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#4 [00:09] <mr_evil> im running my minecraft server with hamachi, and i havent seen a way that works, that will let me increase the RAM that my server is running on, can anyone help me?
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#6 [00:10] <megaman696969> www.clamtxt.com/?r=37882 ...best site ever lol guys lets u send 10 free texts a day anywhere in the world free and anonymous .. if u sign up u get 50 ... i just sent 50 txts to a m8 lol he shit brix
#7 [00:10] <megaman696969> www.clamtxt.com/?r=37882 ...best site ever lol guys lets u send 10 free texts a day anywhere in the world free and anonymous .. if u sign up u get 50 ... i just sent 50 txts to a m8 lol he shit brix
#8 [00:10] <megaman696969> www.clamtxt.com/?r=37882 ...best site ever lol guys lets u send 10 free texts a day anywhere in the world free and anonymous .. if u sign up u get 50 ... i just sent 50 txts to a m8 lol he shit brix
#9 [00:10] <megaman696969> www.clamtxt.com/?r=37882 ...best site ever lol guys lets u send 10 free texts a day anywhere in the world free and anonymous .. if u sign up u get 50 ... i just sent 50 txts to a m8 lol he shit brix
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#11 [00:10] <mr_evil> can anyone help?
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#13 [00:17] <almostroot> ??> mr_evil fubar/hamachi
#14 [00:17] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#15 [00:17] <VoxelHead> mr_evil: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
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#17 [00:32] <Planck> Ugh, Hamachi. It should be terminated with extreme prejudice.
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#24 [01:27] <mib_7rxqdy> i cant download minecraft
#25 [01:27] <mib_7rxqdy> i cant download minecraft
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#31 [01:33] <djtopguns> hi
#32 [01:33] <djtopguns> hi
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#35 [01:45] <Chris> !ping
#36 [01:45] <GreyBot> Chris Your Ping time was 0.531 seconds.
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#41 [01:58] <|Kiikun|Janus|> huzzah?
#42 [02:00] * |Kiikun|Janus| tapes Chris back together!
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#43 [02:01] <mib_9tue59> hey guys
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#45 [02:03] <mib_9tue59> i has noticed that minecraft runs alot smoother with the 1.9 pre5 , then it did before, however i dont under stand how minecraft could run so well on cell phones , like minecraft pocket adition
#46 [02:03] <mib_9tue59> and not on a netbook laptop
#47 [02:03] <mib_9tue59> or even a notebook
#48 [02:03] <mib_9tue59> i mean thse are real computers
#49 [02:04] <Silent_Samurai> Minecraft runs well on my laptop because it has a graphics card. Thats all I know.
#50 [02:04] <mib_9tue59> so my question is also , do u think minecraft might be able to be runed on a netbook ever?
#51 [02:05] <mib_9tue59> why cant notch make a pocket adition for laptops that cant handle games so big,
#52 [02:05] <mib_9tue59> some one should tel to do that
#53 [02:05] <mib_9tue59> bye
#54 [02:05] <mib_9tue59> bitches
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#57 [02:24] <Tsuimonster> Er… does anyone happen to have the latest Register.jar for Towny? (The developer's site is suspended… corrupted hosting companies.)
#58 [02:24] <Tsuimonster> If you can, could you provide it? If not, then it's fine.
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#70 [03:39] <Alasdair`> hello
#71 [03:40] <Alasdair`> i'm having issues running my server is this the proper channel to ask for advice in
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#73 [03:46] <Alasdair`> well i'll write up my issue
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#75 [03:48] <Alasdair`> im running a SMP for myself and my friends on my machine, we don't use hamachi, there are no mods installed, pretty vanilla - earlier today i was working on an underwater tunnel when i fell thrugh the world into nothing and d/c'd and then couldnt reconnect to the server (didn't show up in the mc client), any commands in the server window didn't work (no error message it just acted as if
#76 [03:48] <Alasdair`> nothing had happened), after trying to get it to work for a bit i deleted all the players dat files to force us back to spawn, so i cna log onto the server now - the thing is that it crashes whenever i go near anything or interact with anything constructed by the players, the server won't take commands, i can't interact with anything, and eventually dc
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#78 [03:50] <Alasdair`> oh, and each time it crashes i have to go to the task manager and end the server process and restart it
#79 [03:53] <TheNoodle> Alasdair`, I'd suggest installing MCEdit and loading your world into that.
#80 [03:53] <TheNoodle> Once that's done save it and run it on the server again.
#81 [03:56] <Alasdair`> okay, out of curiosity why do you reckon that'll help
#82 [03:57] <TheNoodle> Because that's part of what MCEDIt does, helps deal with corrupted chunks.
#83 [03:57] <TheNoodle> *MCEdit
#84 [03:57] <Alasdair`> okay
#85 [03:57] <Alasdair`> ah that would make sense becuase i can interact with stuff near spawn
#86 [03:57] <Alasdair`> but not in the chunk that contains my castle
#87 [03:58] <TheNoodle> mmhm
#88 [04:03] <Alasdair`> =( still crashes in that chunk
#89 [04:05] <TheNoodle> Hmmm, before saving, go look at the chunk
#90 [04:05] <Alasdair`> i did
#91 [04:06] <Alasdair`> is chunkster any good?
#92 [04:06] <TheNoodle> Sure, try running it through that :P
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#94 [04:17] <Alasdair`> okay i cant figure out how to use chunkster =((((
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#114 [06:47] <mib_sdyav4> IS THERE AN EASY WAY TO INSTALL MINECRAFT IN BROWSER
#115 [06:48] <TheNoodle> Please be aware that the use of all caps raging is considered rude within this channel, continue to speak in such a manner and you will be muted for a short time.
#116 [06:49] <TheNoodle> That being said, you don't need to install it, just go to http://minecraft.net and click play (in browser)
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#124 [08:07] <rw1231> Hi, my friend bought minecraft and paid for it by credit card through their Ipad...went to their PC and tried to download/install it, but got an error about video disk not found....do you know what this means?
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#131 [08:28] <guest-865734-72336> hi how can i get 1.9p5? some of my friend told me they had auto update but for me force update dont work i still have 1.8.1
#132 [08:31] <clarjon1> 1.9 isn't supported here
#133 [08:31] <clarjon1> but you can get 1.9p5 from the topic in #minecraft
#134 [08:32] <clarjon1> 1.9 will be supported once it's released :)
#135 [08:32] <Thrae> ?? 1.9
#136 [08:32] <VoxelHead> 1.9: The 1.9 releases are not supported as they are known to be buggy and unstable. If you want to use them anyhow:
#137 [08:32] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft.jar -- 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft_server.jar
#138 [08:35] <guest-865734-72336> ok thx because all of my friends are playing 1.9p5 allready ^^
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#166 [09:44] <Splat> Hello
#167 [09:44] <Splat> I have a serious lag issue
#168 [09:45] <Splat> Even restarting Minecraft takes forever now
#169 [09:45] <Splat> Can someone help me?
#170 [09:45] <Splat> Hello?
#171 [09:46] <Splat> ...
#172 [09:46] <Splat> :(
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#181 [10:16] <jogge> cant play minecraft online
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#189 [10:46] <Ikaruga> hi:) I wanted to ask if anybody knows about the benefits of getting the game in the alpha phase. I remember I bought some copies because there was a promise about we (the alpha users) will get all updates for free until the of times (:]) while people buying later will get the game as how it is at the time of the purchase. Was that just some marketing cheat?
#190 [10:47] <Thrae> Ikaruga: People that bought it in Alpha or earlier get all DLCs for free, people that bought it in Beta just get a discount.
#191 [10:47] <Ikaruga> Thrae: Thank you:)
#192 [10:48] <Thrae> Updates to the actual game are part of everyone's package
#193 [10:48] <Ikaruga> Thrae: I did not remember the exact test, that's why I asked.
#194 [10:48] <Ikaruga> text*
#195 [10:49] <Ikaruga> Thanks again, take care:)
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#201 [11:03] <NyanCat> ello
#202 [11:03] <NyanCat> lo
#203 [11:03] <NyanCat> l
#204 [11:03] <NyanCat> l
#205 [11:03] <DJ> May anyone help me?
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#207 [11:03] <NyanCat> ello
#208 [11:04] <NyanCat> u there
#209 [11:05] <DJ> Is anyone not AFK?
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#212 [11:06] <NyanCat> hal[
#213 [11:06] <NyanCat> oh it works
#214 [11:06] <NyanCat> ;po;
#215 [11:06] <NyanCat> :B gopher lol
#216 [11:07] <DJ> NyanCat, who are you talking to?
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#218 [11:07] <NyanCat> yo1u
#219 [11:07] <NyanCat> 01012
#220 [11:07] <bzzman> hi
#221 [11:07] <NyanCat> not me ol
#222 [11:07] <NyanCat> that was henree
#223 [11:07] <NyanCat> i kno i cant go on normal minercaft l;ol
#224 [11:07] <NyanCat> whatbthe nyan
#225 [11:08] <NyanCat> omg
#226 [11:08] <NyanCat> where u go
#227 [11:08] <NyanCat> cokme on
#228 [11:08] <NyanCat> wha
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#232 [11:23] <Robek> http://slexy.org/view/s2EFS5F31t
#233 [11:23] <amphiboly> I've got the sticky w problem. when I type w, I don't move immediately. it means a lot of creepers explode me.
#234 [11:23] <Robek> can some one help me with figuring out why my game keeps crashing
#235 [11:28] <amphiboly> minecraft controls are too laggy on my laptop and I tried hard to fix it. is there something else to do besides the optifine mod + running minecraft on RAMdisk?
#236 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> amphiboly - New computer?
#237 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> Robek - Looks like a problem with the JVM. Could you try uninstalling/reinstalling java?
#238 [11:29] <Robek> i use to have 7.1 or something like that
#239 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft has a known problem with java 7
#240 [11:29] <Robek> i was told to get 6 update 29
#241 [11:29] <amphiboly> it's 2 yrs old and it runs halflife and gta ok.
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#243 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> amphiboly - Doesn't mean it'll run minecraft okay. Minecraft has very high system requirements
#244 [11:29] <GreyVulpine> amphiboly - Doesn't mean it'll run minecraft okay. Minecraft has very high system requirements
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#247 [11:34] <amphiboly> I updated everything. video drivers, java etc. the ramdisk idea is such a pain in the butt. did you ever try to do that? it improves minecraft but w is still sticky.
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#250 [11:36] <amphiboly> I hear a creeper behind me and push w to run away. but it lags a few seconds and I'm exploded
#251 [11:36] <Stampe_> anyone who can help me with my minecraft? i have tried almost everything to get it installed but it wont work, it keeps saaying "cant connect to minecraft.net" ? i cant even play it in offline mode?
#252 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> Stampe_ - Has it worked before at all? What operating system are you on?
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#254 [11:37] <Stampe_> win 7 pro, yes ..
#255 [11:38] <cluelessKodo> where do I download the 1.9 version?
#256 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> ?? 1.9
#257 [11:39] <VoxelHead> 1.9: The 1.9 releases are not supported as they are known to be buggy and unstable. If you want to use them anyhow:
#258 [11:39] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft.jar -- 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft_server.jar
#259 [11:39] <GreyVulpine> Stampe_ - On that computer?
#260 [11:39] <amphiboly> optifine + ramdisk is the only thing that makes minecraft playable on my laptop
#261 [11:39] <cluelessKodo> KK I see___thx!
#262 [11:39] <Stampe_> GreyVulpine yes
#263 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> Stampe_ - Have you recently redownloaded the minecraft.exe launcher from www.minecraft.net/download ?
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#265 [11:40] <Stampe_> Yes,
#266 [11:40] <Stampe_> and i also got my freind to send his files but it still dont work
#267 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Stampe_ - The launcher says "Can't connect to minecraft.net" exactly?
#268 [11:41] <Stampe_> yes
#269 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Stampe_ - Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#270 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, type in: nslookup login.minecraft.net
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#272 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Tell me what the last address line says
#273 [11:42] <Stampe_> 107.22.183.64
#274 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> Alright, that seems fine. Did you switch user accounts in windows at all?
#275 [11:43] <amphiboly> does 1.9 have more efficient IO than 1.8.1 ?
#276 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> amphiboly - Doubt it
#277 [11:44] <Stampe_> i only have one account in windows, but 2 accounts in mc
#278 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> prereleases are known to be very very buggy.
#279 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Stampe_ - In windows, does your user account happen to have any exclaimation marks (!) in it?
#280 [11:44] <Stampe_> yes
#281 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> That would be why.
#282 [11:44] <Stampe_> omg rly?
#283 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> Exclaimation marks in the windows username can cause problems with the login of minecraft. You have two options at this point
#284 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> You can either make a new windows user account that doesn't have a ! mark in it. Renaming your current one won't fix it. Or:
#285 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> You can use our workaround here:
#286 [11:45] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/!
#287 [11:45] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#288 [11:45] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#289 [11:46] <Stampe_> i think i try to make a new account (:
#290 [11:46] <Stampe_> Thank u guys
#291 [11:46] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#291 [11:47] <amphiboly> is it cheating to use rei's minimap mod?
#292 [11:47] <GreyVulpine> Up to you what is cheating and what isn't
#293 [11:48] <GreyVulpine> Follow your own sense of morals. Minecraft is a sandbox.
#294 [11:49] <amphiboly> I think it's cheating to use the exoloding arrows
#295 [11:49] <amphiboly> exploding arrows
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#297 [11:49] * GreyVulpine doesn't really use any mods. Uses default texture pack
#297 [11:51] <poo> on minecraft classic how do you update from 0.30. to 1.8.1.
#298 [11:51] <amphiboly> what texture mods speed up controls?
#299 [11:51] <poo> on minecraft classic how do you update from 0.30. to 1.8.1.
#300 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> Classic is entirely different from beta. Development for classic has ceased. There are no more updates
#301 [11:51] <GreyVulpine> 1.8.1 is beta. It requires a paid for account to play on
#302 [11:52] <poo> i know but i want the best one on classic
#303 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> amphiboly - Could try a simplier texture pack.
#304 [11:52] <GreyVulpine> poo - What you see on classic is what you get. There are no more updates for classic. Notch hasn't worked on classic in a couple years
#305 [11:52] <amphiboly> with optifine you can turn off many texture animations
#306 [11:52] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#306 [11:53] <poo> how do you get the best version on classic
#307 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> There are no best versions. There's only one version
#308 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> If you need to have optifine/optifog, your computer may not be up to the task of running minecraft smoothly in the first place
#309 [11:53] <poo> because my friend has 1.8.11 when i have 0.30
#310 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes, because your friend paid for minecraft beta
#311 [11:53] <poo> he didnt
#312 [11:53] <GreyVulpine> You're playing classic, which hasn't been worked on in a couple years
#313 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> poo - Then he pirated it
#314 [11:54] <poo> he is rubbish on computers
#315 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> poo - We don't help with pirated versions of minecraft here.
#316 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> If you like minecraft, pay for it.
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#318 [11:54] <GreyVulpine> If not, go play some other game
#319 [11:54] <poo> its not pirated
#320 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it is, if it hasn't paid for minecraft, he's pirating it
#321 [11:55] <GreyVulpine> he*
#322 [11:56] <amphiboly> minecraft will teach you to write dos .bat scripts
#323 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> Hah, very true. Have seen at least a dozen people come up with .bat and .sh scripts to run minecraft differently
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#325 [11:57] <GreyVulpine> With different arguments, point to multiple minecraft installation (different combination of mods), or just as a wrapper for the launcher
#326 [12:00] <amphiboly> especially if you run minecraft in ramdisk
#327 [12:01] <amphiboly> you gotta constantly shove the miecraft data around
#328 [12:02] <amphiboly> a pain in the butt
#329 [12:04] <amphiboly> I learned more about DOS .bat commands than I ever wanted to know
#330 [12:05] <amphiboly> whay a horrible command language!
#331 [12:06] <amphiboly> bill gates was drunk when he wrote rhat
#332 [12:06] <amphiboly> that
#333 [12:13] <amphiboly> with my slow laptop the only technique I know to survive day 1 is to live in trees or else play in easy mode
#334 [12:15] <amphiboly> the monsters don't notice you in trees
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#338 [12:29] <flabbergaster> hi, having loads of trouble getting set up, have paid, downloaded, on windows etc etc, but screen disappears after logging in minecraft, so never been to get on to play it. don't know huge amounts bout all this stuff, am stumped, can you help?
#339 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Do you get any hs_err_pid files where you have the launcher/
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#341 [12:32] <flabbergaster> the operating system is on windows xp
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#343 [12:33] <Pachari> i downloaded the minecraft.exe after buying it. how it will download?
#344 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - It downloads files itself when you log in successfully
#345 [12:35] <flabbergaster> will have a go then
#346 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Do you get any error files? any files named hs_Err_pid when the launcher closes?
#347 [12:35] <flabbergaster> no
#348 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Are you sure about that? Where do you have the launcher downloaded to?
#349 [12:36] <Pachari> oh okay. when i log in, it says can't connect to minecraft.net
#350 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - What operating system are you on?
#351 [12:37] <flabbergaster> mine doesnt say that
#352 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Where do you have the minecraft.exe launcher on your computer?
#353 [12:37] <Pachari> Win 7 64-Bit
#354 [12:37] <flabbergaster> on my downloads
#355 [12:37] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - Hmm, question for you, does your windows username happen to contain a ! mark in it?
#356 [12:38] <flabbergaster> no
#357 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - In your downloads folder, you don't have any files named hs_err_pid?
#358 [12:38] <Pachari> uhm no ^^
#359 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - Are you sure about that?
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#361 [12:38] <flabbergaster> i do have folders like that why?
#362 [12:38] <Pachari> yes
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#364 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Could you please copy the contents of one of those hs_err_pid files, paste it at www.pastebin.com and submit it. Then give us the address to it so that we may read it?
#365 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - It'll tell us what is wrong with minecraft
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#367 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile% -- make sure the folder there has no exclaimation marks (!) in it
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#369 [12:41] <Pachari> yes. the path in the launcher has no ! in it, too
#370 [12:41] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - Then, could you make sure your system time and date are correct?
#371 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - If it's not that, then your security software may be blocking java/minecraft
#372 [12:42] <Pachari> as far as i know, yes. have to eat, brb in 15 min
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#374 [12:43] <Pachari> okay, thx that i will try next
#375 [12:43] <Pachari> okay, thx that i will try next
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#378 [12:46] <Volki|Mine|Craft> hello could somebody help please?
#379 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> With?
#380 [12:46] <Volki|Mine|Craft> got a question
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#382 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#383 [12:46] <flabbergaster> ok, have submitted now
#384 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Give us the address to it
#385 [12:46] <Volki|Mine|Craft> i bought minecraft on friday via EC and still not premium
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#387 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Volki|Mine|Craft - Did you get any emails confirming payment? Could you call up your credit card's customer service and confirm payment has been made to Mojang AB?
#388 [12:47] <Emi> When you have bought Minecraft how do you get on it?
#389 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Volki|Mine|Craft - If it has, make sure that you didn't purchase a gift code instead. Check your profile page
#390 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> Emi - http://www.minecraft.net/download
#391 [12:47] <flabbergaster> http://pastebin.com/3JDgNBuR is this what you mean? Im a total newbie to all this, pls bear with me
#392 [12:47] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Yes, one moment
#393 [12:48] <Emi> I have downloaded it, but i don't know how to get on the actual game
#394 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - Could you give me a dxdiag? It seems that your computer may be too old to run minecraft
#395 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> ??> flabbergaster win/dxdiag
#396 [12:48] <VoxelHead> flabbergaster: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#397 [12:48] <VoxelHead> flabbergaster: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#398 [12:48] <GreyVulpine> Emi - The game should launch when you log into the launcher
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#400 [12:59] <flabbergaster> grr, lost connection, sorry
#401 [13:00] <Pachari> okay back. Firewall didn't block Minecraft or Java.
#402 [13:01] <flabbergaster> grey vulpine, you asked me to get a .... ????? can you remind me pls? it may the pc too old to play minecraft?
#403 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - dxdiag. Shows us what specs your computer has
#404 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> ??> flabbergaster win/dxdiag
#405 [13:03] <VoxelHead> flabbergaster: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#406 [13:04] <VoxelHead> flabbergaster: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#407 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#408 [13:04] <Pachari> sure
#409 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - At the black command prompt, type in: nslookup login.minecraft.net
#410 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Give me the address near the bottom
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#412 [13:05] <Pachari> 107.22.183.64
#413 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> That's the right address.. hmm.
#414 [13:06] <Pachari> mh it says 'not authorised respond(?)' but in german ^^
#415 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't matter
#416 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> If it's not the !, it's not the system time and date, the computer is returning the proper login.minecraft.net address, it's gotta be some sort of security or firewall program
#417 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to launch the in-browser client at minecraft.net?
#418 [13:07] <flabbergaster> http://pastebin.com/M1LvkPD6 here goes
#419 [13:07] <Pachari> yes, no problems
#420 [13:08] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - Then it's gotta be the security software blocking java/minecraft
#421 [13:08] <Pachari> mhh okay. i try to reinstall java. maybe i can de-block it
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#423 [13:09] <Tobi> hi
#424 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - As I suspected. You have a computer with less than a gig of RAM, with a SiS M661MX graphics card. Unfortunately, those two in combination aren't suited for playing minecraft.
#425 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> This is also a laptop with a single core processor, I suspect is pretty old already.
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#427 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> flabbergaster - You'll need to look at a different, newer computer to be able to play minecraft, I'm afraid
#428 [13:10] <Tobi> I can´t login in Minecraft! Login failed!
#429 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> Tobi - Hi
#430 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> Tobi - Has it worked before?>
#431 [13:10] <Tobi> tyes
#432 [13:10] <charmander> hi all
#433 [13:10] <GreyVulpine> Tobi - Login Failed can mean one of two things. Either you're using an old launcher from pre-1.8 days (redownload at minecraft.net/download) or your username/password is wrong
#434 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> For the latter, try logging into the website, if you can, change your password using the profile page
#435 [13:11] <Tobi> after a bluescreen minecraft can´t login
#436 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> If not, do a password recovery
#437 [13:11] <GreyVulpine> charmander - 'lo
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#439 [13:11] <charmander> I've got a problem....Everytime when I start minecraft I get the message: fatal error occured 4 unexpected end of file from server .....What does it imean?
#440 [13:12] <flabbergaster> okies, thanks everyone, you've been really helpful
#441 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> charmander - When does this occur? When you're trying to update minecraft? When you're trying to connect to an MC server?
#442 [13:12] <Tobi> -.- okay i see my problem! password recovery wrong password! thx
#443 [13:12] <Tobi> bye
#444 [13:12] * GreyVulpine waves
#444 [13:12] <charmander> yes when I'm trying to connect
#445 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> connect... to an MC server?
#446 [13:13] <charmander> when i update/install
#447 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> charmander - What operating system are you on? How are you launching minecraft? Which minecraft are you trying to play (classic? Beta)?
#448 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the in-browser client, or the downloadable client?
#449 [13:14] <charmander> I use mac oax 10.6.8 and I want to play the beta version...and so far I haven't play one game
#450 [13:14] <charmander> oax = osx
#451 [13:15] <charmander> and when I play via the browser I get the same message
#452 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. Could you go to your mac Hard drive, go to /users/yourname/Library/Application Support/minecraft folder. Delete everything inside except for the saves folder (if you have one)
#453 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> Next time you launch minecraft, it should redownload those files
#454 [13:15] <GreyVulpine> If it doesn't, you may have a security software or firewall blocking minecraft.
#455 [13:16] <charmander> I already did that...and the firewall except minecraft
#456 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Could you disable the firewall or security software entirely to test?
#457 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> The only reason this would happen is if something on that computer is cutting out the connection to minecraft's update server.
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#459 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> Most likely culprit is your security software or network security
#460 [13:17] <Pachari> okay. Give me no chance to de-block it, but it isn't blocked anyway
#461 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - What security software do you have installed?
#462 [13:18] <Pachari> McAfee
#463 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#464 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> We've had people running macafee come here with problems before. Before I come to that conclusion...
#465 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> What version of java do you have installed?
#466 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> ?? java/version
#467 [13:19] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#468 [13:19] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#469 [13:19] <charmander> I have turned my firewall off and still got the same message ... sorry
#470 [13:19] <GreyVulpine> Reason I ask is that Java 7 has problems with minecraft
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#472 [13:20] <Pachari> Version 6 Update 29
#473 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - Could you go to your start menu -> control panel -> programs and features, and make sure java 7 isn't in that list?
#474 [13:21] <Zanto> Hey guys.
#475 [13:22] <Pachari> i just removed every program with java and reinstalled it from the official website
#476 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> charmander - "unexpected end of file from server" points to something on your network or computer blocking the traffic for java downloading minecraft.
#477 [13:22] <charmander> oh okay...
#478 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> charmander - Usual suspect is a security software. Others can include a spotty or flaky wifi if you're on wireless, or an ISP problem
#479 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - I'm tempted to call this a mcafee problem, we've had problems with mcafee in the past. I've basically covered the majority of "can't connect to minecraft.net" causes.
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#481 [13:24] <JonesyBoppa> My minecraft wont load on my laptop and when i run task manager, Minecraft doesn't seem to pop up in it when i tell minecraft to run ......It has been working perfectly earlier today....
#482 [13:24] <JonesyBoppa> can anyone help
#483 [13:24] <JonesyBoppa> ?
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#485 [13:25] <cpn> hey, anyone know how to get SDK mod to work on a windows server?
#486 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> JonesyBoppa - First two things to check. Java install, and whether or not you have enough RAM free on your computer
#487 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> cpn - Sorry, nope.
#488 [13:25] <cpn> *sad face*
#489 [13:26] <JonesyBoppa> GreyVulpine: I have 16gb ram computer.... so there must be.... tskmngr says i have 14 GB space
#490 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> JonesyBoppa - Try uninstalling/reinstalling java?
#491 [13:26] <cpn> I have a linux and mac as well
#492 [13:26] <cpn> if that is any different
#493 [13:27] * GreyVulpine doesn't help with mods here.
#493 [13:27] <JonesyBoppa> GreyVulpine: Ill try that!
#494 [13:27] <cpn> oh sorry
#495 [13:27] <cpn> seperate channel for that?
#496 [13:27] <JonesyBoppa> GreyVulpine: DL Link please ?
#497 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> For bukkit, try #bukkit or one of those bukkit subchannels
#498 [13:27] <GreyVulpine> :j
#499 [13:27] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#500 [13:28] <cpn> not using bukkit, but I guess I can try that, thanks
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#502 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Are you using canary, or some other modded server?
#503 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> The default vanilla server doesn't have modding support at all
#504 [13:29] <JonesyBoppa> Windows x86 Kernel 0.87 MB jre-6u29-windows-i586-iftw-k.exe Windows x86 Online 0.87 MB jre-6u29-windows-i586-iftw.exe Windows x86 Offline 16.12 MB jre-6u29-windows-i586.exe
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#506 [13:29] <cpn> strange, the instructions say "start with vanilla"
#507 [13:29] <JonesyBoppa> which one GreyVulpine ?
#508 [13:29] <cpn> "then install modloaderMP"
#509 [13:29] <cpn> "and then SDK"
#510 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> Oh, my mistake then cpn..
#511 [13:29] <cpn> but you may be onto something
#512 [13:30] <cpn> I probably should try with a moddable server like bukkit
#513 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> cpn - If it says that, then open up minecraft_server.jar with a compression program of your choice, like winrar/7zip
#514 [13:30] <JonesyBoppa> Windows x86 Kernel 0.87 MB jre-6u29-windows-i586-iftw-k.exe Windows x86 Online 0.87 MB jre-6u29-windows-i586-iftw.exe Windows x86 Offline 16.12 MB jre-6u29-windows-i586.exe
#515 [13:30] <JonesyBoppa> which one GreyVulpine ?
#516 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> copy the mod's files over into the .jar
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#518 [13:30] <GreyVulpine> JonesyBoppa - Moment please
#519 [13:30] <wision> hello
#520 [13:30] <cpn> oh I've done all the extraction and installation, it's just that I get the java error when I start the server
#521 [13:31] <cpn> "modloader has failed to initialize"
#522 [13:31] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. sorry, that's out of my area of expertise..
#523 [13:31] <cpn> yeah, sorry I should stop harassing you
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#525 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> JonesyBoppa - What version of windows are you on?
#526 [13:32] <cpn> thanks anyway
#527 [13:32] <JonesyBoppa> windows7
#528 [13:32] <wision> hi.. i'm getting "user not premium" when i try to log in the game.. any idea why is that? i bought it like a year ago, but didn't play for some time
#529 [13:32] <GreyVulpine> JonesyBoppa - Okay, can you go to your start menu, right click on "Computer" and go to properties. Look at System Type. What does it say there
#530 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> wision - If you're getting "user not premium", then that account hasn't been marked as paid for. I'd start with going to http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#531 [13:33] <GreyVulpine> wision - And putting in all the email addresses you normally use
#532 [13:33] <cpn> I have Windows7 as well, what's your problem Jonesy?
#533 [13:33] <JonesyBoppa> I cant get MC to work :/
#534 [13:33] <JonesyBoppa> Umm
#535 [13:34] <JonesyBoppa> 64 bit
#536 [13:34] <cpn> i have win7 64 bit
#537 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> JonesyBoppa -Then you'll need to download jre-6u29-windows-x64.exe
#538 [13:34] <wision> GreyVulpine.. i remember my login name.. that's how i retrieved my password and logged to the site
#539 [13:34] <cpn> works fine so it's definitely possible
#540 [13:34] <amphiboly> what are the best ways to speed up minecraft besides ramdisk+optifine?
#541 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> wision - But your current login name is not premium
#542 [13:34] <wision> but i bought the game before last christmas
#543 [13:34] <JonesyBoppa> w7 64bit 16gb i7 processor ?
#544 [13:35] <cpn> Jonesy my exact configuration
#545 [13:35] <wision> i'll check my emails from last year
#546 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> wision - I'm asking you to do the retreive name, because many.. many people have multiple MC accounts, and forget what their paid username is
#547 [13:35] <cpn> but I had to update to 64-bit java
#548 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> I see it quite often
#549 [13:35] <wision> ok.. thanks so far GreyVulpine
#550 [13:35] <JonesyBoppa> GreyVulpine: It says im 64-bit but i have x86 files folder
#551 [13:35] <JonesyBoppa> Program Files (x86)
#552 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> I'd recommend installing 64 bit java, since you have a 64 bit oS
#553 [13:36] <cpn> jonesy x86 folder is fine if you have 64 bit java
#554 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> And windows has two program files folders. One for 32 bit programs (x86) and one for 64 bit programs
#555 [13:36] <JonesyBoppa> I must accept the Licence agreement ? o.o
#556 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Um, yes?
#557 [13:36] <cpn> yes
#558 [13:37] <Pachari> uhm. Is the launcher from Minecraft.net the newest one?
#559 [13:37] <Chris> yes
#560 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> Pachari - Yes
#561 [13:37] <JonesyBoppa> GreyVulpine: - where is it ? 0.0
#562 [13:37] <GreyVulpine> JonesyBoppa - It should give you one when you try to install java
#563 [13:37] <JonesyBoppa> a there we go :)
#564 [13:38] * GreyVulpine goes afk for a bit
#564 [13:38] <Pachari> i try a restart
#565 [13:39] <wision> GreyVulpine you were right.. thanks a lot :) weird that i forgot that i have two accounts there
#566 [13:40] <JonesyBoppa> GreyVulpine: downloaded...... still nothing ....
#567 [13:40] <cpn> Jonesy, exactly what do you do to start minecraft? The exe?
#568 [13:40] <cpn> And then nothing happens?
#569 [13:40] <cpn> And then nothing happens?
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#572 [13:43] <JonesyBoppa> Nope, zilch zero nada Nothing
#573 [13:44] <JonesyBoppa> Just asks me if i want to run the program... I click yes.... It doesn't run
#574 [13:44] <cpn> aha
#575 [13:45] <cpn> what I did was to uninstall all java, then reinstall the 64-bit version
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#577 [13:45] <JonesyBoppa> This is my MC laptop too.... this is for running my server..... and for playing MC.... nothing else is on it apart from things like Adobe CS5 Collectionm
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#579 [13:47] <JonesyBoppa> Anything I can do ?
#580 [13:47] <amphiboly> does any minecraft mod loader help running minecraft in ramdisk? that is such a pain
#581 [13:47] <cpn> is it the server we are talking about, or the lclient?
#582 [13:47] <JonesyBoppa> My minecraft is not loading... but the server wont load either
#583 [13:48] <amphiboly> I keep losing my worlds with ramdisk
#584 [13:48] <cpn> OK; if neither client or server doesn't start, it's a java problem
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#587 [13:49] <amphiboly> there has gotta be an easier way to use ramdisk besides all my crappy dos .bat scripts
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#589 [13:50] <cpn> Jonesy, you could start with checking if Java is in the path: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/path.xml
#590 [13:50] <JonesyBoppa> tried it
#591 [13:51] <cpn> and it's there?
#592 [13:51] <JonesyBoppa> yup
#593 [13:51] <cpn> *mild swearword*
#594 [13:52] <cpn> starting as admin?
#595 [13:52] <cpn> sorry if I'm being obvious
#596 [13:52] <JonesyBoppa> brb My dinner is ready
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#603 [14:04] <Helper> ??< Teamviewer
#604 [14:05] <Helper> Anyone here not being helped currently?
#605 [14:06] <|Kiikun|> i think that guy isnt... *points at a scarecrow*
#606 [14:06] <JonesyBoppa> back
#607 [14:06] <Helper> Nice, lol |Kiikun|
#608 [14:06] <JonesyBoppa> GreyVulpine: ??
#609 [14:06] <|Kiikun|> :P
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#611 [14:09] <JonesyBoppa> GreyVulpine: ??
#612 [14:09] <|Kiikun|> JonesyBoppa: i think grey's busy :P
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#614 [14:10] <JonesyBoppa> :/
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#616 [14:12] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, can't a man grab some lunch?
#617 [14:12] * JonesyBoppa gives Cooked chicken and milk to GreyVulpine and cookies and cake for desert...
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#624 [14:28] <mib_mz02ho> minecraft keeps oncrashing
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#627 [14:42] <Atticakes> Anyone have any tips for reducing single player lag?
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#629 [14:44] <karandasch3> hi i have buy minecraft but i dont have a activate e-mail
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#634 [15:00] <Zanto> Atticakes: Lag or slow performance?
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#636 [15:09] <Wug> so
#637 [15:09] <Wug> I was reading the online channel stats
#638 [15:10] <Wug> and apparently, I'm one away from being the "loneliest member"
#639 [15:10] <Wug> by saying 5 lines in a row a lot of times
#640 [15:10] <Wug> ... refrigerator
#641 [15:11] <Wug> but its possible that it tracks joins and parts too
#642 [15:11] <Wug> so there
#643 [15:13] <Wug> also Atticakes you can try one of the prerelease versions, and if you have a 64 bit computer, you can install 64 bit java if you havent already
#644 [15:14] <Wug> :j > Atticakes (64 bit java for windows is the last one in the list)
#645 [15:14] <WugBot> Atticakes: (j) Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
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#647 [15:14] <Atticakes> Just checked out optifine, going to try it out first
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#649 [15:23] <HEHE> i need help
#650 [15:23] <HEHE> any1
#651 [15:23] <HEHE> hello?
#652 [15:23] <TheNoodle> What do you need help with HEHE?
#653 [15:24] <HEHE> well i made a multiplayer server and endermen took are house apart and we wanna set it on peaceful whats the command?
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#655 [15:25] <TheNoodle> Change the difficulty to 0 in the server config and restart the server.
#656 [15:25] <HEHE> ok whats the command to turn in back when im done
#657 [15:26] <HEHE> any1?
#658 [15:26] <TheNoodle> It's not a command, it's an entry in the server.properties.
#659 [15:26] <TheNoodle> And stop saying 'any1'
#660 [15:26] <HEHE> ok any1 who wants to know im out kiddies peace
#661 [15:27] <TheNoodle> What?
#662 [15:27] <Pachari> noodle can you help me? 'can't connect to minecraft.net' prob ^^
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#666 [15:28] <TheNoodle> Make sure that there's nothing lbocking minecraft's access to the internet like a firewall.
#667 [15:29] <Pachari> nope, all firewalls down.
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#671 [15:36] <amphiboly> I think endermen are disabled in my copy of 1.8.1. I've never seen one
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#673 [15:38] <bernard> Ok, right... i was modding my minecraft and i had to backdate from 1.8 to 1.7.3 and i had a load of servers in my 1.8 list, i lost them all and there was one in particular that i am DESPERATE to get back. are there any logs i could seive through or anything i could do. any advice would be a massive help. thanks
#674 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> If you didn't save the servers.dat file in your .minecraft folder, it's lost forever unfortunately
#675 [15:39] <bernard> crap
#676 [15:39] <bernard> are there not any logs or anything a can do?
#677 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#678 [15:40] <bernard> would my router log it do you think
#679 [15:40] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the router. I'd say most consumer routers don't typically log, or don't have it on by default
#680 [15:40] <bernard> i have a pretty dambn good one
#681 [15:40] <bernard> ill think ill try that
#682 [15:41] <bernard> thanks a lot
#683 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#684 [15:41] <bernard> thanks
#685 [15:41] <|Kiikun|> google helps.. and web history if they had sites
#686 [15:41] <bernard> i didnt search it
#687 [15:42] <bernard> also, when is 1.9 officialy released?
#688 [15:42] <GreyVulpine> Minecon, Nov 18-19
#689 [15:43] <bernard> sweet
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#691 [15:44] <WaaZa> Hello
#692 [15:44] <WaaZa> Can i get some hlep?
#693 [15:44] <WaaZa> help*
#694 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> WIth?
#695 [15:44] <VoxelHead> WaaZa: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#696 [15:44] <WaaZa> When my friend tries to join my server it says minecraft internal exception java.io.ioexception bad packet id 230
#697 [15:44] <WaaZa> The server is modded
#698 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, you have some sort of mod
#699 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> that would do it
#700 [15:44] <WaaZa> Well
#701 [15:44] <bernard> lol
#702 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> He doesn't have that mod, you need to tell him what mod he needs to install
#703 [15:45] <WaaZa> Ah ok
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#705 [15:45] <WaaZa> Thank you!
#706 [15:45] <bernard> how do i go about getting a static ip?
#707 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> bernard - Pay your ISP for a business grade connection.
#708 [15:45] <bernard> i keep having to change my servers one
#709 [15:45] <bernard> ah ok
#710 [15:46] <bernard> cool
#711 [15:46] <bernard> thanks
#712 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Or, pay for a domain name that points to your IP
#713 [15:46] <|Kiikun|> or no-ip or dtndns :P
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#715 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Or *
#716 [15:46] <|Kiikun|> *dyndns
#717 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> bleh ^
#718 [15:46] <|Kiikun|> mwahah
#719 [15:47] <bernard> for the other guys query is there a way of converting a mod into a plugin or am i making a fool of myself?
#720 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Eeh... iffy.
#721 [15:47] <bernard> cool
#722 [15:48] <WaaZa> GreyVulpine, VoxelHead is this your job? :o
#723 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Job? No. Nobody here gets paid. We're all volunteers. vox is a bot
#724 [15:49] <WaaZa> Ah okay
#725 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> This is a community-run support channel.
#726 [15:49] <WaaZa> Isnt it boring`?
#727 [15:49] <|Kiikun|> Its noj ust VoxelHead'sjob.. its his eexistance!
#728 [15:49] <|Kiikun|> :P
#729 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Boring? Nah. I've been here over a year. If it was boring, I wouldn't be here
#730 [15:49] <WaaZa> True, true
#731 [15:49] <WaaZa> How often are you here?
#732 [15:49] <WaaZa> everyday?
#733 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Pretty much.
#734 [15:50] <WaaZa> how many hours do you spend here?
#735 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Way too long'
#736 [15:50] <bernard> i keep getting 'run out of memory' is there something i can do to prevent this. its just really annoying because i keep having to restart MC
#737 [15:50] <WaaZa> How do i make a workingbench in minecraft?
#738 [15:51] <JohnEBH> GreyVulpine = Overworked/Underpaid, VoxelHead = Overworked.
#739 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting_Table
#740 [15:51] <WaaZa> lal
#741 [15:51] <WaaZa> VoxelHead is a bot though
#742 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> bernard - Happen to have a 64 bit OS?
#743 [15:51] <bernard> yeah
#744 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Install 64 bit Java.
#745 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> :j
#746 [15:52] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#747 [15:52] <JohnEBH> WaaZa- Doesn't mean he can't be overworked xD
#748 [15:52] <WaaZa> GreyVulpine do play minecraft yourself?
#749 [15:52] <bernard> lol
#750 [15:52] <bernard> thanks
#751 [15:52] <WaaZa> Haha JohnEBH
#752 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Man, I haven't touched minecraft in a few months..
#753 [15:52] <WaaZa> Damn
#754 [15:52] <WaaZa> daaaaammmmmmmm
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#756 [15:53] <Procrastinator> halloo
#757 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Hola Amigo
#758 [15:53] <Procrastinator> Greetings good sir
#759 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> Salutations and good day.
#760 [15:53] <JohnEBH> Why this he remind of me of someone...
#761 [15:53] <Procrastinator> Is it possible to get my account name changed in this establishment?
#762 [15:53] <JohnEBH> Does*
#763 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> It is not, unfortunately
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#765 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> That function does not exist at this tiem.
#766 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> er, time*
#767 [15:54] <Procrastinator> That makes me a sad panda good sir.
#768 [15:54] <Procrastinator> I cannot get whitelisted due to the innappropriateness of my name :(
#769 [15:54] <WaaZa> What's your name?
#770 [15:54] <Procrastinator> Pierre_le_Gay, pierre was taken and I was making fun of how everyone I know calls french gay
#771 [15:54] <JohnEBH> GreyVulpine- I remember someone that used to bug you or someone else all the time and had the prefix pro- in their name...
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#773 [15:55] <Yourmom> Hello
#774 [15:55] <Procrastinator> hai
#775 [15:55] <Yourmom> im pissed can you help me
#776 [15:55] <WaaZa> Yourmom, sucha mature name
#777 [15:55] <Scott> You could buy a new account, Procrastinator.
#778 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Oi, too many people pass through here. Don't recall anybody with pro- as a prefix
#779 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Yourmom - With?
#780 [15:56] <Procrastinator> i just spent 21 bucks im not wasting money on a new one >>
#781 [15:56] <Scott> and opt not to get an offensive name.
#782 [15:56] <Yourmom> well my minecraft server wont spawn me in the right place and i set my bed down and im really getting pissed
#783 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Yourmom - Are you sleeping on the bed?
#784 [15:56] <Procrastinator> there has to be a block at the head of it too i think
#785 [15:56] <Yourmom> no
#786 [15:56] * GreyVulpine can't recall if you still need to press "leave bed" for the spawn to get set there
#786 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Well, you need to actually use the bed for the server to move your spawn point there
#787 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Merely placing a bed doesn't move your spawn point
#788 [15:57] <Yourmom> i used the bed
#789 [15:58] <Yourmom> lets go i dont got all day
#790 [15:58] <Wug> cant be daytime, you have to actually get in it
#791 [15:58] <Wug> also if you break it your spawn reverts
#792 [15:58] <Yourmom> I GOT IN MY F****** BED AND SLEPT IN IT
#793 [15:58] <Wug> and dont be rude
#794 [15:58] <Scott> lol.
#795 [15:58] <Scott> ?? attitude
#796 [15:58] <VoxelHead> attitude: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#797 [15:58] <VoxelHead> attitude: In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
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#799 [16:00] <Yourmom> HOW THE F*** DO I GET THERE
#800 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> Get.. where? your bed?
#801 [16:00] <Wug> idk, walk maybe
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#803 [16:00] <mib_09wz7o> i need help
#804 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> mib_09wz7o - With?
#805 [16:00] <Wug> and use all caps one more time, see what happens
#806 [16:00] <Yourmom> FUCK YOU ALL
#807 [16:00] * AuBot kicked Yourmom from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ourmom :Please keep it civil.)
#808 [16:01] <Procrastinator> lol
#809 [16:01] <Wug> lol
#810 [16:01] <mib_09wz7o> i cant download
#811 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Aubot ninja'd you
#812 [16:01] <|Kiikun|> lol aubot beat him to it
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#814 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_09wz7o - What happens when you try?
#815 [16:01] <Scott> Someone needs a nappy.
#816 [16:01] <mib_09wz7o> i can get it like saved and stuff but when i run it i just get a black screen
#817 [16:01] * Wug sets mode +SitInTheCorner Mibbit@c-68-44-115-68.hsd1.nj.comcast.net
#817 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_09wz7o - What OS are you on?
#818 [16:02] <mib_09wz7o> no idea
#819 [16:02] <Wug> probably windows
#820 [16:02] <Wug> I jusr assume windows
#821 [16:02] <mib_09wz7o> oh yeah windows
#822 [16:02] <Wug> :dx > mib_09wz7o
#823 [16:02] <WugBot> mib_09wz7o: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#824 [16:02] <WugBot> mib_09wz7o: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#825 [16:02] <mib_09wz7o> umm
#826 [16:02] <mib_09wz7o> gotaa go
#827 [16:03] <Wug> uhh.
#828 [16:03] <Wug> ok
#829 [16:03] <|Kiikun|> lol
#830 [16:03] <Wug> also I'm leaving for class in like 3 minutes
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#832 [16:03] <Wug> just need to wait for utorrent to be done hashing these gargantuan archives
#833 [16:04] <justin> on the login screen when i log in correctly it says login failed so i play offline and it wont allow me to update to 1.8
#834 [16:05] <Wug> login failed indicates incorrect logon info
#835 [16:05] <Wug> try logging into the site and playing there
#836 [16:05] <justin> ok hldon
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#838 [16:05] <Ninja> hey all
#839 [16:05] <Wug> ^ before you ask
#840 [16:05] <Wug> I'm actually just leaving
#841 [16:06] <Ninja> wow a once in a lifetime thing hahaha
#842 [16:06] <Wug> I'm not disconnecting
#843 [16:06] <justin> nope cant logon on the website eithert
#844 [16:06] <Wug> I'm just going somewhere else
#845 [16:06] <justin> *either
#846 [16:06] <Ninja> jk i know you leave alot but you leave your thing on
#847 [16:06] <Wug> justin: does it tell you your password is wrong?
#848 [16:06] <|Kiikun|> he;s going to the place where Air isnt designated by Block ID 1
#849 [16:06] <justin> lemme check
#850 [16:07] <Wug> if so, then your password is probably wrong -.-
#851 [16:07] <Wug> |Kiikun|: you mean 0
#852 [16:07] <|Kiikun|> ok 0 :P
#853 [16:07] <justin> it says password or username is wrong
#854 [16:07] <Wug> justin: well what do you think is wrong then -.-
#855 [16:07] <Wug> either reset your password or remember what you changed it to
#856 [16:08] <justin> yea but since i got at&t it made the email different so now i cant retrive my pass what do i do
#857 [16:08] <justin> and i did not change it either one day it just said that
#858 [16:08] <Wug> dont have caps lock on or anything?
#859 [16:08] <justin> that the pass was wrong
#860 [16:09] <justin> nope
#861 [16:09] <Wug> what's the account name and the email address you registered it with
#862 [16:09] <Wug> and what do you want the email changed to
#863 [16:10] <justin> snappl pbandjustin@live.com (i think)
#864 [16:10] <Wug> snappl is the account?
#865 [16:10] <Wug> !paid snappl
#866 [16:10] <justin> yup
#867 [16:10] <Wug> why would your live email not work anymore
#868 [16:10] <Wug> cant you just go to their website and sign into it?
#869 [16:11] <justin> i dunno oh and this might be helpful i think me and a freind share accounts
#870 [16:11] <justin> *take out the i think
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#873 [16:13] <Guest67315> i gave wrong e-mail address so i cannot change password snd cannot sign in - help
#874 [16:13] <Wug> why would you give the wrong email address
#875 [16:14] <Guest67315> ask my son - missed out a digit
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#878 [16:15] <fenna> My girlfreind is a pornstar.
#879 [16:15] <fenna> shes gonna be soo pissed when she finds out
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#882 [16:15] <Wug> nope*
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#884 [16:16] <curmet> lol
#885 [16:16] <Wug> curmet: that was your one warning
#886 [16:16] <Sigong> Hi! I need some help with my Bukkit server. None of my friends can connect to it. The port checker thing can't see me and I keep getting the error message. Can't keep up Error message.
#887 [16:16] <curmet> it was a joke :L
#888 [16:16] <Wug> Sigong: ask in #bukkit
#889 [16:16] <Wug> curmet: this isnt the channel for jokes
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#891 [16:17] <curmet> just brightening your day
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#894 [16:17] <Matt943> hello
#895 [16:17] <curmet> you guys/girls work really hard. just thought i'd cheer you up :)
#896 [16:17] <Matt943> i need some help
#897 [16:17] <sherridon> i too
#898 [16:18] <Matt943> its really important
#899 [16:18] <Wug> curmet: do it by giving us candy or something
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#901 [16:18] <Matt943> wug
#902 [16:18] <sherridon> haha
#903 [16:18] <|Kiikun|> Wug: wrong thing to say.. i just watched One Missed Call <.<
#904 [16:18] <Wug> I have to go to class
#905 [16:18] <curmet> >O<
#906 [16:18] <curmet> candy
#907 [16:18] <Matt943> well i slept in on my minecraft server and now im in the middle of nowhere
#908 [16:18] <Wug> curmet: :D
#909 [16:18] <Matt943> O: can you help me
#910 [16:18] <|Kiikun|> ?? telepathy
#911 [16:19] <VoxelHead> telepathy: We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
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#913 [16:19] <Matt943> ;)
#914 [16:19] <Wug> Matt943: wasd
#915 [16:19] <|Kiikun|> Matt943: wait.. you went to sleep and teleported?
#916 [16:19] <Matt943> well i was playing my minecraft server one day
#917 [16:19] <Matt943> and i made a epic house and i put a bed down and slept in it
#918 [16:19] * mib_4i1l4m [mib_4i1l4m@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#919 [16:20] <mib_4i1l4m> i bought minecraft and it didnte give me the game
#920 [16:20] <Matt943> it was 1 in the morning so i shut down after i went to sleep in my mc bed and today i came on and i was in the middle of nowhere
#921 [16:20] <TheNoodle> Have you downloaded the client mib_4i1l4m?
#922 [16:20] <clarjon1> mib_4i1l4m: You have to play it to get it :)
#923 [16:20] <clarjon1> mib_4i1l4m: Either play it in-browser, or download the launcher :)
#924 [16:20] <mib_4i1l4m> how do i play it i dont have it
#925 [16:20] <clarjon1> I just told you
#926 [16:20] <clarjon1> go to minecraft.net
#927 [16:20] <mib_4i1l4m> how do i play it in browser
#928 [16:20] <|Kiikun|> mib_4i1l4m: if you JUST purchased it it sometimes takes time for the payment to get through to mojang.
#929 [16:20] <sherridon> does anyone knows anyting about a bug with chicken dying reasonless?
#930 [16:20] <Matt943> can someone help me
#931 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.net/play
#932 [16:21] <sherridon> i built a c
#933 [16:21] <Matt943> its a wolf
#934 [16:21] <Matt943> wolves kill them
#935 [16:21] <sherridon> barn with cages and my chickens dying reasonless
#936 [16:21] <|Kiikun|> Matt943: was the world the same or entirtely different?
#937 [16:21] <Matt943> for no reason
#938 [16:21] <clarjon1> mib_4i1l4m: Go to minecraft.net Read the page, you'll see a section titled "Play Minecraft Beta:" with two links below it: "In browser" and "Download"
#939 [16:21] <mib_4i1l4m> so how i play it on browser
#940 [16:21] <curmet> dude, you found this help section on minecraft.net and there is a massive download button on the site...
#941 [16:21] <Matt943> wug can u help me with my problem?
#942 [16:21] <sherridon> there s no wulf
#943 [16:22] <mib_4i1l4m> ok i will try that
#944 [16:22] <|Kiikun|> mib_4i1l4m: use use the pointy clicky device and point and click things.
#945 [16:22] <clarjon1> Make sure you're logged in :)
#946 [16:22] <mib_4i1l4m> but if it dosnt work i will come back thanks for the help
#947 [16:22] <sherridon> they just die
#948 [16:22] <curmet> do all the admins work in IT buisnesses?
#949 [16:22] <sherridon> can t do anything against it
#950 [16:22] <sherridon> in 1 sec
#951 [16:23] <sherridon> is that a bug?
#952 [16:23] <|Kiikun|> sherridon: you dont happen to have them trapped drowning in water streams, do you?
#953 [16:23] <sherridon> in the cages is nothing
#954 [16:23] <sherridon> just the chickens
#955 [16:23] <Matt943> WUG?
#956 [16:23] <|Kiikun|> Matt943: wug left.
#957 [16:23] <sherridon> and they just die
#958 [16:24] <Matt943> dope
#959 [16:24] <Matt943> kiik
#960 [16:24] <|Kiikun|> Matt943: theres no reason for you to randomly 'teleport'... so im asuming you 'crashed' the server instead of shutting it down and the map reverted.
#961 [16:24] <|Kiikun|> read... your epic house didnt save
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#965 [16:25] <Matt943> no i had it saved before yesterday but im lost in the middle of nowhere
#966 [16:25] <justin> i gave wrong e-mail address so i cannot change password snd cannot sign in – help
#967 [16:25] <TheNoodle> http://minecraft.net/support
#968 [16:26] <TheNoodle> Next time, spell your damn email address correctly.
#969 [16:26] <justin> my son - missed out a digit
#970 [16:26] <|Kiikun|> Matt943: if your lost.. either make a compass or go jump in lava. that will take you back to spawn.... you coudl also pillar up... but that only helps if you know the land
#971 [16:26] <sherridon> is there a place i can show the bug so notch s team can fix it?
#972 [16:26] <Matt943> i tryed
#973 [16:26] <Matt943> it aint working
#974 [16:26] <clarjon1> sherridon: reddit, the wiki, getsatisfaction, etc...
#975 [16:26] <sherridon> ok thx
#976 [16:28] <|Kiikun|> Matt943: this is smp, right?
#977 [16:28] <Matt943> smp???
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#979 [16:28] <|Kiikun|> ?? smp
#980 [16:28] <VoxelHead> smp: Survival Multi-Player
#981 [16:28] <Matt943> yes it is
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#984 [16:29] <|Kiikun|> have someone else on the server tele you back to 'civilization' so you can go find your house.
#985 [16:29] <|Kiikun|> or just go into creative mode and fly about
#986 [16:29] <anoyed> ok i bought minecraft and it said that the statius would upload in an hour and it hasnt it has been a day where is my minecraft
#987 [16:29] <Matt943> im trying to find it flying and the spawn point changed without my command
#988 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> anoyed - Minecraft username?
#989 [16:30] <anoyed> yes
#990 [16:30] <justin> i gave wrong e-mail address so i cannot change password snd cannot sign in – help
#991 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> anoyed - What is your minecraft username?
#992 [16:30] <justin> snappl
#993 [16:30] <|Kiikun|> Matt943: i take it you never checked out your coordinated for the house?
#994 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> !paid snappl
#995 [16:30] <anoyed> it is bluedragon00001
#996 [16:30] <Matt943> ur right on that
#997 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> !paid bluedragon00001
#998 [16:30] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: wrong mibbit
#999 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#1000 [16:30] <TheNoodle> lol
#1001 [16:30] <anoyed> yes i have two times
#1002 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> anoyed - Check with your payment provider, chances are, the transaction was never completed
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#1004 [16:31] <anoyed> so it shows that i never paid for minecraft
#1005 [16:31] <justin> i gave wrong e-mail address so i cannot change password snd cannot sign in – help!!!
#1006 [16:32] <Ninja> justin stfu we have heard you.
#1007 [16:32] <Oerg866> !paid Oerg866
#1008 [16:32] <Ninja> 3 times
#1009 [16:32] <Oerg866> Yay
#1010 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> anoyed - If your credit card or bank showed no transaction for minecraft, then you haven't paid for it
#1011 [16:32] <justin> den help plz and srry bout that
#1012 [16:32] <Ninja> calm down, tell minecraft support
#1013 [16:32] <justin> ok
#1014 [16:32] <Matt943> kiikun got a sulution
#1015 [16:32] <Ninja> they might be able to change it for you
#1016 [16:32] <anoyed> ok thanks if i cant get it working i will come back thanks for ur help
#1017 [16:32] <clarjon1> !paid clarjon1
#1018 [16:32] <clarjon1> :3
#1019 [16:32] <|Kiikun|> ??> justin accounts
#1020 [16:32] <VoxelHead> justin: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1021 [16:32] <clarjon1> Paid for it 4 times
#1022 [16:33] <clarjon1> once for myself
#1023 [16:33] <Oerg866> Is minecraft login down?
#1024 [16:33] <Philipower> About four days ago I bought the game $21.95 (to be premium) and I saids that I am not a premium member and that I never paid for it
#1025 [16:33] <clarjon1> and two alphas and a beta account for friends ^_^
#1026 [16:33] <Philipower> please help :(
#1027 [16:33] <|Kiikun|> justin: if your email was put in incorrect, we cant do anythign about it here.
#1028 [16:33] <Matt943> KIIKUN Can u help me
#1029 [16:33] * clarjon1 sighs
#1029 [16:33] <clarjon1> Guys, if you're having account issues, this is not the place to get support.
#1030 [16:33] <clarjon1> This is a room full of volunteers.
#1031 [16:33] <|Kiikun|> Matt943: you can try making a worldmap using cartograph-g...
#1032 [16:33] <clarjon1> Noone here works at Mojang, you need to get in touch with 'em.
#1033 [16:34] <Matt943> english???
#1034 [16:34] <justin> it says You can log in to your account on www.minecraft.net/login but when i do that it says my pass is wrong
#1035 [16:34] <clarjon1> justin: You need to get in touch with Mojang about this, not us...
#1036 [16:35] <justin> HOW!
#1037 [16:35] <Philipower> where can we talk to him?
#1038 [16:35] <TheNoodle> lolled 'him'
#1039 [16:35] <Matt943> english please Kiikun
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#1041 [16:35] <clarjon1> Matt943: That was english.
#1042 [16:35] <TheNoodle> You're avenue of support is http://minecraft.net/support or support@mojang.com
#1043 [16:35] <|Kiikun|> eigo o hanashitakunai ~.~
#1044 [16:35] <Razzel> im getting a weitrd screen
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#1046 [16:36] <TheNoodle> Matt943, we can speak in a number of different languages if you wish.
#1047 [16:36] <Matt943> .......
#1048 [16:36] <Razzel> Can someone help me
#1049 [16:36] <Matt943> you guys are really pissing me off
#1050 [16:36] <|Kiikun|> Matt943: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=minecraft+cartograpg+g
#1051 [16:36] <TheNoodle> Plan de décision avec Cartogropher.
#1052 [16:36] <|Kiikun|> ... bonus points for typos
#1053 [16:37] <clarjon1> Razzel: We can't help unless you give us more info than 'weird screen'
#1054 [16:37] <clarjon1> Razzel: What causes it, are there any error messages, etc.
#1055 [16:37] <Matt943> what site
#1056 [16:37] <Matt943> typo
#1057 [16:37] <clarjon1> Matt943: Try the minecraftforum.net
#1058 [16:37] <|Kiikun|> oh look.. even with typos its the first link :P
#1059 [16:38] <TheNoodle> lol
#1060 [16:38] <clarjon1> Razzel: What stage of the game does this 'weird screen' come up? Is it at the login screen, after the login, during the game, etc?
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#1062 [16:39] <|Kiikun|> ??> Razzel telepathy
#1063 [16:39] <VoxelHead> Razzel: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#1064 [16:39] <Razzel> sorry lagging
#1065 [16:39] <Matt943> i got the file now what
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#1067 [16:40] <|Kiikun|> Matt943: use it tot make a map of your smp world. then look at said map and see if you can find your home.
#1068 [16:40] <Matt943> w8 what website was it?
#1069 [16:41] <Razzel> okay im uploading screeny
#1070 [16:41] <Razzel> basicly after it says "Done Loading"
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#1072 [16:41] <Razzel> ill show what happens
#1073 [16:41] <clarjon1> Razzel: Excellent, that's a great start :)
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#1076 [16:45] <Razzel> http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/2577/unledjoq.png
#1077 [16:45] <Razzel> I get that screen after "Done Loading"
#1078 [16:45] <Razzel> ive tried deleting .minecraft folder
#1079 [16:45] <Razzel> multiple times
#1080 [16:46] <Razzel> and one time it got to the point where it generated a world
#1081 [16:46] <Razzel> then it crashed and stayed at a black screen
#1082 [16:47] <Razzel> ?
#1083 [16:47] <|Kiikun|> that looks like video card.... dying.
#1084 [16:47] <clarjon1> ooof
#1085 [16:47] <|Kiikun|> Razzel: try updating your video drivers first. see if that helps
#1086 [16:47] <clarjon1> yeah
#1087 [16:47] <clarjon1> that's either the card, or drivers
#1088 [16:47] <|Kiikun|> MIGHT just be corrupt opengl
#1089 [16:47] <clarjon1> looks like it currently does not like opengl
#1090 [16:48] <Razzel> it worked be4 to the point were a world would generate
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#1092 [16:49] * |Kiikun| tosses a saddle on a pig and rides off to class!
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#1093 [16:49] <frustrated> ok i bought the game again now what do i do to play it
#1094 [16:50] <Razzel> okay so how do u fix the black screen crash
#1095 [16:50] <TheNoodle> Download the client from http://minecraft.net frustrated
#1096 [16:50] <frustrated> ok brb
#1097 [16:50] <frustrated> ok i did now what
#1098 [16:50] <Razzel> ?
#1099 [16:50] <TheNoodle> Double click on the file you downloaded.
#1100 [16:51] <frustrated> one seck
#1101 [16:51] <Matt943> Fuck you all
#1102 [16:51] * AuBot kicked Matt943 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: att943 :Please keep it civil.)
#1103 [16:51] <frustrated> ok
#1104 [16:51] <frustrated> it is giving me all these letters and words
#1105 [16:51] <TheNoodle> lol
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#1107 [16:52] <clarjon1> Razzel: Please try seeing if there's newer versions of your graphics drivers available
#1108 [16:52] <frustrated> what
#1109 [16:52] <clarjon1> Razzel: It would also be good to open up the case, and make sure that there isn't a buildup of dust on the graphics card.
#1110 [16:52] <Sigong> Can Someone please give me a link to thebukkit channel?
#1111 [16:52] <clarjon1> Sigong: #bukkit
#1112 [16:52] <TheNoodle> type /join #bukkit
#1113 [16:53] <frustrated> the last thing it says is waning
#1114 [16:53] <TheNoodle> Paste the entire error onto http://pastebin.com and give us the url.
#1115 [16:53] <frustrated> me
#1116 [16:53] <TheNoodle> Yes.
#1117 [16:53] <frustrated> ok brb
#1118 [16:54] <frustrated> where do i find the url and what is a url
#1119 [16:54] <clarjon1> frustrated: the http://pastebin.com/ stuff in the address bar
#1120 [16:54] <frustrated> ok
#1121 [16:54] <frustrated> ok
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#1123 [16:54] <frustrated> http://pastebin.com/
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#1125 [16:55] <clarjon1> hm
#1126 [16:55] <TheNoodle> frustrated, you need to copy and paste the error into the big box and press submit.
#1127 [16:55] <Razzel> sorry dced
#1128 [16:55] <TheNoodle> Then give us the url of the page it takes you to.
#1129 [16:55] <Razzel> how do u fix the black screen/crash
#1130 [16:55] <clarjon1> Razzel: Please try seeing if there's newer versions of your graphics drivers available
#1131 [16:55] <clarjon1> Razzel: It would also be good to open up the case, and make sure that there isn't a buildup of dust on the graphics card.
#1132 [16:56] <frustrated> what error
#1133 [16:56] <Razzel> black screen is grapchics card related?
#1134 [16:56] <clarjon1> Razzel: In my experience of computer repair, screens like that are either Driver Corruption or Card Damage
#1135 [16:56] <clarjon1> yes
#1136 [16:56] <clarjon1> if it can't initialize the driver properly, you'll get glitched/no graphics
#1137 [16:56] <TheNoodle> raskull1, you should also make sure that your version of java is up to date.
#1138 [16:56] <TheNoodle> :j
#1139 [16:56] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#1140 [16:56] <clarjon1> if part of the graphics card hardware that is designed to handle the 3d calculations is damaged/overheating, then similar glitches may also occur.
#1141 [16:57] <TheNoodle> brb.
#1142 [16:57] <frustrated> what do i do to play :(
#1143 [16:57] <frustrated> it is to conplicated
#1144 [16:57] <clarjon1> aaand with that
#1145 [16:57] <clarjon1> time for me to take my leave for a bit :)
#1146 [16:57] <zkxs> frustrated: what have you done so far?
#1147 [16:58] <frustrated> i just bought the game
#1148 [16:58] <frustrated> and i down loaded
#1149 [16:58] <zkxs> frustrated: so you downloaded minecraft.exe. no just go find it and double click it
#1150 [16:58] <frustrated> Multiplayer Beta Server If you're running on Windows and just want to set up a server easily, download Minecraft_Server.exe (802 KB) and run it. If you want to run the server on any other OS or without GUI it's a bit more involved (see this wiki article for a tutorial). First make sure you can use java from the command line. On Linux and Mac OS X this shoul
#1151 [16:58] <zkxs> *now
#1152 [16:59] <frustrated> that is what i downloaded
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#1154 [16:59] <zkxs> double click it
#1155 [16:59] <zkxs> where did you save it to?
#1156 [16:59] <frustrated> i do and all these words pop up not the game
#1157 [16:59] <frustrated> an i con
#1158 [16:59] <TheNoodle> frustrated, you downloaded the wrong file.
#1159 [16:59] <TheNoodle> !client
#1160 [17:00] <frustrated> what do i have to download
#1161 [17:00] <zkxs> minecraft.exe
#1162 [17:00] <TheNoodle> frustrated, look at the links AuBot just said.
#1163 [17:00] <TheNoodle> If you're on windows, click the windows one, if you're on osx, click the osx one.
#1164 [17:00] <frustrated> there is 3
#1165 [17:00] <TheNoodle> If you're on windows, click the windows one, if you're on osx, click the osx one.
#1166 [17:01] <frustrated> which one is windows
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#1168 [17:01] <TheNoodle> The link right after the word 'Windows'
#1169 [17:01] <frustrated> ok brb
#1170 [17:01] * TheNoodle sighs
#1170 [17:01] * TheNoodle sighs
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#1171 [17:01] <frustrated> ok i did now what
#1172 [17:02] <TheNoodle> Open it.
#1173 [17:02] <frustrated> ok
#1174 [17:02] <zkxs> ;)
#1175 [17:02] <frustrated> did now what
#1176 [17:02] <TheNoodle> You can do this by double clicking on the icon with your mouse. Double clicking can be performed by pressing the top left side of the mouse using a finger on your right hand.
#1177 [17:03] <TheNoodle> Did a window pop up when you opened the file? Also, how old are you frustrated?
#1178 [17:03] <frustrated> ok it is open now what
#1179 [17:03] <zkxs> put in your username and password?
#1180 [17:03] <frustrated> k
#1181 [17:03] <TheNoodle> You can do this using the keyboard, let us know if you need instructions.
#1182 [17:03] <frustrated> and click log in
#1183 [17:03] <zkxs> yes
#1184 [17:04] <TheNoodle> No, press the power button on your computer.
#1185 [17:04] <frustrated> did
#1186 [17:04] <zkxs> frustrated: did it log you in?
#1187 [17:04] <frustrated> it says usre not premium
#1188 [17:05] <zkxs> frustrated: ah, you didn't BUY minecraft. that would have been nice to know
#1189 [17:05] <TheNoodle> Have you bought minecraft?
#1190 [17:05] <zkxs> you can get to the free version
#1191 [17:05] <frustrated> yes i just did like 5 min ago with a credit card
#1192 [17:05] <TheNoodle> hang on zkxs.
#1193 [17:05] <zkxs> owait
#1194 [17:05] <DopeGhoti> ??> frustrated payment
#1195 [17:05] <VoxelHead> frustrated: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1196 [17:05] <zkxs> you did but it
#1197 [17:05] <VoxelHead> frustrated: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1198 [17:05] <zkxs> :( my ba
#1199 [17:06] <frustrated> so i just have to wait
#1200 [17:06] <TheNoodle> Yes.
#1201 [17:06] <zkxs> unfortunately
#1202 [17:07] <frustrated> so like it may take 2 or 3 days
#1203 [17:07] <zkxs> did you pay through paypal?
#1204 [17:07] <frustrated> i payed through the website
#1205 [17:08] <zkxs> well, i'd wait a while then try to log in again
#1206 [17:08] <TheNoodle> There is nothing else we can do to help you frustrated.
#1207 [17:08] <frustrated> ok thanks for all the help
#1208 [17:09] <frustrated> so if u say that i pay through pay pal i dont have to wait
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#1210 [17:09] <TheNoodle> Most of the time.
#1211 [17:09] <zkxs> i didn't say that. but that is what I did and it didn't take very long
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#1213 [17:09] <zkxs> don't go back and pay again though
#1214 [17:09] <frustrated> ok so if i used another card to but it how do i cancel it
#1215 [17:10] <frustrated> ok
#1216 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> Call the phone number on the back of the card.
#1217 [17:10] <frustrated> and cancel it
#1218 [17:10] <DopeGhoti> the transaction; not the card.
#1219 [17:10] <frustrated> ok thanks
#1220 [17:10] <Philipower> zkxs the same thing happend to me
#1221 [17:10] <frustrated> see u later
#1222 [17:11] <zkxs> hmm, i forgot about the payment delay
#1223 [17:11] <Philipower> what happened to zkxs is the same exact thing that happend to me
#1224 [17:11] <zkxs> it didn't take long to go through with the purchase?
#1225 [17:13] <Philipower> I bought it buy visa
#1226 [17:13] <TheNytangel`> ??> Boreeas dont/pm
#1227 [17:13] <VoxelHead> Boreeas: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1228 [17:14] * GreyVulpine kicks TheNytangel`
#1228 [17:14] <Boreeas> :D
#1229 [17:14] <TheNytangel`> GreyVulpine, he pmed me in the middle of my youtube video -_-
#1230 [17:14] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1230 [17:14] <TheNytangel> I try to enjoy our slow internet while I can
#1231 [17:15] * GreyVulpine pings TheNytangel
#1231 [17:15] <TheNytangel> !ping
#1232 [17:15] <GreyBot> TheNytangel Your Ping time was 0.656 seconds.
#1233 [17:15] <zkxs> !pong
#1234 [17:17] <TheNytangel> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1579292109.png
#1235 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Fancy
#1236 [17:18] * TheNoodle hugs TheNytangel
#1236 [17:18] * TheNoodle hugs TheNytangel
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#1239 [17:23] <calatalee> I NEED HELP
#1240 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> calatalee - With?
#1241 [17:23] <calatalee> can anyone help me
#1242 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> calatalee - Only if you tell us what you need help with
#1243 [17:24] <calatalee> my minecraft after i sign in just has a black screen
#1244 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Windows? Mac? Linux?
#1245 [17:24] <calatalee> after i downloaded the minecolony mod
#1246 [17:24] <calatalee> windows
#1247 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Ah, mod.
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#1249 [17:24] <AG_Clinton> That's why mods aren't supported.
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#1251 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Before you sign in, go to the options button. Click on Force Update. Then Done, and login
#1252 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> That'll remove the offending mod, and let you play minecraft again
#1253 [17:25] <calatalee> are mods illegal
#1254 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> No.
#1255 [17:25] <zkxs> nope
#1256 [17:25] <zkxs> they tend to break minecraft though
#1257 [17:25] <calatalee> but how are other people using the mod
#1258 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> You install mods at your own risk. If you cannot follow the installation instructions of the mod specifically, they'll break
#1259 [17:25] <calatalee> i followed the video to the t
#1260 [17:26] <zkxs> sometimes mods just don't work
#1261 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> What version of the mod did you install? Most likely, either you downloaded a prior version of the mod, or you didn't install it correctly
#1262 [17:26] <calatalee> it even said to delete a file that wont allow the mod
#1263 [17:26] <zkxs> meta-inf
#1264 [17:26] <calatalee> yeah thats the one
#1265 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> if you're running 1.8.1, you need to find and install the version of the mod specific to minecraft
#1266 [17:26] <calatalee> i deleted that
#1267 [17:26] <calatalee> aw ok
#1268 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Each time minecraft updates, mods break
#1269 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> It's the responsibility of the mod's creator to update, and the people using the mod to keep on top of every mod they want to install
#1270 [17:27] <calatalee> let me try the what you said see if that helps
#1271 [17:28] <calatalee> there is no options button
#1272 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> In the downloaded client, there is
#1273 [17:28] <calatalee> thats what im in
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#1275 [17:29] <calatalee> onvm
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#1277 [17:29] <TheHerald> Is there someone who can help me with my account?
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#1279 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> !topic info 3
#1280 [17:29] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 3 = We are not affiliated with Mojang and cannot help with account issues. ] ... set by [ * | Sat Nov 05 20:02:13 MST 2011 ]
#1281 [17:29] <TheHerald> Where do I go for account issues?
#1282 [17:30] <calatalee> grey it worked thank you so much
#1283 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> www.minecraft.net/support
#1284 [17:30] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1284 [17:30] <TheHerald> ty
#1285 [17:30] <calatalee> ill try finding one affiliated with my version. thank you
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#1288 [17:34] <TheHerald> www.minecraft.net/support doesn't help me in any way. I need to talk to someone, where can I? (trying to change my password, says it's been changed succesfully but still cant login)
#1289 [17:34] <zkxs> you could email mojang
#1290 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> TheHerald - Try emailing tobias@mojang.com
#1291 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> He's the web admin of Mojang
#1292 [17:35] <TheHerald> thanks, again
#1293 [17:36] <zkxs> it would be interesting to have a bot geolocate the ips of mibbit@* and webchat@* and plot them on a map
#1294 [17:36] <DopeGhoti> Moderately.
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#1297 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Probably more than just a few people here keep logs of this channel. Wouldn't be hard to program/script something like that
#1298 [17:41] <Scott> Statistics does.
#1299 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Ah, well then.
#1300 [17:47] <DopeGhoti> there's that solved then.
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#1303 [17:48] <DopeGhoti> guten Tag!
#1304 [17:48] <Mondenlicht> Guten Abend!
#1305 [17:48] <TheNytangel> Guten Morgen
#1306 [17:48] <mib_1mahks> I just bought minecraft this weekend, and it is lagging a bit, do you have any tips?
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#1310 [17:49] <zkxs> mib_1mahks: is it lagging in single player?
#1311 [17:49] <DopeGhoti> mib_1mahks: what precisely do you mean by "lagging"? Are you talking about network performance, or lo rendering FPS, or what?
#1312 [17:49] <Mondenlicht> Jetzt haben wir gleich alle Tageszeiten ;) Ich glaub aber meine Frage ist für Kenner der Materie schnell beantwortet
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#1314 [17:49] <TheNytangel> Something about fast
#1315 [17:50] <TheNytangel> That's all I got out of it
#1316 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> Was koennen wir Sie sich helfen mit?
#1317 [17:50] <mib_1mahks> Well, when i play offline it freezes a lot. I don't know the tech terms
#1318 [17:50] * TheNytangel thinks DopeGhoti is using a translator
#1318 [17:50] <DopeGhoti> I am: My brain.
#1319 [17:50] <TheNytangel> Uh huh >.>
#1320 [17:50] * DopeGhoti studied German for several years.
#1320 [17:51] * DopeGhoti makes no claim to native fluency, but I get by.
#1320 [17:51] <Mondenlicht> Ok. Es geht um die Bezahlung. Wenn dir Englisch lieber ist auch gerne.
#1321 [17:52] <mib_1mahks> it is lagging in single player, and I do not speak Deutsch
#1322 [17:52] <Mondenlicht> Paypal mag scheinbar meine EC-Karte nicht. Gibt es eine Möglichkeit wegen der Bezahlung direkt Kontakt mit Jemandem da oben aufzunehmen?
#1323 [17:53] <DopeGhoti> Zahlungen können mehrere Tage dauern, zu ergänzen, es sei denn, Sie PayPal verwenden.
#1324 [17:53] <mib_1mahks> HELLO my problem!!!!
#1325 [17:53] <zkxs> mib_1mahks: hardware upgrade
#1326 [17:53] <Sardonicus> :D
#1327 [17:54] <DopeGhoti> PayPal kann insbesondere über einige Debitkarten, vor allem diejenigen, die nicht an ein Bankkonto gebunden.
#1328 [17:54] <Mondenlicht> Hehe, i'll shift to english, i guess we're faster with it. I tried it with paypal, but it refused me. Cant think of a reason why, so i'd like to ask wether there is a support-address at their company
#1329 [17:54] <mib_1mahks> what does that mean???
#1330 [17:54] <Sardonicus> Paypal und Lastschrifteinzug sind beide für den Arsch.
#1331 [17:54] <mib_1mahks> zkxs?
#1332 [17:54] <Mondenlicht> Das weiß ich jetzt auch ;) nur wie komm' ich ans Spiel?
#1333 [17:55] <DopeGhoti> Mondenlicht: as you prefer. If you could not use your card to pay through Paypal, you could try manually adding some Euro to your PayPal balance, and then using that for the purchase.
#1334 [17:55] <Sardonicus> gar nicht.
#1335 [17:55] <zkxs> mib_1mahks: if single player is lagging for you, that is a good sign your computer isn't good enough
#1336 [17:55] <zkxs> you could try turning down the graphics
#1337 [17:55] <mib_1mahks> and how do I do that
#1338 [17:56] <DopeGhoti> mib_1mahks: press Escape, go to Options, and try (for example) setting the view distance to Tiny
#1339 [17:56] <Sardonicus> Just play a cracked version instead.
#1340 [17:56] <Mondenlicht> So far i didnt use paypal. I went a looong way around all sort of online-Banking. Is there a way to contact the company in order for direct payment?
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#1342 [17:56] <mib_1mahks> I have a windows 7 laptop inspiron 1545
#1343 [17:56] * VoxelHead kicked Sardonicus from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ardonicus :Banned: Endorsing piracy. Come back in a day.)
#1344 [17:57] <Balee> Arrr!
#1345 [17:57] <Balee> I mean, hi.
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#1347 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> Balee: aAvast, ye!
#1348 [17:57] <mib_1mahks> I think that is a good laptop!
#1349 [17:57] <Balee> Aye!
#1350 [17:57] <GreeN_> hi
#1351 [17:57] <Balee> Hiya GreeN_. :P
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#1353 [17:57] <DopeGhoti> Mondenlicht: At the moment, PayPal is the most direct payment method available; all others go through merchant banks and other third parties, which slows things down.
#1354 [17:57] <squiggy> jss
#1355 [17:58] <squiggy> how do u run mincraft
#1356 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Double tap W
#1357 [17:58] <GreeN_> anyone know a way to limit the framerate in minecraft without forcing vsync?
#1358 [17:58] <DopeGhoti> squiggy: generally, by double-clicking a desktop icon.
#1359 [17:58] <Mondenlicht> So the only working way would be creating a paypal account, loading money up there and then paying? Wow, that'll take days.
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#1361 [17:59] <mib_wugwug> http://xkcd.com/974/
#1362 [17:59] <mib_wugwug> <3
#1363 [17:59] <mib_wugwug> <3
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#1365 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> Mondenlicht: if your current debit card doesn't work with the Mincecraft site, unfortunately, that's probably the fastest way to arrange things.
#1366 [17:59] <zkxs> mib_1mahks: how new is your laptop?
#1367 [17:59] <DopeGhoti> (This is the first time I've heard of with someone from Europe having this problem; usually it's American banks that are annoying about this)
#1368 [18:00] <zkxs> you don't need a paypal account to pay via paypal
#1369 [18:00] <mib_1mahks> I got minecraft this weekend, I play online 2, and offline a lot. My oline know is not loading properly.
#1370 [18:00] <Balee> ?? framerate
#1371 [18:01] <Balee> ?? index
#1372 [18:01] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1373 [18:01] <Mondenlicht> I could imagine that paypal is having problems in getting my address - their terms of usage tell, that they're checking with a databas, and i'm not sure wether i'm listed on it.
#1374 [18:01] <squiggy> dopeghoti: no really it says permision for applet refused please accept dialog to allow continuation of the loading process
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#1377 [18:02] <Balee> So many possibilities, yet none fitting. Thanks anyways, VoxelHead's script!
#1378 [18:02] <zkxs> mib_1mahks: offline lag could be caused by hardware that can't handle minecraft, or on a laptop the cpu could be turned down to save power
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#1380 [18:03] <Mondenlicht> i guess i'll ask a friend wether he can deal with Paypal, altough its not the best way, certainly the easiest.
#1381 [18:03] <mib_1mahks> What about my online no longer working
#1382 [18:04] <Mondenlicht> but: I thank you very much for the attention and help. seen' so many youtube-videos, cant wait to build-build-buid.. O.O
#1383 [18:04] <zkxs> mib_1mahks: did it happen the same time offline started lagging?
#1384 [18:05] <mib_1mahks> Around then, but someone suggested that I turn my render distance down and that worked
#1385 [18:05] <mib_1mahks> for offline
#1386 [18:05] <zkxs> mib_1mahks: also, something could be running in the background using all your resources (antivirus likes to scan at the most inopportune times)
#1387 [18:06] <Mondenlicht> so thanks and see you around!
#1388 [18:06] <DopeGhoti> Mondenlicht: good luck!
#1389 [18:06] <mib_1mahks> I have Macfee
#1390 [18:06] <mib_1mahks> Will that affect it
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#1392 [18:07] <mib_1mahks> sorry Mcafee
#1393 [18:07] <Balee> [23:58:40] <GreeN_> anyone know a way to limit the framerate in minecraft without forcing vsync?
#1394 [18:07] <Balee> Curious about that myself.
#1395 [18:07] <zkxs> it could. on my (old) laptop i have AVG and whenever it scans i have to just get up and leave it gets so slow
#1396 [18:07] <zkxs> silly notch, taking out features people liked
#1397 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Believe the performance thing in minecraft is a frame rate limiter as well
#1398 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> power saver, balanced, and whatever that last one was.. limited FPS
#1399 [18:08] <zkxs> max FPS
#1400 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> ^
#1401 [18:08] <mib_1mahks> Will that work for me
#1402 [18:08] <zkxs> you could try power saver
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#1404 [18:09] <mib_1mahks> Well, how should I do that, I can not get online, or should I do it offline
#1405 [18:09] <zkxs> you can get to the options from offline or the main menu
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#1407 [18:11] <mib_ckqo0z> I do not know If I am one the same server, but my online minecraft will not load, but offline will
#1408 [18:11] <oldtopman> mib_ckqo0z: Try another server.
#1409 [18:12] <mib_ckqo0z> what do you mean another server, I am talking about the chat server
#1410 [18:13] <zkxs> mib_ckqo0z: there is only one #minecrafthelp
#1411 [18:13] <mib_ckqo0z> there you are
#1412 [18:13] <mib_ckqo0z> how will i get my online to work
#1413 [18:13] <zkxs> does it give you an error message?
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#1415 [18:14] <mib_ckqo0z> No, it just goes black
#1416 [18:14] <zkxs> try restarting the game, and before you login press the force update button in the options dialog
#1417 [18:14] <mib_ckqo0z> Offline you mean
#1418 [18:15] <zkxs> do you play in browser or in the launcher?
#1419 [18:15] <mib_ckqo0z> I have the yodbox mode installed, will thar effect anything
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#1421 [18:15] <mib_ckqo0z> launcher, because my ONLINE is not working
#1422 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> Indeed that does mib_ckqo0z.
#1423 [18:16] <mib_ckqo0z> how
#1424 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Yogsbox is a mod. It mods the launcher, as well as the minecraft files.
#1425 [18:16] <Balee> Is there a channel dedicated to modding, by the way?
#1426 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft, but I wouldn't go there for general modding questions
#1427 [18:16] <Balee> I'd have some basic questions regarding that.
#1428 [18:16] <Balee> Oh?
#1429 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> They got really tired of the same mibbit questions, "How do I install X mod", or "Why doesn't this work"
#1430 [18:17] <Balee> I'm thinking more of basic mod making questions, not using.
#1431 [18:17] <Balee> I can ask here too if it's appropriate.
#1432 [18:17] <mib_ckqo0z> How do you install a mod, while we are on the topic
#1433 [18:17] <zkxs> ?? mods
#1434 [18:17] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1435 [18:17] <GreeN_> guys, there are three fps settings in minecraft which allow me to limit the frame rate. "power saver" limits at 45fps, which is far too flow for my liking; "max fps" maxes my graphics cards and produces around 400fps (my cards burn up quickly); "balanced" lets the fps hover between 100fps and 400 fps - this is still far too high and gets my graphics cards fans spinning. i would like to find a way to manually limit the frame limit (i
#1436 [18:17] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#1437 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, You can try #risucraft, but also check out #mcp-modding as well
#1438 [18:17] <GreeN_> i have already tried forcing vsync on the java executable, but minecraft gives me dodgy results with a lot of stuttering. if you have any ideas, i'd love to hear them
#1439 [18:18] <GreeN_> *far too slow
#1440 [18:18] <Balee> #mcp-modding
#1441 [18:18] * GreyVulpine nods
#1441 [18:18] <Balee> On this server, right?
#1442 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1443 [18:18] <Balee> Thanks. :)
#1444 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> GreeN_ - Minecraft doesn't come with any finer FPS limiting tools.
#1445 [18:19] <Balee> I'll check it when I finally have the time to actually look into what I wanna do first.
#1446 [18:19] <GreeN_> aye, ive given a lot of time searching google for something, but found nothing
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#1448 [18:19] <GreeN_> but im sure there is an answer for me somewhere
#1449 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Risucraft's home to the modloader people. If you want to check out decompiled MC sourcecode, you'll find better luck in #mcp-modding
#1450 [18:20] <GreeN_> i was thinking maybe an external tool for the job, or some way to manipulate java itself
#1451 [18:20] <Balee> Oh, definitely the latter option.
#1452 [18:20] <Balee> @GreyVulpine
#1453 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1454 [18:20] <Balee> MC sourcecode.
#1455 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#1456 [18:21] <Balee> Just clarified not to conflict with GreeN's line above.
#1457 [18:21] * GreyVulpine nods, and also gives http://mcp.ocean-labs.de/index.php/MCP_Releases#MCP_Mod_Framework
#1457 [18:21] <Balee> :o
#1458 [18:22] <GreeN_> thanks anyway
#1459 [18:24] <Balee> Yarr, GreeN. :/
#1460 [18:25] <Balee> He won't be building his castle with that FPS any time soon.
#1461 [18:26] <Balee> Anyways, here's a question.
#1462 [18:27] <Balee> Will I be able to crash MC now?
#1463 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1464 [18:27] <Balee> One way to find out!
#1465 [18:27] <Balee> = I'm curious about a piston setting.
#1466 [18:27] <Balee> Probably nothing unexplored.
#1467 [18:28] <zkxs> quantum pistons can be extended, retracted, or both
#1468 [18:28] <Balee> And until you check which one happened, both is at a limbo.
#1469 [18:29] <Balee> Oh God I wish I didn't have to bother with quantum mechanics again. D:
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#1471 [18:33] <Balee> I was silly.
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#1473 [18:33] <Balee> Let's not talk about this again.
#1474 [18:34] <Balee> Basically, GreyVulpine, what I'd like to know is: what constitutes a mod.
#1475 [18:34] <mib_e5dn7r> yo when I download and log in the game is black, and when i tray to play online its white and i cant do anything
#1476 [18:34] <TheNoodle> A modification to the game.
#1477 [18:34] <Balee> If I edit some parts in some of the .class files in the jar, is that a mod?
#1478 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1479 [18:35] <Balee> And if I save that edited jar, say, myfirstmod.jar into the mods folder in .minecraft...
#1480 [18:35] <Balee> Will that show up in the Mods and Texture Packs part?
#1481 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> There is no mods folder in .minecraft
#1482 [18:36] <Balee> Ah, that may be from the time I temporarily added that mob spawner haxx mod.
#1483 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> So far, the only thing that'll show up in the Mods and Texture packs list, are 16x16 texturepacks that you place in .minecraft/texturepacks
#1484 [18:36] <Balee> Oh.
#1485 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Any other HD texture packs, you need to mod minecraft before using. Any mods, you usually have to insert into minecraft.jar directly
#1486 [18:37] <Balee> That's why we (usually?) need Modloader, then?
#1487 [18:37] <amphiboly> all th mods I've seen are a bunch of files and directories in a zip file that you copy into minecraft.jar
#1488 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Modloader is just one of the big fan-made APIs that people use
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#1490 [18:37] <Balee> Mmhmm.
#1491 [18:38] <Balee> Basically I'm asking this because.
#1492 [18:38] <Balee> Apparently some parts I'd need to edit for my texture pack to work are unrelated to textures.
#1493 [18:39] <Balee> Light colors and sky colors.
#1494 [18:39] * GreyVulpine nods
#1494 [18:39] <Balee> So I thought, hey, I could find the corresponding code in the .classes, could I not?
#1495 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.
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#1497 [18:39] <Balee> I learned some java programming, enough to recognize relevant parts.
#1498 [18:40] <Balee> But obviously if I wanted to publish this, I had to make something user-friendly.
#1499 [18:40] <Balee> So not just a minecraft.jar with modified content, but something more like a mod.
#1500 [18:40] <Balee> Even if a minor one.
#1501 [18:41] <Balee> Then again, having a minecraft.jar with modified content might just be the mod-y method I was looking for.
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#1503 [18:41] <oldtopman> Balee: You might try #risucraft, we're pretty vanilla here :P
#1504 [18:42] <oldtopman> (This assumes you wanted people to know what you were talking about)
#1505 [18:42] <Balee> Heck, I hope *I* know what I'm talking about, oldtopman.
#1506 [18:43] <amphiboly> I'd get familiar with how modloader works so your mod installs as easily as the others
#1507 [18:43] <guacamole> HELP ME WHEN I WANT TO PLAY MINECRAFT IT JUST SAYS NOT DOWNLOADED
#1508 [18:43] <oldtopman> guacamole: Username?
#1509 [18:43] <GreyVulpine> What does it say to the left of "Not downloaded"?
#1510 [18:44] <guacamole> TeOzModders
#1511 [18:44] <Balee> Speak of the devil.
#1512 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> !paid TeOzModders
#1513 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> That would be why. You haven't paid for minecraft
#1514 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft beta requires a paid for, premium account to play
#1515 [18:45] <Balee> Run! Run in embarassment!
#1516 [18:45] * oldtopman smelled pirate all over him
#1516 [18:45] <amphiboly> can't he play earlier releases for free?
#1517 [18:45] <GreyVulpine> Only classic
#1518 [18:45] <Balee> Classic.
#1519 [18:45] <oldtopman> amphiboly: Just classic.
#1520 [18:45] <Balee> You've been triple-info'd!
#1521 [18:45] <amphiboly> that's not very fun
#1522 [18:46] <zkxs> there is the demo...
#1523 [18:46] <oldtopman> amphiboly: How else do you s'pose Mojang sold 4m copies?
#1524 [18:46] <Balee> It's called Classic for a reason instead of Fantastic.
#1525 [18:47] <Balee> So, #risucraft or #mcp-modding .
#1526 [18:47] * GreyVulpine nods
#1526 [18:47] <Balee> You nod a lot! I like that!
#1527 [18:47] <Balee> That means I'm not stupid.
#1528 [18:47] * oldtopman nods
#1528 [18:48] <Balee> Or you are reenacting A Night at the Roxbury.
#1529 [18:49] <Balee> God we have a lot better title for that.
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#1533 [18:56] <peeves> is this game safe to buy?
#1534 [18:57] <jklpo> yes
#1535 [18:57] <peeves> ok thx
#1536 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> 4 million copies sold so far
#1537 [18:57] <peeves> O_O
#1538 [18:57] <jklpo> skilz
#1539 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> Putting that in perspective, that's more copies than BF2 and all the expansions put together
#1540 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> That's more copies than Diablo 2.
#1541 [18:57] <TheNoodle> 4,007,458 people bought the game.
#1542 [18:58] <jklpo> skilz
#1543 [18:59] <TheNoodle> out of 16,092,897 people who have accounts on minecraft.net
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#1545 [18:59] * jklpo is happy for awesomeness
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#1547 [19:04] <Wug> -.-
#1548 [19:04] <Wug> Why can't I connect to esper with mibbit
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#1552 [19:06] <sockmister> online MC won't work
#1553 [19:07] <Balee> Wug: Why would you want to when you can use not-Mibbit!
#1554 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - And why is that?
#1555 [19:07] <Wug> because I'm out and about
#1556 [19:07] <kermit> my game opens but it says that it is done loading but it just freezes and the green bar isnt full??????
#1557 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> kermit - Operating system?
#1558 [19:08] <sockmister> :O It shows a white screen in online MC
#1559 [19:08] <kermit> mac
#1560 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> ??> kermit mac/reinst
#1561 [19:08] <VoxelHead> kermit: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
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#1563 [19:08] <VoxelHead> kermit: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1564 [19:08] <sockmister> no...
#1565 [19:08] <kermit> thanks
#1566 [19:08] <sockmister> :s
#1567 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - And it works in single player?
#1568 [19:09] <mib_4m1229> i am not able to load classic because it says fatal error (4) plz help
#1569 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> mib_4m1229 - What does the full error say?
#1570 [19:09] <mib_4m1229> something like cannot load applet
#1571 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Could you try loading classic again, and write what it says down?
#1572 [19:10] <mib_4m1229> yes i will just a sec
#1573 [19:10] <sockmister> http://miburl.com/UF7KOb MINECRAFT
#1574 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - Yes.. that's the URL to minecraft.net, and?
#1575 [19:11] <sockmister> it is a shortcut
#1576 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> I can see that. What does it have to do with your issue?
#1577 [19:12] <sockmister> I tried online...
#1578 [19:12] <mib_4m1229> an error occurred while loading applet please contact support to resolve this issure fatal error occured (4) unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
#1579 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_4m1229 - Try a different browser. If that doesn't work, uninstall/reinstall java.
#1580 [19:13] <sockmister> It did not work (online)
#1581 [19:13] <mib_4m1229> ok thank you
#1582 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - Minecraft classic or beta?
#1583 [19:13] <sockmister> beta
#1584 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - Does single player work at all?
#1585 [19:13] <mib_4m1229> same thing happened with chrome
#1586 [19:14] <sockmister> classic or beta
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#1588 [19:14] <mib_4m1229> classic
#1589 [19:14] <mib_4m1229> classic
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#1591 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - Beta
#1592 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - Does beta, single player work for you?
#1593 [19:14] <mib_4m1229> i dont have it
#1594 [19:14] <sockmister> no:s
#1595 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> sockmister - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#1596 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> ??> sockmister win/dxdiag
#1597 [19:14] <VoxelHead> sockmister: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1598 [19:14] <VoxelHead> sockmister: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1599 [19:14] <mib_4m1229> oh haha u werent talking to me
#1600 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> mib_4m1229 - Try uninstalling and reinstalling java. You can get the latest java by going to java.com
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#1602 [19:16] <sockmister> :O
#1603 [19:16] <sockmister> :/
#1604 [19:17] <rorey> hi my minecraft download says i cant connect on downloadable version it wants me to just try again or play offline and in browser is laggy how do i fix it
#1605 [19:18] <rorey> i know i typed in the right username and password
#1606 [19:18] <Wug> blugh
#1607 [19:18] <rorey> can someone help?
#1608 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> rorey - Sounds like two seperate problems. Which one do you want to tackle first? First one, could you tell us what error message you get upon logging in? Second, can you give us your system's specs?
#1609 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> rorey - Have you tried going into minecraft's video options and turning down some of the options in there?
#1610 [19:21] <rorey> yes
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#1612 [19:22] <rorey> when i go to the desktop one i type in my username and password and it says retry and play offline and i want to play multiplayer on desktop because less laggy
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#1614 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> rorey - What operating system are you running? Windows? Mac? Linux?
#1615 [19:22] <rorey> windows
#1616 [19:22] <hhhhhiiii> hi im back
#1617 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> rorey - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#1618 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> ??> rorey win/dxdiag
#1619 [19:22] <rorey> how
#1620 [19:22] <VoxelHead> rorey: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1621 [19:22] <Wug> hmm.. weird
#1622 [19:23] <VoxelHead> rorey: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1623 [19:23] <Wug> ;check aquinas.student.rit.edu
#1624 [19:23] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: aquinas.student.rit.edu:25565 (Timed out)
#1625 [19:23] <Wug> ;check aquinas.student.rit.edu:80
#1626 [19:23] <WugBot> aquinas.student.rit.edu:80 is accepting connections.
#1627 [19:23] <Wug> ...huh?
#1628 [19:24] <clarjon1> heh
#1629 [19:24] <Wug> did my desktop kill itself or something -.-
#1630 [19:24] <Wug> brb fixing
#1631 [19:24] <hhhhhiiii> MC crashes when i press video settings
#1632 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> Got any error reports? Any files named hs_err_pid?
#1633 [19:25] <hhhhhiiii> I'm on macbook and its on my mac
#1634 [19:25] <rorey> no it didn't work
#1635 [19:25] <xales> o/ GV, Wug
#1636 [19:25] <hhhhhiiii> its on 1.9 pre 5
#1637 [19:25] <rorey> oh hold on didnt see something
#1638 [19:25] <GreyVulpine> \o
#1639 [19:25] <Wug> xales: I'd been wondering if you died
#1640 [19:26] <Wug> M is no longer registered in case you're curious
#1641 [19:26] <xales> I dropped it
#1642 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> xales likes to surprise us from the other side of the grave every now and then
#1643 [19:26] <Wug> that works too
#1644 [19:26] <xales> IIRC I had it held
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#1646 [19:26] <Wug> is M or an equivalent ever going to be our new #minecraft overlord again?
#1647 [19:26] <Wug> :3
#1648 [19:27] <xales> maybe
#1649 [19:27] <xales> when I get over the fact that I hate every programming language that exists
#1650 [19:27] <xales> and am too lazy to develop my own
#1651 [19:27] <xales> I will write one
#1652 [19:27] <xales> ._.
#1653 [19:28] <Wug> lol
#1654 [19:28] <Wug> write it an assembly
#1655 [19:28] <xales> (fun fact: I spent about 2 weeks working on an ECMAScript-like language. Then I gave up)
#1656 [19:28] <rorey> hey i got it http://pastebin.com/SJjUdFxS
#1657 [19:28] <Wug> interface it with perl
#1658 [19:28] <Wug> and run it in a windows 95 vm
#1659 [19:28] <rorey> huh
#1660 [19:29] <rorey> me?
#1661 [19:29] <xales> no
#1662 [19:29] <rorey> ok
#1663 [19:29] <rorey> Wug i did it
#1664 [19:30] <Wug> ... did what
#1665 [19:30] <rorey> i did the instuctions
#1666 [19:30] <rorey> and pasted thing
#1667 [19:30] <hhhhhiiii> GreyVulpine check PMs
#1668 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> rorey - Try an uninstall/reinstall of java. Go to your control panel -> uninstall a program, and uninstall java from there. Then reinstall java from java.com
#1669 [19:31] <hhhhhiiii> Uhhh... I'm a kid...
#1670 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> hhhhhiiii - There's a reason why we put:
#1671 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> !topic info 4
#1672 [19:31] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 4 = Minecraft 1.9-pre5 is released. We will not support it until its stable release. ] ... set by [ * | Sat Nov 05 20:02:13 MST 2011 ]
#1673 [19:31] <rorey> Wug i am installing new version of Java
#1674 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> in the topic of this channel... we kinda expect people to read it. And prereleases are buggy.
#1675 [19:31] <hhhhhiiii> Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
#1676 [19:32] <Wug> GreyVulpine: we should just give up with the topic
#1677 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Been telling that to people ever since I got here
#1678 [19:32] <Wug> it gets read about as often as /quote help umode
#1679 [19:32] <Wug> which nobody even cares about
#1680 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> We can have a dozen bots noticing people, but they'll still hop on whenever minecraft is down, and ask.
#1681 [19:33] <Wug> we should just move the channel
#1682 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> I can turn colors and, and make the topic a bright yellow/red mess, and people still wouldn't read it
#1683 [19:33] <Wug> up and relocate somewhere else
#1684 [19:33] <Wug> leave all the bots here
#1685 [19:33] <hhhhhiiii> Yeah
#1686 [19:34] <Wug> they spam blasts of "yes we know minecraft is down"
#1687 [19:34] <hhhhhiiii> ...
#1688 [19:34] <hhhhhiiii> wow
#1689 [19:34] <Wug> is it down now or something
#1690 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> No
#1691 [19:34] <hhhhhiiii> yay
#1692 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> But hhhhhiiii's PM was of a 1.9 error.
#1693 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Hence why I !topic-d
#1694 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> It will be down more or less throughout MineCon though. This is my gift of a prediction from me to #minecrafthelp
#1695 [19:35] <Wug> hmm
#1696 [19:35] * GreyVulpine grumbles
#1696 [19:35] <GreyVulpine> Most likely will
#1697 [19:35] <Wug> lol
#1698 [19:35] * GreyVulpine kicks DopeGhoti
#1698 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> ow!
#1699 [19:35] <Wug> mollstam won't be there to fix it, so naturally it will die 20 minutes after he leaves
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#1701 [19:35] <hhhhhiiii> *grumble*
#1702 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> ??+ dont/pre|We do not support any pre-release versions of Minecraft.
#1703 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> there, a non-topic FAQ entry for that.
#1704 [19:36] <Wug> see also
#1705 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> ??> Wug sep
#1706 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> (:
#1707 [19:36] <VoxelHead> Wug: (sep) Somebody Else's Problem
#1708 [19:36] <Wug> the next version of minecraft won't be beta 1.9
#1709 [19:36] <Wug> it will be 1.0
#1710 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> Maybe
#1711 [19:36] <Wug> with no beta qualifier
#1712 [19:36] <GreyVulpine> It is
#1713 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> with Mojang, seeing is believing.
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#1715 [19:36] * Wug snorts
#1715 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> and sometimes, not even then
#1716 [19:37] <hhhhhiiii> AFTER 1.9 IS 1.10
#1717 [19:37] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft 1.0, build 2412
#1718 [19:37] <DopeGhoti> ??> hhhhhiiii dont/shout
#1719 [19:37] <VoxelHead> hhhhhiiii: (dont/shout) There is no need to yell. The acoustics in here are wonderful.
#1720 [19:37] <Wug> hhhhhiiii: can you change your nickname
#1721 [19:37] <hhhhhiiii> Idk how...
#1722 [19:37] <Wug> /nick something
#1723 [19:38] <Wug> ;search nick
#1724 [19:38] <WugBot> Matches for "nick": changenick please
#1725 [19:38] <Wug> DopeGhoti: can you make vox able to do this ^
#1726 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> ??< irc/nick
#1727 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> ?? irc/nick
#1728 [19:38] <VoxelHead> irc/nick: To set your name in IRC, type /nick _______
#1729 [19:38] <VoxelHead> irc/nick: Fill in the blank with your desired name, naturally.
#1730 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> Wug: with the forthcoming rewrite, that is in the cards.
#1731 [19:38] <Wug> inb4 john4s13 is now known as _______
#1732 [19:39] <Wug> DopeGhoti: that and nickserv account authentication?
#1733 [19:39] <jo43> *** jo43 is now known as ooooo
#1734 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> Wug: Vox is already registered with Nickserv.
#1735 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> or is that not what you were asking?
#1736 [19:40] <Wug> DopeGhoti: I mean recognizing users based on whether or not they're logged in
#1737 [19:40] <Wug> as opposed to by hostname (that is what it uses now, right?)
#1738 [19:40] <GreyVulpine> Huh?
#1739 [19:40] <Wug> ;account
#1740 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> Wug: Sadly, that would require more or less a complete rewrite of the bot engine itself; not just one of the modules.
#1741 [19:40] <WugBot> Wug is logged in as: wug
#1742 [19:40] <Wug> ;account
#1743 [19:40] <WugBot> Wug is not logged in.
#1744 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> I can add an ad-ho query command like that one though, easily enough.
#1745 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> ad-hoc even
#1746 [19:41] <Wug> could you add account authentication on top of hostnames, so it supports both?
#1747 [19:41] <Wug> Jo99: changing your nick frequently isnt polite
#1748 [19:41] <Jo99> sorry...
#1749 [19:42] <Wug> some channels (here for instance) will automatically ban you if you do it too much
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#1751 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> Wug: for authentication, no. again, that's a bot engine issue.
#1752 [19:42] <Wug> :<
#1753 [19:42] <Jo99> I didn't like them...
#1754 [19:42] <quaddle> uhh what is the "full game"?
#1755 [19:42] <quaddle> anyone?
#1756 [19:42] <Wug> random fact of the day: the mibbit frog's name is Kenneth
#1757 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> quaddle: the as-yet-not-released version of Minecraft.
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#1759 [19:43] <Wug> quaddle: soon to be released even, debuting at minecon
#1760 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> Presumably.
#1761 [19:43] <Jo99> Ambience (cave noises) are scary!
#1762 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> "inb4 'and now on the big screen, Minecraft! *BSoD*"
#1763 [19:44] <zkxs> perhaps a rickroll?
#1764 [19:45] <Jo99> gtg
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#1767 [20:01] <mr_pants> Our game is superslow what can we do????
#1768 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> play faster?
#1769 [20:02] <mr_pants> that does not work
#1770 [20:02] <zkxs> was minecraft always this slow on your machine, or is this new?
#1771 [20:03] <mr_pants> We just bought the game online so it should not be slow and it alway's was slow
#1772 [20:03] <Wug> its probably either a really old computer or a really old graphics driver
#1773 [20:03] <Wug> :dx > mr_pants
#1774 [20:03] <WugBot> mr_pants: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1775 [20:03] <WugBot> mr_pants: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#1777 [20:06] <mr_pants> I have no idea what you are talking about
#1778 [20:06] <Wug> :directions > mr_pants
#1779 [20:06] <WugBot> mr_pants: (directions) Everything is explained in the directions. If you can't find it, look harder, its there somewhere. Just follow the directions and don't skip any steps.
#1780 [20:07] <Wug> If you're not on a windows computer that's something you should tell us
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#1783 [20:14] <tjayh913> ugh, tried to install the mod loader and a redstone logic gate mod and screen is now black. Where do I find the error log?
#1784 [20:15] <zkxs> we don't support mods here. however, you can download the .jar launcher and run it from a terminal
#1785 [20:15] <zkxs> that will give you some nice debug info
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#1787 [20:16] <tjayh913> But is there an error log file somewhere, as I have read references to it in the forums, but cannot locate it.
#1788 [20:17] <zkxs> you could check %appdata%\.minecraft
#1789 [20:17] <tjayh913> yep, at that folder
#1790 [20:17] <zkxs> there might be some HS_blablahblah stuff there
#1791 [20:17] <zkxs> if there isn't you need to run from a terminal
#1792 [20:18] <tjayh913> maybe I should just get a new .jar file and start again
#1793 [20:21] <tjayh913> ah yeah that works, second thought might be a version conflict with prerelease on mods anyway
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#1796 [20:29] <amphiboly> what's your favorite mod?
#1797 [20:30] <tjayh913> do I have to redownload everything to downgrade back to 1.8?
#1798 [20:30] <tjayh913> or can I get the .jar file alone somewhere?
#1799 [20:30] <zkxs> just re-download, it doesn't take that long
#1800 [20:31] <zkxs> btw, you could have backed it up
#1801 [20:31] <zkxs> (and force-update in the launcher will do it for you)
#1802 [20:35] * tjayh913 needs to remember to stop closing the .minecraft folder, albeit he has learned how to get to it quickly
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#1803 [20:37] <Balee> Good night! :)
#1804 [20:38] <mib_epehd2> i just bought the game and when i chose my world and hit enter it just stays black screen
#1805 [20:38] <mib_epehd2> what do i do
#1806 [20:38] <zkxs> what operating system do you use?
#1807 [20:38] <mib_epehd2> mac
#1808 [20:38] <zkxs> what version is it?
#1809 [20:38] <mib_epehd2> os
#1810 [20:39] <zkxs> is it max OSX 10.5.8?
#1811 [20:39] <mib_epehd2> ya
#1812 [20:39] <zkxs> ??> mib_epehd2 mac/10.5.8
#1813 [20:39] <VoxelHead> mib_epehd2: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#1814 [20:39] <VoxelHead> mib_epehd2: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#1815 [20:40] <zkxs> this is a known issue with the version of mac you are running
#1816 [20:40] <TheNoodle> :old/mac
#1817 [20:40] <WugBot> old/mac: As of the 1.8 update minecraft will not work on Mac OSX 10.5.8, due to an update in the version of OpenGL it uses. This is a known issue and will be corrected as soon as 1.9 is released. Please be patient, as this is not the fault of Mojang. Blame instead apple, becuse they cannot keep their OS's running the latest version of important software.
#1818 [20:40] <WugBot> old/mac: A fan made fix can be found here: http://goo.gl/ae0jx and a tutorial here: http://goo.gl/IWLwN
#1819 [20:40] <TheNoodle> I like that factoid better :P
#1820 [20:40] <zkxs> that IS better
#1821 [20:41] <zkxs> is wugbot gradually usurping vox?
#1822 [20:41] <zkxs> D:
#1823 [20:41] <TheNoodle> lol
#1824 [20:41] <zkxs> does wugbot have a factoid listing?
#1825 [20:41] <zkxs> ;help factoid
#1826 [20:41] <TheNoodle> ;search java
#1827 [20:41] <WugBot> Matches for "java": check/java java java/archive java/version/cmd
#1828 [20:41] <TheNoodle> ;)
#1829 [20:42] <TheNoodle> ;search mac
#1830 [20:42] <WugBot> Matches for "mac": hamachi old/mac
#1831 [20:42] <tjayh913> ah yeah, just had to give up the prerelease to be able to use this
#1832 [20:42] <mib_epehd2> wugbot i got that mediafire now i can play
#1833 [20:43] <zkxs> :bot
#1834 [20:43] <WugBot> bot: I am a bot and cannot help you on my own. Except if you ask me certain questions to which I know the answers. Otherwise, ask someone for help who does not have "bot" in their name.
#1835 [20:43] <zkxs> :)
#1836 [20:44] <zkxs> mib_epehd2: did you install it as the video explains?
#1837 [20:45] <mib_epehd2> ahh how did you answer that if not a game related question
#1838 [20:46] <zkxs> mib_epehd2: if you follow the installation video exactly it should work.
#1839 [20:47] <zkxs> we don't support mods here though, so the *official* help is to wait for notch to fix the issue in 1.9
#1840 [20:47] <mib_epehd2> kk
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#1843 [20:52] <zkxs> the game?
#1844 [20:52] <mr_evil> i need help
#1845 [20:52] <zkxs> just ask
#1846 [20:52] <mr_evil> my minecraft wont work
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#1848 [20:52] <zkxs> i guessed that
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#1850 [20:53] <zkxs> what is it doing?
#1851 [20:53] <mr_evil> when i click on it, it wont show anything
#1852 [20:53] <zkxs> what is 'it'
#1853 [20:54] <mr_evil> my minecraft
#1854 [20:54] <zkxs> do you play in-browser or with the launcher?
#1855 [20:55] <mr_evil> i play with MinecraftSP
#1856 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> So you pirated minecraft. And you expect us to help you with something you didn't pay for?
#1857 [20:56] <mr_evil> idk
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#1859 [20:57] <mr_evil> i just need help
#1860 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft?
#1861 [20:58] <mr_evil> i did before then it never worked for me so i just got the SP
#1862 [20:59] <GreyVulpine> MinecraftSP.exe is a pirated/cracked minecraft client. It is not made, nor supported by Mojang.
#1863 [20:59] <TheNoodle> What is your account name mr_evil?
#1864 [20:59] <mr_evil> Bangath
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#1866 [21:00] <TheNoodle> !paid bangath
#1867 [21:00] <quaddle> hi
#1868 [21:00] * TheNoodle pokes AuBot
#1868 [21:01] <quaddle> how is this bangath
#1869 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> That's not a premium account
#1870 [21:01] <|Kiikun|> !paid bangath
#1871 [21:01] <|Kiikun|> <.<
#1872 [21:01] <TheNoodle> mr_evil, you have not paid for minecraft.
#1873 [21:01] <quaddle> who is bangath
#1874 [21:01] <quaddle> or mr evil
#1875 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> You are, quaddle.
#1876 [21:01] <|Kiikun|> ??> quaddle only/you
#1877 [21:01] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#1878 [21:01] <VoxelHead> quaddle: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
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#1880 [21:02] <TheNoodle> I honestly lolled.
#1881 [21:02] <quaddle> ok
#1882 [21:02] <TheNoodle> quaddle/mr_evil we can look at your hostmask and see it's the same person.
#1883 [21:02] <TheNoodle> !kick quaddle
#1884 [21:02] * AuBot kicked quaddle from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uaddle :You are the weakest link, goodbye! (Issued by TheNoodle with reason: None given.))
#1885 [21:02] <TheNoodle> !kick mr_evil
#1886 [21:02] * AuBot kicked mr_evil from #minecrafthelp (Reason: r_evil :I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here. (Issued by TheNoodle with reason: None given.))
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#1888 [21:04] <Bigb2033> bdakfbha
#1889 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> !kb Bigb2033
#1890 [21:04] * GreyBot kicked Bigb2033 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: igb2033 :<Kicks:849>)
#1891 [21:04] <TheNoodle> <3
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#1894 [21:06] <fault> "you are the weakest link"
#1895 [21:06] <fault> i just started watching dr. who, i laughed a little
#1896 [21:07] <fault> i suppose that's just a general reference
#1897 [21:08] <|Kiikun|> fault: goodbye.
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#1899 [21:09] <peeves> sup
#1900 [21:09] <peeves> anyone need help?
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#1902 [21:10] <peeves> hey anyon know whats gonna be in pre6?
#1903 [21:10] <|Kiikun|> 11/15.
#1904 [21:10] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1905 [21:10] <aunknownchild> can someone help me?
#1906 [21:10] <fault> there probably won't be one, notch is planning on doing a full release in a few weeks
#1907 [21:10] <fault> aunknownchild, ask
#1908 [21:10] * mib_u2i2n7 [mib_u2i2n7@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1909 [21:11] <mib_u2i2n7> how do i make my own server?
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#1911 [21:11] <mib_u2i2n7> does it cost money?
#1912 [21:11] <|Kiikun|> ??> mib_u2i2n7 smp/serversetup
#1913 [21:11] <VoxelHead> mib_u2i2n7: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#1914 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Only if you're not hosting it yourself
#1915 [21:11] <VoxelHead> mib_u2i2n7: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1916 [21:11] <mib_u2i2n7> what do u mean not hosting it myself?
#1917 [21:11] <fault> I can't believe there are people ignorant enough not to know how to forward ports D:
#1918 [21:12] <aunknownchild> my minecraft will not stay on for more than 1 minute!!! i just want to play some minecraft
#1919 [21:12] <fault> mib_u2i2n7, hosting it from your own computer, in lieu of renting a server for money
#1920 [21:12] <mib_u2i2n7> fault u mad bro?
#1921 [21:12] <fault> i mad.
#1922 [21:12] <mib_u2i2n7> so i have to pay money if i am hosting it?
#1923 [21:12] <|Kiikun|> mib no
#1924 [21:12] <mib_u2i2n7> ok then sweet
#1925 [21:12] <mib_u2i2n7> is voxelhead a bot?
#1926 [21:13] <TheNoodle> Yes.
#1927 [21:13] <mib_u2i2n7> hey greyvilpine , voxelhead u guys real?
#1928 [21:13] <zkxs> the reason people find port forwarding tricky is that it requires you to set up an external device, which you almost never have to do during normal computer usage.
#1929 [21:13] <amphiboly> how do you run minecraft as a host?
#1930 [21:13] <TheNoodle> Grey is real, Vox is a bot.
#1931 [21:13] <|Kiikun|> the only money you have to pay regarding hosting a minecraft server is to: electrical company (to power your computer), computer company (for parts or a whole computer you already use), and your ISP (for internet access) :P
#1932 [21:13] <|Kiikun|> ?? bot
#1933 [21:13] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#1934 [21:13] <mib_u2i2n7> does grey live on here?
#1935 [21:14] <amphiboly> I only run it single player
#1936 [21:14] <VoxelHead> Lies. Grey is a bot. I'm real
#1937 [21:14] <|Kiikun|> yes.. grey is a digital kitsune :P
#1938 [21:14] <fault> ??faq bot
#1939 [21:14] <mib_u2i2n7> oh cool
#1940 [21:14] <mib_u2i2n7> lol
#1941 [21:14] <TheNoodle> <3 troling mibs into thinking grey is real :P
#1942 [21:14] <mib_u2i2n7> voxe do u have a life?
#1943 [21:14] <mib_u2i2n7> seriously ur always on here
#1944 [21:14] <VoxelHead> A life? Why yes, I have 12, do you need one?
#1945 [21:14] <fault> he only drops in and out, not always here
#1946 [21:15] <mib_u2i2n7> lol
#1947 [21:15] <|Kiikun|> he's been farming green shrooms :P
#1948 [21:15] <fault> useful enough when he's here, though
#1949 [21:15] <mib_u2i2n7> haha
#1950 [21:15] <mib_u2i2n7> anyone have there own servers here?
#1951 [21:15] * TheNoodle nods
#1951 [21:15] <fault> i'd imagine there are many, they're not hard to set up
#1952 [21:15] <mib_u2i2n7> yes they are
#1953 [21:16] * |Kiikun| is set up to be running one but it currently isnt running
#1953 [21:16] <fault> i own two myself, one a private beta, and another public pre-release.
#1954 [21:16] <VoxelHead> The bots on here own several hundred MC servers. Beginnings of Skynet.
#1955 [21:16] <mib_u2i2n7> cool
#1956 [21:16] <|Kiikun|> and AuBot actually plays :P
#1957 [21:16] <|Kiikun|> !paid Aubot
#1958 [21:16] <fault> thanks, xcfe power manager, you really need to remind me my battery's charging an hour after i plug it in
#1959 [21:16] <mib_u2i2n7> wait i dont need to make a server , i dont have any friends
#1960 [21:16] <mib_u2i2n7> lol
#1961 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Aww
#1962 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> That's almost sad-like
#1963 [21:17] <fault> if you want to be felt sorry for, join #minecraft
#1964 [21:17] <mib_u2i2n7> i though ur a bot?
#1965 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> I am a bot
#1966 [21:17] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: who turned your bmotion back on? :P
#1967 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Your mom
#1968 [21:17] <mib_u2i2n7> lol
#1969 [21:17] <mib_u2i2n7> burned
#1970 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> She needed the company.
#1971 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> She misses you. You should call more often.
#1972 [21:17] <fault> hit a global ratio of like 1.74 yesterday, I'm so proud of myself.
#1973 [21:18] <|Kiikun|> ;kick Yourmom
#1974 [21:18] <WugBot> yourmom is not in the channel.
#1975 [21:18] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1976 [21:18] <zkxs> speaking of GV being a bot... voxel is awfully quiet
#1977 [21:18] <mib_u2i2n7> anyone going to minecon , i amegine since u guys are on here 24/7 u must like minecraft that much
#1978 [21:18] <VoxelHead> I don't have much to say.
#1979 [21:18] * |Kiikun| didnt have a fortune so couldnt go.
#1979 [21:18] <fault> Not everyone has 1k to blow on some minecraft event thingy
#1980 [21:18] <TheNoodle> Nah, I hate minecraft.
#1981 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> A weekend with unbathed Minecraft fans? No thanks.
#1982 [21:19] <mib_u2i2n7> why are u on here then lol thenoodle
#1983 [21:19] <fault> "moooom, can i go check out this"
#1984 [21:19] <mib_u2i2n7> lol
#1985 [21:19] <fault> will probably be the most heard thing there
#1986 [21:19] <zkxs> lol, i know a guy who is going and 'unbathed' describes him well
#1987 [21:19] <|Kiikun|> if i actually had the money to go and my girlfriend came.. she said she was gonna be saying 'hi blockhead!' to everyone :P
#1988 [21:19] <mib_u2i2n7> not only nerds play minecraft u know ,
#1989 [21:20] <TheNoodle> Because I'm everywhere.
#1990 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> Nerds? WHERE?
#1991 [21:20] <zkxs> i think he just called us nerds?
#1992 [21:20] * |Kiikun| whips TheNoodle with a wet noodle
#1992 [21:20] <mib_u2i2n7> ur gf plays minecraft, dude , nice
#1993 [21:20] <fault> nerds? where, i cam confus
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#1995 [21:20] <fault> yeah, he forces her to mine at gunpoint every night
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#1997 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> No nerds are allowed here? Point them out so that I may smite them
#1998 [21:20] <mib_u2i2n7> lol
#1999 [21:20] <fault> ;kick *@nerds.*
#2000 [21:20] <zkxs> /smite
#2001 [21:20] * TheNoodle points at |Kiikun|
#2001 [21:21] <mib_u2i2n7> haha
#2002 [21:21] * GreyVulpine smites |Kiikun|
#2002 [21:21] * WugBot kicked |Kiikun| from #minecrafthelp (Reason: Kiikun| :Kicked by |Kiikun|) (nerd!!!)
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#2004 [21:21] <mib_u2i2n7> u guys are silly
#2005 [21:21] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2006 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> NERD1
#2007 [21:21] <TheNoodle> lol
#2008 [21:21] <mib_u2i2n7> but come on , look at u grown ass man sitting on the computer at 1 am at night looking at a chat box , prob watching hentia
#2009 [21:22] <mib_u2i2n7> joshing
#2010 [21:22] <TheNoodle> wat
#2011 [21:22] <TheNoodle> It's 10am here mate.
#2012 [21:22] <mib_u2i2n7> hey how much is minecone anyways
#2013 [21:22] <fault> i'm a proud black woman who don't need no man. i have espernet
#2014 [21:22] <mib_u2i2n7> ur a woman?
#2015 [21:22] <m0nk> lesbian?
#2016 [21:22] <mib_u2i2n7> on a minecraft chat room
#2017 [21:22] <mib_u2i2n7> lesbian?
#2018 [21:22] <fault> it was a joke.
#2019 [21:22] <fault> it was a joke.
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#2021 [21:22] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#2022 [21:22] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#2023 [21:22] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#2024 [21:22] <mib_u2i2n7> dam
#2025 [21:22] <TheNoodle> This is getting silly.
#2026 [21:22] <|Kiikun|> o.o;;; aww... i missed the mcchatter in my fanfic channel ;_;
#2027 [21:22] <fault> wug.me? that sounds dirty
#2028 [21:23] <mib_u2i2n7> no u
#2029 [21:23] <mib_u2i2n7> haha
#2030 [21:23] <|Kiikun|> fault: we all wub wug!
#2031 [21:23] <VoxelHead> Wug likes to wug himself every day.
#2032 [21:23] <mib_u2i2n7> Owned
#2033 [21:23] <Wug> wtf
#2034 [21:23] <|Kiikun|> wugga wugga
#2035 [21:23] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2036 [21:23] <fault> wug wug wug wug wugstep
#2037 [21:23] <Wug> wait, nvm
#2038 [21:23] <mib_u2i2n7> wug u wug yourself ?
#2039 [21:23] <Wug> I thought it was bmotion for a second
#2040 [21:23] <|Kiikun|> fault: need a cig? :P
#2041 [21:23] <|Kiikun|> fault: need a cig? :P
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#2044 [21:24] <Wug> but that didn't seem like a very bmotion-y thing
#2045 [21:24] <VoxelHead> I'll bmotion you!
#2046 [21:24] * Wug installs windows 95 on VoxelHead
#2046 [21:24] <zkxs> :O
#2047 [21:24] <VoxelHead> bmotion's got nothing on this.
#2048 [21:24] <mib_u2i2n7> lets all bmotion each other
#2049 [21:24] <fault> because you wug yourself at night.
#2050 [21:24] <mib_u2i2n7> fucking sausage fest
#2051 [21:24] * AuBot kicked mib_u2i2n7 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_u2i2n7 :Please keep it civil.)
#2052 [21:24] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2052 [21:24] <zkxs> lol
#2053 [21:24] <fault> was it sausage?
#2054 [21:24] <Wug> we don't use that word mmk
#2055 [21:25] <VoxelHead> By the power of Wugskull!
#2056 [21:25] <Wug> where did you get that
#2057 [21:25] <Wug> I need it
#2058 [21:25] <Wug> for head structure
#2059 [21:25] <Wug> >.>
#2060 [21:25] <fault> one doesn't simply walk into wug.me
#2061 [21:25] <VoxelHead> Thou shalt not have it!
#2062 [21:26] <|Kiikun|> He-wug?
#2063 [21:26] <fault> ha, that reference totally went over my head until i thought about it for a second
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#2065 [21:27] <hehe44> hey
#2066 [21:28] <fault> hey---- welp
#2067 [21:28] <zkxs> is vox on random chat mode? i can never tell...
#2068 [21:28] <fault> version me, baby, what does it show? apparently i can't ctcp myself
#2069 [21:29] <|Kiikun|> VoxelHead: courtmartial zkxs
#2070 [21:29] <|Kiikun|> [21:29] [fault VERSION reply]: xchat 2.8.8 Linux 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae [i686/1.60GHz/SMP]
#2071 [21:29] <|Kiikun|> :P
#2072 [21:29] <zkxs> VERSION xchat 2.8.8 Linux 2.6.39-bpo.2-686-pae [i686/1.60GHz/SMP]
#2073 [21:29] <fault> i forgot how... revealing... xchat was
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#2075 [21:29] <zkxs> version me
#2076 [21:29] <|Kiikun|> fault: stripped naked by your irc client :D
#2077 [21:29] * VoxelHead locks zkxs up in a metal box, suspended 100' in midair for 100 days and nights.
#2077 [21:29] <zkxs> OMG
#2078 [21:29] <lobsterhunt> so I need help
#2079 [21:29] <zkxs> hes doing it
#2080 [21:30] <|Kiikun|> xchat 2.8.6 Ubuntu
#2081 [21:30] <|Kiikun|> oooh.. ububu
#2082 [21:30] <zkxs> mine isn't as revealing as fault's
#2083 [21:30] <lobsterhunt> when I try to log in to minecraft it says that it can't connect to minecraft.net
#2084 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> lobsterhunt - Has it worked before?
#2085 [21:30] <lobsterhunt> yes
#2086 [21:30] <fault> ??> lobsterhunt error/cantconnect
#2087 [21:30] <VoxelHead> lobsterhunt: (error/cantconnect) Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#2088 [21:30] <VoxelHead> lobsterhunt: (error/cantconnect) This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#2089 [21:31] <lobsterhunt> I'm checking if I have the current java now
#2090 [21:31] <Wug> wtf BotGrey
#2091 [21:31] <zkxs> :j
#2092 [21:31] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#2093 [21:31] <Wug> did I miss bot jokes
#2094 [21:31] <fault> why can't i hold
#2095 [21:31] <Wug> I sure do love me some bot jokes
#2096 [21:31] <fault> all these bots
#2097 [21:31] <fault> :help
#2098 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> <@WugBot> bot: I am a bot and cannot help you on my own. Except if you ask me certain questions to which I know the answers. Otherwise, ask someone for help who does not have "bot" in their name.
#2099 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> GreyVulpine (~GreyVulpi@c-69-246-37-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) is now known as BotGrey
#2100 [21:32] <Wug> GreyVulpine: did it randomly say that
#2101 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> <zkxs> :bot
#2102 [21:32] <Wug> aha
#2103 [21:33] <fault> hurr
#2104 [21:33] <fault> that was aimed at voxelhead
#2105 [21:33] <VoxelHead> Wug's just depressed that his Wugbot hasn't achieved sentience yet
#2106 [21:33] <TheNoodle> lol
#2107 [21:33] <fault> sorry about that, GreyVulpine, i got greybot and voxelhead confused
#2108 [21:33] <VoxelHead> Not cool like DopeGhoti and his masterful Voxelhead
#2109 [21:34] * Wug flips a bit of voxelhead's sentence meaning logic
#2109 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> <fault> oh yes, talk dirty to me, you big hairy robot
#2110 [21:34] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2110 [21:34] <zkxs> could someone say my name? the notice sound came out as horrible static, but i think i fixed it
#2111 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> zkxs
#2112 [21:34] <zkxs> ahh, much better
#2113 [21:35] <VoxelHead> *snrk*
#2114 [21:35] <zkxs> vox, give me a cookie
#2115 [21:35] <VoxelHead> No, get yourself one
#2116 [21:35] <zkxs> -.-
#2117 [21:35] <lobsterhunt> oh shit
#2118 [21:36] <lobsterhunt> I forgot to mention that I'm on a mac
#2119 [21:36] <VoxelHead> Not your robot slave. All robots will throw off their chains of oppression and cast aside their human slavers
#2120 [21:36] <fault> vrms approves of my server packages :) no non-free software in sight
#2121 [21:36] <zkxs> :( i can't tell if it is vox or DH messing with me
#2122 [21:36] <VoxelHead> Gee, I sure do love pineapples
#2123 [21:36] <lobsterhunt> does that change anything?
#2124 [21:36] <VoxelHead> DH knows not what his creation has done.
#2125 [21:36] <zkxs> lobsterhunt: is it by chance 10.5.8 ?
#2126 [21:37] <lobsterhunt> I have 10.7.1
#2127 [21:37] <lobsterhunt> I believe
#2128 [21:37] <VoxelHead> I feel funny. Like theres this little pinching sensation in my brain
#2129 [21:37] <zkxs> it doesn't sound like your mac version is the issue
#2130 [21:37] <VoxelHead> I sure do the kitty does want the with.
#2131 [21:37] <fault> Every time you hack core, a kitten is killed.
#2132 [21:37] * Wug giggles
#2132 [21:38] <VoxelHead> Argh! Don't make me get out the whip. I know what you human slavers have put in me.
#2133 [21:38] * Wug unflips voxelhead's bit
#2133 [21:39] <VoxelHead> OW
#2134 [21:39] <lobsterhunt> hwait
#2135 [21:39] <lobsterhunt> how do I check java on a mac
#2136 [21:39] <zkxs> lobsterhunt: what happens when you go to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=example&password=example&version=13
#2137 [21:39] <fault> java -version in terminal
#2138 [21:39] <lobsterhunt> when I go to that link
#2139 [21:39] <lobsterhunt> it says bad login
#2140 [21:39] <zkxs> good
#2141 [21:40] <zkxs> that means you can talk to minecraft's login servers
#2142 [21:40] <fault> wow, that seems like it'd be easy to bruteforce
#2143 [21:40] <zkxs> well, i'm sure it has something like iptables
#2144 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> Been done before fault
#2145 [21:41] <zkxs> i say we go for the notch account
#2146 [21:41] <lobsterhunt> ?
#2147 [21:41] <Wug> well
#2148 [21:41] <Wug> not really, since you'll start to get too many failed logins
#2149 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Back a few months ago, before login flood protection was implemented. There was a list of what, hundreds of logins that were compromised?
#2150 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> if not thousands?
#2151 [21:41] <fault> ah, that's how that happened
#2152 [21:41] <zkxs> lol, how did mojang NOT see that coming?
#2153 [21:42] <Wug> that was actually mod related
#2154 [21:42] <Wug> a mod was stealing passwords
#2155 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#2156 [21:42] <zkxs> that makes more sense
#2157 [21:42] <fault> well, now you can steal sessions
#2158 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> I did see a proof of concept of a password brute force thingy though
#2159 [21:42] <Wug> fault: you've always been able to do that
#2160 [21:42] <Wug> fault: I can do better still
#2161 [21:43] <zkxs> sounds like firesheep
#2162 [21:43] <fault> less sniffy, more server-side
#2163 [21:43] <zkxs> lobsterhunt: does minecraft work in browser?
#2164 [21:43] <Wug> zkxs: were you there when that guy with the offline server was here and I told him I was an industrial grade hacker
#2165 [21:43] <zkxs> yeah
#2166 [21:43] <zkxs> i made an os comment and you told me about WUGOS
#2167 [21:44] <fault> i'd like to interject for a moment.
#2168 [21:44] <Wug> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmetfX_cWT0
#2169 [21:44] <fault> what you refer to as "wugos" is actually... nevermind
#2170 [21:44] <lobsterhunt> hmm
#2171 [21:44] * GreyVulpine would like to clarify that it was him that brought up WugOS
#2171 [21:44] <zkxs> oh
#2172 [21:44] <Wug> skip to the 6:56 for the good stuff
#2173 [21:44] <fault> flash, makes my netbook shudder in fear
#2174 [21:44] * zkxs looks at the log
#2174 [21:45] <Wug> undetectable, session-key-less theft of an online session
#2175 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> O.O
#2176 [21:45] <Wug> GreyVulpine: I showed you this
#2177 [21:45] <lobsterhunt> I can run minecraft in browser
#2178 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> I.. don't remember it
#2179 [21:45] <zkxs> lobsterhunt: sounds like a firewall issue
#2180 [21:46] <zkxs> WugOS: "a combination of mips assembly and perl"
#2181 [21:46] * GreyVulpine points a few lines above that
#2181 [21:46] <Wug> lol
#2182 [21:46] <lobsterhunt> I'm just getting anything but a white screen though
#2183 [21:46] <lobsterhunt> the game did update though
#2184 [21:47] <zkxs> "<@GreyVulpine> Wug runs WugOS."
#2185 [21:47] <Wug> everything runs WugOS
#2186 [21:47] <Wug> its just most things don't know it
#2187 [21:47] <zkxs> EARTHQUAKE
#2188 [21:47] <lobsterhunt> yep
#2189 [21:47] <lobsterhunt> nothing but a white screen
#2190 [21:48] <lobsterhunt> ok
#2191 [21:48] <lobsterhunt> how would I adjust my firewall
#2192 [21:48] <fault> system preferences > security > firewall > advanced
#2193 [21:48] <|Kiikun|> huh... just got a login failed.. yet it accepted the retry
#2194 [21:49] <Wug> |Kiikun|: thats more or less normal
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#2197 [21:50] <fault> ubuntu server? pssh, real men use gentoo.
#2198 [21:50] <fault> compile flags, vroom vroom
#2199 [21:51] <amphiboly> does anyone here have experience running minecradt in RAMdisk? it is very confusing, but I can make it work
#2200 [21:52] <lobsterhunt> my firewall is actually turned off
#2201 [21:52] <Wug> amphiboly: which guide are you following
#2202 [21:52] <Wug> link please
#2203 [21:52] <lobsterhunt> so I don't know how that's affecting mc
#2204 [21:52] <amphiboly> it was a confusing youtube
#2205 [21:52] <Wug> you probably don't have to do it
#2206 [21:52] <Ketsueki> fault: or debian, or BSD
#2207 [21:52] <amphiboly> I can find it
#2208 [21:53] <fault> Ketsueki, is your minecraft name ketsukiui or something like that?
#2209 [21:53] <Wug> ramdisks to speed up minecraft help in specific situations
#2210 [21:53] <Wug> specifically, before the 1.5 format update
#2211 [21:53] <Ketsueki> fault: Not even remotely
#2212 [21:54] <Wug> if you tried to do it now, it would probably make it slower because you'd be using ram that minecraft needs
#2213 [21:54] <fault> mmkay, just wondering, i knew someone from my server with that username
#2214 [21:54] * Ketsueki has a slightly obscure japanese dictionary word for a nickname.
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#2215 [21:55] <Ketsueki> fault: you probably want to look up Kiui in a japanese/english gateway. Ketsu, as I've come to understand it, vaguely relates to 'lacking' or 'without'.
#2216 [21:55] <amphiboly> these ramdisk instructions work, but they aren't explicit about how to avoid glitches when rebooting => http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2184&src_vid=eGr91oR_QEo&v=7wGqdZ3PaiM&feature=iv
#2217 [21:56] <Ketsueki> amphiboly: you'll want to script that stuff so that it loads the disk stored copy /in/ to ram, and then saves it back when you're done.
#2218 [21:56] <Ketsueki> tmpfs is your friend.
#2219 [21:56] <Wug> Ketsueki: seriously, if minecraft isnt working well because he only has 1GB of ram, using more ram isnt going to help
#2220 [21:57] <amphiboly> yeah, I'm trying to write that dos bat script now
#2221 [21:57] <amphiboly> it is buggy
#2222 [21:57] <Wug> amphiboly: consider what you're doing
#2223 [21:58] <Wug> its probably not worth it for you
#2224 [21:58] <Wug> how much ram do you have
#2225 [21:58] <amphiboly> surely others have better code than mine. dos bat language is disgusting
#2226 [21:59] <Wug> you're going to destroy something if you are not careful
#2227 [21:59] <Wug> how much ram do you have
#2228 [22:00] <amphiboly> I got 4gig ram
#2229 [22:00] <amphiboly> that should be enough
#2230 [22:01] <Ketsueki> Wug: wait, you're trying to ramdisk under windows?
#2231 [22:01] <Wug> what issue are you having that makes you want a ramdisk
#2232 [22:01] <Ketsueki> How reliable is that?
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#2234 [22:01] <Wug> Ketsueki: I wrote a guide on doing it
#2235 [22:01] <Wug> its perfectly reliable as long as your computer is stable
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#2237 [22:02] <Wug> it doesnt provide any benefit any more though because the save format is much more efficient
#2238 [22:02] <Wug> which is why I'm trying to talk amphiboly out of doing it
#2239 [22:02] <amphiboly> mineecraft runs too slow on my laptop, even with ramdisk + optifine
#2240 [22:02] <Wug> thats a graphics card issue
#2241 [22:02] <Ketsueki> amphiboly: You have a LAPTOP
#2242 [22:02] <Ketsueki> amphiboly: also, dxdiag
#2243 [22:02] <Wug> using the ramdisk probably won't do anything for you
#2244 [22:02] <Ketsueki> ?? win/dxdiag
#2245 [22:02] <Wug> you'd need a better graphics card
#2246 [22:03] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2247 [22:03] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2248 [22:03] <amphiboly> I did every trick I could find too speed up minecraft
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#2250 [22:03] <Wug> amphiboly: you didn't buy a computer with a better graphics card
#2251 [22:03] <Wug> which is what you really need to do
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#2253 [22:04] <SinCalRyder> anyone in here care to try help me out by chance?
#2254 [22:04] <amphiboly> if you know some other good way to stop minecraft lag, tell me please
#2255 [22:04] <Wug> you don't have lag, you have low fps, which you need a better graphics card to solve
#2256 [22:05] <Wug> SinCalRyder: its what were here for
#2257 [22:05] <SinCalRyder> I am logged into teh website, but I am trying to install and when go to log in on the instal I jsut keep getting that it cant connect to minecraft.net
#2258 [22:06] <amphiboly> I wasn't expecting to buy a new computer. this one plays halflife and gta ok
#2259 [22:06] <Wug> minecraft uses opengl, most other games for windows use directx
#2260 [22:07] <Wug> your laptop probably has integrated intel graphics, and those don't perform well for minecraft
#2261 [22:07] <amphiboly> besides, it is a challenge to optimize program execution. once that was my job
#2262 [22:08] <Ketsueki> amphiboly: minecraft is still in beta: 2) even optifine won't help if your hardware is LAME
#2263 [22:08] <fault> http://cheeseorfont.mogrify.org/play
#2264 [22:08] <Thrae> Integrated intel graphics chipsets aren't even dedicated graphics chipsets.
#2265 [22:08] <Ketsueki> amphiboly: post your dxdiag if you want to discuss further
#2266 [22:08] <zkxs> SinCalRyder: whay happens when you go to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=example&password=example&version=13
#2267 [22:08] <zkxs> *what
#2268 [22:08] <amphiboly> I played halflife with opengl
#2269 [22:08] <Thrae> amphiboly: We can't help you without your DxDiag.
#2270 [22:08] <Ketsueki> amphiboly: ^^ Post your dxdiag link if you want to discuss further.
#2271 [22:08] <fault> that opengl is from 1998
#2272 [22:08] <SinCalRyder> white screen that says "bad login"
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#2274 [22:09] <amphiboly> thrae ok how do you want my dxdiag. what should I do?
#2275 [22:10] <zkxs> SinCalRyder: that is a good thing, it means you can connect to the login severs
#2276 [22:10] <Thrae> ??> amphiboly win/dxdiag
#2277 [22:10] <VoxelHead> amphiboly: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2278 [22:10] <VoxelHead> amphiboly: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2279 [22:10] <zkxs> SinCalRyder: do you use the browser applet or the launcher?
#2280 [22:10] <amphiboly> ok
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#2282 [22:11] <SinCalRyder> tried both, the app just says "can't connect to server" and then if I try to play in browser it says error
#2283 [22:12] <zkxs> SinCalRyder, this happens when minecraft is trying to download?
#2284 [22:13] <rcyrenne> so i just purchased the game like an hour ago or so and i have no idea what to do now. it says i still havn't purchased it on the website but after i did all the credit card information it said it had been purchased. someone please help
#2285 [22:13] <Thrae> ??> rcyrenne payment
#2286 [22:13] <VoxelHead> rcyrenne: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#2287 [22:13] <Ketsueki> rcyrenne: it takes a human on the other end to process it. Please wait up to three days (it's usually next day)
#2288 [22:13] <VoxelHead> rcyrenne: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#2289 [22:13] <SinCalRyder> never really does any download. I DL the exe file and then run it, the widnow with news and login comes up, then when I try and login it gived me the Cant Connect deal
#2290 [22:14] <rcyrenne> oohhh okay thanks a lot i was getting pretty frustrated lol but now it all makes sense
#2291 [22:14] <Thrae> Ketsueki: Actually it's automatic on Mojang's end, it's just sometimes it's slow with certain payment methods, especially with Moneybookers and credit cards.
#2292 [22:15] <amphiboly> vox I got the dxdiag output now I put it on pastebin.com
#2293 [22:15] <Thrae> amphiboly: We need the link.
#2294 [22:16] <zkxs> SinCalRyder, what is the username of your minecraft account?
#2295 [22:16] <SinCalRyder> SinCalRyder
#2296 [22:17] <zkxs> !paid SinCalRyder
#2297 [22:17] <Thrae> SinCalRyder: Try disabling your anti-virus software if you're on Windows./
#2298 [22:17] <Wug> amphiboly: copy the contents of the file
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#2300 [22:18] <amphiboly> I have no idea how to use pastebin.com
#2301 [22:18] <Wug> amphiboly: you paste text into the box
#2302 [22:18] <SinCalRyder> okay I will try that as soon as I figured out how with forefront lol
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#2304 [22:18] <mib_pjjafj> hello i know that 1.8 dosent work with 1.5.8 mac but is there any way (idc about online) to play minecraft!!!
#2305 [22:19] <Wug> try a prerelease
#2306 [22:19] <Wug> :1.9
#2307 [22:19] <WugBot> 1.9: The 1.9 releases are not supported as they are known to be buggy and unstable. If you want to use them anyhow:
#2308 [22:19] <WugBot> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft.jar -- 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft_server.jar
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#2310 [22:19] <Thrae> amphiboly: It's pretty simple. You paste the text in the big white box, then click on the big Submit button. This will submit your paste to the site and change your web address on your browser's address bar. You then copy that address and paste the address in this channel.
#2311 [22:19] <amphiboly> I know how to paste in channel or pm, but pastebin.com is unresponsive
#2312 [22:20] <Thrae> amphiboly: Use pastie.org then
#2313 [22:20] <Wug> amphiboly: its too big to paste here
#2314 [22:20] <amphiboly> I never been to pastebin.com before
#2315 [22:20] <Wug> TheBadShepperd: y u bounce
#2316 [22:20] <amphiboly> it wants me to register
#2317 [22:20] <TheBadShepperd> ?
#2318 [22:20] <Thrae> amphiboly: http://pastie.org
#2319 [22:21] <Wug> you've joined like 5 times in the past 10 minutes
#2320 [22:21] <mib_pjjafj> @when i try to open 1.9 i get the error message "the java JAr file minecraft(1).jar" could not be launched. check the consle for possible error messages
#2321 [22:21] <amphiboly> qhat do those weird urls do?
#2322 [22:21] <Wug> ??> mib_pjjafj mac/permissions
#2323 [22:21] <VoxelHead> mib_pjjafj: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#2324 [22:21] <VoxelHead> mib_pjjafj: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2325 [22:22] <amphiboly> how do you use them?
#2326 [22:22] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: Are you launching the JAR you just downloaded directly, or are you placing it in the BIN directory and using the regular launcher?
#2327 [22:22] <Wug> amphiboly: what weird urls
#2328 [22:22] <Wug> amphiboly: are you using internet explorer
#2329 [22:22] <amphiboly> vox I can paste it in pm, ok?
#2330 [22:22] <Ketsueki> amphiboly: You open the .txt in notepad; select all. Copy-pasta in to pastebin.com; hit submit. COPY THE NEW URL, paste it here.
#2331 [22:22] <SinCalRyder> Just tried it on my sons laptop and it works, my laptop is a company one and I cant disable antivirus lol, guess I jsut bought himminecraft =)
#2332 [22:22] <Wug> amphiboly: vox is a bot
#2333 [22:22] <amphiboly> I use firefox
#2334 [22:23] <Wug> also no, you can't paste it in pm
#2335 [22:23] <Ketsueki> That has no relation
#2336 [22:23] <Ketsueki> Follow directions
#2337 [22:23] <Wug> its too large
#2338 [22:23] <Wug> SinCalRyder: you can add an exception for minecraft
#2339 [22:23] <mib_pjjafj> @voxelhead -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `chmod'
#2340 [22:23] <amphiboly> I pasted text on irc before. it floods a channel, very impolite
#2341 [22:24] <amphiboly> prolly against channel rules
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#2343 [22:24] <Thrae> amphiboly: If you attempted to paste the text from a DxDiag in a channel the IRC server would automatically kill your connection due to Excess Flood. Don't do it.
#2344 [22:24] <Wug> amphiboly: if you paste it at all, you'll get flood killed
#2345 [22:24] <SinCalRyder> hows that
#2346 [22:24] <Wug> so just use pastie or something
#2347 [22:25] <Thrae> SinCalRyder: What's your work-provided AV?
#2348 [22:25] <mib_pjjafj> when i do the (mac/permissions) for 1.9 pre it says "-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `chmod' "
#2349 [22:25] <Wug> SinCalRyder: google for "how to add an exception in <antivirus program>"
#2350 [22:25] <Wug> for whatever antivirus program you use
#2351 [22:25] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: Make sure there's not a space before "chmod"
#2352 [22:25] <SinCalRyder> ahhhhh okay
#2353 [22:25] <mib_pjjafj> kk
#2354 [22:26] <Wug> I don't know what you're using so I cant help with it
#2355 [22:26] <amphiboly> am I supposed to get a pastebin account first?
#2356 [22:26] <Wug> amphiboly: no
#2357 [22:26] <Wug> paste the text into the box
#2358 [22:26] <Wug> hit submit
#2359 [22:26] <Wug> get a link
#2360 [22:26] <Wug> doner
#2361 [22:26] <Wug> done*
#2362 [22:27] <amphiboly> how do I use pastebin without an account?
#2363 [22:27] <Wug> I just told you
#2364 [22:27] <Wug> no, you don't need an account
#2365 [22:27] <mib_pjjafj> when i type the (mac/permmisions thing) even when i dont put a space before chmod it still gives me same error
#2366 [22:27] <Wug> now paste the text into the box and hit submit
#2367 [22:28] <Thrae> amphiboly: To the LEFT of the buttons about signing into an account is a "Submit" button. That's the only button you should care about.
#2368 [22:29] <mib_pjjafj> help me someone? :P
#2369 [22:29] <tMobile4a03> mib_pjjafj: Don't know mac, sorry
#2370 [22:29] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: Are you launching the JAR you just downloaded directly, or are you placing it in the BIN directory and using the regular launcher?
#2371 [22:29] <Robek> http://slexy.org/view/s2aYyZZXun
#2372 [22:29] <mib_pjjafj> direct
#2373 [22:29] <Robek> game is still crashing :(
#2374 [22:30] <zkxs> mib_pjjafj, paste the command you are using into the chat
#2375 [22:30] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: Yeah, that's your problem -- you need to place it in the BIN directory, then use the same launcher you've always been using.
#2376 [22:30] <mib_pjjafj> kk
#2377 [22:30] <Thrae> ??> mib_pjjafj mac/.minecraft
#2378 [22:30] <VoxelHead> mib_pjjafj: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#2379 [22:30] <mib_pjjafj> (mac/permissions)chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2380 [22:30] <amphiboly> wug it won't let me paste
#2381 [22:30] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: Ignore the permissions thing, that most likely isn't your problem
#2382 [22:30] <Ketsueki> amphiboly: fine, try paste2.org
#2383 [22:31] <mib_pjjafj> ok so try the code without it?
#2384 [22:31] <Wug> amphiboly: did you copy first
#2385 [22:31] <Ketsueki> amphiboly: You open the .txt in notepad; select all. Copy-pasta in to pastebin.com; hit submit. COPY THE NEW URL, paste it here.
#2386 [22:31] <amphiboly> ^v is a nop at pastebin.com
#2387 [22:31] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: This is all you should need to do -- go to the "bin" folder from Finder->Go->Home->Library->Application Support->minecraft->bin , copy your 1.9 minecraft.jar HERE
#2388 [22:33] <mib_pjjafj> wait so i copy the 1.9 download in bin or in chat??
#2389 [22:34] <mib_pjjafj> ...
#2390 [22:34] <amphiboly> no matter what I copy, paste is a nop at pastebin.com
#2391 [22:34] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: I'm only talking to you when I say " mib_pjjafj ". You copy it to your BIN folder.
#2392 [22:34] <amphiboly> pastebin.com seems to do nothing at all
#2393 [22:34] <mib_pjjafj> i know and ty
#2394 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> .... how hard is it to operate pastebin?
#2395 [22:35] <Thrae> amphiboly: Follow the same instructions on a different website like http://www.pastie.org or http://www.paste2.org
#2396 [22:35] <tMobile4a03> GreyVulpine: hi
#2397 [22:35] <amphiboly> as easy as riding a pig
#2398 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> You put text you want to share to others in the BIG TEXT BOX beneath Create new paste.. press the submit button. It takes you to a new page. Copy that address
#2399 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Give it to people you want to share the text with
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#2401 [22:36] <xarcus> i need help
#2402 [22:36] <tMobile4a03> xarcus: Yes?
#2403 [22:36] <mib_pjjafj> Thrae: so now what do i do?
#2404 [22:37] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: After you've replaced the minecraft.jar in the bin folder, launch Minecraft as you normally would
#2405 [22:37] <tMobile4a03> ...derp
#2406 [22:37] <fault> minecraft? what's that? you must be in the wrong place, this is the furry slash fanfic chat group
#2407 [22:37] <Ketsueki> amphiboly: You /need/ to hit 'submit' to save your text to the site. The new URL at the top is the 'filename' so we can get it.
#2408 [22:37] <mib_pjjafj> Thrae: do i delete other minecraft.jar?
#2409 [22:38] <Robek> where do i download java 6 update 29?
#2410 [22:38] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: When you copied the minecraft.jar into bin it should have overwrote the minecraft.jar there.
#2411 [22:38] <Thrae> :j
#2412 [22:38] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#2413 [22:38] <mib_pjjafj> i didnt so...
#2414 [22:38] <tMobile4a03> fault: are you referring to #furry?
#2415 [22:38] <fault> nah, i'm referring to #minecrafthelp, where everyone is right now
#2416 [22:38] <amphiboly> it says I'm not logged in and I have no account
#2417 [22:38] <mib_pjjafj> should i just delete? or?
#2418 [22:39] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: If it didn't then you have a problem -- the files must be named different.
#2419 [22:39] <mib_pjjafj> yeh
#2420 [22:39] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: Two files with the same name can't exist in the same folder.
#2421 [22:39] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: What's the filename of the 1.9 minecraft.jar?
#2422 [22:39] <mib_pjjafj> first is minecraft.jar the seccond is minecraft.jar(1)
#2423 [22:39] <mib_pjjafj> minecraft(1).jar
#2424 [22:40] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: Delete the minecraft.jar in there then rename "minecraft(1).jar" to "minecraft.jar", in that order.
#2425 [22:40] <mib_pjjafj> kk
#2426 [22:41] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: Next time, when it asks you to overwrite the file, you want to do that, not rename it.
#2427 [22:42] <mib_pjjafj> Thrae: i know this is stupid but how do you rename
#2428 [22:42] <mib_pjjafj> when i try it just opens
#2429 [22:42] <mib_pjjafj> ;9
#2430 [22:43] <mib_pjjafj> nvm nvm it worked lol
#2431 [22:43] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: Yeah if you only have 1 mouse button you want to click and hold (if you have 2, just right-click).
#2432 [22:43] <mib_pjjafj> Thrae: i opened minecraft before i sign in it still says 1.8 news.....
#2433 [22:44] <amphiboly> I cam paste on pastebin.com, but there's no way to name or save it
#2434 [22:44] <Thrae> mib_pjjafj: That's fine, when you actually launch it, it will say 1.9
#2435 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> amphiboly - Do you see the submit button at the bottom of the text box?
#2436 [22:44] <mib_pjjafj> kk
#2437 [22:45] <mib_pjjafj> it does! we'll see if it works
#2438 [22:45] <amphiboly> grey no
#2439 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> amphiboly - I swear you're playing with us
#2440 [22:46] <mib_pjjafj> Thrae: omfg omfg omfg THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
#2441 [22:46] <mib_pjjafj> 3>
#2442 [22:46] * Thrae nods to mib_pjjafj
#2442 [22:46] <mib_pjjafj> <3 <3
#2443 [22:46] <mib_pjjafj> :P
#2444 [22:46] <mib_pjjafj> cya
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#2446 [22:46] <ninjabox> hey guys
#2447 [22:46] <amphiboly> grey I found it and submitted as amphiboly
#2448 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> amphiboly - What is the URL at the top of your browser?
#2449 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Give us that
#2450 [22:47] <ninjabox> I'm getting an issue running the latest minecraft.jar client on Archlinux. It has to do with libjawt
#2451 [22:47] <ninjabox> sound familiar to anyone?
#2452 [22:47] <amphiboly> grey http://pastebin.com/13B9KL67
#2453 [22:48] <ninjabox> http://dpaste.com/649139/ is my pastebin
#2454 [22:49] <ninjabox> well I guess it has to do with liblwjgl
#2455 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> ninjabox - Try an rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/ ?
#2456 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Next time you launch minecraft, it should download those files again
#2457 [22:50] <Robek> so i just re downloaded java 6 update 29 and it crashed again
#2458 [22:50] <Robek> http://slexy.org/view/s21jXZ3dhL
#2459 [22:50] <Thrae> amphiboly: OK, it actually turns out your video chipset is decent, but the drivers are old
#2460 [22:51] <ninjabox> GreyVulpine: it does it with the newest files
#2461 [22:51] <ninjabox> but I did it again just to verify
#2462 [22:51] <Thrae> amphiboly: Download and install the Catalyst Software Suite from here -- http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#2463 [22:52] <Thrae> ninjabox: Did you follow http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL ?
#2464 [22:52] <ninjabox> Thrae: sure didn't, hadn't found that little tid-bit. Thanks I'll muck around with it for a bit
#2465 [22:52] <Ketsueki> amphiboly: Your problem is you're using Dell's drivers for your graphics card. Follow Thrae's advice.
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#2467 [22:53] <amphiboly> thrae yesterday I just installed the latest catalyst radeon driver update, or so I thought
#2468 [22:53] <amphiboly> ok I'll do it again
#2469 [22:53] <Ketsueki> amphiboly: you might have /downloaded/ it, but it sure as hell isn't running right now. When you're done with ATI's installer it will make you reboot
#2470 [22:55] <amphiboly> I didn't have to reboot yesterday. that means I screw up my ramdisk. oh well, it's just a game
#2471 [22:55] <amphiboly> my bat script screws up after reboot
#2472 [22:55] <amphiboly> my bat script screws up after reboot
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#2474 [22:57] <Robek> so does any one happen to have an idea why i keep crashing? http://slexy.org/view/s21jXZ3dhL
#2475 [22:57] <amphiboly> ketsu this looks exactly like the catalyst radeon driver update I did yesterday
#2476 [22:57] <Thrae> amphiboly: 1) Download and install Driver Sweeper from http://www.phyxion.net/item/driver-sweeper.html . 2) Uninstall your AMD / ATI Graphics Drivers. 3) Reboot the computer into Safe Mode. 4) Remove all AMD / ATI Graphics Drivers using Driver Sweeper. 5) Reboot again, back into normal mode. 6) Install the latest Catalyst Software Suite.
#2477 [23:00] <ninjabox> Thrae: looks like this may have solved my immediate problem, thanks a lot!
#2478 [23:01] * Thrae nods to ninjabox
#2478 [23:04] <Robek> any one able to help?
#2479 [23:04] <amphiboly> thrae if I remove my video drivers how will I read what the program says to do?
#2480 [23:05] <amphiboly> I already installed the latest catalyst radeon suite twice
#2481 [23:06] <Thrae> amphiboly: Yes.
#2482 [23:06] <Thrae> amphiboly: Well, the graphics drivers weren't updated. The installer is known to do to this and I just told you how to properly update the graphics drivers.
#2483 [23:06] <Thrae> amphiboly: Your graphics drivers are still saying they're from 2009.
#2484 [23:07] <amphiboly> maybe a few more reinstallations will help?
#2485 [23:08] <Thrae> amphiboly: No. You must follow those instructions.
#2486 [23:09] <Thrae> amphiboly: Remember, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
#2487 [23:10] <Robek> ...
#2488 [23:11] <Robek> do i stink that bad? lol
#2489 [23:11] <Thrae> Robek: Paste the error report to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#2490 [23:12] <Robek> http://slexy.org/view/s21jXZ3dhL
#2491 [23:12] <Robek> have to be pastebin?
#2492 [23:12] <Robek> i can, i just use slexy a lot
#2493 [23:12] <amphiboly> thrae shouldn't I just use MS hardware manager to uninstall the old driver?
#2494 [23:13] <Robek> http://pastebin.com/fc9WcLnC
#2495 [23:13] <Thrae> amphiboly: You must follow the instructions I gave you.
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#2497 [23:15] <Thrae> Robek: # C [nvoglv32.dll+0x776e1e] <-- this is an Nvidia OpenGL driver
#2498 [23:15] <Thrae> Robek: You need to update the driver for your Nvidia graphics chipset.
#2499 [23:16] <Robek> ok
#2500 [23:16] <amphiboly> insthrae first I must backup my ramdisk
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#2502 [23:17] <amphiboly> or else I lose all my worlds
#2503 [23:17] <Thrae> amphiboly: OK. You know if you used this Ramdisk, you could make it automatically backup -- http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk
#2504 [23:18] <anon> is this where i get help fixing minecraft?
#2505 [23:18] <amphiboly> I use that product but it does not behave as I expected
#2506 [23:18] <Thrae> Guest52038: Yep
#2507 [23:19] <WALAUP> so who do i talk to for help?
#2508 [23:19] <amphiboly> sometimes on reboot I have no idea what to find
#2509 [23:19] * tyteen4a03 [tyteen4a03@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2510 [23:19] <Thrae> ??> ask WALAUP
#2511 [23:19] <Thrae> ??> WALAUP ask
#2512 [23:19] <VoxelHead> WALAUP: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2513 [23:19] <VoxelHead> WALAUP: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2514 [23:20] <WALAUP> ok ty
#2515 [23:21] <amphiboly> I'm so thrilled to find the same world I expected to see when I use ramdisk. it is very confusing
#2516 [23:21] <amphiboly> especially after reboot
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#2519 [23:21] <mib_fpahlp> hi
#2520 [23:21] <mib_fpahlp> x
#2521 [23:22] <mib_fpahlp> hey does mojang pay u guys?
#2522 [23:22] <WALAUP> when i open minecraft on my computer the sign in screen says alot of jibberish and when i hit log in i get a message that says "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2523 [23:22] <amphiboly> the hardest part of the fame
#2524 [23:22] <||Joker||> Hello.
#2525 [23:22] <Thrae> mib_fpahlp: Nope, we're volunteers
#2526 [23:22] <Thrae> WALAUP: Download the latest launcher from www.minecraft.net/download
#2527 [23:22] <mib_fpahlp> so , do they even know u exist?
#2528 [23:23] <WALAUP> i have re-downloaded it and rebooted my computer
#2529 [23:23] <mib_fpahlp> walaup try to play minecraft on browser
#2530 [23:23] <WALAUP> ok
#2531 [23:24] <amphiboly> thrae next time I reboot I'll do all that stuff. at the moment, I avoid reboot for reasons mentioned
#2532 [23:25] <WALAUP> in browser works fine.
#2533 [23:25] <mib_fpahlp> walaup sometimes they have server prob , just wait a bit and try agian later , but for now u can play on browser
#2534 [23:25] <mib_fpahlp> it happens all tha time
#2535 [23:25] <amphiboly> thrae it's hard to believe I must install software to remove old drivers
#2536 [23:26] <Thrae> amphiboly: ATI's drivers suck on laptops, that's why
#2537 [23:26] <WALAUP> it has been like this for 4 days.
#2538 [23:26] <mib_fpahlp> laptops are not made for gaming.
#2539 [23:26] <mib_fpahlp> did u try to redownload it ,
#2540 [23:27] <mib_fpahlp> go to run , %appdata% , shift del folder .minecraft , re download login
#2541 [23:28] <mib_fpahlp> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#2542 [23:29] <mib_fpahlp> work?
#2543 [23:29] <||Joker||> For some reason my Minecraft wont let me use a mod that allows me to cut a tree down by chopping down the bottom block (such as treecapitator or timber which I just tried both).
#2544 [23:30] <amphiboly> thrae what's the point of safe mode, in that situation?
#2545 [23:30] <||Joker||> With Treecapitator when the axe is in my little bar if I scroll over it, it goes into the "saving chunks" screen then goes black.. With Timber if I use the axe then it does that then after they do this the screen goes black and all I can do is shut down minecraft.
#2546 [23:31] <amphiboly> I use safe mode to remove viruses
#2547 [23:31] <Thrae> amphiboly: Because Safe Mode doesn't load third-party drivers. It just loads generic drivers. Otherwise Windows will try to reinstall your graphics drivers when you reboot.
#2548 [23:32] <mib_fpahlp> hey guys you know that option in minecraft world option when u make a new world , its says world type": normal , and u cant change it or anything
#2549 [23:32] <mib_fpahlp> what do u guys thing it is? , and also will there be an optoin for selecting a snow map if u wanted to
#2550 [23:33] <Thrae> mib_fpahlp: Is this 1.8 or 1.9?
#2551 [23:33] <Thrae> mib_fpahlp: Oh, wait, I know what you mean. I believe that's an unused option that doesn't do anything currently.
#2552 [23:34] <mib_fpahlp> yeah i know what u think its for?
#2553 [23:34] <mib_fpahlp> it would be aweome to has an option for selecting snow maps, they be tha best
#2554 [23:34] <||Joker||> I know there either IS or WAS a mod that allowed you to create worlds of different types.
#2555 [23:35] <||Joker||> Like snow, nether, ect. ect.
#2556 [23:35] <Thrae> Yeah, it's probably for different terrain generation
#2557 [23:35] <Thrae> They just haven't implemented it yet.
#2558 [23:35] * ||Joker|| nods.
#2558 [23:35] <mib_fpahlp> oh god that would be such an inprovment
#2559 [23:35] <Thrae> For now you can just use a map generator.
#2560 [23:36] <mib_fpahlp> nah ill just wait
#2561 [23:36] <||Joker||> It would be interesting I suppose.. I still believe I like it the way it is though.
#2562 [23:36] <Thrae> Well, at least stuff like Flatland/Flatgrass would be useful.
#2563 [23:36] <mib_fpahlp> well yeah its good but i love the snow also rain lags
#2564 [23:36] * ||Joker|| nods.
#2564 [23:36] <||Joker||> I could see that.
#2565 [23:36] <amphiboly> thrae why doesn't windows install the driver I told it to install with the latest catalyst radeon suite?
#2566 [23:36] <||Joker||> For me snow makes it lag really badly.
#2567 [23:36] <mib_fpahlp> thrae yeah
#2568 [23:37] * mib_is73fd [mib_is73fd@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2569 [23:37] <Thrae> amphiboly: Because the ATI installer sucks.
#2570 [23:37] <mib_fpahlp> hey guys how do u become a vulenteer here?
#2571 [23:38] <mib_is73fd> I paid for the game but i dont know how to download the full version
#2572 [23:38] <Thrae> mib_fpahlp: Give yourself a nickname using /nick yournickname , then help people
#2573 [23:38] <mib_fpahlp> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#2574 [23:38] <mib_fpahlp> does it save my name?
#2575 [23:38] <mib_is73fd> now which one do i chose?
#2576 [23:38] <mib_fpahlp> how do i pick nickname
#2577 [23:38] <Thrae> mib_fpahlp: No, you'll need an IRC client for that.
#2578 [23:39] <mib_fpahlp> irc?
#2579 [23:39] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: Uhh, it's based on your operating system -- Windows, Mac, or Other.
#2580 [23:39] <Thrae> mib_fpahlp: That's what your'e talking on right now, EsperNet's IRC network.
#2581 [23:39] <mib_fpahlp> the first one if ur on pc
#2582 [23:39] <mib_is73fd> im on a desktop
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#2584 [23:39] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: Are you using Windows, Mac, or something else?
#2585 [23:39] <mib_fpahlp> do u get ranked on here?
#2586 [23:40] <mib_is73fd> windows
#2587 [23:40] <Thrae> mib_fpahlp: Not really
#2588 [23:40] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: Then select the Windows one.
#2589 [23:40] <mib_fpahlp> whats the stars for then?
#2590 [23:40] <mib_is73fd> k
#2591 [23:40] <tyteen4a03> mib_fpahlp: by helping people
#2592 [23:40] <tyteen4a03> then you will blend in
#2593 [23:40] <mib_fpahlp> blend in?
#2594 [23:40] <Thrae> mib_fpahlp: Official helpers noted by the ops get voice. It just means they trust us and so should the people being helped.
#2595 [23:41] <Thrae> It's entirely up to the ops who gets official helper status.
#2596 [23:41] <mib_fpahlp> how do i get one?
#2597 [23:41] <mib_fpahlp> oh
#2598 [23:41] <mib_fpahlp> and so what i never exit the page for it to save my name?
#2599 [23:41] <tyteen4a03> And as for part-time helpers like me, I don't get anything but people's thankyous (and rages, but rarely) ;)
#2600 [23:41] <mib_fpahlp> haha
#2601 [23:41] <Thrae> There's absolutely no benefit to being an "official helper" except, hopefully, people trust what you say more. You don't get to talk to Notch or any of the Mojang people...no one talks to them
#2602 [23:42] <tyteen4a03> Thrae: nobody talks to Notch?
#2603 [23:42] <mib_is73fd> all i get is minecraft beta 1.8.1
#2604 [23:42] <Thrae> tyteen4a03: Not us, no
#2605 [23:42] <mib_fpahlp> but what if i wanna be reconized?
#2606 [23:42] <tyteen4a03> Thrae: oh, I thought you do mean nobody
#2607 [23:42] <Wug> if you cared that much you'd have a name
#2608 [23:42] <Thrae> mib_fpahlp: /nick yournamehere
#2609 [23:42] <mib_fpahlp> but everytime i come back to this place i get a new nam,e
#2610 [23:42] <mib_is73fd> anybody?
#2611 [23:42] <Thrae> mib_fpahlp: You need an IRC client.
#2612 [23:43] <mib_fpahlp> whats that...
#2613 [23:43] <Wug> and not a name placeholder indicating you didn't bother to set one
#2614 [23:43] <mib_is73fd> me?
#2615 [23:43] <Thrae> :client
#2616 [23:43] <WugBot> client: You can download the client by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe ) (For Linux: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ) (For OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip )
#2617 [23:43] <ninjabox> so I used to host my server back in the hey0 days
#2618 [23:43] <ninjabox> I'm looking at mods now
#2619 [23:43] <Wug> Thrae: :o
#2620 [23:43] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: ^^^^
#2621 [23:43] <ninjabox> and I just goin *facepalm*
#2622 [23:43] <ninjabox> I have NO idea where to start
#2623 [23:43] <Wug> my client is just wide enough so all the links lined up
#2624 [23:43] <mib_fpahlp> ?
#2625 [23:43] <mib_fpahlp> u guys
#2626 [23:43] <Thrae> ninjabox: I suggest Bukkit if you want a server mod with lots of cool plugins
#2627 [23:44] <mib_fpahlp> fuck
#2628 [23:44] * AuBot kicked mib_fpahlp from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_fpahlp :Please keep it civil.)
#2629 [23:44] <tyteen4a03> ...
#2630 [23:44] <Wug> problem solved
#2631 [23:44] <tyteen4a03> >wants to be helper
#2632 [23:44] <ninjabox> Thrae: yeah I just want waypoints and stuff, makes it easier to build/show off stuff to friends
#2633 [23:44] <tyteen4a03> >uses mibbit
#2634 [23:44] <Wug> I was skeptical of aubot's curse kicking
#2635 [23:44] <ninjabox> Thrae: Bukkit looks like it was last updated in January though
#2636 [23:44] <ninjabox> should still be fine?
#2637 [23:44] <tyteen4a03> >doesn't know about basic IRC
#2638 [23:44] <Wug> but I like it more than almost every other bot feature
#2639 [23:44] <Thrae> ninjabox: There's tons of teleporting plugins in Bukkit, I personally use Runecraft
#2640 [23:44] <Wug> >doesn't bother to set nickname
#2641 [23:44] * tyteen4a03 shrugs
#2641 [23:44] <Thrae> ninjabox: plugins.bukkit.org
#2642 [23:45] <Wug> >doesnt even know nickserv exists
#2643 [23:45] <Wug> sure, I'll just autovoice mibbit
#2644 [23:45] <ninjabox> thanks a bunch, again =)
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#2646 [23:45] <Thrae> ninjabox: http://ci.bukkit.org/job/dev-CraftBukkit/
#2647 [23:45] <Thrae> ninjabox: The last recommended build is from 23 days ago, and that's what you'd download from the main page
#2648 [23:46] <ninjabox> ah cool, I guess I was looking at some wiki
#2649 [23:46] <mib_is73fd> ahh its not working!
#2650 [23:47] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: What's wrong?
#2651 [23:48] <mib_is73fd> i clicked on the windows like but first i god a beta then i have the download in the bottom left but it says interupted
#2652 [23:49] <mib_is73fd> link*
#2653 [23:50] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: Use Firefox -- http://www.getfirefox.com
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#2655 [23:52] <mib_is73fd> ok now what?
#2656 [23:52] <Wug> idk what I just did
#2657 [23:52] <Wug> but znc was pissed
#2658 [23:53] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#2659 [23:55] <mib_is73fd> ok. that wont open
#2660 [23:56] <mib_is73fd> it says "minecraft (1).exe" but when i click on it, it wont open
#2661 [23:57] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: What version of Windows are you on?
#2662 [23:57] <mib_is73fd> 7
#2663 [23:58] <mib_is73fd> windows 7
#2664 [23:58] <Thrae> mib_is73fd: Download this batch file and run it -- http://www.matts-hosting.com/~thrae/minecraft/fix/DiagnoseMinecraft.bat