#1 [00:00] <viking667> ... just the 1.8.1 release
#2 [00:00] <bds1110> How would one redownload the launcher, exactly?
#3 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> NikostratosX - As there are hundreds of mods out there, I couldn't begin to know how to help you. You'll need to look at the mods for your wireless redstone and firestone mod, and see how they reference their textures
#4 [00:01] <NikostratosX> i dont get what you mean by "how they reference their textures"
#5 [00:02] <onilink0> sorry, i didn't see the topic, never been on here before either, was just hoping I could get it working, keeps saying missing or corrupt jar
#6 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> From where they get their textures from. Do they have their own textures?
#7 [00:02] <Iridium> is there a tool that'll map underground?
#8 [00:02] <viking667> onilink0: check in your ... hang on. Which OS are you on?
#9 [00:02] <NikostratosX> As I recall, they have their own textures.
#10 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> onilink0 - Quite simply, we don't support buggy pre-releases here. They're pre-releases for a reason.
#11 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> NikostratosX - Then you'll need to figure out how they link to those custom textures.
#12 [00:03] <viking667> rats. I was addressing the wrong user. And I'll be right back
#13 [00:03] <onilink0> Right, I know, and it's windows 7
#14 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> onilink0 - Do you know how to install the pre-release?
#15 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> You're not running them directly, right?
#16 [00:03] <NikostratosX> can i send you my .jar file and have you figure it out for me maybe?
#17 [00:03] <viking667> because you won't get any joy if you try.
#18 [00:04] <onilink0> no, putting it in the bin folder like i'm supposed to
#19 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> NikostratosX - I don't touch mods
#20 [00:04] <bds1110> Can someone give me a link to redownload the Minecraft Launcher
#21 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> bds1110 - minecraft.net/download
#22 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> onilink0 - Then that should be all you need to do, what is the exact error you're getting?
#23 [00:04] <bds1110> Thanks
#24 [00:04] <NikostratosX> is there anyone here that can load up my .jar file on their mc and see why some textures wont show?
#25 [00:04] <viking667> onilink0: and which pre-release version?
#26 [00:04] <viking667> there's now 4 of 1.9
#27 [00:05] <bds1110> I have not played this game in a very long time. (I don't recall there being bushy grass...)
#28 [00:05] <viking667> NikostratosX: uh, no. That way lies madness and exploitation.
#29 [00:05] <viking667> bds1110: hm. WHat version were you last playing?
#30 [00:06] <onilink0> version 4 and ERROR: Minecraft.jar is missing or corrupted. Unable to start the game
#31 [00:06] <NikostratosX> then ugh. i dont know the technical jargon to this >.< i just wanna have my textures look right, while applying a texturepack
#32 [00:06] <bds1110> I don't know the number, but I imagine it will take a while for it to re-download.
#33 [00:06] <viking667> onilink0: hm. What's its exact size (in bytes) on disk?
#34 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> wait.. where did you download the pre-4 release from?
#35 [00:07] <onilink0> well, see I'm trying to get it working for my friend, works fine for me, I don't understand what's wrong with it
#36 [00:07] <viking667> hm.
#37 [00:08] <bds1110> Whoa. This launcher is fancy. A news update thing? Last launcher I had was just a dirt background with spots for UN and PW.
#38 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> bds1110 - That would be why you're getting a can't connect to minecraft.net
#39 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> That old launcher hasn't been used since alpha
#40 [00:08] <viking667> bds1110: gee. You have been away for a while.
#41 [00:08] <bds1110> Okay, I think it is fixed now.
#42 [00:08] <bds1110> Yes, I have been away for a very long time. It's good to be back, though
#43 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> Welcome back to the fold.
#44 [00:08] <viking667> You're a paid member?
#45 [00:09] <bds1110> Yes.
#46 [00:09] <viking667> !paid bds1110
#47 [00:09] <viking667> woo hoo. good one.
#48 [00:09] <onilink0> So no ideas as to why it's screwy?
#49 [00:09] <viking667> Figgers. I pay for zoombuggy's copy, and her machine can't run SMP... sigh.
#50 [00:09] <bds1110> I hear there's an official version soon, or something?
#51 [00:09] <viking667> really really soon.
#52 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> bds1110 - Nov 19
#53 [00:10] <bds1110> Will I need to bu the game again?
#54 [00:10] <bds1110> *buy
#55 [00:10] <onilink0> nope
#56 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#57 [00:10] <viking667> nope.
#58 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> ?? premium
#59 [00:10] <VoxelHead> premium: Both Alpha and Beta premium users will get bug fixes, updates, patches, and the final release of the game for free. This has not changed. The only difference between the two is the potential aspect of future expansions beyond final release. Alpha users were promised these future expansions for free, while people that bought it during Beta were not.
#60 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> ^
#61 [00:10] <viking667> ohhhhh..
#62 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> onilink0 - Could you try a completely fresh install of minecraft
#63 [00:10] <onilink0> already did
#64 [00:10] <viking667> onilink0: on his machine?
#65 [00:10] <bds1110> "I was worried for a moment."
#66 [00:10] <onilink0> yeah
#67 [00:10] <viking667> i.e. with fresh copy of the launcher?
#68 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Delete .minecraft (saving saves), delete the launcher. Redownload the launcher, log in, have it download the fresh files
#69 [00:11] <viking667> yup. ^^
#70 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> Download the 1.9 pre-4 from
#71 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> ?? 1.9
#72 [00:11] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre4/minecraft_server.jar
#73 [00:11] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre4/minecraft_server.jar
#74 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> Er.. crap
#75 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> remove _server from one of those links
#76 [00:11] <viking667> replace server with client
#77 [00:11] <viking667> oh, sorry. Yeah - remove _server
#78 [00:11] * GreyVulpine quickly fixes that..
#78 [00:11] <bds1110> My birthday is early November, and I think I should get a new laptop with the juice to actually run it.
#79 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> ?? 1.9
#80 [00:12] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre4/minecraft.jar
#81 [00:12] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre4/minecraft_server.jar
#82 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, that looks better
#83 [00:13] <bds1110> Er, what's the green bar near the health?
#84 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> experience
#85 [00:13] <bds1110> Whoa
#86 [00:13] <bds1110> Minecraft has XP
#87 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> does nothing right now, expected to be used for potions and enchantment
#88 [00:14] <bds1110> In the official version?
#89 [00:14] <onilink0> well damn, that's what my friend did, deleted .minecraft, fresh reinstall, 1.8 works fine, 1.9 gives the error
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#91 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> That is extremely strange onilink0, don't think I've come across that error around here before..
#92 [00:14] <viking667> onilink0: what size is his jar file (in bytes) on disk?
#93 [00:15] <bds1110> Okay, thanks guys. I think I'll play some Minecraft now. Thanks for the help!
#94 [00:15] <bds1110> See ya
#95 [00:15] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#95 [00:15] <viking667> and, more importantly, can it be unzipped? (yes, it's a zip file)
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#97 [00:16] <viking667> Anyhow, sorry. I have two younger nephews that are playing the classic version. Is there any way for me to set up a server they can connect to so their world gets saved?
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#100 [00:16] <FinnTheHuman2011> Can you move your premium status to another account?
#101 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> For classic? Yes. Server software's available using the Multiplayer link under the classic heading on the website
#102 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> FinnTheHuman2011 - No
#103 [00:17] <viking667> FinnTheHuman2011: I don't think so
#104 [00:17] <FinnTheHuman2011> Why?
#105 [00:17] <onilink0> 50 short of 2000 kb
#106 [00:17] <viking667> I asked in BYTES... not in K
#107 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> FinnTheHuman2011 - Why would there be?
#108 [00:18] <FinnTheHuman2011> Like if you don't like your current minecraft username and want to switch to another account but you don't want to spend the price of the beta or the official release.
#109 [00:18] <NikostratosX> ok seriously i cant figure out how to fix it grey
#110 [00:18] <viking667> onilink0: oh, and I just realised that's a bad size for pre4
#111 [00:18] <FinnTheHuman2011> Or this.
#112 [00:18] <FinnTheHuman2011> Can you change your username by asking?
#113 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> FinnTheHuman2011 - There are no refunds, and no way to change your username.
#114 [00:19] <viking667> onilink0: it should be 2,147,107 bytes
#115 [00:19] <FinnTheHuman2011> I know no refunds.
#116 [00:19] <FinnTheHuman2011> But i'm saying.
#117 [00:19] * viking667 is really glad he chose a usable username...
#117 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> FinnTheHuman2011 - There is currently no way to transfer premium status
#118 [00:20] <onilink0> okay, scratch that, that was 1.8
#119 [00:20] <NikostratosX> Grey, what is it I am looking for that could be causing this issue?
#120 [00:20] <FinnTheHuman2011> Maybe later if notch adds it?
#121 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> FinnTheHuman2011 - See minecraft.net/support --> username
#122 [00:20] <FinnTheHuman2011> erm
#123 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> er, account -> username
#124 [00:21] <FinnTheHuman2011> Yes!
#125 [00:21] <FinnTheHuman2011> :D
#126 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> NikostratosX - Sorry, gotta read back on your problem, sec
#127 [00:21] <FinnTheHuman2011> I think they'll add that feature then Minecraft is finally out.
#128 [00:21] <FinnTheHuman2011> Well, after.
#129 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Ah, mods, yeah..
#130 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> ?? mods
#131 [00:21] <FinnTheHuman2011> Maybe mefore?
#132 [00:21] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#133 [00:21] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#134 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Really the best I can do around here.
#135 [00:22] <FinnTheHuman2011> before?*
#136 [00:22] <Iridium> wewt! i jus broke a personal record :D
#137 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> FinnTheHuman2011 - We don't know
#138 [00:22] <FinnTheHuman2011> :l
#139 [00:22] <Iridium> 5.8 MB/s
#140 [00:22] <Wug> GreyVulpine: wug.me
#141 [00:22] * GreyVulpine wugs Wug
#141 [00:22] * Wug wug's
#141 [00:22] <onilink0> okay, problem identified, just need to fix it, the file is the correct size, but for some reason shrinks when put into the bin folder
#142 [00:23] <viking667> don't need the ' in wugs
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#144 [00:23] <Iridium> ^
#145 [00:23] <FinnTheHuman2011> One more thing.
#146 [00:23] <Wug> it was a typo, was supposed to be "wug'd"
#147 [00:23] <viking667> ahhh.
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#149 [00:23] <NikostratosX> My problem isn't exactly mods..it's texture packs interferign with mods
#150 [00:23] <FinnTheHuman2011> Do we have to wait 24 hours if we can't log in?
#151 [00:23] <viking667> onilink0: hm? what are you using to find out what size the file is?
#152 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> FinnTheHuman2011 - Depends on what error you're getting
#153 [00:23] <NikostratosX> My texture pack is overwriting a mod texture.
#154 [00:23] <Iridium> we still can't help wiht that niko
#155 [00:24] <FinnTheHuman2011> Too many failed logins, apparently.
#156 [00:24] <NikostratosX> Well what irc can/
#157 [00:24] <FinnTheHuman2011> :l
#158 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> NikostratosX - Yeah, I don't really know how your mods are referring to those custom textures to really help you
#159 [00:24] <FinnTheHuman2011> I wish that got fixed.
#160 [00:24] <FinnTheHuman2011> Heres a tip.
#161 [00:24] <FinnTheHuman2011> Don't install it into the minecraft.jar, move it into the texturepacks.
#162 [00:24] <FinnTheHuman2011> If your doing that, then I don't know whats happening.
#163 [00:24] <onilink0> well, friend got the file from me, it's the correct 2,135 kb, but when it gets run it shrinks to 2000 or less, cannot explain it
#164 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Modding, by personal choice, I really couldn't spend the months to support somebody else's work
#165 [00:25] <NikostratosX> i kept it in texture packs :/
#166 [00:25] <viking667> uh, you're not supposed to run it.
#167 [00:25] <FinnTheHuman2011> I have this error.
#168 [00:25] <viking667> onilink0: You're suposed to run the launcher instead
#169 [00:25] <FinnTheHuman2011> Too Many Failed Logins.
#170 [00:25] <onilink0> I know that, I'm not running the jar, we aren't idiots
#171 [00:25] <FinnTheHuman2011> And i'm still getting that since like 8 hours.
#172 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> FinnTheHuman2011 - Yeah, it's a common issue right now. All you can do is either wait, or use the in-browser client
#173 [00:25] <viking667> onilink0: and have the minecraft.jar (pre4) in .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#174 [00:26] <onilink0> it is
#175 [00:26] <NikostratosX> Well thanks for your help to those who helped..ill go google a mc mod irc
#176 [00:26] <FinnTheHuman2011> But the in-browser doesn't support any mods, even 1 tiny edit.
#177 [00:26] <viking667> onilink): hmm. Can we take this private for a while? I'd like to go over that with a fine tooth comb.
#178 [00:26] <FinnTheHuman2011> When I run the patcher, the jar can load it but the in-browser can't.
#179 [00:26] <onilink0> sure, dunno how though
#180 [00:26] <FinnTheHuman2011> HD Patcher.
#181 [00:27] <FinnTheHuman2011> Is there any reason why that's happening?
#182 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> FinnTheHuman2011 - Mojang's web admin has been working on the backend for a few days anow
#183 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> now*
#184 [00:27] <FinnTheHuman2011> Some people got affected by the too many failed logins but I got effected.
#185 [00:27] <FinnTheHuman2011> My friends didn't.
#186 [00:27] <FinnTheHuman2011> :l
#187 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> I blame him
#188 [00:29] <FinnTheHuman2011> I hope this bug doesn't happen again.
#189 [00:30] <FinnTheHuman2011> Can't wait to play tomorrow.
#190 [00:34] <viking667> sorry, I never got a clear reply on the setting up of a classic server on someone's machine
#191 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> For classic? Yes. Server software's available using the Multiplayer link under the classic heading on the website
#192 [00:35] <viking667> ... so my two nephews can play in a world and not lose their saves
#193 [00:35] <Wug> GreyVulpine: has waiting a day been working on the too many failed login issue
#194 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Wug - Nothing we can do about it
#195 [00:35] <viking667> so. I can install that on the beefiest machine, get their clients to point to it in multiplayer mode?
#196 [00:35] <Wug> viking667: you just download and run the software on the site
#197 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> viking667 - By client, you mean connect to it via: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/list
#198 [00:35] <viking667> Right. Thanks.
#199 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#200 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> The beta client cannot connect to classic servers
#201 [00:36] <Wug> you have to port forward if you're behind a router and want to access it from other computers
#202 [00:36] <viking667> oh. I was trying to make it private to their network.
#203 [00:36] <Wug> and you may have to add firewall exceptions if you have a firewall on the machine
#204 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> You can..
#205 [00:36] <viking667> i.e. not make it available to anyone BUT their computers
#206 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> Just list it once, get the URL, then turn public mode to false in server.properties
#207 [00:36] <viking667> 'cos there's three of them playing...
#208 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> That's fine
#209 [00:36] <viking667> darn. So it has to go on the "list", hm?
#210 [00:36] <Wug> you'll still have to set up port forwarding
#211 [00:37] <Wug> viking667: it will go on the list once and never again
#212 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> No, you only need to get on the list so that you can pull the URL of your server. You can delist it afterwards
#213 [00:37] <viking667> wug: there's multiple machines all on a local network. I want to set up mcserver and point the other clients...
#214 [00:37] <viking667> the url, hm?
#215 [00:37] <Wug> the url from the server list
#216 [00:37] <viking667> that's that 65.22.99.45:25565 thing,?
#217 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Yes, classic servers connect via a URL
#218 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> No
#219 [00:37] <viking667> oh, rats.
#220 [00:38] <Wug> there isnt really a way to connect directly to servers with classic
#221 [00:38] * viking667 blinks. oh.
#221 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> If you look at: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/list
#222 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> You'll see server URLs are like: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play/621675e60265f3ff6ed64fbaa93f24c0
#223 [00:38] <viking667> oh far OUT!!
#224 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> Those unique URLs are classic only
#225 [00:38] <Wug> ;save
#226 [00:39] <Wug> ;quit BRB - updating factoid database with new hostname
#227 [00:39] <viking667> So, every connection ends up going through the minecraft.net database to connect to a LOCAL classic server?
#228 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> Right
#229 [00:39] <viking667> sigh. Then that's not likely to fly.
#230 [00:39] * viking667 shrugs.
#230 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> No real way around it. That's how the classic architecture was programmed
#231 [00:40] <viking667> ... and as their parents aren't likely to spring for the beta, let alone for the release...
#232 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Even custom classic server software work the same way. Needs to be able to send an online heartbeat to the mc server
#233 [00:41] <viking667> one nephew's six, the other one's ten, and his friend (his mum and dad are now living together) is ten
#234 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Bleh. Early christmas present?
#235 [00:41] <viking667> I can't do that. I don't have that much cash mysefl.
#236 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunate..
#237 [00:41] <viking667> that's THREE rounds of E14.95
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#239 [00:41] * GreyVulpine nods
#239 [00:42] <viking667> ... and given one of them isn't my nephew anyohw...
#240 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> Will only go up to 20 euros in about a month..
#241 [00:42] <viking667> we live in NZ. makes it 0.57 euro per dollar..
#242 [00:42] <Wug> ;join #minecrafthelp.breakroom,#minecraft,#minecraftforums,#risucraft,#omegle#,##aubot,#minestatus,#mchelp
#243 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> Offt
#244 [00:42] <Wug> and then wugbot died
#245 [00:42] <viking667> They don't buy games usually. only the one account has ever been bought for Club Penguin for one of them...
#246 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Yikes, that exchange rate kinda sucks.
#247 [00:43] <viking667> It's what it is. I don't bother with sucks/great.
#248 [00:45] <viking667> I've got to get it to fly past my wife first... as it is, she's going to buy a physical present for one nephew this year, the other one already has one bought...
#249 [00:45] <Iridium> how do i spawn cocoa beans?
#250 [00:45] <Iridium> i just died and lost 1 and i want to spawn it back
#251 [00:45] <viking667> I don't think you can.
#252 [00:46] <Iridium> dammit
#253 [00:46] <Iridium> oh i can spawn cookies
#254 [00:46] <Iridium> i'll spawn 8, i can still claim that's legit right?
#255 [00:46] <viking667> "spawn"?
#256 [00:46] <Iridium> since i did just die with a cocoa
#257 [00:47] <Iridium> point taken
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#260 [00:49] <viking667> what do you mean by "spawn" cookies?
#261 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> /give most likely
#262 [00:52] <Iridium> well /i but yeah
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#264 [00:52] <Iridium> sorry i thought you were making a point rather than asking a question
#265 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> If you're running a modded server, you can probably use damage values to give yourself cocoa beans
#266 [00:53] <Iridium> ah it's ok i just got the cookies instead
#267 [00:53] <AndrewsPanda> Anyone know how to disable exp orbs on servers?
#268 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> AndrewsPanda - Would need a mod for that
#269 [00:53] <AndrewsPanda> any recommended plugins
#270 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> Ask in #bukkit, they'll probably have a better clue
#271 [00:54] <AndrewsPanda> kk
#272 [00:54] <Iridium> enable-rcon=false
#273 [00:54] <Wug> GreyVulpine: try again?
#274 [00:54] <Iridium> what's that?
#275 [00:54] <Iridium> and how high can i set the view distance?
#276 [00:54] <Wug> might have to clear dns cache
#277 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> remote console..
#278 [00:54] <Iridium> oh okay i'll leave that off then
#279 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> Wug - Bleh, still getting it, might need a sec for the DNS
#280 [00:56] <Wug> it seems to be working for me through proxify now
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#283 [01:01] <CidianToby> hey quick question. is there an offical mojang support cause i keep getting 'too many failed login atempts'... i have only tried once today
#284 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Nothing you can do there but either wait, or use the in-browser client
#285 [01:02] <Wug> 29.21.137.155
#286 [01:02] <Wug> ... why is that on clipboard
#287 [01:02] <Wug> ^ω^
#288 [01:02] <Wug> thats what I meant to say
#289 [01:02] <CidianToby> well great.. there goes fixing my server cause i guess some kid didnt like that i didnt give him opp powers right off the bat...
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#292 [01:07] <viking667> Sheesh.
#293 [01:07] <viking667> I'm on Cubic Worlds, and I don't think I've EVER asked for ops
#294 [01:09] <CidianToby> i put my server up on a server list site and 5 out of 20 asked for op.. first words too. that and 'i can help you with plugins'... no you cant...
#295 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Once you give them ops, next thing they do is place a bazillion tnt, and crash your server
#296 [01:10] <Wug> time between joining and asking for ops is inversely proportional to noobishness
#297 [01:11] <Wug> I think I'll add a /opban command on my server, which ops you, then immediately bans you
#298 [01:11] <CidianToby> yea... i have built everything by hand plus paid for everythign that was server related.. not gonna happen..
#299 [01:11] <mau5ie> Asking for Ops inherently designates you as either a noob or a troll-magnet.
#300 [01:11] <Wug> unless you're ,e
#301 [01:11] <viking667> heh.
#302 [01:11] <Wug> me* >.>
#303 [01:12] <Wug> in which case you should totally give ops to them
#304 [01:12] * GreyVulpine adds Wug to the Do-Not-Op list.
#304 [01:12] <viking667> I expect to sit on "Member" for quite a while... and frankly I don't really want the headaches that some higher-ups have.
#305 [01:12] <mau5ie> No. Wug. You're both a noob and troll-magnet. :)
#306 [01:12] <Wug> huh
#307 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> But we love you anyways
#308 [01:12] * Wug checks ban list
#308 [01:12] <mau5ie> ya
#309 [01:12] <mau5ie> :3
#310 [01:13] <viking667> what the heck is this mcbans thing? a global list of bans?
#311 [01:13] <CidianToby> i let you sig on guest first. cant build anything expept in freebuild world. than you get cadet first than member
#312 [01:13] <Wug> when'd that get there
#313 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> viking667 - Community-made global ban list
#314 [01:13] <Wug> viking667: sort of yeah
#315 [01:13] <viking667> ahhh, right.
#316 [01:14] <Wug> I've been globally banned before
#317 [01:14] <mau5ie> Yup. Based on reputation, you can ban users of a certain degree in bans (according to MCBans) from your server. For example, anyone of a..5 or above. Or whatever. :)
#318 [01:14] <CidianToby> and thats why you created a server huh
#319 [01:14] <viking667> Cubic run it like this: Guest, member, VIP, and a couple of levels above that. Guests can't build, can't open doors, standing on pressure plates doesn't do anything...
#320 [01:14] <Wug> because I logged onto someone's account while using teamviewer and forgot to log out
#321 [01:14] <viking667> members and greater get to build
#322 [01:14] <viking667> wug: ugh.
#323 [01:15] * GreyVulpine thwaps wug
#323 [01:15] <Wug> if I ever teamviewer them again
#324 [01:15] <Wug> I'm uninstalling all of their drivers and kickbanning them
#325 [01:15] <Wug> I got the ip from mcbans
#326 [01:16] <CidianToby> for me its guest->cadet->member->explorer or builder-> admin... and im still gonna add more ranks
#327 [01:16] <Wug> you should promote me to super admin, master of all things by virtue of the fact that I'm wug
#328 [01:16] <Wug> :D
#329 [01:16] <Wug> /noob
#330 [01:17] <CidianToby> ill promote you to my 'Dunce' Rank
#331 [01:17] <Wug> sold! :D
#332 [01:17] <Wug> now, guess my minecraft account name. <trollfaic>
#333 [01:17] <viking667> hm... Guv?
#334 [01:17] <CidianToby> Wugeriffic?
#335 [01:18] <Wug> noop
#336 [01:18] <viking667> slapmysillyheadupdaside?
#337 [01:18] <mau5ie> xxxWugxxx (Please, God, no.)
#338 [01:18] <Wug> mau5ie: how'd you guess D:
#339 [01:19] <viking667> mmmmff...
#340 [01:19] <CidianToby> he nows you
#341 [01:19] <viking667> Right. So it's not worth trying to set up a classic server, then...
#342 [01:19] <CidianToby> no betas are more fun...
#343 [01:19] <viking667> they may well be... but were you here when I discussed why?
#344 [01:20] <CidianToby> if you have a beta i can show yoiu what i think is an epic server... but thats my narcisiam speaking...
#345 [01:20] <CidianToby> nope sorry
#346 [01:20] <mau5ie> "if you have a beta"... XD
#347 [01:21] <mau5ie> Wait. Who here doesn't have beta Minecraft?
#348 [01:21] <Wug> viking667: like we said, set it up as public, get the address to the connect page, then turn it to private
#349 [01:21] <viking667> my two nephews.
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#351 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> Probably wants a pure LAN server?
#352 [01:22] <viking667> the issue isn't the address, it's the having it on the minecraft.net list.
#353 [01:22] <viking667> yup.
#354 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> You only need to have it on the minecraft.net list to get the URL to the server. You can delist it afterwards
#355 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't need to stay on the list
#356 [01:22] <CidianToby> yea you get those... 'i wanna be op to mess everything up' ppl
#357 [01:23] <viking667> but it needs to be on the internal minecraft database for the clients to connect to it, even if it's not exposed to the list
#358 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> Right. If it's not on the list, people won't know how to connect to it
#359 [01:24] <CidianToby> wrong... i never updated it to the public list.. i jsut gave them my address and they connected to it
#360 [01:24] <viking667> Won't stop them trying random numbers though... granted they won't be able to, but hey.
#361 [01:24] <GreyVulpine> CidianToby - For classic?
#362 [01:25] <CidianToby> nope for beta
#363 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> We're talking about classic here
#364 [01:25] <viking667> cidian: we're talking classic here.
#365 [01:25] <CidianToby> dammit.. sry
#366 [01:25] <CidianToby> ill shut up now
#367 [01:25] <viking667> oy. stop taking words outta my mouth
#368 [01:25] <viking667> muggg....
#369 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> viking667 - I've given you an example of what a classic server URL is like
#370 [01:25] <viking667> yup, I know.
#371 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play/1bb27262c1fd81b37c35280749bacbd2
#372 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Nobody's going to be guessing that
#373 [01:26] <viking667> their network will be entirely dhcp, so the IP usually won't remain the same
#374 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't matter
#375 [01:26] <viking667> ...which makes it pretty difficult to connect BACK to
#376 [01:26] <GreyVulpine> Server URL is unique to the computer running the server
#377 [01:27] <viking667> and uses a hostname forward? Or an IP forward?
#378 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Even if the internal IP changes, the URL will stay the sound
#379 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> same*
#380 [01:27] <GreyVulpine> Oi, don't ask me, I haven't set up a classic server since last year... but I know it stays the same.
#381 [01:28] <CidianToby> viking... are they connecting from outside your own network?
#382 [01:28] <CidianToby> or from insid it
#383 [01:28] <viking667> it's not my network. It's theirs.
#384 [01:29] <viking667> i.e. I'd set the server up on one of their machines, the other two/three computers would connect their classic clients to it.
#385 [01:29] <CidianToby> are they the ones hosting it?
#386 [01:29] <viking667> that's the idea, yes
#387 [01:29] <CidianToby> inside their own network
#388 [01:29] <viking667> yes.
#389 [01:29] <viking667> as it currently stands, they use the browser to access the classic client anyhow
#390 [01:30] <viking667> and now I have to go stab some meat
#391 [01:30] <viking667> ... and smack some starch around.
#392 [01:30] <Wug> viking667: yes. we know. thats how the classic client works
#393 [01:30] <Wug> now just do it
#394 [01:30] <CidianToby> ok now im on the same page.. this is what i did to my network.. some routers have an options to set a certin pc to keep the same ip address at all times with in the dchp pool
#395 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> CidianToby - Classic and beta architecture are different
#396 [01:31] <GreyVulpine> You don't connect to a classic server with an ip address
#397 [01:32] <CidianToby> ... so it goes out to the minecraft list and connects back than?
#398 [01:32] <GreyVulpine> Right
#399 [01:33] <CidianToby> that seems more work for the free minecraft than i would personally think
#400 [01:33] <GreyVulpine> Allows for a centralized minecraft server list, and ease of use for clients to connect.
#401 [01:34] <GreyVulpine> instead of having to memorize/record server ip addresses, they can just click on the name on the list
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#403 [01:34] <CidianToby> and yet nothing would ever be easy when i would do it.. but maybe thats jsut me..
#404 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> The server admin does the same thing, port forwards 25565.
#405 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> The server software does all the hard stuff, heartbeats to the central MC list, lists itself for you
#406 [01:36] <CidianToby> but if the server hosts ip changes due to dhcp than the port forward is rendered null
#407 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Server admin's fault for doing DHCP either way
#408 [01:36] <Wug> CidianToby: not true
#409 [01:36] <Wug> only if the internal ip changes does port forwarding break
#410 [01:37] <Wug> external ip is mediated by the router, which will forward any incoming address as long as theres a rule for it
#411 [01:37] <CidianToby> thats what i mean the server admin isnt the gateway adress. it would be the computers adress.. so doing a reserve ip on the router would still need to be done for that one host
#412 [01:38] <Wug> well its not required but it certainly helps
#413 [01:39] * guest-0-70133 [guest-0-70133@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#414 [01:40] <guest-0-70133> i need some help :(
#415 [01:40] <rymate1234> ?? ask
#416 [01:40] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#417 [01:40] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#418 [01:40] <guest-0-70133> keep getting a too many failed logins message when I try to login
#419 [01:42] <guest-0-70133> which as you could imagine is really getting on my nerves...
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#421 [01:42] <rymate1234> sounds like someone tried to hack uo
#422 [01:42] <guest-0-70133> thats what I thought
#423 [01:42] <CidianToby> funny im having the same problem
#424 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> Nah, it's the problem with the login server
#425 [01:42] <rymate1234> olol
#426 [01:42] <guest-0-70133> aah, ok
#427 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> Nothing you can do but either wait, or use the in-browser client
#428 [01:42] <rymate1234> so its @mollstam
#429 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> The mojang web admin's been working on the backend for a few days
#430 [01:43] * GreyVulpine nods
#430 [01:43] <guest-0-70133> thats all good, ill just wait for now. at least I know whats going on now.
#431 [01:43] <rymate1234> imma go bug him
#432 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> He already knows about it
#433 [01:43] <CidianToby> well night all..
#434 [01:43] <rymate1234> lol
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#436 [01:44] <guest-0-70133> congrats to mojang too if any of you are here on your recent legal win
#437 [01:44] <guest-0-70133> hopefully bethesda dont act like mongrels and appeal it.,
#438 [01:44] <TRLee> So, having a problem with minecraft disconnecting me from a server, and when I try to connect again, it says I'm having problems connecting to the server. But if I reset my internet connection on my computer, or restart my computer it'll usually work fine again. Oh, and it sometimes won't let me log back in if I exit out of minecraft.
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#440 [01:45] <TRLee> It gets annoying to get kicked every so often. Help?
#441 [01:45] <guest-0-70133> sounds like a modem or internet connection issue
#442 [01:45] <guest-0-70133> how old is it?
#443 [01:45] <TRLee> But it's not. I can connect to the internet at will when I get disconnected from the server.
#444 [01:46] <TRLee> pop up google or something right away.
#445 [01:46] <guest-0-70133> hmm....
#446 [01:46] <guest-0-70133> have you tried a fresh install?
#447 [01:46] <guest-0-70133> and are you running it from behind a firewall>
#448 [01:46] <TRLee> No, but I just actually installed it recently, about 2 weeks ago on this computer.
#449 [01:47] <TRLee> I don't believe behind a firewall, but I do have security on my modem for wireless.
#450 [01:47] <TRLee> err, router, sorry.
#451 [01:47] <guest-0-70133> dont believe, or know?
#452 [01:48] <guest-0-70133> you've probably got the windows firewall up
#453 [01:48] <guest-0-70133> thats just a guess tho
#454 [01:48] <TRLee> I don't know.
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#456 [01:48] <TRLee> It could be possible., but I'm not sure how to check.
#457 [01:48] <guest-0-70133> windows 7?
#458 [01:48] <TRLee> That's the one.
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#460 [01:49] <guest-0-70133> go into control panel
#461 [01:49] <TRLee> got it
#462 [01:49] <libraryaddict> Anyone ever encountered a bug where a map is playable. Port forwarded and everything
#463 [01:49] <libraryaddict> But only you can connect to a certain map?
#464 [01:49] <libraryaddict> Everyone else cant see server
#465 [01:49] <libraryaddict> Unless you change maps
#466 [01:50] <libraryaddict> Im at my wits end
#467 [01:50] <guest-0-70133> nope
#468 [01:50] <Juze> guest-0-70133: Mojang isn't really affliated with this channel. It appears mollstam has been here idle for many days, that's all. You barely see any Mojang members in here or #minecraft
#469 [01:50] <guest-0-70133> TRLee, try giving an exception in the firewall for the game to pass
#470 [01:51] <guest-0-70133> ^thats cool juze
#471 [01:51] <Juze> It would be also nice to have name for you in IRC. /nick YourNickName
#472 [01:52] <viking667> mine's not quite that simple...
#473 [01:52] <ashleydoran> done
#474 [01:52] <viking667> ;ahhh, I see. Sorry.
#475 [01:52] <TRLee> I'm attempting to guest-0-70133
#476 [01:53] <TRLee> Okay, so whenever I click on any option, it just says I'm not using the recommended settings, and asks if I want to use them
#477 [01:53] <TRLee> but won't allow me to allow programs, or turn the firewall on or off
#478 [01:53] <TRLee> notta
#479 [01:54] <ashleydoran> are you administrator on that PC?
#480 [01:54] <TRLee> and sorry, i meant ashleydoran
#481 [01:54] <TRLee> Yes I am
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#483 [01:54] <ashleydoran> well, i think ive exausted my computer knowledge...
#484 [01:55] <ashleydoran> anyone else?
#485 [01:55] <TRLee> Well thanks for the shot
#486 [01:55] <Wug> libraryaddict: is this craftbukkit
#487 [01:55] <Wug> because bukkit sucks like that
#488 [01:55] <libraryaddict> Nope
#489 [01:55] <Wug> ip?
#490 [01:55] <libraryaddict> Vannila with Modloader
#491 [01:55] <libraryaddict> And its local
#492 [01:55] <Juze> What's wrong with Bukkit?
#493 [01:55] <Juze> @ Wug
#494 [01:55] <libraryaddict> I could port forward it you like
#495 [01:56] <Wug> Juze: I've seen issues where it would fail to form connections despite ports being forwarded fine
#496 [01:56] <Wug> vanilla would work fine
#497 [01:56] <Juze> Plugin issue perhaps?
#498 [01:56] <Wug> then bukkit, with the exact same server config, would fail to accept nonlocal clients
#499 [01:56] <Juze> o_O
#500 [01:56] <Juze> I suspect Java
#501 [01:57] <Wug> I've seen too many bukkit issues to suspect anything but bukkit
#502 [01:57] <Juze> But you know how majority of servers are and will be Bukkit
#503 [01:57] <libraryaddict> O.o
#504 [01:57] <Juze> And I still say JRE7 is not a culprit, but go ahead :3
#505 [01:57] <libraryaddict> Its now working fine
#506 [01:57] * libraryaddict kicks the pc
#506 [01:57] <Wug> the bukkit server I played on recently had in addition to a bunch of issues that were caused by out of date plugins, persistent, horrible, repeated lagspikes
#507 [01:58] <Juze> GC bug in specific CraftBukkit builds
#508 [01:58] <Juze> And solution: CraftBukkitUpToDate
#509 [01:58] <Juze> GC or hardware :P
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#511 [01:59] <Wug> Juze: most recent build
#512 [01:59] <Juze> But you're missing so many things Bukkit has to offer if you play vanilla, plus the antihacks
#513 [01:59] <Juze> Wug: Use RBs lolololol
#514 [01:59] <Wug> I write mods for vanilla
#515 [01:59] <Wug> "mods" "vanilla"
#516 [01:59] <Wug> heh
#517 [01:59] <Juze> ItemCraft
#518 [01:59] <Juze> Though Vanilla is preferrable in that case
#519 [01:59] <Juze> But meh, Spout ftw
#520 [02:00] <Wug> I've had nothing but issues with bukkit when trying to use it
#521 [02:00] <Juze> Anyway, back on topic?
#522 [02:00] <Wug> libraryaddict's problem magically went away on its own
#523 [02:01] <libraryaddict> Auctally
#524 [02:01] <libraryaddict> I was using mcedit alot :\
#525 [02:01] <libraryaddict> Idk if that helped
#526 [02:01] <libraryaddict> Oohh
#527 [02:01] <libraryaddict> And router reset..
#528 [02:01] * libraryaddict facepalms
#528 [02:01] <libraryaddict> nvrm
#529 [02:01] <libraryaddict> Not router
#530 [02:01] <libraryaddict> It worked fine on other maps
#531 [02:01] <Wug> ;ip libraryaddict
#532 [02:01] <WugBot> IP address of libraryaddict is: 115.188.12.137
#533 [02:01] <Wug> !check 115.188.12.137
#534 [02:02] <libraryaddict> I didnt port forward ;D
#535 [02:02] * Wug stabs libraryaddict
#535 [02:02] <libraryaddict> I could but then only ppl with mods can install :D
#536 [02:02] <libraryaddict> get in*
#537 [02:03] <TheNoodle> ..wat
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#540 [02:22] <Iridium> wow it's quiet in here
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#542 [02:28] <fault> ??< win/dxdiag
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#544 [02:36] <Iridium> i believe it's a > not a <
#545 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> > directs it to a person. < directs it to yourself
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#547 [02:40] <NikostratosX> I figured out what was wrong!
#548 [02:40] <NikostratosX> :)
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#550 [02:41] <NikostratosX> Grey, wanna know what it was?
#551 [02:41] <NikostratosX> So that maybe you can advise it later should another noob like me come along
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#553 [02:44] <bugweiser> hello?
#554 [02:45] <almostroot> I would have helped, but they left too fast, and their username made me associate the taste of budweiser with the sensation of swallowing a bug in my drink.
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#556 [02:49] <viking6671> whoops
#557 [02:49] <Iridium> oh i see
#558 [02:49] <Iridium> anybody ever played any hacking or text based games?
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#560 [02:51] <viking667> owwww, sucks
#561 [03:06] <NikostratosX> I have iridium!
#562 [03:06] <NikostratosX> Slavehack ftw :3
#563 [03:06] <Iridium> ah i played that
#564 [03:07] <NikostratosX> I'm fully loaded. max soft ware. 6m euro. max hardware. :3
#565 [03:07] <Iridium> managed to acquire a GS somehow with max soft
#566 [03:07] <NikostratosX> oh and a maxed gs xD
#567 [03:07] <Iridium> then lost interest
#568 [03:07] <NikostratosX> yep pretty much
#569 [03:07] <Iridium> but i was thinking more of an offline one
#570 [03:07] <Iridium> along the lines of uplink
#571 [03:07] <NikostratosX> every now and then i log into a bank and prey on noobs
#572 [03:08] <Iridium> i've heard streehacker is good but i don't want to pay
#573 [03:08] <NikostratosX> i like the multiplayer ability to fack with people so i never tried those. they look good tho, especially uplink
#574 [03:09] <Iridium> i can't remember why i stopped playing uplink
#575 [03:09] <NikostratosX> Does anyone know of a good seed to work on building a massive base with, perhaps near a npc city?
#576 [03:10] <Iridium> although not being able to alt-tab was surely part of it
#577 [03:10] <NikostratosX> i wouldnt know iri :P and most likely. but i dont alt-tab, i start :P
#578 [03:11] <Iridium> oh i remember now
#579 [03:11] <Iridium> i managed to bork it a couple of times
#580 [03:11] <Iridium> if you fail one particular mission you can't advance
#581 [03:11] <Iridium> and you can't retry the mission either
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#583 [03:11] <NikostratosX> wow that's insane.
#584 [03:11] <Iridium> but after a while it got very samey
#585 [03:12] <NikostratosX> hah..i can imagine. i think ill try it sometime in the future
#586 [03:12] <Iridium> it was like, get a mission to either download, delete or edit a file
#587 [03:12] <NikostratosX> after my mc addiction wares off (it's gonna be a while..)
#588 [03:12] <NikostratosX> lol..wow.
#589 [03:12] <NikostratosX> but realistic, or?
#590 [03:12] <Iridium> then you route your connection around the best set of 10 or so servers
#591 [03:13] <Iridium> not sure, never hacked before
#592 [03:13] <Iridium> but i don't think so
#593 [03:13] <NikostratosX> hmm.
#594 [03:13] <Iridium> then you use a cracker program, and a couple of others
#595 [03:13] <NikostratosX> ah well..gonna continue my hunting for seeds so ill be a bit delayed
#596 [03:13] <Iridium> kill the logs and then turn in the mission
#597 [03:14] <TheNoodle> heh.
#598 [03:14] <Iridium> and the whole being traced part isn't much of a problem once you get better wares and know the good servers
#599 [03:14] <TheNoodle> I skimmed through parts of the convo and thought I had to kick people.
#600 [03:14] <Iridium> lol
#601 [03:14] <TheNoodle> wrong irc network lol
#602 [03:14] <NikostratosX> lmao what?
#603 [03:15] <Iridium> yeah i'll bet it is, but i don't know any others
#604 [03:15] <TheNoodle> I'm used to these conversations on other irc networks, not here.
#605 [03:15] <TheNoodle> :P
#606 [03:16] <NikostratosX> Lol, well what else we gonna talk about when it's dead silent here.
#607 [03:16] <TheNoodle> hmm
#608 [03:17] <NikostratosX> All I need is a good seed for a mountainy area
#609 [03:17] <TheNoodle> I need helpz with mah minecrafts
#610 [03:17] <TheNoodle> y u no help me?????
#611 [03:17] <TheNoodle> helloooooooo?
#612 [03:17] <TheNoodle> umad vox?
#613 [03:17] <NikostratosX> >.> if you can kick, you should know what your doin. xD
#614 [03:17] <Iridium> lmao
#615 [03:18] <TheNoodle> NikostratosX, my minecrafts isnt workingggg
#616 [03:18] <Iridium> you've no idea how close i was to asking what the problem is there noodle :P
#617 [03:18] <Iridium> but it's so true
#618 [03:18] <TheNoodle> lol
#619 [03:18] <NikostratosX> <--is a noob, dont ask me
#620 [03:18] <NikostratosX> :P
#621 [03:19] <Iridium> they come in here saying they have a problem but don't tell you what it is
#622 [03:19] <Iridium> and wonder why you aren't helping them
#623 [03:19] <Iridium> idk how you guys cope with it
#624 [03:20] <NikostratosX> lol. I only ever do that to get the "whats the problem" question. I'm not gonna post a paragraph of issue for it to be ignored :P
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#626 [03:21] <TheNoodle> Meh, type out your question anyway, I tent to go for people that post said paragraphs
#627 [03:22] <NikostratosX> Unless that chat is busy I post anyways, depends i guess. Anyways! I need a seed for a big mountain and stuff..something for making a nifty mountain base.
#628 [03:24] <Iridium> i think just about every seed will have some mountains in
#629 [03:24] <Iridium> but it might be worth checking out some seed sites
#630 [03:24] <Iridium> idk personally since i try to avoid mountains
#631 [03:25] <NikostratosX> 4282719574581682183
#632 [03:25] <NikostratosX> try it :3 it's amazing.
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#634 [03:26] <mib_5zxf0n> umm i don't know what im doing
#635 [03:26] <TheNoodle> lol
#636 [03:26] <TheNoodle> LOL
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#643 [03:52] <McPlusPlus> [NotchBlog] superspecialpeople: | | MARKUS | | <3 (Anonymous) - http://is.gd/Hcs1Ec
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#646 [04:05] <Mrpimpsta> Hello
#647 [04:05] <Mrpimpsta> I need some assistance
#648 [04:05] <Mrpimpsta> Anyone here?
#649 [04:05] <lemon-rev> explane your trouble,
#650 [04:06] <lemon-rev> other wise we cant help with help
#651 [04:06] <Mrpimpsta> Okie
#652 [04:06] <Mrpimpsta> So i cant start my mine craft i after i log in
#653 [04:06] <Mrpimpsta> My whole computer goes black and then goes back to normal
#654 [04:06] <Mrpimpsta> And mine craft is black
#655 [04:07] <lemon-rev> goto java.com make sure its up todate
#656 [04:07] <Mrpimpsta> Same with browser
#657 [04:07] <Mrpimpsta> Did that
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#659 [04:07] <Mrpimpsta> Its java 6
#660 [04:07] <lemon-rev> windows / mac
#661 [04:07] <Mrpimpsta> Windows
#662 [04:07] <lemon-rev> ??> Mrpimpsta win/dxdiag
#663 [04:07] <VoxelHead> Mrpimpsta: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#664 [04:07] <VoxelHead> Mrpimpsta: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#665 [04:08] <Mrpimpsta> One sec
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#667 [04:08] <Mrpimpsta> Win? Where tht key at
#668 [04:09] <lemon-rev> between ctrl + alt
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#670 [04:11] <Mrpimpsta> http://pastebin.com/h8TtJtCr
#671 [04:11] <Mrpimpsta> There
#672 [04:13] <lemon-rev> ty
#673 [04:14] <lemon-rev> ok
#674 [04:14] <lemon-rev> try
#675 [04:14] <lemon-rev> ??> Mrpimpsta win/reinst
#676 [04:14] <VoxelHead> Mrpimpsta: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#677 [04:14] <VoxelHead> Mrpimpsta: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#678 [04:14] <Mrpimpsta> Did tht
#679 [04:14] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: Where did you get this video card driver?
#680 [04:14] <lemon-rev> everything is uptodate it should be working well, tell me what happens after you do that
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#682 [04:14] <Mrpimpsta> Already like 5 times
#683 [04:15] <lemon-rev> mr_pimpsta can you answer thrae
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#685 [04:15] <Iff> Hello everyone. Tell me please, was here somebody named Farami?
#686 [04:15] <Mrpimpsta> What?
#687 [04:16] <lemon-rev> thrae asked where did you get your video card drivers from
#688 [04:16] <Grim_Reaper> Morning
#689 [04:16] <lemon-rev> mrnin
#690 [04:16] <lemon-rev> morn*
#691 [04:17] <Mrpimpsta> Best Buy right out of the box why
#692 [04:17] <Mrpimpsta> Good price 2
#693 [04:17] <lemon-rev> hm, so brand new drivers and stuff anyways
#694 [04:17] <Mrpimpsta> All i need know is a new ps and cpu and mother board and ram -.-
#695 [04:17] <lemon-rev> mr_pimpsta how many times have you tryed via the web page and uninstalling it from the .minecraft folder ?
#696 [04:18] <Mrpimpsta> Countless
#697 [04:18] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: Download the Display Driver specifically from http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_vista-32.aspx#2 . Also download the Suite, just in case. Then download and install Driver Sweeper from http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html . Then uninstall the display drivers specifically from Programs and Features.
#698 [04:18] <Mrpimpsta> Do u have teamveiwer
#699 [04:19] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: Next, go into Safe Mode and use Driver Sweeper to remove every part of ATI/AMD display drivers. Reboot again, install Catalyst Suite and then Display Drivers (two separate installs) which you downloaded earlier.
#700 [04:19] <Mrpimpsta> Woo tht sounds crazy
#701 [04:19] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: Basically there's something funky going on with your drivers -- both the version and date are wrong, and I want you to take no chances on reinstall.
#702 [04:20] <Iff> Erm. I have a problem. Minecraft SMP crashes instantly, when I trying place a block. Server says something weirg, then "disconnect.GenericReason". Got installed IC2+BC+RP
#703 [04:20] <Iff> Oh, 1.8.1 of course
#704 [04:20] <Mrpimpsta> Tht sounds bad
#705 [04:20] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: What you are experiencing, your screen going black and then recovering, means your display driver is crashing and then Vista recovers. It's a new feature in Vista, allowing display drivers to crash and recover without a BSOD.
#706 [04:21] <Mrpimpsta> Hmm but it dosent do tht with any of my other games?
#707 [04:22] <Iff> Could anyone help me, please? I'm tired of suffering.
#708 [04:22] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: That's no real indication. Minecraft uses an ancient version of OpenGL, and uses it through Java -- it doesn't work like pretty much any other games.
#709 [04:23] <Thrae> Iff: Are mods installed on this server?
#710 [04:23] <Thrae> Iff: Is this vanilla with mods, or a server mod like Bukkit?
#711 [04:23] <Mrpimpsta> So are u telling me tht my video card could soon break if i dont do these?
#712 [04:23] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: No. This is software only. There's no indication there's any problem with your hardware.
#713 [04:23] <Iff> Thrae, yep, Buildcraft 2.2.0 + Industrialcraft2 v1.15 + Redpower. No conflicts. Launching throught minecraft_server.jar
#714 [04:24] <Thrae> ?? mods
#715 [04:24] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#716 [04:24] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#717 [04:24] <Thrae> Iff: If it happens in vanilla-only we can help. Otherwise, #risucraft .
#718 [04:24] <Mrpimpsta> Do u think it will change when 1.9 comes out?
#719 [04:24] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: This isn't a problem with Minecraft, so doubtful.
#720 [04:25] <Mrpimpsta> I wanna play minecraft darn but wht u sayin sound risky and complicated
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#722 [04:26] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: It's not risky. If you want to use a Windows PC computer for gaming you will have to install display drivers. This is a fact. Everyone has to do this. If you have a problem with display drivers you reinstall/update them. This is a fact. Everyone does this.
#723 [04:26] <lemon-rev> Mrpimpsta when it loads up mc im talking about how much does the green loading bar get to before it stops ?
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#725 [04:27] <Mrpimpsta> Get all the way
#726 [04:27] <lemon-rev> check your anitvirus and firewall for possible blockage
#727 [04:27] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: If you're so scared of using Driver Sweeper you can skip that part and just uninstall the Display Drivers from Programs and Features, reboot, then reinstall them from http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_vista-32.aspx#2 and the Catalyst Suite from http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_vista-32.aspx
#728 [04:28] <Mrpimpsta> Thrae dont need to be mean
#729 [04:29] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: If I was being mean I would have stopped trying to help you instead of giving you another option.
#730 [04:29] <Mrpimpsta> "If ur so scared"?
#731 [04:30] <lemon-rev> Mrpimpsta so far thrae has given you options and you have taken non e
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#733 [04:31] <Mrpimpsta> I wanna do wht he says
#734 [04:31] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: Because your fears are unfounded. I do both gaming QA and gaming support professionally and we use Driver Sweeper all the time. And it
#735 [04:31] <Thrae> And it's a fact your drivers are messed up.
#736 [04:32] <Thrae> I'm guessing the video card came with something like beta drivers on a CD/DVD.
#737 [04:32] <Mr_workushama> guys if a "jckpalmer" comes on looking for me don't give it away :D
#738 [04:33] <Mr_workushama> (it's my boss >_>)
#739 [04:33] <TheNoodle> ...wat
#740 [04:33] <Mrpimpsta> Its saying java plate form se somthing is not working
#741 [04:33] <Mr_workushama> well somehow my boss found me lastnight
#742 [04:34] <lemon-rev> Mrpimpsta then how about trying to uninstall java and reinstall it ?
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#745 [04:35] <Mrpimpsta> Ill try tht
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#747 [04:38] <Mrpimpsta> Hey threa
#748 [04:38] <Mrpimpsta> U still here
#749 [04:38] <Thrae> Yes?
#750 [04:38] <lemon-rev> yes :)
#751 [04:38] * lemon-rev waves to thrae :)
#751 [04:39] <Mrpimpsta> What files do i need from amd site
#752 [04:39] <Thrae> Catalyst Suite from http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_vista-32.aspx AND the Display Driver from http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_vista-32.aspx#2
#753 [04:39] <lemon-rev> ....me is being quite now.....
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#755 [04:43] <Mrpimpsta> Okie when those are done downloading then i unistal
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#757 [04:43] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: Yes, uninstall both the AMD/ATI Display Drivers and Catalyst Suite from Programs and Features. Reboot, reinstall from the files you downloaded (first Suite then Display Driver).
#758 [04:44] <Mrpimpsta> Okie Where do i find the display drivers and catalyst suite
#759 [04:44] <Mrpimpsta> I cant find a profarms and features file
#760 [04:44] <Thrae> You use Programs and Features to uninstall programs. It's in Control Panel.
#761 [04:45] <Mrpimpsta> Okie then i use driver sweeper on my video card
#762 [04:46] <Thrae> If you're going to use Driver Sweeper you'll want to do it from Safe Mode -- http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm
#763 [04:47] <Mrpimpsta> Bah i cant find amd atid display drivers on the list :(
#764 [04:48] <Mrpimpsta> I feal so stupid
#765 [04:48] <Thrae> At least uninstall the Catalyst Suite. Driver Sweeper should do the rest.
#766 [04:49] <Mrpimpsta> Okie one thing im in remove program and i cant find catalyst suite
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#768 [04:50] <Thrae> Well then you'll have to depend on Driver Sweeper.
#769 [04:50] <Mrpimpsta> Okie so go into safe mode when i reboot
#770 [04:51] <Mrpimpsta> Then use driver sweeper
#771 [04:51] <Thrae> Install Driver Sweeper, go into Safe Mode, use Driver Sweeper on AMD/ATI Display Drivers (from a big list).
#772 [04:51] <Mrpimpsta> Okey then i reboot again?
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#774 [04:51] <Mrpimpsta> And then i reinstall the suit and display
#775 [04:52] <Thrae> Yes, you're just in Safe Mode so it doesn't load drivers so you can uninstall them.
#776 [04:52] <Mrpimpsta> Do i install the Suit and display while im in safe mode?
#777 [04:53] <Thrae> You can't install drivers in safe mode. Just uninstall them. Do it after you reboot.
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#779 [04:53] <Mrpimpsta> Okie
#780 [04:53] <Cruxsky> is it just me or is https://minecon.mojang.com/contact down
#781 [04:53] <Thrae> !isdown https://minecon.mojang.com/contact
#782 [04:54] <Cruxsky> thats the page after i try to submit a contact form
#783 [04:54] <Thrae> Cruxsky: http://minecon.mojang.com/contact not https://minecon.mojang.com/contact
#784 [04:55] <Cruxsky> no thats the page when i click submit on the contact page
#785 [04:55] <Cruxsky> so its not working
#786 [04:55] <Mrpimpsta> Hey can i unistall the driver from device manager
#787 [04:56] <Thrae> Mrpimpsta: Yes, as long as you use Driver Sweeper as well
#788 [04:56] <Thrae> Cruxsky: Hmm, I got the same thing. Oh well, it's unlikely they'll be able to respond to you as Minecon is really close now.
#789 [04:57] <Mrpimpsta> Okie the 2 files are done downloading here i go
#790 [04:59] <ryl2> Thrae: I though minecon was the 18th?
#791 [04:59] <ryl2> Fff Got renamed again...
#792 [05:00] <lemon-rev> Ryladine register your nick, doesnt garentie that your nick wont change but it will keep it yours
#793 [05:00] <Akad> hi, I have a problem with the ec ELV payment, who can help me? pls PM me.
#794 [05:01] <Ryladine> Nah, it's not that lemon, the nick is registered, my net times out, and i rejoin before the ghost is gone, mIRC autimatically renames me.
#795 [05:02] <Thrae> Ryladine: Even closer then.
#796 [05:02] <lemon-rev> Ryladine you know you can get that nick ghost thing to auto chime in when you join the channel or connect to the server :P
#797 [05:03] <Ryladine> Lol, I can tell Mirc to run it when i join a channel, but I'm too lazy XD
#798 [05:03] <lemon-rev> hahahahaha ok, just as long as your awre :)
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#800 [05:03] <lemon-rev> aware*
#801 [05:04] <mib_a7ihbo> Lemon
#802 [05:04] <lemon-rev> yes ?
#803 [05:04] <mib_a7ihbo> Make sure u stay on for a bit
#804 [05:04] <lemon-rev> hm, i have been on for most of the day lol
#805 [05:04] <mib_a7ihbo> After i wipe my display driver
#806 [05:04] <lemon-rev> k
#807 [05:04] <mib_a7ihbo> Ty
#808 [05:05] <Thrae> I'm not going anywhere for a while. Got a whole pizza!
#809 [05:05] <mib_a7ihbo> Lemon can i jus use the cd that came with my radeon 6570?
#810 [05:05] <lemon-rev> lol, ill eat that in 5 mins
#811 [05:05] <Ryladine> mib_a7ihbo: That would likely be outdated
#812 [05:05] <lemon-rev> you could but if you can get them from the web site then it would be even better
#813 [05:05] <Thrae> mib_a7ihbo: The entire reason you're doing this is to NOT use the drivers from the CD/DVD.
#814 [05:06] <mib_a7ihbo> Okie there almost done downloading
#815 [05:06] <Thrae> Specifically with mib_a7ihbo I think his CD/DVD has Beta Drivers
#816 [05:06] <Thrae> Driver version and date are wrong
#817 [05:06] <mib_a7ihbo> Im runnin a wooping .75 mgb conection
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#819 [05:06] <Thrae> mib_a7ihbo: It's either Megabits or Gigabits, not both....
#820 [05:07] <mib_a7ihbo> Megabits lol
#821 [05:07] <mib_a7ihbo> Sorry
#822 [05:07] <mib_a7ihbo> Really slow
#823 [05:07] <curby24> allo, keep getting black screen of death as the loading bar comes on just after i log in help meeeee xD
#824 [05:08] <mib_a7ihbo> Anyof u guys play dead island?
#825 [05:08] <mib_a7ihbo> HAHA curby omg im having the same prop
#826 [05:08] <Thrae> curby24: OK, are you on Windows, Mac, Linux?
#827 [05:08] <curby24> windows
#828 [05:08] <Thrae> curby24: Try updating your video card drivers. Do you know how?
#829 [05:09] <curby24> iv checke graphics drivers are up to date and my system says they are, also i checked java ;)
#830 [05:09] <Thrae> ??> curby24 win/dxdiag
#831 [05:09] <VoxelHead> curby24: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#832 [05:09] <VoxelHead> curby24: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#833 [05:10] <curby24> http://pastebin.com/3pTmyCC4
#834 [05:10] <curby24> :)
#835 [05:11] <mib_a7ihbo> Holy shit ur computer sucks lol
#836 [05:11] <curby24> oh i no xD
#837 [05:11] <curby24> it runs wow tho so i can cope xD just need to get it runnin minecraft x
#838 [05:11] <Thrae> curby24: Alright, actually there's a bug with Intel Series 4 chipsets.
#839 [05:11] <curby24> D
#840 [05:12] <curby24> oh ok :S
#841 [05:12] <Thrae> It's Intel's bug, not Minecraft's...one sec
#842 [05:12] <mib_a7ihbo> Hey curby
#843 [05:12] <Ryladine> :o there is? Inform me of it later please thrae XD
#844 [05:12] <curby24> ello
#845 [05:13] <mib_a7ihbo> Wanna buy a 4550 radeon hd?
#846 [05:13] <curby24> :O ello again
#847 [05:13] <curby24> no lol
#848 [05:13] <Thrae> ??> curby24 win/gpu/intel
#849 [05:13] <VoxelHead> curby24: (win/gpu/intel) Some of the newer Intel graphics chipsets on Windows need Java to be limited to 800MB to avoid OpenGL errors. Try using this tool to launch Minecraft:
#850 [05:13] <VoxelHead> curby24: (win/gpu/intel) http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Intel-MC.bat
#851 [05:13] <Thrae> mib_a7ihbo: If you couldn't tell, curby24 has a laptop.
#852 [05:13] <curby24> i blew my purdy pc up :'(
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#854 [05:13] <mib_a7ihbo> Well he could make a desktop
#855 [05:14] <Thrae> Ryladine: Have you been following http://www.minecraftirc.net/forum-18-page-1.html ?
#856 [05:14] <curby24> ok on it
#857 [05:14] <mib_a7ihbo> Okie time to wipe my drivers brb
#858 [05:14] <Ryladine> No, lol I've not been keeping up with much of the minecraft tech recently
#859 [05:14] <Ryladine> I'll have to read through it later.
#860 [05:15] <Thrae> Ryladine: Well that's the reason I wanted a forum :) It's mostly just me posting there right now.
#861 [05:15] <Ryladine> Thx
#862 [05:15] <curby24> black screen of death :'(
#863 [05:17] <Thrae> curby24: Is there anything in errorlog.txt ?
#864 [05:18] <curby24> i ont even get an error box thingie just black
#865 [05:18] <Thrae> curby24: That batch file will make an errorlog.txt file.
#866 [05:19] <curby24> theres a box with user settins, recipies and achievements thats all
#867 [05:20] <Thrae> And you're looking in the errorlog.txt file?
#868 [05:20] <curby24> bah iv no idea xD
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#870 [05:20] <Thrae> The errorlog.txt file will wherever you placed the batch file, in the same folder. If you placed the batch file on your desktop then it'll be on your desktop.
#871 [05:21] <Thrae> curby24: Try installing this graphics driver -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20190/a08/Win7Vista_64_151717.exe
#872 [05:21] <curby24> ah i found the error log lol
#873 [05:23] <curby24> the driver being installed is not validated for this computer, please obtain the appropriate driver from the computer manufacturer
#874 [05:23] <curby24> i must have tried like 50 drivers lol fml xD
#875 [05:23] <Thrae> curby24: Use an archive tool like 7zip to extract the contents of the EXE, then follow the Driver Update Wizard instructions here -- http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-022355.htm
#876 [05:24] <curby24> okie okie
#877 [05:25] <Thrae> curby24: You'd either open the EXE through 7zip/WinRAR/etc. or right-click and use the "Extract" option from the program you install (program being 7zip, WinRAR, etc.)
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#879 [05:26] <curby24> can u explain what to do in noob speak lol im gettin confused xD
#880 [05:27] <Jorgensen> Tired of niggers?
#881 [05:27] * AuBot kicked Jorgensen from #minecrafthelp (Reason: orgensen :Please keep it civil.)
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#883 [05:27] <Jorgensen> Tired of nhiggers?
#884 [05:27] <Jorgensen> Sick of their monkeyshines?
#885 [05:27] <Jorgensen> We are too!
#886 [05:27] <Ryladine> ....
#887 [05:27] <TheNoodle> !kick Jorgensen
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#890 [05:27] <Thrae> curby24: OK, download this instead -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20191/a08/Win7Vista_64_151717.zip
#891 [05:28] <curby24> okie :)
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#893 [05:29] <Cruxsky> guys possible to build a computer from scratch under 300 dollars?
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#895 [05:29] <|Kiikun|Janus|> if you have parts
#896 [05:30] <Cruxsky> i mean total cost of parts = under 300 dollars
#897 [05:30] <|Kiikun|Janus|> otherwise the parts you could only uy for 300 would be suckage
#898 [05:30] <Thrae> Cruxsky: Yes, but it'll suck very hard. You'd get a better computer pre-built, but not by much.
#899 [05:30] <|Kiikun|Janus|> meaning your buying parts off ebay
#900 [05:30] <Thrae> Also you'd better be in the US for that price
#901 [05:31] <Cruxsky> how would it suck?
#902 [05:31] <petern> you might manage an atom-based pc
#903 [05:31] <Thrae> Cruxsky: You wouldn't have much of a video card for gaming, and no fast processor, so it'd be able to do stuff like H.264 playback and Flash games but that's about it.
#904 [05:31] <Cruxsky> o.o
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#915 [05:38] <curby24> not worked - the computer does not meet the minimum requirements blah blah
#916 [05:39] <curby24> :(
#917 [05:40] <Thrae> curby24: One sec. I'll see if I can mod the drivers.
#918 [05:41] <curby24> okie
#919 [05:41] * |Kiikun|Janus| tests
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#920 [05:42] <Jorgensen> Tired of nhhiiggers?
#921 [05:42] <Jorgensen> Sick of their monkeyshines?
#922 [05:42] <Jorgensen> We are too!
#923 [05:42] <Jorgensen> Join Chimpout Forum!
#924 [05:43] <Cruxsky> how much would be the cheapest computer builld that does not suck
#925 [05:43] <Kata> He did the same in the #minecraftforums, but no one was there.
#926 [05:44] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Cruxsky: you could by a prebuilt from somewhere or... parts from newegg id say 600 if you dont need monitor or mouse or keybd
#927 [05:44] <TheNoodle> !kick Jorgensen
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#929 [05:45] <TheNoodle> waiting for dragonweyr :P
#930 [05:45] <Cruxsky> what the shit?
#931 [05:45] <Cruxsky> i thought PCs were like 200 dollars lol
#932 [05:45] <|Kiikun|Janus|> um.... no
#933 [05:45] <|Kiikun|Janus|> a good processor and motherboard can run you 200
#934 [05:46] <|Kiikun|Janus|> USD that is
#935 [05:46] <Thrae> curby24: OK, try installing http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19939/a08/Win7Vista_64_151716.exe
#936 [05:46] <Thrae> Cruxsky: Not if you're building it yourself -- companies like Dell gets parts way cheaper than you can ever get yourself, even if you used Wholesale prices.
#937 [05:47] <Thrae> Cruxsky: Building a custom computer from parts is called "Whiteboxing" and it's generally the more expensive option than buying a pre-built brand-name computer.
#938 [05:47] <Cruxsky> i want to build my own so i can swap out parts easier
#939 [05:48] <Thrae> Cruxsky: You can still swap out parts in a pre-built brand-name computer, and usually have at least some options on things people generally change, like the video card.
#940 [05:49] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Cruxsky: for reference i buildt a friend a comp a year ago aiming for upgradeability and gamability. he had a HD for use and all parts cost $700. he added a monitor upping it to $900\
#941 [05:49] <Thrae> The only thing a brand-name computer manufacturer makes are motherboards, and the motherboards are designed by someone else.
#942 [05:49] <Cruxsky> oh and i only need the tower. have monitor, and all accessories
#943 [05:50] <Thrae> You don't have to buy a monitor when you buy a brand-name computer
#944 [05:51] <|Kiikun|Janus|> the 700 was for the tower :P
#945 [05:51] <Thrae> I would say a budget computer for gaming starts at $500 if buying parts in the US
#946 [05:51] <Thrae> (Just the tower and parts therein)
#947 [05:52] <Cruxsky> oh and im in the us
#948 [05:52] <|Kiikun|Janus|> yeah. likei said, upgradeability, so he had a few above-baseline bits.
#949 [05:52] <Thrae> |Kiikun|Janus|: You mean future-proofing or economic upgradeability ;)
#950 [05:53] * Thrae likes researching both budget and high-end future-proofing and frugality
#950 [05:53] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Thrae: i went a few steps up on processor.. because noone ever upgrades the processor without going the whole shebang :P
#951 [05:54] <Thrae> |Kiikun|Janus|: Well on a gaming computer the video card can cost as much as the motherboard+CPU...people that upgrade *everything* are being greedy ;)
#952 [05:55] <|Kiikun|Janus|> im fairly sure he has usb3 sata3 and... something else.
#953 [05:55] <Cruxsky> im going to compile a parts list and see how much the total is
#954 [05:55] <Thrae> Cruxsky: http://www.newegg.com has a wish list which is great for that.
#955 [05:55] <Cruxsky> im thinking of amazon
#956 [05:56] <Thrae> You'd get a better price on Newegg, but whatever you want to do
#957 [05:57] <curby24> still not valiated on this feking computer
#958 [05:58] <Cruxsky> is choosing the right case important?
#959 [06:00] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Cruxsky: for airflow, yes. and for space to put all the parts
#960 [06:00] <Thrae> Cruxsky: Yes, bad Fans are a PITA to replace, and you want one that's easy to replace parts. I recommend Antec as they make great cases *AND* PSUs so you can get a Case+PSU combo.
#961 [06:01] * |Kiikun|Janus| is currently liking the Storm Scout :P mmmm red
#961 [06:01] <Thrae> Also Antec makes Budget Cases too.
#962 [06:02] <Thrae> curby24: OK, I'll try to mod the latest drivers, one sec.
#963 [06:02] <curby24> thankyou :)
#964 [06:02] <Thrae> curby24: Can you install http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18228/a08/win7_64_1512754.exe ?
#965 [06:03] <curby24> downloain now :)
#966 [06:03] <Cruxsky> Thrae do you work at Intel or something
#967 [06:03] <TheNoodle> Yep
#968 [06:03] <|Kiikun|Janus|> lol
#969 [06:04] <Thrae> Cruxsky: I'm Steve Jobs.
#970 [06:04] <Cruxsky> O.o
#971 [06:04] <Cruxsky> (╯°□°）╯︵ pob ʎɯ ɥo
#972 [06:05] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ok get the face... lost me on the rest
#973 [06:05] <|Kiikun|Janus|> oh.. nm
#974 [06:07] <curby24> the computer does not meet minimum requirements -_-
#975 [06:08] <curby24> so no i cant install xD
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#977 [06:08] <Cruxsky> Intel or AMD? :o
#978 [06:09] <Thrae> curby24: OK, try http://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles/Driver/Chipset/Chipset_Intel_9.1.1.1015_W7x86W7x64_A.zip?acerid=633919028446261466&Step1=Notebook&Step2=Aspire&Step3=Aspire%205332&OS=721&LC=en&BC=Acer&SC=PA_6
#979 [06:09] <|Kiikun|Janus|> amd is cheeper in cost per ghz.
#980 [06:09] <curby24> downloadin
#981 [06:09] <Thrae> Yeah, if you want to get in $300 then AMD it is
#982 [06:10] <Thrae> 3-Core is fine
#983 [06:11] <Thrae> curby24: Whoops that's the Chipset Driver
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#985 [06:11] <curby24> lol
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#987 [06:11] <Thrae> curby24: OK, try http://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles/Driver/VGA/VGA_Intel_8.15.10.1840_W7x64W7x86_A.zip?acerid=633917135312539143&Step1=Notebook&Step2=Aspire&Step3=Aspire%205332&OS=721&LC=en&BC=Acer&SC=PA_6
#988 [06:11] <Thrae> curby24: Also try http://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles/Driver/VGA/VGA_Intel_8.15.10.1840_W7x64W7x86_A.zip?acerid=633918927656696786&Step1=Notebook&Step2=Aspire&Step3=Aspire%205332&OS=721&LC=en&BC=Acer&SC=PA_6
#989 [06:12] <curby24> okie :)
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#991 [06:15] <|Kiikun|Janus|> 3-core = 4core with a core disabled. some motherboards have the ability to try to reanable the last core
#992 [06:16] <Thrae> |Kiikun|Janus| , Cruxsky : Yep, but even if you can't enable the last core, 3-core is good enough for most games as most of them only have Dual Core support at best.
#993 [06:16] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :P
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#996 [06:25] <curby24> still downloadin lol takes a while xD
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#1000 [06:32] <Cruxsky> oh my god
#1001 [06:32] <Cruxsky> http://pastebin.com/LVkh2FFS
#1002 [06:32] <Cruxsky> 646 was the best i could get as a total
#1003 [06:32] <unitcross> so ive got a bug trying to join a friends server. i'll join the game and i'll be falling in darkness, and then the map won't load. i'll also be disconnected after a short amount of time
#1004 [06:32] <unitcross> the only way for them to fix it is to delete my server file. is there anyway i can avoid this
#1005 [06:33] <Thrae> unitcross: Nope, they'll have to delete your player file
#1006 [06:33] <Cruxsky> have an op tp you?
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#1008 [06:33] <unitcross> tp?
#1009 [06:33] <unitcross> thrae do you know what causes this to happen?
#1010 [06:34] <Thrae> unitcross: Mods, plugins, random corruption
#1011 [06:35] <unitcross> oh teleport.. no i'll disconnect and lag up the server for everyone else
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#1013 [06:38] <curby24> ok iv downloade n extracted now what lol xD
#1014 [06:38] <Thrae> curby24: Either run the setup or use the Update Driver Wizard
#1015 [06:39] <curby24> okie
#1016 [06:40] <Thrae> Cruxsky: And if you used Newegg like I recommended you could shave that down to ~$500 with slightly different parts, same performance.
#1017 [06:41] <Cruxsky> ah well im bad at finding computer parts..
#1018 [06:41] <curby24> wont do it still sayin dosnt meet requirements -_-
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#1020 [06:42] <Thrae> curby24: At this point I'd contact Acer and see what they can do for you, since you have an Acer laptop and those are Acer's own drivers.
#1021 [06:42] <Thrae> Well Intel drivers packaged by Acer.
#1022 [06:42] <curby24> bah ok :( stupid thing
#1023 [06:42] <curby24> ty for tryin lol
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#1025 [06:44] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Cruxsky: your lacking a cd/dvd drive in that list.. unless im missing it
#1026 [06:44] <Cruxsky> oh right...
#1027 [06:44] <Cruxsky> oh well
#1028 [06:45] <Cruxsky> guess im not getting a new computer in a year
#1029 [06:45] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :P
#1030 [06:45] <Thrae> Cruxsky: Like I said, try a brand-name.
#1031 [06:45] <Cruxsky> could you try to compile a list for me? :D?
#1032 [06:46] <Thrae> No -- http://www.dell.com , full computers at http://www.newegg.com , etc.
#1033 [06:48] <LOKIMC> Hey guys y am I getting a minecraft has crashed! error? /watch?v=hZyLGFc9hIs
#1034 [06:48] <LOKIMC> (soz wrong ctrl V)
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#1036 [06:48] <Thrae> Cruxsky: http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-desktops
#1037 [06:49] <Thrae> LOKIMC: Copy the error report to www.pastebin.com and give us the link
#1038 [06:49] <LOKIMC> Can someone help me with this? Minecraft has crashed!
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#1040 [06:50] <LOKIMC> Done, how do i get it to you guys?
#1041 [06:50] <Thrae> Paste the link here in this channel.
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#1043 [06:51] <LOKIMC> kk
#1044 [06:51] <LOKIMC> http://pastebin.com/DfQTAk9z
#1045 [06:51] <Cruxsky> ive had a bad experience with dell
#1046 [06:52] <Cruxsky> all my old dell dimension desktops became slow and died i,i
#1047 [06:52] <Thrae> LOKIMC: Looks like a problem with a mod or texture pack.
#1048 [06:52] <Cruxsky> o.o*
#1049 [06:52] <Thrae> ??> win/reinst/bat LOKIMC
#1050 [06:52] <Thrae> ??> LOKIMC win/reinst/bat
#1051 [06:52] <LOKIMC> Yeh thought so, I got a water shader and it was lagging the hell out of MC, I think its stuffed up... How do I remove it?
#1052 [06:52] <VoxelHead> LOKIMC: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1053 [06:52] <VoxelHead> LOKIMC: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1054 [06:53] <LOKIMC> K thanks
#1055 [06:53] <Thrae> LOKIMC: Yeah specifically it looks like your Water Shader.
#1056 [06:53] <Thrae> Cruxsky: There's no way to get quality for ~$300. I would say ~$700 at least when building yourself.
#1057 [06:54] <LOKIMC> Ok was about to say at least i can fix it but i got an unspecified error (windows error) trying to run your link ...
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#1059 [06:54] <Thrae> ??> LOKIMC win/reinst
#1060 [06:54] <VoxelHead> LOKIMC: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1061 [06:54] <VoxelHead> LOKIMC: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1062 [06:55] <LOKIMC> Ok that worked! Thanks a heap (sorry Cruxsky) :-)
#1063 [06:55] <Cruxsky> ?
#1064 [06:55] <LOKIMC> C ya's
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#1066 [07:02] <gunther> i need help with my game
#1067 [07:02] <Thrae> gunther: That's what we do here. Please be specific.
#1068 [07:04] <gunther> well how do i get to my person in creative mode to put my sword on my guy
#1069 [07:04] <gunther> like armour
#1070 [07:04] <Thrae> gunther: Don't think you can unless you're in SMP and switch between Survival to Creative, since you're invincible in Creative.
#1071 [07:05] <gunther> ohh hold on ill be back
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#1075 [07:09] <gunther> this sucks my computers old so my games relly laggy
#1076 [07:10] * Grim_Reaper knows the feeling
#1076 [07:10] <gunther> and threa if i go to survivel mode creepers will blow my house up
#1077 [07:11] <gunther> so yah
#1078 [07:11] <Grim_Reaper> D:
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#1081 [07:16] <weirdo> i have updated all my drivers and i still am getting the opengl error. what do i need to do to fix this?
#1082 [07:17] <jonzey1234> anyone here that can help me? i keep getting a 'cannot connect to minecraft.net' message when trying to log in...
#1083 [07:19] <Grim_Reaper> jonzey1234 have you checked if internet explorer is in offline mode?
#1084 [07:20] <jonzey1234> what do you mean by offline mode? play the game in offline? :S
#1085 [07:20] <Grim_Reaper> No no
#1086 [07:20] <Grim_Reaper> You know the internet explorer program?
#1087 [07:21] <jonzey1234> yeah, i use firefox though o.o
#1088 [07:21] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah but open internet explorer
#1089 [07:21] <Grim_Reaper> And in settings, check if offline mode is turned on/ticked
#1090 [07:21] <jonzey1234> okay
#1091 [07:21] <Grim_Reaper> If it is untick it/turn it off and then try see if you can connect to minecraft.net
#1092 [07:22] <Chris> CRASH TACKLE POUNCE
#1093 [07:23] <Grim_Reaper> Chris <3
#1094 [07:23] <Chris> <3
#1095 [07:24] <jonzey1234> when you say settings do you mean the internet options under tools?
#1096 [07:24] <Grim_Reaper> Yup
#1097 [07:24] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry It's been ages since I used IE so Im cant remember the settings whereabouts etc etc that well
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#1100 [07:25] <INeedHelp> Can someone help me get minecraft working?
#1101 [07:25] <MineHelp> I need help to make the spawn town in my server anybody wants to volunteer?
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#1103 [07:26] <jonzey1234> yeah, i havnt used IE for years, i cant find this offline mode button :P
#1104 [07:26] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm lemme check mine quick and I'll get back to you :p
#1105 [07:26] <MineHelp> Can you help me please?
#1106 [07:26] <Grim_Reaper> What do you need help with exactly MineHelp?
#1107 [07:26] <INeedHelp> When i launch minecraft (from the minecraft.net or the launcher) it says 'doneloading'goes to a black screen ad then stops
#1108 [07:27] <INeedHelp> just stops
#1109 [07:27] <MineHelp> Well i need some help for makeing my 1st town in my minecraft server..
#1110 [07:27] <Grim_Reaper> Tried deleting the .minecraft folder in appdata and redownloading?
#1111 [07:27] <MineHelp> huh?
#1112 [07:28] <MineHelp> I need help to make my 1st town in my minecraft server lol
#1113 [07:28] <MineHelp> xD
#1114 [07:28] <Grim_Reaper> Also I take it you have java installed (latest version)
#1115 [07:28] <MineHelp> o.o?
#1116 [07:28] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry I was talking to INeedHelp MineHelp
#1117 [07:28] <MineHelp> i don't need help with mc
#1118 [07:28] <MineHelp> oh ok...
#1119 [07:28] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1120 [07:28] <MineHelp> can you help me plz?
#1121 [07:28] <MineHelp> i am so desperate of help
#1122 [07:28] <Grim_Reaper> Sure. What about your town :3
#1123 [07:28] <Chris> !check 199.115.228.215
#1124 [07:28] <INeedHelp> Grim_Reaper i believe so but do you know the website?
#1125 [07:28] <MineHelp> i keep searching many days for someone to help me
#1126 [07:29] <MineHelp> Well i need to make a town for my server
#1127 [07:29] <Grim_Reaper> Ok jonzey1234
#1128 [07:29] <MineHelp> near the spawn
#1129 [07:29] <Grim_Reaper> Tools > Work offline in the menu
#1130 [07:29] <MineHelp> i have nothing but the spawn...
#1131 [07:29] <MineHelp> i need a "spawn town"
#1132 [07:29] <Grim_Reaper> Spawn town? As in a already made town?
#1133 [07:29] <MineHelp> no
#1134 [07:29] <Chris> MineHelp, keep comenting on the thread in the minecraft forums
#1135 [07:29] <MineHelp> i must make a town near the spawn
#1136 [07:29] <Chris> you'll get people
#1137 [07:29] <MineHelp> u know like the 1st town
#1138 [07:29] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh oky
#1139 [07:30] <MineHelp> can you help me?
#1140 [07:30] <Grim_Reaper> Oh you want help making it?
#1141 [07:30] <MineHelp> yes...
#1142 [07:30] <MineHelp> :<
#1143 [07:30] <jonzey1234> i dont see that, maybe cause i dont have a recent version of IE, i deleted it when i started using FF full time lol
#1144 [07:30] <MineHelp> nobody wants to help me...
#1145 [07:30] <Grim_Reaper> MineHelp maybe later if I have time I'll try help
#1146 [07:30] <Grim_Reaper> Lol jonzey1234
#1147 [07:30] <Grim_Reaper> Ok errm
#1148 [07:30] <Grim_Reaper> What version are you running/
#1149 [07:30] <MineHelp> k...
#1150 [07:30] <MineHelp> :<
#1151 [07:30] <MineHelp> nobody wants to help meh..
#1152 [07:31] <Grim_Reaper> Pm me the ip
#1153 [07:31] <Grim_Reaper> And if I have time I'll help you build it ^^
#1154 [07:31] <Grim_Reaper> Though if you like you can try asking on the forums
#1155 [07:31] <jonzey1234> not a clue lol, i know you cant have tabs in it though lol
#1156 [07:31] <MineHelp> i asked
#1157 [07:31] <MineHelp> i have a post
#1158 [07:31] <MineHelp> since 3 days ago
#1159 [07:31] <MineHelp> xD
#1160 [07:31] <MineHelp> or 2
#1161 [07:32] <Grim_Reaper> Eee
#1162 [07:32] <Grim_Reaper> I think you spoke too fast xp
#1163 [07:32] <INeedHelp> Grim_Reaper i just dowloaded the most recent version of java. trying minecraft now
#1164 [07:32] <Grim_Reaper> K
#1165 [07:32] <AndrewsPanda> anyone here running CommandBook?
#1166 [07:32] <Grim_Reaper> Make sure you uninstall java completely first INeedHelp
#1167 [07:33] <INeedHelp> Grim_Reaper it didnt work. Wait,
#1168 [07:33] <INeedHelp> I goota unistall before reinstal?
#1169 [07:33] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#1170 [07:33] <Grim_Reaper> It's best to do that
#1171 [07:33] <INeedHelp> Uhh k
#1172 [07:34] <INeedHelp> Do you know what its calle din 'Add or Remove Programs'?
#1173 [07:34] <Grim_Reaper> Should be called java
#1174 [07:35] <INeedHelp> Java(TM)6 Update 27 That/
#1175 [07:35] <INeedHelp> ?
#1176 [07:35] <Grim_Reaper> yeah
#1177 [07:35] <Grim_Reaper> It seems you got the same version as me
#1178 [07:35] <Grim_Reaper> So I think you're up to date
#1179 [07:36] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried updating your drivers for your graphics card etc?
#1180 [07:36] <INeedHelp> mine is 90.64 mb of data
#1181 [07:36] <INeedHelp> whats urs/
#1182 [07:36] <Grim_Reaper> Also about that amount
#1183 [07:36] <INeedHelp> KK
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#1185 [07:36] <Grim_Reaper> But yeah. Try updating your graphics card drivers and such
#1186 [07:37] <Grim_Reaper> And see if that helps fix it
#1187 [07:37] <INeedHelp> K i'll try it (if i find out how xD)
#1188 [07:37] <Grim_Reaper> Do you know the graphics card name you have?
#1189 [07:38] <INeedHelp> Nope not at all.... Im looking atm
#1190 [07:39] <Grim_Reaper> OK do the following
#1191 [07:39] <INeedHelp> kk
#1192 [07:39] <Grim_Reaper> ??> win/dxdiag INeedHelp
#1193 [07:39] <Grim_Reaper> woops
#1194 [07:39] <Grim_Reaper> ??> Ineedhelp win/dxdiag
#1195 [07:39] <VoxelHead> Ineedhelp: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1196 [07:39] <VoxelHead> Ineedhelp: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1197 [07:40] <INeedHelp> k its getting some info
#1198 [07:40] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
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#1200 [07:41] <INeedHelp> http://pastebin.com/Gniftsj2
#1201 [07:43] <jonzey1234> im installing the latest IE8, to see if i can find the offline button now... :/
#1202 [07:43] <INeedHelp> WARNING: the computer im trying to get minecraft working on is OLD. my laptop works fine
#1203 [07:43] <Grim_Reaper> Do you not have directx installed INeedHelp?
#1204 [07:43] <INeedHelp> I just used it, did i not?
#1205 [07:43] <Chris> dxdiag == directx
#1206 [07:43] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1207 [07:44] <Chris> he has DX9
#1208 [07:44] <Grim_Reaper> Lol I cant find where it says dx9
#1209 [07:44] <Grim_Reaper> Oh nvm Im blin dp-p
#1210 [07:44] <Chris> yep
#1211 [07:45] <Chris> herpaderpadurrr
#1212 [07:45] <Chris> xD
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#1214 [07:46] <Grim_Reaper> Anyways coming with a link to update your drivers
#1215 [07:46] <INeedHelp> k
#1216 [07:46] <Grim_Reaper> Try this http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.HTML
#1217 [07:49] <Grim_Reaper> I love helping in #minecrafthelp :D
#1218 [07:49] <INeedHelp> :D thanks for tha\e help! :) its dwnloading the stuff off the page
#1219 [07:50] <INeedHelp> Grim_Reaper You know a lot about this stuff :)
#1220 [07:50] <Grim_Reaper> Sadly INeedHelp I dont know that much. I just help where I can ^^
#1221 [07:50] <Grim_Reaper> Lets hope updating will help
#1222 [07:51] <INeedHelp> :) well thankfully it (might be) where i need the help ;)
#1223 [07:51] <Grim_Reaper> Also jonzey1234 lemme know if you can find that work offline button :3
#1224 [07:51] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah lets hope :p
#1225 [07:51] <AndrewsPanda> COMMANDBOOK << Anyone using this :)
#1226 [07:51] <INeedHelp> ive heard of it AndrewsPanda but i dnt reallyuse it. Whatdoes it do and i may be able to help
#1227 [07:52] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry nope AndrewsPanda
#1228 [07:52] <INeedHelp> AndrewsPanda Whats the main use (to refresh my memory)
#1229 [07:52] <AndrewsPanda> i just need someones config so i can use their permissions and alter them for myself.. i dont want to type out the permissins
#1230 [07:52] <AndrewsPanda> wait
#1231 [07:52] <AndrewsPanda> yes thats right
#1232 [07:55] * |Kiichan|Schala| [|Kiichan|Schala|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1233 [07:56] <INeedHelp> Ights so Grim_Reaper I cant update em (I cnt write on C: for some weird reason) O.o
#1234 [07:56] <Grim_Reaper> Do you have enough space o.o?
#1235 [07:58] <INeedHelp> is 366 billion bytes ok? ;)
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#1237 [07:58] <Grim_Reaper> Errr.....
#1238 [07:58] <Grim_Reaper> Yes :3
#1239 [07:58] <INeedHelp> lol 341 gigs xD
#1240 [07:59] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah that would have been easier than hurting mah brain :p
#1241 [07:59] <INeedHelp> And when i try to copy the file to the C: file, it says its either write protected or full sooooo yeahhh....
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#1243 [07:59] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm
#1244 [07:59] <Grim_Reaper> Not too sure about that
#1245 [08:00] <INeedHelp> Should i try to get admin control? lol
#1246 [08:00] <Grim_Reaper> Try googling the error and windows operating system that you're using
#1247 [08:00] <Grim_Reaper> Wait aren't you administrator/
#1248 [08:00] <jonzey1234> hey im back, ive tried putting IE onto offline mode and it changed nothing lol
#1249 [08:00] <INeedHelp> xD whooooppss forgot to menton ;)
#1250 [08:00] <INeedHelp> what r u trying jonzey
#1251 [08:00] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah thats probably why lol
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#1253 [08:00] <Grim_Reaper> jonzey1234 make sure offline mode is turned off
#1254 [08:01] <jonzey1234> oh, it was already off :P
#1255 [08:01] <INeedHelp> i'll c if i can get those rights
#1256 [08:01] <jonzey1234> and i keep getting the error 'Cannot connect to minecraft.net' when trying to log into the launcher
#1257 [08:01] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh oky jonzey1234
#1258 [08:01] <Grim_Reaper> See if the site loads now
#1259 [08:01] <Grim_Reaper> Oh oky
#1260 [08:02] <Grim_Reaper> Ok errm. Try this
#1261 [08:02] <Grim_Reaper> Press windows + r. (should open the "run" window. Type "cmd" without "" and press enter
#1262 [08:02] <Grim_Reaper> Should bring up the command prompt console
#1263 [08:02] <jonzey1234> kk
#1264 [08:02] <jonzey1234> got that
#1265 [08:02] <Grim_Reaper> In it type "ping minecraft.net" without "" and press enter
#1266 [08:02] <Grim_Reaper> See if it gives you a reply
#1267 [08:03] <jonzey1234> request timed out?
#1268 [08:03] <INeedHelp> Grim_Reaper the display driver has been good
#1269 [08:03] <Grim_Reaper> Request timed out
#1270 [08:03] <Grim_Reaper> Ok so it's a problem for you
#1271 [08:03] <Grim_Reaper> Lemme test something quick
#1272 [08:03] <Grim_Reaper> Also if you're up to date INeedHelp
#1273 [08:04] <Grim_Reaper> Last thing I can suggest is press windows key + r
#1274 [08:04] <Grim_Reaper> in the run window type "%appdata" without ""
#1275 [08:04] <Grim_Reaper> Press enter
#1276 [08:04] <Grim_Reaper> Look for a folder called .minecraft
#1277 [08:04] <INeedHelp> delete .minecraft?
#1278 [08:04] <INeedHelp> tryed many times
#1279 [08:04] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh =\
#1280 [08:04] <INeedHelp> it redownloads the .minecraft and bin folder and then STOPS
#1281 [08:04] <Grim_Reaper> How odd =\
#1282 [08:05] <Grim_Reaper> jonzey1234 do you still have command prompt open?
#1283 [08:05] <Grim_Reaper> If not open it again.
#1284 [08:05] <jonzey1234> yeah i still got it
#1285 [08:05] <Grim_Reaper> And try type this. ipconfig /flushdns
#1286 [08:05] <INeedHelp> Yes.. :/ i got to go. May get on here again in a while
#1287 [08:05] <INeedHelp> cya
#1288 [08:05] <Grim_Reaper> See you INeedHelp. Hope you get your issue fixed soon
#1289 [08:05] <INeedHelp> (It hasnt worked for a WHILE now btw)
#1290 [08:06] <Grim_Reaper> ;-;
#1291 [08:06] <jonzey1234> successfully flushed the dns resolver cache :o
#1292 [08:06] <INeedHelp> Also if you have a skype/steam add me- Youroc129
#1293 [08:06] <Grim_Reaper> Ok try visit the site now
#1294 [08:06] <INeedHelp> Yourock129
#1295 [08:06] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#1296 [08:06] <INeedHelp> by
#1297 [08:06] <Grim_Reaper> INeedHelp just come back when you can and we'll try help you more
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#1299 [08:06] <Grim_Reaper> Bye :3
#1300 [08:07] <jonzey1234> i can get onto the minecraft website, its just logging into the launcher i cant get to work lol
#1301 [08:07] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah try using the launcher now :p
#1302 [08:07] <jonzey1234> kk xD
#1303 [08:07] <jonzey1234> nope, same error still :/
#1304 [08:08] <Grim_Reaper> What does it say exactly. Like 404 or?
#1305 [08:08] <WoM-Guest> Hi people
#1306 [08:08] <Grim_Reaper> Hello WoM-Guest
#1307 [08:08] <Grim_Reaper> Whats up
#1308 [08:08] <Sardonicus> I'm looking for a Baldur's Gate 2 Character Editor/Generator, where can I find that?
#1309 [08:08] <Grim_Reaper> No idea..
#1310 [08:08] <jonzey1234> just in red text where you type in username/pass it says 'Cannot connect to minecraft.net'
#1311 [08:08] <WoM-Guest> I need some help with circuits and portcullis
#1312 [08:08] <Grim_Reaper> Oh so it's logging in thats a problem?
#1313 [08:09] <jonzey1234> gives me an option to try again / play offline, but play offline does nothing
#1314 [08:09] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Sardonicus: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Baldur's+Gate+2+character+editor
#1315 [08:09] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm.
#1316 [08:09] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried restarting your internet / modem/router?
#1317 [08:09] <jonzey1234> i bought the game / downloaded the installer yest and havnt managed to play yet :P
#1318 [08:09] <Grim_Reaper> Not sure if that'll help. I can login fine to mc.net
#1319 [08:09] <jonzey1234> yeah, i have done
#1320 [08:10] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm x-x
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#1322 [08:10] <Grim_Reaper> Gimmie a sec
#1323 [08:10] <jonzey1234> kk ^^
#1324 [08:10] <Chris> o/
#1325 [08:10] <Grim_Reaper> Lemme see if I can find some other solutions
#1326 [08:10] <Grim_Reaper> Hey Chris <3
#1327 [08:10] <Sardonicus> I don't find anything when googling...
#1328 [08:10] <Chris> <3
#1329 [08:11] <Sardonicus> well I don't have the game yet also lol
#1330 [08:11] <Chris> wait, wut
#1331 [08:11] <Chris> what're you trying to fix?
#1332 [08:12] <Grim_Reaper> jonzey1234 doubt it. But if your date and time correct?
#1333 [08:12] <Chris> Sardonicus, what's the issue
#1334 [08:12] <Grim_Reaper> but is*
#1335 [08:12] <jonzey1234> yeah it is :P
#1336 [08:12] <Grim_Reaper> Lol ok errm lets see what else
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#1338 [08:13] <Sardonicus> well I just wanna generate characters without having the game
#1339 [08:13] <Chris> meaning?
#1340 [08:13] <Chris> try using the demo
#1341 [08:13] <Chris> ?? demo
#1342 [08:13] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#1343 [08:13] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#1344 [08:13] <WoM-Guest> Can I get some help with an in game prob
#1345 [08:13] <Chris> mmhm
#1346 [08:14] <Grim_Reaper> jonzey1234 have you tried turning off your firewall?
#1347 [08:15] <jonzey1234> i tried turning avasts web shield off if thats the same thing :P
#1348 [08:15] <Grim_Reaper> Naa keep your webshield on lol
#1349 [08:15] <jonzey1234> sorry if im coming across as a bit thick lmao
#1350 [08:15] <Grim_Reaper> By firewall I mean the built in one
#1351 [08:15] <Grim_Reaper> Also naa you're not coming across as thick
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#1353 [08:15] <Grim_Reaper> Coming across as thick is somebody asking me what is the windows key..
#1354 [08:15] <jonzey1234> xD
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#1356 [08:16] <jonzey1234> im honestly not sure if i have a firewall installed O.o
#1357 [08:16] <Grim_Reaper> What system are you running? windows?
#1358 [08:16] <jonzey1234> im now wondering why i dont have one /facepalm
#1359 [08:16] <jonzey1234> yeah, xp if that helps
#1360 [08:16] <Grim_Reaper> Ok go to Start > Control Panel > Windows firewall
#1361 [08:16] <Grim_Reaper> See if thats turned on
#1362 [08:18] <jonzey1234> yeah thats on, shall i turn it off and try to log onto the launcher?
#1363 [08:18] <Grim_Reaper> yeah try that
#1364 [08:18] <Grim_Reaper> If it still doesn't work. Make sure to turn it back on
#1365 [08:18] <jonzey1234> kk ^^
#1366 [08:19] <|Kiichan|Schala|> incorrect system time and windows usernames with ! break login too
#1367 [08:19] <jonzey1234> no luck :/
#1368 [08:19] <Grim_Reaper> Oky dokey
#1369 [08:19] <Grim_Reaper> Oh yeah that too jonzey1234. Any symbols in your username = bad
#1370 [08:20] <jonzey1234> my username is only letters and numbers :/
#1371 [08:20] <Grim_Reaper> K
#1372 [08:20] <Grim_Reaper> Try this
#1373 [08:20] <Grim_Reaper> www.sendspace.com/file/qoszka
#1374 [08:20] <Grim_Reaper> This is my launcher
#1375 [08:20] <Grim_Reaper> Doubt your launcher is messed up
#1376 [08:20] <Grim_Reaper> Wait rather use this link
#1377 [08:20] <Grim_Reaper> http://fs10n5.sendspace.com/dl/ad22f33afb2efed93aff1e951ac31148/4e9ec0950f0ccc95/qoszka/Jon.zip
#1378 [08:20] <Grim_Reaper> Extract that zip. Scan if you like :3
#1379 [08:21] <Grim_Reaper> And see if that launcher helps
#1380 [08:21] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Grim_Reaper: we dont exactly like giving out launchers from anywhere besides www.minecraft.net
#1381 [08:21] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah |Kiichan| sorry. Im running out of ideas so yeah =\
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#1383 [08:21] <Chris> what's the error
#1384 [08:21] <|Kiichan|Schala|> just have him redownload the original
#1385 [08:21] <Chris> can't connect to mc.net?
#1386 [08:22] <jonzey1234> ive done that, twice
#1387 [08:22] <Chris> ??< ping
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#1389 [08:22] <Grim_Reaper> He cant login through the launcher
#1390 [08:22] <Grim_Reaper> it just says cant access minecraft.net
#1391 [08:22] <Grim_Reaper> When he pings it via command prompt
#1392 [08:22] <Grim_Reaper> Request timeout
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#1394 [08:22] <Chris> jonzey, go to https://login.minecraft.net and tell me what you see
#1395 [08:22] <Grim_Reaper> But he can visit it in his web browser (firefox / xp)
#1396 [08:22] <jonzey1234> it said something about sending 4 packets, and losing 4 packets O.o
#1397 [08:23] <Chris> losing 4?
#1398 [08:23] <jonzey1234> bad login O.o
#1399 [08:23] <WoM-Guest> Does anyone know anything about redstone repeaters and circiutry??? Any help would be much appreciated
#1400 [08:23] <|Kiichan|Schala|> WoM-Guest: i know redstone, whats the question?
#1401 [08:24] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ?? dont/pm
#1402 [08:24] <VoxelHead> dont/pm: We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1403 [08:24] <jonzey1234> when i was on the command prompt and put in what grim reaper asked me to it came up with, request timeout then something about sending 4 packets none being received and losing 4 packets :S
#1404 [08:25] <|Kiichan|Schala|> WoM-Guest: now.. what kind of gate? im asuming pistons are in use?
#1405 [08:25] <Chris> oh...
#1406 [08:25] <Chris> jonzey, are you on that computer right now
#1407 [08:25] <jonzey1234> yeah
#1408 [08:25] <Chris> hmm...
#1409 [08:25] <Chris> try pinging 50.16.203.217
#1410 [08:25] <WoM-Guest> yeah im using sticky and normal pistons
#1411 [08:26] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: what does http://login.minecraft.net say to you?
#1412 [08:26] <jonzey1234> type in what? just - ping 50.16.203.217?
#1413 [08:26] <Chris> yep
#1414 [08:26] <jonzey1234> bad login
#1415 [08:26] <Chris> Kiichan, its https
#1416 [08:26] <|Kiichan|Schala|> still said badlogin :P
#1417 [08:26] <|Kiichan|Schala|> andok login isnt blocked.
#1418 [08:26] <Chris> bad login is what you want to see xD
#1419 [08:27] <jonzey1234> oh, fair enough lol
#1420 [08:27] <|Kiichan|Schala|> WoM-Guest: is it timing you have an issue with or just wiring up the system?
#1421 [08:27] <WoM-Guest> i have followed tutorials step by step and still things dont work as in the tut
#1422 [08:27] <jonzey1234> and ive done that ping chris
#1423 [08:27] <Chris> brb
#1424 [08:27] * Sardonicus slaps Chris with his iron dumbbell
#1424 [08:27] <jonzey1234> that worked find by the looks of it
#1425 [08:27] <Chris> oi
#1426 [08:27] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#1427 [08:27] <|Kiichan|Schala|> WoM-Guest: link to tut please.
#1428 [08:27] <WoM-Guest> both timing and wiring
#1429 [08:28] <jonzey1234> sent 4 recieved 4 ecyt
#1430 [08:28] <jonzey1234> *ect
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#1432 [08:28] <Grim_Reaper> Ok so dns is the issue by the sound of it
#1433 [08:28] <WoM-Guest> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiXB_rQQYpo
#1434 [08:28] <Grim_Reaper> Or the https?
#1435 [08:29] <jonzey1234> i have no clue. whatsoever. this is way beyond my capabilities :P
#1436 [08:30] <Grim_Reaper> Im just about sore in the head trying to figure out whats needed to fix the issue x-x
#1437 [08:30] <|Kiichan|Schala|> oh.. its just a double-pusher on top and bottom. with sand/gravel to drop out when 'open'
#1438 [08:30] * Chris slaps Sardonicus around a bit with a slimy trout
#1438 [08:31] <WoM-Guest> thats the one Kiichan
#1439 [08:31] <jonzey1234> just incase it matters, i just checked my paypal and bank, the minecraft payment has been completed in paypal but not showed up on my bank yet :/
#1440 [08:32] <Grim_Reaper> !paid jonzey1234
#1441 [08:32] <Chris> what's your ign?
#1442 [08:32] <Grim_Reaper> Whats your minecraft username
#1443 [08:32] <jonzey1234> O.o
#1444 [08:32] <jonzey1234> Aubot got mad
#1445 [08:32] * Chris loves AuBot but not as much as Grim_Reaper
#1445 [08:32] <Chris> hahahah
#1446 [08:32] <jonzey1234> my username is jonzey2992
#1447 [08:33] <Chris> !paid jonzey2992
#1448 [08:33] <Chris> you're on windows, right?
#1449 [08:33] <jonzey1234> yeah
#1450 [08:33] <Chris> when windows firewall asked, did you allow java?
#1451 [08:34] <jonzey1234> it didnt ask, as far as i can remember
#1452 [08:34] <Chris> hmm...
#1453 [08:34] <Chris> Open Control panel and find the security center
#1454 [08:34] <jonzey1234> got that
#1455 [08:34] <Chris> got a firewall enabled?
#1456 [08:35] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#1457 [08:35] * Grim_Reaper hugs Chris <3
#1457 [08:35] <Chris> see the aubot thing?
#1458 [08:35] <Chris> <3
#1459 [08:35] <jonzey1234> yeah, ive already turned that off and tried
#1460 [08:35] <|Kiichan|Schala|> WoM-Guest: this on a server or singleplayer?
#1461 [08:35] <jonzey1234> under grim reapers suggestion ^^
#1462 [08:35] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#1463 [08:35] <Grim_Reaper> brb
#1464 [08:35] <WoM-Guest> Single player
#1465 [08:36] <Chris> brb
#1466 [08:36] <Sinistrahd> So with the new NPC villages... do those buildings count as safe places as long as they're well lit?
#1467 [08:37] <|Kiichan|Schala|> WoM-Guest: what doesnt work exactly? what happens when you trigger it?
#1468 [08:37] <Sinistrahd> I haven't played since 1.7.4 so I just created a single player world to see what endermen are like
#1469 [08:38] <WoM-Guest> well the most common prob is the normal piston on the bottom sticky will be pushed by the sticky and wont retract with the sticky
#1470 [08:39] <|Kiichan|Schala|> WoM-Guest: did you set the delays to max for powering the stickys?
#1471 [08:39] <WoM-Guest> yeah 3 clicks for the sticky and 2 clicks for the normal
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#1473 [08:40] <WoM-Guest> or 2 clicks for the normal
#1474 [08:40] <|Kiichan|Schala|> dont delay the normals.
#1475 [08:40] <|Kiichan|Schala|> power them directly by the wire
#1476 [08:40] <WoM-Guest> ok will try that
#1477 [08:41] <|Kiichan|Schala|> erm.. wait...
#1478 [08:41] <WoM-Guest> ok
#1479 [08:41] <jonzey1234> anyone got any more ideas for me to try? :P
#1480 [08:41] <|Kiichan|Schala|> they doing it differently than i would
#1481 [08:42] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ok on the bottom pistons, stickys get max delay, regulars get minimal
#1482 [08:43] <WoM-Guest> so 1 click for the normal
#1483 [08:43] <|Kiichan|Schala|> minimal. 1st pos.
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#1485 [08:44] <WoM-Guest> so dont change the normal layer after laying them
#1486 [08:44] <jeffrey> Hi I need help, i purchased minecraft but i dont get a mail
#1487 [08:45] <|Kiichan|Schala|> WoM-Guest: correct.
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#1490 [08:45] <WoM-Guest> ok how do i wire it so it closes automatically
#1491 [08:46] <|Kiichan|Schala|> WoM-Guest: the top stickies get directly powered by the wire. regulars gets a delay of 3.
#1492 [08:46] <|Kiichan|Schala|> WoM-Guest: the delay gets set by that giant line of repeaters
#1493 [08:48] <WoM-Guest> ok thanx for the help......i will give that a try and let you know if/when it fails again lol
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#1495 [08:50] <jonzey1234> everyone given up on me? D:
#1496 [08:51] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: the cant connect thing?
#1497 [08:51] <libraryaddict> !isup
#1498 [08:51] <jonzey1234> yeah lol
#1499 [08:51] <libraryaddict> !isdown
#1500 [08:51] <GreyBot> libraryaddict: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1501 [08:51] <jeffrey> Hi I need help, i purchased minecraft but i dont get a mail
#1502 [08:52] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jeffrey: how long ago? and what is your mc username?
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#1504 [08:52] <libraryaddict> Waa
#1505 [08:52] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: try making a new windows user and running minecraft there to see if it works.
#1506 [08:52] <jeffrey> a friend want to buy it for me, it was 45 min ago
#1507 [08:52] <libraryaddict> It wont let me login :(
#1508 [08:52] <jonzey1234> sign in as guest?
#1509 [08:52] <jonzey1234> will that do?
#1510 [08:52] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jeffrey: be patient then. sometimes it takes a few hours
#1511 [08:53] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: guest shoudl be fine
#1512 [08:54] <jeffrey> ok ty
#1513 [08:57] <libraryaddict> :\
#1514 [08:57] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ok.. 9am.. time to get food
#1515 [08:57] <libraryaddict> When I got too many failed logins
#1516 [08:57] <libraryaddict> How long till I can login?
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#1518 [08:57] <|Kiichan|Schala|> libraryaddict: i think its 5 minutes
#1519 [08:57] <libraryaddict> kk thx
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#1521 [09:02] <jonzey12345> anyone still here? lol
#1522 [09:02] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: did it work on guest?
#1523 [09:02] <jonzey12345> i got a lil further
#1524 [09:03] <jonzey12345> it actually logged in and showed a downloading screen
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#1526 [09:03] <jonzey12345> but then when it had finished downloading screen went black closed down and a notepad file appeared on my desktop
#1527 [09:04] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: hs_err_pid?
#1528 [09:05] <jonzey12345> yeah
#1529 [09:05] <FinZeroX> Guys
#1530 [09:05] <FinZeroX> Hai
#1531 [09:05] <FinZeroX> Anyone familiar with Flans Plane Mod 16 with Bukkit?
#1532 [09:05] <jonzey12345> its hs_err_pid then some numbers
#1533 [09:05] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: i'd ask you to pastebin it... but its usualy video drivers. so try updating the video drivers
#1534 [09:06] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ??> FinZeroX mods
#1535 [09:06] <VoxelHead> FinZeroX: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1536 [09:06] <VoxelHead> FinZeroX: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1537 [09:06] <FinZeroX> Oh thanks
#1538 [09:06] <jonzey12345> i tried to update video drivers yest and it said they were up to date :S
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#1540 [09:07] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :/
#1541 [09:08] <jeffrey> a Question: A friend wanted to buy minecraft, but there was a message that he cant buy it, so he clicked ok and than there was another message that is was succesfull so does he have it now or not?
#1542 [09:08] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: ok since it logs in as guest, something on your windows user is blocking it
#1543 [09:09] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jeffrey: the second message was full of lies.
#1544 [09:09] <jonzey12345> right, that makes sense :P
#1545 [09:09] <jeffrey> ah ok ty
#1546 [09:10] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: your windows username has no special characters in it, right?
#1547 [09:10] <jonzey12345> my windows login?
#1548 [09:10] <AndrewsPanda> Anyone here using Pex?
#1549 [09:10] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: yes.
#1550 [09:10] <jonzey12345> i think so its my gf's
#1551 [09:10] <jonzey12345> let me get off guest and go back to the main user login
#1552 [09:10] <jonzey12345> back in a min
#1553 [09:11] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: the thing here is java dislikes people with !s in their windows username.
#1554 [09:11] <jonzey1234> okay im back
#1555 [09:12] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: the thing here is java dislikes people with !s in their windows username.
#1556 [09:12] <jonzey1234> yeah she has a ! at the end of her name >.<
#1557 [09:12] <|Kiichan|Schala|> thats where login breaks
#1558 [09:12] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ??> jonzey1234 !
#1559 [09:12] <VoxelHead> jonzey1234: (!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#1560 [09:12] <VoxelHead> jonzey1234: (!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#1561 [09:12] <jonzey1234> can i not just edit the username and remove the !?
#1562 [09:13] <|Kiichan|Schala|> nope. that just changes the displayed name, not the one windows uses internally
#1563 [09:13] <jonzey1234> riight
#1564 [09:13] <jonzey1234> so i am to use the link voxel posted?
#1565 [09:13] <|Kiichan|Schala|> yup. it bypasses the problem by making minecraft use a different install location
#1566 [09:14] <jonzey1234> right ^^
#1567 [09:14] <jonzey1234> its loaded!
#1568 [09:14] <jonzey1234> downloading packets now apparently
#1569 [09:14] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :3
#1570 [09:14] <jonzey1234> *packages
#1571 [09:16] <jonzey1234> okay, it downloaded packages
#1572 [09:16] <jonzey1234> then the screen went blank and it closed down
#1573 [09:17] <jonzey1234> now im trying to open it again and it just closes right away after logging in
#1574 [09:17] <|Kiichan|Schala|> you done a java reinstall yet?
#1575 [09:17] <jonzey1234> i updated, but did not delete / reinstall
#1576 [09:18] <|Kiichan|Schala|> hmm... give it a try.
#1577 [09:18] <jonzey1234> okay, which java do i need?
#1578 [09:18] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :j
#1579 [09:18] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#1580 [09:19] <jonzey1234> okay, do i need to completely remove? from add/remove programmes?
#1581 [09:19] <|Kiichan|Schala|> yes. so it clears anything that might have borked.
#1582 [09:20] <jonzey1234> okay
#1583 [09:21] <|Kiichan|Schala|> and im really going to get food now :P brb
#1584 [09:21] <jonzey1234> okay ^^
#1585 [09:21] <jonzey1234> enjoy! :P
#1586 [09:23] <Sinistrahd> Kiichan - got a couple lines for you in the breakroom
#1587 [09:24] <Sinistrahd> doh
#1588 [09:24] <Sinistrahd> and by lines I mean text, not coke
#1589 [09:24] <Sinistrahd> :P
#1590 [09:25] <jonzey1234> i think they already left!
#1591 [09:25] <Sinistrahd> yeah he/she did
#1592 [09:26] <Sinistrahd> I think -chan as a suffix is feminine in Japanese, and the surname Schala is a female character from Chrono Trigger, so probably a she
#1593 [09:27] <jonzey1234> fair enough :P
#1594 [09:28] <jonzey1234> how do i know which java do download?
#1595 [09:28] <jonzey1234> *to
#1596 [09:28] <jonzey1234> windows x86 kernal, offline, online, windows x64 :S
#1597 [09:30] <Sinistrahd> well which windows version do you have?
#1598 [09:30] <Sinistrahd> you can find out by holding your windows key and pressing the pause|break key
#1599 [09:31] <Sinistrahd> you'll see your windows edition at the top, and system type middle to bottom
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#1601 [09:38] * Sinistrahd needs to run - once you figure out if your windows is 32 or 64 bit, jonzey1234, then choose the correct version: x86 is for 32 bit, x64 for 64 bit. think x86 offline is probably the one to nab of those 3, since it doesn't need to go online to grab files after you dl it. But maybe someone else will confirm that.
#1601 [09:39] <almostroot> ??> jonzey1234 getjava
#1602 [09:39] <VoxelHead> jonzey1234: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
#1603 [09:39] <Sinistrahd> almostroot is 6_29 ok then? Kiichan recommended 6_27 to him
#1604 [09:39] <jonzey1234> sorry about that i nipped to the toilet
#1605 [09:40] <almostroot> Sinistrahd: Factoid is out of date
#1606 [09:40] <Sinistrahd> ah ok
#1607 [09:40] <jonzey1234> so im to download ver 6 update 29?
#1608 [09:41] <Sinistrahd> jonzey1234 yep
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#1610 [09:42] <jonzey1234> do i need to restart after uninstalling, before reinstalling?
#1611 [09:42] <almostroot> :j
#1612 [09:42] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#1613 [09:43] <almostroot> jonzey1234: It could help after uninstalling all versions of Java on your system. Someonetimes browsers will hold on to a version until they are closed.
#1614 [09:43] <jonzey1234> okay, ill restart and come back :P
#1615 [09:44] <almostroot> ;hug
#1616 [09:44] * WugBot hugs
#1616 [09:44] <almostroot> ;hug me
#1617 [09:44] * WugBot hugs me
#1617 [09:45] * guest-0-68593 [guest-0-68593@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1618 [09:46] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ;hug almostroot with nuclear arms
#1619 [09:46] * WugBot hugs almostroot with nuclear arms
#1619 [09:46] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :P
#1620 [09:47] <WoM-Guest> Big thanx to Kiichan....it works finally
#1621 [09:47] <almostroot> You can;t hug your children with nuclear arms!!!
#1622 [09:48] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :P
#1623 [09:49] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :3
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#1625 [09:52] <jonzey1234> anyone still here? :P
#1626 [09:52] * |Kiichan|Schala| tries speaking through a sandwich and fails
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#1627 [09:53] <jonzey1234> ill let you finish your lunch xd
#1628 [09:53] <jonzey1234> xD
#1629 [09:54] <|Kiichan|Schala|> breakfast actually :P
#1630 [09:54] <jonzey1234> o.o, youre usa based?
#1631 [09:54] <kermit> gives there a german room?
#1632 [09:55] <|Kiichan|Schala|> im american. were all volunteers from everywhere :P
#1633 [09:55] <jonzey1234> you dont get paid for this? O.O
#1634 [09:55] <|Kiichan|Schala|> nope :P
#1635 [09:55] <jonzey1234> well thanks for taking time out of your day to help people like me :P
#1636 [09:56] <|Kiichan|Schala|> no prob :D
#1637 [09:56] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: did the java reinstall help?
#1638 [09:56] <jonzey1234> nope lol
#1639 [09:57] <jonzey1234> just when i log into the launcher now the screen goes blank then vanishes
#1640 [09:58] <|Kiichan|Schala|> the window closes or just goes black?
#1641 [09:58] <jonzey1234> goes black then closes :P
#1642 [09:58] <Sinistrahd> Kiichan when you're free or multitasking less, check the breakroom
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#1644 [10:01] * |Kiichan|Schala| forgets where it puts the exe :/
#1644 [10:01] * guest-655596-64147 [guest-655596-64147@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1645 [10:01] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ??< !
#1646 [10:01] <guest-655596-64147> Helllo!, Where do I put the minecraft_server.jar in? in my appdata .minecraft/bin or in my server location?
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#1648 [10:02] <|Kiichan|Schala|> guest-655596-64147: you put it where you want the server files to be used/made
#1649 [10:02] * mib_hyq0k6 [mib_hyq0k6@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1650 [10:02] <guest-655596-64147> Helllo!, Where do I put the minecraft_server.jar in? in my appdata .minecraft/bin or in my server location?
#1651 [10:04] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\minecraft\" go there and see if theres an hs_err_pid
#1652 [10:04] <guest-655596-64147> Nope.
#1653 [10:05] <|Kiichan|Schala|> guest-655596-64147: you are not jonzey1234.
#1654 [10:05] <guest-655596-64147> Oh sorry :-(
#1655 [10:05] <guest-655596-64147> :p
#1656 [10:05] <|Kiichan|Schala|> also i answered that already. scroll up.
#1657 [10:06] <jonzey1234> yeah, i have 4 hs err pid's
#1658 [10:06] <rymate1234> yo
#1659 [10:07] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: post one of them to pastebin.com and give us link
#1660 [10:07] <jonzey1234> okay
#1661 [10:07] <rymate1234> I heard yo like yoyos, so I put a yoyo in yo yo yo so yo can yoyo while yo yoyo
#1662 [10:07] <tyteen4a03> *in yo yoyo?
#1663 [10:08] <rymate1234> yo
#1664 [10:08] <rymate1234> bai
#1665 [10:08] * rymate1234 has to go for a bit
#1665 [10:08] <jonzey1234> i think i did it :P http://pastebin.com/N0a7j9YG
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#1667 [10:12] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: um... java 7. uninstall it and install 6 update 27
#1668 [10:12] <jonzey1234> i just got told by someone else to install the latest version :S
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#1670 [10:13] <|Kiichan|Schala|> 'latest version' means recomended, not beta version
#1671 [10:14] <|Kiichan|Schala|> www.java.com
#1672 [10:14] <|Kiichan|Schala|> oops
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#1674 [10:15] <almostroot> jonzey1234: I said 6 update 29.
#1675 [10:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> o.o; woah... skipped 29
#1676 [10:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> erm 28\
#1677 [10:16] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ok i suck at talking on phone and ircing at tsame time :P
#1678 [10:16] <almostroot> I don;t want to know what ircing is.
#1679 [10:17] <|Kiichan|Schala|> IRCing
#1680 [10:17] <|Kiichan|Schala|> as in this
#1681 [10:18] <|Kiichan|Schala|> you perv >:P
#1682 [10:18] <jonzey1234> so what do i need to do? x.x
#1683 [10:18] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: uninstal java7 and install java6u29
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#1685 [10:22] <SwiftHands> hello
#1686 [10:23] <SwiftHands> can someone assist me with a problem i have?
#1687 [10:23] <|Kiichan|Schala|> SwiftHands: probably. describe in detail please :D
#1688 [10:24] <SwiftHands> Thank you!,
#1689 [10:24] <SwiftHands> when i try to login to servers in MC, it pass the login phase and get stuck on the downloading terrain phase
#1690 [10:24] <SwiftHands> then later it follows with a timed out error
#1691 [10:24] <|Kiichan|Schala|> SwiftHands: ALL servers, or just one or three?
#1692 [10:24] <SwiftHands> it works fine on single player, and its like that for EVERY multiplayer server i tried, so i assume its a local client problem, worked just fine two days ago
#1693 [10:24] <SwiftHands> good question
#1694 [10:24] <SwiftHands> i tried 4
#1695 [10:25] <jonzey1234> on the java website it says i currently have ver 6 update 29 :S
#1696 [10:26] <jonzey1234> thats the one i downloaded half an hour ago
#1697 [10:26] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ?? smp/server/specific
#1698 [10:26] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :/
#1699 [10:26] <SwiftHands> smp
#1700 [10:26] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ?? smp/servers/specific
#1701 [10:26] <VoxelHead> smp/servers/specific: Kealper would suggest smp.shadow-craft.net. Enjoy!
#1702 [10:26] <|Kiichan|Schala|> SwiftHands: try that one
#1703 [10:27] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: open the control pannel and doubleclick java
#1704 [10:27] <jonzey1234> on add/remove programmes?
#1705 [10:27] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#1706 [10:27] <|Kiichan|Schala|> no in the control pannel. it should be near add/remove
#1707 [10:28] <SwiftHands> Kiichan, when you said try that one, are you suppose to give me an IP to try? or i'm missing something
#1708 [10:28] <jonzey1234> found it, sorry i was in catagory view :P
#1709 [10:28] <|Kiichan|Schala|> SwiftHands: [10:26] <@VoxelHead> smp/servers/specific: Kealper would suggest smp.shadow-craft.net. Enjoy!
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#1711 [10:29] <SwiftHands> yep this one works!
#1712 [10:29] <jonzey1234> hey grim reaper, nice to see you again :P
#1713 [10:29] <Grim_Reaper> Same to you jonzey1234 ^^
#1714 [10:29] <|Kiichan|Schala|> SwiftHands: if that one has the same problem its your internet or network... ok that works... means its just the servers
#1715 [10:30] <SwiftHands> any idea of something in common? bukkit maybe?
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#1717 [10:30] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: Java tab, click view. and tell me how many lines there are
#1718 [10:30] <jonzey1234> 1 :S
#1719 [10:30] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: ok run minecraft again.
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#1721 [10:31] <jonzey1234> same thing happened, minecraft just shut down after login
#1722 [10:32] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: paste the newest hs_err_pid to pastebin and give us link?
#1723 [10:32] <jonzey1234> kk
#1724 [10:33] <jonzey1234> http://pastebin.com/3Lr9pRQ1
#1725 [10:35] * Kealper rawrs
#1725 [10:35] <jonzey1234> who would have thought getting on minecraft would be so complicated!! XD
#1726 [10:36] <|Kiichan|Schala|> AAhh!! Run!! its Kealzilla!!!
#1727 [10:36] <Kealper> jonzey1234: Ubuntu?
#1728 [10:36] <|Kiichan|Schala|> win xp. black screen then closes
#1729 [10:36] <jonzey1234> ubuntu? O.o
#1730 [10:36] <Kealper> really?
#1731 [10:36] <|Kiichan|Schala|> and you rawred right under his most recent hs_err_pid
#1732 [10:36] * Kealper scrolls down on that error report
#1732 [10:36] <Kealper> aha!
#1733 [10:36] <jonzey1234> i can paste again if needed
#1734 [10:36] <Kealper> nah, i got it
#1735 [10:37] <jonzey1234> kk ^^
#1736 [10:37] <SwiftHands> so anyone else have any idea what the problem could be with the majority of the SMP servers that wont let me login? other people play just fine on them
#1737 [10:37] <Kealper> first of all....that error is usually something you'd find in Ubuntu if someone doesn't have the correct graphics drivers...BUT....
#1738 [10:37] <Kealper> it just so happens that i'm pretty sure i know your error, jonzey1234
#1739 [10:37] <jonzey1234> o.o
#1740 [10:38] <Kealper> jonzey1234: ok so...you will need to make a new windows user profile
#1741 [10:38] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Kealper: yeah. been having him use the !fix
#1742 [10:38] * Kealper still doesn't trust that fix
#1742 [10:38] <tyteen4a03> !fix
#1743 [10:39] <tyteen4a03> :<
#1744 [10:39] <Kealper> jonzey1234: could you make a new windows profile just to test?
#1745 [10:39] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ??>> tyteen4a03 !
#1746 [10:39] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :P
#1747 [10:39] <jonzey1234> i tried with a guest profile and the same prob was happenining
#1748 [10:39] <Kealper> oh? hmm
#1749 [10:39] <tyteen4a03> oh, ! fix
#1750 [10:39] <tyteen4a03> with a space in it
#1751 [10:39] <tyteen4a03> :<
#1752 [10:39] <|Kiichan|Schala|> lol
#1753 [10:39] <Kealper> it seems you've got a compound error then...
#1754 [10:39] <Kealper> |Kiichan|Schala|: asked him about updating graphics drivers already?
#1755 [10:40] <|Kiichan|Schala|> i think someone else did..
#1756 [10:40] <SwiftHands> any idea guys?
#1757 [10:40] <jonzey1234> i tried updating video drivers yest
#1758 [10:40] <|Kiichan|Schala|> SwiftHands: tried a reboot? its an idea.
#1759 [10:40] <Kealper> SwiftHands: what is it telling you when you try?
#1760 [10:40] <jonzey1234> well, my gf did, she said it came back they were up to date
#1761 [10:41] <SwiftHands> already rebooted, cleared the .minecraft and redownloaded,
#1762 [10:41] <SwiftHands> the server you game me works, but any other major SMP server i played so far doesnt
#1763 [10:41] <Kealper> jonzey1234: for the sake of science, feel like doing it again? lol
#1764 [10:41] <SwiftHands> its just stuck on downloading terrain
#1765 [10:41] <jonzey1234> sure lol
#1766 [10:41] <Kealper> jonzey1234: did you already give a dxdiag report on pastebin earlier?
#1767 [10:42] <jonzey1234> considering idk what dxdiag is, no :P
#1768 [10:42] <|Kiichan|Schala|> :dx
#1769 [10:42] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1770 [10:42] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1771 [10:43] <jonzey1234> saving info now ^^
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#1773 [10:44] <SwiftHands> meow :3
#1774 [10:44] <jonzey1234> my dx diag - http://pastebin.com/8cZUsBiR
#1775 [10:44] <Kealper> eeehh...
#1776 [10:44] <|Kiichan|Schala|> hmm... a sis... :P
#1777 [10:45] <Kealper> SwiftHands: what server did you try that worked? the smp.shadow-craft.net server?
#1778 [10:45] <SwiftHands> yep
#1779 [10:45] <jonzey1234> it came with the pc xD
#1780 [10:46] <Kealper> SwiftHands: and what is one of the addresses to the servers you are having issues with?
#1781 [10:46] <jonzey1234> this is like a 5y/o pc =/
#1782 [10:46] <SwiftHands> giving you the address soon
#1783 [10:47] <Kealper> jonzey1234: well, unfortunately SiS does not have a good track-record with Minecraft..
#1784 [10:47] <SwiftHands> 69.162.85.20:25565
#1785 [10:47] <Kealper> !check 69.162.85.20:25565
#1786 [10:47] <jonzey1234> :/
#1787 [10:47] <Kealper> SwiftHands: server is not running or not set up right, that's why it doesn't work
#1788 [10:47] <SwiftHands> i can see people play in it on live map, are you sure?
#1789 [10:48] <Kealper> jonzey1234: one sec though
#1790 [10:48] <jonzey1234> kk ^^
#1791 [10:48] <|Kiichan|Schala|> SwiftHands: they might be connecting to it from a private-side... like they all on land with server
#1792 [10:48] <Kealper> SwiftHands: are you sure that live map is really live? because AuBot is a program that can connect to Minecraft servers, and it was not able to connect to the one you gave
#1793 [10:49] <SwiftHands> maybe try this ? mc.omgwtfhax.info:25565
#1794 [10:49] <|Kiichan|Schala|> !check mc.omgwtfhax.info
#1795 [10:49] <Kealper> !check smp.shadow-craft.net
#1796 [10:49] <Kealper> ^
#1797 [10:49] <SwiftHands> thats interesting...
#1798 [10:49] <SwiftHands> ill run couple more tests
#1799 [10:50] <Kealper> SwiftHands: if you wanted to test others, you could check it privately with AuBot by typing: /msg AuBot !check <address> where that <address> is the server's ip address or hostname
#1800 [10:51] <SwiftHands> cheers
#1801 [10:51] * Kealper goes back to looking for SiS drivers
#1801 [10:51] <jonzey1234> ty :D
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#1805 [10:52] <SwiftHands> this is what i got : Great news SwiftHands, everything looks fine from here! Server stuffs: 25 out of 100 players currently online, latency to me is about 908ms and the MOTD is Fresh New Map! www.OMGWTFHAX.info
#1806 [10:52] <SwiftHands> :\
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#1808 [10:53] <finnis> Hello. There wasn't supposed to be a release until minecon right? Officially?
#1809 [10:53] <Kealper> finnis: for which? Minecraft 1.9?
#1810 [10:54] <finnis> Kealper: I'm having problems with understanding the procedure actually. Will 1.9 release at minecon and not the full release of minecraft?
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#1813 [10:54] <|Kiichan|Schala|> o.o;
#1814 [10:54] * |Kiichan|Schala| pokes otherself
#1814 [10:55] <Kealper> finnis: from my understanding, once they take the next month to iron out bugs, Beta 1.9 will take on the name Minecraft 1.0 (dropping the beta tag to become the official release) at MineCon
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#1816 [10:55] <Kealper> also
#1817 [10:56] <Kealper> all these disconnects do not bode well
#1818 [10:56] <|Kiichan|Schala|> they mentioned 1.10 for aditional adventure stuff
#1819 [10:56] <Kealper> oh, are they keeping the version number? i'm not 100% on top of these things
#1820 [10:56] <finnis> Yep seems a bit crazy maybe the irc is overloaded
#1821 [10:56] <finnis> What will happen to CB when minecraft releases?
#1822 [10:56] <finnis> CraftBukkit
#1823 [10:56] <finnis> And plugins and such
#1824 [10:56] <|Kiichan|Schala|> it updates :P
#1825 [10:57] <finnis> Will plugins ever be inplemented in vanilla minecraft?
#1826 [10:57] <finnis> I'm a guy with many questions sorry about that hehe
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#1828 [10:58] <|Kiichan|Schala|> finnis: eventually the api will be put out.
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#1831 [10:58] <finnis> I wonder what will happen in the next year, honestly. So much has been happening recently.
#1832 [10:59] <|Kiichan|Schala|> it will probabl help that i hope optimizing the code will mean they are commenting the crap out of it
#1833 [10:59] <finnis> What I've been looking forward to is to have a client download before joining a server. Like some FPS games such as Call of duty 4 and Counterstrike
#1834 [10:59] <finnis> And Garrys mod, etc. Do you know what I mean?
#1835 [10:59] <finnis> That will open up so many doors for plugin developres
#1836 [10:59] <finnis> Developers*
#1837 [10:59] <SwiftHands> another question if i may... most of the times when i connect to servers there is a chunk loading issue, it loads a few chunks around me, and the rest of the world is not loading up, after a minute or so, it gives a java socket error or connection error etc
#1838 [10:59] <SwiftHands> only after several attempts it will load correctly
#1839 [10:59] <|Kiichan|Schala|> finnis: you mean mod-sync?
#1840 [10:59] <Kealper> jonzey1234: http://download.cnet.com/SiS-VGA-driver-3-78-00-zip/3000-2108_4-164001.html give that a shot
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#1842 [11:00] <jonzey1234> ty kealper, ill try that now
#1843 [11:00] <finnis> |Kiichan|Schala|: Well never heard the word but I'm talking about joining a server, and it says "Downloading packages, please hold."
#1844 [11:00] <finnis> Or something like that.
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#1846 [11:01] <finnis> Clientsided mods directly given from the server upon join
#1847 [11:01] <finnis> Got any information about this? :P
#1848 [11:01] <Kealper> finnis: probably not, as that would be a huge security hole
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#1850 [11:02] <finnis> It sure would be. It can destroy more than most people know
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#1852 [11:02] <finnis> Alright I will quit bugging you, thanks for the responses, bye.
#1853 [11:03] <|Kiichan|Schala|> finnis: look up sprout.
#1854 [11:03] <finnis> Yeah but that needs to be downloaded externally
#1855 [11:03] <finnis> Manually*
#1856 [11:03] <jonzey1234> is there anything i need to do with this file once its downloaded? or just run whatever is in it? :S
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#1859 [11:08] <jonzey1234> kealper what am i to do with this file once its downloaded? :/
#1860 [11:08] <Kealper> oh crap, it's one of those ones..
#1861 [11:08] * Kealper thought it was an installer
#1861 [11:09] <Kealper> let me look for an exe version
#1862 [11:09] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ?
#1863 [11:09] <|Kiichan|Schala|> zip?
#1864 [11:09] <jonzey1234> it was a zip yeah
#1865 [11:10] <Kealper> |Kiichan|Schala|: it's just the driver files itself, it doesn't have a pretty installer, i assumed it was just an installer inside the zip file :>
#1866 [11:10] <|Kiichan|Schala|> jonzey1234: open device manager, go to um... *opens*
#1867 [11:10] <jonzey1234> there is a setup.exe inside the folder?
#1868 [11:11] <Kealper> jonzey1234: oh, there is a setup.exe in there? run that
#1869 [11:11] <|Kiichan|Schala|> extract files and run setup :P
#1870 [11:11] <jonzey1234> do i need something like winrar?
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#1872 [11:12] <Kealper> nope, windows supports .zip files by default
#1873 [11:12] <|Kiichan|Schala|> public static void derp(String herp) { }
#1874 [11:12] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Kealper: XP.
#1875 [11:12] <Kealper> |Kiichan|Schala|: unless it's a pirated copy of XP (that has been stripped down) then it has zip support as well
#1876 [11:12] <|Kiichan|Schala|> didnt think it did o.o;
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#1879 [11:13] <jonzey1234> not pirated, it did i just didnt know it did :P
#1880 [11:14] <jonzey1234> i need to restart apparently, brb ^^
#1881 [11:14] <Frog100> Anybody know how I can fix my MC to run on 10.5.8 without it crashing on me? lol
#1882 [11:14] <Frog100> ^mac
#1883 [11:15] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ??> Frog100 mac/10.5.8
#1884 [11:15] <VoxelHead> Frog100: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#1885 [11:15] <VoxelHead> Frog100: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
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#1887 [11:15] <Frog100> Oh, Touche, ill give that a shot
#1888 [11:16] <Frog100> guarenteed i'll find a way to mess it up though
#1889 [11:16] <Frog100> lol
#1890 [11:16] <Lykkepillen> I need to extinguish a forest fire - Any plugins to do so?
#1891 [11:16] <Kealper> Touché*
#1892 [11:16] <Kealper> forgot the grave :P
#1893 [11:17] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Lykkepillen: worldedit or singleplayercommands
#1894 [11:17] <Lykkepillen> worldedit how?
#1895 [11:17] <Morrolan> "/ex <radius>"
#1896 [11:17] <Morrolan> Or select it and use "//replace fire air". ;)
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#1899 [11:18] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Morrolan... summoned by worldedit :P
#1900 [11:18] <Lykkepillen> Thanks!
#1901 [11:19] <Morrolan> You'd wonder what words I've set highlights on, |Kiichan|Schala|. :P
#1902 [11:19] <|Kiichan|Schala|> just so long as one of them isnt 'vore'
#1903 [11:19] <|Kiichan|Schala|> or 'guro' :P
#1904 [11:20] <Morrolan> The fact that I had to google for them pretty much denies that possibility. :)
#1905 [11:20] <|Kiichan|Schala|> lol
#1906 [11:20] <Morrolan> "or by the general process of eating" actually, that's not all too bad.
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#1908 [11:20] <Morrolan> The rest of the definiton, well.
#1909 [11:21] <Lykkepillen> Whats the opposit of /nolag?
#1910 [11:21] <jonzey1234> hey im back, im not sure if i did that wrong or it was just wrong in general
#1911 [11:21] <jonzey1234> but its screwed up my screen xD
#1912 [11:21] <jonzey1234> kealper still here?
#1913 [11:21] <Kealper> jonzey1234: did you restart afterwards?
#1914 [11:21] <Morrolan> Lykkepillen: Uh, if /nolag is an alias for /stoplag then the command to continue would be "/stoplag -c" (or "/nolag -c")
#1915 [11:22] <jonzey1234> kealper yeah it asked me to restart
#1916 [11:22] <jonzey1234> i have 4bit colour scheme now
#1917 [11:22] <jonzey1234> x.x
#1918 [11:22] <Kealper> jonzey1234: hmm...one sec
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#1920 [11:25] <Kealper> jonzey1234: try this then...sorry for the the slurry of driver installs http://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles/Driver/VGA/VGA_SIS_6.14.10.3680_Xpx86.zip?acerid=633645066437254168&Step1=DESKTOP&Step2=ASPIRE&Step3=ASPIRE%20SA80&OS=ALL&LC=en&BC=ACER&SC=PA_7
#1921 [11:25] <jonzey1234> np at all, this is giving me a headache looking at 4bit colour! XD
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#1923 [11:26] <Kealper> there is a spelling error on Acer's website...
#1924 [11:26] <gamakichi> hello i have a problem i buy minecraft but since 2 hours i cant join the game always say the gam that i dosent a premium user
#1925 [11:27] <Kealper> their section for OS-related downloads is labeled "OS's" which is not right
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#1927 [11:27] <jonzey1234> :p
#1928 [11:27] <SwiftHands> hi guys
#1929 [11:27] <Kealper> gamakichi: what method did you use to purchase Minecraft with?
#1930 [11:27] <Kealper> SwiftHands: ello
#1931 [11:28] <SwiftHands> i popped in back to share what was the problem
#1932 [11:28] * |Kiichan|Schala| calls firewall.
#1932 [11:28] <gamakichi> direct from minecraft website
#1933 [11:28] <SwiftHands> a day ago i set on my Nvidia control panel to ovveride application settings for AA!
#1934 [11:28] <gamakichi> per ec card
#1935 [11:28] <SwiftHands> anyways, when i turned it back to application controlled, it works fine
#1936 [11:28] * Kealper headtilts
#1936 [11:29] <Kealper> gamakichi: but which payment method? paypal, moneybookers, direct credit card, etc?
#1937 [11:29] <SwiftHands> dont know how or why some servers were like this and others were allowing connection, i guess its more of a plugin thing... but there you have it
#1938 [11:29] <gamakichi> bank card
#1939 [11:29] <SwiftHands> so keep in mind the user defined settings in Nvidia control panel for problems with "downloading terrain" being stuck
#1940 [11:29] <Kealper> SwiftHands: that is one of the strangest fixes to connection problems that i've seen in a while...lol
#1941 [11:29] <gamakichi> ec card
#1942 [11:29] <Morrolan> Kealper: Haha, I stumbled across a similar error in Deus Ex:HR a bit ago.
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#1944 [11:32] <Kealper> ok back...
#1945 [11:32] <jonzey1234> have to restart again, wish me luck :P
#1946 [11:32] * Kealper wishes jonzey1234 luck
#1946 [11:33] <Kealper> gamakichi: can you confirm that the payment has went through?
#1947 [11:34] <gamakichi> yes it was told me
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#1949 [11:35] <Kealper> gamakichi: then i would say wait a few more hours, some times it could take a bit for the payment to go through and to mark you as paid
#1950 [11:36] <gamakichi> ok i hope it thx
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#1953 [11:39] <jonzey242> im back... again :P
#1954 [11:40] <Kealper> jonzey242: uh-oh...
#1955 [11:40] <jonzey242> xD
#1956 [11:40] <Kealper> jonzey242: did that one fix anything or break stuff?
#1957 [11:40] <jonzey242> my resolution/colour is back to normal :P
#1958 [11:40] <Kealper> ahh, that's better
#1959 [11:40] <Kealper> jonzey242: Minecraft work?
#1960 [11:40] <jonzey242> but minecraft is still not loading
#1961 [11:40] <Kealper> hmm..
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#1963 [11:41] <Kealper> looks like an SiS graphics chip just doesn't support the stuff Minecraft needs :/
#1964 [11:42] <jonzey242> :/
#1965 [11:44] <Oerg866> <Kealper> looks like an SiS graphics chip just doesn't support the stuff Minecraft needs :/
#1966 [11:44] <Oerg866> i've played minecraft with a SiS chip before
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#1968 [11:45] <Oerg866> jonzey242: you have to get the absolute latest driver for your chip that you can find
#1969 [11:45] <Kealper> Oerg866: there are SiS cards that will run it, that one can not, apparently
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#1971 [11:45] <Oerg866> Kealper: which one deos he have?
#1972 [11:45] <Kealper> SiS 661FX/GX Mirage Graphics
#1973 [11:46] <jonzey242> i like how you know more about my pc than i do :p
#1974 [11:46] <Kealper> and i got him the latest drivers from Acer's website....no dice
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#1976 [11:46] <Oerg866> guess it's comparable to a gf4 card
#1977 [11:47] <Oerg866> it should run, but maybe you got better dice to get driver from sis website
#1978 [11:47] <Piwix> can someone help me with multiplayer classic. I try to connect to every game and cant connect. Ive tried a diffierent broswer and unblocked java on firewall and used 3rd party software and everything!
#1979 [11:48] <Oerg866> jonzey242: windows XP I assume?
#1980 [11:48] <Piwix> yep
#1981 [11:48] <Piwix> it used to work
#1982 [11:48] <jonzey242> Oerg866 yeah
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#1984 [11:48] <Benfclark> Hey
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#1986 [11:49] <Oerg866> jonzey242
#1987 [11:49] <Oerg866> the latest driver version is
#1988 [11:49] <Oerg866> v3.93
#1989 [11:49] <Oerg866> from 2010-12-13
#1990 [11:50] <Benfclark> I have had some severe Minecraft performance issues lately.
#1991 [11:50] <Hypolitisolized> Hi, I've just bought Minecraft, downloaded the game but when I try to login i get an error: "Login failed". The browser version works. Does anyone knows how I can solve this?
#1992 [11:50] <Benfclark> They started when I updated my AMD video card drivers to the newest version (11.9)
#1993 [11:50] <jonzey242> Oerg866 i have no clue how to update to that :P
#1994 [11:50] <Oerg866> jonzey242: http://www.mediafire.com/?8eozhhg8kqrb69b
#1995 [11:50] <Oerg866> grab that :V
#1996 [11:51] <Oerg866> Product supported SiS661FX, SiS661GX, SiS662, SiS671, SiS671FX, SiS672, SiS672FX, SiS760, SiS760GX, SiS761GL, SiS761GX, SiSM661FX, SiSM661GX, SiSM661MX, SiSM662, SiSM662MX, SiSM671, SiSM671MX, SiSM672, SiSM672MX, SiSM760, SiSM760GX, SiSM761GX,
#1997 [11:51] <Benfclark> My FPS is a lot lower than it was.
#1998 [11:51] <Benfclark> And I can see visible borders on snow blocks.
#1999 [11:51] <Benfclark> And around the edges of sprite-based scenery.
#2000 [11:51] <Benfclark> Flowers, torches etc.
#2001 [11:51] <jonzey242> Oerg866 thanks :P
#2002 [11:51] <jonzey242> Oerg866 hope that works xD
#2003 [11:52] <Oerg866> It should :)
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#2005 [11:52] <Oerg866> it's a current driver that should implement required OpenGL functions
#2006 [11:52] <Oerg866> if the other SIS cards work with that driver, yours should aswell
#2007 [11:52] <jonzey242> its like youre speaking in a foreign language to me :P
#2008 [11:53] <Oerg866> no worries :)
#2009 [11:53] <Benfclark> Can anyone help me at all?
#2010 [11:53] <Benfclark> It would be much appreciated.
#2011 [11:53] <Oerg866> <Benfclark> And around the edges of sprite-based scenery.
#2012 [11:53] <Oerg866> ... you don't happen to have a laptop would you?
#2013 [11:53] <jonzey242> Oerg866 me?
#2014 [11:54] <Oerg866> no, benfclark
#2015 [11:54] <Benfclark> Nope, it's a desktop.
#2016 [11:54] <Oerg866> hm
#2017 [11:54] <Oerg866> Radeon HD 6470 ?
#2018 [11:54] <Benfclark> HD 5770
#2019 [11:54] <Oerg866> hm
#2020 [11:54] <Benfclark> 11.9 driver series
#2021 [11:55] <Oerg866> windows 7?=
#2022 [11:55] <Benfclark> Last time this happened was 11.8
#2023 [11:55] <Benfclark> A rollback fixed it, but it doesn't this time.
#2024 [11:55] <Benfclark> Yes
#2025 [11:55] <Benfclark> 64-bit
#2026 [11:55] <Oerg866> ok, I will update my system to 11.9 and see if I get the same issues
#2027 [11:56] <Kealper> Benfclark: go in to the ati catalyst control center (or amd vision center, depending on your card) and disable all 3d graphics enhancements like anti-aliasing, anistropic filtering, etc
#2028 [11:56] <Kealper> Benfclark: set them to application-controlled
#2029 [11:56] <Benfclark> Ok
#2030 [11:57] <Oerg866> yeah i'm haveing a serious issue with my laptop aswell, and even though I am an experienced hardware tech, this one gave me quite the nightmares
#2031 [11:57] <jonzey242> Oerg866 installing the update you gave to me now :P
#2032 [11:57] <jonzey242> need to restart again! brb :P
#2033 [11:57] <Oerg866> Kealper: seems the textures don't get loaded correctly into my laptop's VRAM, they're shifted by 2 pixels to the right... I can see a bit of stone in a grass texture (just an example)
#2034 [11:57] <Oerg866> good luck jonzey
#2035 [11:58] <Benfclark> Kealper, so it's a known issue then?
#2036 [11:58] <Oerg866> it has this switchable graphics business, and it happens on both integrated and dedicated graphics o_O
#2037 [11:58] <Kealper> Oerg866: hmm...i've seen that once before from someone in here aaaaages ago....can't remember what the fix was by now :/
#2038 [11:58] <Oerg866> No worries, I'll try to fix it some day
#2039 [11:58] <Kealper> Benfclark: has always happened on mine as well
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#2041 [12:00] <Benfclark> Ok, let's give it a try..
#2042 [12:00] <Benfclark> .*
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#2044 [12:01] <Benfclark> Ever get this problem, when CCC won't open?
#2045 [12:02] <Benfclark> Also, completely fixed. My heartiest thanks, Kealper.
#2046 [12:02] <Oerg866> <Benfclark> Ever get this problem, when CCC won't open? <-- no because it's AMD ViSiON engine control cetner now =P
#2047 [12:02] <Oerg866> *center, even
#2048 [12:02] <Benfclark> Ok
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#2050 [12:03] <Oerg866> kealper: if this works, you owe me a beer, kind sir *shot*
#2051 [12:03] <Benfclark> Anyhoo, that should fix the performance issues I've had with other games.
#2052 [12:03] <Benfclark> It's something that's easy to overlook.
#2053 [12:03] <Oerg866> Benfclark: Yes, especially if these are sometimes hte default settings
#2054 [12:04] * jonzey1234 [jonzey1234@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2055 [12:04] <jonzey1234> back again! lol
#2056 [12:05] <Benfclark> I assume you were getting the same problem, then?
#2057 [12:06] <Oerg866> No, but i have an issue aswell I couldn't fix yet :(
#2058 [12:06] <Benfclark> Ok
#2059 [12:06] <Benfclark> What GPU have you got?
#2060 [12:06] <jonzey1234> my client stays open for a few seconds longer than before, but it still just goes blank then closes :P
#2061 [12:06] <Oerg866> jonzey1234: Try the in-browser version
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#2063 [12:07] <Benfclark> Hopefully this will fix the crashes, too.
#2064 [12:08] <Kealper> jonzey1234: and if that doesn't work...then i have something i would like you to try...
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#2066 [12:08] <Kealper> will it get Minecraft working? most likely...will it be playable...ehh...TBD
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#2068 [12:09] <Oerg866> Kealper: the words "soft renderer" spring to mind, you mean that?
#2069 [12:09] <jonzey1234> just tried the browser one again, and on that the loading bar gets to about 95% done, and then the message done loading comes up
#2070 [12:09] <jonzey1234> then that freezes :P
#2071 [12:09] <Oerg866> aww :(
#2072 [12:09] <Benfclark> And on that note, I must scarper. A thousand thanks for your help.
#2073 [12:09] <Oerg866> sorry, mate
#2074 [12:09] <Kealper> Oerg866: yeah
#2075 [12:09] <Oerg866> Oof, I dunno
#2076 [12:10] <Oerg866> SiS platforms don't exactly stand for powerfull =P
#2077 [12:10] <Oerg866> -l
#2078 [12:10] <jonzey1234> :P
#2079 [12:10] <Oerg866> A p4 with OpenGL soft renderer... Maybe, if the CPU has HT, but otherwise I wouldn't really bother... but try it, I guess
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#2081 [12:11] <Kealper> jonzey1234: ok, this is the Custer's Last Stand of this channel....hopefully it doesn't end out how the real last stand ended
#2082 [12:11] <jonzey1234> literally no clue what you just asked of me :P
#2083 [12:11] <Oerg866> nothing, I was talking to kealper :D
#2084 [12:11] <jonzey1234> kk xD
#2085 [12:11] <Kealper> jonzey1234: first, open your Control Panel
#2086 [12:11] <jonzey1234> and wth is custers last stand? o.o
#2087 [12:11] <Kealper> o.o
#2088 [12:12] <Kealper> American Civil War reference
#2089 [12:12] <jonzey1234> im english! XD
#2090 [12:12] <Kealper> ..fair enough...lol
#2091 [12:12] <jonzey1234> :P
#2092 [12:12] <Treet> hello,.. can someone help me? i cant login with my minecraft client but it goes with the browser... The client write "Too many failed logins"... but i write the right accdata... thats shit :x sry fpr bad english :x
#2093 [12:12] <Oerg866> Kealper: going to fall-back to XP's integrated OGL renderer?
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#2095 [12:12] <jonzey1234> okay, control panel is open :P
#2096 [12:12] <Oerg866> I don't thinkthat will work, because opengl.dll is openGL 1.0 or 1.1 capable, not 2.0
#2097 [12:12] <Kealper> Oerg866: Minecraft doesn't use OpenGL 2.0 though :P
#2098 [12:13] <Oerg866> Hm? funny, I remember the error message on my old lappy saying something along those lines
#2099 [12:13] <Kealper> hmm....now if i could only remember where that option was that i was looking for....
#2100 [12:13] <Oerg866> Kealper: I will take it from here
#2101 [12:13] <Oerg866> jonzey1234: click "Display"
#2102 [12:14] <Oerg866> then go to properties (the very last part of the menu bar on the top there)
#2103 [12:14] <Oerg866> I only have german windows at hand, so i can't tell you the exact names
#2104 [12:14] <Oerg866> Then, you should see a button [ Advanced ] or something like this
#2105 [12:14] <Kealper> not quite what i was aiming for, i was looking for the option to set Java to always launch with specific parameters, and i was going to tell him what parameters to enter ;?
#2106 [12:14] <Kealper> :/*
#2107 [12:14] <Oerg866> Oh
#2108 [12:15] <Oerg866> I thought you meant disable hardware accelleration
#2109 [12:15] <jonzey1234> o.o
#2110 [12:15] <Oerg866> Um
#2111 [12:15] <Oerg866> ok um.... hold on XD
#2112 [12:15] <jonzey1234> decide between yourselves :P
#2113 [12:15] <Treet> hello,.. can someone help me? i cant login with my minecraft client but it goes with the browser... The client write "Too many failed logins"... but i write the right accdata... thats shit :x sry fpr bad english :x
#2114 [12:15] <Oerg866> hang in there hold on
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#2117 [12:16] <Triggerdusk> how do i make a portal to The End?
#2118 [12:17] <Oerg866> ok Kealper I think I know what you mean
#2119 [12:17] <Oerg866> in control panel, click Java, and you will get java control panel
#2120 [12:17] <Grim_Reaper> 1.9 pre 4 - find a stronghold, find the ender portal area. Fill the blocks with endereyes. Jump into portal. Die to get out
#2121 [12:17] <Kealper> Oerg866: i couldn't find that option to force launching inside my Java control panel
#2122 [12:17] <Oerg866> Kealper
#2123 [12:18] <jonzey1234> ive got java up :/
#2124 [12:18] <Triggerdusk> thanks grim so how do i find a strong hold?
#2125 [12:18] <Oerg866> Java register card, then there is Java runtime settings
#2126 [12:18] <Oerg866> and then view
#2127 [12:18] <Oerg866> you will see something like
#2128 [12:18] <Grim_Reaper> Right click on ender eyes and keep following where they go
#2129 [12:18] <Kealper> but the parameters he should use, should you find it is this: -Dsun.java2d.noddraw=false -Dsun.java2d.d3d=true -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false -Dorg.lwjgl.opengl.Display.allowSoftwareOpenGL=true
#2130 [12:18] <Oerg866> Okay
#2131 [12:18] <Triggerdusk> did that and they brought me to a spot with just normal stone
#2132 [12:18] <Oerg866> Jonzey1234: Follow my lead
#2133 [12:18] <Oerg866> Open up that java thing
#2134 [12:18] <Grim_Reaper> Make sure the area is generated in 1.9 pre 4
#2135 [12:18] <jonzey1234> Oerg866 sir yes sir
#2136 [12:18] <Oerg866> then click the "Java" tab
#2137 [12:18] <Grim_Reaper> If it's already generated. You wont find it
#2138 [12:19] <Oerg866> then click the View... button
#2139 [12:19] <Triggerdusk> oh so itll only do a new world
#2140 [12:19] <Triggerdusk> ok thanks
#2141 [12:19] <Oerg866> then you will see an empty field that says runtime parameters on top of it
#2142 [12:19] <Oerg866> paste here what Kealper wrote above
#2143 [12:19] <Oerg866> and then click okay
#2144 [12:20] <Kealper> oh...derp, totally missed that when i was looking for that lol
#2145 [12:20] <Oerg866> =P
#2146 [12:20] <Oerg866> and then, click apply
#2147 [12:20] <Oerg866> and then it should work like kealper wants it to
#2148 [12:20] <jonzey1234> idk where im pasting the info o.o
#2149 [12:20] <Oerg866> Jonzey1234: got the Java control panel up?
#2150 [12:21] <jonzey1234> yeah
#2151 [12:21] <Oerg866> Click the "Java" tab
#2152 [12:21] <jonzey1234> i clicked on java tab then view
#2153 [12:21] <Oerg866> and there is that empty field
#2154 [12:21] <Oerg866> called runtime parameters
#2155 [12:21] <jonzey1234> riiight
#2156 [12:21] <jonzey1234> i got you
#2157 [12:21] <Oerg866> double click that and paste what kealper wrote up there =P
#2158 [12:21] <Kealper> paste this in there: -Dsun.java2d.noddraw=false -Dsun.java2d.d3d=true -Dsun.java2d.opengl=false -Dorg.lwjgl.opengl.Display.allowSoftwareOpenGL=true
#2159 [12:22] <jonzey1234> okay, done that
#2160 [12:22] <Oerg866> click OK
#2161 [12:22] <Oerg866> and then Apply
#2162 [12:22] <Oerg866> and you should be good to go
#2163 [12:22] <jonzey1234> :o
#2164 [12:22] <jonzey1234> ill give it a go now ^^
#2165 [12:23] <Kealper> i just tried this myself.....Minecraft is working, and my card is reading 0% gpu activity
#2166 [12:23] <jonzey1234> nope it vanished again :/
#2167 [12:23] <Kealper> still no?
#2168 [12:23] <Kealper> :<
#2169 [12:23] <Oerg866> um
#2170 [12:23] <Oerg866> stupid question
#2171 [12:23] <Oerg866> are you using java 1.7?
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#2173 [12:24] <jonzey1234> idk what that is :p
#2174 [12:24] <Oerg866> um hang on
#2175 [12:24] <Oerg866> go back to that view thing
#2176 [12:24] <Oerg866> java -> java -> view
#2177 [12:24] <Kealper> Java 1.7 works with Minecraft, i have that on my laptop
#2178 [12:24] <Oerg866> what platform is listed there
#2179 [12:24] <Oerg866> kealper: but not out of the box
#2180 [12:24] <Kealper> worked for me out of the box on a new windows 7 install :o
#2181 [12:24] <jonzey1234> 1.6
#2182 [12:25] <Oerg866> ok then i'm afraid you're out of luck
#2183 [12:25] <jonzey1234> :/
#2184 [12:26] <Kealper> jonzey1234: after much pain and suffering, i must declare your graphics card not good enough to play Minecraft
#2185 [12:26] <Oerg866> sorry, mate
#2186 [12:26] <Oerg866> Kealper: it'S not so much the card, but the system environdmemt itselkf
#2187 [12:26] <Oerg866> man typing is hard when you're tired X_x
#2188 [12:26] <jonzey1234> damn xD
#2189 [12:26] <gamakichi> now are 4 hours later and the games dident start still !!!!
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#2191 [12:28] <Kealper> gamakichi: unfortunately, we are just volunteers so we can't really help with account issues beyond telling you to wait, or contact Mojang :/
#2192 [12:28] <jonzey1234> so it looks like i need a new pc? :P
#2193 [12:28] <gamakichi> who is mojang?
#2194 [12:29] <Kealper> jonzey1234: not really new PC, if i had to guess, just a graphics card (although more RAM would not hurt)
#2195 [12:29] <Kealper> gamakichi: Mojang is the company that makes Minecraft
#2196 [12:29] <gamakichi> oh ok ^^ thx
#2197 [12:29] <Kealper> gamakichi: http://minecraft.net/support
#2198 [12:29] <Kealper> whoops
#2199 [12:29] <Kealper> wrong link, one sec
#2200 [12:30] <Oerg866> well, I have to jet. C'yall later :)
#2201 [12:30] * Kealper waves
#2201 [12:30] <jonzey1234> thanks for all your help :)
#2202 [12:30] <jonzey1234> cya!
#2203 [12:31] <mr_trousers> I have a problem, when I launch my minecraft.jar, an error come: BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528
#2204 [12:31] <Kealper> gamakichi: http://www.minecraft.net/support click on: Payment > Transaction > My transactio nwas successful. But where is my game?
#2205 [12:32] <Kealper> actually
#2206 [12:32] <Kealper> man, i am just not on the ball right now
#2207 [12:32] <Kealper> mr_trousers: did you try installing a texture pack?
#2208 [12:32] <mr_trousers> no
#2209 [12:32] <gamakichi> yes i do it thx !
#2210 [12:32] <Kealper> mr_trousers: a mod?
#2211 [12:33] <mr_trousers> no
#2212 [12:33] <Kealper> gamakichi: also on that page, look at Account > Premium
#2213 [12:33] <mr_trousers> yesterday it worked but not yet
#2214 [12:34] <mr_trousers> i have linux
#2215 [12:34] <Kealper> mr_trousers: can you copy the whole error report that you get, and thne paste it in to http://pastebin.com and give me the URL that it takes you to after clicking Submit?
#2216 [12:35] <mr_trousers> when I click it say: "Pastebin.com is under heavy load right now :'("
#2217 [12:36] <Kealper> mr_trousers: oh my...ok then, do the same instructions, except use http://gist.github.com lol
#2218 [12:36] <jonzey1234> right, im giving up on this for now.... minecraft ill be back for you one day!!!!
#2219 [12:36] <gamakichi> where i must watch?
#2220 [12:36] <Kealper> gamakichi: hmm?
#2221 [12:37] <mr_trousers> I don't find "Submit"
#2222 [12:38] <Kealper> mr_trousers: the submit one on that gist site is "Create pubic gist", sorry, forgot to mention that lol
#2223 [12:38] <Kealper> public***
#2224 [12:38] <Kealper> horrible word to mistype D:
#2225 [12:38] <gamakichi> oh i cant believe it i hope the game start at this day
#2226 [12:39] <mr_trousers> git://gist.github.com/1298872.git
#2227 [12:39] <Kealper> mr_trousers: are you using Ubuntu?
#2228 [12:40] <mr_trousers> yes
#2229 [12:41] <Kealper> mr_trousers: hmm...do you know how to enable "restricted drivers"?
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#2231 [12:41] <mr_trousers> hmm no
#2232 [12:42] <mr_trousers> I'm french so I don't speak English very well:s
#2233 [12:43] <Kealper> mr_trousers: hmm...unfortunately i have not used Ubuntu in a while, so i can not give much help with this :/
#2234 [12:43] <mr_trousers> never mind:(
#2235 [12:45] <mr_trousers> the url is http://pastebin.com/xSSP87br
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#2238 [12:48] <done929> help me
#2239 [12:48] <done929> please
#2240 [12:49] <mr_trousers> what the matter
#2241 [12:49] <mr_trousers> what's**
#2242 [12:49] <done929> my minecraft keeps deleting my worlds im getting really annoyed
#2243 [12:49] <done929> i played this world for 2 weeks andthen gone
#2244 [12:49] <done929> it happened 3 times before that i thought it was a glitch but my it kinda annoyed
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#2246 [12:50] <done929> yes
#2247 [12:50] <claude> hello?
#2248 [12:50] <mr_trousers> maybe your save is in your /.minecraft/save folder
#2249 [12:50] <done929> is it cos it so big it unloads the safe and then ur supposed to resave
#2250 [12:51] <Guest12490> hello..
#2251 [12:51] <done929> ffs
#2252 [12:51] <Guest12490> my minecraft keeps closing by itself !!!
#2253 [12:51] <done929> wow thats annoying now cos my charger doesnt charge my lappy so it will happen alot
#2254 [12:51] <Guest12490> HELP!
#2255 [12:51] <VoxelHead> Guest12490: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#2256 [12:52] <done929> lol cool
#2257 [12:52] <done929> can i try?
#2258 [12:52] <done929> telepathy
#2259 [12:52] <done929> :( dont work for me i dont think
#2260 [12:53] <Guest12490> i dont know im just playing normal when suddenly my minecraft closes by itself and then on my desktop theres a java error message
#2261 [12:53] <Guest12490> !
#2262 [12:53] <mr_trousers> who know the temple of notch save it is huge!
#2263 [12:53] <done929> um have you updated ur java?#
#2264 [12:53] <Guest12490> yes!
#2265 [12:53] <done929> and aubot
#2266 [12:53] <Guest12490> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000084c1, pid=4060, tid=2884 # # JRE version: 6.0_29-b11 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.4-b02 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C 0x000084c1 # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: # http://j
#2267 [12:53] <done929> aubot can i make a server with just be playing?
#2268 [12:54] <done929> me*
#2269 [12:54] <|Kiichan|Schala|> done929: a server with just you...? why not just play singleplayer?
#2270 [12:54] <done929> cos when i play mine my worlds get corrupted due to my alppy turns off
#2271 [12:54] <done929> lappy*
#2272 [12:55] <done929> lol when i play singleplayer
#2273 [12:55] <Guest12490> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000084c1, pid=4060, tid=2884 # # JRE version: 6.0_29-b11 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.4-b02 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C 0x000084c1 # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: # http://j
#2274 [12:55] <done929> no i mean just playing on a server with me
#2275 [12:55] <Guest12490> done
#2276 [12:55] <|Kiichan|Schala|> done929: youll have to have another computer you can access to have as a server, and you can just not share that there is a server up.
#2277 [12:56] <Guest12490> http://pastebin.com/jzUBiGEQ
#2278 [12:56] <Guest12490> is there any other way i can fix it?
#2279 [12:56] <done929> aubot are you a bot or like just got a awesome name
#2280 [12:56] <Guest12490> ok
#2281 [12:56] <Guest12490> what is it
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#2284 [12:57] <VoxelHead> done929: (aubot) Aubot is also a bot.
#2285 [12:57] <done929> ok biggggggggggg question
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#2287 [12:57] <|Kiichan|Schala|> done929: aubot is a bot with a lazy person sitting at the controls :P
#2288 [12:57] <VoxelHead> Guest12490: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#2289 [12:57] <VoxelHead> Guest12490: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#2290 [12:58] <done929> do u have to PAY to play multiplayer
#2291 [12:58] <done929> ???
#2292 [12:58] <Guest12490> but u dont use a mac
#2293 [12:58] <done929> cos if u do i wont go on it
#2294 [12:58] <Guest12490> i*
#2295 [12:59] <Guest12490> does it work online aswell?
#2296 [12:59] <done929> ^^^^ answer please
#2297 [12:59] <done929> lol
#2298 [12:59] <Guest12490> ok
#2299 [12:59] <done929> how i do that think to say i payed
#2300 [12:59] <done929> happened before
#2301 [12:59] <done929> um forgot what i typed
#2302 [13:00] <done929> has done929 payed
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#2304 [13:00] <|Kiichan|Schala|> !paid done929
#2305 [13:00] <done929> :D
#2306 [13:00] <|Kiichan|Schala|> aubot answering himself :P
#2307 [13:00] <done929> lolol
#2308 [13:00] <done929> um havnt been on multiplayer incase i have to pay
#2309 [13:00] <done929> cos my mother doesnt want to cos last time my xbox got hacked
#2310 [13:01] <done929> lost £300 so making sure
#2311 [13:01] <done929> ok just making sure
#2312 [13:01] <|Kiichan|Schala|> done929: the only cost for minecraft is purchasng the game.
#2313 [13:01] <done929> and i want to know what happened last night
#2314 [13:01] <done929> imy lappy went off and when i came back on my world was there
#2315 [13:01] <done929> no corruption
#2316 [13:01] <done929> then turnned lappy on today and gone
#2317 [13:02] <|Kiichan|Schala|> done929: gone as in not in list?
#2318 [13:02] <done929> yes
#2319 [13:02] <|Kiichan|Schala|> ?? nullsave
#2320 [13:02] <VoxelHead> nullsave: If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#2321 [13:02] <VoxelHead> nullsave: MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#2322 [13:02] <done929> im kinlol
#2323 [13:02] <done929> lol if i find 3 worlds im be annoyed
#2324 [13:03] <|Kiichan|Schala|> going into powersave mode or battery dying with minecraft open counts as a crash
#2325 [13:03] <done929> lol my laptop doesnt charge
#2326 [13:04] <gamakichi> Kealper i see now i dont get e confirmation email!
#2327 [13:04] <done929> due to charger says 70w but lappy says its below 65W
#2328 [13:04] <Kealper> gamakichi: does it still say you have not paid?
#2329 [13:05] <gamakichi> no i have pay when i try to log in game it say im not a premium user
#2330 [13:06] <done929> guys im lost
#2331 [13:06] <done929> i go on that link and go to minecraft fourms
#2332 [13:06] <done929> and says abunch of stuff and i dont get it can someone help me plz
#2333 [13:06] <Kealper> gamakichi: email daniel@mojang.com and explain your case then...it should have marked you as premium by now :/
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#2335 [13:07] <Kealper> gamakichi: don't forget to provide proof that you bought the game (usually a transaction ID) and your account username that you bought it on
#2336 [13:07] <gamakichi> ok thx
#2337 [13:07] <done929> has hamakichi payed?
#2338 [13:08] * mib_j47wh9 [mib_j47wh9@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2339 [13:08] <Kealper> !paid hamakichi
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#2342 [13:08] <done929> lol fail somewhere there
#2343 [13:08] <gamakichi> ok thx
#2344 [13:08] <guest-0-42125> hey
#2345 [13:08] <done929> kealper fail
#2346 [13:09] <Kealper> i copied that from what you said, so if it has a typo, you typo'd it
#2347 [13:09] <guest-0-68805> ! pay stormexilous
#2348 [13:09] <done929> huh confused ;)
#2349 [13:09] <done929> um fail
#2350 [13:09] <guest-0-42125> ! pay Horridben
#2351 [13:10] <guest-0-68805> !pay stormexilous
#2352 [13:10] <done929> !paid done929
#2353 [13:10] <guest-0-68805> how do you do it
#2354 [13:10] <guest-0-42125> !pay HorridBen
#2355 [13:10] <done929> :D
#2356 [13:10] <Kealper> it's !paid, not !pay....
#2357 [13:10] <done929> ahh i see sorry kealper
#2358 [13:10] <guest-0-42125> !paid HorridBen
#2359 [13:10] <done929> i thought !paid meant that person has payed sorry man
#2360 [13:10] <done929> my fault
#2361 [13:10] <Guest12490> and..
#2362 [13:10] <done929> !paid stormexilious
#2363 [13:11] <done929> !paid nightmarerh
#2364 [13:11] <done929> lol
#2365 [13:11] <guest-0-68805> !paid stormexilous
#2366 [13:11] <Kealper> the !paid command checks if that given username has paid for Minecraft or not
#2367 [13:11] <Kealper> also, don't spam it
#2368 [13:11] <Guest12490> when i play in browser it freezes the goes white!
#2369 [13:11] <Guest12490> helo
#2370 [13:11] <done929> ive payed cos im awesome
#2371 [13:11] <Guest12490> help*
#2372 [13:11] <VoxelHead> Guest12490: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#2373 [13:11] <guest-0-42125> When i get to Minecraft Launcher i log in with my username for site, it says log in failed and i cant do anything?
#2374 [13:11] <Guest12490> when im playing with my friend online
#2375 [13:12] <Guest12490> it goes white for a moment and logs out and freezes
#2376 [13:12] <Kealper> guest-0-42125: does it work if you go to http://www.minecraft.net/game ?
#2377 [13:13] <done929> ok need help
#2378 [13:13] <Guest12490> help!
#2379 [13:13] <done929> im on that link voxel told me to go on and ive downloaded it
#2380 [13:13] <VoxelHead> Guest12490: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#2381 [13:13] <done929> what do i do?
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#2384 [13:14] <guest-0-34939> are the servers down i cant login?
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#2387 [13:14] <guest-0-42125> I can play Minecraft through browser but not though the launcher when i download it.
#2388 [13:15] <Guest12490> when i play in browser my game freezes then closes online and yes i have tried another browser!
#2389 [13:16] <Guest12490> is this got to do with the cracked version!
#2390 [13:16] <Guest12490> ?
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#2392 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> If you're playing on a cracked version, you're on your own
#2393 [13:17] <Guest12490> no i deleted it
#2394 [13:17] <VoxelHead> Guest12490: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2395 [13:17] <VoxelHead> Guest12490: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2396 [13:18] <done929> aubot you know that link voxelhead give me about my corrupeted worlds
#2397 [13:18] <Guest12490> ive done that! but im saying has it got anything with my minecrasft keep closing!
#2398 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> If you've done that, we would've seen a pastebin.com link from you.
#2399 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Guest12490 - When it closes, do you get any error reports? Any files named hs_err_pid?
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#2401 [13:19] <Guest12490> yes!
#2402 [13:19] <done929> aubot?
#2403 [13:19] <done929> k
#2404 [13:19] <done929> greyvulpine
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#2406 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Could you please copy the contents of the error report, go to pastebin.com and paste it there. Submit it, then give us the URL to it so that we may read it?
#2407 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> done929 - Yes?
#2408 [13:19] <Guest12490> i already have
#2409 [13:20] <done929> ok my worlds are on this thing i was told to download
#2410 [13:20] <Guest12490> like 10 min ago
#2411 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> And the URL is?
#2412 [13:20] <Guest12490> wait
#2413 [13:20] <done929> http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#2414 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> done929 - Could you start from the top?
#2415 [13:20] <done929> ok my world are being corrupeted ive downloaded that
#2416 [13:20] <done929> like i was told
#2417 [13:20] <done929> and im on it now i see the worlds in it
#2418 [13:20] <Guest12490> http://pastebin.com/jzUBiGEQ
#2419 [13:20] <|Kiichan|Schala|> gv: nullsave
#2420 [13:20] <done929> what do i do now?
#2421 [13:21] <done929> yes nullsave lol
#2422 [13:21] <done929> ive been on it how do i get them worlds onto minecraft do i go on it and save it?
#2423 [13:21] <Guest12490> I CANT WAIT! I WANT TO PLAY NOWWWWW
#2424 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Oi..
#2425 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Guest12490 - Give us a dxdiag
#2426 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> ??> Guest12490 win/dxdiag
#2427 [13:21] <VoxelHead> Guest12490: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2428 [13:21] <VoxelHead> Guest12490: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2429 [13:22] <Guest12490> ?
#2430 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> done929 - Wait, what? this is a link to mcedit...
#2431 [13:22] <Guest12490> i dont understand
#2432 [13:22] <done929> yes
#2433 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> Guest12490 - Instructions are there, what don't you understand?
#2434 [13:22] <done929> um ok
#2435 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> done929 - I wasn't here when you first stated your problem...
#2436 [13:22] <Guest12490> wait
#2437 [13:24] <|Kiichan|Schala|> GreyVulpine: nullsave. his computer goes off/standby with minecraft open and breaks his worlds
#2438 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Aaah...
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#2440 [13:25] <finnen> Hello. Anyone good with server batchfiles? =)
#2441 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> done929 - Run MCEdit, point it to the folder where you have the worlds that aren't opening in minecraft. Run the world using MCedit, resave it immediately aftewards
#2442 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> You should be able to see your world then
#2443 [13:25] <Guest12490> as a txt file?
#2444 [13:26] <done929> sorry back back
#2445 [13:26] <finnen> Yep, windows.
#2446 [13:26] <done929> nullsave: If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#2447 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> done929 - Run MCEdit, point it to the folder where you have the worlds that aren't opening in minecraft. Run the world using MCedit, resave it immediately aftewards
#2448 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> You should be able to see your world then
#2449 [13:26] <done929> how do i resave?
#2450 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Got the world open in MCedit? Press Ctrl+S to resave
#2451 [13:26] <done929> kk ty
#2452 [13:26] <Guest12490> shall i save it as a .TXT file!
#2453 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Guest12490 - Yes
#2454 [13:27] <Guest12490> now what?
#2455 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> ??> Guest12490 win/dxdiag
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#2457 [13:27] <VoxelHead> Guest12490: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2458 [13:27] <VoxelHead> Guest12490: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2459 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> Read.
#2460 [13:27] <Guest12490> ..
#2461 [13:28] <AndrewsPanda> Is anyone here running iconomy??
#2462 [13:28] <Guest12490> it says it too large!
#2463 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Guest12490 - Don't use mibpaste. Actually paste it at www.pastebin.com
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#2465 [13:28] <done929> i fu**ing love you guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2466 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> AndrewsPanda - Try #bukkit
#2467 [13:28] <done929> you people are the best you offer your help and your the best !
#2468 [13:29] <AndrewsPanda> kk
#2469 [13:29] <AndrewsPanda> Grey i bet you do tho ;)
#2470 [13:29] <done929> :) thanks guys got my world
#2471 [13:29] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2471 [13:29] <Guest12490> http://pastebin.com/Ub7UiqHV
#2472 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I don't use bukkit.
#2473 [13:29] <done929> uhhhh wait wtf its 0.0mb
#2474 [13:29] <AndrewsPanda> ok fair enough
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#2476 [13:30] <done929> um i open the world and im jsut getting hit
#2477 [13:30] <Guest12490> are you reading this
#2478 [13:30] <Guest12490> http://pastebin.com/Ub7UiqHV
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#2480 [13:32] <Guest12490> hrello?
#2481 [13:35] <Guest12490> hello
#2482 [13:36] <done929> thanks for all your help but my worlds are buged
#2483 [13:36] <done929> bugged
#2484 [13:36] <Guest12490> http://pastebin.com/Ub7UiqHV
#2485 [13:36] <done929> and i keep falling constantly so oh well
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#2487 [13:38] <done929> anyone got a link where i can find a server?
#2488 [13:39] <Guest12490> greyvulpine ?
#2489 [13:40] <calatalee> hen is the realease for 1.9?
#2490 [13:40] <calatalee> *when
#2491 [13:41] <done929> um ill find out for you now
#2492 [13:41] <Guest12490> dunno
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#2494 [13:43] <done929> minecraft 1.9 full version will be released in a total of 30 Days
#2495 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> 1.9 supposedly releases Nov 18-19
#2496 [13:43] <done929> 19th of november
#2497 [13:43] <calatalee> ok thx
#2498 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Guest12490 - I cannot find updated drivers for your system..
#2499 [13:43] <done929> possible november the 18th night
#2500 [13:43] <calatalee> omg have to wait for a long time! thx though
#2501 [13:44] <done929> um lol thats gonna be a problem
#2502 [13:44] <Guest12490> ok ..
#2503 [13:44] <GreyVulpine> Nov 18-19 is Minecon. Mojang's planning on releasing it at Minecon
#2504 [13:44] <done929> calatalee
#2505 [13:44] <done929> its atually good date cos they could do more updates and could be released sometime next year
#2506 [13:44] <done929> so your lucky lol
#2507 [13:44] <Guest12490> by the way when i play on google chrome it goes white while im playing with friend..
#2508 [13:44] <Guest12490> and i tried other browsers
#2509 [13:45] <done929> um google chrome has problems atm
#2510 [13:45] <Guest12490> .. internet explorer?
#2511 [13:45] <done929> my g chrome is playing up and over 20 other people i know have it aswell
#2512 [13:45] <done929> idk about iex
#2513 [13:45] <Guest12490> and for safari it keeps askking me to login :S
#2514 [13:45] <done929> :s
#2515 [13:46] <done929> i need a link!
#2516 [13:46] <done929> for!
#2517 [13:46] <Guest12490> ok bye
#2518 [13:46] <done929> servers on multiplayer
#2519 [13:47] <done929> help??
#2520 [13:47] <VoxelHead> done929: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#2521 [13:47] <done929> ik ik lol
#2522 [13:47] <done929> i need a link for a list of active servers
#2523 [13:47] <done929> ive looked on minecraft fourms
#2524 [13:47] <done929> cant seem to find any
#2525 [13:49] <done929> any help?
#2526 [13:52] <Sardonicus> ??
#2527 [13:52] <Sardonicus> what's your problem?
#2528 [13:52] <done929> you know a link for a list of servers
#2529 [13:53] <done929> for multiplayer?
#2530 [13:53] <Sardonicus> why don't you just type mincecraft servers into google?
#2531 [13:53] <Sardonicus> like "minecraft smp"
#2532 [13:53] <Morrolan> ??> done929 smp/servers
#2533 [13:53] <VoxelHead> done929: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2534 [13:53] <VoxelHead> done929: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#2535 [13:53] <Morrolan> These serverlists are a good start. There are also sections at various forums.
#2536 [13:54] <done929> i have thank you guys
#2537 [13:54] <Sardonicus> Is Morrolan related to Morrowind?
#2538 [13:54] <done929> lol fail
#2539 [13:54] <Sardonicus> lol
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#2541 [13:54] <done929> thak you guys
#2542 [13:54] <Morrolan> Sardonicus: Nope, it's not. :)
#2543 [13:54] <done929> thank*!!!
#2544 [13:54] <Morrolan> Related to some book series.
#2545 [13:54] <Sardonicus> you're done?
#2546 [13:54] <Sardonicus> And the Morrowind builds up on the book series?
#2547 [13:55] <Atamido> For the past few weeks when I've tried to get into Minecraft it hasn't worked. Right now I'm getting Can't connect to minecraft.net. Any ideas?
#2548 [13:55] <Sardonicus> well it still sounds like fantasy series to me
#2549 [13:55] <Morrolan> No, it's completely unrelated to Morrowind as far as I know.
#2550 [13:55] * Steve[MBA] [Steve[MBA]@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2551 [13:55] <Morrolan> But yes, it's a fantasy series.
#2552 [13:55] <Sardonicus> Well yesterday I found some funny picture
#2553 [13:55] <Morrolan> Atamido: Any security software which might block you from connecting?
#2554 [13:56] <Sardonicus> like a scheme for finding a fantasy/scifi book to read
#2555 [13:56] <Morrolan> Ah, I've seen these for movies.
#2556 [13:56] <Sardonicus> asking questions, you have to answer, and so it's going to end at some book
#2557 [13:56] <Atamido> My Windows firewall is turned off, and I don't have any other firewall software.
#2558 [13:56] <Atamido> It is working for everyone else?
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#2560 [13:57] <Morrolan> Works fine for me, yea. What happens if you try to connect to https://login.minecraft.net in your browser, Atamido?
#2561 [13:57] <Atamido> "Bad login"
#2562 [13:57] <Blonger> Hello i have a small question.
#2563 [13:57] <Blonger> why is it so hard to buy minecraft?
#2564 [13:57] <Atamido> At least it resolves.
#2565 [13:57] <Morrolan> Yea, that sounds fine.
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#2567 [13:57] <Morrolan> Blonger: Be more specific please.
#2568 [13:57] <Jammy> is there a way to de-sticky a sticky piston? :P
#2569 [13:58] <Sardonicus> Because Notch already has enough money
#2570 [13:58] <Scott> Morrolan: You may wish to check the IP it's resolving to. It wouldn't be unusual for someone to modify the hosts file. o:
#2571 [13:58] <Morrolan> Jammy: Not that I know of.
#2572 [13:58] <Atamido> It would tell me if my password were incorrect, right?
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#2574 [13:58] <Atamido> Where would I go to verify my account information?
#2575 [13:58] <Morrolan> Scott: Aye, but that'd be the first time someone actually redirected it to a webpage which behaves like the normal one.
#2576 [13:58] <Morrolan> It's worth a try though, I guess.
#2577 [13:58] <Morrolan> ??> Atamido win/hosts
#2578 [13:58] <Scott> Really?
#2579 [13:58] <VoxelHead> Atamido: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2580 [13:58] <VoxelHead> Atamido: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2581 [13:58] <Scott> I figured someone would clone the login system by now.
#2582 [13:58] <Morrolan> Atamido: In case you're on WIndows - try what VoxelHead told you.
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#2585 [13:59] <Morrolan> Scott: Most pirated clients just redirect it to localhost.
#2586 [13:59] <Morrolan> Might be that there's a cloned login system by now though.
#2587 [13:59] <Scott> Interesting.
#2588 [13:59] <Scott> Are the passwords sent in plain text?
#2589 [14:00] <Scott> I'm not familiar with how the login works anymore.
#2590 [14:00] <Morrolan> Oh, that's an interesting thought, actually. If it were it'd be a "great" idea to set up a fake login system.
#2591 [14:00] <Scott> yeah lol
#2592 [14:00] <Atamido> My hosts file just has some entries for adobe.com.
#2593 [14:00] <Kealper> been there, done that, and no it can't work anymore
#2594 [14:00] <Scott> malware that edits the hosts file and steals logins.
#2595 [14:00] <Morrolan> Atamido: That sounds fine as well.
#2596 [14:00] <Scott> Atamido: You pirate. :(
#2597 [14:00] <Kealper> the current launcher uses ssl to login
#2598 [14:01] <Morrolan> Kealper: Oh, right, forgot about that. :S
#2599 [14:01] <Atamido> Nah, I just have to keep my Adobe software from valiantly screwing itself up.
#2600 [14:01] <Scott> People use the hosts files to block the adobe activation servers
#2601 [14:01] <Morrolan> Atamido: Uh, and you said it used to work before, and suddendly it doesn't anymore?
#2602 [14:02] <Atamido> Yep.
#2603 [14:02] <Atamido> If I login to www.minecraft.net, is that the same login that I should be using?
#2604 [14:02] <Scott> Do you have any antivirus or firewall software?
#2605 [14:02] <Scott> Yes
#2606 [14:02] <Morrolan> Actually, Atamido, you are using the new launcher, right?
#2607 [14:03] <Atamido> My only antivirus is Microsoft Security Essentials, which doesn't have a firewall. And my Windows firewall is turned off.
#2608 [14:03] <Morrolan> The one which has a changelog when you start it up?
#2609 [14:03] <Atamido> Where do I download the latest launcher?
#2610 [14:03] <Morrolan> client
#2611 [14:03] <Morrolan> !client
#2612 [14:03] <Scott> Well, MSE shouldn't stop it.
#2613 [14:04] <Atamido> Ooh, this is different.
#2614 [14:04] <Atamido> Now I get "Login failed". :)
#2615 [14:04] <WoM-Guest> Hey Kiichan
#2616 [14:05] <Morrolan> Heh, and I assume you're sure that your password is correct? Does it contain any special characters, like, for example, a §?
#2617 [14:06] <WoM-Guest> Can anyone help me with a redstone portcullis problem
#2618 [14:06] <Atamido> No special characters. I just verified it's the same that I used to login to www.minecraft.net
#2619 [14:06] <Morrolan> Feel free to describe your issue WoM-Guest, maybe someone's got a clue.
#2620 [14:07] <Morrolan> Atamido: Does your WIndows username contain a '!' ?
#2621 [14:07] <Atamido> Nope.
#2622 [14:07] <Atamido> Just alphabet characters.
#2623 [14:07] <Morrolan> Hmm, in this case try these instructions, it'll then show you an error in the console. Paste that one on www.pastebin.com please: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#2624 [14:08] <Morrolan> Also, I'll go and have dinner, just poke any of the voices or ops in here when you've got the error message.
#2625 [14:08] <WoM-Guest> ok well I have made a 3 block wide piston portcullis that works fine and now i used the exact same config for a 7 block wide piston portcullis but the end 2 pistons wont work can anyone help
#2626 [14:10] <Atamido> Weird, that worked.
#2627 [14:11] <Atamido> Spoke too soon.
#2628 [14:11] <Atamido> I was able to connect once using the batch/jar file and login. I closed and re-opened it, and I get Login failed again.
#2629 [14:11] <Atamido> I might just be broken.
#2630 [14:13] <Atamido> I reset my password to the same thing, and now it has worked several times in a row.
#2631 [14:13] <Atamido> Very weird.
#2632 [14:13] <Atamido> Oh cool, there's finally a server management systems.
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#2636 [14:19] <Xavier> Ok, this is probably a bad place to ask, but does anyone know of any terrain mods for 1.8? The terrain is too boring for me now.
#2637 [14:22] <Xavier> Is that a no? :P
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#2640 [14:23] <Xavier> Wow, where is everyone?
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#2646 [14:26] <RobinJ24> I downloaded minecraft, but it says "Bad video card drivers" when I try to load, and I can't see what video card I have in dxdiag
#2647 [14:26] <RobinJ24> I solved this a long time ago by myself but I forgo thow I did it....
#2648 [14:27] <lemon-rev> xavier start a new map
#2649 [14:27] <lemon-rev> RobinJ24 windows / mac ?
#2650 [14:27] <RobinJ24> Windows
#2651 [14:27] <lemon-rev> ??> RobinJ24 win/dxdiag
#2652 [14:27] <VoxelHead> RobinJ24: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2653 [14:27] <|Kiichan|Schala|> RobinJ24: gpux? should tell you wan gpu you have
#2654 [14:27] <VoxelHead> RobinJ24: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2655 [14:28] <Xavier> Actually what I meant is that I strongly dislike the new biomes, aka how flat and boring they are.
#2656 [14:28] <RobinJ24> http://pastebin.com/FLgMCUyk
#2657 [14:28] <|Kiichan|Schala|> Xavier: 'flat'? you obviously havent been in a mountain biome
#2658 [14:28] <lemon-rev> xavier prob is that if and when notch / jeb decide to change that again then sorry 1.7.3 was best for old biomes
#2659 [14:28] <lemon-rev> ty RobinJ24
#2660 [14:28] <Xavier> -.- mountain biomes are terrible...
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#2663 [14:29] <lemon-rev> RobinJ24 Memory: 504MB RAM < dude, this is just ok for minecraft but are you running mods ?
#2664 [14:29] <emeres-> I was trying to buy minecraft but after the verification it said that the payment was unsuccesfull, then all of a sudden it said that it was successful (???) so did it actually work or not? If so where do I get minecraft?
#2665 [14:29] <RobinJ24> No
#2666 [14:29] <almostroot> RobinJ24: No way on this earth will your machine run Minecraft in any playable sort of way.
#2667 [14:30] <Xavier> My question was are there any mods that make it more similar to the way 1.7 looked?
#2668 [14:30] <RobinJ24> almostroot: I have played it before and it works ok
#2669 [14:30] <SleepGamer> HI, could someone please help me? I buyed minecraft, downloaded it and now i can'Ät get an connection to the server
#2670 [14:30] <lemon-rev> emeres- it is fake it didnt go though its a fake possitive, ring yuor bank if you wish to find out if its gone though or not
#2671 [14:30] <SleepGamer> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect</center></font></body></html>
#2672 [14:31] <lemon-rev> SleepGamer go to minecraft.net and login and click in broswer
#2673 [14:31] <almostroot> SleepGamer: Add an exception for Minecraft and Java in your firewall.
#2674 [14:31] <emeres-> lemon-rev i checked it through the internet bank and no payment went through
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#2676 [14:31] <emeres-> was just making sure
#2677 [14:31] <lemon-rev> k
#2678 [14:31] <almostroot> RobinJ24: Try downloading the display drivers here: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=97130&prodSeriesId=316517&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=1093
#2679 [14:32] <RobinJ24> almostroot: where is the download link..
#2680 [14:32] <almostroot> RobinJ24: Under Driver - Display / Monitor
#2681 [14:32] <SleepGamer> at lemon-rev: nut i want to play offline. Do the browserversion download the game, too ?
#2682 [14:32] <RobinJ24> I assume I can download anything from the Driver - graphics section?
#2683 [14:33] <SleepGamer> but
#2684 [14:33] <RobinJ24> Ah
#2685 [14:33] <lemon-rev> SleepGamer the game should update in broswer then you can play offline
#2686 [14:33] <SleepGamer> ah, ok. thx
#2687 [14:34] <SleepGamer> it worked. thx
#2688 [14:34] <lemon-rev> lol np
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#2692 [14:39] <robinj244> Didnt work
#2693 [14:39] <robinj244> Same error
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#2695 [14:40] <lemon-rev> robinj244 do you have any video card in that machine that you know you have ? bcause atm i think it was just the generic drivers for your pc, which wont run minecraft
#2696 [14:41] <RobinJ24> I dont know what the name of the card is
#2697 [14:41] <lemon-rev> do you know what number it is ? maybe what was the computer number and make maybe we can find out that way
#2698 [14:42] <RobinJ24> Umm...number?
#2699 [14:43] <lemon-rev> ie if it was a hp, then what say number when you brougt it the computer it should have it , also is there like a tag that has any ident on it
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#2701 [14:45] <RobinJ24> Theres no number here
#2702 [14:45] <RobinJ24> Theres a serial number
#2703 [14:45] <lemon-rev> hm, i dont want serial number if its like windwos key but you can give me the number if you wish
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#2706 [14:46] <RobinJ24> ..
#2707 [14:46] <RobinJ24> Well anyways
#2708 [14:46] <RobinJ24> theres only a serial number
#2709 [14:46] <lemon-rev> RobinJ24 ok use that serial number on google and put hp next to it and see what you get
#2710 [14:47] <RobinJ24> My serial number ends with BJ
#2711 [14:48] <RobinJ24> I know someone who would lolz hard righ tnow
#2712 [14:48] <lemon-rev> RobinJ24 i said you can do it, via google if you dont wish to give it too me, ok
#2713 [14:48] <RobinJ24> and I got nothing on google
#2714 [14:48] <lemon-rev> hm
#2715 [14:48] <lemon-rev> ok
#2716 [14:53] <RobinJ24> Ive solved it several times a half year ago
#2717 [14:53] <RobinJ24> idk how I did it
#2718 [14:53] <RobinJ24> Im a wizard
#2719 [14:54] <lemon-rev> RobinJ24 did your computer come with a cd of any sort
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#2721 [14:54] <almostroot> RobinJ24: Use the scanning tool from NVIDIA
#2722 [14:54] <guest-805495-91211> Can anyone help me?
#2723 [14:54] <almostroot> ??> RobinJ24 gpu/nvidia
#2724 [14:54] <VoxelHead> RobinJ24: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#2725 [14:54] <lemon-rev> guest-0-42125 untill we know the trouble no
#2726 [14:55] <RobinJ24> almostroot: Should I use the scan automatically thing?
#2727 [14:55] <RobinJ24> I got this error:
#2728 [14:55] <RobinJ24> We're sorry, the NVIDIA Smart Scan does not support your system at this time.
#2729 [14:55] <guest-805495-91211> When I log in through the Minecraft client, it crashes and leaves hs_err_pid#### on my desktop. Help? :(
#2730 [14:56] <lemon-rev> guest-0-42125 make sure java is upto date java.com < please
#2731 [14:56] <guest-805495-91211> Is that me? 0-42125?
#2732 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> guest-805495-91211 - Copy the contents of that hs_err_pid to pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#2733 [14:56] <guest-805495-91211> Ok.
#2734 [14:56] <RobinJ24> almostroot: Nevermind, chrome wasnt supported...ill start explorer
#2735 [14:57] <guest-805495-91211> Ugh, now it's not even logging in -_-
#2736 [14:59] <guest-805495-91211> http://pastebin.com/yf5RFa8P
#2737 [14:59] <lemon-rev> guest-0-42125 goto minecraft.net login click in broswer
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#2739 [14:59] <guest-805495-91211> Lemon, are you talking to me?
#2740 [14:59] <guest-805495-91211> Because it's logged me in. And my name doesn't say 0-42125,
#2741 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> guest-805495-91211 - Please give us a dxdiag
#2742 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> ??> guest-805495-91211 win/dxdiag
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#2744 [14:59] <VoxelHead> guest-805495-91211: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2745 [15:00] <VoxelHead> guest-805495-91211: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2746 [15:00] <lemon-rev> sorry its just me trying to quick tab
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#2748 [15:00] <ThisDudeRiteHere> Hi there
#2749 [15:01] <guest-805495-91211> I've already pasted the link
#2750 [15:01] <guest-805495-91211> http://pastebin.com/yf5RFa8P#
#2751 [15:01] <guest-805495-91211> Oops
#2752 [15:01] <guest-805495-91211> http://pastebin.com/yf5RFa8P
#2753 [15:02] <GreyVulpine> We're asking for something different, your dxdiag
#2754 [15:02] <guest-805495-91211> I went to the toilet, so it's blown up for me :l
#2755 [15:03] <guest-805495-91211> Now, how am I supposed to show you my dxdiag?
#2756 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> ??> guest-805495-91211 win/dxdiag
#2757 [15:03] <VoxelHead> guest-805495-91211: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2758 [15:03] <VoxelHead> guest-805495-91211: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2759 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Follow those directions
#2760 [15:04] <guest-805495-91211> Voxel, stop saying that please. I've done that twice already.
#2761 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> No, you haven't
#2762 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> If you read, you'll notice that those directions call for you posting your dxdiag on pastebin
#2763 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> not the error
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#2765 [15:05] <RobinJ24> Someone gave me links to drivers
#2766 [15:05] <guest-805495-91211> He said it before anyone asked for dxdiag. But never mind.
#2767 [15:05] <RobinJ24> I installed them. Good: Minecraft works. Bad: Huge black area at the right of my screen
#2768 [15:05] <guest-805495-91211> http://pastebin.com/LpJ5fci3 Here's my dee-ex-dee-ag.
#2769 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> And that's why you're getting that error. Your computer's probably at least 8-10 years old. Much too old to run minecraft
#2770 [15:07] <guest-805495-91211> So, I can only play Minecraft at school for the rest of my life?
#2771 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> You've got less than a gig of RAM, where minecraft needs at least a gig of RAM for itself.. and SiS graphics, which aren't the best 10 years ago
#2772 [15:07] <GreyVulpine> That, or you can buy a new computer
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#2774 [15:07] <guest-805495-91211> LOOL, buy a new computer. I can't afford a computer :P
#2775 [15:08] <RichardG> it is listed as a bug somewhere that cave spiders spawn on peaceful
#2776 [15:08] <RichardG> is it true, before i start browsing the abandoned mineshaft near my base?
#2777 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> guest-805495-91211 - Well, minecraft won't be running on that computer without an upgrade of 5.
#2778 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> or*
#2779 [15:09] <RobinJ24> Playing Minecraft with 500 mb ram
#2780 [15:09] <RobinJ24> works perfect :)
#2781 [15:09] <RobinJ24> If I play on lowest settings of course
#2782 [15:09] <guest-805495-91211> Well, I guess that means I can play Minecraft at break time for four more years, then I can never play it again :)
#2783 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> RobinJ24 - If it was just the 500 megs of RAM, I could recommend the batch file that executes minecraft with decreased RAM arguments..'
#2784 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> but it's the SiS graphics that are really killing that machine
#2785 [15:10] <guest-805495-91211> I can only have SiS graphics. I tried like 20 other drivers and they said they couldn't be installed./
#2786 [15:10] <RobinJ24> I cant read everything youre saying cause I got a huge black area on the right of the screen
#2787 [15:10] <RobinJ24> but if I downlaod that batch file I can play minecraft with less lag?
#2788 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> RobinJ24 - Not likely
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#2790 [15:10] <RobinJ24> Ah well I think this is good enough
#2791 [15:11] <RobinJ24> Im used to the low settings
#2792 [15:11] <GreyVulpine> guest-805495-91211 - Nothing you can do about that, unfortunately
#2793 [15:11] <guest-805495-91211> I guess I'll have to wait for the Xbox/iOS versions...
#2794 [15:12] <guest-805495-91211> So, is there anything I can do for FREE that will get me to be able to play Minecraft at home?
#2795 [15:13] <guest-805495-91211> (And don't say win a free computer...)
#2796 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2797 [15:13] <RobinJ24> Steal a computer
#2798 [15:13] <guest-805495-91211> Cool :l
#2799 [15:13] <GreyVulpine> That computer needs a serious upgrade.
#2800 [15:14] <guest-805495-91211> Maybe if I save up my birthday and Christmas money for a few years I can buy one myself :)
#2801 [15:14] <oldtopman> GreyVulpine: I have mc working on a computer that has only 1/3 of that RAM
#2802 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> oldtopman - Like I said. The ram isn't what's limiting it.. it's the SiS graphics siphoning RAM from that as well
#2803 [15:14] <oldtopman> oh
#2804 [15:15] <oldtopman> That computer does have an MX440
#2805 [15:15] <oldtopman> nvm
#2806 [15:15] <guest-805495-91211> Is there a graphics driver I can download to make it work?
#2807 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> Even crappy dedicated graphics is better than integrated crappy graphics
#2808 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> No.
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#2810 [15:16] <robinj244> So does anyone know how to remove the huge black area?
#2811 [15:16] <robinj244> It appeared when i installed new drivers
#2812 [15:16] <lemon-rev> whres the black area ?
#2813 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Huge. black area?
#2814 [15:17] <robinj244> At the right of my screen
#2815 [15:17] <robinj244> As if the screen was cut off
#2816 [15:17] <lemon-rev> sounds as if the graphic driver hasnt cleared it self of the last thing you installed
#2817 [15:17] <Sinistrahd> robinj do you have a dual graphics card setup?
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#2819 [15:17] <robinj244> dunno
#2820 [15:17] <robinj244> lemon-rev: How do I fix it?
#2821 [15:18] <lemon-rev> possbile reboot
#2822 [15:18] <robinj244> Just reboot the computer?
#2823 [15:18] <lemon-rev> yup
#2824 [15:18] <robinj244> ok Ill try
#2825 [15:18] <guest-805495-91211> How do I change my name?
#2826 [15:19] <lemon-rev> Sinistrahd dude he doesnt knwo what type of set up hes running and somehow hes gotten it to work so i dont know :)
#2827 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> /nick newnick
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#2829 [15:20] <RobinJ24> lemon-rev: Didnt work
#2830 [15:20] <guest-805495-91211> I really want to play Minecraft! >.<
#2831 [15:20] <lemon-rev> still back screen ?
#2832 [15:20] <RobinJ24> yes
#2833 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> guest-805495-91211 - Like we said, get/buy a new computer
#2834 [15:21] <guest-805495-91211> LOOOL, like I can afford a computer XD
#2835 [15:21] <lemon-rev> RobinJ24 check the last thing you installed and make sure the computer is useing it if it was some sort of graphic driver
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#2837 [15:22] <RobinJ24> lemon-rev: How do I do that?
#2838 [15:23] <lemon-rev> robin right click on my computer / should be desktop and click on manage in the drop down menu
#2839 [15:23] <guest-805495-91211> K, well I'm gonna get in my bed, crawl in my corner and wish I could play Minecraft for more than an hour a week.
#2840 [15:23] <RobinJ24> and then?
#2841 [15:24] <lemon-rev> theres under system a thing called device manager
#2842 [15:24] <RobinJ24> yes
#2843 [15:24] <lemon-rev> ok click on display adapters and tell me what it says if anything ?
#2844 [15:25] <RobinJ24> Yes Intel (R) Blah blah blah Graphics Controller
#2845 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> blah blah blah?
#2846 [15:26] <guest-805495-91211> Can't play Minecraft at all for ten days, then after a few weeks can't play for two weeks. Then will be the time that I can't play for six weeks...
#2847 [15:26] <lemon-rev> RobinJ24 then you need to make sure from what ever it says try googleing it and see if you can find drivers for that intell
#2848 [15:26] <youwillneverno> argh too many failed logins is a lie!
#2849 [15:26] <Sinistrahd> youwillneverno: the cake is a too many failed logins?
#2850 [15:27] <youwillneverno> basicly
#2851 [15:28] <youwillneverno> so is there no fix for it? Iv searched around and just find people saying nothing fixes it
#2852 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> No fix.
#2853 [15:28] <youwillneverno> sad day
#2854 [15:29] <youwillneverno> will it work if i wait a while or just kind of a random thing that will hate me from now on
#2855 [15:29] * lemon-rev wishes jeb/notch made carrying eggs was 64 stack again
#2855 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Probably the former
#2856 [15:29] <RobinJ24> lemon-rev: Ill search for Intel blahblah whatever it says and add the word Drivers?
#2857 [15:30] <lemon-rev> yes you could try that
#2858 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Or you can search using intel's site
#2859 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> ?? gpu/intel
#2860 [15:30] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2861 [15:31] <RobinJ24> S omany files
#2862 [15:31] <RobinJ24> @_@
#2863 [15:31] <RobinJ24> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&keyword=%22Intel+82845G+Graphics+Controller%22#
#2864 [15:31] <RobinJ24> Which one should I use?
#2865 [15:32] <lemon-rev> try selecting the one with the newest driver say 2010 or newer
#2866 [15:32] <lemon-rev> theres one right down the bottem
#2867 [15:34] <RobinJ24> hmm theres none for xp there
#2868 [15:34] <RobinJ24> lemon-rev: Click Windows XP in that menu
#2869 [15:34] <lemon-rev> well its either xp but your system is vista so just rember that
#2870 [15:35] <RobinJ24> ?
#2871 [15:35] <lemon-rev> you can select xp if you wish and try it, but your system is a vista machine
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#2873 [15:35] <RobinJ24> but im using windows xp
#2874 [15:36] <lemon-rev> hm
#2875 [15:36] <lemon-rev> then get the driver for xp then
#2876 [15:36] <RobinJ24> dunno whcih
#2877 [15:36] <RobinJ24> it says Media acceleraotr
#2878 [15:36] <Jammy> can you destroy monster spawners?
#2879 [15:36] <RobinJ24> Yes but you cant pick them up
#2880 [15:36] <lemon-rev> RobinJ24 you said you found wich one in the device manager click on the one closest to that card
#2881 [15:37] <Jammy> is tehre something more fast at killing them?
#2882 [15:38] <RobinJ24> uhh the spawners?
#2883 [15:38] <RobinJ24> try a pickaxe..
#2884 [15:38] <Jammy> ok
#2885 [15:39] <clarjon1> try dynamite? ;)
#2886 [15:39] <RobinJ24> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=9033&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20Professional*&DownloadType=
#2887 [15:39] <RobinJ24> I think I should download this
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#2889 [15:39] <RobinJ24> Where the hell is the download button?
#2890 [15:39] * mib_aksejw [mib_aksejw@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2891 [15:39] <Myskillzownu> I need server help
#2892 [15:39] <crash_demons> try the seed `pollinating sandboxes` without quotes and check what it says on the F3 pane for seed :)
#2893 [15:39] <mib_wugwug> :j
#2894 [15:39] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#2895 [15:39] <mib_wugwug> ...
#2896 [15:39] <Myskillzownu> I had a lot of experience and because I died all of the experience made it crash
#2897 [15:39] <Myskillzownu> what do I do?
#2898 [15:39] <lemon-rev> hm, RobinJ24 i can clearly see it move the slider down the bottem of the screen to the right and youll see the download button
#2899 [15:40] <Myskillzownu> There's to much experience on the ground for it to handle
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#2901 [15:40] <lemon-rev> RobinJ24 thats 2005 btw,
#2902 [15:40] <clarjon1> Hm, what does one do in the case of 'too many failed logins' again?
#2903 [15:40] <RobinJ24> lemon-rev: I know, but it said 2007 on the first page
#2904 [15:40] <RobinJ24> and 2007 is the latest apparently
#2905 [15:40] <RobinJ24> for all those drivers
#2906 [15:40] <mib_wugwug> looks likve I've been beaten to it
#2907 [15:40] <crash_demons> er, wrong window
#2908 [15:40] <mib_wugwug> :?j
#2909 [15:40] <WugBot> j was set by: almostroot
#2910 [15:40] <mib_wugwug> :java
#2911 [15:40] <WugBot> java: Java sucks and is stupid.
#2912 [15:41] <mib_wugwug> heh
#2913 [15:41] <RobinJ24> also lemon-rev The download button was behind the black area :P
#2914 [15:41] <Myskillzownu> anyone got an answer?
#2915 [15:41] <lemon-rev> oh, i see lol
#2916 [15:41] <Myskillzownu> my server crashed because i died and theres too much exp on the ground for it to handle
#2917 [15:41] <clarjon1> lemon-rev: User has 'too many failed logins' error. What do they do?
#2918 [15:42] <lemon-rev> clarjon1 how long has it been since last login ?
#2919 [15:42] <clarjon1> i'm guessing not long, lemme see
#2920 [15:42] <mib_wugwug> Myskillzownu: stop server, open world with mcedit, select area where you died, remove entitie
#2921 [15:42] <mib_wugwug> entities*
#2922 [15:42] <mib_wugwug> you'll lose your dropped items
#2923 [15:42] <Myskillzownu> ugh okay, but
#2924 [15:42] <Myskillzownu> do they intend to change this in later updates?
#2925 [15:43] <mib_wugwug> yeah, its a known issue
#2926 [15:43] <Myskillzownu> losing all your exp every time you die is a fatal mistake
#2927 [15:43] <Myskillzownu> ahh okay, thanks
#2928 [15:43] <mib_wugwug> drives everyone crazy
#2929 [15:43] <Myskillzownu> Yeah it's annoying ;p
#2930 [15:43] <mib_wugwug> and its not like it does anything
#2931 [15:43] <Myskillzownu> Thanks mib
#2932 [15:43] <clarjon1> lemon-rev: i guestimate last login attempt was within the last hour.
#2933 [15:43] <clarjon1> oh wait
#2934 [15:43] <clarjon1> yesterday
#2935 [15:43] <clarjon1> wait...
#2936 [15:43] <clarjon1> hm
#2937 [15:43] <mib_wugwug> clarjon1: lots of people seem to be having this issue, it seems to be related to something mollstam did
#2938 [15:43] <lemon-rev> hm can you play offline ? you should only have to wait about 5 mins
#2939 [15:43] <mib_wugwug> try changing your password
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#2941 [15:44] <RobinJ24> didnt work
#2942 [15:44] <mib_wugwug> just popped in to check the java factoid, bye everyone
#2943 [15:45] * clarjon1 tells user to try changing password
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#2944 [15:46] <clarjon1> Aaaand password change did nothing
#2945 [15:46] <clarjon1> hm
#2946 [15:46] <glarg> hello?
#2947 [15:46] <RobinJ24> How to fix?
#2948 [15:46] <glarg> i asked my freind to help me install stuff but he went on a trip so he told me to come here
#2949 [15:47] <glarg> can anyone here help?
#2950 [15:47] <lemon-rev> RobinJ24 you either try installing that driver or going to control pannel removing all grpahic drivers installed and keep with generic, good luck
#2951 [15:47] <lemon-rev> glarg if its about mods we really dont support them here
#2952 [15:47] <glarg> where can i get help im bad with installing stuff
#2953 [15:47] <RobinJ24> Lol im so stupid
#2954 [15:48] <RobinJ24> I went to the control panel and looked for the control panel icon
#2955 [15:48] <clarjon1> glarg: install what kind of stuff? like, addons to the game?
#2956 [15:48] <glarg> yah like buildcraft
#2957 [15:48] <glarg> and industrial
#2958 [15:48] <clarjon1> yeah, those are mods
#2959 [15:48] <glarg> i dont know how
#2960 [15:48] <clarjon1> you need to follow the instructions on the mod page
#2961 [15:48] <glarg> for me its so small i have bad I sight
#2962 [15:49] <clarjon1> press ctrl and + to increase text size in your browser
#2963 [15:49] <glarg> he said u can help with teamviewer
#2964 [15:49] <glarg> ok???
#2965 [15:49] <glarg> how i shrink again for bros?
#2966 [15:50] <clarjon1> glarg: We don't do mod/addon support here, really. This is for help with login issues, crashy video drivers, and so forth.
#2967 [15:50] <glarg> where fcan i get help i dont know crap about PCs
#2968 [15:50] <glarg> i only know how to play minecraft
#2969 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> The mod's installation page has all the directions you need
#2970 [15:50] <clarjon1> mhm
#2971 [15:51] <glarg> ok but i dont know anything about the files
#2972 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Hundreds, if not thousands of people have installed mods reading their own instructions
#2973 [15:51] <glarg> or anything really
#2974 [15:51] <glarg> ok so it will tell everything?
#2975 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2976 [15:51] <clarjon1> If it doesn't, it's not very nice of the mod author to leave ya hanging ^_^
#2977 [15:51] <glarg> kk tyvmgrey
#2978 [15:52] <glarg> brb
#2979 [15:52] <clarjon1> glarg: If you run into an issue, post a reply to the forum topic so the author can help you :)
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#2981 [15:52] <clarjon1> hm
#2982 [15:52] <glarg> ok
#2983 [15:52] <robinj244> "Embedded drivers" What's that?
#2984 [15:52] <clarjon1> The user i'm helping (too many failed logins) gets a whitescreen when he tries to play
#2985 [15:53] <lemon-rev> embeddd drivers look it up, google will tell you everything :P
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#2987 [15:54] <Red_Barchetta> Anyone about?
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#2989 [15:55] <Red_Barchetta> Im getting "too many failed logins" error and cant play MC. I can log into the webpage, changed my password, tried playing the game in brwoser which brings up a plain white screen in both FF and Chrome, and still unable to log in
#2990 [15:56] <JohnEBH> ??> Red_Barchetta error/cantconnect
#2991 [15:56] <VoxelHead> Red_Barchetta: (error/cantconnect) Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#2992 [15:56] <VoxelHead> Red_Barchetta: (error/cantconnect) This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#2993 [15:56] <Red_Barchetta> I can connect to minecraft.net though
#2994 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Red_Barchetta - Really nothing you can do there, you're not the only person to experience this
#2995 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> Only thing you can do is wait.
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#2997 [16:00] <glarg> erm it dosent say how to install it:(
#2998 [16:01] <mpet78> Hi! Anyone know a reason for me not seeing any console text on my server??
#2999 [16:01] <glarg> i really wanted this m o d but it dosent say how
#3000 [16:01] <mpet78> works for others, but not me (I´m admin)
#3001 [16:02] <glarg> can anyone help me install buildcraft???
#3002 [16:02] <glarg> it dosent say how:(
#3003 [16:03] <robinj244> try #risucraft
#3004 [16:03] <robinj244> oops
#3005 [16:03] <robinj244> no wait
#3006 [16:03] <glarg> ?
#3007 [16:03] * BlockalHero [BlockalHero@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3008 [16:03] <robinj244> that ^
#3009 [16:03] <glarg> ??
#3010 [16:03] <BlockalHero> hi
#3011 [16:03] <robinj244> click it
#3012 [16:03] <glarg> ok
#3013 [16:03] <glarg> im banned iv never been there?!
#3014 [16:03] <glarg> WTF?!
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#3016 [16:04] <glarg> any help here im some how banned from #risucraft
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#3018 [16:05] <glarg> anyone here able to help me?
#3019 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Risucraft kinda got tired of helping with "How do I install x mod" questions
#3020 [16:06] <glarg> :(
#3021 [16:06] <glarg> but i dont know how
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#3024 [16:06] <glarg> -sad face-
#3025 [16:06] <lemon-rev> use google to how to install mod , minecraft :P, see what you get
#3026 [16:06] <glarg> ok
#3027 [16:06] <glarg> brb
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#3029 [16:10] <glarg> it just crashed my MC!!
#3030 [16:10] <glarg> help??
#3031 [16:10] <VoxelHead> glarg: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#3032 [16:11] <glarg> im installing buildcraft i did everything but it crashed
#3033 [16:11] <glarg> i think im doing something wrong
#3034 [16:11] <glarg> any help?
#3035 [16:12] <glarg> please help someone anyone?
#3036 [16:13] <glarg> whats teamviewer my freind said u can help me if i had that???
#3037 [16:13] <glarg> i downloaded it well he did
#3038 [16:14] <glarg> -sadface
#3039 [16:14] <glarg> (: :(
#3040 [16:15] <glarg> ): :(
#3041 [16:15] <glarg> :(
#3042 [16:15] <glarg> anyone here???.
#3043 [16:16] <Morrolan> ?? mods
#3044 [16:16] <glarg> hello?
#3045 [16:16] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3046 [16:16] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#3047 [16:16] <Morrolan> Also, some patience won't hurt you.
#3048 [16:16] <glarg> im on client
#3049 [16:16] <glarg> and risucraft banned me when iv never been there
#3050 [16:17] <Morrolan> If you want to get rid of the mod, start the launcher, chose "Options" and press "force update"
#3051 [16:17] <Morrolan> Risucraft just banned Mibbit all together.
#3052 [16:17] <glarg> im trying to install it
#3053 [16:17] <Morrolan> As VoxelHead said, we don't provide support for mods here.
#3054 [16:17] <glarg> where can i get help?
#3055 [16:17] <glarg> the page dosent say how
#3056 [16:18] <Morrolan> ?? mods
#3057 [16:18] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3058 [16:18] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#3059 [16:18] <Morrolan> quote: " For single player mods, contact the mod's creator"
#3060 [16:18] <Morrolan> This means, ask in the mod's forum thread.
#3061 [16:18] <glarg> but then id wait for days
#3062 [16:18] <Ryladine> Lol.
#3063 [16:18] <glarg> my freind didnt get help for 3months
#3064 [16:18] <glarg> or so he said
#3065 [16:18] <Morrolan> And? If you ask heree you won't get any help at all.
#3066 [16:18] <Morrolan> here*
#3067 [16:19] <glarg> he said u can help me
#3068 [16:19] <glarg> thats wy i here
#3069 [16:19] <glarg> but erm where can i go?
#3070 [16:19] <Morrolan> You either missunderstood him, or he didn't knew better.
#3071 [16:19] <Morrolan> To. The. Mod's. Forum thread.
#3072 [16:19] <AwesomezGuy> is there a way to make a buttons "charge" last longer?
#3073 [16:19] <AwesomezGuy> Im using repeaters
#3074 [16:20] <AwesomezGuy> but it doesn't seem to change the length of the charge
#3075 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> AwesomezGuy - Chain repeaters together
#3076 [16:20] <AwesomezGuy> I'm doing that
#3077 [16:20] <Morrolan> AwesomezGuy: Yea, repeaters just, well, delay a signal. Use two lines of repeaters for what you want.
#3078 [16:20] <glarg> :( well c u later since no one will help me install buildcraft
#3079 [16:20] <Zemedelphos> Buttons only last for 10(I think) ticks. You could mod them to last longer.
#3080 [16:20] <AwesomezGuy> 2 lines? :o
#3081 [16:20] <Morrolan> Or just one line with a diret input, and another one with three repeaters.
#3082 [16:20] <Morrolan> It's hard to describe why it works, just try it and you'll see and understand. :D
#3083 [16:20] <AwesomezGuy> how does that work?
#3084 [16:20] <AwesomezGuy> ok
#3085 [16:21] <AwesomezGuy> do you have a little diagram?
#3086 [16:21] <glarg> well BYE! :(
#3087 [16:21] <AwesomezGuy> or something?
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#3089 [16:21] <Morrolan> Well, first the signal is active through the direct line, a bit later it stays active through the repeater-line.
#3090 [16:21] * Morrolan kicked glarg from #minecrafthelp (Reason: larg :Cya)
#3091 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> What Morrolan means is, wire two lines in parallel.
#3092 [16:21] <AwesomezGuy> ahhhhhhhh
#3093 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> One line has no repeaters
#3094 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> One line has a chain of repeater
#3095 [16:21] <Morrolan> Yes, that's what I meant. ^^
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#3097 [16:22] <AwesomezGuy> cool, thanks, ill try it
#3098 [16:22] <Morrolan> I can provide you with a screenshot if needed. ^^
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#3100 [16:22] <Max> Hello Guys
#3101 [16:22] <Morrolan> 'lo Max
#3102 [16:22] <Max> I Need Help
#3103 [16:22] <YannJ> hey ! I'm having trouble running the pocket edition app on my phone !
#3104 [16:23] <YannJ> it says license verification error, or somtheing like this !
#3105 [16:23] <Max> I Don't know about Pocket Edition,sry
#3106 [16:23] <Morrolan> Max: Suggest you describe your issue some more, kinda hard to help you with that less information. ;)
#3107 [16:23] * Morrolan pokes GreyVulpine
#3107 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Ow
#3108 [16:24] <Morrolan> Pocket edition! Halp!
#3109 [16:24] <Max> :D
#3110 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> I have no freakin clue about the pocket edition
#3111 [16:24] <Morrolan> That makes three of us.
#3112 [16:24] <GreyVulpine> Don't have an android phone
#3113 [16:24] <Max> I can't find a other ServerMod as Bukkit
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#3115 [16:24] <Max> i need a other
#3116 [16:24] <Morrolan> Max: Canary is what's left of Hmod. I don't advise you to use it, but if you can't use bukkit, well.
#3117 [16:25] <Max> whats ServerMod do you recommend me?
#3118 [16:25] <Max> okey
#3119 [16:25] <Max> Thabks
#3120 [16:25] <Max> *Thanks
#3121 [16:25] <Morrolan> They can be found at #Canary , and I guess they've also got a website.
#3122 [16:25] <Max> okey i ask There
#3123 [16:26] <Max> bb
#3124 [16:26] <Morrolan> Sure thing, cya.
#3125 [16:26] <Max> thanks for your help
#3126 [16:26] <YannJ> Yes !
#3127 [16:26] <AwesomezGuy> Morrolan: thanks :)
#3128 [16:26] <AwesomezGuy> working great
#3129 [16:26] <YannJ> i've already unistalled and installed it again
#3130 [16:26] <Morrolan> AwesomezGuy: Ah, good to hear that you were able to understand either what I or what GV said. :D
#3131 [16:26] <YannJ> but doesn't seem to change anything !
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#3135 [16:27] <AwesomezGuy> Morrolan: am i allowed to post a server address or are there rules against that in this chan
#3136 [16:27] <AwesomezGuy> I'm bored
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#3138 [16:27] <AwesomezGuy> need someone to play with xD
#3139 [16:27] <robinj244> I can install drivers from intel cause my computer is retarded
#3140 [16:27] <robinj244> I can't*
#3141 [16:27] <Morrolan> AwesomezGuy: Well, generally speaking you might want to use #smp for advertisement.
#3142 [16:27] <robinj244> Can I choose something else?
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#3145 [16:29] <AwesomezGuy> are there any ways to make a really long repeater delay?
#3146 [16:29] <Morrolan> Well, use lots of repeaters and set their delay to maximum each?
#3147 [16:29] <mib_qu6s5l> i need help when i run the game it says pixel format not accelerated I NEED HELP
#3148 [16:29] <AKU|Sandgeist|AFK> Hi People. Can me anybody give a info. Do the actuell Serversoftware from notch have Villages and the new NPC's`?
#3149 [16:29] <AwesomezGuy> without chaining a ridiculous amount of repeaters
#3150 [16:29] <Morrolan> In this case - not really, no.
#3151 [16:30] <mib_qu6s5l> i need help when i run the game it says pixel format not accelerated I NEED HELP
#3152 [16:30] <Morrolan> AKU|Sandgeist|AFK: Villages - yes. NPCs - no clue, but I guess so.
#3153 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> AwesomezGuy - Redstone circuit to fire an item onto a pressure plate. You now have 5 minutes until that item disappears..
#3154 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> That a long enough delay for you?
#3155 [16:30] <Morrolan> mib_qu6s5l: Know what you need as well? Patience. :)
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#3157 [16:30] <Morrolan> mib_qu6s5l: You'll have to update your graphics driver it seems.
#3158 [16:31] <Morrolan> AwesomezGuy: Oh, that's quite a nice idea actually, use a dispense to fire something onto a plate. :D
#3159 [16:31] <AKU|Sandgeist|AFK> Thx @Morrolan, doe the servers have automatic the Dungeons like in sologame with option activated?
#3160 [16:31] <Morrolan> Sorry, AKU|Sandgeist|AFK? What exactly do you mean?
#3161 [16:31] <Aion88> hey guys i have an issue that Im hoping to get resolved..
#3162 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> The multiplayer and single player maps generate the same way..
#3163 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Both will have dungeons.
#3164 [16:32] <AKU|Sandgeist|AFK> Ah okay. Thx. My eng is not that good :p Bzt Grey understand what i mean
#3165 [16:32] <AKU|Sandgeist|AFK> Thx guys. Have a nice day !
#3166 [16:32] <Aion88> java.lang.outofmemory:direct buffer memory error sound familiar
#3167 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Erm, could you pastebin the entire error?
#3168 [16:34] <Aion88> its stupidly not doing it though
#3169 [16:34] <Aion88> im on my friendz laptop
#3170 [16:34] <Aion88> the sound isnt working
#3171 [16:35] <Aion88> and it only gives me error when going multiplayer
#3172 [16:35] <Aion88> or idleing for periods of time
#3173 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe I've seen that error before.
#3174 [16:35] <Aion88> ive tried /w mods and vanilla
#3175 [16:35] <Aion88> just doesnt like me
#3176 [16:36] <Aion88> ive updated JVM
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#3178 [16:36] <alex_> Hi there
#3179 [16:37] <Aion88> more specifically this only starts when sound system tries to start
#3180 [16:37] <Aion88> and im running ti from .jar
#3181 [16:37] <Aion88> right after open AL
#3182 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Have you updated lwjgl yet?
#3183 [16:38] <Aion88> lwjgl?
#3184 [16:38] <alex_> Someone can answer me for one question, did mojang do some clean-up on accouts ? I lost my premium
#3185 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#3186 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> alex_- Nope
#3187 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> alex_ - Did you purchase minecraft directly from minecraft.net?
#3188 [16:39] <alex_> nope, from third-party seller
#3189 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Then you got scammed
#3190 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
#3191 [16:39] <Aion88> sorry dude but only an idiot buys 3rd party
#3192 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Mojang does not have any authorized resellers. The only official place you can buy minecraft is from minecraft.net
#3193 [16:39] <alex_> Ok I see
#3194 [16:40] <alex_> hmmm I bought working one - did work two months
#3195 [16:40] <alex_> Aion88 - no hard feelings ;)
#3196 [16:40] <Aion88> just remember, always confirm with maker before investing
#3197 [16:42] <Aion88> gray
#3198 [16:42] <alex_> I try to get my cash back - I bought game , it don't work so guarntee is still valid
#3199 [16:42] <Aion88> that update has 4 part
#3200 [16:43] <alex_> Thanks for bitter true.. I grab some brick and go for my cash ;)
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#3202 [16:43] <mib_7ei1qc> :D
#3203 [16:47] <Aion88> grey
#3204 [16:47] <Aion88> that update crashed java
#3205 [16:47] <Aion88> before i was able to launch game
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#3207 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Interesting.. Did you replace the files in .minecraft/bin and /.minecraft/bin/natives?
#3208 [16:48] <Aion88> yup
#3209 [16:48] <Aion88> followed it exactly
#3210 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Well, that's not good...
#3211 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Do a force update and try again?
#3212 [16:49] <Aion88> which build of jwjgl should i do
#3213 [16:49] <Aion88> the most update is 2.8x
#3214 [16:49] <Aion88> in the installer it suggests 2.7
#3215 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, whatever the latest stable release is
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#3217 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> Those instructions are old.
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#3220 [16:53] <robinj244> I fixed the black area error
#3221 [16:53] <robinj244> but the drivers I downloaded that worked with minecraft are mysteriously gone
#3222 [16:53] <lemon-rev> robin what you do ?
#3223 [16:53] <lemon-rev> lol ok wired
#3224 [16:53] <robinj244> lemon-rev: changed monitor
#3225 [16:53] <lemon-rev> hahahahahha
#3226 [16:54] * lemon-rev calls that quite dramatic lol
#3226 [16:54] <robinj244> :P
#3227 [17:00] * AKU|Sandgeist|AFK [AKU|Sandgeist|AFK@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3228 [17:00] <AKU|Sandgeist|AFK> Hi dudes. Iam back for one more question thought T_T
#3229 [17:00] <Morrolan> In case anyone's interested, Sandboxie's lifetime license is 50% off atm.
#3230 [17:00] <Morrolan> Hey AKU|Sandgeist|AFK. :D
#3231 [17:00] <AKU|Sandgeist|AFK> ;D The exp what i gather, whats the idea with it and where can i see my lvl xD?
#3232 [17:01] <AKU|Sandgeist|AFK> That Grey bar on the bottom. Or is it not rdy yet that lvl system
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#3234 [17:02] <bobbyboer> Hi everyone
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#3236 [17:02] <Morrolan> The experience does not yet serve any real purpose. I think in the preview versions experience is needed for enchantment, but in the current version it's of no use so far, AKU|Sandgeist|AFK.
#3237 [17:02] <Morrolan> Hey bobbyboer
#3238 [17:02] <AKU|Sandgeist|AFK> kk. Thx ^^
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#3240 [17:04] <bobbyboer> I bet you've been hearing this all time but my Minecraft Doesn't start at all? all it does is Nothing... klicking on the EXE dat. it makes a Bing and Nothing happens. can U Halp me Pls ?
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#3242 [17:06] <lemon-rev> lol yes bobbyboer we do hear it an awful lot check your antivirus scanner and firewall to see if its listed under the blocked program
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#3244 [17:06] <bobbyboer> -.- sometimes i feel a little Dumb... THX
#3245 [17:07] <lemon-rev> and anyone else lol, did it work ?
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#3247 [17:08] <bobbyboer> nop
#3248 [17:08] <lemon-rev> ok goto minecraft.net and login and press in broswer tell me what happens
#3249 [17:08] <bobbyboer> Killed all Antivir and Firewall options... but its still the Same
#3250 [17:09] <AceTheDragon> Hey can someone help me please?
#3251 [17:09] <AceTheDragon> sorry if i'm interrupting anything
#3252 [17:09] <lemon-rev> not with just help, we need info untill then no :P
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#3254 [17:11] <AceTheDragon> ok
#3255 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> bobbyboer - Usually is the result of low RAM, or java
#3256 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> bobbyboer - How much RAM do you have
#3257 [17:11] <AceTheDragon> I'm having an issue where i try to log into minecraft, it logs in, loads, but the screen goes black and about 10 seconds later i get a crash report.
#3258 [17:12] <bobbyboer> AAAHHHH it works thaks a lot
#3259 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> AceTheDragon - Paste the error report to pastebin.com and give us the URL to it
#3260 [17:12] <AceTheDragon> will do.
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#3262 [17:14] <AceTheDragon> http://pastebin.com/U9aAaf12
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#3266 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Huh, interesting.
#3267 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the latest video drivers for your *nix?
#3268 [17:15] <AceTheDragon> I dont know...
#3269 [17:15] <AceTheDragon> and i have no idea how i can find out.
#3270 [17:16] <AceTheDragon> It was working yesterday tho
#3271 [17:16] <AceTheDragon> it was working great.
#3272 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Did you install anything that had to do with video drivers or graphics on your system?
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#3274 [17:16] <AceTheDragon> Nope.
#3275 [17:16] <pancake> hi there?
#3276 [17:16] <AceTheDragon> not that i know of, no.
#3277 [17:17] <alloimjustin> pancake!
#3278 [17:17] <pancake> hi
#3279 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> AceTheDragon - Have you tried a fresh install of minecraft, deleting everything in ~/.minecraft/ except for saves
#3280 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Just to rule that out
#3281 [17:17] <AceTheDragon> I've wiped everything related to minecraft off of my computer and did a full clean reinstall. Same result.
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#3284 [17:17] <alloimjustin> Is this a help center or something???
#3285 [17:18] <napoleon> I cant start Minecraft. The loading freezes just when it's about to finish! What do I do? :(
#3286 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> AceTheDragon - Could you try an update of lwjgl files, by manually downloading them with:
#3287 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#3288 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Those instructions.
#3289 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> napoleon - When does it freeze?
#3290 [17:19] <napoleon> it freezes just as the loading is about to finish
#3291 [17:19] <napoleon> ill try it :)
#3292 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> At done loading?
#3293 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> napoleon - Those instructions weren't for you
#3294 [17:20] <napoleon> ahh
#3295 [17:20] <napoleon> yes, it's about a centimetre left of the loading thing
#3296 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> napoleon - What operating system are you on? Has it worked before?
#3297 [17:21] <napoleon> yes, it worked before, I just reformated my computer -windows
#3298 [17:21] <bobbyboer> Uhm i think it's 4 GB RAM but in Browser it works... Funny but anyhow it works
#3299 [17:21] <alloimjustin> I bought minecraft early this morning and when I did it said the transaction didn't go through then it said thank you for buying yet I don't have it still
#3300 [17:21] <napoleon> it dont work, ive tried :(
#3301 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> napoleon - Try going to your start menu/run command, typing in: %appdata%
#3302 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything in .minecraft except for saves, and trying again
#3303 [17:21] <Aion88> hey greyvulple
#3304 [17:21] <Aion88> i have an update
#3305 [17:22] <napoleon> ive tried that way too many times
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#3307 [17:22] <mib_87xbjt> can someone help me
#3308 [17:22] <Aion88> people using IndustrialCraft v2 there is a few client fixes
#3309 [17:22] <Aion88> http://forum.industrial-craft.net/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=1361
#3310 [17:22] <Aion88> the sound system fix was located in the installation info
#3311 [17:22] <username> i have an error could someone help me
#3312 [17:23] <username> my minecraft wont run
#3313 [17:23] <Aion88> it completely fixed my lwjgl
#3314 [17:23] <napoleon> I have just the same problem, username.
#3315 [17:23] <username> it sucks
#3316 [17:23] <alloimjustin> allo!?
#3317 [17:23] <username> hi
#3318 [17:23] <napoleon> well, yes, but they are trying to fix it for us, I think :)
#3319 [17:23] <username> yeah
#3320 [17:24] <username> i accidentaly deleted the .class files in my .minecraft file > bin > minecraft.jar file
#3321 [17:24] <alloimjustin> I need help, no-one seems to answer my ?
#3322 [17:24] <username> so its screwed.
#3323 [17:24] <AceTheDragon> Ok, i tried what you told me, i still cannot get minecraft to work
#3324 [17:24] <napoleon> maybe GreyVulpine have the answear
#3325 [17:24] <AceTheDragon> I just get a black screen now.
#3326 [17:25] <AceTheDragon> no crash report, just black screen
#3327 [17:25] <alloimjustin> me too when I try to play the free version
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#3329 [17:25] <alloimjustin> I bought the real version but the transaction hasn't gone through or something idk
#3330 [17:25] <napoleon> well, I have bought the game, but still im not able to play:(
#3331 [17:26] <alloimjustin> :(
#3332 [17:26] <username> anyone know if u can put ur worlds on a usb stick?
#3333 [17:26] <AwesomezGuy> yup
#3334 [17:26] <napoleon> yes, you can :)
#3335 [17:26] <username> ok cuz my minecraft wont load
#3336 [17:26] <AwesomezGuy> just grab a copy of them from the mine craft folder
#3337 [17:26] <napoleon> same problem..
#3338 [17:26] <username> so im gonna load my worlds onto a ubs stick and re downlaod minecraft
#3339 [17:27] <AwesomezGuy> what OS are you on?
#3340 [17:27] <AceTheDragon> The only thing that i know that might be an issue, is that someone told me minecraft wnet through some kind of driver update.
#3341 [17:27] <AwesomezGuy> Windows/Mac/Linux?
#3342 [17:27] <username> windows
#3343 [17:27] <AwesomezGuy> anyone remember what folder worlds are in on windows?
#3344 [17:27] <username> its um
#3345 [17:28] <mib_7t9yoa> where do i get openGL mode for 82865G graphics controller? (yes i know its old) my laptop broke now i have to use this old desktop
#3346 [17:28] <alloimjustin> @anyone How long does it usually take a transaction to go through
#3347 [17:28] <AceTheDragon> wait, i take back what i said... it just now crashed... same crash report...
#3348 [17:28] <username> run> %appdata% > .minecraft > saves> world
#3349 [17:28] <mib_7t9yoa> bout 30mins
#3350 [17:28] <alloimjustin> I've been waiting like 6 hours
#3351 [17:29] <alloimjustin> well 8
#3352 [17:29] <mib_7t9yoa> OO
#3353 [17:29] <mib_7t9yoa> OOOOOO
#3354 [17:30] <AceTheDragon> I'm sorry if i'm interupting.
#3355 [17:30] <alloimjustin> Why can't I play minecraft???
#3356 [17:30] <alloimjustin> I need answers
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#3358 [17:31] <alloimjustin> I bought it like 8 hours ago and it still says BUY NOW
#3359 [17:31] <username> did you download it?
#3360 [17:31] <oldtopman> ??> alloimjustin account
#3361 [17:31] <VoxelHead> alloimjustin: (account) We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#3362 [17:31] <VoxelHead> alloimjustin: (account) Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#3363 [17:32] <username> this sucks.. NO MINECTAFT!?!?!
#3364 [17:32] <username> CineMraft.
#3365 [17:32] <oldtopman> ??> username attitude
#3366 [17:32] <VoxelHead> username: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#3367 [17:32] <VoxelHead> username: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#3368 [17:32] <alloimjustin> raftmine!
#3369 [17:33] <AceTheDragon> Anyone have any suggestions for me?
#3370 [17:33] <username> LOL @ Voxelhead for his funny not-so disiplined replies
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#3372 [17:34] <AceTheDragon> Guys, please?
#3373 [17:34] <alloimjustin> Thanks Voxelhead!!
#3374 [17:34] <oldtopman> ;kick username byeeeeeee ^-^
#3375 [17:34] * WugBot kicked username from #minecrafthelp (Reason: sername :byeeeeeee ^-^)
#3376 [17:34] <oldtopman> AceTheDragon: What's up?
#3377 [17:35] <oldtopman> (I missed your original question)
#3378 [17:35] <AceTheDragon> My minecraft crashes every time i log in.
#3379 [17:35] <AceTheDragon> it will occasionally fail to log in when i attempt to.
#3380 [17:36] <AceTheDragon> Minecraft was working great for me just last night. I have no idea why its doing this now.
#3381 [17:37] <AceTheDragon> I'm really, REALLY eager to get back online too... alot of people need my help building on it...
#3382 [17:38] <AceTheDragon> oldtopman, are you there?
#3383 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> AceTheDragon - Did you happen to install any software for a flip camera?
#3384 [17:38] <oldtopman> ??> AceTheDragon win/reinst
#3385 [17:38] <VoxelHead> AceTheDragon: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3386 [17:38] <VoxelHead> AceTheDragon: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3387 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> oldtopman - http://pastebin.com/U9aAaf12 -- linux
#3388 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Most likely has something to do with video drivers
#3389 [17:39] <oldtopman> oh :S
#3390 [17:39] <oldtopman> AceTheDragon: What distro of Linux?
#3391 [17:40] <AceTheDragon> Linux Ubuntu 10.04, Lucid version
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#3394 [17:42] <Midnight_Rambler> evening all
#3395 [17:42] <Midnight_Rambler> or whatever time of the day it is for you
#3396 [17:43] <Midnight_Rambler> ...that sentence looks weird.
#3397 [17:43] <AceTheDragon> oldtopman i have Linux Ubuntu 10.04, Lucid version
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#3401 [17:49] <AceTheDragon> anyone?
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#3403 [17:50] <AceTheDragon> really? ppl i need help!
#3404 [17:51] <oldtopman> ??> AceTheDragon linux/lspci
#3405 [17:51] <VoxelHead> AceTheDragon: (linux/lspci) run the following script at a terminal: "cd ~/Desktop && echo "LSPCI output:" > lspci.log && lspci >> lspci.log && echo "LSMOD output:" >> lspci.log && lsmod >> lspci.log"
#3406 [17:51] <VoxelHead> AceTheDragon: (linux/lspci) Open lspci.log (on your desktop) and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com and click submit. Copy the link you are sent to, and paste it into the channel.
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#3408 [17:54] <AceTheDragon> VoxelHead do i use that entire line?
#3409 [17:54] <AceTheDragon> VoxelHead or just the words inbetween the quotations?
#3410 [17:55] <oldtopman> ??> AceTheDragon bo
#3411 [17:55] <Morrolan> Voxelhead is a bot, but you take everything between the outer quotes.
#3412 [17:55] <oldtopman> ??> AceTheDragon bot
#3413 [17:55] <VoxelHead> AceTheDragon: (bot) I am sometimes a bot, unless I'm not. I may or may not be a sock-puppet. Or a deity. No one really knows.
#3414 [17:56] <Morrolan> that is, from "cd" to "lspci.log"
#3415 [17:56] <oldtopman> oh
#3416 [17:56] <oldtopman> Just copy every thing into the quotes and run it in the commandline
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#3418 [17:56] <oldtopman> yes
#3419 [17:57] <AceTheDragon> ok.
#3420 [17:58] <AceTheDragon> VoxelHead i got it, here it is http://pastebin.com/B3peeCMW
#3421 [18:00] <AceTheDragon> oldtopman http://pastebin.com/B3peeCMW
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#3423 [18:02] <Minxed> does anybody know of a modding channel I can join?
#3424 [18:03] <AceTheDragon> i just read the link i sent earlier... who on earth does it say "pee" in it? o.O
#3425 [18:03] <AceTheDragon> and i have no idea, Minxed, sorry
#3426 [18:03] <Minxed> AceTheDragon: If you don't know, don't answer.
#3427 [18:04] <AceTheDragon> ...
#3428 [18:04] <oldtopman> ??> Minxed mods
#3429 [18:04] <VoxelHead> Minxed: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3430 [18:04] <VoxelHead> Minxed: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#3431 [18:05] <Minxed> okay, thanks guys
#3432 [18:05] <oldtopman> ??> AceTheDragon You have some sort of graphics problem, I don't know enough about Ubuntu to help you.
#3433 [18:05] <oldtopman> derp
#3434 [18:05] <oldtopman> >.>
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#3436 [18:06] <oldtopman> AceTheDragon: You have some sort of graphics problem, I don't know enough about Ubuntu to help you.
#3437 [18:07] <AceTheDragon> oldtopman drat, thats not somthing i want to hear >.<
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#3439 [18:08] <AceTheDragon> oh well... anyone else know what i can to do fix my problem?
#3440 [18:11] <Chris> AceTheDragon, try using debian?
#3441 [18:12] <AceTheDragon> Chris what is that?
#3442 [18:12] <Chris> its a different type of linux, like ubuntu
#3443 [18:13] <AceTheDragon> Chris how can i get it, & will it solve my possible graphic problem?
#3444 [18:14] <Chris> It may, but you'll have to wipe Ubuntu unless you're good at this game and dual boot xD (I have no idea how to with linux...) http://debian.org
#3445 [18:14] <oldtopman> AceTheDragon: webchat.freenode.net <== Join #ubuntu and ask how to reinstall your graphics drivers.
#3446 [18:15] <Chris> or that
#3447 [18:15] <Chris> thats probably a better option
#3448 [18:16] <oldtopman> :P
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#3451 [18:17] <TheNytangel> Huh..
#3452 [18:17] <AceTheDragon> Ok, thank you.
#3453 [18:17] <TheNytangel> My sister was playing WoW with a teacher last night..
#3454 [18:17] <Chris> My brother made me go to his teacher's house once to get a warhammer codex once...
#3455 [18:18] <Morrolan> TheNytangel: You should be able to figure out who was better by looking at the mark on her next exam. ;)
#3456 [18:18] <TheNytangel> Well my sister and her friends usually start stripping..
#3457 [18:18] <TheNytangel> So I vote the teacher
#3458 [18:18] <mib_wc1be1> so minecraft wont work online or the downloaded version whats wrong with it
#3459 [18:19] * frogzilla [frogzilla@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3460 [18:20] <frogzilla> Hello?
#3461 [18:20] <frogzilla> I really need help
#3462 [18:20] <mib_wc1be1> same dude
#3463 [18:21] <frogzilla> I bought the game, crashed it by accident, deleted it, and redownloaded it. Now it's saying I never bought the game, and that I cant play it
#3464 [18:23] * paul_k [paul_k@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3465 [18:23] <AceTheDragon> oldtopman i tried going to that link you posted, and no one seemed to want to help me.
#3466 [18:24] <oldtopman> AceTheDragon: Not my problem :S
#3467 [18:24] <oldtopman> Ask again, be patient, etc.
#3468 [18:24] <Chris> frogzilla, what's your Minecraft name?
#3469 [18:24] * TheNytangel just got excited
#3469 [18:24] <TheNytangel> tyteen4a03, Multiplay now offers servers with IC2 and buildcraft!!
#3470 [18:26] * mib_68k1h2 [mib_68k1h2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3471 [18:26] <Morrolan> buildcraft?
#3472 [18:26] <Morrolan> Also, the two guys who needed help obviously left already.
#3473 [18:28] <TheNytangel> Morrolan, yes, buildcraft
#3474 [18:28] <tyteen4a03> TheNytangel: IC2?
#3475 [18:29] <tyteen4a03> iCraft 2?
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#3477 [18:29] <Scott> Aren't those just mods?
#3478 [18:29] * soenke [soenke@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3479 [18:30] <Sardonicus> :)
#3480 [18:30] <Morrolan> TheNytangel: I meant it as in "What the hell is buildcraft? why is it so special? what am I doing here?"
#3481 [18:30] <soenke> hey Sardonicus
#3482 [18:30] <soenke> .......................__ ............
#3483 [18:30] <soenke> ......<ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL>.
#3484 [18:30] <soenke> ........................| |...........
#3485 [18:30] <soenke> ................... __\||/____......
#3486 [18:30] <soenke> .\\...............|'-|--| .\\....\.....
#3487 [18:30] <Chris> bahahahhahaa
#3488 [18:30] * Kealper kicked soenke from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oenke :soenke)
#3489 [18:30] <Sardonicus> hm
#3490 [18:30] <Morrolan> You're so fast, Kealper. :(
#3491 [18:31] <Kealper> WHATAAAAAAAA!!!!!
#3492 [18:31] <Chris> voxel AND aubot muted soenke?
#3493 [18:31] <Chris> hahaha
#3494 [18:31] <tyteen4a03> what IS IC2?
#3495 [18:31] <Morrolan> Chris: Yea, Aubot's limit is higher, but if someone manages to spam fast enough, well. :D
#3496 [18:31] <TheNytangel> tyteen4a03, industrial craft
#3497 [18:31] <Chris> I have a general idea on what I2C is but no idea about IC2
#3498 [18:31] <TheNytangel> Morrolan, buildcraft is a mod
#3499 [18:31] <tyteen4a03> okay
#3500 [18:32] <Morrolan> TheNytangel: Stop messing with me. :P
#3501 [18:32] <TheNytangel> Morrolan, it's a mod >.>
#3502 [18:32] <Morrolan> Gah, I'mma go google
#3503 [18:32] <TheNytangel> Want the link?
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#3505 [18:32] <TheNytangel> Morrolan, http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/682920-181-buildcraft-222-pipes-quarry-auto-crafting-building-engines/
#3506 [18:32] <Morrolan> Thanks, got it now. :)
#3507 [18:33] <Morrolan> Basically gives Minecraft a modern touch.
#3508 [18:33] <TheNytangel> tyteen4a03, http://www.industrial-craft.net/
#3509 [18:33] <tyteen4a03> I know what it is
#3510 [18:33] <tyteen4a03> the abbrv. confused me
#3511 [18:34] <TheNytangel> Yeah, but Morrolan can also refer to that too :P
#3512 [18:36] * Morrolan waves
#3512 [18:37] <Chris> Wave quit...
#3513 [18:37] <TheNytangel> !ping
#3514 [18:37] <GreyBot> TheNytangel Your Ping time was 0.764 seconds.
#3515 [18:38] <Chris> I don't think that greybot can accurately measure that, but eh
#3516 [18:38] <TheNytangel> Yeah huh
#3517 [18:38] <TheNytangel> It pings you
#3518 [18:38] <TheNytangel> !ping
#3519 [18:38] <GreyBot> TheNytangel Your Ping time was 0.78 seconds.
#3520 [18:38] <Kealper> .cmd del !ping
#3521 [18:38] <TheNytangel> It's getting worse..
#3522 [18:38] <TheNytangel> Lol Kealper
#3523 [18:38] <Kealper> !ping
#3524 [18:38] <GreyBot> Kealper Your Ping time was 0.25 seconds.
#3525 [18:38] * guest-545433-84307 [guest-545433-84307@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3526 [18:38] <Kealper> aww yeah
#3527 [18:38] <TheNytangel> !ping
#3528 [18:38] <TheNytangel> Please tell me that's spam protection and not me getting reset..
#3529 [18:39] <Kealper> i can see you talking :o
#3530 [18:39] <Chris> I still don't think that GreyBot can accurately measure a ping...
#3531 [18:39] <TheNytangel> Good
#3532 [18:39] <guest-545433-84307> any1 here know how to fix the too many lgin eror?
#3533 [18:39] <Kealper> 600ms
#3534 [18:39] <TheNytangel> !ping
#3535 [18:39] <guest-545433-84307> login
#3536 [18:39] <GreyBot> TheNytangel Your Ping time was 1.045 seconds.
#3537 [18:39] <TheNytangel> D:
#3538 [18:39] <Kealper> :o
#3539 [18:39] <Chris> guest-545433-84307: try again later
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#3542 [18:39] <guest-545433-84307> i have
#3543 [18:39] <TheNytangel> Kealper, stupid internet is stupid
#3544 [18:39] <guest-545433-84307> still no dice
#3545 [18:39] <Chris> guest-545433-84307: wait longer
#3546 [18:40] <TheNytangel> guest-545433-84307, check your yahtzee box
#3547 [18:40] <TheNytangel> There should be 6 in there
#3548 [18:40] <RixRip> Hey
#3549 [18:40] <Chris> yahtzee?
#3550 [18:40] <alloimjustin> Fatal error (5): write error
#3551 [18:40] <alloimjustin> ?? What is this
#3552 [18:40] <TheNytangel> alloimjustin, I'm not a programmer but.. I think it failed to write
#3553 [18:41] <TheNytangel> Chris, google it, it's a game
#3554 [18:41] <RixRip> Anyone here helps?
#3555 [18:41] <Chris> mmkay
#3556 [18:41] <alloimjustin> I have no idea still
#3557 [18:41] <TheNytangel> RixRip, no, you asked no question
#3558 [18:41] <RixRip> I know that
#3559 [18:42] * guest-545433-89970 [guest-545433-89970@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3560 [18:42] <RixRip> I don't think the possibility if of "Yes" would be possible so I'm going...
#3561 [18:42] <alloimjustin> Voxelhead: I'll reword it; fatal error (5): write error. What does that mean??
#3562 [18:42] <TheNytangel> Well..
#3563 [18:43] <TheNytangel> Ask no questions, get no answers
#3564 [18:43] <TheNytangel> alloimjustin, we need the whole error
#3565 [18:43] <Chris> alloimjustin, voxelhead is a bot...
#3566 [18:44] <alloimjustin> Ohh.. Lol I didn't know bc he called someone a jerk earlier
#3567 [18:44] <Chris> hahahahahahaaha
#3568 [18:44] <TheNytangel> ?? bot
#3569 [18:44] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, unless I'm not. I may or may not be a sock-puppet. Or a deity. No one really knows.
#3570 [18:44] <Chris> bahahaahhaa
#3571 [18:44] <Chris> I vote deity xD
#3572 [18:45] <TheNytangel> Hmm..
#3573 [18:45] <TheNytangel> My laptop has this Alt Gr button, but I have no idea what the heck it does
#3574 [18:45] <Chris> it'd be alt
#3575 [18:45] <Chris> is it beside your spacebar?
#3576 [18:45] <TheNytangel> Green alt?
#3577 [18:45] <Chris> its just alt
#3578 [18:45] <TheNytangel> No, Alt GR
#3579 [18:46] <Chris> ignore the GR xD
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#3581 [18:46] <TheNytangel> IT MAY BE IMPORTANT
#3582 [18:46] <TheNytangel> Kealper, what is this "Gr..."
#3583 [18:46] <guest-545433-89970> finnaly got it 2 work
#3584 [18:46] <guest-545433-89970> anyhow l8ers
#3585 [18:46] <Chris> wait, do you have an Alt and an AltGr on the same side of the spacebar?
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#3587 [18:47] <Iridium> evening
#3588 [18:48] <Iridium> hows help doing?
#3589 [18:48] <Chris> yeah, its been alright xD
#3590 [18:48] <TheNytangel> Chris, alt on the left side, alt gr on the right side
#3591 [18:48] <Chris> I've been pretty much idling
#3592 [18:48] <Chris> yeah, ignore it it's just alt
#3593 [18:48] <TheNytangel> NO
#3594 [18:48] <TheNytangel> ALT GR
#3595 [18:48] <Chris> offs... okay then do you have other symbols on your keyboard?
#3596 [18:49] <Iridium> actually there is a difference
#3597 [18:49] <TheNytangel> I have G1-G12
#3598 [18:49] <Iridium> if you need to type french letters (or probs other languages) you need that ALT GR
#3599 [18:49] <TheNytangel> Jk, me no have gaming keyboard
#3600 [18:49] <Iridium> letters like é and á
#3601 [18:49] <Kealper> there is not a difference on an English keyboard, but a lot of other languages have the Alt-Gr key
#3602 [18:49] <Chris> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key
#3603 [18:49] <TheNytangel> So this alt key has no use?
#3604 [18:50] <Chris> it'll just act as a normal alt key
#3605 [18:50] <Chris> hit altgr+f4 and see what happens
#3606 [18:50] <Kealper> like when i switch to the Turkish keyboard layout (long story, don't ask) the right alt (alt-gr) gives more characters :o
#3607 [18:50] <TheNytangel> Kealper, HE'S BAITING
#3608 [18:51] <Iridium> you know what i don't get
#3609 [18:51] <Iridium> why us and uk keyboards have to be different
#3610 [18:51] <Kealper> who ıs baıtıng?
#3611 [18:51] <Chris> does anybody here actually regularly use any of the alt whateverthatkeyis or ctrl on the right hand side of the keyboard? sometimes windows key too?
#3612 [18:51] <Kealper> chrıs?
#3613 [18:51] <Kealper> anywho
#3614 [18:51] <TheNytangel> Yes
#3615 [18:51] <Kealper> oh
#3616 [18:51] <Kealper> Chris: stop baiting
#3617 [18:52] <TheNytangel> <Chris> hit altgr+f4 and see what happens
#3618 [18:52] <Kealper> Chris: this isn't a fishing hole
#3619 [18:52] <Chris> xD
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#3621 [18:54] <alloimjustin> TheNytangel: It says "An error occured while loading applet. Please contact support to resolve this issue. Fatal error occured (5):Write error" This has to do with trying to play the free version of Minecraft and the screen suddenly goes black when it's almost already done loading
#3622 [18:54] <TheNytangel> alloimjustin, what free version
#3623 [18:54] <Iridium> what's the max value for this line in my .properties? view-distance=10
#3624 [18:54] <JohnEBH> Reinstall java. =P
#3625 [18:54] <JohnEBH> Classic = Free version, assuming.
#3626 [18:55] <TheNytangel> Iridium, 15
#3627 [18:55] <TheNytangel> JohnEBH, but they could be using something else..
#3628 [18:55] <JohnEBH> TheNytangel- I know, that's why I said assuming =P
#3629 [18:55] <Iridium> TheNytangel: that'll explain why i get errors when trying to set it to 100 :P
#3630 [18:55] <TheNytangel> >.>
#3631 [18:56] <TheNytangel> Iridium, there IS a minecraft wiki...
#3632 [18:56] <alloimjustin> JohnEBH: Yea, I bought the beta version but the transaction hasn't one through yet
#3633 [18:56] <Iridium> i didn't think that would list that kind of information
#3634 [18:56] <TheNytangel> Iridium, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#3635 [18:57] <Iridium> oh i see, thanks nyt
#3636 [18:58] <Chris> wait, Kealper were you just joking around or being serious?
#3637 [18:58] <JohnEBH> Chris- Are you serious?
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#3639 [18:58] <Chris> I mightn't be...
#3640 [18:58] <Chris> was that an actual warning or..?
#3641 [18:59] <JohnEBH> God... Yes it was.
#3642 [18:59] <Netti> 。
#3643 [18:59] <Netti> gah
#3644 [18:59] <Netti> Pardon me. Keyboard's funky.
#3645 [18:59] <Chris> haha
#3646 [19:00] <alloimjustin> How'd you even manage that??
#3647 [19:00] <JohnEBH> Sticky alt + Random key?
#3648 [19:00] <TheNytangel> JohnEBH, alt + 0169
#3649 [19:00] <TheNytangel> Copyright symbol :D
#3650 [19:01] <JohnEBH> That would've been nice to know...
#3651 [19:01] <JohnEBH> If I were trying to copyright something
#3652 [19:01] <JohnEBH> -.-
#3653 [19:01] <alloimjustin> lolz thats a degrees ymbol Im sre it's already copyrighted
#3654 [19:01] <TheNytangel> JohnEBH, and alt + 0174 is the tm thing, and alt + 0153 is the r thingy
#3655 [19:01] <JohnEBH> Tm Thing - Trademark, R thingy - Reserved >.>"
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#3657 [19:02] <TheNytangel> Either that or I got them all mixed up, but they will be made with one of they key combinations
#3658 [19:02] <TheNytangel> And when GreyVulpine comes on, I need his help with something
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#3660 [19:07] <JohnEBH> alloimjustin- That doesn't mean you should be using a pirated launcher -.-"
#3661 [19:07] * mib_4y0l52 [mib_4y0l52@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3662 [19:07] <JohnEBH> alloimjustin- Minecraft username?
#3663 [19:08] * JBlackthorne [JBlackthorne@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3664 [19:08] <alloimjustin> alloimjustin is my username
#3665 [19:08] <JohnEBH> !paid alloimjustin
#3666 [19:08] <JohnEBH> alloimjustin- How long ago did you buy it?
#3667 [19:08] <JohnEBH> alloimjustin- How long ago did you buy it?
#3668 [19:08] <JohnEBH> Wow...
#3669 [19:08] <JohnEBH> Woops
#3670 [19:09] <alloimjustin> Like 8 hours ago
#3671 [19:09] <blink> !paid blink348
#3672 [19:09] <JohnEBH> alloimjustin- Can take up to 3 days, be patient
#3673 [19:09] <blink> oh!
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#3675 [19:09] <alloimjustin> Ohh okay.
#3676 [19:09] <blink> That's...heh
#3677 [19:10] <alloimjustin> But is it a problem that at first it said transaction unsuccessful then said thank you for buying?
#3678 [19:10] <blink> pretty awesome. You had to have access to the user database for that bot, amirite
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#3680 [19:10] <JohnEBH> alloimjustin- It happens, don't worry
#3681 [19:10] <JohnEBH> blink- Nope
#3682 [19:10] <Old_Jon> hey i have encountered an error
#3683 [19:10] <blink> Oh
#3684 [19:10] <alloimjustin> :) okay
#3685 [19:11] <JohnEBH> Old_Jon- Specifics?
#3686 [19:11] <alloimjustin> wow that smiley looks retarded
#3687 [19:11] <blink> Can it look up other stats?
#3688 [19:11] <blink> like join date
#3689 [19:11] <alloimjustin> no offense to the programmers or whatever
#3690 [19:11] <Old_Jon> how do i past in another linke?
#3691 [19:11] <JohnEBH> blink- No
#3692 [19:11] <Old_Jon> link*
#3693 [19:12] <Old_Jon> paste*
#3694 [19:12] <JohnEBH> Old_Jon- Paste what in another link? o.o'
#3695 [19:12] <blink> just ctrl+v, if you're talking about setting up a server
#3696 [19:12] <blink> to join
#3697 [19:12] <Old_Jon> well when i join a server my .bat collected an error
#3698 [19:12] <Old_Jon> pastbin?
#3699 [19:13] <Old_Jon> link?
#3700 [19:13] <JohnEBH> Sure, send it
#3701 [19:13] <Old_Jon> ok
#3702 [19:13] <blink> oh you have to start it from java too?
#3703 [19:13] <blink> with a batch file
#3704 [19:13] <blink> I have to do that :<
#3705 [19:13] <Old_Jon> http://mibpaste.com/OlmKNm
#3706 [19:14] <alloimjustin> JohnEBH: How will I know when the transaction is accomplished? It will notify me through email right
#3707 [19:14] <alloimjustin> ?
#3708 [19:14] <Old_Jon> the what?
#3709 [19:14] <JohnEBH> alloimjustin- I don't remember... Probably, and the fact you can log in
#3710 [19:14] <Old_Jon> oh nvm
#3711 [19:14] <JohnEBH> Old_Jon- Remove the mods
#3712 [19:14] <Old_Jon> nevermind
#3713 [19:14] <alloimjustin> Kay. No more questions. Thanks
#3714 [19:14] <Old_Jon> oh ok
#3715 [19:14] <Orgasmico> TIred of niggers?
#3716 [19:14] * AuBot kicked Orgasmico from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rgasmico :Please keep it civil.)
#3717 [19:15] <Old_Jon> is that whats crashing it?
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#3719 [19:15] <JohnEBH> Old_Jon- Not sure
#3720 [19:15] <Orgasmico> Tired of nhiggers?
#3721 [19:15] <JohnEBH> Old_Jon- Most probably.
#3722 [19:15] <Orgasmico> Sick of their monkeyshines?
#3723 [19:15] <Orgasmico> We are too!
#3724 [19:15] <Orgasmico> Join Chimpout Forum!
#3725 [19:15] <JohnEBH> !kick Orgasmico Shut up
#3726 [19:15] * AuBot kicked Orgasmico from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rgasmico :You are the weakest link, goodbye! (Issued by JohnEBH with reason: Shut up))
#3727 [19:15] <Chris> orgasmico was banned from #bukkit...
#3728 [19:15] <blink> heh
#3729 [19:15] <Chris> you are the weakest link goodbye xD
#3730 [19:15] <alloimjustin> Orgasmico:Bitchslapped!
#3731 [19:15] <Old_Jon> woah man,
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#3733 [19:16] <Old_Jon> that was bad
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#3735 [19:16] <Old_Jon> haha
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#3738 [19:16] <JohnEBH> Old_Jon- You can try bukkit, I know they have a plugin to get SP mods working on MP
#3739 [19:16] <JohnEBH> Old_Jon- But you'd have to go @bukkit for help with that
#3740 [19:16] <JohnEBH> #bukkt*
#3741 [19:16] <JohnEBH> fail.
#3742 [19:17] <JohnEBH> Add an I in between the last k and t.
#3743 [19:17] <mib_0p9dy0> I'm getting a "bad drivers" error at the start up for minecraft. I did click to update my display drivers and it said that I have the latest update for that. I own a windows xp and minecraft is a simple game. What could the issue be?
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#3745 [19:18] <JohnEBH> ??> mib_0p9dy0 win/dxdiag
#3746 [19:18] <VoxelHead> mib_0p9dy0: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3747 [19:18] <VoxelHead> mib_0p9dy0: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3748 [19:18] <alloimjustin> Minecraft takes alot of data
#3749 [19:18] <JohnEBH> mib_0p9dy0- Never say minecraft is a simple game
#3750 [19:18] <JohnEBH> ??> mib_0p9dy0 retro
#3751 [19:18] <VoxelHead> mib_0p9dy0: (retro) Just because Minecraft's graphics have a retro styling does not mean that you can run the game on a Commodore 64.
#3752 [19:18] <VoxelHead> mib_0p9dy0: (retro) Minecraft will make a computer work just as hard, and in some cases harder than, many other contemporary games. There is a reason that it allocates 1GB of RAM at startup.
#3753 [19:19] <alloimjustin> It's worth it though
#3754 [19:19] <mib_0p9dy0> Bad choice of wording on my part.
#3755 [19:20] <alloimjustin> Is minecraft a 64 bit game?
#3756 [19:20] <JohnEBH> Errr... i don't know how to answer that.
#3757 [19:21] <alloimjustin> Why not>
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#3759 [19:21] <JohnEBH> I wouldn't know if it was 64bit optimized, I know it works with better on 64bit Java
#3760 [19:22] <alloimjustin> Oh well just wondering bc my laptop is like 32 I think
#3761 [19:23] <JohnEBH> mib_0p9dy0- Working on getting me that dxdiag? >.<
#3762 [19:23] <JohnEBH> alloimjustin- Right click "My computer" > Properties. Should say
#3763 [19:24] <JohnEBH> Java 7 Update 1 Released. FYI
#3764 [19:24] <JohnEBH> Only use if you know what you're doing >.>
#3765 [19:24] <alloimjustin> I have the latest java so it should still work despite the extremely low amount of bits on the laptop
#3766 [19:24] <alloimjustin> right
#3767 [19:24] <mib_0p9dy0> Yes John, just about there
#3768 [19:24] <mib_0p9dy0> http://pastebin.com/8CgBuA4S
#3769 [19:25] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine is there yet?
#3770 [19:25] <JohnEBH> mib_0p9dy0- Grabbing drivers, hope they work =P
#3771 [19:25] <JohnEBH> TheNytangel- Nope
#3772 [19:26] <mib_0p9dy0> Haha yeah let's hope so.
#3773 [19:27] <JohnEBH> mib_0p9dy0- http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=14497&ProdId=1764&lang=eng
#3774 [19:27] <alloimjustin> I have java 1.6.0_29 is that the latest?
#3775 [19:27] <JohnEBH> alloimjustin- Yup
#3776 [19:27] <alloimjustin> Awesome
#3777 [19:28] <mib_0p9dy0> Thanks for your help John, I'll let you know how it works
#3778 [19:28] <JohnEBH> mib_0p9dy0- Good luck!
#3779 [19:29] <mib_0p9dy0> I got an error telling me that driver could not be installed because it's not the right driver for this computer.
#3780 [19:29] <mib_0p9dy0> that was paraphrased
#3781 [19:30] <TheNytangel> JohnEBH, will you help?
#3782 [19:30] <mib_0p9dy0> Exact error:
#3783 [19:30] <TheNytangel> NOOO
#3784 [19:30] <TheNytangel> ??> mib_0p9dy0 pastebin
#3785 [19:30] <VoxelHead> mib_0p9dy0: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#3786 [19:30] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#3787 [19:31] <JohnEBH> TheNytangel- Dinner >.<"
#3788 [19:31] <TheNytangel> JohnEBH, no excuses, it isn't a torch job
#3789 [19:31] <JohnEBH> mib_0p9dy0- lol He'll help you ;)
#3790 [19:31] * TheNytangel needs to go do important stuff, which is why he needs GreyVulpine
#3790 [19:31] <JohnEBH> TheNytangel- If I die of malnutrition, you're responsible for my funeral
#3791 [19:31] <TheNytangel> Ok
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#3793 [19:32] <JohnEBH> No -.-
#3794 [19:32] <mib_0p9dy0> Voxel, John already set me up with new drivers. The error was upon instalation of those drivers
#3795 [19:32] <JohnEBH> Gtfo
#3796 [19:32] <TheNytangel> As long as I inherit your life's savings
#3797 [19:33] <mib_0p9dy0> But this is the link to what I sent John: http://pastebin.com/8CgBuA4S
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#3799 [19:35] <mib_0p9dy0> Anybody available?
#3800 [19:36] <TheNytangel> *sigh*
#3801 [19:36] <TheNytangel> Ok..
#3802 [19:36] <TheNytangel> What drivers did he get you
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#3804 [19:36] <mib_0p9dy0> Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Windows* XP (exe)
#3805 [19:37] <TheNytangel> Link?
#3806 [19:37] <mib_0p9dy0> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/14497/a08/win2k_xp1424.exe&lang=eng&Dwnldid=14497&ProductID=1764
#3807 [19:38] <TheNytangel> mib_0p9dy0, are you on a desktop?
#3808 [19:39] <mib_0p9dy0> Yep
#3809 [19:40] <TheNytangel> mib_0p9dy0, try this one: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/12531/a08/win2k_xp142550.zip&lang=eng&Dwnldid=12531&DownloadType=Drivers&OSFullname=Windows+XP+Professional*&ProductID=1764
#3810 [19:41] <mib_0p9dy0> Thanks I appreciate the help
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#3812 [19:43] <mib_0p9dy0> Same error about the driver not being validated
#3813 [19:44] <TheNytangel> Huh
#3814 [19:45] <TheNytangel> Hold on..
#3815 [19:47] <TheNytangel> Well
#3816 [19:47] <TheNytangel> Your computer is stubborn
#3817 [19:48] <mib_0p9dy0> Yeah I'll say..
#3818 [19:48] <mib_0p9dy0> So what are you getting that?
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#3821 [19:48] <mib_0p9dy0> getting at*?
#3822 [19:49] <TheNytangel> Well
#3823 [19:49] <TheNytangel> It don't like drivers..
#3824 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> "doesn't".
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#3826 [19:50] <mib_0p9dy0> So is there a solution that will get me in the game?
#3827 [19:50] <CW0513> Hey I'm having trouble loading the 1.9 pre release
#3828 [19:50] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, you help him.. then I needs your help in the "other" channel..
#3829 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 4
#3830 [19:51] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 4 = Minecraft 1.9-pre4 is released. We will not support it until its stable release ] ... set by [ Kealper | Thu Oct 13 20:37:18 MST 2011 ]
#3831 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: er, I'll try
#3832 [19:51] * DopeGhoti scrolls up
#3832 [19:52] * DopeGhoti looks at what he just said and starts looking for a place to hide from Bethesda's lawyers
#3832 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> mib_0p9dy0: have you tried..
#3833 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/gpu/intel
#3834 [19:53] <VoxelHead> win/gpu/intel: Some of the newer Intel graphics chipsets on Windows need Java to be limited to 800MB to avoid OpenGL errors. Try using this tool to launch Minecraft:
#3835 [19:53] <VoxelHead> win/gpu/intel: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Intel-MC.bat
#3836 [19:54] <CW0513> Hello?
#3837 [19:54] <TheNytangel> CW0513, we won't help with the pre-release
#3838 [19:54] <mib_0p9dy0> How do I "use the tool" to launch minecraft?
#3839 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> mib_0p9dy0: once you have downloaded it, run it.
#3840 [19:54] <CW0513> >:(
#3841 [19:55] <mib_0p9dy0> It opens up a new tab on my internet browser, and the tab is blank.
#3842 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> mib_0p9dy0: it should open a file download dialog
#3843 [19:56] <mib_0p9dy0> I click to open and it closes itself now
#3844 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> you probably need to add Java to your path, then
#3845 [19:57] <mib_0p9dy0> How do I do that?
#3846 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> hold on, I'll put up a tweaked version of that script.
#3847 [19:58] <mib_0p9dy0> I apologize for my stubborn computer, and my limited knowledge of computers.
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#3850 [20:05] <mib_0p9dy0> How's it coming along?
#3851 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> slowly; I'm at work and a few servers decided they needed an intervention
#3852 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> anyone else want to add Java to mib_0p9dy0's path?
#3853 [20:08] <Chris> not really xD
#3854 [20:08] <mib_0p9dy0> If you guys are having a hard time working on this, is there a way for me to get a refund on the game since it does not work?
#3855 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> ??> mib_0p9dy0 support
#3856 [20:09] <VoxelHead> mib_0p9dy0: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#3857 [20:11] <mib_0p9dy0> Thanks for trying guys, I appreciate it.
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#3862 [20:48] <kam> Herro?
#3863 [20:48] <kam> Anyone alive here?
#3864 [20:48] <Chris> yes
#3865 [20:48] <Chris> well
#3866 [20:48] <Chris> technically
#3867 [20:48] <kam> oh
#3868 [20:48] <Chris> xD what's up?
#3869 [20:49] <kam> wait
#3870 [20:51] <kam> hey'
#3871 [20:51] <kam> when i started mc it said bad video card drivers
#3872 [20:51] <kam> how do i fix that?
#3873 [20:52] <Chris> update your video card drivers from the manufacturers site
#3874 [20:53] <kam> so i have to go to the website?
#3875 [20:53] <Chris> who made your video card?
#3876 [20:53] <kam> idk
#3877 [20:53] <kam> lol
#3878 [20:53] <Chris> haha
#3879 [20:53] <kam> ima goo look it up on utube
#3880 [20:54] <Chris> hahaa okay xD
#3881 [20:56] <kam> thnx
#3882 [20:56] <Iridium> how big is the smallest rs nor latch?
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#3884 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> Iridium: a few nanometers?
#3885 [21:03] <Iridium> lol i meant in minecraft :P
#3886 [21:04] <Iridium> i've found a few 4x3x1 but they're vertical, i want a horisontal one
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#3889 [21:08] <mom> hi cant connect to minecraft.net since updating to 1.8 have deleted everything and tried to reload but says not downloaded. have redownloaded and still says not downloaded. have tried to play in browser and get white screen
#3890 [21:10] <mom> have also done womtest if anyone would like to see results
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#3893 [21:19] <lemon-rev> mom can you goto minecraft.net and login
#3894 [21:19] <mom> yes
#3895 [21:19] <lemon-rev> home page click in broswer
#3896 [21:19] <Chris> go to login.minecraft.net, what do you see
#3897 [21:20] <mom> when i click in browser i get a white page
#3898 [21:20] <lemon-rev> ok
#3899 [21:20] <lemon-rev> ??> mom win/dxdiag
#3900 [21:20] <VoxelHead> mom: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3901 [21:20] <VoxelHead> mom: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#3902 [21:20] <lemon-rev> win is between ctrl + alt
#3903 [21:23] <Scott> hey mom, are you bringing me $20 tomorrow?
#3904 [21:25] <TheBadShepperd> Scott, what have I taught you about asking for more than your allowance..
#3905 [21:25] <mom> voxelhead done the paste. now what
#3906 [21:25] <Scott> I can't make it to an ATM tomorrow.
#3907 [21:25] <Scott> and I have no cash.
#3908 [21:25] <CrusaderDeleters> paste it here, not my mom
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#3910 [21:28] <mom> it fit on the link given by VoxelHead
#3911 [21:29] <CrusaderDeleters> you got the thing into pastebin? post it here.
#3912 [21:29] <mom> http://pastebin.com/FHUWQQvH
#3913 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> wow.
#3914 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> so then you get a white page in browser? :o
#3915 [21:30] <mom> yes
#3916 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, you have a Radeon. I heard those are good cards. dunno why it's screwing up.
#3917 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Maybe it is your ram.
#3918 [21:32] <lemon-rev> CrusaderDeleters no ram is fine
#3919 [21:32] <lemon-rev> dude
#3920 [21:32] <lemon-rev> but its the video im looking up nw
#3921 [21:32] <lemon-rev> now*
#3922 [21:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Hrm, If you can close it, then it's not freezing.
#3923 [21:34] <lemon-rev> mom http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English < closest thing i can find to your video card could you try downloading and installing full software suit option 1
#3924 [21:34] <lemon-rev> or option two which should just be the drivers of the video set,
#3925 [21:35] <mom> is this under the drivers tab?
#3926 [21:36] <mom> amd catalyst
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#3928 [21:36] <lemon-rev> it should be on the page i gave you the link to just further down the page
#3929 [21:37] <mom> thanks sorry for being so impatient
#3930 [21:37] <lemon-rev> np
#3931 [21:38] <mom> its going to take a few minutes and I really miss spending time with my kids on minecraft , my boys and I are addicted
#3932 [21:40] <mom> avast wants me to open in sandbox, the ati not the game :) what do you say
#3933 [21:41] <mom> I think normally should be fine so away we go
#3934 [21:42] <lemon-rev> hm
#3935 [21:43] <lemon-rev> mom say yes
#3936 [21:43] <lemon-rev> mom was the game running before hand ?
#3937 [21:44] <mom> done but have a gearhelp issue that says EAaccessviolation
#3938 [21:44] <lemon-rev> ? how have you managed to do that, minecraft doesnt vialite anything
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#3940 [21:46] <mom> good question as this is for the ati installation pack and I've never encountered this message before
#3941 [21:47] <lemon-rev> hm, wired, i wonder why its trying to access an ea account for sme strange reasion
#3942 [21:47] <mom> do i have to sign out to restart my computer or can i save the page and come back after finishing the installation
#3943 [21:48] <lemon-rev> mom, it depends on the broswer your useing but yu can always come back if it wants you to restart then its best if you do
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#3949 [22:04] <mom> hi again couldn't come back to page right away but still could not connect to minecraft.net in launcher and got a different white page with an error message in browser should i paste the new info in the same pastebin as before or try the one at the bottom of this page
#3950 [22:06] <Chris> what do you get on https://login.minecraft.net
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#3952 [22:07] <mom> http://mibpaste.com/LJUP1D
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#3954 [22:07] <alexpja> hello?
#3955 [22:08] <Chris> Hi
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#3957 [22:08] <alexpja> i tried to use my credit card on a diff acc where i used the wrong payment method, and it was disabled, then tried alexpja and disabled...
#3958 [22:08] <alexpja> um, why?
#3959 [22:09] <alexpja> too many incorrect attempts
#3960 [22:09] <alexpja> ?
#3961 [22:09] <lemon-rev> ok mom howd you go after a reboot ?
#3962 [22:09] <Chris> ??< support
#3963 [22:09] <alexpja> idk who to contact for support :P
#3964 [22:09] <Chris> ??> alexpja support
#3965 [22:09] <VoxelHead> alexpja: (support) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#3966 [22:10] <alexpja> ty
#3967 [22:10] <mom> lemon-rev just posted above the same issues offline new in browser white page with java console pasted in link
#3968 [22:11] <lemon-rev> yea i saw that, if you goto java.com < and click on download does it allow you to update at all ?
#3969 [22:12] <mom> just a minute while i try it
#3970 [22:12] <lemon-rev> np
#3971 [22:14] <mom> says i have all recommended updates
#3972 [22:14] <lemon-rev> ok thanks
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#3974 [22:14] <lemon-rev> mom can you try one more thing i have from vox < btw vox is a robot
#3975 [22:14] <lemon-rev> ??> mom win/reinst
#3976 [22:14] <VoxelHead> mom: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3977 [22:14] <VoxelHead> mom: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3978 [22:16] <mom> already did that before do you want me to try it again as it wont let me sign in to minecraft.net unless I'm not using the launcher
#3979 [22:17] <lemon-rev> well the launcher will work if we can get the broswer version to work as well
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#3981 [22:18] <asherlite> mom?
#3982 [22:19] <asherlite> hey so are you guys goin got support help for the 1.9 per-release? or am i just wasting my breathe here?
#3983 [22:19] <Chris> depends what the problem is
#3984 [22:19] <asherlite> my ubuntu is makin hard for me to plat it.
#3985 [22:19] <lemon-rev> chris white screen
#3986 [22:20] <Chris> should do
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#3988 [22:20] <Chris> I don't really know
#3989 [22:20] <Chris> wait
#3990 [22:20] <Chris> ignore the should do
#3991 [22:20] <Chris> asher, try using debian not ubuntu
#3992 [22:20] <Chris> lemon, do you get any errors?
#3993 [22:20] <lemon-rev> with mc , no
#3994 [22:21] <asherlite> you see, i downloaded the jar, but I don't really know what to do from there, and ubuntu is usually fine, i just need a nudge in the right direction.
#3995 [22:21] <mom> re downloaded again and still cannot connect to minecraft.net and it says not downloaded and i'm still getting white screen in browser
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#3997 [22:21] <asherlite> i tried java -jar, that didn't work
#3998 [22:21] <Chris> asher, open terminal
#3999 [22:21] <Chris> mom, lemon-rev I don't know, I usually just idle in here
#4000 [22:22] <asherlite> yeah, should i ch mod?
#4001 [22:22] <lemon-rev> mom if you goto minecraft.net can you connect and login ?
#4002 [22:22] <Chris> asher, shouldn't need to
#4003 [22:22] <asherlite> and terminal is up.
#4004 [22:22] <mib_1y7vk8> I have a problem with my minecraft (obviously). when i try to log into the desktop download thing or whatever, i try to log in and it says that it was an incorrect login, but below the sign in it says that it isnt downloaded. i had previously tried to delete it and re-download the jar. but now it wont work and i can't retrace it. what should i do?
#4005 [22:22] <Chris> "cd <directory where you downloaded minecraft.jar>"
#4006 [22:22] <Chris> mib, when you log in, it'll download
#4007 [22:23] <Chris> "java -jar *inecraft.jar
#4008 [22:23] <lemon-rev> mom when its downloaded you should see a green bar zip across the screen with either files updateing or it goes to almost 99% then you should see mojang screen yea ?
#4009 [22:23] <asherlite> it's telling me that cd is not a command, and it's in my desktop
#4010 [22:23] <mib_1y7vk8> i have been trying to log in, and each time it says that there have been too many logins. and i didnt try to log in before hand.
#4011 [22:24] <Chris> mib, try agian in an hour
#4012 [22:24] <mom> from the home page yes but not from the launcher. i can download the launcher again but still cannot connect from the launcher. and cannot play in the browser as i get a plain white screen. although the white screen is now in minecrafts homepage and not its own page
#4013 [22:24] <Chris> asher, type "cd" see what happens
#4014 [22:24] <lemon-rev> mom is your antivirus program active and if so can you check it see if minecraft might be blocked
#4015 [22:24] <asherlite> it goes to another line, i don't know what that is called but it's something.
#4016 [22:24] <Chris> minecraft website was down last time I checked
#4017 [22:25] <Chris> oh its back
#4018 [22:25] <mom> will not update or connect to minecraft.net in launcher
#4019 [22:25] <Chris> mom, what's the reason it won't connect
#4020 [22:25] <Chris> does it only say "Could not connect to minecraft.net" or does it say something else
#4021 [22:26] <csssuf> asher: was there any output after typing cd?
#4022 [22:26] <asherlite> nope.
#4023 [22:26] <Chris> hmm...
#4024 [22:26] <Chris> that's really really bad...
#4025 [22:27] <asherlite> what why?
#4026 [22:27] <Chris> are there any alts to cd? i've only ever used cd
#4027 [22:27] <Chris> cause cd is a really important command...
#4028 [22:28] <asherlite> what does it do?
#4029 [22:28] * Shoeswitch [Shoeswitch@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4030 [22:28] <csssuf> actually
#4031 [22:28] <csssuf> just typing cd
#4032 [22:28] <mom> i dont see if it is blocked anywhere
#4033 [22:28] <csssuf> will change you to the home directory
#4034 [22:28] <csssuf> so no output is normal
#4035 [22:28] <Chris> asher, type "java -jar /home/<username/Desktop/*inecraft.jar"
#4036 [22:28] <Chris> that *might* work
#4037 [22:28] <Shoeswitch> This is the 2nd time in two nights that it tells me bad login. :\ But if I wait a minute It lets me back on.
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#4039 [22:29] <mom> Chris, yes it only says"Could not connect to minecraft.net"
#4040 [22:29] <Shoeswitch> This ever happen to anybody else?
#4041 [22:29] <Chris> mom, okay, have you been to login.minecraft.net?
#4042 [22:29] <Chris> Shoeswitch, retype your username and password and try again
#4043 [22:29] <lemon-rev> mom the file you get from minecraft.net to download the launcher did you rename it to say minecraft.exe or did it just download as an exe ?
#4044 [22:29] <mom> yes
#4045 [22:30] <Chris> mom, did it say bad login?
#4046 [22:30] <asherlite> failed to load main-class manifest attribute.
#4047 [22:31] <mom> it just downloaded as minecraft.exe and it just said could not connect to minecraft.net
#4048 [22:31] <Chris> asherlite,
#4049 [22:31] <mom> only in launcher
#4050 [22:31] <Chris> oops
#4051 [22:31] <Chris> xD
#4052 [22:31] <Shoeswitch> Didnt have to do that, just started working again. Thanks though.
#4053 [22:31] <asherlite> yes chris?
#4054 [22:31] <Chris> accidentally hit enter sorry
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#4056 [22:32] <Chris> asher, type "java -cp /home/<user>/Desktop/Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#4057 [22:32] <lemon-rev> mom minecraft is having troubles this week with logins but you could keep on trying have you seen any files redownload from the client when doing a reinstall of minecraft ?
#4058 [22:32] <Sorick> hey Kealper, you here?
#4059 [22:32] <mom> no
#4060 [22:32] <Kealper> i am now
#4061 [22:32] <Kealper> lol
#4062 [22:33] <Sorick> ^^
#4063 [22:33] <Sorick> have you had fun with my map?
#4064 [22:33] <lemon-rev> mom, do you know how to get to the .minecraft folder and can you tell me what folders are in there ?
#4065 [22:33] <mom> cant play offline as it says it is not downloaded
#4066 [22:33] <lemon-rev> thats what im fearing
#4067 [22:34] <Kealper> unfortunately i had forgot about it, i was ghettocamping the last few days, and i just got back today :/
#4068 [22:34] <asherlite> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/LauncherFrame... then it says cused by java stuff
#4069 [22:34] <Kealper> although now that you reminded me...i can check it out later tonight
#4070 [22:34] <mom> no files in there as i deleted them to fix another issue I can restore them but cant play as it closes after start up
#4071 [22:34] <Chris> asher, you using Java VM or OpenJDK?
#4072 [22:34] <Sorick> np, I tried clearing the chunk but it doesnt work
#4073 [22:34] <Kealper> :/
#4074 [22:34] <asherlite> i think open jdk
#4075 [22:34] <Sorick> :(
#4076 [22:34] <lemon-rev> hm
#4077 [22:35] <lemon-rev> mom your broswer should be downlloading, them what broswer do you play or are trying to login with on your computer >?
#4078 [22:36] <Sorick> anyway, i
#4079 [22:36] <Sorick> i'm gonna start a new server cause this map really seems to be lost :(
#4080 [22:36] <asherlite> i think open jdk
#4081 [22:37] <Kealper> Sorick: well, best of luck that the same fate does not happen to the new one :/
#4082 [22:37] <Sorick> do you know if they fixed the bug that crashed the server when you shift-clicked in a chest in 1.9pre?
#4083 [22:37] <asherlite> chris!?
#4084 [22:37] * |Kiikun| baps asher for using openjdk instead of sun-java-bin
#4084 [22:38] <asherlite> thank god your here!
#4085 [22:38] <Chris> does sun-java even work on ubuntu?
#4086 [22:38] <Kealper> Sorick: as far as i'm aware, it should be fixed...what version was that in? because the latest 1.9 is pre4
#4087 [22:38] <|Kiikun|> TheNytangel: Asher's calling for you :P
#4088 [22:38] <asherlite> hecks yes it does.
#4089 [22:38] <TheNytangel> Who
#4090 [22:38] <TheNytangel> What
#4091 [22:38] <mom> firefox
#4092 [22:38] * mib_oqnk8j [mib_oqnk8j@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4093 [22:38] <lemon-rev> hm
#4094 [22:38] <|Kiikun|> erm.. nm
#4095 [22:38] <Sorick> 1.8.1 and I believe it had something to do with what happened to the map
#4096 [22:38] <|Kiikun|> :P
#4097 [22:38] <TheNytangel> |Kiikun|, not me, Chris
#4098 [22:39] <asherlite> no i was calling for the dude named chris in ircland.
#4099 [22:39] <Chris> I have no clue...
#4100 [22:39] <lemon-rev> mom have you still got ie installed = internet explorer ?
#4101 [22:39] <|Kiikun|> TheNytangel: yeah :P chock it up to me tryign to confuse you :P
#4102 [22:39] <Kealper> Sorick: hmm...shift-clicking stuff into chests seems fine on my 1.8.1 server...
#4103 [22:39] <TheNytangel> lemon-rev, I do :)
#4104 [22:39] <Sorick> :(
#4105 [22:39] <mom> took out saves and texture packs folder and restored other files and can play new games
#4106 [22:39] <Sorick> lol
#4107 [22:39] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: 1.8 borked it when you overfilled chest or inventory
#4108 [22:39] <lemon-rev> TheNytangel ??? im talking to mom :P
#4109 [22:39] <mom> yes I'll try it ie
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#4111 [22:40] <TheNytangel> lemon-rev, I read the question
#4112 [22:40] <lemon-rev> ty mom
#4113 [22:40] <Kealper> |Kiikun|: ahh, never tried doing it on a full chest lol
#4114 [22:40] <lemon-rev> i see ,
#4115 [22:40] <Sorick> ya, that's what I meant
#4116 [22:40] <lemon-rev> ....
#4117 [22:40] <asherlite> hey kiikun, wanna help me with the 1.9?
#4118 [22:40] <joe> Hi, im running 1.93 and i want to get back to 1.8 so i can start a bukkit server. how can i do that
#4119 [22:40] <TheNytangel> joe, force an update
#4120 [22:40] <joe> ok
#4121 [22:40] <|Kiikun|> ??> joe forceupdate
#4122 [22:40] <VoxelHead> joe: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4123 [22:40] <Sorick> anyway. gotta go
#4124 [22:40] <VoxelHead> joe: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#4125 [22:40] <Sorick> see yall
#4126 [22:41] * Kealper waves and goes back to programming
#4126 [22:41] <Sorick> ^^
#4127 [22:41] <joe> right now im useing the 1.93 jar with a bat so i dont run out of mem. should i re download minecraft and forceupdate
#4128 [22:42] <TheNytangel> joe, are you using windows?
#4129 [22:42] <joe> yes
#4130 [22:42] <TheNytangel> ??> joe win/reinst
#4131 [22:42] <VoxelHead> joe: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#4132 [22:42] <VoxelHead> joe: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#4133 [22:43] <|Kiikun|> asherlite: using 1.9 shoudl just be tossing the 1.9 jar over the 1.8.1 jar
#4134 [22:43] <asherlite> ooooh! that makes a ton of sense!
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#4136 [22:45] <CW0513> Hi my minecraft wont load and just shows a black or white screen. WTF is this and wut does this mean?
#4137 [22:45] <mom> same problem in ie and windows claims that my virtual memory is too low and is readjusting
#4138 [22:45] <lemon-rev> hm
#4139 [22:45] <mom> error. click for details doesnt give any details like firefox did
#4140 [22:46] <lemon-rev> can anyone else have any help for mom, ie shes done an update for video cards culd be too old not sure, also tryed clearing mc / updateing java / she has a white screen anyone lese have any idears ?
#4141 [22:46] <CW0513> Hi my minecraft wont load and just shows a black or white screen. WTF is this and wut does this mean?
#4142 [22:46] <lemon-rev> ok mom thanks, im out of idars of why its happing
#4143 [22:46] <|Kiikun|> lemon-rev: windows username ok?
#4144 [22:47] <CW0513> Hi my minecraft wont load and just shows a black or white screen. WTF is this and wut does this mean?
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#4146 [22:47] <asherlite> it keeps telling me that my main-class manifest or something.
#4147 [22:48] <CW0513> H E L L O ? ! ? I S A N Y O N E T H E R E ? ! ?
#4148 [22:48] <|Kiikun|> ??< CW0513 dont/shout
#4149 [22:49] <mom> ok this cannot login problem has been going on since 1.8 update but I'll just have to see if i can add worlds one at a time to see if we can play some of them.
#4150 [22:49] <|Kiikun|> ??< CW0513 patience
#4151 [22:49] <|Kiikun|> ??<< CW0513 patience
#4152 [22:49] <|Kiikun|> :/
#4153 [22:49] <mom> thanks for all your time. Good night
#4154 [22:49] <CW0513> I havent recived an answer in 5 minutes.
#4155 [22:49] <Chris> Kiikun, other greater than sign
#4156 [22:49] <|Kiikun|> oh. derp.. ok im tired too
#4157 [22:49] <Chris> oh no 5 minutes, whatever will I do?
#4158 [22:49] <CW0513> Piss off Chris...
#4159 [22:49] <Chris> ??> CW0153 dont/shout
#4160 [22:49] <VoxelHead> CW0153: (dont/shout) There is no need to yell. The acoustics in here are wonderful.
#4161 [22:49] <Chris> ??> CW0153 patience
#4162 [22:49] <VoxelHead> CW0153: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#4163 [22:50] <VoxelHead> CW0153: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#4164 [22:50] <|Kiikun|> ??> CW0513 attitude
#4165 [22:50] <VoxelHead> CW0513: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#4166 [22:50] <VoxelHead> CW0513: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#4167 [22:51] <CW0513> I came 4 help! Not critisizim!
#4168 [22:51] <Chris> CW0513 then cool it
#4169 [22:51] <|Kiikun|> CW0513: also.. black screen means you have a problem with either java, video drivers, or minecraft itself.
#4170 [22:51] <|Kiikun|> or some other oddball error
#4171 [22:52] <CW0513> Thank you. Thats all I needed. :)
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#4173 [22:54] <reedlepee> hey
#4174 [22:54] * |Kiikun| goes to die sideways
#4174 [22:54] <reedlepee> can someone help me
#4175 [22:55] <|Kiikun|> ?? ask
#4176 [22:55] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4177 [22:55] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4178 [22:56] <reedlepee> i made a mine craft account and donwload the thing but when i login it says i cant
#4179 [22:56] <|Kiikun|> 'Can't connect to minecraft.net'?
#4180 [22:57] <reedlepee> no i can but i cant login to the minecraft launcher
#4181 [22:57] <|Kiikun|> :/
#4182 [22:58] <|Kiikun|> im asking if thats the error the launcher gives
#4183 [22:58] <reedlepee> yes
#4184 [22:58] <|Kiikun|> windows username have an ! in it?
#4185 [22:59] <reedlepee> i login and it says not premiun
#4186 [22:59] <reedlepee> premium
#4187 [22:59] <|Kiikun|> reedlepee: did you PAY for minecraft? or just made an account?
#4188 [22:59] <reedlepee> i did the free one
#4189 [23:00] <reedlepee> i didt pay
#4190 [23:00] <|Kiikun|> beta isnt free. classic is free, but doesnt have a client
#4191 [23:00] <|Kiikun|> the client = beta = need to pay
#4192 [23:00] <|Kiikun|> ?? premium
#4193 [23:00] <VoxelHead> premium: Both Alpha and Beta premium users will get bug fixes, updates, patches, and the final release of the game for free. This has not changed. The only difference between the two is the potential aspect of future expansions beyond final release. Alpha users were promised these future expansions for free, while people that bought it during Beta were not.
#4194 [23:00] <|Kiikun|> erm.. nm that one
#4195 [23:00] <reedlepee> so what do i need to do to play
#4196 [23:00] * mike53661 [mike53661@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4197 [23:01] <TheNytangel> $21
#4198 [23:01] <|Kiikun|> reedlepee: to play Beta, you need to buy the game. to play Classic (which is free) you play via the webpage
#4199 [23:01] <reedlepee> for free
#4200 [23:01] <mike53661> can somone plz check if my 1.8.1 server is up my ip is michaelsloan.zapto.org
#4201 [23:01] <Chris> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
#4202 [23:01] <TheNytangel> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
#4203 [23:01] <TheNytangel> Lol
#4204 [23:01] <Chris> haha
#4205 [23:01] <Chris> who won there?
#4206 [23:01] <Chris> me?
#4207 [23:01] <TheNytangel> You
#4208 [23:01] <Chris> "D
#4209 [23:01] <Chris> :D**
#4210 [23:02] <mike53661> ok ty
#4211 [23:02] <mike53661> i need to fix it lol
#4212 [23:02] <Chris> yes you do xD
#4213 [23:02] <reedlepee> well can someone help me
#4214 [23:02] <|Kiikun|> reedlepee: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play
#4215 [23:02] <reedlepee> ok
#4216 [23:02] <reedlepee> thanks do i go on it
#4217 [23:03] <TheNytangel> Nawww
#4218 [23:03] <TheNytangel> That's not at all how you play it
#4219 [23:03] <|Kiikun|> reedlepee: no. i gave you the link because i wanted to confuse you ~.~ what do you think
#4220 [23:04] <|Kiikun|> </sarcasm>
#4221 [23:04] <reedlepee> ok
#4222 [23:04] <reedlepee> its not working
#4223 [23:04] <|Kiikun|> ??> reedlepee getjava
#4224 [23:04] <VoxelHead> reedlepee: (getjava) http://www.java.com/en/download/
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#4226 [23:06] <TheNytangel> Darn you dog, stop tickling my foot
#4227 [23:06] <reedlepee> whats the download for
#4228 [23:07] <TheNytangel> ...........
#4229 [23:07] <TheNytangel> reedlepee, java
#4230 [23:07] <reedlepee> i know but foe what for
#4231 [23:07] <TheNytangel> To play minecraft..?
#4232 [23:07] <reedlepee> ok
#4233 [23:08] <reedlepee> hanks
#4234 [23:08] <reedlepee> thank
#4235 [23:08] <reedlepee> s
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#4237 [23:09] <mike53661> can you plz check my server now
#4238 [23:09] <|Kiikun|> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
#4239 [23:09] <mike53661> ty
#4240 [23:09] <Chris> yep works fine
#4241 [23:09] <|Kiikun|> :P
#4242 [23:09] <joe> im trying to start a server but using both minecraft and bukkit servers whenever i run them i get weird spam in the cmd/console
#4243 [23:09] <mike53661> my ip on my pc changed
#4244 [23:09] <Chris> joe #bukkit
#4245 [23:09] <Chris> what's the spam
#4246 [23:10] <joe> ok
#4247 [23:10] <joe> just a seck
#4248 [23:10] <joe> it whips by so fast
#4249 [23:11] * mib_6vwczp [mib_6vwczp@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4250 [23:11] <mib_6vwczp> ok
#4251 [23:11] <mib_6vwczp> hey
#4252 [23:11] <Chris> hello
#4253 [23:11] <joe> at net.minecraft.server.PropertyManager.a(PropertyManager.java:51)
#4254 [23:12] <joe> and the same thing again but 59
#4255 [23:12] <joe> and it repeats both of them hundreds of times a second
#4256 [23:12] * mib_cz5l1b [mib_cz5l1b@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4257 [23:13] <Chris> joe, Stop your server, move your server.log out of the craftbukkit directory. Start your server, let it load completely, then stop it. A new server.log will be created, please pastie it.
#4258 [23:13] <mib_6vwczp> hey am reedlepee and i logout and it gave me a new name so what do i do after the download java
#4259 [23:13] <Chris> pastie.org
#4260 [23:13] <Chris> ./nick reedlepee
#4261 [23:13] <joe> no dir was created for bukkit
#4262 [23:14] <Chris> what?
#4263 [23:14] <Chris> the directory that bukkit is in
#4264 [23:14] <mib_6vwczp> hey i am reedlepee and than i logout and they gave me a new name so what do i do after i doanwload java
#4265 [23:14] <joe> bukkit did not create a log
#4266 [23:14] <Chris> ./nick reedlepee
#4267 [23:14] <Chris> joe, are you on windows?
#4268 [23:14] <Church452> so how do we get support? pm one of the people in the side bar?
#4269 [23:14] <joe> yes
#4270 [23:15] <Church452> kk thx
#4271 [23:15] <Chris> Church, just ask the q
#4272 [23:15] <Chris> don't pm people
#4273 [23:15] <Chris> the yes wasn't for you
#4274 [23:15] <Chris> ?? dont/pm
#4275 [23:15] <VoxelHead> dont/pm: We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#4276 [23:15] <mib_6vwczp> i need help
#4277 [23:15] <mib_6vwczp> fjka'f
#4278 [23:15] <mib_6vwczp> f
#4279 [23:15] <mib_6vwczp> wafa
#4280 [23:15] <joe> chris yes i am running windows
#4281 [23:16] <Chris> joe what is in the bat file that you should be starting it with?
#4282 [23:16] * mib_6vwczp [mib_6vwczp@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#4283 [23:16] <joe> chris java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar craftbukkit-0.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar nogui
#4284 [23:16] <Chris> okay, try lowering the Xms for one...
#4285 [23:16] <Chris> actually
#4286 [23:16] <Church452> I had many failed attempts at getting a credit card to work and when i went to try again it said that the card was accepted and that in an hour my account would be ok. i paid with a visa card and it has been around 2 hours and i was wondering if this is normal or if the transaction didnt work properly.
#4287 [23:17] <Chris> remove -Xms1024M and replace it with -Xincgc
#4288 [23:17] <Chris> Church, give it a couple more hours
#4289 [23:17] <Chris> ??< index
#4290 [23:17] <Church452> kk
#4291 [23:18] <joe> chris same thing text is still wizzing by
#4292 [23:18] <Chris> how recently did you download bukkit?
#4293 [23:18] <Church452> Also does it send the email to the email from the card or the email from my profile?
#4294 [23:18] <Chris> email from your profile
#4295 [23:18] <Church452> ok thanks
#4296 [23:19] <joe> just a few min ago
#4297 [23:19] <Chris> do you know which build number that is?
#4298 [23:19] <joe> 1185?
#4299 [23:20] <Chris> okay, you'll need to update to 1337
#4300 [23:21] <joe> its a bit deceiving because they have the same filename
#4301 [23:21] <Chris> they always have...
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#4303 [23:22] <joe> geese every time i DL it, it says i cant move it becasue it says java is using it but i ever ran it and i have to restart my comp, brb
#4304 [23:23] <Chris> mmkay
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#4306 [23:26] <asherlite> okay 1.9? what are the steps for ubuntu users?
#4307 [23:26] <asherlite> hell?
#4308 [23:26] <asherlite> *hello?
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#4311 [23:27] <joe> chris still broken
#4312 [23:27] <Chris> joe, might wanna ask in #bukkit
#4313 [23:27] <joe> ok bye
#4314 [23:28] <asherlite> i am under the impression that i have to do something to the bin?
#4315 [23:28] <joe> the thing is that its not bukkit, i get the same thing with the minecraft_server.exe
#4316 [23:28] <|Kiikun|> asherlite: take the minecraft.jar and put it in .minecraft/bin/
#4317 [23:28] <joe> different message but the text is wizzing by
#4318 [23:28] <asherlite> okay.
#4319 [23:28] <|Kiikun|> asherlite: backup the minecraft.jar there so you can play 1.8.1 again
#4320 [23:29] <|Kiikun|> asherlite: does this mean i can explore your tower since you wont be playing 1.8 anymore? :P
#4321 [23:33] <asherlite> .... you vould've explored before, and i just want to play on this other server for a bit. i don't even think my computer can do 1.9 until it actually comes out.
#4322 [23:34] <|Kiikun|> asherlite: i havent since youve added the trees at the top
#4323 [23:34] * |Kiikun| crashed minecraft with /ex 1000
#4323 [23:34] <asherlite> i can't take this anymore... i hate linux, and ubuntu, and hp pavillion for making this laptop.
#4324 [23:38] <joe> ok ppl at #bukkit are not nice
#4325 [23:38] <iR1sH> @asher: which laptop?
#4326 [23:39] <asherlite> my laptop that i'm using and sucks.
#4327 [23:39] <iR1sH> Howso? Is there something I can do?
#4328 [23:39] <Thrae> HP make laptops for business use, not gaming. And even that is Lenovo.
#4329 [23:39] <asherlite> yeah i know all about how hard it is to game on this thing.
#4330 [23:40] <Chris> sorry I referred you there joe, people are usually nicer...
#4331 [23:40] <iR1sH> I've never understood gaming on a laptop. I did use my powerbook G4 for a couple years as a backup...but not primary.
#4332 [23:40] <clarjon1> http://tosh.comedycentral.com/blog/files/2011/10/teacher-joke.jpg
#4333 [23:40] <Thrae> If it's an Intel graphics chipset you actually might better support for OpenGL on Windows.
#4334 [23:40] <asherlite> also i can't get to my texturepack folder anymore, i think the whole 1.9 ordeal f'd it up.
#4335 [23:40] <Thrae> OpenGL sucks with Intel, period.
#4336 [23:41] <Thrae> I mean Intel sucks with OpenGL, period.
#4337 [23:41] <asherlite> and i game on my laptop because my desktop is from the ninries and slower than molasses.
#4338 [23:41] <Chris> hahha clarjon
#4339 [23:41] <Chris> tosh.o <3
#4340 [23:41] <asherlite> *nineties
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#4342 [23:44] <joe> fixed, i do not have permission to write where the server was being run from
#4343 [23:45] <joe> somehow
#4344 [23:45] <joe> ttfn
#4345 [23:45] <asherlite> can somebody help me get into my texturepack folder, i press the button and nothing happens.
#4346 [23:46] <Thrae> asherlite: Are these HD texture packs? Since of course 1.9 comes un-modded for HD.
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#4348 [23:46] <McPlusPlus> [MC-Updates] Feed is empty!
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#4351 [23:47] <asherlite> im using default right now and i havent even gotten 1.9 to work yet, i have to use a script to open minecraft, and i think that the right .jar was deleted, so i tried redownloading it but it did not work.
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#4353 [23:50] <mr_evil> Hello
#4354 [23:50] <asherlite> okay my computer is just generally messed up i guess because now i can't even open my trash can... i'm so pi$$ed!
#4355 [23:50] <mr_evil> I need help recovering my account
#4356 [23:50] <Thrae> asherlite: Well for Linux they named the minecraft.jar launcher and minecraft.jar game archive the same thing, and it's the game archive, not the launcher, you're replacing. The game archive is what's in the bin directory.
#4357 [23:50] <Thrae> ??> mr_evil accounts
#4358 [23:50] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#4359 [23:51] <mr_evil> thanks
#4360 [23:51] <Thrae> mr_evil: We can help you find the right place on the www.minecraft.net website. What's your problem?
#4361 [23:51] <mr_evil> Well im trying minecraft.net/resetpassword and im not getting the email
#4362 [23:51] <mr_evil> i've sent it so many times and waited a day or so
#4363 [23:52] <Thrae> mr_evil: OK, go to http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename and enter in the email address you think is linked to the account.
#4364 [23:52] <asherlite> well so long, i'm going to go break my laptop over my knee.
#4365 [23:52] <asherlite> *CRUNCH*
#4366 [23:52] <mr_evil> damnit, i deleted the transaction
#4367 [23:53] <mr_evil> k Thrae
#4368 [23:54] <mr_evil> No email yet
#4369 [23:54] <Thrae> mr_evil: Have you double-checked your Spam folder?
#4370 [23:55] <mr_evil> Where should the email be comming from so i can safe zone it or whatever, its not in the spam
#4371 [23:56] <Thrae> mr_evil: @minecraft.net , might as well do @mojang.com too
#4372 [23:56] <mr_evil> i need the first half also :/
#4373 [23:56] <mr_evil> wait, maybe i dont
#4374 [23:57] <Thrae> mr_evil: Usually you don't, but it should be noreply@minecraft.net
#4375 [23:59] <mr_evil> still nothing