#1 [00:00] <tyger2> i disabled everything, hoping to solve the issue by process of elimination
#2 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> How about running a fresh copy of the server, in a new folder?
#3 [00:00] <tyger2> tried that as well.
#4 [00:00] <tyger2> tried deleting all the .dat files, and letting the game redistribute them.
#5 [00:01] <tyger2> but that failed as well.
#6 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#7 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Symptoms usually sound like the result of a security software, or a connection problem
#8 [00:01] <tyger2> That was my first thought as well.
#9 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> I don't suppose you're running a firewall like zonealarm or comodo?
#10 [00:02] <tyger2> nope.
#11 [00:02] <JohnEBH> !myip
#12 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> Just that both of those have been known to cause problems, even when "disabled"
#13 [00:02] <tyger2> The only thing that has changed in the last week, is I updated the server OS 3 days ago.
#14 [00:03] <almostroot> tyger2: What operating system?
#15 [00:03] <tyger2> win xp sp3
#16 [00:03] <tyger2> Professional edition.
#17 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> What version of java?
#18 [00:03] <tyger2> 6
#19 [00:04] <tyger2> I am going to attempt to move my server back to my local comp, and see if they can connect.
#20 [00:04] <tyger2> if they can, i'll at least know it's an issue on this machine.
#21 [00:04] <tyger2> brb
#22 [00:06] <Adryis> http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc99/Larxene0/sjskj.jpg
#23 [00:07] <Adryis> I couldn't figure out how to use the pastebin.. so i went to photobucket. D:
#24 [00:08] <Adryis> I am sad. ;~;
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#26 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, those look like video driver problems all right
#27 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Adryis - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#28 [00:08] <skippydippy> Excuse me, can someone help me with my Minecraft?
#29 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> ??> Adryis win/dxdiag
#30 [00:08] <VoxelHead> Adryis: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#31 [00:08] <VoxelHead> Adryis: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#32 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Only if you tell us what the problem is
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#34 [00:09] <Adryis> I can't figure out how to use that pastebin thing.. =/
#35 [00:10] <Adryis> It doesn't give me an option to paste or browse.
#36 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Adryis - Just copy the text you want to share to others in the big text box in the middle, press the submit button, it'll take you to a new webpage. Copy the address in your browser's address bar and give it to others
#37 [00:10] <skippydippy> I opened up my Minecraft with a .bat file and right as I log on it just turns the program off.
#38 [00:10] <skippydippy> I've tried re-installing it already and it still isn't working.
#39 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Any error reports? Any files named hs_err_pid?
#40 [00:10] <skippydippy> Yes.
#41 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> Could you share them via pastebin.com and give us the URL to it?
#42 [00:11] <skippydippy> There are 7 of them on my desktop.
#43 [00:11] <skippydippy> Should I paste all of them?
#44 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> Just give us the latest one
#45 [00:11] <skippydippy> Okay.
#46 [00:12] <guest-0-38188> So, earlier today, I installed optifine and it seemed to improve so much, and it seemingly gave no issues. I updated Java to Java 7. I think the version i had ver 6 upd 09 or something like that. Anyway after a while it froze. It does this everytime i load my world. Eventually it got to the point where as soon as the world would load it would be frozen. I removed the Optifin .jar file and replaced it with the origina
#47 [00:13] <guest-0-38188> I deleted .minecraft and reinstalled. Still didn't help. Has anyone else experienced this??
#48 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Java 7 has been known to cause problems with minecraft. We recommend java 6 only
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#50 [00:13] <Adryis> Text.. Ugh..
#51 [00:13] <guest-0-38188> I'm running it on Java 6 update 10 now and it's still doing it. I really think it must be a Java problem tho.
#52 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-38188 - Try uninstalling all versions of java and installing only java 6
#53 [00:14] <tyger2> And... I am back.
#54 [00:14] <guest-0-38188> I did so.
#55 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> If you're running a 64 bit OS, try installing the 64 bit version of java
#56 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> Java 6 update 10 is not the latest version. Not even close
#57 [00:14] <Adryis> http://pastebin.com/uzYVSdEi
#58 [00:14] <skippydippy> http://pastebin.com/XdKqQLVd
#59 [00:14] <Adryis> That may or may not be correct.
#60 [00:14] <skippydippy> I really want to play on my Minecraft. :(
#61 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> Adryis - That looks correct
#62 [00:15] <guest-0-38188> I'm sorry if I am just barging in here. I don't mean to be a nuicance. I'm running 32 bit OS. And I didn't start with update 10. I just sort of worked my way down. Tried to shoot for what I had originally.
#63 [00:15] <guest-0-38188> *nuisance.
#64 [00:15] <Adryis> Me, too Skippydippy. D:
#65 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-38188 - Please try uninstalling java completely, and installing the latest java 6, it should be update 27. You can find a download for it here:
#66 [00:15] <skippydippy> We're still young soldiers, we're not ready to die without playing a little bit more Minecraft.
#67 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> ??> guest-0-38188 java
#68 [00:15] <VoxelHead> guest-0-38188: (java) Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#69 [00:15] <VoxelHead> guest-0-38188: (java) Other versions of java: Version 6: ?? getjre/6u27, ?? getjdk/6u27 | Version 7: ?? getjre/7u1, ?? getjdk/7u1
#70 [00:15] <guest-0-38188> Maybe it's not Java then, as I tried ver. 27.
#71 [00:15] <Adryis> Heck yeah. D:
#72 [00:16] <tyger2> alas, moving the server back to my local computer didn't not fix the issue.
#73 [00:16] <Adryis> I wonder if Aubot would murder me for swearing.. D:
#74 [00:16] <skippydippy> ndskjfhuoijskfsd rage.
#75 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Looks like a problem with your intel drivers. Do you know how to update them?
#76 [00:16] <tyger2> it'll kick you, i believe.
#77 [00:16] <skippydippy> No..
#78 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Adryis - One moment.. looks to be a pretty old system.
#79 [00:16] <skippydippy> I'm only 11.
#80 [00:16] <Adryis> fdhbghs Lol
#81 [00:16] <skippydippy> I'm not that good with computers.
#82 [00:17] <Adryis> It was working before this last update..
#83 [00:17] <skippydippy> Try updating back to 1.7.3 then, Adryis.
#84 [00:17] <Adryis> Not the downloaded one, but the one in browser, but now neither work..
#85 [00:17] <skippydippy> Unless you're using 1.9.4, update back to 1.8.1
#86 [00:17] <tyger2> Adryis, your having the same issue as I am, correct? socketexceptions, and what not?
#87 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Adryis - Alright. The problem is this your system. Minecraft before 1.8, used OpenGL 1.1 standard code. With 1.8, the code was updated to use more advanced OpenGL 1.3 code.
#88 [00:17] <Adryis> So i can't run it anymore? =/
#89 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Your system was likely on the cusp of incompatibility, but we do have some workarounds we can try.
#90 [00:18] <skippydippy> GreyVulpine.
#91 [00:18] <skippydippy> I'm only 11, how do I update my drivers?
#92 [00:18] <skippydippy> :(
#93 [00:18] <Adryis> i don't have much time.. I have to get going.. =/
#94 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> You're running an intel chipset, which shares system RAM.
#95 [00:18] <Adryis> skippydippy.
#96 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Adryis - Could you try these instructions:
#97 [00:18] <skippydippy> Yeah, Adryis?
#98 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#99 [00:18] <Adryis> Right click my comp and go to properties.
#100 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> I'll take care of skippydippy, just follow those instructions
#101 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Go here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#102 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Use the Intel Driver update utility
#103 [00:19] <Adryis> Go to hardware then click the first button. That will take you to all of your hardware.
#104 [00:19] <Adryis> Or do that. Seems easier.
#105 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> (psst, device manager doesn't give updated video drivers)
#106 [00:20] <Adryis> I'll be back later.. I have something i need to do.
#107 [00:20] <Adryis> I was updating them that way. =/
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#109 [00:21] <skippydippy> GreyVulpine.
#110 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#111 [00:21] <skippydippy> On my desktop, I see a file named Shortcut to Computer.
#112 [00:21] <skippydippy> Is that the file for My Computer?
#113 [00:21] <Adryis> Sorry to make your work useless. I'll be back for help later, i'm sure.. @_@
#114 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> We'll be here
#115 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Just a shortcut to my computer
#116 [00:21] <skippydippy> Oh.
#117 [00:21] <skippydippy> Okay, what do I do then?
#118 [00:21] <Adryis> Thank you. :3
#119 [00:21] <Iridium> i'm having issues with a pair of double doors
#120 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Go here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#121 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Use the Intel Driver update utility
#122 [00:22] <Iridium> i've wired them in the exact same way before loads of times
#123 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Elaborate? Got any screenshots?
#124 [00:22] <Iridium> but this time when i press the button on the outside only one door opens
#125 [00:22] <skippydippy> Do I have to buy the drivers or download the drivers?
#126 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> drivers are free
#127 [00:22] <skippydippy> Iridium, have you tried right clicking them?
#128 [00:22] <Iridium> yes
#129 [00:22] <skippydippy> Or you can also try setting the doors in the same position you're in.
#130 [00:22] <skippydippy> Like, take the doors apart.
#131 [00:23] <skippydippy> And place the doors in the spot you're standing in.
#132 [00:23] <Iridium> they work from the plates on the inside
#133 [00:23] <Iridium> just not from the button
#134 [00:23] <Aleksandr> Lol?
#135 [00:23] <Aleksandr> I got kicked from a channel for having auto-rejoin on?
#136 [00:23] <Aleksandr> LMFAO
#137 [00:23] <Iridium> i'll get you them screenies
#138 [00:23] <skippydippy> k.
#139 [00:24] <Aleksandr> That's like kicking someone off of a bus because they held onto the side of the seat.
#140 [00:24] <tyger2> Terribly sorry to be bothersome, but anyone have any other suggestions for my server issue?
#141 [00:24] <Aleksandr> Iridium
#142 [00:24] <Iridium> yes?
#143 [00:24] <Aleksandr> Have you tried putting the torches UNDER the blocks?
#144 [00:24] <Iridium> yes
#145 [00:24] <skippydippy> lol.
#146 [00:24] <Aleksandr> 1.9 or 1.8?
#147 [00:24] <Iridium> like i said before, i've made these doors before
#148 [00:24] <Iridium> 1.8
#149 [00:24] <skippydippy> GreyVulpine.
#150 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Do you have physicaly access to the server?
#151 [00:25] <Aleksandr> let me try on my thing.
#152 [00:25] <Iridium> yes
#153 [00:25] <Iridium> it's my server
#154 [00:25] <skippydippy> It says that it wants me to install System Requirements Lab.
#155 [00:25] <skippydippy> Is System Requirements Lab safe?
#156 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Could you try rebooting the server software, and going back in to try it again?
#157 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Yes, it's from intel's site
#158 [00:25] <skippydippy> okay.
#159 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - I have a feeling you're hitting the redstone bug..
#160 [00:26] <skippydippy> Iridium, can I join your server? :D
#161 [00:26] <Iridium> the reboot didn't help
#162 [00:26] <Iridium> and sure
#163 [00:26] <skippydippy> :D
#164 [00:26] <skippydippy> MSG ME.
#165 [00:26] <skippydippy> :D
#166 [00:27] <Aleksandr> Works on mine Iri.
#167 [00:27] <Iridium> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmxvW7-dVV4
#168 [00:27] <Iridium> that's the tut i'm followiing
#169 [00:27] <Iridium> how do i get you these screenies?
#170 [00:27] <Iridium> photobucket or something?
#171 [00:27] <Aleksandr> press F2.
#172 [00:27] <Aleksandr> I think
#173 [00:28] <Aleksandr> Imgur is better.
#174 [00:28] <skippydippy> Try Snipping Tool.
#175 [00:29] <tyger2> ima grab a bite to eat... then i'll be back to trouble shoot my socketExceptions
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#177 [00:29] <Aleksandr> My sound is fixed, woot.
#178 [00:30] <guest-0-51075> Yeah...so, I just tried to load minecraft and before it froze again, there was a godawful amount of sheep. I'm talking at least 20 all in the same area.
#179 [00:30] <Iridium> http://i.imgur.com/A7dzp.png
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#181 [00:30] <Iridium> http://i.imgur.com/RF2EO.png
#182 [00:30] <Aleksandr> Fuck yeah wireless!
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#185 [00:30] <Iridium> you can't see it from those screenies but there's a torch under the blue block at the back
#186 [00:30] <Iridium> but that isn't the door that's having issues
#187 [00:31] <skippydippy> pink doors.
#188 [00:31] <skippydippy> *thumbs up*
#189 [00:31] <Iridium> yeah i do love this texture pack
#190 [00:31] <Iridium> hate the redstone on it though
#191 [00:31] <skippydippy> what's it called?
#192 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Redstone wire on the right side, between the green and blue blocks doesn't seem to be connected to anything
#193 [00:31] <Iridium> cheerful pack
#194 [00:31] <skippydippy> thanks.
#195 [00:32] <Iridium> that wouldn't be the one connected to the button or plate would it?
#196 [00:32] <Iridium> oh between the green and blue
#197 [00:33] <Aleksandr> That was strange. >.>
#198 [00:33] <Iridium> that's connected to that blue torch
#199 [00:33] <Aleksandr> I made a new map
#200 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Ooo.. that's a torch..
#201 [00:33] <Aleksandr> and found a perfect 3x3 hole
#202 [00:33] <skippydippy> GreyVulpine.
#203 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - Yes?
#204 [00:33] <skippydippy> Can I ask you something not related to Minecraft but related to my Google Chrome?
#205 [00:33] <skippydippy> It's acting strange.
#206 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Could you PM me the server ip? I think I need to look at this in person
#207 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> skippydippy - You can try..
#208 [00:34] <Iridium> sure
#209 [00:34] <Aleksandr> The minecraft gen makes no sense to me.
#210 [00:34] * |Kiikun| is getting annoyed with spacechem and woudl like to look too
#210 [00:34] <Aleksandr> Rivers are generated with the world
#211 [00:34] <skippydippy> Sometimes when I open my Google Chrome.
#212 [00:34] <Aleksandr> yet, lava lakes, and ponds, are created after.
#213 [00:35] <Aleksandr> as well as villages, strongholds, and mineshafts.
#214 [00:35] <|Kiikun|> rivers and ravines were added along with the terain gen overhaul. villages shafts and strongholds are disableable. the rest were in game before
#215 [00:36] <Aleksandr> I know Kiikun, but it still makes no sense.
#216 [00:37] * |Kiikun| shrugs
#216 [00:37] <Aleksandr> Lmao, I'm using the Buriedtreasure mod
#217 [00:37] <Aleksandr> Just found 3 chests in a pond in the s
#218 [00:37] <Aleksandr> desert. xD
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#220 [00:38] <Aleksandr> What the crack?
#221 [00:38] <Aleksandr> It must of known it was in water. o.o
#222 [00:39] <skippydippy> A pop-up comes up and says this: http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad113/Po1ngGuy/jsfhajra.png
#223 [00:40] <|Kiikun|> Aleksandr: what was in it? buckets?
#224 [00:40] <Aleksandr> Kiikun, 2 buckets of water, 9 fish, sand
#225 [00:40] <Aleksandr> gravel, etc
#226 [00:40] <Aleksandr> oh, and clay.
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#228 [00:42] <Adryis> So i just tried that thing that i was told to.
#229 [00:42] <Adryis> Yeah. It worked.
#230 [00:42] <Adryis> Thank you. :3333
#231 [00:42] <Adryis> <333
#232 [00:42] <skippydippy> It still doesn't work for me..
#233 [00:42] <Adryis> I'm sorry.. D:
#234 [00:42] <Adryis> I wish i was cool enough to help.. But i am not, yet. :(
#235 [00:42] <tyger2> okay, i am back.
#236 [00:42] <tyger2> again.
#237 [00:43] <Adryis> Welcome back :D
#238 [00:43] <tyger2> Thanks.
#239 [00:43] <Adryis> Yuh.
#240 [00:43] <tyger2> were you having a socket exception error Adryis?
#241 [00:43] <tyger2> or, a different error?
#242 [00:43] <Adryis> I have no idea.
#243 [00:43] <tyger2> lol
#244 [00:44] <Adryis> It just was telling me that my video card drivers were bad.
#245 [00:44] <tyger2> ah
#246 [00:44] <Adryis> All programs do, but they really do work.. =/
#247 [00:44] <tyger2> lol
#248 [00:44] <Adryis> I can run Mabinogi, a 3dmmorpg. =/
#249 [00:44] <Adryis> *3D mmorpg
#250 [00:45] <tyger2> wierd enough.
#251 [00:45] <tyger2> sadly, my issue seems to be a bit more problematic than drivers.
#252 [00:45] <tyger2> T.T
#253 [00:46] <Adryis> Mine was just stupid.. I had it running before the last update.. :(
#254 [00:47] <tyger2> same.
#255 [00:47] <Adryis> I'm glad it was small, but i'm sorry you can't fix yours that easily.. :(
#256 [00:47] <tyger2> in fact, i had it running up untill today.
#257 [00:47] <tyger2> it's all good.
#258 [00:48] <Adryis> =/
#259 [00:48] <Aleksandr> I like how I was going to play Minecraft, but now I'm randomy inspired to write lyrics.
#260 [00:48] <tyger2> i'll try to update my driver card. maybe that'll solve my issue as well.
#261 [00:48] <Adryis> dinner time~
#262 [00:48] <Adryis> Thanks again for the help and nice convos<3
#263 [00:48] <tyger2> yep yep
#264 [00:49] <Adryis> Aleksandr. I love you for that inspiration.
#265 [00:50] <Adryis> Email me at AdryisQuedaxan@hotmail.com sometime. I'd like to hear from you all. ^^ Just remind me of who you are and where we met. :D
#266 [00:50] <Adryis> -very forgetful-
#267 [00:50] <tyger2> lol
#268 [00:51] <Adryis> Cya~
#269 [00:52] <tyger2> geh. another failed attempt.
#270 [00:53] <tyger2> !check
#271 [00:56] <tyger2> !check
#272 [01:03] <almostroot> tyger2: Have to provide the address.
#273 [01:03] <almostroot> !check c.nerd.nu
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#275 [01:04] <derp> is iridium here?
#276 [01:04] <Iridium> yes
#277 [01:04] <derp> it's me, criticalbacon
#278 [01:04] <derp> can i join your server now?
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#280 [01:05] <Iridium> do i know you?
#281 [01:05] <Iridium> and why do you want to join my server?
#282 [01:05] <derp> Yes.
#283 [01:05] <derp> I'm the one who msg'd you asking if your server was big.
#284 [01:05] <Iridium> you realise nobody plays it
#285 [01:05] <Iridium> besides me and my mate
#286 [01:06] <derp> does that mean i can't join?
#287 [01:06] <derp> :(
#288 [01:06] <Iridium> i don't see why you'd want to
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#290 [01:06] <derp> Dunno, does there have to be a specific reason why I want to play on a Minecraft server?
#291 [01:07] <mib_kfn6ij> i started playing today, how come when i enter the server, the room is spinning?
#292 [01:07] <Iridium> well there's hundreds of servers out there
#293 [01:07] <Tyger> !check 67.211.134.62
#294 [01:07] <BlackGyver> mib_kfn6ij, you should quit drinking.
#295 [01:07] <mib_kfn6ij> ..?
#296 [01:08] <mib_kfn6ij> the minecraft room spins when i move my mouse
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#298 [01:08] <derp> herpderp..
#299 [01:08] <mib_kfn6ij> No matter where i move, it keeeps spinning the minecraft server around
#300 [01:08] <BlackGyver> :D
#301 [01:08] <mib_kfn6ij> Makes it hard to startplaying
#302 [01:08] <BlackGyver> The trick is, it's all about reference
#303 [01:08] <Iridium> mib_kfn6ij: is it just that server or all servers?
#304 [01:08] <mib_kfn6ij> all servers
#305 [01:09] <Tyger> okies, one last try before i go to bed... Can anyone tell me how to fix the error: java.net.SocketException: Socket Closed?
#306 [01:09] <BlackGyver> Your character is actually spinning, not the room.
#307 [01:09] <BlackGyver> Blam.
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#309 [01:09] <BlackGyver> See what I did there ?
#310 [01:09] <BlackGyver> Science.
#311 [01:09] <mib_kfn6ij> ...
#312 [01:09] <derp> *facepalm*
#313 [01:09] <mib_kfn6ij> Im asking how to stop the spinning.
#314 [01:09] <derp> Stop moving your mouse
#315 [01:09] <derp> ZOMGTHATSOAMAZING!
#316 [01:10] <mib_kfn6ij> when i do, it still spins
#317 [01:10] <mib_kfn6ij> >>
#318 [01:10] <BlackGyver> ZOMGITSPIIIINS
#319 [01:10] <mib_kfn6ij> ...
#320 [01:10] * mib_pggafn [mib_pggafn@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#321 [01:10] <mib_kfn6ij> Its people like youthat makes it hard to start playing. >>
#322 [01:10] <derp> mib.
#323 [01:10] <derp> Re-log
#324 [01:10] <BlackGyver> I'll take that as a compliment.
#325 [01:10] <derp> Turn off Minecraft and run it again.
#326 [01:10] <mib_kfn6ij> k
#327 [01:10] <derp> See if anything happens.
#328 [01:10] <mib_kfn6ij> ok thanks
#329 [01:11] <derp> Is it okay, now?
#330 [01:11] <BlackGyver> We'll never know.
#331 [01:11] <solid> can anyone help? minecraft keeps freezing when i try to force update, i have tried deleting the bin folder but it just keeps freezing partway through the download? what to do?
#332 [01:12] <BlackGyver> The spinning caused a sudden rush of blood to the head
#333 [01:12] <BlackGyver> He died quickly.
#334 [01:12] <derp> solid.
#335 [01:12] <Tyger> I take that as a no. I'll try again tomorrow. Perhaps I'll catch someone who has had this issue...
#336 [01:12] <solid> yes
#337 [01:12] <derp> Have you tried updating your drivers?
#338 [01:12] <solid> yes
#339 [01:12] <derp> Hmm.
#340 [01:12] <derp> Which update are you using?
#341 [01:12] <derp> 1.8?
#342 [01:12] <solid> yeah thats what i want
#343 [01:12] <solid> i was on pre4
#344 [01:12] <solid> but trying to go back
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#346 [01:13] <derp> Oh.
#347 [01:13] <derp> Try it again.
#348 [01:13] <RockBonner> derp
#349 [01:13] <derp> Exit out of the program.
#350 [01:13] <derp> And try it again.
#351 [01:13] <RockBonner> :D
#352 [01:13] <solid> ive done this many times :s
#353 [01:13] <RockBonner> ヽ( ﾟヮ ｡)ノ
#354 [01:13] <solid> could it be an issue with java?
#355 [01:13] <derp> Which version are you using, Solid, for java?
#356 [01:14] <RockBonner> uguu
#357 [01:14] <derp> We recommend using version 6 27 and not 7.
#358 [01:14] <solid> how to check? im a java newb :D
#359 [01:14] <Iridium> anybody got any ideas why these doors aren't working?
#360 [01:14] <solid> oh
#361 [01:14] <solid> i think i h=have 7
#362 [01:14] <derp> Go to the java website.
#363 [01:14] <Iridium> http://imgur.com/A7dzp,RF2EO#1
#364 [01:14] <RockBonner> yep, latest javas are reccomended
#365 [01:14] <derp> Here, Solid.
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#367 [01:14] <Iridium> http://i.imgur.com/A7dzp.png
#368 [01:14] <derp> Download number 6.
#369 [01:14] <solid> i have updated very recently
#370 [01:15] <Iridium> when i press the button only 1 door opens
#371 [01:15] <RockBonner> yes
#372 [01:16] <derp> Iridium.
#373 [01:16] <derp> Take down the doors.
#374 [01:16] <RockBonner> good
#375 [01:16] <derp> Look at the redstone wires and see if anything is wrong or something.
#376 [01:16] <RockBonner> yep
#377 [01:17] <RockBonner> anyone watched the Rugby world cup 2011??
#378 [01:17] <solid> yes
#379 [01:17] <|Kiikun|> whats rugby?
#380 [01:17] <RockBonner> Did you?
#381 [01:17] <|Kiikun|> </troll>
#382 [01:17] <solid> i watched it
#383 [01:17] <RockBonner> Rugby is a sport
#384 [01:17] <|Kiikun|> i know :P i was kidding.
#385 [01:17] <Iridium> i tried replacing the doors
#386 [01:17] <Iridium> and there's nothing wrong with the wires
#387 [01:17] <derp> Hm.
#388 [01:17] <RockBonner> NZ!!!! Ohhh yeah baby!!1 Allblacks crapped all over the Wallabies
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#390 [01:18] <RockBonner> Ohh yeah
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#392 [01:18] <Iridium> the torches both toggle
#393 [01:18] <derp> I think you're going through the redstone period.
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#395 [01:18] <Iridium> but the right door doesn't open
#396 [01:18] <RockBonner> Allblacks on the FINALS ZOMFG
#397 [01:18] <Iridium> from the outside
#398 [01:18] <Iridium> it works fine from the inside plates
#399 [01:18] <derp> Hm.
#400 [01:18] <Iridium> redstone period?
#401 [01:18] <derp> Do you use plates from the inside or the outside?
#402 [01:18] <Iridium> inside
#403 [01:18] <Iridium> button on the outside
#404 [01:18] <derp> Yes, when everything goes wrong, you have much to learn young grasshopper.
#405 [01:19] <derp> Hm.
#406 [01:19] <derp> Put the button on the inside.
#407 [01:19] <derp> and the plates on the outside.
#408 [01:19] <RockBonner> Ohh yes
#409 [01:19] <derp> Having a good time there, Rock?
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#413 [01:19] <RockBonner> Baby OHH!
#414 [01:20] <Iridium> if i stick plates on the outside the plates work
#415 [01:20] <derp> But do both of the doors open?
#416 [01:20] <Iridium> yes
#417 [01:20] <derp> Then your problem is solved. :)
#418 [01:20] <Iridium> no it's not
#419 [01:20] <derp> It isn't?
#420 [01:20] <Iridium> i don't want a house full of creepers
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#422 [01:21] <Iridium> i want a button on the outside
#423 [01:21] <derp> Then use a lever.
#424 [01:21] <derp> Or put fences around your house.
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#426 [01:21] <RockBonner> Ohh settle down baby.. OHHH... SETTLE DOWN!!! OHHH YEAHHH... FEELSS GOOD!!!
#427 [01:21] <Iridium> i don't want a lever though
#428 [01:21] <Iridium> because the lever will look wrong
#429 [01:21] <Niko> hello
#430 [01:21] <Niko> i heard i could find quick help here
#431 [01:21] <Niko> mind if i ask for some?
#432 [01:21] <Iridium> each time i enter my house and leave it the ever will be in a different position
#433 [01:21] <Iridium> ask away
#434 [01:22] <derp> Hello Niko.
#435 [01:22] <derp> Would you like any help?
#436 [01:22] <Guest55714> ive been trying to increase allowcated memroy for minecraft
#437 [01:22] <Guest55714> hi derp
#438 [01:22] <Iridium> it's generally better to just ask the question rather than asking if you can ask the question
#439 [01:22] <Guest55714> and uh
#440 [01:22] <Guest55714> none of the guides online are working
#441 [01:22] <Guest55714> i think theres something wrong with my java specifically
#442 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Got a 64 bit OS?
#443 [01:22] <Guest55714> yeah
#444 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Do you have 64 bit java installed?
#445 [01:22] <Guest55714> 64 bit win 7 or whatever
#446 [01:22] <Guest55714> i should
#447 [01:22] <Guest55714> since you mentioned that
#448 [01:22] <Guest55714> ima go ahead and reinstall just in case
#449 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Be sure. Check C:\program files\ for a java folder
#450 [01:22] <Guest55714> im SURe i have it
#451 [01:22] <RockBonner> ohh yeah... OHH yeah... OHH YEAH..... uhh yes! UHH YES!!! BABY YES!!!!! OHHH YEAHHHH!!! YEAS BABY!!!! YES!!!!!
#452 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> !k RockBonner
#453 [01:23] * GreyBot kicked RockBonner from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ockBonner :<Kicks:839>)
#454 [01:23] <Guest55714> O_O
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#456 [01:23] <Iridium> even if i stick a lever on the outside only one door opens
#457 [01:23] <RockBonner> sorry
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#459 [01:24] <RockBonner> very sorry
#460 [01:24] <derp> Get rid of the name, Rock.
#461 [01:24] <derp> Please.
#462 [01:24] <derp> -.-
#463 [01:24] <Iridium> there's nothing wrong with his name
#464 [01:25] <Iridium> however there is something wrong with these doors
#465 [01:25] <Iridium> and there's something even more wrong that nobody can help me with them
#466 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> telling you Iridium, it's those two torches beneaht the doors
#467 [01:25] <Henpaku> looks like i will have to restart this browser once
#468 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> beneath*
#469 [01:25] * Kealper pokes at aubot's !check command
#469 [01:25] <RockBonner> Maybe
#470 [01:25] <Kealper> should work fine now
#471 [01:25] <RockBonner> or maybe not
#472 [01:26] <Iridium> GreyVulpine: i don't get that though, because if it was the torches wouldn't the plates not work either?
#473 [01:26] <Henpaku> in the meantime
#474 [01:26] <Kealper> Iridium: redstone torches?
#475 [01:26] <RockBonner> derp FTW!!
#476 [01:26] <Henpaku> when i have this 64 bit java installed
#477 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Having those two torches right next to each other interferes with each other
#478 [01:26] <Henpaku> what exactly do i do to increase memory for minecraft?
#479 [01:27] <Iridium> nah i figured regular torches would open doors
#480 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Henpaku - Then you can try: http://pastebin.com/YhRXMsEU
#481 [01:27] <Iridium> but why don't they interfere from the inside though?
#482 [01:27] <RockBonner> Forza Motorsport 4 BEATS Gran Turismo 5!!!
#483 [01:27] <Iridium> and why don't they interfere on my other set of doors using the same design?
#484 [01:27] * Kealper kicked RockBonner from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ockBonner :RockBonner)
#485 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> I could swear they're interfering like that righ tnow
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#487 [01:27] <Kealper> actually
#488 [01:27] <RockBonner> STOP KICKING!!
#489 [01:27] <Henpaku> tksmlupi
#490 [01:27] <Henpaku> thank you*
#491 [01:28] * Kealper kicked RockBonner from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ockBonner :Make me.)
#492 [01:28] <Henpaku> O_o stupid fingers were one off...
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#494 [01:28] <RockBonner> Im sorry
#495 [01:28] <Kealper> why does /kickban not work in this client
#496 [01:28] <Henpaku> ill let you know how it goes
#497 [01:28] <Henpaku> thanks for the help
#498 [01:28] <RockBonner> Im really sorry
#499 [01:28] <derp> RockBonner, change your name.
#500 [01:28] <derp> huh.
#501 [01:28] <RockBonner> ok, but to what?? any sggestions?
#502 [01:28] <Kealper> technically his doesn't say "boner" as in "erection" if that's what you were getting at....
#503 [01:29] <Kealper> either that, or he really fails at spelling
#504 [01:29] <derp> Kealper.
#505 [01:29] <RockBonner> no, I have double "n"
#506 [01:29] <derp> The last time I saw him he was acting like he was masturbating.
#507 [01:29] <Kealper> oh, well then
#508 [01:29] <Kealper> i wonder if this client uses /bankick? let's find out
#509 [01:29] <derp> He was saying Ohh yeaah
#510 [01:29] <derp> and stuff.
#511 [01:29] <RockBonner> This is my real world name sorry
#512 [01:29] <Kealper> nope...that isn't a command either
#513 [01:30] <derp> Does anyone have a Minecraft server I can join?
#514 [01:30] <Kealper> derp: #smp
#515 [01:30] <Kealper> shut up aubot
#516 [01:30] <RockBonner> STOPP!!! im not doing anything wrong!!!
#517 [01:31] <Kealper> now that help clearly says it bans then kicks when doing /kickban....dangit i want my irssi back
#518 [01:31] <Kealper> infact...i'm getting my irssi back, xchat is rediculous
#519 [01:32] <RockBonner> Sorry, but im TECHNICALLY DO NOT HAVE THE OFFENSIVE WORD ON MY NAME
#520 [01:32] <RockBonner> So there is no real reason on why you should kick me
#521 [01:32] <RockBonner> ヽ( ﾟヮ ｡)ノ
#522 [01:33] <Kealper> TECHNICALLY...i don't need any reason at all to kick or ban you
#523 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> The reason we've been kicking you, hasn't been because of your name.
#524 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> Let's see the past couple time you've been kick..
#525 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> <RockBonner> STOP KICKING!!
#526 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> <RockBonner> Forza Motorsport 4 BEATS Gran Turismo 5!!!
#527 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> <RockBonner> ohh yeah... OHH yeah... OHH YEAH..... uhh yes! UHH YES!!! BABY YES!!!!! OHHH YEAHHHH!!! YEAS BABY!!!! YES!!!!!
#528 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> Notice a connection here?
#529 [01:33] <RockBonner> Well, are you ps3 fanboy?
#530 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> Couldn't care less about the PS3
#531 [01:34] * Kealper kicked RockBonner from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ockBonner :Let's try the /kickban command again, hopefully it works? (also, user spamming))
#532 [01:34] <Kealper> wahey!
#533 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> horrid banmask
#534 [01:34] <Kealper> yes, yes it is
#535 [01:34] <Kealper> xchat is a horrid client
#536 [01:34] <TheBadShepperd> I still read that as cable.testicular.net
#537 [01:34] <Kealper> rofl
#538 [01:35] <derp> goodnight
#539 [01:35] <Kealper> so...some random offtopic chatter...i got angry earlier today and slammed my fist down on my computer desk
#540 [01:35] <Kealper> and now i've lost feeling in the outside half of my pinky finger
#541 [01:35] <Iridium> been there, done that
#542 [01:36] <Iridium> can you move it?
#543 [01:36] <Iridium> and is it swollen?
#544 [01:36] <Kealper> yeah, it isn't broke and it doesn't hurt, it's just numb on the top and outside parts, but is perfectly normal on the inside and bottom parts
#545 [01:36] <Iridium> ah ok
#546 [01:36] <Kealper> heck, no bruising or anything, just no feeling
#547 [01:37] <Iridium> strange
#548 [01:37] <Kealper> so i'm pretty sure i annihilated a nerve ending somewhere
#549 [01:37] <Kealper> hopefully it grows back and fixes itself...it feels quite strange lol
#550 [01:37] <Iridium> yeah lets hope so
#551 [01:37] <Iridium> i can have a word with my mam when she wakes up if you want
#552 [01:37] <Iridium> she's a nurse
#553 [01:38] <Kealper> meh, i'll start to worry if it stays like this for a week or more lol
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#556 [01:38] <Iridium> yeah
#557 [01:38] * mib_9en6ar [mib_9en6ar@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#558 [01:38] <Kealper> wow
#559 [01:38] <Iridium> is mibbit a person?
#560 [01:39] <Kealper> i'm surprised he was actually continually trying to connect....
#561 [01:39] <HOMOsapien> herrow
#562 [01:39] <Kealper> HOMOsapien: you realize you are not hiding at all, right?
#563 [01:39] <HOMOsapien> Who?
#564 [01:39] <HOMOsapien> Yes
#565 [01:39] <mib_9en6ar> We have paid the money but can't seem to download minecraft full version so that we can play multi player
#566 [01:39] <HOMOsapien> Whois
#567 [01:39] <HOMOsapien> i know don't worry
#568 [01:40] <Kealper> mib_9en6ar: what exactly is happening when you try to download it?
#569 [01:40] <mib_9en6ar> Can we reload and we are on a windows platform
#570 [01:40] <mib_9en6ar> can you talk me through it if I log on
#571 [01:40] <Kealper> mib_9en6ar: are you trying the downloaded one or the one that runs in the browser?
#572 [01:41] <mib_9en6ar> The first one
#573 [01:41] <Kealper> mib_9en6ar: try this link: http://minecraft.net/play
#574 [01:42] <mib_9en6ar> ok will do thanks it looks like it is downloading
#575 [01:42] <HOMOsapien> Kealper FTW!!
#576 [01:42] <Kealper> HOMOsapien: also, change your nickname or i'll ban you for good
#577 [01:43] <HOMOsapien> ok!! okokokok!!
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#579 [01:43] <mib_9en6ar> It looks like it has worked will let you know, my son is one happy chappy thanks
#580 [01:43] <Kealper> mib_9en6ar: np, if you have any other issues, feel free to stop by :P
#581 [01:43] <mib_9en6ar> Thanks
#582 [01:44] <Iridium> anyone know a good seed?
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#584 [01:44] <BarrackObama> Hello
#585 [01:45] <Iridium> i feel like starting again from scratch
#586 [01:45] <Kealper> BarrackObama: i realize that you are trying to troll, but that name really doesn't offend me
#587 [01:45] <BarrackObama> Ok... troll???
#588 [01:45] <Kealper> Iridium: hold on...lol
#589 [01:45] <Iridium> ok sure
#590 [01:45] <Iridium> if i could get a snowy one that'd be great
#591 [01:45] <Kealper> Iridium: if i can find it, you'll hate me for a seed i'm about to give you :P
#592 [01:46] <Iridium> oh
#593 [01:46] <Iridium> why would i do that?
#594 [01:46] <Iridium> hate really aint my style
#595 [01:46] <BarrackObama> Dictionary meaning: A mythical creature that can be found on Greek mythology and is referred too as a ... blah ... blah... blah...
#596 [01:46] <Iridium> hell, i can't even play an fps or mmo without being a healer
#597 [01:47] <Kealper> BarrackObama: you're pushing it
#598 [01:47] <BarrackObama> No, im not trying to be an imginary creature sorry
#599 [01:47] <BarrackObama> lol, ok sorry
#600 [01:47] <BarrackObama> sorry
#601 [01:47] * Kealper kicked BarrackObama from #minecrafthelp (Reason: arrackObama :Nope! Chuck Testa.)
#602 [01:47] <mib_9en6ar> All working thanks
#603 [01:48] <Kealper> Iridium: seems i can't find that anymore...basically it started you out on this super tiny island with one tree
#604 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Sounds fun
#605 [01:49] <Iridium> well i did try that skyblock survival one and i didn't like it much
#606 [01:49] <Iridium> but an island sounds ok
#607 [01:49] <Kealper> i actually liked that skyblock thing lol
#608 [01:50] <Iridium> i guess it's fun and all, i just don't like sticking with stone tools
#609 [01:50] <Kealper> ahh, true lol...that was a rather annoying part about it
#610 [01:51] <Iridium> is there any seed sites that'll let me sort or filter them in any way?
#611 [01:52] <Iridium> the only ones i've found are just huge long lists
#612 [01:52] <Iridium> is mibbit a person?
#613 [01:52] <Kealper> never really looked around, there might be :/
#614 [01:52] <Kealper> no, Mibbit is a client
#615 [01:52] <Iridium> oh i see
#616 [01:52] <Iridium> that would explain why i see it changing states alot :P
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#618 [01:53] <Kealper> well, the last thing i was doing was changing bans for a person that was using Mibbit lol
#619 [01:53] <Kealper> the irc client i'm using right now is a bit dumb with bans
#620 [01:54] <TheBadShepperd> Are you using yChat's /ban? It is a bit weird.
#621 [01:54] <Iridium> i see
#622 [01:54] <Iridium> is there much difference between clients?
#623 [01:54] <TheBadShepperd> I always just right click the user, operator actions, kickban. There is a decent @domain option.
#624 [01:54] <Iridium> i've only ever used chatzilla
#625 [01:55] <Iridium> oh and i used one that was built into a runescape client all those years back
#626 [01:55] <rEvolutionTU> Hey guys, I just ran into some trouble with rails, t-intersections and switches. Google/Minecraftwiki/Youtube aren't helping anymore. :X
#627 [01:56] <rEvolutionTU> My current railsystem starts at A and has a switch mixing it up between destination B and C. However, when I'm at B and on the way back I automatically move to C. How to make it so I only have A->B/C and B/C->A ... I guess I need some detector rails on the way back to switch my T-intersection, but I'm at a loss as to how to set that up.
#628 [01:57] <Kealper> on my main i've got bans sorted out, but on my laptop it's basically a vanilla y/xchat install
#629 [01:57] <Kealper> rEvolutionTU: i've never tried making an elaborate rail setup, so i can't really be the one to help on that :/
#630 [01:58] <rEvolutionTU> Like all I'm finding on youtube are people hitting switches with shovels on their way around the map. There must be some other solution for sure. :D
#631 [02:00] <rEvolutionTU> Basicly I guess I need some setup which involves switching the intersection temporarily via detection rail, just finding how that has to look like is a pain in the ass. (Intersection snaps back to its old position before I arrive at it is kinda my problem.)
#632 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> detector rail, chain of repeaters between it and the t-intersection
#633 [02:04] <rEvolutionTU> Oh, wow. Didn't know about their delay feature. >_> ... So basicly I can chain some of them and the signal from the detector rail stays active for longer? :S
#634 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Exactly
#635 [02:04] <rEvolutionTU> I love you. <3
#636 [02:04] <rEvolutionTU> Cheers.
#637 [02:04] <Iridium> so what's the deal with swamp biomes?
#638 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
#639 [02:05] <Iridium> well is there anything special about them?
#640 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Biomes
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#642 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Basically the only place you'll find: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Lily_Pad
#643 [02:10] <Iridium> i see
#644 [02:10] <Iridium> it says here tundra will be implimented in 1.9
#645 [02:10] <Iridium> does that mean i wont find snow untill then?
#646 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> snow's a bit buggy in 1.8, but it's there
#647 [02:11] <Iridium> buggy in what way?
#648 [02:12] <SinZ> 1.8 doesnt spawn snow biomes
#649 [02:12] <|Kiikun|> it erases torches and stuff like water dowes
#650 [02:12] <|Kiikun|> not pops, ERASES x.x
#651 [02:12] <SinZ> it was removed, to be readded in the future with better code
#652 [02:13] <Iridium> so i'll have to wait to create my winter wonderland?
#653 [02:13] <Iridium> oh actually
#654 [02:14] <Iridium> couldn't i find a 1.9 pre4 snow seed and then use that in 1.8 and it'll update into a snow biome?
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#656 [02:16] <fault> 1.9 terrain generation has changed a bit, i don't think seeds will change
#657 [02:16] <fault> *i think seeds will change
#658 [02:19] <Iridium> what would happen if i generated a map in pre4 and then loaded it in 1.8?
#659 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, minecraft would crash
#660 [02:21] <Iridium> well that's no good
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#662 [02:22] <eviltrucks> woah
#663 [02:22] <Grim_Reaper> Morning
#664 [02:22] <eviltrucks> same to u
#665 [02:22] <eviltrucks> :D
#666 [02:22] <eviltrucks> well..its only like
#667 [02:22] <eviltrucks> 2:22
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#669 [02:23] <eviltrucks> so REALY hope some can help
#670 [02:23] <Iridium> 7:23am here :P
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#672 [02:24] <eviltrucks> i have been haveing an error for like the last 3 wweks
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#674 [02:24] <eviltrucks> weeks*
#675 [02:24] <Grim_Reaper> Ee that sucks
#676 [02:24] <eviltrucks> on minecraft
#677 [02:24] <Grim_Reaper> I'll see if I can help
#678 [02:24] <eviltrucks> ok
#679 [02:24] <eviltrucks> cool
#680 [02:24] <eviltrucks> the error message reads
#681 [02:24] <Grim_Reaper> Though my knowledge is kinda limited :p
#682 [02:24] <eviltrucks> chain differs in 1 vs 3
#683 [02:24] <eviltrucks> i do NOT understand
#684 [02:24] <eviltrucks> O_o
#685 [02:25] <fault> Iridium: i tried it, all the new items are gone, that's all.
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#687 [02:25] <Grim_Reaper> Never heard of that error
#688 [02:25] <Grim_Reaper> Lemme check on it
#689 [02:25] <eviltrucks> ok
#690 [02:26] <Iridium> fault: that's great, so there's no reason i couldn't generate a pre 4 snow map and host that so i have some snow in 1.8?
#691 [02:26] <Grim_Reaper> Are you running the game via a browser?
#692 [02:27] <eviltrucks> well i have NEVER bought minecraft
#693 [02:27] <eviltrucks> i just play on the servers
#694 [02:27] <eviltrucks> mutiplayer
#695 [02:27] <Grim_Reaper> The classic multiplayer I take it?
#696 [02:27] <eviltrucks> yes
#697 [02:27] <Grim_Reaper> I see
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#699 [02:28] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried reinstalling java/updating your drivers/updating your web browser?
#700 [02:28] <eviltrucks> yes and it still reads that error message
#701 [02:28] <eviltrucks> i updated java ETC etc
#702 [02:28] <Grim_Reaper> Ok
#703 [02:28] <Grim_Reaper> And have you tried deleting the .minecraft folder in appdata if it's there?
#704 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> Completely uninstall java from your system before you reinstall it
#705 [02:28] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#706 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> classic doesn't have .minecraft
#707 [02:29] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh oky
#708 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Not in %appdata%
#709 [02:29] <eviltrucks> hmm
#710 [02:29] <eviltrucks> never thought of that
#711 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Classic stores its files in the temp folder of whatever browser's cache folder it is
#712 [02:29] <Grim_Reaper> Where does it store the files
#713 [02:29] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh oky
#714 [02:29] <eviltrucks> but again
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#716 [02:29] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried clearing cache and such ?
#717 [02:29] <eviltrucks> i never dowload any thing minecraft
#718 [02:29] <eviltrucks> no
#719 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> The browser does it for you
#720 [02:30] <Grim_Reaper> Give that a try perhaps
#721 [02:30] <Grim_Reaper> See if it fixes it
#722 [02:30] <eviltrucks> ill try but i have been chasing fourms and such to fix this
#723 [02:30] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah google doesn't seem to give me much answers about that error
#724 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> It's a java issue
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#726 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> I've seen that error a few times
#727 [02:31] <eviltrucks> so its java thats a prob
#728 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#729 [02:31] <eviltrucks> :(((
#730 [02:32] <Grim_Reaper> [08:28] <@GreyVulpine> Completely uninstall java from your system before you reinstall it
#731 [02:32] <Grim_Reaper> Give that a try I guess o.o
#732 [02:33] <Iridium> wow, i think i've found the perfect seed
#733 [02:33] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#734 [02:33] <Iridium> it spawns right on the intersection of 3 biomes
#735 [02:33] <Iridium> desert forest and snow
#736 [02:33] <Grim_Reaper> Nice
#737 [02:33] <Iridium> with a river running down the middle
#738 [02:33] <Grim_Reaper> What version?
#739 [02:33] <Iridium> 1.9
#740 [02:33] <Grim_Reaper> Pre 4?
#741 [02:34] <Iridium> yep
#742 [02:34] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#743 [02:34] <Iridium> http://seedhunter.blogspot.com/2011/09/intersection-of-3-biomes.html if you're interested
#744 [02:34] <Iridium> i'm pretty sure i read that village has a mineshaft and stronghold underneath it too
#745 [02:35] <Grim_Reaper> :o
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#747 [02:35] <Grim_Reaper> Thanks for the linky <3
#748 [02:35] <Iridium> yw <3
#749 [02:36] <gamakichi> My Video card broke and we got a new one so now minecraft doesnt work, we cant afford a new one, do you have a link or download to help?
#750 [02:36] <Grim_Reaper> Wow that is an awesome spawn
#751 [02:36] <Iridium> ikr!
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#753 [02:37] <Grim_Reaper> gamakichi did you try updating the drivers?
#754 [02:37] <gamakichi> how do i
#755 [02:40] <Grim_Reaper> Depends what card you're using
#756 [02:40] <Grim_Reaper> Do you know the name of it?
#757 [02:40] <gamakichi> illl check
#758 [02:40] <Grim_Reaper> K
#759 [02:40] <Grim_Reaper> If you cant find it
#760 [02:41] <Grim_Reaper> <<? dxdiag
#761 [02:41] <Grim_Reaper> x-x
#762 [02:41] <Grim_Reaper> !help
#763 [02:41] <Grim_Reaper> pfft ._.
#764 [02:41] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine whats the command for the dxdiag defininition again lol
#765 [02:41] <eviltrucks> hmmm
#766 [02:41] <eviltrucks> so lets see
#767 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> win/dxdiag
#768 [02:42] <eviltrucks> i found the java application
#769 [02:42] <eviltrucks> now
#770 [02:42] <eviltrucks> what do i exactly do?
#771 [02:42] <Grim_Reaper> Oh right
#772 [02:42] <Grim_Reaper> >>? win/dxdiag
#773 [02:42] <Grim_Reaper> qq
#774 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> ??> Grim_Reaper win/dxdiag
#775 [02:42] <gamakichi> Intel
#776 [02:42] <VoxelHead> Grim_Reaper: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#777 [02:42] <VoxelHead> Grim_Reaper: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#778 [02:42] <Grim_Reaper> Oh right haha >_>
#779 [02:42] <Grim_Reaper> Do that gamakichi
#780 [02:43] <gamakichi> Do What
#781 [02:44] <Grim_Reaper> ??> gamakichi win/dxdiag
#782 [02:44] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#783 [02:44] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#784 [02:44] <gamakichi> What Win+r keys
#785 [02:44] <Grim_Reaper> You see at the bottom of your keyboard
#786 [02:45] <gamakichi> the one next to th Ctrl and Windows
#787 [02:45] <Grim_Reaper> On the left, next to ctrl, on the right there is a key that has four sqaures
#788 [02:45] <Grim_Reaper> The windows key
#789 [02:45] <Grim_Reaper> Press that and "R" together
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#791 [02:46] <Velasa> Has anyone else noticed a suspicious lack of animals?
#792 [02:47] <Grim_Reaper> I just find it takes forever to find some
#793 [02:47] <Velasa> I've been running around a good half hour looking for chickens when it dawned on me I hadn't seen anything but one squid a while back
#794 [02:47] <Grim_Reaper> Lol poor you =\
#795 [02:48] <Velasa> I guess that ws some update thing?
#796 [02:48] <Velasa> I hadn't seen any specific notes about it
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#798 [02:49] <Grim_Reaper> It took me ages to find some cows on one place where I spawned
#799 [02:49] <Grim_Reaper> And my hunger bar was at 2 p_p
#800 [02:49] <Grim_Reaper> I had to eat rotten flesh during the night to survive..
#801 [02:49] <Velasa> what's that stuff do anyway? I hadn't seen it before
#802 [02:50] <gamakichi> i put the CAPTCHA in and it says something bout cookies
#803 [02:50] <Grim_Reaper> What browser are you using o.o
#804 [02:51] <gamakichi> google chrome
#805 [02:51] <eviltrucks> same
#806 [02:51] <eviltrucks> ^^
#807 [02:51] <Grim_Reaper> eviltrucks do you know how to enable cookies on chrome? (never used it lol)
#808 [02:51] <Grim_Reaper> If so just guide gamakichi through please <3 ?
#809 [02:51] <eviltrucks> nope lolol
#810 [02:51] <Grim_Reaper> aww ;-;
#811 [02:51] <gamakichi> PLZ
#812 [02:51] <Grim_Reaper> Lemme go google it
#813 [02:51] <eviltrucks> i know
#814 [02:51] <gamakichi> k
#815 [02:51] <eviltrucks> :\
#816 [02:51] <eviltrucks> im not tech guy
#817 [02:51] <gamakichi> tell me
#818 [02:51] <eviltrucks> lol
#819 [02:52] <Grim_Reaper> Sec gamakichi. Getting the info :3
#820 [02:52] <eviltrucks> i mean i have google chrome BUT there 4 i am no expert person on computers
#821 [02:52] <Grim_Reaper> In Chrome click on Wrench icon in upper right corner of toolbar. If using Mac, look for Chrome in the toolbar. Go to Options > Under the hood > Content Settings > Cookies. Allow cookies. Do not block third party cookies.
#822 [02:52] <eviltrucks> :\
#823 [02:53] <eviltrucks> and what does this do Grim?
#824 [02:53] <Grim_Reaper> Enable's cookies o.o
#825 [02:53] <eviltrucks> ohhh cookies
#826 [02:53] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#827 [02:53] <eviltrucks> u mean nom nom cookies
#828 [02:53] <eviltrucks> ?
#829 [02:54] <Grim_Reaper> Sure :D
#830 [02:54] <eviltrucks> lol
#831 [02:54] <eviltrucks> but yea
#832 [02:54] <eviltrucks> ill try ur idea tomrrow @grim
#833 [02:54] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#834 [02:54] <eviltrucks> uninstall java then install it
#835 [02:55] <eviltrucks> see if that makes ANY change to it at all
#836 [02:56] <gamakichi> im using windows
#837 [02:56] <Grim_Reaper> Go to Options > Under the hood > Content Settings > Cookies. Allow cookies. Do not block third party cookies.
#838 [02:57] <gamakichi> where does it say Allow cookies
#839 [02:57] <Grim_Reaper> I have no idea as I dont use chrome..
#840 [02:59] <Velasa> after an hour, I have found two sheep. jeez.
#841 [02:59] <eviltrucks> well grim i hope this works
#842 [02:59] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#843 [02:59] <eviltrucks> however i g2g
#844 [02:59] <Grim_Reaper> Breed! BREEED!
#845 [02:59] <Grim_Reaper> See you eviltrucks
#846 [02:59] <eviltrucks> thank u friend for ur help
#847 [03:00] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
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#849 [03:00] <Velasa> oh, and another question
#850 [03:01] <Velasa> has anyone noticed weird issues with sections you had worked in just suddenly filling in up to a flat line with stone?
#851 [03:01] <Velasa> I had dug out a whole pit, put in a glass dome and reflooded it and then it just became a solid hunk of rock one day
#852 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Chunk error, sounds like
#853 [03:01] <Velasa> oi
#854 [03:01] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#855 [03:02] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah similar thing happened to me once
#856 [03:02] <Velasa> It's mot -too- bad because i had sort of wanted to redo it, but damn the central ceiling had been made of solid gold blocks.
#857 [03:02] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#858 [03:02] <Velasa> and that was a lot of gold to disapear all at onve
#859 [03:03] <Grim_Reaper> yeah
#860 [03:03] <Grim_Reaper> One word if you really want.. mcedit
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#862 [03:11] <Iridium> when designing a house creepers and griefers are the only things i should really worry about right?
#863 [03:11] <Grim_Reaper> Worry ever so slightly about endermen
#864 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> And bed/door deisng
#865 [03:11] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#866 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> design
#867 [03:12] <Iridium> tbh i don't really use beds
#868 [03:12] <Grim_Reaper> Oh and lighting
#869 [03:12] <Velasa> that threatened lantern thing still gpoing to go through at some point?
#870 [03:12] <Iridium> and surely i should wire my doors around my house rather than the other way round
#871 [03:12] <Grim_Reaper> Doubt it Velasa
#872 [03:13] <Iridium> how do i protect my house against endermen
#873 [03:13] <Velasa> sweet
#874 [03:14] <Iridium> hold on, if i just had a moat around the house i should be safe from just about everything right?
#875 [03:15] <|Kiikun|> nah.
#876 [03:15] <|Kiikun|> i had a house in a lake and still had a few creepers blowing up my door
#877 [03:15] <Thrae> Iridium: Endermen are relatively rare spawns, just don't look at them. They can teleport so moats won't stop them.
#878 [03:16] <Velasa> can't they only teleport a certian height up?
#879 [03:16] <Thrae> Velasa: Yep
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#890 [04:24] <blink> YO
#891 [04:24] <blink> When items are dropped (when you die) how long does it take for them to disappear?
#892 [04:25] <lemon-rev> blink about 2 to 3 mins
#893 [04:26] <blink> ..haha, damn
#894 [04:26] <lemon-rev> just about enough time to run down a long mineshaft and get your self into trouble before items start disappearing
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#896 [04:36] <blink> Really isn't
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#898 [04:42] <|Kiikun|> if you die and the chunk unloads.. your instantly boned :P
#899 [04:43] <Keltinray> Bottom line: If you die, kiss your items goodbye.
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#908 [05:38] <mib_r7wmsv> helllo
#909 [05:39] <mib_r7wmsv> hellooooooooooo
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#927 [07:04] <mib_fw8b8a> Hey
#928 [07:04] <mib_fw8b8a> Hello i am from Germany
#929 [07:04] <mib_fw8b8a> and i have a problem
#930 [07:09] <Thrae> Apparently the problem is patience
#931 [07:10] <Chris> ^
#932 [07:11] <|Kiikun|> isnt it always?
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#934 [07:12] <Shadowking65> Hello
#935 [07:12] <Shadowking65> I have a BIG PROBLEM
#936 [07:12] <|Kiikun|> hi
#937 [07:12] <|Kiikun|> and welcome back :P
#938 [07:12] <Shadowking65> I have a account with Premium
#939 [07:12] <Chris> I'd try telling us what that problem is shadow
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#941 [07:13] <Chris> Don't we all, what's the problem, or is that it
#942 [07:13] <Shadowking65> sorry for the bad english i am from germany
#943 [07:13] <Chris> ah okay
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#945 [07:13] <Chris> I'll ease off then
#946 [07:13] <Shadowking65> now i have no premium
#947 [07:13] <Chris> what's your minecraft name
#948 [07:13] <Shadowking65> why?
#949 [07:13] <Shadowking65> miencraftmini
#950 [07:13] <Chris> mien or mine
#951 [07:14] <|Kiikun|> !check miencraftmini
#952 [07:14] <|Kiikun|> erm'
#953 [07:14] <Chris> !paid miencraftmini
#954 [07:14] <Thrae> Shadowking65: Did you redeem a gift code to get Premium status?
#955 [07:14] <Chris> wrong command xD
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#957 [07:14] <Shadowking65> mien
#958 [07:14] <Chris> And which site did you buy it from
#959 [07:14] <Chris> okay, just checking
#960 [07:16] <Thrae> Shadowking65: Where did you buy Minecraft?
#961 [07:16] <Shadowking65> wait
#962 [07:17] <Shadowking65> miencraftmini is a friend he come on this channel ok?
#963 [07:17] <Chris> sure
#964 [07:17] <Thrae> OK
#965 [07:17] <Chris> hey thrae, if i'm getting under your feet and you want me to stfu, lemme know :P
#966 [07:17] <Thrae> Chris: You know where this is going same as me
#967 [07:17] <Chris> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
#968 [07:18] <|Kiikun|> o.o;
#969 [07:18] <Chris> I was checking for someone else, I ain't that stupid xD
#970 [07:18] <|Kiikun|> i was surprised at the reply is all... and [07:18] * Dns unable to resolve address craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
#971 [07:18] <Chris> ohh...
#972 [07:19] * Chris trys to ping...
#972 [07:19] <Thrae> craftmore.dyndns-ip.com. 60 IN A 192.168.1.66 <-- from zoneedit.com
#973 [07:19] <Chris> ahh, I think I've seen this person before
#974 [07:19] * |Kiikun| goes to bed after poking aubot!
#974 [07:20] <|Kiikun|> !paid Thrae
#975 [07:20] * |Kiikun| gasps!
#975 [07:20] <Thrae> !paid generalmx
#976 [07:20] <|Kiikun|> :P
#977 [07:20] <Shadowking65> have i paid for minecraft?
#978 [07:20] <Shadowking65> :D
#979 [07:20] <|Kiikun|> !paid Shadowking65
#980 [07:20] <Shadowking65> :)
#981 [07:20] <Chris> !paid Kiikun
#982 [07:21] <Chris> :O
#983 [07:21] * |Kiikun| ish sennyotai
#983 [07:21] <Chris> !paid sennyotai
#984 [07:21] <Chris> fair enough xD
#985 [07:21] <Shadowking65> miencraftmini can not connect
#986 [07:21] * |Kiikun| uses Kiikun on Spacechem though :D
#986 [07:22] <Shadowking65> miencraftmini buy here gameladen.com­­
#987 [07:22] <Thrae> Shadowking65: http://webchat.esper.net/ , connect to channel #minecrafthelp
#988 [07:22] <Chris> IRC is the ONLY place I've ever used 'Chris' as a username, its almost always usually taken
#989 [07:22] <Thrae> Shadowking65: Listen to WugBot
#990 [07:22] <Thrae> :scam
#991 [07:22] <WugBot> scam: Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#992 [07:22] <WugBot> scam: This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
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#994 [07:23] <Shadowking65> yeah miencraftmini
#995 [07:23] <miencraftmini> ok
#996 [07:23] <Thrae> miencraftmini: Listen to WugBot
#997 [07:23] <Thrae> :scam
#998 [07:23] <WugBot> scam: Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#999 [07:23] <WugBot> scam: This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
#1000 [07:24] <Chris> now to memorize that command...
#1001 [07:24] <Chris> there are too many commands in this channel xD
#1002 [07:24] <Thrae> I think there's also...
#1003 [07:24] <Thrae> ?? scam
#1004 [07:24] <VoxelHead> scam: If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#1005 [07:24] <VoxelHead> scam: DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
#1006 [07:24] <miencraftmini> i ve no credit card i cant buy minecraft ther i need too buy with paysafecard
#1007 [07:25] <Chris> mien, which site did you purchase minecraft from
#1008 [07:25] <miencraftmini> gameladen.com
#1009 [07:25] <Chris> ??< index
#1010 [07:26] <miencraftmini> ???
#1011 [07:26] <Shadowking65> why we can not buy with paysafecard?
#1012 [07:26] <Chris> ??> miencraftmini scam\
#1013 [07:26] <Chris> ??> miencraftmini scam
#1014 [07:26] <VoxelHead> miencraftmini: (scam) If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#1015 [07:26] <VoxelHead> miencraftmini: (scam) DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
#1016 [07:26] <Thrae> miencraftmini: The ONLY way to legally purchase Minecraft is to use Moneybookers (Skrill) or Paypal.
#1017 [07:26] <Chris> You can only buy minecraft off minecraft.net. If they don't take paysafecard then you can't use it
#1018 [07:27] <Thrae> Shadowking65: Because PaySafeCard is a debit system that doesn't act like a bank you can withdraw money from.
#1019 [07:27] <Shadowking65> ah ok
#1020 [07:27] <Thrae> Shadowking65: Mojang offers Moneybookers and Paypal which is sufficient for everyone doing international payments.
#1021 [07:28] <Thrae> miencraftmini: If you only have money through PaySafeCard you need to get someone's help and transfer money from the PaySafeCard to a Moneybookers or Paypal account.
#1022 [07:28] <Shadowking65> Are you from Mojang team?
#1023 [07:29] <Chris> Shadow, no
#1024 [07:29] <Thrae> miencraftmini: Usually what this entails is exchanging the PaySafeCard money for the Paypal or Moneybookers money.
#1025 [07:29] <Thrae> ?? accounts
#1026 [07:29] <VoxelHead> accounts: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1027 [07:29] <Thrae> We're just volunteers
#1028 [07:29] * |Kiikun| wonders is paysafecard lets you do chargebacks...
#1028 [07:30] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: I think they're a debit, not credit system
#1029 [07:30] <Shadowking65> why you see i bought the game?
#1030 [07:30] <|Kiikun|> Shadowking65: because AuBot is awsome like that? :P
#1031 [07:30] <Thrae> Shadowking65: That's public information
#1032 [07:30] <|Kiikun|> that too :P
#1033 [07:30] <Shadowking65> ok :)
#1034 [07:31] <Thrae> All we can tell is if <username> has paid for Premium, nothing else about that account's details
#1035 [07:31] <miencraftmini> ok i will ask a friend that he will buy me minecraft
#1036 [07:31] <Thrae> miencraftmini: Just make sure it's from minecraft.net!
#1037 [07:31] <miencraftmini> ok
#1038 [07:32] <miencraftmini> ohh i can report site they give minecaft cracked
#1039 [07:32] <miencraftmini> that helps orr???
#1040 [07:33] <Thrae> miencraftmini: Report them to the relevant authorities. Mojang already knows about them because they canceled your account.
#1041 [07:33] <|Kiikun|> miencraftmini: info@paysafecard.com
#1042 [07:33] <Thrae> Mojang is located in Sweden, they can't, like, press charges in Germany
#1043 [07:33] <Thrae> They're a super-tiny company which is why they use Moneybookers and Paypal
#1044 [07:34] <|Kiikun|> http://www.paysafecard.com/de/sicherheit/betrugspraevention/
#1045 [07:34] <McPlusPlus> "Betrugsprävention : paysafecard.com" at www.paysafecard.com
#1046 [07:34] <Thrae> Hmmm
#1047 [07:34] <|Kiikun|> o.o;
#1048 [07:34] <Thrae> http://www.foo.com
#1049 [07:34] <McPlusPlus> "foo.com" at www.foo.com
#1050 [07:34] <|Kiikun|> McPlusPlus: shadup
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#1052 [07:35] <Chris> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
#1053 [07:35] <Chris> wait, wrong one xD
#1054 [07:35] <Chris> oh they fixed the domain name
#1055 [07:35] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#1056 [07:36] <Grim_Reaper> !check Chris'scookies
#1057 [07:36] <Grim_Reaper> ;-;
#1058 [07:36] <miencraftmini> i ve found some sites
#1059 [07:36] <Thrae> !check reaper
#1060 [07:36] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#1061 [07:36] <Chris> bahahahah
#1062 [07:37] <Shadowking65> Very Thanks for the help
#1063 [07:38] <|Kiikun|> me go bed now! :D
#1064 [07:38] <Grim_Reaper> Me say goodnight |Kiikun|
#1065 [07:38] * |Kiikun| dreams of sky-palaces and air-boats!
#1065 [07:39] * |Kiikun| ... and Puni Puni Poemi! >:D
#1065 [07:39] <Grim_Reaper> :3
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#1067 [07:43] <Thrae> |Kiikun|: Yappappa ii shan ten!
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#1076 [08:32] <Chris> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
#1077 [08:37] <Chris> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
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#1081 [08:51] <Chris> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
#1082 [08:51] <Chris> Sorry about the spam everyone, I'm trying to help someone set up a server
#1083 [08:55] <Chris> !check 79.107.76.209
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#1085 [08:55] <Chris> !check 79.107.78.249
#1086 [08:57] <Chris> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
#1087 [08:57] <Chris> !check 79.107.78.249
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#1089 [08:57] <Thrae> Chris: You know you can do /msg AuBot !check blahblah
#1090 [08:57] <Chris> do now xD thanks
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#1098 [09:06] <MineHelp> !check
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#1100 [09:06] <Chris> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
#1101 [09:06] <Chris> did you stop the server again?
#1102 [09:06] <MineHelp> no
#1103 [09:06] <Chris> type !myip
#1104 [09:06] <Chris> wiat
#1105 [09:07] <Chris> dw its there xD
#1106 [09:07] <Chris> your ip keeps changing
#1107 [09:07] <Chris> !check 79.107.172.39
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#1110 [09:10] <Chris> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
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#1112 [09:12] <MineHelp> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
#1113 [09:13] <Sinistrahd> >_>
#1114 [09:13] <Sinistrahd> <_<
#1115 [09:13] <Sinistrahd> !check minecraft.bitgamer.com
#1116 [09:14] <Sinistrahd> figures, they never keep this stuff up for very long
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#1120 [09:17] <MineHelp> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
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#1122 [09:19] <blubber77> hi
#1123 [09:20] <blubber77> how do u get minecraft to work when it says bad login?
#1124 [09:20] <Wug> blubber77: did you pirate it
#1125 [09:20] <blubber77> no
#1126 [09:20] <Wug> do you have a premium account?
#1127 [09:20] <blubber77> yes. by the gift codes thing it says your account is already premium
#1128 [09:21] <Wug> whats your account name
#1129 [09:21] <blubber77> blubber77
#1130 [09:21] <Wug> !paid blubber77
#1131 [09:21] * Wug slaps aubot
#1131 [09:22] <Wug> closeall instances of minecraft that are running and open one
#1132 [09:22] <blubber77> yeah. when i play online after a few mins it kicks me out and says minecraft is out of memory or whatever.
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#1134 [09:22] <Wug> do you have a 64 bit computer
#1135 [09:22] <blubber77> tthen when i try to play offline it says bad login
#1136 [09:22] <blubber77> yes
#1137 [09:22] <Wug> you playing offline does not work on servers
#1138 [09:22] <Wug> install 64 bit java from this link:
#1139 [09:23] <Wug> :j
#1140 [09:23] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#1141 [09:23] <Wug> 64 bit windows version is at the bottom of the list
#1142 [09:23] <MineHelp> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
#1143 [09:24] <Chris> it'll come back in a couple seconds...
#1144 [09:24] <MineHelp> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
#1145 [09:24] <MineHelp> why does this happen?
#1146 [09:24] <Chris> minehelp, /msg AuBot !check
#1147 [09:24] <Chris> it can't connect again... just wait...
#1148 [09:24] <blubber77> ok the java thing is loading
#1149 [09:28] <Wug> Chris: we all just use the channel
#1150 [09:28] <Wug> is there an ##aubot ...?
#1151 [09:28] <Chris> ah okay, thrae told me to /msg
#1152 [09:28] <Chris> so I don't spam
#1153 [09:29] <Wug> if you do it a lot then do it privately
#1154 [09:29] <Chris> okay
#1155 [09:30] <blubber77> ok so minecraft is still running out of memory'
#1156 [09:31] <Wug> blubber77: how much ram do you have
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#1160 [09:38] <urken121> me compré el juego Minecraft por internet y se para a los 4 minutos y no se puede jugar ¿qué es lo que pasa?
#1161 [09:39] <urken121> perdón,es que se para y no se puede jugar
#1162 [09:40] <urken121> ¿por qué no se puede jugar al juego Minecraft???
#1163 [09:45] <Sinistrahd> urken121 que es su "username"?
#1164 [09:46] <Sinistrahd> urken121 (en Minecraft)
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#1166 [09:49] <Sinistrahd> oh, he was saying it freezes up...
#1167 [09:49] <Sinistrahd> too bad he gave us no time to answer
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#1171 [10:05] <everystat13> Anyone here to help?
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#1174 [10:08] <Negotiation> Is MC down?
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#1176 [10:11] <Chris> !help
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#1178 [10:12] <jasper> I tried to install too many items on minecraft and in the process totally messed it up. i have a mac. want to uninstall and reinstall but how?
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#1180 [10:12] <Chris> !isdown
#1181 [10:12] <GreyBot> Chris: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1182 [10:12] <Kalgalath> Morning folks
#1183 [10:13] <jasper> oh! that's good to know. i'll wait and see...
#1184 [10:13] <Kalgalath> I have a bit of an issue.. wondering if its just me...
#1185 [10:13] <Chris> mmhm
#1186 [10:13] <Chris> ??< index
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#1188 [10:14] <Chris> ??< mac/.minecraft
#1189 [10:14] <Kalgalath> everytime i attempt to launch the game, in browser or from the desktop I get an error message saying that java has crashed
#1190 [10:14] <Chris> ??> jasper mac/.minecraft
#1191 [10:14] <VoxelHead> jasper: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#1192 [10:14] <Kalgalath> this is after clearing the contents of my .bin folder and starting 'fresh'
#1193 [10:14] <Chris> Kalgalath, can you please upload the error to www.pastebin.com
#1194 [10:15] <Kalgalath> What part of the error would you like, the 'more info' or the 'technical info' window?
#1195 [10:15] <jasper> Chris - what do i do with minecraft folder once found
#1196 [10:15] <Chris> delete everything but the saves folder
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#1199 [10:15] <jasper> then do i reinstall as usual?
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#1201 [10:16] <Chris> yes
#1202 [10:16] <Chris> just run minecraft normally
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#1204 [10:17] <jasper> is minecraft still down? when i click on login it says CAN'T CONNECT TO MINECRAFT.NET - and there are two buttons - one "TryAgain" and the other is black but says in parentheses (Not downloaded) What's this mean?
#1205 [10:18] <Chris> !isdown
#1206 [10:18] <GreyBot> Chris: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1207 [10:18] <Chris> still down
#1208 [10:18] <Chris> jasper, you gotta wait for it to come back up
#1209 [10:19] <jasper> is that normal that it says (Not Downloaded) OR did I totally screw up my son's minecraft account (which he just got yesterday)!!
#1210 [10:19] <Kalgalath> http://pastebin.com/FXV1jY3g
#1211 [10:19] <McPlusPlus> "java crash 0086f467 - Pastebin.com" at pastebin.com
#1212 [10:19] <Chris> its fine, you just need to wait for the server to come back up
#1213 [10:19] <jasper> Thanks so much, Chris!
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#1216 [10:20] <sdousley> IS there any issues with Minecraft login at the moment?
#1217 [10:20] <Demonen> Hahaha
#1218 [10:20] <Chris> yes
#1219 [10:20] <Chris> its down
#1220 [10:20] <Chris> I think I'll just regularly spam !isdown in here or something...
#1221 [10:20] <sdousley> ah, fair enough
#1222 [10:21] <Chris> !isdown
#1223 [10:21] <GreyBot> Chris: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1224 [10:21] <Demonen> I guess this chan turns into shitstorm central when it goes down?
#1225 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Always
#1226 [10:21] <sdousley> minecraft.net seems to work ok, all be it *VERY* slow from here, but it wont let me log in to the game
#1227 [10:21] <Chris> I'd imagine so, I've never been on with mc.net down
#1228 [10:21] <Chris> sdousley, the login server isn't minecraft.net, its login.minecraft.net
#1229 [10:21] <GreyVulpine> Kalgalath - Do you know how to update your nvidia video drivers?
#1230 [10:21] <Demonen> login.minecraft.net is deadtacular!
#1231 [10:21] <sdousley> Chris: aaaaah
#1232 [10:21] <Chris> !isdown
#1233 [10:22] <GreyBot> Chris: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1234 [10:22] <Kalgalath> yes... and i havent done that in a while.... come to think of it O.o
#1235 [10:22] <Chris> I think I'll whip up an IRC bot to spam !isdown every 30 seconds...
#1236 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> Please don't
#1237 [10:22] <GreyVulpine> Kalgalath - That error you've posted, is showing nvidia video drivers at fault
#1238 [10:22] <Chris> okay :P
#1239 [10:22] <Kalgalath> ok. will update. back in a tick
#1240 [10:22] <Chris> I'll do it manually xD
#1241 [10:23] <GreyVulpine> I will have you murder you then..
#1242 [10:23] <Chris> hahaha its just till it comes back
#1243 [10:23] <Chris> !isdown
#1244 [10:23] <GreyBot> Chris: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1245 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> mollstam! Fix the website!
#1246 [10:24] * GreyVulpine kicks mollstam.
#1246 [10:24] <Kalgalath> O.o
#1247 [10:24] <Kalgalath> wow
#1248 [10:24] <Chris> Wait, is greybot checking against login.minecraft.net or minecraft.net
#1249 [10:24] <GreyVulpine> greybot's checking minecraft.net
#1250 [10:25] <Kalgalath> my driver was ver266... latest is 280 >.<
#1251 [10:25] <Chris> ah... is there any commands to check login.minecraft.net?
#1252 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> Hmm..
#1253 [10:25] <sdousley> Chris: I got a ping runnign to it, tho that does depend on ping being allowed
#1254 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1255 [10:25] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1256 [10:25] <Chris> sdousley, you pinging minecraft.net?
#1257 [10:25] <sdousley> Chris: nah, login.mc.net
#1258 [10:26] <Chris> is that the same as login.minecraft.net?
#1259 [10:26] <sdousley> yeh, I just couldn't be arsed to type "minecraft" in the url on here lol
#1260 [10:26] <Chris> I don't think pinging it is a good idea
#1261 [10:26] <Chris> pinging it is usually what brings down a server
#1262 [10:26] <sdousley> nah
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#1264 [10:26] <sdousley> excessive pinging might
#1265 [10:26] <Kalgalath> ugh.. i suppose i should update the rest of my drivers... been slacking
#1266 [10:26] <d222> hello
#1267 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> minecraft is down. Yes.
#1268 [10:27] <Chris> I don't think you should ping more, it might just be adding to the stress sdously
#1269 [10:27] <sdousley> if one person pinging a server would go down, I could kill Amazon/Google like that
#1270 [10:27] <Chris> hahaha grey
#1271 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> Chris- Been doing this way too long.
#1272 [10:27] <drupal> hello
#1273 [10:27] <d222> minecraft.net is down to be more prisst
#1274 [10:27] <Chris> sdousley I know that, but if its adding to the stress then it shouldn't be done
#1275 [10:27] <drupal> please help
#1276 [10:27] <Chris> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1277 [10:27] <GreyBot> Chris: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1278 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> drupal - With?
#1279 [10:27] <drupal> minecraft
#1280 [10:27] * westjgames [westjgames@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1281 [10:27] <Chris> drupal, be more specifig
#1282 [10:27] <GreyVulpine> minecraft login is down at the moment
#1283 [10:27] <sdousley> Chris: yeh, ping doesn't put much stress on it though, but I see your point.
#1284 [10:27] <Chris> specific**
#1285 [10:28] <drupal> only Opeth can help me HELP
#1286 [10:28] <d222> minecraft.net is down meaning jeb is working on it
#1287 [10:28] <d222> what do you think he is adding?
#1288 [10:28] <GreyVulpine> jeb isn't in charge of the website
#1289 [10:28] <Chris> sdousley, if pinging brought it down and is still going, it would
#1290 [10:28] <Opeth> drupal...What is it?
#1291 [10:28] <sdousley> Chris: true
#1292 [10:28] <westjgames> Well, within 5 seconds of connecting to the IRC, my question is answered LOL
#1293 [10:28] <d222> who is incharge on the website GreyVulpine?
#1294 [10:28] <Chris> and cause we don't know, I'd recommend either lowering the ping rate or just not pinging
#1295 [10:28] * GreyVulpine is just that good
#1295 [10:28] * GreyVulpine stabs mollstam
#1295 [10:28] <Chris> we just use GreyBot to ping every now and again
#1296 [10:29] <d222> any idea why it could be down?
#1297 [10:29] <sdousley> westjgames: and you didn't even have to ask the question :D
#1298 [10:29] <westjgames> lol, yeah
#1299 [10:29] <GreyVulpine> d222 - It's minecraft, you really don't have to ask
#1300 [10:29] <drupal> d222: people are pinging it too much
#1301 [10:29] <Chris> isn't it minecrafts peak time atm?
#1302 [10:29] * emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE [emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1303 [10:29] <westjgames> I need to get back to my server, more ponies to make
#1304 [10:29] <Chris> or somethign like that
#1305 [10:29] <Chris> emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE: PING
#1306 [10:29] <emanfman> WOW. just wow.
#1307 [10:29] <Chris> cause I did it before you changed, do I die?
#1308 [10:30] <Chris> just a heads up, minecraft.net is down
#1309 [10:30] <Kalgalath> Grey.. how did you know thatt he java error i posted was a nvidia driver error?
#1310 [10:30] <emanfman> yes
#1311 [10:30] <emanfman> I am also pingable as emanfman ever since you recommended xchat to me
#1312 [10:30] <westjgames> Kalgath: OpenGL results in most errors if it aint present
#1313 [10:30] <Chris> kalgalath, it almost always is
#1314 [10:30] <Kalgalath> ah
#1315 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Kalgalath - ModName: nvoglnt.dll -- Nvidia opengl
#1316 [10:31] <sdousley> westjgames: ponies :o
#1317 [10:31] <Chris> the 2 main fixes we try is update java and nvidia drivers
#1318 [10:31] <westjgames> That why I recommend a HD6870 by ATi
#1319 [10:31] <Chris> nvidia <3
#1320 [10:31] <Chris> :P
#1321 [10:31] <westjgames> like wat i got :D
#1322 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> ATI driver support is even worse
#1323 [10:31] <sdousley> Getting me a 550GTX next month I think
#1324 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> Has been for years
#1325 [10:31] <westjgames> Never had an issue :.
#1326 [10:31] <Kalgalath> =curses=
#1327 [10:32] <emanfman> i gots ATi 4250HD
#1328 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> You haven't been in this channel long..
#1329 [10:32] <Kalgalath> everytime i attempt to update it fails.
#1330 [10:32] <Kalgalath> irritating
#1331 [10:32] <westjgames> Ive actually had more problems with legacy monitors on nVidia than on ATi
#1332 [10:32] <emanfman> who, me?
#1333 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> ATI cards on *nix have been notoriously crappy way before minecraft rolled around.
#1334 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> I can't count the number of times fglrx drivers have basically stopped a *nix user from playing minecraft at all
#1335 [10:33] <westjgames> I had an ADI170D CRT screen. The monitor would always flash, unless I used an ATi Crad
#1336 [10:33] <westjgames> *Card
#1337 [10:33] <emanfman> thats just your hz rate
#1338 [10:33] <emanfman> you could turn that up with any card
#1339 [10:34] <westjgames> no, that was ANy hz rate at any resolution
#1340 [10:34] <Chris> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1341 [10:34] <GreyBot> Chris: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1342 [10:34] <westjgames> it wasnt flickering, it was flashing
#1343 [10:34] <westjgames> like at 2 hz
#1344 [10:34] <emanfman> ouch
#1345 [10:34] <westjgames> flash, off, flash, off etc
#1346 [10:34] <emanfman> new monitor?
#1347 [10:34] <westjgames> 2 new monitors to be exact
#1348 [10:34] <westjgames> and a new graphics card
#1349 [10:35] <westjgames> But now I need new CPU
#1350 [10:35] <sdousley> wat i got :D
#1351 [10:35] <emanfman> lol
#1352 [10:35] <emanfman> i was gonns say
#1353 [10:35] <emanfman> *gonna
#1354 [10:35] <westjgames> Pentium Dual-Core G6950 just doesnt cut it
#1355 [10:35] <emanfman> D:
#1356 [10:35] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1357 [10:35] <emanfman> Pentium? intel processor?
#1358 [10:35] <westjgames> Intel
#1359 [10:35] <emanfman> what a joke, of course you need a new one!
#1360 [10:35] * Kalgalath [Kalgalath@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1361 [10:36] <emanfman> I use the AMD Vision Dual Core
#1362 [10:36] <Kalgalath> bah
#1363 [10:36] <westjgames> :/ I know AMD are cheaper, but getting hold of one from a shop retailer is soo friggen hard due to Intel's contracts
#1364 [10:36] <Kalgalath> had to do a clean install
#1365 [10:36] <emanfman> Well I bought one from the start
#1366 [10:36] <westjgames> I do not buy parts online
#1367 [10:36] * matti [matti@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1368 [10:36] <westjgames> never
#1369 [10:37] <Kalgalath> and apparently either i was updating while drunk or asleep or someone was messing with my box cos it finally tells me i had data from an incompatible driver
#1370 [10:37] <emanfman> I don't either
#1371 [10:37] <westjgames> ill check if MC is up...
#1372 [10:37] <Kalgalath> install successful. brb
#1373 [10:37] <emanfman> it's not
#1374 [10:37] <emanfman> !isdown minecraft.net
#1375 [10:37] <westjgames> My launcher froze :/
#1376 [10:37] <GreyBot> emanfman: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1377 [10:37] <Chris> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1378 [10:37] <GreyBot> Chris: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1379 [10:38] <emanfman> I like to do the whole domain, chris
#1380 [10:38] <emanfman> a subdomain wouldnt tell enything
#1381 [10:38] <Chris> fair enough :P
#1382 [10:38] <Chris> the subdomain is the login server
#1383 [10:38] <westjgames> Well, I guess that gives me time to update my server's website...
#1384 [10:38] <emanfman> you would have to do download.minecraft.net too so people can update
#1385 [10:38] * Shadowking65 [Shadowking65@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1386 [10:38] <Shadowking65> Hey
#1387 [10:39] <Calinou> !isdown
#1388 [10:39] <GreyBot> Calinou: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1389 [10:39] <Calinou> can't connect to minecraft.net >_<
#1390 [10:39] <Shadowking65> I am back :)
#1391 [10:39] <Shadowking65> !isdown
#1392 [10:39] <GreyBot> Shadowking65: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1393 [10:39] * mib_3c5fhp [mib_3c5fhp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1394 [10:39] <emanfman> i just do minecraft.net, its much more simple
#1395 [10:39] <emanfman> ?!?
#1396 [10:39] <Calinou> the servers are having problems
#1397 [10:39] <emanfman> !isdown minecraft.net
#1398 [10:39] <GreyBot> emanfman: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1399 [10:39] <westjgames> !isdown google.com
#1400 [10:39] <GreyBot> westjgames: It's just you. http://google.com is up.
#1401 [10:39] <westjgames> LOL
#1402 [10:39] <Calinou> auth servers ARE having problems
#1403 [10:40] <emanfman> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1404 [10:40] <GreyBot> emanfman: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1405 [10:40] <emanfman> aha
#1406 [10:40] * EvillLynx [EvillLynx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1407 [10:40] <mib_3c5fhp> does anyone know why when i try to connect and play minecraft it says unable to connet with minecraft.net
#1408 [10:40] <EvillLynx> !isdown
#1409 [10:40] * Pulec [Pulec@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1410 [10:40] <GreyBot> EvillLynx: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1411 [10:40] <emanfman> chris wons!
#1412 [10:40] * G4JC [G4JC@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1413 [10:40] <westjgames> HUH
#1414 [10:40] <emanfman> *wins
#1415 [10:40] <Shadowking65> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1416 [10:40] <GreyBot> Shadowking65: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1417 [10:40] <westjgames> ^^^^
#1418 [10:40] <G4JC> Hello, I would like to obtain permission to use a few textures from minecraft for use in a racing game track. I'd also mention Mojang owns all the rights etc. But how would I got about getting permission? :)
#1419 [10:40] <Chris> G4JC, just do it xD
#1420 [10:40] <G4JC> Chris: That's called ripping. :P
#1421 [10:40] <emanfman> its legal
#1422 [10:40] <Chris> Mojang don't really care
#1423 [10:40] <Shadowking65> I Can not connect why?
#1424 [10:40] <Chris> shadow, tis down
#1425 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> G4JC - Email daniel@mojang.com
#1426 [10:40] <westjgames> Isnt Minecraft closed-source?
#1427 [10:40] <emanfman> it comes with the game, youre safe
#1428 [10:41] <Shadowking65> ok
#1429 [10:41] <G4JC> westjgames: thanks
#1430 [10:41] <Calinou> racing game track > Q3rally? :P
#1431 [10:41] <G4JC> GreyVulpine: * thanks :)
#1432 [10:41] <emanfman> you bought it, and the (cc) to the pics
#1433 [10:41] <Calinou> minecraft is closed source
#1434 [10:41] <Calinou> (unfortunately)
#1435 [10:41] <Calinou> technically mods are illegal
#1436 [10:41] <Calinou> ;)
#1437 [10:41] <emanfman> no theyre no
#1438 [10:41] <emanfman> *not
#1439 [10:41] <mib_3c5fhp> it still says when i try to login on launcher cant connect to minecraft.net
#1440 [10:41] <Calinou> you're decomplining the source which is clearly illegal
#1441 [10:41] <Chris> mib, its down
#1442 [10:41] * Kalgalath [Kalgalath@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1443 [10:41] <Calinou> mib_3c5fhp: servers are down, wait
#1444 [10:41] <Calinou> patience is a virtue!
#1445 [10:41] <Shadowking65> :(
#1446 [10:41] <westjgames> Anyone know how to patch the ogg files so I can play Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites instead of cat?
#1447 [10:41] * RobinJ24 [RobinJ24@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1448 [10:41] <emanfman> redistribution of jars are illegal, modifying them is not
#1449 [10:42] <RobinJ24> Wtf is wrong with Minecraft.net?
#1450 [10:42] <Calinou> replace them, put them as read only
#1451 [10:42] <westjgames> everything atm
#1452 [10:42] * bernard [bernard@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1453 [10:42] <Calinou> server. is. down. period. wait. patience. is. a. virtue.
#1454 [10:42] <bernard> hi
#1455 [10:42] <mib_3c5fhp> how long till severs back online
#1456 [10:42] <Calinou> done, copied it...
#1457 [10:42] <bernard> I have a problem
#1458 [10:42] <Shadowking65> my friend can connect
#1459 [10:42] <Chris> mib, no idea
#1460 [10:42] <bernard> can you help me?
#1461 [10:42] <Calinou> don't ask to ask
#1462 [10:42] <westjgames> READ NLY jeez *facedesk*
#1463 [10:42] <emanfman> someone update the /topic, we need everyone to know
#1464 [10:42] * frogaincia [frogaincia@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1465 [10:42] <Chris> bernard, minecraft.net is down if that was your question
#1466 [10:42] <Calinou> nobody reads the topic <_>
#1467 [10:42] <RobinJ24> My life is over...
#1468 [10:42] <RobinJ24> Minecraft OFFLINE???
#1469 [10:42] <bernard> oh
#1470 [10:42] <Chris> yes
#1471 [10:42] <bernard> thanks ^^
#1472 [10:42] <frogaincia> why cant i connect to server?
#1473 [10:42] <emanfman> !isdown minecraft.net
#1474 [10:42] <GreyBot> emanfman: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
#1475 [10:42] <Calinou> <Calinou> server. is. down. period. wait. patience. is. a. virtue.
#1476 [10:42] * mib_gmgmm4 [mib_gmgmm4@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1477 [10:42] <RobinJ24> I did read the topic
#1478 [10:42] <bernard> LOL
#1479 [10:42] <emanfman> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1480 [10:42] <Calinou> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1481 [10:42] <GreyBot> emanfman: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1482 [10:42] <GreyBot> Calinou: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1483 [10:43] * ruupi01 [ruupi01@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1484 [10:43] <emanfman> !isdown download.minecraft.net
#1485 [10:43] <ruupi01> hey
#1486 [10:43] <GreyBot> emanfman: It's not just you! http://download.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1487 [10:43] <westjgames> !isdown google.com
#1488 [10:43] <GreyBot> westjgames: It's just you. http://google.com is up.
#1489 [10:43] <Ketsueki> ... freaking thingy
#1490 [10:43] <Calinou> <Calinou> server. is. down. period. wait. patience. is. a. virtue.
#1491 [10:43] <westjgames> just thought i throw that in there...
#1492 [10:43] <emanfman> !topic
#1493 [10:43] <emanfman> darnit
#1494 [10:43] <Calinou> it's /topic
#1495 [10:43] <emanfman> aha...
#1496 [10:43] <emanfman> i did it
#1497 [10:43] <westjgames> what else can the isdown do?
#1498 [10:43] <emanfman> can someone please update?
#1499 [10:43] <ruupi01> is miencraft.net down?
#1500 [10:43] <RobinJ24> lol westjgames...
#1501 [10:44] <Calinou> check if any site is down
#1502 [10:44] <westjgames> !isdown mc.maxfunbuild.com
#1503 [10:44] <Calinou> <Calinou> server. is. down. period. wait. patience. is. a. virtue.
#1504 [10:44] <GreyBot> westjgames: It's just you. http://mc.maxfunbuild.com is up.
#1505 [10:44] <emanfman> !isdown yomamma
#1506 [10:44] <Calinou> no advertising westjgames
#1507 [10:44] <westjgames> +)
#1508 [10:44] <Calinou> language please emanfman
#1509 [10:44] <Shadowking65> !isdown mylife.com
#1510 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> Don't spam with the bot
#1511 [10:44] <GreyBot> Shadowking65: It's just you. http://mylife.com is up.
#1512 [10:44] <Chris> westjgames, use !check
#1513 [10:44] <emanfman> sorry
#1514 [10:44] <GreyVulpine> I will kick
#1515 [10:44] <RobinJ24> Stop the bot spam plz
#1516 [10:44] <westjgames> wasnt advertising, but I do want that IRC plugin :)
#1517 [10:44] <Shadowking65> hey mylife is online :D
#1518 [10:44] <Chris> to check a minecraft server, use !check
#1519 [10:44] <Calinou> it's a bot... code it yourself :P and we invented "ping" and browsers for a reason
#1520 [10:44] <westjgames> is it called isdown, or something else?
#1521 [10:44] <frogaincia> i can connect from launcher but can from website but i get black screen...
#1522 [10:44] <frogaincia> cant*
#1523 [10:44] <mib_3c5fhp> how do we check minecraft servers
#1524 [10:44] <westjgames> ^??
#1525 [10:45] <Calinou> ping server > quit using windows > ??? > PROFIT
#1526 [10:45] <Calinou> <Calinou> server. is. down. period. wait. patience. is. a. virtue.
#1527 [10:45] <westjgames> LOL
#1528 [10:45] <Chris> mib !check
#1529 [10:45] <RobinJ24> westjgames Do you know how to code..
#1530 [10:45] <mib_3c5fhp> !chack
#1531 [10:45] <Chris> C# <3
#1532 [10:45] <frogaincia> when will minecraft be up?
#1533 [10:45] <westjgames> not really
#1534 [10:45] <RobinJ24> They probably didnt download all the codes for the bot
#1535 [10:45] <westjgames> i know C++
#1536 [10:45] <mib_3c5fhp> !check
#1537 [10:45] <Chris> frog, jsut wait
#1538 [10:45] <Calinou> lol C#... C++ ftw :P
#1539 [10:45] <westjgames> a bit of VB6
#1540 [10:45] * guest-745462-04861 [guest-745462-04861@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1541 [10:45] <Calinou> no advertising!
#1542 [10:45] <Calinou> haha lol VB6. guys, quit being offtopic
#1543 [10:45] <Calinou> this is a *support* channel
#1544 [10:45] <Shadowking65> !check
#1545 [10:46] <emanfman> C++ support anyonw?
#1546 [10:46] <emanfman> *anyone
#1547 [10:46] <mib_3c5fhp> !check evrcraft.sytes.net:25565
#1548 [10:46] <westjgames> well, I cant find a vb6 server anywhere, try googling it, there's nobody
#1549 [10:46] * kaerondaes [kaerondaes@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1550 [10:46] <Chris> guys, stop the bot spam
#1551 [10:46] <RobinJ24> Stop the bot spam
#1552 [10:46] <emanfman> stop the bot spam!
#1553 [10:46] <emanfman> (exclamation point!)
#1554 [10:46] <mib_3c5fhp> !check evercraft.sytes.net:25565
#1555 [10:46] <RobinJ24> OMG WILL IT EVER STOP
#1556 [10:46] <emanfman> mib! enough!
#1557 [10:46] <Chris> please /msg the bot you want to use
#1558 [10:46] <Calinou> NO. ADVERTISING mib_3c5fhp
#1559 [10:46] <RobinJ24> seriously mib_3c5fhp
#1560 [10:46] <Calinou> GreyVulpine: kicks, please... and change topic ;)
#1561 [10:47] <frogaincia> whats mib_3c5fp?
#1562 [10:47] <G4JC> a mibbit user
#1563 [10:47] <G4JC> -.-
#1564 [10:47] <frogaincia> oh
#1565 [10:47] <GreyVulpine> !topic add Minecraft is down.
#1566 [10:47] <mib_3c5fhp> its says now cant login to server the bad login
#1567 [10:47] <G4JC> since it's semi-anonymous they spam sometimes :P
#1568 [10:47] <G4JC> anyways I went ahead and wrote daniel
#1569 [10:47] <G4JC> thanks guys :D
#1570 [10:47] <kaerondaes> Hello! Not only is Minecraft down, but I have discovered that I must have long ago uninstalled my IRC software.
#1571 [10:48] <frogaincia> is minecraft down for update?
#1572 [10:48] <emanfman> .query chris
#1573 [10:48] <emanfman> oops
#1574 [10:48] <RobinJ24> You should make it caps
#1575 [10:48] <RobinJ24> Like
#1576 [10:48] <RobinJ24> !!!!!NOTE: MINECRAFT IS _DOWN_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1577 [10:48] <RobinJ24> I know people will join and say
#1578 [10:48] <kaerondaes> Since I saw others just making a comment about this... I suppose I am not alone, and not much is to be done.
#1579 [10:48] <kaerondaes> Is 1.9 coming out or did someone just unplug something by accident?
#1580 [10:48] <G4JC> website is still up - http://www.isup.me/minecraft.net
#1581 [10:48] <Calinou> going to play offline 8)
#1582 [10:49] <RobinJ24> weird
#1583 [10:49] <mib_3c5fhp> i want to paly multiplayer
#1584 [10:49] <RobinJ24> I think im lagging..
#1585 [10:49] <RobinJ24> mib_3c5fhp Too bad
#1586 [10:49] <frogaincia> i think notch slipped on some bannana peel and destroyed the server :/
#1587 [10:49] <westjgames> Where is the AU bot, my US server has 117ms latency, but the Aus server I play on is 347?
#1588 [10:49] <G4JC> mib_3c5fhp: That's why they made MCForge+ :P
#1589 [10:49] <G4JC> Direct Connect, but it's classic only
#1590 [10:50] <mib_3c5fhp> wtf is wrong wit minecraft launcher
#1591 [10:50] <westjgames> Spam keep trying = story of my life message
#1592 [10:50] <frogaincia> server is down
#1593 [10:51] <frogaincia> dude
#1594 [10:51] * mib_uja7sg [mib_uja7sg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1595 [10:51] <kaerondaes> Ah, I was just able to connect... Okay, thanks.
#1596 [10:51] <mib_uja7sg> SALUT
#1597 [10:51] <mib_uja7sg> j'ai un bug
#1598 [10:51] <westjgames> Bollucks
#1599 [10:51] <frogaincia> notch probs updating minecraft to 1.9.4 or hes just got a new server rack or something :P
#1600 [10:51] <mib_uja7sg> une personne est francais ?
#1601 [10:51] <Demonen> Hahaha, while everyone and his horse tries to connect, of course it's dead.
#1602 [10:52] <GreyVulpine> non
#1603 [10:52] <mib_uja7sg> mdr
#1604 [10:52] <mib_uja7sg> j'ai besoin d'aide
#1605 [10:52] <mib_3c5fhp> when will everythin be runniin again
#1606 [10:52] <mib_3c5fhp> :(
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#1608 [10:52] <frogaincia> i think notch should donate his hat to charity...itll be worth god...knows :O
#1609 [10:52] <keret> Hey all, anyone having issues connecting to the servers?
#1610 [10:53] <Chris> its down keret
#1611 [10:53] <emanfman> read the /topic
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#1613 [10:53] <frogaincia> everyone is
#1614 [10:53] <keret> 3: Awww
#1615 [10:53] <frogaincia> wheres the topic
#1616 [10:53] <frogaincia> im lazy
#1617 [10:53] <frogaincia> to find it
#1618 [10:53] <Chris> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1619 [10:53] <GreyVulpine> As you can see, nobody reads the topic
#1620 [10:53] <GreyBot> Chris: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1621 [10:53] <mib_3c5fhp> i want tp paly
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#1623 [10:53] <frogaincia> u can play singleplayer dudes
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#1625 [10:53] <frogaincia> just not mp
#1626 [10:53] <keret> All my stuff is on my server xD
#1627 [10:53] <yoshi> hello?
#1628 [10:54] * pudgetta [pudgetta@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1629 [10:54] <frogaincia> transfer it to singleplayer?
#1630 [10:54] <pudgetta> is minecraft down?
#1631 [10:54] <keret> Eeeyup
#1632 [10:54] <pudgetta> i mean the server?
#1633 [10:54] <emanfman> use /topic
#1634 [10:54] <pudgetta> hallo?
#1635 [10:54] <yoshi> ich have a quests i cant login bei mincraft can you healp me idont now wher i can download the full game
#1636 [10:54] <emanfman> please read the /topic
#1637 [10:54] <Ketsueki> They changed the IP on the auth server from what I can see between my VPS and my local system
#1638 [10:55] <Ketsueki> login.minecraft.net. 900 IN CNAME auth-1948379932.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com.
#1639 [10:55] <Ketsueki> auth-1948379932.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com. 22 IN A 107.20.210.251
#1640 [10:55] <Ketsueki> auth-1948379932.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com. 60 IN A 50.16.239.172
#1641 [10:55] <frogaincia> dude...
#1642 [10:55] <pudgetta> hi if i want to login it says cant connect to minecraft.net
#1643 [10:55] <emanfman> please read the /topic
#1644 [10:55] <GreyVulpine> pudgetta - Server's down
#1645 [10:55] <kalgalath> Grey, or Chris.. you still here?
#1646 [10:55] <Chris> its down pudgetta
#1647 [10:55] <Chris> yes
#1648 [10:55] <keret> Hahaha. The logic servers are down
#1649 [10:55] <keret> XD
#1650 [10:55] <pudgetta> thanks
#1651 [10:55] * mib_ynjf4z [mib_ynjf4z@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1652 [10:55] <Chris> its down mib
#1653 [10:55] <Chris> just sayin
#1654 [10:55] <emanfman> lol
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#1656 [10:55] <Chris> its down shadow
#1657 [10:56] <emanfman> please read the /topic
#1658 [10:56] <Chris> just sayin
#1659 [10:56] <kalgalath> ok... video driver is now the latest and greatest nvidia has to offer
#1660 [10:56] <westjgames> taking forever to log in...
#1661 [10:56] <keret> Uhmm. As far as /topic is concerned, i didn't see "MINECRAFT LOGIN SERVER IS DOWN"
#1662 [10:56] <kalgalath> java is still crashing
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#1664 [10:56] <Chris> its at the end keret
#1665 [10:56] <keret> It was at the end :/
#1666 [10:56] <yoshi> how ic can play this game offline?
#1667 [10:56] <Chris> not in caps tho
#1668 [10:56] <Ketsueki> However the whole freaking POINT of cnames is so that you can have one thing point to multiple DNS A / AAAA records and swap out a deprecated system for a replacement without users really noticing.
#1669 [10:56] <Chris> yoshi, hit the play offline button
#1670 [10:56] <emanfman> ill do a read the topic whenever someone logs in
#1671 [10:56] <keret> I know. It doesn't stand out
#1672 [10:56] <frogaincia> gonna make a cuppa and wait for the server to recover from the mass creeper horde :(
#1673 [10:56] <emanfman> put in "minecraft is down" in caps or something
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#1675 [10:56] <Chris> Its down Robin, just sayin
#1676 [10:57] <emanfman> please read the /topic
#1677 [10:57] <yoshi> but i must download this game first ^^ how i can do this
#1678 [10:57] <RobinJ24> Chris Yea I know
#1679 [10:57] <yoshi> i have only the launcher 0o
#1680 [10:57] <frogaincia> put minecraft is down in caps, bold and size 1000
#1681 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Can't, until the servers come back up yoshi
#1682 [10:57] <Chris> we should write a bot to say whenever someone joins that the server is down
#1683 [10:57] <westjgames> make a bot say "MINECRAFT IS DOWN every 3 seconds, that'll work
#1684 [10:57] <Chris> or just send them a /notice
#1685 [10:57] <emanfman> no
#1686 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Chris - They still won't read it
#1687 [10:57] <yoshi> oh thx
#1688 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> ~minecraft down
#1689 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> erm
#1690 [10:57] <emanfman> just make a bot say it whener someone logs in
#1691 [10:57] <keret> They might read it
#1692 [10:57] <keret> o:
#1693 [10:57] <frogaincia> guys
#1694 [10:57] <frogaincia> i got an idea
#1695 [10:57] <Chris> Grey, if I send a /notice <person> MINECRAFT.NET IS DOWN, PLEASE BE PATIENT on join, would that work?
#1696 [10:57] <keret> -gasp-
#1697 [10:57] <westjgames> Play Counterstrike?
#1698 [10:57] <emanfman> yes
#1699 [10:57] <GreyVulpine> Chris - One moment
#1700 [10:58] <kalgalath> Grey.. when you have a sec
#1701 [10:58] <yoshi> i have buy this game befor 2 minutes an why i can donload this when the server is on? ^^
#1702 [10:58] <frogaincia> use our brain powers to control their minds slapping them when they ask why cant i connect?
#1703 [10:58] <emanfman> its not
#1704 [10:58] <emanfman> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1705 [10:58] <GreyBot> emanfman: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1706 [10:58] <emanfman> !isdown download.minecraft.net
#1707 [10:58] <GreyBot> emanfman: It's not just you! http://download.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1708 [10:58] <emanfman> there you go
#1709 [10:58] <keret> I can log in from the minecraft.net website. But i guess that login and the login.minecraft.net
#1710 [10:59] <Chris> keret, its down
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#1712 [10:59] <keret> are different.
#1713 [10:59] <Chris> keret, its ALL down
#1714 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> ~minecraft down
#1715 [10:59] <iThatWhiteGuy> Hi, I bought minecraft for just about two days ago, and when i tried to login today, it said "Can't connect to minecraft. So i tried to delete minecraft to see if it helped me out. but the message stayed almost the same. but now it says "(not downloaded)" so i tried to download it once again. but it still dosnt work. what to do? i'm running with a Mac
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#1717 [10:59] <emanfman> please read the /topic
#1718 [10:59] <Chris> *minecraft* is down, just wait
#1719 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> iThatWhiteGuy - Minecraft is down
#1720 [10:59] <westjgames> this is utter silliness, im gonna go post some ponies...
#1721 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Chris - I've set one of our bots to message minecraft is down
#1722 [10:59] <keret> Chris y'all are going to have fun today xD
#1723 [10:59] <Chris> and by * i mean wildcard not bold
#1724 [10:59] <Negoveio> Any threads with updates?
#1725 [10:59] <GreyVulpine> Negoveio - No
#1726 [10:59] <keret> westtjgames good idea XD
#1727 [10:59] <Chris> keret yes we will
#1728 [10:59] <Negoveio> so it's just down,with no warning/whatsoever?
#1729 [11:00] <iThatWhiteGuy> So, when is it up?
#1730 [11:00] <Chris> Yep, pretty much
#1731 [11:00] <keret> Apparently
#1732 [11:00] <Chris> no idea iThatWhiteGuy
#1733 [11:00] <Negoveio> shieeee
#1734 [11:00] <yoshi> can you say me when the server on is today?
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#1736 [11:00] <emanfman> Hello newcomer, please red the topic
#1737 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> That's me
#1738 [11:00] <Negoveio> just keep the launcher ope
#1739 [11:00] <frogaincia> guys is this true....?
#1740 [11:00] <keret> I wanna see the launcher message o:
#1741 [11:00] <emanfman> lol
#1742 [11:00] <frogaincia> Two days until feature freeze for the full version of Minecraft. #nervous #stressed #awesomed
#1743 [11:00] * Gribonn53 [Gribonn53@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1744 [11:00] <emanfman> Hello newcomer, please read the /topic
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#1746 [11:00] <Gribonn53> hello
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#1748 [11:00] <emanfman> Hello newcomer, please read the /topic
#1749 [11:00] <GreyVulpine> emanfman - Please stop
#1750 [11:00] <emanfman> ok sorry
#1751 [11:00] <frogaincia> guys
#1752 [11:01] <Chris> is eman a bot or just Up, enter ing
#1753 [11:01] <frogaincia> read what i said
#1754 [11:01] <frogaincia> notch posted it
#1755 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> I've got the bot to notice everybody on join in
#1756 [11:01] <frogaincia> on twiter
#1757 [11:01] <emanfman> im just up entering
#1758 [11:01] * PENGUINS [PENGUINS@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1759 [11:01] <Gribonn53> so i'm having this little problem with one server
#1760 [11:01] <emanfman> rather control-v entering
#1761 [11:01] <Chris> Gribonn53: the server is down
#1762 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> emanfman - No need, bot's got it
#1763 [11:01] <PENGUINS> Cool the warning message is warning. :3
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#1766 [11:01] <kalgalath> Grey.. I am still recieving the same error.. only this has changed ModVer: 6.14.12.8026 Offset: 00939e87
#1767 [11:01] <emanfman> ok
#1768 [11:01] <frogaincia> EVERYONE READ!!!! - Two days until feature freeze for the full version of Minecraft. #nervous #stressed #awesomed
#1769 [11:01] <Gribonn53> oh, ty
#1770 [11:01] <emanfman> i was just doing it until the bot was up
#1771 [11:01] <RobinJ24> McPlusPlus /noticed me
#1772 [11:01] <GreyVulpine> kalgalath - Pastebin the entire error?
#1773 [11:01] <Chris> frog, stop spammin
#1774 [11:02] <frogaincia> im not spamming
#1775 [11:02] <frogaincia> no1 reading it
#1776 [11:02] <Negoveio> yes,we all check his twitter
#1777 [11:02] <Negoveio> yes,you are posting obvious things
#1778 [11:02] <emanfman> a feature freeze doesnt mean the site is down
#1779 [11:02] <emanfman> it just means no more updates
#1780 [11:02] <RobinJ24> and just cause no one reads it doesnt mean you can send it over and over
#1781 [11:02] <westjgames> frod, ur full of it, im on twitter NOW, and i cant find what u said
#1782 [11:02] <Negoveio> nope it doesnt
#1783 [11:02] <PENGUINS> feature freeze for full version of minecraft... Lul wut
#1784 [11:02] <PENGUINS> Is the game actually coming out of beta?
#1785 [11:02] <PENGUINS> :o
#1786 [11:02] <RobinJ24> PENGUINS: UNTIL
#1787 [11:03] <Negoveio> feature freeze means no new content anymore,because theyll launch the "full version"
#1788 [11:03] <RobinJ24> Lol lots of caps there..
#1789 [11:03] <Negoveio> no more features FOR NOW
#1790 [11:03] <PENGUINS> MINECRAFT IS COMING OUT OF BETS D:
#1791 [11:03] <Negoveio> doesnt mean they wont add/update it after this
#1792 [11:03] <RobinJ24> ...
#1793 [11:03] <PENGUINS> BETA*
#1794 [11:03] <PENGUINS> Notch won't care about us anymore TT__TT
#1795 [11:03] <RobinJ24> ...
#1796 [11:03] <Negoveio> >facepalm
#1797 [11:03] <emanfman> aw, shaddup
#1798 [11:03] <RobinJ24> I have no wrods
#1799 [11:03] <Negoveio> neither do i,robinj24
#1800 [11:03] * emanfman kills penguins
#1800 [11:03] <Negoveio> LOL
#1801 [11:04] <Chris> noooo!!!!!
#1802 [11:04] <Negoveio> PETA is on you
#1803 [11:04] <Chris> not the penguins
#1804 [11:04] * PENGUINS dies
#1804 [11:04] <Chris> hahaha
#1805 [11:04] <RobinJ24> I tried to type but all I could say was
#1806 [11:04] <RobinJ24> "...."
#1807 [11:04] * emanfman revives penguins
#1807 [11:04] * PENGUINS are ALIIIIVE
#1807 [11:04] * emanfman slaps PENGUINS
#1807 [11:04] * Negoveio begs for you to stop this
#1807 [11:04] * emanfman stops... oh wait ��
#1807 [11:04] <RobinJ24> PENGUINS: No, you dumbflurk, Minecraft will be released next month
#1808 [11:04] * PENGUINS like fishies.
#1808 [11:04] <kalgalath> http://pastebin.com/7nvVxFQ5
#1809 [11:04] <RobinJ24> Released = Out of beta = Full version
#1810 [11:04] <frogaincia> "farts"...
#1811 [11:04] <emanfman> till then, they freeze
#1812 [11:04] <GreyVulpine> PENGUINS - Stop
#1813 [11:05] <McPlusPlus> "Java error 00939e87 - Pastebin.com" at pastebin.com
#1814 [11:05] <RobinJ24> Full version does NOT = no more updates
#1815 [11:05] <Negoveio> /\ this
#1816 [11:05] <PENGUINS> Nuu.. Means us beta testers are no longer beta :(
#1817 [11:05] <emanfman> feature freeze means no more updates!
#1818 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> kalgalath - Still showing that nvidia video driver..
#1819 [11:05] <emanfman> i never said full version does that
#1820 [11:05] <GreyVulpine> kalgalath - You did update from nvidia.com, right?
#1821 [11:05] <Negoveio> i'm alpha tester,i'm one of the 20000 first buyers,so what?
#1822 [11:05] <RobinJ24> PENGUINS: lol what the hell are you talking about..
#1823 [11:05] <kalgalath> I know... but look at the modver
#1824 [11:06] <PENGUINS> No one shall ever know. :B
#1825 [11:06] <Gribonn53> so whens the server up again?
#1826 [11:06] <PENGUINS> Dunno
#1827 [11:06] <RobinJ24> No one knows
#1828 [11:06] <kalgalath> thats the driver iteration number.. and its the latest that nvidia has
#1829 [11:06] <Negoveio> no updates on that,gribonn53
#1830 [11:06] <frogaincia> i was the first person to....
#1831 [11:06] <Chris> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1832 [11:06] <Gribonn53> anyways
#1833 [11:06] <Negoveio> did anyone check all the twitters?
#1834 [11:06] <GreyBot> Chris: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1835 [11:06] <Chris> I heard a rumour that its back up..
#1836 [11:06] <frogaincia> i did
#1837 [11:06] <frogaincia> look
#1838 [11:06] <frogaincia> ill copy it all
#1839 [11:06] <Gribonn53> i had a problem with a minecraft server (not login server)
#1840 [11:06] <frogaincia> lol
#1841 [11:06] <Chris> !isdown https://login.minecraft.net
#1842 [11:06] <mib_ynjf4z> back up
#1843 [11:06] <Gribonn53> says can't reach server
#1844 [11:07] <kalgalath> omfg.
#1845 [11:07] <frogaincia> Twitter Have an account? Sign in Username or email Password Remember me Sign in Forgot password? Already using Twitter via SMS? Markus Persson @notch Stockholm, Sweden I work at Mojang. Working on a game called Minecraft. I love indie games! http://www.mojang.com/notch/ Text follow notch to your carrier's shortcode Follow Tweets Favorites Followi
#1846 [11:07] <Negoveio> that's because the SERVER IS GODDAMN DOWN
#1847 [11:07] <frogaincia> there u go
#1848 [11:07] <PENGUINS> !isdown https://login.minecraft.net
#1849 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> kalgalath - Perhaps try an uninstall/reinstall of java?
#1850 [11:07] <kalgalath> this is like watching people where i live drive after it starts raining
#1851 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> Please stop with the !isdown spam
#1852 [11:07] <Chris> GreyVulpine, I think I broke your bot
#1853 [11:07] <kalgalath> they lose thier goddamned minds
#1854 [11:07] <GreyVulpine> No, you're just hitting the flood limiter
#1855 [11:07] <Chris> ah
#1856 [11:07] <Chris> that was the first use in ages
#1857 [11:07] <PENGUINS> o.O
#1858 [11:07] <emanfman> lol
#1859 [11:08] <Negoveio> I MANAGED TO LOG IN
#1860 [11:08] <RobinJ24> The intelligence level in this room is too low right now
#1861 [11:08] <Negoveio> BEEEATCH
#1862 [11:08] <emanfman> :isdown login.minecraft.net
#1863 [11:08] <PENGUINS> O: I
#1864 [11:08] <Negoveio> LOG IN
#1865 [11:08] <PENGUINS> Can't login
#1866 [11:08] <Gribonn53> bad login
#1867 [11:08] <emanfman> ??> isdown login.minecraft.net
#1868 [11:08] <frogaincia> MINECRAFT 2????? - notch posts this : I dreamt I got attacked by a fan, woke up, then dreamt I was working on Minecraft 2. I need a new hobby!
#1869 [11:08] <emanfman> oy!
#1870 [11:08] <emanfman> never mind.
#1871 [11:08] <Chris> ?? isdown login.minecraft.net
#1872 [11:08] <Chris> you're doing it wrong
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#1874 [11:08] <Chris> xD
#1875 [11:09] <Chris> I guess voxel doesn't have isdown
#1876 [11:09] <emanfman> thats right
#1877 [11:09] <Chris> I thought voxel only ha static commands
#1878 [11:09] <PENGUINS> o hay... it is up
#1879 [11:09] <emanfman> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1880 [11:09] <GreyBot> emanfman: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1881 [11:09] <PENGUINS> I am logged in :3
#1882 [11:09] <Chris> !isdown https://login.minecraft.net
#1883 [11:09] <Gribonn53> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#1884 [11:09] <PENGUINS> like I just now logged in a second ago.
#1885 [11:09] <GreyBot> Gribonn53: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1886 [11:09] <Chris> I think we hit flooding again
#1887 [11:09] <Chris> !isdown https://login.minecraft.net
#1888 [11:09] <Gribonn53> uhm, what does it do?
#1889 [11:10] <emanfman> chris, forget it
#1890 [11:10] <emanfman> you flooded the bot
#1891 [11:10] <westjgames> umm, i just logged into my server, is your bot feeling well?
#1892 [11:10] <Gribonn53> greybot, i tought its some command to see if its down
#1893 [11:10] <PENGUINS> It takes a while to login, "Connecting server" and 3 failed out out of four.
#1894 [11:10] <frogaincia> why do i get a black screen when at http://www.minecraft.net/play
#1895 [11:10] <Chris> I think login.minecraft.net doesnt have a http server attached...
#1896 [11:10] <PENGUINS> But the fourth got in
#1897 [11:10] <PENGUINS> :3
#1898 [11:10] <Chris> must just be https
#1899 [11:11] <westjgames> lotsa lag, though...
#1900 [11:11] <frogaincia> MY CAT JUST BARKED :O
#1901 [11:11] <PENGUINS> AWSOME
#1902 [11:11] <Chris> bahahhaha
#1903 [11:11] <emanfman> please read the /topic
#1904 [11:12] <frogaincia> my cats evolving to scare off dogs!!!! FREAKING EPICCAT!
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#1906 [11:12] <emanfman> wtf... I just disconnected...
#1907 [11:12] <emanfman> nice bot BTW
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#1911 [11:14] <mr_evil> why is the minecraft.net down?
#1912 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> because it is
#1913 [11:14] <The_Prog> Hello is everybody here
#1914 [11:14] <PENGUINS> I'm in my server :o
#1915 [11:15] <PENGUINS> And now I must hop to work TT_TT
#1916 [11:15] <The_Prog> Can me help everybody please
#1917 [11:15] <Chris> Isn't mc.net back up?
#1918 [11:15] <Chris> whats up The_Prog
#1919 [11:15] <mr_evil> sooo who is leding this?
#1920 [11:16] <The_Prog> When I Start the Launcher the Message " Logging In..." is very long
#1921 [11:16] <The_Prog> sorry my englisch is not so god
#1922 [11:16] <PENGUINS> It was for me also.
#1923 [11:16] <The_Prog> yes
#1924 [11:16] <mr_evil> same here
#1925 [11:16] <PENGUINS> I just kept trying
#1926 [11:16] <PENGUINS> But I got in
#1927 [11:17] <mr_evil> i just found somting
#1928 [11:17] <The_Prog> It is god when it works just for you but I NEED IT TOO
#1929 [11:17] <mr_evil> Please note that minecraft.net is down. Nobody here can help bring it up faster, so please be patient.
#1930 [11:17] <I_LOVE_PENGUINS> Yay~
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#1932 [11:18] <I_LOVE_PENGUINS> I love you all
#1933 [11:18] <I_LOVE_PENGUINS> <3
#1934 [11:18] <I_LOVE_PENGUINS> >> Fine mr Evil.. Be that way.. TT_TT
#1935 [11:19] <I_LOVE_PENGUINS> Laterz
#1936 [11:19] <g> ~stfu McPlusPlus
#1937 [11:19] <RobinJ24> The penguins guy annoys the hell out of me
#1938 [11:19] <Gribonn53> mr evil lies
#1939 [11:19] <Chris> ^
#1940 [11:19] <Chris> the ^ was at robin
#1941 [11:19] <Gribonn53> minecraft.net isnt down
#1942 [11:20] <Gribonn53> minecraft login servers are
#1943 [11:20] <Chris> but grib can have one too
#1944 [11:20] <Gribonn53> :)
#1945 [11:20] <Chris> they're back down?
#1946 [11:20] <Gribonn53> dno
#1947 [11:20] <Chris> I know they came back up
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#1949 [11:20] <Gribonn53> oh
#1950 [11:20] <Gribonn53> lmao
#1951 [11:20] <Chris> haha
#1952 [11:20] <Gribonn53> didn't know
#1953 [11:21] <RobinJ24> The servers are up?
#1954 [11:21] <Chris> people have reported being able to log back in
#1955 [11:21] <RobinJ24> Hooray
#1956 [11:21] <RobinJ24> I will celebrate this by drinking something
#1957 [11:21] <RobinJ24> because im thirsty
#1958 [11:21] <Chris> haha
#1959 [11:22] <Chris> now that the servers are back up the channel is much more quiet
#1960 [11:23] <RobinJ24> lol
#1961 [11:23] <Chris> I'm not saying thats a bad thing...
#1962 [11:23] <RobinJ24> When I open Minecraft I will see if the slaves in my faction are working for me
#1963 [11:23] <Chris> haha
#1964 [11:24] <RobinJ24> Me and my friend made a faction and lots of people joined
#1965 [11:24] <RobinJ24> and they built a huge castle like thing for us
#1966 [11:24] <RobinJ24> with a mine and a portal to the nether
#1967 [11:24] <Gribonn53> yeap
#1968 [11:24] <Gribonn53> so anyways
#1969 [11:24] <Gribonn53> why did i come to this irc
#1970 [11:24] <Gribonn53> i'm having a problem with one server
#1971 [11:24] <Gribonn53> it says Can't reach server all the time i don't use vpn to log in
#1972 [11:24] <Chris> Gribonn, what's the IP of the server
#1973 [11:25] <RobinJ24> !check huckcraft.dyndns.org
#1974 [11:26] <Gribonn53> help pl0x
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#1976 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> <Chris> Gribonn, what's the IP of the server
#1977 [11:26] <Chris> Gribonn, what's the IP of the server
#1978 [11:26] <Chris> thank you grey, I just Up-Entered xD
#1979 [11:29] <Chris> well... that was rude xD
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#1981 [11:30] <yoshi> is the server online now?
#1982 [11:30] <yoshi> ^^
#1983 [11:31] <Chris> yes
#1984 [11:31] <yoshi> n1
#1985 [11:31] <Chris> you may have some problems connecting but keep trying...
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#1987 [11:31] <kalgalath> hey grey.. could it be because i have two monitors?
#1988 [11:32] <Chris> what's your problem kal?
#1989 [11:32] <Chris> it shouldn't be
#1990 [11:32] <yoshi> hmm it dont go -.-
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#1992 [11:32] <yoshi> btw where i can download the full game?
#1993 [11:32] <Chris> buy it and download it from minecraft.net
#1994 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> kalgalath - Are you running the game on the secondary monitor?
#1995 [11:33] <yoshi> i have buy it but i can only download the launcher? 0o
#1996 [11:33] <Chris> yoshi, run the launcher
#1997 [11:33] <Chris> that is the full game
#1998 [11:34] <yoshi> the coms cant connect to minecraft.net
#1999 [11:34] <Chris> what are coms
#2000 [11:34] <yoshi> du you speak ger? xD
#2001 [11:34] <yoshi> my eng is very bad ^^
#2002 [11:34] <Chris> no, sorry, you'll need to find someone ese
#2003 [11:34] <westjgames> i wish someone could see my ponies *sigh*
#2004 [11:34] <yoshi> okay ^^
#2005 [11:35] <yoshi> np :)
#2006 [11:35] <Calinou> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#2007 [11:35] <GreyBot> Calinou: It's just you. http://login.minecraft.net is up.
#2008 [11:35] <westjgames> ha win
#2009 [11:35] <kalgalath> nope, running game on primary monitor.. but that monitor is run off secondary card
#2010 [11:35] <Chris> yoshi, try in #minecraft.de
#2011 [11:36] <yoshi> ich have started the launcher then i give my acc datas in the fields then coms cant connect to minecraft .net -.-
#2012 [11:36] <kalgalath> secondary monitor is run off onboard video
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#2014 [11:39] <kalgalath> i think its something to do with the update.... if i delete the bin it attempts to logon and downloads the update
#2015 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> kalgalath - Without knowing more, I don't know what to tell you. The error itself is pointing to nvidia drivers, though the format itself, suggests windows throwing that error, not java
#2016 [11:40] <kalgalath> omfg
#2017 [11:40] <kalgalath> =headdesk
#2018 [11:41] <kalgalath> i JUST paid fo this game today.....
#2019 [11:41] <kalgalath> and apparently i cant gorram play it
#2020 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> have you done a reinstall of java yet?
#2021 [11:41] <kalgalath> reinstalled nvidia drivers, full clean install, deleted and reinstalled java, rebooted a few times
#2022 [11:42] <kalgalath> during the process
#2023 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell me exactly how it crashes?
#2024 [11:43] <kalgalath> blah. i should have been a programmer instead of hardware...
#2025 [11:43] <kalgalath> sae way either way
#2026 [11:43] <kalgalath> if i launch client, or in browser
#2027 [11:43] <kalgalath> if .bin file is empty, it downloads update.
#2028 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> When does it crash? How does it crash?
#2029 [11:44] <kalgalath> progress bar seems to jump last 1/5th
#2030 [11:44] <kalgalath> and then it generates java error message
#2031 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> When you play through the browser, does the applet load? Does the browser crash?
#2032 [11:44] <kalgalath> applet loads and I can see the game sandbox even after crash. browser remains stable
#2033 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> What version of java are you on?
#2034 [11:45] <kalgalath> java 6 release 27
#2035 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> 5? 6? 7? 32 or 64 bit?
#2036 [11:45] <kalgalath> 32 bit
#2037 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> 32 bit OS?
#2038 [11:45] <kalgalath> java 7 hasnt been released yet :P
#2039 [11:46] <Chris> hasn't it kal?
#2040 [11:46] <kalgalath> yeah. i use winxppro32bit
#2041 [11:46] <Chris> I thought it had
#2042 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> It has, and has been known to cause problems with minecraft
#2043 [11:46] <kalgalath> the official java site says its still coming
#2044 [11:46] <Chris> you on java.com or the oracle java site
#2045 [11:46] <GreyVulpine> You say that when you tried to update your video drivers, that it didn't take.. what was the deal with that?
#2046 [11:46] <kalgalath> http://java.com/en/
#2047 [11:47] <Chris> ah, you can get it from the java oracle site
#2048 [11:47] <kalgalath> no idea, at first.. no error message, just a fullstop and install fail.
#2049 [11:47] <Chris> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html its the one on the left
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#2051 [11:47] <kalgalath> when i did a clean install, i got an error message showing that apparently i had data from an incompatible driver
#2052 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> kalgalath - Hmm...
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#2054 [11:48] <kalgalath> http://java.com/en/download/faq/java7.xml
#2055 [11:48] <anerag> When i try to connect to any server it says "no connection" (minecraft worked just fine couple days ago) help?
#2056 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you completely uninstall your nvidia drivers again. This time, using the windows control panel. Afterwards, try nuking any trace of video drivers from your system using a program like driver sweeper (http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html). Then do a clean install with the latest drivers
#2057 [11:48] <xarcus> my game crashed every time i try to run it
#2058 [11:48] <Chris> just use the developer build xD
#2059 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> xarcus - Do you get any error messages?
#2060 [11:49] <xarcus> yes
#2061 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> anerag - What is the server IP?
#2062 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> xarcus - Please post it at www.pastebinn.com and give us the URL
#2063 [11:49] <anerag> minecraft.pelikulma.com pretty sure it's online
#2064 [11:49] <kalgalath> im no programmer.... I can put a working tower together from spare parts, build networks, and make all the hardware talk and play nice... but coding is not my forte
#2065 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> !check minecraft.pelikulma.com
#2066 [11:49] <kalgalath> I'll try that later Grey
#2067 [11:49] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.pelikulma.com does not appear to be upp
#2068 [11:49] <anerag> oh sorry it must be .net
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#2070 [11:50] <kalgalath> i have to get going.. im late for my DnD game
#2071 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> kalgalath - I'm still thinking it's your nvidia drivers
#2072 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> kalgalath - Ah, 3.5, path, or 4?
#2073 [11:50] <kalgalath> my lev 7 barbarian needs healz, and then smashing resumes ^.^
#2074 [11:50] <kalgalath> 35., but completely homebrewed world
#2075 [11:50] <GreyVulpine> Good man
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#2077 [11:50] <kalgalath> 4 is too wonky for me
#2078 [11:50] <xarcus> my error message is a notepad file type thing that comes up on my desktop
#2079 [11:50] * GreyVulpine nods
#2079 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> xarcus - Please post it at www.pastebinn.com and give us the URL
#2080 [11:51] <anerag> so any help for me?
#2081 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> er, pastebin.com
#2082 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> anerag - The server is down, there is nothing you can do
#2083 [11:51] <kalgalath> healing surges/day? thats what the cleric/pally/potions are for
#2084 [11:51] <xarcus> kk
#2085 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> kalgalath - Best of luck to you.
#2086 [11:51] <anerag> did you check minecraft.pelikulma.net?
#2087 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Give those d20s a good talkin' to
#2088 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> anerag - YEs
#2089 [11:51] <kalgalath> Ill be back later on
#2090 [11:51] <anerag> ok
#2091 [11:51] <anerag> well
#2092 [11:51] <anerag> thanks anyway
#2093 [11:51] <kalgalath> lol
#2094 [11:51] <sprog> why i cant play offline?
#2095 [11:51] <kalgalath> later.. GL
#2096 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> sprog- Did you log in successfully at least once before?
#2097 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> You need to log in successfully at least once, for the launcher to download files for minecraft
#2098 [11:53] <xarcus> there i pasted it
#2099 [11:53] <sprog> there coms cant connect to minecraft.net
#2100 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> xarcus - What is the URL to it?
#2101 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Have you been able to connect before?
#2102 [11:53] <xarcus> the hwa?
#2103 [11:53] <xarcus> oh
#2104 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> xarcus - The address to the website
#2105 [11:53] <xarcus> k sec
#2106 [11:54] <sprog> i have buy this game for 30 mins but i cant play it
#2107 [11:54] <xarcus> http://pastebin.com/A32hM61W
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#2109 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> xarcus - Please give us a dxdiag
#2110 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> ??> xarcus win/dxdiag
#2111 [11:54] <VoxelHead> xarcus: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2112 [11:54] <VoxelHead> xarcus: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2114 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Are you able to go to https://login.minecraft.net ? Should say "Bad login" if you can
#2115 [11:55] <sprog> yes there com bad login
#2116 [11:55] <anerag> hi again, tried some other servers like battlecraft.net and server.lengedarycraft.net
#2117 [11:55] <anerag> no connection
#2118 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Your system's time and date correct? What operating system are you on?
#2119 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> anerag - Try s.nerd.nu
#2120 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> !check s.nerd.nu
#2121 [11:55] <sprog> windows 7
#2122 [11:55] <anerag> no connection
#2123 [11:56] <sprog> yes all correct
#2124 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> anerag - Then do you have any sort of firewall or security software that's blocking java or minecraft?
#2125 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Does your windows username happen to contain a ! mark in it?
#2126 [11:56] <anerag> double checked everything, nothing wrong
#2127 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> anerag - What firewall do you run?
#2128 [11:56] <anerag> zonealarm
#2129 [11:56] <GreyVulpine> Aaah....
#2130 [11:56] <sprog> no
#2131 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Zonealarm's been known to cause problems, even when disabled
#2132 [11:57] <anerag> so what's the fix?
#2133 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Best solution, uninstall zonealarm completely.
#2134 [11:57] <anerag> and use something else?
#2135 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2136 [11:57] <sprog> and avast is thats probaly?
#2137 [11:57] <anerag> works for me
#2138 [11:57] <anerag> thanks
#2139 [11:58] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Are you absolutely sure your windows username doesn't have an exclaimation mark in it?
#2140 [11:58] <sprog> thats not good?
#2141 [11:58] <xarcus> never mind greyvulpiune its because my school network is blocking minecraft and this is my first time running
#2142 [11:58] <Chris> ??< fubar/zonealarm
#2143 [11:58] <xarcus> thanks though'
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#2145 [11:59] <Chris> I didn't even know zonealarm still existed, I would have thought that it would have died out by now, gotten too old
#2146 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> It's still around, it's still causing problems for many
#2147 [12:00] <GreyVulpine> At least.. what was the contender for zonealarm back in the day.. blackice?
#2148 [12:01] <sprog> i have change my windos name but the problem still exists
#2149 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Did it contain a ! in it?
#2150 [12:01] <GreyVulpine> Even if you change your username, the foldername to your user profile still has a (!) in it, which is what is causing the problem
#2151 [12:01] <sprog> no the ! has gon
#2152 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> But it did.
#2153 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> I just want to be perfectly clear here, it did have a ! in it.
#2154 [12:02] <GreyVulpine> Hello?
#2155 [12:03] <sprog> in your windows name? ^^
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#2157 [12:03] <GreyVulpine> Yes. in the windows name. Did it have an exclaimation mark in it?
#2158 [12:03] <sprog> no
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#2160 [12:04] <GreyVulpine> You said you changed it, why?
#2161 [12:04] <sprog> do I have to insert it again?
#2162 [12:05] <defdude> my multiplayer wouldn't work unless I was in browser and now my inbrowser won't work, what do I do?:s
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#2164 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Could you tell me why you changed your windows username? Did it contain a ! in it before you changed it?
#2165 [12:05] <GreyVulpine> defdude - Why won't it work?
#2166 [12:06] <sprog> yes it has
#2167 [12:06] <sprog> a ! in the old name
#2168 [12:06] <defdude> my online just wont connect and my in browser goes white
#2169 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> defdude - What does your client say, when it doesn't connect?
#2170 [12:06] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Then you have two choices, either you can make a new windows user account, or you can use our workaround.
#2171 [12:06] <defdude> bad login
#2172 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> defdude - Has it ever worked before?
#2173 [12:07] <defdude> no
#2174 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Our workaround can be found here:
#2175 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> ??> sprog !
#2176 [12:07] <VoxelHead> sprog: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#2177 [12:07] <VoxelHead> sprog: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
#2178 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> defdude - Bad login means either one of two things. The most common is that the username/password is wrong
#2179 [12:07] <GreyVulpine> defdude - The other is that you had a launcher that was pre-1.8, and you need to redownload the latest launcher
#2180 [12:08] <defdude> but it worked on the same on inbrowser and i downloade about 4 days ago, I'm quite new
#2181 [12:08] <GreyVulpine> defdude - If you're getting "Bad login", then you're entering your username/password wrong in the launcher
#2182 [12:08] <sprog> this link dont exist by me
#2183 [12:08] <sprog> 0o
#2184 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Er, sorry, one moment
#2185 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> :!
#2186 [12:09] <WugBot> !: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#2187 [12:09] <WugBot> !: Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work (though it usually does) and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
#2188 [12:09] <sprog> okay
#2189 [12:09] <defdude> ok ill give it another go
#2190 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Bah, wrong one as well
#2191 [12:09] * GreyVulpine stabs wug
#2191 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Wug! What's the new link?
#2192 [12:11] <defdude> still wont work it also says it has full bars connection
#2193 [12:11] <defdude> now it cant reach any :(
#2194 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Use http://wugserv.student.rit.edu/minecraft/fix/Install.exe
#2195 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> defdude - Huh?
#2196 [12:13] <defdude> it said it can't rech it
#2197 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> What is the error message?
#2198 [12:14] <sprog> then comes user not premium
#2199 [12:14] <defdude> now it says end of stream when i try
#2200 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Did you pay for minecraft?
#2201 [12:14] <sprog> yes i have 15 E
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#2203 [12:14] <sprog> € pays
#2204 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Make sure the bank you used, has a record of payment going to Mojang AB.
#2205 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> That account you're trying to log into, is not marked as being paid
#2206 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> defdude - Try.. what exactly again?
#2207 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> defdude - Logging into a server?
#2208 [12:16] <defdude> join a server
#2209 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> Try a different server, try s.nerd.nu
#2210 [12:17] <sprog> hmm that is not good -.-
#2211 [12:18] <defdude> nope still not working
#2212 [12:18] <sprog> what can i do?
#2213 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> sprog - Make sure the bank you used, has a record of payment going to Mojang AB. Call them
#2214 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> defdude - Do you have any sort of firewall or security software installed on your computer?
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#2216 [12:19] <sprog> i cant call them now
#2217 [12:19] <defdude> probably
#2218 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> defdude - Most likely, one of them is filtering connections with minecraft
#2219 [12:19] <defdude> ye i do have one
#2220 [12:20] <GreyVulpine> sprog - When did you say you purchased minecraft? How long ago?
#2221 [12:20] <sprog> 1 hour
#2222 [12:21] <GreyVulpine> sprog - I'd wait a couple more hours and try again. Sometimes it takes a few hours
#2223 [12:21] <sprog> okay thanks
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#2226 [12:23] <defdude> is there a good solution or am i screwed:s
#2227 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> Try disabling your security software to test?
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#2229 [12:24] <defdude> ok ill try
#2230 [12:24] <Inconvex> hey
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#2232 [12:25] <defdude> im not administrator on my computer
#2233 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> Then there's nothing else I can suggest for you
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#2235 [12:27] <Grim_Reaper> Secret spy mission to get admin access ._.
#2236 [12:27] <defdude> ok ill try get the login and disable my security soon if not ill just play single, thanks anyway
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#2238 [12:28] <RobinJ24> Uhh anyone going to remove the /notice that mcplusplus sends?
#2239 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> Doubt it
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#2241 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> ~stfu McPlusPlus
#2242 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> ~minecraft up
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#2245 [12:36] <anerag> hi, it's me again.... tried to remove zonealarm and now using windows firewall, still can't connect to any server (no connection)
#2246 [12:37] <Chris> are you using a standard version of minecraft (no mods, no hacks etc.)
#2247 [12:37] <anerag> yeah
#2248 [12:37] <anerag> fresh 1.8.1
#2249 [12:37] <Chris> are you able to ping them via command prompt (tell me if you don't know what this means)
#2250 [12:38] <anerag> i'll try
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#2252 [12:39] <anerag> tried ping 3 servers and all with 0% loss rate
#2253 [12:39] <Chris62> Hi...I'm new here ..this is my son's account..he's 8 yrs old...I'm trying to fix his game from crashing due to memory loss....I've tried allocation of more memory...that didn't seem to work...I've got 4 GBs of ram on here and...amd processor (2 cpus) core 550 3.1GHz...32 bit windows 7...and a Geforce GTS 250 video card...anyway I can't seem to over come the lack of memory crash....anyone have any Ideas?...I've heard there wasn't much
#2254 [12:39] <Chris62> could do...unless I could give the java program 12 GBs of memory...which I dont have...Because its a memory leak on minecrafts end and they have to fix it....anyone have anything on this?....thank you..
#2255 [12:39] <ScoMo> Hey, I need some help. When I open the game and log in, it just closes. Help?
#2256 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> Chris - Try this: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2 but use -Xms512M -Xmx800M
#2257 [12:40] <Chris> ??
#2258 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> er, Chris62
#2259 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> ScoMo - Do you get any error reports?
#2260 [12:40] <ScoMo> no. it just closes.
#2261 [12:40] <Chris62> yha...Ive tried that...the allocation of more memory
#2262 [12:40] <anerag> so chris i can ping the servers, it appears that i can't connect them for some reason
#2263 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> ScoMo - Any files named hs_err_pid where the launcher is?
#2264 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Chris62 - I mean, the allocation of less memory
#2265 [12:41] <ScoMo> let me see
#2266 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> The normal launcher is 512/1024. I'm asking you to do 512/800
#2267 [12:41] <Chris> anerag, did microsoft firewall come up with a window on its first launch
#2268 [12:41] <ScoMo> there are several, Grey
#2269 [12:42] <anerag> did and i allowed minecraft
#2270 [12:42] <Chris62> GreyVulpine...ic...thanks...I'll try it
#2271 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> ScoMo - Please pastebin.com the latest one and give us the URL to it
#2272 [12:42] <ScoMo> okay
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#2274 [12:43] <ScoMo> http://mibpaste.com/WJvQE7
#2275 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> ScoMo - Looks like your ATI drivers. Do you know how to update your video card drivers? Also, your java version is out of date.
#2276 [12:44] <anerag> so chris any help?
#2277 [12:44] <ScoMo> well, I've tried several times, but it isn't working that well. one time my comp BSoD'd :o
#2278 [12:44] <Chris> sorry, no..
#2279 [12:44] <anerag> :7
#2280 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> ScoMo - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#2281 [12:44] <GreyVulpine> ??> ScoMo win/dxdiag
#2282 [12:44] <VoxelHead> ScoMo: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2283 [12:44] <VoxelHead> ScoMo: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2284 [12:45] <anerag> guess i have to wait until 1.9 if it would work then
#2285 [12:45] <anerag> thanks anyway
#2286 [12:45] <ScoMo> uh, okay. which box do you refer to?
#2287 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> ScoMo - The "Save all information" button will make a text file with all the information
#2288 [12:46] <ScoMo> what box do I have to type 'dxdiag' into?
#2289 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> The search bar, in your start menu
#2290 [12:47] <ScoMo> ah
#2291 [12:49] <ScoMo> http://mibpaste.com/94igAk
#2292 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you're running a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 video card, with drivers dated 2009, on Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. The drivers you want to download and install are at: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#2293 [12:51] <ScoMo> well?
#2294 [12:51] <ScoMo> ah
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#2296 [12:52] <ScoMo> do I have to download this Catalyst Mobility thing?
#2297 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> I would recommend it.
#2298 [12:53] <ScoMo> if you say so....
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#2301 [12:58] <wheels5894> Running 1.8.1 under Windows 7. Would like to try 1.9 but don't know how to do the manual install. Are there some instructions for this?
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#2303 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> Simply. Go to your run command or search bar, type in: %appdata%
#2304 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> find the .minecraft folder. The file you want to replace is the minecraft.jar in the /bin/ folder
#2305 [12:59] <wheels5894> thanks
#2306 [12:59] <GreyVulpine> make sure to do a backup of the old one
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#2308 [13:04] <mib_602a49> Am i at the right places to ask help about a crash?
#2309 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#2310 [13:04] <mib_602a49> kk
#2311 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> If you get an error report, please post it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
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#2315 [13:06] <osvifr_> ohai wug :)
#2316 [13:07] <Wug> ASKJdfksahefjrgksert
#2317 [13:07] <osvifr_> o.O
#2318 [13:07] <Wug> hello
#2319 [13:07] <osvifr_> lol
#2320 [13:07] <osvifr_> just having a look here..
#2321 [13:07] <osvifr_> and checking if someone needs help with minecraft...
#2322 [13:08] <osvifr_> ist the case..
#2323 [13:08] <Wug> notch is a psychopath
#2324 [13:08] <osvifr_> i'll get off then again..
#2325 [13:08] <mib_602a49> http://pastebin.com/Vg0m2PBE
#2326 [13:08] <osvifr_> LOL
#2327 [13:08] <Wug> my proof is creepers
#2328 [13:09] <Wug> I mean wtf man
#2329 [13:09] * Wug just got blown up
#2329 [13:09] <osvifr_> you'r kida right
#2330 [13:09] <osvifr_> ^^
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#2332 [13:09] <osvifr_> see ya guys.. i have a rehersal
#2333 [13:10] <mib_602a49> gtg
#2334 [13:11] <RobinJ24> wtf
#2335 [13:11] <RobinJ24> I just woke up
#2336 [13:11] <RobinJ24> apparently I fell asleep
#2337 [13:13] <Chris> hha as you do
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#2339 [13:14] <nog> hey
#2340 [13:14] <Wug> RobinJ24: lol
#2341 [13:14] <nog> lol
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#2347 [13:37] <mib_74zved> hi
#2348 [13:37] <Ryladine> Hello.
#2349 [13:37] <Chris> Hi
#2350 [13:37] <mib_74zved> cant buy minecraft
#2351 [13:37] <Chris> why
#2352 [13:37] <Ryladine> Not much we can do here about that.
#2353 [13:38] <mib_74zved> is there way to report of it
#2354 [13:38] <Chris> www.minecraft.net/support
#2355 [13:38] <mib_74zved> ok
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#2357 [13:39] <Faint> Would this: "internal byte GetOpPacketCode() { if (OP) { return 64; } else { return 0; } }" work for the Minecraft Classic Protocol?
#2358 [13:39] <Faint> Because it says "The user type indicates whether a player is an op (0x64) or not (0x00)"
#2359 [13:39] <Wug> Faint: this isnt a modding help channel
#2360 [13:40] <Faint> Where is one?
#2361 [13:40] <Wug> is this classic you're dealing with?
#2362 [13:40] <Faint> Yes
#2363 [13:40] <Wug> is this the default server or a different one
#2364 [13:40] <Faint> Custom server
#2365 [13:40] <Faint> It's a minecraft protocol question so I thought I would ask here
#2366 [13:40] <Wug> ask in whatever help and support area they provide
#2367 [13:40] <Wug> I know very little about the classic protocol
#2368 [13:40] <Wug> its been a long time
#2369 [13:40] <Faint> Ok
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#2376 [14:06] <RubenKamphuis> Hey I have a question...
#2377 [14:06] <Wug> fire away
#2378 [14:06] <RubenKamphuis> E few hours ago, i was able to play minecraft as i should
#2379 [14:06] <RubenKamphuis> i could play ^^
#2380 [14:06] <RubenKamphuis> now i started it, loggid in, it loaded
#2381 [14:06] <RubenKamphuis> got a black screen
#2382 [14:06] <RubenKamphuis> error report
#2383 [14:06] <RubenKamphuis> i tried deleting mods, bin folder, .minecraft folder
#2384 [14:07] <RubenKamphuis> nothing works
#2385 [14:07] <RubenKamphuis> new launcher downloaded
#2386 [14:07] <RubenKamphuis> nothing
#2387 [14:07] <RubenKamphuis> suggestions?
#2388 [14:07] <RubenKamphuis> ...
#2389 [14:09] <Wug> um
#2390 [14:09] <RubenKamphuis> wow
#2391 [14:09] <RubenKamphuis> quite helpfull: an um ^^
#2392 [14:09] <Wug> you did nothing between when it worked and when it didnt?
#2393 [14:09] <Wug> nothing at all?
#2394 [14:09] <RubenKamphuis> nope
#2395 [14:09] <RubenKamphuis> nothing at all
#2396 [14:09] <Wug> you turned the computer off and didnt so much as touch it?
#2397 [14:10] <RubenKamphuis> sort of lol
#2398 [14:10] <RubenKamphuis> hybernate
#2399 [14:10] <Wug> every time someone says this, we always find something they did and theyre like "oh, except for that, I did do that"
#2400 [14:10] <RubenKamphuis> ok lemme check my memory to be sure
#2401 [14:10] <Wug> and its always like deleted every java file they could find or uninstalled their video drivers or something
#2402 [14:11] <RubenKamphuis> dont even know how i should do that lol
#2403 [14:11] <RubenKamphuis> i youtubed a bit here and there
#2404 [14:11] <Wug> you shouldnt
#2405 [14:11] <RubenKamphuis> >.<
#2406 [14:11] <RubenKamphuis> kidding right?
#2407 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> No
#2408 [14:11] <Wug> you should leave java alone, and you should only mess with the video drivers if they're out of date or broken somehow
#2409 [14:11] <RubenKamphuis> always do that lol
#2410 [14:11] <Wug> deleting parts of java makes it break in fantastic and hard to fix ways
#2411 [14:11] <RubenKamphuis> dont mess with coding, deleting files or whatsoever
#2412 [14:11] <Wug> :tv > RubenKamphuis
#2413 [14:11] <WugBot> RubenKamphuis: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2414 [14:11] <WugBot> RubenKamphuis: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /pm user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#2415 [14:12] <RubenKamphuis> one sec
#2416 [14:12] <RubenKamphuis> deleted it a while ago
#2417 [14:15] <RubenKamphuis> sent a pm to you with contact info
#2418 [14:15] <RubenKamphuis> feel free to respond lolz
#2419 [14:16] <RubenKamphuis> woops sent it to your bot
#2420 [14:16] <RubenKamphuis> im new in irc stuff so dont mind the noobish actions
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#2424 [14:24] <Wug> why don't computers shout at you in giant flashing red letters whether they are 32 bit or 64
#2425 [14:24] <petern> cos it's irrelevant?
#2426 [14:24] <Chris> Wug, you'd reckon people'd notice this stuff when they buy them
#2427 [14:25] <Wug> Chris: you'd think the same thing about how much ram they have and their screen resolution
#2428 [14:25] <Wug> the latter specifically, considering they spend hours a day staring at it
#2429 [14:25] <Chris> hmm... not so much the resolution, maybe diagonal inches...
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#2431 [14:25] <Wug> and yet like 5% of computer owners can tell you either of those things
#2432 [14:26] <Wug> I love how we occasionally see people on like $2500 gaming computers who have no idea what hardware they have
#2433 [14:26] <Chris> Its worse if they're custom build xD
#2434 [14:26] <Wug> its like they bought it because it was the most expensive one in the list
#2435 [14:27] <Chris> they might've gone, this one's thingys are all higher, that one.
#2436 [14:27] <Chris> thats what I do when I window shop for computers online
#2437 [14:27] <Wug> You'd think if you were buying anything for $2500 you'd at least attempt to learn enough to make an informed decision
#2438 [14:28] <Chris> true
#2439 [14:28] <Chris> my dad got a kickass alienware the otherday, custom built
#2440 [14:28] <Wug> I built my desktop for like $1400
#2441 [14:28] <Wug> getting 6GB more ram in a month or two, totaling 12GB
#2442 [14:29] <Chris> I think my dad has 16g
#2443 [14:29] <Wug> ram's pretty cheap ow
#2444 [14:29] <Chris> true, motherboards that can fit more ram usually arent though
#2445 [14:29] <RubenKamphuis> im ashamed to realise i dont know either the resolution, videocard specs, or proccesor specs...
#2446 [14:29] <Wug> the pack I got has gone down like $50 since I bought it -.-
#2447 [14:29] <Chris> esp in a laptop
#2448 [14:29] <Chris> I can't give you any of those off memory for the computer i'm on ruben xD
#2449 [14:29] <Chris> I know how to find it though
#2450 [14:30] <Wug> its all in the dxdiag listing
#2451 [14:30] <RubenKamphuis> yeah me too, dont know what it means thjough
#2452 [14:30] <RubenKamphuis> great my screen went black
#2453 [14:30] <RubenKamphuis> dont see what im typing now lol
#2454 [14:30] <Chris> hahaha
#2455 [14:30] <Wug> you have an intel G43 or G45 graphics card
#2456 [14:30] <RubenKamphuis> crappy ey?
#2457 [14:30] <Wug> it comes back, you're installing a graphics driver
#2458 [14:30] <Chris> so you can see what you're typing?
#2459 [14:31] <RubenKamphuis> now i can :)
#2460 [14:31] <Wug> graphical wonkiness is normal and to be expected
#2461 [14:31] <RubenKamphuis> its back like wug said
#2462 [14:31] <RubenKamphuis> got to restart now...
#2463 [14:31] <RubenKamphuis> brb
#2464 [14:31] <Wug> c ya in 10 minutes
#2465 [14:31] <Chris> on my computer, if it overheats its more like an hour
#2466 [14:31] <RubenKamphuis> 10 lol, my pc is not THAT crappy
#2467 [14:31] <Wug> c ya in 10 minutes
#2468 [14:31] <Wug> 2*
#2469 [14:31] <RubenKamphuis> ^^
#2470 [14:31] <Wug> stupid keyboard
#2471 [14:32] <Chris> bahaha blame the keyboard
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#2473 [14:32] <Wug> it was the chair >.>
#2474 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Was something between the chair and keyboard alright..
#2475 [14:34] <Wug> GreyVulpine: idk, his might have legit randomly stopped working
#2476 [14:34] <Wug> it was supposedly working hours ago, he's been up to date, and his graphics drivers were updated in february
#2477 [14:34] * GreyVulpine peefts
#2477 [14:34] * GreyVulpine pffts
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#2478 [14:35] <Wug> it was an opengl error, so the only thing that makes sense as a cause would be graphics driver issues
#2479 [14:35] <Wug> since it was working before and the drivers haven't been touched in months, I therefore logically conclude that ???
#2480 [14:36] <Wug> QED.
#2481 [14:36] * Wug segfaults
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#2486 [14:39] <RubenKamphuis> Back :)
#2487 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> <RubenKamphuis> 10 lol, my pc is not THAT crappy
#2488 [14:39] <RubenKamphuis> ....
#2489 [14:39] <RubenKamphuis> i went for some cake
#2490 [14:39] <egor_by> помогите плис!!кто может?
#2491 [14:39] <RubenKamphuis> >.<
#2492 [14:39] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2492 [14:39] <RubenKamphuis> Good cake ^^
#2493 [14:39] <Wug> does it work now
#2494 [14:39] <RubenKamphuis> and no, its not a lie
#2495 [14:40] <RubenKamphuis> its cake
#2496 [14:40] <Chris> the cake is a lie!
#2497 [14:40] <Chris> aw
#2498 [14:40] <RubenKamphuis> oh right
#2499 [14:40] <RubenKamphuis> beat ya :)
#2500 [14:40] * Wug dematerializes the cake
#2500 [14:40] <RubenKamphuis> eyyy problem solves
#2501 [14:40] <RubenKamphuis> WE ARE NOT gonna dematerialize the cake!
#2502 [14:40] <egor_by> кто мне может памочь?!
#2503 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Мы не можем понять вас.
#2504 [14:41] <GreyVulpine> Никто здесь не говорит на русском.
#2505 [14:41] <egor_by> you British?
#2506 [14:42] <RubenKamphuis> yeah thats sounds british >.<
#2507 [14:42] <GreyVulpine> Sure... british.
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#2509 [14:42] <almostroot> GreyVulpine: Me thinks you hail from the land of Google Translate.,
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#2511 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> almostroot - No, I'm just google-lingual.
#2512 [14:43] * GreyVulpine nods sagely
#2512 [14:43] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> can anyone here help me with speed issues?
#2513 [14:43] <RubenKamphuis> dont use it?
#2514 [14:43] <RubenKamphuis> dont use crack, weed, cocaine, speed
#2515 [14:43] <egor_by> how to enter the client minecraft?
#2516 [14:43] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> very funny xD you know what I'm talking about
#2517 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> egor_by - By buying an account, and downloading the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#2518 [14:44] <egor_by> oh
#2519 [14:44] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> I'll call it FPS issues, or lagging issues, whatever suits you best :P
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#2521 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft] - Can you give us more information about your computer? What OS is it running? What are its specs?
#2522 [14:45] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> yeah
#2523 [14:45] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> it's an AMD Athlon dualcore QL-64
#2524 [14:45] <RubenKamphuis> thanks for everything wug :)
#2525 [14:45] <Wug> np
#2526 [14:45] <egor_by> I sazdal your server and can `t go in there patamu that cannot go to the client ((
#2527 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> RAM? Video card?
#2528 [14:45] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> clock speed 2.1 GHz
#2529 [14:45] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> 3.00 GB of RAM
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#2531 [14:46] <egor_by> you need to go to the client?
#2532 [14:46] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> NVIDIA GeForce 8200M G video card
#2533 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> egor_by - I didn't understand that last sentence.
#2534 [14:47] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> running Windows Vista, service pack 1, 32 bit
#2535 [14:47] <egor_by> I'm just a translator translate
#2536 [14:47] <GreyVulpine> Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft] - That should handle minecraft pretty nicely. What version of java are you running? How much RAM is actually Free?
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#2538 [14:47] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> I have the latest version of Java (version 6 update 27)
#2539 [14:47] <egor_by> тут есть руские?
#2540 [14:47] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> where do you see how much RAM is free?
#2541 [14:47] <UrsusMinor78> evening!
#2542 [14:47] <RubenKamphuis> lol google translate is doing quite a good job
#2543 [14:48] <RubenKamphuis> hey ursus
#2544 [14:48] <RubenKamphuis> ursus minor... little bear?
#2545 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft] - Task manager -> performance tab -> physical RAM
#2546 [14:48] <UrsusMinor78> @ruben yup :D
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#2549 [14:48] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> it says
#2550 [14:48] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> total 2813 - cached 1740 - free 19
#2551 [14:48] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> that can't be good xD
#2552 [14:49] <UrsusMinor78> anybody got time for my minecraft problem? :D
#2553 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not good..
#2554 [14:49] <RubenKamphuis> i do, wont be able to help you though lol
#2555 [14:49] <RubenKamphuis> lol 19 free
#2556 [14:49] <mib_y4uxwr> can u help me on minecraft login
#2557 [14:49] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> (minecraft is not running right now)
#2558 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> You may want to close some running programs.
#2559 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft needs at least half a gig of RAM free
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#2561 [14:49] <RubenKamphuis> jezus thats big
#2562 [14:49] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> I know
#2563 [14:49] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> I always run it with everything else closed
#2564 [14:49] <UrsusMinor78> btw didnt expect so much traffic in the minecraft support channel :D (my first time irc-ing ;) )
#2565 [14:49] <mib_y4uxwr> can some one help
#2566 [14:49] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> let's see, I only have IRC open now
#2567 [14:50] <RubenKamphuis> my first time too
#2568 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Check task manager, look at the processes list and see what else is running
#2569 [14:50] <RubenKamphuis> lol :)
#2570 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> For those that want help, please just start by telling us what your problem is
#2571 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> If one of us can help, we will
#2572 [14:50] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> ehm... a lot.
#2573 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Include as much information as possible... not just "it doesn't work"
#2574 [14:50] <RubenKamphuis> it doesnt wo...
#2575 [14:50] <RubenKamphuis> nvm
#2576 [14:50] <UrsusMinor78> okay :D my wife gets the out of memory page every 10 to 15 mins, vista 4 gig ram minecraft 1.9 pr 4
#2577 [14:50] <mib_y4uxwr> grauvulpne my problem is it want let me kog in to minecraft
#2578 [14:51] <mib_y4uxwr> i mean log in
#2579 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_y4uxwr - What error do you get when you try to log into minecraft?
#2580 [14:51] <UrsusMinor78> tried deleting the .minecraft folder, reinstalling java, all device drivers up to date
#2581 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> UrsusMinor78 - 32 or 64 bit windows?
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#2583 [14:51] <UrsusMinor78> 32 bit vista
#2584 [14:51] <mib_y4uxwr> login faild
#2585 [14:51] <dk221> hello i need help
#2586 [14:51] <dk221> i cant login
#2587 [14:51] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> dropbox is using 40K of memory, but I can't really switch that off as far as I know...
#2588 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft] - You may want to look through there, and see what programs are sucking up the most RAM, close them down
#2589 [14:51] <dk221> " to many failed logins"
#2590 [14:51] <dk221> how do i login?
#2591 [14:52] <RubenKamphuis> lol
#2592 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> dk221 - Nothing we can do about it here. Just be patient, log in again after waiting a few hours
#2593 [14:52] <Chris> grey, the login servers not down
#2594 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> UrsusMinor78 - Could you try launching minecraft with a batch file... instructions forthcoming
#2595 [14:52] <egor_by> here is the Russian people?
#2596 [14:52] <Chris> dk221: the site or in game
#2597 [14:52] <UrsusMinor78> the one where it grants minecraft memory manually?
#2598 [14:52] <dk221> the luncher
#2599 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> UrsusMinor78 - http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2 -- -Xms and -Xmx are the two arguments you'll want to tweak
#2600 [14:53] <UrsusMinor78> btw @GrayVulpine thanks for your time :)
#2601 [14:53] <dk221> the luncher says it chris
#2602 [14:53] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> anyway, I don't think it's a memory issue. I've looked at the debug screen while running Minecraft, and it says there's 495 MB allocated for Minecraft
#2603 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> minecraft usually uses 512/1024, that batch file uses 256M
#2604 [14:53] <Chris> dk221 what does it say
#2605 [14:53] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> of which it is using about 100 at any given time
#2606 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft] - Sure, since most of that is from paging
#2607 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> And we all know how fast paging is
#2608 [14:53] <Chris> Grey oh derp sorry didn't see the error
#2609 [14:53] <dk221> it says to :many failed logins" chris
#2610 [14:53] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> what is paging?
#2611 [14:53] <Chris> dk221 you'll have to go to minecraft.net/support
#2612 [14:54] <mib_y4uxwr> can replypleas
#2613 [14:54] <mib_y4uxwr> can some one reply pleas
#2614 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Paging is what happens when a program doesn't have enough space to store itself on RAM. It uses a part of the hard drive to swap between working files and RAM
#2615 [14:54] <Chris> mib try again later, unless you're getting a wierd error
#2616 [14:54] <egor_by> крис вы русский?
#2617 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_y4uxwr - Has it worked bfore?
#2618 [14:54] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> I see
#2619 [14:54] <UrsusMinor78> just a sec, trying the batch now
#2620 [14:54] <Iridium> do leaves grow through fences or something?
#2621 [14:54] <mib_y4uxwr> yes it has
#2622 [14:54] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> and that makes Minecraft slower?
#2623 [14:55] <dk221> god dammit it says to me to wait!
#2624 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_y4uxwr - Login failed means one of two things, either your username/password is wrong, or you're still using an older launcher for minecraft
#2625 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> mib_y4uxwr - I'd start by downloading a new launcher from minecraft.net/download
#2626 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft] - Yes.
#2627 [14:55] <Chris> or the login server is down, which its not
#2628 [14:55] <mib_y4uxwr> i have
#2629 [14:55] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> yeah, that's sort of logical, I think.
#2630 [14:55] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> anyway
#2631 [14:55] <Wug> Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]: what are you running right now thats using so much ram if it isnt minecraft
#2632 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Chris - If the login server is down, you'd get can't connect to minecraft.net
#2633 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> not Login failed
#2634 [14:56] <Chris> ah, true
#2635 [14:56] <mib_y4uxwr> thanks for your time
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#2637 [14:56] <Wug> mib_y4uxwr: try logging into the website
#2638 [14:56] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> Wug - I have no idea. there's a long list of processes, none of which really use a lot of RAM by themselves but it adds up to a lot
#2639 [14:57] <Chris> hey wug, is it your bot that handles !isdown?
#2640 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> That's greybot.
#2641 [14:57] <Chris> ah
#2642 [14:57] <gamakichi> mib has tried this and logging into the web works perfectly
#2643 [14:57] <Chris> Can you make a command that checks if the login server is down?
#2644 [14:57] <Chris> or make greybot check that by default on !isdown
#2645 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> I implemented !isdown because back before, if the website was down, so was the login server..
#2646 [14:58] <gamakichi> can sum1 reply plz
#2647 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Checking login.minecraft.net, is a bit different..
#2648 [14:59] <UrsusMinor78> @GreyVulpine we got an error message: could not find the main class:net.minecraft.launcherframe. program will exit, BUT we can launche it otherwise
#2649 [14:59] <Chris> yeah, true...
#2650 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> gamakichi - We don't know what to reply to, since you never told us what your problem is
#2651 [14:59] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> anyway, there was a fix someone suggested: adding javaw.exe to the list of programs which NVIDIA should recognise as "games"
#2652 [14:59] <gamakichi> my frend mib_yuxwr has tried allot but it just says login failed
#2653 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft] - Do you have a optimus system?
#2654 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> One that has dual video cards?
#2655 [14:59] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> I tried that, it does absolutely *nothing*
#2656 [14:59] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> no, I don't have an Optimus
#2657 [15:00] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> like stated above, AMD Athlon dualcore
#2658 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> gamakichi - Have him recover his password using http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#2659 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft] - Oh right, then that solution wouldn't have worked
#2660 [15:00] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> oh
#2661 [15:00] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> that was only for Optimus systems?
#2662 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Many newer laptops nowadays have an integrated card, and a dedicated video card.
#2663 [15:00] <gamakichi> basicly mib is restarting his computer to see if that works but im just standing in for him since hes restsrting his computer lol
#2664 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Java usually uses the integrated card, which minecraft draws a lot of power using..
#2665 [15:01] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> yeah, I've read about that
#2666 [15:01] <gamakichi> thanks if the restart no work ill tell him to do that
#2667 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> So with optimus, you need to set up nvidia to use the dedicated graphics card whenever java runs
#2668 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Your issue, I'm pretty sure, is the lack of free RAM.
#2669 [15:01] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> ok
#2670 [15:01] <gamakichi> by the way is there any way to change ur minecraft username
#2671 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> gamakichi - There is not.
#2672 [15:02] <Chris> nope
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#2674 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> You can always buy a new account, with the username that you prefer
#2675 [15:02] <Midnight_Rambler[Minecraft]> hang on, I'll close down mIRC and everything else, and see how much RAM I can free up
#2676 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Let's see.. I missed UrsusMinor78..
#2677 [15:02] <UrsusMinor78> :D
#2678 [15:02] <|Kiikun|> mirc eats like no ram.. as far as i know
#2679 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> UrsusMinor78 - You need to run the batch file using the minecraft.jar from the website
#2680 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> Download it from minecraft.net/download
#2681 [15:03] <gamakichi> but i mean without buying new account
#2682 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> gamakichi - Nope
#2683 [15:03] <UrsusMinor78> @GreyVulpine yup its the original .jar
#2684 [15:03] <guest-0-43850> Is it possible to have animals not despawn?
#2685 [15:03] <UrsusMinor78> @guest: animals dont despawn any longer
#2686 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> guest-0-43850 - Not really. Whenever a chunk unloads, it takes all the mobs with it
#2687 [15:03] <UrsusMinor78> ????
#2688 [15:03] <guest-0-43850> so i can have them in a fence forever?
#2689 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> or wait, no... that was changed wasn't it
#2690 [15:03] <UrsusMinor78> yup
#2691 [15:04] <UrsusMinor78> i have a large chicken farm running :D
#2692 [15:04] <UrsusMinor78> they stay
#2693 [15:04] <guest-0-43850> :D
#2694 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you're right
#2695 [15:04] <UrsusMinor78> for once ;)
#2696 [15:04] <UrsusMinor78> 1.8 i believe brought the change
#2697 [15:04] <guest-0-43850> I'm gona try to have a creeper fram
#2698 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> UrsusMinor78 - Are you using minecraft.jar from the .minecraft/bin/ folder, or the one from the website?
#2699 [15:04] <UrsusMinor78> oooh
#2700 [15:04] <UrsusMinor78> um :D
#2701 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> The latter is what you need to use
#2702 [15:05] <|Kiikun|> IgnoreMeImLazy: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Spawnning
#2703 [15:05] <UrsusMinor78> kk,
#2704 [15:05] <gamakichi> ahh well ill just have to get a new account
#2705 [15:06] <mib_602a49> go to this link my minecraft has crashed!
#2706 [15:07] <mib_602a49> http://pastebin.com/Vg0m2PBE
#2707 [15:07] <|Kiikun|> according to the wiki.. passives NEVER despawn...
#2708 [15:07] <|Kiikun|> but also they RARELY respawn outside spawnign with new chunks
#2709 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> mib_602a49 - Try updating your java, you're running an old release. Then update your video drivers
#2710 [15:07] <mib_602a49> plz help ive just started a server
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#2712 [15:08] <mib_602a49> kk il try
#2713 [15:08] <Midnight_Rambler> all right, I'm back
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#2715 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Any luck?
#2716 [15:08] <UrsusMinor78> @GreyVulpine: i downloaded the .jar from the website, still same error
#2717 [15:08] <|Kiikun|> do or not do, there is no try :P
#2718 [15:09] <Midnight_Rambler> negative. the most free RAM I managed to get was 170-180 MB
#2719 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> UrsusMinor78 - What error are you getting exactly?
#2720 [15:09] <Midnight_Rambler> I closed down a few processes, looked again, and then it was down to 70 MB!
#2721 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> Midnight_Rambler - Yeah, that's not nearly enough to run minecraft smoothly. Many, what could be eating up 3 gigs of RAM
#2722 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> er, man*
#2723 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> browser?
#2724 [15:09] <Midnight_Rambler> I closed down more processes, and it slowly crept up
#2725 [15:09] <Midnight_Rambler> to 79-80
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#2727 [15:09] <UrsusMinor78> @grey vulpine could not find the main class: net.minecraft.launcher.frame. Program will exit
#2728 [15:10] <mib_602a49> its not working
#2729 [15:10] <Midnight_Rambler> for the rest, there are a lot of RAM-eating processes called svchost.exe, I'm scared of closing those xD
#2730 [15:10] <|Kiikun|> mib_602a49: i highly doubt youve updated your java AND video drivers in 2 minutes
#2731 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_602a49 - To fix that error, you need to update your video drivers
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#2733 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> Midnight_Rambler - Yeah, don't touch svchost.
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#2735 [15:11] <ruk> Hiya guys, planning on buying Minecraft today. Just a quick question...
#2736 [15:11] <mib_602a49> oh sorry forgot bout video drivers
#2737 [15:11] <UrsusMinor78> btw use process explorer to view what processes actually are behind the svchost, helps sometimes ;)
#2738 [15:11] <|Kiikun|> ruk: shoot! :D *ducks the tnt!*
#2739 [15:11] <mib_602a49> where do i go 2 update them
#2740 [15:11] <ruk> Intel HD 3000/2000 graphics.
#2741 [15:11] <ruk> Will it run okay?
#2742 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> ruk - By itself? eh, it'll run minecraft. Question is how smoothly
#2743 [15:12] <ruk> Exactly.
#2744 [15:12] <mib_602a49> ???
#2745 [15:12] <|Kiikun|> ruk: intel has sucky support for OpenGL, which is what minecraft uses for rendering.
#2746 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> You won't be breaking any FPS records..
#2747 [15:12] <UrsusMinor78> @mib: what graphic card do you have?
#2748 [15:12] <ruk> I see...
#2749 [15:12] <|Kiikun|> ??> ruk demo
#2750 [15:12] <VoxelHead> ruk: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#2751 [15:12] <VoxelHead> ruk: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#2752 [15:12] <|Kiikun|> ruk: as a video test :D
#2753 [15:12] <ruk> Oh, great!
#2754 [15:12] <ruk> Thanks guys
#2755 [15:12] <Midnight_Rambler> now I am also wondering where those 2700 MB of RAM are going :S
#2756 [15:13] <UrsusMinor78> @midnight rambler did you select "show processes of all users" in task manager?
#2757 [15:13] <Midnight_Rambler> yup
#2758 [15:13] <|Kiikun|> ruk: also note that the new 1.8 has a SLIGHTLY higher requirement than 1.5 did (demos 1.5)
#2759 [15:13] <ruk> I'll let you know how it goes, in case somebody else comes asking the same question later
#2760 [15:13] <UrsusMinor78> which one hogs the most ram?
#2761 [15:13] <ruk> Oh, okay.
#2762 [15:14] <|Kiikun|> ruk: you shoudl be fine :P only macs have the issue
#2763 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Dang macs..
#2764 [15:14] <Chris> ^
#2765 [15:14] <almostroot> -_-
#2766 [15:14] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: yes.. didnt think apples coudl go pear shaped
#2767 [15:15] <Midnight_Rambler> UrsusMinor78 - one of the svchost processes, at 55 MB
#2768 [15:15] <ruk> Erm, lowering settings...
#2769 [15:15] <ruk> "Fancy" graphics seem to be a bit much
#2770 [15:15] <Midnight_Rambler> also there's a "Desktop Window Manager" eating 47 MB
#2771 [15:15] * almostroot would beat you all with his Mac Pro, but loves it too much to dent the case.
#2771 [15:15] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2771 [15:15] <|Kiikun|> Midnight_Rambler: dont touch that unless you dont like having a taskbar :P
#2772 [15:15] <Midnight_Rambler> no, I wasn't planning to xD
#2773 [15:16] <Iridium> so what graphics settings would be considered max?
#2774 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Fancy/far/max performance/advanced OpenGL
#2775 [15:16] <UrsusMinor78> @midnight rambler try http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653
#2776 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> What other options am I missing..
#2777 [15:17] <UrsusMinor78> there you can download process explorer to see what processes are behind the svchost processes
#2778 [15:17] <Netti> almostroot: are you sudo?
#2779 [15:17] <Midnight_Rambler> ok
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#2781 [15:17] <Iridium> i only get max fps, power saver and balanced for performance
#2782 [15:17] <Midnight_Rambler> the svchost processes together don't add up to anywhere near 2700 MB, though
#2783 [15:17] <UrsusMinor78> but dont kill any you dont know ;) just to c whats going on in your ram
#2784 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> er, I meant max fps > balanced > power saver
#2785 [15:17] <Iridium> i see
#2786 [15:18] <Iridium> and how do i tell my fps?
#2787 [15:18] <UrsusMinor78> yeah, it should show where your ram is going
#2788 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> F3
#2789 [15:18] <almostroot> Netti: Nope, but I'm in the wheel group.
#2790 [15:18] <Iridium> is 140-150 fps good?
#2791 [15:18] <|Kiikun|> mmm wheel group.
#2792 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> That's pretty good
#2793 [15:18] <|Kiikun|> sudo make me a sandwich.
#2794 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> You'll notice stutters when dropping to 30 or below
#2795 [15:19] <Iridium> i see, rofl
#2796 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> I like to keep it at least above monitor refresh of 60
#2797 [15:19] <Iridium> is anybody jealous? :P
#2798 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> Meh, Even my aging video card is pulling several hundred
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#2800 [15:20] <Midnight_Rambler> Iridium - I *am* jealous. mine is 11-14 when I'm LUCKY
#2801 [15:20] <ruk> Hm, I think setting it to fast is enough, but setting draw distance to medium also helped
#2802 [15:20] <Iridium> ouch
#2803 [15:20] <Netti> almostroot: ooh. fun.
#2804 [15:20] <Iridium> that's gotta suck
#2805 [15:20] <ruk> How come?
#2806 [15:21] <|Kiikun|> Fun Fact! TV And Film is only 29.97 FPS!
#2807 [15:21] <Midnight_Rambler> yeah. well, that in itself would be fine, but it has these terrible lag spikes...
#2808 [15:21] <Iridium> .97?
#2809 [15:21] <UrsusMinor78> @iridium is it a sandybridge cpu in your comp?
#2810 [15:21] <Midnight_Rambler> anyway, I did download Process Explorer
#2811 [15:21] <Iridium> nope
#2812 [15:21] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: google 'Drop Frame'
#2813 [15:21] * |Kiikun| took a video class :P
#2813 [15:21] <UrsusMinor78> @midnight_rambler: do you see your memory usage more clearly now?
#2814 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Hah, my 3 year old laptop is doing 50fps
#2815 [15:22] <Midnight_Rambler> it says the Desktop Window Manager is using 94 MB
#2816 [15:22] <|Kiikun|> higher frame rates were deemed too 'home movie looking'.... yeah...
#2817 [15:22] <Iridium> UrsusMinor78: my cpu is an intel core i5 3.2GHz
#2818 [15:22] <Wug> Midnight_Rambler: you should just do a clean os install
#2819 [15:22] <Midnight_Rambler> UrsusMinor78 - slightly higher figures for some processes, but still nothing that's really eating up big chunks all by itself
#2820 [15:22] <|Kiikun|> Midnight_Rambler: DWM = taskbar and window borders.. dont touch it!
#2821 [15:22] <Wug> it would be easier
#2822 [15:23] <Midnight_Rambler> Wug - wait, reinstall my OS?
#2823 [15:23] <Wug> wait
#2824 [15:23] <Midnight_Rambler> sounds a bit draconic to me xD
#2825 [15:23] <Wug> did you do something stupid like set it up not to use swap space
#2826 [15:23] <UrsusMinor78> hmmmm
#2827 [15:23] <Wug> because some people sometimes do stuff like that
#2828 [15:24] <Wug> it sounds like you just have dozens and dozens of programs running all at once
#2829 [15:24] <Midnight_Rambler> no, I didn't touch anything to do with "swap space". didn't even know what that was until a few minutes ago :P
#2830 [15:24] <Wug> they're probably all in startup somewhere
#2831 [15:24] <Midnight_Rambler> yes, that's what the list looks like
#2832 [15:24] <Iridium> is there any way to prevent my trees from branching?
#2833 [15:24] <Iridium> i'm using the 80% method
#2834 [15:24] <Wug> some of them are windows utilities and are supposed to be running
#2835 [15:24] <UrsusMinor78> @midnight_rambler did you try using msconfig?
#2836 [15:24] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: pine trees
#2837 [15:25] <Iridium> would they be better to farm than oak?
#2838 [15:25] <|Kiikun|> they dont branch :P
#2839 [15:25] <Midnight_Rambler> UrsusMinor78 - nope. where do I find it, and what does it do?
#2840 [15:25] <|Kiikun|> Midnight_Rambler: type /run msconfig
#2841 [15:25] <UrsusMinor78> just press windows+r and enter msconfig
#2842 [15:25] <Wug> I farm birch
#2843 [15:26] <|Kiikun|> erm..nm
#2844 [15:26] <Wug> there are no giant derp birch trees
#2845 [15:26] <|Kiikun|> listen to wug :P
#2846 [15:26] <UrsusMinor78> then under "startup" you see the programs that get start @system startup
#2847 [15:26] <Midnight_Rambler> ah, THAT window. yes, I've seen it before
#2848 [15:26] <|Kiikun|> or UrsusMinor78 :P
#2849 [15:26] <Wug> and they never grow so tall that you cant cut them down from ground level
#2850 [15:26] <Midnight_Rambler> (by the way, I've killed a lot of processes by now)
#2851 [15:26] <UrsusMinor78> now look under startup, are there many entries?
#2852 [15:26] <Wug> you might have to leave the stump and stand on it to get the highest one
#2853 [15:27] <Wug> inb4 Midnight_Rambler's computer crashes
#2854 [15:27] <Wug> someone should teamviewer this and make sure he doesnt break anything
#2855 [15:27] <Midnight_Rambler> yes, 26 entries
#2856 [15:27] <UrsusMinor78> do some of them tell you something?
#2857 [15:27] <Wug> I cant, I have *SPITS IMAGINARY COFFEE EVERYWHERE*
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#2859 [15:27] <Wug> 26 STARTUP ENTRIES
#2860 [15:27] <|Kiikun|> lol
#2861 [15:27] <Wug> *SPITS MORE COFFEE*
#2862 [15:28] <Wug> INFINITE COFFEE FLOOD
#2863 [15:28] <Midnight_Rambler> UrsusMinor78 - yes, most of them are quite obvious, like iTunes or uTorrent
#2864 [15:28] <|Kiikun|> i call half of them being updaters
#2865 [15:28] <Wug> ^
#2866 [15:28] <Wug> I run about 5 programs at startup
#2867 [15:28] <UrsusMinor78> do you NEED those? :)
#2868 [15:28] <Midnight_Rambler> Kiikun - I do see a few updaters here
#2869 [15:28] <Wug> >itunes
#2870 [15:28] <Wug> theres the problem
#2871 [15:28] <UrsusMinor78> i mean you dont need the itunes , you can start it manually
#2872 [15:28] <UrsusMinor78> or utorrent
#2873 [15:28] <Wug> utorrent is justified
#2874 [15:29] <UrsusMinor78> like the guys said most of them do nothing but hog ram and look for updates... ocasionally :)
#2875 [15:29] <Wug> its supposed to kind of run in the background and not need attention
#2876 [15:29] <Wug> it also has a small resource footprint
#2877 [15:29] * |Kiikun| has 13 according to msconfig
#2877 [15:29] <Wug> itunes though is the worst program ever written
#2878 [15:29] * |Kiikun| can kill 1
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#2879 [15:30] <MidnightRambler> sorry for that, my connection was acting up
#2880 [15:30] <MidnightRambler> did I miss anything?
#2881 [15:30] <UrsusMinor78> not really :D
#2882 [15:30] <MidnightRambler> ok
#2883 [15:30] <|Kiikun|> yes. ranting about itunes crappyness
#2884 [15:30] <Iridium> yeah, i just did an epic dance
#2885 [15:30] <UrsusMinor78> ok sorry guys ;)
#2886 [15:30] <Iridium> lol
#2887 [15:30] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: you fratterwakened!?
#2888 [15:30] <MidnightRambler> anyway, I don't think it would matter much, since I've killed most of these processes by now, and it didn't do much
#2889 [15:30] <UrsusMinor78> i forgot to mention those pieces of performance art
#2890 [15:30] <UrsusMinor78> ummmm
#2891 [15:30] <Iridium> |Kiikun| and what might that be?
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#2893 [15:31] <UrsusMinor78> you killed them in runtime?
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#2895 [15:31] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: go watch the alice in wonderland movie with depp
#2896 [15:31] <MidnightRambler> I guess? I just went to Task Manager and said End Process
#2897 [15:31] <UrsusMinor78> futterwacken rox
#2898 [15:31] <Iridium> |Kiikun| the tim burton one? i've seen that
#2899 [15:31] <UrsusMinor78> oioioi
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#2901 [15:31] <eldeoblo> hi does anyone know how to bypass a bad video card driver screen because mine is up to date
#2902 [15:32] <MidnightRambler> also, killed some by pressing delete in Process Explorer
#2903 [15:32] <UrsusMinor78> so how much ram you got @the moment
#2904 [15:32] <MidnightRambler> let's see
#2905 [15:32] <|Kiikun|> eldeoblo: you cant. its either NOT up to date, or unable to support minecraft.
#2906 [15:32] <onix> brought the game,got email ,got link to download,but game will not down load please help!
#2907 [15:32] <|Kiikun|> eldeoblo: you on windows?
#2908 [15:32] <onix> yes
#2909 [15:33] <eldeoblo> i am o windows and have 1gb
#2910 [15:33] <MidnightRambler> stupid connection again -.-
#2911 [15:33] <|Kiikun|> !client'
#2912 [15:33] <|Kiikun|> !client
#2913 [15:33] <UrsusMinor78> wb :) so how much ram available atm?
#2914 [15:33] <MidnightRambler> um, 70 MB :S
#2915 [15:33] <UrsusMinor78> WT*BEEP*
#2916 [15:34] <murdrums> You have 70MB RAM available atm?
#2917 [15:34] <eldeoblo> wait who was helping me i have 1 gb ram
#2918 [15:34] <murdrums> Eep!
#2919 [15:34] <MidnightRambler> like I said, it was 180 for a moment, then dropped sharply
#2920 [15:34] <MidnightRambler> I really have no idea where the other 2.7 - 2.8 GB is going...
#2921 [15:34] <eldeoblo> wat do i do
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#2924 [15:47] <G4JC> almostroot: yeah, Chris had said go ahead and use it. And I got some one here to get me Daniel's email. Usually companies don't have a problem for fan created artwork
#2925 [15:47] <|Kiichan|> oh.. aubot died :P rofl
#2926 [15:47] <G4JC> I knew "just using it" is ripping.
#2927 [15:47] <G4JC> Thankfully Cyan Worlds is a much nicer company
#2928 [15:47] <skippydippy> it was http://pastebin.com/2yYnekfx
#2929 [15:47] <G4JC> makes me want to try and find a OpenSource version of Minecraft...
#2930 [15:47] <G4JC> ha :P
#2931 [15:47] <|Kiichan|> G4JC: you can create fanart depicting minecraft.. but just cant use the textures
#2932 [15:48] <almostroot> G4JC: Meaning you can make your own, similar textures, but don't just rip and use theirs.
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#2934 [15:48] <Midnight_Rambler> right, I did a clean boot
#2935 [15:49] <G4JC> almostroot: Hmm, suppose so. They are easy enough to make, but still a Zombie will look like a Zombie and might as well be a copyright violation
#2936 [15:49] <Midnight_Rambler> and, lo and behold, I had 1380 MB of free RAM! (or something near that)
#2937 [15:49] <almostroot> G4JC: But not according to their terms.
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#2939 [15:50] <Midnight_Rambler> then I started Minecraft, and when it was running I had 456 MB free, which should mean that Minecraft is drawing all of its memory from actual RAM and not from ROM
#2940 [15:50] <|Kiichan|> . . .
#2941 [15:50] <|Kiichan|> Midnight_Rambler: i feel very scared fro you if your computer has ROM Memory...
#2942 [15:51] <skippydippy> did u see it? no rush. i would think ur not finished though. i no its long, take your time to read it.
#2943 [15:51] <almostroot> skippydippy: Update your graphics drivers from the AMD website.
#2944 [15:51] <|Kiichan|> skippydippy: oops *reads* its crashing on your video... damned ninjaed
#2945 [15:51] <almostroot> ??> skippydippy gpu/amd
#2946 [15:51] <VoxelHead> skippydippy: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2947 [15:52] <skippydippy> huh? im only 11
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#2949 [15:53] <|Kiichan|> skippydippy: go to the link VoxelHead said and either pick your video card out from the dropdown menus or click the 'AutoDetect my card' option
#2950 [15:53] <Great_White> Hi, where do I find a email for mojangs account help? I can't seem to find any...
#2951 [15:54] <almostroot> skippydippy: Click on the link VoxelHead provided, click on "Download Now" below Automatically Detect and Install. Save and run the program, following all instructions provided.
#2952 [15:54] <almostroot> ??> Great_White support
#2953 [15:54] <Great_White> I get "too many failed logins" when I try to connect all the time :(
#2954 [15:54] <VoxelHead> Great_White: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
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#2956 [15:54] <MidnightRambler> ...I hate my modem. I really do. -.-
#2957 [15:54] <MidnightRambler> anyway, where was I?
#2958 [15:54] <Great_White> almostroot, I read, I asked for a email, not support directly for you guys...
#2959 [15:55] <MidnightRambler> oh, right, I did a clean boot, had 1.3 - 1.4 GB of free RAM, started Minecraft, had 450 MB left, Minecraft still at 14 FPS
#2960 [15:55] <fault> check the support page, they have a form there
#2961 [15:55] <MidnightRambler> then I closed Minecraft, and something very strange happened.
#2962 [15:55] <Great_White> I can't find the form at all
#2963 [15:55] <almostroot> Great_White: No e-mail. Use the link.
#2964 [15:55] <MidnightRambler> the free RAM didn't return to 1.3 GB, but to 630 MB or thereabouts
#2965 [15:55] <|Kiichan|> Great_White: thats just a faqlet. we dont usually give out direct emails since the support site has the forms to fill out for any help
#2966 [15:56] <MidnightRambler> and then gradually dropped!
#2967 [15:56] <MidnightRambler> to 70 MB :S
#2968 [15:56] <Great_White> I've clicked through Account, Payment, Technical, Feedback, About
#2969 [15:56] <Great_White> and I can't find the form
#2970 [15:56] <fault> i'm sorry, are you associating ram usage with fps?
#2971 [15:56] <almostroot> Great_White: Actually read and follow through.
#2972 [15:56] <MidnightRambler> while I wasn't doing anything at the time! it just decreased over time
#2973 [15:57] <skippydippy> k i did that
#2974 [15:57] <fault> garbagecgc was running, that's all
#2975 [15:57] <MidnightRambler> fault - yeah, I've had some feedback from GreyVulpine and UrsusMinor78, who think it's a RAM issue
#2976 [15:58] <fault> *gc
#2977 [15:58] <MidnightRambler> and now we're trying to figure out what in Hendrix's name is eating my 2.8 GB of RAM xD
#2978 [15:58] <skippydippy> i downloaded and ran it
#2979 [15:58] <Great_White> almostroot, I've read, I've clicked the link, I used it before I even connected to esper.net, but it's not helping because I'm not getting any forms but the one for refund my game
#2980 [15:58] <almostroot> Great_White: What do you need to contact Mojang for?
#2981 [15:58] * |Kiichan| thinks theres a problem since there ARE no refunds....
#2981 [15:59] <Great_White> I get "Too many failed logins" whenever I try to login
#2982 [15:59] <Great_White> Despite me never having entered it wrong, as I save it
#2983 [15:59] <Great_White> I also tried changing my password, no effect
#2984 [15:59] <skippydippy> do i click download after i run the AMD window?
#2985 [15:59] <|Kiichan|> skippydippy: yes
#2986 [15:59] <almostroot> Great_White: Be patient and wait for a while. You
#2987 [15:59] <Great_White> I tried logging into my second account, worked perfectly
#2988 [16:00] <almostroot> Great_White: You've just tried to log in too many times. Verify that you can log in on minecraft.net.
#2989 [16:00] <skippydippy> k its downloading...
#2990 [16:00] <Great_White> almostroot, I said I changed my password, where do you think I did that?
#2991 [16:00] <Great_White> Perhaps on minecraft.net?
#2992 [16:00] <|Kiichan|> ?? Great_White attitude
#2993 [16:01] <|Kiichan|> ??> Great_White attitude
#2994 [16:01] * almostroot kicked Great_White from #minecrafthelp (Reason: reat_White :I hate rude people. Check your attitude.)
#2995 [16:01] <VoxelHead> Great_White: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#2996 [16:01] <VoxelHead> Great_White: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#2997 [16:01] <|Kiichan|> :P
#2998 [16:01] <|Kiichan|> or you can do that.
#2999 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Looks like I missed the fun...
#3000 [16:02] <almostroot> GreyVulpine: I tried to be nice. I really did.
#3001 [16:02] <|Kiichan|> indeed. i had to be careful not to tab to your nicks first :P
#3002 [16:02] <skippydippy> do i keep the speed limit: unlimeted
#3003 [16:02] <MidnightRambler> ah, GreyVulpine. I still haven't resolved my RAM issue :S
#3004 [16:02] <|Kiichan|> skippydippy: yes. that downloads at fastsest speed you can
#3005 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> I don't really know what else to tell you MidnightRambler
#3006 [16:03] <skippydippy> k
#3007 [16:03] <MidnightRambler> did you read my little "report" above?
#3008 [16:03] <MidnightRambler> the one about the RAM dropping over time etc.?
#3009 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Some sort of mem leak then
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#3012 [16:05] <skippydippy> now this little window popped up, do i click install
#3013 [16:06] <MidnightRambler> apparently, yes
#3014 [16:07] <skippydippy> hello?
#3015 [16:07] <MidnightRambler> well, I guess I'll have to take it to a computer store or something... I really have no idea what's eating all that RAM :S
#3016 [16:07] <|Kiichan|> skippydippy: yes
#3017 [16:07] <skippydippy> oh, ok
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#3019 [16:09] <MidnightRambler> but anyway, thanks for setting me on the right track :D at least I know that it's a RAM availability issue now
#3020 [16:09] <skippydippy> this big red window and this little window popped up, do i keep clicking next and agreing
#3021 [16:10] <skippydippy> i mean agreeing
#3022 [16:10] <|Kiichan|> skippydippy: yes
#3023 [16:11] <|Kiichan|> almostroot: a bit belated on the ban? or he ranting at you in pm?
#3024 [16:11] <Fewmets> How does the Linux Minecraft "Launcher.jar" file determine a default directory? I know that the Windows one uses the %appdata% parameter. Does Linux use $HOME ? I tried to modify it but the launcher still points towards the standard path.
#3025 [16:12] <|Kiichan|> Fewmets: ~/.minecraft/
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#3027 [16:12] <almostroot> |Kiichan|: PM.
#3028 [16:13] <reedlepee> MC server down?
#3029 [16:13] <|Kiichan|> Fewmets: and its how JAVA determines it. minecraft just makes the call to java... i think user.home
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#3031 [16:14] <Fewmets> Is there any way to custom set this directory through the .sh file or in java's parameters without moddifying the client?
#3032 [16:14] <skippydippy> in this window called ATI... its downloding something... do i just wait?
#3033 [16:15] <|Kiichan|> skippydippy: yes
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#3035 [16:15] <lastern> hi
#3036 [16:15] <lastern> why my launcher can't connect to minecraft.net?
#3037 [16:17] <Fewmets> Thank you very much for your help. I think I've figured out what I need to do.
#3038 [16:17] <|Kiichan|> Fewmets: HOME=/some/other/dir then run minecraft
#3039 [16:17] <skippydippy> theres a window thats called setup complete and do i restart comp or restart later?
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#3041 [16:17] <|Kiichan|> skippydippy: if its askign for a restart, do so now.
#3042 [16:17] <Fewmets> Kiichan, I've done that but when I launch it it uses the default directory. I think I'm going to try manually overriding the user.home parameter.
#3043 [16:18] <lastern> why my launcher can't connect to minecraft.net?
#3044 [16:18] <skippydippy> i click finish
#3045 [16:18] <|Kiichan|> ??> lastern error/cantconnect
#3046 [16:18] <VoxelHead> lastern: (error/cantconnect) Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#3047 [16:18] <VoxelHead> lastern: (error/cantconnect) This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
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#3049 [16:19] <lastern> java asked me to update it today and i did :o
#3050 [16:19] <lastern> how can i uninstall java?
#3051 [16:19] * mib_9v0tdq [mib_9v0tdq@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3052 [16:19] <mib_9v0tdq> hey all
#3053 [16:19] <mib_9v0tdq> MC servers down?
#3054 [16:20] <lastern> think so
#3055 [16:20] <mib_9v0tdq> 4 update?
#3056 [16:20] <lastern> did u updated ur java too?
#3057 [16:20] <lastern> today
#3058 [16:20] <mib_9v0tdq> me?
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#3060 [16:20] <|Kiichan|> hmm...
#3061 [16:20] <lastern> ye
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#3063 [16:20] <|Kiichan|> servers might actually be down
#3064 [16:20] <mib_9v0tdq> no!
#3065 [16:20] <mib_9v0tdq> java is uptodate
#3066 [16:20] <lastern> after i updated my java my minecraft got started crashing
#3067 [16:21] <mib_9v0tdq> NO but i know that prob
#3068 [16:21] <|Kiichan|> server is down for me too.. guess we all have to wait! :D
#3069 [16:21] <mib_9v0tdq> u gut the right java version? 32 or 64 bit?
#3070 [16:21] <lastern> :'(
#3071 [16:21] <lastern> 32
#3072 [16:21] <mib_9v0tdq> and ur system?
#3073 [16:21] <lastern> yeah it just asked me to update it today
#3074 [16:21] <lastern> and i did
#3075 [16:21] <mib_9v0tdq> okay!
#3076 [16:21] <lastern> 2.43 Ghz
#3077 [16:21] <lastern> 2GB Ram
#3078 [16:22] <mib_9v0tdq> 32bit system?
#3079 [16:22] <lastern> 1024 Graphic card
#3080 [16:22] <lastern> ye 32
#3081 [16:22] <lastern> xp
#3082 [16:22] <mib_9v0tdq> okay! if the prob continues u might deinstall java and install the latest version from java page manue
#3083 [16:22] <mib_9v0tdq> l
#3084 [16:23] <lastern> ok now i'm trying for it
#3085 [16:23] <mib_9v0tdq> i want the servers back! bäm bäm
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#3087 [16:25] <mib_1k2pre> hii
#3088 [16:25] <mib_1k2pre> can someon help me :s
#3089 [16:25] <|Kiichan|> ?
#3090 [16:25] <mib_1k2pre> if a wanna run my minecraft it dont run
#3091 [16:26] <mib_1k2pre> i double click it it loads but nothing ...
#3092 [16:26] <|Kiichan|> launcher opens or no?
#3093 [16:26] <mib_1k2pre> ?
#3094 [16:27] <|Kiichan|> window you log in with
#3095 [16:27] <mib_1k2pre> minecraft.exe
#3096 [16:27] <lastern> aww :S
#3097 [16:27] <lastern> now i'm getting black screen while playing
#3098 [16:27] <mib_1k2pre> :'(
#3099 [16:27] <lastern> when i use sprint walking
#3100 [16:27] * mib_f1v8kg [mib_f1v8kg@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3101 [16:27] <mib_1k2pre> i cant play
#3102 [16:28] <mib_1k2pre> my minecraft don't start
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#3104 [16:28] <lastern> is it stucking at loging in?
#3105 [16:28] <augiedoggie> hey whats up with minecraft?
#3106 [16:28] <mib_9v0tdq> servers dn
#3107 [16:28] <|Kiichan|> !authdown
#3108 [16:28] <lemon-rev> mib_1k2pre try going to minecraft.net and login when its up, and click in broswer
#3109 [16:28] <mib_1k2pre> it dont come @ login
#3110 [16:28] <mib_1k2pre> i klick on minecraft.exe
#3111 [16:28] <mib_f1v8kg> l
#3112 [16:28] <mib_1k2pre> it loads
#3113 [16:28] <mib_1k2pre> and nothing...
#3114 [16:28] <augiedoggie> ok so i cant use my own server?
#3115 [16:29] <lemon-rev> mib_1k2pre what you mean a black screen ?
#3116 [16:29] <mib_1k2pre> and than i download it again
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#3118 [16:29] <lastern> me?
#3119 [16:29] <lastern> i said black screen @lemon-rev
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#3121 [16:29] <lemon-rev> mib_1k2pre what vers of java you got ?
#3122 [16:29] <mib_1k2pre> it just the same :s
#3123 [16:29] <|Kiichan|> ??> augiedoggie smp/serversetup
#3124 [16:29] <VoxelHead> augiedoggie: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#3125 [16:29] <VoxelHead> augiedoggie: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
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#3127 [16:29] <lemon-rev> lastern black screens are java what version of java have you got ?
#3128 [16:30] <lastern> just updated java
#3129 [16:30] <mib_1k2pre> the latest
#3130 [16:30] <mib_1k2pre> i have done it
#3131 [16:30] <lastern> i checked fps when i'm running its 128
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#3133 [16:30] <mib_1k2pre> it dont work ...
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#3135 [16:30] <|Kiichan|> augiedoggie: so long as the auth servers are down you cant connect normally unless the server is in offlinemode.. but that iopens you to pirates and spoofers
#3136 [16:30] <lemon-rev> what version is the latest i need to know theres a beta java and tghen theres the ligit version 6 . .....
#3137 [16:30] <lastern> and when i use sprint walking it decreases and black screen!
#3138 [16:30] <lastern> bam bam
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#3140 [16:30] <mib_1k2pre> sec
#3141 [16:30] <mib_1k2pre> 6 i think
#3142 [16:30] <lemon-rev> lastern so the game is working
#3143 [16:31] <mib_7186yj> Hello?
#3144 [16:31] <WindChanneller> Anyone Else geting cant connect to minecraft.net in the launcher?
#3145 [16:31] <lastern> game is working yeah
#3146 [16:31] <mib_7186yj> yes
#3147 [16:31] <lemon-rev> mib_1k2pre you can check the version via java.com
#3148 [16:31] <lemon-rev> lastern it only happens when you run ?
#3149 [16:31] <mib_4ql1to> My minecraft is not connecting to minecraft.net
#3150 [16:31] <mib_7186yj> apparently its down
#3151 [16:31] <mib_7186yj> exactly
#3152 [16:31] <mib_7186yj> yes,
#3153 [16:31] <lastern> but my fps decreasing when i use sprint walking and crash! black screen
#3154 [16:31] <augiedoggie> ok the server is already setup..running in fact...keeps saying bad login cause I cant login
#3155 [16:31] <mib_4ql1to> same here
#3156 [16:31] <mib_7186yj> I have accidentally deleted .minecraft in %appdata%
#3157 [16:31] <lemon-rev> mib_7186yj then keep trying it will come up evenually
#3158 [16:31] <rEvolutionTU> If I'm having trouble with purchasing Minecraft, is this the place to ask?
#3159 [16:31] <|Kiichan|> augiedoggie: because the auth servers are down
#3160 [16:31] * mib_fw5rzb [mib_fw5rzb@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3161 [16:32] <lemon-rev> lastern windows / mac ?
#3162 [16:32] <mib_7186yj> windows
#3163 [16:32] <mib_1k2pre> if a wanna run my minecraft
#3164 [16:32] <lastern> lemon-rev windows
#3165 [16:32] <lemon-rev> mib_7186yj then you will have to wait untill your able to connect because if you have deleted those files needed to run it, then once the site is back up you should be good
#3166 [16:32] <mib_1k2pre> i double click
#3167 [16:32] <mib_4ql1to> @rEvolutionTU Whats the problem
#3168 [16:32] <lemon-rev> ??> lastern win/dxdiag
#3169 [16:32] <VoxelHead> lastern: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3170 [16:32] <VoxelHead> lastern: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3171 [16:32] <mib_1k2pre> oit loads but nothing :S
#3172 [16:32] <jevans> anyone having trouble connecting to minecraft.net?
#3173 [16:33] <mib_7186yj> I YES
#3174 [16:33] <mib_7186yj> *sorrry
#3175 [16:33] <lemon-rev> mib_1k2pre can you try and keep on trying the website till it comes back up, again ok
#3176 [16:33] <rEvolutionTU> Well basicly I just bought it, the next window said the transaction failed and I should return to other options and now it says "purchase complete, your status should update within the hour"
#3177 [16:33] <mib_7186yj> yes everyone is having issues with minecraft.bet
#3178 [16:33] <rEvolutionTU> so wtf is going on now? =P
#3179 [16:33] <mib_7186yj> *net
#3180 [16:33] <|Kiichan|> Auth Servers Back Up! Everyone with 'Cant Connect' errors go try again!
#3181 [16:33] <mib_4ql1to> MAC-cannot connect and bad login HATE IT
#3182 [16:33] <jevans> Kthx
#3183 [16:33] <lemon-rev> mib_7186yj i know we cant do anything you just have to either play something else or try later
#3184 [16:34] <mib_1k2pre> i cant run minecraft.exe!!!!!!!
#3185 [16:34] <mib_4ql1to> YES IT WORKS
#3186 [16:34] <mib_7186yj> thank you lemon-rev
#3187 [16:34] <almostroot> rEvolutionTU: See if the money was debited out of your account. If not, the payment did not go through. Try again.
#3188 [16:34] <Netti> So many mibs.
#3189 [16:34] <lastern> lemon-rev http://pastebin.com/VC2MdCxR
#3190 [16:34] <lemon-rev> ty lastern
#3191 [16:34] <augiedoggie> WOOHOOO!!
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#3193 [16:34] <jevans> thanks for the help, bye.
#3194 [16:34] <mib_1k2pre> the other week it works this week nothing...
#3195 [16:35] <augiedoggie> i'm back in
#3196 [16:35] <augiedoggie> thanx
#3197 [16:35] <augiedoggie> and l8r!
#3198 [16:35] <almostroot> lastern: "Sprint walking" is from a mods. Mods are unstable and we do NOT support them here.
#3199 [16:35] <osaeed> Hi, what is the proper way of contact notch or the mojang team about account issues?
#3200 [16:35] <osaeed> thank you.
#3201 [16:35] <mib_1k2pre> can someon help me pls!!
#3202 [16:35] <almostroot> ??> lastern mods
#3203 [16:35] <VoxelHead> lastern: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3204 [16:35] <VoxelHead> lastern: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use
#3205 [16:35] <almostroot> osaeed: What exactly is your issue?
#3206 [16:35] <lastern> it is not a mod -.-
#3207 [16:35] <almostroot> ??> osaeed support
#3208 [16:35] <VoxelHead> osaeed: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#3209 [16:35] <lastern> i'm just using 2x w
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#3211 [16:36] <osaeed> I have a friend who purchased minecraft and when she signs in, she gets a message saying "User not Premium"
#3212 [16:36] <osaeed> she purchased it on 9-17-11
#3213 [16:36] <lastern> minecraft.net servers up!
#3214 [16:36] <rumpler> my minecraft isnt working
#3215 [16:36] <lemon-rev> lastern ok dude, your drivers look like there totally up todate including your video and sound drivers / only thing left is to make sure that all the files from minecraft are properly there but because the net is having trouble with minecraft.net then i sugest not deleting anything unless we know the site is back up and working again, but that is what i want you to try when its running
#3216 [16:36] <lemon-rev> again ok
#3217 [16:36] <rEvolutionTU> cheers voxel/root <3
#3218 [16:36] <lemon-rev> osaeed how long ago
#3219 [16:37] <rEvolutionTU> actually is there some way to check from my minecraft account if the payment went through?
#3220 [16:37] <lastern> i can login now lemon-rev
#3221 [16:37] <rumpler> i have windows xp
#3222 [16:37] <almostroot> rEvolutionTU: What account name did you try to register with?
#3223 [16:37] <lastern> i think servers are up
#3224 [16:37] <lemon-rev> rEvolutionTU if the bot is working i can try whats your username
#3225 [16:37] <osaeed> lemon? do you mean when did she purchase the acct?
#3226 [16:37] <lemon-rev> ??> lastern win/reinst
#3227 [16:37] <VoxelHead> lastern: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3228 [16:37] <VoxelHead> lastern: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3229 [16:37] <lemon-rev> osaeed yes when did she buy the account
#3230 [16:38] <rEvolutionTU> accname is rEvolutionTU
#3231 [16:38] <lastern> aww :/
#3232 [16:38] <almostroot> !paid rEvolutionTU
#3233 [16:38] <osaeed> she purchased it on 9-17-11
#3234 [16:38] <rumpler> hello? rumpler
#3235 [16:38] <lemon-rev> !paid rEvolutionTU
#3236 [16:38] <lemon-rev> hm
#3237 [16:38] <rEvolutionTU> :(
#3238 [16:38] <lemon-rev> rEvolutionTU dude how long ago was the payment made
#3239 [16:38] <rEvolutionTU> like 5mins =P
#3240 [16:38] <lastern> btw i dont have a shader folder in bin O_O
#3241 [16:38] <rEvolutionTU> so I guess it might take time to update
#3242 [16:38] <osaeed> i thought it might be a problem with the client, but i checked on my pc and same message
#3243 [16:38] <osaeed> as well as my brothers computer
#3244 [16:38] <rEvolutionTU> im just being confused cause it first said payment failed and then that the purchase was complete
#3245 [16:39] <almostroot> rEvolutionTU: See if the money was debited out of your account. If not, the payment did not go through. Try again.
#3246 [16:39] <osaeed> i sent a twitter message to notch though, not sure if he will check
#3247 [16:39] <rumpler> rumpler
#3248 [16:39] <rEvolutionTU> kk
#3249 [16:39] <lemon-rev> osaeed ok, if its like today or yesterday she still might have to wait it can take up to about 3 days but it depends if the funds have b een totally withdrawn from the account from mojang
#3250 [16:39] <almostroot> ??> osaeed payment
#3251 [16:39] <VoxelHead> osaeed: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#3252 [16:39] <VoxelHead> osaeed: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
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#3254 [16:40] <osaeed> yea, it was through moneybookers
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#3256 [16:40] <lemon-rev> osaeed its a little hard for mojang to hit on one account just because you asked them too they need like the id number or what ever number they get there end to check with there bank and whatnot, so checking is one thing processing is another
#3257 [16:40] <rumpler> i have a windows xp and my minecraft isnt working!
#3258 [16:40] <osaeed> thank you almost root, and voxelhead, ill try my best to get contact with them
#3259 [16:40] <osaeed> right
#3260 [16:40] <lemon-rev> osaeed then ring moneybrokers and ask if mojang has taken there side of the account if not theen thats why the account hasnt been activated
#3261 [16:41] <lemon-rev> rumpler we need more to go on
#3262 [16:41] <Kyriog> Hi all, does anyone knows if minecraft works with the nouveau module (for nvidia cards) for GNU/Linux?
#3263 [16:41] <lemon-rev> Kyriog cant answer your question sorry
#3264 [16:41] <rumpler> hello
#3265 [16:42] <Kyriog> no problem lemon-rev ;)
#3266 [16:42] <lemon-rev> rumpler read what i just told you
#3267 [16:42] <osaeed> also my friend forwarded a email from moneybookres saying The amount of USD 21.95 has successfully been debited from your credit/debit card. This charge will appear on your card statement as a debit by: MB*Mojang
#3268 [16:42] <osaeed> but i will still find out
#3269 [16:42] <osaeed> thanks for all of your support
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#3271 [16:44] <lastern> yay after force updating my mc i'm not getting black screen while running thanks
#3272 [16:44] <lemon-rev> np
#3273 [16:45] <rumpler> hello anyone! i need help
#3274 [16:45] <lemon-rev> rumpler we need better explantion of why your mc wont work
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#3276 [16:47] <osaeed> hi lemon, is there an email?
#3277 [16:47] <osaeed> for account related issues?
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#3279 [16:47] <lemon-rev> no, only minecraft.net / help section
#3280 [16:47] <osaeed> oh ok
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#3282 [16:48] <gunther> HELLO
#3283 [16:48] <Satriani> Hey
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#3285 [16:48] <gunther> do you know if any minecraft admin come on here
#3286 [16:49] <lemon-rev> we are all community help here, no mojang admin
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#3288 [16:49] <wilma> my minecraft doesn't work :'s
#3289 [16:49] <gunther> oh ok where will i get an mojang admin
#3290 [16:49] <lemon-rev> yea yea thats why your here, what part about it doesnt work and what do you see
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#3292 [16:50] <wilma> if i wanna start the game it don't start up...
#3293 [16:50] <Bjs300> Same thing w/ me wilma
#3294 [16:50] <Satriani> Hum, I'm having a big problem with Minecraft, but is there any french people here, cause I'm french and it well be helpfull.
#3295 [16:50] <Bjs300> I just downloaded MC patcher
#3296 [16:50] <wilma> i'm dutch....
#3297 [16:51] <Bjs300> annnd i use browser now it wont work :(
#3298 [16:51] <lemon-rev> Bjs300 if you want mod help you could try #bukkit but not exactly the place to be we can get mc working again but it will be with out your loader
#3299 [16:51] <gunther> Anyone know where I would be able to contact Mojang
#3300 [16:52] <wilma> i cant start my minecraft and i download it, and than its tha same problem :'(
#3301 [16:52] <Bjs300> Well I want MC patcher on but mc working cuz my texture pack
#3302 [16:52] <almostroot> gunther: What is your issue?
#3303 [16:52] <lemon-rev> ?? mods
#3304 [16:52] <wilma> ?
#3305 [16:52] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3306 [16:52] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use
#3307 [16:52] <Bjs300> Im not here for a mod
#3308 [16:53] <almostroot> Bjs300: McPatcher is a mod.
#3309 [16:53] <wilma> i'm here for help
#3310 [16:53] <Bjs300> Oh. :P
#3311 [16:53] <gunther> almostroot Im wanting to see if i could change my username
#3312 [16:53] <Bjs300> I didnt know.
#3313 [16:53] <almostroot> wilma: What is your issue.
#3314 [16:53] <almostroot> gunther: There is no way to do that at this time.
#3315 [16:53] <Bjs300> Sorry!
#3316 [16:53] <wilma> my minecraft dont start up
#3317 [16:53] <Bjs300> Ty voxel for lettin me know
#3318 [16:53] <almostroot> wilma: Can you be more specific?
#3319 [16:53] <almostroot> ?? bot
#3320 [16:53] <gunther> almostroot You mean at this time of day or you cant do it
#3321 [16:53] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, sometimes a sock-puppet, but never an independant helper.
#3322 [16:54] <almostroot> gunther: Mojang does;t allow username changes.
#3323 [16:54] <gunther> almostroot Oh ok are you part of them then
#3324 [16:54] <Bjs300> almostroot: I saw a quick username change once.
#3325 [16:54] <Bjs300> Idk how but I saw it
#3326 [16:54] <wilma> uhm.. if i wanna runn my minecraft for playing i double click it ,, it loads for 2sec and nothing happend :s
#3327 [16:54] <almostroot> Bjs300: Maybe on the local machine, but never a Minecraft account.
#3328 [16:55] <almostroot> wilma: Does it create a file in the same location as the launcher?
#3329 [16:55] <Satriani> When I start Minecraft, it tells me : "Pixel format not accelerated", can someone help me with this?
#3330 [16:55] <wilma> nope
#3331 [16:55] <almostroot> Satriani: Go to the web site of your graphics card maker and download the latest drivers. Install them, reboot.
#3332 [16:55] <gunther> almostroot Oh ok are you part of them then
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#3334 [16:55] <Iridium> hai guys, i'm back
#3335 [16:55] <almostroot> gunther: No, I just know they do not do username changes.
#3336 [16:55] <Satriani> Okay, thanks
#3337 [16:56] <almostroot> wilma: What version of Java do you currently have installed?
#3338 [16:56] <almostroot> ??> wilma java/version
#3339 [16:56] <VoxelHead> wilma: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#3340 [16:56] <gunther> almostroot ok do you know how i could contact them and double check
#3341 [16:56] <VoxelHead> wilma: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3342 [16:56] <wilma> the latest
#3343 [16:56] <almostroot> gunther: www.minecraft.net/support but do not expect a response back. Enjoy wasting your time.
#3344 [16:57] <almostroot> wilma: Which is what version?
#3345 [16:57] <gunther> thank you
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#3347 [16:57] <wilma> where can i see it ?
#3348 [16:58] <wilma> version 6
#3349 [16:58] <almostroot> wilma: What update?
#3350 [16:58] <wilma> what ?
#3351 [16:58] <almostroot> wilma: Version 6 update ??
#3352 [16:58] <almostroot> ??> wilma java/version
#3353 [16:58] <VoxelHead> wilma: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#3354 [16:58] <VoxelHead> wilma: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3355 [16:59] <wilma> update 27
#3356 [16:59] <almostroot> wilma: Does the web browser version work?
#3357 [16:59] <almostroot> ??> wilma play
#3358 [16:59] <VoxelHead> wilma: (play) http://www.minecraft.net/play
#3359 [17:01] <wilma> it doesn't work
#3360 [17:01] <almostroot> wilma: Does it give you an error? Black screen? White screen?
#3361 [17:01] <wilma> white screen
#3362 [17:02] <almostroot> wilma: Go to the web site of your graphics card maker and download the latest drivers. Install them, reboot.
#3363 [17:02] <wilma> huhh
#3364 [17:02] <almostroot> wilma: What operating system are you using?
#3365 [17:02] <wilma> idk
#3366 [17:02] <almostroot> wilma: Windows?
#3367 [17:02] <wilma> what card ?
#3368 [17:03] <wilma> yea
#3369 [17:03] <almostroot> ??> wilma win/dxdiag
#3370 [17:03] <VoxelHead> wilma: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3371 [17:03] <VoxelHead> wilma: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#3373 [17:04] <wilma> ?
#3374 [17:04] <almostroot> wilma: Follow those directions.
#3375 [17:04] <wilma> win+r keys :O
#3376 [17:05] <almostroot> ??> wilma win/key
#3377 [17:05] <VoxelHead> wilma: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#3378 [17:06] <wilma> if i type
#3379 [17:06] <wilma> dixiag
#3380 [17:06] <wilma> it dont doe anything
#3381 [17:07] <almostroot> wilma: Go back and read the directions.
#3382 [17:07] <wilma> do*
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#3384 [17:07] <wilma> i dont get it :c
#3385 [17:07] <wilma> i'm 10 years old lol :'c
#3386 [17:07] <almostroot> wilma: Then wait around for someone to walk you through step by step.
#3387 [17:07] <fuogo> my video card doesnt support minecraft, its too good for it
#3388 [17:08] <Bjs300> Oh cmon!!!!
#3389 [17:08] <Ryladine> Lol I have time and patients, thats their problem besides not being able to open run?
#3390 [17:08] <Ryladine> patience*
#3391 [17:08] <Ryladine> whats*
#3392 [17:08] <almostroot> Ryladine: White screen, possible drivers, trying to get a dxidag.
#3393 [17:08] <almostroot> dxdiag*
#3394 [17:09] <Ryladine> Ah alright.
#3395 [17:09] <Ryladine> Wilma: I assume yo are on windows, when you press the start menu button, is there a search bar on the start menu?
#3396 [17:09] <almostroot> When I was 10 I had already built my own computer... :/ Today's youth.
#3397 [17:09] <Ryladine> Lol
#3398 [17:10] <Ryladine> I hadn't built one, but I was certainly on my way to learning :*
#3399 [17:10] <Ryladine> Fff Now if I can just learn to type without all the damn typ's
#3400 [17:10] * Ryladine cries
#3400 [17:11] <almostroot> Ryladine: http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-ultimate/
#3401 [17:11] <Ryladine> Nice sitting waiting for a response and I completely overlook that they left.
#3402 [17:12] <Ryladine> Lol I would still get typo's, it's not tha tI have to look, it's that I keep hitting the wrong damn key, or windows ignores I press it altogther.
#3403 [17:13] <almostroot> Ryladine: http://www.amazon.com/EZSee-DC-Individuals-Over-sized-Background/dp/B0039O9LCM
#3404 [17:13] <Ryladine> Then theres the times when I type the the words in the wrong order....
#3405 [17:13] <Ryladine> LOL
#3406 [17:13] <almostroot> I just found what I;m getting my parents for Christmas...
#3407 [17:14] <Ryladine> Thats the sort of keyboard schools should have for teaching typing :)
#3408 [17:14] <Ryladine> lol
#3409 [17:14] <Bjs300> What?
#3410 [17:14] <Ryladine> Give it a high-contrast backlight, and vocal reading of each key pressed and it would be perfect :)
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#3413 [17:20] <xxvalkyri3xx> excuse me but can somebody help me?
#3414 [17:21] <almostroot> xxvalkyri3xx: We can try. What's up?
#3415 [17:21] <Ryladine> Certainly, if you can tell us whats wrong.
#3416 [17:21] <xxvalkyri3xx> well my game wont let me log in
#3417 [17:21] <almostroot> xxvalkyri3xx: Does it give you an error?
#3418 [17:21] <xxvalkyri3xx> it is saying cannot connect to minecraft liek i have no internet or my acc isnt premium
#3419 [17:21] <almostroot> xxvalkyri3xx: Does the web browser version work?
#3420 [17:21] <almostroot> ??> xxvalkyri3xx play
#3421 [17:21] <xxvalkyri3xx> well it logs in
#3422 [17:21] <VoxelHead> xxvalkyri3xx: (play) http://www.minecraft.net/play
#3423 [17:22] <xxvalkyri3xx> but it crashes cuz i has terrible graphics cards
#3424 [17:22] <xxvalkyri3xx> and that it cannot find an available open gl
#3425 [17:23] <almostroot> xxvalkyri3xx: So if your issue that you can;t log in, or that it crashes with a message about your video card?
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#3427 [17:23] <almostroot> if/is
#3428 [17:23] <xxvalkyri3xx> the web browser is the cards
#3429 [17:23] <xxvalkyri3xx> the download wont let me connect
#3430 [17:23] <bloxgate> are the minecraft forums down?
#3431 [17:23] <xxvalkyri3xx> but i play it offline just fine
#3432 [17:23] <xxvalkyri3xx> no
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#3434 [17:24] <almostroot> xxvalkyri3xx: You need to update your graphics card drivers from the maker's website (i.e. Intel, AMd/ATI, NVIDIA) and you need to add an exception in your firewall/antivirus for Minecraft and Java.
#3435 [17:24] <xxvalkyri3xx> how do i access the firewall
#3436 [17:24] <xxvalkyri3xx> i dont have an actual download
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#3438 [17:24] <almostroot> xxvalkyri3xx: Depends on the firewall. Do you have Norton or Comodo or Kaspersky?
#3439 [17:24] <xxvalkyri3xx> none
#3440 [17:25] <almostroot> xxvalkyri3xx: Then it is the Windows firewall.
#3441 [17:25] <xxvalkyri3xx> there isnt one on my computer
#3442 [17:25] <xxvalkyri3xx> yeah
#3443 [17:25] <xxvalkyri3xx> how do i get to that?
#3444 [17:25] <xxvalkyri3xx> i have team viewer if you want
#3445 [17:25] <almostroot> xxvalkyri3xx: Using Windows 7?
#3446 [17:26] <xxvalkyri3xx> no
#3447 [17:26] <xxvalkyri3xx> windows xp
#3448 [17:26] <almostroot> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/842242
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#3450 [17:26] <kevin3535> my when i launch minecraft there a screen
#3451 [17:26] <almostroot> Try the information at that link.
#3452 [17:26] <II_Zero_II> hello
#3453 [17:27] <kevin3535> when i launch minecraft there is a black screen
#3454 [17:27] <II_Zero_II> My minecraft client won't let me login- i logged in only once, and shut the program down a bit ago, recently tried to login again- get error message " too many failed login attempts" how do i fix this so i can play multiplayer again?
#3455 [17:29] <xxvalkyri3xx> almostroot
#3456 [17:30] <xxvalkyri3xx> it says to run a program but it doesnt work >.>
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#3458 [17:30] <II_Zero_II> anyone?
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#3461 [17:32] <rEvolutionTU> !paid rEvolutionTU
#3462 [17:32] <rEvolutionTU> sigh :(
#3463 [17:33] <kevinrules35> my screen gos black when i launch minecraft
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#3465 [17:34] <xxvalkyri3xx> kevin have you tried to install any mods
#3466 [17:34] <kevinrules35> yeah and i tried to delete them
#3467 [17:34] <xxvalkyri3xx> yeahh u cant
#3468 [17:34] <xxvalkyri3xx> u need to back up minecraft
#3469 [17:34] <kevinrules35> hoew
#3470 [17:35] <II_Zero_II> yea click options and select force update
#3471 [17:35] <xxvalkyri3xx> fin your .minecraft file
#3472 [17:35] <xxvalkyri3xx> yeah
#3473 [17:35] <xxvalkyri3xx> force update
#3474 [17:35] <II_Zero_II> that will give you a fresh jar file
#3475 [17:35] <II_Zero_II> My minecraft client won't let me login- i logged in only once, and shut the program down a bit ago, recently tried to login again- get error message " too many failed login attempts" how do i fix this so i can play multiplayer again?
#3476 [17:35] <kevinrules35> so wher edo i go to do that
#3477 [17:35] <II_Zero_II> anyone know how to fix this ^
#3478 [17:35] <II_Zero_II> close the client
#3479 [17:35] <II_Zero_II> run it again
#3480 [17:35] <II_Zero_II> bottom right options button
#3481 [17:35] <II_Zero_II> click it
#3482 [17:35] <II_Zero_II> the rest you should be able to do as its self explainatory
#3483 [17:35] <II_Zero_II> ^^
#3484 [17:36] <II_Zero_II> btw nvm about my problem
#3485 [17:36] <II_Zero_II> it jst let me back in finally
#3486 [17:36] <almostroot> II_Zero_II: Patience is key.
#3487 [17:36] <kevinrules35> i redownloaded and i didnt do anything
#3488 [17:36] <almostroot> kevinrules35: Using Windows?
#3489 [17:36] <kevinrules35> yeah
#3490 [17:36] <almostroot> ??> kevinrules35 win/reinst/bat
#3491 [17:36] <VoxelHead> kevinrules35: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#3492 [17:36] <VoxelHead> kevinrules35: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/MinecraftReinstall.bat (stop changing the link)
#3493 [17:37] <kevinrules35> that is ablocked page
#3494 [17:37] <kevinrules35> im on minecraft . net now what do i do
#3495 [17:38] <Iridium> what should i make my first house out of?
#3496 [17:38] <almostroot> ??> kevinrules35 win/reinst
#3497 [17:38] <Iridium> i usually make it out of wood but i just burnt it
#3498 [17:38] <VoxelHead> kevinrules35: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3499 [17:38] <VoxelHead> kevinrules35: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3503 [17:41] <cyyau> hi, i'm getting a Too Many Failed Logins problem can anyone give me any advice?
#3504 [17:43] <kevinrules35> NOOOOOOOOOO IT DIDNT WORK NO
#3505 [17:43] <rEvolutionTU> Sigh, my purchase still not updating. :( ... Where can I reach the "official" support?
#3506 [17:44] <almostroot> ??> rEvolutionTU supoprt
#3507 [17:44] <almostroot> ??> rEvolutionTU support
#3508 [17:44] <VoxelHead> rEvolutionTU: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#3509 [17:44] <almostroot> kevinrules35: What version of Java are you using?
#3510 [17:44] <almostroot> ??> kevinrules35 java/version
#3511 [17:44] <VoxelHead> kevinrules35: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#3512 [17:44] <VoxelHead> kevinrules35: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#3513 [17:44] <rEvolutionTU> i like how theres no link on the minecraft.net page to that support thingy =D .. cheers <3
#3514 [17:44] <rEvolutionTU> actually that support links goes to http://www.minecraft.net/ for me as well
#3515 [17:45] <rEvolutionTU> :S
#3516 [17:45] <almostroot> rEvolutionTU: It shouldn't.
#3517 [17:45] <rEvolutionTU> wtf. works on the 2nd try
#3518 [17:45] <rEvolutionTU> whatever :S
#3519 [17:45] <rEvolutionTU> <3
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#3522 [17:48] <Bjs300> Can somebody help me? (Yes I uninstalled MCpatcher)
#3523 [17:49] <rEvolutionTU> Asking the real question instead of some metaquestion usually helps, Bjs300 =)
#3524 [17:49] <Bjs300> Whenever I try to play mc on the browser It goes from black screen to white screen to blank screen And when I mean blank I mean it shows my next tab.
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#3526 [17:50] <Bjs300> rEvolutionTU:Whenever I try to play mc on the browser It goes from black screen to white screen to blank screen And when I mean blank I mean it shows my next tab.
#3527 [17:51] <rEvolutionTU> I'm none of the official helpers here, just helped you to get your actual question in here. Now you have to hope someone who knows what might be the cause will help you out. =P
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#3529 [17:52] <Memememmememmem> Can someone help me? I cant chop wood in teh game... :(
#3530 [17:52] <Bjs300> Well then-Somebody help!
#3531 [17:53] <SUPER> Testing user =3
#3532 [17:53] <SUPER> Anyone helping?
#3533 [17:53] <Bjs300> SUPER: Have you edited any files ingame? If not try restarting the launcher
#3534 [17:54] <SUPER> "Edited any files ingame"?
#3535 [17:54] <TheBadShepperd> SUPER, are you making sure you are holding left click, and not just clicking repeatdly? ;)
#3536 [17:54] <Bjs300> Like for the game.
#3537 [17:54] <Bjs300> :P
#3538 [17:54] <Bjs300> Yah gotta hold it!
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#3540 [17:54] <SUPER> Im clicking repeatitly
#3541 [17:54] <SUPER> Na-da
#3542 [17:54] <Bjs300> Hold the mouse :P
#3543 [17:54] <TheBadShepperd> Hold down left click over a block to knock it down. :)
#3544 [17:54] <SUPER> -_-
#3545 [17:54] <Bjs300> Down
#3546 [17:54] <Bjs300> Heh
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#3548 [17:55] <Bjs300> At first I had NO idea how to play
#3549 [17:55] <SUPER> Ill try.
#3550 [17:55] <Bjs300> Couldnt move or anything
#3551 [17:55] <SUPER> BRB LADIES =3333
#3552 [17:55] <Bjs300> Try that
#3553 [17:55] <Bjs300> wtf im not a lady
#3554 [17:55] <Bjs300> What about my problem???
#3555 [17:56] <Bjs300> :S
#3556 [17:56] <SUPER> BJS300, YOU ARE A FRE*KING GENIUS
#3557 [17:56] <SUPER> TY :D
#3558 [17:56] <Bjs300> Yw
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#3560 [17:56] <SUPER> So ar eu Thebadshepperd
#3561 [17:57] <bigjoe1015> hey i have a HUGE proble
#3562 [17:57] <Bjs300> Even though TheBad answered b4 me
#3563 [17:57] <SUPER> *are u
#3564 [17:57] <Bjs300> I has a problem now :S
#3565 [17:57] <SUPER> See ya,man.
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#3568 [17:57] <Bjs300> Somebody? Anyone?
#3569 [17:58] <bigjoe1015> well i bought minecraft and dowloaded it and when i get in the launcher and log on and play the screen goes black and i cant do anything
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#3571 [17:58] <Bjs300> same big except i got the game a while ago and was able to play and I use browser :S
#3572 [17:58] <XPrevailX> i need help
#3573 [17:58] <bigjoe1015> i cant play it at all
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#3575 [17:59] <XPrevailX> when i tried to launch minecraft, it brought me to login screen, i typed in my username and pass, i i get error too many failed logins
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#3578 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> XPrevailX - Nothing you can do but wait
#3579 [17:59] <Matthew> hi
#3580 [18:00] <XPrevailX> ok
#3581 [18:00] <Bjs300> Grey- Can you help me?
#3582 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Bjs300 - With?
#3583 [18:00] <XPrevailX> i can log into browser but cant lay in it
#3584 [18:00] <Bjs300> I click play in browser
#3585 [18:00] <Bjs300> On the site
#3586 [18:00] <Bjs300> And then it goes from white screen to black screen to blank screen
#3587 [18:00] <Bjs300> Oh-and grey- Hi
#3588 [18:01] <cyyau> I'm having the same problem as XPevailX :(
#3589 [18:01] <XPrevailX> ^
#3590 [18:01] <cyyau> Some ppl siad changing the password might helpo
#3591 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Nothing you or we can do about "too many failed logins"
#3592 [18:01] <cyyau> help*
#3593 [18:01] <VoxelHead> cyyau: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#3594 [18:01] <XPrevailX> ok
#3595 [18:01] <Kealper> almost aubot, almost
#3596 [18:01] <XPrevailX> i will try that
#3597 [18:01] <Bjs300> I DONT GET THAT SINCE MC DOESNT LOAD at all
#3598 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Bjs300 - Has it worked before?
#3599 [18:02] <Bjs300> Oops
#3600 [18:02] <Bjs300> Yes... remember the prob I had b4?
#3601 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, no?
#3602 [18:02] <Bjs300> Oh well... I have played it before...
#3603 [18:02] <Bjs300> In browser
#3604 [18:02] <XPrevailX> i just changed pass, gonna try now k
#3605 [18:03] <XPrevailX> didnt help :(
#3606 [18:03] <Bjs300> X- try waiting 15 min.
#3607 [18:03] <XPrevailX> ok
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#3609 [18:03] <cyyau> Mine worked
#3610 [18:03] <XPrevailX> that fix urs?
#3611 [18:03] <Bjs300> No....
#3612 [18:03] <cyyau> but had to wait around 10 mins after chaning password
#3613 [18:03] <XPrevailX> ph ok
#3614 [18:03] <XPrevailX> oh
#3615 [18:04] <XPrevailX> ima go eat then :P
#3616 [18:04] <Bjs300> Anyways... Grey?
#3617 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Bjs300 - When did it work before?
#3618 [18:05] <Bjs300> Yesterday... And all the days before except one...
#3619 [18:05] <Bjs300> Then it quit on me today :S
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#3621 [18:05] <Matthew> hi
#3622 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Bjs300 - And what have you done to try and fix it?
#3623 [18:06] <Matthew> anyone need help?
#3624 [18:06] <Bjs300> Well..... lets see... I refreshed...
#3625 [18:06] <Bjs300> I exited the website and reloaded it
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#3627 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Bjs300 - Try this:
#3628 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> ??> Bjs300 win/reinst
#3629 [18:06] <Bjs300> I looked around at .minecraft for any unnessessary folders
#3630 [18:06] <VoxelHead> Bjs300: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3631 [18:06] <VoxelHead> Bjs300: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3632 [18:06] <Matthew> can you guys read this?
#3633 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Matthew - Nope
#3634 [18:07] <Matthew> sorry just testing out an iPod client
#3635 [18:07] <Matthew> you can't read it on some channels
#3636 [18:08] <Bjs300> :S I need to close all Java processers
#3637 [18:08] <Bjs300> Brb!
#3638 [18:08] <Matthew> use task manager
#3639 [18:08] <Thunder7102> alright, exactly how rare is gold and how can I find more? I currently have more diamond than I have gold....yet I need to use more gold. T.T
#3640 [18:09] <lemon-rev> gold and dimond are basicly at the same type of level maybe gold is a little higher but just as rare so good luck
#3641 [18:09] <Thunder7102> maybe a little higher? Also, why is it just as rare when you have to use it for rails while diamond is not required nearly as much. I mine at the bedrock level.
#3642 [18:10] <Thunder7102> As in, I am used to seeing bedrock at my feet.
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#3644 [18:10] <lemon-rev> Thunder7102 thats not the way, you need to go from bedrock about 6 to 10 tiles up for both gold and dimond
#3645 [18:11] <lemon-rev> and more redstone, a crap load of it lol
#3646 [18:11] <Thunder7102> 6-10 tiles up? So I should start mining up the roof? Also, I already find a crapload of restone, lol.
#3647 [18:11] <lemon-rev> Thunder7102 from bedrock, i said
#3648 [18:11] <lemon-rev> lol
#3649 [18:12] <Thunder7102> I mean, currently at the bedrock level, I mien one block above me. Would I have more luck if I started mining up, or shoudl I just create another level/floor above that roof and mine there?
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#3651 [18:12] <Matthew> create another level above that roof
#3652 [18:13] <lemon-rev> Thunder7102 i have done the same thing just make big floors and well mine up but yea about from bedrock to up + 10 levels should be enough to get what you want but no promises
#3653 [18:13] <Thunder7102> Oh, and how often do I encounter dungeons? I found 3 in the same 10 minutes....that was a ton of mob killing. 2 were connected whiel one was a little higher up.
#3654 [18:14] <Thunder7102> i am trying to get enough gold for automated minecarts, but so far, I have found very little (like 9)
#3655 [18:14] <Matthew> they usually ate not that common
#3656 [18:14] <Matthew> are
#3657 [18:14] <lemon-rev> lol i think cavers are more or less the best thing in the game lol just uncovering them is a pain
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#3659 [18:15] <Thunder7102> uncovering them = death 50% of the time. >.> better not have anything worth much.
#3660 [18:15] <lemon-rev> hahahahahha
#3661 [18:15] <Thunder7102> *opens and finds cave....creeper explods. Game Over.
#3662 [18:15] <lemon-rev> not if your wareing armor
#3663 [18:16] <Thunder7102> I only have like 80 iron bars. Trying not to waste them.
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#3665 [18:16] <lemon-rev> lol thunder theres crap loads of iron under where you are so just spend it :P
#3666 [18:17] <Thunder7102> I usually only find iron in caves. Otherwise, it is in small quantities. I just find giant loads of coal, clay, and cobblestone.
#3667 [18:18] <rEvolutionTU> I ALWAYS FIND GIANT LOADS OF REDSTONE WHICH SLOWS ME DOWN ALL DAY
#3668 [18:18] <rEvolutionTU> so sad :(
#3669 [18:19] <lemon-rev> lol iron to dimond pix are best for that
#3670 [18:19] <Thunder7102> meh, redstone is useful if you are any good at circuts. I will learn them eventually. Only had the game for like 2 weeks.
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#3672 [18:19] <Thunder7102> Oh, and is there a biome problem in 1.8? I can never find a snow biome.
#3673 [18:19] <Matthew> hi
#3674 [18:20] <rEvolutionTU> I was so proud when I made my first switch switching rails from like 20blocks away
#3675 [18:20] <rEvolutionTU> :S
#3676 [18:21] <Thunder7102> I am still trying to figure out how to make a door out of pistons
#3677 [18:23] <Thunder7102> I have built a house in a hill, I am growing wheat, sugarcane, and a giant red mushroom I made a room for (have yet to find a brown one anywhere in sight), I have a valley on the other side of th ehill which captures mobs so I may use them, and a mob killer.
#3678 [18:23] <lemon-rev> Thunder7102 you should find red / brown mushrooms either in swamp bioms or caves
#3679 [18:24] <Thunder7102> The problem with the map I loaded recently is that if I get ina boat (I am on a giant island) and go south, there is nothing but water (and the occasional tiny island 5x5 max).
#3680 [18:24] <Thunder7102> It is a giant forest with some hills.
#3681 [18:24] <Thunder7102> A desert is on the other side of the island so i have sand and glass.
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#3683 [18:25] <lemon-rev> Thunder7102 every map will be different you can only keep on walking or fly if you have a server and find it that way theres days and days worth of walking to do or swimming if you want to keep doing so :P
#3684 [18:27] <Thunder7102> I tried by boat, but why would islands be so far apart? I would literally need like 500 bars of iron to produce a big enough rail across that sea and the project time along with gold supply would be insane.
#3685 [18:27] <lemon-rev> Thunder7102 recently notch or jeb the guy working on it
#3686 [18:27] <lemon-rev> made it so the biomes the land masses where huge that is why the water ie seas as they see them are what they are
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#3688 [18:28] <Thunder7102> Well, did they make the snow biome more available? I have been playing for 2 weeks over 5 different maps and I have yet to find a snow biome.
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#3690 [18:29] <anarchymatt> Can anyone help me out? The credit card transaction to buy the game went through, but I never got the confirmation email. It has been over 24hrs since I made the purchase.
#3691 [18:29] <lemon-rev> lol keep walking in one direction youll find it evenually
#3692 [18:30] <Iridium> what's the best alternative to cave mining?
#3693 [18:30] <lemon-rev> anarchymatt you have to wait for mojang to process the payment and find the transaction once that is done your account will be good
#3694 [18:30] <Iridium> i'm getting so sick of caves
#3695 [18:30] <lemon-rev> building
#3696 [18:30] <anarchymatt> alright thanks bro
#3697 [18:30] <JohnEBH> Iridium- Too many items.
#3698 [18:30] <anarchymatt> I'll check in from time to time I guess
#3699 [18:30] <anarchymatt> I was just worried cause I never got the email and the dispute process wanted a receipt lol
#3700 [18:30] <Thunder7102> Iridium, making your own cave below your house. Light it up and no monsters. It is a bit slower though.
#3701 [18:30] <Iridium> JohnEBH: isn't that for single player?
#3702 [18:30] <JohnEBH> anarchymatt- May take up to 3 days in some cases
#3703 [18:30] <JohnEBH> Iridium- /give Iridium
#3704 [18:30] <JohnEBH> Lol
#3705 [18:31] <Iridium> uhh
#3706 [18:31] <anarchymatt> alrighty thanks guys...
#3707 [18:31] <Iridium> try /i <item> <amount>
#3708 [18:31] <Iridium> :P
#3709 [18:31] <Iridium> but still i wanted to do this legit
#3710 [18:31] <JohnEBH> Iridium- I'm not using bukkit/plugins until mc releases... I hate having to look for up to date plugins
#3711 [18:31] <JohnEBH> lol
#3712 [18:31] <Thunder7102> If only mining with TNT was actually worth the hassle. :P All stone is cobblestone so the explosion does not get far.
#3713 [18:32] <Iridium> is that so? that does suck
#3714 [18:32] <Iridium> why would tnt destroy iron and diamond and not stone?
#3715 [18:32] <Thunder7102> Well, it is stone, but once mined, it becomes cobblestone.
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#3717 [18:32] <Iridium> really?
#3718 [18:33] <Iridium> i didn't realise that when you mined stone it turns to cobblestone
#3719 [18:33] <Thunder7102> TNT does destroy stone, just 1 block. My goal is to make massive caves to more easily find diamonds and gold.
#3720 [18:33] <Thunder7102> TNT + stone does not allow that. Maybe a 3x3 room.
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#3722 [18:34] <LovelyX22> Hi all this is minecraft MiRC help ?
#3723 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> No, but it is IRC help
#3724 [18:35] <archalon> any one else getting the done loading error. looked up how to fix but cant find solution...
#3725 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> archalon - Have you done a full reinstall of the minecraft files?
#3726 [18:36] <archalon> not sure. im trying to play in browser, where are the files on my computer?
#3727 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> archalon - All depends on what OS you're on
#3728 [18:36] <archalon> windows xp. i searched all files and folders with minecraft in name,
#3729 [18:37] <LovelyX22> Hi all, my friend got a problem with his minecraft application, When he click on login this is a Fu black screen .. We try to uninstal java, nothing happened . Check out new update on graphic card, nothing hapenned . Please, have you got a solution ?
#3730 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> archalon - Go to your start menu, hit your Run command, there, type in: %appdata%
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#3732 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> archalon - There, you should find a folder named ".minecraft". Go inside and delete everything but the saves folder. Then relaunch minecraft
#3733 [18:38] <archalon> lol thanks it was still entered from last time i had this problem. thanks for the help
#3734 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> LovelyX22 - Is it at all possible for him to come on? It's rather difficult to fix problems through a proxy
#3735 [18:38] <LovelyX22> He is sleeping :x But i know all about his computer ^^'
#3736 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> LovelyX22 - Are you at his computer?
#3737 [18:38] <LovelyX22> He got Os = 7 - 64 bits
#3738 [18:39] <LovelyX22> nop
#3739 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Would be nice if you or himself had access to his computer
#3740 [18:39] <LovelyX22> I ask him for come in =)
#3741 [18:40] <LovelyX22> He donwload MiRC =)
#3742 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> LovelyX22 - Has minecraft worked before on his computer?
#3743 [18:40] <LovelyX22> yep
#3744 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Did he use any mods or HD texture packs?
#3745 [18:41] <LovelyX22> no
#3746 [18:41] <LovelyX22> :x
#3747 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> LovelyX22 - Are you sure about that?
#3748 [18:41] <LovelyX22> Yep
#3749 [18:41] <LovelyX22> He got new minecraft
#3750 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> LovelyX22 - New minecraft?
#3751 [18:41] <LovelyX22> no mod and no texture packs
#3752 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> LovelyX22 - Could you elaborate on what you mean by "new minecraft"?
#3753 [18:41] <LovelyX22> He delete all old Patch
#3754 [18:41] <LovelyX22> and install 1.8
#3755 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> How, exactly?
#3756 [18:42] <LovelyX22> %appdata%
#3757 [18:42] <LovelyX22> .minecraft was delete
#3758 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> The entire folder? Are you sure?
#3759 [18:42] <LovelyX22> and he donwload it again
#3760 [18:42] <LovelyX22> Yep
#3761 [18:42] <LovelyX22> He come in 1 min
#3762 [18:42] <GreyVulpine> When does it black screen?
#3763 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Right after logging in? After downloading files? When going into a world?
#3764 [18:43] <LovelyX22> After click on login after enter his informations
#3765 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Does it download any files to .minecraft?
#3766 [18:43] <LovelyX22> Yep
#3767 [18:43] <LovelyX22> 1st time
#3768 [18:43] <LovelyX22> It was wrtoe
#3769 [18:43] <LovelyX22> wrote
#3770 [18:43] <LovelyX22> download packages
#3771 [18:43] <LovelyX22> and after black screen
#3772 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Alright. I'll need to see a dxdiag from him when he gets on
#3773 [18:44] <LovelyX22> okok
#3774 [18:45] <LovelyX22> wich part of dxdiag want u to see ?
#3775 [18:45] <Iridium> would i be better off making a tree farm and making a wood house, or a cobble generator and a stone house?
#3776 [18:45] <LovelyX22> wood house <3
#3777 [18:45] <Iridium> and then have the cobble generator somewhere else later on?
#3778 [18:45] <Iridium> because i made the mistake of sticking it inside my wood house the last time
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#3782 [18:48] <LovelyX22> @Greyvulpine, my friend is Mrzirlax
#3783 [18:48] <MrZirlax> http://s3.noelshack.com/old/up/sans_titre-6d0e5dc120.png
#3784 [18:48] <LovelyX22> His Dxdiag
#3785 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> j'ai besoin "enregisterer toutes les informations"
#3786 [18:49] <LovelyX22> kk
#3787 [18:49] <archalon> im having the done loading error and i have deleted and reinstaled minecraft neumerous times. if i try to log into the download it tells me cannot connect with minecraft.net
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#3789 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> archalon - Your windows username has an exclaimation mark in it, yes?
#3790 [18:50] <archalon> no
#3791 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> LovelyX22 - Save it on the desktop. Open it up and copy everything inside.
#3792 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> archalon - Are you absolutely sure about that?
#3793 [18:50] <archalon> what windows user name? like my profile name
#3794 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> LovelyX22 - When he does, I need it pasted at pastebin.com, afterwards, give us the URL
#3795 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> archalon - The username you use to log into your machine
#3796 [18:51] <archalon> no it doesn't
#3797 [18:51] <LovelyX22> ok we do it
#3798 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> archalon - Did it used to?
#3799 [18:52] <archalon> i dont believe so. got it from parents in law and they changed stuff. but i dont think so. its always been like "Family computer"
#3800 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> archalon - What windows version was this again?
#3801 [18:52] <archalon> xp home... ithink?
#3802 [18:52] <MrZirlax> hi: http://pastebin.com/AMBZKNVY
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#3804 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> MrZirlax - Could you go to minecraft.net, click on the in-browser client. When the applet starts to load, you should see a white coffee cup icon near your system tray. right click on it and bring up the java console. When minecraft black screens, please copy everything in the console and paste it at www.pastebin.com
#3805 [18:54] <mr_sticky> is this good for minecraft to run?
#3806 [18:55] <mr_sticky> Apple eMac PowerPC G4 1.42 GHz processor 512 MB RAM 80 GB Hard Drive Super Drive – CD/DVD
#3807 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - 20 bucks says no
#3808 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> archalon - Could you go to your start menu, in the run command, type in: %userprofile%
#3809 [18:55] <mr_sticky> uh what?
#3810 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> archalon - Look at the folder path, and double check that there's no ! in the path
#3811 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - No, it's not good enough for minecraft. Minecraft requires at least a gig of ram free for itself. Your system has 512 megs total
#3812 [18:56] <mr_sticky> k thnks
#3813 [18:56] <archalon> lol your good theres four of them...
#3814 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - It's also a mac that's VERY old.. and likely doesn't have a video card that's capable
#3815 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> archalon - That would be why.
#3816 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> archalon - You have two options
#3817 [18:56] <mr_sticky> dang need to find a new cheap comp
#3818 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> archalon - You can either, A) make a new windows user account that doesn't have a ! in it, Or B) use our workaround
#3819 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> ??> archalon !
#3820 [18:57] <VoxelHead> archalon: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file.
#3821 [18:57] <VoxelHead> archalon: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/Install.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as admin.
#3822 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Whoops.. ignore that link
#3823 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Broken, let me find the right one
#3824 [18:57] <Iridium> what happens if i stare at an enderman?
#3825 [18:57] <archalon> i think ill just make a new profile thanks for the help much appreciated!
#3826 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing. G'luck archalon
#3827 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - Nothing. Think of it as Boo from Mario
#3828 [18:58] <Iridium> ahh ok
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#3830 [18:58] <mr_sticky> just to let you know i have no clue what your saying im just practiacally looking for a cheap under 100$ computer that can run minecraaft
#3831 [18:58] <mib_uyh2tl> Wug,You There?
#3832 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - You'll be hard pressed to find a computer like that
#3833 [18:59] <mr_sticky> my funds are like only 150$ max..
#3834 [19:00] <mib_uyh2tl> How do i download custon multi player maps..?
#3835 [19:00] <Scott> You'd be hard pressed to find a crappy computer for $150
#3836 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_uyh2tl - Are you asking where to find them? Or how to install them?
#3837 [19:00] <mib_uyh2tl> Both :p.
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#3839 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_uyh2tl - Can't help you on the former, try google. The latter, you can just put where your MP server is located.
#3840 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> When the MP server is launched, it generates a "world" folder. That's what you want to replace
#3841 [19:01] <MrZirlax> I can not install the java plug in
#3842 [19:02] <mib_guwfii> hey i bought the game and its not downloading right. i have the current version of java and can play it on the browser, but i cant download it
#3843 [19:02] <mr_sticky> is this good (hopefully enough info)
#3844 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> MrZirlax - Could you try uninstalling java completely, and try installing it using an installer from: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html
#3845 [19:02] <mr_sticky> Wireless, DVD/CD-R, 40 G hard drive, leopard operating system, in good condition, charger and good battery.
#3846 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> mr_sticky - Very doubtful. Even if it does, minecraft won't run well
#3847 [19:03] <Scott> sounds like an old mac
#3848 [19:03] <Scott> possibly even powerpc
#3849 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like a crappy mac laptop
#3850 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Extremely old
#3851 [19:03] <mr_sticky> yea.. i didnt think id do
#3852 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> mib_guwfii - Could you elaborate further?
#3853 [19:04] <Scott> You're better off saving your money for a decent PC. :s
#3854 [19:04] <mr_sticky> how much for a decent one
#3855 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> 300-400 is a decent everyday desktop.
#3856 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Nothing fancy.
#3857 [19:04] <Scott> Well, I bought an above average Dell Inspiron for $800ish in February.
#3858 [19:04] <mr_sticky> i can only get like 3 dollars for mowing my lawn cutting the grass by the garden and edgin
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#3860 [19:05] <mr_sticky> so idk how to get that much money in less than a year
#3861 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> I got an el-cheapo desktop from lenovo, with a dedicated vid card for ~320
#3862 [19:05] <Newbie> New to minecraft; trying to figure out how to download mods on my imac for my son. any suggestions where to get help online??
#3863 [19:05] <Scott> ?? mods
#3864 [19:05] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3865 [19:05] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit, for single-player mods, use #risucraft.
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#3867 [19:06] <MrZirlax> I just completely remove java
#3868 [19:06] <MrZirlax> I will now install it again
#3869 [19:06] <almostroot> Newbie: Here's a head start: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/77278-macmod-minecraft-jar-tool/
#3870 [19:07] <Newbie> thanks almostroot and voxelhead
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#3872 [19:10] <MrZirlax> my error is : java(TM) platform SE binary ne répond pas
#3873 [19:10] <tyteen4a03> !paid Feryon
#3874 [19:11] <almostroot> Adfly links to a free hosting provider with ads and a delay make me angry.
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#3876 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> MrZirlax - When you reinstalled java, did you remove all previous versions of java beforehand?
#3877 [19:12] <MrZirlax> yeah
#3878 [19:12] <MrZirlax> but i go sleep, thanks
#3879 [19:13] <LovelyX22> I see his screen
#3880 [19:13] <LovelyX22> And it look like
#3881 [19:13] <LovelyX22> his computer don't understand java is install on his Pc
#3882 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Something's screwy with java then, LovelyX22
#3883 [19:13] <LovelyX22> Because for me, each time i install java or something like that, i need to reboot my pc
#3884 [19:13] <LovelyX22> but him no :x
#3885 [19:14] <LovelyX22> If it is java, how we could fix it ? :x ?
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#3887 [19:14] <Iridium> oh god
#3888 [19:14] <Iridium> i've been exploring a huge chain of caves
#3889 [19:14] <Iridium> follow the always left method
#3890 [19:15] <Iridium> and now i find a ravine
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#3892 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> Iridium: turn left!
#3893 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> LovelyX22 - Uninstall java completely. You can also use a program called JavaRA to remove any traces of java from the system. Then reinstall java fresh
#3894 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> You can find javaRA from http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#3895 [19:16] <LovelyX22> my friend gone to sleep
#3896 [19:16] <LovelyX22> So i take this link and we gone to find it Later :)
#3897 [19:16] <LovelyX22> Cya and Thank you for you help
#3898 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> Bonne chance
#3899 [19:16] <LovelyX22> Merci ;)
#3900 [19:16] <Iridium> you encounter a large ravine with lava and water flowing down the sides, there's a ledge to the left and right and a steep drop straight ahead, what do you do
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#3902 [19:16] <Thrae> LovelyX22: Might be as simple as the Java Path -- https://www.java.com/en/download/help/path.xml
#3903 [19:16] <Thrae> LovelyX22: That's for if JavaRa doesn't work.
#3904 [19:17] <LovelyX22> Ok
#3905 [19:17] <LovelyX22> i'll try it ;)
#3906 [19:17] <LovelyX22> Ty thrae
#3907 [19:17] <LovelyX22> Cya all
#3908 [19:17] <LovelyX22> have good night
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#3914 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> "root hack". Really?
#3915 [19:24] <r00t_h4ck> ...eh. it's a handle. :-p
#3916 [19:24] <almostroot> Iridium: I shoot at the darkness.
#3917 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> FVCO 'handle'.
#3918 [19:24] <Iridium> lol
#3919 [19:24] <Iridium> with what?
#3920 [19:24] <almostroot> There are goes in there.
#3921 [19:24] <r00t_h4ck> FVCO? That's a new one.
#3922 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> Magic Missile, silly.
#3923 [19:24] <almostroot> grues*
#3924 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> ?? FCVO
#3925 [19:25] <VoxelHead> fcvo: For Certain Values Of
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#3927 [19:25] * almostroot is offended by the profane "handle"
#3927 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> ..profane?
#3928 [19:26] * DopeGhoti is now known as 331337_h4x0r
#3928 [19:26] <r00t_h4ck> anyhow... I went to login to my Minecraft account for the first time in probably a month and it informed me that "Login failed: too many login attempts."
#3929 [19:26] <almostroot> Is the first 3 for extra?
#3930 [19:26] <Iridium> any reeason for thee eextra 'e'?
#3931 [19:26] <almostroot> 3extra*
#3932 [19:26] <almostroot> I HATE YOU MAC
#3933 [19:26] <almostroot> Autocorrect. v.v
#3934 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> r00t_h4ck: it's entirely possible that your account may have been compromised in the intervenint quarter
#3935 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> r00t_h4ck: try going to the password reset tool and resetting your account's password.
#3936 [19:27] <almostroot> r00t_h4ck: Also, issues with login server today. MAy work after a bit.
#3937 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> almostroot: LeetSpeak doesn't exactly pride itself on proper spelling or syntax. :p
#3938 [19:27] <r00t_h4ck> okay... my chat handle isn't the same as my in-game name.
#3939 [19:27] <almostroot> DopeGhoti: What if I add a few xXx and kirbies around my nick?
#3940 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> almostroot: all that is, is indication that you can't be bothered to come up with a new name.
#3941 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> xXxMyNameHerexXx is the new MyNameHere437
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#3943 [19:28] <almostroot> New? Pshaw,
#3944 [19:28] <r00t_h4ck> okay... so problems with the login server then?
#3945 [19:29] <Netti> xXxMyNameHere('.')vxXx7
#3946 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> 16:26 <@ almostroot> | r00t_h4ck: Also, issues with login server today. MAy work after a bit.
#3947 [19:29] <Netti> xXxMyNameHere('.')vxXx6 was taken.
#3948 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> !topic -7
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#3950 [19:30] <Iridium> how big are ravines anyway?
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#3952 [19:30] <Morrolan> Rather big.
#3953 [19:30] <Morrolan> Also, 'lo guys
#3954 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> morning, Morrolan
#3955 [19:31] <Morrolan> Yea, not too far from morning, actually.
#3956 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> It's morning on half the planet, just round up.
#3957 [19:31] <Morrolan> Say, four hours.
#3958 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> (:
#3959 [19:31] <mib_h2zasn> what do i press to get into a game
#3960 [19:31] <Netti> Is rule 0 a quote?
#3961 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Netti: and also a rule, yes.
#3962 [19:31] <Morrolan> mib_h2zasn: A multiplayer, or a singleplayer game?
#3963 [19:31] <mib_h2zasn> multiplayer
#3964 [19:31] <Iridium> what's a bigger unit of measurement than a chunk?
#3965 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Iridium: region?
#3966 [19:31] <Iridium> how many chunks make a region?
#3967 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> decachunk?
#3968 [19:32] <mib_h2zasn> what do u mean region
#3969 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> er, a 16x16 grid, I think?
#3970 [19:32] <Morrolan> mib_h2zasn: First you'll have to get yourself the IP of the server you'd like to play on, then launch the game, select "multiplayer", add the IP into the specified field and hit enter or connect
#3971 [19:32] <Netti> I love that subjectiveness to change is a rule. xD
#3972 [19:32] <Morrolan> Actually, is there a serverlist in the vanilla client now?
#3973 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3974 [19:32] <Morrolan> ??> mib_h2zasn smp/servers
#3975 [19:32] <Iridium> oh god no! please stop
#3976 [19:32] <VoxelHead> mib_h2zasn: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3977 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> It isn't pre-populated though
#3978 [19:32] <VoxelHead> mib_h2zasn: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#3979 [19:32] <Iridium> i found another cave attached to this ravine
#3980 [19:33] <Iridium> i just want to go to the surface and build a house
#3981 [19:33] <Morrolan> mib_h2zasn: For a list of servers you could pick any of the lists VoxelHead linked you to.
#3982 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> Iridium: protip: The surface is up!
#3983 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> (and the enemy's gate is down!)
#3984 [19:33] <Iridium> lol, getting to the surface isn't the hard part
#3985 [19:33] <Iridium> it'
#3986 [19:33] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: Ok. :) Have been on Spoutcraft for quite some time now, so kinda lost track on the vanilla client's development.
#3987 [19:34] <Iridium> the hard part is navigating this maze of caves and ravine when i decide to come back down here
#3988 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> Iridium: you don't use torchsign?
#3989 [19:34] <Iridium> no...
#3990 [19:34] <Morrolan> Suggest you get used to some system, like placing torches on your left hand side or similar.
#3991 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> you should (:
#3992 [19:34] <Iridium> i just always go left
#3993 [19:34] <Iridium> block of dead ends
#3994 [19:35] <Morrolan> Blocking intersections which go back helps a lot as well. :)
#3995 [19:35] <Morrolan> Yea
#3996 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> Torchsign: When planting torches, make them "lean" toward the exit. Then you just have to follow the leaning torches out.
#3997 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> (if you need strict illumination, those are vertical)
#3998 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> simple, effective system.
#3999 [19:36] <Iridium> ohgod
#4000 [19:36] <Iridium> i fell into the ravine
#4001 [19:38] <almostroot> Located a stronghold on my server. Going to get everyone to suit up, get drunk, and dungeon delve one night.
#4002 [19:39] <Iridium> aww, i wish i had friends to play my server and get drunk :(
#4003 [19:39] <almostroot> I'
#4004 [19:40] <Iridium> hahaha! i'm not the only person with that problem
#4005 [19:40] <Iridium> the ' key is too close to the enter button
#4006 [19:40] <almostroot> I've recently rebuilt my server. Bukkit that pretends it is vanilla, mainly for dynmap. Built on a stripped-down TinyCor linux, runs completely from emery, and I yanked and modified a lot of the scripts from MineOS.
#4007 [19:41] <almostroot> TinyCore* emery==memory
#4008 [19:41] <Iridium> ah see i got bukkit with only 5 or so mods but i'm running it from my pc
#4009 [19:42] <almostroot> Mine is running on an ESi machine that's part of my work vSphere cluster.
#4010 [19:42] <Iridium> windows 7 intel i5 3.4 GHz processor with radeon 5570 graphics card and 4GB ram
#4011 [19:42] <almostroot> ESXi*
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#4013 [19:42] <Iridium> or maybe it's 2GB
#4014 [19:42] <Iridium> *wooosh*
#4015 [19:43] <Iridium> ^ that's the sound of that going straight over my head :P
#4016 [19:43] <Iridium> (with complimentary hand actions)
#4017 [19:45] <almostroot> The machine it's hosted on has dual quad core xeons with hyper threading enabled, so 16 cores visible, 32GB of memory, 4 15k RPM SAS drives and a NVIDIA Quadro card.
#4018 [19:46] <Iridium> show off :P
#4019 [19:46] <Iridium> how much did that cost you
#4020 [19:46] <almostroot> Iridium: There are 10 of those machines in that vSphere cluster. ;P
#4021 [19:47] <Iridium> :o
#4022 [19:48] <almostroot> Cost us nothing. Industry donation. I love major oil companies.
#4023 [19:48] * almostroot is a sellout for lewt
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#4024 [19:52] <Iridium> yeah well for those much tech i'm sure i'd be too
#4025 [19:52] <almostroot> When I leave here, the head node is coming with me. Domation means it does;t have an inventory tag.
#4026 [19:53] <Iridium> haha! nice one :D
#4027 [19:53] <Iridium> omg
#4028 [19:53] <Iridium> creeper used death from above attack
#4029 [19:53] <Iridium> it was super effective
#4030 [19:54] <almostroot> Iridium: If you're using Bukkit, you can get WorldGuard to block world damage by creepers, but still leave them deadly.
#4031 [19:54] <|Kiichan|> Iridium: ninja creeper!
#4032 [19:55] <Iridium> yeah i think i should
#4033 [19:55] * |Kiichan| thinks worldguard for creepernerfing is a copout.
#4033 [19:55] <Iridium> ohaider |Kiichan| , you changed gender?
#4034 [19:55] * |Kiichan| thinks they should have a longer fuze in smp though
#4034 [19:55] <|Kiichan|> apparently it rained :P
#4035 [19:55] <almostroot> |Kiichan|: Not when it destroys beautiful work when in creative mode.
#4036 [19:56] <|Kiichan|> almostroot: agreed for creative mode... but thats a simple fix as rebuilding maybe a dozen blocks.. which you have infinite of :P
#4037 [19:56] <Iridium> yeah i suppose a longer fuse would be better
#4038 [19:56] * |Kiichan| hates false advertising!
#4038 [19:56] <Iridium> or an effective way to farm arrows
#4039 [19:57] <Iridium> false advertising?
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#4041 [19:57] <almostroot> |Kiichan|: Redstone contraptions are murdered by creepers.
#4042 [19:57] <|Kiichan|> BK has sign for 'FREE WIFI!' only hotspots are 'login with your internet account with our company!'
#4043 [19:57] <|Kiichan|> almostroot: aahhh.... ok point
#4044 [19:58] <herkemeyer> I am looking for help concerning "too many logins" error message and how to fix it.
#4045 [19:58] <|Kiichan|> why is it evertime i come back... win desktop gadgets crashes?
#4046 [19:59] <almostroot> herkemeyer: Wait for a bit, try later.
#4047 [20:00] <herkemeyer> Thanks. I'll give it about a hour and try.
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#4049 [20:01] <Iridium> so, how do i defend my house against creepers?
#4050 [20:02] <almostroot> Iridium: Using Worldguard?
#4051 [20:02] <Iridium> i was kinda thinking legitimately but i'll take a look at that anyway
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#4053 [20:03] <almostroot> Iridium: Lots of light, tall fence around the whole thing, maybe a lava or pit trap at the entrance.
#4054 [20:03] <csd412> hey guys my mine craft will not download
#4055 [20:04] <almostroot> Iridium: With WorldGuard, Server folder/plugins/WorldGuard/config.yml Find "mobs:" and change "block-creeper-block-damage:" to true, save and exit, /reload
#4056 [20:05] <almostroot> csd412: Elaborate?
#4057 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> csd412: try downloadig Mojang's Minecraft instead of yours?
#4058 [20:07] <csd412> what web sight
#4059 [20:07] <|Kiichan|> csd412: Get client. Run Client. If stalls on download, disable antivirus and firewall and try again. If still stalls, update java. If STILL stalls, update video drivers.
#4060 [20:07] <|Kiichan|> !client
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#4065 [20:10] <Matthew> hi
#4066 [20:10] <|Kiichan|> Oh, hello~!
#4067 [20:10] <Ben001> hey im having problems installing minecraft
#4068 [20:10] <csd412> same here
#4069 [20:11] <Ben001> i bought it and i have the newest java version and still wont work
#4070 [20:11] <|Kiichan|> csd412: you just ignored us, didnt you.
#4071 [20:11] <|Kiichan|> Ben001: what, exactly, doesnt work? details, man, details! :P
#4072 [20:11] <Ben001> i set run time paramaters of java to 512 to allow for files larger than 250kb to run
#4073 [20:11] <Ben001> i made sure my path led right to the java file
#4074 [20:12] <csd412> mo i got it but its likei does not want to download
#4075 [20:12] <Ben001> still wont install
#4076 [20:12] <Matthew> what wont work?
#4077 [20:12] <Ben001> i have a pc and tried to install it for pc but nuffin
#4078 [20:12] <Matthew> like what happens?
#4079 [20:12] <Ben001> i save it to desktop then click on it and nothing happens
#4080 [20:12] <Matthew> what happens when you run it?
#4081 [20:13] <|Kiichan|> Matthew: prefix your messages with who your talkign to please? :P very helpful.
#4082 [20:13] <Matthew> like a blackscreen or what?
#4083 [20:13] <Ben001> it shows that its downloading but then nothing
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#4085 [20:13] <Ben001> not even a black screen
#4086 [20:13] <|Kiichan|> Ben001: is the icon a sheet of paper or a grass block?
#4087 [20:13] <csd412> i long in but it wont load i did vires checks an all of that but i wont load
#4088 [20:13] <Ben001> a grass block
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#4090 [20:13] <|Kiichan|> oh... :/
#4091 [20:13] <Ben001> yeah..
#4092 [20:14] <Ben001> any advice?
#4093 [20:14] * |Kiichan| hates when people says' it does nothing!' when it obviously logs in and starts the download
#4093 [20:14] <Matthew> ok, sorry iliichannl i am just on my ipod so it is harder
#4094 [20:14] <|Kiichan|> Ben001: does it stall at lwjgl?
#4095 [20:14] <Ben001> ok well it starts the download but then proceedes to do nothing
#4096 [20:14] <|Kiichan|> Matthew: ok.. nevermind me then :P
#4097 [20:14] <Ben001> what is lwjgl?
#4098 [20:15] <|Kiichan|> Ben001: try disabling your firewall and antivirus for a minute and running it again.
#4099 [20:15] <Ben001> ok
#4100 [20:15] <csd412> when t says to log in i put in my right acount butit just freezes evry time
#4101 [20:15] <Thunder7102> anyone know how to make a silverfish trap?
#4102 [20:15] <|Kiichan|> Ben001: LWJGL = java library that minecraft works off of.
#4103 [20:15] <Thunder7102> without mods?
#4104 [20:15] <Matthew> you dont play minecraft in bulkit
#4105 [20:15] <|Kiichan|> Thunder7102: lava. lots of lava
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#4107 [20:16] <Matthew> csd412: you ply in the client
#4108 [20:16] <Ben001> oh and one more thing, the java in-browser just becomes a white page
#4109 [20:16] <Thunder7102> Well I mean that I heard there was a block that creates them so if people mine it, they run the risk of silverfish. Sounds useful in SMP
#4110 [20:16] <Ben001> er the minecraft in-browser i mean
#4111 [20:16] <applekid> no account help
#4112 [20:16] <csd412> no i cant play anything
#4113 [20:16] <applekid> does anyone know how one might contact mojang for account assistance?
#4114 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> ??> applekid account
#4115 [20:16] <VoxelHead> applekid: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#4116 [20:16] <|Kiichan|> Thunder7102: theres a block that LOOKS like plain stone, but always spawns silverfish.
#4117 [20:16] <VoxelHead> applekid: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#4118 [20:17] <Thunder7102> Kiichan, can I make it without mods?
#4119 [20:17] <applekid> or, is anyone else receiving the 'too many failed logins' message - seems like someone may have tried to brute my account and locked it out
#4120 [20:17] <Matthew> ben001: have you tried to re-install java, or try it with an older version of java?
#4121 [20:17] <applekid> voxel, I tried that. Thanks for the suggestion.
#4122 [20:17] <VoxelHead> cheers
#4123 [20:17] <|Kiichan|> o.o;
#4124 [20:17] <Matthew> ben001: an do you have any mods intalled in your minecraft.jar?
#4125 [20:17] <csd412> ya me it wont let me log in
#4126 [20:17] * |Kiichan| bites VoxelHead
#4126 [20:17] <Thunder7102> anti-grief block.
#4127 [20:18] <applekid> take care
#4128 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> !topic add It seems Mollstam broke the login code again.
#4129 [20:18] <|Kiichan|> lol
#4130 [20:18] <Ben001> i have no mods on it
#4131 [20:18] <Ben001> just got it recently
#4132 [20:18] <Matthew> voxelhead: your an operator here? nice
#4133 [20:18] <|Kiichan|> ?? bot
#4134 [20:19] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, sometimes a sock-puppet, but never an independant helper.
#4135 [20:19] <Thunder7102> I heard that if you use stone to create the brick stone, it looks like stronghold brick, but does it actually spawn silverfish when mined like in strongholds?
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#4137 [20:19] <|Kiichan|> Thunder7102: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Silverfish
#4138 [20:20] <|Kiichan|> specificly the 'spawn when mining block 97' part
#4139 [20:20] <|Kiichan|> you cant MAKE it. it has to be spawned or placed via mcedit (or inv editor)
#4140 [20:21] <|Kiichan|> though.. apparently.. you can get a silk-touch enchantment to mine them safely :/
#4141 [20:21] <Thunder7102> Oh...so I can make the block, but it will not spawn silverfish. So much for the ultra-anti grief.
#4142 [20:21] <gorzek> Can anyone here tell me what I can do to get rid of the "too many failed logins" error? Yes, I own the game, and have a legit account at minecraft.net!
#4143 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 8
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#4145 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 7
#4146 [20:22] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 7 = It seems Mollstam broke the login code again. ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti | Mon Oct 17 17:17:24 MST 2011 ]
#4147 [20:22] <gorzek> D'oh! Thank you. :)
#4148 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> gorzek: keep on tryin', or wait 'till mollstam wakes up
#4149 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> (:
#4150 [20:22] <Matthew> Ok, back on my pc
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#4152 [20:23] <Em_Dash> Hello, is there anyone who can help me here? I am having a sound related problem in minecraft.
#4153 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Em_Dash: care to be slightly more specific?
#4154 [20:24] <Morrolan> If you just hear gibberish as background music - that's the normal MC soundtrack. :P
#4155 [20:24] <Matthew> Em_dash: What would that be?
#4156 [20:24] <Em_Dash> Well basically, I have no sounds, at all
#4157 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> Morrolan: especially in the Nether (:
#4158 [20:24] <Em_Dash> I tried reinstalling the .minecraft files over and over, all of them, restarting my computer, checking updates for my drivers
#4159 [20:24] <Matthew> Is your volume up?
#4160 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> Em_Dash: Are your speakers plugged in and turned on?
#4161 [20:24] <Em_Dash> Yes
#4162 [20:24] <Morrolan> Yea, or the ambient sounds in caves. ^^
#4163 [20:25] <Matthew> Em_dash: Did you turn up sound and music
#4164 [20:25] <Em_Dash> All volume settings in my computer are fine
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#4166 [20:25] <Matthew> in the ingame menu
#4167 [20:25] <Em_Dash> tests have shown that other programs work fine with sounds
#4168 [20:25] <DopeGhoti> Em_Dash: do other Java apps' sounds work?
#4169 [20:25] <Morrolan> Em_Dash: Could you check the resources folder in the minecraft folder, and check whether the sound files are in there?
#4170 [20:25] <Em_Dash> Ok, hold on
#4171 [20:25] <Morrolan> Actually I'm not even sure if it'd start without these files, but worth a shot.
#4172 [20:26] <xxDFBxx> I have a question about the credit card system, how come you cant have 3 accounts?
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#4175 [20:26] <dasdasd> how do i get rid of ghosts
#4176 [20:26] <dasdasd> in the chat
#4177 [20:26] <Morrolan> xxDFBxx: Minecraft accounts? Uh, what exactly does it say when you try to buy a third one?
#4178 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> dasdasd: ..what?
#4179 [20:26] <Em_Dash> ok
#4180 [20:26] <Em_Dash> Reinstalling the entire .minecraft
#4181 [20:26] <Em_Dash> again..
#4182 [20:26] <Em_Dash> just to be sure
#4183 [20:26] <dasdasd> My nick is matthew, but i lagged out
#4184 [20:27] <xxDFBxx> it says that the transaction wasn't allowed
#4185 [20:27] <dasdasd> Now i want to kick it so i can join it
#4186 [20:27] <dasdasd> i mean change my nick
#4187 [20:27] <Em_Dash> also, for some reason it takes a good 5 times longer to load the menu screen when the sounds break
#4188 [20:27] <Morrolan> dasdasd: Oh, you'll have to wait for it to time out, that'll take two minutes or so.
#4189 [20:27] <Em_Dash> Yeah just installed brand new .minecraft and no sounds
#4190 [20:27] <dasdasd> ok
#4191 [20:27] <Em_Dash> What does F3 + S do?
#4192 [20:27] <Em_Dash> It worked the first time this happeneed
#4193 [20:27] <Morrolan> dasdasd: Unless you registerd the nick, then you can use "/ns ghost <nickname> <password>"
#4194 [20:27] <Em_Dash> yesterday
#4195 [20:28] <dasdasd> I did
#4196 [20:28] <Morrolan> Em_Dash: That might be the shortcut to reload the sound engine. :/
#4197 [20:28] <dasdasd> Thanks
#4198 [20:28] <Matthew> There
#4199 [20:28] <Em_Dash> ok one moment
#4200 [20:28] <Matthew> Identified
#4201 [20:28] <Matthew> Thank you Morrolan.
#4202 [20:28] <Morrolan> Sure thing, Matthew.
#4203 [20:28] <xxDFBxx> Morrolan, it says transaction not allowed
#4204 [20:28] <Em_Dash> in resources there are 4 folders
#4205 [20:29] <Morrolan> xxDFBxx: Hmm, that shouldn't be related to the number of accounts in any way. Maybe there are issues with the payment system at the moment. :(
#4206 [20:29] <Em_Dash> music newmusic newsound and souns
#4207 [20:29] <Em_Dash> sound
#4208 [20:29] <Morrolan> :/*
#4209 [20:29] <Morrolan> Em_Dash: And in these folders, are there any files?
#4210 [20:29] <Ryladine> Is anyone waiting for assistance that is not currently recieving any?
#4211 [20:29] <Em_Dash> music has three
#4212 [20:29] <Em_Dash> newmusic has quite a few
#4213 [20:29] <Em_Dash> newsound has folders brb
#4214 [20:29] <Morrolan> Em_Dash: Yea, that's not the issue then, they're there it seems. :/
#4215 [20:30] <Matthew> Em_Dash: On your in-game menu, is the sound and music options at 100%?
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#4218 [20:30] <Em_Dash> yes
#4219 [20:30] <Matthew> Em_Dash: are you sure you can play other music>
#4220 [20:30] <xxDFBxx> hmmm, im not really sure then
#4221 [20:31] <frozenpandaman> Hi! So right now I'm unable to log into the Minecraft client using my account... when I click "Login" with my username with any password, incorrect or correct, it says "Too many failed logins" and won't let me log in. However, I'm able to log in with my friends' accounts on my computer. My friends aren't able to log in with my account on their computers, either. This has been occurring for about an hour... it started
#4222 [20:31] <frozenpandaman> (coincidence, I hope) right after I tried logging into my 1.8.1 server while I was using the 1.7.3 minecraft.jar.
#4223 [20:31] <Matthew> like pandora or youtube
#4224 [20:31] <frozenpandaman> (sorry for the block of text...)
#4225 [20:31] <Morrolan> !topic info 7
#4226 [20:31] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 7 = It seems Mollstam broke the login code again. ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti | Mon Oct 17 17:17:24 MST 2011 ]
#4227 [20:31] <Morrolan> frozenpandaman: You'll have to wait for Mollstam to fix this, I fear.
#4228 [20:31] <Em_Dash> yes Im sure
#4229 [20:31] <gorzek> Em_Dash: Does your bin/natives folder contain OpenAL32.dll and/or OpenAL64.dll?
#4230 [20:31] <frozenpandaman> Morrolan: Do you have any idea what the problem is?
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#4232 [20:32] <Em_Dash> lets see
#4233 [20:32] <Em_Dash> both
#4234 [20:32] <xxDFBxx> oh and another thing, when does the 1.9 patch come out??
#4235 [20:32] <Matthew> frozenpandaman: Mollstam altered the login system
#4236 [20:32] <Morrolan> frozenpandaman: I've got no clue, just saw that lots of people had this, and stumbled across this part someone put in the topic. :D
#4237 [20:32] <Morrolan> I wasn't that active in the last few days.
#4238 [20:32] <Matthew> Frozenpandaman: Just look at the tweets by Mollstam. He edited the login system today
#4239 [20:33] <gorzek> You might try copying those OpenAL DLLs to your System32 folder as well. That worked for me on one system.
#4240 [20:33] <Ryladine> frozenpandaman: You have tried logging in and failed too many times, either that or someone is trying to hack your account. Give it some time and the account should become unlocked and you will be able to login again most likely.
#4241 [20:34] <frozenpandaman> Morrolan: Interesting… well thanks for the information! Glad to see it's not just me experiencing this issue… I didn't try logging in at all today except once before it gave me the error, so I'm guessing it's either the new login system or someone's attempting to log into my account. :P
#4242 [20:35] <frozenpandaman> Morrolan: Have any idea it'll take for the system to unblock me, if that's the issue? Just curious.
#4243 [20:35] <gorzek> frozenpandaman: The login issue is the same thing that brought me here!
#4244 [20:35] <frozenpandaman> gorzek: How long have you been having this issue? Hopefully it'll resolve itself by tomorrow, or some time soon.
#4245 [20:36] <Morrolan> Well, if it's just someone trying to bruteforce your account then it will unblock you in an hour or so. If it's the error Mollstam introduced you'll have to wait for him to fix it.
#4246 [20:36] <Matthew> Lol
#4247 [20:36] <Matthew> I almost said that same exact thing
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#4249 [20:36] <frozenpandaman> I've been waiting about an hour so I'm guessing it's Mollstam's new login system. Thanks for telling me about that, good to know.
#4250 [20:36] <Matthes> Why do I keep disconnecting?
#4251 [20:37] <gorzek> frozenpandaman: About 3 hours ago I was able to login. Then I tried to login just a little bit ago and got the "too many failed logins" message. And it keeps happening. I had no failed logins before, so I think this is Mollstam's new code breaking it, as the topic says. :)
#4252 [20:37] <Em_Dash> Could it be all my modding that broke minecraft sounds?
#4253 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> yes
#4254 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> it definitely could
#4255 [20:38] <clarjon1> Em_Dash: back up your current minecraft.jar, get fresh minecraft.jar, if original vanilla .jar has sounds working, then yes, it's the fault of your mods.
#4256 [20:39] * mib_vhg5zi [mib_vhg5zi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4257 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> #minecrafthelp troubleshooting step one: Remove all the mods.
#4258 [20:40] <Em_Dash> well duh
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#4260 [20:40] <Em_Dash> I reinstalled it at least a hundred times
#4261 [20:40] <Em_Dash> using it from scratch
#4262 [20:40] <Em_Dash> e.o
#4263 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> ??> Em_Dash win/profile
#4264 [20:40] <Em_Dash> still no sounds
#4265 [20:40] <VoxelHead> Em_Dash: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#4266 [20:40] <VoxelHead> Em_Dash: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#4267 [20:41] <Em_Dash> oh dear god thats bad
#4268 [20:41] <Em_Dash> because im on the administrator account ^^;
#4269 [20:41] <Em_Dash> plus I dont have enough data space on my computer so I would have to clean up a bit x.x
#4270 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> you don't have a few hundred K to create a new user profile?
#4271 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> perhaps that's the problem.
#4272 [20:41] <Em_Dash> well
#4273 [20:42] <Em_Dash> comp says I have 2.78 gigs
#4274 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> that'll be plenty
#4275 [20:42] <Em_Dash> I dont believe comp tho.. <.<
#4276 [20:42] <Em_Dash> but ok
#4277 [20:42] <Matthew> `````Mollstam update!````` Mollstam went to bed about four hours ago. He has his SSH Session open Next to him, and he said "So talk to you soon (hopefully not!)" This means that if it is a problem with the login system, it will not be fixed soon
#4278 [20:42] <Em_Dash> i guess.. I just dont want to cap it
#4279 [20:42] <Em_Dash> that would be really bad
#4280 [20:42] <Em_Dash> im not good with data management ^.^;
#4281 [20:42] <Em_Dash> let me free some space
#4282 [20:42] <Em_Dash> i've been meaninig to use a new account anyway
#4283 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> No one is talking about capping anything; just recommending a diagnostic test (:
#4284 [20:43] <Em_Dash> I know but if I make a new account Ill have to stick with it cause I know I shouldnt use the administrator account
#4285 [20:43] <Em_Dash> makes me too vulnerable on windows 7
#4286 [20:44] <Em_Dash> all the security comes from things possibly trying to access crap without your permissions so it asks you constantly if yo uare sure you want to do things
#4287 [20:44] <frozenpandaman> oh god
#4288 [20:44] <Em_Dash> i went to the administrator account to stop all that but it was a bad decision
#4289 [20:44] <Em_Dash> i believe i may have a virus
#4290 [20:44] <Em_Dash> x.x
#4291 [20:44] <Em_Dash> which is why my data space keeps.. getting higher
#4292 [20:44] <Em_Dash> im sure its nothing malwarebytes cant fix
#4293 [20:46] <frozenpandaman> OH HEY COOL i just logged in
#4294 [20:46] <frozenpandaman> adter trying like 50 times
#4295 [20:46] <Em_Dash> \o/
#4296 [20:46] <frozenpandaman> *after :P
#4297 [20:46] <Em_Dash> eureka!
#4298 [20:46] <Em_Dash> congrats
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#4300 [20:47] <frozenpandaman> well hopefully it'll keep working. thanks, guys. :)
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#4302 [20:49] <xxDFBxx> ok since im in here WTF is skrill??
#4303 [20:49] * kermie [kermie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4304 [20:49] <|Kiichan|> moneybookers?
#4305 [20:49] <Morrolan> Uhm, skrill? Never heard of, xxDFBxx
#4306 [20:49] <kermie> hello
#4307 [20:49] <xxDFBxx> ya moneybookers
#4308 [20:49] <xxDFBxx> what is it
#4309 [20:49] <Morrolan> 'lo kermie
#4310 [20:50] <Morrolan> xxDFBxx: Ah, they're a payment provider, like PayPal.
#4311 [20:50] <|Kiichan|> xxDFBxx: a payment processor. you pay them and they pass the money to mojang.
#4312 [20:50] <Morrolan> Yea, processor is a better word.
#4313 [20:50] <xxDFBxx> thats the thing that keeps telling me that i cant make the payment to another account
#4314 [20:50] <kermie> hello?
#4315 [20:51] <Morrolan> Yes, kermie? ;)
#4316 [20:51] <kermie> i Love you guys :D
#4317 [20:51] <Matthew> :D
#4318 [20:51] <Morrolan> xxDFBxx: Are you using a prepaid credit card?
#4319 [20:51] <Matthew> <3 You too! Kermie!
#4320 [20:51] <Iridium> kermie: well somebody has to
#4321 [20:51] <xxDFBxx> I dont know, its my friends, hes letting me use it for my bro so he can join him and I
#4322 [20:52] <Iridium> how low do i want the ceiling of my tree farm?
#4323 [20:52] <xxDFBxx> he says hes paid it off
#4324 [20:52] * roblikescake [roblikescake@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4325 [20:52] <roblikescake> anyone on?
#4326 [20:52] <Morrolan> Iridium: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tree#Sapling_growth might provide some infomration about how high it has to be.
#4327 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> xxDFBxx prepaid
#4328 [20:53] <VoxelHead> xxDFBxx: (prepaid) Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#4329 [20:53] <Iridium> thanks Morrolan
#4330 [20:53] <xxDFBxx> i'll ask him
#4331 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> Iridium: short answer: ~6-7 blocks of clearance from the block in which the sapling is placed.
#4332 [20:53] <roblikescake> Anyone here know C# ? Need help with coding for mc
#4333 [20:53] <clarjon1> ...
#4334 [20:53] <clarjon1> c SHARP
#4335 [20:53] <clarjon1> wtf
#4336 [20:53] <Morrolan> roblikescake: You might be better in #mcdevs on freenode, if it's about dev for Minecraft
#4337 [20:54] <Morrolan> clarjon1: Is that really necessary?
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#4339 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> con't you mean C♯?
#4340 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> er, don't even
#4341 [20:54] <roblikescake> and how would i get there morrolan?
#4342 [20:54] <roblikescake> am very new to irc, sorry
#4343 [20:54] <xxDFBxx> its not a prepaid creditcard
#4344 [20:54] <DopeGhoti> roblikescake: irc://irc.freenode.net/mcdevs
#4345 [20:54] <clarjon1> Seeing how one of the features that MC touts is cross platform compatability, creating a mod or wrapper that runs on only one platform seems a little... well, a lot off to me, Morrolan.
#4346 [20:54] <Guest8206> what should i do if i try to connect to a server but it says connection error
#4347 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> Guest8206: try another server?
#4348 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> (is this a trick question?)
#4349 [20:55] <Guest8206> what nevermind it says communication error
#4350 [20:56] <kermie> One question for all minecraft experts..
#4351 [20:56] <Morrolan> clarjon1: Obviously it might not be the best decision if you really want cross-platform compability, but that isn't everyone's topmost goal.
#4352 [20:56] <kermie> When is the 360 version of minecraft will come out?
#4353 [20:56] <Morrolan> clarjon1: Hell, maybe he just wants to create a project/exercise for himself anyway. :)
#4354 [20:56] <xxDFBxx> DopeGhoti, its not a prepaid
#4355 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> kermie: "When it's done."
#4356 [20:56] <kermie> Any dates?
#4357 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> xxDFBxx: in that case, have the owner of the card call the phone number on the back of the card and ask why they're declining the international transaction.
#4358 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> kermie: No.
#4359 [20:57] <kermie> Ohh, ok
#4360 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> kermie: pardon my terseness; I'm at work (:
#4361 [20:57] <Guest8206> what should i do if it says communication error
#4362 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> Guest8206: try another server?
#4363 [20:57] <kermie> DopeGhoti: Its allright
#4364 [20:57] <clarjon1> I suppose.. but still, C#...
#4365 [20:58] <Guest8206> um no the server name and address are both right
#4366 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> clarjon1: look on the bright side- they're not coding in .asp or something
#4367 [20:58] <xxDFBxx> k, so, for trying to get the aether mod to work, why do i keep getting a black screen when i've downloaded all the right things its told me to download
#4368 [20:58] <clarjon1> DopeGhoti: *shudder*
#4369 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> clarjon1: exactly.
#4370 [20:58] <clarjon1> Guest8206: Try a different server to see if it's a connection issue on your side, or on theirs.
#4371 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> ??> xxDFBxx mods
#4372 [20:58] <VoxelHead> xxDFBxx: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#4373 [20:58] <VoxelHead> xxDFBxx: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#4374 [20:58] <Guest8206> k
#4375 [20:59] <roblikescake> Is there a way to get mods onto Minecraft Classic?
#4376 [20:59] <clarjon1> xxDFBxx: meta-inf directory is my best guess, if not, not a clue.
#4377 [21:01] <|Kiichan|> um the mods would have to have been MADE for classic.
#4378 [21:02] * Jorre [Jorre@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4379 [21:03] <Jorre> Hello again!
#4380 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> g'morning.
#4381 [21:03] <Jorre> Time for another night og searching for my house!
#4382 [21:03] <Jorre> of* even
#4383 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: make a map!
#4384 [21:04] * mitch1224 [mitch1224@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4385 [21:04] <Jorre> As in in game or on paper in real lifew?
#4386 [21:04] <Jorre> God my tiping sucks tonight.
#4387 [21:05] <Morrolan> ingame is easier, real life is more satisfying once done. ;)
#4388 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> typing? (: And I was thinking in-game, but you could also make a browseable one
#4389 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> e. g. http://minecraft.hfbgaming.com
#4390 [21:05] <mitch1224> Hey guys, havent had many problems in a while so might as well say hi. Wanted to tell you two things:
#4391 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> morning, mitch1224 (:
#4392 [21:05] <mitch1224> First, I got Java to work on my mac so I dont have any more 3 FPS crap. :D Which is great.
#4393 [21:06] <Morrolan> Somehow it's strange that herpes lost connection. :S
#4394 [21:06] <Morrolan> Surely there's a pun in there somewhere.
#4395 [21:06] <mitch1224> Second, now that I know Java, I want to start making small, simple, mods. But here: The first thing I'll make is something which will demod a world.
#4396 [21:07] <mitch1224> Demodding it by turning any block unrecognized by Minecraft into stone for blocks, sticks for items.
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#4398 [21:07] <Jorre> I found my house last night after hours of seaching.
#4399 [21:07] <mitch1224> Itll be hard but If i can do that then It'll save lots of time for people right?
#4400 [21:07] <Jorre> Then I put on my sexy iron armour.
#4401 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> that actually might be a useful tool, in fact
#4402 [21:07] <Morrolan> mitch1224: Reinventing the fridge, hmm? I think there's already a tool like that. :)
#4403 [21:07] <|Kiichan|> Jorre: and got eatern by wolves.
#4404 [21:08] <Jorre> and plummited down a hole I didn't see >.>
#4405 [21:08] <Jorre> Close :P
#4406 [21:08] <mitch1224> There is? Never heard of it. Ill look into it and see. If there isnt then I will make one. If there is, might as well do it anyways.
#4407 [21:08] <mitch1224> Boredom + coding skill = bad things.
#4408 [21:09] * blaphmat [blaphmat@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4409 [21:09] <Morrolan> Sure, every project helps, even if it's just additional exercise. And if it's better than the existing one - great.
#4410 [21:09] <Iridium> should i farm birch or oak?
#4411 [21:09] * mib_w6uen5 [mib_w6uen5@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4412 [21:10] <Morrolan> Also, that sentence has no proper use of subject-verb relations, but I'm sure you'll figure out what I mean.
#4413 [21:10] <Iridium> birch is easier but oak is more efficient right?
#4414 [21:10] * |Kiichan| likes pine. its nice and dark
#4414 [21:10] <blaphmat> i bought the game
#4415 [21:10] <Morrolan> Iridium: Well, there shouldn't be any difference apart from the visual one.
#4416 [21:10] <|Kiichan|> blaphmat: *CHEERS! WOO!*
#4417 [21:10] <blaphmat> but i cant log in
#4418 [21:10] <mitch1224> Actually, birch saplings require a bigger area to grow.
#4419 [21:10] <Iridium> Morrolan: there is, birch and pine don't grow branches but require more space
#4420 [21:11] <Morrolan> Iridium: Ah, right, that's true.
#4421 [21:11] <blaphmat> i need help
#4422 [21:11] <|Kiichan|> blaphmat: mc username?
#4423 [21:11] <Morrolan> Why can't you log in, blaphmat? What does it say?
#4424 [21:11] <blaphmat> if
#4425 [21:11] <mitch1224> Well, I can't find any program like it on Google, so I'll go ahead and make one. I'll keep you updated.
#4426 [21:12] <mitch1224> Bye.
#4427 [21:12] <blaphmat> it says fiald to log in but i bought the game to days ago
#4428 [21:13] <|Kiichan|> blaphmat: 'failed login' means username or password is incorrect
#4429 [21:13] <blaphmat> i need hell
#4430 [21:13] * BlackGyver_ [BlackGyver_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4431 [21:13] <|Kiichan|> retype them. login to the website and change the password if necessary
#4432 [21:14] <kermie> hrmm
#4433 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> blaphmat: sin more.
#4434 [21:14] <blaphmat> thanks you guys rock!!!!!!
#4435 [21:14] * |Kiichan| air guitars!
#4435 [21:14] <|Kiichan|> Excelent!
#4436 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> Awesome!
#4437 [21:15] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#4437 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> Now where's the phonebooth?
#4438 [21:15] <|Kiichan|> XD i think i left it will Bill.
#4439 [21:16] * Rufus_ [Rufus_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4440 [21:16] <blaphmat> do you have to log in to play on multiplayer?
#4441 [21:16] <Morrolan> Yes you do.
#4442 [21:16] * Rufus_ gives |Kiichan| a remote phonebooth starter.
#4442 [21:16] <blaphmat> fuck
#4443 [21:16] <blaphmat> soeey
#4444 [21:16] <Morrolan> Why, if you bought the game that shouldn't be any problem, hmm? ;)
#4445 [21:16] <|Kiichan|> blaphmat: aubot woudl have autokicked you for that :P
#4446 [21:17] <Morrolan> D:
#4447 [21:17] <Morrolan> Where's aubot?
#4448 [21:17] <blaphmat> oups i nent soeey
#4449 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> !seen aubot
#4450 [21:17] <GreyBot> I last saw aubot (bot@c-68-61-69-137.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 1hr 9mins 26secs ago, talking in #minecrafthelp. They were saying: You can download the client by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe ) (For Linux: http://Minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar ) (For OSX: http://Minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip )
#4451 [21:17] <Morrolan> Oh, he IS, here, just without +o
#4452 [21:17] <kermie> Kealper hates me..
#4453 [21:18] <Morrolan> Maybe he wouldn't if you weren't to ding him randomly. :D
#4454 [21:18] <blaphmat> i did buy the game one hour ago
#4455 [21:18] <clarjon1> only one hour?
#4456 [21:18] <kermie> :D
#4457 [21:18] <kermie> maybe lol
#4458 [21:18] <blaphmat> yep maby 2
#4459 [21:19] <blaphmat> yes
#4460 [21:19] * GreyVulpine stabs |Kiichan|
#4460 [21:19] <kermie> He perma ban me yesterday :(
#4461 [21:19] * |Kiichan| cries
#4461 [21:19] <Morrolan> blaphmat: Well, wasn't your issue solved up there? Wasn't it the misspelled password?
#4462 [21:20] <blaphmat> what
#4463 [21:20] * jonathanbloom [jonathanbloom@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4464 [21:21] <Morrolan> blaphmat: Well, you said that it said "failed to login", someone answered that you should check your password, and after a bit you wrote "you guys rock". So, sounds as if you're able to log in now?
#4465 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> kermie: if you were permabanned, why are you back?
#4466 [21:21] <blaphmat> i did not spell the password wrong
#4467 [21:22] <kermie> DopeGhoti: well they didn't see any wrong doing when I was banned so I was allowed again
#4468 [21:22] * DopeGhoti shrugs.
#4468 [21:22] <Morrolan> ??< index
#4469 [21:22] <blaphmat> no i did not log in i like you guys
#4470 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> Is there something with which #minecrafthelp can assist you, kermie?
#4471 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> blaphmat payment
#4472 [21:22] <VoxelHead> blaphmat: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#4473 [21:22] <VoxelHead> blaphmat: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#4474 [21:23] <Jorre> Stupid house!
#4475 [21:23] <Jorre> Come back to me!
#4476 [21:23] <kermie> I just want to know when the Minecraft version will be out. Cuz me and my boyfriend were exited for it. And bought kinect ofcource
#4477 [21:23] <blaphmat> it has only been 2or3 hours
#4478 [21:24] <kermie> Xbox 360 minecraft i mean
#4479 [21:24] <Morrolan> kermie: There is no date for the Xbobx version as of yet.
#4480 [21:25] <kermie> Lol, Xbobx?
#4481 [21:25] <Morrolan> Remove an "x" and it suddendly makes sense.
#4482 [21:25] <Morrolan> a "b", I meant
#4483 [21:25] <Morrolan> Ah, I'm getting too tired.
#4484 [21:26] <blaphmat> i am going to try 2 log in
#4485 [21:26] <kermie> I thought you said... add "o" and remove the "x"
#4486 [21:27] * wolfy214 [wolfy214@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4487 [21:28] <Morrolan> Hah. ;)
#4488 [21:28] <wolfy214> hey can i get some help with whats going on with minecraft purchase
#4489 [21:28] <blaphmat> it did not work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#4490 [21:28] <Morrolan> If you'd be a bit more concrete - yes, wolfy214
#4491 [21:28] <Morrolan> specific*
#4492 [21:29] <|Kiichan|> woo! *crashed spacechem again*
#4493 [21:29] <blaphmat> please help
#4494 [21:29] <Morrolan> blaphmat: What did it say, when you tried to log in?
#4495 [21:29] <wolfy214> i bought the game and been trying to log on and it keeps saying im not prem
#4496 [21:29] <wolfy214> sorry im a slow typer
#4497 [21:29] <Morrolan> wolfy214: When did you buy the game? And from what site did you buy it?
#4498 [21:29] <blaphmat> i dont no!!!!!!!!
#4499 [21:30] <wolfy214> i got it from the main site
#4500 [21:30] <Iridium> why do i see spruce redwood and pine all used to describe the same type of tree?
#4501 [21:30] <Morrolan> wolfy214: From www.minecraft.net? That's fine then. And when did you buy it?
#4502 [21:31] <|Kiichan|> Iridium: because theres only 3 kinds of trees :P
#4503 [21:31] <blaphmat> please help
#4504 [21:31] <Iridium> oak, birch, spruce, pine, redwood
#4505 [21:31] <wolfy214> oh and i got it like 50 something mins ago
#4506 [21:31] <Morrolan> wolfy214: Ah, it can take up to two days for your payment to get processed.
#4507 [21:31] <Morrolan> ??> wolfy214 payment
#4508 [21:31] <VoxelHead> wolfy214: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#4509 [21:31] <VoxelHead> wolfy214: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#4510 [21:31] <Morrolan> blaphmat: Well, what exactly does it say when you try to log in then?
#4511 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> ??+ releases|Information on current and forthcoming releases can be found here: http://is.gd/V7siwh
#4512 [21:33] <blaphmat> i am going to hack you
#4513 [21:33] <blaphmat> just kid
#4514 [21:33] <wolfy214> ok. i read a few other post about it from people having the same problem i bought it with a mastercard. would that still get trought?
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#4516 [21:33] <Feliciana> hi
#4517 [21:33] <Morrolan> blaphmat: If you don't give me any information - don't bother to ask for help, really.
#4518 [21:33] <Morrolan> 'lo Feliciana
#4519 [21:34] <DopeGhoti> wolfy214: have the monies been debited from the Mastercard account?
#4520 [21:34] <Feliciana> in creative do i have to take items one by one ? how can i take a stack of 64 ?
#4521 [21:34] <Morrolan> Feliciana: Uh, press shift while clicking, that oughta do the trick. However, blocks are infinite anyway.
#4522 [21:34] <Feliciana> oh its infinite ^^
#4523 [21:35] <wolfy214> whats that?
#4524 [21:35] <Morrolan> wolfy214: Has the card got charged the money?
#4525 [21:35] <DopeGhoti> wolfy214: without limit
#4526 [21:35] <Morrolan> Oh, if you wanted an explanation for this - yea.
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#4528 [21:35] <blaphmat> sorry, how long does it take to prosses ny accont
#4529 [21:35] <Tyger> ello all.
#4530 [21:35] <DopeGhoti> blaphmat: it depends. once again..
#4531 [21:35] <DopeGhoti> ??> blaphmat payment
#4532 [21:36] <VoxelHead> blaphmat: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#4533 [21:36] <Morrolan> blaphmat: Look, you still didn't say what it tells you when you try to log in, so it's kinda hard to tell you whether you've got the same issue.
#4534 [21:36] <VoxelHead> blaphmat: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#4535 [21:36] <DopeGhoti> Tyger: g'morning
#4536 [21:36] <wolfy214> idk i used my dads card and we arnt that great with purchises on the net
#4537 [21:36] <Morrolan> If you get the "account not premium" one then up to two days, blaphmat.
#4538 [21:36] <Jorre> Doesn't using a bed give you a new random spawn point?
#4539 [21:37] <DopeGhoti> Jorre: no, it sets the spawn point to the location of the bed. It's not random.
#4540 [21:38] <Morrolan> I'm off for tonight, stayed up far too long. :S
#4541 [21:38] <blaphmat> when i log in it sais log in faild i have cheked ny name and password and i did not get them wrong please help
#4542 [21:39] <kermie> hrmmm
#4543 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 7
#4544 [21:39] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 7 = It seems Mollstam broke the login code again. ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti | Mon Oct 17 17:17:24 MST 2011 ]
#4545 [21:39] <blaphmat> hello???????????
#4546 [21:40] <Jorre> If I break the bed will that reset the spawn point again.
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#4548 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> Jorre: if the bed is broken, you will then spawn upon death at the original spawn location
#4549 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> (i. e. the location to which the compass points)
#4550 [21:41] <blaphmat> bye fouck you
#4551 [21:41] <Jorre> Oh hamburgers...
#4552 [21:43] <kermie> blaphmat: Nice exit
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#4556 [21:53] <munky> ok, so my sevrer has been working fine and now it wont work, WHY!? and also when i search for %appdata% in the search bar nothing comes up
#4557 [21:54] <munky> !check
#4558 [21:54] <munky> hello?
#4559 [21:58] * Jackson413 [Jackson413@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4560 [21:58] <Jackson413> Kealper, you there mate?
#4561 [21:58] <kermie> hrmmm
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#4563 [22:04] * Kermie [Kermie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4564 [22:04] <Kermie> Hrmmm
#4565 [22:04] * bellows [bellows@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4566 [22:04] <Kermie> hello
#4567 [22:04] <bellows> hello
#4568 [22:04] * KriticalDude [KriticalDude@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4569 [22:04] <Kermie> hi
#4570 [22:04] <KriticalDude> Hello?
#4571 [22:04] <Kermie> Hi!
#4572 [22:04] <KriticalDude> I need technical support!
#4573 [22:05] <Kermie> Whats wrong?
#4574 [22:05] <KriticalDude> I came home from work today and I'm unable to login my minecraft
#4575 [22:05] <KriticalDude> Error says "Too many logins"
#4576 [22:06] <Kermie> Ohh, did you login too much times that day?
#4577 [22:06] <KriticalDude> No
#4578 [22:06] <Kermie> Hrmm, are you the only one in the house?
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#4580 [22:06] <KriticalDude> Nope
#4581 [22:06] <KriticalDude> A brother and parents
#4582 [22:07] <slimer> why would %appdata% all of a sudden not show up anymor when i search for it????
#4583 [22:07] <bellows> hmm, try logging into the minecraft.net website. if you can get in then you should try again with the game. If this problem occurs I can only suggest reseting your password or just try at a different time.
#4584 [22:07] <bellows> and %appdata% is hidden
#4585 [22:07] <KriticalDude> Im able to on the website.
#4586 [22:07] <KriticalDude> I couldnt delete my .minecraft either
#4587 [22:07] <bellows> don't delete your .minecraft
#4588 [22:07] <slimer> yea, but i used to search for it in the search bar and it came up with roaming and now it does not
#4589 [22:07] <KriticalDude> Oh
#4590 [22:07] <Kermie> Well, if you logged in to the website, you should be able to play then
#4591 [22:07] <|Kiichan|> the login was broken for some people. mollstam will fix it when he gets up :P
#4592 [22:08] <KriticalDude> I already tried resetting my pass.
#4593 [22:08] <KriticalDude> Ohhh i see
#4594 [22:08] <bellows> ya, I can't log in, just says "unable to connect to minecraft.net"
#4595 [22:08] <|Kiichan|> !topic info 7
#4596 [22:08] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 7 = It seems Mollstam broke the login code again. ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti | Mon Oct 17 17:17:24 MST 2011 ]
#4597 [22:08] <KriticalDude> For some reason Im able to login now
#4598 [22:08] <KriticalDude> After taking out my .minecraft though
#4599 [22:08] <Kermie> Lol, coincidence?
#4600 [22:08] <bellows> hmmm
#4601 [22:08] <KriticalDude> I reupdated
#4602 [22:09] <Kermie> cool
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#4605 [22:10] <munky> I NEED HELP! why would my server randomly stop working!? ive gotton a clean server and it still wont work!??
#4606 [22:10] <KriticalDude> Oh nevermind. After update it came with the same error
#4607 [22:10] <munky> !check
#4608 [22:11] <munky> !check 96.48.44.121
#4609 [22:11] <Kermie> :)
#4610 [22:11] <munky> help?
#4611 [22:11] <VoxelHead> munky: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#4612 [22:12] <Kermie> VoxelHead works for mojang
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#4614 [22:12] <Kermie> Hello again
#4615 [22:13] <munky> why would my server randomly stop working?
#4616 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> munky - Define, "stop working"?
#4617 [22:13] <munky> connection refused connect
#4618 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> munky - Running this off a home connection?
#4619 [22:13] <blaphmat> Hey, no servers are working for me when I try to get on them in Classic.
#4620 [22:13] <munky> yes
#4621 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> munky - Port forwarded?
#4622 [22:13] <munky> yes
#4623 [22:13] <Kermie> Classic was fun
#4624 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> munky - Rechecked that your port forwarding settings have not changed?
#4625 [22:14] <munky> nope...
#4626 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> munky - Double check
#4627 [22:14] <munky> urg...ill be cack
#4628 [22:14] <munky> back
#4629 [22:14] <blaphmat> no servers are working for me when I try to get on them in Classic.
#4630 [22:15] * Jesse [Jesse@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4631 [22:15] <blaphmat> hellooooo?
#4632 [22:15] <Jesse> Wug: u there?
#4633 [22:15] <Kermie> Minecraft reminds me of Fortress Craft lol
#4634 [22:15] <blaphmat> yup
#4635 [22:15] <blaphmat> No servers are working for me in classic mode
#4636 [22:16] <Jesse> anyone knows how to fix minecraft problems?
#4637 [22:16] <Kermie> VoxelHead works for Mojang
#4638 [22:16] <Wug> ??
#4639 [22:16] <Jesse> Wug
#4640 [22:16] <Wug> Kermie: nope
#4641 [22:16] <blaphmat> Dude, nobody's helping meee...
#4642 [22:16] <Jesse> hey wug its me
#4643 [22:16] <Kermie> Yeah, he knows everything
#4644 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Classic servers work for me
#4645 [22:17] * lumines [lumines@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4646 [22:17] <Wug> Jesse: who are you
#4647 [22:17] * [z] [[z]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4648 [22:17] <Wug> wait
#4649 [22:17] <Kermie> He could be Notch forall i know
#4650 [22:17] <Wug> Kermie: well we all know hes not
#4651 [22:17] <Jesse> remember when i couldnt start minecraft
#4652 [22:17] <Wug> Jesse: I've helped hundreds of people
#4653 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> That describes like 99% of the people that come here
#4654 [22:17] <Jesse> Wug when u took over my computer
#4655 [22:17] <Wug> you don't have a nickname I remember
#4656 [22:18] <Wug> Jesse: I've done that hundreds of times
#4657 [22:18] <Jesse> lol
#4658 [22:18] <|Kiichan|> Kermie: notch is regged with nickserv :P doube he'd be in here hanging out incognito
#4659 [22:18] <Wug> teamviewer has tried to suspent my account for commercial activity 4 seperate times
#4660 [22:18] <|Kiichan|> rofl
#4661 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Hah
#4662 [22:18] <Jesse> well Wug i need ur help can u help me
#4663 [22:18] <Jesse> please
#4664 [22:18] <Wug> what's wrong with it
#4665 [22:18] <Wug> if its not minecraft related I can't help
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#4667 [22:19] <Kermie> |Kiichan|: Exactly.. So theres a chance that VoxelHead IS Notch right?
#4668 [22:19] <Jesse> when im at the start menu of minecraft and i try to put up the sound and music it freezes
#4669 [22:19] <Wug> Kermie: no
#4670 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Kermie - Nope
#4671 [22:19] <|Kiichan|> not unles DopeGhoti can tinker inside notch's skull :P
#4672 [22:19] <helpme> Classic won't work for me, can anyone help?
#4673 [22:19] <Kermie> Yes! Don't lie!!
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#4675 [22:19] <Jesse> Wug when im at the start menu of minecraft and i try to put up the sound and music it freezes
#4676 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Kermie - Voxelhead is not Notch
#4677 [22:19] <|Kiichan|> VoxelHead: courtmartial Kermie
#4678 [22:19] <Wug> Jesse: I have no idea why
#4679 [22:19] <Kermie> PROVe IT
#4680 [22:19] <Jesse> awww
#4681 [22:19] <|Kiichan|> :/
#4682 [22:20] <Wug> |Kiichan|: bmotion is offf
#4683 [22:20] <Jesse> So there is nothing i can do?
#4684 [22:20] <Wug> Kermie: /whois voxelhead
#4685 [22:20] <Wug> then /whowas notch
#4686 [22:20] <Wug> not the same host
#4687 [22:20] <helpme> can yall even see my text?
#4688 [22:20] <Wug> Jesse: theres probably something but I have no idea what
#4689 [22:20] <Jesse> Wug so there is nothing i can do?
#4690 [22:20] <Jesse> oh ok
#4691 [22:20] <Wug> helpme: yes but theres very little we can do for classic
#4692 [22:20] <Kermie> Yeah, Notch could just go to his mate's house thn use VoxelHead right?
#4693 [22:20] <helpme> why?
#4694 [22:20] <Wug> what error is it giving
#4695 [22:21] <Wug> Kermie: you are being a fool
#4696 [22:21] <Kermie> Theres about 0.0001% chance
#4697 [22:21] <VoxelHead> I am not Notch Kermie
#4698 [22:21] <|Kiichan|> Kermie: no. stop hoping. notch is too busy to be here :P
#4699 [22:21] <helpme> Won't let me connect to any server
#4700 [22:21] <Jesse> Wug: no error it just says minecraft doesnt respond
#4701 [22:21] <Wug> Jesse: is java up to date
#4702 [22:21] <Kermie> AHHHH NOTCH!!! DON't PUNISH ME WITH YOUR AWESOMENESS!!!
#4703 [22:21] <Jesse> yep
#4704 [22:21] * Wug kicked Kermie from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ermie :Kermie)
#4705 [22:21] <helpme> yup, just downloaded it
#4706 [22:21] <VoxelHead> Again, I'm not Notch.
#4707 [22:21] <Jesse> u downloaded it for me Wug
#4708 [22:21] <Wug> ahh, I did
#4709 [22:21] <VoxelHead> pfft
#4710 [22:22] <Wug> what was your nickname yesterdat
#4711 [22:22] <Jesse> Wug: yes
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#4713 [22:22] <helpme> how do I update Java?
#4714 [22:22] <Jesse> Wug: my nickname is always Jesse
#4715 [22:23] <Wug> I dont remember a jesse in recent history. perhaps I'm just tired
#4716 [22:23] * Kermie [Kermie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4717 [22:23] <Wug> :tv > Jesse
#4718 [22:23] <WugBot> Jesse: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#4719 [22:23] <WugBot> Jesse: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /pm user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#4720 [22:23] <Wug> I'll see if theres anything obviously wrong
#4721 [22:23] <Kermie> Bals!
#4722 [22:23] <|Kiichan|> ...
#4723 [22:23] <Wug> heh
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#4725 [22:24] <helpme> ......
#4726 [22:24] <Jesse> Wug: ok
#4727 [22:24] <Wug> Kermie: do you actually need something
#4728 [22:24] <helpme> +z?
#4729 [22:24] <|Kiichan|> whats +z?
#4730 [22:24] <Wug> op moderated
#4731 [22:24] <|Kiichan|> ah
#4732 [22:24] <Wug> I can see his messages
#4733 [22:24] <helpme> this makes no sense....
#4734 [22:24] <Kermie> Im just here to hang out with the cool guys
#4735 [22:24] <Wug> Kermie: this isnt a channel for hanging out
#4736 [22:24] <Kermie> Sorry
#4737 [22:24] * GreyVulpine /parts
#4737 [22:24] <Wug> go to #lobby if thats what youre looking for
#4738 [22:25] <|Kiichan|> Kermie: your hanging out in the callcenter. the cool guys are in #minecraft
#4739 [22:25] <Kermie> ok bye!
#4740 [22:25] <helpme> Well i'm looking for help.
#4741 [22:25] <|Kiichan|> :P
#4742 [22:25] <Wug> helpme: I asked you if you were getting an error message, you havent responded
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#4744 [22:25] <helpme> oh, my bad, didnt see it
#4745 [22:25] <helpme> an error message on what?
#4746 [22:26] <munky> hey, i forget how to get my local ip from the control panel
#4747 [22:26] <munky> comand promp*
#4748 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> munky - ipconfig
#4749 [22:26] <munky> ok
#4750 [22:27] <Kermie> hrmmm
#4751 [22:29] <munky> yep, all the port forward stuff is the same :) still dont work
#4752 [22:29] <munky> !check
#4753 [22:29] <Jackson413> anyone seen kealper aroumd
#4754 [22:29] <Jackson413> ?
#4755 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> firewall/security software?
#4756 [22:30] <Iridium> is it possible to make an automatic tree farm in smp?
#4757 [22:30] <munky> i have all the java stuff alowed through firewall
#4758 [22:30] <Iridium> the only ones i've found either aren't automatic or rely on single player mods
#4759 [22:31] <munky> i have AVG FREE 2012 and just the firewall my comp came with
#4760 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> munky - Are you able to connect to localhost on the same machine?
#4761 [22:32] <munky> greyvulpine yes
#4762 [22:33] <Wug> |Kiichan|: you cant quiet in ##wugbot, its channel specific
#4763 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> munky - Did you change anything in server.properties, namely server-ip?
#4764 [22:33] <munky> nope
#4765 [22:33] <|Kiichan|> Wug: i know. was testing my commands were sending right
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#4767 [22:33] <munky> i have a COMPLETELY clean server thing now anyway
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#4769 [22:33] <snyper> hello
#4770 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> munky - You're absolutely sure that your port forwarding's correct, that your server's internal IP address hasn't changed?
#4771 [22:34] <Kermie> hrmmm
#4772 [22:34] <munky> um, how do i know if it changd?
#4773 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> ipconfig?
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#4775 [22:35] <bellows> avg is probably the cause of dumb stuff
#4776 [22:35] <munky> what number do i look for
#4777 [22:35] <bellows> anyways
#4778 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Um, ipv4?
#4779 [22:35] <munky> yes im POSITIVE thats the same
#4780 [22:35] <bellows> anyone know what the problem is for when you try and log in and all that shows up is the can't connect to minecraft.net and it says play offline, or try again. I don't know how to solve this one
#4781 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> bellows - Has it worked before?
#4782 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> munky - If it's not your port forwarding, then it's your security software
#4783 [22:37] <munky> well there may have been an update to avg i guess?
#4784 [22:37] <Kermie> hrmm
#4785 [22:37] <munky> !!! DUDE!!!
#4786 [22:37] <munky> my internal IP did change
#4787 [22:37] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#4787 [22:38] <munky> it was ....2 b4 and now its .....5!
#4788 [22:38] <munky> why!?
#4789 [22:38] <|Kiichan|> munky: assign your computer a static ip. either via the router or via the computer itself
#4790 [22:38] <Kermie> NO WAY!!!
#4791 [22:38] * |Kiichan| wraps Kermie's head in ducttape
#4791 [22:38] <munky> um
#4792 [22:38] <bellows> Vulpine - yes, it has worked before
#4793 [22:38] <snyper> hate to just jump in and ask but i was wondering if there is any way to stop minecraft from crashing constantly?
#4794 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> bellows - Can you go to https://login.minecraft.net ? Should say "bad login" if you can
#4795 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> snyper - Got any error reports?
#4796 [22:38] <snyper> yup
#4797 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> snyper - Would help us determine why it's crashing. Can you paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it?
#4798 [22:39] <snyper> sure
#4799 [22:39] <bellows> yup, it says bad login
#4800 [22:39] <munky> do i have to assign a static ip?
#4801 [22:39] <Kermie> sorry wug
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#4803 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> munky - You can, or run the risk of your router assigning a different IP address next time you reboot your computer
#4804 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> And thus, have to go through all this again
#4805 [22:40] <Kermie> what are you doing to me wug?
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#4807 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> bellows - System time and date correct?
#4808 [22:40] <bellows> Vulpine - I do believe so, yes
#4809 [22:40] <Wug> Kermie: do you need help with something
#4810 [22:40] <munky> I LOVE YOU GREYVULPINE IT WORKS NOW!!!! what does a statci ip do?
#4811 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> bellows - Running any security sfotware?
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#4813 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> munky - Basically negates the risk of your router assigning a different ip address to your server. You tell your router that your server has a static, nonchanging ip address
#4814 [22:41] <bellows> Vulpine - Yes, just the standard firewall and I'm also running AVG. I know avg likes to block stuff rarely that I try to do, but I also tried on my laptop with no avg and it still won't log in, so I know it's not avg
#4815 [22:41] <munky> oky thankyou cya
#4816 [22:41] <bellows> Vulpine - I also tried allowing minecraft as an exception through the firewall, etc. etc.
#4817 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> bellows - Hmm.. login server's up for me.
#4818 [22:42] <Scott> I just successfully logged in as well.
#4819 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Is this on a home connection, or public?
#4820 [22:42] <|Kiichan|> Kermie: that was me telling WugBot to mute you. ~.~
#4821 [22:42] <bellows> Vulpine - Yes, I know, It's kind of frusterating how all my friends can get on but I can't. And no, I Brought my laptop to a friend's place, so I know it's not my connection/router.
#4822 [22:43] <Kermie> ohh ok. i love you "keychain". if thats your name
#4823 [22:43] <|Kiichan|> ~.~
#4824 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> bellows - Hmm. Windows, I take it?
#4825 [22:44] <|Kiichan|> RIGHT first half pronunciation.. drop the I from chain and your close enough.
#4826 [22:44] <bellows> Vulpine - yes, I'm running windows vista.
#4827 [22:44] <Kermie> Key?
#4828 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> bellows - Most common causes of this are, system time and date are off, your security software is blocking it, your windows username has a ! mark in it, or you're running some sort of third-party firewall/filtering software
#4829 [22:45] <bellows> Vulpine - Yes, I'm checking into all those options and so far none of them are the issue.
#4830 [22:45] * |Kiichan| used to go by Key... then started using Kii.
#4830 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Could you attempt to go to %appdata%/.minecraft and move that folder out, delete the launcher, and redownload it from minecraft.net/download?
#4831 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> That way, we can be sure you've got fresh files
#4832 [22:46] <snyper> sry bout all these up front
#4833 [22:46] <snyper> http://pastebin.com/2eTMkGpu
#4834 [22:46] <snyper> http://pastebin.com/d5EPQXac
#4835 [22:46] <snyper> http://pastebin.com/6VQYe0RA
#4836 [22:46] <snyper> http://pastebin.com/JzRXG4wa
#4837 [22:46] <snyper> http://pastebin.com/UdgYS0gU
#4838 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Good.. god
#4839 [22:46] <Jackson413> lmfao
#4840 [22:46] * GreyVulpine stabs Wug and his +z
#4840 [22:46] <snyper> :P
#4841 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> You.. only needed to give us one
#4842 [22:47] <|Kiichan|> um..... i feel you shoudl have pastebinned all your pastebin links...
#4843 [22:47] <Kermie> Kii = Key that I use to lock my dog in his dog house?
#4844 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> snyper - Your nvidia video drivers are at fault.
#4845 [22:47] * |Kiichan| wraps Kermie's head in ducttape
#4845 [22:47] <snyper> fair enough
#4846 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Please update them from nvidia.com
#4847 [22:47] <snyper> shitty
#4848 [22:47] <snyper> these drivers work best
#4849 [22:48] <snyper> just not with minecraft
#4850 [22:48] <bellows> Vulpine - so just delete the whole .minecraft folder and re instal it?
#4851 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> If you wish, you can delete it. I only suggest moving it out as to have a back up.
#4852 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Also to delete the launcher and redownload it
#4853 [22:49] <bellows> don't worry, I'm doing this on my laptop, so I'm not worried there
#4854 [22:49] <bellows> launcher as in.. shortcut? or an actual launcher?
#4855 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> The launcher, the minecraft.exe that you run
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#4857 [22:51] <bellows> alright. done. now just to redownload it. so, go onto minecraft.net and download the beta?
#4858 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#4859 [22:51] <bellows> alright, testing it now on teh laptop
#4860 [22:51] <snyper> anyways thanks, hope all is well once these drivers are applied, and thanks again :)
#4861 [22:52] <bassrocks> Uhm I have a support question, perhaps I could get a bit of help?
#4862 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Only if you elaborate on it.
#4863 [22:52] <bassrocks> Ok
#4864 [22:53] <snyper> and be sure to include ASL (((JOKES)))
#4865 [22:53] <bassrocks> I am trying to load modloader, and am using windows7 and 7zip. But I can't "drag and drop" files into the minecraft jar folder. I keep getting an error notice from 7zip saying that the operation isn't supported
#4866 [22:53] <bassrocks> Is there something I can change to fix it or?
#4867 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Are you doing a drag and drop from a zipped mod to the .jar?
#4868 [22:54] <snyper> use winrar
#4869 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> If so, try unzipping the mod's files to a folder before dragging it into minecraft.jar
#4870 [22:55] <bassrocks> Yes I am
#4871 [22:55] <bellows> Vulpine - I think I may have firgured it out. Now, Before when I trie dto log in the main screen was the oldschool format. When I redownloaded it it had the new screen with the minecraft news filter on it. Whenever I tried to open the one on my desktop it always opened in the old screen version without the news feed. Is this an indication of the problem?
#4872 [22:55] <bassrocks> Ok lemme try right quick
#4873 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Yup, that would be it bellows
#4874 [22:56] <Wug> dont help them break things
#4875 [22:56] <bellows> Ah, so every time I tried to log in I was logging in with the oldschool format. Now if I manage to delete the minecraft.exe and redownload it onto my desktop I'm sure if I use the new .exe that I'll get the news feed version rather than the early early beta version.
#4876 [22:56] <bellows> alright, trying this out now
#4877 [22:58] <Jackson413> great just great
#4878 [22:58] <bassrocks> Ok, so I've extracted the files, and then move them one by one into the mc jar?
#4879 [22:58] <Jackson413> i looked up amputation on wikipedia (in norwegian)
#4880 [22:58] <Jackson413> it said, this article is a stud
#4881 [22:58] <Jackson413> stub**
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#4883 [23:00] <bellows> ok, I managed to make it work :)
#4884 [23:00] <bassrocks> Nope, still says operation is not supported
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#4886 [23:06] <bassrocks> So suggestions/
#4887 [23:06] <Wug> bassrocks: winrar
#4888 [23:07] <bassrocks> Is it free, I hope?
#4889 [23:08] <bassrocks> Should I use 32bit or 64?
#4890 [23:10] <Wug> pick your favorite
#4891 [23:10] <Wug> and its nagware
#4892 [23:10] <Wug> you can uninstall it later if you dont want it
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#4895 [23:14] <Iridium> nagware?
#4896 [23:15] <Iridium> oh nm i know what you mean
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#4898 [23:20] <bassrocks> does the normal jar file have an aaa.class file?
#4899 [23:21] <|Kiichan|> the class files are obfuscated and change each version
#4900 [23:21] <|Kiichan|> so its possible theres an aaa.class.
#4901 [23:21] <bassrocks> -_- Crap
#4902 [23:22] <|Kiichan|> bassrocks: beyond its existance, #mcp-modding would be the place to go asking what each class file does
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#4904 [23:22] <Jesse> Wug u there
#4905 [23:22] * mr_trousers [mr_trousers@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4906 [23:22] <Wug> yep
#4907 [23:23] <Wug> Jesse: open teamviewer again
#4908 [23:23] <Jesse> ok
#4909 [23:23] <bassrocks> No no I don't need to know what each class does. Just if it transferred or not
#4910 [23:23] <bassrocks> ! C:\Users\alton\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\minecraft.jar: The archive is corrupt
#4911 [23:23] <Jesse> um give me the site again wug
#4912 [23:23] <Wug> :tv
#4913 [23:23] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#4914 [23:23] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /pm user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#4915 [23:23] <bassrocks> That was the error message I got. Thats a bad thing
#4916 [23:23] <Wug> bassrocks: force update
#4917 [23:23] <bassrocks> Huh?
#4918 [23:24] <Wug> force update minecraft
#4919 [23:24] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> when logging in, check force update
#4920 [23:24] <Wug> redownloads jars and everything
#4921 [23:24] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> im going to bed now. goodnight.
#4922 [23:24] <Wug> we don't help with mods here, why am I helping
#4923 [23:24] <bassrocks> k hang on a sex
#4924 [23:24] <emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE> the c key is so close to the x
#4925 [23:24] <Wug> |Kiichan|: there is an aaa
#4926 [23:24] <Wug> its amazing, minecraft has more than 26 + 26^2 classes
#4927 [23:25] <Wug> thats 600 something iirc
#4928 [23:25] <Iridium> 702
#4929 [23:25] <|Kiichan|> Wug: 702
#4930 [23:25] <|Kiichan|> pbbbbbbbbbbbbt
#4931 [23:25] <Iridium> i win :D
#4932 [23:25] <|Kiichan|> Wug: 702
#4933 [23:25] <|Kiichan|> erm.
#4934 [23:25] <|Kiichan|> $calc(26^2+26)
#4935 [23:25] <|Kiichan|> :P
#4936 [23:26] * |Kiichan| typed out the calc function
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#4937 [23:26] <bassrocks> Delete the Meta-inf file right?
#4938 [23:26] <Iridium> yup
#4939 [23:26] <|Kiichan|> or rename it
#4940 [23:26] * |Kiichan| renames them now.
#4940 [23:26] <Iridium> why?
#4941 [23:26] <Wug> the minecraft client has 814 classes
#4942 [23:27] * |Kiichan| shrugs
#4942 [23:27] <Wug> it also has some others that come as part of libraries that mojang did not write
#4943 [23:27] * Infj [Infj@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4944 [23:27] <|Kiichan|> incase i need it back?
#4945 [23:27] <Jess> Wug
#4946 [23:27] <Wug> the minecraft server has 552 classes
#4947 [23:27] <Jess> its jesse
#4948 [23:27] <Iridium> what exactly is that folder anyway?
#4949 [23:27] <Wug> Jess: ok
#4950 [23:27] <Wug> :tv N>> jess
#4951 [23:27] * emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE [emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4952 [23:28] <Jess> i will pm u the team viewer
#4953 [23:28] <Infj> i need help if anyone can tell me whats wrong when i log in into my minecraft i get the try again or play offline buttons all the time
#4954 [23:28] <Iridium> to denounce the evils of truth and love...
#4955 [23:28] <Iridium> :P i'll not recite the whole team rocket thing
#4956 [23:28] <MineCrak> The evils of Truth?
#4957 [23:28] <Wug> TO EXTEND OUR REACH TO THE STARS ABOVE
#4958 [23:29] <Infj> ok so no one is going to help?
#4959 [23:29] * emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE [emanfman|zZz|PINGMEYOUDIE@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#4960 [23:29] <Iridium> ....must resist temptation
#4961 [23:29] <MineCrak> don't
#4962 [23:29] <|Kiichan|> dont resist! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqZjiSCRbyM
#4963 [23:29] <Iridium> actually it's not that long when i think about it
#4964 [23:29] <Infj> ok this place fails
#4965 [23:29] <MineCrak> that's what she said, right?
#4966 [23:30] <MineCrak> ;)
#4967 [23:30] <Iridium> wow, is that from some new version
#4968 [23:30] <Iridium> what're they onto 13 seasons or something now?
#4969 [23:30] <|Kiichan|> no. AMV Hell :P
#4970 [23:30] <|Kiichan|> video was from Soul Eater
#4971 [23:31] <Iridium> obviously i didn't mean the video :P
#4972 [23:31] <|Kiichan|> and seriously.. theres more pokemon music than rolling stones <.<
#4973 [23:31] * |Kiichan| asumes.
#4973 [23:31] <Iridium> lol
#4974 [23:31] <MineCrak> Strange, I thought I was speaking to Iridium
#4975 [23:32] <Iridium> no need to fight, there's plenty of me to go around
#4976 [23:32] <bassrocks> Ok it looks like it worked this time lemme login and find out!
#4977 [23:32] <Iridium> actually there probs isn't since i'm slighty underweight but you know
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#4979 [23:33] <Iridium> so i decided to go with pine for my tree farm
#4980 [23:33] * |Kiichan| woots!
#4980 [23:33] <Wug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kJ9wp-mog8
#4981 [23:33] <Iridium> is there any ways of improving it?
#4982 [23:34] <Wug> this is |Kiichan|'s fault
#4983 [23:34] <Iridium> hmm... do i know this one?
#4984 [23:34] <MineCrak> Set it on fire
#4985 [23:34] <|Kiichan|> mwahah
#4986 [23:34] <Wug> lol 150
#4987 [23:34] <Iridium> yeah i do
#4988 [23:34] <Iridium> got it on my hard drive :D
#4989 [23:34] <Wug> this song is so dated
#4990 [23:35] <Iridium> the only things i've found that might actually help are a water stream to collect the saplings
#4991 [23:36] <Iridium> and a detector light for when they're fully grown
#4992 [23:36] <Iridium> but right now both of those seem more hastle than they're wroth
#4993 [23:36] <Iridium> worth*
#4994 [23:36] <Iridium> hassle?
#4995 [23:37] <Iridium> ah yeah that's right
#4996 [23:37] <|Kiichan|> Iridium: build a dirt ring over the waterflows then grow the trees with bonemeal
#4997 [23:37] <Iridium> water?
#4998 [23:37] <Iridium> water speeds it up?
#4999 [23:37] <|Kiichan|> no. :P
#5000 [23:37] <Iridium> also i don't have any bonemeal
#5001 [23:37] <|Kiichan|> to collect saplings
#5002 [23:37] <Iridium> ohh
#5003 [23:39] * |Kiichan| has a semi-auto farm on topman's server :P
#5003 [23:39] <Iridium> semi-auto?
#5004 [23:39] <|Kiichan|> i need to trigger collection :P
#5005 [23:39] <bassrocks> Ah crap I think I need a fresh download *sighs*
#5006 [23:39] <Iridium> how does that work?
#5007 [23:39] <MineCrak> Hello
#5008 [23:39] <|Kiichan|> and usually replant
#5009 [23:40] <|Kiichan|> Iridium: not with trees :P
#5010 [23:40] <Iridium> ohhh right
#5011 [23:40] <Iridium> rofl
#5012 [23:40] <MineCrak> Interesting
#5013 [23:40] <MineCrak> So I am invisible
#5014 [23:40] <Iridium> what is?
#5015 [23:40] <Iridium> yep
#5016 [23:40] <MineCrak> Fantastic!
#5017 [23:40] <|Kiichan|> wheat = waterfalls. reeds = turn of water and punch :P. cactus = pistons!
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#5019 [23:41] <Jesse> Wug
#5020 [23:41] <MineCrak> God, so many boobies
#5021 [23:41] <Jesse> Im back
#5022 [23:41] <MineCrak> I love being invisible
#5023 [23:41] * |Kiichan| thereatens MineCrak with ductape
#5023 [23:42] <MineCrak> wholly kraap!
#5024 [23:42] <Jesse> Wuggggg
#5025 [23:42] <Wug> Jesse: does it work
#5026 [23:42] <MineCrak> someone saw me?
#5027 [23:42] <Jesse> no
#5028 [23:42] <Jesse> Wug: no
#5029 [23:42] <Wug> does everything else work
#5030 [23:42] <|Kiichan|> MineCrak: i have True Seeing :P
#5031 [23:42] <Iridium> i wonder whether i should build ladders right the way round my tree farm
#5032 [23:42] <MineCrak> So I am speaking only to you?
#5033 [23:42] <Wug> if that didnt fix it I'm not sure if theres anything I can do
#5034 [23:43] <Jesse> Wug: can u help me get the old driver back
#5035 [23:43] <Wug> yeah
#5036 [23:43] <Wug> send teamviewer info
#5037 [23:43] <MineCrak> Iridium can remain a failed Government coverup/
#5038 [23:43] <|Kiichan|> MineCrak: maybe :D but all the other voices are drowning you out!
#5039 [23:44] <Iridium> that's probs best, nobody wants to see me uncovered
#5040 [23:44] <Iridium> i think
#5041 [23:44] <Jesse> ok so please for the final time send me the team viewer website Wuf
#5042 [23:44] <Jesse> WUg
#5043 [23:44] <Jesse> Wug
#5044 [23:44] <|Kiichan|> :tv
#5045 [23:44] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#5046 [23:44] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /pm user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#5047 [23:44] <Iridium> how difficult is it to remember teamviewer.com?
#5048 [23:45] <|Kiichan|> as hard as correctbatterystaple
#5049 [23:45] <Wug> or the :tv factoid, which anyone can use
#5050 [23:45] * Wug is sleeeeeeepy
#5050 [23:45] <MineCrak> hmm, so I should keep spamming the default channel?
#5051 [23:45] <Iridium> speaking of sleep
#5052 [23:45] <Iridium> i should really sort out my sleeping pattern
#5053 [23:45] <Wug> MineCrak: as long as you're fixing minecraft
#5054 [23:45] <MineCrak> why?
#5055 [23:45] <Iridium> it's 4:45am right now
#5056 [23:46] <Wug> spam away
#5057 [23:46] <MineCrak> no it's not
#5058 [23:46] <Wug> MineCrak: ....
#5059 [23:46] <Wug> you're on the internet
#5060 [23:46] <Wug> which isnt in a country
#5061 [23:46] <MineCrak> derp
#5062 [23:46] <MineCrak> ;)
#5063 [23:47] * Wug makes a mental note that Iridium is 5 hours ahead
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#5064 [23:47] <MineCrak> 5?
#5065 [23:47] <Iridium> no i'm not
#5066 [23:47] <MineCrak> hmm
#5067 [23:47] <Iridium> you're 5 hours behind
#5068 [23:47] <Iridium> :P
#5069 [23:47] <MineCrak> You are in Alaska?
#5070 [23:48] <Iridium> GMT -5 != alaska
#5071 [23:48] <Iridium> i'm like a few thousand miles away and even i know that
#5072 [23:48] <MineCrak> uh
#5073 [23:48] <Iridium> -5 would be eastern time would it not?
#5074 [23:48] <MineCrak> from where/
#5075 [23:48] <Iridium> alaska
#5076 [23:49] <Iridium> ...did you get enough oxygen at birth?
#5077 [23:49] <MineCrak> you are the only one who said 5 hours
#5078 [23:49] <Iridium> i can't imagine why this conversation would be difficult to follow...
#5079 [23:49] <Iridium> [04:47] Wug makes a mental note that Iridium is 5 hours ahead
#5080 [23:50] <MineCrak> yeah, strange, considering only you saw your own timestamp...
#5081 [23:50] <Iridium> why is that strange?
#5082 [23:51] <MineCrak> because mine started with 20 not 04
#5083 [23:51] <Iridium> that's because we aren't in the same place dear
#5084 [23:51] <MineCrak> duh
#5085 [23:51] <Iridium> then why would you expect us to see the same timestamp?
#5086 [23:52] <MineCrak> oh goda
#5087 [23:52] <MineCrak> and gods
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#5089 [23:52] <MineCrak> nice attempt at cover up
#5090 [23:53] <Iridium> cover what up?
#5091 [23:54] <MineCrak> Are we really the right people to be arguing?
#5092 [23:54] <MineCrak> Seems a shame
#5093 [23:54] <Iridium> you call this an argument?
#5094 [23:54] <Iridium> i really do not envy your life
#5095 [23:54] <MineCrak> I call it a shame
#5096 [23:55] <Iridium> why's that?
#5097 [23:55] <MineCrak> I could see us as friends
#5098 [23:55] <MineCrak> but I guess you are at a differnet pojnt
#5099 [23:56] <MineCrak> point, even
#5100 [23:56] <Tyger> okay, so... anyone have any ideas on how to fix a java.net.SocketException: Socket Closed error?