#MinecraftHelp > 2011-10-14
#1 [00:00] <Sardonicus> looks like they're all asleep
#2 [00:00] <kguvuoi> i will put up the server ip in a few
#3 [00:00] <kguvuoi> when it appears to be back up
#4 [00:02] * mib_a7slo6 [mib_a7slo6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#5 [00:02] <mib_a7slo6> i boght minecraft but idk how to install it
#6 [00:02] <kguvuoi> go on the site
#7 [00:03] <mib_a7slo6> i got the 260kb file
#8 [00:03] <kguvuoi> and on the front page
#9 [00:03] <mib_a7slo6> but it doesnt download anything
#10 [00:03] <kguvuoi> oh
#11 [00:03] <kguvuoi> its an exe file
#12 [00:03] <mib_a7slo6> yes
#13 [00:03] <Ahhhk> Download the Minecraft.exe
#14 [00:03] <kguvuoi> how so?
#15 [00:03] <mib_a7slo6> i got that
#16 [00:03] <Ahhhk> Run it...log in....install will happen
#17 [00:03] <mib_a7slo6> it doesnt
#18 [00:03] <mib_a7slo6> can you teamview?
#19 [00:03] <kguvuoi> dose it run?
#20 [00:04] <mib_a7slo6> it runs
#21 [00:04] <mib_a7slo6> but when i click login
#22 [00:04] <mib_a7slo6> it says
#23 [00:04] <mib_a7slo6> let me check
#24 [00:04] <Ahhhk> Stop
#25 [00:04] <Ahhhk> with
#26 [00:04] <Ahhhk> the
#27 [00:04] <TheNoodle> ...
#28 [00:04] <mib_a7slo6> play offline(not downloaded)
#29 [00:04] <TheNoodle> Try not to spam ^_^
#30 [00:04] <Sardonicus> eh TheNoodle I'm still banned lol
#31 [00:05] * TheNoodle nods
#31 [00:05] <TheNoodle> did you post an appeal :P
#32 [00:05] <Ahhhk> I was trying to say....stop with the enter fetish....but got the smackdown
#33 [00:05] <Sardonicus> you mean in forums?
#34 [00:05] <mib_a7slo6> can you guys teamview me or tell me what to do?
#35 [00:05] <TheNoodle> Yep
#36 [00:05] <Sardonicus> isn't talking to mods enough?
#37 [00:05] <TheNoodle> that depends, do the 'mods' love you?
#38 [00:05] <Sardonicus> why should they lol
#39 [00:06] <Sardonicus> didn't pay them money
#40 [00:06] <Sardonicus> so not
#41 [00:06] <mib_a7slo6> i boght mc and when i log in it says "play offline(not downloaded)"
#42 [00:06] <Ahhhk> Oh wait...did you install Java?
#43 [00:06] <kguvuoi> click options
#44 [00:06] <kguvuoi> lol
#45 [00:07] <TheNoodle> JUst click log in...
#46 [00:07] <TheNoodle> pretty simple.
#47 [00:07] <mib_a7slo6> i logged in but it doesnt dl anything
#48 [00:07] <mib_a7slo6> pretty simple
#49 [00:07] <Sardonicus> I just find it rather obscure to be permabanned for spamming after being for 15 days in that channel, plus the spamming was one pasted address suddenly being too long
#50 [00:08] <kguvuoi> force download?
#51 [00:08] <Ahhhk> kick the machine really hard?
#52 [00:08] <TheNoodle> Well it's up to the ops to decide how they ban people Sardonicus, if you feel that it was unfair use minecraftirc or speak to them in private.
#53 [00:08] <mib_a7slo6> when i click force download it doesnt do anything
#54 [00:08] <kguvuoi> :/
#55 [00:08] <Ahhhk> Firewall?
#56 [00:09] <Sardonicus> Minecraftirc = forums?
#57 [00:09] <kguvuoi> mmmm would be my next guess
#58 [00:09] <TheNoodle> Yes
#59 [00:09] <TheNoodle> ie, don't complain about the decisions of ops in another channel in here.
#60 [00:10] <kguvuoi> anyone got any ideas about my issue?
#61 [00:10] <Ahhhk> TheNoodle: Can I at least complain about the IRS in here? :)
#62 [00:10] <Sardonicus> what's wrong about complaining?
#63 [00:10] <TheNoodle> Ahhhk, lolwat.
#64 [00:10] <TheNoodle> Sardonicus, this isn't #bitchabout#minecraft
#65 [00:10] <TheNoodle> go there if you want to complain :P
#66 [00:11] <Ahhhk> Oh...I got a question
#67 [00:11] <Sardonicus> I'm no bitch... pls keep your language....
#68 [00:11] <Sardonicus> hehe
#69 [00:11] * Ahhhk raises his hand
#69 [00:11] <mib_a7slo6> nothing still
#70 [00:11] <mib_a7slo6> can you guys teamview my pc?
#71 [00:11] <Sardonicus> *watch
#72 [00:11] <TheNoodle> Yes, I did just register that channel.
#73 [00:11] <TheNoodle> :p
#74 [00:11] <TheNoodle> yes Ahhhk?
#75 [00:11] <Ahhhk> no teamview 4U!
#76 [00:11] <TheNoodle> mib_a7slo6, I won't :P
#77 [00:12] <Ahhhk> Is there some kind of trick to installing two separate mods, that both overwrite one or more of the same files in the minecraft.bin?
#78 [00:12] <mib_a7slo6> ?
#79 [00:12] <Sardonicus> nice
#80 [00:13] <kguvuoi> :/ any other places i can go for minecraft help ?
#81 [00:13] <TheNoodle> ??> Ahhhk mods
#82 [00:13] <VoxelHead> Ahhhk: (mods) As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#83 [00:13] <VoxelHead> Ahhhk: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit or #bukkithelp -- Mod creators can also try #mcp-modding
#84 [00:13] <TheNoodle> kguvuoi, what's your problem?
#85 [00:13] <kguvuoi> um scroll up
#86 [00:13] <kguvuoi> but
#87 [00:13] <mib_a7slo6> if i install cracked mc just to dl the game then use legit one
#88 [00:13] <mib_a7slo6> would it work^?
#89 [00:13] <kguvuoi> basically when i log in thee is no terrain
#90 [00:13] <Ahhhk> Was kinda hoping for something a lil less....canned. But ok...thanks
#91 [00:13] <mib_a7slo6> CAN I GET HELP?
#92 [00:14] <kguvuoi> as in
#93 [00:14] <TheNoodle> Ahhhk, we don't do modding in here.
#94 [00:14] <kguvuoi> i fall to the void
#95 [00:14] <TheNoodle> Sounds like a connection issue tbh.
#96 [00:14] <kguvuoi> the chat dose not work
#97 [00:14] <kguvuoi> i have tried a lot
#98 [00:14] <Ahhhk> okie
#99 [00:14] <kguvuoi> and have a fresh minecraft
#100 [00:14] <TheNoodle> mib_a7slo6m we don't support cracked minecraft in here, continue to discuss it and you'll be kicked.
#101 [00:15] <Sardonicus> only kicked....?
#102 [00:15] <TheNoodle> I can't ban :D
#103 [00:16] <Sardonicus> forgot
#104 [00:16] <kguvuoi> my net is reasonable and being an administrator its getting fustrating
#105 [00:16] <mib_a7slo6> IM NOT USING CRACKED MC. I BOGHT MINE BUT ITS NOT WORKING
#106 [00:16] <Sardonicus> well but I found some better channel now than #minecraft which is #mcchatter
#107 [00:16] <mib_a7slo6> I WANNA KNOW WHY
#108 [00:16] <kguvuoi> and other people can get on the server
#109 [00:20] <TheNoodle> kguvuoi, I'm not sure, your problem really does sound like it's your connection.
#110 [00:20] <TheNoodle> and mib_a7slo6 is silly >.>
#111 [00:20] * Sardonicus looks around like a predator
#111 [00:20] * Sardonicus licks his paw
#111 [00:20] * TheNoodle pokes Sardonicus in the eye
#111 [00:20] * Sardonicus roars like an ancient fire dragon
#111 [00:21] <kguvuoi> cheers noodle i will look into it further. want me to come back if its something weird?
#112 [00:21] * Sardonicus impales The Noodle on his mighty dragon sword
#112 [00:21] <TheNoodle> That would be awesome kguvuoi.
#113 [00:21] * TheNoodle types !kick
#113 [00:22] * Sardonicus can't be kicked by minions (impuls is constant)
#113 [00:22] * TheNoodle can't kick Sardonicus because it would be an abuse of his 'powers'
#113 [00:23] * PerfectPhoenix [PerfectPhoenix@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#114 [00:23] * Sardonicus delusive powers of the drug addicted :D
#114 [00:23] <Sardonicus> oh damn
#115 [00:23] <Sardonicus> that wasn't even a /me structure
#116 [00:23] <PerfectPhoenix> Hey guys. Thanks for the help! Minecraft is working fine!
#117 [00:25] <TheNoodle> lol
#118 [00:26] <Sardonicus> well I can't sleep anymore
#119 [00:26] <Sardonicus> just slept for 3 hours
#120 [00:27] <Sardonicus> and not much going on in the chats as the US people already get into bed but the Europeans not out of bed yet
#121 [00:27] <kguvuoi> i'm australian
#122 [00:27] <kguvuoi> lol
#123 [00:27] <Sardonicus> like TheNoodle
#124 [00:28] <TheNoodle> \o
#125 [00:28] <Sardonicus> I like to look up IPs as a hobby.
#126 [00:29] * downer [downer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#127 [00:29] <TheNoodle> my client does it automatically.
#128 [00:29] <Sardonicus> ah which client is it?
#129 [00:29] <Sardonicus> Noodle is at Perth and kguvuoi at Melbourne
#130 [00:29] <TheNoodle> modded icechat
#131 [00:30] <kguvuoi> mmmmmhmmmm
#132 [00:30] <kguvuoi> ther server i connect to is brisi btw
#133 [00:31] <Sardonicus> oh lol
#134 [00:31] <Sardonicus> the one town Ararat first looked like Arafat
#135 [00:32] <Sardonicus> *lol* @ Toowoomba
#136 [00:32] <Sardonicus> or Cunnamulla
#137 [00:32] <Sardonicus> funny names
#138 [00:33] <kguvuoi> well i just tried logging again
#139 [00:33] <kguvuoi> and there was tnt through the air
#140 [00:33] <kguvuoi> ???
#141 [00:33] <kguvuoi> 0_o
#142 [00:34] <kguvuoi> maybe my mate set off some huge tnt near me
#143 [00:34] <kguvuoi> what a weiner
#144 [00:34] <TheNoodle> lol
#145 [00:34] <Sardonicus> :D
#146 [00:34] <Sardonicus> wiener
#147 [00:35] <Sardonicus> TheNoodle, what size is the icechat-setup.exe?
#148 [00:36] <TheNoodle> no idea
#149 [00:36] <kguvuoi> 180.189.155.216
#150 [00:36] <kguvuoi> try joining in a minute
#151 [00:42] * Sardonicus yawns in a draconian majestic way
#151 [00:44] * lemon-rev [lemon-rev@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#152 [00:44] <lemon-rev> et
#153 [00:45] <Sardonicus> Hi Reverend Lemon!
#154 [00:45] <lemon-rev> lol
#155 [00:46] <lemon-rev> never will i be a reverend lol
#156 [00:46] <Sardonicus> This Oscar face t shirt costs 27,9 Euro...
#157 [00:47] * DarkSkyes [DarkSkyes@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#158 [00:51] <Sardonicus> Hehe I found an image of Reverend Lemon :)
#159 [00:51] <lemon-rev> lol,
#160 [00:52] <Sardonicus> http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/reverend-samuel-runt-248775.jpg?1268296656
#161 [00:52] * lemon-rev cant even laugh at that, makes me cry
#161 [00:52] <Thrae> I always thought it was a revision of a lemon.
#162 [00:53] <Sardonicus> mmhh what you're no man of god?
#163 [00:53] <lemon-rev> nope
#164 [00:54] <Sardonicus> *lol* pretender
#165 [00:54] <lemon-rev> not even close
#166 [00:54] <TheNoodle> wat.
#167 [00:54] <Thrae> I liked the Pretender TV series.
#168 [00:54] <lemon-rev> same
#169 [01:03] <Sardonicus> Mh i'm looking for a certain sermon, but I just can't find it.
#170 [01:17] * Somebody [Somebody@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#171 [01:22] * Sardonicus [Sardonicus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#172 [01:28] * Trel [Trel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#173 [01:28] <Trel> What is the distance from the player when minecraft starts to generate new chunks?
#174 [01:31] * Sardonicus slaps TheNoodle with a big red brick
#174 [01:31] <Sardonicus> Oh just found that in IceChat.
#175 [01:32] <TheNoodle> lol
#176 [01:32] * TheNoodle slaps Sardonicus with a rainbow trout
#176 [01:32] <Sardonicus> have that one too
#177 [01:32] * TheNoodle nods
#177 [01:32] <Sardonicus> Can you add your personal ones?
#178 [01:32] * TheNoodle slaps Sardonicus with a small child
#178 [01:33] <TheNoodle> Yes, not sure how though.
#179 [01:33] <Sardonicus> just found it
#180 [01:35] * pybro [pybro@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#181 [01:36] <pybro> hello, anyone here?
#182 [01:36] * Sardonicus slaps TheNoodle with a sock full of toenails
#182 [01:36] <Sardonicus> haha :D
#183 [01:36] <pybro> can anyone help me?
#184 [01:36] <pybro> :c
#185 [01:37] <Sardonicus> Why isn't the rainbow in color though? In the command line there are color commands
#186 [01:37] <Sardonicus> pybro, what's your problem?
#187 [01:38] <pybro> I'm on an ubuntu version of my computer and I want to access the server lists that would normally be in windows
#188 [01:38] <pybro> where would the servers be stored?
#189 [01:38] <pybro> I checked in appdata
#190 [01:38] * mau5ie [mau5ie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#191 [01:38] <Sardonicus> don't know :S
#192 [01:38] <pybro> perhaps someone else does
#193 [01:38] <pybro> T.T
#194 [01:39] * mib_651ho1 [mib_651ho1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#195 [01:39] * Sardonicus slaps &nick with a dead pigeon
#195 [01:39] <Sardonicus> damn lol
#196 [01:39] <pybro> do you know anyone who could help
#197 [01:40] <iceman8628> Hey ; I was wondering if anyone could help me out
#198 [01:40] * Sardonicus slaps pybro with a dead pigeon
#198 [01:40] <Sardonicus> No I don't.
#199 [01:40] <TheNoodle> What's the problem iceman8628?
#200 [01:40] <iceman8628> Whenever I play minecraft multiplayer I get Huge gaps missing in the map where I see static mobs and can see through the earth and the layout
#201 [01:40] <iceman8628> But whenever I try to run through the gap
#202 [01:40] <iceman8628> My character then becomes static and looks like hes spamming jump
#203 [01:40] <iceman8628> so I have to disconnect and reconnect
#204 [01:41] <iceman8628> Do you know what the reasoning is behind this?
#205 [01:42] <TheNoodle> Sounds like the chunks haven't loaded properly, mind connecting to aggression.bowlofnoodles.net and tell me if hte problem occurs there?
#206 [01:42] <iceman8628> Yeah one sec.
#207 [01:44] <iceman8628> Im on
#208 [01:45] * BlackGyver [BlackGyver@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#209 [01:45] <TheNoodle> is the same problem occuring?
#210 [01:46] <iceman8628> Nope
#211 [01:47] <TheNoodle> Then it sounds like it's a problem on that server.
#212 [01:47] <TheNoodle> One moment.
#213 [01:47] * Sardonicus slaps TheNoodle with his iron dumbbell
#213 [01:47] <iceman8628> why does it occur only to me?
#214 [01:47] <TheNoodle> Don't highlight me if you don't need to >.>
#215 [01:48] <TheNoodle> iceman8628, could I get the ip of the server the problem occurs on?
#216 [01:48] <iceman8628> The server is currently offline but...
#217 [01:49] <iceman8628> 95.89.76.237:25565
#218 [01:49] <TheNoodle> I'm not connecting :P
#219 [01:50] <TheNoodle> Okay, so that server is in germany, the server I got you to join is in france.
#220 [01:50] <TheNoodle> So it doesn't seem to be a problem with the routing on your end, I'd blame the server.
#221 [01:53] <Sardonicus> $os
#222 [01:55] <iceman8628> Hm
#223 [01:55] <iceman8628> Thanks Noodle!
#224 [01:55] <iceman8628> The host of the server I usually play on says his computer lags up a bit whenver I disconnect
#225 [01:55] <iceman8628> if that means anything
#226 [01:55] <TheNoodle> wait
#227 [01:55] <TheNoodle> he's hosting it on his home pc?
#228 [01:56] <TheNoodle> Sardonicus, never bothered changing that...
#229 [01:56] <TheNoodle> :)
#230 [01:56] <Sardonicus> What about me?
#231 [01:56] <Sardonicus> the OS?
#232 [01:57] <TheNoodle> you versioned me :p
#233 [01:57] <Sardonicus> What?
#234 [01:58] <Sardonicus> I entered the command to see if it shows my os
#235 [01:58] <Sardonicus> but it only entered it into chat
#236 [01:58] <TheNoodle> "[13:55] [Sardonicus] VERSION"
#237 [01:58] <Sardonicus> not on my screen
#238 [01:58] <Sardonicus> ah yes that i can see
#239 [01:58] <TheNoodle> when I version you I get "[Sardonicus VERSION Reply] : IceChat 7.70 20101031"
#240 [01:59] <Sardonicus> well on my screen only is "[07:52] <Sardonicus> $os"
#241 [01:59] <iceman8628> Yeah hes hosting it from his home PC
#242 [02:00] <TheNoodle> iceman8628, that's probably why tbh.
#243 [02:05] <Sardonicus> Hehe, TheNoodle, I've registered my own channel!
#244 [02:05] <TheNoodle> lol
#245 [02:06] <TheNoodle> +s ?
#246 [02:07] * Corporal_Dirge [Corporal_Dirge@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#247 [02:07] <Sardonicus> Not secret
#248 [02:07] <TheNoodle> lol...
#249 [02:07] <TheNoodle> I managed to whois myself instead of you the first time.
#250 [02:08] <Sardonicus> mh I was about to give you voice... ;)
#251 [02:08] <TheNoodle> lol
#252 [02:08] <Sardonicus> I'm so benevolent
#253 [02:08] <Sardonicus> So voice also gives the right to kick usually?
#254 [02:09] <TheNoodle> Nope
#255 [02:09] <TheNoodle> Voice doesn't give anything
#256 [02:09] <Sardonicus> but here it does?
#257 [02:09] <TheNoodle> Nope
#258 [02:09] <Sardonicus> You can't even kick=
#259 [02:09] <TheNoodle> Assigned per name
#260 [02:09] <TheNoodle> which is why I can kick when not voiced
#261 [02:09] <Sardonicus> Ah ok... how to do that?
#262 [02:09] <TheNoodle> I kick through aubot.
#263 [02:10] <TheNoodle> because aubot loves me.
#264 [02:10] <mauZzz> o/
#265 [02:10] <Sardonicus> Ok a Bot.
#266 [02:10] <Sardonicus> So I need a Bot for my empty channel ^^
#267 [02:10] <TheNoodle> hmmm
#268 [02:10] <TheNoodle> botserv and +r should work
#269 [02:10] <TheNoodle> I think
#270 [02:10] <Sardonicus> What means +r?
#271 [02:11] <TheNoodle> "+r - Enables use of the kick, kickban, ban and unban commands."
#272 [02:11] <Sardonicus> I also have to configure the bot.
#273 [02:12] * TheNoodle shrugs
#273 [02:12] <TheNoodle> pretty easy.
#274 [02:12] <Sardonicus> Ah so they use bans to give people right to kick but not to unban.
#275 [02:12] <Sardonicus> *use bots
#276 [02:12] <Sardonicus> Otherwise they just could have done +r TheNoodle
#277 [02:13] <TheNoodle> mmhm
#278 [02:13] <TheNoodle> I'm only a #mchelp helper, not an op.
#279 [02:13] <TheNoodle> Hence I don't need ban/unban etc.
#280 [02:13] <Sardonicus> #mchelp is another channel
#281 [02:13] <Sardonicus> you mean minecrafthelp :D
#282 [02:13] <TheNoodle> hmmm
#283 [02:14] <TheNoodle> It used to redirect here.
#284 [02:14] <Sardonicus> well it said only joining per invitation
#285 [02:15] <TheNoodle> meh, when I say mchelp I mean minecrafthelp
#286 [02:15] <Sardonicus> I see the botlist right now
#287 [02:16] <Sardonicus> so they have different characters?
#288 [02:16] <Sardonicus> Or only different names?
#289 [02:18] <TheNoodle> ?
#290 [02:18] <TheNoodle> Which bots?
#291 [02:18] <Sardonicus> espernet bots
#292 [02:18] <TheNoodle> Esperbots don't have characters, they're purly command driven.
#293 [02:19] <TheNoodle> Aubot, Vox and Wugbot are hosted by ops in this channel.
#294 [02:19] <TheNoodle> And greybot ^_^
#295 [02:20] <Sardonicus> Well somehow it doesn't take the name of the bot
#296 [02:22] <Sardonicus> I enter "/msg BotServ INFO <#Sardonicus>" and it says "Insufficient parameters for INFO."
#297 [02:22] <Sardonicus> but the syntax is correct
#298 [02:22] <Sardonicus> ok lol damn...
#299 [02:23] <TheNoodle> lol
#300 [02:24] <TheNoodle> let's take this to your channel, if anyone needs help, just say so.
#301 [02:42] * Kaito [Kaito@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#302 [02:43] * Patze [Patze@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#303 [02:45] * mib_prakgo [mib_prakgo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#304 [02:46] * Grim_Reaper [Grim_Reaper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#305 [02:50] * almostro_ [almostro_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#306 [02:53] * m0nk [m0nk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#307 [02:53] * mib_rhkscg [mib_rhkscg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#308 [02:57] * mib_721tjm [mib_721tjm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#309 [02:58] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#310 [02:58] * TheReddeH [TheReddeH@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#311 [02:59] <mib_721tjm> i just purchased minecraft but when i try to join a server im unable to play. i see a black screen and i have a feeling that i don't have the correct software version on my mac
#312 [02:59] <mib_721tjm> what should i do?
#313 [02:59] <mib_721tjm> don't want to purchase the newer software version for mac
#314 [03:01] * Iguana [Iguana@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#315 [03:02] * TheNoodle pokes Iguana
#315 [03:02] * TheNoodle runs
#315 [03:07] * guest-0-70309 [guest-0-70309@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#316 [03:08] <guest-0-70309> hello?
#317 [03:09] <TheNoodle> Hello.
#318 [03:09] <guest-0-70309> with so many people i though it would be move lively XD
#319 [03:10] <TheNoodle> Most are idling atm, the us has gone to bed and the eu hasn't really woken up :P
#320 [03:10] <TheNoodle> + quiet is good, this is a support channel.
#321 [03:10] * Keltinray [Keltinray@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#322 [03:10] <guest-0-70309> would u happen to know how bookshelf works for enchanting?
#323 [03:11] <TheNoodle> No idea, haven't bothered with any of the pre releases.
#324 [03:11] <guest-0-70309> k k
#325 [03:11] <TheNoodle> you could try #minecraft
#326 [03:12] * pachuco [pachuco@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#327 [03:15] * Sardonicus slaps TheNoodle with a dead pigeon
#327 [03:16] <TheNoodle> bah
#328 [03:16] <TheNoodle> I'm off to bed
#329 [03:16] <TheNoodle> night guys!
#330 [03:16] <Sardonicus> bye
#331 [03:16] <TheNoodle> go away vox.
#332 [03:16] <TheNoodle> :P
#333 [03:17] <guest-0-70309> night
#334 [03:18] * Tucker [Tucker@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#335 [03:19] * |Kiikun|Janus| [|Kiikun|Janus|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#336 [03:21] * fizyplankton [fizyplankton@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#337 [03:24] * Opeth [Opeth@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#338 [03:28] * Valerie [Valerie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#339 [03:30] * ylluminate [ylluminate@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#340 [03:33] * iDominateU [iDominateU@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#341 [03:35] * chrisward [chrisward@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#342 [03:36] * Luundin [Luundin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#343 [03:46] * Iridium [Iridium@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#344 [03:47] <Iridium> do regular mobs spawn in a sime farm?
#345 [03:47] <Iridium> or just slimes?
#346 [03:50] <petern> depends how you build your slime farm...
#347 [03:50] <Iridium> i didn't realise there was more than one way
#348 [03:51] <chrisward> is it lit up?
#349 [03:51] <Iridium> i haven't built it yet
#350 [03:51] <chrisward> is it lit up?
#351 [03:52] <Iridium> once i've built it it prob wont be, since i want hostile mobs too
#352 [03:52] <chrisward> then it'll spawn the bad ones too
#353 [03:52] * Ninemmtylenol [Ninemmtylenol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#354 [03:53] <petern> i think most people tend to keep them separate
#355 [03:56] <Iridium> hmm
#356 [03:57] <Iridium> i got an area 2x2 chunks with 2 slime chunks
#357 [03:57] <Luundin> wtf
#358 [03:57] <Iridium> could i not have mobs in the other 2?
#359 [03:57] <Luundin> i guess
#360 [03:58] <Luundin> Not sure tho
#361 [03:58] <petern> you can have mobs in all
#362 [03:58] <petern> it just makes getting to the slimes and getting slimeballs harder
#363 [03:58] <Luundin> How do i find slimes the best way=
#364 [03:58] <Luundin> ?
#365 [03:59] <Luundin> I can barely found them
#366 [03:59] <Iridium> http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fmcslimes.appspot.com%2F&session_token=6em-VlsMBEe6sN4vvA6-qEL-Jkp8MTMxODY2NTIwOUAxMzE4NTc4ODA5
#367 [03:59] <Iridium> oops
#368 [03:59] <Iridium> http://mcslimes.appspot.com/index.jsp
#369 [03:59] <Iridium> that one :P
#370 [03:59] <Luundin> Wow ty!
#371 [03:59] <Iridium> yw
#372 [04:00] <petern> yeah, if you like to cheat ;)
#373 [04:00] <Iridium> so if i had mobs would the slimes drown slower or just spawn less?
#374 [04:19] * Jupss [Jupss@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#375 [04:20] <Jupss> my minecraftsp version lets me get the game up, load the game then closes it self help please
#376 [04:20] <Jupss> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ILLEGAL_INSTRUCTION (0xc000001d) at pc=0x4dc1e9d3, pid=2928, tid=548
#377 [04:22] * Iridium [Iridium@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#378 [04:32] * plomp [plomp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#379 [04:35] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#380 [04:36] <Luundin> Is it legal to play xray TexturePack on online servers?
#381 [04:38] <unitcross> probably not, but who cares if you're trying to cheat
#382 [04:38] <unitcross> gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette
#383 [04:39] <petern> "legal" ?
#384 [04:40] <unitcross> i think he means a bannable offense
#385 [04:42] <Luundin> Yeah, well i agree with unitcross. Gotta break a dew eggs to make an omelette :)
#386 [04:46] <petern> it's a slippery slope, cheating
#387 [04:46] <petern> next you'll have the xray mod instead...
#388 [04:47] <petern> and fly hacks...
#389 [04:50] <unitcross> i play with xray
#390 [04:50] <unitcross> to me it just saves time
#391 [04:50] <unitcross> otherwise nothing different
#392 [04:50] <unitcross> flying is cheating though
#393 [05:01] <SinZ> xray is classed as hacks
#394 [05:09] * Malvburo [Malvburo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#395 [05:17] * Danroth3 [Danroth3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#396 [05:19] <Trel> What is the distance from the player when minecraft starts to generate new chunks?
#397 [05:25] * Oerg866 [Oerg866@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#398 [05:31] * iDominateU [iDominateU@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#399 [05:32] * TehPinkyy [TehPinkyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#400 [05:41] * ebonicmaser [ebonicmaser@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#401 [05:42] <ebonicmaser> hello all. I am having a problem with the game jsut randomly closing itself out. is there a log file anywhere with error reports?
#402 [05:44] <Chris> hs_err_pid_**** on your desktop usually is
#403 [05:44] * has400 [has400@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#404 [05:45] <Chris> if you use the jar file and run it in command prompt it should show you the error
#405 [05:46] <ebonicmaser> i am running the mincraft launcher
#406 [05:46] <Chris> the exe or the jar
#407 [05:46] <ebonicmaser> exe
#408 [05:46] <ebonicmaser> this is the game, not the server
#409 [05:47] <has400> My minecraft renders the water purple and has like yellowy boxs around flowers and like each block has wierd yellow coating on the edges...
#410 [05:47] <Chris> I know... if you download the jar and run it through command prompt (java -jar C:/Users/Herpa/Downloads/minecraft.jar) then it should give you the error
#411 [05:47] <Chris> has, make sure everyhting is up to date
#412 [05:47] <ebonicmaser> Thanks chris, I'll try that
#413 [05:48] <has400> My video cards?
#414 [05:48] <Chris> java too, but yes, mostly your video card
#415 [05:54] * has400 [has400@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#416 [05:57] <Ninemmtylenol> Sup?
#417 [05:57] * has400 [has400@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#418 [05:58] <has400> ok my video card drivers and java are up 2 date but i still get the wierd lines
#419 [05:59] <ebonicmaser> which jar am I looking for chris, the only one I see is listed under the server files. Is this the one?
#420 [06:00] * Hisui_ [Hisui_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#421 [06:00] <Chris> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#422 [06:01] * Coll [Coll@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#423 [06:04] <ebonicmaser> could you explain to me how to run the file? do I need to do it from the command line, or the run line?
#424 [06:07] <Chris> in cmd, type "cd "<location to where you downloaded the jar to>" <enter> "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#425 [06:11] <ebonicmaser> all I get is java not recognized. I do have java installed
#426 [06:13] <Chris> ah sorry, type "C:/Program Files/Java/jre6/bin/java.exe" insead of java
#427 [06:13] * WTFWatch [WTFWatch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#428 [06:14] * Morrolan [Morrolan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#429 [06:22] <ebonicmaser> cd\
#430 [06:22] <ebonicmaser> oops wrong box lol
#431 [06:22] * MuumiJumala [MuumiJumala@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#432 [06:25] * Diablodoct0r [Diablodoct0r@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#433 [06:38] * acky [acky@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#434 [06:41] * Derf51 [Derf51@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#435 [06:42] * Morrolan|2 [Morrolan|2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#436 [06:44] <Derf51> looking for answers to the dreraded java error EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005)
#437 [06:46] <Morrolan|2> derp?
#438 [06:46] <Derf51> \Derf
#439 [06:46] * plomp [plomp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#440 [06:46] <Morrolan|2> How did I manage to connect twice :S
#441 [06:47] <Derf51> you timed out and disconnected and auto reconnected
#442 [06:47] <Morrolan|2> I guess so, yea.
#443 [06:47] * HariboPenguin [HariboPenguin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#444 [06:50] <Derf51> so how about it. has anyone experienced and solved the java error EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) on start-up of MInecraft
#445 [06:51] <Morrolan> Well, if you're on a 64 bit OS you could try to install 64 bit Java, if you didn't yet.
#446 [06:51] <Derf51> yes, Vista 64 and I have both 32bit and 64bit Java installed
#447 [06:52] * GreyVulpine kicks Morrolan, "Get the full error report first?"
#447 [06:52] * Morrolan pushes GreyVulpine
#447 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> And it's video drivers, it's always video drivers
#448 [06:52] <Morrolan> He's all yours. :D
#449 [06:52] <Morrolan> Ok. ;)
#450 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> Derf51 - Please copy the entirety of the error report, paste it at www.pastebin.com, submit it, and give us the URL to it please
#451 [06:53] <Derf51> I have a pair HD4870x2 cards under crossfire with the latest driver available
#452 [06:53] <Morrolan> Could have sworn that there was some Exception Access violation which was related with the Java installation though. :/
#453 [06:53] <Morrolan> Maybe just my brain messing with me. OH well
#454 [06:53] <Morrolan> Oh*
#455 [06:54] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#456 [06:54] <Derf51> stand by for error report
#457 [06:54] <Derf51> ...though it doesn't vart much from any of the others I have seen posted
#458 [06:54] <Derf51> *vary
#459 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> Let us be the judge of that
#460 [06:55] * Iguana [Iguana@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#461 [06:58] * Thayli [Thayli@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#462 [07:01] <Derf51> if I have survived the learning curve of the pastebin try http://pastebin.com/QYxv49ap
#463 [07:03] <GreyVulpine> Looks right. Two things, have you done a complete uninstall and reinstall of java? Also, when did you last update your video drivers, and from where?
#464 [07:03] <Derf51> Yes, cxomplete uninstall and reinstall of Java. Video drivers within the last 48 hours....amd.com
#465 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> Could I get a dxdiag from you?
#466 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> ??> Derf51 win/dxdiag
#467 [07:06] <VoxelHead> Derf51: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#468 [07:06] <VoxelHead> Derf51: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#469 [07:07] <Derf51> standby
#470 [07:10] <Derf51> goes quicker when you have done something before.....http://pastebin.com/TJNM6aEZ
#471 [07:10] * GM [GM@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#472 [07:10] <Derf51> note: I have trouble with any other application
#473 [07:10] <Derf51> oops....no other trouble
#474 [07:12] <GreyVulpine> Alright, let's start from the top here, did you mod or install any HD texture packs on minecraft? Have you done a complete reinstall of the minecraft files by going to %appdata%/.minecraft and deleting everything there but the saves folder
#475 [07:12] <Derf51> ...including Lineage2 which is another java based application
#476 [07:13] <GreyVulpine> If so, the next step here is to completely wipe java (again), try using javaRA to completely remove all traces of java from your system, and try installing only the 64 bit version of java.
#477 [07:13] <GreyVulpine> You can find javaRA from:
#478 [07:13] <GreyVulpine> ??> Derf51 win/javaRA
#479 [07:13] <VoxelHead> Derf51: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#480 [07:13] <VoxelHead> Derf51: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#481 [07:14] * downer [downer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#482 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> Those video drivers look pretty up to date, but if the problem still exists, please uninstall your ATI drivers from the control panel, and do a full reinstall using the drivers from: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_vista-64.aspx
#483 [07:16] * |Kiikun| [|Kiikun|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#484 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> The stacktrace there, I'm leaning towards video drivers, but it's always a good idea to take care of the easy stuff first
#485 [07:17] <Derf51> This will take a while but note that though IE 64bit is avaiablemy primary use is IE32 bit which they are independent of each other under java and will require installation of both versions
#486 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> It is possible to only install 64 bit java.
#487 [07:18] <GreyVulpine> ?? java
#488 [07:18] <VoxelHead> java: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#489 [07:18] <VoxelHead> java: Other versions of java: Version 6: ?? getjre/6u27, ?? getjdk/6u27 | Version 7: ?? getjre/7u1, ?? getjdk/7u1
#490 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> And yes, I do know that you need 32 bit java to have the java plugin in 32 bit browsers, you can install only the 64 bit java to play the downloaded client
#491 [07:19] <Derf51> I have 6/27 and never installed the v7 which was pulled as the recommended
#492 [07:20] * Danroth3 [Danroth3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#493 [07:21] <Derf51> If I go to that trouble of uninstalling and making by 32bit IE handicpped then my other solution is to do what I have been doing which is to use another system. I have several and the alternate system is WinXP 32bit SP2and minecrafty runs fine there...just not my primary system
#494 [07:22] * Ninemmtylenol [Ninemmtylenol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#495 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> I'm not saying you can't install 32bit java, this is just to make sure only one version of java is being installed, as to narrow down the problem, and prevent corruption of multiple java installs being the culprit
#496 [07:24] <Derf51> In that case, I have already tried what your suggesting and eventually put the installation back to what it was with bot installed. I tried first only the 32bit, then only the 64 bit separately.
#497 [07:25] <Derf51> From what I have seen on other posting in various forums, this seems to be a common problem. Every keeps jumping on the java/video driver solution
#498 [07:25] <GreyVulpine> The majority of these problems stem from either a java or a video driver issue.
#499 [07:26] <GreyVulpine> I don't think yours is any different
#500 [07:27] <Derf51> I acknowledge and have pursued that. note that I am an IT professional with 35 years in the business. It is my opinion that here is another solution lurking out there. I was just hoping that you had a little more inside knowledge of the the application than I.
#501 [07:29] <Derf51> example...are you aware that SQL applications under java can cause the same error/ MS has several reports and solutions on that
#502 [07:30] <Derf51> Without reverse engineering MineCraft I can only assume that it manipulATES THE ENVIRONMENT THRU sql WHICH IS HOW lINEAGE DOES IT.
#503 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't use SQL
#504 [07:30] <Derf51> fat fingers keep hitting the caps key....sry
#505 [07:31] <Derf51> Well, it will take a little while to work thru your solution. Thanx for your time......
#506 [07:31] <GreyVulpine> The stack trace, is showing me that java is throwing an error at: org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.create(Lorg/lwjgl/opengl/PixelFormat;)V+9
#507 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> Which is almost always a video driver issue
#508 [07:34] <Derf51> I saw that just it's that Minecraft seems to be the only opengl application that is having an issue with it. If its the video driver, I'm feeling that I need to go back some versions to find one that works. The other machine where it works does not have the latest version video drivers. But then I am going to have issues with other applications that had problems with older drivers
#509 [07:34] <Derf51> and don't have p[roblems with the present on. (sigh)
#510 [07:35] * BlackGyver [BlackGyver@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#511 [07:35] * |Kiikun| wonders if an lwjgl update might help?
#511 [07:36] <Derf51> lwjgl??
#512 [07:37] <GreyVulpine> lightweight java gaming library, it's what minecraft uses
#513 [07:37] * mrcn_pl [mrcn_pl@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#514 [07:37] <GreyVulpine> It's worth a shot I suppose. Minecraft packages an older version of lwjgl, which there's several versions newer now...
#515 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> Instructions: http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#516 [07:38] <Derf51> sounds like a client update, not my system??
#517 [07:38] <mrcn_pl> I need help, my account status went from premium to not premium with no reason, what can I do?!
#518 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> You can force an update by manually downloading the lwjgl independently and replacing the files that minecraft downloads
#519 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> mrcn_pl - Where did you buy minecraft from?
#520 [07:38] <mrcn_pl> mmoga
#521 [07:39] <Derf51> nite gentlemen
#522 [07:39] <|Kiikun|> .... wtf is mmoga?
#523 [07:39] * GreyVulpine waves
#523 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> Not minecraft.net, that's for sure
#524 [07:39] <mrcn_pl> it's a site to buy game keys, such as wow guild wars and so on
#525 [07:39] <mrcn_pl> but two of my friends bot their keys there as well
#526 [07:39] <|Kiikun|> mrcn_pl: it also sounds like a massive scam.
#527 [07:39] <mrcn_pl> and they are not banned
#528 [07:40] <mrcn_pl> so that might be a mistake or so...i mean we bought them from the same site...me banned, they are not
#529 [07:41] <|Kiikun|> mrcn_pl: you should only ever buy from minecraft.net.
#530 [07:41] <mrcn_pl> i also bought wow there, that cannot be the reason
#531 [07:41] <mrcn_pl> it's just like getting a gift code by a friend
#532 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> mrcn_pl - How much did you pay for the minecraft gift code?
#533 [07:42] <|Kiikun|> its listed there for 15 usd
#534 [07:42] <mrcn_pl> it's 11€
#535 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> Then you got scammed
#536 [07:42] * |Kiikun| calls SCAM since its a gamegold-selling site
#536 [07:42] <GreyVulpine> Know how I know?
#537 [07:43] <|Kiikun|> they make their 'discount' by screwing over a percentage of their buyers
#538 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.net sells gift codes for 15 euros. There are no authorized reseller sites. Where's the profit in selling a gift code for cheaper than the listed price?
#539 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> Ask yourself that
#540 [07:48] * Urughak [Urughak@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#541 [07:58] * guest-791897-29960 [guest-791897-29960@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#542 [07:59] <guest-791897-29960> Has anyone here only downloaded the bin folder while downloading minecraft?
#543 [08:00] <GreyVulpine> Could be your AV or security software blocking minecraft from downloading
#544 [08:00] <GreyVulpine> We have seen a few reports of AVG/mcafee among others, throwing false positives
#545 [08:01] <guest-791897-29960> It can't have been because I've downloaded before and it worked fine.
#546 [08:01] <GreyVulpine> Could you go back into /.minecraft and delete everything there but the saves folder?
#547 [08:07] * mudkip1123 [mudkip1123@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#548 [08:08] <mudkip1123> What does rcon mean?
#549 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> remote console
#550 [08:09] <mudkip1123> That sounds unbelievably cool
#551 [08:09] <mudkip1123> what do I use to connect to it?
#552 [08:10] <Chris> ssh <3
#553 [08:10] <mudkip1123> awesome
#554 [08:10] <mudkip1123> thanks
#555 [08:10] * Tanjoodo [Tanjoodo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#556 [08:10] <guest-791897-29960> I still get the bin folder by itself.
#557 [08:11] <Chris> does it fill the bin folder?
#558 [08:12] <guest-791897-29960> No.
#559 [08:12] <Chris> and did you try the force update?
#560 [08:12] <guest-791897-29960> Yes.
#561 [08:13] <Chris> that is very, very wierd...
#562 [08:13] * Allison [Allison@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#563 [08:14] * pico [pico@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#564 [08:14] <guest-791897-29960> I thought so myself, my first conclusion was that maybe Notch might have stopped people who have downloaded it before from getting all the files they should already have but now I'm not so sure.
#565 [08:15] * m0nk [m0nk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#566 [08:16] <|Kiikun|> guest-791897-29960: as grey said, its usually antivirus... sometimes in java or your video drivers (STILL dont understand the video drivers one.. but it works sometimes)
#567 [08:18] <guest-791897-29960> Thanks for helping anywaty.
#568 [08:21] <|Kiikun|> ... even more reason to hate that site... "Java needs to be installed on your system if you want to play Minecraft.
#569 [08:21] <|Kiikun|> As the game is graphically not very elaborate, even older computer models should be able to run this game.
#570 [08:21] <|Kiikun|> yeeeaaahhh...
#571 [08:21] * |Kiikun| calls idiots AND bullshit
#571 [08:21] <Chris> as long as their video card is half decent, I can't play it on my other computer's onboard
#572 [08:22] <|Kiikun|> onboard usualy means intel..
#573 [08:22] <|Kiikun|> and intel blows chunks on opengl support
#574 [08:22] <GreyVulpine> SiS and S3 any better? :P
#575 [08:23] <|Kiikun|> cant say, never had a sis.. and i likes my s3 back when i had use of it :D
#576 [08:24] <GreyVulpine> I mean.. look at the awesome usage of that PCB space.. http://www.s3graphics.com/image/home_r5_c5.jpg
#577 [08:24] <|Kiikun|> . . . oook...
#578 [08:25] <|Kiikun|> maybe they went downhill since the savage
#579 [08:25] * oldtopman [oldtopman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#580 [08:25] * GreyVulpine snrks
#580 [08:30] * murdrums [murdrums@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#581 [08:57] * Pulec [Pulec@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#582 [08:57] * paul_k [paul_k@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#583 [09:00] * OctopusPrime [OctopusPrime@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#584 [09:02] <GreyVulpine> !weather hell
#585 [09:02] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: From Cobblestone Creek, Pinckney, Michigan (8:59a Oct 14 11) temp(54.2 F / 12.3 C) cond(Rain) wind(North at 0.0 mph / 0.0 km/h) hu(93%) dewpnt(52 F / 11 C) bp(29.39 in / 995.1 hPa (Steady)) clouds(Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 3100 ft / 944 m, Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 4900 ft / 1493 m, Overcast (OVC) : 8000 ft / 2438 m) vis(10.0 miles / 16.1 kilometers) uv(0 out of 16)
#586 [09:02] <GreyBot> Today: Breezy. Occasional showers. Highs 54 to 58. West winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.
#587 [09:06] * CruelNoise [CruelNoise@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#588 [09:10] * Tanjoodo [Tanjoodo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#589 [09:12] * Urughak [Urughak@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#590 [09:17] * self_slaughter [self_slaughter@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#591 [09:24] * RobinJ [RobinJ@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#592 [09:28] * MK [MK@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#593 [09:28] * ArchonDuPlex [ArchonDuPlex@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#594 [09:28] <ArchonDuPlex> hello?
#595 [09:29] <ArchonDuPlex> I kinda need help :p
#596 [09:30] <ArchonDuPlex> hello?
#597 [09:37] <Opeth> ?? payment
#598 [09:37] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#599 [09:37] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#600 [09:48] * Chris [Chris@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#601 [09:50] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#602 [09:53] * bildramer [bildramer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#603 [10:07] * noobguy [noobguy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#604 [10:07] <noobguy> hello?
#605 [10:07] <Chris> hi
#606 [10:07] <noobguy> anyones client saying cant connect?
#607 [10:13] <noobguy> hello?
#608 [10:13] <noobguy> guess not
#609 [10:13] <Sinistrahd> nope
#610 [10:13] <Sinistrahd> but keep trying
#611 [10:13] <Sinistrahd> sometimes the auth servers are overloaded
#612 [10:14] <noobguy> stopped working yesterday
#613 [10:14] <noobguy> so i left it till today
#614 [10:16] <noobguy> hmm detelted .minecraft fixed it
#615 [10:21] * aetherian [aetherian@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#616 [10:24] * grosronan [grosronan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#617 [10:26] * Away|2k10 [Away|2k10@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#618 [10:27] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#619 [10:28] * AuBot` [AuBot`@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#620 [10:28] * GV [GV@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#621 [10:28] * Zyf_Lappy [Zyf_Lappy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#622 [10:28] * Blacker47 [Blacker47@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#623 [10:28] * Mexiemeal [Mexiemeal@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#624 [10:28] * slide_ [slide_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#625 [10:28] * CruelNoise [CruelNoise@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#626 [10:28] <SinZ> may I ask why there is a guest with op?
#627 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> Probably just somebody who has nick protection on, and got nick-changed
#628 [10:30] <MuumiJumala> probably just you
#629 [10:30] * Endovene [Endovene@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#630 [10:31] * Kealper [Kealper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#631 [10:34] * paul_k [paul_k@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#632 [10:38] * HariboPenguin [HariboPenguin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#633 [10:42] * grosronan [grosronan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#634 [10:43] <grosronan> Hello everyone
#635 [10:44] <grosronan> I have a problem : i have absolutely no passive/friendly mobs on my map on any difficulty setting (seed: 4075657729168433126 , mc version : B1.8.1). Anyone knows why ? should i sublit a bug report ?
#636 [10:45] <|Kiikun|> grosronan: passives spawn when chunks are loaded.
#637 [10:45] <|Kiikun|> they also dont spawn in certain biomes.
#638 [10:46] <grosronan> ocean might be one of them ?
#639 [10:46] <|Kiikun|> ive SEEN them bobbing in the ocean.. but they need to have land to spawn on.
#640 [10:46] <grosronan> ( even if im on an island with lots of grass ? )
#641 [10:46] <|Kiikun|> grass affects nothign anymore
#642 [10:46] <|Kiikun|> passive spawnign changed with 1.8
#643 [10:47] <|Kiikun|> its part of the 'more persistant passives' thing.
#644 [10:48] * mib_ar64uv [mib_ar64uv@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#645 [10:48] <|Kiikun|> if you went and killed all the passives you saw, youre going to have to go travelign a long ways and they might spawn more when you come back
#646 [10:49] * mohawk [mohawk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#647 [10:51] <grosronan> um, no, at first creating, and recreating the map, there was 0 mobs (only aggressive ones at night)
#648 [10:51] <grosronan> ive seen 0 sheep, 0 cow, 0 chicken :|
#649 [10:51] <|Kiikun|> grosronan: have you gone traveling? or have any mods installed?
#650 [10:51] <grosronan> no mod, ill try to go far away and come back ...
#651 [10:52] <|Kiikun|> grosronan: just wander. they dont always spawn within sight of where you start.
#652 [10:54] <grosronan> theres lots of water around (ocean biome as far as i know) and havent seen one floating around, but ill travel some more.
#653 [10:54] <grosronan> thanks anyway
#654 [10:54] <Iridium> how would i go about combining a slime farm with a mob farm?
#655 [10:55] * Shnaw [Shnaw@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#656 [10:55] <Iridium> just place some lava traps after the drowning pool or something?
#657 [10:55] * Syndic [Syndic@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#658 [10:55] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: i would think feeding them into a lavablade grinder and a drowner after that to get the smaller slimes...
#659 [10:56] <|Kiikun|> but youd loose slimeballs that way i think
#660 [10:56] <Iridium> that's no good
#661 [10:56] * Lux [Lux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#662 [10:56] <|Kiikun|> best to keep them seprate and just combine the outputs :P
#663 [10:56] <Iridium> is there any other use for these 2 empty chunks i now have?
#664 [10:56] <Lux> anyone here that knows how to give ur MC server more ram? on windows 7 64 bit
#665 [10:57] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: if they spawn slimes... just make slime farm. you can make mob farm above the slime levels
#666 [10:57] <grosronan> Lux : buy some, and shutdown everything that doesnt need to be on.
#667 [10:57] <Iridium> they don't, only 2 of 4 of the chunks spawn slime
#668 [10:58] <|Kiikun|> Lux: not sure if the server limits its ram usage
#669 [10:58] <Lux> well. i have 8 gig. and only running MC and a MC server. it is set standard to 512mb
#670 [10:58] <Lux> and i want to give it 3gb
#671 [10:58] <Lux> i saw someone making a .bat file. but it wont work
#672 [10:58] <|Kiikun|> lux just how many peopel do you have playing? o.o
#673 [10:59] <Lux> well we are 4. but running buildcraft industrycraft and some other mods and its not running high
#674 [10:59] <|Kiikun|> ah.
#675 [10:59] <Lux> but players keep getting error with string lengths
#676 [10:59] <|Kiikun|> wait.. all that... isnt that for bukkit?
#677 [10:59] * quaddle [quaddle@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#678 [10:59] <Lux> and logging in just to get kicked 2 sec later
#679 [10:59] <Lux> and server message says to little ram
#680 [10:59] <Lux> so need to give it more POWAH :D
#681 [11:00] <|Kiikun|> :moreram
#682 [11:00] <WugBot> moreram: http://pastebin.com/YhRXMsEU (Thanks go to the super sexy GreyVulpine!)
#683 [11:00] <|Kiikun|> thats for the client... you can probably adjust for the server
#684 [11:00] <quaddle> having problems starting the minecraft game.
#685 [11:01] * |Kiikun| has to get ready for work now :/
#685 [11:01] <Lux> Cheers m8. will try D
#686 [11:01] <Lux> :D*
#687 [11:03] * Kurimus [Kurimus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#688 [11:03] <Lux> bah. same error as last time. says that java is not regog as a command. i was told to update java and it would fix it, but no dice
#689 [11:04] <Iridium> i think that's something to do with your java path
#690 [11:04] <Iridium> since i had a similar issue
#691 [11:04] <Morrolan> Lux: Replace the 'java' command with the full path to your Java installation or add it to the classpath
#692 [11:05] <Lux> ok
#693 [11:07] <Lux> like this C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin java -Xmx2048M -Xms2048M -cp minecraft_server.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame?
#694 [11:07] * hugeirony [hugeirony@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#695 [11:08] <hugeirony> hi i have a download problem can somebody help pls
#696 [11:10] * Hellgast_ [Hellgast_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#697 [11:13] * mib_c5vhe0 [mib_c5vhe0@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#698 [11:13] <hugeirony> hi
#699 [11:13] <mib_c5vhe0> hi
#700 [11:13] <hugeirony> can you please help me
#701 [11:14] <mib_c5vhe0> whats your problem
#702 [11:14] <Hellgast_> I can
#703 [11:14] <Hellgast_> whats up?
#704 [11:14] * paul_k [paul_k@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#705 [11:15] <hugeirony> okey i bought the premium account everything worked than i played with mods and now it dont work anymore and when
#706 [11:15] <hugeirony> i try to reinstall the launcher stopped after 5%
#707 [11:15] <mib_c5vhe0> have you windows 7
#708 [11:15] <Hellgast_> Go to your %appdata%
#709 [11:15] <hugeirony> yes
#710 [11:16] <Hellgast_> and delete .minecraft
#711 [11:16] <Hellgast_> then it will redownload everything
#712 [11:16] <hugeirony> i have allready tried this
#713 [11:16] <Hellgast_> Then it should work
#714 [11:16] <mib_c5vhe0> yes
#715 [11:17] <hugeirony> okey i will try it again
#716 [11:17] <Hellgast_> !
#717 [11:17] <Hellgast_> Make sure to close your minecraft
#718 [11:17] <hugeirony> okey
#719 [11:18] <hugeirony> minecraft is a imacing game
#720 [11:18] <Hellgast_> What? 0.o
#721 [11:19] <SinZ> imacing, its the latest word, everyone says it these days!
#722 [11:19] <Hellgast_> Haha, tell me what it means :D
#723 [11:19] <SinZ> it means something
#724 [11:19] <hugeirony> okey after deleting what exe should i use to launch launcher
#725 [11:20] <Hellgast_> If you have windows 7, you go to minecraft.net, download the launcher for windows
#726 [11:20] <Hellgast_> then put it on ur desktop
#727 [11:20] <Hellgast_> and dubbel click it
#728 [11:20] <hugeirony> okey
#729 [11:20] * TheBadShepperd [TheBadShepperd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#730 [11:21] * clarjon1 [clarjon1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#731 [11:21] <mib_c5vhe0> i bought the premium acc too but after the log in it says,that it is the minecraft beta
#732 [11:21] <hugeirony> i cant descripe and the problem i m not able to use it at the moment but what i have seen is one of the best ideas since development of gaming
#733 [11:22] <hugeirony> okey i have done everything yyou said but download stop
#734 [11:22] <SinZ> As usual, the spelling in #minecrafthelp is amazing!
#735 [11:22] <Hellgast_> mib_c5he0, it is becaus minecraft is only beta, next month the full releasewill come out
#736 [11:22] <hugeirony> for shure srry
#737 [11:22] <Hellgast_> then you will also have it, becaus you pre purchased it
#738 [11:22] <Hellgast_> hugeirony, maybe the survers are overloaded, w8 a bit and try again
#739 [11:23] <mib_c5vhe0> but in version 1.2 was it alpha
#740 [11:23] <hugeirony> yes i bought it
#741 [11:23] <Hellgast_> mib, yes it was.... that doesn't change anything ;)
#742 [11:23] <hugeirony> is there a way to find out if the servers are overloaded
#743 [11:24] <Hellgast_> Don't think so
#744 [11:24] <hugeirony> because launcher download work fast and stopp between 20 and 35 %
#745 [11:24] <Hellgast_> hmm
#746 [11:24] <Hellgast_> restart ur PC or something
#747 [11:24] <Hellgast_> i dk
#748 [11:26] <hugeirony> okey
#749 [11:26] * lumines [lumines@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#750 [11:28] * Miscni [Miscni@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#751 [11:28] <hugeirony> is it possible that only one download is possible
#752 [11:29] <Hellgast_> What u mean?
#753 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> No
#754 [11:34] <Lux> anyone know how to give MC server more ram?
#755 [11:34] <Lux> tried everything now
#756 [11:34] <Lux> and i get the same error all the time
#757 [11:35] <Lux> when using the .bat file starter that is
#758 [11:35] <Morrolan> And that error is?
#759 [11:35] <Lux> when using this line: java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#760 [11:36] <Lux> the erroe is : java is not recognized as and internal or externam command, preable or batch file
#761 [11:36] <Lux> operable program or batch file*
#762 [11:36] <Morrolan> Replace "java" with the path to your java installation.
#763 [11:36] <Morrolan> Hmm, weren't you here earlier already?
#764 [11:36] * mib_gvpk39 [mib_gvpk39@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#765 [11:37] <TheNoodle> lol
#766 [11:37] * asnoehu [asnoehu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#767 [11:37] <mib_gvpk39> hello, i have a bug or something
#768 [11:37] <Lux> same error
#769 [11:37] <TheNoodle> What's the problem mib_gvpk39?
#770 [11:37] <mib_gvpk39> i cant get any sound on minecraft at all :/
#771 [11:37] <Morrolan> Lux: How exactly does your command look like now?
#772 [11:38] <Lux> just now it says C:/ptrogram is nit a external blah blah
#773 [11:38] <Morrolan> PUt the path in quotes
#774 [11:38] <mib_gvpk39> i only just bought it
#775 [11:38] <Lux> C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#776 [11:38] <Morrolan> Also, you're missing parts of it.
#777 [11:38] <Morrolan> "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java" -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#778 [11:38] <Morrolan> use that one, Lux
#779 [11:38] <TheNoodle> mib_gvpk39, have you turned the sound up in the minecraft properties
#780 [11:38] <mib_gvpk39> yep
#781 [11:39] <mib_gvpk39> the sound's at 100% on game menu
#782 [11:39] <TheNoodle> Okay, one sec, what operating system are you using?
#783 [11:39] <Lux> Morrolan. i love you
#784 [11:39] <mib_gvpk39> windows xp
#785 [11:39] <Morrolan> ;)
#786 [11:39] <Lux> cheers m8
#787 [11:39] <Morrolan> Sure thing, Lux.
#788 [11:40] <TheNoodle> mib_gvpk39, hit the windows key and press R, in the box that comes up type this. "%appdata%\.minecraft\resources" without the quotes.
#789 [11:40] <mib_gvpk39> ok
#790 [11:41] <mib_gvpk39> done
#791 [11:41] <TheNoodle> actually, can you tell me how big the resources folder is?
#792 [11:41] <mib_gvpk39> theres no files in the sound and music folders
#793 [11:41] <mib_gvpk39> is this the problem?
#794 [11:42] <TheNoodle> Yep :P
#795 [11:42] <mib_gvpk39> oh XD
#796 [11:42] <TheNoodle> Okay, open minecraft and instead of logging in select options.
#797 [11:42] <TheNoodle> In the screen that comes up press force update.
#798 [11:42] <mib_gvpk39> do you know how to fix it? where i can dl these files or whatever?
#799 [11:42] <mib_gvpk39> yeah ive done that :/
#800 [11:42] * TheNoodle points at force update
#800 [11:42] <mib_gvpk39> i have a pretty bad net connections
#801 [11:42] <mib_gvpk39> *connection
#802 [11:43] <mib_gvpk39> could that be causing problems?
#803 [11:43] <TheNoodle> Not really, you shouldn't be able to play if it doesn't update completely
#804 [11:43] <mib_gvpk39> hm
#805 [11:43] <mib_gvpk39> ok ill force update one more time
#806 [11:44] <mib_gvpk39> this is taking longer than it did before
#807 [11:44] <mib_gvpk39> good sign maybe?
#808 [11:44] <Hellgast_> Maybe
#809 [11:44] <TheNoodle> Hopefully :)
#810 [11:45] <TheNoodle> Morrolan, it's not okay to package the sound files for him is it?
#811 [11:45] * b0xxy [b0xxy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#812 [11:45] <mib_gvpk39> nope still no sound
#813 [11:45] <mib_gvpk39> this is really weird :s
#814 [11:45] <Morrolan> Theoretiacally - no. Practically - None will know if you were to do it. ;)
#815 [11:45] * TheNoodle hugs Morrolan
#815 [11:45] <TheNoodle> mib_gvpk39, one sec.
#816 [11:46] <oldtopman> oi
#817 [11:46] <oldtopman> Where are our STANDARDS!
#818 [11:46] <mib_gvpk39> thank you! :)
#819 [11:47] <mib_gvpk39> i only just bought this game but i can tell it has a great and helpful community :)
#820 [11:47] <mib_gvpk39> hey
#821 [11:48] <mib_gvpk39> remember that bad net connection? just happened XD
#822 [11:48] <TheNoodle> lol
#823 [11:48] <TheNoodle> I'm uploading the sound packs you need.
#824 [11:48] <mib_gvpk39> brilliant, thanks so much!
#825 [11:51] <mib_gvpk39> thanks again!
#826 [11:51] <mib_gvpk39> i just tried the force update again while im waiting, i doubt it will work as ive done it twice already but you never know
#827 [11:52] * asnoehu [asnoehu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#828 [11:52] <mib_gvpk39> nope! weird
#829 [11:52] <mib_gvpk39> great :)
#830 [11:56] * Tonux [Tonux@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#831 [11:58] * Mr_Chicken [Mr_Chicken@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#832 [11:58] <Iridium> can i have an underground mob farm that loots at the surface?
#833 [11:59] <mib_gvpk39> im happy to wait, but only if you are
#834 [11:59] <Hellgast_> Don't think so
#835 [11:59] <Hellgast_> You can lift the monsters up and kill them there tho
#836 [11:59] <Iridium> would that work with slimes and hostile mobs?
#837 [12:00] <Iridium> how do i lift the mobs?
#838 [12:00] <TheNoodle> Rcokets.
#839 [12:00] <Mr_Chicken> Guys
#840 [12:00] <Mr_Chicken> 1.10 released?
#841 [12:00] <Mr_Chicken> I can't fine it.
#842 [12:01] <TheNoodle> Rockets even.
#843 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> Mr_Chicken - No.
#844 [12:01] <Mr_Chicken> Ok. thanks
#845 [12:01] <TheNoodle> Mr_Chicken, we're still on 1.8.1
#846 [12:01] <Mr_Chicken> Ok thanks.
#847 [12:02] <Hellgast_> Iridium, google and youtube is ur frend :D
#848 [12:02] <mib_gvpk39> \o/
#849 [12:02] <Mr_Chicken> Lol.
#850 [12:02] <Hellgast_> Or download brains.exe
#851 [12:02] * RobinJ24 [RobinJ24@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#852 [12:02] <RobinJ24> The kind has arrived
#853 [12:02] <Iridium> ohh water
#854 [12:03] <Iridium> damn that's gonna take up alot of space
#855 [12:03] <Iridium> plus it'll end up miles away from where i want it
#856 [12:04] <Mr_Chicken> Punctiuation please.
#857 [12:07] * gman [gman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#858 [12:10] <RobinJ24> lol Mr_Chicken..
#859 [12:10] * mr_wibble [mr_wibble@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#860 [12:11] <RobinJ24> Or did you mean punctuation instead of enter?
#861 [12:11] <mr_wibble> is minecraft server down i cant logg in
#862 [12:12] * TehPinkyyy [TehPinkyyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#863 [12:12] <mr_wibble> ?
#864 [12:12] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#865 [12:14] <mib_gvpk39> back
#866 [12:14] <mib_gvpk39> internet went down again
#867 [12:15] <TheNoodle> 55 \o/
#868 [12:15] * TehPinkyy [TehPinkyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#869 [12:15] <mib_gvpk39> yay! :D
#870 [12:20] * Pulec|MCM [Pulec|MCM@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#871 [12:22] <mib_gvpk39> back
#872 [12:22] <mib_gvpk39> (again)
#873 [12:24] <RobinJ24> Crap!
#874 [12:24] <RobinJ24> I misspelled king
#875 [12:24] <RobinJ24> My arrival is not good enough anymore
#876 [12:25] * sprog [sprog@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#877 [12:25] <Morrolan> Well, kind people are more welcome than kings anyway, RobinJ24.
#878 [12:25] <mib_gvpk39> back
#879 [12:25] * Wug is now present and watching
#879 [12:26] <sprog> hallo
#880 [12:26] * Wug waves
#880 [12:26] <sprog> kann hier jemand deutsch
#881 [12:26] * GreyVulpine wugs at Wug.
#881 [12:26] * Wug greyvulpines at greyvulpine (??? does that make sense)
#881 [12:27] * Sardonicus slaps GreyVulpine with a dead pigeon
#881 [12:27] * GreyVulpine pffts
#881 [12:27] * TehPinkyy [TehPinkyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#882 [12:27] <Wug> ??+ stats|http://statistics.minecraftirc.net/minecrafthelp.html
#883 [12:27] <Wug> ;+ stats http://statistics.minecraftirc.net/minecrafthelp.html
#884 [12:27] <WugBot> Done.
#885 [12:28] <Wug> ;- stats
#886 [12:28] <WugBot> Done.
#887 [12:28] <Wug> ;+ mch/stats
#888 [12:28] <WugBot> Done.
#889 [12:28] * FayFay [FayFay@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#890 [12:28] <Wug> drp
#891 [12:29] <Wug> nobody's minecraft is broken at all?
#892 [12:29] <Wug> mojang I am disappoint
#893 [12:29] <mib_gvpk39> mine is!
#894 [12:29] <mib_gvpk39> no sound
#895 [12:29] <Wug> sound works fine everywhere else?
#896 [12:29] <Sardonicus> Hallo sporg
#897 [12:29] <mib_gvpk39> yep
#898 [12:29] <Sardonicus> sprog
#899 [12:29] <mib_gvpk39> im waiting for TheNoodle, i dont know if hes still online though
#900 [12:29] <Wug> I think hes afk
#901 [12:29] * TheNoodle waves
#901 [12:29] <TheNoodle> also
#902 [12:30] <TheNoodle> "Justin88: piracy BAD, mmkay?"
#903 [12:30] <Wug> opr not
#904 [12:30] <TheNoodle> lol
#905 [12:30] <mib_gvpk39> mib_gvpk39 waves back
#906 [12:30] <Wug> piracy
#907 [12:30] <mib_gvpk39> bah dont know how to do this XDXD
#908 [12:30] <TheNoodle> /me
#909 [12:30] <Wug> I guess you just spoke too fast
#910 [12:30] * Wug punts VoxelHead
#910 [12:30] * aikaramba [aikaramba@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#911 [12:31] <mib_gvpk39> oh GREAT! thanks so much thats awesome ^^
#912 [12:31] <TheNoodle> You're welcome.
#913 [12:31] <TheNoodle> Bloody internet being slow >.>
#914 [12:31] <mib_gvpk39> thats fine!
#915 [12:31] <Sardonicus> <.<
#916 [12:32] * Sardonicus waves at TheNoodle
#916 [12:32] <mib_gvpk39> thanks so much, ill dl and then tell you if it works, im sure it will though :) thanks again!
#917 [12:32] <Sardonicus> Hi!
#918 [12:32] * TehPinkyyy [TehPinkyyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#919 [12:32] * RobinJ24 [RobinJ24@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#920 [12:32] <Sardonicus> Pls give me some attention at least...
#921 [12:32] <TheNoodle> NO
#922 [12:32] * Sardonicus cries
#922 [12:32] <TheNoodle> YOU SIR, ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON
#923 [12:32] <TheNoodle> ^_^
#924 [12:33] * Sardonicus commits suicide
#924 [12:33] <Sardonicus> but before write a testament - it's all TheNoodle's fault
#925 [12:33] <TheNoodle> kk
#926 [12:33] <Sardonicus> :D
#927 [12:33] <TheNoodle> aint even mad bro.
#928 [12:33] <Sardonicus> using caps is against the etiquette ^^
#929 [12:34] * Pulec [Pulec@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#930 [12:34] * TheNoodle grumbles
#930 [12:34] <Sardonicus> Just watch out some people like to...
#931 [12:34] <Sardonicus> gtg
#932 [12:35] <Sardonicus> Don't miss me I'm back in 4 hours :)
#933 [12:35] <Wug> Sardonicus: CAPS IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
#934 [12:35] <Wug> AND B&
#935 [12:35] <Wug> >.>
#936 [12:36] <Sardonicus> Wug is a bot?
#937 [12:36] <Wug> *beep boop*
#938 [12:36] <Sardonicus> lol
#939 [12:37] * TehPinkyy [TehPinkyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#940 [12:42] * TheBadShepperd [TheBadShepperd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#941 [12:47] * KoRny143 [KoRny143@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#942 [12:47] * murdrums [murdrums@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#943 [12:47] * TehPinkyyy [TehPinkyyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#944 [12:48] <KoRny143> can anyone help me with my 1.9 pre-release issue? I moved the files for 1.9 into the proper jar file, but the load screen freezes every time
#945 [12:50] <RobinJ24> Uhh
#946 [12:50] <RobinJ24> Aren't you supposed to move the .jar to the .minecraft/bin?
#947 [12:51] <KoRny143> ANYONE?
#948 [12:51] <KoRny143> can anyone help me with my 1.9 pre-release issue?
#949 [12:51] <RobinJ24> ..^
#950 [12:52] <KoRny143> it doesnt give a jar file, just a zip with the updated 1.9 files that is meant to be placed in the minecraft.jar file
#951 [12:52] <KoRny143> am i wrong?
#952 [12:52] <RobinJ24> Where did you download it from?
#953 [12:52] <KoRny143> planetminecraft forums
#954 [12:52] <RobinJ24> Show me the link to it..
#955 [12:52] <RobinJ24> Or tell me what the file extension is
#956 [12:54] <KoRny143> minecraftforum.net actually - http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/268-19-pre-release-4-is-out/
#957 [12:54] * AwesomezGuy [AwesomezGuy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#958 [12:55] <KoRny143> nvm
#959 [12:55] <RobinJ24> yeah thats a .jar
#960 [12:55] <RobinJ24> put it in .minecraft/bin
#961 [12:57] <KoRny143> it comes up as zip at first, so i spaced that had to be saved as .jar before downloading
#962 [12:57] * TehPinkyy [TehPinkyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#963 [12:58] <RobinJ24> don't open it
#964 [12:58] <RobinJ24> just save it and replace it
#965 [12:58] <KoRny143> i know
#966 [12:58] <KoRny143> was simply confused by the file being offered as a zip when all i had to do was save it in a diff format
#967 [12:59] <KoRny143> ty for your help
#968 [13:00] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#969 [13:02] * WTFWatch [WTFWatch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#970 [13:04] * RobinJ [RobinJ@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#971 [13:10] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#972 [13:10] * gerzel [gerzel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#973 [13:11] * Pulec [Pulec@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#974 [13:14] * x [x@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#975 [13:19] * Kaito3 [Kaito3@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#976 [13:20] * Wipp [Wipp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#977 [13:23] * clarjon1 [clarjon1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#978 [13:25] <Iridium> will a standard lava blade kill small slimes?
#979 [13:27] <Iridium> or is there another method of killing both mobs and slimes?
#980 [13:29] <Wug> ;+ wug http://i.imgur.com/4dt56.png
#981 [13:29] <WugBot> Done.
#982 [13:29] <murdrums> A Wug
#983 [13:29] <murdrums> Looks pretty
#984 [13:29] <Wug> I arted it
#985 [13:32] * TehPinkyyy [TehPinkyyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#986 [13:33] * Acid20 [Acid20@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#987 [13:37] * TehPinkyy [TehPinkyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#988 [13:42] * mau5ie [mau5ie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#989 [13:44] * seang96 [seang96@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#990 [13:56] * Karlsan [Karlsan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#991 [14:06] * Blackthorne [Blackthorne@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#992 [14:07] * genshou [genshou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#993 [14:10] * Confused [Confused@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#994 [14:10] * curmet [curmet@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#995 [14:12] <Confused> So... trying to load minecraft classic but I keep getting "Cannot be verified by a trusted source." errors that prevent it from even loading :/
#996 [14:15] * lon-san [lon-san@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#997 [14:19] * peng_bears [peng_bears@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#998 [14:20] * iDominateU [iDominateU@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#999 [14:22] * Wizeon [Wizeon@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1000 [14:23] * Odysimus [Odysimus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1001 [14:24] <Trel> What is the distance from the player when minecraft starts to generate new chunks?
#1002 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft loads 9 chunks around a player
#1003 [14:29] * Ninemmtylenol [Ninemmtylenol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1004 [14:31] * _303 [_303@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1005 [14:34] * Ninemmtylenol [Ninemmtylenol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1006 [14:34] * Keltinray [Keltinray@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1007 [14:34] * Telemnar08 [Telemnar08@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1008 [14:36] <Wug> GreyVulpine: or something
#1009 [14:37] * bletch [bletch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1010 [14:39] * [L] [[L]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1011 [14:40] * mib_wl7l5q [mib_wl7l5q@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1012 [14:41] <mib_wl7l5q> qsdq
#1013 [14:46] * HaltingState [HaltingState@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1014 [14:52] * Wipp [Wipp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1015 [14:53] <Wipp> hello
#1016 [14:53] <Wipp> Anyone here?
#1017 [14:53] <TheNoodle> Everyone is dead, long dead.
#1018 [14:53] <TheNoodle> It is just me now...
#1019 [14:53] <Wipp> ahh
#1020 [14:54] <Wipp> I have a couple q's about Minecraft
#1021 [14:54] <Wipp> can ya help?
#1022 [14:54] * Smarag [Smarag@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1023 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes. What's your other question?
#1024 [14:54] <Wipp> I was wondering, is creative and survival mode all there is?
#1025 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Right now, yes.
#1026 [14:55] <Wipp> ahh
#1027 [14:55] <Wipp> bummer. seems to me the perfect platform for opensource content
#1028 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> With fan-made mods, there's potential for quite a few more game modes
#1029 [14:55] <Wipp> explore a dungeon, storm a castle,
#1030 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> People have used modded content to launch RPG, as well as PVP and other types of MP game modes
#1031 [14:56] <Wipp> Is there a website with the best of them (list)?
#1032 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Best of them? No. Mods have lived and died by the mod creator's hands.
#1033 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> If you're looking for MP mods, your best bet is to look up bukkit plugins
#1034 [14:57] <Wipp> hmm. well someone must have made a list of the most popular, no?
#1035 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> If you're looking for SP mods, the minecraft forums are your best bet
#1036 [14:57] <Wipp> ahh
#1037 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Hah, sure. What's popular? Gameplay's as varied as a person's interests.
#1038 [14:57] <Wipp> and yu have to basically pay a monthly charge to get on a server with MP?
#1039 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> No
#1040 [14:58] * m0nk [m0nk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1041 [14:58] <Wipp> seems thats what I've seen. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough
#1042 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Servers are run independently. There's no oversight. If a server admin wants to require donations or monthly fees, that's their perogative
#1043 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> You can always look for a different public server, or make your own
#1044 [14:58] <Wipp> ah so, free servers must be very popular
#1045 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#1046 [14:59] <Wipp> and the forums again would be a place to look for them
#1047 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> For server, the forums would be one place, yes. There are community-run server lists as well
#1048 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#1049 [14:59] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1050 [14:59] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1051 [15:00] * brand0ng [brand0ng@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1052 [15:00] <Wipp> what is smp?
#1053 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> survival multiplayer
#1054 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> It's how we denoted the difference between the free classic/creative mode, and the premium beta survival mode back before creative made it to beta as well
#1055 [15:01] <Wipp> ahh
#1056 [15:01] <Mr_wuggoshama> >.>
#1057 [15:01] * GreyVulpine kicks Wug
#1057 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> I blame Wug
#1058 [15:01] <Mr_wuggoshama> it probably was me :(
#1059 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Was all you.
#1060 [15:02] <Wipp> ok, I'll look for mods and smp servers.
#1061 [15:03] <Wipp> do you have a mod you recommend?
#1062 [15:03] <Wipp> I'm leaning mor toward survival
#1063 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> I prefer to play minecraft vanilla, without mods. As I said, people's interests are as varied as the number of mods out there
#1064 [15:03] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1065 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Some like to just have blocks, and not care about monsters, some like a little danger in their environments, some like to have RPG elements, some like to just play around and be part of a community..
#1066 [15:04] <Wipp> thank you for the help
#1067 [15:04] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1067 [15:05] <Wipp> Wipp out
#1068 [15:05] * GreyVulpine goes off to play some SupCom
#1068 [15:09] * Vin [Vin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1069 [15:23] * guest-0-68326 [guest-0-68326@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1070 [15:23] <Elementis> Hello?
#1071 [15:23] <Elementis> Anyone in here?
#1072 [15:23] <Wug> yes
#1073 [15:23] <Wug> there are 178 people here
#1074 [15:24] <Elementis> well thank god. i want to appeal getting banned on Minecraftforums.net. any idea if anyone here is online that could help me?
#1075 [15:24] <TheNoodle> #minecraftforums
#1076 [15:24] <Elementis> thanks noodle
#1077 [15:25] * Vin_ [Vin_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1078 [15:25] * mib_52723k [mib_52723k@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1079 [15:27] * Jackson413 [Jackson413@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1080 [15:29] * Zyferus [Zyferus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1081 [15:29] * mib_r7ajp6 [mib_r7ajp6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1082 [15:31] * Thunder7102 [Thunder7102@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1083 [15:32] * mib_djfza4 [mib_djfza4@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1084 [15:43] * Vin_ [Vin_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1085 [15:44] * hugo2dog [hugo2dog@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1086 [15:44] * asmogator [asmogator@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1087 [15:44] <asmogator> i need help
#1088 [15:44] <asmogator> i bought a key that was working for 2 months
#1089 [15:44] <asmogator> i believe now it's fraud
#1090 [15:45] <hugo2dog> did you buy it on ebay?
#1091 [15:45] <asmogator> no
#1092 [15:45] <hugo2dog> where did you buy it from?
#1093 [15:45] <asmogator> who are you ?
#1094 [15:46] <asmogator> Your request (#163352) has been received, and is being reviewed by our support staff.]
#1095 [15:46] <hugo2dog> ok
#1096 [15:46] <asmogator> my key was working for about 2 months
#1097 [15:46] <asmogator> now it's not
#1098 [15:46] <asmogator> anymore
#1099 [15:46] <hugo2dog> did you buy it from minecraft.net
#1100 [15:46] * Justin88 [Justin88@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1101 [15:46] <hugo2dog> if not then yes its a scam
#1102 [15:46] * mib_zgflfj [mib_zgflfj@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1103 [15:47] <Justin88> aghhh =/ Im about to try scuttles 512x512 texture Pack, I wonder how low my FPS will drop or if they do at all
#1104 [15:47] <hugo2dog> justin whats your computers specs?
#1105 [15:48] <asmogator> i cant speak
#1106 [15:48] <asmogator> i can now
#1107 [15:48] <asmogator> what is going on ?
#1108 [15:48] <Justin88> ohh lets see
#1109 [15:48] <hugo2dog> your graphics card will have to be at least 1GB and a very good CPU
#1110 [15:48] * Wipp [Wipp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1111 [15:48] <Thrae> Justin88: Just make sure to use a batch file and 64-bit Java to increase your allocated RAM to at least 2GB
#1112 [15:48] <Wipp> Heya folks, another wuick question, if anyone here?
#1113 [15:49] <Justin88> i7 2600k 4.5 GHZ MSI Lightning GTX 580 O.C. a lil more, 8 GB 1600 RAM OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS SSD
#1114 [15:49] * mib_2sktbi [mib_2sktbi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1115 [15:49] <Thrae> ??> asmogator dont/flood
#1116 [15:49] <VoxelHead> asmogator: (dont/flood) Please do not paste large globs of text into the IRC channel. This is called 'flooding' and is considered _very_ rude.
#1117 [15:49] <VoxelHead> asmogator: (dont/flood) If you have an error log or other information to share that is more then one or two lines, use pastebin.com. see pastebin for more information.
#1118 [15:49] <hugo2dog> justin88 you should be able to run it
#1119 [15:49] <Thrae> ??< dont/spam
#1120 [15:49] <asmogator> then how can i report my problem
#1121 [15:49] <Wipp> In survival mode, I dont have any sheep near me that I can find, how do I make a bed?
#1122 [15:49] <Justin88> I think thats all that goes into minecrafts computing plus a RAM disk of 4 GB for Minecraft and allocated 6 GB Ram to bat file
#1123 [15:49] <asmogator> my problem got ignored for more than 10 days
#1124 [15:49] <asmogator> since 10 days im unable to play
#1125 [15:49] <Thrae> asmogator: So you bought a key or gift code from somewhere other than minecraft.net?
#1126 [15:50] <hugo2dog> thrae he wouldnt say
#1127 [15:50] <asmogator> Thrae: my friend bought a code for me, i can provide you my code, my login and my mail that was working for long time
#1128 [15:51] <Thrae> asmogator: OK, and when you submitted your support ticket, did your friend give you the receipt ID, credit card or bank information, etc.?
#1129 [15:51] <asmogator> Thrae: all i have is my gift code, my login and my mail
#1130 [15:52] * JohnEBH [JohnEBH@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1131 [15:52] <Thrae> asmogator: Well all Mojang can do is tell you whether there was a chargeback on the account. If that's the case then there's nothing they can do. And you did say you're worried about the possibility of fraud.
#1132 [15:53] <Wipp> How do you register a name?
#1133 [15:53] <Thrae> asmogator: It takes them a while for the escrow services to contact them back, as they don't handle the money themselves.
#1134 [15:54] <Thrae> Wipp: On Minecraft or on IRC?
#1135 [15:54] <Wipp> IRC
#1136 [15:54] <Thrae> ?? irc
#1137 [15:54] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1138 [15:54] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1139 [15:54] <Wipp> ty
#1140 [15:56] <asmogator> Thrae: what?
#1141 [15:56] <asmogator> so what i have to do now to play ?
#1142 [15:56] <Thrae> asmogator: All you can do is wait for the banking services to get back to Mojang and for them to get back to you.
#1143 [15:57] <Thrae> asmogator: Just in case, what's your Minecraft username?
#1144 [15:57] <asmogator> Thrae: the_asmo
#1145 [15:57] <Thrae> !paid the_asmo
#1146 [15:57] * Ninemmtylenol [Ninemmtylenol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1147 [15:57] <Thrae> Yeah, if it was Premium, it's not anymore. So you'll have to wait for Mojang.
#1148 [15:58] <hugo2dog> !paid hugo2dog
#1149 [15:58] <asmogator> asmo@home:~$ cat texty/minecraft.txt
#1150 [15:58] <asmogator> l: asmo
#1151 [15:58] <asmogator> p: 34908uj54t
#1152 [15:58] <asmogator> KEY: m9q7-c8v6-d4y3
#1153 [15:58] <Thrae> ?? accounts
#1154 [15:58] <VoxelHead> accounts: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1155 [15:58] <asmogator> well
#1156 [15:58] <asmogator> i just have to say
#1157 [15:58] <asmogator> i got scammed
#1158 [15:58] <asmogator> that's all
#1159 [15:59] <asmogator> but it was nice tho it's lame to make such game in java
#1160 [15:59] <Thrae> Yes, buying a gift code anywhere but Minecraft.net is a scam.
#1161 [15:59] <asmogator> enjoy
#1162 [15:59] <asmogator> yeayea
#1163 [15:59] <asmogator> fuck you scammers
#1164 [15:59] * AuBot kicked asmogator from #minecrafthelp (Reason: smogator :Please keep it civil.)
#1165 [15:59] <Sardonicus> haha I'm using IceChat and playing IceWars, what a coincidence!
#1166 [15:59] * mib_7rhqfk [mib_7rhqfk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1167 [15:59] <Justin88> hmm So if a texture pack is greyed out in minecraft you cant use it im asusming ?
#1168 [16:00] <hugo2dog> justin88 have you used a patcher?
#1169 [16:00] <Thrae> I believe you still need a HD Texture Patcher for HD Texture Packs
#1170 [16:00] <Justin88> yea i used the hd patcher
#1171 [16:01] <Justin88> i didnt press any options other than Patch
#1172 [16:01] <Justin88> maybe i have to change the folder where its located =/
#1173 [16:01] * cornelius [cornelius@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1174 [16:02] <Justin88> actually it looks right =/
#1175 [16:02] <cornelius> if i downloaded 1.9 prerelease and it didnt work but my worlds are gone how can i get them back?
#1176 [16:03] <Thrae> ?? lostworld
#1177 [16:03] <VoxelHead> lostworld: If a power failure or other event has caused your world to no longer appear in the list, try loading your world in a map editor such as MCEdit, and resaving it. That may correct the corruption and allow you to resume use of your saved world.
#1178 [16:04] * Skable [Skable@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1179 [16:05] * Wipp [Wipp@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1180 [16:05] * CrusaderDeleters [CrusaderDeleters@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1181 [16:08] * Iguana [Iguana@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1182 [16:08] <Justin88> Thrae any help with this ?
#1183 [16:09] * nastynate209 [nastynate209@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1184 [16:09] <Justin88> I think I realised the problem now, I was using a jar in a diff folder and starting it with my btch file and not the modified one
#1185 [16:10] <Justin88> So i tried to copy the start.bat to where the new minecraft.jar that allows HD texture packs was mad but when I use the bat i Get an error which states :
#1186 [16:10] <nastynate209> im trying to buy minecraft and it says "ERROR Your account is closed. If you wish to reopen your account, please call our customer service team on +44 870 383 0232"
#1187 [16:10] <Thrae> nastynate209: Are you using Moneybookers or Paypal?
#1188 [16:11] <Justin88> Error could not find or load main class net.minecraft.Launcher frame
#1189 [16:11] <nastynate209> i used a mastercard and that didnt work so i tried paypal
#1190 [16:11] <Thrae> nastynate209: OK, when you select to pay via Paypal, click the link to pay without an account / without logging in.
#1191 [16:11] <nastynate209> ill go try that
#1192 [16:12] <Thrae> Justin88: What batch file are you using? That just means Java can't find the file you're telling it to open.
#1193 [16:12] <Justin88> this
#1194 [16:12] <Justin88> java -Xmx6144M -Xms6144M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1195 [16:12] <Justin88> pause
#1196 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft.jar or minecraft.jar?
#1197 [16:12] <Justin88> its what i used to run minecraft before, but now im using the .jar for hd textures and it wont work
#1198 [16:12] <nastynate209> it makes me log in to get to the payment page
#1199 [16:13] <Justin88> Oh wow, are u serious its case sensitive lol
#1200 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> You've.. never used *nix before..?
#1201 [16:13] <Thrae> Justin88: Yes, Java is case sensitive
#1202 [16:13] <TheNoodle> sigh...
#1203 [16:13] <TheNoodle> :p
#1204 [16:13] <Thrae> Justin88 is using Windows
#1205 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#1206 [16:14] <Justin88> actually no its not on windows cause ive used it before with cap m and it worked i just checked
#1207 [16:14] <Thrae> I'm not sure why he's using the minecraft.jar launcher, except maybe he doesn't know he can replace that with Minecraft.exe
#1208 [16:14] <Justin88> cause I dont know how to allocate more mem to the minecraft.exe
#1209 [16:14] <oldtopman> "java -Xmx6144M -Xms6144M -jar Minecraft.jar"
#1210 [16:14] <oldtopman> Justin88: Use that.
#1211 [16:14] * mib_4qv6xa [mib_4qv6xa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1212 [16:15] <Thrae> Justin88: Just replace Minecraft.jar with Minecraft.exe in both the batch file and the batch file's location and it'll work the same.
#1213 [16:15] <Justin88> but the hd texture patch only makes a jar file right o.O so it wouldnt work with them im assuming
#1214 [16:15] <oldtopman> ??> Justin88 mods
#1215 [16:15] <VoxelHead> Justin88: (mods) As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1216 [16:15] <VoxelHead> Justin88: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit or #bukkithelp -- Mod creators can also try #mcp-modding
#1217 [16:16] <Justin88> yea oldtop but they know about the hd patch
#1218 [16:16] <oldtopman> :S
#1219 [16:16] * ferdinand [ferdinand@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1220 [16:16] <Justin88> thanks though :]
#1221 [16:16] <ferdinand> Hi !
#1222 [16:16] <ferdinand> Account charged DOUBLE.
#1223 [16:16] <oldtopman> Your mods are breaking mc though :/
#1224 [16:17] <Thrae> Justin88: Yes, you'd need the JAR launcher then. They're basically the same anyway.
#1225 [16:17] <oldtopman> ??> ferdinand account
#1226 [16:17] <VoxelHead> ferdinand: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#1227 [16:17] <ferdinand> Many support tickets to mojang
#1228 [16:17] <VoxelHead> ferdinand: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#1229 [16:17] <ferdinand> No answers
#1230 [16:17] <ferdinand> Why?
#1231 [16:17] <oldtopman> ferdinand: I suggest you try again, or cry fraud.
#1232 [16:17] <Justin88> because this isnt Mojang
#1233 [16:17] <ferdinand> Why can't somebody anwser tickets?
#1234 [16:17] <nastynate209> @ thrae i cant buy minecraft without logging in
#1235 [16:17] <ferdinand> ARN is next step.
#1236 [16:17] <oldtopman> Because life isn't fair.
#1237 [16:18] <oldtopman> nastynate209: Did you call them?
#1238 [16:18] <TheNoodle> nastynate209, you need to create an account befor eyou can buy minecraft...
#1239 [16:18] <Thrae> nastynate209: You can buy it without logging into Paypal. You can't buy it without logging into Minecraft.net.
#1240 [16:18] <Justin88> ferdinand this is a fan made support channel that helps as much as it can
#1241 [16:18] <clarjon1> Justin88: fan run, notch made it
#1242 [16:18] <clarjon1> oh wait
#1243 [16:18] <Justin88> oh well i didnt know that
#1244 [16:18] <oldtopman> TheNoodle: He said this upon joining <nastynate209> im trying to buy minecraft and it says "ERROR Your account is closed. If you wish to reopen your account, please call our customer service team on +44 870 383 0232"
#1245 [16:18] <ferdinand> Well, sorry 'bout that. Just I can't get ANY answers anywhere else.
#1246 [16:18] <clarjon1> thought this was #minecraft
#1247 [16:18] <Justin88> but still
#1248 [16:18] <ferdinand> And, I'm even swedish.
#1249 [16:18] <clarjon1> My bad ^_^
#1250 [16:18] <ferdinand> Kinda sucks
#1251 [16:18] <TheNoodle> ah, nvm then oldtop :)
#1252 [16:18] <Justin88> its fan-based * or w.e. basically i meant cant handle actual company issues
#1253 [16:18] <ferdinand> Company not being even reachable thru ANY means..
#1254 [16:19] <Thrae> ferdinand: Did you select Payment->Transaction->My account was charged multiple times from http://www.minecraft.net/support ?
#1255 [16:19] <nastynate209> thrae how do i do it in paypal
#1256 [16:19] <oldtopman> ferdinand: Svenska? Kanske det finns något annat du kan göra då.
#1257 [16:19] <ferdinand> About 5 tumes Thrae.
#1258 [16:19] <ferdinand> For 6 months.
#1259 [16:20] <ferdinand> Thats almost once every month.
#1260 [16:20] <ferdinand> ;)
#1261 [16:20] <Thrae> nastynate209: http://www.ianbrown.cc/blog/how-to-pay-via-paypal-without-a-paypal-account/
#1262 [16:20] <oldtopman> ferdinand: Kanske kan ni gå till Mojang HQ och klaga. Tyvärr kan vi inte hjälpa dig här.
#1263 [16:21] <oldtopman> (This is where I find out that he doesn't speek sweedish)
#1264 [16:21] <TheNoodle> lol
#1265 [16:21] <ferdinand> Det vore great. Tyvärr så finns det ingen kontaktinformation NÅGONSTANS.
#1266 [16:21] <ferdinand> Är rätt säker på att enbart det är ett brott av "kontrakt" med MB eller så.
#1267 [16:21] <Thrae> ferdinand: Well you can also try contacting Paypal or Moneybookers, depending on who you used. If you didn't paid using a credit/debit card directly on Minecraft.net that's Moneybookers. It's likely the ticket has been stuck waiting for their input.
#1268 [16:21] <ferdinand> Därför, ARN.
#1269 [16:22] <oldtopman> Det måste finnas en adress någonstans.
#1270 [16:22] <ferdinand> MB, but then, as well as mojang, diden't think it was worth answering.
#1271 [16:22] <ferdinand> oldtopman: Var?
#1272 [16:22] <oldtopman> Jag letar efter det.
#1273 [16:23] <ferdinand> For 6 months btw? :S
#1274 [16:23] * dino10 [dino10@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1275 [16:23] * dino10 needs help
#1275 [16:23] <Thrae> If it's a credit card I'd contact the card issuer after 6 months and report it as fraud, no matter who the company is
#1276 [16:23] <dino10> I am RobinJ24 btw
#1277 [16:23] <dino10> hold on I will give you nifo
#1278 [16:23] <TheNoodle> What's up robin? :P
#1279 [16:23] <ferdinand> As a web developer with years of experiance with e-commerce; That's not likely..
#1280 [16:24] <ferdinand> I did contact MB, just that they don't really care. And I know that mojang is not a fraud company..
#1281 [16:24] <ferdinand> The just have a WAAAY sucky support staff..?
#1282 [16:24] <dino10> When I play Minecraft it always crashes after some time and gives me this error on the desktop: http://pastebin.com/VD7L0H7P
#1283 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> They have basically no support staff..
#1284 [16:24] <TheNoodle> They have us.... :/
#1285 [16:24] <TheNoodle> and that's it.
#1286 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> We're not support staff :P
#1287 [16:24] <oldtopman> https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=Mojang+building&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=google+maps+mojang+stockholm+sweden&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=ly9&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm=plcs&tbo=u&ei=cpqYToyvNeOHsgL99829BA&oi=local_group&ct=more-results&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQtQMwAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=71b8673d5f231e54&biw=1920&bih=915
#1288 [16:25] <TheNoodle> We're more support staff than anyone else :P
#1289 [16:25] <oldtopman> Där är det.
#1290 [16:25] <oldtopman> ferdinand:
#1291 [16:25] <TheNoodle> good god man. goo.gl
#1292 [16:25] <oldtopman> :P
#1293 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> dino10 - Uninstall java completely and reinstall it fresh
#1294 [16:25] <ferdinand> Mjao. Men en registeringsaddress för ett företag är kanske bara det. En adress. FB här i sverige finns inte där som sag.
#1295 [16:25] <ferdinand> Dessutom så kan jag inte ta mig dit.
#1296 [16:25] <dino10> Varför svenska?
#1297 [16:26] <Thrae> It's not they don't care, they just sometimes have problems getting to support tickets. The gift code scam market definitely isn't helping.
#1298 [16:26] <ferdinand> Och om jag väl gör det så vem betalar resevägen?
#1299 [16:26] * fenster [fenster@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1300 [16:26] <dino10> Uhh how do I uninstall java? /noob
#1301 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> dino10 - Control panel -> programs and features/uninstall a program
#1302 [16:26] <Thrae> dino10: In XP Add/Remove Programs, in Vista/7 Programs and Features. Just like all other programs.
#1303 [16:27] <dino10> ah thought so
#1304 [16:27] <oldtopman> ferdinand: Dina möjligheter är mycket begränsade, ledsen. : /
#1305 [16:28] <ferdinand> Well, I thank you doods for your patience and support. On monday I will personally contact ARN and try to get some satisfaction.
#1306 [16:28] <oldtopman> Good luck!
#1307 [16:28] <ferdinand> It's sad really. I really like minecraft and have been playing very often since I ordered it.
#1308 [16:29] <ferdinand> And I will keep playing, if i still can..
#1309 [16:31] <nastynate209> thrae i just tried it at paypal and it said "We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available)"
#1310 [16:32] <Thrae> nastynate209: I would contact your card issuer and see if there's any problem there.
#1311 [16:32] <oldtopman> nastynate209: Did you call the number?
#1312 [16:32] <nastynate209> the minecraft number doesnt work
#1313 [16:32] <Thrae> That's not a Minecraft number, that's a Paypal number, I think
#1314 [16:33] <oldtopman> Thrae: Then ehy would it have country code 44?
#1315 [16:33] <nastynate209> ill call my card rite now
#1316 [16:34] <oldtopman> ;flags
#1317 [16:34] <oldtopman> bah
#1318 [16:34] <Thrae> Yeah, I was thinking maybe that's local for nastynate209
#1319 [16:34] <Thrae> Oh wait he's in California
#1320 [16:34] <oldtopman> Two digits is a country code.
#1321 [16:35] <Scott> 44 is the United Kingdom I think
#1322 [16:35] <oldtopman> I should presume that Mojang blocked his account for some reason.
#1323 [16:35] <Scott> Country code 44 is for United Kingdom and Isle of Man.
#1324 [16:35] * herm67 [herm67@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1325 [16:35] <Thrae> If they blocked his account wouldn't he be unable to login? I never heard of a blocked account *just* for purchasing.
#1326 [16:35] <Scott> Country code is the United States and Canada because we are #1 ;)
#1327 [16:36] <Scott> It's actually a lot of countries o.o
#1328 [16:36] * dylanbarberdude [dylanbarberdude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1329 [16:36] <Scott> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes#Zone_1_.E2.80.93_North_American_Numbering_Plan_Area
#1330 [16:36] <dylanbarberdude> hi
#1331 [16:38] <dylanbarberdude> VoxelHead eat AuBot
#1332 [16:39] <peru> thats a question, statement or an order?
#1333 [16:39] <dylanbarberdude> order
#1334 [16:40] * EricReitz [EricReitz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1335 [16:40] <TheNoodle> dylan, there's channels if you want to play with the bots. :P
#1336 [16:41] * aikaramba [aikaramba@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1337 [16:41] <dylanbarberdude> WHERE!
#1338 [16:41] <TheNoodle> ##voxelhead ##wugbot
#1339 [16:41] <TheNoodle> #aubotdevchan
#1340 [16:41] <dylanbarberdude> 2 #s
#1341 [16:42] * TheNoodle nods
#1341 [16:42] <oldtopman> What is this, freenode?
#1342 [16:42] * dino10 [dino10@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1343 [16:42] <dylanbarberdude> no admins in voxelhead
#1344 [16:43] <dino10> My minecraft still crashes
#1345 [16:43] <oldtopman> nope
#1346 [16:43] <dino10> After reinstalling java
#1347 [16:43] <oldtopman> ??> dino10 win/javara
#1348 [16:43] <VoxelHead> dino10: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1349 [16:43] <VoxelHead> dino10: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#1350 [16:43] <dino10> But I installed java successfully
#1351 [16:44] <oldtopman> Okay.
#1352 [16:44] <oldtopman> Same error?
#1353 [16:44] <dino10> yep
#1354 [16:44] <nastynate209> thrae i called my card and they said there is no denied purchases
#1355 [16:45] <oldtopman> hrm
#1356 [16:46] <dylanbarberdude> lol look at this
#1357 [16:46] <oldtopman> nastynate209: call 011 44 870 383 0232
#1358 [16:46] * dylanbarberdude fucks VoxelHead
#1358 [16:46] * AuBot kicked dylanbarberdude from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ylanbarberdude :Please keep it civil.)
#1359 [16:46] <oldtopman> XD
#1360 [16:46] * dylanbarberdude [dylanbarberdude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1361 [16:46] <dylanbarberdude> funny?
#1362 [16:47] <oldtopman> No.
#1363 [16:47] <Thrae> VoxelHead's chatterbot features usually aren't enabled on this channel.
#1364 [16:47] <TheNoodle> dylanbarberdude, stop playing with the bots >.>
#1365 [16:47] <dylanbarberdude> i just wanted to show you
#1366 [16:47] <oldtopman> WHAT
#1367 [16:47] <Iridium> will a standard lava blade kill small slimes?
#1368 [16:48] <dylanbarberdude> yep
#1369 [16:48] <TheNoodle> ...lava blade? O.O
#1370 [16:48] <oldtopman> dylanbarberdude: How old are you that you don't have a real computer?
#1371 [16:48] <ohzie> lava blade
#1372 [16:48] <Iridium> yeah, what do you call it?
#1373 [16:48] <dino10> Argh
#1374 [16:48] <dino10> Ran out of memory error
#1375 [16:48] <Iridium> a suspended bock of lava
#1376 [16:48] <dino10> Anyone know why it crashes randomly btw?
#1377 [16:48] <oldtopman> nope
#1378 [16:48] <TheNoodle> gremlins
#1379 [16:48] <oldtopman> Even _jeb is stymied
#1380 [16:48] <dylanbarberdude> oldtopman, i do have one its being used
#1381 [16:48] <Thrae> dino10: Give it more memory?
#1382 [16:48] <oldtopman> pfft
#1383 [16:49] <dino10> Would tht fix the error I talked about before?
#1384 [16:49] <dylanbarberdude> its crap tho
#1385 [16:49] <dino10> The Ran out of memory thing doesnt happen very often
#1386 [16:49] <Thrae> dino10: Good chance
#1387 [16:49] <dylanbarberdude> integrated graphics
#1388 [16:49] <oldtopman> hmmm
#1389 [16:49] <dino10> Thrae: how do I do it?
#1390 [16:49] <oldtopman> dylanbarberdude: Type in "/server irc.efnet.net"
#1391 [16:49] <dylanbarberdude> multithreaded dual core 64bit 4gb ram
#1392 [16:50] <Thrae> dino10: Are you using 64-bit Windows?
#1393 [16:50] <dino10> I think so
#1394 [16:50] <dylanbarberdude> oldtopman, no that will disconnect me from esper
#1395 [16:50] <oldtopman> oh
#1396 [16:50] <oldtopman> Doesn't do that here.
#1397 [16:50] <dino10> New server tab
#1398 [16:50] <oldtopman> nvm
#1399 [16:50] <Thrae> dino10: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat , place it in the same location as Minecraft.exe
#1400 [16:51] <Iridium> did anybody answer my question?
#1401 [16:52] * dino10 [dino10@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1402 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Don't think anybody knows
#1403 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Don't see why not though
#1404 [16:52] <Iridium> ah ok
#1405 [16:52] * dino10 [dino10@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1406 [16:52] <dino10> Thrae: should I run the file you sent me?
#1407 [16:53] <dino10> After placing it in the correct folder
#1408 [16:53] <Thrae> dino10: Yes, as long as it's in the same location as Minecraft.exe
#1409 [16:53] <dino10> It didnt work
#1410 [16:53] <Thrae> dino10: Copy the contents of the errorlog.txt file to www.pastebin.com and give us the link
#1411 [16:53] <dino10> It was empty
#1412 [16:54] <Thrae> Then you didn't actually run the batch file
#1413 [16:54] <dino10> But I got an error that said Couldnt create virtual java machine
#1414 [16:54] <dino10> I think
#1415 [16:54] <nastynate209> thrae still doesnt work
#1416 [16:54] <Thrae> dino10: That means you don't have at least 1GB of RAM free. What's your total RAM?
#1417 [16:54] <dino10> no idea
#1418 [16:54] <dino10> not my computer
#1419 [16:54] <Thrae> ??> dino10 win/dxdiag
#1420 [16:54] <VoxelHead> dino10: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1421 [16:54] <VoxelHead> dino10: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1422 [16:55] <dylanbarberdude> win
#1423 [16:55] <dino10> 1536 mb ram
#1424 [16:55] <Thrae> nastynate209: Send an email with the error message over to daniel@mojang.com, along with a description of the problem and as much information as possible.
#1425 [16:56] * dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg [dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1426 [16:56] <Thrae> dino10: OK, so you're probably getting problems since your RAM is low.
#1427 [16:56] <dino10> ah ok
#1428 [16:56] <Thrae> dino10: Are you using Windows XP, Vista, or 7?
#1429 [16:56] <dino10> 7
#1430 [16:57] <Thrae> dino10: So out of 1.5GB it's probable you only have ~700MB free at best, where Minecraft recommends at least 1GB *free*.
#1431 [16:58] * clarjon1 [clarjon1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1432 [16:58] <Thrae> dino10: If you play Multi-player I think the RAM requirements are lower since it doesn't have to deal with the world locally.
#1433 [16:58] <nastynate209> ill try that thrae and thank u for ur time and help
#1434 [16:58] <dino10> ah well I guess I just have to start minecraft again when it crashes :P
#1435 [16:58] <dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg> Can someone help me? My minecraft game keeps crashing after I've been playing for a few minutes and I don't know what's causing it.
#1436 [16:58] * dino10 [dino10@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1437 [16:58] * JohnEBH [JohnEBH@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1438 [16:58] <Thrae> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg: Are there any error files like hs_err_pid ?
#1439 [16:58] <dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg> Yeah.
#1440 [16:59] * wikkit [wikkit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1441 [16:59] <Wug> is it normal that the Threads: monitor thing is all bugged out in 1.8.1 server
#1442 [16:59] <Wug> its been doing it for a while and I have decided I dont care
#1443 [16:59] <JohnEBH> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg- Can you please change your nick to something shorter? xD
#1444 [16:59] <Thrae> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg: Copy the contents of hs_err_pid to www.pastebin.com and give us the link
#1445 [16:59] <dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg> okay
#1446 [17:00] <wikkit> can't play online, does anyone know why? i tried reconnecting the internet
#1447 [17:01] <Thrae> Yeah, sometimes an IT guy pulls the plug on the Internet where it's located in Atlanta, Georgia, USA and they need to re-connect it
#1448 [17:01] <dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg> Here's the link: http://pastebin.com/uNJwLARQ
#1449 [17:02] <wikkit> okay... it hasn't been working for a couple of days though
#1450 [17:02] <Thrae> wikkit: That was a joke. Can you connect to www.minecraft.net, login, and play it there?
#1451 [17:02] <Wug> wikkit: do you get an error message of some sort
#1452 [17:02] <dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg> AuBot: Would it help if I got a new computer?
#1453 [17:03] <Thrae> ??> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg win/dxdiag
#1454 [17:03] <VoxelHead> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1455 [17:03] <VoxelHead> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1456 [17:03] <Thrae> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg: Let's take a look at your hardware before we give up on your current computer.
#1457 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg's computer seems to be very old
#1458 [17:03] * dylanbarberdude [dylanbarberdude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1459 [17:03] <Thrae> Probably with "Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2"
#1460 [17:03] <dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg> wowowowowow... I can't read what anyone's saying
#1461 [17:04] <Thrae> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg: Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#1462 [17:04] <dylanbarberdude> i just got banned for #minecraft WHY?!
#1463 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> <dylanbarberdude> [L]BananaBotbildramerCruelNoiseEspercornIguanaMicleemollstamPuyoDeadScottSiiseliSnowmanAG_ClintonEddieKealperKrenairlahwranLunamonmr_fleaStatisticsvurtualWugWugBotZerim[9][JD][z]2\u03b5_303_ikke__Sata_A_CaabyelapAaronaaronred345ACsiDAdambeanadept256advionAeominAethisaffadedaffectAGaWagrajagagrifAionajvpotAkkarinAlbireoXAlcoJewAlexHjelmallenmelonalmostrootAlphaComputin
#1464 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> gAlramalta189AluAlu Thats not even a quarter of it
#1465 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> For posting that
#1466 [17:05] <dylanbarberdude> so?
#1467 [17:05] <Scott> you spammed
#1468 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1469 [17:05] <Scott> and you are now ridden of.
#1470 [17:05] <Scott> ridded rather
#1471 [17:06] <dylanbarberdude> i was having fun
#1472 [17:06] <Scott> Oh well.
#1473 [17:06] <Scott> I don't feel that great.
#1474 [17:06] <Scott> :(
#1475 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Then do it elsewhere. Your "Fun" is other people's spam
#1476 [17:06] <Scott> my arm is really sore lol
#1477 [17:06] <dylanbarberdude> come on minecraft is my LIFE
#1478 [17:06] <wikkit> Thrae I tried play online and I couldn't any suggestions?
#1479 [17:06] <Scott> get a new life
#1480 [17:07] <wikkit> on the website i mean
#1481 [17:07] <Scott> i recommend lifesforcheap.com
#1482 [17:07] <Thrae> wikkit: Can you connect to www.minecraft.net, login, and play it there?
#1483 [17:07] <dylanbarberdude> please
#1484 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> dylanbarberdude - You've been banned, this channel is not a forum for disputing bans.
#1485 [17:07] <wikkit> no, it asked to run java and all that and I accepeted but the screen turned black
#1486 [17:08] <wikkit> anny suggestions?
#1487 [17:08] <dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg> VoxelHead: Here's the link: http://pastebin.com/Sa6b08VZ
#1488 [17:08] <Scott> This is the proper forum to dispute your ban dylanbarberdude: http://minecraftirc.net/forum-13.html
#1489 [17:09] <dylanbarberdude> gtg
#1490 [17:09] <Thrae> wikkit: OK, is Java functioning properly on http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp ?
#1491 [17:09] * Ninemmtylenol [Ninemmtylenol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1492 [17:09] <wikkit> checking
#1493 [17:09] <wikkit> thanks!
#1494 [17:09] * Opeth|BeingCultural [Opeth|BeingCultural@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1495 [17:10] <Thrae> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg: Yeah that computer is ancient. Try going to http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/radeon-prer300-xp.aspx and downloading the Suite there and see if it updates anything.
#1496 [17:11] <Thrae> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg: Also to go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com and get all the latest updates for your computer -- you don't even have Service Pack 3 which was released like 7 years ago
#1497 [17:11] <wikkit> Thrae yes it says java is working
#1498 [17:11] * Smiley_ [Smiley_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1499 [17:11] <_303> flags +r please
#1500 [17:11] <Thrae> wikkit: OK, what version does it show and what operating system?
#1501 [17:12] <_303> just today I wrote a flood kick script
#1502 [17:12] * Sun7zu [Sun7zu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1503 [17:12] <Wug> _303: vox has one that mutes. observe:
#1504 [17:12] <Wug> df
#1505 [17:12] <Wug> dfth
#1506 [17:12] <Wug> st
#1507 [17:12] <Wug> hsert
#1508 [17:12] <Wug> haergf
#1509 [17:12] <Wug> aubot does too
#1510 [17:12] * GreyVulpine stabs Wug
#1510 [17:13] <_303> redundancy rules
#1511 [17:13] <dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg> Thrae: Is there any way to make it save my world when minecraft crashes instead of downloading all of this stuff?
#1512 [17:13] <wikkit> Thrae Version: Java SE6 Update 26 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.6.8
#1513 [17:13] <Thrae> Yeah, VoxelHead's is a little more sensitive and let's the helpers spam I've found
#1514 [17:13] <Thrae> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg: Not really, no. You can make a backup script that runs every X minutes.
#1515 [17:13] * xales [xales@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1516 [17:14] <_303> don't bother then if there is VoxelHead
#1517 [17:14] <_303> ♥
#1518 [17:14] * ShaRose [ShaRose@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1519 [17:14] <dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg> Thrae: Would waiting for 1.9 to come out help any?
#1520 [17:15] <wikkit> Thrae Version: Java SE6 Update 26 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.6.8
#1521 [17:15] <Thrae> wikkit: Hmm Black Screen on 10.6.8...I've seen this before and I'm not sure why it's occurring. I think it may have something to do with the drivers that plague older OS X versions. Have you tried another browser like Firefox ?
#1522 [17:15] <wikkit> Thrae i'll try that thanks!
#1523 [17:16] <Thrae> dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg: Yes, you can try 1.9-pre4 right now -- http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/709838-19-pre-release-4-is-out/
#1524 [17:16] * paddie [paddie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1525 [17:16] * CosmicVoyager [CosmicVoyager@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1526 [17:16] <dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg> Ok. Thanks for the help guys.
#1527 [17:16] * dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg [dsafasfdsdafdsfdhfsg@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1528 [17:16] <Scott> If you're an OS X developer, you can get update 27 bt
#1529 [17:16] <Scott> w
#1530 [17:17] * Vin_ [Vin_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1531 [17:17] <Thrae> Scott: Do you know of anything specific with 10.6.8 that can cause problems on both the local client and browser?
#1532 [17:18] <Thrae> Maybe 10.6.8 is just a popular version and that's why I see it so often.
#1533 [17:18] <Scott> no idea
#1534 [17:18] <Scott> tbh i'm too tired to care
#1535 [17:18] <CosmicVoyager> I'm looking for a way to have a server treasury, where players exchange diamonds for currency. It there a mod for that?
#1536 [17:18] <Scott> ?? mods
#1537 [17:18] <VoxelHead> mods: As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1538 [17:18] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit or #bukkithelp -- Mod creators can also try #mcp-modding
#1539 [17:19] <Thrae> CosmicVoyager: iConomy plugin for #bukkit is the most popular
#1540 [17:19] * Realeza [Realeza@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1541 [17:20] <CosmicVoyager> Thrae I have that. I don't see how to do it though.
#1542 [17:20] <wikkit> Thrae so no suggestions on what to do?
#1543 [17:20] <Realeza> Tired of niggers?
#1544 [17:20] * AuBot kicked Realeza from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ealeza :Please keep it civil.)
#1545 [17:20] * Realeza [Realeza@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1546 [17:21] <Realeza> Tired of nhiggers?
#1547 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> !kb Realeza
#1548 [17:21] * GreyBot kicked Realeza from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ealeza :<Kicks:838>)
#1549 [17:21] <CosmicVoyager> Thrae I want players to be able to go to the Treasurt building and exchange diamonds for money in their account.
#1550 [17:22] <CosmicVoyager> If I set up a shop, the money has to go into a player acount. I want it to go into a server account.
#1551 [17:23] <wikkit> Scott or Thrae since this java version doesn't seem to work should i try downloading a new one?
#1552 [17:24] <Vin_> brb
#1553 [17:24] <CosmicVoyager> *I meant to say the diamonds go into a player account. I want them to go into the Treasury.
#1554 [17:25] * mau5ie [mau5ie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1555 [17:27] * downer [downer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1556 [17:30] * oblMraptor [oblMraptor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1557 [17:32] * Iguana_ [Iguana_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1558 [17:35] * umbridge [umbridge@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1559 [17:36] * TehPinkyy [TehPinkyy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1560 [17:48] <bildramer> GreyVulpine, that guy is a bot btw
#1561 [17:48] * mib_0a74nf [mib_0a74nf@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1562 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1563 [17:49] <mib_0a74nf> I need Help
#1564 [17:49] <TheNoodle> Realeza I'm assuming.
#1565 [17:49] <TheNoodle> What's your problem mib_0a74nf?
#1566 [17:50] <mib_0a74nf> I installed the mod too many items and messed it upp now my inventory opens for 1 second and closes
#1567 [17:50] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_0a74nf mods
#1568 [17:50] <VoxelHead> mib_0a74nf: (mods) As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1569 [17:50] <VoxelHead> mib_0a74nf: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit or #bukkithelp -- Mod creators can also try #mcp-modding
#1570 [17:51] <mib_0a74nf> Is there any way i can get rid of it?
#1571 [17:51] <TheNoodle> When you open the client select options, then force update.
#1572 [17:51] <TheNoodle> Then log into the game.
#1573 [17:51] <mib_0a74nf> Its on a mac
#1574 [17:52] <mib_0a74nf> when i update it fails to launch
#1575 [17:53] * Blacker47 [Blacker47@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1576 [17:53] <mib_0a74nf> Hello?
#1577 [17:53] <CosmicVoyager> Anyone know a way to create bank accounts that do not belong to a players? That belong to NPCs or government agencies?
#1578 [17:54] <TheNoodle> #bukkit
#1579 [17:54] <TheNoodle> mib_0a74nf, how do you mean it fails to launch?
#1580 [17:54] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_0a74nf mac/reinst
#1581 [17:54] <VoxelHead> mib_0a74nf: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1582 [17:54] <VoxelHead> mib_0a74nf: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1583 [17:54] <mib_0a74nf> "/nick"Tman"
#1584 [17:55] <TheNoodle> Without the quotes.
#1585 [17:55] <CosmicVoyager> minecraft 1.8 does not work with Mac Leopard, correct?
#1586 [17:55] <TheNoodle> /nick <your nick>
#1587 [17:55] <TheNoodle> 10.5.8
#1588 [17:56] <mib_0a74nf> Does it work with snow leppord
#1589 [17:57] <CosmicVoyager> yes
#1590 [17:58] <mib_0a74nf> i dont have the folder recources
#1591 [17:58] <mib_0a74nf> :(
#1592 [17:59] <mib_0a74nf> :/ i need help from the noodle
#1593 [17:59] <TheNoodle> I don't use a mac.
#1594 [17:59] <TheNoodle> But afaik te folder is there...
#1595 [17:59] <mib_0a74nf> who does here
#1596 [17:59] <mib_0a74nf> ?
#1597 [18:00] <mib_0a74nf> Wow then i just bought minecraft for nothing and wasted $20
#1598 [18:00] <TheNoodle> No...
#1599 [18:00] * wikket [wikket@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1600 [18:01] <TheNoodle> you just need to wait for someone with a mac.
#1601 [18:01] <mib_0a74nf> no i donot have afaik
#1602 [18:01] * TheBadShepp_ [TheBadShepp_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1603 [18:02] <mib_0a74nf> pshh how long will that be
#1604 [18:02] <TheNoodle> And besides, you broke your install of minecraft, not anyone else.
#1605 [18:02] <mib_0a74nf> I know I know
#1606 [18:02] <TheNoodle> ??> mib_0a74nf attitude
#1607 [18:02] <VoxelHead> mib_0a74nf: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1608 [18:02] <VoxelHead> mib_0a74nf: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1609 [18:02] <mib_0a74nf> Im sorry
#1610 [18:03] <TheNoodle> Point being, just wait.
#1611 [18:03] <TheNoodle> hmmm
#1612 [18:03] <mib_0a74nf> WHO HAS A MAC
#1613 [18:03] <TheNoodle> Let's try someting, open up terminal/.
#1614 [18:03] <mib_0a74nf> ok one sec
#1615 [18:04] <mib_0a74nf> yes
#1616 [18:04] <TheNoodle> as a guess type 'cd ~/.minecraft'
#1617 [18:04] * FayFay [FayFay@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1618 [18:04] <mib_0a74nf> it said -bash: cd ~/.minecraft: No such file or directory
#1619 [18:05] <TheNoodle> Okay, so it isn't installed there... :/
#1620 [18:05] <wikket> anyone know what to do if minecraft wont let me play online, I found out the version of Java i'm using has been having trouble, but when i updated my mac it didn't give a new version of minecraft
#1621 [18:05] <mib_0a74nf> hmmm
#1622 [18:05] <wikket> version of java*
#1623 [18:06] <wikket> and when I try to play on minecraft.net it lets me get to the game screen but it just turns black
#1624 [18:06] <mib_0a74nf> oh myne turns white
#1625 [18:06] <TheNoodle> What version of OS X do you have?
#1626 [18:06] <mib_0a74nf> mine*
#1627 [18:06] <TheNoodle> 10.5.8?
#1628 [18:07] <wikket> 10.6.8
#1629 [18:07] <mib_0a74nf> 10.6.7
#1630 [18:07] <TheNoodle> No idea then.
#1631 [18:07] <TheNoodle> Sorry guys.
#1632 [18:07] <mib_0a74nf> Thanks
#1633 [18:07] <wikket> it's fine, i've just been looking for over 2 hours on how to fix this and literally nothing works
#1634 [18:07] <mib_0a74nf> same
#1635 [18:08] <wikket> it would be a shame to quit minecraft
#1636 [18:08] <mib_0a74nf> Thank you for the help much apprichated
#1637 [18:08] * guest-671113-18505 [guest-671113-18505@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1638 [18:08] <wikket> yeah thanks for trying
#1639 [18:08] <mib_0a74nf> oops spelled that wronk
#1640 [18:09] <mib_0a74nf> wrong*
#1641 [18:09] <Daihak> If ne1's around please try and join my server I just tried my first map load but people say they can't find it even tohugh its hosted and im in it
#1642 [18:09] <Daihak> Not sure whats wrong
#1643 [18:09] <mib_0a74nf> Are there any other places i can try?
#1644 [18:09] <wikket> Daihak I tried doing that a couple months ago and my server was a local server. Friends could play when they were at my house, that might be the problem
#1645 [18:10] <wikket> you have to make it public somehow, i never figured that part out
#1646 [18:10] <mib_0a74nf> how do i change my name
#1647 [18:10] <Daihak> it's the 1.8 minecraft serve roff of the site I had a helper from here enter my server before i had a map attached so it used to work
#1648 [18:10] <wikket> okay
#1649 [18:11] <Daihak> I have a feeling im just using the wrong name or somthing
#1650 [18:11] <Daihak> but I don't know where to change the host name
#1651 [18:11] <Iridium> when i kill these slimes with lava i don't seem to be getting any slimeballs
#1652 [18:11] <Daihak> I used 127.0.0.1 becayse when I use my personal Ip it doesen't run properly that could be it to
#1653 [18:12] <Tman> MAC ANYBODY?
#1654 [18:12] <Daihak> macs are laaaaame!
#1655 [18:12] <wikket> yes
#1656 [18:12] <Tman> Thx
#1657 [18:12] <Daihak> jk ;p
#1658 [18:12] <Tman> ik
#1659 [18:12] <Iridium> is this supposed to happen?
#1660 [18:12] <wikket> i am
#1661 [18:12] <Daihak> they are fine for progarmmers but for gaming pffffft
#1662 [18:12] <Daihak> yes
#1663 [18:12] <Tman> So whats ur prob
#1664 [18:12] <Daihak> Iridium
#1665 [18:13] <Daihak> are you joking?
#1666 [18:13] <Iridium> no
#1667 [18:13] <Daihak> lava destroys all item drops
#1668 [18:13] <wikket> hahha
#1669 [18:13] <wikket> it burns the items
#1670 [18:13] <Iridium> the lava is on top
#1671 [18:13] <Daihak> it doesent matter
#1672 [18:13] <Iridium> i'm getting other drops
#1673 [18:13] <Tman> no
#1674 [18:13] <TheNoodle> Okay, now that i'm back
#1675 [18:13] <Iridium> hmm
#1676 [18:13] <TheNoodle> Who needs help? :P
#1677 [18:13] <Tman> MAC HELP
#1678 [18:13] <Daihak> the only chance you have is if the item pops out away from the lava or you manage to snatch it before fire takes effect
#1679 [18:13] <Daihak> ME
#1680 [18:14] <Daihak> go in my server ><
#1681 [18:14] <wikket> well me, but we couldn't figure out the online thing
#1682 [18:14] <Tman> does any one have a server i can join
#1683 [18:14] <Iridium> isn't that how mob farms work?
#1684 [18:14] <Daihak> would hosting with 127.0.0.1 stop others from joining?
#1685 [18:14] <TheNoodle> Tman, http://minestatus.net
#1686 [18:14] <TheNoodle> lol
#1687 [18:14] <Iridium> using lava suspended 1 block above the mobs?
#1688 [18:14] <TheNoodle> 127.0.0.1 is a local address, it points to your own computer.
#1689 [18:15] <Daihak> yes but i dont tell others to join 127.0.0.1
#1690 [18:15] <TheNoodle> lol
#1691 [18:15] <Daihak> what do they join
#1692 [18:15] <Daihak> i told him to use my ip and it didnt work
#1693 [18:15] <TheNoodle> They join your external, port forwarded ip address.
#1694 [18:15] <TheNoodle> you need to forward port 25565 http://portforward.com
#1695 [18:15] <Daihak> ive done that already
#1696 [18:15] <Daihak> a helper from here was on my server
#1697 [18:16] <Daihak> but then i loaded a map
#1698 [18:16] <Daihak> and now D:
#1699 [18:16] <TheNoodle> ip?
#1700 [18:16] <Daihak> [6:03:20 PM] CaramonMajere: 64.231.222.77 is my ip
#1701 [18:16] <wikket> i wish minecraft would stop being so silly and realize that i am clearly connected to the internet...
#1702 [18:16] <wikket> so i could play
#1703 [18:16] <TheNoodle> Wikket, os?
#1704 [18:16] <wikket> huh?
#1705 [18:17] <wikket> version?
#1706 [18:17] <Daihak> operating system
#1707 [18:17] <wikket> 10.6.8
#1708 [18:17] <TheNoodle> Operating system, ie, windows, os x
#1709 [18:17] <wikket> os x
#1710 [18:17] <TheNoodle> any firewalls blocking minecraft?
#1711 [18:17] <wikket> dont think so, but how can i check that?
#1712 [18:17] <Daihak> its probly your internet provider
#1713 [18:17] <Daihak> did you check at 192.168.2.1
#1714 [18:17] <TheNoodle> That's an internal ip
#1715 [18:17] <Daihak> yes
#1716 [18:18] <TheNoodle> ie, we cannot connect to it.
#1717 [18:18] <Daihak> but he can check his retail modem firewal lthere
#1718 [18:18] <TheNoodle> No...
#1719 [18:18] <wikket> what does it mean if its my internet provider? I can't play?
#1720 [18:18] <Daihak> o ?? I thought that was universal
#1721 [18:18] <TheNoodle> Only some routers use that address.
#1722 [18:18] <Tman> what company gives u inet
#1723 [18:18] <Daihak> i c
#1724 [18:18] <Daihak> my bad
#1725 [18:18] <TheNoodle> Mine uses 192.168.1.254
#1726 [18:18] <Daihak> you need to find your providers ip
#1727 [18:18] <wikket> no i know what internet provider is, but do i have to contact them or something to fix it?
#1728 [18:18] <TheNoodle> wikket, I don't think it's your sip.
#1729 [18:19] <Daihak> and check to see that minecraft is excepted
#1730 [18:19] <TheNoodle> Can you log into the client wikket?
#1731 [18:19] <Tman> wikket, call them
#1732 [18:19] <Daihak> I had that issue before i could host as well
#1733 [18:19] <Daihak> i had to unblock it in my internet providers modem
#1734 [18:19] <wikket> This all happened when I tried to download TooManyItems
#1735 [18:20] <wikket> and i downloaded an earlier version, so it made my minecraft freeze
#1736 [18:20] <wikket> so i reset a ton of stuff
#1737 [18:20] <wikket> and now it says i have to play online once to play offline, and it wont let me connect
#1738 [18:20] <Daihak> TheNoodle were you able to get on my server?
#1739 [18:20] <TheNoodle> I'd like to point out, that it has nothing to do with his isp, so please stop saying it does.
#1740 [18:20] <TheNoodle> Daihak, no.
#1741 [18:21] <TheNoodle> Wikket, what is the exact message it gives you when you try to log in?
#1742 [18:21] <wikket> Cannot connect to minecraft.net (underneath that) Play online once to enable offline
#1743 [18:21] <TheNoodle> and what do you see at this address? http://login.minecraft.net
#1744 [18:21] <wikket> Bad Login
#1745 [18:22] <TheNoodle> mmk, so that's working...
#1746 [18:22] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1747 [18:23] <TheNoodle> wikket, Choose System Preferences from the Apple menu.
#1748 [18:23] <wikket> any thoughts?
#1749 [18:23] <wikket> okay
#1750 [18:23] <TheNoodle> Click Security. Click the Firewall tab.
#1751 [18:23] <wikket> check "Off"?
#1752 [18:23] <Daihak> [INFO] Done (26479479096ns)! For help, type "help" or "?"
#1753 [18:23] <Daihak> oop wrong post
#1754 [18:24] <TheNoodle> Is the firewall on wikket?
#1755 [18:24] <Daihak> [INFO] /127.0.0.1:61223 lost connection
#1756 [18:24] <wikket> no the firewall is off it says
#1757 [18:24] <TheNoodle> hmm
#1758 [18:24] <TheNoodle> so it's not that either
#1759 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Have you done a mac/reinst?
#1760 [18:24] <Daihak> this 61223 is that the port I should tell hem to use?
#1761 [18:24] <Daihak> them*
#1762 [18:24] <wikket> what is that?
#1763 [18:25] <Iridium> in your server.properties what port does it say there?
#1764 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - Nope, port's in the server.properties. Default is 25565 Daihak
#1765 [18:25] <Daihak> yea i allowed it
#1766 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> ??> wikket mac/reinst
#1767 [18:25] <VoxelHead> wikket: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1768 [18:25] <CrusaderDeleters> wikket, its reinstall
#1769 [18:25] <Daihak> whats that line mean then
#1770 [18:25] <VoxelHead> wikket: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1771 [18:25] <TheNoodle> Grey, yes.
#1772 [18:25] <wikket> okay
#1773 [18:25] <wikket> ill try, i did this before and thats the message it gave me after i did it
#1774 [18:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright so grey, the problem is is that noone can enter his server?
#1775 [18:25] <wikket> so i dont think i have bin anymore
#1776 [18:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Then it should reinstall, wikket.
#1777 [18:26] <TheNoodle> He cannot log in CrusaderDeleters.
#1778 [18:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh.
#1779 [18:26] <wikket> so reinstall Minecraft?
#1780 [18:26] <Daihak> yes thats my issue I had a helper enter before but ive redled and put a map on it since then
#1781 [18:26] <Daihak> and players cant get in
#1782 [18:26] <wikket> should i delete minecraft and then re-download it?
#1783 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - Did you recheck all your port forwarding?
#1784 [18:27] <CrusaderDeleters> wikket, when you click on the launcher
#1785 [18:27] <Daihak> in the server I have 25565 and port 25565 is open on my modem
#1786 [18:27] <CrusaderDeleters> you click options, and then you hit on force update.
#1787 [18:27] <Daihak> should I have my ip as the world name is that what they join by?
#1788 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - Did you check to see that port 25565 is forwarded to the right IP address?
#1789 [18:27] <TheNoodle> CrusaderDeleters, He cannot log in.
#1790 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - No
#1791 [18:27] <wikket> yeah I can't log in at all
#1792 [18:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh.
#1793 [18:28] <Daihak> how do i check that again ?
#1794 [18:28] <wikket> it tells me im not connected to minecraft.net
#1795 [18:28] <TheNoodle> said that twice >.>
#1796 [18:28] <CrusaderDeleters> I bet you went through a new client?
#1797 [18:28] <CrusaderDeleters> thenoodle, I was talking about daihak :P
#1798 [18:28] <TheNoodle> lies.
#1799 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - How did you port forward before?
#1800 [18:28] <TheNoodle> :P
#1801 [18:28] <wikket> i've had minecraft for a long time... this is the first problem i've had and it's just because i tried to download a minecraft program
#1802 [18:28] <CrusaderDeleters> lol. So then have you guys went through a new client?
#1803 [18:28] <Daihak> hreough my internal ip for my providers modem I allowed that port and through my firewall
#1804 [18:29] <Daihak> through*
#1805 [18:29] <CrusaderDeleters> wikket, this is post 1.8, right?
#1806 [18:29] <CrusaderDeleters> you only exp this after 1.8 update?
#1807 [18:29] <wikket> yeah
#1808 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - Got teamviewer?
#1809 [18:29] <CrusaderDeleters> try a new client if you didnt.
#1810 [18:30] <wikket> im sorry i feel stupid, what does that mean
#1811 [18:30] <wikket> download minecraft from a different spot or something?
#1812 [18:30] <CrusaderDeleters> that's absurd, thenoodle. Mods have no effect onto logging into mc.
#1813 [18:30] <Daihak> I think you might have the issue my ip changed since I first got server running
#1814 [18:31] <Daihak> but i dont know how to forward to my new ip
#1815 [18:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Wikket, minecraft.net > downlooad
#1816 [18:31] <CrusaderDeleters> that's what I am talking about.
#1817 [18:31] <wikket> okay
#1818 [18:31] <wikket> thanks
#1819 [18:31] <CrusaderDeleters> The problem is either you have a pre-1.8, or you were hacked.
#1820 [18:31] <Daihak> and no im scared to let somone team view me lol
#1821 [18:31] <CrusaderDeleters> hrm...
#1822 [18:32] <CrusaderDeleters> how are you pm'ing me? XD
#1823 [18:32] <wikket> Thanks all!!
#1824 [18:32] <Daihak> ..
#1825 [18:32] <CrusaderDeleters> so it worked, wikket? :D
#1826 [18:33] <TheNoodle> He left.
#1827 [18:33] <CrusaderDeleters> :L
#1828 [18:33] <CrusaderDeleters> I wish they'd stick around to see if we asked if it worked.
#1829 [18:33] <TheNoodle> But considering that it was working with 1.8.1 before, it wasn't that :p
#1830 [18:33] <Iridium> you using windows daihak?
#1831 [18:34] <Daihak> mhmm
#1832 [18:34] <Daihak> vista
#1833 [18:34] <Daihak> home prem
#1834 [18:34] <CrusaderDeleters> lol vista is not a good gamer pc XP
#1835 [18:34] <Iridium> ok to forward your ports you want to open cmd, type ipconfig, then you'
#1836 [18:34] <Daihak> yea well I aint buying another and xp is to outdated for me to even get on the net to get drivers
#1837 [18:34] <Iridium> you will see a number called default gateway
#1838 [18:35] <Iridium> type that into your browser
#1839 [18:35] <Iridium> that'll log you into you router/modem
#1840 [18:35] <Daihak> yes Ive been through al lthat
#1841 [18:35] <Iridium> oh
#1842 [18:35] * Feliciana [Feliciana@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1843 [18:35] <Feliciana> hi
#1844 [18:35] <Daihak> allowed minecraft
#1845 [18:35] <Iridium> then what's the problem?
#1846 [18:35] <Daihak> i think the problem is the ip change and now somhow im not portforwarded correctly
#1847 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - If you've been through all that, what ipv4 address are you port forwarding to?
#1848 [18:36] <Feliciana> I installed bukkit with essentials : now i can have what i want ... what is the interest of the game ? what can i do please ?
#1849 [18:36] <Daihak> i dont know lol I dont know where to find that i forgot
#1850 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Feliciana - Anything you want.
#1851 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - Same place, cmd -> ipconfig
#1852 [18:36] <Daihak> i just followed directions and forgot lol
#1853 [18:36] * mib_sedkgz [mib_sedkgz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1854 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> What does ipv4 address give you? That's the address you port forward to
#1855 [18:37] <Daihak> i really ought to write down some of these handy prog links and sites
#1856 [18:37] <Daihak> it doesent want to run
#1857 [18:37] <Daihak> ipconfig
#1858 [18:37] <Iridium> try 'run as admin' for cmd
#1859 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> From the top. You went to start -> typed in cmd at the search bar, right?
#1860 [18:38] <Daihak> yes
#1861 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, you typed in: ipconfig
#1862 [18:38] <mib_sedkgz> hi ! i have a question for you my minecraft game have the sounds and the music off and when i try to turn it on a page pup out and it says a fatal error...
#1863 [18:38] <Daihak> the prog came up
#1864 [18:38] <Daihak> on mine i just type in start bar
#1865 [18:38] <Iridium> it's a path error, i get the same one
#1866 [18:38] <Iridium> the way i work around it is typing out the path
#1867 [18:38] <Iridium> C:\Windows\system32\ipconfig
#1868 [18:38] <mib_sedkgz> how i can solve the error
#1869 [18:38] <Iridium> typing that into cmd gives me my ip
#1870 [18:39] <Iridium> i really ought to figure out how to fix that
#1871 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Did you mess with environment variables at all?
#1872 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Common cause
#1873 [18:39] <Iridium> yes
#1874 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#1875 [18:39] <Daihak> yes i found ipconfig but it just opens and shuts immediatly
#1876 [18:39] <Iridium> oh
#1877 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> You probably left out the path to some of the basic cmd commands
#1878 [18:39] * corinanth [corinanth@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1879 [18:39] <Daihak> even as admin
#1880 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Did you type in cmd, or ipconfig directly?
#1881 [18:40] <Iridium> well i followed some tut to edit that for java
#1882 [18:40] <Iridium> cmd
#1883 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Is probably what screwed you up
#1884 [18:40] <Daihak> i just typed ipconfig in start menu and a program link to ipconfig comes up i clicked to open it it opens a black text box and closes
#1885 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> er, sorry.
#1886 [18:40] <Iridium> any ideas how i'd fix that?
#1887 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - You need to type in, cmd directly
#1888 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - What operating system are you on?
#1889 [18:40] <Iridium> windows 7
#1890 [18:40] <mib_sedkgz> vista
#1891 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - When the black command prompt opens, that's where you put in ipconfig
#1892 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - One moment please
#1893 [18:41] <Daihak> k done
#1894 [18:41] <Iridium> ok
#1895 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Do you know how to get to your environment variables?
#1896 [18:41] <Iridium> yes
#1897 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - Look for ipv4 address
#1898 [18:41] <Daihak> 192.168.2.10
#1899 [18:41] <mib_sedkgz> how o can solve my problem ?
#1900 [18:41] <Daihak> default 192.168.2.1
#1901 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Please go to it. Look for the path variable, please copy and paste it here
#1902 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - So, your current computer's internal ip address is 192.168.2.10
#1903 [18:41] <Daihak> but thats my providers ip not my comps
#1904 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> That is your computer's ip address
#1905 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> 2.10
#1906 [18:42] <Daihak> how come when i use whatismyip.com
#1907 [18:42] <mib_sedkgz> how i can solve my problem ?
#1908 [18:42] <Daihak> i get totally differnt
#1909 [18:42] <Daihak> [6:03:20 PM] CaramonMajere: 64.231.222.77
#1910 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - There's two seperate ip addresses, one is your public ip address that your ISP gives you. One is your private internal IP address that your modem/router gives you
#1911 [18:42] <Iridium> C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD APP\bin\x86_64;C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD APP\bin\x86;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin;C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static
#1912 [18:43] <Iridium> no idea what that's all about
#1913 [18:43] <Daihak> so the public one is the 192 one ?
#1914 [18:43] * CruelNoise [CruelNoise@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1915 [18:43] <Daihak> and thats what they need?
#1916 [18:43] <Iridium> no that's the internal
#1917 [18:43] <Daihak> o
#1918 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - No, the 64.231.222.77 is your external
#1919 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> That's the one you give to others
#1920 [18:43] <Daihak> so they need my internal
#1921 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> No
#1922 [18:43] <Iridium> whatismyip.com
#1923 [18:43] <Daihak> i tried telling them to use 64.etc it didnt work
#1924 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> the 192.168.2.10 address is what you port forward to, using your modem
#1925 [18:44] <Daihak> and how do i check to see if its portforwarded properly
#1926 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - If you let one of us teamviewer you, we can solve this in 5 minutes
#1927 [18:44] <seang96> can anyone help me out with converting warps from essentials to commandbook?
#1928 [18:45] <Daihak> blah and steal my porn stash and my online bank with my 5.72 in it ><
#1929 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> seang96 - #bukkit
#1930 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - pfft
#1931 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Alright, you'll want to add this into the beginning:
#1932 [18:45] <Daihak> i ws warned not to use teamviewer because i use online purchasing with visa and paypal and online bank so ;/
#1933 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;
#1934 [18:46] <seang96> daihak
#1935 [18:46] <seang96> just watch them when they are controlling
#1936 [18:46] <seang96> if you dont like what they do hit the power button
#1937 [18:46] <Daihak> mm
#1938 [18:46] <Iridium> nope, still not recognising commands
#1939 [18:46] <Daihak> only takes 5 secs to dl a keylogger
#1940 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Did you close and reopen the cmd prompt?
#1941 [18:47] <Daihak> !!!
#1942 [18:47] <Iridium> yup
#1943 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - So you have, in your path right now:
#1944 [18:47] <Daihak> bah
#1945 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> %SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD APP\bin\x86_64;C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD APP\bin\x86;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin;C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static
#1946 [18:47] <seang96> theyd have to activate it on your pc to get it running :P
#1947 [18:47] <Daihak> link me to the dayum teamviewer im not that rich anyway
#1948 [18:47] <Iridium> ahh
#1949 [18:47] <Iridium> that's got it
#1950 [18:47] <seang96> google teamviewer
#1951 [18:48] <Iridium> i managed to paste in a tab :P
#1952 [18:48] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1952 [18:48] <Daihak> O.o
#1953 [18:48] <Daihak> -_-
#1954 [18:48] <Iridium> thanks
#1955 [18:48] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1955 [18:48] <JohnEBH> ??> Daihak teamviewer
#1956 [18:48] <VoxelHead> Daihak: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1957 [18:48] <VoxelHead> Daihak: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1958 [18:48] <JohnEBH> Link ^
#1959 [18:49] <Iridium> actually.... if i leave that tab in there will anything else screw up besides my cmd?
#1960 [18:49] <Iridium> because i've got a mate who fancies himself as a bit of a hacker
#1961 [18:49] <Iridium> and he was playing around in my cmd the other day
#1962 [18:50] <Daihak> alright i got it ><
#1963 [18:50] <Iridium> it felt so good watching him fail at inputting commands
#1964 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Eh...
#1965 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> I wouldn't recommend it
#1966 [18:51] <Daihak> so who wants to hack my comp ?
#1967 [18:51] <Iridium> yeah i suppose i should just physically stop him using my cmd
#1968 [18:51] <Daihak> zz
#1969 [18:52] <Daihak> ...
#1970 [18:53] <Daihak> ...
#1971 [18:54] <Daihak> noone ?
#1972 [18:54] <Iridium> nah, we're here to help or be helped
#1973 [18:55] <Iridium> not hack people :P
#1974 [18:55] <Daihak> Address assignment :
#1975 [18:57] <Daihak> Additionally, for Internet public hosting of applications or servers associated with static or public IP addresses, you can map a device to a specific public fixed IP address or to the next unassigned address from the public pool. The default public IP device mapping is to the router WAN IP address.
#1976 [18:58] <Daihak> gawd dangit I make one sarcastic remark and they leave me to rot -_-
#1977 [18:58] <TheNoodle> lol
#1978 [19:01] * Prof_Plague [Prof_Plague@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1979 [19:01] <Prof_Plague> i need help running minecraft
#1980 [19:01] <Prof_Plague> if anyone can help
#1981 [19:02] <Prof_Plague> Anyone?
#1982 [19:02] <Justin88> Click minecraft
#1983 [19:02] <Justin88> Lol j/k im sure someone will help
#1984 [19:02] <TheNoodle> lol
#1985 [19:02] <Justin88> But Before that I would try to list all of your problems exactly as much as you can
#1986 [19:02] <TheNoodle> What's your problem?
#1987 [19:02] <Prof_Plague> it keeps going black as soon as i log in
#1988 [19:02] * TheNytangel [TheNytangel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1989 [19:03] <Prof_Plague> im not playing the in browser
#1990 [19:03] <Prof_Plague> im playing it downloaded
#1991 [19:03] <Justin88> the minecraft website seems to be very laggy
#1992 [19:03] <Prof_Plague> is that what it is?
#1993 [19:04] <Prof_Plague> because i just got a new computer today and i was wondering if thats what it was
#1994 [19:04] * johnz [johnz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1995 [19:04] <Iridium> have you tried getting fresh install files by deleting your bin folder?
#1996 [19:04] <Prof_Plague> i got a new one. i got a new computer
#1997 [19:04] * x [x@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1998 [19:04] <Iridium> oh
#1999 [19:04] <Iridium> is your java up to date?
#2000 [19:04] <johnz> can someone help me out?
#2001 [19:04] <Prof_Plague> yes, just reinstalled it
#2002 [19:05] <|Kiikun|> Prof_Plague: it goes black right after the mojang logo?
#2003 [19:05] <Prof_Plague> no mojang logo at all
#2004 [19:05] <Prof_Plague> as soon as i log in, it blacks out
#2005 [19:05] <|Kiikun|> Prof_Plague: update video drivers and java.
#2006 [19:06] <Prof_Plague> how do i update the video drivers?
#2007 [19:06] <|Kiikun|> Prof_Plague: What OS do you use? Windows, Mac, Linux, Yggdrasil, Niddhog, or Magical-Lunar?
#2008 [19:06] * |Kiikun| needs to alter that alias :P
#2008 [19:06] <Justin88> Also do tell if your'e trying to mod you minecraft with things such as optifine etc
#2009 [19:07] <|Kiikun|> yes. since ytou said you already tried deleting the /bin folder im asumign you havent installed any mods
#2010 [19:07] <Prof_Plague> im not modding
#2011 [19:07] <Prof_Plague> i use windows
#2012 [19:07] <|Kiikun|> Prof_Plague: do you happen to know what video card you have?
#2013 [19:08] <Prof_Plague> how can i figure out?
#2014 [19:08] <|Kiikun|> ??> Prof_Plague dx
#2015 [19:08] <VoxelHead> Prof_Plague: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2016 [19:08] <VoxelHead> Prof_Plague: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2017 [19:08] <Daihak> somone teamview me and get this dayum server working >< arrrgh
#2018 [19:08] <Iridium> those last 3 os' aren't real are they?
#2019 [19:08] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: nope :P
#2020 [19:08] <Justin88> they are
#2021 [19:08] <Iridium> ok good, lol
#2022 [19:09] <Justin88> http://www.google.com/search?q=yggdrasil+os&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
#2023 [19:09] <Prof_Plague> okay voxel brb
#2024 [19:09] <Daihak> i lol'd
#2025 [19:09] <TheNytangel> !ping
#2026 [19:09] <GreyBot> TheNytangel Your Ping time was 0.89 seconds.
#2027 [19:09] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: Yggdrasil and Niddhog only exist if your in an Ah! My Goddess universe... and the last is basicly ant technomagic verse :P
#2028 [19:09] <Daihak> !ping
#2029 [19:09] <Daihak> pfft
#2030 [19:09] <lemon-rev> lol
#2031 [19:09] * |Kiikun| is anime geek
#2031 [19:09] <lemon-rev> oopse
#2032 [19:10] <Justin88> Lol, the last two aren't real but Yggdrasil Linux is
#2033 [19:10] <Justin88> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yggdrasil_Linux/GNU/X
#2034 [19:10] * |Kiikun| shrugs
#2034 [19:10] <Iridium> wow, what an.... interesting name
#2035 [19:11] <|Kiikun|> not surprised. yggdrasil = world tree in norse mithology
#2036 [19:11] <Justin88> yup
#2037 [19:11] <Prof_Plague> http://pastebin.com/XihifV4F
#2038 [19:11] <Justin88> its popular
#2039 [19:11] <Prof_Plague> there we go
#2040 [19:11] <Daihak> maybe ill just completly disable all my firewalls and make everything public
#2041 [19:11] <Daihak> and teamview everyone to my server they can just play through my comp
#2042 [19:11] <Justin88> Ouch .... 128MB ATI RADEON X600 SE
#2043 [19:12] <Prof_Plague> ?
#2044 [19:12] <Daihak> or tree of life
#2045 [19:12] <|Kiikun|> Prof_Plague: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#2046 [19:12] * fuzziyeti [fuzziyeti@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2047 [19:13] <|Kiikun|> Prof_Plague: scroll down and download and instal lthe video driver
#2048 [19:13] <|Kiikun|> wait.. crap dell :/
#2049 [19:13] * |Kiikun| rages and gets the dell link
#2049 [19:14] <Prof_Plague> download it?
#2050 [19:14] <Prof_Plague> download which?
#2051 [19:14] <|Kiikun|> Prof_Plague: never mind that link.. dell doesnt like generic drivers.
#2052 [19:14] * w [w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2053 [19:14] <Prof_Plague> oh...
#2054 [19:15] <Justin88> also for like 50 bucks im sure u can upgrade that video card
#2055 [19:15] <Prof_Plague> so? what should i download?
#2056 [19:15] <|Kiikun|> Prof_Plague: http://ftp.us.dell.com/video/R133173.EXE this one
#2057 [19:15] <Justin88> your current one is only worth about 8 - 10 $
#2058 [19:16] <Prof_Plague> that one kiikun
#2059 [19:16] <Prof_Plague> dowenload?
#2060 [19:16] <Justin88> yes
#2061 [19:16] <Justin88> he said that one
#2062 [19:16] <Justin88> the one that says dell
#2063 [19:16] <|Kiikun|> Prof_Plague: yes that link from dell. install it and it will update your drivers
#2064 [19:16] <Prof_Plague> yes! thanks!
#2065 [19:16] <Prof_Plague> ill tell you if ity works
#2066 [19:17] <|Kiikun|> if that DOESNT work, then we reinstall java next.
#2067 [19:18] * Ninemmtylenol [Ninemmtylenol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2068 [19:19] <Prof_Plague> that will work, right?
#2069 [19:19] <Prof_Plague> its still downloading
#2070 [19:20] <|Kiikun|> Prof_Plague: unless we had an actual error message its impossible to know definately what will fix it :P im simply having you take steps to remove possibilites
#2071 [19:20] * mib_6h9wcg [mib_6h9wcg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2072 [19:21] <|Kiikun|> brb
#2073 [19:21] * kermi [kermi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2074 [19:21] <Justin88> I dont understand why people who play games dont know what a video card is or why they should upgrade their 10 $ card
#2075 [19:21] <Chris|ZzZ> ^
#2076 [19:22] <kermi> when ever i play minecraft it closes out on its own a puts a file on my desktop how do i fix this
#2077 [19:22] * EricReitz [EricReitz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2078 [19:23] <Chris|ZzZ> hs_err_pid?
#2079 [19:23] <kermi> ...
#2080 [19:23] <Justin88> did you examine the file it puts on your desktop? name , extension ( the parrt after the '.' ), contents?
#2081 [19:23] <Prof_Plague> dont be mean to me justin
#2082 [19:23] <Justin88> Was I mean to you ? or did i simply state how I felt
#2083 [19:23] * guest-671113-21861 [guest-671113-21861@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2084 [19:23] <Prof_Plague> in a mean way
#2085 [19:24] <Justin88> I didnt say hey you you should do this this and this because of bla bla
#2086 [19:24] <Prof_Plague> true... i spologize
#2087 [19:24] <Daihak> DirectX Game (DirectPlay) host TCP 47624 Public 64.231.222.77 Private 192.168.2.10
#2088 [19:24] <Prof_Plague> #apologoze
#2089 [19:24] <Prof_Plague> oh my god
#2090 [19:24] <Daihak> should i use that port instead?
#2091 [19:24] <Prof_Plague> cant spell
#2092 [19:24] <Justin88> It was only mean to you because you decided to interpret it that way. It was merely an intelligent expression of how i felt
#2093 [19:24] * almostroot [almostroot@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2094 [19:24] <Justin88> i cant either, i have big fingers
#2095 [19:25] <Prof_Plague> well i do know what video cards are, just didn't know how to check em
#2096 [19:25] <kermi> yes i even sent an error report to java but they never replied, my friend said i got asome sort of bug, but i didnt get it untill the 1.8 update
#2097 [19:25] <Justin88> but what you should do now
#2098 [19:25] <Justin88> if you have money at least is find out your motherboard and buy a new card for cheap and it'll help out a lot
#2099 [19:26] <almostroot> What is everyone's respective issue relating to Minecraft?
#2100 [19:26] * frogmella [frogmella@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2101 [19:26] <Justin88> The one you have right nor is about 10-20$ i would shoot for about 50+, because this is MINECRAFTHELP
#2102 [19:26] <kermi> when ever i play minecraft it closes out on its own a puts a file on my desktop how do i fix this
#2103 [19:26] <Daihak> DirectX Game (DirectPlay) host TCP 47624 Public 64.231.222.77 Private 192.168.2.10
#2104 [19:26] <Daihak> thats my issue
#2105 [19:26] <Justin88> @Kermi well if you shared that info here it might help
#2106 [19:26] <almostroot> kermi: Put the contents of the file on pastebin.com and provide us with the link.
#2107 [19:27] <kermi> the info of the file
#2108 [19:27] <almostroot> ??> kermi pastebin
#2109 [19:27] <VoxelHead> kermi: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2110 [19:27] <Justin88> yea like what type of file it is what its called and whats in it
#2111 [19:27] <kermi> ok brb
#2112 [19:27] <almostroot> kermi: Yes, the contents of the file that minecraft creates.
#2113 [19:27] <almostroot> Daihak: What is that in relation to?
#2114 [19:27] <frogmella> i bought minecraft and i downloaded it and it said i dont have premium, please help
#2115 [19:27] <Daihak> my inability to host
#2116 [19:27] <almostroot> frogmella: When did you purchase that?
#2117 [19:28] <almostroot> Daihak: Does your local server work if you try to connect to localhost
#2118 [19:28] <almostroot> ?
#2119 [19:28] <frogmella> bout 10 mins ago
#2120 [19:28] <almostroot> ??> frogmella payment
#2121 [19:28] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#2122 [19:28] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#2123 [19:28] <Justin88> frogmella minecraft is going a lil slow right now that might be the problem right now in this instance, did you use viso or a CC ?
#2124 [19:29] * Rehevkor [Rehevkor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2125 [19:29] <Daihak> almost can you just teamview me its much easier
#2126 [19:29] <Justin88> also if you use this !paid JPhreak command you can check your status, like thats my user so it does this
#2127 [19:29] <Justin88> !paid JPhreak
#2128 [19:29] <almostroot> Daihak: Nope, refuse to solve people's problems for them. Just suggestions so they can solve the problems on their own.
#2129 [19:29] <Justin88> !paid JPhreak
#2130 [19:29] <Justin88> o.O
#2131 [19:30] <almostroot> !paid almostroot
#2132 [19:30] <Justin88> ok lol a lil slow
#2133 [19:30] <Daihak> alright well
#2134 [19:30] <kermi> i pasted it to paste bin and called it minecraft problems
#2135 [19:30] <Iridium> !paid yourmom
#2136 [19:30] <Justin88> grab the link in the adress and paste it here
#2137 [19:30] <almostroot> kermi: We need the address of the page that it took you to after you submitted it.
#2138 [19:30] <Thrae> Daihak: Most helpers have a requirement of basic troubleshooting steps being completed first -- only when we run out of things to do or it's complicated for the average user.
#2139 [19:30] <Daihak> can you attempt to join my server so i can see if what im messing with works lol
#2140 [19:30] <Iridium> :o tell your mom to go pay for minecraft now!
#2141 [19:30] <frogmella> i purchased it w/ mastercard
#2142 [19:30] <kermi> http://pastebin.com/yE3mwd7W
#2143 [19:30] <Daihak> ive been through alot of steps
#2144 [19:31] <Daihak> we had it working
#2145 [19:31] <Justin88> Ill attempt it
#2146 [19:31] <kermi> ohhhhhhh ok
#2147 [19:31] <almostroot> AuBot: MArry me.
#2148 [19:31] <almostroot> kermi: May want to also update Java to the latest update as well.
#2149 [19:31] <almostroot> ??> kermi getjava
#2150 [19:31] <VoxelHead> kermi: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#2151 [19:31] <kermi> when is 1.9 comeing out
#2152 [19:31] <almostroot> kermi: November. Minecon.
#2153 [19:32] <Thrae> kermi: "Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2" -- weren't you here earlier? Didn't I tell you go to Windows Update and update your video card drivers, among other things?
#2154 [19:32] <kermi> ok
#2155 [19:32] <Daihak> i changed my ip somhow i forget how now so it might not be the right p im telling people to use i also might not have portforwarded properly to the new ip and I might have mucked a setting in my modem
#2156 [19:32] <Thrae> kermi: I think you have a Pentium 4 with an ATI Radeon 9xxx series card? Probably AGP, too.
#2157 [19:32] <Justin88> !ip Daihak
#2158 [19:32] <Daihak> i have no clue how to portforward i was walked through it and dont remember
#2159 [19:32] <almostroot> ;ip Daihak
#2160 [19:32] <WugBot> IP address of Daihak is: 64.231.222.77
#2161 [19:32] <Justin88> oh yea my bad
#2162 [19:32] <Daihak> DirectX Game (DirectPlay) host TCP 47624 Public 64.231.222.77 Private 192.168.2.10
#2163 [19:32] <kermi> well i cant download anything its not my computer, but im getting a new one soon
#2164 [19:33] <Daihak> i dont know why my modem gives me that
#2165 [19:33] <Daihak> TCP 47624
#2166 [19:33] <Thrae> Daihak: www.portforward.com has instructions for most routers
#2167 [19:33] <kermi> i have to go now thank you all for the help
#2168 [19:33] <almostroot> Daihak: Are they connecting to your server using this: 64.231.222.77:47624
#2169 [19:33] <Daihak> no
#2170 [19:33] <Daihak> 25565
#2171 [19:33] * EricReitz_ [EricReitz_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2172 [19:33] <Daihak> my server file is set to 25565
#2173 [19:33] <almostroot> Daihak: Since you aren;t using the standard port for minecraft (25565) you have to specify one.
#2174 [19:34] <Thrae> Daihak: It's probably something else on your system which uses DirectPlay, as Minecraft definitely does not
#2175 [19:34] <Daihak> cant i just wipe out the port from my modem
#2176 [19:34] <Daihak> and use 25565
#2177 [19:34] <almostroot> Daihak: Just create a new entry unless that is the one you created for Minecraft.
#2178 [19:36] <Daihak> If you change the IP address range, you must renew the DHCP lease for all devices on the network.
#2179 [19:36] <Daihak> how can i do that?
#2180 [19:36] <Daihak> cause my ip changed
#2181 [19:36] <Daihak> maybe thats an issue?
#2182 [19:36] <almostroot> Daihak: For the IP address, specify the one assigned to your computer.
#2183 [19:37] <Justin88> I attempted connecting since you asked and, nope wont work, but you already know
#2184 [19:37] <Daihak> ,my router is 192.168.2.1 my comp is 192.168.2.10
#2185 [19:37] <Daihak> but that all set
#2186 [19:37] <Daihak> thats*
#2187 [19:38] <almostroot> Daihak: Use your computer's address. As previously suggested, reference portforward.com for specific instructions.
#2188 [19:38] <Daihak> should my adress asignment be public?
#2189 [19:38] <Daihak> its private atm
#2190 [19:38] <Daihak> damnit where are you Ryadine!
#2191 [19:39] <CrusaderDeleters> I am free for anyone else to help
#2192 [19:40] <Thrae> Daihak: Are you referencing a guide?
#2193 [19:40] <Daihak> m going through my router pages mucking with stuff
#2194 [19:41] <Thrae> Daihak: Router configuration is by no means standardized and we have no way of knowing what terms mean what on your router. That's why www.portforward.com is so popular (just select "Skip Ad" when it shows one)
#2195 [19:41] <Thrae> There are literally thousands of different routers with different configuration pages
#2196 [19:42] <|Kiikun|> and all the thomson/bthome ones make my eyes bleed </rant>
#2197 [19:44] <Daihak> yea we did al lthese steps already
#2198 [19:44] <Daihak> this page is outdated
#2199 [19:45] <Thrae> So go to the router manufacturer's page and download the latest manual
#2200 [19:45] * b0xxy [b0xxy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2201 [19:47] <Daihak> port 25565 is not open port 47624 is
#2202 [19:48] <Thrae> The point of port forwarding is to open a port.
#2203 [19:49] * mau5ie [mau5ie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2204 [19:49] * uri [uri@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2205 [19:50] <Daihak> sigh i know this.
#2206 [19:50] <uri> hello
#2207 [19:50] <Daihak> can I use this other port though its a game host port
#2208 [19:50] <uri> i buy the game today
#2209 [19:50] <uri> but i dont now how to pass from 1.8 to 1.9
#2210 [19:50] * Negrero [Negrero@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2211 [19:50] <uri> any one can give me a help
#2212 [19:51] <Daihak> ill try if noone else
#2213 [19:51] <uri> thank you
#2214 [19:51] <Daihak> you need to go to the link on the homepage and dl it to desktop to start
#2215 [19:51] <Daihak> for 1.9
#2216 [19:52] * andrewkm [andrewkm@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2217 [19:52] <Daihak> http://www.minecraftforum.net/
#2218 [19:53] <Kealper> Negrero: oh hell no you don't
#2219 [19:53] * Kealper kicked Negrero from #minecrafthelp (Reason: egrero :Negrero)
#2220 [19:54] * Negrero [Negrero@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2221 [19:54] <Negrero> Tired of niggers?
#2222 [19:54] * AuBot kicked Negrero from #minecrafthelp (Reason: egrero :Please keep it civil.)
#2223 [19:54] <|Kiikun|> oh bloody...
#2224 [19:54] * Negrero [Negrero@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2225 [19:54] <Negrero> Sick of their monkeyshines?
#2226 [19:54] <Negrero> We are too!
#2227 [19:54] <Negrero> Join Chimpout Forum!
#2228 [19:54] <uri> i get a .jar file
#2229 [19:54] * VoxelHead kicked Negrero from #minecrafthelp (Reason: egrero :Banned)
#2230 [19:54] <Daihak> yes
#2231 [19:54] <Daihak> open op your minecraft folder
#2232 [19:54] <Sinistrahd> wth was that?
#2233 [19:54] <Thrae> uri: Are you using Windows, Mac, or Linux?
#2234 [19:54] <almostroot> Sinistrahd: Troll.
#2235 [19:55] <uri> done
#2236 [19:55] <Thrae> Sinistrahd: His nick means "Slave Trader" in Spanish.
#2237 [19:55] <Sinistrahd> oh ok
#2238 [19:55] <almostroot> Kealper: High five team bans?
#2239 [19:55] <Daihak> in your minecraft folder there should be an exsisting .jar file
#2240 [19:55] <Thrae> uri: It's the "bin" directory where the minecraft.jar is located
#2241 [19:55] * Kealper ^5s almostroot
#2241 [19:55] <Daihak> you want to replace the contents of your old .jar with the contents of the new .jar
#2242 [19:55] * Coll [Coll@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2243 [19:56] <uri> let me see if work
#2244 [19:56] <Daihak> after you replace it make sure the META folder is deleted
#2245 [19:56] <uri> it work
#2246 [19:56] <Daihak> then enjoy 1.9 ^^
#2247 [19:56] <uri> thank you
#2248 [19:56] <Daihak> np
#2249 [19:56] <uri> for me is enjay all
#2250 [19:56] <Thrae> Daihak: You don't need to copy the contents of the JARs
#2251 [19:56] <uri> never play
#2252 [19:57] <uri> 1 time today
#2253 [19:57] <uri> thank you alot for your help
#2254 [19:57] <Thrae> Daihak: Just overwrite the 1.8.1 jar with the 1.9-pre4 jar and you're done
#2255 [19:57] <Daihak> o i was told to open the old folder and replace files
#2256 [19:57] <Daihak> you can just swap jars ?
#2257 [19:57] <Thrae> Daihak: Nope that's only for modding. Yes, you can just swap files.
#2258 [19:57] <Daihak> well delete old put new in /
#2259 [19:57] <Daihak> hmm
#2260 [19:57] <Daihak> well i sposse thats a tad simpler
#2261 [19:58] <Thrae> Daihak: You'd only copy the contents in if you modded your 1.8.1 jar and want to keep the mods (not recommended!)
#2262 [19:58] <Thrae> (As there's a good chance those mods will be broken)
#2263 [19:58] <Daihak> will you attempt to join my server please
#2264 [19:58] <Daihak> o nvrmnd
#2265 [19:59] <Thrae> Daihak: Use /msg AuBot !check address
#2266 [19:59] <Thrae> AuBot is always happy to join servers
#2267 [20:00] <Daihak> hmm
#2268 [20:00] <Kealper> Daihak: use !check and then your server address, not literally "!check address" lol
#2269 [20:01] <Thrae> Kealper: Hey, at least his username isn't "username" ;)
#2270 [20:01] <Kealper> so if your ip was 169.254.1.2, you would say !check 169.254.1.2 :P
#2271 [20:01] * thinkfx [thinkfx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2272 [20:02] * Lykke [Lykke@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2273 [20:02] <Daihak> jesus you are new to hosting and they just immediatly consider you an idiot sigh thanks guys true intelliegnce always breeds sly remarks
#2274 [20:02] <Lykke> Can anybody help me with "[SEVERE] Exception in thread "Thread-8191"?
#2275 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> Lykke: more context is required.
#2276 [20:03] <Lykke> Server crashed after i got that
#2277 [20:03] <Thrae> Lykke: Copy the entire error to www.pastebin.com and give us the link. Also, did the server crash? Did a player disconnect? What happened?
#2278 [20:03] <Kealper> Daihak: o.o i wasn't being sly, i was informing you that you were using it wrong, so you could use said thing correctly
#2279 [20:03] <Lykke> Suspecting walking into 1.8 land
#2280 [20:03] <Lykke> -That was the entire error
#2281 [20:04] <Daihak> accually your right it wasen't sly* sorry
#2282 [20:04] <Daihak> and I wasen't aiming it at you
#2283 [20:04] <Daihak> at least my username isn't username :D
#2284 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> Lykke: okaay.. what happened immediately before the error?
#2285 [20:05] <Lykke> I got two Connection reset out of 12 users
#2286 [20:06] * Thrae wonders if that might be an out of memory error with "8191" or that's just a coincidental thread number
#2286 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> Lykke: what version of the server? Any mods? What OS?
#2287 [20:06] <username> 20:05] <AuBot> It works username, but that did not seem like a Minecraft server...
#2288 [20:06] <Kealper> username: ahh, that..he was actually saying that we get some extremely clueless people in here, and that you were not one of them lol
#2289 [20:06] <Lykke> 1.8.1, bukkit, Debian 5
#2290 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#2291 [20:06] <VoxelHead> mods: As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2292 [20:06] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit or #bukkithelp -- Mod creators can also try #mcp-modding
#2293 [20:07] <Thrae> username: Some IRC clients say: use "/nick username" to choose your name
#2294 [20:07] <Lykke> Well i tried - That's why I went on here
#2295 [20:07] <username> accually I kind of like this name
#2296 [20:08] <Thrae> Lykke: You asked in #bukkit ?
#2297 [20:08] <Thrae> Lykke: Since even the devs hang out there.
#2298 [20:08] <Lykke> No response.. Propably all asleep
#2299 [20:08] <Kealper> i'm surprised someone hasn't taken username already lol
#2300 [20:08] <username> so why am I getting this
#2301 [20:08] <username> 20:05] <AuBot> It works username, but that did not seem like a Minecraft server...
#2302 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Lykke: try running _without_ bukkit
#2303 [20:08] <Chris> username, what was the IP you're testing?
#2304 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> if the problem goes away, then it's SEP. If it still happens, we can help, possibly.
#2305 [20:08] * Kealper has to get back to "work" again
#2305 [20:08] <Lykke> I hoped it wouldn't come to that lol.. Will try tomorrow
#2306 [20:08] <username> 192.168.2.10
#2307 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> username: that's a nonrouteable IP address.
#2308 [20:09] <Thrae> DopeGhoti: SEP?
#2309 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> Somebody Else's Problem
#2310 [20:09] <username> and there I am lost again
#2311 [20:09] <Lykke> You propably has to get used to pings all the time with a username like username
#2312 [20:09] <Thrae> !check mc.matts-hosting.com:25566
#2313 [20:09] <username> its my comps given ip from my router 192.168.2.1
#2314 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> username: http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1814.txt
#2315 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> sorry, I mean
#2316 [20:10] * Chris [Chris@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2317 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> username: http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1918.txt
#2318 [20:11] <username> alrighty that can't be right because i host other games and have hosted on minecraft before
#2319 [20:12] <username> or ive somhow blocked connection
#2320 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> username ip/wan
#2321 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> username ip/external
#2322 [20:12] <VoxelHead> username: (ip/external) Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#2323 [20:12] <VoxelHead> username: (ip/external) Or just say "!myip" and aubot will tell you.
#2324 [20:12] <almostroot> ;ip username
#2325 [20:12] <WugBot> IP address of username is: 64.231.222.77
#2326 [20:12] <username> !myip
#2327 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> username: that'd be your IP address, sir or ma'am or other.
#2328 [20:12] <TheNoodle> ...I'm gonna stop now :p
#2329 [20:12] <almostroot> Can I be an other?
#2330 [20:12] <TheNoodle> PENIS
#2331 [20:12] <TheNoodle> T/FIREBALL
#2332 [20:12] <username> im an other
#2333 [20:12] <username> oo
#2334 [20:12] <TheNoodle> ..tHAT'S AWKWARD.
#2335 [20:12] <TheNoodle> sigh
#2336 [20:13] <username> im be a alien with 17 genital organs al ldiffern't
#2337 [20:13] <username> all*
#2338 [20:13] <TheNoodle> That, is what happens when you put your phone on the left hand side of your g19.
#2339 [20:13] <TheNoodle> Silly macro.
#2340 [20:13] <TheNoodle> Sorry guys >.>
#2341 [20:13] <username> yes nd it says its open
#2342 [20:13] <username> but its not a minecraft server
#2343 [20:14] <username> 20:05] <AuBot> It works username, but that did not seem like a Minecraft server...
#2344 [20:14] <username> lord ive messed my poor comp up very well
#2345 [20:15] <username> might as well play tic tac toe in space sniffer
#2346 [20:15] <Thrae> username: I believe that just means AuBot doesn't understand your server. Is it 1.9?
#2347 [20:15] <username> no 1.8
#2348 [20:15] <Thrae> username: Is it running right now?
#2349 [20:15] <username> yep
#2350 [20:15] <Thrae> Is it non-modded vanilla?
#2351 [20:15] <username> non modded
#2352 [20:15] <Thrae> !check mc.matts-hosting.com
#2353 [20:16] <username> well thats a lie it has a map dled
#2354 [20:16] <Thrae> Hmm
#2355 [20:16] <Thrae> Modded means like Bukkit, which is a Server Mod, or using ModLoaderSMP
#2356 [20:16] <username> well techncally i modified the server by removing the old world folder and replacing it
#2357 [20:16] <username> ;p
#2358 [20:17] <Thrae> Yeah that's not really "modding", but anyway, sounds like your firewall might be rejecting it
#2359 [20:17] <Thrae> username: Is the server running on Windows?
#2360 [20:17] <username> yes thrae
#2361 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> or that the router is not correctly forwarding the inbound TCP connection
#2362 [20:17] * Coll_ [Coll_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2363 [20:18] <Thrae> username: Add an exception in the firewall you use for java.exe and javaw.exe -- if you haven't installed a specific firewall then you'd be adding one for Windows Firewall
#2364 [20:18] <Thrae> DopeGhoti: Yeah, that could happen if it's being forwarded to a *different* computer which is then rejecting it
#2365 [20:19] <username> Java(TM) SE Binary
#2366 [20:19] * Ninemmtylenol [Ninemmtylenol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2367 [20:19] <Thrae> username: Yes, that's what you're adding an exception for
#2368 [20:19] <username> yes it already is
#2369 [20:20] <Thrae> username: OK, verify the port is being forward to the correct local IP
#2370 [20:22] <username> minecraft wasent being allowed i added it to list
#2371 [20:22] <username> but i dont get it I had it working before the only thing that changed was my ip and i dled a map into server
#2372 [20:22] <username> so portforwarding must be it
#2373 [20:23] <username> how can I see what ports are open
#2374 [20:23] <username> theres an option to add ports to firewall but no list of exceptions
#2375 [20:26] <username> Portchecker says it isn't open
#2376 [20:26] <username> on TCP or UDP
#2377 [20:26] <username> but I just made 2 more exceptions for both in firewall
#2378 [20:28] * mau5ie [mau5ie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2379 [20:31] <username> I made 2 new exceptions in my modem for 25565 in tcp and udp as well
#2380 [20:32] <username> how do I make sure they are forwarding to the proper ip ?
#2381 [20:32] <lemon-rev> username type !check when your server is running, so run the server and type it in here
#2382 [20:32] <DopeGhoti> username: check your router's configuration.
#2383 [20:32] <username> !check
#2384 [20:33] <|Kiikun|> !check
#2385 [20:34] <Chris> !check 64.231.222.77
#2386 [20:34] <username> go home kiikun -_-
#2387 [20:35] * downer [downer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2388 [20:35] <username> blah im done
#2389 [20:35] <username> ill just cal lbell and make them do it
#2390 [20:35] * mr_evil [mr_evil@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2391 [20:35] <username> it wont allow me to disable the modems firewal lcompletly
#2392 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> username: it's not a firewall issue
#2393 [20:36] <Chris> the modem shouldn't have a firewall... unless thats part of the router
#2394 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> if it were, you would be getting a different error.
#2395 [20:36] <username> well I duno what else to do
#2396 [20:36] * |Kiikun| bets he means the NAT.
#2396 [20:36] * downer3d [downer3d@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2397 [20:36] <username> ive open th eport on everything multiple times
#2398 [20:36] <Thrae> username: If the modem itself was rejecting it then AuBot would say it can't find it
#2399 [20:36] <mr_evil> hey can any one help me with portforwarding minecraft
#2400 [20:36] <username> ive tried every ip
#2401 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> username: It. Is. Not. A. Firewall. Issue.
#2402 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> Check your port forwarding settings on your router.
#2403 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> mr_evil: what help do you need?
#2404 [20:37] <mr_evil> any one?
#2405 [20:37] <username> yea I did
#2406 [20:37] <username> i have th epage open
#2407 [20:37] <mr_evil> me?
#2408 [20:37] <Thrae> mr_evil: Did you follow www.portforward.com yet?
#2409 [20:37] <username> yes it says they are closed
#2410 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> mr_evil: yes, you; that's why I prefaced my question with your nick.
#2411 [20:37] <mr_evil> wait who are you talking to
#2412 [20:37] <username> or cant read em
#2413 [20:38] <Thrae> <mr_evil> wait who are you talking to <-- you realize your nickname is "mr_evil", right?
#2414 [20:38] <mr_evil> yes
#2415 [20:38] <mr_evil> i need help
#2416 [20:38] * Coll_ [Coll_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2417 [20:38] <|Kiikun|> well mr_evil i have a feeling that he's talkign to mr_evil, mr_evil.
#2418 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> mr_evil: what, specifically, do you need assistance with?
#2419 [20:39] <mr_evil> portforwading minecraft
#2420 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> mr_evil: that's general. Care to be more specific?
#2421 [20:39] <mr_evil> like we have a server its just people can join
#2422 [20:39] <Thrae> mr_evil: We need you to be more specific than that. What about portforwarding are you having trouble with?
#2423 [20:39] * Coll [Coll@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2424 [20:39] <mr_evil> ummmm
#2425 [20:40] * TheNytangel [TheNytangel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2426 [20:40] <mr_evil> how to make other people join
#2427 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> pay them money?
#2428 [20:40] <Thrae> mr_evil: You mean how to find people to join your server?
#2429 [20:40] <mr_evil> cus i have ipv4 entered
#2430 [20:40] <Chris> ask them nicely?
#2431 [20:40] <mr_evil> no
#2432 [20:40] <mr_evil> no one can join
#2433 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> mr_evil: what happens when they try?
#2434 [20:40] <Thrae> mr_evil: Are you running the server on the computer you're on right now?
#2435 [20:40] <mr_evil> it has somthing to do with the
#2436 [20:41] <mr_evil> no i can tho
#2437 [20:41] * downer [downer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2438 [20:41] <mr_evil> want me to?
#2439 [20:41] * DopeGhoti doesn't want to play the "Ask the question seven times before getting the answer" game.
#2439 [20:41] <mr_evil> want me to run my server?
#2440 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> No, I want you to answer my question.
#2441 [20:42] <mr_evil> hello?
#2442 [20:42] <mr_evil> no
#2443 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> "no"?
#2444 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> ?? dont/bother
#2445 [20:42] <mr_evil> im not
#2446 [20:42] <VoxelHead> dont/bother: If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
#2447 [20:42] <mr_evil> what
#2448 [20:43] <mr_evil> no im not running it
#2449 [20:43] * Ninemmtylenol [Ninemmtylenol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2450 [20:43] <mr_evil> well
#2451 [20:44] * Bakasaur [Bakasaur@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2452 [20:44] <Thrae> mr_evil: What error message are people getting who try to connect to your server?
#2453 [20:44] <mr_evil> failed to conect to server
#2454 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> And do what address are they attempting to connect?
#2455 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> to what address, rather.
#2456 [20:44] <mr_evil> 192.168.1.150
#2457 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> mr_evil ip/private
#2458 [20:45] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (ip/private) http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1918.txt
#2459 [20:45] <mr_evil> :25565
#2460 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> Read and be enlightened
#2461 [20:46] * anomalya [anomalya@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2462 [20:46] <mr_evil> ok so
#2463 [20:46] * guest-671113-21584 [guest-671113-21584@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2464 [20:47] * Kaioshi [Kaioshi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2465 [20:47] <username> i blew up my 192.168.2.1 :D
#2466 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> ??> mr_evil ip/external
#2467 [20:47] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (ip/external) Places to go to learn your external (WAN) IP address: http://www.ipchicken.com/ http://www.moanmyip.com/ http://www.whatismyip.com/
#2468 [20:48] <username> well guess im done for now lol
#2469 [20:48] <mr_evil> iv looked at that
#2470 [20:48] * Sqozza [Sqozza@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2471 [20:48] <username> thanks for the attempts at helping
#2472 [20:48] <mr_evil> and tryed to use that
#2473 [20:48] * Sqozza [Sqozza@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#2474 [20:48] * sprocket [sprocket@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2475 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> ??> mr_evil smp/serversetup
#2476 [20:48] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#2477 [20:48] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2478 [20:48] <anomalya> I was told in #minecraft to ask this here: Is there something up with the payment processing for purchasing the game? I'm having difficulties.
#2479 [20:49] <Guest28164> is there a way to make one of MY maps into a server?
#2480 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> Guest28164: yes.
#2481 [20:49] <Guest28164> HOW?
#2482 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> anomalya: "Something up"? Care to be more specific?
#2483 [20:49] <Chris> copy and paste
#2484 [20:49] <mau5ie> anomalya. did you read the topic? :V
#2485 [20:49] <Chris> rename the folder to world
#2486 [20:49] <mr_evil> wait
#2487 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> Guest28164: copy your world's directory onto the server, ... what Chris said.
#2488 [20:49] <anomalya> about the bug tracker?
#2489 [20:49] <Guest28164> once again, how?
#2490 [20:50] <mr_evil> i use bukket
#2491 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> Guest28164: Do you userstand what 'copy' means?
#2492 [20:50] <mr_evil> is that a problem?
#2493 [20:50] <Guest28164> yes
#2494 [20:50] * Somebody [Somebody@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2495 [20:50] <mau5ie> we can't do anything about payments here. we aren't mojang :d
#2496 [20:50] <anomalya> it won't accept anything as payment. tried Visa and paypal
#2497 [20:50] <Guest28164> i need to know more specifically how to do it
#2498 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> anomalya: was the via a prepaid or gift card?
#2499 [20:50] <mau5ie> :s
#2500 [20:50] <Chris> literally, put your map inside your server folder, rename it to world, profit
#2501 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> ??> mr_evil mods
#2502 [20:50] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (mods) This channel is not a vneue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2503 [20:51] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit or #bukkithelp -- Mod creators can also try #mcp-modding
#2504 [20:51] <anomalya> okay... well. I asked in #minecraft and they said to ask here. and said it was official.
#2505 [20:51] <anomalya> so....
#2506 [20:51] <Chris> mr_evil, #bukkit
#2507 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> anomalya: we are the official support channel, yes, but we can only help so much.
#2508 [20:51] * mib_9lakfb [mib_9lakfb@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2509 [20:51] <anomalya> I did add more info to an already created ticket on getsatisfaction.
#2510 [20:51] <mib_9lakfb> i just bought it how do i download
#2511 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_9lakfb win/client
#2512 [20:52] <Thrae> anomalya: All I can suggest is call your card issuer and see if they can help. Also note you can pay with Paypal by using an account or by not using an account.
#2513 [20:52] <VoxelHead> mib_9lakfb: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#2514 [20:52] <anomalya> I did. Visa said that they were asked for and gave authorization but nothing was charged to the account
#2515 [20:52] <mr_evil> no im just having problems with the portforwading on the netgear router and i have entered in Minecraft 25565 25565 192.168.1.150
#2516 [20:52] <mib_9lakfb> i downloaded and pressed run but nothing happened
#2517 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> mr_evil: you are trying to use a private IP address. Give others your public address.
#2518 [20:53] <Thrae> anomalya: Also, there's one more payment option -- Skrill
#2519 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> mib_9lakfb: what web browser are you using?
#2520 [20:53] <mr_evil> what is that
#2521 [20:53] <mib_9lakfb> google chrome
#2522 [20:53] <mr_evil> o whatsmyip.com
#2523 [20:53] * Google chrome
#2523 [20:53] <mib_9lakfb> how do i download
#2524 [20:53] <almostroot> ;ip mr_evil
#2525 [20:53] <WugBot> IP address of mr_evil is: 50.81.173.232
#2526 [20:53] <mr_evil> iv tryed that and it says unable to connect then
#2527 [20:54] <mib_9lakfb> how do i download minecraft!?
#2528 [20:54] <anomalya> Thrae: what is that?
#2529 [20:54] <TheNytangel> Google
#2530 [20:54] <mr_evil> do i enter that in my server properties
#2531 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> mr_evil: go to www.moanmyip.com _from the computer on which you are running the server_
#2532 [20:54] <mib_9lakfb> how do i download minecraft!?
#2533 [20:54] <Thrae> anomalya: International online payment company like Moneybookers and Paypal
#2534 [20:54] <mib_9lakfb> how do i download minecraft!?
#2535 [20:54] <mib_9lakfb> how do i download minecraft!?
#2536 [20:54] <mib_9lakfb> how do i download minecraft!?
#2537 [20:54] <Chris> ?? win/client
#2538 [20:54] <VoxelHead> win/client: http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#2539 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_9lakfb dont/spam
#2540 [20:54] <VoxelHead> mib_9lakfb: (dont/spam) We can hear you just fine, and your text does not disappear automagically. Please do not spam the same thing over and over again.
#2541 [20:54] <TheNytangel> !client
#2542 [20:55] <Chris> someone already answered that too
#2543 [20:55] <anomalya> isn't the whole payment process through moneybookers?
#2544 [20:55] <mr_evil> AGGGG still wont work
#2545 [20:55] <mib_9lakfb> it doesnt work
#2546 [20:55] <anomalya> since those are the TOS you have to agree with, i assumed so.
#2547 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> mib_9lakfb: define 'doesn't work'.
#2548 [20:55] <mib_9lakfb> anybody??
#2549 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> also, you might want to replenish your apostrophe supply
#2550 [20:56] <mib_9lakfb> I run it any nothing comes up
#2551 [20:56] <Chris> mib_9lakfb, patience please, you aren't the top of the world here
#2552 [20:56] * floatereater [floatereater@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2553 [20:56] <mr_evil> i need help plz
#2554 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> ?? patience
#2555 [20:56] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#2556 [20:56] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#2557 [20:56] <Thrae> anomalya: Nope -- if you select Paypal it's through Paypal and Moneybookers does not get involved. Same with Skrill, it would be through Skrill. Moneybookers is only if you DON'T pick one of those.
#2558 [20:57] <mib_9lakfb> i used visa and moneybookers
#2559 [20:57] <anomalya> oh. k. So if i pick "visa" it's actually moneybookers.
#2560 [20:57] <mr_evil> AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG IM SO CONFUSED
#2561 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> mib_9lakfb: click on the wrench, and select Downloads.
#2562 [20:57] <mib_9lakfb> wait what wrench
#2563 [20:58] <Thrae> mr_evil: We will be able to help you here if you use the vanilla server, otherwise try /j #bukkit
#2564 [20:58] <Google> DopeGhoti: -_-
#2565 [20:58] <mr_evil> vanilla?
#2566 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> ??> mr_evil vanilla
#2567 [20:58] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (vanilla) vanilla (adj.): Bland; original; with no garnish. In the context of Minecraft, a server or client with no mods, skins, texture packs, or other customizations.
#2568 [20:59] <mr_evil> whats that
#2569 [20:59] * Justin88 [Justin88@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2570 [20:59] <Thrae> mr_evil: The one you can download directly from http://www.minecraft.net/download . Bukkit is a mod of that server software.
#2571 [20:59] <mr_evil> o
#2572 [20:59] <anomalya> so I guess I tried that and paypal (the no account option). which one is skrill? the only non-card options I see are "JCB", moneybookers, and paypal
#2573 [20:59] <mr_evil> bukkit is easyer tho
#2574 [20:59] <Justin88> ?? topic
#2575 [20:59] <Justin88> ?? index
#2576 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> Justin88: I think you mean '/topic'.
#2577 [20:59] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#2578 [20:59] <Thrae> anomalya: Oh wait....Skrill is another name for Moneybookers. Doh.
#2579 [21:00] <mr_evil> im just having truble with the portforwading on my netgear
#2580 [21:00] <anomalya> haha. nice.
#2581 [21:00] <Justin88> yea im just trying to find the command for all
#2582 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> you just did. (:
#2583 [21:00] <Guest28164> AuBot, where is the server file on a pc?
#2584 [21:00] <Thrae> Guest18996: Wherever you put it
#2585 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> Guest28164: it's wherever you decide to put it.
#2586 [21:00] * DopeGhoti takes Thrae's sai out of his back and hands it to him.
#2586 [21:01] <Guest28164> so i just drag my worlds folder in to the server icon, i put it on my desktops
#2587 [21:01] <Thrae> Guest18996: Wrong guest, sorry
#2588 [21:01] <Justin88> lol, this is a question a bit off but still minecraft maybe one of you have had experience with though
#2589 [21:01] <DopeGhoti> fire away.
#2590 [21:01] <Guest28164> please do
#2591 [21:02] <Justin88> I recently used MCPatcher to get this 512x texture pack working .. it works now but loads incredibly slow
#2592 [21:02] <Justin88> The bat file i was using didnt work so i found one that does
#2593 [21:02] <|Kiikun|> Justin88: probably because your loading an INSANE RESOLUTION texturepack?
#2594 [21:02] <anomalya> erm, so aside from getsatisfaction is there anyone else I can ask about payment stuff? I don't know whose end the problem is on. maybe write an email: "Dear Minecraft, Shut up and take my money!"?
#2595 [21:03] <Justin88> the new one is three lines can i post it ? and the old one is just one line of allocating memory but if i used it it would flash and go away
#2596 [21:03] <Justin88> No no it happened without that pack as well
#2597 [21:03] <|Kiikun|> ??> Justin88 pastebin
#2598 [21:03] <VoxelHead> Justin88: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2599 [21:03] <Justin88> i know pastebin lol ok brb
#2600 [21:03] * IIIZincIII [IIIZincIII@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2601 [21:04] <IIIZincIII> ok i need help on minecraft portforwading
#2602 [21:04] <IIIZincIII> any help?
#2603 [21:04] <|Kiikun|> zinc: checked out www.portforward.com yet?
#2604 [21:04] <Thrae> anomalya: Try contacting Moneybookers and Paypal with a copy of the error you get for each one, reference code with your card issuer's support, and whatever other detail you think would be good
#2605 [21:04] <Justin88> --->http://pastebin.com/GtXwqsWb
#2606 [21:04] <IIIZincIII> yes
#2607 [21:05] <IIIZincIII> my servre wont let people join
#2608 [21:05] <IIIZincIII> and idk y
#2609 [21:05] <anomalya> the errors are very vague. "Your purchase could not be processed."
#2610 [21:05] <Thrae> Justin88: Wait, are you trying to start a server or the client?
#2611 [21:05] * bernard [bernard@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2612 [21:05] <Justin88> so basically the old one wont run cause it says it cant identify the net.minecraft thing I think and i have to use that other one
#2613 [21:06] <Justin88> The standalone
#2614 [21:06] <IIIZincIII> plz help
#2615 [21:06] <|Kiikun|> IIIZincIII: is the server currently running?
#2616 [21:06] <Thrae> anomalya: Also, how long have you been getting these errors? And are you giving them ALL the information, even optional, they are requesting? And does it match exactly with the credit card?
#2617 [21:06] <IIIZincIII> no
#2618 [21:06] <|Kiikun|> IIIZincIII: and on the computer your on now?
#2619 [21:06] <IIIZincIII> no
#2620 [21:06] <Thrae> Justin88: So you're just trying to run the client? I thought I linked you to a batch file which can do that on Windows.
#2621 [21:06] <IIIZincIII> want me to run it tho?
#2622 [21:06] <anomalya> an hour and a half? yes and yes.
#2623 [21:06] <Justin88> Yea you did and it wont run which is what im trying to explain o.O
#2624 [21:07] <Thrae> anomalya: Before you contact them I'd try again over the weekend and again on Monday, then if it doesn't work tomorrow, email them.
#2625 [21:07] <|Kiikun|> IIIZincIII: before you run it.. make sure the server-ip is left blank in the server.properties
#2626 [21:07] <Justin88> In order to get it to run i had to use that other one which i dont understand what its doing besides making everything run slow
#2627 [21:07] <IIIZincIII> i have
#2628 [21:07] <anomalya> the first time I thought it rejected it because I used a + tag in my email address.
#2629 [21:07] <Thrae> Justin88: Do you have 64-bit Java installed in C:\Program Files\Java\jre6 ?
#2630 [21:08] <|Kiikun|> IIIZincIII: ok then run it and type !check in here
#2631 [21:08] <anomalya> hrm. okay. I was looking forward to playing this weekend. : (
#2632 [21:08] <Thrae> anomalya: Sometimes it'll reject it up for 24 hours after an unsuccessful attempt
#2633 [21:08] <IIIZincIII> k hold on
#2634 [21:08] <Justin88> hmm let me try to make it clearer as well, i run regular minecraft fine, this only happens with the modded file I have JDK7u2 b088
#2635 [21:08] <IIIZincIII> wait just check
#2636 [21:08] <IIIZincIII> or check in here
#2637 [21:08] <Justin88> b08 * my bad 64 bit
#2638 [21:08] <|Kiikun|> !ip IIIZincIII
#2639 [21:08] <anomalya> I just don't understand why it was unsuccessful, even though Visa authorized it.
#2640 [21:08] <Thrae> Justin88: You can install Java 6 and Java 7 side-by-side and I recommend you do so
#2641 [21:09] <|Kiikun|> ;ip IIIZincIII
#2642 [21:09] <WugBot> IP address of IIIZincIII is: 50.81.173.232
#2643 [21:09] <|Kiikun|> !check 50.81.173.232
#2644 [21:09] <IIIZincIII> ya iv tryed that one
#2645 [21:09] <IIIZincIII> it wont let people join still
#2646 [21:09] <anomalya> I suppose anything at this point is speculation, though.
#2647 [21:09] <Thrae> anomalya: It's very unlikely Mojang actually had a hand in rejecting it though, as they'd most likely have to do that manually, so it'd still be up to contacting the payment processing services
#2648 [21:09] <IIIZincIII> i use 192.168.1.150 is my ipv4 adress
#2649 [21:10] <anomalya> right. Okay. that's my next step, then.
#2650 [21:10] <Thrae> :j
#2651 [21:10] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#2652 [21:10] <Thrae> Justin88: Download and install that version of 64-bit Java and the batch file I linked to you will work ^^^^
#2653 [21:10] <|Kiikun|> IIIZincIII: the forwarding must be misconfigured. doublecheck your IPs and that its forwarding from 25565 to 25565
#2654 [21:10] <Thrae> Justin88: Once that's working we can modify the batch file to use whatever version of 64-bit Java you want
#2655 [21:11] <IIIZincIII> it is that
#2656 [21:11] <|Kiikun|> IIIZincIII: its also a possibility you have a firewall up thats blockign it
#2657 [21:11] <Justin88> you know what yea ill do that and come back but im guessing i found the reason
#2658 [21:11] <IIIZincIII> i have a netgear router
#2659 [21:11] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: What's the model of this router?
#2660 [21:11] <IIIZincIII> umm
#2661 [21:12] <IIIZincIII> wpn824v3
#2662 [21:12] * Arkunos [Arkunos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2663 [21:12] <Justin88> If i read the command prompt while it hangs and right after it says this "Warning found unknown Windows version : Windows 7. Attempting to use default windows plug-in. Loading net.java.games.input.DirectAndRawInputEnviromentPlugin"
#2664 [21:13] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WPN824v3/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2665 [21:13] <Justin88> Does that possibly mean it didnt find the java 7 jank =/
#2666 [21:13] <Thrae> Justin88: Yeah don't use that big line you put up on pastebin
#2667 [21:13] <Thrae> Justin88: Nah, that line is just loading things incorrectly. Or it could be Java 7 itself erroring, as we've found that sometimes happens.
#2668 [21:14] <Thrae> There's no problem running different versions of Java side-by-side so why not check
#2669 [21:14] <|Kiikun|> especially ince he just said he was using a beta version :P
#2670 [21:14] <Justin88> I am i was just wondering since that was the part it would hang at
#2671 [21:14] <Thrae> Justin88: If it can't find Java it would give a different message.
#2672 [21:15] <IIIZincIII> ya iv read that already
#2673 [21:15] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: Double-check
#2674 [21:15] <Arkunos> Hello there. Have you some time left for helping a sad german minecraft player? :)
#2675 [21:16] <Thrae> Arkunos: Depends on the origin of your sadness. We need specifics.
#2676 [21:16] <Chris> we may do
#2677 [21:16] <Arkunos> Ok, in simple word's it's crashing since 1.8
#2678 [21:16] <Justin88> Alright now that Ive got the other installed can u help out on that awfule batch file ?
#2679 [21:16] <Arkunos> right after loading the game
#2680 [21:17] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: Give us a screenshot of the page which lists your forwarded port, the one that's shown on the portforward.com link
#2681 [21:17] <Arkunos> the error log says: EXCEPTION_ILLEGAL_INSTRUCTION
#2682 [21:17] <Justin88> oh
#2683 [21:17] <Arkunos> Problematic frame: # C [nvoglv32.DLL+0x69c2e5]
#2684 [21:17] <Justin88> isnt that for old systems ?
#2685 [21:17] <Thrae> Arkunos: Paste the entire error to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#2686 [21:17] <Thrae> Arkunos: Most likely you just need to update your video card driver from www.nvidia.com.
#2687 [21:18] <IIIZincIII> what
#2688 [21:18] <Thrae> Justin88: Do you still have the batch file I linked to you?
#2689 [21:18] <IIIZincIII> o ok
#2690 [21:18] <Justin88> nap
#2691 [21:18] <IIIZincIII> how do i screan shot on a mac
#2692 [21:18] <Arkunos> And here are the steps I tried for fixing this: deletet .minecraft, reinstalled java, reinstalled nvidea driver
#2693 [21:19] <Justin88> command shift 3
#2694 [21:19] <IIIZincIII> k
#2695 [21:19] <Justin88> saves it to desktop on Mac
#2696 [21:19] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: http://take-a-screenshot.org/ , select "Mac", then put it up on something like http://imageshack.us/ and give us the link
#2697 [21:19] <Arkunos> http://pastebin.com/cFkC6hEM
#2698 [21:20] <Thrae> Arkunos: First off uninstall Java 7 and then install Java 6 from WugBot's link
#2699 [21:20] <Justin88> oh and nap mean nope
#2700 [21:20] <Thrae> :j
#2701 [21:20] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#2702 [21:20] <Thrae> Arkunos: If that doesn't work then update your nvidia card drivers from www.nvidia.com
#2703 [21:20] <IIIZincIII> what
#2704 [21:20] <anomalya> wow. calling moneybookers is worth it for the hold music.
#2705 [21:20] <anomalya> haha
#2706 [21:20] <IIIZincIII> do i go to past bin or what?
#2707 [21:20] <IIIZincIII> paste*
#2708 [21:21] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: To paste a screenshot you go to a site like http://imageshack.us/
#2709 [21:21] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: To POST a screenshot
#2710 [21:21] <Justin88> Thrae i dont have that batch file from before
#2711 [21:21] <Thrae> Justin88: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/MinecraftLaunch64bit.bat
#2712 [21:22] <Arkunos> The crashes started while I had this version of Java and I already deinstalled and reinstalled my graphic driver. But ok, I'll try to use Java 6 27 again :)
#2713 [21:22] <Justin88> 404'ed
#2714 [21:22] <Arkunos> I'll be back in some minutes ^^
#2715 [21:22] <Thrae> Justin88: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat
#2716 [21:22] <IIIZincIII> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-image
#2717 [21:22] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: We need the URL
#2718 [21:22] <IIIZincIII> k
#2719 [21:23] <IIIZincIII> [URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/picture1zm.png/][IMG=http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3792/picture1zm.png][/IMG][/URL] Uploaded with [URL=http://imageshack.us]ImageShack.us[/URL]
#2720 [21:23] <IIIZincIII> well
#2721 [21:24] <Justin88> Same thing as what i was saying ," Could not find the main class net.Minecraft.LauncherFrame "
#2722 [21:24] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: OK, that seems correct in your router configuration
#2723 [21:24] <Thrae> Justin88: Needs to be in the same location as Minecraft.exe
#2724 [21:24] <Justin88> but the horrendously long and slow one works fine
#2725 [21:24] <IIIZincIII> ya
#2726 [21:24] <Justin88> It is
#2727 [21:24] <IIIZincIII> and it wont let people join
#2728 [21:24] <Thrae> Justin88: Are you sure that's "Minecraft.exe" not "Minecraft (1).exe", etc.?
#2729 [21:24] <Justin88> ill check
#2730 [21:24] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: Check the Mac Firewall -- https://kb.iu.edu/data/aozg.html
#2731 [21:25] <IIIZincIII> i dont run the server off of a mac
#2732 [21:25] <IIIZincIII> toshiba
#2733 [21:25] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: OK, so you run it off a Toshiba Laptop?
#2734 [21:25] <IIIZincIII> yes
#2735 [21:25] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: Is 192.168.1.150 from your Mac or from the Toshiba's "ipconfig"?
#2736 [21:26] <IIIZincIII> toshiba
#2737 [21:26] <Arkunos> is it better to restart my PC after de-/reinstalling Java?
#2738 [21:26] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: OK, does your Toshiba run any Anti-Virus Suites -- McAfee, Norton/Symantec, AVG, etc.?
#2739 [21:26] <Thrae> Arkunos: Normally not necessary
#2740 [21:26] <IIIZincIII> umm avast
#2741 [21:26] <IIIZincIII> ever heard of it?
#2742 [21:27] * tylo [tylo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2743 [21:27] <TheNoodle> We have.
#2744 [21:27] <|Kiikun|> some of us even use it :P
#2745 [21:27] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: Is that the free version of Avast or the paid suite?
#2746 [21:27] <TheNoodle> bah, who uses av software any more.
#2747 [21:27] <IIIZincIII> free
#2748 [21:28] <|Kiikun|> TheNoodle: people on windows? :P
#2749 [21:28] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: What version of Windows on this Toshiba?
#2750 [21:28] <IIIZincIII> 7
#2751 [21:28] <tylo> minecraft is paid for but wont run
#2752 [21:28] <IIIZincIII> well
#2753 [21:28] <Thrae> I know some careful people who just do online scans every week or so
#2754 [21:28] <IIIZincIII> it ariginaly had vista but i upgraded
#2755 [21:28] <TheNoodle> Tylo, account name?
#2756 [21:28] <Arkunos> I'm a Windows user but the only AV I use is Brain AV ^^
#2757 [21:28] <TheNoodle> ^
#2758 [21:29] <tylo> tyloBennett
#2759 [21:29] <TheNoodle> !paid tylobennet
#2760 [21:29] <tylo> oops tyloBENNETT
#2761 [21:29] <TheNoodle> Caps don't matter
#2762 [21:29] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/542-windows-firewall-add-remove-exception.html <-- follow those instructions to add an exception for both java.exe and javaw.exe , also may come up as "Java(tm) Binary"
#2763 [21:29] <Justin88> Hmm, it loaded a little faster but I guess really it is cause of that 512x texture pack, i didn't realise it would hold up minecraft while its loading too before ingame though
#2764 [21:29] <TheNoodle> How long ago did you purchase the account?
#2765 [21:29] <tylo> 24hrs
#2766 [21:29] <TheNoodle> And what did you use to pay for it?
#2767 [21:30] * jkr [jkr@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2768 [21:30] <tylo> mojang
#2769 [21:30] <Thrae> Justin88: Well the batch file only goes up to 2GB, so you're free to change that to 6GB if you want.
#2770 [21:30] <TheNoodle> Tylo, an example of a payment method would be PayPal or MasterCard.
#2771 [21:30] <Thrae> Justin88: Just change the Xmx part of the java line
#2772 [21:30] <tylo> it logs us in and i have proof of payment
#2773 [21:30] <tylo> mastercard
#2774 [21:30] <IIIZincIII> ok thrae i will be back in a bit ok?
#2775 [21:31] <TheNoodle> Can you comfirm that a payment was made to Mojang AB
#2776 [21:31] <IIIZincIII> let me try
#2777 [21:31] <tylo> yes
#2778 [21:31] <Thrae> tylo: Did you confirm by CALLING the card issuer?
#2779 [21:31] <Arkunos> damn Java takes ages to deinstall ^_^
#2780 [21:31] <Thrae> tylo: Or does it show up on some type of credit card statement?
#2781 [21:32] <tylo> transaction id 511623810
#2782 [21:32] <Justin88> Can you replace xms with xmingc ?
#2783 [21:32] <Thrae> ?? accounts
#2784 [21:32] <VoxelHead> accounts: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#2785 [21:32] <Thrae> Justin88: No, those are different parameters altogether
#2786 [21:33] <Thrae> Justin88: Xmx -- maximum Java heap size, Xms -- minimum Java heap size
#2787 [21:33] <TheNoodle> Tylo, head to http://minecraft.net/support and follow the prompts.
#2788 [21:33] <TheNoodle> account -> premium -> my account is still regular
#2789 [21:33] <anomalya> if anyone is wondering about the payment account issues, I called moneybookers, and they said that they require you to register.
#2790 [21:33] * Somebody [Somebody@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2791 [21:33] <IIIZincIII> how do i add one thrae
#2792 [21:33] <Justin88> ahh someone had said that you could because xm incremental garbage collect detects the default xmx and sets it other than using xms
#2793 [21:33] <IIIZincIII> the add another is blocked out
#2794 [21:33] <anomalya> ^I'm checking to see if that works now...
#2795 [21:34] <Thrae> anomalya: They don't require you to register to use them, but they probably require you to register if you want to get support from them
#2796 [21:34] <IIIZincIII> hello?
#2797 [21:34] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: Re-read the instructions
#2798 [21:34] <IIIZincIII> k
#2799 [21:34] <anomalya> no. she said that the reason it was rejected was "internal security issues" which could be fixed by registering before trying to buy things
#2800 [21:35] * clarjon1 [clarjon1@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2801 [21:35] <Thrae> IIIZincIII: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Allow-a-program-to-communicate-through-Windows-Firewall <-- Microsoft's instructions
#2802 [21:36] <Thrae> anomalya: Yes, but I'm saying, people have success paying through Moneybookers without registering using credit cards, so it must be something about your card issuer. But thanks for the tip :)
#2803 [21:36] <anomalya> ah. yeah.
#2804 [21:37] * eddmech13 [eddmech13@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2805 [21:38] <eddmech13> any programs required to run minecraft other than java? (I had to format my hard drive, with everything on it (minecraft worked) and now it wont)
#2806 [21:39] <TheNoodle> You'll need java.
#2807 [21:39] <Chris> nope, updated video card drivers are a good idea
#2808 [21:39] <tylo> says i need an updated video card driver
#2809 [21:39] <Chris> then get one?
#2810 [21:39] <eddmech13> They should be up to date, i installed all the drivers for my system from dell
#2811 [21:40] <Chris> do a few hundred microsoft updates
#2812 [21:40] <TheNoodle> eddmech13, you need to install java, and download the latestest drivers from dell, not install them from a cd.
#2813 [21:40] <eddmech13> fyi, im good with computers (mostly) but I also like to fix things with swift blows from hammers
#2814 [21:40] * Arkunos [Arkunos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2815 [21:40] <Chris> ^
#2816 [21:40] <TheNoodle> ...You have a dell computer.
#2817 [21:40] <IIIZincIII> back i unblocked them both
#2818 [21:40] <TheNoodle> That is all.
#2819 [21:40] <IIIZincIII> and made them publick
#2820 [21:40] <eddmech13> yeah, thats what i did
#2821 [21:40] <TheNoodle> ;)
#2822 [21:41] <IIIZincIII> thrae
#2823 [21:41] <eddmech13> what you mean "a few hundred microsoft updates"?
#2824 [21:41] <IIIZincIII> hello?
#2825 [21:42] <eddmech13> hi
#2826 [21:42] <Chris> eddmech, update.microsoft.com
#2827 [21:42] <tylo> how do i get a video card driver?
#2828 [21:42] <Arkunos> Sooooo.... finally I have Java 6 27 on my PC but it still crashes right after loading the game
#2829 [21:42] <Arkunos> http://pastebin.com/hWX5544Q
#2830 [21:42] <Arkunos> ^ the new error log
#2831 [21:42] <IIIZincIII> thray are you there
#2832 [21:42] <eddmech13> thats my problem
#2833 [21:42] <IIIZincIII> thrae
#2834 [21:43] <IIIZincIII> dont quite
#2835 [21:43] <IIIZincIII> on me
#2836 [21:43] <eddmech13> I have, suposedly everything i need, but get the HS_ERR_PID notepad file and crash after loading
#2837 [21:44] <IIIZincIII> thrae are you there?
#2838 [21:44] <Arkunos> eddmech13: just like me :/
#2839 [21:44] <eddmech13> thats what i had said
#2840 [21:45] <eddmech13> that happens, kind of on my other laptop.
#2841 [21:45] <anomalya> Thrae: It didn't work even with an account. I'm just going to try again later. :<
#2842 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos - Same thing, nvidia video card drivers
#2843 [21:45] <IIIZincIII> THRAE ARE YOU THERE
#2844 [21:45] <Arkunos> oh there might be some minor communication problems because my english is kinda rusty :P
#2845 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos - Please update your nvidia video card's drivers from nvidia.com
#2846 [21:45] <IIIZincIII> :(
#2847 [21:45] <Arkunos> I deinstalled and reinstalled my video driver just an hour ago
#2848 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos - From where did you install your video drivers from?
#2849 [21:46] <IIIZincIII> hello thrae is yous there
#2850 [21:46] <eddmech13> twhat i believe happens on that is that it uses too much ram, then opens javaw.exe in commandprompt, then crashes and writes file
#2851 [21:46] <Arkunos> nvidea.com ofcourse
#2852 [21:46] * jasper [jasper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2853 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos - Could you do that again, this time, use nvidia's "Clean install" option found in the custom install option
#2854 [21:46] <Arkunos> I did
#2855 [21:46] <eddmech13> I have ATI
#2856 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos - The error report is clearly stating your nvidia video drivers are at fault
#2857 [21:47] <Arkunos> I know
#2858 [21:47] <IIIZincIII> well someone els help me?
#2859 [21:47] <Arkunos> it's the dll, right?
#2860 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> whats the prob?>
#2861 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos - Yes
#2862 [21:47] <Chris> what's your problem IIIZincIII
#2863 [21:47] <oldtopman> !server
#2864 [21:47] <oldtopman> er
#2865 [21:47] <IIIZincIII> ok look at the chat above and look at my prob
#2866 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos - If that doesn't work, try a complete wipe of your video card drivers using a program like driver sweeper
#2867 [21:47] <CrusaderDeleters> kk
#2868 [21:47] <tylo> how do i get a video card
#2869 [21:48] <Arkunos> the dll is openGL related, right?
#2870 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> tylo - You buy one
#2871 [21:48] <Chris> all I can see is THRAE ARE YOU THERE
#2872 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos - Yes
#2873 [21:48] <CrusaderDeleters> goes a long way, zinc.
#2874 [21:48] <Chris> tylo, google <3
#2875 [21:48] <oldtopman> IIIZincIII: There are plenty of guides on how to port forward and set up a server.
#2876 [21:48] <Arkunos> Is this helping me in any manner? ^^
#2877 [21:48] <CrusaderDeleters> oh, port forwarding
#2878 [21:48] <IIIZincIII> ik but we were almost done
#2879 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos - Hmm?
#2880 [21:48] <IIIZincIII> and no more
#2881 [21:49] <eddmech13> im confused, theres like 5 conversations going on at once
#2882 [21:49] <Arkunos> is there any... I dunno... OpenGL related stuff I could update?
#2883 [21:49] <oldtopman> ?? not/you
#2884 [21:49] <oldtopman> bah
#2885 [21:49] <IIIZincIII> any one help?
#2886 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos - No, it's packaged in with your video card drivers as well
#2887 [21:49] <eddmech13> who?
#2888 [21:49] <oldtopman> We'll highlight you if we're talking to any of you.
#2889 [21:49] <eddmech13> what?
#2890 [21:49] <IIIZincIII> person that helps me type in red
#2891 [21:49] <IIIZincIII> plz
#2892 [21:50] <Arkunos> GreyVulpine ok... then I'm really out of own ideas
#2893 [21:50] <eddmech13> this is my second time on a... whatever you call this thing
#2894 [21:50] <eddmech13> im not formilliar with this stuuuuuuf
#2895 [21:50] <Arkunos> it's my first time ever on an IRC Chat :P
#2896 [21:50] <oldtopman> IIIZincIII: Why don't you follow an online guide?
#2897 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos - Like my previous suggestion, try a program like driver sweeper to completely wipe your drivers, then reinstall directly from nvidia.com
#2898 [21:51] <Arkunos> Oh, I've overread that driversweeper thing
#2899 [21:51] <IIIZincIII> i have befor and it hasent worked so thats y im here
#2900 [21:51] <Arkunos> k ' will try that
#2901 [21:51] <oldtopman> IIIZincIII: Once you have a specific question, come back :-)
#2902 [21:51] <IIIZincIII> >:(
#2903 [21:51] <Arkunos> see ya when I'm done :)
#2904 [21:52] <Arkunos> later
#2905 [21:52] <eddmech13> Arkunos - what system you running? (OS, computer [custom/ dell, hp], et cetera)
#2906 [21:52] <IIIZincIII> well my speciific q is on the portforwading does this look right?
#2907 [21:52] <IIIZincIII> [URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/picture1zm.png/][IMG=http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3792/picture1zm.png][/IMG][/URL] Uploaded with [URL=http://imageshack.us]ImageShack.us[/URL]
#2908 [21:53] <IIIZincIII> hello?
#2909 [21:53] <eddmech13> gotta restart, but gotta finish downloading game-building software
#2910 [21:53] <Arkunos> eddmech13: Win7. AMD Athlon XP 2800+ 2,09GHz, 1,5GB RAM, NV 6600
#2911 [21:53] * poopl [poopl@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2912 [21:53] <eddmech13> sooooooo boring
#2913 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> IIIZincIII - Your internal IP address of the comptuer running the server is 1.150?
#2914 [21:53] <IIIZincIII> yes
#2915 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Then it looks right
#2916 [21:54] <eddmech13> akunos: not a standard computer?
#2917 [21:54] * Nihlus [Nihlus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2918 [21:54] <IIIZincIII> y cant people join then?
#2919 [21:54] <Nihlus> hello
#2920 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> IIIZincIII - Firewall? security software? What's your network setup like? Has it worked before?
#2921 [21:54] <IIIZincIII> no
#2922 [21:55] <IIIZincIII> it hasnt worked befor
#2923 [21:55] <IIIZincIII> this is the first time iv tryed
#2924 [21:55] <eddmech13> OS is good, processor seems ok, ram is a little lower than i like, but my current laptop is lower, and what is NV6600?
#2925 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> And the answer to the rest of my questions IIIZincIII?
#2926 [21:55] <Nihlus> i have a question, for the server address do i use my IP address, you know, for when im trying to add my server to another computer.
#2927 [21:56] <Arkunos> eddmech13: what do you mean by "standard"? I think it is
#2928 [21:56] <IIIZincIII> well the fire wall iv unlocked java.exe and javaw and for the security sofware not yet
#2929 [21:56] <Nihlus> GreyVulpine please look at my question
#2930 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Nihlus - For the server address of what?
#2931 [21:56] <IIIZincIII> and i dnot know what the network setup is
#2932 [21:56] <IIIZincIII> srry
#2933 [21:57] <Nihlus> my new server
#2934 [21:57] <eddmech13> like my POS laptop, a compaq presario v6000z (motherboard is burned - stupid nVidia)
#2935 [21:57] <Nihlus> GreyVulpine the address for my new server
#2936 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> IIIZincIII - Describe for me, if you know, how you're getting the internet to your computer.
#2937 [21:57] <IIIZincIII> wirles
#2938 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Nihlus - I still don't understand the question
#2939 [21:57] <IIIZincIII> netgear wpn824v3
#2940 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> IIIZincIII - Wireless from your netgear router?
#2941 [21:58] <IIIZincIII> yes
#2942 [21:58] <Arkunos> eddmech13: no, than it's standard and NV 6600 = NVIDIA GeForce 6600... I thought that would be obvious ^^
#2943 [21:58] <GreyVulpine> IIIZincIII - Do you have a modem? What kind of modem is it?
#2944 [21:58] <IIIZincIII> modem is motorola
#2945 [21:58] <IIIZincIII> sb5100
#2946 [21:58] <IIIZincIII> mediacom
#2947 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> IIIZincIII - Do you happen to have teamviewer? It's a remote desktop program which will allow people to connect to your computer and look around
#2948 [21:59] <eddmech13> well, like i said, im good on the computer, but not good with computers (tried to fix my dell dimension desktop with a ballpene hammer)
#2949 [21:59] <Nihlus> GreyVulpine , the server is on my personal computer, do i use the IP address of my computer as the address for the server, when it asks when i want to use another computer
#2950 [21:59] <IIIZincIII> i have teamviwer on my laptop
#2951 [21:59] * Ninemmtylenol [Ninemmtylenol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2952 [21:59] <IIIZincIII> but it dosnt work
#2953 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> IIIZincIII - Could you get teamviewer on the computer running the server
#2954 [21:59] <eddmech13> but... ok, 6600 sounds like it should be ok
#2955 [22:00] <Arkunos> Minecraft was running just fine for years. I'm playing it since Creativa Mode. The crasehs first started with 1.8
#2956 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> Nihlus - All depends on how you're connecting to the server. If the computer running the server is on a LAN, you can use the LAN address of the computer on any other computer that's on the same LAN. If you're connecting to it from outside the LAN, you can use the public ip address
#2957 [22:00] <Nihlus> thnx so much
#2958 [22:00] <Arkunos> so I hope I don't think that my computer itself is the Problem
#2959 [22:01] * Minecraftmom [Minecraftmom@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2960 [22:01] <Arkunos> btw: installing driver sweeper now
#2961 [22:01] * Thrae comes back from AFK
#2961 [22:02] <IIIZincIII> thrae is here yay
#2962 [22:02] <eddmech13> funny trick to play on server: log in (illegal account) on someone elses log in, and yourself (either legit or not legit) and play as both, and do stuff on both logins at the same-ish time
#2963 [22:02] <IIIZincIII> ok umm greyvulpine
#2964 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#2965 [22:02] <IIIZincIII> im doing teamvewer
#2966 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> PM me the teamviewer info
#2967 [22:02] <eddmech13> i fooled like 6 people, who know this persons behavior better than me
#2968 [22:02] <Thrae> IIIZincIII is using a Toshiba Laptop to host the Minecraft Server if he didn't mention
#2969 [22:02] <eddmech13> i was funny
#2970 [22:03] <Minecraftmom> I have a quick question: my son just purchased minecraft but I also have 2 other kids who were playing Minecraft Beta before this purchase. Now, the other 2 want to play as well but it won't let them log in unless they purchase the game as well. Does that mean I have to purchase Minecraft 2 more times?
#2971 [22:03] <eddmech13> it was funny, sorry
#2972 [22:03] <Thrae> eddmech13: We don't talk about illegal stuff here, period
#2973 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Thrae - Over wireless, no doubt
#2974 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Minecraftmom - Yes
#2975 [22:03] <Minecraftmom> I thought they would be able to have several usernames under one account.
#2976 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Minecraftmom - No
#2977 [22:03] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Yeah I'm guessing that's why it's .150, typical of Wireless/Wired routers
#2978 [22:03] <Thrae> If that's the real IP
#2979 [22:04] <IIIZincIII> ok teamveiwer?
#2980 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> IIIZincIII - Yes
#2981 [22:04] <eddmech13> ok, you ask someone for their password and username, and switch rolls, or have one play as both, its funny
#2982 [22:04] <Minecraftmom> Wow, I really have to fork out more money for them to play the same game under one household? Ot
#2983 [22:04] <IIIZincIII> can you whisper?
#2984 [22:04] <IIIZincIII> some how
#2985 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> If they want to play multiplayer together, yes, you'll need to pay for each account
#2986 [22:04] <eddmech13> do they have the cracked version of minecraft?
#2987 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> IIIZincIII - /msg greyvulpine stuff-goes-here
#2988 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> eddmech13 - Please do not support piracy here
#2989 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> We will kick you
#2990 [22:05] <Thrae> Minecraftmom: If it's online, yes. You can expect this from most any game you play online. It's because Minecraft provides an authentication service hosted by them.
#2991 [22:05] <eddmech13> im not supporting it, iam asking if they do.
#2992 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Don't even mention it
#2993 [22:05] <eddmech13> ok.... did they have it before it was purchased?
#2994 [22:06] <Minecraftmom> It's like buying 3 or the same videogames!
#2995 [22:06] <Arkunos> I'm deinstalling my video driver now, than using driver sweeper, than reinstalling the driver
#2996 [22:06] <Arkunos> later
#2997 [22:06] <eddmech13> if they had it before, they should have it now
#2998 [22:06] <eddmech13> as long as the login names are different
#2999 [22:06] <IIIZincIII> ok?
#3000 [22:07] <Minecraftmom> Yes, they were all playing under one account in the Minecraft Beta version but were able to use 3 different worlds. I guess that makes sense then but I expected more of this paid Minecraft version.
#3001 [22:07] <eddmech13> ive personally played as two different people at the same time, two minecrafts open, logged in as two different people
#3002 [22:07] <Thrae> Minecraftmom: I think you mean Minecraft Classic? Minecraft Beta is the paid product.
#3003 [22:08] <eddmech13> the worlds will change, but if they are playing on someones server, it wont matter
#3004 [22:08] <Minecraftmom> I'm not sure which one they downloaded. Might be a pirated version. =(
#3005 [22:08] <Thrae> Minecraftmom: You need to pay for Minecraft to be able to play it offline (outside of a browser) unless you use a pirated version.
#3006 [22:09] <Minecraftmom> My daughter is upset now because she wants to play under her own name. I guess I have to purchase it for her too!
#3007 [22:09] <eddmech13> other way around, pay for it to play on line, not offline
#3008 [22:10] <eddmech13> minecraftmom: if they already had the non-proper beta, then they can just type in a new name, and play on a server
#3009 [22:10] <almostroot> Thrae: Don't suggest pirating to people. Ever.
#3010 [22:10] <Minecraftmom> Okay, thanks everyone for the info. Daughter is acting up because she didn't get her own Minecraft. See what I can do!
#3011 [22:10] <eddmech13> and you can go into... i dont remember whch folder, but under C:\users, somewhere you can find
#3012 [22:11] <Minecraftmom> My son already deleted that version, so it's gone now.
#3013 [22:11] <eddmech13> the save files, and put them in another place
#3014 [22:11] * ferminter [ferminter@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3015 [22:11] <Minecraftmom> Ciao folks
#3016 [22:11] <eddmech13> ooh, then... unless you do bad things, you need a fat wallet
#3017 [22:11] * Minecraftmom [Minecraftmom@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#3018 [22:11] <Thrae> Minecraftmom: Only three types of online mass multiplayer games exist -- those you need to pay money for per month, those you need to pay a one-time fee, and those that are free altogether (F2P). Minecraft is a small indie company that requires a one-time fee.
#3019 [22:11] * Ninemmtylenol [Ninemmtylenol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3020 [22:11] <ferminter> I have a ?
#3021 [22:11] <eddmech13> ok, gotta restart
#3022 [22:12] <eddmech13> bye
#3023 [22:12] * Raistlinnn [Raistlinnn@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3024 [22:12] <ferminter> I'm having trouble installing the game, the link at minecraft.net just gives me an .exe file that when I open doesn't let play, I've updated Java, any help?
#3025 [22:14] <Chris> check your video card drivers are up to date
#3026 [22:15] <Thrae> ferminter: Are you using Windows?
#3027 [22:16] <ferminter> yes
#3028 [22:16] <IIIZincIII> THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#3029 [22:16] <ferminter> windows 7
#3030 [22:16] <Thrae> ferminter: Try downloading it using Firefox if you're using Internet Explorer.
#3031 [22:17] <ferminter> I am, its something going wrong in the download process,
#3032 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> oi
#3033 [22:17] <Scott> IE says FF is dangerous I think.
#3034 [22:17] <ferminter> I just get kicked, when I travel more that 100 ft in the game
#3035 [22:19] * mib_3kt1wy [mib_3kt1wy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3036 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> is that in a server, or in single player?
#3037 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> FF is not dangerous
#3038 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> in fact, It's better than IE
#3039 [22:19] <ferminter> in a server
#3040 [22:20] <CrusaderDeleters> hrm. what does it say?
#3041 [22:20] <ferminter> it says Im running in a windowed or web version, I need to download the game, but all I can download is a .exe file that just gets me kicked
#3042 [22:20] <ferminter> mebbe its a compatability issue
#3043 [22:21] <ferminter> i updated java, is there anything else I should update?
#3044 [22:22] <almostroot> ferminter: Does it produce an actual error? Dow it happen when playing simple player? Does it happen when playing on other multiplayer servers?
#3045 [22:22] * mib_j97ufo [mib_j97ufo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3046 [22:22] <CrusaderDeleters> almost:
#3047 [22:22] <almostroot> Dow==does
#3048 [22:22] <CrusaderDeleters> <22:19:49> <ferminter> in a server
#3049 [22:22] <almostroot> simple==single
#3050 [22:23] <almostroot> CrusaderDeleters: Notice none of my questions would illicit information already stated.
#3051 [22:23] <ferminter> it runs out of memory, and I havn't tried it on other servers, i don't think its a server issue because the ppl I play with (just started playing) have been here a while
#3052 [22:24] * Justin88 [Justin88@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3053 [22:24] <CrusaderDeleters> almostroot It was already asked XP
#3054 [22:24] <Justin88> kjgbk
#3055 [22:24] <CrusaderDeleters> ferminster, theres no real way to fix this. I get it all the time too :L
#3056 [22:25] <Justin88> Heyyyyy okay i finally set up my stand alone with the 512x textures , how do i do this on a server i create ?
#3057 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> texture packs are client side only
#3058 [22:25] <Justin88> o.o that's .... mega .. hmph
#3059 [22:25] <ferminter> ok thanks
#3060 [22:25] * FrostPixie [FrostPixie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3061 [22:26] <TheNoodle> someone revoice me when I get back >.> I hate disconnecting from irc.
#3062 [22:26] <FrostPixie> Hello?
#3063 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#3064 [22:26] <almostroot> CrusaderDeleters: There are, in fact, ways of limiting the amount of memory Minecraft uses.
#3065 [22:26] <Justin88> I wonder , so if you had someone else download those texture packs ... and you set up your texture pack in place of the default one and they did the same could it work ?
#3066 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Justin88 - If they downloaded the same texture pack, then yes.
#3067 [22:27] <FrostPixie> Anyone here know about how to change a minecraft account name?
#3068 [22:27] <Justin88> That'd be a cool idea for a custom server then
#3069 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> FrostPixie - Not possible at this tiem
#3070 [22:27] <FrostPixie> Really?
#3071 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> time*
#3072 [22:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah. But notch has to code them to be more efficient. I don't kno why, but he just screwed up the mem usage :s
#3073 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> FrostPixie - Yes
#3074 [22:27] <CrusaderDeleters> and the graphics too
#3075 [22:27] <FrostPixie> :( I don't want to pay again to get a new name
#3076 [22:27] <FrostPixie> OH well XD
#3077 [22:27] <FrostPixie> Just being picky :P
#3078 [22:28] <Justin88> I've only found one mod that allows multi core suppor but couldnt get it to work .. suxx.....
#3079 [22:28] <FrostPixie> Well thx people! Hope your info is correct
#3080 [22:29] * krebbit [krebbit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3081 [22:30] <krebbit> i get an error message when i try to play
#3082 [22:31] <almostroot> krebbit: Please put the entire error message on pastebin.com and share the link.
#3083 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Please post it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#3084 [22:31] <almostroot> ??> krebbit pastebin
#3085 [22:31] <VoxelHead> krebbit: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#3086 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Or not
#3087 [22:32] <almostroot> GreyVulpine: Maybe we tried to be /too/ helpful?
#3088 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#3089 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> We didn't have an answer for then in the 24 nanoseconds it took for them to think nobody's around to respond to them
#3090 [22:33] <almostroot> They just live in a facster world than we do.
#3091 [22:33] <Justin88> that same guy has come in about twice before
#3092 [22:33] <almostroot> Justin88: Very common name.
#3093 [22:33] <Justin88> really o.O is it anime or something
#3094 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> It's one of the mibbit default names
#3095 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> One of the reasons we hate mibbit
#3096 [22:33] <Justin88> oh been away from irc like ten years =/
#3097 [22:34] * Arkunos [Arkunos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3098 [22:34] <Arkunos> Hi there, it's me again
#3099 [22:34] <Justin88> with mods that support dual cores i wonder when it'll be implemented into the real minecraft =/
#3100 [22:35] <Arkunos> I've deinstalled my graphics driver, used driver sweeper, reinstalled the driver but still the same problem :(
#3101 [22:35] <Arkunos> http://pastebin.com/XRH4Ev2M
#3102 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos - Please give us a dxdiag
#3103 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> ??> Arkunos win/dxdiag
#3104 [22:37] <VoxelHead> Arkunos: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3105 [22:37] <VoxelHead> Arkunos: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3106 [22:37] <mib_j97ufo> anyone know if there is a problem buying minecraft if thier merchant is down or something?
#3107 [22:37] * IIIZincIII [IIIZincIII@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3108 [22:38] <Arkunos> VoxelHead: just saying pls run dxdiag and save the log would've been enough, but ok thx ^^
#3109 [22:38] <IIIZincIII> hey can some one help me?
#3110 [22:38] <CrusaderDeleters> ?
#3111 [22:38] <IIIZincIII> can you try to join my server?
#3112 [22:38] <CrusaderDeleters> sure
#3113 [22:39] <IIIZincIII> 50.81.173.232:25565
#3114 [22:39] <Chris> !check 50.81.173.232
#3115 [22:39] <Arkunos> VoxelHead: here's my dxdiag http://pastebin.com/pQNcVeVW
#3116 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> it works.
#3117 [22:40] <IIIZincIII> k cool
#3118 [22:40] <IIIZincIII> but when i try to put it on serverlist1 it wont let me
#3119 [22:40] <Arkunos> btw: I've reinstalled Java 6 27 just an hour ago
#3120 [22:41] <Justin88> il ltry it
#3121 [22:41] <Arkunos> and my . minecraft is clean
#3122 [22:43] <Justin88> Zinc ---> says cant resolve hostname
#3123 [22:44] <Arkunos> VoxelHead: still there? ^^
#3124 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Arkunos- When you reinstalled your video drivers, did you use: http://www.nvidia.de/object/win7-winvista-32bit-280.26-whql-driver-de.html
#3125 [22:46] <Arkunos> no I've used 285.38 but still from nvidea.de
#3126 [22:46] <Arkunos> it's the latest
#3127 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Those look to be the latest available for the geforce 6600
#3128 [22:47] <Arkunos> the nvidea updater recommended the 285.38 for me end sended me to the downloadpage
#3129 [22:48] * Ninemmtylenol [Ninemmtylenol@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3130 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> justin88, it works :o
#3131 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you try those instead?
#3132 [22:48] <Arkunos> ok
#3133 [22:48] <Arkunos> I'll do nearly everything to get minecraft up and running again ^^
#3134 [22:49] <Arkunos> should I use driver sweeper again after deinstalling?
#3135 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Just use the Clean Install optoin
#3136 [22:50] <Arkunos> k
#3137 [22:50] <Arkunos> starting install now
#3138 [22:51] <Justin88> CrusaderDeleters, you played on his server ?
#3139 [22:51] <CrusaderDeleters> i am playing on his server
#3140 [22:51] <CrusaderDeleters> 50.81.173.232:25565
#3141 [22:51] <Justin88> tells me unknown host
#3142 [22:51] <Arkunos> But I have to tell you that I've used that version before and mincraft was also not running
#3143 [22:52] <CrusaderDeleters> you prolly entered wrong ip
#3144 [22:52] <Justin88> Lol not possible
#3145 [22:53] * Vin_ [Vin_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3146 [22:55] <Arkunos> restarting PC
#3147 [23:01] * Arkunos [Arkunos@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3148 [23:02] <Arkunos> HELL YEAH! It's working again. Big thanks to everyone who's helping me =D
#3149 [23:02] <almostroot> Arkunos: Happy crafting.
#3150 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> \o/
#3151 [23:03] <almostroot> I think I need to see a picture of you actually doing that...
#3152 [23:04] <Scott> !check 50.81.173.232:25565
#3153 [23:05] * Oerg866_ [Oerg866_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3154 [23:05] <Arkunos> I hope it'll be. I wasn't really playing Minecraft for months. But after I'd seen the 1.8 Trailer I wanted to see all the new stuff for myself. And now after severel weeks of trying to fix it by myself and not gaining any sucess I finally can enjoy all the greatness I think 1.8 will have. Big Thanks again =D
#3155 [23:06] <Vin_> try 1.9 pre 3 it has baby animals lol
#3156 [23:06] * Blacker_47 [Blacker_47@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3157 [23:06] <Arkunos> I think I will
#3158 [23:07] <Arkunos> a frind of mine who is running his own serves is running it all ready I think
#3159 [23:07] <Vin_> aye
#3160 [23:07] <Arkunos> I think it's even 1.9_4
#3161 [23:08] * woder [woder@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3162 [23:08] <Vin_> neat, was 3 last i checked
#3163 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> what
#3164 [23:08] <Arkunos> But I'll have to check this out later 'cause it's 5'o clock in the morning in here ^^
#3165 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> theres a third prerelease?
#3166 [23:08] <Vin_> a fourth
#3167 [23:09] <IIIZincIII> GREYCULPINE
#3168 [23:09] <IIIZincIII> GREYVULPINE
#3169 [23:09] <IIIZincIII> HEY
#3170 [23:10] <Arkunos> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre4/minecraft.jar
#3171 [23:10] <Arkunos> ^ there you go
#3172 [23:10] <IIIZincIII> GREYVULPINE
#3173 [23:10] <IIIZincIII> TALK
#3174 [23:10] <Arkunos> Do I hear a please? :3
#3175 [23:10] <Vin_> lol lready got it
#3176 [23:10] <Kealper> IIIZincIII: chill out, this is a volunteer-run community
#3177 [23:11] <almostroot> ??> IIIZincIII dont/shout
#3178 [23:11] <VoxelHead> IIIZincIII: (dont/shout) There is no need to yell. The acoustics in here are wonderful.
#3179 [23:11] <Vin_> just after you said theres a 4
#3180 [23:11] <IIIZincIII> i was just going to say thank you gosh
#3181 [23:11] <Arkunos> Vin_: have fun ^^
#3182 [23:11] <IIIZincIII> he helped me get my server running
#3183 [23:11] <Vin_> aye
#3184 [23:11] * LuckySMack [LuckySMack@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3185 [23:11] <IIIZincIII> ok?
#3186 [23:12] <Arkunos> k, I'm out of here. Thanks again for the big help for the third time. I just can't stop to thank ^^ Bye and keep up the great support :)
#3187 [23:18] * liquidengineer [liquidengineer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3188 [23:20] * ATY [ATY@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3189 [23:20] * nilesr|iPod [nilesr|iPod@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3190 [23:21] <ATY> Uh, hello? Is anyone here a little tech savvy and up to help me? (never been here before)
#3191 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> That's what we're here for
#3192 [23:22] <ATY> Ok awesome, cause I'm really at my wits end and just cannot figure out what to do.
#3193 [23:22] * woder [woder@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3194 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Could you describe the problem?
#3195 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> lol, please. :)
#3196 [23:23] <Vin_> lol
#3197 [23:23] <ATY> I have a purchased copy of Minecraft and have been enjoying it for quite some time (since it was still in the Alpha stage). I recently bought a new computer and for some reason it won't work.
#3198 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> is it a lappy?
#3199 [23:23] <ATY> It's a desktop
#3200 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> What is it doing? Do you get any error reports?
#3201 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> whats the graphics card?
#3202 [23:24] <ATY> Ok, I'll start with my computer specs (no error messages)
#3203 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> ATY - How do you know it's not working, what exactly is it doing? How are you trying to launch it?
#3204 [23:24] <Vin_> does windows error reporting fire up, does it say this application was closed from data execution prevention?
#3205 [23:25] <ATY> Windows 7 Home Prem. 6GB RAM ATI Radeon HD 4200 integrated card and a quad core processor
#3206 [23:25] <Vin_> nice
#3207 [23:25] <ATY> Login gives me the "Can't connect" message, then when I select "Play offline" I just get a black screen
#3208 [23:25] <CrusaderDeleters> hrm
#3209 [23:26] <CrusaderDeleters> so then there is nothing wrong with your graphics card
#3210 [23:26] <Vin_> hmm atleast main client runs
#3211 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> ATY - Has it ever worked before?
#3212 [23:26] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#3213 [23:26] <ATY> I can't play in browser, either. It'll say "Updating" then it freezes as soon as it finishes.
#3214 [23:26] <Vin_> sounds like corrupted game files to me, or conflicting plugins
#3215 [23:26] <ATY> Not on this computer
#3216 [23:26] <Planck> ATY: What version of Java on that computer?
#3217 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> ATY - Windows, I take it?
#3218 [23:26] <Vin_> but i'm a tard
#3219 [23:26] <ATY> I've done a complete clean sweep
#3220 [23:26] <ATY> Erased everything java and minecraft, then downloaded the most recent versions
#3221 [23:27] <ATY> I've updated drivers
#3222 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> ATY - First question, does your windows username happen to contain an exclaimation mark (!) in it?
#3223 [23:27] <clarjon1> ATY: you removed %appdata%/.minecraft?
#3224 [23:27] <ATY> No
#3225 [23:27] <ATY> Oh, I did remove appdate .minecraft
#3226 [23:27] <ATY> No, my username doesn't contain an exclamation mark
#3227 [23:27] <CrusaderDeleters> it should still work with that
#3228 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> ATY - Your system's time and date correct?
#3229 [23:28] <ATY> I've done everything that I could find on the internet and think of
#3230 [23:28] <ATY> Yes they are
#3231 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> ATY - Could you please try to launch minecraft through the in-browser client at minecraft.net, when the applet starts to load, please go to the white coffee cup icon in your system try by your time
#3232 [23:28] <Vin_> are you using any plugins btw?
#3233 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> There, you can pull up the java console. Please copy the contents of it when minecraft stops loading, to pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#3234 [23:29] <ATY> No plugins, and I'll try that
#3235 [23:29] * slimer [slimer@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3236 [23:29] <ATY> I'll be right back with that url
#3237 [23:30] <slimer> why when i try to update my minecraft, it says "fatal error occurred (4): null"?
#3238 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> slimer - What operating system are you on?
#3239 [23:30] <slimer> windows
#3240 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> ??> slimer win/reinst
#3241 [23:31] <VoxelHead> slimer: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3242 [23:31] <VoxelHead> slimer: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3243 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#3244 [23:32] <ATY> OK, here's the link: http://pastebin.com/AidwwaUV
#3245 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> C:\Users\Deine Mütter!
#3246 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Your username has a ! mark in it
#3247 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#3248 [23:33] <ATY> oh wow. it does. I completely forgot about that.
#3249 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> You have two choices, either make a new windows user account, or you can use our workaround
#3250 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> ??> ATY !
#3251 [23:33] <VoxelHead> ATY: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#3252 [23:33] <VoxelHead> ATY: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
#3253 [23:33] <ATY> Alright. Thank you.
#3254 [23:34] * Dimedo [Dimedo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3255 [23:34] <Vin_> damn GreyVulpine's good
#3256 [23:35] <slimer> tryed doing that, nothing happened :(
#3257 [23:35] <Vin_> everytime i try to find out someones problem i hear the blip of your answer
#3258 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Vin_ - Been doing this for way too long.
#3259 [23:36] <slimer> what should i try now?
#3260 [23:36] <GreyVulpine> slimer - The reinstall didn't work? You removed everything in .minecraft except for saves?
#3261 [23:37] <slimer> yah, i can try one more time
#3262 [23:39] <slimer> still nothing
#3263 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Has it worked before? Is this on the in-browser or downloaded beta client?
#3264 [23:40] <slimer> this downloaded beta and its never worked before, i just downloaded roughly 24 hours ago.
#3265 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Could you try to log into the website?
#3266 [23:42] <ATY> I cannot seem to get your link to work.
#3267 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> There's a few individuals that had registered a little while ago, usernames that contained a space in it that could cause this to throw that error
#3268 [23:42] <slimer> i can log into the website, minecraft.net, and i just tryed to play online and i got the same problem.
#3269 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> ATY - Oh, one sec.
#3270 [23:43] * GreyVulpine stabs wug
#3270 [23:43] <Wug> ?
#3271 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> ! fix isn't there
#3272 [23:43] <Wug> :!
#3273 [23:43] <WugBot> !: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#3274 [23:43] <WugBot> !: Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work (though it usually does) and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
#3275 [23:43] <Wug> http://wugserv.student.rit.edu/minecraft/fix/Install.exe
#3276 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> That link is bored as well
#3277 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> er, borked
#3278 [23:44] <Wug> that one works
#3279 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#3280 [23:44] * GreyVulpine pokes ATY with http://wugserv.student.rit.edu/minecraft/fix/Install.exe
#3280 [23:45] <ATY> Danke!
#3281 [23:45] <slimer> so? what should i do?
#3282 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Are you able to log into minecraft.net, at the website?
#3283 [23:45] <slimer> yes
#3284 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Your minecraft username doesn't contain any spaces in it?
#3285 [23:46] <slimer> no
#3286 [23:46] <clarjon1> slimer: what is your username
#3287 [23:46] <slimer> 268tycoon
#3288 [23:46] <clarjon1> !check 268tycoon
#3289 [23:46] <clarjon1> hm
#3290 [23:47] <clarjon1> not the right command
#3291 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> it's !paid
#3292 [23:47] <slimer> huh??
#3293 [23:47] <clarjon1> oh
#3294 [23:47] <clarjon1> !paid 268tycoon
#3295 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Could you attempt to launch the minecraft.net inbrowser client. When the applet stops at the error, look for a white coffee cup icon near your system clock. You'll then go to it, and open up the java console
#3296 [23:48] <slimer> ok, one sec
#3297 [23:48] <GreyVulpine> Please copy all the text inside, and paste it at www.pastebin.com, then give us the URL to it so that we may read it
#3298 [23:49] <ATY> I love you guys so much! Thank you for the help and the workaround is working! You guys are the best.
#3299 [23:50] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#3299 [23:51] <ATY> As amazing as you guys are, I hope I don't need to see you again. Thank you for everything. Good night.
#3300 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> G'night
#3301 [23:52] <slimer> uhhh, it wont let me do anything
#3302 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Hmm?
#3303 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> slimer - Is the applet loading? Do you see an error there? Are you able to go to the java console?
#3304 [23:53] <slimer> i opened up the inbrowser client, clicked on the white coffee cup thing, and it wouldnt let me copy anything.
#3305 [23:53] <slimer> yes, idk, and yes
#3306 [23:54] <clarjon1> ok
#3307 [23:54] <clarjon1> hm
#3308 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> You got the console open then? Are you able to select anything there?
#3309 [23:55] <clarjon1> Personally, i'd try using the .jar launcher, and running that from a windows cmd.exe window so you can copy the output from there...
#3310 [23:55] <slimer> just the java.com link
#3311 [23:58] <slimer> fml
#3312 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> You don't see an "Open Console" option under the java.com link?
#3313 [23:58] * genshou [genshou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3314 [23:58] <slimer> no
#3315 [23:59] * EricReitz [EricReitz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3316 [23:59] <CosmicVoyager> Hello. I sthere a way to save your creations locally from a server?
#3317 [23:59] <slimer> im in the java control panel
#3318 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Strange, alright. Could you please try following these instructions to launch minecraft with a batch file
#3319 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2