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#18 [01:18] <Shadow141> can i have assit
#19 [01:18] <Shadow141> assist
#20 [01:19] <Shadow141> hello?
#21 [01:21] <lemon-rev> ?? ask
#22 [01:21] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#23 [01:21] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#36 [02:14] <ambrosia82> I have an issue where after leaving the spawn area and returning, the client and server javaw.exe spike in both memory and CPU usage. Things i've tried include reloading the client/server apps and defragging the game files. If I leave region 0 and go to region 1, the freezing stops. Any thoughts?
#37 [02:15] <Wug> might be a corrupted world
#38 [02:15] <Chris> trying to unload and reload the same chunks at the same time?
#39 [02:15] <Wug> did someone die there? that sounds a bit like what happens if there are a zillion exp orbs
#40 [02:16] <ambrosia82> When I close out of the client and rejoin the server in region 0, i am loading as if I am falling through the workd. I can see the blocks being displayed, but its really slow.
#41 [02:16] <ambrosia82> is there a way to "fix" a corrupted world?
#42 [02:16] * Kealper thinks it's what wug said
#42 [02:16] <Wug> its usually because of a ton of entities somewhere
#43 [02:16] <ambrosia82> No deaths. I am the only one on the server right now.
#44 [02:16] <Wug> how they get there seems to be related to corruption of some sort
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#46 [02:17] <Wug> you can open the world in mcedit, find the spot thats causing the lag, and delete the entities
#47 [02:17] <ambrosia82> Could I use somethign like MCEdit and look for the corrupted blocks?
#48 [02:17] <Wug> its probably entities, not blocksw
#49 [02:17] <Wug> the server is used to millions and millions of blocks
#50 [02:18] <ambrosia82> entities like items then? mobs/animals/crops?
#51 [02:18] <Wug> yeah
#52 [02:18] <Wug> they show up in mcedit as red spots
#53 [02:18] <Wug> or something
#54 [02:19] <Wug> been a while since I've seen them
#55 [02:19] <ambrosia82> ok.
#56 [02:19] <ambrosia82> at least that gives me a place to look.
#57 [02:19] <Wug> you'll probably find a spot thats like a solid red blob
#58 [02:20] <ambrosia82> I will look at that right now - thanks
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#61 [02:20] <mr_pants> hello
#62 [02:20] <ambrosia82> hi
#63 [02:21] <mr_pants> can you help me
#64 [02:21] <mib_4t2jbc> i need help
#65 [02:21] <Wug> then ask
#66 [02:22] <mr_pants> um
#67 [02:22] <mr_pants> I want to play on my friends server... but i cant seem to play
#68 [02:23] <Wug> account name please
#69 [02:23] <mr_pants> when I join I just fall to the void
#70 [02:23] <mr_pants> Cenvix
#71 [02:23] <Wug> !paid Cenvix
#72 [02:23] <mr_pants> yeah
#73 [02:23] <Wug> its probably a firewall issue on your friends side
#74 [02:23] <Wug> ask him to come here
#75 [02:24] <Wug> you could try disabling your firewall and seeing if it works then, in which case you'd need to add an exception
#76 [02:24] <Wug> but I suspect its on the server's side
#77 [02:24] <mr_pants> oh
#78 [02:25] <mr_pants> so what do i do
#79 [02:25] <mib_4t2jbc> my freind downloaded minecraft in my computer using his account but it doesn't let me play in my account:(
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#81 [02:33] <mr_pants> soooo what do I do
#82 [02:35] <ambrosia82> @wug - I found 2 huge blobs of red by the spawn area. good call. I am testing now and will update here.
#83 [02:37] <ambrosia82> And that fixed it. Good work Wug!
#84 [02:38] <Wug> :)
#85 [02:39] <Chris> hey Wug, do you have any interest in being in #essentials?
#86 [02:39] <Chris> like at all?
#87 [02:40] <Wug> Chris: mmmm maybe? why
#88 [02:40] <Wug> I don't use bukkit much. at all in fact
#89 [02:40] <Chris> KH was going around banning every bot he could think of, inc. wugbot, which is attached to your nickserv
#90 [02:40] <Wug> nah, I dont care
#91 [02:40] <Chris> okay then
#92 [02:40] <Wug> tell him to ban it by nick
#93 [02:40] <Wug> not by hostname or account
#94 [02:40] <Chris> he's akicking them
#95 [02:41] <Wug> since I share both of those with wugbot
#96 [02:41] <Chris> I agree with you but its so that +r's can't overrule it
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#98 [02:41] <Wug> you can still akick WugBot!*@*
#99 [02:42] <Chris> ah well.. if you ever want to come in... you'll need to contact KH
#100 [02:42] <Chris> don't take it personal xD
#101 [02:42] <Wug> meh
#102 [02:42] <Chris> its the same with everyone with a bot on their nickserv we know about xD
#103 [02:42] <Wug> is kh his nick
#104 [02:42] <Chris> khobbits
#105 [02:43] <Chris> its only #essentials afaik
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#116 [03:31] <Gazionetadmin> is there channel that helps people with redstone?
#117 [03:31] <TheNoodle> #minecraft might.
#118 [03:33] <Gazionetadmin> they banned me -_-
#119 [03:34] <TheNoodle> I doubt it.
#120 [03:35] <TheNoodle> Did you register your nick?
#121 [03:35] <TheNoodle> Hmmm, you haven't, rejoin #help please.
#122 [03:35] <Gazionetadmin> yeah that fag banned me
#123 [03:35] * AuBot kicked Gazionetadmin from #minecrafthelp (Reason: azionetadmin :Please keep it civil.)
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#125 [03:36] <TheNoodle> Who?
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#127 [03:36] <Gazionetadmin> i forgot his name
#128 [03:36] <TheNoodle> No one has been banned in #minecraft recently.
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#130 [03:36] <Gazionetadmin> he was teaseing me so i threatend him
#131 [03:36] <Gazionetadmin> a real mature op -_-
#132 [03:36] <TheNoodle> You threatened a minecraft op?
#133 [03:36] <TheNoodle> And you call him immature?
#134 [03:36] <Gazionetadmin> his name starts with s
#135 [03:36] <TheNoodle> !kick Gazionetadmin
#136 [03:36] * AuBot kicked Gazionetadmin from #minecrafthelp (Reason: azionetadmin :Uh oh! Looks like someone should have read the rules! (Issued by TheNoodle with reason: None given.))
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#138 [03:37] <Gazionetadmin> can you not please
#139 [03:37] <Gazionetadmin> this was angers ago
#140 [03:37] <TheNoodle> Why?
#141 [03:37] * Kealper pokes his head up
#141 [03:37] <Gazionetadmin> so is 1.0 beta coming out still
#142 [03:37] <[L]> 1.0? Lol
#143 [03:38] <Gazionetadmin> i mean 1.10 beta
#144 [03:39] <TheNoodle> 1.9?
#145 [03:39] <Kealper> 2.7?
#146 [03:39] <TheNoodle> 1.6_27?
#147 [03:40] <Gazionetadmin> will the end have a portal back to the main world once the full version comes out?
#148 [03:40] <Kealper> 3.1415926?
#149 [03:40] <Chris> lol kealper
#150 [03:40] <Kealper> i'd assume so
#151 [03:40] <Kealper> the End is quite not completed at all
#152 [03:41] <Gazionetadmin> will it be complete in the full release
#153 [03:41] <Gazionetadmin> it sucks atm
#154 [03:41] <Kealper> well, featureless suck is what you get when you play a beta of a beta
#155 [03:42] <Gazionetadmin> i already know why they released prereleases to stop people complaining
#156 [03:43] <Gazionetadmin> im not
#157 [03:43] <TheNoodle> "it sucks atm"
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#160 [04:01] <dylanbarberdude> hi
#161 [04:01] <TheNoodle> wb
#162 [04:01] <dylanbarberdude> Why im i banned from #aubotdevchan ?
#163 [04:02] <TheNoodle> no idea.
#164 [04:02] <dylanbarberdude> how will i test aubot now
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#166 [04:03] <TheNoodle> you...won't?
#167 [04:03] <dylanbarberdude> !check one.yogiverse.com
#168 [04:03] <TheNoodle> you can also just message it.
#169 [04:03] <dylanbarberdude> what
#170 [04:04] <Chris> ./msg aubot !check
#171 [04:05] <dylanbarberdude> it rejects me
#172 [04:05] <dylanbarberdude> wtf
#173 [04:05] <TheNoodle> That's because you've been using it too much.
#174 [04:05] <dylanbarberdude> what
#175 [04:06] <dylanbarberdude> OMG
#176 [04:07] <dylanbarberdude> Notch just pmed me but...
#177 [04:07] <FluR0> Why?
#178 [04:07] <dylanbarberdude> it was a fake
#179 [04:07] <FluR0> lol.
#180 [04:07] <TheNoodle> hurr.
#181 [04:07] <TheNoodle> /msg nickserv info notch
#182 [04:07] <TheNoodle> He isn't online you derp :P
#183 [04:07] <dylanbarberdude> it was NOtch not Notch
#184 [04:09] <FluR0> Can an op do /whois flur0 and tell me what vhost you see?
#185 [04:09] <dylanbarberdude> notches private ip is 78.77.174.171
#186 [04:09] <TheNoodle> Flur0, Esper doesn't allow vhosts.
#187 [04:10] <TheNoodle> + an op won't see anything different, you'd be looking for an oper
#188 [04:10] <FluR0> My irc bouncer should set my vhost to irc.flur0.com. Humm strange, needs more work.
#189 [04:10] <Chris> FluR0, you using an RDNS or a vhosting bnc?
#190 [04:11] <TheNoodle> You understand that a vhost is provided by the irc server?
#191 [04:11] <Chris> vhosting bnc.. you gotta change your rdns to change your hostname is
#192 [04:11] <FluR0> I'm hosting my bnc on my dedicated server and rdnsed irc.flur0.com and set irc.flur0.com's A record to an IP on the server.
#193 [04:11] <Chris> flur0, i nslooked up your IP, no rdns
#194 [04:12] <TheNoodle> mmhm, just saying, that's not a vhost.
#195 [04:12] <FluR0> Humm strange, interserver might take a while to update there rndns
#196 [04:12] <Chris> http://whois.domaintools.com/209.159.152.50 <- it says here under resolve host when it works
#197 [04:12] <Kealper> it all depends on the DNS server that the end user uses
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#199 [04:13] <TheNoodle> In this case, linode/whatever esper chooses.
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#201 [04:13] <Kealper> if they update their records for the reverse lookup, then it shows to all that dns server's users, which is why you usually see statements about dns changes taking up to 24 hours to take full effect
#202 [04:14] <FluR0> Yeah, I'm guessing thats whats happning. It might take 24 hours.
#203 [04:14] <Kealper> i wouldn't expect it to take more than a few hours to get good propagation
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#208 [04:19] <FluR0> Aaaaand, Were back
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#221 [05:12] <scotty> hi
#222 [05:12] <scotty> can someone help me
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#224 [05:13] <scotty> please can someone help me with minecraft
#225 [05:13] <lemon-rev> scotty whats up
#226 [05:13] <scotty> lemon my game says bad video car driver
#227 [05:13] <lemon-rev> ok windows / mac ?
#228 [05:13] <scotty> iv tryied so much watched like 1 hour of youtube videos but cant find out how to fix it
#229 [05:13] <TheNoodle> Do you have your license?
#230 [05:13] <scotty> windows
#231 [05:14] <scotty> license?\
#232 [05:14] <scotty> windows vista
#233 [05:14] <lemon-rev> k
#234 [05:14] <TheNoodle> You need a drivers license to drive a car, it appears minecraft believes you are a bad driver.
#235 [05:14] * TheNoodle leaves
#235 [05:14] <scotty> I JUST WANT TO PLAY BUT I CANT :( *crys* would pay $20 bucks to play
#236 [05:14] <lemon-rev> lol
#237 [05:14] <lemon-rev> ok
#238 [05:14] <lemon-rev> ??> scotty win/dxdiag
#239 [05:14] <lemon-rev> please
#240 [05:15] <VoxelHead> scotty: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#241 [05:15] <VoxelHead> scotty: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#242 [05:17] <scotty> i didnt get sent a link?
#243 [05:17] <scotty> do i download or copy to click board
#244 [05:18] <lemon-rev> scotty when you paste the info into pastebin.com you can submit it and get the link from the http bar or the address bar
#245 [05:18] <scotty> http://pastebin.com/H6pfptg4
#246 [05:18] <scotty> that?
#247 [05:18] <lemon-rev> ty
#248 [05:19] <scotty> Thank you so much for helping im so stuck :(
#249 [05:19] <lemon-rev> give me a minute please ill look this up
#250 [05:20] <scotty> thanks
#251 [05:21] <scotty> lemon got any ideas?
#252 [05:21] <lemon-rev> ok
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#254 [05:22] <lemon-rev> http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_vista-32.aspx < can you download the catalyst software suite 63.4 meg off that site say on your desktop and install it when you have it down on your desktop please
#255 [05:23] <scotty> kk wait 2 sec
#256 [05:23] <lemon-rev> scotty you where getting that error because the driver set that you where useing didnt have a date sigiture on it, and is comming back as bad drivers so this should fix it crosses fingers
#257 [05:23] <lemon-rev> take your time
#258 [05:24] <scotty> ok thanks so much its downloading
#259 [05:25] <lemon-rev> scotty dont thank me yet
#260 [05:25] <lemon-rev> lol
#261 [05:26] <scotty> it says select express or custom install and then click next : express or custom
#262 [05:26] <lemon-rev> express please
#263 [05:28] <scotty> ok i clicked finish
#264 [05:28] <lemon-rev> yup
#265 [05:28] <scotty> try minecraft?
#266 [05:28] <lemon-rev> and try and run minecraft again yup
#267 [05:28] <scotty> it just sai
#268 [05:28] <scotty> said
#269 [05:28] <scotty> catalyst control center: host application has stopped working
#270 [05:29] <scotty> close program or cheak online solution
#271 [05:29] <lemon-rev> scotty can you do a reboot,
#272 [05:29] <lemon-rev> and test minecraft again please
#273 [05:29] <scotty> reboot?
#274 [05:29] <lemon-rev> start menu , shut down, reboot
#275 [05:29] <scotty> sorry im not really good at computers :(
#276 [05:30] <lemon-rev> just told you how to do it
#277 [05:30] <scotty> i know
#278 [05:30] <scotty> im just saying
#279 [05:30] <lemon-rev> its ok
#280 [05:30] <scotty> OMFGFGFGFG ITS WORKING
#281 [05:30] <lemon-rev> ?
#282 [05:30] <scotty> I LOVE U MAN
#283 [05:30] <lemon-rev> lol
#284 [05:30] <scotty> THANKS
#285 [05:30] <scotty> THANKS
#286 [05:30] <lemon-rev> ok.......
#287 [05:30] <scotty> THANKS
#288 [05:30] <scotty> LOVE Y
#289 [05:30] <scotty> U
#290 [05:31] <scotty> Lemon if i saw u irl i would give u $50 :D
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#292 [05:32] <Wug> scotty: lol dont hurt yourself
#293 [05:32] <Wug> glad it works ;)
#294 [05:32] <lemon-rev> yea just enjoy the game
#295 [05:32] <lemon-rev> :)
#296 [05:32] <scotty> thanks guys
#297 [05:33] <scotty> multiplayer ftw!
#298 [05:33] <lemon-rev> scotty i mainly play singleplayer so sorry :)
#299 [05:34] <scotty> thats fine
#300 [05:34] <scotty> im just happy someone decent helped me out :D
#301 [05:34] <scotty> sick of them stupid youtube videos that dont work
#302 [05:35] <scotty> well im off thanks so much mate
#303 [05:35] <lemon-rev> later
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#306 [05:47] <Chris> your rdns works FluR0
#307 [05:49] <FluR0> Yeah
#308 [05:49] <FluR0> Had to put a support ticket in.
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#320 [06:41] <sadasd> GreyVulpine
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#322 [06:48] <Ryladine> sadasd Do you need assistance?
#323 [06:50] <sadasd> Yes.
#324 [06:51] <sadasd> How long i have to wait for answer , because yesterday i send a support ticket ..
#325 [06:52] <TheNoodle> :O
#326 [06:52] <TheNoodle> Where did you send a ticket?
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#328 [06:54] <sadasd> minecraft.net/support
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#337 [07:39] <Andreas> hi culd anyone please help me?
#338 [07:39] <Andreas> when i trying to start minecraft java says( Culd not create the Java viritual machine ). whats wrong?
#339 [07:41] <GreyVulpine> Java. Uninstall it completely and reinstall it
#340 [07:42] <Andreas> ui've tryed that yestaerday, still says the same thing, works to play on webbrowser but not in the exe file
#341 [07:45] <Andreas> any other idea?
#342 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> Does it say anything else
#343 [07:46] <Andreas> nope, just wahat have told ya...
#344 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> That error's generally java at fault, unless you don't have enough RAM.
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#346 [07:49] <Andreas> i have played minecraft before so i have enough RAM so it's not that.
#347 [07:50] <Andreas> and i cant find anything wrong with java eather.
#348 [07:50] <GreyVulpine> In our experience, that error has to do with java. Don't think we've come across any other causes
#349 [07:51] <GreyVulpine> Just ensure you've completely uninstalled and wiped java before reinstalling java 6, and it should clear itself up
#350 [07:52] <Andreas> what shuld i look for, i've tryet do uppdate, remove, reinstall and look in Java but i culdent find a thing
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#352 [07:53] <GreyVulpine> I assume you're on windows?
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#354 [07:53] <Andreas> yes, but i have the older windows xp
#355 [07:54] <RichardG> hi, i keep getting "could not create context" crashes after playing MC for some time
#356 [07:54] <RichardG> been here before, a helper suggested updating to Java 6 Update 29
#357 [07:54] <RichardG> but that didn't do anything for me.
#358 [07:54] <RichardG> it happens after i play for a while and restart the game
#359 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Andreas - Try uninstalling all java using your windows control panel, in add/remove programs. Once you've done that, you can try a program called JavaRA to remove any traces of java.
#360 [07:54] <RichardG> and is only solved by rebooting
#361 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> Andreas - You can get javaRA from:
#362 [07:54] <GreyVulpine> ??> Andreas javara
#363 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> ??> Andreas win/javara
#364 [07:55] <VoxelHead> Andreas: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#365 [07:55] <VoxelHead> Andreas: (win/javara) JavaRa's info and download website is: http://raproducts.org/wordpress/software
#366 [07:55] <GreyVulpine> RichardG - Try updating your video card's drivers
#367 [07:55] <RichardG> it's a GMA G41 which is already updated
#368 [07:56] <RichardG> the problem started a week ago all of a sudden, i haven't installed or updated anything
#369 [07:56] <Andreas> i've cheked at java and they told me that everything was right, that the istalation was correct abd that i had the right Java
#370 [07:56] <GreyVulpine> Andreas - Yes, but remnants of any prior java installations can also cause problems as well. which is why we suggest uninstalling java before reinstalling it. so that you can ensure a fresh clean install of java.
#371 [07:57] <Andreas> i always remoe things before reistallation of programs, so i hard to think that that might be the problem but i culd give it a try
#372 [07:58] <GreyVulpine> RichardG - Your error's usually either caused by outdated video drivers, or java.
#373 [07:59] <RichardG> someone suggested me to update to update 29
#374 [07:59] <RichardG> did nothing
#375 [07:59] <RichardG> but how could it happen all of a sudden?
#376 [07:59] <RichardG> it started happening a week ago
#377 [07:59] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#377 [07:59] <RichardG> i didn't update or install anything
#378 [07:59] <RichardG> oh and i'm on 1.8.1 by the way
#379 [08:00] <RichardG> pre5 does the same
#380 [08:00] <Andreas> eh. shuld i remove the old java with the program or shuld it serch for a uppdate?
#381 [08:00] <RichardG> as well as any other version of MC does
#382 [08:01] <GreyVulpine> Andreas - Remove older versions. Head into advanced as well, there should be some options in there too.
#383 [08:01] <Andreas> but i have the latest weaiation of java allready
#384 [08:03] <GreyVulpine> The problem isn't that you have the latest version. The problem is that you could have some pieces of prior java installations still lurking on your computer that are causing problems
#385 [08:05] <Andreas> ok, now is it suposed to be romeved all older veriations
#386 [08:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#387 [08:06] <Andreas> the problem is still there
#388 [08:07] <Andreas> it did't work...
#389 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> Then I have no other clue. It's java. There's nothing else that could give that error
#390 [08:08] <Andreas> but java sais thet thers nothing wrong with there program
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#392 [08:13] <Andreas> does skype and c++ takes alot of RAM?
#393 [08:13] <GreyVulpine> Check it yourself. Ctrl-shift-esc to bring up the task manager. Check the performance tab
#394 [08:13] <Chris> proccesses tab <3 xD
#395 [08:14] <Andreas> thanks :)
#396 [08:14] <Jim_Kable> Hey, is it normal that i hadn't get an e-mail that confirm my buying of minecraft?
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#398 [08:20] <Andreas> nope still dosent work
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#400 [08:22] <Andreas> Java Virituel Machine Launcher ( culd not create the Java virituel machine )
#401 [08:26] <Andreas> does java have a free help and suport so you culd talk to someone who works at java?
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#403 [08:33] <EnderMe> #java lol
#404 [08:34] <EnderMe> But on freenode
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#410 [08:49] <Andreas> does Java have a Help and Suport that is free and work?
#411 [08:49] <EnderMe> #java in freenode
#412 [08:51] <Andreas> i have cheked java for help but self help dosent have my problem.
#413 [08:51] <Andreas> and livechat cost 50$
#414 [08:53] <TheNoodle> :O
#415 [08:53] <Andreas> i know
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#423 [09:31] <Andreas> culd anyone help me? when i start minecraft so does a window comes up with the text ( Culd not create the Java viritual machine )
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#425 [09:45] <Andreas> i have tried to solv it for 2 days now and nothing will help
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#429 [09:46] <cloudxnine> hi
#430 [09:46] <cloudxnine> how could i contact mojang?
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#432 [09:46] <Andreas> i dunno but you culd e-mail markus ( Notch )¨¨
#433 [09:47] <cloudxnine> do you possibly know his email?
#434 [09:47] <Andreas> yes i do
#435 [09:47] <cloudxnine> could i get it please
#436 [09:47] <Andreas> sure 1 sek please
#437 [09:47] <cloudxnine> coool
#438 [09:47] <GreyVulpine> Notch doesn't respond to emails. Especially not with account issues
#439 [09:47] <cloudxnine> its not account issues
#440 [09:47] <cloudxnine> its no issue
#441 [09:47] <cloudxnine> at all
#442 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate on why you want to contact Notch? Perhaps I can point you in a better direction
#443 [09:48] <cloudxnine> i have my reasons
#444 [09:48] <Andreas> i have a issue and no person seems to be able to solve it so i have e-mailed him in hope to get it fixed
#445 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Have it your way then.
#446 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Andreas - He doesn't deal with support issues.
#447 [09:48] <cloudxnine> cool thanks
#448 [09:48] <cloudxnine> yeah you should know that andrew
#449 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> Especially not with something that isn't his/minecraft's fault
#450 [09:49] <Andreas> but he made minecraft he must be able to do something
#451 [09:49] <cloudxnine> no no no
#452 [09:49] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#453 [09:49] <cloudxnine> not his problem.
#454 [09:49] <Andreas> it is cinda his problem
#455 [09:50] <cloudxnine> cinda?
#456 [09:50] <cloudxnine> lol
#457 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> No, it's java's problem. Not minecraft's
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#459 [09:50] <cloudxnine> whos cinda?
#460 [09:50] <Andreas> i cant get helped from java eather so who will help me?
#461 [09:50] <cloudxnine> do you mean kinda?
#462 [09:50] <cloudxnine> lol
#463 [09:50] <cloudxnine> fail
#464 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> It's like contacting the head of Toyota, because you were in a car crash
#465 [09:50] <GreyVulpine> I mean, you were driving a car, right? It's totally their fault
#466 [09:50] <cloudxnine> good point
#467 [09:51] <Andreas> sure you have car insurens so contact toyota
#468 [09:51] <GreyVulpine> Your issue there, Andreas, is Java at fault on your computer. Notch has nothing to do with it
#469 [09:51] <cloudxnine> toyota doesnt cover ur insurance
#470 [09:51] <cloudxnine> ur incurance does
#471 [09:51] <cloudxnine> insurance*
#472 [09:51] <Andreas> but java is inpossible to get helped from
#473 [09:52] <cloudxnine> impossible*
#474 [09:52] <cloudxnine> my god dude
#475 [09:52] <cloudxnine> go to school
#476 [09:52] <Andreas> i am going to school but be have a week holiday :p
#477 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> cloudxnine - Here's an unrelated tip for you. Notch gets hundreds, if not thousands of emails daily. His inbox is constantly flooded. If you have something short to tell him, twitter would be your best bet
#478 [09:52] <cloudxnine> well you should go to school in that week holiday
#479 [09:52] <GreyVulpine> Notch lives on twitter
#480 [09:53] <cloudxnine> does he grey?
#481 [09:53] <Andreas> but i don't have twitter
#482 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Indeed. Have a look yourself.
#483 [09:53] <cloudxnine> i will thanks
#484 [09:53] <Chris> get twitter >:D
#485 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> https://twitter.com/#!/notch
#486 [09:53] <Andreas> is it free?
#487 [09:53] <Chris> yes
#488 [09:53] <GreyVulpine> Twitter is free
#489 [09:53] <cloudxnine> yno
#490 [09:53] <cloudxnine> its not free
#491 [09:53] <cloudxnine> you have to pay 200 dollars
#492 [09:53] <cloudxnine> a weelk
#493 [09:53] <cloudxnine> week
#494 [09:53] <Chris> plus $100 signup
#495 [09:53] <cloudxnine> oh
#496 [09:53] <cloudxnine> forgot about that
#497 [09:54] <Andreas> whut?
#498 [09:54] <cloudxnine> yup
#499 [09:54] <Chris> and if you use paypal it costs another $20 cause they take fees...
#500 [09:54] <cloudxnine> i hear they are gonna charge tax now
#501 [09:54] <cloudxnine> 9%
#502 [09:54] <Chris> yet another $20
#503 [09:54] <cloudxnine> my god
#504 [09:54] <cloudxnine> this is horrific
#505 [09:54] <Chris> so we're looking at about $350 first week alone
#506 [09:54] <Chris> totally worth it
#507 [09:55] <cloudxnine> oh yeah
#508 [09:55] <Andreas> no
#509 [09:55] <cloudxnine> ive been with it for about 2 years now
#510 [09:55] <cloudxnine> payed 9293292 dollars
#511 [09:55] <nilesr|iPod> wow
#512 [09:55] <Chris> I have 2 accounts
#513 [09:55] <cloudxnine> WOWO
#514 [09:55] <cloudxnine> NO WAU
#515 [09:55] <cloudxnine> so thats like
#516 [09:55] <Chris> oh don't forget about the money exchange fees...
#517 [09:55] <cloudxnine> 91923912911
#518 [09:55] <nilesr|iPod> haha
#519 [09:55] <cloudxnine> a year
#520 [09:56] <nilesr|iPod> i warezed a twitter for free
#521 [09:56] <Chris> its free.
#522 [09:56] <nilesr|iPod> lol we know
#523 [09:56] <Chris> Andreas doesn't xD
#524 [09:56] <Andreas> is it free? yes or no
#525 [09:56] <Chris> yes its free
#526 [09:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#527 [09:58] <Andreas> do everone here has twitter?
#528 [09:58] <Chris> yes
#529 [09:59] <Chris> I have 2 accounts
#530 [09:59] <Andreas> ok
#531 [09:59] <GreyVulpine> Only way to keep up on the whole of Mojang. they regularly put minecraft updates and tasks on twitter
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#534 [10:00] <Andreas> my parents don't like twitter
#535 [10:00] <Andreas> does he have Facebook?
#536 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> Chances are, they don't know what twitter is.
#537 [10:00] <GreyVulpine> Facebook? No.
#538 [10:00] <Andreas> they know what twitter is :/
#539 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> Do they know that twitter was used in several countries, to coordinate and liberate thousands of people from oppressive regimes?
#540 [10:02] <GreyVulpine> As a communications medium to show the rest of the world, what people were willing to do to fight back against corrupt governments?
#541 [10:03] <Andreas> isent that FB?
#542 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#543 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> http://mashable.com/2011/02/01/egypt-twitter-infographic/
#544 [10:03] <GreyVulpine> http://gulfnews.com/news/region/egypt/egypt-s-activists-post-wills-on-twitter-in-hope-of-change-1.920206
#545 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> http://commentmideast.com/2011/07/twitter-taught-me-what-is-wrong-yemen/
#546 [10:04] <GreyVulpine> Need I paste more?
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#548 [10:07] <Andreas> i dunno
#549 [10:08] <Andreas> but i still dosent get minecraft to work and i tried the most things i can do
#550 [10:11] <Andreas> do you know any good webbsite toget help with java for free?
#551 [10:11] <Andreas> to get*
#552 [10:12] <Andreas> not javas webbsite plise they charge and it isent mutch to help
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#560 [10:34] <galuwyr> Is there already a solution for "fatal erro occured (4) null " ?
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#562 [10:34] <GreyVulpine> Disable firewall/AV
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#564 [10:35] <Shroom> Grey, they should pay you to sit here and deal with people.
#565 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> Pay? Pfft.
#566 [10:35] <Shroom> I said -should-.
#567 [10:35] <Shroom> lol
#568 [10:35] <Shroom> Do you have a customer service job irl? :P
#569 [10:35] <GreyVulpine> But, if they pay me, then people would expect me to actually solve problems here
#570 [10:36] <GreyVulpine> Used to, unemployed currently
#571 [10:39] <galuwyr> LuL.
#572 [10:39] <galuwyr> GreyVUlpine
#573 [10:40] <galuwyr> This worked now for me , i just downloaded Avira 12 ... it doesnt worked with 11. Thank you
#574 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> Glad to hear it
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#593 [11:29] <OrphanTears> Im new to minecraft... how do I build things?
#594 [11:30] <OrphanTears> I can collect wood and sand.
#595 [11:30] <OrphanTears> And I made a sandhouse.
#596 [11:30] <OrphanTears> But I want a axe.
#597 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Wiki is your friend. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tools
#598 [11:30] <OrphanTears> Is there a starter guide?
#599 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorial
#600 [11:31] <Knutowskie> hey! minecraft is crashing on multiplayer. no notifications, only a logfile on desktop. what can ido now?
#601 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> Knutowskie - Paste the contents of the logfile onto pastebin.com and give us the URL to it please.
#602 [11:31] <Knutowskie> http://www.file-upload.net/download-3848421/hs_err_pid1032.log.html
#603 [11:32] <Knutowskie> i already had uploaded it there
#604 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag?
#605 [11:32] <GreyVulpine> ??> Knutowskie win/dxdiag
#606 [11:32] <VoxelHead> Knutowskie: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#607 [11:32] <VoxelHead> Knutowskie: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#609 [11:33] <Knutowskie> ok one moment please
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#611 [11:35] <Knutowskie> http://pastebin.com/0A82fF3r
#612 [11:36] <Knutowskie> don't have this problem on my desktop pc at home. my 6 year old notebook seems to have more problems with it
#613 [11:36] <Knutowskie> chests are flickering too...
#614 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, has to do with either the video card, or the video card's drivers not supporting openGL 1.3
#615 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> It may just be too old to run minecraft 1.8.1, though 1.9 should fix it, by using OpenGL1.2 calls.
#616 [11:37] <Knutowskie> but it'ss starting, i can play several minutes (rondomizes between 3 and 10 min)
#617 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> You may also be able to update your drivers. Try going here:
#618 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&SystemID=INS_PNT_6000&os=WW1&osl=EN
#619 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> And downloading the X300 video drivers there.
#620 [11:38] <Knutowskie> i already did last week. nothing changed
#621 [11:38] <Thrae> Knutowskie: Some people have have success running this Driver Mod Tool to install later Mobility drivers -- http://www.hardwareheaven.com/modtool.php
#622 [11:40] <Knutowskie> okay. now i can say its an graphics issue?
#623 [11:40] <Knutowskie> maybe i can get an better GPU for this old thing
#624 [11:41] <Thrae> Knutowskie: Yeah, the hs_err_pid says it's crashing in an ATI OpenGL DLL file.
#625 [11:42] <Thrae> Knutowskie: Not in a laptop...
#626 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> ^
#627 [11:42] <GreyVulpine> !seen khobbits
#628 [11:42] <GreyBot> I found no results for your !Seen query.
#629 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, seems we have another bot that's logging on this channel.
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#631 [11:44] <Knutowskie> okay thx. i'll give that modded driver a chance. if it don't works, i'll need to upgrade my gpu. hopefully the mobility x700 does work well with minecraft?
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#633 [11:45] <Thrae> It's not as much a matter with the graphics chipset itself than the drivers
#634 [11:45] <Thrae> Older drivers can sometimes work better than newer drivers when dealing with OpenGL 1.3 and older
#635 [11:46] <Thrae> *Most* people don't have a problem
#636 [11:46] <Knutowskie> okay... maybe there are nvidia gpus fitting this slot. i experienced, that nvidia drivers are sometimes a lot better
#637 [11:46] <Thrae> Yes, yes they are -- especially since Nvidia 8 Series GPUs and up are STILL supported by Nvidia Mobility drivers
#638 [11:47] <Thrae> Unlike ATI which can't seem to convince the OEMs to allow them to distribute generic drivers
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#640 [11:49] <Haleyface> Hello?
#641 [11:49] <Haleyface> Can someone help me with minecraft?
#642 [11:50] <Knutowskie> maybe
#643 [11:50] <Haleyface> lol thats better than no
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#645 [11:50] <Knutowskie> if you dont have the same problem like me...
#646 [11:50] <Haleyface> Whats your problem?
#647 [11:51] <Knutowskie> crappy ati mobility x300
#648 [11:51] <Haleyface> Oh I dont have that problem
#649 [11:51] <Knutowskie> so whats your problem?#
#650 [11:52] <Haleyface> I bought the game but it wont let me play online
#651 [11:53] <Knutowskie> did you bought a giftcode?
#652 [11:53] <Haleyface> no I used my credit card
#653 [11:53] <BlackGyver> I like turtles.
#654 [11:53] <Haleyface> I like zombies
#655 [11:54] <Knutowskie> im back in about 15 minutes
#656 [11:54] <Knutowskie> sry
#657 [11:54] <Haleyface> Alright
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#662 [12:08] <Ryladine> Anyone know if minecraft (servers or clients) have problems with ipV6 adresses?
#663 [12:09] <Knutowskie> so i'm back, haleyface: when you bought it with a credit card, did u get a email?
#664 [12:09] <GreyVulpine> Several months ago, I do recall debian MC servers having a problem with binding to only ipv6 addresses
#665 [12:09] <Thrae> Ryladine: I think there's a special way you use them because : is parsed as a port by default
#666 [12:09] <Thrae> Knutowskie: Haleyface left.
#667 [12:09] <Knutowskie> oh sorry..
#668 [12:10] <Ryladine> Alright then, thanks for the info guys, was asking for the host I work with. (I guess they are getting problems getting dedicated ipV4's now.
#669 [12:10] <Ryladine> Alright then, thanks for the info guys, was asking for the host I work with. (I guess they are getting problems getting dedicated ipV4's now.
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#677 [12:34] <Effluo> Hi
#678 [12:35] <Effluo> Was wondering if someone might be able to help me with some connection restrictions that my uni has put in place
#679 [12:35] <Effluo> :3
#680 [12:36] <Effluo> I've done a bit of googling, but have had no luck thus far... Does anyone here play off a restricted connection?
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#682 [12:38] <Rebelord> Hello All
#683 [12:39] <Rebelord> Was wondering if someone could help me test my personal server
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#685 [12:44] <madalynn> i need help
#686 [12:45] <madalynn> i need help please
#687 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> With?
#688 [12:45] <madalynn> my minecraft says there is an error
#689 [12:45] <madalynn> and i cant login
#690 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> What error do you get?
#691 [12:45] <madalynn> hold on
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#693 [12:46] <madalynn> i get this
#694 [12:46] <madalynn> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com. Please include a description of what you did when the error occured. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 5424363c -------- Generated 11/1/11 12:27 PM Min
#695 [12:46] <Ryladine> madalynn use pastebin
#696 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Could you please copy the entirety of the error report, paste it at www.pastebin.com
#697 [12:46] <madalynn> ok wit
#698 [12:46] <madalynn> wait
#699 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Give us the address to it after you submit it
#700 [12:46] <Rebelord> I'm trying to make sure my personal server has external access
#701 [12:46] <najd1103> So i changed my java to 64bit and now all i get is black screen - ive changed path variable too. Any Ideas?
#702 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Rebelord - IP?
#703 [12:46] <madalynn> here is the error!
#704 [12:46] <madalynn> http://pastebin.com/0x9Ye6Je
#705 [12:47] <Rebelord> 63.228.197.11
#706 [12:47] <madalynn> when i try to force update it gets stuck at 28% all the time
#707 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> madalynn - You have java 7 installed on your system. Java 7's been known to cause problems with minecraft. We recommend you uninstalling java 7, and installing only java 6 from java.com
#708 [12:47] <madalynn> ooh, can u link me to java 6
#709 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> !check 63.228.197.11
#710 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> Rebelord - Looks fine from here.
#711 [12:48] <Rebelord> Oh sweet
#712 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> madalynn - http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#713 [12:48] <madalynn> thanks alot :)
#714 [12:49] <Rebelord> GreyVulpine: Thanks, I guess it wasn't letting test the external ip from another computer on the local network
#715 [12:49] <madalynn> should i let u no if it works?
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#717 [12:50] <Rebelord> Kind of weird
#718 [12:50] <Rebelord> Time to update the MOTD then its too long
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#720 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> madalynn - If you wish
#721 [12:51] <samidu15> Hello
#722 [12:51] <madalynn> ok i will
#723 [12:51] <samidu15> I've got an issue
#724 [12:51] <GreyVulpine> Rebelord - Some (cheaper) routers don't do NAT loopback on external IPs
#725 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Rebelord - Not an uncommon issue
#726 [12:52] <madalynn> samidu15, with?
#727 [12:52] <samidu15> i can't connect on minecraft.exe and on the website
#728 [12:52] <samidu15> "login failed"
#729 [12:52] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to load up the website at all?
#730 [12:52] <madalynn> did you put the correct pass
#731 [12:53] <samidu15> yes
#732 [12:53] <GreyVulpine> Were you able to log in at all prior to this?
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#734 [12:53] <madalynn> press try again and login a few times
#735 [12:53] <madalynn> that usually works for me
#736 [12:53] <samidu15> done
#737 [12:53] <madalynn> did it wok\rk?
#738 [12:53] <madalynn> work*
#739 [12:54] <samidu15> no that's why i'm here
#740 [12:54] <madalynn> hmm
#741 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> Login Failed means one of two things. Either you have an older launcher, or your username/password is being entered wrong. Try redownloading minecraft.exe from minecraft.net/download, then do a password reset at:
#742 [12:54] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#743 [12:54] <madalynn> try to re download the launcher
#744 [12:54] <samidu15> done...
#745 [12:54] <madalynn> hmm
#746 [12:55] <madalynn> can u play in-browwser?
#747 [12:55] <Rebelord> What tool do you use to test minecraft server status, or do you just use the Minecraft Client?
#748 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> It's just a simple packet that's sent to a server. Server sends back player number/motd info
#749 [12:55] <GreyVulpine> If you wish, I can try connecting personally.
#750 [12:56] <samidu15> 3hours early i could
#751 [12:56] <madalynn> hmm weird
#752 [12:56] <samidu15> but not now
#753 [12:56] <madalynn> try to reset your password
#754 [12:56] <samidu15> ii didn't received de message :/
#755 [12:56] <GreyVulpine> Rebelord - Looks fine to me.
#756 [12:57] <madalynn> :/
#757 [12:57] <madalynn> try to wait a bit and see if they send u it
#758 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> It can take some time for the email to reach people
#759 [12:57] <Rebelord> GreyVulpine: It's just weird that it wouldn't ;et me check the external IP from another local comp
#760 [12:57] <GreyVulpine> Rebelord - It happens with some older or cheaper routers.
#761 [12:58] <samidu15> ok i'll wait...
#762 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> I see it quite often with some cheaper ISP-provided modem/routers
#763 [12:58] <Effluo> :(
#764 [12:58] <Rebelord> GreyVulpine: I have 2 routers at home not sure which one is better
#765 [12:58] <madalynn> grey, my mc works now, thanks
#766 [12:58] <Rebelord> both are crappy ISP ones
#767 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> madalynn - Glad to hear it
#768 [12:59] <madalynn> :)
#769 [12:59] <Rebelord> GreyVulpine: Well I can't wait to try it out now with my friend soon
#770 [12:59] * GreyVulpine nods
#770 [13:00] <Rebelord> I might get all my work buddies on it too
#771 [13:01] <Rebelord> Oh sweet I can you connected from the server terminal too sweet thanks
#772 [13:02] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#773 [13:03] <Effluo> k
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#775 [13:03] <Effluo> I'm still scavaging teh internetz for solutions
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#777 [13:03] <Effluo> But all I find are troll threads ;_;
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#779 [13:04] <Rebelord> Later all thanks for the help
#780 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> University's throttling/filtering your connection?
#781 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Rebelord - Take care.
#782 [13:04] <Effluo> Aye
#783 [13:04] <Effluo> They've blocked ports
#784 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, not much you can do there then.
#785 [13:04] <Effluo> Am I correct in saying that Minecraft use a p2p connection?
#786 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> It does not.
#787 [13:04] <Effluo> k
#788 [13:05] <Effluo> Have ye ever heard of your-freedom?
#789 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Can't say that rings a bell.
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#791 [13:06] <Effluo> http://your-freedom.net/
#792 [13:06] <Effluo> I've been trying to get it setup with steam
#793 [13:06] <Effluo> and it's half working
#794 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> Ah, just a proxy.
#795 [13:06] <Effluo> Steam is so buggy, I find it hard to know which is failing for me
#796 [13:07] <Effluo> I read on one of their forums that you need a p2p connection to play multiplayer minecrafy -_-
#797 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> You do not.
#798 [13:07] <Effluo> Right
#799 [13:07] <Effluo> What kind of connection do I need so?
#800 [13:08] <Effluo> I've set it up in the same way that I've set up other applications, but it still doesn't work :/
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#802 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how you're playing minecraft. If you're accessing the in-browser client at minecraft.net, a connection is required to be made to the amazonaws cloud, to download minecraft files.
#803 [13:08] <Effluo> Right
#804 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> If you're using the client, an SSL connection over HTTPS is required for login authentication
#805 [13:09] <mib_4kxkgu> hello?
#806 [13:09] <Effluo> I'll just do a quick test thar
#807 [13:09] <mib_4kxkgu> who here can help me?
#808 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> For both browser and client, a client that connects to an MP server, needs to be able to communicate to it via port 25565 (default), the server sends traffic back on a random port
#809 [13:09] <Effluo> Because I never tried the in browser thingy
#810 [13:09] <rymate1234> hello mib_4kxkgu
#811 [13:09] <rymate1234> whats up?
#812 [13:09] <mib_4kxkgu> Hi
#813 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> If either is blocked or filtered, you won't be able to connect to an MP server
#814 [13:10] <mib_4kxkgu> I have a problem, can u help me
#815 [13:10] <rymate1234> possibly
#816 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_4kxkgu - What sort of problem?
#817 [13:10] <mib_4kxkgu> thx
#818 [13:10] <rymate1234> ??> mib_4kxkgu just/ask
#819 [13:10] <rymate1234> meh
#820 [13:10] <mib_4kxkgu> wait
#821 [13:10] <Effluo> What I thought was suprising, was the fact that I couldn't even log in using the minecraft app
#822 [13:10] <samidu15> It doesn't work ...
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#824 [13:12] <mib_4kxkgu> for a month or so minecraft has randomly been quitting itself. is sais that the Java binary platform (or something like that) isnt working, should i re-download it or what?
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#826 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> If it's java itself, try uninstalling java completely from your system, and install it fresh from java.com
#827 [13:12] <Effluo> Do you have any example servers there that I could try out?
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#829 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> Effluo - s.nerd.nu, smp.shadow-craft.net
#830 [13:13] <Effluo> I was able to log in through the browser
#831 [13:13] <mib_4kxkgu> kk, ill come back later :)
#832 [13:13] <Effluo> I'll test the multiplayer now
#833 [13:14] <Effluo> Hmmm
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#835 [13:14] <Effluo> Doesn't seem to be up to much :/
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#837 [13:14] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#838 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> !check s.nerd.nu
#839 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Reddit's server is up..
#840 [13:15] <mib_4kxkgu> its name was java binary platform, right?
#841 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_4kxkgu - Right...?
#842 [13:16] <mib_4kxkgu> thx
#843 [13:16] <Effluo> Do I need to update it before joining?
#844 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Effluo - Do you have 1.8.1?
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#846 [13:16] <Effluo> Nope, I'll update it
#847 [13:17] <Effluo> Is it possible to play in full screen when playing in browser?
#848 [13:17] <mib_4kxkgu> yep
#849 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes, with uh.. f11?
#850 [13:17] <Effluo> Oh
#851 [13:17] <Effluo> fair enough
#852 [13:18] <Effluo> I remember trying that before, but the box in which the game was stayed the same size
#853 [13:18] <mib_4kxkgu> Effluo, does the browser require 1.9. 5
#854 [13:18] <Effluo> ?
#855 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> The browser doesn't require 1.9pre5
#856 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> That's a prerelease of 1.9
#857 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft 1.8.1 is the latest stable release of minecraft.
#858 [13:19] <mib_4kxkgu> u need to have the right version of minecraft that fits the browser 2 play it
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#860 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> No, you only need to have the matching version of minecraft that the server is running
#861 [13:20] <Effluo> s.nerd.nu
#862 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> For the most part, almost all servers run 1.8.1
#863 [13:20] <Effluo> "Can't reach server"
#864 [13:20] <Effluo> :(
#865 [13:20] <Effluo> Hmmm
#866 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, something's blocking it then
#867 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> The reddit server is up and running.
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#872 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> I sense esper troubles
#873 [13:24] <guest-810081-31324> hey so t flip flops arent working
#874 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Sure they do
#875 [13:24] <guest-810081-31324> i cant get any that worked just last night to work
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#877 [13:25] <Effluo> the fuck was that
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#966 [13:26] <guest-810081-31324> oh wow. lotta people logged off. but i know how they work and it just wont work
#967 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Isn't people logging off. It's the IRC network doing a netsplit
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#971 [13:28] <guest-810081-31324> oh gotcha sent yo a pm
#972 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> guest-810081-31324 - Got any screenshots?
#973 [13:29] <guest-810081-31324> yeah.
#974 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Could you upload them to a site like imgur.com and share them with us?
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#977 [13:32] <guest-810081-31324> yeah i can
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#980 [13:33] <Kealper> i just DCed? blasphemy
#981 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> Netsplit
#982 [13:33] <Kealper> oh, fair enough
#983 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> Somebody musta zapped esper's servers while wearing wool socks or something
#984 [13:34] <Kealper> lol
#985 [13:35] <Chris> only one of them I think.. I didn't get dc'd.. but I came on right before it happened
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#987 [13:37] <RobinJ24> Theyre too scared to dc me
#988 [13:37] <guest-810081-31324> http://imgur.com/a/IRj7R
#989 [13:37] <guest-810081-31324> the screenshot you asked for
#990 [13:38] <GreyVulpine> The charge is blocked by that glass cube..
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#992 [13:38] <sockmister> heeeelp
#993 [13:38] <guest-810081-31324> yeah i know but it has worked fine that way for a month...
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#995 [13:38] <sockmister> anybody here help me?
#996 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> guest-810081-31324 - Hmm, should've have.
#997 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> er, shouldn't
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#1000 [13:39] <MrTmorris> I need sum haaaalllo
#1001 [13:39] <sockmister> what do i do if i want to get my money back
#1002 [13:39] <sockmister> ?
#1003 [13:39] <MrTmorris> lawlz
#1004 [13:39] <GreyVulpine> Refund policy can be found at minecraft.net/support
#1005 [13:39] <MrTmorris> give it to me
#1006 [13:40] <MrTmorris> ill buy it
#1007 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> See payment -> refund
#1008 [13:40] <MrTmorris> How do I download survival mode?
#1009 [13:40] <GreyVulpine> MrTmorris - It downloads it automatically, once you pay for a premium account
#1010 [13:40] <MrTmorris> I click play offline it says not downloaded
#1011 [13:41] <MrTmorris> yeah but ive done it without paying, just for single player
#1012 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> The launcher contains no actual game files
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#1014 [13:41] <MrTmorris> yes it does
#1015 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> Then you either pirated it, or you got it from a friend
#1016 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> No, it doesn't
#1017 [13:41] <MrTmorris> Or i can just google minecraftsp
#1018 [13:41] <guest-810081-31324> so any suggestions on the design
#1019 [13:41] <sockmister> well it says " we dont issue refunds..."
#1020 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> The launcher downloads no game files until you log in with a premium account
#1021 [13:41] <MrTmorris> lol
#1022 [13:41] <sockmister> buuuut
#1023 [13:41] <GreyVulpine> If you wish to pirate it, we won't stop you. Don't expect us to help you once you contract a virus
#1024 [13:42] <MrTmorris> well thats stupid because ive done it before but messed up loading the planes mod
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#1026 [13:42] <sockmister> isnt there a law that says i get money back on everything i buy within 4 weeks?
#1027 [13:42] <sockmister> i am no pirate
#1028 [13:42] <Chris> sockmister, nope
#1029 [13:42] <MrTmorris> it may not be a federal law
#1030 [13:42] <MrTmorris> it may not be a federal law
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#1033 [13:42] <sockmister> if i was i would have downloaded it illegally already
#1034 [13:42] <MrTmorris> lol
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#1036 [13:42] <MrTmorris> you can if you want just single player
#1037 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> We also don't tolerate talk of piracy here
#1038 [13:42] <GreyVulpine> If you want to play minecraft beta, pay for it
#1039 [13:42] <sockmister> i did
#1040 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft beta is not free, neither on MP nor single player
#1041 [13:43] <MrTmorris> Google Minecraftsp I am a PIRATE!
#1042 [13:43] <MrTmorris> Google Minecraftsp I am a PIRATE!
#1043 [13:43] <MrTmorris> Google Minecraftsp I am a PIRATE!
#1044 [13:43] <MrTmorris> Google Minecraftsp I am a PIRATE!
#1045 [13:43] <MrTmorris> Google Minecraftsp I am a PIRATE!
#1046 [13:43] <MrTmorris> Google Minecraftsp I am a PIRATE!
#1047 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> !k MrTmorris
#1048 [13:43] * GreyBot kicked MrTmorris from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rTmorris :<Kicks:844>)
#1049 [13:43] * GreyVulpine waves
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#1050 [13:43] <GreyVulpine> !kb MrTmorris
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#1053 [13:44] <mikupl> what should i do if i can not run minecraft?
#1054 [13:44] <guest-810081-31324> so any suggestions on the design?
#1055 [13:45] <mikupl> it works only if "minecraft.exe" is exacly in downloads folder
#1056 [13:45] <GreyVulpine> guest-810081-31324 - As it stands, that current design doesn't work. You'll need to thread the redstone signal underneath.
#1057 [13:45] <sockmister> oh man
#1058 [13:45] <mikupl> when i move it for eg. to desktop it stops working
#1059 [13:46] <GreyVulpine> mikupl - Could you elaborate further? Do you get any errors?
#1060 [13:46] <sockmister> what should i do???
#1061 [13:47] <mikupl> if game is in downloads folder it works normally. if i move it out of downloads folder it starts minecraft.exe process in task manager but nothing happens
#1062 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> mikupl - Hmm, that goes against everything I know about minecraft. The minecraft.exe is just the launcher...
#1063 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't contain any of the actual game files....
#1064 [13:47] <mikupl> hmm... is it possible to run it using batch?
#1065 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1066 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/jP44k5E2
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#1068 [13:49] <mikupl> oh thanks. i'll try it now
#1069 [13:52] <mikupl> error: could not find or load main class net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1070 [13:52] <GreyVulpine> You didn't download the minecraft.jar from minecraft.net, or the bat file isn't in the same location as the .jar
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#1072 [13:54] <Balee> Hiya.
#1073 [13:54] <Balee> Question to wiki-ists.
#1074 [13:54] <mikupl> i downloaded jar from minecraft.net and now it's working. thank you
#1075 [13:55] <Balee> Do I only add bugs to "Known_bugs/Version_1.9pre5" that appeared in PR5, or can I add bugs that are still present in it?
#1076 [13:55] <Balee> I.e. my damage bug and water bug.
#1077 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> Balee - Only appeared in PR5
#1078 [13:55] <Balee> Uhhum.
#1079 [13:55] <Balee> Thankies!
#1080 [13:55] <GreyVulpine> And water is being reverted back to pre-4
#1081 [13:55] <Balee> Huh?
#1082 [13:56] <Balee> I don't think we are talking about the same water thing. :)
#1083 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> The water physics that is present in pre5, jeb says he's reverting it back to pre4
#1084 [13:56] <Balee> Is that the "every block under a water source becomes a water source" thingy?
#1085 [13:56] <GreyVulpine> yeah
#1086 [13:56] <Balee> Yay, I'm up-to-date.
#1087 [13:56] <Balee> \o/
#1088 [13:57] <Balee> Well Jeb seemed to have confirmed both of my bugs.
#1089 [13:57] <Balee> So I guess it's just a question of time now. :)
#1090 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> 1.9's still scheduled to be released during minecon.
#1091 [13:58] <Balee> PR5 was released like the next day, so I guess the fixes didn't make it in time.
#1092 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> So, just 17 days away
#1093 [13:58] <Balee> Patience is my second name.
#1094 [13:58] <Balee> Although Impatience is my third.
#1095 [13:59] <Balee> Anyhow, I'll keep that wiki thing in mind, thanks. :)
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#1097 [13:59] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1097 [13:59] <mib_vh8oze> jnhkrggskssgwsr
#1098 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Hi to you too
#1099 [13:59] <Balee> Cheers on that.
#1100 [13:59] <mib_vh8oze> Hello, sorry just give me a sec...
#1101 [13:59] * Balee gives mib_vh8oze a sec.
#1101 [14:09] <mib_vh8oze> whenever i try to play minecraft this bunch of stuff comes up:
#1102 [14:09] <mib_vh8oze> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 01/11/11 17:38 Minecraft: Minecraft Beta 1.8.1 OS: Windows Vista (x86) version 6.0 Java:
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#1104 [14:09] <GreyVulpine> This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1105 [14:10] <mok3y> HELP
#1106 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to do so?
#1107 [14:10] <mib_vh8oze> Nope
#1108 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> mok3y - With?
#1109 [14:10] <mok3y> when i install the mod i made, it crashes my game
#1110 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> mib_vh8oze - Can you give us a dxdiag?
#1111 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_vh8oze win/dxdiag
#1112 [14:10] <VoxelHead> mib_vh8oze: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1113 [14:10] <VoxelHead> mib_vh8oze: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1114 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> mok3y - Then don't use the mod
#1115 [14:10] <mok3y> but i want to test it, its my first mod i mad
#1116 [14:10] <mok3y> made*
#1117 [14:10] <GreyVulpine> mok3y - If you made the mod, how are we supposed to know how to fix it?
#1118 [14:11] <mok3y> umm
#1119 [14:11] <mib_vh8oze> So what do i do?
#1120 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_vh8oze win/dxdiag
#1121 [14:11] <VoxelHead> mib_vh8oze: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1122 [14:11] <VoxelHead> mib_vh8oze: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1123 [14:11] <GreyVulpine> mib_vh8oze -Follow vox's instructions please
#1124 [14:12] <Balee> Jesus wall of text.
#1125 [14:13] <mib_vh8oze> Sorry, whats the win win key
#1126 [14:14] <mib_vh8oze> ??
#1127 [14:14] <GreyVulpine> Win key is the one with the windows logo, typically found between ctrl and alt
#1128 [14:14] <mib_vh8oze> Cheers dude
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#1130 [14:17] <mib_dadlz1> hx
#1131 [14:17] <mib_dadlz1> hy
#1132 [14:18] <mib_dadlz1> i need help
#1133 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> With?
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#1135 [14:18] <mib_dadlz1> soo
#1136 [14:18] <mib_dadlz1> i bought minecraft yesterday
#1137 [14:18] <mib_dadlz1> at 3 pm cet time
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#1139 [14:21] <Thrae> ?? payment
#1140 [14:21] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1141 [14:21] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
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#1145 [14:26] <cornelius> Hi, I just got a new laptop, and when I open my launcher and login, it fails and says can't connect to minecraft.net, It says where the new is MEANT to be it says... "Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect" excluding all the colour codes and text codes, i have tried many different security softwares and turning of my fire
#1146 [14:26] <cornelius> wall and stuff
#1147 [14:26] <cornelius> **news
#1148 [14:27] <mib_vh8oze> Sorry whats the IRC channel
#1149 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> cornelius - Do you have java 7 installed?
#1150 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> mib_vh8oze - You're in one
#1151 [14:27] <cornelius> yes
#1152 [14:27] <mib_vh8oze> ?
#1153 [14:27] <GreyVulpine> cornelius - That would be why. Minecraft and java 7 do not get along.
#1154 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> cornelius - I'd recommend uninstalling all versions of java, and grabbing java 6 instead
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#1156 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_vh8oze - This is an IRC channel.
#1157 [14:28] <cornelius> thanks, if it doesnt work i will messgae again :)
#1158 [14:29] <mib_vh8oze> Heads up, this may blow all ya'll minds
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#1160 [14:30] <mib_vh8oze> ----------- System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 11/1/2011, 18:16:31 Machine name: WORK1 Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_gdr.071023-1545) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: Inspiron 1501 BIOS: BIO
#1161 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Gah, not here
#1162 [14:30] <GreyVulpine> Pastebin.com
#1163 [14:30] <Balee> This blew my mind.
#1164 [14:30] <Balee> Ah, wait, that wasn't my mind.
#1165 [14:30] <Balee> That was my elbow.
#1166 [14:30] <Balee> Ouch.
#1167 [14:31] <mib_vh8oze> So..
#1168 [14:31] <mib_vh8oze> ???
#1169 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_vh8oze - Please copy the entirety of that report, paste it at www.pastebin.com, submit it, then give us the address to it
#1170 [14:31] <cornelius> is it Java SE?
#1171 [14:31] <GreyVulpine> cornelius - Yes
#1172 [14:31] <cornelius> kk
#1173 [14:31] <mib_vh8oze> http://cbe003.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.esper.net&channel=%23minecrafthelp
#1174 [14:31] <mib_vh8oze> There yah go.
#1175 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> That's the address to this chatroom, not the pastebin report
#1176 [14:32] <mib_vh8oze> damn it.
#1177 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> An example of a dxdiag pastebin.com link - http://pastebin.com/gs3wVqF5
#1178 [14:32] <mib_vh8oze> http://pastebin.com/ST4bckEG
#1179 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> See how all the text is there?
#1180 [14:32] <cornelius> JRE?
#1181 [14:32] <mib_vh8oze> There yah go
#1182 [14:32] <GreyVulpine> cornelius - Yes
#1183 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> unless you're planning on programming in java yourself, you only need the JRE
#1184 [14:33] <cornelius> thnxx
#1185 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Gah, old computer there mib_vh8oze
#1186 [14:33] <mib_vh8oze> Soooo...
#1187 [14:33] <GreyVulpine> Moment..
#1188 [14:33] <mib_vh8oze> KK
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#1190 [14:34] <GreyVulpine> Try going here: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&os=WW1&osl=en&SystemID=INS_PNT_1501&catid=-1&impid=-1
#1191 [14:35] <cornelius> Btw cornelius is HariboBooth now
#1192 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Expand the Video option, download that xpress 1150 driver, and install it
#1193 [14:35] <JulieSpicci> I keep trying to download the game and I keep getting this message, Credit/debit card deposits disabled You can not use your credit/debit card for the next 24 hours. This restriction cannot be lifted manually by you or our service team. Please return to the website of the Merchant where you will receive further instructions."
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#1195 [14:35] <JulieSpicci> I've tried 3 credit/debit cards now and it's not working.
#1196 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> JulieSpicci - Try paying by paypal
#1197 [14:35] <GreyVulpine> Moneybookers has a tendancy to do that
#1198 [14:35] <JulieSpicci> I don't have paypal.
#1199 [14:35] <JulieSpicci> Nor do I know anyone who does.
#1200 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> You can use paypal as a payment service. You don't need to make an account if you don't want to
#1201 [14:36] <GreyVulpine> An account at paypal is free.
#1202 [14:36] <JulieSpicci> Paypal.com?
#1203 [14:37] <HariboBooth> Omg vulpine, thank you soo much, can i like vote for you or something? :L
#1204 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> You can choose paypal as a payment service from minecraft.net
#1205 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> HariboBooth - Nope. Just glad to help
#1206 [14:37] <HariboBooth> Thanks again :-)
#1207 [14:37] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1207 [14:37] <JulieSpicci> So wait...if I don't have an account for PayPal I can still use it?
#1208 [14:37] <JulieSpicci> I'm confused.
#1209 [14:37] <GreyVulpine> Yes JulieSpicci
#1210 [14:38] <JulieSpicci> If you say so...I'll go try it..
#1211 [14:39] <JulieSpicci> How do you change it to US dollars?
#1212 [14:39] <GreyVulpine> Upper right corner.
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#1214 [14:40] <GreyVulpine> Paypal does currency conversion itself.
#1215 [14:40] <JulieSpicci> Okay.
#1216 [14:40] <JulieSpicci> If I get charged like a million times I'm going to be pissed lol.
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#1218 [14:42] <JulieSpicci> The card you entered cannot be used for this payment. Please enter a different credit or debit card number.
#1219 [14:43] <JulieSpicci> MAybe because it still says it's in EURs?
#1220 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, no.
#1221 [14:43] <GreyVulpine> Are you trying to use a prepaid card?
#1222 [14:43] <JulieSpicci> No, it's my debit card.
#1223 [14:43] <JulieSpicci> I'll try my credit.
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#1225 [14:43] <JulieSpicci> Hold on.
#1226 [14:44] <mib_e6vbpd> my minecraft wont work it says i need to update my video card driver pls help
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#1228 [14:44] <GreyVulpine> mib_e6vbpd - Windows?
#1229 [14:44] <mib_e6vbpd> xp
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#1231 [14:45] <xorcon> hy
#1232 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag?
#1233 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> ??> mib_e6vbpd win/dxdiag
#1234 [14:45] <VoxelHead> mib_e6vbpd: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1235 [14:45] <xorcon> Vulpine
#1236 [14:45] <VoxelHead> mib_e6vbpd: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1237 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - Hello
#1238 [14:45] <xorcon> I need your help
#1239 [14:45] <xorcon> So...
#1240 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1241 [14:45] <xorcon> I was buying minecraft yesterday
#1242 [14:45] <xorcon> 3 Pm CET time
#1243 [14:45] <GreyVulpine> Okay?
#1244 [14:45] <xorcon> So I wrote all the details
#1245 [14:45] <xorcon> With my master card
#1246 [14:45] <xorcon> Credit card
#1247 [14:46] <xorcon> and first it said it was rejected
#1248 [14:46] <xorcon> then i pressed the minecraft logo againd
#1249 [14:46] <xorcon> and it said success
#1250 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Then it gave you a successful message
#1251 [14:46] <xorcon> So will I get it or not
#1252 [14:46] <xorcon> ?
#1253 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, the second page always gives that message
#1254 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> Even on a failed transaction.
#1255 [14:46] <xorcon> Oh
#1256 [14:46] <GreyVulpine> The transaction was never completed
#1257 [14:46] <JulieSpicci> Return to merchant and try a different payment method We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available).
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#1259 [14:47] <JulieSpicci> I'm like about to give up...this is ridiculous.
#1260 [14:47] <xorcon> Yeah because i was wondering
#1261 [14:47] <xorcon> I didnt get an email
#1262 [14:47] <xorcon> after 1 day
#1263 [14:47] <xorcon> or the premium status
#1264 [14:47] <xorcon> so i should try it again or?
#1265 [14:47] <JulieSpicci> xorcon, welcome to my world.
#1266 [14:47] <xorcon> because i used that credit card
#1267 [14:47] <xorcon> just 5 minutes ago
#1268 [14:47] <xorcon> buying terraria on steam
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#1270 [14:48] <xorcon> I dont see what is the problem with it :S
#1271 [14:48] <xorcon> Vulpine
#1272 [14:48] <xorcon> Should i retry doing it or?
#1273 [14:48] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - You should try it again, but try paypal
#1274 [14:48] <JulieSpicci> I've tried 4 different cards two different ways and it still isn't going through.
#1275 [14:48] <JulieSpicci> I'm about to give up...
#1276 [14:48] <xorcon> But what iff it did happen
#1277 [14:48] <Sirdraws> ok i need help just downloaded the latest MC patcher for my minecraft and tried to run it but it didnt work saying "there was an error opening minecraft.jar. This may be because:" and it list several reasons i dont think are the problem
#1278 [14:49] <xorcon> Iff it was paied
#1279 [14:49] <xorcon> payed
#1280 [14:49] <xorcon> ^^
#1281 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> JulieSpicci - Hmm, you may need to call up the card's customer service, see if there's anything blocking the transaction from going through. Make sure to note that this is an international purchase, since it's going to sweden.
#1282 [14:49] <JulieSpicci> On all four cards?
#1283 [14:49] <GreyVulpine> JulieSpicci - Many credit cards have international fraud protection.
#1284 [14:49] <JulieSpicci> One of with I bought my sisters Mine Craft game a few months ago?
#1285 [14:49] <Sirdraws> i'm using a mac and modded the minecraft to play 1.8
#1286 [14:50] <JulieSpicci> which*
#1287 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> JulieSpicci - That, I don't know. Over 3 million people have purchased minecraft successfully... so..
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#1289 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Sirdraws - We don't provide support for mods here.
#1290 [14:50] <JulieSpicci> Where's your stat for unsuccessful purchases?
#1291 [14:50] <JulieSpicci> I mean this is ridiculous...
#1292 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> JulieSpicci - Also, we're not Mojang here. We're fan-based community support
#1293 [14:50] <Sirdraws> i know its just is 1.8 working legit on macs now?
#1294 [14:50] <xorcon> Vulpine
#1295 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - Moment please
#1296 [14:50] <xorcon> Ok sry
#1297 [14:50] <GreyVulpine> Sirdraws - Depends on the Mac OSX
#1298 [14:51] <JulieSpicci> What evs.
#1299 [14:51] <JulieSpicci> I'm out.
#1300 [14:51] <JulieSpicci> This sucks.
#1301 [14:51] <Sirdraws> i'm using snow leopard
#1302 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Sirdraws - There is currently an incompatibility with 1.8.1 and Mac OSX 10.5 and earlier
#1303 [14:51] <mib_vh8oze> is there anything else i can do???
#1304 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, you may be experiencing that.
#1305 [14:51] <Sirdraws> i'm using version 10.5.8
#1306 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Sirdraws - You'll need to wait for minecraft 1.9 to be released. It'll address that issue
#1307 [14:51] <Sirdraws> dammit well what about the MC patcher can you help with that?
#1308 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Sirdraws - Sorry, nope
#1309 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to hit up #risucraft for modloader help
#1310 [14:52] <mib_vh8oze> Me? 19
#1311 [14:52] <mib_vh8oze> *1.9
#1312 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - If you don't know if the purchase went through, you can always call up the card
#1313 [14:52] <xorcon> Oh
#1314 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> There's always a customer support number on the back of every credit card
#1315 [14:52] <xorcon> Thank you a lot
#1316 [14:53] <xorcon> So iff i buy it via paypal
#1317 [14:53] <xorcon> will i get confirmed in 1 hour
#1318 [14:53] <xorcon> or?
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#1320 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> It can be immediate, but people have reported transactions taking up to several hours to go through
#1321 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> So.. just be aware of that.
#1322 [14:53] <mib_vh8oze> Anything???
#1323 [14:54] <xorcon> Oh but it will come before 2 days right?
#1324 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - Yes
#1325 [14:54] <xorcon> Thanks dude a bigggg lot your a man
#1326 [14:54] <xorcon> :)
#1327 [14:54] <confecta> anyone know how to fix client crash, my client crash every 5-10min and it's annoying
#1328 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> mib_vh8oze - Still waiting on you giving us a dxdiag
#1329 [14:54] <xorcon> bye bye
#1330 [14:54] <mib_vh8oze> ???
#1331 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead gave you instructions on how to gather a dxdiag report, so that we may see what video card you have, and suggest how to update your video card's drivers
#1332 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> Could you please follow them?
#1333 [14:55] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/dxdiag
#1334 [14:55] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1335 [14:55] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1336 [14:55] <mib_vh8oze> http://pastebin.com/ST4bckEG
#1337 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> Ah, did you download the file from dell's site and install it?
#1338 [14:56] <GreyVulpine> http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&os=WW1&osl=en&SystemID=INS_PNT_1501&catid=-1&impid=-1
#1339 [14:57] <confecta> Does anyone know how to fix client crash, my client crash every 5-10min and it's annoying
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#1341 [14:57] <mib_vh8oze> What do i do with this????
#1342 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> confecta - Do you get any error reports? If so, please pastebin.com it and give us the address to it
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#1344 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> mib_vh8oze - Did you go to http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&os=WW1&osl=en&SystemID=INS_PNT_1501&catid=-1&impid=-1
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#1346 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> Once you are there, please go to the video section, there'll be a file there. Download and install it
#1347 [14:58] <mib_vh8oze> Any other way?
#1348 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Get a new computer?
#1349 [14:58] <mib_vh8oze> Balls
#1350 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Your current computer's probably at least 5-8 years old.
#1351 [14:58] <mib_vh8oze> Less
#1352 [14:58] <confecta> i did get an error but it's a different fault the the usual
#1353 [14:59] <Raddar98778> Um can someone help? i load my minecraft then log in but it gets stop on the downloading packages thing :/ and i deleted all mine documents and reinstalled but still does not work:/ SOMEONE HELLLPPPP!!!!
#1354 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> confecta - Could you share that error via pastebin.com?
#1355 [14:59] <GreyVulpine> confecta - Would help us, help you, to know what the error actually is
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#1357 [14:59] <Raddar98778> ok...
#1358 [15:00] <confecta> http://pastebin.com/bnamyHLA
#1359 [15:00] <confecta> her ya go
#1360 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> Raddar98778 - How far do you get in the downloading packages thing? What operating system are you on?
#1361 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> confecta - That's a.. java issue. Try completely uninstalling java and reinstalling it fresh
#1362 [15:01] <Raddar98778> windows 7 and sometimes it is right at the beginning and sometimes its right at the end
#1363 [15:01] <confecta> really
#1364 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> Raddar98778 - Has it ever worked before?
#1365 [15:01] <confecta> god damnit why dident i think of that
#1366 [15:01] <GreyVulpine> confecta - Looks like it to me.
#1367 [15:01] <confecta> thanks
#1368 [15:01] <Raddar98778> yea for ages i use it all the time its just suddenly not worked
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#1371 [15:03] <Raddar98778> any ideas? :/
#1372 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> Raddar98778 - Did you clear the minecraft files in %appdata%/.minecraft? (saving "saves")
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#1374 [15:03] <xorcon> Vulpine
#1375 [15:03] <Raddar98778> Yes i deleted every trace of the folder
#1376 [15:03] <xorcon> It is me again
#1377 [15:03] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - Yes?
#1378 [15:03] <xorcon> It worked :D
#1379 [15:04] <xorcon> I just retried without paypal
#1380 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - Glad to hear it
#1381 [15:04] <xorcon> And got it right away
#1382 [15:04] <xorcon> Thank you a lot
#1383 [15:04] <xorcon> I know what might of been the problem
#1384 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> xorcon - Please share...
#1385 [15:04] <xorcon> I used the credit card like 1 minute before that
#1386 [15:04] <xorcon> Maybe it was charging
#1387 [15:04] <xorcon> The credit card
#1388 [15:04] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, maybe.
#1389 [15:04] <xorcon> So it didnt want to work
#1390 [15:04] <xorcon> :D well thx a lot
#1391 [15:05] <xorcon> Im gonna go play some now
#1392 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Raddar98778 - Hmm, did you redownload the minecraft.exe launcher as well?
#1393 [15:05] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1393 [15:05] <xorcon> Zz
#1394 [15:05] <Raddar98778> it dosnt even work in browser
#1395 [15:05] <Raddar98778> and yes i did
#1396 [15:05] <Raddar98778> 3 times ><
#1397 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> Raddar98778 - What happens in the browser?
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#1399 [15:05] <GreyVulpine> White/black screen?
#1400 [15:05] <Raddar98778> the same thing it gets stuck on the first bit of the downloading
#1401 [15:05] <Raddar98778> black
#1402 [15:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, first guess would be AV/security software that's blocking java or minecraft from downloading files
#1403 [15:06] <Raddar98778> ok ill see
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#1405 [15:07] <mudpit> Hey
#1406 [15:07] <mudpit> Can someone please give me a survival server with not too many people?
#1407 [15:08] <Raddar98778> nope i switch my firewall off compltely and then when i clicked "do not update" it just said done loading but did not load anything else
#1408 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Raddar98778 - Hmm, could you clear .minecraft again, turn off the firewall, then try updating minecraft
#1409 [15:08] <Raddar98778> ok
#1410 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> ??> mudpit smp/servers
#1411 [15:08] <VoxelHead> mudpit: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1412 [15:08] <VoxelHead> mudpit: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1413 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> mudpit - Those sites there, should give you plenty of servers to choose from
#1414 [15:09] <mudpit> Ok thanks
#1415 [15:09] <mudpit> When will the full game be released?
#1416 [15:09] <Raddar98778> Nope still dont work ><
#1417 [15:09] <GreyVulpine> 1.9 will be released during minecon, on Nov 18th
#1418 [15:09] <mudpit> Ok, I've already "bought" it from the website , will I get it without having to pay then ?
#1419 [15:10] <[z]> Didn't they say it would be later?
#1420 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> mudpit - Yes, you can download the launcher from minecraft.net/download
#1421 [15:10] <mudpit> ok, great
#1422 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> [z] - Not aware of anything like that..
#1423 [15:10] <mudpit> Last question
#1424 [15:10] <mudpit> is Minecraft connected to steam?
#1425 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> It is not
#1426 [15:10] <mudpit> Ok thanks
#1427 [15:10] <mudpit> Heard some rumors that server could be found at steam
#1428 [15:10] <mudpit> Oh well , that was all
#1429 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope.
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#1431 [15:11] <mudpit> Bye
#1432 [15:11] * GreyVulpine waves
#1432 [15:11] <Raddar98778> vulpine any more ideas?
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#1434 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> Raddar98778 - Minecraft has worked before, on your current computer?
#1435 [15:12] <GreyVulpine> You haven't changed usernames?
#1436 [15:12] <Raddar98778> yep same comp used it for about a year
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#1438 [15:13] <k3hhu> Hello, I was given a key minecraft, the first month it worked, but now appear an error "user not premium"
#1439 [15:13] <Confecta> greyvulpine i reinstalled java and i am still getting kicks
#1440 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> Confecta - Same error?
#1441 [15:14] <GreyVulpine> k3hhu - Most likely, that key was revoked somehow, either by the person reverting payment on it, or...
#1442 [15:15] <Confecta> i dident get a report
#1443 [15:15] <Confecta> could it be something related to memory?
#1444 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Confecta - Tell me exactly what is happening right now
#1445 [15:16] <k3hhu> Ключ был подарен другом, он его не возвращал. Что делать?
#1446 [15:16] <[z]> I can't find where I read it
#1447 [15:16] <k3hhu> The key was presented to the other, he did not return. What should I do?
#1448 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> k3hhu - Talk to the person who bought the key, see if the key is present in the person's profile page at minecraft.net
#1449 [15:17] <Confecta> greyvulpine, well i play and suddenly it crashes with and error that says something about a problem not specific and that i will be contacted when it's fixed
#1450 [15:17] <GreyVulpine> k3hhu - We see this frequently when a person buys a key, gives it to a person, then reverses the payment on the key, making the key unauthorized for premium
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#1452 [15:18] <Confecta> greyvulpine, i've played a couple of days now and it hasen't changed it stops with no warning.
#1453 [15:18] <GreyVulpine> Confecta - And when you reinstalled java, you completely removed all traces of java beforehand?
#1454 [15:20] <Raddar98778> Grey any ideas ?
#1455 [15:20] <Confecta> greyvulpine, i uninstalled so i guess all of it was gone if there isn't a folder or something that is hidden
#1456 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Raddar98778 - Could you launch minecraft via the in-browser client at minecraft.net, when it starts to load minecraft, you'll see a white coffee cup icon in your system tray, click on it. There, you'll see the java console. Pull that up
#1457 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Raddar98778 - You'll be able to share with us, what exactly is going on, by copying the text in the java console, then pasting it at www.pastebin.com, and giving us the address to it
#1458 [15:22] <Raddar98778> oke
#1459 [15:22] <GreyVulpine> Confecta - Hmm. Have you done a reinstall of the minecraft files yet?
#1460 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Confecta - Gone into %appdata%/.minecraft and deleted everything but "saves"?
#1461 [15:23] <Confecta> yes and if there's somehidden thing then no
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#1463 [15:24] <Raddar98778> Ok i stuck it up there
#1464 [15:24] <minecraftfc> CAn someone help me with my server?
#1465 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. I see the error you gave me last time, frequently with corrupt java installs. Usually a full java reinstall fixes it.
#1466 [15:24] <Confecta> greyvulpine, ok i will try again
#1467 [15:24] <GreyVulpine> Raddar98778 - What's the URL to it?
#1468 [15:24] <k3hhu> Can I send the keys to the support to that they have checked out what happened with the key?
#1469 [15:25] <Raddar98778> http://pastebin.com/ySgzWAQv
#1470 [15:25] <minecraftfc> When people try to connect to me server (even though it's full connection) it comes up with bad login.
#1471 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> k3hhu - You can try. Try emailing daniel@mojang.com with the key
#1472 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> minecraftfc - Usually means that those people either had a bad malformed login token, or they pirated minecraft
#1473 [15:25] <minecraftfc> OK...
#1474 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> minecraftfc - Try having them close minecraft, then log into your minecraft server again. Try having them log into other servers, see if they get "bad login"
#1475 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> If they still get bad login, I'm fairly confident they're pirating minecraft.
#1476 [15:26] <minecraftfc> OK.
#1477 [15:29] <minecraftfc> Yeah he's pirating Mc.
#1478 [15:29] <Raddar98778> you understand problem?
#1479 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Raddar98778 - Sorry, moment please..
#1480 [15:29] <Raddar98778> yep cool
#1481 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Gotta be your security software/firewall/AV blocking java from downloading minecraft
#1482 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> What security software do you run?
#1483 [15:32] <k3hhu> Ok, thx
#1484 [15:32] <Raddar98778> Norton
#1485 [15:33] <GreyVulpine> Could you try disabling the AV portion as well for a minute while you try to run minecraft?
#1486 [15:33] <Raddar98778> yep ok
#1487 [15:34] <Raddar98778> Nope nothing
#1488 [15:34] <GreyVulpine> Running any other security software?
#1489 [15:36] <Raddar98778> none
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#1493 [15:37] <GreyVulpine> I believe this is occuring because something on your computer is blocking minecraft from downloading the files it needs. Usual causes are AV/security software or firewall.
#1494 [15:38] <Raddar98778> oke i will try to find anything else thanks for now
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#1498 [15:53] <tyboss18> every time i go on minecraft and start playing it gives me a couple seconds and then the whole screen turns into minecraft stone
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#1502 [15:54] <tyboss18> every time i go on minecraft and start playing it gives me a couple seconds and then the whole screen turns into minecraft stone
#1503 [15:55] <tyboss18> any suggestions
#1504 [15:56] <tyboss18> hello
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#1506 [15:57] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: try a smaller window?
#1507 [15:57] <minew0rld7890> can some1 help my with a problem?
#1508 [15:58] <minew0rld7890> mc crash while playing and don't show block textures
#1509 [15:58] <minew0rld7890> it runs smoothly but keeps crashing
#1510 [15:58] <minew0rld7890> no mods installed etc
#1511 [15:59] <Ketsueki> minew0rld7890: try making a new world
#1512 [15:59] <tyboss18> no i mean the game stops and then it turns into the rock on the home screen and i cant do anything
#1513 [15:59] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: same
#1514 [15:59] <tyboss18> but i cant play at all
#1515 [16:00] <minew0rld7890> i already deleted the wole .minecraft, reinstalled java, downloaded the newest client, etc
#1516 [16:00] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: have you tried creating a new world to isolate that it isn't the world problem?
#1517 [16:00] <minew0rld7890> i can play 1.7 fine without crash
#1518 [16:00] <minew0rld7890> but 1.8 crashes
#1519 [16:00] <Ketsueki> minew0rld7890: how about your graphics drivers?
#1520 [16:00] <tyboss18> no the problem is on every world i create and on multiplayer
#1521 [16:01] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: your issue too sounds like it could be graphics driver related.
#1522 [16:01] <minew0rld7890> when i play mc my pc makes a weird noise (i don't know if it's the graphics driver or anything else)
#1523 [16:01] <Ketsueki> ... minew0rld7890 like a vacuum cleaner?
#1524 [16:01] <tyboss18> im not good with computers and i dont no wat a graphic driver is
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#1526 [16:02] <minew0rld7890> yeah likely it's overheating or something
#1527 [16:02] <Ketsueki> minew0rld7890: you know how to clean out dust from a computer safely, right?
#1528 [16:02] <minew0rld7890> it sounds like: tr tr tr tr tr tr tr and mc closes
#1529 [16:03] <minew0rld7890> i think it's not the dust
#1530 [16:03] <minew0rld7890> becouse 1.7 always run without crash
#1531 [16:03] <Ketsueki> Oh deer, that sounds like it might be a failed hardware fan.
#1532 [16:03] <tyboss18> wuts the graphics driver
#1533 [16:03] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: google that
#1534 [16:03] <Ketsueki> ?? win/dxdiag
#1535 [16:03] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1536 [16:03] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1537 [16:04] <minew0rld7890> i did think it's something with minecraft
#1538 [16:04] <Ketsueki> You'll also probably want to do that for later. I don't have time to babysit though; as I should actually get back to my day job.
#1539 [16:04] <minew0rld7890> something is wrong in the scripting code
#1540 [16:04] <minew0rld7890> but not sure
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#1542 [16:05] <yoshi> whenever i try to play in browser my window says its not responding
#1543 [16:05] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: if you do that and post the link I /might/ look at it when I have a spare moment.
#1544 [16:06] <yoshi> ok
#1545 [16:06] <minew0rld7890> i have a vid of the error but played on a not official launcher cuz the other launcher did not work when i did make the video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sHS0WynsQQ
#1546 [16:08] <yoshi> no like the problem is whenver i try to play inbrowser it says internet explorer has stopped working and it cant connetct
#1547 [16:08] <minew0rld7890> try the client or the .exe
#1548 [16:08] <yoshi> what the hell is that
#1549 [16:09] <minew0rld7890> minecraft.exe download at www.minecraft.net
#1550 [16:09] <yoshi> o ok
#1551 [16:09] <minew0rld7890> not play with internet but from pc directly
#1552 [16:09] <minew0rld7890> maybe it works
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#1554 [16:10] <mib_m5otsx> hello
#1555 [16:10] <mib_m5otsx> i have major lag
#1556 [16:10] <yoshi> like even the classic doesnt work i can get to the site but then when i try to play in browser it wont connect
#1557 [16:10] <mib_m5otsx> help?
#1558 [16:10] <RobinJ24> mib_m5otsx: Your ram is probably low
#1559 [16:10] <mib_m5otsx> 3gb
#1560 [16:11] <Ketsueki> ??> mib_m5otsx win/dxdiag
#1561 [16:11] <VoxelHead> mib_m5otsx: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1562 [16:11] <VoxelHead> mib_m5otsx: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1563 [16:11] <mib_m5otsx> direct x 11
#1564 [16:11] <Ketsueki> yoshi: same thing, dxdiag
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#1566 [16:12] <Ketsueki> mib_m5otsx: the 'dxdiag' diagnostic tool posts a lot
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#1568 [16:12] <tyboss18> wats the IRC channel
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#1570 [16:13] <tyboss18> is this the IRC channel
#1571 [16:13] <mib_m5otsx> i ssomeone waiting for me to post my dxdiag?
#1572 [16:13] <tyboss18> http://pastebin.com/MQA5B3NJ
#1573 [16:14] <tyboss18> thats my dxdiag voxelhead
#1574 [16:14] <mib_m5otsx> I am ScottMC
#1575 [16:14] <mib_m5otsx> my dig is there
#1576 [16:14] <minew0rld7890> who got this error? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sHS0WynsQQ
#1577 [16:14] <mib_m5otsx> diag
#1578 [16:15] <mib_m5otsx> http://pastebin.com/rFHKDqfs
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#1580 [16:16] <mib_m5otsx> any guesses?
#1581 [16:17] <tyboss18> wat do i do after i post my dxdiag
#1582 [16:17] <mib_m5otsx> I get 5fps
#1583 [16:17] <mib_m5otsx> =(
#1584 [16:17] <minew0rld7890> i think minecraft doesn't work on windows xp
#1585 [16:17] <minew0rld7890> only on 7
#1586 [16:17] <minew0rld7890> or vista
#1587 [16:17] <mib_m5otsx> I on 7
#1588 [16:17] <minew0rld7890> i no xp
#1589 [16:17] <minew0rld7890> for my it doesn't lagg
#1590 [16:17] <minew0rld7890> but only crashes
#1591 [16:18] <tyboss18> i hav xp but minecraft used to work
#1592 [16:18] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: VoxelHead is a bot. You have /very/ low ram and gpu memory. You should only be playing on the lowest end settings and MAY need to do some tricks to play with low memory.
#1593 [16:18] <Ketsueki> ??> tyboss18 gpu/ati
#1594 [16:18] <Ketsueki> ??> tyboss18 gpu/amd
#1595 [16:18] <VoxelHead> tyboss18: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1596 [16:18] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: RADEON X300 Series for WinXP 32 bit
#1597 [16:19] <minew0rld7890> run minecraft
#1598 [16:19] <tyboss18> thanks ketsueki
#1599 [16:19] <minew0rld7890> press
#1600 [16:19] <minew0rld7890> ctrl+alt+delete
#1601 [16:19] <minew0rld7890> check if something uses more than like 50% cpu
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#1603 [16:19] <minew0rld7890> if it's not javaw.exe it's not minecraft
#1604 [16:19] <mib_m5otsx> Can anyone help me? I getting 5fps
#1605 [16:19] <Enar_King> Hey, I've had a problem for quite a while now. Details @ http://pastebin.com/sPEXHRNW
#1606 [16:20] <minew0rld7890> press ctrl alt delete
#1607 [16:20] <minew0rld7890> or download mod: optifine
#1608 [16:20] <Enar_King> I've searched for help here as well ( www.minecraftforum.net/topic/361477-help-black-screen/ )
#1609 [16:20] <Ketsueki> minew0rld7890: I'm sorry, the GMA 9x0 chipset is very crippled. You will be unable to have a positive minecraft experience until you have a real GPU. You /MAY/ be able to limp by at low FPS if you use the absolute lowest settings.
#1610 [16:21] <minew0rld7890> ok ill try
#1611 [16:21] <Enar_King> minew0rld7890 turn on fog
#1612 [16:21] <mib_m5otsx> can anyone hear me?
#1613 [16:21] <Enar_King> Yes.
#1614 [16:21] <rymate1234> no
#1615 [16:21] <rymate1234> sorry
#1616 [16:21] <mib_m5otsx> i submitted my diag
#1617 [16:21] <rymate1234> ok
#1618 [16:21] <mib_m5otsx> http://pastebin.com/rFHKDqfs
#1619 [16:22] <mib_m5otsx> ?
#1620 [16:22] <rymate1234> hmmm
#1621 [16:22] <rymate1234> i sees problem
#1622 [16:22] <rymate1234> intel graphics
#1623 [16:23] <Ketsueki> Did I grab the wrong user's link? Oh sorry minew0rld7890 ; all that stuff I said should have been for mib_m5otsx
#1624 [16:23] <tyboss18> Ketsueki: i dont no wat the product family my product belongs to
#1625 [16:23] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: X300
#1626 [16:23] <minew0rld7890> my pc makes still the weird noise at the lowest settings :(
#1627 [16:24] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: radeon X
#1628 [16:25] <mib_m5otsx> Ket: will the optifine mod help at all?
#1629 [16:25] <minew0rld7890> atioptifine did less the lagg only
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#1631 [16:25] <mib_m5otsx> optifine does not increase fps?
#1632 [16:25] <minew0rld7890> it makes mc smoothly
#1633 [16:25] <minew0rld7890> (for my)
#1634 [16:26] <minew0rld7890> but not fixing error
#1635 [16:26] <Ketsueki> mib, I have no idea
#1636 [16:26] <Ketsueki> I don't run windows for my own stuff
#1637 [16:26] <minew0rld7890> i think i can play mc again when it get on ios but it's not survival :(
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#1640 [16:28] <onthelooseJason> Hello i have premium account with minecraft. but when i try to log in it say its not premium. Please help
#1641 [16:28] <rymate1234> hi
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#1643 [16:28] <rymate1234> when did you buy?
#1644 [16:28] <tyboss18> Ketsueki: that info did apply to my problem
#1645 [16:28] <onthelooseJason> probably back in march or may
#1646 [16:29] <rymate1234> oh
#1647 [16:29] <rymate1234> hmmmmmm
#1648 [16:29] <rymate1234> you type username right in client?
#1649 [16:29] <onthelooseJason> yea i did forgot username in the email it even states am a premium user
#1650 [16:30] <onthelooseJason> * ontheloose (Premium!)* onthelooseJason
#1651 [16:30] <tyboss18> http://pastebin.com/MQA5B3NJ
#1652 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> !paid onthelooseJason
#1653 [16:30] <rymate1234> hmmm
#1654 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> !paid ontheloose
#1655 [16:30] <minew0rld7890> !paid onthelooseJason
#1656 [16:30] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: You STILL have not installed the new ATI driver
#1657 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> !paid ontheloose
#1658 [16:31] <Ketsueki> The one for your platform was released in Feb of 2010; your driver file is dated 2004
#1659 [16:31] <rymate1234> !paid ontheloose
#1660 [16:31] <minew0rld7890> what's ur acc name?
#1661 [16:31] <minew0rld7890> ontheloose?
#1662 [16:31] <rymate1234> try the user ontheloose
#1663 [16:31] <tyboss18> Ketsueki: I suck with cputers and im lost
#1664 [16:31] <rymate1234> :)
#1665 [16:31] <onthelooseJason> onthelooseJason
#1666 [16:31] <onthelooseJason> i tried doesn't seem to work
#1667 [16:31] <minew0rld7890> !paid onthelooseJason
#1668 [16:32] <minew0rld7890> nope u did not pay for mc
#1669 [16:32] <minew0rld7890> maybe try it again
#1670 [16:32] <onthelooseJason> but i did
#1671 [16:32] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: either you download and install the ATI driver to updated your X300 or you retain the problem. The choice is yours.
#1672 [16:33] <tyboss18> Ketsueki: I NEED GUIDENCE
#1673 [16:33] <minew0rld7890> what methode u use for paying?
#1674 [16:33] <tyboss18> NEVER MIND
#1675 [16:33] <Ketsueki> That IS your guidence
#1676 [16:33] <minew0rld7890> my pc sucks!!
#1677 [16:33] <onthelooseJason> visa or paypal dont remeber
#1678 [16:33] <minew0rld7890> cannot play everything i like to play
#1679 [16:33] <rymate1234> onthelooseJason, try with ontheloose
#1680 [16:34] <tyboss18> Ket: the thing is i dont no how to download and install it
#1681 [16:34] <mib_f2o9j5> Hey, I'm having issues loading the game in the browser. Says it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. I'm running on a Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset and I've updated all the drivers, still doesn't work. Any ideas?
#1682 [16:34] <minew0rld7890> make new mc acc and try again
#1683 [16:34] <rymate1234> ...
#1684 [16:34] <onthelooseJason> thanks guys everything worked just changed the pass for ontheloose
#1685 [16:34] <Ketsueki> mib_f2o9j5: get a better computer?
#1686 [16:34] <rymate1234> yay
#1687 [16:34] <minew0rld7890> ok
#1688 [16:34] <onthelooseJason> wow amazing help guys <3 ya
#1689 [16:35] <rymate1234> ur welcone :)
#1690 [16:35] <minew0rld7890> but... someone got this error?? watch?v=m0gr7dlrjNE plz i need a fix
#1691 [16:35] <tyboss18> Ketsueki: hello
#1692 [16:35] <minew0rld7890> it's called: hs_err_pid780
#1693 [16:36] <Ketsueki> tyboss18: I can't help you with that. Maybe you could find someone more adventurous and/or more knowledgable about such things. Generally any teenager with good math scores should be able to help you here.
#1694 [16:36] <rymate1234> ask me!
#1695 [16:36] <minew0rld7890> stupid pc :/ i realy need a good one
#1696 [16:36] <mib_f2o9j5> Ketsueki: haha, very funny. If my computer can run all my run all my CPU heavy production programs and the graphics card can handle stuff like The Witcher, then I don't think I need a "better" computer
#1697 [16:36] <rymate1234> i gots an a in my math mock
#1698 [16:37] <rymate1234> ^_*
#1699 [16:37] <minew0rld7890> mc runs smoothly on my pc
#1700 [16:37] <minew0rld7890> if it runs smoothly my pc can run i think
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#1702 [16:37] <minew0rld7890> it runs like with 50fps
#1703 [16:37] <Ketsueki> mib_f2o9j5: I have no idea what the other game is or what GPU it wants; however your intel chipset sounds like /nothing/ recent, and until the HD 3000s all intel graphics SUCKED
#1704 [16:38] <Ketsueki> So either you have hardware you aren't telling us about, or you're wrong.
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#1706 [16:38] <minew0rld7890> i got: intel pentium M
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#1708 [16:39] <minew0rld7890> 2,00gb RAM
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#1710 [16:39] <mib_f2o9j5> My specs are: Intel Core 2 Duo: 2.00GHz, 2GB RAM, and Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset with around 1256 or so MB of video memory
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#1712 [16:40] <ethanlove1> My minecraft is coming up with an error, could anyone help?
#1713 [16:40] <minew0rld7890> my pc is from 2006 so, i can belive it haves the stupid error :(
#1714 [16:40] <mib_f2o9j5> mine's around 2 years old
#1715 [16:40] <minew0rld7890> u got the hs_err_pid error to?
#1716 [16:41] <ethanlove1> yeah
#1717 [16:41] <Ketsueki> mib_f2o9j5: No ATI/AMD or Nvidia chipset for graphics?
#1718 [16:41] <ethanlove1> is there anyway i can fix it?
#1719 [16:41] <minew0rld7890> fix what?
#1720 [16:41] <minew0rld7890> u got it like this?
#1721 [16:41] <minew0rld7890> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sHS0WynsQQ
#1722 [16:42] <ethanlove1> minecraft, so the error wont appear
#1723 [16:42] <mib_f2o9j5> I doubt it's a hardware issue. If I can run Ableton Live 8, Serato Itch, Torq 2.0, FL Studio 10 and all of my programs on Steam I highly doubt there's something wrong with my hardware
#1724 [16:42] <mib_f2o9j5> and no on the ATI/AMD or Nvidia chipset
#1725 [16:42] <minew0rld7890> i got fl 10 pro lol
#1726 [16:42] <tyboss18> Ketsueki: k thx anyway
#1727 [16:42] <Ketsueki> mib_f2o9j5: I have no idea what those other games are or how intense they are GRAPHICS wise. You might have enough CPU to run it, but GPU is also needed.
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#1729 [16:43] <ethanlove1> it asks me if i want to update but then it freezes in the process
#1730 [16:44] <minew0rld7890> the only game that's working on my pc is : gta san andreas
#1731 [16:44] <minew0rld7890> download 1.8.1
#1732 [16:44] <minew0rld7890> from internet
#1733 [16:44] <ethanlove1> i have
#1734 [16:44] <mib_f2o9j5> Most of the programs I listed are CPU heavy. While my GPU isn't the best, it gets the job done on most programs I have. My guess is that it has something to do with either my OS (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3) or there's a bug in the Minecraft folder
#1735 [16:44] <minew0rld7890> force update?
#1736 [16:44] <ethanlove1> Off of the minecraft website?
#1737 [16:44] <minew0rld7890> i think it's service pack 3
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#1739 [16:45] <minew0rld7890> download it from google or something
#1740 [16:45] <minew0rld7890> search minecraft 1.8.1.jar download
#1741 [16:45] <ethanlove1> I have deleted my minecraft folder in hope that will help but it doesnt
#1742 [16:45] <Kealper> i sense my expertise is needed
#1743 [16:45] <minew0rld7890> did 1.7 runs fine for you to?
#1744 [16:46] <ethanlove1> yeah
#1745 [16:46] <mib_f2o9j5> I had no issues with MC before 1.8
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#1747 [16:46] <Kealper> mib_f2o9j5: what's your graphics chip?
#1748 [16:46] <ethanlove1> it worked okay until i installed a mod so then i force updated it and it still doesnt work
#1749 [16:46] <ethanlove1> i have no clue
#1750 [16:47] <Kealper> ??> ethanlove1 win/reinst
#1751 [16:47] <VoxelHead> ethanlove1: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1752 [16:47] <minew0rld7890> mc 1.7 did runs for my to without errors
#1753 [16:47] <VoxelHead> ethanlove1: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1754 [16:47] <mib_f2o9j5> Kealper: Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset w/ latest drivers
#1755 [16:47] <Kealper> actually better question.... mib_f2o9j5 what was your original issue?
#1756 [16:47] <ethanlove1> It doesnt have the correct java files in the bin
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#1758 [16:48] <mib_f2o9j5> says it can't find an accelerated Open GL mode
#1759 [16:49] <Kealper> hmm...
#1760 [16:49] <Ketsueki> mib_f2o9j5: minecraft is /extremely/ GPU intensive.
#1761 [16:50] <mib_f2o9j5> it ran completely fine before 1.7, was there that big of a change in GPU usage when 1.8 hit?
#1762 [16:50] <Ketsueki> Minecraft 1.8 also added a better texture lighting system; but requires a higher OpenGL level
#1763 [16:50] <ethanlove1> Kealper do you have any ideas on how to fix this
#1764 [16:51] <Kealper> ok it looks like that GPU is a GMA 4500HD mobile-version
#1765 [16:51] <Kealper> ??> ethanlove1 win/reinst
#1766 [16:51] <VoxelHead> ethanlove1: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1767 [16:51] <VoxelHead> ethanlove1: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1768 [16:51] <Kealper> mib_f2o9j5: where did you get the drivers for it? Windows Update or the Intel site?
#1769 [16:51] <ethanlove1> update
#1770 [16:52] <mib_f2o9j5> Kealper: Intel site
#1771 [16:52] <Kealper> ethanlove1: that last question was directed at someone else
#1772 [16:52] <Kealper> ethanlove1: follow what VoxelHead told you just above this
#1773 [16:53] <Kealper> mib_f2o9j5: and it has not worked at all throughout 1.8, and you have tried reinstalling the files/Java?
#1774 [16:53] <ethanlove1> Do you have msn or something like that and i will send you a screenshot of it
#1775 [16:53] <minew0rld7890> will minecraft come to flash player so it can work for my and all other people with the same problems??
#1776 [16:53] <Kealper> minew0rld7890: Minecraft doesn't use Flash
#1777 [16:53] <minew0rld7890> ok
#1778 [16:53] <mib_f2o9j5> Kealper: Actually I've never logged into 1.8 before, been gone a while.
#1779 [16:54] <Kealper> and won't ever use Flash
#1780 [16:54] <mib_f2o9j5> well, not on my laptop anyways
#1781 [16:54] <Kealper> mib_f2o9j5: you've never tried it out on that laptop before?
#1782 [16:54] <minew0rld7890> java keeps crashing with hs_err_pid txt messages on desktop
#1783 [16:54] <Kealper> minew0rld7890: can you open that file and copy the whole thing and then paste it on to http://pastebin.com and submit it?
#1784 [16:55] <minew0rld7890> ok
#1785 [16:55] <mib_f2o9j5> Kealper: Yeah, used to play 1.6 and 1.7 all the time on this thing. I've played 1.8 on my college's computers and it runs fine (they're old dells from around '08)
#1786 [16:55] <mib_f2o9j5> Kealper: just never played 1.8 on the laptop before
#1787 [16:55] <Kealper> hmm...this is a crapshoot, but it's worth a try
#1788 [16:56] <Kealper> ??> mib_f2o9j5 1.8
#1789 [16:56] <VoxelHead> mib_f2o9j5: (1.8) 1.8 has been officially released.
#1790 [16:56] <Kealper> derp
#1791 [16:56] <Kealper> that was not the one i was looking for...hold on
#1792 [16:56] <minew0rld7890> http://pastebin.com/T1rtT6hA
#1793 [16:56] <Kealper> ??< 1.8fix
#1794 [16:56] * Kealper pets AuBot
#1794 [16:56] <Kealper> D:
#1795 [16:56] <minew0rld7890> ok
#1796 [16:57] <mib_f2o9j5> Kealper: I'm confused as to what your confused about
#1797 [16:57] <minew0rld7890> ill know it now
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#1799 [16:57] <minew0rld7890> bye u all
#1800 [16:57] <Kealper> minew0rld7890: as for your issue, either your graphics drivers are out of date, or your graphics chip is too old to support OpenGL 1.3, as AuBot said, that issue is fixed in Minecraft 1.9 which should be out in about 2 weeks or so if you ....damnit
#1801 [16:58] <Kealper> anywho
#1802 [16:58] <Kealper> i can't remember the fix link, i was hoping that VoxelHead bot had it...
#1803 [16:58] <Kealper> !motd
#1804 [16:58] <Kealper> ahh, the MOTD still has it
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#1806 [16:59] <mib_f2o9j5> ???
#1807 [16:59] <Kealper> http://u.kealper.com/MBlr that links to minecraftforum, there is a post on there that might be able to fix it
#1808 [17:00] <Kealper> as i said before, it's a complete crapshoot, but seeing as i've got no other ideas on what it could be....that's about all i can recommend :/
#1809 [17:00] <mib_f2o9j5> You're refering to me, right?
#1810 [17:00] <Kealper> yes
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#1817 [17:08] <private_meta> can anyone tell me why i can't set or remove blocks on a freshly setup minecraft server? (1.8.1 on linux)
#1818 [17:10] <[z]> Go further from spawn
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#1821 [17:16] <Aratsi> my issue is that the face apparel on my skins won't show for some reason
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#1823 [17:17] <Person5323> hello, I need help setting up a server. can someone help me?
#1824 [17:18] <Person5323> it keeps saying generating new properties file but not getting past that
#1825 [17:18] <private_meta> Person5323: does your user running the server have sufficient rights to create files there?
#1826 [17:19] <Person5323> yes it is an administator
#1827 [17:20] <private_meta> windows?
#1828 [17:20] <Person5323> windows7
#1829 [17:20] <private_meta> you could pastebin what it says exactly in the server log
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#1832 [17:22] <Person5323> its not letting me copy it....
#1833 [17:23] <Person5323> says at nt.a (sourcefile:37) then say nt.b (sourcefile:29)
#1834 [17:23] <Person5323> keeps repeating it
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#1838 [17:24] <Edinator101> ummm, could sombody healp me with a server problem?
#1839 [17:25] <private_meta> Person5323: and the server.log file?
#1840 [17:25] <Person5323> ahh good idea!
#1841 [17:25] <Edinator101> yeah, the server comands file
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#1843 [17:28] <Person5323> ahh did not run the program as admin...noob mistake sorry!
#1844 [17:28] <Edinator101> my server is not reading the server propitys file properley
#1845 [17:30] <Edinator101> anybody?
#1846 [17:30] <private_meta> Edinator101: how does it show?
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#1848 [17:31] <Edinator101> basickley if i wana go into creative mode it will not read it, therefore there is still enemys and i still need to eat
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#1850 [17:32] <private_meta> Edinator101: so you set to creative and restarted the server?
#1851 [17:32] <gotlol> can someone help me with the fatal error 4
#1852 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> setting gamemode only takes effect upon first creation of the world
#1853 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> When you've already generated the world, you need to set the gamemode individually for each player that's different from the default
#1854 [17:33] <private_meta> Edinator101: as an op you can set yourself to creative mode ingame
#1855 [17:33] <Edinator101> do i need to restart the server apluication or the hoal computer?
#1856 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Use /gamemode playername 0/1
#1857 [17:33] <Edinator101> but i need to do it for me and my brother
#1858 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, you'll need to use /gamemode to set the gamemode for each player
#1859 [17:34] <Edinator101> ah i c i will just try this :P
#1860 [17:36] <private_meta> someone can't connect to my server, is there any way to troubleshoot the issue? There was some kind of connect url, can he try that, and if yes, what is it?
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#1863 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> private_meta - Classic or beta?
#1864 [17:37] <private_meta> beta
#1865 [17:37] <gotlol> im having problem with the fatal error 4
#1866 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> private_meta - What IP are you giving him?
#1867 [17:37] <Edinator101> yay thx, it worked, i have onley had my server for a couple of days si iz nub thank you very much :)
#1868 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> gotlol - What is the full error?
#1869 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Edinator101 - Glad we could help
#1870 [17:37] <gotlol> fatal error 4: null
#1871 [17:37] <private_meta> I'm giving him a dyndns address and the server is only accessible from a certain ip range, which he is in
#1872 [17:38] <Edinator101> thank you very very much :)
#1873 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> gotlol - We see that error frequently because of an AV or security software that's blocking java
#1874 [17:38] <gotlol> so what i do?
#1875 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> gotlol - Try disabling it entirely to test?
#1876 [17:38] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: for some time, it said Disconnecting /193.170.133.222:49859: Took too long to log in
#1877 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, see if you can configure it to allow traffic from java/minecraft
#1878 [17:38] <gotlol> disabling what the java?
#1879 [17:39] <private_meta> ah dammit, wasn't meant to post the ip here
#1880 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> gotlol - Disabling your security software
#1881 [17:39] <gotlol> ok im gona try one sec
#1882 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> private_meta - Is that only affecting him?
#1883 [17:39] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: no idea, noone else knows teh address yet
#1884 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> private_meta - Mind if I try and connect?
#1885 [17:39] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: well, your ip range isn't allowed
#1886 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Ah..
#1887 [17:40] <gotlol> no i disabld and its not going
#1888 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> gotlol - What security software do you run?
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#1890 [17:40] <gotlol> i run avira antivir
#1891 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> gotlol - 11?
#1892 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> We had somebody earlier with the same exact problem, also running avira.
#1893 [17:41] <gotlol> yes
#1894 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Said updating to avira 12 solved it
#1895 [17:41] <gotlol> ok i will put to update
#1896 [17:42] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: I'll let someone else within the ip range test it
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#1898 [17:43] <gotlol> nothing continue not going
#1899 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> gotlol - How about uninstalling avira 11, and reinstalling avira 12?
#1900 [17:43] <gotlol> im going to try
#1901 [17:44] <private_meta> ok, someone else was able to connect
#1902 [17:44] <gotlol> nothing agin-_-
#1903 [17:45] <private_meta> by the way, can it be that the spawn point for different people is on different places?
#1904 [17:45] <private_meta> *in
#1905 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> private_meta - No, there's only one spawn point
#1906 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> gotlol - What exactly are you doing?
#1907 [17:45] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: then why did a colleague of mine who COULD connect spawn somewhere else than me?
#1908 [17:45] <gotlol> i have instaled avira 12 and unistaled the avira 11
#1909 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> private_meta - There's only one default spawn point. When you relogin, it puts you back where you left the server at
#1910 [17:46] <private_meta> GreyVulpine:
#1911 [17:46] <private_meta> erm
#1912 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> gotlol - Could you uninstall avira, then try minecraft?
#1913 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> (also, you're not running any other security software, other than avira, right?)
#1914 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> private_meta - Hmm?
#1915 [17:47] <gotlol> no no thx for all but il try something
#1916 [17:47] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: When I first logged onto the server, I spawned at -16.5, 61.62000000476837, 698.5, my colleague at (-16.5, 68.62000000476837, -19.5)
#1917 [17:47] <gotlol> thx vulpine
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#1919 [17:48] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: I had that behavior multiple times now
#1920 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> private_meta - I can tell you, in vanilla MC, there is only one default spawn point
#1921 [17:48] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: I'm running Vanilla MC
#1922 [17:49] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: And, this time, as well as when I tried it on this computer last time
#1923 [17:49] <private_meta> there were different spawn points for 2 different people
#1924 [17:49] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: a third guy just logged on, with a different spawn point again
#1925 [17:49] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: or is there a difference between the initial point you start and the spawn point?
#1926 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> they're both the same point
#1927 [17:50] <private_meta> so why are they not for me?
#1928 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> In MP, there's a 20x20 block where people spawn
#1929 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> It shouldn't differ by hundreds.
#1930 [17:52] <private_meta> sec
#1931 [17:53] <private_meta> (-16.5, 61.62000000476837, 698.5)
#1932 [17:53] <private_meta> (-16.5, 68.62000000476837, -19.5)
#1933 [17:53] <private_meta> (-13.5, 68.62000000476837, -34.5)
#1934 [17:53] <private_meta> (-16.5, 68.62000000476837, -16.5)
#1935 [17:53] <private_meta> ok, how many of the 4 lines wer lost?
#1936 [17:55] <private_meta> *were
#1937 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> The last 3 look right
#1938 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> The first one, isn't a spawn point
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#1940 [17:56] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: Well, it's where I spawned
#1941 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Mind /kill-ing yourself and seeing where you spawn?
#1942 [17:58] <private_meta> GreyVulpine: not then
#1943 [17:58] <private_meta> the spawn point was suboptimal anyway
#1944 [17:58] <private_meta> reset the server
#1945 [17:58] <private_meta> funny that I restarted the server with a differnet world
#1946 [17:58] <private_meta> *different
#1947 [17:58] <private_meta> spawn point was in the middle of the water in an ocean biome
#1948 [17:59] <private_meta> now i spawned and fell 20 blocks... WTF?
#1949 [17:59] <private_meta> now i spawned and fell 20 blocks... WTF?
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#1952 [18:06] <urmom> hello i nede some help
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#1954 [18:07] <urmom> when i click play in browser on minecraft the screen turns white and says bad video card drivers
#1955 [18:08] <urmom> hello?
#1956 [18:09] <urmom> hello?
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#1959 [18:15] <sprocket> when i try to play minecraft the screen goes white and says bad video card drivers
#1960 [18:16] <|Kiikun|School|> sprocket: update your video drivers.
#1961 [18:16] <sprocket> idk how
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#1963 [18:17] <haha> does anyone nknow how i can update my video driver? i bought mnecraft but i cant play becaus of that ;.;
#1964 [18:18] <Ketsueki> sprocket: what OS?
#1965 [18:18] <|Kiikun|School|> are you both on windows?
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#1967 [18:18] <haha> windows xp
#1968 [18:18] <Ketsueki> ... haha same
#1969 [18:18] <Ketsueki> ?? win/dxdiag
#1970 [18:18] <sprocket> yea windows xp
#1971 [18:18] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1972 [18:18] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1973 [18:19] <Ketsueki> Someone should be able to help you after you post your dxdiag results.
#1974 [18:20] <sprocket> what
#1975 [18:21] <|Kiikun|School|> sprocket: do what VoxelHead said
#1976 [18:21] * |Kiikun|School| is in class so WONT be driver-hunting.. but can tell where to look
#1976 [18:21] <haha> and that helps the whole video rider thing ;O
#1977 [18:21] <haha> ?
#1978 [18:22] <|Kiikun|School|> it helps us tell what your video card is so we can tell you where the drivers are
#1979 [18:22] <haha> ok i sav it to desktop, reopened, copied...
#1980 [18:23] <|Kiikun|School|> and now you put it on pastebin then give us the link
#1981 [18:23] <haha> http://pastebin.com/Ch351xRU
#1982 [18:23] <sprocket> ?
#1983 [18:23] <haha> ok
#1984 [18:23] <|Kiikun|School|> ??> haha gpu/intel
#1985 [18:23] <VoxelHead> haha: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1986 [18:24] <|Kiikun|School|> haha: yours is an intl 945GM.
#1987 [18:24] <haha> ooh
#1988 [18:24] <haha> so
#1989 [18:24] <haha> on that web like.. what do i do? ive been there befoe but i didnt know where to go x.x
#1990 [18:25] <sprocket> im confused
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#1992 [18:26] <haha> i dont know what to do on intel.com
#1993 [18:26] <|Kiikun|School|> haha: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16835&ProdId=2301&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20Home%20Edition*&DownloadType=Drivers
#1994 [18:26] <|Kiikun|School|> there.
#1995 [18:27] <sprocket> ............
#1996 [18:27] <username> hi
#1997 [18:27] <zizg> hi
#1998 [18:27] <sprocket> hello?
#1999 [18:27] <|Kiikun|School|> sprocket: you can ... all you want. we cant do anything until you give us the link
#2000 [18:28] <sprocket> what link
#2001 [18:28] <|Kiikun|School|> ??> sprocket win/dxdiag
#2002 [18:28] <VoxelHead> sprocket: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2003 [18:28] <VoxelHead> sprocket: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2004 [18:28] * |Kiikun|School| is actually doing class stuff now so isnt helping anymore
#2004 [18:29] <haha> thank you guys so much ;.;
#2005 [18:29] <haha> ilu all
#2006 [18:31] <sprocket> can a video card driver on a laptop be updated?
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#2008 [18:33] <FluR0> sprocket: We need you to do what VoxelHead told you to do.
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#2011 [18:34] <sprocket> i dont understand it im sorry but it doesnt make sense 2 me it says press win + R key and i just dont get it
#2012 [18:34] <armytrev> hello who do I speak to about down loading the game.
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#2014 [18:35] <mib_07i8dh> I need help
#2015 [18:35] <mib_07i8dh> the game wont let me get wood
#2016 [18:36] <mib_07i8dh> anyone??
#2017 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> Are you holding down left click?
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#2019 [18:39] <yoshi> hello i need help
#2020 [18:39] <yoshi> please
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#2023 [18:41] <yoshi> when i click on play in browser the screen says i have bad video card drivers
#2024 [18:43] <yoshi> hello?
#2025 [18:45] <yoshi> please help me
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#2028 [18:55] <frogonia> I haven't play the classic minecraft in a while but I recently tried and now im getting error
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#2031 [19:01] <notcam45> Hello?
#2032 [19:02] <notcam45> Can I be assisted
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#2034 [19:02] <iPixeli|Away> sure depends if i can answer it tho
#2035 [19:02] <notcam45> Its about minestatus
#2036 [19:02] <Lmh> Can i get some help?
#2037 [19:02] <iPixeli|Away> whats that
#2038 [19:02] <notcam45> lol nevermind
#2039 [19:02] <iPixeli|Away> =p
#2040 [19:02] <iPixeli|Away> ?minestatus
#2041 [19:03] <iPixeli|Away> notcam45 tell me anyway im curious
#2042 [19:03] <Lmh> Can i get some help?
#2043 [19:04] <iPixeli|Away> sure with what
#2044 [19:04] <Lmh> Well, my minecraft crashes upon log in, Last time this happened, it was my drivers, I think its that buy i dont know how to update them
#2045 [19:05] <Lmh> but*
#2046 [19:05] <iPixeli|Away> do you have any mods installed?
#2047 [19:07] <iPixeli|Away> lmh
#2048 [19:08] <Lmh> No
#2049 [19:09] <Lmh> I got a clean .minecraft but it still crashes
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#2052 [19:14] <Lmh> ?
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#2055 [19:26] <Edinator101> hello al me again, i gto it to go to peacefull but mobs (ie creapers) are still spawning, the server propitys option is set to false and they are stll spawning...
#2056 [19:27] <Edinator101> hello?
#2057 [19:29] <iPixeli|Away> are you using vanilla minecraft
#2058 [19:29] <iPixeli|Away> or bukkit
#2059 [19:30] <Edinator101> vanila
#2060 [19:30] <iPixeli|Away> restart the server
#2061 [19:30] <iPixeli|Away> type stop
#2062 [19:30] <iPixeli|Away> then run the server again
#2063 [19:30] <Lmh> Pixeil?
#2064 [19:30] <Edinator101> into the server box or through the game
#2065 [19:31] <iPixeli|Away> lmh yes?
#2066 [19:31] <Edinator101> ?
#2067 [19:31] <iPixeli|Away> edinator101 the little box
#2068 [19:31] <iPixeli|Away> not in game
#2069 [19:31] <Lmh> Did you find a solution? to my problem?
#2070 [19:31] <iPixeli|Away> read ^ i forget
#2071 [19:31] <iPixeli|Away> x:
#2072 [19:31] <Lmh> ?
#2073 [19:32] <Lmh> Well, my minecraft crashes upon log in, Last time this happened, it was my drivers, I think its that buy i dont know how to update them
#2074 [19:32] <Edinator101> ok i have ptyed in stop now what?
#2075 [19:32] <iPixeli|Away> so your not using any mods?
#2076 [19:32] <Edinator101> typed*
#2077 [19:32] <Lmh> Last time, they gave me a link to update my drivers.
#2078 [19:33] <Lmh> I think thats what i need, And no, no mods
#2079 [19:33] <iPixeli|Away> edinator101 okay close the window and re run the server
#2080 [19:33] <Edinator101> ok
#2081 [19:33] <iPixeli|Away> lmh what os
#2082 [19:33] <iPixeli|Away> edinator101 once you join again you should see that there are no mobs
#2083 [19:33] <Lmh> Windows7
#2084 [19:34] <iPixeli|Away> lmh okay drivers on windows 7: start > devices and printers
#2085 [19:34] <Lmh> Ok
#2086 [19:34] <iPixeli|Away> perhaps not the best approach 1sec
#2087 [19:34] <Edinator101> will the mobs be able to b put back if i change it back to true?
#2088 [19:34] <iPixeli|Away> in the top address bar of your window lmh type Control Panel\All Control Panel Items
#2089 [19:34] <Edinator101> omg thankyou soooo much :)
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#2091 [19:35] <iPixeli|Away> click device maanger
#2092 [19:35] <iPixeli|Away> edinator101 no problem
#2093 [19:35] <iPixeli|Away> ?mlmp
#2094 [19:36] <Edinator101> if i change it back to trough it will start spawning again yes?
#2095 [19:36] <Lmh> Ok
#2096 [19:36] <iPixeli|Away> yes
#2097 [19:36] <iPixeli|Away> as long as you restart
#2098 [19:36] <Edinator101> yay thx :P
#2099 [19:36] <private_meta> so, can someone tell me why the server spawn point changed after a simple server restart?
#2100 [19:36] <iPixeli|Away> lmh do you got it from here?
#2101 [19:36] <sporkysdc> hello i need some help im not sure if you can help me out. im not sure if you guys can help me
#2102 [19:36] <sporkysdc> you see i was trying to install a mod and im wondering if you can help me out
#2103 [19:36] <iPixeli|Away> sporkysdc be patient. you waited 7 seconds
#2104 [19:37] <Lmh> Not really, can you still help?
#2105 [19:37] <Edinator101> should i allways restart it by tiping stop? and not just closing the windo?
#2106 [19:37] <iPixeli|Away> lmh now you click on the device you want to check
#2107 [19:37] <iPixeli|Away> edinator101 its a good idea
#2108 [19:37] <sporkysdc> ok
#2109 [19:37] <Lmh> This is how to update drivers?
#2110 [19:38] <iPixeli|Away> lmh right click > properties then > drivertab
#2111 [19:38] <iPixeli|Away> so yes
#2112 [19:38] <Edinator101> ok cool thx v much for your healp :)
#2113 [19:38] <iPixeli|Away> mhm =3
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#2115 [19:39] <Lmh> Where do i right click at, properties doesnt show drivertab
#2116 [19:40] <iPixeli|Away> it does o.o
#2117 [19:40] <Person5323> My server keeps saying "[WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?" but it is not overloaded
#2118 [19:41] <Person5323> Can someone help?
#2119 [19:41] <iPixeli|Away> select the device you want then right click properties
#2120 [19:41] <iPixeli|Away> person5323 thats normal when your hosting from home
#2121 [19:41] <iPixeli|Away> you can pretty much ignore it
#2122 [19:41] <Person5323> ok lol thanks!
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#2126 [19:43] <Lmh> ok
#2127 [19:44] <Lmh> how do i know what drivers i need to update?
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#2130 [19:44] <iPixeli|Away> lmh didnt you say this has happened before?
#2131 [19:45] <Thrae> ??> Lmh win/dxdiag
#2132 [19:45] <VoxelHead> Lmh: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2133 [19:45] <VoxelHead> Lmh: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2134 [19:45] <iPixeli|Away> ^ this
#2135 [19:45] <Thrae> Lmh: Follow these instructions and we'll tell you where to update your drivers and if they need to be updated.
#2136 [19:46] <Lmh> You were the one that helped me before Thrae
#2137 [19:46] <iPixeli|Away> =]
#2138 [19:46] <sporkysdc> um can some one help me?
#2139 [19:47] <Thrae> Lmh: We'll need your dxdiag again if I asked it before.
#2140 [19:47] <private_meta> ok, if noone can tell me why spawn points randomly change when restarting a server, maybe someone can tell me how to manually set a fixed spawn point?
#2141 [19:47] <Thrae> sporkysdc: What's the problem?
#2142 [19:47] <iPixeli|Away> private_meta
#2143 [19:47] <iPixeli|Away> google mcedit
#2144 [19:47] <iPixeli|Away> you can reset a spawn point using it
#2145 [19:47] <sporkysdc> i dont know if you guys can help out the problem of mods but its not the installing of the mod thats the problem
#2146 [19:47] <Thrae> ?? mods
#2147 [19:47] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2148 [19:47] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#2150 [19:48] <Lmh> http://pastebin.com/x9v5mtpU
#2151 [19:48] <sporkysdc> no its not mod mods i did something stupid before that and im having trouble logging back into minecraft
#2152 [19:49] <private_meta> iPixeli|Away: do you know if that thing works with multiplayer server saves?
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#2154 [19:49] <blaphmat> Hello?
#2155 [19:49] <iPixeli|Away> private_meta yes it does.
#2156 [19:49] <sporkysdc> thrae if you could please help me im not needing search of help of mods im having trouble with something else
#2157 [19:49] <Skipper2100> Hi?
#2158 [19:49] <iPixeli|Away> when you run it, you will see two different types of spawn moves
#2159 [19:49] <iPixeli|Away> world spawn
#2160 [19:50] <sporkysdc> still involving minecraft
#2161 [19:50] <Thrae> sporkysdc: Use Force Update to overwrite the minecraft.jar with a new one.
#2162 [19:50] <iPixeli|Away> and player position which im not sure if it counts
#2163 [19:50] <private_meta> iPixeli|Away: k, I#ll try it
#2164 [19:50] <iPixeli|Away> blaphmat hello. need something?
#2165 [19:50] <Thrae> ??> Lmh win/intel/gpu
#2166 [19:50] <Skipper2100> Does anyone have any more info on the Fatal Error 4 thing, help pages don
#2167 [19:50] <Skipper2100> t help
#2168 [19:50] <private_meta> iPixeli|Away: need to copy over the saves from the server first tho
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#2170 [19:51] <lmh> Sorry
#2171 [19:51] <sporkysdc> how would i do that cause my friend at the time was helping me out and told me to delete minecraft.jar and hope that you can get a new one and i tried he is helping me get it back to normal
#2172 [19:51] <lmh> Back now
#2173 [19:51] <Thrae> Skipper2100: Fatal Error (4) is usually caused by Anti-Virus, Firewalls, other Security Software blocking Java on Windows.
#2174 [19:51] <iPixeli|Away> private_meta i would back up your save, yes. but you can edit it from where it is on your computer already
#2175 [19:51] <Thrae> ??> Lmh win/gpu/intel
#2176 [19:51] <private_meta> iPixeli|Away: it's on a remote server
#2177 [19:51] <VoxelHead> Lmh: (win/gpu/intel) Some of the newer Intel graphics chipsets on Windows need Java to be limited to 800MB to avoid OpenGL errors. Try using this tool to launch Minecraft:
#2178 [19:51] <VoxelHead> Lmh: (win/gpu/intel) http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Intel-MC.bat
#2179 [19:51] <Skipper2100> Hmm... Would Norton block it? It says its safe
#2180 [19:51] <blaphmat> Umm... well am having a problem running my minecraft. I can log in but can't get to the Mojang screen. It just stays black. Also, it won't work online. Java.com says java is working, but only minecraft doesn't work. Any help??
#2181 [19:52] <Thrae> Skipper2100: Yep, we've had trouble with Norton/Symantec before
#2182 [19:52] <iPixeli|Away> private_meta oh. um. I don't know of another way
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#2184 [19:52] <iPixeli|Away> you could just make a path... perhaps.
#2185 [19:52] <Thrae> blaphmat: Using Windows, or Mac or Linux?
#2186 [19:52] <Skipper2100> Any way to override?
#2187 [19:52] <blaphmat> Windows
#2188 [19:52] <private_meta> iPixeli|Away: well, it's ok, i can copy it over... i could run the linux version with x window forwarding remotely, but I don't quite like to
#2189 [19:52] <Thrae> Skipper2100: Just disable it temporarily and try again.
#2190 [19:52] <blaphmat> Xp
#2191 [19:52] <Skipper2100> Ahh, okay. Lemme try that.
#2192 [19:52] <blaphmat> OK
#2193 [19:52] <iPixeli|Away> private_meta oh okay=p
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#2197 [19:52] <Thrae> blaphmat: Any mods or texture packs or HD patchers used?
#2198 [19:53] <lmh> It says minecraft has crashed.
#2199 [19:53] <dannyz> hi guys can anyone help me ive tried fixing my minecraft but it continues ot give me bad video card driver error.. ive tried updating my drivers and ive looked at plenty of youtube videos but im comming up short on how to fix it
#2200 [19:53] <iPixeli|Away> (@smart ppl does nortan usually yell at mc like that?)
#2201 [19:53] <lmh> Im using a clean jar
#2202 [19:53] <Thrae> ??> dannyz win/dxdiag
#2203 [19:53] <VoxelHead> dannyz: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2204 [19:53] <iPixeli|Away> ??error
#2205 [19:53] <VoxelHead> dannyz: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2206 [19:53] <iPixeli|Away> ?error
#2207 [19:53] <Thrae> ??> lmh win/gpu/intel
#2208 [19:53] <VoxelHead> lmh: (win/gpu/intel) Some of the newer Intel graphics chipsets on Windows need Java to be limited to 800MB to avoid OpenGL errors. Try using this tool to launch Minecraft:
#2209 [19:53] * iPixeli|Away used to crow
#2209 [19:53] <VoxelHead> lmh: (win/gpu/intel) http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Intel-MC.bat
#2210 [19:54] <sporkysdc> where or how would i find or use force update, cause at this i have no idea what your talking about???
#2211 [19:54] <Thrae> lmh: ^^^^^^^^^^^
#2212 [19:54] <Skipper2100> Ah, okay. This is a really nooby question. Does anyone know HOW to disable Norton?
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#2214 [19:54] <iPixeli|Away> skipper i dont think it should be hateing on mc
#2215 [19:54] <iPixeli|Away> but
#2216 [19:54] <Skipper2100> It does
#2217 [19:54] <lmh> Even with that it crashes
#2218 [19:54] <iPixeli|Away> you can add an exclusion to mc
#2219 [19:54] <Thrae> sporkysdc: Options button on the Minecraft Launcher.
#2220 [19:54] <iPixeli|Away> yes there should be a way to add an exclusion.
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#2222 [19:54] <umbridge> Hello! Does anyone know if the griefcraft client is keylogged?
#2223 [19:54] <Skipper2100> Ah... Okay
#2224 [19:54] <Skipper2100> Trying that
#2225 [19:54] <sporkysdc> ok i'll try that
#2226 [19:55] <Thrae> Skipper2100: https://www-secure.symantec.com/norton-support/jsp/help-solutions.jsp?lg=english&ct=united+states&docid=20080506155633EN&product=home&version=1&pvid=f-home
#2227 [19:55] <Puddles> Wow, it actually fixed it, thank you so much.
#2228 [19:55] <Puddles> Wow, it actually fixed it, thank you so much.
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#2230 [19:55] <umbridge> Does anyone know if the GriefCraft client is keylogged?
#2231 [19:56] <umbridge> I need to use something like that to build in a server (fly mod)
#2232 [19:56] <Skipper2100> Yes! Thank you. It totally worked. Win.
#2233 [19:56] <Thrae> lmh: What's the error report it gives when it crashes? Post it to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#2234 [19:56] <Skipper2100> Alright see you all.
#2235 [19:56] <lmh> Ok, 1 min
#2236 [19:56] <iPixeli|Away> i dont know if anyone will comment on that umbridge. the best client to trust is minecraft itself.
#2237 [19:57] <private_meta> iPixeli|Away: hmm... would be nice to know where the world spawn is and how it looks and how to move it >_>
#2238 [19:57] <umbridge> Well I need some kind of fly mod
#2239 [19:57] <iPixeli|Away> if you have the world open, right most icon on the bottom of screen
#2240 [19:57] <iPixeli|Away> it looks like a spawner
#2241 [19:57] <umbridge> Zombie Mod perhaps?
#2242 [19:57] <iPixeli|Away> yeah zombie is the most popular i think
#2243 [19:57] <private_meta> iPixeli|Away: ah, the second from the right, move spawn point
#2244 [19:58] <sporkysdc> um it really doesnt give me the option to do a force update now what or could you explain some way i could get to it
#2245 [19:58] <dannyz> http://pastebin.com/PPh3wg4x
#2246 [19:58] <iPixeli|Away> private_meta sounds right
#2247 [19:58] <umbridge> iPixeli|Away Will it work on multiplayer?
#2248 [19:58] <iPixeli|Away> umibridge as long as you select spawn and not the name of your player yes
#2249 [19:58] <iPixeli|Away> (i'd move yourself if you dont wanna walk though)
#2250 [19:59] <umbridge> iPixeli|Away What do you mean?
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#2252 [19:59] <Skipper2100> Sorry, scratch what I said earlier. It still nulls me.
#2253 [19:59] <dannyz> could anyone help me with my error? http://pastebin.com/PPh3wg4x
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#2255 [19:59] <dannyz> ive already attempted updating drivers using different launchers and such and to no success
#2256 [19:59] <umbridge> iPixeli|Away What do you mean?
#2257 [20:00] <Thrae> dannyz: Download and install this graphics driver update -- http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-32.aspx
#2258 [20:00] <lmh> http://pastebin.com/Ng4gEThw
#2259 [20:00] <iPixeli|Away> umbridge that was to private_meta
#2260 [20:00] <Skipper2100> Lo?
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#2262 [20:00] <iPixeli|Away> private_meta one of these should have it. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+move+spawn+point+using+mcedit&aq=f
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#2264 [20:00] <Thrae> lmh: Were you using that batch file to launch Minecraft?
#2265 [20:01] <bugweiser> hey how can I install a new minecraft.jar ?
#2266 [20:01] <private_meta> iPixeli|Away: k, should've worked, I'll test it
#2267 [20:01] <lmh> Yea, the MC.bat
#2268 [20:01] <Skipper2100> It still nulls me... Anyone help?
#2269 [20:01] <iPixeli|Away> be sure to save =p
#2270 [20:01] <iPixeli|Away> ctrl s
#2271 [20:01] <Thrae> bugweiser: Depends if you're on Windows, Mac, or Linux
#2272 [20:01] <private_meta> iPixeli|Away: did so
#2273 [20:01] <bugweiser> windows
#2274 [20:01] <Thrae> lmh: Try following this tutorial -- http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#2275 [20:01] <Skipper2100> ...
#2276 [20:01] <Thrae> bugweiser: Are you trying to update to 1.9-pre?
#2277 [20:01] <bugweiser> no
#2278 [20:02] <dannyz> Thrae same error as before mate
#2279 [20:02] <bugweiser> just play on 1.8.1
#2280 [20:02] * iPixeli|Away walks away slowly and starts modding again
#2280 [20:02] <Thrae> bugweiser: Well then the Minecraft.exe launcher will auto-update after you login.
#2281 [20:02] <sporkysdc> thrae could you explain it better to me how i can get to this force update thing
#2282 [20:02] <bugweiser> ok but what if i login and its frozen
#2283 [20:02] <Thrae> dannyz: Yeah then your drivers aren't updating properly, one sec....
#2284 [20:02] <bugweiser> its not loading
#2285 [20:02] <Thrae> sporkysdc: When you open up the Minecraft Launcher to run Minecraft you'll have one button called "Options".
#2286 [20:03] <bugweiser> it just stays on the updating screen
#2287 [20:03] <Skipper2100> Thrae it still nulls me...
#2288 [20:03] <dannyz> Thrae no problem take ur time :P
#2289 [20:03] <sporkysdc> whoops ok sorry um i'll get on that
#2290 [20:04] <Skipper2100> Thrae I tried disabling the Norton Anti-Virus thing, yet still it nulls me. It seemed to work when I tried before.
#2291 [20:04] <Thrae> dannyz: Use Driver Sweeper in Safe Mode to uninstall all your ATI drivers, then install the drivers from ATI's website I linked before -- http://phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html , instructions for Safe Mode -- http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm
#2292 [20:04] <private_meta> iPixeli|Away: thanks, seemed to have worked
#2293 [20:04] <iPixeli|Away> k
#2294 [20:04] <iPixeli|Away> private_meta now to test it p=
#2295 [20:05] <private_meta> iPixeli|Away: did already
#2296 [20:05] <Thrae> Skipper2100: Maybe Norton re-enabled itself. If you want to be sure, go into Diagnostic Startup through MSCONFIG -- http://www.ghacks.net/2011/05/04/the-benefits-of-windows-diagnostic-startup-mode/
#2297 [20:05] <iPixeli|Away> >] good then.
#2298 [20:05] <bugweiser> is the problem caused by a failed driver?
#2299 [20:05] <bugweiser> should i reinstall java ect too
#2300 [20:05] <private_meta> iPixeli|Away: if I wouldn't have tested it I wouldn't have said that it worked ;)
#2301 [20:06] <Thrae> bugweiser: Not unless it's a Network Chipset driver. Try cleaning out Minecraft...one sec VoxelHead will link you
#2302 [20:06] <iPixeli|Away> ah _._,,
#2303 [20:06] <Thrae> ??> bugweiser win/reinst
#2304 [20:06] <VoxelHead> bugweiser: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2305 [20:06] <VoxelHead> bugweiser: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2306 [20:06] <bugweiser> ok
#2307 [20:06] <bugweiser> thanks :D
#2308 [20:06] <Skipper2100> Thrae: I'm confused...
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#2310 [20:07] <lmh> Where do i put the zipped files, in minecraft.jar?
#2311 [20:07] <Thrae> Skipper2100: You open up MSCONFIG, select Diagnostic Startup, and reboot. This will make sure no other background programs startup (including Norton) which are blocking Java.
#2312 [20:07] <Thrae> Skipper2100: Follow the instructions in the link I gave you.
#2313 [20:08] <Skipper2100> Thrae: Okay, I'll try it
#2314 [20:08] <Thrae> lmh: No. Follow the instructions on the wiki.
#2315 [20:08] <Thrae> lmh: The wiki very clearly says where to put the files.
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#2317 [20:08] <sporkysdc> i tried force update and it didnt work at all
#2318 [20:09] <Thrae> sporkysdc: After you click on "Force Update" you need to login, then it'll update.
#2319 [20:09] <iPixeli|Away> =p
#2320 [20:11] <sporkysdc> its all set i got it now i just got to make sure everything works thanks bug
#2321 [20:11] <sporkysdc> and thrae, voxelhead too
#2322 [20:15] <sporkysdc> thanks you guys your a life saver
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#2324 [20:16] * Thrae nods to sporkysdc
#2324 [20:20] <lmh> Ok, I still crash
#2325 [20:21] <iPixeli|Busy> what version of java do you have
#2326 [20:21] <lmh> All the files that were in the folder, that were also in .minecraft, i replaced with the ones in the folder
#2327 [20:22] <lmh> The latest version, i tried all the obvious stuff
#2328 [20:22] <Thrae> lmh: Uninstall your current graphics driver and install this version -- http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19939/a08/Win7Vista_64_151716.exe&lang=eng&Dwnldid=19939&DownloadType=Drivers&OSFullname=Windows+7%2c+64-bit*
#2329 [20:22] <Thrae> lmh: Whoops, http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19939/a08/Win7Vista_64_151716.exe&lang=eng
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#2331 [20:23] <Thrae> lmh: http://www.zdnetasia.com/uninstalling-and-disabling-drivers-in-device-manager-62039851.htm (same steps in 7)
#2332 [20:25] <lmh> The right link says the download is moved
#2333 [20:26] <Thrae> lmh: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19939/a08/Win7Vista_64_151716.exe
#2334 [20:26] <lmh> and, the graphics driver is under?
#2335 [20:26] <lmh> (Sorry for taking your time, your being a huge help)
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#2337 [20:29] <Thrae> lmh: This is the graphics driver -- http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19939/a08/Win7Vista_64_151716.exe
#2338 [20:30] <lmh> No, i mean what catergory is the graphics driver under?
#2339 [20:30] <Thrae> lmh: In Device Manager?
#2340 [20:31] <Thrae> lmh: In Device Manager it's under Display Adapters.
#2341 [20:31] <lmh> The Intel(r) G41 express chipset?
#2342 [20:32] <Thrae> Yes
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#2345 [20:38] <lmh> Ok, now my computer looks as if it has zoomed in quite far, is this normal?
#2346 [20:39] <Thrae> lmh: You just uninstalled your video card drivers, so it defaulted back to a low resolution until you install the new ones.
#2347 [20:39] <lmh> Ok, can you post the link again?
#2348 [20:39] <Thrae> http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19939/a08/Win7Vista_64_151716.exe
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#2353 [20:45] <lmh> Ok, i went through the installation window and restarted comp, but the driver still doesn't appear on my device manager
#2354 [20:46] <lmh> All that appears is the old one my comp tried to install after the restart
#2355 [20:48] <lmh> ?
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#2357 [20:52] <lmh> Hello?
#2358 [20:54] <lmh> How do i get permission for voice? that would help.
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#2361 [20:55] <lmh9> Hello?
#2362 [20:55] <Thrae> ??> lmh9 win/dxdiag
#2363 [20:55] <VoxelHead> lmh9: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2364 [20:55] <VoxelHead> lmh9: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2365 [20:55] <lmh9> Well, right now i want to fix my grapics driver.
#2366 [20:56] <lmh9> I just restarted my comp and thrae was helping me through it
#2367 [20:57] <Thrae> lmh9: I want to see your DxDiag information so I can see if the driver was installed properly or not.
#2368 [20:57] <lmh9> Ok
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#2370 [20:58] <person> hello
#2371 [20:58] <person> I am trying to set up a server and I was hoping to get some help
#2372 [20:59] <lmh9> http://pastebin.com/bN3ynCis
#2373 [20:59] <person> I have Minecraft Server running on Windows 7 with hamachi
#2374 [21:00] <person> but i cannot connect to it
#2375 [21:01] <Thrae> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2376 [21:01] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2377 [21:01] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2378 [21:01] <Thrae> If it's on the same system make sure you're connecting to 127.0.0.1
#2379 [21:01] <Thrae> lmh9: Yeah right now NO display drivers are installed.
#2380 [21:01] <person> ok Voxel sorry
#2381 [21:02] <Thrae> lmh9: What happens when you run http://downloadmirror.intel.com/19939/a08/Win7Vista_64_151716.exe ?
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#2383 [21:02] <lmh9> It downloads a copy to chrome
#2384 [21:03] <Thrae> Yes, then you need to run it.
#2385 [21:03] <person> VoxelHead I do have a server with a static ip and proper forwarding but it is too slow to run Minecraft Server....Win2000 Server PIII 1ghz w/ 1.5gb ram lol tried running it but it was very slow
#2386 [21:04] <lmh9> I do, and i went through all of it, and restarted, and then came back here. nothing happened
#2387 [21:04] <Thrae> person: If it's the dynamic IP that's bothering you, use a service like http://dyndns.com , http://noip.com , etc.
#2388 [21:04] <lmh9> Leme try again, thanks for all the help.
#2389 [21:04] <Thrae> lmh9: One sec
#2390 [21:06] <person> ok Thrae I will look into that. the dynamic is not bothing me my issue is my computers are behind a firewall. I have 1 static ip that is ported to my win2000 server. Are you familiar with sonicwall?
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#2392 [21:07] <Lmh9> Ok, display settings are back to normal
#2393 [21:07] <Thrae> Lmh9: Try Minecraft
#2394 [21:08] <Lmh9> Yess!
#2395 [21:08] <Thrae> person: I'm familiar with its existence, and I could probably figure it out if I had access to the computer, especially if I used this: https://www.sonicwall.com/app/projects/file_downloader/document_lib.php?t=TN&id=223
#2396 [21:08] <Lmh9> Thank you for your time. I dont know how voice on this works but if i ever need help agin it would help a lot to have that.
#2397 [21:09] <Lmh9> Anyway, thank you.
#2398 [21:09] <Thrae> Lmh9: If it works don't update your graphics driver (Intel G41 Express / Intel Series 4 Graphics Chipset) in case it stops working with a newer driver.
#2399 [21:09] <person> Thrae well damn....that will make it pretty easy haha
#2400 [21:09] <person> thanks!
#2401 [21:09] <Lmh9> Ok.
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#2403 [21:14] <rhrulzz> can the bottom of the line macbook pro run minecraft without lag on far and fancy?
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#2408 [21:21] <naneely> my minecraft account is lagging. I've tried connecting with several different computers on several different networks...
#2409 [21:21] * mib_6me0sk [mib_6me0sk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2410 [21:22] <mib_6me0sk> hey can anyone here help?
#2411 [21:22] <naneely> I'm also looking for help :\
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#2414 [21:25] <CrusaderDeleters> alright, any one need help? :o
#2415 [21:25] <CrusaderDeleters> naneely, I'll take you.
#2416 [21:25] <CrusaderDeleters> so you have the problem of lagg?
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#2418 [21:27] <mr_fribble> hey im trying to use a VISA Gift Card with $23 on it that says it's usable for worldwide but it won't let me
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#2420 [21:28] <peru_> have you made any other internet purchase with this card before
#2421 [21:28] <CrusaderDeleters> does VISA work on paypal?
#2422 [21:28] <mr_fribble> No. I haven't and it's a VISA Gift Card
#2423 [21:29] <mr_fribble> I also tried using a VISA Debit Card but it said the transaction couldnt go through. That one I have made internet purchases before
#2424 [21:29] <ruel23> I can log into minecraft on the website, but not in the launcher, the launcher has been updated, nothing being blocked in my firewalls. is there any known reason for this. btw im running winxo
#2425 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> XP?
#2426 [21:30] <ruel23> winxp^
#2427 [21:30] <ruel23> yea
#2428 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> ruel: Explain what exactly happens
#2429 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> does it give a login error?
#2430 [21:30] <ruel23> i type in my username and password, and it says "cant login to minecraft"
#2431 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> hrm
#2432 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> try a new launcher
#2433 [21:31] <ruel23> i have the newest launcher on the website. unless there is a newer one, which would be awesome
#2434 [21:31] <CrusaderDeleters> lol. Try to get a new one.
#2435 [21:31] <mr_fribble> hmmmm
#2436 [21:31] <ruel23> umm, ok. any ideas where?
#2437 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> same location: Minecraft.net
#2438 [21:32] <mr_fribble> mb uninstall and then redownload?
#2439 [21:33] <ruel23> tried uninstalling everything and reinstalling it. i basically bought the game at 1.8 so im pretty new to all this
#2440 [21:34] <CrusaderDeleters> hrm
#2441 [21:34] <CrusaderDeleters> It's something between minecraft.net and the launcher
#2442 [21:34] <CrusaderDeleters> does it say anything else?
#2443 [21:35] <ruel23> sec
#2444 [21:36] <ruel23> the exact error ir "can't connect to minecraft.net" i was just reading the forums and they say to try an older launcher and im gonna give that a go
#2445 [21:37] <mr_fribble> ya im still stuck too
#2446 [21:37] <Thrae> ruel23: Don't try an old launcher. The newest launcher from http://www.minecraft.net/download is what you want.
#2447 [21:37] <DreadLindwyrm> !is down
#2448 [21:37] <DreadLindwyrm> !isdown
#2449 [21:37] <Thrae> mr_fribble: Use Paypal. You can use it without making an account.
#2450 [21:37] <GreyBot> DreadLindwyrm: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2451 [21:38] <DreadLindwyrm> That would explain not being able to connect to it :D
#2452 [21:38] <Thrae> ruel23: <GreyBot> DreadLindwyrm: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2453 [21:38] <ruel23> weird, my friend can login just fine. maybe its just being picky?
#2454 [21:38] <Thrae> !isdown
#2455 [21:38] <GreyBot> Thrae: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2456 [21:38] <Thrae> ruel23: It was pretty slow for me, so there could be flaky login issues
#2457 [21:38] <mr_fribble> Can I connect a visa gift card to paypal?
#2458 [21:38] <Thrae> !isdown session.minecraft.net
#2459 [21:38] <GreyBot> Thrae: It's not just you! http://session.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2460 [21:39] <Thrae> !isdown http://www.google.com
#2461 [21:39] <GreyBot> Thrae: It's just you. http://www.google.com is up.
#2462 [21:39] <CrusaderDeleters> mr_fribble: idk
#2463 [21:39] <Thrae> ruel23: It could also be that there are DNS problems...I can connect to www.minecraft.net but it takes a while.
#2464 [21:39] <CrusaderDeleters> I don't have a credit card
#2465 [21:39] <CrusaderDeleters> that's the problem with mc client, threa
#2466 [21:39] <Thrae> mr_fribble: You don't need to make a Paypal account to pay using a credit/debit card.
#2467 [21:40] <CrusaderDeleters> it just only checks for speed with only a split second
#2468 [21:40] <ruel23> i heard about the dns issues. maybe i will have to go that route
#2469 [21:40] <mr_fribble> I know but it keeps denying my two cards
#2470 [21:40] <Thrae> mr_fribble: Then you'll have to make an account.
#2471 [21:40] <mr_fribble> Using paypal? Ok......
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#2473 [21:41] <Thrae> mr_fribble: Yeah, or make a Moneybookers account and use that.
#2474 [21:41] <mr_fribble> I'll try it.
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#2476 [21:51] <mr_fribble> Well this sucks
#2477 [21:51] <mr_fribble> "Wrong merchant email address:
#2478 [21:54] <mr_fribble> Any ideas?
#2479 [21:54] <Thrae> If you're using Paypal try Moneybookers and visa-versa.
#2480 [21:54] <mr_fribble> I tried Moneybookers because it allows Visa Gift Cards.
#2481 [21:55] <mr_fribble> Said :Wrong merchant email address"
#2482 [21:55] <mr_fribble> PayPal won't work for gift cards
#2483 [21:55] <Thrae> Try a different browser like Internet Explorer -- on Google it seems like this problem is caused by cookie problems or JavaScript problems, like using "NoScript".
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#2485 [21:56] <Thrae> mr_fribble: You also may have to clear your Browser cache.
#2486 [21:58] <mr_fribble> I'm using IE
#2487 [21:58] <mr_fribble> I'll clear cache
#2488 [21:59] <mr_fribble> how do i clear cache
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#2491 [22:00] <chris713> i got an error message when trying to play in browser on firefox it says bad video card drivers!
#2492 [22:01] <Thrae> chris713: Classic or Beta?
#2493 [22:01] <Wug> chris713: minecraft tends to perform better if played with the downloadable launcher
#2494 [22:01] <Thrae> mr_fribble: https://kb.iu.edu/data/ahic.html
#2495 [22:02] <chris713> ok i think beta at the top, above the error message it says minecraft beta
#2496 [22:02] <chris713> so i should try downloadable instead ?
#2497 [22:03] <Wug> chris713: yeah
#2498 [22:03] <Wug> you'll probably have the same problem, come back if you do
#2499 [22:05] <mr_fribble> UGH! 3rd card denied
#2500 [22:05] <Wug> call the credit card company and make sure theyre not blocking the transaction, it happens a lot
#2501 [22:06] <mr_fribble> this is a different credit card
#2502 [22:07] <mr_fribble> im seriously pissed about this
#2503 [22:07] <Wug> call the credit card company and make sure theyre not blocking the transaction, it happens a lot
#2504 [22:07] <mr_fribble> buying a game shouldnt be this difficult
#2505 [22:10] <mr_fribble> and another card bites the dust
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#2507 [22:11] <mr_fribble> seriously
#2508 [22:12] <mr_fribble> its not being blocked
#2509 [22:14] <Wug> yes it is
#2510 [22:14] <Wug> I'm telling you, this happens all the time
#2511 [22:14] <mr_fribble> No I called.....it's not
#2512 [22:15] <Wug> then I dont know
#2513 [22:15] <Wug> if you're using one of those wallmart cards, those never work
#2514 [22:15] <mr_fribble> And there's no way 2 different companies are blocking it and a Vis Gift Card is too
#2515 [22:15] <Wug> for the same reason that you have to call to unblock it
#2516 [22:15] <Wug> because its international
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#2518 [22:16] <mr_fribble> I used MasterCard and Visa......I even used a Visa Gift Card that is for international purchases.
#2519 [22:17] <Wug> a visa gift card, like one of the ones you get at walmart and put $50 on it or something?
#2520 [22:17] <mr_fribble> Ya
#2521 [22:17] <Wug> because those never ever work
#2522 [22:17] <mr_fribble> I activated it online like it said.
#2523 [22:17] <Wug> because they cant be used for international transactions
#2524 [22:17] <Wug> use an actual credit card
#2525 [22:18] <mr_fribble> It said "Usabale for overseas transactions"
#2526 [22:18] <Wug> in all the time I've been here, I've never seen one of them go through from a prepaid card
#2527 [22:18] <mr_fribble> :/
#2528 [22:18] <Wug> send them hatemail, maybe they'll actually make it work
#2529 [22:18] <mr_fribble> The advice I was given was buy a prepaid card
#2530 [22:19] <mr_fribble> I'm not liek that
#2531 [22:19] <Wug> tell whoever gave you that advice that they are a doofus -.-
#2532 [22:19] <mr_fribble> Someone from here did
#2533 [22:19] <Wug> who
#2534 [22:19] <TheNoodle> So they can be banned.
#2535 [22:20] <TheNoodle> From the internet.
#2536 [22:20] <mr_fribble> I don't remember the name. It was last Wednesday
#2537 [22:20] <TheNoodle> Do you remember your name in irc at the time?
#2538 [22:20] <Wug> if they didnt have a star or a megaphone by their name, they werent an actual helper
#2539 [22:20] <mr_fribble> Nope
#2540 [22:20] <mr_fribble> I'm an idiot of course
#2541 [22:20] <TheNoodle> hmmm...
#2542 [22:20] <TheNoodle> !devoice
#2543 [22:20] <TheNoodle> :O
#2544 [22:21] <TheNoodle> Forgot you need +r for that :(
#2545 [22:21] <Wug> well, use the prepaid card somewhere else
#2546 [22:21] <mr_fribble> Like?
#2547 [22:21] <Wug> use a regular credit card for minecraft
#2548 [22:21] <Wug> idk, at a restaurant or something
#2549 [22:21] <mr_fribble> I have tried that. And it won't go through
#2550 [22:21] <Wug> call them
#2551 [22:21] <mr_fribble> I paid $30 for a $25 card
#2552 [22:22] <mr_fribble> LOL Wug I have
#2553 [22:22] <Wug> call them again and ask them why it isnt working
#2554 [22:22] <mr_fribble> And Minecraft forum support isnt helping
#2555 [22:22] <Wug> neither here nor the forum has any control over mojangs billing process
#2556 [22:22] <Wug> you're barking up the wrong tree
#2557 [22:22] <mr_fribble> I know.
#2558 [22:22] <Wug> if the problem is with payment, bug the credit card company
#2559 [22:23] <mr_fribble> They have no support phone number
#2560 [22:23] <Wug> because its their fault 99% of the time
#2561 [22:23] <mr_fribble> And I have no clue how to find an email to emil them about
#2562 [22:23] <Wug> mastercard has no support number?
#2563 [22:23] <mr_fribble> Minecraft doesnt
#2564 [22:23] <Wug> its a problem with the credit card
#2565 [22:23] <Wug> not on mojangs side
#2566 [22:23] <mr_fribble> alright I'll call again
#2567 [22:23] <Wug> be more persistent
#2568 [22:23] <mr_fribble> I appreciate the help and sorry for sounding like an idiot
#2569 [22:23] <Wug> dont worry about it
#2570 [22:24] <mr_fribble> I'll let yall know how it goes
#2571 [22:24] <TheNoodle> If you get stuck with them let us know, I love raging at people :3
#2572 [22:26] <mr_fribble> alright
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#2574 [22:27] <mr_fribble> I may experience extra wait time -_-
#2575 [22:27] <felinoel> I'm having a bit of trouble installing the Portal Gun mod on a Linux run bukkit server, all the instructions they have are for Windows or Mac, can anyone help me?
#2576 [22:27] <felinoel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLEY_IlL3Ok
#2577 [22:28] <felinoel> I tried following that but at 2:12 came a very Windows only step...
#2578 [22:28] <felinoel> v
#2579 [22:28] <Wug> felinoel: normally we dont help with mods
#2580 [22:29] <felinoel> I see...
#2581 [22:30] <Wug> you could ask in bukkit
#2582 [22:30] <Wug> #bukkit *
#2583 [22:30] <felinoel> k
#2584 [22:30] <Wug> but all its saying you do is launch it
#2585 [22:30] <felinoel> What?
#2586 [22:31] <Wug> just launch the server
#2587 [22:31] <Wug> if you already have a script to do that, just use it
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#2589 [22:31] <felinoel> I launch the server and I get a bad packet id 230 error
#2590 [22:33] <Wug> you probably messed up somewhere
#2591 [22:33] <Wug> ask in #bukkit
#2592 [22:33] <mr_fribble> They blame Majong -_-
#2593 [22:33] <felinoel> Majong? The board game?
#2594 [22:33] <mr_fribble> The company lol
#2595 [22:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Mojang.
#2596 [22:33] <felinoel> You mean Mojang?
#2597 [22:33] <mr_fribble> They blame minecraft overall
#2598 [22:33] <felinoel> I followed the instructions though...
#2599 [22:34] <mr_fribble> Ya lol my mistake
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#2601 [22:34] <CrusaderDeleters> felinoel: For help with mods, #mcp-modding and #risucraft should help you.
#2602 [22:35] <mr_fribble> What's the support email for Mojang?
#2603 [22:35] <felinoel> Oh, I am at bukkit now, will try those other two soon then
#2604 [22:35] <CrusaderDeleters> you shouldnt.
#2605 [22:35] <CrusaderDeleters> I heard that they have about 700 pages of emails
#2606 [22:35] <mr_fribble> That was the advice the company offered. He said they weren't blocking the transaction
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#2608 [22:35] <Wug> mr_fribble: then try again later
#2609 [22:36] <felinoel> Could I get those mod help places again?
#2610 [22:36] <CrusaderDeleters> #mcp-modding and #risucraft.
#2611 [22:36] <felinoel> Thanks
#2612 [22:36] <CrusaderDeleters> np
#2613 [22:36] <CrusaderDeleters> np
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#2615 [22:36] <mr_fribble> :(
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#2617 [22:38] <Thrae> Wug: Moneybookers has said you can use a prepaid card, but you NEED an account.
#2618 [22:38] <Thrae> But if Moneybookers is contradicting themselves I wouldn't be surprised.
#2619 [22:38] <Wug> ive never seen it work
#2620 [22:39] <mr_fribble> I signed up for moneybookers. I'll try it again and tell you what it sayd
#2621 [22:39] <Thrae> mr_fribble: This might help you -- http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090509055937AAjfbMY
#2622 [22:40] <Thrae> Seems you CAN use a prepaid with Paypal
#2623 [22:40] <Thrae> Just need an account and some extra steps
#2624 [22:41] <TheNoodle> Can someone tell CrusaderDeleters that #risucraft asked us not to tell people to go there? :P
#2625 [22:41] <Thrae> TheNoodle: WugBot memo?
#2626 [22:42] <felinoel> lol
#2627 [22:43] <Wug> ;memo send CrusaderDeleters #risucraft asked us not to tell people to go there
#2628 [22:43] <WugBot> I'll pass that on to CrusaderDeleters when next he's active.
#2629 [22:43] <mr_fribble> So paypal works?
#2630 [22:43] <TheNoodle> I was about to type that >.>
#2631 [22:44] <mr_fribble> :/
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#2633 [22:45] <iiizinciii> could some one help me plz
#2634 [22:46] <iiizinciii> hello?
#2635 [22:46] <Ryladine> iiizinciii: Details
#2636 [22:46] <Ryladine> No one can help you if they don't know whats wrong.
#2637 [22:47] <Ryladine> ??< index
#2638 [22:47] <iiizinciii> ok i have finaly got a minecraft 24/7 server runing and it keeps saying warning cant keep up
#2639 [22:47] <iiizinciii> what should i do
#2640 [22:47] <Ryladine> get more RAM
#2641 [22:47] <iiizinciii> i have 12 g
#2642 [22:47] <Ryladine> That basically means the server needs more power to run all of its processes
#2643 [22:48] <Thrae> iiizinciii: Are you using a batch file on Windows or a script on Linux to run this server?
#2644 [22:48] <iiizinciii> batch fire
#2645 [22:48] <iiizinciii> file
#2646 [22:48] <TheNoodle> :O
#2647 [22:48] <Ryladine> iiizinciii: show it to us?
#2648 [22:48] <TheNoodle> A batch fire?!?!?!
#2649 [22:48] <iiizinciii> umm
#2650 [22:48] <iiizinciii> ok
#2651 [22:48] <Ryladine> iiizinciii: Just paste the script you are using here.
#2652 [22:49] <iiizinciii> o its on a diferent comp
#2653 [22:49] <Ryladine> we can wait
#2654 [22:49] <iiizinciii> ok hold on
#2655 [22:49] * Ryladine has no life to speak of.
#2655 [22:49] <iiizinciii> wait do you want a screan shot?
#2656 [22:49] <Ryladine> no
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#2658 [22:49] <Ryladine> just the contents of the batch file
#2659 [22:50] <iiizinciii> what do you mean?
#2660 [22:50] <Ryladine> if its more than a couple of lines please use pastebin
#2661 [22:50] <Ryladine> ...
#2662 [22:50] <Ryladine> iiizinciii: Do you know what a batch file is?
#2663 [22:50] <iiizinciii> its
#2664 [22:50] <iiizinciii> i think so
#2665 [22:50] <iiizinciii> maby
#2666 [22:50] <Ryladine> iiizinciii: open it like you were going to edit it. And paste the contents here.
#2667 [22:51] <iiizinciii> im running the server on a windows xp fyi
#2668 [22:51] <Ryladine> mmm
#2669 [22:51] <Ryladine> best windows OS for MC servers really, if you are running it from home.
#2670 [22:51] <iiizinciii> ok
#2671 [22:51] <Ryladine> windows server takes a crapload of RAM to run.
#2672 [22:51] <iiizinciii> but do you have team viewer?
#2673 [22:51] <Ryladine> Yes
#2674 [22:52] <Ryladine> If you prefer I can use that.
#2675 [22:52] <iiizinciii> ok
#2676 [22:52] <iiizinciii> can you whisper
#2677 [22:53] <iiizinciii> ok?
#2678 [22:54] <mr_fribble> Alright I'm pissed. Night guys
#2679 [22:54] <iiizinciii> ryladine?
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#2681 [22:55] <Thrae> Ryladine: Best would be Windows 2000 Server ;)
#2682 [22:55] <iiizinciii> what do i need for windows xp
#2683 [22:55] <Ryladine> Lol
#2684 [22:55] <iiizinciii> im using flash drives for the ram is tat a prob?
#2685 [22:56] <Ryladine> .........
#2686 [22:56] <Wug> yeah that would make it slow
#2687 [22:56] <Ryladine> I'm not going to bother with teamviewer lol.
#2688 [22:56] <Wug> you need actual ram, ram is fast, flash drives are not
#2689 [22:56] <iiizinciii> ryladine could you go on team viewer?
#2690 [22:57] <Ryladine> Mmm its timing out
#2691 [22:57] <Ryladine> for some reason it freezes on the secure connectiong.
#2692 [22:57] <Ryladine> connection*
#2693 [22:57] <Ryladine> connection*
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#2695 [22:57] <iiizinciii> hmm
#2696 [22:58] <Ryladine> iiizinciii: That message will never go away when you are using flash drives, get more RAM or ignore it.
#2697 [22:59] <iiizinciii> ok i will get how much ram should i need?
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#2699 [22:59] <iiizinciii> some tomara
#2700 [22:59] <Ryladine> depends what you run.
#2701 [22:59] <iiizinciii> its a 20 person server
#2702 [22:59] <iiizinciii> its a 20 person server
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#2704 [22:59] <Ryladine> I work with a community that runs 40 slots and more than 20 plugins on 2gb
#2705 [22:59] <iiizinciii> is it fast?
#2706 [23:00] <Ryladine> Little to no lag with 20+ players on.
#2707 [23:00] <iiizinciii> cool
#2708 [23:00] <iiizinciii> i will get 2gb of ram tomara
#2709 [23:00] <Ryladine> iiizinciii the best way to know is to isntall you plugins, then check the ram conumption
#2710 [23:00] <Ryladine> with one player, and no players, then you can see how much each player will consume.
#2711 [23:01] <Ryladine> For instance, ours takes 44mb RAM for each player.
#2712 [23:01] <Ryladine> and about 300 to sit idle with no players.
#2713 [23:01] <iiizinciii> should i ask the guy at the store an old windows xp comp so he/she can get the right size?
#2714 [23:01] <Ryladine> No
#2715 [23:01] <iiizinciii> what should i do?
#2716 [23:02] <Ryladine> Always take a stick from the machine with you, or the model of the motherboard.
#2717 [23:02] <iiizinciii> ok i have like an 250mb ram thing in the comp ill take that
#2718 [23:02] <iiizinciii> lol
#2719 [23:02] <iiizinciii> 250
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#2721 [23:02] <iiizinciii> ty
#2722 [23:02] <Ryladine> If possible get the exact same stick, but if not keep the DDR type the same, and never go for faster RAM.
#2723 [23:03] <iiizinciii> i will do that
#2724 [23:03] <iiizinciii> ty
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#2726 [23:03] <iiizinciii> night night
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#2728 [23:03] <Ryladine> night
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#2732 [23:17] <cooldue85> hi
#2733 [23:17] <cooldue85> hi
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#2735 [23:26] <lemon-rev> hi
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