#1 [00:00] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE
#2 [00:00] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> hm
#3 [00:00] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> i cant self ping
#4 [00:00] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> !ping
#5 [00:00] <GreyBot> emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE Your Ping time was 0.281 seconds.
#6 [00:00] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> aha
#7 [00:00] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> :ping
#8 [00:00] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> :ping
#9 [00:00] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> hm
#10 [00:00] <LemonSkin> So, anyone know fixes to any of my problems?
#11 [00:00] <lemon-rev> please stop spamming the channel
#12 [00:00] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> ?>> ping
#13 [00:00] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> ??> ping
#14 [00:00] <lemon-rev> lemonskin are you still talking about server ?
#15 [00:01] <almostroot> emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE: Stop spamming the channel.
#16 [00:01] <lemon-rev> eman please stop
#17 [00:01] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> sorry
#18 [00:01] <LemonSkin> Nah, lemon-rev
#19 [00:01] <LemonSkin> I got it all sorted
#20 [00:01] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> good night for real now eveybody
#21 [00:01] <lemon-rev> k
#22 [00:01] <LemonSkin> Just having ordinary client issues now
#23 [00:01] <lemon-rev> lemonskin so whats the trouble
#24 [00:02] <lemon-rev> oh like what not people able to connect
#25 [00:02] <LemonSkin> Well, I'm not sure either errors have fixes at the moment
#26 [00:02] <LemonSkin> Nah, people can connect
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#28 [00:02] <LemonSkin> These are just errors that I've played through, but are getting really annoying now
#29 [00:02] <LemonSkin> The first is 'out of memory' error
#30 [00:02] <lemon-rev> lemonskin are you running mods ?
#31 [00:02] <LemonSkin> I play for a bit and then everything saves and the 'out of memory' thingo pops up
#32 [00:02] <joe> i am geting that to lemonskin
#33 [00:03] <LemonSkin> Yes, but it was doing it in Vanilla
#34 [00:03] <LemonSkin> And I just increased the amount of RAM the game runs on
#35 [00:03] <LemonSkin> Almost straight away, I got the memory error
#36 [00:03] <LemonSkin> So, I have a feeling it's just Notch's bad coding
#37 [00:03] <lemon-rev> lemonskin i think mods will give you that because of the mods or becuase of say texutrepacks, i havent seen the dxdiag you might have given, but if you have enough ram to run the game with a server then hm, not sure
#38 [00:03] <joe> what is suggested for amount of ram miecraft runs on
#39 [00:03] <Chris> 2g I believe
#40 [00:04] <lemon-rev> ??> joe requirements
#41 [00:04] <VoxelHead> joe: (requirements) Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in beta!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#42 [00:04] <[AJ]> 2g no tp/mods
#43 [00:04] <joe> i have 3gb and im getting the out of memory error
#44 [00:05] <LemonSkin> Yeah, I've got 4gb and I get the out of memory
#45 [00:05] <LemonSkin> Even with no mods
#46 [00:05] <joe> vanilla
#47 [00:05] <LemonSkin> And my laptop lags to hell when I play it and it doesn't get the error
#48 [00:05] <joe> well i guess im never playing minecraft again :/
#49 [00:05] <lemon-rev> lemonskin your runnning mods now, so its hard to tell what is up, im not good with mods, and i dont really understand them fully, so i guess unless you can find some online like at minecraft fourms,
#50 [00:06] <lemon-rev> joe is that out of memry only when you play online or singleplayer as well ?
#51 [00:06] <LemonSkin> Yeah, but it was happening on vanilla
#52 [00:06] <LemonSkin> So I'm fairly sure mods have nothing to do with it
#53 [00:07] <joe> lemon-rev, have not plaid online in a while, its happening on single. lemme check multi real quick
#54 [00:07] <lemon-rev> lemonskin i know some mods can have things to do but if your all uptodate say with java / and video drivers then i guess im out of luck
#55 [00:07] <LemonSkin> :\
#56 [00:07] <lemon-rev> joe how long would not played for a while mean ?
#57 [00:08] <joe> months
#58 [00:08] <lemon-rev> joe, have you tryed playing in broswer ?
#59 [00:09] <joe> wouldnt load
#60 [00:09] <lemon-rev> joe what you mean it wont load up ?
#61 [00:09] <joe> its loading now
#62 [00:09] <lemon-rev> ok
#63 [00:09] <lemon-rev> joe ie loading new files in minecraft ?
#64 [00:09] <joe> ill let you know if it crashes
#65 [00:10] <joe> no, last time i tried it was just black, but its up now
#66 [00:10] <lemon-rev> oh
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#69 [00:11] <vbitz> i can't install modloader, everytime i move modloader.class into minecraft.jar using the archive manager it just does not show up
#70 [00:11] <LemonSkin> The renderer occasionally "conks out" leaving the user with the dirt background or a black screen. If the user has the dirt background and attempts to do anything, it will then give the user a black screen. If you tab out, or try to click or press keys, it will crash.
#71 [00:11] <LemonSkin> Anyone know a fix for that as well?
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#74 [00:12] <joe> lemon-rev something i noticed is that in browser version i have 1017mb allocated but in the version outside of minecraft i have around 400
#75 [00:12] <Chris> vbits, we don't support mods in this channel
#76 [00:12] <lemon-rev> joe the broswer version is different from the loader so that is why
#77 [00:12] <Chris> vbitz**
#78 [00:13] <lemon-rev> ?? mods
#79 [00:13] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a vneue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#80 [00:13] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit or #bukkithelp -- Mod creators can also try #mcp-modding
#81 [00:13] <TheNytangel> *sarcasm* Boy, I just can't wait until we get to play Bad Romance for band day
#82 [00:13] <vbitz> is there a chaneal for modloader
#83 [00:13] <joe> lemon-rev java console says "out of mem" but game has not crashed
#84 [00:14] <lemon-rev> lol thats funny
#85 [00:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Need mod help? #mcp-modding or #risucraft .
#86 [00:14] <lemon-rev> ok is that from broswer joe ?
#87 [00:14] <lemon-rev> i dont think risucraft is working
#88 [00:14] <joe> lemon-rev yes
#89 [00:15] <lemon-rev> joe ok, well you might beable to try the laucher again but you might want to redownload the exe from minecraft.net just to make sure your running latest client
#90 [00:16] <joe> lemon-rev i already have re-downloaded the launcher a few minutes ago and it still crashed
#91 [00:16] <lemon-rev> wow
#92 [00:16] <lemon-rev> joe, ie still memory i wonder why that might be
#93 [00:17] <lemon-rev> but if your able to play in broswer then at least you can play
#94 [00:17] <joe> lemon-rev browser version just got "out of memory" errror
#95 [00:17] <joe> :/
#96 [00:17] <lemon-rev> yuck, ok thats running 1.8.1 ?
#97 [00:17] <joe> 1.94 <.<
#98 [00:18] <lemon-rev> oh
#99 [00:18] <lemon-rev> joe 1.94 is buggy as hell, i know that my self,
#100 [00:18] <lemon-rev> if you want a working version go back to 1.9,.3
#101 [00:18] <lemon-rev> lol
#102 [00:18] <joe> well ive got the out of mem w/out playing a prerelease
#103 [00:18] <joe> but ill give it a shot
#104 [00:19] <lemon-rev> joe minecraft is a game class of its own, it doesnt work like regular games man
#105 [00:20] <joe> whatever that means
#106 [00:21] <lemon-rev> joe regular games are pre mapped pre made by people minecraft it completely and utterly randomized
#107 [00:21] <lemon-rev> and from a randomized code you dont know what to get from what map to the next,
#108 [00:22] <joe> playing in 1.9 pre 3 to see if it crashes
#109 [00:24] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> ok now im REALLY going to sleep. ping me you die. unless its important. good night.
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#111 [00:26] <Chris> ??< don't/try
#112 [00:26] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> OMFG
#113 [00:26] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> WHO PINGED ME
#114 [00:26] <Chris> ah... what was the command...
#115 [00:27] <Chris> no one..?
#116 [00:27] <Chris> ??< index
#117 [00:27] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> why am i getting that loud beep?
#118 [00:27] * almostroot kicked emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE from #minecrafthelp (Reason: manfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE :emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE)
#119 [00:27] <Chris> ??< don't/bother
#120 [00:27] <Chris> ??< dont/bother
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#122 [00:28] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> why was i kicked?
#123 [00:29] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> sorry about that.
#124 [00:29] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> did you ping me, chris?
#125 [00:29] <Chris> I didnt... maybe its because there was a chat message and it beeped. Just mute your computer?
#126 [00:29] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> hm. whenever you talk, i get pinged...
#127 [00:30] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> ill try to fix that...
#128 [00:30] <Chris> :D it's cause you love me.. too much...
#129 [00:30] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> lol
#130 [00:33] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> now try saying something...
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#133 [00:34] <joe> lemon-rev well im sorry to say that ive been wasting your time this whole time but i have :/ that was my problem, i should not have been running 1.94 but i am happy to say that minecraft runs without running out of mem
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#135 [00:34] <lemon-rev> lol
#136 [00:34] <lemon-rev> 193 is better than 194 by far but you get that lol
#137 [00:35] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> chris, say something, i think i fixed the ping
#138 [00:35] <Chris> p*nis
#139 [00:35] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> yay
#140 [00:35] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> now i can sleep with my volumne on!
#141 [00:35] <joe> lemon-rev, your efforts to help me are greatly appreciated XD i will bring all my problems here for your expertise
#142 [00:36] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> good night everyone
#143 [00:36] <lemon-rev> joe, im not the only one that might have been able to help but keep playing mc and good luck
#144 [00:36] <joe> ty and gn
#145 [00:40] <TheNytangel> I just peed my pants a little
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#147 [00:40] <Chris> Anyone know who owns VoxelHead, wanna ask some questions...
#148 [00:41] <almostroot> Chris: I believe they are away right now. Any specific questions?
#149 [00:41] <Chris> almostroot: I was just wondering if it would be okay if I copied some of VB's commands
#150 [00:41] <Chris> for another channel
#151 [00:44] <almostroot> Chris: The bots are already available here. You could try sending VoxelHead a PM and seeing if the owner responds.
#152 [00:46] <Chris> Okay
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#155 [00:59] <Scott> Hey Kealper, whatever happen with what you showed me?
#156 [01:03] * Kealper should start sending notices instead of queries for one-liner responses
#156 [01:10] <Scott> lol
#157 [01:14] * mib_919gig [mib_919gig@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#158 [01:14] <mib_919gig> can you help me fix my mine craft
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#160 [01:15] <mib_919gig> can anyone help me fix minecraft
#161 [01:16] <Thrae> mib_919gig: Please be as detailed as possible. If you get an error, copy it to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL it sends you to after submittal.
#162 [01:16] <Kealper> .........lol.....
#163 [01:16] <Thrae> Sheesh, I guess I shouldn't have hesitated.
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#167 [02:17] <mib_fu9wth> is anyone there?
#168 [02:17] <mib_fu9wth> my minecraft wont work can anyone help me
#169 [02:18] <mib_fu9wth> guess not
#170 [02:18] <mib_fu9wth> Moneylost can you help
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#172 [02:20] <Thrae> Not again, sheesh
#173 [02:20] <[AJ]> o.o
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#176 [02:24] <lemon-rev> there getting better at leaving after a min of talking
#177 [02:24] <guest-0-94697> cept me i keep coming back
#178 [02:24] <lemon-rev> h
#179 [02:24] <lemon-rev> m
#180 [02:24] <guest-0-94697> make my server work!
#181 [02:24] <guest-0-94697> lol
#182 [02:25] <Thrae> guest-0-19967: What can we do for you? Please be as detailed as possible. If you get an error, copy it to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL it sends you to after submittal.
#183 [02:25] <lemon-rev> thats your job :P
#184 [02:26] <guest-0-94697> whats subnet mask for?
#185 [02:28] <Thrae> guest-0-94697: Basically it's the number of IPs available for that subnet -- read and enjoy -- http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1918.html
#186 [02:29] <guest-0-94697> 70.53.72.17 port 25565 would somone please attempt to join this
#187 [02:29] <guest-0-94697> !check
#188 [02:29] <guest-0-94697> !check 70.53.72.17
#189 [02:29] <Thrae> When AuBot says that then it means the port is open but not forwarded properly, or the server isn't running.
#190 [02:29] <guest-0-94697> darn i dont know what else to try
#191 [02:30] <Thrae> guest-0-94697: Did you follow the instructions at www.portforward.com ?
#192 [02:30] <Ketsueki> guest-0-94697: are you running any mods on it that might make it not allow a vanilla client login?
#193 [02:30] <guest-0-94697> nope just straight 1.8 dl and server dl from site
#194 [02:30] <guest-0-94697> no map no mod
#195 [02:31] <Ketsueki> guest-0-94697: if you have it setup right you should see a connection attempt when something /tries/ to connect.
#196 [02:32] <Ketsueki> IE when AuBot does so
#197 [02:32] <guest-0-94697> o and yes I did port checker thing i added both types of exceptions for 25565
#198 [02:32] <guest-0-94697> but it says its still closed
#199 [02:33] <guest-0-94697> i also excepted the program and the ports in my windows firewall
#200 [02:33] <guest-0-94697> and on my modem page i have a hard time making sense of it but i dont see anything wrong
#201 [02:33] <Ketsueki> guest-0-94697: is it forwarded FROM your router TO your computer?
#202 [02:33] <guest-0-94697> im not sure how to check or do that for certain
#203 [02:34] <guest-0-94697> i have my router page open
#204 [02:34] <guest-0-94697> well my modem page
#205 [02:34] <guest-0-94697> DHCP configuration right?
#206 [02:34] <Ketsueki> guest-0-94697: well windowslogokey + r (like shift r but with the other key) cmd (run cmd) in the dos window type 'ipconfig' the address you get is what your internal network address is.
#207 [02:34] <Ketsueki> guest-0-94697: none of them are the same
#208 [02:35] <Ketsueki> guest-0-94697: every bloody router/modem is different
#209 [02:35] <guest-0-94697> 192.168.2.11 is my ip4
#210 [02:35] <Ketsueki> However in general you need to setup some kind of Forwarding rule for the port 25565 from the world to your /internal/ address
#211 [02:35] <guest-0-94697> ipv4
#212 [02:36] <Ketsueki> guest-0-94697: I'd do both TCP and UDP since I'm not sure which are used
#213 [02:36] <guest-0-94697> i did that
#214 [02:36] <guest-0-94697> i did both for modem and firewall
#215 [02:36] <guest-0-94697> but port checker when i try and run it
#216 [02:36] <Ketsueki> Then 1) You either didn't do it right. 2) There's a firewall somwhere else.
#217 [02:36] <guest-0-94697> humm
#218 [02:37] <TheBadShepperd> guest-0-19967, what firewall software do you use?
#219 [02:37] <guest-0-94697> none just windows and my modem
#220 [02:38] <guest-0-94697> I have CA Security Centre for virus scan
#221 [02:39] <guest-0-94697> !check
#222 [02:39] <guest-0-94697> i completly disabled my firewall for windows but still no go ><
#223 [02:39] <guest-0-94697> my modem wont let me disable completly
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#226 [02:48] <Silent_Samurai> It says that we should use Sun Java, where I do get Sun java for Ubuntu 10.04 64bit, I can only see OpenJDK :\
#227 [02:54] <lemon-rev> i think thats prob it Silent_Samurai
#228 [02:54] <lemon-rev> openjdk is prob only open source linux , but you could read up on that
#229 [02:54] <Silent_Samurai> Oh well.
#230 [02:54] <Silent_Samurai> Minecraft doesn't run.
#231 [02:55] <lemon-rev> whats it doing ?
#232 [02:55] <Silent_Samurai> Froze on the Mojang screen
#233 [02:55] <Silent_Samurai> So I killed it and its still there somehow
#234 [02:55] <lemon-rev> that via the launcher or via the broswer
#235 [02:55] <Silent_Samurai> Launch
#236 [02:55] <Silent_Samurai> er
#237 [02:55] <lemon-rev> hvae you tryed via a borswer
#238 [02:55] <lemon-rev> broswer*
#239 [02:55] <Silent_Samurai> No.
#240 [02:56] <lemon-rev> can you do so, open like what ever you surf the web with and goto minecraft.net login and click in browswer
#241 [02:58] <Silent_Samurai> I got it to boot.
#242 [02:58] <lemon-rev> ok, so is it working ?
#243 [02:59] <Silent_Samurai> Yeah, I'm just getting crappy FPS>
#244 [03:00] <lemon-rev> ok
#245 [03:00] <lemon-rev> ok Silent_Samurai can you now try again with the launcher
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#247 [03:01] <Silent_Samurai> Whatever, screw it, I'll get around to fixing Windows tomorrow, too lazy for Linux.
#248 [03:01] <lemon-rev> lol
#249 [03:01] <lemon-rev> np
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#251 [03:02] <frogonia> out of memory
#252 [03:03] <lemon-rev> frogonia has the game worked before
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#254 [03:19] <tommmyymym> Can anyone help me with something?
#255 [03:19] <Thrae> tommmyymym: What can we do for you? Please be as detailed as possible. If you get an error, copy it to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL it sends you to after submittal.
#256 [03:20] <tommmyymym> i was logging in to minecraft
#257 [03:20] <tommmyymym> when it said it crashed
#258 [03:20] <tommmyymym> i deleted it
#259 [03:20] <tommmyymym> downloaded it again
#260 [03:20] <tommmyymym> but it still didnt work
#261 [03:20] <tommmyymym> any ideas?
#262 [03:21] <Thrae> tommmyymym: Using Windows?
#263 [03:21] <tommmyymym> yes
#264 [03:21] <tommmyymym> ill paste what it told me
#265 [03:21] <Thrae> tommmyymym: Download and use http://mc.kealper.com/mchelp/mcdebug.exe to launch and play Minecraft. When it crashes we'll get an automatic error report submitted to www.pastebin.com.
#266 [03:22] <Thrae> tommmyymym: Oh, no need for downloading MCDebug.exe then -- yeah, paste what you have to www.pastebin.com and give us the link
#267 [03:22] <tommmyymym> thx
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#269 [03:24] <Thrae> tommmyymym: That shows no error....can you paste the error report you got to www.pastebin.com and give us the link ?
#270 [03:24] <tommmyymym> Minecraft has crashed!
#271 [03:24] <tommmyymym> wait gimme a sec
#272 [03:24] <tommmyymym> Minecraft has crashed!
#273 [03:24] <tommmyymym> hmm
#274 [03:25] <Thrae> Don't paste it HERE. Paste it to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
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#278 [03:33] <Monn> hello
#279 [03:36] <Thrae> Monn: What can we do for you? Please be as detailed as possible. If you get an error, copy it to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL it sends you to after submittal.
#280 [03:38] <Monn> Thrae: i don't have a problem i am a freind to kealper... just wanted to join.. :D thx you anyway
#281 [03:38] <Kealper> D:
#282 [03:38] <Monn> Kealperrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :D
#283 [03:38] * Kealper hides behind AuBot
#283 [03:39] * Kealper goes back to updating his blog
#283 [03:39] * Monn go back watching Kealper
#283 [03:39] <Thrae> Kealper: I've been thinking...it's a long shot, but do you think having AuBot auto-query/message/notice/whatever people to be *patient*, saying it can take up to 10 minutes for a helper to start responding could help the impatient any?
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#285 [03:40] <Kealper> well, what do you mean notice people? like what would be the trigger?
#286 [03:40] <Kealper> liek if they say certain key words or what?
#287 [03:40] <Kealper> like*
#288 [03:41] <Thrae> Maybe we could even have AuBot say something official sounding, like "Hi, if you need help please note you are in the queue and will be helped when we can get to you. Please be patient!"
#289 [03:41] <Kealper> but i mean....like have it as a channel MOTD or what?
#290 [03:41] <Thrae> Hmm, I was thinking simply if the user hasn't been seen before, especially for mibs
#291 [03:42] <Thrae> Yeah that'd be fine probably
#292 [03:42] <Kealper> hmm....
#293 [03:42] <Kealper> sounds like i could just modify my lastseen module to do that
#294 [03:43] <Kealper> lemme see if greybot is squatting some commands first, it uses !seen so it was a bit annoying to have both bots respond
#295 [03:43] <Kealper> !lastseen Kealper
#296 [03:43] <Kealper> looks like i can just use that
#297 [03:44] <Thrae> Honestly impatient people are a PITA to help anyway, but this is the stuff I think about when there's lulls
#298 [03:44] <Kealper> yeah, i know what you mean
#299 [03:44] <Kealper> i seen you jump up when Monn entered XD
#300 [03:45] <Thrae> After missing 2 people, one that waited for 1 minute, one that waited for 3 ;)
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#302 [03:46] <Kealper> i'll see if it's feasable in a few minutes, working on something atm
#303 [03:46] <Kealper> to throw that into the lastseen module, that is
#304 [03:46] <Thrae> When I was doing phone support it always bugged me, even after doing it for 3 years, when people dropped out of my queue while I was helping someone...of course this type of help isn't time-limited by any means
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#306 [03:50] <Monn> bacjk
#307 [03:50] <Monn> back*
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#309 [03:52] <Kealper> wb lol
#310 [03:52] <Kealper> ugh, stupid setting...lol
#311 [03:52] <Kealper> Monn: just remember that this chat channel is a technical support channel and not a general-chat channel
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#313 [03:53] <Monn> ok Kealper
#314 [03:53] <Monn> ;p;
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#317 [03:56] <Monn> nw......
#318 [03:56] <Monn> pure black :d
#319 [03:58] <Monn> Writing colored added
#320 [03:59] <Monn> Kealpaer Ychat?
#321 [03:59] <Monn> Kealepr
#322 [03:59] <Monn> *
#323 [03:59] <Monn> Kealper*
#324 [03:59] <Monn> shit damn.. lol
#325 [03:59] <Kealper> hmm?
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#330 [04:43] <Chris> !paid Hysting
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#341 [05:12] <Guest8110017> Can anyone help me with a fps problem?
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#344 [05:23] <Thrae> devils: Thanks for waiting. What seems to be the problem? Can you elaborate?
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#346 [05:30] <bernard> Hi, can't play minecraft at all. won't load just comes up with a blank screen. my son bought the full version of the game last week and has played on it once and not able to get onto the game online or download it as it just errors. what is going on?
#347 [05:30] <Calinou> what is your operating system, what is your java's version? are you using the downloadable client or playing in the browser? did you installed any mods?
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#351 [05:31] <bernard> i am not a techy, just a mum with limited knowledge, tried to download update for java a while back but it made my computer crash. will check which version i have
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#353 [05:32] <bernard> i have version 6 of java
#354 [05:33] <bernard> play in browser usually - tried to download but it just errors
#355 [05:33] <blackhawk> my sound does not work how do i fix it and i have a mac ?
#356 [05:33] <Thrae> bernard: Check http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
#357 [05:34] <bernard> operating system is windows vista
#358 [05:34] <bernard> thanks thrae
#359 [05:35] <blackhawk> java is working
#360 [05:36] <lemon-rev> blackhawk what version of mc are you useing ?
#361 [05:36] <Thrae> blackhawk: Have you tried the in-browser version at http://www.minecraft.net/play ?
#362 [05:37] <blackhawk> my mac has a OS x 10.6.7 operating system
#363 [05:37] <blackhawk> yes
#364 [05:37] <lemon-rev> blackhawk i was meaning minecraft version as well but thanks for the info
#365 [05:38] <blackhawk> 1.8
#366 [05:38] <bernard> installing java so signing off, thanks for the tips
#367 [05:38] <Thrae> blackhawk: So, does the browser version work?
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#369 [05:39] <lemon-rev> blackhawk ok, if you turn the sound to like 100% if you walk can you hear anything, the game it self doesnt really have that much in sound but it should be noticeable
#370 [05:40] <blackhawk> ok
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#372 [05:41] <lemon-rev> sorry thrae :P
#373 [05:41] <devils> Thrae: So sorry :(, was trying to find something on the forums so I wouldn't have to bother everyone
#374 [05:42] <devils> If your still willing I still have the problem?
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#376 [05:42] <lemon-rev> devils just wait for thare to come back, and help you
#377 [05:43] <devils> Ok will have this in a mini window so I will see it this time T-T
#378 [05:43] <Thrae> lemon-rev: Not your fault if they misinterpret
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#380 [05:44] <blackhawk> sound dose not work
#381 [05:44] <lemon-rev> lol, yea i know
#382 [05:44] <blackhawk> why
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#385 [05:45] <blackhawk> my sound does not work helper
#386 [05:45] <lemon-rev> thare do you know of mac trouble, im just trying to look it up
#387 [05:45] <lemon-rev> blackhawk have you heard of a program called "Pacifist"
#388 [05:45] <blackhawk> no
#389 [05:45] <lemon-rev> hm
#390 [05:46] <Thrae> devils: This is the official help channel setup by Mojang and run by volunteers not affiliated with Mojang -- we're here to be bothered
#391 [05:46] <lemon-rev> do you have the mac os cd ?
#392 [05:46] <blackhawk> i have the mac
#393 [05:46] <lemon-rev> blackhawk i know
#394 [05:46] * Thrae wonders if updating LWJGL manually will solve anything
#394 [05:47] <lemon-rev> whats the command its ike
#395 [05:47] <lemon-rev> !!!
#396 [05:47] <devils> lol, thanks but it is just common courtesy to respond especially when I asked the question :)
#397 [05:47] <lemon-rev> ??> blackhawk lwjgl
#398 [05:47] <lemon-rev> hm
#399 [05:48] <Thrae> lemon-rev: There isn't one
#400 [05:48] <Thrae> blackhawk: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
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#402 [05:49] <Thrae> ??< linux/dontdothis
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#404 [05:50] <bernard> still can't load minecraft aaaah!
#405 [05:50] <lemon-rev> good info for mac's and java http://www.michael-amorose.com/articles/computers/os_x/technologies/java/index.html
#406 [05:50] <Thrae> bernard: Hmm, are you using Windows? Is the client stopping when trying to download Minecraft?
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#409 [05:52] <Thrae> lemon-rev: Yeah, also important is http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1360
#410 [05:52] <devils> Thrae: Just let me know when you have some free time. Going to go to forums to try and find a solution
#411 [05:52] <bernard> using windows, but what i don't understand is that a few days ago it was working fine, i updated my browser and then found it wouldn't work, so i reset the settings back to how they were before the problem but now it won't load, (before it wouldn't even connect to the site and just errored)
#412 [05:52] <lemon-rev> ill look it up
#413 [05:53] <lemon-rev> k
#414 [05:53] <Thrae> Also http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1359 and, of course, http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1421
#415 [05:53] <mib_inuq2t> my computer tells me that i can not connect to the server and it is probally down, what can i do?
#416 [05:53] <Thrae> devils: I have free time now
#417 [05:53] <devils> Thrae: o awesome
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#419 [05:54] <Thrae> mib_inuq2t: "the server" meaning someone's Minecraft server?
#420 [05:54] <Thrae> bernard: OK, are you playing Minecraft only through the browser, or is it giving you the same problem with the launcher/client ?
#421 [05:54] * lemon-rev interesting to say that os lion doesnt hava java lol but kewl :P
#421 [05:54] <mib_inuq2t> yeah
#422 [05:54] <Thrae> lemon-rev: Yeah and iPad doesn't have Flash, silly, silly Apple
#423 [05:55] <Thrae> ??< smp
#424 [05:55] <Calinou> ??< linux/dontdothis
#425 [05:55] <lemon-rev> lol, well just means a lot of web based things dont work
#426 [05:55] <Thrae> ??< smp/servers
#427 [05:55] <bernard> usually play thru browser. loads as usual just blank screen at end
#428 [05:55] <Thrae> mib_inuq2t: Try some servers in these fan-made indexes -- http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#429 [05:55] <lemon-rev> mib_inuq2t have you had troubles with the server b efore
#430 [05:56] <Thrae> mib_inuq2t: Probably the server you're trying to connect to is down or having problems, so trying a different server will help you figure that out
#431 [05:56] <bernard> Thrae usually play thru browser. loads as usual just blank screen at end
#432 [05:56] <mib_inuq2t> no i just bought minecraft and okay i will
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#434 [05:56] <Discovered> Hello
#435 [05:57] <Thrae> bernard: OK well try downloading the client from http://www.minecraft.net/download and see if the same thing happens. If it gives an error message, paste it up to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#436 [05:57] <lemon-rev> mib_inuq2t does the game work well with out being on smp ?
#437 [05:57] <bernard> Thrae thank you!!
#438 [05:57] <Thrae> Discovered: What can we do for you? Please be as detailed as possible. If you get an error, copy it to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL it sends you to after submittal.
#439 [05:57] <Cruxsky> What is 14.95 in USD?
#440 [05:57] <devils> Well it is a simple FPS problem. I have a Intel COre i7-2630 CPU with 2 GHz, 8 gb RAM, 64-bit operation system and a radeon 6770 hd graphics card and on low-medium settings for minecraft the average fps i get is around 25-30. When I move alot or a monster comes the fps goes to like 20-25. Just wondering what is going on as I have seen others with the same Graphics card at least have
#441 [05:57] <devils> great results with the game with the highest settings to boot.
#442 [05:58] <Discovered> I'm having some trouble pursaching the game. The issue lays within registering to MoneyBookers.
#443 [05:58] <Discovered> I have tried all six of my e-mail addresses to register but it keeps saying it's in use.
#444 [05:58] <Thrae> Cruxsky: https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=14.95+euro+in+usd
#445 [05:58] <Discovered> Even tried to register with a friend's e-mail who runs a store (his work e-mail).
#446 [05:58] <Discovered> And it also keeps telling me my password is incorrect for some reason.
#447 [05:58] <Thrae> Discovered: Huh. How are you trying to pay? Credit/Debit card?
#448 [05:59] <lemon-rev> devils dude, its prob the setting your set the card for minecraft at, thats doing the thing, are you running mods / what version of minecraft have you got ?
#449 [05:59] <Discovered> Credit and iDEAL
#450 [05:59] <Cruxsky> yeah.. I was charged more .
#451 [05:59] <Cruxsky> i bought 2 accounts. one for me and one for a friend. one is 21.01 and the other is 21.26 ?
#452 [05:59] <Thrae> Discovered: Just use Paypal without an account. When you click on Paypal it'll give you a link on the page (a small link) to "pay without an account"
#453 [05:59] <Discovered> Can't I just pursache the game without having to get involved with MoneyBookers?
#454 [06:00] <devils> no mods no nothing. and the latest version of minecraft that is stable. 1.8
#455 [06:00] <Discovered> I'll check in a second, thanks.
#456 [06:00] <Discovered> I already have a paypal account but recently transferred all the money to my bank account. ;)
#457 [06:00] <devils> or 1.8.1 to be exact
#458 [06:00] <Thrae> Cruxsky: Currency conversion rates can change per day and even per hour, and what Google shows is ONE currency rate index. The one Moneybookers / Paypal use can be different. And if you use a different payment method (like Credit Card instead of Cash/Debit) that can also change the rate.
#459 [06:01] <Discovered> By the way Thrae, please poke Notch and tell him he made a little mistake in pursaching page. :p
#460 [06:01] <Discovered> Links you to the Swedish Paypal website. ;)
#461 [06:01] <lemon-rev> devils ok, that version or should i say all the versions so far have been buggy the 181 version is currently being worked on, you could test it with other pre releases from minecraft fourms but i wont hold your breath
#462 [06:01] <Thrae> Discovered: Doesn't for me
#463 [06:01] <bernard> thrae there's nothing. run the minecraft.exe (270KB) and its a blank
#464 [06:01] <Discovered> Must be me than. =)
#465 [06:02] <Thrae> Discovered: Yeah probably a bad cookie
#466 [06:02] <Thrae> (Paypal's cookie)
#467 [06:02] <Thrae> bernard: Does it just give a blank screen or does it crash?
#468 [06:02] <bernard> just a black blank screen
#469 [06:03] <bernard> thrae black blank scree
#470 [06:03] <Thrae> bernard: OK, go to Programs and Features (Add/Remove on XP) and uninstall all versions of Java found there. Then reinstall from this link...
#471 [06:03] <Thrae> :j
#472 [06:03] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#473 [06:03] <devils> lemon: Could you elaborate on why you don't think anything would fix it?
#474 [06:04] <bernard> thank you, again!!
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#477 [06:04] <Slimo> hallo
#478 [06:04] <Thrae> devils: Is this a desktop or a laptop? Are you using Windows and a batch file to launch Java?
#479 [06:05] <lemon-rev> devils i said that maybe a possible pre release like 1.9 1.9.3 which is the most stable pre release atm, that is out, might help but atm, mojang are just releasing content to make sure everything is kinda working b efore the full release comes out
#480 [06:05] <Discovered> @Thrae: (translated from Dutch) 'Unfortunately your payment can't be done through your PayPal account. Go back to our webshop and try another payment method (in case possible).'
#481 [06:05] <lemon-rev> not to say they realise fully working things , but the game should be out sooner than you think
#482 [06:05] <devils> laptop and windows 7 and from what i know of no batch file. Just using the default starter file you recieve from downloading the platform
#483 [06:05] <Discovered> Normally I search till I found the issue but I don't see why it's so hard to pursache a game.
#484 [06:05] <Thrae> Discovered: Try doing it *without* an account.
#485 [06:06] <Discovered> I mean, this should be pressing a few buttons and go.
#486 [06:06] <Discovered> I already did
#487 [06:06] <Discovered> I am paying as a guest and yet it still returns me this error.
#488 [06:06] <Thrae> Discovered: Sounds like your bank/payee isn't trusted.
#489 [06:06] <Discovered> message*
#490 [06:06] <Discovered> MasterCard
#491 [06:06] <Thrae> Pre-Paid?
#492 [06:06] <Slimo> minecraft will not on vista 64 bit load free play :(
#493 [06:06] <Discovered> credit
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#495 [06:06] <Discovered> (not very good with this stuff :p)
#496 [06:07] <lemon-rev> slimo are you after the demo ?
#497 [06:07] <Slimo> yes
#498 [06:07] <lemon-rev> Discovered try keeping your sentaces to one line please
#499 [06:07] <Thrae> Discovered: Try going to gmail.com, making a new email address, and see if Moneybookers will allow you to register with that.
#500 [06:07] <lemon-rev> ??> slimo win/demo
#501 [06:07] <lemon-rev> ??> slimo demo
#502 [06:07] <VoxelHead> slimo: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#503 [06:07] <VoxelHead> slimo: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#504 [06:07] <Discovered> No it won't, I already tried that.
#505 [06:08] <lemon-rev> Discovered ring your bank and ask them to follow you as you try and buy the game online and see if they can work out where the stopage is occuring
#506 [06:08] <Thrae> Discovered: Does it give the "email address in use" error?
#507 [06:08] <Discovered> I don't really see why it's so hard for me to pay for this game..
#508 [06:09] <Discovered> Yes
#509 [06:09] <Discovered> And sometimes the password is incorrect.
#510 [06:09] <Discovered> While other times the same password works just fine..
#511 [06:09] <lemon-rev> Discovered that is why i told you to contact your bank and see if they can work it out, we from here just cant do anything
#512 [06:10] <Thrae> Discovered: Sounds like both your Moneybooker and Paypal accounts are screwed up, or the Moneybookers site specifically is going through some problems. We really can't do anything else for you here since we're not directly affiliated with Mojang. Just volunteers.
#513 [06:10] <devils> lemon: I tried running it in browser to see if that would help for some reason and there it gave me a bad video card due to the OpenGL mode. @Thrae: just in case you didn't see it, i am running it on a laptop and windows 7 and from what i know of no batch file. Just using the default starter file you recieve from downloading the platform
#514 [06:10] <Discovered> But why does it require me to register a MoneyBooker account if I don't even want to get involved with this company? All I want is a direct payment from my credit card..
#515 [06:10] <Thrae> devils: OK, a laptop then. Does this laptop have Switchable Graphics?
#516 [06:10] <devils> That it does
#517 [06:10] <Discovered> Why would you link Minecraft with Moneybookers in any way?
#518 [06:10] <lemon-rev> ok devils windows / mac ?
#519 [06:10] <devils> I had wondered if that would be a problem
#520 [06:11] <devils> Windows
#521 [06:11] <lemon-rev> ??> devils win/dxdiag
#522 [06:11] <VoxelHead> devils: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#523 [06:11] <devils> Windows 7 64 bit to be a bit more specific
#524 [06:11] <VoxelHead> devils: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#525 [06:11] <lemon-rev> devils that will tell me all the info i need
#526 [06:11] <Thrae> Discovered: It costs a lot of money to deal with payment, so Mojang being a tiny indie company of 9 outsources it to Moneybookers/Paypal.
#527 [06:12] <Discovered> That makes sense yeah. =P
#528 [06:12] <Thrae> s/payment/international payment/
#529 [06:12] <Thrae> I've heard of people having problem with one of the two payment services but not both unless there's something wrong at the bank end
#530 [06:12] <Discovered> There must be an easier way. I have been googling and searching around some forums the past two hours and found out many people are having issues like me..
#531 [06:13] <Thrae> But your error messages are bizarre...I'm thinking it's because you already have a Moneybookers account, so it's looking at your address you put in and denying the extra account
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#533 [06:13] <Discovered> I do indeed have one account already.
#534 [06:13] <lemon-rev> Discovered is that only today though, i bet its happend all over the place, and yes we know people have trouble, that is why we ask you what we ask
#535 [06:13] <Discovered> But I used a wrong phone number (typo..) and so I can't retrieve my password.
#536 [06:13] <Thrae> devils: A common mistake with Switchable Graphics is to set it to Minecraft.exe instead of java.exe and javaw.exe.
#537 [06:14] <devils> @Voxel and lemon: http://pastebin.com/yMi06CZX
#538 [06:14] <lemon-rev> ty devils
#539 [06:14] <devils> No, thank you :)
#540 [06:14] <Thrae> Discovered: You could probably retrieve the password through the email address you used if you contact them
#541 [06:14] <Discovered> Apparently not. =(
#542 [06:15] <lemon-rev> devils dude, Mobile Intel(R) HD Graphics < this is what its reporting if you have a 6600 or there abouts its not acitavted on windows
#543 [06:15] <Discovered> Requires me to enter a code which is written in a SMS (text) I would get..
#544 [06:15] <Thrae> devils: "Card name: Mobile Intel(R) HD Graphics" "Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc." <-- Switchable Graphics
#545 [06:15] <lemon-rev> devils but as far as i can see the driver is right up todate which is pleaseing to see
#546 [06:15] <Thrae> devils problem is that his Switchable Graphics is using the Intel chipset instead of ATI
#547 [06:16] <devils> Lemon: yeah I made sure I to check updates first. and REALLY!?!?
#548 [06:16] <devils> I thought it might be the case
#549 [06:16] <devils> but I have no idea how to go about fixing it
#550 [06:17] <lemon-rev> devils lets look it up then
#551 [06:17] <Thrae> devils: Basically, you want to go into your Catalyst Control Center, and find a section regarding “Switchable Graphics” and add "java.exe" and "javaw.exe"
#552 [06:17] <Thrae> I"m googling for a guide
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#554 [06:17] <devils> Cool, because I have been everywhere in there and still can't find a place where you can do that
#555 [06:17] <Thrae> devils: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c03048374
#556 [06:18] <Thrae> devils: It's part of the ATI Catalyst Control Center
#557 [06:18] <devils> Yeah I am in there
#558 [06:18] <lemon-rev> thrae shoult the card acaully be activated first though windows ie the 6600 instead of just activateing say java ???
#559 [06:18] <devils> BUt I found it
#560 [06:18] <devils> I was looking in gaming
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#562 [06:18] <devils> it is in pwoer saver apparently
#563 [06:19] <devils> so set javaw.exe to the ATI?
#564 [06:19] <devils> or radeon
#565 [06:19] <devils> sorry
#566 [06:19] <bernard> thrae someone posted a link for java just now and i can't see it anymore as i had to close everything to uninstall java
#567 [06:19] <Thrae> lemon-rev: You'd need a BIOS compatible with the "Fixed" option instead of just "Dynamic". There are different ways to implement Switchable Graphics. For instance, ASUS has its own method that's different than ATI and Nvidia's.
#568 [06:19] <lemon-rev> devils most likely radian
#569 [06:20] <devils> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#570 [06:20] <Thrae> Some of them are only Fixed, some of them are only Dynamic, some of them you can change possibly after a BIOS update
#571 [06:20] <devils> fyi bernard: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#572 [06:20] <bernard> thanks devils - new to this
#573 [06:20] <lemon-rev> hm, i knew there where different methods but mostly bio's and also windows tunablility but ok, thanks for the update on that though :)
#574 [06:21] <Discovered> Turns out I still have 75 Euro on my second paypal account. Reporting back soon :)
#575 [06:21] <Thrae> lemon-rev: Yeah, just updated this thread with the ATI info -- http://www.minecraftirc.net/thread-17.html
#576 [06:22] <devils> ok so applied it
#577 [06:22] <devils> but it seems to haven't changed much when i open minecraft again
#578 [06:22] <devils> should i restart and see if that has any effect?
#579 [06:22] <Thrae> devils: For all java.exe and javaw.exe found in C:\Program Files\Java ?
#580 [06:22] <Discovered> WORKED! =D
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#582 [06:23] <lemon-rev> sweet, thanks for that i should acually mark that lol,
#583 [06:23] <devils> ahhhh didn't do java.exe
#584 [06:23] <devils> and should i do program files or program files(x86)
#585 [06:24] <Thrae> devils: If you want to be thorough do both
#586 [06:25] <Thrae> devils: You *should* be using Java 64-bit if your PATH is setup correctly, but you never know
#587 [06:25] <bernard> devils 440425 not on the page
#588 [06:25] <Thrae> bernard: You can't browse to http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html ?
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#590 [06:26] <bernard> devils went to page lots on the list but not that number
#591 [06:26] <Thrae> bernard: On that page you want to download Windows x86 Offline and Windows x64
#592 [06:27] <bernard> thrae thanks again :0)
#593 [06:27] <Discovered> Thrae what's the difference between paid and cracked version of Minecraft?
#594 [06:27] <Thrae> Discovered: What's the difference between stealing an apple and buying one?
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#596 [06:28] <Discovered> I meant if there is a visible difference
#597 [06:28] <Thrae> Discovered: We don't talk about piracy here except to say don't do it.
#598 [06:28] <Krenair> Discovered, it depends on the crack really
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#600 [06:28] <Discovered> I'm not very good with this, sorry for asking I guess?
#601 [06:28] <Krenair> Discovered, but in at least one cracked client I know of, you get to chose the name you log in with
#602 [06:28] <mysteryhoodedma> quick question
#603 [06:29] <Krenair> You just can't join any server which requires notchian drm
#604 [06:29] <Thrae> Discovered: NP, it's the one of the major rules of this channel.
#605 [06:29] <Thrae> Rules: http://goo.gl/bmDxr
#606 [06:29] <Discovered> OK thanks
#607 [06:29] <mysteryhoodedma> any admins you can pm questions?
#608 [06:29] <Discovered> Well, I've got another problem.
#609 [06:29] <mysteryhoodedma> instead of typing here?
#610 [06:30] <Thrae> mysteryhoodedma: We generally don't respond to PMs. Just type your problem out here in the channel.
#611 [06:30] <mysteryhoodedma> well k the
#612 [06:30] <mysteryhoodedma> then
#613 [06:30] <mysteryhoodedma> every single time i try to run minecraft, it says: Java(TM) Platform SE binary is stopped working,...
#614 [06:30] <Discovered> Ever since yesterday night for some reason minecraft keeps closing with a message that it has run out of memory. About every 2-5 minutes it crashes. I already tried re-downloading JAVA and this had a very small effect (before that it crashed every 10 seconds). I searched around and found nothing which could help me out thus far. =/
#615 [06:31] <mysteryhoodedma> is there found any solutions for this yet?
#616 [06:31] <mysteryhoodedma> what i have done: Updated Java, reinstalled minecraft and java
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#618 [06:31] <hirsty080> hey guys
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#620 [06:31] <Thrae> Discovered: Well you'd need to have a pristine official copy of Minecraft Beta before we can help.
#621 [06:31] <hirsty080> is it poss i could get 10 ppl to try out my server? :/
#622 [06:32] <Discovered> I just pursached the game.
#623 [06:32] <Discovered> :)
#624 [06:32] <Thrae> mysteryhoodedma: Using Windows?
#625 [06:32] <bernard> Thrae doesn't like the x64 version it errored says its not compatible but other version loaded ok
#626 [06:32] <Discovered> Threw away my 'bad' version.
#627 [06:32] <mysteryhoodedma> yep
#628 [06:32] <mysteryhoodedma> i am using windows 7
#629 [06:32] <Thrae> Discovered: Yeah, and did you get the confirmation email from Mojang already? What's your Minecraft username?
#630 [06:32] <Discovered> Discover_
#631 [06:32] <hirsty080> wanting 10 ish peeps: wanting to flatten bugs, pm me plx
#632 [06:32] <Discovered> I can PM you the paypal info
#633 [06:32] <Thrae> bernard: That's OK, I didn't know if you had 32-bit or 64-bit so I told you to install both
#634 [06:32] <Thrae> !paid Discover
#635 [06:33] <Discovered> ??
#636 [06:33] <Discovered> No, really.. I just bought it
#637 [06:33] <Discovered> lol
#638 [06:33] <bernard> Thrae coolage. thanx will see if that works!
#639 [06:33] <Thrae> Discovered: As we've been saying we're not directly affiliated with Mojang. Read VoxelHead's response....
#640 [06:33] <Thrae> ?? payment
#641 [06:33] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#642 [06:33] <hirsty080> !paid hirsty1989
#643 [06:33] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#644 [06:33] <Discovered> !paid Discover_
#645 [06:33] <Discovered> see?
#646 [06:33] <Discovered> Discover_ not Discover :P
#647 [06:33] <Thrae> Ah, OK
#648 [06:34] <Discovered> Discover was in use :(
#649 [06:34] <Thrae> Discovered: So you deleted everything in .minecraft and let the official Minecraft launcher from http://www.minecraft.net/download re-download everything?
#650 [06:34] <Discovered> Yeah but I'll try again
#651 [06:34] <bernard> Oh no... still a blank screen, what is going on???
#652 [06:34] <Discovered> Didn't throw away everything I believe
#653 [06:34] <Thrae> ??> mysteryhoodedma win/dxdiag
#654 [06:34] <VoxelHead> mysteryhoodedma: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#655 [06:34] <VoxelHead> mysteryhoodedma: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#656 [06:35] <Thrae> bernard: Follow VoxelHead's instructions I just sent to someone else for DxDiag ^^^^^\
#657 [06:35] <Thrae> Discovered: Throw away everything (copy your "saves" directory somewhere else, you can try to import it later)
#658 [06:35] <hirsty080> Needing 10 peeps to assist me in flattening out some bugs in my minecraft classic server (i will not be saving building this time around)
#659 [06:36] <Discovered> Can't delete minecraft
#660 [06:36] <Thrae> ?? dont/advertise
#661 [06:36] <VoxelHead> dont/advertise: This channel is not a venue for unsolicited advertisements. Please do not do that again. This is your warning.
#662 [06:36] <Discovered> Java(TM) Platform SE binary is opened
#663 [06:36] <hirsty080> Sorry
#664 [06:36] <Thrae> Discovered: Close your browsers and try again
#665 [06:36] <hirsty080> where can i go to get testers? :)
#666 [06:36] <Thrae> hirsty080: Not sure, check the rules for #minecraft
#667 [06:37] <hirsty080> thats says dont advertise
#668 [06:37] <Thrae> hirsty080: So maybe post on the Minecraft Forums?
#669 [06:38] <hirsty080> wanting a quick closed test tis all before i open it up
#670 [06:38] <mysteryhoodedma> Here you go: http://pastebin.com/QpsvyyU4
#671 [06:38] <bernard> Thrae I'm afraid i dont know what the win+R keys means/is. Sorry
#672 [06:38] <Thrae> ??> win/key bernard
#673 [06:38] <hirsty080> Windows key + R
#674 [06:38] <Thrae> ??> bernard win/key
#675 [06:38] <VoxelHead> bernard: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#676 [06:38] <hirsty080> near the Ctrl key to the left
#677 [06:38] <mysteryhoodedma> @Voxelhead http://pastebin.com/QpsvyyU4
#678 [06:38] <bernard> ok yes got it - i'm there!!
#679 [06:38] <Thrae> mysteryhoodedma: He's a bot, I'm looking at it, one sec
#680 [06:39] <mysteryhoodedma> oh
#681 [06:39] <mysteryhoodedma> =)
#682 [06:40] <Thrae> mysteryhoodedma: This is a desktop, right? Your Nvidia graphics driver is pretty old. Update it here -- http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-280.26-whql-driver.html
#683 [06:41] <mysteryhoodedma> ill try it out, ty
#684 [06:43] <devils> hmmmm
#685 [06:44] <devils> ijavaw.exe is on the right graphics card
#686 [06:44] <devils> but the game still has the same fps
#687 [06:44] <devils> this is really wierd
#688 [06:45] <Thrae> devils: There should be some indicator in the system tray which GPU is currently being used
#689 [06:45] <Thrae> Bottom-right
#690 [06:45] <devils> using f3 right?
#691 [06:45] <Thrae> No, F3 in Minecraft shows you Minecraft debug info
#692 [06:45] <Thrae> System tray is part of the Windows Desktop Environment.
#693 [06:46] <Thrae> Those icons in the bottom-right with the clock.
#694 [06:46] <devils> yeah i have a derp moment
#695 [06:46] <devils> had*
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#697 [06:51] <devils> ok i don't think it displays it
#698 [06:51] <devils> I am looking in the ccc icon
#699 [06:51] <devils> but it doens't tell me more then color and my dimensions
#700 [06:52] <Thrae> devils: If it's using the Intel chipset then the Intel tray icon will appear.
#701 [06:53] <bernard> thrae have created pastebin but i can't seem to paste the dxdiag on there
#702 [06:53] <Thrae> bernard: Make sure you go to Edit->Select All (same as CTRL+A) before you do Edit->Copy (same as CTRL+C).
#703 [06:55] <devils> the intel tray icon isn't there but i can't tell if it is accurate because i only have this up and it stil doesn't have the icon
#704 [06:56] <Thrae> devils: Well I think Mibbit uses Java too
#705 [06:56] <Thrae> devils: OK, try installing this graphics update -- http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#706 [06:56] <devils> hmmmm
#707 [06:56] <devils> oh
#708 [06:56] <devils> what does this do
#709 [06:57] <Thrae> devils: Updates your ATI graphics card drivers
#710 [06:57] <devils> but the system said it was fully updated?
#711 [06:57] <devils> but let me do it really quick then
#712 [06:57] <devils> ok, its done?
#713 [06:57] <Thrae> Well that's directly from the chipset manufacturer and usually the latest there is
#714 [06:57] <bernard> thrae did that but when i right click on paste bin paste is greyed out
#715 [06:58] <Thrae> bernard: Try www.pastie.org
#716 [06:58] <bernard> this is getting on my nerves!!!
#717 [06:58] <bernard> Ok thrae will do
#718 [06:58] <devils> are you coping the material directly from the txt file?
#719 [06:58] <devils> or the program version
#720 [06:58] <devils> if the program version you need to ssave it first then copy it
#721 [06:59] <bernard> thrae - it is done
#722 [06:59] <devils> congrats :)
#723 [06:59] <Thrae> devils: And just in case let's use 64-bit Java 6 with up to 2GB of memory -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat
#724 [06:59] <Thrae> bernard: Need the link
#725 [06:59] <bernard> oops hold on
#726 [07:00] <Discovered> I'm no on Beta 1.8.1
#727 [07:00] <Discovered> Why isn't pressing I opening ivnentory?
#728 [07:00] <devils> it tried to create virtual one?
#729 [07:00] <Chris> check your control settings discovered
#730 [07:00] <Thrae> Discovered: Did you delete *everything* in .minecraft ?
#731 [07:01] <Discovered> ah it was on E, thanks Chris.
#732 [07:01] <Discovered> Yes
#733 [07:01] <Discovered> Oh and yet again the Out of memory crash
#734 [07:01] <Discovered> Lots of trouble down here D=
#735 [07:01] <Thrae> Discovered: What's your total RAM?
#736 [07:01] <Discovered> 931 GB
#737 [07:01] <Thrae> devils: You said you have 6GB or 8GB total RAM?
#738 [07:01] <Thrae> Discovered: That's your HDD space, I need RAM
#739 [07:01] <Discovered> 796 available
#740 [07:01] <Discovered> oh
#741 [07:01] <Thrae> Memory
#742 [07:01] <Discovered> no idea where to find that :P
#743 [07:01] <devils> both yes
#744 [07:02] <devils> 8 gb
#745 [07:02] <Thrae> devils: Hmm did it say "Can't create Java virtual machine" ?
#746 [07:02] <devils> nah
#747 [07:02] <Thrae> ??> Discovered win/dxdiag
#748 [07:02] <VoxelHead> Discovered: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#749 [07:02] <devils> it can't find the class
#750 [07:02] <VoxelHead> Discovered: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#751 [07:02] <Discovered> ah
#752 [07:02] <Discovered> foudn it
#753 [07:02] <Discovered> 4 GB ram installed it seems
#754 [07:02] <Thrae> devils: Oh, well it needs to be in the same location as Minecraft.exe
#755 [07:02] <bernard> thrae - omg this is so complex, way over my head. how do i get a url to post to you
#756 [07:02] <Discovered> Windows 7 ultimate
#757 [07:02] <devils> the class: net.minecraft.launcherframe
#758 [07:03] <devils> ahhhhh
#759 [07:03] <Thrae> bernard: Once you submit the paste to either www.pastebin.com or www.pastie.org your URL will change. We need that URL.
#760 [07:03] <devils> k
#761 [07:03] <devils> done
#762 [07:03] <Discovered> (64 bit W7)
#763 [07:03] <Thrae> Discovered: OK, place this batch file in the same location as Minecraft.exe -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat
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#765 [07:04] <libraryaddict> !isdown
#766 [07:04] <GreyBot> libraryaddict: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#767 [07:04] <Discovered> That is on mu desktop or in my .minecraft folder?
#768 [07:04] <Discovered> 'Could not create the Java virtual machine.'
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#770 [07:04] <EvillLynx> !isdown
#771 [07:04] <GreyBot> EvillLynx: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#772 [07:04] <bernard> thrae - it still says www.pastie.org on the bit at the top
#773 [07:05] <libraryaddict> !isdown irc.esper.net
#774 [07:05] <bernard> sorry don't know tech stuff
#775 [07:05] <GreyBot> libraryaddict: It's not just you! http://irc.esper.net looks down from here.
#776 [07:05] <Thrae> Discovered: It's wherever you place it. Most people its the desktop.
#777 [07:05] <Discovered> <Discovered> 'Could not create the Java virtual machine.'
#778 [07:05] <devils> k done that Thrae and it is up and running
#779 [07:05] <devils> what do you want me to check?
#780 [07:05] <Thrae> bernard: It's your address. When you submit something on www.pastie.org it'll change to something like www.pastie.org/DGAGDD
#781 [07:05] <Thrae> devils: If there's still a slowdown or not
#782 [07:05] <bernard> thrae it didnt change
#783 [07:06] <Thrae> bernard: OK, when you paste something in www.pastie.org you have to hit the big "Paste" button afterwards to submit it. Then it'll change to something like this -- "http://www.pastie.org/2705125"
#784 [07:06] <EvillLynx> Anyone help me
#785 [07:07] <Thrae> EvillLynx: Need your problem
#786 [07:07] <devils> Thrae: Yes, there is still the slow down
#787 [07:07] <Thrae> Discovered: That usually means you don't have at least 1GB free of RAM
#788 [07:07] <Discovered> I can't even open your .bat :/
#789 [07:07] <EvillLynx> Why can't i connect to minecraft?
#790 [07:07] <Discovered> 'Could not create the Java virtual machine.'
#791 [07:07] <devils> put it with the minecraft.exe file
#792 [07:07] <Thrae> Discovered: Is that the entire error message?
#793 [07:07] <devils> wherever that is
#794 [07:07] <EvillLynx> It says cannot connect to minecraft.net
#795 [07:07] <Discovered> I can't open the bat! lol
#796 [07:07] <Discovered> Yes
#797 [07:07] <bernard> thrae omg im so thick!! thanks for that rotfl - http://www.pastie.org/2705129
#798 [07:07] <Thrae> EvillLynx: Did it work before?
#799 [07:08] <EvillLynx> Yeh it did yesterday nihgt
#800 [07:08] <Thrae> Discovered: Then you are low on free RAM
#801 [07:08] <EvillLynx> night*
#802 [07:08] <Discovered> And what to do? :P
#803 [07:08] <Thrae> Discovered: Reboot?
#804 [07:08] <EvillLynx> Will try brb ;P
#805 [07:08] <Discovered> I'll re-start my PC
#806 [07:08] <Discovered> I don't really understand RAM anyway
#807 [07:09] <Thrae> Discovered: You run a program, it goes into RAM until it exits
#808 [07:09] <Discovered> rebooting
#809 [07:10] <Discovered> Will take a while to start up, got five monitors running
#810 [07:10] <Discovered> Give me 10 minutes :)
#811 [07:10] <devils> lol five monitors
#812 [07:10] <Thrae> bernard: One sec getting updated driver
#813 [07:10] <devils> really
#814 [07:10] <bernard> thrae ta
#815 [07:10] <Thrae> devils: I used to use 5 monitors. 2 broke, now I'm using 3
#816 [07:10] <Thrae> Going to repair one of them
#817 [07:10] <bernard> thrae i hope my 9 year old son appreciates this
#818 [07:10] <devils> lol i stopped at four
#819 [07:11] <devils> XD
#820 [07:11] <devils> figured why go insane
#821 [07:11] <devils> :P
#822 [07:11] <Thrae> The very broken one is 7"
#823 [07:11] <devils> bernard they will love you all the more when they come on and it is fixed. You will be super parent to them :P
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#825 [07:12] <bernard> devils oh yeah - I will have power!!
#826 [07:12] <devils> next time they don't want to do something
#827 [07:12] <devils> be like
#828 [07:12] <devils> you remember that time
#829 [07:12] <Thrae> bernard: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18228/a08/win7_64_1512754.exe
#830 [07:12] <devils> i spent forever fixing your minecraft
#831 [07:12] <Thrae> bernard: Usually it's the 9-year old son doing the fixing :D
#832 [07:12] <bernard> thrae thank you thank you!!!
#833 [07:13] <Thrae> bernard: Oh wait one sec that's for 64-bit
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#835 [07:13] <bernard> thrae devils will probably need further guidance going on past experience.......
#836 [07:13] <Thrae> bernard: Did DxDiag say you have Service Pack 2 for Vista?
#837 [07:14] <devils> bernard: lol what?
#838 [07:14] <bernard> uuuuum??
#839 [07:14] <Thrae> bernard: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18223/a08/win7_1512754.exe (32-bit driver)
#840 [07:14] <bernard> like not knowing to press paste on pastie.org
#841 [07:15] <Thrae> bernard: The paste you gave me cut-off before I could tell whether you had Service Pack 2 or not, so you may want to check Windows Update
#842 [07:15] <devils> o i thought you were talking to me as in thrae: devils will ....
#843 [07:16] <Thrae> devils: So with your slowdown still happening...are you doing Single Player?
#844 [07:16] <devils> yes
#845 [07:16] <Thrae> Try a new world
#846 [07:16] <devils> lol k
#847 [07:16] <devils> this one is just a starter anyways
#848 [07:16] <devils> you want me to use the virtual or my dl?
#849 [07:17] <Thrae> What>
#850 [07:17] <devils> the file you gave me
#851 [07:17] <devils> or the file i dled from the site
#852 [07:17] <Thrae> Yeah, use the batch file
#853 [07:17] <devils> k
#854 [07:17] <Thrae> The batch file calls the launcher, just with up to 2GB of memory allocated
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#856 [07:18] <devils> AH, that explains my drastic increase in memory
#857 [07:18] <Thrae> devils: It's allocated but not actually used until needed
#858 [07:19] <Thrae> Discovered: Same error?
#859 [07:20] <devils> ok with the new world it updated to the default high specs for everything and THAT pushed me down to 5-10 fps >_>
#860 [07:20] <Discovered> Wait a sec
#861 [07:20] <Discovered> My mate is sending me a new .bat that should work he says :)
#862 [07:21] <Thrae> devils: Hmm, what brand of laptop is this?
#863 [07:21] <bernard> thrae that was all of the dxdiag
#864 [07:21] <devils> hp pavilion
#865 [07:21] <Thrae> bernard: I know, and I said pastie.org cut it off...anyway it's a good idea to check Windows Update from time to time
#866 [07:22] <Thrae> devils: Model?
#867 [07:22] <devils> yeah was pulling it up as we spoke
#868 [07:22] <devils> hp pavilion dv7 notebook pc
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#870 [07:23] <Thrae> devils: And the number after dv7 ?
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#872 [07:24] <devils> yeah i am checking the dxdiag and the system properties
#873 [07:24] <devils> that is it
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#875 [07:24] <needhelp> Hi,i need help with Legal Minecraft
#876 [07:24] <Thrae> devils: Just flip the laptop over and read it off the bottom :)
#877 [07:24] <devils> herp de derrrp XD
#878 [07:24] <devils> sigh
#879 [07:25] <Thrae> needhelp: That's what we do here, help people with Minecraft. Please elaborate.
#880 [07:27] <bernard> thrae my computer didn't like the driver, thanks to you and devils for all your help
#881 [07:28] <Thrae> bernard: One sec
#882 [07:28] <devils> lol i am not doing much
#883 [07:28] <devils> and Thrae: it still just says notebook pc
#884 [07:28] <devils> I have the seriel and product number
#885 [07:28] <Thrae> devils: Yes, the product number is what I need
#886 [07:28] <Thrae> Like "dv7-1000"
#887 [07:29] <needhelp> Hello, I have got problem.I am pay Minecraft, I enter nick and password so I'm writing Cannot connect to minecraft.net.I Have got legal Minecraft.Please help
#888 [07:29] <devils> yeah that is exactly it. the product and model aren't like that in this case the product is LW17OUA#ABA
#889 [07:30] <bernard> thrae - that sounded sarcy, i mean i am really grateful!
#890 [07:30] <Thrae> bernard: Download http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18231/a08/win7_1512754.zip and follow the instructions on http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-022355.htm
#891 [07:30] <bernard> thrae - ta
#892 [07:31] <Thrae> devils: Odd, are you using a LCD monitor?
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#894 [07:32] <T900X4> hey
#895 [07:32] <Thrae> devils: Try following http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?tmp_renderType=findModel&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=c00033108&lc=en
#896 [07:32] <Thrae> T900X4: What can we do for you? Please be specific.
#897 [07:33] <T900X4> my minecraft acc got hacked ;( pw & email change .
#898 [07:33] <Discovered> Thrae where should the .bat link to?
#899 [07:33] <Discovered> Not to downloads map it seems
#900 [07:33] <Thrae> devils: I need the exact model number like dv7-1000
#901 [07:34] <T900X4> what can I do?
#902 [07:34] <Thrae> Discovered: You don't make a shortcut to the batch file, you place the batch file in the same location as Minecraft.exe
#903 [07:34] <Discovered> @ECHO OFF
#904 [07:34] <Discovered> "C:/Program Files (86)/Java/jre6/bin/javaw.exe" java -Xmx4096M -Xms6144M -jar "C:/Users/Gebruiker/Downloads/minecraft.exe"
#905 [07:34] <Thrae> Discovered: That batch file isn't going to work on your system. It's very wrong.
#906 [07:34] <devils> Thrae: yeah, i followed the site before this :P and it seems to double check my model number is under the batttery in this case
#907 [07:35] <devils> so brb as i have to remove battery
#908 [07:36] <Thrae> Discovered: 1) It's using 32-bit Java when it should be using 64-bit Java. 2) The Xmx and Xms numbers are switched. 3) You don't have 6GB of RAM free, you have 4GB *total*, so you'd need to allocate less than 4GB.
#909 [07:36] <Thrae> Discovered: Where is Minecraft.exe located on your computer? You can place it wherever you want.
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#911 [07:36] <T900X4> Thrae?
#912 [07:37] <Chris> wait, why are you starting an exe file with java? can you even do that?
#913 [07:37] <Thrae> T900X4: Go to http://www.minecraft.net/support , select "Account" then "Hacked", and follow the instructions. You'll need proof of payment. Good luck!
#914 [07:38] <Thrae> Chris: With Minecraft.exe you can.
#915 [07:38] <Thrae> It's just an EXE-encapsulated JAR file that launches Java.
#916 [07:38] <T900X4> ok ty
#917 [07:39] <T900X4> sry what is Receipt ID* ?
#918 [07:40] <Thrae> T900X4: From Mojang, when they emailed you confirmation of your Premium account status.
#919 [07:41] <T900X4> äähm also a number? ..
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#921 [07:42] <Thrae> T900X4: Also known as "Transaction ID"
#922 [07:43] <T900X4> aah ;O mojang send it to me via email? ;O
#923 [07:43] <Thrae> Yes
#924 [07:46] <T900X4> i dont know ... >.>
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#926 [07:47] <devils> ok back
#927 [07:47] <devils> Thrae: model is dv7-6195us
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#930 [07:49] <devils> its really quite in here now :(
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#932 [07:50] <Thrae> devils: Download and install these updates -- ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp54001-54500/sp54462.exe and ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp54001-54500/sp54471.exe
#933 [07:50] <Thrae> devils: We may have to go as far as updating your BIOS from http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?os=4063&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&sw_lang=&product=5141409#N384
#934 [07:51] <devils> ok, but what does the ftp ones do?
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#937 [07:51] <wikkit> whenever I try to log on through the website for the paid version, I get the little red x.
#938 [07:52] <Brascon> can some1 give me the link to 1.8.1 release? i lost the jar file :<
#939 [07:52] <Thrae> devils: Update for ATI and Intel graphics chipsets, respectively
#940 [07:52] <Thrae> Brascon: If you delete minecraft.jar from bin then the launcher will auto-download the 1.8.1 jar.
#941 [07:52] <Thrae> wikkit: "Little red x"? What do you mean? Is this a browser error?
#942 [07:53] <Brascon> aye, when i do that the launcher gets stuck at 90% saying downlouding done.. and sits there for 30 mins.. then i closed and retriedl.. and now am here
#943 [07:54] <Thrae> Brascon: OK, using Windows?
#944 [07:54] <Brascon> yes
#945 [07:54] <wikkit> I go to the main page, use my ID and p word to log in, then click on play minecraft beta: inbrowser, and I get the red x.
#946 [07:55] <Acid20> .
#947 [07:55] <Thrae> wikkit: You probably need to install Java. What's your operating system -- Windows, Mac, Linux?
#948 [07:55] <libraryaddict> !isdown test.mcbans.com:20023
#949 [07:55] <Thrae> Brascon: Disable your Anti-Virus and Internet Protection/Suite/Security software and try again
#950 [07:55] <wikkit> Windows. I just went to the java site and installed, but still the same issue...
#951 [07:56] <libraryaddict> !check test.mcbans.com:20023
#952 [07:56] <Thrae> libraryaddict: Isdown can't test ports, but AuBot can with !check
#953 [07:56] <Brascon> ok ill try ^^
#954 [07:56] <Chris> wikkit, name change, now.
#955 [07:56] <libraryaddict> orlly. It dont seem like much else AuBot!
#956 [07:56] * libraryaddict kicks it
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#957 [07:56] <Thrae> wikkit: OK, download both "Windows x86 Offline" and "Windows x64" from WugBot's link
#958 [07:56] <Thrae> :j
#959 [07:56] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#960 [07:57] <Chris> Wikkit. /nick <new name>
#961 [07:57] <Thrae> libraryaddict: That AuBot message means the port is open on the router but something is rejecting the request
#962 [07:57] <libraryaddict> ahh
#963 [07:58] <Thrae> libraryaddict: So either the port isn't forwarded properly, or a firewall on the server is blocking it, or the server isn't running
#964 [07:58] <libraryaddict> I got framed lolz
#965 [07:58] <libraryaddict> I never thought it would happen :\
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#967 [07:59] <Jorre> Hello!
#968 [07:59] <Chris> Wikkit. This is your final warning. Please change your IRC nick before you are nickserv ghosted again.
#969 [07:59] <Jorre> I just started playing and I really need some help, so I figured I'd try here!
#970 [08:00] <devils> is wikkit a registered name?
#971 [08:00] <Chris> yes, it is
#972 [08:00] <libraryaddict> apparently
#973 [08:00] <Chris> and I have the password
#974 [08:00] <devils> ah
#975 [08:01] <Chris> that's the second time today I had to ghost him... I really can't be bothered to set up nickserv to change nickname after 30 seconds if he doesn't identify...
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#977 [08:02] <Jorre> Is there any way to set yourself a new spawnpoing when you die?
#978 [08:02] <Jorre> point*
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#980 [08:03] <Jorre> Every time I die I spend at least 30 minutes finding my house back.
#981 [08:03] <devils> there was but it is a mod
#982 [08:03] <Brascon> use a bed Jorre
#983 [08:03] <mib_tkfb1w> I just tried downloading Windows x86 offline and windows X64 and I am still getting the red x on screen when I try to play...
#984 [08:03] <devils> i think jorre wants to actually set the exact place?
#985 [08:03] <Jorre> Well
#986 [08:04] <devils> bed will get you a random new spawn point
#987 [08:04] <devils> but ....... it is random lol
#988 [08:04] <Jorre> I just want to not lose my house constantly when I die :P
#989 [08:04] <Brascon> make a big tower lit with torches so u can see it from a distance :p
#990 [08:04] <devils> one sec
#991 [08:04] <devils> or make a path with torches
#992 [08:04] <devils> what i did
#993 [08:04] <Brascon> idd
#994 [08:04] <devils> if you don't want to mod
#995 [08:05] <Jorre> I liike the big tower with torches idea.
#996 [08:05] <Thrae> Chris: "wikkit" is a random Mibbit name.
#997 [08:05] <Chris> thrae didn't know that, I still have the password for nickserv though
#998 [08:05] <Thrae> Chris: He probably just doesn't understand nicknames in general.
#999 [08:06] <devils> yeah but when you are told to "/nick (blah)"
#1000 [08:06] <Chris> someone by the name of wikkit has purchased minecraft though
#1001 [08:06] <Jorre> Thanks for the tips
#1002 [08:06] <devils> i mean
#1003 [08:06] <devils> it isn't that hard
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#1005 [08:06] <Brascon> uhmz Thrae it still doesnt complete.. is it because i have no single minecraft.jar in my bin file? that the downloud takes long?
#1006 [08:06] <Thrae> Chris: We don't require Minecraft usernames in this channel. "Thrae" is not mine, for instance.
#1007 [08:07] <Chris> I know, chris isn't mine, that might just be why he was using the name is all i'm saying...
#1008 [08:07] <Thrae> I've seen lots of different "wikkit"s in the past, so it's probably just random
#1009 [08:07] <Thrae> Brascon: One sec
#1010 [08:08] <Chris> maybe
#1011 [08:08] <Chris> the IRC wikkit for esper is a bot for #bukkitwiki
#1012 [08:08] <Chris> I have no clue why it's not running, its not my bot I just have the password
#1013 [08:09] <Thrae> Brascon: Follow these instructions for getting into "Safe Mode with Networking" -- http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm
#1014 [08:09] <Brascon> k
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#1016 [08:09] <Wug> Chris: just keep it online
#1017 [08:09] <bstinson> I just tried downloading Windows x86 offline and windows X64 and I am still getting the red x on screen when I try to play...
#1018 [08:09] <Wug> if its online the nick cant be used
#1019 [08:10] <Thrae> Brascon: That's "Safe Mode with Networking" specifically. You can run Minecraft from within there and if it gets far enough to download Minecraft and then error about video card drivers / OpenGL then it's something to do with your background programs when booting normally.
#1020 [08:10] <Thrae> bstinson: Does http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp work?
#1021 [08:10] <Chris> wug, true, I could also set up nickserv to automatically change the nick if they don't identify quickly enough
#1022 [08:10] <Wug> then do that
#1023 [08:11] <Thrae> Chris: That's much nicer than killing random Mibbit users who don't know jack about nicknames
#1024 [08:11] <Wug> /ns set enforce
#1025 [08:11] <Chris> Thrae, this is the second time today, in this channel
#1026 [08:11] <Wug> its a random mibbit name
#1027 [08:11] <Wug> you should see how many times we see "wippler"
#1028 [08:11] <Thrae> Chris: We get a lot of mibbit users using the random mibbit names, even mib_blahblahblah
#1029 [08:12] <Chris> I don't use mibbit :P I don't really know how it works xD
#1030 [08:12] <Jorre> How do you guys make a floor for your house? I notice when I use slabs of any kind that objects I put on them float
#1031 [08:12] <Chris> Wikkit is supposed to run 24/7 but idk where it went
#1032 [08:12] <Thrae> Jorre: Well since the ground itself is just blocks....
#1033 [08:12] <devils> ll
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#1035 [08:13] <devils> jorre: are you still curious about the spawn mod?
#1036 [08:14] <Jorre> I'm first gonna try the torch tower and breadcrums ideas.
#1037 [08:14] <bstinson> checking
#1038 [08:15] <Jorre> So in a nutshell there are no specific floor tiles, I should just use complete blocks?
#1039 [08:15] <Thrae> Jorre: That's Minecraft -- use whatever looks best to you
#1040 [08:17] <devils> Jorre: kk but just in case here are the two best mods for it -- 1) http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/gen-sec-econ-tp-admn-essentials-v2-6-3-a-collection-of-useful-commands-and-features-1317.15312/
#1041 [08:17] <devils> 2) http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/120456-181-adventurecraft-animated-textures-r1089/
#1042 [08:17] <devils> Thrae: i swear its like this game just doesn't want to play in a decent mode
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#1044 [08:18] <devils> the second link you gave me for the basic graphics card doens't want to instal on my computer
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#1046 [08:19] <Chris> that's nickserv enforce set
#1047 [08:19] <Thrae> devils: Is there an error message?
#1048 [08:20] <Thrae> devils: And more like **your*** computer doesn't want to run the game in a decent mode ;)
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#1050 [08:20] <Jorre> Thanks for the advice so far :)
#1051 [08:21] <Thrae> devils: You might have to reboot between those two driver updates.
#1052 [08:21] <devils> says my computer doesn't have the requirements
#1053 [08:21] <devils> and yeah i saw for the radeon it wanted me to
#1054 [08:21] <devils> let me do that really quickly
#1055 [08:21] <devils> and fyi
#1056 [08:21] <devils> LIES
#1057 [08:21] <devils> my computer runs all things MUAHAHAHAHAHA
#1058 [08:21] <devils> .............except this >_>
#1059 [08:22] <Thrae> devils: Not many games use such an old version of OpenGL.
#1060 [08:23] <devils> lol yeah
#1061 [08:23] <devils> ok brb
#1062 [08:24] <devils> going to reboot for radeon
#1063 [08:24] <b0xxy> anyone know wat this error is
#1064 [08:24] <b0xxy> "CONSOLE: Attempted to place a tile entity (net.minecraft.server.TileEntityFurnace@3e16b7d6) at 13,12,11 (STONE) where there was no entity tile!"
#1065 [08:24] <Wug> b0xxy: you can ignore it
#1066 [08:24] <b0xxy> just spam console thats all
#1067 [08:25] <Wug> if you /saveall it *should* not do it anymore
#1068 [08:25] <Wug> after you reload the world
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#1070 [08:27] <b0xxy> so..
#1071 [08:27] <b0xxy> reboot serve
#1072 [08:27] <b0xxy> r
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#1077 [08:31] <devils101> Thrae: it seems to have helped a tad but not enough to be of any real significance
#1078 [08:31] <bstinson> I have tried the Java site and it appears I can not get Java to work, I tried all the troubleshooting.
#1079 [08:33] <devils101> and @ Thrae: sorry but I am going to have to call it a quits. It is getting late here.
#1080 [08:33] <devils101> So hopefully will pick this up later. We shall see. Thanks for everything up till now and sorry we couldn't finish it :(
#1081 [08:35] <Thrae> bstinson: So what happens when you go to http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp ? Does it give an error report?
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#1085 [08:37] <bstinson> I get a box with the red x within. Below it says if you do not see your machine listed, please check these configurations. I went through each one and all seems correct. A java search shows I have Java 6 installed...
#1086 [08:38] <Thrae> bstinson: Sounds like something on your computer is blocking Java or it's not loading properly. Try a different browser like Firefox -- http://www.getfirefox.com
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#1088 [08:39] <difabi> Hello everybody! A week ago I purchased the game... and I couldn't play 'cause java error... I have the last version of java, and tried in different computers.. some advice??? :_(
#1089 [08:39] <Thrae> difabi: Paste the entire error to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#1090 [08:39] <difabi> okp
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#1092 [08:47] <bstinson> that looks like it worked thanks guys!!!
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#1096 [08:57] <Jorre> This game reminds me of Lego, only better :P
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#1099 [09:01] <difabi> THrae: here is yhe link <script src="http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=h2LAVhug"></script>
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#1101 [09:02] <difabi> <script src="http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=h2LAVhug"></script>
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#1103 [09:05] <Thrae> difabi: Update your ATI video card drivers from www.amd.com
#1104 [09:06] <Jorre> Is it correct yiou don't find iron when you dig really really deep?
#1105 [09:07] <Thrae> Jorre: "Iron is a relatively common mineral. It shows up at elevations ranging from 0 (the bottom of the map) to 67 (2 blocks above sea level)"
#1106 [09:07] <Thrae> Jorre: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Iron_(Ore)
#1107 [09:07] <difabi> thanks! let's see
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#1110 [09:13] <Jorre> Ah, yes, the wiki. The wiki is nice but spoils a lot.
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#1114 [09:33] <difabi> Thrae: I'm trying. It doesn't work
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#1117 [09:39] <difabi> Tharae: Other link, d'nt know if is the same error: <script src="http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=WVjEJzMd"></script>
#1118 [09:40] <Thrae> difabi: Same error. What's your graphics card and what's your operating system?
#1119 [09:41] <Thrae> difabi: In the error report it shows "OS: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2", is this correct?
#1120 [09:42] <Thrae> And it appears this is an old Pentium 4 computer. I'm guessing it has a Radeon 9xxx series AGP card.
#1121 [09:50] <difabi> yeah it's a old everything windows xp32bit
#1122 [09:50] <Thrae> ??> difabi mac/10.5.8
#1123 [09:50] <VoxelHead> difabi: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#1124 [09:50] <VoxelHead> difabi: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#1125 [09:51] <Thrae> difabi: Basically there's a bug with the graphics card drivers for the ATI 9xxx chipset on Windows fully supporting OpenGL. You can try 1.9 pre-release or try the mod VoxelHead just linked you.
#1126 [09:52] <Thrae> difabi: ATI stopped making updates for your graphics card back in 2004.
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#1128 [09:52] <difabi> Thrae: nvidia... right now I'm from my mac... but I'm trying to install on my son's computer (pc)
#1129 [09:53] <difabi> okp... let me try on this one
#1130 [09:53] <Thrae> difabi: Also, go to Windows Update and get all the latest updates. I seem to see this a lot when Java is reporting you only have Service Pack 2 when you should have at least Service Pack 3, released like 7 years ago
#1131 [09:54] <Thrae> difabi: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com for your XP computer
#1132 [09:55] <difabi> Thrae: Thanks!!! I
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#1134 [10:12] <Discovered> oh come onnnnn
#1135 [10:13] <Discovered> I followed a chicken for two hours straight and got 9 eggs, none of them gave me chicken. QQ
#1136 [10:16] <Jorre> Can't you just run around and find more randomly laying around?
#1137 [10:17] <Nam-Ereh-Won> anyone else experienceing an issue where an input will stick and you keep moving or jumping until you hit the key again?
#1138 [10:17] <Discovered> Yes but I've been searching for chickens for the full day yesterday
#1139 [10:17] <Discovered> So today I found one and trapped it into a one by one cage with me
#1140 [10:17] <Discovered> so it couldn't move and I went to watch TV
#1141 [10:18] <Discovered> Got 9 eggs from him. None of them gave me chickens in my farm :(
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#1145 [10:34] <Sardonicus> Cheerio!
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#1150 [10:43] <fatfrogg> does anyone have to problem where minecraft wont open at all?
#1151 [10:44] <Jorre> Hm, do all ores share the same spawnpoints?
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#1153 [10:45] <GreyVulpine> Jorre - Not all
#1154 [10:46] <GreyVulpine> fatfrogg - What OS?
#1155 [10:46] <fatfrogg> whats and OS
#1156 [10:46] <fatfrogg> an*
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#1158 [10:48] <mib_kaeqk6> hallo, kann mir einer helfen? mein minecraft startet nicht
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#1160 [10:50] <mib_kaeqk6> alles runtergeladen, bezahlt, macht aber beim starten schwierigkeiten, will starten, verschwindet dann aber
#1161 [10:51] <Jorre> But there is variation in spawn depth right?
#1162 [10:51] <mib_kaeqk6> java auf neuesten stand
#1163 [10:51] <Jorre> Just because Iron ore can spawn everywhere it spawns more in the middle layers?
#1164 [10:51] <Jorre> At least, that's what I'm seeing.
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#1167 [10:53] <fatfrogg> my OS is microsoft windows
#1168 [10:53] <mib_kaeqk6> my os ist micr. windows xp
#1169 [10:54] <fatfrogg> moi aussi
#1170 [10:55] <mib_kaeqk6> i make the same by my son and minecraft is running, but on this pc i create a new account and it does´nt work?
#1171 [10:56] <fatfrogg> does the game open at all
#1172 [10:56] <GreyVulpine> fatfrogg - How much RAM do you have?
#1173 [10:56] <mib_kaeqk6> i don´t know what you mean?
#1174 [10:56] <mib_kaeqk6> mom
#1175 [10:56] <fatfrogg> 2 GB
#1176 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_kaeqk6 - I don't understand what you're saying
#1177 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> fatfrogg - Do you have java installed?
#1178 [10:57] <fatfrogg> yes
#1179 [10:57] <mib_kaeqk6> 1 GB
#1180 [10:57] <mib_kaeqk6> yes
#1181 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> fatfrogg - Try launching minecraft with these instructions: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#1182 [10:57] <fatfrogg> thank you
#1183 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_kaeqk6 - That's not enough RAM to run minecraft
#1184 [10:58] <GreyVulpine> mib_kaeqk6 - Minecraft requires at least 1 gig of RAM, free
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#1186 [10:59] <whidgle> where is the mod help?
#1187 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft
#1188 [11:00] <whidgle> thank u
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#1190 [11:03] <mib_kaeqk6> ok, thank you, so i have to bye more ram--lol
#1191 [11:06] <fatfrogg> i followed the instructions, but the batch file will not open either
#1192 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> fatfrogg - Tell me exactly what you did
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#1194 [11:08] <joe> getting "out of memory" error runnig 1.9 3
#1195 [11:09] <fatfrogg> download the jar file, put in folder, opened a text document and put in the two lines and changed the file to all files and ended name with .bat, then i ran it but it didnt open
#1196 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a 64 bit OS joe?
#1197 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> fatfrogg - Do you get the command prompt?
#1198 [11:09] <joe> no
#1199 [11:09] <fatfrogg> yes
#1200 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> joe - Try a batch file, limits the RAM usage: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#1201 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> fatfrogg - Does the cmd prompt say anything?
#1202 [11:10] <fatfrogg> press any key to continue
#1203 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> fatfrogg - Anything before that?
#1204 [11:11] <fatfrogg> yes: 'java is not recongized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file
#1205 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hah
#1206 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> fatfrogg - You said you had java installed on winxp, right?
#1207 [11:11] <fatfrogg> win7
#1208 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> 32 or 64 bit?
#1209 [11:12] <fatfrogg> 64
#1210 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Alright, could you go back to the .bat file, right click on it, and hit "edit"
#1211 [11:12] <fatfrogg> ok
#1212 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> The first line, where it said "java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#1213 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> change to:
#1214 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1215 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> include the quotes
#1216 [11:13] <GreyVulpine> Save it, run it again
#1217 [11:15] <fatfrogg> it say: error occured during initialization of VM
#1218 [11:15] <GreyVulpine> What else?
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#1221 [11:16] <joe> GrayVulpine - reading the cmd i got "could not find the main class: net.minecraft.LauncherFrame. program will exit"
#1222 [11:16] <fatfrogg> java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/object
#1223 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> joe - You didn't download the minecraft.jar, or you didn't place the .bat file in the same place as the .jar
#1224 [11:17] <joe> GreyVulpine gimme a sec
#1225 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> fatfrogg - Hmm, could you right click on the cmd prompt window, choose "mark", click and drag a box around the text, and right click again
#1226 [11:18] <GreyVulpine> Then, go to pastebin.com, right click on the text box there, paste it, submit it, and give us the URL
#1227 [11:19] <fatfrogg> http://pastebin.com/thMf6ZLK
#1228 [11:20] <joe> GreyVulpine - there was no .jar at the link on pastebin so i coppied and pasted my current minecraft.jar and i got that error
#1229 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> joe - Wrong minecraft.jar, you don't use the .jar from /.minecraft/bin
#1230 [11:20] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft.jar that you need to download is found at minecraft.net/download, which is the launcher
#1231 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> fatfrogg - Gotta say it's your java. Could you completely uninstall java from your system, and reinstall 64 bit java from:
#1232 [11:21] <joe> GreyVulpine - found it
#1233 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> ??> fatfrogg java
#1234 [11:21] <VoxelHead> fatfrogg: (java) Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#1235 [11:21] <VoxelHead> fatfrogg: (java) Other versions of java: Version 6: ?? getjre/6u27, ?? getjdk/6u27 | Version 7: ?? getjre/7u1, ?? getjdk/7u1
#1236 [11:21] <joe> GreyVulpine - ran it minecraft opened
#1237 [11:21] <GreyVulpine> joe - Okay, are you able to log in?
#1238 [11:22] <fatfrogg> ok
#1239 [11:22] <joe> GreyVulpine - yes
#1240 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> Could you play it, see if you get that error
#1241 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> The .bat file limits RAM usage to 256 megs of RAM, you can tweak it to your needs
#1242 [11:23] <joe> GreyVulpine - so if this fixes it i will have to use this bat to run minecraft?
#1243 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> Yes. Minecraft normally launches with -Xms512M -Xmx1024M, or starts with 512 megs of RAM allocated, and can grow to 1 gig.
#1244 [11:24] <GreyVulpine> That batch file there uses -Xms256M -Xmx256M
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#1247 [11:25] <joe> GreyVulpine - would that cause performance issues
#1248 [11:25] <IronMiner> I've been having an issue with Minecraft Classic
#1249 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> Definitely, it's a bit anemic, but it'll run minecraft on almost any system
#1250 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> (of the past decade)
#1251 [11:25] <IronMiner> It loaded everything correctly, but gives me a "Pixel format not accelerated" error.
#1252 [11:25] <GreyVulpine> IronMiner - OS?
#1253 [11:26] <IronMiner> Windows XP
#1254 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> IronMiner - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#1255 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> ??> IronMiner win/dxdiag
#1256 [11:26] <VoxelHead> IronMiner: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1257 [11:26] <VoxelHead> IronMiner: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1258 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> IronMiner - Usually points to either your video card drivers not being up to date, or your system's too old.
#1259 [11:27] <Jorre> My game keeps stopping because it says it's not getting enough memory.
#1260 [11:27] <GreyVulpine> Jorre - Minecraft says it doesn't get enough RAM?
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#1262 [11:28] <Jorre> Yeah, and something about Java Virtual Machine perhapsn not getting enough memory.
#1263 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> Jorre - How much RAM do you have on the system? What OS are you on?
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#1265 [11:28] <Jorre> Windows 7 64bit with 8gb memory.
#1266 [11:29] <Jorre> Which is enought I assume :P
#1267 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Jorre - Do you have 64 bit java installed on the system?
#1268 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Should be
#1269 [11:29] <IronMiner> http://pastebin.com/gs3wVqF5
#1270 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Plenty of people have reported problems of being out of memory when using 32 bit java, and reporting better performance with 64 bit java
#1271 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Yikes IronMiner. I used to have that system, like 12 years ago..
#1272 [11:30] <IronMiner> My grandfather didn't get anything other than this one for his computers...
#1273 [11:30] <IronMiner> The one I usually use runs Windows Vista.
#1274 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> I.. might be able to find some video drivers for that.. but I doubt it.
#1275 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> That video card is very very ancient
#1276 [11:31] <IronMiner> My grandfather is... not a big money spender. He had a friend work on it.
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#1278 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> No.. I can't even find those drivers on nvidia's site anymore. I had that same video card back in '99-'00-ish
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#1280 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, but I don't think you'll be able to run minecraft on that system
#1281 [11:33] <IronMiner> My computer that runs Vista might run Minecraft Classic, but I wasn't home last night to try it.
#1282 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> I'm pretty sure it will
#1283 [11:34] <IronMiner> Well... Thanks for the help.
#1284 [11:35] <fatfrogg> GreyVulpine, if i had a million dollars, i might give it to you
#1285 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> fatfrogg - Hah, appreciate it.
#1286 [11:35] <Sardonicus> I'd spend it for research on cancer of course...
#1287 [11:35] <fatfrogg> thank you and goodbye
#1288 [11:35] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1288 [11:36] * GreyVulpine heads off for a bit
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#1290 [11:50] <Blaster> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/718485-friend-has-crashing-problems/ Can anyone help with this?
#1291 [11:51] <Blaster> Its a 1.8 and 1.9pre4 issue
#1292 [11:51] <Blaster> (Problem started in 1.8)
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#1295 [12:03] <RobinJ24> The king has arrived.
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#1302 [12:09] <mib_t9s2yz> hello ?
#1303 [12:10] <Ryladine> Yes Mib/
#1304 [12:10] <Ryladine> ?
#1305 [12:10] <mib_t9s2yz> can i get some help
#1306 [12:10] <Ryladine> ?? ask
#1307 [12:10] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1308 [12:10] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1309 [12:10] <mib_t9s2yz> regarding my minecrafy
#1310 [12:11] <mib_t9s2yz> my minecraft will not work it just wont let me logg in and says try again or play offline but when i click on ether two it will not let me play i have purchest this game and i am not satisfied with this
#1311 [12:12] <Ryladine> Did you recently buy it?
#1312 [12:12] <mib_t9s2yz> about 2 weeks ago
#1313 [12:12] <mib_t9s2yz> and i could never play since
#1314 [12:13] <Ryladine> When you try to login, does it say could not connect to minecraft.net?
#1315 [12:13] <mib_t9s2yz> yes
#1316 [12:13] <mib_t9s2yz> and when i click play offline it closes the window
#1317 [12:14] <mib_t9s2yz> instantly
#1318 [12:14] <Ryladine> Hmm
#1319 [12:14] <Ryladine> Are you on a MAC?
#1320 [12:14] <mib_t9s2yz> nope windows :)
#1321 [12:14] <Ryladine> Does it work from the browser?
#1322 [12:15] <mib_t9s2yz> not now s
#1323 [12:15] <Ryladine> Alright, Do you know what version of java you are running?
#1324 [12:15] <mib_t9s2yz> emm
#1325 [12:15] <mib_t9s2yz> 1 sec
#1326 [12:15] <Ryladine> ?? java/version
#1327 [12:15] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1328 [12:15] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1329 [12:16] <mib_t9s2yz> java.exe ?
#1330 [12:16] <Ryladine> Go to the site, it will tell you.
#1331 [12:16] <mib_t9s2yz> ok
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#1333 [12:17] <mib_xaepmt> I bought the game yesterday, I did not get an email, and I can not play it.
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#1335 [12:17] <mib_t9s2yz> it now says plugin not installed
#1336 [12:18] <Ryladine> mib_xaepmt: Where did you buy it?
#1337 [12:18] <mib_t9s2yz> on the website
#1338 [12:18] <dr_bibble> out of memory error, ideas?
#1339 [12:18] <Ryladine> mib_t9s2yz: Download and isntall java 6.
#1340 [12:18] <mib_xaepmt> on the site
#1341 [12:18] <Ryladine> mib_xaepmt: Which website?
#1342 [12:18] <mib_t9s2yz> minecraft.net
#1343 [12:18] <Ryladine> dr_bibble: How much RAM do your system have?
#1344 [12:18] <mib_t9s2yz> the real one
#1345 [12:18] <mib_xaepmt> minecraft.net
#1346 [12:18] <Ryladine> mib, that was to a different mib.
#1347 [12:18] <Ryladine> Guest's Mib's as well as anyone else with a generic program generated nickname! Please use the /nick YOURNICKNAMEHERE command to set a name that we can all type/remember more easilly, it will help not only the volunteer's to identify you, but also get you faster responses.
#1348 [12:18] <mib_t9s2yz> its a compac so prob 3 or 4
#1349 [12:19] <dr_bibble> 1Gb
#1350 [12:19] <Ryladine> dr_bibble: Thats an excessively low ammount of RAM to run minecraft on, theres nothing we can do.
#1351 [12:19] <dr_bibble> ok cheers
#1352 [12:19] <Ryladine> mib_t9s2yz: Download and install java 6.
#1353 [12:20] <mib_t9s2yz> well it works on my laptop
#1354 [12:20] <mib_t9s2yz> and thats 4
#1355 [12:20] <Ryladine> .....
#1356 [12:20] <mib_xaepmt> what about my problem
#1357 [12:20] <Ryladine> mib_t9s2yz: Follow my isntructions or I cannot help you.
#1358 [12:20] <mib_t9s2yz> hello ?
#1359 [12:20] <mib_xaepmt> I bought the game yesterday, no email
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#1361 [12:20] <Ryladine> mib_xaepmt: I'm afraid there is not much we can do for account problems, try ensuring the money was taken from your bank account.
#1362 [12:21] <Ryladine> mib_t9s2yz: I have told you what to do three times. Follow my instructions or I will not assist you.
#1363 [12:21] <mib_t9s2yz> me ?
#1364 [12:21] <Ryladine> Yes.
#1365 [12:21] <Ryladine> mib_t9s2yz: See your name infront of my message? That means I'm talking to YOU
#1366 [12:22] <mib_t9s2yz> you just told me to go on a website and find out my java type
#1367 [12:22] <Ryladine> No
#1368 [12:22] <mib_t9s2yz> it says no plugin
#1369 [12:22] <mib_t9s2yz> yes
#1370 [12:22] <Ryladine> You have ignored all three times I told you to go get java 6.
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#1372 [12:23] <mib_t9s2yz> ok thanks for your help and theres no nees to be a fuckface this is your job
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#1374 [12:23] <Ryladine> Noob.
#1375 [12:24] <wippler> Where is my email, i bought the game yesterday
#1376 [12:24] <Ryladine> Did you ensure you used the correct email adress?
#1377 [12:24] <wippler> yes
#1378 [12:25] <Ryladine> You should check your bulk/spam folders, other than that I'm afraid theres nothing we can do for you, besides telling you to attempt to email mojang.
#1379 [12:26] <wippler> and how would I do that
#1380 [12:26] <RobinJ24> Lol "this is your job"
#1381 [12:26] <Ryladine> Which one?
#1382 [12:26] <Ryladine> Yeah :)
#1383 [12:26] <wippler> email mojang
#1384 [12:26] <RobinJ24> They're not paying you to be rude, Ryladine
#1385 [12:27] <Ryladine> Hmm... I'm afraid I don't remember the email, wait until w'ug gets back, he should be able to tell you.
#1386 [12:27] <Ryladine> :( I wasn't being rude, he was the one ignoring my instructions lol
#1387 [12:27] <Chris> I'm with ryladine on this one
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#1390 [12:28] <Ryladine> lol
#1391 [12:28] <Ryladine> Everyone is with ryladine on everything, because ryladine is awsome :)
#1392 [12:28] <Chris> I would have acted more agro faster though xD had some person come on another support channel and wouldn't be patient, ended up in a ban
#1393 [12:29] <Ryladine> lol, I'm a fairly nice person, just don't ignore me when I'm trying to help you. It's your own fault if I decide your not worth my time.
#1394 [12:29] <Chris> ??< dont/bother
#1395 [12:29] <Chris> ?? dont/bother
#1396 [12:29] <VoxelHead> dont/bother: If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
#1397 [12:30] <Chris> is the coomand you're looking for xD
#1398 [12:30] <Ryladine> lol
#1399 [12:30] <Ryladine> Hmm what was...
#1400 [12:30] <Ryladine> ??< dont/pebcak
#1401 [12:30] <Chris> pebcak? wtf
#1402 [12:30] <Ryladine> I prefer that one. :)
#1403 [12:30] <Chris> ??< dont/pebca
#1404 [12:30] <Chris> ??< dont/pebcak
#1405 [12:30] <Chris> I keep throwing in the ' in don't xD
#1406 [12:30] <Ryladine> lol
#1407 [12:31] <Ryladine> Anyone waiting for help?
#1408 [12:31] <Ryladine> Speak up now, I'm about to head off for lunch.
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#1410 [12:31] <Ryladine> Lol. And a mub joins!
#1411 [12:31] <Chris> I don't help in this channel, I just idle xD
#1412 [12:31] <Ryladine> mib*
#1413 [12:31] <Chris> lol
#1414 [12:31] <Chris> I usually do my own research and try not to waste peoples time
#1415 [12:32] <Chris> haha ryla, you were so excited xD
#1416 [12:32] <Ryladine> We need a script that auto changes all names that start with "mib_" to "I R Nubkake, kant use prooper IRC klient" XD
#1417 [12:32] <Chris> bahahaha
#1418 [12:32] <Chris> just nickserv register all of the mib ids and auto-ghost them when they use one
#1419 [12:33] <Chris> :P
#1420 [12:33] <Ryladine> lol, that would be an extensively boring, tedius job.
#1421 [12:33] <Chris> there's a channel mode that filters mibs.. not sure if its on esper though
#1422 [12:33] <Ryladine> Volxelhead! Go do it!
#1423 [12:33] <Chris> ryla, thats why they invented irc bots
#1424 [12:33] <Chris> hahaha
#1425 [12:33] <wippler> Where is my email, bought the gmail yesterday
#1426 [12:33] <Chris> check your spam
#1427 [12:33] <Ryladine> Nah, Effnet banned mibs :(
#1428 [12:33] <wippler> game, not gmail
#1429 [12:33] <Ryladine> :)*
#1430 [12:34] <Chris> so did freenode, but there's a channel mode that you can set to block out mibs
#1431 [12:34] <username> Does anyone know how to fix the crash issues im having by chance minecraft hangs up about every 5 min for 10-20 sec. sometimes crashes
#1432 [12:34] <Chris> I think its +m or something -researches-
#1433 [12:34] <Ryladine> Wippler, I told you. You will likely need to email mojang if the payment went through. Wait for someone that can remember the email to get on to answer you.
#1434 [12:34] <wippler> I did check my spam
#1435 [12:35] <Ryladine> username: Are any logs being generated?
#1436 [12:35] <username> no note that iv noticed
#1437 [12:35] <Chris> username, any hs_err_pids on your desktop?
#1438 [12:35] <Ryladine> username: Can you check again please? They will be where the .exe is, and named something like HS_err_pid
#1439 [12:35] <wippler> what is the email\
#1440 [12:36] <Chris> ryla, I tend to find them on my desktop
#1441 [12:36] <wippler> to mojang
#1442 [12:36] <Chris> www.minecraft.com/support
#1443 [12:36] <Ryladine> Lol I can never find the email in that chris
#1444 [12:36] <Chris> ryla, I've never been there xD
#1445 [12:36] <Chris> better yet, that url just 404d
#1446 [12:37] <Chris> its minecraft.net
#1447 [12:37] <Ryladine> IT works
#1448 [12:37] <username> nothing like that on desktop
#1449 [12:37] <Ryladine> lol
#1450 [12:37] <wippler> the email is what
#1451 [12:37] <Ryladine> username: Hmm Is it giving you any kind of error message before it crashes?
#1452 [12:37] <Chris> wippler, minecraft.net/support
#1453 [12:38] <username> no just give me a minecraft.exe has stopped responding or somthing binery has stoped responding
#1454 [12:38] * guest-0-90578 [guest-0-90578@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1455 [12:38] <guest-0-90578> h
#1456 [12:38] <guest-0-90578> hi
#1457 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Completely uninstall and reinstall java
#1458 [12:38] <Chris> hello
#1459 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> make sure you're using 64 bit java, if you have a 64 bit OS username.
#1460 [12:39] <guest-0-90578> is there any possibility that sirvival mode works on openjdk?
#1461 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-19967 - We don't recommend using OpenJDK
#1462 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> Has been known to cause problems
#1463 [12:39] <Chris> guest, yes it does though
#1464 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> openJDK does work for many people
#1465 [12:39] <Chris> Ryla, enjoy your lunch xD
#1466 [12:39] <Ryladine> o.o grey comes in and saves the day while I'm looking at the other monitor!
#1467 [12:39] <guest-0-90578> ah ok, how to run with oracle jre? I'm not fairly familiar with linux, I've linux mint
#1468 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-19967 - What distro of *nix?
#1469 [12:40] <Chris> I used openjdk, worked fine, removed it and installed oracle, broke epically
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#1471 [12:40] <guest-0-90578> if I type java -version I get openjdk 1.6.0.22
#1472 [12:40] <guest-0-90578> I added executable bit for minecraft.jar
#1473 [12:41] <guest-0-90578> was it the right way?
#1474 [12:41] <Chris> Uh, wut?
#1475 [12:41] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1476 [12:41] <Chris> guest, on linux you can't start it with an exe
#1477 [12:41] <Chris> you need to run it via terminal or an sh script
#1478 [12:41] <Sardonicus> Um Grim_Reaper?
#1479 [12:41] <Grim_Reaper> Hi Sardonicus
#1480 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-19967 - Do you have sun java installed on that?
#1481 [12:42] <Sardonicus> Are you using IceChat too?
#1482 [12:42] <guest-0-90578> java minecraft.jar?
#1483 [12:42] <Chris> hang on... lemme find it... its longer than that
#1484 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1485 [12:42] <guest-0-90578> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1486 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1487 [12:42] <Grim_Reaper> No Sardonicus I use mIRC :3
#1488 [12:42] <Sardonicus> I'm wondering how to stop the icon blinking when the window is minimized....
#1489 [12:42] <guest-0-90578> that quits with error log
#1490 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> make sure it's minecraft.jar, instead of Minecraft.jar
#1491 [12:42] <Sardonicus> it's quite annoying
#1492 [12:42] <Chris> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1493 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> make sure it's minecraft.jar, instead of Minecraft.jar
#1494 [12:43] <Chris> Grey, doesn't minecraft.jar come in caps now?
#1495 [12:43] <guest-0-90578> I know I corrected the captial letter
#1496 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so
#1497 [12:43] <Chris> and if you feel really lazy guest, you can type "jar minecraft.jar"
#1498 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Nope, still lowercase m from the website
#1499 [12:43] <Chris> didn't know that :P
#1500 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't recommend it
#1501 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't launch minecraft with enough heap
#1502 [12:43] <Chris> it'll be really slow :P
#1503 [12:44] <Chris> make an sh script and launch it through that like i do
#1504 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-19967 - What is the error you're getting? Could you pastebin.com it?
#1505 [12:44] <Chris> grey he's just trying to work out how to get started
#1506 [12:44] <guest-0-90578> Failed to open device (/dev/input/event4): Failed to open device /dev/input/event4 (13)
#1507 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> That should be the right way, I'm just wonderin.... ah
#1508 [12:44] <Chris> ah, ignore that guest
#1509 [12:45] <Chris> unless something breaks
#1510 [12:45] <Chris> I get that too
#1511 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> 20 bucks says it's actually fglrx
#1512 [12:45] <guest-0-90578> minecraft start but while generating survival mod it quits in the middle
#1513 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-19967 - Could you pastebin.com the entire error? Give us the URL to it?
#1514 [12:45] <Chris> guest, try running the java command with sudo at the start
#1515 [12:45] <Chris> "sudo java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#1516 [12:46] <guest-0-90578> ok that's an option, I give it a try :)
#1517 [12:46] <Chris> or you can follow grey, I don't really mind :P
#1518 [12:46] <Chris> guest then type your computer password when it asks
#1519 [12:47] <guest-0-90578> the same effect
#1520 [12:47] <Chris> okay, you'll have to pastebin your error then
#1521 [12:48] <guest-0-90578> ok, just a minute
#1522 [12:49] <guest-0-90578> http://pastebin.com/h1AYJ0xZ
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#1524 [12:49] <guest-0-90578> I think something with the audio driver
#1525 [12:50] <Chris> I get that error too, if anyone finds a fix, pls lemme know :-)
#1526 [12:50] <guest-0-90578> :D
#1527 [12:50] <Chris> I don't think its an audio problem
#1528 [12:50] <GreyVulpine> Chris - Using an ATI card perhaps?
#1529 [12:51] <guest-0-90578> yes, me too
#1530 [12:51] <Chris> ATI CPU OR graphics
#1531 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> It's a VERY common issue with fglrx
#1532 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> With no fix, in the year that I've been here
#1533 [12:51] <Chris> ah crap that was gunna be what I was gunna ask
#1534 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> With guest-0-90578's error, I'm positive it's fglrx
#1535 [12:52] <Chris> I have (same?) very similar error on my other computer, i'd get you the stack but i dun wanna get up xD
#1536 [12:52] <guest-0-90578> :), what's the next step?
#1537 [12:52] <Chris> put minecraft on an infinite loop, get some patience, go! xD
#1538 [12:52] <Chris> thats what I do
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#1541 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> Basically have a few options at this point. Get a new linux distro, switch to Windows/Mac, find a different proprietary driver for your ATI Card, or use another video card
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#1543 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> None of which, I know is optimal
#1544 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> But there's really nothing you can do with your current situation
#1545 [12:54] <Chris> My computer won't run windows any more :-(
#1546 [12:54] <RobinJ24> same
#1547 [12:55] <guest-0-90578> virtual machine with windows?
#1548 [12:56] <Chris> I guess that might work
#1549 [12:56] <guest-0-90578> let me try that :)
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#1552 [13:02] <seang96> hey does anyone need help?
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#1554 [13:03] <ledfall> How do i start my 1.9 server with more RAM ive never had this problem before running a server with my friends
#1555 [13:03] <seang96> create a bat file (your prolly running windows) and make -Xmx ___M or -Xmx__G
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#1559 [13:06] <ledfall> How would i do that
#1560 [13:06] <Chris> led what do you use to start it
#1561 [13:06] <ledfall> my server?
#1562 [13:06] <Chris> yes
#1563 [13:06] <Chris> the command
#1564 [13:06] <mib_0megn9> my minecraft won't work for some reason
#1565 [13:07] <ledfall> I just downloaded the 1.9 4 from the forums and i all i do is right click and run
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#1567 [13:09] <pat> Hello can anyone help me on a sound problem?
#1568 [13:10] <pat> ?
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#1572 [13:11] <pat> ok i installed minecraft and now the sound is not working any ideas anyone?
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#1576 [13:17] <Wipp> Test
#1577 [13:17] <SweCrow> works
#1578 [13:17] <Wipp> cool
#1579 [13:18] <Wipp> how do you get the 1.9 version?
#1580 [13:18] <Chris> look in the topic wipp
#1581 [13:18] <Chris> type /topic
#1582 [13:19] <Wipp> All it says is its released
#1583 [13:20] <Wipp> I have the premium account
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#1585 [13:21] <Chris> must be thinking of the wrong channel xD sorry
#1586 [13:21] <Wipp> no worrys
#1587 [13:21] <Chris> 1.9 Pre-Release 4 is out (http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre4/minecraft.jar); bugs are to be expected, use at own risk.
#1588 [13:21] <Wipp> gotcha
#1589 [13:21] <WarpZone> Does anybody know of a good channel for minecraft mod development?
#1590 [13:22] <Wipp> Is it easy to install mods?
#1591 [13:23] <WarpZone> Actually that's why I want to talk to the people who know more about making them.
#1592 [13:23] <Wipp> ya, I wouldn't mind installing a few
#1593 [13:23] <WarpZone> It's a pain to install mods and almost impossible to uninstall them unless you delete your minecraft.jar file and download a fresh one.
#1594 [13:24] <WarpZone> One particular mod, ModLoader, works around this issue. You install Modloader once, then put your zipped mods in a special folder. Uninstalling these mods is as easy as moving the zip file out of the /mods/ directory.
#1595 [13:24] <WarpZone> But I want to run some simple mods that don't currently work with ModLoader.
#1596 [13:25] <WarpZone> (Friendly Creeper, Endermen Don't Pick Up Blocks, No Void Fog.)
#1597 [13:25] <Wipp> Will Rei's minmap work with it?
#1598 [13:25] <Wipp> And is it easy to install?
#1599 [13:25] <WarpZone> So I want to ask if it's possible to convert these to work with ModLoader.
#1600 [13:25] <WarpZone> I have no idea.
#1601 [13:26] <WarpZone> You should google ModLoader and find the complete installation instructions.
#1602 [13:26] <WarpZone> It's a pain in the butt the first time you do it.
#1603 [13:26] <Wipp> huh
#1604 [13:26] <Wipp> ok thansk for the info
#1605 [13:27] <WarpZone> You have to read every instruction carefully, and which set of instructions you follow depends on your operating system, because different versions of windows put the files in different places.
#1606 [13:27] <WarpZone> Also, beware, if you uninstall a mod, and then load a world, it will break EVERYTHING.
#1607 [13:27] <WarpZone> Because the world contains data created by the mod, which vanilla minecraft doesn't know how to read.
#1608 [13:28] <Glycan> lpart
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#1610 [13:28] <Wipp> so you would have to uninstall and re?
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#1612 [13:30] <WarpZone> The thing is, minecraft constantly saves your game. If you dig a block, that bit gets set in the world file on your hard drive. So if you make a huge set of machines using IndustrialCraft, for example, and then load your world using an un-modded minecraft, not only will your machinery turn into air, but that change will get instantly saved to the world file on your hard drive. There's no way to undo that. So if you're u
#1613 [13:30] <WarpZone> you should make backups of your worlds. (Which is another google search and long-winded tutorial to follow.)
#1614 [13:30] <Matthew> Anyone know why I am banned from mcchatter when I haven't been on that channel?
#1615 [13:30] <WarpZone> Maybe it's whitelist only?
#1616 [13:30] <Matthew> hm... It is off topic channel
#1617 [13:30] <Matthew> Not whitelist
#1618 [13:31] <WarpZone> That or it could be an IP ban. Basically your ISP assigned you a random IP address which someone else used and got banned. Try restarting your router.
#1619 [13:31] <Matthew> OK Thanks, I will see if that works
#1620 [13:31] <WarpZone> If that doesn't help I'm out of ideas.
#1621 [13:31] <WarpZone> Good luck.
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#1623 [13:34] <Matthew> Didn't work, but thanks anyway
#1624 [13:35] <Matthew> My sister may have just gotten my ip banned
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#1626 [13:37] <guest-0-18360> Hello, I've a question about appointing people as an Operator on my server, when ever I typ a name in the op.txt save it and typ op <name> in my MC server nothing happens... How can I fix this?
#1627 [13:38] <guest-0-18360> Hello?
#1628 [13:39] <AFK|Matthew> Hi
#1629 [13:40] <Matthew> I would just run the server
#1630 [13:40] <Matthew> and in the console type
#1631 [13:40] <Matthew> op [name here]
#1632 [13:40] <Chris> yep
#1633 [13:40] <Matthew> This should op them
#1634 [13:40] <Chris> oh sorry that looked like a question :/
#1635 [13:41] * Chris facepalms over himself
#1635 [13:41] <Matthew> lol
#1636 [13:41] <Chris> damn i become a bit of an idiot at 4:30am xD
#1637 [13:41] <Matthew> lol
#1638 [13:42] <Matthew> guest-0-18360 I would try to have that username just try op commands. If that doesn't work, edit the op.txt file and Just have the name of the username
#1639 [13:43] <Matthew> Make sure the case is correct
#1640 [13:43] <Matthew> if that doesn't work, type in console like I said.
#1641 [13:43] <Matthew> If that doesn't work, re-download the server
#1642 [13:45] <guest-0-18360> Are Capital letters needed=
#1643 [13:46] <Matthew> I don't know, but it couldn't hurt to try
#1644 [13:46] <guest-0-18360> I´ll check now
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#1646 [13:48] <guest-0-18360> Thank you! it works now!
#1647 [13:48] <Matthew> Your Welcome
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#1650 [13:53] <guest-0-00817> !check
#1651 [13:54] <Matthew|Afk> What do you mean?
#1652 [13:58] <guest-0-00817> !check
#1653 [13:58] <Matthew|Afk> !Check
#1654 [13:58] <Matthew|Afk> lol
#1655 [13:58] <Matthew|Afk> what does that mean?
#1656 [13:58] <guest-0-00817> its checking your server bility
#1657 [13:58] <guest-0-00817> ability to host
#1658 [13:58] <guest-0-00817> ability*
#1659 [13:59] <Matthew|Afk> Ah
#1660 [13:59] <Chris> its seeing if it can connect
#1661 [13:59] <guest-0-00817> i managed to change somthing lol
#1662 [13:59] <guest-0-00817> the portchecker can ping my router now but still saying ports closed .'
#1663 [13:59] <guest-0-00817> ><
#1664 [13:59] <guest-0-00817> !ip
#1665 [14:00] <TheNytangel> guest-0-00817, !myip
#1666 [14:00] <guest-0-00817> !myip
#1667 [14:00] <TheNytangel> guest-0-00817, also !check
#1668 [14:00] <guest-0-00817> !check 69.158.37.169
#1669 [14:01] <TheNytangel> guest-0-00817, do you have teamviewer? I can help you
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#1671 [14:01] <guest-0-00817> i think my portforward is not going to the right ip
#1672 [14:01] <guest-0-00817> yes i do whisper me please
#1673 [14:01] <guest-0-00817> i dont like to shout it out to all
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#1676 [14:10] <guest-0-00817> !check
#1677 [14:11] <guest-0-00817> Blessing sto TheNytangel who succeeded where many have tried :D
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#1680 [14:12] <Justin88> hey
#1681 [14:13] <Justin88> have any of you guys seen these before ? i thought they were awesome but its not for 1.8.1 yet, Its only like 1.7.3 and pre-builds
#1682 [14:13] <Justin88> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/497537-%E2%97%84%D7%98%C9%9E%CE%B7%C9%97%C9%9E%C9%9E%C9%B1craft-hd-skins%E2%96%BA/
#1683 [14:13] <Justin88> Theyre like almost realistic cartoonish skins from Captain america Dr doom deadpool and other stuff
#1684 [14:13] <TheNytangel> We don't care.. stop advertising
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#1686 [14:15] <Justin88> oh yea i forgot you stupid little snobs n chunts think that anyone who likes minecraft stuff is advertising, new gen nerds, my bad. Normally the old community would go cool thanks man . Uptight little computer nerds these days. nothing like the 90's
#1687 [14:15] <Justin88> go ahead and kick all u want w/ ur hurt feelings
#1688 [14:15] <Triggerdusk> wow man way to be a dick
#1689 [14:16] <Justin88> he was the dick first o.O u just joined you have no idea what was said
#1690 [14:16] * Unnheulu [Unnheulu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1691 [14:16] <guest-0-00817> it's not that your just using the wrong IRC to talk about your available skins this is a help chat
#1692 [14:16] <Triggerdusk> how bout pulling that stick out of your ass
#1693 [14:16] <WarpZone> They look okay. But I actually like the pixellated avatars better. And that's coming from someone who's used an iron man skin for a while now.
#1694 [14:16] <Justin88> how bout pulling the nosy out of yours o.O
#1695 [14:16] <TheNytangel> Justin88, it's a help channel
#1696 [14:16] <Triggerdusk> i may have just joined but i read ur asshattery first
#1697 [14:16] <Justin88> its also a minecraft channel
#1698 [14:16] <guest-0-00817> no its not.
#1699 [14:16] <TheNytangel> Helping with minecraft
#1700 [14:16] <guest-0-00817> itsd a HELP channel
#1701 [14:16] <TheNytangel> Go to #minecraft or something and see how much they care there
#1702 [14:17] <Justin88> oh shit help with what ?
#1703 [14:17] <Justin88> with minecraft ?
#1704 [14:17] <TheNytangel> Nope
#1705 [14:17] <guest-0-00817> issues running minecraft installing pathcing etc.
#1706 [14:17] <TheNytangel> Battlefield 3
#1707 [14:17] <Justin88> im sorry that i beileved ppl who want help with minecraft
#1708 [14:17] <guest-0-00817> not heres my skins to try
#1709 [14:17] <Justin88> actually cared about the game minecraft
#1710 [14:17] <guest-0-00817> they do in another channel.
#1711 [14:17] <Justin88> Not just want to get minecraft running and not play it you know -.o
#1712 [14:17] <Triggerdusk> dude accpet you went into the wrogn channel for your issue and leave dont be a troll and ass and start flaming ppl
#1713 [14:17] <guest-0-00817> the people in here volunteer their time to help others not to be interupted by childish attempts to get people to use their skins.
#1714 [14:17] <Justin88> dont be so oblivious
#1715 [14:18] <Justin88> Oh is that what im doing ? did you ask
#1716 [14:18] <WarpZone> Justin, the point is to make a dedicated help area.
#1717 [14:18] <Justin88> Ive been in here and helped tons of ppl before
#1718 [14:18] <TheNytangel> Uh huh
#1719 [14:18] <Justin88> I figured hey cool i found something online that loooks nice
#1720 [14:18] <Triggerdusk> doesnt give you the right to be a douche man
#1721 [14:18] <Justin88> maybe other ppl would like it
#1722 [14:18] <Triggerdusk> grow up
#1723 [14:18] <guest-0-00817> well then respect the channels use ;p
#1724 [14:18] <Justin88> if they dont no big deal not oh shit new gen kids call everything advertising and trolling
#1725 [14:18] <AndrewPH> Justin88: I am the old community, I think you're dumb
#1726 [14:18] <Justin88> not realising in reality theyre the ones being jerks by assuming so much
#1727 [14:19] <guest-0-00817> im just saying its the wrong place..
#1728 [14:19] <WarpZone> Guys, stop fighting. Justin, the other minecraft channels would be a great place to show off your skins.
#1729 [14:19] <Justin88> Andrew if you werent using IRC in the 688s your not the old "IRC" community
#1730 [14:19] <Justin88> theyre not my skins
#1731 [14:19] <Triggerdusk> justin are you part of genY? or generation X
#1732 [14:19] <AndrewPH> Judging by your ability to spell, you weren't using irc in the '688's
#1733 [14:19] <Justin88> theyre just something i thought other people would think was cool and if they didnt oh well
#1734 [14:19] <WarpZone> Either way.
#1735 [14:20] <Justin88> not go into a huge debate about calling it advertising
#1736 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> This is a #minecrafthelp channel, not a #flamewars channel. Stop.
#1737 [14:20] <Justin88> alright =p i didnt start any of it though =p
#1738 [14:20] <Triggerdusk> high fives to you grey
#1739 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Don't care, this talk stops now.
#1740 [14:20] <guest-0-00817> Vulpine putting the hamma down O.O
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#1742 [14:20] <Triggerdusk> anyways, i have a question
#1743 [14:20] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#1744 [14:21] <Triggerdusk> is it possible to take your server world and use it as a single player world?
#1745 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1746 [14:21] * mib_rc6iv4 [mib_rc6iv4@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1747 [14:21] <Triggerdusk> fucking right
#1748 [14:21] * AuBot kicked Triggerdusk from #minecrafthelp (Reason: riggerdusk :Please keep it civil.)
#1749 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> Move the /world/ folder in where you have .minecraft/saves
#1750 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#1751 [14:21] <guest-0-00817> lawl
#1752 [14:21] <TheNytangel> Lol
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#1754 [14:21] <mib_rc6iv4> Hey guys I need help
#1755 [14:21] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1756 [14:21] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, I bet minecraft
#1757 [14:21] <raisin> i need help
#1758 [14:21] <WarpZone> Grey, can you direct me to an IRC about minecraft mod development?
#1759 [14:22] * Triggerdusk [Triggerdusk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1760 [14:22] <TheNytangel> WarpZone, #risucraft
#1761 [14:22] <Triggerdusk> ahem
#1762 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> WarpZone - Development, #risucraft or #mcp-modding
#1763 [14:22] <WarpZone> Thanks!
#1764 [14:22] <Daihak> wb trigger
#1765 [14:22] <mib_rc6iv4> I bought the game but when I type user and pass in game it says account not premium
#1766 [14:22] <Triggerdusk> hehe anyways sweet how do i pull that off
#1767 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> Move the /world/ folder in where you have .minecraft/saves
#1768 [14:22] <raisin> whenever i start the game a white screen pops up and wont let me play
#1769 [14:22] <TheNytangel> mib_rc6iv4, when did you buy it?
#1770 [14:22] <Triggerdusk> wow easy as pie thanks again grey
#1771 [14:22] <mib_rc6iv4> Yesterday
#1772 [14:22] <TheNytangel> mib_rc6iv4, have you recieved an e-mail yet?
#1773 [14:22] <GreyVulpine> mib_rc6iv4 - Did you receive any confirmation emails?
#1774 [14:22] <mib_rc6iv4> No
#1775 [14:23] <TheNytangel> This can take up to two days
#1776 [14:23] <Daihak> is there any way to increase my upload speed without wsitching internet providers lol
#1777 [14:23] <Justin88> and how did you pay for it is important as well, checking CC, etc. Money order
#1778 [14:23] <TheNytangel> No
#1779 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - No.
#1780 [14:23] <Daihak> blah
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#1782 [14:23] <Daihak> stupid canada and its third world internet
#1783 [14:23] <raisin> can someone help eme?
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#1785 [14:23] <TheNytangel> Daihak, you know how I feel...
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#1787 [14:23] <Tyres> Is there an official fansite kit ?
#1788 [14:23] <Justin88> rasin try posting ur system specs
#1789 [14:23] <Triggerdusk> hey grey do you use winrar?
#1790 [14:23] <mib_rc6iv4> Do I haVe to confirm email to start playing?
#1791 [14:23] <TheNytangel> Daihak, I live with a .6 Mbps download and .3 Mbps upload
#1792 [14:23] <Unnheulu> If I try moving the screen right in fullscreen mode it sometimes jumps back left
#1793 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> raisin - Has it worked before?
#1794 [14:23] <GreyVulpine> Triggerdusk - Yes
#1795 [14:23] <Daihak> TheNytangel, o you to eh?
#1796 [14:24] <Unnheulu> This only started happening recently
#1797 [14:24] <Daihak> lol same as me
#1798 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Yikes!
#1799 [14:24] <raisin> yeah it has worked before only starteed lst night
#1800 [14:24] <Triggerdusk> ok godo cuase i cant figure out how to merge my resource folders when installing a mod
#1801 [14:24] <Daihak> we share net me thinks
#1802 [14:24] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, you've known this for a while now unless you forgot, haven't you?
#1803 [14:24] <Justin88> did you attempt modding it in any way rasin ?
#1804 [14:24] <raisin> no
#1805 [14:24] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - I didn't realize you had that crap of a connection
#1806 [14:24] <mib_rc6iv4> Do I have to confirm purchase email to start playing?
#1807 [14:25] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, and after all these weeks, you didn't let me move to GreyVulpine Land..
#1808 [14:25] <Justin88> no you dont, or not all the time because I didnt
#1809 [14:25] <Daihak> GreyVulpine, thats the top speed we can get here
#1810 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Triggerdusk - Modding, eh..
#1811 [14:25] <TheNytangel> mib_rc6iv4, yes, because that is when your account turns premium
#1812 [14:25] <Justin88> I paid with a CC though
#1813 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> Triggerdusk - Other than just moving mod files into minecraft.jar, I can't really help beyond that.
#1814 [14:25] <TheNytangel> Daihak, I live in North Dakota
#1815 [14:25] <Triggerdusk> i know i know modding isnt a popular topic in here
#1816 [14:25] <Unnheulu> Anyone know what's going wrong? It's really quite frustrating
#1817 [14:25] <GreyVulpine> I don't really have a firm grasp of what mods work together, and which don't
#1818 [14:25] <Daihak> TheNytangel, o .. lol well guess its as far behind as ontario
#1819 [14:25] <mib_rc6iv4> Oh ok so it should probably arrive soon then cuz it was yesterday... Thanks guys!
#1820 [14:25] <Triggerdusk> no no im asing if theres a option i use to merge two folders
#1821 [14:26] <GreyVulpine> Not in winrar..
#1822 [14:26] <Justin88> uhm u can copy the contents by hand and put them ion one folder and rename it
#1823 [14:26] <Justin88> thats basically the same thing
#1824 [14:26] <Triggerdusk> there isnt? but i have done it unintentionaly before
#1825 [14:26] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, there should be an option for it..
#1826 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, not aware of one for winrar then
#1827 [14:27] * GreyVulpine looks
#1827 [14:27] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, I use winrar, it always gives me an option to like, Move and replace or something, and then a couple more
#1828 [14:27] <Justin88> other then an option though the easiest way is go to files Ctrl+A Ctrl+C or X then where u want them Ctrl+v
#1829 [14:27] * Daihak moves to africa for better internet
#1829 [14:28] <Daihak> the worst part: my friend pays 20 bucks less a month for 18mbps and 6mbps uplaod unlimited usage and I have limitied usage
#1830 [14:28] <Daihak> at 6 and .3
#1831 [14:28] <Daihak> ><
#1832 [14:28] <Justin88> where does ur friend live o.O
#1833 [14:28] <Daihak> India
#1834 [14:29] <Triggerdusk> daihalkget some time warner able turbo
#1835 [14:29] <Justin88> oh that upload download ratio is pretty high for some US providers
#1836 [14:29] <Justin88> just go with fiber optics, that'll be the new standard for economy usage until something better comes along
#1837 [14:29] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, "Add and replace," "Add and update," "Fresh existing files only,"Ask before overwrite," "Skip existing files"
#1838 [14:30] <Daihak> I have no option for fiber optics 6mbps is the best availalbe here with .3 upload
#1839 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm..
#1840 [14:30] <TheNytangel> Triggerdusk, you should usually go with "Add and replace"
#1841 [14:30] <Daihak> lol i remember the days when 56k was lightning
#1842 [14:30] <Triggerdusk> hmmm so pretty much a standerd drag and drop action?
#1843 [14:30] <TheNytangel> Triggerdusk, yeah
#1844 [14:30] <Triggerdusk> sweet i guess ill stick to that
#1845 [14:31] <TheNytangel> Triggerdusk, the default option for winrar should be add and replace
#1846 [14:31] <Unnheulu> No one knows how to fix my problem?
#1847 [14:31] <Daihak> stats the issue please
#1848 [14:31] <Daihak> state*
#1849 [14:32] <Triggerdusk> thanks guys
#1850 [14:32] <Unnheulu> If I move the screen to the right in fullscreen it occasionally jumps back left
#1851 [14:32] <Unnheulu> The issue has only been happening for a day or two
#1852 [14:32] <Unnheulu> (OS is XUbuntu 11.10 beta)
#1853 [14:32] <Daihak> Unnheu1u, did you mess with any video or display setting the last few days ?
#1854 [14:32] <Unnheulu> No
#1855 [14:32] <Daihak> oo ubuntu im out lol
#1856 [14:33] <Unnheulu> Only ATI settings
#1857 [14:33] <Daihak> dont know jack about ubuntu
#1858 [14:33] <Daihak> srry
#1859 [14:33] <Unnheulu> Not ubuntu, xubuntu :P
#1860 [14:33] <TheNytangel> Aghhh
#1861 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Both debian derivatives.. hmm
#1862 [14:33] <Unnheulu> Anyways would that make an issue?
#1863 [14:33] <TheNytangel> Can't open mouth wide enough to chew cantalope
#1864 [14:33] <Unnheulu> Unfree debian, meh
#1865 [14:33] <Daihak> on windows it can
#1866 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Could perhaps try updating lwjgl Unnheulu?
#1867 [14:33] <Unnheulu> lwjgl?
#1868 [14:34] <TheNytangel> HA
#1869 [14:34] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine got reset
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#1871 [14:34] <Daihak> lawl
#1872 [14:34] <Daihak> nice reset nub :D
#1873 [14:34] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, now you know how I feel. Every.. 10.. minutes..
#1874 [14:34] <TheNytangel> And that's on a good day
#1875 [14:34] <Scott> GreyVulpine: You are double op o:
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#1877 [14:35] <TheNytangel> O.o
#1878 [14:35] <GreyBot> Bah
#1879 [14:35] <GreyBot> Unnheulu - It's what minecraft uses, lightweight java gaming library, files can be found in ~/.minecraft/bin/ and ~/.minecraft/bin/natives
#1880 [14:36] <GreyBot> Directions are here: http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
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#1883 [14:36] <Cloud7> hi
#1884 [14:36] <TheNytangel> I would rather go for cloud11
#1885 [14:36] <GrayVulpine> omg ~!
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#1887 [14:36] <TheNytangel> GrayVulpine, imposter!
#1888 [14:36] <Cloud7> got a BIG problem with the game. I can't destroy stones, when i am playing multiplayer
#1889 [14:36] <TheNytangel> Daihak, you even spelled it wrong
#1890 [14:36] <Daihak> well it was taken ;lp
#1891 [14:37] <TheNytangel> Cloud7, are you neear spawn?
#1892 [14:37] <Daihak> hadto improvise
#1893 [14:37] <Justin88> lol
#1894 [14:37] <AnimeNeko> TheNytangelim on the same server as Cloud7 i can but he cant
#1895 [14:37] <Cloud7> idd
#1896 [14:37] <AnimeNeko> we are also away from the spawn place
#1897 [14:37] <Daihak> Cloud7, a certain aoe aroudn spawn is unbreakable
#1898 [14:37] <AnimeNeko> then i can destroy but Cloud7 cant
#1899 [14:38] <Daihak> ooo
#1900 [14:38] <Justin88> Or private places
#1901 [14:38] <Justin88> Like, hmm does it break and then re appear?
#1902 [14:38] <Daihak> could be lag
#1903 [14:38] <Cloud7> Justin88 nope
#1904 [14:38] <Cloud7> it doesn'T break at all
#1905 [14:38] <Unnheulu> Bah
#1906 [14:38] <Unnheulu> Downloaded source out of habit
#1907 [14:38] <Justin88> wierd what is it your breaking ?
#1908 [14:38] <TheNytangel> Daihak, also: Rule 4 of the #minecrafthelp rules - Do not impersonate others. You will be reported to EsperNet staff. (Just in case you didn't read them)
#1909 [14:38] <AnimeNeko> dirt
#1910 [14:39] <Justin88> hmmmmm
#1911 [14:39] <Daihak> o comooone i didnt even try D: i just did a one second name switch D:
#1912 [14:39] <AnimeNeko> he can remove torches etc
#1913 [14:39] <AnimeNeko> but not blocks
#1914 [14:39] <Daihak> thats weird
#1915 [14:39] <Daihak> lol
#1916 [14:39] <Justin88> do you have this ?
#1917 [14:39] <Justin88> .jar file called "Essentials Protect
#1918 [14:39] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, suddenly I am fine with my internet..
#1919 [14:39] <Unnheulu> <3 ssd
#1920 [14:39] <AnimeNeko> Justin88 clean server
#1921 [14:40] <AnimeNeko> no mods
#1922 [14:40] <Justin88> k
#1923 [14:40] <AnimeNeko> just dl the windows server exe and tried it
#1924 [14:40] <Cloud7> also tried it with browser
#1925 [14:40] <AnimeNeko> on my other server that we actually wanna play i tried that essentials
#1926 [14:40] <AnimeNeko> but didnt work also
#1927 [14:40] <Unnheulu> Woah
#1928 [14:40] <Unnheulu> The file size is getting smaller?
#1929 [14:40] <TheNytangel> HA
#1930 [14:40] <TheNytangel> AnimeNeko, try make him op
#1931 [14:40] <AnimeNeko> already did
#1932 [14:40] <Justin88> Hmm, do you by chande have an auto cliker or anything ?
#1933 [14:40] <Cloud7> didn'T work either
#1934 [14:41] <Unnheulu> 222.5kb to 209.8kb
#1935 [14:41] <Unnheulu> Are the .jars for LWJGL meant to be smaller than those in .minecraft/bin?
#1936 [14:41] <Justin88> if you have a program that makes u click a lot faster than norm nothing will happen on minecraft
#1937 [14:41] <Cloud7> don't have such a programm
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#1940 [14:41] <AnimeNeko> it works in single player as Cloud7 said
#1941 [14:41] <AnimeNeko> but not in multy
#1942 [14:41] <Justin88> unnheulu yea some of the updated ones are smaller
#1943 [14:42] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, if you didn't get my last message, I said that I'm fine with my internet now..
#1944 [14:42] <Unnheulu> Backing up just in case ;)
#1945 [14:42] * GreyVulpine grumbles
#1945 [14:42] <TheNytangel> :)
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#1948 [14:42] <AnimeNeko> any idea how to fix it so Cloud7 can play normaly?
#1949 [14:43] <Unnheulu> Same problem
#1950 [14:43] <Justin88> mm is it one of your two guys' server?
#1951 [14:43] * nargosvoge [nargosvoge@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1952 [14:43] <AnimeNeko> mine
#1953 [14:44] <nargosvoge> does any one know how to make a server for minecraft?
#1954 [14:44] <Justin88> ok anime if you want to try this? i don't want this to be the soulution but if you want to go ahead and test it till you find a better answer
#1955 [14:44] <TheNytangel> nargosvoge, yes we do
#1956 [14:44] <nargosvoge> could you tell me how to do it?
#1957 [14:44] <AnimeNeko> ok\
#1958 [14:44] <TheNytangel> nargosvoge, with one of these:
#1959 [14:44] <TheNytangel> !server
#1960 [14:44] <Justin88> this was what has worked for some people but i beilieve doing it makes it like, i forget
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#1962 [14:44] <Justin88> Open your server properties and change the online mode to false and save it and run the server.
#1963 [14:44] <TheNytangel> Justin88, $10 it won't work
#1964 [14:45] <AnimeNeko> already tried that Justin88
#1965 [14:45] <nargosvoge> ok thanks i will try that
#1966 [14:45] <Justin88> alright =]
#1967 [14:45] <TheNytangel> nargosvoge, but wait
#1968 [14:45] <Justin88> uhm
#1969 [14:45] <TheNytangel> nargosvoge, you also need to... *dramatic pause* PORT FORWARD
#1970 [14:45] <Chris> lo
#1971 [14:45] <Justin88> has cloud just tried reinstalling minecraft yet ?
#1972 [14:45] <Chris> l
#1973 [14:45] <Justin88> like dlete everything ? save the worlds and stuff and then reinstall minecraft
#1974 [14:46] <Cloud7> reinstalling
#1975 [14:46] <AnimeNeko> he removed the .minecraft in roaming
#1976 [14:46] <AnimeNeko> like 5 times
#1977 [14:46] <Cloud7> yeah
#1978 [14:46] <Justin88> o.o
#1979 [14:46] * TheNytangel suddenly got cold
#1979 [14:46] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, you aren't paying the heating bills?
#1980 [14:46] <Justin88> is there a setting that you can make ppl not break stuff and you did it to him lol ? idk
#1981 [14:46] <AnimeNeko> yea i found it strange also
#1982 [14:46] <Justin88> Ill google it some more =/
#1983 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> I did nothing!
#1984 [14:46] <AnimeNeko> no idea
#1985 [14:47] <AnimeNeko> i took a clean server
#1986 [14:47] <AnimeNeko> didnt change settings
#1987 [14:47] <AnimeNeko> and it didnt work
#1988 [14:47] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, exactly. That includes NOT paying the bills for the chatroom :P
#1989 [14:47] <AnimeNeko> so iguess i didnt do taht :)
#1990 [14:47] <Justin88> lol
#1991 [14:47] <Justin88> hmm
#1992 [14:48] <Justin88> how many ppl are on ur server ?
#1993 [14:48] <Unnheulu> So nobody has a clue what's gone wrong with my minecraft? :D
#1994 [14:48] <AnimeNeko> 2
#1995 [14:48] <Justin88> Just you and him ?
#1996 [14:48] <Justin88> So whats ur specs for your computer maybe theres a huge amount of lag thats taking minutes literally?
#1997 [14:48] <Tyres> Is there an official fansite kit
#1998 [14:48] <TheNytangel> Tyres, for what?
#1999 [14:48] <Justin88> You wouldnt notice it since ur the host its like playing single player for you
#2000 [14:48] <AnimeNeko> i7 12 GB ddr ram
#2001 [14:48] <Justin88> Only someone connecting to you would notice it
#2002 [14:48] <AnimeNeko> win7 64bit
#2003 [14:48] <TheNytangel> AnimeNeko, what's your internet speed
#2004 [14:49] <AnimeNeko> with java 64 bit
#2005 [14:49] <AnimeNeko> 15 mbit up
#2006 [14:49] <Unnheulu> AnimeNeko, isn't the majority of RAM some form of ddr?
#2007 [14:49] <Unnheulu> /pedantic
#2008 [14:49] <Tyres> TheNytangel Websites ?
#2009 [14:49] <AnimeNeko> yes i know :)
#2010 [14:49] <AnimeNeko> but its DDR1 , 2, 3
#2011 [14:49] <AnimeNeko> :P
#2012 [14:49] <Daihak> 15mb up ??
#2013 [14:49] <AnimeNeko> 15 Mbit
#2014 [14:49] <Unnheulu> ;)
#2015 [14:49] <Cloud7> win7 64bit with java 64bit 4gb ram intel dualcare 2*3GHz so no tthat good, but i think it should be enough for that game
#2016 [14:49] <TheNytangel> Tyres, do you want the forum or something?
#2017 [14:49] <Daihak> fck you man D: gimme your net
#2018 [14:49] <TheNytangel> Daihak, upload speed
#2019 [14:49] <Cloud7> ddr3 here
#2020 [14:49] <Daihak> i knwo lol
#2021 [14:49] <Daihak> know*
#2022 [14:49] <AnimeNeko> 120/15 mbit
#2023 [14:50] <Daihak> i buy your net 200 doller a month ?
#2024 [14:50] <Tyres> TheNytangel Ya i will make my own Theme for Forum and Website
#2025 [14:50] <AnimeNeko> hehe
#2026 [14:50] <Justin88> his internet ? like 100 ?
#2027 [14:50] <AnimeNeko> i pay 70 euro :)
#2028 [14:50] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, if I really wanted my mom to spend $200 for internet and phone and TV, it would be 100 Mbps download and 50 Mbps upload or something
#2029 [14:50] <AnimeNeko> for internet/tv/phone
#2030 [14:50] <Cloud7> my inet is 32mbit
#2031 [14:50] <Justin88> thats how much i paid for 100 down 20 up
#2032 [14:50] <Daihak> maybe your nets so fast it cant register his actions cause its already moved on ?
#2033 [14:50] <TheNytangel> Tyres, minecraftforum.net
#2034 [14:50] <Daihak> lol
#2035 [14:50] <Justin88> lol daihak
#2036 [14:51] <AnimeNeko> well he also tried it on a different server of someone we dont know
#2037 [14:51] <AnimeNeko> just looked it up on google
#2038 [14:51] <Cloud7> i could try it again on another server, could someone give me a ip/name of a server?
#2039 [14:51] <Justin88> do you have this setting ?
#2040 [14:51] <Justin88> set allow building to true for default users and have the file the same name as your world
#2041 [14:51] <Daihak> come to mnie
#2042 [14:51] <Daihak> :D
#2043 [14:51] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, 100 upload and 15 download.. not 50 :P
#2044 [14:51] <Tyres> TheNytangel http://trimr.de/144w ??
#2045 [14:51] <Cloud7> Daihak ok
#2046 [14:52] <Scott> I should move in Colo4. I could get 10000/10000 :D
#2047 [14:52] <Daihak> 69.158.37.169:255
#2048 [14:52] <Daihak> err 25565
#2049 [14:52] <Cloud7> ?
#2050 [14:52] <AnimeNeko> Justin88 well i didnt change anything to the server.properties of the new one
#2051 [14:52] * GreyVulpine steals Scott's bandwidth
#2051 [14:52] <Daihak> 69.158.37.169
#2052 [14:52] <nargosvoge> ok i think it worked, but how can i tell what the IP address is?
#2053 [14:52] <Daihak> ip
#2054 [14:52] <TheNytangel> Tyres, why didn't you just post the link
#2055 [14:52] <Chris|ZzZ> !myip
#2056 [14:52] <Scott> 10 GigE NIC's are quite expensive XD
#2057 [14:52] <Chris|ZzZ> nargo, type !myip
#2058 [14:52] <TheNytangel> Scott, can I sit outside your house and steal wifi?
#2059 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, I'll hook it up to my neural net.
#2060 [14:52] <nargosvoge> ok thanks
#2061 [14:53] <Chris|ZzZ> into irc
#2062 [14:53] <Scott> TheNytangel: The best wifi is 600mbit/sec
#2063 [14:53] <Scott> :s
#2064 [14:53] <TheNytangel> Scott, I'll take it
#2065 [14:53] <TheNytangel> It's better than .6 and .3
#2066 [14:53] <Scott> lol my internet is crap
#2067 [14:53] <Scott> I get 10/.3 here
#2068 [14:53] <Scott> I could get 50/30 for $100/month
#2069 [14:53] <Justin88> Hmm this problem is complexing .. indeed. has cloud played Minecraft before?
#2070 [14:54] <Scott> I pay $42/month right now
#2071 [14:54] <AnimeNeko> no
#2072 [14:54] <AnimeNeko> well classic
#2073 [14:54] <AnimeNeko> only
#2074 [14:54] <Justin88> I hope its not something as simple as hes not holding left click down, or not long enough
#2075 [14:54] <AnimeNeko> haha that would be funny if that was the problem :D
#2076 [14:54] <Justin88> cause in creative single u only have to click
#2077 [14:54] <Justin88> whereas in survival you have to hold down until it breaks
#2078 [14:54] <TheNytangel> Scott, we could get 30/5 here for $105 a month
#2079 [14:54] <AnimeNeko> Cloud7 did you hold the left mouse?
#2080 [14:54] <AnimeNeko> to break it
#2081 [14:55] <Cloud7> lol
#2082 [14:55] <TheNytangel> And then 100 and 15 for $200, but this is all including TV and phone
#2083 [14:55] <Cloud7> be serious ^^
#2084 [14:55] <Justin88> u have to hold it like forever with just ur fist if its in survival =] some ppl dont know
#2085 [14:55] <Justin88> they just play creative single and think u only have to click once
#2086 [14:55] <Scott> Facetime is weird :s
#2087 [14:55] <Cloud7> no i clicked like 500 times already
#2088 [14:55] <Scott> It like opens by itself when I get an incoming call
#2089 [14:55] <Justin88> but in survival it takes like 20 secs of holding down to break a block
#2090 [14:55] <Scott> lol
#2091 [14:55] <Cloud7> in this last 3-4 hours
#2092 [14:56] <Justin88> u dont click
#2093 [14:56] <Justin88> u hold down
#2094 [14:56] <Justin88> until it break
#2095 [14:56] <Justin88> one click and hold for like 20 secs
#2096 [14:56] <Daihak> lol
#2097 [14:56] <Daihak> you have to hold it down haha
#2098 [14:56] <Justin88> lines start to form and eventually it braeks
#2099 [14:56] <Daihak> rejoin now cloud
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#2101 [14:56] <TheNytangel> Justin88, to break dirt? It should take 1 second..
#2102 [14:57] <AnimeNeko> dirt like 2 second with hands or so
#2103 [14:57] <Cloud7> ok
#2104 [14:57] <Cloud7> i guess that was it
#2105 [14:57] <Cloud7> lol
#2106 [14:57] <Cloud7> noone said that to me
#2107 [14:57] <Cloud7> i thought you press it like in the classical one
#2108 [14:57] <Cloud7> *facpalm*
#2109 [14:57] <Justin88> nah its fine
#2110 [14:57] <Cloud7> going to try it on your server also neko
#2111 [14:58] <Justin88> i had just thought of it too cause yea if u play single
#2112 [14:58] <AnimeNeko> yea let me start it
#2113 [14:58] <Justin88> its just click click click
#2114 [14:58] <Justin88> survival is harder
#2115 [14:58] <AnimeNeko> ok try Cloud7
#2116 [14:58] <Justin88> nyt i was being a little overdramatic lol
#2117 [14:58] <Daihak> he worked fine on my server
#2118 [14:58] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, do you want to livestream minecraft to amuse me for a couple minutes? :)
#2119 [14:58] <Daihak> it was the left click hold
#2120 [14:59] <AnimeNeko> it works
#2121 [14:59] <AnimeNeko> lol
#2122 [14:59] <Daihak> lol
#2123 [14:59] <Cloud7> idd
#2124 [14:59] <Cloud7> lol
#2125 [14:59] <Justin88> See sometimes problems arent so complex, and people look over the simple answers when trying to help someone :]
#2126 [14:59] <Daihak> its so true
#2127 [14:59] * Cloud7 feels ashamed
#2127 [14:59] <Daihak> always ignore th esimple fix leads to hours of unneeded stuff lol
#2128 [14:59] <Cloud7> anyway thanks guys
#2129 [14:59] <Daihak> nah dont happens to alot of classic players
#2130 [15:00] <Justin88> your welcome =]
#2131 [15:00] <AnimeNeko> i was thinking he was holding it so i didnt ask if he did
#2132 [15:00] <Cloud7> it's like in my studies. i often forgett that x=0 could also be a soluition xD
#2133 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> In here, never assume anything..
#2134 [15:00] <Daihak> haha
#2135 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Good catch there Justin88.
#2136 [15:00] <AnimeNeko> anyway thx :P
#2137 [15:00] <Daihak> anyways ima head cyas
#2138 [15:00] <Cloud7> yeah thanks
#2139 [15:00] <Justin88> Ahah , see i do help people out but i still really want that hd skins use for 1.8.1 =[
#2140 [15:00] <TheNytangel> AnimeNeko, it's like trying to teach your dad how to play a shooter game..... and then play with him a couple hours each night. Good times..
#2141 [15:00] <Daihak> o before i go
#2142 [15:00] <AnimeNeko> :)
#2143 [15:01] <Justin88> Ah, i can barely teach my girl how to play rumble fighter =[
#2144 [15:01] <TheNytangel> Daihak, I will take the tip
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#2146 [15:01] <Daihak> is there a way to make it easier for players to spawn correctly on sky island map ?
#2147 [15:01] <TheNytangel> Daihak, with mods, yes
#2148 [15:01] <Daihak> blah
#2149 [15:01] <Daihak> ill just make em respawn 30 times til they get on
#2150 [15:01] <Daihak> cant i change the spawn location as host?
#2151 [15:02] <RobinJ24> I closed my eyes and saw my minecraft character
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#2153 [15:02] * RobinJ24 played a little too much
#2153 [15:02] <Daihak> i remember when i first started
#2154 [15:02] <Daihak> i spent all night digging a mine 100x100
#2155 [15:02] <Daihak> in vanilla
#2156 [15:02] <Daihak> i went out after
#2157 [15:02] <Daihak> and i felt liek i was moving downwards as i went
#2158 [15:03] <Daihak> the whole world was mesed looking
#2159 [15:03] <Daihak> rl
#2160 [15:03] <RobinJ24> lol
#2161 [15:03] <Daihak> it was kinda crazy lol
#2162 [15:03] <RobinJ24> when I was a noob I let a creeper inside my house
#2163 [15:03] <RobinJ24> I even opened the door for it
#2164 [15:03] <Daihak> LOL
#2165 [15:03] <Daihak> thats ok
#2166 [15:03] <Daihak> i spend the first like 3 months
#2167 [15:03] <Justin88> ive gotten kicked out of a server for diggin straight down without torches
#2168 [15:03] <Justin88> >_>
#2169 [15:04] <Daihak> not knowing i cold hold shif tto not fall off while building sides out
#2170 [15:04] <Daihak> i feel so much
#2171 [15:04] <Justin88> Itsn ot like minecraft goes into pitch black
#2172 [15:04] <Daihak> i creeped edges to build for months and feel all the time
#2173 [15:04] <Daihak> fell*
#2174 [15:05] <Justin88> I feel like this is one of the only minecraft channels that has older people
#2175 [15:05] <Justin88> and isnt ridiculously flooded by chat
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#2178 [15:09] <heyman406> I can't get Minecraft to work. Help?
#2179 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> Many younger people don't have the patience to stay around here and spend time here.
#2180 [15:09] <Sam> I'm having a bit of trouble using the Function keys on Minecraft. They don't seem to work
#2181 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> heyman406 - And why is that?
#2182 [15:09] <heyman406> it says it crashed
#2183 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> heyman406 - Do you get an error report?
#2184 [15:10] <heyman406> Yes but it won't let me copy it.
#2185 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> heyman406 -Has it worked before?
#2186 [15:10] <heyman406> Just about 20 minutes ago it stoped working and I have played it for a few months before that.
#2187 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
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#2189 [15:11] <heyman406> Yeah.
#2190 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> ??> heyman406 win/reinst
#2191 [15:11] <VoxelHead> heyman406: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2192 [15:11] <VoxelHead> heyman406: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2193 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> Try those instructions
#2194 [15:12] <heyman406> Ok I'll try that thanks.
#2195 [15:12] <Justin88> Oh do any of you know if theres a program that cant tell me specifically which cores a process is using or how many
#2196 [15:12] <Aion88> hi is there a way to see an error report if the client crashes abruptly, my client constantly crashes when i make something epic, (hardware issue is least likely)
#2197 [15:12] <Justin88> m,hmm
#2198 [15:12] <Justin88> i think u put something like tyhis in a bat file at the end
#2199 [15:12] <Justin88> 2> errorlog.txt
#2200 [15:12] <Justin88> C:\Program Files
#2201 [15:13] <Justin88> 2> errorlog.txtC:\Program Files <-- i dont know why it posted seperately
#2202 [15:13] <Aion88> is that response to em?
#2203 [15:13] <Aion88> me
#2204 [15:13] <Justin88> yup
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#2206 [15:13] <Justin88> it creates an errorlog in whatever place u have ur minecraft
#2207 [15:13] <Sam> Er, anyone there that knows about my problem?
#2208 [15:14] <Justin88> Have you posted your problem ?
#2209 [15:14] <Sam> Yes
#2210 [15:14] <Justin88> oh what function keys
#2211 [15:14] <Justin88> like F11 and stuff
#2212 [15:14] <Sam> any of them
#2213 [15:14] <Sam> Yeah
#2214 [15:14] <Justin88> that one specifically ?
#2215 [15:15] <Sam> When my a button broke, all the function keys stopped working on MC
#2216 [15:15] <Justin88> Did you use mcpatcher or mod anything ? cause when I did i could use F11 to fullscreen anymore
#2217 [15:15] <Sam> Or, no
#2218 [15:15] <Justin88> couldnt*
#2219 [15:15] <Sam> Er*
#2220 [15:15] <Justin88> hmm did you try plugging in a diff keyboard to see if it is really just yourkeyboard
#2221 [15:15] <Sam> I'm using a laptop
#2222 [15:15] <Justin88> Cause then, the soultion is to just replace your keyboard
#2223 [15:15] <Justin88> OH
#2224 [15:16] <Justin88> x[
#2225 [15:16] <Sam> ...
#2226 [15:16] <Justin88> well u can still do that
#2227 [15:16] <Justin88> Plug in via usb
#2228 [15:16] <Aion88> cant find the error log
#2229 [15:16] <Sam> I don't have any other keyboard on me
#2230 [15:16] <Justin88> Ask grey he might know >_<
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#2232 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Aion88 - Do you see any files named hs_err_pid where you have the launcher?
#2233 [15:16] <Justin88> but it sounds like keyboard problem to me
#2234 [15:17] <Sam> Hmmm
#2235 [15:17] <Justin88> since u said it happened after ur button broke
#2236 [15:17] <Sam> Yeah
#2237 [15:17] <Justin88> unless you can think of anything else that may have happened
#2238 [15:17] <Sam> Nope
#2239 [15:17] <Justin88> try getting a friend
#2240 [15:17] <Sam> It worked before it happened
#2241 [15:17] <Justin88> or bringing ur lappy to a stor
#2242 [15:18] <Justin88> and secretly plugin a keyboard >:D or just ask
#2243 [15:18] <Justin88> be like Hi ' my laptop has problems and id like to try buying a keyboard replacement, do you mind if i plug it in to make sure it works before i buy it
#2244 [15:18] <Justin88> And theyll be like sure sure cause they think ur gonna buy it, then when you find out it works u canleav :]
#2245 [15:20] <Aion88> so the errorlog will be where ever the launcher is located then
#2246 [15:20] <Aion88> i had it on my desktop this whole time and i never saw one
#2247 [15:20] <Justin88> chyeah,
#2248 [15:20] <Justin88> are u running it via a bat file ?
#2249 [15:21] <Aion88> are you talking about server or client justin
#2250 [15:21] <Jorre> So, are there any official Minecraft servers?
#2251 [15:21] <Justin88> client
#2252 [15:21] <Justin88> u can use the linux version of either on windows
#2253 [15:21] <Aion88> ive never ran client before using a bat
#2254 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Jorre - There are not
#2255 [15:21] <Aion88> im using .exe
#2256 [15:21] <Justin88> I dod it to allow minecraf to use more memory
#2257 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Aion88 - Yes, please copy the contents of it to pastebin.com and give us the URL so that we may read it
#2258 [15:22] <Justin88> Just cause i blow up like 100,000 packs of TNT and watch it eat 5GB of RAM
#2259 [15:22] <Jorre> Are there any good ones you'd recommend?
#2260 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> For a list of SMP servers, try one of these fan-made lists:
#2261 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> ??> Jorre smp/servers
#2262 [15:23] <VoxelHead> Jorre: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2263 [15:23] <VoxelHead> Jorre: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2264 [15:23] <Justin88> Jorre
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#2266 [15:23] <Justin88> When you select a minecraft server its better to go to one that's been up for awhile
#2267 [15:23] <Aion88> ok ill try to see if its the .exe, if it happens on the linux variant ill post error report
#2268 [15:24] <Justin88> A lot of the ones that are up for a day are corrupt and its a bunch of friends giving their friends OP and letting them kill pppl and grief everywhere for no reason
#2269 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Well, with any public servers, you run the risk of griefers coming on, unless that server's managed heavily, or has some sort of protection plugin
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#2271 [15:25] <Sardonicus> Why is it called griefer?
#2272 [15:25] <Jorre> Thanks :)
#2273 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> griefer = causes grief = person that destroys things that other people make, just to feed on their anger
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#2275 [15:26] <Justin88> Bahahaha
#2276 [15:27] <Sardonicus> griefer = sadist?
#2277 [15:27] <GreyVulpine> Just people that get their rocks off on making other people angry, somehow makes it fun for them.
#2278 [15:27] <Justin88> i settle my sadistic ways by pushing cows of of high cliffs and watch them cry in pain all the way down as they finally splat and give me beef to cook
#2279 [15:27] <Sardonicus> Well sometimes that can be fun.
#2280 [15:28] <Justin88> only cause they cant do it in real life :D cause if they did they get curb stomped
#2281 [15:28] <Sardonicus> Justin88 hehe but eatch out you don't fall down yourself after them.
#2282 [15:28] <Justin88> lol
#2283 [15:28] <Sardonicus> Can you push other players in Multiplayer?
#2284 [15:28] <Justin88> I want to see if this mod really works that im using, it seems smooth and it claim to allow minecraft to use two cores simultaneously
#2285 [15:29] <Justin88> yes and no u can hit them and make them run off =]
#2286 [15:29] <Justin88> Bahahhah ...
#2287 [15:29] <Sardonicus> In my past I've been playing Crysis 1 in multiplayer.Very funny to push other vehicles down the cliff with your tank. :)
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#2289 [15:29] <Justin88> Im gonna add that to a server... A long stretch of 2x2 road in the air for duels to the death if u try to run u fall off
#2290 [15:29] <Sardonicus> one time I pushed 3 in a row :D got kicked directly then
#2291 [15:30] <Sardonicus> Haha Justin88 great idea. Would be fun if they try to remove the ground under the other player.
#2292 [15:31] <Justin88> sounds like something out of tron
#2293 [15:31] <Justin88> =]
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#2296 [15:31] <Spectob> i need help
#2297 [15:32] <Sardonicus> Yes?
#2298 [15:32] <Aion88> i feels epic stupid, cant get errorlog to pop up
#2299 [15:32] <Spectob> when i open minecraft and login it closes after ablack screen
#2300 [15:32] <Boondock1872> Hey im running Mac OSX 10.5.8 and every time I try to play everything loads and such it goes to a black screen...how do i fix this?
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#2302 [15:33] <Spectob> i tryed forceupdating but not luck
#2303 [15:33] <Spectob> @bonndock1872
#2304 [15:33] <Spectob> i think i have the same problem
#2305 [15:33] <Spectob> does it auto close
#2306 [15:33] <lemon-rev> guys black screen make sure java is up todate java.com
#2307 [15:33] <lemon-rev> please stop hitting enter ,
#2308 [15:34] <Boondock1872> No, it's still up but its just black
#2309 [15:34] <Spectob> oh mine closes
#2310 [15:34] <lemon-rev> Boondock1872 make sure java is uptodate
#2311 [15:34] <lemon-rev> spectob goto minecraft.net and login / click in broswer
#2312 [15:34] <Spectob> ill check mah JAVA
#2313 [15:34] <Spectob> ok
#2314 [15:35] <Scott> Boondock1872: That is an issue that won't be resolved until 1.9.
#2315 [15:35] <Boondock1872> Seriously? How long until then?
#2316 [15:35] <Scott> Mojang broke support for OS X 10.5.
#2317 [15:35] <Scott> There is no estimated release date, however, there are pre-release builds of 1.9 available that you can use in the mean time.
#2318 [15:36] <Spectob> i have white screen for in browser
#2319 [15:36] <Spectob> actually 1.9 is coming out at MINECON
#2320 [15:36] <Spectob> in vegas
#2321 [15:36] <Boondock1872> I'm gonna sound stupid but where are the pre-release build of 1.9?
#2322 [15:36] <Scott> http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre4/minecraft.jar if you want to use 1.9 pre release for now.
#2323 [15:36] <Boondock1872> Thanks dude
#2324 [15:36] <Spectob> ok lemme try again
#2325 [15:36] <Scott> You will want to patch it by replacing the minecraft.jar file in ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin/
#2326 [15:36] <Spectob> in firefox
#2327 [15:37] <Sardonicus> Where's TheNoodle today?
#2328 [15:37] <Scott> To get to that folder, open finer and press command + shift + g
#2329 [15:37] <Scott> finder*
#2330 [15:37] <Justin88> Do any of you guys know of a tool that tells you how may cores a process is using ?
#2331 [15:37] <Spectob> justin88 have you tryed google?
#2332 [15:37] <Sardonicus> Beam him up, Scotty. ^^
#2333 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Justin88 - Perhaps Process explorer? Haven't used that one in a while
#2334 [15:39] <Justin88> lol yea im trying google been trying its mostly all for linux though
#2335 [15:39] <Justin88> Oh does process explorer do that? i normally used that to close process handles to multi client on games
#2336 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, haven't used that thing in years
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#2338 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Was pretty good, back when I needed to forcably close threads
#2339 [15:40] <Spectob> going to check my java
#2340 [15:40] <Justin88> I know something like it exists cause i Saw it on a product demo of the quad core Tegra 3 Kal-el
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#2342 [15:41] <Mue> could some one help me with hosting a server on my own machine Ive went through several videos and the wiki page cant even see or connect to my own local server via lan address or by localhost
#2343 [15:42] <Spectob> yeah im getting a black screen in browser
#2344 [15:42] <Aion88> http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i202/acdcfreak1988/Error.png
#2345 [15:42] <Aion88> thats all i see
#2346 [15:42] <Aion88> no error report
#2347 [15:43] <Spectob> ok i need to update
#2348 [15:43] <Mue> anyone ? :(
#2349 [15:44] <lemon-rev> Aion88 ok windows / mac ?
#2350 [15:44] <Aion88> Win7
#2351 [15:44] <Mue> windows
#2352 [15:44] <lemon-rev> mue run the server and type !check
#2353 [15:45] <Mue> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.8.1 [WARNING] **** NOT ENOUGH RAM! [WARNING] To start the server with more ram, launch it as "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar" [INFO] Loading properties [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on 192.168.254.88:3074 [INFO] Preparing level "world" [INFO] Default game type: 0 [INFO] Preparing start reg
#2354 [15:45] <Spectob> it says download failed
#2355 [15:45] <lemon-rev> Aion88 do you know how to remove java i wish to see if the java is correctly installed or not
#2356 [15:46] <Aion88> i just reinstalled java
#2357 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Mue - "Starting Minecraft server on 192.168.254.88:3074" That's why
#2358 [15:46] <lemon-rev> Aion88 can you goto minecraft.net and click in broswer after you login please
#2359 [15:46] <Mue> i have to start it on the wan ip
#2360 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> By inputting an ip into server-ip of server.properties, you're telling minecraft to only accept connections from that IP address
#2361 [15:46] <Mue> ohhh
#2362 [15:46] <Mue> let me try it
#2363 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> For most people, leaving server-ip blank makes minecraft bind to all ips
#2364 [15:47] <lemon-rev> ??> Spectob win/reinst
#2365 [15:47] <VoxelHead> Spectob: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2366 [15:47] <VoxelHead> Spectob: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2367 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Which is sufficient
#2368 [15:47] <Spectob> ok
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#2370 [15:47] <Justin88> this is kind of interesting, I hope Mojang will work with this mod group so they can implement quad core usage ,
#2371 [15:47] <Mue> my internal is 192.168.254.88:3074 my external is this 75.88.140.46 :3074 i have it port forwarded to the internal
#2372 [15:48] <Justin88> I was using one that supports up to dual core and i actually see them being used like theyre supposed to be rather then without it =/
#2373 [15:48] <Justin88> Mojang needs more workers
#2374 [15:48] <Spectob> ok ok so i need to deleat everything except my ssaves and reinstall MC?
#2375 [15:48] <Mue> so miencraft has to have the external in the config
#2376 [15:48] <lemon-rev> Spectob yes please give it a go
#2377 [15:48] <Justin88> mue
#2378 [15:48] <Mue> yah
#2379 [15:48] <Justin88> you mean the server-ip= ?
#2380 [15:48] <Aion88> lol apparently i dotn have the java plug in... wierd
#2381 [15:48] <Mue> yah
#2382 [15:49] <Justin88> leave it blank and then try it Ill test it and try to connect to you
#2383 [15:49] <Aion88> i got er going
#2384 [15:49] <Justin88> mine works and i leave it blank
#2385 [15:49] <Mue> ok
#2386 [15:49] <Justin88> I had 13 ppl on it yesterday
#2387 [15:49] <Mue> 1 min
#2388 [15:49] <Justin88> k
#2389 [15:50] <Mue> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.8.1 [WARNING] **** NOT ENOUGH RAM! [WARNING] To start the server with more ram, launch it as "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar" [INFO] Loading properties [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:3074 [INFO] Preparing level "world" [INFO] Default game type: 0 [INFO] Preparing start region for level
#2390 [15:50] <Mue> running
#2391 [15:50] <Mue> 75.88.140.46 :3074
#2392 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Now connect to your server, if you're on the same computer, with 127.0.0.1:3074
#2393 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> (don't know why you're going with a non-standard port
#2394 [15:52] <Mue> woot i see it
#2395 [15:52] <Mue> can you see it
#2396 [15:52] <Mue> 75.88.140.46:3074
#2397 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Let others connect with your.public.ip.address:3074
#2398 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> !check 75.88.140.46:3074
#2399 [15:52] <RobinJ24> Oh yeah
#2400 [15:52] <RobinJ24> !check huckcraft.dyndns.org
#2401 [15:53] <RobinJ24> Is there any way I can see who
#2402 [15:53] <RobinJ24> is on without joining?
#2403 [15:53] * GreyVulpine shakes
#2403 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Not without some mods
#2404 [15:53] <RobinJ24> I know one site that shows the users online....
#2405 [15:54] * RobinJ24 checks if the server is on there
#2405 [15:54] <Mue> can anyone see my server? 75.88.140.46:3074
#2406 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Mue - I'm unable to connect to that server
#2407 [15:54] <Mue> :(
#2408 [15:54] <RobinJ24> Yeah Minestatus can do that
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#2410 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you port forwarded correctly?
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#2412 [15:55] <Spectob> ok now i have abigger problem
#2413 [15:55] <Mue> oh says port locked by another app let me try the default
#2414 [15:56] <Spectob> my screen has shrunk
#2415 [15:56] <Mue> uh what was default
#2416 [15:56] <sluggo> i have just purchased an additional account but when i log in it uploads the original account and the changes made are on both user name is it possible to run 2 sepaerate acounts
#2417 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> 25565
#2418 [15:57] <lemon-rev> Spectob what you exeactly mean your screen has shrunk ?
#2419 [15:57] <Mue> thanks
#2420 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Only if you have two seperate user accounts on your OS. Minecraft saves its files locally to the same spot on the hard drive, in the user's profile
#2421 [15:58] <Spectob> well its like the actual screen where all the stuff happens is small and surrounded by black
#2422 [15:58] <sluggo> is that whichever user profile or both
#2423 [15:58] <lemon-rev> Spectob is that via the launcher the exe or the broswer ?
#2424 [15:59] <Mue> 75.88.140.46:25565
#2425 [15:59] <Mue> what about now
#2426 [15:59] <Spectob> no the WHOLE SCREEN
#2427 [15:59] <lemon-rev> hm
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#2430 [15:59] <lemon-rev> Spectob did you have the game running at one stage ?
#2431 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Did you port forward 25565 to your local ip address in your router/
#2432 [15:59] <Spectob> no
#2433 [15:59] <Justin88> cant resolve hostname
#2434 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Mue - I'm unable to connect to that either
#2435 [15:59] <Mue> humm
#2436 [16:00] <Spectob> but i was trying to update JAVA
#2437 [16:00] <Justin88> which means what? he didnt set a static ip correctly ?
#2438 [16:00] <RobinJ24> Which version of mac os is all fuke with minecraft?
#2439 [16:00] <Mue> yah i have it to my internal let me turn the firewall off
#2440 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> It's either port forwarding issues, or some security software like a firewall is blocking the connection
#2441 [16:00] <lemon-rev> Spectob and what the screen goes black after you try and update it ?
#2442 [16:00] <sluggo> i have two seperate user accounts and if i create a world on one it also creates on the other is it possible to run both accounts indepently
#2443 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - No
#2444 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Only if you have two seperate user accounts on your OS. Minecraft saves its files locally to the same spot on the hard drive, in the user's profile
#2445 [16:00] <Spectob> yes and then the java thing popped up
#2446 [16:00] <Justin88> all of them because if you own an apple you should trash it, Steve already did
#2447 [16:01] <Justin88> Oooooooo, too soon ? lol =[
#2448 [16:01] * GreyVulpine pffts
#2448 [16:01] <Justin88> hahaha
#2449 [16:01] <Spectob> hmm brb
#2450 [16:01] <Mue> ok windows firewall if off
#2451 [16:01] <Mue> 75.88.140.46:25565
#2452 [16:01] <Mue> *is
#2453 [16:01] <lemon-rev> Spectob ok so after this java thing pops up what next ?
#2454 [16:01] <Justin88> cant resolve hostname
#2455 [16:01] <Mue> :(
#2456 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Any other firewalls?
#2457 [16:01] <sluggo> can i treansfer one of the accounts to annother pc
#2458 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Yes
#2459 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Minecraft accounts are not tied to the PC they're bought under. There's no DRM
#2460 [16:02] <sluggo> how do i do this
#2461 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Just download the client onto another PC
#2462 [16:02] <Justin88> Eff drm >_> Games for windows live...
#2463 [16:02] <Mue> i have some antivirus
#2464 [16:02] <Justin88> updating during the most critical part of your gameplay, no you cant stop it .. too bad
#2465 [16:02] <Cloud7> hm, what happens if i have 0 food?
#2466 [16:03] <Spectob> ok i know what to do:D
#2467 [16:03] <Aion88> so... minecraft isnt running on browser
#2468 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Cloud7 - Depends on what difficulty you're on.
#2469 [16:03] <Cloud7> searching everyhwere for mushrooms or cows
#2470 [16:03] <Cloud7> but only find sheeps
#2471 [16:03] <Sardonicus> Cloud7, you are hurt.
#2472 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Cloud7 - See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Food
#2473 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Or rather, see http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hunger
#2474 [16:03] <sluggo> so if you played mine craft on this pc under your user name would them changes happen on this user name
#2475 [16:04] <Cloud7> GreyVulpine thanks :)
#2476 [16:04] <Spectob> ok
#2477 [16:04] <Spectob> its good
#2478 [16:04] <Jorre> Stupid house. I keep losing it.
#2479 [16:04] <lemon-rev> Spectob so its working ?
#2480 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Everything single player, is saved in the operating system's user profile, no matter what minecraft user account you use
#2481 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - If you want to distinguish between minecraft user accounts, you'll either have to make a new OS user account, and play the other minecraft user account there, or you can try directing minecraft itself to use a different folder
#2482 [16:05] <Spectob> well im trying
#2483 [16:05] <lemon-rev> Spectob ok, thats kewl, i was just asking man
#2484 [16:05] <Spectob> here we go
#2485 [16:05] <Mue> man i never have this much trouble with hosting other games
#2486 [16:06] <Mue> can ya see it now 75.88.140.46:25565
#2487 [16:06] <Spectob> oooooooooooo i think its working
#2488 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> :ip mue
#2489 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> ;ip mue
#2490 [16:06] <WugBot> IP address of Mue is: 75.88.140.46
#2491 [16:06] <Aion88> does minecraft have good 64bit support?
#2492 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Getting no responce from that
#2493 [16:07] <sluggo> forgive me but what is os
#2494 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> Aion88 - I suppose?
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#2496 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Operating system
#2497 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> Mue - I cannot connect to your server
#2498 [16:07] <Mue> one min here is my ports i show ya
#2499 [16:07] <sluggo> is that possible on one pc
#2500 [16:07] * mr_fribble [mr_fribble@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2501 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Yes, depends on your OS
#2502 [16:08] <sluggo> how
#2503 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Many operating systems can be configured with multiple user accounts. All depends on what you use
#2504 [16:08] <Aion88> would java be screwed up if i cant run minecraft in browser
#2505 [16:08] <Aion88> im still trying to figure out why im crashing
#2506 [16:09] <Spectob> well im opening it up
#2507 [16:09] <lemon-rev> Spectob are you getting to the main menu ?
#2508 [16:09] <Spectob> yeah but i exited and im trying my other downloads
#2509 [16:10] <lemon-rev> lol k
#2510 [16:10] <sluggo> but how would i acheive this
#2511 [16:10] <Mue> what about now
#2512 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Again, all depends on what OS you're using, there's usually a control panel somewhere that'll let you configure system user accounts
#2513 [16:10] <Spectob> gonna be afk while it loads
#2514 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> If you're on Windows, it'll be under the windows control panel, if you're on mac, they have a control panel there..
#2515 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> If you're on linux, depends on what distro you're on.
#2516 [16:11] <Mue> can anyone see it 75.88.140.46:25565
#2517 [16:11] <lemon-rev> !check 75.88.140.46:25565
#2518 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Still nothing
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#2520 [16:11] <Mue> humm
#2521 [16:11] <lemon-rev> mue are you sure thats the minecraft server and is it the uptodate version of miencraft ?
#2522 [16:12] <Mue> [INFO] Starting minecraft server version Beta 1.8.1 [WARNING] **** NOT ENOUGH RAM! [WARNING] To start the server with more ram, launch it as "java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar" [INFO] Loading properties [INFO] Starting Minecraft server on *:25565 [INFO] Preparing level "world" [INFO] Default game type: 0 [INFO] Preparing start region for leve
#2523 [16:12] <Mue> i can see it
#2524 [16:12] <Aion88> btw ill paypal anyone 20$ if they can help me figure out why my client crashes
#2525 [16:12] <mr_fribble> Escuse me, I hope im not interupting, but I having a problem with running Minecraft.Im logging in at the start menu but its not bringing me to the to the place where you start playing.
#2526 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Can you post some screenshots of your port forwarding?
#2527 [16:13] <Mue> port forward says its open
#2528 [16:13] <Mue> ok 1 min
#2529 [16:13] <Spectob> well all my servers are gone... but no matter
#2530 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Namely, your local ip address, and where you port forwarded on your router
#2531 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Could you elaborate?
#2532 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Aion88 - Happen to have teamviewer?
#2533 [16:13] <Aion88> yes
#2534 [16:13] <mr_fribble> eh? Im' not good with computer terms, sorry.
#2535 [16:13] <lemon-rev> Aion88 check your antivirus and firewall to see if its being blocked via those two programs
#2536 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Minddoing that?
#2537 [16:14] <Aion88> private convo me
#2538 [16:14] <Spectob> thnx guys
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#2540 [16:14] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, streaming minecraft for me yet?
#2541 [16:14] <Acid20> hey guyws
#2542 [16:14] <Acid20> *guys
#2543 [16:14] <Acid20> did any1 get a reply from mojang regarding my problem
#2544 [16:15] <TheNytangel> ...?
#2545 [16:15] <Acid20> i think some guys here know what i mean
#2546 [16:15] <Acid20> cause my problem is large and i dont want to explain it over and over again^^
#2547 [16:15] <mr_fribble> GreyVulpine sorry, im not good with computer terms.
#2548 [16:15] <Acid20> *big
#2549 [16:15] <Mue> http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2043/portm.png
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#2551 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Could you please further explain your problem?
#2552 [16:16] <frogaincia> Hi there, minecraft is not updating
#2553 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - What error(s) do you get?
#2554 [16:17] <frogaincia> i just download it but it says nothing that it is verison 1.8. There really are no errors, i can get it running but when i try to create a world it just goes black
#2555 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Mue - I don't suppose you have any other routers in front of that one?
#2556 [16:17] <Mue> nope
#2557 [16:17] <Mue> thats the modem
#2558 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Does that router's status page, contain your public ip address?
#2559 [16:18] <Acid20> GreyVulpine did u get any reply from mojang regarding my ultra weird login problem?
#2560 [16:18] <Mue> yup
#2561 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Acid20 - I don't really get any emails from Mojang.
#2562 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> We're all unpaid volunteers here.
#2563 [16:18] <Acid20> well ... okay then. I know that. It seems u not remember me
#2564 [16:18] <Mue> PPPoE 0/35 75.88.140.46
#2565 [16:18] <mr_fribble> GreyVulpine Ok, well, I Open up the place where I log into the game, ( I downloaded it BTW ) and so I log in. And then i click login and nothing happens. the login popup just goes away.
#2566 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Acid20 - Sorry, we get tons of people through here daily..
#2567 [16:19] <Acid20> Well... but my problem was and is still not solvable. Got that strange : too many failed logins problem
#2568 [16:20] <Mue> any other ideas?
#2569 [16:21] <mr_fribble> GreyVulpine Ok, well, I Open up the place where I log into the game, ( I downloaded it BTW ) and so I log in. And then i click login and nothing happens. the login popup just goes away.
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#2571 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Does your AV have any sort of firewall component to it?
#2572 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Do you get any sort of error log, any files named hs_err_pid?
#2573 [16:24] <mr_fribble> GreyVulpine nope.
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#2575 [16:25] <Mue88> im back
#2576 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Does your AV have any sort of firewall component to it?
#2577 [16:25] <Mue88> lost connection
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#2579 [16:26] <Mue88> yah i just turned something off
#2580 [16:26] <Mue88> thats why i disconnected
#2581 [16:26] <mr_fribble> GreyVulpine OH WAIT!! yes i do I'll read it now.
#2582 [16:27] <Mue88> can ya see it now 75.88.140.46:25565
#2583 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Please pastebin.com the contents of the error report, give us the URL to it so that we may read it
#2584 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Mue88 - Nothing still
#2585 [16:27] <Mue88> man :(
#2586 [16:27] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Does your AV have any sort of firewall component to it?
#2587 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Er, sorry, I just read back..
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#2589 [16:28] <Liraxus> Sucse me, but i'm having trouble looking for a certain Minecraft IRC
#2590 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Mue88 - Happen to have teamviewer?
#2591 [16:28] <mr_fribble> http://mibpaste.com/UQKfcO
#2592 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> Liraxus - Could you elaborate?
#2593 [16:28] <Mue88> yah but i have it turned off via the connection properties
#2594 [16:28] <Liraxus> Last time i was here, someone pointed me towards some IRC that talks about Minecraft mods and helps other
#2595 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Liraxus - Single player or multi?
#2596 [16:29] <Liraxus> Im having a wee bit of trouble with the twilight forest mod
#2597 [16:29] <Liraxus> Single player
#2598 [16:29] <mr_fribble> GreyVulpine http://mibpaste.com/UQKfcO
#2599 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Liraxus - Then you were probably pointed to #risucraft
#2600 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - One moment
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#2602 [16:29] <Liraxus> thats Vulpine.
#2603 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Could you give us a dxdiag? It'll show us what specs your computer has
#2604 [16:30] <Mue88> ill be right back
#2605 [16:30] <Mue88> going to see it restarting some things helps
#2606 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Go to your start menu, in the Run command, type in: dxdiag
#2607 [16:30] <mr_fribble> GreyVulpine What Does that mean? sorry I'm not good with all this computer talk.
#2608 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - When you get the directx diagnostic console open, go to "save all information" and save the file on your desktop
#2609 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Open the file, copy everything inside, and paste it at www.pastebin.com, then give us the URL to it so that we may read it
#2610 [16:32] <mr_fribble> Sorry, how do I open Directx? I'll loook for it but im sure ill find it.
#2611 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Go to your start menu, in the Run command, type in: dxdiag
#2612 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - When you get the directx diagnostic console open, go to "save all information" and save the file on your desktop
#2613 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Open the file, copy everything inside, and paste it at www.pastebin.com, then give us the URL to it so that we may read it
#2614 [16:32] <mr_fribble> ok.
#2615 [16:33] <mr_fribble> lemme seee...
#2616 [16:37] <mr_fribble> GreyVulpine Pastebin says its too large.
#2617 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Try pastebin.com instead of mibpaste
#2618 [16:38] <mr_fribble> okay doing now.
#2619 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> (Have a feeling that computers way too old to run minecraft)
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#2621 [16:39] <Mue> Im back
#2622 [16:41] <mr_fribble> GreyVulpine Yeah my cpu prolly is too old.... How do you use pastebin.com? sorry if my questions are annoying you...
#2623 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Same way you used mibpaste
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#2625 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Just paste the text onto there
#2626 [16:43] <CJROCKS> purchased minecraft but after download only get blank buttons and remaining screen blank when launched. Can you assist
#2627 [16:43] <Mue> try again please 75.88.140.46:25565
#2628 [16:44] <CJROCKS> purchased minecraft but after download only get blank buttons and remaining screen blank when launched. Can you assist?
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#2630 [16:44] <mr_fribble> :( Still too large..
#2631 [16:44] <Sardonicus> :)
#2632 [16:45] <CJROCKS> new purchase download- only get buttons, no labels
#2633 [16:45] <Mue> could someone try to connect please 75.88.140.46:25565
#2634 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Are you sure you're using http://pastebin.com ?
#2635 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> CJROCKS - What OS?
#2636 [16:46] <mr_fribble> Im really sad right now cuz i bought it before i tried it....
#2637 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Works
#2638 [16:46] <Mue> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
#2639 [16:47] <CJROCKS> windows xp
#2640 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> CJROCKS - Please try these instructions:
#2641 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> ??> CJROCKS win/reinst
#2642 [16:47] <VoxelHead> CJROCKS: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2643 [16:47] <VoxelHead> CJROCKS: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2644 [16:47] <Mue> thanks to all those that helped me fix it ;)
#2645 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Mue - What fixed it?
#2646 [16:48] <Mue> learning mode
#2647 [16:48] <CJROCKS> I will try that thanks! Did similar but only deleted the bin...
#2648 [16:48] <Mue> on my firewall
#2649 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Aah.. firewall..
#2650 [16:48] <Mue> lol
#2651 [16:48] <Mue> thanks guy :P
#2652 [16:48] <mr_fribble> GreyVulpine http://pastebin.com/sDYkeCrk
#2653 [16:48] <Mue> *guys
#2654 [16:49] <Mue> ok one more question how do i bump the ram i tried to make that bat file but it wont start the server java file
#2655 [16:49] <Mue> this thing >>>>java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2656 [16:50] <Mue> wehn i put it in a .bat it wont start the minecraft_server.jar
#2657 [16:50] <Mue> *when
#2658 [16:50] <Mue> they are in the same folder
#2659 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Mue - What error do you get?
#2660 [16:50] <Mue> none
#2661 [16:51] <Mue> something flashes quick and closes
#2662 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> mr_fribble - Yeah, as I thought, you have a very old computer that won't run minecraft..
#2663 [16:51] <Mue> but it dont start the server
#2664 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Could you put in "pause" without quotes into the second line?
#2665 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> It'll leave the command prompt window open next tiem
#2666 [16:51] <CJROCKS> VoxelHead - Didn't work, any other thoughts?
#2667 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> CJROCKS - You deleted everything but saves in your .minecraft folder?
#2668 [16:52] <CJROCKS> Yes. The exe link was still on the desktop, is that a prob?
#2669 [16:52] <mr_fribble> Man. I bought The newer game... But maybe I can use someone else's computer. They got one a few months ago.. Thank you for the help!
#2670 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> CJROCKS - No, but did you use any mods?
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#2672 [16:53] <Mue> here is what i have in there java -Xms1536M -Xmx2048M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2673 [16:53] <CJROCKS> Nope, first download after purchase
#2674 [16:53] <CJROCKS> But played the free version...
#2675 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Do you have 64 bit java installed?
#2676 [16:53] <Mue> says java is not recognised as an internal or external command
#2677 [16:53] <Mue> uhh
#2678 [16:54] <Mue> with the pause
#2679 [16:54] <Mue> let me look
#2680 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Then you don't have java in your environment variables, you can either use the full path of java in the path, or attempt to put it manually
#2681 [16:55] <Mue> is there a link that could show me how to do this
#2682 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Mue - what OS are you on?
#2683 [16:56] <Daihak> how do I take spawn protection off so we can break blocks near spawn point ?
#2684 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> CJROCKS - Could you try completely uninstall/reinstall java?
#2685 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Daihak - Not possible without a mod
#2686 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> bukkit has that built in
#2687 [16:56] <Daihak> i c
#2688 [16:56] <Mue> windows 7 pro 64bit
#2689 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Do you have 64 bit java installed?
#2690 [16:56] <Daihak> then how are people playing skyblock in pre1.9 D:
#2691 [16:56] <ronjn> http://www.pr0gramm.com/data/images/2011/10/1318786998308.gif
#2692 [16:57] <Mue> any easy way to check
#2693 [16:57] <almostroot> Daihak: You can modify the distance in server.properties and ops should be able to change those blocks.
#2694 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Yes, check to see if you have a java folder in: C:\Program Files\
#2695 [16:57] <Daihak> any link to a command list ?
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#2697 [16:57] <CJROCKS> I could try :) just a mom, trying to help her kid, don't want to destroy the earth in the process....
#2698 [16:57] <Mue> nope its in the x86 folder
#2699 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> if so, you can change: " java -Xms1536M -Xmx2048M -jar minecraft_server.jar" to read - "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms1536M -Xmx2048M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2700 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> if not, you won't be able to run minecraft with that much RAM
#2701 [16:58] <Mue> will minecraft run better with 64bit java
#2702 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2703 [16:58] <Daihak> view-distance=10 <--- this line you mean ?
#2704 [16:58] <Mue> :)
#2705 [16:59] <Mue> can i just install that over the 32 or do i have to un install the 32 first
#2706 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> You can install both
#2707 [16:59] <Mue> ok
#2708 [16:59] <almostroot> Daihak: I apologize. Looks like the line is no longer there.
#2709 [16:59] <Mue> how does it know what one to use then?
#2710 [16:59] <Jorre> I swear my house just moves itself.
#2711 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Mue - If you use the direct path to the java folder, it'll use that one.
#2712 [17:00] <clarjon1> lol
#2713 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Say you have 64 bit java installed, you can either use:
#2714 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xms1536M -Xmx2048M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2715 [17:00] <Jorre> I've been looking for it for *hours*
#2716 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Or you can add java to windows's environment variables
#2717 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> I could swear bukkit had spawn-protection as a key in server.properties..
#2718 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> I can't find the wiki to that anywhere though
#2719 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Can anybody confirm?
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#2722 [17:02] <[z]2> There is something like that. It may not be there by default though, you may need to add it.
#2723 [17:02] <mib_ltlawf> hello i have a problem with my minecraft
#2724 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> I could swear it was default in bukkit. I don't use bukkit myself
#2725 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> mib_ltlawf - Could you elaborate?
#2726 [17:03] <mib_ltlawf> Can anyone help me here?
#2727 [17:03] <jakster> yes i can elaborate, one sec
#2728 [17:04] <Daihak> so ne1 point me in the direction of a mod so i can play skyblock ;/
#2729 [17:04] <Jorre> I'm - <-- this close to getting that spawn mod.
#2730 [17:04] <Justin88> .seen Justin88
#2731 [17:04] <jakster> Ok, so i bought minecraft and have been playing for like 4 months, but one day i opened my launcher, and pressed logon and it said "cant conect to minecraft.net" and this has happened every logon for last like month
#2732 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> jakster - Redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#2733 [17:05] <Mue> thanks for all the help greyvulpine
#2734 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Mue - Glad we could help
#2735 [17:05] <jakster> i have and it still dosnt work
#2736 [17:05] <jakster> and im on a mac btw
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#2738 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> jakster - Your system's time and date correct? Running any firewall or security programs?
#2739 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> jakster - Are you able to connect to https://login.minecraft.net ? Should say "bad login" if you can
#2740 [17:05] <jakster> yes everything normal. and nothing but the usual things
#2741 [17:06] <jakster> yah it says bad login
#2742 [17:06] <Justin88> Lol i got off earlier grey when you were helping someone and said care to elaborate
#2743 [17:06] <Justin88> and they were like i m sorry i odnt understand computer terms
#2744 [17:06] <Justin88> and then you were like mind doing that? im sorry i dont understand that term lol
#2745 [17:07] <Justin88> I had to go tell my girl , i was like.... he didn't understand the word elaborate and thought it was computer term
#2746 [17:07] <jakster> ya there?
#2747 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> jakster - Yes.. hmm, what security software do you run, if any
#2748 [17:08] <Justin88> he might be looki nup something or have something going on in real life
#2749 [17:08] <jakster> im not sure lemme check
#2750 [17:09] <jakster> how would i know my security software? i dont believe i have anything special
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#2752 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> jakster - Sorry, I'm not a mac person..
#2753 [17:11] <jakster> alright, but i havnt changed it at all, so it shouldnt be the source of my issue. one morning i just got on and that didnt work
#2754 [17:12] <[z]2> Tried the browser version?
#2755 [17:12] <jakster> i did download spout a little bit before that problem arrived, but that has been deleted from my computer and app
#2756 [17:12] <jakster> and browser version never shows up on my mac, just the page but without the little box to play in
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#2758 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> jakster - Usually, Can't connect to minecraft.net means your client cant connect to login.minecraft.net. You can obviously connect to it via your browser, so no DNS issues there. I'm thinking it's a security program that's causing this
#2759 [17:15] <jakster> how do you reccomend i stop it then?
#2760 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> I'm not familiar with mac security programs.. so I don't know where to start
#2761 [17:16] <jakster> i went into system preferences>security>firewall and changed it to set access for specific services and applications. should that help?
#2762 [17:17] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, I'm about to smash my computer because of my internet.....
#2763 [17:17] <Daihak> -_-
#2764 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> jakster - Only one way to be sure
#2765 [17:18] <jakster> it didnt work. my firewall has a log of applications it blocks but it dosnt say anything about minecraft
#2766 [17:18] <Daihak> somone help me make my skyblock map work D: im the serve rhost isn't there some way i can remove block proection ?
#2767 [17:18] <Daihak> or whats the mod called i need ?
#2768 [17:19] <TheNytangel> Daihak, set spawn-protection to 0 in the server.properties
#2769 [17:19] <lemon-rev> daihak sounds liek you just need to either add your self to the whitelist or /op your self in game
#2770 [17:20] <Daihak> server properties has no spawn protection line anymore
#2771 [17:20] <Daihak> ill try th reop thing though
#2772 [17:20] <Daihak> the*
#2773 [17:20] <TheNytangel> Daihak, put in: spawn-protection=0
#2774 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Could swear spawn-protection is a bukkit only thing
#2775 [17:22] <Daihak> line didn't work but oping did ty
#2776 [17:22] <Daihak> must b ebukkit only
#2777 [17:23] <jakster> ok i went to all messages in my log and it says this whenever i try and log on "Note. frequent transitions for interface en0 (10.0.1.4); network traffic reduction measures in effect
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#2779 [17:23] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, then it's a bukkit only thing
#2780 [17:24] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, what does "difficulty" do
#2781 [17:24] <jakster> wait, in console it says the time is 11:59:22 so that is definatly off
#2782 [17:25] <jakster> it thinks its the second of september
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#2784 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> jakster - Yeah, that would be wrong
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#2786 [17:27] <kermi> please help i cant get my game started, i did not get an email and i paid for this game on the 12th
#2787 [17:27] <jakster> nevermind thats something weird. but i think your right with my security software being he culprit here
#2788 [17:30] <jakster> ok i just downloaded minecraft on sisters computer and it opened fine, i think its my client. but ive redownloaded multiple times
#2789 [17:33] <jakster> i matched my app support folder with hers, mine had some weird sytuff, like a leftover 1.8jar
#2790 [17:33] <jakster> ill try and open
#2791 [17:34] <TheNytangel> But..
#2792 [17:34] <TheNytangel> Minecraft ist 1.8
#2793 [17:34] <jakster> fuck
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#2800 [17:38] <onix> I bought minecraft a day ago and did not get a email, and can not plat it.
#2801 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> onix - Call your bank/credit card provider, make sure there's a history of transaction going to Mojang AB for minecraft
#2802 [17:39] <onix> I did that
#2803 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> And, was there?
#2804 [17:40] <onix> no, but minecraft said successful
#2805 [17:40] <onix> transacation
#2806 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft gives that message on either successful or unsuccessful transactions
#2807 [17:41] <onix> it said successful
#2808 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft gives that message on either successful or unsuccessful transactions
#2809 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> If your bank hasn't given Mojang money, Mojang won't make your account premium
#2810 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> You're not going to get minecraft for free
#2811 [17:43] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, fml. http://www.speedtest.net/result/1538741749.png
#2812 [17:44] <TheNytangel> I'm surprised the connection hasn't gotten reset yet
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#2815 [17:49] <Iridium> hai
#2816 [17:49] <Iridium> i know it's not a minecraft related question
#2817 [17:49] <Iridium> but what does No GUI boot mean?
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#2820 [17:52] <lemon-rev> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/enable-hidden-bootscreen-in-windows-vista/
#2821 [17:53] <whidgle> where r the mods
#2822 [17:53] <whidgle> where is modding help?
#2823 [17:53] <almostroot> ??> whidgle mods
#2824 [17:53] <VoxelHead> whidgle: (mods) This channel is not a vneue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2825 [17:53] <VoxelHead> whidgle: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit or #bukkithelp -- Mod creators can also try #mcp-modding
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#2827 [17:53] <whidgle> thank u
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#2833 [18:05] <bluedudex2> hello
#2834 [18:06] <_____> hello
#2835 [18:06] <_____> do you know if there is a way to remove all torches from a map
#2836 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Mcedit -> select area -> replace -> torches -> air
#2837 [18:07] <_____> didn't work
#2838 [18:07] <_____> it crashed
#2839 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> The map crashed? or mcedit crashed?
#2840 [18:07] <bluedudex2> I have the bad video cards error message and it din't do that before the update, what do I do?
#2841 [18:07] <_____> mcedit
#2842 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> bluedudex2 - Update your video drivers
#2843 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> _____ - How did it crash?
#2844 [18:07] <_____> it went through all 112200+ chunks and then said it was converting and then it stopped
#2845 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> May want to either try a different computer, or try doing smaller chunks at a time
#2846 [18:08] <bluedudex2> I don't think I can update the video cards because im at a public computer :/
#2847 [18:08] <_____> I was trying to take some popular creative servers and make them into adventury stuff by removing the torches
#2848 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> bluedudex2 - Then there's nothing you can do
#2849 [18:08] <bluedudex2> :0
#2850 [18:08] <_____> I have no idea how to render it in smaller intervals; is there a way to do that un-manually?
#2851 [18:08] <_____> derp--automatically
#2852 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Select smaller areas in MCeidt?
#2853 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Seems like you're doing a VERY big area
#2854 [18:09] <_____> yeah I just crt-a replaced
#2855 [18:09] <_____> *ctrl
#2856 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, don't do that
#2857 [18:09] <_____> I figured
#2858 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> You can select a smaller area in mcedit.
#2859 [18:09] <_____> I do not really know how to do that
#2860 [18:10] <_____> This is the first time I used mce
#2861 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Um... left most button is the select tool
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#2863 [18:10] <_____> don't I, idk, need to see what I am selecting
#2864 [18:10] <curmet> h
#2865 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Click once to place the starting corner of the select box, click again to place the opposite corner
#2866 [18:10] <_____> if the area is so large how will I be able to do this
#2867 [18:10] <curmet> i keep getting a memory error
#2868 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> _____ - Either you can do it in chunks, or you can get a better computer to do it
#2869 [18:11] <curmet> after 2 mins of gamplay
#2870 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> No other way around it
#2871 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> curmet - What OS are you on?
#2872 [18:11] <curmet> do it in chunks?
#2873 [18:11] <_____> yeah ok; is there a way to select chunks by number
#2874 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> _____- Nope
#2875 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> You need to manually select areas by hand
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#2877 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> curmet - What OS are you on?
#2878 [18:12] <Aion88> hey grey vulpine i gots another Q for you
#2879 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Aion88 - Shoot.
#2880 [18:13] <Aion88> my buddy is trying to use minecraft on his laptop, and its giving him a opengl issue
#2881 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more precise? What's the exact error?
#2882 [18:13] <Aion88> itll randomly lock up and gray out
#2883 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Does he get any error messages at all?
#2884 [18:14] <Wug> lol _____
#2885 [18:14] <Wug> thats the best nickname I've ever seen
#2886 [18:15] <curmet> ever since i got mincraft i have almost no memory with my computer and i can only play 2 mins till it shuts me down
#2887 [18:15] <Wug> Aion88: regardless of error messages, it looks like a driver issue
#2888 [18:15] <curmet> how do i fix it
#2889 [18:15] <Aion88> on my server is said he dropped from software issue
#2890 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> curmet - What OS are you on?
#2891 [18:15] <Wug> curmet: you probably don't have much memory anyway
#2892 [18:15] <curmet> hang on let me check
#2893 [18:16] <curmet> how do i check my os
#2894 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> ?? os
#2895 [18:16] <VoxelHead> os: Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
#2896 [18:16] <curmet> windows 7 sorry
#2897 [18:17] <curmet> i didnt know wat os stand for
#2898 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> 32 or 64 bit Win7? You can check by going to your start menu, right clicking on Computer, and going to properties, check "System Type"
#2899 [18:18] <curmet> 64
#2900 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Try uninstalling java completely from your system, using windows' control panel, and reinstall 64 bit java from:
#2901 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
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#2908 [18:29] <Iridium> so this is what happens when nobody needs help?
#2909 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Pretty much
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#2911 [18:31] * TheBadShepperd goes and makes problems for Iridium to fix.
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#2912 [18:33] <Iridium> well i'm still having problems with this slime spawner that everybodies probs sick of hearing about
#2913 [18:33] <Iridium> i've got them all to one point and i'm killing them with this lava
#2914 [18:34] <Iridium> but the bit i'm struggling with is getting those drops from down there up to the surface
#2915 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Oi.. drops going upwards?
#2916 [18:34] <Iridium> since the building i want to loot from is back in the same direction the mobs come from
#2917 [18:34] <Iridium> piston elevator
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#2919 [18:34] <Iridium> was gonna rig one up to a 5-clock with an on-off switch
#2920 [18:35] <Iridium> i wonder if it'd be easier to move the items to where i want them on the surface first then make the elevator
#2921 [18:35] <Iridium> or i should just stick the elevator where the drops are then water stream them to the collection point
#2922 [18:37] <Iridium> i tried that 2nd method first and i ended up having a wire right next to the lava
#2923 [18:37] <Iridium> then i ragequit
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#2925 [18:39] <Iridium> ah well since nobody cares i'll just have to figure something out on my own
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#2927 [18:40] <Iridium> wow, i found a cheat for solitaire :P
#2928 [18:41] <DreadLindwyrm> what.
#2929 [18:42] <Iridium> alt shift 2
#2930 [18:43] <Iridium> oh apparently it doesn't work anymore
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#2932 [18:44] <monsieurc> hello, can i get help about a server here?
#2933 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#2934 [18:45] <Iridium> possibly, what's the problem?
#2935 [18:45] * |Kiikun| scoots in sliently along the ceiling waiting for the chance to ninja someone
#2935 [18:46] <monsieurc> trying to host a 1.9 server, when connecting it says 'took too long to log in to minecraft'
#2936 [18:47] <|Kiikun|> sounds like its timing out checking the auth servers.
#2937 [18:47] <monsieurc> i can log in from my ip, but the port forwarding address has the issue so my friend cant join
#2938 [18:48] <DreadLindwyrm> It could be your firewall
#2939 [18:48] <Iridium> are you sure he's using your external ip and not your internal one?
#2940 [18:49] <monsieurc> yeh, we tried both
#2941 [18:49] * |Kiikun| is making sammiches on keyboard.. so cant type
#2941 [18:49] <Iridium> lol
#2942 [18:49] <TheNytangel> |Kiikun|, you just did
#2943 [18:49] <Iridium> well have you checked your internal ip hasn't changed since you forwarded your ports?
#2944 [18:49] <Iridium> and also checked your firewall isn't blocking it
#2945 [18:50] <monsieurc> firewall is checked to 'allow all incoming connections'
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#2947 [18:51] <Iridium> well that's all the problems i can think of
#2948 [18:52] <|Kiikun|> And now you just made me open voice resignation
#2949 [18:52] <Iridium> guess i'm not much cop at helping people :P
#2950 [18:53] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: not you :P
#2951 [18:53] <|Kiikun|> TheNytangel: thats was aimed at you >:P
#2952 [18:53] <Iridium> |Kiikun|: yeah well i wasn't talking to you either :P
#2953 [18:53] <TheNytangel> I'll help you
#2954 [18:54] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, |Kiikun| don't want no voice anymore
#2955 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#2956 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> Too bad
#2957 [18:54] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2958 [18:55] <Iridium> anyone know what shade of blue in paint a BSoD is?
#2959 [18:56] <|Kiikun|> I think it is is pure blue
#2960 [18:57] <|Kiikun|> ok.. done mkaing my pb&f s :D
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#2962 [18:58] <Iridium> f?
#2963 [18:58] <TheNytangel> Feet
#2964 [18:58] <|Kiikun|> fluff
#2965 [18:58] <monsieurc> i just dont get it :(
#2966 [18:58] <Iridium> o.O fluff?
#2967 [18:58] <TheNytangel> Iridium, from in between his toes
#2968 [18:58] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: marshmellow spread basicly
#2969 [18:58] <Iridium> wow
#2970 [18:59] <monsieurc> would someone mind testing my server?
#2971 [18:59] <Iridium> they actually make that?
#2972 [18:59] <Iridium> that sounds epic
#2973 [18:59] <Iridium> sure i'll do it
#2974 [18:59] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: yes :D they have fore atleast 2 decades
#2975 [18:59] <Iridium> what's the ip?
#2976 [18:59] <Iridium> not in england they haven't
#2977 [18:59] <|Kiikun|> ;ip monsieurc
#2978 [18:59] <WugBot> IP address of monsieurc is: 80.2.76.62
#2979 [18:59] <TheBadShepperd> Iridium, http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%230102AC
#2980 [18:59] <TheBadShepperd> BSoD Blue. :D
#2981 [19:00] <Iridium> ah thanks
#2982 [19:00] <Iridium> making a new desktop you see :P
#2983 [19:00] <|Kiikun|> o.o; oopps.. 1,9 .. pre 4?
#2984 [19:00] <monsieurc> its 1.9 pre 4 server
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#2986 [19:00] <monsieurc> Sennyotai?
#2987 [19:00] <|Kiikun|> datsa me!
#2988 [19:01] <Iridium> i'm not white-listed
#2989 [19:01] <Iridium> but i guess that means it worked
#2990 [19:01] <Iridium> right?
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#2992 [19:02] <monsieurc> i've just made white list false you should be able to log in
#2993 [19:03] <|Kiikun|> monsieurc: not whitelisted here to
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#2995 [19:03] <|Kiikun|> did you user the command or just edit the properties file?
#2996 [19:04] <emanfman> hello, anything I can help with?
#2997 [19:04] <monsieurc> ok, how about now?
#2998 [19:04] <Iridium> end of stream
#2999 [19:04] <|Kiikun|> monsieurc: not whitelisted again
#3000 [19:04] <monsieurc> hmmm
#3001 [19:04] <Iridium> ^
#3002 [19:04] <emanfman> ok, ping me if you need help
#3003 [19:05] <monsieurc> i've added you, i dont know why its saying you not white listed
#3004 [19:06] <|Kiikun|> monsieurc: restart the server?
#3005 [19:06] <monsieurc> i'll restart the server
#3006 [19:06] <Iridium> i'm in
#3007 [19:07] <monsieurc> awesome, thanks
#3008 [19:07] <Iridium> spawned in the middle of an ocean though :P
#3009 [19:08] <|Kiikun|> same
#3010 [19:08] <|Kiikun|> and i think i got TPed into someones head :P
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#3012 [19:09] <monsieurc> thanks for testing that guys, glad it works, i guess i cant log in via the same way you do...
#3013 [19:09] <Iridium> is there a tool that'll rename my minecraft.jars for me?
#3014 [19:09] <|Kiikun|> monsieurc: just use localhost or 127.0.0.1
#3015 [19:09] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: batch files?
#3016 [19:09] <Iridium> i guess i'll have to learn how to do that then
#3017 [19:10] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: or if you want an mirc script i can do that in like 2 minutes :D
#3018 [19:10] <monsieurc> thanks, will do....if anyone fancies a survival or adventure sometime let me know...time for bed!
#3019 [19:10] <monsieurc> cheers
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#3021 [19:10] <Iridium> mirc script?
#3022 [19:10] <Thrae> Iridium: You want the "rename" or "move" command.
#3023 [19:11] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: mirc = irc client :P
#3024 [19:11] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: also... http://www.marshmallowfluff.com
#3025 [19:11] <Iridium> i use chatilla
#3026 [19:11] <Iridium> chatzilla*
#3027 [19:12] <Iridium> lol fluffernutter
#3028 [19:12] <Iridium> that's an awesome name
#3029 [19:12] <|Kiikun|> indeed :D
#3030 [19:12] <|Kiikun|> and teh sammicjhes are delicious
#3031 [19:13] <|Kiikun|> http://ilovepeanutbutter.com/ <-- the Cinnamin Rasin is what i have :P
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#3033 [19:14] <Feliciana> hi
#3034 [19:14] <|Kiikun|> ellos
#3035 [19:14] <Iridium> i don't like peanut butter though
#3036 [19:15] <Iridium> makes me vomit
#3037 [19:15] <|Kiikun|> fluff & jelly is good too :P
#3038 [19:15] <Feliciana> i have bukkit + essentials + lwc, looking for a plugin which can help me to build fast nice houses or creations ?
#3039 [19:15] <|Kiikun|> ?? mods
#3040 [19:15] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a vneue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3041 [19:15] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit or #bukkithelp -- Mod creators can also try #mcp-modding
#3042 [19:15] <Cruxsky> #bukkit Feliciana
#3043 [19:15] <Cruxsky> oh too late
#3044 [19:15] <|Kiikun|> :P
#3045 [19:16] <Feliciana> ty
#3046 [19:16] <Iridium> world edit is good
#3047 [19:17] <Iridium> damn that's making me hungry now
#3048 [19:17] <|Kiikun|> heheehhehe
#3049 [19:18] <Iridium> nowai! rocky road pie
#3050 [19:19] <Iridium> ok i'm gonna get something to eat
#3051 [19:19] <|Kiikun|> hehe ok :3
#3052 [19:20] <Iridium> nice one, we got some apple and blackberry crumble :D
#3053 [19:26] <Iridium> so if i'm making this version switcher in batch would i want to make 2 seperate files?
#3054 [19:26] <Iridium> one for 1.8.1 and the other for 1.9 pre 4
#3055 [19:27] <Iridium> or could i have one file that'll toggle them
#3056 [19:27] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: you only swapping 2 files?
#3057 [19:27] <Iridium> yeah
#3058 [19:28] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: http://kiichan.is-a-geek.net/minecraft/fixes/mcswap.bat jus rewrite it back to rename files
#3059 [19:28] <|Kiikun|> guy i made it for was a PITA that wanted entirely seprate minecraft folders :/
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#3061 [19:29] <Iridium> pita?
#3062 [19:29] <|Kiikun|> pain in the ass :P
#3063 [19:29] <almostroot> |Kiikun|: Too much C has made me cringe at seeing a GOTO. ;P
#3064 [19:29] <Iridium> ohh
#3065 [19:30] <Iridium> just worked that one out :P
#3066 [19:30] <|Kiikun|> almostroot: agreed.. but this is a batch file... dont know batch-ifs
#3067 [19:30] <Thrae> GOTO makes me remember my GWBasic days
#3068 [19:31] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: actually.. rewriting it back myself. 2 mins
#3069 [19:32] <Iridium> ah ok thanks
#3070 [19:32] <Iridium> |Kiikun|: btw i noticed that site says kiichan... you got some gender issues going on there? :P
#3071 [19:32] <Scott> WHY DO YOU CARE?
#3072 [19:33] <|Kiikun|> :D i got yelled at for it here :P
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#3074 [19:33] * |Kiikun| is too big a fan of Ranma 1/2
#3074 [19:33] <Iridium> i was only curious, no need to cockslap me scott
#3075 [19:33] <Scott> If I did that, you would know. :)
#3076 [19:33] <Iridium> oh capslock*
#3077 [19:34] <Iridium> i'm not actually dyslexic i just find that an appropriate anogram
#3078 [19:34] * |Kiikun| tests
#3078 [19:35] <Scott> How long do you think until the crazy dog figures out I'm outside and tries to jump over the fence to eat me?
#3079 [19:35] <almostroot> Iridium: Cockslap is not an anagram of capslock.
#3080 [19:35] <TheBadShepperd> I give it four, five minutes at most.
#3081 [19:35] <Iridium> yeah it is...
#3082 [19:35] <Scott> almostroot would know.
#3083 [19:35] <Iridium> isn't it?
#3084 [19:35] <almostroot> Iridium: Count the letters.
#3085 [19:35] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: http://kiichan.is-a-geek.net/minecraft/fixes/mcswapfiles.bat
#3086 [19:36] <Iridium> cockslap 8 capslock 8
#3087 [19:36] <almostroot> My cock is much bigger than caps lock. ;P
#3088 [19:36] <Scott> Still no dog.
#3089 [19:36] <Scott> I am surprised!
#3090 [19:36] * almostroot thinks that setup took too long, but feels it was worth it.
#3090 [19:37] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: name the multiplayer on as minecraft.smp.jar and leave the other minecraft.jar
#3091 [19:37] <Iridium> |Kiikun|: oh i was going for a version switcher
#3092 [19:38] <Iridium> i'll just modify this a little
#3093 [19:38] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: your swapping 2 different jars, correct?
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#3095 [19:38] <Iridium> yeah
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#3097 [19:38] <ar09876> hello?
#3098 [19:38] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: it does that :P
#3099 [19:38] <|Kiikun|> just make sure you rename all instances in the bat
#3100 [19:38] <ar09876> i tried to purchase MC
#3101 [19:38] <Iridium> |Kiikun|: great, thanks alot
#3102 [19:38] <mib_91rle2> hey im having trouble with my server program, who can help, please tag your responses
#3103 [19:38] <ar09876> and it needed my cell number
#3104 [19:39] <ar09876> and i haven't gotten the sms yet
#3105 [19:39] <mib_91rle2> click resend
#3106 [19:39] <ar09876> i did
#3107 [19:39] <ar09876> around 23 hours ago
#3108 [19:39] <mib_91rle2> try it again
#3109 [19:39] <Cruxsky> it might be backed up... nvm
#3110 [19:39] <ar09876> i can't
#3111 [19:40] <|Kiikun|> ar09876: thats moneybookers askign so they can confirm your identity or something... ive seen atleast 4 other people coming in here with the same issue as you
#3112 [19:40] <ar09876> ok.
#3113 [19:40] <ar09876> has it already taken my money, or is it wantimg me to confirm the payment?
#3114 [19:41] <ar09876> *waiting
#3115 [19:41] <Scott> ar09876: Who is your carrier?
#3116 [19:41] <|Kiikun|> ar09876: im not sure of a solution besidews trying a different payment method. and it shouldnt take ytour money yet if theyre askign for you to confirm it that way. you can always check with the bank first
#3117 [19:41] <ar09876> ok
#3118 [19:41] <ar09876> thanks
#3119 [19:41] <ar09876> and will it time out?
#3120 [19:42] <ar09876> if i did end up getting the sms, would i be able to enter it, or will it be timed out?
#3121 [19:42] <mib_91rle2> who can help me with my server?????
#3122 [19:42] <|Kiikun|> Scott: i take it theres a carrier that blocks moneybookers?
#3123 [19:42] <ar09876> hrm...
#3124 [19:42] <ar09876> i have att
#3125 [19:42] <|Kiikun|> mib_91rle2: you didnt describe a problem.
#3126 [19:42] <Scott> |Kiikun|: They could use the email to sms gateways.
#3127 [19:42] <Scott> like 1112223333@txt.att.net
#3128 [19:42] <|Kiikun|> oooh
#3129 [19:43] <Scott> They are notoriously backed up and take forever.
#3130 [19:43] <ar09876> ok. how long should it take?
#3131 [19:44] <Scott> I have no idea.
#3132 [19:44] <Scott> I have not used those in many years.
#3133 [19:44] <emanfman> hi mib
#3134 [19:44] <seang96> mib_91rle2: i might be able to help
#3135 [19:44] <emanfman> i can try
#3136 [19:44] <ar09876> ok, thanks.
#3137 [19:44] <Nboy> Scott can you help me with my server, i really need help
#3138 [19:44] <Scott> Nowadays, everyone has push email on their phone.
#3139 [19:44] <Iridium> |Kiikun|: should i change the 'if not exist' to 'if exist'
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#3141 [19:45] <ar09876> thanks for the help!
#3142 [19:45] <Iridium> because if the 1.8.1 file is there that means it'll be in 1.9 mode
#3143 [19:45] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: it works by finding which one ISNT there and asuming the other one IS.
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#3145 [19:45] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: basicly.. to prevent renaming errors.
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#3147 [19:46] <Nboy> iridium can you help me?
#3148 [19:46] <guest-816757-93628> Hello
#3149 [19:46] <Iridium> Nboy: i can try but i doubt i'll be much good, what's the problem?
#3150 [19:46] <|Kiikun|> ??> Nboy smp/serversetup
#3151 [19:46] <VoxelHead> Nboy: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#3152 [19:46] <VoxelHead> Nboy: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#3153 [19:46] <|Kiikun|> guest-816757-93628: hi :P
#3154 [19:46] <emanfman> so mib
#3155 [19:47] <guest-816757-93628> Does anybody here use linux?
#3156 [19:47] <Nboy> iridium no one but my self can access my server, why
#3157 [19:47] <|Kiikun|> ;ip Nboy
#3158 [19:47] <WugBot> IP address of Nboy is: 67.182.197.102
#3159 [19:47] <|Kiikun|> !check 67.182.197.102
#3160 [19:47] <Iridium> have you forwarded your ports?
#3161 [19:47] <Iridium> and are you sure your firewall isn't blocking it?
#3162 [19:47] <Auv5> guest-816757-93628, Yes.
#3163 [19:48] <|Kiikun|> guest-816757-93628: some of us do. ive been poking my nose at gentoo for my web/file/wetfifl-server
#3164 [19:48] <emanfman> !check
#3165 [19:48] <guest-816757-93628> I'm running ubuntu, but I only know basic stuff.
#3166 [19:48] <emanfman> hm
#3167 [19:48] <guest-816757-93628> I tried installing 1.9 but it doesn't work
#3168 [19:48] <guest-816757-93628> It still loads as 1.8.
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#3171 [19:49] <emanfman> ok
#3172 [19:49] <emanfman> so that works
#3173 [19:49] <emanfman> force update guest
#3174 [19:49] <|Kiikun|> guest-816757-93628: you put the 1.9 minecraft.jar into ~/.minecraft/bin/ ?
#3175 [19:49] <emanfman> and then try installing it again
#3176 [19:49] <guest-816757-93628> k brb
#3177 [19:51] * |Kiikun| resumes contruction in SpaceChem!
#3177 [19:51] <Nboy> iridium what are forwarded ports, and yes im sure my fire wall isnt blocking it
#3178 [19:52] <Iridium> http://portforward.com/english/applications/port_forwarding/Minecraft_Server/Minecraft_Serverindex.htm
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#3180 [19:52] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: !!
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#3182 [19:52] <Iridium> what?
#3183 [19:52] * |Kiikun| aliases!
#3183 [19:53] <|Kiikun|> didnt know you coudl start with the app and then go to router
#3184 [19:53] <Iridium> yeah apparently so
#3185 [19:53] <Iridium> i thought you were about to tell me off for linking that :P
#3186 [19:54] <|Kiikun|> no! *gives iri props!*
#3187 [19:54] <Iridium> yay! i feel helpful now :D
#3188 [19:54] <Iridium> usually i try to help and don't do so well at it
#3189 [19:55] <Nboy> iridium although it was an interesting link, im not sure what it has to do with my problem, is there anything else i could try, or could you recommend me to?
#3190 [19:56] <[L]> So to be sure, you HAVE to make a new map to get any new updated blocks/items right? Say a new ore = Generating a new map or more chunks to get these blocks generated? Will //regen work with this or some other program to keep the map and generate things properly?
#3191 [19:56] <|Kiikun|> Nboy: that has everything to do with your problem. what kind of router do you have?
#3192 [19:56] <Nboy> iridium ,define router
#3193 [19:57] <Nboy> iridium , i have a moden, and a splitter
#3194 [19:57] <Iridium> Nboy: A device that forwards data packets to parts of a computer network.
#3195 [19:57] <guest-816757-93628> What do you mean reinstall?
#3196 [19:57] <|Kiikun|> Nboy: the device between your computer and modem (or sometimes PART of the modem) that lets multiple computers connect to one internet connection
#3197 [19:57] <Nboy> iridium , 10/100m Router by dynex
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#3199 [19:58] <|Kiikun|> [L]: i thought //regen would completely regen the chunk?
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#3201 [19:58] <|Kiikun|> Nboy: and what model router?
#3202 [19:58] <[L]> Would it fix any new updated terrain?
#3203 [19:59] <Nboy> iridium what do you mean?
#3204 [19:59] <|Kiikun|> [L]: i figure it would recreate it with whatever teh current code woudl make fresh
#3205 [20:00] <|Kiikun|> Nboy: im not Iridium :P and is it a DX-E401 DX-E402 or what?
#3206 [20:01] <|Kiikun|> .... lol
#3207 [20:02] <almostroot> I may have just killed WugBot. >>.;;
#3208 [20:02] <|Kiikun|> almostroot: what did you do...
#3209 [20:02] <almostroot> USed the help feature?
#3210 [20:02] <|Kiikun|> lol.
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#3212 [20:03] <Nboy> iridium ,can't get to the model number, but let me try something
#3213 [20:03] * |Kiikun| throws up hands
#3213 [20:03] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: apparently he wants you to help him.
#3214 [20:04] <|Kiikun|> ... rofl
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#3216 [20:04] <Nboy> or you [Kiikun] either or it really doesn't matter to me
#3217 [20:05] <Iridium> ahh
#3218 [20:05] <Iridium> for some reason this thing is acting like i've got shift held down
#3219 [20:05] <Iridium> oh now it isn't, :P
#3220 [20:06] <|Kiikun|> Nboy: im going to asume you have one of the other 2 since you dont know the router model... http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dynex/DX-NRUTER/Minecraft_Server.htm
#3221 [20:06] <|Kiikun|> Nboy: follow those instructions. if you dont know your local IP, we can instruct in helping find it
#3222 [20:08] <Iridium> Nboy: if 192.168.1.1 doesn't work like it says in the guide try 192.168.2.1 or 192.168.0.1
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#3224 [20:08] <FR4UDUL3NT> I deleted my .minecraft folder after a mod broke it, but now every time I try to re-download it I get a "Fatal Error Occured (4): connection reset" error. What should I do?
#3225 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Try disabling your AV/firewall
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#3227 [20:09] <emanfman> or
#3228 [20:09] <emanfman> you could "force update"
#3229 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Force update basically does the same thing as deleting the .bin folder in .minecraft
#3230 [20:10] <mohawk> I am unable to run minecraft. I am on a mac and using 1.8. Somehow I managed to close minecraft but the little glowing dot is underneath my icon. I am unable to close or open it any other way. I cant shut down my computer either. Please help
#3231 [20:10] * reedlepee [reedlepee@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3232 [20:10] <reedlepee> hello?
#3233 [20:10] * emanfman|mibbit [emanfman|mibbit@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3234 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Open up your terminal, "ps" to list processes, "kill -9 pid" to kill it
#3235 [20:11] <Netti> mohawk: What have you used so far?
#3236 [20:11] <reedlepee> can someone help me
#3237 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - Only if you tell us with what
#3238 [20:11] <mohawk> what do you mean what have I used so far?
#3239 [20:11] <mohawk> netti
#3240 [20:11] <emanfman> mohawk, use the force quit menu
#3241 [20:11] <Netti> Nevermind that, GreyVulpine's got it right. :P
#3242 [20:11] <reedlepee> my minecraft ;lags so bad i cant play
#3243 [20:11] <mohawk> ok lemme try that
#3244 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - Has it always lagged?
#3245 [20:12] <reedlepee> yes
#3246 [20:12] <emanfman> reedlepee try a new computer :P
#3247 [20:12] <emanfman> how much ram do you have?
#3248 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - Have you tried turning down the graphics options in minecraft?
#3249 [20:12] <reedlepee> i just downloaded it on my laptop today
#3250 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - Most likely, your laptop's not powerful enough to run minecraft smoothly
#3251 [20:12] <mohawk> GreyVulpine's this is what i got-bash: kill: pid: arguments must be process or job IDs
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#3253 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> But, try turning down the draw distance in minecraft, turn perfomance from fancy to fast
#3254 [20:13] <emanfman> mhm
#3255 [20:13] <FR4UDUL3NT> I just disabled my firewall, the same thing happened the first time I tried it ("Fatal Error Occured (4): connection reset").
#3256 [20:13] <emanfman> mohawk i think its just a bug
#3257 [20:13] <reedlepee> well its all i got is there a way to make it run playable?
#3258 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Did you "ps" in the terminal?
#3259 [20:13] <emanfman> does it show up in the force quit menu?
#3260 [20:13] <mohawk> yes
#3261 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Do you see an entry for Java?
#3262 [20:13] <mohawk> after i did ps this is what showed up PID TTY TIME CMD 521 ttys000 0:00.00 -bash
#3263 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Then minecraft isn't running..
#3264 [20:14] <mohawk> sorry what entry for Java?
#3265 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Try ps -a
#3266 [20:14] <reedlepee> is there a way to make my minecraft playable on my minecraft?
#3267 [20:14] <emanfman> ?
#3268 [20:14] <FR4UDUL3NT> ._.
#3269 [20:14] <Netti> reedlepee: .. what?
#3270 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - try turning down the draw distance in minecraft, turn perfomance from fancy to fast. Turn advanced openGL to off
#3271 [20:15] <emanfman> reedleepee... no comment
#3272 [20:15] <reedlepee> k
#3273 [20:15] <reedlepee> i have 4 fps now
#3274 [20:15] <Nboy> iridium, i have my local ip, but when i try to contact my router, it requests a username and password, what do i do??? HELP!!!!!
#3275 [20:15] <mohawk> this is what I got when i typed in ps - a PID TTY TIME CMD 529 ttys000 0:00.01 login -pf paulthebeast 530 ttys000 0:00.00 -bash 533 ttys000 0:00.00 ps -a
#3276 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> nboy, try admin/admin
#3277 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> mohawk - Minecraft isn't running then
#3278 [20:15] <FR4UDUL3NT> I just disabled my firewall, the same thing happened the first time I tried it ("Fatal Error Occured (4): connection reset").
#3279 [20:15] <Iridium> Nboy: that site should list the default user and password
#3280 [20:15] <emanfman> turn your render distance to tiny reedleepee
#3281 [20:16] <mohawk> i can assure you it has the little glowing dot under it and i can't open it
#3282 [20:16] <reedlepee> i have 4 fps now its not good
#3283 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> reedlepee - Then your laptop's not good enough for minecraft. There's nothing you can do
#3284 [20:16] <reedlepee> can i make it faster by downloading something
#3285 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> No.
#3286 [20:16] <emanfman> mohawk, do you know how to force quit?
#3287 [20:16] <mohawk> isnt it command q
#3288 [20:16] <emanfman> Hm. I am not on a mac atm... im not sure
#3289 [20:17] <emanfman> but do this
#3290 [20:17] <mohawk> ok
#3291 [20:17] <emanfman> click the apple logo in the top left
#3292 [20:17] <emanfman> force quit should be an option in the menu
#3293 [20:17] <Netti> cmd-alt-escape is force quit, but kill -9 pid is also fine
#3294 [20:17] <reedlepee> another thing i want to go to third person mode but whenever i press F5 or what ever it is i get a brightness change
#3295 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Apparently java isn't running as a process at all on that computer
#3296 [20:17] <emanfman> i just want to see if minecraft is in the list of running apps
#3297 [20:17] <mohawk> aha that did the trick. thank you SOO much emanfman!!!!!!
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#3299 [20:17] <emanfman> np
#3300 [20:17] <Netti> GreyVulpine: I notice that a few programs running on my personal Mac won't display with ps -a, but will with ps -e and ps -ae. It may be.
#3301 [20:18] <Iridium> Nboy: try leaving both of them blank, and try admin for both
#3302 [20:18] <emanfman> teehee
#3303 [20:18] <mib_k26v11> hello
#3304 [20:18] <emanfman> terminal just isnt my thing
#3305 [20:18] <Iridium> Nboy: it'll be one of those 2 unless somebody else in your house has changed them
#3306 [20:18] <mib_k26v11> i need HELP
#3307 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Netti - Good to know, thanks. Not a mac person
#3308 [20:18] <Netti> -e is equivalent to -A
#3309 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_k26v11 - With WHAT
#3310 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Netti - Aah, gotcha
#3311 [20:18] <Netti> had to bring up man page. :P
#3312 [20:18] <mib_k26v11> MY GAME ISNT WORKING
#3313 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> mib_k26v11 - WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT
#3314 [20:18] <emanfman> mib, i will help you
#3315 [20:18] <Netti> mib_k26v11: Caps lock off, please. :<
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#3317 [20:18] <emanfman> -_-
#3318 [20:19] <mib_k26v11> it keeps lagging do u know how to get rid of it
#3319 [20:19] <Netti> Sure.
#3320 [20:19] <emanfman> opengl off
#3321 [20:19] <emanfman> graphics fast
#3322 [20:19] <emanfman> render distance tiny and that should do it
#3323 [20:19] <Netti> Put the thing with flashing lights into a box and put it in the dump. It's making you lag. :)
#3324 [20:19] <mib_k26v11> kk let me try one sec
#3325 [20:20] <emanfman> i hope he's trying MY suggestion...
#3326 [20:20] <mib_wr1k67> in my minecraft i want to go to third person mode
#3327 [20:20] <mib_wr1k67> how do i do tht
#3328 [20:20] <Netti> F5.
#3329 [20:20] <emanfman> press f5
#3330 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Press F5
#3331 [20:20] <emanfman> lol
#3332 [20:20] <Iridium> f5
#3333 [20:20] <emanfman> too many people
#3334 [20:20] <Netti> So? XD
#3335 [20:20] <emanfman> HE KNOWS!
#3336 [20:20] <Nboy> iridium im in but the info on the site is outdated, what now?
#3337 [20:20] <emanfman> sorry for caps
#3338 [20:20] <Netti> Means you can't miss it. :P
#3339 [20:20] <mib_wr1k67> i did it changed my laptop brightness
#3340 [20:20] <emanfman> ah
#3341 [20:20] <Iridium> Nboy: that's probably because the page is for a different model
#3342 [20:20] <emanfman> he uses a mac...
#3343 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> fn-f5?
#3344 [20:20] <nigh7> why i cant connect to minecraft.net anymore =/ im getting this for almost a month
#3345 [20:21] <Iridium> Nboy: you should have an option called port forwarding or port triggering is osmething like that
#3346 [20:21] <Netti> emanfman: not necessarily
#3347 [20:21] <mib_wr1k67> how do i press F5 on my laptop
#3348 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> nigh7 - What operating system? Your system date and time up to date?
#3349 [20:21] <emanfman> !paid nigh7
#3350 [20:21] <Netti> Any laptop that uses f5 as a lights.
#3351 [20:21] <Nboy> try holding down the "fn" button while pressing the "f5" key
#3352 [20:21] <Netti> mib_wr1k67: FN + a function key will let you use the function key as a function key.
#3353 [20:21] <nigh7> win7 all updated
#3354 [20:21] <Netti> FN + F1-F12
#3355 [20:21] <mib_wr1k67> wheres FN
#3356 [20:22] <Netti> Bottom left, if it's a Macbook.
#3357 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> nigh7 - Your System's time and date correct? Has it worked before?
#3358 [20:22] <emanfman> mib, what computer are you using
#3359 [20:22] <Nboy> iridium, i do what do i do with it?
#3360 [20:22] <mib_wr1k67> dell
#3361 [20:22] <Netti> If it's not- anywhere. Look for it.
#3362 [20:22] <emanfman> ouch
#3363 [20:22] <emanfman> is it a laptop?
#3364 [20:22] <Netti> Just look for the fn key :)
#3365 [20:22] <mib_wr1k67> ohhhhh i see it thnks
#3366 [20:22] <Iridium> Nboy: you'll want to click that and then click the button that says add new
#3367 [20:22] <mib_k26v11> WHO EVER HELPED ME THANK YOU SO MUCH!
#3368 [20:22] <nigh7> yea it is correct, i was login in 1.7 and in the first days of 1.8 w/o problems
#3369 [20:22] <emanfman> i tried...
#3370 [20:22] <Netti> Did you throw out the thing making you lag yet?
#3371 [20:22] <Nboy> iridium, what now
#3372 [20:23] <emanfman> mib, was it my suggestions?
#3373 [20:23] <mib_k26v11> YES I DID THANKS!
#3374 [20:23] <Netti> Darn.
#3375 [20:23] <Iridium> Nboy: then in the port section type 25565, the ip address will be your internal ip protocal should be all and status enabled
#3376 [20:23] <emanfman> caps off plz
#3377 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> nigh7 - Have you tried deleting %appdata%/.minecraft/ (saving saves), as well as deleting and redownloading the launcher from minecraft.net/download ?
#3378 [20:23] <Iridium> Nboy: click submit and you're good to go
#3379 [20:23] <mib_k26v11> bye!!!!!!!!!
#3380 [20:23] <emanfman> no problem mob. enjoy your MC
#3381 [20:23] * Netti facedesks.
#3381 [20:23] <Scott> Iridium: For future reference, Minecraft only uses TCP.
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#3383 [20:23] <Netti> Scott: Oh, that's good to know. I never cared to check. :P
#3384 [20:24] <Scott> No need to open another hole.
#3385 [20:24] <Iridium> Scott: that's good to know, but it shouldn't make much difference either way
#3386 [20:24] <Netti> Iridium: It would make a difference.
#3387 [20:24] <Netti> That's an open port.
#3388 [20:24] <nigh7> hm why delete save games? i can enter in offline mode
#3389 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> nigh7 - I mean, don't delete your saved games
#3390 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> If you delete .minecraft, the next time you run the launcher and log in, it'll redownload everything except for your saved games
#3391 [20:25] <Iridium> Netti: well yeah i suppose that's true but i meant for the purpose of minecraft it wont
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#3393 [20:25] <nigh7> hm will try it
#3394 [20:26] <Netti> Not good to let people turn their computers into another resource for botnets and the like, though. :)
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#3396 [20:26] * |Kiikun| doubt having only half a port forwarded even matters :P
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#3397 [20:30] <outofmemoryguy> hey how do i fix the out of memory error on 1.8
#3398 [20:30] <Nboy> iridium what is the common service port?
#3399 [20:30] <outofmemoryguy> whats that
#3400 [20:30] <Iridium> Nboy: i'm not sure, what options do you get?
#3401 [20:30] <Nboy> one sec
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#3403 [20:32] <outofmemoryguy> it says out of memory and plz restart the game in case of corruption to level this could be caused by a bug in the game or not enough space for java virtual
#3404 [20:32] <Nboy> iridium DNS FTP GOPHER HTTP NNTP POP3 PPTP SMTP SOCK TELNET
#3405 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> outofmemoryguy - What OS are you on?
#3406 [20:32] <outofmemoryguy> windows
#3407 [20:32] <Iridium> Nboy: i've got no idea on that one
#3408 [20:33] <Planck> |Kiikun|: It might potentially matter if some other process is assigned that port number
#3409 [20:33] <outofmemoryguy> pc
#3410 [20:33] <Iridium> does anybody know that?
#3411 [20:33] <|Kiikun|> Planck: i ment against Netti's botnet comment
#3412 [20:33] <Planck> |Kiikun|: So do I
#3413 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> outofmemoryguy - What version of windows?
#3414 [20:34] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: each of those services uses a different port.
#3415 [20:34] <outofmemoryguy> i think 7
#3416 [20:34] <Iridium> |Kiikun|: so for minecraft he should leave that blank or what?
#3417 [20:34] <Planck> Minecraft doesn't use a common service port.
#3418 [20:35] <Nboy> Planck which mean what?
#3419 [20:35] <Planck> Nboy: Which mean there should be somewhere you can type in a port number instead
#3420 [20:35] <Netti> Iridium: TCP 25565 or TCP <specify some port here> only.
#3421 [20:35] <|Kiikun|> im not even seeing that option in the router pages.
#3422 [20:35] <outofmemoryguy> ive tried everything possible
#3423 [20:35] <Iridium> Nboy: just leave that option blank
#3424 [20:36] <Iridium> |Kiikun|: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dynex/DX-WEGRTR/Minecraft_Server.htm that page has it
#3425 [20:36] <Iridium> no it doesn't
#3426 [20:36] <nigh7> Greyvulpine thanks for the help finaly managed to log in Oo
#3427 [20:36] <outofmemoryguy> soo do i just like buy another pc?
#3428 [20:36] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#3428 [20:36] <Iridium> |Kiikun|: sorry this one http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dynex/DX-E402/Minecraft_Server.htm
#3429 [20:36] <Iridium> :P
#3430 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> outofmemoryguy - Do you have 32 or 64 bit win 7?
#3431 [20:36] <outofmemoryguy> :(
#3432 [20:37] <Iridium> i've never seen that before either
#3433 [20:37] <Nboy> l8tr people , i maybe back and totally ticked off
#3434 [20:37] <Iridium> he didn't even stay long enough for me to wish him good luck
#3435 [20:37] <|Kiikun|> yeah leaving it empty would be the correct option...
#3436 [20:37] <Netti> Iridium: we'll see him again.
#3437 [20:37] <Planck> I expect it's just a shortcut for filling in the other fields
#3438 [20:37] <|Kiikun|> especially since the page makes no reference to it
#3439 [20:37] <Iridium> Netti: yeah i think you're right
#3440 [20:38] <|Kiikun|> !check 67.182.197.102
#3441 [20:38] <|Kiikun|> :P
#3442 [20:38] <Iridium> that's his ip?
#3443 [20:38] <|Kiikun|> jup
#3444 [20:38] <Iridium> i'll give it a go
#3445 [20:38] <Netti> Might've not started the server yet.
#3446 [20:39] <Iridium> what does it mean when it says it doesn't think it's a minecraft server
#3447 [20:39] <outofmemoryguy> 64
#3448 [20:39] * |Kiikun| sees peoples full addresses when they join/part/quit :P
#3448 [20:39] <Netti> Mhm.
#3449 [20:39] <Netti> Who doesn't? Technically, you always do/can.
#3450 [20:39] <outofmemoryguy> ?
#3451 [20:39] <outofmemoryguy> ?
#3452 [20:39] <outofmemoryguy> ?
#3453 [20:39] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: measn aubot gets a ping reply and the ports open... but the thing responding doesnt respond like a server
#3454 [20:39] <|Kiikun|> i think mibbit might strip it
#3455 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> outofmemoryguy - Please don't spam
#3456 [20:40] <Netti> |Kiikun|: or the server isn't running
#3457 [20:40] <outofmemoryguy> k
#3458 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> outofmemoryguy - Uninstall all java from your system, install only 64 bit java
#3459 [20:40] <Netti> there may not be any program running on that port yet.
#3460 [20:40] <Iridium> |Kiikun|: so you'd get that option if you were running a home server?
#3461 [20:40] <|Kiikun|> Netti: that would mean something ELSE is responding to the port
#3462 [20:40] <outofmemoryguy> k
#3463 [20:40] <|Kiikun|> !check
#3464 [20:40] <|Kiikun|> hmm.
#3465 [20:40] <|Kiikun|> ok i was wrong
#3466 [20:41] <|Kiikun|> !check kiichan.is-a-geek.net:25566
#3467 [20:41] * |Kiikun| has NOTHING on 25566
#3467 [20:41] * |Kiikun| think aubot is borked
#3467 [20:41] <Iridium> lol
#3468 [20:41] <Netti> :P
#3469 [20:41] <Thrae> !check matts-hosting.com:80
#3470 [20:42] <Thrae> !check mc.matts-hosting.com
#3471 [20:42] <outofmemoryguy> hold on i have to close this ill be back
#3472 [20:42] <Netti> gah
#3473 [20:42] <almostroot> AuBot got an upgrade. O.o
#3474 [20:42] <Netti> forgetting a program name
#3475 [20:42] <almostroot> !check mc.almostroot.com:10401
#3476 [20:42] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: That message just means the port is open, even if the packet is later rejected
#3477 [20:42] <Netti> THERE we go
#3478 [20:43] <Netti> it's running fine
#3479 [20:43] <|Kiikun|> Thrae: i have nothing on 25566. its closed and shouldnt even be responding to anything aka stealthed
#3480 [20:43] <Netti> scan report for c-67-182-197-102.hsd1.ut.comcast.net (67.182.197.102)
#3481 [20:43] <Netti> scan report for c-67-182-197-102.hsd1.ut.comcast.net (67.182.197.102)
#3482 [20:43] <Netti> gah
#3483 [20:43] <Netti> clipboard funked
#3484 [20:43] <Netti> 25565/tcp filtered minecraft
#3485 [20:43] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: Double-check -- https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
#3486 [20:44] <Iridium> so what's a wrapper and do i need one?
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#3488 [20:45] <|Kiikun|> Thrae: yeah. all ports from 25560-25569 are stealth closed
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#3490 [20:46] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: Yeah I get that too...double-checking with Kealper
#3491 [20:46] * |Kiikun| kicks open server and rechecks to see only 25565 open
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#3492 [20:48] <Iridium> should i change my port to 25565?
#3493 [20:48] <Iridium> atm i'm using another one because the guide i followed told me to
#3494 [20:48] <|Kiikun|> hmm?
#3495 [20:48] <Iridium> but i'm not sure what difference, if any, that would make
#3496 [20:48] <|Kiikun|> 25565 is the default mc server port. you can change it whenever you want
#3497 [20:48] <Iridium> besides making the ip longer
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#3499 [20:51] <Iridium> i guess just security would be the only reason to change it from default
#3500 [20:51] <Thrae> Or running different versions simultaneously
#3501 [20:51] <|Kiikun|> yeah. less griefers scanning ip ranged fro 25565 ports :P
#3502 [20:51] <Iridium> oh that'd be an idea, having multiple versions
#3503 [20:52] <Iridium> since my brother and mate actually like the nether and want to play 1.9
#3504 [20:52] <Iridium> personally i don't like the nether so i'd rather not sacrifice bukkit for 1.9
#3505 [20:53] <Thrae> Now if you want to change the server off the default port I suggest using MCSignOnDoor
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#3507 [20:53] <Iridium> to set up another version i'd just go through the process i did to make the first server but just change the port and stick it in a different folder/
#3508 [20:53] <Iridium> what does that do?
#3509 [20:54] <squiggy> It won't let minecraft play!?!
#3510 [20:54] <Thrae> MCSignOnDoor is a standalone JAR that runs a very lightweight server which responds to connection requests by any client with a custom message, as well as custom MOTD in the Server List
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#3512 [20:55] <Thrae> Great for maintenance too, when you need to take the server down
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#3514 [20:56] <Thrae> java commandtoloadserver; java commandtoloadmcsignondoor <-- the ; will load mc sign on door if the server stops for any reason, including crashes
#3515 [20:57] <Iridium> ah well since i never have more than just me, my bf and my bro playing i don't think that'd be terribly useful for me
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#3519 [20:59] <Aleksandr> Minecraft, y u no have good sound
#3520 [21:00] <Aleksandr> Seriously though. anyone ever have Minecraft putting out the sound with a phaserish effect on it?
#3521 [21:00] <Iridium> i never enable sound on most if not all of my programs
#3522 [21:01] <Iridium> that's what 1 hour youtube mixes are for :D
#3523 [21:01] <Aleksandr> Well, I mix myself, so ;)
#3524 [21:01] <|Kiikun|> Aleksandr: 'phaserish'? um... nothing in minecraft goes Pew! Pew!
#3525 [21:01] <Aleksandr> phaser Kiikun
#3526 [21:01] <Aleksandr> Not laser.
#3527 [21:01] <Iridium> orly? what type of music aleks?
#3528 [21:02] <Aleksandr> All kinds really Iri. :)
#3529 [21:02] <Iridium> do you do hardcore?
#3530 [21:02] <Aleksandr> as in?
#3531 [21:03] <Iridium> Hardcore techno is a type of electronic music typified by the rhythmic use of distorted and atonal industrial-like beats and samples. The tempo of various kinds of hardcore techno ranges from about 95 beats per minute (Belgian "New Beat" and rave/techno), to over 300 bpm ("speedcore"), with the more popular styles ranging from about 150 bpm to 200 bpm
#3532 [21:04] <Aleksandr> I suppose you could say I do, as I so some speedcore. :P
#3533 [21:04] <Aleksandr> 720BPM though. :)
#3534 [21:04] <Iridium> link please? i wanna check it out
#3535 [21:04] <Iridium> always love finding new music :)
#3536 [21:04] <Aleksandr> I mainly do live mixes :/
#3537 [21:04] <Iridium> oh i see
#3538 [21:05] <Aleksandr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPKydMOt6nk&feature=related
#3539 [21:05] <Aleksandr> what the actual fuck LOL
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#3542 [21:05] <Iridium> nowai
#3543 [21:06] <Iridium> 9 turntables... o.O
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#3545 [21:09] <screaminediott> hello
#3546 [21:10] <Aleksandr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9huSx8rbTkE&feature=related
#3547 [21:10] <Aleksandr> holy crap
#3548 [21:11] <screaminediott> my minecraft sounds arnt working
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#3550 [21:15] <Thrae> screaminediott: Can you elaborate? If you get an error, paste as much as you can to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
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#3552 [21:17] <mib_knusgn> umm... yes hello is there going to be a 1.9 or just a full prerelease
#3553 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_knusgn - Prereleases until minecon
#3554 [21:17] <mib_knusgn> or just 1.9 prereleases
#3555 [21:18] <mib_knusgn> when will the next one be out
#3556 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> We don't know
#3557 [21:20] <Thrae> mib_knusgn: Pre-releases are more about releasing things when they have something to show, not on a schedule.
#3558 [21:20] <Aleksandr> Thrae, could you potentially assistance me in my minecraft sound errors? :P
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#3560 [21:20] <Thrae> Aleksandr: Follow these instructions -- http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#3561 [21:20] <Aleksandr> I already have and the problem is still there.
#3562 [21:23] <|Kiikun|> Aleksandr: theres absolutely no sounds? might be OpenAL then.
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#3564 [21:23] <mib_knusgn> will the full release feture endermans proper sound
#3565 [21:24] <mib_knusgn> and silverfish
#3566 [21:24] <mib_knusgn> and blazes and magama cubes
#3567 [21:24] <Aleksandr> Kiikun, there is sound, it'
#3568 [21:24] <Aleksandr> it has a phaser effect though.
#3569 [21:25] <mib_knusgn> will notch add
#3570 [21:25] <mib_knusgn> whales
#3571 [21:25] <Aleksandr> how are we supposed to know?
#3572 [21:25] <mib_knusgn> and mobs in the swamp like frogs corcodiles
#3573 [21:26] <|Kiikun|> mib_knusgn: doubt it unless hes mentioned them recently
#3574 [21:26] * |Kiikun| thinks biome-specific mobs are a bit of a ways off... but sounds like a good sugestion :D
#3574 [21:27] * Aleksandr thinks bugs should be fixed that have existed since the start of the game.
#3574 [21:27] <|Kiikun|> Aleksandr: what bug?
#3575 [21:27] <Aleksandr> The horribad FPS bug.
#3576 [21:28] <Aleksandr> I fail to see how playing full screen cause cause me to drop 200 FPS.
#3577 [21:28] <|Kiikun|> thats an optimization thing. they lockign the code to optimize it
#3578 [21:28] <mib_knusgn> Full release after feedback and corrections.[60] Most likely before October 18th. [61]
#3579 [21:28] <Aleksandr> can cause*
#3580 [21:28] <mib_knusgn> whats that mean?
#3581 [21:29] <|Kiikun|> context woudl be helpful
#3582 [21:30] <mib_knusgn> i found it on upcoming fetures
#3583 [21:30] <Aleksandr> Know what would be awesome?
#3584 [21:30] <Aleksandr> Less god damn gravel.
#3585 [21:30] <mib_knusgn> ok stackable buckets
#3586 [21:30] <mib_knusgn> will also be helpful
#3587 [21:30] <Aleksandr> Mib, it's a mod.
#3588 [21:30] <Aleksandr> A damn good one at that.
#3589 [21:31] <|Kiikun|> mib_knusgn: it means after they get feedback and fix what they can.
#3590 [21:32] * guest-816966-17000 [guest-816966-17000@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3591 [21:32] <guest-816966-17000> Hello?
#3592 [21:33] <|Kiikun|> hi
#3593 [21:33] <Aleksandr> Kiikun, any idea how to fix the glitch? >.>
#3594 [21:33] <guest-816966-17000> Guh, just read the disclaimer, you can't help with account issues ;_;
#3595 [21:33] <|Kiikun|> guest-816966-17000: we cant fix them but we can point you in the right direction :3
#3596 [21:33] <screaminediott> hay guys im having problems with sound
#3597 [21:33] <|Kiikun|> guest-816966-17000: also.. *gives a gold star for reading topic!*
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#3599 [21:34] <mib_knusgn> say i got a major bug inv glitch -_-
#3600 [21:34] <guest-816966-17000> I'm gonna ask anyway: a month ago my (gift code) account was premium, now it's not. I can't access the site's support section because I don't have credit card/bank info.
#3601 [21:34] <mib_knusgn> dammit i keep thinking im on my server console so i type /say
#3602 [21:34] <Thrae> guest-816966-17000: Did you guy the gift code?
#3603 [21:35] <|Kiikun|> guest-816966-17000: did you purchase it from minecraft.net or was it given to you?
#3604 [21:35] <guest-816966-17000> No, it was given to me by someone else
#3605 [21:35] <Iridium> where can i get a gif of the default windows 7 bootup process? >:D
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#3607 [21:35] <TheNytangel> Iridium, google it.
#3608 [21:35] <|Kiikun|> guest-816966-17000: find out if they got it from minecraft.net. if they didnt, they (and you) probably got scammed.
#3609 [21:35] <TheNytangel> Iridium, that isn't help with minecraft
#3610 [21:36] <screaminediott> hello? lol
#3611 [21:36] <guest-816966-17000> God... Really?
#3612 [21:36] <guest-816966-17000> I'ma try to find out
#3613 [21:36] <Iridium> yeah but it'll certainly be fun the next time i have access to my mates pc :D
#3614 [21:36] <guest-816966-17000> sigh... not now, when the avalanche of games is coming
#3615 [21:36] <|Kiikun|> guest-816966-17000: you wouldnt be the first. had someone in a few days ago that got it from a WOW gold-selling site
#3616 [21:37] <TheNytangel> screaminediott, try reinstall
#3617 [21:37] <Aleksandr> god dammit, minecraft, y u so glitched
#3618 [21:37] <TheNytangel> |Kiikun| will gladly help you
#3619 [21:37] * TheNytangel is busy making industrial diamonds
#3619 [21:37] <screaminediott> i already did ive tried it 3 times
#3620 [21:37] <Aleksandr> Good mod Nytangel. :)
#3621 [21:37] <screaminediott> wait u dont mean download do u?
#3622 [21:37] <|Kiikun|> guest-816966-17000: if they did get it from minecraft.net then contacting mojang shoudl fix it
#3623 [21:37] <TheNytangel> Yay!! 2 of them!!
#3624 [21:38] <Aleksandr> Nyt, do you use the Timber mod also
#3625 [21:38] <|Kiikun|> ??> screaminediott forceupdate
#3626 [21:38] <VoxelHead> screaminediott: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3627 [21:38] <VoxelHead> screaminediott: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#3628 [21:38] <screaminediott> k
#3629 [21:38] <screaminediott> one sec
#3630 [21:38] <guest-816966-17000> I doubt he did. Well, thank you for your help Kiikun :( Have a nice day
#3631 [21:38] <TheNytangel> Aleksandr, no
#3632 [21:38] <TheNytangel> Aleksandr, I'm on smp
#3633 [21:38] <Aleksandr> :O
#3634 [21:38] <Aleksandr> Oh, ew.
#3635 [21:38] <mib_knusgn> how do you find enderdragon in 1.9 prerelease 4?
#3636 [21:39] <Aleksandr> I gave up on SMP about the same time where everyone cut down everything within walking distance and never replanted.
#3637 [21:39] <TheNytangel> Aleksandr, if I want to play industrial-craft with my friends then I shall do so.
#3638 [21:39] <Iridium> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enderdragon
#3639 [21:39] <TheNytangel> 12 more glass fibre cables :)
#3640 [21:39] <Aleksandr> I hope that name gets changed, rofl.
#3641 [21:39] <Iridium> oh nm that doesn't actually say
#3642 [21:39] <Aleksandr> Enderdragon seems silly
#3643 [21:40] <Iridium> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/The_End
#3644 [21:40] <mib_knusgn> people tell me you need hacks to find it
#3645 [21:40] <mib_knusgn> i mean enderdragon
#3646 [21:41] <Iridium> if they're in 'the end' you shouldn't need hacks
#3647 [21:41] <TheNytangel> mib_knusgn, if you watch CaptainSparklez's video, all you need is two class files
#3648 [21:41] <TheNytangel> mib_knusgn, and then you need to r-click with a gold sword to spawn them
#3649 [21:41] * |Kiikun| tests an alias!
#3649 [21:41] <|Kiikun|> narf: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/far+lands
#3650 [21:41] <|Kiikun|> erm..
#3651 [21:41] <screaminediott> the problem still persists
#3652 [21:41] <screaminediott> T_T
#3653 [21:42] <TheNytangel> |Kiikun|, far_lands
#3654 [21:42] <|Kiikun|> screaminediott: no sound at all, right?
#3655 [21:42] <screaminediott> whats the ip for industrial craft?
#3656 [21:42] <screaminediott> yea
#3657 [21:42] <TheNytangel> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/far_lands
#3658 [21:42] <TheNytangel> screaminediott, you need to find a server for it
#3659 [21:42] <|Kiikun|> TheNytangel: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Captain+Obvious
#3660 [21:43] <TheNytangel> |Kiikun|, if it's so obvious, why didn't you type it that way in the first place
#3661 [21:43] <screaminediott> lol
#3662 [21:43] <|Kiikun|> TheNytangel: because i just copied over the alias for lmgtfy
#3663 [21:43] <screaminediott> oh i thought it was a server not something for a server
#3664 [21:44] <|Kiikun|> industrialcraft is a game mod unless im mistaken.
#3665 [21:44] <TheNytangel> screaminediott, you need the mosd
#3666 [21:44] <TheNytangel> mods*
#3667 [21:44] <screaminediott> why would i need mods
#3668 [21:45] <TheNytangel> screaminediott, you don't
#3669 [21:45] <TheNytangel> screaminediott, if you want to play on the server you do
#3670 [21:45] <screaminediott> i actualy dont use mods and this sound thingy is everywhere so even if i play sp i cant hear anything
#3671 [21:45] <mib_knusgn> do they have health bar like bosses do?
#3672 [21:46] <mib_knusgn> will there be bosses in minecraft fullrelease?
#3673 [21:46] <TheNytangel> >.>
#3674 [21:46] <Iridium> can any of us tell the future?
#3675 [21:46] <TheNytangel> I can
#3676 [21:46] <screaminediott> yes
#3677 [21:46] <|Kiikun|> screaminediott: you on windows?
#3678 [21:46] <screaminediott> yes
#3679 [21:46] <TheNytangel> Your future: you will die
#3680 [21:46] <screaminediott> yes i know that angel
#3681 [21:47] <screaminediott> i actualy know how i am also
#3682 [21:47] <|Kiikun|> screaminediott: go into your .minecraft/bin/Natives folder
#3683 [21:47] <Iridium> wow, that's amazing, how do you do that?
#3684 [21:47] <screaminediott> okay
#3685 [21:47] <Thrae> screaminediott: Follow these instructions -- http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#3686 [21:47] <|Kiikun|> and rename the two OpenAL files to somethign else
#3687 [21:48] <|Kiikun|> screaminediott: then try running minecraft again.
#3688 [21:49] <mib_knusgn> how do i get silk touch?
#3689 [21:49] <|Kiikun|> mib_knusgn: wear a silk glove?
#3690 [21:49] <Tangable> how do you get that on minecraft 1.9 prerelease 4?
#3691 [21:50] * |Kiikun| shrugs
#3691 [21:50] <TheNytangel> Topic?
#3692 [21:50] <TheNytangel> No.. that's android
#3693 [21:54] <TheNytangel> 2 more industrial diamonds :)
#3694 [21:54] <Iridium> industrial diamonds?
#3695 [21:54] <Tangable> notch should add a /sethome command to minecraft to make life much easyer
#3696 [21:54] <Tangable> and the /spawn command
#3697 [21:54] <Wug> Tangable: man up and use a bed
#3698 [21:54] <Wug> its what they're there foir
#3699 [21:55] <Wug> see also minecraft isnt supposed to be easy
#3700 [21:55] <Iridium> what do beds do besides sleep off night?
#3701 [21:55] <TheNytangel> Wug, I thought it was to get the monsters outside to go away
#3702 [21:55] <TheNytangel> Iridium, when you die you respawn next to them
#3703 [21:55] <Iridium> oh i see
#3704 [21:56] <Iridium> even if a mod changes the spawn point?
#3705 [21:56] <TheNytangel> And if you sleep in the nether and die in the real world, you respawn where you died
#3706 [21:56] <screaminediott> um yea i followed the instructions and switched the files and its now worse :(
#3707 [21:56] <|Kiikun|> cant sleep in the nether... beds explode.
#3708 [21:56] <TheNytangel> |Kiikun|, SHHHH
#3709 [21:56] <|Kiikun|> or did he undo that?
#3710 [21:57] <TheNytangel> YOU RUINED IT
#3711 [21:57] <|Kiikun|> oh :P
#3712 [21:57] <TheNytangel> Bunch of nubs = bait them
#3713 [21:57] <|Kiikun|> nyt = full troll mode now it seems
#3714 [21:57] <TheNytangel> Yeah, just don't use the !kick command. Seriously, don't
#3715 [21:57] <TheNytangel> *cough cough*
#3716 [21:58] * |Kiikun| uses /k actually :P
#3716 [21:58] <screaminediott> yea um guys you kinda still have someone with a problem that got more serious
#3717 [21:58] <Iridium> never had to kick anyone from my server
#3718 [21:58] <screaminediott> . . .
#3719 [21:58] <Iridium> mainly because nobody is ever on it..... forever alone
#3720 [21:58] <|Kiikun|> screaminediott: what got worse?
#3721 [21:59] <screaminediott> now a shit load of more error messages are present when i log on to the point that it freezes when they are finaly done
#3722 [21:59] <screaminediott> and i did the process corectly
#3723 [21:59] <TheNytangel> My room smells like upsexy
#3724 [21:59] <|Kiikun|> screaminediott: ok did you follow my or Iridium's sugestion?
#3725 [22:00] <screaminediott> yes i did
#3726 [22:00] <Tangable> yeah its really fun placeing about 50 beds in the nether and noobs try to sleep in it xD
#3727 [22:00] <screaminediott> but i cant hear my sound but i can still play
#3728 [22:00] <Tangable> and explodes in there
#3729 [22:00] <Tangable> face
#3730 [22:00] <Tangable> also when did notch make it if you set your bed in
#3731 [22:00] <Tangable> the overworld
#3732 [22:01] <Tangable> and then you die in the nether you get teleportated back to your bed?
#3733 [22:01] <|Kiikun|> screaminediott: you followed both of our instructions?
#3734 [22:01] <screaminediott> yes i did replace the files with new ones from the download link
#3735 [22:01] <|Kiikun|> im not entirely sure you get teleported back to your bed
#3736 [22:02] <Aleksandr> My sound is still glitched. :(
#3737 [22:02] <Aleksandr> sadface.
#3738 [22:02] <|Kiikun|> screaminediott: tried updating java yet? *grasping at straws now.*
#3739 [22:02] <Aleksandr> screaminediott
#3740 [22:02] <screaminediott> link please?
#3741 [22:02] <Aleksandr> Is the sound ACTUALLY on?
#3742 [22:02] <screaminediott> nope
#3743 [22:02] <|Kiikun|> :j
#3744 [22:02] <screaminediott> never has been for 20 days
#3745 [22:02] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#3746 [22:02] <Aleksandr> I mean in your menu, lol.
#3747 [22:02] <screaminediott> nope
#3748 [22:02] <Aleksandr> then turn it on. >.>
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#3750 [22:03] <|Kiikun|> screaminediott: ... you mean uve had it muted?
#3751 [22:03] <Kevin624> can someone help me?
#3752 [22:03] <Tangable> what will lilypads be used for
#3753 [22:03] <screaminediott> its not muted and its on and my sound doesnt work
#3754 [22:03] <|Kiikun|> Tangable: nothing!
#3755 [22:03] <Iridium> Tangable: decoration or building on top of
#3756 [22:03] <Aleksandr> Tangable
#3757 [22:03] <Aleksandr> Lilypads will be for, personal issues.
#3758 [22:03] <Aleksandr> for our lady friends.
#3759 [22:03] <Kevin624> CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME
#3760 [22:03] <Tangable> xD
#3761 [22:03] <Tangable> XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
#3762 [22:03] <Aleksandr> YES WE CAN HELP YOU.
#3763 [22:04] <|Kiikun|> ??> Kevin624 dont/shout
#3764 [22:04] <VoxelHead> Kevin624: (dont/shout) There is no need to yell. The acoustics in here are wonderful.
#3765 [22:04] <|Kiikun|> ??> Kevin624 ask
#3766 [22:04] <VoxelHead> Kevin624: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3767 [22:04] <VoxelHead> Kevin624: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3768 [22:04] <Iridium> what does that ^ q stand for?
#3769 [22:04] <Kevin624> i have mo creatures, more creeps and weirdos, equivalent exchange, and zombes flymod and while im playing it saves chunks then crashes
#3770 [22:05] <Wug> Iridium: quiet
#3771 [22:05] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: mutes them.
#3772 [22:05] <Iridium> i see
#3773 [22:05] <Aleksandr> Kevin, it's because the mods aren't compatible.
#3774 [22:05] <|Kiikun|> ??> Kevin624 mods
#3775 [22:05] <VoxelHead> Kevin624: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3776 [22:05] <VoxelHead> Kevin624: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use
#3777 [22:05] <|Kiikun|> ??> Kevin624 causality
#3778 [22:05] <VoxelHead> Kevin624: (causality) If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#3779 [22:05] <VoxelHead> Kevin624: (causality) Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#3780 [22:06] <screaminediott> but i kinda still have a sound problem ive had for 5 months...
#3781 [22:07] <screaminediott> ive been here before
#3782 [22:07] <|Kiikun|> screaminediott: none of that wall-of-text was aimed at you :P
#3783 [22:07] <screaminediott> D:
#3784 [22:07] <Kevin624> this link doesnt help me
#3785 [22:08] <Iridium> is there not a channel for ssp mods?
#3786 [22:08] <screaminediott> wtf i got the error i got on minecraft while updating java
#3787 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> screaminediott: you had minecraft open!? CLOSE IT x.x
#3788 [22:09] <screaminediott> its been closed
#3789 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: there IS... but weve been asked to stop redirecting there :P
#3790 [22:09] <Iridium> i see
#3791 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> screaminediott: oops misread that. that means it s a java error
#3792 [22:10] <screaminediott> also sometimes my sound works but then my minecraft is garanteed crash in the next hour
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#3794 [22:10] <screaminediott> thats why i have it off
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#3796 [22:11] <lemon-rev> screaminediott if your sound plays up and an hour later the game crashes then its not the sound
#3797 [22:11] <screaminediott> then why doesnt the sound play when i start it up?
#3798 [22:11] <slushie> How come the site won't take my CC info...but takes me to the payment complete screen?
#3799 [22:11] <screaminediott> lol slushie
#3800 [22:11] <slushie> seriously o.o
#3801 [22:12] <screaminediott> they want ur money
#3802 [22:12] <slushie> /sigh
#3803 [22:12] <|Kiikun|> slushie: the 'payment complete' thing is on the minecraft side.. not the payment processor.
#3804 [22:12] * screaminediott is frustrated
#3804 [22:12] <Thrae> slushie: If you get an error and then "payment complete", then it lies, you had an error and the payment didn't go through. Contact your card issuer or bank.
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#3806 [22:13] <slushie> Whats the deal?! Off shore bank account collecting or what
#3807 [22:13] <Demosa> So I have a question.
#3808 [22:13] <Demosa> I was trying to force update and it said 'failed to launch'.
#3809 [22:13] <|Kiikun|> slushie: you ARE makign an international payment (unless you live in sweeden)
#3810 [22:14] <Demosa> Anyone have any idea how to fix that?
#3811 [22:16] <lemon-rev> demosa did it crash or stop loading a file when you tryed getting the force update ?
#3812 [22:17] <Ryladine> Demosa: What exactly is saying it failed to launch? Minecraft itself? Java?
#3813 [22:17] <screaminediott> urg is everyone outa ideas on how to help meh?
#3814 [22:18] <Demosa> Retrieving: lwjgl_util.jar 30% is the last little message it came up with.
#3815 [22:18] <Ryladine> Ahh
#3816 [22:18] <Ryladine> Demosa: Disable your AV/Firewall and try again.
#3817 [22:18] <Demosa> It's in the minecraft window itself, with a long file name that scrolls off the screen.
#3818 [22:18] <Ryladine> Demosa: That file is often detected as a false-positive by many firewalls and AV software.
#3819 [22:18] <Demosa> k.
#3820 [22:18] <Demosa> thanks.
#3821 [22:18] <lemon-rev> screaminediott you asked if the sound doesnt play because it has verry little sound at all you should beable to hear your self dig and whatnot
#3822 [22:19] <slushie> says...Credit/debit card deposits disabled
#3823 [22:19] <lemon-rev> screaminediott music side of things it will play during mornings / sunsets / and midnights / and might mornign
#3824 [22:19] <screaminediott> k lets start from the beginning ima list whats the problem
#3825 [22:20] <lemon-rev> and screaminediott what version of mc are you presently running btw ?
#3826 [22:20] <screaminediott> part one: sound has a 50% chance of not working at all and i get a shit load of error messages when i start up
#3827 [22:20] <screaminediott> 1.8
#3828 [22:20] <screaminediott> also if sound works garanteed crash in the next hour
#3829 [22:21] <lemon-rev> screaminediott ok when it crashes you need to heed what that crash is it could just be minecraft it self erroring out becuase its buggy
#3830 [22:21] <Ryladine> screaminediott: What sort of error messages?
#3831 [22:21] <lemon-rev> ryladine it sounds like hes java isnt installed properly
#3832 [22:21] <screaminediott> uno momento porfavor
#3833 [22:22] <Ryladine> Quite possibly :) But knowing the error message can make all the difference.
#3834 [22:22] <screaminediott> basicly everythings not a valid windows image
#3835 [22:22] <screaminediott> and i gotta check it against something
#3836 [22:23] <lemon-rev> screaminediott well i guess you could always get a chk program to do that for you but then again why, do you have to check i mean just get an av
#3837 [22:23] <screaminediott> basicly
#3838 [22:23] <screaminediott> wait where?
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#3840 [22:24] <screaminediott> can i find ona these awesome sounding programs that check everything for meh?
#3841 [22:24] <lemon-rev> screaminediott a chk program depends if you want to verrify everything that comes onto your system 80% of the net is not ms imaged or whatnot, so whatever your doing isnt going to be acknoledged as windows logo crap
#3842 [22:24] <screaminediott> where please?
#3843 [22:24] <lemon-rev> screaminediott it really depends on what your trying to accomplish
#3844 [22:25] <screaminediott> to get my sound working please
#3845 [22:25] <lemon-rev> screaminediott sorry to ask if you already been asked windows / mac ?
#3846 [22:25] <screaminediott> windows
#3847 [22:25] <screaminediott> windows ex actualy
#3848 [22:26] <lemon-rev> vista / 7 ?
#3849 [22:26] <lemon-rev> windows ex ?
#3850 [22:26] <screaminediott> xp
#3851 [22:26] <lemon-rev> oh
#3852 [22:26] <screaminediott> windows xp
#3853 [22:26] <lemon-rev> screaminediott goto start / settings / control pannel
#3854 [22:26] <screaminediott> k
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#3856 [22:27] <lemon-rev> sound and audio devices properites
#3857 [22:27] <screaminediott> yes?
#3858 [22:27] <screaminediott> next please
#3859 [22:27] <lemon-rev> ok click audio tab / and tell me in the drop down boxes what you can select from
#3860 [22:28] <screaminediott> sounds and auido devices u mean not audio tab?
#3861 [22:28] <lemon-rev> well sounds and audio devices i want you to click on and then theres some tabs you can move about with
#3862 [22:29] <lemon-rev> the other guys on channel has he done a dxdiag ????
#3863 [22:30] <screaminediott> volume sounds audio voice hardware
#3864 [22:30] <lemon-rev> screaminediott yes click audio tab
#3865 [22:31] <screaminediott> k
#3866 [22:31] <screaminediott> did that
#3867 [22:31] <lemon-rev> and from the drop down selections can you tell me what it allows you to select
#3868 [22:31] <screaminediott> k
#3869 [22:31] <lemon-rev> brb
#3870 [22:32] <screaminediott> sound play back sound recording and music playback
#3871 [22:34] <Ryladine> lemon-rev: No, it doesn't look like he has done a dxdiag
#3872 [22:34] <lemon-rev> ok back
#3873 [22:35] <lemon-rev> ok then sweet
#3874 [22:35] <lemon-rev> hm, ok, say your in auido / tab
#3875 [22:35] <lemon-rev> under default device what can you select from the drop down menu if any ?
#3876 [22:36] <screaminediott> sound max digedal audio
#3877 [22:36] <screaminediott> digital*
#3878 [22:37] <lemon-rev> hm
#3879 [22:37] <lemon-rev> ok screaminediott so thats the end of that one, can i get you to exit that for the moment im going to get you to do a dxdiag ok
#3880 [22:38] <lemon-rev> ??> screaminediott win/dxdiag
#3881 [22:38] <VoxelHead> screaminediott: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3882 [22:38] <VoxelHead> screaminediott: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3883 [22:39] <screaminediott> huh?
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#3885 [22:39] <lemon-rev> hm, ok, win key plus the r key
#3886 [22:39] <lemon-rev> is
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#3888 [22:40] <lemon-rev> in between ctrl + alt and pres the r key at the same time
#3889 [22:40] <guacamole> my son's minecraft premium crashes every time he tries to load it
#3890 [22:40] <guacamole> would love help with this or some direction on how to get help
#3891 [22:41] <guacamole> a friend has successfully loaded his minecraft account on my son's computer
#3892 [22:41] <lemon-rev> guacamole try to make sure java.com < java is uptodate please
#3893 [22:41] <guacamole> so it's not the files on the hard drive
#3894 [22:41] <screaminediott> it doesnt work D: lemon
#3895 [22:41] <lemon-rev> screaminediott is that the key with a windows logo on it ?
#3896 [22:42] <screaminediott> ????
#3897 [22:42] <lemon-rev> guacamole the computer your friend got his account to work on is it the same computer your son is trying to play on ?
#3898 [22:42] <guacamole> yes
#3899 [22:42] <lemon-rev> screaminediott what keys are between ctrl + alt
#3900 [22:42] <guacamole> and the friend is successful and my son is not
#3901 [22:42] <lemon-rev> hm
#3902 [22:42] <lemon-rev> guacamole could you please get your son to give you , hes username so we can check it with the database please
#3903 [22:43] <lemon-rev> do not give me your password
#3904 [22:43] <guacamole> anfra8
#3905 [22:43] <lemon-rev> !paid anfra8
#3906 [22:43] <lemon-rev> hm
#3907 [22:43] <guacamole> ???
#3908 [22:43] <lemon-rev> its a bot command it doesnt seem to be working :(
#3909 [22:43] <screaminediott> window key and page thngy with mouse over it
#3910 [22:44] <guacamole> in what way?
#3911 [22:44] <lemon-rev> screaminediott the windows key and the r key on keyboard is what i want you to press
#3912 [22:44] <guacamole> anfra8 has paid
#3913 [22:44] <guacamole> cuz i was the one who paid
#3914 [22:44] <lemon-rev> hm
#3915 [22:44] <lemon-rev> wired
#3916 [22:44] <screaminediott> it opend a run menu
#3917 [22:44] <lemon-rev> guacamole ok can you goto minecraft.net login and click in broswer for us please ?
#3918 [22:44] <lemon-rev> yay
#3919 [22:45] <lemon-rev> screaminediott ok now hit the run command it should bring up a box with a blank line, type in dxdiag and hit enter
#3920 [22:45] <guacamole> on his computer or mine
#3921 [22:45] <guacamole> does it matter
#3922 [22:45] <lemon-rev> guacamole the computer your trying to run mc on
#3923 [22:46] <guacamole> waiting
#3924 [22:46] <screaminediott> okay its doin sumtin with internet and dwnlodin files ^_^
#3925 [22:46] <guacamole> it is hanging right now
#3926 [22:46] <lemon-rev> guacamole is that because you tryed via the webpage ?
#3927 [22:47] <guacamole> gah, i wish we had lync on this system so i could share desktop
#3928 [22:47] <guacamole> he was already logged in
#3929 [22:47] <guacamole> so i just hit home
#3930 [22:47] <guacamole> and it is taking forever
#3931 [22:47] <lemon-rev> guacamole you can share your desktop with hes get a program for both computers called team viewer
#3932 [22:48] <screaminediott> team viewr?
#3933 [22:48] <guacamole> oh well, i'm reloading now
#3934 [22:48] <guacamole> minecraft.net is taking forever to load, does it normallly?
#3935 [22:48] <guacamole> btw, i still have the email saying that i paid
#3936 [22:49] <lemon-rev> guacamole it could do, it depends on your line speed and whoever is on line trying to get minecraft at the same time as you
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#3938 [22:49] <screaminediott> lemon u got this fancy program and i can dwnld it too so itle go faster?
#3939 [22:49] <lemon-rev> guacamole well we can work on that after you have got files that you need
#3940 [22:49] <guacamole> yeah, cuz now when i hit login i get a 500 internal server error
#3941 [22:50] <lemon-rev> hm
#3942 [22:50] <lemon-rev> guacamole all i can ask you to do is get the files you need ie you need to keep on trying i think i can only help you after that
#3943 [22:50] <Planck> Looks like minecraft.net is down
#3944 [22:50] <screaminediott> ima go now and take my problems with me bye guys see ya later i can manage with no sound i gtg
#3945 [22:51] <Planck> (According to isup.me/minecraft.net)
#3946 [22:51] <lemon-rev> Planck i belive you dude :)
#3947 [22:52] <lemon-rev> prob being ddosed or someshit
#3948 [22:52] <guacamole> ok, i will wait and come back
#3949 [22:52] <guacamole> thanks!
#3950 [22:52] <guacamole> oh wait
#3951 [22:52] <guacamole> now it's letting me log in maybe
#3952 [22:53] * |Kiikun| wishes spacechem had a T-intersection pipe :/
#3952 [22:54] <guacamole> ok, lemon-rev
#3953 [22:54] <guacamole> i have run it from browser
#3954 [22:54] <guacamole> now what?
#3955 [22:55] <lemon-rev> guacamole does it run like the game plays ?
#3956 [22:55] <guacamole> i just have a screen that gives player options
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#3958 [22:56] <guacamole> ok, it is running in pumpkin world now
#3959 [22:56] <lemon-rev> lol sweet ok save and exit
#3960 [22:56] <lemon-rev> and get out of the broswer for the moment
#3961 [22:56] <lemon-rev> and try and run the launcher
#3962 [22:57] <guacamole> working on it
#3963 [22:57] <guacamole> ok, it looks like it is owrking now
#3964 [22:58] <guacamole> so it just automagically fixed itself?
#3965 [22:58] <guacamole> it hasn't worked for days
#3966 [22:58] <lemon-rev> guacamole it just made sure you had the nessacery files on the pc from the web broswer to work with the client
#3967 [22:58] <guacamole> huh, ok, weird, cuz it played the other game
#3968 [22:59] <guacamole> but as long as it works, i'm good
#3969 [22:59] <guacamole> thanks
#3970 [22:59] <guacamole> and have a good night
#3971 [22:59] <lemon-rev> np
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#3980 [23:42] <Aion88> software caused connection abort recv failed
#3981 [23:42] <Aion88> anyone have a clue what that normally implies
#3982 [23:43] <lemon-rev> Aion88 sounds like a server connection
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#3984 [23:43] <Tyger> Hello all!
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#3986 [23:43] <Aion88> my end or someone elses
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#3988 [23:44] <lemon-rev> Aion88 prob there end
#3989 [23:44] <Tyger> Mind if I ask for som assistance with my server?
#3990 [23:44] <lemon-rev> tyger
#3991 [23:44] <lemon-rev> ?? ask
#3992 [23:44] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3993 [23:44] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3994 [23:44] <Aion88> ive been trying all day to solve this connection problem
#3995 [23:45] <lemon-rev> Aion88 do you know if anyone else been able to connect to it ?
#3996 [23:45] <Tyger> Okay: I have had a mc server up for almost 3 monhts, and today, all my peers outside my LAN are getting socketexception errors.
#3997 [23:46] <Aion88> tyger lemme guess 30 seconds and they freeze and black screen?
#3998 [23:46] <Tyger> yep.
#3999 [23:46] <Tyger> if they can connect at all.
#4000 [23:46] <Aion88> mines same problem
#4001 [23:46] <lemon-rev> Tyger ok first is your server still running
#4002 [23:46] <Tyger> atm, no.
#4003 [23:46] <lemon-rev> ok
#4004 [23:46] <Tyger> i just shut it down, while i look for a solution
#4005 [23:46] <lemon-rev> Tyger can you run your server having running and in here type in !check
#4006 [23:47] <Tyger> run my server, then in IRC type !check?
#4007 [23:47] <lemon-rev> correct
#4008 [23:47] <Tyger> will it make a difference that my server is on a different comp?
#4009 [23:47] * mib_7wymw8 [mib_7wymw8@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4010 [23:47] <lemon-rev> hm, yes
#4011 [23:47] <lemon-rev> lol
#4012 [23:48] <Aion88> !check
#4013 [23:48] <Aion88> :D
#4014 [23:48] <Tyger> lol
#4015 [23:48] <mib_7wymw8> can someone please help me make minecraft beta work
#4016 [23:48] <Tyger> Okay, i'll install IRC on the server real fast.
#4017 [23:48] <lemon-rev> k
#4018 [23:50] <mib_7wymw8> yah didnt think so.... what a huge waste of money
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#4020 [23:50] <lemon-rev> mib_7wymw8 if you have a problem then state it
#4021 [23:51] <mib_7wymw8> black screen after log in and world load
#4022 [23:51] <tyger2> !check
#4023 [23:51] <lemon-rev> mib_7wymw8 try updateing java
#4024 [23:51] <mib_7wymw8> how do i do that
#4025 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_7wymw8 - Operating system?
#4026 [23:51] <lemon-rev> java.com
#4027 [23:52] <tyger2> Alrighty, ran the check (as you can see.)
#4028 [23:52] <mib_7wymw8> osx 10.5.8
#4029 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#4030 [23:52] <lemon-rev> Tyger can you see if anyone can connect then, your ip could have changed
#4031 [23:52] <mib_7wymw8> yah so i just drained 20 bucks then?
#4032 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> If you'd care to read the topic upon join, you would've realized that 10.5.8 is incompatible with minecraft 1.8.1
#4033 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> And that the issue is addressed in 1.9
#4034 [23:53] <mib_7wymw8> YAH WELL THEY SHOULDA NOTED THAT WHILE I WAS BUYING IT
#4035 [23:53] <mib_7wymw8> wouldnt you think
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#4037 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Because software companies are responsible for testing their product on millions of possibile different machine combinations.
#4038 [23:54] <Adryis> Okay. I have a potentially semi-strange question for anyone willing to try to help..?
#4039 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Also, you were told that this was a game in beta, in heavy development, with bugs.
#4040 [23:55] <Tyger> having someone test the connection now.
#4041 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> If you'd care to read the terms before checking the "I agree" box, you would've also realized that as well
#4042 [23:55] <mib_7wymw8> whatever... fucking ripoff thanks for the "help"
#4043 [23:55] * AuBot kicked mib_7wymw8 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_7wymw8 :Please keep it civil.)
#4044 [23:55] <Adryis> What a jerk.. :(
#4045 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> We get all kinds
#4046 [23:55] <Tyger> lol....
#4047 [23:55] <Adryis> I'm sorry. :(
#4048 [23:56] <Tyger> also... alas, it still kicks.
#4049 [23:56] <Adryis> May i ask a question..? ^^;
#4050 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#4051 [23:56] <Tyger> only I seem to be able to connect, but i am on the local network.
#4052 [23:56] <Adryis> I'm having an error with trying to get the program to run.
#4053 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Adryis - Any error reports?
#4054 [23:56] <Adryis> It's telling me that my video driver or something is bad.
#4055 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Tyger - Could you try a different map, perhaps?
#4056 [23:57] <Adryis> What do you mean by error reports? The one that pops up when it won't run count?
#4057 [23:57] <lemon-rev> Tyger check your ip, please GreyVulpine whats the newish command for ip ! ?
#4058 [23:57] <lemon-rev> !myip
#4059 [23:57] <lemon-rev> oh
#4060 [23:57] <lemon-rev> Tyger try what i just did !myip :P
#4061 [23:57] <Adryis> NIFTY.
#4062 [23:57] <tyger2> !myip
#4063 [23:57] <Adryis> I LOVE YOU AUBOT.
#4064 [23:57] <Adryis> dhgjwag
#4065 [23:57] <Adryis> AMAZING.
#4066 [23:58] <lemon-rev> Tyger ok dude, see if someone can connect to that ip on mc
#4067 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Adryis - Eh, sure. Pastebin.com the error and give us the URL to it
#4068 [23:58] <tyger2> Negative.
#4069 [23:58] <Adryis> New site. Let me try.
#4070 [23:58] <tyger2> allows them to connect for approx 30 seconds. then dc's
#4071 [23:58] <tyger2> one person was able to connect.
#4072 [23:58] <lemon-rev> Tyger are you sure yu have the latest server with the latest minecraft ?
#4073 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> tyger2 - Did you try with a completely new map?
#4074 [23:58] <tyger2> couldn't enteract with the world, died. then dc'ed
#4075 [23:58] <tyger2> yes.
#4076 [23:59] <tyger2> I tripple checked to make sure before coming here.
#4077 [23:59] <lemon-rev> Tyger if one person joined how long can they stay alive for on the server or are they just tesing it
#4078 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> tyger2 - Do you have any security software on the machine?
#4079 [23:59] <tyger2> they can stay connected for about 2 minutes.
#4080 [23:59] <tyger2> nothing.