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#4 [00:32] <noahboa96> Hey everyone
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#6 [00:42] <schnozzle> hey
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#8 [00:52] <Gaz> do you guys know if 1.9 will be released soon?
#9 [00:53] <mau5ie> ._.
#10 [00:54] <mau5ie> logically, seeing as the prerelease is out, the official should be available sometime in the near future. but i dunno for sure. besides, we don't like discussing prereleases. :) see /topic
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#12 [00:55] <mau5ie> o/
#13 [00:56] <AndrewPH> o\
#14 [00:57] <Gaz> will it be release this month or next and how will notch and jeb_ release 2 updates in 1 month and whats a feture freeze?
#15 [00:58] * mau5ie shrugs
#15 [00:59] <mau5ie> We aren't Mojang, nor affiliated with Mojang.
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#17 [01:19] <Gaz> ok
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#24 [01:31] <mib_0pkp7b> "/nick sabukilu
#25 [01:31] <mib_0pkp7b> hello?
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#28 [01:41] <mib_bntlwr> Hello my client isn't connecting to minecraft.net
#29 [01:42] <mib_bntlwr> Hello?
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#31 [01:45] <mau5ie> It might be down.
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#36 [01:58] <Nelman20> Hey guys I need help!
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#38 [02:03] <Nelman20> Hello can anyone help with: Fatal Error Ocurred (2): C:\Users\PCName\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\version (Access is denied) Please help
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#53 [03:18] <mr_sticky> I made a server but I cant do op comands
#54 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> op yourself in the server's console
#55 [03:19] <mau5ie> add yourself to the ops.txt.
#56 [03:19] * mau5ie facedesks
#56 [03:19] * GreyVulpine snrks
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#59 [03:25] <mib_fnalv1> i need help
#60 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> With?
#61 [03:25] <mib_fnalv1> it says minecraft crashed
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#63 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> Could you please copy the entirety of the error report, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it once you submit it
#64 [03:26] <mib_fnalv1> yeah1 sec
#65 [03:27] <mermi> I have a server but I cant use op commands
#66 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> op yourself in the server's console
#67 [03:28] <mib_fnalv1> http://pastebin.com/Ehdn3uhS
#68 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> Ah, mac 10.5.8 on minecraft 1.8.1. There's a current incompatibility with minecraft right now, with that version of Mac OSX.
#69 [03:29] <mib_fnalv1> can i update or something
#70 [03:29] <mib_fnalv1> to make it compatable
#71 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> You basically have three options, wait for 1.9 to be officially released at, around Oct 19th, use a buggy prerelease of 1.9, or use a fan-made 1.8.1 'fix
#72 [03:30] <mib_fnalv1> what do you think would be the best option
#73 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> er, sorry, nov 19..
#74 [03:30] <mib_fnalv1> what do you think would be the best option
#75 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> If you aren't familiar at all on how to mod minecraft, I'd wait.
#76 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Try it on a different computer, if you have access to another one
#77 [03:31] <mib_fnalv1> ok thank you!
#78 [03:33] <aetherian> good night Boozaa
#79 [03:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> blargh
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#81 [03:42] <|Kiikun|Janus|> wb lumberjack Opeth :P
#82 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> ?? mods
#83 [03:55] <VoxelHead> mods: As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#84 [03:55] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit or #bukkithelp -- Mod creators can also try #mcp-modding
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#90 [04:21] <Jammy> don't suppose there is a way of getting a random output in minecraft in a redstone circuit?
#91 [04:21] <GreyVulpine> Not that I'm aware of
#92 [04:22] <Jammy> next new block should be a random splitter, 50/50 chance circuit goes left or right out of it :P
#93 [04:22] <peru> mc1020 craftbook
#94 [04:23] <peru> or self-triggered one: mc0020
#95 [04:25] <Jammy> are they non-standard part though i take it?
#96 [04:25] <GreyVulpine> it's a mod
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#98 [04:27] <Jammy> other thing I wanted to know... which mod is best for giving coords at all time in top left, and what other mods would people recommend
#99 [04:28] <peru> zan's minimap gives coords in top right
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#101 [04:30] <mib_ua44nk> Hello i have a probleme it is the weather is dirty in survival
#102 [04:30] <GreyVulpine> "Dirty"?
#103 [04:31] <mib_ua44nk> hmmm not beautiful
#104 [04:31] <Jammy> you mean it's raining? :P
#105 [04:31] <mib_ua44nk> yes
#106 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> That's just how it is..
#107 [04:32] <mib_ua44nk> et je ne peut jamais voir le soleil
#108 [04:32] <mib_ua44nk> sur
#109 [04:33] <mib_ua44nk> and I can never see the sun
#110 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> It gets dark when it rains or snows.
#111 [04:33] <mib_ua44nk> yes and there is always fog
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#113 [04:34] <Justin88> heeeeey anyone here
#114 [04:34] <Justin88> ?
#115 [04:34] <Jammy> nope
#116 [04:34] <Justin88> lol
#117 [04:34] <|Kiikun|Janus|> meh. im here.
#118 [04:34] <Jammy> aww unlucky you :P
#119 [04:34] * |Kiikun|Janus| wants to bottle the sandman :/
#119 [04:35] <Justin88> Is my minecraft not working right? I have a GTX 580 but the graphics look totally screwed, is it a driver issue
#120 [04:35] <Justin88> Everything looks like blocks
#121 [04:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> . . .
#122 [04:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> the entire game style is blocks
#123 [04:35] <Jammy> by screwed what do you mean? :P
#124 [04:35] <Jammy> oh...
#125 [04:35] <mib_ua44nk> donc je ne peut jamais voir le soleil
#126 [04:35] <Jammy> really?
#127 [04:35] <Justin88> yea like these but bigger . . .
#128 [04:35] <Justin88> more like
#129 [04:35] <Justin88> [ ] [ ]
#130 [04:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Justin88: screenshot?
#131 [04:36] <Jammy> really Janus? :P
#132 [04:36] <Justin88> is it just me ?
#133 [04:36] <Jammy> I doubt it Justin88
#134 [04:36] <mib_ua44nk> to?
#135 [04:36] <mib_ua44nk> hallo ?
#136 [04:36] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_ua44nk: hi
#137 [04:36] <Jammy> rain is gonna fall mib
#138 [04:36] <Justin88> I heard this game doesnt support spheres ?
#139 [04:36] <Jammy> correct
#140 [04:36] <Jammy> it is lego basically :)
#141 [04:36] <Justin88> Lol
#142 [04:37] <Justin88> I know i know
#143 [04:37] <mib_ua44nk> il fait toujours moche
#144 [04:37] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Justin88: the ONLY round thin g in game is player shaddow
#145 [04:37] <Jammy> except the heads are blocks too
#146 [04:37] <Justin88> in all honesty
#147 [04:37] <Justin88> i just wanna play abbit and se how much tnt
#148 [04:37] <Justin88> I can handle blowing up
#149 [04:37] <Justin88> Ive been trying to find a game to test something like that on for a while
#150 [04:38] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Justin88: i thin tnt code gotchanged in 1.8 so it can handle more
#151 [04:38] <Justin88> Is that dependent on the server its hosted on or my own system specs?
#152 [04:38] <mib_ua44nk> vous pouvez m'aider ?
#153 [04:38] <mib_ua44nk> you can help me ?
#154 [04:38] <Justin88> oh i thought 1.9 was currennt version
#155 [04:38] <Jammy> depends if you're playing multi or single
#156 [04:38] <Justin88> Ohhhhh Okay
#157 [04:38] <Jammy> 1.9 is pre i believe
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#159 [04:38] <Justin88> is minecraft ftp or digital download
#160 [04:39] <|Kiikun|Janus|> .. or he can quit as im opening mibbit...
#161 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> It's a digital download
#162 [04:39] <Justin88> alright
#163 [04:39] <Justin88> do they mind demoing the product off of tpb o.O
#164 [04:39] <|KiiMIB|> mibs stupide!
#165 [04:39] <Justin88> and i thought pre 4 was released
#166 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> They can't do anything about people pirating minecraft
#167 [04:39] <|KiiMIB|> Justin88: le piratage BAD, mmkay?
#168 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> Up to them
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#170 [04:40] <Justin88> ive been following some guy on youtube who makes computers and instant wire and such in minecraft
#171 [04:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Justin88: piracy BAD, mmkay?
#172 [04:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :P
#173 [04:40] <mauZzz> ^
#174 [04:40] * |Kiikun|Janus| is curious asto fi mauZzz is who he thinks he is...
#174 [04:40] <Justin88> in an age where gamers have to pay 60$ to get a shitty console port like RAGE with no refund I believe in occasional demo'ing and then full purchasing
#175 [04:40] <mauZzz> no.
#176 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> Demo's available at:
#177 [04:41] <mauZzz> just a fan like any other.
#178 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#179 [04:41] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#180 [04:41] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#181 [04:41] <Justin88> oooh cool =]
#182 [04:41] <Justin88> thanks
#183 [04:41] <GreyVulpine> If you decide that you want to pirate it, you do so at your own risk. Be aware that there are copies of minecraft infected with trojans floating around
#184 [04:41] <Justin88> oh lol
#185 [04:41] <Justin88> viruses are for the birds and young adults
#186 [04:41] <|Kiikun|Janus|> and ones that like to molest your system so we have to fix it when you want to go legit :P
#187 [04:42] <GreyVulpine> ^
#188 [04:42] <GreyVulpine> And I'm quite frankly getting tired of doing that
#189 [04:42] <Justin88> minecraft 1.5 ?
#190 [04:42] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#191 [04:43] <Justin88> any features less adequate on it? like tnt explosions..
#192 [04:43] <Justin88> thats what Im trying to do lol
#193 [04:43] <GreyVulpine> TNT's been there since alpha
#194 [04:43] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Justin88: you wont have pistons or endermen
#195 [04:43] <|Kiikun|Janus|> and i think that was before the repeater-fix
#196 [04:44] <Justin88> Oh yea yea but someone mentioned the way it was designed in regards to explosions was coded a bit nicer in 1.8 so it didnt hang with large amounts?
#197 [04:44] <GreyVulpine> You can see a version history at: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history
#198 [04:44] <Justin88> k
#199 [04:44] * |Kiikun|Janus| fails sleep... os goes over to desktop to play some SpaceChem!
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#200 [04:45] <Justin88> uhm
#201 [04:45] <Lykkepillen> Is this a knows bug with paintings? http://imgur.com/MPJE2
#202 [04:45] <Justin88> are there configs for this ?
#203 [04:45] <Lykkepillen> known*
#204 [04:45] <GreyVulpine> Lykkepillen - Yes.
#205 [04:45] <Justin88> As far as allowing cache room on you HDD for faster load times?
#206 [04:46] <Justin88> wow ppl quit so fast
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#208 [04:46] <Lykkepillen> Thanks :)
#209 [04:46] <Justin88> how do i get to the tnt o.o
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#211 [04:47] <|Kiikun|> tnt = 5 gunpowder and 4 sand
#212 [04:47] <|Kiikun|> gunpowder drops from creepers
#213 [04:47] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/TNT
#214 [04:47] <Justin88> My little blocks area have nothing assigned to them
#215 [04:47] <|Kiikun|> Justin88: because you have to collect it all :D
#216 [04:48] <Justin88> Oh jeez i played a browser one that already had them
#217 [04:48] <|Kiikun|> creative mode was just added back into the game
#218 [04:48] <Justin88> I assumed thats how it was
#219 [04:48] <Justin88> How do you mine
#220 [04:48] <|Kiikun|> !tutorial
#221 [04:48] <Justin88> thanks
#222 [04:49] <|Kiikun|> step 1 in any world is usually Punch Trees!
#223 [04:49] <|Kiikun|> :P
#224 [04:49] <mauZzz> whack it.
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#226 [04:49] <Justin88> woooooow its loading forever in his video
#227 [04:49] <Justin88> he needs to get an SSD
#228 [04:49] <mauZzz> just whack it like there's no tomorrow. i would suggest using a pick, though. :V
#229 [04:50] <|Kiikun|> a tree? axe.
#230 [04:50] <|Kiikun|> but you need wood... do fist first!
#231 [04:51] <Justin88> how do you get tools =[
#232 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> You construct it yourself
#233 [04:51] <|Kiikun|> Justin88: make them.
#234 [04:51] * Zimsky just lowers the durability of blocks
#234 [04:51] <Justin88> and why is it so tiny lol
#235 [04:51] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tools
#236 [04:51] <Justin88> agh i just want TNT =[
#237 [04:52] * |Kiikun| isnt even sure mods work on the demo...
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#238 [05:00] <Jammy> hmm i broke my minecraft trying to stick zanminimap on it >.>
#239 [05:01] <|Kiikun|> Jammy: ?? forceupdate :D
#240 [05:01] <mau5ie> lol
#241 [05:01] <Jammy> how i do that?
#242 [05:01] <|Kiikun|> ?? forceupdate
#243 [05:01] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#244 [05:01] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#245 [05:01] <mau5ie> Options > Force Update. Before - Darnit, Vox. >.>
#246 [05:01] <|Kiikun|> returns you to unmodded original vanilla
#247 [05:02] <Jammy> ok :)
#248 [05:02] <Sardonicus> pi-pa-po
#249 [05:02] * |Kiikun| debates saving this SpaceChem solution <.<
#249 [05:02] * Sardonicus greets the mighty Aubot
#249 [05:02] <Jammy> my attempt at forcing update was to cut minecraft.jar out but that just ended with "loading done" and it just sitting there doing nothing :P
#250 [05:03] <|Kiikun|> Jammy: you can delete the entire bin folder... or just do what vox said
#251 [05:03] <Jammy> i thought if i could delete the one folder it would reduce downloading :)
#252 [05:04] <Sardonicus> What race and class should I choose, kiikun?
#253 [05:04] <Jammy> my next is slow... takes a while to update all :P
#254 [05:04] <Jammy> race, class? have I missed something in minecraft? :P
#255 [05:04] <|Kiikun|> Sardonicus: Hydorian Bloodwalker
#256 [05:04] <Sardonicus> heard Minecraft was a RPG
#257 [05:05] <|Kiikun|> its more fantasy.
#258 [05:05] <Sardonicus> with dragons?
#259 [05:05] <|Kiikun|> theres mods to add RPG-styled stats
#260 [05:05] <|Kiikun|> yes. dragons are fantasy
#261 [05:05] <Sardonicus> I like dragons
#262 [05:05] <Sardonicus> :)
#263 [05:05] <Sardonicus> DRAGON ATTACK!
#264 [05:05] <|Kiikun|> these dragons fly through things :P
#265 [05:06] <Sardonicus> you know, there's even a song called dragon attack by Queen?
#266 [05:06] <|Kiikun|> atleast... from what i last read
#267 [05:06] <Sardonicus> let me remember it...
#268 [05:06] <Sardonicus> :D
#269 [05:06] <|Kiikun|> Sardonicus: sing and i mute you for 5 minutes
#270 [05:06] <Sardonicus> lol
#271 [05:06] <Sardonicus> 5 min is devestating
#272 [05:06] <|Kiikun|> :P
#273 [05:07] <Sardonicus> I won't sing as I just got up and my voice is still sleepy
#274 [05:07] * |Kiikun| goes to nuke pizza and eat chocolate
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#279 [05:12] <Sqozza> yep!
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#281 [05:12] <|Kiikun|> . . .
#282 [05:12] * _303 . o O ( ? )
#282 [05:12] <|Kiikun|> hi _303 :P
#283 [05:12] <_303> hello
#284 [05:13] <Jammy> Has anyone made a hidden chest with pistons where you use 2 stick pistons up and 1 cross to make the chest appear out of a hole made in floor? I was trying last night and the across break when trying to close it again
#285 [05:14] <|Kiikun|> Jammy: cant move chests with pistons.
#286 [05:14] <Jammy> ooh :<
#287 [05:14] <|Kiikun|> cant move ANYTHING that has tileentities. chests, furnaces
#288 [05:14] <Jammy> shame, chest coming out of floor seemed such a cool idea :P
#289 [05:15] <|Kiikun|> it was. :3
#290 [05:15] <|Kiikun|> worked with pistonmod... jeb's pistons dont allow it though
#291 [05:15] <|Kiikun|> you CAN have the floor and wall open up to reveal it though
#292 [05:15] <Jammy> ok
#293 [05:15] <Jammy> yeah i know that one
#294 [05:15] <Jammy> will probably go with hole in the floor
#295 [05:15] <Calinou> workbenches CAN be moved
#296 [05:16] <Calinou> :)
#297 [05:16] <Calinou> at least, 99% sure they can
#298 [05:16] <|Kiikun|> same cali. never tried
#299 [05:16] <|Kiikun|> workbench on wall covering a chest in floor = sneaky
#300 [05:17] <Calinou> griefer mines workbench
#301 [05:17] <|Kiikun|> have a false chest next to workbench with generic items :P:
#302 [05:18] <Jammy> what are system requirement like for running a server btw? wondering if i could get away with using my really old laptop :P
#303 [05:19] <SinZ> It needs ram, and cpu
#304 [05:19] <|Kiikun|> Jammy: lots of memory and lots of up/down speed
#305 [05:19] <SinZ> oright
#306 [05:19] <|Kiikun|> and cpu for chunk gen
#307 [05:19] <SinZ> Ram, CPU and network
#308 [05:19] <Jammy> don't think it has much ram :P probably like 256mb :P
#309 [05:19] <SinZ> 1.8 is a cpu whore
#310 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> Definitely not, Jammy
#311 [05:19] <SinZ> server by default begs for 1gb
#312 [05:19] <GreyVulpine> Not with 256 megs of RAM
#313 [05:20] <Jammy> didn't know how much number crunching a server did :)
#314 [05:20] <SinZ> it can survive with 512mb dedicated
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#318 [05:35] <Justin88> does running a server depend on HDD ?
#319 [05:36] <Justin88> yes i just started and I moved my workbench
#320 [05:36] <Justin88> Broke it into pieces picked it up and moved it
#321 [05:45] <mau5ie> Justin88. I work for a game server host, and we're all on SSDs. :U
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#323 [05:49] <mau5ie> Notch broke sunrises. :O ALL the sunrises.
#324 [05:49] <|Kiikun|> o.o; he did?
#325 [05:49] <mau5ie> yeah.
#326 [05:50] <mau5ie> twitter.
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#328 [05:52] <mau5ie> 2011-10-13 09:47:00 Anonymau5ie: RT @notch: Aaaand now the sun rises in the east. #breakallthesunrises
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#330 [05:53] <|Kiikun|> oh. lol
#331 [05:53] <|Kiikun|> so he fixed the northern sun :P
#332 [05:54] <mau5ie> Fixed?
#333 [05:54] <Justin88> Hio
#334 [05:54] <Justin88> When do they plan on releasing Direct x 11 Support and SLI support
#335 [05:54] <Justin88> and what about Hi-Res Textures
#336 [05:55] <Justin88> lol
#337 [05:55] <|Kiikun|> Justin88: directx? NEVER!
#338 [05:55] <Justin88> haha =]
#339 [05:55] <Justin88> i need to get the real version now
#340 [05:55] <|Kiikun|> and there HD texture out now.. just need a mod to use them
#341 [05:55] <Justin88> I cant wait to make TNT =/
#342 [05:56] <|Kiikun|> rofl... zombie on ocean floors...
#343 [05:57] * |Kiikun| is JUST the idiot who woudl get zombieswarmed
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#344 [05:58] <mau5ie> XD
#345 [05:58] <mau5ie> Ooh! Tons of zombies! *dive*
#346 [06:00] <mau5ie> Notch is online. :O
#347 [06:00] <|Kiikun|> o.o!!
#348 [06:01] <|Kiikun|> nuu! he's makign the sun and moon round!
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#350 [06:02] <mau5ie> He's online. #tigirc :O
#351 [06:02] <|Kiikun|> o.o; indeed.
#352 [06:03] * |Kiikun| resists urge to go bug him
#352 [06:04] <mau5ie> room limit is 115. gogogo.
#353 [06:04] * |Kiikun| doesnt
#353 [06:04] <mau5ie> Only 9 more slots open.
#354 [06:04] <mau5ie> :>
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#358 [06:25] <gartral> Hello all, can I get a volunteer or two too help me test a connectivity quirk?
#359 [06:25] <Justin88> how so
#360 [06:26] <gartral> Justin88: it seems that people can connect too my server once, but subsequent connections are not possible until i reboot my router.. I need someone willing too connect, disconnect, and connect again
#361 [06:26] <Justin88> okay sure why not
#362 [06:27] <gartral> Justin88: kitsunet.dyndns-ip.com
#363 [06:27] <Justin88> how do you guys run servers y the way, i wanna set one up but I dunno if 8 GB RAM is sufficient
#364 [06:27] <Justin88> alright trying it
#365 [06:27] <gartral> Justin88: that's MORE than sufficient.. I'm running mine on 2 gb ram
#366 [06:28] <Justin88> failed to log in : Bad login
#367 [06:28] <Justin88> lol
#368 [06:28] <gartral> Justin88: tsk tsk you havent bought minecraft
#369 [06:28] <Justin88> ofc not im trying it out
#370 [06:28] <Justin88> i want to see
#371 [06:29] <Justin88> if i can blow up
#372 [06:29] <Justin88> 1 million tnt
#373 [06:29] <Justin88> thats my sole purpose for playing right now
#374 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> You can do it in single player
#375 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> The demo doesn't work in MP
#376 [06:29] <Jammy> gartral I am just trying to connect now :)
#377 [06:29] <Justin88> I dont feel like making 1 million TNT ...
#378 [06:30] <|Kiikun|> you wouldnt have tme in the demo anyway
#379 [06:30] <|Kiikun|> and i dont know if mods worki n the demo
#380 [06:30] <Justin88> However if i make a server then I guess i can make as much TNT as I want and then make my video
#381 [06:30] <Justin88> I just want to Fraps 1 mil TNT blowing up
#382 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> More likely to crash your machine
#383 [06:31] <gartral> Justin88: unless you have a REALLY good comp, your going too crash, hard
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#385 [06:32] <Justin88> Oh
#386 [06:32] <Justin88> that's my goal
#387 [06:32] <Justin88> to see if i can handle it or not
#388 [06:32] <Justin88> I want to see If it can handle it or BSOD
#389 [06:33] <gartral> Justin88: easier way, download Prome95 and run 10 30 minute tests at once
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#391 [06:33] <Justin88> 5 GHZ i7 2600k OCZ vertex 3 SSD 8GB RAM tight timings 1600 MHZ MSI lightning GTX580
#392 [06:33] <Justin88> o.o
#393 [06:33] <Justin88> i want to see the TNT blow up though
#394 [06:33] <Justin88> ...
#395 [06:33] <Justin88> and make a video of it
#396 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> You've got tons of youtube videos documenting TNT
#397 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Try one of them
#398 [06:34] <|Kiikun|> Justin88: if you buy the game you can try and make use of a larger chunk of that ram :P
#399 [06:34] <Justin88> how much is it
#400 [06:34] <Justin88> i dont feel like dishing out 60$ tho
#401 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> 21.95
#402 [06:34] <|Kiikun|> $21 USD
#403 [06:34] <Justin88> if its like 30 then thats fine
#404 [06:34] <Justin88> oh
#405 [06:34] <Justin88> lol
#406 [06:34] <|Kiikun|> pbbbbbbbbbbt
#407 [06:34] <GreyVulpine> Local echo > you
#408 [06:34] <|Kiikun|> mwahah
#409 [06:35] <Justin88> i have no idea what that means, but i know voxel is an alternate advanced rendering technique
#410 [06:36] <Justin88> Are upgrades free permanently ?
#411 [06:36] <GreyVulpine> ?? premium
#412 [06:36] <|Kiikun|> wouldnt say advanced.. more brute force :P
#413 [06:36] <VoxelHead> premium: Both Alpha and Beta premium users will get bug fixes, updates, patches, and the final release of the game for free. This has not changed. The only difference between the two is the potential aspect of future expansions beyond final release. Alpha users were promised these future expansions for free, while people that bought it during Beta were not.
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#415 [06:37] <Justin88> Well advanced in the way id wants to try to incorporate them in id tech 6
#416 [06:38] <Justin88> so wow thats a messed up loophole where they dont have to give a lot of people free upgrades
#417 [06:38] <tyteen4a03> it's not a loophole
#418 [06:38] <tyteen4a03> it is stated clearly by notch
#419 [06:39] <tyteen4a03> so we oldfags get more
#420 [06:39] * AuBot kicked tyteen4a03 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: yteen4a03 :Please keep it civil.)
#421 [06:39] <|Kiikun|> rofl
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#423 [06:39] <tyteen4a03> just that you get my point
#424 [06:39] <|Kiikun|> yeah. the people who supported minecraft before it went beta (and Super Hit) get more
#425 [06:40] <Justin88> ?
#426 [06:40] <Justin88> Grandfather clause is comparable to a loophole
#427 [06:40] <Justin88> not as obvious just like a kind of shady underhanded side deal
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#429 [06:41] <|Kiikun|> it was stated beforehand when you baught the game :P
#430 [06:42] <tyteen4a03> if you support minecraft in alpha you get every future updates free, but if you buy it in beta you are not entitled to free upgrades
#431 [06:42] <Justin88> o.O But when it attracts new players and they find out that a lot of people get free releases forever and they don't that'll cause a lot of controversy
#432 [06:42] <tyteen4a03> Justin88: that's the point
#433 [06:42] <tyteen4a03> Notch wants to gift something to the oldies that supported minecraft before it got famous
#434 [06:45] <Justin88> That's questionable =/ loss of tons of money, cutomer complaints
#435 [06:45] <|Kiikun|> Justin88: 3+ million people dont seem to care :P
#436 [06:46] <Justin88> so when was alpha ? back when minecraft was a clone of infiniminer
#437 [06:46] <Justin88> thats because people normally do what theyre told =/
#438 [06:47] <tyteen4a03> Justin88: Alpha was when classic is still the only multiplayer mode, and everybody played on it, and when releases are less stable etc
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#440 [06:47] <tyteen4a03> without us Alpha players, minecraft would never reach its popularity today
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#442 [06:48] <|Kiikun|> and notch wouldnt currently be getting sued by bethesda :P
#443 [06:48] <Justin88> lol =]
#444 [06:48] <Justin88> Its sad that Barth let himself and his game get trampled on in the early days
#445 [06:49] <Justin88> I think the main thing that attracted me to mine craft was the true architects and the people who made instant wire and all the computer stuff in minecraft
#446 [06:49] <Justin88> and MCEdit probably attracted a lot of people who wished they were more artistic
#447 [06:49] * |Kiikun| LIKES playign with redstone
#447 [06:50] <tyteen4a03> I just like classic
#448 [06:50] <tyteen4a03> survival's... not the thing for me
#449 [06:50] <tyteen4a03> and there's no superspeed and noclip in creative
#450 [06:50] <tyteen4a03> without mods
#451 [06:52] <Justin88> are those modes only on line or are they stand alone ?
#452 [06:52] <Justin88> Couldn't you just attatch CE and SH ?
#453 [06:52] <|Kiikun|> you can set a singpleplayer world as either crative or survival.
#454 [06:52] <|Kiikun|> a server lets you swap players between modes
#455 [06:53] <Justin88> hmm i might buy minecraft tommorow after i test it out
#456 [06:53] <|Kiikun|> ex: survival server and Ops in creative mode
#457 [06:53] <Justin88> not tonight though cause my wallet is downstairs =]
#458 [06:53] <tyteen4a03> try the demo
#459 [06:53] <Justin88> whats superspeed though
#460 [06:53] <Justin88> ?
#461 [06:54] <tyteen4a03> ??> Justin88 demo
#462 [06:54] <VoxelHead> Justin88: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#463 [06:54] <VoxelHead> Justin88: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#464 [06:54] <SinZ> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
#465 [06:54] <Justin88> I already have it
#466 [06:54] <Justin88> its nice
#467 [06:54] <tyteen4a03> oh
#468 [06:54] <tyteen4a03> :P
#469 [06:54] <|Kiikun|> he was already linked the dmo :P
#470 [06:54] <tyteen4a03> :P
#471 [06:54] <Justin88> Just would rather try the newer one
#472 [06:54] <SinZ> oops... leaned on keyboard
#473 [06:54] <tyteen4a03> SinZ: coffee>?
#474 [06:54] <Justin88> are there config files for minecraft
#475 [06:54] <Justin88> ?
#476 [06:55] <Justin88> to give it more ram to work with ? seperate caches ?
#477 [06:55] <tyteen4a03> that would be java-related
#478 [07:00] <|Kiikun|> theres a batch file you can use to alter the maximum amout of ram the javavm is given. really only works with 64bit java though
#479 [07:01] <Justin88> so as in if I have win 7 ultimate 64 bit im good to go ?
#480 [07:01] <Justin88> because that's exactly what I wanted to do
#481 [07:01] <|Kiikun|> Justin88: and got 64bit java from www.java.com
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#484 [07:04] <Luundin> Any from Mojang here?
#485 [07:04] <GreyVulpine> No.
#486 [07:04] <TheNoodle> Iguana is.
#487 [07:04] <Iguana> hi
#488 [07:04] <Iguana> straight out of sweden
#489 [07:04] <TheNoodle> o/
#490 [07:04] <|Kiikun|> :P
#491 [07:05] <Luundin> Iguana
#492 [07:05] <Iguana> greetings
#493 [07:05] <Justin88> Hmm i wonder If I get the Java 7 release if it'll give problems since it's not offically out yet, but they say it's added support for multi-cores
#494 [07:05] <Luundin> Do you work at Mojang?
#495 [07:05] * |Kiikun| wonders who Iguana is...
#495 [07:05] <Iguana> yes
#496 [07:05] <Luundin> Is there any way i can contact Notch Fast?
#497 [07:05] <Iguana> yes, he's right behind me
#498 [07:05] <Iguana> he's 3 desks down
#499 [07:05] <|Kiikun|> Justin88: stick with java6 until youre sure it works, then try 7
#500 [07:05] <Luundin> <OKay cool
#501 [07:05] <Luundin> Can we take this disc private?
#502 [07:06] <Justin88> Is there a link to info that you have or I can try searching it. To feed minecraft more Ram
#503 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/YhRXMsEU
#504 [07:06] * GreyVulpine points
#504 [07:07] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: that a vox faqlet?
#505 [07:07] <GreyVulpine> No
#506 [07:07] <|Kiikun|> :moreram
#507 [07:07] <TheNoodle> should be on minecraftirc :P
#508 [07:08] <|Kiikun|> :moreram
#509 [07:08] <WugBot> moreram: http://pastebin.com/YhRXMsEU (Thank GreyVulpine!)
#510 [07:08] * GreyVulpine blinks
#510 [07:09] <|Kiikun|> i never remember the line :/ just -Xmx
#511 [07:11] <Justin88> nice, So .. If I leave 2GB for windows.. I can Give minecraft 6GBs...
#512 [07:11] <Justin88> Lol i wonder how that will pan out
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#514 [07:13] <TheNoodle> boringly.
#515 [07:13] <TheNoodle> ;)
#516 [07:14] <Justin88> I have a reason for doing it =/ Im trying to blow up a record amount of TNT at 60 FPS and record it
#517 [07:15] <TheNoodle> But your system only has 8gb of ram, what happens when someone with more ram and a better proccesor comes along?
#518 [07:17] * |Kiikun| would TOTALLY hook up Jaguar to play minecraft and blow 20 chunks of solid TNT if he could...
#518 [07:17] <Justin88> Then they come along o.o, I'm doing it for myself , not for others
#519 [07:17] <dect11> hi i cant play minecraft once i hit login it says uploading packages it woild freeze up!?!?!?!?
#520 [07:19] <|Kiikun|> dect11: it stalld on Updating Packages? try disabling your firewall or antivirus first
#521 [07:20] <dect11> i dont have one
#522 [07:21] <Justin88> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRrwFzEDinA&feature=related
#523 [07:21] <Justin88> lol i actually think that would make the game less interesting
#524 [07:21] <Justin88> I like the 2D style
#525 [07:22] <|Kiikun|> Justin88: it IS 3d... 2d woudl be more liek Terreria. you just like the retro style and not the super-high poly stuff
#526 [07:22] <|Kiikun|> dect11: ok, try updating/reinstalling java from www.java.com
#527 [07:24] <Justin88> oh I mean "2D style" as in yea its 3D technically but the 3D is comprised of 2D sides grouped into a 3D cube
#528 [07:25] <Sardonicus> ...
#529 [07:25] <Sardonicus> then every 3D game would be 2 D
#530 [07:26] <|Kiikun|> Justin88: you just mean flat textures :/
#531 [07:26] <TheNoodle> minecraft has a 3d option...sorta.
#532 [07:27] <|Kiikun|> lol. yeah
#533 [07:27] <|Kiikun|> i got the glasses..
#534 [07:27] <Sardonicus> Does anybody of you know the game Baldur's Gate?
#535 [07:27] <TheNoodle> So do I :D
#536 [07:27] <|Kiikun|> and realized its my monitor thats off-color
#537 [07:27] * |Kiikun| wonders if theres a tool to fix that
#537 [07:27] <Sardonicus> well I'm about to play it again with a mate
#538 [07:28] <Sardonicus> don't know which char to take
#539 [07:28] <Justin88> yes there are tools to fix that
#540 [07:28] <Sardonicus> TheNoodle, which character have you been playing?
#541 [07:29] <Justin88> Well no every game wouldnt be 2D, theres a huge diff =/
#542 [07:29] <Wug> Justin88: 8GB wont be enough for lots of TNT
#543 [07:29] <Justin88> yes flat as in 2D
#544 [07:29] <Justin88> that's what I want to find out
#545 [07:29] <Wug> I've been thinking of doing a hack for science which basically sets the fps to 60 always
#546 [07:30] <Justin88> Im getting another set of 8GB so I want to have a comparison as well and see the improvement when doubled up
#547 [07:30] <Wug> and outputs screencaps on every frame
#548 [07:30] <Wug> so I'
#549 [07:30] <Wug> ll be able to do giant tnt explosions and as long as it doesnt outright crash it will output a screencap of the frame every frame and I'll be able to use ffmpeg to make a movie out of it
#550 [07:31] <Wug> it doesnt work in real time though
#551 [07:31] <Justin88> hmm are you suggesting like stop motion or no ?
#552 [07:31] <Justin88> Oh oh oh oh
#553 [07:31] <Justin88> okay
#554 [07:32] <Justin88> Would that rely more heavily on the speed of your HDD/SSD whichever you use ?
#555 [07:33] <Justin88> As far as to keep writing the screencaps over and over at a quick enough rate
#556 [07:33] <Wug> with vanilla minecraft it is not possible
#557 [07:33] <Wug> I'd have to write a mod to do it
#558 [07:35] <Wug> it would probably still be laggy as hell be it would appear unlaggy in the screenshots because they would be taken every 1/60 second (in-game time)
#559 [07:35] <Wug> regardless of lag
#560 [07:38] <Justin88> Yea, I was just wondering does that mean you'd need a HDD with quick speeds to do that
#561 [07:38] <Luundin> When does the actually game minecraft release?
#562 [07:39] <Justin88> if youve been reading up right around minecon
#563 [07:39] <Luundin> oh that is soon :D
#564 [07:39] <Justin88> but I think Diablo 3 also comes out right around then.....
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#567 [07:46] <Justin88> wow
#568 [07:46] <Luundin> no minecraft
#569 [07:46] <Justin88> That is awesome though, it's not using 6 GB only 2.5 GB but the gome loaded instantly, no load time whatsoever
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#572 [07:48] <Rimirez> hi all
#573 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#574 [07:48] <Rimirez> i need help
#575 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> With?
#576 [07:48] <Rimirez> i want to code my own crafting table
#577 [07:48] <Rimirez> i want to mod one
#578 [07:48] <|Kiikun|> ?? mods
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#580 [07:48] <VoxelHead> mods: As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#581 [07:48] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit or #bukkithelp -- Mod creators can also try #mcp-modding
#582 [07:48] <Justin88> getting about 800 FPS, I want to compare this to when I run SLI with another GTX 580 and another 8 GB RAM
#583 [07:48] * GreyVulpine shakes fist at |Kiikun|
#583 [07:48] <|Kiikun|> :D
#584 [07:48] * |Kiikun| ninjad grey with his own faqlet XD
#584 [07:49] <Rimirez> can someone help me?
#585 [07:49] <|Kiikun|> Rimirez: read what vox said
#586 [07:49] <|Kiikun|> specificly.. the last dozen or so words
#587 [07:49] <Rimirez> oh wow thanks vix!
#588 [07:49] <Rimirez> vox*
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#590 [07:51] <Justin88> how do you see the FPS through minecrafts built in thing rather than Fraps ?
#591 [07:51] <|Kiikun|> f3,
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#593 [07:53] <Thrae> Justin88: Probably won't see a huge boost since Minecraft is more CPU bound than GPU, unless you use HD texture packs.
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#595 [07:54] <Thrae> I would say any performance increase drops off significantly after 2GB of available RAM, decent GPU, decent CPU, decent HDD (Single Player)
#596 [07:56] <Justin88> so minecraft says its seeing 650fps and using 1.5 GB - 2.5 GB of 5888MB alotted
#597 [07:56] <Justin88> yea basically
#598 [07:57] <Justin88> It only goes up on RAM if i spin around with the mouse extremely crazy like by a small increment, I run an OCZ Vertex 3 SSD though
#599 [07:57] <Thrae> Justin88: HDD isn't going to be a big factor until you start running/flying around and it loads/unloads chunks
#600 [07:59] <Justin88> yea I was wondering if we could have caches built to specifically store that data
#601 [07:59] <Wug> I have to go D:
#602 [07:59] * GreyVulpine kicks Wug
#602 [07:59] <GreyVulpine> Justin88 - Yes, it's called, RAM
#603 [07:59] <Wug> blblblblbl
#604 [07:59] * Wug turns auto poke respond script off
#604 [07:59] <Wug> I'll drop by later
#605 [08:00] <Thrae> Justin88: You can make a RAMDisk for even better performance in Single Player, but honestly I don't think it'll make much difference over a modern SSD
#606 [08:01] * Wug turns auto poke script back on
#606 [08:01] <Wug> Thrae: it does
#607 [08:01] <Wug> its just cpu bound at that point
#608 [08:01] <Wug> SSDs have transfer rates of 3-400MB/s for midrange ones
#609 [08:01] <Thrae> Wug: I meant real-world difference, especially in FPS...I guess it'll make a difference if you're flying at super-fast speeds all over the world
#610 [08:01] <Wug> idk about other people but main memory transfers on my machine are 60GB/s
#611 [08:02] <Wug> thbbbbt
#612 [08:02] <Wug> if minecraft had threaded chunk loading it would be faster
#613 [08:02] <Wug> but it doesnt
#614 [08:02] <Justin88> Lol the heck ? what do you run
#615 [08:02] <Justin88> I wish i could at least have the newer revodrive
#616 [08:03] <Wug> your computer has more ram than mine but mine has better timings
#617 [08:03] <Wug> probably
#618 [08:03] <Wug> theyre like 7-7-7-18
#619 [08:03] <Justin88> someone supposed that the improvements in java 7 helped a bit
#620 [08:03] * Thrae uses 12GB in 1T
#620 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> It does for some
#621 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> For others, it can break minecraft altogether
#622 [08:03] <Wug> I need to install java 7 on this os
#623 [08:03] <Wug> anyway leaving
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#625 [08:03] * GreyVulpine waves
#625 [08:03] <Justin88> OH oh i thought u meant you wrote data at 60 GB/s lol
#626 [08:03] * Wug types /dnp
#626 [08:04] <GreyVulpine> Main memory != HDD
#627 [08:04] <Wug> Justin88: to a ramdisk I can get between 20-30GB/s
#628 [08:04] <Justin88> yea didnt pick up on that
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#630 [08:04] <Wug> I can format a 2GB ramdisk in like ... idk but its really fast
#631 [08:05] <GreyVulpine> Format... or "format"
#632 [08:07] <Justin88> Hmm Im just thinking of how to get it to run the fastest =/ I wanna try setting up a server and seeing how that goes. My bandwidth is above average but its not Phenomenal
#633 [08:08] <Thrae> The peak transfer rate for DDR3-1333 is 10667 MB/s, so where is Wug getting the extra read/write bandwidth?
#634 [08:08] <Wug> ow
#635 [08:11] <Justin88> oh i guess DDR-1333 has lower latency, dont they have some ddr-1600 with Cas 7 ?
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#637 [08:12] <Thrae> Latency would effect access time, not bandwidth. Normally lower latency gives you lower bandwidth except for super-high-performance RAM, due to voltage restraints.
#638 [08:13] <Justin88> oh no i was assuming you guessed he had ddr-1333 off of his latency
#639 [08:14] <Thrae> Like I have DDR3-1600 RAM I run at 1333MHz CAS 7 CR 1T instead of 1600MHz CAS 9 CR 2T
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#641 [08:15] <Thunder7102> Anyone know what could lag my server? Like, basic fixes? A friend of mine with a good comp said my server was lagging...I have 6GB of RAM.
#642 [08:15] <Thrae> Oh, no, I was just mentioning the highest actual bus rating with Intel/AMD chipsets
#643 [08:16] <Thrae> (Overclocking beyond the processor's rating doesn't get a linear increase in performance despite there being "no FSB anymore")
#644 [08:17] <Thrae> Thunder7102: Yeah I think it's more likely your Internet than your server with your specs. Did you try a ramdisk?
#645 [08:17] <Justin88> Maybe it's your u/l d/l ? Bandwith
#646 [08:17] <Thunder7102> Ramdisk?
#647 [08:18] <Thrae> Thunder7102: http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk , Minecraft only needs about 100MB for worlds, and it eliminates the possibility of HDD bottlenecks
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#649 [08:18] <Thunder7102> I d/l 1.5mb/s so my upload is usually 300kb/s. That generally should be enough for basic variable transfer, right?
#650 [08:18] <Justin88> o.o
#651 [08:18] <Clive> Hello, anybody good with map editors?
#652 [08:18] <Justin88> seriously ?
#653 [08:18] <Justin88> i used to have 20MB to 5mb and that was too slow for me
#654 [08:18] <GreyVulpine> Thunder7102 - To... play minecraft online?
#655 [08:19] <Thrae> Thunder7102: Not as much your bandwidth as your latency
#656 [08:19] <Thunder7102> Will this ramdisk fix it and is it free?
#657 [08:19] <Justin88> Grey hes asking to host a server
#658 [08:19] <Thrae> I remember Thunder7102, he's running a Windows Minecraft Server with just 1 friend connecting
#659 [08:19] <Justin88> How far away is that friend
#660 [08:19] <Thunder7102> I don't want other people joining until I have the kinks worked out on the server.
#661 [08:19] <Thunder7102> And he is in my city.
#662 [08:20] <Thunder7102> So I only allowed him to connect for now.
#663 [08:20] <Justin88> oh then ping should be real low
#664 [08:20] <Thrae> He's tried the typical Java tuning so I think it's either his latency or HDD limitations
#665 [08:20] <Thrae> Justin88: Not necessarily, depends on the medium
#666 [08:20] <Thunder7102> How would I fix latency?
#667 [08:20] <Thrae> Cable Internet can wildly vary between great to horrible, for instance
#668 [08:20] <Clive> Hello, anybody good with map editors?
#669 [08:20] <Justin88> im used to my expensive internet =/
#670 [08:20] <Thunder7102> I have a 1TB HDD DDR3
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#672 [08:21] <Thrae> Thunder7102: It's a tough process, so try using a Ramdisk and see if it's that first
#673 [08:21] <Thunder7102> Is Ramdisk free?
#674 [08:21] <Justin88> Do you think his problem could be with his 300kb u/l and him being the host ?
#675 [08:21] <Thrae> Thunder7102: The one I linked to you is -- and "Ramdisk" is a term, not the name of any specific piece of software
#676 [08:21] <Justin88> Also could Ramdisk benefit me at all ?
#677 [08:21] <Thrae> Justin88: Nope
#678 [08:22] <Thrae> Justin88: Yes, I mentioned it earlier, as did Wug
#679 [08:22] * Wug stabs Thrae
#679 [08:22] <Justin88> Oh i thought one of you disagreed and said it wouldnt give gain over my SSD
#680 [08:22] <Thrae> Justin88: I didn't think it would, but Wug did, and it's not hard to just give it a shot
#681 [08:22] <Thunder7102> I'm an IT and I still have never heard of it, lol. Working on my CCNA so I am surprised I cannot troubleshoot a networking problem.
#682 [08:23] <Justin88> So it runs in conjuction, not necessarily taking the place of anything i guess?
#683 [08:23] <Thrae> Thunder7102: Managing latency and packet loss is very important to networking, so you'll have to learn that someday too
#684 [08:24] <Thrae> Justin88: Yeah, you can just make a symlink on Windows and move your world folder onto the ramdisk
#685 [08:24] <Thunder7102> Working on how to operate in a Cisco router terminal right now, lol
#686 [08:24] <Justin88> would trying a traceroute etc. type things benefit him to see where it could be dropping off ?
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#688 [08:25] <Thrae> I haven't learned Cisco yet in my life, but I did learn about how to generally fix networks, which I found more important. Of course the CCNA will get you the bigger bucks ;)
#689 [08:25] <Thrae> Yes, combined with at least 30 pings
#690 [08:25] <Thrae> That will show you if something is catastrophically wrong
#691 [08:25] <Thrae> There's also TCP Tuning which can be done
#692 [08:25] <Clive> Looking for someone to help me make a new world.
#693 [08:25] <Justin88> speedguide has a tool for that
#694 [08:26] <Justin88> i beleive
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#696 [08:26] <Thrae> Indeed that's the utility I recommend
#697 [08:26] <Justin88> believe *
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#699 [08:26] <Morrolan> 'lo
#700 [08:26] <Clive> No one? O.o
#701 [08:27] <Justin88> As in build stuff in it ?
#702 [08:27] <Thunder7102> running the program now. and CCNA will teach network troubleshooting. Trying to get N, S, L+ and CCNA this year. That should get me a good amount of knowledge, thoguh I have yet to start on S+ or L+
#703 [08:27] <Clive> Wha?
#704 [08:27] <Thrae> Morrolan: Hi-ho
#705 [08:27] <Clive> I think I'd be better off just describing it ><
#706 [08:28] <Justin88> yea the more information you give would be better
#707 [08:28] <Clive> I want a large empty world with a 50x50x50 lump of iron blocks for people to spawn on
#708 [08:28] <Clive> I tried with MCEDIT and I just kinda failed
#709 [08:28] <TheNoodle> lol
#710 [08:28] <TheNoodle> want me to do it?
#711 [08:28] <Clive> Oooh sure
#712 [08:28] <TheNoodle> just put worldedit on the server :P
#713 [08:29] <Clive> its 1.9.3 pre-3
#714 [08:29] <TheNoodle> ...
#715 [08:29] <Clive> and I want EVERYTHING gone, like just the void left
#716 [08:29] <TheNoodle> Not doin it. :P
#717 [08:29] <Justin88> Thrae would you mind helping me out on the options for ram disk ? like Fat 16/32 Unformatted?
#718 [08:29] <Clive> I mean I could downgrade and just move the saves
#719 [08:29] <Clive> the thing is I have no idea how to delete everything
#720 [08:29] <Clive> without....falling into the void
#721 [08:30] <Morrolan> Clive: Problem is, newly generated chunks won't be empty, so you'll have to use a plugin which limits world size, like worldborder or so.
#722 [08:30] <TheNoodle> creative mode?
#723 [08:30] <Thrae> Justin88: FAT32 is fine
#724 [08:30] <Clive> Are there map generators that can do that?
#725 [08:30] <Morrolan> Oh, you're trying it with WorldEdit? I really suggest you try to get familiar with MCEdit, it's faster, safer and easier for such big projects.
#726 [08:30] <Justin88> Agh i have no idea about these options
#727 [08:30] <Clive> MCEdit just kinda failed at it
#728 [08:31] <Morrolan> I'm not too sure, actually. Now that you say it, there might be one. :/
#729 [08:31] <Thrae> Justin88: FAT32 actually has better performance than NTFS on small volumes
#730 [08:31] <Justin88> Oh I was gonna make it 4GB
#731 [08:31] <Thunder7102> How big of a RAMdisk should i make for my server?
#732 [08:31] <Morrolan> Clive: You could ask in #bukkit or #multiverse whether they know of any world generator which might fit your need. :/
#733 [08:31] <Clive> oh
#734 [08:31] <Clive> ok
#735 [08:31] <Thunder7102> I tried 4GB and that did not work. :P
#736 [08:31] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how many people you plan to have on it, and how big you want your world to get
#737 [08:31] <Thrae> Thunder7102: For one world shouldn't need more than 100MB
#738 [08:32] <Justin88> Oh lol, Im way over compensating then
#739 [08:32] <Clive> I think 500x500 would be plenty
#740 [08:32] <Thunder7102> I will eventually want no more than 20 people online tops. But is that too many?
#741 [08:32] <Thrae> Thunder7102: Hmm, with 20 people, maybe make it 200MB, also just in case you want to add more worlds in a multiverse
#742 [08:33] <GreyVulpine> That's a good sized server.. you said your upload bandwidth was only 300K/sec?
#743 [08:33] <Thunder7102> My download is 1.5mb/s. Trying to get my parents to upgrade but asymetrical data transfers are irritating. :P
#744 [08:33] <Thunder7102> On some P2P, I have gotten 2mb
#745 [08:33] <GreyVulpine> Your upload.
#746 [08:34] <GreyVulpine> You're hosting the server, right?
#747 [08:34] <Thrae> Thunder7102: Where are you getting 1.5 mb/s and 300 kb/s ? From the ISP? Since usually it's measured in kilobits, not bytes, and that might be pushing it for 20 upload slots.
#748 [08:34] <GreyVulpine> That's even pushing it for 4-5
#749 [08:35] <GreyVulpine> wait... bits?
#750 [08:35] <Thunder7102> Thrae, from observation. Oh, and this shoudl help: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1532455543.png
#751 [08:36] <Thunder7102> I assume that is in megabits.
#752 [08:36] <Justin88> o.O that says 23 mb / 4 mb
#753 [08:36] <Thrae> Thunder7102: Yep, that's in bits
#754 [08:36] <Thrae> Justin88: Byte == 8 Bits, where network speed is usually measured in bits
#755 [08:36] <Thunder7102> Would that be ok for 20 people?
#756 [08:37] <Morrolan> ??< requirements
#757 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> 4 megabytes, is about half a megabyte per second, or about 500KB/sec
#758 [08:37] <Morrolan> ??< requirements/lessrude
#759 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> The average server needs about 100k per person, give or take
#760 [08:37] <Thunder7102> O.O
#761 [08:37] <Morrolan> Yes, it eats up a lot of bandwith. ;)
#762 [08:37] * GreyVulpine nods
#762 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> I wish I was kidding
#763 [08:37] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Wait, you mean 4 megabits is about half a megabyte per second?
#764 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#765 [08:38] <Thunder7102> You would need a fiber connection for a good server. :P
#766 [08:38] <Morrolan> Thrae: 4/8=0.5 :D
#767 [08:38] <Thrae> Morrolan: <GreyVulpine> 4 megabytes, is about half a megabyte per second, or about 500KB/sec
#768 [08:38] <Morrolan> Thunder7102: Most "professional" servers are hosted in datacenters anyway.
#769 [08:38] <GreyVulpine> er, bleh, I know what I meant!
#770 [08:38] <Morrolan> Thrae: Oh, I see. ;)
#771 [08:39] <Thrae> Sometimes networking talk gets all weird like that so I was just making sure, not nitpicking :)
#772 [08:39] * GreyVulpine stabs Thrae with a bit
#772 [08:39] <Thunder7102> Oh, and I made the RAMdisk have 300mb to hopefully compensate. how do I set it up with my server?
#773 [08:40] <Thunder7102> or does it just...work?
#774 [08:40] <Thrae> Thunder7102: Also, if you do anything like P2P/torrenting, it'll kill your server unless well restricted
#775 [08:41] <Thunder7102> I usually leave it off so that should not cause too big of an issue
#776 [08:41] <Thrae> Thunder7102: https://code.google.com/p/symlinker/ <-- copy your worlds directory to the ramdisk and use this tool to make a symlink
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#778 [08:42] <Thrae> Thunder7102: Note this is just for a test and if you want to use a ramdisk permanently you should setup a backup script which runs at least every 15 minutes in case of power loss
#779 [08:43] <Thrae> Power loss / BSOD / etc.
#780 [08:43] <Justin88> so should the option be set for save and load disc image
#781 [08:43] <|Kiikun|> rofl.... i like the spacechem crash reporting system
#782 [08:43] <Justin88> I think i read that you lose all data after computer is restarted
#783 [08:44] <Thrae> Justin88: Yeah, that'll make it save the ramdisk to disk upon any graceful reboot, shutdown, or sleep/hibernate
#784 [08:45] <Thunder7102> Alright, I set it. My friend is not on so I cannot test lag.
#785 [08:45] <Thunder7102> Any takers?
#786 [08:45] <Thrae> Justin88: And if you're writing files every 5-15 minutes I would not save it to a SSD :)
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#788 [08:45] <Lykke> Anyway to fix crashes when i enter 1.8 areas on my former 1.7 map?
#789 [08:46] <Thrae> Thunder7102: If we tested it that wouldn't be a good indicator of if the ramdisk helped or not, since it could be your network route to your friend
#790 [08:46] <Justin88> I dont think Im gonna enable the backup script stuff I've never had a BSOD in a few months and I don't grief over losses.
#791 [08:46] <Thrae> Lykke: Try loading it in MCEdit then saving (CTRL+S)
#792 [08:47] <Thunder7102> The test is to see if it lags for other people. My plan is to add more people once the server runs. If someone else is getting no lag, then it could be him
#793 [08:47] <Thrae> Justin88: Not as much a problem with single player
#794 [08:47] <Lykke> Thanks
#795 [08:54] <Justin88> Thrae question about the Symbolic link, I don't really know where my ram disk Is after I made it.
#796 [08:55] <Thrae> Justin88: Once its mounted it'll show up under Start->Computer as a drive
#797 [08:56] <Justin88> Doesnt =/ Although I know its working cause %GB is being used on my Computer
#798 [08:56] <Thrae> Justin88: Probably not formatted then -- go into Disk Management (you can do so by right-clicking on Computer/My Computer and selecting "Manage")
#799 [08:57] <Justin88> yea i was just reading that on the dataram FAQ
#800 [08:57] <Justin88> thanks =]
#801 [09:01] <Thunder7102> every now and then (not today after the RAM link yet), but my server would say it can not keep up. Why is this?
#802 [09:02] <Thrae> Thunder7102: There's a large number of reasons -- it's when the system time doesn't match what Minecraft thinks the time is, I believe. I fixed it mostly on my server by switching to a ramdisk and restarting Minecraft daily, but I'm on Solaris so I'm a bad test case. It could be HDD throttling issues, and ramdisk does often solve this.
#803 [09:03] <Thunder7102> oh ok. Because I have yet to get it so far after I used RAmdisk
#804 [09:03] <Thunder7102> And because this is temporary, how do I set it up to actually save my world in a backup area so shutdown does not destroy everything?
#805 [09:04] <Thunder7102> I set RAMdisk to save to an img, not sure if that is the right option
#806 [09:04] <Thunder7102> it autosaves every 300 seconds.
#807 [09:04] <Thrae> Thunder7102: When you setup the Ramdisk there was an option, "Save and Load Disc Image". You can also set this option in the Ramdisk program after you set it up, but I think you have to unload the Ramdisk first.
#808 [09:05] <Thunder7102> gotcha. And in the recent logs, I get this error: Failed to allocate requested disk memory (AWE).
#809 [09:05] <Thunder7102> i was checking them to see. The first time, it worked.
#810 [09:05] <Thunder7102> Message: RAMDiskVE driver started. First log
#811 [09:07] <Thrae> Thunder7102: In the "Load and Save" tab you want "Load Disk Image at Startup" and "Save Disk Image on Shutdown" checked, along with AutoSave.
#812 [09:09] <Thrae> I forgot it has the AutoSave feature -- that's cool
#813 [09:10] <Thunder7102> O.O
#814 [09:10] <Thunder7102> Tons of errors.
#815 [09:12] <Justin88> Alright So Im just setting up the symbolic link the the new drive and what is the folder im linking to it ?
#816 [09:13] <Thunder7102> ....PermissionsEx.... T.T It got messed up again I see. I did not mess with it. :P
#817 [09:14] <Justin88> Uhm how do I find my worlds directory o.O
#818 [09:14] <Justin88> Or is that for servers only
#819 [09:15] <gartral> Justin88: for multiplayer or single player?
#820 [09:15] <Justin88> Single player
#821 [09:15] <gartral> .minecraft/saves
#822 [09:15] <|Kiikun|> Justin88: this the demo still?
#823 [09:15] <Justin88> both actually is there a diff
#824 [09:15] <Thunder7102> What does this mean?
#825 [09:15] <Thunder7102> 2011-10-13 09:14:43 [INFO] Chunk file at -12,12 is in the wrong location; relocating. (Expected -12, 12, got -7, 13)
#826 [09:15] <Thunder7102> 2011-10-13 09:14:43 [INFO] Chunk (-7, 13) stored at (-12, 12)
#827 [09:15] <Thunder7102> 2011-10-13 09:14:43 [SEVERE] java.lang.Throwable
#828 [09:16] <gartral> Thunder7102: you should Pastebin console output
#829 [09:16] <Thrae> Thunder7102: Paste it up on www.pastebin.com and give us the link
#830 [09:16] <|Kiikun|> Thunder7102: if theres mroe to it.. put it on pastebin.com
#831 [09:16] <|Kiikun|> and it soundds like it was just reordwering chunks...
#832 [09:17] <Justin88> oh lol i turned search service off a long time ago on my computer
#833 [09:17] <gartral> Justin88: in singleplayer the saves are in .minecraft/saves/[NAME] for multiplayer, they're in the directory with the server binary
#834 [09:17] <Thrae> Justin88: %APPDATA%\.minecraft\saves
#835 [09:17] <Justin88> thanks
#836 [09:18] <Thrae> Yeah, it's a good idea to turn off both indexing and System Restore with SSDs
#837 [09:18] <gartral> yea, with an SSD it's mearly a waste of CPU time and disk space
#838 [09:18] <Thrae> Especially since both Windows Vista and 7 come with great Backup software
#839 [09:19] * gartral smacks Thrae with a rotten trout
#839 [09:19] <Thunder7102> Trying to get error message under 500kb
#840 [09:19] <Thunder7102> http://pastebin.com/Zb7tFNgc
#841 [09:19] <gartral> Thrae: I'm sorry, but Vista's Backup software SUCKS.. and 7's is only marginally better
#842 [09:19] <Thrae> gartral: Not really, it's more about reducing writes
#843 [09:19] <Justin88> Can i just link the whole minecraft folder ?
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#845 [09:21] <Justin88> Would it be beneficial to just make a symbiotic link with the whole .minecraft folder
#846 [09:21] <Thrae> gartral: What's wrong with the Vista/7 backup software? The VHD mountable image is awesome compared to the previous included software, NTBackup, along with incremental ZIP options.
#847 [09:21] <Thunder7102> Anyway, I'll be back in an hour or so, so if could PM me what is wrong, I can check it when I get back. :P
#848 [09:21] <Thrae> Justin88: Not really
#849 [09:21] <Justin88> oh ok cause i saw it had other stuff like resources
#850 [09:22] <Justin88> thanks =]
#851 [09:23] <gartral> Thrae: I can not count how many time I've had a 2008 Server run backups on workstations and the backups get fudged and become unusable, abiguos binary blobs on my NAS. On a local level, they work alright, on a network level... your better off with a Linux NAS running a cronjob and pulling the entire disk too a NILFS2 array.
#852 [09:24] <gartral> </rant>
#853 [09:24] <|Kiikun|> <rant> GRAAAARRRGGHH!!!! </rant>
#854 [09:24] <Thrae> Thunder7102: Sounds like the world got corrupt somehow -- http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admin-chunkster.8186/
#855 [09:25] <gartral> |Kiikun|: <rampage> *BEATSEVERYONEWITHACLUB* </rampage> :P
#856 [09:26] <Thrae> gartral: I didn't say anything about its large production value. I personally do the backup locally first, then on a network, although I've never had a problem on my dual-Gigabit network when I was doing them directly to ZFS-via-Samba
#857 [09:26] <Thrae> In this case I was talking about SSD tuning on Windows desktops, not as much servers ;)
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#859 [09:27] <gartral> Thrae: Ok, I kinda blew it out of context, but my point is still valid. and so is yours.
#860 [09:27] <Justin88> chunk updates are better bigger or smaller ?
#861 [09:27] <Thrae> Yeah I've been using Acronis for a while now
#862 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> Acronis = <3
#863 [09:27] <Thrae> Justin88: What do you mean?
#864 [09:27] <Justin88> oh
#865 [09:27] <Justin88> under the F3 menu
#866 [09:28] <Justin88> fps
#867 [09:28] <Justin88> and chunk updates
#868 [09:28] <gartral> Justin88: Smaller... means less lag
#869 [09:28] <Thrae> Justin88: That just shows you how many are queued up, and ramdisks should easily deal with large queues
#870 [09:29] * gartral loves his SSD
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#871 [09:30] <Thrae> gartral: Justin has a modern SSD too, he just wants to pump up performance to the max...he's even trying SLI and massive amounts of RAM
#872 [09:30] <Justin88> Alright, me too OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS. Well after RAM disk its showing high chunk updates like 300+ at some points and im sure it didnt do that before
#873 [09:30] <Justin88> SLI Is more for BF3, RAM is just for giggles to see what it can DO
#874 [09:30] <Thrae> Justin88: Well, how's the FPS when you fly across the world, especially unexplored parts?
#875 [09:31] <Justin88> Sometimes I play an online game where u do 4 on 4 and I multiclient my main character and fill the opposite team with my three dummys and sit back and watch the unsuspecting guy get mad =] Pure Evil
#876 [09:31] <Justin88> I dont know how to fly =/
#877 [09:31] <Thrae> Justin88: Create a world in Creative Mode, then double-jump
#878 [09:32] <Justin88> k
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#880 [09:33] <Justin88> Is there a way to fly faster ?
#881 [09:33] <Thrae> Not without mods
#882 [09:35] <Justin88> They drop down to about 230 FPS
#883 [09:35] <Justin88> I was kind of hoping that the game would have the stuff pre rendered but It just pops up instantly as I fly along. I guess that's just how it was made though
#884 [09:36] <Thrae> Justin88: Yeah, test that without the symlink with the world on the SSD too
#885 [09:36] <Luundin> Anyone from Mojang here?
#886 [09:36] <|Kiikun|Janus|> chunks get generated when you approach
#887 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> Considering how much 'world' could be generated, it's in your best interests for it to be generated on the fly
#888 [09:36] <Thrae> Luundin: Nope, but maybe we can help too. What's your problem?
#889 [09:37] <Thrae> Justin88: Worlds used to be multi-GB with massive amounts of I/O, and now they're down to 200MB using the relatively new "MCChunk" storage system
#890 [09:37] <Luundin> Its not really a problem. Just need to talk to someone from Mojang :)
#891 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> Luundin - Concerning?
#892 [09:37] <Justin88> Alright Seems reasonable
#893 [09:37] <Luundin> Practice from school
#894 [09:37] <Thrae> Luundin: About? The standard way to contact them is to follow the instructions at http://www.minecraft.net/support , but it can take a while depending on your particular problem.
#895 [09:38] <Thrae> (~40MB to ~200MB)
#896 [09:38] <Luundin> Need practise job :)
#897 [09:38] <Justin88> Uhm, how do I go down when flying o.o
#898 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> Shift
#899 [09:38] <Luundin> Practice*
#900 [09:38] <Justin88> thanks
#901 [09:38] <GreyVulpine> A.. practice job?
#902 [09:39] <Luundin> Ya
#903 [09:39] <Thrae> I think he means an internship
#904 [09:39] <Luundin> maybe
#905 [09:39] <Luundin> dont know the word for it
#906 [09:39] <GreyVulpine> Try emailing daniel@mojang.com, he's their business director
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#908 [09:40] <TheNoodle> Lunamon, notch is actually online now.
#909 [09:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Luundin: means that you work at a place for lower-than-legal pay solely for the job experience.
#910 [09:40] <Luundin> More like no pay at all
#911 [09:40] <Lunamon> TheNoodle: he should shoot himself and stuff
#912 [09:40] <Luundin> Just for the experience
#913 [09:40] <TheNoodle> he's in #tigirc
#914 [09:41] <Thrae> Luundin: Mojang is a tiny company of 9 people...we're "official volunteers" and most of us don't get to speak to them (and the rest, barely at all). Not trying to discourage you, just telling you my experience.
#915 [09:41] <Thrae> TheNoodle: What's that channel for, his new game?
#916 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> Notch doesn't even come to the main #minecraft channel anymore, for fear of spam
#917 [09:42] <TheNoodle> Thrae, not quite sure, I'm about to translate the channel topic :p
#918 [09:42] * |Kiikun|Janus| asumes tigirc is the tigsource irc channel
#918 [09:42] <Opeth> Mhm.
#919 [09:42] <Luundin> Thrae: Yeah i can understand that. This internship was a longshot but i wanted to try it. And i live very close to their office also.
#920 [09:42] <Thrae> Luundin: Ah, that'll definitely help
#921 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> Luundin - If you're actually serious about an internship, try emailing daniel@mojang.com
#922 [09:43] <Justin88> Yess.... I can finally Play with TNT ....
#923 [09:44] <Luundin> Thanks both Thrae and GrayVulpine!
#924 [09:44] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :3
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#926 [09:49] <schnozzle> my game wont run
#927 [09:49] <schnozzle> someone whit a solution
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#929 [09:50] <|Kiikun|Janus|> for someone who cant stay more than a minute? nope :P no solution
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#933 [09:57] <DeathAngel> Anyone here?
#934 [09:58] <Justin88> Ooooh dang thats sad to find out ... I tried a ton and my FPS dropped to 4 =/
#935 [09:58] <fluffysquid> help... I get this message when i try to run minecraft and my drivers are up to date: "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers."
#936 [09:58] <Justin88> I need SLI and VRAM =/
#937 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> fluffysquid - Do you know how to update your video card's drivers?
#938 [09:59] <fluffysquid> yeah i do and i have theyre all up to date
#939 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> How do you know that?
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#941 [10:00] <fluffysquid> Well I looked up my drivers' version on my comp and couldnt find an update numbered after that online
#942 [10:00] <Plasterek> Hi,
#943 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> fluffysquid - What operating system are you on?
#944 [10:01] <Plasterek> my key is not activte I biught it on minecraft .net HELP ME !!!!!!
#945 [10:01] <fluffysquid> windows
#946 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> Plasterek - Did you redeem it at:
#947 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> ?? redeem
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#949 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> er, http://www.minecraft.net/user/redeem
#950 [10:01] <GreyVulpine> fluffysquid - Please give us a dxdiag:
#951 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> ??> fluffysquid win/dxdiag
#952 [10:02] <VoxelHead> fluffysquid: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#953 [10:02] <VoxelHead> fluffysquid: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#954 [10:04] <fluffysquid> voxelhead this is my link http://pastebin.com/uen4iYgD
#955 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> fluffysquid - And when you updated your video card's drivers, did you go here to make sure?
#956 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#957 [10:06] <DeathAngel> Can anyone help me
#958 [10:06] <GreyVulpine> DeathAngel - Only if you tell us your issue.
#959 [10:06] <DeathAngel> lol
#960 [10:06] <DeathAngel> ok
#961 [10:07] <DeathAngel> My minecraft skin/texture keeps chaning
#962 [10:07] <fluffysquid> greyvulpine no i did not. Sorry I'm not that techno-savvy i'll do that now
#963 [10:07] <DeathAngel> Changing*
#964 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> DeathAngel - Your skin, or texture pack?
#965 [10:07] <DeathAngel> Skin
#966 [10:07] <GreyVulpine> DeathAngel - Could you elaborate?
#967 [10:08] <DeathAngel> ok not only yesterday i was a creeper
#968 [10:08] <DeathAngel> Then randomly Bang changed to a girl
#969 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> Did you change it yourself, does anybody else have access to your account?
#970 [10:09] <DeathAngel> no
#971 [10:09] <DeathAngel> and i didnt change it
#972 [10:09] <GreyVulpine> What is your minecraft username?
#973 [10:09] <fluffysquid> mmmk thanks all that fixed it:) you guys rock
#974 [10:10] <DeathAngel> beldeathangel
#975 [10:11] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. I see your skin as some girl. Only way that could happen is if somebody changed it, either by going to the profile page at minecraft.net logged in as you, or through some remote skin upload website
#976 [10:11] <DeathAngel> ok
#977 [10:11] <DeathAngel> how can i stop it >.<
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#979 [10:12] <GreyVulpine> Change your password, don't let anybody else share your account, and change your skin back to whatever you wanted
#980 [10:13] <DeathAngel> ok
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#983 [10:17] <karter34> hey i cant connect to smp it says i have a "bad Packet"
#984 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> karter34 - What's the full error?
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#986 [10:18] <karter34> 1 sec leme check agian
#987 [10:18] <RobinJ24> The king has arrived.
#988 [10:19] <karter34> internal exeption: java.IOExeption: Bad packet id 230
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#990 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> karter34 - Strange, does this happen on all servers?
#991 [10:20] <karter34> idk cuz i only play on 1
#992 [10:20] <GreyVulpine> karter34 - Could you try connecting to s.nerd.nu or smp.shadow-craft.net ?
#993 [10:20] <karter34> ok
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#995 [10:21] <karter34> no aparenly it only on my friends server
#996 [10:22] <Klobaska> Hi
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#998 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> karter34 - Then apparently your friend's server has a problem on their end. Nothing you can do but wait for him to fix it
#999 [10:22] <Minty> Hi I have a question.
#1000 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> We have answers.
#1001 [10:22] <karter34> hmm that strange because othher ppl can get on
#1002 [10:22] <Keltinray> If you're lucky, one of the answers will line up with your question.
#1003 [10:23] <Klobaska> Kolko rastie ovečka vlna?
#1004 [10:23] <Minty> I'm trying to access my friends server, but I'm getting the error Can't Reach Server.
#1005 [10:23] <Klobaska> How many sheep grow wool????????????????????,
#1006 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> karter34 - Have your friend move or delete your players.dat file from /world/players
#1007 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> Klobaska - All of them
#1008 [10:23] <karter34> ok thanks
#1009 [10:24] <Klobaska> How many sheep grow wool?
#1010 [10:24] <RobinJ24> All of them..
#1011 [10:24] <Jammy> hmm anyone got any idea why I can't connect to myself via a internet ip link up, which should be open :S
#1012 [10:24] <Minty> I'm trying to access my friends server, but I'm getting the error Can't Reach Server..the address is right and it seems like I'm the only person who can't join.
#1013 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> Klobaska - All of them do. There's 6 different type of sheep that spawn naturally, but all of them can be dyed all colors
#1014 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Minty - Confirm that you're putting in the address correctly?
#1015 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Minty - Could you perhaps tell us the address you're putting in?
#1016 [10:25] <Minty> Yup, I've even tried to direct connect with it, and forward porting.
#1017 [10:25] <Jammy> getyoursignal is saying the port is open :S
#1018 [10:25] <Klobaska> How many sheep wool grows when it cut?
#1019 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Klobaska - All of them
#1020 [10:26] <Klobaska> WHAT ?? all of them ??
#1021 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> Klobaska - Yes
#1022 [10:27] <Minty> Umm.. I don't think my sister would like me sharing her server address in a IRC. :/
#1023 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> All sheep regrow their wool when you cut them with shears
#1024 [10:27] <Klobaska> How long until the sheep grow wool???
#1025 [10:27] <Thrae> Minty: You can do /msg AuBot !check serveraddress
#1026 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Klobaska - It's random
#1027 [10:28] <Justin88> Damn, I downloaded huge ball of TNT MC Edit file.. 3-4 FPS
#1028 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> Justin88 - With enough TNT, minecraft will bring any system to its knees
#1029 [10:29] <Jammy> hmm aubot says it can see the game >.<
#1030 [10:29] <Justin88> Lol =[ I wish I had enough power not to
#1031 [10:29] <Klobaska> I been waiting 19 hours: (
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#1033 [10:30] <Jammy> can someone try jammyslayer.dyndns.org
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#1035 [10:31] <|Kiikun|Janus|> !check jammyslayer.dyndns.org
#1036 [10:31] <Example1999> hello
#1037 [10:32] <Minty> Umm.. Aubot said "That looks like a local address"... and then gave me my own IP
#1038 [10:32] <Example1999> can anyone help me with my minecraft
#1039 [10:32] <Example1999> ?
#1040 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> In #minecrafthelp? No, never!
#1041 [10:32] <TheNoodle> Never ever.
#1042 [10:32] <Jammy> I am connected with 127.0.0.1 but can't connect with jammyslayer.dyndns.org... is it just a weird thing about connecting to computer you are on?
#1043 [10:33] <Example1999> k thanks :)
#1044 [10:33] <TheNoodle> We're the ones that design the errors you experience.
#1045 [10:33] <Justin88> I saw it for a second
#1046 [10:33] <Justin88> I clicked it and then it immediately exited
#1047 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> Jammy - If you're running the server on the same computer, you can connect with 127.0.0.1 -- That address always points back to the same computer it's used on
#1048 [10:34] <Jammy> i know that... i just don't get why i can't connect via dyndns to myself :P
#1049 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Your router may not like local NAT loopback
#1050 [10:34] <Jammy> ok :)
#1051 [10:34] <Klobaska> HELP I been waiting 19 hours
#1052 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> I can connect to your server just fine jammy
#1053 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> Klobaska - For?
#1054 [10:35] <Jammy> yeah i saw :)
#1055 [10:35] <Minty> So.."That looks like a local address" Whats that mean when Aubot says it?
#1056 [10:35] <Jammy> ok so i can fiddle now happy in the knowledge that people are able to connect :P
#1057 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> Minty - He was putting in 127.0.0.1
#1058 [10:35] <Klobaska> when the sheep grow wool ????
#1059 [10:35] <Jammy> it means you've entered a 192 address which is not a external address people can connect to Minty
#1060 [10:36] <Example1999> when i go to load up minecraft it works fine and i log in, it says updating minecraft, then a display apperars saying - nVidia openGL driver - Driver component sizes mis-match - What do i do??? please give feedback
#1061 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> Example1999 - Please update your nvidia video drivers
#1062 [10:36] <Minty> :/ Hmmm... but other people can connect... 3 other people are logged into it now.
#1063 [10:36] <Jammy> sorry GreyVulpine think i confused things by talking about a similar subject at same time :P
#1064 [10:36] <Klobaska> HELPPPPP :( how long wool sheep grow I am waiting for 19 hours already and still nothing
#1065 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> Klobaska - Could be a few minutes, entirely random
#1066 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> Jammy - No worries
#1067 [10:37] <Jammy> Minty you probably have similar issue as me... just use 127.0.0.1 or localhost as your address to connect to
#1068 [10:38] <Minty> alright. I'l try that.
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#1070 [10:38] <Example1999> GreyVulpine - a GeForce one - Geforce GTX 590?
#1071 [10:39] <Klobaska> HELP ME :) how long wool sheep grow I am waiting for 19 hours already and still nothing :( :(
#1072 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> Example1999 - Could you try updating your video drivers from nvidia.com?
#1073 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> Klobaska - Just kill the sheep, it'll respawn nearby
#1074 [10:39] <Minty> Just tried to connect via localhost and 127.0.0.1 and got time out errors
#1075 [10:39] <Example1999> GreyVulpine - I have i just dont know which one to download
#1076 [10:39] <Thrae> Example1999: Yeah, select "Custom" then check the "Clean Install" box to be sure you get a nice, clean install of the Nvidia drivers. It's obviously them erroring.
#1077 [10:39] <GreyVulpine> Example1999 - What operating system are you on?
#1078 [10:40] <Example1999> Windows XP
#1079 [10:40] <Justin88> I made the huge mistake of putting 4 of those Biggest TNT balls next to each other =/
#1080 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Example1999 - So go to: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us -- Use Geforce -> Geforce 500 series -> 590 -> Windows XP
#1081 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Then hit "search"
#1082 [10:40] <Example1999> Okay ill try that, thanks
#1083 [10:41] <Justin88> http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-285.38-beta-driver.html
#1084 [10:41] <Minty> Jammy - any other way you think I could access the server?
#1085 [10:41] <Justin88> Go with that driver , You're gonna need it for other games too
#1086 [10:41] <Jammy> Minty: To get this straight, you have the server running on the computer you are also trying to play it on, other people are able to connect to it, but you're not?
#1087 [10:42] <Minty> Oh no.. my sister lives almost a state away, and she's running it from her own computer.
#1088 [10:42] <Klobaska> GeayVulpine No. I have a farm and do not want to kill her :((
#1089 [10:42] <Jammy> ooooh
#1090 [10:42] <Jammy> yeah localhost and 127.0.0.1 aren't gonna work :P
#1091 [10:42] <Minty> :(
#1092 [10:42] <Example1999> GreyVulpine - Should i download? The following results came up after search: Version: 280.26 WHQL Release Date: 2011.08.09 Operating System: Windows XP Language: English (UK) File Size: 122 MB
#1093 [10:43] <Jammy> can you connect to any multiplayer games Minty?
#1094 [10:43] <Justin88> you have XP ?
#1095 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> That looks right Example1999
#1096 [10:43] <Justin88> id go with the newest beta one they released
#1097 [10:43] <Minty> Umm I haven't tried to connect to another mulitplayer game since update.
#1098 [10:43] <Justin88> I have a GTX 580 it's the same driver
#1099 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Justin88 - Nah, beta drivers can cause issues
#1100 [10:43] <Justin88> But you had to of searched under Beta drivers
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#1102 [10:43] <GreyVulpine> Just go with the latest stable drivers
#1103 [10:44] <Minty> I used to play on her server before the 1.8.1 update
#1104 [10:44] <Justin88> They can but this one is needed for certain games
#1105 [10:44] <Jammy> i'd try a different server that people know works, if that don't work, then it think it's gonna be security software on your computer
#1106 [10:44] <Justin88> Like for instance if he played RAGE he wouldnt be doing it without this driver
#1107 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Justin88 - We've had one report of a person using beta drivers, and minecraft screwing up because of it
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#1109 [10:44] <Justin88> yea , i know it depends on the Game
#1110 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Justin88 - Had to revert back to latest stable drivers
#1111 [10:44] <Justin88> but i run the same driver
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#1113 [10:45] <Minty> I'll try that thanks, Jammy.
#1114 [10:46] <Thrae> Even "stable" drivers can cause issues -- if you're not a gamer/tweaker it's a good idea not to update UNTIL you get problems.
#1115 [10:47] <Thrae> With drivers I always do a Clean Install just to be sure and found that gives the best stability, especially with Beta drivers.
#1116 [10:47] <self_slaughter> anyone got a changelog for minecraft 1.9 pre 4 ?
#1117 [10:47] <Minty> Jammy, it seems like I can't join servers that use ISP/Ports but can if they have actual addresses with words.
#1118 [10:47] <Jammy> weird
#1119 [10:48] <Jammy> sure you're entering ip correctly?
#1120 [10:48] <|Kiikun|Janus|> thats impossible because urls resolve to ips :/
#1121 [10:48] <Minty> Yup.. I'm copy pasting directly from the site I'm using for top online servers.
#1122 [10:48] <clarjon1> lol
#1123 [10:48] <clarjon1> Minty: sounds like a DNS issue
#1124 [10:48] <|Kiikun|Janus|> make sure theres no space in what your pastig.. or type it by hand
#1125 [10:49] <Minty> Alright.
#1126 [10:49] <Jammy> and make sure ip isn't type with - instead of . as i have seen before
#1127 [10:49] <|Kiikun|Janus|> clarjon1: a dns wouldnt even be talked to if he's putting in proper IPs
#1128 [10:49] <Jammy> needs to be full stops :)
#1129 [10:49] <Thrae> Minty: Sometimes in copy & paste you can paste in characters that won't be visible, but will still be entered into a field
#1130 [10:49] <Example1999> GreyVulpine - I load up minecraft and it says the same thing, so i tried clicking on the nvidia. It searches for compatibale hardware, then has an error saying - The graphics driver cannot find compatibale graphics hardware
#1131 [10:50] <Jammy> i'd go with entering by hand it's only 4 sets of numbers and 3 full stops after all :P
#1132 [10:50] <Minty> Ok.. it seems to be working with everything now... so I guess its just her server. Poop :(
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#1134 [10:50] <Minty> ^__^ Thank you guys for the help :D
#1135 [10:50] <clarjon1> |Kiikun|Janus|: Ah, you're right. I misread it, understood the issue backwards lol
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#1137 [10:51] <Example1999> GreyVulpine - can you help?
#1138 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> Example1999 - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#1139 [10:51] <GreyVulpine> ??> Example1999 win/dxdiag
#1140 [10:51] <VoxelHead> Example1999: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1141 [10:51] <VoxelHead> Example1999: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1142 [10:52] <Justin88> Example1999 do you have a friend that can TeamViewer you possibly, if you don't know what that is though don't bother ?
#1143 [10:52] <Wug> Justin88: we have a factoid for that
#1144 [10:52] <Wug> and I do teamviewering a lot
#1145 [10:52] <Wug> :tv > Example1999
#1146 [10:52] <WugBot> Example1999: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1147 [10:52] <WugBot> Example1999: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /pm user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1148 [10:52] <Justin88> nice =]
#1149 [10:53] <Justin88> Oh
#1150 [10:53] <Example1999> no i dont know what teamview is, what is dxdiag?
#1151 [10:53] <Justin88> you might want to include that When you initially install TV it comes with the option for auto filesharing turned on.
#1152 [10:53] <Wug> read the factoid, it explains teamviewer
#1153 [10:54] <Wug> Justin88: it doesnt matter
#1154 [10:54] <Justin88> You have to manually go in and turn it off, a lot of dirtbags try to get ppl to use it so they can send kloggs
#1155 [10:54] <Wug> we ban people for misuse of teamviewer
#1156 [10:54] <Justin88> Well yea not from you guys obviously, but some people use it with malicious intent
#1157 [10:54] <lukegb> ^
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#1159 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> We don't tolerate misuse of teamviewer here..
#1160 [10:56] <Example1999> What is dxdiag?
#1161 [10:56] <Wug> it saves some system info
#1162 [10:57] <TheNoodle> Dxdiag gives us some information about your computer, like how much ram you have and what graphics card you use.
#1163 [10:57] <TheNoodle> There's nothing in a dxdiag that can be used maliciously
#1164 [10:57] <Justin88> Oh definitely , I know that. But if you're gonna have someone install a program you should give them a heads-up in case they use it in other avenues and someone trys to screw them
#1165 [10:58] <Example1999> how do i give you my dxdiag?
#1166 [10:58] <Wug> pastebin
#1167 [10:58] <Wug> all of this is explained in the dxdiag factoid that VoxelHead said earlier
#1168 [10:59] <Justin88> -- DXDiag is a more in-depth way of looking into your problem as it presents the community with your computers specifications that you normally wouldn't know of the top of your head. An experienced use can view it and solve your problem much easier through use of this info.
#1169 [10:59] <Example1999> the win&R Keys?
#1170 [11:00] <Justin88> Hold Windows symbol key , hold R. Release. Type dxdiag in the box that appears.
#1171 [11:01] <Justin88> Did that work for you ?
#1172 [11:01] <Wug> ?? win/key
#1173 [11:01] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1174 [11:02] <Example1999> yes it worked. i have the information saved to my desktop, now what?
#1175 [11:02] <Justin88> Wow, you guys really made it "User-Friendly" in these pebkac situations :]
#1176 [11:03] <Justin88> Now what ?
#1177 [11:03] <Justin88> Open the file it made for you
#1178 [11:03] <Justin88> Highlight all the contents and copy them
#1179 [11:03] <Example1999> ive done that, then..?
#1180 [11:04] <Justin88> go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste the info you copied and click submit
#1181 [11:04] <Example1999> okay will do
#1182 [11:04] <Thrae> Justin88: Sometimes people need extra reassurance of each-and-every-step
#1183 [11:04] <Justin88> Ikr
#1184 [11:05] <Example1999> ive pasted it
#1185 [11:05] <Justin88> Okay did you also Submit it ?
#1186 [11:05] <Example1999> yes
#1187 [11:05] <Thrae> Example1999: We need to the URL it sends you to after you submit it.
#1188 [11:06] <Example1999> okay
#1189 [11:06] <Justin88> If you did and it sent you to a page copy the address of that page and put it here
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#1191 [11:06] <Example1999> http://pastebin.com/gsX6Kmv1
#1192 [11:06] <Wug> that is very much not a 590
#1193 [11:07] <Thrae> Wow
#1194 [11:07] <Justin88> peb..
#1195 [11:07] <Thrae> Example1999: Your computer is ooooold
#1196 [11:07] <Example1999> yes
#1197 [11:07] <Justin88> Ill direct you to the right page for your driver if someone doesnt beat me to it
#1198 [11:07] <Thrae> Oh hey, Nvidia changed their site
#1199 [11:07] <Example1999> i know ;D
#1200 [11:08] <Wug> Example1999: getting minecraft to run on 512MB ram will be challenging
#1201 [11:08] <Wug> consider upgrading to a newer rig
#1202 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> Try http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_175.19_whql.html
#1203 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> And http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#1204 [11:08] <Justin88> agh lol
#1205 [11:08] <Justin88> just about to paste
#1206 [11:08] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1206 [11:09] <Justin88> heh heh
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#1208 [11:09] <Gurkenglas> Anyone got an 1.9.4 server up? (why is the topic outdated?)
#1209 [11:09] <Thrae> Gurkenglas: Because we don't support pre-releases here
#1210 [11:10] <Wug> nobody reads it anyway
#1211 [11:10] <Justin88> I need to figure out this server business now that I'm done with TNT. That Minecraft server . exe thing doesnt even tell me anything about the address or w.e. it does
#1212 [11:10] <RobinJ24> I dont get why they release pre releases
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#1214 [11:11] <Thrae> RobinJ24: Minecraft is so popular that it would be cruel to officially releases unstable/dev releases before they're ready, but they need the testing
#1215 [11:12] <Thrae> Justin88: whatismyip.com for your external IP, portforward.com for information on how to setup port forwarding
#1216 [11:13] <Thrae> Justin88: If you're connecting locally then just 127.0.0.1, which is the same for pretty much any server software
#1217 [11:13] <Justin88> Oh ive done both of those in a sense for my own gaming needs
#1218 [11:14] <Justin88> Like i did the "it's easy , download this .exe" and it said server is up .. but It doesnt say the address so I can let someone e... oh is it my reg ip ?
#1219 [11:14] <Thrae> Justin88: Well then the default is to bind to all available addresses on port 25565, which the GUI says it does
#1220 [11:14] <Justin88> I cant name it like i see other people do ?
#1221 [11:14] <Thrae> Justin88: "Naming" a server like minecraft.foo.com requires a DNS, that's what DNS does, resolve domains to IP addresses.
#1222 [11:15] <Thrae> Justin88: Lookup dynamic DNS like noip.com
#1223 [11:15] <Thrae> Justin88: This is something totally non-Minecraft specific, as I was saying :)
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#1228 [11:26] <Justin88> Hmph
#1229 [11:26] <Justin88> Have to buy minecraft when I get home then =/
#1230 [11:26] <Justin88> I didn't think I was actually gonna buy it
#1231 [11:26] <Justin88> grrrr
#1232 [11:27] <Justin88> Although It is more fun and appealing to me then RAGE , a game id tech took 7 years to make . =
#1233 [11:33] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1233 [11:40] * Morrolan hands GreyVulpine a tissue
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#1235 [11:49] <Thunder7102> Random question. I loaded my entire Minecraft server folder into memory and I got the "overloaded" question. Is that bad?
#1236 [11:52] <Morrolan> Well, surely it's not a lack of I/O speed which causes that message now. ;)
#1237 [11:53] <Thunder7102> ?
#1238 [11:53] <Morrolan> Well, normally that message is simply the HDD not being able to keep up. But since you're using a Ramdisk that shouldn't be a problem.
#1239 [11:53] <Morrolan> Generally speaking, as long as you don't get that message all the time - just ignore it. ;)
#1240 [11:53] <Thunder7102> alright. My RAM is at 77%
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#1242 [11:54] <quibbit> Hey guys
#1243 [11:54] <quibbit> I neeed
#1244 [11:54] <quibbit> Help
#1245 [11:54] <quibbit> PLEASE help
#1246 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> omg
#1247 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> what
#1248 [11:54] <quibbit> connection reset
#1249 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> sort of
#1250 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> help do
#1251 [11:54] <Thunder7102> I need a way to check my server speed. :P
#1252 [11:54] <quibbit> fatal
#1253 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> you need?
#1254 [11:54] <quibbit> Errpr 4
#1255 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> Does this
#1256 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> happen
#1257 [11:55] <quibbit> connection reset fatal error 4
#1258 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> on all
#1259 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> servers?
#1260 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Could you
#1261 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Try
#1262 [11:55] <quibbit> help
#1263 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> s.nerd.nu
#1264 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> For a server?
#1265 [11:55] <Morrolan> Vox, mute GreyVulpine already XD
#1266 [11:55] <quibbit> heyya
#1267 [11:55] <quibbit> guys!
#1268 [11:55] <quibbit> please
#1269 [11:55] <quibbit> Let me speak
#1270 [11:55] <quibbit> I have an error
#1271 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Could you
#1272 [11:55] <quibbit> It is
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#1274 [11:55] <Morrolan> quibbit: Try the server GreyVulpine linked you to. ;)
#1275 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> put more than a few words on a line?
#1276 [11:55] <quibbit> Fatal error (4)
#1277 [11:55] <quibbit> connection reset?
#1278 [11:55] <quibbit> any help?
#1279 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Does it happen on all servers? Could you try s.nerd.nu
#1280 [11:56] <Morrolan> Yea, does it happen on any server, or just a specific one?
#1281 [11:56] <Morrolan> Ok, he's yours. :D
#1282 [11:56] * GreyVulpine shoves Morrolan forward
#1282 [11:56] <quibbit> wait wait
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#1284 [11:56] <quibbit> I can't get in minecraft because it can;t download the files
#1285 [11:56] <mib_nx1c5o> hello
#1286 [11:56] <quibbit> :/
#1287 [11:56] <quibbit> |
#1288 [11:56] <quibbit> \
#1289 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Then your security software or firewall is blocking minecraft from downloading those files
#1290 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> please do not spam here
#1291 [11:57] <quibbit> ok
#1292 [11:57] <quibbit> so how do i stop it spamming?
#1293 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> It takes time for us to write these responses, we're not robots
#1294 [11:57] <quibbit> I mean blocking?
#1295 [11:57] <Morrolan> mib_nx1c5o: 'lo
#1296 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> All depends on what software you're running. There's hundreds of diffferent suites out there, each with their own proprietary system of protection
#1297 [11:57] <mib_nx1c5o> i need help... ich have the gift code redeem but the gamelauncher says i´m not premium?
#1298 [11:58] <quibbit> I am using AVG
#1299 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - Then try disabling AVG
#1300 [11:58] <quibbit> kk
#1301 [11:58] <Morrolan> mib_nx1c5o: After redeeming the code, did it tell you anything? And what is your Minecraft username?
#1302 [11:58] <quibbit> but willl my computer be affected?
#1303 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - Just try it.
#1304 [11:58] <mib_nx1c5o> my minecraft username is DJOD1N
#1305 [11:59] <mib_nx1c5o> und after redeem says congratulations
#1306 [11:59] <quibbit> There is no way to exit AVG?
#1307 [11:59] <Morrolan> !paid DJOD1N
#1308 [11:59] <Morrolan> Hmm, could you try to redeem the code again, mib_nx1c5o?
#1309 [11:59] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - Yes there is
#1310 [12:00] <quibbit> how?
#1311 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> http://free.avg.com/ww-en/faq.num-2429
#1312 [12:01] <mib_nx1c5o> i have buy the key by www.gameladen.com and i can not redeem it again he says "Invalid gift code or already used"
#1313 [12:01] <clarjon1> mib_nx1c5o: You can only use the key once
#1314 [12:02] <clarjon1> email the support
#1315 [12:02] <quibbit> Im running Free edition is there any difference?
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#1317 [12:02] <quibbit> Ah I got it don't worry
#1318 [12:02] <Morrolan> mib_nx1c5o: Bah, Mojang does not really support buying giftcodes from anywhere but www.minecraft.net
#1319 [12:02] <mib_nx1c5o> can you give me pls the mail adress from support
#1320 [12:03] <quibbit> done that now I will try
#1321 [12:03] <quibbit> YEs
#1322 [12:03] <quibbit> Thanks mate!
#1323 [12:03] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1323 [12:03] <quibbit> ah no
#1324 [12:03] <quibbit> It stopped
#1325 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - Where did it stop?
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#1327 [12:03] <quibbit> wait let me test again
#1328 [12:04] <Morrolan> mib_nx1c5o: As I said, Mojang does not support buying the game from anywhere but their site (www.minecraft.net) see: http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
#1329 [12:04] <quibbit> lwjgl_util.jar 2%
#1330 [12:04] <Morrolan> mib_nx1c5o: So I fear that your only hope is to contact the support of the site you bought it from
#1331 [12:04] <quibbit> is were it stopped
#1332 [12:05] <supertux> Whenever i try to login i get the error message: cant connect to minecraft.net
#1333 [12:06] <mib_nx1c5o> the code was indeed detected was not only activated my account so I would say the direct support of the fan `s also because it would probably be a problem other hand, is
#1334 [12:06] <supertux> And when i try to play it in my browser it just doesnt work, it says done loading but nothing happens
#1335 [12:07] <supertux> what should i do?
#1336 [12:07] <Morrolan> supertux: Did it ever work before?
#1337 [12:07] <Morrolan> mib_nx1c5o: I'm not too sure what you mean, sorry.
#1338 [12:07] <supertux> no
#1339 [12:07] <mib_nx1c5o> shit google translater ^^ i am from german and my englisch ist not so good
#1340 [12:08] <Morrolan> supertux: Did you ever use a pirated version of Minecraft?
#1341 [12:09] <mib_nx1c5o> mean you me with piratet version?
#1342 [12:09] <supertux> no, but i tried the online free beta on minecraft.net which i downloaded
#1343 [12:09] <Morrolan> supertux: Uhm, the online free beta which you downloaded? The demo version? Or the classic version?
#1344 [12:10] <supertux> demo version
#1345 [12:11] <Morrolan> Ok. Are you using any security software which could block Minecraft from accessing the internet?
#1346 [12:12] <supertux> i got micrsoft securety essentials
#1347 [12:13] <Morrolan> Hmm, in this case could you check whether Minecraft is allowed through the Windows firewall?
#1348 [12:13] <supertux> sec
#1349 [12:13] <quibbit> Fatal error (4) connection reset fix peasE??
#1350 [12:13] <quibbit> please*?
#1351 [12:13] <supertux> my firewall is deactivited, and still i cant run minecraft
#1352 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - Do you run any other security software?
#1353 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - Anything else other than AVG?
#1354 [12:14] <quibbit> I just deativated firewall
#1355 [12:14] <quibbit> any other suggestions just in-case
#1356 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - Almost always is some sort of security software blocking the connection to minecraft because it's detecting a false positive. It thinks minecraft is downloading a virus
#1357 [12:15] <quibbit> It crashed again it in't the security software
#1358 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> If it's not that, then something's blocking the connection, or the download to your computer. Do you have access to a different computer?
#1359 [12:15] <quibbit> no not realy
#1360 [12:16] <quibbit> I have my other one but it in't technically my because it is too good for me lol
#1361 [12:16] <Thunder7102> You canot run Minecraft, or you cannot connect?
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#1363 [12:16] <quibbit> i can't update it the problem
#1364 [12:16] <supertux> cannot connect
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#1366 [12:17] <quibbit> are any u willing to put your bin folder on mediafire pleasE?
#1367 [12:18] <quibbit> should I disable linkscanner?
#1368 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> It's against mojang's terms of service to distribute files
#1369 [12:18] <quibbit> oh no
#1370 [12:18] <quibbit> Well any fixes?
#1371 [12:18] <quibbit> apart from disabling?
#1372 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure it's your security software
#1373 [12:19] <quibbit> well I will try it again
#1374 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> We've had quite a few reports of AVG blocking the download of lwjgl because it thinks it's a virus
#1375 [12:19] <quibbit> wait it all happened when there is a new update for avg but I in't updated it should I update it?
#1376 [12:20] <quibbit> Well still now download :(
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#1378 [12:21] <quibbit> It stopped at jinput.jar this time
#1379 [12:21] <Wug> GreyVulpine: what about that socket thing, or the other one
#1380 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> socket.. thing?
#1381 [12:22] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - Try going to your launcher, before logging in, go to the options menu, and hit "Force Update"
#1382 [12:22] <quibbit> I did
#1383 [12:22] <quibbit> try just then lol
#1384 [12:22] <quibbit> It got further mind
#1385 [12:23] <quibbit> well there is an 2012 vs should I dowload it??
#1386 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> 2012 vs?
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#1388 [12:24] <quibbit> 2012 version
#1389 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> of?
#1390 [12:25] <quibbit> AVG
#1391 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> Could try..
#1392 [12:26] <quibbit> well I am
#1393 [12:26] <quibbit> lol
#1394 [12:26] <Wug> GreyVulpine: wasnt there some windows xp network socket patch that was effective against this
#1395 [12:26] <Wug> and there was some program that could be stopped that would sometimes allow it to work
#1396 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Wug - That was with a different error.. address family not found or something
#1397 [12:27] <quibbit> hey greyvulpin you should make an youtube channel for all these fix's
#1398 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> quibbit - Youtube.. don't make me laugh
#1399 [12:27] <Wug> the youtube community are all retarded
#1400 [12:28] <RobinJ24> lol Almost everyone use youtune
#1401 [12:28] <RobinJ24> youtube*
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#1403 [12:28] <Wug> you know what I mean
#1404 [12:29] <quibbit> lol
#1405 [12:29] <TheNoodle> ^
#1406 [12:29] <quibbit> I do youtube videos but they are rubbish lo
#1407 [12:29] <quibbit> l
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#1410 [12:29] <hirsty> hello anyone available?
#1411 [12:29] <RobinJ24> my sonic video got featured on a famous french sonic site once
#1412 [12:29] <RobinJ24> lul
#1413 [12:29] <RobinJ24> well I assume it's kinda famous in france
#1414 [12:30] <quibbit> lol
#1415 [12:30] <quibbit> testing?
#1416 [12:30] <supertux> I have deleted ecery single anti-virus program, deactivated my firewall and deleted everything that has something to do with minecraft
#1417 [12:30] <supertux> every*
#1418 [12:30] <supertux> then i downloaded minecraft and still, still it doenst work
#1419 [12:31] <Morrolan> ??> supertux win/hosts
#1420 [12:31] <VoxelHead> supertux: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1421 [12:31] <VoxelHead> supertux: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1422 [12:31] <Morrolan> Follow the instructions VoxelHead provided you with, supertux.
#1423 [12:31] <supertux> k
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#1425 [12:32] <hirsty> im running a custom MC server that uses an SQL server to store things such as block locations, however when i remove the map and recreate it, the blocks are not regenerated?
#1426 [12:32] <nekronuke> Why wasnt hirsty helpef
#1427 [12:32] <nekronuke> Oh
#1428 [12:32] <nekronuke> Here he is
#1429 [12:32] <nekronuke> >_>
#1430 [12:32] <hirsty> lol
#1431 [12:33] <supertux> # copyright (c) 1993-2006 microsoft corp.
#1432 [12:33] <supertux> # this is a sample hosts file used by microsoft tcp/ip for windows.
#1433 [12:33] <supertux> # this file contains the mappings of ip addresses to host names. each
#1434 [12:33] <supertux> # entry should be kept on an individual line. the ip address should
#1435 [12:33] <supertux> # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
#1436 [12:34] <nekronuke> What
#1437 [12:34] <TheNoodle> on pastebin please.
#1438 [12:34] <supertux> pastebin?
#1439 [12:34] <TheNoodle> ...where's my +v gone lol
#1440 [12:34] <TheNoodle> http://pastebin.com
#1441 [12:34] <hirsty> www.pastebin.org
#1442 [12:34] <nekronuke> !voice
#1443 [12:34] <nekronuke> >_>
#1444 [12:35] <supertux> http://pastebin.com/6T1tk2zh
#1445 [12:35] <supertux> here you go
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#1447 [12:36] <mib_l18g8a> hey it is me quibbit
#1448 [12:36] <mib_l18g8a> Any help
#1449 [12:37] <nekronuke> Whats your question
#1450 [12:37] <hirsty> Can anyone help ?? :d wanting to eventually get this freebuild server up and running :D
#1451 [12:38] <TheNoodle> supertux, who was helping you?
#1452 [12:38] <TheNoodle> !flags thenoodle
#1453 [12:39] <supertux> voxel head
#1454 [12:39] <nekronuke> I thought vhead was a bot >_>
#1455 [12:42] <hirsty> am i right in saying an sql based Minecraft server retrieves its block information/location from the database?
#1456 [12:42] <nekronuke> Hirsty wait a few hours and come back, maybe someone will know later
#1457 [12:42] <nekronuke> Or ask Medsouz in #risucraft
#1458 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> No idea, haven't dealt with anything like that at all. I'm mostly familiar with the vanilla server, anything else, you'll want to hit up #canary, or #bukkit, or the respective modded server package
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#1460 [12:44] <quibbit> tHey
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#1462 [12:45] <quibbit> It didn't work greyvulpine???
#1463 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> And you've tried just completely disabling avg altogether?
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#1465 [12:48] <quibbit> How do I do that then???
#1466 [12:48] <quibbit> How do I enable UAC
#1467 [12:48] <quibbit> Because is started when I disabled that?
#1468 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> Open up AVG, there should be an icon in your system tray for AVG, by the clock. Look for resident shield, disable it
#1469 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> Afterwards, try a full delete of minecraft, by following these instructions:
#1470 [12:49] <GreyVulpine> ??> quibbit win/reinst
#1471 [12:49] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1472 [12:49] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1473 [12:51] <quibbit> Well I can't disable avg
#1474 [12:51] <quibbit> there is no resident shield in 2012
#1475 [12:52] <quibbit> ah it stops at Retrieving
#1476 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> This: http://free.avg.com/ww-en/faq.num-4406#num-4406 -- Says there is.
#1477 [12:55] <EdgeHM> Hey um... blocks aren't disappearing when I destroy them. Is that normal?
#1478 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> SP? MP?
#1479 [12:56] <EdgeHM> Both.
#1480 [12:56] <quibbit> Stopped at 32%
#1481 [12:56] <Morrolan> Do you keep the mouse button pressed, EdgeHM?
#1482 [12:56] <Wug> GreyVulpine: what was the program called
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#1484 [12:56] <Wug> relevant something?
#1485 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> Wug - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/587899-failed-to-launch-fatal-error-occured-4/page__p__7769299#entry7769299
#1486 [12:57] <|Kiichan|Schala|> .o.
#1487 [12:57] <Wug> relevant knowledge
#1488 [12:57] <EdgeHM> No, the blocks are breaking and dropping things and I can go through them, but they aren't disappearing.
#1489 [12:57] <Wug> have you checked for it
#1490 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> No, because I haven't gotten that error...
#1491 [12:57] <quibbit> greyvulpine bassicaly my whole minecraft is messed up :(
#1492 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Or, at least, he hasn't said he's got that error
#1493 [12:58] <EdgeHM> I've already deleting all of the minecraft files and having it reinstall, and the problem still persists.
#1494 [13:00] <quibbit> Hello greyvulpine is it right that my minecraft is completely messed up??
#1495 [13:00] <quibbit> Or can u fix it??
#1496 [13:01] <nekronuke> Delete your mc folder
#1497 [13:01] <nekronuke> Force update
#1498 [13:01] <quibbit> who me??
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#1500 [13:02] <quibbit> It don't work soo angry!!!!
#1501 [13:02] <EdgeHM> Already tried that. Didn't work.
#1502 [13:02] <quibbit> Ah I'm never gonna play minecraft again, am I?
#1503 [13:03] <EdgeHM> It's a problem that shows up gradually. It starts with blocks not disappearing, and then it moves on to chunks not loading.
#1504 [13:04] <quibbit> You always say that lol
#1505 [13:05] <quibbit> RRR¬!!!!! PLEASe someone just help me!!!1
#1506 [13:05] <quibbit> Realy wanna play minecraft
#1507 [13:05] <quibbit> quick quick
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#1509 [13:06] <EdgeHM> Take your time. I can do other things until a solution can be found.
#1510 [13:06] <quibbit> I realy need minecraft
#1511 [13:06] <quibbit> please
#1512 [13:06] <quibbit> just please
#1513 [13:06] <quibbit> Please
#1514 [13:06] <quibbit> Help me
#1515 [13:07] <RedSunset> hello, i have a question (sorry for my bad english) i tried to install the water shader mod 1.8.1 like some vids in youtube. but now there is a massage: Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to supp
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#1517 [13:08] <RedSunset> can you please help me?
#1518 [13:08] <quibbit> More like help me I can't even play minecraft!!
#1519 [13:08] <quibbit> and what is your problem?
#1520 [13:09] <RedSunset> that minecraft doesnt work
#1521 [13:09] <quibbit> mine won't update
#1522 [13:09] <RedSunset> no, its updated
#1523 [13:09] <RedSunset> ists version 1.8
#1524 [13:10] <RedSunset> but
#1525 [13:10] <RedSunset> the mod water shader let minecraft crash
#1526 [13:10] <quibbit> 1 Can u please upload the bin file to mediafire.com ?
#1527 [13:10] <Wug> RedSunset: force update to uninstall the mods
#1528 [13:10] <Wug> we don't provide mod support here
#1529 [13:11] <Morrolan> Select "options" in the launcher and press "force update", then launch the game, RedSunset
#1530 [13:11] <quibbit> Who cares
#1531 [13:11] <quibbit> I need help
#1532 [13:11] <Wug> :tv > quibbit
#1533 [13:11] <WugBot> quibbit: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1534 [13:11] <WugBot> quibbit: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /pm user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1535 [13:11] <Wug> I told you this like an hour ago
#1536 [13:11] <quibbit> Did u?
#1537 [13:11] <quibbit> Well someone was helping me it eas greyvulping!
#1538 [13:12] <RedSunset> please not so much at once so what do i have to do?
#1539 [13:13] <quibbit> please need help
#1540 [13:13] <quibbit> !!!!
#1541 [13:13] <quibbit> please
#1542 [13:13] <Morrolan> quibbit: Would you kindly follow the instructions Wug(bot) provided you with?
#1543 [13:13] <Morrolan> RedSunset: Launcher -> Options -> Force update -> log in
#1544 [13:13] <Morrolan> easy enough, isn't it? ;)
#1545 [13:14] <quibbit> NOO
#1546 [13:14] <quibbit> It crashes when updating"
#1547 [13:14] <Morrolan> quibbit: And Wug seemingly wants to help you with TV. Either take that help or don't, it's up to you.
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#1549 [13:15] <Luigi> Hello?
#1550 [13:15] <quibbit> HElp i will
#1551 [13:15] <quibbit> TV?
#1552 [13:15] <quibbit> what?
#1553 [13:15] <RedSunset> ok ähm at first i opened it, than i was logged in, than the logo from mojang comes and then there is this crashing message
#1554 [13:15] <quibbit> update redsunset
#1555 [13:16] <Morrolan> RedSunset: As I said. Open the launcher (the thing where you log in), then select "options", and chose "force update". Then log in and let it redownload the files.
#1556 [13:16] <Luigi> Do some of you 2 know the e-mail address where I can contact from mojang AB?
#1557 [13:16] <Luigi> *someone
#1558 [13:16] <Morrolan> Luigi: support@mojang.com would be one. Payment@mojang.com for payment stuff
#1559 [13:17] <Luigi> Ow ok. Thank you!
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#1561 [13:18] <RedSunset> +ok i did and now i have to wait
#1562 [13:19] <RedSunset> oh man thanks youre the best ^^ now i can play again :D
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#1564 [13:25] <Kevin> anyone available?
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#1567 [13:28] <Ahhhk> Hey all
#1568 [13:28] <RobinJ24> !check mc.tux2mc.com
#1569 [13:28] <RobinJ24> -__-
#1570 [13:28] <RobinJ24> It is a minecraft server you retarded bot
#1571 [13:29] <Iridium> lol
#1572 [13:29] <RobinJ24> !check huckcraft.dyndns.org
#1573 [13:29] <|Kiikun|> the motd stuff not working?
#1574 [13:30] <Ahhhk> Have multiple computers with multiple purchased copies of MC. Installed Java and 1.8.1 on a new W7 machine a week ago. Was working great all week, but now (with no changes made to the computer since) the CPU is maxed out whenever MC is running - and MC gets like 1 frame ever 5 seconds. Checked the TM, and javaw.exe is sucking up 99% CPU while MC is running
#1575 [13:30] <Ahhhk> Any ideas?
#1576 [13:30] <RobinJ24> |Kiikun|: Could that be why aubot is being dumb?
#1577 [13:31] <|Kiikun|> RobinJ24: the 'doesnt look like' is it not being able to validly parse the server stuff that woudl show up if you added the server to your ingame list
#1578 [13:32] <RobinJ24> The owner had a too long motd which resulted in a No connection message in the server list on minecraft but !check still worked
#1579 [13:32] <RobinJ24> he said he made it shorter
#1580 [13:32] <RobinJ24> Now he says he fixed it..
#1581 [13:32] <RobinJ24> !check mc.tux2mc.com
#1582 [13:33] <RobinJ24> LOL nice motd
#1583 [13:36] <Iridium> can anybody link me to a block swapper or light switch tutorial that actually works with glass?
#1584 [13:36] <Iridium> all the ones i find won't work with glass
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#1588 [13:47] <mudpitet> cant set a server any help here??
#1589 [13:47] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Tried a new world?
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#1592 [13:48] <mudpitet> yup dident work with multiplayer :(
#1593 [13:48] <GarrettRhodes> hello what is wrong with my minecraft?? im running classic and it says there is an error
#1594 [13:48] <Thrae> GarrettRhodes: Paste the error to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#1595 [13:48] <GarrettRhodes> umm ok ill try
#1596 [13:49] <Thrae> mudpitet: You're trying to set up a server or connect to one?
#1597 [13:49] <mudpitet> im trying to setup :P
#1598 [13:49] <Ahhhk> Thrae: No, because it maxes the CPU before I even get to the world selection (ie Main Screen)
#1599 [13:49] <mudpitet> ok
#1600 [13:49] <mudpitet> :D
#1601 [13:50] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Try copying the world over to another location and letting the server generate a new world.
#1602 [13:50] <RobinJ24> LOL I realized today how stupid it looks when the characters run in Classic
#1603 [13:50] <mudpitet> ok thank u very much thrae
#1604 [13:50] <GarrettRhodes> ok
#1605 [13:50] <GarrettRhodes> http://pastebin.com/fkZtvgxt
#1606 [13:51] <Thrae> mudpitet: I'm not talking to you
#1607 [13:51] <Thrae> mudpitet: You should follow http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1608 [13:51] <Ahhhk> Thrae: Dont mean to sound stupid, but how does a saved world have anything to do with it when Im only at the main screen (and havent selected a world yet)?
#1609 [13:52] <GarrettRhodes> Thrae: heres the link http://pastebin.com/fkZtvgxt
#1610 [13:52] <Thrae> GarrettRhodes: OK, if you go to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp and select "Test Java", does it say Java is working? What version does it show?
#1611 [13:52] <GarrettRhodes> oh i had an old java running
#1612 [13:52] <GarrettRhodes> crap :(
#1613 [13:53] <GarrettRhodes> well that fixes it i guess...
#1614 [13:53] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Ah sorry I mis-read your problem as having to do with the Minecraft Server...OK, try using this batch file
#1615 [13:53] <Thrae> ??> Ahhhk win/reinst/bat
#1616 [13:53] <VoxelHead> Ahhhk: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1617 [13:53] <VoxelHead> Ahhhk: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#1618 [13:54] <GarrettRhodes> thanks thrae
#1619 [13:54] * Thrae nods to GarrettRhodes
#1619 [13:54] <Ahhhk> I already tried deleting the /bin/resource folders then let MC reinstall. Didnt fix it. Will the batch do something different?
#1620 [13:54] * GarrettRhodes asks where the minecraft chat server is because java is updating and he doesnt want to open it and mess up java.
#1620 [13:54] <Ahhhk> err... /bin AND /resources
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#1623 [13:55] <Thrae> Ahhhk: The batch file has some tricks, just try it anyway and let it re-download
#1624 [13:55] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Also remove any texture packs you have installed (copy them somewhere else)
#1625 [13:56] <Ahhhk> okie thanks. Will give it a shot.
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#1627 [13:56] <Ahhhk> This is my 4yo son's computer (no mods/TPs/etc) :)
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#1629 [13:57] <murdrums> Your 4 year old son has a computer?
#1630 [13:57] <Thrae> I used a computer when I was 4 years old...didn't OWN one
#1631 [13:57] <Ahhhk> haha...yes. My oldest Daughter (now 10) got her first one for her 1st burfday
#1632 [13:59] <Ahhhk> Didnt get my first C64 until I was 14. Trying to do better by the offspring :)
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#1634 [14:01] <TheNoodle> ....Give this man an internet.
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#1636 [14:04] <Ahhhk> The batch link seems to be dead
#1637 [14:05] <Ahhhk> Somebody's machine is off :)
#1638 [14:05] <Thrae> !isdown woogly.dnsdojo.net
#1639 [14:05] <GreyBot> Thrae: It's not just you! http://woogly.dnsdojo.net looks down from here.
#1640 [14:06] <Thrae> Wug: <@GreyBot> Thrae: It's not just you! http://woogly.dnsdojo.net looks down from here.
#1641 [14:06] <Thrae> Ahhhk: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1642 [14:07] <Ahhhk> Thanks!
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#1646 [14:12] <Wug> ?
#1647 [14:12] <Wug> huh
#1648 [14:18] <Thrae> Wug: Isn't that your domain?
#1649 [14:20] <Ahhhk> Thrae: No change
#1650 [14:20] <Wug> my dyndns account expired
#1651 [14:20] <Wug> well shit dammit
#1652 [14:20] <Wug> I'm probably not going to be able to get that domain back
#1653 [14:21] <Thrae> Ahhhk: OK, hmm. When you go to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp is everything OK there? Does it say Java 6 Update 27?
#1654 [14:21] <Wug> dickboobs
#1655 [14:22] * Wug silently rages
#1655 [14:22] <Ahhhk> Will have to check, but I just clean installed the latest ver a week or so ago
#1656 [14:22] <Wug> wugserv.student.rit.edu works
#1657 [14:22] <Wug> use that instead
#1658 [14:22] <Wug> I'll change all the factoids later -.-
#1659 [14:22] <RobinJ24> What is a dickboob?
#1660 [14:22] <Ahhhk> Those dyndns bastards!
#1661 [14:23] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Sometimes things can get messed up on a clean install too =/
#1662 [14:23] <Thrae> Especially with the 1,000 reboots you have to do installing updates
#1663 [14:23] <Ahhhk> It hasnt been rebooted since :)
#1664 [14:24] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Did you go through all the updates in Windows Update? Does your Windows 7 install already have Service Pack 1 on it?
#1665 [14:24] <Ahhhk> Updates are set to manual. He doesnt have an admin account.
#1666 [14:25] <Ahhhk> Yes. Set the machine up about two weeks ago and installed all the updates. Havent installed any since.
#1667 [14:25] <Thrae> OK. Believe it or not, we get a lot of people who don't use Windows Update, period.
#1668 [14:26] <Ahhhk> Oh, trust me....I believe you. Been dealing with people and their PCs for 20 years...haha
#1669 [14:28] <Thrae> If Java tests OK then...wait. did you say you haven't rebooted the machine since 2 weeks ago?
#1670 [14:29] <Ahhhk> Yes. We (read: I) run stable machines around here. My primary machines gets rebooted maybe once every 2 months.
#1671 [14:30] <Ahhhk> Then again, I dont have JAVA/MC on mine.... :)
#1672 [14:32] <Thrae> Well ultimately this is a desktop/workstation Windows OS and they're coded to be rebooted every now and then -- doing stuff like scanning open handles, processes, etc. is a PITA and you can still get "Access Denied" messages. So I suggest rebooting in case it's some type of corruption.
#1673 [14:33] <Thrae> Gaming and uptime don't mix.
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#1676 [14:38] <Ahhhk> "Your Java is Working".....latest installed.....r27...
#1677 [14:40] <Ahhhk> Coincidentally enough, all the other machines I built (and those that have MC run fine). His is an HP (that I wiped and did a non-HP-bloated W7 install on. Hrmmm...
#1678 [14:40] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Trying a reboot?
#1679 [14:40] <Ahhhk> Yes, rebooted
#1680 [14:40] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Do you get your drivers directly from HP.com or do you get them from the chipset manufacturer?
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#1682 [14:41] <Ahhhk> Drivers from HP? hahaha...no
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#1684 [14:41] <Ahhhk> From the mobo site. Vid drivers from Nvidia, etc
#1685 [14:42] <Thrae> Ahhhk: What version of the Nvidia drivers?
#1686 [14:42] <Ahhhk> The latest one (installed before coming here)
#1687 [14:43] <Ahhhk> Dont remember the ver....8 something
#1688 [14:43] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Try doing a Custom Install, selecting "Clean Install", and install 285.27 (Beta)
#1689 [14:44] <Ahhhk> 285/284...yeah...that was it (not beta though). And I did a clean install.
#1690 [14:45] <Thrae> Well 285.27 is the version I use and I find it perfectly stable for gaming, so we're doing elimination here.
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#1692 [14:46] <Ahhhk> I would have said the same thing about the version I had installed (prior to this morning...when MC was running fine). Will give it a shot though!
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#1694 [14:47] <Thrae> Java eating up all your CPU usage is definitely not typical (actually never heard it before outside mods/textures), so I'm running through elimination here.
#1695 [14:48] <Ahhhk> I know. Im stumped to. Thats why Im here :)
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#1697 [14:50] <oyasunadev> hello
#1698 [14:50] <oyasunadev> is anyone there?
#1699 [14:50] <oyasunadev> i have a question
#1700 [14:50] <Thrae> ?? ask
#1701 [14:50] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1702 [14:50] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1703 [14:50] <oyasunadev> why was the official classic server software taken off the site? and where can i down?
#1704 [14:51] <oyasunadev> *download it
#1705 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> It's still available at http://www.minecraft.net/classic/list
#1706 [14:51] <oyasunadev> no
#1707 [14:51] <oyasunadev> im talking about the server software
#1708 [14:52] <oyasunadev> the official classic software
#1709 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it's right there
#1710 [14:52] <oyasunadev> where?
#1711 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> "Looking to host a server? Here's the software for that. "
#1712 [14:52] <oyasunadev> i dont see that
#1713 [14:52] <Thrae> oyasunadev: Log out
#1714 [14:52] <oyasunadev> and im not hosting a server
#1715 [14:52] <oyasunadev> im making a new server software
#1716 [14:53] <oyasunadev> and i want to take a look at notches native code
#1717 [14:53] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Apparently that line doesn't show up when you're logged in to minecraft.net
#1718 [14:53] <oyasunadev> for packets
#1719 [14:53] * GreyVulpine sighs
#1719 [14:53] <oyasunadev> oh ok
#1720 [14:53] <Thrae> oyasunadev: Log out of minecraft.net
#1721 [14:53] <oyasunadev> ok thanks
#1722 [14:53] <oyasunadev> also if anyone would like to help with the programming or join the maniamod development team in any way, message me
#1723 [14:54] <oyasunadev> we are looking for experienced java programmers, with at lease 3 years of experience
#1724 [14:55] <Wug> this is modding for classic?
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#1726 [14:56] <oyasunadev> no not modding
#1727 [14:56] <oyasunadev> server software
#1728 [14:56] <Wug> I write server mods
#1729 [14:56] <oyasunadev> in java?
#1730 [14:56] <Wug> I might actually update them soon because we're supposedly staying with 1.8 until mid november
#1731 [14:57] <Wug> and yes, in java. but I'm not particularly interested
#1732 [14:57] <oyasunadev> im talking about classic though
#1733 [14:57] <Wug> so yes, classic
#1734 [14:57] <Wug> you couldve just said yes when I asked
#1735 [14:58] <Wug> I played with some server software for classic written in c++ before I bought alpha
#1736 [14:58] <Wug> (it was still alpha then)
#1737 [14:58] <Thrae> There's modding the official server software and writing a server from the ground up, and I believe oyasunadev means the former not the latter, hence server mods
#1738 [14:58] <Wug> he means the latter
#1739 [14:59] <Wug> not the former. I still am not interested
#1740 [14:59] <Jammy> who's bot is aubot? and if it is someone here do you mind letting me know how the !check command is done, mainly want to get a way to know when a server comes online without needing to be ingame, and would prefer to avoid spamming aubot :P
#1741 [14:59] <Wug> Jammy: first of all, by all means, spam aubot
#1742 [14:59] <Wug> second of all, theres a special request that can be sent to any server
#1743 [15:00] <Wug> it responds with a kick message containing the motd and the number of players connected/maximum
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#1747 [15:02] <MinecraftProblem> Hi
#1748 [15:02] <Jammy`> grr
#1749 [15:02] <Jammy`> hoover plus internet = fail :P
#1750 [15:02] <MinecraftProblem> Is this where i can help with MC problems?
#1751 [15:02] <MinecraftProblem> get help
#1752 [15:02] <Thrae> MinecraftProblem: Yes, please continue
#1753 [15:02] <Jammy`> electrics in my house ftl
#1754 [15:02] <Thrae> Jammy: That's what surge protectors are for
#1755 [15:02] <Jammy> have
#1756 [15:03] <Jammy> it really does not make logical sense why it disconnects
#1757 [15:03] <Thrae> Power Strip != Surge Protector != Surge Suppressor
#1758 [15:03] <Ahhhk> Thrae: 285.27...no change
#1759 [15:03] <MinecraftProblem> My friend bought the game, keeps getting a black screen / not downloaded problem. Tried deleting all minecraft files (inc .minecraft). tried re-installing java. When he tried to play the game in-browser it gets stuck on "Done loading"
#1760 [15:03] * Ahhhk sighs...
#1760 [15:03] <Jammy> sort of a UPS i don't think it would work :P
#1761 [15:03] <Jammy> short*
#1762 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> MinecraftProblem - Operating system?
#1763 [15:04] <MinecraftProblem> win 7 64
#1764 [15:04] <Thrae> Ahhhk: OK, have you tried removing .minecraft completely?
#1765 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> MinecraftProblem - Do you know if his windows username happens to have an exclaimation mark (!) in it?
#1766 [15:04] <MinecraftProblem> yes, all traces completely
#1767 [15:04] <Ahhhk> Everything but the saves
#1768 [15:04] <MinecraftProblem> No
#1769 [15:04] <MinecraftProblem> its HarmLess7
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#1771 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> MinecraftProblem - His windows username?
#1772 [15:04] <MinecraftProblem> Oh
#1773 [15:04] <Thrae> Ahhhk: I thought I told you to remove those?
#1774 [15:04] <MinecraftProblem> that does
#1775 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> MinecraftProblem - That would be the problem then
#1776 [15:05] <MinecraftProblem> How do you fix?
#1777 [15:05] <MinecraftProblem> New account?
#1778 [15:05] <Ahhhk> No, that was when you were confused about what I had asked
#1779 [15:05] <MinecraftProblem> or can you rename
#1780 [15:05] <Thrae> Ahhhk: I didn't mean to delete them permanently, just move them out of the .minecraft folder so they're not loaded
#1781 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> MinecraftProblem - Two options. New windows user account, or you can use our workaround
#1782 [15:05] <Ahhhk> Okie....
#1783 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> ??> MinecraftProblem !
#1784 [15:05] <VoxelHead> MinecraftProblem: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#1785 [15:05] <MinecraftProblem> workaround?
#1786 [15:05] <VoxelHead> MinecraftProblem: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
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#1788 [15:05] <Feliciana> hi
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#1790 [15:06] <MinecraftProblem> let me try that
#1791 [15:06] <MinecraftProblem> sec
#1792 [15:06] <cookie71> hi i have a problem
#1793 [15:06] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Yeah, sorry, there's some parsing done on startup, I just got confused.
#1794 [15:06] <Feliciana> i'm running a server on windows with the official .exe, can i put plugins on this or do i have to set bukkit or something else ?
#1795 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Feliciana - The official server software has no plugin capability. You'll need to go with a modded solution like bukkit
#1796 [15:07] <Thrae> MinecraftProblem: Probably have to use http://wugserv.student.rit.edu/minecraft/fix/Install.exe instead of that link
#1797 [15:07] <cookie71> Grey vulpine dude can you help me out?
#1798 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> cookie71 - With?
#1799 [15:07] <Thrae> cookie71: No one can help you until you tell us what's wrong with as much detail as possible.
#1800 [15:07] <Feliciana> can i keep my world from the official if i change for bukkit ?
#1801 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> Feliciana - Yes you can
#1802 [15:08] <Feliciana> cool
#1803 [15:08] <Feliciana> is bukkit the best mod for servers or is there another one more supported ?
#1804 [15:08] <cookie71> When I try to run Minecraft, it stops after done loading and goes all BSOD. My friend says it could be a bug but ive waited 5 days any advice? I have tried deleting bin
#1805 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> BSOD, black screen of death?
#1806 [15:08] <cookie71> YES EXACTLY!!!!!
#1807 [15:08] <cookie71> very annoying
#1808 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> Feliciana - It's probably the most popular right now
#1809 [15:09] <Morrolan> Feliciana: There is also Canary, which is basically what has surrived of Hmod. YOu can find its channel at #canary . However, that mod is barely supported by plugin devs, so I suggest you go for bukkit.
#1810 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> cookie71 - Has it worked before?
#1811 [15:09] <cookie71> Yes alot
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#1814 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> cookie71 - Could you go to your .minecraft folder, delete everything but the saves folder
#1815 [15:09] <Thrae> Never heard of Minecraft locking up a system with a black screen as the "black screen of death" before
#1816 [15:09] <cookie71> I can play after the 1.8 until
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#1818 [15:10] <cookie71> Yes except this one thing
#1819 [15:11] <cookie71> Thrae After done loading. My friend says its a common bug that will go away in around a week or two aybe more
#1820 [15:11] <CPuff> I see Minecraft is down for Mac users?
#1821 [15:11] <cookie71> Yup
#1822 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> CPuff - Namely mac 10.5.8, on 1.8.1, yes
#1823 [15:11] <quibbit> is that why minecraft is craching for me?
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#1825 [15:11] <cookie71> GreyVulpine do you know>
#1826 [15:11] <cookie71> ?
#1827 [15:12] <CPuff> XD; I have no idea if that's me, but I get a black screen when I try going into my world. I just downloaded it so I'm unure if that's the problem
#1828 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> cookie71 - What operating system are you on?
#1829 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> CPuff - Do you have a mac running 10.5 or earlier?
#1830 [15:12] <cookie71> Windows xp, hp laptop
#1831 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> cookie71 - Could you go to your .minecraft folder, delete everything but the saves folder
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#1833 [15:12] <cookie71> yes i did that didnt help
#1834 [15:12] <Thrae> cookie71: Your friend is most likely talking about how the graphics requirements are going down in Minecraft version 1.9 to allow it to run better on systems with bad/obsolete drivers.
#1835 [15:12] <CPuff> Under "About this mac" it says I'm running 10.4.11
#1836 [15:13] <cookie71> I dont have 1.9 yet
#1837 [15:13] <cookie71> only 1.8
#1838 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> CPuff - Then yes, you've been affected by the mac incompatibility bug
#1839 [15:13] <Feliciana> thanks i try bukkit
#1840 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> cookie71 - You said before, that you deleted bin. Did you also delete resources and texturepacks as well?
#1841 [15:13] <CPuff> mmkay :) so I just wait a while until they fix that?
#1842 [15:13] <Thrae> ?? mac/10.5.8
#1843 [15:13] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#1844 [15:13] <cookie71> Is that in bin?
#1845 [15:13] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#1846 [15:13] <quibbit> What about a software update...will that do it
#1847 [15:14] <cookie71> Ok ill try that
#1848 [15:14] <Thrae> quibbit: Unfortunately Apple only includes updates to drivers in paid OS updates, not Software Updates.
#1849 [15:14] <cookie71> THanks.. If that doesnt help, Ill be back
#1850 [15:14] <cookie71> *ill
#1851 [15:14] <Thrae> CPuff: You can try the mod VoxelHead linked or wait until 1.9 is released. You can also try 1.9-pre4 now.
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#1854 [15:15] <CPuff> Has there been a date given for 1.9? Sorry for the dumb questions. I'm new
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#1857 [15:16] <madalynn> hello?
#1858 [15:16] <Thrae> CPuff: No date yet, but rumors are it'll be released near Minecon.
#1859 [15:17] <madalynn> anyone want to take a stab at helping with a log in issue?
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#1861 [15:17] <Thrae> madalynn: That's what we're here for.
#1862 [15:17] <Thrae> Stabbing, that is.
#1863 [15:17] <CPuff> I don't know when that is but I'm sure I can find it online :) I'll try the link given before and see if that fixes it. (it seems to be having problems downloading at the moment for some reason)
#1864 [15:17] <lemon-rev> thrae you managed to try 1 9 latest yet ?
#1865 [15:18] <madalynn> can log into minecraft locally but when I try to do it via a browser it says I dont have an account even tho i paid for premium...
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#1868 [15:18] <Autonome> hi... anyone here who is an expert with bukkit servers? :D
#1869 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Try #bukkit
#1870 [15:19] <madalynn> local ver is 1.5 running on a mac 10.5.8
#1871 [15:19] <mib_jfi62e> guys Im trying to connet to the classic MC the free one in browser. my java thing keeps popping up i keep hitting RUN but its not loading
#1872 [15:19] <mib_jfi62e> idk whats happeing
#1873 [15:19] <Thrae> madalynn: What's your Minecraft username?
#1874 [15:19] <mib_jfi62e> im on a mac if that helps
#1875 [15:19] <madalynn> skids007
#1876 [15:19] <Thrae> lemon-rev: Nope....I honestly don't play much of MC
#1877 [15:20] <Thrae> !paid skids007
#1878 [15:20] <lemon-rev> lol fair enough
#1879 [15:20] <CPuff> I'm having trouble downloading the GL13fix. Is there another place I can download it from please?
#1880 [15:20] <Thrae> madalynn: So you go to http://www.minecraft.net/play, login, and it says you're not Premium?
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#1883 [15:22] <krebbit> Minecraft is crashing for me about every couple minutes, and I'm seeing an error in the Java console which says that I ran our of memory. How can I solve this problem?
#1884 [15:22] <madalynn> it says invalid username or password... for the heck of it i tried to create a new account with the same name but it said it already exists. so i know the account is there but something got jacked up
#1885 [15:22] <lemon-rev> CPuff is that a mod ?
#1886 [15:22] <Ahhhk> Thrae: I deleted the entire .minecraft folder...uninstalled and reinstalled Java....and no change.
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#1888 [15:23] <CPuff> I believe so yes. I'm new but I'm trying to fix Minecraft's issues with Mac
#1889 [15:23] <lemon-rev> krebbit how much memory do you have installed on your machine ?, and is java uptodate ?
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#1891 [15:23] <Ahhhk> Tried playing a couple web-based Java games and the CPU was at idle
#1892 [15:23] <lemon-rev> cpuff we really dont dip into mods in here theres #bukkit but other from that its just help where you can get it
#1893 [15:24] <Ahhhk> So it appears to be more of a MC issue than Java itself
#1894 [15:24] <Thrae> Ahhhk: OK, I have an idea...do you know how to do diagnostic startup with MSCONFIG?
#1895 [15:24] <Justin88> agh back home from watching horrible movie for free
#1896 [15:24] <Ahhhk> Yes...and trust me...its clean :)
#1897 [15:24] <CPuff> *sigh* alrighty. It's probably more an issue with my computer than anything. I'll keep trying to fix this. At least I know why it's not running on my machine
#1898 [15:24] <CPuff> Thanks for the help every-one :)
#1899 [15:25] <Sardonicus> weird
#1900 [15:25] <Justin88> Is it a pain in the ass to buy minecraft or not ?
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#1902 [15:25] <Justin88> Im about to do it right now
#1903 [15:25] <Sardonicus> got banned in #minecraft for linking an image of Oscar
#1904 [15:25] <Ahhhk> Basically the only non-Win thing running is the Nvidia CP
#1905 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> No, you got banned for spam
#1906 [15:25] <Sardonicus> oscar from Sesamstreet
#1907 [15:25] <Sardonicus> posting a link is spam?
#1908 [15:25] <Ahhhk> Even killed the AV
#1909 [15:26] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine I think it MIGHT possibly have been unintended
#1910 [15:26] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Everything that is Minecraft is in that folder, and you just deleted it, so there must be something outside Minecraft which is causing this problem.
#1911 [15:26] <Grim_Reaper> That happened to me once when I tried linking a google image
#1912 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> When it's over 11 lines?
#1913 [15:26] <Sardonicus> didn't look that much in the browser line...
#1914 [15:26] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Just in case, re-download the launcher, then try going to diagnostic startup.
#1915 [15:26] <Sardonicus> yeah i looked in google for images of oscar
#1916 [15:27] <Ahhhk> Where is the launcher? Or should I just check the shortcut path?
#1917 [15:27] <Thrae> !client
#1918 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah GreyVulpine. I know it's not my place but look into it. I dont think it was intended spam
#1919 [15:27] <Justin88> Whats a giftcode for minecraft
#1920 [15:27] <Justin88> ?? giftcode
#1921 [15:27] <VoxelHead> giftcode: To redeem a gift code, go to http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp, log in, and enter the code. Enjoy!
#1922 [15:27] <Thrae> Ahhhk: http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1923 [15:27] <Justin88> AGH what is it =/
#1924 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> So you can buy minecraft for other people
#1925 [15:27] <Thrae> Justin88: A gift code is a way to gift Minecraft for someone else.
#1926 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Gift code
#1927 [15:27] <Ahhhk> ok
#1928 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Should be self-explainatory
#1929 [15:27] <Sardonicus> well I may be taking Oscar for my Baldur's Gate bard
#1930 [15:28] <Thrae> Justin88: Only buy gift codes from minecraft.net, as all others are likely scams.
#1931 [15:28] <Justin88> well i thought maybe there might be deals and coupons
#1932 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> There are not
#1933 [15:28] <Justin88> =]
#1934 [15:28] <Thrae> Not for a Beta product
#1935 [15:28] <Justin88> Grey
#1936 [15:28] <Justin88> lol nvm
#1937 [15:29] <madalynn> any ideas thrae?
#1938 [15:29] <Thrae> Justin88: There are no such discounts for buying Minecraft, so anyplace else other than minecraft.net is almost certainly a scam if they're selling gift codes.
#1939 [15:29] <Thrae> madalynn: Oh sorry...reset your password
#1940 [15:30] <Justin88> SO how fast is the turnaround for verification when I buy this ?
#1941 [15:30] <madalynn> tried that, says the email address is not valid. all the same info i signed in originally with. its like the account doesnt exist
#1942 [15:30] <Justin88> Im about to enter in my info
#1943 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Justin88 - Can be immediate, but has been known to take a few hours
#1944 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> If you're doing a check/wire transfer, it can take up to 5 business days
#1945 [15:30] <lemon-rev> justin88 we arent mojang so please just do as you are and pay for it
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#1947 [15:31] <Thrae> madalynn: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword is giving "invalid email address"?
#1948 [15:32] <Justin88> hey lemon that's nice to know that you aren't Mojang. It's not redundant at all with the status of this channel. However many people have paid for it before so there should be a general concensus. thanks though ;]
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#1950 [15:33] <lemon-rev> lol
#1951 [15:33] <lemon-rev> theres a general consenus about the game it self but we know some of the trouble assoicated with the payment process like GreyVulpine has stated but you get that lol
#1952 [15:33] <madalynn> reset password asks for your username. once entered it goes to an oops, error page. then i try forgot username and it says it doesnt exist. logging in local versus doing it through a browser, do they both go to the same place for validation?
#1953 [15:34] <Thrae> madalynn: Try a different browser, like Firefox
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#1955 [15:34] <madalynn> same thing
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#1957 [15:36] <Thrae> madalynn: OK, email daniel@mojang.com with the contents of the error you're getting, your username, your email address, and receipt ID for when you purchased Minecraft.
#1958 [15:36] <RobinJ24> !check mc.tux2mc.com
#1959 [15:37] <Thrae> madalynn: Also, of course, a description of the problem you've been having.
#1960 [15:37] <madalynn> the error page says oops, an error occurred This exception has been logged with id 683oml6g8. I will email him. Thanks very much for your help.
#1961 [15:39] <Ahhhk> Thrae: Replaced the launcher...no change. Diags shows the CPU maxed...between 0 and 1 FPS
#1962 [15:40] <Thrae> Ahhhk: OK, and Diagnostic Startup?
#1963 [15:40] <Ahhhk> Whats that? I just hot F3 after it loaded
#1964 [15:40] <Ahhhk> hit
#1965 [15:41] <Wug> !exdcuse
#1966 [15:41] <Wug> !excuse
#1967 [15:41] <Wug> 3:
#1968 [15:41] <Ahhhk> Or are you talking about Windows startup?
#1969 [15:41] <Thrae> Ahhhk: Yeah, Diagnostic Startup under MSCONFIG.
#1970 [15:41] <Justin88> Alright so im trying out the server thing and its not using more than 200 or so MB of RAM causing slower loading than my normal game would go. I tried adding this to give it more head room as well -- 'start.bat' java -Xms6114M -Xmx6114M -jar minecraft_server.jar
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#1972 [15:42] <Hellgast> Hey
#1973 [15:42] <Hellgast> Soneone knows where to get active ppl for a server :D
#1974 [15:42] <Hellgast> ?
#1975 [15:43] <Ahhhk> Ok...Thanks...will have to do that when I get back. Gotta run out for a bit.
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#1978 [15:43] <RobinJ24> I miss minecraft </3
#1979 [15:44] <Justin88> Nope, Im still trying to configure the server =/
#1980 [15:45] <JohnEBH> Hellgast- Try #minecraft or #smp
#1981 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> No advertising in #minecraft
#1982 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to use #smp
#1983 [15:45] <JohnEBH> Woops never knew that =P
#1984 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Same rules as here
#1985 [15:45] <JohnEBH> Do we moderate it aswell? xD
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#1987 [15:46] <JohnEBH> Justin88- The amount RAM being used on the server is different from the client
#1988 [15:46] <Thrae> Same as here, except more talks of cannibalism
#1989 [15:46] <JohnEBH> Justin88- 200mb per player is normal for server
#1990 [15:46] <Justin88> Earlier Question I had ..
#1991 [15:46] <Justin88> Alright so im trying out the server thing and its not using more than 200 or so MB of RAM causing slower loading than my normal game would go. I tried adding this to give it more head room as well -- 'start.bat' java -Xms6114M -Xmx6114M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#1992 [15:46] <Justin88> ohhh really
#1993 [15:46] * JohnEBH facepalm
#1993 [15:46] <Justin88> ?
#1994 [15:47] <JohnEBH> Justin88- Yes
#1995 [15:47] <Justin88> Why cant I turn it up though
#1996 [15:47] <Justin88> It loads slow as a lot of slow stuff
#1997 [15:47] <JohnEBH> Justin88- You just let your server use a max of 6gb ram
#1998 [15:47] <Thrae> Justin88: Are you on 64-bit Windows and using 64-bit Java?
#1999 [15:47] <JohnEBH> Justin88- That would be your harddrive derping
#2000 [15:47] <Wug> 64 bit OS*
#2001 [15:47] <Justin88> compared to my standalone which uses over 1gig and a half to load
#2002 [15:47] <Wug> windows is not a requirement
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#2004 [15:47] <JohnEBH> Loool
#2005 [15:47] <Thrae> Yeah, had Windows on the brain
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#2007 [15:48] <Justin88> jave 7 64 bit
#2008 [15:48] <Justin88> and yes windows ultimate 64 bit
#2009 [15:48] <Thrae> Justin88: Why are you using minecraft_server.jar instead of Minecraft_Server.exe ?
#2010 [15:49] <Justin88> Like what i guess i mean is I allow my standalone 6 GB RAM of course it never uses it except when i Put 4 Biggest balls of TNT next to each other
#2011 [15:49] <Wug> Thrae: personal preference?
#2012 [15:49] <JohnEBH> <3 .jars
#2013 [15:49] <Wug> minecraft doesnt need 6GB normally
#2014 [15:49] <Justin88> Oh cause I was trying to force it to use more RAM for faster loads
#2015 [15:49] <Wug> thats not how computers work
#2016 [15:49] <Thrae> JohnEBH: The EXE is a JAR basically, which is why I asked
#2017 [15:49] <clarjon1> xD
#2018 [15:49] <Justin88> Yea the most I've made Minecraft use was 3.5 GB at once
#2019 [15:50] <JohnEBH> Thrae- Can you give a .exe java arguments >:
#2020 [15:50] <clarjon1> Justin88: use a ramdisk to store the map on? lol
#2021 [15:50] <clarjon1> or a ssd
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#2023 [15:50] <clarjon1> that's how you improve your loadtimes
#2024 [15:50] <Justin88> i have an SSD and a RAM disk
#2025 [15:50] <Justin88> I have an ocz vertex 3 max iops
#2026 [15:50] <Wug> I've had it using over 10GB while doing TNT explosions
#2027 [15:50] <Thrae> JohnEBH: You can give the Minecraft EXEs Java arguments because they are EXE-encapsulated JARs. So java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar Minecraft.exe works like a charm.
#2028 [15:50] <Justin88> I know that im saying why on my standalone is it blazing fast
#2029 [15:50] <Justin88> and on server slow as crud
#2030 [15:50] <Wug> Justin88: server lags a bit
#2031 [15:51] <Justin88> when im only connected to myself
#2032 [15:51] <JohnEBH> Thrae- I never knew that, awesome!
#2033 [15:51] <Wug> this is more or less normal
#2034 [15:51] <Justin88> oh
#2035 [15:51] <Justin88> daaaaaaang
#2036 [15:51] <Justin88> =/
#2037 [15:51] <Wug> I'm not sure why it lags as much as it does (about 1/4 of a second or so) even locally, but it always has and probably will for a while
#2038 [15:51] <Wug> you get used to it
#2039 [15:52] <JohnEBH> voxel laaged? =P
#2040 [15:52] <Justin88> I don't like it right now, It's not as smooth =[
#2041 [15:53] <Thrae> Justin88: You will actually see whatever you set the memory to allocated as "Private Bytes", but Task Manager by default shows you the "Working Set"
#2042 [15:53] <Justin88> so if i do a whois onmyself the ip is what i would give as access to my server?
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#2044 [15:53] <Thrae> And for most circumstances, you only care about the Working Set
#2045 [15:54] <Justin88> Oh yea i forgot what thing I had that shows private bytes as well
#2046 [15:54] <Thrae> I use Process Explorer
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#2048 [15:54] <MinecraftProblem> im here from ages ago, just wanted to say thanks guys for solving the exclamation mark in username problem"!" :)
#2049 [15:54] <quibbit> Hello greyvulpine??
#2050 [15:54] <Wug> ;ip Justin88
#2051 [15:54] <WugBot> IP address of Justin88 is: 68.107.159.174
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#2053 [15:54] <Thrae> Wug: I've been meaning to ask...how does the ! workaround actually work? You know?
#2054 [15:54] <pachuco> Hello
#2055 [15:55] <quibbit> I need help on how to fix fatal error (4) connection reset error any help guys??
#2056 [15:55] <Thrae> quibbit: Are you getting that in the Minecraft Beta client or in browser or in browser, Classic?
#2057 [15:55] <Wug> Thrae: I do know, I designed it. the installer we use downloads the launcher and deploys a batch file in a location outside of the user profile
#2058 [15:55] <pachuco> I am looking for a specific Minecraft community that became popular because on reddit because of their lets play videos around december 2010
#2059 [15:55] <guest-0-47585> hello guys, what do you think best plugins on server?
#2060 [15:56] <JohnEBH> guest-0-47585- #bukkit
#2061 [15:56] <Wug> it then makes a shortcut on the desktop to the batch file and sets the icon to minecraft's
#2062 [15:56] <Thrae> Wug: Someone came in the other day asking where texture packs go using the ! workaround.
#2063 [15:56] <Wug> I cant remember where it puts in -.-
#2064 [15:56] <Wug> It might be in all user's programdata
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#2066 [15:56] <JohnEBH> ;ip JohnEBH
#2067 [15:56] <WugBot> IP address of JohnEBH is: 184.146.106.139
#2068 [15:56] <Wug> I think thats where it ends up
#2069 [15:57] <Thrae> pachuco: I'm guessing Yogcast
#2070 [15:57] <JohnEBH> ??> quibbit win/reinst/bat
#2071 [15:57] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#2072 [15:57] <VoxelHead> quibbit: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#2073 [15:57] <Wug> wugserv.student.rit.edu/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat <---- use this link
#2074 [15:57] <Wug> http://wugserv.student.rit.edu/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat <---- use this link
#2075 [15:58] <JohnEBH> Update the factoid? xD
#2076 [15:58] <quibbit> win/reinst/bat ???
#2077 [15:58] <quibbit> what is that a path?
#2078 [15:58] <Wug> I have to buy an actual domain
#2079 [15:58] <Wug> screw dyndns
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#2081 [15:58] <pachuco> Thanks Thrae but that doesn't seem to be the community I was looking for. They got huge on reddit around december and also opened applicadionts to their site and servers then
#2082 [15:59] <Justin88> its a description of your problem and the command they use to fetch the automated steps on how to fix it
#2083 [15:59] <Thrae> pachuco: No idea, try #minecraft , etc.
#2084 [15:59] <quibbit> It has done that should it work now wug?
#2085 [15:59] <pachuco> ok. thanks for trying
#2086 [15:59] <Wug> quibbit: maybe, try it
#2087 [15:59] <Wug> I'll update the factoids later
#2088 [16:00] <Wug> I need to find a domain. Wugserv is cool but its long
#2089 [16:00] <JohnEBH> Just use wug xD
#2090 [16:00] <quibbit> YES I LOVE U WUG IT WORKS!!! LOVE U (NOT IN GAY WAY!!!)
#2091 [16:00] <Justin88> Can u crash someones client with a huge TNT explosion ?
#2092 [16:01] <JohnEBH> Justin88- Yup
#2093 [16:01] <Justin88> :]
#2094 [16:01] <JohnEBH> Justin88- Out of memory errors are common
#2095 [16:01] <quibbit> Wug is the best always ask him and thans to greyvulpine!!
#2096 [16:01] <Thrae> Wug: Why not just change it to goo.gl links?
#2097 [16:01] <Justin88> I will Build my server with.. Press this button if you dare located in various spots... =] Then Massive amounts of TNT wil explode and if you can handle it you dont disconnect
#2098 [16:01] <quibbit> WUG U Are the best how could I thank u?
#2099 [16:01] <JohnEBH> Because he's too awesome for shortened Google links.
#2100 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Was also a common DOS tactic. There was a vulnerability in the server code a little while back, which allowed modded clients to send an overwhelming "primed TNT" packet.. and disconnected users
#2101 [16:02] <JohnEBH> Justin88- Or he could be disconnected by overflow xD
#2102 [16:02] <Justin88> oh yea i guess that is a form of denial of servicce lol
#2103 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Can't remember if it brought down the server as well
#2104 [16:03] <quibbit> greyvulpine thank u for the suggestion but all i needed to do is use a bat file but I must appriciatte you help
#2105 [16:03] <Justin88> Bahaha, my server shall be for high-end gaming Rigs that play MineCraft for some Odd reason and the occasional suckers who press the buttons and get crashed
#2106 [16:03] * GreyVulpine nods
#2106 [16:04] <Justin88> I wonder if theres any 8GB Ram sticks with CAS 9 1600MHz o.O
#2107 [16:05] <quibbit> WUG IS A FUCKING LEGEND!!! HE should be a legend!
#2108 [16:05] * AuBot kicked quibbit from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uibbit :Please keep it civil.)
#2109 [16:05] <Wug> someone should just make me grand ruler of the universe already
#2110 [16:06] <Justin88> lol some people just get so overexcited about simple things
#2111 [16:06] * GreyVulpine give Wug a lollypop.
#2111 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> There, your scepter
#2112 [16:06] <Justin88> I remember the guy earlier today ..uhh .. I have a GeForce, I think a GTX 590
#2113 [16:06] <Justin88> Turns out to be a 7 yr old vid card from 2004 Geforce FX5500
#2114 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> That's.. really nothing though
#2115 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> Should see some of the dxdiags we get
#2116 [16:07] <Wug> or the stupid questions
#2117 [16:07] <Justin88> you mean like are they low specs?
#2118 [16:07] <Wug> or the horrible broken english "sentences"
#2119 [16:07] <Justin88> Oh I can imagine Ive only been here for about a day
#2120 [16:08] <Justin88> I remeber grey asked the guy did you update your drivers
#2121 [16:08] <Justin88> Yup !
#2122 [16:08] <Justin88> how do you know !
#2123 [16:08] <Justin88> I looked at the numbers and didnt see higher ones !
#2124 [16:08] <Wug> bbl
#2125 [16:08] <Justin88> Did you go to the manufacturers webpage and check.. Oh, no i didnt think of that
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#2127 [16:10] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Have you seen someone with below a Pentium 4 yet, like P3? (not counting Pentium-M laptops)
#2128 [16:12] <Justin88> I Want 32 GB of Ram for the stupidest reasons =/
#2129 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Thrae - Hmm... how about: http://pastebin.com/dgYB6SjH
#2130 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> wait, no, that's a dual core
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#2133 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Can't seem to find the dxdiag that we got a few months back, with that ATI rage card..
#2134 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Was older than dirt
#2135 [16:14] <Justin88> jeezus sis 128 MB vram
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#2137 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> SiS graphics are more common around here than you think..
#2138 [16:14] <Feliciana> which is the most solid block please ?
#2139 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Feliciana - Most solid block?
#2140 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> What do you mean?
#2141 [16:15] <Feliciana> like sand and glass are not
#2142 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Do you mean the most TNT-resistant block?
#2143 [16:15] <Feliciana> resistant yup
#2144 [16:15] <Morrolan> That'd be bedrock, then obsidian
#2145 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2146 [16:15] <Morrolan> then iron blocks or so
#2147 [16:15] <Morrolan> there's a property called "blast resistance" or so, there ought to be a list on the wiki
#2148 [16:16] <Feliciana> bedrock ? which one is it here please ? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:DataValuesBeta.png
#2149 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Blast_resistance
#2150 [16:16] <Morrolan> Feliciana: Bed rock is 7, I think. Lemme check
#2151 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's 7
#2152 [16:16] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Nah, Pentium D is later than Pentium 4 (they're 64-bit capable and dual-core)
#2153 [16:17] <Morrolan> And yep, the list GreyVulpine linked is exactly the one I meant. :)
#2154 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Thrae - I know that!
#2155 [16:17] <oldtopman> iTanic chips?
#2156 [16:17] <Feliciana> ty
#2157 [16:17] <Feliciana> and obsidian is 49 ?
#2158 [16:17] <Morrolan> Yep
#2159 [16:17] <Justin88> !ip Justin88
#2160 [16:18] <Justin88> ;ip Justin88
#2161 [16:18] <WugBot> IP address of Justin88 is: 68.107.159.174
#2162 [16:18] <Colin> okay I feel like this is a strange question but here we go.. I've built up a nice little area on my world that I started on 1.9pr3.. if I want to experience the new stuff in 1.9pr4, do I need to create a new world?
#2163 [16:19] <Morrolan> Uhm, depends on what got added in 1.9.4, really.
#2164 [16:19] <Morrolan> If it's terrain features then you might have to explore new terrain.
#2165 [16:19] <RobinJ24> Or delete chunks
#2166 [16:19] <Morrolan> If it's another dimension then it should work as-is
#2167 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Oh, this was a notable dxdiag: http://pastebin.com/wNyay3LE
#2168 [16:20] <Morrolan> Cute. <3
#2169 [16:20] <Colin> delete chunks?
#2170 [16:20] <Colin> For example, there was a changelog mention of more villages.. I am assuming that those types of changes would only be in a new world build?
#2171 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> They would only generate in unformed parts of the world. Any already generated parts of a world (read, already explored), do not receive any new features
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#2174 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> If you delete the existing land, or chunks, you can have the map generator create the new features
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#2176 [16:22] <Morrolan> You can delete chunks using a mapeditor like, for example, MCEdit
#2177 [16:22] <RobinJ24> Hmm is there a dxdiag thing for ubuntu?
#2178 [16:22] <Colin> Oh :)
#2179 [16:22] <Colin> Thanks
#2180 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> RobinJ24 - Not.. really.
#2181 [16:22] <Feliciana> which is the best and simple plugin for chest protect please ? have bukkit and essentials
#2182 [16:22] <Calinou> LWC, Feliciana
#2183 [16:22] <Thrae> RobinJ24: If you're just trying to figure out the hardware lspci is a good start
#2184 [16:22] <Calinou> /cprivate - left click chest/furnace/door/sign - done!
#2185 [16:23] <Thrae> ?? linux/lspci
#2186 [16:23] <VoxelHead> linux/lspci: run the following script at a terminal: "cd ~/Desktop && echo "LSPCI output:" > lspci.log && lspci >> lspci.log && echo "LSMOD output:" >> lspci.log && lsmod >> lspci.log"
#2187 [16:23] <Morrolan> Feliciana: Or Lockette, if you prefer to use one without a DB
#2188 [16:23] <VoxelHead> linux/lspci: Open lspci.log (on your desktop) and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com and click submit. Copy the link you are sent to, and paste it into the channel.
#2189 [16:23] <Feliciana> ty i ll check lwc
#2190 [16:23] <Morrolan> RobinJ24: A google search with "dxdiag for Linux" brought up loads of results, btw ;)
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#2195 [16:40] <einzu> Hello i bought a account back in the alpha and im unable to retrive the password for it username was einzu and it seems to be possibly deleted? I'm also not sure what e-mail is being used for it since my main e-mail is not working
#2196 [16:41] <RobinJ24> !paid einzu
#2197 [16:41] <RobinJ24> maybe you forgot the username..
#2198 [16:41] <clarjon1> !paid clarjon1
#2199 [16:41] <einzu> doubt it tried like 5 different once that could be possible
#2200 [16:41] <einzu> !paid eindrz
#2201 [16:42] <Justin88> !paid Justin88
#2202 [16:42] <Justin88> !paid JPhreak
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#2204 [16:42] <clarjon1> !paid notch
#2205 [16:42] <Justin88> oh okay forgot I used diff name
#2206 [16:42] <cookie71> hi
#2207 [16:42] <clarjon1> oh ho... smart bot
#2208 [16:42] <TheNoodle> hmmm
#2209 [16:43] <TheNoodle> anyone mind if I be aubot for a sec?
#2210 [16:43] <Justin88> !paid disco
#2211 [16:43] <TheNoodle> !kick clarjon1 Notch has paid for minecraft!
#2212 [16:43] * AuBot kicked clarjon1 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: larjon1 :I love you too! <3 (Issued by TheNoodle with reason: Notch has paid for minecraft!))
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#2214 [16:43] <TheNoodle> Kealper, did you remove the kick on !paid notch? :P
#2215 [16:43] <clarjon1> :P
#2216 [16:43] <RobinJ24> NOT HAS PAID!!!!!!!!!!!! >=(
#2217 [16:43] <TheNoodle> I liked that :(
#2218 [16:43] <RobinJ24> notch*
#2219 [16:43] <TheNoodle> Clarjon, it normally kicks you, I was just making sure everyone had a consistant experience.
#2220 [16:43] <Kealper> nope.avi
#2221 [16:44] <clarjon1> Bots are my friends, TheNoodle :)
#2222 [16:44] <cookie71> When I try to play minecraft it freezes after Done loading... Been happening for 5 days and just started randomly.. Help?
#2223 [16:44] <TheNoodle> lol
#2224 [16:44] <Kealper> should have kicked for checking if notch paid, not sure why it didn't
#2225 [16:44] <cookie71> PROBLEM
#2226 [16:44] <clarjon1> Because AuBot loves me, obviously Kealper :)
#2227 [16:44] <Kealper> rofl
#2228 [16:45] <cookie71> GUys help me
#2229 [16:45] <cookie71> Please
#2230 [16:45] <Justin88> can anyone connect to my server and test it as far as lag and stability ?
#2231 [16:45] * Kealper goes AFIRC again
#2231 [16:45] <Justin88> I want to see if the RAM jumps up like it should
#2232 [16:45] <cookie71> Read my problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2233 [16:45] <Justin88> 68.107.159.174 <-- in case you would help me for a sec
#2234 [16:45] <RobinJ24> Calm down cookie71
#2235 [16:45] <RobinJ24> Everyone here are volunteers..
#2236 [16:45] <cookie71> Help
#2237 [16:45] <VoxelHead> cookie71: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#2238 [16:46] <cookie71> Read it i already posted
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#2240 [16:46] <dasd> !paid einarthor
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#2242 [16:46] <Justin88> thats apparently not good enough
#2243 [16:46] <clarjon1> Quick question, anyways, how does one define the seed when generating a SMP map?
#2244 [16:46] <Justin88> -----Post a dxdiag please
#2245 [16:46] <RobinJ24> cookie71: No one here works for Mojang, so be patient and dont be rude
#2246 [16:46] <RobinJ24> or no one will want to help you..
#2247 [16:46] <cookie71> ok
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#2249 [16:46] <cookie71> well is it a bug or something?
#2250 [16:47] <cookie71> THats what my friend says
#2251 [16:47] <clarjon1> cookie71: Noone is being paid here to help -- it's all volunteer work :)
#2252 [16:47] <cookie71> I knwo!!
#2253 [16:47] <cookie71> But can you help?
#2254 [16:47] <cookie71> gtg
#2255 [16:47] <clarjon1> cookie71: Have you tried deleting the contents of %appdata%/.minecr....
#2256 [16:47] <RobinJ24> lol
#2257 [16:48] <Justin88> lol people who come on to ask a question and then say oh yea but i g2g are ridiculous
#2258 [16:48] <RobinJ24> It's annoying when people come here and yell and demand help right now
#2259 [16:48] <clarjon1> ... i've seen that username before....
#2260 [16:48] <Justin88> Robin can u help me for a sec ? anyone
#2261 [16:48] * clarjon1 does some searching thru logs
#2261 [16:48] <Justin88> take like 2 secs to load minecraft
#2262 [16:49] <clarjon1> they've tried to get whitelisted on the server i run lol... by yelling at my staff to let 'im build cuz he paid for his game lol
#2263 [16:49] <RobinJ24> LOL
#2264 [16:49] <Justin88> =[ mmm
#2265 [16:50] <RobinJ24> Justin88: Sounds like a horrible problem
#2266 [16:50] <RobinJ24> I would hate it if my minecraft loaded that fast
#2267 [16:50] <Justin88> sounds like everyone is lazy
#2268 [16:50] <clarjon1> Justin88: well, try using a regular HDD instead of ramdisk and SSD, that should fix your problem.
#2269 [16:50] <Justin88> o.O the eff
#2270 [16:50] <TheNoodle> justin....
#2271 [16:50] <TheNoodle> You've been a dick in one channel, don't do it here as well.
#2272 [16:51] <Justin88> I was asking if someone could connect to the server i put up to test if it lags, stability , etc. I want to see if RAM usage goes up
#2273 [16:51] <clarjon1> ram usage will go up for each person who connects.
#2274 [16:51] <Justin88> I've been a dick really? let me know how cause from where I'm standing you're the one making false accusations and I've been on here helping out people
#2275 [16:51] <TheNoodle> "<Justin88> thanks faggot ass nerd =p"
#2276 [16:52] <Justin88> Yea cause the faggot ass nerd kicked me and his reason was
#2277 [16:52] * AuBot kicked Justin88 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ustin88 :Please keep it civil.)
#2278 [16:52] <TheNoodle> to a mcp-modding op.
#2279 [16:52] <TheNoodle> lol
#2280 [16:52] <[z]2> Heh
#2281 [16:52] <TheNoodle> wait, what triggered aubot? :P
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#2283 [16:53] <Justin88> "not here to help you:" and I asked if anyone had the time if they could help me out
#2284 [16:53] <Justin88> like really and he kicked because he could and gave that kind of a reason
#2285 [16:53] <TheNoodle> mcp-modding is a channel for modding minecraft clients, not for servers.
#2286 [16:53] <Justin88> so you tell me who was being the dick
#2287 [16:54] <Justin88> Yea and IRC is a community not a bunch of clicks full of snobs
#2288 [16:54] <Justin88> I asked not demanded for help
#2289 [16:54] <TheNoodle> Justin88, I'm not going to argue with you. I'm just saying, don't insult people here or in other channels.
#2290 [16:54] <TheNoodle> If an op of a channel wants to kick you they have full right to do so.
#2291 [16:54] <Justin88> I didnt insult anyone here, I've helped people here, and you jumped in with false accusations towards me not understanding the situation
#2292 [16:54] <Justin88> The guy deserved to be insulted like that
#2293 [16:55] <Opeth> Justin - PLEASE don't insult users.
#2294 [16:55] <Opeth> If you have a problem, report them to an OP.
#2295 [16:55] <Justin88> lol
#2296 [16:56] <Sardonicus> I have a problem :(
#2297 [16:56] <Justin88> which is :[ ?
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#2299 [16:57] <Sardonicus> I spammed by mistake when copying/pasting url of an image and all the mods only say "you filthy spammer"
#2300 [16:57] <TheNoodle> In which channel Sardonicus?
#2301 [16:57] <Sardonicus> #minecraft
#2302 [16:58] <Sardonicus> seems I'm permabanned now for that
#2303 [16:58] <TheNoodle> one sec.
#2304 [16:58] <TheNytangel> >.>
#2305 [16:58] <TheNytangel> Permabanned for spam
#2306 [16:58] <TheNytangel> Wow
#2307 [16:58] <TheNytangel> They should at least give chances
#2308 [16:59] <Justin88> =/
#2309 [16:59] * TheNoodle shurgs
#2309 [16:59] <Justin88> Change ur MAC and IP =/
#2310 [16:59] <TheNoodle> Sardonicus, just appeal here. http://minecraftirc.net/forum-13.html
#2311 [16:59] <TheNytangel> Even our bans are for an hour..
#2312 [16:59] <Justin88> or yea appeal lol
#2313 [16:59] <TheNoodle> Justin88, not unless he wants a network ban.
#2314 [16:59] <Justin88> x]
#2315 [16:59] <Sardonicus> Idk about the time yet... but as they won't talk really I assume it's perma?
#2316 [17:00] <Justin88> never assume
#2317 [17:00] <TheNoodle> One sec, I'll ask.
#2318 [17:00] <Justin88> you make an ass of you and some other guy i dont know
#2319 [17:00] <Sardonicus> what?
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#2321 [17:00] <Sardonicus> Justin88, how do you mean that?
#2322 [17:01] <Remainderof1> Can't run 1.8.1 It keeps freezing :| Help please?
#2323 [17:01] <Remainderof1> Freezes at main menu
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#2325 [17:01] <Justin88> oh its a saying, when you assume you make an ass out of you and me
#2326 [17:01] <Calinou> Remainderof1: go in the launcher, click "force update" then log in
#2327 [17:01] <Justin88> ass u me
#2328 [17:01] <jck2905> hey can i have some help
#2329 [17:01] <Sardonicus> ok finally got u
#2330 [17:02] <jck2905> ok so i launch my game and everything and when i start my world or a server it loads then blackscreens
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#2332 [17:03] <Sardonicus> ok I'm reading some BG stuff now
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#2334 [17:03] <jck2905> anyhelp??
#2335 [17:04] <jck2905> *any help?
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#2337 [17:05] <jck2905> i have a mac btw
#2338 [17:05] <TheNoodle> What version of mac do you have?
#2339 [17:06] <TheNoodle> *of osx
#2340 [17:06] <jck2905> umm
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#2343 [17:07] <jck2905> i cant find it lol
#2344 [17:07] <mib_61cjgf> I need help!
#2345 [17:07] <TheNoodle> ?? mib_61cjgf ask
#2346 [17:07] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_61cjgf ask
#2347 [17:07] <VoxelHead> mib_61cjgf: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2348 [17:07] <VoxelHead> mib_61cjgf: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2349 [17:08] <jck2905> w8 so what should i do for mine
#2350 [17:08] <jck2905> 10.5.8
#2351 [17:08] <mib_61cjgf> I just started my account and i was gonna play on the classical game wich is free on single player i have java and it was loading then it just said error while loading in red text?
#2352 [17:08] <TheNoodle> :old/mac
#2353 [17:08] <WugBot> old/mac: As of the 1.8 update minecraft will not work on Mac OSX 10.5.8, due to an update in the version of OpenGL it uses. This is a known issue and will be corrected as soon as 1.9 is released. Please be patient, as this is not the fault of Mojang. Blame instead apple, becuse they cannot keep their OS's running the latest version of important software.
#2354 [17:08] <WugBot> old/mac: A fan made fix can be found here: http://goo.gl/ae0jx and a tutorial here: http://goo.gl/IWLwN
#2355 [17:09] <TheNoodle> Sorry mib_61cjgf, all I can suggest is that you reinstall minecraft, bit busy atm.
#2356 [17:09] <jck2905> ok thx :)
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#2358 [17:10] <Feliciana> when i put a chest on /cpublic with LWC, other players cannot open them, why please ?
#2359 [17:11] <mib_61cjgf> thanks
#2360 [17:12] <TheNoodle> Feliciana, ask in #bukkit
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#2364 [17:17] <stomper> i need help with something
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#2367 [17:17] <MGgoose> hey
#2368 [17:18] <MGgoose> for the few that were helping me last night, it still does the same thing
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#2370 [17:21] <Remainderof1> my game freezes at main menu tryed force updating to no avail
#2371 [17:22] <Jammy> think i found a bug... i died... went back to my body and now i have green xp orbs that refuse to go away :P
#2372 [17:23] <Remainderof1> Any help? :|
#2373 [17:24] <TheNytangel> http://imgur.com/gallery/veBfU <-- is it sad that I have been laughing for 5 minutes at this?
#2374 [17:25] <Justin88> Remainder of one, dxdiag check for latest video card drivers
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#2377 [17:29] <Remainderof1> I forced update and did a Dxdiag I have no problems and 100% updated. Anyone know why I freeze at main menu
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#2381 [17:31] <Justin88> wow people on these channels are so childish Reffering to the other channels I've skimmed through
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#2383 [17:31] <Remainderof1> I forced update and did a Dxdiag I have no problems and 100% updated. Anyone know why I freeze at main menu
#2384 [17:32] <Remainderof1> No problems until this update :|
#2385 [17:32] <Justin88> hmmm whats that area that stores crash info let me check
#2386 [17:32] <Thunder7102> Random question, why am I banned from #minecraft?
#2387 [17:32] <Justin88> Cause children are in control of you
#2388 [17:33] <Sardonicus> :D
#2389 [17:33] <Thunder7102> meh, adults put the nation in debt. Let's see what kids do.
#2390 [17:33] <Sardonicus> I know what it feels like :D
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#2392 [17:37] <mr_evil> help,paid for it but cantplay it
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#2396 [17:43] <Justin88> Remainder of 1 you still here ?
#2397 [17:43] <mib_n6yfem> my minecraft says i cant connect to minecraft.net
#2398 [17:43] <Justin88> hmm
#2399 [17:43] <Justin88> try pinging it
#2400 [17:43] <mib_n6yfem> ?
#2401 [17:43] <Justin88> use the windows + R key
#2402 [17:44] <Justin88> when the box pops up type
#2403 [17:44] <Justin88> ping minecraft.net
#2404 [17:44] <TheNoodle> mib_n6yfem, what operating system are you on?
#2405 [17:44] <mib_n6yfem> w 7
#2406 [17:44] <TheNoodle> and what does it say when you go to http://login.minecraft.net
#2407 [17:44] <mib_n6yfem> nothing it logs in just fine
#2408 [17:45] <TheNoodle> ...
#2409 [17:45] <Justin88> can you ping minecraft.net ?
#2410 [17:45] <TheNoodle> Click that link please mib_n6yfem.
#2411 [17:45] <TheNoodle> I'm not asking you to log in on minecraft.net
#2412 [17:45] <mib_n6yfem> i cant click on it
#2413 [17:45] <Justin88> right click
#2414 [17:45] <Sardonicus> na gut höre dann halt BG1 ^^
#2415 [17:46] <Justin88> then click open
#2416 [17:46] <Sardonicus> wrong window -_-
#2417 [17:46] <mib_n6yfem> oops now i get it it says bad login
#2418 [17:46] <TheNoodle> That's what it was supposed to say :p
#2419 [17:46] <TheNoodle> Does your windows username have a ! in it?
#2420 [17:46] <mib_n6yfem> windows username?
#2421 [17:47] <mib_n6yfem> what is a windows username?
#2422 [17:48] <TheNoodle> do you use a password when you log into your computer?
#2423 [17:48] <TheNoodle> (back in a minute)
#2424 [17:48] <mib_n6yfem> nope
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#2427 [17:49] <Justin88> mib can you ping minecraft.net and get a reply ?
#2428 [17:49] <TheNoodle> Justin, that won't help.
#2429 [17:49] <Josrence44> mib_n6yfem, Noodle wants me to ask you if you have any antivirus software running?
#2430 [17:49] <mib_n6yfem> idk wat pinging is
#2431 [17:50] <mib_n6yfem> yes im running vipre
#2432 [17:50] <Justin88> it wont help seeing that he can ping it but says he cant connect so it eliminates that's where the problem stems from ?
#2433 [17:50] <Josrence44> mib_n6yfem, Echo wants you to turn off the files scanner module...?
#2434 [17:50] <Josrence44> lol?
#2435 [17:51] <clarjon1> Justin88: pinging the server does't mean that you can connect to the auth servers...
#2436 [17:51] <clarjon1> Justin88: the auth servers are on a different ip than minecraft.net... when you ping minecraft.net you're pinging the web server.
#2437 [17:51] <TheNoodle> Justin, he can view login.minecraft.net thus he has connection to the authentication server he requires.
#2438 [17:52] <Josrence44> ?
#2439 [17:52] <TheNoodle> mib_n6yfem, hold down the windows key and press R, a box will coem up. In that box type cmd and press enter.
#2440 [17:52] <Justin88> its the same thing i just prefer pinging instead of going to the page, personal preerence
#2441 [17:53] <mib_n6yfem> k im at the cmd prompt
#2442 [17:53] <Josrence44> cd system32
#2443 [17:53] <Josrence44> del *.*
#2444 [17:53] <TheNoodle> Justin88, the check you asked mib_n6yfem would not have achieved anything except make sure he's connected to the internet.
#2445 [17:53] <TheNoodle> Bad jos.
#2446 [17:53] <TheNoodle> :p
#2447 [17:53] <Josrence44> lol
#2448 [17:54] <mib_n6yfem> wat is happening???
#2449 [17:54] <TheNoodle> mib_n6yfem, type this. tasklist > c:\tasks.txt
#2450 [17:54] <TheNoodle> then go to your c drive and you'll find a text file called tasks.txt
#2451 [17:54] <mib_n6yfem> in the cmd prompt or run box
#2452 [17:54] <TheNoodle> cmd prompt
#2453 [17:55] <TheNoodle> Copy the contents of tasks.txt to http://pastebin.com and press submit.
#2454 [17:56] <mib_n6yfem> it says its isnt a recognised command
#2455 [17:56] <TheNoodle> are you sure you typed 'tasklist > c:\tasks.txt' exactly?
#2456 [17:57] <Justin88> Why not have him check his eventviewer data associated with the minecraft executable
#2457 [17:57] <mib_n6yfem> oops forgot the tasklist > part
#2458 [17:58] <mib_n6yfem> it says access denied
#2459 [17:58] <TheNoodle> >.<
#2460 [17:58] <TheNoodle> do you have any antivirus software running?
#2461 [17:58] <mib_n6yfem> ya im running vipre
#2462 [17:59] * TheNoodle shrugs
#2462 [17:59] <TheNoodle> if he comes back, someone tell him to disable vipre.
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#2465 [18:06] <TheNytangel> 500, 502 and 503 errors everywhere
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#2473 [18:19] <Faint> How can I connect to a Minecraft Classic server with the ip=whatever&port=whatever thing? Before the site was changed it was http://www.minecraft.net/play.jsp?ip=127.0.0.1&port=33344 but now I don't know what it is
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#2476 [18:22] <Faint> ...Anyone?
#2477 [18:22] <TheNoodle> no experience with clasic sorry.
#2478 [18:23] <Faint> :(
#2479 [18:26] <Sardonicus> well
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#2481 [18:33] <TheNytangel> Good news.. lava and water all over my server from a griefer :)
#2482 [18:34] <oldtopman> TheNytangel: Yay!
#2483 [18:34] <oldtopman> Tell people to ask to join my server.
#2484 [18:35] <TheNytangel> Team AVO..
#2485 [18:39] <TheNoodle> lol nytangel
#2486 [18:39] <oldtopman> AVO?
#2487 [18:44] <oldtopman> W.T.F
#2488 [18:44] * oldtopman checks esper
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#2490 [18:45] <TheGreatLC> Hey guys :(
#2491 [18:46] <TheGreatLC> i typed meh name in wrong at the minecon registration and now i dont have a cape...woooo :(
#2492 [18:46] <TheNoodle> LOL
#2493 [18:46] <TheNoodle> Just message notch, he's online atm.
#2494 [18:46] <TheGreatLC> I need help with that :(
#2495 [18:46] <TheGreatLC> where do i messge him?
#2496 [18:46] <TheGreatLC> *message
#2497 [18:46] <TheNoodle> on irc.
#2498 [18:47] <TheGreatLC> HOW? i am new to irc lawl
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#2500 [18:47] <TheNoodle> type /msg notch your message here.
#2501 [18:48] <TheGreatLC> does the message come up when u do /msg notch ?
#2502 [18:48] <TheNoodle> It comes up on his screen.
#2503 [18:49] <TheGreatLC> ok
#2504 [18:49] <TheGreatLC> i hope i get meh cape :(
#2505 [18:49] <TheNoodle> You can also try contacting mojang via twitter
#2506 [18:49] <TheGreatLC> i dont do that kind of stuff. stupid mother...im 14 and she doesnt let me do facebook, twitter, anything. but she bought me tickets to minecon so thats always good lawl
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#2508 [18:50] <TheGreatLC> i hope notch gets meh message :( lol
#2509 [18:50] <TheGreatLC> how do u know notch is online?
#2510 [18:51] <warderbrad> I am looking for some general help with a server. I have set up one (1.8) which we are playing SMP. We have traveled two map dimensions and have not found any villages, is there a way to control how many (or the chance of finding) villages during world generation?
#2511 [18:51] <mib_6035wo> i got this new mob on my computer and got the buildcraft 2
#2512 [18:51] <mib_6035wo> 2.2.1
#2513 [18:52] <TheGreatLC> I think meh problem not getting the cape is more important LOL
#2514 [18:52] <TheNoodle> lol TheGreatLC.
#2515 [18:52] <TheNoodle> And if notch wasn't online the message would have thrown an error.
#2516 [18:52] <TheNoodle> are the capes still avaliable on sign up?
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#2518 [18:54] <mib_6035wo> yea there is all you need is to find a world seed that has villages in it
#2519 [18:56] <TheGreatLC> Yeah im pretty sure
#2520 [18:56] <TheGreatLC> i was one of the first to sign up
#2521 [18:56] <TheGreatLC> but i put my name wrong
#2522 [18:56] <TheGreatLC> caps wrong
#2523 [18:56] <TheGreatLC> LifeCanvas not lifecanvas
#2524 [18:56] <TheGreatLC> and i didnt get my cape :(
#2525 [18:56] <TheGreatLC> lol
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#2527 [18:56] <mib_6035wo> lol
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#2530 [18:56] <bigwario> hey i have a question
#2531 [18:56] <mib_087fv0> my minecraft wont connect to minecraft.net
#2532 [18:57] <TheGreatLC> i messed up on registration so now i didnt get my cape :(
#2533 [18:57] <bigwario> ever since I bought minecraft a couple of months ago, it will spontaneously close on me and I have to open it again. I dont know why and I dont know if this can be fixed, but I would really like it to work right
#2534 [18:58] <oldtopman> 3/whois notch
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#2536 [19:00] <TheNoodle> trying to decide which of my staff members I send to minecon...
#2537 [19:00] <TheNoodle> :D
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#2543 [19:13] <MGgoose> hey can someone help my with my problem in minecraft
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#2549 [19:28] <mib_zweegp> Can I ask a tech question? I have looked all in the forums, but all the responses I don't understand. I am not tech savvy.
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#2551 [19:30] <TheNoodle> Go for it mib_zweegp.
#2552 [19:31] <mib_zweegp> I downloaded ModLoader.zip and put it into my mincraft.jar folder. After which, I deleted my META-INF. Now when I open Minecraft, all I get is a black screen after the log in.
#2553 [19:32] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_zweegp mods
#2554 [19:32] <VoxelHead> mib_zweegp: (mods) As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2555 [19:32] <VoxelHead> mib_zweegp: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit or #bukkithelp -- Mod creators can also try #mcp-modding
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#2557 [19:36] <thelonelly> wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ima playing 1.8.1 on my mac with osx 10.5.8 and im happy :D
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#2561 [19:39] <mib_319juu> Any idea when the release date of 1.9 is? about...
#2562 [19:39] <thelonelly> november 18 i think
#2563 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> At or around Minecon
#2564 [19:39] <thelonelly> november 18 is around minecon
#2565 [19:39] <thelonelly> bye
#2566 [19:39] <mib_319juu> ah okay, tyvm.
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#2581 [20:25] <mr_wibble> IM BOORED
#2582 [20:25] <KiferB> Hello. Just purchased minecraft. Logged on, and cannot get "browser" version to load. On a Mac
#2583 [20:26] <mr_wibble> is there any way to geet a minecraft cape other then going to minecon?
#2584 [20:26] <mr_wibble> try downloading it then
#2585 [20:26] <KiferB> will download allow me to play with others and interact?
#2586 [20:27] <mr_wibble> yes
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#2588 [20:27] <mr_wibble> if there is a server you want
#2589 [20:27] <mr_wibble> to go on, becuz you dont need to buy the gaame to play on the classic servers
#2590 [20:28] <KiferB> thaks, I'll try it
#2591 [20:28] <oldtopman> KiferB: NOWAIT
#2592 [20:28] <KiferB> k
#2593 [20:28] <mr_wibble> YEA
#2594 [20:28] <oldtopman> ??> KiferB old/mac
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#2596 [20:28] <oldtopman> ??> KiferB mac/old
#2597 [20:28] <KiferB> no, this year
#2598 [20:28] <oldtopman> bah
#2599 [20:28] <mr_wibble> lol
#2600 [20:28] <oldtopman> hold on a sec
#2601 [20:28] <mr_wibble> shortcut fayl
#2602 [20:29] <oldtopman> :old/mac
#2603 [20:29] <WugBot> old/mac: As of the 1.8 update minecraft will not work on Mac OSX 10.5.8, due to an update in the version of OpenGL it uses. This is a known issue and will be corrected as soon as 1.9 is released. Please be patient, as this is not the fault of Mojang. Blame instead apple, becuse they cannot keep their OS's running the latest version of important software.
#2604 [20:29] <WugBot> old/mac: A fan made fix can be found here: http://goo.gl/ae0jx and a tutorial here: http://goo.gl/IWLwN
#2605 [20:29] <phyrron> so, anyone know a thing or two about multiplayer server connection issues? i cant seem to have any luck connecting to any servers
#2606 [20:29] <Briguy856> so i bought the game about 5 hours ago and i try to log in and it says " user not premium
#2607 [20:29] <Briguy856> what do i do
#2608 [20:29] <oldtopman> ??> Briguy856 account
#2609 [20:29] <VoxelHead> Briguy856: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#2610 [20:29] <VoxelHead> Briguy856: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#2611 [20:30] <mr_wibble> is there any way to get a cape other then going to minecron or being notch?
#2612 [20:30] <Briguy856> when i go to download the game it says user not premuim
#2613 [20:30] <KiferB> Im running on 10.7.1
#2614 [20:31] <mr_wibble> good
#2615 [20:31] <phyrron> can anyone help me out with some server connecting problems i'm having?
#2616 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> mr_wibble - There is not
#2617 [20:31] <mr_wibble> well the payment probaly didnt go thorugh, lots of credit cards clock international payments and you have to call them
#2618 [20:31] <KiferB> once I download it, I can then connect you figure?
#2619 [20:32] <KiferB> oh...maybe, but they already emailed me saying all good
#2620 [20:32] <oldtopman> KiferB: Then you should be all good, nvm
#2621 [20:32] <mr_wibble> erm, im guessing youv never played minecraft
#2622 [20:32] <Briguy856> never
#2623 [20:32] <mr_wibble> i was talking to briguy856
#2624 [20:32] <KiferB> it's for my son 10 today, any is dying to get on
#2625 [20:33] <Briguy856> it said purchase complete
#2626 [20:33] <mr_wibble> lol
#2627 [20:33] <KiferB> lol, yes!
#2628 [20:33] <mr_wibble> it says that no matter what
#2629 [20:33] <mr_wibble> just download it and you should be able to play
#2630 [20:33] <KiferB> i'll do the download. Thanks for the help
#2631 [20:34] <Briguy856> it wont let me download it
#2632 [20:34] <Briguy856> it says user not premium
#2633 [20:34] <mr_wibble> well thats becuz the purchade didnt go thro!!!
#2634 [20:34] <mr_wibble> what credit card type did you use?
#2635 [20:34] <Briguy856> visa
#2636 [20:34] <mr_wibble> prepaid?
#2637 [20:34] <TheNoodle> Call your bank and confirm a payment was made to Mojang AB.
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#2639 [20:34] <Briguy856> no
#2640 [20:34] <mr_wibble> yea call your bank
#2641 [20:35] <Briguy856> if they say it was, wat do i do
#2642 [20:35] <mr_wibble> wait
#2643 [20:35] <TheNoodle> Then provide proof of purchase to mojang and your account will be activated.
#2644 [20:36] <Briguy856> like how
#2645 [20:36] <mr_wibble> EMAIL
#2646 [20:36] <TheNoodle> mr_wibble, please calm down.
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#2648 [20:36] <mr_wibble> :) lol
#2649 [20:36] <TheNoodle> Briguy856, normally a copy of the transaction id will be fine.
#2650 [20:36] <Briguy856> ok but what do i send them
#2651 [20:36] <Briguy856> ok
#2652 [20:36] <TheNoodle> Call your bank first.
#2653 [20:36] <Briguy856> lol one more question
#2654 [20:37] <Briguy856> were do i get the transaction id
#2655 [20:37] <Briguy856> ?
#2656 [20:37] <guest-0-88261> Anyone out there able to help?
#2657 [20:37] <TheNoodle> On your bank statement if the payment went through.
#2658 [20:37] <mr_wibble> ??ask
#2659 [20:37] <Briguy856> ok
#2660 [20:37] <TheNoodle> I can't stress this enough, you need to contact your bank.
#2661 [20:37] <TheNoodle> mr_wibble, it's ??> username factoid
#2662 [20:38] <Phyron> yep, though when i bought mine it took a couple hours for it to register.
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#2664 [20:38] <TheNoodle> Phyron, doesn't look like anyone apart from me is around that can handle connection issues :p
#2665 [20:38] <TheNoodle> Unless someone wants to chime in.
#2666 [20:38] <mib_08cecz> so how can i get minecraft downloaded once ive paid for it
#2667 [20:38] <mr_wibble> download button
#2668 [20:39] <TheNoodle> !client
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#2670 [20:39] <broy> hey can i have some help plz
#2671 [20:40] <Phyron> yeah noodle, im really not sure what else to do.
#2672 [20:40] <Briguy856> how do i play offline
#2673 [20:40] <Phyron> hahah you can use my computer. wont let ya have it any other way
#2674 [20:40] <TheNoodle> Briguy856, you need to log in to the client first.
#2675 [20:40] <Briguy856> i did
#2676 [20:40] <TheNoodle> Broy, just ask.
#2677 [20:41] <TheNoodle> Briguy856, and did minecraft download? (green bar etc)
#2678 [20:41] <broy> ok i got the bad video card thin
#2679 [20:41] <mib_08cecz> when i try to play the screen just goes black
#2680 [20:41] <Briguy856> i am logged in right now
#2681 [20:41] <broy> thing
#2682 [20:41] <Briguy856> i only want to play single player
#2683 [20:41] <TheNoodle> Briguy856, then press single player...
#2684 [20:41] <Briguy856> not online
#2685 [20:41] <Phyron> .....
#2686 [20:41] <TheNoodle> Briguy856, then press single player...
#2687 [20:41] <Briguy856> i am not a premium user
#2688 [20:41] <Briguy856> it says so
#2689 [20:42] <Phyron> aaahhh, well then you will have to buy the game.
#2690 [20:42] <TheNoodle> So you haven't logged in Briguy856?
#2691 [20:42] <Briguy856> even though i just bought
#2692 [20:42] <Briguy856> it
#2693 [20:42] <Phyron> ahhhh
#2694 [20:42] <mib_08cecz> thats what i am talking about it just goes black
#2695 [20:42] <Briguy856> i just bought it 5 hours ago
#2696 [20:42] <broy> hey kealper
#2697 [20:42] <Phyron> did you just buy it? Briguy856
#2698 [20:42] <TheNoodle> So when I told you to log into the client and you said you had, you were lieing?
#2699 [20:42] <Briguy856> 5 hours ago
#2700 [20:42] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, operating system?
#2701 [20:43] <Briguy856> no i am logged in right now
#2702 [20:43] <TheNoodle> Briguy856, account name?
#2703 [20:43] <Phyron> try logging into the website
#2704 [20:43] <TheNoodle> Briguy856, No, you're not.
#2705 [20:43] <Briguy856> Briguy856
#2706 [20:43] <mib_08cecz> what is that ?????
#2707 [20:43] <TheNoodle> !paid Briguy856
#2708 [20:43] <broy> hello some onne
#2709 [20:43] <Briguy856> yes i have
#2710 [20:43] <TheNoodle> Briguy856, you have NOT logged into the client using that account name.
#2711 [20:43] <Phyron> broy what can i do for you
#2712 [20:43] <TheNoodle> Do you understand?
#2713 [20:43] <Briguy856> wtf is the client then
#2714 [20:44] <broy> i got the bad card thing
#2715 [20:44] <Phyron> okay, what makes you think that
#2716 [20:44] <broy> video card
#2717 [20:44] <mib_08cecz> no
#2718 [20:44] <broy> me
#2719 [20:44] <TheNoodle> Do you understand that when I'm talking about the client i'm talking about the minecraft executable downloaded from minecraft.net? not logging in on the site?
#2720 [20:44] <TheNoodle> Either way, your payment has not gone through, how did you pay for the game?
#2721 [20:44] <Phyron> fair enough, so what can i do for you
#2722 [20:44] <Briguy856> credit card
#2723 [20:44] <broy> who
#2724 [20:44] <broy> ??
#2725 [20:44] <Phyron> you broy,
#2726 [20:45] <mib_08cecz> i paid through my moms cc
#2727 [20:45] <TheNoodle> Briguy856, call your bank and comfirm a payment from Mojang AB
#2728 [20:45] <broy> ok i keep getting the bad video card thing
#2729 [20:45] <Phyron> okay, can you run other games?
#2730 [20:45] <broy> yea online thts it
#2731 [20:45] <broy> y
#2732 [20:46] <Phyron> so just games on websites and stuff.
#2733 [20:46] <broy> yeah
#2734 [20:46] <Briguy856> then what
#2735 [20:46] <Phyron> okay, first things first, lets update your video card drivers
#2736 [20:46] <mib_08cecz> CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP MY LITTLE BRO HOW TO DOWNLOAD MINECRAFT SINCE IT APPEARS TO NOT WORK FOR ME
#2737 [20:46] <TheNoodle> Please don't use caps.
#2738 [20:47] <Phyron> no need to yell mib_08cecz
#2739 [20:47] <TheNoodle> What account name did you use mib_08cecz?
#2740 [20:47] <mib_08cecz> k
#2741 [20:47] <Phyron> broy, what kind of video card do you have?
#2742 [20:47] <broy> isn't there a website i can download a video thing kealper help me last time for my other pc
#2743 [20:47] <mib_08cecz> TOYmaker27
#2744 [20:47] <TheNoodle> broy, operating system?
#2745 [20:47] <broy> idk
#2746 [20:47] <TheNoodle> !paid toymaker27
#2747 [20:47] <Phyron> okay.
#2748 [20:47] <broy> windows
#2749 [20:47] <Briguy856> what do i do next i called the bank and they said it went through
#2750 [20:48] <TheNoodle> !client
#2751 [20:48] <mib_08cecz> yes
#2752 [20:48] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, just download the client from one of those links.
#2753 [20:48] <Phyron> which windows are you using?
#2754 [20:48] <TheNoodle> Broy, follow voxelheads instructions.
#2755 [20:48] <mib_08cecz> k
#2756 [20:48] <broy> windows 7
#2757 [20:48] <TheNoodle> ??> broy win/dxdiag
#2758 [20:48] <VoxelHead> broy: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2759 [20:48] <VoxelHead> broy: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2760 [20:48] <Briguy856> when i do it says i am not a premium user
#2761 [20:49] <TheNoodle> Briguy856, then mojang is yet to process the payment, just wait.
#2762 [20:49] <Briguy856> how long
#2763 [20:49] <TheNoodle> ??> Briguy856 payment
#2764 [20:49] <VoxelHead> Briguy856: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#2765 [20:49] <VoxelHead> Briguy856: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#2766 [20:49] <mib_08cecz> doesnt allow me to go into the website
#2767 [20:49] <Phyron> it took about 2 hours for me
#2768 [20:50] <Briguy856> well its been 5 hours
#2769 [20:50] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, log in at http://minecraft.net and then click on the link I gave you.
#2770 [20:50] <mib_08cecz> does it matter that i just bought the game
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#2773 [20:50] <mib_08cecz> how long b4 something should pop up?
#2774 [20:50] <broy> i dont getit
#2775 [20:50] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, I don't understand what you mean.
#2776 [20:51] <broy> i dont get it\
#2777 [20:51] <dylanbarberdude> hi
#2778 [20:51] <dylanbarberdude> guys can you help me
#2779 [20:51] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, just log in at minecraft.net once you've done that click the link that says download on the right hand side.
#2780 [20:51] <TheNoodle> Hey dylan, welcome back.
#2781 [20:51] <TheNoodle> What's up?
#2782 [20:51] <TheNoodle> Broy, what don't you understand?
#2783 [20:52] <broy> what to save
#2784 [20:52] <dylanbarberdude> can you rate and comment my world that i uploded on planet minecraft
#2785 [20:52] <TheNoodle> ask in #minecraft
#2786 [20:52] <TheNoodle> this is mostly for technical help.
#2787 [20:52] <dylanbarberdude> its not active
#2788 [20:52] <TheNoodle> ie, don't post links to a planet minecraft thread.
#2789 [20:53] <Phyron> hmmmm, TheNoodle , i think i might have a theory as to why my minecraft is offline only.
#2790 [20:53] <TheNoodle> Broy, where did you get up to before you go stuck?
#2791 [20:53] <dylanbarberdude> i uploaded it in projects
#2792 [20:53] <TheNoodle> Theorise away Phyron :)
#2793 [20:53] <TheNoodle> dylanbarberdude, in #minecraft, not here.
#2794 [20:53] <broy> thenoodle: i just opened the thing
#2795 [20:54] <TheNoodle> click save all information, it's a button at the bottom.
#2796 [20:54] <Phyron> i just ran an ipconfig and got a long arse mess
#2797 [20:54] <dylanbarberdude> ok
#2798 [20:54] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#2799 [20:54] <mib_08cecz> TheNoodle, is there a waiting time period before the game actually download, or should the game download immediately
#2800 [20:54] <TheNoodle> meh, that's normally just ipv6 Phyron.
#2801 [20:54] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, should download right away.
#2802 [20:54] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#2803 [20:54] <broy> thenoodle: do i still need the thing
#2804 [20:55] * TheNoodle cries
#2804 [20:55] <mib_08cecz> is there a number u could call for help
#2805 [20:55] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, sure.
#2806 [20:55] <TheNoodle> +61449068763
#2807 [20:55] <Phyron> well, it occurs to me that i am using the wireless internet at a ski resort,
#2808 [20:55] <TheNoodle> Phyron, well there's your problem.
#2809 [20:55] <TheNoodle> :P
#2810 [20:55] <broy> hello
#2811 [20:55] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#2812 [20:56] <TheNoodle> Broy, considering your inability to follow instructions like 'click the button' I don't think I cna help you.
#2813 [20:56] <Phyron> figured they wouldnt cripple the internet at the staff housing. cheap bastards
#2814 [20:56] <TheNoodle> *can
#2815 [20:56] <Phyron> hahahahahaha
#2816 [20:56] <broy> whats inability
#2817 [20:56] <dylanbarberdude> my router is ipv6 but my pc isn't
#2818 [20:56] <TheNoodle> dylanbarberdude, lolwat.
#2819 [20:57] <broy> oh ill listen more carefuly
#2820 [20:57] <TheNoodle> broy, google this "define:inability"
#2821 [20:57] <dylanbarberdude> TheNoodle, can i call you TN
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#2823 [20:57] <mib_08cecz> are u sure, because the number u gave s does not work
#2824 [20:57] <TheNoodle> Just call me Noodle
#2825 [20:58] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, that number does work.
#2826 [20:58] <TheNoodle> It's my mobile.
#2827 [20:58] <Phyron> broy step one is to scroll up and read the instructions that you were givin
#2828 [20:58] <TheNoodle> ;)
#2829 [20:58] <dylanbarberdude> Noooooooooooooooooooodle
#2830 [20:58] <Phyron> ooooooh bow chicka wow wow
#2831 [20:58] <TheNoodle> lolmute
#2832 [20:58] <dylanbarberdude> haha
#2833 [20:58] <mib_08cecz> we tried but it goes to voicemail
#2834 [20:59] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, Mojang does not offer technical support over the phone for minecraft, especially when it's just you not being able to download a file,.
#2835 [20:59] <broy> whats do u mean i opening the thing for voxelhead and putting the stuff in the paste bin
#2836 [20:59] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, unless you're in australia you just got a hell of a phone bill.
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#2838 [20:59] <mib_08cecz> so what should i do
#2839 [20:59] <TheNoodle> broy, read the instructions again.
#2840 [20:59] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, what browser are you using?
#2841 [20:59] <mib_08cecz> safari
#2842 [21:00] <TheNoodle> Don't.
#2843 [21:00] <Phyron> yes broy now you need to show us the paste bin thing so we can help you
#2844 [21:00] <TheNoodle> Use Chrome or Firefox.
#2845 [21:00] <dylanbarberdude> I met notcg before he was famous
#2846 [21:00] <dylanbarberdude> *notch
#2847 [21:00] <Phyron> hahah
#2848 [21:00] <mib_08cecz> i got to go eat, i will talk with u later
#2849 [21:00] <TheNoodle> dylanbarberdude, I met your mum before she had you.
#2850 [21:00] <TheNoodle> ;)
#2851 [21:00] <TheNoodle> Fun night.
#2852 [21:00] <dylanbarberdude> lier Noodle
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#2854 [21:01] <Phyron> hahah that it was, i remember it well Noodle
#2855 [21:01] <dylanbarberdude> ddont make me report you
#2856 [21:01] <TheNoodle> To who?
#2857 [21:01] <TheNoodle> :0
#2858 [21:01] <TheNoodle> Also, we both live in perth ;)
#2859 [21:01] <Phyron> we played pictionary
#2860 [21:01] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#2861 [21:02] <dylanbarberdude> sure you live in perth you just used my host name
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#2863 [21:02] <Phyron> well, im off to have a smoke and get cancer,
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#2865 [21:02] <Phyron> try not to despair too much noodle
#2866 [21:02] <dylanbarberdude> lol
#2867 [21:02] <broy> i pasted it now
#2868 [21:02] <TheNoodle> dylanbarberdude, I study at Curtin University and live in east vic park.
#2869 [21:03] <TheNoodle> It is currently 9:02am.
#2870 [21:03] <mr_evil> I have a basic question, I while back we bought minecraft and installed it onto one computer, now I would like to install it on another computer in our house. I cannot find the exe file, is it named something other than minecraft?
#2871 [21:03] <broy> 903
#2872 [21:03] <TheNoodle> mr_evil, just redownload it from minecraft.net
#2873 [21:03] <dylanbarberdude> ok i belive you
#2874 [21:03] <mr_evil> Ahh thx
#2875 [21:03] <TheNoodle> lol
#2876 [21:04] <dylanbarberdude> what course
#2877 [21:04] <TheNoodle> You can call me at 0892669311 if you really want to check dylan.
#2878 [21:04] <papaganoush> good evening. i am running mc for mac osx but the version is 1.8 not 1.8.1 how can i force it to update?
#2879 [21:04] <TheNoodle> Double major, computer science and networking.
#2880 [21:04] <broy> here it is http://pastebin.com/mPr0BdYG
#2881 [21:05] <TheNoodle> papaganoush, when you start the client click options, the force update button is there.
#2882 [21:05] <dylanbarberdude> brb
#2883 [21:05] <TheNoodle> broy, have you been able to run minecraft before?
#2884 [21:05] <papaganoush> I've done that a few times but it is still on 1.8
#2885 [21:05] <broy> no
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#2887 [21:06] <TheNoodle> papaganoush, if you forece update you get the latest official version.
#2888 [21:06] <TheNoodle> ??> retro broy
#2889 [21:06] <TheNoodle> derp
#2890 [21:06] <broy> whats retro
#2891 [21:06] <TheNoodle> ??> broy retro
#2892 [21:06] <VoxelHead> broy: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#2893 [21:06] <VoxelHead> broy: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#2894 [21:07] <papaganoush> okay thanks TheNoodle
#2895 [21:07] <TheNoodle> Broy, you need to hang around in the channel until there's someone that can help you with running minecraft on less than 1gb of ram, I'm too tired to do so :P
#2896 [21:07] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel, is a perfect person to do so.
#2897 [21:07] <TheNoodle> :D
#2898 [21:07] <broy> ok so whats i do
#2899 [21:07] <TheNytangel> Impossible
#2900 [21:07] <TheNytangel> Need moar RAM
#2901 [21:07] <TheNytangel> ?? requirements
#2902 [21:07] <VoxelHead> requirements: Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#2903 [21:08] <TheNoodle> Nytangel, look at broys pastebin, it was origonaly to determine his graphics card.
#2904 [21:08] <mib_08cecz> am back
#2905 [21:09] <mib_08cecz> noodle do u have any other number
#2906 [21:10] <TheNoodle> lol mib_08cecz, you don't need to call me :P
#2907 [21:10] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2908 [21:10] <dylanbarberdude> ??stats
#2909 [21:10] <dylanbarberdude> !stats
#2910 [21:10] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel, pretty sure we should offer voice support via mumble/vent/teamspeak :P
#2911 [21:10] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, ghost computer, can't help, no experience
#2912 [21:10] <TheNytangel> :o
#2913 [21:10] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, I could set that up..
#2914 [21:11] <TheNoodle> So could I :P
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#2916 [21:11] <TheNytangel> My Minecraft server comes with a free Mumble server, so it would be very easy :P
#2917 [21:11] <Phyron> at that point you should probly charge money\
#2918 [21:11] <TheNoodle> Beastnode? :P
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#2920 [21:11] <TheNoodle> I could run a 512 slot teamspeak or a 3000 slot mumble...
#2921 [21:11] <TheNoodle> :P
#2922 [21:12] <mib_qk08sy> I bought minecraft, and I go into the game, and please note my internet works perfectly, and whenever I try to run multiplayer, it says that it cannot connect to the server of the one I designated
#2923 [21:12] <broy> hey did you forget about me
#2924 [21:12] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, go ahead.. I forgot I have a max of 8
#2925 [21:12] <TheNoodle> mib_qk08sy, try aggression.bowlofnoodles.net
#2926 [21:12] <TheNoodle> lol nytangel :p
#2927 [21:13] <TheNoodle> thing is, without support from people like grey it would fail :P
#2928 [21:13] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, are you saying I'm not good enough?
#2929 [21:13] <TheNoodle> I'm saying two voiced users isn't enough :P
#2930 [21:13] <TheNytangel> Yes it is
#2931 [21:13] <TheNoodle> wait a minute
#2932 [21:13] <TheNoodle> where did my voice go >.<
#2933 [21:14] <Phyron> mib you might have the same problem as me
#2934 [21:14] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#2935 [21:14] <TheNoodle> lol
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#2937 [21:14] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel, rejoin if this works.
#2938 [21:14] <TheNoodle> !kick TheNytangel because I love you <3
#2939 [21:14] * AuBot kicked TheNytangel from #minecrafthelp (Reason: heNytangel :I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here. (Issued by TheNoodle with reason: because I love you <3))
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#2941 [21:14] <TheNytangel> >.>
#2942 [21:14] * TheNoodle giggles
#2942 [21:14] <TheNoodle> Well aubot still loves me.
#2943 [21:14] <TheNoodle> :D
#2944 [21:15] <TheNytangel> I would kick you back but that is un-civilized
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#2946 [21:15] <broy> hello thenoodle can u still help or not
#2947 [21:15] <TheNoodle> Broy, your computer cannot run minecraft.
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#2950 [21:16] <broy> oh ok kealper gave me a website for a video car do you know what it is
#2951 [21:16] <broy> card
#2952 [21:16] <TheNoodle> This is why we need people like kealp-r and grey, because your dxdiag doesn't show a graphics card and I have no idea how to find it :D
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#2954 [21:17] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, crap open the case
#2955 [21:17] <TheNoodle> Not with broy.
#2956 [21:17] <broy> is tht for me thenoodle
#2957 [21:17] <Phyron> he's running windows 7 and cant run minecraft? thats almost surprising.
#2958 [21:17] <TheNoodle> Phyron, he's running windows xp.
#2959 [21:17] <TheNytangel> Phyron, win XP prof.
#2960 [21:18] <TheNoodle> it's not even updated >.>
#2961 [21:18] <Phyron> thenoodle that explains almost everything
#2962 [21:18] <TheNoodle> sp2 lol
#2963 [21:18] <Phyron> ouch
#2964 [21:18] <TheNytangel> broy, I would suggest.. maybe.. a computer upgrade?
#2965 [21:19] <TheNytangel> A.k.a. a new computer
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#2967 [21:19] <TheNytangel> Glad he got the picture :)
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#2969 [21:19] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, TS2 or 3?
#2970 [21:19] <TheNoodle> 2
#2971 [21:19] <TheNoodle> wait
#2972 [21:19] <TheNoodle> waht
#2973 [21:19] <MGgoose> who can help me with my minecraft/java crash
#2974 [21:19] <mib_08cecz> a noodle i downloaded google chrome and it still does not work
#2975 [21:20] * TheNoodle stabs VoxelHead in the eye with a fork
#2975 [21:20] <TheNoodle> Don't know why I said 2 :P
#2976 [21:20] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, 200 player TS server. Which one
#2977 [21:20] <Phyron> i wonder if there might be a workaound for my multiplayer issues
#2978 [21:20] <mib_08cecz> who are u talking to
#2979 [21:20] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel, 512 max, ts3.
#2980 [21:20] <TheNytangel> Well you go ahead and make that
#2981 [21:20] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, I can't help someone that can't download a file >.>
#2982 [21:21] <mib_08cecz> ok which file
#2983 [21:21] <MGgoose> i get this error after 5-10 minutes "CreateRMSystemSurface: __glNvRmAllocMemory64 failed 42" i updated my graphics card and now the game is just insanly laggy and the problem still occors
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#2985 [21:22] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel, for the moment join us if you want :p
#2986 [21:22] <TheNoodle> coms.bowlofnoodles.net
#2987 [21:22] <MGgoose> can anyone help me?
#2988 [21:23] <TheNoodle> MGgoose, no idea sorry :/
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#2991 [21:23] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, 7030 port?
#2992 [21:23] <MGgoose> well how can i go back to the past version of navidia i had because i just updated it and now its way laggy
#2993 [21:23] <Phyron> MGgoose looks like a few other people have had this problem, try updating java
#2994 [21:23] <mib_08cecz> does anyone know the number of the company
#2995 [21:23] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel, the defualt port for ts3 is 9987 :P
#2996 [21:24] <MGgoose> i have the latest java 1.06.27
#2997 [21:24] <Phyron> hmmmm.
#2998 [21:24] <TheNoodle> mib_08cecz, as I have already told you, Mojang does not provide phone support.
#2999 [21:24] <MGgoose> i hava a pic but how do i show you guys??
#3000 [21:24] <TheNoodle> The only audio support provided, is being set up by myself and nytangel now :P
#3001 [21:24] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, just wait.. gotta update, too old
#3002 [21:24] <TheNoodle> lol
#3003 [21:25] <TheNytangel> I still have the version from when it first came out or something
#3004 [21:25] <MGgoose> can i show you a picture of my problem?>
#3005 [21:25] <Phyron> mggoose it seems like its an unresolved problem some people have. doesnt happen to too many people though. what kind of system are you running?
#3006 [21:26] <MGgoose> windows vista 32-bit with service pack 2.
#3007 [21:26] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, still have SLOW INTERNET so gotta wait 7 minutes..
#3008 [21:27] <Phyron> MGgoose Viiiisstaaaaa. i think that might be a part of your problem.
#3009 [21:27] <MGgoose> Phyron i download the newes/reccommened java and it still has this crash
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#3011 [21:27] <MGgoose> shit is vista that bad?
#3012 [21:28] <Phyron> MGgoose vista is worse than that bad.
#3013 [21:28] <TheNytangel> MGgoose, I have vista on my gaming computer >.>
#3014 [21:28] <mib_08cecz> does it matter if i downloaded minecraft from Macbook
#3015 [21:28] <Phyron> ....
#3016 [21:29] <dylanbarberdude> My old slow laptop from 2004 has faster download speeds then my destop from 1984
#3017 [21:29] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel, coms.bowlofnoodles.net:9986
#3018 [21:30] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, I got it, I just need a newer version
#3019 [21:30] <TheNytangel> Of TS
#3020 [21:30] <TheNoodle> Nytangel, the port changed :P
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#3022 [21:31] <Matthew> Hello
#3023 [21:31] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, later I will figure that out
#3024 [21:31] <TheNoodle> lolk
#3025 [21:31] <Matthew> mollstam
#3026 [21:31] <TheNytangel> Is away
#3027 [21:31] <Matthew> I need your help
#3028 [21:32] <MGgoose> Phyron http://pastebin.com/3SZwhwDm and http://pastebin.com/xCPGWhhU are my comp and java
#3029 [21:32] <TheNoodle> Matthew, what's your problem?
#3030 [21:32] <Matthew> It involves account things, I doubt you would be able to help
#3031 [21:32] <Matthew> Lol
#3032 [21:32] <Matthew> Sorry
#3033 [21:32] * mib_hftoab [mib_hftoab@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3034 [21:32] <Matthew> Like recovering a lost email account
#3035 [21:33] <TheNoodle> Mathew, email support.
#3036 [21:33] <Phyron> MGgoose im looking over them now, no promises but i'll try and figure it out.
#3037 [21:36] <MGgoose> TheNoodle how do i put a pic for people to see in the chat?
#3038 [21:36] <TheNoodle> http://imgur.com
#3039 [21:38] <Matthew> Thanks anyway TheNoodle, But that doesn't help
#3040 [21:38] <MGgoose> http://i.imgur.com/jjUCx.jpg Phyron TheNoodle this is the crash i have been expierencing
#3041 [21:38] <Matthew> My friend is just trying to remember his email
#3042 [21:38] <Phyron> MGgoose from what i've been able to figure out is that the problem you have is entirely due to your graphics card.
#3043 [21:38] * mib_taon5x [mib_taon5x@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3044 [21:38] <Phyron> but im getting somewhere on it.
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#3046 [21:40] <MGgoose> well i hope you can help me fix it Phyron
#3047 [21:41] <TheNoodle> MGgoose, do you overclock your pc?
#3048 [21:42] <MGgoose> overcloack??
#3049 [21:42] <MGgoose> overclock??*
#3050 [21:42] <TheNoodle> I'll take that as a no.
#3051 [21:42] <MGgoose> what is that?
#3052 [21:42] <TheNoodle> nvm :P
#3053 [21:43] <MGgoose> like never turning it off or the hard drive never stops working?
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#3055 [21:44] <TheNoodle> No, overclocking is pushing your hardware to perform better than what it does when you get it.
#3056 [21:44] <guest-0-54940> okaaay
#3057 [21:44] <TheNoodle> MGgoose, what sort of computer do you have?
#3058 [21:44] <phyrron> MGgoose i think i got it for ya
#3059 [21:45] <phyrron> MGgoose i want you to right click the shortcut for minecraft and set the compatibility mode to winxp
#3060 [21:45] <phyrron> see if that fixes it
#3061 [21:45] <MGgoose> :)phyrron REALLY??? OK DONE IN 1 SEC and to TheNoodle http://pastebin.com/3SZwhwDm that is mmy comp stats
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#3063 [21:46] <dylanbarberdude> bye
#3064 [21:46] <TheNoodle> :D
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#3066 [21:47] <MGgoose> it already is phyrron ... Windows XP (Service Pack 2)
#3067 [21:47] <phyrron> MGgoose well @#%$
#3068 [21:48] <phyrron> i'll keep looking
#3069 [21:49] <MGgoose> from what i've see when few others had this, the solution was the wrong java was installed but i always download the reccommened version phyrron
#3070 [21:50] <phyrron> yeah, from what i'm seeing minecraft hates your videocard. a couple people get what your getting others get other things.
#3071 [21:50] <phyrron> or vice versa
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#3073 [21:51] <MGgoose> so get a new Video card?? i just updated my Navidia and now the game is super laggy
#3074 [21:52] <MGgoose> can i downgrade Navidia? the last update, not the newest one, worked fine but it stilled crashed but no lag
#3075 [21:53] <phyrron> you should be able to
#3076 [21:53] <phyrron> open your device manager
#3077 [21:54] <MGgoose> ok phyrron got to the roolback button
#3078 [21:55] <phyrron> i've never rolledback my video drivers but that should go back to your old one.
#3079 [21:55] <MGgoose> roolback*
#3080 [21:55] <MGgoose> rollback**
#3081 [21:55] <phyrron> hahah
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#3083 [21:57] <phyrron> since i'm still here is anyone online that can figure out my multiplayer connection issues?
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#3085 [21:57] <MGgoose> oh god my video card is from 2009
#3086 [21:58] <MGgoose> phyrron you helped my i'll try to help you
#3087 [21:58] <MGgoose> what happens
#3088 [21:58] <phyrron> basically as far as i can figure it out somewhere between my computer and every effing server the connection gets blocked or something
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#3090 [21:59] <MGgoose> what exactly does it say
#3091 [22:00] <phyrron> "connection timed out: connect"
#3092 [22:00] <MGgoose> that means your internet is just slow
#3093 [22:00] <MGgoose> too slow
#3094 [22:01] <MGgoose> or the server host's is too slow
#3095 [22:01] <phyrron> i dont think its that.
#3096 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> You couldn't be more wrong MGgoose
#3097 [22:01] <phyrron> im pretty sure it has a lot to do with port forwarding.
#3098 [22:02] <TheNoodle> GreyVulpine, you busy?
#3099 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - Could you try either s.nerd.nu or smp.shadow-craft.net
#3100 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> TheNoodle - Hmm?
#3101 [22:02] <phyrron> hmmm, thanks.
#3102 [22:02] <MGgoose> no one ever said i was a tech geinus
#3103 [22:02] <shawn> I'm running 1.9 prerelease3 and trying to see if i can load up a challenge (skyblock challenge) on a mp server. I haven't found anything that works online (only instructions for SP mode). can anyone point me in the right direction?
#3104 [22:02] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel and I have an idea :P
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#3106 [22:02] <shawn> oh, and hi
#3107 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> shawn - We don't support buggy pre-releases here
#3108 [22:03] <phyrron> GreyVulpine: same error
#3109 [22:03] <MGgoose> shawn just put that world up as the multiplayer world and it will work
#3110 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - Then you have some sort of firewall on your computer that's filtering the connection to minecraft
#3111 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - What security software do you run?
#3112 [22:03] <phyrron> ESET NOD 32,
#3113 [22:03] <shawn> MGgoose: all I need to do is put the world folder in the same place as the other world folders and change the line in the server.properties to point to that instead of the default world, right?
#3114 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - You don't have the firewall blocking java/minecraft, right?
#3115 [22:04] <shawn> GreyVulpine: is there a better channel for those of us with beta versions?
#3116 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - I run eset on 3 seperate machines, all work fine for me.
#3117 [22:04] <phyrron> shawn the version of minecraft used to make the map and the version you are using has to be the same
#3118 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> shawn - Nope.
#3119 [22:04] <MGgoose> idk all ik is that you can make it the sever world like any other but your spawn might be different
#3120 [22:05] <phyrron> i have allowed java but minecraft doesnt even show up.
#3121 [22:05] <shawn> phyrron: thanks, so if they did it in prerelease 1 or 2, a prerelease 3 server might not work right with it. i'll look into that. thanks
#3122 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - Running any other firewall software on that computer?
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#3124 [22:05] <phyrron> GreyVulpine: nope
#3125 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - Could you ping either server in your cmd prompt?
#3126 [22:07] <MGgoose> wait... is it bad that i have Norton, McAffe, and Microsoft Essentials for my sucrity programs?
#3127 [22:07] <shawn> phyrron: my wife tried that map in single player mode and it worked fine (same release as my server). I think it might be more of how I'm configuring the server maybe? (i'm still asking the ?s in here because I'm not sure it is an issue with the version, moreso my lack of experience with the minecraft server)
#3128 [22:07] <phyrron> ping went fine
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#3130 [22:07] <shawn> MGgoose: you are a funny man
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#3132 [22:08] <MGgoose> *seciurity
#3133 [22:08] <manslock_> Hello, someone know a good place to host a minecraft server for around 6 slot with a good control panel and a nice price ?
#3134 [22:08] <MGgoose> i'm not trying to be funny i have all 3 of those on and running at once
#3135 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - You get ping responses back, and they're okay?
#3136 [22:08] <Scott> GreyVulpine: can I bite you?
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#3138 [22:08] <phyrron> GreyVulpine: yeah all fine and good
#3139 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> MGgoose - It's unwise to run more than 1 AV software at a time
#3140 [22:08] <shawn> MGgoose: then you need to get rid of all but 1... MSE is fine enough
#3141 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Scott - ?
#3142 [22:08] <Scott> I have possibly been exposed to rabies. :(
#3143 [22:09] * GreyVulpine pffts
#3143 [22:09] <shawn> the AVs lock horns with each other and cna slow things down badly
#3144 [22:09] <Scott> Today has been a wild goose chase to find human rabies immune globulin and rabies vaccines. :s
#3145 [22:09] <MGgoose> so that might be the source of my crash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#3146 [22:09] <Scott> No hospital in the area has them.
#3147 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - Would you be willing to turn off your Eset security software for a short while, just to rule it out?
#3148 [22:09] <shawn> also, McAfee (except corp. versions) is terrible and lets a lot of viruses in even if it is up to date and running fine... stick to norton or MSE... for price, i'd choose MSE
#3149 [22:10] <phyrron> GreyVulpine: no problem, its terribly outdated anyways.
#3150 [22:10] <MGgoose> Scott go to your county health department they should have a treament for it, otherwise your screwed
#3151 [22:10] <Scott> Yeah, they don't.
#3152 [22:10] <shawn> MGgoose: it could be the source of your computer not even booting up if it gets bad enough... it just takes 1 definition or engine update on one of the programs to make it lock up hard core
#3153 [22:10] <Scott> They're useless too.
#3154 [22:11] <Scott> The infection control person at a hospital is supposed to call me tomorrow. They're attempting to acquire the needed injections.
#3155 [22:11] <MGgoose> Scott the call the C.D.C.
#3156 [22:11] <Scott> Yeah I am tomorrow.
#3157 [22:11] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, stab me
#3158 [22:11] <Iguana> Hey Grey, go on Teamspeak
#3159 [22:11] <Scott> Everyone tells me to go to someone else.
#3160 [22:11] <TheNoodle> lol
#3161 [22:11] <Scott> It is so annoying.
#3162 [22:11] <Iguana> This is your overlord
#3163 [22:11] <Iguana> I command thy
#3164 [22:11] <phyrron> GreyVulpine: still cant connect to the servers
#3165 [22:11] <TheNoodle> coms.bowlofnoodles.net:9986
#3166 [22:12] <MGgoose> Iguana if you command me than make me slap my self with a fish
#3167 [22:12] <Iguana> Do it
#3168 [22:12] * TheNytangel makes MGgoose slap himself with a fish
#3168 [22:13] * MorningMist [MorningMist@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3169 [22:13] <MGgoose> OOOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOW IT SMELLS LIKE MY EX-GF
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#3171 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - Hmm.. both of those servers are up, and I can connect to them... Usually Connection timed out means there's some sort of filtering software, or routing problem between you and the server..
#3172 [22:14] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine is ignoring us, won't even stab me like normal
#3173 [22:14] * TheNoodle stabs GreyVulpine
#3173 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - You're absolutely sure you're not running any other firewall at all, not peerguardian or peerblock?
#3174 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> !grey on
#3175 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> !fart TheNoodle
#3176 [22:15] * GreyBot farts in TheNoodle's general direction. A green cloud envelops TheNoodle.
#3176 [22:15] <TheNoodle> :(
#3177 [22:15] <phyrron> GreyVulpine: i think it might have to do with the fact that im connecting through wireless at a ski resort
#3178 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> !grey off
#3179 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - That.. may be it
#3180 [22:15] <phyrron> GreyVulpine: any way i can get around it?
#3181 [22:16] <shawn> that very well might be, especially if they intentionally block odd ports (so people don't torrent the crap out of their connection)
#3182 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> phyrron - Unfortunately not.
#3183 [22:16] <TheNytangel> Hmm...
#3184 [22:16] <TheNytangel> !grey on
#3185 [22:16] <TheNytangel> Did it work..?
#3186 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> You'll never know
#3187 [22:16] <phyrron> torrenting is blocked on this network
#3188 [22:16] <shawn> phyrron: you could create an SSH tunnel to your house and then connect using that... but if you haven't already set that up, I doubt you'd wanna go through that trouble
#3189 [22:16] <TheNytangel> !fart GreyVulpine
#3190 [22:16] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, nope, not on
#3191 [22:17] <phyrron> hmmm, so, bounce it around a bit.
#3192 [22:17] <shawn> phyrron: you can't "block" torrenting, only block ports that they think you might use for it (so they might block all but port 80/443 and a few other major ports)
#3193 [22:17] <Scott> a VPN would work
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#3195 [22:17] <TheNytangel> JohnEBH
#3196 [22:17] <Levitator> Is something wrong with the payment processor?
#3197 [22:18] <JohnEBH> ?
#3198 [22:18] <JohnEBH> SC2 ing'
#3199 [22:18] <TheNytangel> :D
#3200 [22:18] <TheNytangel> JohnEBH, got TS3?
#3201 [22:18] <phyrron> hmmm, so can i re route my stuff through a different port that is open?
#3202 [22:19] <shawn> phyrron: not easily. you'd either need to change the port on the server or connect to a device outside of your local (ski resort) network via an open port and then have that machine connect to the server at the correct port
#3203 [22:19] <phyrron> so i would have to get a VPN,
#3204 [22:19] <shawn> best option would be doing an ssh tunnel... but it helps if you have an ssh server running at your house
#3205 [22:19] <shawn> right
#3206 [22:20] <phyrron> i think its most likely just going to be easier to just wait the few days and try from my new place in town.
#3207 [22:20] <Iguana> Gj noodle
#3208 [22:20] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle?
#3209 [22:20] <TheNytangel> We were having a conversation
#3210 [22:20] <TheNoodle> what the balls just happened...
#3211 [22:21] <shawn> you'd take a few weeks to figure out how to set one up most likely... and you'd need to be home to do so... so yeah
#3212 [22:21] <TheNoodle> you guys still on there? :P
#3213 [22:21] <shawn> however.... what about the browser based version?
#3214 [22:21] <phyrron> i like my low tech solution
#3215 [22:21] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, according to TS, I keep getting errurs
#3216 [22:21] <TheNoodle> hmm
#3217 [22:21] <phyrron> hmmm
#3218 [22:21] <TheNoodle> something has decided to happen to that server.
#3219 [22:21] <TheNytangel> Hmmmm
#3220 [22:21] <TheNoodle> I'll fix it :P
#3221 [22:21] <TheNytangel> Don't break it even more
#3222 [22:22] <Shadow386> I saw you GreyVulpine
#3223 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Lies
#3224 [22:23] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, I'm watching you...
#3225 [22:23] <Shadow386> You cannot hide from me!
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#3227 [22:24] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, gonna go make a sanvich
#3228 [22:24] <TheNoodle> kk
#3229 [22:25] <TheNoodle> should be back by then :p
#3230 [22:25] <TheNoodle> GreyVulpine, thoughts on providing support via an audio medium such as teamspeak or mumble?
#3231 [22:25] <Shadow386> oh god no
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#3233 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> No
#3234 [22:25] <Shadow386> do you know how many trolls and kids would scream into the mic?
#3235 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> I've done support via teamspeak for over 2 years. No more
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#3237 [22:26] <TheNoodle> lol
#3238 [22:26] <guest-0-52677> can anyone help me with a sever set up
#3239 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Rather would eat a jar of rusty nails
#3240 [22:26] <guest-0-52677> bukkit sever set up
#3241 [22:27] <MGgoose> CreateRMSystemSurface: __glNvRmAllocMemory64 failed 42 GrayVulpine do you know what causees this error
#3242 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, first glance, I'd guess RAM
#3243 [22:28] <guest-0-52677> ?
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#3245 [22:29] <JohnEBH> TheNytangel- Mumble
#3246 [22:29] <JohnEBH> Vent
#3247 [22:29] <JohnEBH> TS3 </3
#3248 [22:29] <TheNytangel> ?
#3249 [22:29] <yort> Hello, i've been having trouble running minecraft, as after about 5 minutes of playing it shuts down with the message "Java Platform SE Binary has stopped responding
#3250 [22:29] * mib_fm3h52 [mib_fm3h52@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3251 [22:29] <Levitator> Why is it that when I try to buy the game, it says my account is locked for security reasons?
#3252 [22:30] <TheNytangel> JohnEBH, you have boobs?
#3253 [22:30] <TheNytangel> Lol jk
#3254 [22:30] * TheNytangel feels a kick coming on
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#3255 [22:31] <wikkit> hey
#3256 [22:31] <TheNytangel> Everyone is dead
#3257 [22:31] * |Kiikun| cackles evilly!
#3257 [22:31] <wikkit> lol
#3258 [22:31] <wikkit> hey can i get some help?
#3259 [22:32] <TheNytangel> That is not at all what this channel is for, but we can give it a shot
#3260 [22:32] <wikkit> you have minecraft and im not suprised
#3261 [22:32] <|Kiikun|> TheNytangel (or anyone actually): ever hear of a sky-boat dock?
#3262 [22:32] <TheNytangel> No
#3263 [22:32] <MGgoose> http://pastebin.com/xCPGWhhU http://pastebin.com/3SZwhwDm GreyVulpine comp and java can you figure out what is causeing it and how to fix it
#3264 [22:32] <wikkit> nevermind then...
#3265 [22:33] * TheNytangel just remembered what horseraddish tastes like
#3265 [22:33] <TheNoodle> wikkit, we provide support for minecraft, what's up? :P
#3266 [22:33] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, only on days that end in "Y"
#3267 [22:33] <TheNoodle> ah true.
#3268 [22:33] <wikkit> uh is it noemal for my minecraft beta to crash evry 5 min?
#3269 [22:33] <TheNoodle> So I'd come back tomorrow wikkit.
#3270 [22:33] <TheNoodle> :P
#3271 [22:33] <wikkit> normal*
#3272 [22:33] <|Kiikun|> MGgoose: it looks like java isnt able to access the minecraft files. try a forceupdate
#3273 [22:33] <|Kiikun|> ??> MGgoose forceupdate
#3274 [22:33] <wikkit> aw lol :p
#3275 [22:33] <VoxelHead> MGgoose: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3276 [22:34] <VoxelHead> MGgoose: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
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#3278 [22:34] <|Kiikun|> MGgoose: if that doesnt work.. a java reinstall and mc reinstall
#3279 [22:34] <wikkit> kk brb
#3280 [22:35] <yort> hellO/
#3281 [22:35] <yort> can i please have help
#3282 [22:35] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, is 206GB of 455GB free of HD space good? And is 3.03GB of 9.99GB free of D drive good?
#3283 [22:35] <yort> i've been having trouble running minecraft, as after about 5 minutes of playing it shuts down with the message "Java Platform SE Binary has stopped responding"
#3284 [22:35] <yort> is there a way to fix this?
#3285 [22:36] <TheNoodle> TheNytangel, only if most of that is doctor who.
#3286 [22:37] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, no doctor who
#3287 [22:37] <MGgoose> i have done all of the unistalls and forceupdates the bug re-occurs
#3288 [22:37] <Iguana> Rusty nails are tasty Grey
#3289 [22:37] <Iguana> Especially when seasoned with baby blood
#3290 [22:39] <MGgoose> Yort that is somewhat similar to my problem because thats what happens if i play too long past my popup window
#3291 [22:39] <yort> popup window?
#3292 [22:40] <MGgoose> CreateRMSystemSurface: __glNvRmAllocMemory64 failed 42 <---- in a java window
#3293 [22:42] <|Kiikun|> MGgoose: have you deleted your /bin and /resources folders?
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#3295 [22:45] <THOTpd> I'm trying to use FLAN's WWII gun mod and am only getting pink boxes instead of the weapons box and it's missing the gun picutres/textures
#3296 [22:45] <shawn> ok, so this world runs locally just fine, copying the same exact world to my server (running same version) only has space and i drop indefinitely until i get booted, citing the server doesn't allow flying
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#3298 [22:47] <MGgoose> |Kiikun| yeah i completly deleted everything minecraft and re-installed it and the crash again
#3299 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> THOTpd - Make sure you're using the correct version of the mod, and that both the mod's version and your client version matches. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/182918-181smp-flans-mods-planes-ww2-guns-vehicles-playerapi-moods-mputils-teams/#Guns
#3300 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> THOTpd - Follow the installation instructions there precisely.
#3301 [22:48] <|Kiikun|> MGgoose: with java.security.AccessControlException: access denied (java.util.PropertyPermission user.home read)?
#3302 [22:49] <THOTpd> thought I did grey
#3303 [22:50] <THOTpd> I get the box but no textures
#3304 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> THOTpd - Then I'd post in that thread, see if anybody else there experience the same thing
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#3306 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> THOTpd - Also, are you using the default textures? or a different texturepack?
#3307 [22:54] <THOTpd> default
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#3309 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Sorry then, don't know. Try posting in that thread
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#3311 [22:56] <yort> can someone help me...
#3312 [22:56] <mib_vehdd1> hi
#3313 [22:56] <MGgoose> |KiiKun| this is my problem http://i.imgur.com/jjUCx.jpg
#3314 [22:56] <mib_vehdd1> i cant run it its just a black screen
#3315 [22:57] <MGgoose> mib_vehdd1 just force update minecraft
#3316 [22:57] <mib_vehdd1> i did no change
#3317 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_vehdd1 - Has it worked before? What operating system are you on
#3318 [22:57] <mib_vehdd1> i worked just a second ago
#3319 [22:58] <MGgoose> delete all MC stuff except your saves and put those in a different folder then re-download MC
#3320 [22:58] <mib_vehdd1> i had version 1.7.3 cuz i hadnt played in a while
#3321 [22:58] <mib_vehdd1> ??
#3322 [22:58] <mib_vehdd1> how?
#3323 [22:58] <yort> hello please someone can you help me
#3324 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_vehdd1 win/reinst/bat
#3325 [22:58] <VoxelHead> mib_vehdd1: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#3326 [22:58] <VoxelHead> mib_vehdd1: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#3327 [22:59] <mib_vehdd1> takes me to a weird search website...
#3328 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> erm, try these instructions instead
#3329 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_vehdd1 win/reinst
#3330 [22:59] <VoxelHead> mib_vehdd1: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3331 [22:59] <VoxelHead> mib_vehdd1: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3332 [23:00] <mib_vehdd1> im on a mac
#3333 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> What version is your Mac OS?
#3334 [23:00] <mib_vehdd1> idk mac book??
#3335 [23:00] <shawn> oy vey
#3336 [23:00] <mib_vehdd1> thats all i know irs not actually mone
#3337 [23:00] <mib_vehdd1> mine*
#3338 [23:00] <mib_vehdd1> sisters*
#3339 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Go up to the apple menu, and click on "about this mac"
#3340 [23:01] <mib_vehdd1> ok
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#3342 [23:01] <mib_vehdd1> oh 10.5.8
#3343 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> There is a known incompatibility with 10.5.8 and minecraft 1.8.1
#3344 [23:01] <mib_vehdd1> ok
#3345 [23:02] <mib_vehdd1> what is it?
#3346 [23:02] <TheNoodle> :old/mac
#3347 [23:02] <WugBot> old/mac: As of the 1.8 update minecraft will not work on Mac OSX 10.5.8, due to an update in the version of OpenGL it uses. This is a known issue and will be corrected as soon as 1.9 is released. Please be patient, as this is not the fault of Mojang. Blame instead apple, becuse they cannot keep their OS's running the latest version of important software.
#3348 [23:02] <WugBot> old/mac: A fan made fix can be found here: http://goo.gl/ae0jx and a tutorial here: http://goo.gl/IWLwN
#3349 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> This issue is addressed in 1.9, unfortunately it won't be released until Nov
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#3351 [23:02] <mib_vehdd1> :0
#3352 [23:02] <mib_vehdd1> not cool minecraft...
#3353 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Not minecraft's fault
#3354 [23:02] <mib_vehdd1> not... cool...
#3355 [23:02] <mib_vehdd1> ok
#3356 [23:03] <shawn> what grey said
#3357 [23:03] <mib_vehdd1> whos is it then?
#3358 [23:03] <shawn> mac isn't this super uber no issues OS you know
#3359 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Apple's, for not packaging the latest software for your computer
#3360 [23:03] <mib_vehdd1> not cool apple...
#3361 [23:03] <mib_vehdd1> not... cool...
#3362 [23:03] <almostroot> Apple, for wanting you to pay for major code base changes...
#3363 [23:03] <TheNytangel> Hurry, while steve is dead, go buy apple and make macs better
#3364 [23:03] <shawn> so... in the words of paris hilton... "that's hot" ?
#3365 [23:04] <shawn> if it's not cool
#3366 [23:04] <mib_vehdd1> um can i download old versions of minecraft??
#3367 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> No.
#3368 [23:04] <almostroot> ??> mib_vehdd1 oldversion
#3369 [23:04] <almostroot> ??> mib_vehdd1 oldversions
#3370 [23:04] <VoxelHead> mib_vehdd1: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#3371 [23:04] <TheNytangel> Illegal.
#3372 [23:04] <shawn> if it is fixed in 1.9, the beta prereleases should work, no?
#3373 [23:04] <mib_vehdd1> not cool...
#3374 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> shawn - Don't know, don't have a mac
#3375 [23:04] <shawn> nor do i, i run linux and win7
#3376 [23:04] <mib_vehdd1> well then
#3377 [23:05] <mib_vehdd1> i hate macs
#3378 [23:05] <almostroot> I really don't agree with saying no to old versions, but then allowing the usage of the "troubleshooting minecraft client".
#3379 [23:05] <shawn> but worth a stab if you're just doing single player
#3380 [23:05] <mib_vehdd1> ya
#3381 [23:05] <mib_vehdd1> i am
#3382 [23:05] <mib_vehdd1> i like pcs wwaaaay better... 1 of the reasons demonstrated hear...
#3383 [23:05] <TheNoodle> almostroot, isn't the dubug client just a launcher that still authenticates?
#3384 [23:05] <mib_vehdd1> well imma go now i got hw
#3385 [23:06] <almostroot> TheNoodle: It;s redistributing Mojang's IP, which is breaking the one major rule.
#3386 [23:06] <mib_vehdd1> bye all you minecraft smart ppl
#3387 [23:06] <mib_vehdd1> :D
#3388 [23:06] <almostroot> TheNoodle: http://www.minecraft.net/terms
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#3390 [23:09] <DR_BLUE> my minecraft takes up too much memory how do i fix this
#3391 [23:09] <almostroot> DR_BLUE: Using any mods or texture packs higher than the default?
#3392 [23:10] <DR_BLUE> no
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#3394 [23:12] <DR_BLUE> when I run minecraft it will run fine for a couple of minutes then my computer says high memory usage and shuts the game down
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#3397 [23:19] <yort> Hello can i have some assistance
#3398 [23:19] <creepergunacreep> hi, why do chests and signs and paintings have really screwy lighting since 1.8, id it of rverybody?
#3399 [23:20] <creepergunacreep> does everybody have it**
#3400 [23:20] <PerfectPhoenix> Hi there, I'm having problems with my Minecraft Beta (V 1.8.1) Whenever I play, it works well. It's an awesome game, but after around ten minutes, the game freezes on me, and I have to use Task Manager to close it every time. Can you help?
#3401 [23:20] <DR_BLUE> I have the same problem.
#3402 [23:21] <PerfectPhoenix> Thankfully it saves during the play, but it just gets annoying to reload the game each time and it constantly freezing on me.
#3403 [23:22] <creepergunacreep> do you have java 6_26?
#3404 [23:22] <PerfectPhoenix> Lemme see.
#3405 [23:22] <creepergunacreep> http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3406 [23:22] <creepergunacreep> check here
#3407 [23:23] <PerfectPhoenix> My version number is 6.0.270
#3408 [23:23] <creepergunacreep> ayea thats right, there was an update lol
#3409 [23:23] <DR_BLUE> same here
#3410 [23:23] <PerfectPhoenix> Yeah, I updated it and still freezes after ten minutes. I would get lucky and play for fifteen.
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#3412 [23:24] <creepergunacreep> hm, well does your computer have good specs?
#3413 [23:24] <creepergunacreep> how much ram
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#3415 [23:24] <PerfectPhoenix> Good specs?
#3416 [23:24] <creepergunacreep> nvm, just how much ram does it have
#3417 [23:24] <PerfectPhoenix> Where do I find that?
#3418 [23:24] <PerfectPhoenix> I have Windows. XD
#3419 [23:25] <creepergunacreep> right click on computer under start menu and click properties
#3420 [23:25] <Thrae> ??> PerfectPhoenix win/dxdiag
#3421 [23:25] <VoxelHead> PerfectPhoenix: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3422 [23:25] <VoxelHead> PerfectPhoenix: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3423 [23:25] <Thrae> PerfectPhoenix: Follow those instructions and we can tell you the specs, among other things about your hardware.
#3424 [23:25] <creepergunacreep> awww, i forgot what the shortcut was :)
#3425 [23:25] <creepergunacreep> ty
#3426 [23:26] <Thrae> DR_BLUE: What's your total RAM? If you're not sure, follow VoxelHead's instructions and we can tell you ^^^^
#3427 [23:26] <PerfectPhoenix> The IRC channel?
#3428 [23:26] <creepergunacreep> here
#3429 [23:27] <PerfectPhoenix> Duh. XD Thanks, hold on.
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#3431 [23:28] <creepergunacreep> heres mine XD http://pastebin.com/5cU8hZxc
#3432 [23:28] <Thrae> creepergunacreep: Did you have a problem?
#3433 [23:28] <creepergunacreep> no
#3434 [23:28] <Thrae> OK, just making sure
#3435 [23:28] <PerfectPhoenix> http://pastebin.com/q3z5uxzm Here's mine.
#3436 [23:28] <creepergunacreep> :)
#3437 [23:28] <creepergunacreep> eww intel graphics card
#3438 [23:28] <PerfectPhoenix> Can people get into other's computers with just knowing this?
#3439 [23:28] <creepergunacreep> no
#3440 [23:29] <PerfectPhoenix> XD. I am very paranoid when it comes to info.
#3441 [23:29] <Thrae> PerfectPhoenix: You'd need to know about your software, this is just your hardware, so it's pretty safe
#3442 [23:29] <PerfectPhoenix> Ok. Thanks
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#3444 [23:30] <PerfectPhoenix> So, what's the situation?
#3445 [23:30] <Thrae> One sec
#3446 [23:30] <creepergunacreep> i like how mine it says the graphics card is INTEL HD and the manufacturer is AMD lol, um well you have a crappy graphics card
#3447 [23:30] <Thrae> creepergunacreep: Switchable graphics?
#3448 [23:31] <creepergunacreep> theres a sticker on the front that says that
#3449 [23:31] <PerfectPhoenix> So, what?
#3450 [23:31] <Thrae> PerfectPhoenix: Follow the instructions here, ignore the part where it says it's for Satellite C660 laptops -- http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/toshiba_c660_laptops_and_ati_problem
#3451 [23:31] <Thrae> creepergunacreep: Yeah, unfortunately often Switchable Graphics isn't correctly reported by DxDiag
#3452 [23:32] <Thrae> And it can cause problems with games like Minecraft since the entire graphics engine isn't initialized until you actually enter a world
#3453 [23:32] <PerfectPhoenix> So, I just download a second driver?
#3454 [23:32] <DR-BLUE> Whenever I launch minecraft it automatically takes up 400,000 k in memory, why is this?
#3455 [23:32] <Thrae> PerfectPhoenix: You download that driver and use the Update Driver Wizard per instructions
#3456 [23:32] <Thrae> DR-BLUE: Using any mods or texture packs?
#3457 [23:32] <PerfectPhoenix> Okay. I'll report when it's done.
#3458 [23:33] <DR-BLUE> No I am not.
#3459 [23:33] <Thrae> DR-BLUE: Is this Windows?
#3460 [23:34] <creepergunacreep> yea, i think i should be able to get better then 10 fps with the graphics card my comp has. i set it to high in the swithable thing but no fix :(
#3461 [23:34] <DR-BLUE> Yes it is
#3462 [23:35] <Thrae> creepergunacreep: Need to set it in ATI Control Panel to always use the ATI GPU when running java.exe or javaw.exe
#3463 [23:35] <Thrae> creepergunacreep: Not Minecraft.exe, as that just launches Java
#3464 [23:35] <almostroot> DR-BLUE: Minecraft tries to allocate about 1GB of memory at startup. This is normal behavior.
#3465 [23:35] <creepergunacreep> and where would i find the ATI control panel
#3466 [23:36] <creepergunacreep> o nvm i think i found it
#3467 [23:36] <almostroot> DR-BLUE: How much memory is installed in your computer?
#3468 [23:36] <Thrae> DR-BLUE: Yeah, Windows has what's called "Private Bytes" and "Working Set" -- the "Working Set" is the actual amount of memory it's using
#3469 [23:37] <creepergunacreep> wait....where s the ATI control panel, im on the AMD control panel ?
#3470 [23:37] <Thrae> creepergunacreep: AMD owns ATI, so same thing
#3471 [23:37] <almostroot> creepergunacreep: ATI was bought by AMD.
#3472 [23:38] <creepergunacreep> ok lol
#3473 [23:38] <DR-BLUE> My computer has 2gb of RAM.
#3474 [23:38] <almostroot> Kealper: I agree with that change.
#3475 [23:38] <almostroot> DR-BLUE: Try closing some programs while running Minecraft if you are receiving out of memory errors.
#3476 [23:38] <TheNoodle> :'(
#3477 [23:38] <Kealper> makes me want to go boot into a *nix distro and learn more C :<
#3478 [23:38] <creepergunacreep> well both java.exe and javaw.ee are set to high performence under switchable graphics
#3479 [23:38] <PerfectPhoenix> All right, it's going to reboot, so if it doesn't work, I'll come right back, but you guys are awesome. Thanks for the help!
#3480 [23:39] <almostroot> Kealper: Want a link to my recommended book for C in Linux/POSIX?
#3481 [23:39] <Kealper> i've got a website bookmarked that is pretty good for basics, i was slowly learning it lol
#3482 [23:40] * Thrae loves coding in C more than C++, especially on embedded systems
#3482 [23:40] <Kealper> from the little bit i know of C and C++, i actually kind of like C more, myself
#3483 [23:40] <Sardonicus> I only know C
#3484 [23:40] <DR-BLUE> As soon as I launch minecraft take up 400,000 working sets at least
#3485 [23:41] <almostroot> DR-BLUE: Working set is referring to the physical memory that is currently in use. It is not a measurement.
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#3487 [23:42] <almostroot> I'm not a C/Fortran programmer or a bash scripted or a , I'm a guy who knows how to tell computers what to do. And C was my first language. I learned from a beat-up second-hand copy of this: http://vig-fp.prenhall.com/bigcovers/0131103628.jpg
#3488 [23:42] <Thrae> DR-BLUE: Both Working Set and Private Bytes are memory measurements and I bet you're looking at Private Bytes. Also, it would be java.exe or javaw.exe that takes up the memory.
#3489 [23:43] <almostroot> bash scripter*
#3490 [23:43] <DR-BLUE> Yes javaw.exe is what takes up the memory.
#3491 [23:43] <Thrae> DR-BLUE: Basically this means the memory is *allocated*, but not actually used.
#3492 [23:44] <Kealper> almostroot: D:
#3493 [23:44] <DR-BLUE> After a few minutes of playing the game I get an error of high memory usage by norton and then minecraft becomes unresponsive.
#3494 [23:45] <TheNoodle> Disable norton or allow minecraft/java as an exception.
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#3497 [23:46] <Taylard> 1.9 for iOS?! AWWWW YEEEEAAAAAAH!!!
#3498 [23:46] <Kealper> wat.
#3499 [23:47] <TheNoodle> ....wat no.
#3500 [23:47] <Taylard> it hasn't been working for mac in forevar
#3501 [23:47] <TheNoodle> ...you know what iOS is right?
#3502 [23:47] <Thrae> Taylard: iOS != Mac, Mac is OS X
#3503 [23:47] <Taylard> i meant os x
#3504 [23:47] <Kealper> Taylard: that's a "bug" with OSX 10.5
#3505 [23:47] <TheNoodle> iOS = iPod, iPhone...
#3506 [23:47] <TheNoodle> And it was working fine for 1.7.3
#3507 [23:47] <Thrae> And it's a bug in OS X versions 10.5.8 and earlier (sometimes later)
#3508 [23:47] <TheNoodle> And works in 1.8.1 with a small patch.
#3509 [23:48] <DR-BLUE> how do I allow minecraft/java as an exception in norton
#3510 [23:48] <Taylard> How do I put up the patch?
#3511 [23:48] <TheNoodle> :old/mac
#3512 [23:48] <WugBot> old/mac: As of the 1.8 update minecraft will not work on Mac OSX 10.5.8, due to an update in the version of OpenGL it uses. This is a known issue and will be corrected as soon as 1.9 is released. Please be patient, as this is not the fault of Mojang. Blame instead apple, becuse they cannot keep their OS's running the latest version of important software.
#3513 [23:48] <WugBot> old/mac: A fan made fix can be found here: http://goo.gl/ae0jx and a tutorial here: http://goo.gl/IWLwN
#3514 [23:48] <Thrae> DR-BLUE: Sounds like something Norton specific, unless Norton is catching an error from Java
#3515 [23:48] * TheNoodle points to goo.gl links
#3515 [23:49] <DR-BLUE> Alright thanks
#3516 [23:49] <Taylard> thank you
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#3518 [23:55] <kguvuoi> i have an issue with the world not loading at all when i log in to an smp server
#3519 [23:55] <kguvuoi> i just fall into the void
#3520 [23:55] <kguvuoi> but i am an administrator so i can fly
#3521 [23:56] <kguvuoi> this happens on all servers
#3522 [23:56] <Sardonicus> haha
#3523 [23:56] <kguvuoi> and i have got a fully standard minecraft
#3524 [23:56] <Sardonicus> not a clue
#3525 [23:56] <kguvuoi> only started happening a week or two ago
#3526 [23:56] <kguvuoi> weird yeah?
#3527 [23:57] <kguvuoi> the server is not down as i have called the owner
#3528 [23:57] <kguvuoi> also i think that i crash it when i log onto it
#3529 [23:58] <kguvuoi> because i can no longer reconnect until 20 minutes later
#3530 [23:58] <Sardonicus> any messages?
#3531 [23:58] <kguvuoi> read time out one
#3532 [23:58] <kguvuoi> i have internet connection of 6 mbps
#3533 [23:59] <kguvuoi> or there abouts
#3534 [23:59] <kguvuoi> and my pc plays crysiss on 3 screens
#3535 [23:59] <kguvuoi> so yeh
#3536 [23:59] <Sardonicus> maybe one of these ingenious mods has an idea!
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#3538 [23:59] <kguvuoi> thats what i was hoping