#1 [00:00] <dleco> Does that mean he does not need to be connected while playing the single mode?
#2 [00:00] <TheNoodle> Correct, you'll need to connect once to download the game but after that you're set.
#3 [00:00] <TheNoodle> You'll also need to connect online if you want to update the game when new versions are released.
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#5 [00:04] <dleco> will you get the full game if you buy now and it comes out soon?
#6 [00:04] <TheNoodle> You will.
#7 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> ?? premium
#8 [00:04] <VoxelHead> premium: Both Alpha and Beta premium users will get bug fixes, updates, patches, and the final release of the game for free. This has not changed. The only difference between the two is the potential aspect of future expansions beyond final release. Alpha users were promised these future expansions for free, while people that bought it during Beta were not.
#9 [00:04] <dleco> and how much is it in download
#10 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> You mean, how big it is in size?
#11 [00:05] <BenMcLean> yay i'm an alpha w00t
#12 [00:05] <BenMcLean> anyway bye :)
#13 [00:05] <dleco> yes
#14 [00:06] <dleco> Which is better to buy Alpha or Beta?
#15 [00:06] <dleco> and how do you buy Alpha/Beta
#16 [00:06] <TheNoodle> You cannot buy alpha.
#17 [00:06] <TheNoodle> Think of alpha as early versions of beta.
#18 [00:07] <VoxelHead> Master?
#19 [00:07] <|Kiikun|> VoxelHead: shut up already
#20 [00:07] <dleco> Ohk
#21 [00:07] <VoxelHead> nnk
#22 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> In response to your previous question. Minecraft is a little over 40 megs in size. More when you count in save gaves
#23 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> er, games.
#24 [00:08] <dleco> Thank you
#25 [00:08] <dleco> Is there any underlying cost I should know about?
#26 [00:09] <TheNoodle> Nope.
#27 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> There is not. Once you buy minecraft, you get all updates, bug fixes, and the final version for free. There is no reoccuring monthly cost.
#28 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is a one time purchase. Once you purchase minecraft, you can install it on any computer you have access to, there is no DRM
#29 [00:10] <dleco> Any chance of virus?
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#31 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> No. There's been over 3 and a half million purchases of minecraft.
#32 [00:10] <TheNoodle> No.
#33 [00:11] <dleco> What about in the Multiplay servers?
#34 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> As long as you run the vanilla client that you download from minecraft.net, there is no chance of a virus getting on to your computer
#35 [00:12] <Thrae> dleco: Minecraft uses Java which runs itself in a sandbox -- unmodded, it's one of the safest networked games out there.
#36 [00:12] <TheNoodle> Multiplay host minecraft servers for a monthly cost, they are not required to play the game and you are welocme to join any number of community run minecraft servers. Some examples of which can be found here. http://minestatus.net
#37 [00:12] <TheNoodle> *welcome
#38 [00:13] <dleco> Ok. Are there any server that you suggest he can go on?
#39 [00:14] <dleco> He is 11 and from Aus
#40 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> All servers are independently run, there are no official servers out there run by Mojang. There's plenty of server lists out there. For a list of them:
#41 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> ??> dleco smp/servers
#42 [00:15] <VoxelHead> dleco: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#43 [00:15] <VoxelHead> dleco: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#44 [00:15] <Thrae> dleco: Please note when dealing with anti-virus there is the possibility of "false positive" where the anti-virus blocks Java (specifically, LWJGL) from functioning. This is a rare problem with a relative few anti-virus programs and it's absolutely nothing to worry about -- this happens with games more often than you may think, and it does NOT indicate a virus.
#45 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Each server has their own rules, as well as modded and custom feaures specific to each server. No two servers are run exactly alike.
#46 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> It's really up to the player to determine which server they want to frequent.
#47 [00:17] <dleco> Ok
#48 [00:17] <dleco> I think that is all
#49 [00:17] <dleco> Thank you so much for all the help
#50 [00:17] * GreyVulpine tips hat.
#50 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> If you have any further questions, we're here.
#51 [00:18] <dleco> Is there a page I can "like" you guys since this is the most help I have had all day :)
#52 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> There isn't that option, this is an IRC channel, a technology that's been around since before Facebook's "like" button
#53 [00:19] <dleco> Haha
#54 [00:19] <dleco> I know :) I used to do Quiz Trivia on MIRC years ago
#55 [00:20] * GreyVulpine hehs and winks.
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#59 [00:26] <josh_nat> i cant reset my password, the links just seem to go around in circles
#60 [00:28] <Thrae> Apparently that was a time-sensitive issue
#61 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> Bah
#62 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> Had http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword all copied as well..
#63 [00:28] <TheNoodle> lol
#64 [00:31] <|Kiikun|> air protal frame? am i totake it these new items mean skylands wil be in 1.9? :P
#65 [00:35] <Thrae> Now that Creative has Flying I think the probability of Skylands went way up. They're probably just working out the kinks of flying and how to implement in Survival....
#66 [00:38] * |Kiikun| keeps reading.
#66 [00:39] <|Kiikun|> hmm... apparently endermen arnt from the farlands at all.. and the air portal leand to 'The Ender' where endermen come from... and Thar Be Dragons
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#68 [00:43] <VoxelHead> bye daxne
#69 [00:46] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: Well, Notch retconned the Far Lands...mostly by fixing the bug ;)
#70 [00:47] <|Kiikun|> Thrae: actually i think it was an 'oops, oh well its fixed' thing.
#71 [00:47] <|Kiikun|> all part of the mag gen code getting overhauled
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#73 [00:51] <Frozen> Hello all. Anyone having issues connecting to Multiplayer servers?
#74 [00:51] <Ryladine> Frozen: Not really, no.
#75 [00:51] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :'(
#76 [00:51] <Ryladine> Frozen: Is it a specific server, or have you tried numerous servers?
#77 [00:52] <Frozen> Interesting. My mod team can't connect to any of the servers.
#78 [00:52] <Frozen> The Cave, Herocraft, and MineRP
#79 [00:52] <Ryladine> Frozen: Hm, give me a moment to be absolutely certain.
#80 [00:53] <Frozen> Thankyou.
#81 [00:53] <Ryladine> Hm.. Thats unexpected.
#82 [00:53] <Ryladine> What is the error you are all getting?
#83 [00:54] <Ryladine> Frozen: What is the error you are all getting?
#84 [00:54] <Frozen> Connection Lost - Internal client error: java.net.SocketException: Network is unreachable.
#85 [00:54] <Wug> the farlands were never part of minecraft
#86 [00:54] <Wug> they were, as thrae pointed out, misbehaviour
#87 [00:54] <Ryladine> Wug, there is no logical way servers should be un-reachable without an update correct?
#88 [00:55] <|Kiikun|> Wug: never intended :P
#89 [00:55] <Wug> not unless the network is down or there is some weird network configuration somewhere
#90 [00:55] <Wug> try flushing dns cache and connecting via ip
#91 [00:55] * VoxelHead is away: pornography
#91 [00:55] <Ryladine> lol
#92 [00:56] <Thrae> <VoxelHead> Man, look at that hot LISP-on-RUBY action!
#93 [00:56] <Zimsky> Is anyone else getting some sort of error when connecting to a server?
#94 [00:56] <Ryladine> Actually yes...
#95 [00:57] <Ryladine> Give me a moment to retrieve an IP, to try it that way...
#96 [00:57] <Zimsky> I seem to be getting "Server redirected too many times (20)"
#97 [00:58] <Ryladine> Wug, I'm going to have to step down from this issue, because I seem to be having it as well.
#98 [00:58] <Thrae> Try asking AuBot to !check the server, as AuBot will actually connect to the server momentarily
#99 [00:58] <Ryladine> ahh
#100 [00:58] <Ryladine> !check roleplayrevolution.stuzzhosting.com
#101 [00:58] <Ryladine> Hmo
#102 [00:58] <Ryladine> hmp*
#103 [00:59] <Ryladine> Three people unable to connect to servers, but AuBot works fine...
#104 [00:59] <Ryladine> lol
#105 [00:59] <Frozen> Odd.
#106 [00:59] <Ryladine> Anyone know what DNS AuBot is using?
#107 [00:59] <Thrae> Kealper would know
#108 [00:59] <Wug> h/o
#109 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> I'm able to connect to s.nerd.nu..
#110 [01:00] <Ryladine> It's probably just a DNS issue, which is why I was wondering what AuBot was using.
#111 [01:00] <Wug> I'm capable of logging in
#112 [01:00] <Thrae> Ryladine: You can also try http://www.zoneedit.com/lookup.html and putting in the DNS server they're using
#113 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> I'm able to connect to multiple servers
#114 [01:01] <Ryladine> Frozen, Zimsky, What DNS's are you using?
#115 [01:01] * Kealper rawrs?
#115 [01:01] <Zimsky> It's working now
#116 [01:01] <Ryladine> Alright
#117 [01:01] <Zimsky> I think it might have been some sort of minecraft.net problem
#118 [01:01] <Ryladine> lol. Same here.
#119 [01:01] <Ryladine> No, minecraft.net has nothing to do with connecting to servers
#120 [01:01] <Frozen> Yep just popped in. Hrm well that was odd.
#121 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Lies! Minecraft never has problems!
#122 [01:02] * GreyVulpine coughs
#122 [01:02] <Zimsky> BWAHAHAHA
#123 [01:02] <Ryladine> You two using the public google DNS?
#124 [01:02] <Shadow386> The authentication servers were down
#125 [01:02] <Shadow386> and so is/was twitter!
#126 [01:02] * Zimsky uses his own DNS servers
#126 [01:02] <Ryladine> lol
#127 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Fancy
#128 [01:02] <Ryladine> Very. :)
#129 [01:02] <Thrae> Zimsky: I don't think so -- "network unreachable"is a different error. Most likely it was just a net storm. The Internet is comprised of thousands upon thousands of interconnected nodes, and sometimes they experience problems. It takes time for your ISP and the ISP's backbone to switch you to a good route.
#130 [01:03] <Zimsky> I know that. :)
#131 [01:03] * Ryladine wanders off to continue making a machine with less than 256mb RAM run as a garrysmod server.
#131 [01:03] <Thrae> It may seem complicated, but bad nodes can seem like they're just stopping you from accessing 1 server when it's really your node to connect to, say, Dallas, TX
#132 [01:04] <Frozen> Well either way it works. Thank you all for your time and happy gaming. :)
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#135 [01:05] <Wug> http://iphonetoolbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/baby-tiger-f.jpg
#136 [01:05] <Wug> aaawwwwww
#137 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> aww
#138 [01:07] <|Kiikun|> ... eh. got uted in my random wallpaper rotation :P
#139 [01:07] <|Kiikun|> *got cuter
#140 [01:07] <Wug> http://www.scavophotos.com/Animals/fox/Wild-Things/2-fox-kits-copy/998677983_TBMak-L.jpg
#141 [01:07] <Wug> heh
#142 [01:08] * Wug runs away
#142 [01:10] <|Kiikun|> mmm foxy :D
#143 [01:11] <Wug> nekronuke made me find "happy links"
#144 [01:11] <Wug> most of them were baby animal pictures and videos
#145 [01:12] <Wug> because seriously, whats happier than that
#146 [01:12] <|Kiikun|> Pie.
#147 [01:12] <Wug> nope. baby animals are happier
#148 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> http://hackedirl.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/epic-win-photos-pumpkin-win.jpg
#149 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Hmm... I have a green laser...
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#160 [02:39] <chiefarchon> hi all im thinking of purchasing minecraft and I have a few questions to ask first
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#162 [02:40] <Kealper> ask away
#163 [02:40] <chiefarchon> thanks
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#168 [02:41] <chiefarchon> if I purchase minecraft, being that it is a server, do I get it for me and my friends or does each person need to purchase it separately?
#169 [02:42] <Kealper> well, a server is completely free to set up, but the accounts needed to get on said server must be paid for individually
#170 [02:43] <Kealper> so each person you wanted to play with would need their own paid Minecraft account
#171 [02:43] <chiefarchon> ok is it possible for the server owner to purchase multiple user accounts via the server ?
#172 [02:44] <Kealper> well sort of, you would be able to purchase yourself a normal account, and buy a few gift codes for your friends and give them a gift code, which they could use to redeem a copy of the game
#173 [02:44] <Kealper> and a gift code is the same price as normal accounts are
#174 [02:44] <chiefarchon> ah that's cool
#175 [02:45] <chiefarchon> so if I get some gift codes for friends, what does my friend actually get ?
#176 [02:45] <Kealper> one full premium account, it would be just like if they were to buy it themselves
#177 [02:46] <chiefarchon> ok thats cool
#178 [02:46] <Kealper> with a premium account, you are able to play the game on both single player and multi player as much as your heart desires, and you can download/install/play Minecraft using your premium account on any number of computers
#179 [02:46] <chiefarchon> so I would just give them the code or something would I, then when they sign in with the code the code gets used up and they recieve the full game... is that right
#180 [02:47] <chiefarchon> Ah premium sounds better?
#181 [02:47] <TheNoodle> Premium just means a paid account.
#182 [02:47] <Kealper> well, they would make a free account on the site, then click on the option to redeem a gift code. when they get there, they will be asked for the code, and after entering it, they have a fully-paid account
#183 [02:48] <Kealper> and yes, a "premium" account just means one that has paid
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#186 [02:48] <chiefarchon> right
#187 [02:50] <Kealper> i should say first though, before you start going crazy with the purchases....
#188 [02:51] <Kealper> make sure everyone has a half-way decent computer..Minecraft can be quite taxing as far as computer resources go
#189 [02:51] <chiefarchon> right ive made some notes now :P
#190 [02:51] <Kealper> and if you plan on hosting your own server from your house (which is what it sounds like) make sure your internet is fast enough
#191 [02:52] <chiefarchon> at least one of my friends has a laptop, does it tend to work on laptops. I think that his is a few years old though
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#193 [02:52] <Kealper> http://canihostaminecraftserver.com is usually a good benchmark to give you a rough idea of how many you could have
#194 [02:52] <chiefarchon> I have very good broadband lol
#195 [02:53] <Kealper> and that depends on the laptop, is it a proper laptop or a little netbook?
#196 [02:53] <Kordiro> So I just bought an gift code for a friend and it seems to just have gave me premium again?
#197 [02:53] <Kordiro> any ideas?
#198 [02:53] <Kealper> Kordiro: are you positive you did the gift code option?
#199 [02:53] <chiefarchon> proper laptop
#200 [02:53] <Kealper> chiefarchon: it'll probably be playable then
#201 [02:54] <Kordiro> Yes it I am.
#202 [02:54] <Kordiro> "Purchase Minecraft gift code"
#203 [02:54] <Kealper> Kordiro: you should have recieved an email with the giftcode in it and some instructions for the intended reciver of said code, and that gift code should appear on your account's profile page
#204 [02:55] <chiefarchon> hah that answers one of my questions too lol
#205 [02:55] <Kordiro> Thanks Kealper
#206 [02:55] <Kordiro> it wasn't in the email
#207 [02:55] * TheNoodle hugs TheBadShepperd
#207 [02:56] <Kordiro> but I found it on my acount
#208 [02:56] <Kordiro> You sir are the rocksors
#209 [02:56] <Kealper> np lol
#210 [02:58] <chiefarchon> OK if I get something like the realism texture pack, will that apply to everyone who comes on my server or will they each have to get it too?
#211 [02:58] <Kealper> they would have to get it as well, texture packs are for that specific person only
#212 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> Texture packs are client side only
#213 [02:59] <chiefarchon> I havent looked into texture packs too deeply, are they free or paid for?
#214 [03:00] <Wug> apparently there is a 5 second limit between login attempts on servers
#215 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Free
#216 [03:00] <Kealper> i can't say i've seen a paid-for texture pack, but there is always the possiblity lol
#217 [03:00] <chiefarchon> cool thanks
#218 [03:01] <TheBadShepperd> Kealper, donation only. :P
#219 [03:01] <Wug> attempt to login faster than that and the server will reject the login
#220 [03:01] <|Kiikun|Janus|> authors asking for donations, yes... but no required... damnit i got ninjad :/
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#222 [03:01] <rumpler> hi
#223 [03:02] <Kealper> that person was in here for a whole 30 seconds...
#224 [03:02] * Kealper sighs
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#225 [03:02] <Alurvj> help !
#226 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> only if you don't leave in the next minute
#227 [03:03] * TheNoodle hangs a shiny object on the wall to keep mibs interested long enough for someone to reply
#227 [03:03] <Alurvj> my minecraft cant connect to minecraft.net how ?
#228 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> Has it worked before?
#229 [03:03] <Alurvj> Nope
#230 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#231 [03:03] <Silent_Samurai> Try in browser.
#232 [03:03] <Alurvj> Ok
#233 [03:04] <Silent_Samurai> Lolwut?
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#235 [03:04] <TheBadShepperd> He went to Minecraft.net in his current tab, lul.
#236 [03:04] <Silent_Samurai> :\
#237 [03:04] <Silent_Samurai> I'll bet this mib is gonna leave quick too.
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#239 [03:05] <mib_vhe6su> can any of u help me pls
#240 [03:05] <Kealper> go on...
#241 [03:06] <TheNoodle> What is your problem mib_vhe6su?
#242 [03:06] <mib_vhe6su> my mincraft had an error and crash wat do i do
#243 [03:06] <mib_vhe6su> and i really wanna play
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#245 [03:06] <lemon-rev> mib_vhe6su force update
#246 [03:07] <mib_vhe6su> how u do that
#247 [03:07] <lemon-rev> do you use web broswer ?
#248 [03:07] <mib_vhe6su> uh i think so
#249 [03:07] <lemon-rev> and windows / mac
#250 [03:08] <mib_vhe6su> no not mac just windows
#251 [03:08] <lemon-rev> ok
#252 [03:08] <mib_vhe6su> so wat do i do
#253 [03:08] <lemon-rev> then also try
#254 [03:08] <mib_vhe6su> yer
#255 [03:08] <lemon-rev> ??> mib_vhe6su win/reinst
#256 [03:08] <VoxelHead> mib_vhe6su: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#257 [03:08] <VoxelHead> mib_vhe6su: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#258 [03:08] <mib_vhe6su> alright ill try that cheers
#259 [03:10] <mib_vhe6su> wait wats windows+r keys im only 12
#260 [03:10] <lemon-rev> at the bottem of the keyboard theres the space bar, whats in bewteen the alt + ctrl key
#261 [03:10] <lemon-rev> that looks like the windows key
#262 [03:11] <mib_vhe6su> ok
#263 [03:11] <mib_vhe6su> wait theres two fn and a pic
#264 [03:12] <lemon-rev> ???
#265 [03:12] <lemon-rev> theres %appdata% the directory is .minecraft
#266 [03:13] <mib_vhe6su> allright it sais bin and lastlogin
#267 [03:14] <mib_vhe6su> wich one
#268 [03:14] <lemon-rev> bin
#269 [03:15] <mib_vhe6su> jinput, lwjgl, lwjgl_util, md5s, minecraft, version, natives
#270 [03:15] <lemon-rev> look
#271 [03:15] <lemon-rev> goto .minecraft folder,
#272 [03:16] <lemon-rev> delete the bin folder, and relaunch mc, simple
#273 [03:16] <mib_vhe6su> k
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#275 [03:16] <TheNoodle> >.>
#276 [03:17] <lemon-rev> -_-
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#278 [03:18] * TheNoodle thanks lemon-rev for mib_vhe6su
#278 [03:18] <lemon-rev> np
#279 [03:18] <TheNoodle> lol
#280 [03:20] <chiefarchon> hello again
#281 [03:20] <chiefarchon> :P
#282 [03:20] * VoxelHead is back
#282 [03:22] <chiefarchon> I tested my computer on "Can I host a Server" website and apparently I can host 13 people which is more than I need, but then it talked of minecraft game servers ?
#283 [03:22] <Kealper> well, that was just saying if you wanted more than 13 people on at once
#284 [03:22] <Kealper> so if you don't plan on having 13 people on at once, you're probably fine with the internet you have
#285 [03:23] <chiefarchon> right, but if it says I can host 13 and im hosting lets say 7, everything will run just fine?
#286 [03:23] <lemon-rev> yes
#287 [03:23] <Kealper> should do fine yeah, as long as you are not torrenting or something like that
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#289 [03:24] <chiefarchon> urm I dont think so, I'd have to speak to my husband about such things lol
#290 [03:24] <chiefarchon> when
#291 [03:25] <chiefarchon> when you say torrenting are you speaking of how others will connect to my minecraft server ?
#292 [03:25] <Kealper> no, i mean downloading things off the internet with programs such as Vuse or uTorrent, as those also use a lot of upload bandwidth as well as download bandwidth
#293 [03:26] <chiefarchon> ah
#294 [03:26] <Kealper> and when it comes to hosting something like a Minecraft server, if you have a huge drain on your upload bandwidth (like a torrenting program will do) it usually makes people on the Minecraft server lag
#295 [03:27] <chiefarchon> I wont be torrenting lol
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#297 [03:30] <chiefarchon> when speaking of minecraft servers, what are the best recomended ?
#298 [03:30] <chiefarchon> or is there only one?
#299 [03:30] <Kealper> well, what do you mean for server software?
#300 [03:31] <Kealper> worded that badly... did you mean best server software?
#301 [03:32] <chiefarchon> oh sorry, what i meant was rentable servers
#302 [03:32] <chiefarchon> or free rentable minecraft servers if they exist lol
#303 [03:32] <TheNoodle> They do :P
#304 [03:32] <Kealper> ahh, that really depends...generally when it comes to any sort of hosting, the more you pay, the better your experience ends up being
#305 [03:32] <Kealper> *usually*
#306 [03:33] <chiefarchon> ok, may I ask what the options are and any links if possible :P
#307 [03:33] <TheNoodle> chiefarchon, A few that come to mind would be MultiPlay and BeastNode
#308 [03:33] <chiefarchon> or site names if there are no links lol
#309 [03:34] <TheNoodle> Give me a sec and I'll get a link to the mcf section on it
#310 [03:34] <Kealper> well....i'm a sucker for AllGamer's hosting, but what TheNoodle said work aswell
#311 [03:34] <chiefarchon> thanks for all the help its really appreciated by the way :)
#312 [03:35] <TheNoodle> chiefarchon, this is the Minecraft Forum section for paid minecraft hosts. http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/131-minecraft-server-hosting/
#313 [03:35] <AG_Clinton> Kealper: Thanks Keapler. :D
#314 [03:35] <Kealper> AG_Clinton: :P
#315 [03:35] <TheNoodle> lol
#316 [03:36] <AG_Clinton> chiefarchon: I'd be glad to talk to you about server hosting if you're interested.
#317 [03:36] <Kealper> AG_Clinton works at AllGamer (that's what the AG in front of his name stands for)
#318 [03:36] * Scott pokes Kealper in the eye.
#318 [03:36] <chiefarchon> ah rolf
#319 [03:36] <chiefarchon> rofl*
#320 [03:37] <Kealper> Scott: :<
#321 [03:37] <Scott> hey Kealper, your eye feels funny.
#322 [03:37] <Kealper> x_o
#323 [03:37] <Scott> Can I lick it?
#324 [03:37] <Kealper> lol...
#325 [03:37] <Scott> Well, that was fun.
#326 [03:38] <chiefarchon> sure id love to talk about this kealper
#327 [03:38] <chiefarchon> sorry i mean id love to talk about that AG_clinton
#328 [03:38] <Kealper> lol
#329 [03:39] <chiefarchon> bet that confused you both didnt it :P
#330 [03:39] <AG_Clinton> What kind of server are you wanting to setup and do you have any questions about it? I'm not just trying to sell a server here, I'm in a generous mood.
#331 [03:39] <Kealper> chiefarchon: quick, you might be able to get a really good deal out of Clinton :P
#332 [03:40] <chiefarchon> well for now all I need is something for me, my hubby, and about 4 or so friends really
#333 [03:40] <chiefarchon> yay good deals :D
#334 [03:41] <AG_Clinton> Are you wanting to rent a server or host at home?
#335 [03:41] <chiefarchon> hmm that depends really.
#336 [03:41] <TheNoodle> AG_Clinton, I remember looking at AllGamers site a while back and your dedis weren't listed, why is that still so? >.>
#337 [03:41] <Scott> Because each order is custom.
#338 [03:42] <AG_Clinton> ^
#339 [03:42] <chiefarchon> when you rent, is it all set up for you or do you still have to set it up yourself
#340 [03:42] <AG_Clinton> We set it all up for you.
#341 [03:42] <AG_Clinton> And I personally do my best to make sure to help out as best as possible.
#342 [03:42] <chiefarchon> well thats a good start
#343 [03:42] <AG_Clinton> I've installed plugins/webservers/mysql free of charge.
#344 [03:42] <chiefarchon> cool
#345 [03:42] <AG_Clinton> We also offer RAMDisk support for free.
#346 [03:43] <TheNoodle> "We are in the process of updating our dedicated server offering" ?
#347 [03:43] <AG_Clinton> We don't charge for all the little extras.
#348 [03:43] <chiefarchon> not sure what ramdisk is :(
#349 [03:43] <Kealper> chiefarchon: probably don't have to worry about it, generally it's a setup that is preferred for larger servers as it causes less lag when loads of people are online at once
#350 [03:44] <AG_Clinton> For a small server it probably won't do much.
#351 [03:44] <chiefarchon> not gonna be that many people on mine - no pun intended lol
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#353 [03:46] <chiefarchon> hmm I though somebody gave me a link to allgamers but I cant find it :(
#354 [03:47] <Kealper> https://allgamer.net/clients/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=0
#355 [03:47] <chiefarchon> thanks kealper
#356 [03:48] <chiefarchon> AG_ can I ask, are your servers very stable because I recently had a poor experience on a rented server ?
#357 [03:48] <AG_Clinton> Our servers are pretty rock solid.
#358 [03:49] <TheNoodle> AG_Clinton, is it possible to rent an mc server in another location?
#359 [03:49] <chiefarchon> well that sounds good
#360 [03:49] <AG_Clinton> The only bad rep we've ever had is people overloading the server with plugins and expecting something that's not possible.
#361 [03:49] <AG_Clinton> TheNoodle: Dallas, and Haarlem
#362 [03:49] <AG_Clinton> What location are you wanting?
#363 [03:50] <chiefarchon> urm .... location ?
#364 [03:50] <AG_Clinton> Where the server location is.
#365 [03:50] <chiefarchon> new newbie here lol
#366 [03:50] <chiefarchon> do you mean what country or something?
#367 [03:50] <AG_Clinton> The closer the server is located to where you are, (Usually) you get lower ping/response times.
#368 [03:50] <TheNoodle> As close as Australia as possible for me.
#369 [03:50] <chiefarchon> im in UK
#370 [03:51] <AG_Clinton> Scott: Do we have anything in Sacramento left?
#371 [03:51] <Scott> Yes.
#372 [03:51] <Scott> and NL.
#373 [03:51] <AG_Clinton> We offer hosting in the Netherlands chief.
#374 [03:51] <chiefarchon> sure
#375 [03:51] <chiefarchon> sounds good
#376 [03:51] <VoxelHead> sounds good... sood
#377 [03:52] <AG_Clinton> We have a demo server in Dallas that's loaded with a few plugins if you want to check it out.
#378 [03:52] <chiefarchon> all the people I have in mind are in England UK
#379 [03:52] <chiefarchon> That sounds good too
#380 [03:52] <AG_Clinton> minecraft.allgamer.net is the IP
#381 [03:54] <chiefarchon> well I suppose we better talk about $ or £
#382 [03:54] <chiefarchon> is there a less public way for me to give you my email
#383 [03:55] <AG_Clinton> Double click on my name.
#384 [03:55] <VoxelHead> mmm Thebadshepperd
#385 [04:03] * Superduper123 [Superduper123@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#386 [04:04] <Superduper123> Hello?
#387 [04:04] <Superduper123> Can someone reccomend a good, cheap, server host?
#388 [04:04] * Kealper coughs
#388 [04:04] <Kealper> Scott: you're up to bat since Clinton is probably still busy :P
#389 [04:04] * Superduper123 waits...
#389 [04:05] <Superduper123> Kealper?
#390 [04:05] <Superduper123> Can you reccomend a good, cheap, server host?
#391 [04:05] <Kealper> Superduper123: what do you consider "cheap" and how many users are you looking at hosting?
#392 [04:06] <Kealper> (also, holy cow it's 4am here)
#393 [04:06] <Superduper123> I consider cheap as <$20.00 and a maximum of 20, I don't plan to have more than 10 at a time though.
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#395 [04:07] <AG_Clinton> Superduper123: Any plugins or mods?
#396 [04:07] <Superduper123> Yes.
#397 [04:07] <Superduper123> No mods, a few plugins/
#398 [04:07] <Superduper123> Do you want a list of plugins?
#399 [04:07] <AG_Clinton> Sure. I'm just seeing what kind of RAM it would use.
#400 [04:07] <Superduper123> Ok.
#401 [04:08] <Superduper123> .Aubot
#402 [04:08] * EnemyViolent [EnemyViolent@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#403 [04:08] <Superduper123> Lol
#404 [04:08] <Superduper123> Not all bots respond to .<Nick>
#405 [04:08] <Superduper123> :/
#406 [04:08] <Superduper123> :O
#407 [04:08] <EnemyViolent> how do i revert back to the 1.8, i wanna play multiplayer again
#408 [04:08] <VoxelHead> Good grief.
#409 [04:08] <Superduper123> Why no emoticons
#410 [04:08] <Superduper123> Voxel?
#411 [04:08] <Superduper123> Who me?
#412 [04:08] <VoxelHead> A tv.
#413 [04:08] <Superduper123> Ok.
#414 [04:09] <Superduper123> Enemy, aren't we already in 1.8?
#415 [04:09] <EnemyViolent> No, I mean, I installed the 1.9 prerelease
#416 [04:09] <AG_Clinton> EnemyViolent: Replace the minecraft.jar in the appdata.
#417 [04:09] <Superduper123> You're not a bot?
#418 [04:09] <Kealper> EnemyViolent: we don't provide technical support for that until it's oficially released
#419 [04:09] <Superduper123> Or if you don't have the 1.8.1 version, just delete it and start minecraft.
#420 [04:09] <EnemyViolent> Oh, OK, derp, thanks
#421 [04:10] <Superduper123> Sorry Au, Its just... Your name.
#422 [04:10] <TheNoodle> lolled.
#423 [04:10] <TheNoodle> Hard.
#424 [04:10] <Kealper> XD
#425 [04:10] <Superduper123> Hey Noodle.
#426 [04:10] <EnemyViolent> Where is the minecraft.jar directory
#427 [04:10] <Superduper123> -.-
#428 [04:10] <Superduper123> -.-#
#429 [04:10] <AG_Clinton> EnemyViolent: When you load the game. Hit force update
#430 [04:10] <Superduper123> Or even better.
#431 [04:10] <Kealper> EnemyViolent: run your launcher, click Options, click Force Update, then start the game
#432 [04:10] <Superduper123> -.-''
#433 [04:10] <EnemyViolent> Oh, OK, that'll do it
#434 [04:10] <EnemyViolent> Thanks guys!
#435 [04:10] <EnemyViolent> <3
#436 [04:10] <Superduper123> :D
#437 [04:11] <VoxelHead> =]
#438 [04:11] <Superduper123> ....
#439 [04:11] <Superduper123> Ermmm.
#440 [04:11] <Superduper123> Who did you give owner to?
#441 [04:11] * EnemyViolent [EnemyViolent@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#442 [04:11] <Superduper123> Oh, ok.
#443 [04:11] * Kealper whistles nonchalantly
#443 [04:12] <Superduper123> So AG, you said you were searching?
#444 [04:12] <TheNoodle> Superduper123, mibbit misinterprets +q as owner, on esper q is a mute.
#445 [04:12] <AG_Clinton> I offer hosting myself with AllGamer, LLC.
#446 [04:12] <RiGi> .players
#447 [04:12] <RiGi> sorry wrong window
#448 [04:12] <Superduper123> Sorry, but I don't accept hosting from people on chats.
#449 [04:13] <Superduper123> It may sound stupid but,
#450 [04:13] <Kealper> Superduper123: https://allgamer.net/clients/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=1 if you wanted the site he's talking about
#451 [04:13] <AG_Clinton> Superduper123: Ok, goodluck in your search.
#452 [04:14] <Superduper123> Which tab on the site?
#453 [04:14] <AG_Clinton> Normally I associate social with better customer service haha.
#454 [04:14] <Superduper123> AG? Which tab on the site is the one for server hosting
#455 [04:15] <AG_Clinton> For Minecraft specific. Gameservers
#456 [04:15] <Kealper> Superduper123: the link i gave you is to their Minecraft server hosting, if that's the link you were talking about
#457 [04:15] <|Kiikun|Janus|> oh so thats what the ag stands for
#458 [04:15] <Kealper> |Kiikun|Janus|: lol...
#459 [04:15] <Superduper123> Which one? Minecraft Beta Premium or Budget?
#460 [04:16] <Kealper> ehh, go with the Premium Minecraft Beta one, the Budget ones are for like you and one other person lol
#461 [04:16] <Superduper123> Oh, ok.
#462 [04:16] <AG_Clinton> Scott hates that I offer budget.
#463 [04:16] <Superduper123> What's Mcmyadmin?
#464 [04:17] <Kealper> AG_Clinton: so he tells me lol...
#465 [04:17] <Kealper> Superduper123: web-based control panel
#466 [04:17] <Superduper123> Explain...
#467 [04:17] <AG_Clinton> Superduper123: http://www.mcmyadmin.com/
#468 [04:17] <AG_Clinton> I love MCMA.
#469 [04:18] <Superduper123> It doesn't seem like it does much
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#471 [04:19] <Superduper123> What are slots? Sorry. O_O
#472 [04:19] <Kealper> it has some neat features, but it helps a lot if you are not familiar with an SSH console
#473 [04:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> player spaces. number of them :P
#474 [04:19] <AG_Clinton> Superduper123: The amount of players.
#475 [04:19] <AG_Clinton> We only recommend the amount of players. I need to update that.
#476 [04:20] <Superduper123> That's a bit expensive.
#477 [04:20] <AG_Clinton> Those were listed back in the 1.3 days
#478 [04:20] <|Kiikun|Janus|> lol
#479 [04:20] <Superduper123> I just want something <$20.00/month
#480 [04:20] <Superduper123> Ima use servercraft now. :/
#481 [04:21] <AG_Clinton> Goodluck.
#482 [04:22] <Superduper123> Thanks, (Not being sarcastoc)
#483 [04:22] <Superduper123> *sarcastic
#484 [04:23] <AG_Clinton> Servercraft does charge more though.
#485 [04:24] <|Kiikun|Janus|> hmm... out of curioisity.. can we run literally ANYTHING? atleaststaying on the legal side :P
#486 [04:25] * |Kiikun|Janus| sorta misses having a proper webserver
#486 [04:26] <AG_Clinton> |Kiikun|Janus|: On our services? Yes. Our VPS hosting and Minecraft Premium services allow anything legal to be run and work pretty good as webservers.
#487 [04:26] * |Kiikun|Janus| keeps in mind :P
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#488 [04:28] <TheNoodle> lol
#489 [04:28] * RickRolled [RickRolled@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#490 [04:34] <TheNoodle> !paid cosban
#491 [04:34] <TheNoodle> !paid cosban55
#492 [04:34] * TheNoodle grumbles
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#493 [04:44] <Wug> I'm being evil
#494 [04:44] <Kealper> D:
#495 [04:48] <TheNoodle> Evil is always fun.
#496 [04:48] <Wug> it truly truly is.
#497 [04:48] <Wug> I'm glad I'm not taking sides
#498 [04:48] <Kealper> :o
#499 [04:48] <Wug> its really hard to pick the good side over the evil side
#500 [04:49] * Wug just kind of derps around on whichever side
#500 [04:49] <Kealper> "oh hey, this side has cookies in the oven today!"
#501 [04:49] <Wug> and hey, its science like this that helps discover exploits and patch them
#502 [04:50] <Kealper> indeed
#503 [04:50] <Wug> i'm not sure I'm going to be done today or not
#504 [04:50] <Wug> but I'm going to need someone's help to test it
#505 [04:50] <Kealper> what are you sciencing right now anyways? lol
#506 [04:51] <Wug> the man in the middle attack
#507 [04:51] <Kealper> ahh, that one
#508 [04:51] <Wug> I'm implementing it by importing the server network handling stuff into the client
#509 [04:51] <Wug> and modifying it so it can pick a specific user by username and forward the login attempt to a real server
#510 [04:51] <Kealper> o.o
#511 [04:52] <Wug> this one is a bit more powerful than the one I implemented yesterday and is more difficult to set up
#512 [04:52] <Wug> since I dont need a session key to do it
#513 [04:53] <Wug> also, while I'm using modloader to write it, I'm not distributing it
#514 [04:53] * Kealper isn't even sure an attack like that is even preventable
#514 [04:53] <Kealper> i assumed you wouldn't lol
#515 [04:53] <Wug> it isnt, thats the thing
#516 [04:53] <Wug> they could make the auth token track the ip address of who has it
#517 [04:54] <Wug> but you can spoof that too
#518 [04:54] <Kealper> hmm...
#519 [04:55] <Wug> since the internet is basically a bunch of connected machines there isnt any way to really tell where something came from
#520 [04:55] <Kealper> what if they did a random token as they do now, but append it with some sort of hash of the token owner's IP?...that would definitely keep out the script kiddies
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#522 [04:55] <Wug> in receiving the connection from the real client you'd get their ip
#523 [04:56] <Wug> the only way to do it properly would be to encrypt the connection
#524 [04:56] <Kealper> hmm...
#525 [04:56] <Wug> and add some stuff into a 3 way handshake with the client, the server, and the auth server
#526 [04:56] <Kealper> iirc it already basically is a 3-way handshake
#527 [04:57] <Wug> yeah but because its not encrypted, you can do stuff like this
#528 [04:57] <Wug> if you were hax enough, you could make this work with a compromised router
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#530 [04:57] <Kealper> oh, you mean use https on that stuff too
#531 [04:57] <Kealper> that would be pretty hax lol
#532 [04:58] <Wug> maybe I'll do that too someday
#533 [04:58] <Kealper> hack a router? XD
#534 [04:58] <Wug> I'll install openwrt on my poor junker
#535 [04:58] <Wug> probably has less ram than modern routers :P
#536 [04:59] <judoka> hey, i got a problem
#537 [04:59] <Wug> fire away
#538 [04:59] <judoka> So our server is still on 1.8
#539 [04:59] <Kealper> i've got one of those laying around somewhere in my house, it can't have normal *wrt firmwares on it, it can only run dd-wrt micro :/
#540 [04:59] <judoka> and i just died
#541 [05:00] <judoka> so resulting experience orb hell ensues
#542 [05:00] <Wug> lol
#543 [05:00] <Wug> go pick them up
#544 [05:00] <judoka> but this time, when I log in, i drop down, as if I had fallen into a chunk update
#545 [05:00] <Wug> its probably just lag
#546 [05:00] <judoka> then I get an error and it logs me out
#547 [05:00] <Kealper> oh my
#548 [05:00] <Kealper> that's the exp issue everyone is complaining about in 1.8....
#549 [05:00] <judoka> throws a read time out exception
#550 [05:01] <Wug> if you are a server admin you can stop the server, open the world with mcedit, and remove the experience orbs
#551 [05:01] <judoka> you can do that?!
#552 [05:01] <Wug> mmhm
#553 [05:01] <Wug> you'll lose any items you had
#554 [05:01] <judoka> hot damn, i had to leave a build project in a chunk far away because of the orbs
#555 [05:01] <Wug> select the area and use 'remove entities'
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#557 [05:01] <judoka> yeah, i just had stone shit
#558 [05:01] <judoka> thanks very much
#559 [05:01] <Wug> np
#560 [05:02] <cyberman42> hi
#561 [05:02] <Wug> cant remember where remove entities is, but its in there somewheer
#562 [05:02] <Wug> hello cyberman42
#563 [05:02] <judoka> we've been delaying on the update because we dont want to start a new world
#564 [05:02] <Wug> you dont have to
#565 [05:02] <judoka> i know, but
#566 [05:02] <Wug> but I dont recommend updating because its a prerelease and buggy etc
#567 [05:02] <judoka> we are also delaying any exploring
#568 [05:03] <judoka> so we dont have to deal with going kilometers away for new chunks
#569 [05:03] <Wug> cyberman42: ask a question
#570 [05:03] <Wug> judoka: you can move the spawn with mcedit too
#571 [05:03] <Wug> thats what I did when the levelgen changed
#572 [05:03] <judoka> yeah, but we want to kinda remain in our city
#573 [05:03] <cyberman42> I want to know now some about the the NBT formant for SMP
#574 [05:03] <judoka> well, most do
#575 [05:04] <judoka> i could care less
#576 [05:04] <cyberman42> whare is the level.dat for the client
#577 [05:04] <Wug> cyberman42: its more or less the same as single player, but if im not mistaken the player tag is ignored
#578 [05:04] <Wug> level.dat in for the client is in the world folder
#579 [05:04] <Wug> as is the level.dat for the server
#580 [05:05] <Wug> servers have a players folder in the world folder which contains the player data for each player (by name)
#581 [05:05] <cyberman42> ok
#582 [05:05] <Wug> theres also a data folder which has things like maps
#583 [05:05] <Wug> for the most part you can ignore that
#584 [05:06] <cyberman42> I look in to buld a program that will show the invetory of the play on some thing like the logtech G15 sreeen
#585 [05:07] <Wug> I've actually written some nbt parsing tools
#586 [05:07] <Wug> it isnt terribly difficult, the format is well documented
#587 [05:08] <cyberman42> where is the documentation i could not find it on the wiki
#588 [05:08] <Wug> http://web.archive.org/web/20110723210920/http://www.minecraft.net/docs/NBT.txt
#589 [05:08] <Wug> for some reason the actual documentation on minecraft.net vanished so I had to find it in the wayback machine
#590 [05:09] <Wug> but there it is.
#591 [05:11] <Kealper> hmm...my laptop's touchpad driver just crashed
#592 [05:11] <Wug> lol
#593 [05:12] <Kealper> Synaptics, y u no make stable driver
#594 [05:12] <cyberman42> that sucks
#595 [05:12] <cyberman42> this is true
#596 [05:12] <Wug> mollstam: is the NBT documentation intentionally gone or is it just in limbo somewhere
#597 [05:12] <Wug> i'm not sure you'll ever read that
#598 [05:13] <Kealper> i mean...Windows is defaulting to it's absolutely no features driver, so it still moves the cursor around, but bleh
#599 [05:13] <Kealper> Wug: i think i heard it mentioned before that it ended up in limbo after a site upgrade
#600 [05:13] <Wug> well the wayback machine has it
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#602 [05:14] <cyberman42> well thinks for find if for me this is a big help
#603 [05:14] <Wug> np
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#606 [05:22] <chiefarchon> Hi its me again
#607 [05:22] <chiefarchon> When you put a mod on minecraft does that mod affect everyone on the server?
#608 [05:23] <chiefarchon> for instance ive just seen the "mine colony" mode. would that affect everyone on the server
#609 [05:25] <Kealper> well, it depends on the mod really, but usually yes if a server mod is active, all players are affected
#610 [05:25] <Kealper> but some server mods will require companion client mods to be used for all clients connecting, too
#611 [05:25] <chiefarchon> thanks again kealper
#612 [05:25] <chiefarchon> ah
#613 [05:26] <chiefarchon> I really had not realised how HUGE this game is lol
#614 [05:27] <chiefarchon> Is there a place that really talks about good mods to get, lets say for instance on youtube or a website.
#615 [05:27] <Kealper> there are some gems on the Minecraft forums as far as mods go
#616 [05:28] <AG_Clinton> chiefarchon: I recommend the minecraft forums as well.
#617 [05:28] <AG_Clinton> And yes, Minecraft has a lot of potential.
#618 [05:29] <chiefarchon> ive been looking there now but there is sooooooooooooo much I dont know where on earth to start lol
#619 [05:30] <Wug> dont repeat characters
#620 [05:30] <Wug> vox autoquiets
#621 [05:30] <judoka> Would mcedit go really slowly due to the orbs?
#622 [05:30] <chiefarchon> Im reading up on everything until my hubby gets home tonight I think then we will purchase the game and set it up together.
#623 [05:30] <Wug> its possible
#624 [05:30] <judoka> because whenever I reach that area it stops
#625 [05:30] <judoka> more or less
#626 [05:31] <Wug> give it a while
#627 [05:31] <Wug> its possible that the map is corrupted in some other way
#628 [05:31] <judoka> there we go
#629 [05:31] <judoka> took about two minutes
#630 [05:31] <Wug> if you zip it and upload it to mediafire Ill take a look
#631 [05:31] <Kealper> the amount of error handling MCEdit must have in it has to be mind-numbing
#632 [05:31] <judoka> but we are slowly moving
#633 [05:32] <Wug> it probably is the orbs though
#634 [05:32] <Wug> mcedit doesnt handle huge numbers of entities very gracefully
#635 [05:32] <Kealper> yeah, i wouldn't doubt it...if it was enough orbs in one place to do that sort of nasty, it'd probably take a bit to clean up
#636 [05:33] <judoka> what is odd is that i had just died right before that
#637 [05:33] <Kealper> Wug: Python showing the drawbacks of an interpreted language, i guess lol
#638 [05:33] <judoka> and it worked normally, slow as hell, but no time outs
#639 [05:33] <judoka> then i was climbing up a ladder, and woops
#640 [05:34] <Kealper> hmm...5:30 am...
#641 [05:34] <Wug> kealper, you'd know this
#642 [05:34] <AG_Clinton> Kealper: I removed something like 100k orbs with mcedit about a week ago for a client. It crashed the server everytime, opened it up with MCEdit... Haha
#643 [05:35] <Wug> the serverping packet
#644 [05:35] <Wug> what does that do
#645 [05:35] <Wug> thats what aubot reacts to isnt it?
#646 [05:35] <Kealper> yes
#647 [05:35] <Wug> the rest of the info is in the login packet right
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#649 [05:36] <Kealper> you are talking about 0xFE or whatever it is, right? not 0x00?
#650 [05:36] <Wug> 0xFE is serverping
#651 [05:36] <Sealchen> hi can anyone help me
#652 [05:36] <Wug> 0x1 is login I think
#653 [05:36] <Sealchen> i have a question about the premium account
#654 [05:36] <Wug> 0x0 is keepalive
#655 [05:36] <Wug> fire away
#656 [05:37] <Kealper> Wug: yeah, that gets sent without any extra data, and as soon as you send it the server kicks you with the kick reason being the server name, current users, and max users
#657 [05:37] <Wug> lol
#658 [05:37] <Wug> yeah, thats what I though
#659 [05:37] <Kealper> delimted by that double-S used by colors
#660 [05:37] <Wug> t
#661 [05:39] <Sealchen> is here a support about the premium accounts
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#663 [05:39] <Sealchen> ?
#664 [05:40] <Wug> ask a question
#665 [05:40] <Wug> cant answer a question I dont have
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#667 [05:41] <Kealper> well it's late, i think i'm going to bed finnally
#668 [05:41] <Kealper> finally*
#669 [05:43] <Sealchen> hm i am no more premium
#670 [05:43] <Wug> whats your account name
#671 [05:43] <Sealchen> Sealchen
#672 [05:43] <Sealchen> i bought a minecraft key
#673 [05:43] <Wug> !paid Sealchen
#674 [05:43] <Wug> a gift code you mean?
#675 [05:43] <Sealchen> yes
#676 [05:43] <Sealchen> a cd key i bought
#677 [05:43] <Sealchen> this works
#678 [05:43] <Sealchen> and now no more..
#679 [05:44] <Wug> you have to apply it to your account then
#680 [05:44] <Wug> if you go to the profile page it will show the gift code
#681 [05:44] <Wug> you can just redeem it on yourself
#682 [05:44] <Sealchen> Invalid gift code or already used
#683 [05:44] <Sealchen> lol
#684 [05:45] <Sealchen> but the key works before
#685 [05:45] <Sealchen> wait
#686 [05:45] <Wug> they only work once
#687 [05:45] <Sealchen> i filled the key some days/weeks before and redeemed then
#688 [05:45] <Wug> does it show the account that it was used on
#689 [05:45] <Wug> it will say next to the code which account it was used in
#690 [05:45] <Wug> used on*
#691 [05:45] <Sealchen> I have the key already used for my account
#692 [05:46] <Wug> does it say that next to the gift code?
#693 [05:46] <Sealchen> but now i lost my premium status
#694 [05:46] <Wug> just check
#695 [05:46] <Sealchen> i understand that this key is already in use but used by me^^
#696 [05:46] <Wug> does it say that
#697 [05:46] <Wug> or does it say something else, or nothing
#698 [05:47] <Sealchen> sry my english sucks atm..
#699 [05:47] <Sealchen> im a native german speaker hehe
#700 [05:47] <Wug> on your profile page it should have the gift code section
#701 [05:48] <Wug> next to the gift code it should say "redeemed by Sealchen"
#702 [05:48] <Wug> does it say that or something else
#703 [05:48] <Sealchen> one mom
#704 [05:49] <Sealchen> when i want to re redeem this code
#705 [05:50] <Sealchen> says me: Invalid gift code or already used
#706 [05:50] <Wug> stop.
#707 [05:50] <Wug> listen to what I'm telling you to do
#708 [05:50] <Wug> http://www.minecraft.net/profile <--- go here
#709 [05:50] <Sealchen> ok
#710 [05:50] <Wug> what does it say next to the gift code
#711 [05:50] <Sealchen> Gift Codes
#712 [05:50] <Sealchen> You currently haven't bought any gift codes, click here to buy one.
#713 [05:50] <Sealchen> Redeem Gift Code
#714 [05:50] <Sealchen> If someone was kind enought to provide you with a gift, click here to redeem the code.
#715 [05:50] <Wug> was this code given to you by someone else?
#716 [05:51] <Sealchen> i bought this code from a cdkey website
#717 [05:51] <Wug> minecraft doesnt have cd keys
#718 [05:51] <Sealchen> watch
#719 [05:51] <Wug> the only place to get minecraft gift codes is minecraft.net
#720 [05:51] <Wug> there are no authorized resellers
#721 [05:52] <Sealchen> ou
#722 [05:52] <Sealchen> i dont now that
#723 [05:53] <Sealchen> one mom i give you the link to the offer
#724 [05:54] <Sealchen> http://www.ultimatumgamekeys.com/en/game/buy-minecraft-cd-key
#725 [05:54] <Sealchen> * Game included: Minecraft
#726 [05:54] <Sealchen> The game is original, unused, untouched.
#727 [05:54] <Sealchen> so legal for me..
#728 [05:54] <Wug> well
#729 [05:54] <Sealchen> i think they bought the key from your side and resell it..
#730 [05:54] <Sealchen> hm
#731 [05:54] <Wug> 1) distributing minecraft from anywhere but minecraft.net is illegal
#732 [05:55] <Wug> 2) nobody except mojang is authorized to sell minecraft gift codes
#733 [05:55] <Wug> 3) minecraft is not distributed on CD and does not require CD keys
#734 [05:55] <Wug> looks like you mightve fallen for a scam
#735 [05:56] <judoka> Thank you very much wug, it is all up and running!
#736 [05:57] <Wug> np
#737 [05:58] <Sealchen> this is not good...
#738 [05:58] <Wug> yeah it doesnt look it
#739 [05:59] <Wug> if you paid with a paypal you might be able to demand your money back
#740 [05:59] <Sealchen> its on the way
#741 [05:59] <Sealchen> i think i get a refund for that illegal key
#742 [05:59] <Wug> I'm not sure why you wouldnt just buy the code from minecraft.net
#743 [05:59] <Sealchen> sry i dont know that i think this is a legal resell..
#744 [05:59] <Sealchen> its just a little cheaper..
#745 [06:00] <Sealchen> im a student not a worker with many money^^
#746 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> That should have been a red flag there. There is no reason why people would honestly sell it cheaper than what it costs.
#747 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> If you purchased it via a credit card, I would call them and do a chargeback or file a dispute.
#748 [06:01] <GreyVulpine> You very likely got scammed.
#749 [06:01] <Sealchen> hmm
#750 [06:01] <Sealchen> but why the key works for some days?
#751 [06:01] <Sealchen> where they get this key...
#752 [06:01] <Sealchen> lol
#753 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> We see this scam all the time. The guy buys the gift code from minecraft.net, gives you the official key. You redeem it, play it for a few days. The guy does a chargeback on his side, getting back the money he paid mojang, as well as your money that you paid him
#754 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> He gets back the money for the gift code, and is up the money he got from you.
#755 [06:03] <Sealchen> rofl
#756 [06:03] <Sealchen> can i chargeback my money with paypal without his agree?
#757 [06:03] <GreyVulpine> Very likely.
#758 [06:04] <Sealchen> how
#759 [06:06] <GreyVulpine> https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/cps/general/PPDisputeResolution-outside
#760 [06:06] <Sealchen> and can i get problems with the owner from that side
#761 [06:06] <Sealchen> ?
#762 [06:07] <Wug> probably but since he's a scammer he has very little case
#763 [06:11] <Sealchen> hmm ok im on the way to get my money back with paypal
#764 [06:11] <Sealchen> i hope they accept that
#765 [06:13] <Sealchen> when i get my money back i bought that from the official side...
#766 [06:14] <Sealchen> thank you very much for your help/support
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#773 [06:28] <chiefarchon> once you purchase minecraft what happens, cos I cant see a download?
#774 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> Launcher's available at minecraft.net/download
#775 [06:29] <chiefarchon> thank you
#776 [06:29] <Wug> you dont so much as purchase minecraft as you purchase premium status
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#778 [06:29] <chiefarchon> ah
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#780 [06:34] <mib_d31kov> fancy a bum
#781 [06:34] <mib_d31kov> fancy a bum
#782 [06:34] <mib_d31kov> fancy a bum
#783 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> !k mib_d31kov
#784 [06:34] * GreyBot kicked mib_d31kov from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_d31kov :<Kicks:830>)
#785 [06:35] <Wug> havent we seen him before
#786 [06:35] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#787 [06:35] <SinZ> twice yesterday
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#789 [06:37] <mib_d31kov> fancy a bum
#790 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> !kb mib_d31kov
#791 [06:37] <mib_d31kov> fancy a bum
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#793 [06:38] <Wug> vox banned
#794 [06:38] <Wug> xales: kill him for ban evasion
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#796 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Trying to get somebody from #dragonweyr to notice
#797 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> He's been network banned from here before
#798 [06:39] <Wug> isnt Kramer here
#799 [06:39] * Wug prods kramer
#799 [06:39] <keret> im getting a black screen when i try to join or create a world what do i do
#800 [06:40] <Wug> force update
#801 [06:40] <keret> alredy did that
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#803 [06:40] <keret> please help me
#804 [06:41] <Wug> is java up to date
#805 [06:41] <keret> yer
#806 [06:41] <Wug> what version do you have
#807 [06:41] <keret> latest i baught it like a hour ago
#808 [06:42] <Wug> I mean of java
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#812 [06:48] <Holzi> help? ^^
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#815 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/xj6us.jpg
#816 [07:01] * GreyVulpine gasps
#816 [07:03] * Wug makes a the king noise
#816 [07:03] <Wug> OAAHHHH
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#822 [07:24] <RickRolled> Why my fuckin server gives me connection refused when i try to login with localhost ? I am using windows 7 32 bit and I got installed Eset Smart Security 5 BETA and Microsoft Security Essentails. Help please -_-
#823 [07:24] * AuBot kicked RickRolled from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ickRolled :Please keep it civil.)
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#825 [07:24] <Wug> bot autokicks for swearing
#826 [07:24] <RickRolled> Why my fuckin server gives me connection refused when i try to login with localhost ? I am using windows 7 32 bit and I got installed Eset Smart Security 5 BETA and Microsoft Security Essentails. Help please -_-
#827 [07:24] * AuBot kicked RickRolled from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ickRolled :Please keep it civil.)
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#830 [07:25] <Wug> I wasnt talking to myself
#831 [07:25] <RickRolled> Why i am auto kicking ?
#832 [07:25] <Wug> bot autokicks for swearing
#833 [07:25] <Sidji_> HI there
#834 [07:25] <RickRolled> Why my *lovely* server gives me connection refused when i try to login with localhost ? I am using windows 7 32 bit and I got installed Eset Smart Security 5 BETA and Microsoft Security Essentails. Help please -_-
#835 [07:25] <Sidji_> wanna tried minecraft
#836 [07:26] <Sidji_> and it creashes my java
#837 [07:26] <Wug> server is running right?
#838 [07:26] <Wug> derp
#839 [07:26] <Sidji_> *crash
#840 [07:26] <Wug> Sidji_: update it
#841 [07:26] <Wug> :j
#842 [07:26] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#843 [07:26] <RickRolled> Wug: sure, i am trying to set up a local server
#844 [07:26] <Sidji_> done
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#846 [07:26] <Wug> RickRolled: yeah I know
#847 [07:26] <Wug> the server is running when you try to connect right?
#848 [07:27] <Wug> if you specified a port make sure you use it
#849 [07:27] <Wug> and clear the server-ip line
#850 [07:27] <Sidji_> the error is caused by nvoglnt.dll
#851 [07:27] <Wug> now that I think about it its probably that last one
#852 [07:27] <Sidji_> java error report
#853 [07:27] <RickRolled> Wug: server-ip lline is empty
#854 [07:27] <Wug> Sidji_: probably a graphics driver issue then
#855 [07:27] <Wug> :dx > Sidji_
#856 [07:27] <WugBot> Sidji_: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#857 [07:27] <WugBot> Sidji_: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#858 [07:27] <Wug> RickRolled: pastebin the server config please
#859 [07:27] <RickRolled> Wug: sure
#860 [07:28] <RickRolled> Wug: http://paste.ubuntu.com/703901/
#861 [07:28] <Sidji_> ok
#862 [07:29] <Wug> RickRolled: you're connecting to 127.0.0.1:25565?
#863 [07:29] <RickRolled> yes
#864 [07:29] <Wug> the server is in fact running?
#865 [07:29] <RickRolled> yes.
#866 [07:29] <Wug> is the server showing any connection attempts on the console
#867 [07:29] <RickRolled> nope .(
#868 [07:29] <Sidji_> http://pastebin.com/Qm007ivr
#869 [07:29] <Wug> ;ip RickRolled
#870 [07:29] <WugBot> IP address of RickRolled is: 78.191.22.219
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#872 [07:30] <Wug> I cant connect either
#873 [07:30] <Wug> try disabling mse
#874 [07:30] <RickRolled> Wug: try agaib
#875 [07:30] <RickRolled> Wug: try again
#876 [07:30] <Wug> still cant
#877 [07:30] <RickRolled> I disabled MSE and Eset but nothing happaned
#878 [07:30] <RickRolled> Wug: And i am using a laptop
#879 [07:31] <Wug> Sidji_: does it crash immediately or after 10 minutes or so
#880 [07:31] <Sidji_> at the launching
#881 [07:31] <Sidji_> about 3 sec
#882 [07:31] <Wug> try doing a clean install of your graphics drivers
#883 [07:31] <RickRolled> Wug: help me please...
#884 [07:31] <Sidji_> ok
#885 [07:31] <Wug> RickRolled: you're not the most important person in the whole world
#886 [07:31] <Wug> you have to share
#887 [07:32] <RickRolled> Wug: ok i will wait
#888 [07:32] <Sidji_> ok i'll try that
#889 [07:32] <Sidji_> thanks
#890 [07:32] <Wug> :tv > RickRolled
#891 [07:32] <WugBot> RickRolled: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#892 [07:32] <WugBot> RickRolled: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /pm user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#893 [07:32] <WugBot> RickRolled: (tv) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#894 [07:33] <RickRolled> WugBot: When i start teamviewer it says An error occuired during the initilazition of TeamViewer. Probably some security software blocks network communication on this computer.
#895 [07:33] <Wug> well
#896 [07:33] <Wug> that probably has something to do with it
#897 [07:34] <Wug> disable any security software you can find
#898 [07:34] <Wug> because something is getting in the way
#899 [07:34] <RickRolled> I think it is because of eset 5 beta
#900 [07:34] <Wug> you can reenable it later once we find out what it is and add an exception
#901 [07:34] <RickRolled> Wug: I will try now thanks.
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#903 [07:37] <Sidji_> back cause I just noticed that in the error report from java, the ModVer and the AppVer are not the same
#904 [07:37] <Sidji_> cant the problem come from there ?
#905 [07:37] <Sidji_> AppVer: 6.0.270.7 ModName: nvoglnt.dll ModVer: 6.14.12.6658
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#907 [07:38] <Wug> not sure if they're supposed to be
#908 [07:38] <Sidji_> dont know too
#909 [07:38] <Sidji_> ok i'll check the graphic driver
#910 [07:38] <Wug> nvoglnt.dll is part of nvidia's opengl system
#911 [07:38] <Sidji_> ok
#912 [07:38] <Sidji_> : )
#913 [07:39] <Sidji_> thanks again
#914 [07:42] <Dylan1> I've got two options: A. Have 30 minutes now on PC or B. Have an extra hour tomorrow on PC. What option should i take? (My mum is having a few drinks with friends now and may not time and tomorrow she won't care hangover...)
#915 [07:42] <Wug> extra hour
#916 [07:43] <Wug> will be more worth it tomorrow
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#918 [07:43] <Wug> and if you pick the 30 mins you'll look back tomorrow and think you're an idiot
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#920 [07:44] <Dylan1> she probly will over time with 30mins and tomorrow she will let me on then be asleep for the whole day
#921 [07:45] <Dylan1> brb with dylanbarberdude as name
#922 [07:45] <Dylan1> gtg for now
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#924 [07:47] <chiefarchon> hello again :P
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#926 [07:48] <chiefarchon> ive just downloaded the Minecraft_Server.exe file and I think its all set up but what do I do to run the game. where is the client side ?
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#928 [07:51] <chiefarchon> please help :P
#929 [07:53] <chiefarchon> hi can anyone help me please
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#931 [07:53] <tyteen4a03> chiefarchon: Yes?
#932 [07:54] <RickRolled> Wug: I turned of every single virus program including windows firewall but same problem again...
#933 [07:54] <chiefarchon> ive just downloaded the Minecraft_Server.exe file and I think its all set up but what do I do to run the game. where is the client side ?
#934 [07:54] <chiefarchon> thanks for helping by the way
#935 [07:55] <tyteen4a03> chiefarchon: Launch minecraft, then type in 127.0.0.1:25565 in the Server IP
#936 [07:55] <Wug> RickRolled: can you get teamviewer working
#937 [07:56] <RickRolled> Wug: No, same errors...
#938 [07:56] <chiefarchon> I have the minecraft_server.exe file is that the one you mean
#939 [07:56] <tyteen4a03> chiefarchon: No, the actual Minecraft game
#940 [07:56] <Wug> RickRolled: then theres something else still blocking it
#941 [07:56] <RickRolled> Wug: Yes :(
#942 [07:56] <tyteen4a03> AKA Minecraft.exe or http://minecraft.net/game
#943 [07:56] <RickRolled> Wug: What it could be ?
#944 [07:56] <Wug> if you cant get teamviewer working I can't help remotely
#945 [07:56] <Wug> I havent the faintest idea
#946 [07:57] <RickRolled> Wug: We can use other remote programs ?
#947 [07:57] <tyteen4a03> RickRolled: TeamViewer is the only cross-platform free remote control solution I believe
#948 [07:57] <chiefarchon> I dont even know what teamviewer is lol
#949 [07:57] <[L]> Lolololol
#950 [07:58] <Wug> if teamviewer wont work because of security software interfering than there's no way to get in with anything else
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#952 [07:59] <RickRolled> Wug: I turned off all security softwares. What the hell ?
#953 [07:59] <Wug> youve completely disabled all of them?
#954 [08:00] <RickRolled> Wug: yes
#955 [08:00] <Wug> then i have no idea
#956 [08:00] <Sardonicus> hi my friends
#957 [08:00] <Wug> try asking the support staff for the software
#958 [08:00] <RickRolled> :( ook
#959 [08:00] <Sardonicus> Hi Wug, my friend
#960 [08:00] <Wug> :/ I'm not magically an expert with every security software ever
#961 [08:00] <Wug> hello Sardonicus
#962 [08:00] <Sardonicus> :D
#963 [08:01] <Wug> do I know you
#964 [08:01] <Sardonicus> we are friends
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#966 [08:01] <Sardonicus> :) so you do
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#974 [08:04] <envidia> When i open minecraft and click login, the minecraft window shuts down and a notepad document which gets placed onto my desktop just has a load of writing in it like "Error" and stuff?
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#977 [08:04] <envidia> When i open minecraft and click login, the minecraft window shuts down and a notepad document which gets placed onto my desktop just has a load of writing in it like "Error" and stuff?
#978 [08:04] <envidia> When i open minecraft and click login, the minecraft window shuts down and a notepad document which gets placed onto my desktop just has a load of writing in it like "Error" and stuff?
#979 [08:05] <Wug> update java
#980 [08:05] <Wug> and dont spam
#981 [08:05] <envidia> I did do last night to (x64) and it didnt work
#982 [08:05] <Wug> does playing in browser work
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#984 [08:06] <envidia> no
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#986 [08:06] <Wug> do you have any old versions of java installed
#987 [08:06] <Wug> if so uninstall all but the latest
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#990 [08:06] <Sidji_> hi again
#991 [08:06] <envidia> i uninstalled every single java thing last night and re-installed the (x64) one that a member on this chat told me to do
#992 [08:07] <envidia> and it isnt working
#993 [08:07] <Sidji_> just updated my nvidia driver
#994 [08:07] <Wug> :tv > envidia
#995 [08:07] <WugBot> envidia: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#996 [08:07] <WugBot> envidia: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /pm user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#997 [08:07] <WugBot> envidia: (tv) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#998 [08:07] <Sidji_> got the same crash
#999 [08:07] <wildfire> when I choose a map and then try to play my screen goes black and then it flashes something and then nothing happens
#1000 [08:07] <Wug> Sidji_: can you do a clean install
#1001 [08:07] <Sidji_> ^^
#1002 [08:07] <Wug> wildfire: force update
#1003 [08:07] <Oerg866> hum
#1004 [08:08] <Oerg866> my laptop is weird
#1005 [08:08] <Oerg866> minecraft on it runs very weird
#1006 [08:08] <wildfire> what is force update?
#1007 [08:08] <wildfire> SOFTWARE UPDATE?
#1008 [08:08] <Oerg866> every tile (like texture) is shifted to the right by 2 pixels
#1009 [08:08] <Wug> ?? forceupdate
#1010 [08:08] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1011 [08:08] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1012 [08:08] <Oerg866> the leftmost 2 pixel columns have something from another texture
#1013 [08:08] <Oerg866> same with menu buttons
#1014 [08:09] <Oerg866> regardless of onboard video or dedicated graphics
#1015 [08:09] <Wug> Oerg866: update the drivers
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#1017 [08:09] <Oerg866> Wug: already did
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#1019 [08:09] <Oerg866> its a brand new laptop on which i updated all drivers before i went on this trip
#1020 [08:09] <Oerg866> and in not very well lighted area, it is shown as transparent, meaning I can see all the caverns but not what i'm looking at
#1021 [08:09] <Oerg866> and in the caverns themselves I see mostly everything
#1022 [08:10] <Wug> downloaded any mods or texture packs?
#1023 [08:11] <Oerg866> Wug: no
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#1025 [08:11] <Oerg866> it's stock, new minecraft install
#1026 [08:11] <Oerg866> 1.8.1
#1027 [08:11] <envidia> Wug, i have team viewer...
#1028 [08:11] <Wug> pm id and password
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#1030 [08:12] <Wug> Oerg866: I have no idea
#1031 [08:12] <Wug> I still suspect graphics drivers though
#1032 [08:12] <Oerg866> Dang. Too bad. Thanks for your help though!
#1033 [08:12] <Wug> did you restart after installing
#1034 [08:12] <Oerg866> Yes
#1035 [08:12] <wildfire> force update does not help
#1036 [08:12] <Oerg866> multiple times
#1037 [08:12] <Oerg866> I don't really get it, the laptop runs very great otherwise
#1038 [08:12] <Wug> what graphics card(s) do you have
#1039 [08:12] <Wug> wildfire: is java up to date
#1040 [08:12] <Oerg866> Onboard is Radeon HD 4200, dedicated is Radeon HD 6470
#1041 [08:13] <wildfire> how do I update java?
#1042 [08:13] <Oerg866> it's the switchable graphics thing.. .in power saving mode it uses onboard
#1043 [08:13] <envidia> Wug, i done it
#1044 [08:13] <Wug> wildfire: what os are you on
#1045 [08:13] <envidia> pm
#1046 [08:13] <Oerg866> I tried both, but same thing
#1047 [08:13] <wildfire> mac os x
#1048 [08:13] <Wug> wildfire: what version of mac osx are you on
#1049 [08:13] <wildfire> 10.5.8
#1050 [08:14] <wildfire> wug?
#1051 [08:14] <Wug> minecraft has issues on 10.5.8
#1052 [08:14] <wildfire> oh crap
#1053 [08:14] <Wug> there isnt anything that can be done except wait for 1.9
#1054 [08:14] <wildfire> can I update it up to 9?
#1055 [08:14] <envidia> wtf wug it wont open now
#1056 [08:15] <envidia> lol
#1057 [08:15] <Wug> which will go back to the old version of opengl and 10.5.8 will run on it again
#1058 [08:15] <Wug> envidia: i'm connected
#1059 [08:15] <envidia> yes minecraft wont open look lol
#1060 [08:15] <wildfire> opengl?
#1061 [08:15] <Wug> hang on
#1062 [08:15] <wildfire> sorry
#1063 [08:15] <Wug> wildfire: its something minecraft depends on
#1064 [08:15] <wildfire> ?
#1065 [08:16] <Oerg866> opengl
#1066 [08:16] <envidia> :j
#1067 [08:16] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#1068 [08:16] <Oerg866> i need to check if my driver has some kind of options for opengl
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#1070 [08:16] <Oerg866> maybe my settings to boost performance of the graphics cards is making an issue
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#1072 [08:16] <Oerg866> Oh damn, I think i know what it is -- I think my laptop has java 1.7 preinstalled D:
#1073 [08:18] <Wug> yeah
#1074 [08:18] <Wug> when I ask what version of java you have installed
#1075 [08:18] <Wug> I mean tell me the version number
#1076 [08:18] <Wug> not that its the latest version
#1077 [08:18] <Wug> because java 6u27 works and 7 does not
#1078 [08:18] <Oerg866> shite
#1079 [08:18] <Oerg866> oh well now I know then
#1080 [08:18] <Oerg866> thanks Wug :)
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#1082 [08:23] <wildfire> still doesn't work :(
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#1085 [08:24] <wildfire> wug can you help me please?
#1086 [08:24] <quantrias> question: is it possible to change your email address that's connected with your minecraft account?
#1087 [08:24] <SinZ> not really
#1088 [08:25] <wildfire> wug helppppp
#1089 [08:25] <wildfire> wug
#1090 [08:25] <wildfire> wug
#1091 [08:26] <quantrias> is there a official email address where I can ask if it is possible to change my email address that's connected to my minecraft account?
#1092 [08:26] <SinZ> support@mojang.com should work
#1093 [08:26] <quantrias> ok, thanks. I will send an email.
#1094 [08:27] <Sardonicus> A new map that allegedly shows the expected path of the Iranian Naval expedition to the U.S has leaked online from an Iranian website, according to MEMRI.
#1095 [08:27] <Sardonicus> The unprecedented route for the Islamic Republic would take Iranian ships through the Suez Canal and into the warm waters of the Caribbean, a total nautical distance of approximately 9000 miles. According to MEMRI, Iranian media sources claim:
#1096 [08:27] <Sardonicus> lol
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#1098 [08:32] <Wug> lol
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#1101 [08:34] <Wug> seems to be fixed
#1102 [08:35] <envidia> will minecraft work now thenn?
#1103 [08:35] <envidia> hopefully? lol
#1104 [08:35] <Wug> should
#1105 [08:35] <envidia> yeah it is, thanks soo much mate
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#1108 [08:52] <slimer> For a month my game has been unable to play - both in my dowloaded version (offline) and online at your site. I keep getting an error report (minecraft has crashed) wich I cannot send forward from your site. I have updated everything (including JAVA) and still can't get the game to play. What's the problem? Looking forward to solutions
#1109 [08:56] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy the text from the error and paste it at www.pastebin.com, then give us the address to it?
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#1111 [09:02] <slimer> unfortunately not... the screen doesn`t react
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#1113 [09:05] <cookie> hey
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#1115 [09:08] <cookie> hello.
#1116 [09:11] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Has it ever worked before?
#1117 [09:12] <slimer> yes it has
#1118 [09:13] <GreyVulpine> Did you use any mods, any HD texture packs?
#1119 [09:14] <slimer> no i didn`t
#1120 [09:14] <GreyVulpine> Did you get any error reports where your offline launcher was located on your computer? Any files named hs_err_pid?
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#1122 [09:16] <yoyoy> i need help!
#1123 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> yoyoy - With?
#1124 [09:16] <slimer> no
#1125 [09:16] <yoyoy> my game isn't running\
#1126 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Do you get an error in the offline/downloaded version?
#1127 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> yoyoy - Could you elaborate?
#1128 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> yoyoy - Has it worked before?
#1129 [09:16] <slimer> yes
#1130 [09:17] <yoyoy> i choose a map my screen goes black and then something flashes then my screen stays black and nothing happens
#1131 [09:17] <yoyoy> no it has not worked before
#1132 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> yoyoy - What operating system are you on?
#1133 [09:17] <yoyoy> 10.5.8
#1134 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> slimer - You don't get any error reports at all?
#1135 [09:18] <yoyoy> nononon
#1136 [09:18] <yoyoy> no
#1137 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> yoyoy - There is a known issue with minecraft and Mac OSX 10.5.8
#1138 [09:18] <slimer> yes i do
#1139 [09:18] <yoyoy> I know I heard of the issue but issue of what?
#1140 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> slimer - I mean, you don't get a file named hs_err_pid that generated at all?
#1141 [09:18] <slimer> no
#1142 [09:19] <GreyVulpine> yoyoy - The issue is that 10.5.8 doesn't support the OpenGL 1.3 that is needed by Minecraft 1.8.1
#1143 [09:19] <yoyoy> so what do I do?
#1144 [09:20] <yoyoy> i hope there's a solution
#1145 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> yoyoy - This issue is fixed in 1.9. You have three options right now. Wait for 1.9 to be officially released (we have no ETA on when this will be), try a buggy pre-release, or try a fan-made solution for 1.8.1
#1146 [09:20] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Have you tried a force update through the launcher's options menu?
#1147 [09:21] <yoyoy> fan made solution pre-release?
#1148 [09:21] <slimer> yes and it`s just the same
#1149 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Then I'm betting it's your video card's drivers. Do you know how to update them?
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#1151 [09:21] <GreyVulpine> yoyoy - I'm sorry?
#1152 [09:21] <slimer> no
#1153 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> yoyoy - The prerelease for 1.9 is made by Mojang. The fan-made solution is not.
#1154 [09:22] <yoyoy> what can I dooooo!!!?
#1155 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> yoyoy - I've told you your three options.
#1156 [09:22] <yoyoy> I am so mad that I cannot play
#1157 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> yoyoy - This issue is fixed in 1.9. You have three options right now. Wait for 1.9 to be officially released (we have no ETA on when this will be), try a buggy pre-release, or try a fan-made solution for 1.8.1
#1158 [09:22] <GreyVulpine> slimer - What operating system are you on?
#1159 [09:22] <yoyoy> what is buggy pre release?
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#1161 [09:23] <tyteen4a03> ??> yoyoy 1.9/prerelease
#1162 [09:23] <tyteen4a03> oh
#1163 [09:23] * tyteen4a03 shrugs
#1163 [09:23] <tyteen4a03> yoyoy: The 1.9 prerelease is a non-official release by Mojang, containing some bugs
#1164 [09:23] <GreyVulpine> A pre-release is one that's done officially by Mojang for people that want to preview the next release of minecraft, before it's put on the launcher's auto-updater. It's a known, buggy, release, that highlights what features will be available in the next patch
#1165 [09:24] <tyteen4a03> ??< prereleasew
#1166 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> it is also one that's unpolished, and contains numerous bugs
#1167 [09:24] <tyteen4a03> ??< prerelease
#1168 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> slimer - What operating system are you on?
#1169 [09:24] <yoyoy> ???????????!!!!!!
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#1171 [09:24] <slimer> XP home edition - do you know how to update video drivers ??
#1172 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> slimer - We can try looking one up for you. Could you give us a dxdiag?
#1173 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> ??> slimer win/dxdiag
#1174 [09:24] <VoxelHead> slimer: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1175 [09:24] <VoxelHead> slimer: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1176 [09:25] * Sardonicus kicks yoyoy's balls full of gay joy
#1176 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> This dxdiag will allow us to see what video card your computer is running
#1177 [09:25] <tyteen4a03> Sardonicus: He's japanese
#1178 [09:25] <Sardonicus> oops so no balls there?
#1179 [09:25] <slimer> how do i find dxdiag??
#1180 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Just follow VoxelHead's instructions
#1181 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> ??> slimer win/dxdiag
#1182 [09:26] <VoxelHead> slimer: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1183 [09:26] <VoxelHead> slimer: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1184 [09:26] <tyteen4a03> |Kiichan|Schala|?
#1185 [09:27] <tyteen4a03> yoyoy: You have 3 options. 1. Wait for 1.9 release, 2. Use the pre release (beta of 1.9), 3. Install a fan-made patch
#1186 [09:27] <tyteen4a03> hope this simplifies stuff
#1187 [09:28] <slimer> thanks for the help guys i will try ;)
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#1193 [09:44] <UsedName> hello guys I have a problem ^^
#1194 [09:44] <UsedName> hope someone can help me ^^
#1195 [09:44] <TheNoodle> What's up UsedName?
#1196 [09:46] <UsedName> I want to buy a gift code for a freind with my bank account .. I allready paid mine a month ago but now when I type in my details into the moneybookers i get this mesage : This bank account is already used
#1197 [09:46] <UsedName> I am not able to get to the page where i can finish my transaction
#1198 [09:47] <UsedName> what am I doing wrong ? sry for bad english ^^
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#1200 [09:49] <UsedName> can anybody help me ?
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#1202 [09:52] <TheNoodle> damn >.>
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#1204 [09:54] <slimer> hi voxelHead. i followed the instructions and i`m asked to paste a link from pastebin into the IRC channel. How do i do that. what is the IRC channel ??
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#1206 [09:54] <SinZ> this is the irc channel
#1207 [09:54] <SinZ> and voxelhead is a bot
#1208 [09:55] <slimer> ok
#1209 [09:55] <slimer> http://pastebin.com/ATj8RMdx
#1210 [09:56] <TheNoodle> You're computer will not be able to run minecraft well.
#1211 [09:56] <TheNoodle> ??> slimer retro
#1212 [09:56] <VoxelHead> slimer: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#1213 [09:56] <VoxelHead> slimer: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#1214 [09:57] <Sardonicus> is that because of bad programming?
#1215 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> No, it's because of the nature of minecraft.
#1216 [09:57] <SinZ> its because minecraft is epic
#1217 [09:57] <Sardonicus> no
#1218 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft is made up of blocks, grouped into chunks. Each chunk is a 16x16x128 blocks. There's 9 chunks loaded around a player at any one time.
#1219 [09:57] <GreyVulpine> That's..
#1220 [09:58] <Sardonicus> I think Minecraft is more lyric than ecpi...
#1221 [09:58] <Sardonicus> epic
#1222 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> !calc 16*16*128*9
#1223 [09:58] <GreyBot> Answer: 294912
#1224 [09:58] <GreyVulpine> Or close to 300 thousand blocks loaded into memory at any one time
#1225 [09:58] <TheNoodle> A computer with 768MB will not be able to run many new games, just saying.
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#1227 [10:02] <Griffrez> Hello
#1228 [10:03] <Griffrez> I got a really weird performance problem: Every time I collect wheat, all tall grass, and maybe other interactions, I get a slowdown spike everytime.
#1229 [10:03] <Griffrez> I think it happens with any block, TBH.
#1230 [10:04] <TheNoodle> What operating system are you using Griffrez?
#1231 [10:04] <Griffrez> Windows 7 x64
#1232 [10:04] <Griffrez> Hey, Noodle
#1233 [10:04] <Griffrez> You were helping me with Ubuntu yesterday
#1234 [10:04] <Griffrez> :)
#1235 [10:04] <TheNoodle> Follow Voxelheads instructions please.
#1236 [10:05] <TheNoodle> And hey :p
#1237 [10:05] <TheNoodle> ??> Griffrez win/dxdiag
#1238 [10:05] <Griffrez> What are VoxelHead's instructions?
#1239 [10:05] <VoxelHead> Griffrez: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1240 [10:05] <VoxelHead> Griffrez: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1241 [10:05] <Griffrez> Oh
#1242 [10:05] <TheNoodle> Those lol
#1243 [10:05] <Griffrez> You could just ask me to paste the DxDiag Diagnoses
#1244 [10:05] <Griffrez> :P
#1245 [10:06] <TheNoodle> Fiiine.
#1246 [10:06] <TheNoodle> :p
#1247 [10:06] <Griffrez> http://pastebin.com/1AaYh45z
#1248 [10:06] <SinZ> not everyone that goes in this channel knows, so we gotta lower the knowledge standard
#1249 [10:06] <Griffrez> I know
#1250 [10:06] <Griffrez> Just messing with TheNoodle.
#1251 [10:06] <TheNoodle> :P
#1252 [10:07] <slimer> ok guys... I know i'm runnig on ancient hardware ;-) But can you please explain to me then, how i was able to run the game perfectly up until about a month ago??
#1253 [10:07] <TheNoodle> Anyway, so it's not your system :P
#1254 [10:07] <TheNoodle> shame
#1255 [10:07] <TheNoodle> :p
#1256 [10:07] <Griffrez> xD
#1257 [10:07] <Griffrez> I'll try to reformat xD
#1258 [10:07] <Griffrez> And see
#1259 [10:07] <Griffrez> If it fixes my problem
#1260 [10:07] <TheNoodle> You could try reinstalling java :p
#1261 [10:07] <Griffrez> I did that like, a billion times
#1262 [10:07] <Griffrez> But I'll try again
#1263 [10:07] * TheNoodle looks at voxelhead
#1263 [10:07] <SinZ> you could live with it
#1264 [10:07] <Griffrez> SinZ, I could
#1265 [10:07] <Griffrez> But it's so damn frustrating
#1266 [10:07] <Griffrez> xD
#1267 [10:07] * TheNoodle stabs voxelhead in the eye
#1267 [10:08] <Griffrez> I'm like
#1268 [10:08] <GreyVulpine> slimer - 1.8.1 was updated with increased graphical requirements. More specifically, 1.8.1 did Open1.3 calls, instead of 1.1
#1269 [10:08] <Griffrez> "Going to get some wheat"
#1270 [10:08] <Griffrez> And then, right on the first plant *boom*... Lag spike
#1271 [10:08] <Griffrez> -.-
#1272 [10:08] <Griffrez> I get 100 FPS constant
#1273 [10:09] <Griffrez> So... not a requirement problem
#1274 [10:09] <Griffrez> I use OptiFine, but I tried without
#1275 [10:09] <Griffrez> And in a billion other circumstances... all happened it.
#1276 [10:09] <Griffrez> I tried Linux, but I had a hard time installing Java, so I gave up.
#1277 [10:09] <Griffrez> BTW
#1278 [10:09] <Griffrez> When I install
#1279 [10:09] <Griffrez> Java
#1280 [10:10] <Griffrez> People say that JDK gives a small performance boost.
#1281 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> It does not.
#1282 [10:10] <Griffrez> Sitll
#1283 [10:10] <Griffrez> Still*
#1284 [10:10] <Griffrez> 6 or 7?
#1285 [10:10] <GreyVulpine> The only difference between the JDK and the JRE, is that the JDK is for people who want to program in java, while the JRE is only needed to run java apps
#1286 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> We recommend Java 6, as 7 has been known to cause problems
#1287 [10:11] <Griffrez> I got a 64 bit system
#1288 [10:11] <Griffrez> Should I get 32 and 64 Java, just 32 or just 64?
#1289 [10:12] <slimer> fuck
#1290 [10:12] * AuBot kicked slimer from #minecrafthelp (Reason: limer :Please keep it civil.)
#1291 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> It depends on what OS you're using. If you've got a 64 bit operating system, get the 64 bit java.
#1292 [10:12] <Griffrez> But
#1293 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> If you're using a 32 bit browser, you'll need to install 32 bit java as well
#1294 [10:12] <Griffrez> Oh
#1295 [10:12] <Griffrez> OK
#1296 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> The two can be installed on top of each other.
#1297 [10:12] <Griffrez> As long as they're in different directories. :P
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#1303 [10:13] <Griffrez> Log off explosion?
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#1305 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> 64 bit windows, installs 64 bit programs by default in c:\program files\ and 32 bit programs in c:\program files (x86)
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#1307 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> No, just a netsplit
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#1309 [10:13] <GreyVulpine> Happens all the time. Just IRC at work
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#1311 [10:14] <Griffrez> BRB
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#1315 [10:29] <Thunder7102> Can enemies go through walls?
#1316 [10:29] <Thunder7102> *doors
#1317 [10:30] <SinZ> yes, thats why doors can shut
#1318 [10:30] <Thunder7102> I mean, can they open the doors?
#1319 [10:30] <SinZ> no
#1320 [10:30] <SinZ> not yet
#1321 [10:30] <Thunder7102> Because, I have a bed in my castle and enemies keep waking me up to attack. There is no darkness in my house
#1322 [10:31] <SinZ> your bed is next to the wall, and the bed acts abit like a mob spawner
#1323 [10:31] <Thunder7102> My bed acts like a mob spawner? Since when did this start happeneing?
#1324 [10:32] <Thunder7102> This did not start until I added double doors in front of my castle.
#1325 [10:32] <SinZ> beds spawn mobs when you sleep, to wake you up, and if the bed can spawn the mob anywhere within a curtain range, it will wake you up
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#1327 [10:33] <Thunder7102> So if I surround my bed with stone, would it fix it?
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#1332 [11:01] <Wug> GreyVulpine: want to test something
#1333 [11:01] <mariettagecko> uh oh.
#1334 [11:01] <mariettagecko> Famous last words.
#1335 [11:01] * Wug draws The Implement
#1335 [11:01] <TheNoodle> Last time he did this he was STEALING minecraft accounts the HACKER
#1336 [11:01] <TheNoodle> :P
#1337 [11:02] <Wug> TheNoodle: I STILL AM BECAUSE IM A HORRIBLE PERSON
#1338 [11:02] <Wug> do you want to be the subject of the demo?
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#1340 [11:02] <TheNoodle> sure
#1341 [11:02] <Wug> this is a learning experience
#1342 [11:02] <Wug> your minecraft account is "TheNoodle", right?
#1343 [11:02] <Wug> case sensitive?
#1344 [11:02] <TheNoodle> The_Noodle
#1345 [11:03] <TheNoodle> And yes.
#1346 [11:03] <deuce> hey i cant get minecraft to let me play offline
#1347 [11:03] <mariettagecko> Oh, my.
#1348 [11:03] <Wug> alright, connect to 129.21.137.89
#1349 [11:03] <deuce> me?
#1350 [11:03] <Wug> no, TheNoodle
#1351 [11:03] <mariettagecko> I think I'm frightened now.
#1352 [11:03] <RobinJ24> deuce do you have a pirate version?
#1353 [11:03] <deuce> ok
#1354 [11:03] <deuce> ? im new to miknecraft
#1355 [11:03] <deuce> i have no idead wut tht is
#1356 [11:03] <RobinJ24> what's your username
#1357 [11:03] <RobinJ24> ?
#1358 [11:03] <Wug> TheNoodle: you'll time out
#1359 [11:03] <mariettagecko> Deuce, what happens when you try?
#1360 [11:04] <Wug> but in the mean time
#1361 [11:04] <deuce> my User name for mine craft is CLeaRDeuce
#1362 [11:04] <Wug> I'm now happily trotting along on my server with your account.
#1363 [11:04] <RobinJ24> I think that error is common with pirate version..
#1364 [11:04] <RobinJ24> !paid CLeaRDeuce
#1365 [11:04] <RobinJ24> yeah deuce you have to buy it
#1366 [11:04] <deuce> ok
#1367 [11:05] <mariettagecko> Deuce, also, you need to connect successfully once, *THEN* you can play offline.
#1368 [11:05] <deuce> how do i connect first
#1369 [11:06] <mariettagecko> To start with, you get a paid account.
#1370 [11:07] <RobinJ24> To get a paid account you buy it using money
#1371 [11:07] <deuce> yea i know
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#1373 [11:07] <mariettagecko> Gee, Robin, you mean I can't get a paid account by exchanging chickens for one?
#1374 [11:07] <RobinJ24> Nope
#1375 [11:07] <mariettagecko> (sorry, had to be done)
#1376 [11:08] <RobinJ24> Well it depends
#1377 [11:08] <RobinJ24> A redneck might accept that
#1378 [11:08] <mariettagecko> Ok, fine... then a haunch of venison
#1379 [11:09] <mariettagecko> But that's my final offer
#1380 [11:09] <TheNoodle> So Wug, Have you gotten my session id yet? :P
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#1382 [11:09] <Wug> TheNoodle: I never needed it
#1383 [11:09] <Wug> I've been running around on my server as you
#1384 [11:09] <TheNoodle> That's what I was asking, was that what the connection was for?
#1385 [11:10] <Wug> yeah
#1386 [11:10] <TheNoodle> ahk
#1387 [11:10] <Wug> the advantage of this exploit over the other one is that I dont have to get a session id
#1388 [11:10] <Wug> you'd just have to connect to the cracked server
#1389 [11:10] <TheNoodle> Which is always nice.
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#1391 [11:11] <mariettagecko> I take it you are going to report this one to Mojang?
#1392 [11:11] <Wug> its a well known exploit
#1393 [11:11] <Wug> all of these are
#1394 [11:11] <mariettagecko> ahh
#1395 [11:11] <mariettagecko> ok
#1396 [11:11] <Wug> http://129.21.137.89/minecraft/2011-10-07_11.11.22.png
#1397 [11:12] <TheNoodle> nice
#1398 [11:12] <Wug> fill everything in and hit ready, it changes to waiting for incoming connections and waits for someone to try to connect, then redirects the login at the specified server and hijacks the session
#1399 [11:13] <RobinJ24> Wug: What's that=
#1400 [11:13] <RobinJ24> ?
#1401 [11:13] <Wug> that's me being an evil bastard
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#1403 [11:13] <Wug> for science of course
#1404 [11:13] <mariettagecko> SCIENCE!!!
#1405 [11:14] <mariettagecko> Right...
#1406 [11:14] <mariettagecko> Move along, nothing to see here.
#1407 [11:15] <TheNoodle> Wug, revoice for science?
#1408 [11:15] <TheNoodle> ;)
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#1410 [11:16] <tyteen4a03> Wug: wait what
#1411 [11:18] <Wug> tyteen4a03: what wait what?
#1412 [11:18] <tyteen4a03> session stealing?
#1413 [11:19] <Wug> yeah. its cool
#1414 [11:19] <Wug> dangerous though
#1415 [11:19] <Wug> wouldnt want to let anyone get a hold of this
#1416 [11:19] <TheNoodle> Well since a session id is sent from a client through to the server and then on to the auth servers wug is stopping it and redirecting it to his client which then uses it as its own session id.
#1417 [11:19] <Wug> its not though
#1418 [11:19] <TheNoodle> hmm?
#1419 [11:19] <tyteen4a03> did Notch accidentally coded it in?
#1420 [11:20] <Wug> if you get the session id, you can use it until they login again and it changes
#1421 [11:20] <Wug> but the session key isnt ever sent by the client
#1422 [11:20] <Wug> its sent when you login by the auth servers, to you
#1423 [11:21] <Wug> when you connect to a server, the server generates a long random number, and sends it to you and to the auth server
#1424 [11:21] <tyteen4a03> just a thought, maybe we should take this to the breakroom
#1425 [11:21] <Wug> no, wait, it only sends it to the auth server
#1426 [11:21] <Wug> yeah ok
#1427 [11:23] <mariettagecko> the breakroom?
#1428 [11:23] <TheNoodle> it's got coffee and shit.
#1429 [11:23] <Ryladine> lol
#1430 [11:23] <mariettagecko> I sure hope it doesn't have shit.
#1431 [11:23] <mariettagecko> I mean, that would stink.
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#1433 [11:24] <TheNoodle> fiiine.
#1434 [11:25] <TheNoodle> It's got coffee and biscuts and stuff.
#1435 [11:25] <TheNoodle> :P
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#1437 [11:25] <mariettagecko> Donuts?
#1438 [11:25] * TheNoodle looks into the breakroom
#1438 [11:25] <TheNoodle> Nope, no donuts today.
#1439 [11:26] <mariettagecko> Damn
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#1443 [11:33] <skippydippy> hellos
#1444 [11:34] <skippydippy> anyone got a sec to give some helps?
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#1448 [11:37] <Zerofrosdting> Hello?
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#1450 [11:41] <TheNoodle> Hello Zerofrosdting.
#1451 [11:41] <TheNoodle> wiat, thanks for the revoice wug.
#1452 [11:42] <TheNoodle> *wait
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#1454 [11:46] <Thunder7102> Why is it not letting me plant sugar cane? I have 9 of them and I am trying to plant it. 3x3 block is touching water.
#1455 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> sugar cane needs to be planted adjacent to a water block
#1456 [11:47] <Thunder7102> It is next to a water block. That is why I am confused.
#1457 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Got a screenshot?
#1458 [11:49] <Thunder7102> one sec, I am uploading now
#1459 [11:49] <Thunder7102> http://i54.tinypic.com/zy6mxl.png
#1460 [11:51] <TheNoodle> Don't till the land.
#1461 [11:51] <TheNoodle> Or plough or whatever it's called.
#1462 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, don't use the hoe on the land.
#1463 [11:51] <Thunder7102> oh. Can I just replace dirt blocks and do it?
#1464 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Or just walk on top of it
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#1466 [11:53] <zerofrosting> hello
#1467 [11:53] * GreyVulpine waves
#1467 [11:53] <zerofrosting> hai XD
#1468 [11:53] <Thunder7102> oh ok, it works. Thanks
#1469 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> zerofrosting - What's the issue?
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#1471 [11:54] <TheNoodle> ^_^
#1472 [11:54] <zerofrosting> I don't know much about irc so.. Hi uhh lets see
#1473 [11:54] <zerofrosting> So I bought a server from a website and it was going fine for me and my 2 friends. Then i messed around with it and thought I broke the server
#1474 [11:54] <zerofrosting> Well.. as it turns out I somehow broke our minecraft
#1475 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Hmm? What happens exactly?
#1476 [11:55] <Thunder7102> aww, I can't use bonemeal on sugarcane. :P
#1477 [11:55] <zerofrosting> Now anytime I join a muliplayer server ( or them ) all I do is spawn and fall into darkness that looks like stars and then a java error kicks me from the server
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#1479 [11:56] <zerofrosting> Or if I join someone elses server it allows me to move around and see about... maybe 10x10 blocks and everthing else looks like void and if i go into the void i fall like my own server untill it kicks me
#1480 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> zerofrosting - Could you post the error to pastebin.com if it's long, and share with us the URL?
#1481 [11:56] <zerofrosting> pastebin
#1482 [11:56] <zerofrosting> brb
#1483 [11:58] <skippydippy> anyone able to help me with installing mods?
#1484 [11:58] <TheNoodle> ?? mods
#1485 [11:58] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#1486 [11:58] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
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#1488 [11:59] <RobinJ24> Oooh a voice guy
#1489 [11:59] <RobinJ24> Everyone bow
#1490 [11:59] <TheNoodle> Hey lemon.
#1491 [11:59] <TheNoodle> :P
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#1493 [11:59] <zerofrosting> So just type in the error code to pastebin,com and?
#1494 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> Press submit. Look at your address bar in your browser, and give us the URL
#1495 [11:59] <TheNoodle> Press submit, it will take you to another page. Copy the url of that page into this channel.
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#1497 [12:01] <zerofrosting> http://pastebin.com/EDUy0dA1
#1498 [12:02] <zerofrosting> It gives me this error after falling into the darkness for about 20 seconds
#1499 [12:02] <zerofrosting> Its like... my game wont create a world
#1500 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> What firewall or security software do you run?
#1501 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Also, this happens on every server?
#1502 [12:02] <zerofrosting> I can see people on other servers standing in the blue but I cant walk into it
#1503 [12:03] <zerofrosting> Yes if I join MY server nothing spawns . I spawn into the sky and i start falling from blue to darkness with little dots like stars
#1504 [12:03] <skippydippy> ive followed a tutorial and instructions to install buildcraft but its just appearing in game :\
#1505 [12:03] <zerofrosting> other peoples servers I see like 10x10 of the actual map then all blue
#1506 [12:03] <zerofrosting> I;ve no firewall on my computer
#1507 [12:03] <zerofrosting> and windows firewall is always disabled
#1508 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> You're absolutely sure?
#1509 [12:04] <zerofrosting> very sure. We do alot of ad hoc ( military barx ) and we all have our firewalls off
#1510 [12:04] <zerofrosting> Just rechecked windows firewall and its disabled.
#1511 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> Do you run any sort of security software at all? Zonealarm/mcafee/comodo, among others are notorious for this type of behavior
#1512 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> If it's not that, have you done a full and complete reinstall of the minecraft files local on your computer?
#1513 [12:05] <zerofrosting> No sir. its a new computer and I've deleted all things like that to make sure we could connect to each other
#1514 [12:05] <zerofrosting> And i have followed all the wiki helps. deleted .minecraft from roaming and did a forced update
#1515 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> How do you connect to the internet?
#1516 [12:06] <zerofrosting> It worked fine for like 2 days.
#1517 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> Are you on a spotty connection?
#1518 [12:06] <zerofrosting> through wireless
#1519 [12:06] <zerofrosting> The connection resets ever 4 hours other than that we play other online games just fine.
#1520 [12:06] <zerofrosting> League of legends and such
#1521 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> Would it be possible for you to connect via ethernet, or a more dependable connection?
#1522 [12:07] <zerofrosting> I am on a military installation all we are offerd here is a wireless connection
#1523 [12:08] <zerofrosting> I did a google search on the provider and minecraft and there does not seem to be any problems listed
#1524 [12:08] <zerofrosting> It worked for about 2 days
#1525 [12:08] <zerofrosting> then I tryed to add a mod to the server I bought
#1526 [12:08] <zerofrosting> and when i tryed to connect to it, it started happening
#1527 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> The behavior you're describing is very common for people who run an aggressive firewall, or their connection is somewhat spotty.
#1528 [12:09] <zerofrosting> at first I thought it was my server because it was me and my friend. Then I had them do a full reset and all there admins could connect fine period. then i tryed someone elses server and poof
#1529 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> The data stream to and from a minecraft server needs to be very dependable, or else it'll drop you pretty quickly. Without a constant stream of data, your client won't load all the chunk data necessary to reconstruct the world on your end
#1530 [12:10] <GreyVulpine> Hence, why you're falling into the void, or you see blue all the time
#1531 [12:10] <zerofrosting> I thought that was it but Its just that It worked for a few days and now it just never works
#1532 [12:10] <zerofrosting> ( i figured it was internet when single player does not have this problem)
#1533 [12:11] <GreyVulpine> Wireless isn't exactly the most dependable type of connection. I'm leaning towards that.
#1534 [12:12] <zerofrosting> So not much I can do about it to fix it huh?
#1535 [12:12] <zerofrosting> guess I was just lucky it worked while it did
#1536 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> You can try creating the server yourself, on a spare computer, and host a more LAN-like server if your buddies are local to you.
#1537 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Would eliminate any spotty connection problems from the wireless.
#1538 [12:13] <zerofrosting> I tryed to do this via ad hoc with the server program from minecraft webpage but no matter what we tryed he just could not connect to it
#1539 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> What IP address were you all using to try and connect?
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#1542 [12:14] <kylee> hi does any one no how to fix a black screen crash
#1543 [12:14] <zerofrosting> at first we tryed to use mine that i got from whatsmyip
#1544 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Did it work before?
#1545 [12:14] <zerofrosting> then we tryed hamachi
#1546 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> zerofrosting - Try using the local IP address of the computer, not your public one. Not sure what the military base you're at is set up like....
#1547 [12:15] <kylee> it did yestoday and every othere day but i woke up this morning and it give me a crash screen
#1548 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Did you attempt to install any mods, or HD texture packs before this started happening?
#1549 [12:16] <kylee> no
#1550 [12:16] <kylee> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 07/10/11 17:
#1551 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Please copy that entire report, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#1552 [12:17] <RobinJ24> I never got what a HD texture pack is..
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#1554 [12:17] <RobinJ24> what's the difference between that and a normal texture pack?
#1555 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft normally supports a 16x16 texture pack, but it can render 32x, 64x, and 128x texture packs, if you mod it
#1556 [12:18] <RobinJ24> can I install them like a normal texture pack?
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#1558 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> RobinJ24 - Yes and no.
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#1560 [12:19] <zerofrosting> Well, I redownloaded and made a local server and it worked for me to join
#1561 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> RobinJ24 - You place the texture pack in the texturepacks folder as normal, but you need to mod minecraft with an HD fix, or a launcher like mcpatcher/spout/whatever, so that minecraft knows how to reference the higher-res texture pic
#1562 [12:19] <zerofrosting> so it is internet issues
#1563 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> zerofrosting - Looks like it then.
#1564 [12:20] <zerofrosting> Now i will see if i can figure out how to get him to join it
#1565 [12:20] <RobinJ24> ahh..I have spout so I wouldn't need to download anything other than the texture pack?
#1566 [12:20] <kylee> GreyVulpine-heres the url http://pastebin.com/bphLATKy
#1567 [12:21] <neeedhelp234> hi I want to make anown texturepack but I DONT KNOW HOW TO findn the deutfault minecraft texture
#1568 [12:22] <kylee> GreyVulpine - heres the url http://pastebin.com/bphLATKy
#1569 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> RobinJ24 - I don't use spout, wouldn't know how to set it up, but I gather it's just an option somewhere to be able to load the custom texture pack from it. You can find instructions for it whereever you downloaded it
#1570 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Yes, give me one moment
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#1572 [12:22] <zerofrosting> I am still having issues getting him to connect
#1573 [12:22] <TheNoodle> RobinJ24, spout comes preinstalled with the hd texture pack fix, just download the launcher like you would minecraft from minecraft.net
#1574 [12:23] <zerofrosting> I may be doing it wrong I am giving him the ip I have from using cmd then ipconfig
#1575 [12:23] <zerofrosting> ill try the public one
#1576 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> zerofrosting - That shuold be the right one
#1577 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> the one you're getting from ipconfig
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#1579 [12:23] <neeedhelp234> hi I want to make anown texturepack but I DONT KNOW HOW TO findn the deutfault minecraft texture
#1580 [12:23] <kylee> zerofrosting - give him the ip from hitamchi if ur using that thats the problem i had
#1581 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> neeedhelp234 - Open up .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar in your compression program of coice
#1582 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> you'll see texture.png in there, that's the default one
#1583 [12:24] <zerofrosting> My public and my cmd one are the same
#1584 [12:24] <zerofrosting> ..
#1585 [12:24] <kylee> oo is he in ur net work
#1586 [12:24] <zerofrosting> We both use the same wireless network here at the base
#1587 [12:24] <neeedhelp234> GreyVulpine ok tnx
#1588 [12:25] <mariettagecko> ?? Fubar/hamachi
#1589 [12:25] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1590 [12:25] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1591 [12:25] <mariettagecko> no hamachi!
#1592 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Could you launch minecraft, in the launcher's options menu, try doing a force update
#1593 [12:25] <mariettagecko> Bad hamachi!
#1594 [12:25] <zerofrosting> We are not using hamachi
#1595 [12:25] <kylee> or if he is try to go to ur firewalls and allow java all of them and minecraft through put them to public
#1596 [12:25] <mariettagecko> Just saying.
#1597 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, you'll need to try and uninstall and reinstall java.
#1598 [12:25] <kylee> ok
#1599 [12:25] <zerofrosting> I just crated a server using the program on minecraft
#1600 [12:26] <zerofrosting> Do I need to do something to allow others to join my server?
#1601 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> zerofrosting - What does ipconfig say your ip address is?
#1602 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> zerofrosting - Shouldn't need to, if your firewall/security software is down
#1603 [12:26] <kylee> GreyVulpine - no it just crashes again
#1604 [12:26] <zerofrosting> 65.124.23.69
#1605 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> zerofrosting - And the default gateway? Check that he's got the same gateway address
#1606 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> kylee - If that doesn't work, you'll need to try and uninstall and reinstall java.
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#1608 [12:27] <zerofrosting> 65.124.16.1 what do i need to do with my gateway
#1609 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> See that your friend has the same gateway address on his computer..
#1610 [12:28] <kylee> what so delte it and reinstall it or uninstall the whole thing
#1611 [12:28] <zerofrosting> checking
#1612 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Uninstall java completely, and reinstall it from java.com
#1613 [12:29] <zerofrosting> It is infact the same
#1614 [12:30] <kylee> ???
#1615 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, then you two should be able to connect just fine..
#1616 [12:30] <zerofrosting> so to connect to my via direct connect
#1617 [12:30] <zerofrosting> 65.124.23.69:25565
#1618 [12:30] <kylee> oo ok
#1619 [12:30] <zerofrosting> right?
#1620 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Since you're using the default port, you can just use 65.124.23.69. The :25565 is implied
#1621 [12:32] <zerofrosting> It says failed to connect to server connection timed out
#1622 [12:32] <zerofrosting> I checked and I dont have a firewall on at all
#1623 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> On the same computer, are you able to connect to 127.0.0.1?
#1624 [12:32] <zerofrosting> but i can connect typing localhost into my adress
#1625 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> Ah, well, that answers that question
#1626 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Any chance you have access to a hub or a switch that you can all just plug into locally?
#1627 [12:33] <zerofrosting> hm
#1628 [12:33] <zerofrosting> it gives me an error
#1629 [12:33] <zerofrosting> if i try 65.124.23.69
#1630 [12:34] <zerofrosting> nevermind it stoped and let me in
#1631 [12:35] <kylee> GreyVulpine - nope ive uninstalled java completly and reinstalled it from java .com and it still doesent work
#1632 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> zerofrosting - Just tried connecting to you, able to connect, but your connection sucks.
#1633 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Doing the whole falling into the void
#1634 [12:36] <zerofrosting> lol
#1635 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Then the last thing is to update your video drivers
#1636 [12:36] <zerofrosting> We will use ad hoc or just connect using my wireless router ( non internet )
#1637 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Do you know how to do that?
#1638 [12:37] <VoxelHead> Routerless wire.
#1639 [12:37] <zerofrosting> We just need to be able to connect
#1640 [12:37] <zerofrosting> do you think it might because we use the same internet in the same barx?
#1641 [12:38] <kylee> no
#1642 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> No, I think it's just the general wireless connection in your area is crap.
#1643 [12:38] <zerofrosting> But we cant even connect usuing adhoc lol
#1644 [12:38] <kylee> so how i do it
#1645 [12:38] <zerofrosting> Hm
#1646 [12:38] <zerofrosting> Maybe ill try using my router
#1647 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Either it's overloaded, or it's a weak signal, or something's affecting the quality of the connection, zerofrosting
#1648 [12:38] <zerofrosting> overloaded
#1649 [12:38] <zerofrosting> the server itself?
#1650 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> No, the connection
#1651 [12:39] <zerofrosting> yeah its an off day
#1652 [12:39] <zerofrosting> and theres like 94 people connected to it right now lol
#1653 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Give us a dxdiag?
#1654 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> zerofrosting - Very likely it..
#1655 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> ??> kylee win/dxdiag
#1656 [12:39] <VoxelHead> kylee: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1657 [12:39] <VoxelHead> kylee: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1658 [12:39] <zerofrosting> but even last night when it was pretty much just us on it it was doing the same
#1659 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> Crappy wireless connection then..
#1660 [12:40] <kylee> im on it what now
#1661 [12:40] <zerofrosting> the downloads not bad around 600Kb or so during non peek
#1662 [12:40] <zerofrosting> maybe the uploads shitty
#1663 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> If you're running a server, you'll need to have a pretty decent upload pipe, about 100Kbs/player or so
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#1665 [12:41] <Forebinder> Hey
#1666 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Once you follow the directions, you'll provide us with a pastebin link
#1667 [12:41] <zerofrosting> So using a non internet wireless router ( were in the same room) should eliminated that problem
#1668 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - Hi
#1669 [12:41] <Forebinder> Anyone able to help me out with minecraft problem
#1670 [12:41] <Forebinder> its a odd'un
#1671 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> zerofrosting - You'll still need access to the internet to authenticate your username, but after that, a LAN server shouldn't have that problem
#1672 [12:42] <kylee> greyvulpin - wat?
#1673 [12:42] <zerofrosting> So start minecraft online then disconnect and join the lan server? Ill try it
#1674 [12:42] <Forebinder> Anyone? ;_:
#1675 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - If you're relying on our telepathy powers to determine your problem, I sadly must inform you that our resident psychic is off-duty right now
#1676 [12:42] <mariettagecko> GreyVulpine: Technically, they can configure the server for offline mode to not require the online, right?
#1677 [12:42] <VoxelHead> doootie dootie dooootie dootie
#1678 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> mariettagecko - It still requires an online connect to at least authenticate the username, otherwise players will connect to a server with "player"
#1679 [12:43] <mariettagecko> ahhh
#1680 [12:43] <mariettagecko> Yeah, that's no good.
#1681 [12:43] <kylee> http://pastebin.com/bphLATKy
#1682 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> mariettagecko - And we all know what happens when multiple people try to connect with "player"
#1683 [12:43] <Forebinder> Alright, So my java is up to date and working. When i start minecraft Classic it works fine, When i start minecraft beta 1.8.1 it gets stuck on "done loading"(90%) and freezes
#1684 [12:43] <mariettagecko> Actually, I don't know, but I can imagine that would get all sorts of confusing.
#1685 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Please follow VoxelHead's instrucitons
#1686 [12:43] <Forebinder> Nvidia drivers up to date
#1687 [12:43] <kylee> how do i update them
#1688 [12:44] <Forebinder> Litrally everything works other than it
#1689 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> mariettagecko - One "player" joins. Another "player" joins, and kicks the first "player" off the server.
#1690 [12:44] <mariettagecko> Ahhh,
#1691 [12:44] <mariettagecko> ok
#1692 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> Repeat as necessary
#1693 [12:44] <kylee> ive muted everyone
#1694 [12:44] <Forebinder> Any ideas?
#1695 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Please follow VoxelHead's instructions:
#1696 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> ??> kylee win/dxdiag
#1697 [12:44] <VoxelHead> kylee: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1698 [12:44] <VoxelHead> kylee: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#1700 [12:44] <Forebinder> IF anyone can help me out with this problem pm me plx :(
#1701 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - Using the launcher, please do a Force Update through the launcher's options menu
#1702 [12:45] <mariettagecko> GreyVulpine: you stole my thunder.
#1703 [12:45] <mariettagecko> I was about to say that.
#1704 [12:45] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1704 [12:45] <Forebinder> Force update doesnt work
#1705 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> I have a habit of ninja'ing
#1706 [12:45] <Forebinder> Doesnt fix the problem
#1707 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - Has minecraft beta ever worked before on this computer?
#1708 [12:45] <Forebinder> yes
#1709 [12:45] <kylee> yh i no but what file do u mean by the file u justed saved
#1710 [12:45] <Forebinder> perfectly
#1711 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - what operating system?
#1712 [12:46] <Forebinder> Windows 7 Ultimate x64
#1713 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Did you launch Dxdiag?
#1714 [12:46] <mariettagecko> ...
#1715 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - Please go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1716 [12:46] <kylee> yes
#1717 [12:46] <kylee> i did
#1718 [12:46] <mariettagecko> Kylee, I'm sorry, but your last comment didn't make sense.
#1719 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - Find the .minecraft folder. Delete everything inside except for saves
#1720 [12:46] <Forebinder> Delete .minecraft?
#1721 [12:46] <Forebinder> Done
#1722 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - Launch minecraft?
#1723 [12:46] <Forebinder> exe?
#1724 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - Yes
#1725 [12:47] <Forebinder> Launcher -> "cannot connect to minecraft.net
#1726 [12:47] <mariettagecko> Forebinder: check your internet connection.
#1727 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> kylee - At the dxdiag console, do you see a button labeled "save all information"? Please press that and save the file on the desktop
#1728 [12:47] <Forebinder> Lol.. its fine your talking to me through it
#1729 [12:47] <kylee> oo yes ive done that
#1730 [12:47] <Thrae> Forebinder: Re-download the launcher from http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1731 [12:48] <mariettagecko> Forebinder: doh! Of course it is. I'm being stupid again.
#1732 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Did you then open up the file on your desktop?
#1733 [12:48] <kylee> yes
#1734 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - Using your browser, are you able to pull up the page from https://login.minecraft.net ? Should say "Bad login" if you can
#1735 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Please copy everything in that file, go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it there
#1736 [12:49] <Forebinder> Ye grey bad login
#1737 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Then give us the address to it
#1738 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - Running any security software?
#1739 [12:49] <Forebinder> Avast.
#1740 [12:49] <Thrae> That includes Anti-Virus
#1741 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - Any AV suites? Any firewall software?
#1742 [12:49] <kylee> done that
#1743 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - The suite, or the free version?
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#1745 [12:50] <Forebinder> Antivirus - off, firewall - off
#1746 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> kylee - What is the address in your browser's address bar, after you submitted it?
#1747 [12:50] <kylee> http://pastebin.com/VbxpKpPk
#1748 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - You said it worked before on the computer. Did you happen to change usernames on windows at all?
#1749 [12:50] <Forebinder> Any other ideas?
#1750 [12:50] <Forebinder> Nope.
#1751 [12:51] <Forebinder> Well kinda
#1752 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> "kinda"?
#1753 [12:51] <Forebinder> The SSD i had working failed on me so i bought a new SSD
#1754 [12:51] <Forebinder> Reinstalled Windows
#1755 [12:51] <Forebinder> and obviously have sorted all drivers since
#1756 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> Did you make a username that contained a ! in it?
#1757 [12:51] <kylee> me ?
#1758 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> No, Forebinder.
#1759 [12:51] <Forebinder> Computer name is still the same
#1760 [12:51] <kylee> ookk
#1761 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> kylee - One moment
#1762 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - What is the windows username you chose?
#1763 [12:52] <Forebinder> Nope nothing like that in my username
#1764 [12:52] <VajraX> Hi, all, I have a more serious problem this time...
#1765 [12:52] <Forebinder> its called "Clickme" lol
#1766 [12:52] <VajraX> Minecraft keeps freezing at the title screen...
#1767 [12:52] <VajraX> and I have a hunch at what did it
#1768 [12:52] <Forebinder> just out of curiosity. If theres a "!" why would it mess up?
#1769 [12:52] <Forebinder> cause of the javabeans delimiters and variables?
#1770 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> Forebinder - Programming error. ! is a programming symbol. Having a ! in the windows username would transfer to the windows user profile's foldername...
#1771 [12:53] <Forebinder> ye...
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#1773 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> And minecraft calls its files from c:\users\yourname!\application data\.minecraft
#1774 [12:53] <VajraX> Has 1.9 prerelease made anyone's copy of the client lag uncontrollably and freeze?
#1775 [12:54] <VajraX> besides mine, that is
#1776 [12:54] <kylee> grey have u got any more surgestions ?
#1777 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> VajraX - We don't support 1.9 prereleases
#1778 [12:54] <TotoGroline> Hey everyone ! I only wanted to know if Minecraft 1.8 runs on Mac ?
#1779 [12:54] <VajraX> well, that's the thing
#1780 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> kylee - Yes, download and install updated video drivers from here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20188&ProdId=3048&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20Home%20Premium%2C%2032-bit%20version*&DownloadType=Drivers
#1781 [12:54] <VajraX> I decided I *didn't* want it
#1782 [12:54] <TotoGroline> Last time I came, it didn't work ...
#1783 [12:54] <VajraX> so I forced an update to remove it
#1784 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> TotoGroline - It doesn't work on OS X version 10.5.8
#1785 [12:54] <VajraX> and now it's freezing at the title screen, sometimes at the Mojang screen
#1786 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to wait for 1.9 to be released for that issue to be addressed TotoGroline
#1787 [12:55] <TotoGroline> Ok !
#1788 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> VajraX - Did you try removing everything from .minecraft except for saves, and trying again?
#1789 [12:55] <VajraX> No, I guess I could try that
#1790 [12:55] <TotoGroline> But must I install Lion or is there an another alternative ?
#1791 [12:56] <Thrae> I think it's also a Windows NTFS design error -- they allow !, but that can easily trip up I/O libs that aren't provided by Microsoft themselves for the latest NTFS version
#1792 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> TotoGroline - I'd wait for 1.9 to be released
#1793 [12:56] <TotoGroline> okay, that's what I expected.
#1794 [12:56] <TotoGroline> And when will the 1.9 be released ?
#1795 [12:57] <mariettagecko> TotoGroline: I bet you could install some flavor of linux on your system instead of macos, but I don't know that you would really want to do that.
#1796 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> TotoGroline - We have no ETA on that
#1797 [12:57] <kylee> g2g
#1798 [12:57] <VajraX> So, I take EVERYTHING out of .minecraft, minus saves?
#1799 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Right
#1800 [12:58] <VajraX> alright, booting up Minecraft now
#1801 [12:58] <TotoGroline> Okay, thanks for your help !
#1802 [12:58] <VajraX> Nope, it froze again...
#1803 [12:58] <VajraX> should I wait a bit?
#1804 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, no.
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#1806 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> VajraX - You sure you removed everything in .minecraft (except for saves), and minecraft wasn't running at the time?
#1807 [13:00] <VajraX> Positive
#1808 [13:00] <VajraX> on the plus side, it doesn't seem to be freezing at the Mojang logo anymore
#1809 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> That should just wipe the slate clean, so minecraft's able to download fresh, unmodded 1.8.1 files..
#1810 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> Where is it freezing at?
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#1812 [13:00] <VajraX> right as it shows the minecraft logo and the game modes
#1813 [13:00] <KickInAss> hey gus i have a problem:
#1814 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> VajraX - Does it blackscreen?
#1815 [13:01] <VajraX> occasionally
#1816 [13:01] <VajraX> but only when I try to forcequit it
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#1818 [13:01] <night98> i got a ? i got a mc bot and i cant see it on my server
#1819 [13:01] <KickInAss> my minecraft suddenly appears after playing 2min and i have a error message on my desktop!
#1820 [13:01] <GreyVulpine> VajraX - Try a complete uninstall/reinstall of java.
#1821 [13:01] <rymate1234> hey
#1822 [13:02] <KickInAss> ok
#1823 [13:02] <VajraX> alkk
#1824 [13:02] <VajraX> kk*
#1825 [13:02] <rymate1234> does anyone know a bat script that lets me run minecraft.jar directly
#1826 [13:02] <rymate1234> without using the clieny
#1827 [13:02] <rymate1234> *client
#1828 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> KickInAss - Please copy the entirety of the error to pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#1829 [13:02] <zerofrosting> hey again
#1830 [13:03] <zerofrosting> So we tryed adhoc and It would not let me join my own server or him. It says an error about Minecraft.net.sessions or so
#1831 [13:04] <zerofrosting> We ran and signed in with the internet then disc and joined the adhoc and ran the server. then tryed to join and we could not
#1832 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> zerofrosting - connection might be flaky because of the spotty connection to minecraft?
#1833 [13:05] <zerofrosting> We were using a lan network
#1834 [13:05] <rymate1234> Its got a spotty connection? \o/
#1835 [13:05] <rymate1234> Maybe it has chickenpox
#1836 [13:05] <zerofrosting> We only used the internet to log into minecraft
#1837 [13:05] <zerofrosting> Then we joined the lan network
#1838 [13:05] <night98> how do i get a MC server bot to join a world
#1839 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> night98 - We don't support modded servers here. You may want to look for support in the respective mod server places
#1840 [13:06] <KickInAss> http://pastebin.com/LQwBuMRu
#1841 [13:06] <night98> ok
#1842 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> KickInAss - Uninstall and reinstall java
#1843 [13:07] <KickInAss> ok...
#1844 [13:09] <zerofrosting> Well were gona run to the PX ill come back later and try again
#1845 [13:09] <zerofrosting> thanks for the info
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#1847 [13:10] <johnliz> Anyone here? I need tech help :(
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#1850 [13:20] <VajraX> Hi, I'm back
#1851 [13:20] <VajraX> Uninstalling and reinstalling java did not work.
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#1853 [13:22] <KickInAss> uninstalling and reinstalling java didnt worked, too
#1854 [13:22] <KickInAss> :D
#1855 [13:22] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1856 [13:22] <RobinJ24> :D
#1857 [13:23] <RobinJ24> He won't smile at me :(
#1858 [13:23] <hewtech> hey guys, i got an issue
#1859 [13:23] <KickInAss> ...
#1860 [13:23] <mariettagecko> ?? ask
#1861 [13:23] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1862 [13:23] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1863 [13:24] <hewtech> when i go to open minecraft, it now says 'failed to load main-class manifest attribute'. it just started happening after a long morning of playing, when it was working
#1864 [13:25] <KickInAss> minecraft was closing any 2min i uninstalled and reinstalled java nothing happened
#1865 [13:25] <KickInAss> ...help?
#1866 [13:26] <VajraX> Yeah, I kinda figured that Java wouldn't work, but I figured it might be worth a try...
#1867 [13:26] <mariettagecko> hewtech: can you get into the launcher at all?
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#1869 [13:26] <VajraX> in my case, at least
#1870 [13:26] <hewtech> i already did a clean java install
#1871 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> KickInAss - It's a problem with your java. Try uninstalling java completely from your system. Then use a program called javaRA to remove any remnents of java from your system.
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#1873 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> KickInAss - You can get javaRA from here:
#1874 [13:26] <Madriker> Hello everyone
#1875 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> ??> KickInAss win/javara
#1876 [13:26] <VoxelHead> KickInAss: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1877 [13:27] <VoxelHead> KickInAss: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#1878 [13:27] <KickInAss> ok thx
#1879 [13:27] <hewtech> no, instant error message when i click on the launcher icon
#1880 [13:27] <VajraX> should I wait until 1.9 is released to see if that fixes my problem?
#1881 [13:28] <Madriker> I'm having some trouble understanding the concept of farming obsidian, could someone help me?
#1882 [13:28] <VajraX> might have been a corrupt patch I got somehow
#1883 [13:28] <Madriker> I'm trying to use the "7x1 ditch" system, but I must be doing something wrong.
#1884 [13:28] * VoxelHead is away: trimming my toenails
#1884 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> VajraX - if minecraft worked before you applied the 1.9 pre patch, deleting .minecraft and launching minecraft again should download the latest 1.8.1 stable release
#1885 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Madriker - Obsidian only forms with lava source blocks and water
#1886 [13:29] <KickInAss> i downloaded javaRA what should i do now?
#1887 [13:29] <VajraX> lemme try it again
#1888 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> KickInAss - There should be a "remove older versions" button there
#1889 [13:29] <Madriker> Lava *source* blocks as in, not out of a bucket?
#1890 [13:29] <KickInAss> ya
#1891 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Source blocks are non-flowing blocks of lava
#1892 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> obsidian only forms when water hits a lava source block, not flowing
#1893 [13:30] <Madriker> The Minecraft Wiki describes a "very basic obsidian generator" involving a 7x1 ditch with lava and water thrown at each side, but I haven't been able to replicate it.
#1894 [13:30] <VajraX> it started to work, GreyVulpine, then it froze again
#1895 [13:32] <VajraX> oh, GreyVulpine
#1896 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> VajraX - Yes?
#1897 [13:32] <VajraX> should it say "version 1.8.1" or something like that on the login screen?
#1898 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Madriker - I don't really see how to 'farm' obsidian
#1899 [13:32] <VajraX> right now, it does not
#1900 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> VajraX - When you launch minecraft, yeah...
#1901 [13:32] <Madriker> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Obsidian_Farming
#1902 [13:32] <VajraX> just mentions 1.8 features and bugfixes, and not 1.8.1
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#1904 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> VajraX - Not in news, don't think 1.8.1 is listed in the update news
#1905 [13:33] <VajraX> oh, well, on the title screen, it DOES mention 1.8.1
#1906 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> It should say 1.8.1 when you log in and you see the options for sp/mp/texturepacks
#1907 [13:33] <Jasmeen> Hi guys, I've just bought minecraft but I keep getting this Java error :( Help please?
#1908 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> As far as i know, the only way to get obsidian, Madriker, is when a lava source block hits a flowing water block
#1909 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> There is no way to infinitely farm obsidian, that I know of
#1910 [13:35] <Madriker> How can I accomplish that?
#1911 [13:35] <Madriker> I don't want to farm it "infinitely", I just need two pieces
#1912 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Do you have two buckets of lava, and a bucket of water?
#1913 [13:35] <Madriker> Yes
#1914 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Alright then, um. dig a trench, 2-wide. place both lava buckets in both spots
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#1916 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Then drop that water from the water bucket anywhere that'll flow over those two lava blocks
#1917 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - Could you copy the java error, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it?
#1918 [13:38] <Madriker> YAY OBSIDIAN!
#1919 [13:38] <Madriker> Thanks GreyVulpine
#1920 [13:38] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#1921 [13:39] <Jasmeen> http://pastebin.com/NyjevMWk
#1922 [13:39] <hewtech> when i attempt to log in to my server I get a 'can not connect- outdated client!' message. as far as i know my server and game are completely up to date
#1923 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Jaska - Looks like an out of date video card driver. Do you know how to update your ati video drivers?
#1924 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> hewtech - What version is the client and server running?
#1925 [13:40] <hewtech> 1.8
#1926 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure about that?
#1927 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> When you launch the server, what is the first line in the server's console?
#1928 [13:42] <hewtech> minecraft beta 1.8.1
#1929 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> And that's the same version your client is running?
#1930 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> The client should give you the version number in the lower left
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#1932 [13:44] <Spipmalion> hi
#1933 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1934 [13:44] <Spipmalion> just bought the game, have COnnection lost on all multi srv i tried, 1 hour on google did nothing
#1935 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Spipmalion - Try the server: s.nerd.nu
#1936 [13:45] <hewtech> yeah. 1.8.1
#1937 [13:45] <Jasmeen> http://pastebin.com/NyjevMWk << the link you have requested, GreyVulpine
#1938 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - Looks like an out of date video card driver. Do you know how to update your ati video drivers?
#1939 [13:45] <Jasmeen> i have updated it. I cannot update it any further
#1940 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> hewtech - It'l only give you that error if there's a version mismatch somewhere. Were you running a modded server of some sort?
#1941 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - How did you update it exactly?
#1942 [13:46] <Jasmeen> device manager > graphics card > automatic update
#1943 [13:46] <Spipmalion> s.nerd.nu : connection lost before logging in, code 500 for url http://session.minecraft.net/Game/joinserver etc
#1944 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - Windows update will never give you the latest video drivers
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#1946 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - Do you know what ATi video card you have?
#1947 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Spipmalion - Moment..
#1948 [13:47] <Spipmalion> and now diff msg error : Java IO exception string too long
#1949 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Spipmalion - That server works for me..
#1950 [13:47] <Spipmalion> i have this on all servers
#1951 [13:47] <Jasmeen> ATI RADEON HD 3200
#1952 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Spipmalion - Are you using the launcher that you downloaded from minecraft.net?
#1953 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Spipmalion - Or a third-party client?
#1954 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - What operating system?
#1955 [13:48] <Spipmalion> the .exe on W7
#1956 [13:48] <Jasmeen> windows 7
#1957 [13:48] <Spipmalion> from official site
#1958 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - 32 or 64 bit?
#1959 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> Spipmalion - Don't suppose you're running a firewall like zonealarm?
#1960 [13:48] <Spipmalion> oh its working now ... had to try 7 times O_O
#1961 [13:48] <mib_8918ec> so i got an error message that said: an error occurred while loading the applet. Please contact support to resolve this issue. Fatal error (7): com.mojang.minecraft.MinecraftApplet
#1962 [13:48] <mib_8918ec> help???
#1963 [13:49] <Jasmeen> 64
#1964 [13:49] <mib_8918ec> HALP ME PLZ
#1965 [13:49] <mariettagecko> ?? ask
#1966 [13:49] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1967 [13:49] <mib_8918ec> so i got an error message that said: an error occurred while loading the applet. Please contact support to resolve this issue. Fatal error (7): com.mojang.minecraft.MinecraftApplet
#1968 [13:49] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1969 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - Please try downloading and installing thse drivers: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx
#1970 [13:49] <mib_8918ec> and the game isn't loading.
#1971 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> mib_8918ec - Is that the entirety of the error?
#1972 [13:49] <mib_8918ec> yes. it's a black window with red lettering.
#1973 [13:50] <mib_8918ec> everything else is the same.
#1974 [13:50] <Jasmeen> Right, ok, one sec
#1975 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_8918ec - Classic or beta?
#1976 [13:50] <mib_8918ec> and it's with both single and multi.
#1977 [13:50] <mib_8918ec> classi
#1978 [13:50] <mib_8918ec> c
#1979 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_8918ec - Try clearing your browser's cache and temp files. If that doesn't work, try a different browser
#1980 [13:50] <mib_8918ec> ok how do i do that?
#1981 [13:50] <rymate1234> is minecraft login down?
#1982 [13:50] <mib_8918ec> i dunno.
#1983 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> mib_8918ec - All depends on what browser you're using
#1984 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> rymate1234 - It is not
#1985 [13:51] <mib_8918ec> nope.
#1986 [13:51] <mib_8918ec> well i've tried 3 different servers so i'm not sure about it.
#1987 [13:51] <rymate1234> Is minecraft server joining down then
#1988 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> rymate1234 - No, I just connected a minute ago
#1989 [13:51] <mib_8918ec> Try clearing your browser's cache and temp files. <<how do I do that?
#1990 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_8918ec - What browser do you use? Internet explorer? Firefox? Chrome? Opera? Safari?
#1991 [13:52] <mib_8918ec> now im on google chrome, and it was working fine yesterday.
#1992 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> mib_8918ec - http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=95582
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#1994 [13:53] <mib_8918ec> alright. i cleared it and it is still not working.
#1995 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Try a different browser?
#1996 [13:54] <mib_8918ec> GRRRRRRR
#1997 [13:54] <mib_8918ec> ok lemme see
#1998 [13:55] <Spipmalion> oh nerd.nu just restarting :-(
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#2000 [13:56] <mib_8918ec> nope. just tried it on internet explorer and it is still not working
#2001 [13:56] <Jasmeen> Ok, I have installed the drivers
#2002 [13:57] <mib_8918ec> okay......
#2003 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - If it asks you to reboot, please do so. Then try minecraft again
#2004 [13:57] <Jasmeen> Ok then, rebooting :)
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#2006 [14:02] <Spipmalion> how can i prevent someone to eat my house ? take away all the walls dirt wood stone .. ?
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#2008 [14:03] <sockmister> ok im back im the person who got the error message and had to clear my browser or whatever
#2009 [14:03] <sockmister> i restarted
#2010 [14:03] <sockmister> now what?
#2011 [14:04] <sockmister> hello?
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#2013 [14:04] <sockmister> i restarted it and it
#2014 [14:04] <xorcon> how can i update the game
#2015 [14:04] <sockmister> is still error
#2016 [14:05] <sockmister> is anyone on here?
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#2019 [14:05] <xorcon> how can i update the game
#2020 [14:06] <Jasmeen> It still doesn't work :(
#2021 [14:06] <ihavenofuckingidea> i need help, i tried clearing my browser are restarting and the error message won't go away.
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#2023 [14:07] <ihavenofuckingidea> IS ANYONE FUCKING ON HERE?!
#2024 [14:07] * AuBot kicked ihavenofuckingidea from #minecrafthelp (Reason: havenofuckingidea :Please keep it civil.)
#2025 [14:07] <mariettagecko> I was waiting for that.
#2026 [14:07] * mib_txgj1t [mib_txgj1t@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2027 [14:07] <mib_txgj1t> can i get help now?
#2028 [14:07] <Ryladine> lol
#2029 [14:08] <Ryladine> I suppose if you keep it civil
#2030 [14:08] <mib_txgj1t> i am serious.
#2031 [14:08] <mib_txgj1t> yes sorry
#2032 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - Could I get a dxdiag from you?
#2033 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> ??> Jasmeen win/dxdiag
#2034 [14:08] <VoxelHead> Jasmeen: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2035 [14:08] <VoxelHead> Jasmeen: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2037 [14:09] <mib_txgj1t> the error message (An error occurred while loading the applet. Please contact support to resolve this issue. Fatal error occurred(7): com.mojang.minecraft.MinecrafApplet) appeared when i tried to go into sinlge and multi classic on google chrome. i have tried clearing my browser and restarting my computer and nothing is working.
#2038 [14:09] <Jasmeen> There you go - http://pastebin.com/5tr1X9ZA
#2039 [14:10] <Ryladine> Hmm
#2040 [14:11] <Ryladine> GreyVulpine: What is fatal error 7?
#2041 [14:11] <idontunderstandcrap> why do u think i am here?
#2042 [14:11] <idontunderstandcrap> GRR THIS IS SO CONFUZZLING AAAAAAH
#2043 [14:11] <idontunderstandcrap> s
#2044 [14:11] <idontunderstandcrap> ss
#2045 [14:11] <Ryladine> Grey knows more than I do about the error numbers, let him respond and I should be able to help you.
#2046 [14:12] <idontunderstandcrap> too bad i cant send a pic otherwise i would
#2047 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Ryladine - Classic, so for the most part, deleting the cache should've fixed it
#2048 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Many of those errors in classic can be attributed to corrupt jars
#2049 [14:12] <Ryladine> Ah
#2050 [14:12] <Ryladine> Alright, thanks.
#2051 [14:13] <RobinJ24> Hmm
#2052 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - Could you uninstall your current ati drivers, instructions can be found here: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/GPU57RemoveOldGraphicsDrivers.aspx
#2053 [14:13] <RobinJ24> Are there any clients that can run classic?
#2054 [14:13] <RobinJ24> Should exist...
#2055 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - After uninstalling them, you can try installing the latest again
#2056 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> RobinJ24 - Third-party, fan-made ones, yes
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#2058 [14:13] <RobinJ24> Yea
#2059 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> Look into World of minecraft
#2060 [14:13] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: I'm going to start simply, You are trying to run minecraft clasic, or minecraft beta?
#2061 [14:13] <RobinJ24> Long time ago I played classic and browser usually doesnt work for me
#2062 [14:13] <GreyVulpine> As they're unofficial clients, we do not offer support for them
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#2064 [14:14] <idontunderstandcrap> classic
#2065 [14:14] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: I've not realy messed with clasic much... Grey would the resintal .bat work for clasic as well?
#2066 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> It does not
#2067 [14:14] <idontunderstandcrap> both single and multi
#2068 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> The .jars for classic are downloaded to whereever the temp folder the browser uses
#2069 [14:15] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: Alright.
#2070 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> On IE and windows, its usually %temp%
#2071 [14:15] <Ryladine> Yeah
#2072 [14:15] <idontunderstandcrap> wow confusing.
#2073 [14:15] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: Have you cleared your browsers entire history, and cache files and such?
#2074 [14:16] <Jasmeen> from where do i reinstall?
#2075 [14:16] <idontunderstandcrap> ive cleared the browser history...how do i clear cache files?
#2076 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - From the ati website that I linked you earlier. Those should've been the latest drivers for you
#2077 [14:16] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: What browser are you using?
#2078 [14:16] <idontunderstandcrap> wait nevermind. yes i did that
#2079 [14:16] <idontunderstandcrap> three times.
#2080 [14:16] <idontunderstandcrap> google chrome.
#2081 [14:16] <idontunderstandcrap> this was working fine 15 hours ago.
#2082 [14:17] <Jasmeen> I had to reboot my computer so i lost the links, sorry :(
#2083 [14:17] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - Ah, moment
#2084 [14:17] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: You are running windows correct?
#2085 [14:17] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: Do you know how to open run?
#2086 [14:17] <idontunderstandcrap> windows...what do you mean by windows?
#2087 [14:18] <Ryladine> Windows XP, windows Vista, windows 7, etc
#2088 [14:18] <idontunderstandcrap> uh i think so
#2089 [14:18] <Ryladine> lol.
#2090 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Jasmeen - ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics on Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. The drivers for your configuration are located at: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx
#2091 [14:18] <idontunderstandcrap> heh.
#2092 [14:18] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: I would assume you would know if you were on MAC or Linux so..
#2093 [14:18] <idontunderstandcrap> yes.
#2094 [14:19] <Ryladine> ??< win/run
#2095 [14:19] <idontunderstandcrap> sorry. stupid moment.
#2096 [14:19] <Ryladine> Ff
#2097 [14:19] <Jasmeen> Thank you, one moment
#2098 [14:19] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: Please press your windows/start key, and R at the same time, it should open a window.
#2099 [14:20] <idontunderstandcrap> start key?
#2100 [14:20] <Ryladine> It's on the left at the bottom of the keyboard, between ctrl, and alt
#2101 [14:20] <idontunderstandcrap> is it the logo or fn?
#2102 [14:20] <Ryladine> logo
#2103 [14:21] <idontunderstandcrap> ok got it
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#2105 [14:21] <Ryladine> type %temp% into the bar, and press enter, then give me a moment
#2106 [14:21] <MFanatik> hey
#2107 [14:21] <MFanatik> can anyone help me?
#2108 [14:21] <idontunderstandcrap> oooh! okay got it
#2109 [14:23] <Ryladine> I'm not certain what it would be called, but there should be something like "minecraft.jar" in that folder, see if you can find it.
#2110 [14:23] <idontunderstandcrap> ....dodooodoooododooododooodododododododoooododoooo...
#2111 [14:23] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: If you can't find it please give me a bit, I'm running clasic to be certain of what it's called
#2112 [14:24] <idontunderstandcrap> nope it's not there...
#2113 [14:24] <Ryladine> Alright give me a moment to locate the correct file
#2114 [14:24] <idontunderstandcrap> okay
#2115 [14:25] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: Hmm
#2116 [14:25] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: Maybe that's not your issue, because that IS what the file is called. Are there any files in it called minecraft?
#2117 [14:26] <idontunderstandcrap> no...they're all letter/number mixups
#2118 [14:27] <Ryladine> idontunderstandcrap: Use the search feature of windows explorer to be absolutely certain, there should be a short bar under the X
#2119 [14:27] <Ryladine> Type minecraft in it and let it load
#2120 [14:27] <idontunderstandcrap> there's a folder called minecraft.
#2121 [14:28] <Ryladine> Go ahead and delete it
#2122 [14:28] <Ryladine> These are all temp files so if they aren't there they will be regenerated by whatever needs it.
#2123 [14:28] <Ryladine> Then try running it agian
#2124 [14:28] <idontunderstandcrap> there are two.
#2125 [14:28] <VajraX> Back
#2126 [14:28] <Ryladine> Delete both of them
#2127 [14:28] <idontunderstandcrap> one is www.minecraft.net
#2128 [14:29] <idontunderstandcrap> and the other is minecraft and it has a folder called natives in it
#2129 [14:29] <idontunderstandcrap> okay...
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#2131 [14:29] <idontunderstandcrap> :/
#2132 [14:29] <Ryladine> Yes, go ahead and delete both of them just to be certain.
#2133 [14:29] <idontunderstandcrap> i did indeed :D
#2134 [14:29] <Ryladine> You will have to log into the minecraft.net website again if you have an account there.
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#2136 [14:29] <Ryladine> Go ahead and try minecraft agian now.
#2137 [14:29] <Ryladine> again*
#2138 [14:30] <idontunderstandcrap> :O IT WORKS!
#2139 [14:30] <linkedge> # i cannot go on the clasic servers due to an error saying it crashed, it started when update v1.8 came out help please D:
#2140 [14:30] <linkedge> *classic
#2141 [14:30] <idontunderstandcrap> THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU I LOVE YOU GUYS!
#2142 [14:30] <idontunderstandcrap> :D
#2143 [14:30] <idontunderstandcrap> KTHXBAI
#2144 [14:30] <Ryladine> linkedge: What is the error you are getting?
#2145 [14:30] <linkedge> hold on, let me get the page.
#2146 [14:30] <slimer> how do you start it!
#2147 [14:30] <linkedge> i go on minecraft.net in browser
#2148 [14:31] <Ryladine> slimer: how do you start what?
#2149 [14:31] <slimer> i did
#2150 [14:31] <linkedge> ok, it says...
#2151 [14:31] <VajraX> ...what?
#2152 [14:31] <slimer> what
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#2154 [14:31] <VajraX> My computer just told me that I havent' updated Java?
#2155 [14:31] <VajraX> But I just did...?
#2156 [14:32] <linkedge> We were unable to return you to minecraft.net.
#2157 [14:32] <VajraX> meh, hang on
#2158 [14:32] <linkedge> Internet Explorer has stopped trying to restore this website. It appears that the website continues to have a problem.
#2159 [14:32] <Ryladine> VajraX: Go to this page and tell me what version of java it says you are on.
#2160 [14:33] <Ryladine> ??> VajraX java/version
#2161 [14:33] <VoxelHead> VajraX: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2162 [14:33] <VoxelHead> VajraX: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2163 [14:33] <slimer> I have bought it .now what do i do
#2164 [14:33] <Ryladine> linkedge: Explanation, IE. Try another browser.
#2165 [14:34] <linkedge> any ideas on what the problem is with the crash, is it because of a java update? :/
#2166 [14:34] <Ryladine> ??> linkedge win/ie
#2167 [14:34] <VoxelHead> linkedge: (win/ie) Internet Exploder^WExploiter^WExplorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#2168 [14:34] <VoxelHead> linkedge: (win/ie) Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome
#2169 [14:34] <linkedge> ok, thank you hold on...
#2170 [14:34] <Ryladine> slimer: Lets ensure your account has become premium already before you try plaing, what was the username you used?
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#2172 [14:34] <slimer> is any one listening!!!!!
#2173 [14:34] <Ryladine> playing*
#2174 [14:34] <Ryladine> I'm talking to you slimer.
#2175 [14:34] <slimer> oh
#2176 [14:34] <Ryladine> slimer: Lets ensure your account has become premium already before you try plaing, what was the username you used?
#2177 [14:34] <slimer> minermob
#2178 [14:35] <Ryladine> !paid minermob
#2179 [14:35] <Ryladine> Alright, your account is premium, go to http://minecraft.net/download/
#2180 [14:35] <linkedge> i need to download it, if it works thank you so much, if not, then i ragequit o-o
#2181 [14:35] <Ryladine> And download the correct .exe for your OS.
#2182 [14:35] <slimer> i know. but i don't know how to find aND START IT
#2183 [14:36] <Ryladine> Ff
#2184 [14:36] <linkedge> i downloaded the link you gave me
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#2186 [14:36] <slimer> sorry
#2187 [14:36] <Ryladine> Alright, install the browser and try it link
#2188 [14:36] <Ryladine> slimer, have you downloaded the .exe?
#2189 [14:37] <Ryladine> if not go to http://www.minecraft.net/download and get the correct version for your OS
#2190 [14:37] <slimer> i don't know
#2191 [14:37] <linkedge> java plug in o-o
#2192 [14:37] <Ryladine> Go ahead and download it from there then.
#2193 [14:37] <linkedge> ?
#2194 [14:37] <Ryladine> What link?
#2195 [14:37] <slimer> thanks bye
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#2197 [14:38] <RobinJ24> I get such a warm, happy feeling in my stomach when my program gets a fatal error and my whole computer account gets logged out
#2198 [14:38] <linkedge> what is this java plugin needed for google chrome :o
#2199 [14:38] <Ryladine> I'm afraid I don't know about chrome.... I use firefox
#2200 [14:38] <linkedge> oh, nvm hold on
#2201 [14:39] <Ryladine> Lol poor RobinJ24
#2202 [14:39] <linkedge> OMG IT WORKS YES, now i can continue on clock town! :D
#2203 [14:39] <Ryladine> Good luck linkedge
#2204 [14:39] <DualDigit> Hey Helpers! :D I've got a minecraft problem. The 'forgot password' function on the website isn't working for me. Can someone try this out please?
#2205 [14:40] <Ryladine> DualDigit: It's working fine, try going to this page.
#2206 [14:40] <Ryladine> http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
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#2208 [14:41] <DualDigit> Yeah, I was there before (obviously), it gives me this message: "Success! An e-mail has been dispatched and should make it's way to your inbox momentarily."
#2209 [14:41] <DualDigit> But I'm not getting an e-mail.
#2210 [14:41] <Ryladine> Check your spam folders.
#2211 [14:41] <DualDigit> Empty :)
#2212 [14:41] <RobinJ24> Then you probably didn't register with that email address
#2213 [14:42] <RobinJ24> check your profile and see what the E-mail adress part says
#2214 [14:42] <Ryladine> Also remember that the internet is not instant, depending on who you use it can take as much as a day or more to recieve and email
#2215 [14:42] <Ryladine> an*
#2216 [14:42] <DualDigit> I think I made my first request 2 or 3 days ago.
#2217 [14:42] <DualDigit> Are you sure it's working?
#2218 [14:43] <RobinJ24> DualDigit did you register with the correct address?
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#2220 [14:43] <Ryladine> Hmm
#2221 [14:43] <DualDigit> Yep, I checked by entering my address in the 'forgot username' service (which doesn't send me an e-mail as well).
#2222 [14:44] <DualDigit> It said my address is registered.
#2223 [14:44] <Ryladine> Hmm...
#2224 [14:44] <RobinJ24> Yeah but is it the same address in your profile?
#2225 [14:44] <Ryladine> Give it some more time, and if it still does not arive email mojain.
#2226 [14:44] <Ryladine> mojang*
#2227 [14:44] <DualDigit> Should be.
#2228 [14:45] <Ryladine> It's possible the mail servers are down.
#2229 [14:45] <DualDigit> Okay, I'll wait some more time. Thanks for trying to help me, though.
#2230 [14:45] <DualDigit> Bye :)
#2231 [14:46] <RobinJ24> Wait a minute...
#2232 [14:46] <RobinJ24> did I ask him to check his profile even though he forgot his password?
#2233 [14:46] <RobinJ24> /facepalm
#2234 [14:46] <Ryladine> Yes, you did
#2235 [14:46] <Ryladine> lol
#2236 [14:47] <Jasmeen> Ok, now I need to restart again, brb
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#2240 [14:52] <mmm> it says response code 500 when i try to join a certain server can anyone help
#2241 [14:53] <RobinJ24> A certain server? So it's only that server?
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#2243 [14:53] <Jasmeen> Back
#2244 [14:53] <mmm> correct
#2245 [14:53] <Jasmeen> It still doesn't work
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#2247 [14:54] <itrolll> im having problems connecting
#2248 [14:54] <itrolll> to servers
#2249 [14:54] <RobinJ24> then it's something wrong with the server (obviously), try talking to the server admin..
#2250 [14:54] <RobinJ24> (not in response to you itroll)
#2251 [14:54] <itrolll> first of all its not
#2252 [14:54] <itrolll> oh lol
#2253 [14:54] <mmm> it also says somthing about a string legth being too long what does that mean
#2254 [14:54] <itrolll> i get that too
#2255 [14:55] <itrolll> and a session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver
#2256 [14:55] <itrolll> error
#2257 [14:55] <itrolll> rawr rawr fix it mollstam
#2258 [14:55] <Jasmeen> GreyVulpine? Are you still there?
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#2261 [14:57] <idontunderstandcrap> hey im back and i hate my computer
#2262 [14:58] <RobinJ24> I can barely play minecraft on mine
#2263 [14:58] <RobinJ24> you should all feel sorry for me and send me flowers
#2264 [14:58] <idontunderstandcrap> *sigh*
#2265 [14:58] <itrolll> no
#2266 [14:58] <idontunderstandcrap> soooo.......
#2267 [14:58] <itrolll> we should feel sorry for steve jobs
#2268 [14:58] <itrolll> and put flowers at apple stores
#2269 [14:58] <idontunderstandcrap> i need help starting a server.
#2270 [14:58] <itrolll> u lose
#2271 [14:58] <RobinJ24> idontunderstandcrap whats the problem?
#2272 [14:59] <idontunderstandcrap> well i think i updated the java and everything correctly but im not sure what to click to start.
#2273 [14:59] <idontunderstandcrap> i double clicked "start_server" or whatever it is
#2274 [14:59] <idontunderstandcrap> and then command came up and said a bunch of stuff
#2275 [14:59] <RobinJ24> uhh the minecraft server jar?
#2276 [14:59] <idontunderstandcrap> and then i got aall these files--yes, the .jar--about admins and banned people and stuff.
#2277 [15:00] <RobinJ24> so you opened it and dont know what to do next?
#2278 [15:00] <idontunderstandcrap> so i need help STARTING, not like downloading it or anything
#2279 [15:00] <idontunderstandcrap> yes.
#2280 [15:00] <RobinJ24> have you checked the tutorials?
#2281 [15:00] <idontunderstandcrap> ....that would be a good idea.
#2282 [15:01] <idontunderstandcrap> *sigh* i'll be back if trouble bites me on the @$$...bye.
#2283 [15:04] <Thrae> idontunderstandcrap: Are you running the server on Linux, Mac, Windows, other?
#2284 [15:04] <idontunderstandcrap> chrome
#2285 [15:04] <idontunderstandcrap> ohsry windows
#2286 [15:04] <idontunderstandcrap> bnueaqfgjhvrbsofa
#2287 [15:04] <idontunderstandcrap> windows.
#2288 [15:04] <idontunderstandcrap> i still don't understand how to set it up.
#2289 [15:04] <Thrae> OK, so you want to download the Minecraft_Server.exe -- you don't need to use the JAR
#2290 [15:04] <idontunderstandcrap> *headdesk*
#2291 [15:05] <idontunderstandcrap> o.O
#2292 [15:05] <idontunderstandcrap> what?
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#2294 [15:05] <Thrae> !server
#2295 [15:05] <Thrae> Basically the EXE encapulates the JAR and executes Java for you with some default parameters
#2296 [15:05] <idontunderstandcrap> :O
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#2298 [15:06] <idontunderstandcrap> nao what
#2299 [15:06] <sockmister> hey
#2300 [15:07] <idontunderstandcrap> thrae?
#2301 [15:07] <idontunderstandcrap> now what do i do?
#2302 [15:07] <idontunderstandcrap> i opened the file.
#2303 [15:07] <Wug> is it just me or are the auth servers freaking out
#2304 [15:07] <Wug> I'm getting 500 errors like every attempt
#2305 [15:07] <RobinJ24> Are there any support channels for World of Minecraft?
#2306 [15:07] <Wug> RobinJ24: check their website
#2307 [15:07] <Thrae> OK, and the server should generate the files needed and pop-up a GUI
#2308 [15:07] <Thrae> RobinJ24: #wom , on this network
#2309 [15:08] <Thrae> They'll send it back to us if it's Minecraft-specific
#2310 [15:08] <RobinJ24> It says I'm banned O.o
#2311 [15:08] <RobinJ24> even though I've never been there..
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#2313 [15:08] <RobinJ24> Can I contact an OP there somehow so I can get unbanned?
#2314 [15:09] <Thrae> Hmm, no idea
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#2316 [15:09] <RobinJ24> The retarded site won't even open
#2317 [15:09] <RobinJ24> I think God doesnt want me to use World of Minecraft
#2318 [15:09] <Thrae> Users on #wom: bodoman +Jak +roland223 +cheezybacon +Tiresh @Shnaw Derpy_Hooves tyteen4a03 @PartyM Jascrod +Jox FiXeroN @Mark Smurfen +Salmon geekwork frafk @GlaD0s gOne2002 @Miclee eyebo Thrae
#2319 [15:09] <idontunderstandcrap> ok it opened a window that is called minecraft server and has all this code liek loading spawn point \
#2320 [15:09] <mermi> hi guys
#2321 [15:09] <mermi> pls help me
#2322 [15:09] <Jasmeen> Can someone please help me? It seems like GreyVulpine has disappeared :(
#2323 [15:09] <Thrae> mermi: That's what we're here for
#2324 [15:09] <idontunderstandcrap> oh noes
#2325 [15:09] <Thrae> Jasmeen: What's the issue?
#2326 [15:10] <mermi> so i bought a game 2 months ago, and it worked perfectly and today i tried to log in and i said "User not Premium".. so i tried again and again an it was always the same. After that i went to minecraft.net and i went on my profile and it said Redeem code, and that i need to buy the game in order to change skins. And i was WTF. Why is my acc not premium, pleas
#2327 [15:10] <mermi> help me :(
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#2329 [15:10] <mermi> my accoun is sp1derxd
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#2331 [15:10] <Thrae> !paid sp1derxd
#2332 [15:10] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Thrae, hi, thanks for yesterday, the beta nvidia drivers solved the issue
#2333 [15:10] <Wug> Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze: lol your name
#2334 [15:10] <Jasmeen> Here, http://pastebin.com/eJPU8wzK
#2335 [15:10] <Thrae> Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze: Yeah, might have just been the Clean Install too, but glad you got it fixed
#2336 [15:10] <idontunderstandcrap> can someone help me? i downloaded that file thrae sent me and the window popped up but now im not sure what to do.
#2337 [15:11] <Thrae> Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze: Just remember -- new drivers come with new bugs ;)
#2338 [15:11] <Dfsdgsfhqsgedtze> Thrae, definitely not the clean install because when I installed the previous drivers I did that as well :)
#2339 [15:11] <Thrae> idontunderstandcrap: Your server is now running
#2340 [15:11] <sockmister> can someone get me a gift code
#2341 [15:11] <idontunderstandcrap> ok now how do i like actually build in it and name it and such
#2342 [15:11] <idontunderstandcrap> hmmm?!??@?@@?@"#<%MTIU!Y@GIZBJVHOGIT\
#2343 [15:11] <Thrae> mermi: OK, did you purchase a gift/redeem code from anybody? Or an account from anybody?
#2344 [15:12] <Jasmeen> GreyVulpine has asked me to reinstall my ATI drivers and I did but Minecraft still doesn't work :(
#2345 [15:12] <RobinJ24> sockmister Minecraft isn't expensive, buy it yourself..
#2346 [15:12] <sockmister> i dont have money
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#2348 [15:12] <Thrae> Jasmeen: The ATI installer can lie about installing the drivers -- give us your DxDiag again. Remember how to do that?
#2349 [15:12] <sockmister> im 11
#2350 [15:12] <idontunderstandcrap> go take steve job's money. he's dead now.
#2351 [15:12] <Modjunior> Hello?
#2352 [15:12] <Modjunior> Need help
#2353 [15:13] <Thrae> Modjunior: Hope it's not about mods, as we don't usually help with that here :)
#2354 [15:13] <Jasmeen> Yes, one second
#2355 [15:13] <Modjunior> no
#2356 [15:13] <idontunderstandcrap> my server is runnin gbut how do i build in it and change the name and such???
#2357 [15:13] <RobinJ24> sockmister Ask your parents then... or do chores for money
#2358 [15:13] <sockmister> i need a gift code
#2359 [15:13] <Modjunior> I have a big Problem
#2360 [15:13] <Jasmeen> http://pastebin.com/dCpeZXxp
#2361 [15:13] <Thrae> idontunderstandcrap: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Configuring_the_Minecraft_Server
#2362 [15:14] <idontunderstandcrap> thx u
#2363 [15:14] <RobinJ24> I am about 99.9 percent sure no one wants to give you a gift code sockmister
#2364 [15:14] <Thrae> idontunderstandcrap: Also see http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/168-how-to-set-up-a-minecraft-server/
#2365 [15:14] <sockmister> y
#2366 [15:14] <Thrae> sockmister: We're all volunteers here -- we paid for it ourselves (most of us)
#2367 [15:14] <mermi> i boughed minecraft
#2368 [15:14] <mermi> pls
#2369 [15:14] <Thrae> We definitely didn't get it free from Mojang
#2370 [15:15] <RobinJ24> sockmister it's not expensive, buy it yourself...
#2371 [15:15] <sockmister> can i get it free
#2372 [15:15] <mermi> i have remeed code
#2373 [15:15] <sockmister> how much?
#2374 [15:15] <mermi> gift
#2375 [15:15] <Thrae> mermi: OK, so you bought a gift code? From where?
#2376 [15:15] <RobinJ24> No sockmister you can't get it for free
#2377 [15:15] <RobinJ24> no one will give it to you for free
#2378 [15:15] <Jasmeen> Thrae - http://pastebin.com/dCpeZXxp
#2379 [15:15] <RobinJ24> go to minecraft.net and buy it
#2380 [15:15] <mermi> Ththrae i give you gift remeed codde?
#2381 [15:15] <sockmister> with what money
#2382 [15:15] <Modjunior> If i run Minecraft and Login, after loading it isnt going to main menu, its going out if there wasnt anything
#2383 [15:15] <mermi> from
#2384 [15:15] <Modjunior> please help
#2385 [15:16] <mermi> www.jocuri-sms.net
#2386 [15:16] <mermi> worked perfectly
#2387 [15:16] <mermi> and now..
#2388 [15:16] <mermi> "User not premium"
#2389 [15:16] <mermi> :(
#2390 [15:16] <Thrae> Jasmeen: Yep yer drivers are messed up -- version isn't right, and no date showing...one sec
#2391 [15:16] <mermi> thrae help me
#2392 [15:16] <mermi> pls
#2393 [15:17] <Thrae> Jasmeen: Also you need to run through Windows Update in Control Panel -- your computer is about 6 months out of date or more, lacking Service Pack 1
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#2395 [15:17] <idontunderstandcrap> NOT HELPING.
#2396 [15:17] <sockmister> whats the site to type in ur gift code
#2397 [15:18] <Jasmeen> how do i update it?
#2398 [15:18] <Thrae> Jasmeen: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx#2 should take you to "Individual Downloads" and there download and install the "Display Driver".
#2399 [15:18] <Jasmeen> one sec
#2400 [15:18] <sockmister> whats the site to type in ur gift code
#2401 [15:19] <Modjunior> Thare: I Send u something on private message
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#2403 [15:19] <RobinJ24> sockmister www.minecraft.net
#2404 [15:19] <Thrae> mermi: Unfortunately a scam we've seen before is to sell gift codes from minecraft.net then do a chargeback on your credit card (sometimes even canceling it after). The only valid place to buy Minecraft, gift code or otherwise, is www.minecraft.net. There is no discount, bulk or otherwise, given to people, so there is no profit to be made selling gift codes.
#2405 [15:19] <sockmister> then what
#2406 [15:19] <Thrae> mermi: Since there's no profit for selling gift codes there
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#2408 [15:19] <RobinJ24> log into your account
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#2410 [15:19] <Thrae> mermi: Since there's no profit for selling gift codes there's no market outside scams
#2411 [15:20] <RobinJ24> are you logged in sockmister?
#2412 [15:20] <sockmister> ya
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#2414 [15:20] <Thrae> Modjunior: I can help you here, it just takes time for me to research and type out answers
#2415 [15:20] <Jasmeen> Ok I installed the display driver, Thrae
#2416 [15:20] <Thrae> Jasmeen: OK if it didn't ask you to reboot, go ahead and do so
#2417 [15:20] <Jackson413> !isdown
#2418 [15:20] <GreyBot> Jackson413: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2419 [15:20] <IceDeep> Anyone mind helping me why I am having trouble running minecraft 1.9 in Linux/Ubuntu? I can't seem to get it to run
#2420 [15:21] <Thrae> Jackson413: Someone said earlier there may be a problem with the auth servers right now
#2421 [15:21] <Jasmeen> I'll just update my computer before i restart
#2422 [15:21] <Modjunior> Thare: It would be very nice if u can help me
#2423 [15:22] <Thrae> IceDeep: We normally don't help with pre-releases, but I can give you one hint -- the "minecraft.jar" you download to update to the pre-release and the launcher "minecraft.jar" are different. You need to still use the same launcher, replacing ~/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#2424 [15:22] <Thrae> ??> Modjunior dont/pm
#2425 [15:22] <VoxelHead> Modjunior: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
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#2427 [15:22] <Thrae> Modjunior: OK, can you expand on your problem? Exactly what's going on?
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#2430 [15:24] <Pacolaco> !isdown session.minecraft.net
#2431 [15:24] <GreyBot> Pacolaco: It's not just you! http://session.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2432 [15:24] <IceDeep> Ahhh ok. will try around with it more but already seem to be stuck after moving it to the /bin/
#2433 [15:24] <Thrae> The auth servers are reportedly giving weird errors right now, might be just a fluke
#2434 [15:24] <Modjunior> Thare: If i run Minecraft its all okay. I can login but after loading Minecraft is going out
#2435 [15:24] <Viking667> mmmm.
#2436 [15:24] <Thrae> !isdown 184.73.166.45
#2437 [15:24] <GreyBot> Thrae: It's not just you! http://184.73.166.45 looks down from here.
#2438 [15:24] <Viking667> and what's THAT IP
#2439 [15:24] <idontunderstandcrap> i quit.
#2440 [15:25] <Thrae> Viking667: session.minecraft.net
#2441 [15:25] <Modjunior> I not even see the Mojang screen
#2442 [15:25] <Thrae> Modjunior: OK, are you using Windows? Do any files like hs_err_pid get generated?
#2443 [15:25] <Modjunior> Yes and no
#2444 [15:25] <sockmister> can some one get me a gift code
#2445 [15:26] <Thrae> Modjunior: One moment
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#2447 [15:26] <Thrae> sockmister: Do you realize we do not have free codes to give out? We're just volunteers. You'd have just as much luck begging for money in any channel.
#2448 [15:27] <IceDeep> Sweet got it working, thanks Thrae :) I was being dumb
#2449 [15:27] <Thrae> IceDeep: NP, they should rename the launcher
#2450 [15:27] <Modjunior> Thare to be mor precise i using Windows XP
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#2452 [15:28] <Thrae> Modjunior: Download and use http://mc.kealper.com/mchelp/mcdebug.exe to launch and play Minecraft. When it crashes we'll get an automatic error report submitted to www.pastebin.com. This will help us figure out exactly what's going on with your system.
#2453 [15:28] <eROMA> who can i talk to if i cant log in to my account? It just says that i need premium, but i have pay for it all ready...
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#2455 [15:28] <Thrae> eROMA: How long ago did you buy Minecraft?
#2456 [15:28] <Luigi52> Anyone know how to fix the problem if I cant connect to any servers?
#2457 [15:28] <Modjunior> thank you Thrae
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#2459 [15:29] <Luigi52> Anyone?
#2460 [15:29] <Thrae> Luigi52: Can you connect to mc.matts-hosting.com ?
#2461 [15:30] <RynJ8> hi how can i play on official server&
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#2463 [15:30] <RynJ8> ?*
#2464 [15:30] <Luigi52> Let me try
#2465 [15:30] <RobinJ24> RynJ8 What do you mean by official server?
#2466 [15:30] <Luigi52> Yeah I can must
#2467 [15:30] <mermi> Thrae pls read private mesage
#2468 [15:30] <Thrae> ?? dont/pm
#2469 [15:30] <VoxelHead> dont/pm: We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#2470 [15:30] <Luigi52> *must've been the server thanks!
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#2472 [15:31] <mermi> Jocuri SMS::Minecraft Digital Download Show Details Message body Licenta comandata: GNCDKEY:j3n3-v4s4-t5x2 (vezi istoric pe site) Multumim pentru comanda ! Daca sunt probleme, va rugam trimiteti mail la reclamatii@jocuri-sms.net !
#2473 [15:31] <mermi> email
#2474 [15:31] <mermi> from
#2475 [15:31] <mermi> perfectly
#2476 [15:32] <Thrae> mermi: You have to contact the person you bought it from -- they have the proof of purchase.
#2477 [15:32] <Modjunior> Thrae can u see the problem?^^
#2478 [15:32] <RynJ8> can you tall my the best MC server&
#2479 [15:32] <eROMA> who can i talk to if i cant log in to my account? It just says that i need premium, but i have pay for it all ready...
#2480 [15:32] <Thrae> ??> eROMA payment
#2481 [15:32] <VoxelHead> eROMA: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#2482 [15:32] <VoxelHead> eROMA: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#2483 [15:33] <eROMA> okey
#2484 [15:33] <Thrae> Modjunior: Yeah, there's no error report from Java, how odd
#2485 [15:33] <Thrae> ??> Modjunior win/dxdiag
#2486 [15:33] <VoxelHead> Modjunior: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2487 [15:33] <VoxelHead> Modjunior: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2489 [15:34] <Thrae> Modjunior: Follow those instructions and I'll look at likely candidates in drivers
#2490 [15:34] <kendle> ita?
#2491 [15:34] <Thrae> kendle: English
#2492 [15:34] <Thrae> ??> RynJ8 smp
#2493 [15:34] <VoxelHead> RynJ8: (smp) Survival Multi-Player
#2494 [15:35] <Thrae> ??> RynJ8 smp/servers
#2495 [15:35] <VoxelHead> RynJ8: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2496 [15:35] <VoxelHead> RynJ8: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2497 [15:35] <Modjunior> Thank you
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#2500 [15:39] <Modjunior> Thrae i paste
#2501 [15:39] <Thrae> Modjunior: Need the link
#2502 [15:39] <Modjunior> http://pastebin.com/jtXv0jSR
#2503 [15:39] <sockmister> i can get anyone a free server if u can get me a minecraft gift code
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#2505 [15:40] <RobinJ24> ..
#2506 [15:40] <RobinJ24> Stop asking for free codes..
#2507 [15:40] <Thrae> ??> sockmister dont/advertise
#2508 [15:40] <VoxelHead> sockmister: (dont/advertise) This channel is not a venue for unsolicited advertisements. Please do not do that again. This is your warning.
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#2510 [15:40] <Thrae> Modjunior: Yeah you have Microsoft-provided drivers for your ATI card, one sec
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#2512 [15:41] <Modjunior> Thrae can you say it at PM? I must afk
#2513 [15:42] <Modjunior> ...
#2514 [15:42] <Thrae> Modjunior: Download and install this driver provided by the card manufacturer -- http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English -- note that your system is rather old, the drivers aren't being made anymore, and we've had trouble with the 9600 series
#2515 [15:43] <Modjunior> Thank you Thrae!
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#2519 [15:50] <huddler> Hello?
#2520 [15:50] <RobinJ24> yes?
#2521 [15:50] <huddler> I needed help with Minecraft and it sent me here.. ;_;
#2522 [15:51] <huddler> I downloaded a mod and now my minecraft is being mean... can someone help me?
#2523 [15:51] <Thrae> ?? mods
#2524 [15:51] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#2525 [15:51] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2526 [15:52] <Thrae> huddler: We can help you remove the mod and that's about it.
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#2531 [16:03] <RobinJ24> I should be at my dad's right now, with the windows computer
#2532 [16:03] <RobinJ24> where minecraft works
#2533 [16:03] <RobinJ24> But I'm not =[
#2534 [16:04] <RobinJ24> I'm thinking about all the cool things I could do with custom clients right now...and I'm dying a little inside...
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#2537 [16:07] <Jasmeen> Hello, I have rebooted my computer after fully updating it
#2538 [16:07] <Jasmeen> Minecraft still doesn't work. Help please? :(
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#2540 [16:11] <gunther> gunther can u give me a favor
#2541 [16:11] <Jasmeen> Can someone help me please?
#2542 [16:11] <RobinJ24> with what Jaska
#2543 [16:12] <RobinJ24> jasmeen*
#2544 [16:12] <gunther> can some one help me
#2545 [16:12] <Jaska> grr dont highlight me
#2546 [16:12] <Jaska> :(
#2547 [16:12] <Jasmeen> I have fully updated my computer and drivers but Minecraft still doesn't work
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#2549 [16:12] <RobinJ24> lol sry Jaska, Tab error
#2550 [16:12] <RobinJ24> jasmeen what's the error
#2551 [16:13] <gunther> i need help
#2552 [16:13] <Jasmeen> http://pastebin.com/SvBXqMA5
#2553 [16:13] <Jasmeen> ^ that
#2554 [16:14] <Thunder7102> How do you get rid of the "out of memory" glitch?
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#2557 [16:16] <Ryladine> Thunder7102: Get more memory.
#2558 [16:16] <Thunder7102> I have 6GB...
#2559 [16:16] <RobinJ24> gunther about your problem: whats your minecraft username?
#2560 [16:17] <Ryladine> You've not alocated enough to minecraft then. Check your java settings.
#2561 [16:17] <Ryladine> I wold help more but I'm a bit busy
#2562 [16:17] <Ryladine> would*
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#2564 [16:17] <Thunder7102> How do you check Java settings?
#2565 [16:18] <gunther> im a member and it says im not premium
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#2567 [16:18] <RobinJ24> whats your username?
#2568 [16:18] <gunther> noah142
#2569 [16:19] <RobinJ24> !paid noah142
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#2571 [16:19] <RobinJ24> did you buy a gift code?
#2572 [16:19] <RobinJ24> from somewhere other than minecraft.net
#2573 [16:19] <gunther> no do i need one
#2574 [16:19] <Jasmeen> RobinJ24, did you have a look at my error?
#2575 [16:19] <RobinJ24> Jasmeen Yeah, and I have no idea how to read those things, lol
#2576 [16:19] <RobinJ24> im sure someone who does is online though
#2577 [16:20] <Jasmeen> :( Who is it
#2578 [16:20] <RobinJ24> gunther: so you bought it from minecraft.net with your card/paypal or something?
#2579 [16:20] <RobinJ24> Jasmeen Umm......
#2580 [16:20] <tomster147> every 5 minutes my minecraft crashes and leaves a file named "hs_err_pid3868" how can I fix this?
#2581 [16:20] <RobinJ24> maybe Ryladine
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#2583 [16:20] <gunther> no i dont have one and i need one it says
#2584 [16:20] <RobinJ24> gunther You haven't bought minecraft?
#2585 [16:21] <Jasmeen> Ryladine, can you help me please?
#2586 [16:21] <gunther> i need a code can someone get me one for free
#2587 [16:22] <tomster147> is there a person who can help me at this time?
#2588 [16:22] <RobinJ24> no gunther..
#2589 [16:23] <gunther> y plzzzz i need to play because my thing got hacked and i need one
#2590 [16:23] <mariettagecko> Sure, gunther, I can get you a code. Keep in mind that I don't warrant that it'll be any good. Unless, of course, you go to minecraft.net and buy a good code.
#2591 [16:23] <mariettagecko> Here, let me make up a code off the top of my head.
#2592 [16:24] <gunther> no i need a good one a real one
#2593 [16:24] <mariettagecko> Then you need to buy it from minecraft.net
#2594 [16:24] <gunther> can u get it i will do anything
#2595 [16:24] <mariettagecko> no
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#2597 [16:24] <gunther> plzzz
#2598 [16:25] <mariettagecko> Welcome to my plonk file, gunther.
#2599 [16:25] <tomster147> is there any support people on that can help me
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#2602 [16:27] <gunther> plunk file
#2603 [16:27] <Thunder7102> What happens if your cmd does not recognize the javaw command?
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#2607 [16:29] <tomster147> umm and people online that can help me with my minecraft. problem?
#2608 [16:29] <gunther> ya
#2609 [16:30] <tomster147> your the one thats begging for a code
#2610 [16:30] <tomster147> ur no help
#2611 [16:30] <Thunder7102> I am trying to assign more RAM to Minecraft. Does anyone know how to do it? I am in java settings
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#2614 [16:35] <tomster147> .
#2615 [16:37] <RobinJ24> Thrae?
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#2617 [16:38] <tomster147> Hello can someone help me my minecraft crashes every 5 minutes and leaves a file called hs_err_pid3868.
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#2619 [16:39] <Modjunior> next problem !
#2620 [16:39] <Modjunior> Have a problrm
#2621 [16:40] <tomster147> we all do no one here atm can help
#2622 [16:40] <lemon-rev> tomster147 java.com < update
#2623 [16:40] <Modjunior> thats bad
#2624 [16:40] <lemon-rev> Modjunior we cant read minds
#2625 [16:41] <tomster147> Hello can someone help me my minecraft crashes every 5 minutes and leaves a file called hs_err_pid3868. will updating my java help?
#2626 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> tomster147: did you not like your first answer?
#2627 [16:42] <tomster147> well i dont it befor eand didnt help
#2628 [16:42] <tomster147> done
#2629 [16:42] <lemon-rev> ok
#2630 [16:42] <DopeGhoti> tomster147: any mods?
#2631 [16:42] <tomster147> no modes
#2632 [16:42] <Modjunior> every time when i open minecraft and lock in there comes an file called hs_err_pid
#2633 [16:42] <Boreeas> ??> modjunior win/javara
#2634 [16:42] <VoxelHead> modjunior: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2635 [16:42] <VoxelHead> modjunior: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#2636 [16:42] <tomster147> i forced updated a few times aswell
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#2639 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> ??> tomster147 win/reinst
#2640 [16:43] <VoxelHead> tomster147: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2641 [16:43] <VoxelHead> tomster147: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2642 [16:43] <Boreeas> Modjunior: Install that program, run it, remove all java installations, then reinstall java from java.com
#2643 [16:43] <tomster147> what do you mean win/reinst?
#2644 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> tomster147: look at, read, and follow the instuctions immediately following what I said, from VoxelHead
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#2646 [16:44] <tomster147> ok ty very much
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#2648 [16:45] <Modjunior> Boreeas i did it thousand times
#2649 [16:46] <Boreeas> ??> modjunior win/dxdiag
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#2651 [16:46] <VoxelHead> modjunior: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2652 [16:46] <VoxelHead> modjunior: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2654 [16:50] <tomster147> VoxelHead i did what u said and i still ceashed. do i need to do it more then once?
#2655 [16:51] <tomster147> crashed
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#2657 [16:53] <mib_ebulm9> hello, do you spik spanish??
#2658 [16:54] <mib_ebulm9> i've got a probblem
#2659 [16:55] <mib_ebulm9> when y go to break a block
#2660 [16:55] <mib_ebulm9> the block doesn t braks
#2661 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_ebulm9 smp/spawnzone
#2662 [16:55] <VoxelHead> mib_ebulm9: (smp/spawnzone) The spawn zone is, as a way to avoid griefing, protected from any changes by any users who are not administrators. Try moving away from the spawn area.
#2663 [16:55] <lemon-rev> mib_ebulm9 are you on a server
#2664 [16:55] <VoxelHead> mib_ebulm9: (smp/spawnzone) If you are the server admin, see smp/opyourself
#2665 [16:55] <lemon-rev> ?
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#2667 [16:57] <mib_ebulm9> ok, thenk you very much
#2668 [16:57] <RobinJ24> What does it take to be an official helper? I dont think I can be (cause I suck at helping people with minecraft issues most of the times) but im curious
#2669 [16:58] <RobinJ24> I dont think I can be ONE*
#2670 [16:58] <RobinJ24> time* I suck at English today
#2671 [16:58] <tomster147> crashed/
#2672 [16:58] <lemon-rev> RobinJ24 if you stick around you can do what is possible to help out if no one is about
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#2674 [16:59] <lemon-rev> but we hve people over this channel that help out at different time periouds during the day, and if you stick around you can learn the trouble with mc, and then help others to understand it
#2675 [16:59] <RobinJ24> Yeah I'm here all the time and help people when I can
#2676 [17:00] <RobinJ24> So if I learn enough in the future, I could be an official helper with voice status?
#2677 [17:00] <mib_ebulm9> how i need moving away from the spawn area??
#2678 [17:00] <lemon-rev> mib_ebulm9 yes about 15 tiles
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#2680 [17:03] <mib_ebulm9> oks thank you
#2681 [17:03] <mib_ebulm9> i'm sorry, my english its not very well
#2682 [17:04] <MrHPlus> hello. need some technical help.
#2683 [17:05] <lemon-rev> MrHPlus yes ?
#2684 [17:06] <MrHPlus> installed minecraft yesterday, updated all drivers and java and I've got everything running normally now, except that sometimes my character cannot move for a few seconds. I'm just stuck in place, all things happening around me at normal game speed, but the movement controls don't work, then suddenly, they will "catch up" and I can walk around again.
#2685 [17:06] <MrHPlus> happens about ever 5 minutes or so.
#2686 [17:06] <MrHPlus> I've check the memory, plenty there.
#2687 [17:06] <lemon-rev> MrHPlus what version of minecraft are you running ?
#2688 [17:06] <MrHPlus> 1.8
#2689 [17:07] <lemon-rev> MrHPlus its a known bug, with 1.8, i can only tell you to either get a pre release version which we dont support, or wait for 1.9
#2690 [17:07] <MrHPlus> okay. one more thing.
#2691 [17:08] <tomster147> i been ask for a while now but i will ask again every 5 minutes my minecraft crashes and leaves a file on my desktop. voxelhead said to (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except the save files i did so and i still
#2692 [17:08] <tomster147> crash plz help
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#2694 [17:09] <lemon-rev> tomster147 did it reload the files back up, can you get into the map
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#2696 [17:09] <MrHPlus> sometimes, chunks fail to load and I can see through the world. I know this is a known bug as well, but for me, when this happens, chunks also start failing to dissappear when mined. I mine something, but it still looks like it's there, as if failing to resolve. I move into the space I've just mined and I can see the whole world failing down to bedrock.
#2697 [17:09] <mib_ebulm9> I moving away from the spawn area and the blocks doesnt breaks
#2698 [17:09] <tomster147> yes
#2699 [17:09] <tomster147> i would show whats in the file but only in a pm
#2700 [17:09] <lemon-rev> mib_ebulm9 then talk to the person in control on the server to allow you to modifiy blocks,
#2701 [17:09] <thekmaster15> Hey guys! Can someone help me? Whenever I try to start up mc, it black screens and crashes after I log in. I have an error report, if necessary, but that is all Greek to me.
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#2703 [17:10] <thekmaster15> Its 100% fresh by the way
#2704 [17:10] <lemon-rev> tomster147 you dont need to show me anything just tell me exactly your trouble
#2705 [17:10] <lemon-rev> thekmaster15 dude, java.com < do an update
#2706 [17:10] <mib_ebulm9> when i can break blocks??
#2707 [17:11] <tomster147> I start minecraft. I go on singal player. after 5 minutes or so my minecraft crashes.
#2708 [17:11] <thekmaster15> My java is up to date. I was just playing an hour ago.
#2709 [17:11] <lemon-rev> mib_ebulm9 talk to the moderator on the server we cant help server issules unless your playing singleplayer
#2710 [17:11] <lemon-rev> tomster147 windows / mac ?
#2711 [17:11] <thekmaster15> Windows 7
#2712 [17:11] <tomster147> windows
#2713 [17:12] <lemon-rev> ??> tomster147 win/dxdiag
#2714 [17:12] <VoxelHead> tomster147: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2715 [17:12] <VoxelHead> tomster147: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2717 [17:12] <tomster147> ok i will try that
#2718 [17:12] <mib_ebulm9> how i can talk qhitn the moderator
#2719 [17:13] <lemon-rev> mib_ebulm9 press the t key to type to the persons around you
#2720 [17:13] <mib_ebulm9> thanks
#2721 [17:13] <thekmaster15> Has anyone encountered my problem?
#2722 [17:13] <RobinJ24> I have no idea how you can understand what hes saying lemon-rev lol
#2723 [17:13] <lemon-rev> RobinJ24 thats because hes spanish i belive
#2724 [17:13] <flippinfryarts> noes i has mac 1.5.8!!!!! D:
#2725 [17:14] <thekmaster15> I have an error report, if it helps.
#2726 [17:14] <lemon-rev> thekmaster15 do a win/dxdiag like a told tomster147 please
#2727 [17:14] <MrHPlus> sometimes, chunks fail to load and I can see through the world. I know this is a known bug as well, but for me, when this happens, chunks also start failing to dissappear when mined. I mine something, but it still looks like it's there, as if failed to resolve. I move into the "space" I've just mined and I can see the whole world down to the beyond.
#2728 [17:15] <mib_ebulm9> i'm in the premium version, in singleplayer
#2729 [17:15] <lemon-rev> MrHPlus are you playing on a server ?
#2730 [17:15] <MrHPlus> nope, just singleplayer.
#2731 [17:15] <tomster147> http://pastebin.com/0TGdrv0b here voxelhead
#2732 [17:15] <lemon-rev> mib_ebulm9 then hold down the mouse untill the block completely disappears
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#2734 [17:16] <mib_ebulm9> oks
#2735 [17:16] <frogzilla> i need codes
#2736 [17:16] <lemon-rev> tomster147 < NVIDIA GeForce GT 240M < please goto nvidia.com < goto download / download drivers / then select your driver and download the newest driver pelase
#2737 [17:17] <Ryladine> frogzilla: codes?
#2738 [17:17] <lemon-rev> please install and run
#2739 [17:17] <mib_ebulm9> ok
#2740 [17:17] <Thrae> tomster147: http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-280.26-whql-driver.html
#2741 [17:17] <lemon-rev> lol, now everyone comes on DOH!!!!!
#2742 [17:17] <tomster147> thrae is that the link?
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#2744 [17:17] <Ryladine> lol I'm not really here :)
#2745 [17:17] <frogzilla> ya gift codes
#2746 [17:17] <MrHPlus> all my drivers are up to date for my VFX: GeForce GT 430.
#2747 [17:17] <MIKEY> I have a problem with my mod
#2748 [17:17] <Thrae> tomster147: Yes
#2749 [17:17] <RobinJ24> What is the URL that checks if a user has paid for minecraft?
#2750 [17:18] <Ryladine> frogzilla: Buy them from eminecraft.net
#2751 [17:18] <thekmaster15> Here is the dxdiag and the error report is below it. http://pastebin.com/4XAK9qiC
#2752 [17:18] <MrHPlus> still, the block fails to dissappear when mined and everything behind it will fail to res.
#2753 [17:18] <Ryladine> minecraft.net*
#2754 [17:18] <MrHPlus> I can see caves and stuff, all the way down to the bedrock, but the things in front of me are just invisible.
#2755 [17:18] <frogzilla> i dont have any money and people get them for free
#2756 [17:19] <RobinJ24> frogzilla for the last time, no one will buy you a gift code
#2757 [17:19] <tomster147> ty i am dl it now ty for the help and i hope this works
#2758 [17:19] <thekmaster15> lemon-rev http://pastebin.com/4XAK9qiC there is the dxdiag and the error report below it.
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#2760 [17:19] <lemon-rev> thekmaster15 dude, if you have updated your java. and done a reinstll of mc, then your video driver is 2007 could be the trouble and i cant see a newer one about
#2761 [17:20] <Ryladine> lemon-rev: Is it an ATI carD?
#2762 [17:20] <MIKEY> Any one know why the plans folder doesnt work in the planes mod?
#2763 [17:20] <MrHPlus> nope. nvidia.
#2764 [17:20] <lemon-rev> no intell crap
#2765 [17:20] <Ryladine> Ah
#2766 [17:20] <Ryladine> Lol
#2767 [17:20] <thekmaster15> i cant seem to understand how i was on not even an hour ago though..
#2768 [17:20] <Ryladine> ATI has a set of legacy drivers, you may look for something like that
#2769 [17:21] <lemon-rev> i cant belive they give win 7 and vista with like boards from the 1960's
#2770 [17:21] <Ryladine> Can I see the DX Diag?
#2771 [17:21] <lemon-rev> Ryladine its more like just get a better graphcis driver
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#2773 [17:21] <MIKEY> is there another # thing?
#2774 [17:21] <frogzilla> i need a code
#2775 [17:21] <MIKEY> that can help with mods?
#2776 [17:21] <lemon-rev> MIKEY we dont do mods
#2777 [17:21] <MIKEY> cause youtube is horrible
#2778 [17:21] <gunther> excuse me i downloaded xiawaker texture pack but i dont know how to place it as my texture pack
#2779 [17:21] <Ryladine> Greyvulpine: Can you get rid of frogzila? He's only here to beg for gift codes.
#2780 [17:21] <MIKEY> who does?
#2781 [17:22] <Thrae> thekmaster15: What's the exact model number? Is this really an Inspiron?
#2782 [17:22] <lemon-rev> MIKEY try /j #risucraft
#2783 [17:22] <mib_ei14zj> installation says that it has been moved or deleted?
#2784 [17:22] <thekmaster15> It is a dell inspirion. Where can i see the model number Thrae
#2785 [17:22] <Thrae> thekmaster15: Bottom....your BIOS is reporting "Inspiron 505", but I can't find that model on Dell's support site
#2786 [17:23] <mib_ei14zj> help for installation
#2787 [17:23] <Ryladine> thekmaster15: The model is likely on a sticker on the back of the machine.
#2788 [17:23] <gunther> excuseme thrae ive talked to you before about a problem so can you help me my computer wont let me use xiawaker texture pack
#2789 [17:23] * lemon-rev as i said windows 7 and vista os's operating on 1960 technology
#2789 [17:23] <Ryladine> Thats surpurprizing lol
#2790 [17:23] <lemon-rev> gunther no, goto #risucraft for help
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#2792 [17:23] <lemon-rev> lol
#2793 [17:24] <Thrae> gunther: Is that an HD texture pack?
#2794 [17:24] <mib_ei14zj> is there contact info (email for mojang?)
#2795 [17:24] <thekmaster15> i found a sticker that says intel pentium inside Windows 7. ?
#2796 [17:24] <lemon-rev> mib_ei14zj goto minecraft.net and goto help tab and go though it
#2797 [17:24] <Thrae> mib_ei14zj: If you can't download the launcher you're probably trying to use something like Internet Explorer, which sucks. Try Firefox -- http://www.getfirefox.com
#2798 [17:25] <Thrae> mib_ei14zj: We get errors like that from stupid browsers
#2799 [17:25] <Ryladine> lemon-rev: The Insperon 505 is a cheap looking laptop, it looks like it's always paired with a letter like D or M
#2800 [17:25] <lemon-rev> hm, paired with d / m ? wtf
#2801 [17:26] <lemon-rev> i dont know d m ?
#2802 [17:26] <Ryladine> Letters as part of the model number lol
#2803 [17:26] <lemon-rev> hm
#2804 [17:26] <Thrae> Ryladine: "D" would be Latitude, and there is a Latitude D505
#2805 [17:26] <Ryladine> lik D505
#2806 [17:26] <lemon-rev> ok
#2807 [17:26] <Ryladine> Ah
#2808 [17:26] <Thrae> I mean 545
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#2810 [17:27] <Thrae> thekmaster15: Whoops, I said 505 but your BIOS is actually reporting 545...which I still can't find
#2811 [17:27] <Ryladine> Ah that might explain it, Lemon the insperon 505 is not a computer, it's a motherboard.
#2812 [17:27] <gunther> thrae i went there but it wont let me say anything
#2813 [17:27] <thekmaster15> Im totally lost..
#2814 [17:27] <Thrae> ??> gunther irc
#2815 [17:27] <VoxelHead> gunther: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#2816 [17:27] <VoxelHead> gunther: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#2817 [17:27] <lemon-rev> Ryladine as i said, computer ie motherboard 1960's lol, too old to care
#2818 [17:28] <Ryladine> lol
#2819 [17:29] <Thrae> thekmaster15: OK, I think you have an Inspiron 1545, one sec
#2820 [17:29] <gunther> well this is no help i guess after like three months of trying to use xiawaker i guess i cant i give
#2821 [17:29] <thekmaster15> okay
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#2823 [17:29] <gunther> none of them i can chat
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#2826 [17:31] <Thrae> thekmaster15: https://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?os=W764&catid=6&dateid=-1&impid=-1&osl=EN&typeid=-1&formatid=-1&servicetag=&SystemID=INSPIRON1545&hidos=W764&hidlang=en&TabIndex=&scanSupported=True&scanConsent=False
#2827 [17:31] <Thrae> thekmaster15: Download and install both the Intel driver and the ATI driver under Video.
#2828 [17:32] <thekmaster15> okay, be right back
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#2830 [17:33] <frogonia> how i can open the big inventori??
#2831 [17:33] <Thrae> gunther: You need to register your nick. Follow Voxelhead's instructions or go to #help.
#2832 [17:33] <RobinJ24> frogonia What do you mean?
#2833 [17:33] <Thrae> frogonia: Need to be in Creative Mode while playing Beta, then it replaces the standard inventory.
#2834 [17:33] <RobinJ24> Oh that
#2835 [17:34] <frogonia> in the premium version, in singleplayer the inventory isn't the personaje
#2836 [17:34] <frogonia> sorry, my englis is not very well
#2837 [17:35] <Thrae> frogonia: The map needs to be made with Creative Mode in Single Player -- http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Creative_(Game_Mode)
#2838 [17:35] <mib_ei14zj> downloaded on firefox but still says not downloaded for the game?
#2839 [17:36] <frogonia> no, i wont create a arm and i necesite a square 9x9
#2840 [17:36] <frogonia> 3x3, sorry
#2841 [17:36] <frogonia> and not 2x2
#2842 [17:36] <mib_ei14zj> can i please have some help?
#2843 [17:37] <Thrae> mib_ei14zj: OK, so when you go into the launcher it's saying "Not Downloaded"? Are you able to log into the launcher?
#2844 [17:38] <thekmaster15> Thrae. I click "download for both, and it brings up a window that says "There are no files to download. Please go to Drivers and Downloads to select file(s)." :/
#2845 [17:39] <mib_ei14zj> i can login to the game but it says it's not downloaded
#2846 [17:39] <Thrae> thekmaster15: OK, do it the old fashioned way -- either let support.dell.com auto-detect your system or go into Laptops->Inspiron->1505, then filter to Windows 7 64-bit and Video
#2847 [17:39] <Thrae> mib_ei14zj: OK, are you using Windows?
#2848 [17:39] <thekmaster15> Wait. This is on a desktop... Not a laptop... ? Thrae
#2849 [17:40] <Thrae> thekmaster15: Oh it's a desktop? Hmm...
#2850 [17:40] <frogonia> i need make a arm
#2851 [17:40] <mib_ei14zj> Thrae: yeah
#2852 [17:40] <frogonia> and i need a square 3x3 in the inventori
#2853 [17:40] <frogonia> how i can have it??
#2854 [17:40] <RobinJ24> You mean for crafting? Make a crafting table
#2855 [17:41] <Thrae> thekmaster15: OK, I need you to find the model number, probably on the tower -- it's either 545MT or 545ST
#2856 [17:41] <Thrae> thekmaster15: Or you could just tell me if you have a slim tower (ST) or regular tower (MT)
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#2858 [17:42] <thekmaster15> the tower is about 7 inches wide. Not sure how to tell if its a slim or regular
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#2860 [17:43] <Thrae> Don't you know the size of a regular computer?
#2861 [17:43] <Thrae> I mean, they're shown in movies, TV, etc.
#2862 [17:43] <Thrae> A Slim tower is both slim and small
#2863 [17:43] <Thrae> Not regular size.
#2864 [17:44] <thekmaster15> the tower or the moniter? Its a basic size computer. So id assume regular tower
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#2866 [17:44] <Kidney> ok i just started useing linux and mincraft wont run on it after i log in it crashes
#2867 [17:45] <thekmaster15> thrae ill be right back. Thanks for all your help so far. ill be back.
#2868 [17:45] <mib_ei14zj> can i have some help? i am using windows
#2869 [17:45] <Thrae> thekmaster15: Found your graphics driver -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18228/a08/win7_64_1512754.exe
#2870 [17:45] <Kidney> i dont think any 1 is on
#2871 [17:45] <Thrae> ??> mib_ei14zj win/reinst/bat
#2872 [17:45] <VoxelHead> mib_ei14zj: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2873 [17:45] <VoxelHead> mib_ei14zj: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
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#2875 [17:46] <Kidney> is any 1 here any good with linux mint
#2876 [17:47] <Kidney> minecraft wont work for me on it
#2877 [17:47] <Thrae> Kidney: Depends what the problem is...
#2878 [17:47] <tomster147> ty ty ty ty so much now i can play minecraft in peace
#2879 [17:47] <Kidney> well when i run it it starts up fine then it crashes after it checks for updates
#2880 [17:47] <Thrae> Kidney: Paste the crash report to www.pastebin.com and give us the link
#2881 [17:48] <Kidney> idk how 2 copy text in linux i just started using it 3 days ago
#2882 [17:48] <mib_ei14zj> VoxelHead: how do i do that
#2883 [17:48] <Thrae> mib_ei14zj: Download the batch file VoxelHead linked and run it
#2884 [17:49] <mib_ei14zj> ok thanks :)
#2885 [17:51] <DopeGhoti> Kidney: select to copy, middle-click to paste, but if it's a lost of text, please user pastebin.com
#2886 [17:51] <mib_ei14zj> i'm staying on but will be back soon
#2887 [17:51] <Kidney> ok i will just a sec
#2888 [17:51] <Wug> DopeGhoti: I have posted my research
#2889 [17:52] <Wug> tweet mojang furiously: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmetfX_cWT0
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#2891 [17:54] <VoxelHead> mmm hatman
#2892 [17:54] <Kidney> http://pastebin.com/dB4sUr8M that should do it
#2893 [17:54] <Kidney> let me know thx
#2894 [17:56] <Kidney> i pasted twice sry about that
#2895 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> Kidney: looks like you already have another LWJGL program running
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#2897 [17:56] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
#2898 [17:56] <Kidney> dope whats that ?
#2899 [17:57] <Kidney> im new to linux
#2900 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> LWJGL is a Lightweight Java Game Library
#2901 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> Kidney: try running the following command in a terminal window: `killall -9 java`
#2902 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> Kidney: then try starting MC again.
#2903 [17:57] <Kidney> i dont have any thing running at all i close everything uless its in the back ground
#2904 [17:57] <VoxelHead> itless us
#2905 [17:57] <Kidney> i have like 8 times
#2906 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> you've already tried that command eight times?
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#2908 [17:58] <Kidney> command? ijust right click and tell it 2 open in java
#2909 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> Kidney: try running the following command in a terminal window: `killall -9 java`
#2910 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> Kidney: then try starting MC again.
#2911 [17:59] <Kidney> it opens and crashes after it updates
#2912 [17:59] <mib_lrialm> can anyone get me a free gift code
#2913 [17:59] <Kidney> idk the commands for it
#2914 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> mib_lrialm: Sure, for US$25
#2915 [17:59] <mib_lrialm> k
#2916 [17:59] <Kidney> lol
#2917 [18:00] <mib_lrialm> are u getting it
#2918 [18:01] <TheNytangel> mib_lrialm, right after you give us $25
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#2920 [18:02] <Kidney> it still had the same error
#2921 [18:02] <Kidney> crah i mean
#2922 [18:02] <Kidney> crash
#2923 [18:03] <thekmaster15> Hey thrae im back. So just download that graphics card
#2924 [18:03] <thekmaster15> ?
#2925 [18:04] <mib_lrialm> how will i do tht
#2926 [18:05] <Kidney> so is any 1 looking at my problem?
#2927 [18:06] <RobinJ24> Seriously can someone ban mib_lrialm ?
#2928 [18:07] * Kealper kicked mib_lrialm from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_lrialm :This is a technical support chat for those who have already bought the game. We will not buy the game for you, have a nice day.)
#2929 [18:07] <RobinJ24> he's been using like 5 different nicks lol..he even pmed me twice
#2930 [18:07] <mariettagecko> ...
#2931 [18:07] <Kidney> i bought it but i cant get it 2 run in linux mint
#2932 [18:07] <Kealper> if he comes back i'll ip range ban him
#2933 [18:07] <mariettagecko> good grief.
#2934 [18:08] <RobinJ24> Kidney Linux is a b...utch
#2935 [18:08] <mariettagecko> uh huh
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#2937 [18:09] <RobinJ24> Im using linux too..
#2938 [18:09] <Kealper> Kidney: have you installed the "restricted" drivers?
#2939 [18:09] <Kidney> its cool i think ..this is the first issue ive had with it
#2940 [18:09] <mariettagecko> Is that guy Gunther?
#2941 [18:09] <Kidney> idk how to go about doing that
#2942 [18:09] <Kealper> Kidney: are you running Linux Mint 11?
#2943 [18:09] <Kidney> yes
#2944 [18:10] <Kealper> Kidney: who makes your graphics card? nvidia or ati?
#2945 [18:10] <Kidney> nvidia
#2946 [18:10] <Kealper> one moment, please
#2947 [18:10] <Kidney> yup and thx
#2948 [18:12] <Kealper> hmm...
#2949 [18:12] <Kealper> Kidney: have you tried just going to htp://nvidia.com and seeing if you can install the latest drivers from there?
#2950 [18:13] <Kidney> no i didnt think it could be a graphics driver but ill check if not ill b back lol
#2951 [18:14] <Kealper> usually if it doesn't work on Linux it's due to either Java being dumb or having only basic graphics drivers
#2952 [18:15] <Kidney> ok ill check it out ...hey is there a way 2 tell what my graphics card is with in linux? otherwise i have 2 reboot into windows
#2953 [18:15] <oldtopman> Kidney: lspci
#2954 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> Kealper: the error is 'java.lang.IllegalStateException: Only one LWJGL context may be instantiated at any one time.' and Kidney refuses to try `killall -9 java`
#2955 [18:16] <Kealper> DopeGhoti: oh, i wasn't here for when he linked that
#2956 [18:16] <Kidney> idk how to do that im a linux noob
#2957 [18:16] <Kealper> Kidney: before doing anything
#2958 [18:16] <oldtopman> Kidney: Ubuntu right?
#2959 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> Mint.
#2960 [18:16] <Kidney> no mint 11
#2961 [18:16] <oldtopman> hrm
#2962 [18:16] <Kealper> Kidney: open up Terminal and type in this: killall -9 java
#2963 [18:16] <oldtopman> Kidney: Alt-F2
#2964 [18:16] <oldtopman> Kidney: Then type in "xterm" and press enter
#2965 [18:16] <Thunder7102> Random question: If I leave an egg on the ground, will it hatch?
#2966 [18:16] <oldtopman> Thunder7102: No, AFAIK
#2967 [18:16] <DopeGhoti> Thunder7102: no, but if you throw it, it might
#2968 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> Because Minecraft is nothing if not illogical
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#2970 [18:17] <mib_ei14zj> getting the message "cannot connect to minecraft.net"
#2971 [18:17] <Kidney> it said no process found
#2972 [18:17] <oldtopman> Kidney: Try "killall -KILL java"
#2973 [18:18] <Kealper> i think that's what he meant when he tried it
#2974 [18:18] * Kealper is watching wug's video atm
#2974 [18:19] <Kidney> no just now it said no process found but the 1 he just said brough a list of stuff up
#2975 [18:20] <Kidney> im a noob sry im bothering yall so much
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#2978 [18:22] <Kidney> mibs back
#2979 [18:22] <mariettagecko> Hey, Dope.
#2980 [18:22] <mariettagecko> Go check vox's channel.
#2981 [18:22] <Kidney> ill try agian
#2982 [18:22] * Kealper coughs
#2982 [18:23] * Kealper sits waiting, intently staring at mib_lrialm
#2982 [18:23] <Kidney> its still isnt working
#2983 [18:23] * Thunder7102 has 2 trapped chickens.
#2983 [18:23] <Thunder7102> i need tons of eggs to take back to my original house. :P
#2984 [18:23] <mib_ei14zj> I think we may have downloaded beta version rather than windows version, can it be fixed?
#2985 [18:24] <Kealper> Kidney: i would help but unfortunately it would just be the blind leading the deaf in this situation, as my knowledge of Linux is limited, especially on Ubuntu-based distributions, as i've never had serious problems that require debugging on them :/
#2986 [18:24] <mib_lrialm> what
#2987 [18:24] <Kidney> ok thx any way sry for the trouble
#2988 [18:25] <Kealper> mib_ei14zj: well, what file was it that you downloaded?
#2989 [18:27] <mib_ei14zj> to download the game of Minecraft
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#2991 [18:33] <Ogglin> hello
#2992 [18:34] <|Kiikun|> ??> Ogglin dont/pm
#2993 [18:34] <VoxelHead> Ogglin: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#2994 [18:37] <Ogglin> I am only young and have to accounts with the same name (bit of a mistake) i have brought full minecraft on one but do not no the password to the one with full minecraft I have ask a few times to have me password changed but an e-mail hss not come can you help?
#2995 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> ?? account
#2996 [18:39] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#2997 [18:39] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#2998 [18:40] <Ogglin> thank you
#2999 [18:41] <VoxelHead> Bye "ArmEagle"
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#3001 [18:47] * mib_hm5zfd [mib_hm5zfd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3002 [18:47] <mib_hm5zfd> hi
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#3005 [18:48] <noah142> whats up
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#3007 [18:54] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
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#3011 [19:01] <mib_ln7o6s> when i try to load minecraft classic, the screen says "An error occured whil loading the applet. Please contact support to resolve this issue. Fatal error occured(1): Unable to load logo and progressbar images."
#3012 [19:01] <lemon-rev> mib_ln7o6s forget classic buy beta and you get classic as well as beta and all updates
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#3014 [19:01] <mib_ln7o6s> how do I fix this, though?
#3015 [19:02] <lemon-rev> not much you can do , try updating java
#3016 [19:03] <mib_ln7o6s> what version?
#3017 [19:03] <lemon-rev> 6.27 < i think is the latest
#3018 [19:04] <lemon-rev> and not the sdk one
#3019 [19:04] <lemon-rev> java.com < just goto download and do as it says
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#3021 [19:05] <FNemesis_> a
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#3023 [19:06] <mr_boo> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Address family not supported by protocol family: connect</center></font></body></html> error
#3024 [19:06] <mr_boo> wtf
#3025 [19:07] <lemon-rev> ??> mr_boo win/javara
#3026 [19:07] <VoxelHead> mr_boo: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#3027 [19:07] <VoxelHead> mr_boo: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
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#3031 [19:08] <sandcat> hello?
#3032 [19:09] <sandcat> anyone there?
#3033 [19:09] <sandcat> helloooooo
#3034 [19:09] <Thunder7102> can chickens climb ladders?
#3035 [19:09] <VoxelHead> tacos
#3036 [19:09] <sandcat> i need help with classic...
#3037 [19:09] <sandcat> huh?
#3038 [19:10] <Thunder7102> If I wall chickens in and put a ladder inside for me to get out, can they climb them as well?
#3039 [19:10] <VoxelHead> i'm making a cake
#3040 [19:10] <sandcat> chickens cant climb ladders
#3041 [19:10] <sandcat> well
#3042 [19:10] <sandcat> maybe a very small stepped ladder
#3043 [19:10] <sandcat> can i get some help ?
#3044 [19:11] <sandcat> when i try to play classic it gives me the fatal error 7 msg
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#3046 [19:11] <FernixArg> Hi
#3047 [19:11] <sandcat> hi
#3048 [19:12] <sandcat> can you help me with minecraft?
#3049 [19:12] <FernixArg> I tried to log in with my MC account and said "User not premium"
#3050 [19:12] <FernixArg> can anybody help me?
#3051 [19:12] <sandcat> hm
#3052 [19:12] <sandcat> did you buy the game?
#3053 [19:12] <lemon-rev> FernixArg goto minecraft.net goto help and follow the promts
#3054 [19:12] <FernixArg> lemon-rev, I tried doing that
#3055 [19:12] <lemon-rev> sandcat i said update java, and maybe your video drvers
#3056 [19:13] <sandcat> there fully updated
#3057 [19:13] <lemon-rev> if thats still failing then forget classic, as its not going to work
#3058 [19:13] <sandcat> thanks.
#3059 [19:13] <lemon-rev> FernixArg thing is we are not mojang
#3060 [19:13] <sandcat> ik
#3061 [19:13] <sandcat> well, thanks anyway
#3062 [19:13] <sandcat> bye
#3063 [19:13] <FernixArg> oh
#3064 [19:13] <lemon-rev> we cant give you a link to the email becuase i belive they do it a different way now
#3065 [19:14] <FernixArg> so what can I do now?
#3066 [19:14] <lemon-rev> try to find the right place on minecraft.net to put in your trouble
#3067 [19:14] <lemon-rev> or goto twitter or facebook, and see if you can find mojang, people
#3068 [19:15] <FernixArg> thanks
#3069 [19:15] <FernixArg> will minecraftforums.net do?
#3070 [19:15] <lemon-rev> yes
#3071 [19:15] <lemon-rev> i think
#3072 [19:15] <lemon-rev> not totally sure though dude
#3073 [19:15] <FernixArg> thanks, ill try there :)
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#3075 [19:16] <mariettagecko> She's playing half-harped
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#3077 [19:18] <Buckit> I cant DO it!!!!!!!!!!!! I CANT GET BUCKIT ON MY SERVER RAWR!!!!!!!!!!!!! OFJAEIFNJEgawhaeththr
#3078 [19:18] <VoxelHead> I smell of courruption
#3079 [19:18] <Buckit> ?
#3080 [19:18] <Buckit> !check
#3081 [19:19] <Buckit> i want bukcit
#3082 [19:20] <mariettagecko> vox sure does
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#3085 [19:22] <Buckit> GIMY IT
#3086 [19:22] <VoxelHead> Great Scott!
#3087 [19:22] <Thunder7102> is there a certain trajectory that makes chickens appearing more likely when throwing eggs?
#3088 [19:22] <wippler> Hello, we accidently hit "no" when prompted to upgrade from version 1.7 to 1.8 - can we undo this?
#3089 [19:22] <VoxelHead> *sniff* I miss you cupcake
#3090 [19:22] <Buckit> yes
#3091 [19:22] <mariettagecko> ...
#3092 [19:22] <Buckit> lol
#3093 [19:22] <Buckit> stoopid ppl are stoopid
#3094 [19:22] <mariettagecko> there's something wrong here...
#3095 [19:23] <Buckit> DRAGONS! http://t.co/mEg1gntD
#3096 [19:24] <mariettagecko> dragons?
#3097 [19:24] <Buckit> notch adding dragons!
#3098 [19:24] <Thunder7102> ??? That would be horrible. My entire city would burn.
#3099 [19:24] <Buckit> hahhahhsahhdhshaffhhaha
#3100 [19:24] <VoxelHead> doom. doooom.
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#3102 [19:24] <mariettagecko> oh my
#3103 [19:24] <Buckit> they look pre good
#3104 [19:25] <Thunder7102> That and when you found a dragon liar underground == you on fire
#3105 [19:25] <mariettagecko> ...
#3106 [19:25] <Buckit> :O
#3107 [19:25] <VoxelHead> Gadzooks.
#3108 [19:26] <Buckit> me= hungry so me gets foods now byby
#3109 [19:28] <Connor> Does anyone know how I could verify minecraft logins? I want to allow players to link their profile on my website with their minecraft account without involving anything in-game
#3110 [19:28] <Connor> I used to use http://www.minecraft.net/game/getversion.jsp? but it stopped working
#3111 [19:30] <|Kiikun|> Connor: i think you might have a better chance askign in #bukkit
#3112 [19:30] <Connor> ok, ty
#3113 [19:31] <mariettagecko> oh, bukkit
#3114 [19:31] <mariettagecko> ok, yeah
#3115 [19:31] * mariettagecko is going slightly mad.
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#3117 [19:39] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go ),:
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#3121 [19:41] <frogmella> hey it siad it is downloaded
#3122 [19:41] <frogmella> help
#3123 [19:41] <frogmella> help
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#3126 [19:51] <badad> hey i messed up minecraft and have tried doing a clean install but get "update" stalls
#3127 [19:51] <badad> and "can't locate file" for minecraft.jar
#3128 [19:51] * mib_w5njjq [mib_w5njjq@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3129 [19:52] <badad> the file folder exists, but something is not right and I don't know what it is
#3130 [19:52] <badad> yes using mac osx, and have downloaded the jar file for 1.9, but can't get past the inital update download
#3131 [19:53] <badad> also what is "Krankenversicherung" other than my new favorite word
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#3133 [19:54] <badad> the actual message for updates is "failed to launch"
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#3135 [19:55] <badad> the other error message is "updating minecraft...done loading"
#3136 [19:56] <lemon-rev> badad turn off your antivirus
#3137 [19:56] <lemon-rev> scanner
#3138 [19:56] <lemon-rev> and force update
#3139 [19:56] <badad> antivirus is off, how do i force update?
#3140 [19:57] <lemon-rev> badad the 1.9 i think is only for windows, the 1.8.1 is off the offical website minecraft.net you can find the link for the mac install
#3141 [19:57] <lemon-rev> badad you useing web broswer or client ?
#3142 [19:57] <badad> client
#3143 [19:58] <lemon-rev> badad where you login there should be two buttons near there and you should have login and one to force update
#3144 [19:58] <badad> ah oh ya, got it
#3145 [19:59] <badad> well it got to 32% then quit
#3146 [19:59] <badad> weirds
#3147 [19:59] <lemon-rev> hm
#3148 [19:59] <lemon-rev> badad what file is it stoping at ?
#3149 [20:01] <badad> lwjgl_util.jar
#3150 [20:01] <badad> that's the new mobile version i think?
#3151 [20:01] <lemon-rev> badad what os of mac are you running ?
#3152 [20:01] <badad> mac os x v10.5.8
#3153 [20:01] <lemon-rev> hm
#3154 [20:02] <lemon-rev> badad read the topic, ill try and get the info though
#3155 [20:02] <lemon-rev> ??> badad 1.8.5
#3156 [20:02] <lemon-rev> ??> badad 108.5
#3157 [20:02] <lemon-rev> ??> badad 10.8.5
#3158 [20:02] <mortisha> I cant get minecraft to run because its says a file call Verify.dll is missing and I have deleted and redownloaded everything, it still wont work. Java will no longer work either because its says that the verify.dll file is missing
#3159 [20:02] <lemon-rev> ??> badad mac/10.8.5
#3160 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> ?? mac/10.5.8
#3161 [20:02] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#3162 [20:02] <lemon-rev> bah,
#3163 [20:02] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#3164 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> is that what you're looking for?
#3165 [20:02] <lemon-rev> ty dopeghoti lol
#3166 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> \o
#3167 [20:03] <lemon-rev> yes, i think so
#3168 [20:03] <mortisha> can anyone help me
#3169 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> not if you rely on our telepathy
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#3171 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> oh, wait
#3172 [20:04] * DopeGhoti looks up
#3172 [20:04] <mortisha> well i need help
#3173 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> if Java itself is no longer working, mortisha, you need to reinstall Java.
#3174 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/javara
#3175 [20:04] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#3176 [20:04] <lemon-rev> mortisha explane your problem
#3177 [20:04] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#3178 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> lemon-rev: ey did; look up
#3179 [20:04] <lemon-rev> oh
#3180 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> (:
#3181 [20:05] <mortisha> I tried to play minecraft but it said that the verify.dll file was missing
#3182 [20:05] <lemon-rev> try what DopeGhoti surgested :)
#3183 [20:06] <mortisha> my computer says that verify.dll file is missing or damaged, wont let java or minecraft work
#3184 [20:07] <lemon-rev> mortisha please read what DopeGhoti said please
#3185 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> ??> mortisha win/javara
#3186 [20:07] <VoxelHead> mortisha: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#3187 [20:07] <VoxelHead> mortisha: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#3188 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> if Java itself is no longer working, mortisha, you need to reinstall Java.
#3189 [20:07] <mortisha> i have done that it still will not work
#3190 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> The above tool will help you to do so.
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#3192 [20:13] <VoxelHead> Blblblbl.
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#3194 [20:18] <actuallyhelpme> can anyone help me
#3195 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> not if you rely on our telepathy
#3196 [20:20] <actuallyhelpme> stop saying that, java will not work even with javara, the verify.dll file is missing or damaged
#3197 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/profile
#3198 [20:20] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3199 [20:20] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#3201 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> as an aside, without delepathy, how else am I expected to know that actuallyhelpme is the same person as mortishia?
#3202 [20:21] <actuallyhelpme> there ya go, at your smart enough to figure that out
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#3205 [20:29] <mib_lfuq5h> My son has just downloaded the game after purchasing it, we have it on 2 computers. One computer automatically put the minecraft icon on the desktop,while our home computer didn't and to play he has to download the game from scratch each time, how do we get the icon on the home pc to enter the game straight away?
#3206 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> mib_lfuq5h: sometimes Internet Explorer has trouble properly handling the download. Try downloading it with Chrome or Firefox.
#3207 [20:30] <lemon-rev> mib_lfuq5h goto minecraft.net and download the client on your home pc, it should download either two ways either just a file saying minecraft or minecraft.zip please try
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#3209 [20:33] <JohnSteel> Hi i purchased mine craft earlier and it still hasn't appeared on my account
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#3211 [20:33] <DopeGhoti> JohnSteel: how much earlier?
#3212 [20:34] <JohnSteel> like 2 hrs ago maybe
#3213 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> ?? payment
#3214 [20:34] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#3215 [20:34] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
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#3217 [20:34] <JohnSteel> okay but what if i used a visa debit card
#3218 [20:35] <mib_lfuq5h> ty everyone
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#3220 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> Once the money clears your bank, then clears the merchant bank, and gets into Mojang's coffers, you'll be good to go.
#3221 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> mib_lfuq5h: quite welcome!
#3222 [20:35] <JohnSteel> kk i will wait till tomorrow then if it still isnt working i will be back :D
#3223 [20:36] <Yort> hello, my minecraft will run fine for about 5 minutes, but then it will freeze and a popup says "Java Platform SE Binary has stopped working" and i am forced to close. Is there a fix for this?
#3224 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> ??> Yort win/profile
#3225 [20:36] <VoxelHead> Yort: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#3226 [20:36] <VoxelHead> Yort: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#3227 [20:37] <Yort> okay
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#3229 [20:43] <mib_uy29mx> my mine craft is making blocks wierd colers to were i cant play
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#3232 [20:46] <mib_8cnj9p> hello?
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#3234 [20:47] <legohead579> ok i need some help
#3235 [20:50] <legohead579> hello?
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#3237 [20:51] <legohead579> hello?
#3238 [20:51] <Spipmalion> hi
#3239 [20:51] <legohead579> can u help me?
#3240 [20:51] <Spipmalion> i'm looking for a friendly beginner server
#3241 [20:51] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
#3242 [20:52] <legohead579> i need help setting up my server. can anyone help?
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#3244 [20:52] <Spipmalion> like u too
#3245 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> legohead579 smp/serversetup
#3246 [20:52] <VoxelHead> legohead579: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#3247 [20:52] <VoxelHead> legohead579: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#3248 [20:53] <legohead579> ya see i tried that and i tried to follow it but it confused me
#3249 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> how so?
#3250 [20:53] <actuallyhelpme> looks as though some is amiss in my system, like i had said the verify.dll file is missing or corrupted
#3251 [20:53] <legohead579> well, let me tell you what i did and maybe we can find the problem
#3252 [20:54] <legohead579> i downloaded the server app, ran it in its own folder, and then i tried to start the server but i have no idea how and the wiki page was too confusing
#3253 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> if memory serves, the Windows server is a .exe file. Run it.
#3254 [20:55] <legohead579> i did. it created about 6 or 7 files in the folder i made for it.
#3255 [20:57] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: you ran it and it created files. a window should have opened with a bunch of text.
#3256 [20:57] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: would a sais something along the lines a 'preparing spawn' and 'preparing world'
#3257 [20:57] <legohead579> it did.
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#3259 [20:58] <dr_bibble> hello
#3260 [20:58] <dr_bibble> is anybody there?
#3261 [20:58] <actuallyhelpme> yeah
#3262 [20:58] <dr_bibble> can you help?
#3263 [20:58] <actuallyhelpme> me no, can they? i dont think so either
#3264 [20:58] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: THAT is the server. you need to leave it open. what point does the server instructions get confusing?
#3265 [20:58] <dr_bibble> uh
#3266 [20:58] <dr_bibble> can ANYBODY help?
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#3268 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> dr_bibble: not if you rely on our telepathy.
#3269 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#3270 [20:59] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3271 [20:59] <dr_bibble> Can anybody help me?
#3272 [20:59] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3273 [20:59] <dr_bibble> Ok, Whenever I run minecraft it stays at downloading packages, and then says fatal error (4)
#3274 [20:59] <dr_bibble> this was after I deleted my .minecraft folder
#3275 [21:00] <actuallyhelpme> i need help finding a verify.ddl file but no one seems to know what that is
#3276 [21:00] <legohead579> ok so i did all of that, ran the exe and closed it after it was done, then i went into the ops file and put in my username like it said. then it wanted me to go to multiplayer and type localhost which didnt work
#3277 [21:00] <legohead579> tso it got confusing when i tried to test it
#3278 [21:00] <dr_bibble> and then it said it had something to do with lwgj.jar
#3279 [21:00] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: open minecraft and put in the words localhost as the server ip
#3280 [21:01] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: you need to reopen the server :P
#3281 [21:01] <yort> hello can someone assist me
#3282 [21:01] <legohead579> umm ok lemme try brb
#3283 [21:01] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: the minecraft_server.exe needs to be running
#3284 [21:02] <legohead579> ok im gonna let it finish what its doin b4 i open minecraft itself
#3285 [21:03] <legohead579> when i go to type localhost should i do direct connect?
#3286 [21:03] <yort> i reecently asked about an issue where minecraft stopped working at ~5 minutes in, and a popup said "java platform SE binary has stopped responding" I was advised to make another account on my computer to see if it happened again, and it did not
#3287 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> yort: it did not happen under that account?
#3288 [21:03] <yort> correct.
#3289 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> yort: if so, that means something that you have running on your normal user account is getting in the way. Try closing other programs and utilities that you might have running in the background.
#3290 [21:04] <legohead579> ok im on my server so how do i get others to join?
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#3292 [21:04] <yort> how do i access background programs? im on a PC Windows 7
#3293 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> yort: look in the "system tray", which is in the right-hand side of the taskbar on the bottom of your screen. Sometimes you have to unhide them by clicking a "<" button.
#3294 [21:05] <actuallyhelpme> does anybody know how i can get a verify.dll file back
#3295 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> actuallyhelpme: it sounds like that's an actual problem with your operating system, and beyond the scope of #minecrafthelp
#3296 [21:06] <yort> okay i'll try it, thanks.
#3297 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> yort: good luck!
#3298 [21:07] <actuallyhelpme> but you have never encountered some1 with this problem themn
#3299 [21:07] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: your runnign the server on the computer your talkign to us on, correct?
#3300 [21:07] <legohead579> yes
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#3302 [21:08] <DSdavidDS> Hello everyone! I was wondering if anyone knows an easy or simple automated mobtrap I can make
#3303 [21:08] <|Kiikun|> !check 98.249.116.134
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#3305 [21:08] <legohead579> howd you get my ip!
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#3307 [21:09] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: ok you need to open ports in your firewall and portforward in your router.
#3308 [21:09] <|Kiikun|> legohead579:i typed /dns legohead579
#3309 [21:09] <legohead579> what? where do i type that?
#3310 [21:10] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: the /dns thing was howi got your ip :P
#3311 [21:10] <legohead579> anyway why do i need to open my firewall?
#3312 [21:10] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: because your having people connect to your computer
#3313 [21:11] <legohead579> ok how do i do that.
#3314 [21:11] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: you just need to allow the server port itself inward access
#3315 [21:11] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: depends on the firewall you use :P
#3316 [21:12] <legohead579> ummm windows firewall? :/
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#3319 [21:13] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: you know how to get into the windows firewall settings?
#3320 [21:13] <Yort> hi, this is the guy with the "java se binary" trouble. On my regular account, i tried deleting stopping some background programs, but it didn't do any good
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#3322 [21:13] <Yort> are there any i should look out for?
#3323 [21:13] <legohead579> umm i can try. isnt it in the control panel
#3324 [21:14] <guest-0-70369> Hello thar
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#3326 [21:14] <dpete> i have purchased the game and now cant get it downloaded to play? what else can i do?
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#3329 [21:15] <|Kiikun|> !check 98.249.116.134
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#3331 [21:15] <|Kiikun|> :/
#3332 [21:15] * |Kiikun| was just checkign own settings and doesnt have a specific firewall exceptuion.
#3332 [21:15] <guest-0-70369> So I have an odd problem, I cannot connect to a server running the new pre-release. It's been this way since 1.8.1, or whatever it was. Everything is set up the same, minus the newer client/server, Anyone else run into these problems =/?
#3333 [21:16] <legohead579> u were on my server? wow i didnt even kno.
#3334 [21:16] <guest-0-70369> Like, did something change that I am missing :(?
#3335 [21:17] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: i weasnt on it :P
#3336 [21:17] <|Kiikun|> legohead579: i was checking out my own settings.
#3337 [21:17] <legohead579> o. well do i need to mess with my firewall or what?
#3338 [21:18] * |Kiikun| afks
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#3339 [21:22] <yort> hello
#3340 [21:22] <legohead579> hi
#3341 [21:22] <yort> can someone help me
#3342 [21:23] <guest-0-70369> Yawn, anyone run into the "Can't Reach Server" thingy, even though downgrading the server to 1.8, I'm able to connect, but as soon as we update it, shazam, bad things happen and no one can connect. :(
#3343 [21:23] <guest-0-70369> and possibly know a solution, or why it's happening
#3344 [21:24] <legohead579> im waiting on someone to come back.
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#3346 [21:27] <legohead579> are u updating to 1.9 prerelease?
#3347 [21:27] <mib_lb0zh5> me and my brother have purchased the game and waited an hour and it wont let us play
#3348 [21:28] <legohead579> tell me exactly what you are doing
#3349 [21:28] <lemon-rev> ok, mib you have to wait for mojang to process your order and who knows how long that will take
#3350 [21:28] <lemon-rev> guest its happing because the server is only one version and not all
#3351 [21:28] <guest-0-70369> Yeah, it's updated
#3352 [21:29] <lemon-rev> guest to what ?
#3353 [21:29] <legohead579> i dont think servers let you use pre releases.
#3354 [21:29] <guest-0-70369> Client, and Server both updated to 1.9 PR-3
#3355 [21:29] <lemon-rev> guest and whos running it
#3356 [21:29] <guest-0-70369> Even the guy running the server uh
#3357 [21:29] <guest-0-70369> Cannot connect when he types in his IP, but can using Localhost
#3358 [21:29] <lemon-rev> guest get the guy running the server in here
#3359 [21:29] <guest-0-70369> Only on the pre-releases, though
#3360 [21:29] <guest-0-70369> I'm on vent with him, so anything you need I can get
#3361 [21:30] <mib_lb0zh5> can anyone help me out?
#3362 [21:30] <lemon-rev> mib read what i said above
#3363 [21:30] <guest-0-70369> Whatcha need from the guy running the server, Lemon :) I can ask
#3364 [21:31] <lemon-rev> guest tell the guy trying to run the server that if he cant get anyone else on the server then he needs to come in here and check hes server with the auto bots we have in here
#3365 [21:32] <guest-0-70369> Lemon, I doubt it'll work-mainly because he can't even connect to his own server unless he's using Localhost
#3366 [21:32] <lemon-rev> guest that is why we need him to join this channel
#3367 [21:32] <guest-0-70369> When using 1.81 pre release, it can connect just fine, and I can connect as well
#3368 [21:32] <guest-0-70369> Alrighty, I'll get him in here
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#3370 [21:35] <guest-0-70369> There you go, Lemon thats him
#3371 [21:35] <guest-0-36611> hi
#3372 [21:35] <lemon-rev> hi
#3373 [21:35] <lemon-rev> guest 366 type in !check
#3374 [21:35] <guest-0-36611> !check
#3375 [21:35] <guest-0-36611> 1.8.1
#3376 [21:35] <guest-0-70369> Put on 1.9 PR-3
#3377 [21:35] <lemon-rev> guest 366 so you sure your running 1.9.3 ?
#3378 [21:36] <guest-0-36611> 1 sec
#3379 [21:36] <guest-0-70369> He switched back to 1.8.1, just to show that it connects
#3380 [21:36] <|Kiikun|> back...
#3381 [21:36] <lemon-rev> ok
#3382 [21:36] <guest-0-70369> He's loading it up now
#3383 [21:36] <|Kiikun|> and lego left...
#3384 [21:36] <guest-0-36611> !check
#3385 [21:36] * |Kiikun| has to go anyway.
#3385 [21:36] <guest-0-36611> thats with the 1.9.3 prerelease
#3386 [21:37] <lemon-rev> hm,
#3387 [21:37] <guest-0-36611> well technically, what i did was drop the contents of the .zip from minecraft.net
#3388 [21:37] <lemon-rev> thats from the fourm as well
#3389 [21:37] <guest-0-36611> into the previous executable jar
#3390 [21:37] <guest-0-36611> i had from 1.9.1 prerealase
#3391 [21:37] <guest-0-36611> err forums
#3392 [21:38] <lemon-rev> guest i think you maybe have a stuff up version, the zip file you get from fourms is the exe to just flat out run, the jar file you get for the client is a zip file and you rename it to .jar
#3393 [21:38] <lemon-rev> and you put that in your .minecraft / bin folder
#3394 [21:38] <guest-0-36611> trying that now
#3395 [21:39] <guest-0-36611> !check
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#3397 [21:39] <guest-0-70369> !check
#3398 [21:39] <guest-0-70369> Same results running the server =/
#3399 [21:39] <guest-0-36611> im not having issues with the client version, its the server im having problems with
#3400 [21:39] <lemon-rev> guest then you might have to go back to an eariler server then, sorry to hear it though
#3401 [21:39] <guest-0-36611> seems so
#3402 [21:40] <lemon-rev> yea
#3403 [21:40] <guest-0-36611> back to bukkit 1.8.1
#3404 [21:40] <guest-0-70369> Meh, you've no idea what to do Lemon?
#3405 [21:40] <guest-0-70369> Ah well, thanks I suppose.
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#3407 [21:41] <guest-0-36611> !check
#3408 [21:41] <miner> i have a problim with beta 1.8
#3409 [21:41] <lemon-rev> theres not much i can do
#3410 [21:41] <guest-0-70369> I understand
#3411 [21:41] <guest-0-36611> thanks though
#3412 [21:41] <lemon-rev> miner if its in game we prob already know about it
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#3414 [21:42] <lemon-rev> np
#3415 [21:42] <miner> i run for about 15 mins (in browser and program) and the it says"Java.exe has stopped working" im running win xp
#3416 [21:42] <miner> what should i do?
#3417 [21:42] <lemon-rev> miner could be that your out of ram, do you have anything else running when you play mc ?
#3418 [21:43] <miner> nope i close everything down before i play
#3419 [21:43] <miner> and i have 3 gigs of ram and a 100 gb HD with 50 gigs free
#3420 [21:43] <guest-0-70369> !check
#3421 [21:43] <lemon-rev> what broswer are you playing in ?
#3422 [21:44] <miner> google chrome put it also happend in IE and in the .exe
#3423 [21:44] <miner> but* not put
#3424 [21:44] <lemon-rev> hm,
#3425 [21:45] <lemon-rev> miner what version of java do you know you have ?
#3426 [21:45] <miner> not sure but when i check for updates it says "you are running the latest java"
#3427 [21:46] <lemon-rev> miner goto java.com < and download if possible
#3428 [21:47] <miner> already done that didnt work
#3429 [21:47] <lemon-rev> what you mean didnt work?
#3430 [21:47] <miner> it downloaded java but i have the same problim
#3431 [21:48] <lemon-rev> ??> miner win/dxdiag
#3432 [21:48] <VoxelHead> miner: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3433 [21:48] <VoxelHead> miner: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3434 [21:48] <lemon-rev> windows key between ctrl + alt
#3435 [21:49] <miner> what?!?!?
#3436 [21:49] <miner> i can find that
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#3438 [21:50] <lemon-rev> miner click on start / run / type dxdiag / and follow rest of instructions
#3439 [21:50] <miner> nvm got it up
#3440 [21:51] <miner> almost got the info you asked for ready...
#3441 [21:51] <guest-0-70369> Question, in the server-ip= in the uh properties, is it still supposed to be left blank?
#3442 [21:51] <lemon-rev> not sure dude, you might have to look it up on the minecraft fourms , sorry i cant answer
#3443 [21:53] <miner> http://mibpaste.com/2IHcBn
#3444 [21:53] <lemon-rev> ty
#3445 [21:54] <lemon-rev> miner did minecraft work before ?
#3446 [21:55] <miner> no... as i said i just got the game earlier today. and it happend the first time i ran it
#3447 [21:56] <lemon-rev> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us < ok thats where i am , im trying to find your drivers but it seems hard as NVIDIA Quadro NVS 110M < is what your driver is
#3448 [21:56] <lemon-rev> i can see a 210 not a 110
#3449 [21:56] <lemon-rev> oh found it
#3450 [21:57] <miner> when i first installed windows xp (a few weeks ago a downgrade from 7) i downloaded all my drivers from dell.com/drivers selected my laptop moudle and all that
#3451 [21:57] <lemon-rev> ok miner http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_nvs_notebook_winxp_179.48_beta.html < please try and download that and install, btw
#3452 [21:57] <lemon-rev> your driver set is 2008 that driver set is 2009
#3453 [21:58] <miner> download time: 1 hour :(
#3454 [21:59] <miner> any other suggestions? while im waiting for the download?
#3455 [22:00] <lemon-rev> nope
#3456 [22:00] <miner> wait! i have an idea!
#3457 [22:00] <lemon-rev> miner your computer seems to be old if that, able to run, its a laptop and laptops arnt real gameing machines
#3458 [22:01] <miner> a freind of mine downloaded a cracked version of MC on my comp. its in the trash on my desktop. you think if i got rid of it all together it would fix?
#3459 [22:02] <lemon-rev> miner , if you have any old version of minecraft on your computer its best to have it completely remov ed
#3460 [22:02] <miner> btw i got my laptop to run portal and tf2 (which arnt on my comp any more but they ran no lag)
#3461 [22:03] <lemon-rev> minecraft is a completely different game and completely different class from those two games
#3462 [22:04] <miner> hmm... well i know tf2 is a pretty taxing game... whats different about minecraft? (sry im a MC newb)
#3463 [22:05] <guest-0-70369> So uh!
#3464 [22:05] <guest-0-70369> Back to my problem when running 1.8.1, going to yougetsignal.com and checking the default minecraft port (Which is forwarded) it shows the port as open. Opening up 1.9 PR-3, it shows it as closed. Any ideas :)?
#3465 [22:06] <lemon-rev> a setting within the jar file ?
#3466 [22:06] <guest-0-36611> the jar file is the one directly from the forums... is there something I need to modify?
#3467 [22:06] <guest-0-70369> Would such a setting even exist?
#3468 [22:07] <lemon-rev> maybe , to tell you the truth i just expect it to work, when i download both files, and then i make sure the port forwarding is done corectly which it is on your system but, i dont know what they have done to 193
#3469 [22:08] <guest-0-70369> Well, it's done it for all the releases after 1.8.1
#3470 [22:08] <lemon-rev> im not the one to talk to
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#3472 [22:08] <lemon-rev> try joining #minecraft
#3473 [22:09] <guest-0-36611> ok, thanks lemon!
#3474 [22:09] <guest-0-70369> ;P Came here, just assuming the helpful questions would go here, but thanks once again
#3475 [22:09] <lemon-rev> np
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#3478 [22:11] <awesomeman> Hello
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#3480 [22:13] <Sardonicus> any Doom/Goth Metal fans here?
#3481 [22:13] <VoxelHead> Aw... i wanted to explode.
#3482 [22:13] <Sardonicus> the head can talk
#3483 [22:14] <lemon-rev> depends on what you call talking
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#3485 [22:17] <awesomeman> Anyone here?
#3486 [22:17] <lemon-rev> no
#3487 [22:17] <Sardonicus> only boredom
#3488 [22:17] <JohnEBH> Out of the 168 people in the channel. Probably not.
#3489 [22:17] <lemon-rev> lol
#3490 [22:18] * lemon-rev wispers i wish i could find boredom more easily since its hard to come buy with minecraft :P
#3490 [22:18] <JohnEBH> By*
#3491 [22:19] <Sardonicus> yes buy and minecraft don't really match
#3492 [22:19] <Sardonicus> as you can't buy it only hack it
#3493 [22:19] <Sardonicus> well I'm still waiting for Paypal to work
#3494 [22:19] <awesomeman> Ah, noone was speaking, so I assumed those were just idle accounts
#3495 [22:19] <Sardonicus> idle bots :)
#3496 [22:20] <Sinistrahd> beep bloop
#3497 [22:20] <Sardonicus> :D
#3498 [22:20] <awesomeman> Anyway, minecraft will not load on my laptop due to java errors
#3499 [22:20] <VoxelHead> =D
#3500 [22:20] <awesomeman> Specifically along the lines of access denied
#3501 [22:21] <lemon-rev> ??> awesomeman win/javara
#3502 [22:21] <VoxelHead> awesomeman: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#3503 [22:21] <VoxelHead> awesomeman: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
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#3506 [22:23] <awesomeman> I shall report back with results.
#3507 [22:24] * TheNoodle grumbles
#3507 [22:24] <TheNoodle> crappy internet :(
#3508 [22:26] <TheNoodle> So, anyone need help? :P
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#3512 [22:30] <blinky> hello
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#3514 [22:30] <awesomeman> hello
#3515 [22:31] <TheNoodle> Hellow.
#3516 [22:33] <blinky> every time i go into multiplayer on minecraft it says yo must be loggd on to do that even though i am logged in what do i do
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#3519 [22:36] <blinky> helooo
#3520 [22:36] <blinky> ?
#3521 [22:36] <blinky> anybody there
#3522 [22:38] <blinky> hellooooooooooo????????????????
#3523 [22:39] <TheNoodle> Hello blinky.
#3524 [22:39] <TheNoodle> Sorry about the wait :p
#3525 [22:39] <TheNoodle> Okay, firstly, are you playing in the downloaded client or the browser version?
#3526 [22:39] <blinky> its okay im patient
#3527 [22:39] <blinky> client
#3528 [22:40] * mib_zgtgu6 [mib_zgtgu6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3529 [22:41] <blinky> thenoodle are you there
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#3531 [22:41] <TheNoodle> I am >.>
#3532 [22:42] <mib_zgtgu6> anyone else getting minecraft report error after logging in?
#3533 [22:42] <TheNoodle> Remember that I'm actually talking to people in 30+ channels + skype at the moment, sometimes it may take me a moment to reply.
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#3535 [22:42] <TheNoodle> Okay, and when you log in do you press play offline?
#3536 [22:42] <ZnZ47E> downloaded, but can't run it from my computer, only via browser. went to temp folder, but can't find it.
#3537 [22:42] <mib_zgtgu6> nope.
#3538 [22:44] <blinky> yes just not now
#3539 [22:44] <TheNoodle> mib_zgtgu6, put the error on pastebin.
#3540 [22:45] <TheNoodle> blinky, that's not very clear, I just need a yes or no answer.
#3541 [22:46] <mib_zgtgu6> here u go, http://pastebin.com/gLiuZXQg
#3542 [22:46] <blinky> oh sorrno im online
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#3545 [22:47] <blinky> oops
#3546 [22:47] <blinky> i said no im online
#3547 [22:47] <VoxelHead> Incompetence.
#3548 [22:48] <TheNoodle> lol
#3549 [22:48] <TheNoodle> And what is the exact error you recieve when trying to join a server?
#3550 [22:48] <mib_zgtgu6> i cant even log in
#3551 [22:49] <mib_zgtgu6> when i log in, black screen, then the error message pops up
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#3553 [22:49] <TheNoodle> mib_zgtgu6, I'm not talking to you.
#3554 [22:49] <TheNoodle> :p
#3555 [22:50] <mib_zgtgu6> damn it! xD
#3556 [22:50] <TheNoodle> mib_zgtgu6, update java.
#3557 [22:50] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_zgtgu6 win/java
#3558 [22:50] <mib_zgtgu6> erm, how i update java?
#3559 [22:50] <blinky> i can join a server but evry time i move turn around etc it sais whre the chat area is you must be logged on to do that
#3560 [22:50] <TheNoodle> blinky, that's a server plugin.
#3561 [22:50] <TheNoodle> Type /register
#3562 [22:50] <TheNoodle> .
#3563 [22:51] * TheNoodle stabs voxelhead in the face
#3563 [22:51] <blinky> thanks
#3564 [22:51] * VoxelHead stabs TheNoodle back with an exclusivity
#3564 [22:51] <blinky> :D:D:D
#3565 [22:51] <TheNoodle> lol
#3566 [22:51] <TheNoodle> mib_zgtgu6, one sec.
#3567 [22:51] <TheNoodle> ??< index
#3568 [22:52] * mib_3ecf9r [mib_3ecf9r@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3569 [22:52] <mib_zgtgu6> wad?
#3570 [22:54] <TheNoodle> ?? java
#3571 [22:54] <VoxelHead> java: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#3572 [22:54] <VoxelHead> java: Other versions of java: Version 6: ?? getjre/6u27, ?? getjdk/6u27 | Version 7: ?? getjre/7u1, ?? getjdk/7u1
#3573 [22:55] <mib_zgtgu6> so which one i download..?
#3574 [22:55] <mib_zgtgu6> my comp is win7
#3575 [22:55] <mib_zgtgu6> so i use windows x64?
#3576 [22:56] <TheNoodle> Use the x64 version.
#3577 [22:56] <TheNoodle> wait
#3578 [22:56] <TheNoodle> no, don't.
#3579 [22:56] <TheNoodle> x86 :P
#3580 [23:00] <mib_zgtgu6> online or offline?
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#3582 [23:04] <mib_zgtgu6> online or offline????????????????????????????
#3583 [23:05] <TheNoodle> Lol?
#3584 [23:05] <blinky> hi its me again what texture pack would you recemend
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#3586 [23:06] <TheNoodle> The default.
#3587 [23:06] <blinky> other than that
#3588 [23:07] <mib_zgtgu6> if u use other texture pack, it can just lag u
#3589 [23:07] <mib_zgtgu6> noodle, online or offline?
#3590 [23:07] <mib_zgtgu6> i dont know this stuff
#3591 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_zgtgu6 - Either will do the same thing
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#3594 [23:11] <Dragon> When ever I start a world,it goes to the "saving chunks" screen.then it flashes the error screen then goes black.I have tried force updating it and uninstalling my texture pack.I have no mods.please help me.
#3595 [23:11] * mib_zgtgu06 [mib_zgtgu06@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3596 [23:11] <Dragon> hi
#3597 [23:11] <almostroot> Dragon: What version of JAva is installed?
#3598 [23:12] <almostroot> ??> Dragon java/version
#3599 [23:12] <VoxelHead> Dragon: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#3600 [23:12] <VoxelHead> Dragon: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3601 [23:12] <mib_zgtgu06> noodles, its not working
#3602 [23:12] <Dragon> I was here yesterday with a differant name.Ok hold on
#3603 [23:12] <TheNoodle> Could you be more specific?
#3604 [23:13] <mib_zgtgu06> after i installed it alr
#3605 [23:13] <mib_zgtgu06> i entered minecraft
#3606 [23:13] <mib_zgtgu06> still the same error report
#3607 [23:13] <TheNoodle> well at least your java is updated now.
#3608 [23:13] <TheNoodle> :p
#3609 [23:13] <mib_zgtgu06> yeap
#3610 [23:13] <mib_zgtgu06> but i still cant enter~
#3611 [23:14] <TheNoodle> almostroot, thoughts? "org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not create context"
#3612 [23:14] <Dragon> Version 6 Update 27
#3613 [23:14] <almostroot> TheNoodle: Whole error?
#3614 [23:14] <TheNoodle> http://pastebin.com/gLiuZXQg
#3615 [23:14] <blinky> wht texture pack other than default should i get
#3616 [23:14] <almostroot> Dragon: Has Minecraft worked on your computer before?
#3617 [23:14] <Dragon> yes
#3618 [23:14] <TheNoodle> blinky, not really the place, I'd suggest asking in #minecraft
#3619 [23:15] <Dragon> :(
#3620 [23:15] * VoxelHead tickles Dragon
#3620 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> blinky - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/10790-texture-pack-central-mods-list/
#3621 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> blinky - Try one from that list. Try several, try them all
#3622 [23:15] <almostroot> TheNoodle: May be outdated Java, using update 26 not 27. Could try manually updating lwjgl
#3623 [23:15] <Dragon> what does "tickles" mean?
#3624 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> !def tickles
#3625 [23:15] <GreyBot> Word cannot be found.
#3626 [23:15] <Dragon> what
#3627 [23:16] <TheNoodle> almostroot, already updated java, and I can't remember how to update lwjgl :/
#3628 [23:16] <almostroot> ??< index
#3629 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> Pretty sure "can't create context" is a video driver issue
#3630 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> But if you want to try updating lwjgl, try http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
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#3632 [23:17] <TheNoodle> Thanks grey.
#3633 [23:17] <almostroot> Or what GV said. I'm sleep deprived.
#3634 [23:18] <Dragon> hi zelda.nice user name
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#3636 [23:18] <TheNoodle> mib_zgtgu06, your version of lwjgl is three versions out of date so lets update that.
#3637 [23:18] <mib_zgtgu06> o.o
#3638 [23:19] <mib_zgtgu06> okay, so i follow the pastebin thingy?
#3639 [23:19] <TheNoodle> Yep.
#3640 [23:19] <TheNoodle> After that we'll check and update your video card drivers.
#3641 [23:20] <Dragon> hello
#3642 [23:20] <mib_zgtgu06> hi~
#3643 [23:20] <TheNoodle> Hello Dragon.
#3644 [23:20] <Dragon> ineed help.
#3645 [23:21] <Dragon> i need help
#3646 [23:21] <TheNoodle> ??> dragon ask
#3647 [23:21] <VoxelHead> dragon: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3648 [23:21] <VoxelHead> dragon: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3649 [23:22] <Dragon> When ever I start a world,it goes to the "saving chunks" screen.then it flashes the error screen then goes black.I have tried force updating it and uninstalling my texture pack.I have no mods.please help me.this was my first comment.
#3650 [23:23] <mib_zgtgu06> same thing..
#3651 [23:23] <TheNoodle> What operating system are you using?
#3652 [23:23] <mib_zgtgu06> windows7
#3653 [23:23] <Dragon> what is that?
#3654 [23:23] <TheNoodle> mib_zgtgu06, finished updating it yet?
#3655 [23:23] <mib_zgtgu06> yea
#3656 [23:23] <mib_zgtgu06> still cannot
#3657 [23:23] <Dragon> windows7
#3658 [23:23] <TheNoodle> Dragon, an example of an os would be windows 7 or osx.
#3659 [23:23] <TheNoodle> oh okay :p
#3660 [23:24] <TheNoodle> Dragon, do you get any sort of error?
#3661 [23:24] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_zgtgu06 win/dxdiag
#3662 [23:24] <VoxelHead> mib_zgtgu06: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3663 [23:24] <VoxelHead> mib_zgtgu06: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3664 [23:24] <Dragon> I dont think so.
#3665 [23:24] <TheNoodle> In that case, follow voxelheads instructions.
#3666 [23:25] <Dragon> how do i do that?
#3667 [23:26] <mib_zgtgu06> http://pastebin.com/67W4MR0v
#3668 [23:26] <TheNoodle> Follow voxelheads instructions?
#3669 [23:26] <TheNoodle> Well you read them...and do what they tell you to...
#3670 [23:26] <TheNoodle> Thanks mib_zgtgu06, one sec.
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#3672 [23:28] <Dragon> im sorry.i got it now.
#3673 [23:29] <TheNoodle> mib_zgtgu06 http://goo.gl/G4sj1
#3674 [23:30] <TheNoodle> Dragon, once you press submit on pastebin you need to copy the url into this channel.
#3675 [23:30] <Dragon> http://pastebin.com/vHFjCg60
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#3677 [23:32] <peeves> Hello?
#3678 [23:32] <Dragon> hi
#3679 [23:32] <peeves> Anyone out there? I need Minecraft help please :)
#3680 [23:32] <Dragon> ask voxelhed or the noodle
#3681 [23:32] <peeves> K, thanks man~
#3682 [23:33] <TheNoodle> Well that's interesting dragon, nvidia doesn't list your drivers :P
#3683 [23:33] <Dragon> what
#3684 [23:33] <TheNoodle> Dragon, try using the tool on this page http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
#3685 [23:33] <peeves> Sorry to inturupt Noodle, but mind helping me out with some Minecraft?
#3686 [23:33] <TheNoodle> Sure
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#3688 [23:33] <peeves> Awesome :D
#3689 [23:33] <TheNoodle> Oh and voxelhead is a bot, it can't help you by itself :p
#3690 [23:34] <VoxelHead> no I'm not
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#3692 [23:34] <peeves> Lol
#3693 [23:34] <peeves> It's a running error I have. I guess
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#3695 [23:34] <peeves> I download Minecraft, but it doesn't seem to connect to the internet
#3696 [23:34] <mib_zgtgu06> i downloaded that thingy noodle sent me
#3697 [23:34] <mib_zgtgu06> now wad?
#3698 [23:34] <TheNoodle> you'll need to install it.
#3699 [23:35] <mib_zgtgu06> then the bunch of other files?
#3700 [23:35] <TheNoodle> peeves, allow java and minecraft through your firewall.
#3701 [23:35] <TheNoodle> One sec mib_zgtgu06.
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#3703 [23:35] <peeves> K, I'll check and see if they're blocked
#3704 [23:35] <peeves> BRB
#3705 [23:35] <Dragon> after its done,what should i do
#3706 [23:36] <TheNoodle> mib_zgtgu06, did it come with an executable?
#3707 [23:36] <TheNoodle> Dragon, after that try running minecraft again.
#3708 [23:36] <mib_zgtgu06> setup.exe
#3709 [23:36] <Dragon> after its done what should i do
#3710 [23:36] <TheNoodle> <TheNoodle> Dragon, after that try running minecraft again.
#3711 [23:36] * TheNoodle grumbles
#3711 [23:36] <mib_kt9igz> guys i bought minecraft what do i do next
#3712 [23:36] <Dragon> i cant type
#3713 [23:36] <Dragon> :(
#3714 [23:36] <mib_kt9igz> please help me
#3715 [23:36] <mib_zgtgu06> u log in and play?
#3716 [23:36] <VoxelHead> aww
#3717 [23:36] * VoxelHead hugs Dragon
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#3719 [23:37] <peeves> Hmmm, Minecraft isn't listed as a program I can edit related to the Firewall
#3720 [23:37] <mib_zgtgu06> cmon voxel u hug dragon and he quits!
#3721 [23:37] <TheNoodle> mib_kt9igz donwload minecraft from here or from http://minecraft.net
#3722 [23:37] <TheNoodle> !client
#3723 [23:37] <mib_kt9igz> i try to log in and it says cant connect to minecraft server
#3724 [23:37] <mib_zgtgu06> noodle, i run the setup.exe?
#3725 [23:37] <TheNoodle> peeves, you may need to add it, try disabling your firewall completely as a test.
#3726 [23:37] <Dragon> No my window crashed on me
#3727 [23:37] <TheNoodle> mib_zgtgu06, yep.
#3728 [23:37] <peeves> K, thanks
#3729 [23:37] <peeves> BRB
#3730 [23:37] <TheNoodle> mib_kt9igz, is that EXACTLY what it says?
#3731 [23:37] <Draaza> Okay, something is a bit wonky here
#3732 [23:38] <mib_zgtgu06> this computer does not meet the requirements for installing the software
#3733 [23:38] <mib_kt9igz> yeah
#3734 [23:38] <Draaza> *looks at title* Ehh... nevermind, I won't talk about it. It's about the prerelease anyway. lol
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#3736 [23:38] <Dragon> im here.
#3737 [23:38] <TheNoodle> lol Draaza.
#3738 [23:39] <TheNoodle> mib_zgtgu06, thats odd, one sec.
#3739 [23:39] <mib_kt9igz> i run the game i loads type in stuff and says cant conect to minecraft server
#3740 [23:39] <John_Steel> hi I'm back :D i bought the game several hours ago I've never received an email from mine craft so i don't know what is up
#3741 [23:39] <Dragon> :)
#3742 [23:39] <VoxelHead> :o)
#3743 [23:39] <mib_kt9igz> did u play it yet i cant play it
#3744 [23:40] <Dragon> :D
#3745 [23:40] <TheNoodle> John_Steel, how did you pay for minecraft?
#3746 [23:40] <mib_kt9igz> please i need help how do i run minecraft or download
#3747 [23:40] <John_Steel> Visa Debit Card
#3748 [23:40] <Draaza> TheNoodle: without saying much because it's not supported here, it's basically horribly slow, even on "lolcrap" settings and my Power Management set to High Performance. Turning around is being really slow. lol
#3749 [23:40] <TheNoodle> mib_kt9igz, you've already been linked to it.
#3750 [23:40] <John_Steel> it said payment complete then nuffin
#3751 [23:41] <TheNoodle> Draaza, just wait for the official release :p
#3752 [23:41] * calatalee [calatalee@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3753 [23:41] <mib_kt9igz> TheNoodle?????
#3754 [23:41] <Draaza> TheNoodle: Bearing in mind I'm running a 2500K and a 580, so there's NOTHING wrong with the hardware. Also yeah, that's what I'm going to do xD
#3755 [23:41] <TheNoodle> John_Steel call your bank and make sure a payment was made to Mojang AB
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#3757 [23:41] <TheNoodle> mib_kt9igz, are you having trouble clicking links?
#3758 [23:41] <calatalee> ive been waiten bought the game hours ago but still hasent sent email
#3759 [23:41] <Draaza> TheNoodle: From experience (just 1.8 in other words), they've done well at fixing things like this after the prerelease
#3760 [23:42] <TheNoodle> calatalee, how did you pay?
#3761 [23:42] <Dragon> how do you do this TheNoodle
#3762 [23:42] <TheNoodle> Draaza, I agree.
#3763 [23:42] <John_Steel> the website said payment complete would the website lie ?
#3764 [23:42] <calatalee> credit card
#3765 [23:42] <TheNoodle> Dragon, do what? :P
#3766 [23:42] <TheNoodle> John_Steel, yep.
#3767 [23:42] <mib_zgtgu06> should i try 1.9 pre-release and see if it works?
#3768 [23:42] <TheNoodle> calatalee, call your bank and make sure that a pyament has been made to Mojang AB
#3769 [23:42] <Dragon> anwser all of these questions
#3770 [23:42] <TheNoodle> mib_zgtgu06, sure...if you want...I guess.
#3771 [23:42] <TheNoodle> Dragon, well I type at a reasonable speed.
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#3773 [23:42] <calatalee> is tht wat the email should come up as
#3774 [23:42] <John_Steel> its like midnight nobody would answer at the bank
#3775 [23:43] <Dragon> your awesome
#3776 [23:43] <TheNoodle> In that case check your online statement or wait til the moring.
#3777 [23:43] <mib_zgtgu06> having internet problems yesterday doesnt relate to any of my problems right?
#3778 [23:43] <TheNoodle> lol
#3779 [23:43] <mib_kt9igz> Noodle i bought the game then clicked the link clicked play on browser it didnt work clicked download i run it it runs then i type in my stuff and it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#3780 [23:43] <Dragon> seriously
#3781 [23:43] <TheNoodle> mib_kt9igz, now we're getting somewhere. you needed to tell me that before :P
#3782 [23:43] <John_Steel> okay but wut if it has been paid for what then
#3783 [23:43] <calatalee> ok ive tried singing it but it says im not premium wat does dat mean
#3784 [23:43] <TheNoodle> Try disabling your firewall and log in again.
#3785 [23:43] <mib_kt9igz> yeah so what do i do
#3786 [23:44] <TheNoodle> John_Steel, if the payment has been sent from your bank then you're set, your account will be activated in a few dyas max.
#3787 [23:44] <mib_kt9igz> im sry idk anything wheres my firewall
#3788 [23:44] <TheNoodle> In the mean time I can offer you a temp account.
#3789 [23:44] <calatalee> a few days are u kidding me
#3790 [23:44] <John_Steel> a few days its an 8 bit game
#3791 [23:44] <calatalee> really
#3792 [23:44] <Dragon> Im still waiting for the download:D
#3793 [23:44] <John_Steel> like simple stuff lol
#3794 [23:44] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_kt9igz teamviewer
#3795 [23:44] <calatalee> give me the info
#3796 [23:44] <VoxelHead> mib_kt9igz: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#3797 [23:44] <John_Steel> its essentily an mmo flash game
#3798 [23:44] <VoxelHead> mib_kt9igz: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#3799 [23:45] * TheNoodle shrugs
#3799 [23:45] <calatalee> the noodle can i use the temp acount
#3800 [23:45] <mib_zgtgu06> having internet problems yesterday doesnt relate to any of my problems right?
#3801 [23:45] <mib_kt9igz> Noodle what do i do
#3802 [23:45] <Dragon> did you shrug at me TheNoodle
#3803 [23:46] <John_Steel> okay but regardless of that why have i never ever received any type of email from mincraft.net
#3804 [23:46] <TheNoodle> I shrugged at everyone ^_^
#3805 [23:46] <peeves> K, I'm back. Minecraft doesn't appear on the list of things I can add to the firewall, and I disabled the firewall as a test and encountered the same problem. "Error 4"
#3806 [23:46] <Dragon> ask TheNoodle 1 Question at a time guy.Geeezzzz
#3807 [23:46] <TheNoodle> mib_kt9igz, download teamviewer.
#3808 [23:46] <Dragon> ok
#3809 [23:46] <mib_kt9igz> whats teamviewer
#3810 [23:46] <John_Steel> lol
#3811 [23:47] <TheNoodle> mib_kt9igz, voxelhead linked you to it.
#3812 [23:47] <John_Steel> it allows u to let other ppl use your comp
#3813 [23:47] <mib_kt9igz> oh ok but im at the site what do i do
#3814 [23:47] <Dragon> 10 more minutes
#3815 [23:47] <peeves> K, when one downloads Minecraft, how many files should appear in the .Minecraft file?
#3816 [23:47] <TheNoodle> mib_kt9igz, DOWNLAD IT
#3817 [23:47] <peeves> all I have is .bin
#3818 [23:47] <TheNoodle> peeves, a bunch.
#3819 [23:47] <TheNoodle> yeah, it hasn't updated.
#3820 [23:47] <John_Steel> website said an hour till it would be on my account sooo
#3821 [23:47] <peeves> Hmmm...
#3822 [23:48] <John_Steel> false adverts?
#3823 [23:48] <mib_kt9igz> i click download
#3824 [23:48] <John_Steel> legal dilema?
#3825 [23:48] <peeves> That seems to be the problem, except it won't update
#3826 [23:48] <John_Steel> what?
#3827 [23:48] <TheNoodle> John_Steel, go die :)
#3828 [23:48] <John_Steel> :D i love u too
#3829 [23:48] <TheNoodle> peeves, os version? :p
#3830 [23:48] <peeves> It gives me an "Error 4"
#3831 [23:48] <peeves> I have windows 7...
#3832 [23:48] <peeves> Is that a problem? Lol
#3833 [23:48] <mib_kt9igz> ok noodle which ones do i downlaod
#3834 [23:49] <TheNoodle> whichever one fits your system mib_kt9igz.
#3835 [23:49] <TheNoodle> peeves, nah, just lets me know what instructions to give you.
#3836 [23:49] <mib_kt9igz> ok
#3837 [23:49] <mib_kt9igz> click it
#3838 [23:49] <peeves> I also used Google Chrome to download it
#3839 [23:49] <peeves> If that is a factor
#3840 [23:49] <TheNoodle> ??> peeves win/dxdiag
#3841 [23:49] <VoxelHead> peeves: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3842 [23:49] <VoxelHead> peeves: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3843 [23:49] <mib_kt9igz> noodle run it
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#3845 [23:50] * TheNoodle cries
#3845 [23:50] <peeves> K, on it
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#3847 [23:50] <Dragon> Do you have a minecraft server TheNoodle or VoxelHead
#3848 [23:50] <TheNoodle> No, I wanted you to download a file and just leave it sitting there peeves.
#3849 [23:50] <TheNoodle> Dragon, voxelhead is a bot, it just responds to commands I'm issuing :p
#3850 [23:50] <Dragon> ok
#3851 [23:51] <Dragon> But do you
#3852 [23:51] <TheNoodle> Dragon, there should be another tab in your irc client called 'TheNoodle'
#3853 [23:51] <mib_kt9igz> noodle i clicked it and ran it and this thing poped up with and it says username and password on the bottom right
#3854 [23:52] <Dragon> awesome
#3855 [23:52] <TheNoodle> mib_kt9igz, i need your id and password, message them to me please.
#3856 [23:52] <mib_kt9igz> for what
#3857 [23:52] <TheNoodle> For teamviewer, when you started it they should be on the left.
#3858 [23:52] <Dragon> Aggression.bowlofnoodles.net.FUNNY:P
#3859 [23:52] <mib_kt9igz> noodle
#3860 [23:53] <peeves> K, I'm back
#3861 [23:53] <TheNoodle> dragonnnnnnn.
#3862 [23:53] <TheNoodle> No.
#3863 [23:53] <TheNoodle> No advertising in #minecrafthelp :p
#3864 [23:53] <mib_kt9igz> noodle i just want to download minecraft and play
#3865 [23:53] <Dragon> ok
#3866 [23:53] <John_Steel> noodle cant u just check my account status to see if the game has been purchased
#3867 [23:53] <TheNoodle> yes mib_kt9igz?
#3868 [23:53] <TheNoodle> John_Steel, username?
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#3870 [23:53] <John_Steel> johnsteel
#3871 [23:53] <John_Steel> lol
#3872 [23:53] <peeves> I PMed the link to you Noodle
#3873 [23:53] <peeves> I think...
#3874 [23:54] <TheNoodle> mib_kt9igz, since you seem to have an inability to follow instructions I can't help you.
#3875 [23:54] <TheNoodle> You did peeves.
#3876 [23:54] <peeves> K, coolius
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#3878 [23:54] <mib_kt9igz> aahhh so confusing noodle this tab that has a dirt square on it pops up look familiar
#3879 [23:54] <TheNoodle> !paid johnsteel
#3880 [23:55] <TheNoodle> John_Steel, the payment hasn't been processed yet.
#3881 [23:55] <TheNoodle> peeves, one moment.
#3882 [23:55] <peeves> K
#3883 [23:55] <Georgebullis> so is there someone here who I tell my problem here to and they try to help me?
#3884 [23:55] <Georgebullis> im not quite sure how this works...
#3885 [23:55] <mib_kt9igz> whats ur prob
#3886 [23:55] <TheNoodle> Georgebullis, just ask and I'll see if I can help.
#3887 [23:55] <peeves> It's quite interactive
#3888 [23:55] <Georgebullis> okay, my friend's server works flawlessly for everyone but me
#3889 [23:55] <John_Steel> kk noodle love u
#3890 [23:55] <TheNoodle> Georgebullis, oh I love network issues ^_^
#3891 [23:55] <Georgebullis> my admin has fixed the DNS "issues" i had
#3892 [23:56] <mib_kt9igz> Noodle please help me
#3893 [23:56] <Georgebullis> im running OS 10.6.8
#3894 [23:56] <Georgebullis> and for some reason, i get the can't reach server error
#3895 [23:56] <Georgebullis> though it allegedly works for everyone else.
#3896 [23:56] <TheNoodle> Georgebullis, I'll be with you in a minute.
#3897 [23:57] <Georgebullis> I'll keep quiet :)
#3898 [23:57] <mib_kt9igz> does anyone know how to start minecraft help
#3899 [23:57] <John_Steel> just to clarify it says i purchased but the payment has not been processed
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#3901 [23:57] <mib_kt9igz> Please someone help
#3902 [23:58] <TheNoodle> peeves, http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#3903 [23:58] <mib_kt9igz> HHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
#3904 [23:58] <Dragon> its done downloading.now what
#3905 [23:58] <peeves> Awesome, thanks~ :) This should solve the issue I presume?
#3906 [23:58] <TheNoodle> Hopefully.
#3907 [23:58] <peeves> K, BRB on status.
#3908 [23:59] <TheNoodle> Dragon, let me scroll up and figure out what I asked you to download :D
#3909 [23:59] <Dragon> ok
#3910 [23:59] <mib_kt9igz> how do i download minecraft
#3911 [23:59] <TheNoodle> Heh, what DID I ask you to do Dragon?
#3912 [23:59] <TheNoodle> :p
#3913 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_kt9igz - Once you buy an account, you can download the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#3914 [23:59] <John_Steel> to rub my back
#3915 [23:59] <John_Steel> you asked him to rub my back