#MinecraftHelp > 2011-10-06
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#3 [00:02] <guest-0-36154> Hello?
#4 [00:02] <guest-0-36154> I need some help with my Minecraft.
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#6 [00:03] <guest-0-36154> I need some help with my minecraft.
#7 [00:03] <guest-0-36154> You wouldn't be able to do anything, would you?
#8 [00:03] <TheNoodle> Firslty
#9 [00:03] <TheNoodle> Type /nick <name> to change your name.
#10 [00:03] <guest-0-36154> Fine.
#11 [00:03] <TheNoodle> Secondly, state your problem.
#12 [00:03] <ScrooLewse> Its simple, really.
#13 [00:04] <ScrooLewse> I've used 7-zip to open my game, now how do I put the mods in?
#14 [00:04] <TheNoodle> Well you could try dragging them.
#15 [00:04] <ScrooLewse> Where do I put them, I mean.
#16 [00:04] <TheNoodle> Remember two things, 1) delete the meta-inf folder 2) ...
#17 [00:04] <TheNoodle> ?? mods
#18 [00:04] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#19 [00:05] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#20 [00:05] <ScrooLewse> Thank you, both of you.
#21 [00:05] <ScrooLewse> Thanks, noodle for the help and Voxel for the redirect.
#22 [00:05] <TheNoodle> ?? bot
#23 [00:05] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, sometimes a sock-puppet, but never an independant helper.
#24 [00:05] <TheNoodle> So just me :p
#25 [00:06] <ScrooLewse> lol
#26 [00:06] <TheNoodle> All on my lonesome...
#27 [00:06] <ScrooLewse> I'd shoot the breeze with you, but this is help discussion only and I don't want to spam-up the IRC.
#28 [00:07] <TheNoodle> Only when there's people that need help :p
#29 [00:07] <TheNoodle> On that note, anyone need help?
#30 [00:09] <ScrooLewse> ...appearantly not.
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#33 [00:25] <lansiirserver> !check silent.0xffservers.com:25566
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#35 [00:30] <lansiirserver> Old news for a lot of you, but Steve jobs is DEAD. http://www.apple.com/
#36 [00:30] * GreyVulpine points to topic
#36 [00:30] <TheNoodle> lansiirserver, please don't send to every channel.
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#38 [00:37] <mib_kmwu7d> when i try to sign into to minecraft it tells me minecraft crashed
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#40 [00:39] <username> anyone know why it tells me minecrsft has crashed everytime i try to get in?
#41 [00:39] <raisin> can someone help me I have a minecraft probelem
#42 [00:40] <raisin> that is my probelem too
#43 [00:40] <raisin> minecraft crashing
#44 [00:41] <username> and theres no one anywhere to help us lol
#45 [00:41] <raisin> hehe
#46 [00:41] <raisin> ya that is funny
#47 [00:41] <username> well guess ill try to figure this out some other way
#48 [00:42] <Wug> tbs: lol angry bird
#49 [00:42] <raisin> um do you know minecraft??
#50 [00:43] <TheNoodle> ..
#51 [00:43] <TheNoodle> Never heard of minecraft :/
#52 [00:43] <TheNoodle> What is it?
#53 [00:44] <TheBadShepperd> No
#54 [00:44] <TheBadShepperd> No we don't.
#55 [00:44] <raisin> awww
#56 [00:44] <raisin> that sucks
#57 [00:44] <TheBadShepperd> Why in jebus's name would you assume a channel named #MinecraftHelp knew about Minecraft?
#58 [00:44] <raisin> i dont know i am just confused ok
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#61 [00:44] <raisin> it is where you break and place blocks it is really fun
#62 [00:44] <TheNoodle> Not sure if troll...
#63 [00:45] <raisin> can someone help me
#64 [00:45] <raisin> ??
#65 [00:45] <raisin> PLEASE
#66 [00:46] <lemon-rev> raisin whats up
#67 [00:46] * TheNoodle feels bad now
#67 [00:46] <lemon-rev> lol
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#69 [00:47] * lemon-rev just a regular ocurance and things like that well you just live with :)
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#71 [00:48] <TheNoodle> raisin, could you be more specific?
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#73 [00:48] <raisin> um i have a crash in minecraft
#74 [00:48] <raisin> can you help me
#75 [00:48] <raisin> ??
#76 [00:48] <lemon-rev> raisin whats up
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#80 [00:49] <TheNoodle> Raisin, we need more details, is there a black screen? where does it crash? what operating system are you using?
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#82 [00:50] <raisin> ok so i forgot the username and pass word for minecraft it is my brothers account and so i go on play off line and i wanted to download a mod and now it crashs
#83 [00:50] <TheNoodle> ?? mods
#84 [00:50] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#85 [00:50] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#86 [00:50] <raisin> IT SUCKS AND I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO
#87 [00:50] <raisin> mods like mo creatures
#88 [00:50] <lemon-rev> raisin we could help you get mc to run again but yu need that user and password
#89 [00:50] <raisin> with the cats
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#91 [00:51] <raisin> ok
#92 [00:51] <lemon-rev> raisin try /j #risucraft but i strongly surgest you get your username and password first
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#94 [00:51] <theunknown2532> Hey guys
#95 [00:51] <raisin> i am trying to but my brother is in air force right now
#96 [00:51] <TheNoodle> Hello theunknown2532.
#97 [00:51] <theunknown2532> Does anyone use WorldEdit? because I can't find config.yml
#98 [00:51] <TheNoodle> Ask in #worldedit
#99 [00:52] <theunknown2532> k thx
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#102 [00:53] <raisin> so can someone help me
#103 [00:53] <TheNoodle> We can help you retrieve your account details.
#104 [00:53] <raisin> how
#105 [00:53] <raisin> ??
#106 [00:54] <TheNoodle> Do you have access to the email address used to register the account?
#107 [00:54] <raisin> ya
#108 [00:55] <TheNoodle> Excellent, do you remember your username?
#109 [00:55] <raisin> for minecraft
#110 [00:55] <raisin> ya
#111 [00:55] <raisin> but not the pass
#112 [00:55] <TheNoodle> What is your username?
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#114 [00:55] <raisin> xdcreptoid
#115 [00:56] <raisin> can you figure it out
#116 [00:56] <raisin> ??
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#118 [00:56] <TheNoodle> Okay, an email has been sent to the address registered to that account detailing how to reset your password.
#119 [00:57] <TheNoodle> For help with your mod problem join #risucraft
#120 [00:57] <raisin> but i dont want to reset the pass
#121 [00:58] <raisin> then my brother wont know
#122 [00:59] <Thrae> raisin: When you login to minecraft.net with your reset password you can just change the password to whatever you want.
#123 [00:59] <raisin> ya but it is my brothers account
#124 [00:59] <raisin> i am just using it
#125 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> Do you know the password?
#126 [01:00] <raisin> no
#127 [01:00] <raisin> :(
#128 [01:00] <Jackson413> rip steve jobs
#129 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> This is why I don't really like helping people who 'share' accounts
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#131 [01:01] <raisin> ok i will just ask my brother for the user and pass
#132 [01:01] <raisin> thank you to all the people trying to help me
#133 [01:02] <Jackson413> am i the only one that just figured that out
#134 [01:02] <raisin> ?
#135 [01:02] <raisin> ok one more question how did minecraft crash on me
#136 [01:03] <TheNoodle> Chances are it was caused by the mod you installed.
#137 [01:03] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Jackson413: nah. it been getting mentioned from time to time
#138 [01:03] <bnm> iii uʍop əpısdn ɯ'I
#139 [01:03] <Jackson413> well ill miss that lovable basterd
#140 [01:03] <raisin> o ok
#141 [01:03] <raisin> thank you
#142 [01:04] <|Kiichan|Schala|> wuq?
#143 [01:04] <Wug> I do not personally like what steve jobs has done with his company
#144 [01:04] <Wug> but it is a shame that he died
#145 [01:04] <Wug> its a shame when anyone dies.
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#148 [01:04] <|Kiichan|Schala|> also wug, the looked horrible on my screen :P
#149 [01:05] <Wug> alright, enough sentimentality from Wug for today
#150 [01:05] <Jackson413> he was just brilliant
#151 [01:05] <Wug> you're gonna think I've gone soft or something
#152 [01:05] <|Kiichan|Schala|> bah!
#153 [01:05] <Jackson413> i wasnt a mac person, but i am an iPod person
#154 [01:05] <Wug> I don't really like ipods either
#155 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> Hate apple's products, but the guy was alright
#156 [01:05] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Wug: when you start cuddling the mibs and treatung them as your own personal plushie army.. then ill worry.
#157 [01:06] <Wug> there is simply not enough space
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#159 [01:11] <Thrae> Wug: Not enough space on an iPod?
#160 [01:12] <|Kiichan|Schala|> i agree for nano. 8 and 16gb just aint enough space :P
#161 [01:13] <|Kiichan|Schala|> but if you seriously need to carry around 320g of music with you 24/7.... you need help
#162 [01:13] * Thrae mostly listens to music from video games...8-bit and 16-bit
#162 [01:13] * |Kiichan|Schala| likes anime music, rock/metal, and game/ocremix
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#163 [01:23] <Coll> 8gigs is enough for me
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#167 [01:42] <Wug> Thrae: theyre overly tiny and expensive
#168 [01:42] <Wug> $250 for 8GB
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#170 [01:53] <mastermoleme> hello?
#171 [01:53] <TheNoodle> Hello!
#172 [01:54] <mastermoleme> hey i need help
#173 [01:54] <TheNoodle> And what is your problem?
#174 [01:54] <mastermoleme> when i try to run one of my worlds in minecraft it just shows a black screen
#175 [01:55] <TheNoodle> Does it only happen in that world?
#176 [01:55] <mastermoleme> this has the same result on the browser 1 and downloaded 1
#177 [01:55] <mastermoleme> no it happens on all my worlds
#178 [01:55] <mastermoleme> its started as soon i the new update came out
#179 [01:55] <TheNoodle> ?? java/version
#180 [01:55] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#181 [01:55] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#182 [01:56] <mastermoleme> k 1 sec
#183 [01:57] <mastermoleme> nah i have the most current version
#184 [01:57] <mastermoleme> i just checked
#185 [01:58] <ChuckDarwin> is there a way, on single player to give yourself eggs? :p
#186 [01:58] <mastermoleme> ???
#187 [01:59] <ChuckDarwin> i want to start a chicken farm.. and i'm unable to find myself eggs
#188 [01:59] <ChuckDarwin> chasing chickens around all day
#189 [01:59] <mastermoleme> noodle, i just read the red writing at the tp
#190 [02:00] <mastermoleme> i am using a mac
#191 [02:00] <mastermoleme> is that the reason y it wont work
#192 [02:00] <TheNoodle> That depends, are you using lion?
#193 [02:00] <mastermoleme> i dont think so
#194 [02:00] <mastermoleme> i think im using leopard
#195 [02:00] <TheNoodle> ChuckDarwin, an inventory editor.
#196 [02:01] <ChuckDarwin> do you know the HEX, location? or a good inventory editor?
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#199 [02:03] <mastermoleme> so noodle any ideas?
#200 [02:03] <TheNoodle> Sorry chuck, I don't really play minecraft anymore. A quick google search will probably help you.
#201 [02:03] <TheNoodle> mastermoleme, you never gave me your java version.
#202 [02:04] <mastermoleme> it wouldnt tell me it just said go to see if i had the most current
#203 [02:04] <waub> does anyone knowwhat's the problem with minecraft's credit card payment system. or how to work around it, etc?
#204 [02:04] <ChuckDarwin> i found a great way around it
#205 [02:05] <TheNoodle> Waub, try using paypal and using your credit card there instead.
#206 [02:05] <ChuckDarwin> have a friend buy the game for you, no credit card payment required
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#208 [02:10] <Zaikuden> hello
#209 [02:10] * TheNoodle waves
#209 [02:10] <Zaikuden> I can't log into minecraft
#210 [02:10] <Zaikuden> the game
#211 [02:10] <Zaikuden> the website I can log into no problem
#212 [02:11] <Zaikuden> but even after changing my password a couple times i still can't log in my premium account
#213 [02:11] <TheNoodle> redownload the client.
#214 [02:11] <TheNoodle> !client
#215 [02:12] <Zaikuden> k thanks
#216 [02:13] <Zaikuden> huzzah and it works
#217 [02:13] <TheNoodle> ^_^
#218 [02:13] <Zaikuden> thank you very much
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#220 [02:13] <MikeyIsMe> anyone who can help here?
#221 [02:14] <TheNoodle> ?? ask
#222 [02:14] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#223 [02:14] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#224 [02:14] <TheNoodle> Zaikuden, you're welcome.
#225 [02:14] <MikeyIsMe> oh ok
#226 [02:14] <MikeyIsMe> umm
#227 [02:14] <MikeyIsMe> but im just reading up there..
#228 [02:14] <MikeyIsMe> OS X doesnt work with minecraft right now?
#229 [02:15] <MikeyIsMe> gotta wait till 1.9 it said?
#230 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Specifically, 10.5.8 has an issue with minecraft
#231 [02:15] <MikeyIsMe> ahhh
#232 [02:15] <MikeyIsMe> yes thats me
#233 [02:15] <MikeyIsMe> well that explains a lot <3
#234 [02:15] <rymate1234> lol
#235 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, you can either wait for the official 1.9 release, try out the buggy pre-release, or attempt to use a fan-made mod for 1.8.1
#236 [02:16] <MikeyIsMe> ok thanks a lot :)
#237 [02:17] <MikeyIsMe> cause ive been half killing myself over this the past few days :P
#238 [02:18] * GreyVulpine nods
#238 [02:24] <TheNoodle> !paid kramer
#239 [02:27] <rymate1234> !paid Kramer
#240 [02:27] <rymate1234> !paid rymate1234
#241 [02:27] <rymate1234> !paid AuBot
#242 [02:27] <rymate1234> \o/
#243 [02:28] <Wug> Kealper:
#244 [02:28] <Kealper> rawr
#245 [02:28] <Wug> Kealper: you know what you should do
#246 [02:28] <Kealper> no, but i get the feeling i will in a few minutes lol
#247 [02:30] <rymate1234> \o/
#248 [02:30] <rymate1234> Oh wait
#249 [02:30] <rymate1234> Thought that was WugBot speaking then
#250 [02:30] <rymate1234> :D
#251 [02:30] <Wug> wugbot's on sick leave until I figure out why its segfaulting
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#254 [02:32] <rymate1234> fu
#255 [02:32] <TheNoodle> Wug, we did have some timeouts earlier.
#256 [02:34] <Wug> Kealper: http://aquinas.student.rit.edu/minecraft/2011-10-06_02.33.22.png
#257 [02:34] <Kealper> Wug: gg
#258 [02:34] <Wug> also apparently the username is case sensitive
#259 [02:34] <Kealper> indeed it is
#260 [02:35] <Wug> if I use just Aubot it fails to verify
#261 [02:35] <Wug> WELL THIS WAS FUN
#262 [02:35] <Kealper> when you log in, it'll tell your client the correct case in the login stuff, and if you don't have it exactly as the login response told you it fails
#263 [02:35] * Wug locks away in vault of previous grand hackeries
#263 [02:36] <Kealper> i should move my vault of the stuff i'm not proud of...it's just in a folder called "BAD SHIT"
#264 [02:37] <Wug> lol
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#270 [03:06] <guest-0-35114> Hello? o.o
#271 [03:07] * TheNoodle waves
#271 [03:07] <guest-0-35114> Huzzah! :D
#272 [03:07] <guest-0-35114> I gotta ask. Is anyone else's copy of Minecraft screwing up right now? :/
#273 [03:08] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#274 [03:10] <guest-0-35114> Hm. Alrighty then. For some reason, mine will run for like... A minute, before just up and crashing on me. Plus, for some reason, the chests are smaller by a few pixels, and seem to be surrounded in a block of black mist. Got no clue what's goin' on, but I'm pretty sure that's bad.
#275 [03:11] <Wug> force update
#276 [03:11] <guest-0-35114> Add to that, I thought it was a mod issue at first, so I just deleted all my minecraft folders and all that, and downloaded a fully new, fresh one, with no mods... But it still did the same thing. :/ It's giving me a crash report though.
#277 [03:11] <Wug> idk then
#278 [03:11] <guest-0-35114> Crud muffins.
#279 [03:11] <Wug> play with graphical settings?
#280 [03:11] <guest-0-35114> Naw. Once again, it just crashes still.
#281 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> Error report?
#282 [03:12] <guest-0-35114> Plus, if I remember correctly, that block of black mist around the chests is something having to do with the pistons, that shade-like block thing...
#283 [03:12] <Wug> pastebin the cras ^
#284 [03:12] <guest-0-35114> Ah, one sec.
#285 [03:13] <guest-0-35114> The name of the document, right? Like... hs_err_pid17000 right?
#286 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#287 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Copy the contents of it to pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#288 [03:13] <guest-0-35114> I have two of them, though the other's name is different, hs_err_pid18300
#289 [03:13] <guest-0-35114> pastebin? Kaykay.
#290 [03:14] <Wug> looks like either a memory issue or graphics drivers
#291 [03:14] <Wug> based on the fact that its a java crash
#292 [03:18] <guest-0-35114> http://pastebin.com/SZSetfmk
#293 [03:19] <guest-0-35114> There's the 70000 one. o.o
#294 [03:19] <guest-0-35114> Would you still need the other, or are they both similar enough?
#295 [03:20] <guest-0-35114> Well, just tried playing it a bit. o.o It seemed to stop crashing. But the chests are still a lil' wacked out.
#296 [03:21] <Wug> looks an awful lot like a graphics driver issue
#297 [03:21] <Wug> try updating that
#298 [03:21] <guest-0-35114> Got'cha. o.o Any way to fix this?
#299 [03:21] <guest-0-35114> Kaykay. :3 Danke!
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#306 [03:53] <ace442> Hi, I emailed mojang because I couldn't log into my account and received a number but its been a week since last communication. What can I do?
#307 [03:59] <ace442> 158 lurkers? sigh
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#311 [04:14] <BlackBird> Hello. I e-mailed Mojang directly via support@mojang.com, emailed Notch directly, AND used the form to contact support (and got an autoresponse from support+id23914@mojang.zendesk.com) and havent had a response in quite a while - it's been about 2 months now. I know my username, but forgot my password. I included all the payment info. The problem is, I no longer have the e-mail account
#312 [04:14] <BlackBird> I registered with (and it's gmail, so I can't get it back). any ideas? I've been e-mailing those addresses quite regularly.
#313 [04:15] * TheNoodle waves
#313 [04:15] <TheNoodle> Nothing we can do.
#314 [04:15] <TheNoodle> wait
#315 [04:15] <TheNoodle> actually
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#317 [04:15] <TheNoodle> Pretty sure you could try daniel@mojang.whateveritis
#318 [04:15] <TheNoodle> I think it's daniel :p
#319 [04:16] <Kaioshi> !paid ace442
#320 [04:16] <BlackBird> cool I'll give that a try. thanks!
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#322 [04:19] <Kaioshi> do Mojang actually have an official support contact mail? (which replies to problems.)
#323 [04:20] <BlackBird> supposedly, but I've been emailing that and notch's for quite some time with no response :(
#324 [04:21] <Silent_Samurai> Is there some bloody way to fix all these end of stream errors?
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#328 [04:31] <VeVenyaWazHere> Question : How can i get the java error message when minecraft crashes (blackscreen closes the error screen too fast)
#329 [04:32] <VeVenyaWazHere> any way to output it to a .log file ?
#330 [04:34] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#331 [04:38] <VeVenyaWazHere> Gracias Amigo
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#333 [04:41] <VeVenyaWazHere> still not working though .. tried : javaw -Xincgc -Xmx2048m -Xms1024m -jar %appdata%\.minecraft\bin\minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#334 [04:42] <VeVenyaWazHere> complains about the jar being corrupt
#335 [04:44] <VeVenyaWazHere> oops -jar should have been -cp .. my bad
#336 [04:45] <VeVenyaWazHere> ah frack it ... aint working at all .. stupid mojang for not outputting errors to a log
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#341 [04:56] <Silent_Samurai> VeVenyaWazHere, Try just java
#342 [04:56] <Silent_Samurai> Not javaw
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#350 [05:05] <semajwilko> cant get minecraft to work wont play in browers just goes all white and my page does not responde and cant get it to work downloaded please help
#351 [05:06] <semajwilko> anyone
#352 [05:07] <semajwilko> some help this is
#353 [05:07] <semajwilko> what a waste of time
#354 [05:09] <semajwilko> minecraft help my arse
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#356 [05:10] <semajwilko> help anyone no
#357 [05:11] <semajwilko> what is the point of this thing if theres noones here to help
#358 [05:12] <Kaioshi> they are here a lot of the time
#359 [05:12] <Kaioshi> think they're asleep at the moment
#360 [05:12] <TheNoodle> Update java.
#361 [05:12] <GreyVulpine> The point of this thing, is that people that provide help here, volunteer their time to. They do not work for Mojang, nor do they get paid by Mojang.
#362 [05:12] <TheNoodle> :p
#363 [05:12] <semajwilko> already updated java
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#365 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> semajwilko - What java do you run?
#366 [05:13] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? What browser are you using?
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#368 [05:13] <semajwilko> erm java just updated now is 26 or something
#369 [05:14] <semajwilko> and op systems one second
#370 [05:15] <GreyVulpine> It's a simple question. Are you running Windows? Mac? Linux? What browser are you on? Internet explorer? Firefox? Chrome? Opera? Safari?
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#376 [05:20] <semajwilko> windows xp, internet explorer..... i had to asnwer door sorry
#377 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> semajwilko - Have you tried other browsers?
#378 [05:21] <semajwilko> no wot would you suggest
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#380 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> Just wondering. From the sound of it, I'm pretty sure it's either java or video drivers.
#381 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> Have you updated your video drivers recently?
#382 [05:23] <GreyVulpine> Also, have you gotten minecraft to work before at all?
#383 [05:23] <semajwilko> no i tryed playing it on my intel but it kept saying error on video card drivers, iv tryed it on this and it hasnt said that but i would i update them for this
#384 [05:23] <semajwilko> no not at all
#385 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> Please give me a dxdiag. Will allow me to see your system's specifications.
#386 [05:24] <GreyVulpine> ??> semajwilko win/dxdiag
#387 [05:24] <VoxelHead> semajwilko: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#388 [05:24] <VoxelHead> semajwilko: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#389 [05:25] <semajwilko> right say that in english im no computer wizz
#390 [05:25] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what the windows key is on your keyboard?
#391 [05:25] <semajwilko> no
#392 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a key between the ctrl and alt keys, in the lower left, looks like a windows logo?
#393 [05:26] <semajwilko> or shit ye ha sorry
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#395 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Please press that and the R key at the same time. Will bring up the Run command
#396 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> At the run command, please type in: dxdiag
#397 [05:26] <semajwilko> yes
#398 [05:26] <Unhappyrightnow> Pleas help me fix my minecraft
#399 [05:26] <GreyVulpine> Once you get to the directx diagnostic console, you'll see a "save all information" button
#400 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> Unhappyrightnow - Please describe your problem
#401 [05:27] <semajwilko> yes
#402 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> semajwilko - Once you press the "Save all information" button, please save it on your desktop
#403 [05:27] <GreyVulpine> semajwilko - You'll then open the text file on your desktop and copy everything inside. Go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it there. Press the submit button, then copy the address in your browser here
#404 [05:27] <Unhappyrightnow> It says i have bad video card drivers when i open minecraft
#405 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> Unhappyrightnow - What operating system are you on?
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#407 [05:28] <Unhappyrightnow> Windows Xp
#408 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> Please give us a dxdiag
#409 [05:28] <GreyVulpine> ??> Unhappyrightnow win/dxdiag
#410 [05:28] <VoxelHead> Unhappyrightnow: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#411 [05:28] <VoxelHead> Unhappyrightnow: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#412 [05:29] <semajwilko> iv done that
#413 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> semajwilko - What is the address after you pressed submit?
#414 [05:30] <semajwilko> where would it say the address
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#416 [05:30] <GreyVulpine> Where did you put in http://www.pastebin.com?
#417 [05:30] <semajwilko> yes
#418 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> Where did you put in http://www.pastebin.com?
#419 [05:31] <semajwilko> http://pastebin.com/2tv7ZjXU
#420 [05:31] <Unhappyrightnow> http://pastebin.com/1ACAuPDP
#421 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that's a pretty dated system semajwilko...
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#423 [05:31] <semajwilko> thanks i think
#424 [05:31] <Puddles> 안녕
#425 [05:31] <Puddles> 안녕 마인크유저들
#426 [05:32] <Puddles> 못 알아 듣나..?
#427 [05:32] <Unhappyrightnow> there is my dxdiag Grey
#428 [05:32] <GreyVulpine> Unhappyrightnow - One moment
#429 [05:32] <Puddles> Hi guys i'm Korea boy!
#430 [05:32] <GreyVulpine> Unhappyrightnow - Please go here:
#431 [05:32] <Unhappyrightnow> Sorry sir
#432 [05:32] <GreyVulpine> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=4138625&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=4138624&swLang=13&taskId=135&swEnvOID=1093#11360
#433 [05:32] <Puddles> Fucking japan
#434 [05:32] * AuBot kicked Puddles from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uddles :Please keep it civil.)
#435 [05:32] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to download and install the intel device drivers there Unhappyrightnow
#436 [05:33] <Unhappyrightnow> The grapics ones?
#437 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> Unhappyrightnow - Yes
#438 [05:33] <GreyVulpine> semajwilko - One moment, I'll see if I can pull up a later driver for you
#439 [05:33] <semajwilko> thank you
#440 [05:33] <Unhappyrightnow> Both? of them
#441 [05:34] <GreyVulpine> Unhappyrightnow - Just the first one
#442 [05:34] <Unhappyrightnow> ok
#443 [05:35] <GreyVulpine> semajwilko - You can try these drivers here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/integrated_mce-xp.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.2.3.2&lang=English
#444 [05:35] <GreyVulpine> semajwilko - I just want to emphasize that your system is pretty old, so even if it could run minecraft, it wouldn't run it well
#445 [05:35] <GreyVulpine> semajwilko - Your system has less than a gig of RAM, and a single core processor, a system that's likely pushing 8-10 years old.
#446 [05:36] <semajwilko> right what would be best to play it on
#447 [05:36] <Unhappyrightnow> my gaming comp has 16gb of ram :) it runs minecraft like a charm
#448 [05:36] <GreyVulpine> Anything newer, dedicated graphics would be preferable, and at least a gig and a half of RAM or more
#449 [05:36] <Unhappyrightnow> but this laptop running MC sucks...
#450 [05:37] <GreyVulpine> Just the graphics on the laptop, intel HD graphics, aren't known to be.. gaming oriented
#451 [05:37] <Unhappyrightnow> :) yeah
#452 [05:37] <Unhappyrightnow> on my gaming i got a a nivida 560ti
#453 [05:37] <semajwilko> i wont my money bk now pointless paying for a game i cant play but what are chances of that
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#455 [05:38] <GreyVulpine> Refund policy can be found at http://www.minecraft.net/support
#456 [05:38] <Unhappyrightnow> ill have your account :)
#457 [05:38] <Unhappyrightnow> But dont give up your hopes
#458 [05:38] <Unhappyrightnow> it says i dont have admin rights
#459 [05:39] <GreyVulpine> Erm, are you an admin on that computer?
#460 [05:40] <Unhappyrightnow> No, but the files are installed
#461 [05:40] <semajwilko> it says We do not issue refunds for purchased games but people at the irc channel #MinecraftHelp, who in most cases might be able to help you right away. so if you cant help do i get my money bk
#462 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#463 [05:41] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft accounts aren't tied to the computer that you purchased it under. If and when you get access to another computer, you can install and play minecraft on that instead
#464 [05:41] <Unhappyrightnow> ok grey i see the program files of where it installed
#465 [05:41] <semajwilko> shocking.....it should state you need a shit hot pc to play a game thats made of blocks
#466 [05:42] <GreyVulpine> Blocks, in an unlimited world, where there's dozens of block types out there and hundreds of entities
#467 [05:43] <Unhappyrightnow> Grey what can i do?
#468 [05:43] <GreyVulpine> Are you not an admin on that computer Unhappyrightnow?
#469 [05:43] <Unhappyrightnow> Yes
#470 [05:44] <Unhappyrightnow> i am not
#471 [05:44] <Unhappyrightnow> admin
#472 [05:44] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to be admin to install those drivers
#473 [05:44] <semajwilko> i supose but still should have a refund policy for people who cant play theyv just got free money from me and probly plenty of others
#474 [05:45] <Unhappyrightnow> is there a way i can like drag the files in the folder?
#475 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> Unhappyrightnow - No. You'll need to be on an admin account to install those drivers
#476 [05:46] <Unhappyrightnow> Damn it
#477 [05:46] <Unhappyrightnow> :(
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#484 [05:53] <Viking667> This sounds like a dumb question, but - how many iron bars do I need to make 1100 units of rail?
#485 [05:54] <Viking667> The sticks I already worked out as 1/16 (69) sticks.
#486 [05:54] <|Kiikun|> 1100/16*6
#487 [05:54] <Viking667> Yeah, I had figured it might be something like that.
#488 [05:54] <|Kiikun|> 412.5
#489 [05:54] <Viking667> oooo. 413
#490 [05:54] <|Kiikun|> :P
#491 [05:55] <|Kiikun|> round up.
#492 [05:55] <Viking667> ... and that doesn't take into account the powered rail I'd need.
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#494 [05:55] <|Kiikun|> youll have extra
#495 [05:55] <|Kiikun|> what the hell ARE you building?
#496 [05:55] <Viking667> I'll need more powered rail to climb up, but once I'm on the straight run, how many metres can I travel before I need more power?
#497 [05:56] <Viking667> Well, I just achieved "On The Rails" in creative mode, but I think I need to know what to do in survival mode.
#498 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> Viking667 - Depends on whether you want full momentum, or to just continue movement
#499 [05:56] <|Kiikun|> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Powered_Rail#Optimal_Use
#500 [05:57] <Viking667> Ah huh. I might have to bring that up...
#501 [05:57] <Viking667> I guess in SSP it doesn't matter how fast I achieve it, only that I achieve it sometime before night fall.
#502 [05:57] * Viking667 brings up the lappie
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#505 [06:07] <Has400> I was here b4
#506 [06:08] <Viking667> GreyVulpine: thanks for that. I'll need to look at that tomorrow. It's simply too late for the braincells here
#507 [06:08] <Has400> GreyVulpine
#508 [06:09] <Has400> Why is it that MC works used to work inbrowser mode b4 `.7.3 but now it doesnt
#509 [06:09] <Has400> 1.7.3*
#510 [06:10] <tyteen4a03> Has400: What operation system do you use?
#511 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Did you use any mods?
#512 [06:10] <Has400> No
#513 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Any HD texture packs?
#514 [06:10] <Has400> No
#515 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try to use the in-browser client now?
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#517 [06:11] <Has400> white screen then Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 6/10/11 9:11 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Windows XP (x86)
#518 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> Ah, then you'll need to update your video card's drivers
#519 [06:12] <Has400> and i cant
#520 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you?
#521 [06:12] <Has400> admin
#522 [06:12] <Has400> i though it would be differnt
#523 [06:12] <Has400> because i used to be able 2
#524 [06:13] <Has400> But i have never been able 2 on my proper desktop client
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#527 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> 1.8.1 changed the graphics requirement slightly. Just because you could before, doesn't mean there's a definite chance it will now
#528 [06:14] <GreyVulpine> If it says you need to update your video drivers, that's what you're going to need to do. If you don't have admin access on that computer, there's nothing you can do
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#533 [06:31] <BJNOOB> hi i keep getting a 404 error on
#534 [06:31] <BJNOOB> http://www.minecraft.net/profile/doCorrectName
#535 [06:32] <BJNOOB> when i try to fix my username
#536 [06:33] <|Kiikun|> http://www.minecraft.net/profile/correctName
#537 [06:33] <|Kiikun|> typo in the links :P
#538 [06:34] <BJNOOB> ahh thanks
#539 [06:34] <BJNOOB> so theres a glitch in the way you need to fix a glitch
#540 [06:34] * |Kiikun| go bed back now
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#541 [06:35] <|Kiikun|> BJNOOB: yup :P
#542 [06:35] <|Kiikun|> im fairly sure someone at mojang know about ti and its on the list of 'things to fix on the website'
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#544 [06:36] <rumpler> hi \
#545 [06:37] <rumpler> i need some help
#546 [06:37] <rumpler> i got an bad video card drivers so wat to do??
#547 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> Update your video card's drivers
#548 [06:37] <BJNOOB> um well that wasnt the problem when i press submit it takes me there and
#549 [06:37] <BJNOOB> 404
#550 [06:37] <rumpler> oke how im so smart
#551 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> rumpler - What operating system are you on?
#552 [06:38] <rumpler> ??? windows xp??
#553 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Give us a dxdiag
#554 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> ??> rumpler win/dxdiag
#555 [06:38] <VoxelHead> rumpler: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#556 [06:38] <VoxelHead> rumpler: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#557 [06:38] <rumpler> i dont got a win key
#558 [06:39] <rumpler> .
#559 [06:39] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ?? win/key
#560 [06:39] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#561 [06:39] <rumpler> oke
#562 [06:40] <rumpler> specifield?
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#564 [06:40] <rumpler> HF
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#566 [06:41] <rumpler> pampampampam
#567 [06:41] <rumpler> .......
#568 [06:41] <rumpler> dont got it
#569 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> What is the key on your keyboard, in the lower left, between the ctrl and alt keys?
#570 [06:41] <BJNOOB> press the button that looks like the windows logo
#571 [06:41] <rumpler> oke only that?
#572 [06:41] <BJNOOB> and R
#573 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Press that, and the R key at the same time
#574 [06:42] <rumpler> oke
#575 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> Got the run command?
#576 [06:42] <rumpler> i got it
#577 [06:42] <rumpler> yes
#578 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> Great, type in: dxdiag
#579 [06:42] <rumpler> oke
#580 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> If it asks for WQRL, just say yes
#581 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> In the directx diagnostic console, do you see a button in the lower right? Says "Save all information"
#582 [06:43] <rumpler> wait
#583 [06:43] <rumpler> he is intalling
#584 [06:43] <rumpler> something
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#586 [06:43] <rumpler> must i click next page??
#587 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> In the directx diagnostic console, do you see a button in the lower right? Says "Save all information"
#588 [06:44] <rumpler> i take a loook
#589 [06:44] <rumpler> yes i see
#590 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Press that, save the file on your desktop
#591 [06:44] <rumpler> oke
#592 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Now, go to your desktop, open the file up, go up to Edit-> select all
#593 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Then Edit -> copy
#594 [06:45] <rumpler> oke
#595 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Open up your browser, go to http://www.pastebin.com
#596 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Click in the text box there, paste the text there, then press the submit button
#597 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> What is the address at the top of the browser when you pressed the submit button?
#598 [06:46] <rumpler> must i paste the hole program or the texst
#599 [06:46] <rumpler> ??
#600 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> The text from the file
#601 [06:47] <rumpler> oke i connot paste an empty paste
#602 [06:48] <rumpler> i be back over 2 hours
#603 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> Did you paste the text into the text box?
#604 [06:48] <rumpler> must go to school cya
#605 [06:48] * GreyVulpine waves
#605 [06:48] * GreyVulpine sighs
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#608 [06:55] <Sardonicus> trying to purchase Minecraft again
#609 [06:56] <Sardonicus> "Unfortunately we are unable to process this transaction. You may cancel your payment or choose another payment method. "
#610 [06:56] <Sardonicus> at Direct Debit
#611 [06:57] <Sardonicus> now I hit return to Merchant and it says
#612 [06:57] <Sardonicus> "Thank you for purchasing Minecraft! Your status should update within the hour. "
#613 [06:58] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Sardonicus: it always says that when coming back from the payments page.
#614 [06:58] <Sardonicus> ok
#615 [06:58] <Sardonicus> ok so Minecraft is unpayable
#616 [06:58] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Sardonicus: just try another way to pay.
#617 [06:58] <Sardonicus> long live piracy
#618 [06:58] <Sardonicus> how...
#619 [06:58] <Sardonicus> I have no other choice
#620 [06:58] <Sardonicus> only piracy
#621 [06:58] <Sardonicus> :)
#622 [06:58] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Sardonicus: paypal?
#623 [06:59] <Sardonicus> dunno
#624 [06:59] <Sardonicus> how does that work
#625 [06:59] <Sardonicus> I have a bank account
#626 [06:59] <Sardonicus> there my money is upon
#627 [07:01] <|Kiikun|Janus|> if you ONLY have a bank acount.. then youll prob ably have to fully register a paypal account
#628 [07:01] <|Kiikun|Janus|> they can draw from checkign accounts once its all authenticated.
#629 [07:02] <Sardonicus> ok well I've give it a try but how does it work
#630 [07:02] <Sardonicus> why do we have to need a third party inbetween?
#631 [07:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Sardonicus: theres always a third party. mojang doesnt take the payments directly. you either use moneybookers or paypal. they get the money from you and pass it to mojang. mojang then upgrades your account to premium
#632 [07:04] <|Kiikun|Janus|> moneybookers is the generally prefered one and the default if just putting in credit card info.
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#634 [07:06] <Sardonicus> and moneybookers doesn#t work at direct bla
#635 [07:07] <|Kiikun|Janus|> 'direct debit' meaning your putting in your bank info.. like off a check?
#636 [07:08] <Sardonicus> yeah I put there my bank info
#637 [07:08] <Sardonicus> and then it says
#638 [07:08] <Sardonicus> "Unfortunately we are unable to process this transaction. You may cancel your payment or choose another payment method. "
#639 [07:09] <Sardonicus> so moneybookers are incapable of transfering money via direct debit
#640 [07:09] <|Kiikun|Janus|> im going to asume you doublechecked you typed it all right...
#641 [07:09] <|Kiikun|Janus|> or maybe they just dont like your bank? :P
#642 [07:10] <Sardonicus> of course I didn't try it out the first time
#643 [07:10] <Sardonicus> maybe it's because I live in Germany
#644 [07:10] <Sardonicus> and they're limited to the US?
#645 [07:10] <Sardonicus> so Europeans can't buy Minecraft and play pirate versions :D
#646 [07:10] <|Kiikun|Janus|> no. mojang is in sweeden, so i asume moneybrookers is in europe somewhere
#647 [07:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Sardonicus: please stop kidding about the piracy
#648 [07:11] <Sardonicus> aaaarrrrrr
#649 [07:11] <Sardonicus> aye aye
#650 [07:11] <Sardonicus> :)
#651 [07:11] <|Kiikun|Janus|> plus the pirate copies are usually infected with viruses or break your system for when you want to go legit
#652 [07:18] * |Kiikun|Janus| blinks
#652 [07:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ok.. aparently the server doesnt use udp.. because i was never forwarding it..
#653 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't
#654 [07:20] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ah :P
#655 [07:20] <|Kiikun|Janus|> o.o;
#656 [07:20] <|Kiikun|Janus|> um.. oops
#657 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> Stop breaking yourself
#658 [07:21] * |Kiikun|Janus| whistles after having siced peer on desktop
#658 [07:21] <JohnEBH> When was RIP Steve Jobs added to the topic >:
#659 [07:21] <|Kiikun|Janus|> sorry.. messing with router.
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#661 [07:22] <GreyVulpine> About 8pm eastern yesterday
#662 [07:23] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ok there. done organizing my portforward settings
#663 [07:23] <WolfyCole910> Isn't that the apple guy ?
#664 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#665 [07:23] <JohnEBH> Yar...
#666 [07:23] * |Kiikun|Janus| wishes ddwrt had the option to delete specific forwards instead of only the lowest :/
#666 [07:23] <WolfyCole910> Im guessing im a bit behind in the news >.<
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#668 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> Happened yesterday
#669 [07:24] <|Kiikun|Janus|> night! no more peerage!
#670 [07:24] <JohnEBH> Nah I only found out this morning =P
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#676 [07:37] <mib_yolm2j> hello
#677 [07:38] <mib_yolm2j> my minecraft sever has a big !in the front of it so i cant place mods or maps in there
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#691 [08:57] <BalthCat> If you use a bed, then pick it up and move it, do you respawn where the new place is, or do you have to use it again? I'm wondering because I used a bed in SMP, and it SEEMS to be still there. Hwoever when I died I saw a flash of a dungeon (mossy cobble) and spawned at main-spawn
#692 [08:58] <WolfyCole910> BalthCat I believe you have to use the bed again to reset the spawn
#693 [08:59] <BalthCat> That seems sensible to me.
#694 [08:59] <BalthCat> And yet I'm quite sure I did not use a bed inside a small cage of mossy cobble -_-
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#701 [09:12] <mib_pkkj1s> help it says my video card drives are bad what do i do?
#702 [09:17] <BalthCat> Clever boy. Logging off was my first suggestion.
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#709 [09:44] <TheNoodle> Let's see if I disconnect and lose voice while I sleep.
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#717 [10:14] <mib_1io27y> hi, how can i prove that my gift code has been cancelled?
#718 [10:16] <mib_1io27y> the person ive bought it from demands proof and i can't see how i can prove it
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#720 [10:24] <Appear> Hi. Anyone found out how to make potions in minecraft yet?
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#724 [10:25] <Kramer> Relating to earlier.
#725 [10:25] <Kramer> !paid KramerC
#726 [10:25] <Kramer> Try that.
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#728 [10:29] <napoleon> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: Inventory Crashes the game . Plus crashe at save chunk?
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#731 [10:30] <napoleon> Inventory Bug
#732 [10:34] <napoleon> Inventory Bug
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#735 [10:37] <blade0911> I have just purchased minecraft, payment went through, tried to download on windows and it keeps saying there is a virus attached to download and my computer wont allow me to download
#736 [10:38] <napoleon> yeah bacuase you running a keylogger
#737 [10:38] <blade0911> what's that
#738 [10:39] <napoleon> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: Inventory Crashes the game . Plus crashe at save chunk?
#739 [10:39] <napoleon> Inventory Bug
#740 [10:39] <napoleon> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: Inventory Crashes the game . Plus crashe at save chunk?
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#742 [10:39] <blade0911> how do i download then?
#743 [10:39] <RobinJ24> uh
#744 [10:40] <RobinJ24> deactivate your anti virus program
#745 [10:40] <blade0911> does anyone know if there is a virus attached to this download?
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#747 [10:40] <blade0911> i don't want to mess up my computer
#748 [10:40] <morton> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: is a pile of shit
#749 [10:40] <morton> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: is a pile of shit
#750 [10:40] <morton> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: is a pile of shit
#751 [10:40] <morton> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: is a pile of shit
#752 [10:40] <morton> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: is a pile of shit
#753 [10:41] <RobinJ24> blade0911 do you really think all of us would be here if there was a virus in it?
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#756 [10:41] <blade0911> i'm trying to download 1.81
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#758 [10:41] <RobinJ24> if youre downloading it form minecraft.net just deactivate your anti virus program or add an exception for it somehow
#759 [10:42] <RobinJ24> I dunno anything about anti virus program settings..
#760 [10:42] <Guest50866> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: =jeb is a wanker
#761 [10:42] <RobinJ24> Guest25335 We don't care about your opinion
#762 [10:42] <RobinJ24> and if you really have to express wed all appreciate it if you did it in a more mature way..
#763 [10:43] <blade0911> cool will try
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#765 [10:43] <mib_qpqqhw> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: = fancy a bum
#766 [10:43] <mib_qpqqhw> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: = fancy a bum
#767 [10:43] <mib_qpqqhw> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: = fancy a bum
#768 [10:44] <BalthCat> I might fancy one if it was a nice one.
#769 [10:44] <mib_qpqqhw> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: = fancy a bum
#770 [10:44] <mib_qpqqhw> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: = fancy a bum
#771 [10:44] <mib_qpqqhw> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: = fancy a bum
#772 [10:44] <mib_qpqqhw> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: = fancy a bum
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#774 [10:44] <mib_qpqqhw> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: = fancy a bum
#775 [10:44] <mib_qpqqhw> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: = fancy a bum
#776 [10:44] <mib_qpqqhw> Minecraft Beta 1.9 Prerelease 3: = fancy a bum
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#784 [10:52] <Jourdy288> Help!
#785 [10:52] <Jourdy288> I have a Visa gift card.
#786 [10:52] <Jourdy288> I want to buy Minecraft.
#787 [10:52] <Jourdy288> I cannot.
#788 [10:53] <Jourdy288> The transaction gets blocked for being based in London.
#789 [10:53] <RobinJ24> Use paypal
#790 [10:53] <Jourdy288> I can't
#791 [10:53] <Jourdy288> You can't use Paypal with a gift card.
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#793 [10:53] <RobinJ24> Well then I don't think theres much you can do..
#794 [10:53] <Jourdy288> So... I'm completely screwed?
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#796 [10:54] <Jourdy288> I saved up for that card, man.
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#798 [10:54] <RobinJ24> well I'm not an expert on Minecraft payment stuff
#799 [10:54] <Jourdy288> Ah.
#800 [10:54] <RobinJ24> Calinou might know
#801 [10:54] <Jourdy288> Is there anybody around here who might?
#802 [10:54] <Jourdy288> Calinou, could you halp?
#803 [10:54] <Jourdy288> BTW, thanks Rob.
#804 [10:54] <Calinou> ...yeah?
#805 [10:54] <Jourdy288> Any idea how to pay for Minecraft with a Visa gift card?
#806 [10:55] <Jourdy288> I can't put the funds into Paypal,
#807 [10:55] <Jourdy288> and the transaction gets rejected for being from London.
#808 [10:55] <Calinou> hm... I didn't used a prepaid visa card
#809 [10:55] <BalthCat> I have no idea why sites differentiate between the types sometimes.
#810 [10:55] <Calinou> try to send a email at payement@mojang.com - explain them
#811 [10:55] <Jourdy288> I'll try that.
#812 [10:55] <BalthCat> If you aren't signing on to a recurring thing, what's the difference?
#813 [10:55] <Jourdy288> Thanks man.
#814 [10:55] <BalthCat> Good luck.
#815 [10:56] <Jourdy288> Gracias!
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#819 [11:09] <ronjn___> is there any tool which pre-generates the chunks of the world?
#820 [11:09] <ronjn___> for windows
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#822 [11:10] <tjtom> hi can you tell me how to get a minecraft.jar
#823 [11:11] <ronjn___> http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/257-19-pre-release-3-is-ready-to-test/
#824 [11:11] <ronjn___> there
#825 [11:11] <tjtom> thanx
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#838 [11:15] <zelda> cris
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#848 [11:28] <maaaaaaaaaaats> minecraft is laging ... what can be the problem for that ?
#849 [11:29] <maaaaaaaaaaats> heyhey ?
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#851 [11:30] <madalynn> hello
#852 [11:30] <maaaaaaaaaaats> why is minecraft lagging so much ? :)
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#854 [11:31] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#855 [11:31] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#856 [11:31] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#857 [11:31] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#858 [11:31] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#859 [11:31] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#860 [11:31] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#861 [11:31] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
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#863 [11:31] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#864 [11:32] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#865 [11:32] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#866 [11:32] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#867 [11:32] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#868 [11:32] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#869 [11:32] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#870 [11:32] <maaaaaaaaaaats> it did work perfektly yesterday but today it lags extremly much
#871 [11:32] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#872 [11:32] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#873 [11:32] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#874 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: care dealing with skippydippy?
#875 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> maaaaaaaaaaats: Sorry about skippydippy
#876 [11:32] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#877 [11:32] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#878 [11:33] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#879 [11:33] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#880 [11:33] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#881 [11:33] * severance pokes Kealper
#881 [11:33] * severance pokes GreyVulpine
#881 [11:33] * severance pokes Wug
#881 [11:33] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#882 [11:33] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#883 [11:33] * severance pokes [L]
#883 [11:33] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#884 [11:33] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#885 [11:33] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#886 [11:33] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#887 [11:33] <[L]> Sigh
#888 [11:33] <maaaaaaaaaaats> fancy a bum
#889 [11:33] <maaaaaaaaaaats> fancy a bum
#890 [11:33] <maaaaaaaaaaats> fancy a bum
#891 [11:33] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#892 [11:33] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#893 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> maaaaaaaaaaats: Can you change your nick to something shorter? type /nick mats
#894 [11:33] <skippydippy> fancy a bum
#895 [11:33] <skippydippy> LOL
#896 [11:33] * VoxelHead kicked skippydippy from #minecrafthelp (Reason: kippydippy :Banned)
#897 [11:34] <[L]> Whos next?
#898 [11:34] <severance> thanks [L]
#899 [11:34] * tyteen4a03 shrugs
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#900 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: hi again
#901 [11:35] <tinsel> hay
#902 [11:35] <severance> tinsel: hi mats
#903 [11:35] <tinsel> :D
#904 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: did you install any mods/texturepacks?
#905 [11:36] <tinsel> my mindcraft i lagging ... all the settings are on the lowest and it ceeps lagging , it lags so much that i cant move
#906 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: did you install any mods/texturepacks?
#907 [11:36] <tinsel> no :)
#908 [11:37] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: what other applications did you open while playing Minecraft?
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#910 [11:37] <tinsel> nothing, i just have running minecraft
#911 [11:38] <tyteen4a03> it was working fine yesterday, right?
#912 [11:38] <tinsel> yeah!
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#914 [11:39] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: Can you briefly list what you have done from yesterday to today?
#915 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> like, did you download anything
#916 [11:40] <tinsel> hmmm, facebook,youtube...
#917 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: Let's firstly try a reinstall of minecraft then
#918 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> ??> tinsel win/reinst/bat
#919 [11:40] <VoxelHead> tinsel: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#920 [11:40] <VoxelHead> tinsel: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#921 [11:41] <tinsel> no i didnt download anything
#922 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> alright
#923 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> follow VoxelHead's instructions
#924 [11:41] <Jess> hello, after attempting to reinstall my minecraft by deleting the .jar about a week ago i cannot log on but instead get a error message readng Failed to launch Fatal error occured (4):Permisson denied: connect. i am pretty sure tis is to do with me not being able to connect to minecraft.net as i never get the patch page when running minecraft.exe before logging in but shows the code for the formatting...i have wiped/ reinstalled min
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#926 [11:41] <tinsel> OK but do my worlds get deledet?
#927 [11:41] <tinsel> :)
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#929 [11:43] <Jess> ...any ideas?
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#931 [11:44] <Jess> hello, after attempting to reinstall my minecraft by deleting the .jar about a week ago i cannot log on but instead get a error message readng Failed to launch Fatal error occured (4):Permisson denied: connect. i am pretty sure tis is to do with me not being able to connect to minecraft.net as i never get the patch page when running minecraft.exe before logging in but shows the code for the formatting...i have wiped/ reinstalled min
#932 [11:44] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: no
#933 [11:44] <tyteen4a03> Jess: can you access minecraft.net from browser?
#934 [11:44] <Jess> yes
#935 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> Jess: Please try to reinstall Java
#936 [11:45] <Jess> i have already a couple of times, i will try again if you want i was wondering if it could be my firewall?
#937 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> Jess: Yes, that could be it
#938 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> try to disable it
#939 [11:45] <Jess> ok ill try that
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#941 [11:47] <tinsel> it didnt help to reinstall minecraft .... can it be that java is the problem ?
#942 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: It depends on what other applications you have running.
#943 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> You could try reinstalling java, or there might be a programming running background that eats your resources
#944 [11:48] <tinsel> it just minecraft
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#946 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> Does using Google Chrome etc lag for you?
#947 [11:49] <Jess> fire wall didnt work and reinstalling java didnt work either all i kmnow is for some reason i cannot connect to minecraft .net.. is there anyway i could get a more detailed message?
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#949 [11:49] <tinsel> yeah it lags when i play at google chrome and the minecraft download
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#951 [11:49] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: no, visiting other sites
#952 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> ??< error/cantconnect
#953 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> Jess: has it worked before?
#954 [11:50] <tinsel> no it dosnt
#955 [11:50] <Jess> yeah it was weird all of a sudden it just refused to connect
#956 [11:51] <tyteen4a03> Jess: maybe you should try at a later date then
#957 [11:51] <RobinJ24> jess are you using a pirate copy?
#958 [11:51] <tyteen4a03> RobinJ24: I believe not, but
#959 [11:51] <Jess> i meant like </connect/>.....bla bla bla... if i could decompile it and use it in notepad++ it migt TELL me what te problem is
#960 [11:51] <tyteen4a03> Jess: To validate, username please?
#961 [11:52] <Jess> no ive had my account since survival test
#962 [11:52] <Jess> Jessyble
#963 [11:52] <RobinJ24> !paid Jessyble
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#965 [11:53] <Jess> so i dunno wat to do
#966 [11:53] <tyteen4a03> Jess: Can you try running Minecraft.exe as Admin?
#967 [11:53] <Jess> i will now
#968 [11:54] <tinsel> java and minecraft stops running all the time :/
#969 [11:55] <Jess> :/
#970 [11:55] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: I would suspect something's running background that is draining all your CPU and RAM
#971 [11:55] <Jess> have you tried setting priority to high tinsel?
#972 [11:55] <Jess> or realtime?
#973 [11:56] <tinsel> where can i see that ?
#974 [11:56] <Jess> go to task manager
#975 [11:56] <tinsel> jes
#976 [11:56] <tyteen4a03> Ctrl+Alt+Del would do
#977 [11:56] <tinsel> im there now
#978 [11:56] <Jess> right click minecraft.. go to process
#979 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> Jess: not so fast
#980 [11:57] <tinsel> the preoriti is on normal on minecraft
#981 [11:57] <Jess> rigt click the ighlighted process and set priority high.. this may make the rest of your comp lag until you reset priority
#982 [11:57] <Jess> set it to hig
#983 [11:57] <Jess> h
#984 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: Can you tell me which process is eating the most RAM in the process list?
#985 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> Jess: not so fast
#986 [11:58] <Jess> tyteen4a03: ??
#987 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> Jess: I want to know what is causing his performance to drop
#988 [11:59] <tinsel> yeah, is java with 447000kb
#989 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> the second is?
#990 [11:59] <Jess> i havent spokenb fr about 10 mins
#991 [11:59] <tinsel> and the next one is explorer with 45000 kb
#992 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> ok, can you try Ending the java.exe process and see if Minecraft closes?
#993 [12:00] <Jess> how do yu pm o.O
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#995 [12:00] <tinsel> yes it did close
#996 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: hmm... sec
#997 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#998 [12:01] <tinsel> ?
#999 [12:01] <Jess> >.> im slow thanks
#1000 [12:02] <Jess> what should i do?
#1001 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: Can you try following this after you restart your computer? http://www.buxville.net/archive/index.php/t-6239.html
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#1003 [12:03] <tinsel> when im running minecraft now im get into the world but the screen is just black ....
#1004 [12:03] <tinsel> ok
#1005 [12:04] <Jess> are your graphics settings fancy or fast?
#1006 [12:04] <tinsel> fast
#1007 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: wait
#1008 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: Can you tell me your situation again?
#1009 [12:06] <tinsel> when im loding my world it takes a wile and when im in my world the hole screen is black and minecrafte bugs
#1010 [12:06] <Jess> anyway to elp me out? i doubt my dad would get me another copy and it was a beta account....
#1011 [12:06] <Jess> is tat for all saves?
#1012 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> Jess: you can download Minecraft anywhere
#1013 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> tinsel: hmm... Can you try creating another world and see if it does the same thing?
#1014 [12:07] <Jess> .im not thick >.> i dont want to pirate
#1015 [12:07] <tinsel> ok 2 sec
#1016 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> Jess: You can download Minecraft to anywhere, once you bought Minecraft it's yours
#1017 [12:08] <Sardonicus> well if you are able to buy it...
#1018 [12:08] <Jess> i.know. but i cannot go on it on my computer.. so thats pointless if i cant use it
#1019 [12:08] <tinsel> the new world does work fine!!!!!
#1020 [12:08] <tinsel> FTW =)
#1021 [12:08] <Jess> its a save corruption
#1022 [12:09] <Jess> you cant get it back but you can use oters :)
#1023 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> ??> tinsel mcedit
#1024 [12:09] <VoxelHead> tinsel: (mcedit) http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#1025 [12:09] <Jess> or that ;)
#1026 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> load the world with MCEdit, save it
#1027 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> it will fix your world
#1028 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> Jess: Your problem is that the system is not allowing java to use sockets
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#1030 [12:10] <Jess> i didnt know that lo
#1031 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> so it's gonna be java config problem or some dumb AV decided to block java
#1032 [12:10] <Jess> could you do me a favor tyteen?
#1033 [12:10] <tinsel> ok! i hope it will work!! :)
#1034 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> yes?
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#1036 [12:11] <Jess> can you try logging in on your comp with my account.. ill chang the pass after?
#1037 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> and why would you do so?
#1038 [12:12] <Jess> because i am the most security consious person youll ever meet?
#1039 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> no, why would you even give me your account info and let me test it
#1040 [12:13] <Jess> i want to know if it will work on another computer
#1041 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> it will work on all computers
#1042 [12:13] <RobinJ24> its nothing wrong with your account Jess
#1043 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> ^that
#1044 [12:13] <Jess> yes..no?
#1045 [12:14] <RobinJ24> what?
#1046 [12:15] <Jess> helooo?
#1047 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> Jess: It will work across all computers, no need to test
#1048 [12:15] <Jess> HELLO?
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#1052 [12:17] <Jess> hello??
#1053 [12:17] <tyteen4a03> hi
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#1055 [12:18] <Jess> soo will you test it?
#1056 [12:18] <RobinJ24> lol RobinJ..
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#1058 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> no
#1059 [12:18] <rumpler> Hello?
#1060 [12:18] <Jess> why?
#1061 [12:19] <RobinJ24> Jess there is nothing wrong wit your account
#1062 [12:19] <RobinJ24> still
#1063 [12:19] <rumpler> NEED HELP! when I play minecraft it says 'not downloaded' I have tried to delete it but it wont work
#1064 [12:20] <Jess> ok fine, but i need ideas on what to do ??
#1065 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> ??> rumpler win/dxdiag/bat
#1066 [12:20] <VoxelHead> rumpler: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1067 [12:20] <VoxelHead> rumpler: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15421087/%23Minecrafthelp/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1068 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> Jess: Sorry, but I haven't got a clue about the problem
#1069 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> but I have told you about the cause
#1070 [12:20] <Jess> ..ok thanks anyway :/ byee
#1071 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> Jess: you can hang around until another helper arrives tho
#1072 [12:21] <Jess> ok i might do that
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#1076 [12:23] <Jess> anyone know about fatal error 4?
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#1078 [12:26] <Jess> any Helpers here?
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#1080 [12:27] <tinsel> i saved the world in mcedit and i tried to run it in minecraft but is still will not work
#1081 [12:27] <Jess> any helpers.................?
#1082 [12:28] <Jess> you should backup your saves
#1083 [12:28] <tinsel> ok i did that
#1084 [12:29] <Jess> did it open on mcedit fine?
#1085 [12:29] <tinsel> yes!
#1086 [12:30] <Jess> was minecraft closed?
#1087 [12:30] <tinsel> yes it was
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#1089 [12:31] <Jess> ... that should work... you sure you saved it in the saves foldeR?
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#1091 [12:31] <tinsel> now : p hahah maybe i trie that :D
#1092 [12:32] <Jess> ...lol :L
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#1094 [12:34] <Jess> you know about fatal error 4
#1095 [12:34] <Jess> ?
#1096 [12:35] <Jess> gerze?l
#1097 [12:36] <ryladine> Ahh fatal error four...
#1098 [12:37] <ryladine> Jess: Did you ever edit hosts file, or run a pirated copy of minecraft?
#1099 [12:37] <Jess> no
#1100 [12:37] <Jess> Jessyble has paid
#1101 [12:37] <ryladine> lol
#1102 [12:38] <ryladine> Jess: Where is the error occuring?
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#1104 [12:38] <Jess> this is a really weird error noone as been able to solve it for me.. ive tried reinstalling java and minecraft exe.. oh and
#1105 [12:39] <Jess> connecting to inecraft.net
#1106 [12:39] <Jess> my minecraft just cant.. i can on my browser
#1107 [12:39] <ryladine> Hmm
#1108 [12:39] <Jess> but my .exe cant even for te patch page
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#1110 [12:39] <ryladine> Jess, the issue may be your AV/Firewall
#1111 [12:40] <ryladine> Jess: Can you try disabling them? Also, which do you run?
#1112 [12:40] <Jess> tried firewall reinstallin java .exe multiple times
#1113 [12:40] <ryladine> Jess: Do you run anything with live protection? Like AVG/Norton/Mcafee?
#1114 [12:40] <Jess> well my antivirus was a trial and ran out a long time ago
#1115 [12:40] <Jess> so not atm
#1116 [12:40] <ryladine> So you don't have any installed at all?
#1117 [12:41] <ryladine> ??< hosts
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#1119 [12:41] <dr_bibble> siemka
#1120 [12:41] <ryladine> ??< win/hosts
#1121 [12:41] <Jess> ill check my appdata but it worked before when it was installed or not
#1122 [12:41] <dr_bibble> mam do was pytanie
#1123 [12:41] <dr_bibble> jest tu ktoś poland??
#1124 [12:41] <Jess> englis
#1125 [12:41] <RobinJ24> No dr_bibble...
#1126 [12:41] <Jess> h
#1127 [12:42] <ryladine> Jess, try following these dirrections, it's a bit out there, but I know your exact error is linked to this problem at times.
#1128 [12:42] <ryladine> ??> Jess win/hosts
#1129 [12:42] <VoxelHead> Jess: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1130 [12:42] <VoxelHead> Jess: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1131 [12:42] <dr_bibble> I have a problem with Siemek minicraft help me?
#1132 [12:43] <ryladine> Siemek minecraft?
#1133 [12:43] <dr_bibble> ktos tutaj polak jest??
#1134 [12:43] <Jess> windows key?
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#1136 [12:43] <ryladine> dr_bibble: english only please.
#1137 [12:43] <Jess> i can speak polish...
#1138 [12:44] <ryladine> Yes, but most of the helpers can not.
#1139 [12:44] <Jess> i can help its just this error im usually not a noob :L
#1140 [12:44] <Jess> Yo hablo de uñas
#1141 [12:44] <dr_bibble> I have a problem with minicraft you help?
#1142 [12:45] <ryladine> Yes
#1143 [12:45] <Jess> what dpo you mean by windows ley
#1144 [12:45] <ryladine> Oh!
#1145 [12:45] <Jess> depende del problema
#1146 [12:45] <ryladine> He means the flag key, or the one between control and alt.
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#1148 [12:45] <Jess> function key?
#1149 [12:45] <ryladine> Jess English please.
#1150 [12:45] <ryladine> Hmm
#1151 [12:45] <Jess> fine ..
#1152 [12:46] <ryladine> Jess Do you know what key to press to open your start menu?
#1153 [12:46] <dr_bibble> when I turn minicraft and August logs the user writes notes to me what is the premium?
#1154 [12:46] <Jess> ill follow your instructions now
#1155 [12:46] <ryladine> dr_bibble: what is your minecraft username?
#1156 [12:46] <Jess> ...i can speak polish if i pm him?
#1157 [12:46] <Jess> ....of coursse
#1158 [12:46] <ryladine> ?? dont/pm
#1159 [12:46] <VoxelHead> dont/pm: We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1160 [12:46] <dr_bibble> YenLee44
#1161 [12:47] <Jess> ok :)
#1162 [12:47] <ryladine> !paid YenLee44
#1163 [12:47] <Jess> ..
#1164 [12:47] <ryladine> Your account is not premium. Have you bought it?
#1165 [12:48] <dr_bibble> and give free minicraft August?
#1166 [12:48] <Jess> what you mean by windows key
#1167 [12:48] <Jess> start key?
#1168 [12:48] <ryladine> JEss YEs
#1169 [12:48] <ryladine> dr_bibble: Can you explain that a little bit better please?
#1170 [12:49] <dr_bibble> minicraft 1.8.1 in August can play for free?
#1171 [12:49] <mariettagecko> ummm.
#1172 [12:49] <mariettagecko> It's October now.
#1173 [12:49] <ryladine> No, 1.8 is never free to play.
#1174 [12:49] <severance> what's "minicraft"
#1175 [12:49] <severance> ?
#1176 [12:49] <mariettagecko> So that's pretty much irrelevant.
#1177 [12:49] <Jess> hes polish its minectraft
#1178 [12:50] <Jess> can you give me the whole adress?
#1179 [12:50] <mariettagecko> hmmm.
#1180 [12:50] <ryladine> Jess: %SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc
#1181 [12:50] <ryladine> That will take you where you need to go.
#1182 [12:50] <dr_bibble> than I have to pay for minicraft 1.8.1?
#1183 [12:50] <mariettagecko> Wasn't there supposed to be a minecraft app for the android market coming out?
#1184 [12:50] <ryladine> Yes...
#1185 [12:51] <ryladine> Yes
#1186 [12:51] <dr_bibble> why the 1.7.3 will not have to?
#1187 [12:51] <mariettagecko> I can't seem to find it... Do you have to go to a different site to download it, rather than the main android market?
#1188 [12:51] <ryladine> I don't think it's out yet
#1189 [12:51] <Coll> maybe it isnt out yet
#1190 [12:52] <Coll> also I think you need a certain kind of droid
#1191 [12:52] <RobinJ24> dr_bibble You need to pay for minecraft to play it...
#1192 [12:52] <Jess> # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp.
#1193 [12:52] <ryladine> Where are you reading that jess?
#1194 [12:52] <Jess> its in hosts file
#1195 [12:53] <ryladine> Ah, you can ignore it. Your not redistributeing it or anything, just passing it to me to look for errors
#1196 [12:53] <Jess> oh i know XD i forgot it wouldnt paste past the # thats the first line lol
#1197 [12:54] <ryladine> Jess
#1198 [12:54] <ryladine> Not here
#1199 [12:54] <ryladine> ??> jess pastebin
#1200 [12:54] <Jess> yep :)
#1201 [12:54] <VoxelHead> jess: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1202 [12:54] <Jess> ah .. yes that is helpfull... you may have noticed i spend alot of time on irc
#1203 [12:55] <ryladine> lol
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#1205 [12:56] <UnadoptedFern> I have two questions. The first is about a glitch I am having with minecraft.
#1206 [12:56] <ryladine> Ask them, and someone will help you when they can
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#1208 [12:57] <UnadoptedFern> Ok, and ask who? The people in here/
#1209 [12:57] <Ryladine> Here
#1210 [12:57] <UnadoptedFern> *?
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#1214 [12:57] <dr_bibble> hello\?
#1215 [12:57] <Ryladine> Back again bibble?
#1216 [12:58] <RobinJ24> UnadoptedFern Yes this is minecrafthelp
#1217 [12:58] <dr_bibble> I think so..
#1218 [12:58] <dr_bibble> But i have a question here
#1219 [12:58] <Ryladine> Wait... mibbit, your not the polish bibble huh?
#1220 [12:58] <UnadoptedFern> ok. Well, when I play online my page just starts acting up. The page looks very strange and my cross hair turns into hearts and armor.
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#1222 [12:58] <Jess> my good im a noob...
#1223 [12:58] <Ryladine> lol?
#1224 [12:58] <dr_bibble> I just downloaded minecraft but when i log in the field disappeares..
#1225 [12:59] <Jess> i cant even use it >.>
#1226 [12:59] <dr_bibble> and no, i'm apperently not the 'real' bibble
#1227 [12:59] <Ryladine> pastebin?
#1228 [12:59] <RobinJ24> UnadoptedFern youre playing in browser?
#1229 [12:59] <dr_bibble> no.
#1230 [12:59] <dr_bibble> in the other 1 ^^\
#1231 [12:59] <Ryladine> There is no real bibble, just the name mibbit sticks on people
#1232 [12:59] <UnadoptedFern> Yes, I'm not using my computer to play, or else I'd download it.
#1233 [13:00] <Ryladine> Jess, are you having problems using pastebin?
#1234 [13:00] <RobinJ24> Well if it's in browser I don't think theres anything to do other than update Java
#1235 [13:00] <Jess> ......maybe....................
#1236 [13:00] <dr_bibble> and who knows what happens @ me?
#1237 [13:00] <UnadoptedFern> When I can I'll take a screen shot.
#1238 [13:00] <dr_bibble> Why does it disappeares after logging on?
#1239 [13:00] <Jess> im gonna blame it on the fact im tired
#1240 [13:00] <UnadoptedFern> I'll take a look into updating java.
#1241 [13:00] <Ryladine> Why does what disapear?
#1242 [13:00] <dr_bibble> i already got java version 6 update 27
#1243 [13:00] <Ryladine> JEss, once you paste it in, just press submit, on the bottom of the page
#1244 [13:00] <dr_bibble> idk why it disappeares, thats my question.
#1245 [13:01] <dr_bibble> after i log in minecraft disapperes
#1246 [13:01] <Ryladine> Ah minecraft...
#1247 [13:01] <dr_bibble> like i clicked it away
#1248 [13:01] <UnadoptedFern> My second question is how do you upload the pre-release to your game?
#1249 [13:01] <Jess> ok
#1250 [13:02] <UnadoptedFern> Or the "jar" as it is called.
#1251 [13:02] <Ryladine> dr_bibble: Are any files being generated near your .exe, something named like hs_err_pid
#1252 [13:02] <mr_fribble> Ok so i'm on a mac and i was downloading modloader pretty sure i did everything according to the guide but now minecraft just blackscreens for me when i try to log in... any clues to why and how i solve it?
#1253 [13:02] <Ryladine> ?? mods
#1254 [13:02] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#1255 [13:02] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1256 [13:02] <Ryladine> brb
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#1258 [13:03] <UnadoptedFern> I'm using the one that jeb released earlier this morning.
#1259 [13:03] <UnadoptedFern> Attempting to anyway.
#1260 [13:03] <Jess> ive done tat rydaline
#1261 [13:03] <Ryladine> UnadoptedFern: Theres no support for the pre-releases here.
#1262 [13:03] <Ryladine> Jess: Give me the url of the page it put you on
#1263 [13:03] <Jess> ohhh
#1264 [13:03] <UnadoptedFern> Really? Ok then. I'll look around then.
#1265 [13:04] <UnadoptedFern> Thanks for the help.
#1266 [13:04] <Ryladine> I suggest asking where you got the pre-release
#1267 [13:04] <Ryladine> fern: Your first issue sounded like a texture pack
#1268 [13:04] <Jess> http://pastebin.com/aShqES22
#1269 [13:05] <Ryladine> Is that the entire file?
#1270 [13:05] <UnadoptedFern> Really? Then do you suggest I go to the default instead of using a different skin? I think it is the entire file. You mean the jar? One of the creators released the link this morning.
#1271 [13:06] <Jess> yeah
#1272 [13:06] <Ryladine> fern: I meant that for your first issue, about the cursor changing
#1273 [13:07] <Jess> it is te whole file
#1274 [13:07] <Ryladine> Hmm
#1275 [13:07] <Ryladine> I'm going to run down a list of common issues then.
#1276 [13:07] <Ryladine> What version of java are you on
#1277 [13:07] <Ryladine> ?
#1278 [13:08] <UnadoptedFern> ok. I'm not entirely sure. I just changed the character skin. I'm going to take a look into using default to see if that works any better.
#1279 [13:08] <Jess> latest i get told wen but i dont remember version no.
#1280 [13:08] <Ryladine> ??> jess java/versio
#1281 [13:08] <Ryladine> ??> jess java/version
#1282 [13:08] <VoxelHead> jess: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1283 [13:08] <VoxelHead> jess: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1284 [13:08] <Ryladine> Please check.
#1285 [13:08] <Jess> ok
#1286 [13:09] <Jess> v6 u twenty7 (broke my two key)
#1287 [13:09] <Ryladine> lol
#1288 [13:09] <Ryladine> Jess do you have a ! in your windows username?
#1289 [13:09] <Jess> no
#1290 [13:10] <Ryladine> Jess do you have any unusual characters in your minecraft username?
#1291 [13:10] <UnadoptedFern> I'm updating java. I'll tell you how it goes in a few minutes.
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#1293 [13:10] <Jess> Jessyble <- minecraft Minecraft <-windows
#1294 [13:10] <Ryladine> Jess when is the last time you updated your video drivers?
#1295 [13:10] <Jess> its a laptp
#1296 [13:11] <Ryladine> Hm
#1297 [13:11] <Ryladine> Jess please follow voxelheads next directions.
#1298 [13:11] <Jess> ok
#1299 [13:11] <Ryladine> ??> jess win/dxdiag
#1300 [13:11] <VoxelHead> jess: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1301 [13:11] <VoxelHead> jess: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#1303 [13:12] <Ryladine> While you do that I'll brb
#1304 [13:12] <peeves> oh, oops! It's Fern again. I'm going to check out the game and see if the lag is also fixed.
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#1306 [13:14] <Jess> done :
#1307 [13:14] <Jess> http://pastebin.com/UZCaFUqv
#1308 [13:16] <Ryladine> JEss have you ever updated your graphics on this machine?
#1309 [13:16] <Jess> i dunno if i can
#1310 [13:16] <Ryladine> You can.
#1311 [13:16] <Jess> how>
#1312 [13:16] <Ryladine> Give me a moment to get your drivers for you.
#1313 [13:16] <Jess> ?
#1314 [13:17] <Ryladine> Just follow the link to the drivers I provide in a bit
#1315 [13:17] <Jess> ok :)
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#1317 [13:20] <Jess> :)
#1318 [13:20] <Ryladine> Jess: Download and install these drivers, they may fix your problem.
#1319 [13:21] <Ryladine> JEss: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20190&ProdId=2991&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%2C%2064-bit*&DownloadType=Drivers]
#1320 [13:22] <Jess> is this working im gonna log out and in
#1321 [13:22] <Ryladine> yes
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#1323 [13:23] <Ryladine> hello
#1324 [13:23] <Ryladine> brb again
#1325 [13:24] <Jess> hi? link?
#1326 [13:24] <|Kiikun|> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20190
#1327 [13:25] <Jess> im running windows 7
#1328 [13:25] <Jess> ?? does that matter
#1329 [13:26] <|Kiikun|> yes. thats the driver for 7 or Vista x64
#1330 [13:26] <Jess> ok :)
#1331 [13:26] <Ryladine> Hm
#1332 [13:26] <Ryladine> Was the one I sent wrong kii?
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#1335 [13:28] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: nope. right driver. i just removed the extra crap from the link :P
#1336 [13:28] <peeves> Here's an image of what my error seems to do. [IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/nwymig.jpg[/IMG] I updated java script.
#1337 [13:28] <Ryladine> lol
#1338 [13:28] <peeves> oops hang on
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#1340 [13:29] <peeves> http://tinypic.com/r/nwymig/7
#1341 [13:29] <GuyFawkes> i'm running 10.6.8 and it won't let me log in
#1342 [13:29] <peeves> there we go.
#1343 [13:29] <Ryladine> Kii: I'
#1344 [13:29] <GuyFawkes> is this fixed in 10.9?
#1345 [13:29] <kendle> laucher doesnt open
#1346 [13:29] <|Kiikun|> peeves: thats indeed a tiny pic.
#1347 [13:29] <peeves> sorry. I can attempt to make it larger.
#1348 [13:30] <Ryladine> Kii: I'll be truthful, I don't know for certain that that is his fix, I was just running through a list of possible problems I use when I'm not certain. He's getting fatal Error 4, his hosts file is un-modified, and he has no AV installed to speak of, and his firewall is disabled.
#1349 [13:30] <Sardonicus> Hi Ryladine!
#1350 [13:31] <Ryladine> Hello Sardonicus
#1351 [13:31] <Sardonicus> did you find the meaning of life finally?
#1352 [13:31] <Ryladine> lol
#1353 [13:31] <peeves> http://tinypic.com/r/nwymig/7
#1354 [13:31] <Ryladine> Yes, to obey and serve my cat overlords.
#1355 [13:31] <peeves> Try that. :)
#1356 [13:31] <mariettagecko> Sardonicus: 42
#1357 [13:31] <Sardonicus> for me it is to purchase Minecraft... now an easy task...
#1358 [13:31] <Sardonicus> :)
#1359 [13:31] <Jess> when i try to install the driver it says the driver being installed is not validated for this computer. Please obtain the appropriate driver from te computer manufacturer. Setup wil now exit
#1360 [13:32] <Sardonicus> *not
#1361 [13:32] <|Kiikun|> tinypic is still tiny :P try imgur
#1362 [13:32] <peeves> ok.
#1363 [13:32] <Sardonicus> 42 isn't even a prime number
#1364 [13:32] <Ryladine> Hmp
#1365 [13:32] <Sardonicus> btw
#1366 [13:32] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: *bap!* you missed it being a dell
#1367 [13:33] <Ryladine> lol I just went for the chipset, didn't realize dell would be a pain about it
#1368 [13:33] <|Kiikun|> dell's ALWAYS a pain :P
#1369 [13:33] <peeves> http://i.imgur.com/aQhuy.png that works better! :P
#1370 [13:33] <Ryladine> I use custom machines :)
#1371 [13:33] <peeves> orrrr.......
#1372 [13:33] <mariettagecko> No, but 42 is the answer to Life, The Universe, and Everything.
#1373 [13:33] <Jess> hello?
#1374 [13:33] <Ryladine> Alright jess, give me a bit.
#1375 [13:33] <peeves> http://imgur.com/aQhuy
#1376 [13:33] <Jess> .. sorry :L
#1377 [13:33] <peeves> there we go
#1378 [13:34] <Sardonicus> you read the wrong books, maiettagecko
#1379 [13:34] <Sardonicus> +r
#1380 [13:34] <|Kiikun|> Jess: he gave you the RIGHT drivers... but dell is a pain and dont like letting you use generic drivers
#1381 [13:34] <Sardonicus> or watch the wrong movies :)
#1382 [13:34] <Ryladine> I'll have to find "dell's" version, which is probably exactly the same with a single line saying "Dell" in it.
#1383 [13:34] <mariettagecko> Read the books.
#1384 [13:34] <mariettagecko> And ignore the Dell version.
#1385 [13:34] <Jess> lol
#1386 [13:34] <Ryladine> lol
#1387 [13:34] <|Kiikun|> peeves: you using a texture pack?
#1388 [13:34] <Sardonicus> heh
#1389 [13:34] * Ryladine goes back to the interwebs
#1389 [13:34] <mariettagecko> Just go remove the old driver from the laptop and get the good driver from the video card manufacturer.
#1390 [13:34] <peeves> I am using a creeper skin.
#1391 [13:34] <mariettagecko> Believe me, I've done it on my laptop,.
#1392 [13:35] <Ryladine> Ah that you fern?
#1393 [13:35] <peeves> yes it is! :)
#1394 [13:35] <peeves> I ended up getting confused and didn't type in the correct nick name.
#1395 [13:35] <peeves> lol
#1396 [13:35] * |Kiikun| cant see whats wrong besides the health and food and crosshair
#1396 [13:36] <|Kiikun|> peeves: type /nick fern
#1397 [13:36] <|Kiikun|> :4
#1398 [13:36] * Ryladine sighs
#1398 [13:36] <Ryladine> I recognize this page...
#1399 [13:37] <|Kiikun|> UnadoptedFern: if you dont hav a texture pack i think your files might be partly corrupted...
#1400 [13:38] <Ryladine> There...
#1401 [13:38] <|Kiikun|> ??> UnadoptedFern win/reinst
#1402 [13:38] <VoxelHead> UnadoptedFern: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1403 [13:38] <Ryladine> Jess: use this one then... http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&releaseid=R237653&SystemID=INSPIRON1545&servicetag=&os=W764&osl=en&deviceid=18283&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=1&catid=27&impid=-1&formatcnt=0&libid=27&typeid=-1&dateid=-1&formatid=-1&source=-1&fileid=342057
#1404 [13:38] <VoxelHead> UnadoptedFern: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1405 [13:38] <UnadoptedFern> is there a fix for that, or am i screwed? :s
#1406 [13:38] <Jess> thanks
#1407 [13:38] <Ryladine> Ooooo thats bi
#1408 [13:38] <Ryladine> big
#1409 [13:38] <Ryladine> Should have made a tinyurl for it lol
#1410 [13:38] <|Kiikun|> lol.. ry i usually just go and copy the download link and rip off the javascript
#1411 [13:38] <Ryladine> lol
#1412 [13:39] <Ryladine> I could do that, but I prefer to let them see exactly what it is, some of them think we may be hackers, I mean theres wug but most of us are good people...
#1413 [13:39] <Ryladine> :)
#1414 [13:39] <Sardonicus> and the pirates?
#1415 [13:40] <UnadoptedFern> how would I do that VoxelHead?
#1416 [13:40] <Ryladine> Hmmm Yes.. Them too.
#1417 [13:40] <Sardonicus> Hi my name is Blackbeard ;)
#1418 [13:40] <Acid20> hey guys. Did any1 got a message from mojang referring to my account problem?
#1419 [13:40] <Ryladine> Just follow voxelheads directions.
#1420 [13:40] <Sardonicus> and I pillage games
#1421 [13:40] <|Kiikun|> [13:38] <@VoxelHead> UnadoptedFern: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1422 [13:40] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1423 [13:40] <Ryladine> kii join us in the breakroom :)
#1424 [13:41] <Sardonicus> brb shower...
#1425 [13:41] <UnadoptedFern> oops didn't see that. Sorry Voxel!
#1426 [13:42] <Acid20> no reply from mojang >.<?
#1427 [13:43] <|Kiikun|> Acid20: o.o; depends on who talked to them... *has no idea*
#1428 [13:43] <Jess> done ^^
#1429 [13:44] <Ryladine> Restart your pc, and try minecraft again.
#1430 [13:44] <Ryladine> Jess
#1431 [13:44] <Jess> ok
#1432 [13:44] <Acid20> but u remember me >.<?
#1433 [13:44] <Ryladine> Nope.
#1434 [13:44] <|Kiikun|> i recognise the nick... thats about it
#1435 [13:44] <Ryladine> Lol it's a mibbit nick
#1436 [13:44] <|Kiikun|> it is? :/
#1437 [13:44] <|Kiikun|> damn fcskin specific mibbit nicks!
#1438 [13:45] <UnadoptedFern> That seems to have worked! Thanks! Off to biology now. Maybe I'll catch you later! :D
#1439 [13:45] <Ryladine> Acid20 is Mibbit@p57A769A5.dip.t-dialin.net * http://www.mibbit.com
#1440 [13:45] <Ryladine> :)
#1441 [13:45] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: just means hes using mibbit :P
#1442 [13:45] <Ryladine> Lol also means he probably doesn't know how to use IRC well enough to set a nick
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#1444 [13:46] <|Derp|> herp!
#1445 [13:46] <|Derp|> mibbit gives you the option to pick a name :P
#1446 [13:46] <Ryladine> lol
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#1448 [13:46] <UnadoptedFern> Thanks for the help Voxel and Ryladine!
#1449 [13:47] <Ryladine> Who do so many people join off it with the same name then? :)
#1450 [13:47] <haloman61> does some one what do you need for minecraft
#1451 [13:47] <|Kiikun|> i have a feeling that puttin in a username into mibbit STORES that username to be randomed to at some later time
#1452 [13:48] <Sardonicus> Haloman61?
#1453 [13:48] <Ryladine> I was thikning that to :)
#1454 [13:48] <Sardonicus> First you need a PC
#1455 [13:48] <|Kiikun|> ?? requirements
#1456 [13:48] <VoxelHead> requirements: Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#1457 [13:48] <Sardonicus> Hands
#1458 [13:48] <haloman61> yes
#1459 [13:48] <Sardonicus> Hands to use keyboard and mouse
#1460 [13:48] <Acid20> well my mibbit nick is also my acc nick
#1461 [13:48] <Ryladine> Pc, internet, money, RAM, cpu, video, monitor, mouse, keyboard
#1462 [13:49] <Acid20> we talked about the problem, that i cannot login cause it says: too many failed logins
#1463 [13:49] <Sardonicus> Also you need eyes
#1464 [13:49] <haloman61> some one ask my name
#1465 [13:49] <Sardonicus> to see what's going on at the screen
#1466 [13:49] <Ryladine> Acid20: You were being dealt with personally by a helper, please wait for them
#1467 [13:49] * Thrae dislikes that requirements KB
#1467 [13:49] <|Kiikun|> Acid20: ah i think i remember you now...
#1468 [13:50] <|Kiikun|> Thrae: you liek the /lessrude one? :P
#1469 [13:50] <Sardonicus> afk
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#1471 [13:50] <haloman61> kiikun you said my name
#1472 [13:50] <Jess> no use
#1473 [13:50] <Thrae> haloman61: Specifically a *dedicated* GPU is highly recommended, preferably ATI or Nvidia
#1474 [13:50] <Ryladine> Jess I did say it was a list of possible problems
#1475 [13:50] <Sardonicus> Thrae you said his name :D
#1476 [13:50] <|Kiikun|> haloman61: actually no i didnt except just now :P
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#1478 [13:50] <Jess> oh i know :)
#1479 [13:50] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: Most people don't know the difference between a dedicated GPU and an integrated one
#1480 [13:50] <Ryladine> Kii, do you know what fatal error 4 is specifically?
#1481 [13:50] <haloman61> ok :/
#1482 [13:51] <Redoko> Getting this problem, anyone help? http://s3.amazonaws.com/satisfaction-production/s3_images/536696/Troubleshoot_inline.png
#1483 [13:51] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: fatal 4 for lwjgl?
#1484 [13:51] <Redoko> I'm registered and connceted to the internet
#1485 [13:51] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: Most sales people don't know either, or just lie =/
#1486 [13:51] <Jess> it cannot connect to minecraft .net so cant install the.jar
#1487 [13:51] <Acid20> well then ill have to wait
#1488 [13:51] <Ryladine> Kii ^^ that
#1489 [13:52] <Ryladine> No host modifications/firewall/AV
#1490 [13:52] <haloman61> redoko you need a fast computer and 100 space
#1491 [13:52] <Thrae> Redoko: Are you using Windows? At this point Minecraft will start downloading DLLs and Anti-Virus / Firewalls / Internet Protection / etc. can block that, sometimes even silently.
#1492 [13:52] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: stalling there can be video drivers.
#1493 [13:52] <Redoko> I have a fast computer and plenty of space.
#1494 [13:52] <Ryladine> Thats why I had him updat them
#1495 [13:52] <Ryladine> update*
#1496 [13:52] <|Kiikun|> then update java.. and do a reinst
#1497 [13:52] <Thrae> Ryladine: Just in case I would have them try in "Safe Mode with Networking" on a Fatal Error 4 on Windows
#1498 [13:52] <Jess> ...
#1499 [13:52] <haloman61> redoko what sever do you have
#1500 [13:52] <Thrae> Ryladine: If nothing else works
#1501 [13:52] <Ryladine> Java is up to date, didn't think of the reinst
#1502 [13:53] <Redoko> Sever?
#1503 [13:53] <Ryladine> JEss: listen to voxels next instructions please.
#1504 [13:53] <Redoko> Server?
#1505 [13:53] <Jess> ok
#1506 [13:53] <Thrae> I've had people swear nothing on their computer could be interfering and then it works in Safe Mode
#1507 [13:53] <Ryladine> ??> Jess win/reinst
#1508 [13:53] <VoxelHead> Jess: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1509 [13:53] <VoxelHead> Jess: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1510 [13:53] <Ryladine> Thrae: :) Yeah, my AV runs it's own service
#1511 [13:53] <|Kiikun|> Ryladine: oh.. and antivirus coudl be doing it too
#1512 [13:53] <haloman61> redoko like windows
#1513 [13:54] <Ryladine> KLii yeah, he has no AV installed
#1514 [13:54] <Jess> done that :/ thanks :)
#1515 [13:54] <|Kiikun|> haloman61: Windows is an OS.. not a server.
#1516 [13:54] <Ryladine> You did that already jess?
#1517 [13:54] <Jess> thats where the problem started
#1518 [13:54] <Thrae> Ryladine: Yeah, mine too, but when it's disabled via the system tray it's disabled
#1519 [13:54] <Redoko> Windows 7.
#1520 [13:54] <Jess> i cannot reinstsll .jar
#1521 [13:54] <Ryladine> Not mine apparently lol
#1522 [13:54] <haloman61> just tell me what do you have redoko
#1523 [13:54] <Ryladine> Jess: Safe mod with networking it is then!
#1524 [13:54] <Jess> ok :)
#1525 [13:54] <Ryladine> Jess: You know how to boot windows into safemode?
#1526 [13:54] <Redoko> What exactly? Laptop? Platform?
#1527 [13:55] <Jess> yes
#1528 [13:55] * Thrae just uses the first hit off google for Safe Mode -- http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm
#1528 [13:55] <Ryladine> Jess: Try it there.
#1529 [13:55] <Jess> you just select it from te menu?
#1530 [13:55] <haloman61> then do you have 100 gb redoko
#1531 [13:55] <Jess> ok
#1532 [13:55] <Ryladine> Jess: Uhh
#1533 [13:55] <Ryladine> Jess: Not really lol
#1534 [13:55] <Thrae> Jess: Make sure it's "Safe Mode with Networking", not just "Safe Mode" from the F8 menu
#1535 [13:55] <Redoko> Of free space on the HDD?
#1536 [13:56] <haloman61> redoko yes
#1537 [13:56] <Redoko> Yes.
#1538 [13:56] <Ryladine> I need to go, Sorry Jess
#1539 [13:56] <Thrae> Jess: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm
#1540 [13:57] <haloman61> redoko soz then i do not nkow try youtube :(((((
#1541 [13:57] <Thrae> Redoko: I'm not sure what haloman61 is asking of you, but do you have any AV software, Internet Protection, Firewall, etc.?
#1542 [13:58] <Redoko> AVG. They're not stopping anything. I had Minecraft running this morning.
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#1544 [13:58] <haloman61> thrae im not a pro
#1545 [13:59] <Thrae> Redoko: Actually, we've had a LOT of trouble with AVG getting a false positive on some of Minecraft's files and stopping downloads. Have you tried disabling the resident protection?
#1546 [13:59] <Redoko> Yes. To no avail. I am not new to computers.
#1547 [13:59] <Thrae> Redoko: OK, then do you know how to go into Safe Mode with Networking?
#1548 [14:00] <Redoko> Yes, I'll give it a go.
#1549 [14:00] <Redoko> Thanks.
#1550 [14:00] <Thrae> Redoko: Sure, just note that Safe Mode doesn't load your video card drivers and the generic ones doesn't support 3D and he's gone
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#1552 [14:01] <|Kiikun|> lol
#1553 [14:02] <|Kiikun|> itll download and black screen :P
#1554 [14:02] <Ryladine|AFK> lol
#1555 [14:02] <Ryladine|AFK> Now, back to being afk
#1556 [14:03] <Thrae> Well, that means it's his computer blocking it and Java is probably working too if he gets past it, which is the point
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#1558 [14:03] <Jess> well...it worked.... untill an error popped up telling me i had the wrong drivers ;)
#1559 [14:04] <Thrae> Jess: Yep that's because Safe Mode loads generic drivers without support for GPU acceleration. So we now know it's something being loaded when you boot normally that's causing the error, and Java is fine.
#1560 [14:04] <Jess> hello?
#1561 [14:05] <Jess> ok )
#1562 [14:05] <Jess> *:)
#1563 [14:05] <Jess> so... whadda i do?
#1564 [14:05] <Thrae> Jess: You'll have to use process of elimination to figure out what's going on with the processes your computer normally loads if you already disabled your Anti-Virus, Firewall, Internet Protection, etc.
#1565 [14:05] <Jess> i have none atm
#1566 [14:06] <Thrae> Jess: Something on your machine is causing it that Safe Mode is preventing from loading, that's unrelated to Java or Minecraft
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#1568 [14:07] <Thrae> Jess: https://kb.wisc.edu/helpdesk/page.php?id=1688 <-- use msconfig to disable all startup programs and see if that fixes it, then process of elimination
#1569 [14:07] <mib_03y93o> hi
#1570 [14:09] <Jess> i fixed it ;)
#1571 [14:09] <Jess> i did what you said but i did it using windows taskmanager
#1572 [14:09] <Thrae> Jess: Ah, OK. We'd be happy to know what process was doing it :)
#1573 [14:10] <Jess> openoffice i think and roxio burn
#1574 [14:10] <Jess> :P)
#1575 [14:10] <Jess> :)
#1576 [14:10] <mariettagecko> hmmm
#1577 [14:10] <[L]> VoxelHead
#1578 [14:10] <mariettagecko> What's +q?
#1579 [14:10] <[L]> Stop being a twat
#1580 [14:10] <Thrae> OpenOffice and Roxio Burn?! That doesn't sound right...
#1581 [14:10] <[L]> +q = Mute
#1582 [14:10] <mariettagecko> ahhh
#1583 [14:11] <Thrae> I know OpenOffice is also made by Sun/Orcale, hmm
#1584 [14:11] <Jess> i ended the process tree
#1585 [14:11] <Jess> not just the proces
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#1587 [14:13] * Thrae still isn't convinced
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#1589 [14:13] <Uitvlucht> Hello?
#1590 [14:13] <Jess> i ended the process tree nt just the process
#1591 [14:13] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: Yes?
#1592 [14:13] <Uitvlucht> Well, i probaly got a bug or a glitch but idk
#1593 [14:14] <Uitvlucht> I just log in to minecraft,on server or download
#1594 [14:14] <Uitvlucht> it loads, but before i get 2 the menu it just floops away
#1595 [14:14] <Uitvlucht> it's gone then
#1596 [14:14] <Uitvlucht> and by browser the screen just stays black
#1597 [14:14] <Thrae> Jess: Yeah I'm still not sure what's causing it. It definitely doesn't sound like a problem with Minecraft, more like another program is behaving badly.
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#1599 [14:14] <Jess> yeah
#1600 [14:15] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: OK, are you playing Beta in browser or Classic?
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#1602 [14:15] <mib_4qh046> hi kann mir jemand helfen
#1603 [14:15] <Uitvlucht> Beta
#1604 [14:15] <mib_4qh046> bei mir laüft minecraft net meh in multiplayer
#1605 [14:15] <Uitvlucht> @ Thrae
#1606 [14:16] <mib_4qh046> l
#1607 [14:16] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: OK, can you use the launcher?
#1608 [14:16] <Uitvlucht> the what? :$
#1609 [14:17] <Uitvlucht> Thrae: I'll discribe what happens
#1610 [14:17] <Uitvlucht> i click on minecraft
#1611 [14:17] <Uitvlucht> i type my name and password correctly
#1612 [14:17] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: When you go to http://www.minecraft.net/download , you can download the launcher that lets you play offline without a browser.
#1613 [14:17] <Uitvlucht> press log in
#1614 [14:17] <Uitvlucht> and then the screen goes away\
#1615 [14:17] <Uitvlucht> Thrae: i already downloaded it\
#1616 [14:18] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: OK, so did you actually try playing through http://www.minecraft.net/play ?
#1617 [14:19] <Uitvlucht> Yes
#1618 [14:19] <Uitvlucht> But after i logged in, the screen turns black
#1619 [14:19] <Uitvlucht> and stays black
#1620 [14:19] <Uitvlucht> @Thrae
#1621 [14:19] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: OK, did you load in any mods or texture packs?
#1622 [14:20] <Uitvlucht> Nu
#1623 [14:20] <Uitvlucht> I never came further then press my username and password and then press log in
#1624 [14:20] <Uitvlucht> after that the screen turns black
#1625 [14:20] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: Are you using Windows, Mac, or Linux?
#1626 [14:20] <Uitvlucht> Thrae: Windows
#1627 [14:21] <Uitvlucht> And i downloaded the windows version.
#1628 [14:21] <Thrae> ??> Uitvlucht win/dxdiag
#1629 [14:21] <VoxelHead> Uitvlucht: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1630 [14:21] <VoxelHead> Uitvlucht: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1631 [14:21] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: Follow those instructions and we'll take a look at your hardware.
#1632 [14:21] <Uitvlucht> The win key? :$
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#1634 [14:22] <Thrae> ?? win/key
#1635 [14:22] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1636 [14:22] <Uitvlucht> thx
#1637 [14:22] <jonnyshortman> Anybody think they can help me with a problem I'm having running my Minecraft.exe?
#1638 [14:22] <Thrae> jonnyshortman: Possibly. If you have an error, paste it on www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#1639 [14:23] <jonnyshortman> No error, the .exe just won't open.
#1640 [14:23] <jonnyshortman> I tried downloading it again. I tried restarting my computer. It just refuses to open up to the launcher.
#1641 [14:25] <Uitvlucht> ?? WHQL
#1642 [14:25] <Uitvlucht> it says: If prompted about veryfing WHQL selecht yes
#1643 [14:25] <Uitvlucht> but i'm dutch so i don't know what WHQL means\
#1644 [14:25] <Uitvlucht> is it a shortcut for something?
#1645 [14:26] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: When you open DxDiag it may give a message. Just hit "Yes".
#1646 [14:27] <Thrae> jonnyshortman: Does it work through the browser?
#1647 [14:27] <Uitvlucht> ok, did
#1648 [14:27] <jonnyshortman> I didn't try. Give me a sec and I'll see.
#1649 [14:28] <jonnyshortman> It is telling me that my java plug-in is out of date.
#1650 [14:28] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: OK, follow the rest of the instructions from there.
#1651 [14:28] <Thrae> jonnyshortman: Yep that could be your problem -- go to http://www.java.com/en/download if you're using Windows
#1652 [14:29] <Uitvlucht> Do you want me to copy-paste that link in here too/
#1653 [14:29] <Thrae> Yes, the pastebin.com link
#1654 [14:29] <Uitvlucht> http://pastebin.com/kDDnA8Vd
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#1656 [14:29] <Uitvlucht> i can give you another report too
#1657 [14:29] <Uitvlucht> i get a new document if minecraft fails
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#1659 [14:29] <Uitvlucht> every time
#1660 [14:30] <Drezi> !check 63.223.78.251
#1661 [14:30] <Drezi> !check 63.223.78.251:1337
#1662 [14:30] <jonnyshortman> Bingo Thrae. I got it to work. I guess that update was it. Thanks for the help!
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#1664 [14:31] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: OK, I think there's a known problem with the Toshiba Satellite C66x models not coming with drivers that support OpenGL properly, one sec...
#1665 [14:31] * Thrae nods to jonnyshortman
#1665 [14:32] <Uitvlucht> So my laptop is reacting bad on Minecraft?
#1666 [14:32] <Uitvlucht> Omfg '-.-
#1667 [14:32] <Uitvlucht> Minecraft was 1 of the biggest reason i bought it
#1668 [14:32] <RobinJ24> no just the drivers
#1669 [14:32] <Uitvlucht> and how do i change them? :$
#1670 [14:36] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: Yeah if you do a search for "minecraft satellite c660" you'll get all kinds of horror stories -- it's Toshiba's fault with their image of the notebook
#1671 [14:36] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: What's your model number specifically?
#1672 [14:37] <Uitvlucht> I thought c600-121
#1673 [14:37] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: For future reference, don't buy notebooks for gaming that don't have a dedicated GPU
#1674 [14:38] <Uitvlucht> And now?
#1675 [14:38] <Thrae> The Satellite C660 is a cheap notebook brand that doesn't come with a dedicated GPU, instead a GPU-on-CPU "graphics pipeline" by Intel
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#1677 [14:40] <Uitvlucht> And can i fix it?
#1678 [14:40] <Uitvlucht> Cause i kinda buyed a laptop so i can play games
#1679 [14:40] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: What's the unit's serial number? I'm searching on Toshiba Europe's website and I see C660-120 and C660-125 but no C660-121
#1680 [14:40] <Uitvlucht> Cause my old computer wasn't able to download anything but some stupid, little games
#1681 [14:40] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: Well, even if we get Minecraft working, don't expect modern games to work very well at all on this particular laptop
#1682 [14:41] <Thrae> Maybe super-casual games that run in Adobe Air or Flash or some other super-lightweight engine, just not very much 3D
#1683 [14:41] <Uitvlucht> Atm its just about minecraft
#1684 [14:41] <Thrae> Basically your laptop has about the graphics power of tiny bit better than a standard "netbook"
#1685 [14:41] <Uitvlucht> And serial number is C660-121
#1686 [14:41] <Thrae> That's the model number, I need the serial number
#1687 [14:42] <Uitvlucht> i think 73-95-47-00
#1688 [14:43] <Uitvlucht> or isn't that a serial number?
#1689 [14:43] <Thrae> Not valid on Toshiba Europe...lemme specifically try the Dutch site
#1690 [14:43] <Uitvlucht> i bought it on wehkamp.nl ...
#1691 [14:43] <Uitvlucht> if that is needable :P
#1692 [14:44] <Thrae> Looks like Toshiba Netherlands is part of Toshiba Europe, hmmm...
#1693 [14:46] <Thrae> OK, using the Country Selector I'm in to Toshiba Netherlands, wonderbar, but I still don't see C660-121
#1694 [14:46] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: See if the "Auto Detect" works at https://nl.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/generic/SUPPORT_PORTAL/
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#1697 [14:52] <Thrae> Uitvlucht: Aha! Found it -- https://support1.toshiba-tro.de/tedd-files2/0/display-20110526160320.zip
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#1700 [14:56] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Ok, rules read, hope I will avoid blundering.
#1701 [14:57] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Running WindowsXP, installed MineCraft, game starts, download stuff, then crashes. I removed Java, rebooted, reinstalled java, still crashes.
#1702 [14:57] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Does minecraft has problems with non standard configurations, like having 3 screens on two different graphic cards ?
#1703 [15:01] <Thrae> Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze: That's exactly how I run my setup (used to be 4 screens on 3 GPUs!). Java + OpenGL is VERY compatible, but sometimes video card drivers have problems with multi-monitor setups, specifically Nvidia SLI(
#1704 [15:02] <Thrae> Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze: Does Java give you a crash report? If so, paste it to www.pastebin.com and give us the link. Or if there are any files like hs_err_pid
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#1706 [15:03] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Thrae, I'm not running SLI. Basically I have a Geforce GTX 560Ti as main graphic card, plus a small ridiculous 8400 something for the third screen. I don't have any crash report because unfortunately the error seems to be caught by the Visual Studio error catch box.
#1707 [15:03] <Thrae> Hmm, then it's not a Java error, but the program just crashing and Windows reporting it.
#1708 [15:04] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> So after login I see for a fraction of a second the "Updating Minecraft" and then "unhandled win 32 exception in javaw.exe [4080]
#1709 [15:04] <Thrae> I personally have a 470 + 8800 GS + 9400 GT so I know it's not that
#1710 [15:04] <Thrae> Does it crash on all your screens?
#1711 [15:04] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Can try
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#1714 [15:05] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Yup
#1715 [15:05] <Thrae> I think it's drivers, but I'm just curious
#1716 [15:05] <Thrae> OK, what Nvidia driver version are you on?
#1717 [15:06] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> 280.26
#1718 [15:06] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Seems to be the last one on nvidia site
#1719 [15:06] <Thrae> I'm on 285.27, but I never had problems with 280.26
#1720 [15:07] <Thrae> However, I use modded drivers
#1721 [15:07] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> (ok, latest stables)
#1722 [15:07] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Yeah I have bog standard drivers, not even the ones that came with the card :)
#1723 [15:08] <Thrae> Try the beta? You can always rollback. And do a "Clean Install" with the setup
#1724 [15:08] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> I'm running pretty many 3d games without any issues
#1725 [15:08] <Thrae> Yeah, but Minecraft uses an old version of OpenGL (1.3 for 1.8.1)
#1726 [15:08] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Yeah and it's not like if OpenGL was a first class citizen in Windows anyway
#1727 [15:09] <Thrae> We often see problems with drivers having weird issues with OpenGL
#1728 [15:09] <mr_trousers> My son is trying to set the router to play online. We have a Net Gear WNR2000-3 but the list of usable routers only goes to a -2. any ideas.
#1729 [15:09] <Thrae> Yeah...although Nvidia seems the most stable, usually
#1730 [15:09] <Thrae> Nvidia > ATI > Intel when it comes to OpenGL compatibility I've found
#1731 [15:09] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Thrae, I see 285.27 and 285.38, suggestion ?
#1732 [15:10] <Thrae> Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze: Well I'm on 285.27, so I suggest that
#1733 [15:10] <Thrae> mr_trousers: List of usable routers where? portforward.com ?
#1734 [15:10] <Thrae> Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze: I've also had Clean Installs fix issues like this too, so that's just as important
#1735 [15:10] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Downloading...
#1736 [15:11] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> The gf will not be able to say after that, that I did not try hard enough to get the game to run /D
#1737 [15:11] <mr_trousers> It was in the setup that he was sent to.
#1738 [15:13] <Thrae> mr_trousers: OK, most people suggest www.portforward.com so I'm guessing that (not a Minecraft-specific site). Just try the "-2" one and see if the instructions are the same.
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#1740 [15:13] <mr_trousers> K thanks
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#1748 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> !topic /4/pre/pre3/
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#1750 [15:36] <mib_ygpxw7> when is 1.9 going live?
#1751 [15:36] <DopeGhoti> When Mojang decides to release it
#1752 [15:36] <mib_ygpxw7> ah
#1753 [15:43] <RobinJ24> Dopefish?
#1754 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> Yes?
#1755 [15:44] <RobinJ24> thats what your nick means?
#1756 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> well, that's how it's pronounced, if that's what you're asking.
#1757 [15:45] <RobinJ24> Yup
#1758 [15:49] <mariettagecko> that comment to the mib was dope, fish-man.
#1759 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> I do what I can
#1760 [15:51] * DopeGhoti is sometimes more dope than heroin.
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#1761 [15:56] <Drezi> !check 63.223.78.251:1337
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#1763 [15:57] <jimbo8> hey
#1764 [15:57] <jimbo8> i need help
#1765 [15:57] <JohnEBH> ??> jimbo8 ask
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#1767 [15:57] <VoxelHead> jimbo8: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1768 [15:57] <VoxelHead> jimbo8: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1769 [15:58] <jimbo8> my server says " Port already in use"
#1770 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> that means there's already another process (likely another server) using that TCP port. Stop the other server, or select another port.
#1771 [15:59] <jimbo8> I have tried everything
#1772 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> everything other than the two suggestions I just gave.
#1773 [15:59] <JohnEBH> Probably improperly closed the last server he had, or the Java process failed to end.
#1774 [15:59] <jimbo8> nope, i only got 1 server
#1775 [16:00] <jimbo8> i have rebooted my computer like 6 times :(
#1776 [16:00] <DopeGhoti> I'm guessing you're running Windows, then.
#1777 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> mind pastebinning a copy of your server.properties file, as well as the entire log from the server when you attempt to start it?
#1778 [16:01] <DopeGhoti> ?? pastebin
#1779 [16:01] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1780 [16:01] <jimbo8> ok
#1781 [16:02] <jimbo8> http://pastebin.com/fPkuUvt4
#1782 [16:02] <DopeGhoti> !topic add MC for Android *might* be out tomorrow
#1783 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> jimbo8: okay, good. Now please pastebin the output of running this command: netstat -o
#1784 [16:05] <DopeGhoti> I'm sorry, make that netstat -oan
#1785 [16:06] <jimbo8> http://pastebin.com/8aqb0b5n
#1786 [16:06] <jimbo8> my pc is norwegian
#1787 [16:06] <jimbo8> btw
#1788 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> not a problem; the output is the same (:
#1789 [16:07] <jimbo8> ok (:
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#1791 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> okay, good news and bad news:
#1792 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> the good news is that you don't actually have anything usupring that TCP port
#1793 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> the bad news is that you're running Hamachi
#1794 [16:08] <DopeGhoti> ?? fubar/hamachi
#1795 [16:08] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1796 [16:08] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1797 [16:09] <jimbo8> Aha, so i have to uninstall hamachi?
#1798 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> that would be a good start
#1799 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> if that doesn't fix you up, try this:
#1800 [16:09] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/profile
#1801 [16:09] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1802 [16:09] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1803 [16:10] <jimbo8> That have not been any problem before.. like 2 months ago i got a no hamachi server with like 15 peoples on but now it doesnt work :(
#1804 [16:11] <DopeGhoti> That may be so, but honestly, Hamachi is _all_ kinds of broken
#1805 [16:11] <jimbo8> Okay, sorry for asking, but how can i access my friends servers then? They use hamachi..
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#1808 [16:13] <jimbo8> when i got my old server, then i used hamachi too
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#1810 [16:13] <Raq> Hey
#1811 [16:13] <jimbo8> but not on my server
#1812 [16:13] <Raq> Having a small problem with the new minecraft server software
#1813 [16:13] <mib_wcho6m> hi
#1814 [16:13] <Raq> Well, I say small, its pretty huge and annoying
#1815 [16:14] <Raq> http://pastebin.com/KCJVFCxz
#1816 [16:14] <mib_wcho6m> i cant download minecraft
#1817 [16:14] <Raq> Whenever I try to start the server using 1.9 minecraft I get that error,. I cannot replicate it on 1.8 or craftbukkit using the same commands to run the server
#1818 [16:15] <mariettagecko> Raq: From what I'm seeing there, it almost looks like the issue has more to do with your jvm than the minecraft app itself.
#1819 [16:15] <mariettagecko> What version of java have you got loaded on your server?
#1820 [16:15] <Raq> mariettagecko, thats what I thought
#1821 [16:15] <Raq> But I cannot replicate it with any other minecraft server software
#1822 [16:16] <Raq> Using OpenJDK on CentOS
#1823 [16:16] <mariettagecko> Don't use opendk.
#1824 [16:16] <Raq> Yeah yeah, ive heard the stories
#1825 [16:16] <mariettagecko> Get the Sun JDK.
#1826 [16:16] <Raq> But its never been a problem before
#1827 [16:16] <Raq> I mean
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#1829 [16:17] <mariettagecko> On my server, I tried with openjdk on ubuntu, and I couldn't get the server to work at all, even on 1.7.3.
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#1831 [16:17] <Raq> See, Ive got it working with many different server software
#1832 [16:17] <mariettagecko> When I loaded SunJDK, it worked like a charm.
#1833 [16:17] <Raq> Since.. 1.5
#1834 [16:17] <mariettagecko> I would say that it sounds like you've been lucky that it's been working with openjdk.
#1835 [16:17] <mariettagecko> At least try using the Sun JDK and see if it works.
#1836 [16:17] <Raq> Hm
#1837 [16:17] <Raq> I'll give it a shot
#1838 [16:18] <mariettagecko> If it doesn't, then at least you know that the JDK isn't the source of the issue.
#1839 [16:18] <Raq> heh, true
#1840 [16:19] <mariettagecko> And then you can come back here and tell me "I told you so" and I'll accept that you were right.
#1841 [16:20] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#1842 [16:21] <mariettagecko> Snickering at me, fish?
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#1845 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> more what you said, mariettagecko.
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#1847 [16:26] <mariettagecko> That was basically my point, but yeah
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#1854 [16:35] <snwspeckle> Hey guys I really need some help.
#1855 [16:35] <snwspeckle> Is there any direct Mojang Staff here since this issue is a direct issue with the player database.
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#1859 [16:41] <snwspeckle> guys
#1860 [16:41] <snwspeckle> I really need some help
#1861 [16:41] <mib_ow3a2s> So here’s full story: For a while now, I haven’t been able to login to my minecraft client version and when I try online it just becomes a white window. So far I only see 2 possible causes for this.
#1862 [16:42] <mib_ow3a2s> 1. I have recently tried to upload custom made skins and once when I tried it online it worked. Also I have since reset my skin to the original.
#1863 [16:42] <snwspeckle> META-INF issue probably
#1864 [16:42] <Ryladine|AFK> aLRIGHT.
#1865 [16:42] <Ryladine|AFK> Oops
#1866 [16:42] <snwspeckle> I can even login to minecraft
#1867 [16:42] <snwspeckle> My account got deleted
#1868 [16:42] <snwspeckle> but my username fricken exists
#1869 [16:43] <mib_ow3a2s> 2. I also have and use MC Edit but I also take extreme care to close ALL minecraft stuff before using it
#1870 [16:43] <Ryladine> snwspeckle: Can you explain a bit better? There are no mojang staff here, and there will no be.
#1871 [16:43] <Ryladine> not*
#1872 [16:43] <mib_ow3a2s> well that's all i know
#1873 [16:43] <Ryladine> snwspeckle: You should email mojang for assistance with account problems.
#1874 [16:43] <mib_ow3a2s> kk
#1875 [16:44] <snwspeckle> I am saying my account email and password were deleted from my account, but the username still exists. It makes 0 sense and no Mojang staff ever help.
#1876 [16:44] <snwspeckle> I do, they won't respond and its been 2 weeks...
#1877 [16:44] <Ryladine> Mib I'm not talking to you right now.
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#1879 [16:44] <Ryladine> Hello nyt
#1880 [16:44] <Ryladine> snwspeckle: We cannot help with account issues. The only things you can try is password recovery and emailing mojang.
#1881 [16:45] <snwspeckle> Dude, my email doesn't exist on the account anymore and Mojang never answers support.
#1882 [16:45] <Ryladine> And mib just ignored me and left without getting the help intended for them. Nice.
#1883 [16:45] <Ryladine> snwspeckle: We are compleltely incapable of helping with account issues here.
#1884 [16:45] <snwspeckle> I tried tweeting mollstam and no response.
#1885 [16:46] <Ryladine> All I can tell you is this.
#1886 [16:46] <Ryladine> ?? account
#1887 [16:46] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#1888 [16:46] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
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#1890 [16:46] <Ryladine> That is the only help besides telling you to email we can give.
#1891 [16:46] <snwspeckle> Listen, their database deleted my info and no Mojang rep returns my emails.
#1892 [16:46] <Ryladine> Listen. We CANNOT help with account problems.
#1893 [16:47] <snwspeckle> I am asking how I can contact them otherwise
#1894 [16:47] <Ryladine> Email.
#1895 [16:47] <snwspeckle> They don't respond
#1896 [16:47] <Ryladine> TheNytangel: What is daniels email again?
#1897 [16:47] <TheNytangel> Who the hell is that
#1898 [16:47] <Ryladine> TheNytangel: is it daniel@mojang.com?
#1899 [16:48] <TheNytangel> I don't know what you are talking about
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#1901 [16:48] <snwspeckle> mollstam is in charge of the databases etc.
#1902 [16:48] <TheNytangel> This is not the droid you are looking for
#1903 [16:48] <Ryladine> Someone with mojang I've seen wug and them telling people to email
#1904 [16:49] <Ryladine> Not the droid? Lol
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#1906 [16:49] <Ryladine> Does anyone here need help besides snwspeckle?
#1907 [16:50] <Ryladine> mm
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#1910 [16:54] <Bryan> hey?
#1911 [16:55] <Ryladine> Hello
#1912 [16:55] <Bryan> well, can someone help me with my minecraft problem?
#1913 [16:56] <Ryladine> Well that depends, what is it?
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#1915 [16:56] <Iridium> hi
#1916 [16:56] <Ryladine> Hello.
#1917 [16:56] <Bryan> Well, my minecraft doesn't load, i mean it won't even let me type in my username or password.
#1918 [16:57] <snwspeckle> Delete META-INF
#1919 [16:57] <Ryladine> Bryan: Have you attempted to mod your client?
#1920 [16:57] <Bryan> i have to use task manager to even close it, well thats the thing, the entire .minecraft file is deleted.
#1921 [16:57] <Bryan> no.
#1922 [16:57] <Ryladine> Hm
#1923 [16:57] <Ryladine> Bryan: The .minecraft file is not there?
#1924 [16:57] <Iridium> you sure the client is up to date?
#1925 [16:57] <Ryladine> Bryan: Try downloading a new version of the .exe from minecraft.net
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#1927 [16:58] <Bryan> well the folder is there but the only thing in it is the bin folder with a "Version" file in it
#1928 [16:58] <Ryladine> Bryan: Try downloading a new version of the .exe from minecraft.net
#1929 [16:58] <Bryan> alright give me a few
#1930 [16:59] <Bryan> just did the same thing, but this time it's gray and black.
#1931 [16:59] <Ryladine> Bryan: What version of java do you have installed?
#1932 [17:00] <Bryan> how do i check that?
#1933 [17:00] <Ryladine> ??> Bryan java/version
#1934 [17:00] <VoxelHead> Bryan: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1935 [17:00] <VoxelHead> Bryan: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
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#1937 [17:02] <Bryan_> well that just crashed my browser
#1938 [17:02] <Ryladine> Hm
#1939 [17:02] <Ryladine> that should not happem.
#1940 [17:02] <Ryladine> Bryan: Has minecraft ever worked on your computer?
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#1942 [17:03] <Bryan__> alright, back sorry i restored the browser and it was running in the other window and crashed it again
#1943 [17:03] <Ryladine> Bryan: Has minecraft ever worked on your computer?
#1944 [17:03] <Bryan__> yes, i have had minecraft since version 1.6.3 (i think)
#1945 [17:03] <Ryladine> Bryan: Alright since that page crashed your browser I'm going to work under the assumption that java may have an issue.
#1946 [17:04] <Bryan__> yeah sounds about right. i mean why else would it crash the browser.
#1947 [17:04] <Ryladine> Bryan: Go ahead and uninstall it from your computer, all versions of it. You simply go to add adn remove programs in control panel, and uninstall them. Then reinstall the correct version for your OS from java.com
#1948 [17:05] <Ryladine> Bryan: If you do not know what OS you run I can help you find out.
#1949 [17:05] <Bryan__> sure just tell me how.
#1950 [17:06] <Drezi> !check 63.223.78.251:1337
#1951 [17:06] <Ryladine> Open control panel, and go to "system" It should say what it is there somewhere if you are running windows. I assume you would know if you were running a MAC.
#1952 [17:07] <Bryan__> yeah i am running windows
#1953 [17:07] <Ryladine> It will read as something like "Windows Vista Home Edition 64bit" or "Windows Xp PRo 32bit"
#1954 [17:07] <Bryan__> oh, well the windows edition is Windows 7 home premium
#1955 [17:08] <Ryladine> Does it list what bit it is? 64 or 32
#1956 [17:08] <Bryan__> 64
#1957 [17:08] <Ryladine> Alright, when you go to install java again you will want the version for windows 7 64 bit.
#1958 [17:08] <Ryladine> Please try reinstalling it now,
#1959 [17:09] <Bryan__> alright let me find it.
#1960 [17:11] <Bryan__> it's downloading
#1961 [17:11] <Ryladine> I may lose net in a second, just crashed explorer.exe
#1962 [17:12] <Ryladine> Once you have it downlaoded just uninstall java, and reinstall with what you downloaded
#1963 [17:12] <Bryan__> alright thank you
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#1967 [17:22] <Ryladine> I'm back. Brian are you there?
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#1969 [17:32] <mariettagecko> I return
#1970 [17:33] <Ryladine> Hello
#1971 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> Ryladine: next time you crash explorer.exe, hit C-A-Del, open Task Mangler, and re-run Explorer from there. No reboot needed!
#1972 [17:33] <Ryladine> I did
#1973 [17:33] <Ryladine> Lol it didn't fix it.
#1974 [17:33] <DopeGhoti> Also, from what Bryan__ described, it sounded like a glorious festival of malware and rootkits.
#1975 [17:34] <Ryladine> Ah I was going for a java error first
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#1977 [17:34] <mariettagecko> Malware and rootkits ftl!
#1978 [17:34] <Ryladine> Lol
#1979 [17:34] <Iridium> what's a rootkit?
#1980 [17:34] <mariettagecko> malware and rootkits and virii, oh my!
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#1982 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> Iridium: it's a particularly annoying flavor of malware
#1983 [17:35] <Ryladine> Dope, my problem wasn't just that it crashed, it came back, and was giving me an error about remote actions, even after I restarted the process again
#1984 [17:35] <Ryladine> :)
#1985 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> Ryladine: speaking of malware..
#1986 [17:35] <Ryladine> What about it?
#1987 [17:35] <mariettagecko> Iridium: basically, it's a program that gets into your system and gains full system access. Because of the level of access it can get, it can make it so that you can't even see it, it's so deep into the OS.
#1988 [17:35] * Ryladine 's system is clean he ran a full scan last night because his email got hacked.
#1988 [17:35] <DopeGhoti> ...
#1989 [17:35] <Ryladine> lol
#1990 [17:35] <Iridium> ouch that is nasty
#1991 [17:36] <mariettagecko> and if you can't see it, neither can your AV products.
#1992 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> Iridium: one of the better-known rootkits that's presented as DRM software is SecuROM
#1993 [17:36] <Ryladine> Not too bad, besides the emails to disabled@facebook.com and sales@blizard.com
#1994 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> they basically tie into the kernel itself to hide from any tools to see what processes are running, etc.
#1995 [17:37] <Ryladine> Dope, you ever heard of a scareware called "Clean-This" ?
#1996 [17:37] <Iridium> yeah i keep getting phishing mails from 'ccp' telling me i've got loads of cool free stuff in eve -.-'
#1997 [17:37] <mariettagecko> Iridium: Actually...
#1998 [17:38] <mariettagecko> ccp does give you some free stuff if you return after not having played for a while.
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#2000 [17:38] <Iridium> they probably do but i'd still rather not
#2001 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> X3 is like Eve Online, only it's fun.
#2002 [17:39] <mariettagecko> DopeGhoti: What I really love are the people who call you on your home phone and tell you that they're from the Windows Helpdesk, and that you have a problem with your system.
#2003 [17:39] <mariettagecko> See, I actually enjoy Eve O
#2004 [17:39] <Ryladine> Lol I love those
#2005 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> mariettagecko: I.. have never had such a thing happen to me.
#2006 [17:39] <Ryladine> The ones on skype are fun too
#2007 [17:39] <mariettagecko> I haven't either, but I keep hearing about it.
#2008 [17:39] <DopeGhoti> though I do get occasional calls from jokers names "SYSTEM ALERT" and stuff on Skype
#2009 [17:40] <Ryladine> Dope, you ever heard of a scareware called "Clean This"?
#2010 [17:40] <mariettagecko> Then again, it probably has to do with the fact that, although I have a home phone line, I don't answer it unless the person is willing to leave a message.
#2011 [17:40] <DopeGhoti> Probably, but there are so many of them.
#2012 [17:40] <mariettagecko> and most of those don't.
#2013 [17:40] <Ryladine> Lol it's a fun one, takes over the windows login and everything
#2014 [17:40] <mariettagecko> Of course, it would be far too amusing to get one of those calls.
#2015 [17:40] <Iridium> this is odd, pressing enter on chatzilla is just creating new lines...
#2016 [17:40] <mariettagecko> I'd confuse the crap outta the guy calling me.
#2017 [17:40] <Iridium> and i don't have shift held
#2018 [17:40] <Iridium> oh there we go it sorted itself :P
#2019 [17:41] <Iridium> what i was trying to say was i doubt ccp would be giving me 10 free plex
#2020 [17:41] <mariettagecko> He'd be going on about windows this and windows that and click this and type that, and I'd try to do *EXACTLY* what he was saying.
#2021 [17:41] <mariettagecko> Problem is, I don't think there's any Windows commands that work quite the same on Ubuntu...
#2022 [17:41] <Ryladine> LOL
#2023 [17:41] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2024 [17:42] <mariettagecko> Basically, those guys get you to buy and download malware, then charge you to uninstall it again.
#2025 [17:42] <DopeGhoti> "it just keeps saying 'bash: iexplore.exe: command not found'; I don't know what else to tell you, Sir or Ma'am or Other."
#2026 [17:42] <mariettagecko> Exactly!
#2027 [17:43] <mariettagecko> "Start button? I'm sorry, sir, but I don't seem to have a start button"
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#2029 [17:44] <DopeGhoti> "When I pushed the Start Button, my computer shut off."
#2030 [17:44] <mariettagecko> Yeah, those guys are a real piece of work.
#2031 [17:44] <mariettagecko> I hear about them on Security Now quite a bit, recently
#2032 [17:45] <DopeGhoti> I hate having now to direct people to "click the whatever-microsoft-calls-the-start-button-now-that-it-no-longer-says-"start"-on-it button"
#2033 [17:45] <mariettagecko> Seems they are doing their best to scam every dime outta the lusers
#2034 [17:45] <mariettagecko> Yeah, really.
#2035 [17:45] * Ryladine wonders if we should stop them
#2035 [17:45] <Ryladine> Nah
#2036 [17:46] <mariettagecko> It's times like those that you want to take a LART to whomever the original idjit was who came up with that "bright" idea.
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#2038 [17:47] <Ryladine> Dope, have you notice me pc issues recently? I was wondering if you might have a suggestion before I resintall windows
#2039 [17:47] <mariettagecko> w, are you having fun playing in the revolving door?
#2040 [17:47] <Ryladine> my*
#2041 [17:47] <Ryladine> noticed*
#2042 [17:47] * w breaks down in tears
#2042 [17:47] <mariettagecko> Ryladine: My recommendation would be to get yourself a live chicken and a sharp knife...
#2043 [17:47] * w throws his router out the window
#2043 [17:47] <Ryladine> LOL
#2044 [17:47] <Raq> mariettagecko, just wanted to say
#2045 [17:47] <Raq> You are right
#2046 [17:47] <Raq> two morepeople with openjdk cant run it
#2047 [17:47] <mariettagecko> Raq: Awesome. I'm glad to hear that the issue got fixed.
#2048 [17:48] <Raq> Not a isolated case
#2049 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> Ryladine: the^Wa solution to your problem can be found at http://www.distrowatch.com/
#2050 [17:48] <mariettagecko> Ryladine: You'l also need to get yourself some taper candles and a copy of the Necronomicon.
#2051 [17:49] <mariettagecko> Dope, let me guess... Install Linux instead of Winblows?
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#2053 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> mariettagecko: or alongside.
#2054 [17:49] <Ryladine> Lol
#2055 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> I don't judge
#2056 [17:49] <Ryladine> I tried linux though!
#2057 [17:50] <Ryladine> I broke it in 20 minutes!
#2058 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> try harder.
#2059 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> and don't play around as UID 0
#2060 [17:50] <mariettagecko> That too.
#2061 [17:50] <mariettagecko> do *NOTHING* as root.
#2062 [17:50] <Ryladine> Lol I wasn't as a root, I still broke it
#2063 [17:50] <mariettagecko> unless it's *ABSOLUTELY* necessary.
#2064 [17:50] <mariettagecko> besides which, sudo is your friend.
#2065 [17:51] <mariettagecko> speaking of which, make me a sandwich.
#2066 [17:51] <TheNoodle> heh, well I called it.
#2067 [17:51] <Ryladine> All I did was try to get my video drivers on it lol, with absolutley no understanding of how to do so. :)
#2068 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> The fundamental difference between Windows and POSIX, is that Windows assumes your're a blithering idiot and often won't let you do what you need to, whilst POSIX assumes that it's your damn computer and you can dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda if you want to.
#2069 [17:51] <Ryladine> lol
#2070 [17:51] <mariettagecko> dope, I have a fun one for you...
#2071 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> mariettagecko: make: *** No rule to make target `me'. Stop.
#2072 [17:51] <mariettagecko> yes|cat>temp
#2073 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> ?? linux/dontdothis
#2074 [17:52] <Ryladine> Windows isn't acting as if I'm a blithering idiot though! It's acting as if it wants to ignore it's own settings!
#2075 [17:52] <VoxelHead> linux/dontdothis: :():{:&:};:
#2076 [17:52] <Ryladine> lol
#2077 [17:52] <mariettagecko> DopeGhoti: sudo make me a sandwich
#2078 [17:52] <DopeGhoti> Ryladine: that's because you let some other blithering idiot tell your OS what to do.
#2079 [17:53] <Ryladine> lol
#2080 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> mariettagecko is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
#2081 [17:53] <Ryladine> That blithering idiot isn't showing self then
#2082 [17:53] <mariettagecko> ROFL!
#2083 [17:53] * VoxelHead adds mariettagecko to the 'naughty' list.
#2083 [17:53] <Ryladine> Ok... Thats about eight typo's now? I'm going to stop talking.
#2084 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> it might help; if your lips move when you type, you will typo more frequently.
#2085 [17:54] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, am I in the sudoers file?
#2086 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> Vox, is TheNytangel in the sudoers file?
#2087 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> oh, right.
#2088 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> Vox, is TheNytangel in the sudoers file?
#2089 [17:54] <VoxelHead> only with aikaramba in the butt
#2090 [17:55] <TheNytangel> Is that a yes? :P
#2091 [17:55] * DopeGhoti admonishes Vox.
#2091 [17:55] * VoxelHead . o O ( ? )
#2091 [17:55] <VoxelHead> ciao
#2092 [17:55] <TheNytangel> Tcuss
#2093 [17:56] <mariettagecko> ROFL!
#2094 [17:58] * VoxelHead laughs also, but isn't sure why.
#2094 [17:59] <TheNoodle> lol
#2095 [18:00] <Iridium> so i was thinking of making a bank for my server
#2096 [18:01] <Iridium> any ideas what'd be the best way?
#2097 [18:01] <TheNoodle> Well
#2098 [18:01] <DopeGhoti> rebar-enforced concrede and FDIC membership
#2099 [18:01] <TheNoodle> Install worldedit, then select to large points on the ground.
#2100 [18:01] <TheNoodle> Typ e //set 43
#2101 [18:01] <Iridium> i've got that
#2102 [18:02] <TheNoodle> lol
#2103 [18:02] <TheNoodle> You mean the plugin to control it?
#2104 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> Then fill it with chests which are in turn filled with gold ingots
#2105 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> get a Creeper security brigade
#2106 [18:02] <mariettagecko> DopeGhoti: I was rofling about your response to my sudo comment.
#2107 [18:02] <DopeGhoti> Then find some folks to loan funds to, and start raking in the usurious interest and fees
#2108 [18:03] <Iridium> okay i suppose i should have said a space saving bank
#2109 [18:03] <mariettagecko> DopeGhoti: are you familiar with XKCD?
#2110 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> I got it, mariettagecko
#2111 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> Vox didn't.
#2112 [18:03] <mariettagecko> Vox is a bot.
#2113 [18:03] <DopeGhoti> and yes, I check it thrice weekly (:
#2114 [18:03] <VoxelHead> LIES, ALL LIES
#2115 [18:03] <Iridium> i am
#2116 [18:03] <VoxelHead> unless a witness steps forward.
#2117 [18:03] <Iridium> read all of them
#2118 [18:03] <mariettagecko> Oh, my.,
#2119 [18:03] <mariettagecko> Anna boten, anyone?
#2120 [18:03] <VoxelHead> Gesundheit
#2121 [18:04] <mariettagecko> ha ha ha
#2122 [18:05] <mariettagecko> time for some HIMYM
#2123 [18:05] <aikaramba> VoxelHead, what?
#2124 [18:05] <VoxelHead> Cheese.
#2125 [18:05] <mariettagecko> head cheese?
#2126 [18:05] <DopeGhoti> vox, which kind of cheese?
#2127 [18:05] <VoxelHead> You are a bottomless pit of questions.
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#2129 [18:05] <mariettagecko> VoxelHead: insane
#2130 [18:06] <VoxelHead> Mmm Racerjj56.
#2131 [18:06] <VoxelHead> Please state your insult in the form of an insult.
#2132 [18:06] <mariettagecko> That wasn't an insult, anna.
#2133 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> ..who is anna?
#2134 [18:07] <mariettagecko> youtube anna boten and I think you may understand, Dope.
#2135 [18:07] <mariettagecko> Particularly, look for the ones with english subtitles.
#2136 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> can't youtube; at work
#2137 [18:08] <mariettagecko> awww
#2138 [18:10] <mariettagecko> basically, Voxelhead == anna boten
#2139 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> having Wikied, no, Vox is not my Significant Other
#2140 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> Vox is just Vox
#2141 [18:11] <mariettagecko> ummm.
#2142 [18:11] <VoxelHead> sum ergo sum
#2143 [18:13] <mariettagecko> uh huh
#2144 [18:13] <mariettagecko> Is that so?
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#2146 [18:15] <VoxelHead> is anything really so?
#2147 [18:16] <mariettagecko> uh huh
#2148 [18:18] <mariettagecko> but we all know Voxelhead is a bot.
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#2151 [18:21] <guest-0-73045> is there a way to connect to a minecraft beta server using java in my web browser ?
#2152 [18:22] <bratholmen> hello, anyone here who knows a little about dynmap? i asked in #dynmap but theres noone there
#2153 [18:22] <TheNoodle> and you end up here anyway bratholmen, you're looking for #bukkit
#2154 [18:22] <TheNoodle> :p
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#2156 [18:23] <bratholmen> lol, ok thanks again :)
#2157 [18:23] <TheNoodle> Could someone help guest-0-73045 please? I don't use minecraft on linux :P
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#2160 [18:23] <guest-0-73045> TheNoodle: I dont think there is a major difference between linux and or windows at this point, the thing is that I find the game launcher heavy for my computer , and usng it in a web broswer might make it smoother
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#2162 [18:24] <mariettagecko> guest-0-73045: to be honest, I haven't tried...
#2163 [18:24] * VoxelHead is away: manual-away
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#2164 [18:25] <guest-0-73045> mariettagecko: I found out about it on minecraft.net where you can access classic servers in a server list
#2165 [18:25] <guest-0-73045> but I didnt find a way to make it join my own servers
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#2167 [18:25] <mariettagecko> Not sure on that one. I always use the heavy client.
#2168 [18:27] <guest-0-73045> I guess it has something to do with the framerates reduced since the web browser already takes some load ...
#2169 [18:27] <mariettagecko> hmmm
#2170 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> the client isn't actually 'heavy' per se
#2171 [18:28] <mariettagecko> You know what I mean, fish
#2172 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> as you mentioned, it doesn't ahve the overhead of the browser or plugin infrastructure to deal with
#2173 [18:29] <guest-0-73045> indeed , but i'm trying every ways I might think of to find the best alternative to my problem
#2174 [18:29] * E-Harmonious [E-Harmonious@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2175 [18:29] <E-Harmonious> guys i need help
#2176 [18:29] <mariettagecko> What's the issue you were having with the thick ckient?
#2177 [18:29] <mariettagecko> client
#2178 [18:29] <E-Harmonious> well
#2179 [18:29] <E-Harmonious> i log in successfully enough
#2180 [18:29] <mariettagecko> E-Harmonious: Sorry, that wasn't directed to you.
#2181 [18:29] <E-Harmonious> then when i try to access the file
#2182 [18:30] <mariettagecko> E-Harmonious: what's the issue you're having though?
#2183 [18:30] <E-Harmonious> dam
#2184 [18:30] <guest-0-73045> I can join my buddy's server but as soon as it's someone else's server , it lags like ... well I cant move much actually
#2185 [18:30] <E-Harmonious> well mainly my skin isn't working
#2186 [18:30] <TheNoodle> mariettagecko, pick one and I'll take the other.
#2187 [18:30] <mariettagecko> TheNoodle: you take E
#2188 [18:31] <mariettagecko> TheNoodle: I'll take the guest
#2189 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> guest-0-73045: that sounds like a server issue more than a client one.
#2190 [18:31] <mariettagecko> And I'm with Dope on that one.
#2191 [18:31] <E-Harmonious> directed to me?
#2192 [18:31] <guest-0-73045> DopeGhoti: but the servers always counts around 10-40 clients
#2193 [18:31] <TheNoodle> Okay E-Harmonious, what file are you trying to contact?
#2194 [18:31] <guest-0-73045> I cant believe I am the only one experiencing lag issues
#2195 [18:31] <E-Harmonious> what do u mean?
#2196 [18:31] <TheNoodle> "then when i try to access the file" which file?
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#2198 [18:32] <mariettagecko> guest-0-73045: How much RAM have you got in your system?
#2199 [18:32] <E-Harmonious> um
#2200 [18:32] <E-Harmonious> its my minecraft world
#2201 [18:32] <guest-0-73045> it's a laptop and it sais I have 4 MB of ram
#2202 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> guest-0-73045: it's entirely possible. If the server is on a LAN in Helsinki with 20 people in the room, connected to the 'Net via IP over a HAM radio and acoustic coupler Modem contraption, the folks on the LAN will have no problems at all
#2203 [18:32] <guest-0-73045> I mean 4 GB sorry
#2204 [18:32] <E-Harmonious> the screen goes black
#2205 [18:32] <E-Harmonious> a flash of something about minecraft
#2206 [18:32] <E-Harmonious> then nothing
#2207 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> ??> E-Harmonious win/reinst
#2208 [18:32] <VoxelHead> E-Harmonious: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2209 [18:32] <VoxelHead> E-Harmonious: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2210 [18:32] <E-Harmonious> i figured it's because i tecnically don't have a skin
#2211 [18:33] <E-Harmonious> mate i got a mac
#2212 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> ?? mac/10.5.8
#2213 [18:33] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#2214 [18:33] <guest-0-73045> DopeGhoti: I just tried a server TheNoodle related me to on #smp
#2215 [18:33] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#2216 [18:33] <mariettagecko> guest-0-73045: and what happened?
#2217 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> E-Harmonious: if you have OS X v10.5.8, this is a known issue which will be fixed in 1.9
#2218 [18:34] <E-Harmonious> i do
#2219 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> See the above links for mor information then
#2220 [18:34] <E-Harmonious> i can't wait that long man
#2221 [18:34] <E-Harmonious> im going slightly insane
#2222 [18:34] <guest-0-73045> mariettagecko: huge lag, as I walk , the image change every 2-3 seconds as I am walking
#2223 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> or try the (unsupported) 1.9 preview releases (which also have known bugs)
#2224 [18:34] <mariettagecko> guest-0-73045: with any other server?
#2225 [18:34] <mariettagecko> guest-0-73045: or just that one?
#2226 [18:34] <E-Harmonious> thx guys
#2227 [18:35] <E-Harmonious> ill go check it out
#2228 [18:35] <guest-0-73045> mariettagecko: havent found one that isnt doing that yet , (except my buddy's one)
#2229 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> guest-0-73045: where in Canuckistan are you?
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#2231 [18:35] <guest-0-73045> DopeGhoti: Canada :P
#2232 [18:35] <mariettagecko> guest-0-73045: try crazyland.homelinux.net and tell me what happens?
#2233 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> Yes, I know that much. What province?
#2234 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> Which, rather.
#2235 [18:36] <DopeGhoti> mariettagecko: heh, I was about to have em test my server, but you done stole my thunder.
#2236 [18:36] <mariettagecko> hehehe
#2237 [18:36] <mariettagecko> Pretty much.
#2238 [18:36] <guest-0-73045> mariettagecko: works fine, as my buddy's server (wich is a linux server as well) but again , there is no one on crazyland ...
#2239 [18:37] <mariettagecko> guest-0-73045: Of course not... that's my server and it has exactly 1GB of RAM on it...
#2240 [18:37] <Iridium> hmm... i was trying to get a clean mc.jar by deleting it and hoping the client would give me a new one
#2241 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> guest-0-73045: the more people who are on a server, the more bandwidth _everyone_ uses.
#2242 [18:37] <Iridium> but it just froze on the downloading page
#2243 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Iridium: it will.
#2244 [18:37] <mariettagecko> and only six or seven total users.
#2245 [18:37] <guest-0-73045> mariettagecko: my buddys have 16 GB of ram on it actually , not much difference though
#2246 [18:37] <DopeGhoti> Iridium: er, should.
#2247 [18:38] <Iridium> it says updating minecraft, done loading, and the bar is stuck at 90% ish
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#2249 [18:38] <mariettagecko> guest-0-73045: and what sort of internet connection has he got?
#2250 [18:38] <guest-0-73045> but i'd like to join a place where I might find some nice people all the servers I find are ... else wrecked , filled with griefers, laggy or empty :(
#2251 [18:39] <guest-0-73045> mariettagecko: 100 MB down and 60 MB up I think
#2252 [18:39] <mariettagecko> hmmm
#2253 [18:39] <mariettagecko> hmmm.
#2254 [18:39] <guest-0-73045> 100 MB down is for sure
#2255 [18:39] <guest-0-73045> but still , there is no one on that server
#2256 [18:39] <mariettagecko> Sounds to me like your friend has a great connection. I have 3MB down and something like 256K up.
#2257 [18:40] <guest-0-73045> it's empty and I feel alone D:
#2258 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> guest-0-73045: there are scads of well-maintained community servers out there; pick your (non-MC-related) forum and I can all but guarantee you there's an MC Server thread.
#2259 [18:40] <mariettagecko> well, convince some friends to join you there.
#2260 [18:40] <guest-0-73045> so I am looking for great servers online, but I only can find some that are not playable
#2261 [18:40] <TheNoodle> http://minestatus.net
#2262 [18:41] <Iridium> ahh there we go
#2263 [18:41] <Iridium> i deleted the whole bin folder and now it works
#2264 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> Iridium: isn't that what we usually advise?
#2265 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> Iridium: glad you're up and running (:
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#2267 [18:41] <guest-0-73045> bookmarking that website * :p
#2268 [18:41] <mariettagecko> Of course, you could just go the whole way and format c:
#2269 [18:42] <Iridium> i've no idea, only just joined here a couple hours ago
#2270 [18:42] <Iridium> well not true, i came in for help months back
#2271 [18:43] <Iridium> am i right in thinking this isn't the place for help with mods?
#2272 [18:43] <DopeGhoti> you are, sir or ma'am or other, correct.
#2273 [18:43] <TheNoodle> Singleplayer - #risucraft bukkit - #bukkit
#2274 [18:44] <Iridium> thanks
#2275 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> \o
#2276 [18:44] <mariettagecko> Or you could go find a hamachi server somewhere...
#2277 [18:44] <mariettagecko> ;-)
#2278 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> Get out.
#2279 [18:44] <DopeGhoti> (:
#2280 [18:44] <TheNoodle> lol
#2281 [18:44] <mariettagecko> Had to be done.
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#2283 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> No, it didn't.
#2284 [18:45] <guest-0-73045> hamachi server ?
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#2286 [18:45] <mariettagecko> Yes, yes it did.
#2287 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2288 [18:45] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2289 [18:46] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2290 [18:47] <guest-0-73045> its something like Eris free networks :p
#2291 [18:47] <mariettagecko> Is that so?
#2292 [18:47] <mariettagecko> Never heard of that.
#2293 [18:47] <guest-0-73045> I mean here
#2294 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> guest-0-73045: it's a broken faux-vpn that's easy to set up, but, well, is broken, so don't use it.
#2295 [18:48] <guest-0-73045> k :p
#2296 [18:49] <TheNoodle> Dope, can a bot auto kick on the word hamanchi? :P
#2297 [18:49] <TheNoodle> or more specifically, 'use hamanchi'
#2298 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> TheNoodle: no, because it is often rightly prefixed by "don't "
#2299 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> or "never "
#2300 [18:50] <mariettagecko> hehehe
#2301 [18:50] <TheNoodle> Doesn't aubot have regex? :P
#2302 [18:50] <mariettagecko> Theoretically it could.
#2303 [18:54] <guest-0-73045> I found a server with people that is no laggin on the website you gaved me
#2304 [18:54] <guest-0-73045> thanks verry much :)
#2305 [18:54] <TheNoodle> You're welcome :)
#2306 [18:54] <mariettagecko> Just as long as it's not a Hamachi server(sic)
#2307 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> guest-0-73045: that'll be $8.
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#2309 [19:07] <Sergee237> Hello?
#2310 [19:07] <Sergee237> mib_21d8jo?
#2311 [19:07] <Sergee237> Heloooooooooooo?
#2312 [19:08] <Sergee237> LOLOLOLlo
#2313 [19:08] * Yellowchopsticks [Yellowchopsticks@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2314 [19:08] <Sergee237> They accidentally gave me owner.
#2315 [19:08] <Yellowchopsticks> i have a portal question
#2316 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> No they didn't.
#2317 [19:08] <Sergee237> +++ VoxelHead has given owner to *!Mibbit@CPE-121-214-194-52.lns6.fli.bigpond.net.au
#2318 [19:08] <Sergee237> That's me.
#2319 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> I have a complete answer.
#2320 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> Sergee237: Your IRC client doesn't understand channel modes. +q is not owner.
#2321 [19:09] <Yellowchopsticks> if i have 2 nether portals in the overworld with the same x and z, but different y, which one would the one in the nether connect to?
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#2323 [19:09] <Sergee237> Ermmm.
#2324 [19:09] <Sergee237> Didn't understand that. :P
#2325 [19:09] <DopeGhoti> Yellowchopsticks: I think the lower one, but I'm not certain.
#2326 [19:09] <mariettagecko> Yellowchopsticks: that one.
#2327 [19:09] <TheNoodle> Oh noe.
#2328 [19:09] <Sergee237> Why was there a red line?
#2329 [19:09] <Yellowchopsticks> im looking at the wiki but it doesnt really discuss that issue
#2330 [19:09] * TheNoodle waves at Sergee
#2330 [19:09] <Bryan> um, can anyone help with my minecraft?
#2331 [19:09] <Sergee237> Hi noodle.
#2332 [19:10] <Sergee237> I decided to dump my minecraft server.
#2333 [19:10] <Yellowchopsticks> i was hoping it could be used as a one way elevator...dunno if it would be up or down though
#2334 [19:10] <Sergee237> I can't put up with all the work.
#2335 [19:10] * TheNoodle shurgs
#2335 [19:10] <TheNoodle> shrugs even.
#2336 [19:10] <Sergee237> But on the other hand, my brother pulled the Server folder out of trash
#2337 [19:10] <Sergee237> and he is continuing it.
#2338 [19:10] <mariettagecko> Bryan: Nope, there's no-one here who can help with that game. I mean, why would people come to a channel called #minecrafthelp to help people?
#2339 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> Bryan: not with your minecraft, but we can help with Mojang's.
#2340 [19:11] <Bryan> no clue, maybe most people are busy? so i rather ask then intrude and start demanding.
#2341 [19:11] <Sergee237> Anyway, when I connect to anyone's server.
#2342 [19:11] <TheNoodle> I only help with my minecraft.
#2343 [19:11] <Sergee237> And use /warp
#2344 [19:11] <Sergee237> I Blackscreen.
#2345 [19:11] <mariettagecko> Bryan: Sorry, I'm feeling rather contrary. What's the issue?
#2346 [19:11] <mariettagecko> In case that's not obvious, that is.
#2347 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> "Asking is just polite demanding." -M. Headroom
#2348 [19:12] * Sergee237 waves bye to TheNoodle.
#2348 [19:12] <Bryan> well my minecraft won't load, i already deleted my java and re-installed the newest one but that didn't do anything.
#2349 [19:12] <Sergee237> You won't be seeing me on Mibbit again.
#2350 [19:12] <Sergee237> But you might with my brother.
#2351 [19:12] <Sergee237> He wanted to ask you something about server hosting.
#2352 [19:12] <Bryan> even if i try to play on the browser it won't load.
#2353 [19:12] <mariettagecko> Bryan: please explain.
#2354 [19:12] <mariettagecko> What do you mean, it won't load?
#2355 [19:12] <mariettagecko> does i give an error?
#2356 [19:12] <TheNoodle> Well Sergee237, get him to highlight me in #bowlofnoodles
#2357 [19:12] <TheNoodle> :P
#2358 [19:13] <Bryan> i mean it freezes. you can't type anything, nothing pops up
#2359 [19:13] <Sergee237> Ok.
#2360 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> Bryan win/reinst
#2361 [19:13] <VoxelHead> Bryan: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2362 [19:13] <Sergee237> I'll get him on this computer.
#2363 [19:13] <VoxelHead> Bryan: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2364 [19:13] <TheNoodle> it's normally just my testing channel, but I guess people could join....
#2365 [19:13] <Sergee237> My dad is using the laptop
#2366 [19:13] <Bryan> okay give me a second
#2367 [19:13] * mib_rob6jf [mib_rob6jf@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2368 [19:14] <Bryan> the problems continues.
#2369 [19:14] <mib_rob6jf> hi my name is austin81501
#2370 [19:15] <Bryan> would it help if i showed a image of the problem?
#2371 [19:15] <mariettagecko> sure
#2372 [19:15] <Yellowchopsticks> DopeGhoti, hmmm, im testing my question with portals right now, and it seems my nether portal links to the upper one in the overworld, but i dont know if its random, or because i built the upper one more recently, or whatever
#2373 [19:15] <Bryan> give me a few.
#2374 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> Yellowchopsticks: actually, that jogged my memory
#2375 [19:16] <mib_rob6jf> whenever i try to play it says upload pixel s
#2376 [19:16] <Yellowchopsticks> oh?
#2377 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> Yellowchopsticks: ISTR now a write-up about using the nether for a shortcut form a deep mine to the top of a tower
#2378 [19:16] <Yellowchopsticks> what's "ISTR"?
#2379 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> "I seem to recall"
#2380 [19:16] <Yellowchopsticks> ah
#2381 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> the upshot (heh) is that it would actually prefer to link to the /higher/ of the two portals real-world-side
#2382 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> so you can zip into the nether and back to go _up_, and just jump down into a wading pool to go _down_
#2383 [19:18] <Yellowchopsticks> hmmm, that could prove convenient
#2384 [19:19] <Yellowchopsticks> i could put a nice secret room way down deep in my base and have it lead back to a bedroom at the top of the world
#2385 [19:19] <Yellowchopsticks> except...i dont really like the portal sounds, oh the dilemma of aesthetics
#2386 [19:20] <mariettagecko> I don't mind the portal sounds.
#2387 [19:20] <mariettagecko> Although...
#2388 [19:20] * mib_0g45np [mib_0g45np@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2389 [19:20] <Yellowchopsticks> mariettagecko, i keep forgetting about them when i wander around my base, and all of a sudden i think it's something like cave noises :P
#2390 [19:20] <mariettagecko> I wonder if my main bedroom could be a nether portal room now
#2391 [19:21] <mib_0g45np> can some one help me?
#2392 [19:21] <Yellowchopsticks> unless a ghast comes through!
#2393 [19:21] <Yellowchopsticks> mariettagecko, i might wait for a working sky portal though
#2394 [19:21] <mariettagecko> I shall have to move some stuff around and try igniting it...
#2395 [19:21] <Yellowchopsticks> i wonder if you can connect the nether to the sky world and vice versa
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#2397 [19:22] <Yellowchopsticks> afk
#2398 [19:22] <mariettagecko> I would have to install the Aether mod to do that.
#2399 [19:22] <mariettagecko> Which would be cool, but I haven't got the RAM for it, I don't think.
#2400 [19:22] <mib_0g45np> chikens and cows dont spawn in my world
#2401 [19:23] <mariettagecko> mib_0g45np: not at all?
#2402 [19:23] <mariettagecko> how far have you gone to look around?
#2403 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> mariettagecko: 1.9pre has the skylands built in.
#2404 [19:24] <mariettagecko> no.
#2405 [19:24] <mariettagecko> dope...
#2406 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> mariettagecko: 2011-10-06 11:39:10 [INFO] Preparing start region for level 2
#2407 [19:24] <mib_0g45np> not at all im one of my worlds
#2408 [19:24] <mariettagecko> You have *GOT* to be kidding.
#2409 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> I am not kidding.
#2410 [19:24] <mariettagecko> ...
#2411 [19:24] <mib_0g45np> oo
#2412 [19:24] <mib_0g45np> *no*
#2413 [19:24] <mariettagecko> I seriously need to get more RAM for the server...
#2414 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> Interestingly, it doesn't actually write any of the .mcr files to disk.
#2415 [19:25] <mariettagecko> eh?
#2416 [19:25] <mariettagecko> how do you make aether portals?
#2417 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> No earthly ides.
#2418 [19:26] <mib_0g45np> light ston and water
#2419 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> idea even
#2420 [19:28] <Superduper123> Hello?
#2421 [19:28] <Superduper123> Can someone help me?
#2422 [19:28] <mib_0g45np> like the nether portals but no opsidin=light stone flint and steal=water buket
#2423 [19:28] <TheNoodle> Just ask your question Superduper123.
#2424 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> mariettagecko: the portal, probably: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q92TPOaqqA0
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#2426 [19:28] <mariettagecko> light stone?
#2427 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> it doesn't work yet.
#2428 [19:29] <mib_0g45np> ya light stone
#2429 [19:29] <Superduper123> I try to login to minecraft, it works, but I get stuck at the Mojang logo for a long time, then I blackscreen.
#2430 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> Superduper123: what OS is your computer running?
#2431 [19:29] <envidia> i am having trouble starting up my game in my minecraft, could someone help?
#2432 [19:29] <Superduper123> You will be annoyed by this, but Mac OS X.
#2433 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> envidia: what OS is your computer running?
#2434 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> Superduper123: what version of OS X?
#2435 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> 10.5.8?
#2436 [19:30] <envidia> what do you mean
#2437 [19:30] <Superduper123> 10.6.8
#2438 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> ??> Superduper123 mac/reinst/tool
#2439 [19:30] <VoxelHead> Superduper123: (mac/reinst/tool) Here is a helpful tool to purge the preinstalled files for you: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Minecraft_Reinstall.dmg
#2440 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> Superduper123: run that tool and see if it helps
#2441 [19:30] <Superduper123> Will it reinstall my mac?
#2442 [19:30] <envidia> do dope i dont understand lol
#2443 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> Superduper123: no, it'll make Minecraft reinstall its locally-installed files. It will not erase your saves
#2444 [19:31] <Superduper123> Ok.
#2445 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> ??> envidia OS
#2446 [19:31] <VoxelHead> envidia: (os) Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
#2447 [19:31] <Superduper123> Downloading.
#2448 [19:31] <envidia> ohhhh
#2449 [19:31] <envidia> windows 7
#2450 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> ??> envidia win/reinst
#2451 [19:31] <VoxelHead> envidia: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2452 [19:31] <VoxelHead> envidia: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2453 [19:32] <mib_0g45np> no chikens or cows spawn in one of my worlds
#2454 [19:32] <envidia> so do i have to delete the actual game of my comp before deleting the files?
#2455 [19:32] <Superduper123> What about pigs mib?
#2456 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> envidia: just the files you were directed to.
#2457 [19:32] <Superduper123> Then you'll be fine.
#2458 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> mib_0g45np: blame global warming.
#2459 [19:32] <mib_0g45np> i get pigs and sheep
#2460 [19:33] <mib_0g45np> dope lol
#2461 [19:33] <Superduper123> If you get pigs, you'll be fine.
#2462 [19:33] <Superduper123> it worked :D
#2463 [19:33] <mib_0g45np> but i need fethers
#2464 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> mib_0g45np: explore some more, you might not be in a bovine-friendly biome
#2465 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> Superduper123: glad to be of service. That'll be $8
#2466 [19:33] <Superduper123> Bye!
#2467 [19:33] <mib_0g45np> lol no
#2468 [19:33] <Superduper123> What!!??!
#2469 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> (:
#2470 [19:33] <Superduper123> Are you for real?
#2471 [19:33] <Superduper123> :(
#2472 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> No, I'm quite fake.
#2473 [19:33] <Superduper123> Yay!
#2474 [19:34] <Superduper123> :D
#2475 [19:34] <Superduper123> Lol
#2476 [19:34] <mib_0g45np> but how can i get fethers?
#2477 [19:34] <TheNoodle> lol
#2478 [19:34] * BlackBird [BlackBird@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2479 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> mib_0g45np: go for a walk, find a herd of chickens, and slay them mercilessly.
#2480 [19:34] <Superduper123> Again>
#2481 [19:34] <Superduper123> ?
#2482 [19:34] <Superduper123> Lol
#2483 [19:34] <mib_0g45np> i woud but NO CHIKENS!!
#2484 [19:35] <BlackBird> is notch ever actually in here? hes not answering my tweets, or emails over the past 2 months, and I can't think of any other way to contact him.
#2485 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> Almost never. For what are you trying to personally contact Notch?
#2486 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> If you want immediate results, ask Bethesda's lawyers?
#2487 [19:35] <mib_0g45np> to kill him my bet
#2488 [19:36] <BlackBird> heh no way! then where would Minecraft development go? I'd hate to kill him. No, I just lost my password.
#2489 [19:36] <BlackBird> it's been lost for over 2 months, and I've been emailing about it for just as long.
#2490 [19:36] <mib_0g45np> to heven
#2491 [19:36] <BlackBird> both to notch@mojang.com and support@mojang.com
#2492 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> ?? account
#2493 [19:36] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#2494 [19:36] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#2495 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> vox, please rehash
#2496 [19:37] * mib_wlb8hg [mib_wlb8hg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2497 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> 0ahem.
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#2499 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> vox, rehash please.
#2500 [19:37] <VoxelHead> k
#2501 [19:37] <BlackBird> I know that. I was just hoping to find another way to contact notch, or someone else who can help with account issues.
#2502 [19:37] <mib_0g45np> any one got a server?
#2503 [19:37] <Silent_Samurai> mib_0g45np, I'm sure many people do.
#2504 [19:38] <Silent_Samurai> Try #smp lol..
#2505 [19:38] <mib_0g45np> no der i mean some one on this chat
#2506 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> Probably.
#2507 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> but the rules preclude soliciting.
#2508 [19:38] <Silent_Samurai> <Silent_Samurai> Try #smp lol..
#2509 [19:38] <mib_0g45np> wats #smp
#2510 [19:39] <Silent_Samurai> Type /join #smp
#2511 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> It's another IRC channel.
#2512 [19:39] <Silent_Samurai> #minecrafthelp is for... Minecraft help... and #smp is for server advertising/requesting.
#2513 [19:39] <mib_0g45np> no one there
#2514 [19:40] <mib_0g45np> any one in this chat have a server?
#2515 [19:41] <mib_0g45np> NO I NOT GO SMP
#2516 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> mib_0g45np: once again, please avail yourself of the rules.
#2517 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 1
#2518 [19:41] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 1 = Rules: http://www.minecraftirc.net/rules/minecrafthelp ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti | Thu Sep 29 18:03:50 MST 2011 ]
#2519 [19:41] * VoxelHead eyes Dopeghoti
#2519 [19:41] <mib_0g45np> ok
#2520 [19:45] <mariettagecko> Ok, my DVD drive is being a real pain.
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#2522 [19:47] <Silent_Samurai> mib_0g45np, Of course nobody said anything, you didn't ask.
#2523 [19:48] <mariettagecko> It helps if you ask about what you want to know about.
#2524 [19:50] <mariettagecko> Right.
#2525 [19:50] <mariettagecko> so silence...
#2526 [19:50] * DopeGhoti has received the question telepsychotronically, and has send out the answer in a like manner.
#2526 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> s/send/sent/
#2527 [19:51] <mib_0g45np> so i went out far in my world do u have to turn on somthin
#2528 [19:51] <mariettagecko> awesome.
#2529 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> ?? dont/tweet
#2530 [19:51] <VoxelHead> dont/tweet: IRC has a very generous limit on the length of its messages. Please, for the sake of our sanity, use complete words, such as 'you', 'one', and 'are', and not 'u', '1', and 'r'.
#2531 [19:51] <mariettagecko> ...
#2532 [19:52] <mariettagecko> mib_0g45np: I'm sorry, but you seem to have some misspellings there.
#2533 [19:52] <VoxelHead> Mmmmmm.
#2534 [19:52] <mariettagecko> If you correct them, perhaps we can be of assistance.
#2535 [19:53] <mib_0g45np> I went out and no chikens.
#2536 [19:54] <mib_0g45np> Better?
#2537 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> Without a mod, there are no chikens in Minecraft. And we do not support mods.
#2538 [19:55] <mib_0g45np> rilly?!
#2539 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> in the quiet words of the alleged virgin Mary: "Come again?"
#2540 [19:57] <mib_0g45np> Good bye!
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#2542 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> Was it?
#2543 [19:57] <partyhat> I haven't played minecraft in a while and i can't log in. it says my password is wrong, it isn't, and it isn't sending me the password reset email; any idea what's going on?
#2544 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> ?? account
#2545 [19:57] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#2546 [19:57] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#2547 [19:57] <mib_0g45np> No so "bad bye" to you sir!
#2548 [19:59] <mariettagecko> mib_0g45np: it doesn't help that you have caught us at the end of our workdays.
#2549 [19:59] <VoxelHead> Ooh, I like that one.
#2550 [19:59] <mariettagecko> oh, darn.
#2551 [19:59] <mariettagecko> You left before I could type it.
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#2553 [20:00] <RobWhink> Anyone speaking?
#2554 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2555 [20:00] <mariettagecko> Nope.
#2556 [20:00] <RobWhink> lol
#2557 [20:00] <mariettagecko> No-one in here speaks.
#2558 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> All deaf-mutes in here
#2559 [20:00] <mariettagecko> Nobody here but us chikens
#2560 [20:00] <mariettagecko> ;-)
#2561 [20:00] <VoxelHead> =]
#2562 [20:01] <RobWhink> Hey grey, i had issues with my minecraft a few weeks back about when i open it a notepad document gets put onto my desktop with a load of gibberish writing?#
#2563 [20:01] <RobWhink> i spoke to you about it
#2564 [20:01] <RobWhink> and you solved the problem for me :)
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#2566 [20:02] <RobWhink> GreyVulpine
#2567 [20:02] <mariettagecko> I'm a lumberjack, and I'm ok.
#2568 [20:02] <mariettagecko> I sleep all night, and I work all day
#2569 [20:02] <mariettagecko> What, no comments?
#2570 [20:03] <mariettagecko> How rude!
#2571 [20:03] <RobWhink> Marietta would you know the solution to this problem then?
#2572 [20:03] <mariettagecko> Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with the issue.
#2573 [20:04] <mariettagecko> And at that, I'm also tired of being in this office, so I'm going home.
#2574 [20:04] <RobWhink> Okay, When i open minecraft and login , the loading screen appears and then shuts down and a notepad document gets put onto my desktop
#2575 [20:04] * guest-0-50290 [guest-0-50290@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2576 [20:04] <mariettagecko> yall have fun.
#2577 [20:04] <RobWhink> so when i open this, it just has a load of gibberish writing
#2578 [20:05] <daihak> whats the program I go to to rollback a driver again ?
#2579 [20:05] <DopeGhoti> plenty of us type though.
#2580 [20:05] <RobWhink> hey dope remember envidia before?
#2581 [20:05] <RobWhink> that didnt work for minecraft what you told me
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#2583 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> RobWhink: okay, refresh my memory: exactly what happens when you attempt to play Minecraft?
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#2585 [20:06] <RobWhink> Okay, when i open minecraft and i click login, the loading bar appears and then the whole minecraft window shuts down, A notepad document appears on my desktop with a load of gibberish writing
#2586 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> ?? pastebin
#2587 [20:07] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2588 [20:07] <sproing> when i try to load the game an error pops up telling me i dont have enough memory
#2589 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> please put that document on Pastebin
#2590 [20:07] <daihak> how do i rollback a driver
#2591 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> it might not be gibberish to us
#2592 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> daihak: that's a little afield of the scope of support for this channel.
#2593 [20:07] <daihak> how >
#2594 [20:08] <daihak> it wont play minecraft cause my driver is to updated
#2595 [20:08] <RobWhink> http://pastebin.com/z14989t8
#2596 [20:08] <daihak> theres a program in windows tha tallows drive rrollback i just frget the name
#2597 [20:09] <RobWhink> This same problem happened to my when i first purchased minecraft.
#2598 [20:09] <RobWhink> me*
#2599 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> RobWhink: you have a 64-bit OS and a 32-bit JRE. Uninstall Java, and install the 64-bit version.
#2600 [20:10] <RobWhink> Im not very good with computers? Could you tell me how to do this lol?
#2601 [20:11] <RobWhink> Install the java program that is on my computer yeah?
#2602 [20:12] <sproing> when i try to load the game an error pops up telling me i dont have enough memory and not enough java memory
#2603 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> RobWhink: first, uninstall what you have
#2604 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> then, go here:
#2605 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> RobWhink getjava
#2606 [20:12] <VoxelHead> RobWhink: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2607 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> RobWhink: and be sure to get the 64-bit version
#2608 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> sproing: how much RAM has your computer got?
#2609 [20:15] <RobWhink> Dope is that the correct version of Java to download when i click the link?
#2610 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> RobWhink: it should tell you what version it is presenting you with.
#2611 [20:17] <RobWhink> Recommended Version 6 Update 27 (filesize: ~ 11 MB) ?
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#2614 [20:19] <VajraX> Hi, I'm having problems with my multiplayer server...could someone help me sort them out?
#2615 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> RobWhink: http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/7/jre-7-windows-x64.exe
#2616 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> ??+ win/64bitjava|Because Oracle's dumb web site is dumb, here is where to get the 64-bit JRE for Windows: http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/7/jre-7-windows-x64.exe
#2617 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> VajraX: we'll need a few more details.
#2618 [20:21] <VajraX> Alright
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#2620 [20:21] <VajraX> For a while now, I've had my server running just fine.
#2621 [20:21] <VajraX> and tonight, I invited a friend to come visit it
#2622 [20:22] <VajraX> but he wasn't able to get on it, said something about it "connection timed out" for him
#2623 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> What is your server's address?
#2624 [20:22] <VajraX> so I tinkered around on it, and now I realized that *I* cannot connect to it
#2625 [20:22] <VajraX> 71.201.182.231
#2626 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> !check 71.201.182.231
#2627 [20:22] <VajraX> it told me "can't reach server" or something like that
#2628 [20:23] <zucchini> I just bought minecraft and was about to download it to me computer. I click on the link and the hit run but then it say mincraft.exe may be moved or deleted. Then it dose not download any help?
#2629 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> zucchini - Running any antivirus software?
#2630 [20:24] <zucchini> Yes I tried turning firewall off
#2631 [20:24] <VoxelHead> Toodle-oo.
#2632 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Not just the firewall. Try turning the AV software off
#2633 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> There's some antivirus software out there that report a false positive for minecraft
#2634 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> VajraX: double-check that the server is running? AuBot reports that there is an open port there, but it is not answering as a Minecraft server should.
#2635 [20:24] <VajraX> it's up
#2636 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> !check 71.201.182.231
#2637 [20:24] <zucchini> thanks guys I will go try
#2638 [20:24] <VajraX> turst me, it's up
#2639 [20:25] <VajraX> I can even screenshot it, if you'd like
#2640 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> do you see anything on the server log when AuBot checkes it?
#2641 [20:25] <VajraX> i do not.
#2642 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> then the network connection is not reaching the server
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#2644 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> VajraX - You did not fill out server-ip in server.properties, correct?
#2645 [20:25] <VajraX> I didn't, no
#2646 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> is the server directly on the internet, or is it behind some form of IP Masquerding?
#2647 [20:26] <VajraX> I'm not sure about that part, I did have to forward my port, if that's what you mean...
#2648 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> that'd be a "Yes", yes.
#2649 [20:26] <leaper> Can some1 hlp me i bought minecraft 5 days ago but it says im not premuim
#2650 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> What is the server's interlan IP address?
#2651 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> internal even
#2652 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> leaper account
#2653 [20:26] <VoxelHead> leaper: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#2654 [20:26] <VajraX> Um, how do I check that? It's been a while
#2655 [20:26] <VoxelHead> leaper: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#2656 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> VajraX: what OS is the server running?
#2657 [20:27] <VajraX> Um, on a Vista
#2658 [20:27] <VajraX> or is that not what you meant/
#2659 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> okay, on that machine, run this command: `ipconfig -all`
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#2662 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> either pastebin the output or tell me the IPv4 Address
#2663 [20:28] <RobWhink> Dope it said Java has succesfully installed
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#2665 [20:28] <VajraX> 192.168.1.137
#2666 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> VajraX: good. Make a note of that address
#2667 [20:28] <VajraX> alright
#2668 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> VajraX: now log into your router and make sure that's the LAN IP that the Minecraft port is being forwarded to
#2669 [20:29] * VajraX has an idea of what happened.
#2669 [20:29] <VajraX> AH HA
#2670 [20:29] <VajraX> That's the problem!
#2671 [20:29] <VajraX> I think
#2672 [20:29] <VajraX> see, our router messed up recently
#2673 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> Then, think about making a MAC Address DHCP reservation so that this doesn't happen again
#2674 [20:29] <RobWhink> Dope bro could you help me, i've just recently payed for this game and it isnt working for me :@
#2675 [20:29] <VajraX> so it must've wiped the port fowarding portion
#2676 [20:30] <Zavyx> When I go into the minecraft launcher to download it, I login yet it says "Login Failed" (Not Downloaded) ?
#2677 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> That'll be $8.
#2678 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Zavyx - Has it worked before?
#2679 [20:30] <Zavyx> Yes
#2680 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Zavyx - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#2681 [20:30] <Zavyx> I have
#2682 [20:30] <VajraX> although
#2683 [20:30] <Zavyx> Several times
#2684 [20:31] <VajraX> do I use Single Port Forwarding, or Port Ranges?
#2685 [20:31] * VajraX forgets
#2685 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Zavyx - Are you able to log into the website with that username/password?
#2686 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> VajraX - either is fine, as long as you port forward 25565/TCP
#2687 [20:31] <Zavyx> Yep
#2688 [20:31] <VajraX> alright
#2689 [20:31] <RobWhink> Grey
#2690 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Zavyx - Are you sure you redownloaded and launched the new launcher from minecraft.net/download?
#2691 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Zavyx - If so, try changing your password using minecraft.net's profile page
#2692 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> RobWhink - Yes?
#2693 [20:32] <Zavyx> GreyVulpine - Yes, I deleted my .minecraft folder, got the launcher, but it fails
#2694 [20:32] <VajraX> DopeGhoti: It works! Thanks for your help!
#2695 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> That'll be $8.
#2696 [20:32] <Zavyx> GreyVulpine - I'll try that
#2697 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> (:
#2698 [20:32] <VajraX> lolk
#2699 [20:32] <VajraX> I'll pay you $500...in Ender Pearls!
#2700 [20:32] <RobWhink> Dope, what do after i downloaded the Java?
#2701 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> RobWhink: install it.
#2702 [20:33] <RobWhink> it said successfully installed
#2703 [20:33] <VajraX> anyway, that's all I needed, so I'm out. Thanks again!
#2704 [20:33] <RobWhink> so i try and load minecraft again > doesnt work.
#2705 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> ??> RobWhink win/profile
#2706 [20:33] <VoxelHead> RobWhink: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2707 [20:33] <VoxelHead> RobWhink: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2708 [20:34] <Zavyx> GreyVulpine - It worked, thank you very much
#2709 [20:34] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2709 [20:34] <Zavyx> GreyVulpine - Good day, kind sir.
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#2711 [20:37] <Guest7792> I just bought minecraft. i go to download and at the bottom it says run or save. I have tried both but every time a message appears minecraft.exe may be moved or deleted. any help?
#2712 [20:38] <leaper> idk sorry
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#2716 [20:56] <mib_z4eikw> i bought the game and downloaded it but how do i play it?
#2717 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Run the launcher?
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#2719 [20:57] <mib_z4eikw> huh?
#2720 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Launcher's available at minecraft.net/download
#2721 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> the thing you downloaded? Run it.
#2722 [20:58] <mib_z4eikw> i don't know where it is
#2723 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> ..we're not telepaths. It'll be wherever everything else you download from your browser goes.
#2724 [21:00] <frogaincia> I have just purchased the game minecraft. I played it in the browser for a little but then i tried to downlowd it to my computer. I have windows seven the newest internet exploer and mc affee. I click run program but then a message minecraft.exe might be moved or deleted. It did not download please help
#2725 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> Some virus scanners are reporting a false positive with Minecraft.
#2726 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> mcafee's been known to isolate and quarantine minecraft because it thinks it's a virus
#2727 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> disable it and downlaod it again.
#2728 [21:00] <frogaincia> how do i do that?
#2729 [21:00] <mib_z4eikw> i've got windows so i'm not using the browser
#2730 [21:01] <frogaincia> i already disabled firewall?
#2731 [21:01] <asa> im no computer wiz im trying to download for my son. its not going onto a download file like stuff usually does. my computer keeps calling out a virus each time i try to open & run minecraft????
#2732 [21:01] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: Firewall, Antivirus program.
#2733 [21:01] <DopeGhoti> asa: Some virus scanners are reporting a false positive with Minecraft.
#2734 [21:01] <Ryladine|AFK> frogaincia: Mcafee has real time protection that can interfere as well
#2735 [21:01] <asa> i do have windows 7 and mc affee also
#2736 [21:02] <Ryladine|AFK> frogaincia: It's like an active scanner that reads and quarantines everything you touch that mcafee reads as having a virus
#2737 [21:03] <mib_z4eikw> can someone please help me.
#2738 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> vox, give mib_z4eikw some help
#2739 [21:04] <VoxelHead> *gives mib_z4eikw some help*
#2740 [21:04] <mib_z4eikw> is anyone there?
#2741 [21:04] <Ryladine> Yes. But some of us might be bots.
#2742 [21:05] <VoxelHead> or not.
#2743 [21:05] <Ryladine> We however are not phsycics.
#2744 [21:05] <Ryladine> State your problem, and someone will be with you.
#2745 [21:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Is minecraft down or what? I get a black screen in browser and "Login failed" In client.
#2746 [21:05] <Ryladine> !isdown
#2747 [21:05] <GreyBot> Ryladine: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2748 [21:05] <CrusaderDeleters> erm
#2749 [21:05] <CrusaderDeleters> soemthing within minecraft
#2750 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> CrusaderDeleters - Login failed can mean one of two things, either you're still using the old launcher from pre-1.8, or your username/password is wrong
#2751 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Try redownloading the launcher from minecraft.net/download, and change your password
#2752 [21:06] <Ryladine> Ooo He finally made the old launcher not work?
#2753 [21:06] <GreyVulpine> Where have you been...
#2754 [21:06] <Ryladine> lol
#2755 [21:06] <CrusaderDeleters> I have the post-1.8, and it automatically keeps track of the pw
#2756 [21:06] <CrusaderDeleters> (I want the old client! D:)
#2757 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Then manually retype it, or change your password using the profile page at minecraft.net
#2758 [21:07] <CrusaderDeleters> and I got a new client
#2759 [21:07] <mib_z4eikw> ok, i bought minecraft and downloaded it but i can't find it on my computer
#2760 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> mib_z4eikw: ..we're not telepaths. It'll be wherever everything else you download from your browser goes.
#2761 [21:07] <CrusaderDeleters> cant be me, grey, because it just aint connecting. (I dont want a new password D:)
#2762 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_z4eikw - Configure your browser to ask where you want to download files to
#2763 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> CrusaderDeleters: so reset your password with the reset tool, then change it to what you want it to be?
#2764 [21:08] <mib_z4eikw> i don't know how to do that
#2765 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> Rocket science, this ain't.
#2766 [21:08] <CrusaderDeleters> QQ dope, can you change it to and from the same password?
#2767 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> CrusaderDeleters - Yes
#2768 [21:08] <CrusaderDeleters> good
#2769 [21:08] <VoxelHead> Goooooood.
#2770 [21:08] <CrusaderDeleters> then I shall try it!
#2771 [21:08] <CrusaderDeleters> XD that bot is wierd
#2772 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_z4eikw - What browser do you use?
#2773 [21:09] <CrusaderDeleters> !!
#2774 [21:09] <VoxelHead> Sacrebleu!
#2775 [21:09] <CrusaderDeleters> :D
#2776 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Mon dieu!
#2777 [21:09] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2778 [21:09] <CrusaderDeleters> what does that mean in english?
#2779 [21:09] <mib_z4eikw> i dont know what the browser is
#2780 [21:09] <CrusaderDeleters> internet explorer?
#2781 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Oi..
#2782 [21:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Firefox?
#2783 [21:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Ugh, I dislike computer-unsavvey people, but you just gotta deal. And I do.
#2784 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> it's the thing you use to look at, or "browse", web sites.
#2785 [21:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Mib, look to the top of the screen, what does it say?
#2786 [21:11] <mib_z4eikw> crusaderdeleters? are you talking to me?
#2787 [21:11] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah
#2788 [21:11] <CrusaderDeleters> you are mib, arent you?
#2789 [21:11] <mib_z4eikw> oh. acer
#2790 [21:11] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#2790 [21:11] <CrusaderDeleters> wth
#2791 [21:11] <CrusaderDeleters> D:
#2792 [21:11] <CrusaderDeleters> My password was stolen from me
#2793 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> CrusaderDeleters: that's not very nice.
#2794 [21:12] <CrusaderDeleters> I know. Someone changed the password
#2795 [21:12] <CrusaderDeleters> I musta tried the same exact correct thing over and over and over again
#2796 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> mib_z4eikw - In your browser, what does it say in the upper left corner?
#2797 [21:12] <mib_z4eikw> acer
#2798 [21:13] <Ryladine> lol.
#2799 [21:13] <CrusaderDeleters> acer? never heard of that browser
#2800 [21:13] <CrusaderDeleters> I am in panic!!
#2801 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> oh, right
#2802 [21:13] <CrusaderDeleters> omgwthomgwthomgwth
#2803 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> Acer "helpfully" rebrands IE
#2804 [21:13] <CrusaderDeleters> What do I do? How do I fix this? D:
#2805 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> so it says "Acer - Internet Explorer - <TITLE />"
#2806 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> ??> CrusaderDeleters account
#2807 [21:13] <VoxelHead> CrusaderDeleters: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#2808 [21:13] <VoxelHead> CrusaderDeleters: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#2809 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> CrusaderDeleters: reset your password, and this time, don't use the same one President Skroob did on his luggage
#2810 [21:14] <mib_z4eikw> can you give me an example of a name of browser
#2811 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> 1234?
#2812 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> 5.
#2813 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Heh, haven't seen that movie in a long time
#2814 [21:14] <Ryladine> mib: Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox, Opera, Google Chrome, Safari, Flock
#2815 [21:15] <CrusaderDeleters> ...
#2816 [21:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Reciept ID?
#2817 [21:15] <CrusaderDeleters> I never got one
#2818 [21:15] <mib_z4eikw> oh. internet explorer
#2819 [21:15] <Ryladine> lol
#2820 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> Called it.
#2821 [21:15] <asa> THANKS.... i think that turning off mc affee helped it get thru & into my downloads. its now on my sons dekstop! hope it plays, cheers 8-)
#2822 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_z4eikw win/ie
#2823 [21:16] <VoxelHead> mib_z4eikw: (win/ie) Internet Exploder^WExploiter^WExplorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#2824 [21:16] <VoxelHead> mib_z4eikw: (win/ie) Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome
#2825 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> CrusaderDeleters - http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#2826 [21:16] <CrusaderDeleters> thx
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#2829 [21:18] <mib_z4eikw> the thing under the back button, google
#2830 [21:20] <mib_z4eikw> i dont know what to do
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#2832 [21:21] <mib_z4eikw> anyone here?
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#2836 [21:35] <mib_ajc68j> it says im not premium what does tht mean
#2837 [21:35] <TheNoodle> Account name?
#2838 [21:36] <mib_ajc68j> when i try to log in it does tht
#2839 [21:36] <TheNoodle> I need the name of the account you use to log into minecraft with.
#2840 [21:36] <mib_ajc68j> noah142
#2841 [21:36] <TheNoodle> !paid noah142
#2842 [21:36] <TheNoodle> Have you bought minecraft?
#2843 [21:37] <mib_ajc68j> no i downloaded it for free i dont have any money but i love the game
#2844 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft beta is not free. If you want to play it, you'll need to purchase an account
#2845 [21:39] <mib_ajc68j> dangit can some one buy it for me
#2846 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> No.
#2847 [21:39] <TheNoodle> ...
#2848 [21:39] <mib_ajc68j> y
#2849 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> If you like it so much, you buy it.
#2850 [21:39] <mib_ajc68j> but i dont have money
#2851 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> I want a porsche 911, but I don't have money, does that give me the right to steal one?
#2852 [21:40] <|Kiikun|> then you should be doing something to get money :P i would think starving to deth over a game isnt on your list of things to do.
#2853 [21:40] <mib_ajc68j> duh but i need it
#2854 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> No, You want it.
#2855 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> You don't need minecraft to survive.
#2856 [21:41] <TheNoodle> Fine, mib_ajc68j, I'll buy it for you.
#2857 [21:41] <mib_ajc68j> are u serious
#2858 [21:41] <TheNoodle> NO.
#2859 [21:41] <TheNoodle> didn't mean to caps :p
#2860 [21:41] <mib_ajc68j> y
#2861 [21:42] * TheNoodle requests a kick :P
#2861 [21:42] <|Kiikun|> mib_ajc68j: because heearned the money through blood swet and tears and deserves to spend it on himself :P
#2862 [21:42] <TheNoodle> Yeah, like more minecraft accounts! muhahaha
#2863 [21:42] * |Kiikun| wants to see him do something mroe than jus beg before kicking :D
#2863 [21:42] <VoxelHead> what is the meaning of this$!#~~^##!@^
#2864 [21:43] * GreyVulpine kicks VoxelHead
#2864 [21:43] <VoxelHead> arrgh my arm! now i only have 41 left
#2865 [21:43] <VoxelHead> look, here in this box
#2866 [21:43] <oldtopman> XD
#2867 [21:43] * |Kiikun| looks in vox's box.. and hears someone screaming for help
#2867 [21:43] * VoxelHead stares at |kiikun|
#2867 [21:43] <|Kiikun|> o__O
#2868 [21:44] * mib_qy92o6 [mib_qy92o6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2869 [21:44] * oldtopman wonders who turned bmotion back on
#2869 [21:45] <TheNoodle> So mib_ajc68j, what will you do for a copy of minecraft?
#2870 [21:45] <mib_ajc68j> i would flip
#2871 [21:46] <mib_ajc68j> are u gonna get me one
#2872 [21:47] <TheNoodle> Sure, but you have to convince me that you really want it.
#2873 [21:48] <mib_ajc68j> i do i have to go to my grandmas and play it cuz i dont have it here i really want it plzzzzzzzzz
#2874 [21:49] <|Kiikun|> mib_ajc68j: how do you play it at yuor grandma's?
#2875 [21:49] <mib_ajc68j> my uncle
#2876 [21:50] <|Kiikun|> mib_ajc68j: you could try askign them to buy you a gift code :3
#2877 [21:50] <mib_ajc68j> no the noodle said he will get me a copy
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#2880 [21:53] <mib_ajc68j> noodle u there
#2881 [21:53] <TheNoodle> Nope.
#2882 [21:53] <mib_ajc68j> did u get it
#2883 [21:55] <TheNoodle> Gift code: t9b4-l2x3-o7i6
#2884 [21:55] <mib_ajc68j> what do i do with it
#2885 [21:55] <Ryladine> Lol
#2886 [21:56] <Ryladine> Get minecraft with it
#2887 [21:56] <TheNoodle> http://www.minecraft.net/user/redeem
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#2890 [21:57] <mib_ajc68j> it says its already used
#2891 [21:58] <TheNoodle> Awww, someone in the channel must have taken it.
#2892 [21:59] <|Kiikun|> !paid AuBot
#2893 [21:59] <|Kiikun|> XD
#2894 [22:01] <|Kiikun|> ??< dont/beg
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#2898 [22:18] <TEXSupport> anyone there?
#2899 [22:18] * TheNoodle waves
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#2900 [22:19] <VoxelHead> where'd my moose go?
#2901 [22:19] <TheNoodle> I ate it vox.
#2902 [22:19] <TEXSupport> I am having trouble with the rain sounds in 1.9 pre 3
#2903 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> We offer no support for buggy pre-releases here.
#2904 [22:19] <TheNoodle> Please read the channel topic, if your client does not show it use /topic #minecrafthelp
#2905 [22:20] <TEXSupport> 1.8.1?
#2906 [22:20] <TEXSupport> the problem occours on both 1.8.1 and the pre release
#2907 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#2908 [22:25] <TEXSupport> an entire are is devoid of thr sound for rain
#2909 [22:25] <TheNoodle> Only that one area?
#2910 [22:25] * |Kiikun| wonders if tex is playing multiplayer
#2910 [22:26] <TEXSupport> single
#2911 [22:26] <|Kiikun|> ok, rules out the false-rain thing
#2912 [22:26] <TheNoodle> Is the rain white in that area?
#2913 [22:26] <TEXSupport> an are of about 10 or 15 chunks has no rain sound effects
#2914 [22:26] <TheNoodle> One day, that will actually be the problem.
#2915 [22:26] <TEXSupport> I think its blue
#2916 [22:27] <|Kiikun|> so long as it isnt green rain :D that means the Matrix is taking over your world.
#2917 [22:28] * dangeroussalad [dangeroussalad@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2918 [22:28] <dangeroussalad> hi sorry to bother i have a ?
#2919 [22:28] <TheNoodle> ?? ask
#2920 [22:28] <TEXSupport> its a medium sized continent with a mountain the rain sounds come back after a head out over water a bit
#2921 [22:28] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2922 [22:28] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2923 [22:29] <dangeroussalad> lol well, ok so im going to buy minecraft (please dont kill me for not owning it already xD) but im not sure if my computer can run it well, on classic singleplayer i get like 40-60 fps which is pretty smooth for me with the fog at like...um i think the second to last one. will the full game run well or not? just wonderin
#2924 [22:30] <|Kiikun|> TEXSupport: this continues even after closing and reopening minecraft?
#2925 [22:30] <TEXSupport> yes
#2926 [22:30] <CrusaderDeleters> "(please dont kill me for not owning it already xD)" theres PLENTY of people who dont have it yet
#2927 [22:30] <CrusaderDeleters> it's alright If you dont have it
#2928 [22:30] <dangeroussalad> yeah ik but im just sayin :P
#2929 [22:30] <|Kiikun|> ??> dangeroussalad requirements
#2930 [22:30] <VoxelHead> dangeroussalad: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#2931 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> dangeroussalad: its better if you have a DEDICATED video card... preferable nvidia or ati.
#2932 [22:31] <dangeroussalad> ...i kinda have no clue what that is.
#2933 [22:31] <dangeroussalad> xD
#2934 [22:31] <|Kiikun|> dangeroussalad: on windows?
#2935 [22:32] <dangeroussalad> uhh this PC is an ibm sooo...im pretty sure its windows tho
#2936 [22:32] <Wug> ??> dangeroussalad demo
#2937 [22:32] <dangeroussalad> im not good with computery stuff so im going to sound quite clueless
#2938 [22:32] <VoxelHead> dangeroussalad: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#2939 [22:32] <VoxelHead> dangeroussalad: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#2940 [22:32] <Wug> try that
#2941 [22:32] <dangeroussalad> ok
#2942 [22:32] <|Kiikun|> we can take a peek at your dxdiag and tell you if its good. since classic already runs at a good framerate its probably youll be fine
#2943 [22:32] <Wug> if it runs the demo it will probably run the current version
#2944 [22:32] <|Kiikun|> or listen to wug :P he has the @. im just a lowly + :P
#2945 [22:33] <Wug> BECK TO WORK SLAVE
#2946 [22:33] <TEXSupport> The game used to play the rain sounds all the time. It just suddenly stopped for my main area.
#2947 [22:33] * Wug cracks plasmawhip
#2947 [22:34] <|Kiikun|> yes mashter! *continues digging sand with trowel*
#2948 [22:36] <Wug> TEXSupport: desert biomes dont rain
#2949 [22:36] <TEXSupport> The way it acts is like there is a roof 20 blocks above me which disappears after I get over water
#2950 [22:36] <TEXSupport> I am in a mountain/almost no tree biome
#2951 [22:36] <TEXSupport> teh dessert across tho ocean hand chunk failure though
#2952 [22:37] <TEXSupport> I copied my save and did a fresh install of 1.8.1
#2953 [22:37] <TEXSupport> the problem persists
#2954 [22:38] <Wug> can you upload the save
#2955 [22:38] <TEXSupport> I could try it again just to make sure I didn't mix up versons
#2956 [22:38] <TEXSupport> to where?
#2957 [22:38] <Wug> you can force update which immediately updates to the current released version
#2958 [22:38] <Wug> mediafire.com or something like it
#2959 [22:39] <TEXSupport> ok let me force update and then see what happens
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#2961 [22:42] <TEXSupport> ok that fixed it
#2962 [22:42] <TEXSupport> must have put a pre release in somehow with all the file swaping
#2963 [22:43] <TEXSupport> what should I do about the sound bug in the pre-releases?
#2964 [22:44] <TheNoodle> Nothing.
#2965 [22:44] <TheNoodle> Wait for the official release.
#2966 [22:44] <TEXSupport> is there a way I can report it?
#2967 [22:45] <|Kiikun|> ?? bugreport
#2968 [22:45] <VoxelHead> bugreport: To submit a bug report, first check for duplicates, and then submit your report at http://www.getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#2969 [22:45] <TEXSupport> thankyou
#2970 [22:45] <|Kiikun|> or the forum post for 1.9 bugs
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#2972 [22:53] <gd> Hey wondering where to get some basic setup help for minecraft
#2973 [22:53] * mr_boo [mr_boo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2974 [22:55] <TheNoodle> Here!
#2975 [22:55] <gd> cool
#2976 [22:58] <gd> my two son's have bought the beta version and they would like to play multiplayer together can you point me in the right direction on how to setup this for them. Can we use one of your servers instead of setting up our own server?
#2977 [22:59] * BenMcLean [BenMcLean@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2978 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> There is no central, official server for minecraft. All servers are run independently by individuals.
#2979 [22:59] <BenMcLean> Hey I have a technical problem I think
#2980 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> if you want to run your own server, the server binary for minecraft is available at minecraft.net/download
#2981 [22:59] <BenMcLean> When I try to play single player in creative mode and I build a Nether portal and go through, Minecraft hangs at "Simulating the world for a bit"
#2982 [23:00] <Wug> creative mode doesnt have portals
#2983 [23:00] <Wug> you probably mean beta
#2984 [23:00] <TheNoodle> Creative mode in beta wug.
#2985 [23:00] <Wug> have you tried force updating? do you have any mods?
#2986 [23:00] <BenMcLean> 1.8 Beta has a Creative mode now.
#2987 [23:00] <BenMcLean> no mods
#2988 [23:01] <Wug> oh derp
#2989 [23:02] <BenMcLean> also, try listening to "Jabberwocky" by Oliver Wakeman while playing minecraft, it's trippy
#2990 [23:02] <BenMcLean> Cline Nolan & Oliver Wakeman
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#2992 [23:02] <BenMcLean> anyway about my crashing hanging issue?
#2993 [23:02] <BenMcLean> oh BTW do I have to pay extra to get android MC ?
#2994 [23:03] <BenMcLean> i'm alpha supporter
#2995 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Probably
#2996 [23:03] <BenMcLean> anyway lol i need to stick to the one question at a freakin time
#2997 [23:03] <BenMcLean> basically minecraft freezes, says "Not Responding" and takes up all the CPU and never finishes
#2998 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> BenMcLean - Wug had some suggestions
#2999 [23:03] <BenMcLean> I know my computer sucks, but seems like still that shouldn't happen
#3000 [23:04] <BenMcLean> Yes I force updated
#3001 [23:04] <BenMcLean> sry, should have responded to that
#3002 [23:04] <BenMcLean> was adding mods a suggestion ?
#3003 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried a different world?
#3004 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps that particular world was corrupt somehow
#3005 [23:04] <BenMcLean> I created world, made portal, had crash, so created new world, same result
#3006 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Running 1.8.1?
#3007 [23:05] <BenMcLean> well it's not technically a crash, it's a freeze
#3008 [23:05] <VoxelHead> The best kind of a
#3009 [23:05] <BenMcLean> Grey Vulpine, I said I force updated
#3010 [23:05] <BenMcLean> i would assume that means I'm running 1.8.1 right?
#3011 [23:05] <Wug> have you tried creating a new world
#3012 [23:05] <Wug> or does this happen in all worlds
#3013 [23:05] <BenMcLean> I can go into the nether on other people's multiplayer worlds, just not in my single player world
#3014 [23:06] <BenMcLean> tried creating new world yes.
#3015 [23:06] <Wug> what version of java do you have
#3016 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> The question we're trying to ascertain, is whether this happens on more than one SP world
#3017 [23:06] <BenMcLean> Yes
#3018 [23:07] <BenMcLean> the world is brand spanking new, and the portal creating is the first thing i do
#3019 [23:07] <BenMcLean> dont even chop down any trees or junk
#3020 [23:07] <Wug> what version of java do you have
#3021 [23:10] <BenMcLean> latest. already tried updating it before I came in channel.
#3022 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> Latest is?
#3023 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> (We ask because Java 6 and java 7 are out, but java 7 has known issues with minecraft)
#3024 [23:12] <BenMcLean> what oh crap
#3025 [23:12] <BenMcLean> should i downgrade java?
#3026 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> Are you running java 7?
#3027 [23:13] <Wug> yep
#3028 [23:13] <BenMcLean> minecraft is like 99% of what I use java for
#3029 [23:13] <Wug> :j
#3030 [23:13] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
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#3032 [23:14] <Ryladine> Hey Hey! I have a machine with 256 RAM can it run MC?
#3033 [23:14] <Ryladine> jk XD
#3034 [23:14] <Wug> maybe
#3035 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> ^
#3036 [23:14] <BenMcLean> well my machine is pretty crappy but I have more than that much ram
#3037 [23:14] <Wug> :mclol > Ryladine
#3038 [23:14] <WugBot> Ryladine: (mclol) http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/mclol.png
#3039 [23:15] <Ryladine> lol
#3040 [23:15] <Ryladine> I'm not depraved enough to try that
#3041 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> That's why we have Wug
#3042 [23:15] <Ryladine> I'm just going to run a garrysmod server off it :)
#3043 [23:16] * Wug laughs creepily and rocks back and forth
#3043 [23:16] <Ryladine> lol
#3044 [23:16] <BenMcLean> asfdjlkafsdlk;jafsjkl;asfdjkl;sfajkl;asfdjkl;
#3045 [23:16] <Ryladine> uhh?
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#3047 [23:17] <Wug> BenMcLean: what version of java do you have? Tell us the NUMBER
#3048 [23:17] <Planck> Hmm, from the topic I guess I can't expect help with a 1.9pre3 worldgen crash?
#3049 [23:17] <BenMcLean> Now I have java 6 update 27 from WugBot's link
#3050 [23:17] <Wug> Planck: nope
#3051 [23:17] <TheNoodle> Planck, nope.
#3052 [23:17] <Planck> Okay :)
#3053 [23:17] <TheNoodle> But thanks for reading the topic :)
#3054 [23:18] <Wug> BenMcLean: uninstall any other versions you may have
#3055 [23:18] <Planck> I'll wait until 1.9 is officially out then.
#3056 [23:18] * GreyVulpine adds to the counter of people who actually read the topic... We're up to 2!
#3056 [23:18] <|Kiikun|> lol
#3057 [23:18] <|Kiikun|> in 2 years grey? :P
#3058 [23:19] <Omanicino> My computer is having troble running minecraft classic, any advice?
#3059 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> Pfft.
#3060 [23:19] <Wug> ??> Omanicino dx
#3061 [23:19] <VoxelHead> Omanicino: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3062 [23:19] <VoxelHead> Omanicino: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3063 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> I've only been here a year.
#3064 [23:20] <Wug> I've been here since like march
#3065 [23:20] <BenMcLean> one thing I'm interested in is trying to design the optimum Minecraft transport system
#3066 [23:20] <BenMcLean> or perhaps not transport system
#3067 [23:20] <BenMcLean> railroad
#3068 [23:20] <BenMcLean> pretty much
#3069 [23:21] <Wug> use complete sentences
#3070 [23:21] * guest-0-89975 [guest-0-89975@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3071 [23:21] <BenMcLean> sorry
#3072 [23:22] <BenMcLean> anyway it really sucks not being able to go into the nether on my own computer
#3073 [23:23] <BenMcLean> I was thinking of making two nether portals right next to each other (literally touching) and then making a railroad between them in the normal world as the beginning of a big city
#3074 [23:26] <guest-0-89975> I'm really rusty on IRC so please forgive me if I mess this up, I'm running 1.8.1 and my ovens have suddenly turned into voids. Is this a known issue?
#3075 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> voids?
#3076 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> Can you give us a screenshot or something?
#3077 [23:26] <guest-0-89975> If I walk away while they are cooking anything ine them disappears.
#3078 [23:27] <BenMcLean> hmm that sucks
#3079 [23:27] <Omanicino> http://pastebin.com/QMnZQQZt
#3080 [23:27] <BenMcLean> I'm guessing notch has made his nether simulating code really really inefficient
#3081 [23:27] <BenMcLean> i mean that would explain this huge lag
#3082 [23:27] <BenMcLean> or freeze or whatever you want to call it
#3083 [23:27] <BenMcLean> it just sits there and spins CPU cycles indefinitely
#3084 [23:27] <guest-0-89975> I've restarted the program and rebooted the computer.
#3085 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-89975 - Seems like a bug that's been reported as of late.
#3086 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-89975 - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Furnace --> see bugs
#3087 [23:28] <guest-0-89975> Thank you
#3088 [23:30] <|Kiikun|> O_O
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#3090 [23:30] <|Kiikun|> ok.. gladi keep my wall-o-fire fulyl fed with coal
#3091 [23:35] * mib_24q4kq [mib_24q4kq@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3092 [23:36] <mib_24q4kq> hey i just bought minecraft beta online with my credit card , and it said thank you and everything but....no game? so what do i do? isnt there supposed to be a game download....also i saw at the web home page to download minecraft so a didnt but when i try to log in it says, no prenium...
#3093 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Transactions have been known to take several hours to clear. Just be patient.
#3094 [23:37] <TheNoodle> Username?
#3095 [23:38] <TheNoodle> And did you recieve a confirmation email?
#3096 [23:38] <_BiG_PiE_> no confirmation email yet...
#3097 [23:39] <BenMcLean> ok well obviously nobody here has any idea thanks anyway. :)
#3098 [23:39] <_BiG_PiE_> alright thx anyways..i guess ill just wait
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#3100 [23:43] <DawntheFawn> I need help with downloading the new update
#3101 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
#3102 [23:44] <DawntheFawn> When i click the update button, it goes far enough to the downloading packets then just stops
#3103 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Operating system?
#3104 [23:45] <DawntheFawn> Windows Vista 64 bit
#3105 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Try doing a reinstall with these instructions:
#3106 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> ??> DawntheFawn win/reinst
#3107 [23:46] <VoxelHead> DawntheFawn: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3108 [23:46] <VoxelHead> DawntheFawn: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3109 [23:47] <DawntheFawn> okay thank you I'll try it thank you again
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#3111 [23:53] <dleco11> Hey I need some help with a bit of information about Minecraft before I buy it for my son
#3112 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#3113 [23:54] <dleco11> Is it an online and an offline game?
#3114 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes. It offers a single player and multiplayer option
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#3116 [23:59] <dleco> sorry internet dropped out
#3117 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> <@GreyVulpine> Yes. It offers a single player and multiplayer option