#MinecraftHelp > 2011-10-08
#1 [00:00] <TheNoodle> GreyVulpine, he's getting 'cannot connect to minecraft.net' inthe client.
#2 [00:00] <Dragon> nvidia i think
#3 [00:00] <TheNoodle> mib_kt9igz, please do not pm me unless I ask you to.
#4 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Causes, pirating, firewall, time/date out of sync, or ! in windows username TheNoodle
#5 [00:00] <mib_kt9igz> i did i go there run it and then it leads me to this screen says minecraft log in and then i log in and says cant connect to minecraft.net or not downloaded
#6 [00:00] <TheNoodle> GreyVulpine, I got stuck on firewall where I just got stonewalled.
#7 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_kt9igz - Has it ever worked before?
#8 [00:01] <TheNoodle> Dragon, install or run the file you downloaed.
#9 [00:01] <mib_kt9igz> i just bought it 20 min ago
#10 [00:01] <mib_kt9igz> never played it
#11 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_kt9igz - What operating system are you on?
#12 [00:01] <Dragon> its saving
#13 [00:01] <mib_kt9igz> idk grey
#14 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_kt9igz - Windows? Mac? Linux? MS-DOS? OS/2 Warp?
#15 [00:02] <mib_kt9igz> windows
#16 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Do you know if your windows username has a ! mark in it?
#17 [00:03] <mib_kt9igz> ??
#18 [00:03] <TheNoodle> Thanks for helping grey, mind if I disappear for a few minutes? :P
#19 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> When you first boot up your computer. Do you log into the computer using a username?
#20 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> TheNoodle - Pfft, I suppose.
#21 [00:04] <TheNoodle> ^_^
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#23 [00:04] <mib_kt9igz> well it says my name and i type in my password
#24 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> mib_kt9igz - Does that name have a exclaimation mark (!) in it?
#25 [00:05] <mib_kt9igz> no
#26 [00:05] <mib_kt9igz> grey it doesnt
#27 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Pull up your web browser, please go to https://login.minecraft.net -- Does it display "Bad login"?
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#29 [00:05] <mib_kt9igz> yes
#30 [00:05] <mib_kt9igz> grey yes
#31 [00:05] <John_Steel> PEOPLE SAID STUFF
#32 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_kt9igz - What security software do you run?
#33 [00:06] <mib_kt9igz> norton
#34 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> nort - Could you try disabling norton's web/firewall protection and try minecraft again?
#35 [00:06] <mib_kt9igz> how do i do that
#36 [00:06] <mib_g6ir6s> Hello, Noodle?
#37 [00:06] * TheNoodle waves
#37 [00:06] <mib_g6ir6s> It's me, peeves :D
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#39 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_kt9igz - Instructions are at: http://service1.symantec.com/support/nip.nsf/docid/2003071515220236
#40 [00:07] <mib_g6ir6s> Minecraft still fails to launch...
#41 [00:07] <mib_kt9igz> ok thanks
#42 [00:07] <mib_g6ir6s> But I did upgrade the driver :/
#43 [00:07] <TheNoodle> Okay, so at least your video drivers are up to date now.
#44 [00:07] <TheNoodle> :P
#45 [00:07] <mib_g6ir6s> Lol, thanks.
#46 [00:07] <TheNoodle> Mind recapping the problem incase grey has anything to add?
#47 [00:08] <mib_g6ir6s> Yes.
#48 [00:08] <Dragon> now what
#49 [00:08] <mib_g6ir6s> I first run Minecraft
#50 [00:08] <TheNoodle> Dragon, you too.
#51 [00:08] <mib_g6ir6s> I can't see any Minecraft news
#52 [00:08] <Dragon> what
#53 [00:08] <mib_g6ir6s> Only the log in space, and an error in the top left corner about some connection failure
#54 [00:08] <TheNoodle> Recap your problem as it stands now dragon.
#55 [00:08] <kimmie> Question. I have a server running on my local machine, and at most 2 people are on. Usually it is 0. Does minecraftserver use bandwidth if no one is connected? Resource Monitor says no, roommate claims it does. Does it slow my internet down?
#56 [00:08] <mib_g6ir6s> But my internet works
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#58 [00:09] <TheNoodle> kimmie, nope.
#59 [00:09] <hatman> what official version are we one?
#60 [00:09] <TheNoodle> If no one is connected, you're fine.
#61 [00:09] <Dragon> let me try it
#62 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_g6ir6s - Your firewall or security software is blocking minecraft
#63 [00:09] <TheNoodle> hatman, 1.8.1
#64 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> kimmie - It does not
#65 [00:09] <hatman> ktnxbai
#66 [00:09] <kimmie> awesome. thats what I thought :)
#67 [00:09] <mib_g6ir6s> Hmmm, so should I turn them off?
#68 [00:09] <kimmie> thanks
#69 [00:09] <mib_g6ir6s> Because I can't seem to add them
#70 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_g6ir6s - Either turn it off, or configure it to allow java/minecraft traffic through
#71 [00:09] <mib_g6ir6s> To add minecraft to their list that is
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#73 [00:10] <mib_g6ir6s> K
#74 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_g6ir6s - Then try turning it off
#75 [00:10] <mib_g6ir6s> BRB
#76 [00:10] <mib_g6ir6s> On it
#77 [00:10] <Georgebullis> hey, do i get a turn soon?
#78 [00:10] <Dragon> let me patch minecraft ok
#79 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Georgebullis - Ask away
#80 [00:11] <TheNoodle> Shit, sorry Georgebullis.
#81 [00:11] <TheNoodle> What operating system are you using?
#82 [00:11] <TheNoodle> Grey, everyone else can connect to x server, but he can't.
#83 [00:11] <TheNoodle> Georgebullis, also, can you connect to other servers fine?
#84 [00:11] <Georgebullis> thanks, grey. I use my friends server primarily, on mac OS X (10.6.8) and for some reason, i have the "cant reach server" error. my admin has already customized my DNS setting which helped, but it seems to only be me with the problem
#85 [00:11] <Georgebullis> yeah, the other server i sometimes use is fine
#86 [00:12] <Georgebullis> just to be safe, let me try mau5ville.
#87 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> reddit's s.nerd.nu should be up as well
#88 [00:12] <Georgebullis> works like a charm
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#90 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Possible causes, firewall/filtering software is blocking a connection to that specific server, admin isn't setting the server up correctly, or it's a local server
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#92 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Or the internet route to that server is wonky
#93 [00:13] <mib_g6ir6s> No go sir
#94 [00:13] <mib_g6ir6s> Still refuses to run
#95 [00:13] <Georgebullis> can you suggest solutions?
#96 [00:13] <mib_g6ir6s> I can't seem to update it at all
#97 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_g6ir6s - Paste exactly what that error says, please
#98 [00:13] <mib_g6ir6s> K
#99 [00:13] <Dragon> I open a world and it goes to the "saving chunks" screen,flashes the error report screen,then goes black.
#100 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Georgebullis - What ip address are you attempting to connect to?
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#102 [00:14] <Georgebullis> can i give you the URL?
#103 [00:14] <Georgebullis> or do you want the IP?
#104 [00:14] <TheNoodle> Either will work.
#105 [00:14] <Georgebullis> minecraft.nosgamers.com
#106 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> !check minecraft.nosgamers.com
#107 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Moment
#108 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Dragon - Got any hs_err_pid files that generate?
#109 [00:15] <mib_g6ir6s> Here it is:
#110 [00:15] <mib_g6ir6s> Failed to lauch Fatal error occured (4): Address familt not supported by protocol family: connect
#111 [00:15] <Dragon> some times but not when it crashes like this.but once
#112 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Georgebullis - I'm unable to connect to that server myself
#113 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Georgebullis - I don't think people from the outside can connect to it
#114 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Dragon - Could you please pastebin.com the last or latest error report?
#115 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Dragon - Give us the URL to it
#116 [00:17] <Georgebullis> my admin has been told about the problem multiple times, and had this to say that error means that your computer can't translate the domain name into an IP address, which is an issue with your internet service provider's DNS server."
#117 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> I'm using google's DNS servers.
#118 [00:17] <Georgebullis> yeah, I had to donate to keep the server up, so i think outsiders arent allowed
#119 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> as well as my ISP's
#120 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_g6ir6s - See http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/587899-failed-to-launch-fatal-error-occured-4/page__view__findpost__p__7767466
#121 [00:18] <Georgebullis> he's a third year com tech student and i think he's overthinking this
#122 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_g6ir6s - Seems like a problem with your winsock
#123 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> instructions are in that forum post
#124 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> Georgebullis - I think he is. Who else can connect?
#125 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> Are those people outside his network, or within the LAN?
#126 [00:20] <mib_g6ir6s> Cool, I'll check it out :)
#127 [00:20] <Georgebullis> I'm not sure. What would define the inside of his network. how close together they live (region?)
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#129 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> How is the server hosted? Is it in a data center somewhere, or is it on a home connection? If it's the latter, are the people that connect inside that house?
#130 [00:21] <Georgebullis> He owns the site that runs it, so I imagine a data center, likely near Winnipeg.
#131 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> if it's the data center, with the people that are able to connect, what IP are they putting in?
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#133 [00:22] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :(
#134 [00:22] <Georgebullis> they connect by putting the address I gave you earlier
#135 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Are they actually putting in "minecraft.nosgaming.com" or an IP address that hasn't been updated for that DNS record?
#136 [00:22] <FireReign> is there an official 1.7.3 i can download?
#137 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> FireReign - No
#138 [00:22] <Georgebullis> theyre actually putting minecraft.nosgamers.com
#139 [00:22] <Georgebullis> i didnt know you could at first!
#140 [00:23] <Georgebullis> but yeah, im the first one to have been given the direct IP, that having to do with my DNS, which i wish i knew more about
#141 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Georgebullis - Aubot can't pull any information from that address, and I can't connect to it either
#142 [00:23] <FireReign> if i wanted to go back to that version how could i?
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#144 [00:23] <TheNoodle> Nor can I.
#145 [00:23] <Georgebullis> can you pull info from nosgamers.com:8123
#146 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> FireReign - Two options. Either you had the forethought to back it up before you updated to 1.8.1, or you can use mcnostalgia
#147 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcnostalgia
#148 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> er, crap
#149 [00:24] <Georgebullis> see if that works too, that's the map, and I imagine it needs to connect the server as well.
#150 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> ??< index
#151 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> ?? oldversion
#152 [00:24] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#153 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> nosgamers.com:8123 does not work for me either
#154 [00:25] <Georgebullis> okay, so does this make it a problem on my admin's part?
#155 [00:25] <Georgebullis> and I'm doing everything right?
#156 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> You can connect to other servers fine, so unless you've got a specific rule on a firewall or filtering software that's blocking that ip address...
#157 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> And I know I'm not running anything that's blocking a connection to that server.
#158 [00:26] <Georgebullis> do you have enough mac knowledge to help me check?
#159 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, that I don't.
#160 [00:26] <Georgebullis> I connected to it earlier, after emailing him saying there was a problem
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#162 [00:27] <Georgebullis> does that rule out that option?
#163 [00:27] <peeves> It's me again mp_something
#164 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah. it rules that out
#165 [00:27] <peeves> I downloaded the winsok
#166 [00:27] <Georgebullis> furthermore, does my location (niagara) and the server's likely location (winnipeg) have any bearing on this at all?
#167 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> I'm leaning on saying it's the server/admin's fault
#168 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> It does not
#169 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> I can't connect to that server Georgebullis, and neither can Aubot
#170 [00:28] <peeves> I'll try running minecraft again
#171 [00:28] <Georgebullis> alright, thanks for bearing with me, guys
#172 [00:28] <peeves> DEAR GOD I LOVE YOU GUYS ;'D
#173 [00:28] * GreyVulpine hides
#173 [00:29] <Georgebullis> I'm sorry for wasting your time! good luck helping the community, Mojang should make capes just for you guys
#174 [00:29] <peeves> Let it be known that the spyware Relevant Knowledge blocks Minecraft!
#175 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> Georgebullis - Hey, it's what we're here for.
#176 [00:30] <peeves> Thank you Dragon and Noodle :D
#177 [00:30] <peeves> Good bye people.
#178 [00:30] * GreyVulpine waves
#178 [00:30] <peeves> And Grey :)
#179 [00:37] <yort> hello
#180 [00:37] <Georgebullis> thanks again guys, take care.
#181 [00:37] <yort> k
#182 [00:37] * GreyVulpine waves
#182 [00:38] <yort> can i have some assistance?
#183 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> With?
#184 [00:38] <yort> when i start minecraft, it runs fine for about 5 minutes, but then it crashes, and the error message "java platform se binary has stopped responding"
#185 [00:38] <yort> i've tried playing minecraft on a seperate account on my computer, and it worked fine.
#186 [00:38] <yort> so i'm not sure what the issue is
#187 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Java being wonky? Try uninstalling java completely and installing java 6.
#188 [00:40] <yort> is java 6 the latest one?
#189 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried a full uninstall of minecraft's files?
#190 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Java 7 is the latest, but it's been known to cause problems with miencraft
#191 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> We recommend 6 around here.
#192 [00:40] <yort> yes, i have tried re-installing minecraft
#193 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, minecraft*
#194 [00:41] <yort> where can i acquire this java 6?
#195 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> ?? java
#196 [00:42] <VoxelHead> java: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#197 [00:42] <VoxelHead> java: Other versions of java: Version 6: ?? getjre/6u27, ?? getjdk/6u27 | Version 7: ?? getjre/7u1, ?? getjdk/7u1
#198 [00:42] <yort> okay thanks
#199 [00:43] <yort> i'll try that
#200 [00:43] <yort> but i need to uninstall my current java first, correct?
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#203 [00:43] <Dragon> Hello
#204 [00:44] <Dragon> TheNoodle?
#205 [00:44] <TheNoodle> In a game of LoL, sorry bud.
#206 [00:44] <Dragon> what is lol
#207 [00:45] <TheNoodle> League of legends
#208 [00:45] <Dragon> can you tell me your server please
#209 [00:46] <Dragon> hello
#210 [00:46] <TheNoodle> http://aggression.bowlofnoodles.net
#211 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> yort - Yes
#212 [00:46] <Dragon> thank you
#213 [00:46] <yort> k
#214 [00:47] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, guess what
#215 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> ?
#216 [00:47] <TheNytangel> I made a nuclear power plant :D
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#218 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Ok...?
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#222 [00:50] <Nwing> Hello!
#223 [00:53] <Nwing> is anyone here by chance?
#224 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Nope. All dead
#225 [00:53] <TheNytangel> Mhmm
#226 [00:53] <Nwing> well that is indeed a bummer :( perhaps you could help me from the afterlife?
#227 [00:54] <TheNytangel> Blasphemy
#228 [00:54] <Nwing> lol?
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#231 [00:57] * TheNytangel is going to bed
#231 [00:58] * GreyVulpine needs a late night snack. bee are bee.
#231 [00:58] <Nwing> anyway I've been having an issue with my client when connecting to a server; after I travel a fairly large amount of land in a single direction I come across an infinitely long horizontal single chunk line in the world. other people that join the server don't seem to have this problem at all and my server is on a different computer than my client and I
#232 [00:58] <Nwing> connect to my server locally
#233 [00:59] <Nwing> and on some occasions I have an out of memory error right about 5min after I find the chunk error
#234 [01:01] <Nwing> I'm using 1.8.1 on both the client and server with no mods or texture packs installed and have recently reinstalled java and redownloaded the client from minecraft.net
#235 [01:02] <Nwing> I think that's about it lol and thanks for the help in advance btw :)
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#237 [01:08] <Nwing> must be a really good snack :)
#238 [01:08] <charmander> i need help :(
#239 [01:09] <charmander> any of ya'll wanna help me
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#244 [01:28] <Satomi> Anyone have any idea whether there's a leg to stand on regarding Alpha buyers getting the Android version for free?
#245 [01:28] <SinZ> doubt it, android version is a seperate game
#246 [01:28] <SinZ> alpha people get DLC and updates for free
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#248 [01:29] <Satomi> Erm, well
#249 [01:29] <Satomi> That's debatable
#250 [01:29] <Satomi> http://i54.tinypic.com/24147r5.jpg
#251 [01:30] <Satomi> From terminology used, it should be covered
#252 [01:31] <TheNoodle> ITP: people being nittpicky faggots
#253 [01:31] <Satomi> Nice to see you have such reasonably worded opinions :P
#254 [01:35] <SinZ> TheNoodle +1
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#258 [01:49] <Clive> Hello!
#259 [01:50] <Helpmeplz> !paid grey_gandalf
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#261 [01:50] <Clive> Anyone can help me in setting up a server without a VPN software?
#262 [01:50] <Helpmeplz> Grey_gandalf
#263 [01:51] <VoxelHead> quand vous retournez, apporter les tartes!
#264 [01:51] <SinZ> ??> clive PortForward
#265 [01:52] <SinZ> ragequit
#266 [01:52] <Clive> o.o
#267 [01:52] <Clive> I port forwarded.
#268 [01:52] <Clive> I don't know my IP.
#269 [01:52] <Clive> I'm not sure if the port forwarding was a success.
#270 [01:54] <Clive> So, anyone can help?
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#272 [01:56] <|Kiikun|> Clive: type !check
#273 [01:57] <|Kiikun|> in here :P
#274 [01:57] <|Kiikun|> aubot has magical serverchecking ability
#275 [01:58] <Clive> !check
#276 [01:58] <Clive> do I have to type the port after it? xD
#277 [01:59] <|Kiikun|> it a nonstandard port?
#278 [01:59] <|Kiikun|> meaning not 25565?
#279 [01:59] <genshou> best to be safe I think :v
#280 [01:59] <TheBadShepperd> Where does Minecraft put it's log file when it crashes? :o
#281 [01:59] <|Kiikun|> ;ip Clive
#282 [01:59] <WugBot> IP address of Clive is: 121.6.177.54
#283 [02:00] <Clive> I portforwarded 25565 following the instructions on portforward.com
#284 [02:01] <Clive> It puts the log file as a txt file in the same folder as the exe methinks
#285 [02:01] <Clive> TheBadShepperd: I crashed a load of times and everytime I do, it creates a txt file in the folder where my minecraft.exe is. Check there?
#286 [02:02] <TheBadShepperd> Clive, hrm, I'm not seeing it there, but I fixed my issue without it. Thanks anyway! ;)
#287 [02:02] <Clive> Np.
#288 [02:06] <SinZ> TheBadShepperd: gratz on ircop
#289 [02:07] <TheBadShepperd> Thanks, SinZ.
#290 [02:07] <Clive> |Kiikun|: PortForward.com told me to forward 25565 on TCP/UDP with a static ip generated by a program from them, I got 192.168.1.74 and used it to port forward, is that right?
#291 [02:09] * SinZ updates SinZBot on vps
#291 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Clive - That should be right, if the computer running the server is on 1.74
#292 [02:12] <Clive> There's a program on PortForward.com that makes your computer have a static ip, and it gave me 192.168.1.74, so I used that. But my ip is 121.6.177.54. I think. DynDNS and the WugBot thing both say so.
#293 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> I never trust programs that do port forwarding for you
#294 [02:13] <Ryladine> Lol clive, I think you have that mixed up
#295 [02:13] <Ryladine> The 192.168.1.74 would be an internal IP
#296 [02:13] <Ryladine> and the 127.6.177.54 would be an external IP
#297 [02:14] <Clive> yea, i know that
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#299 [02:14] <Clive> So...port forwarding is done with an internal ip?
#300 [02:14] <Ryladine> Yes
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#302 [02:14] <MFanatik> hey can anyone help me?
#303 [02:14] <Clive> but they connect with my external ip
#304 [02:15] <Ryladine> Yes
#305 [02:15] <Clive> so it should be 121.6.177.54:25565
#306 [02:15] <Ryladine> To connect, Yes
#307 [02:15] <Clive> Should I be able to connect with that on my own server?
#308 [02:15] <Ryladine> Yes, or if it's hosted on the same pc your connecting from you could use 172.0.0.1
#309 [02:15] <MFanatik> Can anyone help me?
#310 [02:16] <Ryladine> yes
#311 [02:16] <Clive> MFanatik: what's your problem?
#312 [02:16] <MFanatik> some how im not premuim now
#313 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> 127
#314 [02:16] <Ryladine> Yes...
#315 [02:16] <MFanatik> i was before 2 days
#316 [02:16] <Clive> 127.0.0.1 or localhost.
#317 [02:16] <Ryladine> grey is right lol
#318 [02:16] <Ryladine> Yes
#319 [02:17] <Clive> MFanatik: What do you mean by, You're not premium, you can't login etcetc
#320 [02:17] <MFanatik> when i goto web site login it shows buy game
#321 [02:18] <Clive> Ok, I got nothing.
#322 [02:18] <MFanatik> i cant play by launcher its like i didnt buyed the game
#323 [02:18] <jess> Somehow Im not able to download this game,i'm logged in with Windows,can anybody help?
#324 [02:18] <Clive> Ryladine: If I'm hosting the server on the same pc I'm connecting from CAN I use 121.6.177.54:25565?
#325 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik, jess, what error do you get upon logging in?
#326 [02:19] <Ryladine> Clive: Yes
#327 [02:19] <MFanatik> its says im not premuim
#328 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - Then that particular user account is not paid for. Do you use any other usernames?
#329 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> MFanatikn - Did you purchase that account from minecraft.net?
#330 [02:20] <MFanatik> now i tryed to add same gift code agiab it says used
#331 [02:20] <MFanatik> i use only 1
#332 [02:20] <MFanatik> agian*
#333 [02:20] <jess> I'm ok to log in,but it does not finish loading
#334 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - Where did you purchase that gift code from?
#335 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> jess - Where does it stop?
#336 [02:20] <MFanatik> from lithuanian website
#337 [02:20] <MFanatik> it worked ok
#338 [02:20] <TheNoodle> You got scammed.
#339 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> MFanatik - Then you most likely got scammed.
#340 [02:21] <MFanatik> so how did it worked before?
#341 [02:21] <jess> towards the end
#342 [02:21] <Clive> Ryladine: After I add the server with that ip, it says "Can't reach server" and if I try Direct Connect it says "Failed to connect to the server. Connection refused: connect"
#343 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> We see it all the time. person purchases gift code from minecraft.net using a credit card, sells it. then does a chargeback on the purchase
#344 [02:21] <TheNoodle> A chargeback was performed on the payment for that gift code, so the perosn that bought the code got their money back ond the code became useless.
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#346 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Gets the money back from the gift code, as well as the money from selling it
#347 [02:22] <MFanatik> :((((((((((((
#348 [02:22] <SinZ> if only charebacks worked for paypal
#349 [02:22] <VoxelHead> !^£~~@@£$#%#^%#
#350 [02:22] <TheNoodle> The only place you can purchase minecraft from is minecraft.net or someone you trust.
#351 [02:22] <SinZ> TheNoodle, and even then, buy from minecraft.net
#352 [02:22] <TheNoodle> If it costs less than on minecraft.net it's a scam.
#353 [02:23] <TheNoodle> SinZ that is not always possible.
#354 [02:23] <TheNoodle> An example would be when paying cash.
#355 [02:23] <SinZ> if it costs more then minecraft.net its a bigger scam
#356 [02:23] <TheNoodle> lol
#357 [02:23] <TheNoodle> Actually, I think I've sold gift codes for less than mc.net before.
#358 [02:23] <TheNoodle> But i'm different :p
#359 [02:23] <SinZ> Alpha codes are worth more then beta codes, correct?
#360 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#361 [02:24] <Clive> After I add the server with "myip:25565", it says "Can't reach server" and if I try Direct Connect it says "Failed to connect to the server. Connection refused: connect"
#362 [02:24] <Clive> Anyone?
#363 [02:24] <jess> GreyVulpine- it stops right at the end,any ideas
#364 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> jess - Done loading?
#365 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> jess - Has minecraft worked before? Did you install any mods?
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#368 [02:25] <bellows> So i need some help with running mincraft.
#369 [02:26] <TheNoodle> Ask away bellows.
#370 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> bellows - What sort of help?
#371 [02:26] <bellows> im on a mac, and ive tried multiple times attempting to play minecraft in single player mode throguh the browser but it jsut will not load
#372 [02:26] <jess> yes downloaded the first time two days ago,and now it does not let me into the game
#373 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> What version of mac?
#374 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> jess - What operating system?
#375 [02:26] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: you should get a cape, for being the uber helper
#376 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> SinZ - I don't want a cape!
#377 [02:26] <bellows> i believe OS Snow Leperd
#378 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> bellows - 10.5.8?
#379 [02:27] <SinZ> Get one anyway GreyVulpine
#380 [02:27] <bellows> one sec
#381 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> 10.5.8 has a known issue with minecraft 1.8.1 at the moment
#382 [02:27] <jess> windows
#383 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> jess - Please follow vox's instructions
#384 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> ??> jess win/reinst
#385 [02:27] <VoxelHead> jess: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#386 [02:27] <VoxelHead> jess: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#387 [02:27] <bellows> 10.6.8
#388 [02:28] <jess> thanks
#389 [02:28] <bellows> yeah i am 10.6.8
#390 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> bellows - 10.6.8 or 10.5.8?
#391 [02:29] <bellows> 10.6.8
#392 [02:29] <bellows> i believe the most reccent update
#393 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> bellows - I only ask because 10.5.8 is not compatible with minecraft at the moment, requiring users to wait for minecraft 1.9 to be released for the issue to be resolved
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#395 [02:30] <bellows> Ive also attempted runnign it through parallels which is a Windows 7 and after installing java still will not load correctly
#396 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Seems Mac OSX's graphics aren't up to minimum standards on 10.5.8 to run minecraft
#397 [02:31] <bellows> but im not on 10.5.8
#398 [02:31] <bellows> im on 10.6.8
#399 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> You won't be able to run minecraft through parallels, the emulation doing rendering isn't good enough
#400 [02:31] <bellows> but it should still be functional though normal mac safari, googlechrome, or firefox right?
#401 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> bellows - Have you made sure java's up to date on your apple software update?
#402 [02:32] <bellows> it should be, i did a software update after it didnt work the first tiem aroudn jsut to make sure
#403 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Could you double check?
#404 [02:33] <bellows> doing that right now im runnign the software update as we speak
#405 [02:33] <bellows> and it tells me that everything is up to date
#406 [02:34] <bellows> is there a preferd browser i should be using?
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#408 [02:35] <Thrae> http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp should tell you the Java version on OS X
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#410 [02:36] <fyasko> Hello everyone
#411 [02:36] * GreyVulpine waves
#411 [02:36] <SinZ> `mcping smp.mca.d3s.co:32767
#412 [02:36] <SinZBot> D3 SMP (0/20)
#413 [02:36] <bellows> says its working
#414 [02:36] <fyasko> anyone know of a fix for no sound on fedora? :/ google is no luck for me
#415 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> fyasko - see if files exists in ~/.minecraft/resources
#416 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> If not, delete version file in /bin/ and redownload
#417 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> If so, make sure you're using sun java 6, update lwjgl as needed
#418 [02:37] <Thrae> fyasko: Yeah there's a couple things we can check. Are you using Sun Java, not OpenJDK?
#419 [02:38] <SinZ> whats wrong with OpenJDK
#420 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> Known to cause issues with some
#421 [02:38] <bellows> im checkign right now
#422 [02:38] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: `mcping <1.8 server address here>
#423 [02:38] <fyasko> all i see in that directory is a bunch of directories...there are some files inside them as well
#424 [02:39] <SinZ> 1.8+*
#425 [02:39] <Thrae> SinZ: It's just part of standard troubleshooting to get it the setup as homogeneous as possible with the most stable setup we know of.
#426 [02:39] <bellows> http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
#427 [02:39] <bellows> oops..
#428 [02:40] * Thrae types slow due to watching "Lie To Me"
#428 [02:40] <SinZ> Good show, hasnt been on aussie tv in awhile
#429 [02:40] <bellows> Java SE 6 update 26
#430 [02:40] <bellows> thats what its telling me for the version
#431 [02:41] <Thrae> SinZ: Canceled after 3 seasons =/
#432 [02:41] <Thrae> bellows: I believe that's the latest non-dev version for OS X
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#434 [02:42] <SinZ> hai shepperd
#435 [02:42] <bellows> so i should try and get a diffrent one?
#436 [02:42] <bellows> or sometihn
#437 [02:43] <Thrae> bellows: Well what I meant is there's a dev version of Update 27 available, but I strongly doubt it'd make any difference. Hmm, let's check GLView...
#438 [02:43] <Thrae> ??< index
#439 [02:43] <bellows> whats the index
#440 [02:43] <bellows> ?
#441 [02:43] <SinZ> gives link for all the voxelhead commands
#442 [02:44] <Thrae> Can't find the factoid...thankfully I always keep the page open
#443 [02:44] <Thrae> bellows: http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/download.html , download and install for OS X 10.6 or later
#444 [02:45] <Thrae> bellows: Now you'll have to help me out here too as the OS X interface is different than Windows
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#446 [02:46] <bellows> k
#447 [02:46] <bellows> its wantign me to go into the app store, hopefully iwont have to buy it and its just a free application
#448 [02:46] <Thrae> It's free for 10.5 or earlier, so should be
#449 [02:47] <bellows> yeah its free currently downloading
#450 [02:47] <Thrae> Yeah it's an open-source diagnostic tool for OpenGL for developers
#451 [02:49] <bellows> alright i currently have the application open what should i be looking for?
#452 [02:50] <Thrae> bellows: There should be a line called "Renderer" and also a version number between 4.x and 1.x
#453 [02:51] <bellows> hould the Rendere line be for apple of nervada?
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#455 [02:51] <bellows> srry Nivida
#456 [02:51] <Clive> Anybody got anything on my problem?
#457 [02:51] <Thrae> "Apple of Nervada"? Hmmm... Oh...yes, Nvidia is good
#458 [02:52] <Thrae> bellows: Nvidia is one of the three major graphics chipsets for Apple (Nvidia, ATI, Intel)
#459 [02:53] <bellows> 2.1 NIVIDA-1.6.36 is the OGL Version i believe
#460 [02:54] <Thrae> Clive: "If I'm hosting the server on the same pc I'm connecting from CAN I use 121.6.177.54:25565?" is incorrect -- it has to be either 127.0.0.1 or localhost unless your router has NAT reflection enabled
#461 [02:54] <bellows> should i probably just hit the update button? o.o
#462 [02:54] <Clive> Oh!
#463 [02:55] <Clive> So I should get a friend to test it?
#464 [02:55] <SinZ> clive
#465 [02:55] <SinZ> is it 1.8.1?
#466 [02:55] <Clive> Yes.
#467 [02:55] <SinZ> server ip and port?
#468 [02:55] <Clive> 121.6.177.54:25565
#469 [02:55] <Thrae> Clive: Is the server running right now? AuBot can check it, and also SinZ is working on a utility
#470 [02:55] <Clive> yea i'm running it
#471 [02:55] <SinZ> `mcping 121.6.177.54:25565
#472 [02:55] <SinZBot> Clive's Minecraft Server (0/20)
#473 [02:55] <SinZ> works
#474 [02:56] <Thrae> !check 121.6.177.54:25565
#475 [02:56] <Clive> Sweet.
#476 [02:56] <SinZ> mines much better then AuBot, way neater
#477 [02:56] <Clive> lol
#478 [02:56] <Thrae> SinZ: Does your utility just check the ping or does it actually log in like AuBot does?
#479 [02:56] <Thrae> Use the new ping/MOTD API, that is
#480 [02:56] <SinZ> Not an api, its a packet
#481 [02:57] <SinZ> and yes, it uses that, and doesnt bother with latency
#482 [02:57] <Clive> So, I need to use localhost, everyone else can use that?
#483 [02:57] <SinZ> might test that
#484 [02:57] <Thrae> Yeah, AuBot actually logs into the server and then immediately disconnects, which I like
#485 [02:57] <Thrae> Clive: Yep
#486 [02:57] <SinZ> if it logs in, it makes a mess of console
#487 [02:57] <SinZ> which I hate
#488 [02:57] <SinZ> so I keep it clean for both server and irc
#489 [02:58] <bellows> is there anything i should be doing? o.o
#490 [02:58] <Clive> Just noting, I didn't see AuBot login on my console
#491 [02:58] <Thrae> Hmm, maybe Kealper changed it
#492 [02:58] <Clive> !check 121.6.177.54:25565
#493 [02:58] <Kealper> rawr
#494 [02:58] <Clive> !check valkyrja.dyndns.org:25565
#495 [02:59] <Clive> Nice bot.
#496 [02:59] <SinZ> Kealper: how do you get latency
#497 [02:59] <Kealper> ghetto-like
#498 [02:59] * Kealper isn't sure who said another bot could be in here
#498 [03:00] <Kealper> measure the time between sending the 0xFE packet and recieving an 0xFF one
#499 [03:00] <bellows> what should i be doing with the GL app? o.o
#500 [03:00] <Thrae> I've found some servers will show them "up" if you use the server API, but actually try to connect and you'll get some error message unrelated to a corrupt player/world file
#501 [03:00] <Thrae> bellows: Sorry, lemme check something
#502 [03:01] <Clive> !check clivechia.dyndns.org:25565
#503 [03:01] <SinZ> Kealper: whats the symbol infront of mine?
#504 [03:01] <SinZ> `mcping smp.mca.d3s.co:32767
#505 [03:01] <SinZBot> D3 SMP (0/20)
#506 [03:01] <Thrae> bellows: Do you happen to know what video card is in this Mac?
#507 [03:02] <Kealper> SinZ: uhh....what?
#508 [03:02] <bellows> one sec checking..
#509 [03:02] <SinZ> I get or something like that infront of the motd
#510 [03:02] <Clive> !check clivechia.dyndns.org:25565
#511 [03:02] <fyasko> GreyVulpine ... how do i update lwjgl? or anyone know right off hand?
#512 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#513 [03:03] <Clive> Okay, sorry for sorta spamming with the bot.
#514 [03:03] <Kealper> shows as a space in mine....leme check
#515 [03:03] <Clive> Thanks to all those who helped me :D
#516 [03:03] <bellows> i believe its a NIVID geforce 320m
#517 [03:03] <Kealper> SinZ: a vertical tab character
#518 [03:04] <Kealper> SinZ: ascii 011
#519 [03:04] <SinZ> so \011'
#520 [03:05] <Kealper> depends on the language i guess, unless you mean to strip it out with regex lol
#521 [03:05] <SinZ> php
#522 [03:06] <bellows> is Thrae looking up soemtihng or did he afk? o.o
#523 [03:07] <Thrae> bellows: Oops didn't see your response
#524 [03:07] <bellows> NIVID geforce 320m
#525 [03:08] <Thrae> bellows: Yeah, not sure if this will help, but it might -- http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-macosx-256.02.25f01-driver.html and http://www.nvidia.com/object/macosx-cuda-4.0.19-driver.html
#526 [03:09] <Thrae> bellows: That's a CUDA driver but it might update other things
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#528 [03:12] <bellows> first one isnt supported by NIVID.... and im currently trying the second link
#529 [03:12] <Thrae> bellows: What do you mean not supported? It's an Nvidia-provided driver that applies to your chipset.
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#531 [03:13] <bellows> yeah i know, but thats the message thay i had recived when tryign to run the setup
#532 [03:13] <fyasko> hmm...so i am using java 6...and updated lwjgl but no sound still
#533 [03:14] <Thrae> bellows: OK, hmm. I don't think the CUDA driver will do anything by itself but it definitely won't hurt.
#534 [03:14] <Thrae> fyasko: Sun Java 6?
#535 [03:14] <fyasko> yeah
#536 [03:14] <fyasko> java version "1.6.0_20"
#537 [03:14] <fyasko> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
#538 [03:14] <bellows> alright second one seemingly worked, i instaleld it and everything should i try to run minecraftagain?
#539 [03:14] <Thrae> fyasko: Hmm, Update 27 or 26 isn't available?
#540 [03:15] <Thrae> bellows: Yeah
#541 [03:15] <fyasko> let me try updating it
#542 [03:15] <fyasko> is 7 out? should i not go that high?
#543 [03:15] <Thrae> fyasko: If Update 27 doesn't work, sure.
#544 [03:17] <bellows> stil ldosent seem to want to work, everytime i try and start the game i get a message poping up everytime i do
#545 [03:18] <Thrae> bellows: Have you pasted the exact message to www.pastebin.com and given us the link?
#546 [03:18] <bellows> no
#547 [03:19] <Thrae> Please do so.
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#549 [03:19] <bellows> it another window that pops up asking me to run sometihng
#550 [03:19] <Thrae> bellows: Can you describe the message exactly?
#551 [03:19] <bellows> one sec
#552 [03:21] <bellows> title: The applicationes digital signature has been varified. Do you want to run the application
#553 [03:21] <bellows> Name: org.lwjigl.util.applet.AppletLoader
#554 [03:21] <Thrae> bellows: Oh, are you running it from your browser?
#555 [03:21] <bellows> Publisher: Mojang AB
#556 [03:21] <bellows> from: File://
#557 [03:22] <bellows> and i jsut hit run
#558 [03:22] <bellows> yes
#559 [03:22] <Thrae> bellows: Yeah that's normal on Mac OS X. You just hit Run for that message. Do you get any other messages or errors?
#560 [03:23] <bellows> i get that same message about 5 tiems after the first oen and then the game jsut stays as a black window.
#561 [03:24] <Thrae> bellows: Do you get the same message from Firefox and Chrome?
#562 [03:24] <bellows> yes
#563 [03:24] <bellows> safari chrome and firefow
#564 [03:24] <bellows> firefox*
#565 [03:24] <Thrae> bellows: Are you trying to run Classic or Beta? Beta, right?
#566 [03:25] <bellows> classic, beta wont allow me to run it apparently because i ahvent paid for it or soemtihng
#567 [03:25] <bellows> classic is free cause im jsut attemptign to ry it out then make up my mind
#568 [03:25] <Thrae> Ah, yes, you need to buy access to Beta.
#569 [03:26] <TheNoodle> There is a 90 minute demo.
#570 [03:26] <Thrae> TheNoodle: For Windows
#571 [03:26] <TheNoodle> Oh :(
#572 [03:26] <Thrae> !demo
#573 [03:26] <bellows> is there a way to test it with out havign to pay for it right off the bat?
#574 [03:26] <bellows> for mac atleast
#575 [03:27] <Thrae> bellows: You can try the demo in Parallels if you still have it setup
#576 [03:27] <Thrae> >> demo
#577 [03:27] <Thrae> ?? demo
#578 [03:27] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#579 [03:27] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
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#581 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Don't think parallels will run minecraft
#582 [03:28] <Thrae> I don't think so either, but I'm ran out of stuff to check on Mac OS X =/
#583 [03:28] <bellows> ive tried paralles already, and i pretty much have the same problem
#584 [03:28] <Thrae> *I
#585 [03:28] <SinZ> how about wine GreyVulpine =P
#586 [03:28] <bellows> if i were to buy it
#587 [03:28] <bellows> would i get a dowload to run
#588 [03:28] <SinZ> yes
#589 [03:28] <bellows> insted of having to run it from a webpage?
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#591 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> wine will work
#592 [03:28] <Thrae> WINE for Mac OS X is an option to try the demo, but messy for a first timer to setup
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#594 [03:29] <bellows> is wine a program like parallels or is it something like a webpage
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#596 [03:29] <SinZ> wine: Wine is not emulation
#597 [03:29] <bellows> i dont think id like to have to go through all the hassle of tryign to put soemthing together jsut for a 90 minuite preview
#598 [03:29] <SinZ> it basically emulates .exe files
#599 [03:29] <Thrae> bellows: Neither -- WINE is a translation layer that converts Windows calls to the native operating system, including parts of DirectX (Minecraft uses OpenGL so no translation needed there)
#600 [03:30] <SinZ> my explanation was much better
#601 [03:30] <bellows> lol
#602 [03:31] <Thrae> SinZ: You said it's not emulation then you said it was "basically" emulation :D
#603 [03:31] <SinZ> thats what wine stands for
#604 [03:31] <bellows> so lets jsut say i go n buy it now, cause im probably gunan end up playign it regardless, my gf wants me to n all, but i would get a downlaod to play the game as an pplication rather than a webpage right?
#605 [03:31] <robink90> i just bought minecraft, but it does´nt work, when i try to start the game it just gets black and a hs_err_pid file accures on the desktop? i´ve got the new version of java. can someone help me?
#606 [03:31] <Thrae> Well, technically (and basically) it's not emulation, *functionally* it works like emulation
#607 [03:31] <SinZ> it doesnt emulate, but it practically does
#608 [03:31] <Keltinray_> Wine tries to replicate the Windows API so that windows applications will work
#609 [03:32] <Thrae> robink90: Copy the contents of the latest hs_err_pid file to www.pastebin.com and give us the link so we can view the error report.
#610 [03:32] <robink90> ok
#611 [03:32] <SinZ> I love how everytime i say something here, some technical talk happens
#612 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> Pants.
#613 [03:33] <Thrae> bellows: Please note there's no refund for Minecraft by policy.
#614 [03:33] <bellows> i guess i can understand that
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#616 [03:33] <SinZ> and buy ONLY from the minecraft.net side
#617 [03:33] <bellows> but the download should work better than the webpage right?
#618 [03:33] <SinZ> site
#619 [03:33] <Thrae> (As volunteers we certainly have no power to do anything about that, too)
#620 [03:33] <Thrae> bellows: It will at least give more descriptive errors!
#621 [03:34] <bellows> lol
#622 [03:34] <robink90> http://pastebin.com/M8yaLtZ4
#623 [03:34] <Thrae> Also, there are some Mac experts like Scott / AG_Scott here, and I think DopeGhoti too (or was he Linux?)
#624 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> Linux
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#626 [03:34] <Scott> We both regularly use Mac OS X and Linux. :P
#627 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> Only mac "experts" we have around here, are scott and xales
#628 [03:34] <Scott> But I'm going to sleep.
#629 [03:34] <Scott> Bye!
#630 [03:34] * GreyVulpine waves
#630 [03:35] * Thrae waves to Scott
#630 [03:35] <bellows> ciao
#631 [03:35] <bellows> i guess ima go buy the game and check back ina few seconds
#632 [03:35] <bellows> jst one question
#633 [03:35] <Thrae> robink90: OK, you need to update your video card driver -- it's failing on Nvidia's OpenGL library DLL
#634 [03:35] <bellows> is the download goign to run the game through a browser or is it gunan be run liek a game application
#635 [03:35] <Thrae> bellows: Before you do that, let's check one thing
#636 [03:35] <robink90> ok, Thanks:-D
#637 [03:36] <Thrae> bellows: Go to http://www.minecraft.net/download and download and follow the instructions for Mac OS X for the client (not the server)
#638 [03:37] <SinZ> im starting to hate the IRC protocol again
#639 [03:37] <Thrae> bellows: This will install the launcher, which you can test before you buy as you just need Premium to be able to login. Unfortunately being able to use the launcher doesn't tell you if OpenGL is working properly, but it will tell you if there's no catastrophic problem and is worth checking. You won't be able to login until you buy Premium.
#640 [03:38] <Thrae> SinZ: mIRC really messes it up with its non-conformity
#641 [03:38] <SinZ> Thrae: my bot refuses to send out the colours
#642 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> I believe this channel's set to strip colors
#643 [03:39] <Thrae> Yeah it's either +c or +C I believe
#644 [03:39] <bellows> as far as i can tell it looks liek the application is working
#645 [03:39] <bellows> like u said i need a premium
#646 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> +c
#647 [03:39] <Thrae> bellows: Yeah, to be able to login
#648 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> /quote help cmode
#649 [03:40] <bellows> is it possible i could use an account to test to see if i can gain entree to a server or soemtihg?
#650 [03:40] <bellows> wait..
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#652 [03:40] <bellows> i can ask my gf that way no trust issues persue
#653 [03:40] <Schala_Zeal> do silverfish spawn on peaceful?
#654 [03:40] <Thrae> bellows: Sounds like a great plan to me.
#655 [03:41] <SinZ> GreyVulpine: my test channel doesnt have +c or +C and it doesnt work their either, and bold doesnt work
#656 [03:41] <fyasko> lol...so i upgraded to java 7 and now game loads black screen after login
#657 [03:42] <Thrae> fyasko: Yeah that's why we recommend not to use it unless there's a problem or you want to test it out -- revert the change
#658 [03:42] <Planck> fyasko: Yes, happened to me too. I kept Java 6 around, so use it just for minecraft.
#659 [03:42] <Schala_Zeal> does anyone know if silverfish spawn on peaceful?
#660 [03:42] <Thrae> fyasko: Or specifically use Java 6 instead of just calling "java" (IE, /usr/share/java/jre6/bin/java" or wherever it is)
#661 [03:42] <fyasko> anyone know the quick way to revert?
#662 [03:43] <Planck> Thrae's method works
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#665 [03:48] <bellows> alright minecraft is now working thansk for the help guys im outa cya later
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#668 [03:58] <fyasko> *sigh...back to java 6...lol...have video, still no sound
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#670 [04:06] <VoxelHead> bye mib_t2zxs9
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#672 [04:13] <peru__> VoxelHead, why do you farewell to the person who has left? he/she cant hear you anymore
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#675 [04:22] <SkashKitsune> for some reason I'm unable to login and it constantly says I'm using a unlicensed copy :C
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#677 [04:23] <SkashKitsune> all I wanted was for this to work and get what I paid for :C
#678 [04:24] <sockmister> hi i am using a different hard drive because my other one crashed and when ever i try to log on to minecraft it freezes
#679 [04:25] <SkashKitsune> what java version do you have?
#680 [04:25] <sockmister> i dont know - i'll try and check it out and get back to you
#681 [04:25] <SkashKitsune> go to java.com
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#684 [04:27] <fyasko> anyone care to take one last stab at getting me sound :)
#685 [04:27] <sockmister> hi me again its version 6 update 27
#686 [04:28] <SkashKitsune> fyasko: what have you tried so far? sockmaster: have you cleared the Java cache?
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#688 [04:28] <fyasko> i have tried upgrading...now at v 6 update 27 of java...tried updating lwjgl
#689 [04:28] <SkashKitsune> sorry, Sockmister
#690 [04:29] <fyasko> i'm on fedora btw
#691 [04:29] <sockmister> you make me laugh - the what cache? - i'll check it out - still smiling
#692 [04:29] <SkashKitsune> fyasko, do you have sound normally? such as music, or system chimes?
#693 [04:29] <oliverjt1000> help! i cannot get on minecraft as soon as it loads up the screen just goes black :(
#694 [04:30] <SkashKitsune> Sockmister, are you running Windows 7?
#695 [04:30] <oliverjt1000> yes
#696 [04:30] <fyasko> yeah i have sound normally
#697 [04:31] <SkashKitsune> I have limited knowledge of Fedora Core
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#701 [04:34] <SkashKitsune> fyasko, do you have alsa-oss?
#702 [04:35] <fyasko> not sure what that is so i'm gonna guess no
#703 [04:36] <SkashKitsune> oliverjtt1000, try reinstalling Java, it seems your install is corrupted
#704 [04:36] <objectheap> Hi guys. When I start the launcher I get the error "Could not create the Java virtual machine." If I try to run a batch file, I get the error "Could not reserve enough space for object heap." I've installed the latest version of java and tried a fresh download of minecraft, but no go.
#705 [04:37] <objectheap> This happens regardless of how many other processes are running or the exact parameters I set in the batch file... and I'm completely out of ideas.
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#707 [04:37] <lemon-rev> objectheap ok can you do a dxdiag for us
#708 [04:37] <objectheap> How do you do that?
#709 [04:37] <lemon-rev> ??> objectheap win/dxdiag
#710 [04:37] <VoxelHead> objectheap: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#711 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> objectheap - How much RAM do you have on the system, what operating system?
#712 [04:37] <VoxelHead> objectheap: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#713 [04:38] <oliverjt1000> thanks i did reinstall it but maybe try it again
#714 [04:38] <SkashKitsune> uninstall Java then install it again
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#716 [04:39] <objectheap> http://pastebin.com/E84esYnp
#717 [04:40] <lemon-rev> ty
#718 [04:40] <GreyVulpine> objectheap - Try this batch file, using these instructions: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#719 [04:41] <Kassidy> Has anyone experienced the error "Unable to find spawn biome" when running up 1.9pre3 server? My Google-Fu is not having much luck with the issue.
#720 [04:42] <GreyVulpine> Tis reason why we don't support buggy pre-releases here
#721 [04:42] <Kassidy> Ah, fair enough.
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#723 [04:42] <Kassidy> Figured I'd give the question a shot, no worries. :)
#724 [04:43] * Kassidy slams head against desk "Damn, didn't spot that in the topic, sorry..."
#724 [04:43] <objectheap> oh my god... the batch file with the jar worked. I've been fumbling with one using the exe launcher and failing. I feel really stupid ahaha
#725 [04:44] <Kassidy> Thanks anyway. Laters.
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#727 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> objectheap - All that means, is that you don't have enough RAM free to launch minecraft normally
#728 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> I'd recommend freeing up RAM, or looking into upgrading your RAM/system
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#730 [04:44] <objectheap> I figured as much, my laptop is pretty old. The thing is, it started doing this out of nowhere, with no changes in my computer or minecraft.
#731 [04:45] <objectheap> And it would do this even if I killed almost all processes. I suppose it's possible it still wasn't enough.
#732 [04:46] <GreyVulpine> The exe does -Xms512m -Xmx1024m. So if you don't have at least half a gig of RAM free, minecraft will complain
#733 [04:46] <objectheap> Oh! That makes sense.
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#735 [04:49] <objectheap> I guess I'm going to have to live with the batch file until I have to get a new computer then, haha. Thanks guys!
#736 [04:50] <GreyVulpine> Feel free to tweak the batch file to your needs. Good luck
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#741 [05:12] <mib_i8rnle> Help, minecraft keeps stalling on the mojang start up page
#742 [05:12] <mib_i8rnle> Can someone help me?
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#746 [05:30] <SADASD1231241141ASD123131> hello
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#751 [05:38] <mib_qomciv> Hi, Minecraft crashes the java vm on startup and I have all the latest versions. Any ideas?
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#753 [05:45] <Thrae> hampus: Is this Windows saying Java has crashed, or does Java give an error report? You can post the error report to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
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#755 [05:52] <Superduper123> Can someone help me?
#756 [05:52] <Superduper123> hampus?
#757 [05:52] <Superduper123> You can't hide.
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#759 [05:54] <johnnyp49> Hi, maybe you guys can help me ... It says "can't connect to minecraft.net" since 1.8. Used the old launcher before, because it worked that way. now I have to use the new one. My firewall allows mc and java. dont know what to do ...
#760 [05:55] <RobinJ24> the old launcher = pirate?
#761 [05:55] <RobinJ24> what's your uername?
#762 [05:55] <RobinJ24> username*
#763 [05:55] <johnnyp49> no
#764 [05:55] <johnnyp49> johnnyp49
#765 [05:55] <johnnyp49> no, I bought mc, no pirate ;)
#766 [05:55] <RobinJ24> !paid johnnyp49
#767 [05:55] <johnnyp49> sure
#768 [05:56] <Superduper123> !paid Sergee237
#769 [05:56] <Superduper123> :D
#770 [05:56] <Superduper123> Thats my bro's acc.
#771 [05:56] <Superduper123> :D
#772 [05:56] <RobinJ24> lol
#773 [05:56] <Superduper123> !paid nskordas
#774 [05:56] <johnnyp49> do u guys know what I can do to make it work?
#775 [05:56] <Superduper123> Can someone help me?
#776 [05:57] <Superduper123> PLease?
#777 [05:57] <Superduper123> I have essentials on my server, but I don't know how to set the time for the ban.
#778 [05:57] <Superduper123> Can someone tell me how?
#779 [05:58] <Thrae> Superduper123: Essentials? Sounds like bukkit. Go to #bukkit -- /j #bukkit
#780 [05:58] <Superduper123> Banned.
#781 [05:58] <Superduper123> I have no idea why, ask my brother.
#782 [05:58] <Superduper123> He said some NOOOOOOOB banned him.
#783 [05:59] <Superduper123> He is always getting in trouble, ;/
#784 [05:59] <johnnyp49> does any1 know how I can solve my prob??? (read above)
#785 [05:59] <johnnyp49> mc just doesnt let me connect
#786 [05:59] <Thrae> Superduper123: Then ask on the forums, or in the thread for Essentials itself. Personally I heard compatibility problems with Essentials so I use CommandBook.
#787 [06:00] <Thrae> johnnyp49: You're on Windows, so what AV are you running?
#788 [06:00] <johnnyp49> av = anti virus?
#789 [06:00] <Thrae> Yep
#790 [06:00] <johnnyp49> antivir
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#792 [06:01] <Thrae> Hmm don't get that one a lot. Tried disabling it? And are you running any other security software -- Norton/Symantec, Mcafee, any firewalls, any internet protection/suites, etc.?
#793 [06:01] <Technogux> Hello?
#794 [06:01] <johnnyp49> only avira antivir
#795 [06:01] <johnnyp49> I try disabling it
#796 [06:02] <Thrae> Oh, right, silly me, I use Avira too and forgot they call their product "AntiVir"
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#798 [06:02] <johnnyp49> ^^
#799 [06:02] <Thrae> Technogux: As you can tell from all the talking no one's here, so whatever you do, don't tell us your problem
#800 [06:02] <Technogux> Anywone want to talk about Herobrine :p
#801 [06:02] <Thrae> johnnyp49: Is that the free version?
#802 [06:03] <johnnyp49> yep
#803 [06:03] <Thrae> Technogux: At 6am EST I think this channel is mostly dead, but there's always #minecraft and #mcchatter
#804 [06:03] <johnnyp49> no, disabling doesnt help
#805 [06:03] <Thrae> johnnyp49: Alright so not a suite, hmmm....
#806 [06:03] <guest-0-00548> i have a problem
#807 [06:03] <guest-0-00548> if i might ask for some assistance
#808 [06:03] <Thrae> guest-0-00548: Just tell us and we'll help if we can. If there's an error, paste it to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#809 [06:04] <guest-0-00548> does milenairre mod work on multi
#810 [06:04] <guest-0-00548> any bug, fix, workaround
#811 [06:04] <guest-0-00548> or anything?
#812 [06:04] <Thrae> johnnyp49: Can you connect to http://login.minecraft.net ? Should give you "Bad Login"
#813 [06:04] <Thrae> ?? mods
#814 [06:04] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#815 [06:04] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#816 [06:05] <guest-0-00548> thank you
#817 [06:05] <Thrae> guest-0-00548: Best thing I can tell you is to check the main thread for the mod and see if it says if it works or not
#818 [06:05] <guest-0-00548> sorry for the mix up
#819 [06:05] <guest-0-00548> thank you for the info
#820 [06:05] <Thrae> They usually say if it's just for SMP
#821 [06:05] <johnnyp49> I can connect on minecraft.net (the website), so my login data is correct
#822 [06:05] <Thrae> Errr SP not SMP
#823 [06:05] <Thrae> johnnyp49: That's not what we're testing here
#824 [06:06] <johnnyp49> sorry? dont understand what u mean
#825 [06:08] <johnnyp49> so? any more ideas that could help me?
#826 [06:08] <Thrae> johnnyp49: I'm testing whether the site http://login.minecraft.net works for you, as that's what the launcher uses to login
#827 [06:08] <johnnyp49> ah ok
#828 [06:08] <Thrae> If you get "Bad Login", that means it's not being blocked by something
#829 [06:09] <johnnyp49> I just cant connect to login.minecraft.net
#830 [06:09] <johnnyp49> no connection
#831 [06:09] <Thrae> Well that's not good
#832 [06:09] <Thrae> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#833 [06:09] <GreyBot> Thrae: It's just you. http://login.minecraft.net is up.
#834 [06:09] <johnnyp49> I agree ;) thats not good
#835 [06:09] <RobinJ24> Thrae What does that site do? I get bad login too
#836 [06:10] <Thrae> RobinJ24: Login process uses HTTPS
#837 [06:10] <johnnyp49> u got any more ideas how to fix it? what could be the problem?
#838 [06:10] <Thrae> johnnyp49: Specifically the site is https://login.minecraft.net , but http should redirect
#839 [06:11] <Thrae> ??> johnnyp49 win/unpirate
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#841 [06:11] <Thrae> VoxelHead: don't lie, you have that factoid
#842 [06:11] <johnnyp49> win/unpirate?
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#844 [06:12] <Thrae> ?? win/unpirate
#845 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> How about just:
#846 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/hosts
#847 [06:12] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#848 [06:12] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#849 [06:13] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Ah thanks....odd, win/unpirate is still in his index, and I did a clean refresh
#850 [06:13] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#850 [06:15] <Thrae> Also, if I posted MY hosts file, it wouldn't even fit on pastebin.com due to my use of both Spybot: S&D and Spywareblaster immunization -- hopefully not the case here!
#851 [06:15] <Sardonicus> Hi you nerds
#852 [06:15] <Sardonicus> Nerdy topic here
#853 [06:15] <Thrae> We love nerdy topics not about mods
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#855 [06:15] <JonathanG> Hi
#856 [06:16] <JonathanG> I have a question.
#857 [06:16] * Thrae nods to JonathanG
#857 [06:16] <Thrae> Elaborate.
#858 [06:16] <JonathanG> So.... I'm just wondering,if I still use MC 1.8
#859 [06:16] <JonathanG> And update
#860 [06:16] <JonathanG> Will the 1.9 features go to my world?
#861 [06:16] <johnnyp49> http://pastebin.com/XbQuHm0f
#862 [06:16] <JonathanG> Like the Enderman realm
#863 [06:17] <JonathanG> Or mushroom?
#864 [06:17] <TheNoodle> That's a little complicated.
#865 [06:17] <TheNoodle> Game play aspects, like the ability to create portals will be avaliable.
#866 [06:17] <TheNoodle> But you won't see new bioms or terrain generation in chunks that have already been generated.
#867 [06:17] <TheNoodle> *biomes
#868 [06:17] <Thrae> JonathanG: Some features may need new chunks to be generated. Features that involve new worlds like the Nether are separate, since they're multiworld.
#869 [06:18] <JonathanG> Oh
#870 [06:18] <johnnyp49> hey Voxelhead there u got the url
#871 [06:18] <JonathanG> But will my world at least...change a bit?
#872 [06:18] <JonathanG> With the realms,or mushroom?
#873 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> Only in newly generated chunks
#874 [06:18] <JonathanG> Awww
#875 [06:18] <JonathanG> Is there a solution?
#876 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Delete existing chunks?
#877 [06:19] <JonathanG> Oh how to do that?
#878 [06:19] <johnnyp49> hello?
#879 [06:19] <Thrae> JonathanG: Note you can use something like MCEdit to delete chunks where there's nothing player-generated on it (or chunks where there are, so be careful)
#880 [06:19] <JonathanG> Ohhhh MC edit,why didn't I think of that?
#881 [06:19] <JonathanG> But I better watch out,I don't want to delete villages lol
#882 [06:19] <JonathanG> Thx
#883 [06:19] <Thrae> johnnyp49: What's your Minecraft username?
#884 [06:20] <johnnyp49> johnnyp49
#885 [06:20] <JonathanG> Minecraft is getting really interesting
#886 [06:20] <Thrae> !paid johnnyp49
#887 [06:20] <johnnyp49> we had that ...
#888 [06:20] <Thrae> johnnyp49: And you pirated Minecraft before you bought it? Since your hosts file has "127.0.0.1 login.minecraft.net" in it. You have to remove that line.
#889 [06:21] <JonathanG> Does anyone support mod making here?
#890 [06:21] <Thrae> 127.0.0.1 redirects requests to your local computer instead of what the IP actually is.
#891 [06:22] <Thrae> ??> JonathanG mods
#892 [06:22] <VoxelHead> JonathanG: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#893 [06:22] <VoxelHead> JonathanG: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#894 [06:22] <Thrae> JonathanG: Not officially, no.
#895 [06:23] <johnnyp49> It works, thx alot Thrae :)
#896 [06:23] <johnnyp49> bye
#897 [06:23] <Sardonicus> hmmm
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#899 [06:24] <Sardonicus> Thrae are you at paypal?
#900 [06:24] <Thrae> Sardonicus: Uhh, what? Are you asking if I work for Paypal?
#901 [06:24] <Sardonicus> registered
#902 [06:24] <Sardonicus> do you have an account
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#904 [06:24] <Thrae> Yeah, I used it to buy Minecraft...
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#906 [06:25] <TNB> What does this error mean everytime Minecraft freezes and shows me this message?
#907 [06:25] <TNB> http://i.imgur.com/40dQc.jpg
#908 [06:25] <Sardonicus> you know they send some tiney sums for controlling
#909 [06:25] <TNB> English mine not good at all
#910 [06:25] <TNB> sorry
#911 [06:25] <JonathanG> brb
#912 [06:25] <Thrae> Yeah it can take a while sometimes, especially if you're not fully verified.
#913 [06:25] <JonathanG> Dinner
#914 [06:26] <Thrae> I haven't used it for receiving money in a long time.
#915 [06:26] <Sardonicus> yeah I'm waiting for the verification sums to appear for days :S
#916 [06:26] <Sardonicus> haha TNB
#917 [06:26] <Thrae> !kick TNB Well isn't that lovely.
#918 [06:26] * AuBot kicked Thrae from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hrae :No. Just...No.)
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#920 [06:26] <Thrae> Guess I still can't do that
#921 [06:26] <Sardonicus> well that was quite subversive :S
#922 [06:27] <Sardonicus> but I found it hilarious
#923 [06:27] * mib_5xubzh [mib_5xubzh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#924 [06:27] <drupal> haha
#925 [06:28] <drupal> that's great TNB
#926 [06:29] <mib_5xubzh> Ive Got an error when i go on to minecraft and load it it doesnt go past the downloading packages stage SOMEONE HELP!!! im a n00b
#927 [06:29] <drupal> needs more caps
#928 [06:29] <Thrae> mib_5xubzh: OK, are you using Windows? If so, what's your Anti-Virus and are you using anything like Internet Protection, Suites, Security, Firewall, etc.
#929 [06:29] <mib_5xubzh> wat?
#930 [06:30] <mib_5xubzh> my anti is avast
#931 [06:30] <TNB> mib_5xubzh use these instructions on this image
#932 [06:30] <TNB> http://i.imgur.com/40dQc.jpg
#933 [06:30] <Thrae> !ops TNB is linking http://i.imgur.com/40dQc.jpg
#934 [06:31] <mib_5xubzh> JUST TELL ME A PROPER ANSWER GESEZE
#935 [06:31] <TNB> !ops Thrae just linked http://i.imgur.com/40dQc.jpg again
#936 [06:31] <mib_5xubzh> I DO NOT CARE
#937 [06:31] <SkashKitsune> hang on, let's get rid of the idiot and help the people that wish to be helped
#938 [06:31] <mib_5xubzh> GIVE ME A PROPER
#939 [06:31] <Thrae> mib_5xubzh: Hmm usually Avast doesn't do it, but try disabling it anyway
#940 [06:31] <mib_5xubzh> kk
#941 [06:31] <mib_5xubzh> wait a sec
#942 [06:32] <drupal> um TNB some variety please
#943 [06:32] <Thrae> mib_5xubzh: Do you have any sort of Norton/Symantec or Mcafee software installed too?
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#945 [06:32] <torolo> hi, i have a question
#946 [06:32] <torolo> How change my email adress, on my minecraft account
#947 [06:32] <mib_5xubzh> nope still dont work
#948 [06:33] <JonathanG> back
#949 [06:33] <Thrae> torolo: Short answer -- you can't. Why are you asking?
#950 [06:33] <mib_5xubzh> Thrae: Nope still dont work
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#952 [06:33] <torolo> Because, my email adress is going be delete
#953 [06:33] <mib_ux1pe5> hi everyone
#954 [06:34] <Thrae> mib_5xubzh: Yeah I saw your response. OK, go to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp and tell us if Java works, and if so, the version number of Java it lists.
#955 [06:34] <RobinJ24> Surprised no one told mib_5xubzh to calm the hell down..
#956 [06:34] <torolo> Why, i can't change my email adress ?
#957 [06:34] <mib_ux1pe5> i moved the minecraft-exe in another location, now if I start the game it sais it can't connect to minecraft.net . why is that?
#958 [06:34] <mib_5xubzh> Thrae: thnx ill try
#959 [06:35] <mib_5xubzh> yep my jave is working
#960 [06:35] <mib_5xubzh> thrae: yep jave is working
#961 [06:35] <Thrae> mib_5xubzh: Yes, and I asked for the version it lists?
#962 [06:35] <mib_5xubzh> oh kk
#963 [06:36] <Thrae> mib_ux1pe5: OK, what Anti-Virus you running?
#964 [06:37] <mib_5xubzh> thrae: Version: Java SE 6 Update 27
#965 [06:37] <Thrae> mib_5xubzh: OK, hmm. Can you play Beta through the browser?
#966 [06:37] <mib_5xubzh> avast
#967 [06:37] <JonathanG> Hmm
#968 [06:37] <Thrae> mib_5xubzh: I was talking to mib_ux1pe5 -- I already asked you that question ;)
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#970 [06:37] <JonathanG> I still don't understand how to make a mod
#971 [06:37] <mib_5xubzh> yep but it doesnt install packages
#972 [06:38] <_303> Kealper: kickban TNB, he's back posting porn
#973 [06:38] <JonathanG> Is there another IRC chat that involves making mods?
#974 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> JonathanG - #risucraft
#975 [06:38] <Thrae> mib_5xubzh: Install packages? What do you mean? Is minecraft modded?
#976 [06:38] <JonathanG> Oh I see
#977 [06:38] * VoxelHead kicked TNB from #minecrafthelp (Reason: NB :Banned)
#978 [06:38] <JonathanG> Thx
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#980 [06:38] <_303> rather ban ip
#981 [06:38] <Kealper> that was a massively dumb ban, xchat
#982 [06:38] <JonathanG> I'll be going to #risucraft
#983 [06:38] <JonathanG> Thx for all the help
#984 [06:38] <Thrae> JonathanG: Just register your nick and you'll be able to talk there
#985 [06:38] <_303> there is a ban style setting iirc
#986 [06:38] <JonathanG> Oh ok
#987 [06:38] <mib_5xubzh> no ill send a pic
#988 [06:39] <Thrae> mib_5xubzh: Do you mean the in-browser version also stops when downloading Minecraft?
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#990 [06:39] <_303> /set irc_ban_type 2
#991 [06:39] <Thrae> Kealper: http://xchat.org/faq/#q28
#992 [06:39] <Kealper> is that *!*@host?
#993 [06:39] <mib_5xubzh> yes
#994 [06:39] <mib_5xubzh> thts it
#995 [06:39] <_303> Kealper: http://xchat.org/faq/#q28
#996 [06:40] <Kealper> yeah, reading atm lol
#997 [06:40] <mib_5xubzh> it stops
#998 [06:40] <Thrae> _303: Faster than a speeding 303
#999 [06:40] <mib_5xubzh> thrae: it stops
#1000 [06:40] * _303 acid
#1000 [06:40] <Kealper> hmm
#1001 [06:40] * Kealper likes ban type 1
#1001 [06:40] <Thrae> mib_5xubzh: OK, follow the instructions here for getting into "Safe Mode with Networking" in case you've never done it before -- http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm
#1002 [06:41] <mib_5xubzh> thnx ill take a nosey now
#1003 [06:41] <blackdot> hey guys, i just downloaded the minecraft server exe, but if I start it nothing happens. i have the latest java version (just updated)
#1004 [06:41] <Thrae> mib_5xubzh: When in Safe Mode with Networking, test Minecraft. If it works it'll give an OpenGL Acceleration Error or Pixel Format error due to not having video card drivers loaded -- the key is if it gets to that point than we've established it's something on your computer's startup
#1005 [06:42] <mib_5xubzh> kk
#1006 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> blackdot - Define, "nothing happens"?
#1007 [06:42] <Thrae> Kealper: Yeah they give different types for large channels where they care about stuff like dynamic IPs
#1008 [06:42] <mib_5xubzh> ill get into safe mode now
#1009 [06:43] * Thrae has been in plenty of channels where they, like, ban entire pools and entire countries
#1009 [06:43] <Kealper> Thrae: that's a bit overkill for bans lol
#1010 [06:43] <Thrae> Kealper: The first network I visited with frequency was EFNet ;)
#1011 [06:44] <Kealper> and that guy's IP address didn't resolve to a hostname, so it was probably a proxy anyways, in which case...it stays banned ._.
#1012 [06:44] <blackdot> ah... well.. the lack of action of anything... the mouse cursor shortly chances to an hourglass, but then back to normal... also no new process in the process manager
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#1014 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> blackdot - Operating system? What file did you download?
#1015 [06:44] <Thrae> blackdot: Does the client work on the same computer?
#1016 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> How are you launching it?
#1017 [06:44] <blackdot> yes the client does work, i have win 7
#1018 [06:45] <Kealper> holy crap it's almost 7am....where on earth did the night go
#1019 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Did you download minecraft_server.exe?
#1020 [06:45] * Kealper grumbles off to bed
#1020 [06:45] * GreyVulpine waves
#1020 [06:45] <Thrae> blackdot: Where are you putting the EXE?
#1021 [06:45] <blackdot> yes i downloaded the Minecraft_Server.exe (802 KB) on minecraft.net>download
#1022 [06:45] <mib_5xubzh> yeh thrae: it would not let me get into that safe mode options
#1023 [06:45] <blackdot> i put the exe in a random directory
#1024 [06:46] <blackdot> does it have to be the same location where the client-exe is?
#1025 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> blackdot - It does not
#1026 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> blackdot - How much RAM do you have on the system?
#1027 [06:46] <blackdot> 2 gb
#1028 [06:47] <Thrae> mib_5xubzh: Every Windows operating system since 95 has the F8 menu. Power off the computer and then turn it back on after how many seconds and immediately start hitting the F8 key in a rhymic fashion. The F8 menu should appear.
#1029 [06:47] <Thrae> blackdot: What's the directory you placed it in, exactly?
#1030 [06:47] <mib_5xubzh> thnx
#1031 [06:47] <mib_5xubzh> ill try NOW
#1032 [06:47] <Thrae> *rhythmic
#1033 [06:47] <blackdot> lets see : D:\!!!ALEX!!!\games\minecraft\minecraft server
#1034 [06:47] <Thrae> Ahaaaaa
#1035 [06:47] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1035 [06:48] <TheNoodle> ...lolled.
#1036 [06:48] <Thrae> blackdot: Minecraft fails on ! in a path, so just move it and you should be fine
#1037 [06:48] <blackdot> lol, really? why is that
#1038 [06:49] <Thrae> blackdot: Because ! is a special character in Windows paths that non-native Windows programming may not handle correctly due to the weird way Windows itself handles it
#1039 [06:50] <blackdot> wait, thats not true. i now moved it into D:\!!temps\download-temp , (the client is also here), and here it works... though its also a !-directory
#1040 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> The ! at the end is what affects it
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#1042 [06:50] * GreyVulpine has tested this before
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#1043 [06:50] <blackdot> haha, okay, didnt know that such a thing could matter
#1044 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> For java and windows, it does
#1045 [06:50] <blackdot> anyway, not it's working, thanks for the competent help
#1046 [06:51] <blackdot> *now
#1047 [06:51] <Jaredc> When I bought the game it charged me twice, is there anyway of getting my money back?
#1048 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net/support
#1049 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> There should be an option there
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#1051 [06:52] <Jaredc> Yeah i went there and went into refunds and then it said they don't do refunds which is kind of annoying, just sucks that they charged me twice and was wondering if it had happened to anyone else...!
#1052 [06:52] <mr_trousers> thrae: ive gone back on and still did not work
#1053 [06:52] <Thrae> Jaredc: You went in the wrong place -- Payment->Transaction
#1054 [06:53] <Jaredc> Ah! I'll have a look, thank you:)
#1055 [06:53] <mr_trousers> and for some reason it changed my name to mr_trousers
#1056 [06:53] <mr_trousers> *sigh*
#1057 [06:53] <Thrae> mr_trousers: /nick whateveryouwant
#1058 [06:54] <mr_trousers> thrae: whatever anyway i went on to safe mode and it did not let me run the internet (google chrome)
#1059 [06:54] <Thrae> Jaredc: Yeah it's not a refund in this case since it's the same transaction :)
#1060 [06:55] <Thrae> mr_trousers: It should let you at least use Internet Explorer, but regardless, you should be trying the launcher
#1061 [06:55] <mr_trousers> oh well i tryed internet explorer and it failer X(
#1062 [06:55] <mr_trousers> :(
#1063 [06:56] <mr_trousers> :S
#1064 [06:56] <Thrae> mr_trousers: There should be three options in the menu with "Safe Mode" in them -- "Safe Mode", "Safe Mode with Networking", and "Safe Mode with Command Prompt". Are you sure you picked "with Networking"?
#1065 [06:56] <mr_trousers> no i didnt
#1066 [06:56] <Thrae> If you don't pick "with Networking", no internet application will work.
#1067 [06:56] <mr_trousers> oops gotta go back and this time i will be called Daniel The Big Giant N00b
#1068 [06:56] <Thrae> Hence why I keep saying "Safe Mode with Networking" specifically
#1069 [06:57] <mr_trousers> sorry damn my n00b skills
#1070 [06:57] <Thrae> No one minds. That's what we're here for.
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#1072 [06:59] <blackdot> thanks and bye
#1073 [06:59] <mib_15febq> does any one know how to get minecraft plane mod working because all i have done is download them ant then im just screwed
#1074 [06:59] <mib_15febq> *and
#1075 [06:59] <Thrae> ??> mib_15febq mods
#1076 [06:59] <VoxelHead> mib_15febq: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#1077 [06:59] <VoxelHead> mib_15febq: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1078 [07:00] <Thrae> mib_15febq: That plane mod is a mess, like a lot of Flan's mods. Cool, but a mess. Good luck getting it to work.
#1079 [07:00] <mib_15febq> thanks voxellhead and i sure will try
#1080 [07:00] <Thrae> ?? bot
#1081 [07:00] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, sometimes a sock-puppet, but never an independant helper.
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#1084 [07:02] <DanielTheN00b> thrae: DAMN NDRLINK IS MISSING
#1085 [07:02] <Google> :o
#1086 [07:02] * Google it
#1086 [07:02] <RobinJ24> lol
#1087 [07:03] <DanielTheN00b> thrae:and my name is Daniel The N00b like is said it would be
#1088 [07:03] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: What do you mean? Is this a BSOD? What's NDRLINK?
#1089 [07:04] <DanielTheN00b> dunno i ran safe mode WITH NETWORKING and it said NDRLINK IS MISSING *sigh* i might just get a refund
#1090 [07:04] <DanielTheN00b> thrae:dunno i ran safe mode WITH NETWORKING and it said NDRLINK IS MISSING *sigh* i might just get a refund
#1091 [07:05] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: So you started Windows in Safe Mode with Networking and Windows told you this error message? Did you get far enough into Windows to try Minecraft?
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#1093 [07:05] <DanielTheN00b> no
#1094 [07:05] <Thrae> Two questions there...no on which?
#1095 [07:06] <DanielTheN00b> thrae:no on not getting as far as minecraft (and thts one question)
#1096 [07:07] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: Does trying to boot into Safe Mode with Networking give a Blue Screen or Black Screen with "NDRLINK IS MISSING" message, or is this a standard Windows error dialog box?
#1097 [07:07] <DanielTheN00b> black screem
#1098 [07:08] <DanielTheN00b> thrae: black screen
#1099 [07:08] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: I can't even bring up NDRLINK on Google, so I'm guessing it's some obscure network driver file for your particular hardware.
#1100 [07:08] * Google harder!
#1100 [07:09] <DanielTheN00b> thrae: well i not right good with pc's so maybe
#1101 [07:09] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: If Windows can't get into Safe Mode with Networking this means your computer's networking, or Windows itself, is seriously messed up. Well outside of the scope of Minecraft in particular. You're going to have lots of future problems without fixing this.
#1102 [07:10] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: Where did you buy this PC? Is it a brand-name, like Dell?
#1103 [07:11] <DanielTheN00b> My monitor is dell , my computer is asus and bought it ages ago
#1104 [07:12] <DanielTheN00b> thrae:My monitor is dell , my computer is asus and bought it ages ago
#1105 [07:12] <Thrae> Asus does not make desktops, they make hardware for desktops
#1106 [07:12] <Thrae> You don't have to keep repeating yourself -- we're the only ones talking right now
#1107 [07:12] <DanielTheN00b> well its an asus
#1108 [07:13] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: Well, do you happen to know the ASUS motherboard model?
#1109 [07:13] <Thrae> If not we have a few other ways of determining your integrated network chipset
#1110 [07:17] <DanielTheN00b> sorry
#1111 [07:17] <DanielTheN00b> my thingy
#1112 [07:17] <DanielTheN00b> is
#1113 [07:17] <DanielTheN00b> this
#1114 [07:17] <petern> ... asus do make desktops
#1115 [07:17] <DanielTheN00b> intel
#1116 [07:18] <Thrae> petern: They do? I thought they just make laptops and netbooks, and do not brand desktops.
#1117 [07:18] <Thrae> I know they design them, but not brand
#1118 [07:18] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: What's the model number of your ASUS desktop?
#1119 [07:18] <DanielTheN00b> Thrae:Intel is my brand not asus
#1120 [07:18] <Thrae> OK, I *know* Intel does not make desktops
#1121 [07:18] <DanielTheN00b> thrae: i did not see it probaly
#1122 [07:19] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: Usually they put it on the tower case
#1123 [07:19] <DanielTheN00b> DAMN where can i find who created this comp
#1124 [07:20] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: OK, we'll try something else. Is this Windows Vista or 7?
#1125 [07:20] <DanielTheN00b> i went on start>control panel>system>system properties and mine is windows xp
#1126 [07:21] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: OK, you're already in the right place -- open up Device Manager
#1127 [07:21] <DanielTheN00b> done it
#1128 [07:22] <DanielTheN00b> \just now
#1129 [07:23] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: OK, open up Network Adapters and tell me what's listed.
#1130 [07:24] <DanielTheN00b> Hamachi Network Interface,Ralink turbo wireless LAN Card and VIA Compatible Fast Ethernet Adapter
#1131 [07:26] <DanielTheN00b> :'(
#1132 [07:26] <DanielTheN00b> :ji
#1133 [07:27] <Thrae> One sec navigating VIA's webpage
#1134 [07:27] <DanielTheN00b> one question are you trying to hack me
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#1136 [07:28] <DanielTheN00b> yes or no
#1137 [07:28] <DanielTheN00b> :S
#1138 [07:28] <Thrae> The information you're giving me doesn't really help anyone hack you
#1139 [07:28] <DanielTheN00b> oh good
#1140 [07:28] <DanielTheN00b> keep going
#1141 [07:28] <Thrae> Try installing this driver -- http://www.viaarena.com/Driver/Velocity_WinXP_117a.zip
#1142 [07:29] <Thrae> Note that's VIA's own website, Mr. Hacker
#1143 [07:29] <DanielTheN00b> what does it do
#1144 [07:29] <Thrae> Updates your network adapter's drivers
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#1146 [07:30] <DanielTheN00b> is my software X64 / X84
#1147 [07:30] <frogzilla> how do update your video card drivers?
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#1149 [07:31] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: Those drivers are both, but your XP install is most likely 32-bit
#1150 [07:31] <frogzilla> ok
#1151 [07:31] <Thrae> frogzilla: Need to know your video card chipset manufacturer -- Intel, Nvidia, ATI, SiS, etc.
#1152 [07:31] <DanielTheN00b> never mind how do you refund
#1153 [07:32] <frogzilla> how do i get mine craft to work
#1154 [07:32] <DanielTheN00b> as in refunding minecraft
#1155 [07:32] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: "We do not issue refunds for purchased games and/or services.", from http://www.minecraft.net/support , selection Payment->Refund
#1156 [07:32] <frogzilla> well its intel
#1157 [07:33] <Thrae> frogzilla: Then you need to know the model of the chipset and enter it into downloadcenter.intel.com
#1158 [07:33] <frogzilla> ok
#1159 [07:34] <Thrae> DanielTheN00b: You can go there and submit a ticket directly to Mojang if you wish, http://www.minecraft.net/support and select Payment then Refund. There's a button, "I need further support". However I don't think Mojang will do more than just offer technical support as you can't get into Safe Mode, so there's something wrong with your system.
#1160 [07:34] <Thrae> frogzilla: If you need further help let us know
#1161 [07:35] <frogzilla> ok thanks bye!
#1162 [07:36] <Sun7zu> Hmmz. I just created a Creative server for Multiplayer. However, I'm the only one with unlimited resources. Why's that?
#1163 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> Was this a newly created world, or did you just set the gamemode property in server.properties on an existing world?
#1164 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> gamemodes are also set per-player
#1165 [07:38] <Thrae> Sun7zu: As a quick fix you can just set players to Creative manually using /gamemode playername 1
#1166 [07:39] <TheNoodle> Or even quicker: delete the folder called 'players' in your world folder.
#1167 [07:39] <Sun7zu> I did change it to gamemode=1, yeah
#1168 [07:39] <Thrae> I think "gamemode=1" only applies to ops
#1169 [07:39] <Sun7zu> Ah
#1170 [07:39] <Sun7zu> Will try that command, Thrae
#1171 [07:39] <Thrae> So set 'em manually or do what TheNoodle suggested
#1172 [07:40] <Thrae> Although I wouldn't do that in a Bukkit server
#1173 [07:40] <Sun7zu> He joined for the first time though
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#1175 [07:40] <Sun7zu> Command will be fine. Thanks guys, you're the best
#1176 [07:42] <mr_wibble> I need help, I bought minecraft 3 Times and thought I would be able to get a refund and nothing, minecraft didnt even come out?!?!?!?
#1177 [07:42] <Thrae> Sun7zu: NP., and that gamemode WILL be saved over multiple sessions, so you should only need to set it once
#1178 [07:42] <Sun7zu> Great, cheers :>
#1179 [07:42] <soraenkai> Can someone help me?
#1180 [07:42] <TheNoodle> mr_wibble, what username did you use? How did you pay? Did you get an email from mojang?
#1181 [07:42] <Thrae> mr_wibble: Did you check with your card issuer and/or bank that the payment was actually sent? Do you actually have multiple payments?
#1182 [07:43] <TheNoodle> Questions everywhere!
#1183 [07:43] <Thrae> soraenkai: We can't until you explain what's wrong
#1184 [07:43] <mr_wibble> legendsveil, just credit VISA and we get a email?
#1185 [07:43] <TheNoodle> !paid legendsveil
#1186 [07:44] <TheNoodle> Are you SURE you got an email from mojnag?
#1187 [07:44] <TheNoodle> And have you contacted your bank to see if a payment was made to Mojang AB?
#1188 [07:44] <Thrae> mr_wibble: Wait, sorry, there's a problem with your sentence. Did you get an email specifically from Mojang, or just Moneybookers? Were you using minecraft.net to buy the game? Mojang uses Moneybookers if you're not using Paypal.
#1189 [07:45] <soraenkai> There's the deal: I bought minecraft (a gift code) at 14-09-2011, it worked so i was playing MC, however i stopped playing it for a while, and now when i logged in minecraft.net it says user not premium.
#1190 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> Who did you buy the gift code from?
#1191 [07:45] <Thrae> soraenkai: We get this scam a lot. You didn't buy the gift code from minecraft.net, did you?
#1192 [07:45] <soraenkai> I didn't however it worked.
#1193 [07:45] <soraenkai> And it was fine until this log in.
#1194 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> soraenkai - Did you purchase the gift code from minecraft.net or a third-party site?
#1195 [07:46] <soraenkai> third party site.
#1196 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#1197 [07:46] <soraenkai> g2play.net to be precise.
#1198 [07:46] <RobinJ24> Those codes usually stop working
#1199 [07:46] <mr_wibble> I'm just so confused and tired rite now, but Mojang? and yeah minecraft.net
#1200 [07:46] <Thrae> soraenkai: Yeah, the scam is, chargeback on a credit card takes time for a small company like Mojang to process. It's a very common scam done to small businesses distributing over the Internet.
#1201 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> The only authorized seller of minecraft is Mojang, at minecraft.net
#1202 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> Anywhere else, and you run the risk of getting scammed
#1203 [07:46] <soraenkai> Then how can a code work and then stop working suddenly?
#1204 [07:47] <Thrae> soraenkai: I know g2play.net -- contact them and they should give you a refund
#1205 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> The code was legally purchased by that person, who sold it to you. They then issued a chargeback from mojang, so the code was invalided
#1206 [07:47] <mr_wibble> it said my purchase has been successful and i had to wait 1 hour
#1207 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> It's a very common scam
#1208 [07:47] <soraenkai> So i should ask for a refund or another code?
#1209 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> You should ask for a refund
#1210 [07:47] <self_slaughter> that sucks, i've never had any problems with g2play.net before
#1211 [07:47] <self_slaughter> give em an email they're normally pretty quick to respond and help out
#1212 [07:47] <soraenkai> neither did i.
#1213 [07:47] <soraenkai> They said to contact Notch.
#1214 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> Notch doesn't deal with resellers
#1215 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> Mojang has no authorized resellers of minecraft
#1216 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> Mojang even went as far as posting this: http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
#1217 [07:48] <soraenkai> *sigh* What should i write to them?
#1218 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> "As you may understand we cannot support people who purchase Minecraft from other sites than www.minecraft.net. The stolen codes will be inactivated in a given time."
#1219 [07:48] <self_slaughter> just tell em what happened and ask for a refund
#1220 [07:49] <self_slaughter> then buy it straight from minecraft.net :P
#1221 [07:49] <Thrae> soraenkai: The invalidation probably isn't automatic...odd that g2play.net is being so testy about it. I know they deal with gray market merchandise often, but it should be obvious to them there is absolutely no profit in selling gift codes, as AFAIK there is no discount for buying in bulk.
#1222 [07:49] <GreyVulpine> There is not.
#1223 [07:49] <mr_wibble> Ohh
#1224 [07:49] <soraenkai> i can't afford minecraft from minecraft.net tbh.
#1225 [07:50] <GreyVulpine> Well, the first clue should've been a cheaper gift code than you could've bought from minecraft.net
#1226 [07:50] <mr_wibble> so i havent really bought it?
#1227 [07:50] <Thrae> soraenkai: So think about how g2play.net could be offering a lower price than what's available on minecraft.net if they need to pay the same price to buy the gift code. Or do you really think there's enough people who buy gift codes and then say "Huh, I don't have any friends to give this to, might as well not even ask for a refund and just sell it to g2play.net"
#1228 [07:50] <mr_wibble> Im just confused
#1229 [07:50] <Thrae> mr_wibble: We're not talking to you
#1230 [07:50] <soraenkai> i paid 10eur for it.
#1231 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> soraenkai - Minecraft is 15 euros.
#1232 [07:51] <soraenkai> and my paypal is broke at the moment :|
#1233 [07:51] <soraenkai> that's why i bought it from a third rate reseller.
#1234 [07:51] <Thrae> You don't need to login to Paypal to buy Minecraft through Paypal if you use a Credit Card or Debit Card
#1235 [07:52] <Thrae> Also minecraft.net has Moneybookers too, which you can make an account with and use for banks too I think
#1236 [07:52] <GreyVulpine> soraenkai - The scam is this. I don't care if you get minecraft. I purchase minecraft through minecraft.net for 15 euros using my credit card. I then turn around and sell the gift code to you for 10 euros. Where's the profit in this you ask? I then issue a chargeback using my credit card. Your code is invalided, and I'm up 10 euros
#1237 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> That 10 euros is my "profit"
#1238 [07:53] <mr_wibble> so no help?
#1239 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> mr_wibble - Did you get any receipt of payment from moneybookers or paypal?
#1240 [07:53] <soraenkai> But my code was valid as some point.
#1241 [07:53] <SinZ> How CAN we help you, answer, we cant
#1242 [07:53] <Thrae> Yeah, as someone who's dealt with g2play.net before, they know scams like this happen since they buy codes from people and then sell them, but they're usually very helpful about it
#1243 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> soraenkai - It sure was.. up until I issued a chargeback on my credit card for the purchase
#1244 [07:54] <soraenkai> So i should complain and get a refund?
#1245 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> soraenkai - yes.
#1246 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Absolutely
#1247 [07:54] <soraenkai> Alright, i'll write an email and tell that i demand a refund.
#1248 [07:54] <self_slaughter> yeaap yup yup yup uh huh uh huh :P
#1249 [07:54] <mr_wibble> i'am not shure, I'm just 14 and just need to know of how can I know if I purchsed it, just tired man
#1250 [07:54] <Thrae> soraenkai: Complain to *g2play.net*, as you have no proof of purchase with Mojang
#1251 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> mr_wibble - If you purchased minecraft using a credit card, call up the credit card's customer service and see if there's a record of payment going to Mojang AB for minecraft
#1252 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> mr_wibble - If there isn't a record, the transaction was never completed on their end
#1253 [07:55] <mr_wibble> ok, Thanx :)
#1254 [07:55] <soraenkai> I'm using paypal.
#1255 [07:55] <soraenkai> Since it's more convienient.
#1256 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> soraenkai - Paypal also has a dispute center as well
#1257 [07:55] <mr_wibble> ok
#1258 [07:56] <Thrae> mr_wibble: Sometimes Credit Cards / etc. lock themselves automatically with escrow services like Moneybookers for International payments, and that's what minecraft.net uses if you don't select Paypal
#1259 [07:56] <Thrae> mr_wibble: It's automatic anti-fraud detection and more common than you may think
#1260 [07:56] <Thrae> Or it could be various other reasons, etc.
#1261 [07:57] <soraenkai> I'm just pissed, i bought many games from that site and now this happened.
#1262 [07:57] <mr_wibble> Ohh, so what else can I do?
#1263 [07:57] <Thrae> mr_wibble: Call your card issuer and/or bank like GreyVulpine said.
#1264 [07:57] <mr_wibble> k, thanx
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#1266 [07:59] <Thrae> soraenkai: I have half a mind to email them myself, as I've come to put a little trust in them. If they're selling Minecraft gift codes they have to know it's a scam.
#1267 [07:59] <Thrae> You can't gray market those.
#1268 [08:00] <self_slaughter> you've got me thinking twice about using g2play again
#1269 [08:00] <soraenkai> I see.
#1270 [08:00] <self_slaughter> I use them to buy a lot of steam games, I'd be devo'd if my steam account got disabled frtom a dodgy code one day and i lost a couple hundred games
#1271 [08:00] <GreyVulpine> Just use common sense. If you're getting something cheaper than what it actually costs, or if you think it's too good to be true... it usually is
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#1273 [08:01] <Thrae> self_slaughter: Yeah, that's why I avoided using it with Steam
#1274 [08:01] <soraenkai> It might be just minecraft.
#1275 [08:01] <Thrae> Steam is much more strict than, say, EA, and I personally bought all my Steam games
#1276 [08:02] <soraenkai> Well but steam prices are overrated.
#1277 [08:02] <GreyVulpine> Steam has tons of sales daily..
#1278 [08:02] <self_slaughter> ahh steam xmas sales send me broke every year
#1279 [08:02] <GreyVulpine> I've gotten a bunch of games at a fraction of what they usually cost by just simply waiting for the holidays
#1280 [08:03] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Well here we're dealing with the gray market and people re-selling keys, the latter of which is often legal, but Minecraft gift codes obviously can't be put in either category
#1281 [08:03] * GreyVulpine nods
#1281 [08:03] <soraenkai> Well expect the summer/xmas sales etc.
#1282 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> haven't dealt with those sites at all, so I'll take your word for it
#1283 [08:03] <soraenkai> Well i guess i'll just ask for another code and if same nonsense happens a refund.
#1284 [08:04] <self_slaughter> soraenkai: just ask for a refund and pay the extra couple of bucks and get it legit
#1285 [08:04] <GreyVulpine> I'd just simply ask for a refund.
#1286 [08:04] <self_slaughter> soraenkai: at least then you know there will be no dramas
#1287 [08:04] <self_slaughter> its not like other games on g2play that are $50+ cheaper
#1288 [08:05] <soraenkai> Well i still don't want to doubt g2play, so i'll just ask for a replacement.
#1289 [08:05] <soraenkai> I just wrote if same stuff happends, i require a refund.
#1290 [08:06] <self_slaughter> well good luck with it then :)
#1291 [08:07] <soraenkai> Thanks for the help guys.
#1292 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
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#1297 [08:28] <legohead579> hello?
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#1299 [08:29] <Pickels97> hi?
#1300 [08:29] <legohead579> can u help?
#1301 [08:29] <Pickels97> no i search for help :D
#1302 [08:29] <legohead579> o
#1303 [08:30] <Sun7zu> Try asking the question before trying to contact someone, works better :>
#1304 [08:31] <Pickels97> why can't i use &override=true in classic?
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#1306 [08:32] <legohead579> ok i have the minecraft server app and my server works as long as that app is running. is there a way to make it so i dont have to have that app open all the time. and i have to type localhost to get on it. can i fix this?
#1307 [08:32] <acmfan|requesting> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/695183-req-chemistrycraft/
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#1309 [08:34] <legohead579> so is there a way to fix it?
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#1313 [08:41] <acmfan|requesting> anyone?
#1314 [08:46] <GreyVulpine> modding issues are better suited for #risucraft
#1315 [08:47] <acmfan|requesting> don't get any answers there
#1316 [08:48] <GreyVulpine> Then ask again later
#1317 [08:49] <acmfan|requesting> you can't do it?
#1318 [08:50] <GreyVulpine> I don't do mods.
#1319 [08:50] <RobinJ24> this channel does not support mods acmfan|requesting
#1320 [08:51] <RobinJ24> Rofl did you guys see the updated article of Minecraft Pocket Edition on Minecraft wiki?
#1321 [08:51] <RobinJ24> According to Kappiche, pocket edition won't work with phones that suck[8]
#1322 [08:51] <acmfan|requesting> yeah
#1323 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> Link?
#1324 [08:51] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1325 [08:51] <acmfan|requesting> help, no, this chat
#1326 [08:51] <TheNoodle> ....what?
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#1328 [08:52] * TheNoodle waves at Iguana
#1328 [08:53] * Sardonicus waves back
#1328 [08:53] <Iguana> Sup
#1329 [08:53] <Sardonicus> hey what#s up partner
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#1331 [08:53] <TheNoodle> Not much, how are you today?
#1332 [08:54] <Sardonicus> I'm fine, thx, how r u?
#1333 [08:54] * SinZ stares at this conversation
#1333 [08:54] <TheNoodle> lol, I was talking to Iguana....
#1334 [08:55] <TheNoodle> "waves at Iguana"
#1335 [08:55] <Sardonicus> Oh, my name is Iguana
#1336 [08:55] <Sardonicus> real name ^^
#1337 [08:55] <TheNoodle> lol.
#1338 [08:55] <Sardonicus> :D
#1339 [08:56] <SinZ> http://pastebin.com/NgtMFGX5
#1340 [08:56] <Sardonicus> Well finally I have c4 in my hands... now if the paypal mony isn't on my bank account yet I can't guarantee for anything
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#1342 [08:56] <SinZ> its a triangle chat
#1343 [08:57] <SinZ> forgot 2 lines, sorry http://pastebin.com/4VEVCZTd
#1344 [08:57] <TheNoodle> lol
#1345 [08:59] <Sardonicus> damn have I to watch out now...
#1346 [09:00] <Sardonicus> brb
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#1355 [09:22] <Madriker> YAY!
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#1357 [09:22] <Madriker> My Tower of Power is working! :D
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#1362 [09:37] <Griffrez> Hello
#1363 [09:37] <Griffrez> Vulpine, are you there?
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#1366 [09:44] <Boreeas> Griffrez: Do you need help with anything?
#1367 [09:44] <Griffrez> Yes. I was having a problem the other day, where I was getting lag spikes every time I interacted with something, like a door, or collected wheat, or tall grass, and also catching blocks.
#1368 [09:44] <Griffrez> Every time I did something like that, I'd get a lag spike.
#1369 [09:45] <Boreeas> Griffrez: Do you know what version of java you are using?
#1370 [09:45] <Griffrez> Yes
#1371 [09:45] <Griffrez> 1.6
#1372 [09:45] <Boreeas> What build?
#1373 [09:46] <Griffrez> I was using 1.7, but GreyVulpine from here told me to change to 1.6 due to some problems that 1.7 might cause.
#1374 [09:46] <Griffrez> Update 27?
#1375 [09:46] <Boreeas> Alrigh
#1376 [09:46] <Boreeas> What graphics driver are you using?
#1377 [09:46] <Griffrez> Driver?
#1378 [09:46] <Griffrez> Ati Catalyst 11.9
#1379 [09:46] <Griffrez> ATI*
#1380 [09:47] <Griffrez> I've tested under several circumstances
#1381 [09:47] <Griffrez> Like
#1382 [09:47] <Griffrez> Vanilla.
#1383 [09:47] <Griffrez> With OptiFine, all types.
#1384 [09:47] <Boreeas> Is that driver up to date?
#1385 [09:47] <Griffrez> With Spoutcraft.
#1386 [09:47] <Griffrez> I believe so.
#1387 [09:47] <Griffrez> Lemme check
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#1389 [09:48] <Griffrez> As you can see here: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx ; Latest version is 11.9, so yes.
#1390 [09:48] <iceman8628> Hi, I was wondering if I could gain any assistance in attempting to set up my own server.
#1391 [09:49] <Griffrez> iceman8628: Do you have problem people connecting to you?
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#1393 [09:49] <iceman8628> I have a problem opening my port.
#1394 [09:49] <iceman8628> "The 25565 External Port is conflict!"
#1395 [09:49] <iceman8628> I keep getting that message.
#1396 [09:49] <Wildrunsfree> i need some help getting mods its my frist time :
#1397 [09:49] <Griffrez> iceman8628: Oh.
#1398 [09:49] <Boreeas> iceman8628: you probably have another application altready using that port
#1399 [09:49] <Griffrez> Wildrunsfree: What kind of help?
#1400 [09:49] <Griffrez> Wildrunsfree: Finding minecraft.jar? Putting the mod files into minecraft.jar?
#1401 [09:49] <Boreeas> ??Y wildrunsfree mods
#1402 [09:49] <iceman8628> Boreeas, Do I need to be on the computer that is attatched to the router to open the ports?
#1403 [09:50] <Boreeas> ??> wildrunsfree mods
#1404 [09:50] <VoxelHead> wildrunsfree: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#1405 [09:50] <VoxelHead> wildrunsfree: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1406 [09:50] <Griffrez> iceman8628: No.
#1407 [09:50] <Griffrez> iceman8628: All you need is to tell the router to redirect the port to your computer, your LAN address.
#1408 [09:50] <iceman8628> hmm
#1409 [09:51] <iceman8628> How would I go about doing that?
#1410 [09:51] <Boreeas> Griffrez: You did the usual, I take it? Reinstall minecraft, java, your drivers?
#1411 [09:51] <Griffrez> iceman8628: First you need to figure out what your IP is. Your LAN ID.
#1412 [09:51] <Griffrez> Boreeas: Yes, yes, no.
#1413 [09:51] <iceman8628> would that be my external or internal IP?
#1414 [09:51] <Griffrez> iceman8628: Neither, I believe, your LAN IP. Are you using Windows?
#1415 [09:52] <iceman8628> Yes.
#1416 [09:52] <Boreeas> Mhm. You might want to try that, but I don't think it will change anything. What are your graphics options?
#1417 [09:52] <Griffrez> iceman8628: Then do, on the keyboard Win + R .
#1418 [09:52] <Griffrez> And type ipconfig
#1419 [09:52] <Griffrez> Ops
#1420 [09:52] <Griffrez> I mean
#1421 [09:52] <Griffrez> type cmd
#1422 [09:52] <iceman8628> ipconfig?
#1423 [09:52] <Boreeas> yes
#1424 [09:52] <Boreeas> The console should pop up
#1425 [09:52] <iceman8628> Default Gateway?
#1426 [09:52] <Griffrez> No
#1427 [09:53] <Griffrez> Look for Local Area Network
#1428 [09:53] <Griffrez> A tab about it
#1429 [09:53] <iceman8628> I have Link-Local?
#1430 [09:53] <iceman8628> Link Local IPv6 Address
#1431 [09:54] <Griffrez> No
#1432 [09:54] <Griffrez> Look at the first tab, you might have to scroll up a little bit
#1433 [09:54] <iceman8628> Ahh okay
#1434 [09:54] <iceman8628> I see it
#1435 [09:54] <Griffrez> Then look for, under Local Area Network IPv4 Address
#1436 [09:54] <iceman8628> It says Media Disconnected
#1437 [09:54] <Griffrez> Oh
#1438 [09:54] <Griffrez> Ye
#1439 [09:54] <Griffrez> Because that's the ethernet adapter
#1440 [09:54] <Griffrez> Look for the wi-fi adapter
#1441 [09:55] <Griffrez> On the text
#1442 [09:55] <Griffrez> I'm sorry, it's just that my computer is ethernet only and my OS is in Portuguese. :P
#1443 [09:56] <iceman8628> I sent you a PM!
#1444 [09:56] <Griffrez> Boreeas: I'll look into reinstalling the drivers, thanks.
#1445 [09:56] <Boreeas> Can anyone help me with this: https://gist.github.com/1272311?
#1446 [09:57] <Boreeas> :O
#1447 [10:00] <TheNoodle> lol
#1448 [10:01] <Boreeas> Opeth, y u banned?
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#1454 [10:19] <Griffrez> Boreeas: OK, I'm going to take care of the driver constant.
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#1458 [10:24] <leaper> i cant run the game as it is saying i have a java issue ...i hane the latest java installed - so not sure what to do next- any ideas
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#1461 [10:28] <idontunderstandcrap> hey can u guys help me find a server?
#1462 [10:28] <idontunderstandcrap> halooooooooooooooooooo
#1463 [10:28] <TheNoodle> #smp
#1464 [10:28] <TheNoodle> Or http://minestatus.net
#1465 [10:29] <idontunderstandcrap> well i have the link but everytime i click it it takes me to the homepage also i dont remember the name but i was working on this rly cool project...
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#1467 [10:30] <Pimbo182> Hey Admin , I need your Help
#1468 [10:30] <Sardonicus> which one?
#1469 [10:31] <Pimbo182> Theres a problem with my account.can I change the e-mail somewhere?
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#1472 [10:34] <mr_wibble> how to get purchase help
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#1474 [10:37] <TheNoodle> Anyone still around and need help?
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#1477 [10:42] <jaz> hi, anyone there?
#1478 [10:42] <RobinJ24> yes
#1479 [10:42] <jaz> My friend has a prob with his minecraft
#1480 [10:42] <Tanjoodo> Hello, jaz.
#1481 [10:42] <jaz> when he starts the launcher
#1482 [10:42] <jaz> he gets that
#1483 [10:42] <jaz> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect</center></font></body></html>
#1484 [10:42] <Tanjoodo> Do
#1485 [10:42] <Tanjoodo> not
#1486 [10:43] <Tanjoodo> do this
#1487 [10:43] <jaz> and, if he then wants to login it says it can not connect
#1488 [10:43] <Tanjoodo> :/ vox
#1489 [10:43] <jaz> when he decides to play offline then, he can not connect to servers, even the ones with offline mode enabled
#1490 [10:43] <jaz> mine for example
#1491 [10:44] <Tanjoodo> Did he try reinstalling the game?
#1492 [10:45] <Tanjoodo> Hello?
#1493 [10:45] <jaz> yeah
#1494 [10:45] <RobinJ24> Lol tanjoodo
#1495 [10:45] <RobinJ24> @ the ban
#1496 [10:45] <jaz> he a did, but he was not able to download through the launcher
#1497 [10:46] <Tanjoodo> It sucked, RobinJ24 8D
#1498 [10:46] <jaz> i had to give him my data
#1499 [10:46] <RobinJ24> That thing has banned me twice
#1500 [10:46] <Ryladine> jaz: Have them disabled all AV/firewalls
#1501 [10:46] <jaz> but it was a clean installation
#1502 [10:46] <Tanjoodo> jaz: Maybe redownload the launcher?
#1503 [10:46] <jaz> yea
#1504 [10:46] <jaz> done
#1505 [10:46] <jaz> already
#1506 [10:46] <Ryladine> Which one?
#1507 [10:46] <jaz> windows
#1508 [10:46] <jaz> the normal .exe from minecraft.net
#1509 [10:46] <Ryladine> No, which solution has already been done
#1510 [10:46] <jaz> every
#1511 [10:46] <jaz> ^^
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#1513 [10:47] <Tanjoodo> hosts file, maybe?
#1514 [10:47] <jaz> what about it?
#1515 [10:47] <jaz> delete, add something?
#1516 [10:47] <Ryladine> All protection from the AV/firewalls is gone? All software, as well as the windows firewall?
#1517 [10:47] <Ryladine> ??> jaz win/hosts
#1518 [10:47] <VoxelHead> jaz: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1519 [10:48] <VoxelHead> jaz: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1520 [10:49] <jaz> http://pastebin.com/Ve0yVLbw
#1521 [10:50] <Ryladine> Nope, the hosts file is clean,
#1522 [10:50] <Tanjoodo> Yep.
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#1525 [10:51] <Tanjoodo> Are you sure Antivirus software and Windows Firewall are both disabled, jaz?
#1526 [10:51] <jaz> i put everything which is needed for running mc into exceptions in Windows FW and disabled that crap, still nothing
#1527 [10:51] <jaz> ^^ yeah i am
#1528 [10:52] <jaz> im controlling his pc right now
#1529 [10:52] <Tanjoodo> I don't know why, but sometimes reboots fix problems.
#1530 [10:53] <jaz> hehe trying to fix this for over a week now
#1531 [10:53] <jaz> several reboots
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#1533 [10:53] <Ryladine> Jaz, you said his java was up to date? What version is it on?
#1534 [10:53] <jaz> 7
#1535 [10:53] <jaz> 64 nad 32 bit
#1536 [10:53] <jaz> and
#1537 [10:53] <Ryladine> Downgrade.
#1538 [10:54] <Tanjoodo> :o
#1539 [10:54] <jaz> i have java 7 on the exact same notebook and it works
#1540 [10:54] <jaz> no 6
#1541 [10:54] <Ryladine> Uninstall java 7, and put it on java 6. 7 is known to cause a large ammount of problems with minecraft.
#1542 [10:54] <Tanjoodo> he has 6?
#1543 [10:54] <jaz> no no
#1544 [10:54] <jaz> we both use 7
#1545 [10:54] <jaz> for me it works fine on same specs and all
#1546 [10:54] <jaz> windows 7 64-bit
#1547 [10:55] <Ryladine> Get rid of 7, and put on 6. 7 is a dev build and not meant for public use.
#1548 [10:55] <Tanjoodo> It could be an another program conflicting with Java, try downgrading.
#1549 [10:55] <jaz> hmm k will try
#1550 [10:58] <Tanjoodo> I have to go, bye.
#1551 [11:00] <jaz> ty
#1552 [11:00] <jaz> guys
#1553 [11:00] <jaz> it worked
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#1555 [11:00] <jaz> yeah i thought j7 would be ok, but it seems like it was the prob...
#1556 [11:01] <jaz> for me it works, but if i get this issue, i know what i need to do then
#1557 [11:01] <jaz> ^^
#1558 [11:01] <jaz> cya and ty very much
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#1560 [11:05] <Boreeas> Urgh, wtf. I can copy any .class file excpet modload in the jar...
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#1563 [11:06] <Ryladine> lol
#1564 [11:06] <Boreeas> Really, it one goddamn file messing up my minecraft <y.<
#1565 [11:07] <Ryladine> lol
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#1567 [11:07] <Ryladine> ask in #risucraft
#1568 [11:07] <Ryladine> They may have an answer
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#1570 [11:07] <Boreeas> mhm,. thanks
#1571 [11:09] <mib_3n7d2s> I am attempting to install on mac os- but when i get to open it- it stays black- what is happening?
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#1573 [11:10] <iceman8628> Hello Darkness my old friend
#1574 [11:10] <TheNoodle> [continuation of lyrics]
#1575 [11:10] <iceman8628> I cant set up a minecraft server yet again!
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#1578 [11:11] <iceman8628> Because a vision of failed portforwarding
#1579 [11:11] <Griffrez> OK.
#1580 [11:11] <Griffrez> I'm back.
#1581 [11:11] <Griffrez> Boreeas: Are you there?
#1582 [11:11] <Griffrez> (Anyone willing to know what my problem is: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/interaction_lag_spikes )
#1583 [11:11] <mib_3n7d2s> I am reading- any help with us beginners?
#1584 [11:12] <RobinJ24> ?
#1585 [11:13] <Griffrez> I already tried reinstalling Minecraft, Java and my GPU drivers. I tried with OptiFine and without it. I tried on both SSP and SMP. I have expanded heap size. I tried with spoutcraft.
#1586 [11:13] <iceman8628> Have you gone through Java and tried changing the max allocated memory?
#1587 [11:13] <Griffrez> "I have expanded heap size."
#1588 [11:13] <Griffrez> Yes.
#1589 [11:13] <iceman8628> Oh right
#1590 [11:14] <iceman8628> Have you tried
#1591 [11:14] <Fiya> CPU is quad-core @ 2.65 GHz.. <- thats high-end? o.o
#1592 [11:14] <Griffrez> I actually Hex Edited the launcher
#1593 [11:14] <iceman8628> Uninstalling the game and walking away.
#1594 [11:14] <Griffrez> But same thing.
#1595 [11:14] <iceman8628> For forever.
#1596 [11:14] <Griffrez> Nah.
#1597 [11:14] <Griffrez> That's not the goal here.
#1598 [11:14] <Griffrez> Fiya: It kinda is.
#1599 [11:14] <iceman8628> Im about to.
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#1601 [11:15] <iceman8628> (anyone willing to help me setup a server PM me please)
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#1613 [11:32] <guest-0-00986> Hello, anyone here with a windows XP and a ATI-Graphic-Card ?
#1614 [11:33] <oletube> hey i got a little prob im installing several mods and i get this error http://pastebin.com/exKVmnFn
#1615 [11:33] <oletube> ive got vista and ati
#1616 [11:33] <guest-0-00986> Did you have a Problem with a Blackscreen when you used the Minecraft.exe ?
#1617 [11:34] <oletube> nope its fine for me
#1618 [11:34] <guest-0-00986> ~.~
#1619 [11:34] <guest-0-00986> Thx
#1620 [11:34] <oletube> try running as admin or in compatilbility mode
#1621 [11:35] <guest-0-00986> I tried new install of Java, new Install of Grahpic-Card-Driver, Compatilibity Mode of Win2000,WinME, a.s.o, update Graphic-Card Driver, searched at Java.com but nothing helps
#1622 [11:36] <oletube> noone wants to help me :*(
#1623 [11:36] <guest-0-00986> I want, but i can't ;)
#1624 [11:36] <Ryladine> ??> oletube mods
#1625 [11:36] <VoxelHead> oletube: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#1626 [11:36] <VoxelHead> oletube: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
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#1628 [11:37] <Ryladine> Guest, try updating your graphics card's drives
#1629 [11:37] <oletube> hmmm that is kinda fishy try http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang
#1630 [11:37] <Ryladine> What is kind of fishy?
#1631 [11:38] <Ryladine> oletube: What is kind of fishy?
#1632 [11:38] <oletube> another way of saying thats wierd
#1633 [11:38] <Ryladine> Oh, sorry guest. I didn't notice you had said you updated your graphics.
#1634 [11:39] <RobinJ24> oletube He meant what do you think is fishy
#1635 [11:39] <Ryladine> guest-0-00986: What version of java are you rnning?
#1636 [11:39] <guest-0-00986> 1.0.6_26 <- Java Version
#1637 [11:39] <Ryladine> Hmm
#1638 [11:40] <Ryladine> guest-0-00986: Can you give me the result of a dxdiag so I can ensure your graphics card's drivers are up to date?
#1639 [11:40] <Ryladine> ??> guest-0-00986 win/dxdiag
#1640 [11:40] <VoxelHead> guest-0-00986: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1641 [11:40] <VoxelHead> guest-0-00986: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1642 [11:40] <oletube> is it me or is voxelhead a bot?
#1643 [11:41] <Ryladine> b ot
#1644 [11:41] <Ryladine> bot*
#1645 [11:41] <Ryladine> Voxelhead. You are a bot.
#1646 [11:41] <Thrae> ?? bot
#1647 [11:41] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, sometimes a sock-puppet, but never an independant helper.
#1648 [11:41] <Ryladine> lol
#1649 [11:42] <guest-0-00986> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 10/8/2011, 17:41:28 Machine name: JK-PC93 Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.101209-1647) Language: German (Regional Setting: German) System Manufacturer: Acer System Model: Extensa 3000 BIOS: Rev 1.0 XXX Processor: Intel(R) Pentiu
#1650 [11:42] <Ryladine> no
#1651 [11:42] <Ryladine> Guest: USe pastebin
#1652 [11:43] <Ryladine> ??> guest-0-00986 pastebin
#1653 [11:43] <VoxelHead> guest-0-00986: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1654 [11:44] <oletube> ;__________;
#1655 [11:44] <guest-0-00986> http://pastebin.com/jUc94kK5
#1656 [11:45] <oletube> lol bot just said stop repeating charecters like that its rude
#1657 [11:45] <Ryladine> Guest. Your drivers are not up to date.
#1658 [11:45] <Thrae> guest-0-00986: Your installed drivers are from 2004 on a mobile graphics chipset that's from about 2000.
#1659 [11:46] <Thrae> This laptop is annnnncient. I actually have one like it.
#1660 [11:46] <Ryladine> Really? I thought the 9700 was newer than that.
#1661 [11:46] <Thrae> Maybe 2001
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#1663 [11:46] <mib_dj3kzn> anyone here
#1664 [11:46] <Ryladine> I will try to find newer drivers for you guest, but I cannot guarantee I will find any.
#1665 [11:47] <mib_dj3kzn> i try to connect a server and i constanly get end of stream
#1666 [11:47] <TheNoodle> Does it happen on other servers?
#1667 [11:47] <mib_dj3kzn> at my second favourite now
#1668 [11:47] <Thrae> guest-0-00986: This is the best bet for getting Minecraft, and most other games using OpenGL, working on your system -- http://www.hardwareheaven.com/modtool.php
#1669 [11:47] <mib_dj3kzn> no*
#1670 [11:48] <mib_dj3kzn> but it fixes after some m and then agai end of stream
#1671 [11:48] <Ryladine> ok, I've never had any luck finding the correct versions of mobility drivers anyway lol
#1672 [11:48] <Thrae> mib_dj3kzn: There's a problem with the server
#1673 [11:48] <Thrae> Ryladine: ATI doesn't offer drivers for old mobility chipsets, period
#1674 [11:48] <Thrae> One of the suckier things about them
#1675 [11:49] <Ryladine> Not even with their legacy stuff>
#1676 [11:49] <Ryladine> ?
#1677 [11:49] <Thrae> Yeah, their legacy releases are mainly for desktop chipsets
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#1679 [11:49] <Ryladine> Hmm... That would explain why I can almost never find them lol
#1680 [11:50] <cantupdate> help i cant update minecraft and its realy eritating!
#1681 [11:50] <Thrae> Even if it's in ATI's list, most of the Mobility drivers actually link here -- http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/737-28041SupportforATIMobility.aspx
#1682 [11:51] <Ryladine> lol
#1683 [11:51] <Ryladine> ATI cards are prety good, but their support does suck rather badly.
#1684 [11:52] <Thrae> mib_dj3kzn: It's a problem with that server, like your player file on that server
#1685 [11:52] <Thrae> cantupdate: OK, are you on Windows?
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#1687 [11:52] <mib_dj3kzn> k i will see what i can do to fix
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#1689 [11:58] <Brendan> I can't connect to my friend's server even though other people can without issue.
#1690 [11:59] <Thrae> Brendan: Are you running the same version as the server? Can you connect to other servers?
#1691 [11:59] <Brendan> I'm running the same version, I don't know if I can connect to other servers.
#1692 [11:59] <Thrae> Brendan: Try s.nerd.ru
#1693 [12:00] <Brendan> It's 1.8, if that makes a difference.
#1694 [12:00] <Brendan> And I could connect to it before.
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#1697 [12:00] <mib_kz8zzp> hello
#1698 [12:02] <Brendan> And the only mods I have are mcpatcher and finder compass.
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#1700 [12:03] <PvtZrobo> can i get help on a chrash i keep getting
#1701 [12:03] <Thrae> Brendan: Have you tried renaming the minecraft.jar and letting the Minecraft launcher re-download a fresh copy?
#1702 [12:03] <Brendan> I'll try it.
#1703 [12:03] <PvtZrobo> yes
#1704 [12:03] <Thrae> PvtZrobo: Paste the error report to www.pastebin.com and give us a link
#1705 [12:03] <PvtZrobo> http://mibpaste.com/xtIOF2
#1706 [12:04] <Thrae> PvtZrobo: You need to update your ATI graphics card driver from www.amd.com.
#1707 [12:04] <PvtZrobo> i arleady have tried that
#1708 [12:05] <Thrae> PvtZrobo: And what is your card?
#1709 [12:05] <PvtZrobo> let me see
#1710 [12:05] <Brendan> It's freezing when I try to update.
#1711 [12:05] <PvtZrobo> radeon 9250
#1712 [12:05] <Thrae> Brendan: What's your Anti-Virus? Any sort of security software, firewall, internet protection suite, etc. ?
#1713 [12:05] <Thrae> PvtZrobo: This a desktop or laptop?
#1714 [12:05] <Brendan> Avast
#1715 [12:06] <PvtZrobo> desktop
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#1717 [12:06] <Thrae> PvtZrobo: OK, one sec
#1718 [12:06] <Thrae> PvtZrobo: Did you install from this page -- http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/radeon-prer300-xp.aspx
#1719 [12:07] <Thrae> Brendan: Well something on your system seems to be blocking the update. Try disabling Avast.
#1720 [12:07] <PvtZrobo> no, i installed it from the Catalyst Control Center
#1721 [12:07] <Thrae> PvtZrobo: Try downloading and installing from that link.
#1722 [12:07] <PvtZrobo> ill try that
#1723 [12:08] <Brendan> Okay, I'll try that. This is what it looks like btw. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/errornk.png/
#1724 [12:10] <Thrae> Brendan: Yeah, we know stuff like that happens and there are various reasons for it -- usually involving security software on Windows.
#1725 [12:10] <Brendan> Didn't work.
#1726 [12:10] <Thrae> Brendan: OK, backup your .minecraft folder (copy it somewhere), then run this batch file...
#1727 [12:10] <Thrae> ??> Brendan win/reinst/bat
#1728 [12:10] <VoxelHead> Brendan: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1729 [12:10] <VoxelHead> Brendan: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#1730 [12:11] <Thrae> Brendan: That will wipe out all of Minecraft's game files without effecting your single-player worlds and saves.
#1731 [12:11] <Brendan> What about texture packs?
#1732 [12:12] <Thrae> I believe it removes those.
#1733 [12:12] <Brendan> K, I'll back them up then run it.
#1734 [12:14] <Thrae> Brendan: Make sure you don't put anything you back up back in place, like the texture packs, until we are sure it's working.
#1735 [12:15] <Brendan> I managed to connect, but it was really slow and not it's not responding.
#1736 [12:16] <Thrae> Brendan: Interesting....if it doesn't come back up, try backing up everything in .minecraft then removing the entire folder and letting the launcher re-make it from scratch. Let's eliminate everything.
#1737 [12:16] <Brendan> Okay
#1738 [12:17] <Brendan> It's switching between not responding and just being frozen.
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#1740 [12:21] <Dragon> TheNoodle
#1741 [12:21] <TheNoodle> Nope, he's asleep.
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#1743 [12:21] <Dragon> ok
#1744 [12:21] <Dragon> you are funny
#1745 [12:22] <TheNoodle> No seriously, I'm in bed, my ipad pinged when you said my name.
#1746 [12:22] <richard> hi i t conect to any server it is an kryss on the steps of conectsoins
#1747 [12:22] <Dragon> hik
#1748 [12:22] <Dragon> ok
#1749 [12:23] <richard> plz help me
#1750 [12:23] <Dragon> Thrae
#1751 [12:23] <Brendan> Thrae: I connected but it is incredibly slow. Nobody else who uses the server is having this kind of issue.
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#1753 [12:24] <Thrae> Brendan: Wait, so Minecraft isn't inherently slow, you're just lagging really bad? Does single player have any slowdown?
#1754 [12:24] <Brendan> I'll check.
#1755 [12:25] <Dragon> help me Thrae
#1756 [12:25] <Thrae> Dragon: How can anyone help you when we don't know what's wrong?
#1757 [12:25] <Dragon> ill tell you
#1758 [12:25] <Brendan> Nope, no issues with singleplayer.
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#1760 [12:26] <Thrae> Brendan: Try a different server, like s.nerd.ru
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#1762 [12:27] <Dragon> When I start a world it goes to the "saving chunks" screen.Then flashes the error report screen then goes black.
#1763 [12:27] <Brendan> Failed to connect.
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#1765 [12:27] <Thrae> That might be the wrong address, let's see....
#1766 [12:27] <Thrae> ?? smp/servers
#1767 [12:27] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1768 [12:27] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1769 [12:28] <Thrae> Brendan: Try some of those on that list. A random one in your country.
#1770 [12:28] <Thrae> Dragon: Using Windows?
#1771 [12:28] <Dragon> yes
#1772 [12:29] <Thrae> Dragon: Does it give any files like hs_err_pid in the same location as Minecraft.exe ?
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#1774 [12:29] <Brendan> No problem connecting to other servers.
#1775 [12:29] <Thrae> Brendan: Not only try connecting but also move around and see if there's any lag, etc.
#1776 [12:29] <Thrae> Like the slowdown you were getting
#1777 [12:30] <Dragon> not when it crashes like this.also I can use multiplayer
#1778 [12:30] <Thrae> Dragon: Download and use http://mc.kealper.com/mchelp/mcdebug.exe to launch and play Minecraft. When it crashes we'll get an automatic error report submitted to www.pastebin.com.
#1779 [12:30] <Brendan> I did.
#1780 [12:30] <Thrae> Brendan: OK, so that means there's most likely something wrong with your player file on the particular server you want to use. Have the admin try deleting it.
#1781 [12:30] <Thrae> It being your player file, not the entire server.
#1782 [12:30] <Brendan> Okay.
#1783 [12:31] <Dragon> brb
#1784 [12:31] <Brendan> Thanks for your help, I'll talk to him when I see him later.
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#1786 [12:32] <Dragon> it just crashed on me
#1787 [12:32] <Thrae> AuBot: We need that crash report
#1788 [12:32] <Thrae> Dragon: Did you select to send the report to pastebin?
#1789 [12:35] <Thrae> Dragon: You get this at loading chunks? Have you tried a new world?
#1790 [12:36] <Thrae> "Chunk file at -18,11 is in the wrong location; relocating. (Expected -18, 11, got -12, 28)" and "java.lang.NullPointerException" indicate a problem with the world you're trying to load
#1791 [12:36] <Dragon> what i was doing the first time it crashed was completing a map
#1792 [12:36] <Thrae> Well your Minecraft is also modded, that could have caused the crash
#1793 [12:36] <Dragon> no and yes
#1794 [12:37] <Thrae> Wait, so you get this same crash when making a NEW world?
#1795 [12:37] <Dragon> yes
#1796 [12:37] <Thrae> ??> Dragon win/reinst/bat
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#1798 [12:37] <VoxelHead> Dragon: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1799 [12:37] <VoxelHead> Dragon: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#1800 [12:37] <Thrae> Dragon: Use this batch file to download and try a clean copy of Minecraft.
#1801 [12:37] <Dragon> not in multiplayer though
#1802 [12:37] <Thrae> Your world and saves will be preserved.
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#1804 [12:38] <quibbit> why does my minecraft keep randomly saving chunks and then tell me that it has run out of memory?
#1805 [12:39] <Thrae> quibbit: In single player your own computer has to deal with the world, so it saves chunks from memory to disk.
#1806 [12:39] <Dragon> it stil does not work
#1807 [12:41] <Dragon> hello
#1808 [12:42] <Thrae> ??> Dragon mcedit
#1809 [12:42] <VoxelHead> Dragon: (mcedit) http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download.html
#1810 [12:42] <Thrae> Dragon: There's a problem with your world. Try loading it in MCEdit.
#1811 [12:43] <Dragon> ok
#1812 [12:43] <Dragon> brb
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#1814 [12:46] <lmh> Hello?
#1815 [12:47] <lmh> Can anyone get me help
#1816 [12:47] <lmh> ?
#1817 [12:47] <lmh> Help Meh!
#1818 [12:47] <Thrae> lmh: Yes?
#1819 [12:47] <lmh> Ok
#1820 [12:48] <lmh> I just deleted my .minecraft so it had no mods, Nothing
#1821 [12:48] <lmh> so it downloaded the packages and after that it black screens, and crashes
#1822 [12:49] <Thrae> lmh: Are you using Windows?
#1823 [12:49] <lmh> Yes
#1824 [12:49] <Thrae> ??> lmh win/dxdiag
#1825 [12:49] <VoxelHead> lmh: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1826 [12:49] <VoxelHead> lmh: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#1829 [12:52] <Dragon> how do i do it
#1830 [12:52] <Thrae> Dragon: Load the world in MCEdit and save it. Sometimes that fixes problems.
#1831 [12:52] <Dragon> i opened it.now what
#1832 [12:53] <lmh> http://pastebin.com/8hE92Qaa
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#1834 [12:54] <Thrae> ??< gpu/intel
#1835 [12:55] <Thrae> ??> lmh win/gpu/intel
#1836 [12:55] <VoxelHead> lmh: (win/gpu/intel) Some of the newer Intel graphics chipsets on Windows need Java to be limited to 800MB to avoid OpenGL errors. Try using this tool to launch Minecraft:
#1837 [12:55] <VoxelHead> lmh: (win/gpu/intel) http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Intel-MC.bat
#1838 [12:55] <Dragon> how do i save
#1839 [12:56] <lmh> Are you from the VoxelBox?
#1840 [12:56] <Dragon> thrae
#1841 [12:56] <Thrae> lmh: Whoops there's an error in that batch file. Use http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraftmx800.bat
#1842 [12:56] <VoxelHead> do you have any taquitos?
#1843 [12:56] <VoxelHead> master?
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#1845 [12:57] <lmh> Still crashes
#1846 [12:58] <Thrae> lmh: OK, copy the contents of errorlog.txt to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#1847 [12:58] <Thrae> Dragon: CTRL+S
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#1849 [13:00] <lmh> The crash report?
#1850 [13:00] <Thrae> Yes, the contents of errorlog.txt
#1851 [13:02] <lmh> http://pastebin.com/mAcu0Lxp
#1852 [13:03] <Dragon> what do i do now
#1853 [13:04] <Dragon> can you set up a pm for you and me thrae
#1854 [13:04] <Thrae> Dragon: I don't do help in PMs.
#1855 [13:04] <Thrae> Dragon: After you've saved the world in MCEdit, close it out and try Minecraft again.
#1856 [13:05] <Dragon> do you have a server
#1857 [13:05] <lmh> Did you get the link?
#1858 [13:05] <Thrae> lmh: OK, reviewing your driver it's pretty far out of date. Download and install -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20190/a08/Win7Vista_64_151717.exe
#1859 [13:06] <Thrae> lmh: That will update your graphics driver from 2009 to the latest in 2011.
#1860 [13:06] <Thrae> Dragon: Not a public one.
#1861 [13:06] <Dragon> still crashed
#1862 [13:06] <Dragon> ok
#1863 [13:06] <lmh> How do i update it for future reference?
#1864 [13:06] <Thrae> lmh: Go to downloadcenter.intel.com and enter in Intel G41 (your graphics chipset)
#1865 [13:07] <Thrae> lmh: It's the Intel G41 Graphics Media Accelerator
#1866 [13:07] <lmh> Ok
#1867 [13:08] <Thrae> Dragon: Backup your world then try using this utility -- http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admin-chunkster.8186/
#1868 [13:08] <Thrae> Dragon: Basically your world is messed up and needs to be repaired. If you don't have a backup of the world you may have lost it.
#1869 [13:08] <Dragon> what do you mean "backup"
#1870 [13:09] <Thrae> Dragon: The world is saved in %APPDATA%\.minecraft\saves
#1871 [13:09] <Dragon> i know
#1872 [13:09] <Thrae> By backup, just make a copy
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#1875 [13:15] <Dragon> i stuck
#1876 [13:16] <Dragon> sorry.im stuck
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#1878 [13:17] <Dragon> hello
#1879 [13:17] <Dragon> thrae
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#1881 [13:19] <Dragon> i need your help Thrae
#1882 [13:20] <Dragon> we are alone
#1883 [13:20] <Thrae> Dragon: Sorry, I need go AFK for a little while. I've already given you all the help I can for restoring a lost world -- you may end up with your world lost completely. You can ask someone else here for additional help, if they can.
#1884 [13:20] <Dragon> no
#1885 [13:20] <Dragon> i need help instailing the thing
#1886 [13:20] <wert1234> hi i wanna do an texturepack how to find the deutfault texture
#1887 [13:21] <VoxelHead> good morning shadow386
#1888 [13:21] <Shadow386> Good afternoon, Dr. VoxelHead
#1889 [13:22] <Dragon> Is VoxelHead a robot
#1890 [13:22] <Shadow386> I wouldn't call him a robot
#1891 [13:22] <Dragon> what is he than
#1892 [13:23] <Shadow386> A ninja
#1893 [13:23] <Dragon> ok
#1894 [13:23] <Dragon> I need help instaling a thing Thrae told me to install
#1895 [13:24] <wert1234> hi I wanna do an texturepack. but I dont know how to find the deutfault texture
#1896 [13:24] <Dragon> what do you mean wert1234
#1897 [13:25] <Dragon> hello
#1898 [13:25] <Shadow386> wert1234, get winrar, open minecraft.jar, find all the .png files, and copy them out
#1899 [13:26] <Dragon> can you help me Shadow386
#1900 [13:26] <Shadow386> depends
#1901 [13:26] <Shadow386> what do you need
#1902 [13:26] <Dragon> i need help installing something Thrae told me to install
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#1904 [13:27] <wert1234> hi I wanna do an texturepack how to find the deutfault texture
#1905 [13:27] <Dragon> he helped me a lot
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#1907 [13:28] <Shadow386> What thing is it?
#1908 [13:28] <Shadow386> I cant read minds
#1909 [13:28] <wert1234> hi i wanna do an texturepack how to find the deutfault texture
#1910 [13:28] <Dragon> hold on
#1911 [13:29] <Shadow386> wert1234, get winrar, open minecraft.jar, find all the .png files, and copy them out
#1912 [13:29] <Dragon> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admin-chunkster.8186/
#1913 [13:29] <Shadow386> you dont install it
#1914 [13:29] <wert1234> but I only find class files
#1915 [13:29] <Dragon> i downloaded it.I just dont know how to use it
#1916 [13:29] <Shadow386> there's instructions on the page, Dragon
#1917 [13:30] <Shadow386> wert1234, keep looking. the png files are in there
#1918 [13:30] <Shadow386> it's scattered accross foldes
#1919 [13:30] <Shadow386> folders*
#1920 [13:30] <Shadow386> one is called terrain.png
#1921 [13:30] <Dragon> i dont understand them
#1922 [13:30] <Shadow386> in the root
#1923 [13:30] <Shadow386> Dragon, how?
#1924 [13:30] <Shadow386> copy the file into your directory
#1925 [13:31] <Shadow386> run it with "java -jar Chunkster.jar worldDirectory"
#1926 [13:31] <Shadow386> and worlddirectory is the name of your world folder
#1927 [13:31] <Dragon> it says"server folder".But I dont have one.
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#1929 [13:31] <Shadow386> how do you not have a server folder?
#1930 [13:31] <Shadow386> the server folder is the folder with all the files for your server in it
#1931 [13:32] <Dragon> i have a servers.dat paper.but thats all
#1932 [13:32] <Scott> ??> Dragon mods
#1933 [13:32] <VoxelHead> Dragon: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#1934 [13:32] <VoxelHead> Dragon: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#1935 [13:33] <Shadow386> derp
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#1937 [13:34] <windrapier> When I try to run minecraft, I log in, and it says "can't connect to minecraft.net". My internet connection is working fine, and I don't know what is causing the problem
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#1942 [13:41] <Traficante69> Hey
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#1944 [13:44] <sparkkey1234> can someone help test a server?
#1945 [13:48] <sparkkey1234> can someone connect to my minecraft server for a lag test?
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#1947 [13:50] <VoxelHead> Mmm mib_cukgll.
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#1950 [13:57] <daviddye> Does anyone know where I can find my Minecraft purchace reciept?
#1951 [13:57] <RobinJ24> yout rmail
#1952 [13:58] <daviddye> Ah. K Thanks
#1953 [13:58] <RobinJ24> Typing in thr fark...
#1954 [13:58] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :O
#1955 [13:58] <RobinJ24> The dark
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#1957 [14:00] <mib_wljwd3> hi
#1958 [14:01] <mib_wljwd3> can i get help with video card drivers?
#1959 [14:02] <pvtzrobo> can i get help?
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#1961 [14:03] <pvtzrobo> can someone give me help with something?
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#1963 [14:05] <guest-0-47057> How can I change Nick?
#1964 [14:06] <pvtzrobo> ./nick
#1965 [14:06] <guest-0-47057> thx
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#1969 [14:08] <pvtzrobo> can someone give me a link to download drivers because it wont let me search
#1970 [14:08] <alphaelf> hey, i just made a minecraft account, and, i tried to to play the single player free mode, and it just gave me a black screen. what do i do?
#1971 [14:09] <Onename> Welcome in the club.
#1972 [14:09] <pvtzrobo> try redownloading it
#1973 [14:09] <Onename> Win XP ?
#1974 [14:09] <Onename> not working
#1975 [14:09] <alphaelf> ill try...
#1976 [14:10] <alphaelf> nope
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#1978 [14:10] <alphaelf> it just brings me to the game screen, but the game itself is just black
#1979 [14:10] <dustin545> Omg could you guys please help me with this it freaking me out http://pastebin.com/4SYhejAe go all they way down there so amny end of stream
#1980 [14:11] <alphaelf> cant help ya there...
#1981 [14:11] <dustin545> darn
#1982 [14:11] <dustin545> its os just ahh
#1983 [14:11] <dustin545> lol
#1984 [14:12] <alphaelf> this is whats happining to me: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play
#1985 [14:12] <Onename> I have a problem with my Graphic Driver (ATI Mobility Radeon 9700, Year 2004), so I get a Blackscreen without Error. Tried to redownload, tried to patch PCI-Standard-PCI-to PCI-Bridge, tried to mod (Failed) and nothing works. Can you help me?
#1986 [14:13] <alphaelf> is it just because i have a mac OS X?
#1987 [14:13] <pvtzrobo> wat version of osx?
#1988 [14:13] <alphaelf> eh, if i knew anything about computers then i whould try...
#1989 [14:13] <alphaelf> idk
#1990 [14:13] <alphaelf> let me check rlly quick
#1991 [14:14] <alphaelf> nope, still have no clue
#1992 [14:15] <alphaelf> all i know is that its a mac OS ten
#1993 [14:15] <Onename> Scroll up to the top of the Chat, there is a (not Official) solution
#1994 [14:15] <alphaelf> k
#1995 [14:16] <alphaelf> thx
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#1997 [14:19] <Morrolan> 'lo
#1998 [14:21] <tyteen4a03> hi
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#2002 [14:23] <mib_84a8vd> I recently bought the game for my son and it doesn't run and it says: # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
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#2005 [14:26] <Aphexan> Good evening!
#2006 [14:27] <mib_84a8vd> Can someone help me?
#2007 [14:27] <Aphexan> Anyone who could help me a bit with multiplayer? My server is acting weird...
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#2010 [14:27] <Aphexan> Offering gratitude and perhaps my firstborn in return
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#2012 [14:27] <mib_84a8vd> good evening aphexan
#2013 [14:28] <Aphexan> hey mb_84a8vd
#2014 [14:28] <VoxelHead> bye tyteen4a04
#2015 [14:28] <mib_84a8vd> I hope you can help me... my 7years son wants to play minecraft
#2016 [14:29] <Aphexan> Cant promise anything since I'm having trouble of my own at the moment but I'll try ;) Whats the issue?
#2017 [14:30] <mib_84a8vd> thank you! no problem... we have pc and mac at home and the game it doesn't run
#2018 [14:31] <Aphexan> Hum. So it doesn't even start when you click the Minecraft.exe?
#2019 [14:31] <mib_84a8vd> nope
#2020 [14:31] <mib_84a8vd> goes black
#2021 [14:32] <Aphexan> The whole screen?
#2022 [14:32] <mib_84a8vd> and if I try from the download it says that have some java error
#2023 [14:33] <mib_84a8vd> no j,no the whole screen
#2024 [14:33] <Aphexan> hmm. Have you tried updating java? I read something before about older java versions not being friendly to minecraft
#2025 [14:33] <mib_84a8vd> I have the latest version of java
#2026 [14:33] <mib_84a8vd> I restarted everything
#2027 [14:34] <Aphexan> hm then I have no idea.. Perhaps try to run it as administrator?
#2028 [14:34] <mib_84a8vd> hmmm.. I'll try then!
#2029 [14:35] <mib_84a8vd> thank you anyway!!! :-)
#2030 [14:35] <Aphexan> Because that, and redownloading it is the only thing i can think of for the moment, never heard of that error before.. No problem! :)
#2031 [14:36] <Aphexan> so.. anyone else who could help me with my server/multiplayer issue? :)
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#2033 [14:45] <VoxelHead> Watch out for the moose.
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#2035 [14:53] <Aphexan> so.. no serverexperts around?
#2036 [15:06] <Aphexan> goddamn >.<
#2037 [15:08] <Morrolan> Aphexan: Just ask your question, and if someobody has a clue he'll respond.
#2038 [15:09] <Aphexan> Sorry just frustrated!
#2039 [15:09] <Morrolan> understandable. ;)
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#2041 [15:10] <VoxelHead> i like them -_-
#2042 [15:10] <Morrolan> Vox, be quiet.
#2043 [15:10] * VoxelHead talks to Lunamon instead
#2043 [15:10] <Morrolan> Very well. :)
#2044 [15:10] <Aphexan> Me and the gf is trying to set up a server to play together but every now and then (from once per 5min to once per 10sec) we get extreme lag to the point of making it unplayable, and every now and then we cant destroy blocks or build, and then after a while we can again. Anyone know anything about that?
#2045 [15:10] <Aphexan> Ive been googling for a while but google and me arent friends tonight it seems :/
#2046 [15:11] <Morrolan> Well, since it's that sporadic it might just be the server (respectivley the PC it's hosted on) not being able to keep up. :/
#2047 [15:12] <Aphexan> Yeah the server posted messages about not being able to keep up a few times before, but the bugs came so much more often that I didnt think there was a connection
#2048 [15:12] <Lunamon> Vox picked me out of a channel full of 175 users
#2049 [15:12] <Lunamon> ://
#2050 [15:12] <Lunamon> Bleh.
#2051 [15:12] <Aphexan> whoa, Memory Usage:99%
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#2053 [15:13] <CoolAEW> Help!
#2054 [15:13] <Morrolan> Lunamon: Haha, whenever he does that I wonder whether that person has set up highlights :D
#2055 [15:13] <CoolAEW> Can somebody help me with an error?
#2056 [15:14] <Morrolan> Aphexan: Sounds as if this could be the issue. It might be worth running it with additional memory. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server#Start_the_Minecraft_Server_.28jar_version_on_Windows.29 explains how to do so.
#2057 [15:14] <Morrolan> CoolAEW: You might want to actually say what error you get. ;)
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#2059 [15:15] <Aphexan> Morrolan, thanks I'll give it a try! :)
#2060 [15:15] <CoolAEW> My game crashed, do you want to see the error-msg?
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#2062 [15:15] <Morrolan> CoolAEW: If it's longer than a few lines paste it on www.pastebin.com please.
#2063 [15:15] <Morrolan> Aphexan: Sure thing. YOu can also change the '512' in that command to '1024' for example, if you have enough memory to do so.
#2064 [15:16] <CoolAEW> http://pastebin.com/z0iLCJi6
#2065 [15:16] <Morrolan> Also, I'm gone for a bit, gotta restart my PC. If I don't return in time poke some of the +v or +o people. :)
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#2067 [15:16] <Morrolan> CoolAEW: You're running mods I see. Does it work without mods?
#2068 [15:17] <Morrolan> CoolAEW: If it does then you should ask in #risucraft , the IRC home of MC's Modding community.
#2069 [15:17] <CoolAEW> yes, i'm trying to install those mods you saw
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#2071 [15:18] <IneedzHELPZ> SOMEONE I NEED IMMEDIATE HELP!
#2072 [15:18] <Jaxxy> Hey Guys! I've just got Minecraft, it's awesome! But I can't seem to see any multiplayer servers when I click on "multiplayer". I've tried clicking "refresh" a few time with no avail...
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#2074 [15:19] <freya_89> !paid freya_89
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#2076 [15:19] <IneedzHELPZ> i just bought minecraft and i downloaded and every time i try ro launch it asks "would you like to update and i click yes but it says "error occured (4):/ by zero what do i do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2077 [15:19] <freya_89> grrrr
#2078 [15:20] <IneedzHELPZ> SOMEONEHELPZ MEEZ
#2079 [15:20] <minecraft6> were can u talk on a mic
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#2081 [15:22] <mib_rc7w7v> If you want to join a server you have to add it. Try searching google for servers.
#2082 [15:22] <IneedzHELPZ> CAN ANY1 HELP ME WITH MY MINECRAFT PROB?
#2083 [15:24] <IneedzHELPZ> IS ANY1 ON I NEEDZ HELPZ
#2084 [15:24] <Jaxxy> Ah, thanks mib_rc7w7v.
#2085 [15:25] <IneedzHELPZ> JAXXY DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT I POSTED ABOVE
#2086 [15:27] <freya_89> !paid ChuckDarwin
#2087 [15:27] <freya_89> !paid freya_89
#2088 [15:27] <IneedzHELPZ> FREYA I NEEDZ HELPZ
#2089 [15:28] <IneedzHELPZ> OMFG NO1 CAN HELP ME!!!!!!
#2090 [15:28] <freya_89> REALLY I DIDNT SEEM TO NOTICE YOU NEEDEDZ HELPZ
#2091 [15:28] <CoolAEW> Stop spamming, IneedzHELPZ!!!
#2092 [15:28] <freya_89> I CAN'T QUITE HEAR YOUZ
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#2094 [15:29] <IneedzHELPZ> my mine craft wont work all it says when i launch is "error occured (4):/ by zero
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#2096 [15:30] <freya_89> i'm currently trying to solve my own problem, i suggest you, redownload, minecraft here (www.minecraft.net)
#2097 [15:31] <freya_89> it will install the latest version
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#2099 [15:31] <freya_89> i had to do the same thing 2 days ago
#2100 [15:31] <IneedzHELPZ> i reinstalled java and minecraft
#2101 [15:31] <IneedzHELPZ> and i got nothing
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#2104 [15:32] <freya_89> i have no other advice, i'm a user just like you
#2105 [15:33] <bellows> So am I to understand that if I currently play on a Mac, my login problems cannot be helped until version 1.9 is out?
#2106 [15:35] * mib_a3qgd4 [mib_a3qgd4@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2107 [15:35] <IneedzHELPZ> that must suck bellows'
#2108 [15:35] <tyteen4a03> bellows: it's not a login problem, it's a graphics problem
#2109 [15:36] <IneedzHELPZ> my problem is much worse :(
#2110 [15:37] <tyteen4a03> IneedzHELPZ: Yes?4
#2111 [15:38] <IneedzHELPZ> i just bought the game and when i try to launch it asks me if i want to update i click yes it says error occured (4):/ by zero
#2112 [15:38] <IneedzHELPZ> i click no and it gets stuk on the loading screen
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#2114 [15:39] <IneedzHELPZ> does any1 know the scource to my prob above
#2115 [15:40] <CoolAEW> somebody know how to solve this? de3cf365
#2116 [15:40] <CoolAEW> no, noth that :P
#2117 [15:40] <CoolAEW> This: http://pastebin.com/z0iLCJi6
#2118 [15:40] <IneedzHELPZ> ok...
#2119 [15:40] <IneedzHELPZ> what the problem exactly
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#2121 [15:43] <IneedzHELPZ> HEELPP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#2124 [15:45] <VoxelHead> i wish they didnt have to go =(
#2125 [15:45] <IneedzHELPZ> voxel can u help me
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#2127 [15:46] <mib_8bk501> hey can someone help me i play minecraft for 5-10 min and its shuts down an pulls up a fatal error has ben pulled up by java runtime enviorment plz help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2128 [15:47] <IneedzHELPZ> i have sort of the same prob mib
#2129 [15:47] <mib_8bk501> have you fixed it indeed
#2130 [15:48] <mib_8bk501> help
#2131 [15:48] <IneedzHELPZ> when it asks me to update i click yes and it says LAUNCH FAILED FATAL ERROR OCCURED (4):/ BY ZERO
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#2133 [15:48] <VoxelHead> Mmm mib_qsczon.
#2134 [15:49] <mib_8bk501> yeah me2 but says fatal error by java
#2135 [15:49] <IneedzHELPZ> and when i click no it gets stuck at the done loading screen
#2136 [15:49] <IneedzHELPZ> :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
#2137 [15:49] <mib_8bk501> :(:(
#2138 [15:49] <IneedzHELPZ> :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
#2139 [15:50] <IneedzHELPZ> no1 can helpz me
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#2141 [15:50] <Aphexan> Still no luck with the serverissues either >.<
#2142 [15:52] <mib_8bk501> :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
#2143 [15:53] <IneedzHELPZ> :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:((:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:((::(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
#2144 [15:55] <Wug> CEASE THIS MADNESS
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#2146 [15:56] <Wug> ??> mib_84a8vd dx
#2147 [15:56] <VoxelHead> mib_84a8vd: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2148 [15:56] <VoxelHead> mib_84a8vd: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2149 [15:56] <Wug> ??> IneedzHELPZ forceupdate
#2150 [15:56] <VoxelHead> IneedzHELPZ: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2151 [15:56] <VoxelHead> IneedzHELPZ: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2152 [15:57] <NightLoneWolf> has anyone ever had their single click act like a double click in minecraft?
#2153 [15:58] <IneedzHELPZ> i tried forcing the update it wont worck
#2154 [15:59] <VoxelHead> cya l8r
#2155 [16:00] <IneedzHELPZ> it still says failed to launch fatal error occured (4):/ by zero
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#2157 [16:00] <Wug> umm
#2158 [16:00] <Wug> does running as admin work
#2159 [16:02] <IneedzHELPZ> i dont kow how to run admin im just a user wanting to play minecraft so if u know how im all ears
#2160 [16:03] <Wug> what os are you on?
#2161 [16:03] <Wug> windows vista/7, running as admin is in the right click menu
#2162 [16:04] <IneedzHELPZ> im on windows 7
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#2164 [16:05] <IneedzHELPZ> i dont see anything about admin on my R-click menu
#2165 [16:06] * NightLoneWolf is still confused on my issue about one click = two clicks in minecraft
#2165 [16:06] * mib_8d201s [mib_8d201s@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2166 [16:06] <mib_8d201s> i have a question
#2167 [16:07] <IneedzHELPZ> my advice is check your mouse settings or get a new 1
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#2169 [16:07] <Griffrez> Hello
#2170 [16:07] <IneedzHELPZ> mib_ what is your question
#2171 [16:07] <Griffrez> My problem is the one posted here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/interaction_lag_spikes
#2172 [16:07] <Griffrez> I wish I could have some support in this matter. Thanks.
#2173 [16:08] <NightLoneWolf> the mouse isn't a problem, i've tried several of my mice, all acted the same, but it could be the settings
#2174 [16:08] <mib_8d201s> when i try to login to minecraft it says can't connect to minecraft.net and says i didn't download it but i did! and if i click try again it does it over and over again! Got an idea on how to fix this???
#2175 [16:08] <IneedzHELPZ> i do
#2176 [16:08] <IneedzHELPZ> ummmmm
#2177 [16:08] <IneedzHELPZ> well the same thing is happening to me
#2178 [16:09] <IneedzHELPZ> try to play online
#2179 [16:09] <mib_8d201s> it wont even let me login
#2180 [16:09] <mib_8d201s> says can't connect to minecraft.net
#2181 [16:10] <NightLoneWolf> same problem; it just thinks that the mouse is held down for too long or something...
#2182 [16:10] <mib_8d201s> the mouse??
#2183 [16:10] <IneedzHELPZ> try playin from browser mib_
#2184 [16:11] <mib_8d201s> i did i get a blank screen
#2185 [16:11] <mib_8d201s> let me try again hold on
#2186 [16:11] <NightLoneWolf> mib_8d201s, i'm talking about a different problem
#2187 [16:11] <mib_8d201s> oh ok
#2188 [16:11] <IneedzHELPZ> lonewolf sadly i dont know how to enter mouse options but im sure u can figure it out
#2189 [16:12] <Ryladine> What sort of mouse options are you needing lonewolf?
#2190 [16:12] <mib_8d201s> yep all i get is a blank screen and it says minecraft beta at the top
#2191 [16:12] <IneedzHELPZ> ok umm'
#2192 [16:13] <NightLoneWolf> whenever i click to place, or delete, a block in minecraft 1.8, it thinks i've clicked twice or something, therefore deleting or creating two blocks
#2193 [16:13] <Ryladine> Hmm
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#2195 [16:14] <IneedzHELPZ> mib_0 i advise u to delete your minecraft launcher then reinstall
#2196 [16:14] <Dreon> ok
#2197 [16:14] <Dreon> i'll try that
#2198 [16:15] <Ryladine> NightLoneWolf: I have never encountered a problem like that before, does it ony happen in minecraft?
#2199 [16:15] <Ryladine> NightLoneWolf: Can you click a shortcut and have it open like you doubleclicked it?
#2200 [16:15] <NightLoneWolf> only in minecraft
#2201 [16:15] <Ryladine> NightLoneWolf: What version of java are you running?
#2202 [16:15] <Dreon> that double click thing happens on my other com. to
#2203 [16:15] <NightLoneWolf> prob 1.6
#2204 [16:16] <Ryladine> Check please.
#2205 [16:16] <Ryladine> ?? java/version
#2206 [16:16] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2207 [16:16] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2208 [16:16] <Griffrez> Can someone help me with the following problem? http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/interaction_lag_spikes
#2209 [16:17] <Ryladine> Griffrez: Check your version of java as well
#2210 [16:17] <Griffrez> 1.6
#2211 [16:17] <Griffrez> For sure
#2212 [16:17] <IneedzHELPZ> i have a brand new computer and i just bought minecraft and it wont work when i click update(yes i have latest version of java)
#2213 [16:17] <Ryladine> You are 100% certain?
#2214 [16:17] <Griffrez> Yes
#2215 [16:17] <Ryladine> IneedzHELPZ: Try disabling your firewall/AV
#2216 [16:17] <Griffrez> Still checking to be 200% certain
#2217 [16:18] <NightLoneWolf> yes, i'm at 1.6
#2218 [16:18] <Griffrez> Yup
#2219 [16:18] <Griffrez> V6u27
#2220 [16:18] <NightLoneWolf> i'm update 20 version 6
#2221 [16:18] <Ryladine> NightLoneWolf: Go ahead and try force-updating minecraft.
#2222 [16:19] <NightLoneWolf> i have, several of times
#2223 [16:19] <IneedzHELPZ> im update 20 version 8 maybe im not sure
#2224 [16:19] <Griffrez> Lol
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#2226 [16:19] <Griffrez> Version 8? Yup.
#2227 [16:19] <IneedzHELPZ> nvm im 6
#2228 [16:19] <Ryladine> Guys, I'm afaird I need to go for a bit, I'll be back in a few minutes, if no one else joins to help you.
#2229 [16:20] <IneedzHELPZ> ok
#2230 [16:20] <NightLoneWolf> i'm gonna try to update java, that might work
#2231 [16:20] <NightLoneWolf> i wonder if java 1.7 would be better...
#2232 [16:22] <Griffrez> Boreeas
#2233 [16:22] <Griffrez> Are you back?
#2234 [16:23] <IneedzHELPZ> my prob is still not being solved when i launch it says would u like to update it gives me 2 choices yes and no when i click no it gets stuck at 9/10 of the loading bar and says its done loading
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#2236 [16:24] <IneedzHELPZ> when i click yes it says failed to launch an error has occured (4):/ by zero how do i fix this
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#2238 [16:25] <Boreeas> No, I'm not
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#2240 [16:32] <NightLoneWolf> well, if updating java isn't gonna work i'll be back :P
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#2242 [16:34] <leaper> Hey
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#2245 [16:34] <NightLoneWolf> hello leaper
#2246 [16:34] <leaper> I cant play minecraft classic with my friend
#2247 [16:35] <leaper> Ive paid for the game, and everything
#2248 [16:35] <NightLoneWolf> i think only minecraft survival is available for multiplay
#2249 [16:36] <NightLoneWolf> but i did hear that if you're an op, you can change between classic and survival mode...
#2250 [16:36] <NightLoneWolf> so, you and your friend would both need to be ops...don't ask me how though, i'm looking for help too :P
#2251 [16:37] <leaper> Well i played the outdated minecraft with my friend a couple days ago with the same accounts as we are now
#2252 [16:37] <leaper> worked fine
#2253 [16:37] <NightLoneWolf> outdated, as in 1.7.3?
#2254 [16:38] <leaper> as in 0.30
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#2256 [16:38] <NightLoneWolf> well, that version was just minecraft classic...are you still playing that? or are you using 1.8?
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#2258 [16:39] <NightLoneWolf> Calinou, i would really like help, i have no clue how to help leaper xD
#2259 [16:39] <Calinou> yeah... so what's your problem? :)
#2260 [16:39] <leaper> im using 1.8 at the moment, but i quit, went to the homepage, and clicked on play minecraft classic multiplayer
#2261 [16:40] <NightLoneWolf> (i have a problem too, but i'm waiting until java is done updating to see if that fixed it)
#2262 [16:42] <leaper> i updated my java, like 20 minutes ago for the same cause
#2263 [16:42] <rowgaming> ive got a problem i trying to recover my account because i lost my password and it said it was going into my inbox i waited still nothing but it works with the other acc i got do i need to show the recipit or something?
#2264 [16:43] <NightLoneWolf> leaper, thankfully you have faster internet then i do...downloading anything over 10MB takes over an hour
#2265 [16:43] <NightLoneWolf> for me *
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#2267 [16:44] <rowgaming> but i waited like ages i try redoing it but still wont work
#2268 [16:46] <leaper> Ok, but what about minecraft NightLoneWolf
#2269 [16:46] <NightLoneWolf> that took about 30 minutes for me to fully download it xD
#2270 [16:47] <NightLoneWolf> i think
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#2272 [16:47] <NightLoneWolf> idk, i was busy doing something else while minecraft was downloading xD
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#2276 [16:53] <xarcus> hello?
#2277 [16:53] <bugweiser> hey
#2278 [16:53] <NightLoneWolf> hi
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#2280 [16:54] <_Toaster_> does anyone know why my launcher says "can't connect to minecraft.net"? I saw many others having the same problem, but no solution
#2281 [16:54] <xarcus> i need help with my minecraft can any one help me
#2282 [16:54] <xarcus> ?
#2283 [16:54] <bugweiser> Toaster this somtimes happends
#2284 [16:54] <bugweiser> TT
#2285 [16:54] <bugweiser> Just try again later
#2286 [16:55] <bugweiser> thats normaly the problem
#2287 [16:55] <NightLoneWolf> xarcus, just ask, anyone here might know
#2288 [16:55] <bugweiser> xarcus depends t
#2289 [16:55] <bugweiser> whats the problem is
#2290 [16:55] <xarcus> ok well my macbook wont let me load any worlds with out straight away getting the black screen of death this has happened straight away after i updated it to 1.8
#2291 [16:56] <rowgaming> it said it will be back to normal to mac users when 1.9 comes out
#2292 [16:56] <NightLoneWolf> i read somewhere, i think it was jeb_ twitter, that 1.8 doesn't work correctly with mac
#2293 [16:56] <xarcus> realy so its broken untill then?
#2294 [16:57] <rowgaming> yep
#2295 [16:57] <xarcus> wow?
#2296 [16:57] <xarcus> do you know when 1.9 comes out?
#2297 [16:57] <rowgaming> i looked it up on wiki
#2298 [16:57] <NightLoneWolf> well, you could get the 1.7.3 again
#2299 [16:57] <NightLoneWolf> or see if 1.9pre3 would work
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#2301 [16:57] <rowgaming> donno when 1.9 comes out but hopefully not for too lng
#2302 [16:57] <rowgaming> *long
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#2304 [16:58] <xarcus> right ok how would i intstall the pre release or the previous version?
#2305 [16:58] <bugweiser> xarcus
#2306 [16:58] <bugweiser> i just found this
#2307 [16:58] <bugweiser> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/
#2308 [16:58] <bugweiser> perhaps thatll help with the black screen
#2309 [16:58] <NightLoneWolf> ...your on a mac...hmm....i wouldn't know...
#2310 [16:59] <bugweiser> opengl fix
#2311 [16:59] <NightLoneWolf> i know where you can download the prerelease
#2312 [16:59] <bugweiser> as macs dont like opengl 1.3
#2313 [17:00] <xarcus> right ok
#2314 [17:00] <bugweiser> xarcus that should allow you to play the game
#2315 [17:01] <xarcus> so how do i apply this download to the game? like a mod ? if so how do i apply a mod?
#2316 [17:01] <bugweiser> like a mod
#2317 [17:01] <xarcus> how do i do that?
#2318 [17:01] <bugweiser> do you nkow how to get to the .minecraft folder?
#2319 [17:01] <xarcus> not really?
#2320 [17:02] <bugweiser> give me a min
#2321 [17:02] <bugweiser> ill look it up for u
#2322 [17:02] <xarcus> thanks
#2323 [17:06] <bugweiser> with the link to the mod
#2324 [17:06] <bugweiser> there was a video
#2325 [17:06] <bugweiser> telling you how to install
#2326 [17:06] <bugweiser> as a i have a windows
#2327 [17:06] <bugweiser> i have no idea how to use macs
#2328 [17:06] <bugweiser> do that
#2329 [17:06] <bugweiser> or play 1.9 prelease 3
#2330 [17:07] <xarcus> ok thanks
#2331 [17:07] <NightLoneWolf> anyone has any clue about having your mouse act like it's double clicked when it's just been single clicked, and only happens on minecraft?
#2332 [17:07] <bugweiser> nightlonewolf
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#2334 [17:07] <bugweiser> i have that somtimes
#2335 [17:07] <Kiefe99> hello
#2336 [17:07] <bugweiser> hello kief
#2337 [17:07] <Kiefe99> can someone help me
#2338 [17:07] <bugweiser> try closing other progra
#2339 [17:07] <NightLoneWolf> yes?
#2340 [17:08] <bugweiser> gpragrams night
#2341 [17:08] <Kiefe99> my sons minecraft was stolen 4 weeks after purchasing it how do i get it back ?
#2342 [17:08] <RobinJ24> How was it stolen?
#2343 [17:08] <bugweiser> ok
#2344 [17:08] <NightLoneWolf> hmm..i guess i could try...
#2345 [17:09] <Kiefe99> my sons says a guy used a cracked minecraft to steal his which makes no sense ..
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#2347 [17:09] <Kiefe99> he is on you tube with my sons account
#2348 [17:09] <Eli> Hello?
#2349 [17:09] <RobinJ24> Ah...so he changed the password?
#2350 [17:09] <NightLoneWolf> hello eli
#2351 [17:09] <Kiefe99> yeah guy who stole it changed the pass
#2352 [17:10] <Guest34408> hey there
#2353 [17:10] <RobinJ24> Kiefe99: Ðid you reset the password?
#2354 [17:10] <Guest34408> I was directed here by minecraft.net ti find answers here for my problems in minecraft
#2355 [17:10] <NightLoneWolf> hey eli/ Guest25335
#2356 [17:11] <Kiefe99> it wont let us log in it says login failed
#2357 [17:11] <NightLoneWolf> go ahead and ask
#2358 [17:11] <RobinJ24> Kiefe99 Try this http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
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#2360 [17:12] <Guest34408> First problem: FPS is very low, although I have a quad core processor, a great GPU, and 4GBs of ram
#2361 [17:12] <NightLoneWolf> Guest34408, ask your question
#2362 [17:12] <Kiefe99> now he is saying when he sets a new password it is sending to an old email he forgot pass ...man what a mess lol
#2363 [17:13] <bugweiser> guest34408 what is your graphics card?
#2364 [17:13] <NightLoneWolf> Guest34408, 1.8 or 1.9pre?
#2365 [17:13] <NightLoneWolf> what version is your minecraft
#2366 [17:13] <Guest34408> between 20-50 fps, jumping around...
#2367 [17:13] <Guest34408> 1.8.1
#2368 [17:13] <Guest34408> graphic card : Nvidia 9800 GT 1024 Mbs
#2369 [17:13] <RobinJ24> Does he know what email he registered to? Is it possible to recover the password to that Email account?
#2370 [17:13] <NightLoneWolf> thats alot faster then what mine is xD
#2371 [17:14] <bugweiser> guest34408 have you tried optifine?
#2372 [17:14] <RobinJ24> uh, registered with*
#2373 [17:14] <Guest34408> what's opifine?
#2374 [17:14] <Kiefe99> kk i will try brb
#2375 [17:14] <NightLoneWolf> ...i should try optifine...
#2376 [17:14] <bugweiser> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-181-optifine-hd-a-fps-boost-hd-textures/
#2377 [17:14] <bugweiser> it boosts your FPS
#2378 [17:15] <bugweiser> optimizes craphics
#2379 [17:15] <bugweiser> generally removes lag
#2380 [17:15] <bugweiser> you install it like a mod
#2381 [17:15] <Guest34408> ahha..how do I do that?
#2382 [17:15] <NightLoneWolf> i hope it works with my dual-core, intel gfx xD
#2383 [17:15] <Guest34408> by the link?
#2384 [17:15] <bugweiser> guest
#2385 [17:15] <bugweiser> ok
#2386 [17:16] <bugweiser> Download OptiFine 1.8.1_HD_A
#2387 [17:16] <Guest34408> alright downloading now
#2388 [17:16] <bugweiser> do you know how to acsess the minecraft folder?
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#2390 [17:17] <Guest34408> I've got another question, it happens to me after a while that the game crashes and sends an error "Out of memory.... ... .. game has saved blah blah " then exits... something like that..any ideas?
#2391 [17:17] <bugweiser> gues
#2392 [17:18] <bugweiser> guest that happends becasue of ram fully loaded
#2393 [17:18] <bugweiser> its normal
#2394 [17:18] <bugweiser> normally lowereing your render distance helps
#2395 [17:18] <bugweiser> to normal
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#2398 [17:18] <guest-0-51490> ei yo who do i update to 1.9 prerelease
#2399 [17:19] <RobinJ24> Download the jar and replace the jar inside .minecraft/bin
#2400 [17:20] <bugweiser> guest-0-51490
#2401 [17:20] <bugweiser> do you have a windows button on your keyboard?
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#2405 [17:22] <Guest34408> well I gotta go, thanks for the help , I will tell you if that solved my problems
#2406 [17:22] <bugweiser> ok
#2407 [17:22] <Guest34408> bye for now
#2408 [17:23] <bugweiser> bye
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#2410 [17:24] <NightLoneWolf> i quit all the programs i can bugweiser, still double clicks when i single
#2411 [17:24] <Kiefe99> gonna take 24 hrs to get pass back from my network provider lol
#2412 [17:25] <bugweiser> what computer are you running?
#2413 [17:25] <bugweiser> NightLoneWolf
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#2415 [17:26] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go T_T
#2416 [17:27] <NightLoneWolf> laptop, dual core 2.6GHz, intel gfx, 3GB ram, i'm making minecraft use 256M though
#2417 [17:27] <NightLoneWolf> vista
#2418 [17:27] <bugweiser> sounds good
#2419 [17:27] <bugweiser> the only thing i can recomend is optifine
#2420 [17:27] <bugweiser> goodnight every1
#2421 [17:27] <bugweiser> ive got to go
#2422 [17:28] <NightLoneWolf> well, i'll try that if i can download it
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#2426 [17:38] <VoxelHead> Bye kaioshi.
#2427 [17:38] <NightLoneWolf> i'll be back
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#2430 [17:39] <mr_pants> Help
#2431 [17:39] <mr_pants> Somebody
#2432 [17:40] <mr_pants> Can Somebody Help me?
#2433 [17:40] <RobinJ24> mr_pants ask your question
#2434 [17:40] <mr_pants> well
#2435 [17:40] <mr_pants> When I try to start up minecraft Java wont load
#2436 [17:41] <mr_pants> ?
#2437 [17:41] <RobinJ24> Do you have the latest version installed?
#2438 [17:41] <mr_pants> Yes
#2439 [17:42] <mr_pants> I just Downloaded Java like 5 Seconds ago
#2440 [17:42] <mr_pants> Sometimes Java Works and MC loads
#2441 [17:42] <RobinJ24> Andyou're on windows?
#2442 [17:42] <mr_pants> Google Chrome
#2443 [17:43] <RobinJ24> On windows XP/7/Vista?
#2444 [17:43] <mr_pants> 7
#2445 [17:43] <mr_pants> I mean
#2446 [17:43] <RobinJ24> And you play in browser?
#2447 [17:43] <mr_pants> Windows Xp
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#2449 [17:43] <mr_pants> I play On browser
#2450 [17:44] <mr_pants> Cas When I'm not on browser I can't play Multi Player
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#2452 [17:45] <mr_pants> Are you there?
#2453 [17:46] <mr_pants> dude
#2454 [17:46] <mr_pants> You there.
#2455 [17:46] <mr_pants> -.-
#2456 [17:48] <mr_pants> Are You just typing something long
#2457 [17:48] <mr_pants> I'll spam.
#2458 [17:48] <mr_pants> hh
#2459 [17:48] <mr_pants> h
#2460 [17:48] <mr_pants> h
#2461 [17:48] <mr_pants> hh
#2462 [17:48] <moose40> i need a little help on my minecraft... my minecraft loads but than gos to a black screen and then stops what do i do
#2463 [17:48] <RobinJ24> I couldn't access it but I think this site checks if you have the latest version: http://java.sun.com/products/personaljava/javacheck.html Use it to double check
#2464 [17:48] <mr_pants> Robin is helping me not you :3
#2465 [17:49] <mr_pants> moose
#2466 [17:49] <moose40> ya
#2467 [17:49] <mr_pants> Do you have a HD texture pack?
#2468 [17:49] <moose40> nope
#2469 [17:49] <RobinJ24> any mods?
#2470 [17:49] <mr_pants> Were you trying to get mods?
#2471 [17:49] <moose40> nope
#2472 [17:49] <mr_pants> Well than I cant help
#2473 [17:49] <moose40> poop
#2474 [17:49] <VoxelHead> Pooooooooop.
#2475 [17:50] <mr_pants> moose I would search mine craft Patcher on google.
#2476 [17:50] <moose40> kk thx
#2477 [17:51] <mr_pants> O and robin that Website you gave me isnt a website
#2478 [17:52] <mr_pants> Robin
#2479 [17:52] <mr_pants> You there
#2480 [17:52] <mr_pants> :P
#2481 [17:52] <mr_pants> :D
#2482 [17:52] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2483 [17:52] <mr_pants> :3
#2484 [17:52] <mr_pants> <.<
#2485 [17:52] <mr_pants> >:O
#2486 [17:53] <mr_pants> Im gonna leave in 10 secs if you dont respond Robin
#2487 [17:53] <RobinJ24> I'm a volunteer, I don't work for mojang...
#2488 [17:53] <RobinJ24> does the screen go white?
#2489 [17:53] <mr_pants> no
#2490 [17:53] <mr_pants> Well
#2491 [17:53] <mr_pants> When I go to minecraft theres a Java PIcture with a Loading bar that wont load
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#2493 [17:54] <RobinJ24> So you get stuck with the loading bar?
#2494 [17:54] <Insadesu> AnyONE who plays Minecraft under any LINUX system?
#2495 [17:54] <mr_pants> Yah
#2496 [17:54] <Insadesu> That'd include Fedora, U/K/X/EduBUNTU.
#2497 [17:55] <Insadesu> mr_pants - you do? hurray!
#2498 [17:55] <mr_pants> Wait no
#2499 [17:55] <Insadesu> lol
#2500 [17:55] <mr_pants> I was talking to robin
#2501 [17:55] <Insadesu> Yeah I noticed..
#2502 [17:55] <RobinJ24> yes Insadesu
#2503 [17:55] <RobinJ24> I use ubuntu
#2504 [17:55] <Insadesu> :3 hey neighbor
#2505 [17:55] <Insadesu> I got a serious problem. What version are you running?
#2506 [17:56] <mr_pants> I use A Dell Inspirion From 2005
#2507 [17:56] <Insadesu> Ubuntu*
#2508 [17:56] <RobinJ24> umm
#2509 [17:56] <Insadesu> I use a DELL Inspirion 1525.
#2510 [17:56] <mr_pants> mines 1501
#2511 [17:56] <Insadesu> :P
#2512 [17:56] <Insadesu> RobinJ24: Have you installed mods on Minecraft?
#2513 [17:56] <mr_pants> robin I was here first help me
#2514 [17:57] <mr_pants> :)
#2515 [17:57] <VoxelHead> =]
#2516 [17:57] <mr_pants> :}
#2517 [17:57] <RobinJ24> No Insadesu I rarely play actually cause usually my minecraft lags to death
#2518 [17:57] <mr_pants> Me to
#2519 [17:57] <mr_pants> I get 1 FPS
#2520 [17:57] <mr_pants> But I need help
#2521 [17:57] <mr_pants> Robin
#2522 [17:57] <mr_pants> Hlep
#2523 [17:58] <Insadesu> My Minecraft runs cool.
#2524 [17:58] <Insadesu> 1GB RAM, 1.70 GHz.
#2525 [17:58] <Insadesu> (;
#2526 [17:58] <mr_pants> Robin any suggestions
#2527 [17:58] <mr_pants> ?
#2528 [17:58] <mr_pants> ?
#2529 [17:58] <mr_pants> ?
#2530 [17:58] <Insadesu> Oh.. well, I need someone who PLAYS Minecraft ON Linux.
#2531 [17:58] <Insadesu> Cause I have trouble installing the Zelda AdventureCraft mod.
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#2533 [17:59] <mr_pants> Ok robin you have 10 seconds to respond intel Im leaving :3
#2534 [17:59] <mr_pants> bye
#2535 [17:59] <RobinJ24> Insadesu Uh, what kinda mod is it?
#2536 [18:00] <Gurkenglas> There should be like a moderated channel in which Mojang talks with some people about ideas
#2537 [18:00] <Gurkenglas> And the suggestions from the public go to those people who then select the nonspam
#2538 [18:01] <RobinJ24> You mean a minecraft suggestion thread?
#2539 [18:01] <RobinJ24> channel*
#2540 [18:02] <Gurkenglas> RobinJ24, yep
#2541 [18:02] <Insadesu> RobinJ24: It uses the .jar inside /.minecraft/bin
#2542 [18:02] <Insadesu> RobinJ24: Specifically 1.7.3 (that's what I think),
#2543 [18:02] <RobinJ24> Well there is a subforum for that in the official Minecraft Forums
#2544 [18:02] <Insadesu> Also must be completely clean, the .jar
#2545 [18:02] <RobinJ24> What's the problem Insadesu?
#2546 [18:03] <Insadesu> Well.. when I click on 'INSTALL' opening the AdventureCraft.jar
#2547 [18:03] <Insadesu> The minecraft.jar (supposedly 1.7.3) goes to 0 bytes inside /bin/.
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#2549 [18:03] <Insadesu> And when I click on 'INSTALL' again, it says corrupt or not 1.7.3
#2550 [18:03] <Insadesu> How am I supposed to do this? although I'm not sure if it is 1.7.3.
#2551 [18:04] <RobinJ24> When did you download minecraft?
#2552 [18:05] <Insadesu> What do you mean?
#2553 [18:05] <Insadesu> I don't own the 1.7.3 jar so I've DLed some I've found in the Internet.
#2554 [18:05] <Insadesu> All of them end up with 0 bytes.. so it might not be those jars, I may be wrong.
#2555 [18:05] <RobinJ24> If your minecraft jar is 0 bytes you should probably find another one
#2556 [18:06] <Insadesu> No no.
#2557 [18:06] <Insadesu> The jar at first says 1.4 MB.
#2558 [18:06] <Insadesu> After clicking on Install, that same jar drops down to 0 bytes.
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#2560 [18:06] <Gurkenglas> RobinJ24, but IRC is so much more direct!
#2561 [18:06] <Gurkenglas> And quicker
#2562 [18:07] <RobinJ24> Ah.. I don't know then, I've never used that kind of mods. This channel doesnt support mods, though, try #risucraft instead
#2563 [18:07] <Insadesu> Yeah, I know.
#2564 [18:07] <Insadesu> That's where I came from.
#2565 [18:07] <Insadesu> They told me #minecrafthelp, because #risucraft is based on Mod Making, not Mod Installing.
#2566 [18:09] <RobinJ24> Gurkenglas Yeah but then they'd end up with lots of suggestions, its easier if everything is gathered in one place where they can look at any time
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#2568 [18:09] <RobinJ24> Insadesu Let's see if voxelhead says something useful
#2569 [18:09] <RobinJ24> ?? mods
#2570 [18:09] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#2571 [18:09] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2572 [18:11] <Insadesu> #risucraft - mod help here
#2573 [18:11] <Insadesu> RIGHT. I got kicked..
#2574 [18:11] <Insadesu> Seriously, if there's a mod making channel, why not a mod installing channel?
#2575 [18:12] <Insadesu> I'd make one, but I myself need help on installing a mod.
#2576 [18:12] <RobinJ24> Did you try the url?
#2577 [18:12] <Insadesu> Yes.
#2578 [18:12] <Insadesu> It didn't help me, at all.
#2579 [18:12] <Insadesu> This isn't just any mod.
#2580 [18:13] <Insadesu> It's a completely different game.
#2581 [18:13] <Insadesu> Except, it uses your .jar and saves the game on /saves/.
#2582 [18:13] <Insadesu> You also don't open with Minecraft.
#2583 [18:13] <Insadesu> You open it with 'AdventureCraft.jar/exe' and clicking on START.
#2584 [18:13] <Insadesu> After installing it, installing it is my problem..
#2585 [18:13] <RobinJ24> It's a custom client?
#2586 [18:13] * Kealper would like to take this time to say that we don't provide support for mods or 3rd-party software in this channel
#2586 [18:14] <Gurkenglas> RobinJ24, lots of suggestions are better :o
#2587 [18:14] <Insadesu> I'm taking with RobinJ24, not with you.
#2588 [18:14] <Insadesu> talking.8
#2589 [18:15] <RobinJ24> lol I was going to say what Kealper said...unfortunately we don't provide support for mods here
#2590 [18:16] <Insadesu> 'we'. I already said I was talking to you.
#2591 [18:16] <Insadesu> I've heard that like a hundred times.
#2592 [18:16] <Scott> Kealper / Thrae: As per your request: http://minecraftirc.net/forum-18.html
#2593 [18:16] <Insadesu> There isn't an official channel for mod installing, so where do you suppose I go?
#2594 [18:16] <Insadesu> I got kicked out of #risucraft because it states, that it is only for mod making help.
#2595 [18:17] <Scott> They kicked you out for asking how?
#2596 [18:17] <Insadesu> Nope.
#2597 [18:17] <Insadesu> I told someone that kept talking after me about soup to shut up and I got kicked out.
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#2599 [18:18] * Scott goes to find out if they help with installing mods now.
#2599 [18:18] <Kealper> they don't kick people out of that channel just for asking how to install a mod, they kick people out of that channel for breaking their channel rules....
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#2601 [18:21] <Scott> Kealper: I guess I'll see.
#2602 [18:21] <Scott> Kealper: <Risugami> Scott we are not a substitute for google. tell them to go there first
#2603 [18:22] <Kealper> well then
#2604 [18:22] * Kealper will take note of that
#2604 [18:22] <Scott> So apparently, they don't help much anymore.
#2605 [18:22] <Kealper> oh well
#2606 [18:22] <Scott> <Risugami> if for some reason there are 0 results, send them here
#2607 [18:23] <Insadesu> I got no help there.
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#2609 [18:24] * Kealper doesn't care enough to google for people if they can't follow instructions on a mod in the first place
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#2612 [18:27] <patrik7> I'm getting a black screen when I open "single player" and "create world"
#2613 [18:28] <patrik7> how do you fix it?
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#2615 [18:29] <VoxelHead> so, like, mmm Mcirc_988191
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#2617 [18:38] <gcm> can someone help me my minecraft goes to a black screen when i start the game
#2618 [18:38] <Calinou> eh, #risucraft is shit Insadesu
#2619 [18:38] <gcm> can someone help me
#2620 [18:39] <Calinou> gcm: what version of java do you use
#2621 [18:39] <Calinou> what version of minecraft do you use, what is your operating system
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#2623 [18:39] <gcm> the free java
#2624 [18:39] <Cele91> hi all
#2625 [18:39] <gcm> windows 7
#2626 [18:39] <VoxelHead> :-)
#2627 [18:39] <Calinou> don't use java 7, first
#2628 [18:39] <Calinou> you should use java 6 update 26 or update 27
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#2630 [18:40] <Cele91> I can ask?+
#2631 [18:40] <gcm> i download clay soliders and it dint load
#2632 [18:40] <gcm> im gunna try downloading java again thanks
#2633 [18:41] <Fangedgameer> I cant play minecraft classic
#2634 [18:41] <Cele91> I can ask?
#2635 [18:41] <RobinJ24> Yes..
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#2637 [18:41] <Cele91> from a two days I can not connect at stake. The error I am viewing is: Account not premium.
#2638 [18:42] <Calinou> remove META-INF folder
#2639 [18:42] <Calinou> install ModLoader, too, gcm
#2640 [18:42] <Calinou> he left
#2641 [18:42] <Calinou> >_>
#2642 [18:42] <Calinou> Cele91: check paypal transactions
#2643 [18:42] <Vectornaut> Hey, who do you contact if you're having problems buying Minecraft and you think it's charging your card multiple times?
#2644 [18:42] <RobinJ24> Cele91: What is your username?
#2645 [18:43] <Cele91> Cele91
#2646 [18:43] <RobinJ24> !paid Cele91
#2647 [18:43] <RobinJ24> Cele91 Did you buy a gift code?
#2648 [18:43] <Vectornaut> what about me? Koboldminer. did I pay for it?
#2649 [18:43] <Cele91> worked three days ago
#2650 [18:43] <Calinou> did you bought indie bundle?
#2651 [18:43] <Calinou> have you*
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#2653 [18:44] <RobinJ24> Woohoo
#2654 [18:44] <VoxelHead> aw... your little robot toy is broken
#2655 [18:44] <Vectornaut> what's the indie bundle?
#2656 [18:45] <RobinJ24> I'm guessing it's a indie game bundle thing Indie games in it, and I think it included a trial version of Minecraft
#2657 [18:45] <Cele91> what ?
#2658 [18:45] <RobinJ24> Cele91 How did you buy the game?
#2659 [18:45] <Vectornaut> ah.
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#2661 [18:45] <Cele91> i bought a key 2 mounth ago
#2662 [18:46] <Vectornaut> I just want to purchase the beta, but it keeps giving me grief, and I think it might be charging my card multiple times.
#2663 [18:46] <RobinJ24> Cele91 From minecraft.net or a third party site?
#2664 [18:46] <Vectornaut> from minecraft
#2665 [18:46] <Cele91> third party site
#2666 [18:47] <RobinJ24> That's probably one of the most common problems in this channel...
#2667 [18:47] <RobinJ24> Don't buy codes from a third party site
#2668 [18:47] <Cele91> ...
#2669 [18:47] <RobinJ24> They will stop working
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#2671 [18:47] <Cele91> worked for more than a month
#2672 [18:47] <RobinJ24> Yes, it works for a one/few months and then it stops working
#2673 [18:48] <RobinJ24> The only thing you can do is contact the store and ask for a refund
#2674 [18:48] <Vectornaut> what about from minecraft.net. I tried to buy a code, but it said my bank stopped it. Then, when I tried to back out, it said it approved my purchase!
#2675 [18:48] <Vectornaut> How do I contact the store?
#2676 [18:48] <Cele91> so now I'm screwed?
#2677 [18:48] <RobinJ24> Vectornaut You're buying a gift code?
#2678 [18:48] <Cele91> still no
#2679 [18:48] <RobinJ24> Cele91: It depends on if the store will give you a refund
#2680 [18:48] <Vectornaut> no, I'm trying to buy the beta of Minecraft for myself
#2681 [18:49] <RobinJ24> You bought it and you're not premium yet?
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#2683 [18:49] <Cele91> now yes
#2684 [18:49] <Cele91> but 3 days ago no
#2685 [18:49] <Vectornaut> Well, it said my bank stopped the transaction. But, when I returned to merchant, it said my purchase was complete. I've waited the hour or so, but nothing's happened
#2686 [18:50] <RobinJ24> What's your minecraft username?
#2687 [18:50] <Vectornaut> Vectornaut
#2688 [18:50] <RobinJ24> !paid Vectornaut
#2689 [18:50] <Vectornaut> wait, my bad, it's Koboldminer
#2690 [18:50] <Vectornaut> Vectornaut's something different
#2691 [18:50] <RobinJ24> !paid Koboldminer
#2692 [18:51] <RobinJ24> Wait a few more hours
#2693 [18:51] <RobinJ24> It might take a while (if your payment was accepted)
#2694 [18:51] <MuumiJumala> !paid MuumiJumala
#2695 [18:51] <Vectornaut> ok, I just don't want it to charge it multiple times
#2696 [18:51] <MuumiJumala> yay.
#2697 [18:51] <Vectornaut> my card I mean
#2698 [18:51] <RobinJ24> Sometimes it takes a few hours
#2699 [18:52] <Vectornaut> ok then, that's all I need to know. thanks for the help.
#2700 [18:53] <RobinJ24> I'm starting to get better at this helping thing
#2701 [18:53] <RobinJ24> Maybe I will be a pro in a year
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#2704 [18:54] <Noxxoptpomus> anyone know what ?powertools does?
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#2707 [19:00] <umbridge> Where are the system requierments?
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#2709 [19:00] <Archaia> sooo
#2710 [19:00] <RobinJ24> umbridge System requirements for Minecraft?
#2711 [19:00] <Archaia> i need help?
#2712 [19:01] <RobinJ24> lol..
#2713 [19:01] <RobinJ24> Ask
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#2715 [19:01] <Archaia> im trying to install aether mod for minecraft, and when i click the minecraft folder in the bin folder it just makes that noise that happens when something cant be done...
#2716 [19:02] <RobinJ24> ?? mods
#2717 [19:02] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#2718 [19:02] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2719 [19:02] <Archaia> no, im doing it for my single player servers
#2720 [19:02] <Archaia> server*
#2721 [19:03] <Archaia> its just that i cant open the minecraft folder in my bin folder and i dont know why
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#2723 [19:03] <RobinJ24> You can't open minecraft.jar?
#2724 [19:03] <Archaia> the minecraft folder in bin, yeah
#2725 [19:03] <RobinJ24> Get winrar
#2726 [19:03] <Archaia> i have it
#2727 [19:04] <RobinJ24> Did you right click and choose Open with WinRAR?
#2728 [19:04] <TheNytangel> ??< win/dxdiag
#2729 [19:04] <Archaia> ill try that
#2730 [19:04] <Archaia> lol thanks, it worked
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#2734 [19:08] <Griffrez> Hello
#2735 [19:09] <RobinJ24> Hi
#2736 [19:09] <mitch> hi
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#2739 [19:11] <Zwirc> hi, i cant figure out how to play minecraft behind proxy :(
#2740 [19:12] <Griffrez> Why do you want to play Minecraft behind a proxy?
#2741 [19:13] <Griffrez> Anyone here that is expert in troubleshooting could help me this? http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/interaction_lag_spikes
#2742 [19:13] <VoxelHead> nein
#2743 [19:14] <Griffrez> Aren't you a bot?
#2744 [19:14] <RobinJ24> He wants to be a human
#2745 [19:18] <Zwirc> Griffrez, its nothing bethert to do :P
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#2747 [19:21] <Scott> almostroot DopeGhoti GreyVulpine Wug (and helpers) register here: http://minecraftirc.net/
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#2749 [19:21] <benana> how do i fix the open gl
#2750 [19:21] <Zwirc> tried to play by web and with .bat proxy
#2751 [19:21] <Zwirc> but i cant
#2752 [19:22] <McManus4> Hey, my computer was having probems and i done a system restore, but everytime i log into minecraft there is just a black screen. Any idea whats wrong?
#2753 [19:22] <RobinJ24> Scott does helpers include me? O.o or "official" helpers?
#2754 [19:23] <Scott> You may register if you wish but you won't get special access. :P
#2755 [19:23] <Scott> Only people with @ or + beside their name.
#2756 [19:23] <RobinJ24> meh I'll register
#2757 [19:23] <RobinJ24> I always register on Minecraft related stuff
#2758 [19:24] <VoxelHead> mmm mcmanus4
#2759 [19:25] <RobinJ24> Hopefully I'll get voice status someday if I ever become pro at helping
#2760 [19:25] <RobinJ24> lol
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#2762 [19:27] <Flail77> Hey
#2763 [19:28] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ),:
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#2766 [19:30] <_none_> hello?
#2767 [19:31] <_none_> HELLO?
#2768 [19:31] <_none_> gay
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#2770 [19:33] <Eleven> can i get some help?
#2771 [19:33] <Eleven> ineed help
#2772 [19:34] <Eleven> 8===D
#2773 [19:34] * guest-0-76421 [guest-0-76421@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2774 [19:34] <Eleven> HELP
#2775 [19:35] * mib_kmw5u7 [mib_kmw5u7@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2776 [19:36] <Eleven> dick
#2777 [19:36] <mib_kmw5u7> hi guys
#2778 [19:36] <Eleven> i need el
#2779 [19:36] <Eleven> i need help
#2780 [19:36] <mib_kmw5u7> can i have some help please if possible?
#2781 [19:37] <Eleven> i gues i can
#2782 [19:37] <Eleven> wat do u need?
#2783 [19:37] <guest-0-76421> Dunno if I can help, but I'll give it a look, what's the problem?
#2784 [19:37] <Eleven> wats java do i need to run my mc
#2785 [19:37] <mib_kmw5u7> i have purchased the game and downloaded Minecraft_Server.exe (802 KB) how do i log on to it to play the server
#2786 [19:38] <guest-0-76421> Ok frst the Java thing.
#2787 [19:38] <guest-0-76421> 11 what windows does your computer use?
#2788 [19:38] <Eleven> XP
#2789 [19:39] <Eleven> and u downloaded the wrong thing you eed the one under windows
#2790 [19:40] <Eleven> i use windows XP
#2791 [19:40] <Eleven> HELLO?
#2792 [19:40] * VoxelHead is blown away by force of eleven's statement
#2792 [19:41] <guest-0-76421> Go to start-control panel-add and remove programs, remove the wrong kind of Java, and go to www.java.com get the 32 bit version called version 6 update 27
#2793 [19:41] <Eleven> ok
#2794 [19:41] <guest-0-76421> And relax, fixing things takes time.
#2795 [19:41] <guest-0-76421> Now lemme look up about the server thing, I've only played single player...
#2796 [19:41] <mib_kmw5u7> :-)
#2797 [19:41] <VoxelHead> =]
#2798 [19:42] <Eleven> ok and that other person mib_kmw5u7 downloaded the server set up not the launcher
#2799 [19:42] <mib_kmw5u7> thank you.
#2800 [19:42] <Eleven> is it working for u?
#2801 [19:42] <mib_kmw5u7> i have both. i want to host the server
#2802 [19:44] <mib_kmw5u7> minecraqft.exe is working just right 11 for me. the server is turned on and running i just need to know what details to put in the multi player section to log on to the server i guess
#2803 [19:45] <guest-0-76421> I do remember someone once posted in a bulletin about using the word loaclhost instead of your PC's IP address for the. Not sure if the client for the server needs to be running along with a copy of the game too.
#2804 [19:47] <Eleven> oh go to minecraft.net and put ur mouse over game and click how to play then click FAQ and then it will have some options click technical and click setting up a server and there u go :)
#2805 [19:47] <mib_kmw5u7> im not sure. i would asume you need the game as its got a sectionn to set the server your logging on to in it.
#2806 [19:47] <Eleven> do wat i said it will help
#2807 [19:49] <mib_kmw5u7> ty im reading it as we speak 11
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#2810 [19:51] <mib_5p6e7z> Help so much lag i can barely move
#2811 [19:51] <Eleven> under options do u have fancy on?
#2812 [19:51] <mib_5p6e7z> no
#2813 [19:51] <Eleven> is it on fast?
#2814 [19:52] <mib_5p6e7z> yes
#2815 [19:52] <Eleven> do u have it on normal veiw distance?
#2816 [19:52] <mib_5p6e7z> yes
#2817 [19:53] <Eleven> is veiw bobbing on?
#2818 [19:53] <mib_5p6e7z> no
#2819 [19:53] <Eleven> is oe of the settngs on on balenced or wat?
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#2821 [19:54] <mib_5p6e7z> ???
#2822 [19:54] <Eleven> is one of the settings on balenced?
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#2824 [19:55] <mib_5p6e7z> yes
#2825 [19:55] <Eleven> click it on max fps
#2826 [19:56] <Eleven> have u done it yet?
#2827 [19:57] <mib_5p6e7z> yes still really laggy
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#2829 [19:57] <Jiggler> Is there a mod out there that lets you light netherock onfire with redstone
#2830 [19:57] <Eleven> have u any mods?
#2831 [19:57] <mib_5p6e7z> no i have only played for 3 hours
#2832 [19:57] <Eleven> no i dont think so jiggler
#2833 [19:58] <Jiggler> i know there is a Bukkit
#2834 [19:58] <Jiggler> mod for it
#2835 [19:58] <Jiggler> but not for SP
#2836 [19:59] <Eleven> well their is a mod called optifog or optimine and it really ups ur fps look it up on google and back up ur save files and follow the steps proided
#2837 [19:59] <Eleven> mib_5p6e7z
#2838 [20:01] <Eleven> provided*
#2839 [20:03] <SinZ> People <3 going here for mod support, dont they...
#2840 [20:05] <Aphexan> Good evening again :D Anyone has any good tips on how to make "end-stations" with powered rail? Ive been browsing the wiki a bit and tested a few things but i cant figure it out..
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#2842 [20:06] <Aphexan> (unless this channel is just for more.. bugrelated issues of course)
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#2844 [20:09] <Aphexan> Release the redstonenerds
#2845 [20:16] <SinZ> I wanna kill every single person that rages about 1.8 "Killing" their servers
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#2848 [20:23] <arctichenry> Hi there, I need some help
#2849 [20:23] <Aphexan> SinZ, I'll do it for you if you help me with my railissues ;)
#2850 [20:23] <arctichenry> I am wondering if minecraft verson 1.8.1 will work on a mac verson 10.4.11
#2851 [20:23] <arctichenry> or am I screwed?
#2852 [20:24] <SinZ> There is a mod that lets it work
#2853 [20:24] <arctichenry> can you send me a link to it?
#2854 [20:24] <arctichenry> dont tell me, optivfine?
#2855 [20:24] <arctichenry> or somthing like it?
#2856 [20:26] <arctichenry> anyone there?
#2857 [20:26] <Aphexan> grargh i hate powered rails now >.<
#2858 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> You may need to wait for minecraft 1.9 for it to work
#2859 [20:27] <arctichenry> darn, do you know if it will work with a mac verson 10.4.11?
#2860 [20:27] <arctichenry> or no?
#2861 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> No, but it fixes the issue that minecraft had with 10.5.8, namely the poor OpenGL support that came with 10.5.8
#2862 [20:28] <arctichenry> it wont work with a 10.4.11?
#2863 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> I don't know
#2864 [20:28] <arctichenry> darn
#2865 [20:28] <arctichenry> when is 1.9 due to release? Or do you know?
#2866 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> There's no ETA on that
#2867 [20:29] <arctichenry> darn, does the prerealese have the same support?
#2868 [20:29] <arctichenry> I mean does the prerealese fix MC for 10.5?
#2869 [20:30] <arctichenry> nvm, ill find it for myself, thanks though
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#2871 [20:33] <Aphexan> SO, if I want to have a station at the end of a single lane railtrack where i can come from the other end and stop there, and later get in and launch, how would i do that? I've been messing with these powerrails for too long now, gah
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#2874 [20:36] <VoxelHead> i like them =D
#2875 [20:36] <Aphexan> yeah... so how do I solve this then? :)
#2876 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Ever try the block at the end of the rail, with the powered rail under it, then wire a button to power the rail?
#2877 [20:39] <Aphexan> you mean run the rail "into" a block with the final block being a powered rail, and a button to that? If so, yeah sort of. problem is when the cart crashes into the block it reverses, wich makes the Prail send it off in the opposite direction again making it more of a "directionreverter" than a stop :/
#2878 [20:39] <Aphexan> final rail*
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#2880 [20:40] <Aphexan> (I mean after I leave the "station" the lever and the rail stays powered)
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#2882 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> The powered rail should be "off" by default
#2883 [20:41] <Scott> oh hi GreyVulpine
#2884 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> \o
#2885 [20:42] <Aphexan> Yeah it is, but if I wire a button to it and switch it to on its powered and since i leave the station by switching it, it stays on
#2886 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> It.. stays on? Buttons are momentary.
#2887 [20:42] <Aphexan> so when i return im propelled in the opposite direction again after colliding with the endblock. :/
#2888 [20:43] <Aphexan> oh wait... hahahahaha
#2889 [20:43] <VoxelHead> wave of doom
#2890 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead, shut up
#2891 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> dang bot
#2892 [20:43] <Aphexan> oh lord. Lol. Now i see why nothing has worked so far, hahha :D
#2893 [20:43] * VoxelHead stamps foot
#2893 [20:43] <VoxelHead> *sulk*
#2894 [20:43] <Aphexan> Have been using levers all night.. *facepalm*
#2895 [20:43] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2895 [20:43] <Aphexan> man im way too tired for this, hehehe
#2896 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Totally understand. Was a big redstone fanatic back in 1.3-1.6
#2897 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Haven't done much of it lately though.
#2898 [20:44] <Aphexan> ah ok.. I dont fiddle too much with it either, just trying to build a good "from A to B in acceptable time"-system :)
#2899 [20:45] <Aphexan> Thanks a lot for the help, im gonna dive in there again!
#2900 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#2901 [20:45] <Scott> GreyVulpine: http://minecraftirc.net/ - If you register I can give you access to everything. Kealper and Thrae wanted a forum to put notes and such for in here.
#2902 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Didn't I already regist... oh wait, that was for another thing
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#2904 [20:49] * GreyVulpine shakes fist at password complexity rule.
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#2907 [20:56] <Scott> GreyVulpine: donee
#2908 [20:56] <Scott> You can delete my rules post if you want and post it yourself but you should be able to modify it.
#2909 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Nah, don't need to.
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#2911 [20:59] <Archaia> I re-downloaded my whole minecraft launcher and i still get a black screen
#2912 [21:00] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go =O
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#2914 [21:00] <Archaia> Anyone here?
#2915 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Archaia - Has it worked before?
#2916 [21:00] <Archaia> Yes
#2917 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Archaia - Operating system?
#2918 [21:01] <Archaia> Windows
#2919 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> ??> Archaia win/reinst
#2920 [21:01] <VoxelHead> Archaia: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2921 [21:01] <VoxelHead> Archaia: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2922 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#2923 [21:01] <Archaia> ok
#2924 [21:03] <Archaia> I think it may be working
#2925 [21:03] <Archaia> I think its loading
#2926 [21:04] * GreyVulpine snrks
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#2928 [21:12] <frogonia> hey guys
#2929 [21:12] <TheNoodle> Hey frogonia.
#2930 [21:12] <frogonia> i need help, can you help me
#2931 [21:12] <TheNoodle> And GreyVulpine, you are an amazing person, stop always being here >.>
#2932 [21:13] <frogonia> i keep on starting minecraft and after i login and it is about to run, the screen is just black? what should i do?
#2933 [21:14] <TheNoodle> Have you installed any mods or texture packs?
#2934 [21:15] <frogonia> no but i just installed java and all on this computer to play on one of the servers and all, but as soon as it said would you like to update, i clicked it nd then the screen went black after it updated and i keep on trying and it doesnt work
#2935 [21:16] <frogonia> like how it says the updates
#2936 [21:16] <frogonia> do you know what the problem is?
#2937 [21:16] <TheNoodle> What operating system are you using?
#2938 [21:17] <frogonia> windows
#2939 [21:17] <TheNoodle> ??> frogonia win/dxdiag
#2940 [21:17] <VoxelHead> frogonia: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2941 [21:18] <VoxelHead> frogonia: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2943 [21:18] <gamakichi> I have a error runing the game
#2944 [21:18] <gamakichi> how I can repair it
#2945 [21:18] <TheNoodle> Paste the error here: http://pastebin.com
#2946 [21:19] <gamakichi> thanks
#2947 [21:19] <TheNoodle> ...wat.
#2948 [21:20] * TheNoodle shrugs.
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#2950 [21:23] * TheNoodle pokes Top_mau5 and TheBoss
#2950 [21:23] <TheNoodle> nothing to see here.
#2951 [21:23] <Top_mau5> >_>
#2952 [21:23] <Kealper> lol
#2953 [21:24] <TheBoss> :O wug >_>
#2954 [21:24] <TheNoodle> wug is everwhere.
#2955 [21:24] <TheNoodle> *everywhere
#2956 [21:24] * TheBoss dislikes wug
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#2958 [21:26] <VoxelHead> Bye TheBoss.
#2959 [21:27] <Scott> GreyVulpine, what do you think about creating an FAQ forum?
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#2961 [21:28] <Scott> s/an/a
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#2966 [21:36] <portakalo> is there someone that can help with compatibility issues?
#2967 [21:36] <portakalo> anyone?
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#2970 [21:39] <mib_tzr68d> hello
#2971 [21:39] <Silent_Samurai> Sup.
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#2973 [21:40] <mib_tzr68d> okay so i bought minecraft and did the download and run thing and now it say "downloading packages" but the bar isn moving at all :?
#2974 [21:41] <mib_tzr68d> can you help ?
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#2976 [21:41] <Silent_Samurai> What happens if you play the in browser version?
#2977 [21:42] <mib_tzr68d> it dose the same
#2978 [21:42] <tj> hey i t says purchased game but doesnt say it on profile plz help
#2979 [21:43] <tj> it also says this may take an hour but its been about 2
#2980 [21:43] <Silent_Samurai> Wtf.
#2981 [21:43] * Silent_Samurai actually hates these mibs and webchats.
#2981 [21:45] <tj> is there any 1 in here to help me?
#2982 [21:49] * falkner [falkner@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2983 [21:49] <falkner> helo
#2984 [21:49] <falkner> i evenly cnt startly game
#2985 [21:49] <tj> is there any1 help me
#2986 [21:50] <falkner> help????????????????????????????????????????
#2987 [21:51] <Silent_Samurai> When you ask a proper question that actaully has some information in, we MAY help.
#2988 [21:51] <falkner> FAK U VAXELHED!
#2989 [21:51] <falkner> U EVENLY IDIOOT
#2990 [21:52] <Silent_Samurai> Calm down.
#2991 [21:52] <falkner> BLACKSKREEN
#2992 [21:52] <Aphexan> Haha, charming.
#2993 [21:52] <falkner> OK
#2994 [21:52] <falkner> aphexan u r feg
#2995 [21:52] <Silent_Samurai> falkner, And your a retarded moron who should really get of the internet.
#2996 [21:53] <Aphexan> falkner, careful what you wish for, I might be under your bed tonight.
#2997 [21:53] * mau5ie [mau5ie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2998 [21:53] <falkner> silent u r retrd lern englik
#2999 [21:53] <falkner> it is u r
#3000 [21:53] <falkner> not
#3001 [21:53] <falkner> ur
#3002 [21:53] <mau5ie> Wrong.
#3003 [21:53] <mau5ie> It's "you are". :P
#3004 [21:53] <Silent_Samurai> Wtf is going on right now?
#3005 [21:53] * Silent_Samurai is so confused.
#3005 [21:53] <mau5ie> I dunno.
#3006 [21:53] <mau5ie> lol
#3007 [21:54] <falkner> u r all evenly idioots
#3008 [21:54] <Silent_Samurai> mau5ie, I'll send you what you missed.
#3009 [21:54] <falkner> fak u
#3010 [21:54] <falkner> all of u
#3011 [21:54] <Aphexan> falkner, do you have some kind of serious braindamage or are you just trying to troll?
#3012 [21:54] <mau5ie> Sure.
#3013 [21:54] <Silent_Samurai> mau5ie, http://pastebin.com/Q1y6h8gG
#3014 [21:54] <falkner> wat
#3015 [21:54] <falkner> i r egypt
#3016 [21:54] <mau5ie> falkner. At least we can spell properly. :|
#3017 [21:55] <mau5ie> You're Egypt? That's a pretty heavy claim. O_o
#3018 [21:55] <falkner> no u cnt
#3019 [21:55] * mib_cw9qyh [mib_cw9qyh@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3020 [21:55] <Silent_Samurai> Being from another country does not make you better then others.
#3021 [21:55] <falkner> u just america
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#3023 [21:55] <falkner> fak u
#3024 [21:55] <Silent_Samurai> I'm alright thank you very much.
#3025 [21:55] <Aphexan> So, if they are "just" american, and you are Great And Awesome Egyptian... How come you have to ask for help then?
#3026 [21:56] <mau5ie> LOL
#3027 [21:56] <falkner> NO!
#3028 [21:56] <falkner> i r blackskren minekraft
#3029 [21:56] <Dreon> why does my minecraft tell me ca'nt connect to minecraft.net and says not downloaded although i did download it!
#3030 [21:56] <falkner> i pirate it
#3031 [21:56] <falkner> it no work
#3032 [21:56] <falkner> y?
#3033 [21:56] <Silent_Samurai> And anyway, I have never even been to America.
#3034 [21:56] <Aphexan> Neither have I, just a swede..
#3035 [21:56] <Silent_Samurai> I'm a Lithuanian living in Australia :P
#3036 [21:57] <Silent_Samurai> Scott, Can you do something about this idiot?
#3037 [21:57] <falkner> fak u ev enly all of u
#3038 [21:57] <Aphexan> multiculturality, GO! :D
#3039 [21:57] <falkner> FAK U!!!!!!!!!!!!
#3040 [21:57] * VoxelHead is blown off feet by force of falkner's statement
#3040 [21:57] * Scott kicked falkner from #minecrafthelp (Reason: alkner :Buy the game and come back.)
#3041 [21:57] <mau5ie> lmao
#3042 [21:57] <mau5ie> LOL
#3043 [21:57] <Silent_Samurai> XD
#3044 [21:57] <Aphexan> oh man that made my night
#3045 [21:57] <Kealper> damn, Scott you kicked him before i got my message out
#3046 [21:57] <Silent_Samurai> And what was that message?
#3047 [21:57] * Silent_Samurai saves this conversation.
#3047 [21:57] <Kealper> wasn't anything special
#3048 [21:57] <mau5ie> Silent_Samurai. Can you grab me a complete log? xD
#3049 [21:58] <mau5ie> I wanna save that.
#3050 [21:58] <Kealper> i'm 99.997% sure that guy was just a troll
#3051 [21:58] <Aphexan> All hail the graet egpyt, FAK U!!!! =D=D
#3052 [21:58] <Kealper> there is no way someone is that dumb
#3053 [21:58] <mau5ie> i r nt haling eygtp fak u
#3054 [21:59] <Aphexan> Have to agree with Kealper tho.. but still.. Much more fun to pretend he really was that dumb. ^^
#3055 [21:59] <mau5ie> loll
#3056 [21:59] <Silent_Samurai> mau5ie, http://pastebin.com/8kvUfK6n
#3057 [21:59] <mau5ie> Actually, it was a bit depressing. :<
#3058 [21:59] <mau5ie> Thanks, Silent_Samurai.
#3059 [21:59] <Scott> I can't do anything in here without getting Pm'd.
#3060 [21:59] * Silent_Samurai shall brb.
#3060 [22:00] <Scott> I don't even bother telling them not to PM me anymore. :(
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#3062 [22:00] <Scott> Kealper: You are not conducive to my desired mood.
#3063 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Things alright in here?
#3064 [22:00] <mau5ie> Ignore the PMs?
#3065 [22:00] <Dreon> well sorry scott you were the first one i looked at
#3066 [22:00] <Kealper> Scott: ok :<
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#3068 [22:00] <Scott> GreyVulpine: Yep, just some troll. lol.
#3069 [22:00] <Dreon> bur can you answer my question??
#3070 [22:01] <Scott> mau5ie: I do. It doesn't it make it less annoying though.
#3071 [22:01] <Scott> And bad form. :s
#3072 [22:01] <Dreon> Hey, Scott can you answer my question??
#3073 [22:01] <mau5ie> Heh. True. :<
#3074 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Dreon - What question would that be?
#3075 [22:02] <Aphexan> yeah so anyway sleepytimes yes. Good night everybody!
#3076 [22:02] * GreyVulpine waves
#3076 [22:02] <Dreon> why does my minecraft say can't conect to minecraft.net and i don't have the game downloaded but i do! it says this at thelogin page even if i click try again it does the same thing
#3077 [22:02] <Scott> This shall be my late night snack: http://ustreetgirl.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/strawberry-waffle.jpg
#3078 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Dreon - What you downloaded was the launcher. It is not the actual game. To get the actual game files, you need to be able to log in successfully at least one
#3079 [22:03] <Kealper> :o
#3080 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> once*
#3081 [22:03] <VoxelHead> well slap my ass and call me susan
#3082 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Dreon - What operating system are you on?
#3083 [22:03] <Dreon> what do you mean by operaing system?? like windows?
#3084 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3085 [22:03] <Dreon> i' on windows
#3086 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Dreon - Does your windows username happen to contain a ! mark in it?
#3087 [22:04] <Scott> VoxelHead is hanging out with the wrong crowd again. :(
#3088 [22:04] <Dreon> it did yes
#3089 [22:04] <Dreon> but i changed the name
#3090 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Dreon - That would be why
#3091 [22:04] <Scott> Changing the name doesn't change your users folder name.
#3092 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Changing the name doesn't change the folder path in which your user profile is
#3093 [22:04] <Dreon> do you have an idea on how to change all that??
#3094 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> You have one of two options, either make a new user account that doesn't have a ! in it, or you can use our workaround
#3095 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> ??> Dreon !
#3096 [22:05] <Scott> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/userpath.htm
#3097 [22:05] <VoxelHead> Dreon: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#3098 [22:05] <VoxelHead> Dreon: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
#3099 [22:05] <Scott> You can rename it too.
#3100 [22:05] <Dreon> ok
#3101 [22:05] <Scott> But you have to do it manually and play with the registry which isn't exactly safe.
#3102 [22:05] <Dreon> so do i use that fist address or the second one??
#3103 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Eeep
#3104 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Dreon - I'd recommend: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe
#3105 [22:06] <VoxelHead> yay... it burns in a vagina
#3106 [22:06] <Dreon> ok
#3107 [22:06] <Scott> ....
#3108 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> ...
#3109 [22:06] <Kealper> wat.
#3110 [22:06] <Scott> VoxelHead, shut up
#3111 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti!
#3112 [22:06] <VoxelHead> Don't wanna!|But since you asked so nicel.
#3113 [22:06] * GreyVulpine stabs DopeGhoti
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#3114 [22:09] <Dreon> brb gonna try this
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#3116 [22:10] <Ryladine> lol voxel has typo's :)
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#3119 [22:19] <SinZ> `mcping smp.mca.d3s.co:32767
#3120 [22:19] <SinZBot> D3 SMP (1/20)
#3121 [22:20] <SinZ> ok, bots still running
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#3124 [22:22] <SmartM0nk3y> hi all i have a few questions about starting a server
#3125 [22:23] <SmartM0nk3y> i am runing OS X and have all the required programs
#3126 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> And the question(s) would be.
#3127 [22:25] <SmartM0nk3y> the problem im having is setting up a LAN server for my friend and i to play on. my sonicwall TZ-190 is incompatible with port map so i cant put it online.... thats fine is there a way that i can do it over my wi-fi network?
#3128 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Well, if it's just a local server, you don't need to do port forwarding
#3129 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Is anybody outside the network going to join?
#3130 [22:27] <SmartM0nk3y> i tried setting up a computer to computer network from my mac and having him join it the turning online mode to false and he was able to connect to my server but when i connected it bummped him and told him he connected from a difrent location.... is that because we would have the same ip?
#3131 [22:27] <SmartM0nk3y> no
#3132 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> No, it's because the client was not hooked up to the internet, and didn't authenticate his username to the minecraft auth server
#3133 [22:29] <SmartM0nk3y> but because online mode was false that shouldent matter right?
#3134 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> No. Because the client didn't actually authenicate to the login server, it's logged in as "Player"
#3135 [22:29] <SmartM0nk3y> ok how can i fix that?
#3136 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> When multiple "Player"s join, it kicks the existing "player" from the server
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#3138 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> As for the client's side, you need to actually have an internet connection to be able to log in
#3139 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> For the server, turning off Online-mode, only means the server doesn't double check the client actually has a valid username
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#3141 [22:31] <Iridium> hi
#3142 [22:31] * GreyVulpine waves
#3142 [22:31] <Iridium> since the people in #minecraft aren't very helpful maybe you guys will be more use
#3143 [22:32] <Iridium> i was wondering if it'd be possible to use pistons to flood my automatic farm
#3144 [22:32] <Iridium> i'm using this design http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnxFXsEqI5A
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#3146 [22:33] <SmartM0nk3y> sorry bout that internet freaked
#3147 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - There is, I've got a design that does that
#3148 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Looking at that video right now..
#3149 [22:34] <Iridium> great, thanks
#3150 [22:35] <SmartM0nk3y> so is there a way to have a game with him if my firewall sucks like it does?
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#3152 [22:35] <blubber77> hi
#3153 [22:36] <blubber77> im gonna get straight to the point
#3154 [22:36] <blubber77> my mc isnt working
#3155 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> SmartM0nk3y - I don't know what your network setup is. As long as the client has a connection to the internet, you should be able to play together
#3156 [22:36] <blubber77> and i need the preset data
#3157 [22:36] <blubber77> i have a windows 7
#3158 [22:36] <blubber77> and...
#3159 [22:36] <Iridium> in what way isn't it working?
#3160 [22:36] <blubber77> well i was trying to install a texture pack and it wasnt working
#3161 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Should work, but that design kinda sucks.
#3162 [22:37] <blubber77> but i just need the preset data
#3163 [22:37] <SmartM0nk3y> well i cant make a server online or just local host that he can connect to
#3164 [22:37] <Iridium> GreyVulpine, could you direct me to a better one?
#3165 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> SmartM0nk3y - Does the server running the client have a connection to the internet?
#3166 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> er, computer running the clientr
#3167 [22:37] <SmartM0nk3y> yes
#3168 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Then, is he logging in with his own account?
#3169 [22:38] <blubber77> can i just have the preset data please
#3170 [22:38] <SmartM0nk3y> yes
#3171 [22:38] <blubber77> k thx
#3172 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> blubber77 - What's a 'preset' data?
#3173 [22:38] <blubber77> the original mc files
#3174 [22:38] <blubber77> its resets stuff
#3175 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> blubber77 - what operating system are you on?
#3176 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> SmartM0nk3y - Everybody logging in has their own account, right?
#3177 [22:38] <blubber77> say u try to install a prerelease and i messes up
#3178 [22:38] <SmartM0nk3y> correct
#3179 [22:38] <blubber77> u might want the preset data
#3180 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> blubber77 - What operating system are you on?
#3181 [22:39] <blubber77> windows7
#3182 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> ??> blubber77 win/reinst
#3183 [22:39] * guest-503275-59642 [guest-503275-59642@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3184 [22:39] <VoxelHead> blubber77: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3185 [22:39] <VoxelHead> blubber77: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3186 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> SmartM0nk3y - What happens when they connect again?
#3187 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> SmartM0nk3y - Do you have a server log?
#3188 [22:40] <SmartM0nk3y> they cant
#3189 [22:40] <SmartM0nk3y> yes
#3190 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> SmartM0nk3y - Could you pastebin.com it?
#3191 [22:40] <SmartM0nk3y> sure
#3192 [22:42] <SmartM0nk3y> http://pastebin.com/5szJH4Uu
#3193 [22:43] <blubber77> how do i tell if im win or reinst
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#3195 [22:44] <Iridium> i believe reinst is short for reinstall
#3196 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> blubber77 - Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#3197 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> ??> blubber77 win/reinst
#3198 [22:44] <VoxelHead> blubber77: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3199 [22:44] <VoxelHead> blubber77: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3200 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> SmartM0nk3y - Leave server-ip in server.properties blank
#3201 [22:44] <blubber77> ok well i did that. thx
#3202 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> It isn't exactly what you think it is
#3203 [22:47] <guest-503275-59642> mmm can i get a little help with this? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/697808-game-crashes-with-a-saving-chunks-error/
#3204 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> For mods, try #risucraft
#3205 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> You've got a problem with one or more mods being incompatible
#3206 [22:49] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: some bad news about #risucraft
#3207 [22:49] <guest-503275-59642> ok ill try asking there
#3208 [22:49] <Kealper> i guess they've started not helping with that sort of stuff unless there is absolutely nothing on Google about it already :/
#3209 [22:52] * GreyVulpine nods
#3209 [22:52] <Kealper> not sure how they feel about mod incompatibility help though...
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#3211 [22:54] <mortisha> my minecraft won't update to 1.8
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#3213 [22:55] <bols> helo
#3214 [22:55] <bols> i blaksren
#3215 [22:55] <bols> help
#3216 [22:55] <bols> i evenly cnt start game
#3217 [22:58] <Kealper> wait...
#3218 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> O.o
#3219 [22:59] <Kealper> i'm 95% sure that datacenter has atleast one proxy on it
#3220 [23:00] <Kealper> i've seen random trolls with horrid spelling use webchat or mibbit off a kimsufi.com host before, and that site is a server host
#3221 [23:00] <Kealper> possibly the same person?
#3222 [23:01] <Wug> * You have joined too many channels
#3223 [23:02] <Kealper> D:
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#3225 [23:02] <Wug> ffffuuuuuu
#3226 [23:02] <tj> im haveing trouble buying game
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#3228 [23:03] <Wug> call your bank or credit card company and make sure they arent blocking the transaction
#3229 [23:03] <Wug> lots of places do that to protect their customers
#3230 [23:07] <Iridium> denying minecraft = protecting customers? :S
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#3232 [23:08] <Wug> well, theres no way to tell that it isnt some overseas scam
#3233 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft, produced by Mojang, who is located in Sweden
#3234 [23:09] <Iridium> ah yes, well when you put it like that :p
#3235 [23:10] <Iridium> so GreyVulpine... you said earlier that design of farm was bad
#3236 [23:10] <Iridium> you couldn't direct me to a better one, could you?
#3237 [23:12] <Iridium> or anybody else direct me to a good automatic farm?
#3238 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> I usually use my own, but don't have a blueprint anywhere
#3239 [23:12] <Iridium> i see
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#3241 [23:14] <Iridium> if you aren't busy could you log into my server and build one for me?
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#3244 [23:18] <Iridium> please
#3245 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> ip?
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#3247 [23:19] <Iridium> 77.98.245.89:50500
#3248 [23:20] <ballsdeap> okay ima paste what came up when i tried to play
#3249 [23:20] <ballsdeap> java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
#3250 [23:20] <ballsdeap> any help?
#3251 [23:20] <Wug> try force updating
#3252 [23:24] <SmartM0nk3y> greyvulpine what does he enter? localhost?
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#3257 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> SmartM0nk3y - Only if he's entering the server on the same computer as the client
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#3260 [23:34] <Ultranerder> hello all
#3261 [23:34] <VoxelHead> -_-
#3262 [23:34] <Luigi> hi ppl
#3263 [23:35] <Ultranerder> I have a question regarding Mincraft accounts
#3264 [23:35] <Luigi> im new
#3265 [23:35] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE new? feel these nipples!
#3266 [23:35] <Luigi> ewwwwwwwwwwww
#3267 [23:35] <Ultranerder> I bought my buddy a gift certificate ... or whatever
#3268 [23:35] <SmartM0nk3y> whats your question
#3269 [23:35] <SmartM0nk3y> ok
#3270 [23:35] <Ultranerder> and he forgot his password
#3271 [23:35] <Luigi> how i play games
#3272 [23:36] <Wug> have him recover it with his email address
#3273 [23:36] <Ultranerder> and doesnt remember what his email address was
#3274 [23:36] <Ultranerder> :S
#3275 [23:36] <SmartM0nk3y> ???
#3276 [23:36] <Luigi> do i have to buy it to play games
#3277 [23:36] <SmartM0nk3y> how many does he have?
#3278 [23:36] <Luigi> hello?
#3279 [23:36] <Luigi> u cant here me
#3280 [23:36] <Ultranerder> well..... .long story... we had created an email server for our guild
#3281 [23:36] <SmartM0nk3y> luigi you dont have to but its worth it
#3282 [23:36] * Wug sighs
#3282 [23:36] <Ultranerder> .... and i dont remember the SMTP address that we used to register
#3283 [23:36] <Luigi> smart wat
#3284 [23:36] <SmartM0nk3y> oh boy
#3285 [23:37] <SmartM0nk3y> did he alredy use the code?
#3286 [23:37] <Wug> doesnt it say the domain the email address is on
#3287 [23:37] <Ultranerder> huh?
#3288 [23:37] <Luigi> huh? u guys u dont listen to me
#3289 [23:37] <Luigi> how i play games
#3290 [23:37] <Wug> Luigi: you have to buy it first.
#3291 [23:37] <Luigi> wat crap
#3292 [23:37] <Wug> you can play classic mode, but beta is better
#3293 [23:38] <Wug> most games cost money
#3294 [23:38] <Wug> this is normal
#3295 [23:38] <Luigi> wat classic mode
#3296 [23:38] <SmartM0nk3y> its only 20 where as any consel games are like 65
#3297 [23:38] <Wug> http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play
#3298 [23:38] <SmartM0nk3y> counsel
#3299 [23:38] <Luigi> ok i totely need help
#3300 [23:38] <Ultranerder> is there any avenue of support that i can email to
#3301 [23:38] <Ultranerder> all i need to know is what email maps to this username
#3302 [23:38] <Ultranerder> and i can recreate the SMTP
#3303 [23:39] <SmartM0nk3y> http://www.minecraft.net/store
#3304 [23:39] <Luigi> ok im
#3305 [23:39] <Luigi> so i have to buy games to play
#3306 [23:39] <SmartM0nk3y> ultrander: read the thing at the top of your windoy
#3307 [23:39] <SmartM0nk3y> window
#3308 [23:39] <SmartM0nk3y> YES
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#3310 [23:39] <Luigi> hey wats star
#3311 [23:39] <Wug> Ultranerder: cant you just check the profile page and guess what it was
#3312 [23:40] <Luigi> \lol
#3313 [23:41] <Ultranerder> Weve tried all of the addresses we THOUGHT it was
#3314 [23:41] <Wug> Luigi: if you dont need something specific, please stop randomly chatting
#3315 [23:41] <SmartM0nk3y> greyviulpine: ok so how can we play?
#3316 [23:41] <Ultranerder> im just curious if there is an official support avenue
#3317 [23:41] <Wug> Ultranerder: is there a client with a saved password somewhere
#3318 [23:41] <Ultranerder> yes
#3319 [23:42] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#3320 [23:42] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#3321 [23:42] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#3322 [23:42] <Ultranerder> but he tried to reset his password (stupidly)
#3323 [23:42] <Luigi> huh
#3324 [23:42] <Ultranerder> and now an email was sent to this unknown address
#3325 [23:42] <Wug> download that, run it, go to options, click "show password"
#3326 [23:42] <Luigi> ok im downold
#3327 [23:42] <Wug> Luigi: that isnt for you
#3328 [23:43] <Wug> Luigi: if you dont need something specific, please stop randomly chatting
#3329 [23:43] <Luigi> huh
#3330 [23:43] <Luigi> wat u mean
#3331 [23:43] <Wug> read the sentence.
#3332 [23:44] <Wug> I said exactly what I meant.
#3333 [23:44] <Luigi> idc i just saying
#3334 [23:44] <Ultranerder> thanks guys
#3335 [23:44] <Ultranerder> ill persue additional troubleshooting
#3336 [23:44] <Wug> Ultranerder: did you use the download
#3337 [23:45] <Wug> SmartM0nk3y: here I am, ask me
#3338 [23:45] <Wug> don't pm people unless directed to do so
#3339 [23:45] <SmartM0nk3y> wug: ok sorry.
#3340 [23:46] <Luigi> ok?
#3341 [23:46] <Luigi> ok
#3342 [23:46] <Wug> are you going to ask a question or not
#3343 [23:47] <Luigi> no
#3344 [23:47] <Wug> ... do your parents know you're on the internet
#3345 [23:47] <TheNoodle> lol
#3346 [23:47] <SmartM0nk3y> wug: im trying to set up a server but my firewall (sonicwall TZ-190) is not compatible with PORT MAP and so im trying to set up at least a local server that we can play together on but idk how he can connect to it without me putting it online
#3347 [23:47] <Luigi> yes duh im not little
#3348 [23:47] <Wug> you're acting like an 8 year old
#3349 [23:47] <Wug> this is not a channel for general chatter
#3350 [23:47] <Wug> if you want one of those, go to #minecraft or #lobby
#3351 [23:47] <Luigi> ok idc
#3352 [23:48] <Wug> well start c'ing.
#3353 [23:48] <Luigi> jk
#3354 [23:48] <Wug> SmartM0nk3y: who is we
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#3356 [23:48] <Wug> are you and the second party on the same lan?
#3357 [23:48] <SmartM0nk3y> just my buddy and i were on the same wifi
#3358 [23:48] <Wug> use the local ip address
#3359 [23:49] <SmartM0nk3y> tried that
#3360 [23:49] <Wug> what ip did you use
#3361 [23:49] <Luigi> huh
#3362 [23:49] <Wug> Luigi: kindly stfu
#3363 [23:49] <Luigi> wat?
#3364 [23:49] * Wug kicked Luigi from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uigi :go somewhere else.)
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#3366 [23:50] <Luigi> stupid wug
#3367 [23:50] * Wug kicked Luigi from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uigi :I'm done.)
#3368 [23:50] <TheNoodle> lol.
#3369 [23:50] * Wug reaches through the internet and wrings his 8 year old neck
#3369 [23:51] <SmartM0nk3y> ol
#3370 [23:51] <SmartM0nk3y> lol
#3371 [23:51] <Wug> what ip did you use
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#3373 [23:51] <SmartM0nk3y> it wont even let me start the server on that ip
#3374 [23:51] <zenon> helo?
#3375 [23:51] <zenon> k
#3376 [23:51] <Wug> SmartM0nk3y: clear the server ip line
#3377 [23:51] <SmartM0nk3y> ok
#3378 [23:51] <Wug> you're supposed to leave it blank.
#3379 [23:51] <zenon> i keep getting pixel not acelerated
#3380 [23:51] <zenon> how do i fix it?
#3381 [23:51] <Wug> it has a very specific purpose and you're not using it correctly
#3382 [23:51] <Wug> ??> zenon dx
#3383 [23:52] <VoxelHead> zenon: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3384 [23:52] <VoxelHead> zenon: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3385 [23:52] <SmartM0nk3y> ok so then he types what to connect
#3386 [23:52] <zenon> o-e... im trying to play classic free thingy
#3387 [23:52] <zenon> and it doesnt start
#3388 [23:52] <zenon> it keeps saying pixel not accerlaerted
#3389 [23:53] <Wug> follow the directions
#3390 [23:53] <Wug> SmartM0nk3y: what ip are you giving him
#3391 [23:53] <zenon> wats whql?
#3392 [23:53] <zenon> amd irc channel?
#3393 [23:53] <SmartM0nk3y> what ip should i give him??
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#3395 [23:54] <Blockhead> Hello?
#3396 [23:54] <Iridium> if he's on the same network it should be your internal ip
#3397 [23:54] <Iridium> for me it's 192.168.1.x
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#3399 [23:55] <Iridium> but to find out you can press win+r then type cmd and then type ipconfig
#3400 [23:55] <Blockhead> I need help, I have a computer I have run minecraft before on. And now, (After I installed windows, and updated drivers), It can not help
#3401 [23:55] <Blockhead> and it won't run
#3402 [23:55] <SmartM0nk3y> im on osx bud\
#3403 [23:55] <Iridium> oh
#3404 [23:55] <SmartM0nk3y> yep lol
#3405 [23:55] <SmartM0nk3y> i know
#3406 [23:55] <Wug> zenon: it doesnt matter what whql is, just follow the directions
#3407 [23:56] <Wug> this is an irc channel
#3408 [23:56] <Wug> SmartM0nk3y: your local ip
#3409 [23:56] <Wug> I'm not sure what it is an theres no way for me to find out
#3410 [23:56] <SmartM0nk3y> like the whats my ip.com one
#3411 [23:56] <Wug> you have to get it
#3412 [23:56] <Blockhead> Can I get help with my problem please? (Sorry If I sound Pushy)
#3413 [23:56] <zenon> WHAT THE HELL U JUST MAKL ME DO
#3414 [23:56] <Wug> thats the global one
#3415 [23:56] <SmartM0nk3y> ifconfig?
#3416 [23:56] <Wug> ??> zenon dx
#3417 [23:56] <VoxelHead> zenon: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3418 [23:56] <VoxelHead> zenon: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3419 [23:56] <Wug> just do it ^
#3420 [23:57] <zenon> U MADE ME GIVE MY INFO OR SOMETHING?!
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#3422 [23:57] <TheNoodle> ...wat.
#3423 [23:57] <Iridium> that'll just tell him info about your pc
#3424 [23:57] <Wug> I'm about this close
#3425 [23:57] <TheNoodle> zenon, we need that info to fix your problem.
#3426 [23:57] <Wug> from just ignoreing you
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#3428 [23:57] <Wug> now cut the caps
#3429 [23:57] <Iridium> like what OS you're using, what programs are running, that sort of thing
#3430 [23:57] <zenon> k
#3431 [23:57] <zenon> so wat now
#3432 [23:57] <Wug> not even what programs are running
#3433 [23:57] <SmartM0nk3y> ugh g2g
#3434 [23:57] <Wug> just hardware
#3435 [23:57] <SmartM0nk3y> fuck
#3436 [23:57] * AuBot kicked SmartM0nk3y from #minecrafthelp (Reason: martM0nk3y :Please keep it civil.)
#3437 [23:57] <Blockhead> http://pastebin.com/nurXxX0f This is my error, my PC has run minecraft before, and all of the drivers are updated, what should you do?
#3438 [23:58] <Wug> aint aubot smart
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#3440 [23:58] <TheNoodle> love that :)
#3441 [23:58] <Blockhead> lol wug yep
#3442 [23:58] <dragonguts> hello i need help
#3443 [23:58] <zenon> voxein head
#3444 [23:58] <zenon> i submitted it
#3445 [23:58] <zenon> wat now
#3446 [23:58] <Wug> ??> Blockhead dx
#3447 [23:58] <VoxelHead> Blockhead: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3448 [23:58] <VoxelHead> Blockhead: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3449 [23:58] <Blockhead> But I have played minecraft, and the intel website says they are updated
#3450 [23:58] <Wug> zenon: vox is a bot
#3451 [23:58] <dragonguts> can some one help me with minecraft?
#3452 [23:58] <Wug> now read the directions
#3453 [23:58] <Wug> then read them again
#3454 [23:58] <Wug> then read them again
#3455 [23:58] <Wug> then read them again
#3456 [23:58] <Wug> then read them again
#3457 [23:58] <zenon> ...
#3458 [23:58] <Blockhead> voxel i did, here is the link.... again http://pastebin.com/nurXxX0f
#3459 [23:58] <Wug> then follow ALL OF THEM
#3460 [23:58] <Wug> IN ORDER
#3461 [23:59] <zenon> wats irc channel?
#3462 [23:59] <Blockhead> aubot thank you very much, for every time you said that lol
#3463 [23:59] <dragonguts> for some reason every time i open the game to play, the screen is just black
#3464 [23:59] <Wug> this is an irc channel.
#3465 [23:59] <dragonguts> huh?
#3466 [23:59] <Wug> ??> dragonguts forceupdate
#3467 [23:59] <VoxelHead> dragonguts: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3468 [23:59] <VoxelHead> dragonguts: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#3469 [23:59] <dragonguts> how do i do that
#3470 [23:59] <Wug> ..........