#MinecraftHelp > 2011-10-24
#1 [00:00] <westjgames> grr
#2 [00:00] <westjgames> wait
#3 [00:00] <westjgames> American day?
#4 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#5 [00:00] <westjgames> lol
#6 [00:00] * westjgames is Australian
#6 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Only just recently came back up. It's midnight on the east coast of the US right now
#7 [00:01] <westjgames> ok
#8 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Was down for more than 12 hours, I believe
#9 [00:01] <westjgames> Just letting the admins at Tanelorn and Ausgamers know
#10 [00:02] <westjgames> We all run different servers, yet we seem to help each other out more than we help ourselves
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#12 [00:03] <GreyVulpine> Heh. I haven't played minecraft in months.
#13 [00:03] * |Kiikun| would hope the length of an American Day is the same as an Austrailina day... or a Russian Day..
#13 [00:06] <Wug> ok, cool.
#14 [00:06] <PcJamesy> GreyVulpine you in michigan
#15 [00:07] <Wug> If nobody objects, I'll bring the experimental wugbot in here and turn it on
#16 [00:07] <PcJamesy> what dose he do
#17 [00:07] <Wug> GreyVulpine, if it malfunctions in a spectacular way, kick it
#18 [00:08] <PcJamesy> lol
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#20 [00:08] <Wug> WugBot: mute + #minecrafthelp
#21 [00:08] <WugBot> I will no longer send messages to #minecrafthelp.
#22 [00:08] <Wug> the new wiugbot can automatically send factoids people ask for
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#24 [00:08] <PcJamesy> ah
#25 [00:08] <Wug> ;module autofactoid allow #minecrafthelp
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#27 [00:09] <Wug> it will now collect data and stuff
#28 [00:09] <frogaincia> is minecraft multiplayer working now?
#29 [00:09] <PcJamesy> yep frogaincia
#30 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - Yes
#31 [00:09] <Zimsky> Is mp auth back online?
#32 [00:09] <ALifer> yes
#33 [00:09] <Wug> ;+ auth yes.
#34 [00:09] <ExperimentalWugBot> Done.
#35 [00:09] <frogaincia> alos does anyone know how to get rid of orbs that have already been droped?
#36 [00:10] <Wug> :auth > Zimsky
#37 [00:10] <ExperimentalWugBot> Zimsky: (auth) yes.
#38 [00:10] <Wug> Is mp auth back online?
#39 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - With a map editor like mcedit
#40 [00:10] <Zimsky> Hokay
#41 [00:10] <ugly> who is old here ?
#42 [00:10] <Wug> Zimsky: I'm using you as a guinea pig.
#43 [00:10] <ugly> sometimng easy to ask
#44 [00:10] <frogaincia> will that fix the server, because now it won't even work, it just sys end of stream
#45 [00:10] <Zimsky> Feel free to do so
#46 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> frogaincia - Yes
#47 [00:11] <Zimsky> I suppress alerts
#48 [00:11] <frogaincia> ok thanks
#49 [00:11] <ALifer> Frog I use the die method myself
#50 [00:11] <ALifer> ie empty my inventory die and stay dead a bit .... all exp gone!
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#52 [00:13] <ALifer> wow i just saw how slow I am ... too tired, bye all.
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#54 [00:13] <ugly> Iridium that come here all times, is the old iridium member unix.. old time ago.. or is a new ?
#55 [00:13] <ugly> who can tell me
#56 [00:13] <ugly> ?
#57 [00:13] <ken> does anyone now how to get rid of dropped orbs without mcedit or any mods?
#58 [00:14] <Wug> no idea
#59 [00:14] <Wug> ken: they might disappear on their own after a while
#60 [00:14] <ugly> Wug you told me
#61 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> Not possible
#62 [00:14] <ugly> or him ?
#63 [00:14] <Wug> ugly: no idea
#64 [00:14] <ugly> ok
#65 [00:14] <ken> an idea how long, because the server dosn't even let people join, it justs says end of stream
#66 [00:15] <Wug> ken: why cant you just mcedit them out
#67 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> ken - You need to delete those orbs, but without a map editor, or mods, there's no way of doin git
#68 [00:15] <ken> how does mcedit work, since I want to make sure nothing get deleted
#69 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Load up MCedit, load up the map. Look for a group of red orbs. Those denote floating entities. Select area -> delete entities
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#72 [00:17] <ken> but how can i do that if it won't let me join the game?
#73 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> MCedit is an external map editor
#74 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to have minecraft loaded
#75 [00:18] <|Kiikun|> infact mcedit tells you NOT to have minecraft open :P
#76 [00:19] <ken> ok thanks GreyVulpine and Kiikun
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#78 [00:26] <Wug> where can I update java?
#79 [00:27] <Wug> where can I update java?
#80 [00:27] <ExperimentalWugBot> Wug: (j) Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#81 [00:29] <|Kiikun|> when is 1.9 coming out!?
#82 [00:29] <|Kiikun|> :P
#83 [00:29] * |Kiikun| helps test!
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#84 [00:40] <Hawkhead> hello
#85 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> oןןǝɥ
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#87 [00:40] <Hawkhead> lol
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#89 [00:43] <viking667> sorry about that.
#90 [00:44] <Hawkhead> http://pastebin.com/YzJjiZCh what does it mean
#91 [00:46] <Hawkhead> hello
#92 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> As AuBot said, it's a video driver issue.
#93 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Could we get a dxdiag from you?
#94 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> ??> Hawkhead win/dxdiag
#95 [00:47] <VoxelHead> Hawkhead: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#96 [00:47] <Hawkhead> oh
#97 [00:47] <VoxelHead> Hawkhead: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#99 [00:50] <Hawkhead> http://pastebin.com/JsiF45Bt
#100 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, one moment
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#102 [00:57] <Tyger> Evening all
#103 [00:58] <Hawkhead> good afternoon
#104 [00:58] <Tyger> can anyone help me get my server back online?
#105 [00:58] <Tyger> it's giving anyone, non-local, a: JavaException: Socketclosed error.
#106 [00:58] <Tyger> still...
#107 [00:59] <Tyger> !myip
#108 [00:59] <Hawkhead> i ca
#109 [01:01] <Tyger> !check 67.211.134.62
#110 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Hawkhead - Could you try these drivers: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#111 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> Tyger - Could you pastebin the entire server console?
#112 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> Give us the URL to it
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#115 [01:11] <Chris> ??> warcraft941 fubar/hamachi
#116 [01:11] <VoxelHead> warcraft941: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#117 [01:11] <VoxelHead> warcraft941: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#118 [01:12] <warcraft941> how i do vps
#119 [01:12] <Chris> no idea
#120 [01:13] <warcraft941> hmmm........might as well just shut down the server
#121 [01:13] <Chris> just port forward?
#122 [01:13] <warcraft941> wdf some random person pmed me saying i reapeted my self when i didnt
#123 [01:14] <Chris> that would have been voxelhead, just ignore it
#124 [01:15] <warcraft941> ok
#125 [01:15] <warcraft941> lol it was
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#129 [01:31] <Jyro> Hey everyone I am having problems with my Minecraft. Everytime I insert my info it crashes.
#130 [01:33] <lemon-rev> jyro have you got the latest update ?
#131 [01:33] <lemon-rev> ie and java as well ?
#132 [01:34] <Jyro> I have Java 7 and what do you mean latest update, of MC?
#133 [01:34] <lemon-rev> yea and that too ?
#134 [01:34] <Jyro> 1.8
#135 [01:34] <lemon-rev> ok
#136 [01:34] <lemon-rev> jyro why have you got java 7 i think its still beta correct ?
#137 [01:35] <Jyro> Because i tried 6.29
#138 [01:35] <lemon-rev> and
#139 [01:35] <Jyro> & it did not work
#140 [01:35] <lemon-rev> jyro goto minecraft.net login / click in broswer
#141 [01:36] <Jyro> Just gives me a white creen.
#142 [01:36] <Jyro> screen*
#143 [01:36] <lemon-rev> jyro windows / mac ?
#144 [01:36] <Jyro> XP
#145 [01:36] <lemon-rev> ok
#146 [01:36] <lemon-rev> ??> jyro win/dxdiag
#147 [01:36] <VoxelHead> jyro: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#148 [01:36] <VoxelHead> jyro: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#149 [01:36] <lemon-rev> goto start goto run type dxdiag
#150 [01:36] <lemon-rev> follow the rest
#151 [01:37] <Jyro> Yeah I know how to do it, just give me a sec :P
#152 [01:37] <Jyro> http://pastebin.com/7pP5hVCv
#153 [01:38] <lemon-rev> ty
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#157 [01:39] <warcraft941> YAY I PORT FORWARD MY MINECRAFT SERVVER!!!!!!!!!!!
#158 [01:39] <Jyro> Cool
#159 [01:40] <warcraft941> god damn took me years
#160 [01:40] <warcraft941> ok now can people test if it acctually works?
#161 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> :ip warcraft941
#162 [01:40] <warcraft941> minecraft address: 192.168.1.140
#163 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not a public ip address
#164 [01:41] <warcraft941> if it didnt work ima rip my balls off
#165 [01:41] <GreyVulpine> !check 63.229.73.117
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#167 [01:42] <Jyro> Lemon-rev you still there/
#168 [01:42] <Jyro> ?
#169 [01:42] <lemon-rev> yes, sorry
#170 [01:42] <lemon-rev> i was trying to click on the link and it froze but i have info up
#171 [01:42] <lemon-rev> im just trying to give you a like to update your vid card nwo
#172 [01:42] <lemon-rev> now*
#173 [01:42] <Jyro> kay!
#174 [01:43] <lemon-rev> hm
#175 [01:43] <lemon-rev> WTF ????.......???? 2006 is the latest :(
#176 [01:44] <warcraft941> so what address should my mc ip be?
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#178 [01:45] <warcraft941> ?
#179 [01:45] <MelonHead> can anyone tell me where i replace my server .jar with the new version .jar I don't see any jar file in my server folder atm ...
#180 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> MelonHead - Are you using the .exe?
#181 [01:45] <Jyro> warcraft941 go to ipchicken.com and tell them that
#182 [01:45] <MelonHead> I have the basic site minecraft server its in a folder i created for it on desktop
#183 [01:46] <MelonHead> it has the exe in it and the files it creates upon running
#184 [01:46] <MelonHead> but it says to update server do the same thing as in your regular minecraft folder /jar file replace
#185 [01:46] <MelonHead> but i see no jar file to replace
#186 [01:47] <lemon-rev> jyro, that card is old i think it should be working but drivers could be messed up, you could try reinstalling your video drivers ?
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#188 [01:47] <lemon-rev> jyro white screen usually relates to old or messed up video drivers :(
#189 [01:47] <Wug> GreyVulpine: wugbot can check people by nickname
#190 [01:47] <Wug> ;check warcraft941
#191 [01:47] <ExperimentalWugBot> 63-229-73-117.phnx.qwest.net:25565 does not host a minecraft server.
#192 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> MelonHead - What file do you run to launch your server?
#193 [01:48] <SinZ> ExperimentalWugBot, aye
#194 [01:48] <MelonHead> uhh the mineecraft dirt block icon .exe thats in my folder
#195 [01:49] <Jyro> Lemon-Rev I have tried so many drivers what are the correct ones?
#196 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> That would be the .exe launcher for windows. It's a self contained server .jar, with an .exe wrapper
#197 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> What you can do, is download the .jar, and run it with a batch file, does the same thing as your .exe
#198 [01:49] <MelonHead> so how would i break into it to replace .jar files?
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#200 [01:49] <MelonHead> got a link ?
#201 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> MelonHead - You don't. You can, however, download the .jar and use that instead
#202 [01:50] <Jyro> WinRar
#203 [01:50] <lemon-rev> jyro, from ati / is usually the site to goto so ati.com < but there drivers are 2006, if you cant get it to run with either site whatever you have tryed then you might just need a newer video card
#204 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/serversetup
#205 [01:50] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#206 [01:50] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#207 [01:50] <GreyVulpine> MelonHead - See "Start the Minecraft Server (jar version on Windows) "
#208 [01:51] <Jyro> ATI is now AMD I believe but its okay I am buying a new motherboard and vc in about a week, just wanted to play it now lol.
#209 [01:51] <Jyro> Lemon-Rev Thank you good sir!
#210 [01:51] <lemon-rev> jyro, i can understand at least you know roughly what it is thats the trouble
#211 [01:52] <MelonHead> ok makes sense but how do I get the .jar only file instead of the .exe wrapped version
#212 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> If you wanted the vanilla server .jar, you would download the minecraft_server.jar from minecraft.net/download
#213 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> If you were looking to launch a modded server .jar, like bukkit, you'd download the bukkit jar instead
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#215 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Both have the same launch command, java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar path/to/minecraft_server.jar
#216 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> The .exe does the same thign
#217 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> thing*
#218 [01:55] <MelonHead> got it so replace the .exe with th ejar ?
#219 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#220 [01:55] <MelonHead> and then add that pathing file
#221 [01:55] <padwack1234> My video card cannot display minecraft could you help this is our card ATI Technology INC
#222 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> MelonHead - Basically, yes.
#223 [01:55] <MelonHead> k ill give it a whirl
#224 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> padwack1234 - That's who makes your video card. Could you give us more information about your system? What operating system are you on? What is the exact model of the video card?
#225 [01:57] <padwack1234> ill tell u
#226 [01:59] <MelonHead> this resource moniter doesent appear in my list when i use start button searc
#227 [01:59] <MelonHead> search*
#228 [01:59] <MelonHead> Resource Moniter*
#229 [02:00] <TheNoodle> *Monitor
#230 [02:00] <MelonHead> dur-_-
#231 [02:01] <MelonHead> hmm stil lnothin
#232 [02:01] <MelonHead> is it a batch file ?
#233 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#234 [02:01] <padwack1234> Intel (R) 82801 GB/GR/GH (ICH7Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller - 27C0
#235 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> That's not a video card. That's your motherboard's SATA controller
#236 [02:02] <MelonHead> open it with notepad?
#237 [02:02] <padwack1234> how do i find out on windows 7
#238 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> padwack1234 - Give us a dxdiag
#239 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> ??> padwack1234 win/dxdiag
#240 [02:02] <VoxelHead> padwack1234: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#241 [02:02] <VoxelHead> padwack1234: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#242 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> MelonHead - Yes, open up notepad, put in: java -Xms512M -Xmx1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar
#243 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Go to file -> save as. Save it as anything that ends in .bat
#244 [02:03] <MelonHead> o ya ive already done that
#245 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Go to File type, choose "all files". Then save the file
#246 [02:03] <MelonHead> im trying to do a memory check to see if i can boost it bit past 512
#247 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Make sure the file is in the same location as the minecraft_server.jar
#248 [02:03] <MelonHead> it runs when i use the batch file but i dont think its updating properly
#249 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> Updating what?
#250 [02:04] <MelonHead> probly cause the update is still a winrar file in the same folder?
#251 [02:04] <MelonHead> the server
#252 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> I don't understand the problem. If the server is running, everything should be the same as when you were doing the .exe
#253 [02:05] <padwack1234> where does it send me to the site
#254 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Provided you have the .jar in the same place as the .exe
#255 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> padwack1234 - When you submit something to pastebin.com, it sends you to a new page. Copy that page's http address, and give it to us
#256 [02:05] <MelonHead> yes but all ive done is change the .exe to a batch essentially I added a manual refrence point to launch instead of just using th epreexsisting launch in the .exe..
#257 [02:05] <MelonHead> the whole purpose of changing the .exe was to update the server
#258 [02:06] <padwack1234> http://pastebin.com/MCwqcLB5
#259 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> You shouldn't be touching the .exe at all anymore
#260 [02:06] <MelonHead> i took the exe out
#261 [02:06] <MelonHead> and put in the batch
#262 [02:06] <MelonHead> and it works to start the server
#263 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Download the .jar to the location where you had the .exe. Make the batch file in the same place. Use the batch file to launch the server
#264 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> That should be all you need to do
#265 [02:06] <MelonHead> the DL comes as a winrar file though
#266 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Probably because winrar's associating itself with .jar on your computer. Nothing to worry about there
#267 [02:07] <MelonHead> you want me to extract al lthe contents to the main folder?
#268 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Don't extract anything
#269 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Leave the .jar as is
#270 [02:07] <MelonHead> ok thats what i did i just put the rar file in the folder
#271 [02:07] <padwack1234> just how do i fix it
#272 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> padwack1234 - You're running a ATI Radeon HD 4350 video card on Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit. The drivers you want to download and install are at http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-32.aspx
#273 [02:09] <MelonHead> When I run it I get the reglar white box and a black command promt type box as well that normal?
#274 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> That's normal
#275 [02:10] <MelonHead> k
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#277 [02:10] <padwack1234> where do i save it
#278 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> padwack1234 - Anywhere you want, as long as you run it
#279 [02:10] <MelonHead> !check
#280 [02:10] <MelonHead> !check
#281 [02:11] <MelonHead> hmm still says its old version in server startup
#282 [02:11] <MelonHead> maybe they didnt update that line?
#283 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> What version does it say?
#284 [02:12] <MelonHead> 1.81
#285 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> That's the latest version
#286 [02:12] <MelonHead> the .jar i put in is 1.9 vers 4 ooo cause its pre
#287 [02:12] * GreyVulpine nods
#287 [02:12] <MelonHead> gotcha lol
#288 [02:13] <MelonHead> well at least I know how to do it for future
#289 [02:13] <MelonHead> on a true release putting the new .jar in place of the old should update it properly ??
#290 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#291 [02:13] <MelonHead> kk
#292 [02:13] <MelonHead> ty much
#293 [02:13] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#293 [02:14] <MelonHead> you my friend spend alot of time in here btw go see some sun somtime :p just lookin out for you no ?? ^^ thanks again
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#295 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> It's what we're here for.
#296 [02:15] <MelonHead> hahah i know and its much appreciated just ribbing you* so to speak
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#301 [02:23] <Chris> is anyone elses server derping at the moment or just mine
#302 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Define "derping"
#303 [02:24] <Chris> Internal client error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection Refused: connect
#304 [02:24] <WTFWatch> My brother just got it.
#305 [02:24] <WTFWatch> On a server that has 21 players.
#306 [02:24] <Chris> yeah, a couple people got it on my server...
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#308 [02:24] <Chris> I can't connect to any servers... I wonder what broke
#309 [02:24] <Chris> SSP is fine
#310 [02:25] * GreyVulpine grumbles
#310 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's down again
#311 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> !auth down
#312 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> !topic add Minecraft server auth is DOWN.
#313 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#314 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> !topic undo
#315 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> !topic insert Minecraft server auth is DOWN
#316 [02:26] * GreyVulpine stabs mollstam
#316 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> http://twitter.com/#!/mollstam/status/128355508804521984
#317 [02:26] <Chris> would you like me to quickly code a bot to tell people on join that the server is down
#318 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> "Argh, game session handling is still up and down. Imma looking into it."
#319 [02:26] <GreyVulpine> I've got it
#320 [02:26] <Chris> okay
#321 [02:26] * GreyVulpine tests that real quick
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#322 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, it's all good
#323 [02:27] <Chris> okay then
#324 [02:27] <Chris> might write one for #minecraft...
#325 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> #minecraft frowns upon bots
#326 [02:28] <Chris> ah okay
#327 [02:28] <Chris> I won't then
#328 [02:29] <Wug> more like they frown on spammy bots
#329 [02:29] * GreyVulpine nods
#329 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Hey wug.. why is wugbot in #minecraft?
#330 [02:29] <Chris> one that just does a join message too spammy?
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#332 [02:30] <Wug> wugbot idles in there and responds to commands and factoids via pm, for the benefit of those who know how to use it
#333 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Ah.. um, you may want to be careful there.
#334 [02:30] <Chris> serverissues minecraft multiplayer is down, try again later :-)
#335 [02:30] <serverissues> can i get help on setting up a server here?
#336 [02:30] <Chris> serverissus, try again later
#337 [02:30] <Wug> GreyVulpine: its been there for a good few months
#338 [02:30] <serverissues> ahh could be
#339 [02:30] <GreyVulpine> Wug - maybe because people haven't found the :commands?
#340 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Or nobody's seen it?
#341 [02:31] <Chris> :help
#342 [02:31] <serverissues> :commands
#343 [02:31] <Wug> those are factoids, and it responds via pm
#344 [02:31] <Chris> :commands
#345 [02:31] <serverissues> :facepalm
#346 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Ah, alright
#347 [02:31] <Chris> yeah, we haven't found them
#348 [02:31] <Wug> :superfacepalm
#349 [02:31] <ExperimentalWugBot> superfacepalm: http://dailyfacepalm.chillpages.com/stroage-pit/uploads/2010/08/1272303749024.png
#350 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> I don't want to see you get kicked for them is all
#351 [02:31] <serverissues> superfacepalm:
#352 [02:31] <serverissues> nope
#353 [02:31] <Wug> you did it wrong
#354 [02:32] <Wug> also that's the best picture ever
#355 [02:32] <Chris> ^
#356 [02:32] <|Kiikun|> lol
#357 [02:32] <serverissues> thru the head palm
#358 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmmm... wonder if session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp is the link that does session handling for servers
#359 [02:34] <|Kiikun|> i thinkith so.
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#361 [02:35] <|Kiikun|> atleast its formatted like it would be
#362 [02:35] * GreyVulpine thinks about adding a query for that later
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#363 [02:36] <Wug> thenoodle asked me to figure out what it was
#364 [02:36] <Wug> you know what, f*ck it. hang on, searching source files...
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#366 [02:36] <_Nefre_> Is the Authentication Server still down?
#367 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Just went down again
#368 [02:36] <Wug> some people think it is
#369 [02:37] <_Nefre_> Just went down again, that makes sense.
#370 [02:37] <PerfectPhoenix> Oh, Is the Auth server thing when Java won't go through?
#371 [02:37] <Wug> I can login just fine
#372 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> I can't
#373 [02:37] <PerfectPhoenix> It tells me Java won't connect
#374 [02:37] <Wug> it seems that the disturbances are very localized
#375 [02:37] <_Nefre_> Yeah, Java won't connect
#376 [02:37] <Wug> we need a massive array of bots
#377 [02:37] <_Nefre_> Connection reset.
#378 [02:37] <Wug> an auth server testing botnet if you will
#379 [02:38] <Wug> of course, it would go down from the load whenever we tested it
#380 [02:38] <PerfectPhoenix> A what? Are they still working on it?
#381 [02:39] <_Nefre_> So, we've established that it's most probably down again, right?
#382 [02:39] <Wug> URL var2 = new URL("http://session.minecraft.net/game/checkserver.jsp?user=" + URLEncoder.encode(this.loginPacket.username, "UTF-8") + "&serverId=" + URLEncoder.encode(var1, "UTF-8"));
#383 [02:39] <Wug> there you go, thats the line that performs the check from serverside
#384 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#385 [02:40] <Wug> so it should be something like http://session.minecraft.net/game/checkserver.jsp?user=<username>&serverId=<serverid>
#386 [02:40] * GreyVulpine nods
#386 [02:40] <Wug> server id is a random number
#387 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> That looks familiar
#388 [02:41] <Wug> with the stipulation that the client must subsequently send a request to the auth server containing the same number
#389 [02:41] <Chris> md5?
#390 [02:41] <_Nefre_> How does that honestly help with the problem of it being down? Wouldn't you just end up flooding the server even more?
#391 [02:41] <Wug> yeah
#392 [02:41] <Wug> hence the botnet joke
#393 [02:41] <_Nefre_> Good point.
#394 [02:42] <PerfectPhoenix> So, what's the link?
#395 [02:46] <_Nefre_> I just got past the down server.
#396 [02:47] <_Nefre_> Found a line of code.
#397 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> !auth up
#398 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> !topic undo
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#401 [02:47] <_Nefre_> Oh wow. It's working.
#402 [02:48] <guest-0-00791> Hi all, I'm having some issues running mo's creatures on a bukkit server
#403 [02:48] <KavaKavaKaliffe> I know it's rather late but could someone help me with an issue I'm having
#404 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> We really support neither, guest-0-00791, for bukkit issues try #bukkit
#405 [02:48] <KavaKavaKaliffe> ?
#406 [02:49] <[L]> KavaKavaKaliffe:
#407 [02:49] <[L]> Issue?
#408 [02:49] <guest-0-00791> okay thanks
#409 [02:49] <KavaKavaKaliffe> yes
#410 [02:49] <guest-0-00791> #bukkit
#411 [02:49] <[L]> Which is?
#412 [02:49] <KavaKavaKaliffe> Ok, I bought Minecraft
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#414 [02:49] <KavaKavaKaliffe> back during alpha
#415 [02:49] <KavaKavaKaliffe> and now when I try to login in, my passcode is incorrect
#416 [02:49] <KavaKavaKaliffe> and it won't send my PW to my email
#417 [02:49] <KavaKavaKaliffe> It's like my account doesn't exist.
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#419 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the old launcher still?
#420 [02:50] <KavaKavaKaliffe> No launcher, can'
#421 [02:50] <KavaKavaKaliffe> can't login from the website.
#422 [02:50] <ferminter> Hey i'm having this problem where whenever i try to logon, it loads up and then it crashes
#423 [02:50] <ferminter> saying something about my drivers stopping
#424 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> ferminter - You may need to try updating your video drivers
#425 [02:51] <ferminter> display drivers*
#426 [02:51] <[L]> Hmmm..
#427 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> KavaKavaKaliffe - Have you tried a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all emails you normally use?
#428 [02:51] <ferminter> yeah that's what i would assume, im just worried because apparently a lot of other people have had this problem too
#429 [02:51] <ferminter> and they said redoing their drivers didn't help
#430 [02:51] <ferminter> ill still try i guess
#431 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> ferminter - It's a common issue.
#432 [02:51] <KavaKavaKaliffe> I have yes, but even if that were the case I remember the username
#433 [02:51] <KavaKavaKaliffe> and passcode
#434 [02:51] <KavaKavaKaliffe> but they don't work.
#435 [02:52] <ferminter> that's not reassuring but thanks hah
#436 [02:52] <KavaKavaKaliffe> Infact
#437 [02:52] <KavaKavaKaliffe> All other emails besides the one I used to sign up don't go through
#438 [02:53] <KavaKavaKaliffe> when I put the appropriate email it says it sending all the information
#439 [02:53] <KavaKavaKaliffe> but nothing in spam folder or inbox.
#440 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> What is your minecraft username?
#441 [02:53] <KavaKavaKaliffe> KavaKavaKaliffe
#442 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> !paid KavaKavaKaliffe
#443 [02:53] <GreyVulpine> System shows you as premium..
#444 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> I just did a "Forget password" thing for you. Check your email in a bit
#445 [02:54] <KavaKavaKaliffe> ok.
#446 [02:54] <KavaKavaKaliffe> I'm assuming it's the email I think it is, to confirm I could tell you the email registered underneath it
#447 [02:54] <KavaKavaKaliffe> just to make sure it's that one
#448 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> We're not Mojang, so it wouldn't do us any good
#449 [02:55] <KavaKavaKaliffe> mhm
#450 [02:56] <KavaKavaKaliffe> Well, if this doesn't work is there anyone else I could probably talk to?
#451 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> You could fill out a support ticket at minecraft.net/support, or you can try emailing mojang directly
#452 [02:57] <[L]> Pff
#453 [02:57] <[L]> Email
#454 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> Last I heard, support@mojang.com has a backlog of 60-70 thousand emails..
#455 [02:57] <Wug> ;+ bukkit #minecrafthelp does not support bukkit. It you are having issues with it, join #bukkit. If you're having issues with a specific plugin, it might have its own channel. If you're unsure, join #bukkit.
#456 [02:57] <ExperimentalWugBot> Done.
#457 [02:57] <KavaKavaKaliffe> I tried sending an email once about an issue I had with my username and it was never really responded to. But I suppose that's fine. But money is another thing.
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#459 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> If nothing else, try emailing daniel@mojang.com or tobias@mojang.com -- First one is Mojang's business director, second is their web admin
#460 [02:59] <GreyVulpine> They're both pretty helpful.
#461 [02:59] <Wug> GreyVulpine: how do I set up permissions
#462 [02:59] <ExperimentalWugBot> Wug: (bukkit) #minecrafthelp does not support bukkit. It you are having issues with it, join #bukkit. If you're having issues with a specific plugin, it might have its own channel. If you're unsure, join #bukkit.
#463 [02:59] <KavaKavaKaliffe> thank you
#464 [02:59] <Wug> ^
#465 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Wug - How do I bukkit?
#466 [03:00] <Wug> oh my god what is this how did it get here I am not good with computer
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#468 [03:01] <lachy2901> I have a gift code question.
#469 [03:01] <Wug> fire away
#470 [03:01] <lachy2901> Can anyone help?
#471 [03:01] <lachy2901> If I buy a gift code now.
#472 [03:01] <lachy2901> can I redeem at christmas?
#473 [03:01] <lachy2901> Or does it expire?
#474 [03:01] <Wug> you can redeem it whenever
#475 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Codes don't expire
#476 [03:01] <Wug> they last until they get used
#477 [03:02] <Wug> what do you think this is, starbucks? ;)
#478 [03:02] <GreyVulpine> I'm sure there's still some unclaimed alpha codes sitting around
#479 [03:02] <lachy2901> Cool, ty! :) My sister's been using my account; Im buying her a gift code for christmas
#480 [03:11] * mib_gxkzsz [mib_gxkzsz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#481 [03:11] <mib_gxkzsz> why did my minecraft crash?
#482 [03:12] <mib_gxkzsz> why did my minecraft crash
#483 [03:12] <Wug> it happens randomly sometimes
#484 [03:12] <Wug> if it was only once than just ignore it
#485 [03:13] <mib_gxkzsz> how do i restart it?
#486 [03:13] <mib_gxkzsz> how do i fix it
#487 [03:13] <Wug> ... just open it aain
#488 [03:13] <Wug> again*
#489 [03:13] <TheNoodle> hmmm
#490 [03:13] <mib_gxkzsz> i did and it has the message again and again
#491 [03:13] <TheNoodle> .logincheck Serverasse nottherealpassword
#492 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Has it ever worked before on that computer? Did you isntall any mods?
#493 [03:13] <mib_gxkzsz> how do i fix it
#494 [03:13] <Wug> what message
#495 [03:13] <TheNoodle> O.o, wrong channel...
#496 [03:14] <TheNoodle> sorry guys :3
#497 [03:14] <mib_gxkzsz> yes it has always worked on my computer
#498 [03:14] <mib_gxkzsz> i deleted meta-inf so i could get the new mod loader
#499 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> And that's why you got the error
#500 [03:14] <mib_gxkzsz> so what do i do?
#501 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> Do a force update using the launcher's options menu to clear the mods from your bin folder. Afterwards, you can try modding it again
#502 [03:15] <mib_gxkzsz> ok
#503 [03:16] <Chris> minecraft auth seems to be back up...
#504 [03:16] <GreyVulpine> Seems to be
#505 [03:16] <mib_gxkzsz> it didnt work
#506 [03:17] <mib_gxkzsz> what else do i do?
#507 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> mib_gxkzsz - Go to your .minecraft folder, delete everything but the "saves" folder. Then relaunch minecraft to have it redownload all the files
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#510 [03:26] <mib_gxkzsz> thankyou so much
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#513 [03:43] <gieves> Anyone need Help?
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#515 [03:49] <lemon-rev> ??> gieves ask
#516 [03:49] <VoxelHead> gieves: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#517 [03:49] <VoxelHead> gieves: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#518 [03:49] <gieves> Alright
#519 [03:51] <Wug> lemon-rev: you're doing it wrong
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#521 [03:54] <lemon-rev> oh
#522 [03:54] <lemon-rev> :(
#523 [03:54] <lemon-rev> lol
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#527 [03:59] <lemon-rev> wug what have i got wrong ?
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#530 [04:04] <dylanbarberdude> hello
#531 [04:04] <lemon-rev> hi
#532 [04:04] <dylanbarberdude> What's up?
#533 [04:04] <lemon-rev> you :P
#534 [04:04] <Wug> <gieves> Anyone need Help?
#535 [04:05] <Wug> he wasnt asking for help
#536 [04:05] <lemon-rev> hm, bah, thats how it looked :P
#537 [04:05] <dylanbarberdude> I played multiplayer with Quatroking
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#539 [04:06] <dylanbarberdude> I joke
#540 [04:06] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez. Google + yahoo?
#541 [04:06] <dylanbarberdude> I've met him tho
#542 [04:07] <dylanbarberdude> Iv'e found 2 surface doungens next to spawn 1 with crap load of iron
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#545 [04:09] <Iridium> this is weird, why can't i place snow onto half slabs?
#546 [04:10] <Chris> ??< ping
#547 [04:10] <Chris> yay
#548 [04:10] <Iridium> ??< ping
#549 [04:10] <Chris> gotta stop bumping my network switch
#550 [04:10] <Iridium> oh lol that doesn't actually tell me my ping?
#551 [04:10] <Chris> nope
#552 [04:10] <Chris> !ping
#553 [04:10] <GreyBot> Chris Your Ping time was 0.561 seconds.
#554 [04:10] <Chris> that does
#555 [04:10] <Iridium> !ping
#556 [04:11] <dylanbarberdude> !ping
#557 [04:11] <GreyBot> dylanbarberdude Your Ping time was 0.749 seconds.
#558 [04:11] <TheNoodle> sign.
#559 [04:11] <Iridium> !ping
#560 [04:11] <GreyBot> Iridium Your Ping time was 0.609 seconds.
#561 [04:11] <TheNoodle> /dns user
#562 [04:11] <Iridium> there we go
#563 [04:11] <Iridium> just ignore me the first time :/
#564 [04:11] <Chris> I gotta stop showing people commands
#565 [04:11] * TheNoodle nods
#565 [04:11] <unitcross> i have a map with a bunch of tiny, unconnected islands. is there a way that i can trick the game into spawning animals
#566 [04:11] <Wug> it doesnt respond to the same command repeatedly
#567 [04:12] <Chris> still spams when people try to use them though
#568 [04:12] <Wug> unitcross: it seems to like to spawn them near sea level
#569 [04:12] <unitcross> is there a needed landmass size?
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#571 [04:26] <serverissues> can i get server help here too?
#572 [04:27] <Calinou> serverissues: yes
#573 [04:27] <Calinou> Iridium: two blocks can't occupy the same space
#574 [04:27] <Calinou> unitcross: by placing monster spawners, but you can't do this without cheating
#575 [04:27] <serverissues> 2nd pc can't connect to this pc with server in it..
#576 [04:27] <serverissues> firewall off already
#577 [04:28] <Calinou> forward port 25565 in TCP, on your router's control panel
#578 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> serverissues - What IP are you trying to connect with?
#579 [04:28] <serverissues> ahh router! kk brb
#580 [04:29] <Wug> ;check serverissues
#581 [04:29] <ExperimentalWugBot> Unable to connect to address: 112.198.78.116:25565 (Timed out)
#582 [04:31] <Iridium> if i kill medium slimes will i still get slimeballs?
#583 [04:34] <Wug> I think you'll get small slimes actually
#584 [04:34] <Iridium> even with lava?
#585 [04:34] <Wug> punch them to death, youll get more slimes
#586 [04:34] <Wug> lava burns them and you get nothing
#587 [04:34] <Iridium> if the lava doesn't burn the slimeballs
#588 [04:35] <Wug> it usually does
#589 [04:35] <Wug> and they dont divide if killed by fire
#590 [04:35] <Iridium> damn
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#592 [04:39] <Iridium> i take it it's this reason why people usually separate their mob and slime farms
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#598 [05:04] <LastSasquatch> is minecraft.net not sending emails for some reason? My login info (which i'm almost sure I have right) isn't working, so to be sure I requested my username/password to be sent to my email. 40 minutes later and I haven't gotten an email in my inbox or junk mail.
#599 [05:04] <blahzers> Im waiting too :/
#600 [05:05] <Thrae> Earlier this week I had to wait up to an hour to get the email -- it can take a while sometimes. Also double-check your Spam folder and make sure you have @minecraft.net whitelisted.
#601 [05:06] <blahzers> The waiting game begins.
#602 [05:06] <LastSasquatch> up to an hour? well that's good news in that I can still expect to get one, but do they send these out manually or something?
#603 [05:07] <Thrae> I think their email servers just get overloaded. It may have something to do with people claiming auth issues right now, too.
#604 [05:08] <LastSasquatch> hm k, guess i'll wait then
#605 [05:08] <blahzers> Age of Empires 2 in the mean time :D
#606 [05:09] * Thrae has an extra copy of Age of Empires 3 laying around
#606 [05:10] <blahzers> Tried Age of Empires Online?
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#608 [05:15] <LastSasquatch> when you sign up for minecraft do you get an email from them at all? When I search my inbox for minecraft I only find the reciept from paypal.
#609 [05:17] <blahzers> I tried that too, and as much as I hoard my emails I didn't have one.
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#615 [05:24] <TheGeekGizmo> Hello
#616 [05:24] <TheGeekGizmo> does anyone know how to change where minecrfat runs .minecrfat??
#617 [05:25] <TheGeekGizmo> minecraft*
#618 [05:25] <Thrae> TheGeekGizmo: Easiest way would be to make a symlink.
#619 [05:26] <Keltinray> or use a batch-file to temporaily change the appdata-location
#620 [05:26] <Keltinray> s'what I do
#621 [05:26] <Thrae> Yeah, that's Windows-only though.
#622 [05:27] <Keltinray> true
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#625 [05:29] <TheGeekGizmo> im on windows so thz :-)
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#627 [05:32] <Iridium> what's the fastest kind of clock i can make now?
#628 [05:33] <Calinou> 1-clock
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#630 [05:48] <blahzers> Anyone want to explain to a noob why his damn furnace doesnt work?
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#632 [05:49] <Crashdownx> Hello, is there a mod help irc channel anywhere?
#633 [05:50] <Thrae> ?? mods
#634 [05:50] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#635 [05:50] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#636 [05:50] <Thrae> Crashdownx: There's also #risucraft
#637 [05:50] <Crashdownx> I just wanted help with turning mods off
#638 [05:50] <Crashdownx> *mobs
#639 [05:51] <Grim_Reaper> Server config or set difficulty to peaceful
#640 [05:52] <Crashdownx> It's on singleplayer, and the mobs are from mo creeps and wierdos, and I heard you can turn certain mobs off via the reasourses file
#641 [05:52] <Grim_Reaper> Not sure about that.
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#643 [05:52] <Grim_Reaper> But why not just turn your game on peaceful? That way they wont spawn
#644 [05:53] <Crashdownx> But I want some mobs to spawn and some mobs not to
#645 [05:53] <Thrae> Grim_Reaper: Might not work with Mo'Creatures, since it's a mod
#646 [05:53] <Grim_Reaper> Oh :o
#647 [05:53] <Grim_Reaper> Didn't read the mo part :p
#648 [05:53] <Crashdownx> It's mo creeps and wierdos aswell XD
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#650 [05:53] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm then not sure
#651 [05:54] <Crashdownx> All I want from mo creeps is the guine pigs
#652 [05:54] <Crashdownx> Theres nothing on youtube about it (that I know of#0
#653 [05:54] <Grim_Reaper> I want notch to add a cute cuddly penguin ;-;
#654 [05:54] <Crashdownx> *)
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#656 [05:55] <Grim_Reaper> I vote we throw eggs at notch's house till he adds penguins
#657 [05:55] <Crashdownx> Theres a penguin mod XD
#658 [05:55] <blahzers> Anyways, I' was following a guide and it told me to make a furnace then put a wood plank on bottom and a few wood blocks on top to make charcoal.... didnt work.
#659 [05:55] <Crashdownx> With baby penguins ect
#660 [05:55] <Crashdownx> Blahzers really? Should work
#661 [05:56] <Grim_Reaper> [11:55] <Crashdownx> Theres a penguin mod XD
#662 [05:56] <Grim_Reaper> Non mod :p
#663 [05:56] <Crashdownx> Did you screw around with your minecraft bin folder? >:O
#664 [05:56] <Crashdownx> Would be nice Grim :P
#665 [05:56] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#666 [05:56] <Thrae> blahzers: Did you place the blocks inside the *furnace* ?
#667 [05:57] <Crashdownx> Grim do you have a server?
#668 [05:57] <Thrae> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Coal_(Item)#Charcoal
#669 [05:57] <LastSasquatch> so it's been over an hour and a half now with no email from minecraft.net. Are we looking at 1-2 hours here or several days?
#670 [05:57] <Crashdownx> I usally go on Kealpers but it's not used much
#671 [05:57] <Grim_Reaper> I used to. But I couldn't afford the hosting anymore
#672 [05:57] <Crashdownx> Aww :C
#673 [05:57] <Grim_Reaper> [11:55] <blahzers> Anyways, I' was following a guide and it told me to make a furnace then put a wood plank on bottom and a few wood blocks on top to make charcoal.... didnt work.
#674 [05:57] <Grim_Reaper> Use wood. Not wooden planks
#675 [05:58] <blahzers> I tried that too
#676 [05:58] <Grim_Reaper> Wood from a tree? unused?
#677 [05:58] <Grim_Reaper> Also try wooden planks at bottom and tree wood on top
#678 [05:58] <blahzers> Yeah. The guide said this anyway: http://www.minecraftopia.com/images/guides/startguide/10.jpg
#679 [05:58] <Grim_Reaper> I know makign charcoal was a little wierd
#680 [05:59] <Grim_Reaper> Lemme test quick on my mc
#681 [06:00] <Crashdownx> Anyway, Grim what server do you go on currently?
#682 [06:00] <Grim_Reaper> Chris's fizzcraft
#683 [06:00] <Crashdownx> Survival or creative?
#684 [06:01] <Grim_Reaper> Survival
#685 [06:01] <Grim_Reaper> blahzers wooden planks bottom > tree wood ontop
#686 [06:01] <Grim_Reaper> Should work
#687 [06:01] <Crashdownx> Ah >;D
#688 [06:01] <Chris> why you pinging me
#689 [06:01] <Grim_Reaper> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Charcoal#Charcoal
#690 [06:01] <Chris> not like that...
#691 [06:01] <Chris> why'd you say my name
#692 [06:01] <Crashdownx> Hmmm
#693 [06:02] <Crashdownx> Is there private chat on this?
#694 [06:02] <blahzers> Ok so the blocks are there.. how do I turn it on?
#695 [06:02] <Grim_Reaper> /query namehere message
#696 [06:02] <Thrae> Crashdownx: /j #smp
#697 [06:02] <Chris> IRC? /msg <person> <message>
#698 [06:02] <Grim_Reaper> Should just start making the charcoal once the two items are placed
#699 [06:03] <blahzers> It's not...
#700 [06:03] <Grim_Reaper> Close minecraft
#701 [06:03] <Grim_Reaper> opent he launcher
#702 [06:03] <blahzers> I
#703 [06:03] <Grim_Reaper> Options > Force Update
#704 [06:03] <blahzers> ll screenshot for you :P
#705 [06:03] <Grim_Reaper> Try see if that fixes it
#706 [06:04] <Crashdownx> Grim is y
#707 [06:04] <Crashdownx> the server private
#708 [06:04] <Grim_Reaper> Ask Chris
#709 [06:04] * Crashdownx test
#709 [06:04] <Crashdownx> Ah
#710 [06:04] * Crashdownx looks at Chris
#710 [06:05] <Chris> what
#711 [06:05] <Crashdownx> Fuuu low battery... brb
#712 [06:05] <Chris> why you looking at me
#713 [06:05] <Crashdownx> Is your server private?
#714 [06:05] <Chris> nope
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#716 [06:06] <Crashdownx> \o/
#717 [06:06] <Chris> its down right now though
#718 [06:06] * Crashdownx kicks the floor
#718 [06:06] <Chris> oh you're kidding me
#719 [06:06] <Crashdownx> ?
#720 [06:07] <Chris> dw, its good
#721 [06:07] <blahzers> http://i.imgur.com/Os6v9.png
#722 [06:07] <blahzers> Tried swapping the 2 around aswell, no charcoal.
#723 [06:08] <Grim_Reaper> What version are you running
#724 [06:08] <Grim_Reaper> Also try reupdating minecraft
#725 [06:08] <Chris> anyone know the command to extract a tar.bz2 in linux?
#726 [06:09] <Grim_Reaper> nope
#727 [06:09] <blahzers> I downloaded it off the site 10 minutes ago, but I'll try doing that force upload
#728 [06:09] <blahzers> Umm it says 1.1.2_01 in top left.
#729 [06:09] <blahzers> update*
#730 [06:09] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah try updating..
#731 [06:09] <Thrae> blahzers: Latest is 1.8.1. Now idea where you're getting that version from.
#732 [06:10] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#733 [06:10] <Grim_Reaper> Whats your username blahzers
#734 [06:10] <Grim_Reaper> For minecraft.net
#735 [06:10] <blahzers> kempy92 i believe
#736 [06:10] <Grim_Reaper> Double check so we can check if it's a username problem :p
#737 [06:11] <Thrae> !paid kempy92
#738 [06:11] <blahzers> im playing offline, cause as mentoned on here earlier ive forgotten my details so i reuested my username/password and downloaded it, and it seems to work offline
#739 [06:11] <blahzers> Cause I bought it back in '10, never played it.
#740 [06:11] <Grim_Reaper> You'll need to update to the lastest version
#741 [06:11] <blahzers> Might explain the old verson, maybe I didn't uninstall it or something.
#742 [06:11] <Thrae> blahzers: You need to be able to login to update it.
#743 [06:11] <Grim_Reaper> Also if you've forgotten your password
#744 [06:11] <Grim_Reaper> You can do a password reset
#745 [06:12] <Grim_Reaper> ?? passreset
#746 [06:12] <Grim_Reaper> pfft
#747 [06:12] <Thrae> Grim_Reaper: Right now the password reset email servers are being very slow.
#748 [06:12] <Grim_Reaper> ee =\
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#750 [06:12] <Iridium> hmm
#751 [06:12] <Grim_Reaper> My password is 12345qwerty
#752 [06:12] <Grim_Reaper> No just kidding >.>
#753 [06:12] <Iridium> my slime spawner isn't spawning hardly any slimes at all
#754 [06:13] <blahzers> Won't that be an email? I haven't even gotten my forgotten username email :P (Remembered it though, so did the client)
#755 [06:13] <Grim_Reaper> Try putting it lower underground
#756 [06:13] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah try the password reset option
#757 [06:13] <Grim_Reaper> Though as Thrae it's kinda slow with email servers
#758 [06:13] <Iridium> can't put it any lower
#759 [06:13] <Grim_Reaper> Oh
#760 [06:13] <Iridium> the lower part of it is half way into the bedrock layer already
#761 [06:13] <Grim_Reaper> I found when my slime spawner was toooo low
#762 [06:13] <Grim_Reaper> It didn't spawn any x-x
#763 [06:14] <Grim_Reaper> So I put it up a couple of blocks higher and bam! it worked :D
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#765 [06:14] <blahzers> So then if my furnace problem was the result of an older version, how do you use those retro furnaces? :P
#766 [06:15] <Iridium> furnaces haven't changed
#767 [06:15] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#768 [06:15] <Grim_Reaper> You just need to update your minecraft
#769 [06:16] <LastSasquatch> on the slowness of password reset servers: I can vouch for this. It's now been over two hours, and no email.
#770 [06:16] <blahzers> It really won't convert my damn wood to charcoal 'til it updates? :P
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#772 [06:17] <Iridium> nope
#773 [06:18] <Iridium> we didn't have charcoal in 1.1 or whatever you said that version was
#774 [06:18] * Iridium sighs
#774 [06:19] <Iridium> gotta wait on a slime to spawn so i can test this actually works
#775 [06:19] <Iridium> and something tells me i'll be here a while
#776 [06:22] <blahzers> Can the night time monsters dig? I was sitting in a stupid cave separated from them by 1 block of dirt, sitting in the dark with my broken furnace.
#777 [06:22] <Iridium> well endermen can
#778 [06:23] <Iridium> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Endermen
#779 [06:23] <Iridium> but if you haven't updated you wont get any of them
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#781 [06:24] <blahzers> Just wiaitng for my password reset email and I'll update.
#782 [06:24] <blahzers> Cause I finally got the balls to dig through the wall, it's daytime.. and a spider jumps on in and kills me.
#783 [06:24] <Iridium> ouch
#784 [06:26] <Iridium> yay a slime finally spawned
#785 [06:28] <blahzers> Can I just download the minecraft.jar in the #minecraft channel and replace the one in my .minecraft/bin?
#786 [06:29] <LastSasquatch> ^ this
#787 [06:30] <blahzers> Think it worked.
#788 [06:31] <Iridium> how many ladders will a slime climb before falling?
#789 [06:31] <Sardonicus> 783587538
#790 [06:31] <blahzers> It worked! But the new one is so depressing :
#791 [06:32] <Sardonicus> hooray
#792 [06:32] <LastSasquatch> hey you're right, it did work
#793 [06:32] <LastSasquatch> adventure update here i come
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#796 [06:38] <Iridium> no really, how many ladders will a slime climb before falling?
#797 [06:39] <Iridium> tiny slime that is
#798 [06:39] <blahzers> How long do torches last
#799 [06:40] <Iridium> forever
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#801 [06:41] <LastSasquatch> been ages since i played, can you make minecraft go fullscreen?
#802 [06:42] <Thrae> /topic
#803 [06:42] <quiggle> goooood evening ppl, cud someone here help me out with wid a bit of problem Im facing???
#804 [06:42] <petern> f11
#805 [06:42] <LastSasquatch> ah yea thanks
#806 [06:42] <LastSasquatch> quiggle, whats up
#807 [06:43] <Thrae> LastSasquatch: You can also just maximize the window and it's basically the same thing
#808 [06:43] <quiggle> well, I've come back to minecraft after a loooong time
#809 [06:43] <quiggle> and i noticed dat im unable to login
#810 [06:43] <LastSasquatch> i don't like seeing the taskbar thoough =p
#811 [06:43] <quiggle> da username and password is da same though, no change
#812 [06:43] <Thrae> quiggle: What
#813 [06:43] <LastSasquatch> so you went to get your username back and didn't get an email?
#814 [06:43] <Thrae> quiggle: What's your Minecraft username?
#815 [06:43] <quiggle> its not changed at all
#816 [06:43] <quiggle> its da same as b4
#817 [06:44] <quiggle> but it isnt working anymore
#818 [06:44] <LastSasquatch> what happens when you try and log in
#819 [06:44] <quiggle> my i.d is : srinag
#820 [06:44] <Thrae> !paid srinag
#821 [06:44] <quiggle> yes i have
#822 [06:44] <quiggle> paid 4 it
#823 [06:44] <LastSasquatch> !paid LastSasquatch
#824 [06:44] <Thrae> quiggle: OK, did you try http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword ?
#825 [06:45] <quiggle> yup, i did try it, buut even after 3 hours I havent got any mail
#826 [06:45] <Iridium> !paid FuttBucker
#827 [06:45] <LastSasquatch> quiggle, the email server isn't working right now
#828 [06:45] <Thrae> quiggle: There's problems with their servers right now...it may be good just to wait
#829 [06:45] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#830 [06:45] <quiggle> wen i try loggin in, it jus says "Login Failed"
#831 [06:45] <LastSasquatch> i did the same thing 2 hours ago
#832 [06:45] <Iridium> :D if i ever loose my account that'll be my new account :D
#833 [06:45] <quiggle> !paid agfasgfasgf
#834 [06:46] <quiggle> !paid srinag
#835 [06:46] <LastSasquatch> ok you're having exactly the same problem i am quiggle. My password isn't working for God knows what reason, but they aren't sending emails so I've just gotta wait
#836 [06:46] <Grim_Reaper> !paid AuBot
#837 [06:46] <quiggle> nice tool
#838 [06:46] <LastSasquatch> !paid AuBot
#839 [06:46] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#840 [06:46] <LastSasquatch> hey
#841 [06:46] <LastSasquatch> hivemind
#842 [06:46] <Thrae> Stop with the bot abuse
#843 [06:46] <quiggle> hehehe
#844 [06:46] <quiggle> ok, i'll wait
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#846 [06:47] <LastSasquatch> you can just play offline if you want to play single player, if you need to update you can download the .jar for the latest version, then go to %appdata%/.minecraft/bin and replace minecraft.jar with the new version
#847 [06:47] <quiggle> any idea wehn they'll get it right?
#848 [06:47] <LastSasquatch> no clue
#849 [06:48] <quiggle> hmmm, i'll play offline i guess
#850 [06:48] <quiggle> thanx ppl
#851 [06:48] <Thrae> LastSasquatch: You can't download the minecraft.jar in bin except through the launcher.
#852 [06:48] <quiggle> :)
#853 [06:48] <Thrae> Minecraft.net doesn't provide it anywhere else
#854 [06:48] <LastSasquatch> 1.9 is
#855 [06:49] <Thrae> Yes, but you said "if you need to update", which implies they're updating to the latest stable, not a pre-release
#856 [06:49] <Iridium> such a shame 1.9 isn't gonna be released till after skyrim
#857 [06:49] <LastSasquatch> well if he can't log in, the next best thing is to go to the prerelease if he doesn't want to play 1.stone age
#858 [06:49] <Thrae> We don't recommend people go out and update to 1.9-pre unless they want to
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#860 [06:49] <Thrae> Well that's true
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#862 [06:49] <Howsya> morning all
#863 [06:50] <Thrae> But I still wouldn't say 1.9-pre is the "latest version", it's confusing
#864 [06:50] <Howsya> is there by chance anyone here who has setup a server before for minecraft?
#865 [06:50] <Iridium> yup
#866 [06:51] <Thrae> Howsya: Did you read http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server ?
#867 [06:51] <Howsya> i did
#868 [06:51] <Howsya> the server works fine
#869 [06:51] <Howsya> i can connect to it
#870 [06:51] <Howsya> and everything is dandy
#871 [06:51] <Thrae> Howsya: Did you do port forwarding?
#872 [06:52] <Howsya> Thrae no offence but dont start throwing answers to me when you dont even know the problem
#873 [06:52] <Iridium> is the problem that nobody else can connect?
#874 [06:53] <Thrae> Sorry for trying to be helpful.
#875 [06:53] <blahzers> Reading a mining guuide, it says dont dig straight down as you might fall into a pit of creepers. Even during the day?
#876 [06:53] <Grim_Reaper> Yup
#877 [06:53] <Grim_Reaper> Cave = Dark
#878 [06:53] <Howsya> no not at all Thrae being helpful is what i am after and i appriciate you supplying your knowledge to the conversation
#879 [06:53] <Grim_Reaper> Oh and lava is also a possibility
#880 [06:54] <Thrae> blahzers: Sunlight is what burns the enemies, although specifically Creepers don't de-spawn during day
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#882 [06:55] <libraryaddict> !isup
#883 [06:55] <Howsya> i am trying to run IndustrialCraft2 on the server for my friends to play around with. At the moment i am the only one logging onto the server for testing purposes
#884 [06:55] <libraryaddict> !isdown
#885 [06:55] <Thrae> blahzers: Generally a good idea to at least dig at least 1 block around you instead of at your feet, switching so you have at least 2-wide shaft
#886 [06:55] <GreyBot> libraryaddict: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#887 [06:55] <libraryaddict> !ip
#888 [06:55] <Thrae> libraryaddict: The auth servers are having some problems right now
#889 [06:55] <libraryaddict> !myip
#890 [06:55] <libraryaddict> !isdown 115.188.12.137
#891 [06:55] <libraryaddict> bler
#892 [06:55] <GreyBot> libraryaddict: It's not just you! http://115.188.12.137 looks down from here.
#893 [06:55] <libraryaddict> Command for checking server?
#894 [06:56] <Thrae> libraryaddict: !check
#895 [06:56] <libraryaddict> !check 115.188.12.137
#896 [06:56] <libraryaddict> pervert
#897 [06:56] <Howsya> all Standard MC Recipes work and can be pulled from the Workbench. However any additional recipes from the IC section are 'stuck' to the workbench and cannot pull them out of it
#898 [06:56] <libraryaddict> Howsya maybe you didnt install the server IC2 correctly?
#899 [06:56] <Howsya> its a drag and drop
#900 [06:56] <libraryaddict> Yes
#901 [06:57] <Howsya> well according to the install guide
#902 [06:57] <libraryaddict> Drag and drop IC2 into the mods folder
#903 [06:57] <Howsya> i have installed the Forge/MLoaderMP+Fix into the server.jar
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#905 [06:57] <Howsya> dropped the IC2 into the mods folder
#906 [06:58] <libraryaddict> Does the server say [INFO] Mod Loaded: mod_IC2 v1.23
#907 [06:58] <libraryaddict> or 1.15
#908 [06:58] <Howsya> let me check
#909 [06:58] <Iridium> woah, there's a mod that ports single player mods to smp?
#910 [06:58] <libraryaddict> Nope. But they made a SMP version
#911 [06:58] <Iridium> oh ok
#912 [06:59] * Iridium is disappoint
#912 [06:59] <Howsya> hmmm
#913 [06:59] <Thrae> I think /j #risucraft will be able to help you further
#914 [07:00] <Howsya> according to the server log it doesnt even get loaded
#915 [07:00] <Thrae> We generally don't help with mods in this channel, although people are welcome to personally help people.
#916 [07:00] <Howsya> hang on checking
#917 [07:01] <Howsya> yep that worked
#918 [07:01] <Howsya> forgot to put the mod in the server folder
#919 [07:01] <Howsya> give me 2 mins testing in server
#920 [07:01] <Thrae> That reminds me one of these days to retry ItemCraft on Bukkit
#921 [07:02] <Iridium> itemcraft?
#922 [07:02] <Thrae> ItemCraft is a Bukkit plugin & mod that allows SMP vanilla mods to be used
#923 [07:03] <Iridium> that's awesome
#924 [07:03] <Iridium> wait
#925 [07:03] <Iridium> nm i misread that
#926 [07:03] <Thrae> There's also someone who does ModLoaderSMP compatibility with ItemCraft
#927 [07:07] <Iridium> i'm confused now, and the description for that is badly worded
#928 [07:07] <Iridium> that thing allows modloader plug ins to be used in SMP?
#929 [07:08] <Howsya> well god knows what went different this time around, but the mod is working fine now.
#930 [07:08] <Howsya> Many thanks for your help people
#931 [07:08] <Thrae> It allows ModLoaderSMP and non-ModLoader SMP mods working with Bukkit.
#932 [07:08] <Iridium> i thought SMP mods worked with bukkit anyway....
#933 [07:10] <Thrae> Nope, they don't, as Bukkit is a server mod
#934 [07:12] <Iridium> wouldn't bukkit be a be redundant if it couldn't use Multi Player mods
#935 [07:12] <blahzers> Is there anyway to get like a tooltip of what sort of block your looking at
#936 [07:12] <Thrae> Bukkit has a vast plugin system
#937 [07:13] <Iridium> i know what it is, i use it to load mods for SMP
#938 [07:13] <Thrae> Plugins are different than mods. Unless the mod was specifically made for Bukkit, and most aren't, you need ItemCraft as a bridge.
#939 [07:13] <Iridium> oh right
#940 [07:14] <Thrae> Also if it's ModLoaderSMP then you need the Bukkit version of ModLoaderSMP
#941 [07:15] <Sardonicus> mhmhhh
#942 [07:16] * Sardonicus mhs @ Thrae
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#943 [07:16] <PicklishDoorknob> hi
#944 [07:16] <Sardonicus> afk
#945 [07:16] <Sardonicus> hi Non, gtg
#946 [07:17] <Sardonicus> *Nob
#947 [07:17] <PicklishDoorknob> ?
#948 [07:17] <Sardonicus> afk
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#951 [07:20] <Robert> I have the difficulty in my server.properties set to 1 which should be easy mode. I only get damaged down to half life like easy but mobs are still fighting like it is in hard mode.
#952 [07:20] <Robert> Has anyone else had this problem.
#953 [07:20] <Robert> I'm using 1.9pre4 btw so it might be a new bug.
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#955 [07:21] <Robert> Mobs might be working in normal mode not hard but I'm sure they are alot harder then they would be in easy mode.
#956 [07:21] <skopie> Hi
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#959 [07:23] <mib_z64x3x> why cant i log into minecraft.net from minecraft
#960 [07:23] <mib_m57cav> beta randomly crashes?
#961 [07:23] <Robert> Can anyone hear me? I'm new to using irc chat so I'm not sure if I have this set up right.
#962 [07:26] <blahzers> How do I get through the blocks that are light bronw/dark brown & a bit black?
#963 [07:26] <skopie> Hello, I'm trying to retrieve my password with the (guess it) "retrieve password" form that minecraft dot net has in the website. Not working at all, it has been 4 hours, and no email so far. Anyone any idea/s why this is happening? :-D
#964 [07:28] <Robert> Do I have the chat set up right, can anyone hear me?
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#966 [07:31] <Thrae> skopie: Right now the email servers appear to be experiencing problems. All we can suggest is to wait until later today.
#967 [07:31] <Thrae> Robert: You have been heard.
#968 [07:32] <Thrae> blahzers: That sounds like Bedrock. You can't get through Bedrock in Survival.
#969 [07:32] <Thrae> Bedrock is at the edge of the world.
#970 [07:32] <skopie> Thanks Thrae!
#971 [07:33] <Robert> Thrae Do you know why my server difficulty isn't working right?
#972 [07:33] <blahzers> Finally, I think I've found Gold. I mine iit (takes ages) and get nothing out of it. How do I harness it?
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#974 [07:34] <Thrae> blahzers: You need a better pick to mine better ores. Iron is Stone or better, Gold would be Iron or better.
#975 [07:34] <LastSasquatch> you need an iron pick
#976 [07:35] <LastSasquatch> that's what i did with my first diamond my very first time playing. Sat there for like 10 minutes mining it with stone pick, and then it just explodes. T_T
#977 [07:35] <Robert> I have the difficulty in my server.properties set to 1 which should be easy mode. I only get damaged down to half life like easy but mobs are still fighting like it is in hard mode.
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#979 [07:36] <Robert> Sorry for chating that again, it just seems like the chat is more active now.
#980 [07:38] <meneken17> has anybody an idear why i alwais got "can't connect to minecraft.net" after logging in?
#981 [07:38] <Thrae> ??> Robert dont/pm
#982 [07:38] <VoxelHead> Robert: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#983 [07:38] <Robert> Oh ok sorry.
#984 [07:38] <Thrae> meneken17: Servers are a little wonky right now. Just keep trying, waiting about 5 minutes between a batch of tries.
#985 [07:39] <meneken17> hm ok tried id yesterday and id hadnt worked as well...
#986 [07:40] <meneken17> could it be a problem with the firewall?
#987 [07:40] <Thrae> meneken17: Hmm, can you play in http://www.minecraft.net/play ?
#988 [07:41] <meneken17> mom
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#991 [07:43] <meneken17> yep works but without my mods
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#993 [07:44] <meneken17> ehm why does ist reset my minecraft.jar?
#994 [07:45] <Veno> Hello,I have soem trouble to make the game work, I have the blackscreen problem.Can someone take time to healp me?
#995 [07:45] <meneken17> have u installed a mod?
#996 [07:45] <Veno> No
#997 [07:45] <meneken17> which version are u playing on?
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#999 [07:46] <AdamTheYan> hey guys
#1000 [07:46] <meneken17> hi
#1001 [07:46] <AdamTheYan> i cant create my own minecraft server
#1002 [07:46] <Veno> it seems to be the 1.8
#1003 [07:46] <AdamTheYan> any idea how to do it? im using 1.8.1
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#1005 [07:47] <Veno> I check my graphic cards driver, I deleted bin in minecraft. net
#1006 [07:47] <Veno> I force update around 15 times but it still don t work
#1007 [07:48] <AdamTheYan> same i cant update my ver lol
#1008 [07:48] <meneken17> hm ok
#1009 [07:48] <meneken17> any texturepacks?
#1010 [07:48] <Veno> I didn t aplly any texture pack
#1011 [07:49] <meneken17> @adam whats your problem?
#1012 [07:49] <AdamTheYan> i cant start up my own server
#1013 [07:49] <AdamTheYan> i dont know how to, actually
#1014 [07:49] <AdamTheYan> i downloaded the minecraft_server.exe already
#1015 [07:49] <meneken17> @veno hm than no idear sorry
#1016 [07:50] <Veno> ok thx for giving me some of your time, hav a good day
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#1020 [07:51] <meneken17> @adam what happend if you launch it?
#1021 [07:54] <AdamTheYan> it says done
#1022 [07:55] <AdamTheYan> but how do i create my own server?
#1023 [07:55] <AdamTheYan> its working fine but i dont know how to create my own server
#1024 [07:55] <AdamTheYan> [INFO] Done (1192244240ns)! For help, type "help" or "?"
#1025 [07:56] <Robert> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1026 [07:56] <meneken17> running the exe shuld create some textdocuments to config your server
#1027 [07:56] <Robert> That is a great tutorial, I used that one to help me set up my server.
#1028 [07:56] <meneken17> it taks an ip adsress you just have to connect to
#1029 [07:57] <AdamTheYan> oh ok
#1030 [07:57] <AdamTheYan> thanks
#1031 [07:57] <meneken17> ile running the server exe
#1032 [07:58] <AdamTheYan> lemmie reinstall
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#1034 [07:58] <meneken17> what?
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#1036 [08:00] <m4cr0bat> Assuming that my redstone is wired correctly (with repeaters) for a length of 300 blocks, if i have to travel the length of the redstone just so that the chunks load for the redstone signal to pass through, how can i fix this (on an SMP server), anyone know?
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#1038 [08:01] <meneken17> no idear but whatfor do u need a 300 block redstone wire?
#1039 [08:02] <m4cr0bat> running it alongside a minecart track, making it so i can call a minecart back from starting position
#1040 [08:02] <m4cr0bat> (using powered rails)
#1041 [08:02] <Robert> If the problem is having to walk all that way you could make a mine track with some powered rails
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#1043 [08:03] <Robert> and have them hooked up to your redstone circut.
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#1045 [08:03] <m4cr0bat> yeah ive done that, what i want it to be able to do is 1 person on one end of the track wants to ride said minecart but minecart is at the other end of track, they can call it back
#1046 [08:03] <m4cr0bat> in theory it works
#1047 [08:04] <LastSasquatch> question: is one porkchop supposed to keep you full for 2 days. Because I started losing hunger at the start of the game, and then ate a porkchop to return to full, and have since spent a full 2 days sprinting and jumping and am still on full hunger
#1048 [08:04] <m4cr0bat> but for some reason (i dont know) i have to travel to load the chunks just so the redstone signal can go thru, otherwise it gets to a point and doesnt go further
#1049 [08:05] <m4cr0bat> sasquatch, you running vanilla minecraft, or are on a server?
#1050 [08:05] <Robert> @ LastSasquatch hunger always seemed really buggy to me, sometimes I will go through hunger really fast but most of the time I go through it really slow, but my friend I play with goes through hunger really fast.
#1051 [08:05] <meneken17> can confirm hunger is verry buggy =)
#1052 [08:06] <LastSasquatch> yeah im in the normal game, this is the first time i've played since 1.8
#1053 [08:07] <Robert> The one thing hunger has going for it is its the only thing that is working with my problem lol.
#1054 [08:08] <meneken17> knows anyone a good creative server?
#1055 [08:08] <Robert> Hey meneken do you have any advice on my problem?
#1056 [08:09] <LastSasquatch> ah there we go, i just switched to peaceful and back and im getting hungry again, aparently the hunger bar thought i was on peaceful and was regenerating
#1057 [08:09] <m4cr0bat> Hate to derail this, but no one knows of a solution to my redstone problem?
#1058 [08:09] <meneken17> no
#1059 [08:10] <Robert> If your sure your wiring is right the only thing I could thing of would be some kind of mod.
#1060 [08:10] <meneken17> but why is ther no minecrat were u are?
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#1063 [08:10] <m4cr0bat> efficiency, only making it one minecart (experimenting with an idea)
#1064 [08:10] <meneken17> you would need a mod that makes more chunks loading
#1065 [08:10] <m4cr0bat> hmm
#1066 [08:11] <meneken17> and that woud kill the most pcs
#1067 [08:11] <m4cr0bat> its just interesting, because you see all those guys that make the 16 bit ALU's and whatnot, thats tons of redstone wire there...
#1068 [08:11] <mhoppi> Hello Guys, i cant play minecraft anymore.I load the minecraft.exe and enter my account details, but then when the logo should appear it just crashes to desktop. ive tried reinstall java minecraft and also delete the .minecraft folder.
#1069 [08:12] <Robert> Can you think of any solution to my issue meneken?
#1070 [08:13] <meneken17> no no idear
#1071 [08:13] <Robert> Hmmm oh well, thanks anyways.
#1072 [08:14] <meneken17> @m4cr0mbat yeah I see this and see my computer lagging massiv with smaller circuits
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#1075 [08:15] <m4cr0bat> really? hmm
#1076 [08:16] <meneken17> yep cant help you sorry but always remind Google is your friend
#1077 [08:16] <meneken17> bye
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#1079 [08:22] <kempy92> im digging and i keep hearing water sounds pop up. Does that mean water is near or is just random? Cause ive dug all around and nothing.
#1080 [08:24] <Chris> dig a big 50x50x50 square around yourself, you'll find it
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#1084 [08:28] <kempy92> Also anyway to tell if when you mine a block if the one above it will fall? seems random
#1085 [08:30] <LastSasquatch> specific blocks fall
#1086 [08:30] <LastSasquatch> sand falls
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#1088 [08:30] <LastSasquatch> most don't
#1089 [08:30] <LastSasquatch> gravel falls as well
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#1091 [08:30] <Jacksite> tnt falls but only when ignited
#1092 [08:33] <clarjon1> kempy92: if it's sand or gravel, it's gonna fall :)
#1093 [08:33] <clarjon1> or water
#1094 [08:33] <clarjon1> water will 'fall'
#1095 [08:33] <clarjon1> same with lava...
#1096 [08:34] <kempy92> Alright.. And that water sound from earlier... Does Lava have the a waterish sound ?Cause i found a ridiculous amount
#1097 [08:34] <clarjon1> I love how in 1.9 there's the lava/water indicator that is coming :)
#1098 [08:35] <libraryaddict> water/lava indicator?
#1099 [08:35] <libraryaddict> The dripping?
#1100 [08:36] <clarjon1> yeah
#1101 [08:36] <libraryaddict> Agreed
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#1103 [08:37] <Luminiferous> hello there, anyone here?
#1104 [08:37] <clarjon1> Only us zombies ;)
#1105 [08:37] <Luminiferous> oh dear
#1106 [08:37] <kempy92> Is pickaxe durability based on how many blocks destroyed or how many swing?
#1107 [08:37] <kempy92> s*
#1108 [08:38] <clarjon1> kempy92: destroyed
#1109 [08:38] <libraryaddict> torches and redstone count as blocks lol
#1110 [08:39] <Luminiferous> so, does anyone here know how to install the cubic chunks mod? because I keep trying to (following the instructions laid out) and it keeps breaking MC
#1111 [08:40] <clarjon1> Luminiferous: We don't support mods here.
#1112 [08:40] <Luminiferous> fair enough
#1113 [08:40] <clarjon1> Luminiferous: Did you remember to remove the META-INF folder?
#1114 [08:40] <Luminiferous> yup
#1115 [08:40] <clarjon1> and you'd have to install any supporting mods
#1116 [08:40] <Luminiferous> removed meta-inf, added mod loader
#1117 [08:40] <clarjon1> was it add modloader, add cubic mod, remove meta-inf
#1118 [08:40] <clarjon1> in that order?
#1119 [08:41] <Luminiferous> nothing on the order
#1120 [08:41] <clarjon1> ah
#1121 [08:41] <clarjon1> well, modloader always goes in first
#1122 [08:41] <clarjon1> then the mod you want
#1123 [08:42] <Luminiferous> I shall try that then
#1124 [08:42] <clarjon1> and if that doesn't work, post a support request, with any errors in terminal/console to the plugin developer on their forum page
#1125 [08:42] <clarjon1> ( the topic you got the mod from )
#1126 [08:43] <Luminiferous> I would, if it weren't for the fact that the website refuses to load for me
#1127 [08:44] <clarjon1> The minecraft forums are down?
#1128 [08:44] <clarjon1> it's up here
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#1130 [08:45] <clarjon1> hmm, seems it's derpy lol
#1131 [08:46] <clarjon1> oooooh
#1132 [08:47] <Luminiferous> nope, tried modloader -> cubicchunks -> delete meta-inf, but I sitll get the black screen of doom
#1133 [08:48] <Calinou> is the mod updated?
#1134 [08:48] <Calinou> mods only, and ONLY work for the version they are compiled for
#1135 [08:48] <Calinou> people forget that too much these days
#1136 [08:48] <Luminiferous> it should be the latest version, 18.1
#1137 [08:48] <Luminiferous> *1.8.1
#1138 [08:48] <Calinou> a Beta 1.7.3 mod will NOT work for 1.8.1
#1139 [08:48] <Calinou> read the thread carefully
#1140 [08:48] <Calinou> have you downloaded the right version?
#1141 [08:49] <Calinou> can you give me a link to the mod thread please?
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#1143 [08:51] <clarjon1> There is a beta 1.8 version
#1144 [08:52] <Luminiferous> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/310298-181robintons-mods/#CubicChunksDownload
#1145 [08:55] <LastSasquatch> does minecraft autosave yet? I remember when i started if the game crashed you'd have to start over to the last time you quit normally
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#1150 [08:57] <clarjon1> depends on where it crashes
#1151 [08:57] <clarjon1> chunks save automatically
#1152 [08:58] <clarjon1> but your level.dat can be wiped out occasionally...
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#1155 [08:58] <guest-832488-75960> Geeez, my game just keeps closing after 15 minutes in game
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#1157 [08:59] <mib_41ke05> Anyone who can help me...my game dont work..
#1158 [09:00] <clarjon1> mib_41ke05: We'll need more data than "Don't work"
#1159 [09:00] <clarjon1> mib_41ke05: There are many many reasons why it could be "not working" you see...
#1160 [09:00] <mib_41ke05> It starts but then everything just stops...the image just freez..
#1161 [09:01] <clarjon1> where does it stop
#1162 [09:02] <mib_41ke05> when it begins...
#1163 [09:02] <clarjon1> Use your words, please, you need to be more descriptive
#1164 [09:02] <clarjon1> I can't see your screen, remember.
#1165 [09:04] <mib_41ke05> the game start´..i can see the surrondings and my health and weapons...but then it freeze...nothing works..i cant even get the meny to exit...
#1166 [09:04] <Luminiferous> okay, so the error I'm getting is apparently something about a "java.lang.NoSuchMethodError"
#1167 [09:06] <clarjon1> Luminiferous: it looks like the 1.8 version of your mod requires the Forge mod to also be installed...
#1168 [09:06] <Luminiferous> it is
#1169 [09:07] <clarjon1> welp, it's time to post a request for help on the mod topic :)
#1170 [09:07] <Luminiferous> aye, seems so
#1171 [09:07] <clarjon1> make sure to post the error log :)
#1172 [09:07] <Luminiferous> well, thanks for your help anyway, it's been much-appreciated
#1173 [09:07] <clarjon1> use the [code][/code] tags to keep it compact
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#1175 [09:10] <Luminiferous> thansk you
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#1181 [09:36] <petern> w/in 24
#1182 [09:36] <petern> f/ail
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#1185 [09:40] <McKay82> Hello Guys, i've a problems to login, "Failed to launch (4)" what happened?
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#1189 [09:45] <AndySG> I have bought the game but it says that im not premium when i try to log ind? what should i do?
#1190 [09:46] <AndySG> any one there now what i should do?
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#1192 [09:48] <LastSasquatch> andy, just wait, it can take a while
#1193 [09:48] <AndySG> i bought it yesterday
#1194 [09:49] <AndySG> but thanks
#1195 [09:49] <AndySG> :D
#1196 [09:51] <Thrae> ?? payment
#1197 [09:51] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1198 [09:51] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1199 [09:52] <Thrae> AndySG: Verify with your bank or card issuer that payment was actually made.
#1200 [09:52] <Thrae> AndySG: Also, did you get any errors when you payed yesterday? Any errors at all?
#1201 [09:52] <AndySG> it is made
#1202 [09:52] <AndySG> no
#1203 [09:52] <Thrae> AndySG: And how did you verify that?
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#1206 [09:58] <AndySG> i dont got an email from then+
#1207 [10:03] <Thrae> AndySG: So you didn't contact your bank or card issuer?
#1208 [10:04] <Thrae> If you don't contact your bank or card issuer, and don't have a confirmation email from Mojang, you have NO verification.
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#1211 [10:07] <jebuskrid> oh hai there
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#1215 [10:11] <lisa> which credit cards are accepted?
#1216 [10:16] <AndySG> thanks
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#1218 [10:17] <MariusH> My minecraft closes before showing the logo. i tried reinstalling my java and deleting the .minecraft folder. I also downloaded a new minecraft exe. What may be the problem? Should i post the error logfile here?
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#1221 [10:21] <guest-257298-98853> Can anyone help me, i cannot seem to get the password reset function to work, i do not receive the email with the link on how to reset
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#1225 [10:28] <sproing> can some1 help me?
#1226 [10:30] <sproing> i am trying to industrial craft mod and it told me to get the mod loader by that rig guy so i did
#1227 [10:30] <sproing> i now al my ds and texture packs are gone and my world =(
#1228 [10:31] <sproing> well i dont realy care about my worlds but now i cant get any of my mods back wado wrong!ht did i
#1229 [10:31] <sproing> stupid keybored
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#1232 [10:35] <clarjon1> ....
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#1235 [10:37] <galuwyr> Hi guys
#1236 [10:37] <galuwyr> I bought MC , but if I try to login MC says : fatal error occured (4):null
#1237 [10:38] <galuwyr> I already updated java
#1238 [10:38] <galuwyr> reinstalled mc
#1239 [10:38] <galuwyr> Someone knows what i can do?
#1240 [10:39] <Calinou> what java version do you use
#1241 [10:39] <Calinou> what is your operating system
#1242 [10:39] <Calinou> are your graphic drivers up to date
#1243 [10:39] <galuwyr> yes , its all up to date...
#1244 [10:39] <Calinou> ...and your OS/java?
#1245 [10:39] <Calinou> do NOT use java 7
#1246 [10:39] <galuwyr> where i can see if i use java 7?
#1247 [10:40] <Calinou> ?? java/version
#1248 [10:40] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1249 [10:40] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1250 [10:40] <Calinou> galuwyr: read what VoxelHead said
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#1252 [10:40] <Balee> D:
#1253 [10:40] <galuwyr> yes it load
#1254 [10:40] <galuwyr> s
#1255 [10:41] <Balee> The plot thickens.
#1256 [10:41] <Balee> Who was here yesternight, when we discussed weird damages?
#1257 [10:41] <Balee> Cacti in particular, from above.
#1258 [10:42] <Calinou> uh?
#1259 [10:42] <Balee> Apparently it's not just cacti.
#1260 [10:42] <Balee> But fire too.
#1261 [10:43] <Balee> With appropriate effect as well.
#1262 [10:43] <Balee> Wonder what else could I try this with.
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#1266 [10:44] <Sk9rm> Hi, Minecraft isn't working for me.
#1267 [10:44] <Sk9rm> It says "Switching Applet" and then is black.
#1268 [10:44] <Sk9rm> Help?
#1269 [10:44] <galuwyr> Calinou?
#1270 [10:44] <Sk9rm> Huh?
#1271 [10:44] <Sk9rm> Oh.
#1272 [10:44] <Calinou> what is your operating system, what is your java version, Sk9rm
#1273 [10:44] <Calinou> and are your graphic drivers up to date?
#1274 [10:45] <galuwyr> Java SE 6 Update 29 , this is what i use
#1275 [10:45] <Sk9rm> I'm on the newest version of Java.
#1276 [10:45] <Sk9rm> Windows 7 Home Premium.
#1277 [10:45] <Sk9rm> Firefox or Chrome.
#1278 [10:45] <Sk9rm> Intel processor.
#1279 [10:45] <Sk9rm> xD
#1280 [10:45] <clarjon1> Sk9rm: 64 bit or 32 bit
#1281 [10:45] <Sk9rm> Let me check.
#1282 [10:45] <Sk9rm> 64 bit.
#1283 [10:46] <clarjon1> make sure you have both 64bit and 32bit java installed
#1284 [10:46] <Sk9rm> How? O_O
#1285 [10:46] <clarjon1> Sk9rm: http://java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
#1286 [10:46] <Sk9rm> Ok, thanks.
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#1289 [10:56] <galuwyr> Damn it -.-
#1290 [10:57] <galuwyr> First it gave me such pleasure to minecraft and now it doesn't work
#1291 [10:58] <galuwyr> Calinou?
#1292 [10:58] <Calinou> was away
#1293 [10:59] <Calinou> <clarjon1> make sure you have both 64bit and 32bit java installed
#1294 [10:59] * Calinou burns clarjon1
#1294 [10:59] <Calinou> galuwyr: if you have a 64 bit operating system, install 64 bit java
#1295 [10:59] <clarjon1> hah
#1296 [10:59] <galuwyr> ok wait , i need google translate... and yes i have the right version
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#1298 [11:00] <clarjon1> Calinou: THe system defaults to using 32bit IE and other browsers. you need both 64 and 32bit for the browser plugins to work properly on windows.
#1299 [11:00] <galuwyr> The problem can also lie on the server or is it sure that it is up to me?
#1300 [11:00] <Killer0561> hi
#1301 [11:00] <Calinou> ok
#1302 [11:00] <Killer0561> i have a big problem -.-
#1303 [11:00] <Calinou> hi, ask your question
#1304 [11:00] <clarjon1> Killer0561: Lay it on us, man :)
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#1306 [11:01] <Killer0561> my minecraft crash, when i join a multiplayer server
#1307 [11:01] <Killer0561> *my pc
#1308 [11:01] <galuwyr> Calinou , google says that it is possible that it also lies at the server
#1309 [11:02] <Calinou> Killer0561: any error message? what is your java version? what is your operating system? does single player works fine? are your graphic drivers up to date?
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#1311 [11:02] <Killer0561> mom
#1312 [11:02] <Killer0561> no error message
#1313 [11:04] <galuwyr> Hilft Mojang bei solchen Problemen nicht?
#1314 [11:04] <galuwyr> sry
#1315 [11:04] <galuwyr> Mojang not help with such problems?
#1316 [11:04] <Calinou> mojang is not affiliated with this IRC channel
#1317 [11:05] <Calinou> try http://minecraft.net/support
#1318 [11:05] <galuwyr> kk
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#1321 [11:08] <galuwyr> Calinou , someone wrote this
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#1323 [11:08] <galuwyr> I have yet to see a solution and was told on the irc channel nothing more than the servers are a bit finicky at the moment. I had a friend with premium status as well and I simply got his bin folder, which worked fine
#1324 [11:08] <Killer0561> sry, my inet lost
#1325 [11:09] <Killer0561> i have java 6
#1326 [11:10] <Killer0561> update 29
#1327 [11:10] <galuwyr> i'm frustrated -.-
#1328 [11:11] <galuwyr> 15 € for nothing
#1329 [11:11] <Calinou> what is your graphics card galuwyr ?
#1330 [11:11] <Calinou> don't give up
#1331 [11:14] <galuwyr> sry , where can i see this? im a pc noob...especially as far as the mainboard , the graphics card etc....
#1332 [11:15] <galuwyr> in the forum are also many such threads open, but is in no way a solution
#1333 [11:16] <galuwyr> whatta shit
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#1335 [11:17] <done929> yooo anyone helping today?
#1336 [11:18] <done929> brb
#1337 [11:18] <done929> paid! done929
#1338 [11:18] <done929> !paid done929
#1339 [11:19] <galuwyr> Does anyone else experience this problem?
#1340 [11:19] <done929> ??
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#1342 [11:19] <Autonomy> Hey
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#1344 [11:19] <done929> i need help please
#1345 [11:20] <Sun7zu> !paid Sun7zu
#1346 [11:20] <Autonomy> Anyone got a clue how to fix this? http://pastebin.com/njnBuTqc Debian with latest lwjgl
#1347 [11:20] <done929> can anyone help me with installing minecraft mods please
#1348 [11:21] <galuwyr> can anyone help me with INSTALLING mc? -.-
#1349 [11:23] <Autonomy> galuwyr are you on windows?
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#1351 [11:31] <Autonomy_> Hey
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#1353 [11:31] <Autonomy_> if anybody responded to my last message
#1354 [11:31] <Autonomy_> I missed it
#1355 [11:31] <galuwyr> yes
#1356 [11:31] <galuwyr> i am on win
#1357 [11:31] <galuwyr> dows
#1358 [11:32] <Autonomy_> have you downloaded the exe from minecraft.net?
#1359 [11:32] <galuwyr> yes , sure
#1360 [11:32] <Autonomy_> run the exe and you should be able to play
#1361 [11:32] <stardruid> any know if there are any issues beside possible greifers while running in online mode set to off while the Auth server are faving issues? runnign a while list with it set to public:false
#1362 [11:32] <galuwyr> i want to start it , it says theres a update , i click yes and then it says
#1363 [11:32] <stardruid> er white list
#1364 [11:33] <galuwyr> fatal error occured (4):null
#1365 [11:33] <clarjon1> stardruid: hacked clients coming in with the names of people in your ops.txt and being able to use op commands?
#1366 [11:34] <Autonomy_> If anybody can help with http://pastebin.com/njnBuTqc that'd be awesome
#1367 [11:34] <stardruid> okay so it'll be fine, I'm the only one in th op and all teh server ip and a list of whitelist are behind a double password protected forums
#1368 [11:35] <stardruid> just wish they had a server status indicator on the minecraft website
#1369 [11:36] <galuwyr> As i said , i download Minecraft.exe from minecraft.net type my username and password , then it says New update available and if i click YES i get the message fatal error occured (4):null and if i click NO the load screen goes to the end and then happens nothing
#1370 [11:37] <galuwyr> and i just get the .minecraft folder with bin and lastlogin
#1371 [11:37] <galuwyr> thats it
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#1373 [11:38] <galuwyr> Thanks Mojang.
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#1381 [11:53] <Sk9rm> Hi, I can't get minecraft to work.
#1382 [11:53] <Sk9rm> It says "Java"
#1383 [11:53] <Sk9rm> Then Switching Applet.
#1384 [11:53] <Sk9rm> Then it's just black.
#1385 [11:54] <Sk9rm> I have 64bit Windows 7 Home Premium
#1386 [11:54] <Sk9rm> Firefox or Chrome
#1387 [11:54] <Sk9rm> I also have 32 and 64 bit java.
#1388 [11:54] <Sk9rm> Help?
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#1390 [11:54] <clarjon1> Sk9rm: Have you tried using the downloadable launcher?
#1391 [11:54] <trench0r> hi
#1392 [11:55] <Sk9rm> I don't have Minecraft paid yet.
#1393 [11:55] <Sk9rm> Because I'm weary to buy it if I can't get the free version to load!
#1394 [11:55] <Sk9rm> :)
#1395 [11:55] <trench0r> I have a slight problem with my minecon registration, it would require someone actually at mojang :P
#1396 [11:55] <clarjon1> oh, the free version is still there...
#1397 [11:55] <clarjon1> hm
#1398 [11:55] <trench0r> what do you guys think?
#1399 [11:55] <Sk9rm> So I can't get it to work...
#1400 [11:55] <clarjon1> i'll have to see if that's still working lol
#1401 [11:56] <Sk9rm> It was working like yesterday.
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#1403 [11:56] <clarjon1> I've not used Classic in... forever lol
#1404 [11:56] <clarjon1> Beta is vastly different than Classic now :)
#1405 [11:57] <Sk9rm> Well. I'm not going to buy it unless I get the free to work! :D
#1406 [11:58] <Sk9rm> ommannnnnnum
#1407 [11:58] <Sk9rm> Lolz.
#1408 [11:58] <Sk9rm> Soo boooreed.
#1409 [11:59] <trench0r> ...
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#1412 [12:10] <bildramer> http://i.imgur.com/rPRYV.png
#1413 [12:11] <bildramer> dammit, wrong channel again
#1414 [12:15] <Chris> bildramer, what is that anyway?
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#1422 [12:28] <MeTaLiVo> Hi, Is there an Official Multiplayer Server List for Minecraft Beta?
#1423 [12:29] <Chris> nope
#1424 [12:29] <MeTaLiVo> Okay
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#1426 [12:29] <MeTaLiVo> Are private server safe?
#1427 [12:31] <Chris> yep
#1428 [12:31] <MeTaLiVo> Okayy
#1429 [12:31] <Chris> offline mode or hamachi ones are usually good to avoid though
#1430 [12:32] <MeTaLiVo> Bored To Play Offline :p
#1431 [12:32] <Chris> offline mode's not that, just if you see one, move on xD
#1432 [12:33] <MeTaLiVo> lol
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#1434 [12:33] <MeTaLiVo> i gotta go sorry i'm at school
#1435 [12:34] <Chris> bye bye
#1436 [12:34] <MeTaLiVo> Do You Own A Server
#1437 [12:34] <Chris|ZzZ> yep
#1438 [12:34] <MeTaLiVo> wanna Play Later?
#1439 [12:36] <MeTaLiVo> Well. ... gotta go
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#1441 [12:42] <SFotakos> Good afternoon, can someone help me with an issue ?
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#1444 [12:47] <Unnheulu> My server crashed, and somehow the world got recovered
#1445 [12:47] <Unnheulu> Is the seed recoverable?
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#1447 [12:48] <Unnheulu> Anyone able to help?
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#1449 [12:49] <mudpit> Good afternoon
#1450 [12:49] <mudpit> Can someone help me with a connection issue ?
#1451 [12:49] <ShadowStraeth> I need some help because I'm getting "Too Many Failed Logins" message and i havent attempted to log in at all since last night
#1452 [12:49] <mudpit> Just kindly take a look at my topic http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/735596-connection-issue-ping/.
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#1454 [12:51] <galuwyr> Whatta shit here -.-
#1455 [12:51] <galuwyr> in the mc forum NO ONE knows a solution -.-
#1456 [12:51] <galuwyr> i cant contact mojang
#1457 [12:52] <Thrae> mudpit: I believe Minecraft uses a different ping method that can give more realistic results of "how it feels" than a simple ping
#1458 [12:52] <Thrae> galuwyr: Why do you need to contact Mojang? Can we help?
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#1460 [12:52] <galuwyr> i spent 15€ for nothing...
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#1462 [12:53] <gunther> hey i have a problem can you help?
#1463 [12:53] <galuwyr> You know maybe FATAL ERROR OCCURED (4):NULL
#1464 [12:53] <galuwyr> I asked in 3 forums
#1465 [12:53] <galuwyr> no one knows a solution in any way
#1466 [12:53] <Thrae> galuwyr: Hmm are you on Windows? That can have a few causes, but is usually caused by security software (Anti-Virus, etc.) silently blocking Java.
#1467 [12:53] <gunther> i keep getting this code so i can't log in <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect</center></font></body></html>
#1468 [12:54] <galuwyr> I have Avira AntiVir , how can i deblock it m Thrae?
#1469 [12:54] <gunther> i have the latest java
#1470 [12:54] <gunther> version*
#1471 [12:54] <Thrae> galuwyr: Hmm I use Avira too, let's try this
#1472 [12:54] <mudpit> Thrae, after you help him, if you could take a look into my topic... I would apreciate it.
#1473 [12:54] <gunther> can anybody help me ?
#1474 [12:55] <Thrae> mudpit: As I said before...I believe Minecraft uses a different ping method that can give more realistic results of "how it feels" than a simple ping
#1475 [12:55] <gunther> yes im on windows
#1476 [12:55] <gunther> sorry first time trying this
#1477 [12:56] <galuwyr> gunther , i asked him first , please....
#1478 [12:56] <Thrae> mudpit: I think Minecraft's ping takes into account server resource lag
#1479 [12:56] <mudpit> The thing is thrae
#1480 [12:56] <mudpit> i've been trying every server
#1481 [12:57] <mudpit> and while I get a decent ping on international servers on any other game, every server, be it from US, UK or whatever
#1482 [12:57] <mudpit> have this 100+(than it would be) ping
#1483 [12:57] <Thrae> galuwyr: Follow these instructions to select "Safe Mode with Networking", that's "WITH Networking" -- http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm , see if you get the same error. If you do, go in %APPDATA%\.minecraft and delete everything but "saves" and let Minecraft re-download while you're still in Safe Mode, then try again.
#1484 [12:57] <galuwyr> Thrae , i bought it 2 hours ago , i dont even have a .minecraft folder
#1485 [12:58] <galuwyr> sry , i have one with 'bin' size 67KB...so much...and last login
#1486 [12:58] <Thrae> mudpit: If you get a good ping from server for game A doesn't mean you'll get the same ping for server for game B
#1487 [12:58] <Unnheulu> Does anyone have an answer to my q?
#1488 [12:58] <Thrae> galuwyr: The important thing is to get into Safe Mode with Networking
#1489 [12:59] <Thrae> Unnheulu: What do you mean "is the seed recoverable"?
#1490 [12:59] <Unnheulu> Am I able to get the original seed?
#1491 [12:59] <Unnheulu> (world seed)
#1492 [13:00] <mudpit> That's what u dont get Thrae, I've been testing servers all around, and every US server has 400 ping (where as I get 200 while pinging, or even playing close to that location on a diff game)
#1493 [13:00] <Thrae> Unnheulu: You said the world was recovered, if it's the same world it'll have the same seed. If it's a different world it'll have a different seed. I have no idea how far the corruption spread.
#1494 [13:00] <Unnheulu> It has the same world, but all the biomes around the edge of the original map are just a thin bit
#1495 [13:00] <Unnheulu> And change pretty much straight away
#1496 [13:00] <Thrae> mudpit: What you don't seem to get yourself is that there are different ways to "ping" a server in network code that can have different response times in ms
#1497 [13:00] <Unnheulu> Alot of the area has (for instance) different grass colours to before
#1498 [13:01] <mudpit> The ingame feel is like 4 seconds man, does not suit my specifications, nor the server, I'm just desperate
#1499 [13:02] <mudpit> 2*
#1500 [13:02] <galuwyr> Thrae: What brings about the safe mode to get? I do not always play on the safe mode, but also on the normal ... Is this the ONLY and ONE solution to remove this problem?
#1501 [13:02] <Thrae> Unnheulu: There's really not any way to 100% get something from a corrupt world, the very definition of corruption being data was messed up in ways we don't really know about.
#1502 [13:03] <Unnheulu> Yeah, I guess
#1503 [13:03] <Thrae> mudpit: Yeah since I've heard from others in Brazil having similar problems you're having with lag but not the same problems with local servers hosted in Brazil I'm inclined to think it's a Brazilian problem, or a problem with connecting to servers via something like satellite.
#1504 [13:03] <Unnheulu> I don't really know how it got the original world data and stuff back in the first place
#1505 [13:04] <Unnheulu> I renamed the world to worldold, restarted the server and rejoined - everything was there
#1506 [13:04] <Thrae> galuwyr: It's just a method of troubleshooting. If it gets past the "Null" error and gives you a video card error then we know there's something your computer loads in normal mode that's blocking Java and we can troubleshoot some more from there.
#1507 [13:05] <mudpit> I don't know how to fix this issue, probably some route that is damaged or something....
#1508 [13:05] <galuwyr> And if im in safe mode , what should i do?
#1509 [13:05] <mudpit> Have it been reported yet ?
#1510 [13:05] <Thrae> galuwyr: You want specifically "Safe Mode with Networking" and just try Minecraft and see what error it gives you.
#1511 [13:06] <Thrae> mudpit: http://goo.gl/GZWrJ
#1512 [13:07] <galuwyr> Thrae
#1513 [13:07] <galuwyr> And how can i get out of the Safe Mode?
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#1515 [13:09] <galuwyr> I see now , but the site you posted says if you restart the computer there arent colors?
#1516 [13:09] <galuwyr> and still black/white
#1517 [13:09] <Thrae> galuwyr: When you boot most any computer it'll go through POST diagnostics which will be in black & white. This occurs before the Windows logo appears.
#1518 [13:10] <galuwyr> ok...ill try it ...so safe mode WITH NETWORKING?
#1519 [13:11] <galuwyr> or just safe mode
#1520 [13:12] <Thrae> galuwyr: Safe Mode With Networking.
#1521 [13:12] <galuwyr> ok , lets try
#1522 [13:12] <galuwyr> see you
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#1524 [13:14] <mudpit> Thrae, just made a topic on the website u gave me.
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#1526 [13:15] <mudpit> Thanks for the help man, but if you could still take a look at my topic I would really apreciate it
#1527 [13:15] <mudpit> There are some information there I can not provide with words... http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/735596-connection-issue-ping/
#1528 [13:15] <ida> någon som pratar svenska??
#1529 [13:16] * Wahrheit goes to play some BF3
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#1531 [13:20] <mib_13qrlc> Hey, who can help me i dont become a email
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#1533 [13:21] <galuwyr> Calinou
#1534 [13:21] <galuwyr> Calinou , afk? D:
#1535 [13:21] <Calinou> I'm here
#1536 [13:21] <galuwyr> ok i found this
#1537 [13:22] <galuwyr> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 24.10.11 19:18 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.6.0_29, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Micros
#1538 [13:22] <Calinou> if one is afk, ping him by saying his name :P
#1539 [13:22] <Calinou> :o use pastebin
#1540 [13:22] <Calinou> ?? pastebin
#1541 [13:22] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1542 [13:22] <galuwyr> hm?
#1543 [13:23] <galuwyr> im on pastebin but what should i do?
#1544 [13:23] <mudpit> Calinou http://pastebin.com/G1y4tv9i
#1545 [13:24] <Calinou> ok :)
#1546 [13:24] <galuwyr> Ah , i found it out :D !
#1547 [13:24] <Calinou> btw, I used to be a minecraft forum moderator :P
#1548 [13:24] <galuwyr> Can i post it or do you read mudpits one?
#1549 [13:25] <Calinou> it's Misa Pack 64x, not 56x. ;)
#1550 [13:25] <Calinou> reading mudpit's thread
#1551 [13:25] <galuwyr> ok tell me if i can post
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#1553 [13:28] <Calinou> make a thread on the forums about your problem, galuwyr, I'm going to go soon
#1554 [13:28] <galuwyr> wait pls!!
#1555 [13:28] <galuwyr> can i ask one question?
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#1557 [13:28] <Thrae> galuwyr: OK, you got that error in Safe Mode with Networking?
#1558 [13:29] <galuwyr> right
#1559 [13:29] <galuwyr> http://pastebin.com/fidqjzL9
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#1561 [13:29] <Calinou> good boy AuBot :P
#1562 [13:29] <mudpit> lol
#1563 [13:29] <Thrae> galuwyr: Yes, I told you Safe Mode with Networking gives video card driver errors. If you got this error it means it was able to successfully download Minecraft and connect to Minecraft.net, so we got past the Fatal Error 4 you were getting before.
#1564 [13:30] <mudpit> Any thoughts Calinou ?
#1565 [13:30] <galuwyr> Can this be graphic card?
#1566 [13:30] <galuwyr> nvidia geforce 9800 gtx 9800 gtx+
#1567 [13:30] <galuwyr> or is it somethin else?
#1568 [13:31] <Thrae> galuwyr: There's nothing wrong with your graphics card or drivers.
#1569 [13:31] <galuwyr> ? aubot said it
#1570 [13:31] <galuwyr> <AuBot> galuwyr: It looks like your error is a graphics card driver error.
#1571 [13:31] <Thrae> galuwyr: Safe Mode with Networking will ALWAYS give that error with Minecraft. The fact that you're getting that error INSTEAD of the Fatal Error (4) means it's a program on your computer causing the Fatal Error (4).
#1572 [13:31] <Thrae> galuwyr: AuBot is a computer, a bot.
#1573 [13:32] <galuwyr> So , sry i asked one more time......I have a program on my PC who make , sry for bad english , this fatal error?
#1574 [13:32] <Thrae> galuwyr: Yes, it's a program on your computer that's causing the Fatal Error.
#1575 [13:33] <galuwyr> And how can i find out which programm it is?
#1576 [13:33] <Thrae> galuwyr: Reboot then follow these instructions -- http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310560 to diagnose using MSCONFIG (feel free to switch it to your native language)
#1577 [13:34] <galuwyr> Reboot = restart computer? :( sry , as i said , bad english
#1578 [13:34] <Thrae> restart computer is a reboot, yes
#1579 [13:35] <mudpit> Thrae, any thoughts on how I can fix this ? =/
#1580 [13:35] <Thrae> mudpit: Contact your ISP?
#1581 [13:36] <mudpit> The thing is how can I point a problem to them if I don't know where it is
#1582 [13:36] <mudpit> If I tracert the minecraft.net website for instance there is no problem, nor when I tracert a server.
#1583 [13:37] <galuwyr> Thrae , but it seems it is so much on the page ..... i have to do everything who is on the site?
#1584 [13:37] <mudpit> I know I'm being repetitive, just don't quite get how to fix it
#1585 [13:38] <Calinou> mudpit: some important thing
#1586 [13:38] <Calinou> first, network bandwidth != latency
#1587 [13:38] <Thrae> mudpit: http://serverfault.com/questions/14376/ping-alternative-for-tcp
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#1589 [13:38] <galuwyr> thrae , i saw this O:
#1590 [13:38] <galuwyr> Diese Methoden sind für fortgeschrittene Benutzer bestimmt.
#1591 [13:38] <Calinou> secondly, minecraft has a very, VERY bad network protocol (notchcode and TCP)
#1592 [13:38] <galuwyr> sry it was german
#1593 [13:39] <Calinou> 200-400 ms is playble on minecraft, rather hard to get
#1594 [13:39] <Saegrimr> Is there any way for me to change the email address on my account?
#1595 [13:39] <galuwyr> i mean this
#1596 [13:39] <galuwyr> These methods are intended for advanced users.
#1597 [13:39] <Calinou> on other games you'd get 60-160 ms...
#1598 [13:39] <galuwyr> But im not advanced? Later , ill crash my pc
#1599 [13:39] <Thrae> galuwyr: You can crash the PC by uninstalling software
#1600 [13:39] <Thrae> Saegrimr: No
#1601 [13:40] <mudpit> Exactly Calinou, I would get 60-160ms, but why is it so much higher :X
#1602 [13:40] <Thrae> mudpit: "Many ISP has different shapers for ICMP and TCP traffic, so 'ping' will show 10ms latency, but TCP connections will experience 1000ms+."
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#1604 [13:40] <Saegrimr> No way at all? I noticed he took down the support mail because i'd planned to email about that.
#1605 [13:40] <Saegrimr> Its pretty dumb, honestly.
#1606 [13:40] <Thrae> Saegrimr: http://www.minecraft.net/support
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#1608 [13:41] <Saegrimr> Where is that on the page
#1609 [13:41] <Saegrimr> Because I couldn't find that
#1610 [13:41] <Calinou> replied, mudpit
#1611 [13:41] <Calinou> horrible net protocol
#1612 [13:41] <Calinou> NotchCode
#1613 [13:41] <Thrae> Saegrimr: Account -> Email -> "I want to change the email address I am using for my account"
#1614 [13:42] <Saegrimr> Yes I saw that, but how do you get to that support page as I cant find a link to it from the front.
#1615 [13:42] <mudpit> Getting on too tecnical for me Thrae :( I read the site just didn't quite follow.
#1616 [13:42] <mudpit> ;)
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#1618 [13:42] <mudpit> Thanks Calinou will look it now.
#1619 [13:42] <Calinou> "This forum has moderatos/admins that check these posts ?"
#1620 [13:43] <Calinou> if a post offends the rules, feel free to report by clicking on the /!\ button and add a reason
#1621 [13:43] <Calinou> flaming/trolling/spamming/non-contributive posts, or what ever
#1622 [13:43] <Calinou> I'm not a moderator anymore, don't ask me. :P
#1623 [13:43] <Thrae> Saegrimr: Linked in Game->About The Game and Game->How To Play
#1624 [13:43] <Saegrimr> Ah, thanks. Thats a strange place to put it.
#1625 [13:43] <mudpit> Didn't mean to be offensive there tho, think I will change it
#1626 [13:43] <mudpit> Was just asking, as I read "Community Suport Forum"
#1627 [13:43] <mudpit> Got me confused
#1628 [13:44] <Calinou> I get the same pings too. :)
#1629 [13:44] <Calinou> I'm VERY used to lagging
#1630 [13:44] <Calinou> I can play with 5 second lag fluently. :P
#1631 [13:44] * Thrae doesn't lag playing on local MC servers
#1631 [13:44] <Calinou> never stand in a block you just mined these cases, you may suffocate/get pushed
#1632 [13:44] <Calinou> local pings are horrible - on AssaultCube I have 7 (!) ping on my local server
#1633 [13:44] <Calinou> on minecraft: 55. :(
#1634 [13:45] <Thrae> Calinou: ping != latency
#1635 [13:45] <mudpit> Well, I think that's as solved I will get then =)
#1636 [13:45] <Calinou> ...maybe...
#1637 [13:45] <Calinou> "ping" is a common term for latency
#1638 [13:46] <Thrae> Calinou: Read the link I gave to mudpit
#1639 [13:46] <galuwyr> I try to contact support with windows . there is also that it is possible to chat about, but I do not find the page ... someone knows more than me?
#1640 [13:46] <Thrae> Some servers like to use ICMP for pings which give you a false idea of actually how the game will feel to you due to how ICMP and TCP (and UDP) are handled differently
#1641 [13:47] * Calinou is reading support forum
#1641 [13:47] <Thrae> galuwyr: You have to pay for support direct from Microsoft, otherwise contact your computer manufacturer
#1642 [13:47] <Calinou> if you guys don't get answers here immediatly, post a new thread on the forum
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#1644 [13:47] <galuwyr> ....im lost.
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#1646 [13:48] <Damein> Could i get some help with bad video card driver?
#1647 [13:48] <Thrae> Damein: Using Windows, Mac, or Linux?
#1648 [13:48] <Damein> http://mibpaste.com/EiLj7Y
#1649 [13:48] <mudpit> Well, Thanks Thrae and Calinou.
#1650 [13:48] <Thrae> ??> Damein win/dxdiag
#1651 [13:49] <Calinou> np :)
#1652 [13:49] <VoxelHead> Damein: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1653 [13:49] <VoxelHead> Damein: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#1655 [13:49] <mudpit> I will stay with this ping, and pray for it to get lower somehow :)
#1656 [13:49] <Damein> windows xp
#1657 [13:49] <mudpit> Fps got me addicted to 80- ping :X
#1658 [13:49] <mudpit> Cya
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#1660 [13:49] <Damein> shoot gotta go be on around 6 with this problem
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#1663 [13:51] <obi_wan> Hello
#1664 [13:52] <galuwyr> Calino , Thrae?
#1665 [13:52] <galuwyr> Calinou*
#1666 [13:52] <Thrae> obi_wan: Can we help you?
#1667 [13:52] <obi_wan> Can i get some help installing the game? i have no idea how :S
#1668 [13:52] <galuwyr> I found this link:
#1669 [13:52] <JonesyBoppa> Thrae: can you help me ?
#1670 [13:52] <galuwyr> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/738397-fatal-error-occured-4null/
#1671 [13:52] <Calinou> hello obi_wan
#1672 [13:52] <JonesyBoppa> or Calinou
#1673 [13:53] <galuwyr> But if i rightclick my antivir , i just can start it , start as
#1674 [13:53] <Calinou> first, make sure you have Java 6 installed
#1675 [13:53] <Calinou> ?? java/version
#1676 [13:53] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1677 [13:53] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1678 [13:53] <JonesyBoppa> The server wont acknowledge my server
#1679 [13:53] <galuwyr> but there arent options like realtime or web protection
#1680 [13:53] <JonesyBoppa> wont acknowledge my server ip **
#1681 [13:54] <obi_wan> Ive bought the game, clicked download, but then i go to login and says "not registered"
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#1683 [13:54] <Thrae> obi_wan: OK, what's your Minecraft username?
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#1685 [13:54] <Calinou> galuwyr: do you have a anti-virus installed? firewall installed?
#1686 [13:54] <obi_wan> Arcane321
#1687 [13:54] <Calinou> try to disable them temporarily then launch Minecraft
#1688 [13:54] <Calinou> if it works... then re-eneable them, add a exception for Minecraft
#1689 [13:55] <Damein> Im sorry, i am not playing downloaded im playing it in browser and im getting bad video card driver do you want me to poste it on pastebin and give you the link
#1690 [13:55] <Thrae> Calinou: I already had galuwyr go into Safe Mode and the Fatal Error (4) didn't occur there, so he needs to figure out what program is conflicting with Minecraft
#1691 [13:55] <Thrae> Damein: Yes, I want your DxDiag information
#1692 [13:55] <galuwyr> Guys
#1693 [13:55] <galuwyr> Wait!
#1694 [13:55] <galuwyr> i found this
#1695 [13:55] <Thrae> !paid Arcane321
#1696 [13:56] <Damein> kk thank you thrae hold on and also do you remember me ?\
#1697 [13:56] <obi_wan> yes i have, so why does it not acknowledge my account?
#1698 [13:56] <galuwyr> .
#1699 [13:56] <Thrae> obi_wan: OK, can you play it in www.minecraft.net/play ?
#1700 [13:56] <Thrae> Damein: Yes, I remember your nick.
#1701 [13:56] <Damein> :)
#1702 [13:56] <Calinou> obi_wan: are you sure you correctly wrote the account name and password? try rewriting both.
#1703 [13:56] <Damein> http://mibpaste.com/Ka3vm4
#1704 [13:56] <obi_wan> can i play it w/o the browser? (its prefferable)
#1705 [13:56] <Damein> that is the link thrae
#1706 [13:56] <Thrae> ??> Damein win/dxdiag
#1707 [13:56] <VoxelHead> Damein: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1708 [13:56] <VoxelHead> Damein: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1709 [13:57] <Thrae> Damein: You need to follow VoxelHead's instructions to give us your DxDiag information.
#1710 [13:57] <obi_wan> and i already have myself logged in to the site, so why does it need my info again?
#1711 [13:57] <Damein> dang its restricted im trying to get on at school
#1712 [13:59] <galuwyr> wtf
#1713 [13:59] <galuwyr> wtf
#1714 [13:59] <galuwyr> wtf
#1715 [13:59] <Thrae> Damein: You don't have Administrative access to the computer?
#1716 [13:59] <galuwyr> suddenly it works
#1717 [13:59] <galuwyr> ?=
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#1719 [13:59] <Thrae> galuwyr: Did you disable Avira or something?
#1720 [14:00] <galuwyr> no ....wait , need new batterie
#1721 [14:01] <galuwyr> no , but
#1722 [14:01] <galuwyr> after the reboost , it was the first try to start
#1723 [14:01] <galuwyr> and it works
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#1725 [14:04] <galuwyr> -.-
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#1727 [14:04] <galuwyr> now , i get bad lags
#1728 [14:06] <Calinou> lag != low fps
#1729 [14:06] <Calinou> :)
#1730 [14:06] <galuwyr> and how to fix this?
#1731 [14:06] <Calinou> make sure, if you have a laptop, to plug it
#1732 [14:06] <Calinou> try to change graphic settings - change from Fancy to Fast, Far from normal/short/tiny
#1733 [14:06] <Calinou> if you are using a netbook (small laptops), disable Advanced OpenGL
#1734 [14:06] <Calinou> else, enable it
#1735 [14:07] <Calinou> set the "Performance" to Max FPS, also.
#1736 [14:07] <Calinou> brightness and FOV doesn't change performance
#1737 [14:07] <Calinou> choose at your taste ;)
#1738 [14:08] <galuwyr> i use a pc
#1739 [14:08] <galuwyr> so i can ablew
#1740 [14:08] <galuwyr> advanced opengl
#1741 [14:09] <obi_wan> can i get some real help? i want to play the game without the web browser (full screen)
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#1743 [14:09] <madalynn> k
#1744 [14:09] <Thrae> obi_wan: Re-download the launcher
#1745 [14:10] <obi_wan> what page is the launcher on?
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#1747 [14:10] <Thrae> obi_wan: http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1748 [14:11] <madalynn> minecraft.net connot connect help
#1749 [14:11] <Jammy> [19:10:51] * Now talking in #minecraft
#1750 [14:11] <Jammy> [19:10:51] * Topic is 'Auth servers are having some issues, whining will result in a ban.
#1751 [14:12] <obi_wan> ok, then it asks me to sign in, and it wont recognize my account
#1752 [14:12] <Jammy> theres your help... it's broken :]
#1753 [14:12] <Thrae> obi_wan: Hmm, I'd just wait for the auth servers to be sorted out.
#1754 [14:12] <obi_wan> how long will that take?
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#1756 [14:12] <Thrae> No idea -- we're just volunteers.
#1757 [14:12] <Jammy> 0 to infinity :]
#1758 [14:12] <EpicPotato> r
#1759 [14:12] <Calinou> you'll have to wait a bit, patience is a virtue
#1760 [14:13] <Calinou> we cannot do anything, I'm sorry obi_wan
#1761 [14:13] <obi_wan> >.> kinda wanted to play the game i just bought, oh well
#1762 [14:13] <Jammy> hi cali
#1763 [14:13] <Calinou> hi?
#1764 [14:13] <EpicPotato> me too
#1765 [14:13] <Thrae> obi_wan: You can play it, just not fullscreen
#1766 [14:13] <galuwyr> Calinou
#1767 [14:14] <galuwyr> im sure , you know world of warcraft, right?
#1768 [14:14] <obi_wan> yeah, the frame rate is chugging quite alot, ive turned down everything, any other tips on how to get it to run properly on browser?
#1769 [14:15] <Thrae> obi_wan: Could be your system -- how much total RAM do you have?
#1770 [14:15] <EpicPotato> .
#1771 [14:16] <obi_wan> 401GB
#1772 [14:16] <Jammy> lol
#1773 [14:17] <Jammy> i wish i had that much RAM
#1774 [14:17] <obi_wan> mm, got additional memory cards
#1775 [14:17] <Jammy> whats the 50 8gb sticks? :D
#1776 [14:17] <Jammy> can you get 16gb sticks? :o
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#1778 [14:18] <galuwyr> Calinoi or Thrae
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#1780 [14:18] <galuwyr> in Wow , theres a liveserver , and in minecraft only privat server?
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#1783 [14:20] <Jammy> ouch 1 16gb stick is couple hundred $/
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#1785 [14:21] <Thrae> galuwyr: That's because Blizzard only allows you play WoW on Blizzard servers.
#1786 [14:21] <Calinou> I don't play WoW, HATE it galuwyr
#1787 [14:21] <galuwyr> Yes but
#1788 [14:21] <galuwyr> ok... understand^^
#1789 [14:21] <Calinou> I mostly play (free) FPSes (warsow/quakelive/sauerbraten/TF2/assaultcube/urbanterror/redeclipse/xonotic)
#1790 [14:21] <galuwyr> hm ok
#1791 [14:21] <Thrae> galuwyr: Mojang owns Minecraft, they do not own or run any Minecraft servers
#1792 [14:22] <galuwyr> And what for a Texturepack do you use?
#1793 [14:22] <Calinou> Misa's 64x
#1794 [14:22] <Calinou> :)
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#1808 [14:52] <Syzgyn> I'm hoping someone can help me out with this strange bug. First off, the launcher takes far longer than it should to load, sometimes upwards of a minute.
#1809 [14:53] <Syzgyn> Then, when I login, I get a black box for a few seconds, then a crash report saying something about a DIB section. Full crash report is here: http://pastebin.com/1regUwz4
#1810 [14:53] <Syzgyn> I've already reinstalled Java and wiped the .minecraft folder more times than I can count
#1811 [14:53] <Syzgyn> As well as made sure my video drivers are up to date.
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#1813 [14:58] <Thrae> Syzgyn: Hmm, try these instructions -- http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
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#1815 [15:06] <Syzgyn> Thrae: No luck, got the same crash report.
#1816 [15:06] <Thrae> ??> Syzgyn win/dxdiag
#1817 [15:06] <VoxelHead> Syzgyn: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1818 [15:06] <VoxelHead> Syzgyn: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1819 [15:08] <Syzgyn> http://pastebin.com/ZaDi34jp
#1820 [15:09] <Thrae> Syzgyn: Hmm seems Windows is pretty out-of-date. Only Service Pack 2 when Service Pack 3 was released about 7 years ago. http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
#1821 [15:10] <Syzgyn> Thats what I get for having a cracked version :P
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#1823 [15:18] <meneken17> hi guys
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#1826 [15:22] <frogmella> what does 9t mean when on multipplayer it says connection refused?
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#1829 [15:36] <obi_wan> is anyone here
#1830 [15:37] <obi_wan> hi
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#1833 [15:38] <obi_wan> is anyone here
#1834 [15:38] <obi_wan> hello
#1835 [15:40] <libraryaddict> dammit
#1836 [15:40] <libraryaddict> I wanted to echo him
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#1840 [15:50] <Yellowchopsticks> my water flow seems to be destroying my mushrooms instead of harvesting them
#1841 [15:51] <Yellowchopsticks> any ideas?
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#1844 [15:54] <mib_wtvz8i> my game when loade say java runtime is corupted or not installed
#1845 [15:54] <mib_wtvz8i> can you help me
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#1847 [15:56] <Tigerstar186> Hello, is anyone available to help me?
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#1850 [15:58] <marynis> good evening
#1851 [15:58] <marynis> I have a little problem
#1852 [15:58] <Tigerstar186> Which is?
#1853 [15:59] <marynis> I did cash transfer by bank
#1854 [15:59] <marynis> and i don't have the premium code
#1855 [15:59] <marynis> why?
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#1857 [15:59] <Tigerstar186> Can't help you there, I was hoping you were having the same problem as I was. Most of the help is busy at the moment, you see.
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#1860 [16:03] <dect11> hello hi ive been here before and i have to say there is a new problem when i login it does what it should do then it goes to a black screen then it freezes my computer so i have to shut it off manulally
#1861 [16:06] <dect11> any one have a link to the older version minecraft is ny life really so pls help!!!!
#1862 [16:07] <dect11> er... mylife
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#1870 [16:22] <Balee> :/
#1871 [16:23] <Balee> I guess Operation Twitter wasn't succesful.
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#1875 [16:27] <Balee> Nothing much left but to check if the bugs still persist in the final version.
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#1877 [16:28] <Yellowchopsticks> do huge mushrooms always grow to the same height?
#1878 [16:29] <Balee> It seems like it, yes.
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#1890 [16:54] <PcJamesy> failed too many logins
#1891 [16:54] <PcJamesy> urg
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#1893 [16:56] <PcJamesy> GreyVulpine is there i time amount i'm locked out of the game now because of this
#1894 [16:56] <Crii1> Hello.
#1895 [16:57] <Crii1> Can someone read this?
#1896 [16:57] <PcJamesy> hey Crii1
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#1898 [16:57] <Crii1> Well, i downloadet minecraft a few minutes ago, but i can not open it, because of Java, i tryed to remove and reinstall java - it failed. Could you help me?
#1899 [16:58] <Crii1> I tryed the Autoinstaller as well, but it failed to :(
#1900 [16:58] <JP> hello there. Newbie here i'm afraid, any1 for some simple-worded advice about a "fatal error (4) applet" problem?... with the in-browser classic singlepllayer? Looked everywhere
#1901 [16:58] <PcJamesy> did you download minecraft.exe
#1902 [16:58] <Crii1> I did, on minecraft.net
#1903 [16:59] <PcJamesy> Crii1 do you get the login page when you open it
#1904 [16:59] <Crii1> Is says: Java Runtime Environnment is not existing.
#1905 [16:59] <Crii1> Wait, i'll try
#1906 [17:00] <JP> (bump) any1 for some simple-worded advice about a "fatal error (4) applet" problem?... with the in-browser classic singlepllayer? Looked everywhere
#1907 [17:00] <Crii1> I'm trying :)
#1908 [17:00] <Crii1> Ok, look
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#1910 [17:01] <PcJamesy> JP could you try reinstalling/updating java
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#1912 [17:01] <Crii1> I'm in Minecraft-net right, kicked on this "singleplayer" wich opend: minecraft/classic/play -> There is find Java o.o I could play
#1913 [17:01] <JP> just updated to the max most recent etc, would re-installing do anything?
#1914 [17:01] <PcJamesy> no, not if you've tryed
#1915 [17:02] <PcJamesy> jp is your operating system 64bit
#1916 [17:02] <JP> (where would it tell me?)
#1917 [17:02] <Crii1> (<- has 64 too)
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#1920 [17:03] <JP> yeh it says 64bit on control panel...now what?
#1921 [17:03] <Wade> Hey all, I need some help figuring this out: I am trying to run MC on my macbook, I have the latest version of java, Im running 10.5.8, and when the world loads all i get is a black screen. Is this an OpenGL problem or what?
#1922 [17:04] <PcJamesy> JP Crii1 yu could try to install 64bit java http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#1923 [17:04] <PcJamesy> the second option under windows
#1924 [17:04] <Crii1> ok
#1925 [17:04] <Crii1> Hopefully, there will be no error like last time (days ago)
#1926 [17:04] <JP> ok, installing 64 bit...report back in a sec
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#1929 [17:05] <Person5323> hey everyone
#1930 [17:05] <PcJamesy> hey Person5323
#1931 [17:05] <Crii1> hi
#1932 [17:05] <Wade> oh hai
#1933 [17:06] <Person5323> I am having trouble accessing minecraft.net it is only on my laptop my desktop can get on without a problem. Can someone help?
#1934 [17:06] <JP> 64 bit Java installed, it closed out the window when it (i presume) finished....now what?
#1935 [17:07] <PcJamesy> JP dose the game play now
#1936 [17:07] <JP> ...nothing.
#1937 [17:08] <PcJamesy> JP are you useing windows7
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#1939 [17:09] <JP> same error message : unable to get input stream for ..applet..
#1940 [17:09] <PcJamesy> JP are you us?ing windows7
#1941 [17:09] <JP> (windows 7, on Chrome)
#1942 [17:09] <PcJamesy> ok
#1943 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> JP - What security software do you run?
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#1945 [17:10] <JP> um...nothing as far as im aware, think all my free-trials ran out
#1946 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Do you have any still running? AVG? mcafee?
#1947 [17:10] <JP> macafree standard windows firewall
#1948 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> mcafee's been known to stop minecraft from downloading..
#1949 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> Would you be willing to either disable it entirely or uninstall it?
#1950 [17:11] <Crii1> Java downloadet -> Installing (on Win7 Ulti, 64Bit)
#1951 [17:12] <JP> I'm on control panel, i can turn it off it seems....one moment
#1952 [17:12] <Crii1> Failed on Windows: Titel: Windows Installer | Message: This Action is für installed Products only. <-- ??
#1953 [17:12] <Crii1> And befor that it says, there is still a Java on my Computer.
#1954 [17:13] <Sardonicus> Crii, you german?
#1955 [17:13] <Crii1> Yes.
#1956 [17:13] <Sardonicus> Yeah your english sounds like that.
#1957 [17:13] <Crii1> ._.
#1958 [17:14] <Crii1> But that doesn't solve my Problem xD
#1959 [17:14] <Sardonicus> I'm not here for solving problems.
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#1961 [17:14] <Crii1> :(
#1962 [17:14] <Sardonicus> If I knew I'd help you though.
#1963 [17:14] <Crii1> ^^
#1964 [17:14] <JP> damnit...Firewall turned off, still no change :( i dont want to buy the full game for this to happen!
#1965 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> Crii1 - We have no idea what your problem is..
#1966 [17:15] <Crii1> ._.
#1967 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> JP - Could you uninstall mcafee?
#1968 [17:15] <Crii1> Well, thanks for trying :) See you later
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#1970 [17:19] <JP> nope, nothing....I dont HAVE mcafee on there (searched) turned off all firewalls (back on now) and same damn problem
#1971 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> What is the full error you're getting?
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#1973 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> unable to get input stream for lwjgl?
#1974 [17:22] <JP> yep
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#1976 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows?
#1977 [17:23] <Coolkid> Hi
#1978 [17:23] <JP> windows 7, same error when using IE and Chrome
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#1980 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#1981 [17:24] <JP> yeh, got a folder up saying "roaming"
#1982 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Look for a folder named .minecraft -- go inside and delete everything but saves. Then try minecraft again
#1983 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Go into roaming
#1984 [17:24] <JP> into minecraft (u know im trying to play the free, classic on the .net site right?)
#1985 [17:25] <JP> .minecraft folder is empty
#1986 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Er, bleh
#1987 [17:25] <JP> lol
#1988 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Alright then..
#1989 [17:25] <JP> I dont want to spend the money on the full game only to find this same problem, u get me?
#1990 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I understand.
#1991 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Could you go back to your start menu, in the search bar, type in %temp%
#1992 [17:26] <JP> yeh...
#1993 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Look for either a folder named "www.minecraft.net" or "minecraft.net" and delete it. Then relaunch your IE browser and go back to minecraft
#1994 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> If this doesn't work, I'm pretty sure some sort of security software on your computer is blocking minecraft from downloading.
#1995 [17:29] <JP> NNNoooooooooo....failed again. and such a tease: it was loading up like it was working.
#1996 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> What other AV software do you have installed on that machine?
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#1998 [17:31] <JP> I got nothing, just the standard system firewalls. no independant software
#1999 [17:33] <JP> *exasperated*
#2000 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Could you try uninstalling and reinstalling java?
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#2002 [17:36] <JP> just tired now lol Java's as updated as it can be...
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#2004 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Did you uninstall all previous versions of java before doing so?
#2005 [17:37] <JP> ......no
#2006 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Could you do that now? It's the only way to be sure you're getting a fresh install of java, without any remnants of any prior versions
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#2008 [17:39] <JP> doing it
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#2011 [17:45] <JP> GrayVulpine, i'm back after a quick restart...which java shud i install?
#2012 [17:46] <JP> @grayVulpine ?
#2013 [17:46] <TheNytangel> Funny
#2014 [17:47] <TheNytangel> One of Notepad++'s options for saving is "YAML Ain't Markup Languag (*.yml)
#2015 [17:47] <TheNytangel> "
#2016 [17:47] <TheNytangel> Language*
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#2018 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> JP - Java 6
#2019 [17:51] <JP> yeh, "java 6 update 29" downloaded. all AV uninstalled. IE and Chrome....god damn nothing...
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#2022 [17:56] <JP> eurgh....i really want this game D:
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#2024 [17:59] <JP> Cheers for ur help tho Vulpine, good effort... :(
#2025 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, could you load up the applet at minecraft.net, look for a white coffee cup icon in the task bar
#2026 [17:59] <JP> que?
#2027 [17:59] <JP> what task bar? (im in chrome)
#2028 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Next to your clock
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#2030 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> That's the java icon, load up the console from it.
#2031 [18:00] <JP> yeh got it, the java icon
#2032 [18:00] <JP> console up
#2033 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Copy everything from it when you get the error. Paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
#2034 [18:02] <JP> pasted...no unique url tho :/
#2035 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Submit it.
#2036 [18:03] <JP> http://pastebin.com/yUpUDvb8
#2037 [18:03] <JP> there u go
#2038 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Is your internet connection spotty at all?
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#2040 [18:05] <JP> no man, always pretty good
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#2042 [18:07] <JP> so what does that techno stuff translate as? (on pastebin)
#2043 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Basically, the applet is unable to download the lwjgl file needed for minecraft.
#2044 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> I think I'm out of ideas here. It's usually a security software issue, on few occasions, it's java screwing up. On rare occasions, it's some sort of connection problem.
#2045 [18:08] <JP> so, chances of having the same problems with the downloaded game?
#2046 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Try it out, there's a demo at:
#2047 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#2048 [18:08] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#2049 [18:08] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#2050 [18:10] <JP> wow, it's working....so would the bought thing work?
#2051 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2052 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Uses basically the same server to download files.
#2053 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> (in all respects, the demo is the full game, albeit an older version and time-locked)
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#2057 [18:16] <JP> wonderful! my friend, i really appreciate ur efforts.. tonight. cheers
#2058 [18:17] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#2058 [18:17] <FluffySalamander> I can't seem to download minecraft...
#2059 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - What's the error you get?
#2060 [18:18] <FluffySalamander> i bought it, then it gives me the shortcut, but it won't connect to minecraft.net, and i can't play offline because apparantly, it's not downloaded.
#2061 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> The error you're getting is "can't connect to minecraft.net"?
#2062 [18:18] <FluffySalamander> yes.
#2063 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Could you first try going to https://login.minecraft.net -- you should see "bad login"
#2064 [18:19] <FluffySalamander> it does, yes.
#2065 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Alright, your computer can see the login server.. what operating system are you on?
#2066 [18:19] <FluffySalamander> Windows XP
#2067 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Is your system's time and date correct? Does your windows username happen to contain a (!) mark in it?
#2068 [18:20] <FluffySalamander> my username does not, and yes the date and time are correct.
#2069 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Your windows username does not?
#2070 [18:21] <FluffySalamander> what do you mean by my windows username?
#2071 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> The username you use to log into your computer.
#2072 [18:21] <FluffySalamander> no, it does not.
#2073 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Check your security software or firewall then. It may be blocking minecraft from communicating with the login server.
#2074 [18:22] <FluffySalamander> that might work. hang on just a sec please.
#2075 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Either ensure that java or minecraft is in the exceptions list, or try turning it off temporarily to test
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#2077 [18:27] <FluffySalamander> I don't know how to turn java off in the firewall. minecraft is allowed, but i can't find jaa to unblock it.
#2078 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> See if you can add it yourself. Java should be in your c:\program files\ folder
#2079 [18:30] <FluffySalamander> okay. brb again...
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#2082 [18:39] <FluffySalamander> okay, so i found the java folder, but i don't know which file to unblock. i unblocked all applications, but it's still not working.
#2083 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Could you launch the in-browser client at minecraft.net?
#2084 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> If you encounter any errors, please pull up the java console using the little white coffee cup icon near your system clock
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#2089 [18:52] <bigman> I bought minecraft in alpha testing. Recently, when i try to log in i am unsuccessful and when i play offline a message appears in the top-left corner of the screen. It says that i have an unlicensed copy. Can anyone help me?
#2090 [18:55] <GreyVulpine> bigman - What error do you get upon trying to log in?
#2091 [18:56] <FluffySalamander> I can't seem to download minecraft... i bought it, then it gives me the shortcut, but it won't connect to minecraft.net, and i can't play offline because apparantly, it's not downloaded.
#2092 [18:56] <FluffySalamander> blah, sry.
#2093 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - The launcher is just that, the launcher. It doesn't actually download any minecraft files until you log in successfully once.
#2094 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Now, you're sure your security software is not blocking minecraft or java from communicating with the outside?
#2095 [18:57] <FluffySalamander> yes. i've turned off the firewall.
#2096 [18:58] <GreyVulpine> Could you launch the in-browser client at minecraft.net?
#2097 [18:58] <FluffySalamander> where do i find it?
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#2099 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/play
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#2101 [18:59] <mib_itzwnt> I need help with something.
#2102 [18:59] <mib_itzwnt> My client keeps saying it ran out of memory and making me restart it. How do I fix this?
#2103 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> mib_itzwnt - What OS are you on?
#2104 [18:59] <ninjaqpuffle> what do i put in server adress while making a multiplayer server?
#2105 [19:00] <mib_itzwnt> Windows 7
#2106 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> ninjaqpuffle - Nothing
#2107 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> ninjaqpuffle - Leave it blank
#2108 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_itzwnt - 32 or 64 bit?
#2109 [19:00] <Shroom> 64 bit.
#2110 [19:00] <ninjaqpuffle> if i dont put anything i cant make the servert-it just wont let me
#2111 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall all prior versions of java, Shroom, and install only the 64 bit version of java
#2112 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> ninjaqpuffle - In server.properties?
#2113 [19:00] <Shroom> I've got 6 gigs of ram, so I know that can't be the issue.
#2114 [19:01] <Shroom> And ninja, put localhost.
#2115 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Shroom - No, it's because you have 32 bit java installed. It installs by default
#2116 [19:01] <Shroom> If logging into your server from the client.
#2117 [19:01] <ninjaqpuffle> one sec
#2118 [19:01] <Shroom> Ah kk. Thanks
#2119 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> 32 bit java, can't address all that RAM on your comptuer
#2120 [19:02] <Shroom> Java 6 Update 26 is all I need to remove, right?
#2121 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Yeah. If you know what you're doing though, you can install 64 bit java on top of 32 bit
#2122 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> You just need to point 64 bit java to launching minecraft instead
#2123 [19:02] <Shroom> Eh might as well just uninstall and get 64 bit.
#2124 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> The reason I usually tell people to uninstall, is to ensure 64 bit java is the one being used to launch minecraft
#2125 [19:02] <ninjaqpuffle> i am in edit server info and it asks for a server address
#2126 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> ninjaqpuffle - Ah, in minecraft? localhost is fine
#2127 [19:03] <ninjaqpuffle> not working
#2128 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> ninjaqpuffle - Is the server running on the same computer?
#2129 [19:04] <ninjaqpuffle> i havent made the server yet
#2130 [19:04] <Shroom> >.>
#2131 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Then how are you going to connect to a server that isn't there?
#2132 [19:04] <Shroom> That'd be the problem then.
#2133 [19:04] <Shroom> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Configuring_the_Minecraft_Server
#2134 [19:04] <Shroom> That's what I used ninja.
#2135 [19:04] <Shroom> Explains how to setup a server.
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#2137 [19:04] <ninjaqpuffle> thanks
#2138 [19:05] <Rene> Hi im here because my minecraft isnt working
#2139 [19:05] <Shroom> Grey, On java.com it doesn't give me an option between 32 bit, and 64 bit java.
#2140 [19:05] <Shroom> :(
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#2142 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Shroom - It should...
#2143 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Try this: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#2144 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> If you don't get the 64 bit link there, you can get it at:
#2145 [19:06] <Rene> everytime i login and start playing it gives me ten minutes and after the game just shuts down
#2146 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> ?? j
#2147 [19:06] <VoxelHead> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#2148 [19:06] <ninjaqpuffle> it asks me to do things ui cant on the link you gave me
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#2150 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> Or rather, try this for the latest java6 download: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
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#2152 [19:07] <ninjaqpuffle> im not in the download version
#2153 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> ninjaqpuffle - You need to run the minecraft server application to have a minecraft server to go to
#2154 [19:08] <Shroom> The one I just downloaded off java.com says this...
#2155 [19:08] <Shroom> Intel and 100% compatible processors are supported. A Pentium 166MHz or faster processor with at least 64MB of physical RAM is recommended. You will also need a minimum of 98MB of free disk space.
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#2157 [19:08] <Shroom> Erg.
#2158 [19:08] <Shroom> Wrong thing
#2159 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Erm?
#2160 [19:08] <Shroom> Copied the wrong thing. xD
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#2162 [19:09] <Shroom> Yup nvm, no prompt for the 64 bit, I'll use your link.
#2163 [19:09] <ninjaqpuffle> how do i set up a server in browser mode
#2164 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> You can't
#2165 [19:09] <Shroom> You have to download the server.
#2166 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> The server application is a seperate program
#2167 [19:09] <ninjaqpuffle> o
#2168 [19:09] <raisin> how do fix a openGLproblem
#2169 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> raisin - Update your video drivers
#2170 [19:10] <Shroom> On your link which download do I need to use?
#2171 [19:11] <Shroom> Windows x64 16.40 MB jre-6u29-windows-x64.exe
#2172 [19:11] <Shroom> That?
#2173 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2174 [19:11] <FluffySalamander> what are the minimum system requirements that i need to have on my laptop for it to run?
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#2176 [19:11] <Shroom> Ok brb gotta restart firefox for the uninstall to finish
#2177 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - The problem with you, is that something is blocking java/minecraft from communicating with the login server.
#2178 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Did you try the in-browser client?
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#2180 [19:13] <raisin> i tried it said it is up to date
#2181 [19:13] <FluffySalamander> yes. it turns out, i don't have java. and every time i download the java installer, but no matter where i say the destination folder should be, it doesn't show up.
#2182 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> raisin - How did you?
#2183 [19:14] <Shroom> Ok gonna try the game again and going to see if it crashes.
#2184 [19:14] <Shroom> Hoping minecraft is cool. I got it free today. :D
#2185 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Strange..
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#2187 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Shroom - Be prepared to lose several months of your life
#2188 [19:14] <FluffySalamander> eeeexactly.
#2189 [19:14] <raisin> i tried minecraft classic and it didn't work
#2190 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> raisin - How did you check that you have the latest video drivers?
#2191 [19:14] <Shroom> I got mine from a GPT website.
#2192 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> GPT?
#2193 [19:15] <Shroom> Won the code in a raffle on it.
#2194 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Oh nice
#2195 [19:15] <Shroom> The ones where you do offers and get paid.
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#2197 [19:15] <Shroom> It's a hobby when I'm bored.
#2198 [19:15] <Shroom> lol
#2199 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Could you try uninstalilng and reinstall all java from your system?
#2200 [19:15] <egg> CAn anyone help me download Java? It keeps saying error 1606?
#2201 [19:15] <FluffySalamander> i will try...
#2202 [19:15] <Shroom> Wow my server started up so much quicker with the new java
#2203 [19:16] <raisin> i checked my video driver
#2204 [19:16] <Shroom> And crap it's night.
#2205 [19:16] <Shroom> Gotta hide. xD
#2206 [19:16] <Shroom> Brb
#2207 [19:16] <FluffySalamander> i might have to completely log off everything, so if i never see you guys again, i'm going to miss all your beautiful faces.
#2208 [19:16] <egg> Anyone help me?
#2209 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2210 [19:17] <egg> Error 1606 trying to download java for windows 7
#2211 [19:20] <Shroom> It's not giving me coal when I kill the blocks. :(
#2212 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> You need to use a wood/stone pickaxe
#2213 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Coal_%28Ore%29
#2214 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> "A lump of coal can be mined directly from Coal ore using a wooden pickaxe or better."
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#2216 [19:21] <Shroom> Oh
#2217 [19:21] <Shroom> So I need to craft a pickaxe
#2218 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2219 [19:22] <Hairlip34> i need help with my minecraft game every time i try to play it wont load
#2220 [19:22] <Hairlip34> any ideas
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#2222 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Hairlip34 - Could you elaborate? What operating system are you on? How are you trying to launch it?
#2223 [19:24] <Hairlip34> i dont know what im on and i click on mutiplayer and click a lvl
#2224 [19:24] <Hairlip34> my computer is a gateway
#2225 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> Hairlip34 - What doesn't load? The minecraft application or a server?
#2226 [19:25] <Hairlip34> the free one and it says can not load game
#2227 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Hairlip34 - Do you have java installed? Can you check via
#2228 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> ?? java/version
#2229 [19:26] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2230 [19:26] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2231 [19:26] <Hairlip34> yes
#2232 [19:26] <Shroom> How do I make sticks?
#2233 [19:26] <Shroom> When I put planks in my craft it only goes to pressure plates.
#2234 [19:27] <GreyVulpine> Shroom - vertical planks
#2235 [19:27] <Shroom> Ohh I see
#2236 [19:27] <Shroom> Thanks
#2237 [19:27] <Hairlip34> Version 6
#2238 [19:28] <GreyVulpine> Hairlip34 - What is the exact error you're getting when you try to connect to a free MP server?
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#2240 [19:28] <Hairlip34> hold on let me load it up
#2241 [19:29] <FluffySalamander> Problem child is back.
#2242 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Still nothing?
#2243 [19:29] <FluffySalamander> could you send me that link that you gave me?
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#2245 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html ?
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#2247 [19:31] <FluffySalamander> the one that i said required java... i don't remember what you called it... but i have successfully downloaded java. (i think...)
#2248 [19:31] <Hairlip34> it says Fatal error occured (1): unable to load logoand progressbar images
#2249 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Aaah... I see
#2250 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Hairlip34 - Are you using internet explorer?
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#2252 [19:31] <Hairlip34> yes
#2253 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in your search bar or Run command, type in: %temp%
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#2255 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> in the temp folder, look for any folders named "www.minecraft.net" or "minecraft.net" and delete them
#2256 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> Make sure IE isn't running when you do this. Then launch IE and go back to minecraft again
#2257 [19:33] <Hairlip34> what? im confused
#2258 [19:34] <FluffySalamander> okay, so it launched, but it said i have a bad video driver. answer at your leisure. you seem busy. lol.
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#2260 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Alright, we're getting somewhere then. Give us a dxdiag
#2261 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> ??> FluffySalamander win/dxdiag
#2262 [19:34] <VoxelHead> FluffySalamander: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2263 [19:34] <Person5323> hello everyone
#2264 [19:34] <VoxelHead> FluffySalamander: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2265 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> Hairlip34 - Go to your start menu, do you see a Run command, or a search bar?
#2266 [19:35] <FluffySalamander> wait, what?
#2267 [19:35] <Hairlip34> no
#2268 [19:35] <FluffySalamander> "win
#2269 [19:35] <FluffySalamander> win+R keys?
#2270 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Your windows key is between your ctrl and alt keys. Has the windows logo on it. Press it and the R key at the same time
#2271 [19:36] <Hairlip34> found it
#2272 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> Hairlip34 - Did you put in: %temp% ?
#2273 [19:36] <Person5323> I cannot access minecraft.net. Can someone help me?
#2274 [19:36] <FluffySalamander> mine says Fn on it...
#2275 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Look to the right of the Fn key
#2276 [19:37] <Hairlip34> yes
#2277 [19:37] <Shroom> Crap. It's day and there is still a monster here.
#2278 [19:37] <Shroom> :S
#2279 [19:37] <FluffySalamander> there's the alt key...
#2280 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Hairlip34 - Alright. Look for any folders named "www.minecraft.net" or "minecraft.net"
#2281 [19:37] <mib_gt6ujy> Hey. I atempted to lode the old free vershion of minecraft. And every time I do. It says. "An error occured mhile loading the applet. Please contact support to resolve this issue. Fatal error occured (4): Unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.Jar.pack" And wont let me in.
#2282 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - And to the right?
#2283 [19:37] <FluffySalamander> the ~
#2284 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> mib_gt6ujy - Completely uninstall and reinstall java
#2285 [19:37] <FluffySalamander> squiggy
#2286 [19:37] <Hairlip34> isnt 1
#2287 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - What.. sort of...
#2288 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Hairlip34 - There should be one, look again. Make sure you're in the temp folder
#2289 [19:38] <mib_gt6ujy> Any advise on how to fix it?
#2290 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> mib_gt6ujy - Completely uninstall and reinstall java
#2291 [19:38] <FluffySalamander> I have a toshiba, it's kind of old, too.
#2292 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Alright, go to your start menu, do you see a Run command?
#2293 [19:38] <FluffySalamander> yes.
#2294 [19:38] <Hairlip34> the folder says temp on it and im still looking
#2295 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> Click on it
#2296 [19:38] <FluffySalamander> yup.
#2297 [19:38] <GreyVulpine> In the run prompt, type in: dxdiag
#2298 [19:38] <mib_gt6ujy> OK. I will givr it a try. Thanks
#2299 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - When you get the directx diagnostic console up, you'll see a button labeled "save all information". Please do so, and save the text file on your desktop
#2300 [19:39] <GreyVulpine> Let me know when you have done so
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#2302 [19:40] <FluffySalamander> done.
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#2304 [19:40] <Hairlip34> cant find it
#2305 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Close the dxdiag window. Open up the text file. Copy everything inside, and go to http://www.pastebin.com/ -- paste it there and submit it
#2306 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Then give us the URL to the page
#2307 [19:41] <Hairlip34> me
#2308 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Hairlip34 - You don't see any folders named either "minecraft.net" or "www.minecraft.net"?
#2309 [19:42] <FluffySalamander> should i give it a title?
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#2311 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Nah
#2312 [19:42] <Hairlip34> no i didnt see a folder that said minecraft.net or www.minecraft.net
#2313 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> Hairlip34 - Could you try a different browser? Try firefox or chrome?
#2314 [19:43] <Hairlip34> dont have
#2315 [19:43] <FluffySalamander> http://pastebin.com/9sM6kj12
#2316 [19:43] <FluffySalamander> bing.
#2317 [19:43] <FluffySalamander> there we go.
#2318 [19:43] <GreyVulpine> You can download firefox from: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/
#2319 [19:44] <Hairlip34> g2g got yelled at
#2320 [19:44] <Hairlip34> sorry i looked
#2321 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Wow, that's kinda an old computer you got there FluffySalamander. Could you try installing these drivers?
#2322 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=12536&ProdId=1862&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers
#2323 [19:44] <FluffySalamander> told you it was old.
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#2328 [19:46] <FluffySalamander> one of them just had an unknown error and it quit.
#2329 [19:47] <FluffySalamander> the other was successful.
#2330 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> Other.. one?
#2331 [19:48] <FluffySalamander> I will try redownloading some of them to see which one.
#2332 [19:48] <kingtaco> is it possible for someone to change name to something other than their minecraft user name when logging into a server?
#2333 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> Only if the server has online-mode set to false
#2334 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> This disables the server's username authentication callback to the minecraft server
#2335 [19:50] <kingtaco> ah... let me check my settings
#2336 [19:51] <FluffySalamander> oooooh, it was one link... i gotcha...
#2337 [19:51] <FluffySalamander> it told me to restart. should i do that now?
#2338 [19:51] <FluffySalamander> oops... brb.
#2339 [19:51] <FluffySalamander> i'm gonna restart it now.
#2340 [19:52] * GreyVulpine nods
#2340 [19:52] <kingtaco> online-mode is set to true... so all should be well. I guess someone bought a really odd user name.
#2341 [19:55] <kingtaco> it is possible to change your user name in your minecraft account and then change it back? ... or are you stuck with the usersame you sign up with?
#2342 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> You're stuck with the username
#2343 [19:56] <kingtaco> ok... thanks.
#2344 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> There is no current way of changing a minecraft username once you signed up for it
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#2348 [19:57] <done929> hello i need help
#2349 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> With?
#2350 [19:58] <done929> lol i tried installing mods
#2351 [19:58] <done929> and im now getting
#2352 [19:58] <FluffySalamander> okay, I'm back.
#2353 [19:58] <done929> updating minecraft
#2354 [19:58] <done929> done loading
#2355 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> done929 - What operating system are you on?
#2356 [19:58] <done929> then wont move on to next screen
#2357 [19:58] <done929> um what do u mean?
#2358 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Try minecraft now?
#2359 [19:58] <done929> i had mods
#2360 [19:58] <done929> allitemsmod
#2361 [19:58] <done929> all items mod*
#2362 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> done929 - Windows? Mac? Linux? OS/2 warp?
#2363 [19:58] <done929> windows lol
#2364 [19:58] <FluffySalamander> I have, and it stil says bad video card drivers.
#2365 [19:59] <done929> ive been here before if u remember
#2366 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> done929 - Go back to your .minecraft folder. Delete everything but the saves folder. Then relaunch minecraft
#2367 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Alright. Could you go here: http://www.minecraft.net/download
#2368 [19:59] <done929> well can i delete the saves folder
#2369 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> done929 - You can
#2370 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Click on "Show all platforms" do you see minecraft.jar?
#2371 [20:00] <done929> due to it makes my system lagg with old worlds (nullsaves)
#2372 [20:00] <FluffySalamander> yes, i do.
#2373 [20:00] <done929> ok done now wat
#2374 [20:00] <done929> ive perm deleted from recycle bin aswell
#2375 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> done929 - Launch minecraft again
#2376 [20:01] <done929> kk
#2377 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Download the .jar to a folder on your desktop
#2378 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> In the same place, right click in the same place where you download the .jar to, and make a "new text document"
#2379 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to put in: java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2380 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Go up to file -> save as -> save it as any filename that ends in .bat
#2381 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Change the file type to: All files
#2382 [20:02] <done929> its redownloading
#2383 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> Then double click on that .bat file to run minecraft
#2384 [20:03] <done929> ok grey can u help with installing mods plz
#2385 [20:03] <done929> all the vids make it mess up
#2386 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> I haven't really modded at all recently..
#2387 [20:03] <done929> well do u know how to instll them?
#2388 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Generally, yes. You'll want to make sure the mod is updated and is compatible with the version of minecraft you're running.
#2389 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Make sure if it asks for any pre-reqs, like modloader or such, that you install those before hand
#2390 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Pretty much all mods, you go to .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar, open that .jar up using a compression program of your choice, and shove the mod's files inside
#2391 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Delete the meta-inf folder inside minecraft.jar, and that should be it
#2392 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> Some mods have further instructions, like creating more folder/text files/whatever
#2393 [20:05] <done929> well i tried using
#2394 [20:05] <done929> allitems mod and
#2395 [20:05] <done929> another one
#2396 [20:05] <done929> and modloader into bin
#2397 [20:06] <done929> and it said
#2398 [20:06] <done929> mods running : 2
#2399 [20:06] <done929> minecraft crashed t
#2400 [20:06] <done929> then shut down
#2401 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> I'm not familiar with "allitems" mods
#2402 [20:06] <FluffySalamander> okay, i got lost at the change file type.
#2403 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - At the Save as prompt, do you see below the Filename, there's a file type?
#2404 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Change it from .txt to "all files"
#2405 [20:07] <done929> sorry its
#2406 [20:07] <done929> too many items mod
#2407 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> done929 - Ah. Toomanyitems shouldn't need modloader.
#2408 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Unless you're adding some other mods in as well
#2409 [20:07] <done929> yes i am
#2410 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> I see..
#2411 [20:07] <done929> its like some items
#2412 [20:07] <done929> like people made
#2413 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> Try adding toomanyitems itself, see if it crashes
#2414 [20:08] <done929> it doesnt
#2415 [20:08] <done929> cos ive already added it
#2416 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Then add modloader, then whatever other mods you want to add
#2417 [20:08] <done929> how do i make another minecraft.jar?
#2418 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> You don't
#2419 [20:08] <done929> well can u
#2420 [20:08] <done929> as a backup
#2421 [20:08] <FluffySalamander> yes. i have changed that. however, when i double click on the file, a dos screen flashes and almost immediatly blips out.
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#2423 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> As a backup, sure. Just copy the minecraft.jar, move it elsewhere
#2424 [20:08] <FluffySalamander> then nothing happens.
#2425 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - Hmm, right click on the .bat, "edit", and put "pause" in a seperate line
#2426 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Without quotes
#2427 [20:10] <FluffySalamander> okay. now run it again?
#2428 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2429 [20:10] <FluffySalamander> okay.
#2430 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> What does it say now? You can right click inside, choose 'mark' and drag a box around the text to copy it
#2431 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Paste it at pastebin.com so that you can share it
#2432 [20:11] <done929> i think its working
#2433 [20:12] <done929> another question
#2434 [20:12] <done929> does buildcraft 1.7.3 work on 1.8.1 now with the updated modloadeR?
#2435 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> I do not know. Most likely not. With mods, each time minecraft updates to a new version, the mod needs to be as well
#2436 [20:13] <FluffySalamander> http://pastebin.com/TKZkfzb8
#2437 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> 1.7.3 will not work on 1.8.1 generally
#2438 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander -Did you download minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download to that pants folder?
#2439 [20:13] <done929> um wtf
#2440 [20:14] <done929> i went on there and to many items mod isnt on there
#2441 [20:14] <FluffySalamander> shut up. and yes.
#2442 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> FluffySalamander - And you're sure it's named "minecraft.jar" and nothing else?
#2443 [20:15] <FluffySalamander> it says minecraft (2)
#2444 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> rename it, remove (2)
#2445 [20:15] <FluffySalamander> and add .jar?
#2446 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> nah, most likely is still there
#2447 [20:15] <done929> um idea
#2448 [20:15] <done929> on it right click it
#2449 [20:15] <done929> go to properties
#2450 [20:15] <done929> and check its a jar file
#2451 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, his windows is hiding extensions. It's like that by default
#2452 [20:17] <FluffySalamander> it is an executable jar file. now what? i renamed it "remove (2)"
#2453 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> No, no... I meant remove the (2) from the file. make sure the file is named minecraft
#2454 [20:18] <FluffySalamander> sorry. my dad's next to me. he was wrong.
#2455 [20:18] <FluffySalamander> done.
#2456 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Now run the .bat
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#2458 [20:19] <done929> im high on minecraft :P
#2459 [20:19] <|Kiikun|> done929: you been snorting the redstone again?
#2460 [20:20] <done929> nope smoking crack
#2461 [20:20] <done929> ill send u link to youtube vid
#2462 [20:20] <|Kiikun|> smokign ravines? :P
#2463 [20:21] <done929> http://www.youtube.com/user/HDAViiRuS?feature=mhee
#2464 [20:21] <done929> its the video that plays
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#2466 [20:22] <|Kiikun|> ....
#2467 [20:22] <|Kiikun|> thats more shoomvision.
#2468 [20:22] <FluffySalamander> IT WORKS!!! thank you so much!
#2469 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Glad to hear it
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#2472 [20:24] <mib_b5wo8s> hey
#2473 [20:25] <mib_b5wo8s> can anyone help me?
#2474 [20:25] <mib_b5wo8s> anyone?
#2475 [20:25] <done929> um were not telepathic tell us ur problem
#2476 [20:26] <done929> lol
#2477 [20:26] <mib_b5wo8s> oh
#2478 [20:26] <mib_b5wo8s> lol
#2479 [20:26] <mib_b5wo8s> so umm
#2480 [20:26] <|Kiikun|> and enter key is not a punctuation :P
#2481 [20:26] <almostroot> |Kiikun|: Way to steal my thunder. ;P
#2482 [20:26] <|Kiikun|> almostroot: mwahahah! >:D
#2483 [20:26] * almostroot doesn't care. Got new toys today.
#2483 [20:27] <mib_b5wo8s> my prob is that when i try to download mine craft i clic run and everything but then a error from java says fatal exception error
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#2485 [20:27] <almostroot> mib_b5wo8s: Please put the error on pastebin.
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#2487 [20:27] <almostroot> ??> mib_b5wo8s pastebin
#2488 [20:27] <mib_b5wo8s> k
#2489 [20:27] <VoxelHead> mib_b5wo8s: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#2491 [20:28] <mib_b5wo8s> Fatal exception occured. Program will exit.
#2492 [20:28] <mib_b5wo8s> and its by jaba
#2493 [20:29] <mib_b5wo8s> *java
#2494 [20:29] <mib_b5wo8s> ?
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#2498 [20:30] <mib_b5wo8s> click on those?
#2499 [20:30] <Person5323> I cannot access minecraft.net..... can someone help me?
#2500 [20:31] <mib_b5wo8s> hey ummm I have an error
#2501 [20:31] <Xavier> Hey there. Got another problem. It seems like it gets darker than usual at night, and this just started happening since I downgraded to 1.7 and started a new world.
#2502 [20:31] <helpme> I made payment for the Minecraft and then rec'd the email to download. My computer has an error with the download - will my credit card still be charged? The error is bad video card driver. What happens now?
#2503 [20:31] <mib_b5wo8s> OMFG SAME
#2504 [20:32] <mib_b5wo8s> well I just cant download
#2505 [20:32] <mib_b5wo8s> :#
#2506 [20:32] <|Kiikun|> helpme: bad video card mean you need new video card drivers.
#2507 [20:32] <mib_b5wo8s> anyone?
#2508 [20:32] <mib_b5wo8s> can anyone halp?
#2509 [20:32] <|Kiikun|> mib_b5wo8s: 'fatal exception' measn java is crashing. uninstall and reinstall java
#2510 [20:32] <mib_b5wo8s> cuz I think my prob is easy to fix but I dont have a lot of time
#2511 [20:33] <helpme> Is there a help # to call ? Will my credit card be charged when I can't even download it?
#2512 [20:33] <almostroot> mib_b5wo8s: Put the error on pastebin, submit it, and give us the webpage address.
#2513 [20:33] <mib_b5wo8s> I KNOW I TRIED TO RE DOWNLOAD BUT THERES YET ANOTHER ERROR BUT WITH JAVA
#2514 [20:33] * almostroot kicked mib_b5wo8s from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_b5wo8s :Read and be polite.)
#2515 [20:33] <almostroot> helpme: The issue is your computer, not Minecarft.
#2516 [20:33] <almostroot> Minecraft*
#2517 [20:34] <Person5323> Can someone help me access minecraft.net
#2518 [20:34] <Person5323> ?
#2519 [20:34] <|Kiikun|> Person5323: http://www.minecraft.net
#2520 [20:35] <Person5323> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.minecraft.net.
#2521 [20:35] <Person5323> works on my other computers
#2522 [20:35] <|Kiikun|> Person5323: have you pirated the game before on that computer?
#2523 [20:35] <Xavier> Is there a known cause for overly dark nights? I'm in 1.7.3 by the way
#2524 [20:36] <Person5323> i did download a cracked version to try but now i want to buy it.....or tried it for like a week offline only
#2525 [20:36] <|Kiikun|> Xavier: id say brightness settings. but 1.7.3 didnt have those.
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#2527 [20:36] <rneuby> I need help
#2528 [20:36] <|Kiikun|> ??> Person5323 win/hosts
#2529 [20:36] <VoxelHead> Person5323: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2530 [20:36] <VoxelHead> Person5323: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2531 [20:36] <Xavier> No, it's not brightness, brightness doesn't seem to affect it at all.
#2532 [20:36] <rneuby> and the paste bin is being screwy
#2533 [20:37] <rneuby> please Idk what to do anymore and time is running
#2534 [20:37] <rneuby> out
#2535 [20:37] <|Kiikun|> Xavier: 1.7.3 had the old lightign system.. maybe your just used to the new lighting? o.o;
#2536 [20:37] <rneuby> can anyone help?
#2537 [20:37] <Xavier> When i walk away from a light source at night (out in the dark), it gets darker and darker until I cannot see anything at all.
#2538 [20:38] <|Kiikun|> rneuby: you were the miob root kicked? did you uninstall and reinstall java like i said?
#2539 [20:38] <rneuby> Ya
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#2541 [20:39] <Person5323> http://pastebin.com/Ngc6Wfrt
#2542 [20:39] <|Kiikun|> rneuby: is that a yes to being the mib, yes to having reinstalled java, or both?
#2543 [20:39] <rneuby> miv
#2544 [20:39] <rneuby> *mib
#2545 [20:39] <bk> anybody know why, after I bought the game and my account switched to premium, the exe file on the download page does nothing
#2546 [20:39] <rneuby> But im pretty lost please help
#2547 [20:40] <|Kiikun|> Person5323: yeah, your host file needs to be de-pirated. know how to open notepad as an administrator?
#2548 [20:40] <Person5323> yes
#2549 [20:40] <|Kiikun|> Person5323: ok remove all three lines starting 127.0.0.1
#2550 [20:40] <rneuby> Please I really need help theres a bug with JAVA!!
#2551 [20:41] <|Kiikun|> almostroot: *offers*
#2552 [20:41] <rneuby> ?
#2553 [20:41] <Person5323> Thanks Kiikun!
#2554 [20:42] <|Kiikun|> Person5323: no prob :3 and remember piracy is bad :P
#2555 [20:42] <Person5323> haha yes thanks
#2556 [20:42] <almostroot> |Kiikun|: hmm?
#2557 [20:43] <|Kiikun|> rneuby: ok.. third time. uninstall and reinstall java. yelling and being beligerent will not only get you NOT helped, but will get you kicked.. repeatedly.
#2558 [20:43] <rneuby> Ok but the trouble is that java itself has a bug and I cant do anything
#2559 [20:44] <|Kiikun|> rneuby: "Ok but"... are you DOING it.. or juct COMPLAINING about it?
#2560 [20:46] <done929> dude ur dumb
#2561 [20:46] <done929> java has no bug
#2562 [20:46] <done929> due to it works for everyone else
#2563 [20:46] <done929> its just ur stupid computer playing up
#2564 [20:46] <|Kiikun|> done929: java breaks and has bugs :P just what hes claimign si a bug ISNT a bug.
#2565 [20:47] <|Kiikun|> crashing = something broken = JAVA broken = need to have a clean installed java
#2566 [20:48] <|Kiikun|> unless he's installed mods... and the mods are doing something thats crashign so bad it breaks the VM...
#2567 [20:48] <done929> dude java doesnt break cos if it does
#2568 [20:48] <done929> i wouldnt be playing minecraft atm
#2569 [20:48] <done929> cos i redownloaded it literally 10mins ago
#2570 [20:49] <almostroot> done929: It can and does.
#2571 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Java does break, and we see it break all the time.
#2572 [20:49] <|Kiikun|> your java didnt break. :P doesnt mean someone elses local files didnt get corrupted, or a setting in java got changed and conflicts with itself
#2573 [20:49] <done929> how u mean it break?
#2574 [20:49] <done929> true
#2575 [20:49] <|Kiikun|> 'stop working'
#2576 [20:49] <almostroot> done929: Upon detonating 8.57 million blocks of TNT, it bored the entire Java installation on my server. Nothing that used Java worked.
#2577 [20:49] <done929> basicly
#2578 [20:49] <almostroot> bored/borked
#2579 [20:50] <done929> lol
#2580 [20:50] <done929> go to control panel
#2581 [20:50] <done929> oon unistall a progrem
#2582 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Could be anything from prior versions of java interfering with the runtime of java, to drivers borking java, to other applications hooking into java wrongly..
#2583 [20:50] <done929> program
#2584 [20:50] <done929> or around that
#2585 [20:50] <done929> go on it
#2586 [20:50] <done929> look for all java undownload
#2587 [20:50] <done929> redownload it all
#2588 [20:50] <done929> and its fixed
#2589 [20:51] <|Kiikun|> done929: thats what i mean by 'uninstall and reinstall java' :P and enter key is not a punctuation
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#2591 [20:51] <bre> Uh.. I have a problem
#2592 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> We have solutions.
#2593 [20:51] <done929> um what u mean enter key is not a punctuation?
#2594 [20:51] <done929> were not telepathic
#2595 [20:51] <|Kiikun|> bre: ok shoot :D *DUCKS!*
#2596 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> please stop
#2597 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> doing this
#2598 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> to all
#2599 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> your sentences
#2600 [20:51] <Jckf> Could anyone explain this http://goo.gl/Fgc0P http://goo.gl/MSv79 ? It happens all the time and is basically making the game unplayable
#2601 [20:52] <done929> sorry umm its a habit
#2602 [20:52] <bre> After about 10 minutes of playing it kicks me off and says "Not evnough memory" blah blah blah
#2603 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, your HD texture pack there is probably drawing too much RAM
#2604 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Or you're not giving it enough.
#2605 [20:52] <done929> what she said :P
#2606 [20:52] <bre> I dont have any tecture packs or mods though
#2607 [20:53] <Jckf> GreyVulpine: So give Java more and all should be well?
#2608 [20:53] <bre> I tried that,
#2609 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> bre - Yeah, you are though
#2610 [20:53] <bre> I have x64 bit,
#2611 [20:53] * |Kiikun| beats done929 with a deas horse.
#2611 [20:53] <bre> and 4gb ram
#2612 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Those screenshots, are not using default textures
#2613 [20:53] <bre> I put 2048M
#2614 [20:53] <done929> ow
#2615 [20:54] <Xavier> I am experiencing extreme darkness from being in dark areas too long, it gets darker and darker until i can't see anything at all. This is 1.7.3
#2616 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> At the very least, you're using hd fix or equivalent, and a custom HD texture pack on your minecraft install
#2617 [20:54] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: links were from Jckf, not bre :P
#2618 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Gah!
#2619 [20:54] <bre> i'm not using anything, I didnt send any links
#2620 [20:54] <bre> lol
#2621 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Jckf - Give java more RAM, yes
#2622 [20:55] <|Kiikun|> :moreram
#2623 [20:55] <|Kiikun|> dope!
#2624 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> bre - Do you have 64 bit java installed on your machine?
#2625 [20:55] <bre> What should I put is as then? I tried Xmx2048M AND Xmx4048M
#2626 [20:55] <|Kiikun|> apparently wugbot messages on ALL triggers :/
#2627 [20:55] <bre> I cant find the direct link, only the 32 bit one!
#2628 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> ?? java
#2629 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> ffs
#2630 [20:55] <|Kiikun|> getjava?
#2631 [20:55] <bre> yeah i went there, I deleted my current java and got the x64, it still says 32 bit.
#2632 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#2633 [20:55] <done929> grey calmmm
#2634 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Go there. Download java
#2635 [20:56] <bre> I'll try it
#2636 [20:56] <done929> calm and just break a piece of wood with ur fist
#2637 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall 32 bit java first, if you must
#2638 [20:56] <done929> its fun and dont hurt :P
#2639 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Done it. Hurts like crap
#2640 [20:57] <bre> kk which one do i choose? I've got win 7 ult. x64 with 4gb RAM
#2641 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> jre-6u29-windows-x64.exe
#2642 [20:57] <bre> ^ that one? okayz
#2643 [20:58] <Xavier> I am experiencing extreme darkness from being in dark areas too long, it gets darker and darker until i can't see anything at all. This is 1.7.3. Could someone maybe diagnose the problem?
#2644 [20:58] <bre> ^ update maayyyyyuuuunn
#2645 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Don't understand what "extreme darkness" is.
#2646 [20:58] <bre> How much darker can dark get?
#2647 [20:58] <Xavier> I cannot see ANYTHING.
#2648 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Light a torch?
#2649 [20:58] <bre> Then you are in darkness.
#2650 [20:58] <bre> ^^ lmao
#2651 [20:58] <bre> light a torch
#2652 [20:59] <Xavier> Torches are darker than usual as well, but my point is that the lighting engine is going nuts for no reason, it just started doing this for no reason.
#2653 [21:00] <|Kiikun|> bre: "Thou who art darker than even darkness, Thou who art deeper than even the night! Drifting upon the Sea of Chaos, Oh, Golden Lord of Darkness!"
#2654 [21:00] <Jckf> How about this, GreyVulpine? http://goo.gl/6WvMb
#2655 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> Tried a "Force update" through the launcher's options menu?
#2656 [21:00] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2657 [21:00] <Jckf> That's default textures
#2658 [21:00] * GreyVulpine blames mods/modloader
#2658 [21:00] <Xavier> Hang on, I'm gonna try something real quick.
#2659 [21:01] <|Kiikun|> its also a server... i tend to see this more on SMP worlds than in SSP
#2660 [21:01] <Xavier> I don't think it is optifine, it was working earlier
#2661 [21:01] <bre> Dude, Do this
#2662 [21:01] <bre> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/709838-19-pre-release-4-is-out/
#2663 [21:01] <bre> Grab the minecraft.jar and replace the one you have
#2664 [21:01] <bre> simple
#2665 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't work for connecting to his current server, if it's not also running pre-4
#2666 [21:02] <DopeGhoti> also, we don't support prereleases.
#2667 [21:02] <bre> not him, The kid complaining about the dark.
#2668 [21:02] <Xavier> Wait, you mean me? I don't want 1.9.
#2669 [21:03] <bre> Why not?
#2670 [21:03] <Xavier> I like 1.7 better.
#2671 [21:03] <|Kiikun|> bre: he downgraded to 1.7.3 intentionlly
#2672 [21:03] <bre> Are you scared of the Endermen too? I screamed the first time one attacked me
#2673 [21:03] <bre> my bf laughed at me.
#2674 [21:03] <Xavier> No i just like 1.7 better in all
#2675 [21:03] <Wug> people in libraries should not be blasting lady gaga
#2676 [21:04] <bre> ^this
#2677 [21:04] <|Kiikun|> rofl wug
#2678 [21:04] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2678 [21:04] * Wug tracks down the culprit and burns the ipod with his rage
#2678 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> s/people in libraries //#FTFY
#2679 [21:04] <DopeGhoti> er, rather s/in libraries //
#2680 [21:04] <Wug> also WHY DO SKATEBOARDERS SWERVE AROUND
#2681 [21:04] <Wug> DRIVE IN A STRAIGHT EFFING LINE
#2682 [21:05] <Wug> OR I'LL SPEED UP AND ROLL OVER YOU
#2683 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> as a way to keep going further, translating rotational momentum into linear
#2684 [21:05] <bre> now that i think of it... my worlds have been a bit darker too... but i just thought it was the puzzle map i dwnld
#2685 [21:05] * Wug rages hardcore
#2685 [21:05] <Xavier> uh what?
#2686 [21:05] <Xavier> What is going on?
#2687 [21:05] <Jckf> Wug: To gain speed
#2688 [21:05] * Wug is raging at people being stupid
#2688 [21:05] <Jckf> Now hush
#2689 [21:05] * DopeGhoti gently directs Wug toward #pointlessofftopicrants
#2689 [21:05] <Wug> Jckf: that only works for those specific board types
#2690 [21:05] <almostroot> Liberries?
#2691 [21:05] <Jckf> Wug: No
#2692 [21:05] <bildramer> people [snip] should not be blasting lady gaga
#2693 [21:05] <bre> It's official... i fucking HATE puzzle maps
#2694 [21:05] * AuBot kicked bre from #minecrafthelp (Reason: re :Please keep it civil.)
#2695 [21:06] <Wug> in general, driving around on a skateboard on an unlit bikepath after 8:00 while swerving all over the damn thing is a sign of being an egotistical dick
#2696 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> !topic add RIP John McCarthy
#2697 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> no, it's more a sign of being an inconsiderate skateboarder.
#2698 [21:07] <Wug> for the same reason I hate when people walk on the bike path
#2699 [21:07] <Wug> because theyre slow and have no idea wtf to do it an actual biker comes along
#2700 [21:07] <Wug> "Ill just walk slowly in the dark on the left side of the bike path in my black jacket and dark jeans"
#2701 [21:07] <DopeGhoti> Wug: Huh. A lot of motorists have the same thoughts about cyclists.
#2702 [21:07] <Jckf> I think you're being egocentric. Atleast you bikers have your own road. It's better for skaters to be there than where people walk
#2703 [21:08] <Wug> Jckf: yeah, but still
#2704 [21:08] <Jckf> Share the love ;)
#2705 [21:08] <Xavier> I am now in vanilla 1.7.3, it's still having problems. Strange. I have heard of this before though, I don't remember there being a good solution though, sadly.
#2706 [21:08] <Jckf> The lova that is your own road =P
#2707 [21:08] <Wug> its not that hard. you drive on the right
#2708 [21:08] <Jckf> *love
#2709 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> Worse-case, bike v. pedestrian: in all likelihood, a broken arm.
#2710 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Try mixing bikers/skaters/rollerbladers/walkers on a college campus
#2711 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> worse-case, bike vs. motorcar: in all likelihood, a morgue.
#2712 [21:08] <Wug> ^ this is my situation
#2713 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> I had to deal with that as a biker for years
#2714 [21:08] <Wug> ^&^^^^^^
#2715 [21:08] <almostroot> FYI: Chunks load quickly on a solid state drive.
#2716 [21:08] <Jckf> Anyway -> http://goo.gl/6WvMb
#2717 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> almostroot: they load faster from a tmpfs drive.
#2718 [21:08] <Wug> we can't drive on the walkways, but people can do whatever on the bike paths
#2719 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> I have the scars to prove it
#2720 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> or /dev/shm (:
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#2722 [21:09] <almostroot> DopeGhoti: Server is in memory, local is on a SSD.
#2723 [21:09] <Wug> also our bike paths are unlit
#2724 [21:09] <Wug> walking one one in the dark is asking to get your ass flattened
#2725 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Gah, yeah
#2726 [21:09] <Wug> see also skateboarding down the wrong lane
#2727 [21:10] <almostroot> And they load like they don't exist in /dev/null
#2728 [21:10] <Agirl> does anyone know why my map is darker? when i am in a room it gets darker and i lit torches no help prerelease
#2729 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> I had 'bike paths' be 6-inch wide pieces of concrete
#2730 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Also, trees that haven't been trimmed in years
#2731 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> Agirl: sorry, we don't support 1.9
#2732 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Would you like a branch to the face? Go on this bike path!
#2733 [21:10] <|Kiikun|> Agirl: and if your near bedrock, its part of lighting.
#2734 [21:10] <Wug> we have a lot of bikers so since I came here they've installed lots of paths, but theyre still unlie
#2735 [21:10] <Wug> inlit*
#2736 [21:10] <Wug> u*
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#2738 [21:11] <Agirl> no.. i am just in cave.... it will start out light and get more dark
#2739 [21:11] <Agirl> i even turned up lighting
#2740 [21:11] <Agirl> :/
#2741 [21:11] <Wug> Agirl: is it getting dark out
#2742 [21:11] <Wug> torchlight doesnt carry as far as sunlight
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#2744 [21:12] <Agirl> no its daytime
#2745 [21:12] <Wug> and the transition to night it smooth
#2746 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> "it's".
#2747 [21:12] <|Kiikun|> no, "is"
#2748 [21:12] <Agirl> i will stay in the same room and it will get darker and darker then when i leave and go back to teh room its lighted again
#2749 [21:12] <|Kiikun|> oh :P
#2750 [21:12] <Agirl> must just be a bug
#2751 [21:13] <Wug> is your computer broken
#2752 [21:13] <Agirl> no >_<
#2753 [21:13] <Wug> is it a mac, and is the backlight auto adjusting or something
#2754 [21:13] <|Kiikun|> sugestion. record it with something liek fraps
#2755 [21:13] <Agirl> no a PC
#2756 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> have you tried this on other maps? Do you have any mods installed? Have you tried a fresh install of minecraft?
#2757 [21:13] <Wug> are you really far down underground
#2758 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> Are there any mods whatsoever installed?
#2759 [21:13] <Agirl> no mods, and its happening on all my maps
#2760 [21:13] <Wug> there is block fog near the void
#2761 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> what GPU are you using?
#2762 [21:14] <Agirl> and i reinstalled twice now
#2763 [21:14] <done929> lol im gonna have like 6 mods now
#2764 [21:14] <done929> i hope it dont crash
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#2766 [21:14] <done929> goddam it!
#2767 [21:14] <guest-154886-43958> WOAH.
#2768 [21:14] <Agirl> no far underground either
#2769 [21:14] <Insadesu> Watch those words.
#2770 [21:15] <Agirl> i'm helpless D:
#2771 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> 'goddam' isn't a word.
#2772 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> Agirl: what GPU is your system running?
#2773 [21:15] <done929> god dam it
#2774 [21:15] <Agirl> GPU?
#2775 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> ?? gpu
#2776 [21:15] <VoxelHead> gpu: Graphical Processing Unit; also known as one's Video Card or Graphics Adapter. See ?? dxdiag for how to get lots if information about yours.
#2777 [21:15] <Wug> DopeGhoti: what are you, the grammar police now? ;)
#2778 [21:16] <Agirl> I just had that fixed its not that.. cause it was working fine a few days ago
#2779 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> done929: I think you mean "damn"; dam is a verb meaning 'to construct a dam', or a noun.
#2780 [21:16] <Agirl> god didnt tell noah to build a dam, your thinking on an ark.
#2781 [21:17] <Agirl> anyways, i guess i will try asking my friends if they've had any problems
#2782 [21:17] <Agirl> thanks anyways
#2783 [21:17] <done929> when installing mods
#2784 [21:17] <done929> after each one do i have to start minecraft?
#2785 [21:17] <done929> so it loads
#2786 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> you could also try answering our questions with regard to your hardware. or just leave. bye, then.
#2787 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> done
#2788 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> done mods
#2789 [21:17] <VoxelHead> done: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2790 [21:17] <VoxelHead> done: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2791 [21:18] <done929> ok just asking lol
#2792 [21:24] <Xavier> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21011283/2011-10-24_21.22.14.png This is how dark my game gets, I can't see at all. That is me looking down at some grass at night, all you can make out is my arm.
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#2795 [21:27] <mib_rx1vlw> my minecraft crashed when i instaled mo creatures
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#2797 [21:28] <mib_rx1vlw> my minecraft crashed when i instaled mo creatures
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#2799 [21:33] <Xavier> ah it's hopeless
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#2802 [21:37] <Xavier_> Fixed the darkness problem, had something to do with fancy/fast graphics. Switching to fast fixes it apparently.
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#2805 [21:48] <\x00> Does anyone here have experience porting vanilla mods to Bukkit, or with using ModLoaderMP with MCP?
#2806 [21:48] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ?? mods
#2807 [21:48] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2808 [21:48] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2809 [21:49] <|Kiikun|Janus|> or you can try the mcp channels.
#2810 [21:49] <\x00> Mm
#2811 [21:49] <\x00> Alright, thanks
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#2815 [21:56] <|Kiikun|Janus|> GRAGH!!!
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#2818 [22:00] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ok.. sorry about the ragequit.
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#2823 [22:18] <bdog> hey
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#2830 [22:51] <Shroom> This is the only chat that will run for me. lol
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#2832 [22:55] <froglegstew> if I was a bad supporter and pirated the game first, but bought it today, is there a way to remove the pirated host address?
#2833 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/hosts
#2834 [22:56] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2835 [22:56] * GreyVulpine points
#2835 [22:56] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2836 [22:58] <Ketsueki> So um... Is minecraft's login broked again?
#2837 [22:58] <Ketsueki> http://login.minecraft.net/ Hum bad login
#2838 [22:59] <froglegstew> http://pastebin.com/6KQTQh5s
#2839 [22:59] <Ketsueki> Hummm my password is fine.
#2840 [23:00] <Ketsueki> Did they update the launcher or something?
#2841 [23:00] <Ketsueki> Oh geeze there we go
#2842 [23:02] <\x00> Ketsueki: Minecraft's login is always broked
#2843 [23:02] <\x00> Notch is a multimillionaire, but can't afford to host the login server on anything better than a potato.
#2844 [23:03] <Shroom> Grey. I'm scared by Minecraft now.
#2845 [23:03] <TheBadShepperd> Potato? You wish!
#2846 [23:03] <TheBadShepperd> It's run on a cumkyat.
#2847 [23:03] <\x00> Shroom, huh?
#2848 [23:03] <Shroom> I dig myself out a cave. Then start digging down...
#2849 [23:03] <Shroom> Dug into a HUGE cave.
#2850 [23:03] <Shroom> Tons of monsters.
#2851 [23:03] <Shroom> Lava, water, the works. xD
#2852 [23:03] <Ketsueki> Shroom: yeah that's a bad trip
#2853 [23:04] <Shroom> I've thrown down like 200 torches down there.
#2854 [23:04] <Shroom> And not even explored it all
#2855 [23:04] <Ketsueki> Shroom: Ohhh one of THOSE fuckers
#2856 [23:04] * AuBot kicked Ketsueki from #minecrafthelp (Reason: etsueki :Please keep it civil.)
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#2858 [23:04] <Shroom> But lots of gold coal and iron.
#2859 [23:04] <\x00> Yeah Ketsueki
#2860 [23:04] <Ketsueki> That's a coliqual term.
#2861 [23:04] <\x00> keep it fucking civil
#2862 [23:04] * AuBot kicked \x00 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: x00 :Please keep it civil.)
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#2864 [23:04] <Shroom> Omfg
#2865 [23:04] <Shroom> I just died.
#2866 [23:04] <Shroom> While chatting
#2867 [23:04] <froglegstew> VoxelHead:any suggestions?
#2868 [23:05] <Ketsueki> Shroom: Ahoo (or however fool in japanese is spelled)
#2869 [23:05] <\x00> Shroom, let me tell you why I am afraid of minecraft.
#2870 [23:05] <Ketsueki> Endermen can teleport behind you
#2871 [23:05] <Ketsueki> /anything/ teleporting behind you is bad.
#2872 [23:05] <\x00> Because I admin a server and I don't frequently give up
#2873 [23:06] <\x00> plus experimental plugins and Bukkit ports
#2874 [23:06] <Ketsueki> It's like that one troll joke about WoW and high level mobs being able to teleport behind players they just ganked and do it again right when they login...
#2875 [23:06] <\x00> and thousands of lines of bash shell
#2876 [23:06] <Ketsueki> \x00: Creepers invasion?
#2877 [23:06] <\x00> let me tell you something shroom
#2878 [23:06] <\x00> I am burning my eyes out
#2879 [23:07] <Ketsueki> Also, \x00 'thousands of lines of shell' is far past the time to turn it in and use /any/ other scripting language. Take your pick of python, perl, or even php if you just have to.
#2880 [23:07] <\x00> no
#2881 [23:07] <\x00> Ketsueki, I don't mean bash scripting
#2882 [23:07] <\x00> I just mean bash shell.
#2883 [23:07] <Ketsueki> \x00: Oh, the shell isn't scary at all
#2884 [23:07] <\x00> It isnt, but I'm burning out my eyes.
#2885 [23:07] <Ketsueki> It's more powerful than industrialcraft
#2886 [23:08] <\x00> I spend somewhere around 16 hours online. 6 sleeping, 2 hours downtime
#2887 [23:08] <Ketsueki> \x00: What do you have a black text on white BG console?
#2888 [23:08] <\x00> White on black
#2889 [23:08] <Ketsueki> Oh, you're looking at the monitor for too long.
#2890 [23:08] <\x00> Needs more amber monochrome
#2891 [23:08] <Shroom> Rebuilding my cave now.
#2892 [23:09] <Ketsueki> You need to schedule breaks every 45 min for eye-excercises and looking outside. Preferably something like looking between a distant tree and a close potted plant.
#2893 [23:09] <Shroom> I'm hosting my own server.
#2894 [23:09] <Shroom> But I'm not THAT into it. lol
#2895 [23:09] <Ketsueki> Same here (currently IC2)
#2896 [23:09] <\x00> Shroom: The thing with hosting a server is custom server wrappers and plugins.
#2897 [23:09] <\x00> And Ketsueki, speaking of IC, is it updated for 1.8.1?
#2898 [23:09] <\x00> Or was that discontinued?
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#2900 [23:10] <In_Need_Of_Help> So I can get support here?
#2901 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> In #minecrafthelp? Never!
#2902 [23:11] <In_Need_Of_Help> Aww too bad.
#2903 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> This channel's reserved for My Little Pony discussions
#2904 [23:11] <froglegstew> anybody know how to fix an error in DNS thanks to pirating?
#2905 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> froglegstew - Give us a copy of your hosts file?
#2906 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> ??> froglegstew win/hosts
#2907 [23:11] <VoxelHead> froglegstew: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#2908 [23:12] <VoxelHead> froglegstew: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#2909 [23:12] <In_Need_Of_Help> Because it was named Minecrafthelp
#2910 [23:12] <In_Need_Of_Help> Lolwut
#2911 [23:12] <\x00> In_Need_Of_Help: Hello
#2912 [23:12] <Wug> where does it hurt
#2913 [23:12] * Wug brandishes a bone saw
#2913 [23:12] <Wug> and a gas powered drill
#2914 [23:13] <In_Need_Of_Help> Tried to use Mods, downloaded a Modloader and put into the minecraft.jar. Game wouldnt let me log in
#2915 [23:13] <\x00> In_Need_Of_Help: Decompile your client and fill the java files with null pointers
#2916 [23:13] <\x00> That will fix the problem
#2917 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> In_Need_Of_Help - Go to your launcher, go into the options menu, hit "Force Update"
#2918 [23:13] <Wug> dont troll
#2919 [23:13] <In_Need_Of_Help> Still can't log in, after reinstalling and trying to update.
#2920 [23:13] <froglegstew> I did that, and nobody responded
#2921 [23:13] <Wug> reenter the password?
#2922 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> In_Need_Of_Help - Go to your .minecraft folder, delete everything but the saves folder. Next time you log in, it should redownload everything
#2923 [23:14] <Ketsueki> \x00: IC2 not IC; IC was retired, IC2 is updated, 1.23 is out now
#2924 [23:14] <\x00> In_Need_Of_Help: What happens when you try to log in?
#2925 [23:14] <froglegstew> It's the pastebin file post higher up on the post
#2926 [23:14] <In_Need_Of_Help> It says I can't log in, basically.
#2927 [23:14] <Wug> froglegstew: hosts file is cleam
#2928 [23:14] <\x00> "Failed to log in"?
#2929 [23:14] <Wug> redownload the launcher
#2930 [23:14] <In_Need_Of_Help> Yeah.
#2931 [23:15] <\x00> Well it probably isn't the login server, seeing as how that doesnt run on a potato
#2932 [23:15] <Wug> or find whatever directions you used to pirate it and undo them in reverse order
#2933 [23:15] <\x00> In_Need_Of_Help: Try a few more times. Has it worked when you force updated, before reinstalling?
#2934 [23:15] <froglegstew> then do you have any other idea as to why the .exe file doesn't do anything when I try to run it?
#2935 [23:15] <In_Need_Of_Help> Didn't pirate.
#2936 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> froglegstew - What do you mean, "it doesn't do anything"?
#2937 [23:15] <Wug> \x00: you wouldnt know that by its uptime -.-
#2938 [23:16] <Wug> In_Need_Of_Help: I w2as talking to froglegstew
#2939 [23:16] <\x00> Wug: It was more sarcasm, potatoes have terrible uptime.
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#2941 [23:16] <Wug> so do the minecraft auth servers
#2942 [23:16] <\x00> They're decent at maintaining ramdisks after poweroff if you keep them heavily underclocked
#2943 [23:16] <\x00> but not much else
#2944 [23:17] <In_Need_Of_Help> Redownloaded exe, attempted to log in, log in failed, clicked force update, tried again, fail to log in
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#2946 [23:17] <Wug> anyway
#2947 [23:17] <\x00> In_Need_Of_Help: So you cant log in regardless of the mod?
#2948 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> In_Need_Of_Help - Is the exact error you're getting, "login failed"?
#2949 [23:17] <froglegstew> I mean it asks me if I'm sure I want to run, as every .exe does for the first time, and when I click yes, that screen disappears as it should, but then nothing happens. And I've already completely removed minecraft from my computer
#2950 [23:17] <Wug> In_Need_Of_Help: go here and tell us what it says: https://login.minecraft.net/
#2951 [23:17] <In_Need_Of_Help> Yessir
#2952 [23:17] <In_Need_Of_Help> K
#2953 [23:17] <froglegstew> I thought it was a Java problem, but I reinstalled and updated Java and that didnt help
#2954 [23:17] <Wug> froglegstew: redownload the launcher
#2955 [23:18] <Ketsueki> I had to try like 10 times to login tonight.
#2956 [23:18] <In_Need_Of_Help> Whelp, I'll try from scratch then I guess?
#2957 [23:19] <quiggle> When i try to log in it tells me that i have not downloaded it. And I remember Very clearly paying $20 for it. any suggestions?
#2958 [23:19] <Wug> I don't understand why everyone's having trouble, I have never had issues logging in
#2959 [23:19] <Wug> even when people were experiencing widespread issues
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#2961 [23:19] <Wug> maybe I'm ust lucky
#2962 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> quiggle - The issue is not that you haven't downloaded it. The issue is that you're not able to log in successfully for the launcher to download its files.
#2963 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> quiggle - What is the exact error you're getting?
#2964 [23:19] <Wug> quiggle: did you pirate it before
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#2966 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> If he pirated it, he wouldn't get "not downloaded"
#2967 [23:20] <guest-417790-31878> what the fuck?
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#2970 [23:20] <Wug> ^ indeed
#2971 [23:20] <froglegstew> I redownloaded the launcher. Didn't help
#2972 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> froglegstew - Login failed means you're entering the username/password in wrong. Can you log into the website?
#2973 [23:20] <Wug> froglegstew: account name
#2974 [23:20] <In_Need_Of_Help> Well, in the first place, I used 7zip to and added a modloader to the minecraft.jar, same for an audiomod. I tried to log in, but it said Failed to Log In
#2975 [23:21] <quiggle> no, when i log in it says below the bottom oval (Not downloaded) Its been working the last few weeks, however, thats whats wierd
#2976 [23:21] <\x00> In_Need_Of_Help, what happened when you logged in on the site?
#2977 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> quiggle - Which one of these errors are you getting? http://i.imgur.com/V1pYh.png
#2978 [23:21] <In_Need_Of_Help> Everything was normal
#2979 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Now downloaded is not the error you're getting
#2980 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Not&
#2981 [23:21] <\x00> Hm.
#2982 [23:21] <\x00> In_Need_Of_Help, could be a DNS issue
#2983 [23:21] <In_Need_Of_Help> So how can I fix that?
#2984 [23:21] <Wug> In_Need_Of_Help: craft a url of the following format: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=<username>&password=<password>&version=13
#2985 [23:22] <froglegstew> I am logged in to my account just fine, that's not the issue
#2986 [23:22] <quiggle> The first one
#2987 [23:22] <\x00> In_Need_Of_Help: Windows button + R
#2988 [23:22] <\x00> type cmd.exe, type ipconfig /flushdns
#2989 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> quiggle - Login failed?
#2990 [23:22] <quiggle> Ya.
#2991 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> quiggle - Login failed means you're entering your username/password in wrong
#2992 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> Try logging into the website
#2993 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> If that works, do a password change using the profile page
#2994 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> It'll work then
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#2996 [23:23] <quiggle> But ive used the "remember password thing and have been able to use the single and multiplayer modes
#2997 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> Please do it
#2998 [23:23] <In_Need_Of_Help> So it said Bad Login, after entering that URL with my info.
#2999 [23:23] <quiggle> oh. ill try it. Thanks
#3000 [23:23] <Wug> In_Need_Of_Help: can you login to the website
#3001 [23:24] <froglegstew> I flushed DNS, and it still isn't doing anything
#3002 [23:24] <Wug> if you can, change your password (you can even change it to the same thing)
#3003 [23:24] <Wug> if you cant recover it
#3004 [23:25] <In_Need_Of_Help> Yeah, now it wont let me log into the website
#3005 [23:25] <In_Need_Of_Help> Just now
#3006 [23:26] <froglegstew> anything other than DNS that could be preventing me from downloading Minecraft? Could my username be flagged for pirating?
#3007 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> Probably not -
#3008 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> froglegstew - Tell us exactly what's happening from the moment you launch the program
#3009 [23:27] <In_Need_Of_Help> So change my password?
#3010 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> In_Need_Of_Help - Yes. You can change it to the same password if you wish
#3011 [23:27] <froglegstew> I can't launch the program at all, that's my problem
#3012 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> froglegstew - The launcher doesn't run at all? You don't get the news window?
#3013 [23:28] <In_Need_Of_Help> Hang on.. I just tried to log in again, and it worked after I did it a second time
#3014 [23:29] <froglegstew> I paid the 22 bucks, got my confirmation email, my account is marked as premium, but when I run the download exe from mincraft.net/download, it doesn'tdo anything at all. When I try to play in browser, it says failed to launch, and gives me an error, but I can;t read the whole thing, because it runs off screen
#3015 [23:29] <In_Need_Of_Help> So I should just re-install the exe and the files?
#3016 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> froglegstew - Do you get any error reports, as files named hs_err_pid?
#3017 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> In_Need_Of_Help - Yes
#3018 [23:29] <In_Need_Of_Help> Alright then
#3019 [23:30] <froglegstew> nope. It just doesn't do anything at all
#3020 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> froglegstew - Alright then. let's try this:
#3021 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> froglegstew - Go to minecraft.net/download, click on "Show all platforms". Do you see minecraft.jar? download it to a folder on your desktop
#3022 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> In that same folder, you'll make a new text file. Go into it, paste in as the first line: java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#3023 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Put in "pause" without quotes into the second line. Go up to file -> save as. Save it as any name that ends in .bat
#3024 [23:32] <In_Need_Of_Help> Still Failed to Log in.
#3025 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> Make sure to go to file types, and mark it as all files, instead of txt
#3026 [23:32] <GreyVulpine> In_Need_Of_Help - Could you post a screenshot of that error to imgur.com and give us the URL to it?
#3027 [23:33] <Wug> :tv > froglegstew
#3028 [23:33] <ExperimentalWugBot> froglegstew: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#3029 [23:33] <ExperimentalWugBot> froglegstew: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /pm user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#3030 [23:33] <ExperimentalWugBot> froglegstew: (tv) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#3031 [23:33] <Wug> oops, old config
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#3033 [23:34] <In_Need_Of_Help> http://imgur.com/8ICHu
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#3035 [23:34] <Wug> In_Need_Of_Help: does you password have special characters in it
#3036 [23:34] <Wug> like, anything thats not alphanumeric
#3037 [23:34] <In_Need_Of_Help> Nope
#3038 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Did you try changing your password?
#3039 [23:35] <In_Need_Of_Help> Nope
#3040 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Could you do that now?
#3041 [23:35] <In_Need_Of_Help> Yep
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#3043 [23:35] <Wug> In_Need_Of_Help: follow the teamviewer instructions, I might be able to do something for it
#3044 [23:36] <mib_s8qzi9> Hello can you help me?
#3045 [23:36] <|Kiikun|Janus|> sorry for the peerage o.o; *setting up vpn*
#3046 [23:36] <froglegstew> did all that, and it correctly created a batch file, but it still wont run the .jar
#3047 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Did a black command prompt open up?
#3048 [23:37] <In_Need_Of_Help> K, Changed my password.
#3049 [23:37] <In_Need_Of_Help> I'll try again.
#3050 [23:38] <Wug> froglegstew: follow the teamviewer instructions
#3051 [23:38] <froglegstew> im doing that now. want me to send you the info?
#3052 [23:38] <Wug> yes
#3053 [23:39] <mib_s8qzi9> minecraft is logging in but only shows black screen when i select the game
#3054 [23:39] <mib_s8qzi9> PLEASE HELP ME
#3055 [23:39] <mib_s8qzi9> :(
#3056 [23:40] <mib_s8qzi9> ?
#3057 [23:41] <froglegstew> pm'd you
#3058 [23:41] <froglegstew> Wug
#3059 [23:41] <Wug> mib_s8qzi9: does it only work for one world or is it all of them
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#3063 [23:57] <Kongregofftopic> Hey there. If I have the video driver Intel® 82915G/82910GL Express Chipset Family is there any way to play Minecraft? Even updated, it can't support the OpenGL mode needed.
#3064 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have?
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#3066 [23:59] <Kongregofftopic> I'll have to check.
#3067 [23:59] <Shroom> Does stone respawn?
#3068 [23:59] <Shroom> Cause I'm lost in this cave.
#3069 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> No
#3070 [23:59] <Shroom> :L
#3071 [23:59] <Shroom> It's a dang endless cave.