#MineCraftHelp IRC Chat Logs

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#6 [00:14] <clearieak> When will the option to buy minecraft be on?
#7 [00:15] <clearieak> Anyone know?
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#10 [00:18] <clearieak> Anyone at all know whenever the option to buy minecraft will be on T~T
#11 [00:19] <joathan9255> i need hep!!!!!!!!!
#12 [00:19] <joathan9255> help
#13 [00:19] <libraryaddict> clearieak : http://www.minecraft.net/store This what you looking for?
#14 [00:19] <libraryaddict> joathan9255 what?
#15 [00:19] <clearieak> Can't help at all if you don't say what you need help with xD and lemme see
#16 [00:20] <clearieak> library it is but whenever I complete my transaction is says that it's been disabled for 24 hours.
#17 [00:20] <libraryaddict> wait 24h?
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#19 [00:20] <clearieak> Is it mandatory if I go through paypal instead?
#20 [00:20] <clearieak> pay pal*
#21 [00:21] <libraryaddict> idk. I went though that after alot of shit
#22 [00:21] <libraryaddict> Never had that prob though
#23 [00:21] <joathan9255> i tried buy minecraft and it says wait within an hour i do and it dont do nothing
#24 [00:21] <clearieak> What?
#25 [00:21] <libraryaddict> joathan9255 is saying he isnt a premium
#26 [00:21] <libraryaddict> Or you couldnt buy it?
#27 [00:21] <joathan9255> yes
#28 [00:22] <libraryaddict> Which one?
#29 [00:22] <libraryaddict> And does anyone know why I cant login? I just hang there at "Logging in"
#30 [00:22] <libraryaddict> Then goes end of stream
#31 [00:22] <joathan9255> it said i did then when i go o download it it dont work
#32 [00:22] <libraryaddict> You cant download it?
#33 [00:23] <libraryaddict> http://www.minecraft.net/download right?
#34 [00:24] <joathan9255> k now what
#35 [00:24] <libraryaddict> You running windows?
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#37 [00:24] <joathan9255> yeah
#38 [00:24] <libraryaddict> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#39 [00:25] <joathan9255> do i log in down at the right han corner?
#40 [00:25] <libraryaddict> Yes
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#42 [00:26] <zenon> hey so i just bought minecraft and it is the 1.8 version, i want to play online with friends but it says my clients too old, how do i update to 1.9É
#43 [00:26] <joathan9255> whenever i do itsays user not premium
#44 [00:27] <libraryaddict> You need to buy the game?
#45 [00:27] <zenon> i own the game if youre refering to me
#46 [00:27] <libraryaddict> I wasnt
#47 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> 1.8.1 is the latest stable release of minecraft.
#48 [00:27] <joathan9255> i did like 5 times
#49 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> 1.9 is only available through manual download, as it is only a prerelease
#50 [00:27] <libraryaddict> !paid joathan9255
#51 [00:27] <zenon> @grey, my friend is playing on 1.9, how is this possible
#52 [00:28] <zenon> @grey, thank you, where can i find it
#53 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> ?? 1.9
#54 [00:28] <VoxelHead> 1.9: The 1.9 releases are not supported as they are known to be buggy and unstable. If you want to use them anyhow:
#55 [00:28] <libraryaddict> 1.9 Pre-Release 5 is out (http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft.jar); bugs are expected, use at own risk.
#56 [00:28] <VoxelHead> 1.9: 1.9 prerelease Minecraft client: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft.jar -- 1.9 prerelease Minecraft server: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_9-pre5/minecraft_server.jar
#57 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> ^
#58 [00:28] <zenon> thank you very much, should i not like them how would i downgrade to 1.8 again, just curous
#59 [00:28] <libraryaddict> If you are running vanilla you can just force update
#60 [00:28] <libraryaddict> Will set you back to latest stable
#61 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> Either by making a backup of your minecraft.jar before replacing it, or by force updating it in the launcher's options menu
#62 [00:29] <libraryaddict> GreyVulpine you dont know how to solve my problem do you.
#63 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> I do not know what your issue is
#64 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#65 [00:29] <zenon> ok thank you all very much!!!
#66 [00:29] <libraryaddict> In short the login screen for a server just hangs
#67 [00:29] <libraryaddict> Then I time out
#68 [00:29] <libraryaddict> This is with vanilla and modded installations
#69 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> libraryaddict - Does it happen on all servers, or just one?
#70 [00:30] <libraryaddict> Different server
#71 [00:30] <libraryaddict> s*
#72 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Is this yours? others?
#73 [00:30] <libraryaddict> Everyone else logs into those servers fine
#74 [00:30] <GreyVulpine> Is this on your server? On other servers?/
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#76 [00:30] <libraryaddict> other peoples servers
#77 [00:31] <libraryaddict> Auctally. My laptop is doing the same thing :(
#78 [00:31] <libraryaddict> I think its to do with internet itselfs
#79 [00:31] <libraryaddict> Already reset router.
#80 [00:31] <joathan9255> FUCK THIS SHIT IM OUT
#81 [00:31] * AuBot kicked joathan9255 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oathan9255 :Please keep it civil.)
#82 [00:31] <JohnEBH> Aubot beat you to it =P
#83 [00:31] <libraryaddict> :P
#84 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> Could be anything from a security software on your computer filtering minecraft traffic, to a bad internet connection on your end, to a bad routing issue, to a bad player.dat profile on the server..
#85 [00:32] <libraryaddict> No I dont think its to do with PC auctally. Or the server itself. I could sometimes log in. But now I cant at all
#86 [00:32] <libraryaddict> Different accounts
#87 [00:32] <libraryaddict> And different pcs with different protections
#88 [00:33] <libraryaddict> The server is running fine for everyone else
#89 [00:33] <libraryaddict> Its just the household
#90 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Define, "Everybody else". How big is this server?
#91 [00:33] <GreyVulpine> Who else is joining?
#92 [00:33] <libraryaddict> 20+ on at all times
#93 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> Is it a local network? Does it consist of people outside of the LAN?
#94 [00:34] <zenon> i have on more question, could my friend ( the one with 1.9) come play in a server i make on 1.8 without downgrading his client? i cant seem to download 1.9 properly atm
#95 [00:34] <libraryaddict> Industrial Rage. Official Industrial Craft server. But I tried with a non modded client and non modded server
#96 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> zenon - No
#97 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> zenon - In order for him to play on a 1.8.1 server, he'll need to downgrade to 1.8.1
#98 [00:34] <libraryaddict> I cant touch the server itself. Its not mine
#99 [00:34] <libraryaddict> Hmm
#100 [00:35] <zenon> ok thank you again grey, is there a way other than the links provided to get 1.9? when i clicked the ones provided the download box shows up, i click on it, but nothing happens after that :(
#101 [00:35] <libraryaddict> I wonder if tracerout would reveal anything
#102 [00:35] <libraryaddict> Do you know the command to trace route?
#103 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> zenon - You'll need to replace the file you have with the minecraft.jar file you downoaded
#104 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> libraryaddict - tracert if you're on windows, traceroute if you're on *nix/mac
#105 [00:35] <libraryaddict> kk
#106 [00:35] <zenon> ok so go into the progeram file adn replace the old jar with new one?
#107 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> zenon - No. I assume you're on windows?
#108 [00:36] <zenon> yes windows 7 ( I hate it)
#109 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> zenon - Do you know where you downloaded minecraft.jar from the link to?
#110 [00:36] <zenon> the one that you provided the link to? yes
#111 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> zenon - Go to your start menu, in the search bar at the bottom, please type in: %appdata%
#112 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> After pressing enter, please find ".minecraft", the folder.
#113 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Inside, you'll find the bin folder. that's where you'll find the current 1.8.1 "minecraft.jar"
#114 [00:37] <zenon> sec...
#115 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> That's the file you'll want to back up, and replace with the 1.9 pre5 "minecraft.jar" you got from the link earlier
#116 [00:37] <zenon> ty i found it!!
#117 [00:38] <libraryaddict> :\ Nothing with tracert
#118 [00:38] <libraryaddict> Interesting enough I can ping the server fine
#119 [00:39] <zenon> which file would be the 1.8 jar? i have four options that say there jar files, jinput lwjgl, lwjgl-uti and minecraft
#120 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> try with servers like s.nerd.nu or smp.shadow-craft.net
#121 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> zenon - "minecraft"
#122 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> Your windows 7 is probably hiding the .jar extension
#123 [00:40] <zenon> alright awesome, will let you know if i get it working!
#124 [00:40] <libraryaddict> hey GreyVulpine is the game supposed to lock up so you cant select cancel as you log in to a server?
#125 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> libraryaddict - Hmm, yeah.
#126 [00:41] <libraryaddict> Yere. Those servers just had me get a bad socket connection error
#127 [00:41] <libraryaddict> No end of stream
#128 [00:41] <GreyVulpine> libraryaddict - Are you running minecraft modded then?
#129 [00:41] <libraryaddict> Atm yes
#130 [00:42] <libraryaddict> Ill try complete reinstall shall I
#131 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#132 [00:43] <libraryaddict> Be nice if after minecraft was released. Notch added capes for achievements
#133 [00:44] <libraryaddict> You can select capes per achievement you did
#134 [00:44] <libraryaddict> Achievement get : Staff in #minecraft Achievement get : Give 10 giftcodes
#135 [00:44] <libraryaddict> Same problem im afraid
#136 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Strange, any security software at all?
#137 [00:45] <libraryaddict> Shall I deactivate em all temperarily?
#138 [00:45] <libraryaddict> just AVG and firewall
#139 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Anything besides the standard windows firewall?
#140 [00:46] <libraryaddict> AVG free
#141 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, don't believe we've had that sort of problem with avg free.
#142 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Are you launching minecraft with any special modded launchers?
#143 [00:47] <libraryaddict> nope
#144 [00:47] <SinZ> I use avg free... no problems
#145 [00:47] <libraryaddict> java -Xmx2024M -Xms2024M -jar minecraft.jar
#146 [00:47] <libraryaddict> PAUSE
#147 [00:48] <libraryaddict> Hmm
#148 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> And minecraft.jar is the launcher you got from minecraft.net/download?
#149 [00:48] <libraryaddict> Just got "Took too long to log in"
#150 [00:48] <libraryaddict> Yup
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#153 [00:49] <libraryaddict> Nothing dodgy about my setup
#154 [00:49] <libraryaddict> !paid
#155 [00:49] <libraryaddict> !paid libraryaddict
#156 [00:49] <SinZ> `paid libraryaddict
#157 [00:49] <SinZBot> libraryaddict has paid for Minecraft, I'll give him a hug some other time!
#158 [00:49] <mungunfy> ello?
#159 [00:49] <libraryaddict> mungunfy we are dead
#160 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> Don't know then libraryaddict, gut says internet connection/network problem
#161 [00:49] <Thrae> AVG Free is one of the AVs that can give the Fatal Error (4), so maybe it's related
#162 [00:50] <mungunfy> i can play for a while, but then it black screens
#163 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Well, the only thing I believe this channel has seen avg do, is cause a false positive with minecraft.jar/lwjgl in download
#164 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> the fatal error (4): null error is an avira issue
#165 [00:51] <Kealper> O.o
#166 [00:51] <Kealper> Avira Free or Premium?
#167 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> avira with the web protection aspect
#168 [00:51] <Kealper> oh, Premium
#169 [00:51] <libraryaddict> Its not AVG. So if its network/internet problems. Aside from yelling at ISP theres nothing?
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#171 [00:51] * GreyVulpine pokes Kealper at ?? virus/avira
#171 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.
#172 [00:52] <Kealper> ??< virus/avira
#173 [00:52] <libraryaddict> Oh last thing. I could connect to this site happily before. But no longer. killerbeesgaming.com
#174 [00:52] <libraryaddict> Does that work for you?
#175 [00:52] <Kealper> oh...interesting
#176 [00:52] <Kealper> seems to work
#177 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> We had somebody on a little while ago that gave us a walkthrough of how to add minecraft's amazon link to the exceptions list of avira
#178 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Was a beta tester for avira
#179 [00:53] <Kealper> interesting...i've never had any issues with Avira
#180 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> killerbeesgaming.com seems to work for me libraryaddict
#181 [00:53] <Kealper> but yet again...i don't use the full one
#182 [00:53] * GreyVulpine nods
#182 [00:54] <SinZ> `port killerbesgaming.com 80
#183 [00:54] <SinZBot> Cannot connect to server
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#185 [00:54] <SinZ> `port killerbeesgaming.com 80
#186 [00:54] <SinZBot> Connect was successful - no errors on Port 80 at killerbeesgaming.com
#187 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> Issue also is common with avira 11, I believe
#188 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> at least the version that has the internet protection/webguard/internet thingy
#189 [00:54] <SinZ> <3 SinZBot
#190 [00:54] <GreyVulpine> Whatever avira calls it
#191 [00:54] <libraryaddict> Well I guess its just my ISP. Thanks
#192 [00:55] <libraryaddict> oh dammit
#193 [00:55] <libraryaddict> I got aspargaus for tea :(
#194 [00:55] <Kealper> O.o
#195 [00:55] <Thrae> GreyVulpine: You probably mean Premium, as I use Avira 2012 here no problem
#196 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, there was a guy a week ago that had to uninstall avira 11, and was only able to get minecraft working with avira 12
#197 [00:55] <Thrae> Hmm, I was using Avira 2011 no problem before that for, well, one year
#198 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Before we could get instructions on how to actually add s3.amazonaws.com/* to the list
#199 [00:56] <Thrae> Maybe it's the Premium version
#200 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> This was a recent issue
#201 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Like in the past month this channel has seen at least 6-10 people with avira and fatal error (4): null
#202 [00:58] <Thrae> Well what's a server I can try connecting to on my setup? I always use my own server, here behind the firewall.
#203 [00:59] * |Kiikun| can kick a server online...
#203 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> to test.. the avira thing?
#204 [00:59] <Thrae> Yeah
#205 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> It occurs on minecraft download, hence why s3.amazonaws.com/* needed to be added to the exceptions thing
#206 [01:00] <Thrae> Ahhh
#207 [01:00] <SinZ> I thought it was lwjgl that got blocked on download
#208 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> I don't know, lwjgl as a false positive is a different thing.
#209 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> Happens with mcafee/avg/norton, and a few others
#210 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> avast.
#211 [01:01] <|Kiikun|> ;_;
#212 [01:01] <|Kiikun|> yaarrrharr...
#213 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#214 [01:01] <|Kiikun|> ive never had problems with minecraft and avast o.o;
#215 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Avast, in my experience, has detected several files from games for me over the years as false positives
#216 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Why I don't use it anymore
#217 [01:02] <Thrae> There we go, by enabling ALL of Avira Free 2012 protection I got it the loading bar stuck at "Done Loading"
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#219 [01:03] <Kealper> oh really....
#220 [01:04] * Kealper takes a huge note
#220 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> That's a new one for me.
#221 [01:05] <Thrae> Ack nevermind, something else is wrong, not Avira's fault
#222 [01:05] * GreyVulpine snrks
#222 [01:06] * |Kiikun| points and laughs
#222 [01:06] <Thrae> Yeah there we go, it seems I needed to delete the "version" file before it would re-download
#223 [01:07] <Thrae> Yep, even with all Threat Categories enabled (including "Games"), Avira Free 2012 doesn't block it
#224 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> yeah, then probably just the 2011 version with the webguard/internet protection/firewall has that issue
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#226 [01:10] <Thrae> Which would be the Premium version, the paid version
#227 [01:12] <zenon> it worked perfect!! thank you grey!!
#228 [01:12] <zenon> i started playing totally forgot to let you know
#229 [01:13] * GreyVulpine blinks
#229 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Oh, 1.9 prerelease.
#230 [01:15] * Silent_Samurai wtf's.
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#235 [01:42] <Silent_Samurai> !check 71.193.57.109
#236 [01:43] * |Kiikun| pokes Silent_Samurai o.o;
#236 [01:43] <Silent_Samurai> ?
#237 [01:47] <|Kiikun|> who server you break?
#238 [01:48] <Silent_Samurai> Turns out its a Vent not MC server.
#239 [01:48] <Silent_Samurai> But it still doesn't work haha.
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#241 [01:48] <fuogo> i need help
#242 [01:49] <fuogo> .....
#243 [01:49] <|Kiikun|> ?? telepathy
#244 [01:49] <VoxelHead> telepathy: We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#245 [01:50] <fuogo> i bought mine craft and it wont download on to my computer... i have tried multiple time and it now sends me to a blank page saying server isnt working
#246 [01:52] <fuogo> its not even giving me the option to run it
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#248 [01:55] <fuogo> ......
#249 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe -- this doesn't give you the prompt to download it anyhere?
#250 [01:57] <fuogo> no it say problem loadin the page
#251 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> That exact link I gave you above?
#252 [01:58] <fuogo> yes
#253 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Then you have some sort of software on your computer that's blocking your browser from loading that download
#254 [01:59] <fuogo> ahhh i see well is there anyway i can get my money back
#255 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> refund policy can be found at www.minecraft.net/support -- under payment/refund
#256 [02:00] <fuogo> alright thank you
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#260 [02:08] <zephyrtronium> is it alright if i let a bot sit in here that will do absolutely nothing in here but listen?
#261 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> Rather you didn't.
#262 [02:08] <zephyrtronium> alright
#263 [02:08] <zephyrtronium> alright
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#268 [02:50] <Ponti> hello
#269 [02:52] <Ponti> can seomeon help me please
#270 [02:52] <Ponti> ?
#271 [02:52] <|Kiikun|> possibly. describe the issue and well see what we can do
#272 [02:52] <Ponti> ah thx
#273 [02:53] <Ponti> my soundsystem doesn't start after 30 seconds
#274 [02:53] <Ponti> i've tried updating lwjgl to 1.8.1
#275 [02:53] <Ponti> but nothing
#276 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> lwjgl's latest version is 2.8.1
#277 [02:54] <Ponti> 2.8.1 then :-)
#278 [02:54] <Ponti> the one you can download from the website
#279 [02:54] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on? Could you pastebin the error you're getting?
#280 [02:55] * |Kiikun| has no idea about sound errors besides it being OS/SoundDrivers side... or Paulscode.
#280 [02:56] <Ponti> it's paulscode
#281 [02:56] <Ponti> i'm on ubuntu 10.10
#282 [02:56] <|Kiikun|> the errors say it is?
#283 [02:56] <Ponti> how does pastebin work
#284 [02:56] <Ponti> ?
#285 [02:56] <GreyVulpine> What version of java are you on?
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#287 [02:57] <GreyVulpine> ?? pastebin
#288 [02:57] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#289 [02:57] <Ponti> ah cool
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#291 [02:57] <Ponti> openJDK java 6
#292 [02:57] * |Kiikun| calls it being jdk borking it
#292 [02:57] * GreyVulpine nods
#292 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> OpenJDK does have a tendancy to do that with minecraft
#293 [02:59] <Ponti> http://pastebin.com/4y32npPF
#294 [02:59] <|Kiikun|> from my understanding... openjdk is a completely open source attempt at implimenting java and its JVMs (which contain some proprietary code)... not always 100% compatable.
#295 [03:00] <Ponti> is my pastebin ok?
#296 [03:00] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#298 [03:01] <RiaanJo> Hi.
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#300 [03:01] <RiaanJo> Can somebody here help with Account Autentication issues?
#301 [03:01] <GreyVulpine> Ponti - I'd try installing sun java 6.
#302 [03:01] <Ponti> ok i'll give that a go
#303 [03:02] <|Kiikun|> ??> RiaanJo accounts
#304 [03:02] <VoxelHead> RiaanJo: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#305 [03:02] <RiaanJo> Sigh.....
#306 [03:02] <RiaanJo> Thanks.
#307 [03:02] <|Kiikun|> RiaanJo: you CAN still ask.. but we can only offer sugestions
#308 [03:03] <RiaanJo> But it's more of an Server Autentication failing to verify my account. My local Client logs on fine.
#309 [03:03] <GreyVulpine> RiaanJo - Server something you're running locally?
#310 [03:04] <RiaanJo> Can not connect to any server which tries to verify my account with Mojang.
#311 [03:04] <RiaanJo> So, no, local, remote, does not matter.
#312 [03:04] <RiaanJo> If the server does not verify my account, I can connect without any issues.
#313 [03:05] <RiaanJo> And yes!....I have a valid Account!!!
#314 [03:05] <|Kiikun|> RiaanJo: whats your username?
#315 [03:05] <RiaanJo> Even changed the password and still verification from any server times-out
#316 [03:06] <RiaanJo> Minecraft? RiaanJo
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#318 [03:06] <GreyVulpine> RiaanJo - Have you redownloaded minecraft fresh, including the launcher itself?
#319 [03:06] <RiaanJo> Yep.
#320 [03:07] <RiaanJo> Even tried it on two diffrent PC's. On is OS-X the other Windows.
#321 [03:07] <RiaanJo> Same result
#322 [03:07] <|Kiikun|> RiaanJo: your running 1.8.1 right?
#323 [03:07] <RiaanJo> Yep.
#324 [03:07] <|Kiikun|> try connectign to kiichan.is-a-geek.net
#325 [03:08] <RiaanJo> Atempting
#326 [03:08] <|Kiikun|> !check
#327 [03:08] <|Kiikun|> :P
#328 [03:08] <|Kiikun|> ok forgot if i might have messed it up when bessing with router..
#329 [03:09] <|Kiikun|> hmmm.... [INFO] /219.89.223.34:1813 lost connection
#330 [03:09] <RiaanJo> Thats me.
#331 [03:10] <Ponti> hey guys, I'm using sun java now
#332 [03:10] <Ponti> the same problem
#333 [03:10] <RiaanJo> Yep, same message as my my local server. If I set "Online" to false, I connect without any issues.
#334 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, nickname authentication issue then.
#335 [03:11] <RiaanJo> Yep.
#336 [03:11] <RiaanJo> And it's spreading!
#337 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> Does this return "Bad Login" for you: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=notch&password=notreal&version=13
#338 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> Also, if you fill in the fields, it should return a string of numbers, indicating a valid login token
#339 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> Ponti - How much RAM is on the system?
#340 [03:12] <RiaanJo> Nope, just: the following error: Internal client Error: java.net.SocketException: Connection Reset
#341 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not right
#342 [03:12] <RiaanJo> 4 GB
#343 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> security software of some sort RiaanJo?
#344 [03:13] <RiaanJo> Nope.
#345 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Firewall? router?
#346 [03:13] <RiaanJo> Yes but Those have been elliminated.
#347 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> What sort of network security solution do you use?
#348 [03:13] * |Kiikun| wonders if it might be hosts.
#348 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> Something is closing the connection to minecraft's login server on your end
#349 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> That could be
#350 [03:14] <RiaanJo> On my end?
#351 [03:14] <Ponti> 2 GB and 2 GB swap
#352 [03:14] <Ponti> you want me to try with XMS1024?
#353 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> ??> RiaanJo win/hosts
#354 [03:14] <VoxelHead> RiaanJo: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#355 [03:14] <VoxelHead> RiaanJo: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#356 [03:14] <|Kiikun|> RiaanJo: yea, your end. it also has to affect your local computer if your on-same-comp server gave the same 'lost connection' error
#357 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> Ponti - From the error report, it's giving back a "java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Direct buffer memory"
#358 [03:15] <Ponti> yes
#359 [03:15] <RiaanJo> No need for pastbin. Only one entry: 127.0.0.1 localhost
#360 [03:15] <Ponti> it still gives that
#361 [03:16] <RiaanJo> *sigh*
#362 [03:17] <|Kiikun|> RiaanJo: you sure everything is disabled? some security software lieks to SAY its disabled.. yet still blocks stuff...
#363 [03:18] <Ponti> when i start minecraft, the system memory goes to 87%
#364 [03:18] <Ponti> but the swap is only at 0.4
#365 [03:18] <Ponti> %
#366 [03:18] <RiaanJo> Nope, clean.
#367 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Ponti - Could you execute minecraft with less heap size?
#368 [03:18] <Ponti> how do i do that?
#369 [03:18] <RiaanJo> Ok, do you want the long or short debug that I have done?
#370 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> jar -Xms512M -Xmx512M -jar minecraft.jar
#371 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> er, java
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#374 [03:20] <Ponti> less memory usage, same problem
#375 [03:20] <mib_6nd1lp> can someone help me
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#377 [03:21] <epic747> hey
#378 [03:21] <mib_6nd1lp> Can someone help
#379 [03:21] <epic747> can someone help
#380 [03:21] <Ponti> wait i'm gonna make a new pastebin
#381 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Really should've been off hours ago.
#382 [03:22] <Ponti> http://pastebin.com/Rh0rK1xJ
#383 [03:22] <epic747> guys can u help
#384 [03:22] <epic747> !!!!!!!!!!
#385 [03:22] <mib_6nd1lp> My Minecraft not workin can someome help
#386 [03:22] <RiaanJo> Short version: Tried connecting to local Debian Server on "Dumb" Switch from a Apple running MAX OS-X. Failed. Same procedure from Windows XP - Failed. Changed craftbukkit server server.properties "online-mode" to false. Connected from both machines.
#387 [03:22] <Ponti> this messages i get at the very beginning
#388 [03:23] <RiaanJo> Same procedure with an external server in Australia.
#389 [03:23] <RiaanJo> Same result
#390 [03:23] <RiaanJo> PS, I'm in New Zealand
#391 [03:23] <RiaanJo> So debug valid.
#392 [03:23] <|Kiikun|> RiaanJo: i think its something on your network.... since its happenign local to you it might be the router.
#393 [03:23] * RiaanJo lets out a big sigh
#393 [03:24] <RiaanJo> Fuckit....I'll try again next week.
#394 [03:24] * AuBot kicked RiaanJo from #minecrafthelp (Reason: iaanJo :Please keep it civil.)
#395 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Ponti - Wait, where are you executing this?
#396 [03:24] <Ponti> in the terminal
#397 [03:24] <epic747> i get the message internal client error: java.net,socketexception: Connection reset
#398 [03:24] <epic747> iget thiua everytimer
#399 [03:24] <epic747> i get this everytime
#400 [03:25] <mib_6nd1lp> hay u guys my mcsays its not downloaded how do u fix this?
#401 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> mib_6nd1lp - Did you pay for minecraft?
#402 [03:25] <mib_6nd1lp> yeah
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#404 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> mib_6nd1lp - What does it say to the left of "not downloaded"?
#405 [03:25] <epic747> can anyone help my messege above
#406 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> Ponti - Yeah, but in what directory are you in?
#407 [03:25] <mib_6nd1lp> nothing
#408 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> epic747 - Try the server: s.nerd.nu
#409 [03:25] <epic747> any help
#410 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> mib_6nd1lp - It says something, look again
#411 [03:25] <Ponti> home/Minecraft
#412 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> Ponti - Is that where you have minecraft.jar downloaded to?
#413 [03:26] <Ponti> yeah
#414 [03:26] <epic747> my minecraft is really screwing up
#415 [03:26] <mib_6nd1lp> GREY under try again and play offline it has (not downloaded)
#416 [03:26] <epic747> ive tried everything
#417 [03:27] <epic747> plz help
#418 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Ponti - did you run it with java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft.jar , also please use Sun's JVM.
#419 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Multiplayer Beta Server
#420 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> If you're running on Windows and just want to set up a server easily, download Minecraft_Server.exe (802 KB) and run it.
#421 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> If you want to run the server on any other OS or without GUI it's a bit more involved (see this wiki article for a tutorial). First make sure you can use java from the command line. On Linux and Mac OS X this should already be set up but on Windows you might have to tinker with the PATH environment variable. Download and run minecraft_server.jar (621 KB) with java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M
#422 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui.
#423 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> er
#424 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> crap
#425 [03:27] <epic747> anyone help me plz
#426 [03:27] <epic747> its a bukkit server
#427 [03:27] <mib_6nd1lp> epic whats wrong
#428 [03:28] <Ponti> -jar minecraft.jar
#429 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Ponti, try executing it with java -Xms512M -Xmx512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#430 [03:28] <Ponti> -cp minecraft.jar?
#431 [03:28] <mib_6nd1lp> grey
#432 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> mib_6nd1lp - Which one of these do you see? http://i.imgur.com/V1pYh.png
#433 [03:28] <|Kiikun|> mib_6nd1lp: we know and comprehend that it says (Not Downloaded) below the greyed out 'Play Offline' button, which itself is below a 'Try Again' button.
#434 [03:28] <epic747> i get the message internal client error: java.net,socketexception: Connection reset
#435 [03:28] <epic747> this is my problem
#436 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Ponti - Exactly what you see there.
#437 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> epic747 - Try the server: s.nerd.nu
#438 [03:29] <epic747> i have it still fies
#439 [03:29] <mib_6nd1lp> i get the pic u showed
#440 [03:29] <epic747> i mean does tjhat thing
#441 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> mib_6nd1lp - Which one of those do you see
#442 [03:29] <GreyVulpine> epic747 - In the multiplayer field, go to Direct connect, and enter in "s.nerd.nu" without quotes
#443 [03:29] <mib_6nd1lp> login failed
#444 [03:29] <epic747> i have
#445 [03:29] <epic747> exaclty what i did
#446 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> mib_6nd1lp - Means your username/password is wrong, please ensure you've entered it correctly
#447 [03:30] <Ponti> ok
#448 [03:30] <|Kiikun|> mib_6nd1lp: login failed = youre typing your username or password wrong. retype them
#449 [03:30] <|Kiikun|> gah..
#450 [03:30] <Ponti> the first error messages are gone
#451 [03:30] * GreyVulpine snrks
#451 [03:30] <mib_6nd1lp> k
#452 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> epic747 - And what happens?
#453 [03:30] <Ponti> but still no sound and the same errors
#454 [03:30] * |Kiikun| goes back to script!
#454 [03:30] <epic747> nothing it goes to error screen
#455 [03:30] <epic747> internal client error: java.net,socketexception: Connection reset
#456 [03:30] <epic747> this comes up
#457 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> epic747 - Got any security software or firewall installed on your computer?
#458 [03:31] <mib_6nd1lp> THANKS GREY
#459 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> !check s.nerd.nu
#460 [03:31] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#460 [03:31] <epic747> i have suirity but i turned them all off
#461 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Something's blocking your minecraft from connecting to a server on your end
#462 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> The server is up, and there are people playing on that server right now
#463 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> Ponti - Pastebin?
#464 [03:32] <epic747> i know
#465 [03:32] <Ponti> k
#466 [03:32] <epic747> does anyone have a mic so we can chat easier
#467 [03:33] <Ponti> http://pastebin.com/6mP4jZFN
#468 [03:33] <epic747> i am really annoyed
#469 [03:33] <mib_6nd1lp> grey now it wont connect to any servers its all green and saying u can but it wwont connect
#470 [03:33] <epic747> ive playe dlately then i died then accdently clicked title menu then when i tried come back in the messeg comes up
#471 [03:34] <mib_6nd1lp> epic i have a mic
#472 [03:34] <epic747> kk
#473 [03:34] <epic747> can we chat
#474 [03:34] <mib_6nd1lp> k 1 sec
#475 [03:35] <epic747> i am worried that my computer is screwed up
#476 [03:35] <mib_6nd1lp> epic i can chat now
#477 [03:36] <mib_6nd1lp> u got skype
#478 [03:36] <epic747> yes
#479 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> Ponti - You're not running any mods? Have you tried clearing bin and resources from your ~/.minecraft/ folder?
#480 [03:36] <Ponti> i'm running loads of mods actually
#481 [03:36] <mib_6nd1lp> cool epic search 4 chuck10931
#482 [03:36] <epic747> mib
#483 [03:36] <mib_6nd1lp> yeah
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#485 [03:37] <epic747> can u search me insstead jon_erhl_limos
#486 [03:37] <epic747> sprry
#487 [03:37] <epic747> sorry
#488 [03:38] <mib_6nd1lp> epic i did it
#489 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> Ponti - Betting one of them is causing your issue
#490 [03:38] <Ponti> i'll try to run without mods
#491 [03:40] <Ponti> it works
#492 [03:40] <Ponti> DOH
#493 [03:41] <Ponti> ok
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#495 [03:41] <Ponti> i'll try to figure out which one is causing it
#496 [03:41] <Ponti> thx for the help man
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#507 [04:50] <gartral> does the water-light bug affect mob spawns?
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#518 [06:36] <mib_kx0u5s> Hello I have a question
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#520 [06:40] <keret> hello
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#522 [06:41] <Oakxi> hi
#523 [06:41] <Oakxi> hi
#524 [06:42] <keret> hey
#525 [06:42] <Oakxi> help
#526 [06:42] <keret> what
#527 [06:42] <keret> it's me cen XD
#528 [06:42] <Oakxi> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XZTUpEt-H8
#529 [06:42] <Oakxi> -_-
#530 [06:43] <keret> :P
#531 [06:43] <Oakxi> XD
#532 [06:43] <keret> later mga 9
#533 [06:43] <Oakxi> kk
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#540 [07:32] <Thrae> ??< irc
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#543 [07:36] <mib_b93cqd> test, ...
#544 [07:36] <Thrae> Test received.
#545 [07:36] <mib_b93cqd> hi, why i can chat in #minecraft room?
#546 [07:37] <Thrae> ?? irc
#547 [07:37] <VoxelHead> irc: For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#548 [07:37] <VoxelHead> irc: If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#549 [07:37] <Thrae> I suggest first selecting a nickname using /nick whatever
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#551 [07:37] <Sanzzes> Test
#552 [07:38] <Thrae> Sanzzes: Hi again
#553 [07:38] <Sanzzes> Hi i get an Minecraft error when i try to download it after login
#554 [07:38] <MikoXable> i am already registered on irC
#555 [07:38] <Thrae> Sanzzes: Your Fatal Error (4) problem, you need to disable your Anti-Virus on Windows
#556 [07:38] <Sanzzes> ok i will test it
#557 [07:38] <Sanzzes> but before it works
#558 [07:38] <Sanzzes> with anti virus
#559 [07:38] <Thrae> MikoXable: Then identify with Nickserv
#560 [07:39] <Sanzzes> Anti Virus deactivated
#561 [07:39] <Sanzzes> same error as before
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#563 [07:39] <MikoXable> test, again
#564 [07:39] <rymate1234> lol
#565 [07:40] <rymate1234> try joining #minecraft
#566 [07:40] <Sanzzes> i get anytime the Fatal error occurred(4): null
#567 [07:40] <Thrae> MikoXable: Did you identify with NickServ?
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#569 [07:40] <Kahitar> Hey guys
#570 [07:40] <Kahitar> someone can help me?
#571 [07:40] <Thrae> Sanzzes: OK, what version of Java is installed according to http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#572 [07:41] <Sanzzes> the newest
#573 [07:41] <Sanzzes> i updated it last 2mins
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#575 [07:41] <Sanzzes> You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 29).
#576 [07:41] <MikoXable> When will be released version 1.9 Minecraft?
#577 [07:41] <TheNytangel_> November 18th
#578 [07:41] <rymate1234> ^_^
#579 [07:42] <Sanzzes> see you newest version
#580 [07:42] <Thrae> Sanzzes: Do you have any other security software? Firewall? other Anti-Virus?
#581 [07:42] <Sanzzes> only windows firewall
#582 [07:43] <Kahitar> I have a problem with pistons... i saw in some videos piston transporter, going up like stairs and transporting for example drops up. i build this stair aswell but in one world the pistons doesnt move the drops... what is wrong there?
#583 [07:43] <MikoXable> friend told me that it should be released today... :-/
#584 [07:43] <Sanzzes> i shut off all firewalls antivirus and same error as before
#585 [07:44] <Thrae> MikoXable: It's a very common mistake -- https://encrypted.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=minecraft+11.11.11
#586 [07:44] <Sanzzes> he will retrieve the lwjgl.jar
#587 [07:45] <Thrae> MikoXable: Basically people got confused, Notch was talking about Skyrim
#588 [07:45] <Sanzzes> CARNIVAL TODAY
#589 [07:45] <Sanzzes> in GERMANY :D
#590 [07:45] <Sanzzes> 5 Season ^^
#591 [07:45] <MikoXable> hm...thx
#592 [07:46] <Sanzzes> Thrae more Ideas to fix it
#593 [07:46] <Kahitar> does anyone have an idea what i might have done wrong with my piston stair-transporter?
#594 [07:46] <Thrae> Sanzzes: http://www.ghacks.net/2011/05/04/the-benefits-of-windows-diagnostic-startup-mode/ <-- follow these instructions to do Diagnostic Startup
#595 [07:47] <Sanzzes> ok
#596 [07:49] <Sanzzes> re
#597 [07:49] <Sanzzes> dont work with this trick
#598 [07:49] <Sanzzes> too
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#601 [07:54] <jcarroll> Can anyone here help me with a game purchase I've been trying to make
#602 [07:55] <rymate1234> which game?
#603 [07:55] <jcarroll> minecraft
#604 [07:55] <Sanzzes> Thrae you see my sentence it dont work
#605 [07:56] <jcarroll> after i enter all of the credit card info it wants a phone that supports SMS
#606 [07:57] <jcarroll> that's about the dumbest on-line purchase requirement i've ever seen
#607 [07:57] <rymate1234> erm
#608 [07:57] <jcarroll> i dont have a phone that can get text messages
#609 [07:57] <rymate1234> use paypal
#610 [07:57] <rymate1234> :3
#611 [07:57] <Sanzzes> the updater sucks at this time
#612 [07:57] <rymate1234> use paypal
#613 [07:57] <jcarroll> i hate paypal
#614 [07:57] <rymate1234> use it without signing up
#615 [07:58] <Kahitar> can you see what im writting?
#616 [07:58] <jcarroll> i have an account ... i guess i'll use it
#617 [07:58] <rymate1234> :P
#618 [07:58] <jcarroll> whoever runs minecraft should fire the payment system people
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#621 [08:00] <Kahitar> aaah, can u read what im writting guys?? noone answers me xD
#622 [08:00] <rymate1234> jcarroll, ok, tell notch to file mollstam then
#623 [08:00] <rymate1234> Kahitar, this isn't for help with piston stuff :P
#624 [08:00] <aljorub> minecraft requirements
#625 [08:01] <rymate1234> A PC
#626 [08:01] <Thrae> jcarroll: There is no "payment system people" -- if you use a credit/debit card, you're using Moneybookers
#627 [08:01] <Kahitar> puh... ok ty
#628 [08:01] <rymate1234> with more than 1GB ram
#629 [08:01] <aljorub> 2
#630 [08:01] <aljorub> gb
#631 [08:01] <rymate1234> nope
#632 [08:01] <jcarroll> it looks like an embedded third party payment system
#633 [08:01] <Kahitar> you could have said this earlier xD but thy
#634 [08:01] <rymate1234> I got minecraft running with 1GB ram
#635 [08:01] <jcarroll> if it's not ... then they should fix the SMS requirement
#636 [08:02] <jcarroll> but thanks
#637 [08:02] <aljorub> how do you pay
#638 [08:03] <rymate1234> aljorub, click the buy now buttion on the website
#639 [08:03] <rymate1234> xD
#640 [08:04] <aljorub> i no
#641 [08:04] <jcarroll> ha .... tried a different card .... no SMS requirement
#642 [08:04] <rymate1234> lol
#643 [08:04] <jcarroll> apparently they dont like Amex
#644 [08:04] <aljorub> but do you pay on the minecraft website or another
#645 [08:04] <rymate1234> xD
#646 [08:04] <rymate1234> minecraft.net
#647 [08:05] <rymate1234> never pay for minecraft anywhere else other than from minecraft.net
#648 [08:05] <Guest_> Hey, my friend is having some issues with lag when he joins my server, but I don't lag, I have full abrs, and according to the server, so does he. But he's able to play fine on single player and stuff for themost part.
#649 [08:05] <jcarroll> minecraft ... but the payment page is clearly a third party embedded app by "Monrybookers"
#650 [08:05] <Guest_> bars*
#651 [08:05] <aljorub> is it safe
#652 [08:05] <jcarroll> yes ... it was minecraft.net ... the payment page on mincraft.net embeds javascript from moneybookers
#653 [08:06] <jcarroll> 3rd party payment people ... the guys id fire :)
#654 [08:06] <jcarroll> anyway ... thanks
#655 [08:06] <jcarroll> see ya
#656 [08:06] <rymate1234> bai
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#658 [08:07] <rymate1234> Lag, is your friend connecting via the internet?
#659 [08:07] <Lag> Well, yeah, how else would he join 'my server' :L
#660 [08:07] <rymate1234> well
#661 [08:07] <rymate1234> maybe your upload sucks
#662 [08:08] <rymate1234> test your internet at speedtest.net
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#664 [08:08] <Lag> Everyone else can join fine, without lag..
#665 [08:08] <rymate1234> and send me the link that you get when you click share result
#666 [08:08] <rymate1234> maybe his internet sucks then
#667 [08:10] <Lag> Well, he can play other things, like WoW and stuff, without any lag, which doesn't really make sense to me. You'd think just about anyone would be able to play Minecraft fine..
#668 [08:10] <rymate1234> well
#669 [08:10] <rymate1234> minecraft is very complex
#670 [08:11] <rymate1234> you've gotta send every block the player can see
#671 [08:12] <Lag> Yeah his internet is fine, and so is mine, but when he tries to cut down a tree, or punch a sheep or whatever, it happens like 20 seconds later. But he's able to move around fine, and load the map fine/
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#673 [08:16] <Lag> Exactly. There's no logical explanation.
#674 [08:16] <Kahitar> ROFL ! found my mistake with the piston transporter... if i'm looking at the item which i want to be transported, it doesnt work... if im not looking at it, it works...
#675 [08:17] <Kahitar> just wanted to share this with u^^
#676 [08:17] <Kahitar> strange bug
#677 [08:17] <rymate1234> Lag, maybe his upload sucks
#678 [08:23] <Lag> Maybe, I'll have him do the test.
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#681 [08:26] <Lag> Than again, I did say that he can load the map, and travel around fine.. :l
#682 [08:26] <zucchini> What is the minimal requirements you need to run Minecraft.
#683 [08:27] <Lag> A mouse, W,A,S, and D buttons, and a monitor.
#684 [08:27] <zucchini> -.-
#685 [08:27] <Lag> ^_^
#686 [08:27] <zucchini> I mean graphic wise.
#687 [08:27] <zucchini> =]
#688 [08:27] <Lag> Can't be too much, Windows 98 can run it fine.
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#690 [08:28] <zucchini> Well i mean, my system can run it just fine, i'm just tired of it being jumpy.
#691 [08:29] <Lag> Could be your processor, some are unfit to run it, and cause it to speed up, or slow down.
#692 [08:29] <westmi> install a graphics card
#693 [08:30] <zucchini> Isn't a card hardware? Could i just get a driver?
#694 [08:30] <Lag> The graphics drivers are for video cards.
#695 [08:31] <zucchini> I know that, i mean, do i really have to get a new card for it too run smoother?
#696 [08:31] <westmi> what do you have for a card?
#697 [08:31] <zucchini> What ever my Inspiron came with. x.x
#698 [08:32] <westmi> integraded into the mb, then? not a separate? is that a laptop?
#699 [08:33] <zucchini> Correct, it's a laptop.
#700 [08:33] <aljorub> is this ok intel pentuim dual core 2gb of ram and Intel(R) G41 Express Chipset
#701 [08:33] <zucchini> Mb?
#702 [08:33] <Lag> That's why.
#703 [08:33] <Lag> Games are always jumpy on laptops, unless they're specifically built custom for gaming.
#704 [08:33] <zucchini> Well damn.
#705 [08:34] <zucchini> Guess i'll have to suck it up.
#706 [08:34] <westmi> then if you want an improvement in performance, i would suggest you get a desktop with a separate graphics card
#707 [08:34] <Lag> ^
#708 [08:34] <Lag> Desktops are the way to go if you plan on doing any type of gameplay.
#709 [08:34] <aljorub> is it ok
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#711 [08:34] <zucchini> I'll keep that in mind, thanks anyway. =]
#712 [08:35] <aljorub> anyone
#713 [08:38] <westmi> aljorub, should be alright
#714 [08:38] <aljorub> thanx
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#716 [08:42] <Elethir> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 11.10 on my Samsung NC10 netbook. When I start the "classic" game in browser, the game stays black. I already installed sun-java and make sure that my netbook use it. ut it's still black.
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#724 [09:30] <oldtopman> quiet.
#725 [09:31] <oldtopman> Is everyone lpaying skyrim today?
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#727 [09:34] <onix> i have a netbook will minecraft work for me
#728 [09:35] <onix> because when i played the demo version thing it wouldnt work
#729 [09:35] <onix> is it because of my computer
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#731 [09:37] <lawlhalla> Heya people, for some reason my username completely disappeared from minecraft, and i cant get to the registered emailadress anymore since it expired ( schoolmail ) Does anybody know what to do ?
#732 [09:38] <oldtopman> lawlhalla: You don't remember your username?
#733 [09:38] <lawlhalla> The problem is, i do. but thats what i ment with it disappeared from minecraf
#734 [09:38] <lawlhalla> can't login
#735 [09:39] <lawlhalla> says its not a username. But its even in autofill. in the .exe
#736 [09:39] <lawlhalla> i dont have other usernames, tried my other password. tried my emailadres as username. nothing.
#737 [09:39] <oldtopman> What's your username?
#738 [09:39] <lawlhalla> the username is definitely right, same as here : lawlhalla
#739 [09:40] <oldtopman> !paid lawlhalla
#740 [09:40] <oldtopman> So you don't remember your password and you don't have your email?
#741 [09:41] <lawlhalla> I do remember my password. But it doesn't work. So that either means my minds already breaking up. or that its changed for some reason. But no i dont have acces to my old emailadress. after you graduate from school they delete it after 3 months
#742 [09:42] <lawlhalla> i figured i transferred everything. but i gues i forgot about minecraft.
#743 [09:42] <oldtopman> so...
#744 [09:42] <oldtopman> Your minecraft has been hacked and the email that you used is dead.
#745 [09:43] <oldtopman> We can't help you much there, but there should be a form for that sort of thing on minecraft.net
#746 [09:43] <lawlhalla> minecraft.net fails especially nice on having any customer support easily available.
#747 [09:43] <lawlhalla> sigh
#748 [09:44] <oldtopman> We're naught but volunteers
#749 [09:44] <lawlhalla> no offence ment. But the one's creating the game could have supplied an emailadress or support system just for this.
#750 [09:46] <oldtopman> lawlhalla: Did you try this? http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#751 [09:47] <lawlhalla> No i have not, maybe i am terribly blind but i couldn't find a link to that on the site.Thanks going to use that right now.
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#753 [09:49] <oldtopman> lawlhalla: Don't feel bad, it's buried pretty deep.
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#756 [09:54] <lawlhalla> oldtopman any chance you know if the receipt they ask for is the paypal transaction reference ?
#757 [09:54] <oldtopman> No idea, I've never used it.
#758 [09:55] <lawlhalla> Ok, well its the only code thats available from looking through the paypal history. so i gues that has to be it.
#759 [09:55] <lawlhalla> 8 okt 2010.
#760 [09:56] <lawlhalla> oldtopman thanks again for the help. Now its just waiting for the response. Have a nice day.
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#765 [10:11] <mib_xkn87h> hi im on a mac and when i try to play it goes to the dirt screen then it blacks out and in browser it just goes white
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#778 [11:35] <roca23> hey somnebody online in here? i've got a question
#779 [11:36] <JonathanHA> yo
#780 [11:36] <roca23> hey
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#782 [11:37] <roca23> since yesterday minecraft tells me i am no premium user. can you tell me why that is?
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#787 [11:40] <roca23> somebody perhaps?
#788 [11:42] <mib_uqljrq> I have try to download minecraft and it said it cant finsh downloading help
#789 [11:46] <mib_uqljrq> I have windows 7 running kaspersky anti virus
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#792 [12:05] <zarni> Hi
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#795 [12:08] <zarni> I've bought Minecraft a few minutes ago via electronic debit, i got a message that there was a problem, but the next website says "Purchasing complete". I'm not sure if the purchase was ok or not. And i got no email yet
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#797 [12:08] <westmi> try to download the minecraft.jar
#798 [12:08] <westmi> if it works, your gtg
#799 [12:09] <zarni> I think electronic debit need some days
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#801 [12:10] <westmi> it should be instantaneous
#802 [12:10] <roca23> hey westmi, since yesterday when i try to log in, minecraft tells me that i am no premium member.
#803 [12:10] <roca23> can you tell me why that is?
#804 [12:10] <westmi> nope-sorry
#805 [12:10] <zarni> Ok
#806 [12:10] <zarni> I'll try it with mastercard
#807 [12:11] <westmi> crap- at least try to log into the minecraft.net site first!
#808 [12:12] <westmi> and i'm back to the game
#809 [12:13] <clarjon1> roca23: what's your minecraft name?
#810 [12:13] <roca23> roca23
#811 [12:13] <clarjon1> !paid roca23
#812 [12:13] <roca23> yeah that's what i mean
#813 [12:13] <roca23> i bought it months ago
#814 [12:13] <clarjon1> you should contact mojang then
#815 [12:14] <roca23> how am i supposed to do that?
#816 [12:14] <clarjon1> ?? support
#817 [12:14] <VoxelHead> support: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#818 [12:14] <roca23> thank you
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#821 [12:24] <mib_430zyb> hi i keep getting an error saying it cant download minecraft i have a window 7
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#823 [12:27] <Skipper2100> ... Anyone here?
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#825 [12:33] <anonimous> hi
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#827 [12:33] <anonimous> hi
#828 [12:33] <anonimous> i need help
#829 [12:34] <anonimous> I need help on Minecraft fails to load and keeps the black screen
#830 [12:35] <anonimous> I can do, download all the drivers and java
#831 [12:35] <clarjon1> anonimous: what OS?
#832 [12:35] <Skipper2100> You should try Force Update... It worked for me once
#833 [12:36] <anonimous> but the game is still loaded wrong and leaving a black screen supervisor warned me that reload works ono per server
#834 [12:36] <anonimous> ?
#835 [12:36] <anonimous> os
#836 [12:36] <clarjon1> Operating System
#837 [12:36] <clarjon1> Windows, Mac, Linux
#838 [12:36] <anonimous> hum
#839 [12:36] <anonimous> window 7
#840 [12:36] <anonimous> windows*
#841 [12:36] <Skipper2100> Oh yeah, about my problem. I killed my minecraft.jar and can't force update another one
#842 [12:36] <anonimous> -_--
#843 [12:36] <Skipper2100> And can't delete it either...
#844 [12:36] <anonimous> i not killed my minecraft
#845 [12:37] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: blast your %appdata%/.minecraft/bin folder
#846 [12:37] <Skipper2100> I tried
#847 [12:37] <clarjon1> rename it?
#848 [12:37] <Skipper2100> My compuer freezes to a stop
#849 [12:37] <Skipper2100> I tried that too
#850 [12:37] <anonimous> but I would have loaded the entire game
#851 [12:37] <clarjon1> That is... odd.
#852 [12:37] <Skipper2100> Yeah
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#854 [12:37] <Skipper2100> I bet it's just that my top-notch brand new computer is a peice of crap...
#855 [12:37] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: Try renaming it after a fresh reboot?
#856 [12:37] <anonimous> I can do?
#857 [12:38] <Skipper2100> Yeah, mabey
#858 [12:38] <anonimous> y tryed now
#859 [12:38] <anonimous> i try all posibilities
#860 [12:38] <Skipper2100> Yes. That worked entirely.
#861 [12:38] <anonimous> but game load wrong
#862 [12:38] <Skipper2100> Wow. Facepalm.
#863 [12:38] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: that worked? :)
#864 [12:38] <Skipper2100> Yup
#865 [12:38] <anonimous> -_-
#866 [12:38] <clarjon1> sounds like java didn't close properly
#867 [12:38] <clarjon1> and was keeping a file open
#868 [12:39] <anonimous> nio
#869 [12:39] <anonimous> no
#870 [12:39] <Skipper2100> Aye, that was it.
#871 [12:39] <anonimous> all programs of minecraft
#872 [12:39] <clarjon1> Windows won't let ya delete/rename files that are in use. Hence the reboot :)
#873 [12:39] <anonimous> are closed on my pc
#874 [12:39] <Skipper2100> Now time to install mod loader here...
#875 [12:39] <clarjon1> anonimous: I'm talking to skipper.
#876 [12:39] <anonimous> ok
#877 [12:39] <anonimous> no
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#879 [12:39] <anonimous> i have all mods too
#880 [12:40] <Skipper2100> Agh. Do you know how to 7zip the jar file?
#881 [12:40] <anonimous> no
#882 [12:40] <Skipper2100> I'm used to a mac, and its different
#883 [12:40] <anonimous> but all mods run correct last gaming
#884 [12:40] <clarjon1> Just right click the file, Open With, choose 7zip
#885 [12:40] <anonimous> i chosed
#886 [12:40] <Skipper2100> There is no 7zip though
#887 [12:40] <clarjon1> do you have 7zip installed?
#888 [12:40] <mr_trousers> I cannot play minecraft beacause it says i need an accelerated video driver. does anyone know where i can update it/
#889 [12:40] <Skipper2100> Yeah
#890 [12:40] <anonimous> yes
#891 [12:41] <Skipper2100> Anonimous
#892 [12:41] <Skipper2100> He is talking to me
#893 [12:41] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: is your windows setup to show the file extensions?
#894 [12:41] <anonimous> ?¿?¿?¿
#895 [12:41] <anonimous> yes
#896 [12:41] <Skipper2100> Uhh, whaaat?
#897 [12:41] <Skipper2100> Anonimous, again, Clar is talking to me
#898 [12:42] <anonimous> so many people here are not I talk
#899 [12:42] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: When you go into the minecraft bin folder, does it show "minecraft JAR file" or "minecraft.jar jar file" in the list?
#900 [12:42] <anonimous> yees
#901 [12:42] <Skipper2100> The latter
#902 [12:42] <clarjon1> goodie
#903 [12:42] <anonimous> -_-
#904 [12:42] <mr_trousers> Can anyone help?
#905 [12:42] <Skipper2100> Err, sorry
#906 [12:42] <Skipper2100> The first one
#907 [12:42] <clarjon1> oh
#908 [12:42] <clarjon1> hm
#909 [12:42] <clarjon1> one second
#910 [12:42] <Skipper2100> It shows Minecraft JAR file
#911 [12:43] <Skipper2100> Should I rename it?
#912 [12:43] <anonimous> ok
#913 [12:43] <anonimous> yes i rename
#914 [12:43] <Skipper2100> Uggh
#915 [12:43] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: Tools -> Options, click on View tab, and uncheck the "Hide extensions for known file types" box, ten click OK
#916 [12:43] <anonimous> ok
#917 [12:43] <clarjon1> *then
#918 [12:43] <anonimous> i try
#919 [12:43] <Skipper2100> Anonimous, stop. This has nothing to do with you.
#920 [12:43] <Skipper2100> He is talking to me
#921 [12:43] <clarjon1> just ignore him, skipper -_-
#922 [12:43] <anonimous> -_-
#923 [12:43] <Skipper2100> Alright fine
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#925 [12:44] <mr_trousers> I Cant paly minecraft because it says it can't find an acccelerated OpenGL mode. It also says it can be fixed by updating my video card drivers. does anyone know where i can do this?
#926 [12:44] <anonimous> I will if no one listens to me
#927 [12:44] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: lemme know when you've done that :)
#928 [12:44] <Skipper2100> Um, what?
#929 [12:44] <Skipper2100> I'm confused
#930 [12:44] <mr_trousers> By who?
#931 [12:44] <mr_trousers> Or what?
#932 [12:45] <clarjon1> Skipper2100:in the file manager menu, go: Tools -> Options, click on View tab, and uncheck the "Hide extensions for known file types" box, ten click OK
#933 [12:45] <mr_trousers> Not me i guess
#934 [12:45] <Skipper2100> What File Manager?
#935 [12:45] <clarjon1> Windows Explorer?
#936 [12:45] <Skipper2100> Yeah, there is no tools setting
#937 [12:45] <clarjon1> press Alt in the window
#938 [12:45] <Skipper2100> Ah, okay
#939 [12:46] <Skipper2100> I'm kinda new to Windows 7 :3
#940 [12:46] <mr_trousers> Please can any one help?
#941 [12:46] <Skipper2100> Alright there
#942 [12:47] <Skipper2100> Still nothing
#943 [12:47] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: now, click on minecraft.jar once, and press F2, and change the .jar to .zip
#944 [12:47] <clarjon1> then open in 7zip
#945 [12:47] <clarjon1> once you're done, rename it back to minecraft.jar
#946 [12:47] <Skipper2100> I did that last time. It's what killed it
#947 [12:47] <clarjon1> black screen?
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#949 [12:48] <Skipper2100> No, It turned it into a folder, wouldn't let me delete or rename, and wouldn't force update
#950 [12:48] <thypthon> Hallo?
#951 [12:48] <clarjon1> hmmm
#952 [12:48] <Skipper2100> Untill I restarted
#953 [12:48] <mr_trousers> Hello
#954 [12:48] <Skipper2100> But I'll try
#955 [12:48] <clarjon1> ooo
#956 [12:48] <thypthon> Dd Notch make a login tester or supporteR?
#957 [12:48] <thypthon> *supporter?
#958 [12:48] <thypthon> *did
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#960 [12:48] <Skipper2100> Ah, worked
#961 [12:48] <Skipper2100> I'll try at it
#962 [12:49] <clarjon1> best of luck :)
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#964 [12:49] <Skipper2100> Wait
#965 [12:49] <Isamu00> Scott are you around, we didn't finish last night
#966 [12:49] <thypthon> Did Notch make a webpage that gathered info about your computer to make the login better?
#967 [12:49] <anonimous> i need help
#968 [12:49] <Skipper2100> Uggh
#969 [12:49] <Skipper2100> Why do mac and Windows have to be so diffrent!
#970 [12:49] <Skipper2100> Okay, so, how to install Mod Loader?
#971 [12:50] <Skipper2100> Apparently it is nothing like Mac...
#972 [12:50] <Skipper2100> Cause how I do it, it doesin't work
#973 [12:50] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: Should be like, unzipping the mod files, drag and drop them into 7zip when you have the game file open in it, and then deleting META-INF
#974 [12:51] <Skipper2100> Uhh, could you elaborate?
#975 [12:51] <anonimous> I have a problem loading the game Minecraft charge me all that but i put the black screen, if anyone knows how to fix it is to lick me know via a message to this address: anonimoqaz_123@hotmail.com
#976 [12:51] <clarjon1> You'd get better support on the mod author's page
#977 [12:51] <anonimous> I have a problem loading the game Minecraft charge me all that but i put the black screen, if anyone knows how to fix it is to lick me know via a message to this address: anonimoqaz_123@hotmail.com
#978 [12:51] <anonimous> I have a problem loading the game Minecraft charge me all that but i put the black screen, if anyone knows how to fix it is to lick me know via a message to this address: anonimoqaz_123@hotmail.com
#979 [12:51] <anonimous> I have a problem loading the game Minecraft charge me all that but i put the black screen, if anyone knows how to fix it is to lick me know via a message to this address: anonimoqaz_123@hotmail.com
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#982 [12:51] <Skipper2100> So, I unzip the folder, open 7zip, then drag and drop them there?
#983 [12:51] <Curious> hmm
#984 [12:51] <anonimous> I have a problem loading the game Minecraft charge me all that but i put the black screen, if anyone knows how to fix it is to lick me know via a message to this address: anonimoqaz_123@hotmail.com
#985 [12:51] <anonimous> I have a problem loading the game Minecraft charge me all that but i put the black screen, if anyone knows how to fix it is to lick me know via a message to this address: anonimoqaz_123@hotmail.com7I have a problem loading the game Minecraft charge me all that but i put the black screen, if anyone knows how to fix it is to lick me know via a message to this a
#986 [12:51] <anonimous> I have a problem loading the game Minecraft charge me all that but i put the black screen, if anyone knows how to fix it is to lick me know via a message to this address: anonimoqaz_123@hotmail.com
#987 [12:51] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: You unzip the modloader one.
#988 [12:51] <Skipper2100> Dude
#989 [12:51] <Skipper2100> Really
#990 [12:51] <Skipper2100> Quit spamming
#991 [12:51] <thypthon> anonimous stop it!
#992 [12:52] <Skipper2100> Noones gonna help you if you spam
#993 [12:52] <clarjon1> then just open the minecraft.zip we did in 7zip -- do not extract/unzip it
#994 [12:52] <anonimous> -__-
#995 [12:52] <thypthon> Did Notch make a webpage that gathered info about your computer to make the login better?
#996 [12:52] <Skipper2100> Whaaat?
#997 [12:52] <Curious> Nope. haha.
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#999 [12:52] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: If you like, I could use teamviewer to show you how
#1000 [12:52] <clarjon1> ?? teamviewer
#1001 [12:52] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1002 [12:52] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1003 [12:52] <Skipper2100> Okay, shoot
#1004 [12:52] <mib_wf75vt> hello i am in need of help
#1005 [12:53] <mib_wf75vt> hello?
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#1007 [12:53] <anonimous> I have a problem loading the game Minecraft charge me all that but i put the black screen, if anyone knows how to fix it is to lick me know via a message to this address: anonimoqaz_123@hotmail.com
#1008 [12:53] <Skipper2100> Am I supposed to use the free version?
#1009 [12:53] <anonimous> o.o
#1010 [12:53] <clarjon1> mhm
#1011 [12:54] <mib_wf75vt> does anyone know how to portfoward because everytime i turn my server on it says "failed to bind to port"
#1012 [12:54] <sproing> my mine craft wont run. what can i do to fix it
#1013 [12:54] <clarjon1> mib_wf75vt: first off, that means that there's something else using that port on your computer, try changing the port int he server config.
#1014 [12:54] <Skipper2100> Now what?
#1015 [12:54] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: Private message me your ID and Pass once you have it
#1016 [12:54] <Skipper2100> Why...
#1017 [12:54] <mib_wf75vt> change it to what
#1018 [12:54] <anonimous> [ò.ó]
#1019 [12:55] <anonimous> I have a problem loading the game Minecraft charge me all that but i put the black screen, if anyone knows how to fix it is to lick me know via a message to this address: anonimoqaz_123@hotmail.com
#1020 [12:55] <Skipper2100> Don't you just need the ID?
#1021 [12:55] <clarjon1> The ID is just that, an ID
#1022 [12:55] <Skipper2100> I know
#1023 [12:55] <clarjon1> the passcode ( default 4 digits ) will authenticate me so i can get on
#1024 [12:55] <Skipper2100> Oh, wait
#1025 [12:55] <Skipper2100> Get it
#1026 [12:55] <anonimous> is anyone going to help me or what?
#1027 [12:56] <mib_wf75vt> ok i put it as blank now what
#1028 [12:56] <clarjon1> mib_wf75vt: it needs to be something other than 25565, try 25560
#1029 [12:56] <Skipper2100> PM fail...
#1030 [12:56] <sluggo> I keep getting a java runscript error. i copy and pasted it on http://pastebin.com/Aapx954u plese can you help me
#1031 [12:56] <mib_wf75vt> ok
#1032 [12:56] <clarjon1> Skipper2100: just do /msg clarjon1 teamviewerid password
#1033 [12:56] <mib_wf75vt> as the ip or the port
#1034 [12:56] <clarjon1> mib_wf75vt: the port.
#1035 [12:56] <mib_wf75vt> ok
#1036 [12:56] <mib_wf75vt> brb
#1037 [12:57] <clarjon1> got it :)
#1038 [12:57] <Skipper2100> ...
#1039 [12:57] <clarjon1> it says that code is wrong
#1040 [12:57] <Skipper2100> Yup
#1041 [12:57] <Skipper2100> I know
#1042 [12:58] <mib_wf75vt> it wont connect
#1043 [12:58] <mib_wf75vt> it says can't reach server
#1044 [12:58] <mib_wf75vt> the "failed to bind to port" is gone though
#1045 [12:58] <anonimous> I have a problem loading the game Minecraft charge me all that but i put the black screen, if anyone knows how to fix it is to lick me know via a message to this address: anonimoqaz_123@hotmail.com
#1046 [12:58] <anonimous> help my fuck
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#1049 [12:59] <mib_wf75vt> does anyone know what i should do?
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#1051 [12:59] <sluggo> I keep getting a java runscript error. i copy and pasted it on http://pastebin.com/Aapx954u plese can you help me
#1052 [13:00] <mib_wf75vt> anyone there?
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#1054 [13:00] <anonimous> I do not believe that expelling left alone
#1055 [13:01] <sluggo> I keep getting a java runscript error. i copy and pasted it on http://pastebin.com/Aapx954u please can you help me
#1056 [13:01] <morton> helllo
#1057 [13:01] <morton> i have problem
#1058 [13:01] <morton> no one can connect to my server
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#1060 [13:01] <anonimous> -__
#1061 [13:01] <anonimous> -_-
#1062 [13:02] <anonimous> ._.-.-
#1063 [13:02] <morton> anyone know how to portfoward so i can connect my server
#1064 [13:02] <morton> so people can join
#1065 [13:02] <Keltinray> How to forward ports generally depends on what router you have
#1066 [13:03] <anonimous> I do not believe that expelling left aloneI do not believe that expelling left aloneI do not believe that expelling left aloneI do not believe that expelling left aloneI do not believe that expelling left alone
#1067 [13:03] <anonimous> I do not believe that expelling left aloneI do not believe that expelling left aloneI do not believe that expelling left aloneI do not believe that expelling left aloneI do not believe that expelling left alone
#1068 [13:03] <anonimous> I do not believe that expelling left alone
#1069 [13:03] <sluggo> I keep getting a java runscript error. i copy and pasted it on http://pastebin.com/Aapx954u please can you help me
#1070 [13:03] <Keltinray> anonimous must hate being here
#1071 [13:03] <morton> HELP ME
#1072 [13:03] <morton> PLEASE
#1073 [13:03] <sluggo> IS ANYWON HERE
#1074 [13:04] <anonimous> HELP MY
#1075 [13:04] <Tanjoodo> Ask already
#1076 [13:04] <Keltinray> morton, <Keltinray> How to forward ports generally depends on what router you have
#1077 [13:04] <anonimous> NO
#1078 [13:04] <morton> i have a asus rt n-12 does that help?
#1079 [13:04] <anonimous> AL CONTRARIO
#1080 [13:04] <anonimous> HOS VOY A JODER VIVOS
#1081 [13:04] <anonimous> N1TMM
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#1083 [13:04] <anonimous> LOLZ
#1084 [13:05] <anonimous> PUTAMADRE
#1085 [13:05] <anonimous> REMEMBER THIS
#1086 [13:05] <anonimous> ITS A PRECAUCION
#1087 [13:05] <anonimous> ITS A PRECAUCION
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#1089 [13:05] <morton> Kelitnray can u help me
#1090 [13:05] <morton> *keltinray
#1091 [13:06] <morton> :(
#1092 [13:06] <morton> :'(
#1093 [13:07] <Tanjoodo> morton: I'll grab you a link that might help you
#1094 [13:08] <Tanjoodo> I want to check if it's the right link first, and my internet is very slow today so bear with me.
#1095 [13:10] <morton> ok
#1096 [13:11] <Tanjoodo> morton: http://portforward.com/
#1097 [13:11] <Tanjoodo> Look up your router model.
#1098 [13:11] <Tanjoodo> Skip advertisement if needed.
#1099 [13:12] <morton> im trying it now i'll tell you what happens
#1100 [13:12] <morton> wish me luck haha
#1101 [13:12] <Tanjoodo> Good luck :)
#1102 [13:17] <clarjon1> :)
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#1107 [13:28] <sprocket> I keep getting a java runscript error. i copy and pasted it on http://pastebin.com/Aapx954u please can you help me
#1108 [13:30] <morton> are you still there tanjoodo
#1109 [13:30] <Tanjoodo> Yes, morton.
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#1111 [13:30] <morton> ok so i followed all the steps and portfowarded it so people should be able to connect through my external ip right
#1112 [13:31] <Tanjoodo> Cool.
#1113 [13:31] <morton> wanna test it to maek sure it works from a computer other than my own
#1114 [13:31] <morton> haha
#1115 [13:32] <clarjon1> lol
#1116 [13:32] <clarjon1> morton: what's the ip
#1117 [13:32] <TheNytangel> Tanjoodo, if needed? I think there's always an ad...
#1118 [13:32] <TheNytangel> ;ip morton
#1119 [13:32] <WugBot> IP address of morton is: 67.87.225.177
#1120 [13:32] <clarjon1> ;check 67.87.225.177
#1121 [13:32] <WugBot> 67.87.225.177:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: This server is dope (0/50)
#1122 [13:32] <clarjon1> morton: Yup, you're good
#1123 [13:32] <morton> ok thanks guys
#1124 [13:32] <morton> i g2g
#1125 [13:32] <Tanjoodo> Bye!
#1126 [13:32] <TheNytangel> !check 67.87.225.177
#1127 [13:33] <clarjon1> haha
#1128 [13:33] <morton> i have to turn the server off dental apointment ill turn it on l8tr if anyone want to use
#1129 [13:33] <TheNytangel> morton, wait
#1130 [13:33] <morton> ?
#1131 [13:33] <morton> i really g2g
#1132 [13:33] <morton> bye
#1133 [13:33] <TheNytangel> morton, got to http://canihostaminecraftserver.com
#1134 [13:33] <TheNytangel> Then you can see how many players you can host
#1135 [13:34] <TheNytangel> And I'm almost possitive it isn't 50 *cough*
#1136 [13:34] <sprocket> keep getting a java runscript error. i copy and pasted it on http://pastebin.com/Aapx954u please can you help me
#1137 [13:34] <Tanjoodo> Lol.
#1138 [13:35] <Tanjoodo> I don't know logs.
#1139 [13:35] <Tanjoodo> Sorry.
#1140 [13:36] <TheNytangel> ??> sprocket error/javacrash
#1141 [13:36] <VoxelHead> sprocket: (error/javacrash) A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment
#1142 [13:36] <VoxelHead> sprocket: (error/javacrash) This error happens when something causes java to become unstable. The usual culprit is lwjgl (and therefore video drivers), however, it can be caused by a broken JVM. Reinstall your video card drivers, and if that fails, run javara and then reinstall java.
#1143 [13:36] <sprocket> is anybody there?
#1144 [13:36] <TheNytangel> Tanjoodo, you're helping him from here on out :P
#1145 [13:36] <sprocket> i have reinstalled java loads of times before
#1146 [13:37] <Tanjoodo> TheNytangel: I'll try my best
#1147 [13:37] <TheNytangel> sprocket, but haven't updated video drivers...
#1148 [13:37] <Tanjoodo> ^
#1149 [13:37] <sprocket> how do i do that
#1150 [13:37] <Tanjoodo> TheNytangel: STOP OUT-TYPING ME!
#1151 [13:37] <TheNytangel> Lol
#1152 [13:37] <TheNytangel> ??> sprocket os
#1153 [13:37] <VoxelHead> sprocket: (os) Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
#1154 [13:38] <TheNytangel> Pick what you have
#1155 [13:38] <TheNytangel> And tell us
#1156 [13:38] <sprocket> windows vista
#1157 [13:38] <TheNytangel> ??> sprocket win/dxdiag
#1158 [13:38] <VoxelHead> sprocket: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1159 [13:38] <VoxelHead> sprocket: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1160 [13:38] <sprocket> ok
#1161 [13:38] <TheNytangel> Tanjoodo, you're finding the driver though
#1162 [13:38] <Tanjoodo> Okay.
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#1165 [13:42] <Tanjoodo> Windows 7 updates my graphics driver automatically, doesn't Vista do the same?
#1166 [13:42] <Tanjoodo> Windows 7 updates my graphics driver automatically, doesn't Vista do the same?
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#1168 [13:43] <Scott> Those are generic drivers.
#1169 [13:43] <Scott> You should get your drivers directly from the GPU manufacturer.
#1170 [13:44] <Tanjoodo> Scott: It linked me to NVidia's website
#1171 [13:44] <Tanjoodo> To my card's page.
#1172 [13:44] <Scott> I guess that's good then.
#1173 [13:44] <Tanjoodo> Yep.
#1174 [13:44] <Scott> My drivers are provided via Apple :D
#1175 [13:44] <Tanjoodo> :D
#1176 [13:45] <sprocket> i posted on #icr channel
#1177 [13:46] <Tanjoodo> Post here too.
#1178 [13:47] <sprocket> voxelhead???
#1179 [13:47] <Tanjoodo> VoxelHead is a bot.
#1180 [13:47] <sprocket> oh
#1181 [13:47] <Tanjoodo> Post it here
#1182 [13:47] <sprocket> oh
#1183 [13:47] <sprocket> ok http://pastebin.com/x0QMS8Vk
#1184 [13:49] <Tanjoodo> Now please wait while I find the appropriate driver.
#1185 [13:49] <sprocket> ok. thank you so much been trying to fix for ages lol
#1186 [13:50] <Tanjoodo> It seems this is going to take a while, my internet is bad.
#1187 [13:50] <sprocket> no problem
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#1189 [13:52] <SteveTheCat> hey
#1190 [13:52] <Tanjoodo> Sup?
#1191 [13:52] <SteveTheCat> so
#1192 [13:52] <SteveTheCat> how do I install mod loader
#1193 [13:52] <TheNytangel> ??> SteveTheCat mods
#1194 [13:52] <VoxelHead> SteveTheCat: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1195 [13:52] <SteveTheCat> I need a non-youtube guide for it
#1196 [13:52] <VoxelHead> SteveTheCat: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1198 [13:54] <aljorub> hi why dosnt minecraft have a digital signuture
#1199 [13:54] <aljorub> does that mean its not safe
#1200 [13:54] <Tanjoodo> aljorub: No.
#1201 [13:54] <Tanjoodo> As long as you downloaded it from www.minecraft.net it should be fine.
#1202 [13:55] <aljorub> i did but when i run it says it has not got a digital signuture
#1203 [13:55] <clarjon1> the exe?
#1204 [13:55] <Tanjoodo> sprocket: It seems my internet is so bad, I can't open the Asus website. Go there and try to find the driver for "ASUS AH4650 Series"
#1205 [13:56] <aljorub> yes
#1206 [13:56] <Tanjoodo> aljorub: It's OK.
#1207 [13:56] <clarjon1> aljorub: Because they haven't shelled out the Big Bucks to microsoft to get that signature?
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#1209 [13:56] <sprocket> ok
#1210 [13:56] <aljorub> thanx
#1211 [13:56] <Tanjoodo> Again, as long as it's downloaded from www.minecraft.net
#1212 [13:56] <clarjon1> aljorub: And, considering that it's just a quick little exe to launch the jar file it contains :)
#1213 [13:56] <aljorub> i understand now thankyou
#1214 [13:57] <TheNytangel> !client
#1215 [13:57] <Yellowchopsticks> i have a question about mobs interrupting bed sleep
#1216 [13:57] <clarjon1> ??> Yellowchopsticks ask
#1217 [13:57] <VoxelHead> Yellowchopsticks: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
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#1219 [13:57] <VoxelHead> Yellowchopsticks: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1220 [13:57] <Yellowchopsticks> like, i know if you put your bed in the corner of your house, mobs can attack/interrupt your sleep, right?
#1221 [13:57] <TheNytangel> Yellowchopsticks, just experiment or read the wiki...
#1222 [13:57] <clarjon1> depends on the thickness of the walls, IIRC
#1223 [13:58] <Yellowchopsticks> if i build a mob farm with a 1 block thick roof, and put my bed on top of my mob farm, can i be interrupted like that?
#1224 [13:58] <Yellowchopsticks> i understand the warning along the x and z plane, im just wondering about the y-axis
#1225 [13:58] <aljorub> when is 1.9 out
#1226 [13:58] <clarjon1> Yellowchopsticks: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/images/8/89/Bed_Template.png <== how to safely place a bed :)
#1227 [13:59] <clarjon1> Two block radius
#1228 [13:59] <Yellowchopsticks> yeah clarjon1, that only talks about x and z axis :P
#1229 [13:59] <Yellowchopsticks> im talking about y axis
#1230 [13:59] <clarjon1> Yellowchopsticks: Two block radius....
#1231 [13:59] <sprocket> found a driver. installing now
#1232 [13:59] <clarjon1> if it's Roof, air, bed
#1233 [13:59] <clarjon1> you'll be safe
#1234 [13:59] <clarjon1> if it's roof air air bed
#1235 [13:59] <clarjon1> safe still
#1236 [13:59] <Tanjoodo> aljorub: I don't know, but I know that the first stable version is going to be released on the 18th of this November.
#1237 [14:00] <Yellowchopsticks> but roof bed is bad?
#1238 [14:00] <clarjon1> Well
#1239 [14:00] <clarjon1> one, i'd LOVE to see you sleep in that
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#1241 [14:00] <clarjon1> two, you'd get stuck in the roof when you awake xD
#1242 [14:00] <clarjon1> Yellowchopsticks: If you can stand on top of the bed, you should have no troubles at all
#1243 [14:01] <aljorub> thankyou and will i get it for free
#1244 [14:01] <TheNytangel> Yellowchopsticks, just make sure you have a two block floor, no one knows what he's talking about ;)
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#1246 [14:01] <Tanjoodo> aljorub: If you have purchased the Beta, I think you'll get the stable version as a free update.
#1247 [14:02] <TheNytangel> You WILL get it for free
#1248 [14:02] <Yellowchopsticks> ok, well, im glad i thought of the question and came in here and checked :P
#1249 [14:02] <sprocket> i installed a driver. now what?
#1250 [14:02] <Yellowchopsticks> cause i really was just going to build a mob farm with the spawning area right underneath my bedroom
#1251 [14:02] <Yellowchopsticks> which will be bad XD
#1252 [14:02] <TheNytangel> aljorub, it's in Minecraft's um.. TOS or something
#1253 [14:03] <Tanjoodo> sprocket: try the game.
#1254 [14:03] <TheNytangel> Purchases during the development of the game are discounted and include the full game upon release.
#1255 [14:03] <sprocket> ok
#1256 [14:04] <sprocket> still not working
#1257 [14:04] <sprocket> still not working
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#1259 [14:05] <Tanjoodo> sprocket: Are you sure you installed the right driver?
#1260 [14:05] <sprocket> i think so
#1261 [14:06] <Tanjoodo> Do you have a x32 or a x64 system?
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#1263 [14:06] <sprocket> x 32 system
#1264 [14:06] <Tanjoodo> Ah.
#1265 [14:07] <Doblez> Where do i get a session key for my minecraft?
#1266 [14:08] <Tanjoodo> sprocket: What is your computer's model?
#1267 [14:08] <sprocket> oh
#1268 [14:08] <sprocket> it says my drivers out of date
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#1270 [14:08] <Tanjoodo> Update them!
#1271 [14:09] <sprocket> ok
#1272 [14:09] <Doblez> Are there any supporters online?
#1273 [14:09] <Doblez> Wug are you there?
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#1276 [14:11] <Doblez> How do i get a session key for minecraft?
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#1282 [14:20] <Doblez> Are there anyone here to help? Wug, Geryvulpine?
#1283 [14:20] <Doblez> greyvulpine ?
#1284 [14:22] <peru> what do you need that session key for?
#1285 [14:24] <Doblez> For my account, i cant use the launcher and i need for the multiplayer...
#1286 [14:24] <Doblez> I just need the link
#1287 [14:24] <Doblez> :)
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#1290 [14:26] <Doblez> Where do i get a session key for minecraft? I just need a link
#1291 [14:26] <Doblez> ?
#1292 [14:26] <Jorre> Hello again!
#1293 [14:26] <Doblez> Wug? Greyvulpine? Anyone?
#1294 [14:26] <takingday> hello I have a problem I tried to run for the first time and it say,s I have bad video card drivers and that it failed to find an accelerated opengl mode and that I may need to update them but I don,t where or exactly how to do so
#1295 [14:26] <Jorre> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to make the water in my pool to stop flowing in a certain direction?
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#1297 [14:27] <Tanjoodo> takingday: Install video drivers
#1298 [14:27] <Tanjoodo> Jorre: Get a bucket of water and pour it in the end where the water is flowing
#1299 [14:27] <takingday> where man where ?!?
#1300 [14:28] <peru> Tanjoodo: he said he doesnt know how to do so
#1301 [14:28] <Tanjoodo> Okay.
#1302 [14:28] <Doblez> Jorre use signs :) They block the water flow
#1303 [14:28] <Tanjoodo> ??> takingday win/dxdiag
#1304 [14:28] <VoxelHead> takingday: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1305 [14:28] <VoxelHead> takingday: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1306 [14:29] <Doblez> Tanjoodo? Do you know how to get a session key?
#1307 [14:29] <Tanjoodo> Doblez: Did you try Google?
#1308 [14:29] <Doblez> Yes, and i couldt find it....
#1309 [14:29] <Jorre> I can't place water at the end of the stream because it end streaming in the middle of the pool :P
#1310 [14:29] <Doblez> Wug knows the answer...
#1311 [14:29] <Doblez> That you cant change
#1312 [14:29] <Doblez> its part of the game physics
#1313 [14:30] <Tanjoodo> Doblez: I'm sorry, I can't help with such issues.
#1314 [14:31] <IceGuest_77> Hello. For some time we, some guys, haven't had time to play on our server. The server is therefore an old version (pre 1,8,0/1,8,2), and when I did start it up today and wanted to place a torch my minecraft just shows the dirt background, and crach. When I log in again, the torch is there. Any suggestions?
#1315 [14:31] <Gramsvaerd> Sorry about my former nick. I where called IceGeuest_77
#1316 [14:31] <Tanjoodo> Gramsvaerd: I think you should update your server and client to the latest versions.
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#1318 [14:35] <SimenOlai> why doesnt my minecraft work on OS X 10.5.8 ?
#1319 [14:35] <Gramsvaerd> The server is the newest, version and so is the game, but I have Better than wolwes installed. I have tried to set up a new server and place a torch, then there aren't any problems.
#1320 [14:36] <SimenOlai> anyone
#1321 [14:39] <Gramsvaerd> When I said that the server where a old version, I ment that the saved game where from before version 1.8.0
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#1323 [14:42] <Scott> SimenOlai: Mojang didn't test it on Mac OS X 10.5.8 and they changed something that broke it.
#1324 [14:42] <Scott> It will be fixed when 1.9 is released but there is a temporary fix you can try.
#1325 [14:42] <Guest> i need to know if it's allowed to buy a gift code on another side, because they do have better payment systems then the official store of minecraft
#1326 [14:42] <Scott> ?? mac/10.5.8
#1327 [14:42] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Getsatisfaction bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/minecraft_1_8_on_mac_os_x_10_5_8
#1328 [14:42] <VoxelHead> mac/10.5.8: Bug Fix link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/644089-181-opengl-13-fix/ -- Installation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcTKryuhgiI
#1329 [14:43] <Scott> Guest: There is a high chance you will be scammed. It is only advisable you buy it from minecraft.net.
#1330 [14:43] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1331 [14:44] <SimenOlai> whats so bad buying from minecraft.net
#1332 [14:44] <Guest> but it is allowed? it's a popular side with nice critics
#1333 [14:45] <takingday> http://pastebin.com/TLBZfSCz
#1334 [14:46] <SimenOlai> you can never be sure if its fake or not
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#1336 [14:46] <Scott> There is only 1 site that is authorized to sell Minecraft gift codes and it is for educational institutions.
#1337 [14:46] <Scott> People come in here all the time after buying a gift code from other sites...
#1338 [14:46] <SimenOlai> wait a minute
#1339 [14:46] <SimenOlai> there is only 1 more week with 14.95 right?
#1340 [14:46] <Scott> They will have a premium account for a few months and then it gets changed back to non-premium because the person they bought the gift code from bought it from mojang using a stolen credit card.
#1341 [14:47] <SimenOlai> then it goes to 20
#1342 [14:47] <Scott> I think so
#1343 [14:47] * SimenOlai buys millions of giftcodes to save money
#1343 [14:47] <SimenOlai> lol
#1344 [14:47] <takingday> voxhead did you see it ?
#1345 [14:48] <Guest> it's just because i don't have online-banking and i absolutely miss a simple transfer option
#1346 [14:48] <Scott> takingday: hold on
#1347 [14:48] <SimenOlai> lol takingday
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#1349 [14:48] <SimenOlai> ?? bot
#1350 [14:48] <takingday> ok :)
#1351 [14:48] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#1352 [14:48] <SimenOlai> lol
#1353 [14:49] <zarni> It seems that the payment via EC-Card isn't working, anybody know if this will be fixed?
#1354 [14:49] <SimenOlai> ec card??
#1355 [14:49] <zarni> i mean direct debit
#1356 [14:49] <Gramsvaerd> Anyone who have a solution to my problem with a servercash when i place a thorch in an old saved game on a server. Serverprogram and client is up to date, but game saved game where created in a server before 1.8.2, maybe 1.4.0. Anyone?
#1357 [14:50] <Scott> takingday: download and install this: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/16835/a08/winxp_14324.exe
#1358 [14:52] <takingday> thank you for your help voxhead :) I,m gonna try it and see
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#1360 [14:52] <Doblez> Wug? Greyvulpine? Voxelhead? :D
#1361 [14:53] <takingday> and scott too :)
#1362 [14:53] <Scott> VoxelHead is a bot, by the way lol
#1363 [14:53] <Doblez> I know ;D
#1364 [14:54] <Doblez> Scott how do i get a session key for my minecraft account? (My launcher isnt working) Wug gave me an adreass and told me to get on it and kind of login?
#1365 [14:54] <takingday> oh well I feel a little stupid :)
#1366 [14:54] <Doblez> I need because im runnning minecraft via batch file, so to play online i need the session key :D
#1367 [14:54] <Doblez> I need because im runnning minecraft via batch file, so to play online i need the session key :D
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#1369 [14:55] <Gramsvaerd> I'm running a windows 7 64 bit, and did work fine before mincraft version 1.8.0
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#1371 [14:56] <aljorub> hi ia m playing minecraft for the first time and it is laggy
#1372 [14:57] <Doblez> Thats because that there isnt enough memory (RAM) allocated to minecraft
#1373 [14:57] <Doblez> :)
#1374 [14:57] <Doblez> ?? win/allocate
#1375 [14:58] <Doblez> ?? win/index
#1376 [14:58] <aljorub> how much ram do i need
#1377 [14:58] <Doblez> run diax
#1378 [14:58] <Doblez> ?? aljorup win/dxdiag
#1379 [14:59] <Doblez> ?? win/dxdiag
#1380 [14:59] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1381 [14:59] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1382 [14:59] <Gramsvaerd> What can I do so that I'll be able to play on my server again?
#1383 [14:59] <aljorub> ok
#1384 [15:00] <Doblez> backup the map, and then regenerate a new map
#1385 [15:00] <Doblez> :)
#1386 [15:00] <Gramsvaerd> Is there a way to get all what we have build into a new map?
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#1388 [15:01] <Doblez> Not that i know of. But can your friend join?
#1389 [15:01] <mib_onpbkb> hey
#1390 [15:01] <mib_onpbkb> i have a question?
#1391 [15:02] <Doblez> Yes? :D
#1392 [15:02] <Gramsvaerd> Other people can join. But when i place a torch I'll just cash
#1393 [15:02] <mib_onpbkb> When i log in to multiplayer sever... like 1 minute into the game... the screen just vanish
#1394 [15:03] <aljorub> http://pastebin.com/ib5m2ZBr
#1395 [15:03] <Doblez> Gramsvaerd: Forceupdate minecraft
#1396 [15:03] <mib_onpbkb> did that i tryed sooo many thing
#1397 [15:04] <aljorub> is that ok
#1398 [15:04] <mib_onpbkb> no
#1399 [15:04] <Gramsvaerd> I'll try.
#1400 [15:04] <Doblez> Minecraft requires loads of ram to run properly, but yes 2gb should be fine
#1401 [15:05] <Doblez> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/50149-axes-thread-tutorials-and-stuff-hey0-and-halfmonty/#p863749
#1402 [15:05] <Doblez> part 4 Aljorub
#1403 [15:05] <Doblez> what OS is you running?
#1404 [15:06] <mib_onpbkb> what should the ram be i have 1500mb ram that good enough?
#1405 [15:06] <aljorub> how do i stop it being laggy
#1406 [15:06] <mib_onpbkb> is 1500mb good eoungh
#1407 [15:06] <mib_onpbkb> whats OS?
#1408 [15:06] <aljorub> windows
#1409 [15:07] <Doblez> mib_onpbkb now im helping aljorup
#1410 [15:07] <Doblez> aljorub, i mean windows 7/Xp/vista?
#1411 [15:07] <mib_onpbkb> can u help me!
#1412 [15:07] <aljorub> windows 7
#1413 [15:07] <Doblez> and 32-bit or 64-bit
#1414 [15:07] <aljorub> 32 bit
#1415 [15:07] <Doblez> Yes in a minute ill try
#1416 [15:07] <mib_onpbkb> i been trying to fix this for like a month now!
#1417 [15:07] <Doblez> k then you should use 1024 as the number
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#1419 [15:08] <aljorub> how do i set the number
#1420 [15:09] <mib_onpbkb> can u help me please?
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#1422 [15:17] <Gramsvaerd> It seems that it didn't like better than wolwes...
#1423 [15:17] <Gramsvaerd> Thaks.
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#1428 [15:25] <maksqwe1> hello?
#1429 [15:25] <maksqwe1> hello?
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#1432 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> maksqwe1 dont/pm
#1433 [15:26] <VoxelHead> maksqwe1: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1434 [15:26] <DopeGhoti> ??>> maksqwe1 dont/pm
#1435 [15:26] <shaman> hey
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#1437 [15:27] <shaman> Im trying to install a mod onto minecraft and i know how all that but its not letting my modify the Minecraft.jar it says its already open in another program when its not
#1438 [15:28] <SimenOlai> have you minecraft opened?
#1439 [15:28] <shaman> no
#1440 [15:28] <SimenOlai> ok. try log off (log off NOT RESTART) then login
#1441 [15:28] <SimenOlai> then try again
#1442 [15:28] <shaman> k sefc
#1443 [15:28] <shaman> sec*
#1444 [15:29] <SimenOlai> save all important info
#1445 [15:29] <SimenOlai> :P
#1446 [15:29] <shaman> mmm no
#1447 [15:30] <shaman> i cant even deleta the .minecraft folder
#1448 [15:33] <SimenOlai> re log first
#1449 [15:33] <SimenOlai> log off
#1450 [15:33] <SimenOlai> computer, not minecraft
#1451 [15:33] <SimenOlai> :P
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#1453 [15:33] <shaman> mmk.... ill be back and let u know if it works lol
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#1456 [15:38] <diablo> hi Logging in doesn'T work ?
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#1459 [15:48] <SFFCRAFT> http://mibpaste.com/sgUDpb
#1460 [15:51] <SimenOlai> wut da
#1461 [15:51] <clarjon1> Now that's what i call automated support.
#1462 [15:51] <SimenOlai> yeah
#1463 [15:51] <SimenOlai> fast too
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#1465 [15:51] <SimenOlai> lol
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#1467 [15:53] <trizerz> hi
#1468 [15:53] <SimenOlai> hi
#1469 [15:53] <SimenOlai> nice ip you got there
#1470 [15:54] <trizerz> ?
#1471 [15:55] <trizerz> I'm having troubles in buying the game...
#1472 [15:56] <Dex00r> I've got a problem related to my mail adress. Is there anyway to change it when I can proof that I am the real account holder ?
#1473 [15:56] <trizerz> keep getting the "Credit/debit card deposits disabled You can not use your credit/debit card for the next 24 hours. This restriction cannot be lifted manually by you or our service team. Please return to the website of the Merchant where you will receive further instructions." issue
#1474 [15:56] <trizerz> tried wtih 3 cards
#1475 [15:56] <trizerz> and paypal
#1476 [15:57] <SimenOlai> try add money to paypal, then pay via paypal :P
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#1478 [15:57] <trizerz> hmm
#1479 [15:57] <trizerz> ok
#1480 [15:58] <sprog> I would like to know how to install the free minecraft for my windows laptop
#1481 [15:58] <Calinou> ._. you mean classic?
#1482 [15:58] <SimenOlai> no
#1483 [15:58] <SimenOlai> you mean demo?
#1484 [15:58] <Calinou> or #!?$! beta?
#1485 [15:58] <SimenOlai> you scared him
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#1487 [15:59] <trizerz> crap
#1488 [15:59] <Calinou> :>
#1489 [15:59] <trizerz> it takes 3-5 businessdays to add money to paypal
#1490 [15:59] <SimenOlai> no
#1491 [15:59] <SimenOlai> only with bank transfer
#1492 [15:59] <SimenOlai> took 2 days for me :P
#1493 [15:59] <trizerz> i am linked with ym credit card...
#1494 [15:59] <G-D5> so I have a question about the new Mincecraft 1.9 update - its a "pre release" so is it supposed to be available to all beta players?
#1495 [16:00] <diablo> i cant log in....
#1496 [16:00] <trizerz> how else can i add money to paypal account apart from bank transfer
#1497 [16:00] <SimenOlai> yes G-D5
#1498 [16:00] <G-D5> pretty much only a bank transfer
#1499 [16:01] <G-D5> ok so how do I update from my Beta 1.8.1 version?
#1500 [16:01] <SimenOlai> we cant support that :)
#1501 [16:01] <SimenOlai> kinda, idk
#1502 [16:01] <Dex00r> No one got an Idea on how I can change my account email ? D.
#1503 [16:01] <SimenOlai> you cant, i believe
#1504 [16:02] <SimenOlai> ill check
#1505 [16:02] <trizerz> so i can't really buy minecraft then without going through all this trouble =S
#1506 [16:02] <trizerz> disappointing
#1507 [16:02] <G-D5> cuz I have been trying to force update with the built in force updater but it still states its 1.8.1
#1508 [16:02] <SimenOlai> ....
#1509 [16:02] <SimenOlai> its a pre- release
#1510 [16:03] <SimenOlai> if you force update, and 1.9 would be there, it wouldnt be a PRE -release
#1511 [16:03] <Dex00r> Well you can't do It under the profile options, problem is that I used a wrong email back then but I can proof that I am the account holder, problem is that Minecraft has no official support team :P
#1512 [16:03] <G-D5> ok thats what I thought
#1513 [16:03] <SimenOlai> you go to forums
#1514 [16:03] <G-D5> yeah i did and they gave me the option of getting the 1.9
#1515 [16:04] <G-D5> ok thank you!
#1516 [16:04] <SimenOlai> thats no possible
#1517 [16:04] <SimenOlai> 1.9 isnt released
#1518 [16:04] <SimenOlai> .say test
#1519 [16:04] <SimenOlai> ops,
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#1521 [16:06] <mib_7aaby0> hey .
#1522 [16:06] <mib_7aaby0> i have a problem
#1523 [16:07] <Opeth> :\\\\\\\\\
#1524 [16:08] <Opeth> Wrong channel hehe.
#1525 [16:09] <rymate1234> meh
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#1528 [16:18] <SimenOlai> ol
#1529 [16:18] <SimenOlai> lol
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#1531 [16:20] <davisbacon> is there a log file or any way I can get minecraft to log some extra data when it fires up (on mac os x)
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#1533 [16:20] <SimenOlai> log extra data?
#1534 [16:20] <SimenOlai> like which data
#1535 [16:20] <davisbacon> like simple errors I might be able to troubleshoot
#1536 [16:21] <davisbacon> for example right now it is crashing (due to an unsupported mod)
#1537 [16:21] <davisbacon> and there is some information that flashes on a console looking screen right before it disappears
#1538 [16:21] <davisbacon> I can't capture that information
#1539 [16:22] <davisbacon> I can easily remove the mod and everything is hunky-dory I'm just trying to figure out if I can troubleshoot it
#1540 [16:23] <SimenOlai> i cant get you a .bat
#1541 [16:23] <davisbacon> (p.s. sorry to bug you and any info is greatly appreciated. Also, no answer reqd -- I know I'm off the reservation on this)
#1542 [16:23] <davisbacon> okay is that only for windows?
#1543 [16:23] <SimenOlai> just look inside it if you dont trust me :P
#1544 [16:23] <davisbacon> orokay
#1545 [16:23] <SimenOlai> idk, maybe
#1546 [16:23] <davisbacon> I'd love to have the .bat
#1547 [16:23] <SimenOlai> are you on windows
#1548 [16:23] <SimenOlai> :P
#1549 [16:23] <davisbacon> at least I can look at it
#1550 [16:23] <davisbacon> nah
#1551 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> davisbacon - Look at where you have the launcher, it should generate hs_err_pid error logs when it crashes like that
#1552 [16:23] <davisbacon> maybe that's part of the problem ;)
#1553 [16:23] <davisbacon> okay
#1554 [16:23] <davisbacon> thank you
#1555 [16:23] <SimenOlai> hi GreyVulpine
#1556 [16:23] * GreyVulpine waves
#1556 [16:24] * SimenOlai waves back
#1556 [16:24] * SimenOlai waves more to get attention
#1556 [16:25] <davisbacon> I'm also kind of an irc noob but if you want to send me the .bat I think I can handle it ;)
#1557 [16:25] <Wug> >:(
#1558 [16:25] <SimenOlai> since you no windows, me no think it will work
#1559 [16:25] <SimenOlai> whos that
#1560 [16:25] * GreyVulpine blinks?
#1560 [16:25] * SimenOlai walks away raging
#1560 [16:25] <davisbacon> yes it won't work but maybe I can translate the uh, the filenames from %BLAH_WINDOWS_LAND% into mac equivalents
#1561 [16:25] <Wug> sent me a massive pile of pm spam
#1562 [16:26] <davisbacon> it might be a template for me to write an os x equivalent
#1563 [16:26] <davisbacon> or not
#1564 [16:26] <SimenOlai> wow
#1565 [16:26] <Wug> its probably better to just ignore him
#1566 [16:26] <Wug> oh well vox will remove it later
#1567 [16:26] <SimenOlai> yeah
#1568 [16:26] <SimenOlai> what was his name?
#1569 [16:26] <Wug> ruben174
#1570 [16:27] <SimenOlai> he
#1571 [16:27] <SimenOlai> he no on espernet :O
#1572 [16:27] <SimenOlai> maybe he left, he got scared :P
#1573 [16:28] <Wug> hopefully he got network permabanned
#1574 [16:29] <SimenOlai> yeah
#1575 [16:29] <SimenOlai> maybe he got isp blocked >:D
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#1577 [16:30] <Wug> GreyVulpine: if doblez comes back
#1578 [16:30] <Wug> I'm not sure why this happens but he can't use the launcher
#1579 [16:30] <SimenOlai> who is doblez?
#1580 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1581 [16:30] <Wug> so I got him a static session key and configured him a batch file that launches minecraft directly
#1582 [16:31] <Wug> so have him get another one and change the bat
#1583 [16:31] <Wug> it only needs the number (the one thats not the timestamp)
#1584 [16:31] * GreyVulpine nods
#1584 [16:32] <Wug> I hope ruben174 comes back >:Z
#1585 [16:32] <rymate1234> guys
#1586 [16:32] <SimenOlai> what?
#1587 [16:32] <rymate1234> I'm having a problem with the foss drivers in fedora 16
#1588 [16:33] <rymate1234> minecraft runns
#1589 [16:33] <rymate1234> but its like watching a slideshow
#1590 [16:33] <rymate1234> on average 5 fps
#1591 [16:33] <SimenOlai> wut
#1592 [16:33] <Wug> then use proprietary drivers
#1593 [16:33] <Wug> they're almost always better
#1594 [16:33] <rymate1234> the ati drivers haven't been updated for fedora 16 yet
#1595 [16:33] <Wug> ...
#1596 [16:34] <rymate1234> wat?
#1597 [16:34] <Wug> such is the penalty of the early adopter
#1598 [16:34] <rymate1234> :P
#1599 [16:35] <rymate1234> so I'm gonna have to put up with it? D:
#1600 [16:35] <Wug> all I can say is check that the driver is actually being used and that its not rendering in software
#1601 [16:35] <rymate1234> how do I do that?
#1602 [16:35] <Wug> you might be able to tell indirectly if you can get the temprtature of the graphics card
#1603 [16:35] <Wug> temperature*
#1604 [16:36] <davisbacon> if it's cold it's not working hard enough
#1605 [16:36] <rymate1234> how do I do that
#1606 [16:36] <Wug> if it rises during gameplay, then the driver just sucks
#1607 [16:36] <Wug> google it, I have no idea
#1608 [16:36] <Wug> ;)
#1609 [16:37] <rymate1234> :P
#1610 [16:37] <SimenOlai> :P
#1611 [16:38] <rymate1234> ok, done research
#1612 [16:38] <rymate1234> need to wait till end of november
#1613 [16:39] <rymate1234> for ati drivers
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#1616 [16:44] <Helpme> Help, every time I try to log in
#1617 [16:44] <Helpme> I get error screen...
#1618 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Could you copy that error, paste it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL to it?
#1619 [16:45] <Helpme> OKay sec
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#1621 [16:46] <Helpme> http://pastebin.com/r9VwATyS
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#1623 [16:47] <Wug> ??> Helpme win/dxdiag
#1624 [16:47] <VoxelHead> Helpme: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1625 [16:47] <VoxelHead> Helpme: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1626 [16:48] <Helpme> Okay, one moment.
#1627 [16:49] <thebrasse> I have build a large elevated platform of cobblestone. then i made a 8x8 square of dirt on top of it, hoping that it would grow some grass. but there is no grass growing on the dirt. why is that? anyone know. i'm not talking about tall grass. just the grass that is a green texture on the dirt block.
#1628 [16:50] <davisbacon> thanks bye
#1629 [16:50] <Helpme> http://pastebin.com/HkfecuXH
#1630 [16:51] <Helpme> That is what I get
#1631 [16:53] <Helpme> Anybody?
#1632 [16:53] <Wug> Helpme: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20601&ProdId=2991&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%2C%2064-bit*&DownloadType=
#1633 [16:53] <Wug> download and install
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#1638 [17:00] <wilma> hello?
#1639 [17:00] <Skyhawk> hey can I get an admin to help me please?
#1640 [17:00] <Skyhawk> I was told to come here by 8bit, who banned me from the forums for no reason
#1641 [17:01] <Scott> This channel is not associated with the minecraft forums
#1642 [17:01] <Wug> that would be a #minecraftforums issue
#1643 [17:01] <wilma> I bought the game this today so that I'd have something to do while my main computer is in the shop, I'm running on intel integrated drivers and was wondering if there was anything I could do to get around the whole "bad drivers" message.
#1644 [17:02] <Scott> Yes.
#1645 [17:02] <Skyhawk> ok
#1646 [17:02] <Scott> What OS?
#1647 [17:02] <Wug> wilma: you could try updating them
#1648 [17:02] <Scott> ?? os
#1649 [17:02] <VoxelHead> os: Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
#1650 [17:02] <wilma> windows XP
#1651 [17:02] <Scott> ??> wilma win/dxdiag
#1652 [17:02] <VoxelHead> wilma: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1653 [17:02] <VoxelHead> wilma: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1654 [17:03] <wilma> It's a really shitty intergrated graphics
#1655 [17:03] <wilma> Getting the log right now
#1656 [17:03] <Jorre> I can't make my carts go any faster than on the gold tracks right?
#1657 [17:04] <SimenOlai> scott
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#1659 [17:04] <SimenOlai> you need to add Windows 98 and windows 95 :D
#1660 [17:04] <SimenOlai> we never know, if someone with that joins
#1661 [17:04] <Scott> No one is going to help with those.
#1662 [17:05] <SimenOlai> lol
#1663 [17:05] <Scott> I didn't list every OS.
#1664 [17:05] <SimenOlai> lazy
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#1666 [17:05] <Scott> I listed the last 3 releases of the 2 major operating systems.
#1667 [17:05] <wilma> http://pastebin.com/uC1fHLsg
#1668 [17:05] <Scott> wilma hold on
#1669 [17:05] <wilma> It does work on classic although my view distance is very low
#1670 [17:06] <Scott> http://downloadmirror.intel.com/16835/a08/winxp_14324.exe
#1671 [17:06] <Scott> download and install that
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#1673 [17:07] <wilma> Thank you, I will buy you a copy of the Voxtron bundle if this works
#1674 [17:07] <mib_l58vev> i need help updating my hardware drivers
#1675 [17:07] <Scott> I don't have that yet so :D
#1676 [17:08] <Scott> mib_l58vev: What OS?
#1677 [17:08] <Scott> ?? os
#1678 [17:08] <VoxelHead> os: Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
#1679 [17:08] <SimenOlai> how can you update hardware drivers
#1680 [17:08] <SimenOlai> you need the buy them in store D:
#1681 [17:08] <mib_l58vev> windows xp
#1682 [17:08] <Scott> By following my directions
#1683 [17:08] <Scott> ??> mib_l58vev win/dxdiag
#1684 [17:08] <VoxelHead> mib_l58vev: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1685 [17:08] <VoxelHead> mib_l58vev: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1686 [17:09] <SimenOlai> wouldnt it be more like updating drivers software?
#1687 [17:09] <Scott> drivers are software.
#1688 [17:09] <Scott> redundant
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#1690 [17:09] <SimenOlai> he asked for updating hardware drivers D:
#1691 [17:11] <mib_l58vev> were doesi t say driver and software
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#1693 [17:12] <Scott> Just please follow those directions and I can get you the correct drivers, mib_l58vev.
#1694 [17:12] <Scott> mib_z77n19 did it work? :D
#1695 [17:13] <Jorre> I can't make my carts go any faster than on the gold tracks right? :P
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#1698 [17:13] <mib_l58vev> it doesent say driver and software
#1699 [17:13] <Scott> ??> mib_l58vev win/dxdiag
#1700 [17:13] <VoxelHead> mib_l58vev: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1701 [17:14] <VoxelHead> mib_l58vev: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1702 [17:14] <Scott> Please just follow those instructions...
#1703 [17:15] <mib_l58vev> never mind
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#1706 [17:23] <mib_l58vev> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 11/11/2011, 16:13:07 Machine name: WRIGHT2 Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.101209-1647) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: Vostro 220 Ser
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#1708 [17:25] <Wug> :P
#1709 [17:25] <Wug> mib_l58vev: use pastebin
#1710 [17:25] <Wug> like the directions say
#1711 [17:26] <mib_l58vev> i did and it gave me this
#1712 [17:27] <mib_l58vev> it gave me the system info
#1713 [17:29] <mib_l58vev> VoxelHead said that i was to cody the system info and paste it on the IRC channel
#1714 [17:29] <mib_l58vev> what is the IRC channel
#1715 [17:29] <Wug> no, it didnt
#1716 [17:29] <Wug> this is an irc channel
#1717 [17:30] <Wug> use pastebin, like the instructions said
#1718 [17:31] <mib_l58vev> what link am i supposed to copy then?
#1719 [17:31] <Wug> the pastebin page
#1720 [17:32] <mib_l58vev> ok http://pastebin.com/9Ma7ywxV
#1721 [17:33] <mib_l58vev> is that the link
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#1723 [17:34] <Wug> mib_l58vev: well, you have no video card
#1724 [17:35] <mib_l58vev> what does that mean?
#1725 [17:35] <mib_l58vev> i cant play minecraft?
#1726 [17:35] <Wug> minecraft requires one.
#1727 [17:35] <Scott> I'm not really surprised either.
#1728 [17:36] <mib_l58vev> were do i get a video card?
#1729 [17:36] <Scott> That's a business desktop.
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#1731 [17:37] <Scott> mib_l58vev: Look on the tower and see if you can find the Dell Service Tag
#1732 [17:37] <Scott> I can lookup the specs for it when it shipped.
#1733 [17:38] <mib_l58vev> were should i look for the Dell Service tag at?
#1734 [17:38] <Scott> Umm it might be under a door on the front, the sides, or the back
#1735 [17:38] <Wug> mib_l58vev: you might have some luck with this: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&releaseid=R197394&SystemID=VOS_D_220&servicetag=&os=WLH&osl=en&deviceid=16899&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=1&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=0&libid=6&typeid=-1&dateid=-1&formatid=-1&source=-1&fileid=272931
#1736 [17:39] <mib_l58vev> so it sumthing on the computer and its not like a program?
#1737 [17:39] <Scott> yes
#1738 [17:40] <mib_l58vev> what would it look like?
#1739 [17:40] <Wug> mib_l58vev: its a number of some sort
#1740 [17:40] <Wug> might have letters too
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#1742 [17:40] <Scott> it has numbers and letters
#1743 [17:41] <Scott> it should just say Service Tag: the stuff here and a barcode above it or near it
#1744 [17:41] <mib_l58vev> there is a sticker that sees 20MV3j1 on it
#1745 [17:41] <mib_l58vev> is that it?
#1746 [17:42] <mib_l58vev> it sees service tag on it so it is
#1747 [17:43] <Scott> You do have a graphics card according to this.
#1748 [17:43] <Scott> Did you buy the computer new/
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#1750 [17:43] <mib_l58vev> yes
#1751 [17:43] <bombshock> hey
#1752 [17:43] <Scott> Have you modified it?
#1753 [17:43] <bombshock> i got the black scree of death
#1754 [17:43] <Wug> :dx > bombshock
#1755 [17:43] <WugBot> bombshock: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1756 [17:43] <WugBot> bombshock: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#1757 [17:44] <mib_l58vev> since i got it no
#1758 [17:44] <bombshock> k ill try
#1759 [17:44] <Wug> mib_l58vev: go here: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&catid=-1&impid=-1&os=WLH&osl=en&ServiceTag=20MV3J1
#1760 [17:45] <Wug> at the very bottom of the list, you'll see a video section
#1761 [17:45] <Wug> expand it, and try the first one
#1762 [17:45] <mib_l58vev> it dosent run on vista tho it runs on xp
#1763 [17:45] <bombshock> k now what
#1764 [17:46] <Wug> bombshock: you're not done
#1765 [17:46] <bombshock> ok
#1766 [17:46] <Scott> mib_l58vev: download this: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/auto/amddriverdownloader.exe
#1767 [17:46] <Scott> It should manage to tell you if you have newer drivers available.
#1768 [17:46] <bombshock> so what next
#1769 [17:46] <Wug> :directions > bombshock
#1770 [17:46] <WugBot> bombshock: (directions) Everything is explained in the directions. If you can't find it, look harder, its there somewhere. Just follow the directions and don't skip any steps.
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#1772 [17:47] <bombshock> this new thing poped up on my desktop called hs_err_pid4904.log - Notepad is that it
#1773 [17:48] <Wug> its from java crashing, ignore it
#1774 [17:48] <deans> i have the "cant connect to minecraft.net" message everytime i try to sign in
#1775 [17:48] <Wug> now finish up with those directions
#1776 [17:48] <Wug> deans: did you pirate minecraft in the past
#1777 [17:49] <Wug> ;check minecraft.net:80
#1778 [17:49] <WugBot> minecraft.net:80 is accepting connections.
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#1780 [17:49] <deans> whats pirate? i downloaded it a while ago now, and whatever i try iy comes up with that message
#1781 [17:50] <deans> t*
#1782 [17:50] <Scott> did you pay for the game?
#1783 [17:50] <deans> yes i did
#1784 [17:50] <Scott> Did you ever play the game without paying for it?
#1785 [17:50] <deans> no
#1786 [17:50] <Scott> Then you likely didn't pirate it
#1787 [17:50] <mib_l58vev> i tried downloading it but i just flickers on for a second then of?
#1788 [17:51] <deans> ok is there anyway i can get log into the game?
#1789 [17:51] <bombshock> umm scott i might have done that my friend downloaded minecraftsp.exe onto my computer is that what the problem might be??
#1790 [17:51] <bombshock> cuz now i have a paid account
#1791 [17:51] <deans> i can log in on the website but not on the desktop version
#1792 [17:51] <bombshock> and i cant create worlds
#1793 [17:51] <SimenOlai> bombshock
#1794 [17:51] <SimenOlai> whats your problem?
#1795 [17:51] <Scott> That is a pirated version.
#1796 [17:52] <Scott> deans: What antivirus do you use?
#1797 [17:52] <bombshock> black screen of death saying minecraft crashed
#1798 [17:52] <bombshock> and i bought the game yesturday
#1799 [17:52] <SimenOlai> could you copy that message and paste it at pastebin?
#1800 [17:52] <bombshock> no
#1801 [17:52] <deans> i use mcafee
#1802 [17:52] <bombshock> it wouldnt allow me
#1803 [17:52] <SimenOlai> whats your minecraft username
#1804 [17:52] <bombshock> BomBShocK59
#1805 [17:53] <SimenOlai> !paid BomBShocK59
#1806 [17:53] <SimenOlai> let me get you a link
#1807 [17:53] <mib_l58vev> i think i downloaded it but im not shoure?
#1808 [17:53] <bombshock> see but i cant use it
#1809 [17:53] <bombshock> ok
#1810 [17:53] <SimenOlai> windows?
#1811 [17:53] <bombshock> ya
#1812 [17:53] <Scott> deans: disable mcafee and try
#1813 [17:54] <SimenOlai> ok
#1814 [17:54] <Scott> i remember mcafee breaking minecraft
#1815 [17:54] <deans> ok thanks
#1816 [17:54] <Scott> I suggest you remove mcafee and install microsoft security essentials.
#1817 [17:54] <SimenOlai> i pm-ed you
#1818 [17:54] <bombshock> ?
#1819 [17:55] <SimenOlai> i sent you a pom
#1820 [17:55] <SimenOlai> pm*
#1821 [17:55] <bombshock> on my email?
#1822 [17:55] <SimenOlai> pm not email..
#1823 [17:55] <SimenOlai> ofc i sent it on your email
#1824 [17:55] <SimenOlai> lol i dont got your email
#1825 [17:55] <bombshock> k where can i find the pm?
#1826 [17:56] <Wug> :pm
#1827 [17:56] <Wug> ?? pm
#1828 [17:56] <VoxelHead> pm: Private messages, or PM's, are sent from one person to another directly, and prevent the main chat from getting clogged.
#1829 [17:56] <VoxelHead> pm: PM's appear, in Mibbit, in tabs on the upper left, labelled by the nickname of the sender.
#1830 [17:56] <SimenOlai> lol
#1831 [17:56] <bombshock> oh
#1832 [17:56] <SimenOlai> good one wug
#1833 [17:56] <bombshock> ok ill chec
#1834 [17:56] <deans> yeh i disabled it but i still have login failed :/, i havnt ever had any login problems before..:s
#1835 [17:56] <Wug> ;+ pm Private messages, or PM's, are sent from one person to another directly, and prevent the main chat from getting clogged. PM's appear, in Mibbit, in tabs on the upper left, labelled by the nickname of the sender.
#1836 [17:56] <WugBot> Done.
#1837 [17:56] <SimenOlai> deans, try in the browser
#1838 [17:56] <bombshock> nope
#1839 [17:56] <bombshock> not there
#1840 [17:56] <TheNytangel> Wug, why did you guys convince me to get an 850 watt power supply...
#1841 [17:56] <SimenOlai> yes it is
#1842 [17:56] <mib_l58vev> i tried getting on to minecraft and it still dosent work
#1843 [17:57] <Wug> TheNytangel: is it too much or not enough
#1844 [17:57] <deans> i can do in browser, but i want to do multiplayer
#1845 [17:57] <SimenOlai> uhm
#1846 [17:57] <SimenOlai> that
#1847 [17:57] <SimenOlai> doesnt
#1848 [17:57] <SimenOlai> sound legit
#1849 [17:57] <TheNytangel> Wug, it's probably too much, but I haven't gotten my video card yet so I haven't turned it on yet :P
#1850 [17:58] <Wug> iirc, I tried to get you to get something lower
#1851 [17:58] <Wug> I have a 650 myself
#1852 [17:58] <Wug> your build was somewhat similar to mine
#1853 [17:58] <TheNytangel> And you were overruled ^.^
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#1855 [17:59] <Wug> so i herd you built a computer over skype
#1856 [17:59] <TheNytangel> I did :P
#1857 [17:59] <Wug> y u no invite wuggy :(
#1858 [17:59] <TheNytangel> You... wern't on last night?
#1859 [17:59] <Wug> I was for some of the time
#1860 [17:59] <TheNytangel> We were talking about in here and GreyVulpine whimpered when I couldn't figure out how to put a CD drive in
#1861 [17:59] <Wug> lol
#1862 [18:00] <TheNytangel> And then I realized I had to take the front cover OFF to do it
#1863 [18:00] <Wug> I remember jabbing you because GreyVulpine told me to
#1864 [18:00] <SimenOlai> lol
#1865 [18:00] <deans> yeh so, this is really bugging me, i dont know how i can fix it!
#1866 [18:00] <Wug> ??< index
#1867 [18:00] <TheNytangel> Wug, it wouldn't have turned out any different, because it still would have been me going just as slow.. taking me 20 minutes to figure out how to put a processor and fan thingy on top of it in
#1868 [18:01] <Wug> A FAN THINGY
#1869 [18:01] <SimenOlai> lol
#1870 [18:01] * Wug bands TheNytangel
#1870 [18:01] <Wug> bans*
#1871 [18:01] <TheNytangel> Lol
#1872 [18:02] <TheNytangel> At least I knew where the RAM went
#1873 [18:02] <SimenOlai> lol
#1874 [18:02] <mib_l58vev> hay?
#1875 [18:03] <SimenOlai> hi
#1876 [18:03] <Wug> mib_l58vev: if the driver didnt work, then there probably isnt anything you can do
#1877 [18:03] <Wug> that computer wasnt meant to play games
#1878 [18:03] <TheNytangel> Yes it was
#1879 [18:03] <Wug> TheNytangel: it has no graphics card
#1880 [18:03] <TheNytangel> Not yet
#1881 [18:03] <deans> i cant login to minecraft, it says "cant connect to minecraft.net"
#1882 [18:03] <mib_l58vev> so i need to get a new computer?
#1883 [18:03] <Wug> TheNytangel: http://pastebin.com/9Ma7ywxV
#1884 [18:04] <Wug> ??> deans hosts
#1885 [18:04] <VoxelHead> deans: (hosts) In circumstances usually relating to piracy, the operating system's hosts file may need to be inspected to ensure that the system can connect to minecraft's login servers.
#1886 [18:04] <VoxelHead> deans: (hosts) For operating system specific information regarding this, see one of the following factoids - Windows: win/hosts - Mac: mac/hosts - Linux: linux/hosts
#1887 [18:04] <Wug> ??> deans win/hosts
#1888 [18:04] <VoxelHead> deans: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1889 [18:04] <VoxelHead> deans: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1890 [18:04] <TheNytangel> Wug, my graphics card comes on Tuesday, then I'll put it in and start my computer
#1891 [18:04] <Wug> TheNytangel: I'm not talking about your computer
#1892 [18:05] <TheNytangel> I am
#1893 [18:05] <Wug> thats why I mentioned mib_l58vev
#1894 [18:05] <TheNytangel> :P
#1895 [18:05] <TheNytangel> So I don't pay attention...
#1896 [18:05] <TheNytangel> Let's just hope I put all the cords in the right place on the function panel
#1897 [18:06] <mib_l58vev> do i need to get no minecraft on another computer
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#1899 [18:07] <deans> ok is this info like ok to paste for everyone or...
#1900 [18:07] <Wug> deans: pastebin
#1901 [18:07] <Wug> like the instructions say
#1902 [18:07] <Wug> I'm just going to make wugbot use :directions every minute, whether it needs it or not
#1903 [18:07] <TheNytangel> Wug, when I have enough money to buy parts for another computer, when I have a job, you can help me too :)
#1904 [18:07] <deans> whats a pastebin? sorry im abit new
#1905 [18:07] <Wug> www.pastebin.com
#1906 [18:08] <Wug> fairly self explanitory
#1907 [18:08] <mib_l58vev> well that sucks i cant play minecraft
#1908 [18:08] <Wug> though we have had to spend 30 minutes explaining how to use it to people before
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#1910 [18:09] <deans> http://pastebin.com/UmCWYeWg
#1911 [18:09] <mib_l58vev> well thanks for the help
#1912 [18:09] <Austin> When i run the game there is a black screen then it sais error.
#1913 [18:09] <TheNytangel> Wug, was my computer better than alienware?
#1914 [18:10] <Austin> it has somthing to do with some disk drive
#1915 [18:10] <Wug> TheNytangel: I have no idea what was in it
#1916 [18:10] <TheNytangel> Wug, computer parts, of course
#1917 [18:10] <Wug> but its probably better than some and not as good as others
#1918 [18:10] <Wug> good golly gosh, a computer that has computer stuff in it
#1919 [18:11] <TheNytangel> :o
#1920 [18:11] <TheNytangel> Who said that?
#1921 [18:11] <Wug> TheNytangel: well, specs?
#1922 [18:11] <TheNytangel> Wug, it has a motherboard, a CD drive, a hard drive, a power supply...
#1923 [18:11] <Wug> ... GreyVulpine, please help me
#1924 [18:12] <deans> have i dont it right? :/
#1925 [18:12] <TheNytangel> Hold on
#1926 [18:12] <TheNytangel> XD
#1927 [18:12] <deans> do it*
#1928 [18:12] <deans> done it*
#1929 [18:12] <Wug> deans: yeah. thats the entire thing
#1930 [18:12] <Wug> ?
#1931 [18:12] <TheNytangel> Wug, I'll pm you
#1932 [18:12] <deans> sooo, is there an issue or..
#1933 [18:13] <Wug> deans: not if thats the entire thing. people sometimes have a habit of accidentally not copying the entire file though
#1934 [18:13] <Wug> anyway, I'd try disabling any antivirus or firewall programs you have
#1935 [18:14] <deans> oh ok, so i mean is there any explanation for me not beng able to log in! :(
#1936 [18:20] <Wug> yeah, you have an antivirus program or something blocking minecraft from connecting, like I said
#1937 [18:20] <deans> wow this is so annoying!
#1938 [18:20] <deans> ok so if i disable mcafee should it work?
#1939 [18:21] <Wug> try it. if it does, add an exception
#1940 [18:22] <deans> ahh no it didnt work
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#1942 [18:22] <deans> is there anyway i can just start again, new account, re-download, dont even know!
#1943 [18:22] <Wug> well, do you have any other security software
#1944 [18:23] <deans> i do have microsoft security essentials, the free one? had it for ages
#1945 [18:23] <Wug> its not an issue with your account, its an issue with software on your computer
#1946 [18:23] <Wug> :tv > dean
#1947 [18:23] <WugBot> dean: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1948 [18:23] <WugBot> dean: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1949 [18:25] <deans> no i dont think i have any other security software actually
#1950 [18:25] <deans> i have searched nothing has came up
#1951 [18:28] <deans> so what do you think i should do?
#1952 [18:29] <SimenOlai> uhm
#1953 [18:29] <SimenOlai> guys
#1954 [18:29] <SimenOlai> http://pastebin.com/jK0Ut8gc
#1955 [18:29] <SimenOlai> a guy i just teamviewed
#1956 [18:29] <SimenOlai> ops, didnt see that tab
#1957 [18:30] <SimenOlai> old graphic card?
#1958 [18:30] <Wug> ancient
#1959 [18:30] <Wug> its an SiS
#1960 [18:30] <Wug> thats the same sort that the one I'm connected from has
#1961 [18:30] <Wug> :mclol
#1962 [18:30] <WugBot> mclol: http://wug.me/minecraft/mclol.png
#1963 [18:30] <SimenOlai> whats the problem here? http://pastebin.com/jK0Ut8gc
#1964 [18:31] <Wug> <SimenOlai> old graphic card?
#1965 [18:31] <Wug> ^ that
#1966 [18:31] <SimenOlai> ook
#1967 [18:31] <SimenOlai> so how i help my ''friend''
#1968 [18:31] <SimenOlai> :P
#1969 [18:31] <Wug> make him buy a new graphics card
#1970 [18:31] <SimenOlai> lol
#1971 [18:31] <Wug> or try updating the driver somehow
#1972 [18:31] <SimenOlai> should i give you dxdiag?
#1973 [18:31] <Wug> if you cant get it to update from the device manage you're probably sunk
#1974 [18:31] <Wug> manager*
#1975 [18:31] <SimenOlai> now he ask me if i can make him a server, lol
#1976 [18:32] <Wug> SimenOlai: tell him no
#1977 [18:32] <SimenOlai> he has pc from 2002 or 2003
#1978 [18:32] <Wug> if his computer's old enough to have one of those in it, it wont run a server
#1979 [18:32] <SimenOlai> only pc in his house
#1980 [18:32] <Wug> wug.me has 384MB ram and a pentium 2
#1981 [18:32] <Wug> when I got it it had windows 2000 on it
#1982 [18:32] <SimenOlai> o.O
#1983 [18:33] <Wug> picked it up from my dads office for free
#1984 [18:33] <SimenOlai> lol
#1985 [18:33] <Wug> it had been in the attic for years -.-
#1986 [18:33] <SimenOlai> ill give you a dxdiag so we can have something to laugh of :P
#1987 [18:33] <deans> sorry to interupt but im still having issues with the log on :(
#1988 [18:33] <Wug> deans: I gave you an instruction and you ignored it
#1989 [18:33] <Wug> so I'm ignoring you until you do it, mmk?
#1990 [18:34] <deans> sorry, what was the instruction, im being retarded atm
#1991 [18:34] <Wug> scroll up
#1992 [18:35] <deans> is wugbot referring to "dean" as in me
#1993 [18:35] <Wug> yep
#1994 [18:35] <Wug> I guess I mistyped
#1995 [18:36] <deans> ok i have it up, do i give you my id and pass, if so how do i priv message ? :)
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#1997 [18:38] <Wug> thats in the directions too
#1998 [18:38] <deans> i genuinely dont understand it, sorry for being a complete newbie
#1999 [18:38] <Wug> /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#2000 [18:39] <SimenOlai> ok, here is it http://pastebin.com/LQugYGrL
#2001 [18:39] <SimenOlai> lol
#2002 [18:39] <Wug> SimenOlai: lol
#2003 [18:39] <Wug> its not the worst I've seen
#2004 [18:39] <deans> and what do i do with that?
#2005 [18:39] <SimenOlai> lol
#2006 [18:39] <Wug> deans: you substitude in the required info and then you type it
#2007 [18:39] <Wug> substitute*
#2008 [18:41] <deans> msg user ID: 611 363 266 pass: 6026
#2009 [18:41] <Wug> you forgot the slash
#2010 [18:41] <TheNytangel> *facepalm*
#2011 [18:41] <TheNytangel> Also forgot to replace "user" with "Wug"
#2012 [18:41] <Wug> and you didnt substitute my name for "user"
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#2014 [18:45] <deans> :j
#2015 [18:45] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://goo.gl/h2OEh (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 29)
#2016 [18:46] <charlie81dbz> just curious, but are the mc servers down for everyone else?
#2017 [18:46] <Wug> deans: teamviewer only gives me 5 minutes at a time
#2018 [18:47] <Wug> so sit tight, I'll be back in a minute
#2019 [18:47] <deans> ok thanks
#2020 [18:47] <eggy> 5 min?
#2021 [18:47] <eggy> that something new?
#2022 [18:47] <eggy> that something new?
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#2024 [18:47] <Wug> no, they just think I'm a company
#2025 [18:47] <Wug> because I do this way too much
#2026 [18:47] <eggy> oh.. i see heh
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#2028 [18:49] <Balee> Hiya.
#2029 [18:51] <Balee> Guys, does anyone here know if the mystery of the beta licenses was resolved?
#2030 [18:52] <eggy> what's this now?
#2031 [18:53] <Wug> deans: it kicked me out again. hang on, I'll be back in a minute
#2032 [18:53] <Balee> There was a thread opened by Notch when the beta phase started, about purchasing beta licenses.
#2033 [18:53] <Wug> almost done though
#2034 [18:53] <deans> ok no problem :)
#2035 [18:54] <Wug> it might even work if you tried to run it now
#2036 [18:54] <deans> nope it didnt
#2037 [18:54] <Balee> Which kinda sounded like as if people who bought the beta wouldn't recieve updates after the full release.
#2038 [18:55] <Balee> So then there was a debate about this either here, or the other channel, not sure which.
#2039 [18:55] <Wug> ;+ java/reg HKLM/SOFTWARE/Javasoft/
#2040 [18:55] <WugBot> Done.
#2041 [18:55] <Balee> And I don't know if anyone asked Notch about this on Twitter or the forums or something.
#2042 [18:56] <DreadLindwyrm> Balee - I believe the main distinction is that Alpha was badly worded, and meant that the alpha guys get all future versions and expansions free.
#2043 [18:57] <deans> :ts/launcher
#2044 [18:57] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#2045 [18:57] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
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#2047 [18:57] <Balee> DreadLindwyrm: So?
#2048 [18:57] <Balee> Does that not apply to beta purchasers, then?
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#2050 [19:00] <DreadLindwyrm> That'd include hypothetically Minecraft 2, and 3 and so on for Alpha subscribers.
#2051 [19:01] <Wug> deans: hang on again
#2052 [19:02] <Balee> DreadLindwyrm: Yes. That would make sense.
#2053 [19:02] <Balee> For both Alpha and Beta subscribers.
#2054 [19:03] <Balee> As long as a "Minecraft 2" is not a completely different game, at least.
#2055 [19:03] <Balee> But is an upgrade of 1.x.
#2056 [19:03] <Balee> Like how...
#2057 [19:03] <SimenOlai> wyt
#2058 [19:03] <SimenOlai> wut
#2059 [19:03] <SimenOlai> uhm wug
#2060 [19:03] <Balee> I bought Worms Armageddon 1.0 back in the days...
#2061 [19:04] <Balee> And now I have 3.6.31.0
#2062 [19:04] <Wug> ?
#2063 [19:04] <SimenOlai> that file
#2064 [19:04] <SimenOlai> its in a folder named illegal :OOOOO
#2065 [19:04] <Balee> Without paying any more.
#2066 [19:04] <bombshock> later guys turns out my computer cant play minecraft
#2067 [19:04] <bombshock> its to old D:
#2068 [19:04] <bombshock> :D
#2069 [19:04] <bombshock> bye
#2070 [19:05] <DreadLindwyrm> Balee - I'm talking in the same way as Worms, and Worms Armageddon being different games.
#2071 [19:05] <Balee> Yes, in that case, sure. Those are different games.
#2072 [19:05] <SimenOlai> good night everyone
#2073 [19:06] <Wug> deans: hold on a sec
#2074 [19:06] <Wug> retype the password in the launcher
#2075 [19:06] <deans> im logged in now, got my passoword mixed
#2076 [19:06] <Wug> ot might just be wrong
#2077 [19:06] <Wug> it*
#2078 [19:06] <Balee> I think this was that thread. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/103476-minecraft-licenses-and-you/page__p__1605435__hl__beta+licence__fromsearch__1#entry1605435
#2079 [19:07] <Balee> Ah, crap, sorry for the long link.
#2080 [19:07] <Balee> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/103476-minecraft-licenses-and-you/
#2081 [19:07] <Balee> "if you buy it during beta, you also get the final version for free. Expansions, probably not."
#2082 [19:07] <deans> ok im logged in now!
#2083 [19:08] <Balee> So basically, we'll get Minecraft 1, but we won't get a 1.1.
#2084 [19:08] <Wug> was probably just a wrong password -.-
#2085 [19:08] <Balee> Even if it's just an update for 1.
#2086 [19:08] <Wug> oh well. I fixed java too
#2087 [19:08] <deans> thankyou very much :D
#2088 [19:08] <Balee> Which would be silly.
#2089 [19:08] <Wug> np
#2090 [19:09] <Wug> next time try double checking the password first >:|
#2091 [19:09] <deans> yeh i think i thought i had the right passowrd before tho, im sure i did!
#2092 [19:10] <deans> but its working now anyway :D cya
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#2096 [19:25] <michael__> Hello, I'm trying to use MC on Linux Mint 10, and it gives me an error, can you help me anyone?
#2097 [19:26] <michael__> the error is...
#2098 [19:26] <michael__> Minecraft has crashed!
#2099 [19:26] <michael__> ----------------------
#2100 [19:26] <michael__> Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem.
#2101 [19:26] <michael__> If you wish to report this, please copy this entire text and email it to support@mojang.com.
#2102 [19:26] <michael__> Please include a description of what you did when the error occured.
#2103 [19:26] <michael__> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT a1dce528 --------
#2104 [19:27] <michael__> [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)]
#2105 [19:27] <michael__> org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not init GLX
#2106 [19:27] <michael__> at org.lwjgl.opengl.LinuxDisplayPeerInfo.initDefaultPeerInfo(Native Method)
#2107 [19:27] <michael__> at org.lwjgl.opengl.LinuxDisplayPeerInfo.initDefaultPeerInfo(Native Method)
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#2109 [19:27] <michael__> at org.lwjgl.opengl.LinuxDisplay.createPeerInfo(LinuxDisplay.java:684)
#2110 [19:27] <michael__> at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.create(Display.java:854)
#2111 [19:27] <michael__> at org.lwjgl.opengl.Display.create(Display.java:784)
#2112 [19:27] <michael__> at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662)
#2113 [19:27] <michael__> --- END ERROR REPORT bd27172b ----------
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#2115 [19:28] <michael__> Sry about that, can anyone help me though?
#2116 [19:30] <Balee> Woot.
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#2119 [19:36] <madmiket> what ports do i need to open on a server to let other players to join
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#2123 [19:43] <kyousukenek> how do you trafer games between computers
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#2125 [19:43] <kyousukenek> transfer
#2126 [19:44] <umbridge> how can i know if my transaction went threw
#2127 [19:45] <Balee> !paid umbridge
#2128 [19:45] <Balee> That's how.
#2129 [19:45] <kyousukenek> !paid kyousukeneko
#2130 [19:45] <Balee> Albeit late.
#2131 [19:45] <kyousukenek> yeah no one answered mine
#2132 [19:46] <Balee> kyousukenek: What do you mean "games"?
#2133 [19:46] <Balee> Worlds?
#2134 [19:46] <kyousukenek> yeah
#2135 [19:46] <Balee> Do you have Windows?
#2136 [19:46] <kyousukenek> yeah
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#2138 [19:46] <Balee> Find your user's Application Data folder, then.
#2139 [19:46] <Balee> It is usually like so...
#2140 [19:46] <Balee> (Just a moment.)
#2141 [19:47] <Balee> In the c:\Documents and Settings\YOURUSERNAME\ folder, where your "Documents" folder is as well.
#2142 [19:47] <Balee> Although I guess it can be a bit different in case of newer Windows, I have XP.
#2143 [19:48] <Balee> If you type %appdata% in Start Menu -> Run..., then you get to the same folder.
#2144 [19:48] <Balee> It's hidden by default.
#2145 [19:48] <Balee> There you can find a .minecraft folder.
#2146 [19:48] <kyousukenek> i have hidden showing
#2147 [19:49] <Balee> Lol, Oerg, I didn't even notice him here.
#2148 [19:49] <Balee> kyousukenek: Good.
#2149 [19:49] <Balee> Did you find the folder, then? :)
#2150 [19:50] <kyousukenek> yeah just can currently access it
#2151 [19:51] <Balee> What do you mean?
#2152 [19:53] <kyousukenek> the computer wont let me access the applicatipn fold
#2153 [19:53] <Balee> Oh.
#2154 [19:53] <Balee> Any idea why?
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#2156 [19:55] <kyousukenek> not in the mood to mess with it
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#2159 [19:56] <Balee> Well anyways.
#2160 [19:56] <Balee> If you can access it in the future...
#2161 [19:56] <Balee> You need the "saves" folder there.
#2162 [19:56] <Balee> And inside that, you'll see all your worlds, one per folder.
#2163 [19:57] <kyousukenek> it should be easy enough i just found something
#2164 [19:57] <Balee> If you want to move a world from place A to B, just copy the entire folder.
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#2166 [20:00] <kyousukenek> should easy enough
#2167 [20:01] <kyousukenek> what about setting up a single player world as a multiplayer server
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#2169 [20:01] <GreyVulpine> Simple as copying the world folder over to where you have the server
#2170 [20:01] <kyousukenek> cool
#2171 [20:02] <lostdemouse> When u purchase a mc account u have to wait 24 hours right
#2172 [20:02] <kyousukenek> i want to make this crazy world into aserver
#2173 [20:02] <Balee> But keep in mind.
#2174 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> lostdemouse - Not always
#2175 [20:02] <Balee> If you use a world online, the offline one won't be affected.
#2176 [20:02] <Silent_Samurai> Mine was activated almost instantly when I bought it.
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#2178 [20:02] <Balee> Mine too.
#2179 [20:03] <Silent_Samurai> But then again back then the server were not half dead.
#2180 [20:03] <kyousukenek> SAME WITH MINE
#2181 [20:03] <lostdemouse> Coz there was sth wrong and i times out..but when i called the credit card company they said the transaction went through
#2182 [20:04] <Silent_Samurai> Umm use PayPal its simpler.
#2183 [20:04] <TheNytangel> I don't want Minecraft to end :(
#2184 [20:04] <Silent_Samurai> TheNytangel, What do you mean lol.
#2185 [20:04] <DreadLindwyrm> So never go to the End...
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#2188 [20:04] <TheNytangel> I don't want credits in Minecraft...
#2189 [20:04] <aappeess> hello
#2190 [20:04] <Silent_Samurai> Wait huh?
#2191 [20:04] <Silent_Samurai> Minecraft will have an end?
#2192 [20:05] <TheNytangel> The final release
#2193 [20:05] <TheNytangel> Yeah
#2194 [20:05] * Silent_Samurai shakes his head.
#2194 [20:05] <Silent_Samurai> Notch, umad?
#2195 [20:05] <aappeess> where do i get account support?
#2196 [20:05] <TheNytangel> But you just respawn and keep doing whatever :P
#2197 [20:05] <Silent_Samurai> aappeess, minecraft.net/support
#2198 [20:05] <Silent_Samurai> Oh well.
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#2200 [20:06] <aappeess> no doesnt help me
#2201 [20:06] <lostdemouse> When u say it activated immediately do u nean u got the email right away?? Is the email needed to play?
#2202 [20:06] <aappeess> i forgot my password,however, the email i used originally is no longer active,what do i do?
#2203 [20:07] <Silent_Samurai> lostdemouse, I mean my account became premium...
#2204 [20:07] <DreadLindwyrm> Hope? Can you reactivate the e-mail account at all?
#2205 [20:07] <Silent_Samurai> aappeess, Your in a bit of a hole there...
#2206 [20:07] <aappeess> yea :(
#2207 [20:07] <aappeess> i think my account was hacked because i know what the password was
#2208 [20:08] <Silent_Samurai> I emailed somebody when my accout was hacked, but I can't remember the email.
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#2210 [20:08] <Silent_Samurai> Try to find Daniel Kaplans or whatever his name is email, thats who I sent it too.
#2211 [20:09] <lostdemouse> Erm i dc...so is the email from mojang needed to play or change skins?
#2212 [20:09] <aappeess> who is Daniel Kaplans?
#2213 [20:09] <Silent_Samurai> Some guy at Mojang.
#2214 [20:10] <Scott> You should use the hacked option on the support page
#2215 [20:10] <Scott> account > hacked
#2216 [20:10] <aappeess> i did, but i dont have the reciept number, it was in that email that was closed LOL
#2217 [20:10] <Scott> Then you're out of luck
#2218 [20:11] <Scott> there is no way to confirm your identity
#2219 [20:11] <aappeess> i do have the same bank account still
#2220 [20:11] <Scott> You should be able to fetch the transaction ID in Paypal though.
#2221 [20:11] <aappeess> i believe i used a cc?
#2222 [20:11] <Scott> No idea how you paid but you should be able to get the transaction ID.
#2223 [20:12] <aappeess> what does the purchase show up as on a bank statement?
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#2225 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Mojang AB
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#2230 [20:24] <murphy12313> hi
#2231 [20:24] <murphy12313> ok can someon help me
#2232 [20:27] <murphy12313> hello can someon help me
#2233 [20:27] <Silent_Samurai> No.
#2234 [20:27] <Silent_Samurai> Since you haven't told us the question.
#2235 [20:28] <murphy12313> lol sory
#2236 [20:28] <favour6> i was waiting for the question too
#2237 [20:28] <murphy12313> um i cant mine iorn or ane tipe of or
#2238 [20:28] <murphy12313> like goold iorn and dimonds
#2239 [20:29] <favour6> what type of pickaxe are you using?
#2240 [20:29] <murphy12313> that is it
#2241 [20:29] <murphy12313> wood
#2242 [20:29] <favour6> ah
#2243 [20:29] <favour6> you need stone to mine Iron
#2244 [20:29] <murphy12313> like it destroys it
#2245 [20:29] <favour6> and Iron for the rest
#2246 [20:29] <Silent_Samurai> Iron to mine Diamonds/Gold.
#2247 [20:29] <Silent_Samurai> And Redstone
#2248 [20:29] <murphy12313> ooooooooooo
#2249 [20:29] <favour6> wood is only to mine stone
#2250 [20:29] <Silent_Samurai> favour6, Isn't stone pick enough for Lapis?
#2251 [20:30] <favour6> i don't remember
#2252 [20:30] <favour6> by the time i find lapis its not important
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#2254 [20:34] <AnnaBanana> I just bought Minecraft 40 minutes ago, and every time i try to play it I get a white screen. I dont know what to do and i recieved a email saying my purchase had gone through and that i could go ahead and play.
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#2256 [20:35] <awesomeman> Hello
#2257 [20:36] <AnnaBanana> can you help me?
#2258 [20:36] <awesomeman> All I get when I try to load up minecraft in browser is a white screen.
#2259 [20:36] <TheNytangel> Silent_Samurai, need iron for lapis
#2260 [20:37] <favour6> have you tried the launcher download awesomeman
#2261 [20:37] <awesomeman> brb
#2262 [20:37] <AnnaBanana> i have the same problem as awesomeman
#2263 [20:37] <awesomeman> Java needs to update, I'll report back if it helps
#2264 [20:37] <awesomeman> Java needs to update, I'll report back if it helps
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#2266 [20:38] <Silent_Samurai> Ah ok thanks TheNytangel
#2267 [20:38] <favour6> whats the biggest piston powered door posible?
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#2270 [20:40] <mr_sticky> I bought the game but now i cant figure out how to run it
#2271 [20:40] <Silent_Samurai> Umm 2 by something
#2272 [20:40] <mr_sticky> how do i run the game
#2273 [20:41] <favour6> have you downloaded the launcher mr_sticky?
#2274 [20:41] <mr_sticky> no
#2275 [20:41] <favour6> *face palms*
#2276 [20:41] <favour6> download the launcher
#2277 [20:41] <favour6> start it
#2278 [20:41] <favour6> give it you loggin details
#2279 [20:41] <favour6> build shit
#2280 [20:42] <mr_sticky> what site is the launcher on
#2281 [20:42] <favour6> also profit goes some where in that :p
#2282 [20:42] <favour6> the main Minecraft site
#2283 [20:42] <mr_sticky> ok thanks
#2284 [20:42] <favour6> its on the front page
#2285 [20:43] <favour6> wow what a daft question
#2286 [20:43] <awesomeman> While I wait for The Minecraft.exe to load, who here has gotten Nitronic Rush today?
#2287 [20:43] <favour6> got what?
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#2289 [20:43] <awesomeman> Game that came out today for free
#2290 [20:45] <awesomeman> Ok, so I still get a blank screen on the website, and the .exe won't launch
#2291 [20:46] <favour6> hmm
#2292 [20:46] <favour6> hmm
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#2294 [20:47] <awesomeman> Wait
#2295 [20:47] <awesomeman> I got an idea
#2296 [20:47] <favour6> ok idiot questions (please don't be offended just making sure)
#2297 [20:47] <awesomeman> *turns computer on*
#2298 [20:47] <favour6> double clciked?
#2299 [20:47] <favour6> double clicked*
#2300 [20:47] <awesomeman> It was in the download folder, so double click not required.
#2301 [20:47] <favour6> it is needed
#2302 [20:47] <awesomeman> Right
#2303 [20:48] <awesomeman> What am I thinking tonight
#2304 [20:48] <favour6> you need to move it to some where else
#2305 [20:48] <awesomeman> @.@
#2306 [20:48] <awesomeman> but no , it did not launch
#2307 [20:48] <favour6> ok
#2308 [20:48] <awesomeman> Moved it to my games folder, nothing
#2309 [20:49] <favour6> no box asking for log in details?
#2310 [20:49] <awesomeman> nope
#2311 [20:49] <awesomeman> won't launch period
#2312 [20:50] <favour6> operating system?
#2313 [20:50] <awesomeman> Windows 7
#2314 [20:50] <awesomeman> So its definitely compatible
#2315 [20:51] <favour6> hmmmm
#2316 [20:51] <favour6> the big PC is on 7 and its fine
#2317 [20:51] <favour6> sorry im out of ideas
#2318 [20:51] <favour6> :(
#2319 [20:51] <awesomeman> :(
#2320 [20:52] <awesomeman> I've had minecraft since July 1st, and not once has it loaded on my machine
#2321 [20:52] <awesomeman> its probably Java
#2322 [20:53] <favour6> have you got java installed?
#2323 [20:53] <awesomeman> yes
#2324 [20:53] <awesomeman> Like I said earlier, I was updating it
#2325 [20:54] <favour6> hmmm
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#2327 [20:54] <captls> test
#2328 [20:55] <awesomeman> TESTIFICATE
#2329 [20:55] <captls> hello, I am new to minecraft, and I am just curious that about why the minecraft.jar is being replaced everytime i run minecraft
#2330 [20:55] <TheNytangel> Not unless it updates
#2331 [20:55] <TheNytangel> Erm
#2332 [20:55] <captls> why does the metainf folder keep reappearing>
#2333 [20:55] <favour6> but MC does check its up to date
#2334 [20:56] <awesomeman> Holy crap
#2335 [20:56] <awesomeman> I just did a search for the minecraft.jar, and I can't find it
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#2337 [20:57] <favour6> i find windows 7 is funny with double clicks sometimes
#2338 [20:57] <Luke> hay, where can i find a fresh up to date copy of the debug tool so i can find out what is making my Minecraft go black screen on me?
#2339 [20:58] <favour6> but that could be that the big PC is touch screen
#2340 [20:58] <awesomeman> what is the big PC?
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#2342 [20:58] <favour6> i have 2 PCs
#2343 [20:59] <lostdemouse> who can i find with regards to purchase problems
#2344 [20:59] <awesomeman> As do I
#2345 [20:59] <favour6> an cheap old laptop
#2346 [20:59] <favour6> and the big PC
#2347 [20:59] <favour6> ie the desk top
#2348 [20:59] <awesomeman> I'm forced to use my old laptop for minecraft, instead of this one, with decent specs
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#2350 [21:00] <Luke> hmmm can some one please show me where can i find a fresh up to date copy of the debug tool so i can find out what is making my Minecraft go black screen on me?
#2351 [21:00] <Rizor> Hello? Does anyone know whats going on with MossyCobble? :/
#2352 [21:01] <Silent_Samurai> Luke, Download the jar version of the launcher then do the command "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" when cd'ed into the folder.
#2353 [21:03] <clarjon1> eh
#2354 [21:03] <clarjon1> Silent_Samurai: Why call the jar like that? What's wrong with calling the jar with "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -jar minecraft.jar " ?
#2355 [21:04] * Silent_Samurai shrugs.
#2355 [21:04] <Silent_Samurai> Thats how its on minecraft.net
#2356 [21:04] <Silent_Samurai> Don't shoot the messenger :P
#2357 [21:04] <clarjon1> really?
#2358 [21:04] <Silent_Samurai> I'll find it one second.
#2359 [21:04] <clarjon1> huh, so it is
#2360 [21:04] <awesomeman> I wish I knew what was up with my laptop
#2361 [21:05] <Silent_Samurai> Download minecraft.jar (89 KB). The jar is executable and might work as-is. If you run into memory issues, try launching it with java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2362 [21:05] <clarjon1> Silent_Samurai: I've been using a modification of the server launcher lol
#2363 [21:05] <Silent_Samurai> Oh well haha.
#2364 [21:05] <clarjon1> seems to do the job just as well for me :3
#2365 [21:05] <Silent_Samurai> Although I find launching minecraft though CMD lags it up really hard for me I don't know why.
#2366 [21:06] <Silent_Samurai> 100FPS on max setting by using the .exe, using CMD I get like 10 on lowest settings...
#2367 [21:07] <Luke> where do i download the jar version of the launcher?
#2368 [21:07] <awesomeman> Silent_Samurai, the in browser version only gives me a white screen, and the executable won't execute.
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#2371 [21:13] <Luke> ...
#2372 [21:13] <Mydogmaxieboy> I connot connnect to any Minecraft servers
#2373 [21:13] <Luke> explain?
#2374 [21:13] <Mydogmaxieboy> I try to connect to any servers, and Minecraft stops responding
#2375 [21:14] <Luke> any errors?
#2376 [21:14] <Luke> or does it just freeze?
#2377 [21:14] <Mydogmaxieboy> I have tried both my bootcamp partitions, rebooting my computer, other computer, i just doesnt work
#2378 [21:14] <Mydogmaxieboy> tNo and yes
#2379 [21:14] <Luke> ?
#2380 [21:14] <Mydogmaxieboy> No errors, just stops
#2381 [21:15] <Mydogmaxieboy> Then eventually turns black
#2382 [21:15] <Luke> o
#2383 [21:15] <Luke> do u have any mods
#2384 [21:15] <Mydogmaxieboy> My friend is also having the same problem, and no
#2385 [21:16] <Mydogmaxieboy> I deleted my entire .minecraft folder
#2386 [21:16] <Mydogmaxieboy> Then redownloaded everythiong
#2387 [21:16] <Luke> hmmmm... try force updating your files
#2388 [21:16] <Mydogmaxieboy> Tried it already, didn't work
#2389 [21:16] <Luke> hmmm, what OS are u running?
#2390 [21:16] <Mydogmaxieboy> I redownloaded EVERYTHING
#2391 [21:16] <Mydogmaxieboy> Not just the bin folder
#2392 [21:17] <Mydogmaxieboy> Win 7 and OS X 10.6.8
#2393 [21:17] <Mydogmaxieboy> Tried it on both
#2394 [21:17] <Luke> ok, idk what to tell you exactly.
#2395 [21:17] <Mydogmaxieboy> Do you think it's to do with the Authentication servers?
#2396 [21:17] <Mydogmaxieboy> Do you think it's to do with the Authentication servers?
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#2398 [21:18] <Luke> idk, what makes you say that?
#2399 [21:18] <Mydogmaxieboy> Because it stops on the Logging In screen (once you have connected to a server), and that I believe is the state were it tries to contact Mojags's servers
#2400 [21:19] <Luke> idk, i have never encountered such a thing
#2401 [21:20] <Mydogmaxieboy> RAWR, i'm pissed off
#2402 [21:20] <Mydogmaxieboy> I can no longer play MC
#2403 [21:20] <Mydogmaxieboy> *suicide*
#2404 [21:20] <Mydogmaxieboy> lol
#2405 [21:20] <Luke> hmm
#2406 [21:20] <Luke> idk
#2407 [21:20] <Mydogmaxieboy> Any other ideas?
#2408 [21:21] <Mydogmaxieboy> hmm indeed
#2409 [21:21] <Mydogmaxieboy> I have been trying to fix it for ages
#2410 [21:22] <Luke> well you could try using an error report tool that may show what the problems is
#2411 [21:22] <Mydogmaxieboy> Can you help me if it says Internal Client error: java.net.Socketexception: Connection reset
#2412 [21:22] <Mydogmaxieboy> ?
#2413 [21:22] <Luke> ooo, now that sounds familiar
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#2415 [21:22] <Luke> do u know how to get to your .minecraft file?
#2416 [21:22] <Mydogmaxieboy> Yes
#2417 [21:23] <curmet> hey i got my game to work but now when i play it laggs so much what do i do
#2418 [21:23] <Mydogmaxieboy> Luke?
#2419 [21:23] <Luke> did u try deleting it, starting your minecraft and force updating it?
#2420 [21:23] <Mydogmaxieboy> And check ur graphics card
#2421 [21:23] <Mydogmaxieboy> Yes
#2422 [21:23] <curmet> where is the graphicks card
#2423 [21:24] <Mydogmaxieboy> what type of computer do u have?
#2424 [21:24] <curmet> asus
#2425 [21:24] <Luke> well idk what to tell u Mydogmaxieboy
#2426 [21:24] <Mydogmaxieboy> Google your model, followed by what graphics card
#2427 [21:24] <Luke> curmet, what kind of OS are u using?
#2428 [21:25] <Mydogmaxieboy> ie Asus Q321 grapics card
#2429 [21:25] <curmet> i dont know its my moms computer
#2430 [21:25] <Mydogmaxieboy> Is it windows 7?
#2431 [21:26] <curmet> yes it is
#2432 [21:26] <Luke> OS = Operating System
#2433 [21:26] <[JD]> dxdiag!
#2434 [21:26] <Mydogmaxieboy> Luke, any ideas 4 my problem?
#2435 [21:27] <Mydogmaxieboy> I think it is the Authentication server
#2436 [21:27] <Mydogmaxieboy> tI have completely reinstalled MC
#2437 [21:27] <curmet> what
#2438 [21:28] <Mydogmaxieboy> I can't connect to any minecraft servers and it sucks
#2439 [21:28] <Luke> idk Mydogmaxieboy, but i g2g
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#2441 [21:28] <Luke> sry
#2442 [21:28] <Mydogmaxieboy> K, bye
#2443 [21:28] <curmet> well thats better than it lagging like mine
#2444 [21:29] <Mydogmaxieboy> Meh, i hate singleplayer, can't stand it
#2445 [21:29] <lostdemouse> some forum says premium account activation can go up to 5 days o.o
#2446 [21:29] <zkxs> Mydogmaxieboy, what is the issue you are having?
#2447 [21:29] <lostdemouse> i cant wait that long....
#2448 [21:29] <Mydogmaxieboy> I can not connect to any minecraft servers
#2449 [21:30] <lostdemouse> apparently quite a few ppl are having that problem
#2450 [21:30] <curmet> does anybody know how to make the game not lag
#2451 [21:30] <Mydogmaxieboy> Oh, thanks god
#2452 [21:30] <lostdemouse> maybe its ur comouter problem
#2453 [21:30] <Mydogmaxieboy> So I havent ballsed something up
#2454 [21:30] <zkxs> Mydogmaxieboy, did minecraft used to work on your computer?
#2455 [21:30] <Mydogmaxieboy> If other people are having it....
#2456 [21:30] <lostdemouse> im not sure if the server prob is fixed yet though
#2457 [21:30] <Mydogmaxieboy> Yes, yesterday
#2458 [21:31] <zkxs> I see.
#2459 [21:31] <Mydogmaxieboy> I think it is to do with the Authentication servers
#2460 [21:31] <Mydogmaxieboy> Cause my friend is having the same problem
#2461 [21:31] <Mydogmaxieboy> But my other friend isnty
#2462 [21:31] <zkxs> Mydogmaxieboy, Could be... I'm not having any problem, but then again I am on that weird OS
#2463 [21:31] <lostdemouse> yea notch announced that problem quite awhile ago
#2464 [21:31] <Mydogmaxieboy> Did he say there was a fix?
#2465 [21:32] <lostdemouse> not too sure...
#2466 [21:32] <zkxs> Mydogmaxieboy, do you play in-browser or with the launcher?
#2467 [21:32] <Mydogmaxieboy> Can you link me? :)
#2468 [21:32] <Mydogmaxieboy> Launcher
#2469 [21:32] <lostdemouse> i think its on his twitter...maybe like a month ago...
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#2471 [21:33] <Mydogmaxieboy2> Sorry, browser crashed
#2472 [21:34] <zkxs> Mydogmaxieboy, can you connect to s.nerd.nu ?
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#2474 [21:34] <Mydogmaxieboy2> s.nerd.nu?
#2475 [21:34] <zkxs> yes, it is a minecraft server
#2476 [21:35] <Mydogmaxieboy2> Ill try
#2477 [21:35] <Mydogmaxieboy2> Same f***ing error!
#2478 [21:35] <zkxs> OK, now try connecting to 3545.no-ip.org
#2479 [21:36] <Mydogmaxieboy2> Im in
#2480 [21:36] <lostdemouse> 0.0
#2481 [21:36] <Scott> There are networking issues in New Zealand right now.
#2482 [21:36] <Scott> It could be related.
#2483 [21:37] <Mydogmaxieboy2> Maybe
#2484 [21:37] <Mydogmaxieboy2> I live in new Zealand
#2485 [21:37] <zkxs> he was able to connect to my test server with authentication turned off, so it must be that
#2486 [21:38] <Mydogmaxieboy2> Thanks all
#2487 [21:38] <Mydogmaxieboy2> That has been a damn site more helpful than the other airheaded 'techies' i have contacted
#2488 [21:39] <zkxs> irc is hardcore
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#2492 [21:49] <aaronk> I need some help please
#2493 [21:50] <aaronk> I bought and paid for my minecraft, have been playing it for months, and now its telling me that my account is not premium
#2494 [21:50] <aaronk> Does anyone know who i should contact about this?
#2495 [21:50] <Mydogmaxieboy2> Notch
#2496 [21:50] <aaronk> how?
#2497 [21:51] <Mydogmaxieboy2> Uhh, notch@gmail.com :D
#2498 [21:51] <Mydogmaxieboy2> idk
#2499 [21:51] <Mydogmaxieboy2> Try looking on the website
#2500 [21:53] <zkxs> aaronk, support@mojang.com
#2501 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Just so you know, support@mojang.com is not a good place to get support rom
#2502 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> from*
#2503 [21:55] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine, I can't wait to turn on my computer next week :)
#2504 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> They're constantly backed up, with at least 50K emails in backlog
#2505 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> aaronk - Did you purchase minecraft from minecraft.net?
#2506 [21:55] * GreyVulpine nods at TheNytangel
#2506 [21:56] <TheNytangel> Bob...
#2507 [21:56] <zkxs> TheNytangel, next week? Did it not work the first time around?
#2508 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> He's still got parts coming in
#2509 [21:56] <TheNytangel> Damnit, I forgot what I was going to do... stupid short term memory loss again >:(
#2510 [21:56] <zkxs> oh, I figured something was DOA
#2511 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> Has everything but the uh.. video card and dvi cable?
#2512 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> He hasn't had a chance to power it on yet. no vid card
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#2514 [21:57] <aaronk> http://www.minecraft.net/support/ is very helpful
#2515 [21:57] <TheNytangel> I'll get the DVI cable from my dad's house
#2516 [21:57] * GreyVulpine ahs and nods
#2516 [21:57] * GreyVulpine goes back to mw3
#2516 [21:57] <TheNytangel> I go next weekend anyways, what's 3 more days without it? :P
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#2518 [21:59] <Pickles> I've downloaded the game but I can't get it running and the file isn't on my computer anywhere.
#2519 [21:59] <TheNytangel> O.o
#2520 [21:59] <TheNytangel> Disasburate...
#2521 [21:59] <zkxs> TheNytangel, after I built mine I found that I got a faulty graphics card, and I had to wait for them to ship me a working one D:
#2522 [22:00] <TheNytangel> zkxs, go to urbandictionary.com and look up disasburate :P
#2523 [22:00] <Pickles> How do I install the game?
#2524 [22:00] <zkxs> disasburate isn't defined yet.
#2525 [22:01] <zkxs> Pickles, do you use the launcher or do you play in-browser?
#2526 [22:01] <TheNytangel> zkxs, disasterbate*
#2527 [22:01] <TheNytangel> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Disasterbate&defid=4817564
#2528 [22:02] <zkxs> lol
#2529 [22:02] <Pickles> zkxs: I can't find the friggin thing at all. I bought the game but I can't find a way to play it...
#2530 [22:03] <TheNytangel> !client
#2531 [22:03] <Pickles> zkxs: I was told I need to install it, via icon on my desktop but it's not there.
#2532 [22:03] <TheNytangel> Pickles, click one of the links above
#2533 [22:04] <zkxs> the disasturbate video is completely unrelated
#2534 [22:05] <zkxs> 'I love coats' <-- wth!?
#2535 [22:06] <Pickles> ......
#2536 [22:06] <Pickles> Bad video card drivers.....
#2537 [22:07] <zkxs> Pickles, what operating system do you use?
#2538 [22:07] <Pickles> Windows vista.
#2539 [22:07] <zkxs> ??> Pickles win/dxdiag
#2540 [22:07] <VoxelHead> Pickles: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2541 [22:07] <VoxelHead> Pickles: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
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#2543 [22:08] <Pickles> VoxelHead: You lost me. sorry.
#2544 [22:09] <zkxs> Pickles, where are you lost?
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#2546 [22:09] <Pickles> the very first thing. DX
#2547 [22:09] <zkxs> ?? win/key
#2548 [22:09] <VoxelHead> win/key: Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2549 [22:09] <Pickles> Yes.
#2550 [22:10] <zkxs> Pickles, do you understand now?
#2551 [22:11] <Pickles> aaaaah
#2552 [22:14] <zkxs> Pickles, if you don't understand or need help with any part of VoxelHead's instructions, just tell someone.
#2553 [22:15] <Pickles> No it helps I just hate my computer because it doesn't like opening windows.
#2554 [22:15] <zkxs> Is it a really slow computer?
#2555 [22:15] <Pickles> you gotta right click them on a esktop or file and then press open, then right click it again and press run or start, depending.
#2556 [22:15] <Pickles> It's not at all slow.
#2557 [22:15] <zkxs> ... have you considered trying to fix that issue?
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#2559 [22:16] <zkxs> Because that isn't normal, and would really hack me off if it happened on my PC
#2560 [22:17] <Pickles> I don't know how.
#2561 [22:17] <Pickles> I'm a tech tard when it comes to stuff like that.
#2562 [22:18] <zkxs> well, this isn't the place for fixing windows. Lets focus on your minecraft issue. how are you coming with the dxdiag?
#2563 [22:19] <Pickles> that's the thing.
#2564 [22:19] <Pickles> it's not opening.
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#2566 [22:20] <zkxs> can you open things from you start menu?
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#2568 [22:20] <zkxs> *your
#2569 [22:20] <Pickles> Yes.
#2570 [22:20] <zkxs> try searching for and opening Command Prompt
#2571 [22:21] <Pickles> Just type command prompt in the start search?
#2572 [22:21] <zkxs> yes
#2573 [22:21] <zkxs> does anything come up?
#2574 [22:22] <Pickles> yup
#2575 [22:22] <Pickles> a black box.
#2576 [22:22] <zkxs> good
#2577 [22:22] <zkxs> whatever you type in this box is guaranteed to look hardcore. type 'dxdiag' and press enter. (don't type the quotes)
#2578 [22:23] <zkxs> tell me if it works/doesn't work
#2579 [22:24] <Pickles> asks if I want to DxDiag to check if the rivers are digitally signed.
#2580 [22:24] <Pickles> drivers*
#2581 [22:24] <zkxs> follow vox's instructions
#2582 [22:24] <zkxs> ??> Pickles win/dxdiag
#2583 [22:25] <VoxelHead> Pickles: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2584 [22:25] <VoxelHead> Pickles: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#2585 [22:25] <zkxs> you can skip to after the 'press enter' step
#2586 [22:26] <Pickles> and now we wait...
#2587 [22:27] <zkxs> you really ought to have that looked at
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#2589 [22:27] <zkxs> (not my me though)
#2590 [22:27] <zkxs> *by
#2591 [22:27] <ehxor> hi
#2592 [22:27] <zkxs> hello
#2593 [22:28] <ehxor> i'm trying to launch the 1.9 prerelease in linux
#2594 [22:28] <ehxor> but I get: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError
#2595 [22:28] <zkxs> check your case
#2596 [22:28] <zkxs> oh, wait... that doesn't sound like a case sensitivity issue
#2597 [22:29] <zkxs> can you paste the entire error to pastebin?
#2598 [22:29] <ehxor> sure. hold on
#2599 [22:29] <zkxs> it is nice to get a power-user here
#2600 [22:29] <Silent_Samurai> !check 138.217.133.114
#2601 [22:30] <ehxor> http://pastebin.com/tz0TSERg
#2602 [22:31] <zkxs> ehxor, i have a couple ideas of what it could be
#2603 [22:31] <zkxs> are you launching the launcher and not the 1.9 jar file?
#2604 [22:32] <ehxor> i have no idea
#2605 [22:32] <ehxor> so, this is likely the issue :)
#2606 [22:32] <zkxs> how did you install 1.9?
#2607 [22:33] <Pickles> So...paste the link here?
#2608 [22:33] <ehxor> got it from the "right here" link on this forum post
#2609 [22:33] <ehxor> http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/309-19-pre-release-6-is-out/
#2610 [22:33] <zkxs> aha, i see what is wrong
#2611 [22:33] <zkxs> ?? linux/client
#2612 [22:33] <VoxelHead> linux/client: http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
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#2614 [22:34] <zkxs> ehxor, Download and launch that ^
#2615 [22:34] <zkxs> that will install 1.8.1, after which we will patch it to 1.9
#2616 [22:34] <ehxor> ahhhh
#2617 [22:34] <ehxor> ok
#2618 [22:34] <Pickles> zkxs: Past the link here?
#2619 [22:35] <zkxs> Pickles, yes
#2620 [22:35] <ehxor> zkxs: downloaded
#2621 [22:35] <zkxs> Pickles, it doesn't contain anything sensitive
#2622 [22:35] <monkey> after purchsing, cannot log in. says not premium
#2623 [22:35] <Pickles> http://pastebin.com/XadkQnSD
#2624 [22:35] <zkxs> ehxor, you can launch it with: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2625 [22:36] <ehxor> k, done.
#2626 [22:36] <zkxs> Pickles, 32 or 64 bit?
#2627 [22:37] <zkxs> ehxor, did it launch properly?
#2628 [22:37] <Pickles> 32
#2629 [22:37] <zkxs> ??> monkey payment
#2630 [22:37] <VoxelHead> monkey: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#2631 [22:37] <VoxelHead> monkey: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://minecraft.net/support
#2632 [22:37] <ehxor> yeah, but still stays 'beta 1.8'. so i need to patch?
#2633 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> 1.8 or 1.8.1?
#2634 [22:38] <zkxs> ehxor, yes
#2635 [22:38] <zkxs> ehxor, open ~/.minecraft
#2636 [22:38] <ehxor> k
#2637 [22:38] <zkxs> Pickles, download and run this to update your graphics drivers: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/10-2_legacy_vista32-64_dd_ccc.exe
#2638 [22:38] <monkey> thanks :D
#2639 [22:39] <zkxs> monkey, no problem
#2640 [22:39] <Scott> I forgot what Windows Vista looked like.
#2641 [22:39] <Pickles> zkxs: And what will this do?
#2642 [22:39] <ehxor> zkxs: (guessing) then swap the 1.9 jar for the ~/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar ?
#2643 [22:39] <zkxs> ehxor, you got it!
#2644 [22:40] <zkxs> Pickles, this will hopefully fix minecraft by updating the drivers for your video card
#2645 [22:40] <zkxs> updating things is good
#2646 [22:40] <Pickles> okay.
#2647 [22:41] <zkxs> ehxor, it is great to work with someone who knows there way around a computer
#2648 [22:41] <zkxs> *their
#2649 [22:41] <ehxor> zkxs: hooray! you're a saint. thank you very much, may your weekend be free from creepers
#2650 [22:41] <ehxor> haha
#2651 [22:41] <zkxs> lol, no problem
#2652 [22:42] <zkxs> you gotta love how minecraft.jar and minecraft.jar have the exact same filenames but do completely different things
#2653 [22:43] <ehxor> yes, fascinating design decision there
#2654 [22:44] <zkxs> Pickles, how goes it?
#2655 [22:45] <Pickles> 'm at the installing part.
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#2658 [22:46] <TheNytangel> I feel like my eyes are going to fall out...
#2659 [22:47] <Pickles> zkxs: Oh look, a window asking m what I want to do.
#2660 [22:47] <zkxs> zkxs, what options does it give you?
#2661 [22:47] <Pickles> install or uninstall.
#2662 [22:48] <zkxs> install
#2663 [22:48] <Pickles> but I have a good guess
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#2665 [22:49] <Pickles> no there's analyze, customize, install, finished.
#2666 [22:49] <Pickles> now*
#2667 [22:49] <zkxs> is one reccomended?
#2668 [22:49] <zkxs> and what has it done so far?
#2669 [22:50] <Pickles> in a box it sais select express or custom install then press next.
#2670 [22:50] <zkxs> express
#2671 [22:50] <zkxs> custom generally isn't the choice you want
#2672 [22:51] <Pickles> btw thanks alo for this.
#2673 [22:51] <Pickles> alot*
#2674 [22:51] <zkxs> np. lets see if it works
#2675 [22:52] <zkxs> chances are it'll want you to reboot
#2676 [22:52] <Pickles> That's alright
#2677 [22:54] <Pickles> Would like to instal that device software?
#2678 [22:54] <zkxs> yes
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#2688 [23:18] <Pickles> ugh
#2689 [23:18] <zkxs> did it work?
#2690 [23:18] <Pickles> zkxs: Back and how do I get every back to normal size?
#2691 [23:19] <zkxs> if you right click on your desktop is there a 'properties' option? if so, click it
#2692 [23:22] <zkxs> Pickles, this explains it: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Change-screen-resolution
#2693 [23:22] <Pickles> um there is no more properties...
#2694 [23:23] <zkxs> ^
#2695 [23:24] <zkxs> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Change-screen-resolution
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#2698 [23:25] <gideon802> umm help
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#2702 [23:25] <zkxs> umm, what is your problem gideon802?
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#2704 [23:26] <gideon802> how do i fix 1000 chickens witrh singleplayer commands
#2705 [23:26] <zkxs> ??> gideon802 mods
#2706 [23:26] <VoxelHead> gideon802: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers, as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2707 [23:26] <VoxelHead> gideon802: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2708 [23:28] <zkxs> Pickles, how is it going?
#2709 [23:29] <zkxs> the changed resolution is a good sign that the driver updated successfully. Perhaps minecraft will work for you now.
#2710 [23:29] <Pickles> zkxs: not so good
#2711 [23:30] <Pickles> damn thing ain't opening.
#2712 [23:30] <zkxs> did you follow the link I gave you?
#2713 [23:30] <Pickles> yup
#2714 [23:31] <Pickles> well the instalation was complete.
#2715 [23:31] <Pickles> now I ust need to change the resolution.
#2716 [23:31] <zkxs> are things too big or too small?
#2717 [23:31] <Pickles> too friggin huge.
#2718 [23:31] <TheNytangel> GUI scale to auto...
#2719 [23:31] <TheNytangel> Or whatever it's called
#2720 [23:31] <Pickles> ???
#2721 [23:31] <zkxs> TheNytangel, that isn't the issue
#2722 [23:31] <zkxs> it is his Windows resolution that is off.
#2723 [23:32] <TheNytangel> And I don't read whole conversations, just the last message
#2724 [23:32] <zkxs> lol
#2725 [23:33] <zkxs> Pickles, is control panel opening?
#2726 [23:33] <Pickles> it goes to personalization
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#2728 [23:33] <Pickles> but when I click display, nuthn happens
#2729 [23:34] <Pickles> just the loading ring
#2730 [23:34] <Pickles> then it dissappears.
#2731 [23:34] <Pickles> nuthin happens
#2732 [23:34] <Pickles> and I tried minecraft
#2733 [23:35] <zkxs> bring up command prompt again
#2734 [23:36] <Pickles> still sais bad video card drivers
#2735 [23:36] <zkxs> then your card is too old, that is the most recent driver I gave you. lets try fixing the resolution. open command prompt again
#2736 [23:37] <Pickles> ok.
#2737 [23:37] <Pickles> This computer is over 4 yrs old btw.
#2738 [23:37] <zkxs> type the command 'control color'
#2739 [23:37] <Thrae> Note: ATI installers like to not install the graphics driver, just updating other software. I would double-check the driver was actually updated.
#2740 [23:38] <zkxs> I suppose I could teamviewer in
#2741 [23:38] <zkxs> Pickles, did the 'control color' command do anything?
#2742 [23:38] <Thrae> I think it has something to do with OEM driver packages
#2743 [23:38] <Pickles> not really
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#2745 [23:39] <zkxs> well, it is difficult to do anything in a GUI centered OS without the ability to use GUIs
#2746 [23:40] <zkxs> Thrae, I have a feeling the driver updated 'cause it screwed up his resolution
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#2748 [23:41] <Thrae> zkxs: Sometimes to the installer will uninstall the driver then *fail* to install the new one, leaving you with generic Windows drivers. Especially happens if you uninstall it beforehand.
#2749 [23:41] <zkxs> Pickles, you didn't uninstall anything, did you?
#2750 [23:42] <Pickles> please don't tell me I wasted 20 bucks and a few hours of my life...
#2751 [23:42] <Thrae> I would say in about 20% of cases giving people the Legacy ATI drivers here (the 10.2 Catalyst package), problems like this happen
#2752 [23:42] <Pickles> $20*
#2753 [23:42] <zkxs> Pickles, do you want me to try remoting into your computer to try and fix things?
#2754 [23:43] <zkxs> the GUI issue you have is messing with me
#2755 [23:43] <Pickles> um sure.
#2756 [23:44] <zkxs> Pickles, download and run this. PM me the id and password. http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewerQS_en.exe
#2757 [23:45] <zkxs> you can pm me with the chat command /msg zkxs your message goes here
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#2759 [23:49] <|Kiikun|> narf.
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#2761 [23:53] <skippydippy> hello
#2762 [23:54] <Pickles> hmm
#2763 [23:54] <Pickles> for some reason it's not running it...
#2764 [23:54] <zkxs> of course
#2765 [23:54] <Pickles> lol
#2766 [23:54] <zkxs> are you on an admin account?
#2767 [23:54] <Pickles> yes.
#2768 [23:54] <zkxs> what antivirus do you have?
#2769 [23:55] <Pickles> Well like I said, this in my brothers old computer so he failed to get one before it was too late...
#2770 [23:55] <skippydippy> i was wondering if someone could help . i just bought minecraft for my son and when i run it the game is so laggy you cant even hit a pig once ... also when i open the inventory it crashed my computer several times .. im on a laptop .. does anyone have any ideas to help me please ?
#2771 [23:56] <zkxs> Pickles, so you haven't had any antivirus for the past 4 years?
#2772 [23:56] <Pickles> Macaffe I think.
#2773 [23:56] <Pickles> but yeah pretty much.
#2774 [23:56] <zkxs> -.-
#2775 [23:56] <Pickles> Blame my bro.
#2776 [23:57] <zkxs> you realize there is free antivirus out there?
#2777 [23:57] <zkxs> AVG free is quite nice, in my opinion
#2778 [23:57] <Pickles> yes like spybot search and destroy but eh.
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#2780 [23:58] <zkxs> I have a strange feeling the lack of working windows might be somehow related to the fact your Vista hasn't had AV for years
#2781 [23:58] <Inzane> my minecraft says i dont have enough memory minnimum how do i fix it
#2782 [23:58] <Pickles> I get that feelng too. lol
#2783 [23:59] <zkxs> Pickles, have you considered having someone reinstall your OS?
#2784 [23:59] <|Kiikun|> ??<< mcedit