#1 [00:00] <Wug> Tyger: try again a few times
#2 [00:00] <Wug> I've been getting that error randomly here and there lately
#3 [00:01] <Wug> ugh that took so long
#4 [00:01] <Wug> jesse had a derped sound driver
#5 [00:01] <Wug> and some obscure onboard sound chip I've never heard of
#6 [00:02] <Wug> and his windows UI was in spanish :X
#7 [00:02] <MineCrak> ok
#8 [00:02] <Wug> finally managed to trick windows into updating the driver to the newest version
#9 [00:02] <MineCrak> remote tech support is a pain
#10 [00:03] <MineCrak> even for people who know something about computers
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#12 [00:04] <Wug> teamviewer is great
#13 [00:04] <MineCrak> is this the help irc?
#14 [00:04] <Wug> its a shame it hates me
#15 [00:04] * Wug points at channel name
#15 [00:04] <Wug> "#minecrafthelp"
#16 [00:05] <MineCrak> weird, in my browser the "minecraftforums" is highlighted
#17 [00:05] <MineCrak> damned browser irc client!
#18 [00:06] <MineCrak> I would not have spent all this time with Irir otherwise, christ
#19 [00:06] <Iridium> sounds like a test to me wug
#20 [00:06] <Iridium> lol
#21 [00:06] <MineCrak> ok, yeah, lets troubleshoot this
#22 [00:06] <Iridium> well tyvm
#23 [00:07] <MineCrak> because I could clearly tell what tf was going on from Iri's help...
#24 [00:08] <Iridium> if you're trying to bait me it's not going to work
#25 [00:08] <Iridium> i'm incredibly patient and even more stubborn
#26 [00:09] <MineCrak> The MineCraftForum IRC subculture appears to be even more fascinating than even I could have possibly anticipated
#27 [00:10] <Iridium> lol good one
#28 [00:10] <MineCrak> Serious
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#30 [00:10] <MineCrak> I am fairly new here
#31 [00:10] <MineCrak> not on the Forum though
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#33 [00:10] <Iridium> yeah i've only been here a couple weeks maybe
#34 [00:10] <Iridium> if that
#35 [00:11] <MineCrak> Then you are older here than I am
#36 [00:11] <MineCrak> But I've been in a different channel
#37 [00:11] <MineCrak> 2 weeks?
#38 [00:12] <MineCrak> A Minecraft player?
#39 [00:12] <Iridium> oh i've been playing minecraft since alpha
#40 [00:12] <Iridium> late alpha
#41 [00:12] <MineCrak> Nice
#42 [00:12] <MineCrak> Good enough
#43 [00:12] <Iridium> yeah, just got in there while it was cheap :P
#44 [00:12] <Iridium> my brother had to pay full price xD
#45 [00:13] <MineCrak> Yeah, I put it off until the edge of alpha too
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#47 [00:13] <Iridium> i mean, i heard loads of talk about it even before then
#48 [00:13] <Iridium> looked at 1 rollercoaster vid or something and thought the same thing probably everyone did
#49 [00:14] <MineCrak> I heard from penny-arcade
#50 [00:14] <Iridium> wow the graphics on this look terrible and yeah i guess that's cool but still meh
#51 [00:14] <Iridium> but then when you actualy start playing that changes
#52 [00:14] <MineCrak> yeah
#53 [00:14] <MineCrak> cntrol
#54 [00:15] <Iridium> i just wish i could describe it better
#55 [00:15] <MineCrak> contol
#56 [00:15] <Iridium> i've got a mate that's a sceptic
#57 [00:15] <MineCrak> kill him
#58 [00:15] <Iridium> rofl
#59 [00:15] <Iridium> nah i couldn't do that
#60 [00:16] <Iridium> the amount of weed i've smoked with him
#61 [00:16] <MineCrak> oops, I was testing someone else
#62 [00:16] <MineCrak> texting
#63 [00:16] <MineCrak> damn
#64 [00:16] <Iridium> lol ok
#65 [00:16] <MineCrak> ;)
#66 [00:16] <Iridium> so i've noticed it's just been us two talking here for a while
#67 [00:17] <MineCrak> yeah..
#68 [00:17] <Iridium> is everybody else in help only mode or something?
#69 [00:17] <MineCrak> They are too scared to chat with crazy people
#70 [00:18] <MineCrak> before I was here it was just you talking with yourself.. ;)
#71 [00:18] <Iridium> don't diss
#72 [00:18] <Iridium> the best conversations i've ever had was with myself
#73 [00:19] <Iridium> it's like, me and myself are on this wavelength
#74 [00:19] <Iridium> we know exactly what each other are thinking
#75 [00:19] <MineCrak> yeah, it took awhile to break in and get this appointment with you, heh heh
#76 [00:19] <Iridium> we have this special bond
#77 [00:20] <MineCrak> I had to work it out for months in advance with the OP's here
#78 [00:20] <Iridium> lol
#79 [00:21] <MineCrak> They were like "Minecraft? WTF is that?"
#80 [00:22] <Iridium> actually that's a point
#81 [00:22] <Iridium> i wonder what wiki says about minecraft
#82 [00:22] <MineCrak> You actually had them all, especially wug, brainwashed into thinking this was the Iridium IRC Channel
#83 [00:22] <Iridium> oh god, now that would be bad
#84 [00:23] <MineCrak> It took me, an outside Agent to work this out, heh heh
#85 [00:23] <Iridium> it'd be filled with comments like "I need help! nm i fixed it myself, nowait really i need help, ok i got it"
#86 [00:23] <MineCrak> No, they never fix it themselves
#87 [00:23] <bassrocks> Thanks for your help
#88 [00:24] <MineCrak> lol
#89 [00:24] <Iridium> are you being ironic or did somebody else actually help you? :P
#90 [00:24] <Iridium> sarcastic*
#91 [00:25] <MineCrak> No one ever helps me
#92 [00:25] <MineCrak> consider me an Agent of , well, murphys law or something
#93 [00:25] <Iridium> oh god no
#94 [00:26] <Iridium> i found some iron in the side of my staircase to bedrock
#95 [00:26] <Iridium> dig that out and then some sand falls
#96 [00:26] <MineCrak> I'm usually on the wrong channel
#97 [00:26] <Iridium> and i really hate sand
#98 [00:26] <Iridium> so i dig out that sand
#99 [00:26] <MineCrak> They keep telling me that
#100 [00:26] <Iridium> guess what's above it
#101 [00:26] <MineCrak> So i finally tried to find the "Right" Channel
#102 [00:26] <MineCrak> And I find you...
#103 [00:27] <Iridium> rofl, how unlucky
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#105 [00:27] <MineCrak> for someone
#106 [00:30] <MineCrak> Oh man, what do you know? I guess I was in the wrong thread after all
#107 [00:31] <Iridium> lol
#108 [00:31] <MineCrak> Silly icons
#109 [00:31] <MineCrak> Still, I come away knowing something new
#110 [00:31] <MineCrak> and reporting something new
#111 [00:31] <MineCrak> a beautiful day
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#113 [00:32] <MineCrak> Good night Wug
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#115 [00:32] <padwack1234> my video card is too good for minecraft
#116 [00:33] <padwack1234> how can i fix it
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#118 [00:37] <Iridium> this is a troll right?
#119 [00:39] * Wug going down for shutdown NOW!
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#125 [01:14] <findow> good morning
#126 [01:15] <findow> hello?
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#128 [01:16] <mib_79o9vm> hello?
#129 [01:17] <Chris> hi
#130 [01:17] <mib_79o9vm> are you the tech guy?
#131 [01:18] <mib_79o9vm> i apologize if that was offensive
#132 [01:19] <mib_79o9vm> ...
#133 [01:19] <Chris> haha it's not, but what do you mean by tech guy? I can help with some things if that's what you mean
#134 [01:19] <mib_79o9vm> that is in fact what i mean
#135 [01:19] <Chris> okay then, what's the problem?
#136 [01:20] <mib_79o9vm> i am running mac os 10.6.8 and every time i try to open minecraft my computer black screens...
#137 [01:20] <mib_79o9vm> any sugestions?
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#139 [01:21] <Chris> do you get any errors of any kind?
#140 [01:21] <mib_79o9vm> nope, my computer just kaputs
#141 [01:22] <mib_79o9vm> and the i restart it and... no such luck
#142 [01:22] <Chris> do you have any hs_err_pid files on your desktop?
#143 [01:22] <mib_79o9vm> none whatsoever
#144 [01:22] <Chris> can you check in the location that voxelbot says...
#145 [01:23] <Chris> ??> mib_79o9vm mac/.minecraft
#146 [01:23] * |Kiichan| wanders through with empty salsa bowl
#146 [01:23] <VoxelHead> mib_79o9vm: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#147 [01:23] <mib_79o9vm> i've been to it many times
#148 [01:24] <Chris> no hs_err_pid?
#149 [01:24] <Netti> Black screens?
#150 [01:24] <Netti> Flickering black?
#151 [01:24] <mib_79o9vm> entire computer black screens just solid blaxk
#152 [01:24] <Chris> I'll leave you with netti, I don't know mac very well...
#153 [01:25] <Netti> Chris: I'm about to sleep, but it sounds like something I might've experienced before
#154 [01:25] <mib_79o9vm> what file am i looking for in .minecraft
#155 [01:25] <mib_79o9vm> oh
#156 [01:25] <Chris> ah okay, I don't know anything about mac...
#157 [01:25] <Netti> Not with Minecraft, but with Mac.
#158 [01:25] <Netti> It's a somewhat finnicky operating system when it comes to games.
#159 [01:26] <mib_79o9vm> indeed it is
#160 [01:26] <Netti> never made as a gaming OS, but we use it for that anyway.
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#162 [01:26] <mib_79o9vm> and who is "we" ?
#163 [01:26] <Netti> mib_79o9vm: Can you /nick to something other than mib_?
#164 [01:27] <mib_79o9vm> how
#165 [01:27] <Netti> And just us mac users.
#166 [01:27] <Netti> Just /nick yournickhere
#167 [01:27] <Netti> darnit
#168 [01:27] <Netti> ./nick is the command. :P
#169 [01:27] <Netti> I accidentally typed /nick is. o.o
#170 [01:27] <Netti> well, '/nick is the command', which set my nick to 'is'. suckage.
#171 [01:27] <Gwti> there
#172 [01:28] <Gwti> @.@
#173 [01:28] <Netti> anyways. we just referring to mac users.
#174 [01:28] <Netti> but I digress
#175 [01:28] <Netti> Have you googled this at all
#176 [01:28] <Netti> ?*
#177 [01:28] <Gwti> yup
#178 [01:28] <Gwti> first thing i did then i took my mac in to be checked...
#179 [01:29] <Gwti> they said it had something to do with google chrome
#180 [01:29] <Gwti> which wasn't very helpfull
#181 [01:29] * |Kiichan| wanders back through.
#181 [01:29] <|Kiichan|> hullos!
#182 [01:29] <Chris> hello
#183 [01:30] <Gwti> so i deleted or renamed most of the files with google in them
#184 [01:30] <Gwti> and still no luck
#185 [01:30] <Gwti> so i came here
#186 [01:30] <Gwti> ... thats my story
#187 [01:31] <Netti> The story was missing a fireplace, but that's OK. I'll forgive you. Not everyone has a fireplace lying around. :)
#188 [01:31] <Netti> Let's see.
#189 [01:31] <Gwti> -.-
#190 [01:31] <Gwti> you have a fine sense of humor
#191 [01:31] <Netti> Minecraft. Black screen. Mac Lion. Flat black.
#192 [01:32] <Gwti> nope mac snow leopered
#193 [01:32] * |Kiichan| hands netti one :P
#193 [01:32] <Gwti> i just killed that word...
#194 [01:32] <Netti> 10.8, you said.
#195 [01:32] <|Kiichan|> 10.6.8
#196 [01:32] <Netti> or 10.6.8..
#197 [01:33] <Gwti> the latter
#198 [01:33] <Netti> gah, it's too late for me.
#199 [01:33] <Netti> wait, wtf? 10.8.. isn't even out.
#200 [01:33] <Netti> Yeah. It's too late at night for me. xD
#201 [01:33] <Gwti> why what time is it there
#202 [01:33] * |Kiichan| just scanned the logs... and not only has very little knowledghe of macs... but thats a BAD crash anyway
#202 [01:33] <Netti> Eh, 00:33.
#203 [01:33] <|Kiichan|> 1:33am here :D
#204 [01:33] <Gwti> nice its 4:33 here
#205 [01:34] <Netti> 04:33?
#206 [01:34] * |Kiichan| dances and goes back to thinkign up new uses for this water-boat-sky-thing
#206 [01:34] <Netti> or 16:33?
#207 [01:34] <Netti> regardless.
#208 [01:34] <Gwti> <.< >.> im nocturnal
#209 [01:34] <|Kiichan|> Eternal Nocturnal...
#210 [01:34] <Netti> I'm not sure what the immediate fix is. I just know how to play around and fix the fix.
#211 [01:34] <Gwti> indeed
#212 [01:34] <Netti> find the fix*
#213 [01:34] * |Kiichan| copywrites and prints tshirt line
#213 [01:34] <Netti> eh, I don't have the time to be nocturnal.
#214 [01:34] <Netti> University.
#215 [01:34] <Netti> I'd fail classes on four hours of sleep.
#216 [01:35] <Gwti> oh fun..
#217 [01:35] <|Kiichan|> id SUGEST java update... or video update... but dont think macs can do that :P
#218 [01:35] <Gwti> i dont have class t'ill 11am tomorow
#219 [01:35] <Gwti> probably not
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#221 [01:35] <Netti> Can't update graphics drivers. No need to.
#222 [01:36] <Netti> Java update? Already at latest, unless you haven't run Software Update in a while.
#223 [01:36] <|Kiichan|> and if java borks, your boned :P
#224 [01:36] <Netti> Macs get custom-tailored Java releases. We're behind a bit.
#225 [01:36] <Gwti> i do it every week soo
#226 [01:36] <Netti> But I'm also 10.6.8.
#227 [01:36] <Netti> I refuse to go 1.7
#228 [01:36] <Gwti> heh heh i didn't know that >.>
#229 [01:36] <Netti> 10.7*
#230 [01:36] <Netti> anyways.
#231 [01:36] <Gwti> soo do i
#232 [01:37] <Netti> What have you done so far?
#233 [01:37] <Scott> 10.7 is nice :>
#234 [01:37] <Scott> Also, you can get 1.6.0_27 from the OS X developer site.
#235 [01:37] <jampot5000> Hey guys do you know how to fix the too many failed logins issue just opened my minecraft now and i just get that error
#236 [01:37] <Netti> Scott: As long as it's an iOS for my desktop, I'd rather not use it.
#237 [01:37] <Scott> Netti: You must not have seen it.
#238 [01:37] <Netti> I've never gotten to use it personally.
#239 [01:37] <Netti> I've seen it.
#240 [01:37] <Scott> It isn't iOS for desktop lol
#241 [01:38] <Scott> I assume you're talking about Launchpad
#242 [01:38] <Netti> A developer buddy of mine has it.
#243 [01:38] <Scott> I don't even use it.
#244 [01:38] <Netti> Doesn't like it all that much.
#245 [01:38] <Scott> There's not any major changes...
#246 [01:38] <Gwti> except for hiding .minecraft
#247 [01:38] <Scott> I got the update for free.
#248 [01:38] <Gwti> -.-
#249 [01:38] <Netti> anyways.
#250 [01:39] <Scott> You mean hiding the Library folder?
#251 [01:39] <Netti> What have you done so far?
#252 [01:39] <Gwti> indeed
#253 [01:39] <Gwti> me?
#254 [01:39] <Scott> That is easily fixed.
#255 [01:39] <Netti> Yeah.
#256 [01:39] <Gwti> what do you meen
#257 [01:39] <|Kiichan|> chmod nohidden ~/Library
#258 [01:39] <|Kiichan|> :P
#259 [01:39] <Scott> Open a terminal and enter: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#260 [01:39] <|Kiichan|> bah.. close
#261 [01:40] <Gwti> sorry wrong conversation
#262 [01:40] <Scott> Or just open finder and press command + shift + g and type ~/Library
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#264 [01:40] <Gwti> Netti: what do you mean
#265 [01:41] <|Kiichan|> Scott: got any ideas for me to try out with my vertical boat travel thing?
#266 [01:41] * |Kiichan| has an elevator prototype
#266 [01:41] <Netti> Gwti: To try and fix the minecraft blackscreen
#267 [01:41] <Gwti> yes the computer black screen
#268 [01:42] <Gwti> you asked "what have you done so far" what do you meen?
#269 [01:42] <Netti> Yes.
#270 [01:42] <Netti> What have you done to try and fix it?
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#272 [01:44] <Gwti> ive reset minecraft , reinstalled mac os x.6.8 , had my computer checked , looked up solutions on google and had a wonderful chat with you guys.
#273 [01:45] <Chris> the chat is the best bit xD
#274 [01:45] <Netti> Minecraft's the only thing you blackscreen on?
#275 [01:45] <Gwti> well no.. but its the main thing
#276 [01:46] <Netti> What else does it blackscreen on?
#277 [01:46] <Gwti> ive also black screened on overgrowth, tf2, google chrome, mornings and toribash.
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#279 [01:47] <Netti> On Google Chrome?
#280 [01:47] <Netti> What were you doing on Chrome?
#281 [01:48] <Iridium> the longer it takes you to tell us you were fapping, the more akward it gets xD
#282 [01:48] <|Kiichan|> ... toribash = angry birds clone?
#283 [01:48] <Netti> |Kiichan|: Toribash has been around for longer than angry birds.
#284 [01:48] <Gwti> browsing, youtube, explosm.net . oh and i've black screened on hamchi
#285 [01:48] <|Kiichan|> Iridium: *bap!*
#286 [01:48] <Netti> AFAIK
#287 [01:48] <Gwti> much onger
#288 [01:48] <Iridium> :o
#289 [01:48] <Gwti> *longer
#290 [01:49] <Netti> 3 years.
#291 [01:49] <Netti> that's all.
#292 [01:49] <Netti> On HAMACHI?
#293 [01:49] <Netti> Wat?
#294 [01:49] <Gwti> wuts up?
#295 [01:49] <Gwti> why hamachi
#296 [01:49] <Netti> I don't see any correlation.
#297 [01:49] <|Kiichan|> ?? fubar/hamachi
#298 [01:49] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#299 [01:49] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#300 [01:50] <|Kiichan|> just for future reference :P
#301 [01:50] <Chris> I was just about to type that xD
#302 [01:50] <Gwti> whay
#303 [01:50] <Gwti> *what
#304 [01:50] <Netti> ignore.
#305 [01:50] <Gwti> @.@
#306 [01:50] <Netti> can't solve what's not the pertinent problem.
#307 [01:50] <Netti> don't give the man more worries.
#308 [01:50] <|Kiichan|> hehehe
#309 [01:51] <Netti> just fix the problem in the zone he's in.
#310 [01:51] <|Kiichan|> dont worry. im poking at my elevator
#311 [01:51] <Netti> tha's our purpose. :P
#312 [01:51] <Gwti> thank you
#313 [01:51] <Netti> This is a Mac OS X problem, by no means a minecraft problem.
#314 [01:52] <Netti> I've seen similar before.
#315 [01:52] <Gwti> oh
#316 [01:52] <Netti> I don't remember the solution, but I can tell ya that these guys usually can't answer it.
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#318 [01:52] <|Kiichan|> Netti: was in in here?
#319 [01:52] <Netti> and I'm not seeing any correlation between the apps right now. The clickity tickity isn't working.
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#321 [01:52] <Gwti> soo what should i do?
#322 [01:53] <Netti> Gwti: They're smart comp guys, but most aren't macs. xD
#323 [01:53] <Netti> Best guess is wait until tomorrow, look up black screening for mac os x 10.6.8 for your model of your computer. Are you on a MacBook, or what?
#324 [01:53] <Gwti> and whats the problem with hamchi
#325 [01:53] <Netti> Hamachi sucks. :P
#326 [01:54] <Netti> We are very biased against Hamachi.
#327 [01:54] <|Kiichan|> hamachi conflicts with the internet. thats basicly it.
#328 [01:54] <Gwti> oh is there something i should use instead
#329 [01:54] <Netti> port forwarding.
#330 [01:54] <Netti> or a real VPN.
#331 [01:54] <|Kiichan|> or a proper vpn...
#332 [01:54] <Netti> BUT ANYWAYS.
#333 [01:54] <Netti> that's not what we're worried about right now.
#334 [01:54] <Netti> that won't solve your blackscreen problems.
#335 [01:54] <|Kiichan|> Netti: we have channel logs... that solution, was it in here?
#336 [01:54] <Gwti> will it not?
#337 [01:55] <Netti> |Kiichan|: solution to what?
#338 [01:55] <|Kiichan|> the mac blackscreen thing :P i can logsearch
#339 [01:55] <Netti> No idea.
#340 [01:55] <Netti> I've never seen it here personally.
#341 [01:55] <Netti> Could've been, but I wouldn't know.
#342 [01:55] <Gwti> that would be nice
#343 [01:55] <|Kiichan|> beh!
#344 [01:55] <Netti> I disappeared from #minecrafthelp for a few months. xD
#345 [01:56] <Netti> Summer break and all, y'know.
#346 [01:56] <Gwti> oh and yes im am on a mac book 15 inch
#347 [01:58] <Gwti> ...
#348 [01:58] <Ryladine> Gwti: Which version of OSX?
#349 [01:58] <|Kiichan|> 10.6.8
#350 [01:58] <Netti> 10.6.8
#351 [01:58] <|Kiichan|> :P
#352 [01:58] <Gwti> wow you guys are fast
#353 [01:58] <Netti> We're no-life computer nerds.
#354 [01:58] <Netti> What do you expect? :P
#355 [01:58] <Ryladine> Lol, Sorry saw he was waiting and got distracted from my 20 minutes of non stop nyan cat :)
#356 [01:59] <Gwti> thats what i aspire to be
#357 [01:59] <|Kiichan|> Ryladine: leekspin/loituma is better :P
#358 [01:59] <Netti> leekspin.
#359 [01:59] <Netti> oh god.
#360 [01:59] <Netti> I still can't get enough of the caramelladansen.
#361 [01:59] <Ryladine> http://nyan.cat/ :) I'm at 1270 seconds
#362 [02:00] <Gwti> o.0 you guys are my heroes
#363 [02:00] <Netti> Ryladine: weak.
#364 [02:00] <Netti> I've had 1,000,000 seconds.
#365 [02:00] <Netti> legit.
#366 [02:00] <Ryladine> I'm just getting started :) And I'm staring at the screen it's on
#367 [02:00] <Gwti> i just left it on for a week
#368 [02:01] <Ryladine> lol
#369 [02:01] * |Kiichan| growls at entirely unhelpful mac help sites
#369 [02:01] <Netti> mac blackscreen..
#370 [02:01] <Netti> whole mac.
#371 [02:01] <Netti> right?
#372 [02:01] <Ryladine> Lol pooor pooor kiichan
#373 [02:01] <|Kiichan|> read, crash
#374 [02:01] <Gwti> heh
#375 [02:01] <Gwti> indeed
#376 [02:01] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] Battlefield 3 is looking amazing. (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/sKVuBM
#377 [02:02] <Ryladine> o.o when I stop watching this in a few hours I'll go to sleep... and I think I may dream in Nyancat
#378 [02:02] <|Kiichan|> Ryladine: dream ofa hairy fat man in nyncat spandex with cape as he sings the song in a not-quite-rich baritone!
#379 [02:02] <|Kiichan|> mwaahaha
#380 [02:03] <Netti> hrmph
#381 [02:03] <Netti> .
#382 [02:03] <Netti> I've seen it before.
#383 [02:03] <Ryladine> My god.. Kiichan you cruel cruel person.....
#384 [02:03] <Gwti> indeed
#385 [02:03] <Netti> I can't. at all. remember what the fix is.
#386 [02:03] <Scott> GreyVulpine, is McPlusPlus even supposed to be in here?
#387 [02:03] * |Kiichan| has an author-complex :P
#387 [02:03] <Netti> My mac used to flickering blackscreen when I ran SC2.
#388 [02:04] <Gwti> ???
#389 [02:04] <Netti> It'd generate from the bottom and the black lines would go up horizontally across my screen.
#390 [02:04] * Ryladine knows barly anything about mac but...
#390 [02:04] <Netti> That's long gone and fixed. Don't remember.
#391 [02:04] <Netti> What model mac book?
#392 [02:04] <Netti> It should be on the bottom of the macbook.
#393 [02:05] <Netti> A1052 or something.
#394 [02:05] <Ryladine> Does mac have any kind of administrative permissions kind of thing that could keep java from using the open GL correctly? (Again I know next to nothing about MAC)
#395 [02:05] * |Kiichan| has been through 3 google search pages without even a hint... gives up
#395 [02:05] <Gwti> umm a1286
#396 [02:05] <Thrae> Scott: I messaged MCPlusPlus yesterday....no response
#397 [02:06] * [R-P][HC]hollybunny [[R-P][HC]hollybunny@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#398 [02:06] <Scott> Well it's a bot so i'm not surprised ;)
#399 [02:06] <|Kiichan|> McPlusPlus = bot. and i think he was oked
#400 [02:06] <Gwti> only my acount
#401 [02:06] <Scott> Django, Rails, or PHP? :<
#402 [02:06] <robothangover> hello
#403 [02:06] <Gwti> so no restrcktions
#404 [02:06] <robothangover> i have a big problem
#405 [02:06] <Gwti> oh
#406 [02:06] <Ryladine> Speak it then
#407 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Scott - Yeah, very limited bot, is g's
#408 [02:07] <robothangover> me minecraft is hacked
#409 [02:07] * mib_u880nf [mib_u880nf@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#410 [02:07] <Thrae> Netti , Gwti : This might come in handy -- http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/download.html
#411 [02:07] <LCARS> :O
#412 [02:07] <LCARS> Wrong tab. I apolgize.
#413 [02:07] <Ryladine> ??< account
#414 [02:07] <Thrae> Scott: Yeah I know, but sometimes the good bot owners check their messages :)
#415 [02:07] <Ryladine> ??> robothangover account
#416 [02:07] <VoxelHead> robothangover: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#417 [02:07] <VoxelHead> robothangover: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#418 [02:07] <Gwti> netti:what is "this
#419 [02:08] <|Kiichan|> it tells you want OpenGL extentions your computer is capable of
#420 [02:08] <Thrae> robothangover: http://minecraft.net/support/ , select Account, then select Hacked
#421 [02:08] * |Kiichan| tested school Dells with it... and got 2.0...
#421 [02:08] <Thrae> |Kiichan|: Not bad for a *school* computer
#422 [02:09] <Netti> Thrae: Dunno. Maybe.
#423 [02:09] <|Kiichan|> those were the techhall comps.. mostly used for programming :P
#424 [02:09] <|Kiichan|> seen people playing wow on digiarts comps
#425 [02:09] <Thrae> |Kiichan|: Yeah, I'm familiar with Dell computers, especially workstations
#426 [02:10] <Gwti> downloading naow
#427 [02:10] <mib_u880nf> hi guys bought the game yesterday, played it online works well. my problem is the game cant be played without internet conection, when it says it can???
#428 [02:10] <robothangover> My account was hacked and my email address has changed what do I do?
#429 [02:11] <Thrae> mib_u880nf: You just need an Internet connection to download the game. Once you download the game you can play Single Player offline.
#430 [02:11] <|Kiichan|> mib_u880nf: you can play it without internet. you need to connect once to download the game...
#431 [02:11] <lemon-rev> mib_u880nf you only need internet connection once to get all the files to play mc, but if you connect once yuo log in its because its saying that onine play is avaible not used constant
#432 [02:11] <Netti> mib_u880nf: What they said.
#433 [02:11] <Thrae> <robothangover> My account was hacked and my email address has changed what do I do? <-- I am talking to you when I say "robothangover"
#434 [02:11] <mib_u880nf> tried that but still wont let me play offline??
#435 [02:12] <Netti> Gwti: I've gotta head to sleep, but let me know later if it worked. /concerned.
#436 [02:12] <Gwti> okay ... when
#437 [02:12] <Thrae> robothangover: Go to http://www.minecraft.net/support and select Account, then Hacked. Verify you have followed the instructions here, then click on "I need further support" and follow those instructions. You'll be prompted for the User name, Receipt ID from Mojang, Credit Card owner's name or Paypal account, and a *NEW* Email Address to link to the account.
#438 [02:13] <lemon-rev> mib_u880nf its will be basicly offline unless you connect to a server online ok, so you dont have to worry, its more for online database check once you login a simple yes no request ok
#439 [02:13] <Thrae> mib_u880nf: What happens after you download Minecraft, log in once, and then disconnect yourself from the Internet?
#440 [02:14] <mib_u880nf> ok thx guys ill try that
#441 [02:14] <Gwti> |kiichan|: soo what do i do with this program now
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#443 [02:14] <robothangover> i have forgot me id
#444 [02:14] <Gwti> hello again
#445 [02:15] <|Kiichan|> Gwti: its an info tool. if its telling you your opengl support isnt even 1.3... then theres a problem
#446 [02:15] <Wug> Thrae: isnt it impossible to change the email address associated with the account
#447 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Wug - Yes.
#448 [02:15] <Wug> then why cant he just request a password reset
#449 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Not possible at this time to change email at all on Mojang's site
#450 [02:15] <Gwti> |Kiichan|: where does it say what the support is
#451 [02:15] <Thrae> robothangover: Mojang will need proof of purchase. Do you have any?
#452 [02:16] <Gwti> i feel like a noob
#453 [02:16] <Thrae> Wug , GreyVulpine : I'm just saying what's on www.minecraft.net/support under Account->Hacked. There they ask for "The email address you want to be linked to the account".
#454 [02:16] <Ryladine> Gwti: When it comes to MAC, or anything apple, everyone feels like a noob. :)
#455 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, but that's a manual process.
#456 [02:17] <Gwti> thanks
#457 [02:17] <Thrae> Yeah, but robothangover isn't asking for an email address change specifically, he just says his account has been hacked, password and email address.
#458 [02:17] <Gwti> |Kiichan|: where does it say what the support for open gl is
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#460 [02:19] <Gwti> ...
#461 [02:19] <|Kiichan|> Gwti: note sure. only used it like 3 times and thought it was fairly ovbious o.o;
#462 [02:20] <|Kiichan|> and sorry :P salsa fighting back
#463 [02:20] <Gwti> well... i guess im blind
#464 [02:21] * Thayli [Thayli@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#465 [02:21] <Ryladine> Whats this tool your having him use kii?
#466 [02:21] <Gwti> would it posibly be under open gl... i am blind
#467 [02:22] <Gwti> @.@
#468 [02:22] <Thrae> Gwti: Sorry, I was noping someone with Mac OS X would help you out, as that tool looks a good bit different in Windows than Mac OS X =/
#469 [02:22] <Thrae> Someone gave me a screenshot once but I lost it :(
#470 [02:22] <|Kiichan|> Ryladine: IM not having him use it.. someone else sugested :P the glview app
#471 [02:22] <Scott> Gwti: If you tell me your problem, I may be able to help you but please hurry. I'm about to fall asleep.
#472 [02:22] <Ryladine> lol
#473 [02:23] <|Kiichan|> Scott: minecraft, and other apps, cases the macbook 10.6.8 to crash
#474 [02:23] * Thayli [Thayli@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#475 [02:23] <Scott> It sounds like you've screwed up your OS install or you have hardware issues.
#476 [02:23] <Wug> if its a mac driver issue theres nothing that can be done
#477 [02:23] <Wug> since you cant just reinstall it
#478 [02:23] <Thrae> Other apps? Other OpenGL apps, or just other apps?
#479 [02:23] <Wug> because steve jobs
#480 [02:23] <Gwti> um when i use minecraft (diagnosed) to be hamchi ibleck sreen
#481 [02:23] <Scott> Wug: There is no need to reinstall drivers.
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#483 [02:24] <Scott> It just works.
#484 [02:24] <Wug> oh, ok
#485 [02:24] <Wug> but it isnt just working
#486 [02:24] <Gwti> i dont think steve jobs did anything to my mac
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#488 [02:24] <Scott> Likely because he's broken something in the OS or he's having a hardware failure.
#489 [02:24] <Scott> In which case, I suggest you reinstall OS X and if the problem persists visit an Apple store.
#490 [02:24] <Gwti> oh... fun
#491 [02:24] <Wug> Gwti: apart from designed it to be inservicible
#492 [02:24] <Gwti> okay thank yoou
#493 [02:25] <Ryladine> o.m.g Steve jobs came back from the dead and is breaking minecraft on peoples macs!
#494 [02:25] <Gwti> LOL
#495 [02:25] <Scott> :(
#496 [02:25] <Scott> Richard Stallman is a dick.
#497 [02:25] <Scott> I refuse to support the FSF now.
#498 [02:26] <Scott> I never really liked them before anyways. Open isn't always good.
#499 [02:26] <Wug> kind of like how minecraft in its current state does not and will never work on osx 1.5.8 because apple cant or wont provide an updated driver, and even if they could, its not like it would be installable without reinstalling the os
#500 [02:26] <Gwti> i've gotten a diferent sugestion from every one here but so far i think ryladine 's is the best -.-
#501 [02:26] <Wug> and richard stallman isnt a dick, hes just a troll
#502 [02:26] <Scott> Wug: lol.
#503 [02:26] <Scott> It could be provided as an OS update or just an update
#504 [02:26] <Wug> Scott: same thing with java
#505 [02:26] <Scott> I've updated my drivers without installing an OS update.
#506 [02:26] <Scott> They're provided through Software Update.
#507 [02:26] <Scott> As are EFI updates.
#508 [02:26] <Wug> you cant uninstall or downgrade java on a mac without reinstalling the os
#509 [02:27] <Wug> so if java's broken somehow, you're boned
#510 [02:27] <Gwti> damn
#511 [02:27] <Wug> unless there just happens to be a new version
#512 [02:27] <Ryladine> uh... I gave you a solution? I don't remember... lol
#513 [02:27] <Scott> You don't need to downgrade
#514 [02:27] <Scott> Install another version and change the version for that app?
#515 [02:27] <Wug> some programs require specific versions
#516 [02:27] <Gwti> ryladine: this one "o.m.g Steve jobs came back from the dead and is breaking minecraft on peoples macs!"
#517 [02:27] <Scott> Then install that specific version and change it to that version? :D
#518 [02:27] <Thrae> Open I don't have as much a problem with as Free. People seem to think Free should always follow Open, but it can be hard to do both Open and Free...case in point, Oracle nixxed OpenSolaris, and Illumonos came about as Open+Free instead of just Open. Still not production-worthy yet.
#519 [02:28] <Wug> usually because they depend on odd behavior specific to that version
#520 [02:28] <Wug> you cant just install 2 javas on a mac (unless I'm mistaken there's no way to do this or to downgrade)
#521 [02:28] <Scott> Yes you can...
#522 [02:28] <Scott> lol
#523 [02:28] <Wug> how then
#524 [02:29] <Scott> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/Screenshots/~u12.png you can install another one and you can choose what you want to use here
#525 [02:29] <|Kiichan|> wug got scotted? :P
#526 [02:29] <Wug> I'm pretty sure I looked for a while because of a problem I encountered here and the google consensus was "if java gets screwed up on a mac, pretty much your only option is to reinstall the os"
#527 [02:29] <Wug> I don't own a mac and cannot verify but was unable to find any information regarding any alternative
#528 [02:30] <Wug> also Scott you can pick between 32 bit and 64 bit javas ... of the same version
#529 [02:30] <Scott> Right
#530 [02:30] <Wug> I don't see any java 5 in there
#531 [02:30] <Scott> because I don't have any other versions installed
#532 [02:30] <Gwti> its really incredible how much time your all spending doing this
#533 [02:30] <Scott> but I could install java 5
#534 [02:30] <Scott> and it would be listed :D
#535 [02:31] <Wug> Gwti: I compulsively hate macs and Scott has one
#536 [02:31] <Wug> so we fight about it
#537 [02:31] <Scott> No, you say untrue things and I correct you. :)
#538 [02:31] <Gwti> oh
#539 [02:31] <Gwti> i get it
#540 [02:31] <Gwti> why do you dislike macs
#541 [02:31] <Wug> they make no sense to me
#542 [02:32] <Gwti> ah the way of thinking started many wars
#543 [02:32] <Thrae> Personally most of the problems I have with Windows is due to hardware failure and errors, and that can happen on Macs too, especially Intel Macs as they're now x86 PCs too.
#544 [02:32] <Wug> as someone who has used windows since forever, I think their interface is some impossible combination of arcane and ridiculously oversimplified
#545 [02:32] <Scott> I quite enjoy the interface :>
#546 [02:32] <Scott> Windows makes me want to kill people.
#547 [02:33] <Gwti> LOL
#548 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> I used a mac in school, and could never take the computers seriously when it quacked every time you changed the volume
#549 [02:33] <Wug> ^
#550 [02:33] <Thrae> And when I say "most of the problems" I mean most of the problems that are catastrophic.
#551 [02:33] <Scott> GreyVulpine: I love that noise.
#552 [02:33] * GreyVulpine shudders
#552 [02:33] <Gwti> this is fun to watch
#553 [02:33] <Wug> I havent ever had an issue with a computer that wasnt either directly or indirectly my fault
#554 [02:33] <Wug> apart from the inevitable hardware failures
#555 [02:34] <Wug> and even some of those
#556 [02:34] <Wug> >.>
#557 [02:34] <Wug> I am not nice to computers
#558 [02:34] <Gwti> i wisj i could get a proper gaming computer
#559 [02:34] <Kalgalath> hardware failure is inevetable, even in an entirely solid-state machine.
#560 [02:34] <Scott> The only issue I've had with my mac was booting to a DVD when EFI was locked and that's because I couldn't figure out the proper key combination.
#561 [02:34] <Wug> Scott: how old is it
#562 [02:35] <Kalgalath> Macs= overpriced windows PCs with trainingwheels on the OS
#563 [02:35] <Wug> ^
#564 [02:35] <Thrae> Wug: That's kinda a loaded statement though -- if we installed Windows ME and left it in a room powered off, there's a very reasonable chance it'd be fine when you did turn it on it'd be working ;)
#565 [02:35] <Wug> I rathe believe that
#566 [02:35] <Gwti> i hear alienwares are nice
#567 [02:35] <Thrae> Computers only fail because of *people*.
#568 [02:35] <Wug> Gwti: theyre overpriced to hell
#569 [02:35] <Kalgalath> not true
#570 [02:35] <Scott> I actually don't remember when I got it but it's an early 2011 model.
#571 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> alienwares are overpriced crap
#572 [02:35] <Scott> I'd have to go find the receipt.
#573 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> They used to be 'chic' before dell bought them out
#574 [02:35] <Wug> GreyVulpine: theyre not crap, theyre just overpriced
#575 [02:36] <Wug> they're just meh
#576 [02:36] <Scott> Why not just buy a Dell without a funky case for less with the same hardware?
#577 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> You can't dispute that the quality of alienware's gone down since they got bought out by dell
#578 [02:36] <Kalgalath> an active computer, evern remaining entirely idel, with a steady 'clean' power supply will eventually fail, even if all components are solid state... it would simply take much longer
#579 [02:36] <Wug> no, I cant
#580 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Dell got the better part of the deal in the alienware purchase
#581 [02:36] <Wug> but they have a long way to fall before they hit walmart level
#582 [02:36] <Scott> lolwat
#583 [02:36] <Kalgalath> IMO.. anything overpriced = crap
#584 [02:36] <Scott> Wug: Dell is already sold in Walmart.
#585 [02:36] <Thrae> Kalgalath: That's debatable because people design and implement the computer too ;)
#586 [02:36] <Scott> it is the same hardware
#587 [02:37] <Wug> Scott: find me a computer sold at wallmart with a 480 in it
#588 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> I think Wug means "emachines" level
#589 [02:37] <Wug> \bl
#590 [02:37] <Kalgalath> @Thrae this is assuming flawless design and manufacture.
#591 [02:37] <Gwti> then what would you suggest as a very nice computer
#592 [02:37] <Iridium> what tool should i use to clear leaves?
#593 [02:37] <Kalgalath> ^homebrew
#594 [02:37] <Wug> Gwti: build it yourself
#595 [02:37] <Scott> I quite enjoy my 2011 MBP.
#596 [02:37] <Thrae> Kalgalath: Nothing made by humans is "flawless". That's my point.
#597 [02:37] <Wug> Scott: well, have fun with it while it lasts
#598 [02:38] <Gwti> thats what i thought
#599 [02:38] <|Kiichan|> nothing that exists is 'flawless'
#600 [02:38] <Wug> 6 months is too early for failures of any sort to be justified
#601 [02:38] <Wug> my laptop is going to be 7 next year and the only component that's died is the HDD
#602 [02:38] <Kalgalath> Thrae: Its a hypothetical to prove a point. even given perfect conditions, on a perfectly made machine, it would eventually wear down just rom the electrons deteriorating the circuits
#603 [02:38] <Scott> I suspect it will be fine unless I spill water on it.
#604 [02:38] <Scott> My sister killed my Dell.
#605 [02:38] <Wug> or until the battery warps and explodes
#606 [02:39] <Scott> Fried the motherboard with water.
#607 [02:39] <Scott> Well technically I did that.
#608 [02:39] <Wug> thats apparently a fairly common macbook problem
#609 [02:39] <Vin_> wouldnt a supersymetrical particle be flawless?
#610 [02:39] <Scott> Because the idiot spilled water on it and then didn't tell me so I kept turning it on.
#611 [02:39] <Gwti> well at 5 am i am going to go to sleep thank you all for your help thus far
#612 [02:39] <Kalgalath> i wasnt suggesting such a thing really existed.. its simply an exaggeration to show that hardware failure is simply a fact of life
#613 [02:39] <Thrae> Wug: Not so much in Dells, but Walmart does carry off-brands like CyberpowerPC and iBUYPOWER which have "Gaming" edition Desktops and modern, high-end video cards.
#614 [02:39] <Wug> no dells though
#615 [02:40] <Scott> I've seen high end Dells at Walmart actually lol.
#616 [02:40] <Scott> Last time I was in that area was to grab a cable modem.
#617 [02:40] <Wug> I wouldnt buy a computer from walmart if it was free
#618 [02:40] <Thrae> Well Dell doesn't really carry high-end video cards outside Alienware except in a few graphics workstations
#619 [02:40] <Wug> it probably comes preloaded with every corporate tracker and botnet ever
#620 [02:40] <Kalgalath> really.. by definition anything you buy off the shelf ANYWHERE is not high end
#621 [02:40] <Kalgalath> it was obsolete before it was put on display
#622 [02:41] <Scott> There's no such thing as a high end surfboard.
#623 [02:41] <Gwti> good night
#624 [02:41] <Thrae> Kalgalath: There's a difference between "high-end" and "modern"
#625 [02:41] <Wug> if I did the first thing I'd do is burn the disk and install clean
#626 [02:41] <Kalgalath> for gaming? the difference is pretty slim
#627 [02:41] <Thrae> But I do change my statement earlier about Walmart -- they're "medium-end to low-end" Budget Gaming Desktops
#628 [02:41] <Wug> Kalgalath: I disagree
#629 [02:41] <Kalgalath> for officework.. yes.. theres fairly significant gap
#630 [02:42] <Kalgalath> threa: AGREED
#631 [02:42] <Wug> modern is like a 4xx or 5xx nforce series or 4xxx or 5xxx radeon
#632 [02:42] <Wug> high end is 580s in sli
#633 [02:42] <Wug> $1500 just got gpus
#634 [02:42] <Wug> just for*
#635 [02:43] <Wug> thats more than my entire computer
#636 [02:43] <Thrae> Wug: Radeon 6xxx series has been out for a while now (at least a year), it's like the 5xx series in Nvidia in that it's not that huge a step up from the previous series
#637 [02:43] <Kalgalath> heh.. i built this whole rig for $1200
#638 [02:44] <Kalgalath> including a g15 keyboard an MX518 mouse and 2 22" monitors
#639 [02:44] <Wug> did I say 4xxx and 5xxx because I meant 5xxx and 6xxx
#640 [02:44] <Wug> Kalgalath: I'm in that boat
#641 [02:44] <Wug> what do you have for a processor
#642 [02:44] <Iridium> is a radeon 5570 any good?
#643 [02:45] <Thrae> Anyway, Alienware is one of the worst when it comes to overpriced gaming hardware
#644 [02:45] <Wug> Iridium: its probably ok
#645 [02:45] <Thrae> Not the worst, but it's up there
#646 [02:45] <Wug> upper meh
#647 [02:45] <Wug> its reasonably modern, but at about the middle of the range
#648 [02:45] <Kalgalath> Im still running each monitor on a dedicated card. primary is run off an nvidia 8400gs, secondary monitor is run on 8200
#649 [02:45] <Iridium> ah ok
#650 [02:45] <Kalgalath> 8200 is onboard video.
#651 [02:46] <Wug> I have a 9800gtx+
#652 [02:46] <Kalgalath> uh.. geez lemme look
#653 [02:46] <Wug> one card, 2 monitors
#654 [02:46] <Thrae> Iridium: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#PCIe_.28HD_5xxx.29 is a good table if you know what those values mean
#655 [02:46] <Kalgalath> AMD Athalon 64 X2 dual core 6400+
#656 [02:46] <Wug> :P
#657 [02:46] <Kalgalath> 3.2 GHz
#658 [02:46] <Wug> Kalgalath: how old is it
#659 [02:47] <Kalgalath> like 2 years+? id have to check my records to give you exact date
#660 [02:47] <Wug> shouldve gone intel man
#661 [02:47] <Thrae> I have a GTX 470, 8800 GS, and 9400 GT in the same computer that used to run 5 monitors (now down to 3), selling the two lesser cards and getting another GTX 470 for 2D Surround with 3 monitors
#662 [02:47] <Kalgalath> psh
#663 [02:47] <Kalgalath> EFF intel
#664 [02:47] <Wug> heh
#665 [02:47] <robothangover> what do I do if I forget the Receipt ID?
#666 [02:47] <Kalgalath> theres nothing that intel does that AMD doesnt
#667 [02:48] <Thrae> robothangover: Can you address the email account you originally used to purchase Minecraft?
#668 [02:48] <Wug> except make good processors >.<
#669 [02:48] <robothangover> @thrae no sorry
#670 [02:48] <Wug> sandy bridge was a triumph
#671 [02:48] <Kalgalath> ...right... if you define thier quality by the mount of TV ads you're paying for when you buy the chip... then sure, intel is better
#672 [02:48] <Wug> I don't have a sandy bridge processor but I do have a first gen i7
#673 [02:48] <robothangover> is minecraft account and email adress hacked
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#675 [02:49] <Kalgalath> performancewise, i havent seen any tests that put AMD any appreciable distance behind or ahead of intel chips for computing power
#676 [02:49] <Wug> Kalgalath: makes you wonder, considering most of the benchmarks you see compare the 1100T to an intel i5
#677 [02:50] <Thrae> Kalgalath: When you go past 3 cores, logical or not, you've mostly gone past what 99% of people need out of their processors. The pipelines Intel add in are very nice on top of that.
#678 [02:50] <Wug> sandy bridge i7 is at the top of the price per performance for the high end bracket
#679 [02:50] <Wug> its a very impressive chi[
#680 [02:50] <Thrae> robothangover: OK, do you have a copy of proof of payment from Moneybookers or Paypal, whichever you used?
#681 [02:50] <Wug> they can overclock to like 4.5GHz on air
#682 [02:50] <Kalgalath> I prefer AMD... always have
#683 [02:51] <Wug> stock even
#684 [02:51] <Thrae> Wug: Oh you know Clock Speeds don't mean very much -- otherwise they'll hit you back with "well the Pentium 4 got great clock speeds didn't it?" ;)
#685 [02:51] <robothangover> i cant write me id in support site
#686 [02:51] <robothangover> i forgot
#687 [02:51] <robothangover> and me account and email is hacked
#688 [02:52] <Thrae> robothangover: Do you have ANY proof of purchase from Moneybookers or Paypal that Mojang can use to verify you were the one who made the payment?
#689 [02:52] <Iridium> did you mean: recursive?
#690 [02:52] <Kalgalath> and to answer your question, i ordered the parts on 3/23/2009
#691 [02:53] <Kalgalath> it has been running steady since, minus some downtime due to a fried power supply
#692 [02:53] <Thrae> robothangover: Mojang needs proof of purchase otherwise that just opens it up to a huge host of hacks. And since they don't handle the credit cards themselves, you'd probably need to talk to Moneybookers or Paypal, whichever you used, and see if you can get a copy of your Receipt ID from them.
#693 [02:54] <Kalgalath> .....im just wishing i was as good with software as hardware atm
#694 [02:54] <Wug> Thrae: dont hit me with that
#695 [02:54] <Kalgalath> cos i still cant get minecraft to gorram work
#696 [02:54] <Wug> the thing is that when you take a chip thats fast at 3.4GHz and clock it up by 30% it gets 30% faster
#697 [02:54] <Thrae> I like letting my desktop go into Sleep. It keeps it refreshed and saves me lots of money!
#698 [02:55] <Wug> Kalgalath: why isnt minecraft working
#699 [02:55] <Kalgalath> how does it save you 'lots' of money?
#700 [02:55] <Wug> any obvious error output
#701 [02:55] <Kalgalath> javaw.exe crashes everytime i try to play
#702 [02:55] <robothangover> @thrae the account owner or credit card holders often do you write in or the number?
#703 [02:55] <Kalgalath> says its nvoglnt.dll error
#704 [02:56] <Kalgalath> but i have done full clean installs of both java and my nvidia drivers TWICE
#705 [02:56] <Thrae> Kalgalath: Letting a 1000W PSU, even at low power usage, on 24/7 costs a good deal more than say 12/7.
#706 [02:56] <Wug> Kalgalath: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/10/17/amd-fx-8150-bulldozer-processor-review.aspx :(
#707 [02:56] <Thrae> Kalgalath: I already have a server in the same room so there's no need to let my power-hungry gaming desktop on 24/7.
#708 [02:57] <Wug> Kalgalath: what os is this
#709 [02:57] <Kalgalath> misconception. modern computers, the power suplpy only works as hard as the current draw demand. it doesnt run at anywhere near full capacity unless the hardware is calling for it
#710 [02:57] <Kalgalath> it extends the hardware life a lot
#711 [02:58] <Wug> Kalgalath: it still takes more power idling for twice as long :P
#712 [02:58] <Kalgalath> XPPro32bit
#713 [02:58] <Thrae> robothangover: The Credit Card Owner's Name OR the Paypal Account used, depending on which was used to buy your copy of Minecraft. That's what it says. We're just volunteers here and I'm reading the same thing you are.
#714 [02:58] <Kalgalath> granted.
#715 [02:58] <Thrae> Kalgalath: Yes, I'm well-aware of that, and that's why I said "even at low power usage".
#716 [02:59] <Kalgalath> ah. fair enough.
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#718 [03:00] <Thrae> Kalgalath: Also it's healthier for the components to get long breaks when they're not being used anyway.
#719 [03:00] <Thrae> If I can squeeze out an extra 1-6 months out of my hardware on my limited income that's great.
#720 [03:00] <Kalgalath> true... but if its really a long break (several hours) its usually better to simply shut down entirely
#721 [03:01] <Kalgalath> heh i donate spare cycles to worldnet
#722 [03:01] * |Kiichan| used to for folding@home
#722 [03:01] <Thrae> Kalgalath: Sleep on my computer is Suspend-To-Disk.
#723 [03:02] <Thrae> The computer uses up like less than 10W in this state.
#724 [03:02] <Kalgalath> and wug... the article you linked seems to suggest the opposite of what you were telling me.
#725 [03:03] <Thrae> Kalgalath: On topic, for your problem with Minecraft, I've had some success getting people on the Nvidia beta drivers. Have you tried those?
#726 [03:03] <Kalgalath> bleh... i have to be to work in 12 hours
#727 [03:03] <Kalgalath> no i havent
#728 [03:03] <Wug> Kalgalath: I don't see how you could possibly spin that as a victory for amd
#729 [03:03] <Kalgalath> though i would wonder how much of a beta driver they could have, considering the driver i updated to is only 2 months old
#730 [03:04] <Thrae> Kalgalath: I personally use modded drivers from xtremesystems.org, gotten better results in both performance and stability for gaming, and right now I'm on .25
#731 [03:04] <Kalgalath> Wug.. i only skimmed it tbh.. i have been up since 9am this morning, eastern time :P
#732 [03:04] <Thrae> Kalgalath: Whoops, make that 285.27
#733 [03:05] <Kalgalath> mostly it was this bit, Wug
#734 [03:05] <Kalgalath> Zambezi is a two billion transistor chip which occupies 315mm2 of silicon real estate. By comparison, Intel's Sandy Bridge is a 995 million transistor chip measuring 216mm2. However, Zambezi comes with 16MB of cache, while Sandy Bridge only packs 9MB (1MB L2 + 8MB L3).
#735 [03:05] <Kalgalath> twice the transistors for half again the size, and almost double the cache
#736 [03:07] <Kalgalath> Thrae that site returns a "500 Internal Server Error" for me.
#737 [03:07] <Kalgalath> verify?
#738 [03:07] <Thrae> Kalgalath: That 8MB figure is wrong...are they using specific processors in this example? Since the L3 Cache for the Core i7 Extreme is 15MB
#739 [03:08] <Thrae> Kalgalath: Yeah, site appears to be down, you can just try the Beta drivers off Nvidia's website or try Guru3D for the XtremeSystems.org driver pack
#740 [03:08] <Kalgalath> http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2011/10/17/amd-fx-8150-bulldozer-processor-review.aspx
#741 [03:08] <Wug> works for me
#742 [03:08] <Kalgalath> its a report all of a day old apparently
#743 [03:09] <Wug> well, bulldozers have been out for like 2 weeks
#744 [03:09] <|Kiichan|> a DAY old?! geez. that info is ancient then.
#745 [03:09] <|Kiichan|> :P
#746 [03:09] <Thrae> Yeah, and technically the Core i7 Extreme is due in about a month
#747 [03:09] <Wug> I find it amusing that the 12 core opteron gets beaten by the 2600k (a quad core with HT)
#748 [03:10] <Wug> especially considering the 2600k is a $300 desktop processor, and the 12 core opteron is a $900 server processor
#749 [03:11] <Iridium> what's HT?
#750 [03:11] <|Kiichan|> hypertransport!
#751 [03:11] <Thrae> Iridium: HyperThreading in this case
#752 [03:11] <|Kiichan|> <.<
#753 [03:11] <Thrae> No one cares about HyperTransport now that Intel has also eliminated the FSB a while ago :)
#754 [03:12] <Wug> and by $900 I mean the 2.4GHz one tested is $1400
#755 [03:13] <Kalgalath> i hope this beta driver works.
#756 [03:14] <Wug> but all in all, the bulldozer gets matched in about half of the benches by the i5 2500k, and beated by the i7 in all but I think one
#757 [03:14] <Kalgalath> i JUST paid for minecraft this morning
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#759 [03:14] <Thrae> Iridium: Basically HyperThreading allows a single processor core to act like 2 "logical" cores when the software supports it. The speed of HT can let a single core work for 150% of its value on average, and anywhere from about 110% to 190% in different tests.
#760 [03:14] <Kalgalath> id hate to have to start trying to get a refund tomorrow >.<
#761 [03:14] <Thrae> Kalgalath: Yeah, especially since there is no refund.
#762 [03:14] <Iridium> that's cool i guess
#763 [03:14] <Wug> Thrae: the tests I have done give a typical yield of about 165%
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#765 [03:15] <Wug> I can do a wprime 1024M in under 300s
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#767 [03:15] <Kalgalath> there would be a refund. i dont pay for goods and or services i dont recieve
#768 [03:15] <Thrae> Wug: I'm going by the average I worked out in my head from reports starting back with early Core arch...they could have improved with Sandy Bridge specifically
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#770 [03:15] <Wug> I'm on a 930 (1st gen)
#771 [03:15] <Wug> overclocked a teeny bit
#772 [03:16] <Thrae> I'm on 920
#773 [03:16] <Wug> to like 3.2
#774 [03:16] <Wug> up from 2.8
#775 [03:17] <Kalgalath> beta driver installing now
#776 [03:17] <Kalgalath> huzzah
#777 [03:17] <Thrae> Kalgalath: I'm just being friendly and letting you know up-front what's on Minecraft's support page, http://www.minecraft.net/support under Payment->Refund. All you can do is submit a technical ticket. "We do not issue refunds for purchased games and/or services."
#778 [03:17] <Kalgalath> thats cool.. i haven't yet recieved my service
#779 [03:18] <Kalgalath> thus, it would be more a breach of contract than anything else
#780 [03:18] <Thrae> Hey don't argue with us...Mojang never talks to us.
#781 [03:18] <Kalgalath> I have been trying to troubleshoot this issue for about 4 hours now, in total
#782 [03:19] <Thrae> I'm just here to play with the bots.
#783 [03:19] <Kalgalath> Im not arguing with you. im just telling you what my response would be :P
#784 [03:19] <|Kiichan|> Thrae: careful. VoxelHead likes it too much sometimes :P
#785 [03:20] <Kalgalath> it looks like a fun game. several of my friends play, and i would like ot join them.. but if after making all reasonable effort on my end to establish service, and submitting a ticket, and i still cannot play.. i am going to have a very serious issue to take up with the owner
#786 [03:20] <Kalgalath> brb need to reboot for driver install
#787 [03:22] <pham> Hello all, I've got a quick question. Would anyone mind helping me out?
#788 [03:23] <Wug> no. is that your only question or was there another one ;)
#789 [03:24] <pham> Ha! So I haven't played since 1.3, and when I tried to start it up, it wouldn't accept my user/pw. I updated it on the Mojang site, but I still can't log in through the game
#790 [03:24] <pham> Should I re-install, and if so, where do I go to do that?
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#792 [03:25] <Wug> download the new launcher
#793 [03:25] <Wug> !client
#794 [03:25] <Wug> ^ pick the one for your os
#795 [03:25] <Kalgalath1> Good news everyone!
#796 [03:25] <pham> Ah, fantastic! Thank you bot!
#797 [03:25] <Thrae> pham: Old launcher doesn't use SSL (HTTPS) that is now required
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#799 [03:25] <Wug> the old launcher stopped working a few weeks ago
#800 [03:25] <Wug> Kalgalath1: its working?
#801 [03:25] <Kalgalath1> bonus points for anyone who read that in professor farnsworths voice
#802 [03:26] <pham> Oh, interesting. Thank you guys
#803 [03:26] * Wug did
#803 [03:26] <Kalgalath1> seems to be, after installing the beta driver
#804 [03:26] <Thrae> Kalgalath1: Yeah, I'm starting to think there's a bug with the latest stable driver or one near that version, old OpenGL functions, and certain chipsets
#805 [03:26] <Wug> alright, I'm going to bed
#806 [03:26] <Wug> I have much the sleepies
#807 [03:27] <Thrae> As I've been getting not a lot, but more than one people with modern Nvidia cards and that error
#808 [03:27] <Kalgalath1> kind of odd that i had to update to the ragged edge of the driver march to get it to work... but hey.. so long as this driver doesnt cause issues with my other games.. whatever.
#809 [03:27] <Kalgalath1> same here
#810 [03:27] <Kalgalath1> mines getting old though.... its only an 8400gs
#811 [03:27] <Wug> so apparently mojang gets to keep scrolls
#812 [03:27] <Wug> bethesda lost
#813 [03:27] <Thrae> Kalgalath1: As someone who used to work in video chipset QA, it happens -- you're recommended NOT to update to the latest driver, stable or not, for this very reason. Not unless you're a gamer who wants to get the very best performance or there's a serious upgrade in the software.
#814 [03:27] <pham> Cool, I'm up and running. Ya'll are fighting the good fight
#815 [03:27] <pham> Goodnight
#816 [03:28] <Wug> they can still appeal and they probably will
#817 [03:28] <Wug> but they lost round 1
#818 [03:28] <Thrae> New drivers, stable or not, ALWAYS come with new bugs
#819 [03:28] <Kalgalath1> whatnow Wug?
#820 [03:28] <Kalgalath1> of course
#821 [03:28] <Kalgalath1> the driver i had previously was over a year old
#822 [03:28] <Wug> Kalgalath1: the whole bethesda's lawyers vs mojang's lawyers
#823 [03:28] <Kalgalath1> so long as its stable and nothing calls for it to be updated i tend to leave it alone
#824 [03:29] <Thrae> Kalgalath1: You know the "Elder Scroll" series, right? A new one's coming out in 11/11/11
#825 [03:29] <Kalgalath1> I have no idea about any of that
#826 [03:29] <Kalgalath1> yeah... skyrim.. i have that on preorder
#827 [03:29] <Wug> skyrim looks sexy
#828 [03:29] <Kalgalath1> oh hells yes
#829 [03:29] <Wug> I may buy it
#830 [03:29] <Kalgalath1> and i have the collectors edition of oblivion
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#832 [03:30] <Thrae> Yeah, from my inside information it's more just Zenimax as the publisher flipping out and being obstinate
#833 [03:30] <Thrae> Not Bethesda the developer, owned by Zenimax
#834 [03:31] <Thrae> Publishers are like 25-50% lawyers
#835 [03:31] <Kalgalath1> so whats going on?
#836 [03:31] <Thrae> Mojang wants to name their new game "Scrolls", a RPG, Zenimax/Bethesda says it'll interfere with their "Elder Scrolls" IP
#837 [03:32] <Thrae> Next Vivendi/Blizzard will retroactively go after "Minecraft" for the "-craft" prefix :D
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#839 [03:33] <Kalgalath1> thats stupid
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#841 [03:33] <Thrae> Yeah, I know the community and no one calls the Elder Scrolls series just "Scrolls"
#842 [03:34] <zero557> hello
#843 [03:34] <zero557> I have a problem with my Minecraft account
#844 [03:34] <zero557> When I go to login
#845 [03:34] <zero557> it says 'Too many failed logins'
#846 [03:34] <zero557> can anyone help?
#847 [03:34] <Thrae> ?? accounts
#848 [03:34] <VoxelHead> accounts: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#849 [03:34] <Kalgalath1> usually they call it by the particular game title, unless they're reffering to the series as a whole, an dthenn they say 'elder scrolls'
#850 [03:35] <zero557> I did that, it doesnt work
#851 [03:35] <Thrae> zero557: Specifically your problem probably isn't account-related. Can you login to http://www.minecraft.net ?
#852 [03:35] <zero557> yes
#853 [03:35] <|Kiichan|> Thrae: from what i read, this isnt entirely about the Scrolls thing, but that Mojang's application for Scolls was basicly covering ANy and Every universal media use of Scrolls.
#854 [03:36] <Wug> zero557: leave it alone and try to login again tomorrow
#855 [03:36] <Thrae> zero557: Are you using the latest launcher?
#856 [03:36] <Thrae> !client
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#858 [03:36] <zero557> yes
#859 [03:36] <zero557> im running 1.8.1
#860 [03:36] <Thrae> zero557: No, I mean re-download the launcher and try again. If that doesn't work, just wait for at least 24 hours.
#861 [03:36] <Wug> Thrae: too many failed logins when in fact there were no failed logins is an issue that occurred rarely in the past but seems to suddenly have become common
#862 [03:37] <Wug> I'm worried about it
#863 [03:37] <Thrae> Wug: Yeah; I saw the topic
#864 [03:37] <zero557> ok
#865 [03:37] <Wug> mollstam mightve broken something
#866 [03:37] <zero557> thanks for the help!
#867 [03:37] <zero557> :D
#868 [03:37] * |Kiichan| shakes fist at mollstam!
#868 [03:37] <|Kiichan|> :P
#869 [03:37] <Thrae> |Kiichan|: But that's just in Sweden, right?
#870 [03:39] <|Kiichan|> Thrae: they applies everywhere. MAYBE it was just mojang's lawer being overzealous...
#871 [03:39] * |Kiichan| is looking for the article
#871 [03:39] <Thrae> In the US I know DC Comics has a very good chance to win a case against someone making a comic called "The Nietzschean Superman"
#872 [03:39] <Thrae> |Kiichan|: Yeah, Sweden courts doesn't have the power to do that, and there's no real "international law" for this
#873 [03:40] <Thrae> Each country handles trademark/copyright differently
#874 [03:41] <Thrae> For instance, if Anime was made in the US and then fansubbed for Japan it would be illegal based on precedent, but the same isn't true of in Japan (in fact, doshinji altogether would be illegal if it was from American products)
#875 [03:42] <Thrae> Very very huge mess, trademarks, patents, and copyrights
#876 [03:43] * |Kiichan| looks for the damned article!!!
#876 [03:43] <Thrae> |Kiichan|: You can write a contact to say anything, doesn't mean it's actually enforceable :)
#877 [03:44] <|Kiichan|> oh. it WAS kotaku :P http://kotaku.com/5846111/mojang-v-bethesda-or-i-hate-it-when-mommy-and-daddy-fight
#878 [03:45] <|Kiichan|> its not that mojang WOULD abuse it... its that they COULD. thats why theyre goign to court.. to prevent other people from getting the idea of making names-too-close-to-our-IP.
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#880 [03:46] <bernard> hej
#881 [03:46] <bernard> jag har problem med minecraft
#882 [03:46] <bernard> kan ni höra mej?
#883 [03:46] <Thrae> bernard: English please
#884 [03:46] <|Kiichan|> bernard: describe your problem as best as possible please :3
#885 [03:47] <bernard> okey w
#886 [03:47] <Thrae> |Kiichan|: Yeah I think that article says it correctly -- Mojang's application is asserting dominion over any media with "Scrolls" in it, not specifically just the video game "Scrolls", and that's just horrendously stupid for a single English word like that. Also, it's a Swedish Court Case, not in some European International Court.
#887 [03:48] <Thrae> So right now they're JUST fighting about the right to do this in Sweden.
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#889 [03:48] <|Kiichan|> ah.
#890 [03:48] <bernard> when i start my minecraft and play in about 5mins its just close down or it says java has stopped to work and something hsr pdd something shows up on my desktop pleas help!
#891 [03:48] <mib_v6aanj> hello
#892 [03:48] <bernard> hello:)
#893 [03:49] <|Kiichan|> bernard: copy the contents of the hs_err_pid file and paste it to www.pastebin.com , click submit, and give us the url it sends you to
#894 [03:49] <mib_v6aanj> is this a minecraft forum or chatroom or what? haha
#895 [03:49] <Thrae> |Kiichan|: It's like how Squaresoft owns trademarks on the name "White Mage", "Black Mage", "Red Mage", "Blue Mage", etc. that needs to be cited whenever they're used.
#896 [03:49] <bernard> klichan ok i should try i be afk 1min or 2 then
#897 [03:49] <|Kiichan|> Thrae: thats why im calling my mages 'Casters'... oops :P forget i said that
#898 [03:50] <bernard> kiichan?
#899 [03:50] <bernard> shall i copy what it says?
#900 [03:51] <Thrae> |Kiichan|: Specifically it's the colour + the name, but that's still pretty darn common. I think TSR owns a bunch of the more common RPG class names!
#901 [03:51] <|Kiichan|> bernard: copy it to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#902 [03:51] <Thrae> bernard: Paste it to www.pastebin.com and give us the link it sends you to
#903 [03:51] <bernard> ok
#904 [03:52] <bernard> theres no link but i paste it and this showed up:# A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x51c36e13, pid=2592, tid=3692 # # JRE version: 6.0_27-b07 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.2-b06 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [nvoglv32.DLL+0x776e13] # # If you w
#905 [03:52] * |Kiichan| bangs head
#905 [03:52] <Chris> ^
#906 [03:52] <|Kiichan|> bernard: update your nvidia drivers.
#907 [03:52] <bernard> how?
#908 [03:53] <|Kiichan|> ??> bernard gpu/nvidia
#909 [03:53] <VoxelHead> bernard: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#910 [03:53] <bernard> Ok
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#912 [03:53] <bernard> what shall i do on that site? tell me what to do and i do it:D
#913 [03:54] <Thrae> bernard: Go to "http://www.geforce.com/Drivers" and click on "Auto Detect and Install"
#914 [03:54] <bernard> ok
#915 [03:54] <|Kiichan|> bernard: if you know what video card you have, select it from the dropdown menus. otherwise use Option 2 to detect your driver for you
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#917 [03:56] <bernard> its downloading right now:D are you sure this is gonnna help me?
#918 [03:56] <bernard> gonna*
#919 [03:56] <|Kiichan|> bernard: it should :3
#920 [03:56] <bernard> ok im happy if it does:)
#921 [03:56] <bernard> its this your job?
#922 [03:56] <Thrae> We are volunteers, bernard.
#923 [03:56] <bernard> ok
#924 [03:57] <bernard> minecraft is a great game:D
#925 [03:58] <|Kiichan|> it is :D SpaceChem is too :P
#926 [03:58] * |Kiichan| lieks both
#926 [03:58] <bernard> spacechem? :D
#927 [03:58] <bernard> it is free?
#928 [03:58] * Thrae not sure about SpaceChem, but likes Terraria
#928 [03:59] <bernard> ok
#929 [03:59] <bernard> ok the download is dobe;D
#930 [03:59] <bernard> done*
#931 [03:59] <|Kiichan|> SpaceChem has a demo. http://spacechemthegame.com/
#932 [03:59] <bernard> ok cool:D
#933 [04:00] <bernard> its install right now
#934 [04:00] <Thrae> Aww, missed that in the last Humble Bundle
#935 [04:00] * |Kiichan| cackles
#935 [04:00] <|Kiichan|> i got the entire bundle :P
#936 [04:01] <|Kiichan|> trauma was good
#937 [04:01] <bernard> haha ok:D
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#939 [04:01] <Thrae> Yeah, I already had Frozen Synapse and just saw it as the "Frozen Synapse Humble Bundle"
#940 [04:01] <bernard> im so glad i came here and asked you guys what to do:D
#941 [04:02] <|Kiichan|> nuuu!!! VLC crashed!! ;_:
#942 [04:02] <Thrae> |Kiichan|: CCCP FTW
#943 [04:02] <bernard> lol
#944 [04:02] <|Kiichan|> cccp?
#945 [04:02] <Thrae> |Kiichan|: Best Windows Codec Pack out there, comes with Media Player Classic Homecinema
#946 [04:02] <bernard> this is not a virus thing right?
#947 [04:03] <|Kiichan|> bernard: its not a virus.
#948 [04:03] <Thrae> bernard: Nvidia makes your graphics card
#949 [04:03] <bernard> good
#950 [04:03] <bernard> ahaa
#951 [04:03] <Thrae> Specifically they make the graphics chipset
#952 [04:03] <bernard> its almost done whit install:)
#953 [04:03] <bernard> ok
#954 [04:03] <Thrae> bernard: If it doesn't ask you to reboot, do it anyway
#955 [04:03] <bernard> ok
#956 [04:04] <bernard> but just as you guys know im not good at computers xD im 13:D
#957 [04:04] <bernard> and noy english either
#958 [04:04] <bernard> not*
#959 [04:05] <|Kiichan|> bernard: your english is good enough for talking :3 much better than my japanese :P
#960 [04:05] <bernard> haha:D anyway its done know can i play minecraft now?
#961 [04:05] <Thrae> bernard: Reboot then try Minecraft
#962 [04:06] <bernard> reboot? aha you meen turn the computer of and then down?
#963 [04:06] <Thrae> bernard: Neustart
#964 [04:07] <bernard> ok but if it doesnt work can i find you guys again?
#965 [04:07] <|Kiichan|> bernard: we'll still be here
#966 [04:07] <Thrae> Yes
#967 [04:07] <Thrae> 3
#968 [04:07] <bernard> yeah ok see you:)
#969 [04:07] <bernard> and thanks for the help so far:d
#970 [04:08] <mib_v6aanj> uh i cant get minecraft to log in multiplayer, it keeps saying bad login
#971 [04:08] <mib_v6aanj> anyone help?
#972 [04:08] <Chris> relog
#973 [04:09] <mib_v6aanj> do you mean jus tlog out and log back in or?
#974 [04:09] <Chris> yep
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#976 [04:09] <Chris> close minecraft and open it again
#977 [04:09] <mib_v6aanj> thansk ill try that
#978 [04:10] <Thrae> mib_v6aanj: Also try downloading the latest launcher or re-downloading it
#979 [04:10] <Thrae> !client
#980 [04:11] <mib_v6aanj> well i only just purchased the game and downloaded the client
#981 [04:11] <mib_v6aanj> and updated it also
#982 [04:11] <Thrae> mib_v6aanj: How long ago did you purchase it?
#983 [04:11] <mib_v6aanj> 2 hours ago
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#985 [04:11] <Thrae> ??> mib_v6aanj payment
#986 [04:11] <VoxelHead> mib_v6aanj: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#987 [04:11] <VoxelHead> mib_v6aanj: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#988 [04:12] <amphibulus> how do i play minecraft if i accidently clicked not allow
#989 [04:12] <amphibulus> not run i mean
#990 [04:12] <Thrae> amphibulus: Easiest way would be to use a different browser
#991 [04:12] <Thrae> Like Firefox -- http://www.getfirefox.com
#992 [04:12] <amphibulus> but i have a mac
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#994 [04:12] <mib_v6aanj> yeah, the thing is though i am logged into the site and it says that i do have premuim status but ill just wait a little longer and see what happens
#995 [04:12] <Thrae> Mac version available too
#996 [04:13] <TacoDelivery> hello?
#997 [04:13] * Thrae waves to TacoDelivery
#997 [04:13] <TacoDelivery> xD
#998 [04:13] <TacoDelivery> can someone help me out?
#999 [04:13] <amphibulus> yer i can use the normal version and i was playing then went to a different server and it say run or not run and i clicked not run now it wont load
#1000 [04:13] <Thrae> Sure, just be specific and paste reports to www.pastebin.com, giving us the link.
#1001 [04:14] <TacoDelivery> okay
#1002 [04:14] <amphibulus> also how do i place blocks if i have a mac mouse
#1003 [04:15] <amphibulus> how do i place blocks with a mac mouse
#1004 [04:15] <Thrae> amphibulus: Try Firefox.
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#1006 [04:18] <Thrae> ??> dont/pm bernard
#1007 [04:18] <Thrae> ??> bernard dont/pm
#1008 [04:18] <VoxelHead> bernard: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1009 [04:19] <bernard> oh
#1010 [04:19] <bernard> ok
#1011 [04:19] <bernard> the blocks getting invisble and it says minecraft running out of memory
#1012 [04:20] <Thrae> bernard: So, blocks are now becoming invisible and it says Minecraft is running out of memory?
#1013 [04:20] <bernard> inivisible*
#1014 [04:20] <TacoDelivery> http://pastebin.com/YqkHrDBb
#1015 [04:20] <bernard> yes
#1016 [04:20] <TacoDelivery> lol?
#1017 [04:20] <TacoDelivery> ow
#1018 [04:20] <TacoDelivery> xD
#1019 [04:20] <Thrae> bernard: What version of Windows?
#1020 [04:20] <bernard> windows 7
#1021 [04:21] <Thrae> bernard: 32-bit or 64-bit?
#1022 [04:21] <bernard> i think its 64
#1023 [04:21] <Thrae> ??> TacoDelivery linux/ubuntu/sun-java
#1024 [04:21] <VoxelHead> TacoDelivery: (linux/ubuntu/sun-java) http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-jre-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
#1025 [04:21] <bernard> what should i do?
#1026 [04:22] <TacoDelivery> thx
#1027 [04:22] <Thrae> bernard: Try downloading and installing this driver -- http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-285.27-beta-driver.html
#1028 [04:22] <bernard> ok
#1029 [04:22] <TacoDelivery> i have Kubuntu 10.10
#1030 [04:22] <TacoDelivery> Ubuntu 10.10 with KDE
#1031 [04:22] <Thrae> TacoDelivery: Same process
#1032 [04:22] <TacoDelivery> okay
#1033 [04:22] <TacoDelivery> thx
#1034 [04:22] <bernard> is the name geforce 285.27 driver?
#1035 [04:23] <Thrae> bernard: Yes
#1036 [04:23] <bernard> ok
#1037 [04:23] <bernard> *downloading*
#1038 [04:23] <bernard> you think it should help?
#1039 [04:23] <Thrae> TacoDelivery: If that doesn't work, make sure you're using the Restricted/Binary video card drivers
#1040 [04:23] <Chris> !check 58.173.224.237:25565
#1041 [04:23] <Thrae> bernard: Yes
#1042 [04:23] <bernard> ok
#1043 [04:24] <bernard> has tacodelivery an other problem?
#1044 [04:24] <TacoDelivery> If I did that, how should I run Minecraft?
#1045 [04:24] <TacoDelivery> Same way?
#1046 [04:24] <Thrae> TacoDelivery: Yes, just make sure you're doing "java -jar minecraft.jar" as the minecraft.jar file is named this and Linux is case-sensitive
#1047 [04:25] <TacoDelivery> okay thx
#1048 [04:25] <Chris> don't forget the xmx and stuff thrae
#1049 [04:25] <TacoDelivery> Same error
#1050 [04:25] <Thrae> Chris: Not necessary
#1051 [04:25] <Chris> really? okay then :P
#1052 [04:25] <bernard> my real name is adam just as you know^^
#1053 [04:25] <Thrae> TacoDelivery: Paste the error to www.pastebin.com again and gimmie the link
#1054 [04:26] <TacoDelivery> okay
#1055 [04:27] <TacoDelivery> http://pastebin.com/xcULfWzm
#1056 [04:27] <TacoDelivery> It's there
#1057 [04:27] <Thrae> TacoDelivery: You're still using OpenJDK. Uninstall it and make sure you only have Sun Java on your system.
#1058 [04:28] <TacoDelivery> how do I uninstall it?
#1059 [04:28] <Thrae> TacoDelivery: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-delete-remove-software-using-apt-get-command/
#1060 [04:28] <Thrae> TacoDelivery: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/add-applications/C/gnome-app-install.html
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#1062 [04:30] <TacoDelivery> Done :D
#1063 [04:30] <bernard> a error showed up but its still installing:O
#1064 [04:30] <bernard> h
#1065 [04:30] <bernard> something with the display
#1066 [04:31] <TacoDelivery> http://pastebin.com/GCEMjUBs
#1067 [04:31] <TacoDelivery> another crash
#1068 [04:31] <Thrae> bernard: Install again after you install it, this time going to "Custom" and then selecting "Clean Install"
#1069 [04:32] <bernard> but i cant cancel:O
#1070 [04:32] <Thrae> TacoDelivery: You STILL don't have Sun Java properly installed. Sorry but I can't help someone who's so bad with Ubuntu. Go to the Freenode network, ##ubuntu
#1071 [04:33] <Thrae> I don't want to help someone who doesn't understand how to install packages.
#1072 [04:33] <Thrae> bernard: Thats fine, just install it again afterwards
#1073 [04:33] <bernard> thrae, its says the install is done shall i install it again?
#1074 [04:33] <Thrae> bernard: Yes, this time doing "Custom" then and clicking the box that says "Clean Install"
#1075 [04:33] <bernard> ok
#1076 [04:33] <self_slaughter> what do you lot think of this??? -> http://pastebin.com/4BTtgDZs
#1077 [04:34] <TacoDelivery> Lol :P
#1078 [04:35] <Thrae> self_slaughter: I think there should be a separate counter that will call the die() function if beers > 20 ;)
#1079 [04:35] <self_slaughter> hahaha
#1080 [04:35] <bernard> shall i select performe a clean istallation?
#1081 [04:35] <Thrae> bernard: Yes, that's what I want you to do
#1082 [04:35] <bernard> ok (Y)
#1083 [04:35] <bernard> *installing*
#1084 [04:36] <Thrae> TacoDelivery: http://webchat.freenode.net/ , ##ubuntu channel
#1085 [04:37] <bernard> my display just got realey zoomed
#1086 [04:39] <bernard> Menade du: det gick inte att verifiera drivrutinens utgivare it could not verify the publisher drivruttinens
#1087 [04:39] <bernard> woops
#1088 [04:39] <bernard> it could not verify the publisher drivruttinens
#1089 [04:40] <bernard> and it says install it anyway or do not install
#1090 [04:40] <Thrae> self_slaughter: http://pastebin.com/Rpb02m9G
#1091 [04:40] <Thrae> bernard: Install anyway
#1092 [04:40] <bernard> OK
#1093 [04:40] <bernard> its that normal
#1094 [04:40] <bernard> ?
#1095 [04:40] <Thrae> bernard: For Beta drivers, yes
#1096 [04:40] <bernard> ok¨'
#1097 [04:41] <self_slaughter> Thrae: hahaha nice one :)
#1098 [04:41] <bernard> is it 100% sure that it gonna work now?
#1099 [04:41] <Thrae> bernard: Nothing is 100% sure in troubleshooting
#1100 [04:41] <Thrae> Especially on Windows
#1101 [04:41] <bernard> ok
#1102 [04:43] <bernard> shall i reboot now?
#1103 [04:43] <Thrae> bernard: Si
#1104 [04:43] <bernard> si? yes?
#1105 [04:43] <Thrae> Yes
#1106 [04:43] <bernard> ok brb:)
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#1111 [04:55] <bernard> thrae?
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#1113 [04:56] <Thrae> bernard: Yes?
#1114 [04:56] <bernard> this time the blocks still there when i have shopped them and the game starts lagging and it says minecraft running out of memory;(
#1115 [04:57] <bernard> you know the game just freeze and stuffs
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#1117 [04:58] <Thrae> bernard: What's your total RAM
#1118 [04:58] <bernard> what do you men?
#1119 [04:59] <bernard> you mean install memory ram?
#1120 [04:59] <Thrae> Yes, memory
#1121 [04:59] <bernard> 4,00 GB it says
#1122 [05:00] <Thrae> bernard: Download and place this batch file in the same location as Minecraft.exe -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft64bit.bat , then run the batch file
#1123 [05:01] <bernard> i have download it but i cant find minecraft.exe do u mean .minecraft?
#1124 [05:01] <bernard> the .minecraft folder
#1125 [05:01] <bernard> ?+
#1126 [05:01] <bernard> ?*
#1127 [05:02] <Thrae> bernard: Minecraft.exe is what you use to launch the game.
#1128 [05:02] <Thrae> bernard: If that's on your desktop then place the batch file on your desktop. Or wherever it's located.
#1129 [05:02] <bernard> ok and where is that?
#1130 [05:02] <Thrae> bernard: Wherever you put it.
#1131 [05:02] <bernard> and is it a folder or something?
#1132 [05:03] <Thrae> No
#1133 [05:04] <Thrae> What do you use to run Minecraft?
#1134 [05:04] <bernard> you mean the game?
#1135 [05:04] <bernard> a icon on my desktop
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#1137 [05:04] <bernard> named minecraft
#1138 [05:05] <Thrae> bernard: OK, on the chance that's Minecraft.exe place the batch file on your desktop
#1139 [05:05] <bernard> ok and then?
#1140 [05:06] <Thrae> bernard: Run the batch file
#1141 [05:06] <bernard> ok
#1142 [05:07] <b0xxy> do chicken farms prevent mobs spawning? if someone has a massive chicken farm will it masout the server limit
#1143 [05:07] <b0xxy> maxout*
#1144 [05:07] <bernard> something called errorlog shows up
#1145 [05:07] <bernard> its a paper
#1146 [05:08] <Thrae> bernard: Copy the results to www.pastebin.com and give us the link
#1147 [05:10] <bernard> hello?:P
#1148 [05:10] <b0xxy> anyoner?
#1149 [05:11] <bernard> 02
#1150 [05:11] <bernard> woops
#1151 [05:11] <Thrae> bernard: Copy the results to www.pastebin.com and give us the link
#1152 [05:11] <bernard> ?
#1153 [05:13] <b0xxy> do chicken farms prevent mobs spawning? if someone has a massive chicken farm will it masout the server limit
#1154 [05:13] <Thrae> bernard: Copy the body of errorlog to http://www.pastebin.com and give us the address after you hit Submit
#1155 [05:13] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#1156 [05:13] <bernard> thrae?
#1157 [05:14] <bernard> hello?
#1158 [05:14] <bernard> neeedinf
#1159 [05:14] <bernard> hellp
#1160 [05:14] <petern> b0xxy, nother specific about chickens...
#1161 [05:14] <petern> *nothing
#1162 [05:15] <bernard> po
#1163 [05:15] <Thrae> bernard: I keep telling you what I want you to do
#1164 [05:15] <Thrae> I can't help you until you follow my instructions
#1165 [05:16] <bernard> dude?
#1166 [05:16] <Thrae> Am I talking to myself
#1167 [05:19] <bernard> thrae? are you still there?
#1168 [05:20] <Thrae> hellloooo can you see what I'm saaaaaying
#1169 [05:20] <bernard> yes now ican
#1170 [05:20] <Thrae> bernard: Copy the body of errorlog to http://www.pastebin.com and give us the address after you hit Submit
#1171 [05:20] <bernard> something called errorlog shows up
#1172 [05:20] <bernard> ok
#1173 [05:21] <bernard> file:///C:/Users/ny%20adam/Desktop/errorlog.txt
#1174 [05:21] <bernard> woops
#1175 [05:21] <Thrae> You'll need to open that up in Notepad
#1176 [05:21] <bernard> aha
#1177 [05:22] <bernard> it says Det g†r inte att hitta s”kv„gen.
#1178 [05:22] <bernard> but thats on my language
#1179 [05:22] <bernard> swedish
#1180 [05:23] <bernard> with out åä and ä
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#1182 [05:23] <Thrae> :j
#1183 [05:23] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#1184 [05:24] <bernard> something happend
#1185 [05:24] <Thrae> bernard: Install "Windows x64" from WugBot's link
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#1187 [05:24] <bernard> ok
#1188 [05:25] <RobinJ24> Bernard's retarded Swedish means Cannot find path
#1189 [05:25] <bernard> jre-6u27 something?
#1190 [05:25] <RobinJ24> if you didnt translate it yet
#1191 [05:25] <Thrae> bernard: "Windows x64"
#1192 [05:25] <bernard> ok
#1193 [05:26] <Thrae> RobinJ24: I can guess
#1194 [05:26] <bernard> its something java thing
#1195 [05:26] <bernard> :P
#1196 [05:27] <bernard> done
#1197 [05:27] <bernard> the java thing is downloaded
#1198 [05:27] <bernard> and installded:)
#1199 [05:28] <Thrae> bernard: So now the batch file should work
#1200 [05:28] <bernard> ok
#1201 [05:28] <bernard> it works!
#1202 [05:29] <Thrae> bernard: Yeah before you didn't have 64-bit Java, now you do, and now it'll use 1GB to 2GB of Memory/RAM
#1203 [05:29] <Thrae> The batch file tells it to use 64-bit Java and use up to 2GB of Memory/RAM
#1204 [05:30] <bernard> eh....
#1205 [05:30] <bernard> so it will work now?
#1206 [05:30] <Thrae> bernard: Minecraft said it was out of memory, this gives it more memory
#1207 [05:31] <bernard> ok
#1208 [05:31] <bernard> but it will not crash?
#1209 [05:31] <Thrae> Only one way to find out -- play
#1210 [05:32] <bernard> i have payed
#1211 [05:32] <bernard> oh :P
#1212 [05:32] <bernard> play
#1213 [05:32] <bernard> yes im playing now and it hasnt crash so far
#1214 [05:33] <bernard> btw are you a good minecraft player?
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#1218 [05:34] <Thrae> Minecraft is mostly about imagination -- no one is "good" or "bad" at it unless they have no imagination
#1219 [05:34] <bernard> ok but do u have any tip on a great map?
#1220 [05:35] <Thrae> bernard: http://www.minecraftworldshare.com/
#1221 [05:35] <bernard> ok
#1222 [05:36] <bernard> it hasnt crashed :D you rules:D
#1223 [05:38] <bernard> thanks man
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#1225 [05:39] * |Kiichan| explodes!!
#1225 [05:41] <bernard> and 1 problem more
#1226 [05:41] <bernard> i downloaded a texture pacj yesterday and i cant open it
#1227 [05:41] <bernard> its named LB photo something
#1228 [05:41] <bernard> its a cool texturepack
#1229 [05:42] <|Kiichan|> bernard: if its a high res texture pack, you need to install a mod for it to work.
#1230 [05:42] <bernard> can u help me out whit that?
#1231 [05:42] <Thrae> ?? mods
#1232 [05:42] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1233 [05:42] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1234 [05:42] <Thrae> bernard: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-181-19pre4update-1016-mcpatcher-hd-fix-220/ , we can just give you the link, not help you with it
#1235 [05:43] <|Kiichan|> LG Photo Realism...
#1236 [05:43] <Thrae> |Kiichan|: Yeah, that's super-HD :D
#1237 [05:43] <|Kiichan|> um... hope you have an insanely good card o.o;
#1238 [05:43] <bernard> eeeh
#1239 [05:44] <bernard> shall i click on the both links?
#1240 [05:44] <|Kiichan|> bernard: just the minecraftforum one
#1241 [05:47] <bernard> it worked:D
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#1244 [05:58] <RobinJ24> I tried a HD texture pack
#1245 [05:58] <RobinJ24> It was weird as hell
#1246 [05:59] <RobinJ24> My friend decided to install it without the patcher and I said "You need a patch.." and he was like "No its fine"
#1247 [05:59] <RobinJ24> all the time
#1248 [05:59] <RobinJ24> and then he got owned when he looked at the water and it said INSTALL LATEST MINECRAFT PATCH
#1249 [06:01] <|Kiichan|> lol
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#1258 [07:24] <Jorre> Hello!
#1259 [07:24] * Chris hugs AuBot
#1259 [07:24] <Chris> :D
#1260 [07:24] <Chris> Hi jorre
#1261 [07:26] <Jorre> Does anyone else get your game ending because it's not getting enough memory?
#1262 [07:26] <Chris> Jorre, what operating system are you on
#1263 [07:28] <Jorre> windows 7 64
#1264 [07:29] <Chris> how much ram do you have?
#1265 [07:30] <Jorre> 8gb
#1266 [07:30] <Chris> okay, gimme a couple seconds...
#1267 [07:30] <Chris> ??< index
#1268 [07:32] <Jorre> ??
#1269 [07:32] <Chris> ??< win/launch
#1270 [07:32] <Chris> ?? Jorre win/launch
#1271 [07:32] <Chris> ??> Jorre win/launch
#1272 [07:32] <VoxelHead> Jorre: (win/launch) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#1273 [07:32] <VoxelHead> Jorre: (win/launch) Windows Launch Script: http://woogly.dnsdojo.net/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft.bat
#1274 [07:33] <Jorre> Thanks!
#1275 [07:33] <Chris> you're welcome
#1276 [07:34] <Jorre> Still haven't found my house.
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#1282 [07:52] <asnoehu> so, minecraft 1.9 beta will not be coming?
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#1285 [08:01] <MineHelp> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
#1286 [08:02] <Chris> minehelp, type !check
#1287 [08:02] <MineHelp> !check craftmore.dyndns-ip.com
#1288 [08:02] <MineHelp> hey chris ;)
#1289 [08:02] <Chris> don't put the domain name in and try again, hey
#1290 [08:02] <MineHelp> !check
#1291 [08:03] <MineHelp> o.o how did he
#1292 [08:03] <MineHelp> lol
#1293 [08:04] <Chris> type !myip
#1294 [08:04] <MineHelp> !myip
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#1296 [08:04] <Chris> uh oh, someone has a dynamic IP
#1297 [08:05] <Chris> I think Dyn has a program you can use to monitor that and it'll change the domain name automatically for you
#1298 [08:05] <MineHelp> o.o?
#1299 [08:05] <Chris> it means it keeps changing
#1300 [08:05] <Chris> your IP that is
#1301 [08:05] <MineHelp> !check
#1302 [08:05] <MineHelp> well it doesn't matter as long as the server works good
#1303 [08:05] <MineHelp> o.o
#1304 [08:05] <MineHelp> xD
#1305 [08:05] <MineHelp> LO
#1306 [08:06] <Chris> if you want players youll need to dig it up and use it
#1307 [08:06] <MineHelp> o.o?
#1308 [08:07] <Chris> lemme see if I can find it
#1309 [08:19] <Jorre> Hm
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#1312 [08:32] <Chris> ??< win/launch
#1313 [08:34] <MineHelp> o.o?
#1314 [08:34] <Chris> ??< help
#1315 [08:34] <MineHelp> is there any minecraft channel for servers?
#1316 [08:34] <Chris> #smp
#1317 [08:34] <Chris> I thnk
#1318 [08:34] <Chris> ??< index
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#1322 [08:41] <guest-0-32840> Hi, can anyone tell me a server with the /give command and worldedit?
#1323 [08:41] <|Kiichan|> guest-0-32840: ask in #smp
#1324 [08:42] <guest-0-32840> Tried it there, didnt get a response. So i thought Id try it here
#1325 [08:43] <|Kiichan|> ?? smp/servers
#1326 [08:43] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1327 [08:43] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1328 [08:45] <guest-0-32840> Sweet thanks!!!
#1329 [08:48] <Jorre> Yeap
#1330 [08:48] <Jorre> House still gone.
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#1334 [08:53] <|Kiichan|> Jorre: house?
#1335 [08:59] <Jorre> Yeah
#1336 [08:59] <Jorre> I build one.
#1337 [08:59] <Jorre> It's very nice.
#1338 [08:59] <Jorre> But I keep losing it.
#1339 [09:04] <|Kiichan|> like.. forgetting where it is?
#1340 [09:04] <|Kiichan|> or you crash and the chunks dont save?
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#1344 [09:12] <Jorre> No, forgetting where it is :P
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#1349 [09:14] <|Kiichan|> Jorre: try moting the coords? sleeping in a bed? or just building a massive tower/water/lava becon?
#1350 [09:15] <Jorre> I made a massive becon :P
#1351 [09:15] <Jorre> If I sleep in a bed will it respawn me there if I die?
#1352 [09:15] <|Kiichan|> yes :P
#1353 [09:16] <|Kiichan|> well... if you dont go an insane distance :P
#1354 [09:16] <|Kiichan|> also make a road from spawn to the house? :D
#1355 [09:17] <Jorre> Found it!
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#1364 [09:35] <Soulkiss> Hey folks
#1365 [09:35] <Chris> hey
#1366 [09:35] <Soulkiss> I just got Minecraft and I have a mouse problem
#1367 [09:35] <|Kiichan|> MWAHAHA~!~!
#1368 [09:36] <|Kiichan|> Soulkiss: linux? mouse keeps poping free of minecraft?
#1369 [09:36] <Soulkiss> when I try to look around, the mouse really just ends up with me looking straight up or straight down and spinning on the spot
#1370 [09:36] <Soulkiss> On Win7
#1371 [09:36] <|Kiichan|> o.o;;;
#1372 [09:37] <|Kiichan|> mouse sensitivity set insanely high?
#1373 [09:38] * |Kiichan| hasnt heard this one yet.
#1373 [09:38] <Soulkiss> nope - tried it insanely high, tryed it ridiculously low
#1374 [09:40] <Soulkiss> Well I couldnt find a simiar problem on the net...
#1375 [09:40] <|Kiichan|> what kind of mouse do you have? touchpad?
#1376 [09:40] <Soulkiss> hmmm now theres a wierdness... - think I have found a fix
#1377 [09:41] <Soulkiss> USB mouse
#1378 [09:41] <Soulkiss> if I come in here and type something the mouse behaves normally for a few seconds
#1379 [09:42] <|Kiichan|> Soulkiss: idea... update LWJGL.
#1380 [09:42] <|Kiichan|> http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#1381 [09:43] <Soulkiss> found it I think - I dont think Java/Minecraft likes co-existing with Synergy+
#1382 [09:43] <|Kiichan|> oooh
#1383 [09:44] <|Kiichan|> might be :P dunno what synergy+ is
#1384 [09:45] <Soulkiss> allows you to control more than one computer with one keyboard and mouse - allows cut and paste between them - even if one is Windows and one is Linux (like I have at work) or here where irs an older XP machine and my Win7 box
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#1386 [09:45] <|Kiichan|> ah yes.. its probably drawing in input from the other computer and bugging out
#1387 [09:46] <Soulkiss> and now, having stopped and started synergy - to see if it would break it again, its all fine...
#1388 [09:47] <Soulkiss> oh well - just a wierdness I guess
#1389 [09:47] <Soulkiss> thanks for the advice tho
#1390 [09:48] <|Kiichan|> no prob :D
#1391 [09:48] <Soulkiss> see ya
#1392 [09:48] <Soulkiss> \quit
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#1398 [10:02] <Snipparn> any one who can help my friend whid minecraft. Every time he logging in on minecraft the screen goes black. He have all the latest updates and running on Windows 7 x64. sorry for bad english :)
#1399 [10:02] <|Kiichan|> Snipparn: he installed any mods or texture packs?
#1400 [10:02] <Snipparn> nopp
#1401 [10:02] <Snipparn> no
#1402 [10:03] <|Kiichan|> ??> Snipparn forceupdate
#1403 [10:03] <VoxelHead> Snipparn: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1404 [10:03] <VoxelHead> Snipparn: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1405 [10:04] <Snipparn> he have alredy done that
#1406 [10:04] <|Kiichan|> Snipparn: and hes updated java an...
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#1408 [10:05] <treggoe> hello , i have problem with my minecraft, i get blackscreen
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#1410 [10:06] <treggoe> i have tried deleting minecraft folder in appdata and redownload via browser
#1411 [10:06] <|Kiichan|> treggoe: have you updated java and your video drivers?
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#1413 [10:06] <treggoe> yeh i have
#1414 [10:06] <treggoe> im running windows 7 (64
#1415 [10:06] <treggoe> )
#1416 [10:07] <treggoe> ive tried reinstall java (32) and java(64)
#1417 [10:07] <treggoe> and tried just with one of them
#1418 [10:07] <treggoe> and both
#1419 [10:08] <treggoe> when i try downloading files with the client i get cannot connect to minecraft.net
#1420 [10:08] <treggoe> and when i borrow a friends bin file and client it i get blackscreen after logging in
#1421 [10:08] <|Kiichan|> treggoe: ok for the cant connect. what does http://login.minecraft.net say to you?
#1422 [10:09] <treggoe> bad login
#1423 [10:09] <|Kiichan|> ok thats good.
#1424 [10:09] <treggoe> when i click the link
#1425 [10:09] <treggoe> okay
#1426 [10:10] <|Kiichan|> treggoe: have you been able to connect to minecraft on that comp before?
#1427 [10:10] <treggoe> no its a completely new computer
#1428 [10:10] <|Kiichan|> treggoe: does your windows username have an ! in it?
#1429 [10:10] <treggoe> ill check
#1430 [10:10] <treggoe> yeh
#1431 [10:10] <treggoe> is that the problem?
#1432 [10:11] * Grim_Reaper feeds |Kiichan| obsidian
#1432 [10:11] <|Kiichan|> treggoe: ok the blackscreen is probably because you dont have all the files properly. and java doesnt like windows usernames with !s
#1433 [10:11] <|Kiichan|> ??> treggoe !
#1434 [10:11] <VoxelHead> treggoe: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#1435 [10:11] <VoxelHead> treggoe: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#1436 [10:12] <|Kiichan|> treggoe: other option is to make another windows user without special characters in the name
#1437 [10:12] <|Kiichan|> treggoe: just renaming the current user DOES NOT work.
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#1439 [10:12] <|Kiichan|> Grim_Reaper: why you feeding me obsidian? :P
#1440 [10:13] <Grim_Reaper> I thought you might like it :o
#1441 [10:13] * Grim_Reaper chews on some bedrock..
#1441 [10:13] * Chris noms on a cookie
#1441 [10:13] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#1442 [10:13] <treggoe> maan ure a mc hero
#1443 [10:13] <|Kiichan|> :D
#1444 [10:13] <treggoe> :D
#1445 [10:13] <treggoe> it works now
#1446 [10:14] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#1447 [10:14] * Grim_Reaper claps
#1447 [10:14] <treggoe> next time i reinstall my comp i wont use "!" and it will work right away?
#1448 [10:14] <|Kiichan|> treggoe: yes :3
#1449 [10:15] <treggoe> Okay, thank you, ive been trying with different solloutions for hours and u just fixed it in 1 min
#1450 [10:15] <treggoe> lol
#1451 [10:15] <treggoe> :D
#1452 [10:16] <treggoe> Thanks for the help, im off playing now:D
#1453 [10:16] <|Kiichan|> have fun and watch out for enderdragons!
#1454 [10:16] <|Kiichan|> :P
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#1456 [10:18] <RVDelta> Hey can anyone lend me a hand with a video driver problem I'm having?
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#1458 [10:19] <|Kiichan|> RVDelta: what problem? o.o;
#1459 [10:19] <RVDelta> well it won't run... let me elaborate
#1460 [10:20] <RVDelta> I dl'ed the game sometime last summer, not sure what version
#1461 [10:20] <RVDelta> it played no problem
#1462 [10:20] <RVDelta> I just updated to 1.8.1, and now I can't play it
#1463 [10:20] <RVDelta> It gives me a video card read error
#1464 [10:21] <RVDelta> says that I need to update drivers; I've tried this
#1465 [10:21] <RVDelta> I've changed nothing about my system
#1466 [10:21] <|Kiichan|> RVDelta: you dont happen to be on mac 10.5.8 ... od you?
#1467 [10:21] <RVDelta> Nope, old school MS XP
#1468 [10:22] <|Kiichan|> ok. 1.8 upped opengl requirements to gl1.3 it might be that your card doesnt support it
#1469 [10:22] <RVDelta> Well shoot
#1470 [10:22] <|Kiichan|> 1.9 shoudl undo it
#1471 [10:22] <|Kiichan|> or atleast drop it back from 1.3
#1472 [10:22] <RVDelta> Hmm.. I tried the pre-release of 1.9 without luck
#1473 [10:22] <|Kiichan|> there IS a mod to fix it
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#1475 [10:23] <|Kiichan|> :/
#1476 [10:23] <RVDelta> will the official release be alright?
#1477 [10:23] <|Kiichan|> RVDelta: you havent played in awhile.. you went from alpha?
#1478 [10:24] <RVDelta> well the circumstances were a little strange, i must admit. I was playing a beta version, but it would only run if I played it streamed via mc.net
#1479 [10:24] <RVDelta> dl'd version would never run
#1480 [10:24] <RVDelta> it's been maybe 2 months since i've payed
#1481 [10:25] <|Kiichan|> RVDelta: try doing the client again. we might beable to get it working.
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#1483 [10:25] <RVDelta> hmm
#1484 [10:26] <RVDelta> nope, no luck with the in browser. same error message referencing vidcard drivers
#1485 [10:27] <|Kiichan|> RVDelta: if you played two months ago then your videocard might just be on the edge of playability
#1486 [10:28] <|Kiichan|> RVDelta: check for updates to the drivers... otherwise i have no idea besides buying a new videocard or computer :P
#1487 [10:28] <RVDelta> lol, the fact that I actually am considering buying a new comp for minecraft is insane....
#1488 [10:28] <RVDelta> well shoot
#1489 [10:28] <RVDelta> You don't think they'll dial down requirements again?
#1490 [10:29] <|Kiichan|> if your computer is THAT old then you probably need a new one :P
#1491 [10:29] <RVDelta> 4 years is borderline ancient in comp terms, i suppose
#1492 [10:29] <|Kiichan|> and theyre going to freeze the code and optimize it... but dont think that will reduce opengl requirements
#1493 [10:29] * |Kiichan| whistles whiel on a comp built in 2006?
#1493 [10:30] <|Kiichan|> ive upgraded videocard.. but that was for rift :P
#1494 [10:30] <RVDelta> lol
#1495 [10:30] <|Kiichan|> fairly sure my 8800 gtx coudl run it :P
#1496 [10:30] <RVDelta> well shoot
#1497 [10:31] <|Kiichan|> and 4 years old.. gl probs... you have intel video dont you :P
#1498 [10:31] <RVDelta> yup
#1499 [10:31] <RVDelta> 850 series or something
#1500 [10:31] <RVDelta> stock p.o.s
#1501 [10:31] <|Kiichan|> yeah. intel sucks for opengl support.
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#1503 [10:32] <RVDelta> well so it goes. I'll just have to sneak in mc sessions on roommate's
#1504 [10:32] <RVDelta> thanks for your help mate
#1505 [10:32] <|Kiichan|> 5 didgit model?
#1506 [10:32] <RVDelta> uhhh
#1507 [10:32] <RVDelta> 2sec
#1508 [10:32] <self_slaughter> actually i think intel finally brought out new drivers on windows update a week or so ago
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#1510 [10:33] <self_slaughter> maybe my old mans compute rmight be able to run minecraft again :)
#1511 [10:33] <|Kiichan|> self_slaughter: windows update drivwers DO NOT contain opengl.
#1512 [10:33] <|Kiichan|> infact.. its just good practice to not update your drivers through windows update
#1513 [10:34] <self_slaughter> i'm sick of updating my video drivers... stupid radeons
#1514 [10:34] <self_slaughter> every month a new driver, every week another cap to install... what a friggin joke
#1515 [10:34] <RVDelta> I'm running intel mobile express 945 family chipset
#1516 [10:34] * |Kiichan| only updates when the mood strikes :P
#1516 [10:35] * self_slaughter is running crossfire and keeps hoping an update will stop some games from flickering whenever theres some flash form of dynamic light around
#1516 [10:35] * |Kiichan| waits for intel downloads site :/
#1516 [10:36] <RVDelta> I'm up to date.. I confirmed I had the latest version, then dl'ed just to be sure
#1517 [10:36] <|Kiichan|> 2/28/2008?
#1518 [10:36] <RVDelta> I believe?
#1519 [10:37] <|Kiichan|> that should work :/ atleast it did before 1.8
#1520 [10:37] <RVDelta> Argh!
#1521 [10:37] <RVDelta> so does that mean I will be able to play after 1.9?
#1522 [10:38] <|Kiichan|> RVDelta: try this...
#1523 [10:38] <|Kiichan|> ??> RVDelta mac/10.5.8
#1524 [10:38] <VoxelHead> RVDelta: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#1525 [10:38] <VoxelHead> RVDelta: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#1526 [10:38] <|Kiichan|> see if it works with the 'fix'
#1527 [10:39] <self_slaughter> if not try the spoutcraft client
#1528 [10:39] <RVDelta> soo even though im not on mac os?
#1529 [10:39] <self_slaughter> i had all sorts of problems with my old mans laptop and intel graphics with minecraft, yet spoutcraft managed to run fine
#1530 [10:39] <|Kiichan|> RVDelta: that just lowers the gl requirements
#1531 [10:39] <RVDelta> !
#1532 [10:39] <RVDelta> excellent I've give it a shot
#1533 [10:40] <RVDelta> You guys are saints
#1534 [10:40] <RVDelta> or devils, sustaining my addiciton to this game and all...
#1535 [10:41] <|Kiichan|> RVDelta: i can adict you to SpaceChem too if you want :P
#1536 [10:41] <RVDelta> no no, my academics cannot sustain another addiction...
#1537 [10:41] <self_slaughter> spacechem worth a play?
#1538 [10:41] <self_slaughter> i got it just cuz it was in the humble bundle
#1539 [10:42] <|Kiichan|> self_slaughter: if you like driving yourself insane with chemical asembly puzzles
#1540 [10:42] <self_slaughter> hmm, nah i just like watching things bleed/blowup
#1541 [10:42] <Morrolan> self_slaughter: It's nice and all, but it makes me quit quite often. ;)
#1542 [10:42] <|Kiichan|> yes.. i ragequit and run through here screaming :P
#1543 [10:43] <self_slaughter> lol@morrolan, i think i have enough frustration in my life atm
#1544 [10:43] <Morrolan> Then you'd be better off not trying it out. ;)
#1545 [10:43] * |Kiichan| grumbles about water to phosphoric acid...
#1545 [10:46] * |Kiichan| is compiling a list of Joke OSs for the /os alias :P
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#1548 [10:50] <Morrolan> !paid lethalzone
#1549 [10:50] <Morrolan> thanks AuBot. :)
#1550 [10:50] <Jorre> Hm, I'm finding it hard to create farmland...
#1551 [10:50] <Morrolan> There has to be a water source nearby, else it'll revert back to dirt after a while.
#1552 [10:50] <Jorre> I'm probably doing it wrong, just swinging my hoe at the dirt.
#1553 [10:51] <Jorre> I see
#1554 [10:51] <|Kiichan|> Jorre: rightclick.
#1555 [10:51] <RVDelta> Whoat.
#1556 [10:51] <Jorre> Ah.
#1557 [10:51] <Jorre> Rightclicking.
#1558 [10:51] <|Kiichan|> Jorre: and SNEAK when walking on it!
#1559 [10:51] <Jorre> I always do.
#1560 [10:52] <RVDelta> Is there a pc description vid on the web for dialing down the opengl requirements? The guy does a step that doesn't translate..
#1561 [10:52] <RVDelta> or perhaps my noob is showing and im just missing somehting
#1562 [10:53] <RVDelta> How do I "open" the jar file?
#1563 [10:53] <RVDelta> so I can edit it
#1564 [10:53] <|Kiichan|> RVDelta: winrar or 7zip
#1565 [10:53] <Jorre> There, done it.
#1566 [10:53] <Morrolan> Uhm, with a archive manager like winrar or 7zip
#1567 [10:53] <RVDelta> sonnova
#1568 [10:53] <Jorre> Now to get some water to my rooftop :P
#1569 [10:53] <Morrolan> :D
#1570 [10:55] * |Kiichan| alters /os a bit more....
#1570 [10:55] <|Kiichan|> Morrolan: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, Copland OS Enterprise, or Copland OS Enterprise?
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#1572 [10:55] <|Kiichan|> blah!
#1573 [10:56] <Morrolan> Windows 7.
#1574 [10:56] <|Kiichan|> :P
#1575 [10:56] <|Kiichan|> mirc's random sucks
#1576 [10:56] <Morrolan> Hah, you've got a shortcut for this? :P
#1577 [10:56] <Morrolan> Copland OS Enterprise? Hah, if you find someone using that one I'll give you a cookie. :P
#1578 [10:57] <Morrolan> Someone who comes here for help using that one*
#1579 [10:57] <|Kiichan|> ill be askign them how Lain is :P
#1580 [11:01] <Chris> can you use lain's commands in this channel?
#1581 [11:02] <Chris> .lain
#1582 [11:02] <Chris> guess not...
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#1586 [11:05] * |Kiichan| has sufficiently flooded screen with /os tests and is happy with it working without doubling now :D
#1586 [11:06] <curby24> can someone help plz lol i keep gettin black screen of death :'(
#1587 [11:06] <|Kiichan|> curby24: any mods installed?
#1588 [11:06] <curby24> nope i bought it a while ago n have only just managed to play i log in and then death -_-
#1589 [11:07] <curby24> java is fully updated i checked that first :)
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#1591 [11:07] <|Kiichan|> curby24: video drivers?
#1592 [11:07] <curby24> all good i think
#1593 [11:08] <curby24> i play alot of online games an they all work fine its just minecraft that fails me
#1594 [11:08] <|Kiichan|> curby24: try updating them anyway. minecraft uses opengl and most other games use directx
#1595 [11:09] <curby24> ok ty il give it a go :)
#1596 [11:09] <RVDelta> Hmm
#1597 [11:09] <RVDelta> well i've tried the mod
#1598 [11:09] <RVDelta> no luck
#1599 [11:10] <RVDelta> just black screen
#1600 [11:10] <|Kiichan|> RVDelta: black screen diffeent from 'update drivers!'
#1601 [11:11] <|Kiichan|> did you delete meta-inf?
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#1603 [11:12] <RVDelta> yeap and yeap
#1604 [11:12] <RVDelta> reading down comments seems other have the same issue
#1605 [11:12] <RVDelta> if I right click on the minecraft.exe file, theres still a meta-inf file. Assuming that's not to be deleted?
#1606 [11:13] <|Kiichan|> you edit the jar, not the exe
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#1608 [11:13] <ninjajoe24> Hey
#1609 [11:14] <ninjajoe24> I need help
#1610 [11:14] <Chris> mmhm?
#1611 [11:14] <Sinistrahd> whoa, a mibbit user that knows how to use /nick... How can we help you, ninjajoe24?
#1612 [11:14] <Chris> hahaha
#1613 [11:14] <self_slaughter> :)))
#1614 [11:14] <RVDelta> yeah i edited the jar to no avail
#1615 [11:14] <ninjajoe24> in the past day my minecraft has been saying cannot connect to minecraft whe ni try to login and now when i try it says "Too many logins" do you know a fix?
#1616 [11:15] <RVDelta> still poking around the web for other solutions
#1617 [11:15] <self_slaughter> RVDelta: try the spoutcraft client, worked on my old boys machine
#1618 [11:15] <ninjajoe24> Ok ill try that thanks :)
#1619 [11:16] <self_slaughter> ninjajoe24: that was to RVDelta....
#1620 [11:16] <Sinistrahd> ninjajoe24 pay attention to the name we say at the beginning of each sentence :P
#1621 [11:16] <Sinistrahd> I spoke to soon on the /nick thing
#1622 [11:16] <Sinistrahd> ninjajoe is this your post? > http://www.planetminecraft.com/forums/got-the-error-too-many-failed-logins-and-loss-t22993.html
#1623 [11:17] <ninjajoe24> Nope i didnt and oh yeah i didnt see them names XD
#1624 [11:18] <Sinistrahd> Ok ninjajoe try going on the website and changing your password, see if maybe that works?
#1625 [11:18] <ninjajoe24> I have already tried that
#1626 [11:18] <Sinistrahd> Ninjajoe: alright. So it lets you log into the website just fine?
#1627 [11:19] <ninjajoe24> Yeah
#1628 [11:19] <Sinistrahd> Ninjajoe have you tried reinstalling minecraft yet?
#1629 [11:19] <ninjajoe24> No
#1630 [11:19] <ninjajoe24> I'll try
#1631 [11:19] <Sinistrahd> Ninjajoe ok what OS are you on?
#1632 [11:20] <ninjajoe24> Windows 7 home premium 64-bit
#1633 [11:20] <Sinistrahd> ??> ninjajoe24 win/reinst/bat
#1634 [11:20] <VoxelHead> ninjajoe24: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1635 [11:20] <VoxelHead> ninjajoe24: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1636 [11:21] <Sinistrahd> ninjajoe24 that batch file is a lot easier than doing it manually
#1637 [11:21] <ninjajoe24> Ok thanks
#1638 [11:21] <Chris> sinistrahd, do you know who to contact about the broken link in ?? win/launch?
#1639 [11:21] <self_slaughter> and it leaves your saves/stats intact :) nice 1
#1640 [11:21] <Sinistrahd> well, xales runs voxelhead I think
#1641 [11:21] <ninjajoe24> Nope
#1642 [11:21] <ninjajoe24> now i cant play offline :/
#1643 [11:21] <Sinistrahd> Chris I'd just join ##voxelhead and post that the link is broken there
#1644 [11:22] <RVDelta> Well I'm giving up for today. Thanks for the help, gents
#1645 [11:22] <Chris> okay
#1646 [11:22] <Sinistrahd> ninjajoe24 what's your username on minecraft?
#1647 [11:22] <ninjajoe24> ninjajoe24 XD
#1648 [11:22] <self_slaughter> *gasp*!!!
#1649 [11:23] <ninjajoe24> ?
#1650 [11:23] * self_slaughter falls over with shock
#1650 [11:23] <Sinistrahd> !paid Ninemmtylenol
#1651 [11:23] <Sinistrahd> oops
#1652 [11:23] <Sinistrahd> !paid ninjajoe24
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#1654 [11:23] <Sinistrahd> ok this is odd so far
#1655 [11:23] <ninjajoe24> Why is it odd?
#1656 [11:23] <Sinistrahd> ah ok, so minecraft can't download game files even
#1657 [11:24] <Sinistrahd> so you must have a firewall, router setting, or security program blocking it
#1658 [11:24] <ninjajoe24> Nope when i click login it says login failed now not Too many logins
#1659 [11:24] <ninjajoe24> I have AVG in game mode will that stop it?
#1660 [11:24] <Sinistrahd> dunno, I got rid of AVG a couple years ago, so don't know all their new modes and what not
#1661 [11:25] <ninjajoe24> Ok
#1662 [11:25] <Sinistrahd> I'd recommend trying to disable any security software one thing at a time and trying to log in, then turn the stuff back on until you find which one blocks it
#1663 [11:25] <Sinistrahd> once you figure out what's blocking it, look into setting up an exception for minecraft
#1664 [11:26] <ninjajoe24> I think i only have AVG on
#1665 [11:26] <Sinistrahd> don't forget the windows firewall
#1666 [11:26] <ninjajoe24> oh yeah XD
#1667 [11:26] <self_slaughter> it never forgets you :)
#1668 [11:26] <Sinistrahd> I doubt it'd suddenly start blocking mc out of the blue though
#1669 [11:26] <Sinistrahd> mine never has
#1670 [11:26] <ninjajoe24> but
#1671 [11:26] <ninjajoe24> when my dad comes on he blocks whatever he can
#1672 [11:27] <ninjajoe24> so he could of set it to that
#1673 [11:27] <Sinistrahd> ah, paranoia of the elders
#1674 [11:27] <TheNoodle> ...
#1675 [11:27] <self_slaughter> lol
#1676 [11:27] <ninjajoe24> Yup
#1677 [11:27] <self_slaughter> if i cant use my computer, it cant break.... *ding!*
#1678 [11:27] <Sinistrahd> well I'd consult with him too then
#1679 [11:27] <self_slaughter> oh crap i broke it
#1680 [11:28] <Sinistrahd> show him a few youtube vids of minecraft so he knows it's not a gateway to a life of crime, booze, and drugs
#1681 [11:28] <ninjajoe24> oh, my windows firewall is off
#1682 [11:28] <ninjajoe24> Lol yeah
#1683 [11:28] <Wug> ninjajoe24: too many failed logins happens when you ... its pretty self explanatory actually
#1684 [11:29] <self_slaughter> i think i should of got my son a bong instead of minecraft
#1685 [11:29] <Sinistrahd> does your version of avg have its own firewall then? I'd guess so if he turned the Win Firewall off
#1686 [11:29] <Wug> try waiting a day or two and trying again
#1687 [11:29] <Sinistrahd> Wug then why can he log into the site?
#1688 [11:29] <Wug> in the mean time, you should still be able to use the site
#1689 [11:29] <ninjajoe24> Hmm it started yesterday
#1690 [11:29] <Wug> which doesn't login the same way and is thus immune to the failed login issue
#1691 [11:29] <Sinistrahd> ah
#1692 [11:30] <Wug> if it doesnt fix itself by tomorrow, come back
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#1694 [11:30] <Sinistrahd> ninjajoe24 once you log in through the site and play in the browser your offline mode should work again too
#1695 [11:30] <ninjajoe24> Ok i will thanks for helping
#1696 [11:30] <ninjajoe24> i cant play in browser
#1697 [11:30] <Sinistrahd> since it will redownload the game files
#1698 [11:31] <Sinistrahd> why not?
#1699 [11:31] <ninjajoe24> Not sure it loads and then i get a black screen
#1700 [11:31] <Sinistrahd> wug?
#1701 [11:31] <Wug> Sinistrahd: ??
#1702 [11:31] <Sinistrahd> he followed the win/reinst/bat already and it change the too many failed logins to just a failed to login by the way
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#1704 [11:32] <Morrolan> Any special characters in the password?
#1705 [11:32] <Morrolan> Also, I take it he is sure that the pw is correct?
#1706 [11:32] <Wug> you're sure your password's right?
#1707 [11:32] <ninjajoe24> Yeah
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#1709 [11:33] <Wug> youll be able to play offline after playing once in browser
#1710 [11:33] <ninjajoe24> im gonna turn of AVG and restart my computer see if that works brb
#1711 [11:33] <Sinistrahd> he couldn't play in browser either
#1712 [11:33] <ninjajoe24> brb
#1713 [11:35] <Sinistrahd> why did notch just tweet that there's a boss fight? MC can't have bosses...
#1714 [11:35] <Sinistrahd> is he trying to make a 3d terraria now?
#1715 [11:35] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Sinistrahd: it will have bosses in strongholds :P
#1716 [11:36] <Chris> oh god... what do strongholds look like anyway?
#1717 [11:36] <|Kiikun|Janus|> strongholds = stone brick
#1718 [11:37] <Chris> I've never come across one... *looks it up on the wiki*
#1719 [11:37] <|Kiikun|Janus|> they burried and hardn to find :P
#1720 [11:37] <|Kiikun|Janus|> only 3 in world
#1721 [11:37] <Chris> oh jeez xD
#1722 [11:37] <self_slaughter> in 1.9pre3 there was giant glass towers above them to mark them out
#1723 [11:37] <self_slaughter> in 1.9pre4 you have to throw ender thingys around and see which way they float
#1724 [11:38] <|Kiikun|Janus|> debug towers :P
#1725 [11:39] <self_slaughter> it'll be good to see what strongholds look like once they fix the bugs
#1726 [11:39] <|Kiikun|Janus|> strongholds are full of bugs :P silverfish spawner ensures it :P
#1727 [11:39] <self_slaughter> half the time theres a abonded mineshaft running through a ravine running into the stronghold... random shit floating everywhere lol
#1728 [11:40] <self_slaughter> i was gunna use worldedit to make my entire church out of silverfish spawners just to see what would happen :)
#1729 [11:40] <Morrolan> "You broke the house of god, now die!"
#1730 [11:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> someone breaks one and then no more church :P
#1731 [11:40] <Morrolan> Oh, yea, that too. ;)
#1732 [11:40] <self_slaughter> yeah it'd look cool but
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#1734 [11:41] <|Kiikun|Janus|> even better if roof is a sandtrap
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#1736 [11:42] <self_slaughter> i wonder if worldguard would rebuild my church after the silverfish have spawned if it was protected
#1737 [11:42] <Grim_Reaper> Quick question about 1.9 pre 4. Does anybody know if endereyes are kinda bugged? Cause I tried using one to find a strong hold and when it finally sinks down to a specific spot, there aint no sign of any stronghold :o
#1738 [11:42] <self_slaughter> could just make for a nice infinite loop of destruction should anone dare defile my church
#1739 [11:43] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper: Did you try digging down there?
#1740 [11:43] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#1741 [11:43] <Grim_Reaper> I found a cave o.o
#1742 [11:43] <Grim_Reaper> Then when I used the ender eye again
#1743 [11:43] <Grim_Reaper> It went up from where I dug down lol
#1744 [11:43] <Morrolan> Heh, ok. In this case - no clue.
#1745 [11:43] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe I should try digging down more o.o
#1746 [11:45] <self_slaughter> i found they normally stop dead in the center of the stair case in the stronghold
#1747 [11:45] <self_slaughter> but in one case i was standing above a stronghold and the ender eyes wanted to to walk miles of in search of another for some reason lol
#1748 [11:46] <Grim_Reaper> lol
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#1751 [11:48] <Grim_Reaper> Darn nothing
#1752 [11:48] <self_slaughter> did u gen that world before 1.9pre4?
#1753 [11:50] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah Im guessing thats why :p
#1754 [11:50] <self_slaughter> yeah i think that bugs it out
#1755 [11:51] <self_slaughter> when the eyes sent me off on a mission when i was already in a stronghold was on a 1.9pre3 map
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#1758 [11:51] <Grim_Reaper> xD
#1759 [11:51] <ninjajoe24> It's working :)
#1760 [11:51] <ninjajoe24> Thanks
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#1764 [12:13] <mib_2h7ndc> hello
#1765 [12:13] <mib_2h7ndc> i need some help
#1766 [12:14] <TheNoodle> That's why you're here, what's up?
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#1768 [12:14] <goofy9754> Hello
#1769 [12:15] <goofy9754> Please help me
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#1771 [12:15] <TheNoodle> What's your problem goofy?
#1772 [12:15] <goofy9754> Too Many Failed login
#1773 [12:15] <goofy9754> weit..
#1774 [12:15] <goofy9754> Wait...
#1775 [12:16] <goofy9754> http://www.babelwith.me/CtHrm
#1776 [12:16] <goofy9754> Go here pls
#1777 [12:17] <goofy9754> I speak polish. This is translate page
#1778 [12:17] <goldie> i never received mine craft and it was paid for on my paypal account dated Aug 12 2011. have sent many e mails
#1779 [12:18] <goofy9754> Please visit this website
#1780 [12:18] <TheNoodle> goldie, what username did you use?
#1781 [12:18] <TheNoodle> Goofy, I'm there.
#1782 [12:18] <TheNoodle> I said 'well this is interesting'
#1783 [12:19] <goldie> goldielocks1k@ hotmail.comId 10007360H5632
#1784 [12:20] <TheNoodle> I need the name of the account you used, not the email address.
#1785 [12:20] <Chris> goldie, where'd you buy it from?
#1786 [12:21] <goldie> i just ordered it on line and do not have a user name. trying to find out how to get this resolved.
#1787 [12:21] <goldie> support@mojaang.com
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#1789 [12:22] <Chris> goldie, which website
#1790 [12:22] <TheNoodle> did you buy it at http://minecraft.net ?
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#1792 [12:22] <goldie> mojangab
#1793 [12:23] <Sardonicus> Hi TheNoodle, hi Grim_Reaper!
#1794 [12:23] <goldie> yes minecraft.net
#1795 [12:23] <TheNoodle> hey Sardonicus!
#1796 [12:23] <curby24> im still having no joy fixin this black screen problem :'(
#1797 [12:24] <curby24> hewp me lol
#1798 [12:24] <goldie> I ordered it for my grandson. i am not smart with computers
#1799 [12:25] <curby24> haha me neither hence the problem xD
#1800 [12:25] <self_slaughter> night all
#1801 [12:26] <curby24> apparently my drivers are all up to date n java is to :( i dunno whats crackin off whith this thing xD
#1802 [12:26] <curby24> can anyone help? plz
#1803 [12:27] <curby24> is there anybody out theeeeeeere
#1804 [12:27] <Sardonicus> no
#1805 [12:27] <Sardonicus> :D
#1806 [12:27] <curby24> :'(
#1807 [12:27] <curby24> xD
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#1810 [12:29] <curby24> help me lol everything is apparently up to date, i can log in to mincraft then i get a flash of a loading screen then black screen with no errors just black
#1811 [12:29] <goldie> thanks anyway. not resolved again
#1812 [12:29] <Chris> goldie
#1813 [12:29] <Chris> try at http://www.minecraft.net/support
#1814 [12:30] <goldie> I did try them and have sent many e mails which they always send the same note to check in to it
#1815 [12:31] <goldie> this has been going on since aug 12
#1816 [12:31] <Chris> what username did you sign up with before buying the game?
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#1818 [12:33] <goldie> i guess my grandson gave a user name so maybe have to ask him that information. he is 11 and knows more than me on the computer. thanks Chris maybe that will help
#1819 [12:33] <Chris> how can I ask him?
#1820 [12:34] <goldie> i only have him every other weekend and don't know his e mail or any of that information
#1821 [12:35] <curby24> any ideas on how to fix my black screen problem? :S
#1822 [12:36] <Ryladine> curby24: What OS?
#1823 [12:37] <curby24> whats os lol speak noob or just general tard i nderstand either
#1824 [12:37] <Ryladine> curby24: Windows, MAC
#1825 [12:37] <curby24> windows 7 lol
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#1827 [12:37] <Ryladine> curby24: Have you tried installing any mods recently?
#1828 [12:37] <shiding> Hey?
#1829 [12:37] <Ryladine> Hello.
#1830 [12:37] <Grim_Reaper> Yay for mcedit. Fixed my problem of ender eyes pointing to no stronghold in the area
#1831 [12:38] <Grim_Reaper> Deleted the chunks and now I found it :D
#1832 [12:38] <curby24> iv not even managed to get on the game yet lol
#1833 [12:38] <Ryladine> curby24: Alright, What version of java are you running? If you donn't know you can go to
#1834 [12:38] <Ryladine> ??> curby24 java/version
#1835 [12:38] <VoxelHead> curby24: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1836 [12:38] <VoxelHead> curby24: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1837 [12:38] <curby24> i downloaded a while ago bt have yet to play xD iv just updated my java so its deffo not that
#1838 [12:39] <shiding> Hey I got a problem: I know my password and all, I clicked remember, but suddenly it says i tried to log in too many times, and there
#1839 [12:39] <shiding> there's no way of "unlocking" this
#1840 [12:39] <Ryladine> curby24: I still need to know what version you are running, java 7 the "latest" is a dev build and causes problems with minecraft.
#1841 [12:39] <curby24> its 64bit thingie
#1842 [12:39] <Ryladine> shiding: Unlocking what?
#1843 [12:39] <curby24> i dunno lol il check
#1844 [12:40] <Ryladine> curby24: Go to that site, it will tell you what I need to know.
#1845 [12:40] <shiding> unlocking this message
#1846 [12:40] <Ryladine> shiding: .. What message?
#1847 [12:40] <shiding> Too Many Failed Logins
#1848 [12:40] <Ryladine> Oh sorry
#1849 [12:40] <Ryladine> I missed your first message.
#1850 [12:40] <shiding> but it said it at the first time
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#1852 [12:41] <Ryladine> shiding: All I can tell you is to try waiting, and ensure you have the correct username/password. I know there was a change in the login servers, and your not the first with this issue, but I'm afraid I don't know anything else about it right now.
#1853 [12:41] <Ryladine> shiding: It's possible waiting will remove the lock on the account, if it's somehow simply been triggered for too many failed logins.
#1854 [12:42] <shiding> I am 100% sure of the password, since i was capable of loging in the site and changing it
#1855 [12:42] <shiding> well lets hope a hour is enough
#1856 [12:43] <Ryladine> shiding: I'm afraid it could be 24 hours or more, I'm not certain how long the lockout generaly is, but I am fairly certain it is more than an hour. If it's a problem with the login system you may have to contact mojang for assistance.
#1857 [12:44] <shiding> VERY unhappy face
#1858 [12:44] <Ryladine> curby24: Do you have the information I requested?
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#1862 [12:48] <Ryladine> curby24: Do you have the information I requested?
#1863 [12:48] <curby24> okie im back apparently the java i have is java se6 update 27
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#1865 [12:48] <OniNoSeishin> hi
#1866 [12:49] <Ryladine> curby24: Alright, thats fine. I'll need to see a dxdaig next, please follow voxelheads directs/
#1867 [12:49] <Ryladine> Hello oni.
#1868 [12:49] <Ryladine> ??> curby24 win/dxdiag
#1869 [12:49] <VoxelHead> curby24: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1870 [12:49] <VoxelHead> curby24: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1871 [12:49] <curby24> what i understood none of that lol
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#1873 [12:50] <OniNoSeishin> quick question: is it normal that i can't find any mod in The Nether? Running 1.8.1 & searched for ~1 hour
#1874 [12:50] <Ryladine> curby24: Curby, try following voxels directions, the "win" key is the start button, or the key to the left of your alt button. (Not FN if you have it)
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#1876 [12:50] <almostroot> OniNoSeishin: Any mod? You mean mobs?
#1877 [12:50] <Ryladine> OniNoSeishin: I assume you mean mob, I suggest you check to make sure you are not in peaceful mod.
#1878 [12:50] <Ryladine> mode*
#1879 [12:51] <Ryladine> Hello root.
#1880 [12:51] <OniNoSeishin> yeah, mob. I'm not in peaceful mode
#1881 [12:51] <curby24> im on it atm just savin now
#1882 [12:51] <Ryladine> curby24: Alright.
#1883 [12:52] <almostroot> OniNoSeishin: Do mobs spawn in the normal map?
#1884 [12:52] <Ryladine> OniNoSeishin: Do you have any mods isntalled? Have you tried going into the nether from another location?
#1885 [12:52] <Ryladine> ^ What he said.
#1886 [12:52] <OniNoSeishin> no, i'm in peaceful mode. Sorry, i didn't checked because i always played in "normal"
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#1888 [12:53] <Ryladine> Lol
#1889 [12:53] <OniNoSeishin> it changed to "peaceful" by himself ._.
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#1891 [12:53] <Ryladine> Technically minecraft is an "it
#1892 [12:54] <almostroot> I disagree. I think she's a beautiful, clunky mentally unstable lady and I love her!
#1893 [12:54] <Ryladine> lol
#1894 [12:54] <curby24> http://pastebin.com/HdTgjD4t think i did it right lol
#1895 [12:54] <Ryladine> curby24: Yes, thats right.
#1896 [12:55] <Ryladine> curby24: Oops
#1897 [12:55] <Ryladine> curby24: No it's not lol.
#1898 [12:55] <curby24> bah fail
#1899 [12:55] <curby24> what di i do wrong lol
#1900 [12:55] <Ryladine> curby24: Sorry, Thats missing most of the information I needed, be sure to copy the entire saved document.
#1901 [12:55] <curby24> oh i thought i had il do it again
#1902 [12:56] <Ryladine> Gotta remember to scroll down before I said it's done right lol.
#1903 [12:57] <curby24> http://pastebin.com/nMiY2hfg yea forgot to scroll This should be right xD
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#1905 [12:57] <Ryladine> Thats it, thank you.
#1906 [12:57] <curby24> u sure lol
#1907 [12:57] <Ryladine> There we go.
#1908 [12:58] <Ryladine> curby24: Your video card drivers look to be out of date.
#1909 [12:58] <Ryladine> curby24: They are the retail version, and are from 2009.
#1910 [12:58] <curby24> hahaha life fail
#1911 [12:58] <curby24> erm how do i update them
#1912 [12:58] <curby24> lol
#1913 [12:59] <Ryladine> almostroot: Can you locate his drivers for him please? I'm afraid I've never had any luck finding the mobile intel drivers.
#1914 [12:59] <curby24> actually how can that make any dirrerence as i play loads of warcraft n that runs fine so why dosnt minecraft lol
#1915 [13:00] <curby24> btw its a she x
#1916 [13:00] <curby24> D
#1917 [13:00] <Ryladine> curby24: OpenGL. Minecraft was updated to use a newer version recently.
#1918 [13:00] <curby24> lol kk
#1919 [13:01] <Ryladine> curby24: Outdated drivers often do not support the correct version, and can cause blackscreens.
#1920 [13:02] <curby24> okie dokie anyideas where i might find these drivers? :S
#1921 [13:02] <Ryladine> curby24: root seems to be away, give me a bit as I search for them please.
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#1923 [13:02] <Ryladine> curby24: Once I have them I will give you a link to download them.,
#1924 [13:03] <curby24> okie dokie thankyou :) id probably still be shouting at the screen if u didnt help xD
#1925 [13:03] <Ryladine> Lol, its no problem, its why I idle here.
#1926 [13:03] <curby24> :D
#1927 [13:04] <Ryladine> Damned intel site's not loading well....
#1928 [13:04] <curby24> story of my life lol
#1929 [13:04] <Ryladine> Lol
#1930 [13:04] * Ryladine uses radeon, and likely always will.
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#1932 [13:05] <Ryladine> Yes. I'm well aware radeon is a model, not a brand.
#1933 [13:05] <curby24> i bet we manage to fix it i manage to log in then my
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#1935 [13:05] <curby24> laptop blows up
#1936 [13:05] <Ryladine> Lol While this loads I'll check your laptops specs.
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#1938 [13:05] <curby24> :D
#1939 [13:06] <guest-0-86266> hey my friends an me played a lot of minecraft throgh hamachi, since yesterday all of us except the guy who is running the server cant reach the server? anyone knows why?
#1940 [13:07] <Ryladine> ?? hamachi/foobar
#1941 [13:07] <Ryladine> Fff Got it wrong
#1942 [13:07] <oldtopman> ??> guest-0-86266 fubar/hamachi
#1943 [13:07] <VoxelHead> guest-0-86266: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1944 [13:07] <VoxelHead> guest-0-86266: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1945 [13:07] <Ryladine> Damn you oldtopman lol
#1946 [13:07] <oldtopman> >:D
#1947 [13:08] <Ryladine> curby24: Theres enough RAM, your processor could be a bit better but it will work, It's odd your system has 4gb page files, most pc's don't come standard with that ammount. Your graphics card may be a bit of a problem, but it should run alright if you set your graphics to fast, and lower your view distance a bit.
#1948 [13:08] <Ryladine> .....
#1949 [13:08] <curby24> yea i can sort in game shiz its just gettin it on amt lol even if i cant see the creepers tryin to get me at least il be on x
#1950 [13:08] <Ryladine> oldtopman, do you know a good place besides intel for intel graphics? Their site sucks and is giving me page not found errors....
#1951 [13:09] <curby24> atm*
#1952 [13:09] <oldtopman> ??> Ryladine gpu/intel
#1953 [13:09] <VoxelHead> Ryladine: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1954 [13:10] <oldtopman> Ryladine: That's all I got.
#1955 [13:10] <Ryladine> Hmm
#1956 [13:10] <curby24> i love you x
#1957 [13:10] <oldtopman> afk
#1958 [13:10] <curby24> xD
#1959 [13:10] <curby24> tytyty i give it a go
#1960 [13:10] <Ryladine> This page is trying to fail too o.o
#1961 [13:10] <Ryladine> lol
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#1963 [13:10] <oldtopman> phail
#1964 [13:11] <Ryladine> Indeed... Methinks intel needs to do some site maintenance...
#1965 [13:11] <oldtopman> ^
#1966 [13:11] <Ryladine> Ah! there we go, finally lol
#1967 [13:11] <curby24> it wont load :'(
#1968 [13:12] <curby24> haha
#1969 [13:12] <curby24> omg its loaded kinda xD
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#1971 [13:12] <Ryladine> curby: this laptop.. it's an acer right?
#1972 [13:12] <curby24> yea
#1973 [13:13] <Ryladine> Thought so, too bad, dell could have been useful for once.
#1974 [13:13] <curby24> haha
#1975 [13:13] * Ryladine is dancing to nyan cat while intel craps itself
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#1976 [13:14] <curby24> not the cat you got problems....
#1977 [13:14] <Ryladine> lol
#1978 [13:15] * Ryladine does have problems
#1978 [13:15] <curby24> btw iv no idea what im lookin for on this site xD
#1979 [13:15] <Chris> I was listening to nyan cat for 30 mins on a plane once...
#1980 [13:15] <Ryladine> Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
#1981 [13:15] <Ryladine> Lol
#1982 [13:15] <curby24> whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhy
#1983 [13:16] <Ryladine> Thats what we need for your drivers curby, I know I've found that chipeset before so...
#1984 [13:16] <curby24> d
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#1986 [13:16] <curby24> kk :)
#1987 [13:16] <Ryladine> curby, I'll brb, need to reload the IRC
#1988 [13:17] <curby24> okie
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#1990 [13:17] <curby24> il be waitin for intel to load -_-
#1991 [13:17] <Ryladine> Lol I just needed to re-log with the chat so I could read the updated topics
#1992 [13:18] <Ryladine> Lets see.. Mobile would be the laptop chipsets I'm fairly sure lol
#1993 [13:19] * Ryladine will be annoyed if intel calls the mobile chipsets anything else because he will have to wait more.
#1993 [13:19] <curby24> if ya say so lol
#1994 [13:19] <curby24> haha
#1995 [13:19] * Ryladine is annoyed.
#1995 [13:20] <curby24> xD
#1996 [13:20] * Ryladine is no longer annoyed
#1996 [13:20] <Ryladine> the entire list decided to wait until I scrolled some more to load comepletely :)
#1997 [13:20] <curby24> all that time to load and i got page not found -_-
#1998 [13:20] <curby24> ur gettin better luck than me xD
#1999 [13:20] <Ryladine> Now once this loads... if I don't get a page not found, I'll have your drivers
#2000 [13:20] <curby24> yey :D
#2001 [13:21] * Ryladine mutters to himself "If this doesn't fix his problem I'll kill intel for making me waste all this time."
#2001 [13:21] <curby24> heeeeeeer
#2002 [13:22] <curby24> key spaz lol her*
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#2004 [13:23] <Ryladine> ...................
#2005 [13:23] <TheNoodle> lol
#2006 [13:23] * Ryladine cries and slaps voxelhead with a frozen thenoodle
#2006 [13:23] <Ryladine> Hush you! You have no idea what this damn intel site has put me through!
#2007 [13:24] <TheNoodle> what driver are you looking for?
#2008 [13:24] <Ryladine> Now... To reload the page and assume intel is just as stupid as I think and this page not found error is something more akin to "we got tired of searching so we gave you this"
#2009 [13:24] <Ryladine> Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
#2010 [13:24] <Ryladine> I have it, the intel site is just being slow, and a pain.
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#2012 [13:25] <Ryladine> Failing to load pages, giving page not found errors for pages that are there, etc
#2013 [13:25] <Ryladine> General slowness..
#2014 [13:25] <Ryladine> It's acting alot like voxelhead!
#2015 [13:26] <Ryladine> lol
#2016 [13:27] <curby24> any joy? :)
#2017 [13:28] <Ryladine> Nope. Intel is being a pain lol
#2018 [13:28] <curby24> :'(
#2019 [13:28] <Ryladine> thenoodle may be working on it now too, don't know if he has other places he can look or not.
#2020 [13:28] <TheNoodle> holy shit
#2021 [13:28] <TheNoodle> sorry :p
#2022 [13:28] * TheNoodle starts looking
#2022 [13:28] <curby24> haha
#2023 [13:29] <Ryladine> LOL
#2024 [13:29] <Ryladine> :o
#2025 [13:29] <Ryladine> Noodle is Aubot exempt! Me wanty!
#2026 [13:29] <Ryladine> lol
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#2028 [13:29] <Morrolan> I don't think he kicks for holy shit?
#2029 [13:29] <Morrolan> Or does he?
#2030 [13:30] <Ryladine> It usually kicks for any cursing at all
#2031 [13:30] <Morrolan> Well, it kicks for the f word I think, but that's theo nly one I saw so far.
#2032 [13:30] <Morrolan> the only*
#2033 [13:30] <Morrolan> Oh well. :D
#2034 [13:30] <Morrolan> !help
#2035 [13:30] <Ryladine> Hmm I may have it wrong then lol
#2036 [13:30] <Kloos1990> !help
#2037 [13:30] <TheNoodle> I'm just badarse.
#2038 [13:30] <Ryladine> lol
#2039 [13:30] <Morrolan> Maybe that's the explanation, yea. ;)
#2040 [13:31] * TheNoodle nods
#2040 [13:31] <Kloos1990> i need help i cant login at minecraft
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#2042 [13:31] <Badmouth> holy shit
#2043 [13:31] <Badmouth> Nope, seems safe
#2044 [13:31] <Ryladine> Hmmm curby24 I'm afraid I'm not going to find your drivers here... The site just isn't working well enough to find anything....
#2045 [13:32] <curby24> noooooooooooooo
#2046 [13:32] <Ryladine> Anyone have a spot to download up to date intel drivers besides intel?
#2047 [13:32] <curby24> ;'(
#2048 [13:32] <curby24> :'(*
#2049 [13:32] <TheNoodle> have you tried acer?
#2050 [13:32] <Badmouth> Mibbit sure does have its flaws.... "+++ VoxelHead has given owner to *!Mibbit@5ac91ff6.bb.sky.com"
#2051 [13:33] <Ryladine> Hmm I usually go to the manufacturer of the chipset because it's more likely to be up to date, but I should try there with intel acting like this...
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#2054 [13:35] <Ryladine> No good.
#2055 [13:35] <TheNoodle> :(
#2056 [13:35] <curby24> :(
#2057 [13:35] <Ryladine> The acer site doesn't have the video drivers.
#2058 [13:35] <curby24> -_-
#2059 [13:36] <Ryladine> And intel is just giving me page not found errors.
#2060 [13:36] <curby24> meh
#2061 [13:37] <TheNoodle> found it! \o/
#2062 [13:37] <TheNoodle> http://goo.gl/UVpyQ
#2063 [13:37] <TheNoodle> ;)
#2064 [13:37] <Ryladine> :o
#2065 [13:37] <Ryladine> KIK
#2066 [13:37] <Ryladine> LOL
#2067 [13:37] <Ryladine> Dell comes through today afterall!
#2068 [13:37] <curby24> :O
#2069 [13:37] <Ryladine> IF they don't stop the drivers from working on a non-dell machine anyway...
#2070 [13:37] <Ryladine> Nope
#2071 [13:38] <Ryladine> That page is a bunch of laptops :) lol
#2072 [13:38] <TheNoodle> lol
#2073 [13:39] <chrysopath> hello, my minecraft 1.8.1 login fails everytime with "to many failed logins". what should i do, because the first error appeared after being for moar then 10 hours offline.
#2074 [13:40] <Ryladine> Well curby24 I'm afraid I can't help you. Intel is simply being un-cooperative today, I suggest you try either calling their support number, or...
#2075 [13:40] * Ryladine random thought has occured!
#2075 [13:40] <Ryladine> Lets see if windows will update them!
#2076 [13:40] <Ryladine> Lol
#2077 [13:40] <curby24> i think i may have foun it
#2078 [13:40] <Ryladine> :o
#2079 [13:40] <Ketsueki> chrysopath: I suggest you take the 'my account was hacked' approach on the support page
#2080 [13:41] <Ryladine> Good for you lol, do us a favor and link us to it so we can help you be certain.
#2081 [13:41] <curby24> could be a dodgy site tho :S
#2082 [13:41] <chrysopath> ty, im going to try
#2083 [13:41] <Ryladine> curby24: Link us to the site, we can tell you if you should trust it or not. (probably)
#2084 [13:41] <curby24> http://www.pcpitstop.com/drivers/download/Mobile~Intel(R)~4~Series~Express~Chipset~Family.html or just not what i need xD
#2085 [13:42] <Ryladine> Hmm
#2086 [13:42] <Ryladine> I've never heard of them..
#2087 [13:42] <curby24> iv heard of them before but cant remember if it was good or bad lol
#2088 [13:42] <TheNoodle> Neither :/
#2089 [13:42] <TheNoodle> At some point I need to start ripping drivers from every website.
#2090 [13:42] <TheNoodle> That would be an awesome bot.
#2091 [13:43] <curby24> mcafee seems to think its fine
#2092 [13:43] <curby24> fek it im tryin it il let you no if it works lol
#2093 [13:43] <Ryladine> Lol
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#2095 [13:43] <Ryladine> We will be here, be sure to scan the download first though.
#2096 [13:45] <curby24> i will :)
#2097 [13:45] <curby24> lol if i can figure out where to click xD
#2098 [13:45] <curby24> they dont have the windows 7 one
#2099 [13:46] <curby24> should i try vista?
#2100 [13:46] <TheNoodle> May as well
#2101 [13:47] <TheNoodle> at this point my method would be try ALL the drivers!
#2102 [13:47] <chrysopath> back again. after searching for a "literally" 'my account was hacked', i changed my pw and login is working again. if my account would be hacked, my pw would have been changed, too. :) thx for the help
#2103 [13:47] <curby24> hahaha erm they dont have the 64bit ones would the 32bit ones do anythin
#2104 [13:47] * TheNoodle tips #minecrafthelp's hat
#2104 [13:48] <TheNoodle> curby24, I think it's a lost cause :p
#2105 [13:48] <curby24> noooooooooooooo
#2106 [13:48] <TheNoodle> dat mute.
#2107 [13:48] <TheNoodle> ...I wonder if I can kick vox.
#2108 [13:49] <Wug> you can but theres no point
#2109 [13:49] <Chris> ??< dont/bother
#2110 [13:50] <TheNoodle> ??< dont/bother
#2111 [13:50] <curby24> well im downloading somethin lol
#2112 [13:50] <TheNoodle> \o/
#2113 [13:51] * TheNoodle wants to download something too
#2113 [13:51] * TheNoodle downloads more ram
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#2114 [13:53] <curby24> lol my download times gettin longer not shorter -_-
#2115 [13:53] <TheNoodle> that's because you need to download more ram.
#2116 [13:53] <TheNoodle> I'm up to 24gb.
#2117 [13:53] <curby24> haha
#2118 [13:54] <Chris> hey noodle, 197 annoying you too in #essentials?
#2119 [13:54] * TheNoodle nods
#2119 [13:58] <curby24> ooo its downloaded
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#2121 [13:59] <curby24> noooo " your computer does not meet the minimum requirements"
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#2124 [14:00] <TheNoodle> do it anyway!
#2125 [14:00] * TheNoodle realises this probably isn't the best solution
#2125 [14:01] <TheNoodle> Don't do that just because I'm a voi- wait...hehehe
#2126 [14:01] <TheNoodle> you should delete system32.
#2127 [14:01] <TheNoodle> It will totally fix your problem.
#2128 [14:01] * Ryladine slaps TheNoodle around a bit with a large trout
#2128 [14:01] * g picks up Ryladine's trout and eats it. Nom! ><(((°> eaten: 244
#2128 [14:02] <curby24> wtf u on about lol
#2129 [14:02] <TheNoodle> lol
#2130 [14:02] <Ryladine> Ignore noodle :)
#2131 [14:02] * Chris accidentally system32
#2131 [14:02] <TheNoodle> :)
#2132 [14:02] <curby24> i figured i shoul ignor lol
#2133 [14:02] <TheNoodle> hey >.>
#2134 [14:02] <curby24> x
#2135 [14:02] <curby24> xD
#2136 [14:02] <TheNoodle> I do help people! promise!
#2137 [14:03] <curby24> haha cant install that thing anyway
#2138 [14:05] <TheNoodle> I have an idea, I shall act as your proxy to minecraft.
#2139 [14:05] <TheNoodle> You're at the menu, what do you want to do?
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#2141 [14:06] <TheNoodle> heh, have you tried this yet curby24? http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect
#2142 [14:06] <curby24> yea it was scanning fo like an hour and did nothing :(
#2143 [14:07] <curby24> intel site sucks
#2144 [14:07] * TheNoodle nods
#2144 [14:08] <curby24> ooooooo we have river instalation
#2145 [14:08] <curby24> driver
#2146 [14:08] <TheNoodle> \o/
#2147 [14:08] <curby24> scratch that it failed
#2148 [14:08] <TheNoodle> :(
#2149 [14:09] <curby24> tryin to scan again on intel see if it works this time
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#2156 [14:16] <keret> hi
#2157 [14:17] <keret> i have an problewm
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#2159 [14:26] <curby24> oooo intel sites starte workin :D
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#2165 [14:48] <Iridium> so i was thinking of learning to program
#2166 [14:48] <Iridium> would java be a could place to start?
#2167 [14:49] <Chris> depends, what were you planning on making?
#2168 [14:49] <Scott> A lot of universities use java for CS.
#2169 [14:49] <Iridium> i'm not sure yet :P
#2170 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> Personally, I'd start with python, not java
#2171 [14:49] <Chris> java, maybe C#
#2172 [14:49] <TheNoodle> ^
#2173 [14:49] <Chris> I don't like python xD
#2174 [14:49] <TheNoodle> (python)
#2175 [14:49] <Scott> I'm going to play with django soon I think.
#2176 [14:49] <Chris> I can't read it :P
#2177 [14:49] <TheNoodle> well I don't like YOU
#2178 [14:49] <TheNoodle> :p
#2179 [14:49] <Chris> :-(
#2180 [14:49] <Scott> I can't decide if I want to use django or RoR.
#2181 [14:49] <Chris> I thought we were friends :-(
#2182 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> I'd start with anything other than java
#2183 [14:49] * Chris cries
#2183 [14:50] <TheNoodle> awww!
#2184 [14:50] * TheNoodle hugs chris
#2184 [14:50] <Chris> :-)
#2185 [14:50] <TheNoodle> I'd start with python if you've never programmed before.
#2186 [14:50] <Iridium> well i say i haven't programmed
#2187 [14:50] <TheNoodle> If you're learning another language try java as since you're in here you'll probably have the motivation to keep going
#2188 [14:50] <Iridium> i used to run a runescape private server back in the day
#2189 [14:51] <Iridium> so i have played with java a little bit
#2190 [14:51] <Scott> ILLEGAL.
#2191 [14:51] <Iridium> mainly adding other peoples code and debugging
#2192 [14:51] <Iridium> but that doesn't count, right? :p
#2193 [14:51] <Chris> yes
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#2195 [14:51] <corey72723> hello
#2196 [14:51] <Iridium> so what would be a good first project for python then?
#2197 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> As with any programming, "Hello world" :P
#2198 [14:52] <corey72723> is anybody else having problems logging into their account? :(
#2199 [14:52] <Iridium> okay well how about a 2nd project then
#2200 [14:52] <Iridium> nope, i can log in just fine corey72723
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#2202 [14:52] <corey72723> i cant.. its like my account got deleted
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#2205 [14:53] <jckpalmer> Does anyone know Okushama here???
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#2207 [14:53] <Trel> What's the best method to blend terrain when the map generater changed and causes abrupt cliffs?
#2208 [14:53] <TheNoodle> corey72723, where did you buy minecraft?
#2209 [14:53] <Jammy> can someone tell me how to turn an on redstone torch to off with a button?
#2210 [14:53] <Iridium> what is an interpreter?
#2211 [14:54] <TheNoodle> Trel, VoxelSniper or WorldEdit
#2212 [14:54] <Iridium> actually let me guess
#2213 [14:54] <Chris> jammy, [Torch] [Block] [Lever]
#2214 [14:54] <jckpalmer> Hey guys we've downloaded the game but when we try to run it Im told "NOT PREMIUM" can anyone help me pleeeaaaseee!!
#2215 [14:54] <Trel> TheNoodle: what about external?
#2216 [14:54] <Iridium> is it something that interprets code written and translate it to something easier for the computer to read?
#2217 [14:54] <Chris> both the torch and the lever are attached to the blcok
#2218 [14:54] <TheNoodle> Pretty much Iridium.
#2219 [14:54] <almostroot> jckpalmer: Did you buy the game?
#2220 [14:54] <Chris> jck, what's your minecraft name
#2221 [14:54] <Iridium> ok geat
#2222 [14:54] <Jammy> i don't get you chris? :P
#2223 [14:54] <TheNoodle> Trel, MCEdit, I guess..
#2224 [14:54] <jckpalmer> summersun10
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#2226 [14:55] <TheNoodle> !paid summersun10
#2227 [14:55] <Chris> Jammy, place a redstone torch on a block, on the other side put a lever
#2228 [14:55] <jckpalmer> no we downloaded the beta
#2229 [14:55] <Trel> TheNoodle: I have that, but the blend doesn't work that well when one part is water.
#2230 [14:55] <TheNoodle> jckpalmer, you have to pay for the beta.
#2231 [14:55] <Chris> is aubot broken or just flood controlled?
#2232 [14:55] <Jammy> can you use a button?
#2233 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> jckpalmer - Beta is not free. You need to pay for an account
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#2235 [14:55] <Chris> yes, but it'll only turn off for a second
#2236 [14:55] <Fizrock> Hello
#2237 [14:56] <jckpalmer> Oh really, cant play unless we've paid then :(
#2238 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Classic is still free.. there's also a demo
#2239 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> ??> jckpalmer demo
#2240 [14:56] <VoxelHead> jckpalmer: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#2241 [14:56] <Fizrock> I need help with Minecraft (omgsurprised?)
#2242 [14:56] <VoxelHead> jckpalmer: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#2243 [14:56] <TheNoodle> Trel, not really sure, I only use voxelsniper and worldedit
#2244 [14:56] <Fizrock> Minecraft crashes when I enter a world.
#2245 [14:56] <Jammy> that almost worked chris :P
#2246 [14:56] <Chris> amost?
#2247 [14:56] <Jammy> but i'm still not able to turn torch off that i want too
#2248 [14:57] <Chris> use a lever
#2249 [14:57] <Jammy> i have 3 torches used for getting vertical
#2250 [14:57] <jckpalmer> Thanks guys!!! Do any of you know which IRC Mr_Okushama hangs out in??? Thx
#2251 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Who?
#2252 [14:57] <Fizrock> Can anyone help me?
#2253 [14:57] <Chris> * [Mr_okushama] #Terraria #minecraftforge +#mcp-modding @#mcp @#mcmodcenter @#gladioku +#freeBNC @#okushama.info @#spam #space @#aethermod #adcraft @#bottestspamchan ##crow
#2254 [14:57] <Jammy> trying to change it so the 2 that are on in the sequence turn off
#2255 [14:57] <jckpalmer> Mr_Okushama the Modder that created Friends+
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#2257 [14:57] <Chris> jck, see my last thing
#2258 [14:57] <TheNoodle> What's your problem Fizrock?
#2259 [14:58] <jckpalmer> Thanks Chris :D
#2260 [14:58] <Fizrock> Minecraft crashes when I enter a world.
#2261 [14:58] <Fizrock> I can only play it at school.
#2262 [14:58] <Wug> Kealper:
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#2264 [14:59] <Jammy> aww that idea won't work, can't stick a torch on a stickied block :P
#2265 [15:00] <Fizrock> :(
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#2267 [15:02] <Fizrock> Can anyone help me with my problem?
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#2269 [15:04] <Fizrock> I'm in bed, so if anyone replies I might take a while to respond.
#2270 [15:07] <Jammy> Chris: all I am getting button to do is make redstone wire glow a little brighter :P
#2271 [15:08] <Chris> haah
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#2274 [15:13] <Iridium> is there an easy way of deleting the contents of multiple folders without deleting the folder itself?
#2275 [15:14] <TheNoodle> hmm
#2276 [15:14] <Wug> I can imagine a fairly easy way to do it with bash
#2277 [15:14] <Iridium> bash?
#2278 [15:15] <Chris> iridium, cd into the folder, rm -r (
#2279 [15:15] <Chris> rm -r *
#2280 [15:15] <TheNoodle> Iridium, Windowss or linux? :p
#2281 [15:15] <Iridium> windows 7
#2282 [15:15] <TheNoodle> in that case, registry edits! ^_^
#2283 [15:15] <TheNoodle> http://www.mydigitallife.info/tips-of-how-to-delete-folder-contents-while-maintaining-folder-tree-structure-in-windows-xp-pc/
#2284 [15:15] <Iridium> i've thought about switching
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#2286 [15:16] <Chris> ohhhh
#2287 [15:16] <Chris> ooops xD
#2288 [15:16] <dr_bibble> hey i need some help
#2289 [15:17] <Chris> I misread what you were trying to do Iridium, on linux that would have broke the structure xD
#2290 [15:17] <Fizrock> So can anyone at all help me with my problem?
#2291 [15:17] <dr_bibble> anyone know anything about servers?
#2292 [15:17] <Chris> yep
#2293 [15:18] <dr_bibble> maybe you can help me
#2294 [15:18] <Chris> maybe... what's the problem
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#2296 [15:19] <dr_bibble> see i downloaded something from someone and did all of the steps they told me then i got all of my files i need to make the bukkit server. but i dont know what to do with them.
#2297 [15:19] <Chris> do you have a start.sh file?
#2298 [15:19] <dr_bibble> like where do they go and how do i actually get on my server
#2299 [15:19] <Chris> wait what OS?
#2300 [15:19] <Fizrock> Can someone help me with my crash problem?
#2301 [15:20] <dr_bibble> vista
#2302 [15:20] <Chris> dr_ put all the files into any folder of your choice
#2303 [15:20] <Chris> do you have any bat files in there?
#2304 [15:21] <dr_bibble> yea. i ran that and then it created all of the necessary folders. i put them in a folder called minecraft bukkit server and that folder is in my .minecraft folder
#2305 [15:21] <Fizrock> -.-
#2306 [15:21] <Chris> should work fine
#2307 [15:22] <dr_bibble> how do i actually get on my server??
#2308 [15:22] <Chris> dr, use the ip, localhost
#2309 [15:22] <dr_bibble> so go to directconnect and then type localhost?
#2310 [15:22] <Fizrock> K, well, I'm never gonna be able to play Crinemaft again :l
#2311 [15:23] <Chris> yep
#2312 [15:23] <dr_bibble> ok brb
#2313 [15:23] <Chris> fizrock, it seems that everyone is asleep
#2314 [15:23] <dr_bibble> it says connection refused: connect
#2315 [15:24] <Chris> are there any errors in the command prompt window
#2316 [15:24] <dr_bibble> should i run it again and see?
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#2318 [15:27] <Chris> sure
#2319 [15:28] <dr_bibble> ive got a lot of warnings and its says it failed to create some files but it did create them because theyre in the folder
#2320 [15:28] <Chris> no severes?
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#2322 [15:29] <dr_bibble> what?
#2323 [15:29] <Chris> instead of INFO or WARNING, is there any ones that say SEVERE
#2324 [15:29] <dr_bibble> severe or server?
#2325 [15:30] <TheNoodle> severe.
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#2327 [15:30] <Ghiz> You guys have any tips for clearing out the caves and stuff under mob grinders?
#2328 [15:30] <Chris> I gotta go, sorry
#2329 [15:31] <dr_bibble> awww.
#2330 [15:31] <Mistercris> Would anybody know if my friend buys the game now, howlong would he be able to play it for?
#2331 [15:31] <Wug> forever
#2332 [15:31] <Mistercris> so he woulnt have to pay for it on november 1st?
#2333 [15:31] <Mistercris> or 11ths
#2334 [15:31] <Chris|ZzZ> Mister, infinitely
#2335 [15:32] <Chris|ZzZ> its cheaper now so do it asap
#2336 [15:32] <Mistercris> :D thanks then
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#2338 [15:32] <Wug> minecraft is not a subscription based game
#2339 [15:32] <Chris|ZzZ> now going to sleep, bye all
#2340 [15:32] <Kamidor> Hi
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#2342 [15:33] <MasterJochen> hi
#2343 [15:33] <Kamidor> Can anyone help me? I've bought Minecraft over ELV, how long does it take, until it's been activated?
#2344 [15:33] <MasterJochen> can take a few days (3)
#2345 [15:34] <Kamidor> =/
#2346 [15:34] <Kamidor> Thanks
#2347 [15:34] <MasterJochen> i have a question about pre release 1.9 4 redstone torches dont seam to work right
#2348 [15:35] <Kamidor> So i must try to login until it works? Or is there any email notification?
#2349 [15:35] <Wug> Kamidor: what is elv
#2350 [15:36] <MasterJochen> i cant remember
#2351 [15:36] <MasterJochen> u should play singleplayer till it works dude :-/
#2352 [15:37] <Wug> you can't play singleplayer either unless you pay.
#2353 [15:37] <Kamidor> ok
#2354 [15:37] <Wug> Kamidor: what is elv
#2355 [15:37] <clarjon1> Kamidor: what is ELV
#2356 [15:37] <Kamidor> Ec
#2357 [15:37] <clarjon1> wut
#2358 [15:38] <Kamidor> http://www.milchwerk.de/images/news/EC-Zahlung-moeglich.jpg
#2359 [15:38] <Kamidor> :P
#2360 [15:38] <Wug> couldnt you have just said that
#2361 [15:38] <Kamidor> In germany its called elv...sorry
#2362 [15:39] <Wug> just wait a few days
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#2366 [15:43] <Iridium> what are arguments?
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#2369 [15:45] <Iridium> this tut is going on about argv and sys.argv[0] and stuff and i don't understand a word of it
#2370 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Say you have a command line
#2371 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> programname.exe stuff1 stuff2 stuff3
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#2373 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Everything you place after the program name, are arguments you want to pass
#2374 [15:45] <Iridium> yeah
#2375 [15:46] <Iridium> ok
#2376 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> All those arguments are placed in an array
#2377 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> argv[0] is stuff1
#2378 [15:46] <Iridium> so that you can refer to them later?
#2379 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> RIght
#2380 [15:46] <Iridium> but what do they do?
#2381 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Up to you
#2382 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Do you want to define a text file that you want to input at program start? place the other filename in there so you don't have to execute the program to ask for the name
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#2384 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Do you want to already have defined variables at program start? place them as arguments
#2385 [15:48] <Iridium> ahh okay
#2386 [15:48] <Iridium> i think i get it now, thanks
#2387 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Without knowing what exactly you're getting from the tutorial there, these are just broad generalizations
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#2389 [15:50] <whatclemency> Hey, I need help with my purchase of Minecraft
#2390 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#2391 [15:50] <whatclemency> I have bought the game but I have not yet recieved an authorisation email
#2392 [15:51] <whatclemency> I can't sign in to play the game
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#2394 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> We can't really help with account issues ourselves. You may want to call up your credit card provider/bank and confirm that payment's been made to Mojang AB for Minecraft first off
#2395 [15:51] <wowgames> anyone from support here ?
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#2397 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> If payment's been made on your end, you can then send a ticket using minecraft.net/support
#2398 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> wowgames - Perhaps
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#2400 [15:52] <wowgames> I made two gift code purchases. It's been over two hours and I didnt receive it
#2401 [15:52] <wowgames> usually it comes instantly
#2402 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Check your profile page at minecraft.net
#2403 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Gift codes usually list instantly there
#2404 [15:53] <wowgames> I checked
#2405 [15:53] <wowgames> nothing there, just the codes from yesterday
#2406 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Did you have any problems during payment processing?
#2407 [15:53] <wowgames> nope, I got the email from paypal
#2408 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Email?
#2409 [15:53] <wowgames> 18 OUT 2011 10:25:24 PDT | ID da transação: 0CL40726YT249770J Olá Wowderland Games, Você enviou um pagamento de €14,95 EUR para Mojang AB (support@mojang.com)
#2410 [15:53] <Guest92378> I'm having trouble starting Minecraft. I open it, it loads for a second but does nothing after it, i've tried updating Java and i'm still having the same problem
#2411 [15:53] <wowgames> Informing that the transaction was completed
#2412 [15:54] <wowgames> 18 OUT 2011 10:26:30 PDT | ID da transação: 39H27094AG331903D Olá Wowderland Games, Você enviou um pagamento de €14,95 EUR para Mojang AB (support@mojang.com)
#2413 [15:54] <wowgames> both emails arrived
#2414 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> wowgames - Then there's really nothing we can do here, you'll want to contact Mojang directly using the support page at minecraft.net/support
#2415 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Guest92378 - Do you get any error reports?
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#2417 [15:56] <Guest92378> Nothing comes up at all
#2418 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Guest92378 - Any files named hs_err_pid?
#2419 [15:57] <Guest92378> Just checked, not found anything called that
#2420 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Guest92378 - What operating system are you on? How much RAM is on the computer?
#2421 [15:59] <Guest92378> Windows 7, and i have 3.5 GB available
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#2423 [15:59] <wowgames> GreyVulpine - Do you know if theres a reseller program for minecraft ? Also, how can I buy more than 1 gift code per purchase ?
#2424 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Could you execute minecraft with these instructions?
#2425 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#2426 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> It'll run minecraft using a batch file, which will open up minecraft in a cmd prompt
#2427 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Any errors that are thrown, will show up there
#2428 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> wowgames - There are no authorized resellers for minecraft
#2429 [16:00] <Guest92378> Ok thanks, i'll check now
#2430 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> wowgames - Also, as far as we know, there are no discounts for more than one gift code
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#2432 [16:00] <Swinting> Hello can i have some help
#2433 [16:00] <wowgames> GreyVulpine and there is anyway to buy more then 1 per transaction ?
#2434 [16:01] <wowgames> GreyVulpine there used to be this option on the store but looks like it was removed
#2435 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Used to be.. but yeah, it was removed
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#2437 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Swinting - Only if you tell us what your issue is
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#2439 [16:02] <wowgames> GreyVulpine would there be any contact I could discuss this further ? I'd like to be an official reseller in my country
#2440 [16:02] <Swinting> Can i have some help whenever i load the game through browser i get a black screen and then on my desktop a notepad with a bunch of numbers and also through the downloader i log in and then it just closes it right after i log in what do i do
#2441 [16:02] <TheNoodle> There are no resellers of minecraft.
#2442 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> wowgames - Mojang doesn't do resellers of minecraft.
#2443 [16:02] <TheNoodle> And #minecrafthelp is run by the community, we don't work for mojang.
#2444 [16:03] <wowgames> got it , thanks anyway
#2445 [16:03] <Swinting> GreyVulpine do you know how to solve my problem
#2446 [16:03] <TheNoodle> GreyVulpine can solve ALL the problems!
#2447 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Swinting - Could you share one of those error reports to pastebin.com and give us the URL to it?
#2448 [16:03] * GreyVulpine kicks TheNoodle
#2448 [16:03] <Swinting> yes i can
#2449 [16:03] <TheNoodle> :3
#2450 [16:04] <Swinting> http://pastebin.com/in6DyCKL there is the link
#2451 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Thank you, one moment
#2452 [16:05] <Swinting> ok
#2453 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Looks like your ATI video drivers are at fault. Do you know how to update them?
#2454 [16:05] <Swinting> no how do i
#2455 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag? Will give us more information about your computer, including what video card you have. We'll then be able to recommend a video card driver for you to download and install
#2456 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> ??> Swinting win/dxdiag
#2457 [16:06] <VoxelHead> Swinting: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2458 [16:06] <VoxelHead> Swinting: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2460 [16:07] <Guest92378> @GreyVulpine, that hasn't worked either
#2461 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> Guest92378 - Did you get a command prompt window?
#2462 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> Guest92378 - Did it say anything?
#2463 [16:07] <Swinting> After i save it should i close that window
#2464 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Swinting - Sure
#2465 [16:08] <Guest92378> What's that?
#2466 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> Guest92378 - Using those instructions, you should've gotten a black command prompt window when you tried to run the .bat
#2467 [16:08] <Guest92378> Yes i got that, that opened but didn't open minecraft
#2468 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Did the command prompt window have any text in it?
#2469 [16:09] <Swinting> http://pastebin.com/gMhurqZg there you go
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#2471 [16:10] <Swinting> GreyVupline is that helping
#2472 [16:10] <Guest92378> Yes, I'm guessing where it went wrong is that it said 'Error occurred during initialization of VM'
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#2474 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> Swinting - You're running a RADEON 9200 SERIES video card on Windows XP. It's a pretty old system from the looks of it. You can try updating the video drivers by downloading this: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/radeon-prer300-xp.aspx
#2475 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Guest92378 - That would be something to share with us, yes. Did it say anything else?
#2476 [16:11] <GreyVulpine> Looks like Java's at fault.
#2477 [16:11] <Swinting> do i just click the link under the download tab
#2478 [16:12] <Guest92378> Everything else it said was just random file names, then at the bottom it said 'Press any key to continue . . .' then when i did, that screen disappeared and nothing else happened
#2479 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Yes, the "Catalyst Software Suite"
#2480 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Guest92378 - Could you please run it again, this time leave the window open. Right click on it, select "mark", you'll then be able to drag a selection box over the text. Right click again to copy. Then go to: http://www.pastebin.com and paste it there
#2481 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Submit it, and give us the address to it so that we may read it
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#2483 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> !topic -7
#2484 [16:16] <Guest92378> http://pastebin.com/PYV14jhS
#2485 [16:17] <Swinting> ok brb have to restart pc now
#2486 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Yup, that's definitely java. Please uninstall java completely from your system and reinstall it fresh
#2487 [16:17] <Iridium> who is Dennis Ritchie?
#2488 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> !wiki dennis ritchie
#2489 [16:17] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie
#2490 [16:17] <GreyBot> Dennis MacAlistair Ritchie (b. September 9, 1941; found dead October 12, 2011), commonly known by his username dmr, was an American computer scientist who "helped shape the digital era." He created the C programming language and, with long-time colleague, Ken Thompson, the UNIX operating system. Ritchie and Thompson received the Turing Award from the ACM
#2491 [16:17] <GreyBot> in 1983, the Hamming Medal from the IEEE in 1990 and the National Medal of Technology from President Clinton in 1999. Ritchie was the head of Lucent Technologies System Software Research Department when he retired in 2007. The 'R' of the K&R C book stands for his name.
#2492 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2493 [16:17] <Guest92378> i'll do that now, thanks
#2494 [16:17] <Iridium> ty
#2495 [16:24] <Guest92378> That's working now, thanks a lot GreyVulpine :)
#2496 [16:24] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2496 [16:25] <Iridium> i give up
#2497 [16:25] <Iridium> all this talk about things i don't understand is giving me a headache
#2498 [16:25] <Iridium> maybe i'll learn python another day
#2499 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> You kids have it easy, with your python and your java and C#
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#2501 [16:26] <TheNoodle> Iridium, what problems are you having?
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#2503 [16:27] <Iridium> the problem is that it mentions linux related stuff quite alot
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#2505 [16:28] <mr_boo> Hey i need a little help
#2506 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2507 [16:28] <Iridium> idk maybe it's just an overload of information
#2508 [16:28] <mr_boo> my server
#2509 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo - What about it?
#2510 [16:28] <TheNoodle> Iridium, probs looking at the wrong tutorial, basic python shouldn't mention linux,
#2511 [16:29] <Iridium> http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html
#2512 [16:29] <TheNoodle> Don't use python.org
#2513 [16:29] <TheNoodle> :P
#2514 [16:29] <mr_boo> ok so i go into my server properties folder and enter my ip but when i click on the start file to open the cmd and start the server it says that perhaps there is another server running on that port
#2515 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Don't enter your ip into server-ip
#2516 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> leave it blank
#2517 [16:30] <mr_boo> but when i start minecraft and go to multiplayer i have to go to direct connect and type localhost.
#2518 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Right
#2519 [16:31] <Iridium> ah ok, it was the first hit on google
#2520 [16:31] <mr_boo> its supposed to be listed on the server list according to the video
#2521 [16:31] <kurtan> hmm, hi, all of a sudden i get "Too many failed logins" when i try to login.. anyone know how i can do anything about it except w8 ? :P
#2522 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo - You're following the wrong tutorial then
#2523 [16:31] <kurtan> wonder if someone has been trying to bruteforce my pw or something
#2524 [16:31] <Iridium> would this one be better? http://sthurlow.com/python/
#2525 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> kurtan - All you can do is wait.
#2526 [16:31] <TheNoodle> Iridium, Yes :)
#2527 [16:31] <kurtan> GreyVulpine: guessed so
#2528 [16:31] <mr_boo> ok so what should i do then?
#2529 [16:31] <Iridium> ok great
#2530 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo - Are you trying to set up a classic or beta server?
#2531 [16:31] <TheNoodle> Python.org isn't for people that just started programming.
#2532 [16:31] <mr_boo> bukkit
#2533 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Then there is no comprehensive server list for bukkit/beta
#2534 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> You don't enter an ip into server.properties. What you do need to do is port forward, if you're on a home connection
#2535 [16:32] <SinZ> his prob talking about the multiplayer menu
#2536 [16:32] <mr_boo> so what do i do to make it so my friends can join
#2537 [16:32] <SinZ> his wondering why it hasnt magically appeared
#2538 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> Port forward
#2539 [16:32] <mr_boo> ok how?
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#2541 [16:33] <Iridium> i see, where might i find something written in python to get an idea of what it looks like?
#2542 [16:33] <TheNoodle> http://portforward.com
#2543 [16:33] <TheNoodle> Iridium, one sec.
#2544 [16:33] <TheNoodle> heh, most of my stuff is on my laptop :/
#2545 [16:33] <TheNoodle> Do you have putty?
#2546 [16:33] <Iridium> i doubt it, what is it?
#2547 [16:33] <TheNoodle> or some other ssh program
#2548 [16:33] <Danke> is there something wrong with registration? i bought the game 2 hours ago, and i've not heard anything
#2549 [16:33] <TheNoodle> It allows you to connect to a remote server
#2550 [16:34] <Iridium> nope
#2551 [16:34] <mr_boo> ok so what do i do with it?
#2552 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - http://www.cse.msu.edu/~cse231/
#2553 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Try that, msu switched to Python years after I got done with their comp sci program
#2554 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Should still be able to get some good python tutorials and example programs there
#2555 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Also, lecture slides
#2556 [16:35] <Iridium> ah that's exactly what i need, thanks grey
#2557 [16:35] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2557 [16:35] <mr_boo> ok so how do i port forward
#2558 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo - Simply put. What operating system are you on?
#2559 [16:36] <mr_boo> vista
#2560 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#2561 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> at the black command prompt, type in: ipconfig
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#2563 [16:37] <mr_boo> ok done
#2564 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> Look for ipv4 address and the default gateway. The ipv4 address is your local computer's ip address. you'll go to your default gateway address using your browser to access your router
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#2566 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> You'll then log in, look for a port forwarding page. You'll then configure a rule to allow port 25565/TCP to your ipv4 address
#2567 [16:37] <mr_boo> what?
#2568 [16:37] <GreyVulpine> If you don't know how to do that, portforward.com has pages on what to access on your router
#2569 [16:38] <mr_boo> ok hold on brb
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#2571 [16:40] <mr_boo> ok i found my ip4 adress. do i need the model # of my wireless router?
#2572 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> It would help, yes.
#2573 [16:40] <mr_boo> ok
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#2575 [16:40] <mr_boo> then i look for that on the portforward page?
#2576 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Right
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#2578 [16:41] <mr_boo> ok i found it and clicked it.
#2579 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Just follow the directions to port forward for "Minecraft Server". What router do you have?
#2580 [16:42] <mr_boo> netgear wpn842v3
#2581 [16:42] <Jamal> Tired of nhiggers?
#2582 [16:42] <Jamal> Sick of their monkeyshines?
#2583 [16:42] <Jamal> We are too!
#2584 [16:43] <Jamal> Join Chimpout Forum!
#2585 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> !k Jamal
#2586 [16:43] * GreyBot kicked Jamal from #minecrafthelp (Reason: amal :<Kicks:840>)
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#2588 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> !kb jamal
#2589 [16:43] * GreyBot kicked Jamal from #minecrafthelp (Reason: amal :<Kicks:841>)
#2590 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo - Then, you found the default gateway address using ipconfig, yes?
#2591 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Using your browser, go to http://default.gateway.ip.here
#2592 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Log in with admin/password
#2593 [16:44] <mr_boo> hold on my default gateway adress
#2594 [16:44] <mr_boo> is it in the cmd?
#2595 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2596 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Should've been right below ipv4
#2597 [16:44] <mr_boo> it lists like 3 different ones. wich one
#2598 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> When you looked for ipv4, you had an address that was 192.168.x.y, yes?
#2599 [16:45] <mr_boo> yea. two of the lists have that
#2600 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Netgear usually uses 192.168.1.1
#2601 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Do you see that?
#2602 [16:47] <mr_boo> yea
#2603 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Using your browser, go to http://192.168.1.1
#2604 [16:47] <mr_boo> it has alot of letters above it. is that the address
#2605 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Log in with username: admin, password: password
#2606 [16:48] <mr_boo> ok ive done that
#2607 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Do you see a page for your router there?
#2608 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Has a bunch of options down the left side?
#2609 [16:49] <mr_boo> options under basic settings?
#2610 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> No, you'll want to then follow the directions here:
#2611 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WPN824v3/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2612 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to start with Port forwarding, under the advanced options
#2613 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> er, advanced heading
#2614 [16:50] <mr_boo> so i need to set up a static ip
#2615 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Would be recommended, but not needed.
#2616 [16:51] <mr_boo> ok im going to skip that part
#2617 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Start where it says "Click the Port Forwarding / Port Triggering link near the left of the page."
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#2620 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> The server ip address is the ipv4 address you got from ipconfig in your cmd prompt
#2621 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Starts with 192.168.1.x
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#2623 [16:52] <mr_boo> i dont see the port forwarding or port triggering link
#2624 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> It'll be on the left side, under "advanced"
#2625 [16:53] <mr_boo> service type?
#2626 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Add service, you'll want to define a custom service
#2627 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't use any of the default service ports
#2628 [16:54] <mr_boo> so where it says 192.168.1._ i need to put a 1?
#2629 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> No, it's whatever you had for ipv4 when you did ipconfig
#2630 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> 1.1 is the router that you're connecting to. You'll want to port forward to your computer's ip address
#2631 [16:55] <mr_boo> then add service
#2632 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Right
#2633 [16:56] <mr_boo> just checking, the service name is ftp?
#2634 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Um, no?
#2635 [16:56] <mr_boo> it has a dropdown box next to the server ip adress box. it has FTP selected.
#2636 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> When you added a service, you defined a custom service, with a name of whatever you wanted.
#2637 [16:56] <TheNoodle> mr_boo, running a minecraft server isn't for everyone.
#2638 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> FTP is not a custom service.
#2639 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Is there a button below that, that says "Add service" or "add custom service"?
#2640 [16:57] <mr_boo> edit add or delete service
#2641 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Add service then
#2642 [16:58] <mr_boo> ok im on a new page
#2643 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Service name, whatever you want, I would put in "Minecraft server"
#2644 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Port type, tcp/udp
#2645 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> port start/end 25565 to 25565
#2646 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> server ip address is your computer's ipv4 address
#2647 [16:59] <mr_boo> ok
#2648 [16:59] <mr_boo> hitting apply
#2649 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> Yup.
#2650 [16:59] <GreyVulpine> You should be all set with port forwarding then.
#2651 [17:00] <mr_boo> o wait i gotta add my service name.
#2652 [17:00] <mr_boo> it doesnt matter what i put there?
#2653 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't
#2654 [17:01] <mr_boo> ok its showing me everything ive put in
#2655 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> You should be done with port forwarding then.
#2656 [17:01] <mr_boo> so i can close it
#2657 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2658 [17:01] <GreyVulpine> Run the minecraft server, give your friends your public ip address (you can find it at www.whatismyip.com)
#2659 [17:02] <mr_boo> ok so i just need to go back to my minecraft server folder and click the start file?
#2660 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Start.. file?
#2661 [17:02] <GreyVulpine> Is it a file named "start-server.bat"?
#2662 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Oh wait, you said bukkit, yeah.
#2663 [17:03] <mr_boo> thats the long way of saying it but yes
#2664 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> I assume you went through bukkit's tutorial
#2665 [17:03] <mr_boo> umm i did a youtube tutorial.
#2666 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Meh.
#2667 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Just run it
#2668 [17:03] <mr_boo> anyway it still says perhaps theres a server running on that port
#2669 [17:04] <mr_boo> o nvm i never took the ip out of the spot im supposed to leave blank :P
#2670 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Did you forget to remove the ip address from server-ip in server.properties?
#2671 [17:04] <mr_boo> yes
#2672 [17:05] <mr_boo> my server isnt listed.
#2673 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> It wouldn't be listed at minecraft.net
#2674 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Those are classic servers only
#2675 [17:06] <mr_boo> no its not listed in my servers list, like it was in the vid
#2676 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> In your minecraft.exe?
#2677 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Those servers there, you need to add manually. They don't automatically populate
#2678 [17:07] <mr_boo> ok im trying direct connect but if that doesnt work im gonna try adding the server
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#2680 [17:08] <mr_boo> do i always need to type localhost?
#2681 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Only from connecting with the same computer that you're running the server on
#2682 [17:08] <CrusaderDeleters> wow, the german word for illegal is.... illegal >.>?
#2683 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> For your friends, you'll want to give them your public ip address of:
#2684 [17:09] <CrusaderDeleters> woops, didnt mean to post here
#2685 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> :ip mr_boo
#2686 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> ;ip mr_boo
#2687 [17:09] <WugBot> IP address of mr_boo is: 98.249.116.134
#2688 [17:09] <scooby> hey! I was hoping some one could help me. I can't run minecraft. When i try to run it it just says; "Too many failed login attemps". Any solution?
#2689 [17:09] <mr_boo> ok so i dont need to add the server. but do i always need the batch file running?
#2690 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> scooby - Nothing you can do there but wait
#2691 [17:09] <scooby> wait? :o
#2692 [17:09] * GreyVulpine nods
#2692 [17:10] <scooby> on what exactly? :p
#2693 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Either the login server's screwed up, or your account is being brute forced by somebody. Either way, that account was locked out for protection, and the only way to remove it is to wait for that lockout to expire
#2694 [17:11] <mr_boo> ok so do i always need to have the batch file running?
#2695 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> mr_boo - To have the server running? Yes
#2696 [17:11] <scooby> Ohh.. But i can run it in the browser?
#2697 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> scooby - Either way..
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#2700 [17:13] <mr_boo> that sucks. is there any way i can have the file running but not have it showing in the bar that shows what i have open?
#2701 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> No
#2702 [17:15] <mr_boo> so if im running it and shut it down, when i come back, everything will still be there?
#2703 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2704 [17:16] <mr_boo> ok thank you very much! i finally made a server thanks to you
#2705 [17:16] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2705 [17:16] <mr_boo> well im off!
#2706 [17:18] <Iridium> do i want python 2 or 3?
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#2709 [17:19] <TheNoodle> I use 2.7 but you should probably start learning 3.
#2710 [17:19] <TheNoodle> Alot of tutorials won't make sense though.
#2711 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> http://www.cse.msu.edu/~cse231/CSE_231_Software.html
#2712 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> See ^
#2713 [17:19] <Iridium> ah ok
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#2715 [17:25] <mohawk> Hi, when I make minecraft fullscreen, it works, but when i try to fullscreen out, it gives me a black screen. When i ctrl-alt-delete, I get back to my desktop and it says Java has changed my Windows theme. what do i do?
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#2718 [17:27] <wittie2m> hi all, hate to be a bother but I keep getting the "to many failed logins" error, is there a fix, I mean I can log in through the browser but not the client
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#2721 [17:29] <mib_ljp8rh> will there be anymore updates after the fullversion well more fetures?
#2722 [17:29] <sirwillis> Hello, does anyone know if there's a fix for the "too many failed login attempts" yet?
#2723 [17:29] <mib_ljp8rh> nah
#2724 [17:30] <mib_ljp8rh> not yet
#2725 [17:30] <wittie2m> i'm getting the same Sirwillis, no idea on a fix :/
#2726 [17:30] <mohawk> Hi, when I make minecraft fullscreen, it works, but when i try to fullscreen out, it gives me a black screen. When i ctrl-alt-delete, I get back to my desktop and it says Java has changed my Windows theme. what do i do?
#2727 [17:30] <sirwillis> alright, guess i'll just be patient
#2728 [17:31] <wittie2m> is this a common occurance?
#2729 [17:31] <sirwillis> no, I believe this jsut recently started occurring
#2730 [17:32] <sirwillis> oh, were you talking to mohawk?
#2731 [17:32] <wittie2m> no, sorry I mean for the to many failed logins error
#2732 [17:32] <sirwillis> ah, yeah i think this just started happening
#2733 [17:32] <mib_ljp8rh> will there be anymore updates after the fullversion well more fetures?
#2734 [17:32] <sirwillis> maybe its because im on my mac, and not my pc
#2735 [17:33] <sirwillis> mib_ljp8rh notch said he plans to release expansions
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#2737 [17:33] <sirwillis> and of course the bug fixes will still occur
#2738 [17:34] <mib_ljp8rh> what are they
#2739 [17:34] <mib_ljp8rh> so more fetures does it cost more money?
#2740 [17:34] <mib_ljp8rh> so will servers be updated with expansions
#2741 [17:35] <sirwillis> if you have an alpha account, they will be free expansion. If you have a beta account or later, I believe you will have to pay for them
#2742 [17:35] <mib_ljp8rh> really -_-
#2743 [17:35] <sirwillis> fo realz
#2744 [17:36] <Iridium> :D that's awesome
#2745 [17:36] <Iridium> i managed to get in the alst minute of alpha
#2746 [17:36] <mib_ljp8rh> thats bullshit we payed enough money for beta so why pay more expansions -_-
#2747 [17:36] <Iridium> but my brother bought beta
#2748 [17:36] <wittie2m> expansions will surely be a fair way down the pipe though
#2749 [17:36] <sirwillis> you still got a discount from the full game
#2750 [17:36] <sirwillis> exactly
#2751 [17:36] <Iridium> that information has just made my day
#2752 [17:36] <sirwillis> i'm sure notch will release free things also
#2753 [17:37] <sirwillis> :P
#2754 [17:37] <sirwillis> WHOA
#2755 [17:37] <mib_ljp8rh> a very small dicount
#2756 [17:37] <sirwillis> that is a crazy silly face
#2757 [17:37] <sirwillis> :P :P: P: P
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#2764 [18:07] <onix> okay i have windows xp and minecraft keeps cutting off also im having a problem with the OpenAL64 thing
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#2766 [18:09] <onix> Hello?
#2767 [18:11] <onix> UH!
#2768 [18:11] <Wug> minecraft is in beta and as such is subject to performance issues on 32 bit systems because it uses memory inefficiently
#2769 [18:12] <Wug> there is probably not much you can do about it
#2770 [18:12] <onix> does that go with the OpenAL64 thing?
#2771 [18:14] <onix> cause when it says that and when i play i have no sound
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#2774 [18:16] <onix> ???
#2775 [18:16] <Touyaa> I'm just reading though some stuff sorry
#2776 [18:18] <Touyaa> I was wondering what videocard it takes to run the 8.1? did they switch it during the transition from 7.8?
#2777 [18:19] <onix> I just got minecraft, sorry but do you know the problem with the OpenAL64.dll?
#2778 [18:21] <Touyaa> Well not the title page but once I start to load a preavious world or create a new world It loads up and then just goes to a black screen Xp and flashes a popup of the problem thats ocurring for about a /5th of a second
#2779 [18:21] <Touyaa> typo's Xp
#2780 [18:22] <onix> do you have windows?
#2781 [18:22] <Touyaa> Nope mac
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#2783 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> if you're running 10.5 or earlier, there's a known incompatibility with minecraft 1.8
#2784 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Fixed in 1.9
#2785 [18:22] <sirwillis> failed login screen still being dumb?
#2786 [18:22] <onix> does that go for windows too? I have XP
#2787 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> No
#2788 [18:24] <onix> well i dont know whats wrong everytime I get on it cuts off 1 min into the game and before The title screen pops up us says somthing about File OpenAL64.dll then when I click okay and play I have no sound!
#2789 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> Tried a force update through the launcher?
#2790 [18:24] <onix> yes
#2791 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> How about manually updating OpenAL yourself?
#2792 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/Downloads/Forms/AllItems.aspx
#2793 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Download and install the one for windows. Once you install it, copy the OpenAL.dll file from C:\windows\system32 over to %appdata%/.minecraft/bin/natives
#2794 [18:27] <Touyaa> Ty btw even if I get to wait still nice knowing I just have to wait, caio people
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#2796 [18:35] <onix> okay I downladed the creative labs I looked and still the specific AL Im looking for is not there
#2797 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> onix - Did you install it?
#2798 [18:37] <onix> yes hold on let me do it again
#2799 [18:37] <Jammy> before i head off is there a guide on how to do a 2 piston door, one above one before that uses a button to open it? if so can someone give me a link please? :P
#2800 [18:38] <onix> okay it says it is installed
#2801 [18:38] <Jammy> preferably a button not attached to one of the 3 torches that are being used to achieve vertical
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#2804 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> onix - Did you copy the openAL file from your windows/system32 folder?
#2805 [18:41] <onix> Its in stalled and I went to system 32 all I see is OpenAL32 not 64
#2806 [18:42] <onix> only 32 but I need 64 the bin says I alredy have it but my computer dosent it says It doesent exsist
#2807 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Then uh, grab it from lwjgl
#2808 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> http://lwjgl.org/download.php
#2809 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> Download lwjgl 2.8.1.zip, you'll find it in the natives folder
#2810 [18:48] <onix> I found IT!!! so i copy on to system 32 then to the minecraft bin right?
#2811 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2812 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> er, bin/natives/
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#2815 [18:49] <mib_l2ut0j> hello
#2816 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2817 [18:49] <Beaky> Hello
#2818 [18:50] <mib_l2ut0j> has anyone had problems with the audio on mindcraft?
#2819 [18:50] <mib_l2ut0j> I am playing on a macbook pro
#2820 [18:51] <Beaky> Ive just bought minecraft but cant get it to run on my computer can you suggest what i might be doing wrong
#2821 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> mib_l2ut0j - Don't use a mac myself, couldn't tell you.
#2822 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Beaky - What is happening exactly? Do you get any errors?
#2823 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> Beaky: what happens when you try to run it precisely?
#2824 [18:52] <Beaky> yeah
#2825 [18:52] <Beaky> it says it cant find the publisher.
#2826 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Are you playing minecraft in the browser or on the downloaded client?
#2827 [18:52] <wittie2m> any fix for the to many failed login attempts error yet?
#2828 [18:53] <mib_l2ut0j> I have no errors, but also no audio. No sound effects or music. I have tried restarting it and dowlinding it agen. + tweeking with the audio.
#2829 [18:53] <Beaky> iu cant get it working on any of them
#2830 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_l2ut0j - Check that you have files in /users/yourname/Library/Application Support/minecraft/resources
#2831 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> mib_l2ut0j - If not, please do a force update through the launcher
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#2833 [18:53] <GreyVulpine> Beaky - Both in-browser and downloaded won't work?
#2834 [18:54] <mib_l2ut0j> maybe I can try browser version.
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#2836 [18:54] <mib_l2ut0j> I have only tried the downloaded version
#2837 [18:55] <Piwix> could someone help me with minecraft classic connection problem? I cant connect to any classic server
#2838 [18:55] <mib_l2ut0j> if not I will ask for more help or see if I can find documents of others having problems with the same thing
#2839 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Piwix - Check your security software or firewall solution, make sure java isn't being blocked through there.
#2840 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Try a different browser.
#2841 [18:56] <Piwix> ok ill try that
#2842 [18:58] <Piwix> well new browser didnt work, and ive tried a 3rd party software too
#2843 [18:59] <Piwix> ill check java through firewall
#2844 [18:59] <Piwix> java seems to be ok on the firewall..
#2845 [18:59] <Sardonicus> why are my 2 portals connected tothe same one in Nether? The 2 portals have 200 blocksinbetweem them on one axis.
#2846 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> Sardonicus - Because minecraft hates you.
#2847 [19:00] <Sardonicus> = 25 blocks in Nether
#2848 [19:00] <Sardonicus> some serious answer pls...
#2849 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Also, it happens.
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#2851 [19:00] <Piwix> portals will connect if they are so close together
#2852 [19:00] <Strottinglemon> Hello? I found a bug.
#2853 [19:00] <Sardonicus> You call that too close?!?
#2854 [19:00] <Morrolan> Sardonicus: There's a nice explanation on the wiki about this behavriour, might explain it.
#2855 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Yeah
#2856 [19:00] <Sardonicus> 200 blocks
#2857 [19:00] <Piwix> yes
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#2859 [19:00] <Morrolan> behavriou*
#2860 [19:00] <Morrolan> gosh
#2861 [19:00] <Morrolan> behaviour*
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#2863 [19:00] <Morrolan> I love you too, VoxelHead
#2864 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Strottinglemon - Bug reports go to getsatisfaction.com/mojang or the wiki
#2865 [19:01] <Strottinglemon> Whenever I try to log in to Minecraft, it tells me: Too Many Failed Logins and tells me to play offline or try again. ???
#2866 [19:01] <Meepy> same here
#2867 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Strottinglemon - All you can do there, is wait.
#2868 [19:01] <Sardonicus> Morrolan, my connection would need to much time to load wiki, can't you just say what's the minimum distance?
#2869 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Nothing you, nor we can do about it
#2870 [19:01] <Sardonicus> *too
#2871 [19:01] <Strottinglemon> Well crap... oh well, thanks anyways.
#2872 [19:02] <Morrolan> Sardonicus: I'm having a hard time believing this. HOwever, I can't tell you, because I never took the time to read through that part. I don't even think there's a hard limit. If you really want I can send you the corresponding part of the article.
#2873 [19:03] <Beaky> Basically i've bought minecraft, i can get on the minecraft launcher and put in my username and password but it then goes to a black and silver screen.
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#2876 [19:03] <Morrolan> Beaky: Did you install any mods? And did it ever work before?
#2877 [19:03] <Sardonicus> Morrolan, it's true, I'm using a mobile phone connection. Just give me the direct link to the article, lol, so I don't have to search.
#2878 [19:04] <Beaky> i dont think so but i fored the update.
#2879 [19:04] <Morrolan> Sardonicus: That'd be it: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether_Portal#Linkage_between_Overworld_and_Nether
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#2881 [19:04] <Sardonicus> thx
#2882 [19:04] <Morrolan> Especially the second part, "Implications", might help you further. ALso, I really should read through it once I think. ^^
#2883 [19:06] <Beaky> anyone there
#2884 [19:06] <Morrolan> No, Beaky, you're all alone here.
#2885 [19:06] <Beaky> oh no
#2886 [19:06] <Beaky> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#2887 [19:06] <Morrolan> Oh, yea, Vox is here, but the only thing he does is musting people.
#2888 [19:06] <Morrolan> muting*
#2889 [19:07] <onix> OKay still haveing prob,ems
#2890 [19:07] <Beaky> hheellpp
#2891 [19:07] <Morrolan> [01:03:30] <@Morrolan> Beaky: Did you install any mods? And did it ever work before?
#2892 [19:08] <Morrolan> Oh, I see your response, sorry.
#2893 [19:08] <Morrolan> And it never worked before?
#2894 [19:08] <Sardonicus> Hm ok now I know how it's working...
#2895 [19:08] <Beaky> no i just bought it
#2896 [19:08] <Morrolan> Beaky: Ok. Are you on Mac, Windows or Linux?
#2897 [19:08] <Sardonicus> so it are 128 blocks distance :S
#2898 [19:08] <Morrolan> Sardonicus: Ah, ok. :)
#2899 [19:08] <Beaky> windows
#2900 [19:08] <Sardonicus> Can't believe it's that much
#2901 [19:09] <Morrolan> Beaky: Ok, lemme dig up some instructions.
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#2904 [19:11] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine: There is some Pastebin with instructions on how to launch Minecraft.jar through the console on Windows somewhere, happen to have a link to it?
#2905 [19:11] <Morrolan> Don't have the bookmark on my PC it seems.
#2906 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#2907 [19:11] * Morrolan bows
#2907 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> I seriously need to rewrite that someday
#2908 [19:12] <Morrolan> Beaky: Please follow the instructions in that Pastebin GreyVulpine gave me. When you then get a blackscreen it will show you an error in the console - paste that error on www.pastebin.com and give us the error please.
#2909 [19:13] <Beaky> thx to all
#2910 [19:14] <Morrolan> Once you posted the url to the error here someone will help you further. As for me - I'm off. G'night
#2911 [19:19] <onix> Okay still having problems with AL63 T_T
#2912 [19:20] <onix> 64*
#2913 [19:20] <almostroot> ??< giftcode
#2914 [19:21] <onix> it says its not a valid image
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#2916 [19:22] <Shmoflo> So are a lot of people getting the Too many failed logins error?
#2917 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2918 [19:22] <Shmoflo> Any Solution to it yet?
#2919 [19:22] <onix> Grey it saus AL64 is not a valid image
#2920 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Shmoflo - Other than waiting, no
#2921 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> onix - What says that, exactly?
#2922 [19:23] <Shmoflo> Been waiting for around 5 hours now
#2923 [19:23] <onix> hold on let me type it
#2924 [19:25] <onix> The Application or DLL C:\Documents and Settings\User name\Application Data\.minecraft\bin\natives\OpenAL64.dll is not a valid windows image. Please check this against your installation diskette
#2925 [19:25] <onix> Also... the same thing says it only for system 32
#2926 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. what is saying that?
#2927 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> How exactly are you getting that error?
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#2929 [19:27] <onix> I downloaded minecraft for windows and when I click on the Icon it goes to the launcher I click play offline and it goes to the MOjang loading screen and before it gets to mine craft the error pops up
#2930 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> Why are you playing offline? Are you not able to log in successfully?
#2931 [19:28] <onix> yes it saus can not connect to mincraft.net
#2932 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Well then, that's different..
#2933 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Have you been able to log in successfully before?
#2934 [19:30] <onix> no first time i bought it was sunday and i coudlnt get online
#2935 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> onix - Did you pirate minecraft before paying for it?
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#2937 [19:31] <onix> no but my cousin got on and went to this one site where he got the launcher but couldnt get on
#2938 [19:31] <Denis> hi I need help setting up a Multiplayer server and ive tried everything its told me and it wont work
#2939 [19:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Denis: I'll take you
#2940 [19:31] <Denis> ok
#2941 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> onix - If he didn't get minecraft from minecraft.net, it was most likely a pirated copy
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#2943 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> so, it says "Connection: Cannot Connect"?
#2944 [19:32] <Denis> Yep
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#2946 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Portforward.com. It helps you out. :)
#2947 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> onix - Could you give me a copy of the contents of your hosts file?
#2948 [19:32] <Denis> ok thanks ill try it out :D
#2949 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Just follow the rules.
#2950 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> ??> onix win/hosts
#2951 [19:32] <VoxelHead> onix: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2952 [19:32] <VoxelHead> onix: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2953 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh god.
#2954 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> It could go a bad way, grey XD
#2955 [19:33] <a123adamh> can some one help me when I log in to mine craft it say too many failed logins
#2956 [19:33] <CrusaderDeleters> First time tryiong to log in?
#2957 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> a123adamh - Nothing you can do but wait. The login server's still a bit screwy
#2958 [19:33] <a123adamh> no but i never fail a log in
#2959 [19:33] <onix> its not a virus site or anything right?
#2960 [19:33] <CrusaderDeleters> It's happening to me too; just wait
#2961 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> onix - No
#2962 [19:34] <CrusaderDeleters> I think the same thing could be happening to onix too, grey
#2963 [19:34] <CrusaderDeleters> but it may also not be.
#2964 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> It isn't
#2965 [19:34] <CrusaderDeleters> just use the web client, I guess. If that don't work, then just be patient.
#2966 [19:35] <a123adamh> does any one know how to fix it?
#2967 [19:35] <CrusaderDeleters> <19:34:26> <CrusaderDeleters> just use the web client, I guess. If that don't work, then just be patient.
#2968 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> Nothing we can do about it here. Use the in-browser client
#2969 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> Seems to work for most
#2970 [19:35] <Thunder7102> I just got 4 diamond and 5 gold in 5 minutes dynamite mining. It blew up the ore but left the diamond for me to pickup. Good idea to continue mining this way?
#2971 [19:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Not really. You just got lucky.
#2972 [19:35] <a123adamh> ok thanks bye
#2973 [19:35] <CrusaderDeleters> there's prolly 20 d's you coulda got.
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#2975 [19:36] <Thunder7102> Crusader, I used 4 dynamite..and in stone it does not blow up very much.
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#2977 [19:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Then use a pickaxe. :P
#2978 [19:36] <CrusaderDeleters> and get more d's. You have such a rich mining spot!
#2979 [19:36] <Thunder7102> But a pick is slow and does not make decent sized rooms as fast. :P
#2980 [19:37] <CrusaderDeleters> You dont have an Iron sword? :o
#2981 [19:37] <Thunder7102> I do but that does not make mining faster.
#2982 [19:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, I always go the efficient way. Once you get a Diamond pickaxe, just keep using that
#2983 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Cheat, give yourself 64 gold picks
#2984 [19:38] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#2985 [19:38] <CrusaderDeleters> plus 1 iron
#2986 [19:38] <Thunder7102> Gold is harder to find than diamond. :P But I can make a diamond pick, I have 13 diamond. I figure a pick is a good investment.
#2987 [19:38] <CrusaderDeleters> actually
#2988 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Don't make gold picks, save the gold for something else
#2989 [19:38] <CrusaderDeleters> d's are harder :P
#2990 [19:39] <Thunder7102> Well I have found more d's than gold so far. :P
#2991 [19:39] <CrusaderDeleters> gold is only useful for rails and blocks
#2992 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> gold picks are the fastest picks, but they wear out extremely fast
#2993 [19:39] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#2994 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Not worth spending gold on it
#2995 [19:39] <Thunder7102> 13 d's and 12 gold. And I need more rails.
#2996 [19:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Go cave mining
#2997 [19:40] <onix> Okay I copied the Hosts do you have a link for the sute you were talking about?
#2998 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com
#2999 [19:40] <onix> okay then what?
#3000 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> submit it, give us the address
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#3002 [19:43] <onix> http://pastebin.com/x5ud1Mv5
#3003 [19:43] <onix> there
#3004 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> That's lmhosts, not hosts
#3005 [19:45] <onix> dang
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#3007 [19:45] <onix> i dont have any hosts
#3008 [19:45] <onix> its not there
#3009 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure?
#3010 [19:46] <onix> yes its not in etc
#3011 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> What files are in windows/system32/drivers/etc?
#3012 [19:48] <onix> imhosts networks Protocol and services
#3013 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, are you able to pull up https:/login.minecraft.net using your browser, should say "bad login" if you can.
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#3016 [19:51] <onix> yeah it does
#3017 [19:51] <sockmister> is there anyone willing to help me with a computer problem before i mail it to acer? nothing to do with minecraft
#3018 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> onix - You said you were using windows, yes?
#3019 [19:51] <onix> XP not 7
#3020 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - Doubtful, since this is #minecrafthelp
#3021 [19:52] <sockmister> well what chanel should i go to then :/
#3022 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> onix - Does your windows username happen to contain a ! mark in it?
#3023 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - Not here, that's for sure.
#3024 [19:52] <sockmister> :(
#3025 [19:52] <onix> no
#3026 [19:52] <sockmister> well it is the computer i play minecraft on
#3027 [19:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Don't worry, I got this through pm.
#3028 [19:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Just going to give it a shot! :P
#3029 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> onix - Are you sure about that?
#3030 [19:53] <onix> by user name do you mean when I pull up my docuents and stuff?
#3031 [19:53] <onix> documents*
#3032 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> onix - Whatever username you use to log into your computer
#3033 [19:54] <sockmister> it takes over 5 minutes to turn on and when it does it says could not log you on
#3034 [19:54] <onix> No its just my regular name no ! marks
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#3036 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> onix - Could you go to your start menu, hit the Run command, and type in: %userprofile%
#3037 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> onix - Does the folder there have any exclaimation marks in it?
#3038 [19:56] <onix> No not at all
#3039 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> onix - What security software do you run?
#3040 [19:57] <onix> Avast antivirus, Hitman Pro and Malaware bytes
#3041 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Any firewalls?
#3042 [19:59] <onix> No not thay I know of
#3043 [19:59] <Thunder7102> how to you shoot a ton of arrows out of a bow at the same time?
#3044 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Thunder7102 - You can't, not without a mod
#3045 [20:00] <Thunder7102> :( I find people doing that in all YT vids. :P
#3046 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> onix - Your system time and date correct? Are you able to load minecraft in the browser at all?
#3047 [20:00] <onix> from the site?
#3048 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Thunder7102 - The bow's fire rate was recently changed. Before the implementation of the charge up, you could fire a bow rapidly
#3049 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> onix - Yes
#3050 [20:03] <onix> hold on
#3051 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Thunder7102: you can actually
#3052 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> by putting a bunch of bows into dispensers, and hooking them up to a redstone clock
#3053 [20:11] <onix> okay it can work on in browser but..
#3054 [20:11] <onix> its really slow
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#3056 [20:13] <Denisagain> hi i need help opping my self on a multiplayer server
#3057 [20:13] <onix> and it may turn up as a black screen or it will say something about the mempry
#3058 [20:13] <almostroot> ?? Denisagain smp/opyourself
#3059 [20:13] <almostroot> ??> Denisagain smp/opyourself
#3060 [20:13] <VoxelHead> Denisagain: (smp/opyourself) If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#3061 [20:13] <VoxelHead> Denisagain: (smp/opyourself) Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#3062 [20:14] <onix> Grey?
#3063 [20:15] <Denisagain> but i've tried that both ways like i need to put just blank my (username) no parentheses in the ops list on the text file and /op (username) no parentheses right?
#3064 [20:15] <Denisagain> on the server
#3065 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> onix - You most likely have some sort of firewall or security software blocking the downloaded minecraft from connecting. The browser uses the same files. If it's slow on the browser, it'll be slow on the downloaded client as well
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#3067 [20:15] <dr_bibble> !check
#3068 [20:16] <dr_bibble> MA SERVER WORKS GUYS!
#3069 [20:16] <onix> hm okay so can i name some programs to you to see if its one of them?
#3070 [20:16] <Denisagain> and voxel i can remove stuff near spawn bt away from it and the give command doesnt work
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#3072 [20:18] <Denisagain> so can you help me?
#3073 [20:18] <empirebattles> Anyone else experiencing "Too many failed logins"? (has anyone figured out why this is randomly happening to certain accounts? )
#3074 [20:18] <onix> okay I have Orgin which came with EA i think....
#3075 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> empirebattles - Login server having problems. use the in-browser client in the meantime. Reported to still work for most
#3076 [20:19] <Denisagain> even /spawn command doesnt work
#3077 [20:20] <onix> I might just have to go on my moms computer she has windows 7 and its up to date sooo
#3078 [20:20] <Denisagain> hello?
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#3080 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Denisagain - Are you using a modded server?
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#3082 [20:26] <ItsMeYaniv> Someone here?
#3083 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#3084 [20:26] <Meepy> I have the "too many logins" ...I had to delete my .minecraft folder and launch it in a browers...works now
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#3086 [20:29] <Matsuka> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 -------- Generated 10/18/1
#3087 [20:29] <Matsuka> Can someone help me out?
#3088 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> pastebin.com it please
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#3090 [20:30] <Matsuka> Alright? But I mean MC isn't working when I try to play both in browser and otherwise
#3091 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Matsuka - If you post the error on pastebin.com, we can actually read it. Right now, that error report is incomplete
#3092 [20:33] <Matsuka> I did so
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#3094 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Please give us the URL to it?
#3095 [20:33] <Matsuka> http://pastebin.com/4tS9ZCYA
#3096 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, can never remember if this was a java or video driver problem
#3097 [20:35] * NDHerman97 [NDHerman97@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3098 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> I believe it was a video driver problem. Have you updated your video drivers?
#3099 [20:35] * |Kiikun|Janus| [|Kiikun|Janus|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3100 [20:35] <Matsuka> Yes. Recently, actually
#3101 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> From?
#3102 [20:36] <NDHerman97> Hello? I'm not sure how this works. Can I get in the queue to get some help?
#3103 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> NDHerman97 - Just tell us what exactly your problem is. Be as precise as possible.
#3104 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Matsuka - Where did you update your ivdeo drivers from?
#3105 [20:37] <NDHerman97> I'm running XP, and when I try to login to Minecraft, it looks like it is logging in (I use the right UID/PW, and it says its' downloading stuff)
#3106 [20:37] <NDHerman97> then it just goes away and leaves a long error log in my game folder.
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#3108 [20:37] <NDHerman97> The error log is a bunch of java stuff that I can't quite decipher
#3109 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> NDHerman97 - Please copy the contents of that error report, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the address to it after you pressed Submit
#3110 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> We'll be able to decipher it for you
#3111 [20:38] <Matsuka> Intel G45/G43 Express chipset
#3112 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Matsuka - From where did you update the drivers for that?
#3113 [20:38] <NDHerman97> http://pastebin.com/X6A1Kpg5
#3114 [20:38] <Matsuka> On intel's site
#3115 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> Matsuka - Hmm, have you done a full and complete uninstall/reinstall of java?
#3116 [20:39] <Matsuka> No
#3117 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Matsuka - Could you try that?
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#3120 [20:39] <Matsuka> Hah. Yes, I'll try it
#3121 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> NDHerman97 - Looks like your ATI video drivers are at fault, do you know how to update it?
#3122 [20:40] <Flavio1302> Hi
#3123 [20:40] <Will_EP897> Just purchased Minecraft giving me video card error say I do not have up to date Drivers. Which I do. Help?
#3124 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Will_EP897 - Update your video card's drivers
#3125 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> If you've updated them, tell us what card you have, and from where you downloaded.
#3126 [20:42] <Flavio1302> Hey, every time i run myminecraft, wen the word finish loading, i get a black window and i can not even move the mouse until it close automaticaly, im not using any mods
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#3128 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Flavio1302 - What operating system are you on? Has minecraft worked before?
#3129 [20:43] <Will_EP897> AMD Radeon HD 6870. Up to date drivers from the AMD official site
#3130 [20:43] <NDHerman98> oops... kinda crashed myself there... I do have updated video drivers... in fact, minecraft was working fine until I updated them.
#3131 [20:43] <Flavio1302> Im on windows Xp, and yeah, it worked until 1.8.1
#3132 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> NDHerman97 - Did you download the latest stable drivers, or did you use some sort of beta drivers?
#3133 [20:43] <wittie2m> any fix for the to many failed logins error yet? ^^
#3134 [20:43] <NDHerman98> odd thing I noticed was that I have the same thing twice
#3135 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> wittie2m - Nope
#3136 [20:44] <wittie2m> damn
#3137 [20:44] <NDHerman98> I got the latest from Radeon
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#3139 [20:44] <wittie2m> back to the browser version for me
#3140 [20:44] <Flavio1302> Well, i tried, but my video card kinda os sucks
#3141 [20:44] <NDHerman98> I have a Radeon 9250. In my device manager, I have a radeon 9250, and a radeon 9250 - secondary
#3142 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> NDHerman98 - Could you try uninstalling your drivers, and reinstalling it fresh?
#3143 [20:44] <NDHerman98> dunno why it's in there twice, but it crashed when I uninstalled the secondary, restarted the comp, and automatically re-installed the secondary
#3144 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> NDHerman98 - The error report's clearly stating something wrong with the your ATI drivers
#3145 [20:44] <NDHerman98> OK
#3146 [20:45] <NDHerman98> but I only have one vidcard... dunno why it has a regular and a secondary
#3147 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Flavio1302 - If you've updated your video card's drivers, and you're still getting that error, your video card may be too old to run minecraft
#3148 [20:45] <Flavio1302> Yeah, but i did ok until 1.8.1
#3149 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Flavio1302 - 1.8.1 slightly increased the video requirements.
#3150 [20:46] <Flavio1302> i see....well, i guess i will have to wait until i get a better PC, thanks for helping me! bye
#3151 [20:50] <NDHerman98> I'm going to try to uninstall the display drivers so I can reinstall them now that I have downloaded them again.
#3152 [20:51] <NDHerman98> Thanks for your help if I get d/c'd again!
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#3154 [20:54] * DopeGhoti watches folks play with the revolving door
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#3156 [20:59] <Denisagain> ok greyvulpine im back i dont have a modded server
#3157 [21:00] <Denisagain> hey dope can you help me
#3158 [21:01] <Denisagain> hello
#3159 [21:01] <Denisagain> ???
#3160 [21:01] * TheNoodle waves
#3160 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> If you don't have a modded server, there is no /spawn command.
#3161 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> /give only works if you're an op.
#3162 [21:02] <Denisagain> but it wont let my make myself op and its my server
#3163 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try to op yourself then?
#3164 [21:02] <Denisagain> absolutely nothing D;
#3165 [21:02] <DopeGhoti> Denisagain: how are you trying to op yourself?
#3166 [21:03] <Denisagain> in the notepad i put my username and in the game i put /op 1208di98
#3167 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> okay
#3168 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> stop the server
#3169 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> open ops.txt
#3170 [21:03] <Denisagain> username im sorry 1208di98 is my name
#3171 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> add your username
#3172 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> save and exit
#3173 [21:03] <Denisagain> i did
#3174 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> then start eh server
#3175 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> !paid 1208di98
#3176 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> interesting name
#3177 [21:04] <Denisagain> in the java thing its says
#3178 [21:05] <Denisagain> <username> tried command: op
#3179 [21:05] <Denisagain> op 1208di98
#3180 [21:05] <Denisagain> and i dont know what to do please help
#3181 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> it says "<username>..."
#3182 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> that exactly?
#3183 [21:05] <Denisagain> well it says my username with no < symbols
#3184 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> okay
#3185 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> and you followed my directions exactly
#3186 [21:06] <Denisagain> the file is call op and its a text document right?
#3187 [21:06] <TheNoodle> Coorect.
#3188 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> 1> stop server, 2> edit ops.txt, 3> save ops.txt, 4> start server
#3189 [21:06] <TheNoodle> *correct
#3190 [21:07] <Denisagain> ok and just put my username no symbols
#3191 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> Correct.
#3192 [21:07] <Denisagain> in the ops.txt
#3193 [21:07] <Denisagain> k
#3194 [21:08] <Iridium> is there a way to get water to stop but items to still flow off it before the 7m mark?
#3195 [21:09] <Denisagain> i would love you but im not gay :D
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#3197 [21:09] <Denisagain> is there a time/days mod?
#3198 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Iridium - A sign or ladder would stop water flow
#3199 [21:09] <Denisagain> i mean a days night changer command?
#3200 [21:09] <Iridium> so if i put sign with a 1 block drop after it items would flow into that drop?
#3201 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> __
#3202 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> |
#3203 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> put the sign on the |
#3204 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> water will flow off the edge but not down the wall
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#3208 [21:24] <Thunder7102> what si the best way to find a zombie dungeon when I hear them...but it sounds like it is all around me.
#3209 [21:24] <TheNoodle> Mine in ALL the directions!
#3210 [21:24] <Thunder7102> :P
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#3212 [21:26] <NDHerman97> Hello again... I updated my vid drivers, and still get what looks like the same error log.
#3213 [21:27] <NDHerman97> Do you know if a Radeon 9250 can support this game?
#3214 [21:27] <NDHerman97> It used to, but I heard you tell someone else that the latest version requires a little bit more in the video department.
#3215 [21:27] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Thunder7102: doesnt always means a dungeon... io tend to find caves more often then dungeons doing that :P
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#3217 [21:28] <|Kiikun|Janus|> NDHerman97: 1.8 needs OpenGL 1.3.
#3218 [21:29] <NDHerman97> Is that something else I can download, or a capability my vidcard needs?
#3219 [21:30] <NDHerman97> according to wikipedia, a Radeon 9250 has opengl 1.3
#3220 [21:30] <NDHerman97> er... radeon 9250 supports it, anyway...
#3221 [21:30] <|Kiikun|Janus|> its a capability of the video card drivers. make sure its updated?
#3222 [21:31] <NDHerman97> I just downloaded and installed the latest from radeon
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#3224 [21:31] <NDHerman97> (which was the same as what I already had installed)
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#3228 [21:37] <NDHerman97> I found some OpenGL settings in the advanced settings for the ATI Control Center
#3229 [21:37] <NDHerman97> Is there anything I should set there?
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#3231 [21:38] <NDHerman97> the only options really are "Triple buffering" and "Force 24-bit"
#3232 [21:38] <|Kiikun|Janus|> its not a setting issue.
#3233 [21:38] <calatalee> hello?
#3234 [21:39] <NDHerman97> Well, supposedly my vidcard supports OpenGL 1.3, and I just installed the latest driver.
#3235 [21:39] <NDHerman97> Someone on this forum said it was definitely a vidcard issue, based on the errorlog.
#3236 [21:39] <|Kiikun|Janus|> NDHerman97: you can check exactly what is supported with http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/
#3237 [21:39] <NDHerman97> Seems odd to me that the same vidcard that plays WoW fine can't handle Terraria and Minecraft. :/
#3238 [21:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> wow = directx, minecraft = opengl
#3239 [21:40] * frogzilla [frogzilla@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3240 [21:40] <|Kiikun|Janus|> entirely different rendering technologies
#3241 [21:40] <TheNytangel> NDHerman97..
#3242 [21:40] <frogzilla> hey my minecraft is lagging, just bought it what should I do?
#3243 [21:41] <|Kiikun|Janus|> plus wow was designed to run on the crappiest hardware blizard coudl find
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#3245 [21:42] <|Kiikun|Janus|> frogzilla: lower settings, close other applications
#3246 [21:42] <TheNytangel> |Kiikun|Janus|, I just got an idea..
#3247 [21:44] <|Kiikun|Janus|> TheNytangel: you are banned use of superglue
#3248 [21:44] * TheNoodle holds a lightbuild above TheNytangel's head
#3248 [21:44] <TheNytangel> :(
#3249 [21:44] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, it isn't lit
#3250 [21:44] <NDHerman97> OK, I was able to confirm my card does have 1.3
#3251 [21:44] <NDHerman97> and I did just reinstall the latest drivers
#3252 [21:44] <NDHerman97> what else might cause a vidcard error like that I reported earlier?
#3253 [21:44] * TheNoodle looks at the bulb.
#3253 [21:45] <Iridium> just stick a redstone torch on the side of it noodle
#3254 [21:45] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, you didn't plug it in
#3255 [21:45] * TheNoodle goes mining for redstone
#3255 [21:46] <Iridium> oh god, what've we done?
#3256 [21:46] <TheNoodle> I'll get that torch lit! don't worry TheNytangel!
#3257 [21:46] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??
#3258 [21:47] <TheNytangel> Hmm.
#3259 [21:48] <NDHerman97> I guess it's time for me to give up on getting Minecraft working?
#3260 [21:49] <Iridium> never give up!
#3261 [21:49] <Iridium> don't back down
#3262 [21:49] <NDHerman97> Heh. I like that attitude. ;)
#3263 [21:49] <|Kiikun|Janus|> stand your ground!
#3264 [21:49] <NDHerman97> I just... need to get some sleep, and I'm not finding any great insights here.
#3265 [21:49] <|Kiikun|Janus|> and... i think there was a flag for trying to render in software mode <.<
#3266 [21:49] <NDHerman97> Confirmation that it's a video issue...
#3267 [21:49] <NDHerman97> a flag?
#3268 [21:50] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :softwareopengl
#3269 [21:50] <TheNytangel> NDHerman97, you didn't answer my pm yet >.>
#3270 [21:50] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :softgl
#3271 [21:50] <NDHerman97> um... I haven't seen a pm
#3272 [21:50] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :/
#3273 [21:50] <TheNytangel> I sent you a pm..
#3274 [21:50] <TheNytangel> Look harder
#3275 [21:50] <NDHerman97> I believe you... now I'm looking for one
#3276 [21:54] <Iridium> why can't we farm flowers? :(#
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#3278 [21:54] <Slusie> Need some help please :D
#3279 [21:54] * frabs [frabs@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3280 [21:55] <frabs> my mc breaks alot...
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#3282 [21:55] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Iridium: bonemeal on grass
#3283 [21:55] <TheNytangel> Bleh
#3284 [21:55] <TheNytangel> Fu internet
#3285 [21:55] <Slusie> Just found the largest coal mine in my game that I have ever seen, It won't let me mine it? Anyone know why?
#3286 [21:56] <Iridium> yeah i know that but i mean, i want flower seeds and all that business
#3287 [21:56] <TheNytangel> It hates you
#3288 [21:56] <TheNytangel> Iridium, no
#3289 [21:56] <NDHerman97> So I'm guessing you didn't get all those PMs I sent you, Nyt? :D
#3290 [21:56] <TheNytangel> NDHerman97, yes I did :P
#3291 [21:56] <Iridium> no? what do you mean no?
#3292 [21:56] <frabs> has anyone opened their inv, chest, etc. and had the background fade to black and freeze?
#3293 [21:56] <TheNytangel> Iridium, you get a flower once
#3294 [21:56] * mib_u11qtb [mib_u11qtb@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3295 [21:56] <Iridium> i realise that, but i want flower farming to be implimented
#3296 [21:57] <Iridium> don't you think that'd be a good thing?
#3297 [21:57] <TheNytangel> Iridium, unlimited dyes? Nah..
#3298 [21:58] <Iridium> well with a mob spawner they are infinite anyway but i want them for decorate purpose
#3299 [21:58] <Iridium> decorative*
#3300 [21:59] <Iridium> i mean a mob trap not spawner :P
#3301 [21:59] <Thunder7102> ok, after seriously mining, I have WAY too much cobblestone. What do you guys all do with it?
#3302 [21:59] <NDHerman97> Thanks anyway guys.
#3303 [21:59] <TheNytangel> Thunder7102, furnaces, weapons, tools
#3304 [22:00] <Thunder7102> I have an entire doublechest full of stacks of 64...
#3305 [22:00] <TheNytangel> Thunder7102, and if you put it IN a furnace, you make smooth stone
#3306 [22:00] <Thunder7102> I know you can make that other stone, but doesn't that take a ton of coal to burn all of mine?
#3307 [22:01] <Thunder7102> seems like a waste for just decoration.
#3308 [22:01] <TheNytangel> Thunder7102, 1 piece of coal cooks 8 items
#3309 [22:01] <TheNytangel> Thunder7102, 1 lava bucket cooks 100 items
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#3311 [22:01] <Thunder7102> lavabucket! forgot about that.
#3312 [22:02] <TheNytangel> Thunder7102, build a.. giant.. cobblestone building
#3313 [22:03] <Thunder7102> lol. My world is a giant island with tons of hills. I thought about making a kingdom but I would have to level everything first.
#3314 [22:03] <TheNytangel> Thunder7102, that's what mods are for.. with buildcraft, you can use the filler, put all glass in, supply it with energy, and it does it for you :D
#3315 [22:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Thunder7102: build a sky-island :P
#3316 [22:04] <Thunder7102> Skyislands only look good if you build them with dirt....and even then, if you do not connect it to a mountain, it does not get grass to look good.
#3317 [22:04] <Iridium> does grass not spread upwards?
#3318 [22:04] <TheNytangel> Yes it does
#3319 [22:04] <Thunder7102> Only if you make a staircase.
#3320 [22:04] <TheNytangel> But dirt needs to be connected to grass
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#3322 [22:05] <|Kiikun|Janus|> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Grass#Growth
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#3325 [22:06] <Aleksandr> If you havin bear problems, I feel bad for you son.
#3326 [22:06] <Aleksandr> I got 48 bears and they all on the run.
#3327 [22:06] <Aleksandr> Owner of Zanesville exotic animal farm found dead, but not b4 all animals r released. Lions, tigers, giraffes, bears, wolves on the loose.
#3328 [22:06] <TheNytangel> There.. are no bears in minecraft?
#3329 [22:06] <Aleksandr> Come to my town, we can punch trees, make dirt houses, see bears, giraffes, etc.
#3330 [22:07] <Aleksandr> Mind you, I'm in middle of freakin' Ohio.
#3331 [22:07] <TheNytangel> Mind YOU, I'm in the middle of North America
#3332 [22:07] <Aleksandr> I heard that they're looking for large predators though.
#3333 [22:07] <Aleksandr> I suppose its a bad night to go out in my white van, eh?
#3334 [22:07] <TheNytangel> Pedobear..
#3335 [22:08] <TheNytangel> :P
#3336 [22:08] <Aleksandr> Not even kidding man, this is the most excitement this town has ever seen.
#3337 [22:08] <TheNytangel> Aleksandr, how many windows does your white van have?
#3338 [22:08] <Aleksandr> 0.
#3339 [22:08] <TheNytangel> PEDOBEAR
#3340 [22:08] <Aleksandr> well, windshield andside windows
#3341 [22:08] <TheNytangel> STRANGER DANGER
#3342 [22:08] <Aleksandr> Lolol Nyt
#3343 [22:08] <Thunder7102> oh and of the 4 dungeons I have come across none of them has melons. :P
#3344 [22:08] <Aleksandr> It's so awesome
#3345 [22:08] <TheNytangel> |Kiikun|Janus|, TheNoodle, SAVE MEH
#3346 [22:08] <Aleksandr> I'm looking out my window at a bunch of army trucks
#3347 [22:08] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ?
#3348 [22:08] <Thunder7102> And ALL 4 of them were zombie ones.
#3349 [22:09] <Aleksandr> I've seen at least 5 helicopters fly over
#3350 [22:09] <TheNytangel> |Kiikun|Janus|, PEDOBEAR ALERT
#3351 [22:09] <TheNytangel> WugBot knows da pedobears..
#3352 [22:09] <|Kiikun|Janus|> and knows when i type /q :P
#3353 [22:09] <TheNoodle> lol
#3354 [22:09] <TheNytangel> HAX
#3355 [22:10] <TheNytangel> Hax Romana..
#3356 [22:11] <TheNytangel> The pedobear has been unleashed once again..
#3357 [22:15] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, happy farmer..
#3358 [22:16] <|Kiikun|Janus|> nyt what are you smoking and can i have some?
#3359 [22:16] <Aleksandr> Wugbot banned me because he's jealous
#3360 [22:16] <TheNytangel> Aleksandr, not banned
#3361 [22:16] <TheNytangel> Quietted
#3362 [22:16] <Aleksandr> Same difference.
#3363 [22:16] <Aleksandr> He's just jealous that I seen a zebra and he didn't.
#3364 [22:17] <|Kiikun|Janus|> i just saw wall of text earlier i took as singing :P
#3365 [22:17] <TheNytangel> Oh no, what we gonna do. The king likes Danial, more than me and you. Oh know, what we gonna do. We gotta get him outta here
#3366 [22:17] <TheNytangel> *bah dum dum dum*
#3367 [22:19] * |Kiikun|Janus| wants slant-slabs.....
#3367 [22:20] <TheNytangel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWFSJqPOhkE
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#3369 [22:21] <Aleksandr> Kiikun
#3370 [22:21] <Aleksandr> http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/10/18/Wild-animals-loose-in-Muskingum-County.html
#3371 [22:25] * mib_ompryj [mib_ompryj@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3372 [22:25] <mib_ompryj> hey
#3373 [22:25] <TheNytangel> WASUUUUUUUUP
#3374 [22:25] <TheNytangel> :(
#3375 [22:25] <mib_ompryj> i have a problem in minecraft
#3376 [22:25] <mib_ompryj> its doesnt work
#3377 [22:25] <TheNytangel> Explain more..
#3378 [22:26] <mib_ompryj> its say like
#3379 [22:26] <mib_ompryj> bad drivers
#3380 [22:26] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle..
#3381 [22:26] * TheNoodle hugs TheNytangel
#3381 [22:26] <mib_ompryj> huh ?
#3382 [22:26] <TheNoodle> Operating system?
#3383 [22:27] <TheNytangel> mib_ompryj, windows?
#3384 [22:28] <TheNytangel> ...
#3385 [22:28] * brandon__ [brandon__@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3386 [22:28] <TheNytangel> Is my connection getting reset or is it silent in here?
#3387 [22:28] <mib_ompryj> is
#3388 [22:28] * RUMPLER [RUMPLER@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3389 [22:28] <mib_ompryj> windows XP
#3390 [22:28] <TheNytangel> ??> mib_ompryj win/dxdiag
#3391 [22:28] <VoxelHead> mib_ompryj: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3392 [22:29] <VoxelHead> mib_ompryj: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3393 [22:29] <mib_ompryj> kk
#3394 [22:30] <RUMPLER> i need teh helps guys
#3395 [22:30] <TheNytangel> We all do..
#3396 [22:31] <RUMPLER> EXCEPTION_STACK_OVERFLOW (0xc00000fd) at pc=0x69e1f047, pid=3328, tid=2276
#3397 [22:31] <RUMPLER> ^my problem
#3398 [22:31] <TheNytangel> RUMPLER, need mo' info
#3399 [22:31] <mib_ompryj> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 19/10/11 09:30 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.7.0
#3400 [22:31] <RUMPLER> should i paste bin the whole error thing?
#3401 [22:31] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> RUMPLER pastebin
#3402 [22:31] <VoxelHead> RUMPLER: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#3403 [22:31] <RUMPLER> gotit
#3404 [22:31] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_602a49: you too
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#3406 [22:32] <|Kiikun|Janus|> mib_602a49: wait. bad video drivers. update them.
#3407 [22:32] <Guest28103> So then if you have a mac you're pretty much screwed over and can't play it?
#3408 [22:33] <RUMPLER> http://pastebin.com/1smtRt2N
#3409 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Only macs with OS 10.5 and older.. and that issue's been addressed in minecraft 1.9
#3410 [22:33] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Guest28103: if your 10.5.8. we can direct you to a 'fixer' mod...
#3411 [22:33] <mib_ompryj> who do i update them ?
#3412 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> mib_ompryj - Give us a dxdiag, we'll tell you how
#3413 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_ompryj win/dxdiag
#3414 [22:33] <Guest28103> ok. when i try to play in browser i get three mesages saying the digital signature cant be verified and then a white screen instead of the mojang symbol.
#3415 [22:33] <VoxelHead> mib_ompryj: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3416 [22:33] <VoxelHead> mib_ompryj: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3417 [22:34] <RUMPLER> run then dxdiag?
#3418 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> RUMPLER - Yes, you too. Dxdiag
#3419 [22:36] <mib_ompryj> what is win+R ?
#3420 [22:36] <Guest28103> im on 10.6
#3421 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Your windows key, plus the R key on your keyboard. the windows key can be found between the ctrl and alt keys
#3422 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Guest28103 - What browser? Have you tried other browsers?
#3423 [22:37] <mib_ompryj> oh ty
#3424 [22:37] * [L] [[L]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3425 [22:37] <Guest28103> yeah, i tried firefox. im using safari.
#3426 [22:37] <RUMPLER> ok its saved to my desktop
#3427 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> RUMPLER - Please copy the contents of it, go to pastebin.com and paste it there, then give us the URL to it
#3428 [22:38] <TheNytangel> Lol
#3429 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Guest28103 - Did you accept those certificates?
#3430 [22:38] <TheNytangel> Sped up videos = funny
#3431 [22:38] <TheNytangel> Especially listening to someone sayin "chicken" a lot of times
#3432 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> The chicken powerpoint video?
#3433 [22:39] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, no, part 5 of my lets play..
#3434 [22:39] <Guest28103> yep. and said always to accept files from this sender or whatever. But i got like 3 in a row. and then a white screen.
#3435 [22:39] <RUMPLER> http://pastebin.com/DZqkzAKj
#3436 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Guest28103 - Try clearing your browser's cache/temp folder?
#3437 [22:40] <mib_ompryj> ok
#3438 [22:40] <mib_ompryj> i already paste it
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#3440 [22:41] <mib_ompryj> then ?
#3441 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_ompryj - Give us the address to it?
#3442 [22:41] * Valk97 [Valk97@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3443 [22:41] <Valk97> hello
#3444 [22:42] <Valk97> anyone?
#3445 [22:42] <mib_ompryj> >thenytangel hey i already paste it
#3446 [22:42] <TheNytangel> Um..
#3447 [22:42] <TheNytangel> No?
#3448 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> RUMPLER - Try uninstalling your nvidia drivers completely, and reinstall using these drivers: http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-tesla-winxp-x32-276.14-whql-driver.html
#3449 [22:43] <mib_ompryj> i already paste it
#3450 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_ompryj - Give us the address to it?
#3451 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Without the address to the site, we can't read it
#3452 [22:43] <Valk97> my friend is trying to get into my server and gets this error: IOException: Server returned HTTP response code
#3453 [22:43] <mib_ompryj> http://pastebin.com/RqtYaUT8
#3454 [22:43] <Valk97> This error: nternal client error: java.io.IOException:server returned HTTP response code 450 for URL: http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Crazyshots&sessionId=916905088960173569&serverId=ac51afo73c02a685
#3455 [22:44] <Valk97> any help?
#3456 [22:45] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, http://pastebin.com/nxDba7kJ <-- good?
#3457 [22:45] <Guest28103> ok. yeah. clearing history didnt work.
#3458 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Good for?
#3459 [22:45] <TheNytangel> Me :D
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#3461 [22:45] <Valk97> please
#3462 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Valk97 - Who's getting that?
#3463 [22:46] <Valk97> my friend who is trying to join my server
#3464 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Have him check his windows parental controls, looks like something's blocking minecraft from connecting on his computer
#3465 [22:46] <mib_ompryj> >thenytangel - hey
#3466 [22:46] <TheNytangel> Why do you always resort to me..
#3467 [22:46] <mib_ompryj> come on
#3468 [22:47] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine was helping you!
#3469 [22:47] <Guest28103> or the cash
#3470 [22:47] <mib_ompryj> ok
#3471 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> mib_ompryj - Try these drivers: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2301&DwnldID=16835&ProductFamily=Internet+Devices&ProductLine=Netbooks&ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel%c2%ae+945GM+Express+Chipset+Family&lang=eng
#3472 [22:48] <Valk97> .
#3473 [22:48] <Valk97> k
#3474 [22:48] <Valk97> i told him to do that
#3475 [22:49] <Valk97> he was able to connect on a large server but not on mine
#3476 [22:49] <Valk97> mine is just the minecraft_server.jar thing
#3477 [22:50] <Valk97> just for 5 people
#3478 [22:50] <Valk97> no plugins
#3479 [22:50] <Valk97> he is opped
#3480 [22:50] <Aleksandr> plugins
#3481 [22:50] <Aleksandr> I read that as penguins
#3482 [22:50] <Valk97> lol
#3483 [22:51] <TheNytangel> Nobody reset my connection
#3484 [22:51] <TheNytangel> This 651.26 MB upload will take me 140 minutes to upload
#3485 [22:51] <TheNytangel> *cough cough*
#3486 [22:51] <mib_ompryj> wow
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#3488 [22:52] <TheNytangel> Oh don't worry, my christmas present is better internet. And I asked for an early christmas present.
#3489 [22:52] <TheNytangel> Trust me.
#3490 [22:53] <mib_ompryj> Lol
#3491 [22:53] <Valk97> .
#3492 [22:53] <Valk97> .
#3493 [22:53] <Valk97> .
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#3495 [22:53] <frogonia> i need help deleting MCpatcher!
#3496 [22:53] <frogonia> it wont go away!
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#3498 [22:53] <Scott> frogonia: What OS?
#3499 [22:54] <TheNytangel> frogonia, neither will people needing help
#3500 [22:54] <Scott> ?? os
#3501 [22:54] <VoxelHead> os: Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
#3502 [22:54] <Valk97> lol angel
#3503 [22:54] <frogonia> ??
#3504 [22:54] <Scott> What is your OS?
#3505 [22:54] <frogonia> win7
#3506 [22:54] <TheNytangel> Scott, we definately need a wiki for people needing help, they click on a link for the problem they are having, and they can fix it :D
#3507 [22:54] <frogonia> i cant delete it
#3508 [22:54] <Valk97> i have mac osx lion
#3509 [22:55] <Scott> ??> frogonia win/reinst
#3510 [22:55] <VoxelHead> frogonia: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3511 [22:55] <VoxelHead> frogonia: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3512 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - That'll be just as effective as people reading the /topic when minecraft is down
#3513 [22:55] <TheNytangel> Valk97, ewww
#3514 [22:55] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, and? :P
#3515 [22:55] <frogonia> iv done that
#3516 [22:55] <Scott> TheNytangel: I use OS X Lion too!
#3517 [22:55] <TheNytangel> Scott, ewww
#3518 [22:55] <frogonia> it wont let me delet it!!
#3519 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Too much work, for no gain
#3520 [22:55] <Valk97> No! Not ewww angel!
#3521 [22:55] <Scott> frogonia: There is no reason it should be there if you do that.
#3522 [22:55] <mib_ompryj> >greyvulpine- didnt work :(
#3523 [22:55] <Valk97> YAY SCOTT
#3524 [22:55] <Scott> Unless you've replaced the launcher.
#3525 [22:56] <Scott> In which case, just delete the launcher and download a new one.
#3526 [22:56] <TheNytangel> I officially declare this the OS wars..
#3527 [22:56] <Valk97> i <3 lion
#3528 [22:56] <frogonia> iv deleted hole file wont let me
#3529 [22:56] <frogonia> forced update wont let me
#3530 [22:56] <Valk97> how do we…. fight?
#3531 [22:56] <Valk97> i think
#3532 [22:56] <mib_ompryj> >GreyVulpine didnt work
#3533 [22:56] <Valk97> LION LION LION LION
#3534 [22:56] <frogonia> how do i get rid o it???!!!
#3535 [22:56] <TheNytangel> Valk97, not by spam..
#3536 [22:56] <Valk97> lol
#3537 [22:56] <Valk97> kk
#3538 [22:57] <mib_ompryj> >greyvulpine
#3539 [22:57] <frogonia> please help
#3540 [22:57] <mib_ompryj> >greyvulpine
#3541 [22:57] <frogonia> i get rid of it:()
#3542 [22:57] <Scott> What is the best software to draw a diagram?
#3543 [22:57] <TheNytangel> Scott, paint
#3544 [22:57] <Scott> SAS works
#3545 [22:57] <TheNytangel> OH WAIT
#3546 [22:57] <Scott> SAAS*
#3547 [22:57] <TheNytangel> That's windows
#3548 [22:57] <Scott> TheNytangel: I have paintbrush.
#3549 [22:57] <TheNytangel> Scott, I have pencil
#3550 [22:57] <Scott> But i'd prefer something easier to use.
#3551 [22:58] <frogonia> can anyone help it keeps saying its being used even though everythings closed:(
#3552 [22:58] <Scott> I'll use google docs
#3553 [22:58] <TheNytangel> I know this!
#3554 [22:58] <TheNytangel> Ctrl + shift + esx
#3555 [22:58] <TheNytangel> Esc*
#3556 [22:58] <frogonia> ?
#3557 [22:58] <TheNytangel> Processes
#3558 [22:58] <TheNytangel> And then find it and stop it
#3559 [23:00] <mib_ompryj> hey
#3560 [23:00] <mib_ompryj> >thenytangel can you help me ?
#3561 [23:00] * TheNytangel disappears
#3561 [23:00] <TheNytangel> All up to you, TheNoodle
#3562 [23:00] <mib_ompryj> ok
#3563 [23:01] <TheNoodle> Watching funday monday.
#3564 [23:01] <TheNoodle> :p
#3565 [23:01] <TheNytangel> It's tuesday
#3566 [23:01] <mib_ompryj> hey >thenoodle
#3567 [23:01] <frogonia> i cant find it
#3568 [23:01] <mib_ompryj> can you help me ?
#3569 [23:01] <TheNoodle> Yes, but you play on monday, then send in reviews for tuesday.
#3570 [23:01] <TheNoodle> Jeez, watch more day[9] :P
#3571 [23:02] <mib_ompryj> its says bad video card drivers
#3572 [23:03] <TheNytangel> Hibernation mode, activate!
#3573 [23:03] <mib_ompryj> dude -.- help mee
#3574 [23:03] * Wug is getting a domain
#3574 [23:04] <Wug> so we can update all the links again :P
#3575 [23:05] <mib_ompryj> somebody can help me ?
#3576 [23:05] <almostroot> Samsung event is over, so what's up?
#3577 [23:06] <almostroot> Wug: I have like four?
#3578 [23:06] <almostroot> Wug: That are for personal use at least.
#3579 [23:06] <TheNoodle> I have schoolb.us :D
#3580 [23:06] <mib_ompryj> duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
#3581 [23:06] <almostroot> mib_ompryj: Go download drivers for your video card from the card maker's website. Don't spam the channel.
#3582 [23:07] <mib_ompryj> thanks
#3583 [23:07] * Wug now has wug.me
#3583 [23:07] <almostroot> But I don't want to wug you.
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#3586 [23:22] <quibbit> Hey, I am running a macbook that i got in 2008, my minecraft worked fine for a while then after an update i can not go to my selected world. I can click on the world but then after i select it and it loads, all i see is a black screen. help
#3587 [23:23] <lemon-rev> quibbit try make sure your java updated java.com
#3588 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Short answer, your mac sucks. Wait for 1.9, this'll be fixed
#3589 [23:23] <quibbit> i just read that and yeah probably best bet
#3590 [23:23] <lemon-rev> lol
#3591 [23:26] * viking667 [viking667@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3592 [23:27] <viking667> huh? Has Dennis Ritchie died???
#3593 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#3594 [23:27] <viking667> Wow. He's like, one of the grandfathers of C or UNIX, I can't remember which.
#3595 [23:27] <viking667> Ah, it's C
#3596 [23:29] <Wug> both actually
#3597 [23:29] <viking667> hm, seems like it was both...
#3598 [23:29] <viking667> bah, you beat me to it
#3599 [23:29] <Wug> its because of him that steve jobs could turn unix into apple
#3600 [23:29] <viking667> mmmmmm.
#3601 [23:29] <Wug> people freaked out about steve jobs
#3602 [23:29] <viking667> brb
#3603 [23:30] <Wug> Dennis Ritchie is more worthy of it
#3604 [23:30] <TheNoodle> ^
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#3606 [23:38] <viking667> I remember a recent joke along those lines (take this with a grain of salt)...
#3607 [23:39] <viking667> Ten years ago, we had Steve Jobs, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope. Now we've got no jobs, no cash and no hope...
#3608 [23:41] <Iridium> lol
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#3611 [23:47] <viking667> Actually, what I came in here for was to ask about a screen refresh problem. Every time minecraft quits, it resets my 1024x768 screen back to 60 hz refresh rate, even though I didn't have that initially selected. Can I address this issue in any way?
#3612 [23:47] <madalynn> NOPE
#3613 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Interesting..
#3614 [23:47] <viking667> (This happens on Linux, by the way)
#3615 [23:47] <madalynn> eww
#3616 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> Haven't heard of that happening
#3617 [23:47] <madalynn> i dont know how to put minecraft on linux "(
#3618 [23:47] <viking667> I haven't seen it happen on Vista
#3619 [23:48] <viking667> madalynn: I found it really easy.
#3620 [23:48] <madalynn> well ive NEVER used or seen linux before and my friend told me to put minecraft on his linux netbook today
#3621 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Ew, netbook
#3622 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Good luck with that
#3623 [23:49] <viking667> madalynn: simply go to minecraft.net/download.jsp and select the minecraft.jar file, download it to your computer. Make sure your Linux has the latest version of java 6 (1.6_27) and not java 7.
#3624 [23:49] <madalynn> ew linux
#3625 [23:49] <madalynn> do i click the jarfile?
#3626 [23:49] <viking667> linux isn't that bad, if you're used to it like I am.
#3627 [23:49] <viking667> You can save the jarfile to disk, then run it manually
#3628 [23:50] <madalynn> just run it with java
#3629 [23:50] <viking667> i.e. there's instructions on that same page for how to run it
#3630 [23:50] <viking667> yup.
#3631 [23:50] <madalynn> ok
#3632 [23:50] <madalynn> the other problem is that he is a happy christain family and he isnt allowed to change setting on the netbook without his parents password LOL
#3633 [23:50] <viking667> Actually, that's not a bad thing.
#3634 [23:51] <madalynn> he cant even connect to the school internet becuz of that
#3635 [23:51] <viking667> ... and I'm not going to get into the whys and wherefores of that... it's whats in operation.
#3636 [23:51] <viking667> so, can he take it to school with him though?
#3637 [23:51] <madalynn> yep
#3638 [23:52] <viking667> ... just not connect to the internet, huh?
#3639 [23:52] <madalynn> yea lol, ill try to put mc on it tmrw
#3640 [23:52] <madalynn> byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
#3641 [23:52] <viking667> and do get his old's okay.
#3642 [23:52] <viking667> heh.
#3643 [23:53] <viking667> on a netbook, she may not have much luck...
#3644 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Bet money that it won't run, or ever get above 5 FPS
#3645 [23:54] <viking667> I wouldn't take that bet, odds are certain you're right.
#3646 [23:54] <viking667> It's pretty painful watching it in SMP on my wife's machine...
#3647 [23:54] <viking667> but funnily enough, it's actually okay in SSP
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#3649 [23:55] <bds1110> Hello?
#3650 [23:55] <viking667> I'm vaguely wondering if the issue's related to the video driver, or just the shyte specs (1Gb memory, 2.4GHz CPU)
#3651 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what video card/chipset she has
#3652 [23:56] <viking667> ATI Radeon 9550
#3653 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> If it's a discrete vid card... yeah, i'm blaming the RAM
#3654 [23:56] <viking667> so it's one of the older ones... it has 128Mb memory
#3655 [23:56] <bds1110> I have one quick question that is probably common: "Can't connect to minecraft.net", for the past couple of days.
#3656 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft itself tries to reserve up to a gig of RAM for itself
#3657 [23:57] <viking667> it's common, but I haven't had it.
#3658 [23:57] <bds1110> Any idea how to fix it?
#3659 [23:57] <viking667> GreyVulpine: I tried to tighten that down somewhat -Xmx512M
#3660 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> bds1110 - Are you able to connect to https://login.minecraft.net
#3661 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> Should say Bad Login if you can
#3662 [23:57] <viking667> bds1110: if that's the case, then I don't know what else could be wrong.
#3663 [23:57] * NikostratosX [NikostratosX@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3664 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> viking667 - That's a good idea
#3665 [23:57] <NikostratosX> hi!
#3666 [23:58] <bds1110> "Bad login", yes.
#3667 [23:58] <viking667> yup. I'll tweak that starting script now then.
#3668 [23:58] <NikostratosX> Can anyone help me out with something?
#3669 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> bds1110 - Tried redownloading the launcher?
#3670 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> NikostratosX - Only if you tell us what with.
#3671 [23:58] <bds1110> M'kay.
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#3673 [23:59] <NikostratosX> I'm trying to apply a texture pack, but it's making my textures for wireless redstone and firestone mod disappear
#3674 [23:59] <bds1110> I'll give it a shot and let you guys know what happens
#3675 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to look at what textures those mods reference, and modify it accordingly
#3676 [23:59] <onilink0> okay, having a bit of an issue with the minecraft 1.9 pre release
#3677 [23:59] * GreyVulpine points at /topic
#3677 [23:59] <NikostratosX> huh?
#3678 [23:59] <viking667> onilink0: which one? Sheesh... and yes, we don't support that here.