#2519 [20:48] <Thrae> menotyou: We're not going anywhere
#2520 [20:48] <dbovair99> do u have minecraft account?
#2521 [20:49] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2522 [20:49] <menotyou> yes...
#2523 [20:49] <menotyou> i have a mc account lol
#2524 [20:49] <menotyou> well closing browsers probably will be back
#2525 [20:49] <dbovair99> no i mean thrae
#2526 [20:50] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, it could be the periodic table. What is it, the "ionic table?" :P
#2527 [20:50] <Thrae> dbovair99: Most of us do, yes
#2528 [20:50] <TheNoodle> It's not a table :p
#2529 [20:50] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, ionic chart?
#2530 [20:51] <dbovair99> o ya well, what things changed in 1.8.i know stupid question but i missed out on a lot
#2531 [20:52] <Thrae> dbovair99: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#2532 [20:53] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, the others are Cl+, Ca^2+, Br-, Ne-, and Ne+
#2533 [20:53] <TheNytangel> Along with Na^2+
#2534 [20:53] <TheNoodle> That doesn't help without the table/chart/list I'm looking for :p
#2535 [20:54] <dbovair99> it worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks so much thrae!!!!!!! :D
#2536 [20:54] <TheNytangel> Well find the chart/table/list that you said wasn't a table and then answer those :P
#2537 [20:54] <dbovair99> :D :P :)
#2538 [20:54] <TheNoodle> I'm looking :P
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#2540 [20:55] <menotyou> hello
#2541 [20:55] <TheNoodle> HA
#2542 [20:55] <TheNoodle> standard reduction potentials
#2543 [20:55] <TheNytangel> Now
#2544 [20:56] <TheNytangel> Answers? :)
#2545 [20:56] <menotyou> back tryed to uninstall java and it doesnt let me
#2546 [20:57] <lemon-rev> menotyou rember me trying to get you to use a program called javara
#2547 [20:57] <menotyou> what was the link to the java fixing program
#2548 [20:57] <lemon-rev> ??> menotyou javara
#2549 [20:57] <lemon-rev> ??> menotyou win/javara
#2550 [20:57] <VoxelHead> menotyou: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2551 [20:57] <VoxelHead> menotyou: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#2552 [20:58] * Thrae nods to dbovair99
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#2553 [20:59] <menotyou> on the site which download should i use?
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#2555 [21:02] <menotyou> voxelhead? on the javara site which of the downloads should i use?
#2556 [21:03] <Thrae> menotyou: "Download Windows Binary (.zip file)"
#2557 [21:03] <lemon-rev> yea that file
#2558 [21:03] <Thrae> menotyou: Under "JavaRa", just like VoxelHead said
#2559 [21:03] <lemon-rev> sorry, i was trying to work out the site my self
#2560 [21:04] <menotyou> ok then i unzipped the file hwat is my next step?
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#2562 [21:04] <Thrae> menotyou: Run the program that you just unzipped
#2563 [21:04] <menotyou> i have it open
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#2565 [21:05] <Thrae> menotyou: You don't have to ask for our help before each and every step :)
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#2567 [21:06] <huddler> Hi can anyone help me out?
#2568 [21:06] <Thrae> huddler: Elaborate and maybe we can
#2569 [21:07] <menotyou> ya but i didn't look at the application part sorry i try to get as much done as possible but i'm not exactly a computer genius i know the basic commands and not much else
#2570 [21:07] <menotyou> so now that the program is open which of the options will do what i need?
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#2572 [21:07] <huddler> Alright well I keep getting a video card error... But just a few days ago I could play fine.
#2573 [21:08] <Thrae> huddler: Did you recently update Minecraft to 1.8? Did you recently update your video card drivers or reinstall Windows?
#2574 [21:09] <menotyou> with PureRa open should i clean all? there is not a specific java one
#2575 [21:09] <huddler> I haven't updated minecraft or windows and i check nVidia and there are no available updates as far as I know.
#2576 [21:10] <Thrae> ??> huddler win/dxdiag
#2577 [21:10] <VoxelHead> huddler: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2578 [21:10] <VoxelHead> huddler: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2579 [21:10] <Thrae> huddler: *Something* changed on your computer, something unrelated to Minecraft -- we gotta figure out what
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#2581 [21:11] <bambam0406> why does minecraft close as soon as it loads
#2582 [21:12] <Thrae> bambam0406: Do you have any error files like "hs_err_pid" in the same directory as the Minecraft launcher? Have you installed any mods or texture packs?
#2583 [21:12] <bambam0406> in the folder that has minecraft all these other files appear
#2584 [21:13] <bambam0406> i havent added any mods or texture packs
#2585 [21:13] <huddler> You want me to copy everything?
#2586 [21:13] <Thrae> huddler: Yes, to pastebin.com and then give us the link.
#2587 [21:14] <bambam0406> these files look are names this the error files are just like the one you mention above
#2588 [21:14] <bambam0406> sorry
#2589 [21:14] <Thrae> bambam0406: Copy the contents of the latest one to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL it sends you to after submittal.
#2590 [21:15] <huddler> http://pastebin.com/eW3DRyFb
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#2592 [21:15] <bambam0406> how do i copy the contents to pastebin
#2593 [21:15] <menotyou> ok so i used the PureRa to scan all and it found some things i then tryed to restart mc it still has the same error
#2594 [21:15] <Thrae> menotyou: When you run JavaRa the option you want is "Remove Old Java Installations" or "Remove Old JRE" or something like that.
#2595 [21:15] <Thrae> menotyou: We asked you to download JavaRa, not PureRa.
#2596 [21:16] <Thrae> bambam0406: Open file in Notepad (it'll open there by default most likely), go to Edit->Select All, then Edit->Copy, then right-click on the big white box that Pastebin.com supplies for pasting and select "Paste"
#2597 [21:16] <lemon-rev> huddler have you gotten mc to work for yu ?
#2598 [21:16] <panitaliemom> we bought minecraft and it isn't working on our mac. i clicked on in browser from the homepage and it said minecraft beta at the top of the screen but the game itself didn't actually show up.
#2599 [21:16] <huddler> Nope.
#2600 [21:16] <Thrae> panitaliemom: What OS X version do you have?
#2601 [21:17] <huddler> It's worked before
#2602 [21:17] <lemon-rev> huddler have you tryed going to minecraft.net and login and click in broswer ?
#2603 [21:17] <huddler> yep
#2604 [21:17] <huddler> Still says video card error.
#2605 [21:17] <ryladine> huddler: Does it specify the error?
#2606 [21:18] <huddler> Yeah. It's long though.
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#2608 [21:18] <ryladine> hddler: paste it on pastebin and give us a link
#2609 [21:18] <bambam0406> what do i do after i paste it??
#2610 [21:18] <ryladine> bambam0406: Press submit and give us the link
#2611 [21:18] <huddler> Gotchya.
#2612 [21:19] <Thrae> huddler: Can you install this driver -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18774/a08/winxp_14374.exe
#2613 [21:19] <panitaliemom> version 10.5.8
#2614 [21:19] <Thrae> ??> panitaliemom mac/10.5.8
#2615 [21:19] <ryladine> panitaliemom: you answered your own problem
#2616 [21:19] <VoxelHead> panitaliemom: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#2617 [21:19] <VoxelHead> panitaliemom: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#2618 [21:19] <bambam0406> http://pastebin.com/V938pKe7
#2619 [21:19] <huddler> http://pastebin.com/a25yy6VB
#2620 [21:19] <huddler> theres the error
#2621 [21:20] <bambam0406> when is minecraft 1.9 released
#2622 [21:20] <Thrae> panitaliemom: There's a bug in 10.5.8 that prevents OpenGL 1.3, technology from 1999, from working properly. It's supposedly fixed in 10.6, and in Minecraft 1.9 they changed it to use OpenGL 1.2.
#2623 [21:20] <ryladine> huddler: Try installing the drivers Thrae linked you
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#2625 [21:21] <huddler> Says the driver is not validated for this computer.
#2626 [21:21] <Thrae> bambam0406: Feel free to try this mod -- Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
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#2628 [21:22] <mib_c0du1s> hi i am getting java crahes, here is the link to the crash report i get : http://pastebin.com/CprErCez
#2629 [21:22] <mib_mf5okr> does anyone know how to stop your game from closing it self like every 10 seconds it keeps shutting down the program and i cant play
#2630 [21:22] <Thrae> huddler: OK, either extract that EXE or download this ZIP and use the Update Driver Wizard to force an install -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18775/a08/winxp_14374.zip
#2631 [21:23] <Thrae> huddler: Here's instructions for using the Update Driver Wizard -- http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ht/updatedriverxp.htm
#2632 [21:23] <lemon-rev> mib_c0du1s windows / mac ?
#2633 [21:23] <mib_c0du1s> windows xp
#2634 [21:24] <lemon-rev> mib_c0du1s goto start / control pannel / add remove programs / remove java / reinstall it via java.com please
#2635 [21:24] <Thrae> mib_c0du1s: Yeah you're using Java 7. We recommend Java 6 Update 27.
#2636 [21:25] <Thrae> mib_c0du1s: Where are you copying this error report from, anyway? Firefox?
#2637 [21:25] <mib_c0du1s> k. i had that java too with same result. but will try it again.
#2638 [21:27] <mib_c0du1s> java crashes and gave me that report
#2639 [21:27] <Thrae> mib_c0du1s: I've never seen an error report in that format before, which is why I asked -- even from Java
#2640 [21:27] <mib_c0du1s> i tried to play using browser too same result
#2641 [21:27] <mib_c0du1s> ah ok
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#2643 [21:30] <someguy> i have a problem.
#2644 [21:30] <someguy> I accidentally deleted minecraft.jar in the bin folder.
#2645 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Delete the bin folder itself, it'll redownload the next time you log in
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#2648 [21:33] <Plaidballoon> Hey I need some help
#2649 [21:34] <huddler> Uh, hey Thrae how do you open that link you sent me using Winrar?
#2650 [21:34] <menotyou> *sigh* ok i found and used javara and then went online and found the java file downloaded it and ran it but the problem still persists
#2651 [21:35] <menotyou> i am pretty sure the issue is with java though
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#2653 [21:36] <Thrae> huddler: The ZIP file? It's just a ZIPPED file -- you extract it. Windows XP can extract it by itself.
#2654 [21:37] <Thrae> huddler: If it's the EXE file, you just open it up in WinRAR and it'll open up like any other archive.
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#2656 [21:37] <Thrae> menotyou: Go to http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx , go to "Optional Downloads", then download and install just the "Display Driver"
#2657 [21:38] <lemon-rev> whats up Plaidballoon ?
#2658 [21:39] <ryladine> Thrae, you can open a .exe with winrar like that? :o
#2659 [21:39] <Thrae> ryladine: If it's a self-extracting archive you can
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#2661 [21:39] <huddler> Yeah, so i opened the file, but I don't understand which device to force the update on.
#2662 [21:39] <Thrae> 7zip also supports it, among others
#2663 [21:40] <Thrae> huddler: Display Adapters -> Intel 945 Graphics Chipset
#2664 [21:40] <menotyou> thrae sorry to ask this but all that comes up for me is "hydra vision package" and "ADM media codec package"
#2665 [21:41] <Thrae> menotyou: Whoops, that's the wrong page. You don't have a laptop, right?
#2666 [21:41] <menotyou> i do actualy its a tad bit old tho
#2667 [21:42] <menotyou> this is my pc though
#2668 [21:42] <menotyou> not laptop
#2669 [21:42] <Thrae> menotyou: When you gave us your DxDiag information for the computer having problems with Minecraft, which computer was that from? Is your desktop or laptop having problems?
#2670 [21:43] <menotyou> desktop and thast what i'm on now
#2671 [21:43] <menotyou> my laptop probably can't even run mc -_-
#2672 [21:44] <Thrae> menotyou: OK, so that link was wrong as it was showing you the ATI drivers for laptops
#2673 [21:45] <Thrae> menotyou: Re-download the Catalyst Suite from here -- http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_vista-64.aspx
#2674 [21:45] <Thrae> menotyou: If problems persist, go to the same site then select "Individual Downloads" and download and install just the Display Driver
#2675 [21:46] <menotyou> ok then well i have to do to dinner but i'll open that and get back to it after dinner
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#2677 [21:47] <Jourdy288> Hello?
#2678 [21:47] <Jourdy288> Anybody here? I need halp.
#2679 [21:47] <Jourdy288> I bought a Visa gift card...
#2680 [21:48] <Jourdy288> Having trouble buying Minecraft.
#2681 [21:48] <Thrae> Jourdy288: Having problems working with Moneybookers, the service Minecraft.net uses for handling credit cards and debit cards by default?
#2682 [21:48] <Jourdy288> Um, nothing about Moneybookers
#2683 [21:49] <Jourdy288> Is there some sort of downage?
#2684 [21:49] <Jourdy288> When I put in my info,
#2685 [21:49] <Jourdy288> it asks me to verify via my cell phone.
#2686 [21:49] <Thrae> Jourdy288: Moneybookers is the service that Minecraft.net uses for all credit card and debit card payments that do not go through Paypal.
#2687 [21:49] <Jourdy288> Trouble is, the SMS never comes.
#2688 [21:49] <Jourdy288> Noted.
#2689 [21:49] <Jourdy288> Wait,
#2690 [21:50] <|Kiikun|> someone else had the same issue where the txt never came.
#2691 [21:50] <Jourdy288> am I supposed to use the button labeled 'Moneybookers' instead of Visa?
#2692 [21:50] <Jourdy288> Oi
#2693 [21:50] <Thrae> Jourdy288: They're the same, except with the Moneybookers button you can use different payment options that Moneybookers supports with a Moneybookers account. With the "Visa" button you don't need an account, but it you're still dealing with Moneybookers directly./
#2694 [21:50] <Jourdy288> Ah
#2695 [21:51] <Thrae> Jourdy288: Some people have experienced problems with Moneybookers and since we're not their support we don't really know how to deal with them except to say try using Paypal as a proxy (you can pay through Paypal without making an account, and it doesn't require a checking account)
#2696 [21:51] <Jourdy288> Really?
#2697 [21:51] <Jourdy288> But isn't there some problem with Paypal and prepaid cards?
#2698 [21:52] <|Kiikun|> i still think the whole gift card thing might be an issue :P
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#2700 [21:53] <Thrae> Jourdy288: Should work. If there's a problem, contact the card issuer and/or Visa.
#2701 [21:53] <dartigen> Hey, when buying a gift code for someone, do I enter my email or their email?
#2702 [21:53] <Jourdy288> Sorry AFK
#2703 [21:54] <Jourdy288> OK, I will be sure to get on Visa tomorrow about this if I can't get it working
#2704 [21:54] <Thrae> Jourdy288: If you'd rather try and fix the problem with Moneybookers, I would contact your cell phone service to see if they're blocking the text -- some do as an anti-spam measure
#2705 [21:54] <|Kiikun|> dartigen: either? probably yours so you can get the code and surprise them with it :P
#2706 [21:54] <Jourdy288> Thanks, I didn't know that!
#2707 [21:54] <Thrae> (They should be required to by law, as text messages received count toward your limit)
#2708 [21:55] <Jourdy288> I have the unlimited plan :D
#2709 [21:55] <Jourdy288> Still might be coming in as spam though.
#2710 [21:55] <Thrae> (Depends on country/state/province)
#2711 [21:55] <dartigen> Ok, thanks! (Was worried I might have double-purchased.) Also, how long are the valid for? (It's a Christmas present, but I decided to get it now before I forget.)
#2712 [21:55] <Thrae> Jourdy288: Yeah that normally doesn't matter in this case
#2713 [21:56] <Thrae> dartigen: You pay the full price for Gift Codes, so they're the same as the person buying it themselves (IE, theoretically forever)
#2714 [21:56] <Jourdy288> SWEET BABY HEROBRINE YES
#2715 [21:56] <dartigen> So I can email it at Christmas and it's still good?
#2716 [21:56] <Jourdy288> Just got the code on my mother's phone.
#2717 [21:56] <Jourdy288> She has a different carrier.
#2718 [21:56] <Jourdy288> Thanks for the help guys!
#2719 [21:57] <Thrae> dartigen: yeah, so you're waiting on it...that I'm not 100% sure. I would assume it's valid until used.
#2720 [21:57] <dartigen> Okay, I'll see how it goes and report back if it doesn't work out.
#2721 [21:57] <Thrae> dartigen: Even if it becomes unvalidated, with proof of purchase you can just get it back
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#2723 [21:58] <Jourdy288> AUGH!
#2724 [21:58] <Jourdy288> We were unable to deduct 21.95 USD from your credit/debit card because the transaction was declined by your card issuing bank.
#2725 [22:00] <Jourdy288> Restricted country :(
#2726 [22:02] <Thrae> Jourdy288: Paypal, then call your card issuer
#2727 [22:02] <Jourdy288> Afraid I'll have to..
#2728 [22:03] <Jourdy288> So I'll have to tell them that... Wait, what do?
#2729 [22:03] <Jourdy288> Tell them that I need to make a purchase from Sweden, or?
#2730 [22:03] <Thrae> Jourdy288: Yeah, explain what the purchase is for and ask why it was declined (as that error wasn't from Moneybookers, it was from VISA)
#2731 [22:04] <Jourdy288> Man, thanks.
#2732 [22:04] <Jourdy288> I wish there was some sort of universal currency.
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#2734 [22:05] <Jourdy288> Well buy Thrae, thanks!
#2735 [22:06] * Thrae nods to Jourdy288
#2735 [22:06] <Jourdy288> *bye, my subconscious failed me.
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#2737 [22:11] * TheNoodle waves
#2737 [22:11] <ryladine> Hai wug.
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#2740 [22:12] <Jourdy288> Hello?
#2741 [22:12] <Jourdy288> Something strange hath occured.
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#2743 [22:12] <Jourdy288> Checked my Visa gift card page,
#2744 [22:12] <Jourdy288> still have $50.
#2745 [22:12] <Jourdy288> But when I clicked on the return to merchant button
#2746 [22:12] <Jourdy288> after trying to buy Minecraft,
#2747 [22:13] <Jourdy288> it said 'Thank YOu' and that my status should update within the hour...
#2748 [22:13] <Jourdy288> What just happened?
#2749 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> second page always gives a successful message, even after a failed transaction
#2750 [22:13] <Jourdy288> Is this going to go through? Does the system think I bought the game or was it just thanking me for what would have been?
#2751 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Don't trust the second page.. it lies
#2752 [22:13] <Jourdy288> Ah, I suspected, lol.
#2753 [22:13] <Jourdy288> Thanks, I've gotta tell Visa to unblock Minecraft tomorrow mornign.
#2754 [22:14] <Jourdy288> Thanks, bye :D
#2755 [22:14] <phantomnick> ok i have a sticky situation
#2756 [22:14] <ryladine> And it is?
#2757 [22:14] <phantomnick> i forgot my password and the email that i used is now been canceled(i switched isp's) so what can i do?
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#2759 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> phantomnick - Email daniel@mojang.com with a description of your situation, as well as proof of payment
#2760 [22:16] <phantomnick> ok thanks
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#2762 [22:17] <ninjamatthew> i made a minecraft server with some friends we have a lot of buildings and other things and now we lagg out when we try to go on
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#2764 [22:19] <ryladine> People wait for help so very long.
#2765 [22:19] <ryladine> What was that? Two minutes?
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#2767 [22:21] <phantomnick> ok so here is my other problem, the reciept for minecraft was sent to me old email lol and im trying to get them back to no avail lol
#2768 [22:21] <TheNoodle> ..
#2769 [22:22] <TheNoodle> Stop using your isps email.
#2770 [22:22] <ryladine> Phantom: Contact your bank and see if they still have a record of the pruchase, or search for old bank statments in your records.
#2771 [22:22] <ryladine> ^ Noodle's is a good solution as well
#2772 [22:22] <phantomnick> yea i know i have other emails as well
#2773 [22:22] <TheNoodle> ^_^
#2774 [22:23] * |Kiikun| is STILL using old ISP emails... they dont EXPIRE if you use them.
#2774 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#2775 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> gmail doesn't expire
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#2777 [22:23] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: actually.. i have gmail checking all of them :P
#2778 [22:23] * Thrae didn't even bother setting up his Verizon FiOS email account
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#2779 [22:30] <EvilJoven> anyone here familiar with Flans planes mod? I installed it and everything works except the normal biplane and two seater wont fly
#2780 [22:30] <EvilJoven> other planes are OK
#2781 [22:31] <ryladine> ?? mods
#2782 [22:31] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#2783 [22:31] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
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#2785 [22:35] <napoleon> my game is stuck on a window that says "UPDATING MINECRAFT" the green bar gets stuck at about 90% and says it is done downloading.. but it won't let me play. Can anyone please help me?? I am on a Windows 7 PC
#2786 [22:36] <Thrae> napoleon: Do you have any Anti-Virus like AVG Free running? Disable it.
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#2788 [22:40] <napoleon> it was working earlier.. then I tried to do the pre-release update then nothing worked
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#2790 [22:41] <Thrae> napoleon: Are you using Windows?
#2791 [22:41] <napoleon> My dad is trying to help me and neither one of us are very smart with computers.. My dad is a Mac guy and doesn't know his way around a PC very well
#2792 [22:41] <napoleon> Yes.. .Windows 7
#2793 [22:41] <Thrae> ??> napoleon win/reinst/bat
#2794 [22:41] <VoxelHead> napoleon: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2795 [22:41] <VoxelHead> napoleon: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#2796 [22:42] <Thrae> napoleon: Use the batch file to remove Minecraft's downloaded files. If that still doesn't work, disable your AV.
#2797 [22:43] <napoleon> I am sorry I don't know what a batch file is and how to remove it
#2798 [22:43] <Thrae> napoleon: Sometimes AVs will auto-update with a definition that thinks Java is bad. Also try re-downloading the launcher from http://www.minecraft.net/download just in case.
#2799 [22:43] <Thrae> napoleon: Just download the file and then run the file
#2800 [22:43] <napoleon> OK.. I will give it a try.. Thank you very much. Do I need to uninstall it first?
#2801 [22:44] <Thrae> napoleon: You do not need to uninstall your Anti-Virus. If you mean Minecraft, that's what the batch file does (Minecraft isn't "installed" in the Windows sense)
#2802 [22:44] <napoleon> thank you so very very much!!!
#2803 [22:45] <phantomnick> hey i was on here like 10 minutes ago with the question about my email problem and someone told me to send an email to someone over at mojang and i forgot to write down the email
#2804 [22:45] <Thrae> phantomnick: daniel@mojang.com
#2805 [22:45] <phantomnick> thank you
#2806 [22:48] <napoleon> Napoleon!!! You are my hero!!! Thank you:D
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#2813 [23:07] <funzip> Hello, do we just ask the question here?
#2814 [23:07] <ryladine> Yes
#2815 [23:07] <Thrae> ??> funzip ask
#2816 [23:07] <VoxelHead> funzip: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2817 [23:07] <VoxelHead> funzip: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2818 [23:08] <funzip> I'm getting black screen on my Mac when I try to play classic
#2819 [23:10] <Thrae> funzip: OK, do you have OS X version 10.5.8?
#2820 [23:10] <funzip> Let me check..
#2821 [23:10] <funzip> 10.6.8
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#2823 [23:11] <Thrae> funzip: So you don't have a Premium account? You're just trying to play Classic in Safari / whatever browser you use?
#2824 [23:11] <funzip> I do have a premium account, but right now I'm just trying to play classic in safari.
#2825 [23:12] <Thrae> funzip: If you go to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp , does the Java applet work correctly?
#2826 [23:14] <funzip> It's saying my works.
#2827 [23:14] <funzip> mine*
#2828 [23:14] <Thrae> funzip: OK, hmm...well you have Premium, can you login and try Beta?
#2829 [23:14] <funzip> Sure, brb.
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#2831 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Could also just be safari being safari, try a different browser?
#2832 [23:15] <funzip> Yeah, I could try that. As of now I only have safari though.
#2833 [23:16] <funzip> Yup, beta works. Classic just hates me. >.<
#2834 [23:17] <funzip> Probably safari
#2835 [23:17] <Thrae> funzip: Yeah, there are other browsers for Mac...like Firefox
#2836 [23:18] <funzip> True, I'll try firefox. Thanks for your time guys. =P
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#2838 [23:19] <lildrummerdrew> helloo...
#2839 [23:19] <lildrummerdrew> Anyone?
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#2841 [23:20] <Thrae> lildrummerdrew: Yes? Just tell us what's wrong.
#2842 [23:21] <lildrummerdrew> Nothing wrong, I'm just returning from a long time away, seeing what's new here.
#2843 [23:21] <lildrummerdrew> Thrae, I don't recognize you, meaning you wouldn't have known this, sorry.
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#2846 [23:22] <bigpak> Hello
#2847 [23:22] <bigpak> Anyone here?
#2848 [23:22] <bigpak> I am on a mac 10.6.8 and when I play the pre release 2 sometimes at random intervals it crashes
#2849 [23:22] <bigpak> can anyone help me fix this?
#2850 [23:23] <TheNoodle> Read the topic, if your client does not show it to you type /topic #minecrafthelp
#2851 [23:23] <bigpak> I can't get the crash report because it just opens up for about a half a second and then closes.
#2852 [23:23] <bigpak> huh??
#2853 [23:23] <bigpak> where does that link take me?
#2854 [23:23] <TheNoodle> Type "/topic #minecrafthelp" without the '"s
#2855 [23:23] <bigpak> will it help me?
#2856 [23:23] <TheNoodle> "Minecraft 1.9-pre is released. We will not support it until its stable release"
#2857 [23:23] <bigpak> the link that says kealper
#2858 [23:24] <TheNoodle> That will help you yes.
#2859 [23:24] * Kealper rawrs
#2859 [23:24] <bigpak> Okay thanks
#2860 [23:24] <bigpak> Hopefully it will fix it
#2861 [23:24] <bigpak> the noodle you have really helped me a lot and I just wanted to say thanks
#2862 [23:24] <bigpak> I'm such a noob :(
#2863 [23:24] <TheNoodle> You're welcome bigpak :p
#2864 [23:25] <bigpak> :D
#2865 [23:25] <Kealper> how did that link end up in the topic anyways? lol
#2866 [23:25] <Kealper> !motd
#2867 [23:25] <Kealper> oh, that explains it
#2868 [23:25] <Kealper> carry on
#2869 [23:25] <TheNoodle> Kealper, is there a way to direct !motd to another user?
#2870 [23:25] <TheNoodle> !motd
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#2872 [23:25] <Kealper> nope :/
#2873 [23:25] <TheNoodle> :(
#2874 [23:26] <Kealper> i could add that in a few minutes if you wanted me to though
#2875 [23:26] <bigpak> testing now.
#2876 [23:26] <TheNoodle> That would be awesome.
#2877 [23:26] <bigpak> what does it do exactly?
#2878 [23:26] <bigpak> fuck me
#2879 [23:26] * AuBot kicked bigpak from #minecrafthelp (Reason: igpak :Please keep it civil.)
#2880 [23:26] <TheNoodle> :test
#2881 [23:26] <TheNoodle> Kealper, on an unrelated note, could you type ';kthx' please? :P
#2882 [23:27] <Kealper> ;kthx
#2883 [23:27] <Kealper> wat.
#2884 [23:27] <TheNoodle> :test
#2885 [23:27] <WugBot> test: this is a test.
#2886 [23:27] <TheNoodle> Thanks
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#2888 [23:27] <TheNoodle> Someone stfued wugbot, and you had kthx access :p
#2889 [23:27] <bigpak> okay noodle
#2890 [23:27] <bigpak> one more thing
#2891 [23:27] <bigpak> I deleted meta inf
#2892 [23:27] <TheNoodle> Yep
#2893 [23:27] <bigpak> and... black screen :D
#2894 [23:27] <bigpak> after installing it... >.>
#2895 [23:28] * TheNoodle points at kealper it's his mod ask him :P
#2895 [23:28] <Kealper> not my mod
#2896 [23:28] <bigpak> Wanna help me?
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#2898 [23:28] <Kealper> just one of the first ones someone made that fixes the problem
#2899 [23:28] <bigpak> What should I do??/
#2900 [23:28] <Kealper> that u.kealper.com domain is just my url shortener
#2901 [23:28] <Kealper> bigpak: what was the issue? OpenGL 1.3 crash?
#2902 [23:29] <bigpak> umm kinda
#2903 [23:29] <bigpak> like it would just randomly crash saying saving chunks
#2904 [23:29] <bigpak> and then the report would flash for like a milisecond
#2905 [23:29] <bigpak> and then I came here, installed the gl fix and deleted meta inf, and now I just get blackscreen
#2906 [23:29] <bigpak> >.>
#2907 [23:29] <Kealper> in Minecraft 1.8 or 1.9?
#2908 [23:29] <bigpak> 1.9 pre 2
#2909 [23:29] <bigpak> mac 10.6.8
#2910 [23:30] <Kealper> that's why, 1.9 is still in testing, and is bound to have bugs...and that fix in the link is for 1.8 only
#2911 [23:30] <bigpak> oh
#2912 [23:30] <bigpak> ;(
#2913 [23:30] <bigpak> Okay, well hopefully they fix it in 1.9
#2914 [23:30] <Kealper> also in the topic, "Minecraft 1.9-pre is released. We will not support it until its stable release"
#2915 [23:31] <Kealper> most likely yes, they still have many performance bugs to work out before they release it
#2916 [23:31] <bigpak> Okay, well I guess I will just have to deal with the crashes for now, I mean it really doesn't affect me, just randomly closes at times, but it saves!
#2917 [23:31] <bigpak> So it is really just a inconvience
#2918 [23:31] * |Kiikun| gives kealer a rocket propeled trout launcher
#2918 [23:31] <bigpak> it still works, but it's annoying >.>
#2919 [23:31] <Kealper> well, just keep in mind that you are using a development build of Minecraft, and if you wanted a stable version, use 1.8.1
#2920 [23:32] <bigpak> But I want animal breeding
#2921 [23:32] <bigpak> :(
#2922 [23:32] <Kealper> bugs are bound to be plentiful in testing builds
#2923 [23:32] <|Kiikun|> bigpak: you playing a beta of a beta... and breeding will be in soon enough :P
#2924 [23:32] <bigpak> :P
#2925 [23:32] <Thrae> bigpak: That sort of crashing isn't a problem with OpenGL most likely
#2926 [23:32] <bigpak> Okay well thanks for the help guys... Hopefully they will fix it
#2927 [23:32] <Kealper> as for that mod....to remove it just delete Minecraft.jar and put a clean one in there
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#2929 [23:33] <bigpak> in 1.9 atleast.
#2930 [23:33] <bigpak> I did that
#2931 [23:33] <bigpak> I always make backups
#2932 [23:33] <bigpak> :)
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#2934 [23:33] <Thrae> bigpak: Have you tried a brand new world?
#2935 [23:33] <bigpak> yea
#2936 [23:33] <TheNoodle> Or even a whole new world?
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#2938 [23:33] <bigpak> That's what im in now
#2939 [23:33] <bigpak> it still crashes at times
#2940 [23:33] <TheNoodle> A whole fantastic point of view?
#2941 [23:33] <bigpak> ?
#2942 [23:34] <TheNoodle> dw, aladin quotes.
#2943 [23:34] <bigpak> oh
#2944 [23:34] <bigpak> but yea I can deal with the crashes till 1.9
#2945 [23:34] <bigpak> :P
#2946 [23:34] <bigpak> Also noodle
#2947 [23:34] <bigpak> this is kinda offtopic but
#2948 [23:34] <bigpak> do you like the new or old bow better.
#2949 [23:35] <TheNoodle> Speaking as a server admin I like the new one
#2950 [23:36] <TheNoodle> I hated arrow spammers...
#2951 [23:36] <TheNoodle> :p
#2952 [23:36] <menotyou> i would like to thank thrae voxelhead and lemon-rev
#2953 [23:37] <|Kiikun|> ?? bot
#2954 [23:37] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, sometimes a sock-puppet, but never an independant helper.
#2955 [23:37] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2956 [23:37] <menotyou> it turns out that after re-installing the general drivers for the thrid time it decided it wanted to work
#2957 [23:37] <menotyou> thanks guys i appretiate it
#2958 [23:38] <Thrae> menotyou: Sure thing :) Sorry we sent you to the wrong place to get the drivers the first time
#2959 [23:41] <menotyou> all good i think you may have done it right i tryed it before too by myself i guess it just choose to work this time =) XD
#2960 [23:41] <menotyou> either way i'm not questioning it
#2961 [23:41] <menotyou> cya
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#2964 [23:49] <mr_trousers> Anybody here?
#2965 [23:49] <|Kiichan|Schala|> maybe :P
#2966 [23:50] <mr_trousers> Ah. Maybe eh. Sounds more like you ARE here!
#2967 [23:50] <TheNoodle> ..
#2968 [23:50] <|Kiichan|Schala|> well im not where you are.. or where the server is :P
#2969 [23:51] <|Kiichan|Schala|> aw..
#2970 [23:51] <|Kiichan|Schala|> hi nood
#2971 [23:54] <TheNoodle> Hey :p