#1 [00:01] <phanni> i even switched ti windows firewall and added it there and it still wont work.. do i have to wait for legit version to play?
#2 [00:01] <phanni> aka when it comes out of beta
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#4 [00:04] <lemon-rev> you should not have to wait
#5 [00:04] <lemon-rev> does your username have a ! in it, ie the computer login name ?
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#7 [00:05] <phanni> nope it does not its the same as this one for minecraft
#8 [00:06] <phanni> nor for my pc when i turn it on if that's wha tu mean
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#10 [00:07] <lemon-rev> yea basicly when you turn your computer on sometimes theres a login screen
#11 [00:07] <lemon-rev> but np
#12 [00:07] <lemon-rev> phanni can you play via broswer yet ?
#13 [00:07] <phanni> yep i can, still wierd though that i cant play on the desktop
#14 [00:08] <lemon-rev> hm
#15 [00:08] <lemon-rev> ok
#16 [00:08] <phanni> whats notch's email xD
#17 [00:08] <lemon-rev> not direct but you could facebook or twiiter him
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#19 [00:09] <phanni> i was joking but i guess why not...
#20 [00:10] <phanni> ty
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#27 [00:20] <huddler> Hello
#28 [00:20] <huddler> I need help with my minecraf
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#30 [00:27] <mib_79qsik> minecraft should be on http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/
#31 [00:27] <mib_79qsik> hey when is minecon by the way ?
#32 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> nov 18-19
#33 [00:28] <mib_79qsik> what are they even going to do? play minecraft ? lol
#34 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> What do people do at conventions?
#35 [00:28] <mib_79qsik> talk about the future of the game and shit, idk ...
#36 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> Meet and greet, Notch will give a speech or five. They'll release minecraft 1.0
#37 [00:28] <mib_79qsik> but i dont see it with minecraft idk
#38 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> Dinner with honored guests.
#39 [00:28] <mib_79qsik> witch they all payed like 100 bucks
#40 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> They'll perhaps showcase minecraft on different devices, iOS, android, xbox, etc
#41 [00:29] <mib_79qsik> hmm , thats pretty good i guess
#42 [00:29] <mib_79qsik> ios?
#43 [00:29] <mib_79qsik> what the hells
#44 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> There's plenty to do, minecraft related
#45 [00:29] * GreyVulpine nods
#45 [00:29] <mib_79qsik> hmm
#46 [00:29] <mib_79qsik> i c , u going?
#47 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> Nope. Don't have the time or money
#48 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> It's also sold out, so.
#49 [00:30] <mib_79qsik> u follow any youtubers playing minecraft , there all going
#50 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Nah, I don't follow any of those.
#51 [00:30] <mib_79qsik> like , seananas , bluexphose , idk capitansparkles or xnova
#52 [00:30] * GreyVulpine shakes
#52 [00:30] <mib_79qsik> hmm
#53 [00:31] <mib_79qsik> wel i used to watch those like all day
#54 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> I'm just here to help out others, I don't really do any of the youtube/let'splay/media stuff
#55 [00:31] <mib_79qsik> do u even play minecraft?
#56 [00:31] <mib_79qsik> lol
#57 [00:31] * GreyVulpine nods
#57 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Mojang keeps us busy, we're listed under the support section of minecraft's website
#58 [00:31] <mib_79qsik> nice, what u think the final version will look like? , also will they keep updating it or is there going to be minecraft 2?
#59 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> They'll definitely keep updating it.
#60 [00:32] <mib_79qsik> yeah i noticed hat
#61 [00:32] <mib_79qsik> that(
#62 [00:32] <mib_79qsik> *
#63 [00:32] <mib_79qsik> yeah , u know i wish it was more challanging to survive though , like mosters can beak through blocks or something they sould make one like that
#64 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Well, dragons have been announced. Notch has recently posted that he's finished with the AI for dragons
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#66 [00:33] <mib_79qsik> like a mode, like survival , creative hardcore, they should make one thats acually requires some survavol
#67 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> There's also plenty of mods out there if you're not satisfied with how vanilla's developing
#68 [00:34] <mib_79qsik> nah
#69 [00:34] <mib_79qsik> what u mean os?
#70 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> OS? operating system?
#71 [00:34] <mib_79qsik> oh nine i mean , what u think 1.0 will look like?
#72 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Pretty much what you see now, only with some additional features.
#73 [00:35] <mib_79qsik> hey has u ever went to a convention befo?
#74 [00:35] <mib_79qsik> liek wat?
#75 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> See: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_features
#76 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> This is what's been out in the 1.9 pre-releases
#77 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> And yes, I've been to a convention before. Though, this is minecraft's first
#78 [00:36] <mib_79qsik> i know everything there is to know about 1.9 man i do research
#79 [00:36] <mib_79qsik> oh snap , u nerd
#80 [00:37] * GreyVulpine shrugs.
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#81 [00:37] <mib_79qsik> did u wear a wizrd costume ?
#82 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Um, no.
#83 [00:37] <fido7154> I have been trying to connect for 3 days, no dice
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#85 [00:38] <fido7154> any thoughts?
#86 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> Trying to connect how?
#87 [00:38] <fido7154> I bought the game and I can't even do an initial connect to the servers
#88 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> What error(s) do you get?
#89 [00:39] <mib_79qsik> yeah what erroe(s)
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#91 [00:39] <mib_79qsik> : )
#92 [00:39] <fido7154> Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#93 [00:39] <mib_79qsik> omg dude u were here yesterday i told u what the fok to do
#94 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Time and date looks correct..
#95 [00:40] <fido7154> And there's no support number
#96 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Has it ever worked before?
#97 [00:40] <fido7154> No this is my first time
#98 [00:40] <mib_79qsik> i know what to do
#99 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#100 [00:40] <mib_79qsik> i KNow what to dooo
#101 [00:40] <fido7154> Never did this IRC before
#102 [00:40] <fido7154> win 7 Prem
#103 [00:40] <mib_79qsik> shut up grey
#104 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Don't tell me to shut up.
#105 [00:40] <mib_79qsik> i knows whats to do
#106 [00:40] <mib_79qsik> i didnt
#107 [00:40] <mib_79qsik> i said grey not greyvilpine
#108 [00:40] <mib_79qsik> spaz
#109 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - Does your windows username happen to have a ! mark in it?
#110 [00:41] <fido7154> no
#111 [00:41] <mib_79qsik> fido7154 open minecraft
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#113 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - Could you please pull up your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#114 [00:41] <fido7154> open
#115 [00:41] <mib_79qsik> click on options
#116 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> mib_79qsik - Force update does nothing for him
#117 [00:42] <mib_79qsik> no
#118 [00:42] <mib_79qsik> not that
#119 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> His client can't connect to minecraft
#120 [00:42] <mib_79qsik> click on file location
#121 [00:42] <fido7154> don't have a start menu, it won't connect and reports it hasn't downloaded
#122 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> Also does nothing for him, he has no files downloaded
#123 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - In your search bar, type in: cmd
#124 [00:42] <mib_79qsik> well he never that that..
#125 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, type in: ping login.minecraft.net
#126 [00:42] <fido7154> It says if I connect once I can play offline but I can't even do that
#127 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> Please tell me what ip address it resolves to
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#129 [00:43] <fido7154> ok
#130 [00:43] <mib_79qsik> ok downlaod it from browser then u can play offline at exe , and if u wanna play online and stil cant connect its server prob and u has to wait
#131 [00:43] <mib_79qsik> i am cereal
#132 [00:43] <mib_79qsik> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#133 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> mib_79qsik - He can't play offline because the exe needs to login successfully at least once for the files to download
#134 [00:44] <fido7154> doesn't list an Ip just the game location on disk
#135 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> the Launcher has no game files
#136 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - ping login.minecraft.net
#137 [00:44] <mib_79qsik> http://www.minecraft.net/pla
#138 [00:44] <mib_79qsik> i knowwww\!! ,, kdijeoijdfosijff
#139 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - What is the first line command prompt returns after you put that in?
#140 [00:44] <mib_79qsik> dont do it man hes trying to hack ur computer i swaer
#141 [00:44] <mib_79qsik> and he went to a nerd convention
#142 [00:45] <mib_79qsik> he told me i swear
#143 [00:45] <mib_79qsik> and wore a wizard costume
#144 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> !k mib_79qsik
#145 [00:45] * GreyBot kicked mib_79qsik from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_79qsik :<Kicks:850>)
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#147 [00:45] <fido7154> users furandfangs
#148 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
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#150 [00:46] <blinky> wow
#151 [00:46] <blinky> he rage kicked me
#152 [00:46] <blinky> u mad bro?
#153 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - It should say, "pinging..."
#154 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> blinky - This is not a channel to goof around in. If you're going to troll, do it elsewhere
#155 [00:47] <blinky> k i am sorry god , lesin to grey his pro
#156 [00:47] <blinky> a pro
#157 [00:47] <blinky> in hacking computers ...
#158 [00:47] <fido7154> how do I ping it?
#159 [00:47] <blinky> just saying..
#160 [00:47] <blinky> joshing
#161 [00:47] <blinky> k ill stop i swear
#162 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - Did you put in, in the cmd prompt, ping login.minecraft.net ?
#163 [00:48] <blinky> oh man this is gonna fail so much , get ready for the fail bomb , wasting ur time bro
#164 [00:48] <fido7154> Request timed out
#165 [00:48] <blinky> grey i need helkp
#166 [00:48] <blinky> told u
#167 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - What does it say above that?
#168 [00:49] <blinky> grey can i ask u something
#169 [00:49] <JohnEBH> ??> blinky attitude
#170 [00:49] <VoxelHead> blinky: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#171 [00:49] <VoxelHead> blinky: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#172 [00:50] <JohnEBH> I emphasize "the more of a jerk you are"
#173 [00:50] <blinky> u know its really easy to transport minecraft to other computers , u jjust put the .minecraft on a flash and give it to friends
#174 [00:50] <blinky> but can u email them the .minecraft file?
#175 [00:50] <blinky> also are they gonna do something about that?
#176 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> blinky - Yes.
#177 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> blinky - Nope
#178 [00:50] <blinky> why
#179 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> blinky - Why should they?
#180 [00:50] <blinky> so people would buy the game...
#181 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> blinky - If people like it, they'll buy it.
#182 [00:51] <JohnEBH> erm, you can't login if you don't have an account anyways
#183 [00:51] <fido7154> pinging auth- long number us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com followed by an IP with 32 bytes of data
#184 [00:51] <blinky> hmm
#185 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> blinky - If not, they'll pirate it.
#186 [00:51] <blinky> cool
#187 [00:51] <blinky> hey how come they arnt sueing the clones?
#188 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> blinky - Only those that use minecraft's images.
#189 [00:51] <blinky> like that crap fortresscrap
#190 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Fortresscraft doesn't use any of minecraft's images
#191 [00:52] <Scott> Fortresscraft doesn't use any of Mojang's IP.
#192 [00:52] <JohnEBH> They're not Bathesda ;)
#193 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - Could you go back to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#194 [00:52] <Scott> and they certainly don't own 'craft'.
#195 [00:52] <blinky> and they made like mill bucks those pigs
#196 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - Tell me what the folder's name it opens up to
#197 [00:52] <blinky> grey how do i email .minecraft to ma friends
#198 [00:52] <blinky> friend*
#199 [00:52] <blinky> plox tels meh?
#200 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> blinky - If your friends want to pirate minecraft, they'll have to figure it out on their own
#201 [00:53] * Scott wonders if he is serious.
#201 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Do you honestly expect us to endorse that idea?
#202 [00:53] <blinky> i wanna email then a file called .minecraft how do i do that do i just drag it ?
#203 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#204 [00:53] <blinky> to the email thing, or what
#205 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> You just drag it to their computer.
#206 [00:53] <blinky> no i mean over email.................
#207 [00:53] * AG_Clinton laughs
#207 [00:53] <Scott> Pull the file with a magnet from the hard drive in your computer and put to their hard drive
#208 [00:53] <Scott> it will transfer it
#209 [00:54] <blinky> scott u silly
#210 [00:54] <Scott> I'm serious
#211 [00:54] <Scott> it will
#212 [00:54] <blinky> no
#213 [00:54] <Silent_Samurai> ^.^
#214 [00:54] <blinky> wow what Silent_Samurai what!!...
#215 [00:54] <fido7154> it pretty much just takes me to my profile folder
#216 [00:54] <blinky> CUz IF U DIDNT KNOW!!!!!! knooow u know!!!!!
#217 [00:55] <fido7154> my user prefs
#218 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - Does that folder's name happen to have a ! mark in it?
#219 [00:55] <fido7154> no
#220 [00:55] <blinky> grey how do i email me friend the file , dont make me google it
#221 [00:55] <JohnEBH> Google it
#222 [00:55] * Scott kicked blinky from #minecrafthelp (Reason: linky :Your behavior is not conducive to the desired environment.)
#223 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - Alright then. I'm pretty confident it's your security software/firewall blocking it then
#224 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> He'll be back
#225 [00:55] <Scott> /mode +b
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#227 [00:56] <fido7154> Microsoft Security Essential
#228 [00:56] <froglegstew> WOW i am trying to help fido7154 stop rage kickking me!!
#229 [00:56] <JohnEBH> I wish Voxel had a troll detection system
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#231 [00:56] <froglegstew> fido do what i say
#232 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> !k froglegstew
#233 [00:56] * GreyBot kicked froglegstew from #minecrafthelp (Reason: roglegstew :<Kicks:851>)
#234 [00:56] * GreyVulpine coughs
#234 [00:56] <fido7154> ??? dude I cant kick
#235 [00:56] <Scott> ignore him
#236 [00:56] <Scott> he's a troll
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#238 [00:56] <JohnEBH> Also, he can't use ounctuations
#239 [00:56] * Scott kicked Puddles from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uddles :byebye)
#240 [00:56] <fido7154> Oh ok then
#241 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - Are you able to play minecraft in the browser?
#242 [00:57] <JohnEBH> He meant, "Wow! I'm trying to help fido7154. Stop rage kicking me!"
#243 [00:57] <fido7154> Nope just get a black screen
#244 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - What version of java do you have installed?
#245 [00:57] <Scott> If he has a dynamic IP: NetRange: 50.98.0.0 - 50.99.255.255
#246 [00:57] <fido7154> latest
#247 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - Could you tell us specifically what version it is?
#248 [00:58] <fido7154> Just updated last night
#249 [00:58] <fido7154> one sec
#250 [00:58] <GreyVulpine> fido7154 - Are you running 6 or 7?
#251 [00:58] <JohnEBH> So about 255,255 ip's have been banned?
#252 [00:58] <Silent_Samurai> Scott, My dynamic IP can be 1.* or 50.* and others :P
#253 [00:59] <Scott> Most ISP's don't have such large allocations in multiple /8s
#254 [00:59] <fido7154> Java(TM) 2 Platform standard edition 5.0
#255 [00:59] <JohnEBH> ...
#256 [01:00] <JohnEBH> Just updated... Eh?
#257 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> That's.. a bit old.
#258 [01:00] <fido7154> Product version 1.5.0.0
#259 [01:00] <Scott> That's about 130k Ips by the way JohnEBH and no they aren't banned.
#260 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, you may need to uninstall java completely, so you can reinstall java 6 fresh from java.com
#261 [01:00] <JohnEBH> We're kinda on SE 6, Update 29
#262 [01:00] <fido7154> I don't know it did an auto update this morning
#263 [01:01] <JohnEBH> So they're just possible IP's he could possibly switch to?
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#265 [01:02] <fido7154> ok
#266 [01:02] <JohnEBH> And if we see someone with a similar IP join, the likeliness of him joining is high?
#267 [01:03] <Silent_Samurai> My WiFi decided to disconnect.
#268 [01:03] <Silent_Samurai> >.>
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#270 [01:04] * JohnEBH dislikes wifi
#270 [01:04] * JohnEBH for desktops
#270 [01:05] <Silent_Samurai> Laptop.
#271 [01:05] * JohnEBH dislikes dying routers =D
#271 [01:05] <Silent_Samurai> The crap thing is, when I get my desktop its going to have to use WiFi.
#272 [01:06] <Silent_Samurai> Since modem is across the whole house >.>
#273 [01:06] <Scott> Or you could wire your house with cat6
#274 [01:06] <Silent_Samurai> ?
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#277 [01:06] <mtjaxter> hey everyone, anyone know where to find GLSL 1.8.1 patch? or unofficial patch?
#278 [01:07] <JohnEBH> Someone hasn't seen a wire in a long time =P
#279 [01:07] <Silent_Samurai> Also did anybody see what happened in #centos on FreeNode?
#280 [01:08] <Family> How the fuck do I game the game to work my screen that pops up when I start minecraft looks nothing like everyone elses and it says I need to be premium member
#281 [01:08] * AuBot kicked Family from #minecrafthelp (Reason: amily :Please keep it civil.)
#282 [01:08] <JohnEBH> mtjaxter- See pm
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#284 [01:09] <Family> How the do I game the game to work my screen that pops up when I start minecraft looks nothing like everyone elses and it says I need to be premium member*
#285 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> You need to pay for the game to play minecraft beta
#286 [01:09] <Family> Even to play offline?
#287 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#288 [01:10] <Family> Wow.. thats gay
#289 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Yes, that's gay that you have to pay to play a game
#290 [01:10] <Silent_Samurai> I know right!
#291 [01:10] <Family> It's 20 bucks rofl. It's a total rip off. + If you can play online why can't you play offline?
#292 [01:11] <AG_Clinton> I hate paying for things too.
#293 [01:11] * JohnEBH coughs
#293 [01:11] <JohnEBH> taxes
#294 [01:11] <Silent_Samurai> The government should give every person in the world a Minecraft.
#295 [01:11] <Family> The online isn't working for me.
#296 [01:11] <Silent_Samurai> Family, <GreyVulpine> You need to pay for the game to play minecraft beta
#297 [01:11] <AG_Clinton> Family: Did you buy the game?
#298 [01:12] <JohnEBH> Family- There is a free version of the game, it's called Minecraft CLASSIC.
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#300 [01:12] <JohnEBH> And question... Does the demo still exist?
#301 [01:12] <Family> Is there are way to download an older version say like 1.7.3?
#302 [01:12] <JohnEBH> ?? demo
#303 [01:12] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#304 [01:12] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
#305 [01:12] <JohnEBH> Family- No
#306 [01:12] <Silent_Samurai> Yes you can.
#307 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Not for free
#308 [01:12] <JohnEBH> Family- You had to pay for minecraft since Alpha =P
#309 [01:13] <Family> I just want the older version link pl0x
#310 [01:13] <Thrae> ?? oldversion
#311 [01:13] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=113094
#312 [01:13] <Family> 1.7.3
#313 [01:13] <JohnEBH> http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play
#314 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not it thrae
#315 [01:13] * Thrae fails to scroll up
#315 [01:14] <Family> sigh...
#316 [01:15] <Family> Am I able to set up the mod "skyblock
#317 [01:15] <Family> on the demo?
#318 [01:16] <Silent_Samurai> Its not a mod.
#319 [01:16] <Family> What is it then o.O
#320 [01:16] <Silent_Samurai> A map.
#321 [01:16] <Family> Well can I use that map on the demo?
#322 [01:16] <Silent_Samurai> I don't know.
#323 [01:16] <Silent_Samurai> I never used it.
#324 [01:17] <JohnEBH> Something that I thought was cool... Fade - Anti Piracy measure. http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=126991
#325 [01:19] <Family> How do I add a map to the game?
#326 [01:19] <Family> After I downlaoded it
#327 [01:22] <fido7154> ok updated to 6 now
#328 [01:22] <fido7154> still no dice
#329 [01:24] <fido7154> ooh I can do the browser version now
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#335 [01:35] <dad> can someone help me with something?
#336 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> With?
#337 [01:35] <dad> minecraft
#338 [01:35] <GreyVulpine> What about minecraft?
#339 [01:36] <dad> my sons account
#340 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Could you please elaborate?
#341 [01:36] <dad> he's at his moms house past few days and she sent me a text saying he got banned for something but doesn't know what he did, he's only 7
#342 [01:37] <dad> he plays all the time
#343 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, most likely he got banned from a server. Servers are independantly run. Mojang has no jurisdiction over them. If he knows the server's admin, he can contact them directly. If not, he can find a different server to play on
#344 [01:38] <dad> yea he plays blocktopia
#345 [01:38] <dad> do you know an email i can write to?
#346 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> http://blocktopia.net/forum/
#347 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> Looks like they take ban appeals on their forums
#348 [01:38] <dad> ty so much
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#350 [01:39] <Monn> hello
#351 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#352 [01:40] <Monn> 'ello
#353 [01:40] <Monn> @Kealper hi
#354 [01:40] <Kealper> o.O
#355 [01:40] <GreyVulpine> Something we can help you with Monn?
#356 [01:41] <Monn> No thx!
#357 [01:41] * GreyVulpine nods and goes back to AFK-world
#357 [01:41] <Monn> lol
#358 [01:43] <dad> another question grey, minecraft used to run fine on my laptop and since about a week ago it says failed to connect the server is probably down, was there an update or something recently?
#359 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, from connecting to a server? Most likely, that server went down
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#361 [01:44] <dad> it says that for every server
#362 [01:44] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, shouldn't be, unless you've got some sort of security software blocking it.
#363 [01:44] <dad> might just be my laptop
#364 [01:44] <dad> i will check into that thanks again, you can go back to afk world :)
#365 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> You could try s.nerd.nu, is reddit's survival server. Also a known good server that's usually up
#366 [01:46] <Silent_Samurai> ^ Didn't like that server.
#367 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> Can also !check the server here, we've got at least a couple bots that'll determine if a server's actually up, or if it's just your connection
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#371 [02:13] <b0xxy> are you able to remove TNT as an option in creative mode?
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#373 [02:20] <mtjaxter> you guys help with plugins at all? :)
#374 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> That's a topic for #bukkit
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#390 [04:28] <westjgames> !isdown login.minecraft.net
#391 [04:29] <GreyBot> westjgames: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#392 [04:29] <westjgames> fayum
#393 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> That's not !isdown is for
#394 [04:29] <GreyVulpine> Also, login.minecraft.net was changed
#395 [04:29] <westjgames> oh
#396 [04:29] <westjgames> I used to use that for testing the server
#397 [04:30] <westjgames> so, now how do I tell if the server is down? Whine about not connecting?
#398 [04:31] <GreyVulpine> Moment..
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#400 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> !isdown login.minecraft.net/?user=example&password=example&version=13
#401 [04:35] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#402 [04:35] <GreyVulpine> bleh
#403 [04:36] <AG_Clinton> :(
#404 [04:36] * GreyVulpine tries logging in himself
#404 [04:36] <GreyVulpine> Login server seems fine
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#406 [04:37] <GreyVulpine> !isdown login.minecraft.net/?user=example&password=example&version=13
#407 [04:37] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://login.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#408 [04:37] * GreyVulpine kicks greybot for not parsing that URL correctly
#408 [04:37] <westjgames> lol
#409 [04:38] <westjgames> Its up now anyway
#410 [04:38] <GreyVulpine> Oh, never mind, it's actually the downforeverybodyorjustme website that isn't parsing that correctly
#411 [04:38] <westjgames> Time to make Rainbow Dash Pixel Art!
#412 [04:39] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, if the login server returns Bad login with "http://login.minecraft.net/?user=example&password=example&version=13", it's fine
#413 [04:39] <westjgames> k
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#418 [05:05] <KrystekPL99> Hello
#419 [05:05] <KrystekPL99> I've got problem :(
#420 [05:05] <KrystekPL99> Here are somebody?
#421 [05:06] <KrystekPL99> I need help!
#422 [05:06] <KrystekPL99> Help me! Please!
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#424 [05:07] <KrystekPL99> Please! *cry* Help me! *cry*
#425 [05:08] <KrystekPL99> Nobody see me?
#426 [05:08] <KrystekPL99> ????
#427 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> We can see you, nobody's around. For the majority of helpers, this is extremely late. Most are probably asleep
#428 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Something I'm about to head off doing as well.
#429 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> You may want to try again later.
#430 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> You may want to try again later.
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#432 [05:25] <Monn> almost
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#434 [05:34] <Monn> http://webchat.esper.net/#
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#448 [06:35] <Warfailz> Anyone knows how i can start my server from putty?
#449 [06:38] <Thrae> Warfailz: java -jar minecraft_server.jar
#450 [06:38] <Thrae> Warfailz: java -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
#451 [06:38] <Warfailz> java -Xmx6048M -Xms2024M -jar 'sm_aruba/arubacraft/craftbukkit.jar' nogui
#452 [06:39] <Warfailz> my screen's detached...
#453 [06:39] <Warfailz> to
#454 [06:39] <Thrae> Warfailz: That'll do it fine
#455 [06:39] <Warfailz> Nope not owrking
#456 [06:39] <Warfailz> Unable to access jarfile
#457 [06:39] <Warfailz> With you'rs to
#458 [06:39] <Thrae> Warfailz: What happens when you do "cd 'sm_aruba/arubacraft/craftbukkit.jar"
#459 [06:40] <Thrae> Warfailz: What happens when you do "cd sm_aruba/arubacraft/craftbukkit.jar"
#460 [06:40] <Warfailz> datei oder verzeichnis nicht gefunden
#461 [06:40] <Thrae> Warfailz: Have you ever used a command line interface before?
#462 [06:40] <Thrae> English, please
#463 [06:40] <Warfailz> not this one >.>
#464 [06:40] <Warfailz> Yeh i dont kno
#465 [06:40] <Warfailz> It asnwers me in german xD
#466 [06:40] <Warfailz> do you have teamviewer?
#467 [06:40] <Thrae> Well it's the same deal
#468 [06:40] <Thrae> TeamViewer is entirely unnecessary
#469 [06:40] <Warfailz> But like
#470 [06:41] <Warfailz> this server is rended
#471 [06:41] <Warfailz> So we can only use putty
#472 [06:41] <Warfailz> or screen is detachd.
#473 [06:41] <Thrae> Please give me a chance to type.
#474 [06:41] <Warfailz> i think
#475 [06:41] <Thrae> Your problem is:
#476 [06:42] <Thrae> When you're inputting that command, you're basically say /the/directory/youre/in/now/sm_aruba/arubacraft/craftbukkit.jar
#477 [06:42] <Thrae> You either need to fix your path
#478 [06:43] <Warfailz> let me tell u
#479 [06:43] <Warfailz> ./home/sm_aruba/arubacraft
#480 [06:43] <Warfailz> do i need to put the /home
#481 [06:43] <Warfailz> to?
#482 [06:43] <Warfailz> oh wait -.-
#483 [06:43] <Thrae> Warfailz: Remove the period at the start
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#485 [06:43] <Warfailz> yeh
#486 [06:43] <Warfailz> i kno
#487 [06:43] <Warfailz> but else mirc is going to complain
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#489 [06:44] <Thrae> Warfailz: java -Xmx6048M -Xms2024M -jar '/home/sm_aruba/arubacraft/craftbukkit.jar' nogui
#490 [06:44] <Warfailz> ok
#491 [06:44] <Warfailz> yay<3 But now its complaining about the port so i need to detach the other screens
#492 [06:44] <Warfailz> or stop them
#493 [06:45] <Warfailz> Because it has crashed.
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#495 [06:47] <Warfailz> So how do i detach them?
#496 [06:48] <Thrae> Warfailz: How do you detach a screen session? CTRL+A, then press d
#497 [06:49] <Warfailz> i mean
#498 [06:49] <Warfailz> complete remove
#499 [06:49] <Warfailz> So it stops running
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#501 [06:49] <Thrae> Warfailz: Attach the screen, then stop the program. If you can't attach it for some reason, you'll need to use the "kill" command.
#502 [06:50] <Warfailz> Its like flooding the help
#503 [06:50] <Warfailz> i attached it now
#504 [06:50] <Warfailz> Btw, what if i kill it?
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#507 [06:58] <Thrae> Warfailz: Using "kill" should be safe, it's "kill -9" which is unsafe
#508 [06:58] <Warfailz> so
#509 [06:58] <Warfailz> if i use
#510 [06:58] <Warfailz> kill
#511 [06:59] <Thrae> Please keep it all in one sentence.
#512 [06:59] <Warfailz> I know >.> sorry.
#513 [06:59] <Chris> what was the command, "kill -s9 1"?
#514 [06:59] <Chris> jk
#515 [06:59] <Warfailz> I did kill, i get german things agan. What do i need to put in?
#516 [06:59] <Warfailz> I need to get the minecraft pid dont i?
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#518 [06:59] <Thrae> Warfailz: Yes
#519 [06:59] <Chris> or "killall java"
#520 [07:00] <Warfailz> dIe operation ist nicht erlaubt
#521 [07:00] <Thrae> Stop giving me German, I don't know German
#522 [07:00] <Warfailz> Im rending this server remember
#523 [07:00] <Warfailz> Yeh i think it means im not allowed to do tat
#524 [07:00] <Warfailz> Im not german to >.> thats the point;p
#525 [07:01] <Thrae> Do you own this server?
#526 [07:01] <Warfailz> we rent this server
#527 [07:01] <Warfailz> from unimatrix
#528 [07:01] <Thrae> Warfailz: You'll have to contact them to kill the process then, since it seems you don't have access to.
#529 [07:02] <Warfailz> how do i find the PID?
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#531 [07:02] <Chris> ps ux|grep java
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#533 [07:02] <Warfailz> the second number
#534 [07:03] <Warfailz> 6647
#535 [07:03] <Warfailz> is that the PID?
#536 [07:03] <Thrae> Warfailz: ps ux | grep java | grep -v grep
#537 [07:03] <Chris> "ps ux" might have the headings
#538 [07:03] <Chris> that works too :P
#539 [07:04] <Warfailz> hmm
#540 [07:04] <Warfailz> i get 6647
#541 [07:04] <Warfailz> With the command from Thrae I get no results
#542 [07:04] <Chris> warfailz, can you pastebin the result of "ps ux | grep java"
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#544 [07:05] <Warfailz> thats not much
#545 [07:05] <Warfailz> i can paste it here..
#546 [07:05] <Warfailz> sm_aruba 7790 0.0 0.0 11016 864 pts/6 S+ 13:04 0:00 grep jav
#547 [07:05] <Warfailz> only that
#548 [07:05] <Chris> java's not running...
#549 [07:05] <Thrae> Chris: I'm guessing the reason Warfailz can't kill Minecraft is because the user he's logged into doesn't have the privileges
#550 [07:05] <Warfailz> It chrashed. I dont know why
#551 [07:05] <Chris> aah... if he didn't start it then ps ux wouldn't show it either
#552 [07:05] <Thrae> Warfailz: ps aux | grep java | grep -v grep
#553 [07:06] <Thrae> Chris: You need to add 'a' to show all users
#554 [07:06] <Chris> don't you take out the u then? ps ax?
#555 [07:06] <Warfailz> hmm
#556 [07:06] <Warfailz> this is a bit more
#557 [07:06] <Chris> to pastebin! xD
#558 [07:06] <Chris> or that
#559 [07:06] <Warfailz> i pmed you
#560 [07:06] <Chris> what's your username to log in?
#561 [07:07] <LorDenni> is this a minecraft help chat?
#562 [07:07] <Warfailz> sm_aruba
#563 [07:07] <Chris> I'm fairly certain your server isn't running
#564 [07:07] <Warfailz> i have 4 attached screens and i want to close them down
#565 [07:07] <Warfailz> java -Xmx6048M -Xms2024M -jar '/home/sm_aruba/arubacraft/craftbukkit.jar' nogui
#566 [07:07] <Thrae> Warfailz: I'm guessing "sm_39" and "sm_doree" are not your accounts?
#567 [07:07] <Chris> Ctrl+a, Shift+K, Y is what I use...
#568 [07:07] <Warfailz> so that command should run it
#569 [07:07] <Warfailz> nope that are other servers
#570 [07:07] <Warfailz> if i do that
#571 [07:07] <Warfailz> it sais the port is already in use
#572 [07:07] <Thrae> Warfailz: Yeah, then CraftBukkit isn't running
#573 [07:08] <Chris> Warfailz, make sure the IP is set in server.properties
#574 [07:08] <Thrae> Warfailz: Why don't you contact the server admin...
#575 [07:08] <Chris> or that
#576 [07:08] <Chris> LorDenni, yes
#577 [07:08] <Warfailz> Hes not here..
#578 [07:08] <LorDenni> the game wont allow me to connect to any servers
#579 [07:08] <LorDenni> im slow writer
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#581 [07:09] <Thrae> Warfailz: Well then wait until the server admin is available.
#582 [07:09] <Warfailz> Chris: What does you're command do?
#583 [07:09] <Warfailz> Because i think that one of those screens is the chrashed one
#584 [07:09] <Chris> it forces it closed
#585 [07:09] <Chris> if its attached
#586 [07:09] <Thrae> Warfailz: screen -ls
#587 [07:09] <Warfailz> There are several suitable screens on:
#588 [07:09] <Warfailz> 8661.pts-6.luna385 (10.11.2011 13:06:36) (Attached)
#589 [07:09] <Warfailz> 30931.pts-6.luna385 (10.11.2011 12:46:33) (Detached)
#590 [07:09] <Warfailz> 18490.pts-6.luna385 (10.11.2011 12:14:58) (Detached)
#591 [07:09] <Warfailz> 18383.pts-6.luna385 (10.11.2011 12:14:45) (Detached)
#592 [07:09] <Chris> kill 8661 30931 etc
#593 [07:10] <Warfailz> just kill 8661
#594 [07:10] <Warfailz> ?
#595 [07:10] <Thrae> Don't paste multiple lines here
#596 [07:10] <Chris> kill the ones you don't want
#597 [07:11] <Warfailz> And it still sais its in use the port
#598 [07:11] <Warfailz> Failed to bind to port.
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#600 [07:11] <Warfailz> I cant do any more
#601 [07:11] <Thrae> Kill them all
#602 [07:11] <Warfailz> i did
#603 [07:11] <Chris> hmm.. what was the command to find the PIDs of ports.... netstat something...
#604 [07:11] <Warfailz> No Sockets found in /var/run/screen/S-sm_aruba.
#605 [07:11] <Warfailz> netstat -s
#606 [07:12] <Warfailz> or v
#607 [07:12] <Thrae> Seriously Warfailz you are way over your head...maybe this shared server you can't use the same port as other servers running on the same system?
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#609 [07:12] <Chris> if the IPs are bound then it should work
#610 [07:12] <Thrae> Warfailz: You need to contact the server admin (Unimatrix or whatever)
#611 [07:12] <Chris> {unimatrix} I believe :P
#612 [07:12] <Warfailz> Yep i think.
#613 [07:12] <Warfailz> Uni should fix this i ask him later if he can tell me how i can fix it next time
#614 [07:13] <LorDenni> the game tells me "connection refused but i was just online like 20 minutes ago
#615 [07:13] <LorDenni> could i be banned?
#616 [07:14] <Warfailz> No you're not lor
#617 [07:14] <LorDenni> oh
#618 [07:14] <Warfailz> It is the server that has chrashed which server are you talking bout?
#619 [07:14] <LorDenni> then y wont it let me connect?
#620 [07:14] <Warfailz> The server is chrashed
#621 [07:14] <LorDenni> its never happened to me before
#622 [07:14] <LorDenni> all my servers crashed
#623 [07:15] <LorDenni> i have like 18 if them on there
#624 [07:15] <LorDenni> and i cant onnect to any but my brother can
#625 [07:15] <LorDenni> connect...
#626 [07:16] <Warfailz> killall -9 java
#627 [07:16] <Warfailz> Would that work?
#628 [07:16] <Warfailz> Lor, try restarting ur computer
#629 [07:16] <LorDenni> oh ok
#630 [07:16] <Chris> "sudo reboot" :P it'd likely not warfailz
#631 [07:17] <Warfailz> hmm
#632 [07:17] <Warfailz> i just need to get that process killd
#633 [07:17] <Chris> Warfailz, you'll need to contact {unimatrix}
#634 [07:17] <Warfailz> yep
#635 [07:17] <Chris> we can help, no more
#636 [07:18] <Warfailz> Thanks for helping :)
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#638 [07:25] <mib_azfndx> hello
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#646 [08:17] <Wug> its quiet ... too quiet
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#655 [08:48] <Opeth> wubwubwugwug
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#657 [08:51] <Guest_> can you place more than one black at a time and if so how?
#658 [08:51] <Guest_> block*
#659 [08:52] <clarjon1> Guest_: Place more than one block at a time? o.o
#660 [08:52] <clarjon1> Guest_: Not really, but you can place 'em quicker by spamming the right click button...
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#662 [08:56] <Guest_> i thought u used to be able to place more than one within a certain area? does this not work anymore?
#663 [08:57] <peru__> through admin tools on a server, yes
#664 [09:00] <Guest_> ok thanks
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#669 [09:12] <Wug> Guest_: not without a bot or something
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#673 [09:21] <KrystekPL99> Hello
#674 [09:22] <KrystekPL99> I need help!
#675 [09:23] <KrystekPL99> Nobody can hap me now?
#676 [09:23] <KrystekPL99> help*
#677 [09:24] <KrystekPL99> Please, I don't have time later
#678 [09:24] <KrystekPL99> Please, I don't have time later
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#681 [09:38] <marky> hey does anyone know about changing the email linked to my minecraft account? support says that it cant be done yet, are there plans to add it? only i recall the same message a couple of months ago
#682 [09:41] <Wug> marky: the website is right, its not currently possible.
#683 [09:41] <marky> thanks :(
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#691 [10:04] <KrystekPL99> Hello
#692 [10:04] <KrystekPL99> Now somebody have time for my problem?
#693 [10:07] <KrystekPL99> ??????
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#695 [10:14] <[L]> Meiow
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#703 [10:42] <CYPH3R> hello all
#704 [10:43] <CYPH3R> i have a question
#705 [10:43] <CYPH3R> i have a dell poweredge 2600 2 xeon 2.8ghz and 6gb ram
#706 [10:43] <CYPH3R> minecraft only seems to use 1 processor
#707 [10:44] <CYPH3R> and also, whats the max memory use for a x86 system
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#709 [10:46] <frogzilla> what should I do when my multiplayer server says connection refused?
#710 [10:46] <CYPH3R> pray
#711 [10:47] <CYPH3R> :-)
#712 [10:47] <frogzilla> haha
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#714 [10:47] <CYPH3R> is the server down?
#715 [10:47] <frogzilla> Its not
#716 [10:47] <frogzilla> this happens every once in a couple of weeks
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#718 [10:50] <necro> Has anyone had problems logging into the website but not the game?   I tried a password reset, verified my username and still told it isn't valid.  The game lets me in with the new password just fine.  Please advise.
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#725 [11:16] <McTony94> hello
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#727 [11:18] <mr_trousers> hey u there bro?
#728 [11:19] <mr_trousers> tony?
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#730 [11:22] <roca23> hi i've got a serious issue with minecraft. I bought it a while ago and was playing it regularly. Today when i tried to log in, it told me that i was not a premium user. What's wrong with that. Can you please help me?
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#732 [11:25] <roca23> anyone?
#733 [11:25] <CYPH3R> close it and try again
#734 [11:25] <CYPH3R> it happens from time to time
#735 [11:26] <roca23> i tried for about 10 times for the last 2 hours
#736 [11:26] <roca23> still not working
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#739 [11:27] <CYPH3R> log in at the webpage and see what it says
#740 [11:27] <roca23> i can log in to the webpage and it works
#741 [11:27] <CYPH3R> does it say premium there?
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#743 [11:28] <roca23> where is this note written on the homepage?
#744 [11:28] <CYPH3R> eh?
#745 [11:29] <roca23> where can i see if i'm premium on the homepage?
#746 [11:29] <CYPH3R> im really not sure off the top of my head
#747 [11:29] <roca23> i never used the homepage except to redeem my code
#748 [11:30] <CYPH3R> hmm
#749 [11:30] <CYPH3R> i had this problem before
#750 [11:30] <CYPH3R> but it just went away
#751 [11:30] <roca23> so this could be a temporary bug of some sort?
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#753 [11:32] <CYPH3R> thats what it was with me
#754 [11:32] <CYPH3R> the joy of playing a beta game
#755 [11:32] <roca23> :-D i hope it is just that. first time i can't log in some i am kind of worried
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#757 [11:37] <CYPH3R> lol
#758 [11:37] <CYPH3R> understandable
#759 [11:37] <CYPH3R> i about flipped my shit when it happened
#760 [11:37] <CYPH3R> try downloading it again
#761 [11:39] <mr_trousers> i have a problem as well i bought minecraft today and downloaded it and it just comes up as 1.8.1 and wont auto download the updates
#762 [11:40] <CYPH3R> 1.8.1 is the current release
#763 [11:40] <mr_trousers> and it doesnt tell me that my account isnt prepium either
#764 [11:40] <CYPH3R> if it comes up as 1.8.1 youre working fine
#765 [11:40] <mr_trousers> ahhh k my mistake i saw a few videos and thought it was out
#766 [11:40] <CYPH3R> theres a prerelease for 1.9 out
#767 [11:41] <CYPH3R> but you would have to manually change the files out
#768 [11:41] <mr_trousers> yea do you know when 1.9 is going to come out?
#769 [11:42] <CYPH3R> no idea
#770 [11:42] <CYPH3R> should be soon
#771 [11:42] <mr_trousers> :\
#772 [11:42] <CYPH3R> the full release is supposed to be this month
#773 [11:42] <mr_trousers> cool
#774 [11:46] <roca23> i downloaded it again, but still no change
#775 [11:46] <CYPH3R> hmm
#776 [11:46] <CYPH3R> well you might have to wait for a bit
#777 [11:46] <roca23> well i propably should just wait a little
#778 [11:47] <roca23> yeah :)
#779 [11:47] <CYPH3R> im not sure whats causing it
#780 [11:48] <roca23> i finally got my server setup right, with all the mods i want, it works smooth and what happens? i can't play. thats so typical
#781 [11:49] <CYPH3R> lol
#782 [11:49] <CYPH3R> aint it though
#783 [11:49] <CYPH3R> im working on getting my server set up as well
#784 [11:49] <CYPH3R> but its causing me problems
#785 [11:49] <roca23> are you using one @ home or did you rent one?
#786 [11:50] <CYPH3R> i have a few servers at home
#787 [11:50] <CYPH3R> thought i might as well use them
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#789 [11:50] <mib_8481ik> can someone help me?
#790 [11:51] <mib_8481ik> please
#791 [11:51] <roca23> yeah thats what i thought :) what are your troubles with your server?
#792 [11:51] <roca23> mib_8481ik: depends on your question
#793 [11:52] <CYPH3R> well its got 2 processors
#794 [11:52] <CYPH3R> minecraft is only using one
#795 [11:52] <CYPH3R> i think i need to change out the OS
#796 [11:52] <mib_8481ik> well i just bought the game and when i click on the in browser and nothing comes up theres just an x on the top left corner of where the screen where mincecraft is supposed to be
#797 [11:53] <CYPH3R> install java
#798 [11:53] <mib_8481ik> i have the latest version
#799 [11:53] <CYPH3R> just install the minecraft client
#800 [11:53] <mib_8481ik> ok
#801 [11:54] <roca23> well that was quick :)
#802 [11:54] <CYPH3R> lol
#803 [11:54] <roca23> what os are you using?
#804 [11:54] <CYPH3R> its got win 2000
#805 [11:54] <roca23> uhh thats old
#806 [11:55] <CYPH3R> lol
#807 [11:55] <CYPH3R> that makes no difference on a server
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#809 [11:56] <roca23> mine is running on windows server 2008. it makes a difference in comfort ;)
#810 [11:56] <CYPH3R> i might put 2--8 on it
#811 [11:56] <CYPH3R> i dunno
#812 [11:56] <CYPH3R> 2008 is bloated
#813 [11:56] <CYPH3R> i didnt like it
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#815 [11:57] <roca23> it is not using the given resources too well in comparison, BUT it is very easy to use and there are millions of good software for every need
#816 [11:58] <CYPH3R> i ran 2003 for awhile as well
#817 [11:58] <CYPH3R> i liked it ok
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#819 [11:59] <roca23> you will find your preferred one :)
#820 [11:59] <finnen> is TnT here?
#821 [11:59] <CYPH3R> the list is on the right
#822 [12:00] <CYPH3R> lol
#823 [12:00] <roca23> and i thought my question was dumb :D
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#825 [12:00] <dr_bibble> i tried downloading java and downloading the client but it still didnt work
#826 [12:01] <CYPH3R> what operating system?
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#828 [12:01] <dr_bibble> what do u mean?
#829 [12:01] <CYPH3R> oh dear
#830 [12:01] <CYPH3R> are you using windows?
#831 [12:01] <CYPH3R> a mac?
#832 [12:01] <CYPH3R> linux?
#833 [12:01] <dr_bibble> windows xp
#834 [12:01] <CYPH3R> ah
#835 [12:02] <dr_bibble> is there a problem with using windows xp for minecraft?
#836 [12:02] <CYPH3R> http://www.java.com/en/download/chrome.jsp?locale=en
#837 [12:02] <CYPH3R> download java again
#838 [12:02] <CYPH3R> with that link
#839 [12:04] <roca23> which irc client are you using cyph3r?
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#841 [12:05] <CYPH3R> mirc
#842 [12:05] <CYPH3R> basic of the basic
#843 [12:06] <roca23> i am on the search for a smaller one. i don't need no fancy features, it just has to look good and be small
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#845 [12:06] <dr_bibble> do i hit run
#846 [12:06] <dr_bibble> after i downloaded it
#847 [12:07] <dr_bibble> cyph3r?
#848 [12:07] <CYPH3R> yes
#849 [12:07] <CYPH3R> open it
#850 [12:07] <CYPH3R> install it
#851 [12:08] <dr_bibble> i did do i hit run or just exit out after its done?
#852 [12:08] <CYPH3R> run
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#855 [12:12] <funkymouse> Anyone here can help me?
#856 [12:13] <CYPH3R> depends on your problem
#857 [12:14] <roca23> what the fudge are these people doing
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#859 [12:14] <CYPH3R> failing
#860 [12:14] <stomper> cyph3r this is the person from before
#861 [12:15] <stomper> it still says could not make java virtual machine maker
#862 [12:15] <CYPH3R> the fuck
#863 [12:15] * AuBot kicked CYPH3R from #minecrafthelp (Reason: YPH3R :Please keep it civil.)
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#865 [12:15] <CYPH3R> ah
#866 [12:15] <CYPH3R> well
#867 [12:15] <CYPH3R> oops
#868 [12:15] <Wug> :tv > stomper
#869 [12:15] <WugBot> stomper: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#870 [12:15] <WugBot> stomper: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
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#875 [12:20] <tobi> I need same help with Minecraft
#876 [12:21] <Wug> what's it doing?
#877 [12:21] <Wug> or not doing, as the case may be
#878 [12:22] <tobi> everytime there is fatal error occured(4): Unable to download jinput.jar Retrieving: lwjgl.jar 20 %
#879 [12:23] <stomper> ok wug
#880 [12:23] <stomper> i got it downloaded
#881 [12:24] <tobi> what can i do now??
#882 [12:24] <Wug> stomper: follow the rest of the instructions
#883 [12:24] <Wug> tobi: can you disable any antivirus programs you might have and try to update again?
#884 [12:26] <tobi> that doesn´t work either
#885 [12:27] <stomper> wait im confused wug am i supposed to put the partner ID as that ?
#886 [12:28] <Wug> stomper: no, send me the id
#887 [12:28] <stomper> my id ?
#888 [12:28] <stomper> my id ?
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#892 [12:41] <mib_5vspnm> when I start to play it don't start but I read this: fatal error occured (4): null
#893 [12:41] <mib_5vspnm> what can I do?
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#895 [12:42] <mib_5vspnm> can somebody help me?
#896 [12:42] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecraft
#897 [12:43] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecraft
#898 [12:43] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecraft
#899 [12:43] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecraft
#900 [12:43] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecraft
#901 [12:43] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecraft
#902 [12:43] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecrafthow do you get more memory on minecrafthow do you get more memory on minecrafthow do you get more memory on minecrafthow do you get more memory on minecraft
#903 [12:43] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecraft
#904 [12:43] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecraft
#905 [12:43] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecraft
#906 [12:43] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecraft
#907 [12:44] <mib_5vspnm> mh it looks that nobody know it...
#908 [12:44] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecraft
#909 [12:44] <zippity> how do you get more memory on minecraft
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#912 [12:47] <froglegstew> when I installed a mod and after that minecraft doesen't start, what can I do to repair?
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#915 [12:53] <montezuma> STILL HAVE ICONS FOR GAME BUT ALL THE REST SEEMED TO VANISH. FILES STILL THERE AND WHEN WE CLICK ON THEM IT FAILS TO OPEN
#916 [12:54] <montezuma> IS THER A WAY TO REDOWNLOAD WHOLE GAME? WE DID PAY ONCEALREADY AND SON REALLY MISS IT
#917 [12:54] <oldtopman> montezuma: Please press that caps lock key and repeat yourself, kthx
#918 [12:55] <Wug> :client > montezuma
#919 [12:55] <WugBot> montezuma: (client) You can download the client by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe ) (For Linux: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ) (For OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip )
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#921 [12:55] <montezuma> still have icons and file but will not open. can we re download without repaying. my son really misses game
#922 [12:55] <Wug> :client > montezuma
#923 [12:55] <WugBot> montezuma: (client) You can download the client by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe ) (For Linux: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ) (For OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip )
#924 [12:58] <oldtopman> ??> montezuma win/reinst/bat
#925 [12:58] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#926 [12:58] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
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#929 [13:07] <stomper> :browsers
#930 [13:07] <WugBot> browsers: Don't use Internet Explorer or Safari, each has a set of irritating issues that interfere with minecraft. Use one of the following instead:
#931 [13:07] <WugBot> browsers: Firefox: http://mozilla.org/en-US/ -- Chrome: http://google.com/chrome -- Opera: http://www.opera.com/
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#935 [13:17] <Losthoro> hello?
#936 [13:17] <Losthoro> i have a problem ?
#937 [13:18] <Losthoro> minecraft classic error :fatal error occured (4)
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#939 [13:18] <GreyVulpine> Full text of the error please
#940 [13:18] <Losthoro> ok mom
#941 [13:20] <CYPH3R> o_O
#942 [13:20] <CYPH3R> GreyVulpine you know about the hardware side of servers?
#943 [13:21] <CYPH3R> and the operating systems
#944 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#945 [13:21] <CYPH3R> Dell poweredge 2600, 2 physical processors
#946 [13:21] <CYPH3R> minecraft only runs on one
#947 [13:21] * GreyVulpine nods
#947 [13:22] <CYPH3R> id like it to use both
#948 [13:22] <GreyVulpine> The Minecraft server doesn't take advantage of multiple cores
#949 [13:22] <CYPH3R> ah
#950 [13:22] <CYPH3R> so i can run a server per core with no power loss
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#952 [13:23] <Losthoro> An error occured while loading the applets.Pleas contact support to resolve this issue.Fat error occured(4).Unable to get input stream for lwjgl_applet.jar.pack
#953 [13:23] <Wug> <GreyVulpine> The Minecraft server doesn't take advantage of multiple cores
#954 [13:23] <Wug> not well anyway
#955 [13:23] * GreyVulpine nods
#955 [13:23] <Wug> it does sortof try
#956 [13:23] <CYPH3R> lol
#957 [13:23] <Wug> theres a network read and write thread for each player
#958 [13:23] <Wug> but all of the heavy work is done by one thread
#959 [13:23] <CYPH3R> hmmm
#960 [13:24] <CYPH3R> interesting
#961 [13:24] <Losthoro> and what i doining now?
#962 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Losthoro - Try uninstalling and reinstalling java. If that doesn't work, look into your security software
#963 [13:25] <Losthoro> java is akttual
#964 [13:25] <CYPH3R> is there a particular OS that it might run better on?
#965 [13:25] <CYPH3R> or just go back to server 2003
#966 [13:26] <Wug> CYPH3R: lots of programs have a limitation of only being able to run on one physical processor
#967 [13:26] <CYPH3R> well true
#968 [13:26] <Wug> maybe all programs even, I think its a per process limitation
#969 [13:26] <Losthoro> firewall is out no working
#970 [13:26] <CYPH3R> but most dont take as much power as minecraft when i make 22k blocks of tnt :-P
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#972 [13:27] <Losthoro> problem is not away
#973 [13:27] <Losthoro> not working
#974 [13:28] <Wug> I think teamviewer's just decided its not going to work anymore
#975 [13:28] <Wug> what a dick
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#977 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Losthoro - Did you uninstall java and reinstall it?
#978 [13:28] <Losthoro> yes 3 a time
#979 [13:29] <Losthoro> sry my english is bad
#980 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> You've completely uninstalled java from your computer, and installed it fresh from java.com?
#981 [13:29] <Losthoro> yes
#982 [13:29] <Wug> Losthoro: try a different browser?
#983 [13:30] <Losthoro> ok
#984 [13:32] <Losthoro> not work
#985 [13:33] <Wug> are you playing classic or beta
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#987 [13:33] <Losthoro> classic and beta i have the orginal version
#988 [13:34] <Wug> yeah, but which one are you trying to play right now
#989 [13:36] <Losthoro> classic
#990 [13:37] <Wug> I'm really bad at troubleshooting classic
#991 [13:37] <Wug> you've tried disabling all security software? firewalls, scanners, everything
#992 [13:37] <Losthoro> oh
#993 [13:37] <Losthoro> yes
#994 [13:38] <Losthoro> and now?
#995 [13:39] <Wug> if it fails to download those files it usually means they get stopped by a virus scanner or something
#996 [13:40] <Losthoro> firewall is out
#997 [13:40] <Losthoro> not working
#998 [13:40] <Losthoro> I am going to play beta
#999 [13:40] <Losthoro> have you a server?
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#1001 [13:43] <stomper> wug it still doesnt work
#1002 [13:44] <Wug> stomper: click start, then right click my computer and choose properties
#1003 [13:45] <stomper> k
#1004 [13:45] <Wug> go to the hardware tab and click 'device manager'
#1005 [13:46] <Wug> stomper: ^
#1006 [13:46] <stomper> k
#1007 [13:46] <Wug> in the display adapter section, there should be an entry for the ati radeon x1150 or whatever it was
#1008 [13:46] <Wug> right click it and choose properties
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#1010 [13:47] <stomper> k
#1011 [13:47] <Wug> does it say "this device is working properly"?
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#1013 [13:47] <stomper> yeah
#1014 [13:47] <Wug> then the hardware doesnt support minecraft :(
#1015 [13:48] <Wug> the driver is installed and working, but it still doesnt
#1016 [13:48] <Wug> run
#1017 [13:48] <stomper> yeah
#1018 [13:48] * Wug sqozzs TheBadShepperd
#1018 [13:48] * TheBadShepperd is sqozzed all over~
#1018 [13:48] <Wug> stomper: unfortunately, your only option is a hardware upgrade, or using a different computer
#1019 [13:48] * Wug would clean off the sqozz but it evaporates rapidly
#1019 [13:49] <Wug> so its probably already gone
#1020 [13:49] <stomper> oh
#1021 [13:49] <stomper> ok ty for all the help youve given
#1022 [13:49] <Wug> sorry it didnt work
#1023 [13:49] <stomper> my cpu is running alot faster so thats good :)
#1024 [13:49] <stomper> its fine u help me alot :)
#1025 [13:50] <stomper> helped*
#1026 [13:50] <Wug> at least you have firefox now
#1027 [13:50] <Wug> use that instead of IE whenever possible
#1028 [13:50] <stomper> yeah
#1029 [13:50] <stomper> ok
#1030 [13:51] <stomper> i used to have it and it made my computer slow but now it seems even faster :)
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#1032 [13:53] <stomper> ok thank you for the help cya later
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#1035 [14:00] <mib_9rd3p7> hey i have a error that says that i have bad drivers but i dont want to spend 30$ on driver software any help?
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#1037 [14:02] <mib_4hv81f> ever time i go on minecraft classic it says fatal error occured why does it say this
#1038 [14:03] <mib_4hv81f> please help me
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#1040 [14:16] <bellows> minecraft.exe file won't load for me.
#1041 [14:17] <Wug> did you download it with internet explorer
#1042 [14:17] <bellows> no firefox
#1043 [14:17] <Wug> IE likes to strip the file extension sometimes
#1044 [14:17] <Wug> how does it fail? any error messages?
#1045 [14:18] <bellows> no when i click to run it it comes up and disappears really fast
#1046 [14:21] <bellows> and sometimes it doesn't come up at all
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#1054 [15:15] <mr_evil> yo how do u fix black screen after log in on win xp?
#1055 [15:16] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're running the latest java 6, update video drivers
#1056 [15:17] <CYPH3R> i was thinking paint
#1057 [15:18] <mr_evil> my video drivers are up to date and im running java 7
#1058 [15:19] <GreyVulpine> Java 7 has been known to cause problems, hence why we recommend java 6
#1059 [15:20] <mr_evil> ok thanks how would i download an older ver of java
#1060 [15:20] <GreyVulpine> :j
#1061 [15:20] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#1062 [15:20] <mr_evil> thank you
#1063 [15:20] <mr_evil> for 32 bit would i dl x86?
#1064 [15:21] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#1066 [15:22] <mr_evil> k
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#1068 [15:22] <mr_evil> should i get offline or online?
#1069 [15:23] <GreyVulpine> Either will work
#1070 [15:23] <mr_evil> ok thanks
#1071 [15:25] <mr_evil> shud i restart computer for effects to take place?
#1072 [15:25] <CYPH3R> so, GreyVulpine, do you ever have time for anything else thats not this room?
#1073 [15:25] <CYPH3R> like PLAYING minecraft
#1074 [15:26] <GreyVulpine> What do you think I'm doing besides #minecrafthelp? I've got 2 other computer monitors pulled up at once besides this one.
#1075 [15:27] <CYPH3R> fair enough, just making sure
#1076 [15:27] <CYPH3R> :-P
#1077 [15:27] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1077 [15:28] <CYPH3R> and a glorious hat it is sir
#1078 [15:28] <mr_evil> yo grey i still get black screen. do i need to restart pc?
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#1080 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> Did you uninstall all versions of java before installing java 6?
#1081 [15:28] <mr_evil> javaq link was Jre tho
#1082 [15:28] <GreyVulpine> the JRE is correct
#1083 [15:29] <CYPH3R> mr_evil did you install any client mods?
#1084 [15:29] <mr_evil> no mods
#1085 [15:29] <CYPH3R> hm
#1086 [15:29] <CYPH3R> at what point does it blackscreen?
#1087 [15:29] <mr_evil> on pc after login
#1088 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Has it worked before?
#1089 [15:29] <mr_evil> i have j2se runtime 5.0
#1090 [15:29] <mr_evil> java tm 6
#1091 [15:29] <mr_evil> and
#1092 [15:30] <mr_evil> java tm 7
#1093 [15:30] <Wug> dear god
#1094 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> You may want to uninstall all java from your system, so that you can reinstall java fresh
#1095 [15:30] <mr_evil> k
#1096 [15:30] <Wug> get rid of anything thats not the most recent version of 6
#1097 [15:30] <CYPH3R> lol
#1098 [15:30] <CYPH3R> wow
#1099 [15:30] <GreyVulpine> Would minimize any risk of older or corrupt files from java
#1100 [15:30] <mr_evil> so delete all java then reinstall?
#1101 [15:30] * GreyVulpine nods
#1101 [15:30] <mr_evil> k
#1102 [15:31] <mr_evil> do i need to restart after installation?
#1103 [15:31] <mr_evil> also im not sure what is is but i got java db
#1104 [15:31] <mr_evil> shud i remove that oo
#1105 [15:31] <CYPH3R> remove everything
#1106 [15:31] <CYPH3R> and let it all reinstall clean
#1107 [15:32] <mr_evil> even java db?
#1108 [15:32] <CYPH3R> everything
#1109 [15:32] <mr_evil> k
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#1111 [15:33] <mr_evil> k i removed all java and im reinstalling java 6
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#1113 [15:35] <mr_evil> ok now all i have is java tm 6
#1114 [15:36] <GreyVulpine> Try minecraft now
#1115 [15:36] <mr_evil> k
#1116 [15:37] <mr_evil> same problem
#1117 [15:37] <CYPH3R> hm
#1118 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> What version of windows are you on?
#1119 [15:38] <CYPH3R> win xp?
#1120 [15:38] <mr_evil> ye
#1121 [15:38] <CYPH3R> have you tried redownloading the game files?
#1122 [15:38] <mr_evil> ill try agen
#1123 [15:38] <GreyVulpine> Head to your start menu, go to the Run command. Type in: %appdata%
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#1125 [15:39] <mr_evil> delete whole foder?
#1126 [15:39] <mr_evil> folder*
#1127 [15:39] <GreyVulpine> Look for the .minecraft folder. Go inside, delete the bin/resource/ and texturepacks folders, then run minecraft again
#1128 [15:39] <mr_evil> k
#1129 [15:40] <mr_evil> it updated and then went black screen
#1130 [15:41] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. How did you make sure your video drivers were up to date?
#1131 [15:41] <CYPH3R> will it let you run the browser version?
#1132 [15:41] <mr_evil> sec
#1133 [15:42] <mr_evil> in browser the screen doesnt even pop up and non java prompt
#1134 [15:45] <CYPH3R> then you likely have a java issue
#1135 [15:45] <CYPH3R> not minecraft issue
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#1137 [15:49] <CYPH3R> oh he left :-\
#1138 [15:49] <CYPH3R> i was still pondering
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#1141 [15:53] <yoshi> k srry guide my internet dced
#1142 [15:53] <yoshi> guys*
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#1144 [15:53] <CYPH3R> mk
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#1146 [15:55] <yoshi> k so i will try browser
#1147 [15:55] <yoshi> browser doesnt even open minecraft screen
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#1153 [16:06] <Britain> Ok ok, So how would I update everything on my laptop then?
#1154 [16:07] <T1ger> anyone ther?
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#1157 [16:10] <CYPH3R> eh?
#1158 [16:11] <T1ger> k cypher i tried the browser
#1159 [16:11] <T1ger> but it doesnt even load up the minecraft screen
#1160 [16:12] <CYPH3R> uninstall all versions from java from your pc
#1161 [16:12] <CYPH3R> and go get java 6
#1162 [16:12] <T1ger> i did alredy
#1163 [16:12] <T1ger> the only java program on my pc is
#1164 [16:13] <T1ger> java tm 6 update 29
#1165 [16:13] <CYPH3R> hm
#1166 [16:13] <CYPH3R> i really dont know
#1167 [16:13] <CYPH3R> maybe one the ops can try something else
#1168 [16:13] <T1ger> k thx
#1169 [16:13] <T1ger> anyone ther :o
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#1176 [16:28] <mib_15yp8p> hi i need help my minecraft froze when updating i am stuck be cause it says done loading and then it froze
#1177 [16:29] <lemon-rev> mib_15yp8p can you tell me if its windows / mac machine ?
#1178 [16:29] <mib_15yp8p> it is windows
#1179 [16:29] <lemon-rev> mib_15yp8p can you goto java.com and try and update
#1180 [16:30] <mib_15yp8p> sure
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#1182 [16:38] <H4KU> hey i have a problem with minecraft
#1183 [16:39] <H4KU> last week i purchase minecraft but if i log in the game it only shows "user nor premium"
#1184 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> Did you get any confirmation emails? Did you purchase minecraft from minecraft.net?
#1185 [16:40] <H4KU> no email and yes on micecraft.net
#1186 [16:40] <H4KU> *minecraft
#1187 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> You may want to contact your financial institution and see if they have a record of payment for minecraft going to Mojang AB
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#1189 [16:42] <H4KU> how can i join im new in this programm
#1190 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> Join what?
#1191 [16:42] <zelda> Hi. This might be a bit of a noob question, but I recently bought Minecraft and it will only run Beta 1.8.1 and I'd like to run the 1.9 version on it. I tried creating new worlds, but it won't update. What do I do for it to update?
#1192 [16:43] <H4KU> this financial instution and mojang ab
#1193 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> zelda - 1.9 is only out on buggy pre-releases. You have to download them manually. 1.8.1 is the latest stable release
#1194 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> H4KU - What did you use to pay for minecraft?
#1195 [16:43] <H4KU> ec elv
#1196 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> H4KU - You'll have to contact EC elv then, make sure payment was made for minecraft
#1197 [16:43] <zelda> Oh, I see. Do you know where I would could download it manually?
#1198 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1199 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> ?? 1.9
#1200 [16:44] <VoxelHead> 1.9: The 1.9 releases are not supported as they are known to be buggy and unstable. If you want to use them anyhow:
#1201 [16:44] <Fiya> check your bank account if there has been a payment to mojang ab
#1202 [16:44] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft.jar -- 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft_server.jar
#1203 [16:44] <zelda> Ah, I see. Thanks a bunch.
#1204 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to replace the minecraft.jar found in your .minecraft/bin/ folder with the one found above
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#1206 [16:44] <H4KU> yes the money was transfered
#1207 [16:44] <zelda> Ok, will do
#1208 [16:44] <zelda> Ok, will do
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#1210 [16:45] <Fiya> never knew you coul duse ELV to pay for MC Oo
#1211 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> H4KU - Did you buy an account, or a gift code. Make sure you're logging into the correct account that you purchased minecraft under. Also, check the profile page for any gift codes. Some people mistakenly buy a code instead of an account
#1212 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> If you do not know what username you purchased minecraft under, you can use: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#1213 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> Put in all the email addresses you currently use.
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#1215 [16:48] <H4KU> the name is correct and i sure that i buy an account
#1216 [16:48] <H4KU> could it be a problem that i have buy 2 accounts with the same bank acount?
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#1218 [16:49] <Fiya> don't think that would be a problem
#1219 [16:50] <montezuma> how do i reset my controls, theve gone different and i cant reset them to the default? help please
#1220 [16:50] <zkxs> montezuma, you could delete the options file
#1221 [16:51] <zkxs> do you use windows?
#1222 [16:51] <montezuma> how
#1223 [16:51] <montezuma> yes
#1224 [16:52] <zkxs> ??> montezuma win/.minecraft
#1225 [16:52] <VoxelHead> montezuma: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#1226 [16:52] <zkxs> within the .minecraft folder, there will be a file named 'options.txt'
#1227 [16:52] <zkxs> you just delete that
#1228 [16:53] <montezuma> ok
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#1230 [16:54] <zkxs> that will reset all of your settings. if you only want to delete the key settings, you can open options.txt and delete the lines starting with 'key_key'
#1231 [16:54] <H4KU> .....
#1232 [16:54] <mib_eu8ud1> Does anyone know how I could solve a problem with my mouse? It goes outta control every time I log into the game, could someone help?
#1233 [16:55] <zkxs> ?? phantominput
#1234 [16:55] <VoxelHead> phantominput: If you installed 'Constant Guard by Comcast' and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, uninstall it. This is a known issue.
#1235 [16:55] <mib_eu8ud1> How would I find that?
#1236 [16:56] <zkxs> mib_eu8ud1, do you have Constant Guard?
#1237 [16:56] <mib_eu8ud1> I do not know what that is.
#1238 [16:56] <H4KU> how can i contact somebody who can look cause my purchase problem?
#1239 [16:57] <zkxs> ?? payment
#1240 [16:57] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1241 [16:57] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#1242 [16:57] <zkxs> mib_eu8ud1, can you get to the add or remove programs menu?
#1243 [16:57] <mib_eu8ud1> Uhh, probably not.
#1244 [16:58] <zkxs> are you and administrator?
#1245 [16:58] <H4KU> but i purchase 7 days ago
#1246 [16:58] <mib_eu8ud1> no
#1247 [16:58] <zkxs> H4KU, you can try this: http://minecraft.net/support
#1248 [16:58] <mib_eu8ud1> on my computer? yes
#1249 [16:59] <mib_eu8ud1> Oh i got to the add/remove programs
#1250 [16:59] <mib_eu8ud1> what do i do now?
#1251 [17:00] <zkxs> mib_eu8ud1, is Constant Guard by Comcast there?
#1252 [17:00] <mib_eu8ud1> no
#1253 [17:01] <zkxs> do you use the launcher or do you play in browser?
#1254 [17:01] <mib_eu8ud1> launcher
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#1256 [17:02] <zkxs> mib_eu8ud1, the problem here is that some application is blocking part of minecraft's mouse input code
#1257 [17:02] <mib_eu8ud1> how would i locate that program?
#1258 [17:03] <zkxs> it would probably be something security related, aka antivirus. what AV do you use?
#1259 [17:03] <mib_eu8ud1> AVG
#1260 [17:03] <zkxs> huh, i use avg on my windows computers and it doesn't give me any issues
#1261 [17:04] <zkxs> what do you mean by 'outta control'?
#1262 [17:04] <mib_eu8ud1> my virus protection needs to update, do you think that might solve some issues? and by outta control i mean everytime i touch the mouse i spin in circles and cant look up
#1263 [17:05] <zkxs> it can't hurt to update avg
#1264 [17:06] <mib_eu8ud1> it also does it when i am in the browser
#1265 [17:08] <zkxs> what version of java are you running?
#1266 [17:08] <zkxs> ?? java/version
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#1268 [17:08] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1269 [17:08] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1270 [17:10] <mib_eu8ud1> i have the recommended version, java 7
#1271 [17:10] <zkxs> hmm
#1272 [17:11] <zkxs> what happens if you temporarily disable avg?
#1273 [17:11] <zkxs> this sounds a lot like some security software is interfering
#1274 [17:11] <|Kiikun|> or java 7 not liking you.
#1275 [17:12] <zkxs> :j
#1276 [17:12] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#1277 [17:12] <zkxs> ah
#1278 [17:12] <|Kiikun|> oh.. wait... i remember someone whit this crazymouse issue... think it was mouse drivers...
#1279 [17:13] <mib_eu8ud1> how do i fix those?
#1280 [17:13] * |Kiikun| logdives!
#1280 [17:14] <zkxs> i don't mib_eu8ud1, are you sure it is java7?
#1281 [17:15] <mib_eu8ud1> yeh
#1282 [17:15] <zkxs> are you a developer? i don't think 7 is out yet...
#1283 [17:16] <mib_eu8ud1> i have the most recent version of java
#1284 [17:16] <WugBot> mib_eu8ud1: (j) Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#1285 [17:16] <mib_eu8ud1> its 6.29
#1286 [17:16] <zkxs> ah
#1287 [17:16] <zkxs> that is different from 7
#1288 [17:17] <zkxs> do you use an unusual mouse?
#1289 [17:17] <|Kiikun|> java 7 IS out in beta
#1290 [17:18] <|Kiikun|> you can get it by clicking a few more links :P
#1291 [17:18] <mib_eu8ud1> no, at least i dont think, i have a t410 lenovo thinkpad that has the red mouse button in the middle
#1292 [17:18] <zkxs> |Kiikun|, did you find anything about those drivers?
#1293 [17:19] <|Kiikun|> still logdiving to find the person i remember with the issue
#1294 [17:21] <zkxs> mib_eu8ud1, do you have more than one monitor?
#1295 [17:22] <mib_eu8ud1> no
#1296 [17:22] <zkxs> hmm, it isn't that then...
#1297 [17:22] * zkxs researches
#1297 [17:22] <|Kiikun|> cant find it :/
#1298 [17:23] <zkxs> it sounds like the mouse centering is off
#1299 [17:24] <mib_eu8ud1> hm
#1300 [17:26] <zkxs> mib_eu8ud1, do you have another mouse you can plug in and test?
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#1302 [17:27] <|Kiikun|> worst case test... disable mouse.. enable windows' accessability option mousekeys thing
#1303 [17:27] <zkxs> |Kiikun|, he left
#1304 [17:27] <|Kiikun|> aw.
#1305 [17:27] <zkxs> D:
#1306 [17:28] <zkxs> maybe he is rebooting? </hopeful> RAGE QUIT
#1307 [17:28] <Kealper> http://www.americancensorship.org/ D:
#1308 [17:29] <Kealper> i hope a lot of websites do that...there are so many people who are not aware of SOPA who really should be
#1309 [17:29] <zkxs> lol, that block picture is just a js overlay
#1310 [17:29] <zkxs> i could kill it in 2 clicks
#1311 [17:30] <Kealper> ehh, not sure you read what it is
#1312 [17:30] <Kealper> that is just a demonstration that website owners can put on their sites for that day
#1313 [17:30] <zkxs> yeah, i read it. I just found the picture somewhat humorous. reminds me of NYT's paywall
#1314 [17:31] <|Kiikun|> zkxs: a websitye thats become 'blocked' (they have refused to use the word blacklist so it cant be called the internet blacklist bill anymore) will have their DNS redirected to government site sayign the page is blocvked.. and probably without any reason why... like LAST time
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#1316 [17:31] <Kealper> it's basically just to raise awareness about SOPA and give the general public an idea of an extreme case of the bill should it pass
#1317 [17:31] * |Kiikun| is already a member of demand progress
#1317 [17:32] * Kealper brofists |Kiikun|
#1317 [17:32] <zkxs> I wonder how many sites will participate
#1318 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't there something like this in the works before?
#1319 [17:32] <|Kiikun|> GreyVulpine: repeatedly..
#1320 [17:32] * GreyVulpine nods
#1320 [17:32] <|Kiikun|> ProtectIP...
#1321 [17:33] <Kealper> but the only problem is this one has learned from the others' mistakes, and has a real chance of passing
#1322 [17:33] <|Kiikun|> then there was that 'we hate child pornography.. but this bill has absolutely nothign to do with child pornography... but vote for it because we hate child pornography' bill
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#1324 [17:34] <oldtopman> Anyone else doing that americancensorship thing with me? :D
#1325 [17:34] <Kealper> oldtopman: i'll be on both of my websites lol
#1326 [17:34] <|Kiikun|> im already on DP.
#1327 [17:34] * oldtopman brofists Kealper
#1327 [17:35] <oldtopman> Kealper: Do you follow @eff on twitter?
#1328 [17:35] <Kealper> i don't really use twitter much at all lol
#1329 [17:35] <|Kiikun|> i dont have any websites besides kiichan.is-a-geek.net :P which is just my server
#1330 [17:35] <oldtopman> ^
#1331 [17:35] <oldtopman> Every little bit counts I suppose.
#1332 [17:36] <|Kiikun|> i dont have traffic :P
#1333 [17:36] <|Kiikun|> i have a net negative traffic :P
#1334 [17:37] <Kealper> <brag>one of the websites i have is cool enough to actually cost more per year for it's domain than a usual .net</brag>
#1335 [17:37] <oldtopman> Kealper: Which would be?
#1336 [17:37] <Kealper> but i'm sure as hell not saying it in here...last time i put a website in here i got DDoSed, so quite literally fuck that shit
#1337 [17:38] <oldtopman> Kealper: Could you PM me the address?
#1338 [17:38] <oldtopman> wait, ddosed?
#1339 [17:38] <Kealper> yes, my personal site that runs out of my house got me DDoSed multiple times after i said it in here one day
#1340 [17:38] <oldtopman> PEOPLE, FREE PORN AND LIVE CAMS AT http://topcraftia.no-ip.org/
#1341 [17:38] <Kealper> rofl
#1342 [17:38] * |Kiikun| clicks!
#1342 [17:38] * GreyVulpine almost did a !k
#1342 [17:39] <Kealper> "It works!"
#1343 [17:39] <|Kiikun|> oldtopman: apparently it works.
#1344 [17:39] <oldtopman> indeed
#1345 [17:39] <Kealper> yay for Apache installs!
#1346 [17:39] <|Kiikun|> now put somethign there, lazyass!
#1347 [17:39] <oldtopman> :P
#1348 [17:39] <|Kiikun|> or you need a web designer? :P
#1349 [17:39] * oldtopman learned lua instead of html
#1349 [17:39] <Kealper> html basics are a must-know D:
#1350 [17:40] <oldtopman> I know HTML!
#1351 [17:40] <zkxs> html is a unique language in that it makes the ugliest documents know to man
#1352 [17:40] <oldtopman> topcraftia.no-ip.org/oldtopman
#1353 [17:40] <oldtopman> See, it doesn't say "It Works!"
#1354 [17:40] <oldtopman> >.>
#1355 [17:40] <Kealper> zkxs: i think the main problem is that HTML is the most non-strict language ever invented lol
#1356 [17:40] <Kealper> so people have a tendancy to write it badly
#1357 [17:41] <|Kiikun|> <html><head><title>I R Teh Title!</title></head><body><h1>I R Teh body!</h1></body></html>
#1358 [17:41] <zkxs> so boxy, and don't even get me started on <hr>
#1359 [17:41] <oldtopman> If anyone is willing to make a page that has an image on it, followed by some text, I'd be much obliged.
#1360 [17:42] <oldtopman> Otherwise, "It Works!" shall have oto suffice
#1361 [17:42] <zkxs> <html><head><title>I R Teh Title!</title></head><body><h1>I R Teh body!</h1><img href="image-url" /></body></html>
#1362 [17:42] * |Kiikun| is a few classes away from having a digital arts degree in multimedia/web
#1362 [17:43] <Kealper> oldtopman: i sent you a link to it in query to said site, not sure if you noticed lol
#1363 [17:43] <|Kiikun|> did for class
#1364 [17:43] <|Kiikun|> http://kiichan.is-a-geek.net/
#1365 [17:43] <Kealper> |Kiikun|: seeing as you're a few classes away from being a learned scholar on this subject...how do you feel about HTML5?
#1366 [17:43] <oldtopman> Q.Q
#1367 [17:43] <|Kiikun|> did years ago for fanfics :P http://kiichan.is-a-geek.net/~kiichan/
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#1369 [17:44] <Kealper> why is that site done in PHP if it's just static HTML? lol
#1370 [17:44] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: i have no idea :D havent taken any deep html classes... we just used dreamweaver whern i wasnt directly editing the html
#1371 [17:44] <Kealper> oh :<
#1372 [17:45] <Kealper> i write out my websites in a text editor, does that make me hardcore?
#1373 [17:45] <zkxs> yes
#1374 [17:45] <oldtopman> Totally.
#1375 [17:45] <|Kiikun|> Kealper: i used to :P the ~kiichan stuff was i think.
#1376 [17:45] <oldtopman> You're badass if you do it on one w/o syntax highlighting
#1377 [17:45] <zkxs> everything is hardcore in plain text. example: Dwarf Fortress
#1378 [17:46] <Kealper> i guess i'm a badass then LOL
#1379 [17:46] <Kealper> lemme snag an example of something i recently did which was entirely done in a text-editor
#1380 [17:46] <|Kiikun|> lol.
#1381 [17:48] <Kealper> also, derp, forgot to put http:// in front of those when i sent out said notices...
#1382 [17:48] <zkxs> the source code is beautiful
#1383 [17:48] <Kealper> and that is why i like doing everything out of a text editor lol
#1384 [17:48] <zkxs> dreamweaver's generates source looks like something a penguin vomited out
#1385 [17:48] <zkxs> *generated
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#1387 [17:49] <Kealper> and the entire thing can be re-themed with only edits to that style.css
#1388 [17:49] <Kealper> (how it should be.)
#1389 [17:49] <Kealper> lol
#1390 [17:50] * zkxs just noticed the hover links aren't images :O
#1390 [17:50] <Scott> don't use dreamweaver?
#1391 [17:50] <Kealper> the only image on that entire site is just that ribbon behind it's title
#1392 [17:51] <Kealper> everything else is just HTML5 and CSS3 lol
#1393 [17:51] <Kealper> and not a single table is used on that site, it's all <div> and <span> lol
#1394 [17:52] <zkxs> the contact link doesn't look like it is the right place... ftp://3545.no-ip.org/kealper.png
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#1396 [17:52] <zkxs> is that just me?
#1397 [17:52] <MriPadKid> Hello!
#1398 [17:52] <Kealper> oh
#1399 [17:52] <Kealper> you're on linux....
#1400 [17:52] <zkxs> yep ;)
#1401 [17:52] <MriPadKid> I am on vista :D
#1402 [17:53] <Kealper> yeah, basically all distros i've tried it on screw that up because their default font is the monospaced one...lemme throw a static font into the css
#1403 [17:53] <MriPadKid> what are you guys talkin about?
#1404 [17:54] <Scott> Kealper: Can I make my IRC client auto replace Kealper with Mr. Piper?
#1405 [17:54] <Kealper> Scott: rofl
#1406 [17:54] <Scott> better yet Mister Piper.
#1407 [17:54] <zkxs> MriPadKid, we're talking about html
#1408 [17:54] <Scott> you have old version of ubuntu
#1409 [17:54] <TheNytangel> Contact is in the right place for me
#1410 [17:55] <zkxs> me?
#1411 [17:55] <Scott> ye
#1412 [17:55] <zkxs> LTS
#1413 [17:55] <Scott> I wish 12.04 would hurry :(
#1414 [17:55] <MriPadKid> i very little about HTML
#1415 [17:55] <Scott> Elementary OS won't update until then.
#1416 [17:55] <zkxs> I don't like 11, unity bugs me
#1417 [17:55] <Kealper> TheNytangel: it'll work fine for all sites that don't have a monospaced font as their default font...fixing that now though so it looks the same on any setup
#1418 [17:56] <zkxs> Scott, did you somehow deduce my version from the screenie?
#1419 [17:56] <Scott> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/ubuntu.png
#1420 [17:56] <Scott> I knew you were at least 2 versions behind.
#1421 [17:56] <zkxs> I'm 10.04
#1422 [17:57] <Scott> right
#1423 [17:57] <MriPadKid> So, can someone explain to me, linux
#1424 [17:57] <Scott> I rarely use Linux for desktop use now.
#1425 [17:57] * Scott snuggles his mac.
#1425 [17:57] <MriPadKid> wow
#1426 [17:58] <zkxs> I tried 11, but unity kinda bugs me
#1427 [17:58] <Kealper> Scott: speaking of apple..i played around with an iphone 4s in the mall recently....i want one now :<
#1428 [17:58] <Scott> lol
#1429 [17:58] <Scott> I don't use Unity.
#1430 [17:58] <MriPadKid> what exactly is different about linux?
#1431 [17:58] <Scott> My fiancé does though.
#1432 [17:58] <Scott> i use GNOME-Shell.
#1433 [17:59] <Scott> Which you can see in the above screenshot
#1434 [17:59] <Scott> MriPadKid: Linux is a monolithic kernel.
#1435 [17:59] <zkxs> i didn't like the new scroll either
#1436 [17:59] <Scott> !wiki Linux
#1437 [17:59] <MriPadKid> now what is a monolithic kernel?
#1438 [17:59] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
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#1440 [17:59] <GreyBot> Linux ( /ˈlɪnəks/ lin-əks, also pronounced /ˈlɪnʊks/ lin-uuks) is a Unix-like computer operating system assembled under the model of free and open source software development and distribution. The defining component of any Linux system is the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released October 5, 1991 by Linus Torvalds.[10][11]
#1441 [17:59] <GreyBot> Linux system distributions may vary in many details of system operation, configuration, and software package selections.
#1442 [18:00] <zkxs> silly vox
#1443 [18:00] <Scott> I like them but then again I'm used to using a mac.
#1444 [18:00] * GreyVulpine grumbles
#1444 [18:00] * GreyVulpine kicks Vox
#1444 [18:00] <Scott> Can we do something about VoxelHead muting ops?
#1445 [18:01] <Kealper> ^ please
#1446 [18:01] <Kealper> better yet
#1447 [18:01] * Scott prods DopeGhoti
#1447 [18:01] <Kealper> can we get vox on it's own nickserv account so i can rageban it properly
#1448 [18:01] <Scott> lol.
#1449 [18:02] <|Kiikun|> Scott: it really doesnt matter... ops can still speak muted :P
#1450 [18:02] <|Kiikun|> if anything its just to lessen clutter?
#1451 [18:02] <Scott> It creates unnecessary noise though. I'm well aware that that doesn't affect us.
#1452 [18:02] <Kealper> it should ignore op and voice, as +q doesn't affect either
#1453 [18:03] <Scott> It is no better than people changing their name to reflect AFKness.
#1454 [18:03] <Scott> or announcing their away.
#1455 [18:04] * |Kiikun| never seat away for any reason.. :D
#1455 [18:05] <Scott> http://minecraftirc.net/thread-28.html :D
#1456 [18:05] <Kealper> i just have a plugin on my irssi so when i'm completely detached from screen on all sessions it'll set a silent away
#1457 [18:06] <Kealper> if people need me and i'm detached, they'll know when they query me lol
#1458 [18:06] <TheNytangel> If we paid $104 a month for internet, it would take less than a half an hour to upload a 3GB file.... I want that internet D:
#1459 [18:06] <Scott> my bouncer sets me as away when i disconnect
#1460 [18:06] <|Kiikun|> or we just go "Kealper! Banhammer!" and no response means your away :P
#1461 [18:06] <Kealper> ^
#1462 [18:06] <Kealper> screen is my bouncer lol
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#1464 [18:07] <Scott> My favorite part of this is: If you don't think these guidelines are reasonable, or don't think that anyone else has a right to judge either what you say or how you choose to say it, this probably is not the channel for you.
#1465 [18:07] <gamakichi> It says I need to update my drivers but I do not know how to do that. Can anyone help?
#1466 [18:07] <Scott> sure!
#1467 [18:07] <Scott> What OS do you use?
#1468 [18:07] <Scott> ?? os
#1469 [18:07] <VoxelHead> os: Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
#1470 [18:08] <gamakichi> Windows XP
#1471 [18:08] <Scott> ??> gamakichi win/dxdiag
#1472 [18:08] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1473 [18:08] <VoxelHead> gamakichi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1474 [18:08] * GreyVulpine feels CAPSness should be rolled into the punctuation category as well
#1474 [18:09] <Scott> I think that's kinda common sense but I'll add it lol
#1475 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> And, could you use a different example than tolietry activities? -sleep or -school can be valid as well
#1476 [18:10] <Scott> Well, I didn't write that.
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#1478 [18:11] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1478 [18:11] <Scott> if you look at the bottom, it's a modified version of a linux groups etiquette
#1479 [18:12] <keret> When i try to play minecraft in multiplayer the screen turns black
#1480 [18:12] <keret> help anyone
#1481 [18:13] <gamakichi> I didn't get a redirect link after I pasted it.
#1482 [18:13] <Scott> There, GreyVulpine. I changed it ;)
#1483 [18:14] * GreyVulpine nods
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#1484 [18:15] <Kealper> bah, segoeui.ttf is like 506KB
#1485 [18:15] <gamakichi> http://pastebin.com/LpnZ67Cj
#1486 [18:16] <Kealper> meh, i'll trust http e-tags for this >.>
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#1488 [18:18] <zkxs> Kealper, it works now
#1489 [18:18] <Kealper> yeah, playing with what font i want now
#1490 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> gamakichi - You're running a Dell Dimension 3000 computer with Windows XP, on a Intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller
#1491 [18:18] <Kealper> ouch.
#1492 [18:19] <gamakichi> Yeah I am going to get a new one but not for a while so i'm stuck with it.
#1493 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> As I've checked Dell's site, and they don't have updated drivers there, you may have better luck with Intel's site. Latest drivers are here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=9498&ProdId=1044&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers
#1494 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> If those don't install, you may have to install it the hard way.
#1495 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Let one of us know if it doesn't.
#1496 [18:20] * GreyVulpine gives zip file version of those drivers when that happens ( http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=9506&ProdId=1044&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers )
#1496 [18:21] <gamakichi> I just downloaded it now what do I do?
#1497 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> Run the .exe to install the drivers
#1498 [18:21] * Kealper looks for a font family with only mild serifs
#1498 [18:22] <gamakichi> The driver cannot be installed on this computer. ERROR message appeared
#1499 [18:25] <gamakichi> Any help?
#1500 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, looks like your computer already has the latest drivers available out for that video chipset. 6.14.0010.4396 dated 9/20/2005 is the latest I can find on dell's and intel's site.
#1501 [18:26] <Kealper> yeah, i guess that font will do
#1502 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe there are any later drivers out.
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#1504 [18:27] <gamakichi> And I still can't play minecraft. Ain't that bout a bitch
#1505 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Computer seems just to be too old to run minecraft.
#1506 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> You may be better off trying minecraft on a newer computer.
#1507 [18:29] <gamakichi> Anyway can anyone suggest a good/cheap all around computer
#1508 [18:29] <Kealper> well, what do you consider "cheap"?
#1509 [18:29] <gamakichi> Probally below 600
#1510 [18:29] <gamakichi> dollars
#1511 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> That's not hard. Budget Desktops these days can start at 300 and up
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#1513 [18:30] <Kealper> one that will play Minecraft is probably going to be about $300, and one that can play it well enough to not be annoying is going to cost around $400-$500
#1514 [18:30] * GreyVulpine nods
#1514 [18:30] <gamakichi> I would like something that doesn't annoy me please and get 90+ or - FPS
#1515 [18:31] <Kealper> a $300 one will play it, but it will be a bit choppy (due to it having cheap graphics hardware to save money) but if it's a desktop one, that can be remedied by buying any fairly-new-looking graphics card
#1516 [18:32] <huddler> anyone have any suggestions abouthow to make minecraft run faster?
#1517 [18:32] <gamakichi> I need something I can surf the web and watch youtube maybe play games on under $600
#1518 [18:33] <huddler> besides changeing the graphics and stuff on the video settings
#1519 [18:33] <Kealper> gamakichi: with that sort of budget, honestly it should not be too hard, as computer prices are coming down quite a lot within the last few years
#1520 [18:33] <huddler> any suggedtions?
#1521 [18:34] <gamakichi> I would like suggestions from the pros (you guys)
#1522 [18:34] <Kealper> huddler: if you've set the graphics to lowest and it still runs bad, then there is probably not much left you can do :/
#1523 [18:34] <Kealper> gamakichi: are you in the USA?
#1524 [18:34] <Kealper> (or Canada)
#1525 [18:34] <gamakichi> Yes
#1526 [18:34] <gamakichi> USA
#1527 [18:35] <huddler> do u have any tips or something?
#1528 [18:35] <Kealper> gamakichi: and you want a desktop or a laptop computer?
#1529 [18:35] <huddler> besides getting a new computer
#1530 [18:35] <gamakichi> Desktop would be good.
#1531 [18:35] <Kealper> huddler: you might have some luck looking on the minecraft forums for mods that try to enhance performance
#1532 [18:35] <huddler> k thanks!
#1533 [18:35] <Scott> I want an iMac.
#1534 [18:36] <gamakichi> Site for purchase
#1535 [18:36] <Kealper> Scott: for under $600? is a PowerPC one good? XD
#1536 [18:36] <Scott> haha.
#1537 [18:36] <Kealper> gamakichi: i'm looking at newegg.com right now
#1538 [18:36] <Scott> I want one with an i7-2600k
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#1540 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Right now, there's tons of deals every day on dell's site
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#1542 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Here's the latest listing from tom's hardware. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/deals-sale-laptop-coupons-freebies,13964.html
#1543 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Could easily get a computer for a little under 500, upgrade it with a dedicated video card for under 600
#1544 [18:38] <sluggo> When i start minecraft it loads then the screen goes white then it says minecraft has crashed wat do i do?
#1545 [18:38] <Kealper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883108578 this has a Radeon HD 3000 onboard
#1546 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> sluggo - Do you get an error report? Paste it on http://www.pastebin.com and give us the address to it
#1547 [18:38] <gamakichi> And now a challenge a good computer for all around everything especially gaming under $400
#1548 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Not going to happen
#1549 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Not if your definition of gaming extends beyond flash games and minesweeper
#1550 [18:39] <zkxs> minesweeper is hardcore
#1551 [18:40] <Kealper> gamakichi: the one i linked from newegg is one that is probably about as close to "gaming" as you are going to get without also throwing money down for a dedicated graphics card
#1552 [18:40] * mib_ggcw5w [mib_ggcw5w@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1553 [18:40] <mib_ggcw5w> hello
#1554 [18:40] <zkxs> greetings
#1555 [18:40] <mib_ggcw5w> can some1 help me with my freezing problem in my game
#1556 [18:41] <mib_ggcw5w> -_-
#1557 [18:41] <sluggo> no sorry i was wrong no error message comes up it just stops loading after it says done loading and my computer doesnt freeze it just sits
#1558 [18:41] <zkxs> just ask and someone will help
#1559 [18:41] <mib_ggcw5w> ummm
#1560 [18:41] <mib_ggcw5w> greyvulpine can u help me
#1561 [18:42] <mib_ggcw5w> nope
#1562 [18:42] <Kealper> gamakichi: or if you can settle with a dual core CPU intead of a quad core CPU.... there is this for the same price, which has better graphics hardware http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227368
#1563 [18:42] <zkxs> ah, it is a mr_evil
#1564 [18:42] <mib_ggcw5w> kealper how do i stop my game from freezing
#1565 [18:42] <Kealper> that question is akin to asking a mechanic "how do i stop my car from making a clunking sound"
#1566 [18:43] <mib_ggcw5w> o
#1567 [18:43] <mib_ggcw5w> k
#1568 [18:43] <Kealper> mib_ggcw5w: when does it freeze? how long does it freeze for? what exactly happens when it "freezes"?
#1569 [18:43] <sluggo> I asume that my computer doesnt have a good enough openGL but i cant find any way to update it any help?
#1570 [18:43] <mib_ggcw5w> well when i walk around it starts to freeze up
#1571 [18:43] <mib_ggcw5w> i have 2 reopen
#1572 [18:44] <mib_ggcw5w> it
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#1574 [18:44] <Kealper> mib_ggcw5w: so it freezes and does not let you move around after it starts doing it?
#1575 [18:44] <mib_ggcw5w> everytime
#1576 [18:44] <mib_ggcw5w> ya
#1577 [18:44] <gamakichi> Thanks you guys!
#1578 [18:45] <mib_ggcw5w> so what do i do about it
#1579 [18:45] <sluggo> Does anyone know what type of open GL i would need to get minecraft to run and what i have to do to download?
#1580 [18:45] <Kealper> gamakichi: and now that i look at the second link i gave you, that one seems to be the better bang-for-the-buck, as that would probably do pretty good with most modern games
#1581 [18:45] <TheNytangel> Kealper, how the hell am I supposed to figure out how to put a computer together if I can't even figure out how to put in the stupid CD drive?
#1582 [18:45] <zkxs> lol
#1583 [18:45] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1583 [18:45] <Kealper> TheNytangel: google
#1584 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> How hard.. is it to put in a cd drive?
#1585 [18:46] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#1586 [18:46] <TheNytangel> VERY HARD
#1587 [18:46] <TheNytangel> Ok?
#1588 [18:46] <mib_ggcw5w> -_-
#1589 [18:46] <Kealper> ??> mib_ggcw5w win/dxdiag
#1590 [18:46] <VoxelHead> mib_ggcw5w: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1591 [18:46] <VoxelHead> mib_ggcw5w: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1592 [18:46] <Kealper> mib_ggcw5w: follow what VoxelHead just told you right above this
#1593 [18:46] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine... will you help me? :)
#1594 [18:46] <mib_ggcw5w> k
#1595 [18:46] <GreyVulpine> Sure, pay for my airline ticket, I'll build it for you
#1596 [18:46] <zkxs> the cases that try to make it simple with an 'easy to use slide in system' tend to make drive installation more confusing
#1597 [18:46] <sluggo> Does anyone know what type of open GL i would need to get minecraft to run and what i have to do to download?
#1598 [18:47] <zkxs> screws just make sense
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#1600 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, either way, it's just, pop out the case's metal bay cover, slide in the drive from the front. lock it in with screws
#1601 [18:47] <TheNytangel`> GreyVulpine, am I supposed to take out the spot for it in the front? >.>
#1602 [18:48] * GreyVulpine prefers those slide in bays over just plain screws
#1602 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
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#1604 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> There should be breakaway tabs for each bay slot
#1605 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> What case did you get by the way?
#1606 [18:48] <mib_ggcw5w> VoxelHead: here http://pastebin.com/BVVnBxC3
#1607 [18:48] <TheNytangel`> That antec one
#1608 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
#1609 [18:49] <TheNytangel`> Hold on
#1610 [18:50] <mib_ggcw5w> kealper im done now what
#1611 [18:50] <Kealper> hmm...
#1612 [18:50] <mib_ggcw5w> i pasted it
#1613 [18:50] <TheNytangel`> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
#1614 [18:50] <Kealper> mib_ggcw5w: do you have any mods or texture packs installed?
#1615 [18:50] <Kealper> mib_ggcw5w: have you tried setting your graphics settings in-game down lower?
#1616 [18:50] <mib_ggcw5w> what?
#1617 [18:50] <mib_ggcw5w> ohh
#1618 [18:50] <mib_ggcw5w> no
#1619 [18:50] <mib_ggcw5w> i will try
#1620 [18:51] <Kealper> mib_ggcw5w: try that, as your computer should not have too much issues playing Minecraft
#1621 [18:51] <mib_ggcw5w> so i go 2 option then video setting
#1622 [18:51] <mib_ggcw5w> rright kealper
#1623 [18:52] <mib_ggcw5w> kealper u there
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#1625 [18:52] <Kealper> mib_ggcw5w: yes
#1626 [18:52] <mib_ggcw5w> im i right
#1627 [18:53] <Kealper> mib_ggcw5w: i meant yes, in the video settings lol
#1628 [18:53] <mib_ggcw5w> o -_-
#1629 [18:53] <TheNytangel`> GreyVulpine, you got that, right?
#1630 [18:54] <mib_ggcw5w> there are lots of setting witch 1 do i change
#1631 [18:54] <Kealper> mib_ggcw5w: disable Smooth Lighting, set the distance to Short, and set graphics from Fancy to Fast
#1632 [18:55] <mib_ggcw5w> k done
#1633 [18:55] <mib_ggcw5w> is that it
#1634 [18:55] <Kealper> yes, try playing it now
#1635 [18:55] <mib_ggcw5w> k
#1636 [18:56] <Kealper> if it still does it, then i'm not sure what it could be :/
#1637 [18:56] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine?
#1638 [18:57] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Yeah, moment
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#1640 [18:59] <zkxs> computers are being built both here and in #minecraft
#1641 [18:59] * TheNytangel is having fun opening up all of the pretty computer parts :D
#1641 [18:59] <TheNytangel> Motherboard = very shiny and colorful
#1642 [18:59] <zkxs> don't static it
#1643 [19:00] <GreyVulpine> Ah, this case. Not hard at all. the front mesh should be popped out from behind
#1644 [19:01] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, the second one down?
#1645 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> 2nd one down?
#1646 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> Do you want to put the cd drive at the top, middle or bottom?
#1647 [19:02] <TheNytangel> Top?
#1648 [19:02] <TheNytangel> :P
#1649 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Then yeah, lemme dig up a video for you
#1650 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX_nXwX_EzU
#1651 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Around 2:20
#1652 [19:04] <TheNytangel> Now, this case came with a billion screws
#1653 [19:04] <TheNytangel> Which ones do I put in for the CD drive?
#1654 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> Course it does.
#1655 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0218378
#1656 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> These
#1657 [19:05] <zkxs> the little ones, usually
#1658 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> or these will work as well.
#1659 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0218401
#1660 [19:06] <zkxs> the bigger type screws tend to be for the mobo/power supply
#1661 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Usually the first one's for the outside, the second one's for the internal components
#1662 [19:08] <TheNytangel> I'm using the first ones
#1663 [19:09] <TheNytangel> I think...
#1664 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> The screws that can have a hexagonal outside, you usually use on the outside
#1665 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> the screws that have an integrated round washer like thing, are used for mounting components to the inside of the case.
#1666 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> You'll also see brass standoffs, those you attach to the side of the case, to mount the mobo on.
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#1668 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> The 300, looks to have a bunch of thumb screws as well, up to you if where you want to use those, just, not on the mobo
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#1672 [19:16] <TheNytangel> Ok
#1673 [19:16] <TheNytangel> CD drive successfully installed
#1674 [19:17] <TheNytangel> Except I don't know what wires go to it
#1675 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Sata and power
#1676 [19:17] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#1677 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Look at your mobo, should have flat, thin red sata data cables.
#1678 [19:18] <TheNytangel> I don't know what a mobo is -_-
#1679 [19:18] * zkxs motherboard
#1679 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> http://gallery.techarena.in/data/513/sata-ide_lg.jpg
#1680 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> Bottom image is the sata connectors. left is Power, right is data
#1681 [19:19] <TheNytangel> I haven't gotten the motherboard put in yet...
#1682 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Then don't worry about it
#1683 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> You don't do wiring until you have all the physical components in
#1684 [19:19] <TheNytangel> Ok
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#1686 [19:19] <TheNytangel> What do you want put in next, power supply?
#1687 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, I usually start by attaching the CPU onto the motherboard, putting the heatsink on top, outside of the case
#1688 [19:20] <GreyVulpine> Then laying the mobo with attached CPU/cooler into the case, since it is the biggest component of a computer, and I like to have as much room as possible
#1689 [19:20] <TheNytangel> CPU onto motherboard
#1690 [19:20] <TheNytangel> Start with that
#1691 [19:21] <GreyVulpine> Once the motherboard is inside the case, and screwed down, and placed the IO connecter panel on the back and everything, only then will I think about the PSU/CD/video card/etc
#1692 [19:22] <TheNytangel> Note to self: don't touch the grey stuff on the CPU
#1693 [19:22] * GreyVulpine usually wipes all that off with rubbing alcohol, placing arctic silver myself
#1693 [19:22] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#1694 [19:22] <TheNytangel> Anyways
#1695 [19:22] <TheNytangel> Where does the CPU go on the motherboard?
#1696 [19:22] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1696 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Go.. read your motherboard manual, it has pictures!
#1697 [19:23] <zkxs> the ostentatious square spot that is in the middle of everything
#1698 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Well, top middle.
#1699 [19:23] <TheNytangel> Bleh
#1700 [19:23] <TheNytangel> Black and white pictures
#1701 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Dude, have you never looked inside a computer before?
#1702 [19:24] <TheNytangel> Yeah
#1703 [19:24] <TheNytangel> But I didn't look at everything :P
#1704 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> If you don't know what you're doing, you're really really want to have somebody knowledgable looking over your shoulder
#1705 [19:24] <clarjon1> Look for the square thing with a lot of tiny holes
#1706 [19:24] <GreyVulpine> motherboards these days have covers on the socket
#1707 [19:25] <clarjon1> Pro-Tip: If at first you don't succeed, force it with a rubber hammer.
#1708 [19:25] <BOFH> :D
#1709 [19:25] * GreyVulpine kicks BoFH
#1709 [19:25] <BOFH> ah ah
#1710 [19:25] <BOFH> it's BOFH
#1711 [19:25] <BOFH> the O is for Operator, not of
#1712 [19:25] * GreyVulpine eyerolls
#1712 [19:25] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, skype video chat? :P
#1713 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> Good.. god, really?
#1714 [19:26] * BOFH gives GreyVulpine the rubber hammer
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#1715 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> I don't think I've updated skype in years..
#1716 [19:27] <BOFH> In all seriousness
#1717 [19:27] <BOFH> TheNytangel: What's the model of your board.
#1718 [19:27] <BOFH> And what CPU did you purchase
#1719 [19:28] <TheNytangel> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103962
#1720 [19:28] <TheNytangel> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128508
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#1723 [19:29] <TheNytangel> Ohhhh
#1724 [19:29] <zkxs> speaking of BOPH, has anyone here ever telnetted to towel.blinkenlights.nl:666 ?
#1725 [19:29] <TheNytangel> I think I just figured something out
#1726 [19:29] <BOFH> TheNytangel: on the mobo product page
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#1728 [19:29] <BOFH> TheNytangel: Click the third minature thumbnail, then click the image to enlarge
#1729 [19:29] <BOFH> you'll get a diagram of your mobo
#1730 [19:30] <BOFH> that is labeled, showing you where things go.
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#1732 [19:30] <BOFH> TheNytangel: Here's what i'm seeing: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/11/11/plasma-desktopKx3345.jpg
#1733 [19:30] <Jan> I am trying to install and I keep receiving Bad Video Card Drivers. Suggestions??
#1734 [19:30] <GreyVulpine> Jan - Update video drivers?
#1735 [19:30] <BOFH> Jan: Your video card drivers are bad.
#1736 [19:31] <TheNytangel> BOFH, now which way does this thingy go?
#1737 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> Look for a notch along one corner
#1738 [19:31] <TheNytangel> AM3 thing
#1739 [19:31] <zkxs> what cpu did you get?
#1740 [19:31] <GreyVulpine> All CPU sockets are keyed, there'll be a notch, or a little tab, or something indicating direction
#1741 [19:31] <TheNytangel> Yeah
#1742 [19:31] <TheNytangel> A little gold arrow thingy
#1743 [19:32] <zkxs> is it a phenom ii?
#1744 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Match that up with the socket, it'll be configured the same way
#1745 [19:32] <BOFH> TheNytangel: http://pc-level.com/2011/04/how-to-install-socket-am3-cpu-and-heatsink/
#1746 [19:32] <TheNytangel> It fits
#1747 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> There's only one way to put in the cpu
#1748 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> You can't go wrong
#1749 [19:32] <TheNytangel> It fits -_-
#1750 [19:32] <zkxs> unless you force it...
#1751 [19:32] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1751 [19:32] * BOFH looks around for that durned rubber hammer.
#1751 [19:32] <TheNytangel> Now how does this fan thingy go in?
#1752 [19:33] <BOFH> Check the link i gave ya
#1753 [19:33] * GreyVulpine whimpers.
#1753 [19:33] <BOFH> shows you how to install the heatsink as well
#1754 [19:33] <BOFH> TheNytangel: http://pc-level.com/2011/04/how-to-install-socket-am3-cpu-and-heatsink/
#1755 [19:33] <TheNytangel> I was supposed to lift that bar thing?
#1756 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1757 [19:34] <BOFH> o.o
#1758 [19:34] <BOFH> yes...
#1759 [19:34] <TheNytangel> Aha :D
#1760 [19:34] <PhotonRaine> Can anyone provide help to me?
#1761 [19:34] * zkxs cringes
#1761 [19:34] <TheNytangel> Then do I put it back down?
#1762 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Once you install the CPU, yes.
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#1764 [19:34] <TheNytangel> Ok
#1765 [19:34] <BOFH> You're supposed to lift it before installing the CPU
#1766 [19:35] <TheNytangel> Too late for that
#1767 [19:35] <BOFH> O.o
#1768 [19:35] * GreyVulpine blinks
#1768 [19:35] <BOFH> carefully lift the cpu, then lift the bar
#1769 [19:35] <PhotonRaine> Or are you busy helping other people?
#1770 [19:35] <BOFH> otherwise you could end up damaging your cpu
#1771 [19:36] <TheNytangel> Ok it's in
#1772 [19:36] <TheNytangel> Now the fan thing?
#1773 [19:37] <BOFH> See the guide i gave you
#1774 [19:37] <BOFH> TheNytangel: http://pc-level.com/2011/04/how-to-install-socket-am3-cpu-and-heatsink/
#1775 [19:37] <BOFH> full instructions
#1776 [19:37] <BOFH> including pictures
#1777 [19:37] <BOFH> high quality pictures...
#1778 [19:37] <TheNytangel> Does it matter which way?
#1779 [19:38] <BOFH> mhm
#1780 [19:38] <BOFH> it needs to be lined up with the clips
#1781 [19:38] <BOFH> as per the pictures xD
#1782 [19:42] <TheNytangel> Done
#1783 [19:42] <TheNytangel> Fan connected and everything
#1784 [19:42] <TheNytangel> Aren't you proud Grey? :P
#1785 [19:42] * GreyVulpine whimpers
#1785 [19:43] <TheNytangel> Hold on, this is hurting my legs, let me move everything to the kitchen table
#1786 [19:44] * lemon-rev next thing we all know TheNytangel has scratched the table and starts going nutz :P
#1786 [19:45] <TheNytangel> Much better
#1787 [19:45] <TheNytangel> What next?
#1788 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Are you absolutely sure you have the fan on well and good?
#1789 [19:46] <TheNytangel> Yep
#1790 [19:46] <TheNytangel> Secured it with the knobby thingy
#1791 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> 3-pin fan power connected to the mobo?
#1792 [19:46] <TheNytangel> Yep
#1793 [19:46] <TheNytangel> I told you I did that ;)
#1794 [19:46] <GreyVulpine> Just making sure
#1795 [19:47] <TheNytangel> So many stickers I get to put on
#1796 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> Next, begins the arduous task of hoisting the mobo up, and into the case, you're not actually placing it right now, only to see what screws on the mobo line up with what holes on the case
#1797 [19:48] <GreyVulpine> With that information, you'll want to put those yellow brass standoffs onto the case's side, lining up with the mobo's screw holes
#1798 [19:48] <lemon-rev> GreyVulpine i hope you have a web cam watching this and not just going from memory :P
#1799 [19:49] <TheNytangel> Screw holes.. yeah..
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#1801 [19:49] <TheNytangel> *locates screw holes*
#1802 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> I don't have a web cam
#1803 [19:49] <GreyVulpine> I'm scrambling to install skype
#1804 [19:49] <TheNytangel> Lol
#1805 [19:50] <lemon-rev> no i was talking about viewing though say TheNytangel computer and viewing all she is doing
#1806 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> This is entirely from memory, I've done this for myself, as well as friends and family for well over 10-15 years
#1807 [19:50] <TheNytangel> lemon-rev, he
#1808 [19:51] <lemon-rev> sorry
#1809 [19:51] <TheNytangel> :P
#1810 [19:52] <lemon-rev> :)
#1811 [19:52] <TheNytangel> I still have no idea where these screw holes are
#1812 [19:52] <TheNytangel> Are they the things with a semi-circle of silver metal stuff around them?
#1813 [19:52] <lemon-rev> on the yea that look like holes on the motherboard yyup
#1814 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> One moment
#1815 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0218442
#1816 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Brass standoff screws
#1817 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> They may be longer or shorter, depending.
#1818 [19:53] <TheNytangel> Yeah I have those
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#1820 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> You place them on the case's motherboard tray. That's what your motherboard's going to be sitting on.
#1821 [19:54] <TheNytangel> Motherboard tray...
#1822 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> The inside of the case, where you put the motherboard
#1823 [19:54] <TheNytangel> *cough*
#1824 [19:54] <lemon-rev> inside the case you have flat back plate
#1825 [19:54] <TheNytangel> Yeah...
#1826 [19:55] <keret> how do i run minecraft game when i already bought it
#1827 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> !client
#1828 [19:55] <TheNytangel> lemon-rev, the one with wires taped to it?
#1829 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Get the client for your operating system, login with your info
#1830 [19:55] <keret> ?
#1831 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Yes, you can remove that tape, draw back the wires
#1832 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> keret - Read what AuBot said
#1833 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Move the wires away from that place, so you can place the motherboard theer
#1834 [19:56] <keret> but im 12 and im just tryin to play the minecraft game
#1835 [19:56] <lemon-rev> keret have you the laucnher on your pc ?
#1836 [19:56] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, what if there are already 4 bronze screws there?
#1837 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Do they match up with the holes on the motherboard?
#1838 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> If not, remove them
#1839 [19:57] <TheNytangel> Don't know
#1840 [19:57] <keret> ? i dont know where is it
#1841 [19:57] <TheNytangel> Which way does the otherboard goJ?
#1842 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> keret - Go to http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1843 [19:57] <TheNytangel> go*
#1844 [19:57] <lemon-rev> TheNytangel align the motherboard with the backing plate of the case to see :P
#1845 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Do you see a bunch of IO connectors along one edge of the mobo?
#1846 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> Those point towards the back
#1847 [19:57] <TheNytangel> Ah
#1848 [19:57] * TheNytangel was putting it in sideways
#1848 [19:57] <keret> ok i did now wat
#1849 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> keret - Run it
#1850 [19:58] <keret> ok
#1851 [19:58] <|Kiikun|> . . .
#1852 [19:58] <TheNytangel> Hmm
#1853 [19:58] <TheNytangel> A reset button
#1854 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Did you pop out the existing I/O back plate?
#1855 [19:58] <|Kiikun|> putting a mobo.. in... sideways...
#1856 [19:58] <TheNytangel> I was about to do that
#1857 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> You'll want to put in the I/O panel from the motherboard
#1858 [19:58] <|Kiikun|> TheNytangel: do that before putting the board in :/
#1859 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: ProTip:
#1860 [19:58] <keret> what do i run
#1861 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> keret - The minecraft launcher you downloaded from minecraft.net/download
#1862 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Be certain when placing the motherboard _not_ to let the tongue from the I/O shield find its way into the Ethernet or USB ports
#1863 [19:59] <lemon-rev> keret did you get the launcher from minecraft.net ? if so you sould be able to double click it and run it
#1864 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Ah, that's why skype wasn't connecting, I'm a few versions behind
#1865 [19:59] <keret> where is it?
#1866 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> that _always_ happens if you're not watching for it and it's a pain in the a[bleeep]s if you fail to notice.
#1867 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> keret - Where did you download it?
#1868 [19:59] <keret> at minecraft.net
#1869 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: The next patch will rebrand it to MS Kype.
#1870 [20:00] <TheNytangel> Ok
#1871 [20:00] <TheNytangel> I put the I/O thing in now :P
#1872 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> I hardly ever use skype
#1873 [20:00] <keret> helo?
#1874 [20:00] <lemon-rev> keret did you see what i wrote to you
#1875 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> ??> keret win/client
#1876 [20:01] <VoxelHead> keret: (win/client) http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.exe
#1877 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Skype - "GreyVulpine"
#1878 [20:01] <Scott> I don't use skype much either
#1879 [20:01] <lemon-rev> keret download that to your desktop and double click it
#1880 [20:01] <Scott> If it worked with Adium, I would but it doesn't so.
#1881 [20:01] <Scott> For some odd reason, Skype makes my GPU turn on too.
#1882 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: don't let this happen to you: http://www.pcguide.com/byop/diagrams/figure68.jpg
#1883 [20:02] <keret> ohhhhhhh thanks il stay online with u gys
#1884 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: or if it does, notice _before_ you install all the other parts.
#1885 [20:02] <TheNytangel> Lol
#1886 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Oh dear
#1887 [20:02] <Scott> VGA D:
#1888 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> TheNytangel: if you look at that pic, not highlighted is the same thing happening with the Ethernet port.
#1889 [20:02] <TheNytangel> No, don't call me :(
#1890 [20:02] <TheNytangel> Hold on :P
#1891 [20:02] <Scott> Why do we still use VGA? :(
#1892 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> Scott: We.. don't?
#1893 [20:03] <Scott> We do. :(
#1894 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> Scott: Or did you mean D-Sub connectors?
#1895 [20:03] <Scott> ye
#1896 [20:03] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, video call? :P
#1897 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> (HDMI and DVI use the _exact_ same signalling as D-Sub connectors for video signal)
#1898 [20:03] <GreyVulpine> I don't have a webcam, can't initiate
#1899 [20:03] * BOFH watches GreyVulpine twitch
#1899 [20:03] <Scott> There is HDMI and Mini DisplayPort now.
#1900 [20:03] <Scott> Much smaller and prettier.
#1901 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> The signal is still the same
#1902 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> (and you forget Thunderbolt (: )
#1903 [20:04] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, you just want me to... talk to you
#1904 [20:04] <DopeGhoti> MiniDisplayPort is so 2009
#1905 [20:04] <Scott> Mini DisplayPort and Thunderbolt use the same thing
#1906 [20:04] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, let me go get my microphone then
#1907 [20:04] <Scott> the same connector, I mean.
#1908 [20:05] <Scott> I want a thunderbolt display :(
#1909 [20:05] <Scott> Maybe I can get one if I get this job
#1910 [20:06] * Scott will be moonlighting.
#1910 [20:07] <Thrae> DopeGhoti: When you mean "same signaling" you mean they both deal with RGB, right?
#1911 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Moment, gotta figure out how to enable my mic
#1912 [20:07] <GreyVulpine> I have it attached...
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#1915 [20:07] <DopeGhoti> Thrae: More so than that-- they send the RBG info in exactly the same manner.
#1916 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> s/RBG/RGB/
#1917 [20:08] <zippity> hey can somone help me
#1918 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> zippity: not if you rely upon our telepathy.
#1919 [20:08] <lemon-rev> GreyVulpine get your sound speeker near the time clock and double click it and goto advanced settings and go from there
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#1921 [20:08] <reedlepee> why won't my minecraft start screen load?
#1922 [20:08] <zippity> ok so i have this problem my minecraft froze i download from site minecraft.com and i was updating and it froze
#1923 [20:09] <lemon-rev> reedlepee windows / mac ?
#1924 [20:09] <zippity> and i do have windows
#1925 [20:09] <reedlepee> windows7
#1926 [20:09] <zippity> im not sure
#1927 [20:09] <Thrae> DopeGhoti: How can they? It's as digital signal. According to Wikipedia, it's "TMDS". Double-checking with Google, that's a different protocol than what VGA uses.
#1928 [20:09] <lemon-rev> reedlepee / zippity goto java.com and update see if it allows you both
#1929 [20:09] <reedlepee> k
#1930 [20:09] <zippity> i updated it but i dont know how to use it
#1931 [20:10] <Thrae> DopeGhoti: DVI has ports to carry an analog VGA signal, though.
#1932 [20:10] <lemon-rev> zippity what version have you got atm ?
#1933 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> Thrae: you're conflating the interface with the signal
#1934 [20:10] <zippity> i have 1.8.1
#1935 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> CRT and VGS displays are analog, but we've not been using VGA since the days of Windows 3.1
#1936 [20:10] <lemon-rev> zippity how do you know you have that version if its not working ?
#1937 [20:11] <zippity> it was working i played it for a while than i put mods and the bam it froze
#1938 [20:11] <zkxs> ?? win/reinst
#1939 [20:11] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1940 [20:11] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1941 [20:11] <lemon-rev> zippity follow vox
#1942 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> The video signalling between D-Sub (15-pin) "VGA" connectors for modern displays is identical to the signalling over DVI, and DVI's signalling is identical to HDMI once you discount the DRM bullsh[bleep]t.
#1943 [20:12] <lemon-rev> hdmi has drm ??? wtf lol
#1944 [20:12] <Thrae> lemon-rev: Yeah, support for HDCP
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#1946 [20:13] <lemon-rev> hm, dont know hdcp but np
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#1948 [20:13] <DopeGhoti> HDMI has support for it built-in, yes.
#1949 [20:13] <MK> [Message to all channels] Incase anyone didn't hear, Steam had a security breach, I advise changing your passwords. http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/11/valve-confirms-steam-hack-credit-cards-personal-info-may-be-stolen.ars
#1950 [20:14] <Thrae> DopeGhoti: So you mean JUST the data signal, not the protocol, not the video signal
#1951 [20:17] <Thrae> I haven't heard of anything differing from RGB when it comes to computer monitors. That's a very effective color space overall.
#1952 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> Well, there's PbPyK, but it's essentially the same.
#1953 [20:20] <Thrae> Yeah, it's like going up to 120Hz -- our eyes can only process everything in RGB @ 60Hz, as far as we've found.
#1954 [20:21] <DopeGhoti> In fact, even 30Hz is likely overkill for most folks
#1955 [20:21] <keret> how do i kill a zombie
#1956 [20:21] <keret> in minecraft
#1957 [20:21] <lemon-rev> keret with fist lol, or sword lol
#1958 [20:22] <keret> how do i get that
#1959 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> or TNT
#1960 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> or arrows
#1961 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> or with pistons
#1962 [20:22] <DopeGhoti> the options are myriad
#1963 [20:22] <lemon-rev> keret got minecraft.net and follow the tutorial on there
#1964 [20:22] <lemon-rev> hahahah yea shit load of options
#1965 [20:22] <keret> ok
#1966 [20:23] <zkxs> keret, also look at http://minecraftwiki.net for very detailed information.
#1967 [20:23] <keret> where is that
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#1969 [20:24] <charmander> somone help my launcher wont update it failed to launch
#1970 [20:24] <zkxs> charmander, have you been messing with mods?
#1971 [20:25] <charmander> yah
#1972 [20:25] <zkxs> ??> charmander win/reinst
#1973 [20:25] <VoxelHead> charmander: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1974 [20:25] <VoxelHead> charmander: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1975 [20:25] <charmander> what is that
#1976 [20:25] <charmander> win/reinst
#1977 [20:25] <lemon-rev> keret http://www.minecraft.net/game/howtoplay
#1978 [20:25] <charmander> thx
#1979 [20:25] <zkxs> it is a command to tell VoxelHead to give you some instructions
#1980 [20:26] <zkxs> -.-
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#1982 [20:26] <charmander> sorry lost connection
#1983 [20:26] <zkxs> bad wifi?
#1984 [20:26] <charmander> wat was the site
#1985 [20:26] <lemon-rev> keret http://www.minecraft.net/game/howtoplay
#1986 [20:26] <charmander> ok im there
#1987 [20:26] <charmander> then wat
#1988 [20:26] <zkxs> charmander, that link isn't for you
#1989 [20:26] <lemon-rev> lol
#1990 [20:27] <charmander> oh
#1991 [20:27] <zkxs> ?? only/you
#1992 [20:27] <VoxelHead> only/you: You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#1993 [20:27] <VoxelHead> only/you: If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#1994 [20:27] <zkxs> brb
#1995 [20:27] <charmander> yikes
#1996 [20:27] <charmander> ok so wat do i do
#1997 [20:27] <charmander> i delete everything like meta inf
#1998 [20:27] <charmander> and it still wont work
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#2000 [20:28] <charmander> so wat should i do
#2001 [20:28] <panitaliemom> i paid for my account but i cannot log in
#2002 [20:28] <zkxs> ??> charmander win/reinst
#2003 [20:28] <VoxelHead> charmander: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2004 [20:28] <VoxelHead> charmander: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2005 [20:28] <charmander> i cant get my launcher to work
#2006 [20:29] <zkxs> do what voxel instructs
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#2008 [20:30] <jackd> i think my account has been stolen
#2009 [20:31] <jackd> can't login anymore, when I go to reset password it says "email sent", but I never receive an email
#2010 [20:31] <zkxs> i don't think the email address can't be changed
#2011 [20:31] <jackd> when I go to confirm e-mail, it says that my e-mail is no longer in the database
#2012 [20:31] <zkxs> *can be
#2013 [20:32] <jackd> hmmmmm
#2014 [20:33] <jackd> oh man i figured it out
#2015 [20:33] <jackd> shit i'm dumb
#2016 [20:33] <jackd> in other news MINECRAFT TIME
#2017 [20:33] <zkxs> what was it? i'm curious
#2018 [20:33] <jackd> thanks dyde
#2019 [20:33] <jackd> i used an ancient e-mail
#2020 [20:33] <jackd> i used to have it forwarded to my main e-mail
#2021 [20:34] <zkxs> ah
#2022 [20:34] <jackd> but it isnt forwarding anymore and i forgot it existed
#2023 [20:34] <jackd> <----- dumb
#2024 [20:34] <jackd> sigh
#2025 [20:34] <zkxs> well, glad you figured it out
#2026 [20:34] <jackd> oh well least i got it
#2027 [20:34] <jackd> me too
#2028 [20:34] <jackd> off to waste the evening, peace folks!
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#2031 [20:40] <keret> sup
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#2033 [20:41] <charmander> hi
#2034 [20:41] <charmander> i still cant get my launcher to work
#2035 [20:41] <keret> hey how do u make an axe
#2036 [20:41] <charmander> i dunno
#2037 [20:41] <charmander> off the top of my head
#2038 [20:41] <keret> ok
#2039 [20:42] <|Kiikun|> keret: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/axe
#2040 [20:42] <charmander> my launcher keeps failing but i wont MODS
#2041 [20:42] <zkxs> charmander, have you deleted .minecraft yet?
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#2043 [20:42] <charmander> no
#2044 [20:42] <charmander> should i
#2045 [20:42] <zkxs> ...
#2046 [20:42] <charmander> but what about mods
#2047 [20:42] <zkxs> ?? mods
#2048 [20:42] <charmander> i want them
#2049 [20:42] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2050 [20:42] <meeeee> hay wug im back.
#2051 [20:42] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2052 [20:42] * |Kiikun| likes his /wiki command :P
#2052 [20:43] <charmander> any mod i need help
#2053 [20:43] <zkxs> I will help you uninstall mods
#2054 [20:43] <charmander> no i need mods so wat do i do
#2055 [20:43] <meeeee> wug im back
#2056 [20:43] <zkxs> we don't do mod support here
#2057 [20:43] <charmander> oh man
#2058 [20:43] <|Kiikun|> charmander: i will simplify what vox said. WE NO HELP WITH MODS. RTFM!
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#2060 [20:45] <Riley> Hello. I am crashing every 5 mins. I have the crash reports. Can someone help me?
#2061 [20:45] <meeeee> is there a graphic card for a hp compaq dc7600 (small form factor)
#2062 [20:45] <|Kiikun|> ??> Riley pastebin
#2063 [20:45] <VoxelHead> Riley: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2064 [20:46] <Riley> Ok thanks. Hold on.
#2065 [20:46] <meeeee> is there a graphic card for a hp compaq dc7600 (small form factor)
#2066 [20:47] <Thrae> meeeee: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/sm/WF06b/12132708-12132884-12132884-12132884-12221730-12221860-77923637.html
#2067 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> TheNytangel - Sorry, one sec. You can put it in whenever
#2068 [20:47] <meeeee> thanks thrae
#2069 [20:48] <Thrae> meeeee: It uses PCI-Express, but I bet the case won't take a huge video card, so keep that in mind
#2070 [20:48] <Riley> I just paste the url in the chat?
#2071 [20:49] <Thrae> Riley: Yes
#2072 [20:49] <Riley> http://pastebin.com/qqjJfKF3
#2073 [20:50] <|Kiikun|> Riley: nvidia drivers need updating.
#2074 [20:50] <|Kiikun|> Riley: happen to know what nvidia card you have?
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#2076 [20:52] <Riley> geforce gtx 465
#2077 [20:52] <felinoel> Where can I go for modding help?
#2078 [20:52] <|Kiikun|> ?? gpu/nvidia
#2079 [20:52] <VoxelHead> gpu/nvidia: You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#2080 [20:52] <Riley> yes.
#2081 [20:53] <Thrae> ??> felinoel mods
#2082 [20:53] <VoxelHead> felinoel: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2083 [20:53] <VoxelHead> felinoel: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2084 [20:53] <felinoel> lol thanks Thrae.
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#2086 [20:54] <FeelzGoodz> Hey hey :D
#2087 [20:54] <felinoel> Thrae: Wait... neither of those places are what I am looking for...
#2088 [20:54] <felinoel> Well I guess there was a third but that didn't help either...
#2089 [20:54] <FeelzGoodz> Anyone can tell me how to install a maps like It's better together and play online with my brother ? :S
#2090 [20:55] <zkxs> FeelzGoodz, are you trying to set up a server?
#2091 [20:56] <felinoel> So there isn't any other place for modding help..?
#2092 [20:56] <FeelzGoodz> Yes and no lol I've a server lauching in original mode but I want to play the maps It's Better Together
#2093 [20:56] <zkxs> felinoel, check the instructions that come with your mod
#2094 [20:56] <felinoel> zkxs: There aren't any? I am asking for modding help, not mod help.
#2095 [20:57] <zkxs> felinoel, wait, you want to make a mod?
#2096 [20:57] <FeelzGoodz> What's your problem
#2097 [20:57] <FeelzGoodz> You want to make a mod or Making a mod ?
#2098 [20:57] <felinoel> Kinda... let's say yes.
#2099 [20:57] <FeelzGoodz> put*
#2100 [20:57] <FeelzGoodz> put a mod in a server or making one
#2101 [20:57] <FeelzGoodz> ?
#2102 [20:57] <|Kiikun|> FeelzGoodz: to play a map on a server, just put its stuff in the world folder.
#2103 [20:58] <felinoel> zkxs: Kinda, let's say yes.
#2104 [20:58] <zkxs> let me find the channels
#2105 [20:58] <felinoel> zkxs, thanks.
#2106 [20:59] <zkxs> #risucraft is home to the modloader people. If you want to check out decompiled MC sourcecode, you'll find better luck in #mcp-modding
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#2108 [21:00] <zkxs> felinoel, is that what you are looking for ^ ?
#2109 [21:00] <felinoel> Ummm sure I guess?
#2110 [21:00] <felinoel> Not really sure what I need, thanks though.
#2111 [21:03] <felinoel> Anyways this was what I was looking for help with.
#2112 [21:03] <felinoel> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/779082-help-please/#entry10109942
#2113 [21:04] <keret> hey how doo i make a sword in minecraft
#2114 [21:05] <felinoel> Twoo planks and a stick
#2115 [21:05] <keret> helo
#2116 [21:05] <keret> anione there
#2117 [21:05] <keret> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
#2118 [21:05] <keret> i wana make a sword
#2119 [21:05] <lemon-rev> keret goto minecraft wiki
#2120 [21:05] <lemon-rev> and find out
#2121 [21:06] <keret> ok ????????????????????????????
#2122 [21:07] <keret> helo is zkxs here???
#2123 [21:07] <lemon-rev> keret http://www.minecraft.net/game/howtoplay
#2124 [21:08] <felinoel> Woah, I did not realize that link exists o.o
#2125 [21:08] <zkxs> who is that?
#2126 [21:08] <lemon-rev> yea its just hidden now on that site
#2127 [21:08] <felinoel> zkxs: That is someone asking for how to make a sword.
#2128 [21:08] <zkxs> keret, what is it?
#2129 [21:09] <zkxs> oh gawd
#2130 [21:09] <felinoel> lol
#2131 [21:09] * zkxs hides under his desk
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#2133 [21:11] <FeelzGoodz> hey hey
#2134 [21:11] <felinoel> Did you see that link zkxs, was I asking for the right thing?
#2135 [21:12] <FeelzGoodz> Another question guys
#2136 [21:12] <FeelzGoodz> What's that
#2137 [21:12] <FeelzGoodz> [INFO] darkguys lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#2138 [21:12] <FeelzGoodz> my brother get that after 2mins logging
#2139 [21:12] <FeelzGoodz> Internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException : Read timed out
#2140 [21:12] <zkxs> felinoel, i suppose
#2141 [21:13] <Thrae> ??> FeelzGoodz fubar/nic
#2142 [21:13] <VoxelHead> FeelzGoodz: (fubar/nic) Unfortunately, Minecraft has an incompatibility with certain network interface chipsets that manifests with a "Recv Timed Out" or a "Socket Write" error.
#2143 [21:13] <VoxelHead> FeelzGoodz: (fubar/nic) Your only three solutions at the moment are to buy a new NIC, to switch to Linux or MacOS (which does not have this problem), or to wait for Notch to find and fix the problem.
#2144 [21:13] <zkxs> linux is freest
#2145 [21:13] <zkxs> ...free-est... most free? idk
#2146 [21:14] <felinoel> Well it is most free...
#2147 [21:14] <Thrae> FeelzGoodz: If your friend got that error and Minecraft did not crash, then it's most likely his network chipset
#2148 [21:14] <FeelzGoodz> I think when I use the Minecraft_server.exe it work fine but with the Minecraft_server.jar that's the problem
#2149 [21:14] <felinoel> The only reason why I use Windows is because PhotoShop doesn't have a version for Linux sadly, I was surprised to see Minecraft does o.o
#2150 [21:14] <FeelzGoodz> I've Windows 7
#2151 [21:15] <Thrae> FeelzGoodz: Wait, so your friend only gets that error when you use the JAR directly? Do you use a batch script to startup the JAR?
#2152 [21:15] <zkxs> minecraft works wherever java does
#2153 [21:16] * GreyVulpine twiddles thumbes
#2153 [21:16] <Thrae> FeelzGoodz: Minecraft_Server.EXE is actually Minecraft_Server.JAR + executable code to launch Java with default parameters.
#2154 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> thumbs even
#2155 [21:16] <FeelzGoodz> \Ya but
#2156 [21:16] <FeelzGoodz> When I launch the JAR
#2157 [21:16] <FeelzGoodz> It says NOT ENOUGHT RAM
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#2159 [21:16] <FeelzGoodz> I've 8 gig of ram
#2160 [21:16] <FeelzGoodz> when I launch it with EXE i didn't have this error
#2161 [21:17] <FeelzGoodz> but can't install mod and things :S
#2162 [21:17] <Thrae> FeelzGoodz: Yes, this can happen when you don't tell Java how much Memory you want to allocate to Java Heap. The EXE does this for you.
#2163 [21:18] <Thrae> FeelzGoodz: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Start_the_Minecraft_Server_.28jar_version_on_Windows.29
#2164 [21:18] * GreyVulpine is glad he's mentioned magnetism + hard drive = bad to TheNytangel.
#2164 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Magnetic screwdriver + mounting hard drive = blah
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#2166 [21:19] <cyph> herro
#2167 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#2168 [21:19] <cyph> is PMB.exe a minecraft process?
#2169 [21:19] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: Honestly not that big of a deal with modern HDDs as most magnetic screwdrivers are very, very weak and modern HDDs have far better shielding.
#2170 [21:19] <cyph> im running like 4 instances
#2171 [21:19] <Thrae> cyph: Nope, Minecraft uses Java, so java.exe, javaw.exe
#2172 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> Don't want to run that risk
#2173 [21:20] <cyph> hmm
#2174 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> So TheNytangel is off hunting for a screwdriver that isn't magnetic
#2175 [21:20] <cyph> i wonder if steam is using them
#2176 [21:20] <felinoel> zkxs: Nah they just told me to stay on the forums and bump my thread...
#2177 [21:20] <felinoel> Thanks anyways.
#2178 [21:20] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: I'm saying the risk is infinitesimal, but I agree it's greater than 0 :)
#2179 [21:21] * GreyVulpine nods
#2179 [21:21] <cyph> except its not in taskmanager
#2180 [21:21] <Thrae> cyph: http://www.file.net/process/pmb.exe.html <-- Pando Media Booster (League of Legends, Lord of the Rings Online, etc.)
#2181 [21:21] <cyph> bah
#2182 [21:21] * felinoel flails
#2182 [21:21] <cyph> yea i looked it up
#2183 [21:22] <cyph> i have no idea whats using it though
#2184 [21:22] <Thrae> cyph: Did you ever install League of Legends, Lord of the Rings Online, etc. ?
#2185 [21:22] <cyph> its sending tons of data
#2186 [21:22] <cyph> i have a couple mmos installed but none are open
#2187 [21:23] <Thrae> cyph: It's a Peer-To-Peer distributing network and runs in the background serving the game files to other people (it's not open like BitTorrent, though)
#2188 [21:23] <cyph> teamspeak maybe?
#2189 [21:23] <cyph> hm
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#2191 [21:25] <cyph> crud!
#2192 [21:26] <Thrae> cyph: A lot of free MMOs use Pando Media Booster, it just sits in the background waiting for updates to the games, and sending the game files to other people as a P2P network
#2193 [21:26] <Thrae> And totally not Minecraft related :D
#2194 [21:26] <cyph> i killed some of the threads
#2195 [21:26] <cyph> but theyre not exactly idle
#2196 [21:26] <cyph> and theyre eating bandwidth
#2197 [21:27] <cyph> ahh thats better
#2198 [21:27] <Thrae> cyph: Just block it in Windows Firewall
#2199 [21:27] <FeelzGoodz> didn't catch that
#2200 [21:27] <FeelzGoodz> 4. Rename Minecraft. Type rename minecraft_server minecraft_server.exe then hit enter. This should add the .exe extension to the executable and it should now operate correctly
#2201 [21:27] <cyph> 200k net IO
#2202 [21:27] <cyph> down from 3MB
#2203 [21:28] <cyph> and up to 700k
#2204 [21:28] <cyph> yay, let mc eat it
#2205 [21:28] <cyph> the server is running much smoother
#2206 [21:29] <cyph> thanks :-)
#2207 [21:29] <Thrae> FeelzGoodz: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Start_the_Minecraft_Server_.28jar_version_on_Windows.29
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#2210 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> bah, thumbs*
#2211 [21:36] <kingyou123> hey guys i have a problem
#2212 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> What problem would that be?
#2213 [21:37] <kingyou123> my minecraft wont download
#2214 [21:37] <zkxs> have you by chance been messing around with mods?
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#2216 [21:37] <kingyou123> yes
#2217 [21:37] <zkxs> ??> kingyou123 win/reinst
#2218 [21:37] <VoxelHead> kingyou123: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2219 [21:37] <VoxelHead> kingyou123: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2220 [21:39] <kingyou123> I deleted my .minecraft folder and it didnt help at all
#2221 [21:40] <kingyou123> You see it pauses at minecraft.jar when downloading
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#2223 [21:42] <keret> hOW DO I RUN THE GAME
#2224 [21:42] <kingyou123> what does win/reinst mean
#2225 [21:42] <|Kiikun|> keret: you double click the exe or open the play webpage
#2226 [21:43] <|Kiikun|> kingyou123: it means do what vox says
#2227 [21:43] <kingyou123> ok i tried that it doesnt work
#2228 [21:44] <keret> no i mean how do i play mine crafr
#2229 [21:44] <lemon-rev> keret how the hell can you learn if not by video
#2230 [21:44] <keret> how do i run minecraft the game
#2231 [21:45] <lemon-rev> keret thought you had the game running ?
#2232 [21:46] <lemon-rev> people been giving you links to click on about the minecraft.exe if you cant get that file and run it, then tell us where your going wrong ?
#2233 [21:46] <zkxs> kingyou123, what happens if you run it in windows XP compatibility mode?
#2234 [21:46] <kingyou123> kiikun it now payses on jinput.jar
#2235 [21:46] <|Kiikun|> keret: 'run' implies the game isnt running/executing/open. 'play' is more 'i dont know how to play this game'
#2236 [21:46] <kingyou123> "pauses"
#2237 [21:47] <keret> ok
#2238 [21:47] <kingyou123> any ideas on how to fix it ?
#2239 [21:49] <zkxs> kingyou123, what happens if you run it in windows XP compatibility mode?
#2240 [21:50] <kingyou123> nothing it just runs it windows xp settings
#2241 [21:50] <kingyou123> ooo srry
#2242 [21:51] <lemon-rev> keret youtube find lets play minecraft
#2243 [21:51] <kingyou123> didnt get what you meant by it , and yea it puases agian
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#2245 [21:53] <kingyou123> zkxs, it just pauses agian
#2246 [21:53] <clearieak> Hmm how do I know if my transaction was complete because it said it didn't work but then about 4 seconds later it says it does.
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#2248 [21:55] <zkxs> hmm
#2249 [21:55] <NotWug> anyone alive in here
#2250 [21:55] <NotWug> I wish I magically had chat rollback
#2251 [21:55] <clearieak> xD
#2252 [21:56] <kingyou123> hmm it so werid\
#2253 [21:56] * NotWug dings Kealper for no reason
#2253 [21:56] <zkxs> chat rollback?
#2254 [21:57] <zkxs> like this? http://sbnc.khobbits.co.uk/log/logs/minecrafthelp.htm
#2255 [21:57] <NotWug> basically, the last 50 lines or so of conversation before I joined
#2256 [21:57] <kingyou123> ZKXS, any ideas on how to slove it
#2257 [21:57] <NotWug> so yeah, pretty much exactly that
#2258 [21:58] <zkxs> anyone here know the solution to the issue where MC doesn't download after mods have been used?
#2259 [21:58] <kingyou123> Notwug, my minecraft wont download and i tried everything that i know
#2260 [21:58] <NotWug> force update?
#2261 [21:58] <kingyou123> tried that
#2262 [21:58] <NotWug> did you break the launcher somehow
#2263 [21:59] <kingyou123> i downloaded a new one
#2264 [21:59] <NotWug> :client > kingyou123
#2265 [21:59] <WugBot> kingyou123: (client) You can download the client by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe ) (For Linux: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ) (For OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip )
#2266 [21:59] <NotWug> are you on a mac
#2267 [21:59] * Kealper NotWugs Wug with a WugBot
#2267 [21:59] * NotWug is recursively self'd
#2267 [21:59] <kingyou123> windows 7 64x
#2268 [21:59] <NotWug> how far does it get
#2269 [21:59] <zkxs> every time i have seen this problem it is on windows after mod use
#2270 [22:00] <lemon-rev> zkxs force update your mc,
#2271 [22:00] <NotWug> I only ever see it on macs, and its usually because people mod the launcher instead of minecraft itself, and then mac caches it somehow
#2272 [22:00] <NotWug> lemon-rev: zkxs is a helper, its kingyou123
#2273 [22:00] <zkxs> lemon, it isn't my issue, and he tried that
#2274 [22:00] <lemon-rev> oh
#2275 [22:01] <kingyou123> could Modcraft be the probelm
#2276 [22:01] <NotWug> kingyou123: how far does it get
#2277 [22:01] <zkxs> do you still have a mod installed?
#2278 [22:02] * NotWug waits
#2278 [22:02] <kingyou123> notwug it gets to 1% , zkxs i wipe my mc ,buut modcraft is a program that mods mc
#2279 [22:03] <lemon-rev> whatabout regetting the launcher again then ? and seeing if that helps
#2280 [22:03] <NotWug> he supposedly already tried
#2281 [22:03] <zkxs> try [turning it off / uninstalling / incinerating] modcraft
#2282 [22:03] <kingyou123> k will do
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#2284 [22:06] <kingyou123> O my jonas brothers , it actually works
#2285 [22:06] <NotWug> well, culprit found
#2286 [22:06] <kingyou123> Thank you nutwug, lemon, and zkxs for the help
#2287 [22:06] <NotWug> modcraft probably has to go
#2288 [22:06] <kingyou123> k
#2289 [22:06] <zkxs> aha, i will remember this
#2290 [22:06] <zkxs> you are not the first to have this issue
#2291 [22:07] <BomBShocK59> :( i just bought minecraft and it says the game crashed
#2292 [22:07] <BomBShocK59> :( i just bought minecraft and it says the game crashed
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#2294 [22:08] <BomBShocK59> so can anyone help? or am in the wrong place
#2295 [22:08] <lemon-rev> np
#2296 [22:08] <lemon-rev> BomBShocK59 what is it doing
#2297 [22:08] <Thrae> BomBShocK59: Paste the error report to www.pastebin.com and give us the link.
#2298 [22:09] <BomBShocK59> see thats the thing it wont let me scroll down to see the error report :(
#2299 [22:09] <zkxs> Crtl+A ?
#2300 [22:09] <BomBShocK59> one sec let me try that
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#2302 [22:10] <BomBShocK59> nope dosnt work
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#2304 [22:11] <zkxs> lets see if we can find a log file
#2305 [22:11] <zkxs> BomBShocK59, press Winkey + R
#2306 [22:11] <BomBShocK59> where?
#2307 [22:12] <BomBShocK59> im noob at this
#2308 [22:12] <zkxs> on your keyboard? winkey is between ctrl and alt
#2309 [22:12] <BomBShocK59> ah thanks
#2310 [22:12] <zkxs> in the box that appears, type %appdata%/.minecraft
#2311 [22:12] <zkxs> and press enter
#2312 [22:12] <zkxs> owait, %appdata%\.minecraft
#2313 [22:13] <BomBShocK59> yep now what
#2314 [22:13] <zkxs> did a folder pop up?
#2315 [22:13] <BomBShocK59> yup 7 of them o.0
#2316 [22:13] <zkxs> ...
#2317 [22:13] <BomBShocK59> bin resouces stats last login
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#2319 [22:14] <zkxs> do you see anything that looks like hs_err
#2320 [22:14] <mib_o0mfri> hey guys
#2321 [22:14] <mib_o0mfri> i change my minecraft skin
#2322 [22:14] <mib_o0mfri> but in game, it's the same one as before
#2323 [22:14] <mib_o0mfri> anybody else have this?
#2324 [22:14] <Thrae> zkxs: hs_err_pid files are created wherever you run Minecraft.exe from (or minecraft.jar on Linux)
#2325 [22:14] <BomBShocK59> no but i see saves texture packs and options txt
#2326 [22:14] <zkxs> ah... you use the applet
#2327 [22:15] <zkxs> i see
#2328 [22:15] <zkxs> try the launcher
#2329 [22:15] <BomBShocK59> the minecraft launcher dosnt work it hasnt downloaded to my desktop
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#2331 [22:16] <BomBShocK59> wait found it
#2332 [22:16] <BomBShocK59> so do i log in
#2333 [22:16] <zkxs> ty thrae
#2334 [22:16] <zkxs> BomBShocK59, yes
#2335 [22:16] <BomBShocK59> done now what
#2336 [22:17] <zkxs> does it crash?
#2337 [22:17] <mib_o0mfri> you may have too many processes going on
#2338 [22:17] <mib_o0mfri> delete some
#2339 [22:17] <mib_o0mfri> er, end some processes
#2340 [22:17] <BomBShocK59> not yet if i go to single player and create a world it does
#2341 [22:17] <mib_o0mfri> oh
#2342 [22:17] <zkxs> BomBShocK59, are you a mac?
#2343 [22:18] <BomBShocK59> nope
#2344 [22:18] <mib_o0mfri> i change my skin on the website
#2345 [22:18] <mib_o0mfri> but in-game SMP, it doesn't change
#2346 [22:18] <zkxs> BomBShocK59, did the launcher crash when you open a single player world?
#2347 [22:18] <BomBShocK59> yep
#2348 [22:18] <zkxs> mib_o0mfri, have you closed and reopenend your game since you changed your skin?
#2349 [22:19] <BomBShocK59> ya i did
#2350 [22:19] <zkxs> BomBShocK59, check that directory i had you open again for a file that looks like HS_err_blahblahblah
#2351 [22:19] <BomBShocK59> k one sec
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#2353 [22:21] <mib_o0mfri> no, no i haven't
#2354 [22:21] <mib_o0mfri> i'll do that , thanks
#2355 [22:22] <mib_o0mfri> but i do reconnect
#2356 [22:22] <mib_o0mfri> not close minecraft
#2357 [22:22] <BomBShocK59> nothing
#2358 [22:22] <BomBShocK59> i checked ever linked file
#2359 [22:22] <zkxs> mib_o0mfri, you skin is cached so you need to close and reopen
#2360 [22:23] <zkxs> BomBShocK59, is this a new issue, or has it always happened on your pc?
#2361 [22:23] <BomBShocK59> no its the first time i just bought minecraft so its never happend before
#2362 [22:24] <mib_00087> hey i paid and downloaded mine craft and when i clik on the minecraft icon.. it straight away gets me into the UPDATING MINECRAFT.. underneath it it says done loading and the green loading bar is nearly full but it just frozen
#2363 [22:24] <mib_00087> can someon please help me
#2364 [22:24] <zkxs> BomBShocK59, all right, that is good to know. lets try updating some things. i will have vox give you instructions
#2365 [22:24] <zkxs> ??> BomBShocK59 java/version
#2366 [22:24] <VoxelHead> BomBShocK59: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2367 [22:24] <VoxelHead> BomBShocK59: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2368 [22:25] <zkxs> if it isn't 6.29, you should update
#2369 [22:25] <mib_00087> are you talking to me?
#2370 [22:25] <zkxs> nope
#2371 [22:25] <zkxs> mib_00087, have you used mods before?
#2372 [22:26] <mib_o0mfri> ohhhh
#2373 [22:26] <mib_o0mfri> thank you zkxs
#2374 [22:26] <zkxs> no problem
#2375 [22:26] <mib_o0mfri> cached skin... who knew
#2376 [22:26] <mib_00087> no i have just paid and downloaded minecraft in the last 20 minutes
#2377 [22:26] <zkxs> mib_00087, what kind of firewall do you have?
#2378 [22:26] <mib_00087> i dont know
#2379 [22:27] <zkxs> how about your antivirus, what is that?
#2380 [22:27] <BomBShocK59> it says a newer version of java is available
#2381 [22:27] <zkxs> BomBShocK59, update
#2382 [22:27] <BomBShocK59> you sure
#2383 [22:27] <mib_00087> its norten 360 but its expired now
#2384 [22:28] <zkxs> updating java can't hurt. in fact, the reason sun releases new java updates is mainly security issues.
#2385 [22:28] <zkxs> mib_00087, so it doesn't work?
#2386 [22:28] <BomBShocK59> its installing
#2387 [22:28] <mib_00087> no its off
#2388 [22:28] <zkxs> mib_00087, you can try updating java too
#2389 [22:28] <zkxs> http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2390 [22:28] <mib_00087> i did that
#2391 [22:29] <zkxs> hmm
#2392 [22:29] <mib_00087> it says my java is working and its up to date
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#2394 [22:29] <zkxs> mib_00087, are you using your home internet?
#2395 [22:29] <blm517> can you please help me with mods please
#2396 [22:30] <zkxs> ??> blm517 mods
#2397 [22:30] <VoxelHead> blm517: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2398 [22:30] <VoxelHead> blm517: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#2400 [22:31] <mib_00087> when i click on MINECRAFT. minecraft launcher pops up and i type in my passward? thats whats meant to happen right?
#2401 [22:31] <bombshock> k well it needs me to restart my computer
#2402 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> mib_00087 - Yes
#2403 [22:31] <zkxs> mib_00087, yes
#2404 [22:31] <zkxs> ninja'd
#2405 [22:31] <bombshock> what?
#2406 [22:31] * GreyVulpine ninja-vanishes
#2406 [22:31] <mib_00087> then it goes in and the screen just freezes :/
#2407 [22:31] <zkxs> bombshock, go ahead then
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#2409 [22:32] <zkxs> if it doesn't work you know where to find us
#2410 [22:32] <EvilShreky> real money to earn ppl http://www.anno1777.com/index.php?i=191990
#2411 [22:32] <EvilShreky> real money to earn ppl http://www.anno1777.com/index.php?i=191990
#2412 [22:32] <EvilShreky> v
#2413 [22:32] <EvilShreky> real money to earn ppl http://www.anno1777.com/index.php?i=191990
#2414 [22:32] <EvilShreky> real money to earn ppl http://www.anno1777.com/index.php?i=191990
#2415 [22:32] <EvilShreky> real money to earn ppl http://www.anno1777.com/index.php?i=191990
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#2417 [22:32] <GreyVulpine> !kb EvilShreky
#2418 [22:32] <bombshock> after that i might have to turn it off and ill be on tommorow night
#2419 [22:32] <blm517> do you know where to find easy gold
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#2421 [22:33] <zkxs> blm517, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Gold
#2422 [22:33] <mib_9mo4ln> umm my account wont work it say i dont hav it any more and i put my user name and every thing :(
#2423 [22:33] <mib_00087> okay im in... i just forced an update cliked done then launched minecraft
#2424 [22:34] <mib_00087> also why cant i join multiplayer ?
#2425 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> mib_00087 - You'll need to find a multiplayer IP address before you can join one
#2426 [22:34] <GreyVulpine> Try s.nerd.nu
#2427 [22:35] <mib_00087> yeah i tried it keeps saying connection timed out
#2428 [22:35] <mib_00087> oh it workd thanks grayvulpine :)
#2429 [22:36] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#2432 [22:58] <Isamu00> can someone explain to me why minecraft doesn't work n mac in less confusing terms?
#2433 [22:58] <zkxs> are you on 10.5.8?
#2434 [22:59] <Isamu00> let me check
#2435 [23:01] <Isamu00> 10.6.8
#2436 [23:01] <zkxs> and it doesn't work for you?
#2437 [23:01] * Isamu00 sad that took me so long
#2437 [23:01] <Isamu00> unles sI'm doing something wrong
#2438 [23:01] <Isamu00> chances ar eI am
#2439 [23:02] <zkxs> the issue i have heard about concerns mac os x 10.5.8
#2440 [23:02] <Isamu00> I just downloaded the games from the site and ran it, it closed right down
#2441 [23:03] <zkxs> Isamu00, ah, it closed down instantly?
#2442 [23:04] <Isamu00> yeah
#2443 [23:04] <zkxs> i see, that isn't the 10.5.8 issue then
#2444 [23:04] <Isamu00> I previously herd something was wrong to I removed the original app
#2445 [23:04] <zkxs> what do you mean 'original app'?
#2446 [23:05] <Isamu00> the old one that didn't work
#2447 [23:05] <Isamu00> to get the never version
#2448 [23:05] <zkxs> minecraft updates by itself
#2449 [23:05] <zkxs> are you talking about the old/new launchers?
#2450 [23:06] <Isamu00> it never got a chance to update, it just went black ot closedbefore
#2451 [23:06] <zkxs> is your java up to date?
#2452 [23:06] <Isamu00> doing an update now
#2453 [23:06] <zkxs> good. also, do you know how to run things from a terminal?
#2454 [23:07] <Isamu00> sorta
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#2457 [23:08] <Isamu00> just tryed launching it again, did the run application form internet thing
#2458 [23:08] <Isamu00> then it droped out of my dock and won't open again
#2459 [23:09] <zkxs> I don't use mac, so I can't help you with the dock
#2460 [23:09] <Isamu00> dock is just where progams are while running
#2461 [23:09] <Isamu00> like the bottom abr on PC
#2462 [23:09] <Isamu00> *bar
#2463 [23:09] <zkxs> i understand that, but i don't know how to get something back in the dock.
#2464 [23:10] <zkxs> do you know where the launcher .jar file is located?
#2465 [23:10] <Isamu00> it won't even open and say run appilaction from internet after one use
#2466 [23:10] <Isamu00> no
#2467 [23:10] * Isamu00 not that good with computers
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#2468 [23:11] <SteveTheCat> How do I find wolves?
#2469 [23:11] <SteveTheCat> I've been living in tiaga forest and chopping trees for a while
#2470 [23:11] <Scott> hi Isamu00
#2471 [23:11] <SteveTheCat> and I can't seem to find any wolves!
#2472 [23:11] <zkxs> SteveTheCat, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Wolf
#2473 [23:11] <Isamu00> they like most mobs spawn randomly
#2474 [23:11] <Scott> Can you click the Apple menu > Software Update and install any available updates?
#2475 [23:11] <Isamu00> just did update
#2476 [23:11] <zkxs> thank goodness a mac user is here
#2477 [23:11] <Isamu00> might be bad luck SteveTheCat
#2478 [23:11] <Scott> Ok good.
#2479 [23:11] <Scott> You want to play Minecraft Beta right?
#2480 [23:12] <Scott> The paid version?
#2481 [23:12] <Isamu00> I have one
#2482 [23:12] <Isamu00> used to work, herd it didn''t, wanted to see if it does now
#2483 [23:12] <Scott> Which game are you talking about?
#2484 [23:12] <Isamu00> paid version
#2485 [23:12] <Scott> Ok.
#2486 [23:12] <SteveTheCat> zkxd: I checkd
#2487 [23:12] <Scott> Have you played the game before on your computer?
#2488 [23:13] <Isamu00> I thank my friend for giving me it
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#2490 [23:13] <Isamu00> yeah months ago
#2491 [23:13] <SteveTheCat> will the wolves spawn near my house in the tiaga forest?
#2492 [23:13] <SteveTheCat> or do I have to keep walking?
#2493 [23:13] <Scott> Okay well, you need to open finder
#2494 [23:13] <Isamu00> kk
#2495 [23:13] <Scott> Press command + shift + g
#2496 [23:13] <Scott> and enter this in the pop up: ~/Library/Application Support/
#2497 [23:13] <zkxs> SteveTheCat, mobs won't spawn near you, that way you don't see things pop into existence
#2498 [23:14] <Isamu00> there
#2499 [23:14] <Scott> Do you see a folder called minecraft?
#2500 [23:14] <SteveTheCat> so what should I do?
#2501 [23:14] <Isamu00> yes I do, open it?
#2502 [23:14] <zkxs> SteveTheCat, if you wander around grass, forest, and tagia enough you will eventually find wolves. a good sign they are nearby is wool on the ground from eaten sheep
#2503 [23:14] <Scott> Do you have any worlds you want to keep?
#2504 [23:15] <Isamu00> working game>crappy worlds
#2505 [23:15] <SteveTheCat> should I stay in the same biom?
#2506 [23:15] <Isamu00> delete it?
#2507 [23:15] <Scott> sure
#2508 [23:15] <Isamu00> done
#2509 [23:15] <SteveTheCat> Should I stay in the same biome and keep looking in it? or look for another tiaga biome?
#2510 [23:15] <Scott> Okay now delete anything you've downloaded in attempt to play the game
#2511 [23:16] <Isamu00> kk
#2512 [23:16] <Isamu00> thanks
#2513 [23:16] <SteveTheCat> taiga*
#2514 [23:16] <Scott> and finally download this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip unzip it and drag Minecraft.app to your Applications folder
#2515 [23:16] <zkxs> SteveTheCat, wolves never seem to appear when you look for them... if i were you i'd just carry around some bones and go about my normal business
#2516 [23:17] <Isamu00> :/
#2517 [23:17] <Isamu00> same thing happened
#2518 [23:17] <Scott> what happened?
#2519 [23:17] <SteveTheCat> also how long do dropped items last for?
#2520 [23:17] <Isamu00> run application from internet, then nothing, it closed
#2521 [23:18] <Scott> Odd
#2522 [23:18] <Isamu00> when I put it in ym dock to run from there, or bounced once then nothign
#2523 [23:18] <Scott> Click the spotlight button (top right) and type Terminal and then press enter
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#2525 [23:19] <zkxs> SteveTheCat, about 5 minutes
#2526 [23:19] <Scott> You should see a terminal window now, type java -version and tell me what it says
#2527 [23:19] <Guest38660> i just bought the game and have a MAC but when i log in and load the world, the screen goes black and i lose control of the mouse
#2528 [23:20] <zkxs> Guest38660, what version of Mac are you running?
#2529 [23:20] <Guest38660> Mac OS X 10.5.8
#2530 [23:20] <Isamu00> java version "1.6.0_29"
#2531 [23:20] <zkxs> ??> Guest38660 mac/10.5.8
#2532 [23:20] <VoxelHead> Guest38660: (mac/10.5.8) Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#2533 [23:20] <VoxelHead> Guest38660: (mac/10.5.8) Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#2534 [23:20] <Scott> Hmmm...
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#2536 [23:21] <Scott> Isamu00 download this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar put it on the desktop
#2537 [23:21] <zkxs> Guest38660, this is a known bug. you can either try a prerelease, wait for notch to update minecraft, or try the fix voxel just mentioned
#2538 [23:21] <SteveTheCat> also it takes so long to get iron
#2539 [23:21] <SteveTheCat> is there a trick to getting it faster?
#2540 [23:21] <Isamu00> kk, there
#2541 [23:21] <SteveTheCat> err finding it faster?
#2542 [23:21] <Guest38660> where would i get the prerelease?
#2543 [23:22] <zkxs> ??> Guest38660 1.9
#2544 [23:22] <Diablodoct0r> Streaming Skyrim Live in 5 minutes. http://livestream.com/diablodoc
#2545 [23:22] <VoxelHead> Guest38660: (1.9) The 1.9 releases are not supported as they are known to be buggy and unstable. If you want to use them anyhow:
#2546 [23:22] <VoxelHead> Guest38660: (1.9) 1.9 prerelease Minecraft client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft.jar -- 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft_server.jar
#2547 [23:23] <zkxs> Guest38660, to install the prerelease you have to download the client jar file and put it where your current jar file is
#2548 [23:23] <Scott> go back to the Terminal Isamu00 and type: cd ~/Desktop and then java -jar minecraft.jar
#2549 [23:24] <zkxs> Guest38660, if you need a tutorial, i found this with google: http://www.minecraftforum.net/videos/view-12619-minecraft-beta-19-pre-release-tutorial-mac/
#2550 [23:26] <Isamu00> holy ****
#2551 [23:26] <Scott> Isamu00: what happened?
#2552 [23:26] <Isamu00> it worked
#2553 [23:26] <Scott> Ok good.
#2554 [23:26] <Scott> Now let's make this easier to load
#2555 [23:26] <Isamu00> thank god I don't wanna do this every time
#2556 [23:27] <Isamu00> replace the .jar I have with this one?
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#2558 [23:27] <sprocket> i bought minecraft but i cant play
#2559 [23:28] <zkxs> sprocket, what is happening, specifically?
#2560 [23:29] <Pix> what does this page say when you login? http://www.minecraft.net/profile
#2561 [23:29] <Pix> wrong channel
#2562 [23:29] <zkxs> Pix, it gives you some options to change password, skin etc
#2563 [23:29] <Pix> lol ik =]
#2564 [23:30] <zkxs> you have been helped ;)
#2565 [23:30] <Scott> Isamu00; Just try opening the .jar
#2566 [23:30] <robs> bought 1.8 , sign in and get a black window. Updated drivers and java, Windows XP
#2567 [23:30] <Isamu00> close it then right?
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#2569 [23:33] <robs> any ideas on how I can log in and play minecraft?
#2570 [23:36] <Isamu00> Scott opening the jap doesn't do anything but slow things down
#2571 [23:36] <Isamu00> *.jar
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#2574 [23:42] <Guest38660> got it to work with the google tutorial, the other one i had issues with
#2575 [23:42] <Guest38660> thank you su much!
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