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#2 [00:02] <yort> After about one/two minutes of playing, my minecraft shuts down with the error message "java platform se binary has stopped responding" I have tried running mc on a different account on my computer, and it worked. I have re-installed my entire minecraft and have deleted and re-downloaded Java 6 27. Is there some way to fix this?
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#4 [00:05] <Thrae> yort: So a new Windows account works fine?
#5 [00:07] <fieldju> Ive had my minecon tickets for months and i did get my cape today, is there any way to fix this
#6 [00:07] <yort> yes
#7 [00:08] <Thrae> yort: Does this happen both in Single Player and Multi-Player?
#8 [00:08] <Thrae> fieldju: I have absolutely no idea about capes
#9 [00:09] <Thrae> ?? account
#10 [00:09] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#11 [00:09] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#12 [00:09] <yort> definately in single player, i haven't tried it in multiplayer
#13 [00:09] <Thrae> yort: Are you trying new worlds?
#14 [00:09] <yort> yes
#15 [00:09] <yort> i made a new world in the alternate account, and in my current one
#16 [00:09] <Thrae> OK, try multiplayer with the same account you had trouble on
#17 [00:10] <yort> okay
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#19 [00:12] <yoshi> how do you stop crashes?
#20 [00:12] <yoshi> ok
#21 [00:13] <fieldju> download spoutcraft?
#22 [00:13] <Thrae> yoshi: There's no one magic way. Are you using Windows, Linux, Mac?
#23 [00:13] <yoshi> mac
#24 [00:13] <fieldju> or incrase alocated ram
#25 [00:13] <yoshi> the map wont loas
#26 [00:13] <yoshi> load
#27 [00:13] <Thrae> yoshi: What version of Mac OS X?
#28 [00:13] <yoshi> yes
#29 [00:13] <Thrae> I need a number.
#30 [00:13] <yoshi> what do you mean
#31 [00:13] <yoshi> ?
#32 [00:14] <Thrae> The version of Mac OS X.
#33 [00:14] <yoshi> hold on
#34 [00:14] <Thrae> The version number, as in 10.2.3, 10.5.8, 10.6, 10.6.8, 10.4.8
#35 [00:14] <yoshi> 10.5.8
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#37 [00:15] <Thrae> ?? yoshi mac/10.5.8
#38 [00:15] <yoshi> wait
#39 [00:15] <yoshi> i saw the link
#40 [00:15] <Thrae> ?? mac/10.5.8
#41 [00:15] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#42 [00:15] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#43 [00:17] <yort> okay, i ran around on a server for about three mintues, to the point where it would normally stop running. so i do believe my mc works fine on servers.
#44 [00:17] <yoshi> ok
#45 [00:17] <yoshi> thanks
#46 [00:17] <Thrae> yort: OK, not sure what's going on with Single Player then....are you modding your Minecraft or using texture packs?
#47 [00:18] <yort> i had some texture packs, but it shuts down regardless of which one i use (or default)
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#50 [00:18] <Thrae> yort: Try copying your worlds folder somewhere else and then making a new world
#51 [00:19] <yort> copying it? sorry dont understand
#52 [00:19] <Thrae> yort: Yes, copy it to a different folder
#53 [00:19] <|Kiikun|> :old/mac
#54 [00:19] <WugBot> old/mac: As of the 1.8 update minecraft will not work on Mac OSX 10.5.8, due to an update in the version of OpenGL it uses. This is a known issue and will be corrected as soon as 1.9 is released. Please be patient, as this is not the fault of Mojang. Blame instead apple, becuse they cannot keep their OS's running the latest version of important software.
#55 [00:19] <WugBot> old/mac: A fan made fix can be found here: http://goo.gl/ae0jx and a tutorial here: http://goo.gl/IWLwN
#56 [00:19] <|Kiikun|> :P
#57 [00:19] <yort> and start a new world? or what folder?
#58 [00:20] <Thrae> yort: Yeah. Clean out your saves folder, copying the contents somewhere else, then make a new world.
#59 [00:20] <yort> oh, k
#60 [00:21] <Thrae> yort: In fact, do this -- copy the contents of your saves folder somewhere else, then delete your minecraft folder entirely
#61 [00:22] <yort> then download it again?
#62 [00:22] <yort> from minecaft.net
#63 [00:22] <Thrae> exactly
#64 [00:23] <yort> okay
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#69 [00:32] <yort> i've been playing for the last 5 or so mintues, and it seems to work. i'm surprised that this simple solution is so effective. Thanks! and if i get more trouble, i'll come back here
#70 [00:33] <Thrae> yort: Well you eliminated most everything else yourself by making a new profile -- smart :)
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#77 [01:20] <Iridium> do dropped items ever desspawn?
#78 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes, after 5 minutes
#79 [01:20] <Iridium> in smp
#80 [01:20] <Iridium> oh
#81 [01:20] <Iridium> damn
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#83 [01:22] <Dimaryp> Hey, can anyone help me? I just bought the game, but when I go to load it, it says cannot connect to minecraft.net. I've tried deleting the .minecraft folder, but it still won't work.
#84 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Dimaryp - What operating system are you on?
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#86 [01:23] <Dimaryp> Windows 7.
#87 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Your system time and date correct? Does your windows username happen to have a ! mark in it?
#88 [01:24] <Dimaryp> ....It does have a !
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#91 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> That would be why then. You have two choices. One, make a new windows user account that doesn't have a ! mark in it, or two, use our workaround
#92 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> ??> Dimaryp !
#93 [01:25] <VoxelHead> Dimaryp: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#94 [01:25] <VoxelHead> Dimaryp: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
#95 [01:26] <Dimaryp> Thanks. I'll try changing the username.
#96 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Changing the username will not work.
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#99 [01:31] <DimarypEvans> Okay. So I tried getting rid of the exclaimation point in my username, but that didn't seem to fix it.
#100 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Changing the username will not work.
#101 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> Changing the username doesn't change the folder name of your user profile's path
#102 [01:32] <DimarypEvans> Ah.
#103 [01:32] <DimarypEvans> So I need to make a new profile then?
#104 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> Either that, or use our workaround
#105 [01:32] <DimarypEvans> Can you link it again? And how likely is it to mess with the program?
#106 [01:32] <TheNoodle> ??> DimarypEvans !
#107 [01:32] <|Kiikun|> ?? 1
#108 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> There's been quite a few people that have used it successfully
#109 [01:32] <VoxelHead> DimarypEvans: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#110 [01:32] <VoxelHead> DimarypEvans: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
#111 [01:32] <|Kiikun|> erm
#112 [01:33] <TheNoodle> lol
#113 [01:33] <|Kiikun|> and its completely unlikely to mess with anything besides getting ti to work :D
#114 [01:33] * |Kiikun| uses something very similar to play minecraft on an portable drive
#114 [01:38] <DimarypEvans> Should I run the workaround before or after I download minecraft?
#115 [01:38] <DimarypEvans> Wow. I freakin' worked....
#116 [01:38] <DimarypEvans> Thanks, guys.
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#118 [01:39] <guest-0-06277> do u know how to set spawn point on ur own personal sever?
#119 [01:39] <guest-0-06277> anyone on?
#120 [01:40] <TheNoodle> What plugins are you using?
#121 [01:40] <guest-0-06277> anyone?
#122 [01:40] <guest-0-06277> lol
#123 [01:40] <TheNoodle> If using Essentials you can do so by typing /setspawn
#124 [01:40] <guest-0-06277> one sec
#125 [01:41] <nipper> herospawn
#126 [01:41] <nipper> Is what I use. Also sets first spawn as well.
#127 [01:41] <guest-0-06277> herospawn?
#128 [01:41] <nipper> yeah.
#129 [01:41] <guest-0-06277> what is that
#130 [01:41] <nipper> Not a fan of ESS it breaks or conflits with alot of other plugins.
#131 [01:42] <guest-0-06277> easy to install
#132 [01:42] <nipper> It's a spawn set plugin. Sets the spawn for everyone on the server unless they sleep in a bed.
#133 [01:42] <Juze> Essentials conflicts or breaks plugins
#134 [01:42] <Juze> Use CommandBook
#135 [01:42] <Juze> PS: I use SpawnControl and CommandBook
#136 [01:42] <Juze> SC has more precise spawn
#137 [01:42] <nipper> Juze Issue with commandbook it does not set first spawn. Herospawn works just as well.
#138 [01:42] <nipper> and guest-0-06277 put jar in plugins dir
#139 [01:42] <Juze> CommandBook has all commands you need too
#140 [01:43] <nipper> yeah I use it as well
#141 [01:43] <Juze> I don't use CommandBook to set my spawn
#142 [01:43] <nipper> then use /herosetspawn
#143 [01:43] <Juze> Meh, SpawnControl since hMod :P
#144 [01:43] <nipper> Waiting on sk8 to fix the first spawn issue with commandbook.
#145 [01:43] <nipper> more likly be Wiz to fix it.
#146 [01:43] <guest-0-06277> put jar in pulgins dir? what is that
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#148 [01:44] <Juze> Have you tried the dev builds yet?
#149 [01:44] <Juze> guest-0-06277: You need to use Bukkit server software
#150 [01:44] <nipper> oh sorry. guest-0-06277 You need bukkit fort hat.
#151 [01:44] <Juze> And download the plugin jar
#152 [01:44] <guest-0-06277> ugh
#153 [01:44] <guest-0-06277> lol
#154 [01:44] <nipper> guest-0-06277 just sleep in a bed it sets you spawn as well.
#155 [01:44] <guest-0-06277> i have hamachi
#156 [01:44] <nipper> But only for your self.
#157 [01:44] <Juze> Hamachi doesn't count at all
#158 [01:44] <guest-0-06277> lol
#159 [01:45] <Juze> It's for the beginners who cannot manage servers very well and don't know how to visit http://portforward.com
#160 [01:45] <guest-0-06277> only way i found out how to host my own sever
#161 [01:45] <Juze> Portforward
#162 [01:45] <Juze> And you'll get rid of Hamachi
#163 [01:45] <SinZ> <3 the spelling in this channel at the moment
#164 [01:45] <nipper> DMZ
#165 [01:45] <|Kiikun|> ?? fubar/hamachi
#166 [01:45] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#167 [01:45] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#168 [01:46] <|Kiikun|> :P
#169 [01:46] <Juze> Yeah, that explains it quite well
#170 [01:46] <Juze> But Hamachi has nothing to do with this problem
#171 [01:46] <guest-0-06277> what do u guy/girls u to host ur severs?
#172 [01:46] <Juze> Bukkit
#173 [01:46] <Juze> With proper portforwards
#174 [01:46] * |Kiikun| hasa bukkit and a vanilla server
#174 [01:47] <guest-0-06277> u know a video or link to get it?
#175 [01:47] <Juze> http://bukkit.org
#176 [01:47] <Juze> Is it so hard to use google? :)
#177 [01:47] <Juze> Also, #bukkit
#178 [01:47] <guest-0-06277> thanks..this hard to set up?
#179 [01:48] <Juze> Nope.
#180 [01:48] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-06277: theres a guide on bukkit's site. its the mods that get complicated to set up. :P
#181 [01:48] <Juze> Just my tip: If everything seems so difficult to host a server, then don't try it or have someone set it up for you instead. You should only host a server for a friend or two max in this case.
#182 [01:49] <Juze> Plugins are easy to setup
#183 [01:49] <Juze> Some people struggle with Permissions for no reason
#184 [01:49] <Juze> No apparent reason
#185 [01:49] <guest-0-06277> well i got mine to host and me and three other friends playing on it
#186 [01:49] <|Kiikun|> Juze: i found very little documentation on the proper formatting of the permissions yml files
#187 [01:49] <Juze> |Kiikun|: PermissionsEx wiki for example
#188 [01:49] <mau5ie> Mostly because they can't grasp how to format the configs, I think.
#189 [01:49] <Juze> YAML is always 4 spaces, not tabs
#190 [01:50] <Juze> You can also use 2 spaces if you prefer :P
#191 [01:50] <Juze> Or closed [permission.node.1, permission.node.2] instead of lining them all with - permission.node.2
#192 [01:51] <guest-0-06277> is bukkit a .jar ?
#193 [01:51] <Juze> Yes
#194 [01:51] <guest-0-06277> kk
#195 [01:51] <Juze> You need CraftBukkit.
#196 [01:51] <Juze> Bukkit is the developer API that are plugins are based on
#197 [01:51] <|Kiikun|> craftbukkit = the actual server
#198 [01:52] <Juze> Just to make your life easier
#199 [01:52] <Juze> http://ci.bukkit.org/job/dev-CraftBukkit/ CraftBukkit downloads
#200 [01:53] <Juze> http://ci.bukkit.org/job/dev-CraftBukkit/1317/ #1317 CraftBukkit, currently recommended
#201 [01:53] <Juze> http://ci.bukkit.org/job/dev-CraftBukkit/Recommended/ Always latest recommended, in this case, #1317
#202 [01:53] <|Kiikun|> ah...
#203 [01:53] * |Kiikun| still has somewhere in the low 1000s
#203 [01:54] <Juze> #160 here or something
#204 [01:54] <Juze> Well that's when I started :P
#205 [01:54] <Juze> Currently running #1185 on my server because all plugins work on it
#206 [01:54] <Juze> #1240 has a few breakages
#207 [01:54] <Juze> Haven't tried the new #1317 yet
#208 [01:55] <guest-0-06277> lol when i try to up it...black box with white wrting shows up and goes away
#209 [01:56] <Juze> It's your Windows command line.
#210 [01:56] <Juze> You are not supposed to launch the .jar directly
#211 [01:56] <Juze> You need to make a command line script
#212 [01:56] <Juze> In Windows, that would be .bat
#213 [01:56] <guest-0-06277> dam
#214 [01:56] <Juze> Oh yeah, you also need to set your Java path in enviromental variables
#215 [01:56] <Juze> If "java -version" isn't working already in "cmd"
#216 [01:57] <Juze> Sounds too complicated? Maybe just throw in a few dollars for hosting.
#217 [01:57] <Juze> And let the hoster's support setup a server for you.
#218 [01:57] <guest-0-06277> na
#219 [01:57] <guest-0-06277> ill find out
#220 [01:58] <guest-0-06277> only one way to learn
#221 [01:58] <Juze> Okay, prepare to go through a hell of two hours minium with no previous experience and general lack of computing skills. But don't worry, we're here to help you out.
#222 [01:58] <Juze> At least I am for a few minutes, then a teacher comes in
#223 [01:58] <guest-0-06277> youtube lol
#224 [01:58] <Juze> I'm at school
#225 [01:58] <Juze> Meh, forget YouTube. So many fail guides there.
#226 [01:58] <guest-0-06277> its 1am here
#227 [01:58] <Juze> Follow my instructions :3
#228 [01:59] <Thrae> guest-0-06277: If Java is installed according to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp , then you'll have to add it to your PATH system variable -- http://www.java.com/en/download/help/path.xml
#229 [02:00] <Thrae> guest-0-06277: ";C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin" is what you need to add, without the quotes, if you're using Java 6
#230 [02:00] <Juze> Depends on which version of Java and OS you are also using, and if you are using any partitions
#231 [02:00] <Juze> And we all know that Java 7 is better for performance
#232 [02:01] <guest-0-06277> ill do it tomorrow
#233 [02:01] <guest-0-06277> ha i have most mods in anyway
#234 [02:02] <Juze> You can't use singleplayer mods in multiplayer by the way.
#235 [02:02] <Thrae> Juze: Java 7 has known issues, so we don't recommend it to people having problems.
#236 [02:02] <guest-0-06277> i can
#237 [02:02] <guest-0-06277> all four of us were
#238 [02:02] <Juze> Well, you can't install, for example, randomobs to multiplayer
#239 [02:02] <Juze> Or special blocks
#240 [02:02] <Juze> You can only install Bukkit plugins
#241 [02:03] <guest-0-06277> i can fly and infine of everything on mode set to 0
#242 [02:03] <Thrae> guest-0-06277: You can only use Multiplayer-specific mods in the Vanilla server. There is a way to get mods working *sometimes* with Bukkit, but it's very difficult.
#243 [02:03] <Juze> Thrae: If Java 6 works after this, I'd recommend Java 7
#244 [02:03] <guest-0-06277> using hex editor
#245 [02:03] <Juze> Never experienced any issues with Java 7 on Windows or Linux
#246 [02:03] <Thrae> guest-0-06277: That's a new feature added in 1.8 for everyone
#247 [02:04] <guest-0-06277> hex editing things is alot faster to get what u want
#248 [02:04] <Thrae> Juze: After helping many, MANY people here we've found problems with it. Personally I use it myself, just not for Minecraft.
#249 [02:04] <guest-0-06277> u can change cord using it too
#250 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Juze - I seriously wouldn't recommend java 7 around here, not unless you want to take personal responsibility for when it breaks
#251 [02:05] <Thrae> guest-0-06277: I have no idea what you're talking about. In Multiplayer, *everyone* can fly by switching their player to Creative Mode, which also gives them infinite items and one-hit block destruction.
#252 [02:05] <Juze> I do want to take personal responsibility
#253 [02:05] <Juze> I'm just saying, if Java 7 doesn't work for you, use Java 6
#254 [02:05] <guest-0-06277> withou that be on..i can
#255 [02:05] <guest-0-06277> were i can still died and need to eatr
#256 [02:05] <Thrae> Juze: What if it works immediately and has a problem 1 week down the road? Will you be here to help him? That's why we recommend what we've found to be the most stable.
#257 [02:06] <guest-0-06277> gave myself all thing from creative mode but i can still died and need to eat and ppl can attack me
#258 [02:06] <Juze> Thrae: Hosted servers with Java 7 since the betas. No probs.
#259 [02:06] <Juze> 200-slot server
#260 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> I've been here over a year, I can't count how many times OpenJDK or Java7's caused numerous problems for people
#261 [02:07] <Juze> OpenJDK causes problems
#262 [02:07] <Juze> That's what I know
#263 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> It's why we recommend the stable, sunjava 6 for people that come here with either installed
#264 [02:07] <Thrae> Juze: Your personal anecdotal evidence of one person's experience doesn't refute our anecdotal evidence of hundreds.
#265 [02:07] <Juze> Java 7 only causes a slight issue on Linux, client side
#266 [02:07] <Juze> Can be fixed with path though
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#269 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> I understand that java 7 works better for many people, but it's not something I want #minecrafthelp to recommend just yet.
#270 [02:08] <Juze> Java 8 and 9 are out soon.
#271 [02:08] <Juze> :|
#272 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Personally, I will still recommend java 6 for people running either the minecraft client, or server.
#273 [02:09] <Thrae> Well, I think it's also telling that Oracle still hasn't pushed Java 7 out
#274 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Less problems
#275 [02:09] <Juze> "Hasn't pushed Java 7 out"?
#276 [02:09] <Thrae> It's been released on the dev side and as a JRE, but http://www.java.com/en/download still downloads Java 6 Update 27
#277 [02:09] <Juze> It's quite visible on their site
#278 [02:10] <Juze> Oracle downloads has Java 7 too
#279 [02:10] <Thrae> You have to manually download Java 7
#280 [02:10] <Juze> Right next to Java 6
#281 [02:10] <Thrae> Yes, by push I mean all of the Java updaters recommend Java 7
#282 [02:12] <Thrae> If Sun-Orcale is so confident of Java 7 they should say you do not have the latest "recommended version" of Java when I go to webpages like http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp or testjava.jsp
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#284 [02:37] <HoboPickle> im having issues increasng the amount of ram my server can use. i have 64bit java installed, but i get invalid heap size when trying to start it with 4096MB or 4G
#285 [02:37] <Thrae> HoboPickle: So when you do "java --version" it gives back 64-bit VM or "x86_64"?
#286 [02:38] <Thrae> HoboPickle: Also, what's your total RAM?
#287 [02:38] <HoboPickle> 12GB.
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#290 [02:38] <HoboPickle> i fail at cmd... sec on tha java version thing.
#291 [02:39] <HoboPickle> don't suppose you know where i should be running cmd from? directory wise? :P
#292 [02:39] <HoboPickle> actually.
#293 [02:39] <Thrae> HoboPickle: Windows Key + R brings you the Run dialog box, then you can just type cmd in there
#294 [02:39] <HoboPickle> C:\Users\Owner>java ==version
#295 [02:39] <HoboPickle> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ==version
#296 [02:39] <HoboPickle> ==?
#297 [02:39] <HoboPickle> wat?
#298 [02:40] <Thrae> does -- look like == on your client?
#299 [02:40] <HoboPickle> C:\Users\Owner>java --version
#300 [02:40] <HoboPickle> Unrecognized option: --version
#301 [02:40] <Thrae> dash dash
#302 [02:40] <HoboPickle> on the cmd window, a little :P
#303 [02:40] <Thrae> whoops, -version not --version
#304 [02:41] <HoboPickle> java version "1.6.0_27"
#305 [02:41] <HoboPickle> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_27-b07)
#306 [02:41] <HoboPickle> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.2-b06, mixed mode)
#307 [02:41] <HoboPickle> too many lines per minute, or so?
#308 [02:41] <Thrae> OK, what's the exact command you're sending Java?
#309 [02:42] <HoboPickle> i'm using bukkit, modifying it in the bukkit server .bat file. (can you still help, even though im using bukkit?)
#310 [02:42] <Thrae> For this particular problem yes, so what's the exact command in the batch file with java in it
#311 [02:42] <HoboPickle> %ProgramFiles(x86)%\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xincgc -Xmx4G -jar "%~dp0craftbukkit-0.0.1-snapshot.jar" is the 64bit line in the bat file.
#312 [02:43] <HoboPickle> also tried 4096MB
#313 [02:43] <Thrae> HoboPickle: There's your problem -- replace %ProgramFiles(x86)% with %ProgramFiles%
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#315 [02:43] <Thrae> Program Files (x86) == 32-bit programs (including 32-bit Java), while just Program Files is 64-bit on 64-bit Windows
#316 [02:44] <HoboPickle> awesome, worked.
#317 [02:44] <HoboPickle> thanks a bunch.
#318 [02:44] <Thrae> And 32-bit Java is limited to 1.5GB on 32-bit Windows
#319 [02:44] * Thrae nods to HoboPickle
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#320 [02:52] * HoboPickle sighs
#320 [02:52] <HoboPickle> someone blew up so much tnt, even 4GB is still giving out of memory.
#321 [02:52] <TheNoodle> Two options, 1) load it into mcedit 2) upload it and let one of us handle the tnt :P
#322 [02:53] <HoboPickle> we'll see how 7G does.
#323 [02:53] <HoboPickle> hell, i can close firefox to free up another for 8G.
#324 [02:53] <TheNoodle> lol.
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#326 [02:54] <Thrae> HoboPickle: I don't think you can solve the TNT / Fire memory problems -- Minecraft shouldn't just crash with OOM, it's a problem I think Notch says "Just don't do it for now"
#327 [02:54] <HoboPickle> hm
#328 [02:54] <Thrae> Ideally he should just remove excess TNT / put out too many Fires. There are also Bukkit plugins which help with this too.
#329 [02:55] <HoboPickle> would increased disk speed help with it, though? as far as processing explosions?
#330 [02:55] <mau5ie> lol
#331 [02:55] <HoboPickle> actually i don't think that will. oh well
#332 [02:55] <HoboPickle> and yeah, i know theres mods and all
#333 [02:55] <mau5ie> or worldguard's stoplag, i think.
#334 [02:55] <Thrae> HoboPickle: I have mine on a ramdisk and it still happens to me, like when players started dropping out due to an op spawning 1,000 sheep
#335 [02:56] <HoboPickle> but only those i trust connect, so i don't worry too much about what they doo.
#336 [02:56] <Thrae> Yeah, I still run MineBackup on Bukkit, plus LogBlock, as both have helped me out in the past just dealing with a private server
#337 [02:56] <HoboPickle> minebackup? how well does that one work?
#338 [02:57] <Thrae> And CreeperHeal
#339 [02:57] <HoboPickle> ive been looking for a backup addon that works well, since i have worldedit and well, a couple people don't quite understand stuff... well.
#340 [02:57] <mau5ie> MineBackup works alright as long as you monitor it.
#341 [02:57] <Thrae> MineBackup is the only working backup plugin for Bukkit right now AFAIK, although for the latest recommended builds you need someone's fork of MineBackup with a small fix
#342 [02:57] <TheNoodle> Thrae, how have you found backing up using a ramdisk?
#343 [02:58] <HoboPickle> im still using an old bukkit setup. week old or so
#344 [02:58] <Thrae> TheNoodle: I don't back up *to* the ramdisk of course so there's still the I/O hit, but starting up the server is super-fast. Mostly I'm trying to avoid what seems to be Solaris-specific overhead issues.
#345 [02:59] <TheNoodle> Fair enough, I have some funky shit set up for backups, pulls from one ramdisk to another every minute and backs up from there.
#346 [02:59] <TheNoodle> Trouble is, not really an option for most servers.
#347 [03:00] <Thrae> TheNoodle: Yeah, that's why I like MineBackup -- it deals with the problems with locks and all
#348 [03:00] <TheNoodle> Might have a look at it :)
#349 [03:00] <Thrae> And since it's a ramdisk I also have it constantly copying the current ramdisk state every 15 minutes
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#351 [03:01] <Thrae> Since a simple read isn't going to impact the server performance, and the read is so very quick there's no need to lock the server as it's a safe read
#352 [03:02] <HoboPickle> topped out at 9.2GB used total. http://vvcap.net/db/Ki-3dyb8m8ikgEpLxMQU.png all for... that.
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#354 [03:27] <[AJ]> mc uses waay more memory than it really needs to
#355 [03:27] <[AJ]> lol
#356 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#357 [03:27] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (3:23a Oct 11 11) temp(50.3 F / 10.2 C) cond(Clear) wind(North at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(95%) dewpnt(49 F / 9 C) bp(30.14 in / 1020.5 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(7.0 miles / 11.3 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#358 [03:27] <GreyBot> Early This Evening: Partly cloudy. Temperatures falling to 69. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph.
#359 [03:28] <SinZ> !weather melbourne
#360 [03:28] <GreyBot> SinZ: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#361 [03:28] <SinZ> =(
#362 [03:28] <SinZ> !weather croydon, melbourne
#363 [03:28] <GreyBot> SinZ: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
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#366 [03:36] <SinZ> GreyBot: you suck =(
#367 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> How about
#368 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> !weather croydon, queensland
#369 [03:39] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Croydon, Queensland (3:00p Oct 11 11) temp(101 F / 38 C) cond(Partly Cloudy) wind(West at 4 mph / 6 km/h) hu(18%) dewpnt(61 F / 16 C) bp(29.71 in / 1006 hPa (Falling)) vis(31.0 miles / 50.0 kilometers) uv(N/A)
#370 [03:39] <GreyBot> Monday: Clear. High: 104 F.
#371 [03:40] <SinZ> Croydon is in melbourne...
#372 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> Not according to wunderground
#373 [03:40] <SinZ> !weather Croydon, Victoria
#374 [03:40] <GreyBot> SinZ: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#375 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> How about
#376 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> !weather melbourne, victoria
#377 [03:41] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Melbourne, Victoria (6:40p Oct 11 11) temp(52.0 F / 11.1 C) cond(Scattered Clouds) wind(SE at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(59%) dewpnt(46 F / 8 C) bp(29.49 in / 998.5 hPa (Rising)) clouds((FEW) : 2500 ft / 762 m, Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 3000 ft / 914 m) vis(6.2 miles / 10.0 kilometers) uv(1 out of 16)
#378 [03:41] <GreyBot> Monday: Overcast. High: 57 F.
#379 [03:41] <SinZ> close enough
#380 [03:41] <SinZ> !weather mooroolbark
#381 [03:41] <GreyBot> SinZ: City not found
#382 [03:41] <SinZ> =(
#383 [03:41] <TheNoodle> lol
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#385 [03:41] <SinZ> !weather coldstream
#386 [03:41] <GreyBot> SinZ: Please narrow your search or search by INTL station ID
#387 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> Stop breaking greybot with your nonexistant cities!
#388 [03:42] <SinZ> !weather coldstream, victoria
#389 [03:42] <GreyBot> SinZ: From Coldstream Estate, Coldstream, Victoria (6:41p Oct 11 11) temp(53.2 F / 11.8 C) cond(Mostly Cloudy) wind(West at 4.6 mph / 7.4 km/h) hu(70%) dewpnt(44 F / 7 C) bp(29.96 in / 1014.4 hPa (Rising)) clouds((FEW) : 2200 ft / 670 m, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 3500 ft / 1066 m) vis(6.2 miles / 10.0 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#390 [03:42] <GreyBot> Monday: Chance of Rain. High: 61 F.
#391 [03:42] <SinZ> yay
#392 [03:42] <Ranga179> hi!
#393 [03:42] * GreyVulpine waves
#393 [03:42] <SinZ> hai
#394 [03:46] <Ranga179> is minecraft forums down? i keep getting error 502 bad gateway
#395 [03:46] <Ranga179> nevermind its back :)
#396 [03:57] <|Kiikun|> !weather waterbury, ct
#397 [03:57] <GreyBot> |Kiikun|: From Overlook, Waterbury, Connecticut (3:57a Oct 11 11) temp(59.0 F / 15.0 C) cond(Clear) wind(NNW at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(89%) dewpnt(56 F / 13 C) bp(30.22 in / 1023.2 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Clear (CLR)) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#398 [03:57] <GreyBot> Rest of Tonight: Partly cloudy. Patchy fog. Lows in the mid 50s. North winds around 5 mph.
#399 [03:58] <|Kiikun|> :P
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#401 [04:00] <Valdemar> Anyone here?
#402 [04:00] <|Kiikun|> possibly :P
#403 [04:00] <|Kiikun|> whats up?
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#405 [04:01] <Valdemar> Still got this problem with Minecraft offline when i try to log in! And I think ive got the right download, 18.1
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#407 [04:02] <|Kiikun|> as i have no idea what 'this problem' is.. please describe it
#408 [04:03] <Valdemar> Well, everytime i try to log on minecraft, it finds no internet and asks if it can run the offline version. But clearly, i have access to internet.
#409 [04:03] <|Kiikun|> Valdemar: redownload the client first.
#410 [04:03] <Valdemar> Where?
#411 [04:04] <|Kiikun|> !client
#412 [04:05] <Valdemar> For windows, and now im at the launcher thingy, and i will press Login, and beneath login is Options. And overall theres news?
#413 [04:06] <|Kiikun|> Valdemar: yup.
#414 [04:06] <|Kiikun|> Valdemar: i masuming you were using the old (and no longer working) launcher before? :D
#415 [04:07] <Valdemar> No, ive installed, if you can call it that, this one like four times now.
#416 [04:07] <TheNoodle> Does your windows username have a ! in it?
#417 [04:07] <Valdemar> Waaait
#418 [04:08] * TheNoodle waits
#418 [04:08] <Valdemar> Nope, but now Im online. When i turn minecraft down again, i think the same problem will be there.
#419 [04:08] <Valdemar> Thank you for your patience, TheNoodle.
#420 [04:08] <TheNoodle> lol
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#422 [04:10] <Simone> seriously, moneybookers is the biggest joke ever
#423 [04:10] <[AJ]> ho
#424 [04:10] <[AJ]> how
#425 [04:10] <TheNoodle> No shit :P
#426 [04:10] <Simone> instead of a "instant" transfer that takes some hours its gonna take me a week
#427 [04:10] <|Kiikun|> :P because all the proper checks have to be made by the banks i asume
#428 [04:11] <Simone> my money got lost(??) so i had to send a printscreen of my bank transfers and account
#429 [04:11] * |Kiikun| has a debt card and paypal all authed so is good to pay anywhere :D
#429 [04:12] <[AJ]> Well, on your end yes, I guess it sucks. Sucks for those who want to steal your money to. So there's a double edged sword for ya. :D
#430 [04:12] <TheNoodle> ^
#431 [04:12] <Simone> later, they do not return my money, they put it in their fucking account where its locked
#432 [04:12] * AuBot kicked Simone from #minecrafthelp (Reason: imone :Please keep it civil.)
#433 [04:12] <[AJ]> too*
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#435 [04:12] <[AJ]> fucking
#436 [04:12] * AuBot kicked [AJ] from #minecrafthelp (Reason: AJ] :Please keep it civil.)
#437 [04:12] <Simone> aw sorry
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#439 [04:12] <[AJ]> lol
#440 [04:13] <|Kiikun|> lol autokicks
#441 [04:13] <Valdemar> Where can i watch my skin on the minecraft page?
#442 [04:13] <[AJ]> That bot has no contextual sense. :(
#443 [04:13] <|Kiikun|> ?? skin
#444 [04:13] <|Kiikun|> ?? skins
#445 [04:13] <|Kiikun|> :/
#446 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> skin preview is disabled
#447 [04:13] <GreyVulpine> Use http://minecraft.novaskin.me/
#448 [04:13] <[AJ]> haaaah
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#450 [04:13] <|Kiikun|> ooh :P
#451 [04:14] <[AJ]> mmm
#452 [04:16] <Valdemar> Still offline, any tips?
#453 [04:18] <|Kiikun|> Valdemar: what does http://login.minecraft.net say to you?
#454 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> Valdemar - What error do you get exactly?
#455 [04:18] <Valdemar> Bad login
#456 [04:18] <GreyVulpine> When you log in, what error do you get?
#457 [04:18] * |Kiikun| tosses that idea into the circular file then.
#457 [04:18] <Valdemar> Minecraft only wants to login in offline mode
#458 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> Which one of these do you see?
#459 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/V1pYh.png
#460 [04:19] <Valdemar> None of those
#461 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> None?
#462 [04:19] <Valdemar> Cant connect to minecraft .net
#463 [04:19] <Valdemar> ANd then the choices
#464 [04:20] <Valdemar> Play offline or try again
#465 [04:20] <TheNoodle> :/
#466 [04:20] <TheNoodle> So you see the second one?
#467 [04:20] <GreyVulpine> Have you been able to play before?
#468 [04:20] <Valdemar> In a gray box
#469 [04:20] <Valdemar> I have been able to play before, and I do not see the second one
#470 [04:20] <Simone> anyone tried to buy minecraft directly trough moneybooker?
#471 [04:20] <Valdemar> Not one of them
#472 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> Valdemar - What security software do you run?
#473 [04:21] <Valdemar> I do not know, hrm.
#474 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> I'm thinking you've got a firewall blocking minecraft from connecting
#475 [04:22] <Valdemar> Where do I prevent that?
#476 [04:22] <GreyVulpine> All depends on what software you have installed
#477 [04:22] <Valdemar> Thanks for all the help by the way. Where can i find what software i have installed for security?
#478 [04:23] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#479 [04:23] <Valdemar> Windows
#480 [04:24] <GreyVulpine> Look in your system tray, by your clock. Any running software should be down there somewhere
#481 [04:26] <Valdemar> McAfee?
#482 [04:26] <TheNoodle> Grey, I know aubot can read a pastebin and look for 'bad video card drivers' or whatever it is, does greybot have the same functionality?
#483 [04:26] <GreyVulpine> No
#484 [04:27] <GreyVulpine> Valdemar - That would be it
#485 [04:27] <Wug> I should make kealper teach aubot to translate stack traces to mcp
#486 [04:27] <Wug> it would help me a lot
#487 [04:27] <Kealper> sounds hard
#488 [04:27] <Kealper> i mean...
#489 [04:27] * Kealper rawrs
#489 [04:27] <TheNoodle> lol
#490 [04:28] <Wug> other people ... well, mcp mappings are easier to read than od.ud.qv.je.ms.xd.e
#491 [04:28] <Kealper> lol
#492 [04:28] * Wug rawrs at Kealper
#492 [04:28] <Kealper> D:
#493 [04:28] <Wug> mutual rawring!
#494 [04:28] <Kealper> MAR.. Mutually Assured Rawring
#495 [04:29] <Wug> MAD.. mutually assured derping
#496 [04:29] <Kealper> ^
#497 [04:29] <Wug> or just mutually assured DERP
#498 [04:30] <Kealper> this sucks...i went to bed early because i had a headache, and sleeping a headache off is always way better than getting drugged up to make you not feel it...but..
#499 [04:31] <Kealper> it turns out that was too early to go to bed, as 4 hours later i'm awake again...and can't get back to sleep
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#501 [04:35] <Simone> hahah this is not true
#502 [04:36] <Simone> when moneybooker finally found my money currencies changed so now i have to upload additional cents
#503 [04:36] <Simone> i love this
#504 [04:36] <presto5> Ist jemand hier vieleicht deutsch?
#505 [04:37] <TheNoodle> Ich weiß, sehr schlecht wenn.
#506 [04:38] <TheNoodle> Was wird benötigt?
#507 [04:38] <presto5> TheNoodle kannst du mir helfen! Also ich kann immer 2-3 minuten Minecraft spielen, dann hängt es sich immer auf!
#508 [04:38] <presto5> Entweder steht da garkeine Fehlermeldung
#509 [04:38] <presto5> Also es verschwindet einfach
#510 [04:39] <presto5> Oder da steht Java funktioniert nicht mehr
#511 [04:39] <presto5> Und es wird immer ein Textdokument erstellt wenn es abstürzt
#512 [04:40] <TheNoodle> Kopieren Inhalt des Dokuments hier: http://pastebin.com
#513 [04:41] <TheNoodle> Wenn Sie verstehen nicht, sagen Sie einfach.
#514 [04:42] <TheNoodle> poor but sorta usable language skills!
#515 [04:42] <presto5> http://pastebin.com/h4Uydcbs
#516 [04:44] <Wug> TheNoodle: looks like either graphics drivers or memory
#517 [04:44] <TheNoodle> Mmhm.
#518 [04:45] <TheNoodle> Don't want to translate the dxdiag factoid >.>
#519 [04:46] <TheNoodle> Tun Sie, was voxelhead wenn man spricht.
#520 [04:46] <TheNoodle> ??> presto5 win/dxdiag
#521 [04:46] <VoxelHead> presto5: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#522 [04:46] <VoxelHead> presto5: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#523 [04:47] <TheNoodle> Wenn Sie nicht verstehen kann, habe ich vielleicht übersetzen.
#524 [04:47] * mib_l8efo1 [mib_l8efo1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#525 [04:47] <mib_l8efo1> hi
#526 [04:47] <TheNoodle> Hello.
#527 [04:47] <mib_l8efo1> i need help
#528 [04:48] <TheNoodle> Of course, what with?
#529 [04:48] <mau5ie> lol
#530 [04:48] <mib_l8efo1> i cant load the file for the game
#531 [04:48] <mib_l8efo1> :(
#532 [04:48] <TheNoodle> presto5, Sie verstehen meine sprechen?
#533 [04:48] <TheNoodle> mib_l8efo1, what issues do you have loading 'the file'?
#534 [04:48] <presto5> Thenoodle yes, but i need to wait because its loading
#535 [04:49] <TheNoodle> Fair enough, should I be speaking english or german?
#536 [04:49] <mib_l8efo1> i keep trying to load the file for the game but it doesnt work
#537 [04:49] <TheNoodle> mib_l8efo1, so you're double clicking on minecraft.exe and nothing is happening?
#538 [04:50] <mib_l8efo1> no im playing classic and im trying to load the file so that i can continue building
#539 [04:50] <presto5> TheNoddle here
#540 [04:50] <presto5> http://pastebin.com/JrsimyfU
#541 [04:51] <mib_l8efo1> what should i do?
#542 [04:52] <mau5ie> Buy the game and come back? :|
#543 [04:52] <[AJ]> mib, not being able to load the file... can you explain in detail what the 'file' is?
#544 [04:52] <TheNoodle> presto5, download and install this. http://www.nvidia.de/object/notebook-win7-winvista-280.26-whql-driver-de.html
#545 [04:53] <[AJ]> What you're trying to do and what's happening as a result of that?
#546 [04:53] <presto5> ok
#547 [04:54] <mib_l8efo1> i log in, i click classic single player, then i press the escape button, click load level, then load file, open the file but nothing happens
#548 [04:55] <mib_l8efo1> so what's the problem here?
#549 [04:56] <mib_l8efo1> hello? anyone?
#550 [04:56] <[AJ]> Is it a black screen
#551 [04:56] <[AJ]> does minecraft close
#552 [04:56] <[AJ]> What does the screen say? What do you mean when you say 'nothing happens'?
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#554 [04:57] <[AJ]> mib_l8efo1: ?
#555 [04:57] <mib_l8efo1> no minecraft opens, as usual with a random place, then i try to load the file by i cant
#556 [04:57] <[AJ]> So it's a savegame you can't load?
#557 [04:57] <mib_l8efo1> yes
#558 [04:57] <[AJ]> What version of minecraft are you using?
#559 [05:00] <mib_l8efo1> what what version?
#560 [05:00] <[AJ]> The version of minecraft, what version of minecraft are you using
#561 [05:00] <mib_l8efo1> as in premium or not?
#562 [05:01] <[AJ]> What do you mean premium, do you own the game legally? Did you BUY minecraft?
#563 [05:01] <mau5ie> No. He didn't.
#564 [05:01] <[AJ]> bah
#565 [05:01] <mib_l8efo1> then?
#566 [05:01] <mau5ie> "mib_l8efo1: no im playing classic and im trying to load the file so that i can continue building"
#567 [05:01] <mau5ie> As I suggested...
#568 [05:02] <mib_l8efo1> no i didnt buy the game
#569 [05:03] <[AJ]> mib_l8efo1: http://www.minecraft.net/store
#570 [05:03] <[AJ]> That'll most likely solve your problems, and get you real support
#571 [05:03] <[AJ]> x]
#572 [05:04] <Wug> mib_l8efo1: classic is really hard to troubleshoot
#573 [05:04] <Wug> can you make a different world or does that not work
#574 [05:04] <mib_l8efo1> oh i dunno
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#576 [05:10] <mau5ie> Lrn2buythedamngame
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#581 [05:17] <presto5> TheNoodle?
#582 [05:17] <TheNoodle> Yes?
#583 [05:17] <presto5> In the installation i got a problem
#584 [05:17] <presto5> The installation process encountered an error
#585 [05:18] <presto5> Sorry i know im bad in english-.-
#586 [05:18] <TheNoodle> What error?
#587 [05:18] <presto5> I dont know
#588 [05:18] <presto5> But i cant load the graphic
#589 [05:19] <presto5> Wait i try it again
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#591 [05:19] <TheNoodle> Ah, it just says encountered an error?
#592 [05:19] <presto5> yes
#593 [05:19] <TheNoodle> Is your system in german or english?
#594 [05:19] <presto5> german
#595 [05:20] <TheNoodle> Hmmm
#596 [05:20] <presto5> I try it again ok?
#597 [05:20] <TheNoodle> Sure
#598 [05:20] <TheNoodle> Anyone have any thoughts? presto5 is attempting to install video drivers from the nvidia website for his card, both the drivers and his system are in german.
#599 [05:21] <presto5> No the nvidia website is german
#600 [05:21] <presto5> I just have translate it
#601 [05:22] <presto5> Na i have try it-.-
#602 [05:22] <TheNoodle> I linked you to the german version of the driver for a reason :P
#603 [05:22] <presto5> I know^^
#604 [05:22] <presto5> And the error is in german :D
#605 [05:22] <presto5> But i tried to translate it for you
#606 [05:23] <presto5> Its in german
#607 [05:23] <presto5> Beim installations vorgang ist ein Fehler aufgetreten
#608 [05:23] <TheNoodle> I'm not sure what to do at this point, which is why I'm asking anyone lurking in the channel :P
#609 [05:24] <presto5> First i try it again
#610 [05:30] <Sardonicus> hehe
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#612 [05:37] <Sardonicus> is it even that important to install the german version...
#613 [05:37] <guest-0-43688> hi its me from last night ive updated everything on my computer and still the game freezes after about 10 minutes of play still
#614 [05:37] <Sardonicus> only the language in the menus different
#615 [05:38] <TheNoodle> That's why I gave him that version...
#616 [05:38] <Sardonicus> but it's not related to the error at the installation process
#617 [05:38] <[AJ]> guest-0-43688: freezes as in... crash to desktop? Black screen?
#618 [05:39] <[AJ]> Or just <=1 fps
#619 [05:39] <guest-0-43688> no black screen just the game shuts down says something about it conflicting with java
#620 [05:39] <[AJ]> Have you tried uninstalling java and reinstalling the latest version? Have you modded it at all?
#621 [05:39] <[AJ]> Do you have at least 512Mb of RAM (reasonable number I'd say)
#622 [05:40] <[AJ]> And if it is the black screen, can you pastebin the error?
#623 [05:40] <guest-0-43688> ive got 4gb ram i think and i have tried uninstalling and reinstalling java
#624 [05:40] <[AJ]> from what java version to what java version?
#625 [05:41] <guest-0-43688> how do i check that
#626 [05:41] <[AJ]> using what minecraft version
#627 [05:41] <[AJ]> Easiest way is to go to your program installation folder
#628 [05:41] <[AJ]> but if you can, link me the error
#629 [05:41] <[AJ]> get a quick screenshot or copy paste (IN a pastebin sort of link)
#630 [05:42] <guest-0-43688> there no link thing it just says windows is finding a solution to the problem
#631 [05:42] <[AJ]> Can you click the dropdown to that error and link us that?
#632 [05:42] <guest-0-43688> its java 6 update 27
#633 [05:42] <[AJ]> alright
#634 [05:42] <[AJ]> no mods?
#635 [05:42] <guest-0-43688> what are mods?
#636 [05:43] <[AJ]> I'm assuming you're not then
#637 [05:43] <guest-0-43688> nope lol
#638 [05:43] <[AJ]> Does the same thing happen if you're creating a new world?
#639 [05:43] <guest-0-43688> ive created new worlds and it happens on every one i do
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#641 [05:43] <Lykke> Anyonw know a good place to find premade maps? Not adventuremaps.. Just normal, premade maps to explorer and get ideas from
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#643 [05:44] <[AJ]> Lykke: try digital diamonds newsfeed: minecraftforums.net
#644 [05:44] <[AJ]> They post quite a few
#645 [05:44] <Lykke> Thank you, i will! :)
#646 [05:44] <[AJ]> guest-0-43688: Can you at least tell us the error windows is referring to when that dialogue shows up?
#647 [05:44] <[AJ]> Lykke: no problem :D
#648 [05:45] <guest-0-43688> ive got it running now when it happens ill tell you
#649 [05:45] <[AJ]> sure. :)
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#651 [05:46] <guest-0-43688> it happens at random times longest the game lasted for was about 2 hours
#652 [05:47] <guest-0-43688> ok here it is
#653 [05:47] <guest-0-43688> java(tm) platform SE binary has stopped working
#654 [05:48] <guest-0-43688> a problem caused the program to stop working correctly windows will close the program and notify if a solution is available
#655 [05:48] <guest-0-43688> thats all i get
#656 [05:48] <lemon-rev> guest can you remove java and reinstall it
#657 [05:48] <guest-0-43688> done it 5 times
#658 [05:48] <lemon-rev> ok
#659 [05:48] <lemon-rev> then
#660 [05:49] <lemon-rev> ??> guest-0-43688 win/reinst
#661 [05:49] <VoxelHead> guest-0-43688: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#662 [05:49] <VoxelHead> guest-0-43688: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#663 [05:49] <lemon-rev> how about that ?
#664 [05:49] <presto5> TheNoodle this time it have works
#665 [05:49] <presto5> work*
#666 [05:49] <TheNoodle> That's good presto5.
#667 [05:51] <TheNoodle> \o/
#668 [05:51] <TheNoodle> Random voice ^_^
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#670 [05:55] * lemon-rev is never random just a voice that appears :P
#670 [05:55] <TheNoodle> lol
#671 [05:57] * lemon-rev i dont know what it is about lava pits way down in depths of below that i love digging around them and seeing how huge the f'ers are :)
#671 [05:58] <TheNoodle> http://macromeme.com/cat/best-llama.gif
#672 [05:58] <lemon-rev> thats me eating lunch what of it :P
#673 [05:58] <TheNoodle> lol
#674 [05:59] <lemon-rev> that was too good to not say :)
#675 [05:59] <presto5> Thenoodle but the problem is not fixed :S
#676 [05:59] <TheNoodle> ;+ llama http://macromeme.com/cat/best-llama.gif
#677 [05:59] <WugBot> Done.
#678 [06:00] <lemon-rev> eewww now its loading soo slow :(
#679 [06:01] <TheNoodle> Okay lemon, a question for you. After a few minutes of gameplay presto5's game crashes and leaves a log file. We've updated his video card drivers.
#680 [06:01] <TheNoodle> One sec and I'll get a coyp of the error and his dxdiag.
#681 [06:01] <lemon-rev> ok
#682 [06:01] <TheNoodle> Error: http://pastebin.com/h4Uydcbs
#683 [06:01] <TheNoodle> DXDiag: http://pastebin.com/JrsimyfU
#684 [06:02] <lemon-rev> System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard < well theres the first problem stright off the mark but ill keep looking
#685 [06:02] <TheNoodle> lol
#686 [06:02] <lemon-rev> so hes got 2011 drivers now ?
#687 [06:03] <lemon-rev> im gathering this is the first dxdiag he did for you before you updated hes video drivers ?
#688 [06:04] <TheNoodle> Yep
#689 [06:04] <lemon-rev> ok has he reinstalled mc ?
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#692 [06:07] <TheNoodle> Not yet, can't remember the vox factoid for it >.>
#693 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> for?
#694 [06:07] <lemon-rev> ??> win/reinst
#695 [06:08] <lemon-rev> that :)
#696 [06:08] <presto5> Here the new Dxdiag
#697 [06:08] <presto5> http://pastebin.com/KpWbqGid
#698 [06:09] <lemon-rev> hey GreyVulpine thenoodle trying to work with this guy trying to work out why new video drivers and not too shaby video card still giving nt dll file error even after full update and java as well
#699 [06:09] <TheNoodle> Summary!
#700 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> What error?
#701 [06:11] <lemon-rev> Error: http://pastebin.com/h4Uydcbs
#702 [06:11] * lemon-rev is not mine
#702 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> That's either java or video drivers
#703 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> I'm betting java
#704 [06:12] <lemon-rev> or minecraft in general
#705 [06:12] <lemon-rev> ??> presto5 win/reinst
#706 [06:12] <VoxelHead> presto5: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#707 [06:12] <VoxelHead> presto5: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#708 [06:12] <GreyVulpine> Usually isn't minecraft
#709 [06:13] <TheNoodle> Should update java anyway, 6.0_26-b03
#710 [06:13] <lemon-rev> well im thinking if its not java since he thinks hes done it about 5 times
#711 [06:13] <GreyVulpine> I'm betting it's java
#712 [06:13] <TheNoodle> He can't have done it five times, java would be up to date.
#713 [06:14] <TheNoodle> :P
#714 [06:15] <lemon-rev> lol
#715 [06:16] <lemon-rev> if not its sound
#716 [06:16] <lemon-rev> :P
#717 [06:16] <lemon-rev> but grey is prob most likely right :)
#718 [06:16] <[AJ]> It ain't like you're trying to juice an elephant made of bananas... right?
#719 [06:16] <lemon-rev> not sure atm
#720 [06:17] <[AJ]> http://java.com/en/download/help/java_update.xml
#721 [06:17] <[AJ]> Can always try that.
#722 [06:21] <presto5> My java is 6.27
#723 [06:21] <presto5> And now i have deleted my minecraft files.
#724 [06:21] <TheNoodle> Could you run the game until it crashes and provide the new error report please?
#725 [06:30] * |Kiikun|Janus| starts building a pie-a-pult
#725 [06:31] * |Kiikun|Janus| aims for TheNoodle
#725 [06:32] * TheNoodle ducks
#725 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> http://ghostfire.deviantart.com/art/Not-Enough-Torches-262369350
#726 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Neat.
#727 [06:34] <|Kiikun|Janus|> i got wallpaper :P
#728 [06:34] <lemon-rev> hows one to craft arrows now theres hardly any chickens now :(
#729 [06:34] <|Kiikun|Janus|> i alos like the chibis
#730 [06:35] <lemon-rev> thats sweeet
#731 [06:35] <TheNoodle> I suddenly don't want to play minecraft... :/
#732 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> http://i.imgur.com/VUVCi.png
#733 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> Enchantments look to be going along nicely
#734 [06:37] <lemon-rev> lol smite 2 lol, whats that like smacking someone with a fish ?
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#736 [06:38] <guest-0-26011> ok i was playing my game when it said it run out of memory because im running it from a browser ive clicked download but it still runs from browser how do i download it to play offline?
#737 [06:38] <[AJ]> Do you own the game?
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#740 [06:39] <guest-0-26011> yes
#741 [06:39] <[AJ]> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#742 [06:39] <[AJ]> "Place it anywhere you want, then run it"
#743 [06:39] <guest-0-26011> ye ive done that but when i save the file its still runs from browser
#744 [06:39] <[AJ]> If you want to see where it's downloaded to
#745 [06:39] <[AJ]> Try this
#746 [06:40] <[AJ]> hit winkey + r
#747 [06:40] <[AJ]> type %AppData%
#748 [06:40] <[AJ]> At the very top of the list it should say .minecraft
#749 [06:40] <[AJ]> if it's there, it's not running out of the browser
#750 [06:40] <guest-0-26011> it is there
#751 [06:40] <SinZ> browser and client use same files....
#752 [06:40] <TheNoodle> How do you mean running in browser?
#753 [06:40] <[AJ]> Do they?
#754 [06:41] <TheNoodle> They do.
#755 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#756 [06:41] <[AJ]> Well, either way
#757 [06:41] <[AJ]> It's there.
#758 [06:41] <[AJ]> lol
#759 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> What guest-0-26011 wants to know is, where did he download the client to?
#760 [06:41] <guest-0-26011> so how do i dedicate more memory to allow me to play the game
#761 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> That, is up to where the browser downloads its files to
#762 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-26011 - What operating system are you on?
#763 [06:41] <guest-0-26011> windows 7
#764 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> 32 or 64 bit?
#765 [06:42] <guest-0-26011> 64
#766 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> Try uninstalling java completely from your system, and install only the 64 bit version of java
#767 [06:42] <guest-0-26011> thats what i have
#768 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> You sure about that?
#769 [06:42] <guest-0-26011> 100%
#770 [06:44] <guest-0-26011> ive got 890gb of memory and only 120gb is being used
#771 [06:44] * TheNoodle giggles
#771 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> That's hard drive space, not memory
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#773 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Memory is RAM. It is not your hard drive
#774 [06:45] <guest-0-26011> well i no nothing about computers lol
#775 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Then how are you 100% sure you have 64 bit windows 7 with 64 bit java installed?
#776 [06:45] <guest-0-26011> because thrae got me to do all that yesterday checking the systems updates and installs
#777 [06:46] <guest-0-26011> how do i check the ram
#778 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Press ctrl-shift-esc to bring up your task manager. Go to the performance tab
#779 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> What is listed under physical memory?
#780 [06:48] <guest-0-26011> total 4095 cached 1582 available 2196 free 673
#781 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> You have 4 gigs of RAM total, 673 megs of which is free
#782 [06:50] <guest-0-26011> so i should have enough for minecraft to not tell me i dont have enough
#783 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> 4 gigs should be enough. Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#784 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> at the black command prompt that opens, please type in: java -version
#785 [06:51] <guest-0-26011> ok
#786 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> You can right click in the window, choose "mark" then click and drag a box around the text to copy it
#787 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> What does it say?
#788 [06:52] <guest-0-26011> C:\Users\USER>java -version
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#790 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> below that?
#791 [06:53] <guest-0-26011> not regognized
#792 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Oi, alright... java's not recognized in your environment variables.
#793 [06:54] <guest-0-26011> computers hurting my head lol all i want to do is build a huge castle lol
#794 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Could you close that cmd prompt, go to your start menu, and your Computer. Go to the C:\ drive, then your program files (x86) folder.
#795 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a java folder there?
#796 [06:54] <guest-0-26011> yep its there
#797 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> Alright, go back up one level, back to your C:\ drive. Look for program files without the (x86), do you see a java folder there?
#798 [06:55] <guest-0-26011> no nothing there
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#800 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> That would be why then. You only have 32 bit java installed on your 64 bit OS.
#801 [06:56] <guest-0-26011> CURSE MY INFERNAL PATHETIC COMPUTING WAYS :P
#802 [06:56] <GreyVulpine> Try my previous suggestion. Uninstall all java from your system, using your windows control panel. Install only the 64 bit java from http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#803 [06:56] <guest-0-26011> so ive installed java like 6 times how do i get the right version
#804 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> You can feel free to install 32 bit java on top that when you're done, if you'd like.
#805 [06:57] <guest-0-26011> what differance does it make?
#806 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> 64 bit java can address more memory
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#809 [06:59] <guest-0-44856> java guy back again lol uninstalling closes the browsers
#810 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> Yes it does
#811 [07:00] <guest-0-44856> why would i need both java's installed?
#812 [07:00] <Grolsch> is the update server down ?
#813 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> Grolsch - Shouldn't be..
#814 [07:00] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-26011 - 32 and 64 bit java are mutually exclusive, you can have both installed if you'd like. The 32 bit java is used in 32 bit browsers, and other applications
#815 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> Grolsch - Getting any errors when you log in?
#816 [07:01] <guest-0-44856> if i need it ill just install it at the time then
#817 [07:01] <Grolsch> i am trying to update a new download a minecraft but it keeps hanging betwine 0-15% ad the lwjgl.jar file
#818 [07:01] <Grolsch> ad the login is fine
#819 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> Grolsch - Don't suppose you're running AVG or mcafee?
#820 [07:02] <Grolsch> o yea avg
#821 [07:02] <GreyVulpine> AVG's been giving false positives on lwjgl.
#822 [07:02] <guest-0-44856> so how do i check that i got the right java now its installed?
#823 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-44856 - Run minecraft, see if you get the out of memory error
#824 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> Or just check c:\Program files\java, make sure java's there
#825 [07:03] <guest-0-44856> seems to be running ok
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#827 [07:04] <guest-0-44856> so it shouldnt happen again now
#828 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> Keep at it for a while, those out of memory errors sometime take a little bit of time
#829 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> If it doesn't pop up, you're good to go
#830 [07:04] <guest-0-44856> oh right ok thanks for the help :D
#831 [07:04] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#831 [07:05] <SinZ> GreyVulpine, not for me (AVG)
#832 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> SinZ - We've had quite a few reports of both avg and mcafee stopping minecraft.exe as well as lwjgl in the downloader
#833 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> Are you running the free version of AVG, or the paid for suite?
#834 [07:06] <SinZ> free
#835 [07:06] <Grolsch> i am the free one
#836 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, so has many others that have had problems
#837 [07:06] <Grolsch> i am trying to ad minecraft to the exeptions in avg
#838 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> Grolsch - Would you be willing to disable the AV protection for a short length of time, just to get minecraft to download those?
#839 [07:06] <Lewism> Hey, I cant get the game to run in browser or through the launcher, im just stuck on a screen saying "downloading packages" for more than 10 mins each try, can anyone help
#840 [07:07] <GreyVulpine> Lewism - How far in "downloading packages" do you get?
#841 [07:07] <Lewism> not very, less than an inch of the green loading bar
#842 [07:07] <GreyVulpine> Lewism - Has it ever worked before? What operating system are you on?
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#844 [07:08] <Lewism> no this is my first attempt and its windows 7, when running in browser im using chrome
#845 [07:08] <GreyVulpine> Lewism - Strange question. Does your windows username happen to contain a ! mark in it?
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#848 [07:09] <Lewism> no its all letters
#849 [07:09] <Grolsch> lewism which which virus scanner do you use
#850 [07:10] <Lewism> norton
#851 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> Lewism - When you pull up minecraft in your browser, do you see a white coffee cup icon in your system tray?
#852 [07:10] <GreyVulpine> If you do, please pull it up, and go to the java console.
#853 [07:11] <Lewism> there was, requesting a java update, ive updated but still not working
#854 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> I'm specifically looking for the java console itself, when minecraft is trying to load
#855 [07:11] <Lewism> ok ill look, 2 mins
#856 [07:11] <GreyVulpine> There may be text in there which may have a clue as to why it's doing it.
#857 [07:12] <Grolsch> thx grey it workt :)
#858 [07:12] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#858 [07:13] <Grolsch> i needed to find the setting where temporarily dable avg protection is located
#859 [07:13] <Lewism> no theres no coffee cup icon anywhere now
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#861 [07:13] <GreyVulpine> Lewism - Do you have minecraft being loaded in chrome right now?
#862 [07:14] <LordHymengrinder> Hey there, was wondering if I could get some help with a multiplayer server issue?
#863 [07:14] <Lewism> yeah im trying it again now, just sitting on downloading packages again
#864 [07:14] <GreyVulpine> LordHymengrinder - Depends on the issue, can you elaborate?
#865 [07:15] <LordHymengrinder> Yes, i'm trying to connect to a friends multiplayer server that i've connected to before, and i'm getting the message
#866 [07:15] <LordHymengrinder> Connection refused: Connect
#867 [07:15] <Grolsch> to get my old map back what is the easy way to do that; i got my old .minecraft folder in a backup rar file ??
#868 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> LordHymengrinder - Means either the server's not running, it's down, or you're entering the wrong IP
#869 [07:15] <LordHymengrinder> And on the multiplayer server screen it simply says "Ca't reach Server"
#870 [07:15] <LordHymengrinder> I'm currently on vent with some friends who are in the server.
#871 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> LordHymengrinder - IP?
#872 [07:15] <LordHymengrinder> And i'v verified the server address and port with them.
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#874 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> Grolsch - You can just replace the .minecraft folder with your backup
#875 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> More specifically, the saves folder inside
#876 [07:16] <LordHymengrinder> sc13.servercraft.co:5748
#877 [07:16] <Grolsch> k
#878 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> !check sc13.servercraft.co:5748
#879 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> Aubot does not see a server at that particular address
#880 [07:17] <LordHymengrinder> Oh wait, my IP? XD
#881 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> Erm, who is hosting the server LordHymengrinder?
#882 [07:17] <LordHymengrinder> Servercraft, a company. As for the person, a friend of a friend.
#883 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> LordHymengrinder - Well, I had aubot check "sc13.servercraft.co:5748", there is no server running at that address
#884 [07:18] <LordHymengrinder> Haha, that's strange.
#885 [07:18] <Jacers> im on it ><
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#887 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> !check sc13.servercraft.co:5748
#888 [07:18] <LordHymengrinder> This is my friend Jacers, who is currently on the server.
#889 [07:18] <Jacers> whaaaat
#890 [07:18] <Jacers> so strange
#891 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> I'm unable to connect to it as well
#892 [07:19] <Jacers> omg
#893 [07:19] <Jacers> lets all stop
#894 [07:19] <Grolsch> what wil happen if i try to open a map that got mods in it but the current installed minecraft not ?
#895 [07:19] <Jacers> its 5487
#896 [07:19] <Jacers> ><
#897 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> Grolsch - Minecraft will likely crash
#898 [07:19] <Grolsch> k
#899 [07:19] <Jacers> !check sc13.servercraft.co:5487
#900 [07:19] <LordHymengrinder> You son of a bitch Jacers
#901 [07:19] <Jacers> oh god
#902 [07:19] * GreyVulpine snrks
#902 [07:19] <Jacers> im so dumb
#903 [07:19] <LordHymengrinder> He gave me the wrong port
#904 [07:19] <LordHymengrinder> Thanks for the help though grey.
#905 [07:19] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#905 [07:19] <Jacers> danke
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#913 [07:47] <JanTTuX> umm help?
#914 [07:48] <TheNoodle> What's up?
#915 [07:48] <JanTTuX> my minecraft is using 100% cpu like 1200000kt
#916 [07:48] <JanTTuX> idk how to fix it my friend got it somehow fixeed
#917 [07:48] <JanTTuX> if gta iv runs in this computer fine but minecraft doesnt then whats problem?
#918 [07:49] <JanTTuX> so?
#919 [07:49] <JanTTuX> help
#920 [07:51] <TheNoodle> Operating system?
#921 [07:52] <JanTTuX> umm
#922 [07:52] <JanTTuX> windows 7 home premium
#923 [07:53] <JanTTuX> ACER ASPIRE 5741G
#924 [07:53] <JanTTuX> Intel core i3-350M processor
#925 [07:53] <JanTTuX> 4gb ddr3 memory
#926 [07:53] <JanTTuX> :P
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#928 [07:56] <mib_oa4jhm> hallo ich brauche hilfe wegen meines minecraft servers
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#932 [08:02] <JanTTuX> so...
#933 [08:10] <JohnEBH> JanTTuX- that's pretty normal on your proc. I blame 1.8 for high CPU use.
#934 [08:12] <JanTTuX> ok
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#936 [08:13] <JanTTuX> see ya
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#939 [08:31] <morph> hello
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#941 [08:31] <TheNoodle> Hello morph.
#942 [08:32] <morph> i go onto minecraft launcher and type in my username and password (it cant connect) and i want to play offline but it says i have to play online once to play offline
#943 [08:33] * |Kiichan|Schala| [|Kiichan|Schala|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#944 [08:33] <TheNoodle> You do.
#945 [08:33] <Kealper> uh-oh
#946 [08:33] <Kealper> i'm bored enough to make the mchelp module of aubot use nickserv accounts
#947 [08:33] <TheNoodle> You have to log in once to download the game before you can play offline, the client you downloaded from minecraft.net downloads the launcher.
#948 [08:34] <TheNoodle> ^_^
#949 [08:34] <TheNoodle> Why not get aubot to find anti virus programs from a tasklist?
#950 [08:34] <Kealper> wat
#951 [08:34] <morph> but i have copyed my minecraft off my friends computer and i think its an older version
#952 [08:35] <TheNoodle> What is your account name morph?
#953 [08:35] <morph> morphmonster
#954 [08:35] <TheNoodle> !paid morphmonster
#955 [08:35] <TheNoodle> Have you bought minecraft?
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#957 [08:36] <morph> no i copyed minecraft off my friends account and i think its an older version
#958 [08:36] <TheNoodle> !kick morph You need to buy minecraft before you can play it
#959 [08:36] * AuBot kicked morph from #minecrafthelp (Reason: orph :Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by TheNoodle with reason: You need to buy minecraft before you can play it))
#960 [08:36] <TheNoodle> aubot \o/
#961 [08:37] <TheNoodle> Anyway, Kealper, occasionaly people have no clue what antivirus program they're using, my thought was that aubot could search through a tasklist and pick out common av image names.
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#963 [08:38] <Kealper> get me a list of process names of the common AVs and i'll make that lol
#964 [08:38] <Princeps> Haaaaaai, iiiitz meeee... Missingtex guy
#965 [08:38] <Princeps> It kinda seems, that I found a fix 0.o
#966 [08:39] <Princeps> I logged in with guest user, and yesterday, and today the game runs nicely. Even with buildcraft
#967 [08:39] <TheNoodle> Sounds good, to the internet!
#968 [08:40] <JohnEBH> Just means you had things running in your normal user that you don't in the guest user.
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#970 [08:45] <wibbit> okay,
#971 [08:45] <wibbit> so can anyone help me with the Hs_err_pid minecraft error?
#972 [08:45] <JohnEBH> Pastebin it
#973 [08:45] <JohnEBH> ??> wibbit pastebin
#974 [08:45] <VoxelHead> wibbit: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#980 [09:02] <DarkKnight> hello
#981 [09:03] <DarkKnight> can someone help me i have a realy big problem
#982 [09:03] <JohnEBH> ?? ask
#983 [09:03] <Juze> Tell us your problem so we may be able to help
#984 [09:03] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#985 [09:03] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#986 [09:04] <DarkKnight> my E-mail account was hacked and the hacker changed my minecraft password what can i do?
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#988 [09:05] <TheNoodle> Have you regained access to the email account?
#989 [09:05] <DarkKnight> no it was a @live.de e-mail, maybe you know it as live.com or hotmail, they give a fuck to theyre customers, they dont support
#990 [09:05] * AuBot kicked DarkKnight from #minecrafthelp (Reason: arkKnight :Please keep it civil.)
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#992 [09:06] <DarkKnight> ooops
#993 [09:06] <DarkKnight> sry
#994 [09:06] <TheNoodle> lolled.
#995 [09:06] <TheNoodle> Okay, well since you don't have access to the email account any more you'll need to provide proof of purchase.
#996 [09:07] <DarkKnight> no i dont have it was a hotmail.com e-mail and they dont support or maybe the support is verry bad
#997 [09:07] <DarkKnight> hmmm i know the old password old account name e-mail and i know the account of a person that i bought the game
#998 [09:07] <TheNoodle> This can normally be done using a copy of the paypal transaction from when you payed for the game.
#999 [09:08] <DarkKnight> he is listed in my profile
#1000 [09:08] <DarkKnight> omg i dont know if it exist i bougt in in alpha
#1001 [09:08] <TheNoodle> Without a proof of payment your account probably won't be recovered.
#1002 [09:08] <DarkKnight> if i have a proof what should i do with it?
#1003 [09:09] <TheNoodle> Send it to support@mojang.com including all the details you can provide.
#1004 [09:09] <DarkKnight> ok thanks
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#1006 [09:09] <TheNoodle> And you gert a proof of payment whenever you make a payment, including in alpha.
#1007 [09:09] <TheNoodle> Anything else I can help you with today?
#1008 [09:10] <DarkKnight> how long should a answer take?
#1009 [09:10] <TheNoodle> It depends.
#1010 [09:10] <TheNoodle> There has been times when there is an 80 000 email backlog.
#1011 [09:11] <DarkKnight> okay thank you
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#1014 [09:17] <Kealper> ok, i think i've got the mchelp module converted over....
#1015 [09:18] <Kealper> !unload mod_exec
#1016 [09:18] <Kealper> !unload mod_mchelp
#1017 [09:18] <Kealper> compiled without any errors :o
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#1020 [09:23] <Kealper> !load mod_mchelp
#1021 [09:23] <Kealper> !load mod_exec
#1022 [09:23] <asnoehu> !dl super secret nightply prerelease 4 1.9 beta
#1023 [09:23] <Kealper> D:
#1024 [09:23] <Kealper> now....to see if these changes worked...
#1025 [09:24] <Kealper> !disable
#1026 [09:24] <Kealper> \o/
#1027 [09:24] <Kealper> go die, vox
#1028 [09:24] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxjiQoTp864
#1028 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmXucvnF2Ek
#1029 [09:25] <Kealper> that screen makes me jealous
#1030 [09:25] <GreyVulpine> I want to play minecraft on that screen...
#1031 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> 1st video's pretty neat, 2nd video.. man.
#1032 [09:26] <Kealper> wait....
#1033 [09:26] <Kealper> wat
#1034 [09:26] <Kealper> that video... mind = blown
#1035 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> Unblurring pictures
#1036 [09:26] <GreyVulpine> 2nd one will 'splode your brainbits
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#1038 [09:27] <Flotwell> hello
#1039 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#1040 [09:28] <Flotwell> got a question - i registered and bought minecraft about 1 hour ago - and when i want to connect it says that i m still no premium user.. is that normal?
#1041 [09:28] <Hisui_> I'd like to change some sounds in the game. I've found a mod that lets you do that, but it's for 1.9 pre2. How do I get it to work?
#1042 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Can take upwards of several hours for the transaction to go through
#1043 [09:28] <GreyVulpine> Not uncommon
#1044 [09:28] <Flotwell> ahh ok
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#1046 [09:29] <Flotwell> so i dont have to worry about that the transaction failed or something
#1047 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> Hisui_ - Firstly, we don't support any buggy pre-releases here, second, you can find help for the mod from their particular forum post or whereever it's posted
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#1049 [09:29] <Kealper> GreyVulpine: that second video.....holy crap....
#1050 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> Kealper - I know!
#1051 [09:30] <asnoehu> the link provided by autobot is broken: http://www.minecraftirc.net/rules/minecrafthelp
#1052 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> This almost beats the CS5 feature of adaptive photo manipulation.
#1053 [09:31] <Kealper> !enable
#1054 [09:31] <Kealper> so anyways
#1055 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Oh, um.
#1056 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Update aubot to point to goo.gl/bmDxr
#1057 [09:31] <Kealper> that is now based on user nickserv accounts, i think...lol
#1058 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Or http://minecraftirc.net/thread-2.html
#1059 [09:31] <Kealper> oh, for the rules?
#1060 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
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#1062 [09:32] <Kealper> done
#1063 [09:32] <Kealper[Test]> !disable
#1064 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> !say !disable
#1065 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> !grey on
#1066 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> !say !disable
#1067 [09:33] <GreyBot> !disable
#1068 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> !disable
#1069 [09:33] <Kealper`> hmm...
#1070 [09:33] * Kealper pokes at code
#1070 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> !grey off
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#1072 [09:34] <Kealper> !disable
#1073 [09:34] <Kealper> !enable
#1074 [09:34] <Kealper> crap.
#1075 [09:34] <GreyVulpine> Stop breaking aubot!
#1076 [09:35] <Kealper> holy crap.....
#1077 [09:35] <Kealper> modules were crashing and restarting at like 6-8 times a second ._.
#1078 [09:38] <Juze> Skybots, how do they work?
#1079 [09:54] <TheNoodle> elv isn't a listed payment option :/
#1080 [09:55] <roc|Xenjy> its listed
#1081 [09:55] <Calinou> also, ONLY buy minecraft from minecraft.net
#1082 [09:55] <Calinou> other sites are very, very likely to be scams
#1083 [09:55] <roc|Xenjy> https://www.minecraft.net/store/game
#1084 [09:56] <TheNoodle> I see visa, master card, visa electron, american express, diner club, jcb, poli, moneybookers and paypal...
#1085 [09:57] <roc|Xenjy> i have 12 payment methodes here
#1086 [09:57] <roc|Xenjy> left side from top to bottom
#1087 [09:57] <roc|Xenjy> visa
#1088 [09:57] <roc|Xenjy> diner club
#1089 [09:58] <roc|Xenjy> ec elv
#1090 [09:58] <TheNoodle> Aha, country specific.
#1091 [09:58] <TheNoodle> Makes more sense now.
#1092 [09:58] <roc|Xenjy> mhh yea
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#1094 [10:02] <TheNoodle> Sorry about that roc|Xenjy, switched to germany and found it.
#1095 [10:02] <TheNoodle> My apologies if my earlier attitude put you off, it was meant in jest :P
#1096 [10:03] <TheNoodle> Either way, I'd suggest checking if a payment was made to Mojang AB
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#1098 [10:03] <Iridium> how do i edit who can spawn items?
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#1100 [10:05] <TheNoodle> You can type op username to give someone permission to spawn items and deop username to remove their ability to do so.
#1101 [10:05] <Iridium> any other ways?
#1102 [10:05] <Iridium> because i want my friend to be an op but not spawn items
#1103 [10:05] <TheNoodle> This command can also be performed in game via /op and /deop by someone already oped.
#1104 [10:05] <TheNoodle> So what operator powers do you want them to have?
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#1106 [10:06] <Iridium> all of them besides spawning items
#1107 [10:06] <Iridium> :P
#1108 [10:06] <TheNoodle> You realise that's pretty much teleporting and stopping the server right?
#1109 [10:07] <Iridium> oh
#1110 [10:07] <TheNoodle> What did you think it was?
#1111 [10:07] <TheNoodle> hmm
#1112 [10:08] <roc|Xenjy> Direct Debit
#1113 [10:08] <roc|Xenjy> Unfortunately we are unable to process this transaction. You may cancel your payment or choose another payment method.
#1114 [10:08] <TheNoodle> also, kickban and whitelist
#1115 [10:08] <TheNoodle> roc|Xenjy, is there a reason you cannot use paypal?
#1116 [10:08] <roc|Xenjy> yea
#1117 [10:08] <roc|Xenjy> ^^
#1118 [10:08] <Iridium> well i thought plugins like world edit and stuff would only work for ops
#1119 [10:08] <roc|Xenjy> when i wanna use paypal
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#1121 [10:08] <roc|Xenjy> its says to me it want to use giropay
#1122 [10:09] <TheNoodle> Iridium, the only way to achieve what you want is to install a permissions plugin like PermissionsEx
#1123 [10:09] <TheNoodle> roc|Xenjy, that's odd...
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#1125 [10:10] <roc|Xenjy> mhh isse
#1126 [10:10] <roc|Xenjy> see
#1127 [10:10] <roc|Xenjy> my paypal acc is not verifyed -.
#1128 [10:10] <TheNoodle> ah.
#1129 [10:10] <roc|Xenjy> wonder why i could pay about 5 years with it oO
#1130 [10:11] <TheNoodle> There are two options here, you can figure out a payment option yourself or send me the money on paypal and II'll buy it for you.
#1131 [10:12] <TheNoodle> I'm (sorta?) trusted here and a few people have purchased accounts through me.
#1132 [10:12] <mib_26m6n1> hs_err_pis(random numbers) pops up as a document everytime i load minecraft help?
#1133 [10:13] <mib_26m6n1> hs_err_pid(random numbers) pops up as a document everytime i load minecraft help?
#1134 [10:13] <TheNoodle> Put the contents of that file on http://pastebin.com
#1135 [10:15] <roc|Xenjy> i friend will send me gift code
#1136 [10:15] <mib_26m6n1> ok http://pastebin.com/zq5XWRBz
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#1139 [10:17] <TheNoodle> mib_26m6n1, follow voxelheads instructions.
#1140 [10:17] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_26m6n1 win/dxdiag
#1141 [10:17] <VoxelHead> mib_26m6n1: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1142 [10:17] <VoxelHead> mib_26m6n1: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#1149 [10:19] <TheNoodle> roc|Xenjy, sounds good.
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#1155 [10:21] <mib_26m6n1> http://pastebin.com/BRwMudvn
#1156 [10:21] <roc|Xenjy> thx for help bb
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#1160 [10:22] <mib_26m6n1> IRC channel?
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#1164 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> You're in an IRC channel
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#1169 [10:24] <mib_26m6n1> ah i see
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#1172 [10:25] <TheNoodle> mib_26m6n1, try installing this. http://goo.gl/wbgeZ
#1173 [10:25] <mib_26m6n1> ok thanks ill try now
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#1176 [10:26] <mib_26m6n1> Will this have any other affects on my laptop?
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#1178 [10:27] <TheNoodle> It's the latest graphics drivers for your laptop.
#1179 [10:27] <mib_26m6n1> ok thanks very much really helpful
#1180 [10:31] <mib_26m6n1> it said the driver being installed is not validated for this computer. Please obtain the appropriate driver from the computers manufacturer
#1181 [10:31] <TheNoodle> That is the driver :/
#1182 [10:31] * TheNoodle grumbles
#1182 [10:32] <TheNoodle> go to intel and get the driver :p
#1183 [10:32] <mib_26m6n1> ok how will i know which one it is?
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#1185 [10:35] <TheNoodle> Your dxdiag says you need the drivers for "Intel(R) HD Graphics"
#1186 [10:35] <mib_26m6n1> ok
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#1190 [10:46] <qolourz> Hey
#1191 [10:47] <TheNoodle> Hello qolourz.
#1192 [10:47] <qolourz> I need some help with a problem I have with my minecraft >.<
#1193 [10:48] <TheNoodle> That's what we're here for.
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#1195 [10:50] <Wug> TheNoodle: sometimes laptop manufacturers mandate THEIR VERSION of the driver
#1196 [10:50] <qolourz> Ok, when I start my launcher and log in, my screen just goes black and I get no reaction
#1197 [10:50] <Wug> which is stupid imo since it locks people out of getting cutting edge drivers
#1198 [10:50] <qolourz> I have tried re installing core files etc and updating / re installing java nad nothing seems to work
#1199 [10:51] <Wug> :ts/launcher > qolourz
#1200 [10:51] <WugBot> qolourz: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#1201 [10:51] <WugBot> qolourz: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#1202 [10:51] <Wug> qolourz: download and run that launcher, it will save a log file. upload the log to pastebin
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#1205 [10:55] <quiggle> I am unable to get the game to work on my computer - even after I've updated my video card. the error I keep getting is: Bad video card drivers! Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
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#1207 [10:57] <quiggle> is there any help please? I am unable to get the game to work on my computer - even after I've updated my video card. the error I keep getting is: Bad video card drivers! Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.
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#1211 [10:59] <Wug> quiggle: thats still a graphics driver error
#1212 [10:59] <Wug> do you know what graphics card you have
#1213 [11:00] <ceemko> hey guys is anyone here skilled with circuits?:)
#1214 [11:02] <quiggle> Mobile Intel 945GM Express Chipset version 6.14.10.4764
#1215 [11:03] <quiggle> its the most currernt version update as of 1hr ago
#1216 [11:03] <Wug> ceemko: not me
#1217 [11:03] <Wug> quiggle: is this on windows xp
#1218 [11:03] <quiggle> yes
#1219 [11:03] <Wug> or something else
#1220 [11:03] <Wug> loads of people have issues with the integrated intel chipsets
#1221 [11:04] <Wug> :tv > quiggle
#1222 [11:04] <WugBot> quiggle: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1223 [11:04] <WugBot> quiggle: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /pm user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1224 [11:04] <Wug> ^ follow these instructions, I'll try to fix it myself
#1225 [11:05] <TheNoodle> wug, http://minecraftirc.net/thread-5.html
#1226 [11:05] <TheNoodle> Not sure if it applies, but it came to mind.
#1227 [11:05] <Wug> my computer is like "y u no have free disk space"
#1228 [11:06] <Wug> everything is really slow :P
#1229 [11:06] <Wug> doctor who filled it up again
#1230 [11:06] <TheNoodle> tell it to stfu and watch dw.
#1231 [11:06] <Wug> I'm moving it to another partition as it downloads
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#1233 [11:06] <Wug> dc++ doesnt like changing locations mid download and I dont feel like redownloading 250GB
#1234 [11:07] <quiggle> thanks Wug for the offer - much appreciated. I had my computer guy do all kinds of test already. He said that I would need to upgrade my video card and software on my laptop to play on this computer.
#1235 [11:07] <quiggle> Is that really my only option?
#1236 [11:07] <Wug> quiggle: it would definitely be better on a discrete card
#1237 [11:07] <Wug> but I might be able to at least get it working
#1238 [11:08] <Wug> I'm fairly sure that it will at least run on that chipset
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#1240 [11:10] <blade023> hi guys, got a problem trying to run minecraft on ubuntu..
#1241 [11:11] <blade023> the launcher runs ok, and i can log in, but as soon as it starts to load, it just crashes with no error report (run from a terminal session)
#1242 [11:12] <blade023> that's the furthest i've managed to get with it, using a guide i found here.. timashley.me/node/596
#1243 [11:13] <blade023> so basically i downloaded the jmonkey java game engine, cos the normal one in the .minecraft folder caused loads of errors
#1244 [11:13] <blade023> anyone know what might be happening?
#1245 [11:14] <Wug> pastebin the errors
#1246 [11:15] <blade023> there are no errors, that's why i'm stumped, let me see if there are any logs or anything...
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#1249 [11:16] <blade023> no logs either that i can see
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#1251 [11:16] <blade023> does java have a verbose mode when run from bash?
#1252 [11:19] <Wug> use -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame instead of -jar minecraft.jar
#1253 [11:19] <Wug> remember file name is case sensitive
#1254 [11:19] <blade023> that's the command i use yes
#1255 [11:20] <blade023> otherwise it wouldn't open the launcher, it'd just say i can't find some class files (can't remember which but not important)
#1256 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin the entire terminal from where you tried to launch the file?
#1257 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> Include an ls of the directory
#1258 [11:22] <blade023> the most output i get from it is; "17 achievements... 161 recipies... setting user: ******" then a string of numbers
#1259 [11:22] <blade023> and what's this pastebin? u mean copy/paste?
#1260 [11:22] <TheNoodle> http://pastebin.com
#1261 [11:24] <blade023> http://pastebin.com/dkreJwgJ
#1262 [11:24] <blade023> that's neat
#1263 [11:24] <blade023> i checked the latest error log there, and there's nothing new in it, the last mod date on it is a few days ago (last time i tried to get mc working)
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#1265 [11:27] <blade023> any ideas grey?
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#1267 [11:31] <rymate1234> hai blade023
#1268 [11:31] <rymate1234> whats ur problem?
#1269 [11:31] <blade023> hi, mc keeps crashing on ubuntu, but there's no error or anything. gets past the log in at the loader, then quits
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#1271 [11:32] <RobinJ24> The king has arrived
#1272 [11:32] <rymate1234> <blade023> so basically i downloaded the jmonkey java game engine, cos the normal one in the .minecraft folder caused loads of errors
#1273 [11:32] <rymate1234> Whats this jmonkey java game engine
#1274 [11:32] <blade023> i'm using jinput from jmonkey engine, and a few others, because the origional ones gave loads of errors
#1275 [11:32] <blade023> lemme find the guid link again..
#1276 [11:33] <blade023> http://timashley.me/node/596
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#1278 [11:33] <guacamole> Can I buy minecraft with mastercard?
#1279 [11:34] <rymate1234> blade023: why do you have to use this jmonkey?
#1280 [11:34] <blade023> i follow that guide, but using the right command to launch... java -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1281 [11:34] <rymate1234> I use ubuntu and I haven't had to use no jmoney
#1282 [11:34] <rymate1234> *jmonkey
#1283 [11:34] <blade023> tonnes of errors origionally, complaining about the files that jmonkey replaces
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#1285 [11:34] <blade023> i assume, origional sun java stuff or w/e
#1286 [11:34] <guacamole> Is it possible to buy minecraft with mastercard?
#1287 [11:35] <rymate1234> guacamole: I believe so
#1288 [11:35] <guacamole> I got a message that my card was disabled for 24 hours
#1289 [11:36] <guacamole> I tried a vanilla prepaid visa with the same result
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#1291 [11:39] <rymate1234> blade023: maybe reinstall minecraft? Because minecraft works fine on linux with just the default files minecraft downloads
#1292 [11:40] <rymate1234> are you tryign to play classic or beta?
#1293 [11:40] <blade023> beta, and i tried doing that but it didn't run fine... i'll reinstall and try to run it, and tell you exactly what it says...
#1294 [11:43] <rymate1234> this is how I launch minecraft
#1295 [11:43] <rymate1234> java -Xincgc -Xmx1536M -jar "minecraft.jar"
#1296 [11:43] <rymate1234> :D
#1297 [11:44] <blade023> http://pastebin.com/XPC7wdmh
#1298 [11:44] <blade023> that's what happens, and it just sits there.. which makes me think that has something to do with the java control doodads (or interfaces or whatever)
#1299 [11:45] <blade023> i've googled it for 2 days straight and can't seem to find anything else, just about trying it with the replacement lwjgl files from jmonkey
#1300 [11:46] <rymate1234> looks like it crashes when it generated a stronghold
#1301 [11:47] <blade023> no, it crashes regardless of that
#1302 [11:47] <Calinou> haha, incgc
#1303 [11:47] <Calinou> I tried once... still sometimes crashes
#1304 [11:48] <Calinou> I prefer constantly using 1536MB
#1305 [11:48] <Calinou> reduces ingame slowdowns too
#1306 [11:48] <blade023> what does the incgc flag do?
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#1309 [11:49] <rymate1234> makes it use as little ram as possible I believe
#1310 [11:49] <blade023> nm i found out, it's to enable the incremental garbage collector
#1311 [11:50] <Balto> my Minecraft game keeps crashing.. not pad documents appear on my desktop when it does crash. they say hs_err_pid452
#1312 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Balto - Please copy the contents of the report, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#1313 [11:52] <Balto> v
#1314 [11:52] <Balto> http://pastebin.com/jLYK1CZQ
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#1316 [11:53] <blade023> no ideas then guys?
#1317 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> Balto - Please completely uninstall java and reinstall it from java.com
#1318 [11:54] <Balto> really? ._.
#1319 [11:54] <Balto> ok..
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#1322 [11:57] <guest-0-84877> Hey guys i get a blackscreen right after i log on to my friends server
#1323 [11:57] <guest-0-84877> anyone know what its is?
#1324 [11:58] <guest-0-84877> it happens right as i open my inventory
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#1326 [11:59] <Timmyjongen> Hello?
#1327 [12:00] <RobinJ24> You're chatting
#1328 [12:00] <Timmyjongen> Is someone familiar with this; User not premium?
#1329 [12:00] <RobinJ24> not talking on the phone..
#1330 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> Timmyjongen - You haven't bought an account yet
#1331 [12:01] <Timmyjongen> Does that mean i can't play the game?
#1332 [12:01] <Timmyjongen> I thought i already did...
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#1334 [12:02] <Timmyjongen> Where do I buy that account?
#1335 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Timmyjongen - It means that account that you're trying to log into, hasn't been paid for
#1336 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Timmyjongen - minecraft.net
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#1339 [12:06] <Timmyjongen> And just the béta?
#1340 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> The beta costs money. The outdated classic mode is free
#1341 [12:07] <Timmyjongen> oww, I see
#1342 [12:08] <Timmyjongen> I'll wait till the full game, I think :D
#1343 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> If you wait, the price for the final version will be more expensive
#1344 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Up to you though
#1345 [12:08] <guest-0-84877> yup
#1346 [12:08] <ghiz> 25% off now
#1347 [12:08] <Timmyjongen> I know, but I don't like to play with bugs :s
#1348 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> Nothing says the final version won't have bugs either
#1349 [12:08] <ghiz> consider it a pre-order :)
#1350 [12:09] <Calinou> there are no game breaking bugs
#1351 [12:09] <Calinou> most of the bugs are actually minor
#1352 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> The final version will be out in November. Updates will still come after
#1353 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> With those updates, will still be bug-fixes
#1354 [12:10] <Timmyjongen> Good point Grey
#1355 [12:10] <Timmyjongen> I'll see you soon then :D
#1356 [12:10] <Timmyjongen> Thanks for the info!!! ;)
#1357 [12:11] <Balt0> i unistalled java and reinstalled and mid game it crashed again
#1358 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Balt0 - Did you uninstall java completely from your system? Could you pastebin the latest error?
#1359 [12:13] <Calinou> make sure you do not use java 7 or java 5
#1360 [12:13] <Balt0> http://pastebin.com/9eLP15BE
#1361 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Different error, looks like your nvidia video card's drivers this time
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#1363 [12:14] <Balt0> how do i fix it?
#1364 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to update them?
#1365 [12:14] <Balt0> no
#1366 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag? Will show us the specs of your computer, including what video card you have
#1367 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> ??> Balt0 win/dxdiag
#1368 [12:15] <VoxelHead> Balt0: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1369 [12:15] <VoxelHead> Balt0: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#1371 [12:17] <Balt0> theres alot of stuff. you want it all
#1372 [12:17] <Balt0> ?
#1373 [12:18] <Balt0> Voxelhead
#1374 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> Balt0 - Yes
#1375 [12:22] <Balt0> http://pastebin.com/HKvZNwrE
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#1377 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Balt0 - One moment
#1378 [12:27] <blade023> ok so i just got it to work... using env LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp /home/username/Applications/Minecraft/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1379 [12:28] <blade023> so it has to be to do with ati's drivers, which is quite annoying, as the open source ones don't really have great performance for 3d games
#1380 [12:28] <blade023> only problem is there's annoying flickering
#1381 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> Balt0 - You're running a NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M video card on Windows 7 Professional 64-bit. The drivers you need to download and install are located here:
#1382 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-280.26-whql-driver.html
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#1385 [12:34] <Balt0> its installing
#1386 [12:37] <Balt0> takes awhile o-o
#1387 [12:39] <JohnEBH> Calinou- Ever since 1.8, there'
#1388 [12:39] <JohnEBH> s been more CPU usage than Memory
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#1392 [12:44] <nickfromgreek> i cant go to minecraft.net why??
#1393 [12:44] <nickfromgreek> www.minecraftstatus.net says it is online
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#1395 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> nickfromgreek - You can't load the website?
#1396 [12:47] <nickfromgreek> i cant go to minecraft.net why??
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#1398 [12:47] <nickfromgreek> www.minecraftstatus.net says it is online
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#1400 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> nickfromgreek - You can't load the website from your browser?
#1401 [12:47] <Wug> nickfromgreek: stop spamming your message and read ours
#1402 [12:48] <nickfromgreek> i have google ghrome i always could go there
#1403 [12:48] <Wug> and minecraft.net is sometimes subject to regional dropouts for seemingly no reason
#1404 [12:48] <nickfromgreek> and smthing alse
#1405 [12:49] <nickfromgreek> at a server it kicks me contineusly and says end of stream and i cant connect for a period what is happening
#1406 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> Probably your firewall or security software
#1407 [12:49] <Wug> you have to login through minecraft.net to get into servers
#1408 [12:50] <Wug> if you cant get to the website you might have to wait a while
#1409 [12:50] <nickfromgreek> even while i could go to minecraft.net that was happening
#1410 [12:50] <nickfromgreek> with the same server
#1411 [12:50] <nickfromgreek> and only the same server
#1412 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> nickfromgreek - What operating system are you on?
#1413 [12:51] <nickfromgreek> I AM ON WINDOWS 7
#1414 [12:51] <nickfromgreek> oops sorry for caps
#1415 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#1416 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, type in: ping minecraft.net
#1417 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Tell us what ip address it resolves to
#1418 [12:52] <nickfromgreek> yea open the command prompt i know
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#1420 [12:53] <nickfromgreek> 0% loss at about 250ms
#1421 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> And the ip address?
#1422 [12:53] <nickfromgreek> what??
#1423 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> What does the first line say?
#1424 [12:54] <nickfromgreek> oh minecraft.net ip says 50.16.203.217
#1425 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> nickfromgreek - And you're not able to pull up minecraft.net in your browser at all?
#1426 [12:59] <nickfromgreek> minecraft fixed but the end of stream problem remains
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#1428 [13:00] <GreyVulpine> That, check your security software. Something's filtering the traffic, interfering with minecraft's connection.
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#1430 [13:01] <nickfromgreek> i have microsoft security essentials for my security
#1431 [13:02] <nickfromgreek> the weird thing is that id does that for only 1 server
#1432 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, have the server's admin move/delete your player.dat out of the /world/players folder
#1433 [13:07] <nickfromgreek> ok thnx
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#1436 [13:15] <will6789> I can only connect to my server from the host computer can anyone help?
#1437 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarded?
#1438 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Is this hosted on a home connection?
#1439 [13:15] <will6789> yes on home connection
#1440 [13:15] <will6789> yes poet sorted
#1441 [13:15] <will6789> port*
#1442 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Then I assume you're running this behind a router. Could you confirm that you've done proper port forwarding?
#1443 [13:16] <will6789> yes
#1444 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Walk me through your port forwarding
#1445 [13:17] <will6789> logon to router open the port settings then add 25565 to the allowed ports list
#1446 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Alright, and what ip address did you port forward to?
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#1448 [13:18] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1448 [13:18] <TheNoodle> ...lol
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#1450 [13:22] <Guest7131> I can't connect to minecraft.net with my account :/
#1451 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> In the browser, or the downloaded client?
#1452 [13:22] <Guest7131> Download client
#1453 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Has it worked before?
#1454 [13:23] <Guest7131> No, I have a Account since yesterday
#1455 [13:23] <Guest7131> I got a gift code from a friend
#1456 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Can you confirm that your system's date and time are correct?
#1457 [13:24] <Guest7131> Yes.. but it's german time
#1458 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> That's fine. What operating system are you on?
#1459 [13:24] <Guest7131> Windows 7
#1460 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Does your windows username happen to contain an exclaimation mark (!) in it?
#1461 [13:25] <Guest7131> No
#1462 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> Alright. What security software or firewall do you run?
#1463 [13:26] <Guest7131> AntiVir and I think it's the standard firewall of windows
#1464 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Not running any other firewall or network security other than windows firewall?
#1465 [13:26] <Guest7131> No
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#1467 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Could you pull up your browser and go to https://login.minecraft.net -- It should say "Bad login" if you can load up the page
#1468 [13:28] <Flotwell> hey players - i bought the game minecraft about 7 hours ago and i m still no premium user? u guys know why? is there a bug or something?
#1469 [13:28] <Flotwell> i cant logg in
#1470 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Flotwell - Call up whatever you used to pay for the account, your credit card or bank, and confirm that payment was made on their end
#1471 [13:29] <Guest7131> I cant load this side
#1472 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Flotwell - Make sure payment was made to Mojang AB
#1473 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Guest7131 - Have you ever pirated minecraft before?
#1474 [13:30] <Guest7131> No but I had a cracked Version because I can't buy Minecraft
#1475 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> Cracked = Pirated
#1476 [13:30] <Guest7131> Okay, sorry
#1477 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> We can fix that, one moment
#1478 [13:31] <Flotwell> @ greyvulpine can you see if its payed or not?
#1479 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Flotwell - We're not Mojang, we're community run support. We have no access to customer accounts here
#1480 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Guest18996 - could you go to your start menu, Go to programs -> accessories -> right click on Notepad and "Run as administrator"
#1481 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> bleh, that was for Guest7131
#1482 [13:32] <Flotwell> kk anyway thanks a lot
#1483 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> Once you have notepad open, please go to file -> open.
#1484 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Go to C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc -- There, you should see a file named HOSTS
#1485 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Open it please.
#1486 [13:34] <Guest7131> One moment
#1487 [13:35] <Guest7131> Theres no file named HOSTS
#1488 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> what files do you see there?
#1489 [13:35] <Guest7131> Oh sorry, there is on
#1490 [13:35] <Guest7131> *one
#1491 [13:36] <Guest7131> NNow?
#1492 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Open it up please
#1493 [13:36] <Guest7131> Yes
#1494 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> A very common issue that cracked versions of minecraft do to get around authentication is to screw with the hosts file. This prevents the launcher from communicating with the real minecraft.net server.
#1495 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a line that has 127.0.0.1 followed by login.minecraft.net ?
#1496 [13:36] <Guest7131> Yes
#1497 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Please remove all mention of minecraft from that file.
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#1499 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> (if there's more than one line with that)
#1500 [13:37] <mib_g4biam> hey i need help
#1501 [13:37] <Guest7131> It's removed
#1502 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Once you do, please save the file, then try the launcher again
#1503 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> It should work now
#1504 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_g4biam - With?
#1505 [13:37] <mib_g4biam> its saying pixel is broken evry time i try to start game
#1506 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_g4biam - What operating system are you on?
#1507 [13:38] <mib_g4biam> windows 7
#1508 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> Have you updated your video drivers? Do you know how to?
#1509 [13:38] <mib_g4biam> no
#1510 [13:38] <Guest7131> Thank you, it works :D
#1511 [13:38] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1511 [13:38] <mib_g4biam> how do you update
#1512 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> mib_g4biam - Could you please give us a dxdiag. It will allow us to see what video card you have, and recommend a video driver for you to download and install
#1513 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_g4biam win/dxdiag
#1514 [13:39] <VoxelHead> mib_g4biam: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1515 [13:39] <VoxelHead> mib_g4biam: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1516 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Follow VoxelHead's instructions please.
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#1518 [13:39] <mib_g4biam> whats a dxdiag
#1519 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> You can get a dxdiag by following VoxelHead's instructions. It gives us more information about your system, including what video card you have
#1520 [13:40] <HCHPSYCHO> hi is someone here?
#1521 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> HCHPSYCHO - Yes.
#1522 [13:41] <HCHPSYCHO> I´v got a problem i bought minecraft on minecraft. net... my friend got an email when he bought it but i didnt get annything
#1523 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> HCHPSYCHO - When did you buy it?
#1524 [13:42] <HCHPSYCHO> 2hours ago my friend got his email tewo minutes later
#1525 [13:42] <Wug> :payment/stopped > HCHPSYCHO
#1526 [13:42] <WugBot> HCHPSYCHO: (payment/stopped) Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#1527 [13:42] <WugBot> HCHPSYCHO: (payment/stopped) If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#1528 [13:42] <mib_g4biam> okay i sumbmitted it
#1529 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> mib_g4biam - Please give us the URL to the webpage
#1530 [13:42] <mib_g4biam> okay
#1531 [13:42] <HCHPSYCHO> soso is the transfer stopped?
#1532 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> HCHPSYCHO - Only way to be sure what happened, is to call your bank
#1533 [13:43] <RobinJ24> Its not international for me because I am le pro
#1534 [13:43] <mib_g4biam> http://pastebin.com/6as1Bf9A
#1535 [13:43] <mib_g4biam> theres my information
#1536 [13:44] <HCHPSYCHO> hmh ok... so if the payment is stopped i can buy it on a nother site, a german site
#1537 [13:44] <mib_g4biam> greyvulpin my info there
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#1539 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> HCHPSYCHO - The only official site where you can buy minecraft is from minecraft.net
#1540 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> mib_g4biam - Moment please
#1541 [13:45] <Lykkepillen> Any way to change my email?
#1542 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> Lykkepillen - Not at this moment, no.
#1543 [13:45] <Lykkepillen> God dammit..
#1544 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> There are plans to implement it in the future
#1545 [13:46] <Lykkepillen> Hope it has a high priority
#1546 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> mib_g4biam - You're running a Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series video card on Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit. The updated drivers you need to download and install are at: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#1547 [13:46] <mib_g4biam> thank you kind sir
#1548 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Lykkepillen - http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/123118553640611841
#1549 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> Lykkepillen - Official answer "Soon"
#1550 [13:46] <mib_g4biam> greyvulpine thers to version to update wich one do i update
#1551 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_g4biam - The first one, Full Software Suite.
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#1553 [13:47] <Lykkepillen> GreyVulpine: Thank you! :)
#1554 [13:47] <mib_g4biam> thanx for your help
#1555 [13:47] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1555 [13:47] <HCHPSYCHO> and whats with this site http://www.mmoga.de/Gamecards-CD-Keys/Minecraft-Key-Gift-Code.html
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#1557 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> HCHPSYCHO - There are no authorized resellers of minecraft. That site right there is selling minecraft for 10,99 €. Minecraft is selling for 15 euros on the official site
#1558 [13:48] <GreyVulpine> HCHPSYCHO - What you're seeing there, is a scam.
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#1562 [13:49] <HCHPSYCHO> -.- ok... i ask my friend how he did it thx for help
#1563 [13:49] <GreyVulpine> Ask yourself. Why would a person buy minecraft for 15 euros, and go around to sell it for 10,99 €? What profit does he make?
#1564 [13:50] <mariettagecko> Rumor has it that those people got the keys during alpha.
#1565 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> mariettagecko - I wouldn't be selling my alpha keys for 10 euros...
#1566 [13:50] <mariettagecko> although I don't know that for sure.
#1567 [13:50] <mariettagecko> No?
#1568 [13:50] <TheNoodle> I'd be holding on to them.
#1569 [13:50] <GreyVulpine> Free expansions past final? They're worth darn more than 10 euros
#1570 [13:50] <TheNoodle> Alpha keys give you access to all future updates to minecraft, beta keys only give until the final release later this year.
#1571 [13:51] <mariettagecko> ahhh
#1572 [13:51] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1572 [13:51] <mariettagecko> Ok
#1573 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> ?? premium
#1574 [13:51] <VoxelHead> premium: Both Alpha and Beta premium users will get bug fixes, updates, patches, and the final release of the game for free. This has not changed. The only difference between the two is the potential aspect of future expansions beyond final release. Alpha users were promised these future expansions for free, while people that bought it during Beta were not.
#1575 [13:51] <mariettagecko> Makes me wish I had gotten alpha keys.
#1576 [13:51] <RobinJ24> Meh
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#1578 [13:51] <RobinJ24> Normal updates will still be free I think
#1579 [13:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#1581 [13:51] <Arnisador001> Greetings All :)
#1582 [13:51] <Gizmo> i need help :/
#1583 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> There will still be Updates and bug fixes past final.
#1584 [13:52] <minecraftlogger> hi everybody , someone to help me?
#1585 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Both alpha and beta will get those for free
#1586 [13:52] <mariettagecko> ?? gizmo ask
#1587 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> Use ??> to direct an FAQ entry
#1588 [13:52] <mariettagecko> ??> gizmo ask
#1589 [13:52] <VoxelHead> gizmo: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1590 [13:52] <VoxelHead> gizmo: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1593 [13:53] <mariettagecko> ??> minecraftlogger ask
#1594 [13:53] <Gizmo> well my minecraft wont load up and i get a looooooong message in a note on my desktop
#1595 [13:53] <VoxelHead> minecraftlogger: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1596 [13:53] <minecraftlogger> Voxelhead , can i ask u some help for the game?
#1597 [13:53] <VoxelHead> minecraftlogger: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1598 [13:53] <minecraftlogger> Well
#1599 [13:53] <mariettagecko> Gizmo: what operating system?
#1600 [13:53] <GreyVulpine> Gizmo - Please copy the entirety of that log to pastebin.com and submit it, give us the URL to it
#1601 [13:53] <Gizmo> windows 7
#1602 [13:54] <mariettagecko> ??> Gizmo pastebin
#1603 [13:54] <VoxelHead> Gizmo: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1604 [13:54] <Arnisador001> I've been really busy in the Real World but when 1.8 came out I got the "Can't connect to Minecraft.net" on my launcher....has this been fixed?..I cna't stay on for to long though
#1605 [13:54] <Gizmo> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#1606 [13:54] <Arnisador001> *can't
#1607 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Gizmo - To www.pastebin.com please.
#1608 [13:54] <Gizmo> then a looooong message of codes
#1609 [13:54] <minecraftlogger> I can login on the site but not on the game & it don't want to download 1.8 ( i'm in 1.6) i've download on minecraft.net a week ago but still in 1.6
#1610 [13:54] <GreyVulpine> Gizmo - Use pastebin.com to paste your long message, then give us the URL to it
#1611 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> minecraftlogger - When you log in, it goes you "login failed"?
#1612 [13:55] <minecraftlogger> Yeah
#1613 [13:55] <mariettagecko> Arnisador001: what os are you using>?
#1614 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> minecraftlogger - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net -- there was a new launcher that was released for 1.8
#1615 [13:56] <Arnisador001> @minecraftlogger - yeah I got that message too when I "try again"
#1616 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Arnisador001 - Please redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#1617 [13:56] <Gizmo> http://pastebin.com/2nf3KYMx
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#1619 [13:56] <minecraftlogguer> Excuse me , i've been disconnected
#1620 [13:56] <Arnisador001> I did try that (re dl the Launcher) But for some reason I can't dl it...
#1621 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> Arnisador001 - You can't redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download?
#1622 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> minecraftlogger - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net -- there was a new launcher that was released for 1.8
#1623 [13:57] <Arnisador001> @ GreyVulpine - That is correct Sir/Madam
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#1625 [13:57] <minecraftlogguer> i tried it again today , but nothing appens
#1626 [13:57] <Gizmo> any help? http://pastebin.com/2nf3KYMx
#1627 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> Arnisador001 - what is preventing you? Do you get any error messages when you try to download it?
#1628 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> Try this link to download the client
#1629 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> !client
#1630 [13:58] <Arnisador001> I also tried to "delete" my Minecraft game..still can't DL the NewLauncher
#1631 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> Gizmo - One moment please
#1632 [13:58] <Gizmo> ok thank you
#1633 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> Gizmo - Do you know how to update your ATI drivers?
#1634 [13:58] <Gizmo> no?
#1635 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Please give us a dxdiag, so that we may know what ATI video card you're running, and can suggest an update
#1636 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> ??> Gizmo win/dxdiag
#1637 [13:59] <VoxelHead> Gizmo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1638 [13:59] <VoxelHead> Gizmo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1639 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Arnisador001 - Could you try: http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1640 [13:59] <minecraftlogguer> Is it normal that minecraft download in less than 5 sec?
#1641 [13:59] <Arnisador001> @ AuBot (sigh) Still can't DL the new launcher...I'm not to tech savy either...
#1642 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> minecraftlogger - The launcher, yes
#1643 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Arnisador001 - What do you get when you try to download the new launcher?
#1644 [14:00] <minecraftlogguer> Ok , i need so game so :D
#1645 [14:00] <Arnisador001> Please Standby trying the other links...
#1646 [14:00] <minecraftlogguer> anybody?
#1647 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> minecraftlogguer - Please try the launcher: http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1648 [14:01] <minecraftlogguer> ok , i do
#1649 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> minecraftlogguer - Use that new launcher to log in
#1650 [14:01] <minecraftlogguer> nothing happens
#1651 [14:01] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate? Does the launcher not run?
#1652 [14:02] <minecraftlogguer> it run
#1653 [14:02] <Arnisador001> DOH...I still get "Mincraft_exe couldn't be downloaded" message...I don'tknow what I'm doing wrong..It's kinda easy to point and click...
#1654 [14:02] <minecraftlogguer> but " login failed "
#1655 [14:02] <Gizmo> http://pastebin.com/BH89dhVQ ?
#1656 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> minecraftlogguer - Are you able to log into minecraft.net in your browser? If so, please try changing your password using the profile page there
#1657 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> Gizmo - Thanks, one moment
#1658 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Arnisador001 - Um, huh?
#1659 [14:03] <minecraftlogguer> On the web , yeah , i can login , i will try right now
#1660 [14:03] <GreyVulpine> Arnisador001 - Is that the exact error you're getting?
#1661 [14:03] <Arnisador001> yeah.. iknow right...
#1662 [14:03] <Arnisador001> Yes Sir/Ma'am
#1663 [14:03] <Arnisador001> I'm using windows 7
#1664 [14:04] <Arnisador001> and I get that message on the bottom AFTER I try to save it
#1665 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Gizmo - Ah, the toshiba c660 laptop. I remember that. Posted a solution for it here: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/toshiba_c660_laptops_and_ati_problem
#1666 [14:04] <Gizmo> thanks
#1667 [14:04] <GreyVulpine> Arnisador001 - What.. security software are you running?
#1668 [14:04] <Arnisador001> hmmm I think al my drivers are up to date too...
#1669 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> There's been a few reports of some av software that is flagging minecraft as a false positive.
#1670 [14:05] <Arnisador001> oooo! Security...that may be it....FYI I'm running Kaspersky...
#1671 [14:05] <GreyVulpine> Try disabling it to test
#1672 [14:06] <Arnisador001> Ok Please Standby....
#1673 [14:06] <minecraftlogguer> GreyVulpine , I LOVE U SO
#1674 [14:06] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1674 [14:06] <minecraftlogguer> <3<3<3
#1675 [14:06] <minecraftlogguer> hughs hughs hughs
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#1677 [14:08] <Arnisador001> DOH! Muh Kaspersky Icon says it's disabled...(sigh) No go...I still can't dl the MC exe...
#1678 [14:08] <GreyVulpine> Arnisador001 - It's disabled entirely?
#1679 [14:08] <Arnisador001> ummmm...
#1680 [14:09] <Arnisador001> ok...it's gonna take me awhile to find out if i've disabled it "entirely"...any hints to find this out?
#1681 [14:10] <Arnisador001> (sorry for not being tech literate)
#1682 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> No worries. Unfortunately, I don't run kaspersky myself... Google's probably your best bet
#1683 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> Make sure "resident shield" is disabled in the main window
#1684 [14:11] <Arnisador001> hmmmm
#1685 [14:11] <Arnisador001> looking for "resident shield"
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#1687 [14:14] <Arnisador001> hmmmm I don't see a "resident shield", but I have turne off the firewall....Does it matter where I try to "save" the file?I'm trying to save it on my desktop...
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#1689 [14:14] <Arnisador001> *turned
#1690 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't matter where you saved it. Perhaps try a different browser, see if it gives you any errors then?
#1691 [14:15] <Arnisador001> as far as I can tell everything "looks" turned off...
#1692 [14:15] <Arnisador001> different browser...you mean other than I.E.?
#1693 [14:15] <Wug> well derp
#1694 [14:15] <GreyVulpine> Oh dear yes.
#1695 [14:15] <Wug> anything except ie
#1696 [14:15] <Arnisador001> ummmm
#1697 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Firefox, chrome, opera..
#1698 [14:16] <Arnisador001> (tries to remember how to get acces to a different browser)
#1699 [14:16] <Arnisador001> :p
#1700 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Firefox can be found here: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/
#1701 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> Chrome can be found http://www.google.com/chrome
#1702 [14:16] <GreyVulpine> And opera's at http://www.opera.com/
#1703 [14:21] <Arnisador001> hmmm
#1704 [14:23] <Arnisador001> I clicked Chrome's "accept and instal"..how long does this take? It doesn't seem to be doing anything...
#1705 [14:23] <Arnisador001> *install
#1706 [14:24] <Wug> ;+ browsers Don't use Internet Explorer or Safari, each has a set of irritating issues that interfere with minecraft. Use one of the following instead:;;Firefox: http://mozilla.org/en-US/ -- Chrome: http://google.com/chrome -- Opera: http://www.opera.com/
#1707 [14:24] <WugBot> Done.
#1708 [14:24] <Wug> ;save
#1709 [14:24] <Wug> most browsers are a fairly large download
#1710 [14:24] <Wug> I'm pretty sure the download for chrome is in the range of 50MB
#1711 [14:25] <Wug> but it should install fairly quickly
#1712 [14:25] <Arnisador001> hmmmm
#1713 [14:26] <Arnisador001> does one get a "downloading" icon of sorts???
#1714 [14:26] <Arnisador001> with chrome that is...
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#1716 [14:27] <Arnisador001> ok...so I'll try Mozilla this time. Please Stand by....
#1717 [14:27] <Wug> did chrome install?
#1718 [14:28] <Wug> you did run it right?
#1719 [14:28] <Wug> it downloads a little stub file that you subsequently run
#1720 [14:28] <Arnisador001> that's what's wrong....I got nothing after I've clicked Accept and Install
#1721 [14:29] <Arnisador001> (the disadvantages of growing up BEFORE computers) ;p
#1722 [14:29] <Wug> you say you got a "downloading" icon?
#1723 [14:29] <Arnisador001> nope...no Dl icon showed up...
#1724 [14:29] <Arnisador001> *DL
#1725 [14:29] <Wug> go back to the chrome install page
#1726 [14:30] <Wug> there should be a link to click if you're having issues with the download
#1727 [14:30] <Wug> IE causes so many problems
#1728 [14:30] <Arnisador001> okies...Please stnad by
#1729 [14:30] <Arnisador001> *stand even
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#1732 [14:33] <Arnisador001> LOL wierd...I had my net security "off" so nothing was dling.....
#1733 [14:33] <Arnisador001> NOW it works!
#1734 [14:34] <Arnisador001> Please Stand by
#1735 [14:34] <Wug> what a pain
#1736 [14:34] <Arnisador001> Tell me about it!
#1737 [14:34] <Wug> do you have more than one antivirus program?
#1738 [14:34] <Arnisador001> MAYBE it's a feature so I don't DL anything UNTIL my security is up...
#1739 [14:34] <Wug> because honestly, nobody needs more than one for pretty much anything
#1740 [14:35] <Wug> anyway, with chrome or firefox or your new browser of preference, get the client here:
#1741 [14:35] <Arnisador001> I've only activated Kaspersky....I think window's security is deactivated...
#1742 [14:35] <Wug> !client
#1743 [14:36] <Wug> I've seen instances where having more than one protection software active at once caused them to fight with each other and behave oddly
#1744 [14:36] <Wug> its generally unnecessary, and sometimes an outright bad idea
#1745 [14:37] <mariettagecko> Fun
#1746 [14:37] <Arnisador001> yah I know...I think I have only one Computer Security runnning...but those computer guys seem to know how to take over one's computer ANYwho... :p
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#1748 [14:38] <Arnisador001> uh oh...something's happening.......
#1749 [14:41] <Arnisador001> O..M...G!
#1750 [14:41] <Arnisador001> Silly I.E.!
#1751 [14:42] <Arnisador001> (SIGH) Do I have to set Chrome as muh browser now?
#1752 [14:42] <Arnisador001> for future updates???
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#1755 [14:44] <Arnisador001> @ Wug, GreyVulpine and AuBot Thanks!
#1756 [14:45] <Wug> np
#1757 [14:45] <Wug> aubot is a bot btw
#1758 [14:45] <Arnisador001> Do I need to change my browser for future updates since I.E. seems to have conflicts???
#1759 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> We would recommend any other browser than IE for everyday use..
#1760 [14:46] <Arnisador001> @ Wug see???? I'm such a noob!
#1761 [14:47] <Arnisador001> (sigh) another computer app I have to relearn how to use...
#1762 [14:47] <Wug> chrome takes about 10 seconds to pick up
#1763 [14:47] <Wug> you can google from the address bar
#1764 [14:47] <Wug> you can configure it to use other search engines too later
#1765 [14:47] <Arnisador001> LOL for me I may have to take 10 minutes to figure it out
#1766 [14:47] <Arnisador001> but I loves me some Minecraft!
#1767 [14:48] <Wug> well, it took longer than that to get minecraft downloaded
#1768 [14:48] <Arnisador001> hahahahha
#1769 [14:48] <Arnisador001> Amen Wug!
#1770 [14:48] <Wug> so as long as you have to do this again even once, or anything like it, it will be worth it
#1771 [14:48] <Arnisador001> Ok so muh lesson for the day..."Stay away from Internet Explorer"
#1772 [14:49] <Arnisador001> maaaaaaayn I have to redo muh favorites bar and everything else...huh???
#1773 [14:49] <Arnisador001> :(= :p
#1774 [14:49] <Arnisador001> err
#1775 [14:49] <Arnisador001> :( + :p
#1776 [14:50] <Arnisador001> OK gonna test again if MC is still working...
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#1779 [14:52] <Arnisador001> DOH...I forgot where I put it now! (I'm suuuuch a nooob!)
#1780 [14:52] <mariettagecko> Firefox ftw
#1781 [14:53] <Arnisador001> seriously what's the general preference for browsers for you kids these days???
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#1783 [15:01] <Wug> I use chrome
#1784 [15:01] <Wug> ... and hes not there
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#1787 [15:06] <mariettagecko> I use FF7, at this point.
#1788 [15:07] <mariettagecko> on pretty much everything.
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#1790 [15:07] <mariettagecko> Linux or otherwise.
#1791 [15:07] <mariettagecko> Occasionally, I'll use Chrome, but I also make heavy use of some addons in Firefox which aren't available on Chrome.
#1792 [15:07] <mariettagecko> so...
#1793 [15:08] <Wug> I hope you're not referring to noscript
#1794 [15:08] <munky> HELLO I CANT FRICKEN BUY MINECRAFT!!!!
#1795 [15:08] <Wug> munky: you just got here and you're already yelling
#1796 [15:08] <munky> I bought a preppaid visa and it didnt work then i used my dads mastercard and that didnt work
#1797 [15:08] <Wug> is this how you walk into every building
#1798 [15:09] <Wug> prepaid cards from walmart or whatever almost never work
#1799 [15:09] <Wug> :payment/stopped > munky
#1800 [15:09] <WugBot> munky: (payment/stopped) Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#1801 [15:09] <WugBot> munky: (payment/stopped) If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#1802 [15:09] <munky> erm
#1803 [15:09] <munky> well then why wont my mastercard work?
#1804 [15:10] <munky> hmmm?
#1805 [15:10] <munky> please?
#1806 [15:11] <munky> !paid grey_gandalf
#1807 [15:11] <munky> :'(
#1808 [15:12] <Wug> read the factoid
#1809 [15:12] <Wug> it very clearly explains why the mastercard did not work and what you have to do to fix it
#1810 [15:13] <munky> can i has a gift code please! i luv you
#1811 [15:13] <munky> what factoid?
#1812 [15:13] <munky> when i used the mastercard it said its disabled for 24 hours
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#1814 [15:13] <Wug> :payment/stopped > munky
#1815 [15:13] <WugBot> munky: (payment/stopped) Banks, credit card companies, etc. frequently stop minecraft purchases for your protection because they are international transactions. You may have to call your financial institution and ask that they approve the transfer.
#1816 [15:13] <WugBot> munky: (payment/stopped) If you're not sure what to say, tell them: "I would like to make an international purchase and payment is being declined. How would I go about approving the purchase?"
#1817 [15:13] <munky> and when i used visa
#1818 [15:13] <Wug> ^ factoid
#1819 [15:13] <Wug> dont beg for gift codes. its demeaning.
#1820 [15:14] <munky> :(
#1821 [15:14] <munky> i have minecraft alrady im aking for my firend :D
#1822 [15:14] <munky> !paid funkeymunkeys
#1823 [15:15] <munky> BITCHES FUCK YOU WHO WHORE SUCK MY COCK
#1824 [15:15] * AuBot kicked munky from #minecrafthelp (Reason: unky :Please keep it civil.)
#1825 [15:16] <mariettagecko> ...
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#1827 [15:16] <mib_ld4r3y> ll
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#1829 [15:16] <mariettagecko> Wug, in fact, I was referring to NoScript.
#1830 [15:16] <mariettagecko> Also, TreeStyleTabs.
#1831 [15:17] <Wug> mariettagecko: treestyletabs might not have an equivalent
#1832 [15:17] <Wug> but noscript is more or less useless unless you're a tin foil hat nutcase -.-
#1833 [15:17] <mariettagecko> I don't know, noscript seems to work pretty well for me.
#1834 [15:18] <Wug> but it doesnt really do anything
#1835 [15:18] <mariettagecko> I tend to not allow anyone to run scripts unless I have to.
#1836 [15:18] <mariettagecko> Sure it does.
#1837 [15:18] <mariettagecko> It stops all scripts on the page from running, unless I explicitly allow them.
#1838 [15:18] <Wug> I cant see any reason to deny scripts unless you allow them
#1839 [15:18] <mariettagecko> I can.
#1840 [15:18] <Wug> javascript is more or less harmless
#1841 [15:18] <Wug> doing evil things with it is difficult
#1842 [15:18] <mariettagecko> Lots of times, viruses are spread through javascripts on websites, particularly forums or the like.
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#1844 [15:18] <Wug> especially outside of internet explorer
#1845 [15:18] <Mrcrazysalad> Hello?
#1846 [15:19] <mariettagecko> Hi
#1847 [15:19] <Mrcrazysalad> i need help with mcedit.
#1848 [15:19] <mariettagecko> Well, I do tend to keep my systems updated, but still.
#1849 [15:19] <Mrcrazysalad> I cant find the export as a schematic button when i make a selection
#1850 [15:19] <Wug> there is no way for javascript to do some things
#1851 [15:20] <Wug> its tricky to get it to so much as download something (though not impossibly)
#1852 [15:20] <mariettagecko> No, but it can cause you to download and open, say, a PDF.
#1853 [15:20] <Wug> and if you have virus protection that will zap it
#1854 [15:20] <Thrae> Chrome is a good bit more secure because it runs Javascript in a sandbox.
#1855 [15:20] <Wug> it cant open anything
#1856 [15:20] <Wug> it can only download
#1857 [15:20] <Mrcrazysalad> Doesnt matter i found out
#1858 [15:20] <Mrcrazysalad> lol, thanks anyway
#1859 [15:20] <Wug> your browser settings determine whether or not content is opened upon being downloaded
#1860 [15:21] <Wug> and pdf exploits are caught by any decent virus protection
#1861 [15:21] <mariettagecko> One would hope.
#1862 [15:21] <mariettagecko> Although, there's entirely too many of them.
#1863 [15:21] <Wug> chrome's sandboxing of javascript and plugins prevents vulnerabilities with flash too
#1864 [15:21] <mariettagecko> Yeah, flash is the other one that's a real pain.
#1865 [15:21] <Wug> inherently, as opposed to relying on an addon to do it
#1866 [15:22] <mariettagecko> Also, Noscript prevents XSS issues
#1867 [15:22] * Thrae uses FoxIt for Windows, which has some good security for PDFs
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#1868 [15:22] <Wug> its also faster (especially with addons) though it uses a bit more memory
#1869 [15:22] <mariettagecko> I'll accept that Chrome seems to be faster. That I agree with.
#1870 [15:22] <mariettagecko> But I will disagree with you that noscript is useless.
#1871 [15:23] <Wug> I have been using the internet without noscript forever and have never felt a need for it
#1872 [15:23] <Wug> I think that having to enable javascript every time I wanted to do anything on a site i'd never been to before would be somewhat tedious
#1873 [15:23] <mariettagecko> I usually don't notice it.
#1874 [15:24] <mariettagecko> The sites I frequent the most are allowed globally, the rest are simple to enable scripting on if I need it.
#1875 [15:24] <Wug> if you have it globally allowed on sites you use, so its only being used for maybe 5% of your traffic, do you really need it
#1876 [15:24] <mariettagecko> Also, it results in much faster loading of many of those pages, *AND* I don't have issues with pages suddenly blaring out some random noise because some dumbass embeded a video on the page.
#1877 [15:24] <Thrae> I used NoScript on Firefox for a long time before switching to Chrome. It can be tedious, just like how I use a Javascript pop-up blocker extension with Chrome that helps prevent pop-ups Chrome doesn't handle.
#1878 [15:25] <Wug> chrome has adblock
#1879 [15:25] <Wug> I dont use it because ads keep the internet free
#1880 [15:25] <Wug> but its an option
#1881 [15:25] <Thrae> AdBlock doesn't stop these pop-ups
#1882 [15:25] <JohnEBH> It does for me o.o
#1883 [15:25] <JohnEBH> Thrae- http://jessehakanen.net/adblockpluspopupaddon/
#1884 [15:26] <Thrae> JohnEBH: I know, I use it
#1885 [15:26] <mariettagecko> I don't inherently have issues with ads on sites, for the same reason you mentioned.
#1886 [15:26] <Wug> you can also enable and disable javascript and plugins, such as flash and chrome's pdf reader (which is independant of adobe and thus sucks significantly less) on a per domain basis
#1887 [15:27] <Wug> I've been using chrome since version 2 and I've never had an issue with malignant scripts
#1888 [15:27] <Thrae> JohnEBH: I've found a lot of websites where I find it more annoying to have the pop-ups, ads or not, than dealing with the extension
#1889 [15:28] <Wug> theres the occasional javascript trap, but the sandboxing and multiprocess architecture soundly defeat that
#1890 [15:28] <Wug> you can just close the tab
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#1893 [15:35] <jimstapleton> hello, I'm getting errors like this: Credit/debit card deposits disabled
#1894 [15:35] <jimstapleton> does anyone know what would cause them? (trying to purchase)
#1895 [15:35] <jimstapleton> it happens with paypal, selecting a cart type on the main page or skrill
#1896 [15:36] <Thrae> jimstapleton: Well since Mojang doesn't give those error messages themselves, and you're using two different escrow services (Paypal and Moneybookers), I suggest contacting your card issuer and seeing what's up.
#1897 [15:37] <jimstapleton> yeah, I've used two different cards (both I've used before and after transaction attempts with paypal/moneybookers.
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#1899 [15:41] <minorMiner10> hi
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#1901 [15:41] <Thrae> jimstapleton: Contact the card issuer and see what's up
#1902 [15:42] <Thrae> minorMiner10: Hi
#1903 [15:43] <jimstapleton> You can not use your credit/debit card for the next 24 hours.
#1904 [15:43] <jimstapleton> This restriction cannot be lifted manually by you or our service team. Please return to the website of the Merchant where you will receive further instructions.
#1905 [15:43] <RobinJ24> !check mc.tux2mc.com
#1906 [15:43] <Thrae> jimstapleton: Yes, I know what the error message is, and you need to contact your card issuer
#1907 [15:43] <jimstapleton> my card issuer says that they aren't rejecting anything
#1908 [15:44] <Thrae> jimstapleton: Well, what does Paypal say? Since that's a Moneybookers message.
#1909 [15:44] <jimstapleton> there's no rejections or charge attempts
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#1911 [15:45] <Thrae> jimstapleton: Moneybookers is basically banning the card as its attempts to verify your identity failed for whatever reason. Wrong SSN#, couldn't send a SMS verification, etc.
#1912 [15:45] <aE4DAS> hi
#1913 [15:45] <Thrae> ??> aE4DAS dont/pm
#1914 [15:45] <VoxelHead> aE4DAS: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1915 [15:45] <Thrae> aE4DAS: I will help you here, in the channel. What do you need?
#1916 [15:45] <aE4DAS> ok
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#1918 [15:46] <aE4DAS> ?
#1919 [15:46] <Thrae> aE4DAS: Stop messaging me
#1920 [15:46] <Thrae> aE4DAS: I will help you publicly here in the channel
#1921 [15:47] <Thrae> aE4DAS: So, are you using Windows, Linux, Mac? And are you using any mods or texture packs?
#1922 [15:48] <aE4DAS> uhhhh
#1923 [15:48] <aE4DAS> i r use
#1924 [15:48] <aE4DAS> computer
#1925 [15:48] <Ketsueki> aE4DAS: also, for Thrae ... nevermind. Troll
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#1927 [15:49] <Thrae> Ketsueki: Seems that way
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#1929 [15:49] <Thrae> jimstapleton: Are you using Paypal with an account, or without an account?
#1930 [15:51] <jimstapleton> paypal was without an account
#1931 [15:51] <mib_t641xu> hi i need help with running minecraft
#1932 [15:51] <jimstapleton> the same error with Paypal, Skrill and moneybookers. My bank says there is no issue at there end
#1933 [15:51] <Thrae> jimstapleton: Maybe try Paypal with an account. If you still have problems, contact both Moneybookers and Paypal. Unfortunately there's nothing Mojang can do.
#1934 [15:52] <Thrae> jimstapleton: If the escrow services are blocking it then it's not even getting far enough to Mojang's end, and it's not their restriction
#1935 [15:53] <Thrae> mib_t641xu: We prefer to help people here in the channel. What's going on?
#1936 [15:53] <mariettagecko> I know that when I was trying to get my account, it turned out that my bank decided it was a fraudulent charge and blocked it, then called me.
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#1939 [15:53] <Thrae> mariettagecko: Well I take jimstapleton at his word when he says he already contacted them and made sure
#1940 [15:54] <danjames-mycraftserver> Hello
#1941 [15:54] <mohawk> hi
#1942 [15:54] <mariettagecko> True
#1943 [15:54] <Thrae> Please state your problems.
#1944 [15:54] <danjames-mycraftserver> Can someone please hep me, I've got this error and people keep getting kicked:: Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort: socket write error.
#1945 [15:54] <Thrae> danjames-mycraftserver: Are you using a non-modded vanilla server?
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#1947 [15:55] <jimstapleton> who/what are the escro services?
#1948 [15:55] <danjames-mycraftserver> NO, Bukkit. But I'm sure I've seen this error with Vanilla, although I may be wrong. If I am I'll ask in bukkit irc :)
#1949 [15:55] <jimstapleton> *escrow
#1950 [15:55] <Thrae> jimstapleton: Moneybookers, Paypal, Skrill
#1951 [15:55] <mohawk> ok um minecraft wont open for me. i do not have any mods installed i even deleted my .minecraft folder and got a fresh one. the crash report says it cant find the properties in java which installed 64 bit and 32 bit and it still wont open
#1952 [15:56] <jimstapleton> ok. I guess it's just interesting they are all blocking both of my cards, which I can use elsewhere, and my bank is seeing no attempts at transaction
#1953 [15:56] <mariettagecko> danjames-mycraftserver: Try a regular vanilla server. if you still have issues, then I would suggest redownloading.
#1954 [15:56] <Thrae> mohawk: Copy the error to www.pastebin.com and give us the link
#1955 [15:56] <danjames-mycraftserver> Don't worry I'll ask bukkit first, doing that will take forever and have my server down for a while. Thanks anyway
#1956 [15:56] <Thrae> jimstapleton: Yeah, but as I said, if you're getting that error the transaction isn't even reaching Mojang so they have absolutely nothing to do with it
#1957 [15:56] <mariettagecko> Sorry I can't help more.
#1958 [15:57] <jimstapleton> I know there's nothing you can do, the error message says that
#1959 [15:57] <jimstapleton> I was just wondering if you had seen/heard of this before, and anyone told you their workaround
#1960 [15:57] <jimstapleton> Sorry, I guess I hadn't made that clear
#1961 [15:57] <Thrae> jimstapleton: Do some Google searches....mostly I just got horror stories of how bad customer service is with these escrow services
#1962 [15:58] <mariettagecko> jimstapleton: I am not aware of any workaround for it, unfortunately. Your best bet is to try talking with the escrow service you were using and see if they can tell you what went wrong.
#1963 [15:58] <Thrae> And Minecraft will pop up a lot in the Google searches because I think Minecraft is a big client to Moneybookers
#1964 [15:58] <jimstapleton> I noticed. I emailed notch and stated interest in another service which is easy to use, and friendly, but I don't know if he'll get it
#1965 [15:59] <jimstapleton> I'll see if I can try that, thanks!
#1966 [15:59] <mariettagecko> If Paypal had been an option when I got my account, I would have used them, if mainly because I already had a paypal account.
#1967 [15:59] <jimstapleton> I wouldn't mind seeing white box (dot? square?) or google checkout myself.
#1968 [15:59] <jimstapleton> but as I said, emailed that suggestion to notch
#1969 [16:00] <mariettagecko> Yeah, google checkout would be nice.
#1970 [16:00] <mariettagecko> I don't know that other one.
#1971 [16:00] <mohawk> ok heres my crash report http://pastebin.com/xVxBAf9G
#1972 [16:01] <jimstapleton> my dad uses it for his business, so does one of my friends for hers. Very reliable.
#1973 [16:01] <Thrae> mohawk: I think you need to update your video card drivers. We can help with that.
#1974 [16:01] <Thrae> ??> mohawk win/dxdiag
#1975 [16:02] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1976 [16:02] <VoxelHead> mohawk: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1977 [16:02] <mohawk> whats irc channel i have the link already http://pastebin.com/xVxBAf9G
#1978 [16:02] <Thrae> mohawk: Please read all of VoxelHead's instructions starting from his first sentence.
#1979 [16:03] <mohawk> oh ok thanks
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#1981 [16:07] <mohawk> ok i did what voxelhead said heres the next link? http://pastebin.com/E1Pvf47G
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#1983 [16:09] <mohawk> whats the irc channel?
#1984 [16:09] <Thrae> mohawk: You're talking on it
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#1986 [16:10] <Thrae> mohawk: Download and install this update to your graphics driver -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20190/a08/Win7Vista_64_151717.exe
#1987 [16:10] <mohawk> ok well heres the next link voxelhead asked for http://pastebin.com/E1Pvf47G
#1988 [16:10] <mohawk> ok
#1989 [16:12] <hatman> hello?
#1990 [16:13] <hatman> anyone there?
#1991 [16:13] <Thrae> hatman: Please state your problem.
#1992 [16:14] <lemon-rev> hatman are you from the other day ???
#1993 [16:14] <lemon-rev> thrae if it is, hes trying to run classic minecraft ,
#1994 [16:14] <hatman> no
#1995 [16:14] <hatman> im trying to run the actual game
#1996 [16:15] <lemon-rev> ok
#1997 [16:15] <hatman> i have a windows vista computer which i brought the game and played it on
#1998 [16:15] <Thrae> lemon-rev: I think it's just a random mibbit name -- there's mib_xxxxx and other random names
#1999 [16:15] <lemon-rev> ok thrae :)
#2000 [16:15] <hatman> then i recently brought a laptop with windows 7 and it won't run
#2001 [16:15] <Thrae> ??> hatman win/dxdiag
#2002 [16:15] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2003 [16:15] <lemon-rev> the launcher you mean
#2004 [16:15] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2005 [16:16] <Thrae> hatman: Run that on your laptop and give us the results.
#2006 [16:16] <hatman> when i play it in browser it loads then when the title screen goes blank
#2007 [16:16] <hatman> and will do
#2008 [16:17] <hatman> wait im confused haha
#2009 [16:17] <Thrae> ?? win/key
#2010 [16:17] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
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#2012 [16:20] <hatman> http://pastebin.com/HtTHjAqQ
#2013 [16:20] <Thrae> hatman: Unfortunately your laptop doesn't have a dedicated graphics chipset...one sec
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#2015 [16:21] <mohawk> hey that driver link said it wasnt for my pc
#2016 [16:21] <hatman> what am i waiting for?
#2017 [16:21] <Thrae> hatman: Download and install this update to your "graphics media accelerator" driver -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20391/a08/Win7Vista_64_152250.exe
#2018 [16:22] <Thrae> mohawk: What was the exact message?
#2019 [16:22] * mariettagecko shoots his computer.
#2019 [16:22] <mohawk> it said not operable for this pc. the link says vista? i have windows 7
#2020 [16:22] <mariettagecko> mohawk: is your computer a Dell machine?
#2021 [16:23] <Thrae> mohawk: Link says both Vista and Windows 7
#2022 [16:23] <mohawk> oh ok
#2023 [16:23] <mariettagecko> mohawk: Is your computer a Dell machine?
#2024 [16:23] <Thrae> mohawk's machine is HP
#2025 [16:23] <mariettagecko> ahhh
#2026 [16:23] <hatman> im downloading that now, how do i update it to my media accelerator specifically? or will it ask where i want to update it to when i run it?
#2027 [16:23] <mariettagecko> Ok, I didn't see that.
#2028 [16:24] <Thrae> hatman: Just run it
#2029 [16:24] <hatman> okay it's taking a while to download though since i'm playing gears of war 3 as you do xD
#2030 [16:25] <hatman> 3 mins left according to this
#2031 [16:25] <mohawk> the exact error says: the driver being installed is not validated for this computer. please obtain the right driver from your computer manafacture. setup will now exit
#2032 [16:26] <Thrae> mohawk: OK, before we go any further, let's try one thing -- download http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraftmx800.bat and place it in the same location as Minecraft.exe, then run the batch file. It should launch Minecraft.
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#2034 [16:28] <hatman> installing now
#2035 [16:28] <hatman> ...
#2036 [16:28] <mohawk> i have minecraft.exe on my desktop so do i put it there?
#2037 [16:28] <Thrae> hatman: Yep
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#2039 [16:28] <Thrae> mohawk: Yep
#2040 [16:28] <hatman> i got the same error as mohawk
#2041 [16:29] <mohawk> ok btw my modem is a hp pavillion slimeline so is there a different driver for that
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#2043 [16:29] <hatman> the driver being installed is not validated for this computer. please obtain the appropriate driver from your computer manafacture. setup will now exit
#2044 [16:29] <Thrae> hatman: OK, go on Toshiba's website and download the drivers there
#2045 [16:29] <hatman> where are the drivers located?
#2046 [16:29] <Dimaryp> Hi. I'm running the Special Character Workaround right now. I was wondering where I install the textures? I can't seem to find the folder.
#2047 [16:30] <Thrae> Dimaryp: I'm not sure how the special character workaround works exactly.
#2048 [16:31] <hatman> is this the right thing? http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/download_drivers_bios.jsp
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#2050 [16:33] <hatman> what does it mean by product type?
#2051 [16:33] <Thrae> hatman: https://support1.toshiba-tro.de/tedd-files2/0/display-20110526160320.zip
#2052 [16:33] <hatman> should it be downloading as a winrar file?
#2053 [16:33] <Thrae> If WinRAR is your default ZIP archive handler
#2054 [16:34] <hatman> yeah... why not... o.O
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#2056 [16:34] <MrMarvLP> hey :D
#2057 [16:35] <hatman> hiya :)
#2058 [16:35] <MrMarvLP> r u guys helping with modding too ?
#2059 [16:35] <Thrae> MrMarvLP: Yes? Please state your problem.
#2060 [16:35] <Thrae> ?? mods
#2061 [16:35] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#2062 [16:35] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2063 [16:35] <MrMarvLP> allright, ty
#2064 [16:35] <mohawk> which driver i download?
#2065 [16:35] <Thrae> mohawk: I asked you to download a batch file and run it.
#2066 [16:36] <mohawk> yes i dit that
#2067 [16:36] <Thrae> mohawk: And what happened?
#2068 [16:36] <hatman> brb whilst it downloads
#2069 [16:36] <mohawk> i have it opened right now
#2070 [16:36] <Thrae> mohawk: So Minecraft is running?
#2071 [16:37] <mohawk> ok i ran it and minecraft opened but it crashed still i think i need to update my pc driver
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#2073 [16:37] <Thrae> mohawk: OK, extract the contents of the driver archive I gave you before and follow these steps to use the Update Driver wizard -- http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ht/update-drivers-windows-7.htm
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#2076 [16:40] <slimer> i saw my friend play minecraft on his asis now i wanna play on my macbook pro but every time i pull up play the game in any form theres just a black box where there should be the game any help????
#2077 [16:40] <Thrae> slimer: Using OS X 10.5.8?
#2078 [16:41] <slimer> OS X 10.6.8
#2079 [16:41] <slimer> updated it yesterday
#2080 [16:42] <Thrae> ??> slimer mac/permissions
#2081 [16:42] <VoxelHead> slimer: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#2082 [16:42] <VoxelHead> slimer: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2083 [16:43] <slimer> and im playing it online havent downloaded it yet
#2084 [16:43] <Thrae> slimer: What version of Java shows up with http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp and is Java functioning properly?
#2085 [16:43] <hatman> i have downloaded the driver now what?
#2086 [16:44] <Thrae> hatman: Install it
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#2089 [16:45] <slimer> yes java is working and it says i have java SE 6 update
#2090 [16:45] <slimer> update # 26
#2091 [16:45] <Mohawkk> thanks my minecraft is now working u guys are the best
#2092 [16:45] * Thrae nods to Mohawkk
#2092 [16:46] <Thrae> slimer: Hmm I can't think of anything off the top of my head...are you trying to play Classic or Beta?
#2093 [16:47] <hatman> i have installed the driver...?
#2094 [16:48] <Thrae> hatman: OK, reboot and then try Minecraft again
#2095 [16:48] <hatman> okay cya in 5
#2096 [16:48] <slimer> i've tried both
#2097 [16:49] <Thrae> slimer: OK, go ahead try installing Minecraft locally from http://www.minecraft.net/download
#2098 [16:50] <slimer> voxelhead: i tried that but it didnt work i think that i need to download it for that, and i wanna try the game before i download it and possibly get a virus
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#2100 [16:50] <slimer> when you install it doesnt it cost money?
#2101 [16:50] <hatman> okay im back and have restarted my laptop
#2102 [16:51] <Thrae> slimer: 1) Minecraft doesn't have any viruses. 2) You're using Mac OS X and there's almost no viruses out there for it.
#2103 [16:51] <hatman> now what just boot minecraft.exe?
#2104 [16:51] <Thrae> slimer: Nope, no additional charge
#2105 [16:51] <Thrae> hatman: Yes
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#2107 [16:52] <hatman> still not working
#2108 [16:52] <Thrae> ??> hatman win/dxdiag
#2109 [16:52] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2110 [16:52] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2111 [16:52] <Thrae> hatman: Let's double-check the driver actually updated.
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#2113 [16:53] <hatman> it installed any folders then when it should of been the title screen it goes black, closes and a java error report appears on my desktop
#2114 [16:53] <ferris> Hey all
#2115 [16:53] <ferris> I have a quick question
#2116 [16:53] <slimer> Thrae: ok cool, i figured there were no virus's for my Mac OS X but i wanted to be careful. so i download it from your link, and it doesnt cost anything right? someone said it cost $20
#2117 [16:53] <Thrae> hatman: Paste the contents of the error report to www.pastebin.com and give us the link
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#2119 [16:53] <ferris> I played Minecraft before you had to pay for premium. I was under the impression that I would still have a premium account permanently
#2120 [16:53] <ferris> Am I wrong?
#2121 [16:53] <Thrae> slimer: If you've already paid for premium then it costs nothing
#2122 [16:54] <ferris> I played before premium ever existed
#2123 [16:54] <Thrae> ferris: Yes, you are wrong. You must pay for Premium. What was originally Minecraft is now Minecraft Classic, which is free, while the Beta is not.
#2124 [16:54] <ferris> lol interesting
#2125 [16:54] <ferris> paying for a beta
#2126 [16:54] <ferris> Ok Thanks
#2127 [16:54] <slimer> Thrae: i've never even really played mine craft bro lol thats why im sooo clueless, sooo yeah idk what premimum is or even does..
#2128 [16:55] <Thrae> ferris: You're paying for a pre-order actually, and if you bought Minecraft while it was in Alpha, you would get all DLCs for free too
#2129 [16:55] <Thrae> slimer: What's your Minecraft username?
#2130 [16:55] <slimer> umm i don't have one i dont think lol
#2131 [16:56] <Thrae> slimer: So you're not actually trying Beta, you're just trying Classic. You need to pay for Beta.
#2132 [16:56] <slimer> should i make one before i download it?
#2133 [16:56] <hatman> okay i will do, should i copy the error report in there to?
#2134 [16:56] <Thrae> http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play versus http://www.minecraft.net/play
#2135 [16:56] <Thrae> hatman: Yeah
#2136 [16:56] <Thrae> hatman: Separate pastes
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#2138 [16:57] <hatman> http://pastebin.com/TT9EDLzV
#2139 [16:57] <hatman> both the dxdiag report and java report are on there
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#2141 [16:57] <slimer> Thrae: thats the problem i tried playing both from http://www.minecraft.net but neither works on my mac sooo before i bought it i wanted to know if it would even work...
#2142 [16:57] <geccy> hi guys
#2143 [16:57] <geccy> im after some help if anyone can?
#2144 [16:58] <Thrae> hatman: Drivers weren't updated. Try using the Update Driver Wizard -- http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ht/update-drivers-windows-7.htm
#2145 [16:58] <Thrae> hatman: If you need further help using the Update Driver wizard you'll have to contact Toshiba.
#2146 [16:58] <hatman> what so i need to redo them both under different links?
#2147 [16:58] <Thrae> slimer: You cannot play Beta without paying, so unless someone gave you a Premium account to try, you can only try out Classic.
#2148 [16:59] <slimer> ok let me try your link if it doesn't work ill brb
#2149 [16:59] <Thrae> hatman: Actually, wait a sec
#2150 [16:59] <Thrae> hatman: Does this laptop have switchable graphics from ATI?
#2151 [17:00] <geccy> whenever i try joining my friends multiplayer server, the server partially loads but then disconnects me after about 5 seconds saying 'java.net.socket.timeout.exception - read timed out'
#2152 [17:00] <geccy> any idea whats wrong?
#2153 [17:00] <hatman> okay then, any information about the error report?
#2154 [17:00] <Calinou> geccy: did your friend correctly forwarded his ports?
#2155 [17:00] <Thrae> hatman: Try installing the ATI Catalyst Software Suite found here -- http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#2156 [17:00] <hatman> i don't know what that means, what am i looking for?
#2157 [17:00] <Calinou> he needs to forward port 25565 in TCP
#2158 [17:01] <geccy> yeah calinou
#2159 [17:01] <geccy> it works fine for everyone except me
#2160 [17:01] <Calinou> geccy: also, tell your friend to type "save-all" in the console
#2161 [17:01] <geccy> there are quite a few on it
#2162 [17:01] <geccy> will do
#2163 [17:01] <Thrae> geccy: Have your friend try deleting your Minecraft username's player file
#2164 [17:01] <geccy> where do i find that?
#2165 [17:01] <hatman> insalled it now what?
#2166 [17:01] <Thrae> geccy: That's on the server
#2167 [17:01] <slimer> Thrae: btw my minecraft account name is "tcrich"
#2168 [17:01] <Thrae> hatman: Reboot and try Minecraft again
#2169 [17:02] <Thrae> !paid tcrich
#2170 [17:02] <hatman> okay
#2171 [17:02] <slimer> Thrae: and i tried to load the classic and it didn't work
#2172 [17:02] <slimer> black screen
#2173 [17:02] <slimer> Thrae: wait you paid for my account to have beta?
#2174 [17:03] <Thrae> slimer: I'm not exactly sure how to diagnose problems with Classic on Mac except to say try Firefox -- http://www.getfirefox.com
#2175 [17:03] <Thrae> slimer: No, that's just checking if you do have Beta, which you don't.
#2176 [17:03] <slimer> Thrae: oh ok you think that if i buy it i would be able to use it>?
#2177 [17:03] <Thrae> slimer: No idea. Try Firefox.
#2178 [17:04] <Thrae> slimer: I think the graphics drivers on your Mac may be messed up, which I know happens on 10.5.8.
#2179 [17:05] <slimer> Thrae: which means what??? and idk what is happening but the fan on my computer got louder like its trying to do something
#2180 [17:05] <geccy> so i tried getting my friend to delete the player file
#2181 [17:05] <geccy> i connected to the server and got the error internal exception: java.net.socketexception - operation timed out'
#2182 [17:05] <geccy> then it d/ced me
#2183 [17:06] <Thrae> slimer: Minecraft in 1.9-pre reduced its requirements to allow Macs with buggy drivers to work, but 1.9 isn't officially released yet, only a pre-release. And we can't test it because you don't have Premium.
#2184 [17:06] <Thrae> geccy: Try a different server
#2185 [17:07] <slimer> Thrae: aww sad face :(
#2186 [17:07] <geccy> ok
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#2188 [17:07] <Thrae> slimer: You can wait for someone like Scott or DopeGhoti who I believe know more about Macs
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#2190 [17:08] <Thrae> slimer: Also, try Firefox
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#2192 [17:09] <slimer> Thrae: what you mean try opening it in firefix as in safari is the problem?
#2193 [17:09] <Thrae> slimer: That's what it'd be testing.
#2194 [17:09] <geccy> Thrae: i tried another server and it worked
#2195 [17:09] <slimer> Thrae: and i downloaded the app and classic runs on my mac and i just created a new world in single player sooo thats working :)
#2196 [17:10] <Thrae> slimer: OK, so probably Beta will work too once downloaded locally, but I can't guarantee it.
#2197 [17:11] <Thrae> geccy: Hmm, try doing a traceroute to your friend and see if there's any problems. Also do 30 pings.
#2198 [17:11] <slimer> ok how can i open firefox as a browser?
#2199 [17:12] <slimer> i know its on my windows computer instead of safari but not on my mac
#2200 [17:12] <Thrae> slimer: Sorry, like I said, I'm not a Mac expert by any means
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#2202 [17:12] <MUDKIP> hey it's hatman
#2203 [17:12] <MUDKIP> changed name
#2204 [17:13] <MUDKIP> easier to distinguish this one
#2205 [17:13] <Thrae> MUDKIP: Still having problems?
#2206 [17:13] <geccy> ok thrae, i did the traceroute
#2207 [17:13] <geccy> no problems
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#2210 [17:17] <hatman> hello?
#2211 [17:17] <Thrae> hatman: Yes?
#2212 [17:18] <hatman> still crashes and gives me the error report
#2213 [17:18] <geccy> any other tests for me to do?
#2214 [17:18] <geccy> :(
#2215 [17:18] <Thrae> hatman: OK, are there any stickers on your laptop which say ATI or AMD?
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#2217 [17:18] <bayoucougar> How come u cant change ur email?
#2218 [17:18] <bayoucougar> im kinda pissed bout it
#2219 [17:19] <Thrae> ?? accounts
#2220 [17:19] <VoxelHead> accounts: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
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#2222 [17:19] <Thrae> We're just volunteers
#2223 [17:19] <bayoucougar> all it said was they dont support this action when i did the support thing-_-
#2224 [17:19] <guest-0-78092> excuse me, is there anyone that can help me with this? bad packet id 230
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#2226 [17:20] <guest-0-78092> i'm trying to install redpower 2.0
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#2228 [17:20] <Thrae> ?? mods
#2229 [17:20] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#2230 [17:20] <VoxelHead> mods: You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
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#2232 [17:20] <GreyMatter> Just reformatted my Ubuntu computer, can anyone remind me what the coe is to run Minecraft from the terminal?
#2233 [17:20] <hatman> no stickers or any useful information sorry
#2234 [17:20] <guest-0-78092> ok, so i have to ask in #risucraft?
#2235 [17:20] <Thrae> GreyMatter: It's on http://www.minecraft.net/download
#2236 [17:21] <bayoucougar> wait do u guys work for mojang?
#2237 [17:21] <GreyMatter> oh I must have missed it I am sorry
#2238 [17:21] <Thrae> hatman: OK, when you go to Control Panel, is there a Catalyst Control Center or ATI or AMD or anything like that
#2239 [17:21] <Thrae> bayoucougar: Nope, we don't -- we're volunteers
#2240 [17:21] <bayoucougar> oh cool how did you become one?
#2241 [17:22] <hatman> where should it be located on the control panel?
#2242 [17:22] <Thrae> I just started helping people in this channel
#2243 [17:22] <Thrae> hatman: Switch to Classic View / Large Icons
#2244 [17:22] <bayoucougar> oh i see okay ima go cy'all thanks anyways though:)
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#2246 [17:23] <hatman> nothing i can see
#2247 [17:23] <Thrae> ??< win/nodxdiag
#2248 [17:24] <Thrae> ??> hatman win/nodxdiag
#2249 [17:24] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/nodxdiag) In rare cases where dxdiag won't work, you can try using msinfo32 instead. Press the Win+R keys, and type "msinfo32.exe" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. Once it has finished loading, click "File -> Export" button, name it to info.txt (or any other file name) and save it to your desktop.
#2250 [17:24] <GreyMatter> Thrae I am sorry but I still don't see it
#2251 [17:24] <VoxelHead> hatman: (win/nodxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2252 [17:24] <Thrae> hatman: I want to make sure this laptop doesn't have switchable graphics
#2253 [17:24] <hatman> which one am i doing?
#2254 [17:24] <hatman> nodxdiag or msinfo32?
#2255 [17:25] <Thrae> hatman: msinfo32, "nodxdiag" is just VoxelHead's specific keyword
#2256 [17:25] <slimer> thanks you guys rock its working!
#2257 [17:26] <Thrae> GreyMatter: "Download minecraft.jar (89 KB). The jar is executable and might work as-is. If you run into memory issues, try launching it with java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame, also please use Sun's JVM."
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#2260 [17:27] <Buhrewno> hey everyone
#2261 [17:27] <Thrae> GreyMatter: Just change that to "-cp minecraft.jar" as Linux is case-sensitive
#2262 [17:27] <Buhrewno> anyone mind helping me with a server problem really quick?
#2263 [17:27] <Thrae> Buhrewno: Depends on the problem
#2264 [17:28] <Buhrewno> well, in command prompt when i go to launch the server, it says like "thread main exception blah"
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#2266 [17:28] <Buhrewno> i can be more specific if you need
#2267 [17:28] <Cookks> Haii
#2268 [17:28] <Thrae> Buhrewno: Copy the error to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#2269 [17:28] <Cookks> Is there a software to hack MC accounts ? Someone says hes gonna hack me ;'(
#2270 [17:28] <Buhrewno> hmm.. is it possible to copy from a command prompt?
#2271 [17:29] <hatman> http://pastebin.com/jpyWiQ3x
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#2273 [17:29] <Cookks> Someone ?
#2274 [17:29] <lemon-rev> cookks theres a way to hack your computer but not hack mc accounts as of yet that we know of
#2275 [17:29] <Thrae> Buhrewno: If you're using Windows you can just do something like "command > C:\results.txt"
#2276 [17:29] <GreyMatter> that looks nothing like I was doing it before but I will try
#2277 [17:29] <Buhrewno> yeah, nevermind
#2278 [17:29] <Buhrewno> http://pastebin.com/9pBHrJUv
#2279 [17:29] <guest-0-42099> hi there, can anyone help me running mo's creature mod on 1.9 pre release 3?
#2280 [17:29] <Thrae> ??> guest-0-42099 mods
#2281 [17:29] <VoxelHead> guest-0-42099: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#2282 [17:29] <VoxelHead> guest-0-42099: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2283 [17:30] <Cookks> lemon-rev so he saying that he will hack my account is probably just lying ?
#2284 [17:30] <guest-0-42099> kk thx ;o
#2285 [17:30] <hatman> http://pastebin.com/jpyWiQ3x
#2286 [17:30] <Buhrewno> any info you can gather from that, thrae?
#2287 [17:30] <lemon-rev> cookks if he can access your computer then all he as to do is, wait till you log in, or type your password, not saying hes lying just anther way of doing things
#2288 [17:30] <Thrae> hatman: Go to Programs and Features and uninstall anything that says AMD or ATI there
#2289 [17:31] <Cookks> ;'(, i hope hes just lying
#2290 [17:31] <Cookks> admin banned wrong person instead of him ;'(
#2291 [17:31] <Thrae> Buhrewno: Is this on 1.8.1 vanilla?
#2292 [17:31] <lemon-rev> cookks for your sake i hope so too
#2293 [17:31] <Buhrewno> yes
#2294 [17:31] <Cookks> thnx ;'(
#2295 [17:32] <Thrae> Buhrewno: Hmm, I would delete the local Minecraft files and let Minecraft_Server.exe re-download
#2296 [17:32] <Buhrewno> thrae alright, thanks.. if that doesn't work i'll let you know
#2297 [17:33] <hatman> Adobe AIR?
#2298 [17:33] <Thrae> hatman: Nope, AMD or ATI
#2299 [17:34] <hatman> aha
#2300 [17:34] <hatman> windows driver package - ATI technologies Inc.
#2301 [17:34] <hatman> what about that?
#2302 [17:34] <Thrae> Yep, get rid of that
#2303 [17:35] <Thrae> hatman: After it uninstalls, reboot and try Minecraft again
#2304 [17:35] <hatman> right unistalled them both
#2305 [17:35] <hatman> okay then
#2306 [17:36] <Buhrewno> thrae thank you very much, that helped
#2307 [17:36] * Thrae nods to Buhrewno
#2307 [17:36] <Buhrewno> have a nice day
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#2312 [17:43] <hatman> hey guess what?!
#2313 [17:43] <hatman> still nothing -_-
#2314 [17:44] <Vazhi> I seem to be having trouble connecting to minecraft.net through the client despite being able to login on the website. Any thoughts?
#2315 [17:44] <Vazhi> keeps saying can't connect
#2316 [17:44] <Vazhi> I've never had a problem before
#2317 [17:45] <hatman> hello?
#2318 [17:45] <Vazhi> hi there
#2319 [17:46] <Vazhi> oh ok nvm I fixed it
#2320 [17:46] <Vazhi> deleted the old client and redownloaded
#2321 [17:47] <hatman> hello anyone?
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#2323 [17:49] <Daihak> hey guys so nub question now that my servers running how do I accually play on it lol
#2324 [17:49] <Daihak> whats that universal ip again?? 127.somthing.somthing.1
#2325 [17:50] <hatman> no ones here :/
#2326 [17:50] <Daihak> well now im sad
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#2328 [17:51] <Buhrewno> can someone link me to the risumod channel?
#2329 [17:52] <Daihak> aah found it 127.0.0.1
#2330 [17:52] <Daihak> HOME :D
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#2332 [17:55] <hatman> SCREW YOU GUYS :(
#2333 [17:56] <hatman> ill be back on tomorrow don't you worryt
#2334 [17:56] <hatman> ;)
#2335 [17:58] <Scott> Daihak: universal IP? lol
#2336 [17:58] <Scott> that is local loopback
#2337 [18:00] <Daihak> the home ip
#2338 [18:00] <Daihak> 127.0.0.1
#2339 [18:00] <Daihak> can host server form it
#2340 [18:00] <Daihak> from*
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#2343 [18:00] <Daihak> how do I load certain seeds to my server?
#2344 [18:01] <Daihak> ugh I need a how to for mnecraft server operation ><
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#2346 [18:02] <Daihak> hmm
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#2349 [18:07] <Daihak> how do I unlock the selection in my server specs to change the seed and stuff
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#2351 [18:08] <Buhrewno> where do i go for modsupport on a server?
#2352 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> try #bukkit
#2353 [18:10] <Daihak> vulpine
#2354 [18:11] <Daihak> when I use 127.0.0.1 to host a server what to I give to other sto join it ?
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#2357 [18:13] <simab> hello"?
#2358 [18:14] <simab> ?
#2359 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - Your public IP address?
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#2361 [18:15] <Daihak> how do I find that lol I forget where to go
#2362 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> whatismyip.com
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#2364 [18:16] <mariettagecko> Daihak: Are they on your same physical network, or somewhere out on the Internet?
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#2370 [18:30] <mib_pinze7> can one of you help?
#2371 [18:30] <mib_pinze7> ???
#2372 [18:31] <mariettagecko> ?? ask
#2373 [18:31] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2374 [18:31] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2375 [18:32] <mib_pinze7> ok so i tried downloading the toomany items mon for 1.7 and did everything the video instructed but it did not work
#2376 [18:32] <mariettagecko> You're asking about trying to get a mod to work?
#2377 [18:32] <mib_pinze7> mod*
#2378 [18:32] <mib_pinze7> yes???
#2379 [18:33] <mib_pinze7> is that ok
#2380 [18:33] <mariettagecko> ??> mib_pinze7 mods
#2381 [18:33] <VoxelHead> mib_pinze7: (mods) This channel is not a venue for support with third-party mods. For assistance with Bukkit, check #Bukkit.
#2382 [18:33] <VoxelHead> mib_pinze7: (mods) You will find a lot of information here: http://tiny.cc/modinstall Also, for further assistance with many other mods, check #risucraft - mod help here is more likely once the official API is revealed.
#2383 [18:33] <mib_pinze7> thank you
#2384 [18:34] <mariettagecko> In your case, risucraft will likely be able to help.
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#2386 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> risucraft isn't doing mod support anymore, so we've heard
#2387 [18:35] <mariettagecko> oh?
#2388 [18:35] <mariettagecko> So who is?
#2389 [18:36] * GreyVulpine thinks they got tired of all the "How do I get this mod to work", "Why isn't this mod working", "When will X be updated"
#2389 [18:36] <mariettagecko> hehehe
#2390 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Really.. best place now, is google
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#2393 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> The instructions are there, they just gotta read them
#2394 [18:36] <mariettagecko> True
#2395 [18:36] <mariettagecko> Might want to update the FAQ, then.
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#2397 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. I'll get around to it later
#2398 [18:37] * GreyVulpine heads off for a bit
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#2399 [18:38] <mariettagecko> Have fun.
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#2401 [18:44] <OpTiicFanboy> hello?
#2402 [18:44] <OpTiicFanboy> can anyone help m?
#2403 [18:45] <OpTiicFanboy> me*
#2404 [18:45] <OpTiicFanboy> helllllllllllllllllllllllllllllo?
#2405 [18:46] <OpTiicFanboy> so can you help me?
#2406 [18:46] <Sardonicus> lol
#2407 [18:46] <JohnEBH> ??> OpTiicFanboy dont/spam
#2408 [18:46] <VoxelHead> OpTiicFanboy: (dont/spam) We can hear you just fine, and your text does not disappear automagically. Please do not spam the same thing over and over again.
#2409 [18:46] <JohnEBH> ??> OpTiicFanboy ask
#2410 [18:46] <VoxelHead> OpTiicFanboy: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2411 [18:46] <OpTiicFanboy> okay
#2412 [18:46] <VoxelHead> OpTiicFanboy: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2413 [18:46] <OpTiicFanboy> now this is spam..
#2414 [18:47] <JohnEBH> OpTiicFanboy- Define your definition of spam
#2415 [18:47] <OpTiicFanboy> i need to know how to make a irc bot for classic
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#2417 [18:47] <mariettagecko> ...
#2418 [18:47] * b0xxy [b0xxy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2419 [18:47] <OpTiicFanboy> or how to make a message appear when someone types your name
#2420 [18:48] <OpTiicFanboy> ...
#2421 [18:48] <mariettagecko> Ummm.
#2422 [18:48] <mariettagecko> Are you asking for support with IRC configuration?
#2423 [18:48] <mariettagecko> That is, IRC client config?
#2424 [18:48] <mariettagecko> If so, this isn't the right place for that.
#2425 [18:48] <OpTiicFanboy> -_-
#2426 [18:49] <OpTiicFanboy> everyone keeps bumping me around
#2427 [18:49] <Skandis> Yes, its cause noone gets paid to "support you"
#2428 [18:49] <JohnEBH> He want's his MC Classic Server to connect to his IRC Channel.
#2429 [18:49] <OpTiicFanboy> yup
#2430 [18:49] <mariettagecko> ummm.
#2431 [18:49] <OpTiicFanboy> that 2
#2432 [18:49] <mariettagecko> I wasn't even aware that was possible.
#2433 [18:49] <JohnEBH> I see no possible way using classic because I don't run classic =P
#2434 [18:49] <OpTiicFanboy> crap g2g
#2435 [18:49] <Skandis> Anyhow
#2436 [18:50] <mariettagecko> Can it be done for Beta?
#2437 [18:50] <JohnEBH> Bukkit + CraftIRC
#2438 [18:50] <Skandis> I lost my password, and I cant get it to my email. Prolly since my hotmail expired, and I remade it
#2439 [18:50] <mariettagecko> hmmm, but you have to use bukkit.
#2440 [18:50] <JohnEBH> ??> Skandis support
#2441 [18:50] <VoxelHead> Skandis: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#2442 [18:50] <mariettagecko> what VoxelHead said.
#2443 [18:50] <JohnEBH> Skandis- Best answer I can give you =P
#2444 [18:51] <Skandis> Support page stinks, and can't help me
#2445 [18:51] <Skandis> There is nothing there that helps me
#2446 [18:51] <Skandis> "We apologize but we do not currently support this action, for your protection."
#2447 [18:51] <mariettagecko> hmmm.
#2448 [18:51] <JohnEBH> Skandis- Give me a second
#2449 [18:51] <JohnEBH> Or more
#2450 [18:51] <mariettagecko> this could be difficult.
#2451 [18:51] * JohnEBH disagrees
#2451 [18:52] <JohnEBH> Skandis- http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#2452 [18:52] <JohnEBH> wait.
#2453 [18:52] <JohnEBH> nvm
#2454 [18:52] <Skandis> The issue is that I dont get an email
#2455 [18:52] <Skandis> :/
#2456 [18:52] <mariettagecko> Yeah, that's where the difficulty is.
#2457 [18:52] <Skandis> I could validate it with my username and CC or whatnot
#2458 [18:52] <JohnEBH> You remade it using the same name and everything right?
#2459 [18:52] <Skandis> But it requires an actual person
#2460 [18:52] <Skandis> Yep
#2461 [18:53] <JohnEBH> It should work then, as long as the address is the same.
#2462 [18:53] <TheBadShepperd> <Skandis> Yes, its cause noone gets paid to "support you" <-- No, it's because asking in network related help channels is bad.
#2463 [18:53] <Skandis> See, I can request my username to my mail
#2464 [18:53] <Skandis> and I've literally had the inbox open
#2465 [18:53] <Skandis> But I dont get it
#2466 [18:53] <Skandis> or well "a username registerd to my mail"
#2467 [18:53] <Skandis> Which kinda confirms my theory
#2468 [18:54] * JohnEBH offers Skandis 50% off on his second Minecraft purchase
#2468 [18:54] <JohnEBH> lol If only I could
#2469 [18:56] <mariettagecko> My theory is that the email address is somehow different from the original.
#2470 [18:56] <mariettagecko> The other possible option would be that the email is going into a junk folder.
#2471 [18:56] <mariettagecko> I assume you have checked your junk folder?
#2472 [18:56] <Skandis> duh.
#2473 [18:56] <mariettagecko> Just making sure.
#2474 [18:57] <Skandis> I've also tried requesting the thing on like 10 seperate occasions over several weeks
#2475 [18:57] <Daihak> OoOO youve captured my attentiooooon ..
#2476 [18:57] <Skandis> the minecraft site confirms my e-mail has an account attached to it
#2477 [18:57] <Skandis> So I SHOULD get an email with my account name, although irrelevant
#2478 [18:57] <Skandis> but I dont
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#2480 [18:58] <JohnEBH> Not me ^
#2481 [18:58] <JohnEBH> I swear
#2482 [18:58] <mariettagecko> hmmm
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#2484 [18:59] <Skandis> Just have to make sure
#2485 [18:59] <Skandis> hrm
#2486 [18:59] <Skandis> Got an idea
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#2489 [19:02] <Magicman5443> CAn someone tell me how to fix this error--------->MInecraft server error internal exception:Java.io.IOException: receoved string langth longer than maximum allowed (100>107)
#2490 [19:02] <JohnEBH> Magicman5443- Pastebin
#2491 [19:02] <mariettagecko> Magicman5443: Do you know what was happening before you did that?
#2492 [19:02] <JohnEBH> ??> mariettagecko pastebin
#2493 [19:02] <VoxelHead> mariettagecko: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2494 [19:03] <Magicman5443> No its been mothes
#2495 [19:03] <mariettagecko> I'm sorry, it's been what?
#2496 [19:03] <JohnEBH> Months*
#2497 [19:03] <Magicman5443> Ya
#2498 [19:04] <mariettagecko> Magicman5443: ok, have you tried updating the server and running it again
#2499 [19:04] <mariettagecko> See if it's still happening?
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#2501 [19:05] <Magicman5443> IT is not my server and yes
#2502 [19:06] <Magicman5443> This is the error------> internal exception:Java.io.IOException: received string length longer than maximum allowed (100>107)
#2503 [19:06] <JohnEBH> Magicman5443- When does it occur? When a user joins the server? When a certain block is placed? Upon server start?
#2504 [19:06] <TheNytangel> JohnEBH, I have a torch job for you
#2505 [19:07] <JohnEBH> LEAVE ME ALONE TheNytangel T-T
#2506 [19:07] <TheNytangel> :P
#2507 [19:07] <Magicman5443> Wjem i try to join
#2508 [19:07] <Magicman5443> And this is the pastebin link http://pastebin.com/aGV8m0k9
#2509 [19:07] <TheNytangel> Magicman5443, false. 100<107, not >
#2510 [19:07] <JohnEBH> Magicman5443- Happen to be using a cracked launcher and using a name more than 107 chracters long?
#2511 [19:07] <JohnEBH> Characters*
#2512 [19:07] <Magicman5443> o whoops
#2513 [19:08] <Magicman5443> NO my username is magicman5443 and i paid for the game and got the launcher from the mewsite
#2514 [19:08] <Magicman5443> IL tell you the ip
#2515 [19:08] <Magicman5443> mc.pwegoable.com
#2516 [19:08] <JohnEBH> !paid magicman5443
#2517 [19:09] <JohnEBH> !check mc.pwegoable.com
#2518 [19:09] <JohnEBH> Port? =P
#2519 [19:09] <Magicman5443> No port
#2520 [19:09] <JohnEBH> Doesn't seem to be up, is it down as we speak?
#2521 [19:09] <JohnEBH> !check mc.pwegoable.com
#2522 [19:09] <Magicman5443> No
#2523 [19:09] <JohnEBH> Nvm
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#2525 [19:10] <JohnEBH> You're using this launcher right?
#2526 [19:10] <JohnEBH> !client
#2527 [19:10] <Magicman5443> Yes
#2528 [19:10] <Robbytty> may someone please help me.
#2529 [19:10] <JohnEBH> ??> Robbytty ask
#2530 [19:10] <VoxelHead> Robbytty: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
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#2532 [19:10] <VoxelHead> Robbytty: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2533 [19:10] <Robbytty> alright.
#2534 [19:10] <Robbytty> well i'd like to just copy and paste the error report.
#2535 [19:10] <Magicman5443> Heres the link to error http://pastebin.com/aGV8m0k9
#2536 [19:11] <JohnEBH> Magicman5443- Try using spout, not sure if it'll help. http://spout.in/jar
#2537 [19:11] <Robbytty> http://mibpaste.com/soM7Xe
#2538 [19:11] <JohnEBH> Magicman5443- It's a launcher as well
#2539 [19:11] <Magicman5443> O ok
#2540 [19:11] <Magicman5443> HOw do i open it
#2541 [19:11] <Magicman5443> its a jar file
#2542 [19:11] <JohnEBH> ??> Robbytty win/dxdiag
#2543 [19:11] <VoxelHead> Robbytty: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2544 [19:11] <VoxelHead> Robbytty: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2545 [19:11] <JohnEBH> Magicman5443- Just double click and launch =P
#2546 [19:12] <Magicman5443> And robby if tested this on many pcs and it works on other accounts
#2547 [19:12] <Magicman5443> How do i launch a jar fire...
#2548 [19:12] <Magicman5443> NVm
#2549 [19:12] <Robbytty> http://pastebin.com/U8QNcySx
#2550 [19:13] <JohnEBH> Robbytty- I sent you new instructions =P
#2551 [19:13] <JohnEBH> ??> Robbytty win/dxdiag
#2552 [19:13] <Robbytty> oh
#2553 [19:13] <VoxelHead> Robbytty: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2554 [19:13] <VoxelHead> Robbytty: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2556 [19:13] <Magicman5443> WHats dif abount spoutcraft
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#2558 [19:14] <Magicman5443> Nope dosent work
#2559 [19:15] <JohnEBH> Magicman5443- Not sure what's wrong then... Something you can submit to Mojang maybe?
#2560 [19:15] <JohnEBH> ??> Magicman5443 support
#2561 [19:15] <VoxelHead> Magicman5443: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#2562 [19:15] <Magicman5443> I cant find out where to send this
#2563 [19:15] <Skandis> Exactly how does one contact mojang?
#2564 [19:15] <Robbytty> http://pastebin.com/uZ89QZUc
#2565 [19:16] <JohnEBH> Skandis- Dunno =P
#2566 [19:16] <JohnEBH> Robbytty- that isn't everything xD
#2567 [19:17] <JohnEBH> Robbytty- It's missing a lot of information\
#2568 [19:17] <Robbytty> alright, one sec i'll do it again lol
#2569 [19:19] <Robbytty> http://pastebin.com/zUr0Jm7F
#2570 [19:19] <Robbytty> there :P
#2571 [19:20] <JohnEBH> Grabbing drivers =P
#2572 [19:20] <Robbytty> ok :o
#2573 [19:21] <JohnEBH> Robbytty- https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/10-2_legacy_vista32-64_dd_ccc.exe
#2574 [19:21] <Robbytty> i came in here about a week ago and someone gave me the link to a dell driver dl webstite
#2575 [19:21] <JohnEBH> Download and install =P
#2576 [19:21] <Robbytty> and it wasn't letting me dl any drivers
#2577 [19:22] <Robbytty> it's saying Unauthorized Download
#2578 [19:23] <JohnEBH> Hmmm
#2579 [19:23] <JohnEBH> Odd
#2580 [19:23] <Robbytty> nvm im dling something
#2581 [19:23] <Robbytty> a driver*
#2582 [19:23] <JohnEBH> Alright, it's probably IE right?
#2583 [19:24] <Robbytty> what do I do once it's fled :x
#2584 [19:24] <Robbytty> dled*
#2585 [19:24] <JohnEBH> Install!
#2586 [19:24] <Robbytty> it's called AMD catlyst
#2587 [19:25] <JohnEBH> Yup
#2588 [19:26] <Robbytty> sorry, iv'e been trying to do this for over month, so if im asking a lot of questions it's because i just wanna do it right lol.
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#2591 [19:33] <Robbytty> JohnEBH, It says I have the latist driver installed for my system.
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#2594 [19:36] <Robbytty> nvm
#2595 [19:36] <Robbytty> i got it to work
#2596 [19:36] <Robbytty> tyvm for your help.
#2597 [19:38] <sluggo> Need some help please. Just signed up for a new account and nothing is working, the browser loads but hangs on a white screen and the zip file is empty.
#2598 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> sluggo: what OS are you running?
#2599 [19:38] <sluggo> 10.6
#2600 [19:39] <sluggo> sorry i meant osx
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#2603 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> ??> sluggo mac/reinst/tool
#2604 [19:43] <VoxelHead> sluggo: (mac/reinst/tool) Here is a helpful tool to purge the preinstalled files for you: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Minecraft_Reinstall.dmg
#2605 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> sluggo: try that tool.
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#2607 [19:45] <ImAWizrd> Anyone alive in here?
#2608 [19:46] <ImAWizrd> Anyone?
#2609 [19:46] <Skandis> yep
#2610 [19:46] <ImAWizrd> Are you able to help?
#2611 [19:46] <Skandis> depends
#2612 [19:46] <ImAWizrd> Well, I've made a video detailing my problem
#2613 [19:46] <ImAWizrd> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwXza6DNIjQ
#2614 [19:47] <ImAWizrd> Its like 3 mins long
#2615 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> unlike your patience.
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#2617 [19:47] <ImAWizrd> I accidentally closed winodw 0.o
#2618 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> Might help to wait more than three minutes
#2619 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> :p
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#2621 [19:48] <ImAWizrd> Say whatttt?
#2622 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> 16:46 < ImAWizrd> | Its like 3 mins long
#2623 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> 16:46 -!- ImAWizrd [~ImAWizrd@host-2-97-109-22.as13285.net] has quit [Client Quit]
#2624 [19:49] <Skandis> Well
#2625 [19:49] <ImAWizrd> Oh right
#2626 [19:49] <Skandis> You could use /k to not have the prompt auto close
#2627 [19:49] <ImAWizrd> Lmao, I accidentally closed the window :P
#2628 [19:49] <ImAWizrd> But yeah, you watched the vid?
#2629 [19:49] <Skandis> am
#2630 [19:49] <ImAWizrd> Ok, thanks :)
#2631 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> okay, in the batch file
#2632 [19:49] <Skandis> Even if it says low on ram, have you tried just connecting?
#2633 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> rather than just "java -Xms[et ceters"
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#2635 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> use '"C:\Program Files\Java\bin\java" -Xms[et cetera]'
#2636 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> in other words, specify the complete path to the java.exe file
#2637 [19:50] <ImAWizrd> Um....What? :L
#2638 [19:50] <ImAWizrd> So, I sould create a batch file with that^ code?
#2639 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> edit the batch file you made at ~60sec into your video
#2640 [19:51] <ImAWizrd> Ok, one sec, need to recreate it :L
#2641 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> and replace 'java' with the full path to 'java.exe'
#2642 [19:51] <ImAWizrd> Ok...
#2643 [19:51] <ImAWizrd> Brb
#2644 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> which, IIRC, is "C:\Program Files\Java\bin\java.exe"'
#2645 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> but I haven't used Windows in ages, so I couldn't swear to it.
#2646 [19:52] <Skandis> theres one thing I thought about
#2647 [19:52] <Skandis> You closed your server before attempting to connect to it
#2648 [19:52] <Skandis> You kinda need to have that app running
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#2650 [19:52] <ImAWizrd> Do you?
#2651 [19:52] <ImAWizrd> Lmfao
#2652 [19:52] <ImAWizrd> One sec
#2653 [19:53] <Skandis> Easiest is to check the server log for a connection :P
#2654 [19:53] <ImAWizrd> ....Derp
#2655 [19:54] <ImAWizrd> I just needed it running :L:L
#2656 [19:54] <Skandis> I'm a genious
#2657 [19:54] <ImAWizrd> Thanks anyway guys :l Fell free to watch my Pokemon lets plays, if your feeling immature, and in need of a british accent
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#2662 [20:01] <ferminter> need help! minecraft performance is aweful and my pc is nice! what to do?
#2663 [20:01] <Magicman5443> Anyone help me with this error--------> internal exception:Java.io.IOException: received string length longer than maximum allowed (100>107)
#2664 [20:02] <lemon-rev> magic java.com < update
#2665 [20:02] <Planck> ferminter: That's funny. For me minecraft performance is okay and my pc is terrible
#2666 [20:02] <lemon-rev> fermented windows ?
#2667 [20:02] <Magicman5443> What iv tryed this on many pcs its someting with my accout not java
#2668 [20:02] <ferminter> windows 7
#2669 [20:02] <lemon-rev> ??> ferminter win/dxdiag
#2670 [20:03] <VoxelHead> ferminter: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2671 [20:03] <VoxelHead> ferminter: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2672 [20:03] <lemon-rev> Magicman5443 can you do the same please
#2673 [20:03] <Magicman5443> What
#2674 [20:03] <lemon-rev> dxdiagh
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#2676 [20:03] <ferminter> ok
#2677 [20:03] <Magicman5443> What???
#2678 [20:03] <Magicman5443> Ok
#2679 [20:04] <Magicman5443> IT came out with a window saying do you want to check your drivers??
#2680 [20:04] <lemon-rev> yes and you say yes
#2681 [20:05] <soccer21> I am having a problem playing my game every time i try to log in i have an error message saying it can't connect to minecraft servers. so I have been having to play in browser. How can i fix it so i dont have to play in browser?
#2682 [20:05] <Skandis> Port forward
#2683 [20:05] <Magicman5443> HEre http://pastebin.com/2030psbG
#2684 [20:06] <lemon-rev> soccer21 unless you know how to do a check with your antivirus and your firewall
#2685 [20:06] <lemon-rev> yea
#2686 [20:06] <lemon-rev> ty magic
#2687 [20:06] <Magicman5443> No prob
#2688 [20:06] <Magicman5443> i just really like this server and i get a error :(
#2689 [20:06] <lemon-rev> hm, connecting to the server or just in general ?
#2690 [20:06] <Magicman5443> Server
#2691 [20:07] <Magicman5443> i can login to other servers find just not this one
#2692 [20:07] <lemon-rev> then its the version number vs your version number or maybe mod its running
#2693 [20:07] <soccer21> I have done a virus scan and it found nothing, but what do i need to check about my firewall?
#2694 [20:07] <Magicman5443> and iv tryed on many pcs and none work but my friends tryed on the same pc and worked fine
#2695 [20:07] <ferminter> http://pastebin.com/4Bh9P3vK
#2696 [20:08] <Magicman5443> Version number??
#2697 [20:08] <lemon-rev> Magicman5443 i have or cant help you with connection issues when your trying to connect on your pc, that could be something else, not sure if i could help you on that
#2698 [20:09] <lemon-rev> magic yes ie 1.8 vs 1.8.1
#2699 [20:09] <lemon-rev> and so on
#2700 [20:09] <Magicman5443> iv tryed on 1.7.3 also when 1.8 dident come out
#2701 [20:10] <Magicman5443> I know its not that becuase my friends played on the same version number as i did
#2702 [20:10] <lemon-rev> Magicman5443 then i dont know what version of mc that sserver is running i cant help you also if you really wanted to ATI Radeon HD 4200 < thats your video card please update it via ati
#2703 [20:10] <lemon-rev> ??> ferminter win/reinst
#2704 [20:10] <Magicman5443> I just got this pc like 2 weeks ago
#2705 [20:10] <VoxelHead> ferminter: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2706 [20:10] <VoxelHead> ferminter: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2707 [20:10] <Magicman5443> and if i did update it how do i do that
#2708 [20:10] <lemon-rev> Magicman5443 you need to update your video drivers it could be the trouble, otherwise i cant help you via smp
#2709 [20:11] <Magicman5443> HOw do i update
#2710 [20:11] <lemon-rev> ati.com < head there choose your video card and get the download and run it
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#2712 [20:11] <Magicman5443> OK what choic shud i pick
#2713 [20:11] <lemon-rev> well you know what your video card is select from the boxes thaat drop down,
#2714 [20:12] <Magicman5443> Ok im to lazy
#2715 [20:12] <Magicman5443> BYES
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#2720 [20:17] <soccer21> when the update came out for 1.8 my game could not connect to the minecraft.net so i didn't up day and now i can't play except in browser
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#2723 [20:20] <soccer21> how do i get my game to work again
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#2725 [20:21] <ferminter> the game is laggy anyway.. after reinstaling
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#2727 [20:24] <ferminter> some one help
#2728 [20:24] <floyd> So I want to play minecraft classic in my browser to see what the game is like, but I'm getting a java error (XP), yet my java is up to date and non corrupt. Any ideas?
#2729 [20:26] <ferminter> my minecraft is hell laggy some 1 help plz
#2730 [20:27] <floyd> Well I guess I saved 20 dollars :p Any takers?
#2731 [20:28] <lemon-rev> ferminter try turning off your opengl in video options in mc
#2732 [20:29] <ferminter> its turned off
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#2734 [20:29] <lemon-rev> ferminter also change your viewing distance from far to normal or near
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#2738 [20:44] <TheNytangel> I'll be back on later
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#2750 [21:22] <TheNytangel> Ok, so I get .64 download and .20 upload (Mbps). Other people offer 100 download and 15 upload..... I feel like we have bad internet
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#2754 [21:24] <BrowserBowser> Is Minecon livestreamed?
#2755 [21:24] <TheNytangel> You will have to find out when the day comes
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#2757 [21:27] <masterman> i am having TONS of trouble buying minecraft!
#2758 [21:28] <masterman> first i got a pre-paid visa that didnt work, it said its diabled for 24 hours, then i tried my dads master card and the same thing happened, WHY?
#2759 [21:28] <masterman> anyone home?
#2760 [21:31] <masterman> is anyone here ?
#2761 [21:31] <masterman> :'(
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#2763 [21:36] <DreamingInsane> masterman, some Pre-paid credit cards block foreign purchases
#2764 [21:36] <DreamingInsane> Including Visa.
#2765 [21:36] <masterman> yea but why would my mastercard do the exact same thing?
#2766 [21:37] <DreamingInsane> As for your father's card, I'm not quite sure
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#2768 [21:38] <masterman> ?
#2769 [21:38] <masterman> :( then how do i buy it
#2770 [21:39] <DreamingInsane> Not sure, maybe go down to the bank and ask or call.
#2771 [21:39] <masterman> hm
#2772 [21:39] <DreamingInsane> Hopefully they'll have an answer for you
#2773 [21:39] <masterman> call them for me :P
#2774 [21:39] <masterman> ;)
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#2776 [21:39] <masterman> ill go look for a gift code generator instead :D jkjk
#2777 [21:39] <DreamingInsane> That would probably require me knowing your father's credit card info
#2778 [21:39] <DreamingInsane> :P
#2779 [21:40] <masterman> ok by ty
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#2803 [23:06] <Gazionetadmin> hey
#2804 [23:06] <Gazionetadmin> does anyone know when 1.9 will be out?
#2805 [23:06] <Gazionetadmin> could it be out this month soon
#2806 [23:07] <lemon-rev> 1.9 will prob be out before minecon, but we are still holding out
#2807 [23:08] <Gazionetadmin> after the full version comes out will notch continue making minecraft updates?
#2808 [23:08] <lemon-rev> its hard to tell since notch isnt the one working on it atm, its jeb
#2809 [23:09] <Gazionetadmin> is there going to be a forth prerelease?
#2810 [23:09] <Gazionetadmin> please say no -_- why can'
#2811 [23:09] <Gazionetadmin> *can't people wait untill its out>
#2812 [23:09] <lemon-rev> notch already stated that theres going to be a 1.10 now, just read the fourms please
#2813 [23:09] <Gazionetadmin> *out
#2814 [23:09] <Gazionetadmin> they banned me
#2815 [23:09] <Gazionetadmin> im not going into details why
#2816 [23:09] <lemon-rev> not if you just visit minecraftfoumrs.com
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#2818 [23:11] <Gazionetadmin> do you know how they are getting sued for using the word scrolls thats bullshit it sickens me that oeople can go so low to actually getting money off people for using a word in there game
#2819 [23:12] <Gazionetadmin> its bull
#2820 [23:12] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin its just as notch said him self that a big ass company wants to have its way with all words accociated with the name and everything else theres,
#2821 [23:13] <Gazionetadmin> why does no one do anything about it
#2822 [23:13] <Gazionetadmin> i bet the company has enough money
#2823 [23:13] <Gazionetadmin> too
#2824 [23:14] <lemon-rev> they have, its because its law that someone can sew the ass off anyone they choose for, any stupid reaion at all that is why the court system is soo fucking laggy
#2825 [23:14] <Gazionetadmin> agreed
#2826 [23:15] <Gazionetadmin> hey on my server i had these dicks using some kind of client to spam my server like clone bots do on irc repeat the samething 1000 times or something
#2827 [23:15] <Gazionetadmin> because we kicked them for using hacks
#2828 [23:16] <Gazionetadmin> why do people have to spam people its very annoying
#2829 [23:16] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin there prob only kids useing ddos, if you can find out where that ddos is comming from and block it then good luck
#2830 [23:17] <Gazionetadmin> ive got a better ddoser ;) but not a spamming one
#2831 [23:17] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin that is what kids do it for exactly because it is stupid and annoying to the person whos being trumpled on
#2832 [23:17] <Gazionetadmin> well my friend already did it
#2833 [23:17] <Gazionetadmin> they wore trying there hardest to crash my server
#2834 [23:18] <lemon-rev> as i said script kiddys lol
#2835 [23:18] <Gazionetadmin> someone devolped a new client that nukes the whole map
#2836 [23:18] <Gazionetadmin> and crashers the server instantly
#2837 [23:19] <lemon-rev> well depends on the bandwith involved as well dude, but yea oh well shit is always being developed :P
#2838 [23:19] <Gazionetadmin> we muted the spammers so they used the /me command
#2839 [23:20] <Gazionetadmin> ill show you in pm
#2840 [23:20] <Gazionetadmin> because i don't want to be kicked
#2841 [23:20] <lemon-rev> k
#2842 [23:20] <Rumbleforge> Does anyone here know why some folks who registered for Minecon haven't gotten their capes yet?
#2843 [23:21] <lemon-rev> Rumbleforge dont know , not even sre who to talk to on that
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#2846 [23:23] <Gazionetadmin> why is there a bukkit update
#2847 [23:23] <rumpler> I need help
#2848 [23:24] <rumpler> How do I update my minecraft!?
#2849 [23:24] <lemon-rev> rumpler in the client or where ?
#2850 [23:25] <rumpler> I just want the latest update. Its making me play offline and i wanna play online.
#2851 [23:26] <lemon-rev> rumpler goto minecraft.net and login and click inbroswer
#2852 [23:26] <lemon-rev> and tell me what version it comes up with
#2853 [23:26] <rumpler> okay brb
#2854 [23:27] <rumpler> its asking me to update. I think i got it.
#2855 [23:27] <lemon-rev> just do the update then report back here
#2856 [23:27] <rumpler> Yes sir.
#2857 [23:27] <rumpler> Lolol
#2858 [23:28] <rumpler> its version 1.8.1
#2859 [23:28] <lemon-rev> ok are you happy with that version ?
#2860 [23:28] <Gazionetadmin> the funny thing is notch has not updated it on the side of minecraft when you load up the client it does not say 1.8.1 it only says 1.8
#2861 [23:29] <rumpler> yes i am happy with this version
#2862 [23:29] <rumpler> thank you
#2863 [23:29] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin as i said its jeb whos doing the work not notch, it was notch's idear for minecraft, how ever i dont care so long as both client and server work,
#2864 [23:29] <lemon-rev> np
#2865 [23:30] <Gazionetadmin> ive never been tweeted back by jeb or notch ever how come?
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#2867 [23:30] <Gazionetadmin> and do they ever tweet back to anyone?
#2868 [23:30] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Gazionetadmin: because they get bazillions?
#2869 [23:30] <mib_bivin7> I cannot connect to my minecraft
#2870 [23:30] <lemon-rev> Gazionetadmin how the hell should i kow :P
#2871 [23:31] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> mib_bivin7 error/cantconnect
#2872 [23:31] <VoxelHead> mib_bivin7: (error/cantconnect) Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#2873 [23:31] <VoxelHead> mib_bivin7: (error/cantconnect) This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#2874 [23:31] <ShaRose> Gazionetadmin because they are busy and I can guess with 99% certainty that responding to you would be a useless waste of time
#2875 [23:31] <mib_bivin7> No. I can log in offline. But It just wont let me log in online.
#2876 [23:31] <ShaRose> also they rarely respond on twitter
#2877 [23:31] <Gazionetadmin> ok
#2878 [23:32] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_bivin7: you mean you click 'play offline'? thats NOT logging in. thats when login fails
#2879 [23:32] <Gazionetadmin> does notch have his own irc channel?
#2880 [23:32] <mib_bivin7> Yes! thats whats happening to me.
#2881 [23:32] <Gazionetadmin> do you know what i hate people asking you to put your server in offline mode
#2882 [23:33] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_bivin7: now.. the red text the client says is 'Can't connect to minecraft.net'?
#2883 [23:33] <Gazionetadmin> i would wish they would pay for it
#2884 [23:33] <mib_bivin7> Yes.
#2885 [23:33] * |Kiikun|Janus| points right back to the start
#2885 [23:33] <mib_bivin7> I dont understand what that means.
#2886 [23:34] <Gazionetadmin> and do you know what i also hate 9 year olds on minecraft they are annoying
#2887 [23:34] <|Kiikun|Janus|> [23:31] <@VoxelHead> mib_bivin7: (error/cantconnect) This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#2888 [23:34] <Gazionetadmin> watch read this
#2889 [23:34] <Gazionetadmin> http://minestatus.net/12239-gaziocraft
#2890 [23:34] <Gazionetadmin> this we have this
#2891 [23:34] <Gazionetadmin> stupid troll
#2892 [23:35] <Gazionetadmin> read what he wrote if your not busy
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#2894 [23:35] <mib_bivin7> how to I make sure the system time is correct?
#2895 [23:35] <Gazionetadmin> got teamviewer
#2896 [23:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_bivin7: what os?
#2897 [23:36] <mib_bivin7> ?
#2898 [23:37] <mib_bivin7> what does "what os" mean?
#2899 [23:37] <Gazionetadmin> operateing system
#2900 [23:37] <BlackGyver> Means "bone", in french.
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#2902 [23:37] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_bivin7: ~.~ go poke at the clock or system options
#2903 [23:38] <mib_bivin7> how do i get there?
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#2905 [23:42] <|Kiikun|Janus|> aw.. he left before i could get my script coppied here :P
#2906 [23:42] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib: What OS do you use? Windows, Mac, Linux, Yggdrasil, Niddhog, or Magical-Lunar?
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#2908 [23:44] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> Strafe dont/pm
#2909 [23:44] <VoxelHead> Strafe: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
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#2911 [23:44] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Strafe: tell us what the problem is and we can help
#2912 [23:44] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ... usually
#2913 [23:46] <Strafe> Allright sorry. Hey guys. i just purchased minecraft and when i open it for say a minute or 2 my whole computer freezes. I have windows 7, updated java to 32bit, quadcore 8800gts vid card, 4gb ram
#2914 [23:47] <Gazionetadmin> there might be a virus
#2915 [23:47] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Strafe: installed any mods?
#2916 [23:47] <Gazionetadmin> hogging up your cpu
#2917 [23:47] <Strafe> none i just purchased minecraft yesterday
#2918 [23:47] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> Strafe forceupdate
#2919 [23:47] <VoxelHead> Strafe: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2920 [23:47] <VoxelHead> Strafe: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2921 [23:47] <|Kiikun|Janus|> see if that helps
#2922 [23:48] <|Kiikun|Janus|> you might also have too much running in the background
#2923 [23:48] <Strafe> alright ill try to reinstall minecraft first
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#2925 [23:50] <IDK47> I'm having a similar problem, but i've had minecraft since alpha and it just started happening. I'm running windows 7 64 bit, ati 4670 card, 4 gigs ram, i5 processor. My problem is the minecraft client won't launch
#2926 [23:50] <IDK47> I've updated drivers and java
#2927 [23:51] <|Kiikun|Janus|> IDK47: you downloaded the new client? old client doesnt work anymore
#2928 [23:51] <IDK47> I've deleted .minecraft and tried to redownload with new client
#2929 [23:52] <IDK47> I was redownloading with the browser, but now that doesn't seem to want to work either.
#2930 [23:52] <Strafe> sorry to ask guys but where is minecraft install location?
#2931 [23:52] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Strafe: do what vox said in the second line
#2932 [23:53] <IDK47> When I run the client the java icon pops up but there's no minecraft launcher. It also slows my computer down heavily.
#2933 [23:54] <|Kiikun|Janus|> you both dont happen to be running java7, are you?
#2934 [23:54] <IDK47> I was running java 6 update 27 when i was having the problem
#2935 [23:54] <IDK47> i updated to 7 and the launcher popped up but i couldn't log in.
#2936 [23:54] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ok. just wanted to make sure it wasnt a java7 bug
#2937 [23:54] <IDK47> now it's doing the same thing as before
#2938 [23:54] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :/
#2939 [23:55] <IDK47> indeed
#2940 [23:55] <Strafe> the latest is 6 update 27?
#2941 [23:55] <|Kiikun|Janus|> yes.
#2942 [23:55] <Strafe> yep got that installed. also i tried force udating before samething happens
#2943 [23:55] <|Kiikun|Janus|> java 7 is in testing now and some people have issues with it so we dont recomend it
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#2945 [23:57] <IDK47> I've also tried downloading the client on different browsers. (I read that can make a difference)
#2946 [23:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Strafe: it still freezes after a few mins?
#2947 [23:57] <Strafe> yeah i have to restart manually pressing the power button
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#2950 [23:58] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Strafe: um... try updating your video drivers... im feeling this isnt exactly a minecraft prob.. just something minecraft is trigering with your system
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#2953 [23:59] <IDK47> hmm...very odd now. Launcher launched and I logged in, now download progress on minecraft.jar has stopped at 20% to the point of timeout error