#1 [00:00] <Kongregofftopic> 1.99 GB of RAM
#2 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Kongregofftopic - Could you try launching minecraft via the .jar and a .bat file? Intel chipsets normally siphon off a chunk of RAM to do 3d acceleration. Minecraft tries to reserve up to a gig of RAM for itself
#3 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Instructions on how to do that are here: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#4 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Also, from where did you attempt to update the drivers from?
#5 [00:01] <Kongregofftopic> Thanks, I'll try that.
#6 [00:02] <Kongregofftopic> The Intel website
#7 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay.
#8 [00:02] <Shroom> lol Finally made it out. I swear this cave goes on forever.
#9 [00:02] <Shroom> I've laid down like 500 torches down there now
#10 [00:02] <Kongregofftopic> the driver is discontinued now, so that sucks. I did try modding it but I had to do a system restore because it screwed it all up.
#11 [00:05] <Kongregofftopic> I did it all, and this comes up. "Could not find the main class: net.Minecraft.Launcher.Frame
#12 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Did you download minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download?
#13 [00:05] <Kongregofftopic> Yeah.
#14 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Is the .bat file in the same place?
#15 [00:06] <Kongregofftopic> Yeah.
#16 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, it shouldn't be saying that then
#17 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Is it named exactly, "minecraft.jar"
#18 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> You're not using minecraft.jar from your .minecraft/bin/ folder, right?
#19 [00:07] <Kongregofftopic> it is named minecraft_server
#20 [00:07] <Kongregofftopic> Could that be the problem
#21 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> Wrong file
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#23 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> Click on "Show all platforms"
#24 [00:07] <Kongregofftopic> It is listed as an executable jar file
#25 [00:07] <Kongregofftopic> Okay.
#26 [00:08] <Kongregofftopic> Sorry, but where is that?
#27 [00:08] <Wug> <Kongregofftopic> I did it all, and this comes up. "Could not find the main class: net.Minecraft.Launcher.Frame
#28 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> at minecraft.net/download?
#29 [00:08] <Wug> net.minecraft.LauncherFrame (only 2 dots)
#30 [00:08] <Wug> try again with the correct name
#31 [00:09] <Kongregofftopic> Yeah, that it what it says.
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#33 [00:09] <Gazionetadmin> hey is there going to be a 1.10 still?
#34 [00:09] <Wug> potentially
#35 [00:09] <Gazionetadmin> whats that mean?
#36 [00:09] <Gazionetadmin> what about a 1.9
#37 [00:09] <Wug> I'm not sure if they'll keep the same naming scheme after the official release
#38 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Kongregofftopic - Do you see a "Show all platforms" link at minecraft.net/download?
#39 [00:10] <Wug> and 1.9 will be the public release
#40 [00:10] <Shroom> Wouldn't 2.0 be after 1.9?
#41 [00:10] <Shroom> lol
#42 [00:10] <Kongregofftopic> Yeah, I do.
#43 [00:10] <Gazionetadmin> so you mean full version
#44 [00:10] <Kongregofftopic> I am on Windows though so I don't see the problem.
#45 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Kongregofftopic - Click on that, and download the minecraft.jar there
#46 [00:10] <Gazionetadmin> is there going to be prerelease 5 of 1.9?
#47 [00:10] <Wug> GreyVulpine: just have him use the exe
#48 [00:10] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#48 [00:11] <Wug> Gazionetadmin: maybe
#49 [00:11] <Wug> the exe works fine in place of the jar
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#51 [00:11] <Kongregofftopic> Hmm.
#52 [00:11] <Wug> if you really feel like it, you can rename it to .jar
#53 [00:11] <Wug> probably better to just leave it
#54 [00:11] <Gazionetadmin> hey why do they bother releaseing prereleases?
#55 [00:12] <Wug> Gazionetadmin: to keep us occupied and to find bugs
#56 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> Because people have been asking for it
#57 [00:12] <Gazionetadmin> xD
#58 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> Also, "nightly releases"
#59 [00:12] <Kongregofftopic> The problem is that my video driver can't work on the exe, even updated.
#60 [00:12] <Gazionetadmin> whats that
#61 [00:12] <Gazionetadmin> is notch going to release expansion packs
#62 [00:12] <Gazionetadmin> and will they cost money?
#63 [00:13] <Wug> Gazionetadmin: potentially eventually
#64 [00:13] <Wug> asante sana squash banana
#65 [00:13] <Gazionetadmin> so he will keep making minecraft after full release?
#66 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#67 [00:13] <Wug> yeah, thats the idea
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#69 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> Kongregofftopic - Does that .bat file work now?
#70 [00:14] <Wug> it will probably get updated for quite a while after the official release
#71 [00:14] <Kongregofftopic> No, still the LauncherFrame error. I have no idea what that is though
#72 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Means it's not seeing minecraft.jar
#73 [00:16] <Kongregofftopic> I think I know what to do.
#74 [00:16] <Kongregofftopic> one sec...
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#76 [00:17] <Kongregofftopic> got it to the loading screen.
#77 [00:17] <Kongregofftopic> Wow, thank you a lot. You are amazing.
#78 [00:17] <Kongregofftopic> I have been screwing with this for four hours and that worked.
#79 [00:17] <Jckf> What the..? What happens to a creeper when lightning strikes it?
#80 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> All that means, is that your system doesn't have enough RAM to launch it with the .exe
#81 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> I recommend looking for more RAM, or a system upgrade/purchase in the near future
#82 [00:18] <Kongregofftopic> Ahhhh. Okay, thanks. From what I read it made it sound like my driver was the issue and it needed replacement.
#83 [00:18] <Kongregofftopic> Cheers!
#84 [00:18] <Chris> I believe creepers die when they're struck... not really sure though
#85 [00:18] <Jckf> I had one get some kind of blue energy envelop it
#86 [00:19] <Jckf> *around
#87 [00:19] <Chris> bahahaah I've never actually seen it :/
#88 [00:19] <Chris> sounds freaky
#89 [00:19] <clarjon1> lol
#90 [00:19] <clarjon1> they get supercharged when hit by lightning
#91 [00:19] <clarjon1> do more damage
#92 [00:19] <clarjon1> blow more stuff up
#93 [00:19] <Jckf> D=
#94 [00:21] <Shroom> They blew the heck out of my cave again.
#95 [00:21] <Shroom> :S
#96 [00:22] <Chris> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#97 [00:22] <GreyBot> Chris: It's just you. http://login.minecraft.net is up.
#98 [00:22] <Chris> hmmm...
#99 [00:22] <Chris> took me like 4 times to log in just then
#100 [00:22] <Jckf> Same here, but it failed instantly instead of timing out
#101 [00:33] <Shroom> I laid an iron door but it won't open. :(
#102 [00:33] <Shroom> But a wood one works fine in that spot
#103 [00:33] <Jckf> Remember that iron doors must be powered to open
#104 [00:33] <Jckf> You cannot use your hands
#105 [00:33] <Shroom> Oh.
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#107 [00:33] <Shroom> I'm a noob
#108 [00:33] <Shroom> >.>
#109 [00:34] <|Kiikun|> and a shroom..
#110 [00:34] <|Kiikun|> btw hi :P
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#115 [00:39] <Shroom> Drat. There is an explodey thing right outside my door and I don't want a huge hole in my cave wall again
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#117 [00:43] <|Kiikun|> Shroom: thats what running is for :P
#118 [00:43] <clarjon1> That's what having a second entrance is for
#119 [00:43] <|Kiikun|> that too
#120 [00:44] <clarjon1> and a water tunnel entrance
#121 [00:44] <|Kiikun|> or just having a roof you can jump off of :D
#122 [00:45] <Jckf> I've just made a huge cave, and dug a shaft down to bedrock
#123 [00:45] <Jckf> And I've found NO iron at all
#124 [00:45] <Jckf> -.-
#125 [00:46] <|Kiikun|> Jckf: wel.. take off your iron-repelling pantaloons!
#126 [00:46] <Jckf> Ah, right
#127 [00:46] <Jckf> Forgot I had those on
#128 [00:50] <Shroom> Dude.
#129 [00:50] <Shroom> I dug a huge cave...
#130 [00:50] <Shroom> And reached an endless underground cave
#131 [00:50] <Shroom> Tons of lava, and water.
#132 [00:50] <Shroom> Endless monsters.
#133 [00:51] <Shroom> Some gold, diamonds, bunch of iron, tons of coal
#134 [00:51] <Shroom> xD
#135 [00:51] <Shroom> Still not even explored it all
#136 [00:51] <Shroom> Now evening out the mountaintop I dug from.
#137 [00:51] <Shroom> And going to build a castle on it.
#138 [00:51] <Shroom> >.>
#139 [00:57] <Wug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfcNoMnKjrY
#140 [00:58] <Wug> I cried because it was so awesome
#141 [01:00] <Jckf> I like that whoever made this actually did "lip syncing"
#142 [01:01] <Wug> ikr
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#144 [01:06] <quiggle> i downloaded minecraft but cant find where the luncher is
#145 [01:06] <quiggle> helps
#146 [01:06] <VoxelHead> quiggle: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#147 [01:06] <Chris> aubot derp xD
#148 [01:06] <Chris> quiggle, are you on windows
#149 [01:06] <quiggle> win7
#150 [01:06] <|Kiikun|> quiggle: the launcher is the thing you downloaded. check your downloads directories
#151 [01:06] <quiggle> i did
#152 [01:06] <quiggle> coul it be cuz i am in private browsing?
#153 [01:06] <Jckf> Then redownload to somewhere you know
#154 [01:07] <|Kiikun|> desktop? porn directories? :P
#155 [01:07] <Jckf> It's not a big file
#156 [01:07] <quiggle> i dont nw how
#157 [01:07] <quiggle> ok ill try agian
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#159 [01:07] <quiggle> but i wana find whrer its at
#160 [01:07] <|Kiikun|> quiggle: you COULD also open the downloads window in your browser
#161 [01:07] <quiggle> is there a folder for firefox downloads?
#162 [01:07] <|Kiikun|> press ctrl+j
#163 [01:08] <Jckf> We are as much help to you for finding that file as we are to help you find your TV remote
#164 [01:08] <|Kiikun|> that will tell you where
#165 [01:08] <quiggle> umm
#166 [01:08] <|Kiikun|> in firefox
#167 [01:08] <Jckf> And Chrome
#168 [01:08] <quiggle> ok ill try agian
#169 [01:08] <|Kiikun|> or open tools menu :P
#170 [01:08] <quiggle> it wont let me save file
#171 [01:09] <quiggle> what if i download with xplore?
#172 [01:09] <|Kiikun|> <.< what is it saying that it wont let you download it?
#173 [01:09] <|Kiikun|> and you can try internet exploiter if you want
#174 [01:10] <Jckf> I don't think Internet Explorer has a downloads history
#175 [01:10] <quiggle> ok i tried with it let me see if its there
#176 [01:10] * |Kiikun| checks!
#176 [01:10] <quiggle> YAY
#177 [01:10] <quiggle> it works
#178 [01:10] <quiggle> but where is the minecraft folder?
#179 [01:10] <Jckf> In %appdata%
#180 [01:10] <quiggle> i cant find it at %appdata%
#181 [01:11] <Jckf> It's named ".minecraft"
#182 [01:11] <Jckf> Remember the dot
#183 [01:11] <|Kiikun|> quiggle: you run the client. it downloads the game files to %appdata%/.minecraft
#184 [01:11] <Chris> Windows+R %appdata%\.minecraft\
#185 [01:11] <|Kiikun|> /.. \.. whatever :P
#186 [01:11] <Chris> haha
#187 [01:11] <Chris> windows = derp
#188 [01:11] <Shroom> Does my server save if I just X out of it?
#189 [01:12] <Chris> yep
#190 [01:12] <Chris> actually
#191 [01:12] <|Kiikun|> Shroom: yes but its nicer to type stop :P
#192 [01:12] <Chris> it may corrupt but usually
#193 [01:12] <Shroom> Don't want to lose all my work. lol
#194 [01:12] <Shroom> Reshaping a mountain isn't fun.
#195 [01:12] <Shroom> xD
#196 [01:12] <Chris> 24/7 servers <3
#197 [01:12] <Chris> xD
#198 [01:13] <quiggle> so what do i type in run?
#199 [01:13] <quiggle> What
#200 [01:13] <Shroom> Gotta give my computer a rest tonight. It's been on for like 2 weeks now.
#201 [01:13] <Shroom> lol
#202 [01:13] <Jckf> quiggle: %appdata%\.minecraft
#203 [01:13] <quiggle> not comming up
#204 [01:13] <Jckf> Error message?
#205 [01:13] <quiggle> and appdata , theres no .minecraft folder there
#206 [01:14] <quiggle> goddam
#207 [01:14] <|Kiikun|> quiggle: did you run and log in with the client yet?
#208 [01:14] <quiggle> the what?
#209 [01:14] <quiggle> oh yeah
#210 [01:14] <quiggle> let me see lol
#211 [01:14] * |Kiikun| prepares the fish...
#211 [01:15] <quiggle> yes but not in the luncher
#212 [01:15] <quiggle> its not letting me
#213 [01:15] <Jckf> Retry until it does
#214 [01:15] <|Kiikun|> quiggle: whats not letting you? what message does it give?
#215 [01:15] <|Kiikun|> or are servers down again...
#216 [01:16] <quiggle> one sec
#217 [01:16] <Jckf> No, they're just unstable
#218 [01:16] <quiggle> i am not on admin
#219 [01:16] <Jckf> o_O
#220 [01:16] <|Kiikun|> . . .
#221 [01:16] <Jckf> Should not matter
#222 [01:17] <quiggle> when i go to properties it says file is blocking
#223 [01:17] <|Kiikun|> you shouldnt need to be...
#224 [01:17] <quiggle> unblick
#225 [01:17] <quiggle> unblock
#226 [01:17] <quiggle> should i click that?
#227 [01:17] <Jckf> Yes
#228 [01:18] <quiggle> lol it worked
#229 [01:18] <quiggle> i just had to log in
#230 [01:18] <quiggle> :)
#231 [01:18] <quiggle> sweet
#232 [01:19] <quiggle> thanks guy
#233 [01:19] <quiggle> guys
#234 [01:19] <quiggle> THANKS
#235 [01:19] <quiggle> bye
#236 [01:19] <|Kiikun|> np :P *continues juggling silicon*
#237 [01:19] <quiggle> :)
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#239 [01:24] <mib_ge0ygb> back
#240 [01:24] <mib_ge0ygb> hey why does minecraft need to redownload every fucking time i open it?
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#243 [01:25] <mib_7pmwmz> wow i got rage kicked , anyways minecraft reownloads every time i open it
#244 [01:25] <mib_7pmwmz> redownloads*
#245 [01:26] <mib_7pmwmz> ..
#246 [01:26] <Wug> I have a feeling that your antivirus is doing it
#247 [01:26] <Wug> what a waste of a sentence
#248 [01:26] <Wug> if you're going to bug us at 1:30am, be f*cking patient
#249 [01:27] <|Kiikun|> agreed!
#250 [01:27] * Wug rants at nobody in particulat
#250 [01:27] <Wug> r*
#251 [01:27] <|Kiikun|> mmm... particulate
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#253 [01:28] <mib_s7vz65> my game wont start, when i click on in browser start, the screen is just blank
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#255 [01:30] <Wug> god damnit
#256 [01:30] <Wug> every time I start typing something
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#258 [01:37] <Sqozza> Since I'm lazy and stuff
#259 [01:38] <Sqozza> do mobs (friendly) respawn in 1.9pre 4?
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#261 [01:38] <Wug> I have no idea
#262 [01:38] <Wug> but I'd assume so
#263 [01:38] <|Kiikun|> they dont despawn at all. they spawn RARELY outside of spawnign with chunks
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#265 [01:39] <candyblue> how does mulitplayer work?
#266 [01:39] <|Kiikun|> candyblue: it works well :P
#267 [01:39] <|Kiikun|> usually
#268 [01:39] <candyblue> how do i play it?
#269 [01:39] <candyblue> i'm using prerelease
#270 [01:39] <|Kiikun|> buy minecraft and connect to a server
#271 [01:39] <Wug> candyblue: hit the multiplayer button and the direct connect button
#272 [01:40] <|Kiikun|> :P
#273 [01:40] <candyblue> then what?
#274 [01:40] <Wug> enter the address of a server in the box
#275 [01:40] <candyblue> it keeps saying outdated server
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#277 [01:40] <candyblue> whats that mean/
#278 [01:40] <|Kiikun|> candyblue: measn THEY arnt runnign prerelease
#279 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> You're trying to enter a server that isn't running the pre-release
#280 [01:40] <Wug> with the prerelease client you can only connect to prerelease servers
#281 [01:40] <Jckf> Haha
#282 [01:40] <candyblue> where can i find servers?
#283 [01:40] <Wug> #smp
#284 [01:40] <|Kiikun|> ??> candyblue smp/servers
#285 [01:40] <VoxelHead> candyblue: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#286 [01:40] <VoxelHead> candyblue: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#287 [01:42] <candyblue> oh oaky
#288 [01:43] <candyblue> how do i know if they are prerelease or not?
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#291 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> It'll say what version they're running.
#292 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> Take: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/45-minecraft-beta-survival-servers/
#293 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> Most of the servers there, say 1.8.1
#294 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/684921-minecraft-19-prerelease-4-vanilla-server-whitelist/
#295 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> This one says pre-release 4.
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#297 [01:52] <thatguythr> I am currently being plagued by the java.socket error recv failed error on the server I play on. I have gone through and increased my buffer sizes on my LAN drivers, I have updated my LAN drivers and I am currently still unable to play online with any consistency, any further help available?
#298 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> Does it happen on that server only, or every server you try?
#299 [01:52] <thatguythr> All servers I have tried
#300 [01:53] <Jckf> thatguythr: Had a friend who was plagued by that. Fixed by changing the ethernet card =/
#301 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Do you run any security software with a firewall component?
#302 [01:54] <thatguythr> Yes, I made all of the adjustments necessary in the firewall
#303 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> What firewall do you run?
#304 [01:54] <thatguythr> Norton
#305 [01:54] <Jckf> -.-
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#307 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Are you confident that Norton is allowing traffic from java through correctly?
#308 [01:55] <thatguythr> let me take one last look, but I am almost certain
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#310 [01:59] <thatguythr> Everything is ok, plus, even with it disabled the problem persists
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#312 [02:00] <Jckf> Is there a mod channel?
#313 [02:01] <thatguythr> not that I am aware of
#314 [02:02] <Ryladine> What do you mean by mod channel?
#315 [02:02] <Ryladine> A channel for support with mods?
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#317 [02:02] <Jckf> Not necessarily support, but discussion yeah
#318 [02:02] <Ryladine> You could try #risucraft
#319 [02:03] <|Kiikun|> and the mcp channels
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#321 [02:11] <Wug> kealper:
#322 [02:11] <Wug> derp
#323 [02:11] <Wug> weird, it worked this time
#324 [02:11] <Wug> last time it showed up as ヽ( ﾟヮ ｡)ノ
#325 [02:12] <mauC> they look the same to me...
#326 [02:13] <Thrae> Wug: Looks the same to me
#327 [02:13] <Wug> huh
#328 [02:14] <Wug> the first one is ok, but the second shows up as poorly parsed unicode garbage text
#329 [02:14] <|Kiikun|> looks fine here too
#330 [02:15] <Wug> perhaps a derp of the client
#331 [02:15] <mauC> mhm.
#332 [02:15] * Wug doesnt really like pchat
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#341 [03:40] <mattyb> hi therecould any 1help me plz
#342 [03:40] <Calinou> yes
#343 [03:40] <Calinou> ask your question
#344 [03:41] <mattyb> i havemine craft but when i run it it get stuck downloading pakages
#345 [03:41] <Calinou> ...what is your operating system, what is your java version, what is your graphics card and are its drivers up to date?
#346 [03:41] <Calinou> I need more information to help you. ;)
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#348 [03:42] <mattyb> xp javau up to datecard fine i had this problem b4 cantremember how to fix
#349 [03:43] <SinZ> disable anti-virus, try again
#350 [03:43] <Thrae> mattyb: Usually getting "stuck" involves Anti-Virus or Internet Protection software
#351 [03:43] <SinZ> lwjgl gives false positive to AVG, and macaffe
#352 [03:43] <Thrae> Yep, and others
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#354 [03:44] <mattyb> ok im pretty surei haveno anti virus
#355 [03:44] <Thrae> Not a good idea to run Windows without Anti-Virus
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#357 [03:45] <mattyb> yh i know buti have a dongle and like imonly using it to get minecrafton my laptop
#358 [03:46] <Thrae> Is there a problem with your keyboard?
#359 [03:46] <Thrae> mattyb: Follow these instructions to do a Clean Boot -- http://www.freebits.co.uk/cleanboot.html
#360 [03:46] <mattyb> yh space abit sticky
#361 [03:47] <mattyb> il let u know
#362 [03:47] <Thrae> I don't understand how your spacebar being sticky prevents you from typing "y-e-s", but OK
#363 [03:48] <mattyb> im lost lol
#364 [03:51] <mattyb> look i know that isnt goingto work it was a simple thing i just cant remember what took me days on the web trying to find answer
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#366 [03:56] <Thrae> mattyb: Follow those instructions and we can help you further.
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#377 [04:44] <SinZ> `mcping smp.mca.d3s.co:32767
#378 [04:44] <SinZBot> D3 SMP (0/20)
#379 [04:45] <SinZ> ah, +c
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#382 [04:59] <Crii> *wink*
#383 [05:00] <Crii> Hello again
#384 [05:00] * Silent_Samurai points finger accusingly!
#384 [05:00] <Silent_Samurai> I SAW THAT
#385 [05:02] <Crii> I have a qestion, because Minecraft is not opening. The Error says: The registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime is corrupted. System could not find the way to Java.
#386 [05:02] <Crii> Does anyone know, what to do?
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#388 [05:08] <SweCrow> Install Java (again)
#389 [05:08] <SweCrow> maybe
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#391 [05:09] <Silent_Samurai> Well if it says "installation or the runtime is corrupted."
#392 [05:09] <Silent_Samurai> Then yeah reinstalling seems the way to go.
#393 [05:09] <SweCrow> http://java.com/sv/download/index.jsp
#394 [05:13] <Crii> Ii did, it msas there is a java on my comuter and it can not install again :(
#395 [05:13] <Crii> sry for my horrible english
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#397 [05:15] <Crii> On minecraft.net i could play, there it founds java ._.
#398 [05:19] <conormc31> hi i have an older latop. i want to purchase minecraft. only it will not do refunds if it does not work on my laptop. what is the minimum requirements needed. i have windows xp home edition. 704 ram and 1.5 ghz processor. will this manage or what is the minium i need to . thnks conormc31
#399 [05:20] <Crii> Do i need a special way to java on my sysem? It is installed under: C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7
#400 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> We don't recommend java 7 for minecraft. It has been known to be incompatible for some
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#402 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> conormc31 - You can try the demo for minecraft at:
#403 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> ??> conormc31 demo
#404 [05:21] <VoxelHead> conormc31: (demo) Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#405 [05:21] <VoxelHead> conormc31: (demo) The Direct Download link is available here: http://dl.pcgamer.com/minecraft_pcgdemo.exe
#406 [05:21] <GreyVulpine> Crii - Try uninstalling java completely from your system, and install java 6. You can find it here:
#407 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> ??> Crii http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#408 [05:22] <Crii> Thanks for Help Grey - im Trying
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#410 [05:22] <GreyVulpine> Good luck.
#411 [05:23] <Crii> One more: How can i open the registry? I need to typ in what in this windos-thing?
#412 [05:23] <conormc31> thankyou for your help i will check it out at the weekend.
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#416 [05:38] <Bonez305> hello
#417 [05:38] <Bonez305> is there anyway i can speed up my minecraft client other than tweaking options ?
#418 [05:39] <rymate1234> get optifine
#419 [05:39] <rymate1234> then you have more options to tweak lol
#420 [05:41] <Bonez305> alright
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#422 [05:42] <matty> hi there could any 1 help meplease
#423 [05:44] <matty> hello
#424 [05:45] <Crii> My Question now is, do i Need Java Version 6 Update 29 in Version 32Bit or 64Bit ?
#425 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> Crii - Depends on whether you're using a 32 or 64 bit java
#426 [05:45] <GreyVulpine> er, operating system
#427 [05:45] <Crii> Im using 64 as opterating system
#428 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll want 64 bit java
#429 [05:46] <Crii> so i have to install java 64 bit.
#430 [05:53] <matty> hi there could some 1 help me please
#431 [05:54] <Bonez305> matty just ask, dont ask to ask lol
#432 [05:54] <Bonez305> and someone "should" be able to help you
#433 [05:55] <matty> well im getin syuck downloading pak=ckages and then i get fatal error 4 i had this prob on a diff comp but forgot how to fix
#434 [05:56] <matty> :P
#435 [05:56] <Bonez305> maybe that'll help ?
#436 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> matty - Have you tried going to your .minecraft folder, deleting everything inside except for saves?
#437 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> Once you launch minecraft again, it'll redownload all the game files
#438 [05:57] <matty> in appdatta
#439 [05:58] <GreyVulpine> Yes, in %appdata%
#440 [05:59] <matty> dosnt work anyother ideas
#441 [06:00] <matty> it wasnt that last time either
#442 [06:00] <GreyVulpine> What is the exact error you're getting?
#443 [06:01] <matty> i tell you soon it freezes on retieving lwjgl jar %7
#444 [06:02] <matty> then after a wile i get fatal error 4
#445 [06:04] <matty> i remeber no 1 being able 2 help me here last time took me days to find out wat to do it was so simple
#446 [06:07] <GreyVulpine> Betting it's your security software blocking minecraft
#447 [06:08] <matty> i dont think i have any only using dongle temp to download mine craft
#448 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> No idea what you mean by "dongle"
#449 [06:10] <matty> mobile interneton laptop
#450 [06:13] <matty> i got the error
#451 [06:14] <matty> fatal error 4 connection reset retieving lwjgl jar %7 at 33.67kb/sec
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#453 [06:19] <matty> any clue
#454 [06:19] <GreyVulpine> Betting it's your security software
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#456 [06:20] <rymate1234> lol
#457 [06:20] <rymate1234> ye
#458 [06:23] <matty> iv just sedi have non
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#461 [06:26] <lemon-rev> matty what about downloading iwjgl by it self and putting that into minecraft folder ?
#462 [06:27] <matty> ok how how would i do that
#463 [06:28] <TheNoodle> http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#464 [06:28] <TheNoodle> ^
#465 [06:29] <matty> ok your guna have to paste that site it gets aborted
#466 [06:30] <TheNoodle> ...
#467 [06:30] <matty> page cannot be displayed
#468 [06:30] <TheNoodle> nope, on the phone.
#469 [06:31] <matty> ??
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#472 [06:32] <TheNoodle> I only have one hand because I'm on the phone, I'm not going to paste the contents of that file.
#473 [06:33] <matty> o ok np il just wait
#474 [06:33] <guest-752094-63885> +r
#475 [06:33] <lemon-rev> lol, please dont, too much but i did bookmark it thanks
#476 [06:33] <TheNoodle> :3
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#479 [06:37] <TheNoodle> http://pastie.org/2755435
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#482 [06:42] <matty> that didnt work#
#483 [06:43] <lemon-rev> matty see if the launcher will grab the rest of the files after ig file
#484 [06:43] <matty> ??
#485 [06:43] <lemon-rev> matty if you launch mc again what happens ?
#486 [06:44] <matty> the same thing
#487 [06:44] <lemon-rev> matty it should'nt be dowloading the file you just tryed to manually update your self
#488 [06:45] <matty> i just copied the file into bin got rid of old jar is that rite#
#489 [06:45] <lemon-rev> the file i thought we whre directing you to update was a dll file
#490 [06:46] <lemon-rev> http://pastie.org/2755435 < that ne
#491 [06:46] <lemon-rev> one*
#492 [06:46] <lemon-rev> so im mistaken sorry
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#495 [06:47] <mattyb> ok im bak
#496 [06:47] <Sardonicus> herp derp
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#498 [06:54] <Ida> Anyone here who can help me, my game doesnt work..
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#500 [07:01] <mattyb> can any help#
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#508 [07:19] <K2> my creative server keeps breaking on me
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#510 [07:20] <K2> getting this: http://pastebin.com/r1z81Eyy
#511 [07:20] <mib_1arc1k> I need help my game has crashed...
#512 [07:22] <Thrae> K2: Vanilla server or something like Bukkit?
#513 [07:22] <K2> vanilla
#514 [07:22] <K2> it's been running fine for a week or something
#515 [07:22] <Thrae> K2: Probably a corrupt world giving those NPE
#516 [07:23] <K2> i found this
#517 [07:23] <K2> http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/null_pointer_exception_on_server_1_8
#518 [07:23] <Thrae> K2: Yeah, I would have directed you towards MCEdit anyway. So go and try it out.
#519 [07:24] <K2> and do what, exactly
#520 [07:24] <K2> what am i looking for?
#521 [07:25] <K2> just random entities?
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#523 [07:26] <matty> hi could some 1 help meplz
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#525 [07:27] <Thrae> K2: Yeah, you want to remove large quantities of entities.
#526 [07:27] <mib_1arc1k> I need help to, my game has crashed...
#527 [07:27] <Thrae> matty: Were you the one here earlier with Minecraft just freezing during download?
#528 [07:27] <Thrae> mib_1arc1k: Paste the error report to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#529 [07:27] <matty> yh thats me
#530 [07:28] <Thrae> matty: Did you ever try a Diagnostic Startup?
#531 [07:28] <matty> talk me thru plz
#532 [07:28] <K2> i have pymclevel on the server, but i'm not familiar with using it, do you know what command to run to clean up the map?
#533 [07:28] <Thrae> K2: Nope, I'm only cursory familiar with MCEdit and Chunkster
#534 [07:28] <Thrae> And Chunkster wouldn't fix your problem most likely
#535 [07:29] <Thrae> matty: Go into MSCONFIG, select "Diagnostic Startup", Apply then OK, reboot, you're in Diagnostic Startup.
#536 [07:29] <mib_1arc1k> I dont get a error report...the screen just goes black...
#537 [07:29] <K2> i used pymclevel to remove xporbs from another server previously
#538 [07:29] <Thrae> K2: Never used the tool personally, but I'll keep it in mind to learn when I get the chance.
#539 [07:31] <matty> ok i have to restart my computer il be bak
#540 [07:35] <mib_1arc1k> Anyone who can help me??
#541 [07:36] <K2> oh hey
#542 [07:36] <K2> it removed 40000 entities
#543 [07:36] <Thrae> mib_1arc1k: OK, got any mods or texture packs loaded?
#544 [07:37] <K2> hey, it worked
#545 [07:37] <K2> thanks!
#546 [07:37] <mib_1arc1k> I had some texture packs but I deleted them when it crashed..but I didnt used thenm when it crashed
#547 [07:39] <Thrae> mib_1arc1k: Using Windows?
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#549 [07:39] <mib_1arc1k> yes windows 7
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#551 [07:42] <Thrae> ??> mib_1arc1k win/reinst/bat
#552 [07:42] <VoxelHead> mib_1arc1k: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
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#554 [07:42] <VoxelHead> mib_1arc1k: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
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#556 [07:43] <matty> still no luck :(
#557 [07:45] <Thrae> matty: OK, you're in Diagnostic Startup right now?
#558 [07:46] <matty> well no becousei cant connetct to internet in doagnostic
#559 [07:47] <Thrae> matty: Wait, if you can't connect to the Internet in Diagnostic Startup, and your problem is with Minecraft downloading packages off the Internet....
#560 [07:47] <matty> ok tell
#561 [07:47] <Thrae> Did Minecraft give an error saying it couldn't connect this time, a different error?
#562 [07:48] <matty> well iv never opendminecraft on this computer so it didnt loadat all
#563 [07:48] <Thrae> matty: What do you mean, "didn't load at all"? Does it give an error? What happens?
#564 [07:48] <matty> also if i dont update i get stuck on done loading
#565 [07:49] <matty> well i cant connect if myinternet down
#566 [07:49] <mib_1arc1k> Thrae: It didnt work...but in the screen i got up it said that the files couldnt be accessed because they are being used...
#567 [07:51] <Thrae> mib_1arc1k: Did you have Minecraft running at the time?
#568 [07:51] <mib_1arc1k> no
#569 [07:51] <Thrae> mib_1arc1k: Reboot and run the batch file again.
#570 [07:51] <Thrae> matty: Does it just sit there forever or does it give an error eventually?
#571 [07:52] <matty> i get fatal error 4 after a wile
#572 [07:53] <mib_1arc1k> ok...i try...if it doesnt work ill be back...my name is Ida so you know who it is...thanks...=)
#573 [07:54] <Thrae> matty: Hmm, did people already walk you through uninstalling Java and using JavaRa?
#574 [07:55] <matty> no iv litterly just instaled javer for firsttime for minecraft
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#576 [07:56] <matty> it dosnt work in browser either but clasic works
#577 [07:58] <Thrae> matty: Uninstall Java from Add/Remove Programs, then install "Windows x86 Offline" from WugBot's link --
#578 [07:58] <Thrae> :j
#579 [07:58] <ExperimentalWugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u27-download-440425.html (Java SE Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 27)
#580 [08:00] <Thrae> matty: Sorry the correct link is http://goo.gl/h2OEh
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#582 [08:03] <matty> ok i need to close to uninstal il be bak
#583 [08:04] <mArTi> hi !
#584 [08:05] <mArTi> when I try to connect to a friend's server, I get this error : http://d8.e-loader.net/o1xQmOZwSY.png . I can connect to other servers and some of my friends can connect to this server without any trouble. Running MacOSX 10.6.8 & last java update. Does anyone have an idea ? thanks :)
#585 [08:08] <Thrae> mArTi: Server running any mods? Are you?
#586 [08:10] <mArTi> Thrae: i'm not running any mods, and servers just has worldedit
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#588 [08:10] <Thrae> mArTi: Have them delete your player file on the server
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#590 [08:11] <matty> what 1 am i downloading agen
#591 [08:12] <mArTi> Thrae: they say they didn't
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#593 [08:12] <Thrae> mArTi: They didn't what?
#594 [08:12] <Thrae> matty: "Windows x86 Offline" from http://goo.gl/h2OEh
#595 [08:13] <mArTi> I'll ask them, wait a min :)
#596 [08:13] <mArTi> ok they've done it and now I can connect, many thanks Thrae :P
#597 [08:14] * Thrae nods to mArTi
#597 [08:14] <clarjon1> lol
#598 [08:14] <mArTi> so thanks and cya :)
#599 [08:14] <clarjon1> nice and cryptic
#600 [08:14] <clarjon1> "1"
#601 [08:14] <mArTi> yep
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#603 [08:14] <mArTi> strange
#604 [08:15] <Thrae> "1" probably is something Notch left in which equates to "true"
#605 [08:16] <Ida> Thrae: I didnt work...i reboot, used the link you gave me and now it said that it couldnt find files...
#606 [08:17] <Thrae> Ida: It probably deleted a few more files and just couldn't find the other ones, so go back into the launcher and let it re-download
#607 [08:19] <Ida> i have started the game a couple of times...most of the times its just black and nothing happens..but once i got the meny up, but when i click back to game..nothing happens
#608 [08:21] <Ida> i have started a new world and that world seems to work...
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#610 [08:23] <Thrae> Ida: So, same problem after it re-downloaded?
#611 [08:24] <Ida> yes...i had this problem before, but no one could help me so i deleted all my worlds and started over...and now its the same...
#612 [08:24] <Ida> seems like when i get to around 25 MB in my world it starts to have problems...
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#614 [08:26] <Thrae> Ida: Hmm, does it happen with SMP?
#615 [08:28] <Ida> Im a blondie and dont know much about computers...what is SMP??
#616 [08:29] <Thrae> Ida: Survival Multi-player, basically just joining someone else's server
#617 [08:30] <Ida> I have never tried multiplayer...doesnt understand how that works...
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#620 [08:31] <Thrae> !server
#621 [08:31] <Thrae> Ida: Download the Windows server, run it, then connect to 127.0.0.1
#622 [08:32] <Ida> ok...i try...
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#624 [08:33] <Jordan> Hey guys how do the Giftcodes work?
#625 [08:34] <Guest85805> Hey guyys how do the gift codes work?
#626 [08:34] <Thrae> ?? giftcode
#627 [08:34] <VoxelHead> giftcode: To redeem a gift code, go to http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp, log in, and enter the code. Enjoy!
#628 [08:35] <Thrae> Guest85805: Hope you didn't buy that gift code!
#629 [08:35] <Guest85805> Alright thank you lot. I mean my friend has bought me a gift code, will he get it and have to tell me it?
#630 [08:39] <Ida> Thrae: I connected to that and the game started and seems to work but its a new game now...
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#632 [08:40] <guest-0-09779> hello
#633 [08:41] <Thrae> Ida: OK, there should be a world folder wherever you copied Minecraft_Server.exe, you can copy the contents of your world within Saves into there (stop the server first!)
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#635 [08:42] <h> hi
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#637 [08:42] <Thrae> h: Please nick a different name -- /nick myname
#638 [08:42] <h> em deutsch?
#639 [08:42] <Thrae> English only
#640 [08:42] <h> emm deutsch?
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#642 [08:43] <h> ich hab eine frage?
#643 [08:43] <Ida> oki...i try...thanks for your paitents whit me Thrae...=)
#644 [08:43] <h> i have a question
#645 [08:43] <Thrae> English English English
#646 [08:43] <Thrae> Please change your nick -- /nick mynick
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#648 [08:44] <Thrae> bildramer: Ask your question
#649 [08:45] <bildramer> wait, what
#650 [08:45] <bildramer> oh, I'm just idling
#651 [08:45] <Thrae> bildramer: Oh sorry, read the hostmask wrong, other guy was p4FCE55DF.dip.t-dialin.net
#652 [08:45] <Thrae> Maybe you can talk to your Deutschland brother when he comes back
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#655 [08:49] <Cruxsky> what are some ways to make minecraft run with less lag on a mac?
#656 [08:49] <Thrae> Cruxsky: What's your Mac's total RAM?
#657 [08:49] <Cruxsky> 2
#658 [08:50] <Thrae> 2...what? 2KB? 2MB? 2GB?
#659 [08:50] <Cruxsky> GB
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#661 [08:51] <Thrae> Try Optifine -- http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-181-optifine-hd-c2-fps-boost-hd-textures/
#662 [08:51] <Cruxsky> using it already
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#664 [08:52] <Cruxsky> without optifine i get 5 fps. with optifine i get 10 fps
#665 [08:53] <Cruxsky> its not fast enough. kinda unplayable
#666 [08:54] <Thrae> Cruxsky: Does this Mac have a graphics card?
#667 [08:54] <Thrae> Also, can you go to Applications -> Utilities -> Java -> Java Preferences
#668 [08:54] <Cruxsky> i already did the xmx thing
#669 [08:54] <Cruxsky> and im on a macbook
#670 [08:54] <Cruxsky> so no
#671 [08:55] <Thrae> Yeah that's probably it -- unless the Macbook has a dedicated graphics chipset, and I don't think they do, you may be out of luck. Intel graphics chipsets, especially older ones, seem to be horrible with OpenGL and gaming in general.
#672 [08:56] <Thrae> Cruxsky: Did you add something like "-Xmx1536M -Xms1024M" ?
#673 [08:56] <Cruxsky> its -Xmx1024
#674 [08:57] <Thrae> Well with 2GB of total RAM you can probably bump that up to 1536M for Xmx, and you also want to set Xms too
#675 [08:57] <Cruxsky> but i have a lot of other background applications also
#676 [08:58] <Thrae> It's just to test it out, and you'd have to have a lot to use up even 512MB along with the OS
#677 [08:58] <Thrae> Cruxsky: Also you can try this -- http://www.gmabooster.com/download_mac.htm
#678 [08:59] <Cruxsky> what about this <string>-Xms512M -Xmx1024M</string> in the contents of the minecraft.app
#679 [08:59] <Cruxsky> change it?
#680 [08:59] <Cruxsky> that website says "GMABooster for Mac OS X is at a moment not available for download."
#681 [09:01] <Cruxsky> ah i found it here http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4829-gmabooster-for-mac.html
#682 [09:05] <Ida> Thrae: cant get it to work....its frustrating when i dont understand....i really like the game....but i think ill give up..
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#684 [09:16] <Ida> Thrae: thanks for trying to help me...=) have a nice day...bye
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#690 [09:28] <WerteX> Hi, - on my laptop with core i5 RGB DDR3 RAM and integrated Intel HD chipset, minecraft is not playable - I can run it, but it is very lagging experience - I just want to ask if any optimizations for Sandy Bridge is underway... Thanks!
#691 [09:28] <WerteX> By the way, I'm running Linux
#692 [09:29] <WerteX> p.s. 4GB RAM
#693 [09:29] <almostroot> WerteX: Are you using Oracle Java or OpenJDK?
#694 [09:29] <WerteX> Oracle's Java 7
#695 [09:30] <almostroot> WerteX: Try going to Java 6. There are still some issues with 7. Recommended for Minecraft is 6 update 29.
#696 [09:31] <WerteX> Ah, ok - I'' try that then, any chance of Java 7 support anytime soon? [I'm using JDK 7 for developement]
#697 [09:33] <almostroot> WerteX: Theoretically it works, but we've noticed some instability and performance issues. Thus, if someone is having issues with Minecraft and are using Java 7, our first recommendation is to try Java 6.
#698 [09:33] <WerteX> Ok, thx
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#700 [09:37] <HeX> By the way, which java would be more suitable/of better performance for Minecraft? [openjdk6/oracles java6...?] - for gaming on 64bit linux?
#701 [09:39] <Thrae> HeX: Some people have claimed better performance with Sun/Orcale Java 7, but if you're having problems you don't want to be using that.
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#703 [09:40] <HeX> Yes, I do have some performance issues using Oracle Java 7, so I'll downgrade to Java 6, BUT WHICH ONE? [oracle/openjdk]...What do you recommend?
#704 [09:41] <almostroot> Oracle's tends to work the best.
#705 [09:42] <Cruxsky> does java 7 even work with minecraft?
#706 [09:42] <almostroot> Cruxsky: Yes.
#707 [09:43] <almostroot> Cruxsky: Sorta of,
#708 [09:43] <Cruxsky> but minecraft can only use 1.5+?
#709 [09:43] <almostroot> We recommend the latest Java 6 update.
#710 [09:44] <almostroot> Newer is not always better. Especially when the platform was written with older.
#711 [09:44] <Cruxsky> how come i can set minecraft to use 1.6+ but not 1.7
#712 [09:45] <Thrae> Minecraft can use Java 7, what do you mean Cruxsky ?
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#714 [09:47] <Cruxsky> but on the mac version iguess it only runs which java its set to in the info.plist?
#715 [09:47] <Thrae> Cruxsky: Macs can have multiple versions of Java installed, you'd just need to call the older versions manually.
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#717 [09:48] <mib_k9tpru> can i send a screenshot
#718 [09:49] <Cruxsky> what about this? <string>1.6+</string>
#719 [09:49] <Thrae> mib_k9tpru: Use something like imageshack.us
#720 [09:49] <mib_k9tpru> http://mojang.zendesk.com/attachments/token/nzohsaknz7rbjdv/?name=Screen_Shot_2011-10-24_at_8.12.47_PM.png
#721 [09:49] <almostroot> I prefer imgur
#722 [09:49] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#723 [09:49] <mib_k9tpru> how do you fix that problem
#724 [09:49] <Cruxsky> woah never seen that error ever
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#726 [09:50] <mib_k9tpru> does anyone know how to fix it
#727 [09:50] <Thrae> mib_k9tpru: Do you get the same error with http://www.minecraft.net/play ?
#728 [09:50] <almostroot> mib_k9tpru: What version of OS X is that?
#729 [09:51] <mib_k9tpru> Screen Shot 2011-10-25 at 6.51.00 AM
#730 [09:52] <Cruxsky> lol
#731 [09:52] <Thrae> You can't paste screenshots directly into the channel -- IRC is a text-only chat
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#733 [09:52] * almostroot loves the Apple mentality sometimes.
#733 [09:53] <mib_k9tpru> 10.7
#734 [09:53] <almostroot> I could rig up a plugin that if an image/file/etc was dragged to an IRC channel, it would automatically host is on droplr or dropbox...
#735 [09:53] <mib_k9tpru> Lion
#736 [09:53] <almostroot> mib_k9tpru: Did you see Thrae's question?
#737 [09:55] <mib_k9tpru> yes i do iwas trying to send a screenshot of what happens
#738 [09:55] <almostroot> Same issue?
#739 [09:57] <mib_k9tpru> no it lists a bunch of different file locations like Users/Sam/Application Data/minecraft
#740 [09:58] <mib_k9tpru> i have to go t0 school
#741 [09:58] <mib_k9tpru> bye
#742 [09:58] <mib_k9tpru> thanks for trying to help me
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#747 [10:14] <kempy92> How much bandwidth does Minecraft use multiplayer for a client? up/down per min
#748 [10:15] <Grim_Reaper> kempy92 I believe it varies according to how many players are on and what they're doing
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#750 [10:15] <kempy92> No rough figures?
#751 [10:17] <almostroot> kempy92: Try this tool: http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/
#752 [10:18] <almostroot> My virtual machine can handle 120 players plus myself according to that.
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#754 [10:21] <kempy92> No I meant more like, how much mb of bandwidth am i uploading/downloading a minute just playing a multiplayer server
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#763 [11:25] <Thrae> almostroot: Your virtual machine must have a ton of RAM...methinks that tool doesn't scale very well if your goal is 100+ players, but I think it's somewhat accurate for up to ~40
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#770 [12:02] <findow> anybody know why when I type in the name of the server my friend has up and running, it "can't resolve host name"? Everyone else in our group can get on the server but me
#771 [12:03] <almostroot> findow: What is the hostname of the server that you're entering?
#772 [12:03] <findow> ‎184.172.43.172:25567
#773 [12:03] <almostroot> !check 184.172.43.172:25567
#774 [12:04] <almostroot> findow: Looks fine to me. Sure you aren;t typing it and are entering it exactly like that?
#775 [12:04] <Thrae> findow: Are you using that IP exactly or are you typing in a domain name like foo.com ?
#776 [12:04] <findow> I am using that exactly
#777 [12:04] <almostroot> Thrae: Echo echo echo.... ;)
#778 [12:04] * Thrae goes quiet
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#779 [12:05] <findow> have it on my clipboard and paste it into the IP bar
#780 [12:05] <almostroot> findow: Try typing it in manually, adding a new server.
#781 [12:05] <findow> k. brb
#782 [12:06] <findow> wow. worked. thanks. I feel retarded xD
#783 [12:06] <almostroot> :)
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#789 [12:24] <Rilena> Hey guys!
#790 [12:25] <almostroot> Rilena: Why assume we're all guys?
#791 [12:25] <Sardonicus> :D
#792 [12:25] <Rilena> I didn't, its just a saying! :D Hi Girls!
#793 [12:25] <Sardonicus> guy = ladies and gentlemen
#794 [12:25] <Sardonicus> *guys
#795 [12:25] <Grim_Reaper> Due to the rule of the internet almostroot
#796 [12:26] <almostroot> Rilena: Why assume there are only males and females?
#797 [12:26] <Sardonicus> Because Rilena's still is connected to reality.
#798 [12:26] <Sardonicus> unlike certain ops
#799 [12:26] <almostroot> Sardonicus: Your grammar hurt my brain.
#800 [12:26] * Thrae believes "guys" should be gender-neutral
#800 [12:27] * almostroot believes in arguing semantics.
#800 [12:27] <Rilena> Well unless you are a sheep in which case, what are you doing on the internet! :O
#801 [12:27] <Thrae> Some of us are just really clever bots.
#802 [12:28] <Rilena> :/
#803 [12:28] <Rilena> Would any of you be able to assist me with a really strange issue that I am having with Minecraft?
#804 [12:28] * Sardonicus makes Aubot kick Thrae in his balls
#804 [12:28] <Thrae> Does it involve grammar?
#805 [12:28] <almostroot> Negative! I am a meat popsicle!
#806 [12:29] * Grim_Reaper hugs AuBot
#806 [12:29] <Rilena> No Thrae, it does not :(
#807 [12:30] <almostroot> Rilena: What is your strange issue? Besides assuming gender roles. ;P
#808 [12:30] <Sardonicus> What can I do about the loose contact at my earphones?
#809 [12:31] <Rilena> I am having some problems when trying to run Minecraft on a 64 bit version of Windows 7. Half the time I am getting "Has run out of memory" and the other half after a few seconds in-game it "freezes" with a light blue screen all over the program
#810 [12:31] <Sardonicus> left side alternating all the time
#811 [12:31] <almostroot> Rilena: How much memory is installed in your computer?
#812 [12:31] <Rilena> I am on a I5 2600k, Nvidia 560 with the latest drivers, 16 gig of DDR3 ram (1600 MHz) and I simply cannot find out why
#813 [12:32] <Rilena> Tried updating Java too
#814 [12:32] <Rilena> I know 16gig is overkill, but it was cheap :o
#815 [12:32] <Rilena> I tried removing 8gb of ram without any effect.
#816 [12:32] <almostroot> Rilena: Go into Programs and Features in the control panel, uninstall all versions of Java, then install this: http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/6u29-b11/jre-6u29-windows-x64.exe
#817 [12:33] <almostroot> You may have been using 32-bit Java, or Java may be broken, that may help. Also, have yo modified how much memory you're assigning to Minecraft?
#818 [12:33] <almostroot> you*
#819 [12:33] <Thrae> Rilena: Also, have you tried changing Java parameters or using a batch file?
#820 [12:33] <Rilena> Cool, will get back to you if it worked :) Thanks.
#821 [12:33] <Rilena> not yet, I tried but it never seemed to work
#822 [12:33] <Rilena> I tried the script/batch file to set the dedicated ram to 8gb
#823 [12:33] <Rilena> but ingame it still showed as 1gb
#824 [12:33] <almostroot> ??< mch-stats
#825 [12:34] <almostroot> Rilena: http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
#826 [12:34] <Thrae> Rilena: Try this batch file -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/LaunchMinecraft2G.bat
#827 [12:34] <Rilena> not tried that yet!
#828 [12:34] <almostroot> Rilena: Use those instructions, but change 256M to 2048M
#829 [12:34] <Rilena> will be right back.
#830 [12:34] <almostroot> Thrae: I claim that as a ninja. ;P
#831 [12:35] <Thrae> almostroot: I posted it on the support forums, http://www.minecraftirc.net/thread-24.html :)
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#833 [12:35] <almostroot> That bat also assumed the location of the Minecraft jar.
#834 [12:36] <almostroot> Having to have the bat in the same location as the exe would bug me.
#835 [12:36] <almostroot> Creative way of checking if the system is 32-bit though.
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#837 [12:37] <Thrae> I was going to add a way to search for stuff like Minecraft.exe and java.exe, just haven't gotten around to it yet.
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#840 [12:38] <Thrae> Also to use WMIC to check how much memory the system has.
#841 [12:39] <Sessoma88> hello
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#843 [12:41] <Thrae> ??> Sessoma88 dont/pm
#844 [12:41] <VoxelHead> Sessoma88: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#845 [12:41] <Thrae> Sessoma88: List your problem here, please
#846 [12:42] <Sessoma88> I bought mine craft but it was not booked by the account until now been one week
#847 [12:42] <Thrae> Sessoma88: So you bought Minecraft a week ago and your account is still not Premium?
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#849 [12:43] <Sessoma88> yes not premium
#850 [12:43] <Thrae> Sessoma88: OK, did you check with your bank or card issuer to see if payment was actually made?
#851 [12:45] <Sessoma88> the bank could not confirm to me that it was booked up today
#852 [12:45] <Thrae> Sessoma88: You should try contacting them again, as they should have that information.
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#854 [12:46] <Thrae> Sessoma88: It'll be much faster than contacting Mojang or Moneybookers (or Paypal depending on who you used).
#855 [12:47] <Sessoma88> ok but I think maybe a problem arose when the transaction is
#856 [12:47] <Thrae> Did you get an error?
#857 [12:48] <Sessoma88> not directly a fault simply because it takes so long
#858 [12:48] <Thrae> ?? payment
#859 [12:48] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#860 [12:48] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#861 [12:49] <Thrae> It definitely shouldn't take a week. Something probably happened, so I would contact your bank. If you contact Mojang it could take them a while to get back to you if it was your bank's fault.
#862 [12:51] <Sessoma88> the possibility to make all the stocks on paypal and cancel the other?
#863 [12:51] <Thrae> Sessoma88: Did you use a credit card for the first buy?
#864 [12:52] <Sessoma88> no, unfortunately I have no credit card is only the ec card too?
#865 [12:53] <Thrae> Sessoma88: I asked because if you used a credit card you could ask for a refund from the credit card company.
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#867 [12:54] <Sessoma88> oh so mean
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#869 [12:54] <Thrae> Sessoma88: Since you didn't use a credit card you'd have to contact Moneybookers to make sure they stop processing.
#870 [12:54] <Thrae> Sessoma88: But yes, you can use Paypal to make another purchase.
#871 [12:54] <Sessoma88> no I've done by bank transfer
#872 [12:55] <Rilena> Hi Almostroot?
#873 [12:58] <Sessoma88> how can I cancel the first order?
#874 [13:01] <Thrae> Sessoma88: Contact Moneybookers
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#876 [13:02] <guest-0-85955> hello anyone there?
#877 [13:03] <guest-0-85955> I'm having a problem with the Minecraft Modloader, I have that one Alchemy mod which has a LOT of recipies but it takes up item sprites when it supposedly works with MCForge API
#878 [13:03] <guest-0-85955> which has infinite sprites
#879 [13:03] <Sessoma88> when I turn on Moneybookers but this takes several days to do something for themselves that
#880 [13:04] <clarjon1> ?? mods
#881 [13:04] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#882 [13:04] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#884 [13:06] <Thrae> Sessoma88: We can't help with accounts here as we're not part of Mojang. Your best option is to contact your bank. Next best option is to contact Moneybookers. Next option is to contact Mojang, but Mojang will take the longest to get back to you by far.
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#887 [13:07] <APickleNinja> Does sheeps wool grow back in 1.8?
#888 [13:08] <Sessoma88> ok then I will probably ask again at my bank so much for your help
#889 [13:08] <APickleNinja> Managed to catch 2 sheep and a cow and placed them in a barn
#890 [13:11] <Rilena> apickleninja, it does but it takes a few "days"
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#892 [13:16] <APickleNinja> Does sheeps wool grow back on sheep in 1.8É
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#896 [13:20] <Kealper> minecraft...y u no let me log in
#897 [13:23] <Rilena> ApickleNinja, yes it does
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#901 [13:38] <vikernes666> hello :)
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#903 [13:38] <Searry> hey does anyone have any idea about the new java making processor usage go to like 60% if all cores are used
#904 [13:39] <vikernes666> i need help...my minecraft doesnt update :/
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#913 [14:03] <APickleNinja> Why can't I milk my cow?
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#917 [14:09] <Searry> so did the new java update put your java.exe cpu usage out of hand?
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#925 [14:49] <Calinou> APickleNinja: right click the cow's udder
#926 [14:50] <Calinou> in multiplayer, you may have to right click several times (due to server side stuff)
#927 [14:50] <Calinou> Searry: dunno
#928 [14:50] <Searry> i get like 60% cpu usage
#929 [14:50] <Searry> after the update today
#930 [14:50] <Searry> 64bit
#931 [14:50] <Wug> minecraft is very cpu intensive
#932 [14:51] <Searry> uh, with the last java version it was less than 10%
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#934 [14:51] <Searry> with both server and the game running
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#936 [14:51] <Wug> forgive me if I'm doubtful
#937 [14:51] <Wug> also minecraft uses less cpu if its not the active window
#938 [14:52] <Wug> so it takes considerably more when you're playing than when it's minimized
#939 [14:52] <Searry> without the update i could keep the server running and play other games and now i can't
#940 [14:52] <Wug> did you update to the 32 bit version
#941 [14:52] <Searry> because it hogs up the resources
#942 [14:52] <Searry> nope i have the 64bit one
#943 [14:52] <Wug> is your map corrupted
#944 [14:53] <Calinou> <Wug> also minecraft uses less cpu if its not the active window
#945 [14:53] <Calinou> you're doubtful here
#946 [14:53] <Calinou> sound is not muted when the window is not focused
#947 [14:53] <Searry> corrupted?
#948 [14:53] <Calinou> nor the FPS aren't limited.
#949 [14:53] <Calinou> > corrupted maps (bad chunks) may lead to craptons of mob spawns
#950 [14:53] <Wug> Calinou: I see large fps limits when the window is not focused
#951 [14:53] <Calinou> lots of polys > low fps
#952 [14:53] <Calinou> not me
#953 [14:53] <Calinou> I'm not on windoze. ;)
#954 [14:53] <Wug> I see it on windows and linux
#955 [14:53] <Calinou> I'm on max FPS performance, too
#956 [14:53] <Searry> hmm, let's see
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#958 [14:55] <Wug> it doesnt seem to do it on windows anymore actually Calinou, you're right
#959 [14:55] <Wug> I know it used to
#960 [14:55] <Wug> its probably something that get changed with the 1.8 update
#961 [14:55] <Wug> Searry: set it to balanced
#962 [14:56] <Calinou> why?
#963 [14:56] <Calinou> max FPS leads the way
#964 [14:56] <Searry> well actually the server hogs more than the game
#965 [14:56] <Wug> you cant see any fps higher than 60
#966 [14:56] <Searry> this is really weird
#967 [14:56] <Wug> Searry: thats also perfectly normal
#968 [14:56] <Searry> i'll experiment with 32bit
#969 [14:56] <Wug> you won't like the results
#970 [14:56] <Searry> that isn't really normal
#971 [14:57] <Wug> you'll get crashes due to memory limits
#972 [14:57] <Searry> the java update broke it
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#974 [14:58] <Wug> I'm running the client and server here, connected to myself, I'm seeing 19% total cpu usage
#975 [14:58] <Wug> I'm on an 8 core
#976 [14:58] <Searry> yes that's normal
#977 [14:58] <Calinou> eh Wug no
#978 [14:58] <Calinou> depends of people's eyes
#979 [14:58] <Calinou> and, balanced reduces FPS even if the cap isn't reached
#980 [14:59] <Wug> if you have a dual core or a quad then it will seem like more
#981 [14:59] <Calinou> 8 core, lol
#982 [14:59] <Calinou> how did it cost
#983 [14:59] <Wug> Calinou: do you have a 60 hz monitor?
#984 [14:59] <Wug> if so, 60fps is all you'll see
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#986 [14:59] <Wug> you probably do, theyre pretty much the standard
#987 [14:59] <Calinou> no
#988 [14:59] <Wug> unless you spent an extra $150 for a faster one
#989 [14:59] <Calinou> - take AssaultCube
#990 [15:00] <Calinou> - sees more FPS with /maxfps 0 than /maxfps 60
#991 [15:00] <Calinou> easily seeable with eyes
#992 [15:00] <Calinou> or same, /maxfps 0 and /maxfps 75
#993 [15:00] <Wug> if your monitor's max fps is 60 than 60 fps is all its displaying anyway
#994 [15:00] <Wug> you're fooling yourself.
#995 [15:01] <Calinou> let me test.
#996 [15:01] <bennyBoy> minecraft wont update or play is either says fatal error (4) unable to receive iwlgi.jar of a black screen
#997 [15:02] <Wug> bennyBoy: try disabling any antivirus software you have
#998 [15:02] <Calinou> if you say so...
#999 [15:02] <Wug> lwjgl causes a false positive for lots of scanners
#1000 [15:02] <bennyBoy> i have still it wont
#1001 [15:02] <Calinou> ...click "Force Update" in the launcher
#1002 [15:02] <Calinou> what is your operating system? what is your graphics card, are its drivers up to date? what is your java version?
#1003 [15:03] <Calinou> you may try updating LWJGL
#1004 [15:03] <Calinou> ?? lwjgl
#1005 [15:03] <Calinou> ?? index
#1006 [15:03] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1007 [15:04] <Klownicle> VoxelHead are you a bot
#1008 [15:04] <Calinou> he is
#1009 [15:04] <Calinou> ?? bot
#1010 [15:04] <VoxelHead> bot: I am sometimes a bot, unless I'm not. I may or may not be a sock-puppet. Or a deity. No one really knows.
#1011 [15:04] <Klownicle> What no quirky response?
#1012 [15:04] <Klownicle> All bots should have a quirky response to that question
#1013 [15:05] <Klownicle> Like Negative I am a meat popsicle
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#1015 [15:07] <bennyBoy> im on xp, java? graphics card supported minecraft before
#1016 [15:07] <bennyBoy> updaiting java
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#1018 [15:12] <bennyBoy> even the in browser verson wont work
#1019 [15:12] <Wug> what antivirus software do you have
#1020 [15:13] <bennyBoy> windows security esentuals
#1021 [15:13] <Wug> ok, can you pull up the task manager
#1022 [15:13] <Wug> go to the processes tab and sort them by name
#1023 [15:14] <bennyBoy> yes
#1024 [15:14] <bennyBoy> done that
#1025 [15:15] <Wug> search for a process called rlvknlg.exe
#1026 [15:15] <Wug> tell me if it exists
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#1028 [15:16] <bennyBoy> no
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#1030 [15:18] <DopeGhoti> ??+ win/processexplorer|An excellent utility that's more powerful and capable than is the Task Mangler^WManager is Process Explorer. You can get it here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653
#1031 [15:18] <bennyBoy> i got a rthdcpl.exe
#1032 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> that would be the Realtek HD Audio Control Panel
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#1034 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> (your audio drivers)
#1035 [15:19] <Calinou> could be abused, Klownicle
#1036 [15:19] <Wug> bennyBoy: download and run this: http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#1037 [15:19] <Wug> its a troubleshooting launcher
#1038 [15:19] <Wug> whenever we deploy it to try and find the cause of this problem, it magically goes away
#1039 [15:19] <DopeGhoti> "illegal"?
#1040 [15:20] <Wug> thats been there forever
#1041 [15:20] <bennyBoy> should i update
#1042 [15:20] <Wug> bennyBoy: yes
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#1044 [15:20] <Wug> DopeGhoti: it has launcher code in it, and since distributing mojang code isnt allowed, its technically against the tos
#1045 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> How about not violating the TOS then, Wug?
#1046 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Seriously, man.
#1047 [15:20] <Wug> that being said, I've asked jerb about it and he doesnt mind
#1048 [15:21] <bennyBoy> nope still stuck
#1049 [15:21] <DopeGhoti> who is jerb and why do I care what he says?
#1050 [15:21] <Wug> bennyBoy: it should have saved a log file called minecraft.log
#1051 [15:21] <Wug> DopeGhoti: jerb == what my client auto replaces jeb with
#1052 [15:21] <Wug> so I dont ping him when talking about him
#1053 [15:22] <bennyBoy> where
#1054 [15:22] <Wug> bennyBoy: should be in the same folder where the launcher is
#1055 [15:22] <Calinou> I read jerb jeb... lol
#1056 [15:22] <Calinou> "http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar"
#1057 [15:22] <Calinou> > illegal
#1058 [15:22] <Calinou> ...?
#1059 [15:22] <Wug> if you didnt move the launcher from your downloads folder. its probably there
#1060 [15:23] <bennyBoy> ok i see it
#1061 [15:23] <Wug> Calinou: thats what I'm explaining to dopeghoti, read up
#1062 [15:23] <Calinou> minecraft code is also illegal
#1063 [15:23] <Wug> its not like it hasnt always been there -.-
#1064 [15:23] <Calinou> yet people yet mods and MCF allows it
#1065 [15:23] <ShaRose> it's not?
#1066 [15:23] <Calinou> also, jeb is NOT on this channel
#1067 [15:23] <Wug> Calinou: mods are distributed as files people wrote
#1068 [15:23] <almostroot> Wug: I've complained about it many times, and have been tempted to kick/ban WugBot for having that as a response.
#1069 [15:23] <Wug> Calinou: jeb is in other channels I'm in
#1070 [15:23] <Calinou> they contain original MC code. :P
#1071 [15:24] <ShaRose> and the licence allows it
#1072 [15:24] <Wug> almostroot: you can just unset the factoid if it bugs you that much
#1073 [15:24] <Calinou> read @ minecraft.net
#1074 [15:24] <Calinou> "this includes modified versions of anything we've made"
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#1076 [15:24] <Calinou> TECHNICALLY, any client mods are illegal
#1077 [15:24] <Wug> Calinou: if you make it from scratch, its ok
#1078 [15:24] <ShaRose> jerb seems to think it's ok
#1079 [15:24] <Calinou> but... this is a support channel.
#1080 [15:24] <almostroot> Calinou: Incorrect. Not all client mods contain Mojang's code.
#1081 [15:24] <Calinou> take "aq.class" > it contains mojang stuff and the modder's stuff
#1082 [15:24] <Wug> lets not argue about this
#1083 [15:25] <Calinou> k.
#1084 [15:25] <Wug> Calinou: no, it doesnt
#1085 [15:25] <Wug> go to #risucraft and I'll excplain
#1086 [15:25] <bennyBoy> i see minecraft log
#1087 [15:25] <Wug> bennyBoy: post it on pastebin
#1088 [15:26] <Wug> or if its really short, just tell me what it says
#1089 [15:26] <Wug> really short as in 2 lines or less
#1090 [15:26] <bennyBoy> java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Documents and Settings\George & Becky\Application Data\.minecraft\lastlogin (The system cannot find the file specified) at java.io.FileInputStream.open(Native Method) at java.io.FileInputStream.<init>(Unknown Source) at net.minecraft.LoginForm.readUsername(LoginForm.java:107) at net.minecraft.LoginForm.<init>(LoginForm.ja
#1091 [15:27] <Wug> that part isnt important
#1092 [15:27] <bennyBoy> http://mibpaste.com/coTEeu http://mibpaste.com/Ry9hyc
#1093 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> aha
#1094 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> the problem is probably the '&' in the profile name
#1095 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> ?? win/profile
#1096 [15:27] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1097 [15:27] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1098 [15:27] <Wug> does it happen with &s too
#1099 [15:27] <DopeGhoti> & is a Special Character to Windows parsers, so probably.
#1100 [15:28] <Wug> bennyBoy: download and run this: http://wug.me/minecraft/fix/Install.exe
#1101 [15:28] <Wug> you'll have to run as admin
#1102 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> Wug: and what exactly does that tool consist of and do?
#1103 [15:28] <Calinou> Wug: r.a.g.e
#1104 [15:28] <Wug> DopeGhoti: hang on, I'll send you the source
#1105 [15:28] <Calinou> I'm banned from #risucraft, was ISP banned once
#1106 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> Wug: I'd appreciate it. And if we're going to start using it, I'll put it on the Tools site, for the reasons I've already gone over in the lounge.
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#1108 [15:30] <bennyBoy> no sorry
#1109 [15:31] <Wug> Calinou: I'll explain in one sentence then. Java programs are basically one or more class files stored in a zip file. Minecraft consists of hundreds of such files. You can replace individual ones with different ones, or you can write your own. Either way, you are not supposed to use mojang's code in mods if you can at all avoid it, and many mods are written in such a way that they dont, consisting entirely of files created by the mod author.
#1110 [15:31] <Wug> DopeGhoti: do you know anything about autohotkey
#1111 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> Calinou: this is why mods require unzipping the jar and inserting your own class files
#1112 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Calinou: distrubuting a fully modded client is _not_ acceptable. Distributing what amounts to a patch, is.
#1113 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> Wug: I'll talk to you about a legal workaround for your debugger launcher shortly.
#1114 [15:32] <DopeGhoti> in the meantime, let's stop violating the TOS.
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#1116 [15:33] <Wug> DopeGhoti: the alternative would be writing a launcher mod, which users would have to install
#1117 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> I've heard of autohotkey, but not used it.
#1118 [15:33] <DopeGhoti> Wug: I have a better idea, actually. /me takes it out-of-band
#1119 [15:33] <Wug> since java does not behave uniformly over different systems and is not always in the same place, the most general solution is a standalone launcher
#1120 [15:33] <bennyBoy> no the download ran but didnt download iwgjl.jar 7% (as always)
#1121 [15:34] <Calinou> try to update LWJGL
#1122 [15:34] <bennyBoy> how
#1123 [15:34] <Calinou> http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Updating_LWJGL
#1124 [15:34] <Calinou> fail'd, wait
#1125 [15:34] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#1126 [15:34] <Wug> Calinou: that wont actually worn unless theres enough of minecraft's files there to actually attempt to start the game
#1127 [15:34] <Calinou> here
#1128 [15:34] <Wug> otherwise it will just redownload everything
#1129 [15:34] <Calinou> oh, okay
#1130 [15:35] <Wug> lwjgl is like the second thing it downloads
#1131 [15:35] <bennyBoy> ho so aneyone HELP
#1132 [15:37] <Calinou> I'm on linux... so I have hard times helping windows users for technical problems. ;)
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#1134 [15:38] <bennyBoy> wug can you help aneymore or am i dooooooooommmmmmed
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#1136 [15:42] <Wug> ??> bennyBoy teamviewer
#1137 [15:42] <VoxelHead> bennyBoy: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1138 [15:42] <VoxelHead> bennyBoy: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1139 [15:43] <bennyBoy> i have it
#1140 [15:43] <Wug> run it and pm me the id and password
#1141 [15:45] <Wug> bennyBoy: I have little time, I have to go to a project meeting in like 15 minutes
#1142 [15:45] <Wug> so do hurry
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#1144 [15:48] <bennyBoy> id:44 248 820
#1145 [15:48] <bennyBoy> password:4076
#1146 [15:50] <bennyBoy> wug r u there
#1147 [15:51] <Wug> yeah, hang on
#1148 [15:51] <Wug> ok, I'm connected
#1149 [15:51] <Wug> can you run it so I can see what its doing
#1150 [15:52] <Wug> GreyVulpine: what was the error that the windows socket fix worked on
#1151 [15:52] <Wug> well, I've seen that a lot and have no idea why it happens
#1152 [15:52] <Wug> I'm just going to do a horrible workaround
#1153 [15:53] <bennyBoy> ok
#1154 [15:54] <bennyBoy> i gtg
#1155 [15:54] <Wug> umm ok.
#1156 [15:54] <Wug> come back later
#1157 [15:54] <bennyBoy> ill leave this running so u can say helpful stuff
#1158 [15:54] <bennyBoy> or whatever
#1159 [15:55] <bennyBoy> im gone now
#1160 [15:55] <Wug> if you have a minute, this will only take a second
#1161 [15:56] <bennyBoy> ok
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#1164 [15:59] <bennyBoy> team wiewers open id is the same ill leave this open ps passwords now 1830
#1165 [15:59] <bennyBoy> do whatever
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#1169 [16:12] <GowienkoNaMiekko> Hello, can I change my nick in minecraft ?
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#1171 [16:13] <WildCraze> no, not at the moment
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#1178 [16:25] <SupaYoshi> Hi, I've a problem we run Factions server, and we cant blow up chests?
#1179 [16:25] <SupaYoshi> with TNT
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#1183 [16:32] <Wug> bennyBoy: https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?lg=english&ct=united+states&docid=20080710133834EN&product=home&version=1&pvid=f-home
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#1185 [16:37] <bennyBoy> thanks bie pd Ben bartlett (fb_
#1186 [16:37] <bennyBoy> pd* ps
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#1188 [16:43] <guest-0-67519> hey can anyone help i can log into my server just fine but a friend keeps getting a disconnected.overflow
#1189 [16:43] <guest-0-67519> how do i fix this
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#1195 [16:57] <guest-0-67519> i asked this earlier and nobody asnwered and looks like a few more ppl have logged in i can log into my server fine but my friend keeps getting disconnected and on the server log its telling me disconnected.overflow any suggestions?
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#1197 [17:02] <Skippy> Hello
#1198 [17:03] <Skippy> i need some help with my minecraft please, i tried alot of things but to no avail. if someone has some time for me please do tell :)
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#1200 [17:05] <guest-0-67519> skippy ive had a few problems lately and had them answered on here maybe i could relay one of the answers i got whats your problem?
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#1202 [17:06] <|Kiikun|> guest-0-67519: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/103844-disconnectoverflow/page__view__findpost__p__2831394
#1203 [17:06] <Skippy> well, my downloader wont download, it just stops
#1204 [17:06] <|Kiikun|> Skippy: im headding to school now.. so ask quick
#1205 [17:06] <Skippy> ok
#1206 [17:06] <Skippy> i just stops
#1207 [17:06] <Skippy> and i redownloaded the exe
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#1209 [17:07] <Skippy> tried starting up with more ram
#1210 [17:07] <Skippy> replaced java with 6 or 7
#1211 [17:08] <|Kiikun|> Skippy: turn off firewall/av to see if it works. some like to break the downloads. DONT use java7 unless your already runnign fine (which your not.). and update video drivers if its stallign at the lwjgl download
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#1213 [17:08] <Skippy> its stalling at minecraft.jar
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#1215 [17:08] <Skippy> if i clean the bin it downloads a bit and stalls agan
#1216 [17:08] <Skippy> i have no firewall
#1217 [17:09] <Skippy> lemme try turning of av
#1218 [17:09] <Skippy> i tried java 7 because people said it was beter vopr 64bit
#1219 [17:09] <Skippy> for
#1220 [17:09] <|Kiikun|> Skippy: everyone has a firewall unless you disable it :P windows comes it one on by default.. but windows one shouldnt interfeer unless its blockign java
#1221 [17:09] <Skippy> i disabled it ;)
#1222 [17:10] <|Kiikun|> Skippy: i personally use 7, but ive also never had any problems outside of Classic :P
#1223 [17:10] * |Kiikun| only updated to try and aleviate some bugs in 1.6
#1223 [17:10] <Skippy> well funny part is minecraft worked fine before
#1224 [17:10] <Skippy> my system crashed i reinstalled and now its acting up
#1225 [17:10] <Skippy> i used 7 before to
#1226 [17:11] <|Kiikun|> system crashed? with mc open?
#1227 [17:11] <Skippy> with av off it still stalls
#1228 [17:11] <Skippy> no not with mc
#1229 [17:11] <Skippy> a virus
#1230 [17:11] <Skippy> nothing to do with mc
#1231 [17:12] <|Kiikun|> i ment the crash, not the cause. thinking it might have borked java. an update wont fix that, youd have to uninstall and reinstall.
#1232 [17:12] <|Kiikun|> or use javara
#1233 [17:12] <|Kiikun|> and out i go!
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#1235 [17:13] <Skippy> euuhm
#1236 [17:13] <|Kiikun|> oh right... you reinstalled system? your windows username doesnt happento have an ! in it?
#1237 [17:13] <Skippy> it didnt crashed with minecraft running or any java app i know off
#1238 [17:14] <|Kiikun|> last idea before im out the door :P
#1239 [17:14] <Skippy> yes i reinstalled windows 7 64 bit
#1240 [17:14] <Skippy> nope juist plain skippy
#1241 [17:14] <Skippy> thnx for the help anyway
#1242 [17:14] <Skippy> have a nice day
#1243 [17:14] <|Kiikun|> you too :P ill probably be back in durring class... or someone else will pop in to help
#1244 [17:15] <Skippy> its gettin late here dont think ill hang around much maybe next time byebye
#1245 [17:17] <guest-0-67519> whoever sent that link do they know which is the actual solution from what i could see it was a bunch of ppl saying they had the same problem and asking for a solution :(
#1246 [17:18] <Skippy> that was kiikun, he is off to class now i think
#1247 [17:18] <Skippy> he said he will drop by later
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#1250 [17:27] <spankinator> Hey all, got a problem as soon as Mobs are turned on, the server just lags right up. Anyone got any fixes?
#1251 [17:31] <TheNytangel> spankinator, don't turn mobs on?
#1252 [17:32] <spankinator> well, id like to play with them on lol. Its part of the game ;p
#1253 [17:32] <TheNytangel> Then dedicate more RAM
#1254 [17:34] <spankinator> ive tried doing that messing about with java with stuff ive seen on various forums. Not the most computer literate person in the world
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#1258 [17:51] <thegman11111> hi for some reason I cant run minecraft on java
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#1260 [17:52] <guest-0-28812> does anyone know why i cant connect to my brothers classic server but other people can does it have something to do with the ip?
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#1262 [17:53] <guest-0-28812> Does anyonw know?
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#1264 [17:54] <guest-0-28812> does anyone know why i cant connect to my brothers classic server but other people can does it have something to do with the ip?
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#1267 [17:58] <mib_ubj5h0> hay my game is runing rilly slow and i dont know why can you hellp me wen i move it tacks forever for it to go
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#1269 [18:01] <mib_ubj5h0> dame i need help
#1270 [18:03] <IronHart> Hey. I playd the old veshion of Mincraft yesterday. And It worked on my laptop. So I bought the full veshoin today, And it wont lode. Every time it reeds. "Bad video card drivers! Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1271 [18:03] <IronHart> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 10/25/11 6:02 PM
#1272 [18:04] <IronHart> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.nChoosePixelFormat(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.choosePixelFormat(WindowsPeerInfo.java:52) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsDisplay.createWindow(WindowsDisplay.java:185) at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.createWindow(Display.java:311) at org.lwjgl.opengl.
#1273 [18:04] <mib_ubj5h0> ya thats what itseadto me wen i bute it today
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#1275 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> IronHart: you might try updating your GPU drivers?
#1276 [18:08] <IronHart> How do you do that. Im not tec savy. Haha!:D
#1277 [18:10] <DopeGhoti> IronHart: what GPU have you got in your computer?
#1278 [18:11] <IronHart> Im not shore. How can I find it?
#1279 [18:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> IronHart win/dxdiag
#1280 [18:12] <VoxelHead> IronHart: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1281 [18:12] <VoxelHead> IronHart: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#1283 [18:12] <IronHart> OK, I give it a try:)
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#1291 [18:33] <assassin> I think someone hacked my account and changed the email. Is there anyway of contacting anyone
#1292 [18:34] <assassin> anyone know how to contact mincraft
#1293 [18:35] <assassin> wow and this is the help link lol
#1294 [18:37] <mulias> can some one help me get some mods working iv tryed everthing and nothing seems to work for me...
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#1297 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> ??> mulias mods
#1298 [18:48] <VoxelHead> mulias: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1299 [18:48] <VoxelHead> mulias: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1306 [19:06] <mulias> thats the thing none of the mods are working im atm trying to get buildcraft to work but i get an error report evertime i try to add it to the game i have a clean verson of minecraft and i fallow the install instructions could it be my computer i do have a vista...
#1307 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> ??> mulias mods
#1308 [19:07] <WholeShabang> can anyone help me? I just bought minecraft, i tried playing on the website but it won't run. Then I downloaded the .exe, i log in and it just crashes, I already updated my java.
#1309 [19:07] <VoxelHead> mulias: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1310 [19:07] <VoxelHead> mulias: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1311 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> WholeShabang - Do you get any error reports?
#1312 [19:08] <WholeShabang> yes
#1313 [19:08] <WholeShabang> GreyVulpine - can i paste the link here?
#1314 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> Could you share one via www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it?>
#1315 [19:08] <WholeShabang> ok
#1316 [19:09] <WholeShabang> GreyVulpine - http://pastebin.com/5f3Hanjy
#1317 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> The problem lies with your ATI video drivers. Do you know how to update them?
#1318 [19:11] <WholeShabang> my laptop is a Asus G73h which known for having issues updating their drivers.
#1319 [19:11] <WholeShabang> I can play dead island fine though
#1320 [19:11] <WholeShabang> dungeon siege 3 etc
#1321 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> The problem with yours is that the drivers are crapping out on OpenGL support, which none of your games, save minecraft, use
#1322 [19:12] <WholeShabang> is there a work around it?
#1323 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Only way is to find updated drivers for your system
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#1325 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> WholeShabang: have you tried going to AMD's site to get their drivers?
#1326 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> ?? gpu/amd
#1327 [19:13] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1328 [19:14] <WholeShabang> I tried but not compatible with Asus G73jh it always has issues, sadly.
#1329 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> what OS have you got installed on that machine?
#1330 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> Windows 7 x64?
#1331 [19:15] <WholeShabang> yes
#1332 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/Drivers/VGA/VGA_WIN7_64_868300.zip
#1333 [19:15] <WholeShabang> wow thank you
#1334 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> have you already tried that set of drivers?
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#1336 [19:16] <WholeShabang> well if it's from their official asus website it should be the default driver that they use
#1337 [19:16] <WholeShabang> they never update it
#1338 [19:16] <WholeShabang> :(
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#1340 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> it's Version V8.683.0.0
#1341 [19:16] <Xavier> Will mobs walk off cliffs by themselves?
#1342 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> Xavier: sometimes, yes
#1343 [19:17] <WholeShabang> yeah dope it's the one i have right now
#1344 [19:17] <WholeShabang> looking at dxdiag
#1345 [19:17] <Xavier> What is their AI like when it comes to that? Will they be less willing to walk off bigger cliffs?
#1346 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> Xavier: I haven't put a lot of time into research, but their paths seem mostly random when not involved in combat
#1347 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> with perhaps a slight bias away from >3m drops
#1348 [19:18] <WholeShabang> well thanks for the great help Dope, I appreciate it
#1349 [19:18] <WholeShabang> looks like i have to find a way to update my drivers somehow
#1350 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> WholeShabang: what version of Java are you running?
#1351 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> also, this may be sort of deer hunting with a rocket launcher, but have you tried running the game under a Linux LiveCD?
#1352 [19:19] <Xavier> Ok. It's my mob trap that is kind of not working well, they walk off the ledge into a current and the current pushes them into lava. They don
#1353 [19:19] <Xavier> 't seem to walk off often.
#1354 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> Xavier: you could try using piston-driven blocks as floodgates to generate a current that comes and goes, to "help" the mobs off of the ledge, maybe?
#1355 [19:22] <SupaYoshi> Hiii could use some help, we have essentials updated and worlds dont work anymore
#1356 [19:22] <SupaYoshi> :P we cant go to nether, or out of nether atleast, and go to shop world
#1357 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> ??> SupaYoshi mods
#1358 [19:22] <VoxelHead> SupaYoshi: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1359 [19:22] <VoxelHead> SupaYoshi: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1360 [19:23] <Xavier> Wait, what? I don't think you really get what my trap's design is. There are 20 spawn platforms, each 6x6, and a 2 wide cross of air between them. There is a long drop from the platforms into the water current, which kills them no matter what when they fall in with a lava grinder.
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#1363 [19:25] <Xavier> I'm not sure of its efficiency, I made it freely with no plans.
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#1375 [19:55] <fishy996> i need help
#1376 [19:55] <TheNytangel> I'm sure needhelp does too
#1377 [19:55] <fishy996> lol
#1378 [19:56] <TheNytangel> Guess not
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#1380 [19:57] <TheNytangel> fishy996, well?
#1381 [19:58] <fishy996> umm i made a server today and it worked i was playing on it and i started building but then i creeper blew it up so i went on the server notepad and put spawn monsters false but it didn't work so then i changed it back to it's original way and know the server doesn't want to run
#1382 [19:58] <fishy996> so you think you can help?
#1383 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Mind posting the contents of the server.properties file to pastebin.com?
#1384 [19:59] <fishy996> ok
#1385 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> fishy996: did you restart the server after modifying the .properties file?
#1386 [19:59] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, wait
#1387 [19:59] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, the difficulty level?
#1388 [19:59] <fishy996> how do you do that
#1389 [20:00] <TheNytangel> It says difficulty-level=1 or something, try changing that to 0?
#1390 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> There's difficulties levels in the mc server now?
#1391 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> always have been
#1392 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> No there hasn't..
#1393 [20:01] <fishy996> um so how do you restart the server
#1394 [20:01] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, it was added in 1.8 I think
#1395 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#1396 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> I distinctle remember setting the difficulty to peaceful in SMP back when monsters could only be hurt by fire, GV
#1397 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Wiki says otherwise
#1398 [20:01] <TheNytangel> fishy996, type in "stop" in the console, and then start it again
#1399 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> fishy996: on the server console, "stop"
#1400 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> or, from in-game, "/stop"
#1401 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> then restart the server
#1402 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> There's spawn monsters, spawn animals, no difficulty level argument
#1403 [20:02] <fishy996> okay
#1404 [20:02] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, you are reading it wrong
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#1406 [20:02] <TheNytangel> It say "difficulty"
#1407 [20:02] <TheNytangel> Right after online-mode
#1408 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Hrm, I stand corrected, that's new
#1409 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> no, it's old
#1410 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> it's been there since Alpha
#1411 [20:03] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, no...
#1412 [20:03] <fishy996> okay i did that and it's still the same
#1413 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> I doubt it was in alpha though
#1414 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: my first server was Alpha; I started with SMP and monsters
#1415 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> I set the mode to Peaceful to disable them until SMP monster damage was implemented
#1416 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> (we still wanted sheep &c)
#1417 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Peaceful mode was implied whenever you turned off spawn-monsters in the past
#1418 [20:04] * TheNytangel think that he thinks like GreyVulpine, and it was added in beta
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#1420 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> I have a minecraft 1.7.3 server.properties file here, and it doesn't contain the difficulty argument
#1421 [20:05] <fishy996> my thing says server unexpected exception
#1422 [20:05] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, yeah
#1423 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> get back to me when you have an Alpha .properties file :p
#1424 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Easily done
#1425 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> 85 people»
#1426 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> [08:05.18pm] <@GreyVulpine> I ha
#1427 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> er
#1428 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Server.properties&oldid=32641
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#1430 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> As of 11th December 2010, these are the default settings for a newly installed Alpha Minecraft server:
#1431 [20:07] <fishy996> wait who are you talking to
#1432 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> Each other, but we digress
#1433 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> fishy996 - Could you pastebin.com the server log? and perhaps the server.properties file as well?
#1434 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> What exception or error are you getting?
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#1436 [20:09] <fishy996> it says: java.lang.nullpointerexception
#1437 [20:09] <fishy996> it doesn't let me copy the server log
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#1439 [20:10] <TheNytangel> fishy996, right click and click "select all" then do Ctrl + C
#1440 [20:10] <JonesyBoppa> is there anyone here ?
#1441 [20:10] <JonesyBoppa> Can someone help me ?
#1442 [20:10] <JonesyBoppa> ?
#1443 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> JonesyBoppa - Only if you tell us with what
#1444 [20:11] <TheNytangel> Not until you give us a question
#1445 [20:11] <JonesyBoppa> GreyVulpine: - I set up my server, but I want to have it like a web address instead of my router IP... how do I do it ?
#1446 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to either pay for a domain name, or use a free dns service like dyndns
#1447 [20:11] <TheNytangel> JonesyBoppa, it isn't your router IP, it's your.. IP
#1448 [20:12] <fishy996> http://pastebin.com/JtrJitgA
#1449 [20:12] <JonesyBoppa> I have a webs.com domain... is this good enough GreyVulpine ?
#1450 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> it would be
#1451 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> just assign a hostname to your IP address, and use that hostname
#1452 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Erm, webs.com, isn't that just a free website service?
#1453 [20:12] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, bet he doesn't understand that..
#1454 [20:12] <JonesyBoppa> yeah GreyVulpine
#1455 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> no wager.
#1456 [20:12] <TheNytangel> :(
#1457 [20:13] <fishy996> what
#1458 [20:13] <TheNytangel> fishy996, now copy and paste your server.properties file to pastebin and give us the link
#1459 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> JonesyBoppa - If you only have a free hosting package, it doesn't have a domain name support
#1460 [20:13] <JonesyBoppa> how do I assign the web address as my hostname instead of my ip ?
#1461 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> JonesyBoppa: allow me to explain
#1462 [20:13] <JonesyBoppa> GreyVulpine: Ive seen someone with a webs.com one
#1463 [20:14] <fishy996> http://pastebin.com/SF9acb1S
#1464 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Did you actually pay for one of the webs.com packages, JonesyBoppa?
#1465 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> all a hostname is is somehing that is looked up via DNS to find out its IP address
#1466 [20:14] <JonesyBoppa> nope
#1467 [20:14] <TheNytangel> O.o
#1468 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> For $5, I will give you a hostname at hfbgaming.com :p
#1469 [20:14] <TheNytangel> fishy996, take out the "gamemode" thing, I don't think it should be there
#1470 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: yes it should; it defines whether it's SMP or CMP
#1471 [20:15] <JonesyBoppa> DopeGhoti:/ GreyVulpine can you show me via team viewer or something ? Im confused :/
#1472 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> the problem lies with "fishys world"
#1473 [20:15] <fishy996> k
#1474 [20:15] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, CMP?
#1475 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> As DopeGhoti pointed out
#1476 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> fishy996: you need to remove the space
#1477 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: Creative Multiplayer
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#1479 [20:15] <fishy996> k
#1480 [20:15] <TheNytangel> Ok..
#1481 [20:15] <JonesyBoppa> DopeGhoti: / GreyVulpine can you show me via team viewer or something ? Im confused :/
#1482 [20:15] <TheNytangel> fishy996, I guess leave that in..
#1483 [20:15] <DopeGhoti> JonesyBoppa: Have you purchased a domain name?
#1484 [20:15] <JonesyBoppa> nope
#1485 [20:15] <fishy996> so i put it back
#1486 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> fishy996- Yes, leave gamemode there
#1487 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> JonesyBoppa: okay, so step one is to purchase a domain name.
#1488 [20:16] <TheNytangel> But fishy996, 1. yes, 2. change "difficulty" to 0
#1489 [20:16] <fishy996> k
#1490 [20:16] <JonesyBoppa> DopeGhoti: Ive saw ones without a real domain name
#1491 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> JonesyBoppa: what do you mean by 'not a real domain name'?
#1492 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> JonesyBoppa - Yes, webs.com, the free package, doesn't allow you a domain name
#1493 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> DopeGhoti - Most likely, dyndns.org or similar
#1494 [20:16] <JonesyBoppa> like a -servername-.webs.com
#1495 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: those are quite real.
#1496 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> (which is the point I was going to make)
#1497 [20:17] <JonesyBoppa> so, i have to purchase a domain name, then what ?
#1498 [20:17] <fishy996> still the same
#1499 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> JonesyBoppa: once you have a domain name, you assign IP addresses to FQDNs within that domain
#1500 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> fishy996 - Do you see "fishys world" in your server.properties file?
#1501 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> for example, if I buy example.com
#1502 [20:18] <fishy996> yes
#1503 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> and I start a server, I can assign minecraft.example.com to that server's IP address
#1504 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> fishy996 - Remove the space in it. the level-name cannot have spaces
#1505 [20:18] <fishy996> k
#1506 [20:19] <JonesyBoppa> so if i get the ip adress of server.domainname.com and put it in the ip address section it will work ?
#1507 [20:19] <fishy996> thank you so much thats what it was
#1508 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> "server.domainname.com" is not an IP address; it's a hostname
#1509 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> all DNS does is associate names to addresses
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#1511 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> kind of like a phone book, an analogy no one under the age of thirty will likely understand.
#1512 [20:19] <JonesyBoppa> so i put server.domainname.com in the "Ip address" section it will work
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#1514 [20:20] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, I understand phone books...
#1515 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> JonesyBoppa: if you own server.domainname.com and have assigned that hostname to your server's IP address, then yes.
#1516 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: you're unlikely.
#1517 [20:20] <gamakichi> how do i fix this? if i start up the game, i will get the java scree
#1518 [20:20] <gamakichi> oops
#1519 [20:20] <JonesyBoppa> thanks DopeGhoti and GreyVulpine
#1520 [20:20] <DopeGhoti> care to try that again, gamakichi? (:
#1521 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> JonesyBoppa: that'll be $8. (:
#1522 [20:21] * TheNytangel kicks DopeGhoti
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#1523 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> my shin!
#1524 [20:21] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, never said I kicked your shin
#1525 [20:21] <gamakichi> if i start the game a java scrren apears then a error message pops up saying some code then saying error: pixel format not acepted
#1526 [20:22] <TheNytangel> ??> gamakichi error/pixelformat
#1527 [20:22] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (error/pixelformat) Bad video card drivers! ... org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#1528 [20:22] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (error/pixelformat) This error message occurs when minecraft can't find graphics drivers with which it can render the game. Caused by improperly installed or missing video drivers. Installing or reinstalling your video drivers usually fixes this problem.
#1529 [20:22] <gamakichi> o cool
#1530 [20:22] * VoxelHead grins
#1530 [20:22] <gamakichi> now to google how to do tht XD
#1531 [20:22] <gamakichi> thanks
#1532 [20:23] <TheNytangel> Someone who knows how to google :D
#1533 [20:23] <TheNytangel> We are training them guys!
#1534 [20:23] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1534 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> \o>
#1535 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> <o/
#1536 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> \o/
#1537 [20:24] <gamakichi> can only the admins do the action thing?
#1538 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Anybody can
#1539 [20:24] <TheNytangel> Well now we just need to train them IRC..
#1540 [20:24] <gamakichi> ok
#1541 [20:25] <TheNytangel> gamakichi, /me blah blah blah
#1542 [20:25] <gamakichi> XD
#1543 [20:26] <gamakichi> gmakichi punches andrewkm
#1544 [20:26] <gamakichi> fail
#1545 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> literally, "/me does a thing".
#1546 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> slash em eee.
#1547 [20:26] <gamakichi> so its like /me punches random guy
#1548 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> well, we don't condone violence.
#1549 [20:27] <DopeGhoti> but yes.
#1550 [20:27] <gamakichi> dude you got kicked and you get blown up in the game
#1551 [20:27] <TheNytangel> Uh...
#1552 [20:27] <gamakichi> like if you play the game violence is to be found
#1553 [20:27] <TheNytangel> He was just kidding
#1554 [20:28] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine stabs and kicks me all the time
#1555 [20:28] <gamakichi> XD
#1556 [20:28] * GreyVulpine baps TheNytangel
#1556 [20:28] <TheNytangel> And baps
#1557 [20:29] * DopeGhoti throws vox at TheNytangel
#1557 [20:29] <TheNytangel> And.. they throw stuff at you
#1558 [20:29] <VoxelHead> Wheeee!
#1559 [20:29] <TheNytangel> gamakichi, and VoxelHead is a bot with GS
#1560 [20:29] * mib_to7lhy [mib_to7lhy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1561 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> ??> TheNytangel bot
#1562 [20:29] <VoxelHead> TheNytangel: (bot) I just type quickly.
#1563 [20:30] <TheNytangel> Vox, you're a bot
#1564 [20:30] * gamakichi punches mib_to7Ihy
#1564 [20:30] <TheNytangel> Punch all the mibbits! PUNCH THEMMMM
#1565 [20:30] <mib_to7lhy> okay I need some help. I have tried logging in multiple times into Minecraft and have not been able to log in.
#1566 [20:30] <TheNytangel> ?? 1
#1567 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> what happens when you try?
#1568 [20:30] <TheNytangel> Failure
#1569 [20:31] <mib_to7lhy> it saying log in failed. but I know all of my log in is correct.
#1570 [20:31] <mib_to7lhy> then I tried resetting my password and I haven't gotten an email yet
#1571 [20:31] * gamakichi throws creeper at mib_to7Ihy
#1571 [20:33] <TheNytangel> :o
#1572 [20:33] <VoxelHead> Shucks.
#1573 [20:33] <TheNytangel> He.. was.. a mibbit
#1574 [20:34] <VoxelHead> Mmm mib_to7lhy.
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#1577 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> Giichi: welcome back
#1578 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> so, what is your Minecraft account name, please?
#1579 [20:35] <Giichi> AnimeFreak17
#1580 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> !paid animefreak17
#1581 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> okay, that's a good sign.
#1582 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> what is the username you log into your computer with?
#1583 [20:37] <Giichi> I dont understand?
#1584 [20:37] <Giichi> I normally dont log into my computer.
#1585 [20:38] <TheNytangel> Giichi, what is the username though?
#1586 [20:38] <Giichi> Axel or Nichole
#1587 [20:38] <TheNytangel> Giichi = german?
#1588 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> Giichi: you are certain there is no '!' or '&' or similar punctuation in your username?
#1589 [20:38] <TheNytangel> ??< !
#1590 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> ??> TheNytangel win/!
#1591 [20:39] <VoxelHead> TheNytangel: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#1592 [20:39] <VoxelHead> TheNytangel: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#1593 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> Giichi: you are absolutely certain you ahve the correct username and password when logging in?
#1594 [20:39] <g> ah crap
#1595 [20:39] <TheNytangel> Lol
#1596 [20:39] <g> I did that wrong, sorry :P
#1597 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Fail
#1598 [20:39] <Kealper> fail....lol
#1599 [20:40] <g> lol
#1600 [20:40] <TheNytangel> We *noticed*
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#1602 [20:40] <g> xD
#1603 [20:40] <TheNytangel> Haha I made a pun
#1604 [20:40] <VoxelHead> I will call you... pusstulio.
#1605 [20:40] <TheNytangel> Everyone laugh
#1606 [20:40] * g slaps TheNoodle around a bit with a large ><(((°>.
#1606 [20:40] <Trevor520599> Ello.
#1607 [20:40] <g> blargh
#1608 [20:40] <g> double fail
#1609 [20:40] * g goes back to idling
#1609 [20:40] <TheNoodle> :3
#1610 [20:40] <TheNytangel> Lol
#1611 [20:40] <Trevor520599> :D
#1612 [20:40] <VoxelHead> ;)
#1613 [20:40] <Kealper> lol
#1614 [20:40] <TheNoodle> Why am I getting highlighted? :P
#1615 [20:41] <TheNytangel> Because he doesn't know how to use autocomplete
#1616 [20:41] <Giichi> Yes I'm sure it's correct and I dont have any punctuations in my computer name. I've been able to play before but now out of the blue I can't sign into minecraft
#1617 [20:41] <TheNoodle> Giichi, have you been able to play since 1.8.1?
#1618 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> Giichi: try downloading a new copy of the Minecraft launcher
#1619 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> if that fails, do this:
#1620 [20:41] <Kealper> no.... mr*flea doesn't know how to use autocomplete .->
#1621 [20:41] <Kealper> ._.*
#1622 [20:41] <TheNytangel> !launcher
#1623 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> ??> Giichi win/reinst
#1624 [20:41] <VoxelHead> Giichi: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1625 [20:41] <VoxelHead> Giichi: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1626 [20:41] <Kealper> also, didn't want to hilight him
#1627 [20:41] * mib_5guz02 [mib_5guz02@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1628 [20:41] <TheNytangel> Kealper, AuBot borked again?
#1629 [20:42] * Kealper pokes AuBot
#1629 [20:42] <Kealper> nope
#1630 [20:42] <TheNytangel> !launcher
#1631 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: I think you mean eiher !client or ?? win/client
#1632 [20:42] <TheNytangel> Psh
#1633 [20:42] <TheNytangel> Shuddup
#1634 [20:42] <TheNytangel> !client
#1635 [20:42] <Trevor520599> Well. This IRC is more active then the main one.
#1636 [20:42] <TheNytangel> Just wait until I have christmas break....
#1637 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> Trevor520599: we also try 'n keep it on topic when there are folks what need helpin' (:
#1638 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> howdy by the way.
#1639 [20:42] <TheNytangel> DopeGhoti, but thats so hard to do D:
#1640 [20:43] <Trevor520599> K sorry.
#1641 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> Trevor520599: no apologies needed
#1642 [20:43] <Trevor520599> K.
#1643 [20:44] <DopeGhoti> Trevor520599: my point was feel free to kibitz here (subject to the rules in the topic), but assistance is prioritized
#1644 [20:44] * DopeGhoti didn't mean to chase you off (:
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#1645 [20:44] <TheNytangel> Assistance... prioritized...
#1646 [20:45] <Trevor520599> DopeGhoti: I acctully came for some help with downloading mods.
#1647 [20:45] * TheNytangel does ?? mods
#1647 [20:45] <TheNytangel> ?? mods
#1648 [20:45] <DopeGhoti> we can nudge you in the right direction, but we don't really support mods here
#1649 [20:45] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1650 [20:45] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1651 [20:45] <Trevor520599> Ok.
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#1653 [20:46] <Fernando> Guy's
#1654 [20:46] <Fernando> I need help.
#1655 [20:46] <Fernando> Badly.
#1656 [20:46] <TheNytangel> Nowai
#1657 [20:46] <Fernando> I want to buy Minecraft,
#1658 [20:46] <TheNytangel> Did your appendix explode?
#1659 [20:46] <Fernando> But i get this Error"Return to merchant and try a different payment method We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available)."
#1660 [20:47] <Fernando> Who PMED ME?
#1661 [20:47] <TheNytangel> VoxelHead
#1662 [20:47] <Fernando> Cause i cancled it. :P
#1663 [20:47] <TheNytangel> He said "DON'T SPAM THE CHAT"
#1664 [20:47] <Fernando> "Return to merchant and try a different payment method We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available)."
#1665 [20:47] <TheNytangel> We saw the first time -_-
#1666 [20:47] <Fernando> Can you help me?
#1667 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> Not really- either call PayPal and sort out your issue with them, or use another means of payment such as a credit card.
#1668 [20:50] <Giichi> It didn't work...
#1669 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> Giichi: "it"?
#1670 [20:51] <Giichi> After what Voxel told me I wasn't able to sign in still...
#1671 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> Giichi: are you able to log in on the web site?
#1672 [20:52] <Giichi> Nope.
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#1674 [20:53] <Giichi> I've tried everything and I just can't get in.
#1675 [20:53] <VoxelHead> Then your password is wrong. Try the password recovery function at minecraft.net
#1676 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> then you are definitely mistyping somehting
#1677 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> ?? account
#1678 [20:53] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#1679 [20:53] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
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#1681 [20:53] <Giichi> I've tried that as well.
#1682 [20:53] <Giichi> I still have no received anything.
#1683 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Have you checked all your email addresses you normally use?
#1684 [20:54] <Giichi> Yep. And at the time I got minecraft I only had one email.
#1685 [20:55] <Giichi> I'm afraid I may be hacked. Specially if they can't send me an email.
#1686 [20:56] <VoxelHead> bye mib_f1x5mr
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#1689 [20:57] <mib_h994fv> Why is the minecraft launcher not appearing at all and not lauching?
#1690 [20:58] <felixp771> Why is the minecraft launcher not appearing at all and not lauching?
#1691 [20:58] <cookiemonsta48> hi my mine craft wont let me play online or connect to the minecraft server
#1692 [20:59] <felixp771> Well, mine doesn't even lauches
#1693 [20:59] <cookiemonsta48> o
#1694 [20:59] <cookiemonsta48> that sucks
#1695 [20:59] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :'(
#1696 [21:00] <cookiemonsta48> sad
#1697 [21:00] <felixp771> Yes, it sucks real hard!
#1698 [21:00] <cookiemonsta48> ya
#1699 [21:01] <felixp771> Anybody has an idea why the laucher does not open?
#1700 [21:02] <cookiemonsta48> where is every body
#1701 [21:02] <felixp771> ?!?
#1702 [21:02] <felixp771> I don't know
#1703 [21:03] <cookiemonsta48> voxel head???????????????????????
#1704 [21:03] <VoxelHead> Medium-rare.
#1705 [21:03] <felixp771> what that means?
#1706 [21:04] <cookiemonsta48> heloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
#1707 [21:05] <cookiemonsta48> ?
#1708 [21:05] <cookiemonsta48> ?
#1709 [21:05] <cookiemonsta48> ?
#1710 [21:05] <cookiemonsta48> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/???????????????
#1711 [21:05] <felixp771> What is the "giving / taking" shit?
#1712 [21:06] <cookiemonsta48> ???
#1713 [21:06] <TheNytangel> !kick cookiemonsta48 spam
#1714 [21:06] * AuBot kicked TheNytangel from #minecrafthelp (Reason: heNytangel :No. Just...No.)
#1715 [21:06] * TheNytangel [TheNytangel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1716 [21:06] <cookiemonsta48> NO
#1717 [21:07] <TheNoodle> !kick cookiemonsta48
#1718 [21:07] * AuBot kicked cookiemonsta48 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ookiemonsta48 :Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by TheNoodle with reason: None given.))
#1719 [21:07] <TheNytangel> ......
#1720 [21:07] <TheNytangel> !kick AuBot
#1721 [21:07] <TheNytangel> But...
#1722 [21:07] <TheNoodle> that's weird
#1723 [21:07] <TheNytangel> Kealper, it was supposed to work.. :(
#1724 [21:07] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, can I test?
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#1726 [21:08] <cookiemonsta48> why?
#1727 [21:08] <TheNytangel> Why?
#1728 [21:08] <TheNytangel> Ask yourself that
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#1730 [21:09] <cookiemonsta48> Im not getting any help
#1731 [21:09] <TheNytangel> Doesn't mean you need to spam question marks
#1732 [21:09] <cookiemonsta48> ok sry
#1733 [21:09] <felixp771> Well, could someone help?
#1734 [21:10] <TheNytangel> I'm not going to scroll up to see a question, so ask again
#1735 [21:10] <cookiemonsta48> hi my mine craft wont let me play online or connect to the minecraft server
#1736 [21:10] <felixp771> Well, my minecraft launcher is not opening
#1737 [21:10] <TheNytangel> TheNoodle, food, help them
#1738 [21:11] <felixp771> Do I need to re-write my question or do you got it?
#1739 [21:12] <cookiemonsta48> me to
#1740 [21:12] <felixp771> too*
#1741 [21:12] <cookiemonsta48> what ever
#1742 [21:14] <cookiemonsta48> wheres the noodle
#1743 [21:16] <felixp771> That's an excellent question
#1744 [21:16] <felixp771> TheNoodle ? Where are you?
#1745 [21:17] <TheNoodle> ahhh, so this is where I got highlighted
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#1747 [21:18] <felixp771> Could you help us?
#1748 [21:18] <TheNoodle> Just because nytangel tells me to do something doesn't mean I have to :p
#1749 [21:18] <TheNoodle> But anyway, do you get an error?
#1750 [21:18] <TheNoodle> cookiemonsta48, what error do you get when you login?
#1751 [21:18] <mib_xix04e> I bought minecraft and its been confirmed paid. I just dont know how to download. it does not tell me please help
#1752 [21:18] <felixp771> go on the website and press download
#1753 [21:19] <felixp771> under "Buy it"
#1754 [21:19] <cookiemonsta48> it just sais login failed
#1755 [21:19] <mib_xix04e> i did buy it
#1756 [21:19] <TheNoodle> mib_xix04e, log in at minecraft.net and press the link below the buy now button
#1757 [21:19] <felixp771> press download instead of buy it
#1758 [21:19] <TheNoodle> I'll make that a bit clearer BELOW.
#1759 [21:20] <felixp771> go there http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1760 [21:20] <TheNoodle> cookiemonsta48, can you log in at minecraft.net with the same username and password?
#1761 [21:20] <cookiemonsta48> yes
#1762 [21:20] <TheNoodle> Do you have any antivirus software running?
#1763 [21:21] <cookiemonsta48> I think
#1764 [21:21] <TheNoodle> Does your password have any special characters in it? like % or @
#1765 [21:21] <cookiemonsta48> no
#1766 [21:22] <TheNoodle> Okay, do two things, redownload the launcher and change your password at minecraft.net
#1767 [21:22] <TheNoodle> :resetpass
#1768 [21:22] <TheNoodle> heh, anyway, reset your password on the site :p
#1769 [21:22] <cookiemonsta48> okay will do thanks 4 the hepl
#1770 [21:23] <felixp771> Well, could I ask you some help TheNoodle
#1771 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> ??+ mc.net/password|To change your password, log into http://www.minecraft.net, and then go here: http://www.minecraft.net/profile/password
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#1773 [21:23] <TheNoodle> Sure felixp771, but I already asked you a question :P
#1774 [21:24] <felixp771> Really? :P what is it?
#1775 [21:24] <TheNoodle> 'do you get any errors?
#1776 [21:25] <felixp771> No, there is no error message
#1777 [21:25] <TheNoodle> black screen when you run the client?
#1778 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> The minecraft application doesn't run at all? You don't get a login prompt that pops up?
#1779 [21:26] <felixp771> there is nothing that pops up when I click on the minecraft.exe icon
#1780 [21:26] <GreyVulpine> Can either be that you do not have enough RAM on your computer, or you don't have java installed/java is corrupt
#1781 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> huh. I forgot I still have an Alpha code. (:
#1782 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Can you tell me how much RAM you have on the system?
#1783 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> anywho, hometime (:
#1784 [21:27] * GreyVulpine waves
#1784 [21:27] <felixp771> If you explain me how to check that I sure can!
#1785 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Press ctrl-shift-esc to bring up your task manager in windows. Check the performance tab. Look at physical memory. What does it say under.... total?
#1786 [21:29] <felixp771> It says total: 4095
#1787 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> Then you have 4 gigs of RAM, which should be more than enough. Could you try uninstalling and reinstalling java?
#1788 [21:30] <felixp771> I already did that
#1789 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Alright then...
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#1791 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Where do you have the minecraft.exe? On your desktop?
#1792 [21:32] <felixp771> Yes
#1793 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Right click on your desktop, choose new -> text document
#1794 [21:33] <helpplz> does anyone know how to play mine craft classic on mac?
#1795 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't matter what you name the file right now. just go into it, add:
#1796 [21:33] <helpplz> what
#1797 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> wasn't directed at you helpplz
#1798 [21:33] <helpplz> oh
#1799 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> felixp771 - For the first line in the text document, put in: java -Xms256M -Xmx256M -jar minecraft.exe
#1800 [21:34] <felixp771> actually, I think I found the problem! i think my java got an error somewhere
#1801 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Ah, okay then
#1802 [21:34] <helpplz> helpplz
#1803 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> helpplz - Has minecraft classic worked before on your mac?
#1804 [21:35] <helpplz> no
#1805 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> helpplz - Have you tried other browsers?
#1806 [21:35] <helpplz> i just started and its not working
#1807 [21:35] <helpplz> no i haven't but i can rty
#1808 [21:35] <helpplz> try
#1809 [21:35] <Scott> GreyVulpine: It has never worked for me on here either. I never bothered to figure out why though.
#1810 [21:35] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1810 [21:35] <Scott> Regardless of the browser. On snow leopard and lion.
#1811 [21:35] <felixp771> Well, thank you GreyVulpine
#1812 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> felixp771 - Glad you got it straightened out
#1813 [21:36] <helpplz> do you know if someone will fix this
#1814 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Scott - Not an isolated issue... but I don't have access to a mac to really test this out
#1815 [21:36] <helpplz> ok well thnx anyway
#1816 [21:36] <Scott> Well I'd offer to setup teamviewer for you but I have confidential data on here so I can't :(
#1817 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I really don't have the motivation right now either
#1818 [21:38] <Scott> Today is a sucky day! :D
#1819 [21:38] <Giichi> I'm with you
#1820 [21:38] <Scott> I almost had a panic attack earlier. :(
#1821 [21:38] <Scott> I feel awful now.
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#1824 [21:43] <Beto_CR> some on help me
#1825 [21:43] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> Beto_CR attitude
#1826 [21:43] <VoxelHead> Beto_CR: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1827 [21:43] <VoxelHead> Beto_CR: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
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#1829 [21:44] <Beto_CR891> help
#1830 [21:44] <VoxelHead> Beto_CR891: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#1831 [21:44] <Beto_CR891> ok
#1832 [21:44] <Beto_CR891> fatal error 4 null
#1833 [21:44] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Beto_CR: and joining with clones doesnt help.
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#1836 [21:45] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Beto_CR891: delete your .minecraft/bin folder and log in again
#1837 [21:47] <Beto_CR891> no not work
#1838 [21:47] <Scott> Did you actually do it?
#1839 [21:47] <Beto_CR891> yes
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#1841 [21:48] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> Beto_CR891 java/version
#1842 [21:48] <VoxelHead> Beto_CR891: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1843 [21:48] <VoxelHead> Beto_CR891: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1844 [21:49] <Beto_CR891> (Version 6 Update 29)
#1845 [21:50] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Scott: 4-null could be firewall/av right? *forgets the usual causes for that*
#1846 [21:51] <Beto_CR891> ty is the antivirus
#1847 [21:51] <|Kiikun|Janus|> :3
#1848 [21:51] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ah.. havent seen THAT webchat before.
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#1850 [21:54] * |Kiikun|Janus| feels the urge to caw...
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#1852 [21:55] <kermi> it says at installation that pixals arnt acelleratid what do i do
#1853 [21:56] <|Kiikun|Janus|> kermi: update your video drivers.
#1854 [21:56] <|Kiikun|Janus|> kermi: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, HyperOS, or Uplink OS?
#1855 [21:56] <kermi> windos
#1856 [21:56] <kermi> windows
#1857 [21:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> kermi: happen to know who made your graphics chipset? nvidia, ati/amd, or intel?
#1858 [21:57] <kermi> i think intel
#1859 [21:57] <kermi> i dont know
#1860 [21:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ok nm that then.. do what VoxelHead says.
#1861 [21:57] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ??> kermi win/dxdiag
#1862 [21:57] <VoxelHead> kermi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1863 [21:57] <VoxelHead> kermi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1864 [21:58] <kermi> wheres win
#1865 [21:59] <|Kiikun|Janus|> ?? win/key
#1866 [21:59] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1867 [22:04] <kermi> http://mibpaste.com/0ZOjl1
#1868 [22:04] <kermi> that it
#1869 [22:04] <|Kiikun|Janus|> thats... *refreshes* yup.. still blank
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#1871 [22:05] <|Kiikun|Janus|> kermi: use www.pastebin.com
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#1873 [22:06] <lo0gan> voxel head sorry i got disconected
#1874 [22:06] <|Kiikun|Janus|> and im headed home now o.o
#1875 [22:07] <lo0gan> o
#1876 [22:07] <lo0gan> buy
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#1878 [22:09] <ProjectKyle> Hey. Will Mine craft work on a Intel video card driver
#1879 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> On some
#1880 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how old it is, and how much RAM is on the system
#1881 [22:10] <ProjectKyle> I have a moble intel (R) 945GM Express Chipset Family
#1882 [22:10] <ProjectKyle> RAM?
#1883 [22:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes. RAM, random access memory.
#1884 [22:10] <ProjectKyle> Ah. Got it!
#1885 [22:11] <ProjectKyle> So. If I make more roome fore memory. I might get it to work
#1886 [22:11] <GreyVulpine> That, or you can try launching minecraft with less RAM.
#1887 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> The deal is, with Intel chipsets, they share system RAM to do 3d acceleration. Your system RAM, is shared among all running programs, your operating system, as well as minecraft.
#1888 [22:12] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft, tries to reserve up to a gig of RAM itself, sometimes hogging all the RAM of older systems, which don't have that much RAM to begin with
#1889 [22:13] <GreyVulpine> With the 945, it's not a recent chipset, but I bet it has a fair chance of running minecraft itself
#1890 [22:14] <ProjectKyle> OK. Im not varry tec savy. But is there a way I can reduse the amout of RAM Im using with the game
#1891 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> Yes, I assume you're on windows?
#1892 [22:15] <ProjectKyle> Yup!
#1893 [22:15] <VoxelHead> wheeeee Yup
#1894 [22:15] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :<
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#1896 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Then you downloaded the minecraft.exe app somewhere on your computer.
#1897 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Go to the same folder where you have the minecraft.exe, and make a new text file.
#1898 [22:16] <ProjectKyle> OK, Working on it
#1899 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> In it, you'll put in this line: java -Xms256M -Xmx256M -jar minecraft.exe
#1900 [22:18] <GreyVulpine> Go up to file -> save as. Name it anything that ends in a ".bat", and change the file type to "all files" from ".txt"
#1901 [22:18] <ProjectKyle> I got a little box on the lower left side of the screen. It says Minecraft (1) Exe
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#1903 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> Rename it back to just Minecraft.exe
#1904 [22:19] <|Kiikun|Janus|> hi grey :3
#1905 [22:19] <GreyVulpine> \o
#1906 [22:20] <ProjectKyle> It wont let me. It just says "Open, Always show files of this tipe. And Show folder
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#1908 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Ah, you're in the browser's download history. Click on Show folder
#1909 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> That should open the folder where you have minecraft.exe downloaded to
#1910 [22:20] <ProjectKyle> Got it! Now I can rename it
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#1912 [22:21] <TheNytangel> ProjectKyle = projectile
#1913 [22:21] <TheNytangel> :o
#1914 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Feel free to move it to a spot where you can access it easier, on your desktop for example
#1915 [22:21] <VoxelHead> blimey
#1916 [22:21] <ProjectKyle> OK. Its back to minecraft
#1917 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Okay. In the same folder where you have minecraft.exe, right click, choose new -> text document
#1918 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't matter what you name the file right now, just have it open so that you can add some text in there.
#1919 [22:23] <ProjectKyle> OK. I am right clicking it. I dont see a choos new. Do I need to be under properties?
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#1921 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> Don't right click the file, right click in the white space of your folder where you have minecraft.exe
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#1924 [22:24] <Damein> Voxelhead!
#1925 [22:24] <VoxelHead> =)
#1926 [22:24] <Damein> hi voxelhead
#1927 [22:24] <VoxelHead> :o)
#1928 [22:25] * Damein gives voxelhead hug
#1928 [22:25] <VoxelHead> ~rarr~
#1929 [22:25] <Damein> ah!
#1930 [22:25] <VoxelHead> Ah
#1931 [22:25] <ProjectKyle> I have it on my dextop now. Should I move it back to the folder?
#1932 [22:25] <VoxelHead> Damein, please don't spam with me. Use ##voxelhead for that
#1933 [22:25] <Damein> ok
#1934 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> ProjectKyle - You need to have it where minecraft.exe is
#1935 [22:26] <Damein> wait vulp is vox urs?
#1936 [22:26] <Damein> or dope
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#1938 [22:26] <VoxelHead> I belong to Vox
#1939 [22:26] <Damein> hilarious
#1940 [22:26] <|Kiikun|Janus|> vox is self-owning!
#1941 [22:26] <VoxelHead> I am my own Master.
#1942 [22:26] <Damein> kii no he isnt
#1943 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> ProjectKyle - Got that new text document where you have minecraft.exe?
#1944 [22:27] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Damein: yes he is... check his certificates :P he's self-signed!
#1945 [22:27] <Damein> kii hows the girlfriend?
#1946 [22:27] <Damein> haha funny
#1947 [22:27] <VoxelHead> the giant flesh-eating demon squid has escaped! security! protect your master! GIR! Defensive mode!
#1948 [22:27] <Damein> wtf?
#1949 [22:27] <AndrewPH> I agree VoxelHead
#1950 [22:27] <ProjectKyle> Im a bit confused
#1951 [22:27] <VoxelHead> I have tourettes, things sometimes blurt out of me.
#1952 [22:27] <Damein> vox, damein or kii?
#1953 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> ProjectKyle - Got that new text document where you have minecraft.exe?
#1954 [22:28] <Damein> lol someones controlling vox right now
#1955 [22:28] <|Kiikun|Janus|> Damein: vox told you to go spam in ##voxelhead
#1956 [22:28] <ProjectKyle> Im still haveing truble creating a text D
#1957 [22:28] <Damein> i know.....
#1958 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> ProjectKyle - Alright. Can you move minecraft.exe to your desktop?
#1959 [22:28] <Damein> but its fun here cuz i can talk to you kii
#1960 [22:28] <ProjectKyle> Yes. Its on
#1961 [22:29] <ProjectKyle> Its on my desktop now
#1962 [22:29] <VoxelHead> This channel is for minecrafthelp. Use a different channel to spam please
#1963 [22:29] <Damein> bye bye kii and vox !!!!! love you vox
#1964 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> ProjectKyle - Alright. Can you right click on your desktop now. Do you see a new -> text document option?
#1965 [22:29] <ProjectKyle> Yes!
#1966 [22:30] <ProjectKyle> Ok. Now I understand
#1967 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> Great. Click it. Doesn't matter what you name it now. Just open it
#1968 [22:30] <ProjectKyle> Open
#1969 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> In it, you'll put in this line: java -Xms256M -Xmx256M -jar minecraft.exe
#1970 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Go up to file -> save as. Name it anything that ends in a ".bat", and change the file type to "all files" from ".txt"
#1971 [22:31] <ProjectKyle> I copyed and pasted the link in the text
#1972 [22:31] <ProjectKyle> java -Xms256M -Xmx256M -jar minecraft.exe
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#1974 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Save it as any filename that ends in a .bat
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#1976 [22:33] <ProjectKyle> OK. I think it saved in .bat
#1977 [22:33] <ProjectKyle> And I did all files
#1978 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> Great. Double click on the .bat file you just made to run minecraft.
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#1980 [22:33] <GreyVulpine> See if it'll give you that error now
#1981 [22:34] <ProjectKyle> It just took me to the text
#1982 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> erm, look at the file, does it end in .bat or .bat.txt?
#1983 [22:35] <ProjectKyle> No. I tiped it in though,
#1984 [22:35] <ProjectKyle> Id took it off
#1985 [22:35] <ProjectKyle> it*
#1986 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1987 [22:36] <ProjectKyle> Wen I sirch fore it. In ends in bat. But the same thing. Just the text file
#1988 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Could you try making the text file again? Not sure what went wrong there.
#1989 [22:37] <|Kiikun|> ProjectKyle: is the icon still a sheet of paper like a text files is? or a window with a gear?
#1990 [22:37] <ProjectKyle> OK. I will try again
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#1992 [22:38] <ProjectKyle> The text file can be on the descktop right? It dosnt need to be stord inside the mincraft file?
#1993 [22:38] <|Kiikun|> sorry if im stepping on your toes GreyVulpine :P i have clodhoppers for feet
#1994 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> No worrie
#1995 [22:39] <|Kiikun|> ProjectKyle: same folder as minecraft.exe. if minecraft.exe is on the desktop then it shoudl be on the desktop with it
#1996 [22:39] <ProjectKyle> They both are
#1997 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Then you should be fine.
#1998 [22:40] * |Kiikun| is also fairly sure batch files have 'edit' as a rightclick option...
#1998 [22:41] <ProjectKyle> And Im not saposed to click on the Mincraft Exe. Right?
#1999 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Right, the .bat should launch the minecraft application now
#2000 [22:42] <ProjectKyle> Hmm
#2001 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Can you right click on the .bat file, go to properties. What does it say the file type is?
#2002 [22:45] <ProjectKyle> MS-DOS Batch File
#2003 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> That should be right then..
#2004 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Can you right click on it and choose Open?
#2005 [22:47] <ProjectKyle> Wate. I may have found the problem.
#2006 [22:48] <ProjectKyle> The file I saved it under was a bat. But the one on my desc top is still a text
#2007 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> aah.
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#2009 [22:48] <ProjectKyle> Blah. Now My computer froze
#2010 [22:49] <ProjectKyle> If I logg of. Its becouse it kicked me out
#2011 [22:49] <ProjectKyle> Internet is still working though
#2012 [22:51] <ProjectKyle> OK. I saved the name under .Bat. But the one on the desck top still says text document
#2013 [22:52] <GreyVulpine> Try editing the one on your desktop, you may have the wrong one open
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#2015 [22:53] <VoxelHead> I like them ;)
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#2017 [22:55] <ProjectKyle> OK. I changed it
#2018 [22:55] <ProjectKyle> But all its doing now is takong me to a blank screen fore a split second and then kicking me out
#2019 [22:56] <GreyVulpine> Strange, can you right click on the bat, edit it, and put in "pause" without quotes onto the second line?
#2020 [22:57] <ProjectKyle> Yes. Now the black screen is there
#2021 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> What does it say?
#2022 [23:00] <ProjectKyle> C:\Documents and settings|Kyle Burton\Desktop>Java -Xms256M -Xms256M -jaraft.exe Unable to access jarfile mincraft .exe
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#2025 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> Do you have minecraft.exe in the same place where you have the .bat?
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#2027 [23:02] <ProjectKyle> Yes. On my descktop
#2028 [23:04] <ProjectKyle> And I got. "java -Xms256M -Xmx256M -jar minecraft.exe pause" On it
#2029 [23:04] <ProjectKyle> No quotations
#2030 [23:04] <ProjectKyle> and pause on second line
#2031 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#2032 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> All of this should be working..
#2033 [23:09] <ProjectKyle> My computer is an 07 XP. Dos that change any thing?
#2034 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't
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#2036 [23:11] <ProjectKyle> I must have don somthing wrong. But I cant figure out what. I got the Minecraft file. I got the Bat file. Was there any thing els?
#2037 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you have .bat on the desktop? How are you launching the .bat?
#2038 [23:12] <ProjectKyle> Im left clicking on it
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#2040 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> And it's definitely on the desktop?
#2041 [23:13] <ProjectKyle> Yup. I saved it under. "New Document.Bat" No qoutes
#2042 [23:14] <ProjectKyle> And its a MS-DOS Batch File
#2043 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> That should be right then... hmm.
#2044 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Alright, new plan. Go to http://www.minecraft.net/download -- Click on "Show all platforms, do you see minecraft.jar?
#2045 [23:16] <ProjectKyle> I see "minecraft_server.jar (621 KB) "
#2046 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> Not that one. Do you see the "Show all platforms" link below minecraft.exe?
#2047 [23:16] <ProjectKyle> Yes
#2048 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Download that to your desktop
#2049 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> RIght click on the .bat, choose edit
#2050 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Change the first line to read:
#2051 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2052 [23:18] <ProjectKyle> A bunch of more options came up. "minecraft.jar (89 KB)."?
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#2054 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> Right, download that minecraft.jar
#2055 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> Put it on your desktop
#2056 [23:18] <ProjectKyle> Downloding
#2057 [23:19] <ProjectKyle> OK. Now im in
#2058 [23:20] <ProjectKyle> Yes! It works!
#2059 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> \o/
#2060 [23:20] <ProjectKyle> Haha! Thank you so much fore yore time Grey!
#2061 [23:21] <VoxelHead> Well, The latest plan is about to explode!
#2062 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Glad we could help
#2063 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> You can modify that .bat to suit your tastes. it launches minecraft with 256 megs of RAM
#2064 [23:21] <ProjectKyle> Got it!
#2065 [23:22] <ProjectKyle> Just re tipe the 250
#2066 [23:23] <ProjectKyle> Well. I am off. Going to give it a try now. Thanks again! Ttyl
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