#1 [00:00] <Gazionetadmin> will that big fixed in the full version
#2 [00:02] <Iridium> how do i find an ocean if there isn't one on the map?
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#4 [00:03] <Iridium> would TNT and buckets be the best way?
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#6 [00:13] <|Kiikun|> iri.... tnt cannon yourself? um.... id sugest not.
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#8 [00:13] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: just wander. theres usually alot of large watermasses. not ALL oceans
#9 [00:14] <Iridium> i've explored the whole map though
#10 [00:14] * |Kiikun| has seen only a handful of 'waterworld' areas in maps
#10 [00:14] <|Kiikun|> . . .
#11 [00:14] <Iridium> only found some rivers and a couple of lakes
#12 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: . . .soo... youve explored over 4 times the surface of the earth in under a month?
#13 [00:15] * GreyVulpine thought it was 8
#13 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> ok.. 8?
#14 [00:15] <Iridium> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Map_%28Item%29
#15 [00:15] <|Kiikun|> oh.. the map item :P
#16 [00:16] <|Kiikun|> go beyond the map range.. its not THAT large :P
#17 [00:16] <Iridium> wont i get lost then?
#18 [00:16] <|Kiikun|> compass! :D
#19 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> and stuff to make new maps :P
#20 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> and a bed probabbly
#21 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> oh.. and a towel. a towel is a must.
#22 [00:17] <Scott> Any of you guys want to act like fools with me and a few others from #minecraft? We're going to raid servers and freak people out.
#23 [00:18] <Iridium> yes
#24 [00:18] <|Kiikun|> Scott: not grief? just raid?
#25 [00:18] <Scott> not grief
#26 [00:18] <Scott> just raid :P
#27 [00:18] <Scott> It's always fun to freak people out with an influx of people.
#28 [00:18] <|Kiikun|> esplain 'raid' :P
#29 [00:18] <Scott> oh you know all join at once, scream about randomness
#30 [00:18] <Scott> etc
#31 [00:18] * |Kiikun| is ALL ABOUT randomness!
#31 [00:18] <Iridium> Odin just everyone shout CREEPERS
#32 [00:19] <Scott> So anyways if you want to , join #minecraft :P
#33 [00:19] <Iridium> aww copy paste ommits the '<>'s
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#39 [00:39] <Mastrerryu> im having a horrible issue of it saying "to many failed logins" but the thing is i just got off of work, came home, and i haven't allowed anyone else to use the computer but myself and it was my first login and i have the password saved.
#40 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> Try the in-browser client
#41 [00:39] <Mastrerryu> I've tried everything, another user (my friend) has told me what to try and nothing has worked.
#42 [00:40] <Mastrerryu> <.> its driving me crazy kinda because i've had no issues at all and now its just dog piled me.
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#44 [00:47] <Mastrerryu> not a thing.. : (
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#53 [01:33] <mib_7c7e8r> How do you save on minecraft classic?
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#55 [01:36] <|Kiikun|> mib_7c7e8r: esc and save in menu i think
#56 [01:38] <mib_7c7e8r> that dosen't work but thanks anyway. When you buy minecraft is their another version of classic where you can save?
#57 [01:39] <TheNoodle> You know, I think there is. Though you probably won't play classic much after buying the beta.
#58 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes, creative mode is in beta
#59 [01:42] <mib_7c7e8r> thanks
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#61 [01:46] <smerft> I dont know if I should buy minecraft my pc cant even handle the classic minecraft, whats wrong with it?
#62 [01:47] <smerft> hello?
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#69 [02:22] <Gazionetadmin> hey how do i get slimes to spawn guys?
#70 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Only certain chunks are randomly marked as slime-spawn enabled
#71 [02:24] <SinZ> and in those chunks, its underground only
#72 [02:24] <SinZ> either 32 down, or 16 down
#73 [02:25] <Gazionetadmin> what kind of chunks
#74 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> completely random
#75 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> See http://mcslimes.appspot.com/
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#77 [02:36] <Gazionetadmin> will notch make slimes not so rare?
#78 [02:37] <Chris> doubt it
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#80 [02:37] <Gazionetadmin> i know it corses
#81 [02:37] <Gazionetadmin> *courses lots of lag
#82 [02:37] <Chris> causes**
#83 [02:41] <Gazionetadmin> yeah that
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#88 [03:05] <Iridium> anyone here good with redstone?
#89 [03:06] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: yo!
#90 [03:06] <Iridium> hai
#91 [03:06] <Iridium> any chance you could jump onto my server and help me out with these doors?
#92 [03:06] * |Kiikun| HATES plutionium :/
#92 [03:06] <Iridium> all i need is an rs nor latch and i'm done
#93 [03:06] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: vertical or flat?
#94 [03:07] <Iridium> flat
#95 [03:07] <|Kiikun|> compact or dont matter?
#96 [03:07] <Iridium> preferably compact
#97 [03:07] <Iridium> but so long as it works i don't see it'd make much difference
#98 [03:08] <|Kiikun|> [wire][block with wire][torch on block]
#99 [03:08] <|Kiikun|> [torch on block][block with wire][wire]
#100 [03:08] <Iridium> bugger me that is compact
#101 [03:09] <Iridium> where do the inputs and outputs go?
#102 [03:09] <|Kiikun|> inputs are the blocks. outputs are torches
#103 [03:09] <|Kiikun|> the inputs are NOT isolated. you will get backflow in power
#104 [03:09] <|Kiikun|> you can fix that by makign it 3x3 :P
#105 [03:11] <Iridium> is the torches on the side of the blocks?
#106 [03:12] <|Kiikun|> yes. that all one level except the wire on top of the blocks
#107 [03:13] <Iridium> that's weird
#108 [03:13] <|Kiikun|> one goes on, other goes off. if both inputs off, it holds. if both inputs on, it goes into an unpredictable state.. where Q=notQ
#109 [03:13] <Iridium> when i do that it rapid pulses
#110 [03:13] <|Kiikun|> oops!
#111 [03:13] * |Kiikun| derps
#111 [03:13] <|Kiikun|> supposed to have torches in middle line
#112 [03:14] <|Kiikun|> blocks at corners
#113 [03:15] <|Kiikun|> [block with wire][torch on block][wire] then reverse
#114 [03:15] <Iridium> ah ok
#115 [03:15] <|Kiikun|> nooowww.... if you want a t-flipflop it woudl be a slight bit harder to explain :P
#116 [03:16] <|Kiikun|> but only about twice as big :D
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#118 [03:17] <lbvermillion> Hello
#119 [03:17] <|Kiikun|> ohi.
#120 [03:17] <Silent_Samurai> :o
#121 [03:18] <Iridium> well that's one step closer i guess
#122 [03:18] <Iridium> it's inverted
#123 [03:18] <|Kiikun|> ?
#124 [03:18] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: pm me ip
#125 [03:19] <Iridium> like i mean
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#127 [03:33] <Gazionetadmin> hey whats the quickest way to smelt something what lava, coal charcoal,wood
#128 [03:33] <Gazionetadmin> witch one?
#129 [03:34] <Grim_Reaper> I think they all smelt at the same speed
#130 [03:34] <Grim_Reaper> Lava lasts longer though
#131 [03:34] <Gazionetadmin> what about blaze powder?
#132 [03:35] <Grim_Reaper> Blaze powder can be used to smelt :o?
#133 [03:35] <Grim_Reaper> Ooo thats new to me :3
#134 [03:37] <|Kiikun|> all the speed is the same.. just how long it lasts changes
#135 [03:46] * |Kiikun| just completely bruteforced a solution on spacechem :P
#135 [03:47] <|Kiikun|> "hey i need plutonium... lets just fuse 94 hydrogen!"
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#138 [03:48] <mib_oyqrhp> when i paid for minecraft there was a video on the homepage and i want to get that. how do i get it?
#139 [03:49] <|Kiikun|> mib_oyqrhp: the 'this is minecraft' video?
#140 [03:49] <mib_oyqrhp> yeah
#141 [03:49] <mib_oyqrhp> ?
#142 [03:49] <|Kiikun|> thats minecraft. video was recorded in an older version though
#143 [03:49] <mib_oyqrhp> wheres the new 1
#144 [03:50] <mib_oyqrhp> ?
#145 [03:50] <Iridium> spacechem?
#146 [03:50] <|Kiikun|> they didnt make a new video... if your talking about the game itself just downlaod the client and play
#147 [03:50] <|Kiikun|> !client
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#149 [03:50] <mib_oyqrhp> is that a beta?
#150 [03:51] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: techo-alchemy in space!
#151 [03:51] <Iridium> yeah minecraft is in beta 1.8.1 atm
#152 [03:51] <mib_oyqrhp> y
#153 [03:51] <|Kiikun|> mib_oyqrhp: minecraft is still in beta :P
#154 [03:51] <mib_oyqrhp> what that mean>?
#155 [03:51] <mib_oyqrhp> demo?
#156 [03:51] <|Kiikun|> no. beta.
#157 [03:51] <self_slaughter> testing
#158 [03:51] <Iridium> nah it's the full version only it's not quite finished yet
#159 [03:51] <mib_oyqrhp> its shit
#160 [03:51] <mib_oyqrhp> i played an older demo better than that
#161 [03:52] <|Kiikun|> . . .
#162 [03:52] <|Kiikun|> its.. the same game...
#163 [03:52] <Iridium> well i say it's not finished
#164 [03:52] <Iridium> a game like this is never truely finished
#165 [03:52] <mib_oyqrhp> when i brought a premium account on minecraft what does that mean?
#166 [03:52] <Iridium> what i mean is that they're still improving it
#167 [03:52] <Iridium> it means you can play minecraft....
#168 [03:53] <mib_oyqrhp> wheres the survival?
#169 [03:53] <|Kiikun|> ?? premium
#170 [03:53] <VoxelHead> premium: Both Alpha and Beta premium users will get bug fixes, updates, patches, and the final release of the game for free. This has not changed. The only difference between the two is the potential aspect of future expansions beyond final release. Alpha users were promised these future expansions for free, while people that bought it during Beta were not.
#171 [03:53] <|Kiikun|> survival is the default game mode. mobs come out in dark places
#172 [03:53] <mib_oyqrhp> is that the one where u survive day and night?
#173 [03:53] <|Kiikun|> yes. thats survival.
#174 [03:53] <Iridium> :D i'm so happy about that you know
#175 [03:54] <Iridium> i bought minecraft right at the end of alpha
#176 [03:54] <mib_oyqrhp> how do i get the full version on a desktop icon
#177 [03:54] <Iridium> my brother bought it right at the start of beta xD
#178 [03:54] <|Kiikun|> mib_oyqrhp:
#179 [03:54] <mib_oyqrhp> ?
#180 [03:54] <|Kiikun|> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#181 [03:54] <mib_oyqrhp> i have dwnloaded that
#182 [03:55] <mib_oyqrhp> i didnt get a desktop icon
#183 [03:55] <mib_oyqrhp> but which download
#184 [03:55] <mib_oyqrhp> theres a few
#185 [03:55] <|Kiikun|> yes. and you obviously dont have 3 different OSs on your computer.. also ignoring the fact it hides the ones not for your os.
#186 [03:56] <Iridium> the one at the bottom is the wares you need to host your own server
#187 [03:56] <|Kiikun|> which is why its called 'server'
#188 [03:56] <Iridium> hence the title Multiplayer Beta Server
#189 [03:56] <Iridium> and the name Minecraft_Server.exe
#190 [03:56] <Iridium> see a pattern?
#191 [03:58] <mib_oyqrhp> ohhh
#192 [03:58] <mib_oyqrhp> yeah
#193 [03:58] <mib_oyqrhp> thx
#194 [03:58] <mib_oyqrhp> server takes ages to download
#195 [03:59] <Iridium> so say i want a 2 high piston door coming from just the floor
#196 [03:59] <Iridium> how would i wire that?
#197 [03:59] <mib_oyqrhp> server wont dwnload properly
#198 [03:59] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: the pistons are the door itself? orthey push someing into the way?
#199 [03:59] <mib_oyqrhp> whats a mincraft server download?
#200 [03:59] <Iridium> the latter
#201 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> Only if you want to host a minecraft server
#202 [03:59] <GreyVulpine> If you want to play, you only need the client
#203 [04:00] <mib_oyqrhp> how i get that
#204 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> !client
#205 [04:00] * |Kiikun| cries
#205 [04:00] * self_slaughter gives |Kiikun| some valium to help cope
#205 [04:00] <mib_oyqrhp> im so confused'
#206 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#207 [04:00] <mib_oyqrhp> ?
#208 [04:00] * |Kiikun| skips the valium and goes straight for the pot
#208 [04:00] <GreyVulpine> Windows? Mac? Linux? OS/2 warp?
#209 [04:00] <|Kiikun|> mib_oyqrhp: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, HyperOS, or Nintendo Wii?
#210 [04:01] <|Kiikun|> ignore the last 2.. they are jokes
#211 [04:01] * GreyVulpine pffts
#211 [04:01] <Iridium> rofl nintendo wii
#212 [04:01] * |Kiikun| adds OS2 Warp to 'joke list'
#212 [04:01] <Iridium> i don't get that one
#213 [04:02] <mib_oyqrhp> windowa
#214 [04:02] <mib_oyqrhp> windows
#215 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> mib_oyqrhp - Then download http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#216 [04:02] <mib_oyqrhp> i hve
#217 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> Then run it
#218 [04:02] <|Kiikun|> win/mac/lin are hardcoded in. the other two are random
#219 [04:02] <mib_oyqrhp> what does that do
#220 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> That's what you use to log in and play minecraft
#221 [04:02] <mib_oyqrhp> how do i play?
#222 [04:02] <GreyVulpine> Log in and play
#223 [04:03] <Iridium> so would i just stick repeaters where the pistons should be extended then set them on the correct delays?
#224 [04:04] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: for doublepiston its a bit more complex.
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#226 [04:04] <Iridium> okay i'll look up a tut then
#227 [04:04] <|Kiikun|> Iridium: from the bottom?
#228 [04:04] <Iridium> yeah
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#235 [05:07] <Iridium> so you think my server would make a good one if i made it public?
#236 [05:08] <|Kiikun|> maybe. i didnt feel lagged all that much
#237 [05:09] <Iridium> how would i deal with griefers?
#238 [05:09] <|Kiikun|> this a vanilal server?
#239 [05:09] <Iridium> nah bukkit
#240 [05:10] <Iridium> although it has very little mods on it
#241 [05:11] <Iridium> just a fly mod, world edit, pailstone and a command mod
#242 [05:12] <|Kiikun|> worldedit and probably a history thing
#243 [05:13] <Iridium> i mean i could easily add more mods in, i just haven't really looked for any that i want
#244 [05:13] <|Kiikun|> or permissions. let guests just view. have to 'whitelist' peopel to build
#245 [05:16] <Iridium> ah that would be good
#246 [05:17] <|Kiikun|> mmmm hydrogen cyanide and methane...
#247 [05:17] <|Kiikun|> ok bed time for meeeee
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#249 [05:22] <Iridium> nn
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#252 [05:31] <Hawkhead> hello
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#254 [05:33] <Hawkhead> .........
#255 [05:38] <Hawkhead> help!
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#258 [05:44] <Hawkhead> hello
#259 [05:47] <Chris> whats up
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#261 [05:48] <Hawkhead> how do i download minecraft
#262 [05:48] <Hawkhead> ??????
#263 [05:49] <Chris> what OS are you running
#264 [05:49] <Chris> ??< index
#265 [05:49] <Hawkhead> im only 10
#266 [05:49] <Hawkhead> ?
#267 [05:49] <Hawkhead> !
#268 [05:50] <Chris> Do you use Windows?
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#270 [05:50] <Hawkhead> yes
#271 [05:51] <Chris> have you bought minecraft?
#272 [05:51] <Hawkhead> yes
#273 [05:51] <Chris> okay, 1 sec I'll get you the download link
#274 [05:51] <Hawkhead> ok
#275 [05:52] <Chris> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#276 [05:54] <Hawkhead> whats minecraft lancher
#277 [05:54] <Hawkhead> launcher
#278 [05:56] <Hawkhead> ................
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#280 [06:00] <Hawkhead> hello
#281 [06:00] <Chris> hello
#282 [06:00] <Chris> sorry
#283 [06:01] <Chris> didn't see you replied
#284 [06:01] <Hawkhead> oh
#285 [06:01] <Chris> if you type the login you used to buy minecraft there you can play
#286 [06:03] <Hawkhead> but minecraft launcher looks like a black and white screen to me
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#288 [06:05] <Hawkhead> ......................
#289 [06:05] <Chris> Hawk, do you know what version of java you're running?
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#291 [06:07] <Hawkhead> no but i think i updated it yesterday
#292 [06:07] <Chris> okay, press Windows+R, type "cmd" and press enter
#293 [06:07] <atcen> hi
#294 [06:07] <Chris> hello
#295 [06:08] <atcen> i have a problem, everytime i try to switch sound or music on minecraft crash
#296 [06:08] <Hawkhead> ok now what
#297 [06:08] <Chris> type "java -version" and press enter
#298 [06:09] <Hawkhead> done
#299 [06:10] <Chris> what did it say?
#300 [06:10] <Hawkhead> 1.6.9_29
#301 [06:11] <Hawkhead> the 9 is a 0
#302 [06:11] <Hawkhead> 1.6.0_29
#303 [06:12] <Chris> hmm...
#304 [06:13] <Chris> do you know what kind of computer you have? like what brand and model number?
#305 [06:17] <Hawkhead> yes pentum 4 or shuttle xpc
#306 [06:17] <Hawkhead> fn95
#307 [06:19] <Hawkhead> ...................
#308 [06:21] <Chris> do you know how old it is?
#309 [06:21] <Hawkhead> no
#310 [06:22] <Hawkhead> my dad got it second hand
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#312 [06:23] <Chris> do you know which version of Windows you have?
#313 [06:24] <Hawkhead> xp
#314 [06:25] <Juze> atcen: So if you use the scrollbar in options, it crashes?
#315 [06:26] <Chris> okay, gimme a couple more seconds...
#316 [06:27] <Juze> Update LWJGL.
#317 [06:27] <Hawkhead> ????
#318 [06:27] <Juze> Lightweight Java Gaming Library. It's used by Minecraft. The LWJGL packed with Minecraft is outdated.
#319 [06:28] <Juze> Although, it likely won't solve your launcher problem. Have you tried to launch Minecraft from the Linux .jar?
#320 [06:28] <Chris> Hawkhead, also make sure your computer drivers are up to date at this link http://au.shuttle.com/download/download
#321 [06:28] <Hawkhead> im 10
#322 [06:28] <Juze> Age doesn't matter, does it?
#323 [06:28] <Chris> or ask your dad to do it xD
#324 [06:29] <Juze> You need to figure out your socket though if you use that site. o_O
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#326 [06:37] <Hawkhead> what does Bios mean
#327 [06:37] <self_slaughter> basic input output system
#328 [06:38] <self_slaughter> its the writing that comes up when you first turn your computer on :)
#329 [06:40] <Hawkhead> im lost
#330 [06:40] <self_slaughter> you don't need to be worrying about the bios anyway so don't stress :P
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#332 [06:41] <Hawkhead> what do i do?
#333 [06:41] <self_slaughter> what are you trying to do?
#334 [06:42] <Hawkhead> trying to figure out how old it is
#335 [06:42] <self_slaughter> the computer?
#336 [06:43] <Hawkhead> yas
#337 [06:43] <Hawkhead> yes
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#339 [06:44] <self_slaughter> right click on my computer, and go to properties... then tell me what processor you have
#340 [06:44] <self_slaughter> that should give a rough idea
#341 [06:45] <Juze> 3-11 years old
#342 [06:45] <Juze> He said Pentium 4
#343 [06:45] <Hawkhead> she said
#344 [06:45] <self_slaughter> :)
#345 [06:45] <Juze> Oh.
#346 [06:45] <Juze> Sorry.
#347 [06:46] <Hawkhead> its ok
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#351 [06:49] <Hawkhead> were do i find the processor
#352 [06:50] <Hawkhead> ..................
#353 [06:54] <Hawkhead> ..........
#354 [06:55] <Hawkhead> hello
#355 [06:56] <self_slaughter> its usually in the properties of my computer, but i haven't used xp much in ages so i couldn't tell you exactly where to look
#356 [06:56] <self_slaughter> why do you need to know how old it is anyway?
#357 [06:57] <sdousley> does anyone know if it's at all possible to set a SMP server so that people cannot set their game mode to creative?
#358 [06:58] <Hawkhead> i don't know a guy called Chris told me to
#359 [06:59] <Chris> you pinged me?
#360 [06:59] <Hawkhead> ?
#361 [06:59] <self_slaughter> pong!
#362 [07:00] <Hawkhead> whats going on?
#363 [07:02] <Chris> oh I just wanted to know if the onboard graphics were too old to handle minecraft
#364 [07:02] <Hawkhead> oh
#365 [07:03] <self_slaughter> ahhh, on a p4 system more then likely
#366 [07:05] <Hawkhead> AMD athlon(tm) 64 processor
#367 [07:11] <Hawkhead> ...................................
#368 [07:11] <Cruxsky> is it just me or is one icon brighter? http://i.imgur.com/R3i07.png
#369 [07:14] <self_slaughter> the one on the right seems to have mroe colour to it
#370 [07:14] <Cruxsky> weird...
#371 [07:14] <Cruxsky> i just made another copy :o
#372 [07:14] <Hawkhead> .......................
#373 [07:14] <self_slaughter> Hawkhead: Sorry, start from the beginning what are you trying to do?
#374 [07:15] <self_slaughter> Hawkhead: Is minecraft crashing or something?
#375 [07:15] <Hawkhead> no
#376 [07:16] <Hawkhead> how do you download minecraft
#377 [07:16] <Hawkhead> yes i have bought the geme
#378 [07:17] <self_slaughter> http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#379 [07:17] <self_slaughter> download that
#380 [07:17] <Hawkhead> done
#381 [07:17] <self_slaughter> ok, run that and log in
#382 [07:19] <Hawkhead> its working
#383 [07:19] <self_slaughter> :) is that all you have been trying to do all along?
#384 [07:19] <Chris> I told him to do that
#385 [07:19] <Hawkhead> yes
#386 [07:20] <Cruxsky> lawl
#387 [07:20] <Chris> he said it came up black and white
#388 [07:20] <self_slaughter> her
#389 [07:20] <Chris> sorry
#390 [07:20] <self_slaughter> :P
#391 [07:20] <Chris> derp
#392 [07:20] <Chris> I didn't know... sorry
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#394 [07:20] <Chris> oh man this is awkward now
#395 [07:20] <self_slaughter> lol, I missed the first part of the conversation... sorry
#396 [07:20] <self_slaughter> at least its working now hahaha
#397 [07:20] <Chris> yeah :P
#398 [07:21] <Chris> I told her to run it and she said it came up black and white
#399 [07:21] <Chris> then I started the debug process and had almost no idea what I was doing xD
#400 [07:21] <Chris> I should just stick to bukkit debugging xD
#401 [07:21] <self_slaughter> :D
#402 [07:22] <Hawkhead> thank you both of you bye!:D
#403 [07:22] <self_slaughter> wow i feel so sorry for her
#404 [07:22] <self_slaughter> that was a long wait to do something so simple ahhaha
#405 [07:22] <self_slaughter> and little kids get so impatient
#406 [07:23] <Juze> sdousley: Don't OP people you don't want to have creative
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#408 [07:24] <Juze> Or use earlier versions of Minecraft without creative mode
#409 [07:24] <Juze> I can recommend Alpha 1.2.2
#410 [07:24] <Hawkhead> one thing it works but not for long
#411 [07:24] <self_slaughter> what happens?
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#413 [07:25] <Hawkhead> it plays normally but then it stops
#414 [07:25] <Juze> Stops where?
#415 [07:26] <self_slaughter> does it say or do anything when it stops? or does it just disappear?
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#418 [07:27] <Hawkhead> it turns to a black screen
#419 [07:28] <ProDG> hi, if i bought minecraft pocket edition for android, can play on desktop full version?
#420 [07:28] <Juze> ProDG: No
#421 [07:28] <ProDG> :-(
#422 [07:28] <ProDG> thx
#423 [07:28] <Juze> Two seperated games
#424 [07:29] <Hawkhead> ....................
#425 [07:32] <Hawkhead> cool that it works not cool that it stops
#426 [07:33] <self_slaughter> try download this
#427 [07:33] <self_slaughter> http://spout.in/exe
#428 [07:33] <self_slaughter> see if that works any better for you
#429 [07:33] <Hawkhead> ok
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#431 [07:41] <Hawkhead> cool thanks
#432 [07:41] <self_slaughter> working better now?
#433 [07:41] <self_slaughter> hmm guess so lol
#434 [07:46] <Juze> I blame LWJGL
#435 [07:46] <Juze> :P
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#440 [08:02] <mib_724jn7> Can someone help me please?
#441 [08:02] <self_slaughter> whats the problem?
#442 [08:03] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#443 [08:03] * self_slaughter isn't "The one"
#443 [08:03] <self_slaughter> :D
#444 [08:03] <mib_724jn7> When i want to login to Minecraft, it cames "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#445 [08:03] <mib_724jn7> But on minecraft.net i can log in without problems
#446 [08:04] <mib_724jn7> I'm trying to login in the game for 15 minutes
#447 [08:04] <self_slaughter> has it ever logged in using the standalone launcher? or only on the web site
#448 [08:04] <mib_724jn7> umm i was much times on my laptop online
#449 [08:04] <mib_724jn7> then i wanted to come on with my home computer
#450 [08:05] <mib_724jn7> i've downloades the minecraft.exe
#451 [08:05] <mib_724jn7> from the website minecraft.net
#452 [08:05] <self_slaughter> hmmm, I'd say its probably a firewall setting on your home computer then
#453 [08:06] <self_slaughter> try disable your firewall and see if it logs in
#454 [08:06] <mib_724jn7> i have bitdefender, and i made a firewal rule
#455 [08:06] <self_slaughter> just try disable it anyway and see if you can log in just to be sure
#456 [08:07] <mib_724jn7> i disabled firewall
#457 [08:07] <mib_724jn7> but it doesn't work
#458 [08:07] <mib_724jn7> i have read that sometimes the server hastn't slots free
#459 [08:07] <self_slaughter> is that the only firewall you're running?
#460 [08:07] <mib_724jn7> yes
#461 [08:07] <self_slaughter> ie. windows firewall, maybe a firewall built into your modem.router
#462 [08:08] <mib_724jn7> win firewall is diesabled
#463 [08:08] <mib_724jn7> disabled*
#464 [08:08] <self_slaughter> what about your router?
#465 [08:08] <mib_724jn7> idk
#466 [08:08] <mib_724jn7> xD
#467 [08:08] <mib_724jn7> but on my laptop now
#468 [08:09] <mib_724jn7> i was onlin
#469 [08:09] <mib_724jn7> online
#470 [08:09] <mib_724jn7> i think maybe is the server too full
#471 [08:10] <self_slaughter> i've been having problems connecting to minecraft.net the last half hour or so, but it should connect after a few goes
#472 [08:10] <mib_724jn7> yeah maybe theserver is much to full
#473 [08:11] <mib_724jn7> it's friday i mean ^^
#474 [08:11] <mib_724jn7> I've tried it now 10 times
#475 [08:11] <mib_724jn7> i mean now
#476 [08:12] <mib_724jn7> and it doesn't works
#477 [08:12] <mib_724jn7> -.- i've payed 15 €
#478 [08:12] <mib_724jn7> but i can't play
#479 [08:12] <mib_724jn7> and the problem is
#480 [08:12] <self_slaughter> you said it connects on your laptop
#481 [08:12] <mib_724jn7> yes
#482 [08:12] <self_slaughter> so you can play, you just cant set up your network properly lmao
#483 [08:13] <self_slaughter> (jokes btw)
#484 [08:13] <mib_724jn7> but the laptop is from my mum
#485 [08:13] <mib_724jn7> and well
#486 [08:14] <mib_724jn7> when i wanna play and my mother needs the laptop -.-
#487 [08:14] <self_slaughter> I'd say look into your router settings
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#489 [08:14] <self_slaughter> you might need to make an exception for "your" pc in the firewall settings
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#491 [08:15] <rEvolutionTU> Hmm... I purchased minecraft about a week ago, it first said that the transaction failed, like 20s later it said it was successfull and I'll be premium "within the hour" - now one week later there was still nothing deducted from my bank account and no confirmation email whatsoever. Minecraft support doesn't answer me. ... What to do to? :/
#492 [08:16] <rEvolutionTU> I'm scared that if I purchase it again I might get charged twice and won't be able to refund or some shit.
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#494 [08:22] <Morrolan> You can always dispute the payment through your credit card provider / PayPal if you get charged twice, rEvolutionTU.
#495 [08:23] <rEvolutionTU> Well, techincly if I order it again and it turns out the first payment went through as well... isn't it just like "LOLOWNED YOU PURCHSED IT TWICE NOOB"? :S
#496 [08:23] <Morrolan> Oh, I just see that you first got the transaction failed error anyway, so you can ignore the second message which said that it was successful.
#497 [08:23] <rEvolutionTU> Thats a known bug?
#498 [08:24] <Morrolan> It happens quite often, so yea.
#499 [08:24] <rEvolutionTU> ohgawd, why doesn't it say that anywhere :/
#500 [08:24] <Morrolan> If you get it again it might be that your credit card isn't set up for international transfer, you might have to call your credit card provider then.
#501 [08:24] <rEvolutionTU> i found like a dozen threads where people said it happened to them, but all stopped before they said what happened a week after it
#502 [08:24] <rEvolutionTU> tried via ELV, so wasnt via PayPal/CC
#503 [08:25] <Morrolan> Hmm, ok.
#504 [08:25] <rEvolutionTU> but cheers, should really be up somewhere if that happens more often o.o
#505 [08:25] <mib_724jn7> I have a question
#506 [08:25] <Morrolan> Yea, mib_724jn7.
#507 [08:26] <Morrolan> rEvolutionTU: Yea, would safe some people quite some time I guess.
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#509 [08:27] <mib_724jn7> Umm i've tried with my second router, but i can't connect with my pc
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#511 [08:27] <mib_724jn7> i can connect with my laptop
#512 [08:27] <mib_724jn7> but not with m pc
#513 [08:27] <Morrolan> Can't connect to a server, or "can't connect to minecraft.net" ?
#514 [08:27] <mib_724jn7> canÄt connect to minecraft.net
#515 [08:27] <mib_724jn7> can't*
#516 [08:28] <Morrolan> Then either you're running some security software which blocks Minecraft, or your Hosts file is messed up.
#517 [08:28] <Morrolan> ?? win/hosts
#518 [08:28] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#519 [08:28] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#520 [08:28] <Morrolan> In the file VoxelHead showed you how to find, remove any lines containing "minecraft.net".
#521 [08:29] <Morrolan> If there are none then it'll have to be some security software.
#522 [08:30] <mib_724jn7> there is just
#523 [08:30] <mib_724jn7> 127.0.0.1 localhost
#524 [08:30] <mib_724jn7> i un bitdefender as security software
#525 [08:30] <mib_724jn7> run*
#526 [08:30] <mib_724jn7> i've made an excetion in the firewall in bitdefender
#527 [08:31] <mib_724jn7> but it doesn't works .-
#528 [08:31] <mib_724jn7> -.-*
#529 [08:31] <rEvolutionTU> mib_724jn7 try disabling bitdefender completely for a minute or two to find out if its the problem or not
#530 [08:31] <mib_724jn7> you mean bitdefener firewall
#531 [08:32] <mib_724jn7> right?
#532 [08:32] <rEvolutionTU> thats usually the easiest way to find out if a firewall is failing you or not =P
#533 [08:32] <mib_724jn7> i'd disabled it and let's see
#534 [08:33] <mib_724jn7> "Can't connect to minecraft.net "-.-
#535 [08:33] <rEvolutionTU> make sure to turn it back on :P
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#537 [08:33] <mib_724jn7> and offline i can't play beacause it's the first time i want to run it on my home pc
#538 [08:34] <mib_724jn7> i'd turned it on yet
#539 [08:34] <mib_724jn7> I've payed 15€ for this game and i can't play -.-
#540 [08:34] <rEvolutionTU> Minecraft uses TCP/UP 25565, right?
#541 [08:35] <rEvolutionTU> *tcp/udp
#542 [08:35] <Chris> yes
#543 [08:35] <rEvolutionTU> id check next if you can test if that port is online, im just too dumb to find a page for it
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#545 [08:36] <Calinou> TCP only rEvolutionTU
#546 [08:36] <Calinou> unfortunately. :(
#547 [08:36] <Calinou> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#548 [08:36] <GreyBot> Calinou: It's just you. http://login.minecraft.net is up.
#549 [08:37] <mib_724jn7> wtf?
#550 [08:37] <mib_724jn7> Bad login
#551 [08:37] <mib_724jn7> xD
#552 [08:37] <Calinou> restart minecraft
#553 [08:37] <rEvolutionTU> oh, thats a step forward
#554 [08:37] <rEvolutionTU> :D
#555 [08:37] <Calinou> it fixes it
#556 [08:37] <Calinou> no? TCP sucks
#557 [08:37] <Calinou> we'd have much, much better pings if notch used udp
#558 [08:38] <mib_724jn7> now minecraft.net doesn't load .-
#559 [08:38] <mib_724jn7> oh now it loads
#560 [08:39] <mib_724jn7> Error: TCP port 25565 is unavailable.
#561 [08:41] <mib_724jn7> -.-
#562 [08:41] <mib_724jn7> damned i wan to play -.-
#563 [08:42] <rEvolutionTU> I'm pretty sure that's an error on your end. Stuff to check for is if you have another firewall running and/or if your router is forwarding correctly.
#564 [08:42] <mib_724jn7> i don't have another firewall running
#565 [08:42] <mib_724jn7> and on the same router
#566 [08:42] <mib_724jn7> i can play with my laltop
#567 [08:42] <rEvolutionTU> lol
#568 [08:42] <mib_724jn7> laptop*
#569 [08:42] <mib_724jn7> but not with my pc
#570 [08:43] <mib_724jn7> what's "Force game update" ?
#571 [08:45] <mib_724jn7> ????
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#573 [08:49] <mib_724jn7> Could it be that "Mincraft" doesn't work on "Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3?"
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#577 [09:00] <mib_724jn7> -.-
#578 [09:01] <Thrae> mib_724jn7: Minecraft works on Windows XP, Vista, and 7 fine.
#579 [09:01] <mib_724jn7> hmm
#580 [09:01] <Thrae> mib_724jn7: The error sounds like something may be still resident in memory. The easiest way to fix this is to just reboot.
#581 [09:02] <mib_724jn7> um okay ill try this
#582 [09:05] <Thrae> Calinou: TCP has a built-in mechanism to help guarantee the packet will get there. UDP has no such guarantee, making it more difficult (and perhaps prohibitive) to use with large numbers of players and a server<->client architecture.
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#584 [09:06] <mib_q4i6bt> I'm Back
#585 [09:06] <mib_q4i6bt> it doesn't works too
#586 [09:06] <Thrae> mib_q4i6bt: Same error about TCP Port 25565?
#587 [09:07] <mib_q4i6bt> no "Can't connect to minecraft.net*
#588 [09:07] <Thrae> mib_q4i6bt: OK, can you connect to http://www.minecraft.net and http://login.minecraft.net in your web browser?
#589 [09:08] <mib_q4i6bt> yes, but at the seconds comes "Bad login"
#590 [09:08] <Thrae> mib_q4i6bt: That's what it's suppose to say if you use a web browser to visit that site. OK, disable your Internet Security/Protection and Anti-Virus software.
#591 [09:09] <Sardonicus> Hi Sweethearts
#592 [09:09] <Thrae> mib_q4i6bt: Oh wait, before we do that, download the latest launcher --
#593 [09:09] <Thrae> !client
#594 [09:09] * Sardonicus waves at Aubot
#594 [09:09] <Sardonicus> :D
#595 [09:10] * Sardonicus asks AuBot for some candies
#595 [09:10] <Sardonicus> I don't have any, that's why I asked you!
#596 [09:10] <mib_q4i6bt> now i can't connect to minecraft.net
#597 [09:10] * Sardonicus tells AuBot not to aubot that much
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#598 [09:11] <mib_q4i6bt> 500 Internl Server Error
#599 [09:11] <Thrae> mib_q4i6bt: From the launcher or web browser?
#600 [09:11] <mib_q4i6bt> web browser
#601 [09:11] <mib_q4i6bt> but now it works
#602 [09:11] <Thrae> ??> mib_q4i6bt dont/pm
#603 [09:11] <VoxelHead> mib_q4i6bt: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#604 [09:12] <mib_q4i6bt> okkkkkk
#605 [09:12] <Calinou> TCP still sucks, Thrae
#606 [09:12] <mib_q4i6bt> I've downloaded the launcher 1 hour ago, so i think it's actually
#607 [09:12] <Calinou> we could have much better pings and more player updates with UDP
#608 [09:13] <Calinou> or, let server admins choose what to use
#609 [09:13] <mib_q4i6bt> Thrae now disabling bitdefender?
#610 [09:14] <Thrae> Calinou: TCP is the major protocol used in MMOs. And having coded with network protocols it's not as simple just switching packets in MMO designs -- you'd need to code an extra 50% just for the other protocol it's so different.
#611 [09:14] <Sardonicus> FLASH! aaaaaaaah KIng of Impossible!
#612 [09:14] <Thrae> mib_q4i6bt: Yes
#613 [09:14] <mib_q4i6bt> ok
#614 [09:14] <mib_q4i6bt> i've done that
#615 [09:14] <mib_q4i6bt> what now
#616 [09:14] <Thrae> mib_q4i6bt: Try Minecraft again.
#617 [09:15] <mib_q4i6bt> YEAHHH
#618 [09:15] <mib_q4i6bt> IT WORKS!!! THANKSS A LOT
#619 [09:16] <Thrae> mib_q4i6bt: Sure, Google on how to add Java as an exception for the future.
#620 [09:16] <mib_q4i6bt> but i think it was because of jawa -.-
#621 [09:16] <Calinou> current pings are not acceptable for pvp, just that
#622 [09:16] <mib_q4i6bt> becausei installed jawa
#623 [09:16] <mib_q4i6bt> and now it works
#624 [09:16] <Calinou> on other games I can have 60 ping on a server
#625 [09:16] <mib_q4i6bt> yeai
#626 [09:16] <Calinou> I have this ping only on my local server, where I'd have 12 on the other game
#627 [09:16] <Thrae> mib_q4i6bt: Your Anti-Virus was making Minecraft as a Virus/Trojan, it's called a "false positive" and doesn't usually happen.
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#629 [09:17] <mib_q4i6bt> It wasn't BitDefender
#630 [09:17] <Thrae> Calinou: Are you talking about Minecraft's pings vs another game's pings?
#631 [09:17] <mib_q4i6bt> It was Jawa
#632 [09:17] <Calinou> yes
#633 [09:18] <Calinou> don't forget the crappy amount of player updates
#634 [09:18] <Calinou> seeing another player is extremely choppy, not every sound is played (no footsteps, no cave sounds, no breaking anims)
#635 [09:18] <Calinou> compared to the other game where the movement is very fluid and every sound is sent. :P
#636 [09:19] <Thrae> Calinou: I can't really argue that except to say there are different ways to get pings and they have different response times. There's what are known as TCP Pings and those that use the far more used ICMP protocol. Usually routers handle these two quite differently and that can effect the ping as well as the difference in protocol. I'm not sure which one Minecraft uses.
#637 [09:20] <Calinou> okay then
#638 [09:21] <Thrae> And since UDP doesn't have that guarantee, there's really no such thing as a "UDP Ping" when it comes to response time.
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#656 [10:37] <mib_oio434> hello
#657 [10:37] <TheNoodle> Hello mib_oio434.
#658 [10:37] <mib_oio434> is any one on that has min or two can help me a problem i been have with minecraft
#659 [10:40] <Thrae> mib_oio434: No one can help until you tell us what's wrong.
#660 [10:40] <mib_oio434> makeing sure some there lol
#661 [10:42] <mib_oio434> after i hit the login the sceen trun back then tell me that distlay driver stop responding
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#663 [10:43] <gieves> I am D;
#664 [10:44] <mib_oio434> i have up to date driver's for my card and up to date for java
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#666 [10:45] <gieves> Reckon anyone can helpme?
#667 [10:46] <mib_oio434> i look on the forum for help on this but have not getten much
#668 [10:46] <Thrae> ??> mib_oio434 win/dxdiag
#669 [10:46] <VoxelHead> mib_oio434: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#670 [10:46] <VoxelHead> mib_oio434: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#671 [10:46] <Thrae> gieves: What's your problem?
#672 [10:47] <mib_oio434> win 7 / dxiag 11
#673 [10:47] <Thrae> mib_oio434: You want to follow VoxelHead's instructions.
#674 [10:47] <gieves> I can never connect to minecraft.net and iv deleted my .minecraft out of frustration :(
#675 [10:48] <Thrae> gieves: OK, re-download the launcher off http://www.minecraft.net/download
#676 [10:48] <Calinou> ?? error/cantconnect
#677 [10:48] <VoxelHead> error/cantconnect: Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#678 [10:48] <VoxelHead> error/cantconnect: This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#679 [10:48] <mib_oio434> you want it all i have posted my dxdiag on the forums
#680 [10:49] <gieves> Oohh Java might be the problem 1 sec
#681 [10:49] <gieves> Iv tried everything else
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#683 [10:50] <Thrae> mib_oio434: Yes.
#684 [10:51] <mib_oio434> here a link to my post about the info you on my dxdiag on it http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/716951-need-help/
#685 [10:51] <Calinou> let me check
#686 [10:53] <Calinou> look what epikal replied, mib_oio434
#687 [10:53] <Calinou> make sure you do NOT use java 7, too, use java 6
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#689 [10:54] <mib_oio434> so it java 7 that may doing this
#690 [10:54] <Thrae> You're using Java 7? Uninstall it.
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#692 [10:55] <mib_oio434> k ill try that
#693 [10:55] <ferminter> Hey, can i report a technical difficulty here?
#694 [10:55] <Thrae> ferminter: We help with technical difficulties here.
#695 [10:56] <ferminter> Ok great. Here goes: minecraft won't run for me, at all. I get that windows 7 notification asking if it is safe to run, but then nothing happens. I have been playing minecraft fully functional on this PC, along with graphical mods. Any ideas?
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#697 [10:57] <ferminter> I've also checked on the forums and no-one has the sam issue.
#698 [10:57] <ferminter> *same
#699 [10:58] <Thrae> ferminter: Windows doesn't ask if something is safe to run by itself. It seems your Anti-Virus or other Security Software is interfering, which is why you're also not getting a response on the forums.
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#702 [11:00] <ferminter> i haven't changed my settings one bit from the last time i played minecraft on
#703 [11:00] <ferminter> usually minecraft would run after asking this
#704 [11:00] <gieves> Well that didnt work D:
#705 [11:00] <gieves> Iv allowed Mc through my firewall aswell.
#706 [11:00] <Thrae> ferminter: Sometimes Anti-Virus software and other things can auto-update and cause this problem, or other programs can update and cause this problem.
#707 [11:01] <Thrae> ferminter: Try disabling all security software.
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#709 [11:01] <gieves> Cause thats safe :D
#710 [11:02] <Thrae> gieves: You're the one with the black screen and an AMD Video Card, correct?
#711 [11:02] <Muffin> Any thing known about the freeze after a few seconds playing?
#712 [11:02] <Thrae> Muffin: There is "the freeze". There is only "your freeze", as in something's wrong with your computer. Are you on Windows, Mac, Linux? And are you playing Single-Player Beta or Multi-player?
#713 [11:02] <gieves> Nooo...
#714 [11:02] <Muffin> Yesterday i played normal but after the java update of today the game freeze
#715 [11:03] <gieves> Im the one who can never connect to minecraft.net
#716 [11:03] <Muffin> multi
#717 [11:03] <Thrae> Muffin: Java Update? What version of Java are you running? http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#718 [11:03] <ferminter> Thrae I did so and it doesn't change. I'm not sure it's a safety software interfering, this is a default windows 7 open file security warning...
#719 [11:03] <Muffin> You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 29)
#720 [11:04] <Thrae> ferminter: It's suppose to give that once and only once. If it's giving it more than once something's wrong, unless you're always running it from something like Internet Explorer / another web browser.
#721 [11:04] <Thrae> Muffin: OK, uninstall all versions of Java from Programs and Features (Add/Remove for XP) and install both "Windows x64" and "Windows x86 Offline" from WugBot's link --
#722 [11:04] <Thrae> :j
#723 [11:04] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#724 [11:05] <Thrae> ferminter: Are you?
#725 [11:05] <Thrae> ferminter: For that matter, does http://www.minecraft.net/play work?
#726 [11:05] <Muffin> ok i will try thanks
#727 [11:05] <Thrae> gieves: Did we ask you to disable all your security software yet?
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#729 [11:06] <gieves1> Hey somone stole my Nick D;
#730 [11:06] <gieves1> Or i cant use it
#731 [11:06] <gieves1> Meh
#732 [11:06] <Thrae> gieves1: Your other nick hasn't expired yet
#733 [11:06] <gieves1> So can anyone else help me?
#734 [11:06] <gieves1> Ahhh
#735 [11:06] <Thrae> gieves1: You were the one with BitDefender, right?
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#737 [11:07] <gieves1> No im the one that can Never connect to Minecaft.net
#738 [11:07] <Thrae> gieves1: Did you re-download the launcher from http://www.minecraft.net/download ?
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#741 [11:08] <gieves1> Iv redownloaded the new and old launcher and its not that
#742 [11:08] <Thrae> gieves1: You can't download old launchers.
#743 [11:08] <Thrae> gieves1: OK, disable your Security Software -- Anti-Virus, etc.
#744 [11:08] <ferminter> Thrae it's always giving me the warning because I had the Always show this question square checked. It doesn't work online because I'm not registered (lol?)
#745 [11:09] <Thrae> ferminter: What's your Minecraft username?
#746 [11:09] <gieves1> Alright
#747 [11:09] <ferminter> Thrae as I've said I'm not registered, I only play offline, except it autoupdates
#748 [11:10] <Thrae> ferminter: You must purchase Minecraft Premium to legally play offline. We don't help with pirated versions / versions "a friend gave you to play offline".
#749 [11:11] <Thrae> (The later is also considered pirating)
#750 [11:11] <ferminter> Thrae I'm pretty sure I played it for free and downloaded it from the official site and it was common to download and play the official minecrat for free
#751 [11:12] <gieves1> Well I tried and that didnt work
#752 [11:12] <gieves1> And if your pirating the game then thats your fault its not working
#753 [11:12] <ferminter> Thrae I guess it's not free to play anymore? even offline?
#754 [11:13] <Thrae> ferminter: You're pirating the game. The Beta version is NOT free, period. There was an ancient Alpha version, but that's over a year old, and is now Minecraft Classic.
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#756 [11:13] <Thrae> Minecraft Classic being free and only available to play in your browser.
#757 [11:14] <Thrae> ferminter: If you have any version newer than that you got it from an illegal source.
#758 [11:14] <gieves1> Thrae Also I tried disabling security and nuthin
#759 [11:14] <Muffin> Thrae: i just updated uninstalled java an reinstalled the windows 64x en 86x offline
#760 [11:14] <Muffin> but the freeze stays :(
#761 [11:15] <ferminter> Thrae Please, I was never trying to pirate. official site .exe file, type in user name and password (i typed in random), login failed, play offline enabled. If that is or was considered piracy when there are no fishy sites or torrents or anything involved, well, it shouldn't be.
#762 [11:17] <ferminter> Thrae I guess if the Beta version is not free, what's the latest free version that is?
#763 [11:17] <oldtopman> ferminter: You would have had to have gotten the .jar files illegally
#764 [11:17] <oldtopman> The classic one.
#765 [11:17] <gieves1> Muffin got any mods installed? modified the .minecraft in any way?
#766 [11:17] <gieves1> If you typed in someone elses name then that is aslo piracy and theft-But it looks as if this was unnintentional
#767 [11:17] <Muffin> No, i only removed the bin folder to redownload the game
#768 [11:18] <Muffin> which went ok
#769 [11:18] <ferminter> I typed in a signature name that I made up, and it was for sure unique. Also I have no idea about any .jar files
#770 [11:18] <gieves1> Clasic in Broowser
#771 [11:18] <gieves1> *Classic
#772 [11:18] <gieves1> *Browser
#773 [11:18] <gieves1> Muffin Hmm okay and so it just freezes when you attept to start it up?
#774 [11:18] <Muffin> No, i can login the server fine
#775 [11:18] <oldtopman> ;kick ferminter No piracy allowed.
#776 [11:18] * WugBot kicked ferminter from #minecrafthelp (Reason: erminter :No piracy allowed.)
#777 [11:19] <oldtopman> How stupid does he think I am :S
#778 [11:19] <Muffin> i can play for about 10 seconds fine (296fps / 29% mem)
#779 [11:19] <gieves1> He was obviously lying
#780 [11:19] <Muffin> then it freeze frame drops to 0
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#782 [11:19] <gieves1> Muffin Hmmm
#783 [11:19] <Muffin> disconnect from the server an reconnect and i can play for a few seconds again
#784 [11:19] <ferminter> wow, really? after all I've explained?
#785 [11:19] <gieves1> Muffin Wait server?
#786 [11:20] <Thrae> ferminter: Minecraft Classic is the only free version and you play it through http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play
#787 [11:20] <Muffin> yes i play multiplayer
#788 [11:20] <ferminter> thanks, no need to accuse me of piracy
#789 [11:20] <oldtopman> ferminter: How stupid do you think we are?
#790 [11:20] <gieves1> ferminter You can only be lying theres no way you could have gotten the .minecraft files anywhere else other than pirating or buying the game
#791 [11:20] <Thrae> Muffin: OK, does this lag happen in Single Player?
#792 [11:20] <gieves1> Muffin Is the server yours or another?
#793 [11:21] <Muffin> clan server
#794 [11:21] <Muffin> i will try single
#795 [11:21] <gieves1> Muffin 24/7 dedicated?
#796 [11:21] <gieves1> Mufin It might simply be host or connection problems
#797 [11:21] <AndrewsPanda> Anyone here use WorldGuard?
#798 [11:21] <oldtopman> ??> AndrewsPanda mods
#799 [11:21] <VoxelHead> AndrewsPanda: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#800 [11:21] <VoxelHead> AndrewsPanda: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#801 [11:22] <gieves1> Well I still dont know anything about my problem
#802 [11:22] <AndrewsPanda> just a general question
#803 [11:22] <Muffin> yes dedicated server, but it looks like no problem singleplayer
#804 [11:22] <ferminter> oldtopman the .exe file is free for download at http://www.minecraft.net/download.
#805 [11:22] <gieves1> But meh if I have to play on my Mac I shall
#806 [11:22] <Muffin> will try to ask some one to try the server...
#807 [11:22] <oldtopman> ;kick ferminter Next-time, a ban
#808 [11:22] * WugBot kicked ferminter from #minecrafthelp (Reason: erminter :Next-time, a ban)
#809 [11:23] <gieves1> ferminter God hes persistent
#810 [11:23] <Sinistrahd> ferminter yeah the exe is, but it won'd download all the necessary files to play offline unless you pirated it or had a successful login
#811 [11:23] <oldtopman> bah
#812 [11:23] <Sinistrahd> oops
#813 [11:23] <Sinistrahd> too late
#814 [11:23] <oldtopman> I'll get a ban sooner or later
#815 [11:23] <oldtopman> He's obviously a prate, don't feed him :P
#816 [11:23] <oldtopman> pirate*
#817 [11:23] <Sinistrahd> troll pirate
#818 [11:23] <gieves1> Hes a Prat too
#819 [11:24] <Sinistrahd> heh, had a coworker in the navy, last name was Pratt
#820 [11:24] <Sinistrahd> poor guy
#821 [11:24] <gieves1> Ouch
#822 [11:25] <gieves1> Well im gonna go and get back here tommorrow Bai guys
#823 [11:26] <Muffin> i found out the problem is the server
#824 [11:26] <Muffin> but a reboot wont work
#825 [11:28] <Muffin> anyone an idea?
#826 [11:30] <Thrae> Muffin: Hmm, your player file may be corrupt on the server or the whole world may be corrupt.
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#828 [11:32] <oldtopman> ??> Muffin nullsave
#829 [11:32] <VoxelHead> Muffin: (nullsave) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#830 [11:32] <VoxelHead> Muffin: (nullsave) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#831 [11:33] <Muffin> oke will try
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#833 [11:36] <Calinou> eh
#834 [11:36] <Calinou> oldtopman has kick rights, wtf
#835 [11:37] <oldtopman> Yep
#836 [11:37] <oldtopman> Nobody sent you the memo?
#837 [11:37] <Thrae> oldtopman, weren't you once an op?
#838 [11:37] <Calinou> no?
#839 [11:37] <oldtopman> Thrae: I wish.
#840 [11:37] <oldtopman> Calinou: Wug gave them to me, and I'm too lazy to ask for voice :P
#841 [11:38] <oldtopman> TheNytangel got them too, but he got voice as well :S.
#842 [11:41] <oldtopman> Thrae: You're probably referring to my gratuitous use of ";op oldtopman" I don't have the flags for that command (sadly)
#843 [11:42] <Thrae> Ah
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#850 [11:57] <mib_kz8o4c> help me
#851 [11:57] <mib_kz8o4c> plsss
#852 [11:58] <mib_kz8o4c> Is there any way possible to refund my account
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#854 [11:59] <DreadLindwyrm> You'd need to talk directly to Mojang
#855 [11:59] <DreadLindwyrm> one sec
#856 [12:00] <Thrae> DreadLindwyrm: He already disconnected. And Mojang doesn't give out refunds.
#857 [12:00] <DreadLindwyrm> Fair enough. I was thinking if there were duplicate accounts or such
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#860 [12:27] <charmander> hola soy español alguien puede ayudarme?
#861 [12:28] <charmander> hello
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#873 [13:39] <westjgames> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#874 [13:39] <GreyBot> westjgames: It's just you. http://login.minecraft.net is up.
#875 [13:39] <westjgames> hmmm
#876 [13:39] <westjgames> oh, NOW it connects
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#878 [13:43] <westjgames> !check mc.maxfunbuild.com
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#880 [13:46] <xarcus> i don know if anyone can help but does anyone know how to set up a headset w/a mic to work on minecraft
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#882 [13:48] <clarjon1> o.O
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#884 [13:49] <westjgames> Xarcos it cant be done
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#896 [14:47] <bildramer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WfXKNBJThE
#897 [14:47] <bildramer> wrong channel, dammit
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#904 [15:03] <TT> When it asked me if i wanted the update i pressed yes and it failed. what do i do?
#905 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> OS?
#906 [15:06] <TT> i need help
#907 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Operating system?
#908 [15:06] <TT> no
#909 [15:06] <TT> the update
#910 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#911 [15:06] <TT> windows
#912 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> ??> TT win/reinst
#913 [15:06] <VoxelHead> TT: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#914 [15:06] <VoxelHead> TT: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#915 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Try these instructions.
#916 [15:07] <TT> k
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#918 [15:13] <TT> Didnt work
#919 [15:15] <GreyVulpine> What happened?
#920 [15:16] <TT> It told me that it couldnt connect to minecraft.net
#921 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> You were able to play minecraft before?
#922 [15:16] <TT> and that update failure
#923 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> Could you redownload the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#924 [15:17] <Shadow386> TT, do not query me asking for help if you're in here.
#925 [15:18] <TT> yes i did that already
#926 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> TT - Could you go to https://login.minecraft.net -- Make sure you get "Bad login"
#927 [15:18] <TT> k..
#928 [15:19] <TT> i got bad login
#929 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> It's worked before on that computer?
#930 [15:19] <TT> ya
#931 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> Got any security software on that machine? Any firewall that may be blocking minecraft?
#932 [15:20] <TT> no made sure mincraft was safe
#933 [15:20] <TT> on norton360
#934 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Could you try turning it off to test?
#935 [15:21] <TT> k
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#937 [15:23] <TT> i couldnt turn it off
#938 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> I believe norton's blocking minecraft for you
#939 [15:24] <TT> oh
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#941 [15:29] <TT> k. it says "new update available"
#942 [15:30] <TT> Would u like to update? YES or NOT RIGHT NOW
#943 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't say that, if you deleted everything in .minecraft except for saves
#944 [15:31] <TT> When i Press YES it fails and when i press NOT RIGHT NOW it oesnt load
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#946 [15:33] <TT> k i deleted everything for minecraft
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#955 [15:56] <mr_wibble> Hello
#956 [15:56] <mr_wibble> ?
#957 [15:57] <JohnEBH> Yes?
#958 [15:57] <mr_wibble> I got http://mibpaste.com/GNnMqJ I got this error when running minecraft on my ubuntu
#959 [15:57] <mr_wibble> Anyway to fix it?
#960 [15:58] <mr_wibble> I can login offline but it will not allow me to play online
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#962 [15:58] <JohnEBH> Has it worked before?
#963 [15:58] <mr_wibble> On my ubuntu no I just got this comp
#964 [15:58] <mr_wibble> It worked on my windows computer but harddrive went dead so had to get a new harddrive but the sata drive wasnt working with windows
#965 [15:59] <JohnEBH> Do you have Java installed?
#966 [15:59] <mr_wibble> Yes
#967 [15:59] <JohnEBH> Try reinstalling it..
#968 [15:59] <mr_wibble> Done that
#969 [16:00] <mr_wibble> Many times
#970 [16:00] <JohnEBH> Don't use ubuntu =P
#971 [16:00] <mr_wibble> ...
#972 [16:00] <mr_wibble> There is no way to use windows..
#973 [16:01] <mr_wibble> Sata drive wont run in windows
#974 [16:01] <mr_wibble> Doesnt read it
#975 [16:01] <clarjon1> don't use winxp
#976 [16:01] <JohnEBH> That made no sense to what so ever.
#977 [16:01] <JohnEBH> to me*
#978 [16:01] <mr_wibble> I have tried to install windows
#979 [16:01] <clarjon1> JohnEBH: Standard winxp tends to have difficulties with some SATA drives
#980 [16:02] <mr_wibble> That is the prob
#981 [16:02] <mr_wibble> Motherboard reads the hard drive but then installing windows it says no hard drive found
#982 [16:02] <clarjon1> mhm
#983 [16:02] <clarjon1> mr_wibble: hold on whilei look up something for ya
#984 [16:02] <mr_wibble> ok
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#986 [16:03] <INeedHelp> hi
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#988 [16:03] <INeedHelp> how do i update my sound driver?
#989 [16:04] <clarjon1> mr_wibble: if you follow these instructions, you should be able to add the SATA drivers for your computer -- you'll need a computer running winxp http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Windows-XP-On-SATA-Without-a-Floppy-F6-47807.shtml
#990 [16:04] <mr_wibble> Awesome man thanks :)
#991 [16:04] <clarjon1> np
#992 [16:04] <INeedHelp> clarjon1 can u help me?
#993 [16:05] <clarjon1> INeedHelp: Have you tried checking the manufacturer's support page to see if they have a downloadable driver installation program?
#994 [16:06] <INeedHelp> Funny thing is, i dont know where to go and i dont know much about This computer (i dnt rly use it)
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#996 [16:06] <JohnEBH> ??> INeedHelp win/dxdiag
#997 [16:06] <VoxelHead> INeedHelp: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#998 [16:06] <VoxelHead> INeedHelp: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#999 [16:08] <INeedHelp> thanks ill do tht now
#1000 [16:09] <INeedHelp> its runnnin
#1001 [16:10] <INeedHelp> http://pastebin.com/qfPTxGMS
#1002 [16:11] <JohnEBH> Alright hold on.
#1003 [16:11] <INeedHelp> Kk
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#1005 [16:13] <JohnEBH> Is it this? http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?product=4107320&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&cc=us
#1006 [16:14] <JohnEBH> (Looks)
#1007 [16:14] <INeedHelp> looks like the tower i got
#1008 [16:14] <JohnEBH> Ok good. Operating system?
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#1010 [16:14] <herkelabinoalakaytenarvoliky> hello?
#1011 [16:14] <JohnEBH> Hi
#1012 [16:14] <INeedHelp> 64 bit window 7
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#1014 [16:15] <herkelabinoalakaytenarvoliky> i was wondering any one here can help me or tell me where i can get help installing the yogbox???
#1015 [16:15] <JohnEBH> INeedHelp- This is it. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=pv-78120-1&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&os=4063&product=4107320&sw_lang=
#1016 [16:15] <JohnEBH> herkelabinoalakaytenarvoliky- Google.
#1017 [16:15] <JohnEBH> herkelabinoalakaytenarvoliky- We don't support mods, no one does anymore =P
#1018 [16:15] <herkelabinoalakaytenarvoliky> :(
#1019 [16:15] <INeedHelp> just run it?
#1020 [16:15] <herkelabinoalakaytenarvoliky> how?
#1021 [16:15] <JohnEBH> INeedHelp- Yeah
#1022 [16:16] <INeedHelp> rv u just have to run the program tht they give u
#1023 [16:16] <JohnEBH> herkelabinoalakaytenarvoliky- Google up instructions? Forums?
#1024 [16:16] <INeedHelp> they give u something to run to auto install
#1025 [16:16] <herkelabinoalakaytenarvoliky> what is the programe i cant find the one that runs:(
#1026 [16:16] <JohnEBH> INeedHelp- ? o.o" That's the Audio driver you wanted...
#1027 [16:17] <clarjon1> herkelabinoalakaytenarvoliky: Read the instruction section of the forum post
#1028 [16:17] <JohnEBH> herkelabinoalakaytenarvoliky- Program? Minecraft or Yogbox?
#1029 [16:17] <clarjon1> herkelabinoalakaytenarvoliky: Post a request for help on the forum topic
#1030 [16:17] <clarjon1> if you want mod support
#1031 [16:17] <clarjon1> you need to get in touch with the mod author
#1032 [16:17] <herkelabinoalakaytenarvoliky> i will gain c ya TYVM! :)
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#1035 [16:26] <username> hello?
#1036 [16:27] <YogBox> hello?
#1037 [16:27] <JohnEBH> Hello.
#1038 [16:27] <YogBox> i need help installing my self i cant find the auto install file
#1039 [16:28] <YogBox> please help?
#1040 [16:28] <Morrolan> Ask in its forum thread or its channel if you need help with Yogbox.
#1041 [16:28] <Morrolan> If it has got a channel, that is.
#1042 [16:28] <Morrolan> ??< yogbox
#1043 [16:28] <Morrolan> ??< index
#1044 [16:28] <YogBox> ??
#1045 [16:28] <Morrolan> Ah, I thought there was a FAQ entry for it, guess not.
#1046 [16:29] <YogBox> ?? YogBox
#1047 [16:29] <YogBox> nope
#1048 [16:29] <Morrolan> Either way, you'll have to ask in the thread of that modcollection.
#1049 [16:29] <YogBox> iv been here b4 1 time lol
#1050 [16:29] <Morrolan> Well, surely they already told you that we can't support mods here.
#1051 [16:29] <YogBox> but they almost never chek it
#1052 [16:29] <YogBox> didnt ask then
#1053 [16:29] <YogBox> i had lag then
#1054 [16:30] <JohnEBH> I think there was... then it was integrated into "Mods"...
#1055 [16:30] <Morrolan> JohnEBH: Ah, that could very well be.
#1056 [16:30] <YogBox> ?
#1057 [16:30] <Morrolan> Also, it seems both Vox and Understudy are active. :/
#1058 [16:30] <JohnEBH> Teh FAQ Entryyy lol
#1059 [16:30] <JohnEBH> Aren't they always? o.o
#1060 [16:30] <YogBox> i SUCK with coputers
#1061 [16:31] <Morrolan> Well, they are both in this channel, but only one should respond at a time.
#1062 [16:31] <JohnEBH> Hmmm I think it's on for index.
#1063 [16:31] <JohnEBH> Only*
#1064 [16:31] <YogBox> where can i get help since they dont chek theyr pages?:(
#1065 [16:31] <JohnEBH> YogBox- YogsCast Channel lol
#1066 [16:31] <JohnEBH> Worth a try ^
#1067 [16:32] <YogBox> i know but when i posted there no response
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#1069 [16:32] <Morrolan> In this case ask on YOgbox's forum thread.
#1070 [16:32] <YogBox> im tired of waiting iv been for a week
#1071 [16:32] * JohnEBH google's Yogbox to see if it's 1.8 rdy
#1071 [16:33] <JohnEBH> Should be pretty simple..
#1072 [16:33] <JohnEBH> http://yogiverse.com/showthread.php?11841-YogBox-A-carefully-chosen-compilation-of-good-mods
#1073 [16:33] <JohnEBH> What do you need help with?
#1074 [16:33] <YogBox> brb
#1075 [16:33] <YogBox> installing
#1076 [16:33] <YogBox> i cant find the program
#1077 [16:33] <guest-773471-47027> hello can anyone please help me
#1078 [16:33] <YogBox> that auto installs
#1079 [16:33] <JohnEBH> guest-773471-47027- Let's hope so
#1080 [16:33] <JohnEBH> YogBox- Download folder maybe?
#1081 [16:34] <YogBox> ?
#1082 [16:34] <YogBox> Download folder?
#1083 [16:34] <JohnEBH> Documents > Downloads?
#1084 [16:34] <guest-773471-47027> im having trouble installing spc autamated download
#1085 [16:34] <YogBox> k then erm brb
#1086 [16:35] <JohnEBH> SPC... Single Player Commands? We don't support mods >.>
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#1089 [16:35] <JohnEBH> Can we please have that note in the topic? >.<"
#1090 [16:35] <YogBox> This is so F***ing annoying
#1091 [16:36] <YogBox> y is it not as easy as my freind said!?
#1092 [16:36] <YogBox> yet he wont help me:(
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#1094 [16:36] <JohnEBH> lol The hell?
#1095 [16:36] <JohnEBH> He told you it's easy and he can't help you... What a great friend
#1096 [16:36] <YogBox> i know right (sarcasm
#1097 [16:37] <guest-773471-72574> hello im having trouble installing the spc autamated mod on mac
#1098 [16:37] <YogBox> hes on a trip so
#1099 [16:37] * clarjon1 sighs
#1099 [16:37] <YogBox> well more in the hospital
#1100 [16:37] <clarjon1> guest-773471-72574: We don't support mods here
#1101 [16:37] <guest-773471-72574> then were
#1102 [16:37] <clarjon1> guest-773471-72574: Post a request for help on the forum topic you got the mod from
#1103 [16:38] <YogBox> so annoying i cant do 1 thing right ever
#1104 [16:38] <YogBox> :( :(
#1105 [16:38] <JohnEBH> [16:34] <JohnEBH> SPC... Single Player Commands? We don't support mods >.>
#1106 [16:38] <guest-773471-72574> oh ok then hey if you cn go to this site for me please xnxx.com thank you
#1107 [16:38] <JohnEBH> !kick guest-773471-72574 GTFO.
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#1113 [16:39] <Morrolan> guest-773471-72574: NO advertising please.
#1114 [16:39] <clarjon1> Morrolan: it's a porn site
#1115 [16:39] <JohnEBH> What's up with Aubot...
#1116 [16:39] <JohnEBH> !kick guest-773471-72574
#1117 [16:39] <FAIL> lol
#1118 [16:39] <clarjon1> lol
#1119 [16:40] <JohnEBH> Hmmm
#1120 [16:40] <Morrolan> Oh, yea, I see. SHould have guesses by these many xs
#1121 [16:40] <isuckateverything> what was he posting?
#1122 [16:40] <Morrolan> A link to a porn site.
#1123 [16:40] <isuckateverything> WTF ROFL
#1124 [16:41] <isuckateverything> wow that sorta sad and Funny
#1125 [16:41] <isuckateverything> sad face:(
#1126 [16:41] <INeedHelp> brb gotta restart pc (thanks JohnEBH )
#1127 [16:41] <JohnEBH> INeedHelp- Np
#1128 [16:41] <JohnEBH> Lol Fail
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#1130 [16:42] <isuckateverything> so how do i auto install YogBox??
#1131 [16:42] <isuckateverything> i have about 10 so mins
#1132 [16:42] <isuckateverything> till i g2g
#1133 [16:43] <clarjon1> *sigh*
#1134 [16:43] <clarjon1> isuckateverything: that's a collection of mods
#1135 [16:43] <isuckateverything> *isuck*
#1136 [16:43] <clarjon1> we dont' support mods here
#1137 [16:43] <Morrolan> isuckateverything: We do NOT support this here, and that's the last time we'll tell you. ;)
#1138 [16:43] <isuckateverything> please? i suck at pcs
#1139 [16:43] <clarjon1> Try following the instructions found on the mod topic page
#1140 [16:44] <clarjon1> isuckateverything: Contact the Mod author if you have any issues
#1141 [16:44] <isuckateverything> it says use auto installer lol
#1142 [16:44] <clarjon1> well there should be a link to the auto installer
#1143 [16:44] <isuckateverything> how do i do that?
#1144 [16:44] <clarjon1> I dunno, i've never used yogsbox
#1145 [16:44] <isuckateverything> its in the download but it wont work
#1146 [16:44] <clarjon1> well you need to tell the people who made it that
#1147 [16:44] <clarjon1> not us :P
#1148 [16:44] <isuckateverything> *:(*
#1149 [16:45] <isuckateverything> ^_^
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#1151 [16:45] <clarjon1> That's like asking your ISP why Microsoft Word doesn't run
#1152 [16:45] <isuckateverything> y is this ^_^ not have a face?
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#1154 [16:45] <clarjon1> Or apple why your android phone doesn't work :P
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#1156 [16:46] <isuckateverything> oh well bye then i geuss ill c ya later ty for what u could do
#1157 [16:46] <isuckateverything> *UR ALL AWESOME!*
#1158 [16:46] <clarjon1> best of luck
#1159 [16:46] <mib_tmqtt6> I need help getting my regular minecraft account to premium?
#1160 [16:46] <isuckateverything> ty bye
#1161 [16:46] <isuckateverything> oh and...
#1162 [16:46] <isuckateverything> try to get a face for ^_^
#1163 [16:46] <mib_tmqtt6> Can anyone help me?
#1164 [16:46] <isuckateverything> u really need 1
#1165 [16:46] <isuckateverything> anyways bye!
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#1167 [16:47] <TheNoodle> ....did he really want us to add a smiley?
#1168 [16:48] <mib_tmqtt6> Can anyone help?
#1169 [16:50] <Morrolan> mib_tmqtt6: Could you descrive your issue in some more details please?
#1170 [16:50] <Morrolan> describe*
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#1173 [16:55] <mib_o5zrym> hello?
#1174 [16:56] <TheNoodle> Hello mib_o5zrym.
#1175 [16:56] <mib_o5zrym> I can't run minecraft, it goes error what do I do?? :(
#1176 [16:56] <TheNoodle> What is the error?
#1177 [16:56] <mib_o5zrym> let me see again
#1178 [16:57] <mib_o5zrym> bad video card drivers...
#1179 [16:57] <mib_o5zrym> is there a solution??
#1180 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#1181 [16:58] <mib_o5zrym> windows xp
#1182 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Give us a dxdiag?
#1183 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_o5zrym win/dxdiag
#1184 [16:58] <VoxelHead> mib_o5zrym: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1185 [16:58] <VoxelHead> mib_o5zrym: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1186 [16:59] <mib_o5zrym> ok...
#1187 [16:59] <mib_o5zrym> it's going
#1188 [17:02] <mib_o5zrym> ok
#1189 [17:02] <mib_o5zrym> so where do I past?
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#1191 [17:02] <mib_tmqtt6> I paid for my minecraft premium account sometime this morning. said it would be ready within the hour. still nothing. what do i do?
#1192 [17:03] <TheNoodle> Chances are the payment hasn't gone through yet.
#1193 [17:03] <TheNoodle> What payment method did you use?
#1194 [17:03] <mib_tmqtt6> Visa
#1195 [17:04] <TheNoodle> Check with your bank and see if a payment was made to Mojang AB, if so, don't worry, your account is in progress.
#1196 [17:04] <mib_tmqtt6> Do they usually send out comfomation emails either? If so i haven't gotten one.
#1197 [17:04] <mib_o5zrym> Where do I paste the link??
#1198 [17:04] <Morrolan> Generally speaking it can take up to 48 hours for the payment to get processed, mib_tmqtt6
#1199 [17:04] <Morrolan> mib_o5zrym: In this chat here.
#1200 [17:04] <mib_o5zrym> ok
#1201 [17:05] <mib_o5zrym> http://pastebin.com/cx72sUYi
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#1203 [17:05] <Morrolan> A CPU with four cores but a frequency of 1.6GHz each? Interesting. :D
#1204 [17:05] <Morrolan> Uh, just poke whoever was asking you for that dxdiag. ^^
#1205 [17:06] <felinoel> Hey my port if forwarded and open in a Ubuntu run server but a friend of mine says she can't get on, any thoughts?
#1206 [17:06] <Morrolan> felinoel: What's the error your friend gets when connecting?
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#1208 [17:06] <Morrolan> felinoel: Also, did you use a tool like http://canyouseeme.org/ to check whether the portforwarding is done properly?
#1209 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> mib_o5zrym - Download and install these drivers: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16835&ProdId=2102&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers
#1210 [17:06] <felinoel> I believe she said it timed out though am not sure... also I haven't really tried someone else getting on it to see if it is just her.
#1211 [17:06] <Dayle> Can anybody help me with a Bad Driver Error im having?
#1212 [17:07] <mib_o5zrym> okay
#1213 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - Video drivers?
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#1215 [17:07] <Dayle> Yes
#1216 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - What operating system are you on?
#1217 [17:07] <Dayle> Ive got a thread open on forums already if you would like the link?
#1218 [17:07] <Dayle> Its XP
#1219 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Please
#1220 [17:07] <felinoel> Morrolan: Yes I used that, that is how I know it is open.
#1221 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - Would also help if you gave me a dxdiag
#1222 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> ??> Dayle win/dxdiag
#1223 [17:07] <mib_o5zrym> xan't wait to play minecraft
#1224 [17:07] <VoxelHead> Dayle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1225 [17:07] <VoxelHead> Dayle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1226 [17:07] <mib_o5zrym> can't*
#1227 [17:07] <mib_uf8wp7> can someone help me
#1228 [17:07] <Morrolan> felinoel: In this case - are you using any security software which might block the server from accesing the Internet?
#1229 [17:08] <Dayle> Ive been told to give you the Dxdiag ive just saved ad uploaded to pastebin
#1230 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - Give us the URL to the dxdiag please.
#1231 [17:08] <Morrolan> And yea, it would really help if you could get someone else to try to connect, so we can rule out the connection of that friend being the problem.
#1232 [17:08] <Dayle> http://pastebin.com/M0VXN0vf
#1233 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> mib_uf8wp7 - Instead of just asking for help, tell us what the problem is
#1234 [17:08] <Dayle> Ive tried in browser and with the .exe still get the same problem, I could run the minecraft classic though
#1235 [17:09] <felinoel> Morrolan: None that I know of? I mean it is Ubuntu? I was always told Linux OSs are programmed so they don't need that sort of stuff? Though that may have been exaggerated...
#1236 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - I.. do not believe minecraft will run on that. It's an integrated card with 512 megs of RAM... give me one shot at it though
#1237 [17:09] <Morrolan> felinoel: Ah, true, then there won't be any most likely.
#1238 [17:09] <Dayle> What if i was able to get minecraft classic to run though? I was trying that earlier, It ran okay
#1239 [17:09] <Morrolan> felinoel: Any chance you could give any of us the IP, so we can try to connect? You can use "/msg <nickname> <message>" to send a private message if you don't want it publicly.
#1240 [17:10] <mib_o5zrym> Good bye and thank you...
#1241 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - Classic has less intensive requirements
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#1243 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - Alright.. Try this, this'll be a two step process
#1244 [17:10] <felinoel> Morrolan: How would I check that?
#1245 [17:10] <Dayle> I imagined it may of, Was just checking
#1246 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - First, Update your video drivers from: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16835&ProdId=2301&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers
#1247 [17:10] <Morrolan> felinoel: Uh, well, just give us your external IP, which you can get from a site like www.whatismyip.org
#1248 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - Next, you'll need to run minecraft with reduced RAM requirements. Minecraft tries to reserve a gig of RAM for itself. You have half a gig total. Try these instructions
#1249 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
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#1251 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> That'll run minecraft with 256 megs of RAM, instead of a full gig
#1252 [17:11] <Morrolan> felinoel: Actually, if you gave your friend your internal IP then that'd explain the issue as well. (If it starts with 192.168 it's an internal one, for example.)
#1253 [17:11] <felinoel> I gave her two...
#1254 [17:12] <Dayle> Okay Greyvulpline, Ill try this and ill get back to you with the results, Thanks
#1255 [17:12] <felinoel> Morrolan: 99.177.172.185 is what the URL you gave me says.
#1256 [17:13] <Morrolan> !check 99.177.172.185
#1257 [17:13] <Creeperz> hey i need some help
#1258 [17:13] <Morrolan> It seems the issue is not on your end, felinoel. Seems it's something with your friend's connection.
#1259 [17:14] <felinoel> Morrolan: She was able to get on a different server though...
#1260 [17:14] <Morrolan> Heh, and did you give her the same IP you gave to me now?
#1261 [17:14] <felinoel> Morrolan: I gave her two, she said she put them both in as separate servers to see which would connect... one of them was that I believe...
#1262 [17:15] <Morrolan> felinoel: To be sure you could give her this one again, tell her to make sure that there are no spaces etc when she pastes it. If it still doesn't work something must be blocking it.
#1263 [17:16] <felinoel> Morrolan: Huh... she may have had an extra space at the end, yea that could likely be it...
#1264 [17:16] <Dayle> @Greyvulpline, Ive tried the download & install
#1265 [17:16] <Dayle> The driver being installed is not validated for this computer, Please obtain the appropriate driver for this computers manufacturer.
#1266 [17:16] <felinoel> Morrolan: She doesn't come on for another hour or four so I won't know for sure until then, but thanks.
#1267 [17:16] <Dayle> This is the error message im getting
#1268 [17:17] <Morrolan> Sure thing, felinoel. Good luck. :)
#1269 [17:19] <Creeperz> anyone know how to fix minecraft where it says cant play offline because its not downloaded
#1270 [17:19] <Morrolan> Did you buy the game, Creeperz?
#1271 [17:20] <Creeperz> yea i can play online but its laggy
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#1273 [17:21] <Morrolan> Well, in this case you will have to log in with your username and password in the launcher, then it should download the files.
#1274 [17:21] <Morrolan> If it fails to download it's something preventing your client from connecting to minecraft.net. This can be either security software or your hosts file.
#1275 [17:24] <Creeperz> yea it worked
#1276 [17:24] <Morrolan> Very well. From now on you should be able to chose "play offline" when you've got no internet connection, for example.
#1277 [17:25] <Thunder7102> need help with redstone circut. Alright, I am trying to make a minecart trail so when I make restone dust going parallel to a trail going upward, it does not power the pwoered rail why?
#1278 [17:26] <Morrolan> I assume the redstone current has to lead straight to the rail. I never played around with powered rails that much though.
#1279 [17:27] <TheNoodle> Thunder7102, try putting a torch next to the rail and see if that works.
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#1281 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - We're going to need to do it the long way
#1282 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16836&ProdId=2301&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers
#1283 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Download that, unzip it to a folder. Go to your device manager. Right click on the video card, choose Update drivers. You'll want to point the wizard to the driver you unzipped
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#1285 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Also, with the .bat, you needed to download minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download
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#1287 [17:35] <nekronuke> Dayle?
#1288 [17:36] <nekronuke> Dayle: i have a fix, if it isnt already
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#1291 [17:44] <paleye0> i need minecraft help :(
#1292 [17:44] <Wug> hurrlo everyone
#1293 [17:44] <Wug> paleye0: whats wrong
#1294 [17:44] <rumpler> I am having trouble installing Minecraft. I paid for an account but everytime I try to install the software I go to a log in screen and when I type my username and password is says I am not a premium member and nothing happens
#1295 [17:45] <paleye0> my minecraft says "cant resolve hostname" when i try to get online
#1296 [17:45] <Wug> paleye0: is this when connecting to a server or when logging in
#1297 [17:45] <Wug> ??> rumpler payment/stopped
#1298 [17:46] <Wug> ??> rumpler stopped/payment
#1299 [17:46] <Wug> uhh h/o
#1300 [17:46] <Wug> ??< index
#1301 [17:46] <paleye0> when connecting to a server my friend is able to get on the same server thats what stumps me
#1302 [17:46] <rumpler> I received a message stating that it had gone through and it would take up to one hour for my account to be updated
#1303 [17:46] <RolanDecoy> how long ago was that
#1304 [17:46] <Wug> rumpler: it sometimes takes longer
#1305 [17:46] <Wug> ??< payment
#1306 [17:47] <rumpler> can you tell if I have a valid account?
#1307 [17:48] <Wug> rumpler: we can check yes
#1308 [17:48] <rumpler> I did receive several error messages when I tried to pay at first, but when I got that message I thought it was successful
#1309 [17:48] <Wug> but I suspect the payment didn't go through because it was stopped by your bank or credit card company
#1310 [17:48] <Wug> happens all the time because the payment to mojang is an international transaction
#1311 [17:49] <rumpler> Ok, that is probably it. I will check with my bank. Thanks
#1312 [17:49] <paleye0> :(
#1313 [17:50] <Wug> paleye0: double check the url
#1314 [17:50] <paleye0> i did like three times
#1315 [17:50] <Wug> also if its a hamachi server (starts with 5.) then it probably sucks anyway
#1316 [17:50] <paleye0> no i bought a server from i website
#1317 [17:51] <Wug> what's the address
#1318 [17:51] <paleye0> 8.17.251.170
#1319 [17:51] <paleye0> i got it i had to change my host file
#1320 [17:52] <Wug> paleye0: seems to be a 1.9 prerelease server
#1321 [17:52] <Wug> ... what were you doing in your hosts file
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#1328 [18:06] <ShadowBlaze18> there is an imposter
#1329 [18:06] <ShadowBlaze18> ./join #mc help
#1330 [18:07] <ShadowBlaze18> it's fake -_-
#1331 [18:07] <ShadowBlaze18> this is real chat
#1332 [18:07] <ShadowBlaze18> please help me
#1333 [18:07] <ShadowBlaze18> I have a question
#1334 [18:07] <RolanDecoy> ...ask...
#1335 [18:08] <ShadowBlaze18> if I setup a minecraft server will my computer crash th actual pc?
#1336 [18:08] <ShadowBlaze18> *the
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#1338 [18:08] <RolanDecoy> nah, just the application
#1339 [18:08] <ShadowBlaze18> oh good!
#1340 [18:08] <ShadowBlaze18> I don't want to break my family's computer
#1341 [18:08] <ShadowBlaze18> thats good news
#1342 [18:08] <RolanDecoy> server software wouldnt be any good if it did crash a computer ;-)
#1343 [18:09] <ShadowBlaze18> can I save a server to my hardrive?
#1344 [18:09] <RolanDecoy> how do you mean?
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#1346 [18:09] <RolanDecoy> the world it generates or where to find the server software?
#1347 [18:09] <ShadowBlaze18> like save the game server the map to my pc
#1348 [18:09] <ShadowBlaze18> the world it generates and the actions people do
#1349 [18:09] <RolanDecoy> its a folder with the same name you gave the world
#1350 [18:10] <ShadowBlaze18> oh
#1351 [18:10] <RolanDecoy> inside the same folder you run your server from
#1352 [18:10] <RolanDecoy> same goes for player data
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#1354 [18:10] <RolanDecoy> not sure about im-/exporting said data though, never 'fooled around' with it...
#1355 [18:10] <ShadowBlaze18> ok so if I run a server on my computer it will not crash my computer because my computer is going to host it, NOT a third party
#1356 [18:11] <RolanDecoy> nope, IF it crashes, it crashes only the server program, not the computer
#1357 [18:11] <ShadowBlaze18> kk
#1358 [18:11] <ShadowBlaze18> thanx
#1359 [18:11] <RolanDecoy> its part of the whole JAVA thing, virtual machine and everything
#1360 [18:12] <ShadowBlaze18> I am relieved cause I want to make a private server with my friends but I'm not sure if my computer can host it or it's too much for the system we have a good desktop with a tyrabyte of memory
#1361 [18:12] <RolanDecoy> what it actually does is crash a simulated computer within your computer
#1362 [18:12] <ShadowBlaze18> oh
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#1364 [18:13] <ShadowBlaze18> what do you mean?
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#1366 [18:13] <Esnemahu> Hello
#1367 [18:13] <ShadowBlaze18> hia
#1368 [18:13] <guest-712997-46221> how do i change my name?#
#1369 [18:13] <ShadowBlaze18> ./nick
#1370 [18:13] <ShadowBlaze18> without .
#1371 [18:13] <mchugh21> where can i talk about mods?
#1372 [18:13] <ShadowBlaze18> ./nick <nickname>
#1373 [18:13] <RolanDecoy> JAVA is a virtual machine, which means it acts like it is a computer that is the same for everyone using it, which is probably why Mojang uses it
#1374 [18:14] <Esnemahu> I need some help, please - i get the "failed to launch fatal error occurred 4" error and all the help does not work. i had no installation of minecraft before!! it is my first time. i bought it today and now i am very upset :(
#1375 [18:14] <mchugh21> where are the mods tab?
#1376 [18:14] <RolanDecoy> essentially it is a simulation of a computer performed by your computer, so if it crashes, it crashes the simulation
#1377 [18:14] <ShadowBlaze18> now I have at&t broadband it is not good it can not hold two people playing roblox on two different computers
#1378 [18:14] <ShadowBlaze18> will it work with mc?
#1379 [18:15] <ShadowBlaze18> in my home
#1380 [18:15] <ShadowBlaze18> the at&t broadband is in my home
#1381 [18:15] <mchugh21> is there a mod that makes minecraft sound better?
#1382 [18:15] <RolanDecoy> Esnemahu, is that all of the error message?
#1383 [18:16] <ShadowBlaze18> we have enthernet 2
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#1385 [18:16] <ShadowBlaze18> with 2wire
#1386 [18:17] <ShadowBlaze18> gateway.2wire.net
#1387 [18:17] <Esnemahu> @RolanDecoy: After logging in and the message "downloading packages" the message comes up: "Failed to launch - Fatal error occured (4): null"
#1388 [18:17] <ShadowBlaze18> http://adf.ly/3Kufl
#1389 [18:17] <ShadowBlaze18> Broadband Link Connection Speed: • Incoming: 6016 kbps • Outgoing: 768 kbps
#1390 [18:17] <Esnemahu> deleting the folder und downloading the exe again does not help... playing in browser does not help, too
#1391 [18:17] <ShadowBlaze18> that good enough for mc server?
#1392 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> ShadowBlaze18 - No.
#1393 [18:18] <ShadowBlaze18> awww whats the requirements?
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#1395 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> 800 kilobits per player you want to host
#1396 [18:18] <ShadowBlaze18> stupid broadband
#1397 [18:18] <ShadowBlaze18> yikes
#1398 [18:18] <RolanDecoy> sry Esnemahu, no idea...
#1399 [18:18] <ShadowBlaze18> who has that kind of server broadband
#1400 [18:18] <ShadowBlaze18> thats a supercomputer
#1401 [18:18] <RolanDecoy> sounds serious though...
#1402 [18:19] <TheNoodle> wat.
#1403 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> No.. it just means your ISP's crap
#1404 [18:19] <RolanDecoy> lol
#1405 [18:19] <Bowman04> I've been getting You can not use your credit/debit card for the next 24 hours. everytime I try purchasing Minecraft and I know I have enough money ...
#1406 [18:19] <ShadowBlaze18> ISP?
#1407 [18:19] <TheNoodle> Grey, it depends on the country/area tbh.
#1408 [18:19] <RolanDecoy> Internet Service Provider
#1409 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> The company you're getting your internet service from
#1410 [18:19] <ShadowBlaze18> at&t
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#1412 [18:19] <ShadowBlaze18> ours is at&t
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#1414 [18:19] <ShadowBlaze18> in U.S.
#1415 [18:20] <ShadowBlaze18> Fully Operational DSL Link: Connected Internet: Connected Connection Speed: • Incoming: 6016 kbps • Outgoing: 768 kbps
#1416 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> I'm getting about 3-5 megabits of upload here in Michigan, that's about 3000-5000kbps upload
#1417 [18:20] <RolanDecoy> Even so, it should be enough for the server to show up in your clients server list and ping it
#1418 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> And that's slow.
#1419 [18:21] <RolanDecoy> 3mb/s here in the Netherlands
#1420 [18:21] <RolanDecoy> on a bad day...
#1421 [18:21] <TheNoodle> 10gbps here
#1422 [18:21] <TheNoodle> university \o/
#1423 [18:21] <ShadowBlaze18> @greyVulpine what is your internet provider and brodband?
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#1425 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Comcast, cable
#1426 [18:21] <RolanDecoy> but even so, the only teacher is experience, so just try it and see how far your get
#1427 [18:22] <ShadowBlaze18> oh well that explains it
#1428 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Won't get far, trust me.
#1429 [18:22] <mchugh21> i cant talk on the genral discussion page?
#1430 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Need to register your nickname to talk in #minecraft
#1431 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> /ns help register
#1432 [18:22] <ShadowBlaze18> does at&t suck for mc?
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#1434 [18:22] <RolanDecoy> well, I have a lil private one here limited to 500kb/s and I can play fine with 3 ppl max
#1435 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> To play, no. To host a server on? You won't be hosting a server with 768k/s upload
#1436 [18:23] <RolanDecoy> so it really depends on what your planning to do ;-)
#1437 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> RolanDecoy - kilobits or kilobytes
#1438 [18:23] <RolanDecoy> bits
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#1440 [18:23] <RolanDecoy> small b is always bits
#1441 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> There's a massive difference.
#1442 [18:23] <mchugh21> REGISTER raffles mchug21@live.co.uk
#1443 [18:23] <ShadowBlaze18> I want to make a fully playable server up to 5 players
#1444 [18:23] <RolanDecoy> i know
#1445 [18:23] <ORAGELEMUR> making a server has been made easier
#1446 [18:23] <ORAGELEMUR> its just a .exe file now
#1447 [18:23] <RolanDecoy> I think you should be able to with your specs
#1448 [18:23] <TheNoodle> mchugh21, you need to add /msg nickserv before that.
#1449 [18:23] <RolanDecoy> agreed
#1450 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> As long as people on the server don't get too far away, that's already kinda pushing it
#1451 [18:24] <Bean> Hey, I'm Beanisawsome1/Beanisawsome2 (You can probably tell from my name. ^_^) and I'm not getting any sound in Minecraft classic yet the sound is enabled and my speakers are on. I tried using the older version of java aswell. Any help? o_o
#1452 [18:24] <Bean> (And yes, I did google, didn't help)
#1453 [18:24] <ORAGELEMUR> you could make a small area encased in bedrock to limit how far people go (without h44x)
#1454 [18:24] <RolanDecoy> lol
#1455 [18:24] <Dayle> Hey Greyvulpine i only just seen your previous messages, I found the .jar, I didnt realise there was any other downloads, And i ran the .bat and it runs now, Obviously with expected lag, But its playable for now while im away from home on my Laptop, Just wanted to try it out untill im home at my desktop
#1456 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - That's good to hear
#1457 [18:25] <ShadowBlaze18> Sign in Web Images Groups News more » Advanced Search Preferences Search: the web pages from Chuck's Beard Web Google won't search for Chuck Norris because it knows you don't find Chuck Norris, he finds you. No standard web pages containing all your search terms were found. Your search - Chuck Norris - did not match any documents. Suggestions: Run, before he finds you Try a different person
#1458 [18:25] <ORAGELEMUR> :D
#1459 [18:25] <ShadowBlaze18> lol
#1460 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> You may want to look into a better computer in the near future though Dayle.
#1461 [18:25] <Bean> Please??? :(
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#1463 [18:25] <RolanDecoy> Bean, no idea...
#1464 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Dayle - Your computer's getting kinda old there
#1465 [18:25] <RolanDecoy> but the higher JAVA version the better
#1466 [18:26] <RolanDecoy> compatibility and all that
#1467 [18:26] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1467 [18:26] <RolanDecoy> I need a cig
#1468 [18:26] <Bean> I did tried that with the newest version available.
#1469 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Bean - And what version is that?
#1470 [18:26] <Bean> Java 6 update 27.
#1471 [18:26] <ShadowBlaze18> on google type in "google chuck norris" > im feeling lucky
#1472 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Bean - Could you try clearing your browser's cache and temp files? perhaps try a different browser?
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#1474 [18:27] <RolanDecoy> that is IF you run from your browser
#1475 [18:27] <Bean> I could, but at the same time, I want to use Firefox, but thanks.
#1476 [18:27] <Bean> This also happens with World of Minecraft.
#1477 [18:28] <Bean> (Which is the offline version of Minecraft Classic)
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#1479 [18:28] <RolanDecoy> lol, didn't know bout that one
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#1481 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> We know, and we don't support WoM here.
#1482 [18:28] <ShadowBlaze18> what should I set my hypercam fps too for no sound lagand to record mc smoothly?
#1483 [18:28] <ShadowBlaze18> *lag and
#1484 [18:28] <RolanDecoy> might just wanna register and play the 1.8.1 beta
#1485 [18:28] <Bean> Yeah, but WoM uses the same Minecraft Classic as in the website.
#1486 [18:28] <Bean> and I can't get the 1.8.1 just yet.
#1487 [18:29] <RolanDecoy> I installed it at a friends house not long ago, and he could play it without buying. He still did though...after playing for like 3 days
#1488 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> It also packages several cheats and other mods with it
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#1490 [18:29] <MakeOurDay> Hello everyone. Can anyone help me with a Minecraft error I keep getting? The game keeps on crashing and pastes an hs-err message on my desktop. Please help.
#1491 [18:29] <RolanDecoy> what message
#1492 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> MakeOurDay - Pastebin.com it please
#1493 [18:30] <Bean> RolanDecoy, Isn't that priating?
#1494 [18:30] <Bean> (Stealing online stuff)
#1495 [18:30] <RolanDecoy> nope
#1496 [18:30] <ShadowBlaze18> fps record:10 fps playback:10 is something wrong it's not smooth with mc?
#1497 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Technically is
#1498 [18:30] <RolanDecoy> its not stealing either
#1499 [18:30] <MakeOurDay> I keep on deleting them, I'll go get one.
#1500 [18:30] <TheNoodle> It is, however, software piracy.
#1501 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> He didn't pay for it, you downloaded it onto his computer.
#1502 [18:30] <RolanDecoy> i downloaded it from the official website, where i bought it, he registered a new account and he could play np
#1503 [18:30] <Bean> oh
#1504 [18:30] <ShadowBlaze18> fps record:10 fps playback:10 is something wrong it's not smooth with mc?
#1505 [18:30] <RolanDecoy> and besides, he has payed now
#1506 [18:30] <Bean> I don't have my money with me. ;')
#1507 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Force update, those files go away, he won't be able to get the files
#1508 [18:31] <Bean> ;'(*
#1509 [18:31] <RolanDecoy> lol
#1510 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> It would be piracy
#1511 [18:31] <ShadowBlaze18> fps record:10 fps playback:10 is something wrong it's not smooth with mc?
#1512 [18:31] <RolanDecoy> nope
#1513 [18:31] <TheNoodle> + he can't update.
#1514 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Shadow386 - Stop posting over and over again
#1515 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> ShadowBlaze18
#1516 [18:31] <ShadowBlaze18> sorry
#1517 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> ShadowBlaze18 - We can read you the first time, and the second time
#1518 [18:31] <ShadowBlaze18> my bad
#1519 [18:31] <ShadowBlaze18> sorry
#1520 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> ShadowBlaze18 - Computer specs?
#1521 [18:31] <Shadow386> GreyVulpine, make me!
#1522 [18:31] <ShadowBlaze18> errr I just did it again!'
#1523 [18:31] <ShadowBlaze18> I just repeated
#1524 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> !k Shadow386
#1525 [18:31] * GreyBot kicked Shadow386 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hadow386 :<Kicks:837>)
#1526 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> :P
#1527 [18:31] <ShadowBlaze18> what
#1528 [18:31] * Shadow386 [Shadow386@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1529 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> :)
#1530 [18:32] <Shadow386> Haters gonna hate
#1531 [18:32] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1531 [18:32] <RolanDecoy> true he cant update, but piracy requires the use of 3rd party software to circumvent security either by cracker tool or cracked .exe. This was not the case.
#1532 [18:32] <ShadowBlaze18> shadow386 did nothing
#1533 [18:32] * Shadow386 eats GreyVulpine's hat
#1533 [18:32] <ShadowBlaze18> why kick him?
#1534 [18:32] <ShadowBlaze18> why kick shadow 386?
#1535 [18:32] <RolanDecoy> too many shadows?
#1536 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> RolanDecoy - You're still circumventing the ease of access by being able to play anywhere, and sharing the files with an unauthorized person who didn't pay for the game
#1537 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Morals aside, that's still technically piracy
#1538 [18:33] <RolanDecoy> ...software downloaded directly from the developer and used in the manner specified by said developer
#1539 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Software downloaded directly onto a computer using your account, which was never meant to be shared with others.
#1540 [18:33] <ShadowBlaze18> grey why did kick shadow386?
#1541 [18:33] <RolanDecoy> uhm, no, not downloaded with my account
#1542 [18:33] <GreyVulpine> Why even have accounts at all then? Why not just one person buying the account, and sharing the game files everywhere?
#1543 [18:33] <Shadow386> ShadowBlaze18, it doesnt matter to me
#1544 [18:33] <RolanDecoy> lol
#1545 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> RolanDecoy - Actually, yes.
#1546 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> RolanDecoy - Try downloading the launcher, and logging in with an account that isn't premium
#1547 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> You won't be able to get the files
#1548 [18:34] <ShadowBlaze18> well it's still rude for no reason
#1549 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> You won't be able to get offline files at all without a premium account
#1550 [18:34] <RolanDecoy> for exactly the same reason, games worth paying for will be payed for, by me at least
#1551 [18:34] * Wug reserves the right to ban people who are trolling in other channels
#1551 [18:34] * DatMarv [DatMarv@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1552 [18:34] <DatMarv> hey!
#1553 [18:35] <DatMarv> i've a problem with the 1.9pre4..
#1554 [18:35] <RolanDecoy> but ya, you caught, I did log in first to demonstrate the game ;-p
#1555 [18:35] * GreyVulpine points at /topic
#1555 [18:35] <DatMarv> my Computer is shutting down after 15 minutes playing SMP, i've a Win XP 32bit OS
#1556 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> RolanDecoy - Which is how he got the files onto his computer..
#1557 [18:35] <RolanDecoy> exactly
#1558 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> RolanDecoy - And why he could play without paying. Which is still piracy
#1559 [18:35] <Shadow386> DatMarv, cpu and ram?
#1560 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> RolanDecoy - But all matters aside, he paid for it, and is all good
#1561 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Right?
#1562 [18:36] <RolanDecoy> exactly, I got a new customer in ;-)
#1563 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Then it's all good.
#1564 [18:36] <DatMarv> Shadow386, a fking AMD Athlon II X2 240 Processor with 3,2GB Ram :D
#1565 [18:36] * GreyVulpine has been jaded by people pirating minecraft too many times here, and demanding that we 'fix' whatever the pirated/cracked copy broke
#1565 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> So sorry if I seem confrontational about that topic
#1566 [18:37] <RolanDecoy> lol, agreed
#1567 [18:37] <Shadow386> Not bad, GPU?
#1568 [18:37] <DatMarv> GPU ?
#1569 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> graphics card
#1570 [18:37] <Shadow386> ^
#1571 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> What video card do you have in the system
#1572 [18:37] <RolanDecoy> nah I understand, and I share your feelings, just wanted to see if you would ask the right questions ;-)
#1573 [18:37] <DatMarv> ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
#1574 [18:37] <ShadowBlaze18> my brother can play in offline mode full version which I think is wierd.
#1575 [18:37] <Shadow386> Hmm
#1576 [18:38] <ShadowBlaze18> I bought the game but he didn't and he doesn't have my account
#1577 [18:38] <Shadow386> DatMarv, is there an error that comes up?
#1578 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> ShadowBlaze18 - You logged into minecraft onto his account?
#1579 [18:38] <DatMarv> nope, the computer will shutdown without bluescreen, errors or something else
#1580 [18:38] <RolanDecoy> same situation, either cracked 1.8 or a payed someone logged in with him
#1581 [18:38] <Shadow386> DatMarv, if it's your computer shutting down, something else could be wrong, like the graphics card overheating
#1582 [18:39] <ShadowBlaze18> on my account I logged in to the computer then my brother just clicks login and it says fail then he just clicks play offline and plays
#1583 [18:39] <DatMarv> :/ could be.. but its only with the pre4
#1584 [18:39] <RolanDecoy> DatMarv, any overclocking involved?
#1585 [18:39] <ShadowBlaze18> my brother doesn't have full version
#1586 [18:39] <ShadowBlaze18> he is not usin g my account
#1587 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> if it's on the same computer, that's why
#1588 [18:39] <Shadow386> ShadowBlaze18, if you have a bought account, then the files to play are installed, which means anyone with or without an account on that pc can play
#1589 [18:39] <ShadowBlaze18> oh
#1590 [18:39] <RolanDecoy> yep
#1591 [18:40] <ShadowBlaze18> cool
#1592 [18:40] <Shadow386> DatMarv, maybe in pre4 there's a leak that's overdoing more than your computer can handle
#1593 [18:40] <DatMarv> i can make my fans faster..
#1594 [18:40] <DatMarv> :/
#1595 [18:40] <RolanDecoy> basically everything that was told me a dozen lines ago ;-)
#1596 [18:40] <DatMarv> is there a way to fix it ?
#1597 [18:40] <DatMarv> except of buying new hardware..
#1598 [18:40] <Shadow386> wait till minecraft is released next month, cause they're doing optimization now
#1599 [18:40] <RolanDecoy> JAVA should prevent any such errors and the application should crash, not the computer
#1600 [18:40] <Wug> wugbot's factoid database can now be searched
#1601 [18:41] <Wug> this feature does not yet exist in mainstream wugbot, it's in the current experimental build
#1602 [18:41] <DatMarv> i'll run ccleaner, maybe it will help :/
#1603 [18:41] <RolanDecoy> so its either a JAVA problem or a dormant problem on the client PC, but nothing MC related
#1604 [18:41] <TheNoodle> Wug, nice.
#1605 [18:41] <DatMarv> aww, allright..
#1606 [18:41] <ShadowBlaze18> what should my fps be in hypercam for a smooth video with mc? info: record fps:10 playback fps:10
#1607 [18:42] <RolanDecoy> ...coffee...
#1608 [18:42] <ShadowBlaze18> bye
#1609 [18:42] <Wug> DatMarv: try doing a full reinstall of the graphicss ....
#1610 [18:42] <Wug> drivers
#1611 [18:42] <Wug> drat
#1612 [18:42] * Shadow386 hides before more derps come asking for help
#1612 [18:42] <RolanDecoy> he ran
#1613 [18:42] * GreyVulpine also hides behind Shadow386
#1613 [18:42] <RolanDecoy> lol
#1614 [18:43] * Shadow386 plays TF2 with GreyVulpine
#1614 [18:43] <RolanDecoy> I really should learn more about irc...
#1615 [18:43] * TheNoodle nods
#1615 [18:43] * GreyVulpine stabs Shadow386 in the back and takes his gun.
#1615 [18:43] <RolanDecoy> so, can anyone help me now?
#1616 [18:43] <RolanDecoy> lol
#1617 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> You had a problem?
#1618 [18:43] <RolanDecoy> ya...
#1619 [18:43] * Shadow386 stabs GreyVulpine in the back and steals his hat
#1619 [18:43] <RolanDecoy> small, annoying lil thing
#1620 [18:44] <RolanDecoy> graphic glitches on 1.8.1 on largest and 2nd largest fog distances
#1621 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Got any screenshots?
#1622 [18:44] <Shadow386> ^
#1623 [18:44] <RolanDecoy> if you gimme a sec...
#1624 [18:44] * Shadow386 waits a second
#1624 [18:44] <Shadow386> too long
#1625 [18:44] * Shadow386 hides
#1625 [18:45] * GreyVulpine counter-stabs Shadow386 and takes his credit card, charges all the TF2 hats
#1625 [18:45] <Wug> what else have I been saying I'd make wugbot do
#1626 [18:45] * Shadow386 backstabs VoxelHead and puts his credit card in my pocket as I do not own one
#1626 [18:45] * Wug ponders
#1626 [18:45] <TheNoodle> Dance?
#1627 [18:45] <Wug> server ping
#1628 [18:45] <TheNoodle> a feature box!
#1629 [18:45] <TheNoodle> ;suggest
#1630 [18:46] <Wug> I can make that work already with ;queue and ;alias
#1631 [18:46] <RolanDecoy> I live in a different timezone, longer seconds ;-)
#1632 [18:46] <TheNoodle> wat.
#1633 [18:46] <Shadow386> unless you live on the moon...
#1634 [18:47] <deviantgeek> what is the smallest vertical double piston extender?
#1635 [18:48] <Shadow386> explain
#1636 [18:49] <RolanDecoy> http://82.74.118.166/Graphic%20Glitch.bmp
#1637 [18:49] <Shadow386> that IS odd, it's loading the image from the bottom up
#1638 [18:49] <Shadow386> whoa
#1639 [18:49] <Shadow386> I...uh...
#1640 [18:49] <RolanDecoy> that is browser dependant, lol
#1641 [18:50] <Shadow386> that's only on normal and far distance?
#1642 [18:50] <RolanDecoy> this is the same problem I had with Black & White, the first b&w with newer video cards
#1643 [18:50] <Shadow386> also, why save in bmp?
#1644 [18:50] <RolanDecoy> ....
#1645 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Whoa...
#1646 [18:50] <RolanDecoy> cuz pdf would take too long...
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#1648 [18:50] <Shadow386> RolanDecoy, it's called PNG
#1649 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> Could you possibly run a furmark benchmark on it?
#1650 [18:51] <RolanDecoy> yaya, mspain.exe
#1651 [18:51] <Shadow386> anyways, I think your graphics card is derp if it's happening in other games
#1652 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> That's gotta be.. yeah, graphics card
#1653 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/ -- OpenGL stress test for your GPU
#1654 [18:51] <RolanDecoy> nah, it only happened in Black & White 1, never had it with other games, even MS-DOS games
#1655 [18:51] <GreyVulpine> If it craps out there as well, you've got a problem with OpenGL on your card or drivers
#1656 [18:51] <RolanDecoy> ya, even MS-DOS had 3d games ;-)
#1657 [18:52] <RolanDecoy> B&W is DirectX
#1658 [18:52] <Shadow386> try it anyways
#1659 [18:52] <RolanDecoy> drivers been updated thrice this week
#1660 [18:52] <RolanDecoy> so thats not it
#1661 [18:53] <Shadow386> ...
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#1663 [18:53] <Shadow386> try it, tell us the results, then if it's not that, maybe your video card is outdated
#1664 [18:53] <RolanDecoy> besides, I remember some post about it on the forums but can't seem to find it any more...it was about this problem being known and worked on...in 1.7.something
#1665 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> I have not seen it glitch that badly since.....
#1666 [18:54] <RolanDecoy> doom 1?
#1667 [18:54] <GreyVulpine> well, my 8800GTS taking a crap and I having to RMA my video card
#1668 [18:54] <RolanDecoy> lol
#1669 [18:55] <RolanDecoy> I was worried there for a second you'd say 'ya'...since Doom only had software rendering...
#1670 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> I got an 8800 gt out of the deal though, so it's all good.
#1671 [18:55] <RolanDecoy> Nvidea GeForce 7900 GTX
#1672 [18:55] <RolanDecoy> lol
#1673 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> EVGA and their lifetime warranties. <3.
#1674 [18:55] <RolanDecoy> a free graphics adapter is always good
#1675 [18:55] <RolanDecoy> and VESA, dont forget VESA
#1676 [18:56] <RolanDecoy> ...and another smoke...brb
#1677 [18:56] <RolanDecoy> ps. seems more like a memory leak or limit to me
#1678 [18:57] <Shadow386> how much memory do you have?
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#1680 [18:57] <DatMarv> there iam again..
#1681 [18:57] <RolanDecoy> max win xp 32bit + 64 on the card
#1682 [18:57] <RolanDecoy> welcome back
#1683 [18:58] <DatMarv> i'd runned ccleaner and deleted some software
#1684 [18:58] <RolanDecoy> 3.18 GB is max on any 32 bit OS, but I have 4GB installed
#1685 [18:58] <Shadow386> so 3gb ram and 64 what on the card?
#1686 [18:58] <RolanDecoy> 64MB
#1687 [18:58] <DatMarv> i'll try to play minecraft now, when i leave the chat then you guys know that it didnt worked ^^
#1688 [18:58] <Shadow386> you just reminded me to get this other PC of mine working again
#1689 [18:58] <RolanDecoy> lol
#1690 [18:59] <Shadow386> wait, you have 64MB on the video card?
#1691 [18:59] <RolanDecoy> prolly should fool around with that JAVA parameters regarding memory limits
#1692 [18:59] <RolanDecoy> ya
#1693 [18:59] <deviantgeek> nothing?
#1694 [18:59] <RolanDecoy> the 7 series didn't have that much on-board mem
#1695 [19:00] <Shadow386> >_>
#1696 [19:00] <Shadow386> how old is your computer?
#1697 [19:00] <RolanDecoy> but still, thats only used by piped objects and textures, and I assume they used instanced objects to limit mem requirements
#1698 [19:01] <RolanDecoy> uhm...which component, lol
#1699 [19:01] <Shadow386> I would suggest trying out newer fresher video cards, as using something as outdated as that could be the cause to your graphical error
#1700 [19:01] <RolanDecoy> the casing is 12 years old, the main board is 2 years old, the memory banks are 4 years old, the modem is 17 years old...
#1701 [19:01] <RolanDecoy> nah, it runs GTAIV perfectly at max
#1702 [19:02] <Shadow386> Minecraft is CPU intensive.
#1703 [19:02] <Shadow386> er, not just CPU, but requires a ton
#1704 [19:02] <RolanDecoy> owya, the CPU is 3 years old
#1705 [19:02] <Shadow386> one sec
#1706 [19:02] <RolanDecoy> 2.8 quad
#1707 [19:02] <Shadow386> 2.8 quad, and you have 4gb of ram, why are you not using a 64bit OS?
#1708 [19:02] <RolanDecoy> saving up
#1709 [19:03] <RolanDecoy> next step in the upgrade list ;-)
#1710 [19:03] <Shadow386> buying OS', LOL
#1711 [19:03] <Shadow386> anyways, http://minecraftirc.net/thread-6.html
#1712 [19:03] <RolanDecoy> [looping back to bit about piracy]
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#1714 [19:03] <Shadow386> Nah, Linux :P
#1715 [19:04] <Shadow386> Although this pc is Win7 64bit
#1716 [19:04] <RolanDecoy> linux has its uses, but that page didn't help at all, lol
#1717 [19:04] <Shadow386> does your graphics match what is required?
#1718 [19:04] <RolanDecoy> ya, easily
#1719 [19:05] <Shadow386> OpenGL 1.3 compliant?
#1720 [19:05] <RolanDecoy> I think I should just tinker with those JAVA parameters bout mem
#1721 [19:05] <RolanDecoy> ya
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#1723 [19:05] <Shadow386> whatever you think would work
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#1725 [19:07] <RolanDecoy> lol
#1726 [19:07] <RolanDecoy> just read my card is even OpenGL 2.1 ready
#1727 [19:07] <RolanDecoy> maybe its TOO advanced....
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#1729 [19:08] <RolanDecoy> I think I scared them away
#1730 [19:10] <RolanDecoy> hmmz...according to in-game debug mem is def not an issue
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#1733 [19:18] <dia> I purchased the premium Minecraft 5 or 6 days ago and still cannot run it. It seems to not download. I made sure that I have the lastest update of Java. What else can I do?
#1734 [19:26] <RolanDecoy> what kind of message do you get?
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#1736 [19:27] <dia> no message, just never seems to finish downloading, freezes up
#1737 [19:27] <DatMarv> ._.
#1738 [19:27] <DatMarv> it isnt working..
#1739 [19:27] <dia> we never even get as far as telling it where to save the dowload
#1740 [19:28] <RolanDecoy> if it does download, it downloads to application data folder in your Documents and Settings
#1741 [19:28] <RolanDecoy> but you should clearly see the download progress and the program should start automatically from the launcher the moment it is done
#1742 [19:29] <RolanDecoy> at what percentage does it freeze?
#1743 [19:29] <RolanDecoy> or doesn't it even start?
#1744 [19:31] <RolanDecoy> DatMarv, can you get a read in the CPU and internal temperatures?
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#1746 [19:32] <DatMarv> the temperature display shows only 23°
#1747 [19:32] <DatMarv> now its 22°, its not overheating
#1748 [19:32] <dia> I don't think it ever even starts, just freezes after I click on download.
#1749 [19:33] <oldtopman> dia: msie?
#1750 [19:33] <oldtopman> ??< index
#1751 [19:33] <RolanDecoy> Datmarv, ya thats way within tolerance
#1752 [19:34] <dia> yes
#1753 [19:35] <oldtopman> ;q oldtopmanserver
#1754 [19:35] <oldtopman> ;dq oldtopmanserver
#1755 [19:35] <RolanDecoy> DatMarv, sry man, didn't try the prerelease... But if your system is stable but your operating system gives you the blues then thats a serious problem with your hardware or your drivers...
#1756 [19:36] <DatMarv> :/
#1757 [19:36] <DatMarv> allright, i'll get the latest drivers for my hardware :3
#1758 [19:37] <RolanDecoy> if that doesn't work you should look for a hardware specialist to check it out. I would, but I doubt your in the neighbourhood...
#1759 [19:37] <oldtopman> Minecraft 1.9-pre4 is released. We will not support it until its stable release
#1760 [19:37] <RolanDecoy> what he said
#1761 [19:37] <RolanDecoy> lol
#1762 [19:37] <dia> any suggestions on why I can't get it to download?
#1763 [19:38] <RolanDecoy> did you download the client or play the browser version?
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#1765 [19:39] <dia> it won't download and when I try to play in the browser, I just get a frozen black screen
#1766 [19:39] <RolanDecoy> possible solutions include checking your router and/or firewall, if you have one, for blocked ports
#1767 [19:39] <RolanDecoy> but even then you should have an error message...
#1768 [19:40] <oldtopman> dia: Did you install java?
#1769 [19:40] <dia> yep, checked the firewall and made sure java is updated, have not received any error messages
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#1771 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> dia - Could you try launching minecraft with a batch file? http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
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#1773 [19:44] <dia> what is the batch file?
#1774 [19:44] <RolanDecoy> you make it with Notepad.exe or a different ASCII based text editor
#1775 [19:45] <dia> what should it do if I try to launch it from your file?
#1776 [19:46] <RolanDecoy> if you're using Windows click Start, Run (or the entry bar at the bottom of the Start menu in Windows Vista or 7) and type Notepad.exe followed by Enter
#1777 [19:46] <RolanDecoy> then type 'java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame pause' and save it as a file ending with .bat
#1778 [19:46] <RolanDecoy> then double click that .bat file to run it and it should run minecraft with more exact memory specifications
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#1780 [19:47] <JeremyM> i have a question
#1781 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> We have answers
#1782 [19:47] <JeremyM> does any one have a link to beta pre 4
#1783 [19:47] <RolanDecoy> ...we hope they're the right ones...
#1784 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> ?? 1.9
#1785 [19:48] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre4/minecraft.jar
#1786 [19:48] <JeremyM> ya
#1787 [19:48] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre4/minecraft_server.jar
#1788 [19:48] <JeremyM> thank you very much
#1789 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Any more questions?
#1790 [19:48] <JeremyM> as of right now not
#1791 [19:48] <RolanDecoy> do you have coffee?
#1792 [19:48] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1792 [19:48] <RolanDecoy> ;-)
#1793 [19:48] <dia> it will me save as a txt file but how do I save as a .bat?
#1794 [19:49] <RolanDecoy> ignore the selection bar and just type in run.bat or anything.bat
#1795 [19:49] <JeremyM> does notch actualy have his own minecraft server
#1796 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> No
#1797 [19:49] <JeremyM> bummer
#1798 [19:50] <RolanDecoy> anything before .bat doesn't really matter but it would be usefull for future reference to name it something appropriate
#1799 [19:50] <JeremyM> i think he should get like a 5000 slot server
#1800 [19:50] <JeremyM> LOL
#1801 [19:50] <RolanDecoy> and I think he does, but prolly not a public server ;-)
#1802 [19:50] <JeremyM> ya
#1803 [19:50] <JeremyM> tbh i think bukkit does a really good job with minecraft servers
#1804 [19:51] <RolanDecoy> on the other hand, such a server would prolly be a Mojang server rather than a mc server
#1805 [19:51] <RolanDecoy> *nothe's server
#1806 [19:51] <JeremyM> ya thats a good point
#1807 [19:51] <JeremyM> it would be hell to admin all the non grief tho
#1808 [19:51] <RolanDecoy> testing, developing and that kinda stuff, we're not suppose to see
#1809 [19:51] <JeremyM> ya
#1810 [19:51] <RolanDecoy> ...yet
#1811 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Not only that, but if Mojang put up a server, they'd get flak for ill spent money and time..
#1812 [19:52] <JeremyM> i was watching a youtube vid
#1813 [19:52] <RolanDecoy> true
#1814 [19:52] <JeremyM> can cows mate more than once
#1815 [19:52] <RolanDecoy> lol
#1816 [19:52] <RolanDecoy> real or mc cows?
#1817 [19:52] <JeremyM> mc
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#1819 [19:52] <sddsfsdf> Paying 1$ paypal to whoever can help me solve my problem with my Buildcraft smp server....
#1820 [19:52] <RolanDecoy> i think they spawn on grass rather than procreate
#1821 [19:53] <JeremyM> well if you give 2 cows wheat they procreate
#1822 [19:53] <JeremyM> its in the pre realse
#1823 [19:53] <RolanDecoy> ...really should try that....
#1824 [19:53] <JeremyM> well 3 as far as i no
#1825 [19:53] <JeremyM> pre 2 - 3 lets you
#1826 [19:53] <RolanDecoy> sry sddsfsdf, I have no xp regarding buildcraft
#1827 [19:54] <JeremyM> if you put wheat infront of animals faces they follow you
#1828 [19:54] <RolanDecoy> curious bout that sky dimension and them dragons...
#1829 [19:54] <JeremyM> :/
#1830 [19:54] <RolanDecoy> moreso than cow and their procreation anyways
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#1832 [19:55] <Mr_Pants> Hello?
#1833 [19:55] <RolanDecoy> and I often wonder why they created different dimensions in the 1st place
#1834 [19:55] <RolanDecoy> hello
#1835 [19:55] <Mr_Pants> Hi
#1836 [19:55] <JeremyM> afk
#1837 [19:55] <JeremyM> thx for help
#1838 [19:55] <RolanDecoy> I try ;-)
#1839 [19:55] <Mr_Pants> Hows your day guys? :)
#1840 [19:56] <Mr_Pants> Or gals..
#1841 [19:56] <RolanDecoy> ...lacking coffee...brb ;-)
#1842 [19:56] <oldtopman> ??> sddsfsdf mods
#1843 [19:56] <VoxelHead> sddsfsdf: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1844 [19:56] <VoxelHead> sddsfsdf: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1845 [19:56] <RolanDecoy> that was late, lol
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#1847 [19:58] <Mr_Pants> Hrmmm...
#1848 [19:59] <dia> ok, when I double click to run the .bat fine, I get a quick flast of a black screen with white text, really quick
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#1850 [20:02] <RolanDecoy> sounds like you were better off without the .bat
#1851 [20:03] <mib_njc78o> um...can someone help me on minecraft?
#1852 [20:03] <RolanDecoy> depends on the question that you will ask now ;-)
#1853 [20:03] <rev-lemon> RolanDecoy whats the trou le ?
#1854 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> dia - Did you put in "pause" as the second line?
#1855 [20:03] <mib_njc78o> well...when i try to run it, it just goes to mojang and freezes
#1856 [20:04] <RolanDecoy> rev-lemon, dia can't get the client to download from the launcher, it just freezes
#1857 [20:04] <Mr_Pants> Hrmmm...
#1858 [20:04] <RolanDecoy> sounds familiar, much like dia's problem
#1859 [20:04] <rev-lemon> oh, well GreyVulpine is helping dia so he/she should be in good hands
#1860 [20:04] <RolanDecoy> ah ok
#1861 [20:04] <mib_njc78o> im using inbrowser, cuz when i download, it's the same problem
#1862 [20:04] <dia> i really appreciate the help, but still can't download it
#1863 [20:05] <mib_njc78o> and the in browser isnt has the repeated problem >.<
#1864 [20:05] <mib_njc78o> it has*
#1865 [20:05] <RolanDecoy> but it does load the launcher, from the downloaded client?
#1866 [20:06] <mib_njc78o> so this is basically what happens when i go to home page and click download
#1867 [20:06] <mib_njc78o> a new screen pops up]
#1868 [20:06] <mib_njc78o> tells me to log in
#1869 [20:06] <RolanDecoy> ya
#1870 [20:06] <Mr_Pants> Yes...
#1871 [20:06] <mib_njc78o> then when i log in, it says it's downloading
#1872 [20:06] <mib_njc78o> after like 1 mins, the screen says mojang
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#1874 [20:07] <mib_njc78o> then it freezes
#1875 [20:07] <dia> from the minecraft home page, click on download, then click on minecraft for windows, here is where we freeze forever!
#1876 [20:07] <rev-lemon> mib_njc78o have you got java uptodate ?
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#1878 [20:07] <Mr_Pants> Notch?
#1879 [20:07] <mib_njc78o> i have java
#1880 [20:07] <mib_njc78o> when i try to download it, it says an error
#1881 [20:08] <mib_njc78o> like update
#1882 [20:08] <rev-lemon> mib_njc78o i ment is it up todate you can have java but i mean latest version
#1883 [20:08] <mib_njc78o> 1.6?
#1884 [20:08] <rev-lemon> hm
#1885 [20:08] <dia> we have update java to the lastest version, but no change
#1886 [20:08] <rev-lemon> ??> mib_njc78o win/javara
#1887 [20:08] <VoxelHead> mib_njc78o: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1888 [20:08] <VoxelHead> mib_njc78o: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#1889 [20:09] <dia> so ive been trying to fix this for 5 days now, and here's my problem:
#1890 [20:09] <mib_njc78o> to download java, i go to google, then type download java, then an official looking page with java icon says agree and start downloading
#1891 [20:09] <mib_njc78o> then i download...
#1892 [20:10] <mib_njc78o> and then a new small screen pops up and says error
#1893 [20:10] <rev-lemon> mib_njc78o the program that i want you to get should enable you to uninstall it,
#1894 [20:10] <rev-lemon> dia have you got the latest java installed ?
#1895 [20:10] <mib_njc78o> im clicking the link, where in the website can i uninstall?
#1896 [20:11] <rev-lemon> mib_njc78o you have to get the program and download javara < program and then uninstall java
#1897 [20:11] <mib_njc78o> where can i download it?
#1898 [20:11] <rev-lemon> from the link vox supplied
#1899 [20:11] <dia> I go to the minecraft site, i click download, then i click the link under minecraft for windows (which is what I have), and then it just freezes. The little internet progress bar goes about halfway and just stops, saying that it's waiting for the link to respond. i don't even get to choose where to save it, my computer just freezes. I have updated java and
#1900 [20:11] <RolanDecoy> bout 10 lines ago
#1901 [20:12] <dia> made sure that our firewalls are not blocking it, what can I do to fix this?
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#1903 [20:12] <dia> I just need it to download, and ive tried many times over the past week, and the same exact thing happens each time
#1904 [20:12] <rev-lemon> dia what broswer are you trying to download it with and is your antivirus program possibly trying to block it
#1905 [20:12] <RolanDecoy> dia, that sounds like a browser problem, your not even in JAVA in that stage. That's just a basic ftp download
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#1907 [20:13] <rev-lemon> dia ok, first can you goto minecraft.net and login, click in broswer < should enable you to play in a broswer instead of downloading the client >?
#1908 [20:13] <dia> i have internet explorer, and i made sure that my antivirus program isnt blocking it, we don't even get any errors
#1909 [20:13] <mib_njc78o> im gonna restart my computer now, see if it's any good
#1910 [20:14] <rev-lemon> dia try playing the game in your broswer ?
#1911 [20:14] <dia> yes, i can play in the browser, just a few minutes ago the browser version worked for the first time, but i am not always where i can easily access the internet
#1912 [20:14] <rev-lemon> dia, fair enough
#1913 [20:15] <rev-lemon> dia what broswers ie like firefox have you tryed to download the file with ?
#1914 [20:15] <RolanDecoy> Internet Explorer, Firefox, Google Chrome
#1915 [20:15] <mib_oxqvq9> Hello I bought the new minecraft game for my 10 year old son and we cant get it to work we even installed the updated java. It said Crashed when a black screen popped up
#1916 [20:15] <dia> internet explorer is the only browser we have
#1917 [20:15] <mib_oxqvq9> We use firefox
#1918 [20:15] <rev-lemon> mib_oxqvq9 can you goto java.com and verrify your version and tell me which one it is ?
#1919 [20:16] <rev-lemon> RolanDecoy is all those freezing ?
#1920 [20:16] <mib_oxqvq9> We used mac computers and we have operating system 10.5.8
#1921 [20:16] <RolanDecoy> no, i was just giving some examples of known browsers ;-)
#1922 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> ?? mac/10.5.8
#1923 [20:16] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#1924 [20:16] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#1925 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1926 [20:16] <dia> @mib_oxqvq9 i am having somewhat of the same issue, but i don't even get an error message
#1927 [20:17] <rev-lemon> ty GreyVulpine and sorry for taking over :(
#1928 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Nah... I'm a bit busy right now
#1929 [20:17] <rev-lemon> ok
#1930 [20:17] <rev-lemon> dia / windows / mac ?
#1931 [20:17] <dia> windows
#1932 [20:17] <rev-lemon> hm
#1933 [20:17] <rev-lemon> ok have you done a dxdiag ?
#1934 [20:17] <dia> *windows xp
#1935 [20:17] <RolanDecoy> not a directx problem
#1936 [20:17] <dia> what is that?
#1937 [20:17] <rev-lemon> its a program that will allow me to see your specs of your pc
#1938 [20:18] <rev-lemon> ??> dia win/dxdiag
#1939 [20:18] <VoxelHead> dia: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1940 [20:18] <RolanDecoy> the browser hangs when downloading the launcher
#1941 [20:18] <VoxelHead> dia: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1942 [20:18] <rev-lemon> winkey is windows key ie between alt + ctrl / irc is what your chatting in now
#1943 [20:18] <dia> ill try that, is it safe?
#1944 [20:19] <RolanDecoy> yes
#1945 [20:19] <rev-lemon> yes
#1946 [20:19] <dia> where is the win key on a dell laptop?
#1947 [20:19] <RolanDecoy> oi
#1948 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> Same place, between the ctrl and alt keys, lower left
#1949 [20:19] <rev-lemon> still should be down the bottem prob next to the spacebar, should look like a windows logo
#1950 [20:19] <RolanDecoy> it looks like a black & white windows logo
#1951 [20:20] <dia> just a second
#1952 [20:20] <RolanDecoy> might be use in conjunction with the FN key
#1953 [20:20] <RolanDecoy> 4 little boxes in a wavy diamond formation
#1954 [20:21] <rev-lemon> thats prob it
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#1956 [20:21] <dia> just a second, I'm trying it
#1957 [20:21] <RolanDecoy> you know another key like that? ;-)
#1958 [20:22] <rev-lemon> RolanDecoy its basicly opening your start menu you can type in dxdiag down the bottem but on xp, it should be start menu / run / in box dxdiag
#1959 [20:22] <rev-lemon> enter
#1960 [20:22] <RolanDecoy> but ehrm, why say use the winkey, why not go to the Start menu ;-)
#1961 [20:22] <RolanDecoy> exactly
#1962 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Because 2k/xp has the run command, vista, 7, has the search bar.
#1963 [20:22] <rev-lemon> RolanDecoy because the key is almost universal and works on all widnows
#1964 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> All windows editions can pull up the run command with the Win key
#1965 [20:22] <RolanDecoy> actually that search bar is the exact same thing ;-)
#1966 [20:23] <RolanDecoy> you can run commands from it just like the Run button
#1967 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> We don't always know which windows version they run
#1968 [20:23] <dia> getting it on pastebin.com
#1969 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> We ask people what OS they run, they usually always say, "Windows"
#1970 [20:23] <rev-lemon> dia just do what you have to do, and give us the http link please
#1971 [20:23] <TheNoodle> And instead of having to have different factoids the winkey allows us to have one.
#1972 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1973 [20:23] <RolanDecoy> but not all keyboards have a windows key
#1974 [20:23] <dia> working on t
#1975 [20:23] <dia> *it
#1976 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> RolanDecoy - The vast majority of modern keyboards do
#1977 [20:25] <TheNoodle> Even keyboards provided by apple have an equivelant.
#1978 [20:26] <dia> here's the link: http://pastebin.com/ZWiWikQt
#1979 [20:26] <RolanDecoy> still, the first thing you learn in computer customer support is that you don't know what kind of hardware the client uses and therefor you use the only constant any GUI based OS has, which is the cursor on the screen.
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#1981 [20:26] <rev-lemon> dia its windows vista not xp :P
#1982 [20:27] <dia> sorry, my brother's the one having the issue, i'm just typing what he says :P
#1983 [20:27] <RolanDecoy> so actually the only right method would be telling a client to move their mouse over the start menu and click
#1984 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> RolanDecoy - Linux KDE. where's your cursor now?
#1985 [20:28] <RolanDecoy> Im not a linux user, so I wouldn't know, nor would I even try to solve the problem
#1986 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> There is no constant in computers. You never assume anything in computer support.
#1987 [20:28] <rev-lemon> dia http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/chpsts/965m/ < could you go here and on latest downloads click the automatic detect and update feature of that site please
#1988 [20:28] <RolanDecoy> ya bad use of words there, I meant Windows OS's
#1989 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> You do as best as you can, with the tools you're provided with, and the person on the other end of the line, doesn't have the lifetime of computer knowledge you do
#1990 [20:29] <RolanDecoy> true
#1991 [20:29] <RolanDecoy> but some knowledge of ITIL does help a long way
#1992 [20:31] <RolanDecoy> but I'll shut up now and let rev-lemon help dia without all this clutter in the chat ;-)
#1993 [20:31] * GreyVulpine nods
#1993 [20:31] <dia> i'm going to the site now
#1994 [20:32] <dia> now do i check for the updates
#1995 [20:32] <dia> *?
#1996 [20:32] <rev-lemon> if thats what it allows please do
#1997 [20:32] <dia> k, just a sec
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#1999 [20:35] <dia> weird, it stopped at the exact same place that minecraft did, the green internet progress bar is halfway and not making any progress
#2000 [20:35] <dia> at all anymore
#2001 [20:35] <gieves> Whats happening?\
#2002 [20:35] <dia> talking to rev-lemon
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#2004 [20:35] <rev-lemon> dia so its crashes as well correct ?
#2005 [20:35] <RolanDecoy> rev-lemon solving dia's problems
#2006 [20:35] <rev-lemon> im trying to
#2007 [20:35] <RolanDecoy> ;-)
#2008 [20:36] <RolanDecoy> I'm optimistic
#2009 [20:36] <rev-lemon> im not atm
#2010 [20:36] <dia> he's giving me more help than I've found on any website all week :)
#2011 [20:36] <RolanDecoy> lol
#2012 [20:36] <dia> hopefully it works
#2013 [20:36] <rev-lemon> dia, when did this acually start to ahppen to your computer
#2014 [20:36] <rev-lemon> ?
#2015 [20:36] <rev-lemon> i mean from last week and before
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#2018 [20:37] <dia> yes, it crashed, and it says that if you're havig trouble, to download this activex file, and it won't go
#2019 [20:37] <rev-lemon> hm
#2020 [20:37] <rev-lemon> active x is troubleing ok
#2021 [20:37] <RolanDecoy> true
#2022 [20:37] <dia> so it seems like i can't download anything at all anymore
#2023 [20:38] <dia> this just started happening when i tried to download minecraft on sunday
#2024 [20:38] <bletch> just bought minecraft when trying to play says to update my video card driver i do not know what type of video card i have or how to do this. please help
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#2026 [20:38] <rev-lemon> dia, have you gotten anything else to download properly off the internet since ?
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#2028 [20:39] <dia> no, but i have had this computer for several years now and ive never had trouble downloading anything before
#2029 [20:39] <RolanDecoy> bletch, what operating system are you running?
#2030 [20:39] <bletch> windows xp
#2031 [20:40] <redneck> ok i get on minecraft and i select single player and a x comes on the screne in the top left of were the game should be what do i do
#2032 [20:40] <RolanDecoy> go to your start menu and click run...
#2033 [20:40] <redneck> run whay
#2034 [20:40] <RolanDecoy> type in dxdiag and press enter
#2035 [20:40] <rev-lemon> dia could you please try the instructions on this page http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080610110136AA6MPN8
#2036 [20:40] <dia> just a second
#2037 [20:40] <dia> let me try
#2038 [20:40] <RolanDecoy> your video adapter model and manufacturer should be in the Display tab where it says Name:
#2039 [20:41] <dia> why do i need to uninstall activex?
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#2041 [20:41] <rev-lemon> dia becuase its starting to sound like that is the cause of all this trouble
#2042 [20:41] <Scaream> Umm,
#2043 [20:41] <Scaream> I need some help
#2044 [20:42] <RolanDecoy> Scaream, ask
#2045 [20:43] <dia> what uses activex that might not work after i uninstall it? would sims 3 and such still work?
#2046 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> <Scaream> Then I deleted my META-INF
#2047 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> <Scaream> And when I try to play it loads then the screen goes black.
#2048 [20:43] <bletch> says mobile intel express
#2049 [20:43] <rev-lemon> dia im going to try and see if you can install it once more after / you uninstall it, i just think its presently corrupted
#2050 [20:45] <RolanDecoy> bletch, http://askintelsupport.com/Intel/ukp.aspx?pid=2&ruleid=905
#2051 [20:45] <bletch> ty
#2052 [20:45] <dia> so i'm a bit confused, the intel site you sent me to says that it's trying to download activex, but it can't, and you're telling me to uninstall it
#2053 [20:46] <rev-lemon> dia,
#2054 [20:46] <rev-lemon> dia, im trying to get your broswer to see activex as it should be working, i think active x is somehow corrupted by your machine somehow, also i was trying to get you to update your video drivers
#2055 [20:46] <rev-lemon> but that isnt possible since activex is the rout of this trouble so far
#2056 [20:47] <dia> the intel thing seems like a very good idea, and i think it would work, the only problem is that it wont download
#2057 [20:47] <rev-lemon> dia, thats exactly the trouble,
#2058 [20:48] <dia> so what do you recommend at this point?
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#2060 [20:50] <rev-lemon> at this momelnt i recommend installing vista all over again, thats my point of view unless someone has a much better option
#2061 [20:50] <rev-lemon> :(
#2062 [20:50] <rev-lemon> im now lost
#2063 [20:50] <dia> what about activex?
#2064 [20:51] <rev-lemon> dia, activex should recify it self after a fresh install but , thats why im at a loss , i cant garentie from me that its still going to work proeprly
#2065 [20:51] <rev-lemon> dia
#2066 [20:52] <rev-lemon> this is what i belive, see if someone else can come up with different option
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#2068 [20:52] <xarcus> can any of you guys help me with a minecraft problem
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#2070 [20:53] <xarcus> ?
#2071 [20:53] <dia> thank you so much for trying to help, rev-lemon, but I have to go, thank you for being willing to try to help me!
#2072 [20:53] <rev-lemon> dia np, im soo sorry it had to come down to this ,
#2073 [20:53] <xarcus> rev could i get some help
#2074 [20:54] <rev-lemon> xarcus whats the trouble
#2075 [20:54] <dia> it's fine, at least you could try to help, you're the only one that's even been willing to try to help all week
#2076 [20:54] <dia> so thank you rev-lemon
#2077 [20:54] <rev-lemon> np
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#2079 [20:54] <xarcus> rev-lemon
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#2081 [20:55] <rev-lemon> ?
#2082 [20:55] <xarcus> might i get some help
#2083 [20:56] <rev-lemon> xarcus i dont know how to help since i dont know your trouble ?????
#2084 [20:56] <xarcus> i just deleted my minecraft files to get a clean slate but now when i try to login it says toomany faild logins any idea?
#2085 [20:56] <RolanDecoy> account blocked?
#2086 [20:56] <xarcus> no idea i loged in to the minecraft site
#2087 [20:56] <rev-lemon> xarcus try going to acual site minecraft.net login and click in broswer
#2088 [20:57] <rev-lemon> RolanDecoy its been happing all week with verious people
#2089 [20:57] <RolanDecoy> sounds like trouble with their account server, lol
#2090 [20:57] <xarcus> NOW its downloadin
#2091 [20:57] <RolanDecoy> sry, not something to laugh about
#2092 [20:57] <xarcus> up and there it is
#2093 [20:58] <xarcus> so why is the client not working?
#2094 [20:58] <RolanDecoy> what is it not doing?
#2095 [20:58] <RolanDecoy> or is it doing that worries you?
#2096 [20:58] <rev-lemon> RolanDecoy its ok, thing is, i think its mojang not able to handle the imput of people all at once, from soo many useres its just a matter of waiting for it, to come back under control
#2097 [20:58] <xarcus> its saying too many failed logins but it works on the web site
#2098 [20:58] <RolanDecoy> yah
#2099 [20:58] <rev-lemon> xarcus did you get all the files ?
#2100 [20:58] <xarcus> yes i did
#2101 [20:59] <rev-lemon> xarcus does it play online though the broswer ?
#2102 [20:59] <RolanDecoy> well then you should be able to play offline at least
#2103 [20:59] <rev-lemon> ^
#2104 [20:59] <xarcus> thank you both rev-lemon,and rolandecoy
#2105 [20:59] <xarcus> also i downgrade to 1.7.3 for the yogscast industrial pack so .. mabey
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#2107 [20:59] <RolanDecoy> np, but that still doesn't solve your login problem
#2108 [20:59] <lemon-rev> xarcus yes it could hav e been the mod
#2109 [20:59] <lemon-rev> lol
#2110 [21:00] <xarcus> well
#2111 [21:00] <xarcus> i dont think notch would ban me for a mod or too
#2112 [21:00] <xarcus> two*
#2113 [21:00] <RolanDecoy> i think mods are loaded in-game, not at login...
#2114 [21:00] <lemon-rev> xarcus no he doesnt ban people for mods but for buying games from other sites yes :P
#2115 [21:00] <RolanDecoy> but then again i steer way clear of em...
#2116 [21:00] <xarcus> i got mine off of the site
#2117 [21:01] <lemon-rev> xarcus then you have no trouble then :(
#2118 [21:01] <RolanDecoy> maybe they changed something with the login system after v1.7.3
#2119 [21:01] <xarcus> also have you noted some time it say not a legal copy somtimes
#2120 [21:01] <xarcus> well the thing is i could login fine with 1.7.3
#2121 [21:02] <xarcus> but now im back with 1.8.1 its all derpy
#2122 [21:02] <RolanDecoy> lol, dont worry about that, i think that message plays randomly even with logged in ppl
#2123 [21:02] <RolanDecoy> i've seen it come by every now and then
#2124 [21:02] <lemon-rev> xarcus look dude, if you have a good copy of 1.7.3 then use it again but we only here to try and get mc back and running again ok
#2125 [21:03] <xarcus> well thank you for you time :D
#2126 [21:03] <xarcus> have a good night
#2127 [21:03] <RolanDecoy> might wanna try deleting all files from the .minecraft folder in your application data folder
#2128 [21:03] <RolanDecoy> and redownloading
#2129 [21:03] <RolanDecoy> same
#2130 [21:04] <xarcus> did thats why im here it wouldnt let me login after -_- oh well it works so THANKS A BIT LOT :D :D
#2131 [21:04] <RolanDecoy> lol
#2132 [21:04] <RolanDecoy> oky
#2133 [21:05] <lemon-rev> as i said before its just a matter of waiting lol
#2134 [21:05] <RolanDecoy> hope they solve that login problem soon, maybe get some more bandwidth
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#2136 [21:05] <RolanDecoy> or move the login server off-site alltogether
#2137 [21:05] <lemon-rev> ha, be a cold day in hell before then, if they dont get them selfs out of the crap with getting bugs out of mc lol
#2138 [21:06] <RolanDecoy> ya well thats the risk using JAVA as base language, lol
#2139 [21:06] <lemon-rev> yup
#2140 [21:06] <RolanDecoy> it was meant for mass data handling in a generalized language, not gaming
#2141 [21:07] <RolanDecoy> they only started with the 3d rendering bout 6 years ago, so
#2142 [21:07] <RolanDecoy> its still in its infancy
#2143 [21:07] <lemon-rev> RolanDecoy tell notch that and jeb :P
#2144 [21:07] <RolanDecoy> excuse the english, I'm still Dutch
#2145 [21:07] <RolanDecoy> well actually I can understand their choice, the timing is just terrible
#2146 [21:08] <RolanDecoy> 10 years from now it will probably be able to compete with VB .NET or DarkBasic
#2147 [21:09] <RolanDecoy> besides, it's still a game unlike any other, so it's worth the pain...I think...
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#2150 [21:18] <enzinho> o jogo parou de rodar de repente.
#2151 [21:20] <enzinho> my game is broken
#2152 [21:21] <RolanDecoy> wha
#2153 [21:21] <RolanDecoy> ow...and gone
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#2159 [21:29] <Danger> quick question, are they any widespread account related issues going on at the moment?
#2160 [21:29] <RolanDecoy> from what I understand yes
#2161 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Wait, what?
#2162 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Elaborate please.
#2163 [21:30] <RolanDecoy> from what I understand login servers have had problems coping with the amount of log ins
#2164 [21:30] <RolanDecoy> [scrolling back up]
#2165 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Yes, but what is Danger's problem?
#2166 [21:31] <Danger> i'm getting "Too many failed logins."
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#2168 [21:31] <Danger> i've only tried logging in twice or three times just a few moments ago
#2169 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Ah, then yes. It's a login server problem
#2170 [21:31] <RolanDecoy> rev-lemon RolanDecoy its ok, thing is, i think its mojang not able to handle the imput of people all at once, from soo many useres its just a matter of waiting for it, to come back under control
#2171 [21:32] <Danger> i attempted to reset my password and did the forgot username link, no emails from either of them
#2172 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> You may want to try just a password change, there are a few that have reported that helping
#2173 [21:32] <Danger> so after the reset and forgot username link don't appear to be working i sent an email to support attaching my paypal receipt, so i guess i'll just be waiting :(
#2174 [21:33] <RolanDecoy> sounds like thats all you can really do...
#2175 [21:34] <RolanDecoy> you should still be able to play off-line if you logged in before though...
#2176 [21:34] <RolanDecoy> until this blows over...
#2177 [21:35] <Danger> i don't play offline though, couple servers i play on usually
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#2180 [21:35] <WoW> hello?
#2181 [21:35] <RolanDecoy> ...hm...ya, then you can only wait and keep an eye on that e-mail box
#2182 [21:35] <RolanDecoy> hello
#2183 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> Danger - Does the in-browser client not work?
#2184 [21:36] <WoW> i was wobndering how to make mods? ad make a Minecraft server
#2185 [21:36] <RolanDecoy> lol, its on the forums
#2186 [21:36] <RolanDecoy> complete tutorials and all
#2187 [21:36] <Danger> can't login to the webpage either
#2188 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#2189 [21:36] <RolanDecoy> he reset his password, remember?
#2190 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Didn't get the password recovery email
#2191 [21:36] <Danger> nope
#2192 [21:37] <RolanDecoy> that doesn't mean the password wasn't reset
#2193 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> So his old password should've still worked, if it was correct
#2194 [21:37] <WoW> well il go then c ya
#2195 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> RolanDecoy - Yes, it does mean that
#2196 [21:37] <RolanDecoy> good luck
#2197 [21:37] <WoW> WOWOWOWOWWOWOWOWWOWOWOWOWOWOWWOWOWOWWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWWOWOWOWOWOOWOOW11290162463642156034567675063716027462304751273541403528124723
#2198 [21:37] <WoW> BYE
#2199 [21:37] <Danger> couldn't reset still work if the email was changed though?
#2200 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Would sorta suck if people can just randomly reset other people's passwords at will, eh?
#2201 [21:38] <RolanDecoy> thats why you get a receipt ;-)
#2202 [21:38] <RolanDecoy> or is it one of those 'are you sure you want to reset' mails?
#2203 [21:38] <RolanDecoy> cuz then i'll just focus on my cigarette
#2204 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> No, it's a, "here's a temporary password that was requested" email
#2205 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Your old password still works, until you log in with the temp password to change it
#2206 [21:39] <Danger> ok, so either i was fat fingering on the webpage or something changed, i can log into the web page now, but still not the client
#2207 [21:39] <RolanDecoy> ah, k, temp 2 passwords
#2208 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, nothing you can do then, just wait for the client's auth server to straighten itself out
#2209 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> The in-browser one should still work
#2210 [21:40] <RolanDecoy> in what order did you try that?
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#2212 [21:43] <RolanDecoy> I don't get that login problem. I've been logging in and out all week and never had that problem
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#2214 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Only affects a certain portion of the playerbase
#2215 [21:44] <RolanDecoy> geographicly based or random?
#2216 [21:44] <RolanDecoy> or no idea, lol?
#2217 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> We've had no correlation anywhere.
#2218 [21:44] <Danger> so not Alpha accounts?
#2219 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> I've got an alpha account myself, no problems.
#2220 [21:45] <Danger> or rather, not only alpha accounts?
#2221 [21:45] <TheNoodle> I haven't noticed a difference between my alpha/creative/beta accounts.
#2222 [21:45] <Danger> guess i wait then
#2223 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Problem seems widespread, no geographic correlation. From sweden to poland to the UK and US... we've seen people all over
#2224 [21:46] <RolanDecoy> hmm...
#2225 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Seems to only affect the downloaded client, and not the in-browser client.
#2226 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Both use different authentication.
#2227 [21:46] <RolanDecoy> only play the downloaded
#2228 [21:47] <Danger> maybe i'll try a fresh install then, that fixed the login issue/error i was having a few weeks back, different error then though
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#2230 [21:48] <RolanDecoy> I need to get some shut-eye, 4am here...cya round
#2231 [21:48] <tycheleto> Hi, does anyone know how I can contact Mojang regarding account issues?
#2232 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net/support
#2233 [21:48] <meem1029> Does anyone have any ideas as to why minecraft won't work on Fedora 15? I just installed the Oracle Java.
#2234 [21:49] <tycheleto> Yeah I read that page, but doesn't have an email or anything which I can contact
#2235 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> meem1029 - Does it give you any errors?
#2236 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> tycheleto - They phased out direct email support in favor of a ticketing system. They got overwhelmed with just emails before
#2237 [21:49] <meem1029> It just flat out won't run most of the time. When I try the alternative command given it says that the class is not found.
#2238 [21:49] <tycheleto> and how do I access said ticketing system?
#2239 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> The website at minecraft.net/support is the ticketing system
#2240 [21:50] <RolanDecoy> http://www.minecraft.net/support
#2241 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> meem1029 - Could you pastebin the error?
#2242 [21:51] <meem1029> http://pastebin.com/6SeyTCMY
#2243 [21:51] <tycheleto> Oh ok... Basically, I purchased Minecraft a few months ago, and then stopped playing due to lack of time. Now I can't seem to login again, as it does not recognise the username or password. what can I do?
#2244 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> tycheleto - What error do you get?
#2245 [21:51] <TheNoodle> :senduser
#2246 [21:51] <WugBot> senduser: You can retrieve all minecraft accounts registered using your email address using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#2247 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Um.
#2248 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> meem1029 - Are you launching minecraft.jar or Minecraft.jar?
#2249 [21:52] <tycheleto> Tried reuqesting the email, no email came
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#2251 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> tycheleto - What error do you get upon trying to log in?
#2252 [21:52] <tycheleto> I get Oops, unknown username or password.
#2253 [21:53] <meem1029> I don't have a Minecraft.jar. The download was minecraft.jar. Either way I try it I get the same error.
#2254 [21:53] <tycheleto> Or just "Login Failed" on the downloaded version
#2255 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Hmm..
#2256 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Login failed means your username/password is being entered wrong.. or you're using an old launcher
#2257 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Try redownloading the launcher at minecraft.net/download
#2258 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> meem1029 - But look at your execution line.
#2259 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> "$java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#2260 [21:54] <tycheleto> I downloaded it about an hour ago. Does anyone know why request for all minecraft accounts registered to email failed?
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#2263 [21:54] <meem1029> I realized that after you said it. I then tried it with minecraft.jar and got exactly the same error.
#2264 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> meem1029 - Give me an ls output of where you're executing it.
#2265 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> tycheleto - Did you try all the emails you usually use?
#2266 [21:55] * meem1029 facepalms.
#2266 [21:56] <meem1029> When I tried the last one I had cd .. 'ed.
#2267 [21:56] * GreyVulpine nods
#2267 [21:56] <meem1029> Thanks for the help!
#2268 [21:56] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2268 [21:57] <SinZ> Grey, whats the difference between Xmx and Xms with java parameters?
#2269 [21:57] <tycheleto> The email was correct, since i found my confirmation email of purchase in that account..
#2270 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> Xms is starting heap size, Xmx is ending
#2271 [21:57] <SinZ> ah
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#2273 [21:57] <tycheleto> Ah, tried resetting password based on account name and it worked. Thanks anyway!
#2274 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> tycheleto - Glad you got it straightened out
#2275 [21:58] <|Kiikun|> ??< win/dxdiag
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#2277 [22:04] <shmoo> can someone help me?
#2278 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2279 [22:04] <shmoo> anyone here? :o
#2280 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> No
#2281 [22:04] <shmoo> minecraft game, it just crashes
#2282 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> We're all (un)dead.
#2283 [22:05] <shmoo> right.
#2284 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any error reports?
#2285 [22:05] <shmoo> dunno, when i try to play the game in browser, it says it's downloading, then it shows the words mojang and then crashes
#2286 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Okay, do you see any text that you can copy when it crashes?
#2287 [22:06] <shmoo> no
#2288 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Is this Classic or beta?
#2289 [22:06] <shmoo> betea
#2290 [22:06] <shmoo> beta*
#2291 [22:06] <shmoo> bought the game
#2292 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried the downloadable launcher?
#2293 [22:06] <shmoo> yup
#2294 [22:06] <shmoo> same
#2295 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Does that crash as well?
#2296 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Do you get any files named hs_err_pid where the launcher is?
#2297 [22:07] <shmoo> not that i know of
#2298 [22:07] <shmoo> my friend suggested updating java
#2299 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Could you look?
#2300 [22:07] <shmoo> but when i try, it says error
#2301 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> Whenever minecraft crashes forceably, it usually creates that file
#2302 [22:08] <shmoo> im using a windows computer, so do i just search the computer?
#2303 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Where do you have the minecraft.exe at?
#2304 [22:08] <shmoo> i have no idea....>.>
#2305 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> How do you run it/
#2306 [22:08] <shmoo> i click in browser on the main site
#2307 [22:09] <shmoo> then the problem...
#2308 [22:09] <shmoo> then like after 30 secs, something pops out
#2309 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> You said you ran the downloaded client as well
#2310 [22:09] <shmoo> yes
#2311 [22:09] <shmoo> same problem
#2312 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Where did you download the client to?
#2313 [22:09] <shmoo> do you mean like google chrome?
#2314 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> I mean, on your computer, when you clicked on Minecraft.exe at minecraft.net/download, where did you download that file to?
#2315 [22:10] <shmoo> windows
#2316 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, go to your Documents folder, and check inside the Download folder
#2317 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> Is minecraft.exe there?
#2318 [22:11] <shmoo> no
#2319 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Could you redownload minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download -- Save it to your desktop
#2320 [22:12] <shmoo> okay, so when you download it, a new screen pops out right?
#2321 [22:12] <shmoo> the screen just freezes
#2322 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> When you run it, and it crashes, it should create a file named hs_err_pid
#2323 [22:12] <shmoo> (i didnt download it yet)
#2324 [22:13] <shmoo> once i click download a new screen pops out....then it freezes, then after bout 30 secs, a new screen pops out, it says
#2325 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> Alright.
#2326 [22:13] <shmoo> java (tm) platform se binary is not responding
#2327 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> I see. Could you uninstall java completely from your system using window's control panel, and reinstall it fresh from java.com?
#2328 [22:14] <shmoo> i can, but im afraid that when i download it, it crashes, like when i try to update it, it says error
#2329 [22:14] <shmoo> so should i continue on?
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#2331 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. What version of windows are you on?
#2332 [22:15] <shmoo> windows vista '_'
#2333 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, right click on "Computer" and go to properties, what does it say next to "System Type:"?
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#2335 [22:17] <shmoo> 32 bit operating system
#2336 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Could you head here: http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#2337 [22:17] <shmoo> done
#2338 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> and try downloading "Windows 7, XP Offline (32-bit)"
#2339 [22:17] <shmoo> now what?
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#2341 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> If you can download it, then try uninstalling java from your system before proceeding with that install.
#2342 [22:18] <shmoo> shoot....i gotta go....
#2343 [22:18] <shmoo> well, thx
#2344 [22:18] <shmoo> ill look on it
#2345 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Good luck
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#2347 [22:21] <mr_pants> Does downloading minecraft on another computer in your household so a non payer can play with you count as distributing?
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#2350 [22:28] <mib_9erh4g> hey i bot the game but it it wont send confermation code
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#2353 [22:29] <mib_9erh4g> hello?
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#2360 [22:39] <bbq_smitty> hello
#2361 [22:40] * Thrae nods to bbq_smitty
#2361 [22:40] <bbq_smitty> i'm having an issue installing the latest pre-release
#2362 [22:40] <TheNoodle> #minecrafthelp doesn't support pre releases.
#2363 [22:41] <bbq_smitty> aw, ok
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#2365 [22:43] <dbshortwave_> ive got a question...
#2366 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> We have answers
#2367 [22:44] <dbshortwave_> i would hope .. what kinda video card resoulutions is this game function best on ?
#2368 [22:44] <dbshortwave_> cause ive been getting a crap load of java errors and its video related?
#2369 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Could you share those via pastebin.com?
#2370 [22:45] <Thrae> dbshortwave_: Minecraft doesn't really care about resolutions. We'll need to error reports on a place like www.pastebin.com.
#2371 [22:45] <dbshortwave_> ok
#2372 [22:46] <dbshortwave_> also been getting a shut down hang
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#2374 [22:46] <dbshortwave_> ive figured this to also be video related... currently going to invest into a wildcat4 7110 card for this boat ancor dell
#2375 [22:47] <dbshortwave_> i just dont think this machine is being used to its full potential
#2376 [22:48] <Thrae> dbshortwave_: If you want we can take a look at your hardware with a DxDiag report.
#2377 [22:49] <dbshortwave_> ok i run that from run command in start correct?
#2378 [22:49] <Thrae> ?? win/dxdiag
#2379 [22:49] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2380 [22:49] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2381 [22:49] <Thrae> dbshortwave_: Follow VoxelHead's instructions ^^^^^
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#2384 [22:55] <dbshortwave_> ok its there
#2385 [22:55] <dbshortwave_> <--- this name
#2386 [22:55] <dbshortwave_> without the _
#2387 [22:55] <Thrae> dbshortwave_: We need the link.
#2388 [22:55] <GreyVulpine> Would be faster if you gave us the URL
#2389 [22:55] <dbshortwave_> http://pastebin.com/q8ECgqyA
#2390 [22:57] <Thrae> dbshortwave_: Your video card driver is out of date, and they stopped making updates in 2009, but hopefully the update will solve your problem -- http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/fire/Legacy/Pages/fire_xp.aspx?type=2.4.3&product=2.4.3.3.2.3.14&lang=English
#2391 [22:58] <dbshortwave_> hell of a machine though ya think ?
#2392 [22:58] <GreyVulpine> Pretty old, but we've seen worse
#2393 [22:58] <dbshortwave_> lol you should see my devil linux machine
#2394 [22:58] * GreyVulpine points to http://pastebin.com/azAYc5Uh
#2394 [22:59] <dbshortwave_> its just supported on foam board with plastic standoffs
#2395 [22:59] <Thrae> dbshortwave_: Nice processor but that's about it. The memory is pretty low at only 1GB. If it uses PCI-Express you could put a decent video card in there and upgrade the memory to make it a real beast.
#2396 [22:59] <dbshortwave_> thats the sad part
#2397 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Most likely doesn't
#2398 [22:59] <dbshortwave_> its got the grandfather of the PCI in it and its close cousin
#2399 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> AGP?
#2400 [23:00] <dbshortwave_> agp pro
#2401 [23:00] <Thrae> dbshortwave_ means PCI-X
#2402 [23:00] <Thrae> Oh, AGP Pro?
#2403 [23:00] <dbshortwave_> and a pci-x
#2404 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#2405 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Intel(R) E7000 Series Processor to AGP Controller - 2552
#2406 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> AGP
#2407 [23:00] <dbshortwave_> thats why i was thinking of getting the wildcat4 7110
#2408 [23:00] <dbshortwave_> utilised this board to its full extent
#2409 [23:00] <Thrae> You can still get decent video cards for AGP, but they're a higher margin usually unless they're used.
#2410 [23:01] <Thrae> Well even with a Wildcat4 you're not going to get it to be great for gaming because that's a workstation card.
#2411 [23:02] <dbshortwave_> o k
#2412 [23:03] <dbshortwave_> i knew at one point that dell made a few machines that was a little picky with its AGP cards and what ones you can put in it
#2413 [23:03] <Thrae> There's not a lot of information on Google on how a workstation card works with gaming -- it uses drivers limited by firmware optimized for workstation tasks
#2414 [23:04] <Thrae> Are you installing the suite, dbshortwave_ ?
#2415 [23:04] <dbshortwave_> hmm told me set up couldnt find the right hardware or setup file for your current setup
#2416 [23:05] <Thrae> dbshortwave_: Ah sorry I used the wrong chipset link. Seems they stopped making drivers for the FireGL 8800 in 2005 -- http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/firegllegacy-xp.aspx
#2417 [23:06] <Thrae> dbshortwave_: But your current display driver is from 2004, so hopefully there's an update (maybe you currently have one of those "Performance Drivers" installed from 2004)
#2418 [23:07] * dbshortwave_ nods
#2418 [23:07] <Chris> ??< index
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#2420 [23:08] <BB> Anyone can help me?
#2421 [23:09] <dbshortwave_> and the fans kick up
#2422 [23:09] <BB> !msg hello?
#2423 [23:09] <dbshortwave_> hello
#2424 [23:09] <BB> Can anyone help me?
#2425 [23:10] <Chris> Depends... I usually shouldn't help in here cause I tend to break stuff xD
#2426 [23:10] <dbshortwave_> im sure someone can whats the issue
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#2428 [23:10] <Chris> just ask, someone should respond
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#2430 [23:11] <BB> Lol...ah i'm trying to connect to a muiltplayer server and it when it's loading it keeps saying logging in... and says that and then the minecraft stops responding and it happenes on every server and on another computer.
#2431 [23:12] <Chris> hmm... how much RAM do you have?
#2432 [23:12] <BB> Oh...i've run the game alot before.
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#2435 [23:15] <BB> Can anyone help me?
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#2438 [23:16] <dbshortwave_> same error
#2439 [23:18] <dbshortwave_> hold a sec
#2440 [23:19] <dbshortwave_> yeah nogo on the update
#2441 [23:19] <dbshortwave_> ill just gget a new card
#2442 [23:20] <Chris> yeah BB, sorry I have no idea... I don't minecraft support much, just idle xD
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#2445 [23:21] <BB> Okay...
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#2447 [23:22] <BB> Do you know where i can go?
#2448 [23:22] <BB> to get help?
#2449 [23:22] <thekid92389> i need help installing minecraft on a mac not put the .rar file in the bin
#2450 [23:23] <BB> did you download the mac version?
#2451 [23:23] <thekid92389> yes
#2452 [23:24] <BB> Then open it and play...
#2453 [23:24] <BB> well i don't know because i don't have no mac...
#2454 [23:24] <thekid92389> lol so why did you answer
#2455 [23:24] <BB> ..............
#2456 [23:25] <thekid92389> thank you
#2457 [23:26] <thekid92389> i need help is there anyone who can help me
#2458 [23:27] <BB> I need help too.
#2459 [23:28] <thekid92389> i know so much for getting help in the help channel
#2460 [23:28] <BB> Where is the best place to get support?
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#2462 [23:29] <thekid92389> idk ive been looking
#2463 [23:30] <Chris> here's good, everyone seems to be asleep
#2464 [23:30] <thekid92389> chris can you help me?
#2465 [23:30] <Chris> ??< index
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#2467 [23:30] <Chris> 1 moment...
#2468 [23:30] <thekid92389> ok
#2469 [23:31] <Chris> ??< 1.8/download
#2470 [23:31] <Chris> bot comands :D
#2471 [23:31] <gieves> Dammit I want to Play Minecraft so bad but I cant D;
#2472 [23:31] <Chris> thekid, how have you been starting the server?
#2473 [23:32] <Chris> sorry
#2474 [23:32] <Chris> game, not server
#2475 [23:32] <Chris> I usually tech support for something else xD
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#2477 [23:32] <thekid92389> just open it
#2478 [23:32] <acc_Name1> Can anyone help me?
#2479 [23:32] <Chris> what do you get?
#2480 [23:32] <acc_Name1> Please?
#2481 [23:32] <Chris> acc_ whats the problem
#2482 [23:33] <acc_Name1> I try to join a server but when i try to join my application stops responding
#2483 [23:33] <dbshortwave_> ok
#2484 [23:33] <acc_Name1> Same on the In Browser version as well
#2485 [23:33] <thekid92389> login failed and under the try again button it says not downloaded
#2486 [23:33] <dbshortwave_> one last question
#2487 [23:33] <thekid92389> the minecraft folder is empty
#2488 [23:34] <Chris> hmm... is your username and password spelt correctly?
#2489 [23:34] <dbshortwave_> its an opinion baised kinda thing
#2490 [23:34] <thekid92389> yes
#2491 [23:34] <acc_Name1> Chris, are u talking to me or somepone else
#2492 [23:34] <Chris> okay, try logging into minecraft.net thekid
#2493 [23:34] <gieves> thekid92389 Thats what happens to me :o
#2494 [23:34] <gieves> Iv tried deleting the .minecraft and it wont connect to Minecraft.ne
#2495 [23:34] <Chris> acc_ can you get into single player?
#2496 [23:34] <acc_Name1> Yes I can
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#2498 [23:35] <Chris> Thrae, are you round?
#2499 [23:35] <acc_Name1> Just when I try to join any server my web browser or application stop responding. Happens when I wanna join ANY server
#2500 [23:35] <TheError66> Can i ask a question?
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#2502 [23:35] <thekid92389> ok
#2503 [23:36] <Chris> yeah I guess... no guarantees it'll get solved at this point in time
#2504 [23:36] <acc_Name1> GreyVulpine you there?
#2505 [23:36] <Chris> anyone who knows what they are doing?
#2506 [23:36] <acc_Name1> Or Chris, someone to help please
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#2509 [23:36] <TheError66> i cannot put any of my minecraft skins on, and i was wonderin wy it won't work?
#2510 [23:36] <thekid92389> lol i put in the wrong password
#2511 [23:36] <thekid92389> thanks chris
#2512 [23:36] <Chris> TheError, did you log out and back in a couple times?
#2513 [23:36] <Chris> haah
#2514 [23:36] <Jackson413> is there anything herpderping in the minecraft world?
#2515 [23:37] <Jackson413> !isdown
#2516 [23:37] <GreyBot> Jackson413: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2517 [23:37] <Chris> nope
#2518 [23:37] <Chris> I don't believe
#2519 [23:37] <TheError66> no. i usually keep my account logged on
#2520 [23:37] <Chris> what kind of herpderping
#2521 [23:37] <acc_Name1> Chris can you help me please
#2522 [23:37] <Jackson413> can anyone try to log on my server
#2523 [23:37] <Jackson413> i dunno if its me or not
#2524 [23:37] <Chris> jackson, !check <ip>
#2525 [23:38] <Jackson413> !check pvp.manlyminecraft.net
#2526 [23:38] <Chris> The Manliest Server. Ever?
#2527 [23:38] <Jackson413> yeah
#2528 [23:38] <Jackson413> its a pvp server
#2529 [23:38] <Chris> ban me now xD
#2530 [23:38] <Chris> ooh
#2531 [23:38] <Jackson413> but something is severely herpderping
#2532 [23:38] <acc_Name1> Chris Any help please?
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#2534 [23:38] <Chris> acc_ I don't know, you'll have to wait for someone who knows what they're doing to come on
#2535 [23:38] <Chris> jackson, what kind of severely herpderping
#2536 [23:39] <acc_Name1> UUUGGGHHHH
#2537 [23:39] <Chris> everyone, spam Thrae xD
#2538 [23:39] <acc_Name1> Thrae
#2539 [23:39] <acc_Name1> Thrae
#2540 [23:39] <acc_Name1> THrae
#2541 [23:39] <Chris> okay thats enough xD
#2542 [23:39] <TheNoodle> Hey Thrae, you around?
#2543 [23:39] <Jackson413> like logging in, and then people then are disco'd cause it takes too long
#2544 [23:39] <Chris> o/
#2545 [23:39] <Chris> Jackson, how much ram have you allocated
#2546 [23:39] <TheNoodle> I sorta need to talk to you....Thrae :3
#2547 [23:39] <acc_Name1> Jackson413 are u having problems going into the server?
#2548 [23:40] <Chris> thrae was on about 30 minutes ago
#2549 [23:40] <Chris> acc_ only his
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#2551 [23:40] <Jackson413> acc_Name1, yeah
#2552 [23:40] <acc_Name1> !check 85.25.109.226
#2553 [23:40] <TheError66> minecraft skins are annoying me
#2554 [23:40] * Jackson413 switches to default server wrapper
#2554 [23:40] <acc_Name1> Jeez, it says everything is fine but my game stops responding when I try to join
#2555 [23:41] <acc_Name1> !check lolwut.com
#2556 [23:41] <acc_Name1> NO
#2557 [23:41] <Jackson413> acc_Name1, serious?
#2558 [23:41] <acc_Name1> My server is down I guess,,,,,
#2559 [23:41] <Jackson413> did you try mine?
#2560 [23:41] <Chris> I used to play on a server called lolwut...
#2561 [23:41] <Chris> about a year ago
#2562 [23:41] <acc_Name1> My server is called lolwut.com
#2563 [23:41] <Jackson413> my server is taking a shit
#2564 [23:42] <Chris> probably not your server xD
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#2566 [23:42] <Chris> that was to acc, not jackson xD
#2567 [23:42] <acc_Name1> It is my server
#2568 [23:42] <mib_anigwv> anyone else have problems with loggin ?
#2569 [23:42] <acc_Name1> Me!
#2570 [23:42] <acc_Name1> :D
#2571 [23:42] <Chris> no, I meant the one I played on probs wasn't yours
#2572 [23:42] <TheError66> i'm havin problems with skins
#2573 [23:42] <Chris> I don't
#2574 [23:43] <Chris> TheError66, gotta relog a couple times first
#2575 [23:43] <acc_Name1> WHen I try to log into a server, the game just freezes
#2576 [23:43] <mib_anigwv> me too
#2577 [23:43] <TheError66> like how many? i reloged and still doesn't work
#2578 [23:43] <acc_Name1> Yes its probably the Minecraft System mib_anigwv, same problem with me
#2579 [23:43] <acc_Name1> Oh well
#2580 [23:43] <Jackson413> so it aint just me?
#2581 [23:44] <mib_anigwv> ok
#2582 [23:44] <acc_Name1> Nope its everyone
#2583 [23:44] <acc_Name1> Same problem with me
#2584 [23:44] <acc_Name1> The Minecraft System is jacked up right now I guess...
#2585 [23:44] <Chris> TheError, about twice works for me
#2586 [23:44] <TheError66> k. i'll try that
#2587 [23:44] <mib_anigwv> well night then
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#2589 [23:45] <acc_Name1> [L] almostroot DopeGhotu GreyVulpine Kealper Scott mollstam
#2590 [23:45] <acc_Name1> sigh
#2591 [23:45] <acc_Name1> :/
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#2593 [23:45] <[L]> Hi
#2594 [23:45] <acc_Name1> How's it been for you Chris?
#2595 [23:45] <[L]> Don't ring us unless it's a Channel issue please.
#2596 [23:45] <Scott> and your goal in highlighting all of us is?
#2597 [23:45] <acc_Name1> I don't know
#2598 [23:45] <Chris> I've had no problems...
#2599 [23:45] <acc_Name1> I thought most of you were AFK
#2600 [23:45] <acc_Name1> sorry...
#2601 [23:46] <TheError66> wow, i just realized my mistake.
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#2604 [23:46] <acc_Name1> Chris do you do this everyday? Helping people?
#2605 [23:46] <gieves1> Im reaally Sad Face);
#2606 [23:47] <gieves1> I cant play Minecraft D;
#2607 [23:47] <acc_Name1> Why note?
#2608 [23:47] <acc_Name1> not*?
#2609 [23:47] <Chris> Nope :P I try when no one else is here to
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#2611 [23:47] <gieves1> Cant Log In
#2612 [23:47] <Chris> not in this channel at least
#2613 [23:47] <Chris> I bukkit support xD
#2614 [23:47] <gieves1> Never connects to Minecraft.net
#2615 [23:47] <acc_Name1> gieves1 Yea its happening to everyone
#2616 [23:47] <Cruxsky> anyone know whats wrong. whenever i try to connect to a server now the "Logging in.." part freezes minecraft and then it either says "Read timed out.." "End of stream." or "Took too long to log in" this just started a few minutes ago. Its happening on every server so its not the server
#2617 [23:48] <acc_Name1> Its happening to everyone on every single server
#2618 [23:48] <Cruxsky> oh..
#2619 [23:48] <acc_Name1> System is probably down
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#2621 [23:48] <gieves1> Nono its not that
#2622 [23:48] <Chris> minecraft.net is fine
#2623 [23:48] <acc_Name1> Usually comes back up in 2-4 hours
#2624 [23:48] <Chris> the system is up
#2625 [23:48] <gieves1> My Minecraft just wont connect iv tried for a few weeks now
#2626 [23:48] <acc_Name1> minecraft.net is fine, yes, but trying to join the servers is the problem
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#2628 [23:49] <acc_Name1> The system that maintains all the servers is down is what I'm guessing
#2629 [23:49] <gieves1> Mine wont connect
#2630 [23:49] <Chris> acc, there is no central system that maintains the server
#2631 [23:49] <Chris> its a problem with the client
#2632 [23:49] <bugweiser> my minecraft opens fast and good until i try to play multiplayer itll say loggin in and freeze EVERY time
#2633 [23:49] <acc_Name1> Well, I'm guessing.... I'm no Minecraft Pro
#2634 [23:49] <Chris> unless someone in Mojang botched the protocol..
#2635 [23:49] <Chris> lemme test mine...
#2636 [23:49] <acc_Name1> BUGWEISER Its happening to everyone
#2637 [23:50] <gieves1> Someones just messing around with Smp trying to fix it
#2638 [23:50] <bugweiser> oh why is it happening????
#2639 [23:50] <Scott> Chris: there are no issues to my knowledge and I work for a hosting company who hosts hundreds of minecraft servers.
#2640 [23:50] <gieves1> Itll be fine soon
#2641 [23:50] <Scott> we would know ;p
#2642 [23:50] <Cruxsky> its back up i think
#2643 [23:50] <Cruxsky> i logged in fine
#2644 [23:50] <Chris> works fine, try a force update for your clients everyone
#2645 [23:50] <bugweiser> ill try
#2646 [23:50] <acc_Name1> let me check
#2647 [23:50] <gieves1> I cant Log in on the client
#2648 [23:51] <bugweiser> ok its forcing UPdatE
#2649 [23:51] <bugweiser> tcaps
#2650 [23:51] <Chris> Scott, are you available to help people out, I don't know how to debug the client, only servers...
#2651 [23:51] <dbshortwave_> brb
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#2653 [23:51] <acc_Name1> My Minecraft still isn't working
#2654 [23:51] <acc_Name1> Or at least joining servers isnt
#2655 [23:51] <gieves1> I cant even log in it wont work
#2656 [23:51] <bugweiser> i force update but it still froze like it makes the program not respond
#2657 [23:52] <acc_Name1> Yea same here bugweiser
#2658 [23:52] <bugweiser> i have to open it with a batch file
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#2660 [23:52] <acc_Name1> this usually happens a lot
#2661 [23:52] <bugweiser> wow minecraft wtf is going on
#2662 [23:52] <gieves1> Just says it wont conenct for me
#2663 [23:52] <bugweiser> i was playing a little bit ago
#2664 [23:52] <mib_n8gcag> Hi i need help
#2665 [23:52] <gieves1> Correction Notch Wtf did you do this time?
#2666 [23:52] <gieves1> mib we all do xD
#2667 [23:52] <bugweiser> When Does 1.9 Come Out?????
#2668 [23:53] <acc_Name1> gieves1 are you sure your entering your Username and Password Correctly?
#2669 [23:53] <bugweiser> i heard today but obviously not
#2670 [23:53] <gieves1> Yes iv tried changing my pass aswell no luck
#2671 [23:53] <PcJamesy> acc_Name1 i'm having the same issue
#2672 [23:53] <PcJamesy> might be login server
#2673 [23:53] <bugweiser> u guys know when 1.9 comes out?????
#2674 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> 1.9 will be out at minecon
#2675 [23:54] <gieves1> bugweiser Probably just before Minecon
#2676 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Nov 18-19 ish
#2677 [23:54] <mib_n8gcag> my minecraft wont play online? when i click on the server it goes to load and then it just freases up? Idk what to do?
#2678 [23:54] <acc_Name1> PcJamesy it will usually fix itself overnight
#2679 [23:54] <acc_Name1> GREVULPNE!!!
#2680 [23:54] <PcJamesy> acc_Name1 i know
#2681 [23:54] <acc_Name1> tLD
#2682 [23:54] <acc_Name1> :D
#2683 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> I didn't do it!
#2684 [23:54] <gieves1> mib Thats with everyone I cant even play Minecraft the client wont work
#2685 [23:54] <acc_Name1> remember me old buddy?
#2686 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Um?
#2687 [23:54] <acc_Name1> -.-
#2688 [23:54] <PcJamesy> i idle in the channle for when stuff like this happons to see if it's just me
#2689 [23:54] <Scott> Okay so there is an issue
#2690 [23:54] <Scott> lol
#2691 [23:54] * GreyVulpine blames Scott
#2691 [23:54] * Scott prepares for unhappy customers.
#2691 [23:54] <acc_Name1> Exactly, it's happening to everyone
#2692 [23:55] * Gameshreder [Gameshreder@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2693 [23:55] <acc_Name1> This channel will be full pretty soon
#2694 [23:55] <bugweiser> mib its apparently happening to everyone
#2695 [23:55] <gieves1> I beleieve it might Be internet Explorer for me because I cant log into anytho\ing that hasnt already been logged in
#2696 [23:55] <acc_Name1> GreyVulpine I can't believe you don't remember me
#2697 [23:55] <bugweiser> NOTCH FIX IT PLEASE!!!!!
#2698 [23:56] <gieves1> bugweiser No caps please
#2699 [23:56] <acc_Name1> Anyone following Notch on Twitter?
#2700 [23:56] <gieves1> And besides if your a veteran od f Minecraft like me youll know that Notch Screws up ALL the time and he 'eventually' fixes it so yeah :P
#2701 [23:56] <Gameshreder> How do I fix the problem with Saving Chunks problem? When I try to play minecraft.
#2702 [23:57] <Cruxsky> lol grammar
#2703 [23:57] <gieves1> Woops
#2704 [23:57] <acc_Name1> Gameshreder Is it in Single Player?
#2705 [23:57] <gieves1> I Cant play D;
#2706 [23:57] <Gameshreder> yes
#2707 [23:57] <bugweiser> notch is a person?????
#2708 [23:57] <acc_Name1> gameshreder and when you try to join it just says saving chunks?
#2709 [23:57] <Chris> notch is the maker of minecraft...
#2710 [23:57] <bugweiser> is it a he or a company???
#2711 [23:57] <Gameshreder> Yes
#2712 [23:58] <Chris> he
#2713 [23:58] <Chris> Mojang is the company
#2714 [23:58] <bugweiser> 1 person?????
#2715 [23:58] <acc_Name1> gameshreder I'm sorry but I believe the File is corrupted
#2716 [23:58] <Chris> no, notch is just the main guy
#2717 [23:58] <bugweiser> 1 person runs Minecraft??? HOLY SHIZZZZ
#2718 [23:58] <Zimsky> Is anyone else having issues connecting to multiplayer servers?
#2719 [23:58] <acc_Name1> Lol no
#2720 [23:58] <Chris> there's a team of more than just notch
#2721 [23:58] <bugweiser> who names their kid notch??
#2722 [23:58] <Gameshreder> So what do I do?
#2723 [23:58] <acc_Name1> Zimsky its happening to everyone
#2724 [23:58] <Zimsky> bugweiser: Minecraft is run by Mojang AB
#2725 [23:58] <Zimsky> Yeah. I figured such.
#2726 [23:58] <bugweiser> how long does it take for notch to repair it??
#2727 [23:58] <acc_Name1> Gameshreder If no one else can Help you the best thing to do is to just delete the folder
#2728 [23:59] <gieves1> bugweiser Its his Nickname
#2729 [23:59] <gieves1> bugweiser His Real name is Markuss Persson
#2730 [23:59] <bugweiser> Mojang needs a support hotline
#2731 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> We're pretty much it
#2732 [23:59] <[L]> Scott
#2733 [23:59] <[L]> I'm unhappy
#2734 [23:59] <[L]> But not a customer
#2735 [23:59] <gieves1> Or Markuss 'Notch' Persson
#2736 [23:59] <Scott> it seems to be working now
#2737 [23:59] <Zimsky> No, they need half decent servers.
#2738 [23:59] <Gameshreder> because even opening a new world after awhile it does it again but says there is a bug.
#2739 [23:59] <bugweiser> like professional representative who u can TALK to instead of type to